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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Virginia Slims Spoiler
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:00:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.040714.7489@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>
>>Monica Seles (1) defeated Martina Navratilova (4) 
>>Score: 7-5, 6-3, 6-1
>
>   I saw bits and pieces of this match (a big problem with remote control and
>flipping the channels).    Anyway, I saw the match from the second set on,
>and Seles began to crush Martina.   It's hard to believe that Seles can
>hit so many hard shots and not miss.    The only way Martina could win
>was not to miss herself, and she wasn't up to the task.
>
>    I'm beginning to think that men's tennis really has nothing compared
>to Seles (and possibly Graf).   Martina has one of the better women's serve
>but after a while it didn't even faze Seles.  She seemed able to pick
>up her serve better as the match went along.   Men's tennis, by contrast,
>really has no one (not even Agassi) who can just bang back returns no
>matter how big the serve.   Neither Courier nor Agassi have the kind of
>consistency that Monica has.   This match was unreal.  

Seles was probably at her best in the latter part of the match. Her
return of serve and some of the angles she can generate are amazing.
While Martina can still play some great tennis once in a while, in
general, she is a step or two slower in her volleys and her approach
shots are not as good as before. Last year she managed to get a set
from Seles but it got one-sided this year.

As I said before, this year's draw for the VS Championship is very
similar to last year's among the seeded players, and the results are
almost identical. Two years in a row Graf was upset by a serve-and-
volleyer who played a very good match against her. Other than that,
there were few surprised. With Graf gone, the draw really opened up
for Martina. Sanchez-Vicario is really no match for her on fast surfaces.
So it was almost a straight path to the final for Martina.

In the top half of the draw, Sabatini eliminated Capriati in the quarter
final two year in a row, although the match was much closer this year.
After that, Sabatini didn't have much left for the semi against Seles.
I am glad that Sabatini at least put up a fight in the first set this
year and took it to a tie break. Novotna gave Seles a scare but was
unable to hold on to her lead once again; must be frustrating for her.

Despite that the WTA has been trying to create an image that women's
tennis has a deep field and is unpredictable, the fact of the matter
is that one or two players still dominate the field. Sure there are
a few surprises, but the top one or two players eventually prevail
in all major tournaments. While Seles has reached the final again and
again, Graf has been upset a few times in the major tournaments. I hope
that those two will play each other more often next year. That will make
the finals more interesting to watch.
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From: stein_gs@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Glenn S Stein)
Subject: Re: One result from tonight 11/14
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:22:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.014624.2680@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.) writes:
>V.S. of Philadelphia
>
> Steffi Graf d. Jennifer Capriati 6-0,6-1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> Did anyone see this match? I think that was astonishing!! Is the Great
>Graf back?? Did she ruch the net and use her devastating topspin
>backhand??? Was her forehand unbelievable??? Please I'd appreciate this
>info. 

I was there to see it.  Capriati played the worst match I have ever seen.
She hit with no pace and played with no intensity.  I don't think Graf hit a
topspin backhand the entire tournament.  Capriati had 5 winners to 24 errors.
Graf had 14 and 12.  Graf only came to net three times. Her forehand was
unbelievable.  She won 50 of 71 points.
>
>6-0,6-1 I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!!!


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From: haas@wam.umd.edu (The Future Mr. Graf)
Subject: Re: Virginia Slim Championship quarter-final schedule
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:17:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.140416.22853@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung) writes:
>
>It is very nice for MSG to have Virginia Wade do the TV commentary
>for this tournament. She is informative and has the insight for the
>game. I simply don't understand why TV stations use Bud though.
>-- 

     I agree.  She has been wonderful.  I am, however getting a little
     tired of Bud Collins.  Bud, in moderation, is fine, but I got very
     tired of him screaming "DOUBLE BAGEL" during the Sabatini/Frazier
     match.  He's fine at Wimbledon, but he's a bit much here...

     Bud, forgive me...

     Jeffrey

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From: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari)
Subject: Telecast timings ??
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory
Distribution: rec
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:57:30


Does anyone have the ESPN timings of the ATP championship ? 

