From: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: statistics...
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:30:12 GMT
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In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 17 Aug 92 10:46:33 GMT


[ THIS IS ALMOST ALL IN ENGLISH. It would be nice if you had put
[ENGLISH] or something in the SUBJECT line, then I don't have to warn
people this way.]

Hi.

Did you somehow miss Mr. Kuno's recent article in fj.news.group?

	From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
	Newsgroups: fj.news.group
	Subject: 2nd CFV fj.life.in-japan [English+Japanese]
	Message-ID: <1992Aug14.132130.20952@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	Date: 14 Aug 92 13:21:16 GMT
	Sender: news@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp
	Hi, ...
	$@5WLn$G$9!"(J

	NOTE!  THIS IS NOT A VOTE YET!
	$@Cm0U(J!  $@$^$@EjI<3+;O$G$O$"$j$^$;$s(J!

	Here I declare 2nd CFV for fj.life.in-japan.
	$@$3$3$K(Jfj.life.in-japan$@$N(J2$@2sL\$N(JCFV$@$r$5$;$FD:$-$^$9!#(J

	[ omission]

So Vote may be coming. 

Regarding other postings concerning the proposed NG, I haven't got the
time to re-read through all the discussion written in Japanese in
fj.news.group, and explain them to you.

However, one important topic for the operation of proposed NG needs
mentioning.

I think there was a poster or two (or maybe more) who put much
emphasis on cross-posting to appropriate fj newsgroups if the topic
will warrant such cross-posting. Namely some people expressed their
desire to see crossposting be done to other appropriate fj.news.group
to promote the joint-participation of Japanese news users of the
`rest' of fj and the users of proposed NG.

I would think the chance of having an article written in, say, English
read in the new proposed NG is higher than in other fj newsgroups in
general (from what I observed), but the cross posting wouldn't hurt
and will have a chance of bringing in more Japanese readers in
discussion. This is true: you can look at the food and other
discussions in fj.misc in the last several weeks.

But, you may ask, which fj newsgroup to cross-post?

Ideally, you can find appropriate fj news group to crosspost this way.
Usually, your `newsgroups' file under /usr/lib/news (or apprpropriate
NEWS directory, ask your local news admin) would contain one liner
about each newsgroup inncluding fj newsgroups.  These brief one line
summaries should help.

However, in reality, I have noticed after perusing them, that some of
them are obscure enough to be utterly unusable, and some of them
contained possible misspellings or inappropriate phrases of English
language. Also, unless the news administrator at your site is an
eager-beaver type person :-), the newsgroups file may not have been
updated every time new group is created. I found out this hard way. I
AM the news admin at local site :-(

So I think we need a fuller description of each news group to be
usable and to be easily usable by the majority of users of the
proposed newsgroup.  I posted a followup article stating that I will
be happy to translate the fuller Japanese description or charter into
English (sorry to people whose mother tongue is something else) and
repost it to the proposed NG at appropriate intervals if someone who
keeps record of such description of each created NG can send them to
me.

I have not the time to re-read other topics discussed during Summer,
sorry.
Newsgroups: fj.news.group