HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: 60's tolerance
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:55:44 GMT

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:

> Yeah, the 60's sucked and the nostalgia for the 60's really makes me
>puke... :-)

   I guess I could consider myself lucky for having spent most of my teen
years in the 1980's. Now that's one decade no sensible person can feel
nostalgic for.

"i should be so lucky lucky lucky lucky i should be so lucky in love"
(repeat 400 times)

   Unfortunately, narcotic drugs were not available at that time.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
From: leonard@thales.tmc.edu (Dave Leonard)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: drug dog
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:56:10 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst, Dept. Math & Stats
NNTP-Posting-Host: thales.math.umass.edu

        My notes indicate that the pheromone associated with a female
dog in estrus is  methyl _para_ hydroxy benzoate.  Can anyone verify
this?  It would negate the usefulness of a 'drug dog' without causing
any harm to the animal simply by being sprayed all over everything.
 
-mdl
(no sig)
From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 8 Jan 1993 09:46:09 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

midnite@milton.u.washington.edu (Midnite Wombat) writes:

>The other incredibly annoying fact is that they weigh the paper and claim
>that as the actual drug weight, yet they still use the weight of LSD alone
>to base the quantity on. A sheet of acid probably weighs around a gram (I'm
>just making a random guess here, but it has to be close)..and using 100ug as
>the dosage, that's 10,000 hits worth of acid. Yet, the sheet only contains
>100 hits worth of LSD. I've known that they weighed the paper for a while,
>but it still pisses me off. I wonder how this has gone on so long without
>being overruled in court..it's just completely insane.
						^^^^^^

Yes, it _is_ true that LSD makes people insane. Fortunately, 
LSD users are generally not affected.

Maintain your sanity -- drop acid.

-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   +61 3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 9 Jan 1993 08:24:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



I believe some of you are being unfair to that doctor on
48 hours, Dr. Jacobson or something.

He is the doctor who first claimed decades ago that LSD
damages chromosomes and what he did was, in recent years
created his own Covert Sperm Bank (i.e. in the jeans, er
genes) and his only sincere purpose since of course 
===he=== has never taken LSD, to make absolutely sure
that none of those women gave birth to a
chromo wacked child since all the husbands and other
possible donors could have and prob did do acid at one
time or another....

The DEA has found a new job for him: he will be training
drug dogs to be sexually attracted to acid heads.

-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Date: 6 Jan 1993 08:11:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



>Our school recently decided that we will have a drug dog.
>Supposedly, it can smell just about anything, no matter how
>much you cover it up. I seriously doubt this.  I have heard
>that coffee will hide the smell, and I am wondering if this
>is true.  Also, what else will hide things from the dog?
 
First off, dogs in general have better senses of smell than 
humans.  In fact, they can smell up to 1 billionth of a gram 
of cocaine.  Even though a concentration of at least 1 
millionth of a gram is necessary for scientific cause to 
assume that drugs are nearby or have been nearby the located 
object.
 
But I digress.  Also, marijuana has a lasting smell which 
wafts along as quick as the breeze carrying it.
 
Strong scents designed to annoy the dog will cover most 
drug scents, but the dog will locate the strong scent anyway, 
so don't store your marijuana next to the mace.
 
What you could do is "jam" the dog's sense of smell.  Like a 
radar jammer broadcasts radar waves to wipe out a radar 
screen.  Like a blizzard making it difficult to see.
 
If you have access to drugs--perish the thought! ;-)--use a 
little bit on every inch of the hallways and rooms.  If you 
don't, it is possible to get "pseudo drugs" which drug dogs 
are trained on, and perform the same maneuver.  Do this 
after every janitorial cleaning, and the dog will smell drugs 
regardless of where s/he is in the school.  This will prevent 
the dog from telling which scent is a real stash, and which 
scent is merely background "static".
 
Unfortunately, this will cause the dog great pain.  Imagine 
having to live with tear gas in your general vicinity; this is 
how the dog will be reacting.  So it all depends on whether 
you really want to store your drugs on school property, or 
don't mind using off school property to save the dog a "job 
hazard".
 
