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From: d87mt@efd.lth.se (Magnus Thelander)
Subject: Re: Need Advice of USR sportster v32bis
Reply-To: d87mt@efd.lth.se (Magnus Thelander)
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:57:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.103114.15116@ccsun7.csie.nctu.edu.tw> sycheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw writes:
>    *  ZyXEL v32bis & USR Sportster v32bis, which is better ? I know
>       that ZyXEL now can run up to 16800 bps, but how about USR
>       sportster ? Does it support HST-16.8 ?

   I have a USR Sportster 14,400 Fax modem. It is reliable, and I get
transfer rates around 1650 with lh5 archives. It doesn't support any
speeds above 14.4 kbit/s or the HST protocol presently. It won't be
upgradeable to V.fast unlike the Courier series. The two biggest
drawbacks IMO are the lack of Class 2 faxcommands and automatic dete-
ction of fax calls. According to USR, Class 2 will be available next
year. They didn't even bother to answer, when/if automatic detection
of fax calls will be available.

   I haven't had any opportunity, to try a ZyXEL 1496E, but if I had
known, what I know now, when I bought the Sportster, I'd probably
have chosen the ZyXEL instead.

Magnus
From: ianm@icsbelf.uucp (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: *Advice* needed on modems
Summary: Miracom Courier
Keywords: advice modems
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:27:54 GMT
Organization: ICS Computing Group Ltd., Belfast

In article <1992Aug11.191132.11420@tc.cornell.edu> matt@nmc.cit.cornell.edu (Matt Hutcheson) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>	I'm new at this so bear with me.  But, I figured that
>if there is ANYONE who knows the answers to my questions, it's
>gotta be y'all.  I'm looking into buying a modem ... one of those
>9600 or 14,400 baud ones.  I called Supra and Periphials and
>there are sending me literature, but I was wondering if y'all
>could give me some *personal* insights on what is the best
>modem for the money and who I could contact about some really
>reasonable rates.  So far, the net has led me to the new
>Supra.

Currently Fidonet and it seems this newsgroup as well is full of SUPRA
related chat. My personal opinion would be that SUPRA have yet to sort
out certain ROM based problems with their SupraFax V32bis model.
Although very good value I would be reluctant to buy one as yet.
The feeling in Fidonet from people who use these modems is that for
calling out they are very good, but for incoming calls they cannot
be relied upon.

I purchased a Miracom Courier V32bis model and find it very reliable
for both in and outgoing calls. This model is known under the
USRobotics label in the States. If you are going for a UUCP connection then
it would be worthwhile establishing whether PEP modems with UUCP
spoofing capability yield higher throughput than V32bis models.

Regards

Ian Moran

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From: work@tasha.guug.de (Felix Blank)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL ROM 408a to 412c changes
Keywords: ZyXEL FAX CLASS2
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:43:08 GMT

gvb@telly.on.ca (George VandeBunte) writes:


>>I have written some code, which flawless received fax messages with a
>>ZyXEL ROM 408a using class 2 fax mode. Then i upgraded to ROM 412c,
>...
>.>What i actually are doing is to give a AT+FDR followed by XON and DC2
>>characters. This worked fine under ROM 408a, but now i get the expected
>>"CONNECT" messages and nothing more happens until my time limit of
>>2 minutes strikes.
>>Does anybody know, what ZyXEL has changed between the two ROM releases?
> 
>You are probably sending the dc2 too soon.  When you issue the at+fdr
>I think the zyxel responds with +fcr, then +fdis with the parameters both
>of which you can ignore.  Then you get the Connect message.  It is
>only then that you should send the DC2 character.  

Meanwhile i figured out, what is going wrong: ZyXEL sends ^S with the
CONNECT message. That blocks the handshake mechanism and i can't send
actually nothing more to the modem. :-(

Felix
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From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout Plus Usenet Offer
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:41:43 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <mac1.714242877@Ra.MsState.Edu>, mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:
> 
>  I have tried both the Digicom Scout Plus and Supra V.32bis Faxmodem
>  and have found Supra to be far better than the Scout Plus
> 
>  I sell these at $265 each  :)


Consider this a flame if you must, but please do not be quite so
blatently commercial in this news group.  Those of us who pay to move
news and all of us who read the stuff do not need to subsidize your
advertising.  It's not especially good that others advertise their own
stuff in this supposedly non-commercial venue, but you are not only
advertising but doing contentless bad-mouthing of your competition.

I thought it might be good to have a few low keyed notes, fairly
infrequent notes from you guys selling these new, cheap, fast modems.
I'm beginning to thing that the slippery slope to simple "Computer Shopper"
emptiness is too steep.

