HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: agbrooks@teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Zoz)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron-Peace War
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:00:50 GMT

In article <ogorman.702769023@unix1.tcd.ie>, ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge) writes:
|> In <UdsZx4600WBK09ZA9s@andrew.cmu.edu> jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Adam Nimpfer) writes:
|>
|> [too much. yawn. then gets flamed to death]
|>
|> Wow is everyone here slow or what? The guy is not a Christian. The stuff
|> he wrote was flamebait. He admits it. You all go off and tell him he
|> can't be a real Christian then. Do Americans have this sarcasm problem
|> in general (i.e. the inability to recognise it if it comes up to them
|> with a chainsaw and removes their legs). Nimpfer is an asshole as he
|> himself has admitted. Suaron is funny (and knows his Danzig quotes). I'm
|> tired and signing off. Please go and but a colllective sense of humour.
|>

Right on! And in case there was any doubt, here's an extract from the Spinal
Tap mailing list:

|> Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 21:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
|> From: John Adam Nimpfer <jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
|>
|> Since Spinal Tap is back in action, does anyone know if they'll be
|> appearing on Saturday Night Live this season?

This cum-siphon from hell was just trying to antagonise you lot. He succeeded,
but I still found the whole thing amusing, especially Suaron's election
campaign.

Metal: Got Coroner's "Punishment for Decadence" today and it kicks ass majorly!
       If you like fast, giz it a go.
--

                   __________        ____________________
                  |________  |      / ____  ___________  |
                          / /      / /    \ \         / /
                         / /      | |      | |       / /
                        / /       | |      | |      / /
                       / /_________\ \____/ /      / /_______
                      |____________________/      |__________|

                      agbrooks@teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: langlais@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Timothy E. Langlais)
Subject: Re: Metallica
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:36:44 GMT


In article <1992Apr8.142116.27238@sinkhole.unf.edu> swarde@unf6.unf.edu (Rico Swarde) writes:
>
>Also, my grades haven't dropped one bit since I started listening to
>metal (I actually did not start applying myself until after I
>started listening to metal!).  I am a National Merit Commended student
>(my PSAT score was in the top 50000 in the nation.)  I graduated
>seventh in a class of 600, with a weighted GPA of 4.38 (taking honors
>classes gives a quality point.  Thus, making A's in honors courses
>gives one a 5.0 vice a 4.0 for that class.)  I took many AP tests in
>high school and came to UNF with 28 college credits already under my
>belt (you only need 30 credits to achieve sophomore status!)

No one ever accused you of being stupid. All of this talk about GPA's
and SAT's is simply self-congratulatory bullshit.(As if a person's
general worth or intelligence could be quantified anyway..) Do we REALLY
need to know how your high school calculated GPA's? No, I think not. 

> 
>My college career is just as splendid:  I currently have a 4.0 GPA
>despite the fact that I have carried a full load every term (I started
>here in Fall of 1990), took honors classes (no quality points in college),
>and worked 15-20 hours every week.

Ooooo. Can I shake your hand? Stop patting yourself on the back, dude,
you and all of your numbers are not a big deal. This a METAL group,
after all, and not alt.ego.

> 
>My point:  your stereotype of 'metalhead' is seriously flawed. 

Several people already pointed this out. There really was no need to
repeat it. 

crash          I am the pundit of your putrid peoples!
From: apolansk@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Alan M. Polansky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron for alt.r-n-r.metal PRESIDENT!
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:51:33 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <92097.173716TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Its offical!  Its either me or Nimpfuck!  As President I vote to
>do the following:
>
>1) Continue my war on the posers
 [stuff deleted]
>I win!
>
>Vote:
>[ ] Suaron
>[ ] Nimpfuck
>Put and x in the box of the one you want to stay.
>
>--the mocking religon of hatred that burns in the night
>Suaron

