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From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: HP name resolver library (SUMMARY)
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:43:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.214625.27523@news.acns.nwu.edu> 
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>If I have a 3rd party package that needs a BSD style name resolver
>library (libresolv.a) to compile. Can I find this/ get this from HP?

Thanks to many people who pointed out that HP includes the routines
that BSD puts in the "resolv" library in the regular libc.a or libc.sl
libraries.  Removing the reference to the BSD library name got
the code to compile.

-- 
    Albert Lunde                      Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: abl@cybill.inesc.pt (Antonio Leal)
Subject: Escape auto-boot (was Re: Init level at boot)
Organization: INESC - Inst. Eng. Sistemas e Computadores, LISBOA. PORTUGAL.
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:38:31 GMT

mdf@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Fox) writes:
> [most of v.good post ommitted]
>
>   - interrupt the auto-boot sequence by hitting the ESCAPE key

Side question on this issue:  does anyone know what can cause
the auto-boot to be _impossible_ to escape to the ISL prompt ?

The situation is this: after an installation of an additional 1,3 GB
HP disk on a 720 (HP-UX 8.05), the message saying "hit ESCAPE to stop
auto-select" (or something similar) stopped showing up.  Hitting
escape doesn't bring up the ISL prompt.  The right disk boots, but
the choice is gone.

I've talked to HP support;  I think we agreed it must be a setting
in non-vol. memory - which would take a boot error (like removing the
boot disk) to allow the ISL menus to come back and fix.  I'd appreciate
any other suggestions.

[Reading the man pages for pdc and isl, my guess is that I should
try to run isl to fix the 'autosearch' setting, which is probably
off.  Can I do that on a running system ?  I tried copying (with lifcp)
/dev/dsk/6s0:ISL, but it didn't run ...]

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+351.1.310 0300		| R. Alves Redol 9, 1000 Lisboa
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: joe@jmc.oe.fau.edu (Joe Cuschieri)
Subject: General Questions
Keywords: nettl, dump, shutdown
Organization: Florida Atlantic University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:04:42 GMT

I am running HP-UX 8.00 on a model 9000 345 HP system.  Since upgarding to 8.00 I have been having the follwoing errors.  I tried all I can think of, but to no avail.  I would therefore appreciate any help on the matter.

(a) During the boot process I get the message:

Warning:	Unable to configure dump device...using primary swap insted.

what is the dump device?, Should I be setting this device using mknod?  If so, what is the format of the command?

(b) Also during the boot process I get the message:

Initializing the tracing and logging...
nettl:	Warning:	The device /dev/nettrace and/or /dev/netlog is not 					present continuing with the initialization of Trace/Log 				facility.
			Kernel tracing/logging cannot be done.

/dev/nettrace and /dev/netlog both exist and I have removed them and rerun the customize script to make sure they were set up properly.  But still the same error.  These devices are set with permission 666 and they are character files.

(c) When performing backups using SAM, with the backup media being a 9144 cartridge tape, after the first tape I get the error:

EOT and no input device available
cannot unload tape /dev/update.src

The backup process then dies returing to the SAM screen???

(d) If I execute "shutdown 0" to bring the system in single user mode, the system is left in a confused state !  After the system displays on the console the standard stuff and shows starting init level sa, a message is printed to the effect that shutdown process timed out.  The keyboard does not function properly and weird things happen.  Things work fine if instead of shutdown I use the commane "init s".  Any suggestions??

I would certainly appreciate any help that anyone can give on these questions. I have certianly spent a lot of time trying to eliminate these warings or errors.


Joe Cuschieri
joe@jmc.oe.fau.edu
Florida Atlantic University

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II)
Subject: Help! Dinosaur - HP 100/150
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:40:39 GMT

Greetings, fellow netters.

	I've offered to fix an old computer for a low-income friend of
mine.  I had no idea what kind of trouble I'd be getting into!

