HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jmk@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.m.knapp)
Subject: Re: The politics of Andrew
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:52:42 GMT

cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>>               ...at least Clinton can go down there and help build somethng
>> like he did in Atlanta for that project of Carter's.
>
>     It was funny watching the video-bite of Clinton "helping" to build
>the house.  Did anyone else notice that Clinton was hammering away, but
>hitting the head of the nail only about 50% of the time?  More importantly,
>does this indicate what kind of President he would be (he can't hit the
>nail on the head with the issues either...)?

With Barbara's cookies trailing Hillary's about 15 points in the polls, maybe
it's time for the men to stage a competition. The Great Pound-Off. Should
be more interesting than Dueling Tax Increases or Whose Uncle Did What and
When Did He Do It?

---
Joe Knapp   jmk@cbvox.att.com
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From: regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.abortion,alt.politics.bush,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tell that to My Woman
Date: 2 Sep 1992 16:05:21 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdde.sdd.hp.com

In article <1992Sep2.170308.21095@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> rogers@ial1.jsc.nasa.gov (mister rogers) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.130328.3186@wetware.com>, drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>> 3. Also would You PLEASE esplain to my problem older woman that
>> merely as she has not had 'sex' in a week is NO excuse for her
>> to Flaunt Herself at me in her Vain Efforts to Force an Orgasm on me.
>aah, if only we all had such problems.

You don't?

Heck, I thought we all did.....

Adrienne Regard

Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: shaver@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bryan Shaver)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: PEROT GETTING BACK IN ?
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:01:40 GMT
Reply-To: shaver@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bryan Shaver)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Annapolis, MD



Has anyone heard anything (from at least semi-reliable sources) lately
about whether Perot is going to jump back into the race?  He seems to
have dropped out of the news completely.



			     BDS



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Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: GA.JRG@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Subject: Re: PETITIONING WORK TO BE DONE - 39 LIBERTARIAN STATES
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:33:56 GMT

In article <GOLDM.92Aug28113023@sage4a.rpi.edu>,
goldm@rpi.edu (Mitchell E. Gold) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.173956.26832@esd.dl.nec.com> mlee@esd.dl.nec.com (Michael Lee) writes:
>   27 Aug 92  06:40:24
>           STATUS OF PETITIONING FOR MARROU/LORD TICKET
>
>   States where petitioning is going on or could be going on [5]:
>
>                 required   collected   est. to go   deadline
>                  (valid)      (raw)       (raw)
>    New York       15000       27000           0*     Aug 27
>--
>
>Was this not handed in? In an article on Clarinet (UPI) today, it was
>said that there were four minor party candidates on the ballot: Lenora
>Fulani of the New Alliance Party, the Socialist Worker's Party, the
>Natural Law party and Ross Perot.

Apparently there was some sort of screw up in Alaska the exact
nature of which we have not been able to determine because the key
person has been unreachable since the signatures were files.  After
assuring all party officials that he had more than twice the
required number to qualify, he filed fewer than the number that
would be required if they were all valid (which they never are).

Either this person was a total incompetent who masked it well or a
clever mole who was out to screw the Marrou campaign from the start.
We're trying to find out but in the meantime we're also trying to
salvage our 50 states + DC ballot status by redoing the entire drive
and filing a lawsuit claiming that the deadline for presidential
candidates should not be any earlier than the deadline for all other
candidates who have to petition to get on the ballot.  That date is
September 8th, but because there is another law requiring that
slates of Presidential Electors be submitted by September 1 we
expect to complete the drive and submit all paperwork again by that
date.

There is no question that we will get the necessary signatures this
time around as the effort has been placed in the hands of
experienced party regulars.  We remain optimistic about the law suit
as we have an experienced ballot access attorney working for us and
the Alaskan courts have extended other filing deadlines in the past
based on similar arguments.

/June
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From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Re: Stereotyping
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:00:58 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Sep1.140443.13361@tc.cornell.edu>, shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
> In article <12024@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# # But you identify with a group that does such. 
# 
# No, I don't.  I do, however, recognize their rights.  I
# recognize NAMBLA's rights.  I recognize them because if
# their constitutional rights can be abridged because of
# who they are, then mine can, too.  I recognize their
# rights because morons like you make it clear that those
# rights are in jeopardy.