Just to keep the poltical flavor, lets start a petition to add:
[ ] H.R. Perot


===/| |\/| |\=== " A thirst for the Hun, we were food for the gun,
==/-| |  | |/===   And that's what you are when your soldiers "
=/  | |  | |====   - Lemmy Kilmister "Motorhead - 1916"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: bianc@next10csc.wam.umd.edu (WierdnesS)
Subject: Re: BLACKSTORM postscript show flier
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:38:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.181814.5419@berlioz.nsc.com> pistol@lissette.nsc.com  
(Pete Turrini) writes:
> Hello,
>     Below is a postscript file that will print out a flier of an  
upcomming
> show on April 25, 1992 in the S.F. Bay Area!!!
>     Somebody please respond and let me know if this worked.
> 
>                                   Thanks, pistol
[helluvalot deleted]

no, it didn't work

( I think I did kinda the same mistake in rec.humor)
  LATER!


BIANC!
From: mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:41:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Maple is a ????
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal

In alt.rock-n-roll.metal, h309@quads.uchicago.edu (Tri-Ryche) writes:

> 
>   Just curious.... Is Maple a guy or a girl? Some people refer to Maple as
> a 'he', yet Maple sounds like a girl's name to me.... 

No Maple is a SAP

.
From: ti_hunt@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron-Peace War
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:48:13 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Apr7.200118.488@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, apolansk@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Alan M. Polansky) writes:
> In article <1992Apr7.194944.19687@news2.cis.umn.edu> ewk@landshark.micro.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) writes:
>>In <sdsFrge00WBK0_yAwu@andrew.cmu.edu> jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Adam Nimpfer) writes:
>>
>>I really couldn't give a fuck about either posting...  They have nothing to
>>do with heavy metal!  Keep it in e-mail	so the people here who don't want
>>to read this don't have to waste their time.
>>
>>Waitin' for the new Maiden...
>>
>>-Rick
> 
> The best post of the campaign (sp) so far!
> and a Damn good idea!
> 

I'll drink to that!

-Tim
From: eje47614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sir Tanon Drister)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Fates Warning
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:04:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

cthulhu@raybans.cis.ufl.edu (Mark Kupper) writes:

>In article <1992Apr13.212425.54449@cc.usu.edu> sl7w3@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Apr13.172011.24303@midway.uchicago.edu>, h309@quads.uchicago.edu (Unknown Author) writes:
>>     No.
>>     If you want to get into Fates Warning, I would suggest 'No Exit' first,
>>It's definately their best, but their old stuff is fucking killer...'Parallels
>>really sucks (for Fates Warning)...they kind of pulled a MetalliBOB on it...
>>they've pretty much abandoned their old music, I was not impressed with
>>'Parallels' what so ever.
>>
>>'Too late to annul, so I plan her demise
>> Creative Divorce - asphyxiate the bride'     Mike Fonnesbeck.

>  'Awaken the Guardian' is their best by a long shot!! The singer in No Exit 
>   gets on my nerves.

I disagree....all of their material has its merits...John Arch had a great high-end voice, and he fit in with what they were doing on the first three albums...but with the change to Ray Alder, they took off on a new vein of music which was great in and of itself.  Alder's voice is more refined than Arch's voice, I feel, and the sound in general of the current lineup is cleaner and more musically intelligent than before...Parallels is a great CD, and while it's not as heavy as their earlier material, it's a




 testament to the type of musical exploration that Fates Warning is known for.

___________________________________
Most of this is memory now...
I've gone too far to turn back now.
I'm not quite what I thought I was,
but, then again, I may be more....

	- Sir Tanon
From: salaris@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrabbits)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: AXL ROSE....in trouble again
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:16:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr17.141613.5553
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Well, as most of you already know, Axl Rose has been dodging the law
over the past week or so in an attempt to avoid being arrested on
misdemeanor charges stemming from his temper tantrum in St. Louis.

As you have heard, he cancelled a show in Chicago and two other
shows in the midwest since St. Louis police are making efforts to
get him arrested so he can make a court appearance (for which he has
been allowed 8 months to do).  Well, he is still living his rock-n-roll
fugitive lifestyle and has headed off to England to prepare for
the Freddy Mercury AIDS concert this weekend.