The signal-to-noise ratio in this news group is rather bad, what
with the many people who cannot read their own manuals or who cannot be
bothered to read the newsgroup for a few weeks before asking for
recommendations.

I do not mind your previous note that pointed out that the used modem
was not well priced.  I would not have objected to this note if you had
included the concrete reasons that you prefer the Supra to the Scout+.
I don't care if you like the Supra only because you make more money
selling it than the Scout+.  Or you don't like the way the people at
Digicom spell their names.  Or your tests found the Supra faster, more
reliable, prettier or smells better.

Please justify your advertising at our expense (in time and money) with
some information.  I have a couple of reservations about the Scout+,
although I recommend the Digicom 9624LE+ to people who ask me about a
non-FAX modem (lack of class 2 support).  What are your reservations
about the Scout+?  How fast or slow is the Supra compared to the
Scout+?  Or any other modems you have tested?  How good is Supra's
class 2 support?  Is it easy to get Sam Leffler's code working with
it?  Can you say anything bad about the Supra?  What about the Supra is
particularly good according to your tests?  Can you offer additional
confirmation or denial of it's alledged heat problems?


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: ajchuah@mtu.edu ([*BARK*])
Subject: Dial tones 
Keywords: Dial tones
Reply-To: ajchuah@mtu.edu
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:07:19 GMT


Hi netters,
          I plan to buy a high speed modem and i am looking 
into USR or ZyXEL.  My main problem is i plan to take it back
home with me, i am from Malaysia.  I will be here(US) for a 
while more but i understand there may be dial tone problems
if i take a US made modem back home with me.  Anyone know of any
way to get by such problems?  Is there a way to "teach" these
modems to understand dial tones?  Any info related to this
topic is welcome.  Thanx in advance.


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From: andreas@didymus.rmi.de (Andreas Fassl)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: DISCUSSION: Maximum transmission speed via phone lines
Summary: Maximum transmission speed via phone line
Keywords: MODEM High Speed Maximum Roof
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:43:50 GMT
Organization: Klaus Kaempf Softwareentwicklung

Hi,

after hearing about the planned speed for V.FAST (I think app. 28800 bps)
I tried to find an article in a german magazine about the maximum
possible speed for phone lines published some years ago. 
I have in mind something about 120 kbps (maybe more) using the full
frequency available on phone lines.

Does anyone has knowledge about the theoretical background?

With kind regards


Andreas Fassl


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From: marc@CAM.ORG (Marc Boucher)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: supra V.32bis and Caller-ID
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:15:46 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

gerrit@laosinh.stgt.sub.org (Gerrit Heitsch) writes:

>Has somebody tried if the Caller-ID works with the supra and
>the 1.200C-ROMs? I've tried the commands suggested in the
>Modem Designer's Guide from Rockwell for the RC144DP and they give 
>me an OK as a result. Caller-ID does not work in Germany because of 
>the (ancient) network.

>The Commands are:

>AT#CID=0  Disable Caller-ID.
>AT#CID=1  Enable Caller-ID with formatted presentation.
>AT#CID=2  Enable Caller-ID with unformatted presentation.

>I took a closer look at the ROMs and the Strings for Caller-ID
>are present in 1.200C.

Have you found any other "undocumented" AT# commands or interesting messages?

>Can somebody with a network that supports Caller-ID try if it works?

It does indeed work!

ati3i5
V1.200-C TR14-Jxxx-001 032
 
(c)1992 Supra Corporation
 
OK
at#CID=1
OK
 
[calling the supra from 466-9501; MESG contains this number in hex ascii]
[the switch is a Northern Telecom DMS-100 serving a suburb of Montreal, Canada]
RING
 
DATE = 0820
TIME = 1159
MESG = 030734363639353031
 
RING
 
RING
at#CID=2
OK
 
RING
 
8013010830383230313230300307343636393530315E

>Gerrit

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From: bjesiek@telstr.mi.org (Brent Jesiek)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Twincom Modems
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:36:20 GMT
Organization: Tele-Star BBS (616-399-8174 CNet)

Does anybody out there know of Twincom modems are any good? They seem to have all the features and protocols all of the other modems have, but it's difficult to tell the quality of the modem by reading an ad or two. Please post your experiences (good or bad) with these modems!

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From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: USR Fires Sysop Deal Bozo?
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:52:07 GMT

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:

>They have to be able to dial into your system to verify its status.
>When I tried to buy USR modems, they sent me a note saying they couldn't
>figure out how to login.

>That guy must have been a real winner!

