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From: hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch)
Subject: Re: Oriole News
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Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:40:00 GMT

In article <92229.111004DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>Just a few rumors, notes and news fron the Sunday papers:
> 
>Aug. 24 (Cal's birthday) is rumored to be the O's target date to sign
>Cal and announce it at a home game.  The last time the Orioles signed
>Cal to a long-term contract he hit 7 HRs in the next 17 games.

At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.  The thought of Cal playing for
the Dodgers (shudder), the Mets (cringe), or the Blue Jays (AAAARRRRGGGGHHH!!)
is not something I enjoy...

> 
>Chris Hoiles has hit .545 in 3 games at AA last week, catching 4 innings
>and DHing in the other games.  Hoiles will return sometime this week.

Great!  Tackett has really been sucking wind lately, and Parent hasn't been
much either.  Tackett's a quality defensive catcher, but he's not going to
hit a lot at the big league level.

I wonder if some of Sutcliffe's problems could be traced to the injury of
Hoiles.  I base this on some statements Rick made to the media earlier this
year about how much he enjoyed throwing to Hoiles; and right after Hoiles
went down, Sutcliffe started struggling mightily.  

>The Orioles will probably leave both Mark McLemore and Billy Ripken off their
>protected list.  Mclemore mat be selected by the Marlins, since Cookie Rojas
>was high on him back in California.  Rojas is advising the Marlins.

If the Orioles blow one of their protected spots on Bill 'Couldn't hit water
if he fell out of a boat' Ripken, I'll be VERY upset.  I can't see McLemore
going either, I think he's 28 or 29 years old.  I'd say the Orioles' 15-man
protected list going into the first round would be something like

C. Ripken, Anderson, Devereaux, G. Davis, Milligan, Gomez, Hoiles, Mussina
McDonald, Rhodes, Olson, Mills, Manny Alexander, Ricky Guttierez, and 
Brad Pennington

This assumes, of course, that Cal signs before the expansion draft--if he 
doesn't, protect Segui in addition...

Comments welcome on the O's protected list for the expansion draft!!

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From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Support-Neutral W/L Report -- NL
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:44:25 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Aug13.160408.1943@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.180102.29366@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> mjw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Michael Wolverton) writes:


>>                  NL Support-Neutral Win/Loss Report


>>Luckiest 10 NL Starters (ranked by (W - E(W)) + (E(L) - L)):

>>Pitcher       Team    E(W)  E(L)    W  L   Diff.
------------------------------------------------
>>Glavine        ATL   11.6   7.0    17  3    9.4
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Unluckiest 10 NL Starters (ranked by (W - E(W)) + (E(L) - L)):

>>Pitcher       Team    E(W)  E(L)    W  L   Diff.
------------------------------------------------
>>Abbott         PHI    4.3   7.8     1 13   -8.5
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
   
>   If this doesn't prove that it's better to be lucky than good,
>   I don't know what will! Just imagine lucking out to back-to-back
>   Cy Youngs. This guy oughta play the lottery!!!

Actually, this shows that it's best to be lucky AND good...


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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Mets Protected list
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:49:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boo!  

In <92233.192923JPIERCE@MIAMIU.BITNET> Jeff Pierce <JPIERCE@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:

>Anyone care to speculate as to who will be the first Met drafted?  I
>notice that neither Bobby Jones or Tito Navarro are showing up on any
>of the possible protected lists.  Does this mean that they're not
>eligible for the draft?  The last time I looked, the Mets were planning
>to convert Navarro into a second baseman, and they don't really have
>anyone else (unless Donnells converts) to play there in the near future.
> 
Well, Bobby Jones was only drafted in 1991, so he is automatically protected.
On the other hand, Tito Navarro has been injured all year, and I'm pretty
sure the Mets will leave him unprotected in the belief that the expansion
teams are unlikely to risk a pick on him.

I suspect the Mets will probably lose one or two minor league pitchers
and possibly a halfway decent role player like Daryl Boston or Mackey
Sasser.  Realistically, though, there just isn't all that much in the
system to lose right now.

