From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RSS ( a reply to  fundamentalists)
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:07:54 GMT
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Originator: indu@iss700

>  Article 82695 of soc.culture.indian:
>  Subject: Re: RSS
>  jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan) writes:
>  
>  
>  (stuff deleated)
>> ==
>> If it takes 15 kar-sevaks to demolish the Babri masjid in 300 days, how
>> many kar-sevaks would it take to demolish it in 30 days ?
>> ==
>  Javed RSS never considered the disputed construction as Babri Masjid.
>  RSS says it is temple and it is rebuilding the temple.

   WHICH IS ALSO A FACT. Other wise what has BABAR got to do in AYODHYA?
   In my previous article on AYODHYA ... I had already shown how vague these
   notions of a Masjid are and how much an ordinaru muslim cares about these
   
>  It is BJP who accept the disputed construction as Babri Masjid built by
>  demolishing the temple eventhough BJP does not have any proof.

   Even all the proofs you require are quoted in my article on AYODHYA..
   posted in s.c.i.

   (just for curiosity sake, I want to know can a person really know the 
    person to whom he was born?  /* note: Had I been more direct then it 
    we lose grip of the discussion and go on more personal which is never 
    my intention */  All he can know is only thru logical deductions, and 
    thats it. THEN WHAT PROOFS DO YOU WANT?

      BABAR WAS A BARBARIAN. period.
      HE INVADED INDIA.      fact.
      HE ENTERED AYODHYA.    also a fact.
     
      EVEN IF SOME DAMN FOOL SAYS AND tries to PROVE THAT IT INDEED IS A MASJID
      WHICH NO-BODY IS ABLE TO DO, THAT ILLEGAL CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO COME 
      DOWN.  WHICH IS GOING TO START THE PROCESS OF stalling the folishness
      of FUNDAMENTALIST attitudes and beliefs and chatters.

      You still seem to be under some illusion and talking in terms of 
      BJP and non-BJP etc. Leave all that. With BJP or with out BJP, with
      CONGRESS or without CONGRESS, that is going to happen. These political
      are just POLITICAL parties and not the correctors of HISTORICAL 
      blunders.  If these parties also reflect peoples mood (as in the case 
      of BJP) then they can be given a chance to lead the process which any 
      way is happening.
      

>  By the way, a new era is coming in India.
>  This new era
>  will spread a question of loyalty to India among those people whose
>  perants and grandperants selected the secular India and not a fundamentalist
>  India.

   Before you analyse these questions of loyalty it is better to recapitulate
   the "question of loyalty" and their side-effects in 1965 and 1972.
   If donot have much futuristic views you better develop. Its alredy showing
   up, SINDH is boiling, AHMEDIAS are revolting, POLITICS and MILITARY are 
   rotting up the system since 1972, dependency on U.S. alms, system unable
   to grow because of the hold your fundamentalist clergy on your minds,
   .......

> Article 82696 of soc.culture.indian:
> Subject: Re: RSS ( JAVED and his RELEVANCE FUNDA)
>

>> Know your facts first. VIDYA BHARATHI is not run by RSS.  People who were 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> You Know Facts First.
> Is BJP linked with RSS?
> No.
  TRUE.  But I never said that BJP is linked to RSS. My facts just show where
  our friend JAVED KHAN had tried to put his masala and distort facts to 
  make them "Relevant" to his way of thinking

> But why BJP ruled states are going on RSS path?
> Both are fundamentalist().

 RSS is a great way of life, ability to think and realisation of ones own 
 potentiality. IT IS THE REAL KARMIC CONCEPT PUT ON PRACTICABLE TERMS.
 Well I can always symapthise with your frustrations and views and ideologies
 as you are a product of the McCulay system. After all this the
 only way you are conditioned to look at world i.e. thru "fundamentalis" 
 spectacles. YOU HAVE BEEN TOUGHT THRU OUT YOUR LIFE THAT Islamic 
 Fundamentalistic anarchy is the way of life and objective of life. NOW HOW 
 CAN I CONVINCE YOU THAT THE WORLD IS MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT YOU THINK, 
 THERE ARE MORE BETTER PHILOSOPHIES AND MUCH MORE ADVANCED CONCEPTS than
 what you have been conditioned to,     cultures where women are
 not meant to be restricted to a PIECES-BLACK-CLOTH, Religious-tolerance
 and right of way to lead ones way of life, think, and other principles which
 you cannot understand with your current state of MIND.

 SO YOU BEHAVE, TALK, THINK IN YOUR TERMS TRYING TO REMAIN IN YOUR ISLAMIC
 WELL. So    patriotism may look fundamentalism. HENCE YOUR COMMENTS. I accept
 and understand your comments as an impact of all these....

  and if you want to really know and change your life then probably I can 
  show you a teacher who can guide you (honestly, even I'm not the right 
  person to guide you. These guidances can just be done by a KNOWLEDGEABLE 
  experience teacher who himself has seen and practiced a lot).

-Indu.
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