HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

There are far more than I know but here's a few:

Family	models	name
INDIGO	830	indigo

CATS	850	cheetah
	855	jaguar
	860	cougar
	865	panther(?)
	870	panther

GUNS	825	firefox
	834	topgun
	835	topgun
	845	shogun

SILVER	822(?)	silverfox (low)
	832(?)	silverfox (high)
	842(?)	silverbullet (low)
	852(?)	silverbullet (high)
		silverlite

NOVA	8X7	nova8
	 "	nova
	 "	mid-nova
	 "	supernova

EMERALD	890	emerald, chimera

All disclaimers apply.

Jon Watts                     785-8181 (Roseville)   785-4686 (Alt. Roseville)
Networked Computer            447-5426 (Cupertino)   916-535-1360 (pager)
Manufacturing Operation       Unix Mail: jwatts@mothra.rose.hp.com
M/S R4M2                      HPDESK: Jon WATTS / HP5200/UM

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: creon@nas.nasa.gov (M. Creon Levit)
Subject: Re: Help for my binary read !!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:11:48
Reply-To: creon@nas.nasa.gov


I have a simple program that converts arbitrary fortran unformatted files
(sometimes confusingly refered to as fortran "binary" files, but I think
that is nonstandard terminology) to C binary files (for the iris 4D series).
If there is interest I will post it.

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Mail Stop T045-1
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Moffett Field, California 94035-1000
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From: tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: remque, insque source code?
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:25:30 GMT
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Laboratory for Information
	Processing (VTT/TIK)

In article <2845@tivoli.UUCP> stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel) writes:
   Does anyone know of a public source for remque/insque?

Here you are: (from X11R5/mit/lib/Berk/Berklib.c)

#ifdef WANT_QUE
struct qelem {
    struct    qelem *q_forw;
    struct    qelem *q_back;
    char *q_data;
    };

insque(elem, pred)
register struct qelem *elem, *pred;
{
    register struct qelem *q;
    /* Insert locking code here */
    if ( elem->q_forw = q = (pred ? pred->q_forw : pred) )
	q->q_back = elem;
    if ( elem->q_back = pred )
	pred->q_forw = elem;
    /* Insert unlocking code here */
}

remque(elem)
register struct qelem *elem;
{
    register struct qelem *q;
    if ( ! elem ) return;
    /* Insert locking code here */

    if ( q = elem->q_back ) q->q_forw = elem->q_forw;
    if ( q = elem->q_forw ) q->q_back = elem->q_back;

    /* insert unlocking code here */
}
#endif /* WANT_QUE */
--
Tor Lillqvist,
working, but not speaking, for the Technical Research Centre of Finland
From: freeman@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Jon Freeman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Humble apology
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:35:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I apologize for my complaint about 'xset fp+'.  The font directory I
was using does not work on ANY of our machines anymore.  It used to,
but somebody must have changed it without my knowledge.  I still don't
understand why the directory is not valid, but it's certainly not an
HP-specific problem.  (So, does anybody happen to know all of the
reasons why a font directory with a valid fonts.dir file can be
unacceptable to an X server?)

			Thanks,
			 Jon
"If you make the mistake of getting trapped on | Jon Freeman
a railroad crossing and a train is approaching,| University of Pennsylvania
quickly leave the car and move as far away from| freeman@gradient.cis.upenn.edu
the track as you can."-PA Driver's Manual, p.60| Office: (215) 898-4612
From: dhandly@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Dennis Handly)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 10:11:17 GMT
Subject: Re: PA assmembly to get current PC-offset (CR18)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Cal Language Lab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>/ stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel) / 10:19 am  Aug 18, 1992 /
>Of course  MFCTL   18,28  wont do it since you must be at the
>most privileged level to do a MFCTL for most control registers.

You use a BL to get the old value of PC.  In fact if you set up a
routine you just return the value that is in R2.

>PC-space is much easier (mfsp    sr4,r20).

