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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:08:13 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

In article <JET.92Aug18115944@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>Where are all the yuppie/granola grocery stores I heard so much about
>before I moved out here?  I live in MV (near rengstroff and central)
>and all I've seen are Safeway's (ick) and Lucky's (double ick, but
>they have good prices on rene junot).  I've been to Country Sun (?) on
>California in Palo Alto, and they're ok...
>
>I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm looking for except to say
>that in Houston I liked going to Auchan's (french hypermarket), Rice
>Epicurian, and Whole Foods (expensive and anti-union, but good
>produce).
>
Petrini's is supposed to be what you're looking for, but
there's a Whole Foods in San Jose on Bascom & Hamilton
also, Lunardi's in San Jose, and, of course, Cosintino's in
San Jose on Bascom off Union (original one) and one on Homestead
at Lawrence Expressway in Santa Clara

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From: dan@BofA.com (Dan Brockman)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Keywords: steak south bay
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:35:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.193342.29375@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.014847.23802@leland.Stanford.EDU> dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen) writes:
>>
>>Has anybody tried Scott's Grill on Bayfront near Embarcadero,
>>right across from Ming's Villa? My office is right near there
>>and I've been curious about this place since we moved here.
>
>sorry, I've only been to their place onVan Ness & Scott in SF -
>good seafood.....


You were lost my friend, Van Ness & Scott are parallel.
I think you mean Scott & Lombard.  At that location there
is a seafood restaurant named Scotts, but is that the 
same as "Scott's Grill"?  I don't know.  There is another
Scotts seafood restaurant at Embarcadero 3 in SF, and it
is the same outfit as that on Lombard St and its a pretty
good place to eat.

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From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Hunan Home's (was Re: pomp w/o the circumstance)
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:14:56 GMT

In article <l96ctfINNcgq@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> carole@peregrine.Sun.COM (Carole Parker) writes:
>
>Yep.  I had heard that Hunan Home had really *hot* chinese food as
>rated in ba.food.  Hot as in spicy.  Hot as in burn your mouth and
>wish you had a fire extinguisher.
>
>My response: NOT!

Which goes to show you can't believe everything you hear, not that
it's a lousy restaurant.

>My companion and I went to Hunan Home on a week night, and the food
>was deplorably tame.  Someone has/had a low threshold to spice because
>I certainly didn't taste it.
>
>The food wasn't *bad*, but it wasn't great.  The place is more
>atmosphere and reputation than food, I think.

It's "Hunan Home's", by the way.  I've never been disappointed by a
dish there.  The Special Pan Fried Noodle is my favorite:  generously
sprinkled with chicken, scallops, squid, mushrooms, carrots and (what I
think is) bok choy, the delicately-flavored creamy sauce on a bed of
fried-until-just-crispy soft noodles is to die for.  It is not
incendiary.  It doesn't need to be.

The Dry Cooked String Beans and the spareribs are other favorites,
but not particularly hot, either.

My only complaint with Hunan Home's is a generic gripe with Chinese
restaurants in general:  they treat non-Asians differently than Asians.
I've never had to demand chopsticks there, as I have in other Chinese
restaurants, but I always have to ask for a rice bowl, which you get
more-or-less automatically if you look Asian.

Heat-seekers might do better at Szechuan Gardens on Castro Street, or
Sawaddee on Wolfe near HP Cupertino.  Sawaddee is particularly adept
at masking ho-hum food with large doses of gratuitous flame.

Charleen

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From: lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:50:47 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug18.233115.12044@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60a-zh@volga.Berkeley.EDU (A L L E N --LabA) writes:
>
>>Unfortunately the best supermarket in the world is a tad far from
>>you. It's Andronico's, in Berkeley. Check it out if you're in the
>>East Bay (best location: Shattuck near Cedar).
>>
>
>Andronico's is awfuly expensive... but it does beat Safeway...
>But that's not saying much...
>

Andronico's is pretty good, but not materially different from
Draeger's in Menlo.  The produce prices are outrageous.
There is one in San Francisco as well at 9th and Irving (formerly Park
and Shop).
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c/o Amdahl Corporation            (408)737-5449
1250 E. Arques Ave.  M/S 338
P.O. Box 3470
Sunnyvale, CA  94088-3470
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Wine
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:56:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.

In article <1992Aug18.151411.25800@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> amdease@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Ann Dease) writes:
>
>I'd like to get recommendations/comments on any wine bars in the
>San Francisco & East Bay area.  Also, would like to know of any
>wine appreciation classes in the area.
>
>Thanks.

have you also asked this of the people in  rec.food.drink  they
may have some good answers to your question(s)

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From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:59:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames


Where are all the yuppie/granola grocery stores I heard so much about
before I moved out here?  I live in MV (near rengstroff and central)
and all I've seen are Safeway's (ick) and Lucky's (double ick, but
they have good prices on rene junot).  I've been to Country Sun (?) on
California in Palo Alto, and they're ok...

I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm looking for except to say
that in Houston I liked going to Auchan's (french hypermarket), Rice
Epicurian, and Whole Foods (expensive and anti-union, but good
produce).