I don't know about you, but my machine states something like

login as bbs for the bbs

login:

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From: jfw@technix.mn.org (Jerry Wallace)
Subject: Re: modem schematics
Organization: Private System - Saint Paul, MN
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:28:10 GMT

Tad Cook writes:

>>There is nothing to keep you from BUILDING you own modem.
>>However if you want to USE it an attach it to the phone lines
>>it MUST be FCC approved.
>>
>>All devices attached to the phone lines must, by law, be type
>>approved.

>Is this really true?  Or is this only true if I manufacture and SELL
>modems for connection to the public switched network?  If I
>make one device and it meets FCC specs, do I really have to register
>and type approve it?  I am thinking this is like building my
>own computer....if I don't make it for sale, and it does not
>generate excessive RFI, I don't have to submit it for part 15
>testing and type approval.
>
>By the way, I have no desire to build my own modem, what with fast
>modems being so cheap these days.

As I understand the FCC regs, you can connect anything you want to the
telco system as long as it connects thru an approved interface.  The
idea is to protect the telco equipment.  Build anything, a modem or
answering machine or better mousetrap or whatever, no approval needed
for anything except the bit that touches the pair of copper wires from
Ma Bell.  I understand that interfaces are easily purchased.
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From: stevef@bony1.bony.com (Steve Faiwiszewski)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Zmodem "Resending from xxx" error -- Please help!
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:30:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: bony1.1992Aug19.143027.26172
Organization: Lost in NYC

In article <16pcidINNocc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian) writes:
>
>I'm having a problem uploading with my new ZyXEL U-1496E modem.  During most
>uploads I get an error that says "Resending from xxx".  Then the transfer
>restarts from xxx.  Unfortunately, this error seems to be somewhat "recursive"
>in nature in that it keeps happening more and more frequently as time
>progresses (???).  The block size also continues to decrease, often down to 64.
>The transfer eventually starts going so slow that I just give up.
>

Make sure your cable supports hardware flow control (CTS/RTS).  I had
a bad cable (if I recall correctly, the CTS signal was open), and when
I tried to send a file, I observed behavior similar to what you
described.

This did not affect downloads (my 386 clone is fast enough to keep
up).

Hope this helps,
		- Steve -



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From: d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Digicom Scout Plus Usenet Offer
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:31:53 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <x7!n71b.royg@netcom.com> royg@netcom.com (Roy H. Gordon) writes:

>I too am interested in your views about this, as I'm thinking about
>purchasing a Scout+, and had pretty much ruled out Supra due to what
>seemed to be a large number of problems reported in this group.

A month ago I borrowed a Supa V.32" from a friend, to try it out.  The
problems I had with it was:

* Sometimes very long initial connection times.
* I couldn't get it to do V.42" with some modems I knew had this capability.
* It is known, that it can't negotiate a fallback
* It doesn't detect BUSY on all tele equipment (Swedish style BUSY tone).

I didn't like the silly two letter display.  They display is simply too
small to handle the information it is supposed to present.

Yesterday I ordered a DigiCom Scout+ instead.  

Mikael Wahlgren      d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se
From: jim@n5ial.chi.il.us (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Any Modem out there with PEP not made by Telebit? 
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 12:15:51 GMT
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

In article <1992Aug10.140413.22134@amylnd.stgt.sub.org>
agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org writes:

> A few days ago, someone showed a Fido posting to me. The author of
> this article stated that a company in United Kindom is building a
> "Mega-Modem" (I forgot the exact name). This modem should support
> all V modes including V.32bis and V.42bis. But more ... also HST and
  ^^^^^^^^^^^
> an improved HST called XST (19,200 bit/s), PEP and an improved PEP
> called PEP+ (>2100 cps).

``all V modes'' eh?  do I take that to mean that any CCITT standard
that is in the V-series is supported by this mythical modem?  :-)
wow....  guess that means it has a V.35 interface (along with the
normal RS-232 interface, of course).  :-)

> I think, this is a fake.

you are most certainly correct....it's a fake.  though I'm sure they'd
be happy to take your money.  :-)
   --jim

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From: mb@cs.tulane.edu (Mark Benard)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: PP14400 FXSA <--> Zoom 2400 V.42bis
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:21:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-10828]: thoth

In article <1992Aug12.161759.1@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu> skolodzieski@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu writes:
>
>I cannot get the Zoom V.42bis to talk with the PP14400 using LAPM(V.42),
>my connection always goes to ALT (MNP 5) for the protocol. Now the Zoom
>V.42bis has connected to other modems using LAPM and it worked great.
>I tried reconfiguring the PP14400 in various ways but it will not not
>negotiate a LAPM connection!