	The computer is an HP Model 100, Series 150.  It includes a 
Model 9122 disk drive.  The documentation places the maunfacturing date
of this system at about 1984.  I can get the thing to boot with the 
standard system disk, and it seems to run, of all things, Microsoft's
MS-DOS 2.11.  The disks were actually readable on a DOS 5.0 system that
I own.  There's a menu-driven system that you're supposed to use to select
programs, but I can get out to the shell just fine.

	The problem with the system seems to be the B drive of the 9122
disk.  I can't do anything with it - and you want to leave the system/
program disk in the A drive if you can, since the system has no hard drive.
I've also noticed that the total disk space on the floppies is a little 
lower than standard - 640K vs. 720K.  So, here are my questions.

1)  I'd rather not fool with such an ancient version of DOS.  What's 
inside the HP?  If I could find a more current version of DOS, can I
run it on the HP? 

2)  Disk drive repair is beyond my ability.  Can I replace the 9122?  Can
I replace it with something that will read a standard 720K DOS disk?  Can
I get something that includes a small hard disk?  Can I get something
CHEAP?

	Thanks in advance!

-- 
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"Great composers do not borrow -	     "Talking about music is like
 they steal."  - John Ladasky	      ~ -     dancing about architecture."
(quote stolen from Stravinsky, who    o o     - Elvis Costello?  Laurie
 stole it from a statement made by     >        Anderson?  Frank Zappa?
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 stole it from...)			     "Property is theft." - Groucho
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jns@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Jeff Squires)
Subject: Re: General Questions
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:17:52 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Hi there -- I am qualified to answer only for your a) question. Here's what 
I have. This message:

Warning: unable to configure dump device...using primary swap instead.
core image of 3071 pages will be saved at block 192821 on device 0x70e0500

Comes from the fact that there is an undocumented kernel parameter to 
specify to which physical device the kernel will write a kernel core dump.
Because this undocumented parameter was not set in your dfile, you get this
message. If it were necessary for HP support people to redirect the output 
from the kernel routine "savecore", not to be confused with the command
savecore(1m), to some other device then we could dig up this information
and get it to you.

In the meantime, it is better to leave it as it is, as it defaults to your
primary swap area which is available for this task after a panic anyway.
There are normally few reasons to change it.

To verify this try this: (as root -- BE CAREFUL !!!!!)

# adb /hp-ux /dev/kmem                      <----- You type this
executable file = /hp-ux
core file = /dev/kmem
 - warning: core file is mem or kmem
 ready
_dumpdev/X                                  <----- You type this (you do NOT
_dumpdev:       0x70E0500                          get a prompt)
<cntrl>d                                    <----- You type this
# 

Note that 0x70E0500 maps to the number that was reported at boot time.


hope this helps ....................

Jeff Squires (an old FAU grad) EE class of '77 (second Bacalaureat degree)
From: kev@hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (Kevin Jones)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:18:15 GMT
Subject: Re: HP 3570A SCSI DAT Drive on 9000 - is it possible?
Organization: HP Computer Peripherals Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

mkdir /dev/rmt
mknod /dev/rmt/0m      c 54 0x0e0302   # rewind
mknod /dev/rmt/0mn     c 54 0x0e0303   # No rewind

(That assumes SCSI ID 3)

Then add driver 'scsitape' to dfile etc.....

Whilst the 'mac' version of the 35470A is not "officially supported" on 
HP-UX, I can't think of any differences in the firmware that would break
anything.

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                                   | Computer Peripherals Bristol,
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                                   | Stoke Gifford,
Tel: 011 44 272 228351             | Bristol.   BS12 6QZ.
                                   | ENGLAND.
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This response does not represent the official position of, or
statement by, the Hewlett-Packard Company.  The above data is
provided for informational purposes only. It is supplied
without warranty of any kind.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,uiuc.sys.hp
From: tdrg8341@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tim Raymund)
Subject: BLAS libraries for the HP
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:56:42 GMT
Keywords: BLAS, basic linear algebra, lapack

I've recently installed the numerical library LAPACK (replaces
EISPACK and LINPACK) and noted in the BLAS docs that manufactureres 
may have a specially optimized version of the BLAS available.  (BLAS
stands for Basic Linear Algebra Subroutines I think).

