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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Maybe we should talk in a language that afghan people understand.
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:54:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: class1.sehari.721619691
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu

In <1992Nov12.233759.509@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:

>sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>>Ja-sos-ha-eh Kharji shologh mei-konand dar in newsgroup. Agar rast mei-goyeid,
>>va shoma afghani hastid be zabani sohbat Konid ke mardom afghanistan
>>sohbat mei-Konand.  Vagar na, Khafeh beshavid va bogozarid mardom afghanistan
>>dar solh zendegi konand.

>Just curious, were you standing in front of a mirror when you wrote
>these?    :-)

>>                             Babak   Sehari.

>    --mack

My concern about parts of Iran, which has been divided by force, is keen.
Off course,  knowing you for at least three years in the net, there is no
doubt that you would do anything to harm our country, Iran, just as mater
of routine.  Your past articles clearly shows, your intentions.  Well people
know it.  Oh, by the way, you never told us about your religion. -:)

                         Babak Sehari.
--
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Joojeh
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:11:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbeh.1992Nov9.221137.2067
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

you know i've been seeing this exchange between ali joojah and javad baghal.
and i have some questions. it was iraq who invaded iran, right? so mr. javad,
what is wrong with iran in trying to defend itself? do you know what would have
happened if saddam hussein would have one the war? many arabs already have in
the back of their mind, "al-farso magoosi". so with "al-farso magoosi" in the
back and saddam hussein to lead the way, i don't think that it would have been
a pretty picture. iran had to fight. there was no other choice, and as long
as iraq contiued to push the question of surrender would have been suicidal.
don't you agree?
and as to mr. ali baba, what do you think about the strategy of the war? i am
beginning to feel more and more that the iranian fight against saddam was a
jihad (on the part of the actual soldiers, not the leaders). but back to the
question of strategy, taking kids to the front line is no good, especially when
they are not trained. let's say that they wanted to fight, and i am assuming
that they wanted to fight, do you not think that the proper training would have
been called for? to use kids as mine sweepers is barbaric, very barbaric. so
you guys are talking on two different wave lengths. talk about the war in both
perspectives. 
iran had to fight, but the way it faought was not islamic, of course saddam can
not be excused for his destruction but then nothing else copuld be expected out
of such a person.
am i not right?

--== not the fingernail man ==--

zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: IRAN, home of the first wine and beer brewery!
Date: 6 Nov 1992 07:17:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

yes, its true!  and not because 'god said so'... 

Condensed from Mercury News, Nov 5, Section 5A:

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Earliest brewery tapped - Residue in a crock is 5,000 years old.

They must have had some bibulous days and nights more than 5,000
days and nights ago at the Sumerican trading post of Godin Tepe,
in the ZAgros Mountains of what is now wetern Iran.  Archaeologists 
can tell by sampling the dregs.

In the same room of the ruins where archaeologists last year
reported finding the earliest chemical evidence for wine, they
have now identified the earliest checmical evidence for beer.

....

Asked the meaning of finding both the earliest known wine and
beer in the same room McGovern replied: "I think a lot of serious 
drinking was going on there".
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didnt know we were such party animals... wine, beer, cheerful music...
then we traded it all for legalized beating of women, rowzeh, 
zanjeer zanee, hejab, seegheh... sigh.

speaking of wine, has anyone tried that famous australian wine
named "shirAz" ?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: 9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil)
Subject: Where is: MacFarsi or Farsi System for Macintosh ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:37:00 GMT

  Hello

  Where could I ftp the Farsi version of the Mac operating system from ? 

  I hear that it is available in Iran ( system 6 and 7 ).

  Thanks 

alex khalil  alex@dt.uh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sassan@locus.com (Sassan Behzadi)
Subject: Re: loonies on the loose
Organization: Locus Computing Corp, Los Angeles
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:25:24 GMT

(Behzad Sadeghi) writes:
>
>ahaaleeye mohtarame sci,
>
>reading the recent trend of our racist, fascist, islamic fanatics,
>nationalists ... postings, i started to wonder:
>
>what the hell is going on here? where did all these loonies come from?
>
>behzad
>

It's amazing isn't it? 
It only takes a few racist fanatics to screw up a whole group. 
Even calm and intelligent people get caught-up in the madness.
There's a lesson in this somewhere.

I also think that people who want to argue about religion should
do so in the appropriate newsgroups. Isn't there a soc.religion.islam?
A soc.religion.christain? A soc.culture.jewish or a soc.religion.bahai? 
Should all these issues be discussed in soc.culture.iranian?
Remember, just because you're an iranian it doesn't mean that 
your opinions on judaism, christianity or islam must be discussed
in s.c.i. Take them to the right groups.


