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From: ganderso@ems.cdc.com (Gary Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Doomsday Series
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:21:38 GMT
Reply-To: ganderso@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

If anyone is interested, I just picked up Action Comics 684
at my local shop.  Look for it near you.

A fan.
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Hulk
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:11:54 GMT

>
>	Justice
>
>	justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
>

Hmmm, I guess I was wrong when I said that there's no justice.

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From: ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew Symons Troth)
Subject: Re: DC: MM- American Secrets
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:05:03 GMT

In article <If0lOtC00htyIx=loJ@andrew.cmu.edu> "James D. Zelenka" <jz1j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>So, has anyone but me been reading this?
>So far, I'm pretty impressed. DC hasn't done anything this good in the
>superhero genre in a while.
>
>Any word on when #3 will be out? Did I miss it totally? (whimper)
>
>-jim
>jz1j@andrew.cmu.edu

Yeah, I'm reading it too, and anxiously awaiting the final issue. Personally 
I see it as an hilarious lampoon of all our assumptions and popular cliches
regarding the fifties. Jones' research skills are obviously tremendous, and
you couldn't ask for a better artistthan Eduardo Barreto. Just another 
reason to like Gerard Jones.
	As for when the final issue will be out, I really can't say. I call
the DC hotline every week (212-636-5461 if you're interested) and the 
last official word, several weeks ago, was that it would come out the week
of Nov. 3. Obviously, it didn't, and they have yet to give a new release 
date for this. I have nightmares of this turning into another _Kid Eternity_
or _Lobo's Back_. Oh well. At least this one's worth waiting for.

cheers,
	ast
From: lazarus@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: X-Men: The MovieOkay, since there's been plenty of talk about the
Date: 7 Nov 1992 04:44:57 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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In article <92310.172212SMM130@psuvm.psu.edu>, <SMM130@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Personally, I would prefer Julia Roberts as Jean Grey, or Mary Jane in the
>Spider-Man movie.

NO!  Julia Roberts is so much fluff!  That's ALMOST as bad as the thought of
Madonna as Dazzler!  There MUST be some low-profile actress out there with
the looks and decent acting skills to portray Jean Grey.

>Also, how about Clint Eastwood as Wolverine (Snappy patter, smokes cigars,
>kills bad guys as soon as looks at them....)

Again, a no-name (no offense if there are such people reading!  ;)  ) actor
should be cast as Wolverine.  There has GOT to be someone out there of that
build, height (5'2), and general bad-ass look, and they don't necessarily
HAVE to be famous.  Although they might GET that way if they do a good job
with the role.  ;)

All flames will be redirected to alt.non-existent without review...

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From: cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: What's up with Suicide Squid t-shirts ?
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:54:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: lea.cole.721670042
Organization: North Carolina State University

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>I certainly hope nothing bad happened to the shirts...Netlurker and I already 
>sent in our money....
>     Dave Van Domelen, T-shirt Lad

I've e-mailed him twice concerning the placement of an order.  I was
trying to find out if the shorts were still available and should I go
ahead and send the check.  Haven't heard back from him (and the mail
didn't bounce).

Perhaps he's busy arranging details for this print run of shirts.

Hopefully, we'll all here something soon.

Robert Cole 
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From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Hulk
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:16:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.193231.9819@Princeton.EDU>, mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov6.123445.1@skcla.monsanto.com>, jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>>It seems pretty apparent that Bruce has full control over his body by just
>>conceiving it.  When that guy from the U-Foes flayed him down to bones, he
>>survived and recovered.  Not healed, just got better.  When that guy who was
>>after Atalanta shot the Hulk, he really put a hole through him, and he got
>>better.  If Bruce believes he's OK, he's OK.  Doc Samson must be one hell of a
>>psychologist.
> 
> Wrong. Hulk has an insanely fast regeneration ability. Even faster than ol'
> Wolvierine. That's how the Hulk was able to survive his fight with the same
> X-Man as no matter how fast Wolverine sliced into the Hulk, the Hulk healed
> almost instantly afterwards. The Hulk isn't quite as armored as people think
> he just heals fast enough to appear that way.