Is there a specially optimized version of the BLAS available for the 700
series machines?

thanks,
tim.

Tim Raymund                                       | phone:    217/333-2931
Space Science & Remote Sensing Laboratory         | fax:      217/244-5624
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering | internet: t-raymund@uiuc.eduThird Floor North CSRL, MC-229                    |
1308 West Main Street                             |
Urbana  IL  61801-2307                            |

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: HP name resolver library
Followup-To: poster
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:46:25 GMT

If I have a 3rd party package that needs a BSD style name resolver
library (libresolv.a) to compile. Can I find this/ get this from HP?

What about from other sources -- ftp sites and such.

(Our system has man pages for these functions but the library is 
not in evidence.)

Send e-mail to me and I will summarize replies.
-- 
    Albert Lunde                      Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: top for HPUX9.0
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:24:05 GMT

In article <1jr3qbINNd8g@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> bosch@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Gerhard Bosch) writes:
>I got that version of top and it looks like that it's not suitable for the
>memory I have in the maschine. I have 96 MB of RAM, but the numbers given
>by the program for free memory and used memory by different processing will
>never sum up to the physical memory.

I have never been able to make a lot of sense out of the memory usage
statistics from top either (except the "free" seems reasonable);
if anyone can explain in simple terms what those values are, I'd like
to hear it (the values come straight from the kernel in 'struct vmtotal',
items t_arm, t_rm, t_avm, t_vm and t_free (from <sys/vmmeter.h>)).

I didn't change the numbers top displays when I messed with it, just
the format so it would fit on one line for systems with 128 MB+, and
made sure that the conversion of the above t_* values from pages to KB
didn't overflow a 'short int'.
-- 
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 *******   As usual, I speak only for me, myself and I; nobody else   *******
E-mail: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca  Tel: (416)978-7094  Fax: (416)978-8775
From: pld@fc.hp.com (Paul_Dineen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: inverse to x11start
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:24:14 GMT
Organization: HP CLO/CoLL, Fort Collins, CO
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpfcrt.fc.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Kevin Caskey (kevin@carson.u.washington.edu) wrote:
: I am at a loss to find a way to log out on my hp9000-340.
: when I log in x windows does not start by default. To start it I
: issue the x11start command. X windows then starts up. However, I can not
: log out from x windows nor shut it down. Last night I shut off the machine
: just to log off. There must be a cleaner way.

  Are you using Motif?  If so, use a root window definition like the
  following in your .mwmrc file:

Menu "SystemMenu"
{
   "Window Manager"     f.title
   "refresh screen"     f.refresh
   "restart wm"         f.restart
   "quit wm"            f.quit_mwm			<--
}

 Associate this with a mouse button with something like:

Buttons "DefaultButtonBindings"
{
<Btn1Up>        root    f.menu "SystemMenu"		<--
<Btn2Up>        root    f.menu "Programs"
<Btn3Up>        root    f.menu "MachineMenu"

Meta <Btn1Down> window  f.raise_lower
Meta <Btn2Down> window  f.move
<etc>
}

 Then, use button 1 (in this case) to get the "SystemMenu" display, 
 then click on "quit wm".


 Actually, I organized this a little differently after I once accidentally
 "quit wm" when I meant to just "restart wm".  I put the "quit wm" on its
 own pane, with:

Menu "SystemMenu"
{
   "Window Manager"     f.title
   "refresh screen"     f.refresh
   "restart wm"         f.restart
   "quit wm"            f.menu "QuitMenu"
}

Menu "QuitMenu"
{
   "Quit window manager"     f.title
   "quit wm"            f.quit_mwm
}

From: heumann@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (John Heumann)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:56:18 GMT
Subject: Re: HP and the Akers resignation
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, gcarter@infoserv.com writes:

>   "He (Akers) finally concluded his credibility inside and 
>   outside is a real obstacle to moving ahead, and it would be 
>   better for the business to have a different chief executive."