No, it is much harder.  SR4 doesn't have to tract PCspace.  You have
to already know that SR4 is the same, or that you can use LDSID on
the PCoffset that you got from a BL.  (This will select SR4 through
SR7.)

Or you know you were called with a BLE and that SR0 contains the
space.  (This selects any of the SR0 through SR7.)

I suppose there is a way to get PCspace different than any of the
SR registers.  In fact this occurs on an intermodule call on MPE/iX.
(Except SR4 is soon changed to match.)

But in almost all cases you are correct.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dem@volkl (Doron Meyer)
Subject: Keeping secure w/ physical access
Organization: Princeton University Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 14:57:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.212928.28666@gdwest.gd.com> good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good) writes:
>
>I realize that physical access allows people to do nasty things, but in
>our environment, having someone mess around with the connections to the
>disks would probably be noticed and stopped.  Cycling power on a 
>workstation probably would not be noticed.  I guess I'd like to see it
>where a bad guy would have to seriously mess with the hardware to do
>anything really harmfull.  After all, I can't lock all our workstations 
>up in a vault, or nobody would be able to use them!

No, but if you have a decent lab setup, you could put the actual workstations
in a secure room, and then run cables for the monitor and keyboard which
would be in a different room.

This way, the miscreant only has a chance when the power goes out.
And if the machines are in a central location as described above, hooking
them up to a UPS is trivial.

Doron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jhd@irfu.se (Jan D.)
Subject: Re: diff to return a value in a shell script?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:06:23 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <yy9mlkb.kc@netcom.com> kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch) writes:
>I'm writing a shell script under HP/UX 8.07 that will preform its task
>if and only if any changes were made to the file. I need to have diff
>somehow return only an integer value or some other method of determining
>an error, no differences, or that there are diffs. I've read the man
>page on diff and it does not specify an option to get what I want.
>
>Any ideas?

Use cmp instead of diff. It's faster. For example:

	cmp -s $file1 $file2 2>/dev/null
	status=$?

	if test X"$status" = X0
	then
		echo "Files $file1 and $file2 are identical"
	fi
	if test X"$status" = X1
	then
		echo "Files $file1 and $file2 differ"
	fi
	if test X"$status" = X2
	then
		echo "Error in arguments"
	fi


	Jan D.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: cac@iear.arts.rpi.edu (Christopher A. Cox)
Subject: Ghostscript, DOS, and an HP Laserjet
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:49:07 GMT

	Well, back again.  I forgot another thing I meant to ask before:

	I am trying to get Ghostscript for DOS to work with my HP
Laserjet.  It thinks it's printing, it puts on the formfeed light, but
nothing comes out at all.  Ghostscript has a specific setting for the
LJ so I would assume it can do it.  I've seen it print to old Epson dot
matrix machines so it must be able to do something.

						Chris

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From: larryt@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Larry Thompson)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:39:11 GMT
Subject: Re: What are the internal names for the various HP computers?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>/ hpcupt3:comp.sys.hp / roeber@vxcrna.cern.ch /  8:05 am  Aug 20, 1992 /
>What are the internal names for the various HP computers?
>
>I know the 700s are "snakes," and way back when I used to use
>"chipmunks" and "bobcats."  What are all the others called?

Chipmunks - series 200's
Bobcats - series 300's

This is in the same era where s800 had names like: Indigo, Cheetah, TopGun,
Firefox, SilverFox, SilverBullet. 

Boy you're really asking for it! There's so many names for different things
it will drive you crazy.

Here's some of the latest names I know of (and this is no where near complete):

In the Snakes family there are:
	Coral
	King Cobra
	Bush Wacker

All of the 8x7 family is referred to the Nova series. In this series
there are also:
	SuperNova (857 I think)

There is the Emerald (89X) 

My $00.02,
 Larry Thompson
From: jp107@amtp.cam.ac.uk (Jon Peatfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Emacs-18.58
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:59:30 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University DAMTP

I believe that the C-TOOLS set arn't in the instant ignition set of
files on pre installed machines.  Certainly the 720 we had with
instant ignition, didn't have lex/yacc, but the 705 which I installed
from CD-rom did.  Personally I ran the yacc/lex through on a Sun, and
compiled the resulting code on the snake to make our emacs-18.58.

