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From: hasnie@ecn.purdue.edu (Rizwan Hasnie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: An Interesting Article!! Very Interesting!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:17:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network



I found a very interesting article on Cricket in London's Newpaper "The Times"
dated August 26, 1992. The article appeared on the front page. I am reproducing
it without the consent of "The Times" with all due apologies.
                                                      Rizwan

   
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                SCIENTISTS GO IN TO BOWL FOR ENGLAND

                       By Alan Hamilton


Scientists at the University of Hertfordshire have set up a research project to
crack the code of an enemy secret weapon that has inflicted great damage on
England.  Using computers, wind tunnels, the laws of aerodynamics and a large
number of cricket balls, they will attempt to discover exactly how the
Pakistani bowlers Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram achieve their devastating
reverse swing.

Final-year students in aerospace engineering at the university, formerly
Hatfield Polytechnic, will be set to work on the project when they return for
the new term in October.  They hope to have an answer by May, in good time for
next year's first-class season.

Andrew Lewis, a lecturer more used to teaching the principles of aircraft 
performance and stability, decided to seek a scientific explanation after his
department had received calls from newspapers wanting to know how Waqar and 
Wasim achieved such odd trajectories with the ball. "We tried to get the
answer from the horses's mouth, saying we were engaged in serious research,
but the Pakistani officials gave us the brush-off; there is a bit of an
atmosphere at the moment," Mr Lewis said yesterday.

"A normal outswing bowler holds the polished side to the right, and angles
the seam towards the slips.  The net effect is to make the ball move away from 
the batsman.  Waqar keeps the polished side to the right, but the ball swings
in to the batsman," Mr Lewis said. "I cannot find  a ready explanation for
this; he must angle the seam towards fine leg, like an inswing bowler, but an
inswing bowler keeps the polished side to the left.  One ought to cancel the
other out, but it doesn't."

Research will not be easy.  According to Mr Lewis, the airflow patterns
round a ball in the wind tunnel will be very small and difficult to measure,
and whatever the ball is mounted on may falsify the results.

Some research has already been done on cricketing aerodynamics, but its
conclusions are unsatisfactory.  Received wisdom states that a new ball 
swings more than an old because of its more pronounced seam, a law entirely
ignored by Waqar, who barely swings the new ball at all.

Cricket balls, according to Mr Lewis, are fickle things, and how they behave  
is only partially understood.  There is, for example, no explanation of why
they swing more under cloudy skies than in sun.  Mr Lewis will be happy to
make his findings known to the England team next year, but has a suspicion
that they will not do them much good.
From: moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Hundreds by rival skippers (Was: 3+ hundreds ...
Date: 27 Aug 1992 18:49:09 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <l9r067INNlsn@aludra.usc.edu> moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal) writes:

>Talking of successive batsmen reaching the magical mark, there has been
>one occurence of 4 players:
>
>   Pak vs Ind   Faisalabad   1982-83    No. 3  Javed Miandad   126
>                                        No. 4  Zaheer Abbas    168
>                                        No. 5  Salim Malik     117
>                                        No. 6  Imran Khan      123
>
>It was the same test match where Gavaskar carried his bat in the second
>innings, scoring 127 runs, and giving us to another feat that we are
>talking about on the net as I write these lines!

Ok, more about it now!

This feat has around 20 occurances from the annals of test cricket.
I will try to recount a few of them:

1978-79  Ind vs WI  Bangalore       Gavaskar       205
                                    Kallicharran   187

1986-87  Ind vs Aus Madras          Kapil Dev      163(?)
                                    Allan Border   ***

1982-83  Pak vs Ind Faisalabad      Imran Khan     117
                                    Sunil Gavaskar 127*

These two instances have already been mentioned on the net.

1973-74  Aus vs NZ  Christchurch    Greg Chappell  247* & 133
                                    Glenn Turner   110

1979-80  Aus vs Pak Faisalabad      Greg Chappell  235
                                    Javed Miandad  107*

1987     Eng vs Pak Oval            Imran Khan     118
                                    Mike Gatting   151*


>I wish I could add more :-(

ditto


>Nadeem Moghal
>USC
From: dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Cricket Phrases
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:29:44 GMT
Reply-To: dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs



In a recent conversation, I was discussing over the odd beer or eight the 
number of cricket phrases/terms that have become accepted in everyday
conversation.

We came up with the following: (please excuse the sexist nature of the 
terms -:))

	1. That hit him for six.
	2. He had a good innings.
	3. My pen's run out (well, I did say we'd been drinking).
	4. That stumped him.

Can anyone add to this list? Serious comments or otherwise will be
equally well accepted.

