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From: bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield)
Subject: Re: recommended modems
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:47:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.020619.643@amex-trs.com> jcarton@amex-trs.com (Jeff D. Carton) writes:
   I am looking to configure a remote IP site using slip/ppp and need
   a recommended high speed modem. I'd like to run at at least 19.2
   and higher (38.4) if possible.

   Does anyone have any suggestions on what modem is best to use ?

Pick anything with a V.32bis carrier, V.42 error correction, and
V.42bis data compression.  Make sure its DTE runs as fast as your
computer's serial IO interfaces, which (for most UNIX systems anyway)
is 38400.  You're best off using RTS/CTS ("hardware") flow control if
your host supports it, and it's best if your modem handles things like
DTR drops and losses of carrier sensibly (hang up and drop CD,
respectively).

We have had good results with the Telebit T3000, T1600, and QBlazer.
Our customers report that they like the V.32 and V.32bis modems from
US Robotics, Intel, and Hayes, and the Practical Peripherals 9600SA.

The UDS V.3224 and V.3229 have data-specific problems when running
MNP5.  The Forval SA9600 and SA14400 work well enough, but are pretty
odd beasts to set up.  The Codex 3260 series works, but isn't as
flexible for dialup use.  Our customers report that the Digicom 9624E+
"doesn't really do RTS/CTS correctly."
From: SMITHBS@PURCCVM.BITNET (Barry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: 16450 -> 16550a
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:52:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Turns out I have a 16450 in my 486.  How much does a 16550a cost and how
hard is it to put in?  If I get an internal 14.4 v.32bis, I don't necessarily
have to upgrade the UART, correct?
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: CCITT v.32/v.32bis etc Test suite?
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:05:26 GMT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Apr3.060352.19771@unixg.ubc.ca>,
stat656@unixg.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison) writes: 

> With all these new v.32 etc. modems popping up all over the place,
> is there some kind of testing procedure to determine whether your
> modem is compliant with the standard? (You know, sort of like an ANSI C
> compatability test, only for modems).

Nope.  Manufacturers generally do extensive compatibility testing 
with other modems, using telephone line simulators first and then 
real lines as they get closer to shipment.  Since it is connectivity 
interworking that is really important, this seems to make a lot of 
sense.  There are some countries that do similar tests before 
approving modems for use, but aside from a few objective measurable 
criteria, most of these tests tend to be based on connectivity to 
certain reference modems.

> Or maybe being FCC certified is enough? (I tend to doubt this, I imagine
> the government agencies just want to make sure your modem isn't screwing
> up the system for everybody else).

Nope.  The FCC registration number doesn't mean a thing in terms of 
the modulation, error control, or other standards.  Modems must meet 
FCC Part 15 (for interference with radio and television, etc.) and 
Part 68 (for prevention of damage to the telephone system), but the 
FCC does no testing whatsoever on whether the modem _works_.

> (you'd hope that the CCITT as a international, government/industry beauracracy
> would send out the phone police on companies that didn't comply, yet 
> advertised compatibility! Is "v.32bis" a copyrighted or trademarked name,
> so bogus companies couldn't slap the markings v.32bis on any piece of crap?)

The CCITT specifically does NOT do compliance testing or 
certification of any kind.  Neither does any other standards 
organization.  Even though in some cases standards are defined for 
compliance testing (particularly with protocols, e.g. X.25 and 
X.400), third parties do the testing, not the standards-making 
bodies themselves.

There's no copyright or trademark on the names of CCITT standards, 
but if someone claims compliance to a standard and you think they 
really don't, you may have a cause of action in civil court.  In 
most cases, the cost to take legal action as an individual would be 
too high -- and I would guess that most manufacturers would refund 
your money to keep you quiet before it actually got to the point of 
filing a lawsuit.  But I don't think any standards organization 
would ever step in an try to force someone to stop making false 
claims.

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From: Jay.Ashworth@f160.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Loyalty Pays Again and PEP upgrade?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 15:50:00 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/160 - Hacker's Haven, Clearwater FL

In a msg of <Sunday April 12 1992>, Ryan Miller wrote to All:

 RM> The good news in regards to the length of time Telebit is taking on the
 RM> PEP upgrade, is that it will be a new FASTER PEP. I think it's called
 RM> Turbo PEP. If you're getting the upgrade for the T3000, expect this gem
 RM> when you get the upgrade. Just to give you a comparison, old PEP might
 RM> get about 1200cps on a compressed file on a long distance call. The new
 RM> TurboPEP gets about 2000-2100cps on a compressed file long distance. It
 RM> is still in testing stages, but I can't WAIT until it comes out. This
 RM> blows away v32bis. The connect rate is something like 25k or 28k instead
 RM> of 19.2k.

