From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:55:14 GMT

In article <C1837M.DDE@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
>I fully agree with the views tabled by Mr.Pramadhnanth Sastry.
>I myself was a psuedo secularist once.  But not any more.
>I regret those days.
>
>It is being increasingly evident to me that Muslims in India put
>Islam in front of the Indian constitution and do not give a damn
>about India and the sentiments of the Hindus.  If at all any

        If a particular group begins to define 'bharat' and 'hindu'
        in a particular way then those who are opposed to this particular
        view will defy. It is quite possible some muslims ( just as some
        hindus do) might 'put Isalam' ( 'put the brand of 'hinduism') 
        ahead of 'India', but to say
        "muslims" do that in general is demagoguery. Muslims are 
        forced to take a more and more anti-'hindu' ( the narrowly definded
        'hinduism') stance by the
        attrocities commited and incessant indoctrinizations 
        given by hindu fundementalists. 
        I believe that if hindu fundementalism ceases to be a force,
        muslim fundementalism also will cease.

>secularism is going on it is ONE-SIDED, ie., only the Hindus
>are being accomodative for their so called Muslim brothers, but
>the Muslims on their part interpret this kindiness as a weakness
>of the Hindu-kafirs as they call us.  They will NEVER NEVER be
>our friends as long as we are Hindus.  They do not have any good
>thoughts and do not wish well for Hinduism and Hindus.

        First, one should have faith that good and bad is not
        religio-selective. There are good and bad people in 
        every religion or region or language group. Demagoguery
        is a standard tool of racists-facists. What you say in the
        above is a very biased statement ( probably a result of
        'jai-hind wallas'; I too am jai-hind walla of the type
         ajay divakaran says; I am sad that inspiring mantras
         like jai-hind and vande madharams are misused by 
         relgious-fundementalism-encouraging political party
         wallas :-( )
>
>So enough is enough.  It is time for us to be tough and assertive and
>BJP and VHP are doing the right things for India with an eye on
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>the future.  They are not like the shameless Cong-(i) who are
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      Breaking up the country as kashmir, khalistan, tamil nadu,
      kerala, telugu naadu, assam etc. ??

>interested in placating anti-national elements for temperory gains.
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      Repeating the untruths such as your description "anti-national" 
      in the above, in the hope that
      one day it will be acepted as a truth is a well known trick
      of some well known racist regime. I think it is high time
      people like you stop labeling muslims as 'anti national',
      those who don't accept your definition of 'hindu' as 'anti national'
      etc.
       
>
>Jai-Hind                             
>Vande-mataram                         
>Garv se kaho ki hum Hindu hain
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     I believe that pride in the type of 'hindu' you advocate
     is sure to lead us to dust. Garv se kaho hum 'human-kind' hain

>Sivaram Hariharan
>

      - Selva
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