HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: andrew@rle-vlsi.mit.edu (Andrew Eli Grumet)
Subject: that face, that face...
Organization: Research Laboratory of Electronics, Massachusetts Institute of
	Technology
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:26:41 GMT


Okay, so who the heck is that face that appears in
early tmbg videos like don't let's start and 
put your hand inside the puppet head?  I'm talking 
about the large cut out photograph that they 
dance around with in time to the music.  Know what
I mean?  Also, who out there thinks that the guy
in the space suit on the back of apollo 18 is the
aforementioned fellow?


"Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking
 part that wonders what the part that isn't
 thinking isn't thinking of."

--
Andrew Eli Grumet
andrew@rle-vlsi.mit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: acbonin@unix.amherst.edu (Adam Bonin)
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:28:05 GMT

Joseph J. Nuspl Jr. (nuspljj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
: (New thread)
: 
: 
: When I saw TMBG in Chicago in late June 92 at the Riv, the song requested
: by the audience was 'YMCA' but they played 'Yellow Submarine.'  I was
: wondering, what the 'requested' song was at some of the other shows?
: 

Here at Amherst, despite calls for "Smells Like Teen Spirit", "Copacabana" and
"Freebird", all of which they said that they had already done, they did
"Pictures of Matchbook Men" by Status Quo.

-adam
----
Adam Bonin '94
Amherst College
acbonin@amherst.edu

"He who accepts evil without fighting against
 it is really cooperating with it."
                   -MLK




Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: epeterso@encore.com (Eric Peterson)
Subject: Re: Apollo 18 tour set list?
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:03:04 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Free the Expo 67! (jtruss@bigwpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:

|    She's Been Untrue (cover--can't recall who of)

That would be "Maybe I Know" by Leslie Gore ("An old song we didn't write"):

   Maybe I know that she's been a-cheatin'
   Maybe I know that she's been untrue
   But what can I do?

   I hear them whispering as I walk by
   "She's gonna break his heart and make him cry"
   I know it's me they're talkin' about
   I guess they all think I'll never find out
   Oh-oh-oh-oh ...

   Maybe I know that she's been a-cheatin'
   Maybe I know that she's been untrue
   But what can I do?

   My friends keep tellin' me that she's no good
   She isn't treatin' you the way she should
   I feel so badly, that's all I can say
   Before my tears fall I just walk away
   Oh-oh-oh-oh ..

   Maybe I know that she's been a-cheatin'
   Maybe I know that she's been untrue
   But what can I do?

   Deep down inside she loves me
   Though she may run around
   I know someday she'll love me
   Someday she'll settle down

   Maybe I know that she's been a-cheatin'
   Maybe I know that she's been untrue
   But what can I do?
From: copley-devon@cs.yale.edu (Devon Copley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: Lyrics....
Date: 11 Nov 1992 14:59:24 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gator.zoo.cs.yale.edu


In article <1992Nov11.172739.5208@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (...Jose) writes:
|> 
|> 	And there's a restaurant we should check out
|> 	Where the other nightmare people like to go
|> 	I mean "nice people", baby wait, I didn't mean
|> 	To say "nightmare".
|> 
|> 	Lad looks at other gals, gal blah blah blah blah blah blah
|> 	Blah blah blah, bl-blah blah blah.
|> 	Call off the wedding band, nobody wants to hear that song again, 
|>    	Blah blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah
|>   	They'll need a crane



	Lad looks at other gals
	Gal thinks Jim Beam is handsomer than Lad
	He isn't bad
	Call off the wedding band
	Nobody wants to hear that song again
	Play that again
	They'll need a crane ...

I think. No flames, please.

