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From: rudolph@unixg.ubc.ca (Christopher E Rudolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: 4D 4SALE!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:10:12 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Summary: I have 4D for sale (the newest version) for the cheap price of 350.00.
Keywords: 4D sale cheap

I am selling my recently purchased 4D for a very good price (in Canadian Dollars at that) only $350.00 cdn.

This is the most recent version and I am willing to pay UPS shipping (ground) to anywhere in Canada or the NW United States ie(Washington, Oregon etc...) This is because I live in Vancouver, BC Canada.

If anyone if interested please e-mail me at rudolph@unixg.ubc.ca or phone me at (604) 222-2853.

This is a really good deal, so do wait to long....

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From: brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj)
Subject: Re: Helix users, sound off!
Reply-To: brekshyn@shearson.com
Organization: Ordinatio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:19:53 GMT

Hi,

  And when is RUNTIME-Helix Express really coming out?!


					Bohdan



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In article 22882@venera.isi.edu, jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
>
>I'm writing an article on Helix express, and I'd like to have any
>concerns, kudos or comments about the product that you'd like to get
>off your chest.
>
>Post here or email me at jas@isi.edu
>
>Thanks,
>
>jas
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: willson@seas.gwu.edu (Stephen R. Willson)
Subject: Restricting selection
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:49:12 GMT

    Monday's baseball expansion draft got me thinking about a database
question.  During at least the first round of the draft, no more than one
player from each team could be taken by Tampa or Denver.  If I for some
reason had setup a database of all the players eligible for the draft, how
could I implement this restriction.  If one player from the Boston Red Sox
has already been selected, how could I lock out selecting a second player
from the Red Sox?  Does a database program exist that makes such
restrictions easy to implement?  One particular application which I am
interested in is evaluating economic proposals which are either mutually
exclusive, mutually dependent, or mutually independent of other proposals.
 Does anyone have experience with designing a database for such an
application?

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 15:31:21 EST
From: <IO92668@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Info about 4D Compiler wanted

I am currently using Serius to develop a inventory management system for
a friend who is opening a store.  I was wondering if it would be easier
and/or better to do it in 4D and then compile it.

If I buy 4D and the compiler can I compile the database application
and sell it as a standalone product or can I only charge for the
service I have provided.  I assume that the 4D compiler does
make standalone 4D apps.

Mark Leaman
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:42:09 -0500 
From: William Matthew Beaver <wb1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Disabling 4D objects (was: Disabling Layout Objects)


Is there a way to disable a layout object such as a thermometer or dial?
 I want to have a layout in which the user selects a radio button (ex:
Yes) and the thermometer in the layout is disabled.   If the No button
is selected, then I want the termometer the be activated again.  Does
anyone have any ideas on how to do this?  I tried the DISABLE BUTTON
command but this obviously does not work since the object is not a
button.
 
Also, how do you set the radio button default? In the BEFORE phase of the
layout?  I want the yes button to be selected automatically (thus
deactivating the thermometer until the user selects NO).
 
ANY ideas are welcome.   
 
Thanks in advance.
 
William Beaver
Carnegie Mellon University

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: bwolfe@trentu.ca (BEN WOLFE)
Subject: FileMaker Pro Templates by ftp?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:24:00 GMT

Are there any?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby)
Subject: Re: 4d exporting 1...n records
Organization: 3M Company
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:11:47 GMT

In article <0f1MjUK00VIGA1nGIg@andrew.cmu.edu> dt1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Tsai) writes:
>Hello again,	
>	Is there any way to export only seletected records to an ascii file so
>that my client can use that file to email to another department?

If you want to try out my solution to this problem, check out my
hand-built Export Dialog.  You can find it on ftp.scri.fsu.edu in the
directory /pub/4d.  This is one dialog/one procedure solution to the
question "Why can't I call the built-in 4D Export dialog from the
language?" 

My dialog gives you a choice of any file in the database, any exportable
field in the selected file, and your own ordering for fields.  I also
allow the user to Display the selected records and Search for a new set
of records.

I'm playing around with adding an Import option to the dialog, and will
send it up to ftp.scri.fsu.edu when I've got it done.

    Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: dlong@uiuc.edu (dave long)
Subject: Re: Omnis screen size
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: ccso
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:26:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.012224.10618@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
ajiang@lonestar.utsa.edu (Alexander X. Jiang) wrote:
> 
> In article <92319.223802SJD9@psuvm.psu.edu> <SJD9@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >With Omnis 7, how can you determine the screen size that a user
> >has?
> >
> I can't remember exactly, but it's one of the sys functions (sys4?) that does
> this.  But if you're just try to center a window or things like that, you
> can check centered when use open window.

One caveat I'd like to point out...  when I do this on my 2-montor setup,
the window gets neatly centered within the entire display space.  That's
right, the window is half on one screen and half on another.  I haven't
figured out a fix for this, but evidently Blyth has, at least internally--
their "about" box no longer comes up neatly split across my two screens,
but instead centered in my "main" monitor!

dave long                      dlong@uiuc.edu          "quack!"
computing and communications services office
university of illinois, urbana-champaign
** the university is not responsible for what i say **
** i have my own opinions **
From: WHITESR@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Steve White         )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FMP 2.0,Panorama 2.0,or Works 3.0 ->Word 5.1a Merge?
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:36:33 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
NNTP-Posting-Host: conrad.appstate.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I have a database in Works 2.0 and I need to decide
whether to upgrade to Works 3.0 or perhaps move to
Panorama 2.0 or FMP 2.0. The event precipitating
this decision is my recent upgrade to sys 7.0x in
32-bit mode to use my 17 meg on an Si. Works 2.0
is not 32-bit clean.

I have played with Panorama 2.0 some, and I like its speed
and its apparent ability to export data in a variety
of text formats that can be readily used by Word 5.1a's
Print Merge utility. On the other hand, I am a registered
FM II user with an opportunity to upgrade to FMP 2.0
for $89. I also am unimpressed with Panorama's apparent 
inability to read the first row of an import file as the 
field names. Will FMP 2.0 do this?

The ability to exchange data and field names with Word 5.1a
is my most immediate concern, but of course I will use the
database for many other purposes, eg to store the results
of library research.

In summary, here are my Qs:
1. Is there a way to get Panorama 2.0 to read the first
row of an imported file as field names for a new database?

2. Will FMP 2.0 read the first row of an imported file
as field names for a new database?

3. Can you easily export FMP 2.0 data with the first row
as field names? A choice of tab, comma, . . . delimted data?

4. Is Panorama 2.0 or FMP 2.0 powerful and user friendly enough
to do form letters within them?

5. How is FMP's speed, eg with selects and sorts, compared with
FMP's?

6. Any troublesome bugs in either?

7. Should I be considering yet a 3d application?

Any thoughts on any of these Qs are appreciated!

Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: cicone@uieea.ece.uiuc.edu
Subject: Solved: FMP blank fields
Organization: University of Illinois 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:54:22 GMT

 Thanks to a suggestion from Peter (gergely@cs.dal.ca) I found that:

		If ( datefield <ne> "", this, orthis)

works (where <ne> is the not equal sign) even if nothing has been entered in
the datefield.  I was unable to find a numerical comparator that would work if
the datefield did not have a value entered into it.

--Bob--

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Tim <dhlx@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: ThinkPattern 2.0
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19: 58:15 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: lt10@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell Engineering School
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:55:07 GMT

Does anyone know when will ThinkPattern 2.0 be released?

Thanks

lt10@cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: rswanson@zeus (Roger Swanson)
Subject: FMPro 2.0 date search question
Organization: U of Illinois
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:57:32 GMT

I was wondering if someone could help me in designing the following search fo
r FMPro 2.0:

I want to perform a search initially by a given name in a field, but I want 
the search to finish so that it only gives the last five records entered under
this name. I have every record automatically time stamped when it is created.
Is there an easy way I can have a script search out the last five records
added based on the name from the current record being browsed, so that a
report could be printed out with only these five entries? Any help someone 
could give me on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Roger Swanson
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: FMPro 2.0 date search question
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:56:20 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

rswanson@zeus (Roger Swanson) writes:

>I want to perform a search initially by a given name in a field, but I want 
>the search to finish so that it only gives the last five records entered under
>this name. I have every record automatically time stamped when it is created.
>Is there an easy way I can have a script search out the last five records
>added based on the name from the current record being browsed, so that a
>report could be printed out with only these five entries? Any help someone 
>could give me on this would be greatly appreciated.