Um, nifty.  I _know_ Telebit's gotta have someone in here...  Can we have official word on this?

Cheers,
-- jra

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From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: V.32bis (lowest speed)
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:50:05 GMT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <790.1011.uupcb@satalink.com>, bert.tyler@satalink.com
(Bert Tyler) writes: 

>   >I am a mail and file hub. I limit V.32bis support to certain hours
>   >because the commodity modems tend to drop to 64 bps and stay
>   >there all too frequently. I'd rather have them download 500 K
>   >at 2400 bps than at 64. The only way to do this is to not
>   >support V.32bis during their "window".
> 
> Now, there are those of us who are attempting to convince him that
> V.32bis modems never retrain below 4800bps, but he isn't interested
> in our explanations because he has "experience" on his side.
> 
> Exactly what do we say to this fellow to convince him (and, perhaps
> more importantly, the other folks in the conference that he is attempting
> to steer away from V.32/V.32bis modems) that this just isn't possible?

Sounds to me like he's a religious zealot who believes his vision 
against all reason.  Oh, well.  The best I can suggest is to show 
him the standard, but I doubt he'll be convinced by that.

It's possible that he IS seeing very low throughput, but that it
isn't attributable to V.32bis at all.  Perhaps the modems are
automoding down to Bell 103 operation.  Perhaps the folks who have
this problem just have cruddy software that flows off a lot. 
Perhaps the modems they have have a bug in the error-control
firmware that causes them to lose data when the DTE flows them off,
or microprocessors (in the modem) that simply can't really handle
14,400bps modulation (there are modems out there like that, but I
can't say which), and they throw away frames and require so many
retransmissions that throughput suffers to this degree. There are a
LOT of other explanations besides V.32bis training to low speeds. 

Is there some particularly reason why some of you are concerned 
about this fellows practices?

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Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.  | Fax     +1-404-447-0178  CIS   70271,404
P.O. Box 105203                     | BBS     +1-404-446-6336  AT&T    !tnixon
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USA                                 | Internet                tnixon@hayes.com
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Loyalty Pays Again, PEP Upgrade, T3000 and WorldBlazer
Summary: It's all Turbo PEP, no exceptions.
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:38:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Apr15.132219.4277@ryptyde.cts.com> scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scott McClure) writes:
>gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Apr14.050820.21095@percy.rain.com> leop@percy.rain.com (Leo) writes:
>>>
>>>And those of us who bought our T3000's from the factory under LP
>>>before March 31 end up with a WorldBlazer when we get our free ROM
>>>upgrade, right?
>
>Not really.  You would only have regular PEP, not Turbo-PEP.
>

Not true.  The hardware is the same, and the firmware is the same.

>
>>Yes, the upgrade kit includes a new window for the faceplate with the
>>name "Telebit WorldBlazer" on it.
>
>Really?  When I called Telebit yesterday, they told me that the Worldblazer
>would have Turbo-PEP, and that the T-3000 (even with the upgrade) would NOT
>have Turbo-PEP.  
>
>I wish someone from the company would post the whole story.
>

Here you are:  I'm a modem support technician for Telebit.

The person you spoke with was *not* a tech support technician.  It was
probably one of the sales order entry folks, and they were simply mistaken.

The upgrade to a T3000 gets you a WorldBlazer in every way.  There are no
different forms of PEP for this hardware platform (the circuit board and
processor chips inside the modem).  There is only one:  Turbo PEP.

You will get Turbo PEP, no matter which way you do it:  Buy a T3000 and
get the upgrade, or buy a WorldBlazer.


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From: kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: EMail address for Supra??
Keywords: Supra
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:03:03 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen


Gday folks.
My wish is simple, if you have the EMail address for Supra, please mail it to me, and I`ll be a happy man ;-)

Kenneth Fribert
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wgb@succubus.tnt.com (William G. Bunton)
Subject: Re: Telebit Loyalty pays
Organization: Tools & Techniques, Inc.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:44:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.043422.5768@Happy-Man.com> Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com writes:
>We were loyal, and they are being loyal.  The disloyal folks now
>have to pay more.  That's the way it should be.

Bull.  What about those of us who didn't have the money?  I got a
bonus check on April 6, but that was too late for the (original, with
PEP upgrade) loyalty pays deal.  And for this I'm called disloyal?
-- 
William G. Bunton              | An engineer is a man who can do for five bob
wgb@succubus.tnt.com           | what any bloody fool can do for a quid.
Tools & Techniques, Austin, TX |                        -- origin unknown
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From: djwiebe@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Darren J. Wiebe)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Keywords: supra, v.32bis, v32bis, mac, macintosh
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:08:56 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <1992Apr6.172632.26295@unlv.edu> sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:

>In article <1992Apr3.230641.16672@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jsm2r@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (John S. Mitchell) writes:
>>Using the modem on a Mac IIsi, I set my software for hardware handshaking
>>and a communication rate of 57600 (computer to modem). Much to my chagrin,
>>the text that came through from all the bbs's I tried was marred by
>>numerous dropouts....
>>
>>Supra Tech solved my problem but only by dashing my hopes and dreams.
>>Their story was that the Mac serial port can connect to modems at no better
>>than 19200 baud.