Greg 
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From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: MLB Standings and Scores for Wed, Aug 12th, 1992
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:27:38 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug12.172530.16230@cs.cornell.edu>, tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.160748.12356@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
> >In article <16ba0cINNoof@agate.berkeley.edu> jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez) writes:
> >>        MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STANDINGS FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1992
> >>Boston Red Sox        52    60    .464  13.5      4-6    Lost 3  35-24  17-36
> >>Cleveland Indians     51    62    .451  15.0     z7-3     Won 2  28-30  23-32
> >>New York Yankees      51    62    .451  15.0      3-7    Lost 2  27-28  24-34
> >>
> >This is getting more depressing by the day.  A game and a half out of the
> >cellar!?!  AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
> 
> I heard that eight games is the farthest below .500 that the Sox have
> been in a Long Time.
> 
> I look forward to that juicy draft pick! <sigh>

I loved the comment Dick Lutsk made on Sox Talk (radio call-in show)
after last night's "game".  He said that once again the Sox lineup had
demonstrated it's ineptitude, making 3 AAA pitchers look like Cy Young.
There was a similar article in the Globe mumbling about how Dave Otto
of the 6.48 ERA was able to hold the Sox to one run in 6 innings.  Sigh...

> Only thing left to root for is Clemens' quest for another Cy.

You got that right.  It's gotten to the point where I only bother to watch
the Fortune 500 if Clemens is pitching or I'm terminally bored (or masochistic).

> Cheers,
> -Valentine
> -- 
> Ob. woof: Clemens is the best pitcher ever!	tedward@cs.cornell.edu

-- 

Dan S.
From: 6669030@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Anyone know this guy?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:21:19 GMT

He played on and off for the SF Giants.  Bounced back and forth 'tween
Phoenix mostly.  Like his last name implies....he was none too spectacular...
hee hee hee....


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From: wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin)
Subject: Village Voice Trivia Quiz  31-40
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:22:40 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

The following appeared in the August 18, 1992 issue
of the Village Voice.

"Can't Anybody Here Take This Quiz?"

Baseball ... the perfect game, the game of men at
work and of fathers playing catch with sons on a
field of dreams in the glory of their times.  We
enter the cathedral of baseball as supplicants --
but as American supplicants, in that most American
cathedral of democratic sancity that is uniquely
American and democratic, a Game of Ball being played
by noble Men who are in fact Boys, themselves
playing on infinite American cornfields of perfect
democratic geometry.  Slowly the Game proceeds,
slowly, for we are thinking.  It is in this spirit
that we present the following quiz by Dan Gutman, 
author of Baseball Babylon.  Rhymes, timeless rhymes.


The following are questions 31 thru 40 out of 40.

31. Why was there a standing ovation in Yankee
    Stadium in the bottom of the fourth inning
    on July 30, 1990?

32. Who said, "It might be good if we keep losing,
    because it's more likely Streinbrenner will
    fly in, and that increases the possibility 
    that the plane will crash?"

33. Which player was found quilty of racketeering,
    conspiracy to commit racketeering, loan-sharking,
    and possession of cocaine with intent to  
    distribute?

34. In 1985, which player was stopped by police with
    $70,000 worth of cocaine, heroin, Quaaludes, 140
    glassine envelopes, drug paraphernalia, and a
    loaded .22 Derringer handgun in his car?

35. Which player pulled a gun on a cook in a Cincinnati
    sandwich shop in 1961.

36. Which player held his wife hostage with a shotgun
    in 1985, and didn't surrender until a SWAT team
    lobbed tear gas canisters through the window of
    his apartment?

37. Which player died with a loaded Luger and a brown
    paper bag containing $1 million in negotiable
    securities by his hospital bed?

38. Who explained the small number of black baseball
    executives by pointing out that black people can't
    swim well?

39. What player was LIFE magazine describing when they
    wrote in a 1939 profile:  "Instead of olive oil or
    smelly bear grease he keeps his hair slick with
    water.  He never reeks of garlic and prefers chicken
    chow mein to spaghetti?"

40. Why do umpires all wear black underwear?


The answers will be posted in a week.
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Save the Giants
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:18:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.210950.29745@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:

>Well, if you bought shares of GIANTS stock back in 1976 at $8 per share,
>you could now sell them for $115 a share.  A 12% return per year. Not bad.
>I can live with out dividends if the value of the stock goes up by 12%
>each year.

