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From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Subject: Wanted - Clear VacUForm Sheets
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 14:30:59 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. Performance Services, Atlanta, GA

   Who would have thought it? I was walking through the Vintage Toy and
Model show help in Marrietta, GA this past weekend and a miracle happened!
There, before my wondering eyes (as the saying goes) was a MATTEL VACUFORM
MACHINE!!! Wait, It get's better. The guy only wanted $40! It is in
perfect working order and even still had the original box and all of the
mold pieces. I can die happy now...

   Actually, there is still one little hitch. I wanted the VacUForm to 
mold small parts (especially clear canopies) and my miracle find didn't
have any plastic sheets included (Oh well, can't have everything - where
would you put it? <grin>). So, (FINALLY, he gets to the POINT!) I find
myself in need of a source for plastic suitable for VacUForming, especially
clear. I seem to remember reading somewhere that neither clear styrene nor
Squardon's ThermaForm is suitable for use in the VacUForm (although why
Thermaform wouldn't work escapes me). Any ideas/recommendations? Thanks
in advance.

					Richard 

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From: tran@f18sunn.nwc.navy.mil (Tri Tran)
Subject: info request
Summary: Request info on A-12 model kit (if any)
Organization: NAWC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:01:24 GMT

Hi all,

Looking for information on any kit available on the A-12 stealth attack aircraft.  
The A-12 is an experimental aircraft for the navy that never went
through to production.  I saw an old issue (July 92) of Fine Scale Modeling
where a reader summited a photo of his A-12 model but not thing more.
Please E-mail me any info or post it on the net.  Thanks in advance.

Tri
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From: peny@ppc.lpc.ethz.ch (Peter Nyffeler ,x4399)
Subject: Gloster Meteor
Reply-To: peny@ppc.lpc.ethz.ch
Organization: ETH-Zuerich, Physical-Chemistry-Lab. - Switzerland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:43:49 GMT


Hello I'am looking for a plastic kit (larger than 1:72) of the

GLOSTER METEOR

can you help me? 


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From: kollerd@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (David R Koller)
Subject: Re: Trains
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date:  2 Oct 92 17:42:48 GMT

whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl) writes:

>You might try reading the newsgroup rec.railroads.model which
>focuses exclusively on model railroading.

Actually, the model railroading newsgroup is called "rec.models.railroad,"  
it's in the same rec.models hierarchy that this group is.  The newsgroup
deals with pretty much every aspect of model railroading.

Dave Koller
kollerd@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu

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From: abennett@athena.mit.edu (Andrew A. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Looking for Model of Liberty Ship
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:15:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.052006.9302@sol.UVic.CA>, kcattell@csr.UVic.CA (Kevin Cattell) writes:
|> 
|> Also, are there any kits for tugboats?
|> 
|> Since he's a beginner, any advice would be appreciated.  Are there
|> any magazines dealing with model ships?

Lindberg makes a nice tugboat kit; perfect for the beginner.  Costs about $10.00
or so.

As for magazines, There *was* one called ScaleShip Modeler, but they became 
"R/C Model Boats & Racing" or something to that effect.  I'm not a hard-core
ship builder, but even I was turned off by the new format (basically, if you're
not into small, fast R/C racing boats, then you're considered a 2nd class reader).
And I *Like* R/C ships!

-Drew

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From: msprague@superior.mcwbst311b (Mike Sprague)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Removing the Chrome
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:20:27 GMT
Organization: Xerox

Frequently I find that model cars come with way to many parts
chromed, or at least, parts I do not want chromed.  I have tried
number of ways to remove the chrome, and so far, the best way
seems to be soaking the parts in household ammonia.  In a short
while, the chrome is gone.

However, once I remove the parts from the ammonia, and attempt
to clean them (soap and watter), I find that they are covered
by a hard yellow film.  If I soak the parts in Alcohol, it
softens the film enough so that it can usually be scrapped off.
This takes a lot of work though, and sometimes, even though I'm
careful, the part get's scratched.

