From: wyle@bernina.ethz.ch (Mitchell Wyle)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: DOS telecomm prelim. evaluation results
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:41:50 GMT
Reply-To: <wyle@inf.ethz.ch>
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH

I have just spent a few evenings evaluating some of the dos
telecomm software in the simtel20 directories.

Procomm's vt100 emulation is bad so I threw it out.  The program
is also big and slow for what it offers.  It's too bad I learned to
code so well in it's script language.

Qmodem is another pig, packed with features I'll never use.  The
script language is unnatural and it is also very slow to start.

Same thing goes for Boyan, COM-AND, and GT PowerComm.

MS-Kermit has very very good emulation, as good as QVT.  The script
language is very difficult to code in, though.  It is harder to
shell out or do other work while up/downloading.  It does not have
zmodem.

Telix has the best script language.   It's almost like coding in C++!
The windows are not as pretty as the other big guns and the reason
I nuked it is that the vt100 emulation is so terrible.

It seems that many of the emulators make the same mistake:  When I move
the cursor backwords in vi over words, these programs all delete
characters over which the cursor passed.

I then looked at the lesser-known products, such as Odyssey , fidoterm,
lync, and robocomm.  I hit upon the Bytecomm program which comes with
sources (too bad I don't own a turbo-C compiler w/ tasm).  The Bytecomm
program is a hint at what I really want.  It is completely configurable
via an ascii parameters file, including telephone directory, macros
(minimal scripting), menus, etc.  It comes with clear, simple C source
so you can hack it up yourself.  The program is very small. It can run
TSR (!) and can up- or download in the background.  Wow!  Who needs
desqview or windows?

Unfortunately Bytecomm does not include zmodem.  It contains a few
features I don't want or need (and which therefore eat memory, screen
geography, etc. unnecessarily).  Worst of all, there is no terminal
emulator.  It just pumps bytes at the screen.  It can scroll back
but I'd prefer some kind of terminal emulation.

Can someone recommend a small TSR (background) emulator with vt
emulation, and zmodem transfer capabilities?  I'm willing to shell
out some bucks if it's a decent package.

Thanks,  -Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modem
Subject: DOS telecomm prelim. evaluation results
Distribution: world
Reply-To: <wyle@inf.ethz.ch>

I have just spent a few evenings evaluating some of the dos
telecomm software in the simtel20 directories.

Procomm's vt100 emulation is bad so I threw it out.  The program
is also big and slow for what it offers.  It's too bad I learned to
code so well in it's script language.
Qmodem is another pig, packed with features I'll never use.  The
script language is unnatural and it is also very slow to start.

Same thing goes for Boyan, COM-AND, and GT PowerComm.

MS-Kermit has very very good emulation, as good as QVT.  The script
language is very difficult to code in, though.  It is harder to
shell out or do other work while up/downloading.  It does not have
zmodem.

Telix has the best script language.   It's almost like coding in C++!
The windows are not as pretty as the other big guns and the reason
I nuked it is that the vt100 emulation is so terrible.

It seems that many of the emulators make the same mistake:  When I move
the cursor backwords in vi over words, these programs all delete
characters over which the cursor passed.

I then looked at the lesser-known products, such as Odyssey , fidoterm,
lync, and robocomm.  I hit upon the Bytecomm program which comes with
sources (too bad I don't own a turbo-C compiler w/ tasm).  The Bytecomm
program is a hint at what I really want.  It is completely configurable
via an ascii parameters file, including telephone directory, macros
(minimal scripting), menus, etc.  It comes with clear, simple C source
so you can hack it up yourself.  The program is very small. It can run
TSR (!) and can up- or download in the background.  Wow!  Who needs
desqview or windows?

Unfortunately Bytecomm does not include zmodem.  It contains a few
features I don't want or need (and which therefore eat memory, screen
geography, etc. unnecessarily).  Worst of all, there is no terminal
emulator.  It just pumps bytes at the screen.  It can scroll back
but I'd prefer some kind of terminal emulation.

Can someone recommend a small TSR (background) emulator with vt
emulation, and zmodem transfer capabilities?  I'm willing to shell
out some bucks if it's a decent package.

Thanks,  -Mitch