HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay)
Subject: Garmin Data Port (was:Re: What is the dif...)
Organization: NASA-Ames Biocomputation Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:24:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.175702.25091@news.arc.nasa.gov>, doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay) writes:
|> In article <JOE.92Oct14010817@oilean.islandsw.com>, joe@oilean.islandsw.com (Joe McGuckin) writes:
|> |> Well, the Garmin factory rep said that the dataport of the 55 strips the least significant digit
|> |> from the data stream going out. He said that if you want to use it with a moving map, they want
|> |> you to buy the  model 100.  Smart marketing move- right?
|> |> 
|> 
|> The least sig digit out of how many? Something like this makes a big difference
|> to my willingness to buy. I had not heard this before. I noticed that GARMIN
|> has a 1-800 number, and I guess now I have a reason to call for info.
|> 

Well I called Garmin and they asked me to fax them the question so that
they answered the right question. Careful or paranoid ... who knows? I eMailed to
Joe for a little more info, and will fax it all to Garmin Monday morning.
I will post whatever I find out

David		doshay@soma.arc.nasa.gov

The thought police insist I tell you:
my thoughts, not NASA's
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products,mi.forsale
From: wpeloqui@medar.com (Willie Peloquin)
Subject: Portable Loran for sale
Organization: Medar, Inc.     Farmington Hills, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:23:47 GMT
Summary: LongRanger Loran for sale



For Sale:

	Azure Long Ranger Loran

	This is a rechargable self contained Loran unit. Ideal for a
	rental plane only pilot. It comes with two antennas, a case,
	a transformer for recharging the batteries and the owners
	manual. It stores 99 waypoints, will locate the nearest
	airport, computes winds aloft, 10 flight plans can be entered.
	While in use it provide a high and low resolution CDI, the 
	high resolution CDI is used when close to your destination;
	groundspeed, heading to fly, actual heading. It is just a
	great thing to have while flying. I know it has spoiled me!
	I have used it successfully all over Michigan and up
	to Toronto. It works quite well. I am trying to build up
	enough cash to purchase a portable GPS. I am an incurable
	gadget hound!

	Price: $300.00 COD.

	Send Email for more information.
-- 
Willie Peloquin		      | I'm not a kid anymore, but this ain't no
wpeloqui@medar.com	      | midlife crisis, because whiskey and women
uunet!medar!n8mdy!wpeloqui    | have always been my vices!       Bocephus
From: harry@gotham.East.Sun.COM (Henry Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: HP 48SX aviation pak
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:43:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: harry@gotham.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: wishbringer.east.sun.com

Hi there ... First time post so be gentle :-)

Anyway, I have a HP 48SX, which I bought on a whim about a year ago. I
probably regretted right afterwards because I have no need for such a
powerful calculator.

Well, about a few weeks ago, I came across an ad or somewhat, which
mentioned an aviation pak for this calculator. Unfortunately, I lost
the ad, and would kindly apprieciate any info on this. If you are
already using this pak, I would apprieciate your opinion on it also.

Thanks in advance,
Henry
PP-ASEL



Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay)
Subject: Re: What is the dif. between the FLIGHTMATE and 55 AVD?
Organization: NASA-Ames Biocomputation Center
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:20:58 GMT

These two handheld GPS units were reviewed in the latest Aviation Consumer.

Just from reading I tend to lean towards the 55AVD, but the article says
that learning to use either is not too hard.

David		doshay@soma.arc.nasa.gov

The thought police insist I tell you:
my thoughts, not NASA's
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: kerry@Ingres.COM (Kerry Kurasaki)
Subject: That Headset Question Again
Reply-To: kerry@Ingres.COM (Kerry Kurasaki)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:49:06 GMT

I've had my Telex ANRs for about two years now and still really love
them.  Occasionally I'll find an intercom that is incompatible with
the Telex mic, but other times it's fine.

The active noise reduction works better in higher performance aircraft
since the bigger engines make significant noise in the lower frequencies.
For multi-engine aircraft, the headset is a dream.

I just noticed Telex advertising a Pro-Air 4000, an ANR headset that
looks like it's based on the 3000 headset for $499.  I'd like to hear
a review if anyone is adventurous enough to buy one.  The prices are
finally starting to come down.

A friend who owns the Bose (and his own airplane) loves his too.  I have
no info on the DC-NC.