When reading modeling magazines, they make it sound so easy to
remove chrome and paint the part, that I wonder if I am missing
the boat.  Anyone know an easy way to remove chrome from a part,
and not end up with this film?

			~ Mike  (sprague.wbst311@xerox.com)
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From: mvalinis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael J Valinis)
Subject: Liberty shop model
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:55:51 GMT

A recent posting to this group, which I've since deleted (sorry!), asked about 
available kits for a liberty ship.  I realise that this group seems to be 
geared towards builders of plstic models, but I thought I'd pass along this 
info anyway.  Bluejacket Ship Crafters has a 1/16 scale kit of a liberty ship 
available. This is a wooden kit with a solid pre-carved hull and it cal be 
fitted for either wartime or peacetime operations.  The length of the completed
model is 27-1/2" and the price was $180.00 a year ago... it may have increased 
slightly since then.  I don't have Nluejacket's catalog at hand but it is also 
available from The Dromedary Ship Modeler's Center, 6324 Belton, El Paso, TX 
79912.  Their catalog costs $6.00, but it is THICK and lists many kits, plans, 
fittings, supplies, tools, books, etc.  Are there any other people out there 
interested in wooden ship models?
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From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Scale Ship Modelers: HMS Hood
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:55:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I posted this on alt.models last year but received only two responses.  I am 
looking for kits or plans of the HMS Hood in 1/200 scale or larger.  I have
obtained 1/144 scale plans, but am hoping that someone in England can help with
either 1/192 or 1/200 scale plans.  A kit (or even hull) would be great.  Thanks
for your help and efforts.

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Subject: Re: Slot Cars Anyone?
Followup-To: rec.models.scale
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Aurora, Tyco, Thunderjet 500, Faller
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:45:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.140019.16167@spectrum.xerox.com>, pjg.wbst200ul@xerox.com writes...
> 
>I hope this "fits" in this newsgroup...
> 
>I collect, build, race, and do just about anything 
>with HO scale slot cars.  Anyone else interested in this?
> 
>If you have any old Aurora/Tyco/whatever slot cars, track, 
>or accessories cluttering up your basement/attic/storage room,
>and you want to pass it along to someone who would appreciate it,
>please drop me a note!  I collect this stuff for my own personal
>collection, NOT to re-sell...

I got a few under my bed.  One is a real oldie (at least for me).  It's a
1975 Aurora car that still runs (well, 5 years ago it still did!).

> 
>I also race these little guys on a weekly basis.  We have a local
>group here in Rochester NY, and we run essentially HOPRA rules.  We
>have 7 different racing classes, and we run on 8 different road course
>layouts (no ovals).
> 
>I'd be glad to discuss, either via e-mail or this conference, any other
>details on this subject.
> 
>Paul Graziano
>pjg.wbst200ul@Xerox.com      -or-       graz@rochgte.fidonet.org
> 
> 

I remember a store here in Houston that had slot cars.  I don't think they 
were HO scale.  They were fairly large (I have no idea the scale) and moved
really fast on the tracks.  They went out of business about 2 years ago.

I also saw a segment that ABC World News Tonight did where they showed these
slot cars racing around the track.  The neat thing was that ABC placed these
miniature cameras onto each car giving the TV viewer a "cockpit" view if you 
will.  Ah, modern technology!!

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu
From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: What's the purpose of this group?
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:38:13 GMT
Reply-To: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu
Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
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>>>>> "s" == schlumpf <schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu> writes:

s> Hi everyone...

s> I saw this group on the "new group" list and it looked interesting.
s> What kind of things are supposed to be discussed here?

According to the charter, rec.models.scale is for the discussion of
construction techniques, materials, etc., for all forms of scale
modeling, from polystyrene to trains to RC. Discussion not of
construction, etc., belongs in other groups.

Collecting is right out, sorry; try rec.collecting.

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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: What's the purpose of this group? 
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:17:29 GMT


Hi everyone...