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From: maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov
Subject: Req: Young's Cafe (Chinese)
Organization: What does *this* button do!?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:33:34 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalb.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Years ago I used to visit a little Chinese restaurant called Young's Cafe.
It was almost esclusively patronized by Chinatown locals, and the anglo menu
was a single mimeographed (!) sheet of paper. 

I was frequently the only Chinese-impaired customer. They served up the best
hot-and-sour soup that I've ever tasted. And they didn't have the execrable
phrase "Authentic Chinese Food" anywhere.

I wish I could remember the location... I just remember that it was a corner.

Anyone know if it's still there?

regards.max
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Wine
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:50:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug18.151411.25800@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> amdease@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Ann Dease) writes:
>
>I'd like to get recommendations/comments on any wine bars in the
>San Francisco & East Bay area.  Also, would like to know of any
>wine appreciation classes in the area.

Mirassou has a "wine club", as I am sure do other wineries in the bay area.
Mirassou is in South San Jose.  Their champagne cellars are up above Los
Gatos and their tasting room is definately worth a visit.  Mirassou also
does catered dinners featuring continental cuisine and several different
glasses to go with the courses.  I've never done one of these but they
sure look like be enjoyable.
deli


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From: yoda@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Sean Yoda Rouse)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Discovery: Tambo Cafe in Berkeley
Summary: Good and Cheap
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:43:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <920810.929358656@derrida.postmodern.com> mcb@derrida.postmodern.com (Utah Saints rule!) writes:
>I am probably going to get slaughtered for revealing somebody's secret
>restaurant hideaway, but my discovery of this place was just too
>fortuitous to ignore.

I've been visiting this place for several years, and I just never got
'round to posting about it.

>The place is the Tambo Cafe, on the east side of Shattuck Avenue in
>Berkeley, a few doors north of University Ave, across the street from
>Spats or Thai BBQ House.   It's a tiny restaurant, with 8 small tables.

>And then I passed a storefront from which the most amazing aroma of
>herbs and spices emanated -- cilantro, cumin, fenugreek, mixed with
>cooking meats and vegetables.  Outside was a signboard offering a
>choice of 7 or 8 dinner specials and a regular menu of appetizers and
>tapas.  Tambo Cafe styles itself "Peruvian and Andean Cuisine".

It was this sign and smell that caught the eyes and noses of friend
and I who were looking for a place to have lunch.  The last time I
had eaten any Peruvian food was when I was in Lima, Peru when I was
four years old.  I remember eating a dish of marinated beef hearts
which I think I liked.  I also remembered drinking something called
Inca Cola.  Upon these memories, I suggested we entered.

Since this was lunch, we had the tapas.  You can order tapas
with or without a salad.  I was going to order the anticuchos
I remembered as a little kid, but they were out, so I had the
papas rellenas that the original poster had.  My friend had the
empanadas which is similar to the papas rellenas.  Both were
excellent.

I can not comment on the dinners, as I have found one tapas plate
very satisfying for dinner.  If I can remember though, the dinners
range from $9-$13.

In addition to the anticuchos, papas rellenas, empanadas, and
casuas, they also serve tamales and other dishes.  The tapas
average about $2.50 ala cart/$4.50 with salad.

>So by this time I was stuffed (I had a glass of a Peruvian fruit
>drink called chicha as well), and the bill was something like $9. Wow.
>Credit cards accepted.  Beer available, possibly wine.  Specialty
>drinks are chicha and something called Inca Kola in a can.  MCB says
>check it out.

I agree.  One tapas plate (w/ salad) plus a drink tax and tip comes
out to $6-$7.  I can't think of any better cheaper sit down dinners
I've had in the bay area.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: root@ictv.com (Operator)
Subject: Re: Indian or Meat-less (HELP!)
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:51:38 GMT

RE: Vegetarian Indian Chow

Try Nataraja on University Ave. in Palo Alto. Scrummy veggie food, and their buffet (when operative) is velly delicious.

          amacker

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: schutt@netcom.com (David G. Schutt)
Subject: Re: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:50:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: steak south bay

Add the Bold Knight for a good steak in the South Bay (although not
exactly between Palo Alto and Santa Clara.) We were there last night
and these steaks were good and inexpensive:
   New York $11.95
   'Pride of the Cattleman' (sirloin) $12.95 or $13.95 can't remember

Bold Knight
1600 Monterey Road
(408) 293-7700
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Scones
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:17:28 GMT
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

Ah, but the real question is: does "scone" rhyme with "cone" or "con"?

Be sure to suffix your answer with "of course".

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From: ghosty@terapin.com (Noah Hanna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Great coupon book!
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:26:24 PST
Organization: BBS

When ever my fmaily want to try someplace new around here when we're out and
about we use the Entertainment '92 book. Does any one else have one of these?
It offers but one get one free on great places and half off on hotels and weve
been to some great places to eat with them. We got ours free at a car
dealership, but its selling for like $20. Anyone have one and and know the best
place to go out of there? it expires in NOvember:(. If anyone's interested in
the address Ill post it...

