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From: TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Castro Street (Re: Two threads: women posting and "cures" and its spinoffs)
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:05:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.181915.18811@spdcc.com>
dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
 
>In article <1992Dec13.084002.16670@netcom.com> cjlee@netcom.com (Caroline Jean Lee) writes:
>>Steve, I think you are misreading Tracey's post. Yes, her words
>>contained a lot of anger, anger at the way she feels lesbians are
>>marginalized on soc.motss as well as in other places. I'm a little
>>pissed off that you chose to respond to her perception of soc.motss
>>with a "fuck you."
>
>I responded with a "fuck you" because that's how I read her comments.
>And, I think _Tracey_ misread a good deal of what was said on the topic
>before she chimed in, AND I think she's got a nerve dismissing what
>other people DO like to talk about (raves, Harvey Fierstein, etc.)
>under the rubric of including women.  Like I said, some of that stuff
>might have little intrinsic interest to me, too.  But I read it and
>listen to it because it's coming from people I have come to know and
>respect as participants here.
 
To the extent that *I* ever had -- or displayed -- a "fuck you" attitude
about this issue, it didn't start until Melmon's "fuck you" to all the
women, er, excuse me, "des femmes fascistes," on soc.motss. All my posts
have been as measured as I know how to write them. And I am not dis-
missing any of those topics people are interested in writing about.
I'm just saying (I'll type *really slowly* so you can understand) that
not everyone enjoys the same things (I'm quite a Fierstein fan, BTW -- I
liked the commencement speech) and therefore perhaps not every thread
should be steered toward them.
 
>Listen, this wasn't the first time this topic has been discussed here,
>nor will it be the last.  It's a perennial discussion.  But I am going
>to respond in a manner commensurate with the way I perceive the person
>doing the posting makes her comments.  If you look at my history here,
>I have been one of the most vocal individuals towards creating an
>inclusive environment for women.  But that doesn't mean that if I think
>anyone (including a woman) says something both dumb AND insulting,
>that I won't dish it back.
>
Well, your history from what I've understood from some of the e-mail
I've been getting is that you're kinda misogynistic. I know that's
a real buzzword here, but if you're the champion of "an inclusive
environment for women" you claim to be, surely you could have seen
Melmon's post for the tripe it was and responded to *that* also.
Or maybe he's in *your* kill file as well. Pity my software won't support
that function.
 
 
Tracey
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Special Rights for Homosexuals
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:07:34 GMT


In article <mattm-101292162702@mcmelmon.apple.com>, mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

|> You should sleep with anyone who asks you, lest
|> you be guilty of transgression against their innate right not
|> to be offended.

The less hissy understand that a simple offer begets
a simple response; "No Thank You".  There is no need
to explain why, unless you live in Southern California
in the 70's.



-- 
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New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: tmohler+@cs.cmu.edu (Tim Mohler)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Work Made me A Vampire
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:19:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzIqwJ.54.1
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Dec19.042238.25428@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon) writes:
>In article <BzH9Fp.72u@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>
>>Don't forget, "Happy Solstice!".
>
>I *loathe* solstices.  The impending one marks my having to get UP in 
>the dark, and drive HOME in the dark.  The one in the other half of

Indeed. Several years ago I had the priviledge of doing "light industrial"
work, which consisted mainly of using an air-powered screwdriver to fasten
bottoms to computer keyboards. While not so bad for a few seconds, this
activity quickly became tiring, but was made much worse by the 12-hour
shifts - from 6 am to 6 pm.

Money-hunger drove me to do this 7 days a week for a month.

Since I did this in the winter, I never saw the sun. Not seeing the sun
for a few weeks makes things seem a little different. I couldn't
stand fluorescent lights for awhile, and tended to sleep as often as I
could. It also makes you act somewhat like a heavy smoker without
cigarettes; referred to as "nic-fitting" I believe.

It also gave me a strong appreciation of a worker's alienation from their
product...

Tim
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Subject: Re: Hi Honey, I'm home (GKTT85)
Organization: Dept. of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:40:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.220834.1@acad.drake.edu> jf0002@acad.drake.edu writes:
>Hi Everybody,
>
>I'm home, I'm alive.  There is a GOD after all.  This is Keith formerly
>from Mankato, MN, now DM, IA.  <--have fun  :)

Glad to hear you are alive & well.  I was beginning to wonder.

>Second note:  Where is everyone?  Brian of Toronto, The Cohens of New England,
>              The bears of Motss.4 in toronto?

Well, I'm still here and still clearing my own path through life.
The Cohens were looking quite good -tasty even- when I was last in their
area; I'm sure they'll have more to add.  The bears are more than capable
of speaking for themselves, so I'll leave their individual updates to them.