I saw this group on the "new group" list and it looked interesting.
What kind of things are supposed to be discussed here?  I've been
looking for a forum where I can find fellow horse model enthusiasts.
Not necessarily just collecting, but I know folks who remake these 
and of course, to make it realistic, it all has to be to the scale of the
horse, which is the object behind photo showing.  I started a small
e-mail mailing list of Breyer horse folks, but we're always looking
for new places to find new people and discuss things...

So, is this group just for planes/trains/automobiles/ships or is it
big enough for the horse crazy folks too??? Just curious!

Kay Schlumpf

Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Subject: Re: Liberty shop model
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:44:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.080558.26393@netcom.com>, obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien) writes...
>st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver) writes:
>> mvalinis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael J Valinis) writes...
>>>info anyway.  Bluejacket Ship Crafters has a 1/16 scale kit of a liberty ship 
>>
>>Well, what do you know, they do sell a Liberty ship kit!  However, I doubt if
>>the scale is 1/16 since the model is only 27.5" long.  Anyways, I am very
> 
> 
>Probably not 1:16, since that would make the Jeremiah O'Brien less than
>fourty feet long.  But possibly 1/16" scale, which would make her 440'

Yes, I believe he meant 1/16" = 1 foot which if I am not mistaken would make the
kit at 1/192 scale.  This is a popular ship scale.

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu

> 
>I believe that outside of the world of plastic kits, scales (other than
>1:48) are *often* referred to by the shorthand of how many inches to
>the foot.  Then again there's RR's OO scale, which I believe is
>four millimetres to the foot!  (what a combination!)
> 
> 
>Bob {I'd prefer 3/8" armor, but there's more good kits in 1:35} O'Brien 
> 
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: stauffer@src.honeywell.com (Don Stauffer)
Subject: Photos to scale drawings
To: rec.models.scale
Posted-Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 09: 16:59 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:16:59 GMT
Received-Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 09: 17:00 CDT

On my earlier post for sources of racing car drawings, Bill Soll (name may
not be correct, I goofed in saving message) suggests drawings from photos.
I have done this, and I might point out some of the pitfalls to others who
try it.  The problem comes when you do not know the exact vantage point from
which the photo was taken.  This is primarily true for quartering shots.

If you are taking the photos themselves, fine, there are some things you can
do to ease the problem, which I have found work.  I have used these ideas
on both cars and boats.  First, use as long of a focal length as possible
(limited only by your ability to back up and still take in the whole
vehicle.  This reduces the perspective effect (makes it more like an
isometric).  Shoot from as perpendicular as possible to side and front
(usually not possible to get top view!).  This is important.  Aim for a
point in the center, and stay square on.  This also reduces perspective.

For getting absolute dimensions, two methods are possible (photo only
normally gives relative dimensions).  One, take a tape measure along
and make one measurement for each view.  Two, if this is not possible,
measure distance (or estimate as closely as possible) from vehicle to
camera point, and record focal length.  Similar triangles can then be used
on print or negative (oh yes, on print carefully measure enlargement ratio)
to measure points on vehicle.
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: Trains (was: What's the purpose of this group?)
Followup-To: rec.models.scale
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:09:48 GMT

In article <ANDRE.92Oct5094711@king.slc.mentorg.com> andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut) writes:

>Trains are right out, sorry; try rec.models.railroad.

   [Lurker pauses, dons asbestos suit]

Excuse me, but I >DO< build model trains...    I >DO NOT< have a model
railroad.  Does this mean I'm not welcome here?

I mean--  I build static scale models of actual full-size pieces of
railroad equipment, but they don't move.  The trains are set on a
piece of track and often enclosed in a glass/plastic enclosure to
look at.  They are not powered.

Oh, well
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Subject: Tuf-fil
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:24:00 GMT

Recently, I started casting my own parts using the similar techniques found in
Shep Paine's book HOW TO BUILD DIORAMAS.  In it he refers to a "thick polyester
patching material" called Tuf-fil.  He uses the Tuf-fil for the fast setting
time while using the Tuf-fil hardener as the catalyst.  