I could be wrong though.

--
Jon Peatfield, Computer Officer, the DAMTP, University of Cambridge
Telephone: (+44 223) 33-7852     Mail: J.S.Peatfield@amtp.cam.ac.uk

"...and landed on the planet Harlech where an advanced culture is
governed by autonomous universities." -- The Rakehells of Heaven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: zrde05@trc.amoco.com (Robert D. Ess)
Subject: Newcomer
Keywords: FAQ
Reply-To: zrde05@trc.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:25:22 GMT

Where is the FAQ list? Thanks.




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                 "Magic -- a science waiting on it's Newton" 

From: darrylo@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:42:15 GMT
Subject: Re: HP 9000/370, no root password!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good) writes:

> That's certainly an interesting "feature".  Is there any way to prevent 
> this from occuring?  We have a network of ~60 350s, and I'd hate to have 
> users be able to be superuser anytime they want just by cycling power on 
> a workstation!

     In practice, if an "attacker" has access to the hardware (disks,
CPU, power supply, etc.), there is no way that the system can be made
secure.  You can fool yourself into thinking that the system is secure,
but someone, somewhere, can probably always find a way to break in if
the hardware is accessible.

     -- Darryl Okahata
	Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com

DISCLAIMER (unoriginal): This message is the author's personal opinion
and does not constitute the support, opinion or policy of
Hewlett-Packard.  Any resemblance between the above views and those of
the author's employer, his terminal, or the view out his window are
purely coincidental.  Any resemblance between the above and his own
views is non-deterministic.  The question of the existence of views in
the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the
reader.  The question of the existence of the reader is left as an
exercise for the second god coefficient.  (A discussion of
non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this
article.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: HP VUE swiss fonts: are BDF sources available somewhere?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:59:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Aug19.191310.27337@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> bcripe@hpcvxba.cv.hp.com (Brian E. Cripe) writes:
>In article <mathieu.714166948@gdim>, mathieu@geod.emr.ca (Pierre Mathieu) writes:
>|> What is the story on the swiss fonts used by HP VUE? The sys.resources
>|> file contains lines like:
>|> 
>|>   *FontList:              -*-swiss 742-bold-r-normal-*-140-*-p-100-*
>|>   *systemFont:            -*-swiss 742-bold-r-normal-*-140-*-p-100-*
>|> 
>|> 	Are these HP proprietary fonts? If not, can the BDF sources be obtained
>|> from some Internet site?
>
>I think these are fonts that we (HP) purchased and I don't think the sources
>are available.  (But I could be all wet.)  I will pass your question on to
>others who might know better -- but I think they are currently on vacation
>so don't expect an immediate answer.
>
>	Brian Cripe


Talking about fonts, the HP VUE User's guide does not mention any
possibility of changing them to some more readable ones.  I
find the courier-like default not only unattractive but also, 
sometimes confusing.  Look at the difference between 0 and 8!

You got to carefully look at them on my 710 with the 16 in
color (1024x768) monitor.

Swiss fonts would be much better.

Luc B
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: SCRAMNet on the HP9000/720
From: newwave@desire.wright.edu
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:29:39 EST
Organization: Wright State University 


Hi:

  I am in the process of writing a program to access memory on the EISA bus
on the HP9000 Series 720 running HP-UX 8.07.  I have the E/ISA Adapter 
installed in the system.  The device I am trying to install is called 
SCRAMNet.  It is an Optical Shared Memory Networking Porduct.  It has 
on-board memory that can range from 128K to 2M bytes.  This is Shared Memory.

  The task I am trying to accomplish is to access this hardware that has memory
on the E/ISA bus.  The only way I have found to get to this memory in the 
above environment is through "shmat" and "shmget" operations.  This requires a
driver.