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From: js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Why do they age beef?
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:31:21 GMT

Why age beef?  Very simple, aged beef is more tender and
tastes better.  Do you think restaurants would devote the
time, space and labor required for this process if it didn't
improve the product?

I can confirm the somewhat unaesthetic description of the
meat aging process.  My father worked as a butcher during
the 1940s, and he said essentially the same thing, although
he also mentioned something about scraping off a layer of
maggots.

John Shipman (john@nmt.edu)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Where to eat is South San Francisco?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:51:49 GMT


	A friend and I are going to be meeting in South San Francisco on Wed
evening, and would like suggestions for a place to eat.  We're going to be 
going to the Century Plaza Theatres, so some place nearby might be nice, but
it's not essential.  
	We're looking for some place that's casual, relatively inexpensive,
and perhaps ethnic in some way shape, or form--   (Italian, Middle-eastern,
Mexican, Vietnamese, whatever).

	Please respond with e-mail, unless you think this might be of more
general interest to the readers of ba.food.

	Your answers appreciated,

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Wine
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:08:03 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug18.221517.18224@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:
|In article <14119@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|>In article <1992Aug18.151411.25800@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> amdease@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Ann Dease) writes:
|>>
|>>I'd like to get recommendations/comments on any wine bars in the
|>>San Francisco & East Bay area.  Also, would like to know of any
|>>wine appreciation classes in the area.
|>
|>Mirassou has a "wine club", as I am sure do other wineries in the bay area.
|>Mirassou is in South San Jose.  Their champagne cellars are up above Los
|>Gatos and their tasting room is definately worth a visit.  
|
|wait a minute - the old Paul Masson's wine cellars were in Saratoga and
|the old mountain winery was in the hills above saratoga (it still
|does have a great view of the city and wine dinners and shows)
|but it is not Mirassou
 
We're talking about different wineries.  The Mirassou Champagne Cellars
are located above *Los Gatos* at the old Novitiate Winery.  The Novitiate
is that large building up in the hills (east of highway 17) that can be
seen from almost anyplace in the South Bay.

|Mirassou, on the other hand does have a wine tasting club, as
|does Lohr's, Bargetto, etc and they do have wonderful wine
|brunches & dinners all usually with a pre-tasting (& tour) of
|about 5 wines followed by a full course dinner, etc with 
|accompanying wines - all very well prepared and served - the
|wines are poured by the glassful at the dinner table and 
|an explanation of it on request - the foods are delicious -
|I put a comment on this in rec.food.drink a few weeks back -
|Mirassou is in the South San Jose area on Aborn road off
|Capitol Expressway

You really should try the tasting room at the old Novitiate site.  The
setting is much more peaceful and I've heard that the tour is quite good.
They have the wine/dinner parties at both locations.  I'd prefer the
Los Gatos location. 

Congress Springs also has a "tasting club".  There are quite a few 
wineries in the Gilroy area as well and I'd imagine that a few of them
might have a club as well.  Just before I left HP our department went
on a Morgan Hill/Gilroy area wine tasting tour in lieu of the traditional
"summer party at the park".  They chartered a bus and we hit three wineries.
Kirigin Cellars was the consensus favorite.  They were serving an 11 year
old Cabernet that they were also selling for $8 a bottle!  It was outstanding.

This probably doesn't belong in ba.food.
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| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: mlw@cisco.com (Monica Waldman)
Subject: Re: Add to late-night Peninsula eateries
Organization: fetus on a stick
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:36:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.143500.16596@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>BTW, you can now get frozen Jose's empanadas at the Milk Pail Dairy in
>Mountain View.  I'm gonna miss the Milk Pail when I move to Sunnyvale <sob>.

The fresh ones are mediocre, are the frozen ones any better?

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From: mdk1@netcom.com (Mark Kaplanoff)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Czech restaurant near Pt. Reyes
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:15:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <mcnally.714073277@wsl.pa.dec.com> mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally) writes:
>mdk1@netcom.com (Mark Kaplanoff) writes:
>>The restaurant you're thinking of is probably Manka's in Inverness, the one
>>town on the Point Reyes Peninsula.  
>
>The people of Bolinas will I'm sure thank you for furthering their effort
>to disappear from the planet.
>
>
>
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Indeed, you are correct!  But, of course, the good people of
Bolinas are always removing the sign to their town on Highway One!
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Isobune & Sushi A
Keywords: sushi
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:32:38 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

jeremy@Apple.COM (Jeremy j. b. nguyen) writes:

>We also recently went to Isobune in Nihonmachi (SF).  The quality was really
>exceptional, especially for a local boat-place.  

Isobune was OK when I went there 5 years ago. But in Japantown in SF, 
my vote for the freshest sushi goes to Sushi A.

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:21:38 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <JET.92Aug18115944@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>Where are all the yuppie/granola grocery stores I heard so much about
>before I moved out here?  I live in MV (near rengstroff and central)

They're down here in around Los Gatos.

Cosentino's is actually in Campbell (Union and Bascom).  I'll go in there
a couple times a year to get ingredients for that special dinner for a friend.

There is also a Petrini's in Los Gatos.

Another pretty good grocery store is Lunardi's. (Blossom Hill & Los Gatos Blvd)

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| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
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