>The Mac's serial ports are brain-dead.  They lack some of the
>handshaking lines needed for reliable high-speed operation.  I have a
>Supra v.32bis plugged into my 286 and have only a small number of
>overruns in ZMODEM downloads--nothing that the much-talked-about
>buffered UART couldn't fix.

I'm an extra proud owner of the ZyXEL 1496E, with my DTE rate set @ 57600, have
been plugging away with NO drop outs what so ever...

While Apple would be smarter to have a serial port that didn't turf the Carrier
Detect when you want to use the Hardware Handshaking, their port works fine withthe DTE rates you wish to run.

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From: chris@surfcty.UUCP (Chris Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Supra v.32bis DOES EXIST!
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 19:28:20 PDT
Organization: Surf City Software, Orange, Calfornia - DUDE!

OK!  After 10 weeks of semi-patient waiting, I finally received
my Supra v.32bis faxmodem.  Believe it or not, it has its own
serial number: 001615!  Not another 000001 like some of the other
folks have.

I will be testing thoroughly on DOS & MAC platforms and will post
a report somewhere down the line...

Funny thing.  From the ad slicks and everything, I was expecting
a real piece of iron, like my Intel 14.4ex (super reliable modem)
or a Hayes type box.  Nope, this is a compact little 4.5" x 6.5"
product with a teeny weenie little wall transformer.  Not one
of the heavy duty in-line power supplies like I am used to
with the Quicktel.

Chris


Chris D. Johnston       714/289-8543 (Voice) 8AM~7PM PST
Surf City Software      714/289-1002 (Fax)
Orange, CA  92669       AppleLink: SURF.CITY
chris@surfcty.UUCP      surfcty!chris@UUNET.UU.NET

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: klm@gozer.mv.com (Kevin L. McBride)
Subject: Re: Schedule for T-3000 PEP upgrade
Organization: GhostBuster Central - Southern NH Usenet Access, Nashua, NH
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 20:45:24 GMT

rfall@adobe.com (Richard Fall) writes:

> The scheduled ship date is April 15.  Shipments will take place in the
> order in which the T3000s were purchased [or the order in which the upgrade
> coupons were received--they weren't clear on this].

I just got off the phone with Telebit (trying to find out why I have
not yet received my LP T3000!)

The date has been pushed back to April 27.

-- 
Kevin
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.protocols.ppp
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: recommended modems
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:23:48 GMT

In article <466.212.uupcb@yob.sccsi.com> bill.garfield@yob.sccsi.com (Bill Garfield) writes:

>IMHO, a modem which is downline remotely configurable, such as the
>new MultiModem II line from MultiTech Systems, Inc. would be ideal
>for such an application.  Their newest, soon to begin shipping model
>MT1432BA is a full featured 14.4k bps modem offering serial port
>speeds up to and including 57.6 K bps.  This will of course operate
>sync or async over dial-up or leased circuits. ...

I just got a brochure on that modem, and while it doesn't say
so in EXACT terms, it seems to imply that the modem will do
uucp g spoofing.   Anyone have more info on that.

-- 
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                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
From: rlcarr@animato.uucp (Rich Carreiro)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZyXEL retrains
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:35:21 EST
Organization: The Other Side of Life

Does the ZyXEL U1496 series initiate and respond to both fall-forward
retrains and fall-back retrains?

Please email.  Thanks!
--
Rich Carreiro                                  Home: (401)841-8514
uunet!rayssd!animato!rlcarr                    JITTLOV FOREVER!
From: awong@CNS.CALTECH.EDU (A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Merging msgs!!!???
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:00:37 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Something is screwy about your mailer.  I keep getting incomplete digests
merged with unrelated mail msgs over here for the past few days!  Please
correct the situation at your end!
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From: bryan@marlin.NOSC.MIL (Dale Bryan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.fax,comp.dsp
Subject: Software scrambler for V.27ter
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:26:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: marlin.2012
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego

I amm trying to write software to generate a V.27ter scrambler
for a V.27 modem.  I am having some problems getting it to work
without some errors (due to sequence length guarding of which
I am unfamilar).  I would greatly appreciate any guidance to a 
reference of an algorithm someone could direct me to.  I tried
the CCITT Standards Handbook, but it is not detailed enough.