What constitutional right of NAMBLA's is in jeopardy if the
homosexual community refuses to associate with them?

# # Then you wonder
# # why you get discriminated against. 
# 
# Indeed I do.  My life is moderate, even boring, by the most
# ordinary of standards.  I'm not going to repudiate the rest
# of the gay community because you, Cretin Clamor, happen to
# think that *my* rights should be constrained because *you*
# don't like what you see in San Francisco.

Fine.  You've made your bed -- identifying with the exhibitionists
in S.F. -- now you complain of having to sleep in it.

# # Either stop identifying with
# # them, or encourage them to behave like something other than
# # confused and spoiled kids.
# 
# Gee, Cretin, I must have missed your posting stating that
# as THE representative of the ENTIRE heterosexual community,
# you declare the folks who are posting nude images of little
# girls to alt.binaries.pictures.erotica to be outcasts and

Is that really going on?  If so, I would expect that a lot of
USENET sites had better take some action on that, before they
get shut down for distributing child pornography.  (I know
better than to appeal to the morality of the average USENETter).

Can anyone confirm that such pictures are being distributed?
I know that pictures of little boys were being distributed at
one time -- but then again, I guess that's no surprise.

# perverts.  I can only assume, then, that you yourself are
# a pederast.  It's your logic - live with it. 
# -- 
#        Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu


-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: George Bush buys votes
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:02:04 CDT


In article <1992Sep3.154025.27348@tamsun.tamu.edu>, enbal@aeroj.tamu.edu (James L. Heilman) writes:
> Yesterday, George "Santa Claus" Bush announced wheat
> export subsidies in South Dakota, relief for cotton
> farmers in west Texas, and the sale of F16 fighters
> to Taiwan in Fort Worth.  Things must be getting
> desperate for the man who promised to do anything
> to get re-elected if he's handing out goodies in 
> South Dakota, a state that hasn't voted for a 
> democratic presidential candidate since 1964, and
> selling planes to the enemies of his bosom buddies,
> the butchers of Tianeman Square.

Don't forget Bush's $~2 Billion jobs program, saying the Feds
(taxpayers) will pick up the bill for rebuilding Florida,
and support for continuing sugar import quotas (free trade?).

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
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From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Re: The Claytoon on the Couch (was Re: Stereotyping)
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:03:36 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <11901@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:

>#not being a full-time housewife goes against a woman's most
>#fundamental nature. [Marilyn Quayle]

>I happen to agree with Ms. Quayle on that.  So do most women I
>know, not all of whom have the luxury of raising their own kids.

You know, after seeing this, I can't believe you (and Ronzone) had
the nerve to accuse me of sexism in wishing June Genis well in her
struggle to get rid of the old-boy system in the Senate...

Brian.
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Xref: sparky talk.politics.misc:43247 ca.politics:7356
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Re: Run conservatives, run away! (Was: Re: Homophobics can't...)
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:07:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <5114@gold.gvg.tek.com>, mikea@zorba.gvg.tek.com (Michael P. Anderson) writes:
> In article <11991@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #What an utter lie.  You are a liberal.  You support laws to tell me how
# #to behave (antidiscrimination laws to protect homosexuals from the
# #consequences of their parades), that tell me that I may not defend
# #myself from criminal attack, that tell me that I MUST fund your
# #pet art projects.
# 
# I am a liberal who equates sex and race descrimination, supports the Second
# Ammendment, and believes in allowing tax payers the freedom to indicate
# where they want their tax dollars spent. Nothing more or less. 
# 
# Stop putting words in my mouth you jerk.

What?  The man who admitted that he was an elitist, and believed
that the government had an obligation to fund offensive art suddenly
believes that taxpayers have a right to decide where the money is
to be spent?  Battlefield conversion?

# #Who is starting the civil war?  It's liberals, with their constant
# #need to run my life, tell me who to associate with, what charities
# #to fund, and what ideas I am allowed to express.
# 
# No doubt some liberals support the idiotic notions you mention above. Not
# me. Stop generalizing and stop calling people names. You and Rush Limbaugh
# etc. have turned 'liberal' into a pejorative term. Why don't you and Rush
# just get married and leave the rest of us alone?

No, liberals have turned it into a perjorative term.