Welcome back & keep in touch!

>Keith Cheetham
>future:  unknown.

Just like the rest of us.  B{)

Brian
-- 

Brian A. Jarvis,          Rm. 4026, Sidney Smith Hall, Dept. of Psychology,
jarvis@psych.toronto.edu  University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
System Administrator      M5S 1A1  (416) 978-3948
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Devil CD's
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 20:14:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec11.202842.25715@athena.mit.edu> <1992Dec13.231430.26349@reed.edu>
  <1992Dec14.000732.1791@spdcc.com>

Steve Dyer writes:
>Anyway, Charlie, unless your tastes run to the entire collected works of
>"Tangerine Dream" and "Megadeth", I doubt you'd enjoy George's old record
>collection. :-)

Boy, Steve -- you *really* don't know much about my taste in
music.

I ignored Charlie's earlier dig -- though I wouldn't mind getting
rid of some of the vinyl I've replaced with CD copies [with the
exception of some cases where the sleeves themselves are
particularly noteworthy, like the newspaper built into the sleeve
of Jethro Tull's _Thick As A Brick_ -- or the case of Styx's
_Paradise Theatre_, where the vinyl itself is laser-hologram
etched].

THIS, however, needed to be addressed.

I am *NOT* into Megadeth. While heavy metal may sound all alike to
those not fond of any part of it, believe me -- there are major
differences. One of the things I like about Metallica is James
Hetfield's interesting, intelligent and INTELLIGIBLE lyrics; they
don't have a great deal of competition in this field, IMHO.

And Tangerine Dream has just never grabbed me, for whatever
reason.

 
() Military justice is to justice what military music is to
() music.
()      -- Groucho Marx
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: stevenso@Apple.COM (David Stevenson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Have yourself a fairy little X-Mas (Re: It's That Time of Year ...)
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:43:24 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) wistfully writes:
>
>I keep wondering what it was like to come out in the late seventies.
>
>Not that I'm not having fun now. It's just that from what I hear, 
>somewhere along the line some innocence and exuberance seems to have 
>been lost.
>
Speaking as someone who came out in the mid seventies, in San Francisco,
quite a bit of innocence and exuberance had already been lost by then.
In this light, you might find Larry Kramer's _Faggots_ educational as a
contemporaneous reflection on that era (in New York City). [Hint:  even
then, this book created a bit of a stir among the more politically correct
gays.]
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Indications of homosexuality (was Re: How to tell if your son is
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 08:42:10 EST

> chloupek@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> 
>  >When a friend found out that I was gay, he told a
>  >mutual friend that he always suspected that I was gay beacuase I showered a
>  >night.  
> 
Huh?  Say what?  What's the logic here?

I thought I showered at night because it was conventient.  Now I find out 
it's because I'm bi.  Sheesh.... a little self-knowledge is a dangerous 
thing! :-)

Namaste,
Elizabeth

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mills@spot.Colorado.EDU (MILLS MICHAEL J)
Subject: BOYCOTT COLORADO! Postcards
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:24:08 GMT

    Please support the boycott of all of Colorado by purchasing fabulous 
"Boycott Colorado!  The HATE State"  postcards, designed after our 
state license plates.  On the back the caption reads, "On November 3, 
1992, Colorado became the first state in the nation to add legalized 
discrimination against Gays, Lesbians, and Bisexuals to its constitution.
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Colorado Department of Tourism (800)433-2656"

   Send $1 per 5 cards plus $1.50 postage and handling to:

      Project VisAbility
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      80306
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Buy as many as you like and make sure all your friends get the word!
We need your help so this legislative backpedaling doesn't spread to
other states... like yours!
    -Mike Mills
     mills@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@vccsouth15.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Repeal of the Law of Return?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:49:41 GMT

mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:


>What's the story on the Israeli decision that the Law or Return
>doesn't apply to people who are HIV+?  Has anyone been following
>this?

What about it? It happened. I believe the relevant details are in 
/pub/QRD/qrd/world/israel on nifty.andrew.cmu.edu.

I believe that was what some of the protest on WORLD AIDS DAY at the U.N.
might have been about.

-- 
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"We believe the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which
cannot be infringed." --1992 Republican National Committee campaign platform
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Aladdin (was Re: Jason and the Argonauts)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:16:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec2.222931.23887@usl.edu> <1992Dec14.235201.5875@dvorak.amd.com>
  <1992Dec15.044810.1660@leland.Stanford.EDU>

Scot N Gibson writes:
>>As a side point... I hate to admit it, but I am absolutely in love
>>with Aladdin... can't decide if it is the singer or the voice-over
>>guy or even the animation guy...
>
>Oh honey, me too.  I've seen it twice, and I'm ready to go back.  For
>some reason, he's quite the cartoon hunk.