Thanks,

Dave Grove.

=========================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket,soc.culture.pakistan
From: raza@surya.ccs.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: J Miandad: Pakistan's Best Batsman and Captain....
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:56:31 GMT

In article <l9vpojINNg5u@aludra.usc.edu> moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal) writes:
>>	b) How many catches did Javed take while keeping the wickets? 
>
>The total, I don't know, but I do remember a most spectacular effort,
>to dislodge none other than Vivian Richards. Even the king was stunned
>at seeing that Miandad reached the ball. 

I think that was in ODI when Anil Dalpat had to leave the field b/c
of fever, after that match Saleem yousuf was given a chance in test
match b/c of the illness of Zulqarnain and Anil Dalpat, and every one knows
that what he did in that match and afterwards.
>
>It was a very fine snick down the leg side, and Javed dived full-length
>to his left, adn go the ball when he was almost horizontal, suspended
>in air!

was it on the leg side? as far as my memory goes it was waseem akram
or imran bowling to richards, richard got an edge towards slip and miandad
dived full lengt to what would have been a space b/w 1st and 2nd slip,
that was quite a remarkable catch for a wkt keeper by any standards first
because it was too far and second that the ball was really travelling.


P.S: I think that miandad did'nt took any catches in test matches as
a wkt keeper, so its just one stumping, but  this is from my
rusted memory cells.

>
>>Vicky:
>>UMass, Aug 28
>
>Nadeem Moghal
>USC
>
>
>

S.R.Raza
From: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Aus v SL T2 D2
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:31:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19961
Reply-To: ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU


           Australia were bowled out for 245 in their first innings on the
second day. No further play was possible due to rain.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu (Deep Third Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: First Test - Score card - Australia v/s Sri Lanka
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:26:00 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <BtpHqM.24y@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>In article <0095F9E4.41B490A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>			Australia vs. Sri Lanka.
>>			      First Test.
>>AUSTRALIA. Second innings.
>>T. Moody                           b. Ramanayake             13

...deleted...,

>>Extras (1 w, 34 nb, 23 lb)                                   58
	******
>>Total                                                       471

>moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal) writes:
>>Has anyone noticed that all eleven players in the Australian second
>>innings reached double figures?

>What struck me was that 471 runs were scored with no one making a
>century.  

It is also interesting that only 1 wide was given away in a total
of 471.  That has to be a record of sorts. Although, the 34 no-balls 
are a disgrace.

I remeber that Wasim Akram in particular had trouble with wides during the 
World Cup. Did he manage to correct the problem?

- Vasee
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:16:08 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: More Cricket Songs

In article <1992Aug28.082048@is.morgan.com>, rupertb@is.morgan.com (Rupert
Brown) says:
>
>Also, Wishbone Ash once brought out an album called "There's The Rub" (?)
>with a nice cover drawing of a new ball being rubbed on the flannels ...
>
how about the album cover of elton john's "greatest hits", which shows him
padded up and in a batting stance.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

Cogito ergo potum                               I think therefore I drink
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From: gagan@cs.umd.edu (Gagan Agrawal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: 3+ hundreds in an innings (Was: First Test Australia v/s Sri Lanka)
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:07:59 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <l9r067INNlsn@aludra.usc.edu> moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal) writes:

>Talking of successive batsmen reaching the magical mark, there has been
>one occurence of 4 players:
>
>   Pak vs Ind   Faisalabad   1982-83    No. 3  Javed Miandad   126
>                                        No. 4  Zaheer Abbas    168
>                                        No. 5  Salim Malik     117
>                                        No. 6  Imran Khan      123
      
      I really doubt is this is correct.   Imran Khan used to 
come at number 7 those days. The pakistan team for that match was

   Mudassar Nazar, Mohsin Khan,  Mansoor Akhtar, J. Miadad, Abbas, 
  Salim Malik,  Imran Khan, Wasim Bari, Sarfraz Nawaz, Qadir and 
  Sikandar Bakht. 

   I think that Mansor Akhtar came in somewhere in between 
   at no. 4 or no. 5 in that match and failed. 

    There is some possibility that Mansoor Akhtar came at 
  no. 3 and then no. 4, 5, 6, 7 batsmen scored centuries. 

  Can any one confirm this ?

gagan


>
>Nadeem Moghal
>USC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: cricket article in the economist
From: mehta@ucunix.san.uc.edu (mehta)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 14:21:59 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Just happened to read a wonderful article about cricket in the most
recent Economist (of all places).