Kerry
From: tks@kestrel.nwc.navy.mil (Tom Serkowski)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: What is the dif. between the FLIGHTMATE and 55 AVD?
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:13:15 GMT
Organization: Naval Weapons Center, China Lake, CA

The flightmate DOESN'T HAVE A COMM PORT :-(
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay)
Subject: Re: What is the dif. between the FLIGHTMATE and 55 AVD?
Organization: NASA-Ames Biocomputation Center
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:59:03 GMT

In article <Bw0tA3.JGs@avalon.nwc.navy.mil>, tks@kestrel.nwc.navy.mil (Tom Serkowski) writes:
|> The flightmate DOESN'T HAVE A COMM PORT :-(

And this is crutial if you want to hook the GPS up to a moving map.

David		doshay@soma.arc.nasa.gov

The thought police insist I tell you:
my thoughts, not NASA's
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products,rec.aviation.student
From: patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie)
Subject: Re: Foster Phone Number
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:33:11 GMT

Does anyone have the phone number of Foster Airdata Systems handy? I
need to call them and left the number at home.

patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
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From: chalekcl@crd.ge.com (Carl Chalek)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
Subject: Re: Looking for wrist-watch with altitude meter
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:15:02 GMT
Reply-To: chalekcl@crd.ge.com
Organization: GE Corporate R&D

Casio makes a couple of models with altimeter/barometer functions.  One has both
altitude and temperature (temperature is marginally useful unless you take it
off).  The altimeter function is accurate to 20 meters or 50 feet, I think.

Prices are between $90US and $140US.

Carl Chalek
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: geoff@peck.com (Geoff Peck)
Subject: CHARTER: rec.aviation.products
Followup-To: rec.aviation.misc
Reply-To: geoff@peck.com
Organization: Geoffrey G. Peck, Consultant, San Jose CA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:23:24 GMT

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Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products,rec.aviation.student
From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Subject: Re: Handheld GPS 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:22:54 GMT

From article <1992Oct14.145105.13419@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com>, by kelley@chico (Sean Kelley):
> GARMIN INTERNATIONAL provides several flavors of hand-held and mounted
> GPS receivers.  I believe the GPS 100 saw service with the British RAF
> TORNADO squadrons and with the FRENCH JAGUAR squadrons in the Gulf War.

I wonder if they let you take along and use a GPS during the FAA checkride?
(what for?  I don't have a clue) 
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.products
From: doshay@ursa.arc.nasa.gov (David Doshay)
Subject: Re: CHEAP INTERCOMS
Organization: NASA-Ames Biocomputation Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:51:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.004752.15280@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:
|> BUT GOOD ONES..
|> 
|> anyone?


I had an older Softcom, and it was OK, but the battery went out abruptly and
with MUCH loud noise through the headsets. I sold it in a set with 2 Softcom
headsets when I got Peltor 7004 headsets.

Now I have a Pilot PA 400-3BL. It has many handy fearures and works fine, but
the squelch is hard to adjust when the engine is at idle or taxi settings. No
problems in flight. I like that it has Pilot isolate (I have a baby) and that
it takes 2 9V batteries set up so that it will work on 1 but time between changes
is longer when using 2. The night light is nice too, if you do not leave it on 
when you do not want to.

David		doshay@soma.arc.nasa.gov

The thought police insist I tell you:
my thoughts, not NASA's
From: glennh@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Glenn Hetchler)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:46:32 GMT
Subject: Re: stuffed head
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation

I don't remember seeing this discussed on the net before, so I will pass
along some advise which has helped me tremendously.

Living here in Sonoma County, CA, where EVERYTHING grows, it didn't take
long after moving here before I ended up in the alergist's office.  I tested
positive for most everything.  One of the things he strongly recomemded was
regular nasal rinse with salt water.  I didn't get too excited about the idea
(its not something you would do for fun, but its not much worse than flossing
your teeth, once you get used to it) until my allergies started affecting
when I could fly!  And then sinus infections would really do me in.  Every-
thing which has been said about there being no such thing as a little cold
when you go to altitude (even a few thousand feet) is TRUE!  I ended up 
majorly messed up for 20 days after going to 5K after I thought I was over
a cold.

Anayway, the nasal rinses have been a tremendous help.  And its a remedy that
even your AME can love.  If you don't drown while doing it, you won't have
any side effects.  Although some people can do it with a squirt bottle, one
device which has made my life much more pleasant is the nasal irrigator
attachment for the Water Pik.  It costs $20 and is manufactured by Ethicare,
P.O. Box 5027, Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33310.  Phone (305) 742-3599.  Our
local pharmacy sells them over the counter. (be gentle with the connection
end; I haven't had any problem because I leave it in the WP all the time).

Anyone who has questions on how to do this, or my experiences with it, feel
free to drop me e-mail.  It has had a significant affect on my quality of
life, and especially my ability to fly during certain times of the year.