OK, it's science blather time.
Originally, Wolvie had a *healing factor*, and his body could heal, like ours
does, but rilly rilly fast.  Lately (ref:Meltdown) he's been able to regrow an
arm's worth of flesh, but I don't buy that too well.  It was from EPIC, so we
can probably ignore it :)

The Hulk, on the other hand, (a) doesn't scar, (b) doesn't heal, he GETS
BETTER.  What is regeneration, anyway?  Are his cells dividing at an ungodly
rate, meaning the Hulk needs one heck of a pizza break after a fight, or is his
flesh being created out of whole cloth by the power of his mind (my pet theory
is that almost all 'scientifically impossible' things in the Marvel universe
are done by the mind/device openning a gateway to another dimension's power,
and channelling it into something).

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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: new HELLBLAZER reader...needs background...
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:35:36 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <BxGx9p.HBG@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>It should be noted that the Kipling character in Doom Patrol (who appears
>in basically every third storyline, I think) is basically a running
>Constantine take-off...

According to Phil Foglio (who ran into a similar situation), Kipling's
first appearance in Doom Patrol was originally going to be a Constantine
crossover, but DC's adult-fantasy editor didn't like the planned use of
the character and said no.  Hence the Constantine clone.
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: The Death of the Earth (was Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth)
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.destroy.the.earth
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:40:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.002505.4769@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:
>>Gaiman's death doesn't really fit in a context where there are lots of alien
>>races and cultures; I have to ignore them in order to read Sandman sensibly.
>>I'm of the opinion that for Gaiman to put his mythology in the DC Universe
>>severely harms both unless you ignore each one in the other.  (Just one
>>question: why do we never see Death whenever any world _other_ than the Earth
>>gets destroyed?
>That one's easy. What we saw was a contemporary (i.e. 30th
>century) artist's conception. A here-and-now artist might have
>painted the Grim Reaper next to the exploding planet. Since the
>30th century is soggy with sorcerers, they know what Death really
>looks like, and that's how they drew her.

Um, that wasn't the question.  I didn't ask why Death does show up now, but why
Death doesn't show up other times.
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the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

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     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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From: mikeo@seas.gwu.edu (Michael J O'Malley)
Subject: Re: Murders at Gaiman Manor (really Sandman)
Summary: Maybe Lucifer.... 
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:22:53 GMT

   What if Lucifer IS behind the blocking of Dream's quest?  Hell is undergoing
what could only be described as mobilization after Constantine, Satan makes
mocking remarks about Lucifer at every turn....
   While I'm not going so far as to say that Lucifer wants his old job back, 
if he DOES begin to play a greater role, it'll be in both titles.  What better
place to begin than now?

   (Ignore the incoherent ramblings above....)

Mike 

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From: byron@netcom.com (Byron C. Go)
Subject: Re: Death Death Death Death Death, and more Death
Followup-To: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:50:56 GMT

In article <14659.2b03a756@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
kiemschies@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

# Arrg,
#    It seems most of the fictional characters I like are dying off. In comics,
# Superman, Starman, and the planet Earth itself (I know it's not a fictional
# character, but I'm a bit fond of it) bite the dust. In books the same seems
# be happening. I don't want to give too much away, but if any Douglass Adams
# fans out there haven't read Mostly Harmless be warned, it's good, but the end
# is a real downer.

Well, I've heard that Adams didn't really want to write another Hitchhiker's
Guide book and that he did this just to appease the fans.  Now with all the
multidimensional/alternate reality stuff that was going on, this may not be
a permanent fix but it seems to me like a pretty good way of getting out of
writing more HHGTTG, at least for the next two years or so.

     byron  (:

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From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Sandman #1
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 19:31:47 GMT

naam@cecer.army.mil (Ramez Naam) writes:

>Looking through the rest of the series, I have no idea what these
>forces and pressures might have been.  Anyone out there have any
>ideas?