Compares the greatness of cricket with baseball and some extent
football.  The article goes on to say that cricket is profound because
it is the only sport where the great players can be old (Miadad, Border)
or very young (SRT, Mustaq).  The presnt worlcup winning Pakistan side
had players who are close to 40 and players who are not yet 20.  The
average age is close to the American league All-Star side but the std.
dev of the age is much more.

Just thought that it was interesting to see something like that.

raj
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Touring NZ (was Re: Aussie bowling)
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:49:28 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <92235.110441SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>, Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> well, you might think that the climate is nice, but, summers in NZ can
> sometimes get as chilly as winters in india, so you really can't blame indians
> for not liking the climate in NZ.

So, conversely, you can't blame New Zealanders for not liking the climate in
India.

> the problem is especially bad in christchurch (i think). well, anyway, the 
> southernmost venue in NZ which is supposed to very windy. 

Bzzzt - wrong answer :-). The southernmost test venue in New Zealand is in 
Dunedin which is not particularly windy *except* when there is a southerly 
blowing.

> gavaskar in his autobiography complained that they were told that the test 
> venue was close to the south pole but they felt like they were ON the south 
> pole.

Must have been a southerly at some stage over those five days then - those
little suckers blow straight off the ice-caps. BTW the World Cup match between
India and New Zealand was played at Carisbrook, Dunedin, this year on a day
that so bad that many rugby players would have stayed indoors.

Alan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: ganesh@cs.albany.edu (Ganesh Murugesan)
Subject: Re: World's best fielder
Originator: ganesh@karp.albany.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, SUNY at Albany, Albany, NY 12222
	<1992Aug29.024810.15225@cs.su.oz.au>
	<1992Aug30.182051.22197@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:38:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.182051.22197@leland.Stanford.EDU> urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan) writes:


   In article <29F=03c16eop00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, ahmed@uts.amdahl.com (Syed S. Ahmed) writes:
   >|> 
   >|>         Talking about fielding, who do you netters think are the
   >|> best fielders. If I were to make a pick; I would choose
   >|> Azharuddin as the worlds best fielder and Gus Logie would be a close
   >|> second. For the third spot it would be Roger Harper, fourth
   >|> Roshan Mahnama and fifth Dean Jones.

>>   Jonty Rhodes of SA came in for a lot praise during the World Cup; several
>> of the ABC commentary team felt he was the best.

How about Tony Blain of NZ. He was an Outstanding Fielder.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: dhanda@skorpio.usask.ca (Sanjay Dhanda)
Subject: CATCHES BY GAVASKAR IN TEST CRICKET ?
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:22:34 GMT

Hi,
      can anyone please recall the number of catches taken by Sunil
Gavaskar in test cricket. Also, who are the top five test-catchers 
among Indian cricketeers (by top I mean strictly numbers) ?

Sanjay
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: twht5@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Cricket at isu
Reply-To: twht5@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:48:38 GMT

center. Please feel free to join us.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston)
Subject: Re: Cricket Phrases
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:08:34 GMT

David Grove (dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk) wrote:
: 
: 
: In a recent conversation, I was discussing over the odd beer or eight the 
: number of cricket phrases/terms that have become accepted in everyday
: conversation.
: 
: We came up with the following: (please excuse the sexist nature of the 
: terms -:))
: 
: 	1. That hit him for six.
: 	2. He had a good innings.
: 	3. My pen's run out (well, I did say we'd been drinking).
: 	4. That stumped him.
: 
: Can anyone add to this list? Serious comments or otherwise will be
: equally well accepted.
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: Dave Grove.
: 
: =========================================================================
-- 
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From: hassan@bcrka434.bnr.ca (Abu Hassan)
Subject: Cricket in Toronto
Originator: hassan@bcrka434
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:46:15 GMT

            
Does anybody have any info about the one day match to be held at Skydome
in Toronto between Pakistan and The World X1 !!

I heard that the date has been changed from Sept 26 (Sat) to Sept 27 (Sun) !!

Please provide all the detail available

Timings, Price of ticket and where available, Which players are coming etc.

Thanks in advance

- Hassan


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From: prasad@cpdw.enet.dec.com (R Bharani Prasad)
Subject: Re: First Test - Score card - Australia v/s Sri Lanka
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:14:05 GMT


In article <karnik.714756178@giga>, karnik@giga.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes...
>In rec.sport.cricket, Murali Iyer (or rather, Daniel) writes:
> 
>>SRI LANKA. First Innings.
> 
>>Gurusinha      c. Jones            b. Whitney               137
>>Ranatunga      c. Warne            b. Matthews              127
>>Kaluwitharane                      Not Out                  132
> 
>	When was the last time three batsmen scored centuries in the same
>innings of a Test match ? I don't think the Pakistanis did it during their 
>two huge innings in the just-concluded series in England.
> 
>

