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From:         STGG8004@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE
Subject:      Re: GIS for Atari and/or Acorn Archimedes hardware?

Pip,

Many thanks for the most informative reply to my enquiry. It appears that
there is indeed life beyond the IBM PC and the Sun workstation! :-)
This just started off as a trawl for information that I could pass on to
others, but your comments are sufficiently tantalising that you now have
me thinking of trying to get my hands on an Archie myself to see what it is
like!

> There is an educational GIS project in the UK, I believe, caled Aegis, which i
   s
>  a vector based GIS tutor aimed at less advanced levels. If you find out a
>  contact I'd love to hear more. The database KEY PLUS has a simple spatial dat
   a
>  analysis package called Distribution. It's not sophisticated, but for high
>  school use it is very well targetted.

Is there anyone on the net who knows anything about Aegis? I, too, would be
interested to know more about it.

> You can do quite a lot with multimedia mapping on the Acorn platform too. If y
   ou
>  like I'll pass on some specs of some work done here.

Yes, I would indeed be interested - and I gather that other GIS-L readers would
be as well.

All the best,
Darius B.
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Subject:      Re: Ballarat Conference, or how to disseminate information. (fwd)

>
> Duane marble writes:
> >The problem is that those of us on the net tend to think everyone is
> >just like us! Large numbers of folk have no net access or are blocked
> >from ftp/telnet operations. Making things available over the net is
> >great but does not serve the residual 98+% of the population.

> >--
> I certainly agree with Duane that not everybody is on the net. but then, I
> see many that could get access and are deciding not to, because they do not
> see what it would do for them (or just sheer lazyness). There are people
> with a 'internet' access point in their room, ignoring it.
> so i would advocate that we go forward and use the net as much as we can -
> still making papers etc. available to others not on the net. but we should
> not hesitate to make good use of the net just in order to accomodate those
> who chose not to participate.

A few years ago I wrote an article for the Professional Geographer in which
I dealt with potential access by geographers to Bitnet. At that time
something like 83% of all geographers had access to that network.  All they
needed ere modems hooked to their computers.  The actual use of the network
was minimal compared to the what it could be.  At that time we did not have
access to the internet and to ftp/telnet.  We now do.  I suspect that you
are right that lots of us could take advantage of these networks and their
capabilities if we would only make the effort.

Regards,

Larry Lewis
Western Illinois University
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>From:	IN%"GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu"  "Geographic Information Systems
 Discussion List" 13-NOV-1992 07:36:48.27
>To:	IN%"GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu"  "Multiple recipients of list GIS-L"

>The site I am at has Arc/Info 6.1 and we have a Polariod CI-3000
>film recorder.  One of the users needs some slides to present at a
>conference in about two weeks or so.  The Polariod CI-3000 will
>handle TIFF, or CGM files.  Does anyone know of a way to get from
>an Arc/Info .gra file to one of these formats?  Thanks.

>=========================================================================
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> another.                    | osycs.giac1.oscs.montana.edu
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In Arcplot, the DISPLAY command options (4,5,6) specifically pertain
to CGM format,

or

depending on your platform, there may be the opportunity to save a
Display 9999 screen to a raster file (SCREENSAVE in ARCPLOT, saving
the workstations frame buffer to a file, or using the OPENWINDOWS
screen capture utility). The output can then be converted to a TIFF
format using CONVERTIMAGE (ARC6.1).
From: mcknight@geosun.acs.unc.edu (Sean McKnight)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: GPS utility in GIS
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:11:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: samba.1992Nov5.181143.26787
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Geography, UNC-CH
Originator: mcknight@melotta.geog.unc.edu

Could anyone recommend some references on the use/application
of GPS in GIS?  What we are looking for are articles that 
describe how GPS has enhanced GIS rather than articles that
explain how GPS actually works.