-Glenn "achoo!" Hetchler
From: billa@fc.hp.com (Bill Arnold)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: maule M8
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:03:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

Bob Blean (blean@rwb.esd.sgi.com) wrote:

: I have seen references to a Maule M8.  Can someone please tell me howw
: it differs from the other Maules?

: -- Bob
: ("Our life is frittered away by detail.  Simplify, simplify."  H.D. Thoreau)

I don't specifically know about the M8.  I did think about buying a Maule
at one point, so it subcribed to their newsletter for a year.  Wow!

Maules come in myriad models and "flavors".  M4, M5, M6, ..., M8.
Basically, the Model designation is cronological (i.e. the M4 preceded
the M5 and so on).  Also, the model can designate a flavor (i.e.
an airplane with thus and such engine and this and that wings).

If you are interested in a Maule, I really recommend getting their
newsletter (you can get it from the factory).  My opinion ended up
being that the Maule is a fine airplane in terms of utility, but not
so good in terms of finish, insurance, and maintenance.

Bill Arnold   billa@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.aviation,rec.aviation.simulators
From: kerry@Ingres.COM (Kerry Kurasaki)
Subject: A320 Simulator
Reply-To: kerry@Ingres.COM (Kerry Kurasaki)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:10:56 GMT

Is this the program you play for awhile and 30 minutes into the game
it displays on the HUD:

		SIGSEGV?
From: myshatyn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Myshatyn)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:28:42 GMT
Subject: Re: GTE CONTEL DUAT new features
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.aviation

Marty Anilane writes:

> The GE software's forte, and why it has been chosen, is its ability 
> to receive and display graphics over 1200 and 2400 baud connections,
> which is the user community which was specified by the FAA DUAT contract.
> (Currently, more then 50% of the pilots log in at 1200 baud.) At a 
> plain 2400 baud connection most Golden Eagle Maps/Products can be received,
> displayed and stored under 30 seconds. (This does not include satellite
> images which are closer to 2 minutes). For a pilot who needs several maps
> during a briefing, this can be a considable time and cost savings. (Cost
> savings are realized through decreased connect time charges.)
> 

> >Also, how about a mailbox inside of DUAT for customer comments?
> This is scheduled for implementation later in the year.

First of all, I want to thank you for being a  resource  on the net for us.
I've  learned a few things since you joined us and I appreciate  it.  Maybe
this is a second  vote for a mailbox  or message  capability.  I have found
myself  wanting to send a message  or  question  to  someone  but  dreading
calling the 1-800 help number.

Second,  for the  record,  I prefer  Contel  over DTC.  The point  that you
mention about the  price-performance  (download time) of the graphics was a
major swing factor in my preference for Contel.

> >-Ron "Your lack of input has caused a timeout" Natalie

Along this line, I would like to see a more lenient timeout.  Sometimes I'm
actually  trying to read the  briefing  and  interpret  it online  not just
download it.  The (very short)  timeout  behavior is a pain.  Thanks  again
for your help and for listening.

--
 Mike Myshatyn    Bonanza N4896J           Hewlett-Packard Company
   ASEL/AMEL COMM, INSTR, CFI-IA           User-Interface Technology Division
 ...!hplabs!fc.hp.com!myshatyn             Ft. Collins, CO  80525
 or ... myshatyn@fc.hp.com                 (303) 229-4067
From: spenny@sw.stratus.com (Steve Pennypacker)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: Fall foliage, Mt Snow, condo rental
Keywords: faliage, condo rental
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:51:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct7.164747.3365@Princeton.EDU>, awtron@strawber.princeton.edu (Andrew Tron) writes:

> Incidentally, is there a sort of "Fall Colours hotline" that one can
> call to find out where and when the best viewing is?  My instructor
> believes this may be the case, but she isn't certain.

According to the newspaper, these are the numbers to call for New England
states:

	VT:  (802) 828-3239
	MA:  (800) 343-9072  out of state
	     (800) 632-8038  in state
	ME:  (800) 533-9595
	NH:  (800) 258-3608
	     (800) 262-6660
	CT:  (800) 282-6863
	RI:  (800) 556-2484  out of state only

-- 
     Steve Pennypacker		     PP-ASEL

     spenny@wiley.ts.stratus.com     Stephen_Pennypacker@vos.stratus.com
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp)
Subject: Re: El Al Boeing crash on Amsterdam
Organization: LA&W RR
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 18:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.215854.17898@donau.et.tudelft.nl> knop@dutecad.et.tudelft.nl (Peter Knoppers) writes:

>Other remarks:
>
>The aircraft was built in 1979 and has experienced some engine
>related problems before. A few months ago a very similar
>airplane with the same type of engines crashed, also after
>losing both right-wing engines. The loss of two engines on
>one side of the plane is apparently not trained in simulators.
>Either it is considered too unlikely to happen, or it is
>expected to be impossible to control the airplane under those
>conditions.

