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From: Peter.Deafy.Haskins@f37.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Peter "Deafy" Haskins)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Ideas?
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:23:26 GMT
Reply-To: Peter.Deafy.Haskins@f37.n342.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/37 - Deafy's First Post , Stony Plain Alta
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24266

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Will each Major City Deaf Residents in each state pls provide us
some information below:

1. TDD nbrs for all Deaf organizations?
2. TDD nbrs for all Relay Services ?
3. TDD nbrs for all Emergency agencies such like Police, Fire, Ambulance,FBI, Sheriff's office etc
4. TDD nbrs for all Emergency Rooms in all hospitals
5. TDD nbrs for all lawyers's
6. TDD nbrs for all Counselling to the Deaf
7. TDD nbrs for AAA, any Motor Associations etc
8. TDD nbrs for any business firms that serve the Deaf
9.TDD nbrs for Airlines, Trains, Buses, etc and any transpoaration such like Transporation for Handicapped etc
10. TDD nbrs for all Public Transits
11. TDD nbrs for all State Government offices and including Federal Government offices
12. TDD nbrs for all Interpreters services
13. TDD nbrs for all Deaf Schools, college, university and Tech schools etc.
14. TDD nbrs for all Recreation , Travellers Info centers etc
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Any Deaf TDD directories of each city in all states please send to
Peter Haskins
RR 2 Site 4 Box 99
Stony Plain Alberta
T0E 2G0
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All addresses should also be included for the above list etc with name of person contacts.

Reason why I am gathering this information as I was thinking of getting a full scale TDD Directory for all Deaf Travellers printed . I already
applied for a grant to Canadian Motor Association and American Motor
Association, Good Sam Club, Dominion Motor Association, and also to
various agencies hoping that we can publish this type of a TDD Directory for The USA and Canada. The costs of the printing that may pass down to the Deaf is a good question because we do not know the exact costs and depending on how long the listings would be . It all depends on the full co operation from all the deaf organizations that will provide information.

I firmly believe a TDD Directory for the Deaf Travellers is a must because due to our bad experience .. My wife and I went to Denver and our van broke down and e looked in the phone book for a TDD nbr to call Good Sam Club we couldnt find so I had to call home and get the nbr...Thats what made me to think seriously for a long needed TDD directory....

Any other suggestions that we should add in the TDD directory is always welcome.

Any thing that you think there should be other TDD nbrs to be added It will be always welcome and I am open to any other Suggestions.

May we hear any comments !

Regards,
Peter "Deafy" Haskins
Deafy's First Post Office

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From: Isaac.Obie@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Isaac Obie)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Acb/Nfb Feud
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:33:03 GMT
Reply-To: Isaac.Obie@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/460.0 - VI/BUG, Holbrook MA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24160

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Chris, Perkins is a very famous school for the blind in Watertown,
Massachusetts. It's where Helen Keller learned or finished her
education. I should have written it as Perkins School for the blind. At
any rate, your idea of pins popping up on the xcreen to indicate letters
or lines is exactly what the Versabraille and Navigator does. The
Versabraille is a braille computer contained in itself. Stand alone.
It's slow and has only a 32K capacity. so you can imagine how limited it
is even though it costs seven grand. The Navigator on the otherhand is
strictly a braille display unit. It comes with twenty, forty or eighty
cells or character displays. It works strictly with a computer. Alone
it's just plastic and metal and wires. No, it's not cumbersome to read
my messages in this manner cause it's the only way I *can* read them.
The Versabraille is a bit more combersome than the Navigator cause it's
older. BTW, where are you located? I am in Boston. Or Beantown as they
call it locally. I hope I won't have the versabraille too much longer. I
hope to get a second Navigator or a KTS later on. KTS is like Navigator,
but much more advanced and complex! It can read highlights and icons and
lightbars. My hesitancy is serviceability. Legimate when spending seven
grand for a piece of equipment.  Now let me tell you just in case I
haven't already. that I am blind and very hard of hearing. So, I need to
use these braille display units. I am telling you this because I am
leading up to something. remember how you said the government ought to
help with this equipment? well there's a braille TTY device which costs
$5500! Yes, fifty five hundred big buckaroos! Well in California, the
phone company provides a loaner of all this equipment to deaf/blind
folks. We just started such a program in Massachusetts. I don't intend
to take advantage of it just yet cause I do most of my phoning via
voice. I can hear just enough to carry on a conversation on the phone.
well, I hope I've clarified things a bit. See you next time..

