From: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Football Failures at Bowie Force end of Season
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:57:26 GMT
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fred j mccall 575-3539 (mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com) wrote:
: >Wrong.  I don't have enough information to make a decision one way or another.
: 
: Excuse me, but that isn't what you seem to have been saying.  You've
: even gone so far is to assert that you think no-pass/no-play was
: randomly imposed as an arbitrary rule because the people making up the
: rules felt like playing those kind of 'power games'.

Once again for the comprehension-challenged:

What I don't have enough information to make a decision about is whether
people who don't graduate from high school commit more crimes than people
who do.  I never asserted the opposite, I just want to know how you came to
that conclusion.  I suspect it's just a hunch.

: >:                      You insist that I must have 'proof' for my
: >: assertion with regard to the relative proportions of non-high school
: >: graduates in the criminal and overall population.
: 
: >Right, because you made the assertion.
: 
: And you made the counter-assertion.

I didn't.  I'm asking you to support your assertion.  I don't know the answer.

: No, it's my 'standard cop out' WHEN YOU CAN FIND THE ANSWER BY
: CHECKING ************ ANY ************ REPORT ON CRIME that contains
: the demographics.  Hell, pick one.  Check the FBI reports.  Check the
: Texas state reports.  Check ANY of them.

If it's so damn obvious, why can't you cite even one?  Perhaps because you 
didn't look?

: Hell, EVERYONE apparently is
: aware of this correlation but you, John.  Even John Haugh has stated
: that the correlation does, in fact, exist.

EVERYONE?  John Haugh is the only one who has commented on this at all.

: So I'll ask the OBVIOUS question, John.  Just what the hell ARE you,
: since the stands you take seem to be pretty much in accord with what
: people would call 'libertarian'.

But then you said I wasn't a REAL libertarian.  If you're going to label me, 
at least be consistent.  I never said I was one, however.  Apparently it's 
easier for you to bash your concept of libertarianism, so be my guest.

: Who did you vote for (for example)? 

I voted for Marrou.  You voted for Clinton:  Are you a Democrat?

: A 'real' libertarian is one who is interested in liberty for
: EVERYBODY, and not just interested in their own profit and
: aggrandizement.

I'm interested in liberty for everybody.  Liberty doesn't mean you get to raid
my wallet.

: >: First, you need to look up what 'socialist' means.
: 
: >I will if you look up "libertarian".  Deal?
: 
: Pardon me, but I've GIVEN definitions for 'libertarian'.

Yeah, you sure did.  First you said a libertarian is a "self-proclaimed 
libertarian".  Nice circular definition.  And now in the same post where you 
say that you've given definitions for 'libertarian', you give another 
definition: one who is interested in liberty.  Sounds ok to me, but why don't 
you try a dictionary too?

: >Reality check:  A medical examiner determines cause of death.  Period.  I guess
: >you need to add this to the growing list of classes you need to take.
: 
: Or you do.  Gee, John, just who is it, do you think, that determines
: little details like time of death, if the body has been moved or not,
: and all those other little things that help determine whether the guy
: was really shot breaking and entering at the time claimed or whether
: he was shot elsewhere and then dragged inside so it could be claimed
: he was a burglar?

Actually he/she gives data to the police so that they can determine the
probable circumstances, but now we're splitting hairs.  OK, call the M.E.,
and when he/she's finished, then throw the body in the dumpster.  OK?

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John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
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