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From: electro@access.digex.com (Gary Ehrlich)
Subject: Re: WANTED- Planet Names from SF
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:16:40 GMT


From Lois McMaster Bujold's Vorkosigan Series:

Barrayar, Komarr, Escobar, Dendarii, Beta (Colony), Rodeo

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From: holger@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Holger Reusch (Dipl. Gerhard + Joe))
Subject: Re: WANTED- Planet Names from SF
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:15:21 GMT


francis@dogwood.atl.ga.us (John Stracke) writes:
>More Foundation stuff:
>  Anacreon (one of the Four Kingdoms--don't remember the others)

The three other kingdoms are Konom, Daribow and Smyrno (I named four
network nodes in the department where I'm working after them.  The main
node is, of course, called Terminus :-)

Then there is Santanni, Locris and a host of other far-away places I
don't remember.  I guess it's time re-reading the Grand Trilogy...

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From: pp8851@sjfc.UUCP (Pamela Principe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: dune (is there a fan club)
Keywords: dune
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:55:52 GMT
Reply-To: pp8851@sjfc.UUCP (Pamela Principe)
Organization: Saint John Fisher College, Rochester, NY


 	is there a fan club based on either the movie or the book?

	if you know please e-mail address and any other revelant
information. 


Thanks in advance.


plp
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: 21st Century Soldier
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:43:19 GMT
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA

In article <12SEP199211510024@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov> olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson) writes:
}In article <5029@balrog.ctron.com>, mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes...
}>(James Meritt) writes:
}>>(Paul Olson) writes:
}>
}>[stuff deleted]
}> 
}>That said, I slightly differ with Paul, in that an initial advantage can shorten
}>the conflict. That advantage can be tech or tactics.  Look at the difference
}
}Definitely agree.
}
}>And a long war is what we want most to avoid.
}
}To quote Sun Tzu:
}
}	Supreme excellence consists in breaking an enemy's resistance
}	without fighting.

Sorta like 24-hour-a-day saturation bombing, making pseudo-earthquakes a
daily part of life.  Demoralizing, that...
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From: wehumble@IASTATE.EDU (Ed Humble)
Subject: Re: WANTED- Planet Names from SF
Reply-To: wehumble@IASTATE.EDU (Ed Humble)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:15:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.183750.740@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, michaelb@cse.fau.edu
(Michael Rogero Brown) writes:
> People of the Net:
> 
> I am trying to put together a list of fictious planets for use as
> names for some Sparcstations.  Our current set are named for the
> planets of the Sol System, and I thought it would be neat to have the
> rest be named for other planets.  Unfortunatly I can only think of a
> few.  Can any one help.  Please email to cut down on the bandwidth.
> 
> I have so far:
> 
>     Barsoom     (ERBurrough's Mars)
>     Yuggoth     (Lovecraft's Pluto)
>     Vulcan
>     Nemesis     (the 10th planet)
> 
> Any Others?
> 
> Thanks in advance
	
	This is going to be a bit difficult, since many SF planets are named for places
on Earth.  

		Romulus
		Klingus  -  Klingon homeworld ??
		Tanith   -  Pournelle's CoDominium prison planet
		Mote Prime - Niven and Pournelle, Mote in God's Eye
			
 
> <<                                                               >>
> << Michael R. Brown    CS Graduate Student-Florida Atlantic Univ >>
> << Internet: michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu                            >>
> << BitNet: m_brown@fauvax                                        >>


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  "`Ecrasez l'infame.'  I looked it up.  What infamous thing do you wish to
eradicate?"

  "What infamous thing have you got?"
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From: lindsay+@cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay)
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke -  L. Ron Hubbard  Bar Bet
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:05:01 GMT


Mathias.Koerber@ap.mchp.sni.de (Mathias Koerber) writes:

>I heard, that Scientology is the result of a bar bet between Arthur
>C Clarke and L Ron Hubbard about who could create the weirdest
>religion. Clarke took it literally and wrote a book, L Ron Hubbard
>created a real religion.