Hoping for a little sanity in SCI,
--Sassan 


--------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Sassan Behzadi 
sassan@locus.com 
Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: kamrani@ifi.uio.no (Kamran Mobarekeh Iranpour)
Subject: Re: An ant a day keeps the doctor away.
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:05:56 GMT
Originator: kamrani@svartor.ifi.uio.no


>Ant Eating in China

Well, it does remind me of a poem in 3rd. RAHNAMAII in Iran, the story about
an eagle which could live max. 30 years and seeks the crow who he had heard
could live up to 300 years, and when he asked the crow of the secret of his long life,
he took him to swamp and showed him what makes him stay alive for such a long time,
eating rats, frogs, insects. Where the eagle who couldn't take more of the stink,
decides to die instead of eating the food crow offered him.
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: World Leaders - Clinton -3-: Hope For Open U.S. Trade Policy
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:01:04 GMT

11/04 (DJ) World Leaders - Clinton -3-: Hope For Open U.S. Trade Policy

    Rusian President Boris Yeltsin drafted a cable of congratulations to
Bill Clinton for winning the U.S. presidency and hopes for a
continuation of the ''partnership'' established between Russia and the
U.S., his spokesman said in Moscow.
    Vyacheslav Kostikov said he did not know the text of Yeltsin's
congratulatory cable to Clinton.
    But Kostikov said Yeltsin ''hopes for development and strengthening
of the good relations'' between Moscow and Washington.
    There was no immediate official reaction from China, which Clinton
has said should make ''significant progress'' on human rights, arms
proliferation and fair trade as a condition for most-favored-nation
trade status that Bush has always granted.
    Taiwan's Foreign Ministry spokesman Ouyang Jui-hsiung said his
government expected Clinton would not derail Bush's plan to sell F-16
jet fighters to Taiwan that has been bitterly opposed by China.  The
planes are built by General Dynamics Corp. (GD)
    There was some trepidation about the new administration.
    ''Governor Clinton may want to bring American troops back more
quickly.  For Europe, that's a frightening thing,'' said Peter Jay, who
was Britain's ambassador to Washington in 1977-79.
    In Baghdad, state-run Iraqi Radio reported the election results
without comment.  But people gathered at several places and shouted
''mabrook,'' the Iraqi word for congratulations, to everyone passing by.
     7:53 AM
                                 -END-
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: lking@athena.mit.edu (Loren King)
Subject: Re: RE:Culture and Women
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:23:41 GMT

In article <10NOV199209034964@rosie.uh.edu>, cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:
|>  Regarding this bitch Loren "I wish I was Iranian!" King,
|> 
|>   Get the hell off of soc.culture.iranian! You don't know what the fuck
|> you are talking about?            ^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Satan


Well, hardly merits a response does it?  However, I feel compelled
to point out one fact to, uh,... well, to Satan:

As hard as it is for some people (usually males) to imagine,
some other males (i.e. "this bitch Loren") actually read, 
understand, and argue in favour of, feminist viewpoints.

In this case I should add: some people actually read.


Loren King
MIT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: OPEC Countries Said Studying Ways To Halt Oil Price Slide
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:10:04 GMT

11/05 (DJ) OPEC Countries Said Studying Ways To Halt Oil Price Slide

    LONDON -DJ- Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC)
members have begun consultations among themselves to study ways to halt
the current slide in world oil prices, sources said.
    Sources at OPEC Oil Ministries, who declined to be further
identified, said the consultations have only just begun and that it
wasn't clear whether they would lead to any concrete result.
    They indicated that the talks began as a result of a letter from
Algeria to OPEC President and United Arab Emirates (UAE) Oil Minister
Yousef Omeir bin Yousef and other OPEC members.
    OPEC officials said that letter, which was also said to have been
sent to the OPEC Secretariat, included two recommendations.
    First, that the 13 member counties of the oil producers' group move
to reduce the perceived excess of crude oil on world markets. They said
that those countries currently perceived to be producing excess
quantities of crude should act to reduce that quantity.
    OPEC is now estimated to be producing about 25-25.3 million barrels
a day of crude, up from about 24.9 million in September and early
October. Since OPEC oil ministers last met in mid-September, Kuwait and
Iran have both claimed increased oil output and production capacity.
     1:33 PM
                                 -END-
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: AghA farhAd ham assabAni shod!
Keywords: Politics, Difference
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:47:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.005129.2055@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:

>What is it when these, SCUM bag khomaini dog supporters , lose argument
>they start insulting and threatening people!
>
>Mr King keep up the good work and ignore these low life brainless
>hypocrite fenatics.  They'll be punished by their own GOD eventually!
>
>Also Mr. king is in MIT, you are the one in his territory BUD,
>so why dont you pack your bags and get the hell out of here!
>IRI needs people like you Seyyed, go back  and help them 
>They want you!
>
>May God give you a PASGARDANI [(c) Seyyed] when you get to 
>the MehrAbAd airport!
>
>
>Farhad

I had never seen you so angry before AghA farhAd! You surely are very loyal to
your masters! Keep kissing their hands, but at least wake up from khAbe 
khargoushi! Remember Mr. nAsser arabhA? Now use your imagination, and whenever
you decide to go to Iran, khoub passe gardaneto charb kon, because nokhost-
vaziri guys might be waiting for you! dar zemn, ye dast pijAmeye rAh rAh, bA
ye Alameh ketAb hamrAt vardAr tA hosselat sar nareh!

