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From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico de Vries.)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Why go to 3.1 if 2.0 works
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:53:43 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

In <44908@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sexonbd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin David Sexson (Ben)) writes:

>He has a good question.  Which is better Windows 3.1 and DOS 5.0
>or OS/2 2.0.  OS/2 has many advantages from what I know, but Windows
>has the Apps behind it.  My question is when will someone make an OS
Which apps? OS/2 does run all existing apps.

>					Ben Sexson


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From: aspoon@ee.ualberta.ca (Alvin Poon)
Subject: MOD player for Windows 3.x?
Keywords: mod
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 07:44:43 GMT


Hi,

Does anybody know of a Amiga MOD sound file player for Windows 3.x?  There
is one I know that requires Visual Basic's DLL.  I'm hoping to find one that
doesn't require the VB*.DLL file.

Thanks in advance.

Alvin
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From: dworshak@pollux.tmc.edu (todd dworshak `92)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Win 3.1 + True Type = Very slow screen redraws
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:10:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.1325
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

Has anyone had any trouble getting true type and Win 3.1 to redraw
the screen at a decent pace?  I have a 286 with 3Megs, and the
on-screen font rendering with true type is excruciatingly slow.
Clicking on the readme file, which contains multiple TT fonts, 
is almost an exercise in futility.  It takes so long to render the
fonts that TT is basically not usable on my system.

Otherwise, I really don't have any speed problems with other aspects 
of Win 3.1.  I've checked all my config files, and can't find anything
wrong.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

- Todd Dworshak
  dworshak@bucknell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.os2.misc
From: stoen@katana.eng.hou.compaq.com (Rick Stoen)
Subject: Re: Tastes gross/more fattening (repost (last attempt only got ~1 site))
Keywords: (hex encoded ASCII) 3A 2D 29
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:44:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.022751.21871@leland.Stanford.EDU>, aaron@jessica.stanford.edu (Aaron Wallace) writes:

> Reality check: most Win apps which UAE under Windows will do something
> similar under OS/2 2.0.  The difference may be that OS/2 2.0 recovers more
> gracefully; this has to be tested in the field first.  The fact is that
> in most cases a UAE is saying that the application did something bad, typically
> loading an invalid segment register, read/writing past the end, or
> writing into a read-only place.  Changing the OS to OS/2 can't fix a bad
> app (i.e. one that doesn't quite get its far arithmetic right).
> 
> Admittedly, there are cases where conditions cause Windows itself to
> UAE, such as low memory or programs passing bad parameters to Windows.
> There are also a few bugs in the Windows kernel which cause UAEs.
> Undoubtedly, there are bugs in Win 3.1's kernel and OS/2 2.0s.
> 
> Even fixing all this, there's only so much any OS can do when an app
> contains code like that I've written above.

I think you are missing the point. In Windows when you get a UAE or
whatever they are calling it in 3.1, the only safe thing to do is shut
everything down and reboot your machine. Under OS/2 you just close the
application, or exit Win/OS2 and start it up again. There is a BIG
difference between restarting an application and rebooting your machine.

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From: TW.BX8@isumvs.iastate.edu (Steven M.)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Help with ftp downloading
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:37:31 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA


Help!
  I had  just found out about the ftp sites for Windows programs
and so I jumped right in. I couldn't connect to cica.cica.indiana.ed
u so I instead connected to wuarchive.wustl.edu and did some
binary transfers. But when I try to Unzip the .ZIP files, Pkzip
tells me to run PKzipfix. Then PKZipFix tells me that the .ZIP
files do not appear to be zipped files. I have PKUnzip v1.1
which is the version # suggested on the ftp site.
What did I do wrong?
Do I need a newer version of PKUnzip?
Is binary transfer incorrect( it wouldn't accept "tenex")?
please email to tw.bx8@isumvs.iastate.edu
                                 Thanks in advance,

                                 Steven M.
From: cc@castle.ed.ac.uk (C Carruthers)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Aldus Persuasion + Windows 3.1 = ?
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:38:49 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Someone reported on these pages that Aldus Persuasion would not
run under Windows 3.1.  Is this true?  Anybody know the nature
of the problem(s)?