Well, I have heard tell that U.S. Customs will be waiting
for Mr. Rose when he tries to return to the States.
So, he will either have to "face the music" or not be allowed
back in the country.

To illustrate the overall stupidity of rock's latest idol,
Axl Rose faces misdemeanor charges that may cost him about $3000
or so dollars in fines.  He has lost over $3,000,000 due to
cancelling the three concerts.



--
Steven C. Salaris                We're...a lot more dangerous than 2 Live Crew
salaris@carcs1.wustl.edu         and their stupid use of foul language because
				 we have ideas.  We have a philosophy.
					      Geoff Tate -- Queensryche
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jborzell@oak.math.ucla.edu (Joseph Borzellino)
Subject: Re: Sabbath/Frost covers
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:48:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.144313.9055@ncsu.edu> cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS) writes:
>>"War Pigs" by Sacred Reich on "Surf Nicaragua" (I think)
>>"Supernaut" by 1000 Homo DJs on their self-title
>>"Into the Void" by Soundgarden on the "Rusty Cage" promo CD
>>"Into the Void" by Exhorder on "The Law"
>>"After Forever" by Deliverance on "What a Joke"
>>"Paranoid" by Steel Pole Bath Tub on ???
>>"Hand of Doom"(I think) by Reverand on ???
>>"Black Sabbath Medly" by Candlemass on "Ancient Dreams"
>>also I believe Overkill has one on a promo single, but I don't know the song

The song is "Hole in the Sky", on Live 'Kill, a promo CD with a live version
of E.Vil N.ever D.ies

>
>Well there's "Symptom of the Universe" by Deathwish on _Demon Preacher_
>
>And how about "Iron Man" by Sir Mix-a-Lot ?   ;-) :-(  :-O
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: At War with Nimpfer (all read this)
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:28:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr7.172809.3213
Organization: UB

jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Adam Nimpfer) writes:

>>No, thank you very much, I'd much rather read Suaron's posts.  At least he
>>has an IQ above that of minerally deficient dirt...
>> 
>>Tori
>Dearest Victoria,
>    Were you referring to me or yourself?
I do believe the young lady was referring to the Jim Bakker wanna-be
who wants to purge a.r-n-r.m of metal and turn it into rec.music.christian.
I do believe she was referring to you, Mr. Nimrod.

"RUN WITH THE DEVIL / SHOUT SATAN'S MIGHT! / SUARON! SUARON! / THE BEAST RISES
TONIGHT!!!"

--Don
-- 
/ Don Becker at the University at Buffalo  --  Any comments? Post or mail 'em \
| Internet: v112mc2t@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu      BITNET: v112mc2t@ubvms.BITNET |
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\ "The spirit of misplaced childhood is rising to speak his mind." -Marillion /
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Explaining HEAVY BASS???????
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:29:15 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

The Who. John Entwhistle. God.
From: h309@quads.uchicago.edu (Tri-Ryche)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Maple is a ????
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:13:45 GMT
Reply-To: h309@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Mindcrime


  Just curious.... Is Maple a guy or a girl? Some people refer to Maple as
a 'he', yet Maple sounds like a girl's name to me.....
From: jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Adam Nimpfer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: At War with Nimpfer (all read this)
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:16:07 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Suaron,
    I accept the terms of your challenge.  Everyone can now start voting
for the one they want to stay.  But remember this, do you want to
continue seeing 300 posts a month by Suaron, condemning posers and every
other subject that has been dragged out on this bboard?   Or...do you
want to see about one post a week from a highly intelligent, witty, God
fearing Christian?  The choice is yours, people...the future is in your
hands.  I have faith in all of you. 
                                                             Peace
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: dxk21@po.cwru.edu (Dave)
Subject: Re: Lillian Axe
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:59:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.082944.29910@cc.tut.fi> kent@cc.tut.fi (Kentt{l{ Marko) writes:


>In <PA_SJS.92Apr9124046@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu> pa_sjs@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Steve J. Singer) writes:
>>Has anyone heard their music?  They are a Louisiana based band with an awesome
>>sound!  Their album, Poetic Justice, was resently released and was wondering
>>if anyone else has listened to them?  Please get back to me...