# #It's clear why liberals support laws to disarm the population --
# #they know that when push comes to shove, the only way to get the
# #population lined up for death camps is if they are disarmed.
# 
# It's clear that Clamer v. 2.1 has not stopped beating its wife.
# 
# 								MPA

The difference is that I have never hit my wife -- ever.  But
liberals have a long history of disarming the population, and
in this century, a long history of death camps, under both the
National Socialist and Marxist-Leninist variants of liberalism.


-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
Xref: sparky talk.politics.misc:42268 talk.politics.theory:3887 soc.culture.usa:6919 alt.conspiracy:10322
From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.theory,soc.culture.usa,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Kulturkampf
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:45:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: mydog in exile

andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
| >| In this USA, that dollar is extracted under threat of JAIL.  Even if
| >| we accept Fitch's strawman, the two are the SAME.  Jail is jail.

gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
| >No, it isn't.  You won't go to jail for owing the IRS one
| >dollar.

af:
| Really?  The IRS boys don't care as long as you pay something, even if
| it isn't everything they think they're owed?  The war-tax protestors
| will love to hear that.  That principle can be applied in general;
| everyone just send in 10% less because Fitch says that the IRS won't
| care.

Look, this is silly.  There is no comparison between having IRS
charge you $0.60 per year, or whatever it is, and having the
government break in your house and send you to jail for years,
except in the most tortured formalism.  As I said, if you
equate the two things, then you simply demonstrate a system
of values and we can just agree to disagree.
-- 
 )*(    Gordon Fitch    )*(    gcf@panix.com    )*(
( 1238 Blg. Grn. Sta.,  NY NY 10274 * 718.273.5556 )
From: mills@uga.edu (Kathi Mills)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Another good reason to vote for Bush
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:50:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Georgia Economics Department

> KKKaldis

>And all she needs to straighten her out is a good stiff ... never
>mind.

Remember, you heard it here first - straight from Tire Iron "Friends Don't
Stop Friends From Bashing Gays" Teddy.

-- 
"A woman voting for a Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders."

Ferrari (mills@rolf.stat.uga.edu)
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From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Re: Punishment vs Restitution   was Pro-abortion's view on life
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:40:03 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <11844@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:

>I've seen the claim made that 1/3 of the murders in Washington DC
>since 1986 are drug trade related, but I have no idea how the
>number was developed.

I think we could make drug related crime nosedive by doing three
things:

1. eliminate laws which illegalize drugs and punish possesion thereof

2. enhance drug education in schools

3. resocialize young men to believe that they have self-worth independent
of some socially-imposed tag of masculinity.

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Xref: sparky talk.politics.misc:42690 ca.politics:7211
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Bush Isn't The Major Problem With The AIDS Budget
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:48:59 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

The following summary appeared in sci.med.aids, and shows that
contrary to certain propaganda efforts on the subject, the obstacle
to more AIDS funding isn't President Bush, or even the Republican
Party, but the Democratic Party-controlled House of Representatives:

In article <1992Aug24.145318.23781@cs.ucla.edu>, bigoldberg@igc.apc.org (Billi Goldberg) writes:
# 
#                          AIDS Daily Summary
#                            August 24, 1992 
# "Research Funding Disaster: House Budget Below Bush Request" AIDS 
# Treatment News (08/07/92) No. 156, P. 5  (James, John S.)
#      The U.S. House of Representatives neglected to meet President  
# Bush's requested budget for medical research by $165 million.   The 
# House's action has prompted public fear that lifesaving  projects in 
# many fields could be postponed, if not cancelled  entirely.  A lobbying 
# attempt by researchers and others who can  travel to Washington is being 
# planned for September, with the  hope that the Senate can undo some of 
# the damage.  There are two  reasons for the budget problem: the first is 
# that the budget was  significantly constrained by overall funding 
# decisions that had  been made earlier, both by the White House and by 
# Congress.  The  second reason is that Congress has been uneasy over 
# appropriating billions of research dollars into the National Institutes 
# of  Health for years, for many diseases, with disappointing outcomes. 
# Proponents of AIDS research, prevention, and care are working  together 
# on a three-track attempt, with home-state visits to  senators in August, 
# and the Washington trip in September  scheduled for the 14th or 15th.  
# It is particularly important for scientists to explain to Congress what 
# they hope to accomplish,  and what will be lost as a result of 
# insufficient funding. 