Colin Carruthers
cc@ee.ed.ac.uk
+44 31 668 1550
From: henry.tan@cccbbs.UUCP (Henry Tan) 
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: WINDOWS 3.1 SYSTEM ERROR
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:05:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: henry.tan@cccbbs.UUCP (Henry Tan) 

From: cccbbs!henry.tan@uceng.uc.edu

Recently I installed Stacker 2.0. A few days later when I tried to run
Windows 3.0, it cannot run any programs on my floppies. Sometimes with
the File Manager, I can read the directory of floppy drive A (5.25 HD)
but not drive B (3.5 HD). I wanted to install my Word for Windows and
therefore need to install it from the floppy but everytime an error was
displayed "System Error, Cannot read drive A (or B)" and it hung up.
However, from DOS or from PCTools I was able to run any programs
residing on a floppy. COULD THIS BE DUE TO STACKER ? I had deleted my
Windows 3.0 and re-installed it but the same thing happened. I will be
getting Windows 3.1. When I get it, I'll install it and see if the
problem can be corrected. If not, do I need to reformat by entire hard
drive ? Any help and advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
From: victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (V Menayang)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Pause before you consider OS/2 (was Re: Win 3.1 not THAT great.)
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:19:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


In article <DEMILLO.92Apr10140113@egeus.juliet.ll.mit.edu> demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo ) writes:
>
>
>Moral: If you are buying OS/2 for OS/2...great. Do it..multithreading
>       is a good thing, and OS/2 has it. If you are buying OS/2 
>       'cuz you want to run mostly Windows applications in OS/2's
>       PM...you might want to rethink that.
>

I agree with this.  I've installed the Win31 upgrade and found it
to be much faster than either Win3 or Winos2.
I had a beta OS/2 on my machine (386-25,8MB RAM,120MB HD) and I would
probably give OS/2 another try when my free copy arrives.  But, 
I do think that to most people there's no reason for switching
to OS/2. Here are some of the reasons for NOT moving to OS/2.
These are based on my own experience running the beta release
of OS/2 and on what others had said on the comp.os.os2.misc group.

1. You have a 16MHz SX or slower-cpu machine
2. Your hard drive is 80MB or smaller
3. You have less than 6MB of RAM
4. You use one windows application intensively
   and are not willing to trade it with anything else.
5. You don't have any os/2 or PM application
6. You want a fast and snappy GUI environment

The above were written with typical Windows users in mind and some might
not apply to DOS users.  In general, I think IBM has accomplished its
goal to make a better DOS than DOS (so do DR, Quarterdeck, and the
windows3 division of MS :-).  But OS/2 is just not a better windows than
windows3 or windows31, YET. And remember, as one writer puts it, when
you use OS/2 you inherit the problems from all three operating
environment (Yes, you'll get the UAE's that we Win31 user no longer
see).


These are my opinions, no flame please :-)


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From: markv@hls.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 and Orchid Farenheit
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:48:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.222146.15487@ohsu.edu>, lemmanp@facman.ohsu.edu (Paul Lemman) writes:
> I've been using a Farenheit 1280 board with Windows 3.1 for a couple of days
> now with the drivers for 3.0 without incident.  I would be interested to know
> if there are drivers for 3.1.
> -- 
> 
> Paul Lemman                              Internet:  lemmanp@ohsu.edu
> System Administrator                        Phone:  (503) 494-8057
> Facilities Management                     US Mail:  PP220B

Orchid have placed their 3.1 drivers on their BBS at (510) 683 0327. These
work fine, but are strictly speaking still beta versions. The final version
should be available around the 16th (or so they tell me). Registered 
Fatenheit owners should also get updates mailed to them after this time.

They also said that the proper release will support the 32k color modes - I'm
curious what they have done with that!

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From: lygre@hsr.no (Eirik Lygre)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Why I'm sticking with Windows
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:17:08 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre

In article <1992Apr15.193548.3007@alw.nih.gov> donnel@helix.nih.gov (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
>Hey, I think I finally came up with a good reason to get my free OS/2 2.0
>upgrade.  (From the OS/2 1.3 version that came bundled with my PS/2 which I
>threw in the trash long ago.)  Perhaps when NT is released, Microsoft will
>give me a very big discount for trading in OS/2 2.0.  I think I'll get
>the free upgrade and stick it on my top shelf right next to my copies of IBM's
>Personal Editor, Professional Editor, Displaywrite, Filing Assistant and
>empty OS/2 1.3 binder where the first page will be avaliable for ripping
>out to send to Microsoft for my NT upgrade.  ;-)
>
>
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>Bethesda MD 20892

This is actually a good idea! 