>   Since this is clearly the same situation HP's Lew Platt is in, 
>   let's hope Lew makes the same decision.

HP's CEO for most of the last decade has been John Young who
retired in November.  Lew Platt has been CEO for all of two
months.  Before you start calling for drastic action, it
might be prudent to get the basic facts correct.

Second, if you choose to be unhappy as an HP investor, that's 
your choice.  I'm a happy one.  IBM hit a high in the low-to-mid
100's a few years ago and today is in the low-mid 50's.  HP
hit a low in the high 20's several years ago and today is
in the low-to-mid 70's having reached a peak in the mid 80's
along the way.  All computer stocks have been volatile lately.
Could it be your timing has been less than astute?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ron@drd.com (Ron.Madurski)
Subject: Mount a filesystem on a floppy...
Organization: DRD Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:54:05 GMT

I can look at a DOS floppy OK.
I can tar to the /dev/floppy device.
but I cannot create a new filesystem on the floppy and mount it.  Is
this normal?

/dev/floppy is a link to /dev/rdsk/0s0 and all of the device numbers and
permissions look OK.  It is OK physically since I can do other things
with the floppy disks.  I have tried a mediainit and a newfs and they
just hang the disk in a state where I cannot kill the process.  I have
to eject the floppy and let it abort on its own.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.

ron@DRD.Com           ||   Death, Taxes, and running out of disk space. ||
uunet!drd!ron         ||   3 things you can count on in life.           ||
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ron@DRD.Com           ||   Death, Taxes, and running out of disk space. ||
uunet!drd!ron         ||   3 things you can count on in life.           ||
From: fkittred@spchp13.BBN.COM (Fletcher Kittredge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: lemacs 19.4 on HP?
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:59:04
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., 10 Moulton Street, Cambridge, MA
	02138
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spchp13.bbn.com


Anyone have the fixes to Lucid Gnu Emacs version 19.4 to get it to run
on HP-UX (version 8.07 or greater)?


regards,
fletcher
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: strnadl@tph04.tuwien.ac.at (Christoph F.Strnadl)
Subject: SW for snake farms
Keywords: cluster of snakes, load-balancing
Reply-To: strnadl@tph01.tuwien.ac.at
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, TU Vienna
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:54:39 GMT

Snake-farm: a more or less loosely coupled bunge of snakes where one
            can share resources (e.g. balance the load over more 
            machines,...)

I understand that the concept of having a snake-farm is very con-
venient. There are even some applications running on snakes which
support such a farming, e.g. AVS lets you calculate the 3d-data on
one machine, whereas the actual rendering and displaying of the
data is done on a different one. I think (I'm no AVS specialist) that
it is the AVS-software which does this balancing and sharing (and
therefor, IMHO, I wouldn't exactly call that a 'farm', it's just
a very smart program aware of executing remote procedures).

Q: Is there any SW out there which would help us implement a snake
   farm for simple applications (from editing, compiling, linking
   to running small to big applications) ?

A (possibly incorrect): HP intends to provide something like a task-
   broker, which does the necessery distributing.

A (2nd one): NQS is available which provides a queueing system. Has
  NQS been successfully ported to HP7xx? 

A (3rd one): At the CERN computing center they have implemented a
  snake farm with 15 - 25 HP7xx's, but I don't know how they managed
  that.

A (4th one): Also at CERN the have implemented a scalable heterogenous
  network based on the fast, proprietary UltraNet-Bus. This has
  taken them approx. 10 men-years of SW development. We don't have
  that resources (and knowledge, BTW).

-cfs

-- 
Christoph F. Strnadl              | The term 'politically correct', co-
Institute for Theoretical Physics | opted by the white power elite as a
TU Vienna, Austria                | tool for attacking multiculturalism,
email: strnadl@tph01.tuwien.ac.at | is no longer politically correct.
From: rik@csc.liv.ac.uk (Rik Turnbull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Wyse60 terminal emulator
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:11:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

Does anyone have a Wyse60 terminal emulator for HP Series 700 or even know of
one that I could perhaps port.