I have never been able to find this substance anywhere.  Paine mentions an 
address, but I would like to buy it locally.  For now, I have been simply 
using the polyester resin substances that you use for glassing model boats, 
airplanes, etc.  Any help would be appreciated. 

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu

Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: gse@ida.liu.se (Goran Sedvall)
Subject: Re: What's the purpose of this group? 
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:26:02 GMT

schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu () writes:


>Hi everyone...

>I saw this group on the "new group" list and it looked interesting.
>What kind of things are supposed to be discussed here?  I've been
>looking for a forum where I can find fellow horse model enthusiasts.
>Not necessarily just collecting, but I know folks who remake these 
>and of course, to make it realistic, it all has to be to the scale of the
>horse, which is the object behind photo showing.  I started a small
>e-mail mailing list of Breyer horse folks, but we're always looking
>for new places to find new people and discuss things...

>So, is this group just for planes/trains/automobiles/ships or is it
>big enough for the horse crazy folks too??? Just curious!

>Kay Schlumpf

In my opinion should your horses fit in this group. I build and
paint lead figures and somtimes  they are sitting on a horse, so
I can't see the difference. However, horse modelling is a typical
american fenonomen, isn't it? I've never seen it here in Europe.
Goran
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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Trains
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 08:51:10 GMT


Is any body out there into N scale model trains?

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From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Subject: Re: Liberty shop model
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.225551.6248@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mvalinis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael J Valinis) writes...
>A recent posting to this group, which I've since deleted (sorry!), asked about 
>available kits for a liberty ship.  I realise that this group seems to be 
>geared towards builders of plstic models, but I thought I'd pass along this 
>info anyway.  Bluejacket Ship Crafters has a 1/16 scale kit of a liberty ship 
>available. This is a wooden kit with a solid pre-carved hull and it cal be 
>fitted for either wartime or peacetime operations.  The length of the completed
>model is 27-1/2" and the price was $180.00 a year ago... it may have increased 
>slightly since then.  I don't have Nluejacket's catalog at hand but it is also 
>available from The Dromedary Ship Modeler's Center, 6324 Belton, El Paso, TX 
>79912.  Their catalog costs $6.00, but it is THICK and lists many kits, plans, 
>fittings, supplies, tools, books, etc.  Are there any other people out there 
>interested in wooden ship models?

Well, what do you know, they do sell a Liberty ship kit!  However, I doubt if
the scale is 1/16 since the model is only 27.5" long.  Anyways, I am very
interested in wooden ships.  

My only experience is with scale R/C vessels planked with bass or balsa wood.
I would like to try my hand at one of those "museum quality" sailing vessels.

BTW, the Dromedary is a fine place to shop for ship modelers.  I have seen 
their catalog(I do not have one) and they have plenty of stuff for the ship
modeler.  Now, if I only lived in El Paso and not Houston!

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu

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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: Trains
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 14:44:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.085110.752@mr.med.ge.com> bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971) writes:

>Is there anyone out there into N scale model trains?

You might try reading the newsgroup rec.railroads.model which
focuses exclusively on model railroading.


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From: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Richard Beckett)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:33:27 GMT
Subject: Jaguar XJ-220
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Reply-To: rik@hplb.hpl.hp.com

	Hi folks,

	I am trying to start a new project, that being to build a 1/8 th scale
	Jag XJ-220, but right down to the last detail. Does anyone have, or
	know where I might obtain technical, scale drawings of said beast ?

	Thanks in advance, and feel free to email me.


	Cheers,


		RIK


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From: kcattell@csr.UVic.CA (Kevin Cattell)
Subject: Looking for Model of Liberty Ship
Originator: kcattell@csr
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 05:20:06 GMT

Hi!  My father-in-law is a crew member of the Liberty Ship
Jeremiah O'Brien in San Francisco (this ship is crewed by volunteers).
He has recently started building models, and hopes to someday build
a model of a Liberty Ship.  Has anybody seen a kit for a Liberty Ship?

Also, are there any kits for tugboats?

Since he's a beginner, any advice would be appreciated.  Are there
any magazines dealing with model ships?

Thanks in advance!
kevin

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