Here at my company we have several copies of Windows on our top
shelves -- and we are right about to use them for something useful.
Upgrading. So I say "Go ahead!"

I guess you will be one of the os/2 customers who do not use it, just
like we are several of the Windows customers who do not use that.

Good luck!

Eirik Lygre
lygre@hsr.no
From: root@tamuts.tamu.edu (Wally Strzelec)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: MainLand v3.3
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:16:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station


Does anyone know if MainLan v3.3 for windows will work with MS Windows
3.1?


	Wally Strzelec
	Texas A&M University
	Unix System Administrator
	packman@tamuts.tamu.edu
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Resource Kit - is this useful?
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:32:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr15.163258.21606
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Apr14.175539.17393@news.iastate.edu> arakins@iastate.edu (Andrew R Akins) writes:
>In article <1356@hydra.bucknell.edu> skelly@bucknell.edu (sean kelly `94) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr13.181441.6133@sequent.com>, rbk@sequent.com (Bob Beck) writes:
>>> "Windows 3.1
>>> Resource Kit" for $19.95 plus shipping/etc.  Does anyone have this and/or can
>>> comment on it - is this useful?  What's in it?  Is it worth $19.95 +
>>> shipping?
>>I don't know if I'm right, but I was ont the MS BBS yesterday and I saw the Win3.1 Resource Kit as an available download.  Maybe MS figures the huge amount of time it would take to download (2 megs or something like that) wouldn't make it worth it.  Or ma
>>ybe they just presume that not many people will be calling their BBS.  Any feedback?
>>
>>-Sean
>
> It is the WRK, and you can download it - I did. The catch is that all of the
>documentation is on-line, and it's big: .8 megs of zipped text.

OK.. so where can one download this? Does cica have a copy, or
does wuarchive?







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From: galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Can Windows play *.MID files on my Sound Blaster alone?
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:32:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpgrla.1300095
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO

In comp.windows.ms, heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt) writes:

>Hi,
>	I have Win 3.1 and a Sound Blaster ver 1.5 (test-sbc says my
>DAC is ver 2.01) 

>	I had no trouble setting up the control panel so that .WAV files
>play out the Sound Blaster, but I haven't been able to configure the MIDI
>panel so that .MID files will play.

Was this with the CANYON.MID sample file?  Canyon plays fine for me but some
other midi files I have won't play.  I have another player (for VB) that has no
trouble at all with any of them (including canyon!)... Hmmm?  My only guess is
that it might be some settings in midi-mapper (as my VB player is not dependent
on MMWin ext) but haven't taken time to figure it out...
- Galen -
galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com
From: ergo@netcom.com (Isaac Rabinovitch)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: MS W4W 2.0 and WIN 3.1 -- Install the TrueType Fonts!
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:45:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.dfrj07c.ergo
Organization: UESPA

In <1992Apr8.174309.18908@m.cs.uiuc.edu> kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:



>The TT fonts are on the W4W's disks (I was looking on the Win 3.1 disks).
>They are on disk #3, in subdirectory "equation".
>There names are "fences.tt$" and "mtextra.tt$".
>The decompression program is on W4W disk #1, and is "decomp.exe"

That's funny, I just now gave up looking for them.  Turns out the
reason I missed them is that they're buried amongst a bunch of ATM
fonts!
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From: Al_K_Shing@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: COM and 386 Enhanced
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:50:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I am having a hard time configuring my COM ports for 386 Enhanced
>mode.  I know I have to add some lines to my system.ini, but I'm not
>sure what.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>-Craig Brooker
>
I had to add COMxProtocol=XOFF to my SYSTEM.INI before my comm program
would work without getting a system integrity error.

Al Shing
<al_k_shing@cup.portal.com>
Xref: sparky comp.windows.ms:11828 comp.sys.mac.misc:8801
From: demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo )
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PC is cheaper than MAC (Yeah, right.)
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:15:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: egeus.DEMILLO.92Apr7171553
	<CKD.92Mar27010449@loiosh.eff.org>
	<1992Apr7.155731.20408@news.iastate.edu>
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab - Group 43

In article <1992Apr7.155731.20408@news.iastate.edu> arakins@iastate.edu (Andrew R Akins) writes:
>   What pisses me off is the programs that do self checking
> so that if you change a resourse, the program doesn't run.
> I don't see whay that is neccessary. I enjoy changing
> all of the menu entries to stupid things, like Kill for
> delete or Create for new.

