From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Electronics/videogame stores in Hong Kong. (SUMMARY)
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:28:03 GMT
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Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: cho@enlil.premenos.sf.ca.us's message of 25 Jul 92 00:22:41 GMT

>>>>> On 25 Jul 92 00:22:41 GMT, cho@enlil.premenos.sf.ca.us (Cho-Ming Tai) said:
Cho-Ming> 	I went to Hong Kong last Christmas and found the
Cho-Ming> 	computers/machines sold at Golden Plaza (in Kowloon)
Cho-Ming> 	disappointing.  They were all PC stuff.  It's hard
Cho-Ming> 	even to find any high-end Macs, not mentioning Sun,
Cho-Ming> 	Next, DEC stuff.  Most CS magazines in Hong Kong
Cho-Ming> 	copy/translate articles/ideas from foreign ones.
Cho-Ming> 	That's why only a handful prestiged U student can
Cho-Ming> 	access UNIX usenet.  And the general Hong Kong
Cho-Ming> 	(probably including CS) students are only at a
Cho-Ming> 	barely-above user level.  *** No flame, please ***

While I can understand the reason Golden Plaza filled with PC stuff, 
it is incredible that the HKU bookstore filled its computer section
with PC application books as well. The minute portion left over for
non-PC books were so rudimentary that I questioned the depth of
coverage in their CS grad. courses.

Any post grad. CS student from HKU cares to clarify the situation? 

[...]

Cho-Ming> 	Most programming jobs in Hong Kong are for Application
Cho-Ming> 	Programmers who code around RDBMS packages (mostly
Cho-Ming> 	Oracle on PC or Mainframe; Sybase was not there yet)
Cho-Ming> 	to implement BUSINESS computer software systems.  A
Cho-Ming> 	brother of my old classmate got a MSCS (specializing
					    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cho-Ming> 	in AI) from U.K. can only find a mainframe banking
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cho-Ming> 	programming job in Hong Kong.  I wonder if there is
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cho-Ming> 	ANY SOFTWARE COMPANY in Hong Kong, besides financial
Cho-Ming> 	institutions, that employs programmers.

I wonder how the post grad. CS foreign students from Hong Kong feel
when they have to return to Hong Kong after their study.

Anyone in that category cares to speak his/her mind?

Cho-Ming> 	I think Hong Kong is slow and reluctant to catch up
Cho-Ming> 	with others in Hi-Tech areas.  The government does not
Cho-Ming> 	put enough money in encouraging industrial R&D,
Cho-Ming> 	post-graduate research, etc.

Cho-Ming> 	If this trend continues, Hong Kong will be full of
Cho-Ming> 	BUSINESS people while Japan, Taiwan and Singapore
				      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cho-Ming> 	dominate the ASIAN HI-TECH AREA.  Well, I think it's
Cho-Ming> 	OK for a country to specialize; however, isn't it
Cho-Ming> 	better for Hong Kong to diversify its interests and
Cho-Ming> 	growth opportunities ???

Don't leave out Korea - I believe it is second to Japan in computer
hardware technology. Comparing the data processing software technology
in Hong Kong and that in Japan is like comparing a mosquito with a
cow! 
--
Boniface Lau    (613) 592-2122 ext. 3042    Boniface_Lau@Mitel.COM
Mitel Corp.  				    
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Ontario, Canada, K2K 1X3
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:01:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Help ! N Y Giants fan looking for "air" time in HK !
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.