HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing-With-Dolphins
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:04:24 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow) writes:

>Hey Danny did you see that post about
>swimming with dolphins having medicinal
>benefits?

>Is that why you were chasing them?

Wow,man was that supposed to be an insult..compliment or pay-out !!
My many experiences with dolphins have been excellent.
They're always a buzz to watch cut through the water.
Just a flash of grey.
Or how bout when they jump and do loops in the air.
Too cool.
You can't help but be bouyed by their enthusiasm and beauty.
Also their curiosity is pretty acute.
They like to really check you out in the surf.
I have had them spiral under-neath me in formation of family
groups...pretty amazing to watch them do that.
They keep their eye on you that way.
 
Groups of up to 15-40 has passed around me within feet ...
Also when they surface about two feet from you and you just see 
an eye look at you.(I'm sure there's poetry in here ).... 

Anyone got a flat spell,write a poem about dolphins.

The two experiences that stand out for me are:
Surfing with a dolphin.

It was in the mid-year holiday break at Ulludulla (Golf Course Reef).
I took off on a small wave and this dolphin appeared parrallel to
my board and travelling in the same direction.
We stayed like that for about 50 metres.
I didn't make any movements.Just stood and watched as it cruised
along underneath me as the wave took us along.
It had the usual white under-belly which was 
faced to the side as well as it's back.
After the wave died at the end of the reef,it just zipped
off.I didn't see it again.

The other experience was seeing a dolphin jump over
the top of my brother from the side.
I was about 16 at the time,and we were surfing at a spot called Mullaway.
( That name has much more meaning now than it ever did then).
This doplphin was carving through the water.
My brother(Grant) was paddling towards the wave and
whoosh this doplhins comes
out of the crest at the top of the wave
and clears him and
swims offf... TOOOOO COOOOL!!!


Hope you enjoyed my dolphin story.I'm off to surf
with a girl I know(beginner sponger)
Bye,
Nigel.
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From: Danny.Clark@launchpad.unc.edu (Danny Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Swims-With-Dolphins
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:22:59 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <40586@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow) writes:
>Hey Danny did you see that post about
>swimming with dolphins having medicinal
>benefits?
>
>Is that why you were chasing them?
>

Yup, I feel better already,  but I wonder how the dolphins feel?

Danny



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From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: did surf big sur (and my shark views)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:47:15 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com

   I did surf big sur last weekend. Wind was about six jillion knots 
(offshore at least).  Waves were big and irregular. Bull kelp was sticking
out everywhere 4 inches worth. I surfed alone and my wife worried. 
I knew it was the place of the orca attack (but I didn't tell her that). 
I got one wave and it was the wave in.

   But I can see how the place would work if it weren't so messy, 
I would go again. I checked out S.C. on my way back and saw that it
was fairly tall, short period stuff there also, although emminently surfable.

   Btw, this share-the-ocean-with-20-foot-sharks new age attitude is making
me ill. The shark is not going to share it with you. I can understand the
respect people have for the ancient animals, and I think that is a good 
thing. But don't get all gushy over them. You have to do one of the following:

1. not surf because there are sharks.
2. surf with a known chance of getting eaten.
3. surf with an unknown, but probably small, chance of getting eaten.
4. kill the sharks.
5. prevent the sharks from entering the area.

It seems that 

2) is interesting because as long as you know what the risks are, 
   it seems less scary. This is the call-jaques-cousteau and ride
   the waves with the tiger sharks idea.

5) is what south africa does with the nets. 

Here in Northern California we do 3) or 1)
because shark attacks are very infrequent and they happen at places 
like davenport landing where people have seen sharks for years.
I don't surf davenport landing. I surf places with lots of kelp.

4) appeals to my strong instinct to counter-attack, but I realize that
humans can't keep just running around nuking everything they don't like
that day. 

later all, I think there is messy wind swell surf out there, but I dinged
my knee somehow so I'm out for a few days.


Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: Andrew Chase <T3F2@UNB.CA>
Subject: <none>
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:24:24 GMT

Could someone please tell me the water temperature in Los Angeles
surfing areas. I hear its cold. Can't be as cold as the water in
New Brunswick, CAnada during the summer! Its ice cold but we crazy
canucks still swim in it! Andrew. Send directly to T3F2@UNB.CA
From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Swimming with Dolphins
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:53:47 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Nov05.000150.3534@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> mcancill@viking.csc.calpoly.edu (Michael Cancilla) writes:

>Seals also tend to be a good monitor of shark potnetial.  Just check
>out the number of headless seals on the beach when you get to a break,
>and you'll get a pretty good fix on shark nastieness.  This has happened
>more than once at Ano Nuevo.
>

Hm, I was wondering how those two headless seals washed up at Beacons
in the last three weeks lost their heads. Hm. I'm serious, too. This
really happened. What I dislike is when they are well decayed and 
there are a bunch of seagulls ......