Well, he's OK for a kid.

As for cartoon *HUNKS*, my favorite is still Audric, from the
short-lived TV series _Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors_. Burly
build, bearded and ponytailed.... *WOOF*!  Unfortunately, since
he was Jayce's father and the person they were (perpetually) in
search of, we didn't see nearly as much of him as we SHOULD have.

 
() Good health is just the slowest way to die.
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Progress for Transsexuals in France (news item)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:28:59 -0500
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1b22

msp@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael S. Pettersen) writes:
> I was surprised to find this matter still under question. 
> Anybody know what US law says about it? 

In the U.S., I believe that it is a matter of state law.  In most states, 
issuance of a new birth certificate is done upon presentation of a signed 
statement from the surgeon who performed the sex reassignment surgery.  In 
California, routine ID such as the driver's license may be changed while a 
person is in the pre-surgical "real life test" phase.  National ID such as 
passorts are handled similarly, but I believe that the State Department has a 
history of allowing preop TS's to have their passports changed so as not to 
encourage harassment by foreign officials or others while travelling.



Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Ms. Manners Sex Club Etiquette
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:09:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.133231@wsl.dec.com> gnn@wsl.dec.com (George 
Neville-Neil) writes:
>
>A Gentle Reader Writes:
>Dear Ms. Manners,
>	More and more I find myself lying to the people I meet in sex clubs
>so as to avoid giving my name, and other identifying information to them.  Don't
>they realize that I only go there for anonymous sex?
>
>Gentle Reader,
>	There are two ways to avoid this syndrome.  First is to make sure that you
>wear clothes that are easy to get back into after the act of sexual congress so
>that you can run off as quickly as possible after you are done leaving your cohort
>talking to the empty air.  As this is not really proper you should probably simply
>say, "I'd have to kill you if I told you that."  Then they'll have something to
>remember you by, but not your name.

Horrors!  Miss Manners would never misuse the word "cohort" in such a
cavalier fashion.  And I'm sure that not even JoJo could personally satisfy
a whole cohort, and least not all at once. 

-

"Cohort n. 1. One of the 10 divisions of a Roman legion, consisting of 300
to 600 men."  (American Heritage Dictionary)

I take it back.  Maybe JoJo could, but most people couldn't.  

-- 

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Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: sys0002@dircon.co.uk (Julian Hayward)
Subject: Key West Accomodation and Attractions ??
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:09:21 GMT


I'll be visiting Key West in late February and I am looking 
for any suggestions on good places to stay and to visit.
 
I'd like to stay in a gay hotel/guesthouse, hopefully at no 
more than $100-$110 a night. A pool would be nice and a friendly 
atmosphere too. I've been told that Duval Street is a good place to stay.
 
Can anyone suggest any gay nightclubs, attractions etc. that 
I shouldn't miss.
 
Thanks very much in advance
 
Julian
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: "Civil Rights"?  or was that Special Rights?
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:13:58 GMT

In article <BzIDDD.40E@fc.hp.com>, jackies@fc.hp.com (Jackie Sheddy X6958) writes:
> 	Apparently,  CFV (we all know who THAT  means)

    Cretins Fornicating Vigorously?
    Can't Find Vulva?
    Claptrap For Volk?
    Criminals For Viciousness?
    Cranium Found Vactated?
-- 

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	"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."  
		-- Hobbes to Calvin
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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: source of the word 'faggot' (was: Hey Edgar!)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:07:04 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <Bz1Lox.809@access.digex.com> 
bruceg@access.digex.com (Bruce Garrett) writes:
>         I think I know what the words "Origin Unknown" mean when they appear 
> in a dictionary.  Granted the passage Mr. Sun gives us does not support the 
> "Gay Man = Fuel For The Fire" origin but the fact of the word's obscurity 
> seems to challenge the other user's cracksure contention that the case for 
> it is absolute nonsense.

I relied on the Oxford English Dictionary for my information.

>   If we don't Know the origins of the word then how 
> can we say we Know that one sense is Categorically Not derived from the 
> other.  At best, based on this kind of evidence, it still remains a matter 
> of conjecture and one I sure wouldn't be comfortable pronouncing absolute 
> nonsense.

To accept the "gay man = fuel for the fire" origin of the
word "faggot", you have to accept the following:

1) that the word "faggot", meaning "bundle of twigs", came to
   be used as a term of abuse for homosexual men way back in
   the days when homosexual men were regularly burned to death;

2) that homosexual men *were* in fact regularly/often/with some 
   frequency burned to death in England for being homosexual/
   committing homosexual acts;

3) that this slang usage of the word "faggot" has retained all 
   its contemptuous force and meaning for the last 500 or so years.