Seyyed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: US Sub Deployed In Persian Gulf Before Iranian Submarine
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:04:20 GMT

11/04 (DJ) US Sub Deployed In Persian Gulf Before Iranian Submarine

    MANAMA, Bahrain -AP- The USS Topeka, the first submarine known to
enter the Persian Gulf, steamed toward the center of the strategic
waterway, days ahead of a sub that Iran has purchased from Russia.
    But the U.S. Naval Forces Central Command, with headquarters on the
USS LaSalle, tried to play down the significance of the deployment.
    Cmdr. Bruce Cole, the spokesman for the command, said the Topeka's
visit ''has been planned well in advance'' of reports that one of two
diesel submarines Iran bought from Russia was headed to the gulf.
    Despite Cole's comments, there was little doubt that the
nuclear-powered attack submarine was there as a signal of strength ahead
of the arrival of the Iranian submarine.
    10:30 AM
                                 -END-
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From: hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com (Kamran Hakim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: RE: Are Baha'is .....
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:12:21 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


"Ponder for a moment, and reflect upon that which hath been the cause of 
 ^^^^^^
such denials on the part of those who have searched with such earnestness 
and longing. Their attack hath been more fierce than tongue and pen can 
describe. Not one single Manifestation of Holiness [i.e. Messenger of God] 
hath appeared but He was afflicted by the denials, the repudiation, and 
vehement opposition of the people around Him. Thus it hath been revealed: 
`O the misery of men! No Messenger cometh unto them but they laugh Him to 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
scorn.' [Qur'an 36:30] Again He saith: `Each nation hath plotted darkly 
^^^^^^                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
against their Messenger to lay violent hold on Him, and disputed with vain 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
words to invalidate the truth.' [Qur'an 40:5]"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
			    Baha'u'llah, The Book of Certitude, pp. 4-5

Mohaghegh/Seyyed et all: My goal in participating in this discussion has 
been to conduct a dialogue in a respectful and friendly manner, hoping 
that some mutual understanding would result between us. Alas that I have 
failed in my repeated attempts to accomplish this. My sincerest apologies 
to the readership of sci who had to patiently put up with my long replies. 

However, the experience has not been without learning for me, and for this 
I will remain ever appreciative to Seyyed and Mohaghegh. I have finally come
to understand the INNER SIGNIFICANCE of the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 
7:6.

If either Mohaghegh or Seyyed ever decide to abandon their revolutionary 
spirited, and commando type verbal attacks and instead DISCUSS issues, I 
will be very happy to participate in exchanging views in an APPROPRIATE 
forum such as soc.religion.islam.

Warm regards,

Kamran Hakim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: vahid@math.toronto.edu (Friedrich Kourosh Vahid)
Subject: Persians versus Germans
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 03:40:26 GMT

I have been told that Persians originated from Europe. Is it part
of Germany that they originated from?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: payman@hardy.u.washington.edu (Payman Arabshahi)
Subject: yAd ...
Reply-To: payman@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:51:29 GMT


The following beautiful poem is by Nader Naderpoor,
as published in "dokhtar-e jAm", MorvAreed Pub.,
Tehran, 1971.  Enjoy!

-Payman

----------
yAd


tohee kon jAm rA ey sAghi-e mast
   ke emshab mayl-e jAm-e deegaram neest
marA az sooz-e sAz-o khande-e may
   che hAsel? zAnkeh shoori dar saram neest

khosh An shabhA, khosh An shabhA-ye masti
   ke bA oo dAshtam khosh dAstAnhA
sharAbam sho'le meezad dar del-e jAm
   dar An meesookht aks-e AsemAnhA

khosh An shabhA ke mast az deedan-e oo
   havA-ee dar delam beedAr meeshod
labash chon jAm-e sorkh az booseh-ee chand
   labAlab meeshod-o sorkhAb meeshod

cho az geesoo-ye oo mee-Amadam yAd
   soroodi tAzeh bar meekhAst az chang
be-dastam tArhA-ye moo-ye oo bood
   be-changam nAlehA-ye in del-e tang

negAh-e khandeh-Ameezash dar An cheshm
   be lotf-e nooshkhand-e sobh meemAnd
marA gAhi be showgh az dast mebord
   marA gAhi be nAz az kheesh meerAnd

soroodam bood-o shoor-e naghmeh-am bood
   ke cheshmAnash naveed-e zendegee dAsht
dar An shabhA-ye jarf-e por setAreh
   cho cheshm-e bakht-e man tAbandegi dAsht

konoon oo raft-o shoor-e naghmeh-am raft
   az An Atash be joz khAkestaram neest
tohi kon jAm rA ey sAghi-e mast
   ke deegar, mayl-e jAm-e deegaram neest!