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Subject: 48 Hours... let the cascade begin
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:53:30 GMT

Well, the show is finishing up right now and I must say that it has been 
interesting.  One thing that I realize is that alt.drugs gives people the
pure "pro drugs" attitute whereas the media gives the pure "anti drugs"
attitude to the public.  Somewhere inbetween lies the truth.

The story's showing people who actually are still tripping after 15 years were
accurate.  These people are* heavy users, but friends of mine report the same
effects after only 100 doses (so far).

There are* consequences for taking any* recreational pharmacological agent, and
acid is not a lightweight in the genre... so just be careful.

Sorry about my spelling.

Let the onslaught begin! 

 


-- 
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Right thoughts produce right actions and right actions produce work which will
be a material reflection for others to see of the serentity at the center of it
all." - Robert M. Pirsig  "Ride the surf of the sea of neuron activity." - Me
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: God and alcohol
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:41:38 GMT

j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Joe) writes:
: In article <1993Jan5.191818.22119@linus.mitre.org>,
: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) wrote:
: > Parents: "I'm sorry, Milo, but we sent your college fund in to Reverend Jim."
: > 
: > Rev. Jim (on TV): "You must have *faith* that God will take care of you. 
: >     Everything will work out.  Send me that money in your checking account!
: >     Sell that second car!  Re-finance your house!  Don't you owe it to God?
: 
: Please save your bitter and paranoid perspective of religion for
: alt.atheism.

Why? I enjoyed it. It is appears to be very much to the point about
televangelists. If you are a devout Christian, then you should not
be sending them money, you should be considering them to be Satan's
spawn. They certainly are greedy and hypocritical enough.

: Your little scenario here which you use to condemn all those that believe
: in 
: God is quite like the anti-drug propagandists stating that all those who
: ingest
: LSD will jump out of a window. 

Ok, show us a televangelist swine that does not beg for your money. Show
us one who ask you to send only what you can easily spare.

His scenario only included the tv slime - and those foolish enough to
believe them. The was not commenting on other Christians.

Bill
From: remke@cs.tu-berlin.de (Jan K. Remke)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: HEROIN (All kinds of Info needed)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 08:46:03 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: athene.cs.tu-berlin.de
Keywords: QUESTION

Hi folks out there.
I need EVERY POSSIBLE INFORMATION about HEROIN.
That means historical, physical, chemical, and whatever.
Please send your replies personnally to me instead of any followups.
I need the Information very, very, URGENT !!! So, please help me.

Greetings from a dutchman living in berlin, FRG:
Jan

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:16:11 CST
From: <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: 20/20 report on radar border patrols

Did anybody see the report on 20/20 about the radar balloons on the
Mexican border that are used to track drug planes?  It seemed to me to
be anti-WoD in its analysis.  So far no convictions as a result of this
2 billion dollar project(correct if my figures are wrong).  Of course,
the government spokesman(again, correct me if wrong) said that more money
should be pumped into the program since the evidence that the program is
working is that nobody has been arrested because drug smugglers have been
detered by the program(which in fact is not true).
Anyways, it seems to me that the media is starting to be critical of the
WoD.  4 recent shows lead me to believe this.
1) 60 minutes of the legalized heroin and cocain for addicts in Britain.
2) Peter Jennings report on the drug war in Bolivia(?)
3) 48 hours report on LSD (which didn't feed us the usual crap)
4) 20/20 report on the border radar.
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:12:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1993Jan3.130252.46058@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> lerner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Our school recently decided that we will have a drug dog.  Supposedly,
>it can smell just about anything, no matter how much you cover it up.
>I seriously doubt this.  I have heard that coffee will hide the smell,
>and I am wondering if this is true.  Also, what else will hide things
>from the dog?
>

I seriously doubt it could smell anything in a good thermos in a
refrigerator.

-Howard


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: dart@toccata.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:51:37 GMT

>>	Is it possible, thus, for UL's, or BULLSHIT or whatever, to AFFECT the
>>actuality of the current situation?
>
>Nope.  Just as it is unlikely for the truth to affect ULs, or BULLSHIT, or
>whatever, as has been amply demonstrated both on the net and in the outside
>"real" world (a/k/a "The Big Room").