Thanks
Jennifer and Sean
Department of Geography
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
mcknight@geosun.geog.unc.edu
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From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Re: hybrid gis definition
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:27:29 GMT

The use of the term "hybrid" has generally referred to data structures.
A GIS which incorporated both vector and raster data structures and
which can move between them (such as ARC/INFO ver. 6.x) would be a
hybrid system. Donna Peuquet's "vasters" are an example of another
hybrid data structure.
-- 
Duane F. Marble			       E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.osu.edu
Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213
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From:         TRYFONA@GRPATVX1.BITNET
Subject:      Process modeling, again

I'm interesting in the theory of process modeling. Especcialy, in
modelling events like "forest fire".
Does anybody knows more about these, or is there  any book or magazine
involving with these;;

Thanks in advance

Nectaria Tryfona
Computer Technology Institute
University of Patras

e-mail: TRYFONA@GRAPTVX1.BITNET
From: RSIU42A@SAUPM00.BITNET (Trevor D. Rotzien)
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Date: 10 Nov 92 17:09:49 GMT
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Duane,

Could you send a definition and/or reference to D.Peuquet's "vasters",
which you just mentioned in your note re: Hybrid GIS's?

Very curious,

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From:         "(dj37)" <Donald_A_JARVINEN@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mapping fire Scars

Dr. John Yarie at the Univ. of Ak Fairbanks is conducting a study of
lightning occurances in fire-scarred areas.  You can contact him via umail
at jyarie@forest.lter.alaska.edu
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From:         David Wong <DWONG@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Map based emergency response system
              12 Nov 1992 21:07:16 GMT from <dmarble@MAGNUS.ACS. OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:07:16 GMT Duane F Marble said:
>The correctness of the databases is of prime importance. Want to use
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I totally agree.

>TIGER files? I would not want anyone assigning an emergency response
>on the basis of my local data!
>--

Then what other options, if any, would you suggest?
Spending $20k to ditigize the road network again. I cannot see how one
can guarantee that the quality of the output will be better than TIGER,
even if financial constraint is not an issue. Enhanced version(s) of
TIGER may be the alternatives. But they could be costly. And how about
their quality.

>Duane F. Marble			       E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.osu.edu
>Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
>The Ohio State University
>Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213

David Wong
U.Connecticut
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From: bthoen@teal.csn.org (Bill Thoen)
Subject: Re: Re- Dead Horse
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:36:47 GMT

In article <01GQSGYJCSHE00213S@muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> Ian Bishop <Ian_Bishop@MUWAYF.UNIMELB.EDU.AU> writes:
>please tell me more about GSMAP from USGS and how to access Bill
>Thoen's server (if that is truely where GSMAP can be found). She also

The site is csn.org, and you look in the COGS/mapping directory.  GSMAP is a
VERY good mapping program created by Gary Selner of the US Geological Survey.
If you are connected with a university, you might even be able to get a FREE
copy of the documentation (it's not in digital forma and you'll need it). To
get it write to Gary on university stationary, and if he has any more copies
left, he may be able to send you one.  Details of this "deal" and where a 
regular person can get the docs are mentioned in the README file.

The site is also a great place for geology programs in general.  As much of the
COGS files I could move over are there, and some others.  Also a file listing
various ftp sites, telnet, and other Internet resources is there in the COGS/
directory.  It's called 'internet.resources.earth.sci' (it's mentioned in
Krol's new book, "The Whole Internet").  sorry its a bit out of date (May 1992) was the last time thatversion was updated, but there's a new one in the 
works...  available someday soon, and will be announced here too.