In the newspaper account I read, it was stated that a Boeing spokesman
said that there was no history of problems with this particular
aircraft, and that it was designed to be flyable on ONE engine.
From: Janet_Hutchinson@mindlink.bc.ca (Janet Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: Medical exam (was Re: Beginner needs advice...badly!)
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:46:02 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Hi,

> Bruce Watson writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <4320@svin09.info.win.tue.nl>
> Posted: 12 Oct 92 09:25:10 GMT
>
> Org.  : Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
>
> In article <2510511@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> bills@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill
> Standerfer) writes:
> >In article <122140255@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, jle@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jer/
> Eberhard)
> >writes:
> >>>  I've never heard of anyone doing it in 40 hours.
> >>
> >>Now you have!  Private Pilot, ASEL, Part 141, 37.2 hours.
> >>
> >
> >Ditto!  36.5 hours.
> >
> >Bill Standerfer, Eternal Student
>
> While we're on that:
>    Canadian Private (back in '85): 35.0 hours, 4 weeks
>
> Bruce.
>
> --
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> _
> Bruce Watson                     || favourite oxymoron: "-- rather, it
> simply
> watson@win.tue.nl                ||   complicates our implementation." from
> watson@stack.urc.tue.nl          || C++ Primer, 2nd ed. (p.501) by S.
> Lippman

This is Susan Hutchinson, I am having alot of problems sending messages....
This is my second time using the Modem... Anyway I thought I would send some
information your way on Vancouver.  I asked a friend about gas prices and he
said: Boundary Bay .75 per liter, Pit Meadows $.74, and Chilliwack $.72.
Please note, Chilliwack is quite far driving from Vancouver ie: 1.5 hrs.
Flying- no problem. Not worth the extra couple of cents.  As I do or
restaurant.  Live irish music.  There are also alot of clubs??  Anyone in
town will be able to direct you to them.  Vancouver International has a
landing fee of $25. Bye.
s
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: nunn@infonode.ingr.com (Gary Nunn)
Subject: Rescue Questions
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:19:14 GMT


I have some general questions regarding aviation and rescue. 
I belong to a county fire and rescue department, I generally read this
group, but am not a pilot.

We had a call last night to search for a possible downed plane. The
details were very sketchy, but this is what happened. A call aparently
was made on a CB channel 19. The pilot was having problems and was going
to try to land in a field "somewhere east of Pulaski" ( which is our county
seat, and has a small airport). He also said he did'nt think he was going
to make it. They also said he sound very afraid (naturally).

Now, this area (southern tennessee) is very hilly and has hundreds of miles
of very rural roads. We all went out in our personal vehicles and searched
the eastern section of the county, which has over 600 square miles. We 
communicated via CB radio, and try to make contact with the pilot. We
asked the pilot to "key" his mike if he was hurt and unable to speak.
We received what we assumed was his key and try to pin-point his location
via meter strength. We narrowed it down to an area that had few roads
and many hills, but finally were unable to receive anything further.

The Nashville airport had no indications of a downed plane, and had
not received any distress calls.  

Questions:

1. Do small planes have CB radios as a general rule?

2. Do all or most small planes have aviation type radios?

3. What would you do in a case like this? ( as far as to search or not)

The general feeling after a few hours search was that it was probably
a hoax, but with no one being pilots, and having very little knowledge
of general aviation, we were at a loss. I finally gave in and went home 
(in time to get a little sleep before work). I have not talked with any
squad members this morning to find out anything. BTW, I first heard about
this on the scanner, and it was the highway patrol that were talking. It
was not an official squad search, because it was never confirmed and no
one to my knowledge was officially notified.

Thanks,
Gary Nunn...Non Aviator (But good Rescuer)

-- 
  *   Gary Nunn                *                 
  *   Intergraph Corporation   *  nunn@gnunn.b30.ingr.com  
  *   Huntsville, Alabama      *
From: dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) 
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: Any comments about th
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:47:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) 

BC> .The news today said that Boeing was prompted to issue the Fuse Bolt
  > .inspection because of a very accident with an Air China(?) 747
  > .freighter in Korea(?). Engines #'s 3 & 4 both broke off during climb out.

Boeing had a bulletin out before the accident.  The fuse bolts were
suspected, but (as yet) not confirmed as a cause of the (JAL?) freighter
accident.  There's an AD out now for the inspection.

        D/

 * OLX 2.2 * Bring back A-N airways!!    Dick.Zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com