There's no evidence for #1, #2 is incorrect as to mode of
execution in England, and #3 is *highly* unlikely.

Arne
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc
From: buckmr@vccsouth19.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Dyke to head HHS
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:41:09 GMT

mconte@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Marc Vincent Conte) writes:

>>
>Shalala was outed by Miriam Ben-Shalom at the ACLU-About Face Conference
>in Minneapolis around November 8, 1990.  This was a one day conference
>on ROTC and gays that preceded the Creating Change Conference of that year.

Ok. What did Ben-Shalom say at the time to back-up her statement about Shalala's
 sexual orientation?

Dose anyone else have any info on Mrs. Shalala's sexual orientation?


-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Soc.Motss.*
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:22:15 GMT

In article <_8brg_m@lynx.unm.edu> miller@triton.unm.edu (R.C. Miller) writes:

>One thing that would help, I think, is to reduce the number of lines
>copied from previous postings.

Seconded.  Gad, it's a good thing Misha doesn't post here often.

-- 
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\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown)
Subject: Re: Pittsburg, Pa
Organization: Oak Road Systems, Cleveland Ohio USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:52:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.141742.29091@panix.com> mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
>Mara (*there* *is* *no* *cabal*) Chibnik [now, _there's_ a middle name]

There is no cabal--yeah, sure.  Then who sent me my Official Cabal
Application?
-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems                      brown@Ncoast.ORG
Cleveland, Ohio, USA

Eternal life: a threat, not a promise.
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: homosexuals/bisexuals
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 08:34:27 EST

dise@decoy.uoregon.edu (David Casti) writes:

> Hmmm...  It always seemed to me that homosexuals and heterosexuals were just 
> bisexuals who hadn't explored their full sexual potential.
> 


...Isn't this assuming that everyone has the *same* potentials?  It is 
possible, of course, but my observation is more that people are all 
different, and that some people don't have some potentials.

Nothing wrong with that, of course!

Namaste,
Elizabeth

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: czmt@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Season Marie Taylor)
Subject: Re: Indications of homosexuality (was Re: How to tell if your son is gay)
Organization: University of North Carolina
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:57:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.151731.26137@osf.org> coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
>In article <14DEC92.22441157@enh.nist.gov>, aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
>> I wouldn't let a hair dyer touch mine either.

>Wait a minute! Who said anything about *dyeing*? (I assume this has
>nothing to do with our good friend Steve.)

what's wrong with a hair dryer, anyway?

>Well, this is about how I treat my hair (which I no longer allow to
>get as long as Sim's, but is now approaching its limit), except that I
>condition it every time I shampoo (every other day), to keep it from
>achieving the texture of straw. Shower before breakfast; by the time
>I'm ready to leave the house, my hair is dry enough to brush. (If I
>brush it wet, it looks unrelievedly and incurably awful for the rest
>of the day.)

I shampoo and condition mine every day...it's so fine that it only takes
about half an hour to air dry, but if i don't use a hair dryer it does
that obnoxious Patty Duke flip...yuk!

season


"whispers are weapons weilded by soldiers untrained in consequences"
                                                 --Bridget Sullivan

-- 
                     ____
Season Taylor        \  / "we are one body/we are one spirit/one breath/one
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: I'm so hot and horny
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:14:39 GMT

In article <1980Dec8.195538.13098@cs.cornell.edu>,
csuley@cs.cornell.edu (Christopher Suley [or not, as the case may be]) writes:
>  
> [Please no one, be offended, or I'll cum in your month]

Oh? Do you only "cum" at specified times of year? Under selected
astrological signs, perhaps?
From: ltucker@next.com (Lee Tucker)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: My *sigh* ad in the Washington Blade
Keywords: seasonal madness
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:05:08 GMT
Reply-To: ltucker@next.com

In article <1992Dec10.021845.12952@syacus.acus.oz.au>  
brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies) writes:
> lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
> 
> >Let's make love  
> >underneath the flickering Christmas tree...
> 
> Under*NEATH*, Donald??! Just how high up *do* you trim those bottom  
branches??
> 
> --Brent

I'd say it sounds like a lot of fun.  Those little electric zaps from  
the lights shorting out in rhythm.  The melodic tinkle of shattering  
ornaments falling around you.  The sparkle of tinsel in your eyes.   As  
an extra added bonus, you can snack on popcorn or cranberries  
afterwards, if you've decorated your tree appropriately.

Appropriate Seasonal Greetings,
Lee

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