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From: jim@neb (Jim Hood)
Subject: Atari binaries postings.  A comment...
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:39:35 GMT

phbill@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>jim@neb (Jim Hood) writes:
>
>> Is there a reason that we here in the atari 8-bit newsgroup are
>> NOT doing this on a regular basis and in a defined area??
>> 
>
>Here're the reasons >I< can think of:
>
>1) would take up too much space

3 files a month???  I don't think so.
Then comp.binaries.ibm.pc, comp.binaires.pictures (etc) would not exist.

>2) we have the atari archives

To which not everyone has access.  EVEN VIA MAIL.  I mailed 3 days
ago, and still have not recieved a reply....

>3) would everybody ALWAYS get EVERY file posted?  
>   I ALWAYS read EVERY message posted... but I haven't sent for EVERY
>   archive file..  and simply posting them ALL OVER the world wouldn't 
>   be very sane when anyone with UseNet/uucp access can just mail for 
>   them...

I am not talking about posting all of atari.archive here.  I mean an
area LIKE comp.binaries.ibm.pc where an ocasional file comes by.

Oh well.  As I can see, no one here seems interested in exchanging
binaries via usenet news.  I think that is too bad.  If there was a 
group for the exchange of binaries, then those intersted could
participate (and it might even increase the stuff availaible at the
archives [because people would copy it to the archive], and those not
interested woulden't even have to look at the news group.

-jim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: E71 and the RVERTER
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:58:57 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <92246.012719AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu>, <AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>  um...simple question...how does one do e71 with the rverter?
> none of my vt100 terminals work with it unless its 8bit..
> however...bobterm does vt52Odd which does e71 just fine...when
> using the rverter?  so does bobterm emulate all this and everything
> else uses the 850 tables?
> Andrew

     Well, it took me a while to find the right driver to use my SX212
in direct connect and do E71. When I go home tonight I try to check. (I
think it was the one by Trent Dudley. I got it with that term80 program,
I think.)

Later.......

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From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: T:Edit Docs. ver.2.0
Summary: New docs. for T:Edit
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:53:39 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations


Page # 001
 
    
          TEDIT - A Text Editor
    
    Byran P. Shappel (c) 1986 ANALOG Computing
    doc.ver.2.0 by Bill Kendrick, 1992
    
         Here's most of what can be done with this pbPgram.  It lacks
    block cut/paste/copy/delete and the ability to change the left margin
    to 0.  At least nobody seems to know how (yet).
    
    (NOTE: I have a 1200xl and can use the [Func] keys, so I added their
    uses)
         Unlike doc.ver.1.5, 2.0 is catagorized by key commands, rather
    than command types (ie- all [CTRL] commands are in one place and all
    [SHFT] in another, rather than all Editing commands in one place and
    all Cursor commands in another.)  BTW: I wrote this using TEDIT.
    
    [START]-(hold) allows most [CTRL] characters to be used
    [F2]-See [CTRL]+[K]
    [F3]-See load file ([CTRL]+[L])
    [F4]-print to device ([CTRL]+[M])
    [INVERSE]-inverse video mode
    [TAB]-5 spaces
    [SHFT] (hold) commands:
     [DEL]-delete a line
     [INS]-insert many spaces
    [CTRL] (hold) commands:
     [A]-beginning of line
     [B]-bottom of file
     [C]-clear memory
     [D]-down 1 screen
     [E]-erase spaces til next word
     [F]-find (and replace) (use [SELECT]+[TAB] for [RET])
     [H]-top of screen
     [I]-toggle insert/replace mode
     [K]-character caps toggle
     [L]-load file
     [M]-print to device
     [N]-word count
     [O]-toggle alignment dots
     [P]-print file
     [Q]-quit to DOS
     [R]-switch current char.w/ next char.
     [S]-save file
     [T]-top of file
     [U]-up 1 screen
     [W]-move to beginning of next word
     [X]-disk directory
     [Z]-end of line
     [arrow]-move cursor
     [DEL]-delete current char.
     [INS]-insert a space
     [CAP]-see [CTRL]+[K]
     [F1]-lock/unlock keyboard
     [F2]-blank screen
     [F3]-toggle insert/replace mode ([CTRL]+[I])
     [F4]-turn on Atari character set (not toggling)
 