Move quick though.. this site has been donated for free by Colorado SuperNet,
and since they are needing more disk space for their paying clients, I may 
not be able to carry this stuff here for much longer.  I may soon need a new
home for it, or some bright ideas on how I can get it funded through some
non-profit method.  It'll cost about $20-$40 dollars per month depending on 
how much I put in there.  I still haven't loaded it up because I ran out of 
disk space, but I have more geology/geography/GIS stuff available.  any ideas?
Also I don't work or speak for Colorado SuperNet.  I work for myself running a
GIS-oriented bulletin board and do some consulting, etc... CSN nad I just get
along great, but I don't want to wear out the welcome (or pay for it ALL 
myself! :-)


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From: wytten@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Dale Wyttenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: AML question (ARC/INFO)
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:04:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: umn-cs.wytten.721065866
Organization: University of Minnesota

How do you reference the space character in an AML script?  I tried
[unqote ' '] hoping it wouldn't give me a blank line the way [unquote
''] does, but it did.

Is there a way to refer to it by its ASCII code (32)?

Here is some context for the question.  The attached code fragment
pads a string with zeroes on the left.  I wanted to change it to pad
with spaces, but was unable to come up with a solution.

Thanks,

Dale Wyttenbach
(enc)
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&s numchar := [length %.t$dist%]
/*
/* pad left with 0s to length of 3, if user entry is under 3-char
/*
&select %numchar%
&when 1
  &s .t$dist := 00%.t$dist%
&when 2
  &s .t$dist := 0%.t$dist%
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From: gistrans@WORLD.STD.COM ((John N Brown))
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Subject: Re: Arc/Info .gra file output to TIFF
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I believe DISPLAY 1040 3 or 4 is CGM check manual under DISPLAY!

Srinivas
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From:         "(Karl A. Nyberg)" <karl@GREBYN.COM>
Subject:      GIS in elections

OK, the elections are over and we know who won.  Can anybody talk about use
of GIS in the elections, such as for strategy and such?  I was surprised to
not hear a PEEP out of this newsgroup when I saw the US Maps that the major
networks had, and how they would fill a state's color in according to which
candidate was projected to win that state's electoral votes.  Does anybody
know if those were incredibly special-purpose systems?

-- Karl --
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From:         Jay Morgan <E7G4MOR@TOWSONVX.BITNET>
Subject:      April, 1993 Issue of "GeoInfoSystems"

I just volunteered to serve as "consulting editor" for the April 1993
issue of "GeoInfoSystems."  The issue will focus on GIS education and
training.  Please contact me if you have an article  that  you  would
like to submit for inclusion in this issue.  Some topics that come to
mind include:

   o Professional certification/accreditation.

   o Equipping a GIS lab.

   o Opportunities for continuing GIS education.

   o Case studies describing how the NCGIA "core curriculum" is being
     implemented.

   o Role of the community colleges in software-specific training.

   o Teaching GIS in the high schools.

Jay Morgan
Department of Geography and Environmental Planning
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(410) 830-3482 (FAX)
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From: 841613t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Tyzuk)
Subject: Re: Map based emergency response system
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:01:02 GMT

Check out "SoftRisk" from 

Impact Research Group Ltd.
P.O. Box 34251, Station D
Vancouver, BC
CANADA     V6J 4N8

Voice:  (604) 736-0012
Fax:    (604) 736-8370

They have a demo disk.  Very interesting stuff.  My co-op term employer
(a municipal government) is interested.  
-- 
don.tyzuk@acadiau.ca	
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From:         "(Andy Bouffard)" <esri!england!andyb@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      ARC/INFO discussion list

Hello netters,

At one time I remember seeing on this list a mention of
an ARC/INFO discussion list available through the CHEST
system in the UK.  I know that, for us, email addresses in the
UK are reversed from what they are over the ocean.  Could someone
tell me how to subscribe to this ARC/INFO list on CHEST.

Thanks in advance.

____________________________________________________________________

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From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Re: What to do with superceded versions of software?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:31:21 GMT

Some organizations (e.g., WordPerfect Corp.) have an explicit program
that allows you to donate "official" copies of old software to public
service organizations. I know of no such programs in the GIS arena. In
fact, there appears to be a trend toward viewing software as only
licensed and not purchased. Thus if you do not pay the annual fee, all
previous $$$ (large in some cases) are down the drain. I do not approve
of the latter approach and I would like to encourage GIS software
providers to make explicit provision for the transfer (but not for $$)
of older but still functional software.