>   Oh well...

> -- Andy Akins
>    Iowa State University
>    arakins@iastate.edu

This question would be answered had you read comp.windows.ms.programmer.
A discussion is taking place there on ways to disable nagware
dialog boxes, disable copy protection, and remove serial numbers
from About boxes. It's pretty easy to understand why a programmer
would check to make sure his/her dialogs hadn't been tampered with...



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From: linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Why go to 3.1 if 2.0 works
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:54:41 GMT
Organization: NCSU CATT Prog

In article <1992Apr13.171421.17859@alw.nih.gov> donnel@helix.nih.gov (Donald A. Lehn) writes:
>But what about the fact that Microsoft and Borland have sold more Window's
>development packages (SDK, C++ for Windows, Visual Basic, Turbo Pascal for
>Windows, QuickC for Windows etc...) than there are copies of OS/2 (all
>versions) in use.

But what about the fact that all of these packages still only produce 16-bit 
code that runs in an unprotected, non-preemptive environment?

John W. Linville




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From: vapspgd@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Hefter)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 and Cache Programs
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:10:01 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr9.200231.23442@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> jdr8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Jay D Rosenbaum) writes:
>Is it necessary to use the new Smartdrive with Win 3.1, or will other, and
>perhaps old versions, of other Cache programs work?                        
>-Jay
>jdr8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

   While we're asking, what about hyderdisk?
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: Re: Sorry I Started This (was Re: Why I hate...(was Re: Pause before...))
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:56:50 GMT


In a previous article, demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu (Robert DeMillo) says:

>Add to this the fact that there are 65 million DOS installations out
>there, and the number of Windows installations is approaching the
>15 million mark - some analysts say 20 million by year's end. That's
>a lot of momentum to catch up with, even for IBM. 

Robert has made one of the old arguments for windows concerning the size
of its installed base.  This is not really a good measure.  There have been 
about 9 million sales of win3 and about 1.75 million sales of win3.1.
But sales are equivalent to users.  Anyone who says that 20% of all copies of
windows 3.0 are being actively used is being optimistic.  20% would make
for about 2.25 million active windows sites.  I'm not including the win 3.1
sales because I'd venture to say that the majority of win 3.1 sales to date 
are upgrades from win 3.0 sites.  After ~2 million win 3.1 sales are made, 
then I'd say that new copies of windows are being sold.

On the other hand, almost all OS/2 2.0 sales will end up in active use.
Unlike windows, it does not yet come bundled with systems, so the people
ordering are taking an active interest.  I have heard that the number
of os/2 2.0 orders is already at 2 million.  We may find that the 10+ million
installed base of windows users is a paper tiger.

--disclaimer--  This is hardly a set of definitive figures.
Most of my numbers come from reading various PC mags and Usenet and are
questionable.  If anyone can provide some more verifiable numbers, 
please do.

Douglas Bell

p.s.  Where I work, we have about 120 pc's.  We own 40 copies of windows.  
We have 1 copy of OS/2.  We have 2 windows users.  We have 1 OS/2 user.  
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From: axa12@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashok Aiyar)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Win 3.1 ATI Graphics Ultra drivers uploaded to WUARCHIVE
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:54:24 GMT
Reply-To: axa12@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashok Aiyar)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)



I have just uploaded Windows 3.1 drivers for the ATI Graphics
ULTRA/VANTAGE to wuarchive.wustl.edu, to the directory
/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS.

The file name is win31acc.zip and file size is 242,849 bytes.

These drivers were downloaded from the ATI BBS.

ATI's installation instructions are within the archive as
a README file.

However, those instructions did not work for me.  You may
have better luck, but if the installation procedure gets stuck,
here's what I did to install the drivers.

a) Unzip the archive (win31acc.zip)
b) Expand the drivers in the archive using EXPAND.EXE, which
	you should have received with Win 3.1 (or DOS 5.0)
c) Copy the OEMSETUP.INF file to your \WINDOWS\SYSTEM sub-directory
d) RENAME OEMSETUP.INF to OEM0.INF
e) Add the following line to your SYSTEM.INI file under the 
	[boot.description] section
	displayinf=OEM0.INF
f) Now copy the rest of the files to the \WINDOWS\SYSTEM sub-directory
g) Try changing the drivers.  I could install all the Ultra drivers
	that were included.

Regards,

Ashok
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