Yum, Yum.

BTW, It is flat (11/5) here in NSD and I am missing Guy Fawkes day.

Tod, what about a surf this weekend. I will phone you as email seems
not well suited to the tasks of organising a surf .....

Mike
"A brit in yank land"
From: mcancill@viking.csc.calpoly.edu (Michael Cancilla)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Swimming with Dolphins
Date: 5 Nov 92 00:01:50 GMT
Reply-To: mcancill@viking.csc.calpoly.edu (Michael Cancilla)
Organization: Cal Poly State University -- San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Nov4.115700.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au>, g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:

stuff deleted...

> 
> Dolphins are supposed to have some sort of healing power if you go swimming
> with them... I dont know much about it but when I was up north at Monkey
> Mia (one of the only places in the world were dolphins come in constant
> contact with humans while in their natural habitat) one of the Park Rangers
> started telling us about how a dolphin will be able to work out who is the 
> sick or stessed out person and then they swim around the person and try to make
> them feel wanted and looked after, the same way they do for their own sick and
> young. Somehow this releaves stess and has some kind of healing power.....

more stuff deleted...

Well growing up in San Mateo (SF Bay Peninsula), and going to school
in San Luis Obispo for years, has left me sufring in spots usually inhabited
by something, otters, seals, dolphins, and whales.  Dolphins always
freak me out because the first thing I see is the dorsal fin.  Right
away I think "SHARK!!", but then I calm down.  Its really cool catching
the same wave that a dolphin or porpoise is on already, they stay with
the wave until it breaks, and then they disappear, I guess they dive
under at the last minute.

Seals always freak me out, because they have a nasty tendency to just
pop up right next to you from under water.  Scares the bejeezus out of ya!
I guess they just want to see who the hell you are.  I like watching their
heads bob forward and backward when they are on a wave.

Otters aint too bad, they just kinda float around in the kelp, and
whales, at least in my experience, are pretty far off shore.

Seals also tend to be a good monitor of shark potnetial.  Just check
out the number of headless seals on the beach when you get to a break,
and you'll get a pretty good fix on shark nastieness.  This has happened
more than once at Ano Nuevo.

Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: danny@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (Danny Z Clark)
Organization: NSWSES Code 4g13 - Opinions: None
Subject: keith's aversion to stats
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:25:14 -0800
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Keith of hulman.edu writes:

>What the heck is the deal with these Stats?  Who cares what place
>alt.surfing is  in when compared to other Usenet groups.  I Can't believe
>you would even post something like this.  Worst of all there are now three
>responses to this including mine.  I don't get a chance to 'graze' much
>and I get kind of ticked off when I have to sift through the crap to get
>to the real postings.  Let's go back to the old days when every posting

<stuff deleted>

Well Keith, next month when you are 'grazing' and you see 
"November's Stats"  in the header, just hit the "delete" key.  And if you
see a "Re: November's Stats",  hit it again. 

>    The silent reader

>      -keith

I liked you better when you were silent.  Why don't you go back to the 
way you were.   :-)

Danny

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From: kevinl@beach.EBay.Sun.COM (Pray for Surf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: O'Neill's house
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:47:32 GMT
Reply-To: kevinl@beach.EBay.Sun.COM
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: beach.ebay.sun.com


Jack is alive and well at the same address. I saw him in his doorway the last time
I was at the point. I genuflect out of respect every time I pass his house.

Aloha,
Kevin Kimo Laughlin
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: I've been Surfing too Much !!!
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:25:19 GMT

tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow) writes:

>Nigel you post a lot are you getting
>this?  
Sure as hell am dude.

> Is it just quiet right now?
 
Not really I got about 20 new posts from the last couple of days.
Couple from Hawaii one from Jim Jum,....
Shit happens then you die.

"Surf Report":

I have surfed evryday for the last I don't know how long ? (3 days).
I am already sick of summer conditions.
Small shitty surf.
I've been surfing South Beach in the afternoon.
Trying to follow Low-Tide as much as possible.

Got a couple of tubes this morning.
One froathy sand coated one that left me looking like Santa Claus.