 
 
 
 
 

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                   August 31, 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Can I use BOBTERM with 80 COLLUMS??????????????????
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:57:55 GMT

In article <1856ufINNgo5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bd891@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Allwood) writes:
>
>Is it possible???????????????????????????????????????
Only if you have an XEP-80.  Then you rename the XEP80.BTM file to MODULE1.BTM
or MODULE2.BTM.
>GO ATARI

Bill Marcum
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SpartaDos trashing directories!!!
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 07:54:07 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I've lost a disk or two to SD, but I'm not sure if it was me banging
hardware registers or SD. It happened when I had a disk nearly full &
a SAVE did me in. At the time I thought the problem was the save took up
all the free sectors & somehow a directory sector was either used out right
or SD tried to grab another sector to expand the directory & nothing was
left. I also had more then one disk's boot sectors go bad & get the famous;
"Unrecognized disk format" for that you just need to use a sector copier with
an intact SD disk & copy the 1 sector to the scrambled disk.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ichamiel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Itay Chamiel)
Subject: Re: Atari corp. (Falcon?)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:04:28 GMT

>In article <64809@cup.portal.com> Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com writes:
>>Falcon?  What's the Falcon?  Never heard of it!  (And I AM a "die-hard Atari 
>>fan" -- just goes to prove how little Atari advertises.)
>
Never heard of it myself... but I'm in Israel..
I have never seen an Atari ad around here... not even ST..

-Itay Chamiel  --> bruck@brachot.jct.ac.il
                   ichamiel@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: GEnie To Internet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:00:30 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

All in all, I'm glad I've been able to enjoy the Internet for a few years
while it has been populated largely with intelligent people with something
to say that's reasonably worth reading, because I expect that as CI$, Delphi,
AOL, probably Prodigy eventually, etc., become capable of accessing the Inter-
net, the Internet will fill and clog up with drivel and become a lot less
useful.  I hope I'm wrong, but this is really what I expect.

Chris Chiesa
  Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
From: Roger.Mier@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Roger Mier)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: WANTED - Atari 8-bit programs
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:44:00 -0600

       Hello, I'm looking for a few 8-Bit programs that I am having trouble
finding.

       Bridge 5.0 by Artworx
       Compubridge
       Blue Team Bridge

       Family Tree
       Find your Roots (Not sure of the title)

please Mail me if you want to get rid of thiese programs.  Will pay a small fee
for them +shipping

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS {MSP}MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Quick (was Re: CGS and all that good stuff...)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 20:45:17 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

"Marek Tomczyk" <UJ1G@DKAUNI2.BITNET> writes:

> BTW: Bill, you said that you got in touch with PPP by yourself.
> Did they gave you additional information about Quick and ordering?
> 

Yes.  I beLIEVE they said they would accept US cash..  I'd need to double 
check. (all I'm worried about is that YOU will ;) ).  I have Harold 
Schonfeld's e-mail address (he's one of the programmers of Quick).

It's:  aohybrid@cnve.rrze.uni-erlangen.dbp.de

Please put the subject: "Letter to HS".

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__________________________________
                   August 26, 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Memory Expansion Modules for the 800.
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 21:02:18 EST
 ac.ca.us><1992Aug26.213452.28424@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.

In regards to the 256K memory card expansion.  I have an article in
a little booklet I got in '87 called  Mods, Fixes, and Upgrades which
details this.  I finally got a copy of the documentation out to Dan Nowicki
who had requested the information back when  I was doing the Atari Classics
campaign.   Well, better late than never anyhow.

Jeff McWilliams    ---->  jjmcwill@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
jjmcwill@mtus5.mtu.edu    jjmcwill@mtus5.mtu.edu.BITNET
cd827@cleveland.freenet.edu
cd827%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
From: Amos.Jackson@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Amos Jackson)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Pastfinder
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:28:01 -0600

I've also been playing Necromancer for years and haven't been able to get past
the last graveyard.  I always get 'bum-rushed' and get trashed!!
 