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From: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'keeffe)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Peeking? Closer to Seeking.
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:19:41 GMT
Reply-To: Jack.O'keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24132

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 RR> referring to cochealar implants, the potential risks and
 RR> minimal gains don't strike some people as worth it. Few
 RR> experience what could be termed as a tremendous improvement.

I'd be interested in knowing any factual basis you may have for your
statement that "Few experience what could be termed as a tremendous
improvement."  (Other than the self-serving propaganda from NAD -
I've seen all that.)

 RR>  what do you know about a publication called "Voice?" I saw it
 RR>  once. I think it is or was published in Texas itself.

"Voice" has changed its name.  It is now being published under
the name "Hearing Health".  I had a nice conversation with the
publisher while in Cedar Rapids.  You're correct, it's published
in Corpus Christi, TX.

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From: Ed.Stahl@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Stahl)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: fast chairs
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:58:49 GMT
Reply-To: Ed.Stahl@f140.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/140 - Black Bag BBS, Newark DE
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24329

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 On 08-25-92 Alan Hess wrote to all...

 AH> How fast do the fastest wheelchairs go?  *adh*

        It depends on the incline, or the height of the Bungee
        Platform.
                                Ed

... OFFLINE 1.36 * THE FUTURE ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE!

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From: Mark.Munson@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Munson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Tens units, etc
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:18:45 GMT
Reply-To: Mark.Munson@f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV

Index Number: 24348

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

BO>Mark
BO>I was trying to gether some info on how long the pads seem to last. I
BO>wear in tens unit 16 hours a day. The pad are worn on my lower
BO>back. The last about 6-7 days. I found that if I use a Cleans
BO>towelet (alcohol) that will last almost twice as long. My
BO>problem is that the adheasive no long work well in the pads drop off.

BO>MM|  * SLMR 2.1a * Its not like a jock strap, its science!

Sorry, wasn't my tagline.. just forgot to change it when I replied to
your message.

OK, Notes... alcohol pads clean the rubber pad and remove conductors and
excessive oil from skin (non-conductors, in comparison).. thus all you
are really doing is cleaning them. GOOD.  When you where a stimulator
that much, you body is going to excrete oils between the conductor
(slymy stuff), and the skin..  This in my opinion is why you are loosing
conductivity over a period of time.. Otherwise and answer to one of you
main questions.. "how long do they last?" They should last longer than
you or me will live..

Mark

 * SLMR 2.1a * Bob Officer!?

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From: sferguso@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Steve Ferguson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Scr Rev and Voice Syn Info request
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:07:25 GMT
Reply-To: sferguso@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Steve Ferguson)
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23988

Greetings:
     I would like to inquire as to what the forum believes to be
the best buy for the money in the way of screen review programs and
voice synthesizers.  There seems to be a wide variety of things out
there.  What is considered low end, middle and high end price and
feature wise when considering voice synthesizers?  Which screen
review program(s) are best for driving the speech output?  I have
had experience with Echo PC and Votrax TNT in the way of voice
output.  I am also relatively familiar with Flipper (older
version), Soft Vert (older version), and now Tiny Talk.  I am
trying to help a variety of blind individuals gain access to PCs
in a variety of situations (home, college and high school).  Word
processing seems to be the task most people are trying to (or want
to) perform on their machines.

Thanks for any advice offered...Steve Ferguson/Education
Specialist/VDVH
From: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Sepke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Voice Output on PC tied
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:07:41 GMT
Reply-To: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/2 - Man-Net-EC, Winnipeg MB
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 24210

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

TO: s@ecst.csuchico.edu (Mick Shatswell)
MS>I am trying to get some information on voice output on a PC
MS>tied to a mainframe.  It was suggested to us to try McErma(sp?).
MS>Does anyone have any information re either McErma or any others?
MS>We are using a 3270 coax and are open to any board with a screen
MS>reader.

Hi.
I am a mainframe applications programmer at a large insurance company,
and so have had some experience with this.

 Here's what I have successfully used.
 An emulator called AVATAR works fine.  It has its own card
 into which the coax connects.
 I have recently moved to a LAN connection to the mainframe and after
 much fooling around, got ERMA-LAN product to work.
 The fooling around involved mapping all the special keys because ERMA-LAN
 steals the normal interupts.

  In all cases I am useing a voice package called JAWS.
  If you need more info, or company names and details, let me know.
  The biggest prolem with 3270 emulators is that are usually
  programmed in a way that they take total control of the keyboard
  interupts, and the voice software can't get its greedy little hands in
  to do what it does best.
  Just as a note: I know noone who has gotten straight ERMA to work,
  and I think the IBM Screen Reader does work with the IBM 3270
  emulator.