The problem is, if you own 1% of the team, unlike Bob Lurie, you cannot
sell the team to St. Petersburg (or some other city) that is dying to get
baseball.  If you own the entire team, you can move it at your whim, but it
is pretty hard to move 1% of the team.  The power of the franchise owner is
the reason why Lurie is making a big profit in selling the team.  If you have
essentially no power in how the team will be run, your stocks will be worth
a lot less.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: brian@meaddata.com (Brian Curran)
Subject: Re: Chicago Schedule Labor Day Weekend?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:54:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.214046.7464@odin.corp.sgi.com>, rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares) writes:
|> Can someone post the baseball schedule in Chicago for Labor Day
|> weekend?  Also, will the Bears be in town? 

Cubs are at home against San Diego Friday, Saturday, and Sunday (all day
games).  White Sox are on the road.  Dunno about the Bears.
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Say it's so! Baseball in Tampa Bay!!!
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:28:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.003807.4203@pony.Ingres.COM> brucek@Ingres.COM (Bruce Kleinman) writes:
>The irony of course is that the San Jose Giants will almost certainly
>cease to be anyway -- the Tampa Bay Giants will no doubt transfer their
>AAA affiliation to someplace closer to their new home.

(1) The San Jose Giants are a single-A affiliate of the Giants, not a AAA.

(2) The San Jose minor league team existed before the affiliation with the
Giants, and will continue to exist after the affiliation with the Giants.

(3) According to comments from the owner of the San Jose minor league team,
the new agreement between the majors and the minors guarantees that all the
of the teams in the California League will have major league affiliations.

The contract between the San Jose Giants and the major league Giants runs
through next year.  I'm hoping that if they don't re-sign with the Giants,
that they'll change the name of the minor league team back to the Bees.  I
strongly prefer distinctive minor league team names.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com






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From: O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Doug Miller)
Subject: Re: Who am I?
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:13:55 GMT

Let me make it clearer. A former pro basketball player and a former pro
football players brother were also born in this small town.
From: larry@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Re: Emotional Attachment to Teams
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:46:00 GMT
Reply-To: larry@abby.chem.ucla.edu
Organization: Department of Chemistry, UCLA

>In article <1992Aug13.192643.801973@locus.com>, aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui) writes:
>
>>However, I still root for the same team, even though the players have
>>changed.  I find this irrational because I have no real reason to root
>>for them.  So I would like to ask the net this question to any hardcore
>>fans of any team out there:  Would you root for your team, even if the
>>entire personnel of that team changed, just because it's your team?
>>
>>For example, let's say you are a New York Met fan.  You just heard it
>>was announced that the entire New York Met team was traded for the
>>entire Boston Red Sox team.  If you were going to a game that day,
>>would you root for the ex-Boston guys just because they were wearing
>>Met uniforms?
>
  This is an interesting question.  I can remember when the brain
trust in Cincinnati saw fit to start breaking up the Big Red Machine.
Not a pleasant thing, I must tell you.  I almost forgave them for
letting Charlie Hustle go, but when they started giving away the
rest of the team I just stopped following any team for a couple of
years.  (From about 80-83)
  I am also now experiencing this phenomenon in football.  Ever
since the Bengals let Bruce Coslet go, they haven't been the same
while the Jets (Coslet's new home) are quite fun to watch.  
I am sorely tempted to start rooting for the Jets full time, but
the allegiance to the Bengals is dying hard. 
(Sorry about the football anecdote...)

Lec Luthor
Criminal Genius Extraordinaire

Colorado Rockies Promotion #2:
Buy one ticket, get one free.
Buy two tickets, you pitch an inning.

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From: alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: What happens if????
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:06:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.233851.27808@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.173652.22078@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug20.125800.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>
>>>This has indeed happened before and it was resolved, I believe, by a 
>>>chili cook off among the respective firstbasemen on the three teams...
>
>>So who makes the best chili, Mark McGwire, Kent Hrbek, or Frank Thomas?
>
>Judging from the size of his appetite, I'd think that Hrbek would win that
>one.
>
>===============================================================================
>GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
>===============================================================================
>Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)

Size of his appetite??

Try the size of his waist!!

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu

TWINS 1992--Just win (a game) baby!!


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From: zappala@Xerox.com (Daniel Zappala)
Subject: Kevin Gross
Reply-To: zappala@Xerox.com (Daniel Zappala)
Organization: Xerox PARC
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:58:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.182129.4870@u.washington.edu>, sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith) writes:
> 
>     THE NATIONAL LEAGUE GAME SCORE REPORT 
>     PART TWO: Notable Games of past week (8/04-8/10) and season so far
> 
> Note: WBH=Wild pitches + Balks + Hit Batsmen
> 
> The best and worst starts this season:
>
> Pitcher Team Date Opponent   GS  IP  H  R ER BB SO WBH Result
> Gross    LA  5/12  @ MON     93   9  3  0  0  0 13  1  W 2-0

Number 1!