Devon

Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (...Jose)
Subject: Why the Fuss About TMBG?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:15:28 GMT

	I consider myself a man of varied but discriminating taste, music
being no exception.  I like Purcell, Bach, Rachmaninov, Liszt; I can get
into Industrial, Rap and Techo; I like the Smiths, Bowie and Spirit of the
West.... all seriously cool in their own way.  So.... Why do I hardly
ever listen to anything but TMBG!!!!  A couple of geeks who can't even
sing very well, and who's lyrics are lost is a sea of vague allusion and
thinly stretched free association!  Is something wrong with me?  Or are
they just brilliant?


				....Jose
 

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
".sig quotes are silly"|Kenneth C. Moyle          kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca 
 - Kenneth C. Moyle    |Department of Biochemistry     MOYLEK@MCMASTER.BITNET 
                       |McMaster University       ...!uunet!mnetor!maccs!kenm 
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: tlhouse@nyx.cs.du.edu (fiver)
Subject: Re: different words we hear
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:44:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.211216.16021@ultb.isc.rit.edu> lmj4805@ritvax.isc.r
t.edu writes:
>
>	i think it is really funny to hear everyones different interpretations
>and conclusions on the exact words these guys sing. jim beam, james deam
 ill
>bet they really say string bean. 
>	cool newsgroup. could somebody post the address for the mailing list
>and FAQ?
>	i am also super grateful that they didnt name this group
>alt.music.they-might-be-giants. tmbg is much nicer. have fun.
>				lee


 
They really say "lo beam" .. actually, the words are different on every
single cassette and CD they put out, they just sound alike .. as for teh
name .. maybe it keeps out the non-fans (unless some of them are curious
enough to see what's up) .. I saw alt.music.tmbg and jumped at it (as they
are one of my all-time favorites) .. since "tmbg" would usually only be
recognized by their fans (most of the time .. in general .. ya know?)
 
turn around, turn around
its a human skull on the ground ..

fiver

Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: sinoa@alf.uib.no (Andreas Lothe Opdahl)
Subject: Re: "They"s Albums??
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 00:04:09 GMT

What is "Misc. T. Rex"?  Original material?  A collection?
Could someone please post the song titles?

An album title I haven't seen mentioned yet is "Don't Lets Start".
Mostly stuff from TMBG and Lincoln.  Is it Europe only?

If interest I'll post the song titles.  (Haven't got them at work...)

Andreas

Great new newsgroup BTW.  It might be a ... :-)
-- 
Andreas Lothe Opdahl			Phone:	+ 47 - 5 - 54 41 15
Department of Information Science	Fax: 	+ 47 - 5 - 54 41 07
University of Bergen, Norway		Email:	andreas@ifi.uib.no
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: edwardsd@spot.Colorado.EDU (Edwards David C)
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:44:38 GMT

At the July 1 concert in Denver, they played Copacabana (sp) by Barry
Manilow.  They (scarily enough) seemed to know all of the words, and
mutated it into a slow accordian filled song.  It was great!

David

Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: praxis@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Laura L Perkinson)
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:03:31 GMT

	Well, perhaps someone from the Balt area has already posted (hi,
Bilbo), but...
	At the HFS-tival this summer, they did a cover of "Stand by Me."
	That was small change compared to their show in Sept at Johns
Hopkins. Some of my friends in the front row requested REM's "It's the
end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine)" - they considered, but
decided they couldn't even fake that one. (I wonder if even Michael Stipe
knows the words...)
	They did, however, dole out a truly weird version of the Doors'
"People are Strange." Whenever he drew a blank, Flansburg resorted to
yelling "You're strange!" Most appropos. Midway thru, they broke into
"See the Constellation," then Linnell concluded with the last bars of
"strange." Surreal.
	BTW, they closed the JHU show with a cover of an instrumental
called "Frankenstein," by (I'm told) Edgar Winters. Never heard of him,
but boy was that a kick-ass tune! Anyone fill me in on that?

		My SO can do the words to Purple Toupee only if drunk,
				Praxis
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: kennede@carr61.alleg.edu (Erin Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Why the Fuss About TMBG?
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:47:51 GMT

>Jose  Is something wrong with me?   	
		YES!