I would appreciate any input to improving the following, which
I developed for "alt.religion.scientology":

---------------< FAQ: "start a religion" >------------------------

One form of the famous rumor is that L. Ron Hubbard made a bet with
Bob Heinlein. This is definitely not true: it's uncharacteristic
of Heinlein, and there's no supporting evidence.

Another claim is that George Orwell said it first - that if you
really wanted to make money, you should start a religion.  I don't
have a reference for that claim, but if it's true, that would merely
make the "joke" unoriginal.

The usual form of the famous rumor is that LRH joked about it.
The following is the supporting evidence that it's true.

"Whenever he was talking about being hard up he often used to say
that he thought the easiest way to make money would be to start a
religion."
-- reporter Neison Himmel: quote in "Bare Faced Messiah" p.117 from 1986
interview.  He shared a room with LRH, briefly, Pasadena,fall 1945.

"I always knew he was exceedingly anxious to hit big money - he used
to say he thought the best way to do it would be to start a cult."
-- Sam Merwin, then the editor of the "Thrilling" group of magazines:
quote in "Bare Faced Messiah" p.133 from 1986 interview. Winter of 1946/47.

"Around this time he was invited to address a science fiction group
in Newark hosted by the writer, Sam Moskowitz. `Writing for a penny
a word is ridiculous,' he told the meeting. `If a man really wanted
to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be start his
own religion.'
-- "Bare Faced Messiah" p.148. Reference given to LA Times, 27 Aug 78.
Happened in spring 1949.

"Science fiction editor and author Sam Moscowitz tells of the occasion
when Hubbard spoke before the Eastern Science Fiction Association
in Newark, New Jersey in 1947:
`Hubbard spoke ... I don't recall his exact words; but in effect,
he told us that writing science fiction for about a penny a word
was no way to make a living. If you really want to make a million,
he said, the quickest way is to start your own religion.'"
-- "Messiah or Madman", p.45 No reference given. Yes, the spelling
of Sam's name differs: this quote got it wrong, it has a "k". I
don't know why the books disagree by two years.

The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction lists Sam as the first good
historian of science fiction [among other things].

--------------------------< END >---------------------------------
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From: cs611125@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs611125)
Subject: Re: WANTED- Planet Names from SF
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:20:40 GMT

From Cordwainer Smith's universe:
Shayol, Norstrilia, Pontoppidan, Mizzer

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,alt.cyberpunk
From: loos@amber.mgh.harvard.edu (William D.B. Loos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Tolkien Book List on r.a.sf.w
Date: 10 Sep 92 06:35:00 GMT
Organization: Molecular Biology, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


A Tolkien Book list has been posted to rec.arts.sf.written (we can't 
crosspost here).


William D.B. Loos
loos@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu
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From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke - L. Ron Hubbard Bar Bet
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:57:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.133058.11335@crd.ge.com> meltsner@crd.ge.com writes:

>It is true that John Campbell fell for Dianetics in a big way, to the
>point of having authors rewrite stories to fit better with the
>Dianetic way of thinking.  Bester and others have documented this bit.

When he was Guest of Honor at Lunacon (sometime around 1969), John W.
Campbell was asked -"When Dianetics was first started, you were very
supportive, even publishing the initial tract in Astounding.  Later,
you opposed it.  Why did you change your mind?"- [I don't remember the
exact wording of the question.]  JWC snapped back: "Bastard never gave
me my 20%."

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
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From: olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson)
Subject: Re: 21st Century Soldier
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.misc
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Mission Operations and Data Systems
Date: 12 Sep 1992 11:51 EST  

In article <5029@balrog.ctron.com>, mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes...
>(James Meritt) writes:
>>(Paul Olson) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
> 
>That said, I slightly differ with Paul, in that an initial advantage can shorten
>the conflict. That advantage can be tech or tactics.  Look at the difference

Definitely agree.

>And a long war is what we want most to avoid.

To quote Sun Tzu:

	Supreme excellence consists in breaking an enemy's resistance
	without fighting.