Amos Jackson

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS {MSP}MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: XEP80 and Monitor.
Distribution: world
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:23:35 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

In North America the XEP80 outputs a monochrome composite video signal with
the NTSC standard - I assume that Atari marketed a PAL version in Europe. 
By the way, don't waste your time hooking a XEP80 to a composite color
monitor.  The signal will smear so badly that the characters will likely be
illegible.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: dhong@wam.umd.edu (Sze Yuen Hong)
Subject: Misc. software for sale
Originator: dhong@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:50:52 GMT


I have about 20-25 disk of software for sale, they are all original,
including some games like Dark Crystal, Arcade Machine, Flight Simulator,
+ some more, I have orignal box and manual for a lot of them, I also have
3-4 word processor, 3-4 graphics package, a spread sheet, dos 2.5 etc, etc.

Don't want to split the whole chunk, what about $30 + shipping for all.

Sze Hong
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Memory Expansion Modules for the 800.
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:34:52 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <1992Aug26.094224.15515@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John) writes:

>In <Aug.23.04.54.37.1992.7664@remus.rutgers.edu> bufort@remus.rutgers.edu (Anthony Bufort) writes:

>>Remember those old plug-in memory expansion
>>modules for the 800?  Where might I be able
>>to get some, preferably 16 or 32 K ones?
>>I want to upgrade my 800's memory to at
>>least that of an XL.

>You might try calling B&C Computervisions in Santa Clara (408)
>986-9960 or San Jose Computer.

I needed some of these a month ago and posted a message looking for people
who may have some spares laying around.  I received several responses, so
there are still people out there that might be able to help you.  I'm
assuming that you really only need one or two.

If you're interested in selling, you might want to contact
bufort@remus.rutgers.edu.  (I believe that is the person who started
this thread.)

Of course, you can only use the standard cards to get up to 48K.  If you
need more than that, you need a card that is specially designed for that.
(Actually, you can modify a standard 16K card to make a 256K card--I
know of several people who have done it, but I don't have the information
on how they did it.  It takes a lot of soldering, the 256K chips, and I
think a few cheap controller chips.)

Is anyone familiar with this upgrade technique?  I suppose someone could
start a business where people mail in a 16K card with $$$ and you send them
back a 256K card.

--PC
--
$ "If a man has recently married, he must not be sent to war or have any     $
$ other duty laid on him.  For one year he is to be free to stay at home and $
$ bring happiness to the wife he has married."  --Deuteronomy 24:5           $
$ So that's why people get divorced--nobody can afford a decent honeymoon.   $
From: dmb@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Pastfinder
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:23:56 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

Has anyone ever completed this *infernal* game?  I've been playing it
for years now and I've never gotten past the last stage.  Every time, I
feel like chucking my 8 bit out the window becuause it's *so
frustrating* to play for three hours and then lose 30 lives in the last
four rows.

Does anyone know if David Lubar has an Internet mail address?  I wonder
what form of torture he's working on these days...

Dave Baggett
--
dmb@ai.mit.edu           MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory                  
ADVENTIONS: interactive fiction (text adventures) for the 90's!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Those funny XF551 drives
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:53:10 GMT

A few years ago (quite a few, I suppose) I bought a nifty XF551 drive
for my 800 when my discontinued 1050 died on me.

I did notice, though, that the XF drive is a bit incompatible with
some of my disks.  For instance Flight Simulator II no longer loads
and gives some sort of memory error.

Is this an inherent problem with the new (!) drive, or are my disks
just damaged from the old faltering 1050?
(What would make the XF551 different, except for the plastic case?)
-- 
 __                                                                        __
(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: Atari binaries postings.  A comment...
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 22:48:08 GMT


Grover Thomas says there may not be even 100 users on *this* group.
Probably true.  So, before we try to get a vote in news.group, let's take
a vote here.  This will save us the embarrassment of losing out there in
front of the teeming masses.

Send your vote by email to:   thester@nyx.cs.du.edu 

Should we have an Atari 8-bit binaries group, yay or nay?

If you can't email me, then post here in such a way that it attracts 
attention.  P
Since no one else has volunteered for this task, I thought I would go
ahead with it.
Of course, I will post the results here too.