>Jose  Or are they just brilliant?
	        YES!


---------------------------------------------------------------------
	     "Memo to myself:  Do the dumb things I gotta do.  		 
	     Touch the puppethead." --TMBG
				
kennede@alleg.edu        "I've been burned by you before."	
erin beth kennedy             --Duster to Lumiere
Allegheny College
Box 2071                 "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry  
Meadville Pa 16335        with the saints, cause sinners have much 	 
		          more fun."--Billy Joel   
---------------------------------------------------------------------         
         

Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: smarties@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: ********
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:08:56 GMT

In article <6953@news.duke.edu> aimee@bio1.acpub.duke.edu (Aimee Eisenberg) writes:
>
>
>A TMBG newsgroup is a very cool thing!!!!
>Is fingertips just a collection of wanna-be songs, or does anyone know of 
>anything else about it?
>                                   
>                                        Thanks!
well, from what i can see, it's one of those incredibly cunning concept
things...

if you select random play on your cd player, one of those mini-tracks will come
up every other track.. like a sort-of adbreak.

well, that's my guess anyway. It could also have something to do with the
phone service they run.. excerpts from songs they recorded.

 My own personal favourite is the 'I walk alone darkened corridors'
 because it just sounds SO like Morrissey (The Smiths)

 Maybe they're just showing their INCREDIBLE diversity.. though they don't
 have to tell me!

 P.S> All-time personal fave: Don't Let's Start.. pure genius! 

				smarties
From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Apollo 18 tour set list?
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:24:55 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

So, does anyone out there in netland have setlists from when TMBG 
played in their town for the Apollo 18 tour? I'd appreciate posts ora
e-mail telling me what they played when _YOU_ saw them.


   dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu| (Orpheus / J. David Dickens)
  --------------------------------------------------------------
  | Sound/Word/Image/Thought |  Do What Thou Wilt Shall be The |
  | Creator and Engineer     |         Whole of The Law        |
  --------------------------------------------------------------
Organization: Miskatonic University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:52:30 EST
From: Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Musicians? HELL YES!

Unfortunately, the original post to this group discussing the musical
quality of TMBG has vanished from my site, but I'd still like to respond.

The guys in TMBG are two of the BEST musicians i've ever heard in my life.
NOTE: I said MUSICIANS NOT INSTRUMENTALISTS.

At their intruments, they are not all that skilled technically. They sing
fairly well, and do enough to get by. The combination of all of their skills
into just TWO people is astounding, and something that I aspire to.

They also have a tremendous sense of humor (granted this is IMHO).

I personally love the way they break out of the mindless rut today's music is
in. TMBG, and other artists like them are the Yes, and King Crimsons of today.

(Insert big IMHO here :))
______
Brian Panulla                    MOOO!                      Hail Sinfonia!
bjp108@psuvm.psu.edu  /  ender@vivaldi.psu.edu  /  moocow@fubar.bk.psu.edu
(The opinions expressed above are mine alone, and do not reflect those of)
(Penn State University, or the Center for Academic Computing, so there!  )
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: kbays@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Bays)
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:58:25 GMT


Here in West Virginia, the request was one of our state songs, "Take Me
Home Country Roads."  They didn't seem to know the song (big surprise
there), but they actually pulled a girl out of the audience to come up on
stage and teach them the song.  It was great.,

I also saw them in Pittsburgh, but I don't remember them doing the reques

thing at that show.

K
Ken
h

Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: turtle@engin.umich.edu (Matthew M Edwards )
Subject: The face?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:40:32 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor


While at one of thier concerts on the Lincoln turn (about 50 people
were in attendance, they played in an old church, very cool)
during a lull between songs I shouted out 'whos the face?!'.
John (guitar) replied that his name was William White, and to
look him up in the encyclopedia.  We found him in the world book
(or some other encyclopedia, don't remember which) and it even
had the exact picture they use next to the enrty.  We made a xerox
and blew it up and transfered it to a t-shirt.  Everyone in Ann Arbor
was asking where the hell we got the shirts *grin*

almost as good was the time we freeze-framed part of the video
to hotel detective and did a tracing of the animated johns
running down the hall and got an artist to do t-shirt transfers
and color them in.  It was perfect!  bigtime copyright infringements?
heh...we only made one.  