Kinda like what happened to the old Soviets.

>[stuff deleted]
> 
>Matt

Dr. Forbin
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From: Mathias.Koerber@ap.mchp.sni.de (Mathias Koerber)
Subject: Arthur C. Clarke -  L. Ron Hubbard  Bar Bet
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf AG
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 12:56:40 GMT

hello,

I heard, that Scientology is the result of a bar bet between Arthur C Clarke
and L Ron Hubbard about who could create the weirdest religion. Clarke took it
literally and wrote a book, L Ron Hubbard created a real religion.

a)	Is this true?

b)	Is there any suppporting evindence (Comment by one or both
	of them)

c)	Which A C Clarke book

aTdHvAaNnKcSe

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From: Laurie Mann
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Smilie article in the Wall Street Journal today (9/15/92)
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:38:14 GMT
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

A writer for the Wall Street Journal "discovered" smilies and wrote
about it as a front page article.  An amusing and general
accurate article.  People like Harlan Ellison and Roger Ebert
are quoted in it.

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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED- Planet Names from SF
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:43:39 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Sep14.212305.7105@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, dave@cs (Dave Schaumann) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.164802.17162@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, puckett@lambda (Jim Puckett) writes:
>>NIVEN
>>Jinx
>>Home
>>WeMadeIt
>>Plateau (Mt Lookitthat?)
>>Wunderland
>>Canyon
>>Kzin
>>Persephone (the Other tenth planet)
>>Pak
>
>Down
>Cue Ball
>
>Did he ever give a name to the planet in "There is a tide"?

I'm at home now to check, and the answer to this is "no" -- at least,
he never mentions one.  He does mention that Louis is returning to
"Margrave", though (this is also the world that "Safe at /any/ speed"
takes place on).

>Also check "The Soft Weapon" to see if the planet that story [...]

Whups -- that's Cue Ball.  Cannonball Express (from "Flatlander" was
what I was thinking of when I thought of Cue Ball...)

>There's also the story about the humans that kidnap a Kdatlyno(sp?)

The story is "Grendel", the planet is named Gummidgy.

I'm not about to scan _Ringworld Engineers_ or the _Man-Kzin War_ books
for planet names; the interested researcher can to that for him/herself.  
I believe that some Slaver planet names were also mentioned in _World
of Ptavvs_; that'd be another place to look.

-- 
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From: francis@dogwood.atl.ga.us (John Stracke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: WANTED- Planet Names from SF
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:44:40 GMT
	<1992Sep13.211541@IASTATE.EDU> <2AB40D3D.11857@ics.uci.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: National Science Center Foundation

In article <2AB40D3D.11857@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:

>Trantor (from Asimov's Foundation series)

More Foundation stuff:
  Kalgan (where the Mule was from)
  Tazenda (the world that they mistook for Star's End)
  Rossum (the world that ruled Tazenda [vice versa?])
  Anacreon (one of the Four Kingdoms--don't remember the others)

Early Empire/Spacers books:
  Sark (the world that ruled the kryt world whose name escapes me)
  Aurora (first Spacer world)
  Solaris (? youngest Spacer world, only 2nd-generation one)
  Baleyworld (early Settlers world)

>Thranx, AAnn, Moth, Alaspin, Repler, Midworld (Alan Dean Foster)

The Thranx homeworld was called Hivehome.  Do we ever get told the
name of the AAnn world?