Thanks

- Hari


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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: Seles' records (Was Re: Tournament Update: Nov 22pm
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:49:34 GMT

In article <9211231809.AA23218@sumatra.dcs.gla.ac.uk> roberto@dcs.gla.ac.uk (roberto) writes:
>| Excellent year for Seles. 
>| She won 10 of 15 tournaments. (in fact she has reached the final of 30
>|                                of the last 31 tournaments)
>
>I thought she had lost 6 matches this year. Maybe one of them was an exibition.
>I think she lost once to S. Graf, G. Sabatini, A. Sanches-Vicario and 
>J. Capriati, and twice to M. Navratilova. 
>Anybody confirm this?

Seles lost only five times this year:
  1. to Capriati in Key Biscayne
  2. to Sabatini at the Italian Open (Rome)
  3. to Graf at Wimbledon
  4. to Martina in Los Angeles
  5. to Sanchez-Vicario in Montreal

Last year, Seles lost to Capriati at the Mahwah exhibition and then
in San Diego.

The interesting thing is that Seles is making a lot more in prize money
than Graf did back in 1988/1989 when Graf lost only two/three matches
a year and won the Grand Slam. Inflation, I guess. :-)
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From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP Championship, Frankfurt, Germany
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:37:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: knex.Xk7cuB1w165w
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

The season-ending $2.5 million A-T-P World Championships starts tomorrow
(Tuesday) in Frankfurt, Germany. 

The eight players are divided into two groups, the Rosewall and the Laver.
The top two finishers of each group advance to the semifinals.

The Rosewall group has Edberg, Korda, Sampras and Becker.
Stefan Edberg will play Petr Korda and Pete Sampras will take on
Boris Becker.

The Laver group has Chang, Ivanisevic, Krajicek and Courier.
Michael Chang will play Goran Ivanisevic and Jim Courier will take on
Richard Krajicek, who is in this championship thanks to the withdrawal
of Ivan Lendl and Andre Agassi due to injuries.

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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Re: 1992 Virginia Slims Championship Draw, updated
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:02:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.153628.9185@walter.bellcore.com> donna@attic.bae.bellcore.com (Donna Feliciano) writes:
>|> 
>|>                    1992 Virginia Slims Championship Draw
>
>I have a question:  Is this determined by rankings, earnings, or
>VS points?  Just curious why Mary Pierce isn't in there, since
>she is ranked in the top 16, and has been for a while.

Eligibility for the year-end Virginia Slims Championship is determined
by "Kraft Tour Points." The way I understand it, a player gets these
points by reaching a certainly round of each tournament. For example,
during yesterday's Philadelphia coverage, they showed that the winner
(in this case Steffi Graf) received 300 points, the runner up 210, etc.
The confusing thing is that these points are DIFFERENT from the ranking
points. Moreover, the Karft Tour Points is a simple sum in a calendar year.
Therefore, those players who play more tournaments can get more points.
That's why some players such as Anke Huber and Mary Pierce who are in
the top 16 as far as rankings are concerned don't qualify, but some who
are around #20 do qualify. However, eligibility for the ATP Final is based
on rankings.
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From: mliu@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Mei-Ling L. Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: ATP U.S. Broadcast Alert
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:07:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, UCSB

In article <1992Nov15.185419.21623@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> mliu@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Mei-Ling L. Liu) writes:
Let me try again.  I have been trying to send this article out twice, each
time it went out without a body.
I think ESPN has, for some reason, scaled back on the amount of broadcast
of the ATP Championship.  Instead of the T-Th broadcast of the early rounds,
as previously advertised, I only see ONE broadcast of those early rounds:
on Friday, 9:30-11:30 am (PST).  This is based on the LA Times Sunday
TV Guide, which is usually pretty reliable.  
Could others please check their listings and see if they see the same?
ESPN boardcasts nationwide, so I don't think the change is limited to
this area (Calif.).
Send me e-mail if you wish.  Thanks.
M. Liu
mliu@cs.ucsb.edu
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: Who won the Grand Slams this year?
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:02:02 GMT

In article <22NOV199208342243@cats.ucis.vill.edu> 000087384@cats.ucis.vill.edu (GUNNA, SANDEEP) writes:
>
>Been a lond time since I kept track of the circuit but,
>Who won the Grand Slams this year among the men.
>I remember Seles won three(who else) and Steffi took
>Wimbeldon among te women,
>Thanks
>
>->sandeep

If my memory hasn't failed me yet, Courier won Australian and French,
Agassi won Wimbledon and Edberg won U.S Open.
From: cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Virginia Slims Spoiler
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:02:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov23.040714.7489@eng.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
>
>    I'm beginning to think that men's tennis really has nothing compared
>to Seles (and possibly Graf).  
>
   Men's tennis, by contrast,
>really has no one (not even Agassi) who can just bang back returns no
>matter how big the serve.   Neither Courier nor Agassi have the kind of
>consistency that Monica has.  