They're the best band in the world!

*sigh*
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: boutell@isis.cshl.org (Tom Boutell)
Subject: Re: Lyrics....
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Labs
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:49:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.172739.5208@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (...Jose) writes:
>	He wants a shoehorn, the kind with teeth.

Vagina dentata.

Baby.

-T

-- 
Tom Boutell, boutell@cshl.org

Clausthaler is the best non - alcoholic beer in the known universe.
From: Bo Orloff <bo@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:52 PST
Subject: TMBG Tour Dates- Update 11/12/92
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1751600001:000:862
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!bo    Nov 12 06:52:00 1992


THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS
Don't Tread On The Cut-Up Snake WORLD TOUR 1992

11/15 San Francisco, CA  Great American Music Hall
11/16 San Francisco, CA  Great American Music Hall
11/17 San Francisco, CA  Great American Music Hall *
11/19 San Juan Cap, CA   The Coach House *
11/20 Los Angeles, CA    Fairfax High
11/21 Ventura, CA        Ventura Theater *
11/22 Fullerton, CA      Cal State
11/25 Honolulu, HI       Pink's Garage
11/29 Tokyo, JAPAN       On AIr
11/30 Tokyo, JAPAN       On Air
12/2  Osaka, JAPAN       Club Quattro
12/3  Kyoto, JAPAN       Muse Hall
12/4  Nagoya, JAPAN      Club Quattro
12/6  Tokyo, JAPAN       Club Quattro

* Special "First Album Live" Shows- TMBG will
  perform all 19 songs from their debut album live
  and in sequence at these shows.

NOTE- The Nov 14th show at the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium
       has been CANCELLED. Sorry.
From: nuspljj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: What was the requested song at other concerts?
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:00:15 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

(New thread)


When I saw TMBG in Chicago in late June 92 at the Riv, the song requested
by the audience was 'YMCA' but they played 'Yellow Submarine.'  I was
wondering, what the 'requested' song was at some of the other shows?



------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.					 306 Shreve Hall
nuspljj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu			West Lafayette, IN 47906
"I'm a space cowboy!"				 	(317) 495 - 5308
From: jim@haas.berkeley.edu (Jim Sauer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: What was the requested song at other concerts?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 22:05:14 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu
Keywords: YMCA, SF

TMBG played YMCA here in SF this last summer (Aug 92), at the "Warfield".  

- jim      +==---------------------==+
           |  jim@haas.berkeley.edu  |
           |  (510) 649-0387         |
           +==---------------------==+
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: christian@Turing.ORG (Christian Claiborn)
Subject: Mailing List
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:36:53 GMT

Um...
Does anyone have the address for the TMBG mailing list?

I want on.

					Thanks.
						Christian
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Christian Claiborn, Llamist Lliason, UNH | My opinions are strictly those  |
| All my posts are inspired by dreams.     | of Mother Teresa.  She's over at|
| Especially the ones about panties and    | saint@pope.catholic.com.  Blame |
| honey and Brigitte Fonda.  God did 'em.  | her.  Send your flames to HER.  |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| clc@kepler.unh.edu/ C_CLAIBORN@unhh.unh.edu | I do bar-mitzvahs, too!      |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver (The Weeniehead))
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: Lyrics....
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:53:19 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov12.203232.7238@athena.mit.edu} thomasc@athena.mit.edu (Thomas Wallace Colthurst) writes:
}In article <1992Nov11.224651.23211@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca} kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (...Jose) writes:
}}In article <1drt7gINNro2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu} dlp5@po.CWRU.Edu (Destructo) writes:
}}}I think a lot of their songs have cool and funky hidden meanings like
}}}that, and is one of the reasons They are my favorite group.  I just 
}}}can't find the hidden meaning in Minimum Wage.
}}
}}	No hidden meaning..... the whip crack says it all: slavery,
}}degradation, humility, miserable conditions.
}}
}
}Gee, and I always thought that "Minimum Wage" was just a shameless attempt
}to win the coveted Most-Meaningful-Social-Commentary-Song-With-Two-Words-Or-
}Less Award.