The pressures of the hunt for the Prodigal followed by Desire getting a
plot to hit the target in the centre? Much speculation has centred around
Dream quitting and being replaced; I think a more difficult ending for DC
to retcon would be a circling round to the start, ending with Dream in his
glass box. Can the Endless be called through Time? Can Dream be folded back
on himself? What effects would this have?

It's not terribly practicable; still, it's a fun speculation.

Tanaqui

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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Re: Thanks
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:54:15 GMT

jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:
>cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts) writes:
>> Thanks Jim Cowling for posting the new books out this week before
>> I make to my local shop.  Its a BIG help. 
>
>I second that.  The effort he puts into these lists (no matter WHEN
>they come out) is much appreciated.

	I _third_ that e-motion!  Well done, O scowling one! 
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From: boyes@forty2.enet.dec.com (Mark Boyes)
Subject: Re: DC- Massive Vertigo Crossover
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:37:23 GMT


In article <rdippold.721282442@qualcom>, rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes...
>Anyone else notice in the latest Previews that one of the things being
>talked about for the new Vertigo line (Sandman, Hellblazer, Swamp
>Thing, etc.) is a massive intertitle crossover?
> 

So DC is going to start applying its puerile continuity and marketing 
approach to its Mature Readers titles too?

Yay! 8-)

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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: DC: John Constantine's Who's Who 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:54:40 GMT

Thanks for the listing.

I note that a large number of Constantine's friends and relatives
are dead.  Would you consider this 'coincidence' or 'bad luck'? :)

-----
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 Dad would show us a photo and ask us, "Is it a murder or a suicide?"
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From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Subject: Re: METROPOL A.D.
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:36:00 GMT


Hey! So I'm not alone out there!

Would somebody be so kind as to give me a brief summary of what happened in 
Transit and Plastic Forks? I missed those issues and I think they might
contain mighty important stuff about the current storyline. Thanks.

Majak,
of the "Voyageurs sans Permis".


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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Sandman: More Pointless Ramblings
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:53:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.055315.1858@athena.cs.uga.edu> jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck) writes:
>- It hadn't occured to me before, but the most obvious time for Delight
>  to have become Delirium would've been at the time of the Fall of Adam
>  and Eve from the Garden of Eden.  Genesis is THE big story for most of
>  the Christian Western World (I believe Cain and Abel were mentioned 
>  somewhere as being characters from "the first story," which is why they
>  show up in Dream's realm.)

Unless you want to maintain that the Fall happened at one specific date that
some cultures have calculated wrong, this idea causes multiple-culture problems.
Different religions date the Fall back to different times, which means that
there was a time when Delight was Delight for some cultures and Delirium for
others.

Worse yet, these cultures all developed the Fall myth long after the supposed
date of the Fall.  This would mean that Delight changes to Delirium based on a
mythology that doesn't exist until sometime in the future, which raises
questions like whether or not the Endless act now based on 25th century myths
about the 20th Century.  (Alternatively, developing the Fall myth changes the
past by retroactively affecting Delight's role, which is not much better.)
--
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the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

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From: rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Preludes and Nocturnes TPB
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:41:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.002143.28810@scott.skidmore.edu> jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:
>rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:
>> 	While browsing in the TPB edition of the first SANDMAN arc,
>> I noticed that the layout and art in part 4 ("A Hope in Hell") had
>> been redone at the point wherein Dream encounters Lucifer in the 
>> infernal palace.  The art is clearly not the work of Kieth -- its
>> either Dringenberg or McKean.  Can anyone give the reason this
>> sequence was altered?
>
>this sequence was not altered, that's the way it was originally
>printed.  Drinberg and keith weren't just a penciler inker team, they
>actually collaberated on the artwork.  For example, the two page
>demon spread contained in that issue is clearly not Drinberg's inks, but
>Keith's.  drinberg was in control for the sequence in question, tho.
>

	No, that's not what I was saying.  Look at issue 4 and then
look at the TPB collection of Preludes & Nocturnes.  The sequence
wherein we first see Lucifer has been completely altered.  There is
a different drawing of Lucifer, and it's not by Kieth.