Whether more funding makes sense or not, look carefully -- Bush
isn't the obstacle.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
prohibition won't work.
Xref: sparky talk.politics.misc:42747 ca.politics:7232
From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Re: The Myth of Lesbian Safety from AIDS
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:20:34 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <12011@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:

>A continuing claim is that lesbians are at very low risk for AIDS.
>The following summary suggests that the reporting schemes may be
>unintentionally misleading people on this subject:

If you had asked around, you would have found out that many lesbian
women have been disputing exactly that claim for some time now.

The medical establishment doesn't take them seriously.
Xref: sparky talk.politics.misc:42205 ca.politics:7100
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Re: GOP headquarters burned!
Summary: So what?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 05:20:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Patrick and Dale, and their two *&^%$#@! cats

In article <11937@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>This appeared in soc.motss:
>
>In article <1992Aug25.034038.23932@spdcc.com>, anon@spdcc.com (Forwarded Anonymous Posting) writes:
>> 	A Republican Party headquarters in South Pasadena, California,
>> was burned early Sunday morning.  Arson is obviously expected, since
>> a fuel lighter was seen on the site.  On the side of the GOP building
>> was grafittied: "GOP = " and the swastika sign.  Sounds like it was both
>> a good and bad deed for whoever did it.
>
>Does anyone else find something sort of disturbing about this?  The
>vandals in question equate the Republican Party to Naziism -- and
>engage in a very Nazi-like tactic -- burning out a political 
>headquarters.

So?  No one ever said vandals necessarily had any common sense.

>What next?  Are the gay activists going to organize something called
>the Lavender Shirts, and see how much blood they can spill by 
>attacking their political opponents with clubs?

No, but you'll act like they already have, anyway...so tell us something we
*don't* know for once, eh?

-- 
Patrick L. Humphrey  (patrick@is.rice.edu)  Rice Networking & Computing Systems
     +1 713 528-3626 at Rice. 776-1541 at home. 667-6554 at Palace Lanes. 
                                 Power corrupts.
                          Absolute power is kind of neat.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.usa
From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: Slick Willie and the Rapists
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:48:20 GMT

In article <farenebt.714789787@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell) writes:
>Xref: utkux1.utk.edu talk.politics.misc:52148 alt.activism:17474 misc.headlines:6858
>Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,misc.headlines,ba.politics,ca.politics,alt.elections
>Path: utkux1.utk.edu!utkcs2!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!uunet!clarkson!farenebt
>From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell)
>Subject: Re: Slick Willie and the Rapists
>Message-ID: <farenebt.714789787@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>
>Sender: news@news.clarkson.edu
>Nntp-Posting-Host: logic.camp.clarkson.edu
>Organization: Clarkson University
>References: <1992Aug25.232653.4960@oracle.us.oracle.com>
>Distribution: usa
>Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:43:07 GMT
>Lines: 19
>mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>
>>I just saw a little note in the Wall Stree Journal saying that Bush
>>was expected to slam Slick Willie by bringing up a bunch of rapists
>>whose life sentences he commuted.
>
>>So hey, folks, does anyone know what the deal is?
>
>Sure, it's another example of the kinder, gentler nation that 
>George "pro-LIFE" Bush has in mind.
>

     Between this and the constant predictions that George Bush will attack
Iraq again solely to boost his campaign, I have never seen anybody blasted
more often based on what people *predict* will do.

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|David Veal  PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu  University of Tennessee             |  
|                                     Division of Continuing Education    |
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster)
Subject: Texts of Republican convention speeches
Organization: pubs
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:37:59 CDT


Many thanks to James Barrett for entering the speeches from the
convention.  If anyone is interested, I've combined these into a single
file and made the following changes: simplified paragraphing; deleted
non-text material and interruptions; reformatted for 80-column width;
put in approximate chronological order of speeches.  All except the last
have the effect of decreasing the page count.

My newsreader doesn't work correctly, so don't just hit R if you want
this file.  Respond to:

Chris Brewster
cb@cray.com

(By the way, James, Where did these files originate?  Did you type
them?)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.rush-limbaugh