   Hope this is of some help... Good Luck!!

    - Glen -
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X battery low battery low (That'll wake up the BNS users!)

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From: Rick.Catania@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Catania)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Reasonable Accommodation
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:25:53 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Catania@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Able News Conference

Index Number: 24378

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

MA>Just a couple of questions since we're still all learning the
MA>ropes when it comes to ADA:

Let me add my 2 cents worth here....

First of all we're all people.... My next belief is that we all have
disabling conditions! Some more pronounced than others... As the saying
goes, "Nobody's Perfect!" We all have our limitations which may have
been brought about by a mental, physical, and even an emotional
condition. Or a combination of them.

Many of the limitations can be overcome, through individual
perseverance and/or some form of assistance. Some limitations may
require much more assistance than mankind can presently provide. We as
a group (mankind) impose so many limitations upon ourselves.

So... who has the authority to say who is "normal" or who is "disabled".
Every human being is a combination of both. We just have to admit it...
and work together to overcome mankind's greatest disabling condition,
the need to discriminate and group ourselves into categories based on
limitations.

And, in my opinion.... the ADA is a step in that direction....

MA>1) If there is no determination of mental or physical disability,
MA>   does ADA apply?

It may be the only guideline available.

MA>2) Was the transfer really "required" under ADA, or was it a
MA>   broad interpretation of the law's intent?

Considering my beliefs, it was required. If the law is to work for one,
it must work for all.

MA>Basically, it's my belief that an employer ought to do whatever
MA>is "reasonable" to keep a well-trained employee on the job since
MA>it's both more economical and more humanitarian.  That's with
MA>or without the ADA ruling.  However, after reading the parts of
MA>ADA dealing with reasonable accommodation, I wonder if things
MA>weren't too broadly interpretated in feeling that this situation
MA>fell under the scope of ADA.

Or... purposely written that way so people wouldn't fall through the
cracks and get lost in the bureaucratic jungle.

 * SLMR 2.1 #T375 * We're all different, but then again we're all the same!

 # Origin: The Special Needs BBS * Whiting, Indiana (94:2190/1)

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From: Karen.Hansen@f22.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Hansen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: PURPOSE OF THIS ECHO
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:25:20 GMT
Reply-To: Karen.Hansen@f22.n375.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/22 - Ken's BBS, Montgomery AL
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 24272

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hi, Vixen!  This is my first time on this echo, and your message to Fel was
the first one I saw.  I also have chronic fluid in my ears and have a
hearing loss because of it.  I am fortunate because as long as they keep
tubes in my ears, they are pretty much okay.  They think a lot of it is due
to allergies but I've been through shots and everything, and none of that
helped the fluid.  My husband has a severe hearingoss and wears a Xomed
implant hearing aid, though it doesn't help very much.  I'm curious as to
whether or not you drive.  If so, does your hearing problem affect your
driving?  My husband had a lot of wrecks before he got his hearing aid
(usually aleast one major one per year).  After he got his hearing aid his
driving improved, but here lately he has been having accidents again. I
wonder if it's because of his hearing.  Hope to hear from you soon!

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From: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org (Kathleen Mcintosh)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: General Interest
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:12:02 GMT
Reply-To: Kathleen.Mcintosh@f181.n264.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:264/181 - Les's Corner BBS, Richmond VA

Index Number: 24020

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Hi Shelby!  I can tell you some things about releiving cancer pain
as I an expert at it.  Narcotics work pretty good and you don't have
to worry about addiction because the brain uses them differently
when taken for pain as for say, recreational use.  I was on a
maximum dose for over a year and was able to stop with no problems.
It's also an interesting fact that non-steriodals like ibuprofen can
be just as effective as narcotics.  The key here is to take the
drugs on a regular schedule.  I used to get up in the middle of the
night to take them so I would'nt wake up in pain.  If you wait to
take your meds until you're hurting, it will take longer for pain
relief, and it won't last as long.
If you are in the hospital and are dependent on the nurses for
giving you pain meds, here is an interesting fact.  Most medical
people have been trained to assess the amount of a patient's pain by
their reaction to it.  Thank goodness this is being recognized as
unreliable as some people like me don't show pain even when it is
excruciating.  If you do find yourself in a situation where they
look for a reaction, my suggestion is give them one! Cry, moan,
scream even, because it's not worth lying there in pain.  Conversly,
you can rate your pain on a scale of one to ten and keep your nurses
advised.  Too many people suffer from pain in the hospital because
they are too intimidated to ask for drugs!  Don't let this happen to
you or anyone you love.  :)
        Hugs and good health,
             Kathleen

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From: spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: HR 5450 To repeal ADA, any info?
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:04:28 GMT
Reply-To: spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Macrae)
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

Index Number: 24095

The latest issue of the Federal Acquisition report has one line of
information regarding House Resolution 5450.  It describes the
legislation "To repeal teh Americans with Disabilities Act."