		 Tehran, 19 Mehr 1333 [1954]

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Mohaghegh
Subject: RE: man so-all daram
Summary: None
Keywords: None
Organization: None
Date:  5 Nov 92 20:42:05 GMT

Mr. Baha writes:
> If one of your non-Muslim friends passes away, will you not to go his/her
> funeral ?
Of course I will go, BUT I WILL NOT RECITE QUR'AN FOR MY NON-MUSLIM FRIEND.
Mr. Baha writes:
> The next point is that no one will stop anyone from saying a prayer from
> Quran,Bible etc. during a Baha'i funeral ......
I am afraid you have missed the whole point. MUSLIMS WON'T RECITE QUR'AN FOR
DEAD NON-MUSLIM REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH THEY LOVE OR RESPECT THE DECEASED.
Mr. Baha first writes:
>  No crystal casket is required !
But then later on he writes:
>..................................; and that the coffin should be of
crystal, stone or hard fine wood. ......................................
No comments.
Mohaghegh


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Ms(mr)King real name(The jews)
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:51:03 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <13NOV199208143206@rosie.uh.edu> cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:
>
> Your are right! We Mulims must unite against the tyranny of the JEWS!

How can you call yourself a Muslim and then:

>Satan.

Wierd!  'Aoutho bilahi mina Shaytani rejeem!!!

asinA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Clinton - Foreign Policy -2: Issues Veiled Warning To Saddam
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:08:50 GMT

11/04 (DJ) Clinton - Foreign Policy -2: Issues Veiled Warning To Saddam

    WASHINGTON -DJ-President-elect Bill Clinton emphasized the need for
foreign policy continuity during the transition from Republican to
Democratic control of the White House.
    During a televised address from Little Rock, Ark., Clinton - who won
the general election yesterday - sought to reassure U.S. allies as well
as issue a veiled warning to Iraq's Saddam Hussein, who reportedly is
celebrating the defeat of President Bush.
    ''The greatest mistake any adversary could make would be to doubt
American resolve,'' Clinton said.
    Clinton, with Vice President-elect Al Gore at his side, pledged to
continue Middle East peace efforts and to work for solutions to the
fighting in former Yugoslavia and the starvation and conflict in
Somalia.
     4:11 PM
                                 -END-
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca (Navid Badie)
Subject: Re: Persians versus Germans
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 18:27:45 GMT

vahid@math.toronto.edu (Friedrich Kourosh Vahid) writes:

: I have been told that Persians originated from Europe. Is it part
: of Germany that they originated from?

Yes! If you draw three straight lines joining Stuttgart, Munich
and Nuremberg, the Iranians originated at the point where the
medians of the sides of that triangle meet. In fact, there is
a mark at that exact point on the soil which says "Iranians
originated here." Of course, it says it in German, not in English.

But the really interesting part of it from a scientific point of
view is that the Germans themselves originated from Iran. To be precise,
if you were to draw a triangle joining Jahrom, Dezful and Mourchehkhort,
...(you know the rest)... In fact, there is a mark at that exact point
on the soil which says "Nasl-e Almaanihaa az in noghte barkhaaste ast."

For an explanation of the implications of this event for the world
as we know it, please refer to my pulitzer-prize winning book
"Godel, Escher, Andy va Kooros: an eternal golden braid."


For the humor impaired, :-)

Navid.
=================================================================
nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca
voice (416) 207-6675 --- fax (416) 231-3748
To state the obvious:
Any opinions expressed in the above are mine, not my employer's.
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: S.C.I Readership Report for Oct 1992
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:55:16 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: cascade.cs.ubc.ca


The following data was extracted from the USENET readership report for Oct 
92 posted to news.lists by Brian Reid. For explanations of the figures,
please read the companion posting in that group.


        +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
        |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
        |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
        |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
        |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
        |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
        |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
        |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
        V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
 588  17000   524   67%   852  2152.9     7%  0.16   1.1%  soc.culture.iranian 

PS: the highest number of sci readers was around 27000 about 6 months ago! --df