    I don't think this is possible. What you need is the ability to have
conditional statements in your find request, and that capability is out
of FileMaker Pro's range.

--
-Brian V. Hughes
	"You're built too low! The fast ones go right over your head."
					   --Foghorn Leghorn
From: hagood@vaxmom.scri.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: 4D Anonymous FTP
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:11:58 GMT
Reply-To: hagood@scri.fsu.edu
Organization: Supercomputer Research

In article <1992Nov18.173637.12334@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Leslie.G.Wardwell@dartmouth.edu (Leslie G. Wardwell) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone could post anonymous ftp sites containing any
>public 4D externals, examples, tips, etc.
>
>Thanks in advance
>

There is a public 4d archive at ftp.scri.fsu.edu.  Look
in the /pub/4d directory.

--Larry
From: ajiang@lonestar.utsa.edu (Alexander X. Jiang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Omnis screen size
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:22:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Nov16.012224.10618
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <92319.223802SJD9@psuvm.psu.edu> <SJD9@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>With Omnis 7, how can you determine the screen size that a user
>has?
>
I can't remember exactly, but it's one of the sys functions (sys4?) that does
this.  But if you're just try to center a window or things like that, you
can check centered when use open window.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: thingles@alexander.cs.umn.edu (Jamie Thingelstad)
Subject: Re: FileMaker Runtime Suggestion
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.133027.20972@DIALix.oz.au> dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent) writes:
>Way back at the original (West Australian) FM Pro release I raised the 
>runtime issue with the Claris guy.
>
>He replied that it had been the subject of bitter "religious wars" wihtin
>Claris and was a closely-lost decision.

This is too bad, a runtime would be VERY beneficial to me and quite a
few other users to be sure.

>Looks like nothing much has changed in the last 2 years...

Even better though would be a server that would actually tax the computer
it is running on. Ever notice how you can be sharing a database,
have 10 to 20 people accessing it, and you are just flying. It would
be very nice to have a server that would use the machine it was on
to the fullest.

Of course, making it a client-server program would tightly inflict on
the Ma & Pa database of the latest movies, maybe its time for

                           Filemaker Industrial v1.0v1

heh.. I wish..

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: Thomas_W._Martin@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:50:06 EST
Subject: 4-D or FMP for research notes?

I am a graduate student in clinical psychology and
have to write a number of research papers in the
course of my studies.  In the past I have been using
the outliner program MORE from Symantec to organize
my research notes, various drafts and the final
paper.  As you can imagine this becomes quite
cumbersome as the size of the project grows. I have
begun to think about writing my dissertation and I
need to utilize an approach that is more efficient
and productive.  Some have suggested that I try a
relational database program like 4th Dimension while
others have said that 4-D is too complicated and
will take too long to learn and that I should try
something cheaper and less complicated like
FileMaker Pro. However the cost of the program will
not be the deciding factor in this decision for me.

It seems to me that the relational qualities of 4th
Dimension would be ideal for organizing a large
written project using many sources.  Has anyone who
is reading this had experience using 4-D as a
database for research notes and editing them to form
the final document? How difficult is it to set up
4-D to take advantage of its features in such a
project?  Thanks in advance for sharing your
thoughts and experiences. Tom Martin
twm@world.std.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Distribution: world
From: John_M._Berliner@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:05:58 PST
Subject: Easy FM Pro Question

This is surely a most rudimentary FAQ, and I must be stupid. Now then:

I have a field for a vendor code. I have a field for a part number. Together
(concatenated) they must be unique. How do I check when the user enters these
two fields that the result of their concatenation (&) is unique, while the
individual field entries themselves will not need to be unique?