Sorry, but IMCO (In My Correct Opinion), you are mistaken Charles.

The problem with a lack of dominance in the men's game is that there are in 
fact about 100 Monica's.  Men's tennis is so much more competitive.  The women
would be as competitive if natural selection hadn't created such freaks of 
nature as Martina and Monica.  They possess physical skills which other women
cannot attain no matter how hard and long they train.  Jenny Capriati is alsoo
one of these "freaks" of which I speak.  I saw her play when she was eleven
years old--she was just as big as the men and was hitting the ball twice 
as hard.  Sorry, no matter how much Aranxta (to cite a typical example of 
an overworked, average female player) trains.. she will never be anywhere
near close to the level of a Monica or a Steffi.
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Becker Fans
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:30:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I've always wondered about this:

Why do some of the "die-hard" Becker fans keep saying "It's BOOM-BOOM time",
when BOOM-BOOM is not a nickname by which Becker wants to be called.

I recall when the name first started, Becker specifically said he wanted to be
known for more than his serve and specifically did not like the nomer:
"BOOM-BOOM"!
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From: mliu@garden.csc.calpoly.edu (Mei-Ling L. Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: ATP World Championship Telecast Schedule
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:48:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, UCSB


  Friday, ESPN 2-4 PM (EST) early round coverage
  Saturday, ESPN 12:30 - 3:30 PM (EST) semifinal coverage
  Sunday, ESPN 4-7 PM (EST) final.

  The Friday coverage is supposed to be live.

M. Liu
mliu@cs.ucsb.edu.usa
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Virginia Slims of Philadelphia Final results (SPOLIERS)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:08:50 GMT

Graf d. Sanchez-Vicario: 6-3, 3-6, 6-1

ESPN provided a tape delayed broadcast. Originally they allocated
1.5 hours for the broadcast, which wouldn't have quite covered all
three sets. To make things worst, a auto racing program cut into
the broadcast by some 20 minutes. They ended up showing just selected
games from each one of the three sets :-(.

It was reported that Graf was playing her best tennis ever earlier
this week, but she got into some trouble in the final. I had expected
that the fast surface would favor Graf. As the match turned out, it was
a fairly typical Graf-Sanchez match: Graf going for one winner after
another, making some unforced errors, while Sanchez trying to track
down ball after ball. Graf was clearly making a lot more unforced
errors than earlier this week because she was really going for the
lines. Except for the beginning of the second set when Graf was broken
and couldn't convert many break points to break back, she was pretty
much in control of the match. Quite a few times Graf had Sanchez
scrambling to track down some balls, but instead of volleying the returns
from the net, she let the ball bounce and attempted another winner
with her ground strokes. As a result, Graf gave Sanchez time to recover
and get back into those points.

I would say this was a good match. Steffi Graf played quite well, and,
as far as I can tell, showed no signs of the nagging shoulder problem
that has been bothering her on and off in the past few months. There are
indications that her top-spin backhand and net game are coming together,
perhaps slowly. Sanchez-Vicario has clearly improved from two/three years
ago and has been very consistent all year. I wouldn't be surprised if
her ranking moves up to #3-4 next year.
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From: mmmirash@fury.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi)
Subject: Re: Frankfurt-semi-and-final-results
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:44:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Nov23.133056.23869@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  ) writes:
>Hi, netters :)
>
>As you probably all know by now, "our" Boris is World Champion 92.
>Here are the results:
>
>Saturday, semi:
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Courier  -  Sampras      7:6 (7:5),  7:6 (7:4)   (*sniff*)
>Becker   -  Ivanisevic   4:6,  6:4,  7:6 (9:7)
>
>Sunday, final:
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Becker   -  Courier      6:4, 6:3, 7:5
>
>There was this birthday-party for Boris afterwards, which was really nice,
> though I didn't want him to win this title.
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      I remember you wanted Pete Sampras to beat Becker in the final
in a 5 setter. Another chap wanted Lendl to beat Becker in 5 sets with
the netcord in Lendl's favour. This was when the Frankfurt championship
had not yet begun. I was the only guy who predicted that Becker would
win the championship and the final score wouldn't be a 5 setter!