Yes, GRASS (and our own OSU MAP-for-the-PC) are basically public domain
packages and can be transferred. My remarks were directed toward the
commercial vendors. I also realize that they are in business to make
money, but passing on older software to $$ poor customers can be an
excellent marketing strategy.
-- 
Duane F. Marble			       E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.osu.edu
Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213
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Subject: SYSGRAF workstations?
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:24:18 GMT
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Greetings, A colleague of ours in Brazil has mentioned he can get access
to various data which was produced on SYSGRAF workstations, and wants to
know how this data is/isn't compatible with IDRISI/ERDAS formats. I could
help him on the compatibility issue if I knew more about SYSGRAF. Can
anyone enlighten us on this?
Peter Schlesinger
The Woods Hole Research Center
i43_ps02@red.whoi.edu
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From:         Neel Smith <nsmith@POLAR.BOWDOIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ballarat Conference, or how to disseminate information.

I am all for the idea of distributing conference proceedings
electronically.  (For that matter, why limit ourselves
to conference proceedings?)

Just one question for members of the list:  How many people
in academic jobs think they would have more difficulty
getting "credit" for an electronically distributed
"paper" than for a few pages in printed conference
proceedings?  The technology is largely there (even granting
the accuracy of Duane Marble's comments);  but is the
institutional infrastructure?

Neel Smith
(untenured and curious)
nsmith@polar.bowdoin.edu
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From:         "(Zhan)" <esri!falcon!zhan@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Histograms in Arcplot?

GRAPHBAR may be the one to make histograms.
It has been used in command HISTOGRAM in GRID of ARC/INFO 6.1.

Cixiang Zhan
czhan.esri.com
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From:         Mr Liang Rao <JCDR01@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: ARC/INFO discussion list

Dear GIS-L netters,

The CHEST (Combined Higher Education Software Team) in UK has
several discussion lists. The most alive ones are ARC-INFO,
PC-Graphics, XWindows and VISUAL.

To subscribe to these lists, you should send an e-mail to
MAILBASE@MAILBASE.ac.UK   (if you are outside UK). The message
should be (for example, ARC-INFO):

Sub CHEST-ARC-INFO   firstname lastname
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good luck! Liang Rao, University of Liverpool
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Subject:      Re: Ballarat Conference, or how to disseminate information.

Duane marble writes:
>The problem is that those of us on the net tend to think everyone is
>just like us! Large numbers of folk have no net access or are blocked
>from ftp/telnet operations. Making things available over the net is
>great but does not serve the residual 98+% of the population.
>--
I certainly agree with Duane that not everybody is on the net. but then, I
see many that could get access and are deciding not to, because they do not
see what it would do for them (or just sheer lazyness). There are people
with a 'internet' access point in their room, ignoring it.
so i would advocate that we go forward and use the net as much as we can -
still making papers etc. available to others not on the net. but we should
not hesitate to make good use of the net just in order to accomodate those
who chose not to participate.

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From:         LDOWNS@BSS2.UMD.EDU
Subject:      Re: GPS Base Stations

Eric -

You might try your state branch of National Ocean Survey (NOS) or
NOAH  to see if they have installed a GPS grid over your state or at
least in proximity of the Great Lakes. I am in Maryland and our state
branch of NOS has, which has been very helpful for me in my research.
When I called the NOS office, I gave them the area that I needed to
find a station in and they sent me an incredibly good discription of
the location and how to find it (unlike USGS benchmark directions).
With the directions came the lat/long to the 3rd decimal place and
elipsoidal and geodoidal elevations.

Hope this is helpful.

Lynda Downs
Laboratory for Coastal Research
University of Maryland
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