Ex:  Vendor Code A1
      Part No. 666

Neither A1 nor 666 should be tested for uniqueness, but A1-666 should. How?
Easy, right? Thanks in advance

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From: cjk@cislabs.pitt.edu (Carl J Kuzmich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Help which database
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:23:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi all need your help.

A user here on campus wants a mac database that will allow him to orgainize his
jpeg images. He wants to be able to view them before he opens them entirely. 

Is FileMaker Pro the answer here, or am I way off base?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: rgaros@bio.vu.nl (Rene G.A. Ros)
Subject: Re: Disabling 4D objects (was: Disabling Layout Objects)
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:22:37 GMT

wb1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Matthew Beaver) writes:
: 
: Is there a way to disable a layout object such as a thermometer or dial?
:  I want to have a layout in which the user selects a radio button (ex:
: Yes) and the thermometer in the layout is disabled.   If the No button
: is selected, then I want the termometer the be activated again.  Does
: anyone have any ideas on how to do this?  I tried the DISABLE BUTTON
: command but this obviously does not work since the object is not a
: button.

You can try to use two pages in the layout. Make them identical except for
the object you want to hide. Use GOTO PAGE() to move to another page base
on that button. You can also use GOTO AREA() to go to the button on the
other page, otherwise the text cursor goes to the first object in the entry
order.
It's not a eligant way but it works. It's up to you.
You should try to keep the number of commands executed in the DURING phase
even more to a minimum.

Another way is to set the color to the same color as the background. It
works nice if you want a button not only to be disabled but completely
invisible. I don't know if this works for thermometers.

: Also, how do you set the radio button default? In the BEFORE phase of the
: layout?  I want the yes button to be selected automatically (thus
: deactivating the thermometer until the user selects NO).
myButton := 1   sets a button
When comparing you can also use these values (1 and 0)

:  
: ANY ideas are welcome.   
:
This idea is the only one I can think of, hope you can use it.

:  
: Thanks in advance.
:  
: William Beaver
: Carnegie Mellon University
: 
Your welcome.

Rene

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rgaros@bio.vu.nl                    rgaros@nikhefk.nikhef.nl
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My English is niet very well en ook nog not so snel,
but that comes later wel.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: stevea@zeus.bony.com (Steve Albin)
Subject: Re: Labels in Double Helix
Keywords: label helix
Organization: The Bank of New York
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:36:41 GMT

In article <schultz.722107825@pv343f.vincent.iastate.edu> schultz@iastate.edu (Jonathan R Schultz) writes:
>I'm helping out as friend who is printing labels on a LaserWriter from 
>Double Helix. The labels are two across on the page, but he is only
>printing labels on the first column. How can he set up Double Helix to use
>both columns.

To type in the full explanation would be too tedious.  But when I had
the same problem, I called the support number at Helix Technologies
and they faxed me a four page explanation describing exactly how to
handle this situation.  I got the fax within 15 minutes.  Now if I
could only get my registration number and the marketing info on Helix
Express that they promised me about two months ago, I would be really
happy!!!

BTW, the number is 800-364-4359.

Steve Albin
stevea@zeus.bony.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Omnis screen size
From: rob@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Rob Whitehead)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:30:40 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand


> With Omnis 7, how can you determine the screen size that a user
> has?

Off the top of my head ;-) Use the 'sys' function, documented in the 
programmers reference.

============================================================
Rob Whitehead               email: rob@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz
                            snail: Dept of Computer Science
I'm Rob -                          University of Canterbury
    who the hell is Bart!!         New Zealand
From: schulte@klin.far.ruu.nl (Bas Schulte, Spider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: (Q) Butler
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:23:22 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi there,

has anybody over here ever heard of a database 
product called Butler? It appears to be some sort 
of client/server system where both the client and 
the server run on a Mac.

Furthermore, it is supposedly capable of storing 
dynamic data like QT movies and aliases to files.

Can anybody tell me more on Butler? Where can I 
get it, pricing, specifications etc. etc.

Please reply through e-mail. If there's an 
interest, I'll post a summary,

best regards,


Bas A. Schulte

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