> The toughest losses this season:
>
> Pitcher Team Date Opponent GS  IP  H  R ER BB SO WBH Result Pitcher  GS
> Gross    LA  5/18  v CHI   78   7  3  1  1  1 12  0   0-3   Castillo 69

Number 1 again!


Add that to his no-hitter yesterday, and Gross owns the two best starts of the
season and the toughest loss this season.

This guy is a good pitcher, who shows flashes of brilliance, and is still
learning to pitch, rather than throw.  He's also suffered from lack of 
offense, like every other Dodger pitcher this year.


It's a shame Gross didn't develop earlier in his career, because he has
lots of potential and a great arm.  I remember talking to Al Downing on
his talk show, and he thought he was a great purchase last year.

Here's to continued improvement...


Daniel
From: alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Left-Handed Knuckleballers??
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:16:22 GMT
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN

In article <1992Aug19.202125.1@ssurf.ucsd.edu> rsk@ssurf.ucsd.edu writes:
>   This may be a strange question, but during a recent discussion about
>Tim Wakefield and his knuckleball, a friend of mine mentioned that he used
>to play in a league with a left-handed knuckleball pitcher!  Does anyone
>know whether or not there has ever been a left-handed knuckleballer at
>the major league level?  Thanks!
>
>Ron Kaufmann

The only one I know of is Wilbur Wood, who played for the White Sox in the 1970s

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cito Gaston- Mediocre manager??
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:13:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcso.10010666
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In rec.sport.baseball, dave@silver.sni.ca (Dave Till) writes:

> The Jays had a good record with Jimy Williams managing.  But Jimy One-M's
> record is not as good as Cito's.  Williams won over 90 games only once;
> Cito has done it twice.  (I count 1989 as "over 90", since they were
> 12-24 when he took over, and they won 77 the rest of the way.)

So in other words, they each did it once, and your giving Cito the benefit of
the doubt on an incomplete season.  Hardly a convincing argument - I'd prefer
to see the career records, rather than "number of 90 win seasons" as a metric.
Not that I'm doubtin Cito is better than Jimy; I haven't paid enough attention
to really notice.

> As for the Jays' "awesome talent":  the team is good, but they aren't
> exactly the '75 Reds or the '84 Tigers.

Hey, man, try picking some examples from this decade - my children weren't born
in the 70's or 80's (OK, so they're not yet born in the 90's - at least none
that I know about...)

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From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: Re: Propse new team for Bay Area fans to root for
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 17:45:02 GMT


frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown) writes:

>S.F. loses the Giants.....

>	Eh, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, eh,HOOHOOHOOHOOHOOO
>HOO, heeeeeeeeheheheheheheheeeee,

>	That's OK, all you SF Giant fans can see your team anytime
>at the nearest N.L. ballpark! Only 400 miles south! <snicker> Or maybe
><chortle> you can <mmph> just adopt the <guffaw> DODGERS as your new
>team <Oh, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH>

>		whimper, snort

>			frisbee

What? You mean there's an NL team in Los Angeles? Dodgers? I don't
think I've heard of them ... oh, wait a minute. Yeah. You mean those
guys in the basement. Thanks but no thanks. I think I'll choose a
team with some talent to root for.

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From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Box scores Braves-Pirates 4 game series
Keywords: Braves, Pirates, scores
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:34:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvaac.1992Aug20.193414.14424
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

In article <1992Aug19.131130.9260@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, molly@uga.edu writes:
|> 
|> I am looking for the scores between Giants and Braves on July 1, 1992, July 31,
|> 1992 and August 1, 1992. Could someone e-mail or post them.  Thanks.

I knew there was some reason I was saving all those USA Baseball Weeklys.

7/1   Jints 2  Braves 1 (WP Black, LP Avery)
7/31  Jints 4  Braves 3 (WP Jackson, LP Merker)
8/1   Braves 5  Jints 3 (WP Smoltz, LP Black)

Just out of curiosity, what are you doing with month old scores>

--->Paul, who's only sorry not to be able to report more SF losses

PS to Molly: I tried to e-mail this to you, but it bounced.
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