	Foolish Call.  Dubbing somehting impossible is idiotic.  I think i will
get some acid and attach some (completely functionless) rat poison and sell
it to someone just because you said it is impossible for an UL to affect real
life.

>
>Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and plain dealing.

	Common Sense is that which tells men the world is flat.
					-- Principia Discordia

							Sean

--
Sometimes you can feel the fish
And then it slips away
Things aren't always what they seem
In North Hawaii
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Why Marines like LSD...
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:56:42 GMT

Seeing the military reference reminded me - a few years ago I heard from a
friend in the military, I think a Marine, though I seem to recall he was 
talking about being shipbound - according to him the drug of choice in
the military was doing LSD! The reasoning was that it was harder to detect
that pot or other things. Somehow the idea of a bunch of guys stuck on 
a ship with a pile of weapons tripping their gonads off sorta scares me...
For that matter, the idea of anyone willing to commit to the military 
doing LSD sorta scares me.

  - Malcolm
From: drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: rules for LSD
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:26:03 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <726201680.AA00091@ship.wimsey.bc.ca>, Diva@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Diva) writes:
> I first tried LSD almost five years ago...and I remember I was told of a few
> simple rules to remember when your high. I admit it is possible one could get
> so high that they could not remember these rules, but they are a good idea
> nonetheless. Here they are:
> 1) Cars can hurt you.
> 2) You cannot fly.
> 3) Its never a good time to die.

I had a friend tell me the four things to remember:


      " 1) cars are real.
        2) you can't fly
        3) taking you clothes off will draw attention.
        4)  ... and I forget the fourth thing           "

                                    -- Kevin Boden (bartender @ the joynt)


-- Danny



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dwdyer@eskimo.com (Wayne Dyer)
Subject: Re: Mescaline from toluene
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:15:46 GMT

Well, think about this:  aspartame can be converted to amphetamine.

aspartame is a dipeptide, phenylalanine and the methylester of aspartic acid.
split the peptide bond, recover the phenylalanine, and knockthe -COOH to
-CH3, and you have it.  Problem is -- you'd need to make sure you don't do
something to racemize the product, and -- map it out and see what the 
procedure would do to the methyl aspartate -- one method I came up with 
converted it into a nasty pesticide. :-)
 

-- 
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dwdyer@eskimo.com ||  The will to a system is a lack of integrity."  F.W.N.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: an4936@anon.penet.fi
Subject: HBWR - Routes of administration
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:16:00 GMT

I recently tried a new route of administration for Hawiian Baby Wood Rose
seeds.  Why?  Eating works fine, except for the unfortunate side effect that my
stomach is so tight I don't want to eat, drink, or move.

I tried the enema method recommended by a previous poster.  It was
dissappointing.  I ground ten seeds and blended them for an hour in distilled
water.  Then I filtered the sludge out and used a home enema kit to put the
brown juice up my ass.  I left it there for about ten minutes.  About half an
hour later, I felt a little something like a trip, but it quickly went away.

So what is my new method?  Chewing -- like tobacco.  I chewed six seeds without
spitting or swallowing for 15 minutes, then gagged and spit them out.  I
tripped about as hard as I would expect from eating four seeds, but with much
diminished side effects.  After the first hour I felt like drinking beer and
dancing (the don't-move period lasts three hours if I swallow the seeds).  

My next experiment is to treat them *exactly* like tobacco, using a spittoon. 
Maybe I can chew them that way for 30 minutes or more.  They are fairly cheap,
so doubling the quantity is not a problem.

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From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: Kid on 48 Hours
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:38:33 GMT

In <1993Jan8.192600.22472@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rbb3w@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Robert B. Bohn) writes:


>About that kid on 48 Hours who unfortunately mailed the LSD to his *friend*,
>I'm assuming that the guy was out-of-state. So that being the case, would his 
>punishment be necessarily different had he mailed it to somebody that lived
>in the same state? I know that once you cross state lines, the Feds start
>to get in the action.

>					Just curious,
>						Bob Bohn
Selling LSD is a Class A FELONY. I don't think it makes any differnce
whether you cross state lines or not.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk (Andy Settle)
Subject: Re: drug dog 
Distribution: world
Organization: Journeyman Limited
Reply-To: journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:15:46 +0000

In article <jah.726454400@mits> jah@mits.mdata.fi writes:

>   I am under the impression that drug dogs are trained to react to specific
>drugs....