Hmm.... time to study.

Bye,
Nigel.
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From: phlally@vax1.tcd.ie
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: rep. of Ireland report
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:19:05 GMT
Organization: Trinity College Dublin

hi, 
	first posting,
	just like tosay Easkey and Tulan strandare working nicely 
at the minute.
			typically 6' but very clean.
		anyone coming to ireland??
			bye.
				slainte,
				 do chara dhil,
					Oscar Needsit.

(phlally@unix1.tcd.ie)
From: clp@mezon.Corp.Sun.COM (Chuck L. Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Pleasure Point not joyful
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:20:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mezon.corp.sun.com

I just purchased a used 7' surfboard and was trying it out at
Pleasure Point a couple of weekends ago.   The leash on this
thing is not the type I am used to where it has a double velcro
type thing; but I figured it should work okay.

The first few times out were fun.  This new board has a pointy tip and
is not similiar to the 7'10" egg shape design I am used to.  I was
having surprising success and able to deal with the quick turning of
the thing quite well. The last time out was not fun, however.

The current seemed especially swift this time.  I got in
at just north of the green house and paddled out through
what seemed like 5km of oncoming current.  Once I got to my
place I was completely exahausted, but happy; as I was about
to surf on my new board again.  Very soon a good wave came by
and I tried to get it.  I got disoriented and dumped immediately.

Uh oh.  Something was wrong, my leg was not being pulled off
at some weird angle.  "Okay fine, it's a long way to shore. I'll easily
be able to catch up to the board.", I thought.  After swimming
about 10m I remembered that I was still completely exhausted.
My board caught some great wave and was tossed spiraling through the
air.  I was actually kind of neat.  But it was high tide and the
waves were crashing against a long row of big rocks.

Ever have the feeling, "If I were experiencing great joy right
now, it would not feel like this." ?  This is exactly how I felt
as I rested in the water watching my board get ever closer to
the zone of doom.

Only after hearing some intense crunches of my board against the rocks
was I able to retrieve my board.  Preliminary inspection uncovered no major
damage!  Just a few 1/4 inch deep "dings" and major scratches which could
be repaired if I were a person who repaired his surfboards.

There was no way I was going to continue without a real leash, so I
decided to get out of the water.  I was able to conduct a more thorough
inspection once out of the water.  Although the left and right fins
were still attached to the board, they were completely flacid.
This is something which must be repaired.
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: October's Stats
Summary: Small towns vs Big Cities
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:36:12 GMT

In article <1dpumgINN41t@west.West.Sun.COM>, p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics) writes:
> In article <9211092359.AA25835@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil> danny@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (Danny Z Clark) writes:
> 
> {..Danny's stat's cut...}  
> 
> 	Well, this is two fold.  First, I want to up alt.surfing
> 	in the ratings for next month.  Second, I think it's the
> 	quality, not the quantity of postings that alt.surfing
> 	is known for....
> 
> (Stuff deleted)
> kp

Hey KP, why should we up the ratings.
One thing I noticed was that during the summer(N. Hemi.)
there was a marked decreased in the number of posts.
I'm not trying to sound snobish, but when there are
too many posters it is hard to keep track of everybody.
One thing I like about this group it is small enough to
pretty much match names with sigs(or locations).

Questions for Danny, B-)
How long have you monitored these stats?
Was there an increase in the standings last spring?
Are we looking at an anual event?
Maybe some sort of migration effect?
I wonder if I could write a grant to study this phenomenum?

Tod
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From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf at SIO
Keywords: Looks Fun, 2-4 foot waves
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:22:46 GMT

It's 10:30 am,
Surf looks fun.
Torrey pines looked good on the way in.

Nancy, I used to ride a motorcycle and
Your analogy is great. 
have some old biker buddies B-) that I will share it
with.

Tod

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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: cs401005@scs.carleton.ca (jeff brinskelle)
Subject: surfing on Lake Superior?
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:13:39 GMT


	Does anyone on the net know of surfing on Lake Superior?  I have been reading for the last few months of surfing on it and Lake Michigan when the winds are right.  I used to live right on Superior but didn't think of ever trying to surf it, maybe cause the waves are more choppy than long and with some power behind them.   Anybody?????
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Wave Forecast
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:18:59 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: njtravis@lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.116

Can anyone give me a clue to determining the location of these buoys?
I don't want to buy a nautical map and my road maps don't show
latitude and longitude. (These are on the North Coast around S.F.)
It looks like some cool waves are happening on the SF peninsula and
I'd like to save some gas! P.S. Whoever posted this info about the
downwind.sprl.umich.edu weather service (Danny?) it is great!
Thanks to John Airey for interpreting the data seconds for me. 
Everything over 13 seconds....hmmm the whole coast looks ridable
from this. Why am I working???