  My question to all interested party is whether I am on the right track?  Or
is there another way to get to the SCRAMNet Memory.  Any help or suggestions
are welcomed.

Please email your responses.  I will post results if people request.  Thanking
you in advance.

Cheers...
K. Desai
From: huck@aspen.NSA.HP.COM (Jerry Huck)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:51:30 GMT
Subject: Re: signal behaviour differs between hp9000 machines
Organization: HP Networked Systems Architecture - Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, cary@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Cary Coutant) writes:

    > On the /800 the divide instruction is restarted and another exception is
    > raised, resulting in an infinite loop.

    Are you sure it is the divide instruction that's restarted, or is it a
    subsequent floating-point instruction that uses the result of the divide?
    By the way, how did you arm the exceptions?  On PA, floating-point
    exceptions are disabled by default.

    Because of the pipelined nature of the PA-RISC FPU, most exceptions are
    delayed. ...

Cary gives an excellent description of the operation of the PA-RISC
floating-point unit and I'ld like to add a little more detail to
assist anyone writing such a signal handler.

It's possible (even likely with a 720) that multiple exceptions are
being reported by the floating-point unit.  Sometimes it is a normal
IEEE exception (if enabled), sometimes its an instruction that the
chip is unable to execute (like NaN handling), and finally it can
be an instruction where an earlier exception has created a data
dependency.  For example:
       fadd,dbl r4,r5 -> r6      <= overflow trap
       fsub,dbl r6,r7 -> r8
       fstw r8...

A 720 will probably trap on the FSTW instruction with the FADD reporting
OVERFLOW and the FSUB reporting UNIMPLEMENTED.  So now the exception
handler needs to creat a result for the FADD and then get that
FSUB instruction to execute.

So what does this all mean?  When the 720 traps and raises the SIGFPE
signal, the signal handler should deal with the first problem,
clear that exception register, and then return.  In the example, the
T-bit in the status register will still be set, the FSTW will get
restarted and immediately trap, the kernel exception handler will emulate
the UNIMPLMENTED FSUB, clear that exception register, find no other
exceptions, clear the T-bit, and then restart the FSTW (which can
now procede.  This simplifies the user's signal handler.  You can
assume that something needs to be handled, doing nothing to the
exception registers is a sure infinite loop.

Jerry Huck
Hewlett-Packard

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc
From: cgh018@tijc02.uucp (Calvin Hayden x2254)
Subject: Re: Pls help: Misc questions
Organization: Siemens Industrial Automation, Johnson City TN
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 12:27:09 GMT

From article <1992Aug14.100417.23395@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk>, by a866700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Wong Siu To):
> Hi all,
> 
> Hope that this's not FAQ's.
> 
> I want to know if HP-UX (8.07) has the re_comp and re_exec regular
> expression handler calls.  I'm compiling pathalias (version 11) on my
> HP720 and found that these calls are undefined.  I've installed this
> software on a DECstation 5000/200 and everything's fine.  Is there any
> work around ?
> 
Depends...  Do you have just the runtime system, or a full blown development
system (or one of the in betweens)?  HP/UX runtime system only comes with a
subset of the commands that makes unix unix (in my opinion).  For instance,
it does not include lex, yacc, sccs, lint, or many of the online man pages for
C function calls.  If you have man pages, try looking for regexec or regcomp,
or possibly regex and regcmp.  We basically found out - much to our dismay -
that to get everything that we felt needed to be in a "unix" system, that we
had to purchase their ANSI C Developers bundle on top of the basic runtime OS.
In our case, we are running 8.05 on a 720.  From looking at the time stamps on
the man page files, it looks like the at least the man pages were added as part
of one of HP's "extras", and not as part of the runtime distribution.
Their levels of software are something like this...