Does anyone have further information on this resolution?  Who
introduced it?  What does it actually do?  To which committee
was it introduced?  Who chairs that committee?  Who is running
against the Representative who introduced the legislation so I
can donate to the contenders campain?

Greg MacRae
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                             |           The bull watching
  spgreg@mars.lerc.nasa.gov  |             The torreador.
                             |                      -MacRae
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From: Bruce.Couper@p0.f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Bruce Couper)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: cellular phone rates
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:53:34 GMT
Reply-To: Bruce.Couper@p0.f401.n229.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:229/401.0 - The Connection HST!, Oshawa ON

Index Number: 24106

 -=> Quoting Jean-Pierre Beland to Bruce Couper <=-

 JB> Cantel has a special rate for person with disabilities for their
 JB> cellular phone.  I heard about this last year.  If I remember
 JB> correctly there is no installation cost and a lower monthly rate.  I
 JB> don't have more information as I was not planning on purchasing a
 JB> cellular phone.  I have a dealer near me, so I can inquire there if
 JB> you or someone else needs more info.

Thanks for the info Jean-Pierre.  I could also inquire, I am sure.  I
did not know that there was a special rate.  I will call right now...
hold on....

OK, here's what I was told... There _are_ special rates for persons with
disabilities, the requirement being that the applicant be a member of
the Canadian Paraplegic Association.  Cantel will waive the installation
fee and provide an addition 30 minutes of free air time to the standard
30, making 60 minutes a month free.  Current rate is 50 cents/min for
next 90 minutes.  The monthly connect fee is $29.95.

I tried to be careful copying this down, but one should check with
Cantel to be sure before buying.

Still rather too expensive for me, Jean-Pierre.

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From: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: MS/HELP/Fatigue
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:26:22 GMT
Reply-To: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.3 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA

Index Number: 24068

 AF> the best policy. Now I dont know. Also I need a physical for the job
 AF> can they fire you on the grounds of what they find from it? My hardest

Assuming the employer is subject to the employment provisions of the ADA (i.e.
25 or more employees, not a religious organization, etc.) they could do so
only if the examination results specifically indicated that you were truly
unable to perform the job (fair enough).  This determination specifically
CANNOT be made on the basis of stereotype judgment (e.g. "nobody with MS can
do this job"); it has to be made on an individual basis.

They would NOT be able to fire you simply because you had MS, or because you
didn't tell them about (you can't be compelled to provide information about a
disability before being hired).  On the other hand, if you need accomodations,
the ADA specifies that it's your responsibility to ask for them, which may
involve explaining more about your disability.  Because it's your
responsibility, the ADA protects you from retaliation resulting from your
exercising this responsibility.

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From: Wayne.Briggs@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Briggs)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Visitor needed
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:12:51 GMT
Reply-To: Wayne.Briggs@p0.f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109.0 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 24236

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

There is a book by a married woman with apparently same surgery. I read
it a month ago & forgot the name. However, our local library in Abilene,
Texas had it on their electronic card catalogue under amputee.Good luck!

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From: Mark.Munson@p0.f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Munson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Parenting support network
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:14:32 GMT
Reply-To: Mark.Munson@p0.f14.n279.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/14.0 - Project Enable, Dunbar WV
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 24243

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

EM>Does anyone know of any self-help support group or network anywhere on
EM>our planet for women, who have a physical disability or chronic
EM>illness condition, who are contemplating or have already become
EM>new parents?

Not for women, but I have had experience as a father.  I am an
incomplete l1 para who for 3+ years thought I would not have kids but
now have one more.

EM>We've had a few callers asking for such information, one or two of whom
EM> are interested in starting a local group, but don't want to
EM>re-invent the wheel if they can learn from others have already
EM>done it elsewhere. Thanks for any leads or resources on this subject.
EM>- Ed at the American Self-Help Clearinghouse

I had (have) a friend in Washington State (an RN) who did a study on
this) for her masters. She called me for an interview a year or two ago
and haven't heard since.

If I can help on any specific questions on raising (my experiences) or
otherwise.... please let me know.

Mark

 * SLMR 2.1a * Darn,... It did work!

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