     I can hardly wipe that smirk off my face!  :)


What time is it? It's BOOM BOOM time!!!


                                              From a diehard Becker fan.
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From: dklee@cs.umd.edu (Dennis Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Edberg-Becker, Courier-Chang SPOILERS
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:01:10 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Courtesy of BBC World Service,
	Becker hands Edberg  his most devastating  and 20th loss:
	6-4, 6-0 (the turning point was in the 7th game of the
	first set when Edberg failed to hold his serve).  The crowd
	must have loved it.  Becker is now 20-10 head-to-head with Edberg,
	and has virtually ended any chance that Edberg had of regaining his
	world #1 ranking.  In another match, Jim Courier handed Michael
	Chang his third straight defeat in the tournament by beating him
	7-5, 6-2.  The semi-finals now line-up as:
		Sampras vs Courier
		Becker vs Ivanisevic.

>Dennis. 
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From: shun@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (shun.cheung)
Subject: Capriati (Re: One result from tonight 11/14)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:12:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.141746.108487@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman) writes:

>[stuff deleted on Graf's defeat of Capriati]
>>>6-0,6-1 I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!!!
>
>I can believe it.  Since the US Open, Jen has been a teen-ager, hasn't played
>any tournaments.  I just hope this kind of a loss doesn't take the fun out of
>the sport for Jen.

After that match, Capriati acknowledged that Graf was playing great
tennis and her loss has nothing to do with her lack of tournament play.
Moreover, Capriati won her matches easily in the two rounds before that.
Capriati has quite a few bad losses this year as well as some unexpected
victories. The problem is that she just has a tremendous power game but
little strategy, and she neither has Seles' accuracy nor mental toughness.
But we have also found out that Graf is no longer as consistent as she
used to be any more.
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From: ratte@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de (  Cordula Reineke  )
Subject: Becker - Korda  6:4, 6:2
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:10:22 GMT

BB started very concentrated and got his first break in the very first game.
(1:0) BB had some problems with his 1st service, but won the game.
(2:0) PK acting far better than before.
So the set went on quite straight up to 6:4.

PK played a very clear style in the second set, with less unforced errors
and less risc. Statistics of 1st service: BB 36% (!), PK 54%.
(1:0) Though the match looks rather unimpressive, PK reaches deuce against
BB's service.
BB has two very critical decsions against his service by the same line-judge
and almost detonates with fury. PK gets a breakpoint, but even can't use
his 2nd one - Boom-Boom is fighting!
(1:1) BB takes revenge by breaking PK.
(1:2) guess what: PK tries to rebreak, gets 2 breakpoints, BB recovers to
deuce (1 ace), another breakpoint, another ace, a service-winner and an ace,
and BB s safe again.
(1:3) 15:30, PK has to change his raquet, then double-faults, still can reject
2 breakpoints, then adv. BB again, and PK hits another df.
(1:4) For the first time I realize that the spectators are very fair. They
hardly ever imitate the whistling of the magic eye, they don't clap their
hands for double-faults, and they treat PK very kind in their sympathy.
40:30, BB double-faults, and it takes him several attmepts to win the game.
(1:5) BB's backhand-returns are a bit too long, PK plays very carefully and
wins his service quickly.
(2:5) Bad decision against PK (as far as I could see it), but BB too strong
anyway - 2 matchpoints. A little df by BB - "how much lacosts the world?" -
but after the 11th ace people give standing ovations to BB.

The result doesn't show the high quality of PK's tennis, which is a pity.
BB deserved to win, but PK should have had a better score in my eyes.
Bad luck. (Of course not for all the Boom-Boom-fans, I know.)
From: gess@knex.Gwinnett.COM (Gess Shankar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Virginia Slims: Nov 16
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:37:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: knex.XL7cuB2w165w
Organization: Knowledge Exchange, GA, US of A

VIRGINIA SLIMS CHAMPIONSHIP
 
Monica Seles (1) d. Nathalie Tauziat, 6-1,6-2
Martina Navratilova (4) d. Manuela Maleeva, 6-2,6-2
 
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From: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: HELLO
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:27:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: jeff.kling@brent.uucp (Jeff Kling) 

Hi to you too!  Swathmore has a gorgeous campus.  Visited it about 7
years ago in the fall and fell in love with it.  Went to School in Mass
instead.  Also nice foliage.