1000 AM PST THU NOV 12 1992
---------------------------------------------------------------------
BUOY  LOCATION    TIME     WIND      AIR    SEA    PRESS   WAVE DATA
NO.               18 Z   DIR KNOTS   TEMPERATURE      MB   FEET SECS
----- ----------  -----  ---------   -----------   ------  ----------
50   44.6/124.5   17 Z  CALM        54.7   53.6   1027.8   10  13
27   41.8/124.4   17 Z  N/A         51.8   53.8   1026.6    6  13
22   40.8/124.5   17 Z  ESE 04      50.7   54.5   1026.4    6  13
30   40.4/124.5   17 Z  N   06      51.6   50.5   1025.5    4  13
14   39.2/124.0   17 Z  E   04      49.6   51.8   1025.5    6  13
13   38.2/123.3   17 Z  NE  04      53.6   54.9   1024.9    5  14
26   37.7/122.7   17 Z  NE  14      55.4   56.7   1025.0    3  14
12   37.4/122.7   17 Z  N   12      56.3   56.1   1024.2    5  13
42   36.8/122.4   17 Z  ENE 10      55.0   MISG   1024.2    5  13
28   35.8/121.9   17 Z  W   08      59.0   MISG   1022.7    4  14
51   34.5/120.7   17 Z  NNW 06      59.5   63.5   1021.2    4  14
23   34.3/120.7   17 Z  NW  10      60.1   60.8   1021.2    4  14
25   33.7/119.1   17 Z  CALM        67.5   64.4   1020.5    2  13
89   PT.ARENA     17 Z  CALM        51.4          1025.7
96   PT.ARGUELLO  17 Z  NNW 06      60.4          1021.2
WAVE RIDER BUOY   16 Z  SANTA CRUZ HARBOR                   2  23
WAVE RIDER BUOY   16 Z  MARINA/MONTEREY BAY                 3  13
WAVE RIDER BUOY   16 Z  DIABLO CANYON                       3  15
WAVE RIDER BUOY   16 Z  PT ARGUELLO/HARVEST PLATFORM        3  15

Anybody know where these buoys are, or can look them up,  I will
be stoked! 

Nancy Jean Travis
"Where the Buoys Are"
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: SHARK ATTACK: Leeward Oahu, Hawaii.
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:06:59 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, kevinl@beach.EBay.Sun.COM (Pray for Surf) writes:
>you guys down under do when the men in grey suits start snacking on your mates?
>Aloha,
>Kevin Kimo Laughlin

Isn't a possible shark attack the reason why you don't surf alone. Maybe
it'll eat the other guy. Your chances of survival are doubled =;0-I-<

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   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil            I surf...I told him I
  /     David Taylor Model Basin            didn't understand the Question
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From: kevinl@beach.EBay.Sun.COM (Pray for Surf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: SHARK ATTACK: Leeward Oahu, Hawaii.
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:00:04 GMT
Reply-To: kevinl@beach.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: beach.ebay.sun.com

Does anyone know where we stand as far as our understanding of the shark population 
off of O'ahu. The killing of sharks in response to an attack seems strictly reactive
and ineffective. I am anxious to know what all you surfers out there think of shark
hunts. Although I surf exclusively in Northern California and Hawaii where my parents
live, I still think sharks are part of the ocean, and not something to be controlled 
by man. Shouldn't we first investigate the population and its behavior? Call up
Cousteau! What's his number? He could probably advise us on this matter. What do
you guys down under do when the men in grey suits start snacking on your mates?
Surely there are similar experiences to what Hawaii is experiencing.

Aloha,
Kevin Kimo Laughlin
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Puerto Rican Surf
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:39:52 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: njtravis@lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.116

In article <kf037F600iV2Q5vIZ2@andrew.cmu.edu> jsck+@andrew.cmu.edu (Javier Soltero) writes:
>
>Surfing is the most awesome
>natural experience and should be a part of every growing boy's breakfast.
>                                                later,
>                                            Javier
>                                                javier@CMU.EDU
Not a bad diet for old women either, Javier.

Nancy Jean Travis
=B-)  There's no surf in Berkeley, either, but I can smell it from here.