>I definetly have. I have 'Love and War' and if I remember right it is their
>second album.

>So are the 1st and 3rd albums as good as LaW ?

     Their first album was a bit more commercial than Love and War.  It 
wasn't bad, but you can definately see growth in the songs and in the 
heaviness (ex: letters in the rain, fool's paradise).  The third album
was like a "best of" the first two because they changed record labels
and also the original self-titled album became hard to get for anyone 
looking today.  


later


Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:6653 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:1192
From: jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (Burg JFM)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden Gifs
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:37:06 GMT


The files you can find in the ftp-site cs.uwp.edu (131.210.1.4) do have the
.gif -suffix, but are NOT gif-files. I had the same problem when I
down-loaded them. 

My solution was the pbmplus-toolkit. If you have got or you can a get a
grip on it (I believe it is on another ftp-site, but I don't know which
one), your problems are over. 

If you look at the files, you see that the first sentence of each file
contains 'P4'. This is some magic number to indicate that the file is in
PNM-format. A simple conversion to PostScript, is 'pnmtops', which you can 
find in the pbmplus-toolkit!

If it was a GIF-file, the first sentence would contain 'GIF' !!

Good luck with it,
				Hans
From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: The new Bobby McFerrin Album
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:29:34 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <92103.155351TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.185505.350@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
>tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald) says:
>>
>[Questions about bobby mcferrin's album deleted]
>
>>He was recently through here playing with the San Antonio Pops, so he's
>>currently on tour and I wouldn't expect a new album for a while.  I'm
>>of the first guys opinion (If you think it's metal then it is), so I
>>thought you deserved an answer.  As long as you really thought it was...
>
>It was obviously a joke moron.  I think he was trying to prove a
>point which flew way above your head.  Of course what do you expect
>from people who believe any form of music that you desire to call
>metal is.  Here's a suggestion, go look for your creator Dr. Frankenstien
>and ask him to give you a brain, ok.
>
>
>--slide with me to your netherworld, emotion exquisite in sweet demise
>Suaron

Suaron you blitherin idiot.  Talk about a joke going over someone's head?!?
He was trying to make a lame point with his Bobby McFerrin question and
I replied as "ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer".

Now I know you have trouble with this, so let me tell you outright.  This is
_not_ a joke and this _is_ a flame.  Hopefully you'll understand since I've
now written it out for you.

Maybe it's not the water, but the air in Pennsylvania...

						-Tom
-- 
Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
Any Questions?
"Yeah, can I have mine scrambled?"
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Manitoba's Kingdom
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:56:37 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Apr7.212101.5817@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>	Does anyone know if Manitoba's Kingdom is any good? I used to love
>Manowar and heard the old members are in this band.

	Manitoba's Wild Kingdom is essentially a reunion of the Dictators,
a 70's rock band and ex-Manowar guitarist Ross-the-Boss's first band.
He's the only connection with Manowar at all -- the band sounds nothing
like Manowar -- more like anthemic hard rock (this is based on their
one hit of last year or whenever it was).  The album got good reviews,
but it's not my kind of music (and yes, I am a Manowar fan) ...

					Brian
-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
..!sdcsvax!bruss	bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: ti_hunt@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: PRAISE BROCKUM, LORD OF ALL THINGS ETERNAL AND FLESHLY
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:50:23 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Apr6.013809.1@pomona.claremont.edu>, cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
> In article <92097.023907TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>, <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> 
>> sajfkasdflkjas
>> 
> 
> 	Is this a Bible verse?


	No, I think he tossed his cookies.
From: v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (WAYNE CAMPBELL)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Slash is not a racist!!! (Get SUARON off this board)
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92100.123758TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>, TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes...