dale bryan
email:bryan@marlin.nosc.mil
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From: earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:11:07 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Apr11.000037.3382@eskimo.celestial.com> nanook@eskimo.celestial.com (Robert Dinse) writes:
>In article <CKD.92Apr8000821@loiosh.eff.org>, ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>> 
>>  Bill> == Bill Heiser <bill@unixland.natick.ma.us> 
>> 
>>  Bill> Isn't a so-called "handshaking cable" just a cable with all (25) lines
>>  Bill> attached?  Or am I missing something here.
>> 
>> Yeah, you're missing about 17 pins ;-)
>> 
>> The Mac serial ports are mini-DIN-8 connectors.  If you've seen the
>     Forgive me if this seems like a silly question.  But for hardware
>handshaking with carrier detect and data terminal ready you need:
>
>     RCV
>     XMT
>     RTS
>     CTS
>     GND
>     CD
>     DTR
>
>     That's SEVEN pins, why can't Mac's do both hardware handshaking and
>still have CD/DTR with an 8-pin connector?  IPX's use the 8-PIN and they
>can do it, our patch panel uses RJ-45's (8-pin modular), and they can do
>it, so why can't Macs?

Well...  here's how I got around the problem.  I'm assuming that the basic
thread here is to figure out how to get a 9600/v.42bis/v.32bis modem to
work properly with a mac (I'm late on this thread)?

All you really have to do (besides have all the right tools, connecters, and
cables) is jumper pins 20 and 4 or 8, I can't remember which.  I simply
jumped 20, 4, *and* 8, and left the handshake in (pin 2 on the mac side)
hanging.  Here I am typing away at 19200 baud, and just downloaded a hidious
amount of stuff to my mac.

If anyone sees any problems with this, please let me know.  I don't know where
to get such a cable, but I've done a lot of serial hacking and this seemed 
reasonably logical.

(I'm not sure if this would be for novices to wiring...)

Marcus.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: FAQ?  HW Handshaking?  What the....
From: mpye@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:13:34 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: mpye

Sorry if I'm a bit wet behind the ears...but I'd appreciate it if
someone could answer a couple questions:

What is a Hardware Handshaking cable?  I have a modem cable for my Mac.
How would one know whether it's a HW Handshaker?  There are eight pins
on the Mac side and 25 pins on the modem side.  I assume these have to 
be mapped in a certain way.  Is this correct?  But it also seem that 
with so few pins on the Mac side, there's just about only one way to
map it to the modem side and have it still work.  Are some of the pins
on the Mac side mapped to more than one pin on the modem side?  HELP!!!!

BTW, what is a FAQ?  I see this term all over here and still can't 
figure out what it means.

Thanks for any help!!!


---
Michael Pye
email: mpye@csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: st17t@menudo.uh.edu (David Bonds)
Subject: ZyXEL and HSLink? 
Keywords: zyxel, hslink 
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:15:23 GMT

Has anyone got Sam Smith's HSLink protocal (bidirectional high speed) to
work with a Zyxel modem?  I seem to have problems with timeouts on the
recieving (mine) end when doing a bidirectional transfer with v32bis.  I 
thought it was a problem with my card or cable, until another ZyXEL owner
reported the same symptoms - when using HSLink in no-ack, 4k block mode,
receiving end hangs until sending transfer is complete, and then resumes
normally.  When using 1k blocks, and windows=8 (ack every 8th block, I
believe), the bidirectional transfer works, if slowly (1200 each way).

Has anybody got a fully synch session with a Zyxel, especially with
HSLink?  Please send any info - good or bad..

TIA

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The Cutting Edge - (713)466-1525 - HST / v32bis
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: "tip" mystery for Telebit Modem
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:45:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


This is your modem rebelling against the clumsy anachronism that is tip.
Use kermit.
-- 


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From: ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Where & How much to buy the Supra V32bis?
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:13:49 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Super-Micro Group, Sony Corporation, Tokyo, Japan

In article <TUTUI.92Apr7100624@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp> tutui@silk.imel.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Takashi &) writes:

   Hi-. I want to know the price of the supra & the FAX number of the shop.


Ado:
	See "Byte" March '92, page 103.

Shop:
	see Byte, MacWorld/MacUser, PCWorld, etc and look for the mail
	order shops' ado.



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From: nanook@eskimo.celestial.com (Robert Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,misc.wanted
Subject: Best Price on Telebit 3000's
Keywords: Want Best TB-3000 Prices
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:52:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: eskimo.1992Apr16.005241.26276
Distribution: usa
Organization: <<< ESKIMO NORTH (206)-FOR-EVER >>>


     Looking for the best price I can find on TB-3000's.  If you know of any
place that sells them for under $600, I would like to hear from you!