From: dcroz@twics.co.jp (DAVID CROSSLIN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:31:30 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

Dear Mr. Goguey,
 
     Aside from the meaningless name-calling, your ad hominem attack is shot
through with falsehoods.  I don't know if these are deliberate lies, or merely
reflect your gross, perhaps willful, failure to understand most of what I've
said.  It doesn't really matter, either way; that you choose to abandon
discussion for invective pretty much tells the story.
 
     Still, just in the interest of trying to set the record straight:
 
=}writes that racism is one of the characteristics that Japanese have by birth
 
     Completely false.  Nor did I write anything that could in good faith be so
misinterpreted.  Every argument I have made has concerned belief systems and
culture; *none* have been based on race.
 
=}at the same time has a very high opinion of himself
 
     It is quite common for people to demonize those they argue with in this
way.  Almost as though daring to disagree is evidence of arrogance.  Even if
this were true, however, it would have nothing to do with racism.  Unless, of
course, you'd like to add to your list of lies the proposition that I regard
myself as a separate race.  Wouldn't be any sillier than the other stuff you've
invented.
 
=}In his posts, Japanese speak an almost not understandable English while he
=}speaks perfectly understandable Japanese.
 
     I just do my best to report 'em the way they went down.  If you don't like
the facts, well. . .I don't know.  I can't help you.
 
=}He knows everything about ethnology. . .
 
     As does everyone who expresses an opinion you don't like, I suppose.
 
=}A.D. says that Japanese talk English to him because they assume he's unable
=}to understand Japanese. At the same time, he uses a lot of Japanese words in
=}his posts, probably because he assumes that the Japanese readers of s.c.j.
=}couldn't understand him otherwise.
 
     The opinion I offered is based on a years of experience, thought, reading,
and idea swapping with others.  The *only* grounds you have for your scurrilous
accusation is your desire to demonize me personally, and so discredit anything
I have to say.
 
     I used Japanese words when I thought it better preserved the flavor of
what was said, or sometimes just on a whim.
 
=}A.D. fights against P.C. but uses terms like g**j*n, n*gr**....
 
     So?  These things are unconnected.  Are you sure you understand what PC
means?
 
=}A.D. thinks he represents the truth and the objectivity.
 
     And again you demonize:  discredit the person, it's easier than addressing
the arguments.
 
     Of course I make my arguments as well as I can.  To do otherwise would be
less than others deserve.  If you choose to add that to the fact that I *dare*
to disagree with you and decide that shows a closed mind, fine.  Then you're
putting me in your kill file, aren't you?  You won't be wasting any more of my
time, right?
 
=}A.D seems to be himself brainwashed at the point he doesn't see his own
=}contradictions (1, 2, 3, 4).
 
      1....is a complete fabrication.  Check the notes.
 
2 and 3....I think are debunked above.
 
      4....is gibberish.  Write something coherent and I'll consider it.
 
=}His kids will then be brainwashed because raised with racist anti-Japanese
=}theories.
 
     It is worse than wrong to accuse a person of racism simply for despising
racism, even if some of that opprobrium spills over onto the racists
themselves.  Aside from the misrepresentation involved, it puts you in the
position of defending racists.
 
=}A.D. is either very unlucky and has tremendous daily problems with Japanese,
=}or exagerates just a little bit his daily misadventures.
 
     Yes. . .either that. . .or it could be that you are living in a fool's
paradise, oblivious to most of what's happening around you.
 
     You can have another mud-fling if you want it.  I won't respond to any
more flames from you.

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