Cordially,

Michael S. Rooney

"I am El Guano.  But you can call me master."
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From: lsmith@pico.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Image Leaves Malibu
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:41:59 GMT

In <1992Nov11.112846.23752@afterlife.ncsc.mil> acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:

>In article <1992Nov11.071654.1811@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>>According to Pat O'Neill (editor of Wizard) on the Comics-L mailing list,
>>Image has "amicably" parted with Malibu.  What this means for the group,
>>who knows.  O'Neill says that the chances of success of the group staying
>>viable as a loosely-affiliated group of creators is about as much as him
>>becoming king of the world...:)

This is strange. The pubilicity director for Malibu used to work at the 
local shop. This guy has been the AT&T poster child for three years
running. When I asked at the shop today they hadn't heard a thing from him.
Perhaps in the resulting chaos, he didn't have a chance to call.

>My guess is that they end up like some comics shops do:

>While they may love THE Business, they have no understanding OF
>Business. In other words, they flop because they don't have things
>like business managers and accountants.

The paperwork that Image has is astounding. Because it is creator owned,
the sale of each creator's titles must be handled separately. For example,
the local shop got about $30 (cover price) worth of comics from Image/Malibu.
This was from three different Image titles (Spawn/WildCATS/Shadowhawk I think.)
Each title had its own invoice that had to be sent separately showing how
many copies of that title had been sold. One of the clerks was estimating
that it cost close to $20 just to send all the comics and paperwork out.

I think Image is more likely to collapse due to lack of economy of scale
than from not having proper business sense.
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Eyes in "Brief Lives"
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:53:07 GMT
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In article <1992Nov7.202449.10811@cheshire.oxy.edu> rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:
>	As interesting as questions of history in the Dream-Destruction
>flashback are, we seem to be ignoring an important motif in the arc: the
>role of eyes.  Cf.: Delerium on vitreous humor, followed by Despair's
>impromptu optic surgery; the "treatise on optics" cojoined with the
>Corinthian's orang-outan work; the discussion of the eyes of the Endless
>between Del and Dream; etc.  Any thoughts?

To this list you can add:

"If the eyes are the windows of the soul, then your soul is as black..."

"I keep thinking of her eyes, toward the end. Cold eyes, weighing me 
 dispassionately, finding me wanting..."

"The bear eyes it critically. It has, to his eyes, little of his majesty;
 there is not fire in its eyes."

Plus the Prodigal seems to have taken up painting, a visual art.

I mentioned eyes when we were talking about the "return" of the Corinthian.
I still don't really have a theme that would tie it into the story. It
might just be an interesting subtheme to the theme of change, which I 
take to be at the center of this story.
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Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 23:41:05 -0500 
From: "Seth D. Kadesh" <sk2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Seventh Endless: David (was Re: Sandman #44)
	<1992Nov5.183314.12148@netcom.com>
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solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:
> In article <96220@netnews.upenn.edu> smith@bohr.physics.upenn.edu (doug smith)\
>  writes:
> >
> >Yet another meaningless detail-
> >
> >Why was the the doctor with the Orangutang singing a David Bowie song?
> 
> A Bowie reference would be far from a "meaningless detail"! But,
> alas, it's not. The anatomist was singing 
> 
>         When I am king, dilly dilly,
>         You shall be Queen.
>         Lavender's blue, dilly dilly...
> 
> Any similarity is purely coincidental... Knowing how Neil does
> his homework, I'd assume the doctor is singing an authentic
> late-seventeenth-century song.
> 
> On the other hand, that radio really is playing "Golden Years" in
> the first issue of "Miracleman: The Golden Age"...
> -- 
> Andrew M. Solovay           "Until there was rock, you only had God."
>                                         --Ziggy Stardust
> 
> #include <disclaimer.h>

i believe the song is called lavender.  or at least, there is a song
called lavender on the album _misplaced childhood_ by marillion.  the
song is based on a previously written poem (which may or may not have
been a song).  hope i didn't make things more obscure.....

and i didn't even read the comic!

  seth ---> sk2f@andrew.cmu.edu
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