Probably close to the truth. There is at least (in the UK) the
concept of a 'body' dogs, 'track' dogs and a 'drug' dogs. 'Drug'
dogs are trained for mainly heroin, cannabis and cocaine. During
training the dogs progress is monitored and it's final deployment
is based on these records. So, if a dog can indicate cocaine
accurately then it's probably used for that, if it's an
'all-rounder' then its used as such; Dogs are like people IYSWIM.

> I doubt that Finnish drug dogs are trained to smell MDMA or even LSD
>- even if they were able to - due to their scarcity on the illegal market.

I'm not aware of any attempts to train law enforcement dogs in
Europe for either substance. Having said that your scarcity
argument is flawed, i've been reliably lead to believe MDMA and
LSD are far from scarce.

>   In a nutshell: at least pack them air-tight, especially LSD as it is so
>sensitive to oxidisers and light.

Vacuum sealing is also a good idea - wrapped in baking foil and
buried at the bottom of the garden.

>
>   By the way, I recall reading somewhere that drug dogs can smell a drug
>hidden in an air-tight container in a full gasoline tank. This is a little
>hard to believe.

Tis hard to believe.

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From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: RSA sucks (Re: PGP warning (ooo; I am scared))
Date: 4 Jan 1993 07:28:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>As to the substance, the yelling and screaming at MIT, RSA,
>etc. is both useless and irrelevant. Foard's complaint, as he
>himself realizes by the end of the message, is either with
>patent law or with the patent office. Since nobody here is
>empowered to change either, Foard should take his complaint
>to someone who can do something about it. For starters, he
>might try his local Congressperson and let us know how he
>makes out.
 
His posting is hardly irrelevant, since if it is then most of 
"alt.drugs" is also irrelevant as most of us are not capable 
of directly changing drug laws.
 
If everyone was busy writing their Congresscritters and had no 
time to post here, there would be no rapid transport of drug 
and drug law information, hence lesser quality letters to 
Congresscritters.
 
So his posting is hardly irrelevant, as he makes a better case 
if everyone reading him sends a letter, as compared with him 
BY HIMSELF sending a letter.  Like every other drug issue that 
has been hashed to death here...
 
-- 
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DISCLAIMER: Everything I say is false, including this sentence.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug dog
From: epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:56:57 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <RODNEY.93Jan6141824@cabot.balltown.cma.com>, rodney@cabot.balltown.cma.com (Rodney Peck) writes:
> In article <1ie47iINNd29@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler) writes:
>    Unfortunately, this will cause the dog great pain.  Imagine 
>    having to live with tear gas in your general vicinity; this is 
>    how the dog will be reacting.  So it all depends on whether 
>    you really want to store your drugs on school property, or 
>    don't mind using off school property to save the dog a "job 
>    hazard".
>     
> I think you miss the point.  It's not so much that people are now
> inconvenienced by not being able to keep drugs in their lockers, but
> their civil rights are being violated by an illegal search.  Odds are,


> there are at least a few students in the school who have nothing to do
> with any sorts of illegal drugs.  The police, the school, and the dog
> have no right to bother these students.

There's no description for the retarded hilariousity I had when I read that.
In my mind that can be paraphrased "Drivers who obey the speed limit should
not have to be bothered by the extra traffic of all those police cars"
give me a break.




> 
> The question boils down to giving away another aspect of privacy to
> protect the good society from the "evil scourge of drugs".
> 
> 
-- 

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
From: joann@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on abortifacents
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:05:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.220227.20159@news.cs.indiana.edu> "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>In article <aww3wB2w164w@tweekco.uucp> alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard) writes:
>>Abortion is still legal in the USA, and is probably available at
>>local student health centers (posted from Purdue) and women's
>>health centers (available by referral, probably) ... you should
>
>Deciding what information is "safe" for the ignorant masses to have
>free access to, eh? 

I suspect it's just people cringing at the thought that anybody would
trust their life to what they read on the net.

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joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
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