From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Re: Some problems...
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 08:43:27 GMT

Eric Hedlund was banging on the keyboard of a MSUS machine:

[... :%s/^>//|!!fmt|:.,$s/^/>/  [ARTICLE LINES TRIMMED DOWN] ...]

First of, you did not say what client you are using. This can confuse
the matter a bit. There are several clients around, check out the FAQ
for this newsgroup. 
To get the version of your client, the command /version may or may
not give you the right information. You may also want to do 
/CTCP <yournickname> version . This may or may not work depending on
your client.
The /version command should at least give you some indication about
your server' version. 

>First of all, I'm having trouble leaving channels.  For some reason,
>the /part command dumps me from the IRC system, not just the channel.
>What am I supposed to do?

Try /leave #channelname . This should work with most clients. If this 
fail, try /quote part #channelname . This may or may not work depending
on your client.  You may also want to ask the clientmaintainer (if such 
exsist) about your client.

If /part #channelname dumps you completely off IRC, then your client is 
broken. Simple as that. OR either your clientmaintainer is on the wrong 
popato field (as we say over here).

>Also, I'm having the worst time connecting to other servers.  IRC is
>supposed to let me talk to people around the world, and yet many
>servers don't seem to want to let me in.  Am I to understand that the
>list of channels that I get from my server are international, and that
>all servers share that list?  Like I said, I'm new to the system, and
>am not familiar with the layout.

You should not need to connect to other servers. To put it simple:
							   ^^^^^^
  - All server share all information about all users.
  - All server share all information about all channels.

This aporach makes it possible without much hassle to communicate with
all users on the IRC net. (Theoreticaly thatis).

>One thing suprised me to no end.  For some reason, I attempted to
>access a server that I've forgotten, and I got this message:
>
>*** You're banned from IRC... No chance!  *** Server error message:
>Closing Link: Morentis[TIGGER.StCloud.MSUS.EDU] Morentis (K-lined)

This can happen for several reasons. But to avoid it, do not change 
servers. There is no need for that.

Why this happened I can't answer, you must talk to the person in charge
for the server you tried to join. Maybe this person don't know how to
use the so called I:-lines, and is using K:-lines instead.
I:- lines tell the server what clients can connect to this server.
Some server are world-open, thatis open to everyone. Other servers again
is only open to a limited area.
K:-lines are a whole different matter. They should only be used to get
rid of anoying users on a local server. Or to limit client connections 
from certain hosts during the daytime. K:-lines is not a substituion for
I:-lines.

To get more information, you are welcome to join #EU-Opers on IRC. 
BEWARE: Most of us are only awake DAYTIME european time. It may takes 
a bit of time before we answer a question so be patient. Another good (??)
place is #irchelp. From time to time there is a human there to answer your
questions.
You may also join #twilight_zone, but mostly the inhab. of #T_Z is alseep,
even daytime (whatever that may be :-). Either that or doing something 
else.

Sorry for the bad english, but I'm just a utterly stupid Norwegian who don't
know a damn thing.

\Ruben.


-- 
        Ove Ruben R Olsen a Gnarfer and VI user. EMAIL: ruben@uib.no. 
     Maintaining the EX/VI-archive and a couple of the Comp.Editors FAQs.
    People that are ignorant tend to live a frustrated life, at least when 
     it comes to editing - But I do belive this is a general rule in life