    HP/UX 8.xxx Runtime
      General Programming Tools (sccs, rcs, ...)
        Developers Toolkit (General pgm tools, Starbase/X/Motif prg tools)
          Ansi C Developers Bundle (ANSI C, lint, lex, yacc, etc...,
                                    plus anything you get in the above
                                    two subsets)

Real pain in the *ss way to do things if you ask me.  Getting this information
out of them was also a pain.

My opinions...

Calvin
-- 
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-- My opinions and mine alone --      cgh018@tijc02.uucp         
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: grue@specter.engin.umich.edu (Paul Howell)
Subject: limit/unlimit in csh?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:09:36 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: csh
Originator: grue@specter.engin.umich.edu



I'm use to seeing the csh builtins, limit and unlimit.  But they're not
in the HPUX 8.07 (PA-9000/720) csh!

So how does one increase their stacksize?  

Thanks.

< Paul
-- 
Paul Howell
Computer Aided Engineering Network, The University of Michigan
2121 Bonisteel Drive			voice: (313)936-2486
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2092		  fax: (313)936-3107
From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:24:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Installing HP9000/710
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>    I was just delivered an HP710 that doesn't have the OS installed.  My only
> cd-rom drive is on another HP 7xx.  Is there a why to boot this sucker over
> the net?  Any help is greatly appreciated.

It is possible to set up a netdist server and install 8.07 over the net.
Documentation for this is in the "Installing and Updating HP-UX 8.07" manual.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
From: lienhart@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Bob Lienhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: lp question
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:11:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcdc.5570896
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.

>Is there an HP-UX equivalent to /etc/printcap?  I know that one can use
>SAM to configure printers; but what files get modified?

Several files under /usr/spool/lp get modified, but the one you
are probably most interested in is /usr/spool/lp/interface/<printername>.

Template interface scripts, called models, are stored in /usr/spool/lp/model.
Generally sam allows the user to pick one of these models.  A copy of the
chosen model is then stored in /usr/spool/lp/interface under the printer's
name.  This interface script is user-modifiable and can be editted to change
default behavior and/or to add specific functions.

Bob Lienhart
From: rdg@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rob Gardner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Re: 'cat' does not complete - REPOST
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:50:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA


> : On a machine running HP-UX, I found that cat'ing a file to the screen
> : only puts out 50-100 lines of the file, then stops, mid-line.  If I
> : remove the line it stopped at, it gets only a little farther.  The file
> : is straight ASCII, and it is stopping in the middle of words.
> : 
> : When it stops, the shell is waiting for input, but there is no
> : prompt.  I have never seen anything like this before.
> : 
> : It is probably something really simple, but I can not figure it out.
> : i.e.
> : $ cat testing 
> : BROWN
> : RED
> : YEL
> :    ^cursor stops here
> 
> MORE INFO - It turns out all command stop like this.  A 'ps -ef' stops
> about half way down the list.  I am dialing in via a modem if this
> helps.  I still can't figure it out.

Your modem/pc/terminal/emulator is probably dropping characters
because they are arriving too fast. Try setting up xon/xoff pacing at
both ends. 

Rob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

3270 Emulator Source Code for HP-UX


Does anyone know where I can get source code for a 3270 Emulator that runs
across TCP/IP for an HP_UX system and/or workstation???

Thanks and send responses to:

pklouda@hpunila.hpunila.hp.com

Paul Klouda
414-792-8800
From: kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Bug in yppasswd on 8.0?
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:02:01 GMT
Organization: Wayne's World, Inc -- NOT!

I remember reading somewhere or someone telling me about a bug in yppasswd
that would throw a \n in instead of a real carriage return under 8.0.
We have a series of standalone HP9000/720s running 8.07 and a series of
clustered HP9000/300 series machines running 8.0 (the NIS server is a
HP9000/730 running 8.07).

Does this bug actually exist? If so, how do I fix it?
-- 
Dameon Welch, NH6TW
kc@netcom.com               +-----------------------------------------+
Engineering Design Center   | Help, I'm trapped in a .signature file! |
Santa Clara University      +-----------------------------------------+
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