I found that the Zoom modem has trouble negotiating with both the PP modem
and the Telebit Worldblazer.  You can get around that by setting the Zoom NOT
to negotiate but to assume LAP-M.  I used one like that for several months
dialing into each of the two modems I mentioned without any further
difficulties.  Sorry but I do not recall which switch it is, and I have given
my modem, manual, and list of settings to someone else.  However, it is very
easy to find in the manual by browsing through the switches.

If you have no luck, write me and I can retrieve the whole list of settings I
used.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: larsen@unislc.uucp (Steve Larsen)
Subject: What's a good 14400 modem??
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:46:02 GMT

I know that this mas been asked before, but I am looking for a good,
reliable 14400 modem, and I was wondering what everyone thought about
which one is the best.  The main ones I have been looking at are
Supra, Boca, and Zoom.  I have heard good and bad about all of them.  I
am having some problems getting a clear description of what exactly the
function of the UART chip is.  Some people say that you don't need it
unless you have an internal modem, some say otherwise.  Could someone
please explain what exactly this chip does, and what the advantage
of having the 16550 over the 16450 is (also what is the equivalent of
Rockwell's 16460?).  Any opinions or responses are greately appreciated.

Thanx,

Steve (larsen@unislc.slc.unisys.com)
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Companies that have modems upgradeable to V.FAST
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:59:44 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Aug20.064234.23827@sdf.lonestar.org>,
mo@sdf.lonestar.org (Mohit Goyal) writes: 

> Hello.  I have read on this echo that USR, ZyXEL, and Hayes all have stated
> that they have modems that will be upgradeable to V.fast.
> ... 
> Hayes - ?????

Hayes has made no such statement.

> Which Hayes modems will be upgradeable to v.fast?  The new Optima 14.4k
> faxmodem?
> Also, has Hayes stated what kind of upgrade it will be?

Hayes has said nothing about V.fast, beyond the fact that we are an 
active participant in the work on the standard. No announcements 
have been made about V.fast products or upgrades of any kind. 

In my humble opinion (not necessarily that of my employer), such 
announcements are QUITE premature, since to make them requires 
making a lot of assumptions about what the V.fast standard will end 
up being -- and that is quite uncertain at this point. Any 
manufacturer who is including enough hardware in their modems today 
to do WHATEVER V.fast ends up being -- regardless of how complex -- 
is unnecessarily charging their current users for much more 
horsepower than they need, regardless of how cheap they claim the 
eventual upgrade might be.  My strong advice (which has nothing to 
do with who I work for) is to use extreme caution right now with 
taking any manufacturer up on their offer of a modem that will be 
upgradable to V.fast; there's just too much uncertainty.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: zoltrix 2400 b modem
From: twaugh@patch.almanac.bc.ca  (Ted Waugh)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:01:52 PDT
Organization: Ladysmith BC Waffle Site (motto: help others)


I am using a Zoltrix 2400 baud modem and am having problems.

The system that the modem is being used on is a 386dx-33mhz.
The modem is configured for com4 and has bnu170 as the fossil
driver.  FrontDoor 2.02 is used to initialize and answer the phone.

The initialization string contains the &C1&D3 that should ensure
that the "carrier detected, initializing the modem (3 times)," loop
should not occur.  This has not happened with other modems.  The
documentation that came with the modem was so sparse that the
modem was _not_ a bargain.  This modem is not the fax modem, just the
plain vanilla 2400 modem.

If anyone has this modem and has been successful in getting the modem
to initialize and behave itself under FrontDoor, I'd really appreciate
the init string sent to me netmail.

I have tried the echo ATH0&C1>com4 hack.  It does not work in this
instance.

Thanks for your assistance,

Ted

twaugh@patch.almanac.bc.ca
From: Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Dial tones
X-Sender: newtout 0.01 Jul 13 1992
Date: 17 Aug 92  10:35:24

 > Organization: Michigan Technological University
 > From: ajchuah@mtu.edu ([*BARK*])
 > Message-ID: 1992Aug17.040719.4553@mtu.edu
 > Reply-To: ajchuah@mtu.edu
 > Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems


 > Hi netters,
 >           I plan to buy a high speed modem and i am looking
 > into USR or ZyXEL.  My main problem is i plan to take it back
 > home with me, i am from Malaysia.  I will be here(US) for a
 > while more but i understand there may be dial tone problems
 > if i take a US made modem back home with me.  Anyone know of any
 > way to get by such problems?  Is there a way to "teach" these
 > modems to understand dial tones?  Any info related to this
 > topic is welcome.  Thanx in advance.

The ZyXEL line of modems are widely used overseas with no problems with
dialtone detection.  There is also a way to turn off dialtone detections also.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA


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