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From: law015@aberdeen.ac.UK
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Cover Art
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:02:09 GMT


	About a decade ago one of the UK Law publishers put out a casebook
on International Law using that beautiful NASA photo of the earth. 
Unfortunately they rotated it 90 degrees and then reversed the slide!
	Incidentally I was in the Air and Space museum in Washington 10 days
ago.  They have the photo for sale: their display copy is inverted - or
perhaps, being the Smithsonian, they are right and tradition wrong.
	Finally, I did a book on Law and Space Telecommunication in 1989.
They told me they would use the idea of a satellite on the cover.  When the
book arrived, they had - the picture makes it seem that the satellite is
signalling directly away from the Earth!
			Frank Lyall
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Startrek VI - the video
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:28:07
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<futor-100992122156@chinacat.llnl.gov>
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In-reply-to: futor@llnl.gov's message of 10 Sep 92 19:17:13 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Sep 92 19:17:13 GMT, futor@llnl.gov (randy j futor) said:


futor> gt6346c@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Dalton) wrote:
> . . . other . . . scenes . . .
> 
> The president asked about what if this started a war and the
> officers response was something kinda silly like 'WE'LL KICK THERE
> AFTERBURNERS` or something equally stupid.

futor> It *was* stupid.  "We'll clean ( ahem ) their chronometers,
futor> sir."

But the all time dumb Trek line was from TOS. Episode Cat's Paw.

"We may not be able to break through it. But I'll bet you credits to
Navy beans we can put a dent it it."

What the hell does that mean!!!!

--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: futor@llnl.gov (randy j futor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Stranger in a Strange Land
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:23:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: CSo @ LLNL


 toten@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (Derek Toten) wrote:
> 	George Lucas . . . has only three directorial credits to his name:
> 
> 	"THX-1138", "American Graffiti", &	"Star Wars"
>  
> 	And that's it!

"Twice Upon A Time" wasn't a movie??!?

This is one of those topics I think I'm going to enjoy watching the
follow-ups to . . .   ;-)

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From: dbatoog@Ingres.COM (Nick Danger - 3rd Eye)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Has the new BLADERUNNER movie come out yet??
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:51:19 GMT
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U52025@uicvm.uic.edu () writes:
: 
: I watch Jay Leno this week and saw Roger Hauer(SP?) promoting the new BLADERUNN
: ER movie. I was wondering when it will come out and also how much different is
: this movie to that of the old one?

--

A director's cut of Bladerunner came out earlier this year.  Is this new
release of Bladerunner the same as the one that came out earlier this year?

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From: corwin@ensta.ensta.fr (Gilles Gravier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Stranger in a Strange Land
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:22:21 GMT
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In article <1992Sep7.171908.24520@cs.tulane.edu> toten@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (Derek Toten) writes:
(...)
>Heinlen would have gladly tackled the assignment, I'm not convinced he 
>could have pulled it off.  Anyone know if he wrote any screenplays,
>produced or otherwise?
>
>				Derek
> 
	Well, Heinlein DID write a screen play, which has been put to screen.
It is called Destination Moon. Unfortunately for me, I haven't been able to
find it on LaserDisk... But rest assured that it has been filmed. You should
read Grumbles From the Grave, compiled by Virginia Heinlein. You'll get some
more info on what Heilein has written.

	Gilles.

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From: sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: rec.arts.sf.alien ?
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:47:51 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

thogek@seismo.gps.caltech.edu  writes:
> 
> Would a rec.arts.sf.alien newsgroup it be worth the trouble?
> At least for awhile?
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> -- 
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How about "alt.fan.alien"?

Steve
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:51:42 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Deckard is a replicant?

In article <rabjab.95.0@golem.ucsd.edu>, rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
says:

>What evidence is there in the film and the book it's based on that Deckard
>is a replicant?  Interesting idea.
>
>Jeff Bytof

Oof.  I'll bet Jeff is gonna be sorry he asked that question as soon as the
rest of us movie geeks log on in the morning...
The rest of the net will be sorry too, if I'm not mistaken...this topic has
been beaten to death, hasn't it?
Sime
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From: wiml@milton.u.washington.edu (William Lewis)
Subject: Re: Natives Down the River (was re: ALIEN^3 Eggs on Sulaco)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:50:27 GMT

Ulricht == uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Steven  == gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven Green)

  Ulricht> Xenophobes are people afraid of aliens.

  Steven> GONG!!!! Wrong
  Steven> Xenophobia is a fear/dislike of foriegners. (like most Australians)


  Foreigners *are* aliens. At least, in common US parlance. 

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