Thanks in advance.

Rik Turnbull.
rik@csc.liv.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: blh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Bill Hassell)
Subject: Re: PhotoCD on 9000/7xx?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:01:42 GMT
Organization: the HP Response Center, Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

The Kodak PhotoCD format has several unique features.  First, it requires
CDROM-XA compatible drive and driver.  Also, the disc does not have a
filesystem in the HP-UX sense...it requires special software to read the
files.  The files are compressed and stored in Kodak-proprietary formats
which require software libraries from Kodak to read and display.

Until recently, no CDROM drive/driver combination could read multisession
discs. This is true of both the Mac and PC platforms as well as Un*x boxes.
Several manufacturers of CDROM drives and drivers are adding this capability,
which often requires hardware or firmware support within the drive.  So far,
no products have been announced by HP that will support PhotoCD discs.

Bill (sounds like a good idea though) Hassell
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Subject: Re: Keyboards for the hp.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:54:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.9 PL6]

: Does anyone know where I can get either a sun type 5 or ibm style
: keyboard for an hp9000/720?

HP P/N C1492A is a "PC-AT Keyboard", if that's what is meant by IBM style.
From: newsview@dowjone.UUCP (news source)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP 720 Mail alias Problems
Keywords: HP Mail Workstation
Date: 20 Jan 93 12:48:36 GMT
Reply-To: mikeb@eng.dowjones.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Dow Jones, Inc. Princeton, NJ

I am having a problem with my mail on my HP 720.  It seems that whenever I try  to mail a message to anyone  from my HP the local NIS alias is ignored and the  mail is always directed back to my workstation.  This has me confused since NIS works in every other respect.  If I do a 'ypcat hosts' the NIS hosts map is     returned to me.  If I mail to a specific address ex.'mikeb@test' the mail will  be delivered to that workstation.  But when ever I try to mail a message to the internet the message is rejecte


mikeb@eng.dowjones.com

From: petes@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Peter Smoot)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 20:24:46 GMT
Subject: Re: screen blanker for HP 9000/710
Organization: HP Information Networks Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, earl@jade.ab.ca (Earl Locken) writes:

earl>       Is there any public domain (or otherwise freely available)
earl> software I can use to blank the screen on an HP 9000/710,
earl> running HP-UX 8.07?  I have a user who does not like VUE and who
earl> would perfer to start from the generic login.  Unfortunately,
earl> the only screen blanker I can find seems to be embedded in VUE.
earl> Are there others out there?

Perhaps I misunderstand your question, but the stock 8.07 X server I'm
running automatically blanks the screen after 5 (configurable) minutes
of inactivity.

Now, if you want something other than a blank screen, that's a horse
of a different color.  I can't help you there.

-- Pete
From: ms496s553@sycom.mi.org (Mark Foren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: CATALOG of Products?
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:57:18 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.977

I am interested if anyone can send me an Address where i could recive a 
Catalog of All Hewlet Packard PRODUCTS..Thanks MARK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: 730 -> 735 upgrade
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:39:13 GMT
Reply-To: greg_cagle@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: upgrade
Followup-To: 

In article <43968@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair) writes:
>In article <C17JEq.Fws@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> gordon@madmax.uwaterloo.ca (Gordon R. Strachan) writes:
>>>with the upgrade.  Does anybody know if the 735 resulting from the
>>>upgrade is exactly the same as a 735 ordered new?  In particular,
>>Information on this varies depending on who you talk to.  Right now, I
>
>Our local HP SE said that you get the fast wide SCSI on the upgrade.
>However, the local Convex rep (who resells the HPs as a cluster)
>said that he talked to insiders at HP who insisted that the upgrade
>does *not* include the fast wide SCSI.

Well, I'm looking at a 735 upgrade right now, and it's got a port
on the I/O board labeled "16-bit Differential SCSI".

- Greg
-- 
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Mentor Graphics Corporation