From: sinister@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Equality...
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:58:27 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1993Jan4.012327.7242@sequent.com>, rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>2-I don't care WHAT kind of training a woman has, she still cannot hit as hard
>>    as a man.
> 
> With the right training, she doesn't have to.  A good roundhouse kick
> from a woman will put down just as fast as one from a man.
	
	I agree...  The martial art I practice (full-contact) has several women
with *no* qualms or lack of ability to take a guy out of a tourney.  It only 
takes *one* well placed shot to do it.
> 
>>3-  Men have an inate behavior towards violance.....a woman would have to be
>>    trained, and the training would be too time consuming.

	You obviously have never a) really iritated and a woman in the Israeli
Defence Force (one of the guys one my ship did.... ooooohhh, what a mess :),
 or b) run into any woman with a killer instinct (modern martial arts dojos
are full of them). 


> I think too much emphasis has been put on a woman's "enate"
> disposition to perserve life.  Men have that also.  Just because we
> don't bring babies into the world, doesn't mean that we value life any
> less.
> 
> *Anyone* can be trained to kill, and will kill if put in the right
> set of circumstances, I don't care *what* they say.  You push the
> right buttons, and a woman will lean toward violence just as much as
> a man.

	In fact, it isn't "inate" that woman are no-kill tendant;  they are
simply told (or were, for a long time in modernity) that aggressiveness is
not desired in a woman.  Men are told it is.  It's just a matter of up-bringing.
In Israel, *everyone* is brought up knowing about agressiveness, combat and
war.  Everyone does basic training and 3 years in the IDF.  A lot of pretty
women toting Uzi's and Gali's over there.

> 
> I think going back and forth on this is really pointless, we are all
> agreeing on the basic ideas here, women can't funtion the same way as
> a man in a combat situation, and yes, there are some things that a
> woman just can't do.  I just don't buy that a woman will not kill
> just because she is a woman.
> 
> But by Gawd this is a stimulating thread!

	Dito.
> 
> rip
> -- 
> While having never invented a sin, I'm trying to perfect several.
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