>Who cares?  I mean really who the fuck cares?  Its better for people to
>express their hatred of something than to keep it bottled up inside of
>them, true.  I don't care about what the hell Axl sings about, and I
>shouldn't have to read about it on this newsgroup cause its not metal.
>Is that such a fuckin' hard concept to understand.  How the hell did
>you get past first grade?  Let alone learn how to use a computer?

you heard of somethin called a killfile??  oh and by the way, i sang my
way thru first grade, and i was taught how to use a computer by space
trained monkeys

>A) I don't sit up all fuckin' night at my computer.  The only reason why
>I may post articles late in the night is because I occassionally work into
>the weee fuckin' hours of the morning.  Do you know what having a job is
>like? B) I tend to post alot, especially this semester cause I get bored
>working on my computer assignments.  Excuse me!  C) Hey! I'm one of Danzig's
>fans and I know alot of lyrics from just listening to his albums but I
>don't sit there and memorize them until I can recite everything he ever
>wrote. 

yes, i do know what having a job is like, and i hate it too!! i hate fucking
coming home smelling like hamburgers and putting up with old ladies who claim
to be senior citizens so they can scam their way to a free cup of coffee.
ok, yes, there is something wrong with a person who memorizes lyrics to any
fuckin group, let alone GNR.  although i like the music, i don't agree with
all of it, but it's their prerogative what they put on their records and it
pisses me off to hear someone be called a racist when all the facts aren't 
known.  there is no humor involved in racism!!  and if you think there is,
run for president in south africa, better yet, wear a white sheet, run for
president of the usa, and campaign in harlem, ny!!! so, agreed, anyone who
memorized GNR lyrics is a dangerous fuckin individual!!

>You can't overthrow my regime.  I'm eternal!

does that mean you plan on going to college forever, or what??

>--You got some fuckin' attitude, I can't believe what you say to me
>Suaron

to paraphrase the king of dark rock and roll, a man who deserves a stamp more
than Elvis does-

"I am the attitude king, I can do anything!!!"

incidentally, i thought the postings about Bret Michaels joining Megadeath
and Vince Neil joining Metallica were quite biting, poignant, and downright
hilarious, you should write for Saturday Night Live, they need better writers!

      /\_M_/\
     /MATTMAN\
    //\/\ /\/\\
         V
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: *MENTAL FLATULENCE RAMPANT ON NEWSGROUP!  NO ANSWERS EXIST!
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:34:24 PDT


	Whatever, Kev.

	Your dogma isn't backed up, but you've put your back to it.

	Quite simply, we agree to disagree.


<c>.
From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: DLR quotes wanted
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:05:05 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD

This is the second and last call (for a while) for David Lee Roth
quotes. (Like f.i. "The worlds a stage and I want the brightest spot", but
longer quips like 'the red-short-theory' are certainly welcome too!) I am 
collecting them and will post the collection at the beginning of next 
week. Send them my Email please.


Nat!
P.S. The alt.rock-n-roll article had a wrong header, so here it comes again
slightly edited.
-- 
Email: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
         "Bang that bit that doesn't bang"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: vcf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Victoria C Fike)
Subject: Re: Metallica
Organization: Columbia University
Summary: I *despise* narrow minded bigots...
Reply-To: vcf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Victoria C Fike)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:34:37 GMT


[Story containing undoubtedly twisted version of the facts deleted]

Well, a couple of things:

1)  As Suaron said, "Bennie" seems to have had plenty of psychological 
    problems before he discovered metal.

2)  What about those of us who listen to metal AND play D&D yet manage to 
    make highest honors/dean's list every semester?  What say you to THAT,
    O Narrow-minded, bigoted one? 

3)  Your priest's story was, more than likely, an allegory.  That is, it's
    not meant to be taken literally.  If you're too mindless to realize
    this, you have no place teaching us.

So take your asinine, puerile mouthings elsewhere.

Tori

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