Uncle Fester

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: gstovall@crchh67.bnr.ca (Greg Stovall)
Subject: drives for 800xl
Reply-To: gstovall@crchh67.bnr.ca (Greg Stovall)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 17:32:45 GMT

Does anyone know of a commercial source for new or used drives
for an 800xl?  I'm thinking of setting mine up for my son to
learn on...
-- 
Gregory T. Stovall                gstovall@bnr.ca
Bell-Northern Research            ESN   444-7009
Richardson, Texas, USA            (214) 684-7009
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari binaries postings. A comment...
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 23:19:49 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:

> BTW:  Will people have trouble accessing uuencoded files?  I won't
> have any problem, but then again, I'm using a Unix box to do my transfers.
> 

Just post UUDECODE.BAS and YAU.ARC every once in a while...
        I actually might try my hand at a better YAU/YAUEE combo once I 
get Quick or Action! working (whichever gets working first!)

___________________________ ||| __      PhBill @ Cyberden (+1 415 472-5527)
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moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us      (North of San Francisco)    \\//
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                 September 2, 1992
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino)
Subject: Re: MIO and Hard Drives
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:09:35 GMT


To answer your question, yes you need a controller with a SCSI
drive but you NEED the drive WITHOUT the imbedded controller.
Just about all the new drives have imbedded controllers.
Last year I put a hard drive on my 1 meg MIO. Heres what I did.
I bought a used RLL 30meg HD Seagate ST238 (They still sell these
refurbished). (the drive cost me $75). Then I sent to CCS (Bob
Puff) and bought an Adaptec ACB-4070 RLL controller ($125). Bob sent
me the cables for $5.  Then I bought an IBM minitower to house
this thing in...all the hardware, nuts, bolts everything came
with the minitower, 200w power supply and everything for $67.
(Now I'm putting 3 1/2" drives in thar too.) Everything just
plugs right in! On the disk I got with the MIO was the program
to format the drive and the only drive that has a PARK program
is on the disk too and it is for that RLL drive.
If you bought a MIO the docs on it and the controller are
invaluable!  Follow these closely.
-- 
Joe Sabatino-->ab588@yfn.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: avi@hawk.imagen.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Clarification about Re: Posting atari 8-bit binary files here.
Keywords: question
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:31:43 GMT
Reply-To: avi@hawk.imagen.com
Organization: none

> (Michael Current) writes:
>I think the reason is simply that there wouldn't be enough traffic.
>Look at the Atari Archive FTP site.  How many 8-bit uploads are there a
>month?  An average of maybe 3 or 4?
>
>Granted not all, but MOST everybody reading this group can get at the 
>atari.archive either by FTP or by e-mail with BART.
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Would some kind soul please expand on it ? 
I have no ftp access but possibly can access via email from 
my SPARC station PC

How would I get to the atari.archive using email with BART ? (what is it
anyway)? and even if I did - how would I transfer the binaries from the Sun
to the Atari 8 Bit ???

Sorry about this beginner question, but I have a feeling there are 
also others who would like to know.

Thanks,

avi@imagen.com
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Expanding a 400 to over 48K
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:43:31 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

Yes you can expand a 400 to over 48K the same as you can an 800, but keep
in mind that the RAM over 48K is NOT the same as that on the 130XE.  The
best upgrade will be "Axlon" compatible which can be used as a RAM disk or
is supported by a limited amount of software (SynCalc and SDX come to
mind).

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SpartaDos trashing directories!!!
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:46:09 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

I never had a problem with Sparta 3.2 trashing directories as you mention. 
I started out with 3.2 and upgraded to SDX with no problems.  What kind of
drive & density are you using.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: Col80.arc & Mouse.arc
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27642]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:37:56 GMT

Col80.arc has been placed in the Atari archives at Umich in the atari/8bit/new
section.

Mouse.arc, a short ML mouse driver for use in basic programs has also been sent
to the archives.

If you do not have ftp access to the archives, drop me a note and I'll 
uuencode them and send you a copy.  If you can not uudecode, for the cost of 
stamps I'll ship them USPS....

Mike Todd
WBUG Atari Archives
Louisiana
______________________________________________________________________________
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