One such instance was in the 3rd test of the 1985-86 India - OZ series. Indians
made 500 for 3/4 decl. Sunny, Srikanth and Jimmy made centuries. Is there
another occasion where No.1, 2 & 3 hv scored centuries in the same innings.
That was the last century by the "Little Master", the 34th. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin)
Subject: Re: Accusations of Cheating
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 12:52:47 GMT

In article <917@hobby.ukc.ac.uk> srd@ukc.ac.uk (S.R.Davies) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.091803@axion.bt.co.uk> dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove) writes:
>>
>>I caught a glimpse of the news this morning in which it would appear that
>>Alan Lamb accused the Pakistan bowlers of picking the seam etc.
>>
>>Without wishing to re-open this can of worms, can someone confirm if:
>>
>>	a. there has been a formal accusation
>>	b. the umpires from the fourth ODI have made a statement as to 
>>	   why they changed the ball.
>>	c. there has been any response from Pakistan
>>

		[ stuff deleted ]

I did not read any newspaper for last few days. I have no idea
whatsoever of what is going in the tabloids. However, I watched TV news
reports about accusations of cheating & ball doctoring. Newsnight on
BBC2 on Monday (24th August) showed a special report on this. For a
short time they showed the moment the ball was being examined. The
umpires and Ramiz Raja were looking at the ball by holding it in the air
& looking it form a short distance. They checked the surface of the ball
as well. However, it appeared that they were checking the shape of the 
ball more than anything else. Later, R. Illingworth was explaining how
a doctored ball swings more than usual. The samples he was showing all 
had very bad scratch marks. Now, those kind of scratch marks can easily 
be made when the ball hits the bounday walls, fences and advertising
boards which are always there on the ground. A Prof. of Aerodynamics at
Imperial College  was of the opinion that a ball moving at a very high
speed can indeed  reverse swing. He came to that conclusion from
experiments done a few years back. John Lever, one of the best swing
bowlers of recent past was on that report as well. He dismissed the
accusaions out of hand and replied yes, when asked if this is an example
of foul cries of bad losers. 

A good number of wickets fell after the ball was changed during the
lunch break (2nd day, 4th ODI). The ball was still swinging, especially
when Waqar was bowling. So, why this accusation ? Or, do the accusers
believe that the 2nd ball was also doctored ? 

There was another program on the same topic same night . Devil's
Advocate on Channel 4. The presenter was trying to prove that this
accusations are indeed stupid and have no grounds. I am not discussing
much about that program  as I felt that the program was not well
balanced.

- Rahin
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Daniel's e-mail address!
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:32:37 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

Slight error im my last post - my e-mail address is
IN%"9207987H@Levels.UniSA.Edu.Au"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: Touring NZ (was Re: Aussie bowling)
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 03:03:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.144929.474@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty) writes:
|> In article <92235.110441SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>, Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> 
|> > the problem is especially bad in christchurch (i think). well, anyway, the 
|> > southernmost venue in NZ which is supposed to very windy. 
|> 
|> Bzzzt - wrong answer :-). The southernmost test venue in New Zealand is in 
|> Dunedin which is not particularly windy *except* when there is a southerly 
|> blowing.
|> 

	Ah yes, one of those places which aren't particularly windy,
	except when the wind is blowing.

	Cricket:
		When are Sth Africa playing a Test Series next?

		Was England's score v Pakistan (3rd ODI) the
		highest EVER in an international One Day game?
		Does anybody have a list of such high scores?

	tom
From: ahmed@uts.amdahl.com (Syed S. Ahmed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Inzamam and run outs
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:48:21 GMT
Reply-To: ahmed@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com ()
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug27.111219.19110@actrix.gen.nz> you write:
>
 [Stuff about Inzimam and manjrekar being poor runners deleted]

>we all know how good a runner/fielder Mohd. is (aka Dean Jones, if I may
>compare; Yeah I remember the innings of 93 vs Australia where he was
>run-out but that was only due to AB's brilliant left-handed effort.

        Talking about fielding, who do you netters think are the
best fielders. If I were to make a pick; I would choose
Azharuddin as the worlds best fielder and Gus Logie would be a close
second. For the third spot it would be Roger Harper, fourth
Roshan Mahnama and fifth Dean Jones.

        I remember Zimbabwe having some outstanding fielders in their
'87 world cup team. Names like Andrew Waller and Kevin Curren comes
to mind. Did these two make it to the '91 World Cup??

P.S: I have not seen a cricket match in the last couple of years; so
my views are based on the players I saw before 90.

--
sabeel

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