	Three.  It goes "Minimum Wage, Yeahhh <Crack>"  Three words, plus
the whip.
-- 
                             Nicholas C. Weaver
nweaver@ocf.berkeley.edu                           nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu
It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing.
                   Tis better to dream with eyes wide open.
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: epeterso@encore.com (Eric Peterson)
Subject: Re: Lyrics....
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:34:58 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Nicholas C. Weaver (The Weeniehead) (nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu) wrote:

| 	We should try to get TMBGs onto the net.  Anyone in NY willing to
| loan em a net feed?  After all, they are essentially the unofficial favorite
| group of lots of computer geeks I know.

Smokin' Bo Orloff (check your Apollo 18 liner notes) is already on the
net at the address bo@igc.apc.org.  He posts tour dates, press
releases, and other info to the TMBG mailing list from time to time.
So even though John and John aren't on the net (Linnell has a computer
although he doesn't have a modem), at least their management is.

Eric
From: dlp5@po.CWRU.Edu (Daniel L. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
Subject: Re: different words we hear
Date: 11 Nov 1992 22:34:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dlp5@po.CWRU.Edu (Daniel L. Price)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lmj4805@ritvax.isc.rit.edu () says:

>
>	i think it is really funny to hear everyones different interpretations
>and conclusions on the exact words these guys sing. jim beam, james deam. ill
>bet they really say string bean. 

I think it's "Jim Dean" but they mean James Dean.  I don't think string
beans are real handsome.  I guess they could be to some people though. . .

>	cool newsgroup. could somebody post the address for the mailing list
>and FAQ?

send mail to they-might-be-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu 

>				lee
Dan


"To Hell with everybody!"  -Nameless (to me) Southern senator,
                            just re-elected to his SIXTH term.
"I hate politics"  -dlp5@po.cwru.edu
p.s. If you know who it was, tell me.  I wanna know. . .

Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg
From: murph@athena.mit.edu (Keith E Murphy)
Subject: TMBG movie and "that face"
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:41:20 GMT


As a longtime TMBG fan, it's great to have a forum for discussion!  I have
one suggestion to everyone, though... when someone asks a lyrics question,
don't post your 'guesses' right away, since many of the songs are on lyrics
sheets.  Let someone who can type them in from there do so!

Could someone please post about the mailing list that reputedly exists, and any
TMBG-related FAQ's out there??

Oh yeah, getting to the point of this post - Andrew Grumet asked about the
face in the early videos.  Well, I have no clue, but does it seem like it might
be George C. Scott to anyone?  I only ask this because of the old movie "They
Might Be Giants", which he stars in.  I've just recently found out about the
existence of this movie, but I'll rent it ASAP.  If anyone knows about it already,
could you give a synopsis of the plot?

On another note, does anyone have interesting hard-to-find things by TMBG?
I've purchased everything I've found by them, but I'm sure people in foreign
lands have some great stuff that was never imported.  Are there any video 
collections after the first one that people have found?  (This would contain
stuff on Flood and Apollo 18).

Well, I could do this all day, but I suppose I'll leave some room for responses.
Which version of "Kiss Me, Son of God" do people like better?  The "(She was a)
Hotel Detective" single version (also on Misc. T) or the Lincoln version?


					-Keith
					 murph@athena.mit.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.tmbg