From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Dr Who
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:40:37 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.
To: baustin@billapc.UUCP

In article <9u3JrA9DBh107h@billapc.UUCP> baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin) writes:

> In <1992Dec7.042230.28487@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
> >>Wasn't there / Isn't there some movement working towards recovery of 'lost' 
> >>stories?  (I would doubt that the organization that destroyed it isn't the one

> >The most notable find lately was the recovery from te Archives of
> >a lost Patrick Troughton story, "The Tomb of the Cybermen."

> Yeah, I heard about that salvage.  Should be good if I ever get to see it.

"Tomb of the Cyberman" is available on VHS/NTSC Video through your
local Suncoast Video store at the mall. If you can't find one, check
any place that carries CBS/FOX Videos. Price was $19.99 US. If you
want it, and still can't get it, contact me, and we'll work out
arrangements. 

BTW, I got mine (VHS/PAL) in the UK for #12.99(UK)

> >There is now an office or branch of the BBC looking over the world for
> >any lost episodes of Who or indeed anything else the BBC has erased over
...
> >about the saled of the "Tomb" Video.  The fans kept up their end, and
> >the BBC seem to be now keeping up theirs, as the possible "Tenth" 

To jump the gun (PAL) again, or to wait (NTSC).


> What was the deal?  If we sell x copies then we will ACK that it was
> something worth keeping??  I suppose that is reasonable enough, but

Basically, Yes. If I remember the origional announcement for TOMB,
they would release in the US if so many were sold, as well as expidite
'The Tenth Planet' being released on video.

> By what means (average) do they find missing episodes?  Workers at the

Generally, there are a few... First, As you said, someone 'pinched' a
copy from the office. Second, copies were sent all over the world.
They request, as well as visit & help, places where things were sent.
After a search, they may come back later, because something is 'found'
behind a cabinet. Also, I have heard of certain fans who have copies
of certain episodes (proabaly made at one of these originally), and
occasionally, they will turn them in. Also, there are 'kinescope',
film copies, found in other archives. Kinescopes were made by filming
a TV monitor, and are usually quite poor in quality. That was, if I am
correct, and I will be corrected if I'm wrong, 'The Daemons' was
re-colorized. They combined a color (or colour) kinescope and a good
B&W Video copy to get the color version. 

> >Point of correction though, Doctor Who *was* a top program for quite a
> >few American PBS stations.  The numbers of stations carrying the show
> >has been dwindling rapidly lately, and I don't think it will be too long
...
> This will be very sad (as I'm not a cable supporter.. I rent tapes, and
> go to movies instead)
> I don't think that there is any immediate danger here at my local PBS 
> station (WOSU at Ohio State University).  It has year after year been

5 years ago, I could watch Dr. Who at 11:30pm on WHYY, Philly Friday,
4 PM on WLIW Saturday, 9pm on NJN Saturday, and one episode each night
on WNYC at 10:30 pm. Now, NJN at 5:00pm Saturday is my only choice.
All cases, it was a top money maker. 

Furthermore, the Sci-Fi Channel, if I recall, is leverageing an
exclusive contract on this show. Only stations that currently have
rights will continue to carry it, but when the contract ends, it may
be gone, Fan Support or not. (It is still highly supported at NJN)

> >On the plus side, however, the new cable channel SciFi (science fiction
> >channel) is showing the Tom Baker episodes one a day at 12pm eastern time

> Is it available on sattelite?  (non-scrambled)

Yes, on satelite. Currently, it's unscrambled, but that will be
changing soon.

Well, I'm waiting for my colour copy of 'The Daemons', and the release
of 'The Tenth Planet'.

Let me know if you want 'Tomb' if you can't find it.

				John
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