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From: letmein@next11csc.wam.umd.edu (Rich Samuel Biscoe)
Subject: Re: Virgina
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:30:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.014452.15338@Virginia.EDU> mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("")  
writes:
> 	No, I swear, Kristen, (and I was an ass to blame it on
> you in any way, as you were five too at the time) but we are not
> allowed to play at your school.  We'd like to, but they just
> won't let us. 
> 
> 	You see, it all started back in 1977. Maryland's Governor
> Mandel had been convicted of accepting bribes.  He was put in
> jail.  The acting governor was Blair Lee III.  We play at your
> school... and formed a guilotine:
> Ann:  We'd like to welcome today's distinguished guest
> conductor, MAryland's own Governor Mandel!!
> 	(Band member wearing prison stripes and carrying a ball
> and chain approaches podium, but is escorted away by a cop)
> Ann:	Uh... sorry, we'd like to introduce today's
> distinguished, ACTING guest conductor, Blair Lee III.
> 
> 
> 	Blair Lee III, in typical frantic politico scrambling
> (notice clever usage of that word -what a cunning linguist I
> am) for brownie points demands an appology from our school.
> Maryland's athletic dept. calls foul.  A "review" (read
> "censorship" ) board is appointed that exists to this day.  And
> we are not allowed in Maryland again!  
> 
> 	But your fans liked us... they really liked us...
> 
> 	We got a very R A W deal, all because some people
> couldn't take what was actually a pretty good joke.
> 
> 	Sorry about the anal rot comment, that was buttified.
> 	Standing O a FSU, huh?  That's impressive considering
> the caliber band they are used to.  Did you meet any of the
> Chiefs.  They came to our Stadium, and were such good fellows.
> 
> 	See you next year, look for the trombone coated with Chinese
> characters (Chongbone)
> 	
> 	Mick Stone, mss2e@Virginia.EDU


Nice story and all!!!  However, I think the straw that broke the camel's  
back is when your band decided to come to our stadium and urinate on  
thefield in the middle of a half-time show.  Somehow, I think it's going  
to take a while to live that one down!!!!  Respectively,

							Rich Biscoe

P.S. - Say 'HI' to Matt Fader for me, thanx!!!
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From: dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly)
Subject: Re: Marching Style Survey
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:19:00 GMT

timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro) writes:
>A lot of folks have described their band's marching (or non-marching) 
>style in great detail.  I'd like to take a survey and have you all 
>describe your band's "style" in one sentence or less.
>For example,
>Drum Corps (Can this be subdivided in any way?)
>High Step (i.e. Traditional Big Ten style)
>Scatter
>Funky (i.e. Florida A&M (?))
>Hybrid/Mutant (i.e. High Step Pre-Game, Drum Corps Halftime)
>Park and Blow
>Stands Only (Pep Band)
>I'm sure we can think of many more!
>Either post or e-mail your responses.  I'll post a summary to
>the net.
>Thanks!

Don't forget the "Cobs up our asses" Wisconsin style of marching...
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From: mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("seilF eht fo droL, bubezleeB")
Subject: Re: Reading music off of flip folders....
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:39:33 GMT



Let's talk about something someone in the stands could possibly
give a damn about.  All I could even imagine them caring about is: does it sound good -is it a good tune.  That's
it.  Fine.  Bottom line.

	Oh, you memorized your music?!  You must be soooo dedicated.  
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From: csmith@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith)
Subject: Re: Greetings!
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:33:14 GMT

In article <Bz691J.JuH@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> vaurenta@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Chase) writes:
>    To all on r.a.m.m:
>
>   Hello! I am Jonathan Chase, at Purdue University, and a former member
>   of the Purdue All American Marching Band, the best band in the world.
>   :-) Saxaphone player also.
Ohhh! The famous Purdue Marching Amoeba????? The band so large that when
they get done entering the field, you can't see the field anymore? Who do
the famous mytosis drill? Who have marchers who's sole purpose is to set
off smoke bombs?

Is Barry Kopetz (former drum major for TBDBITL) directing there?

>    For the love of Marching, I am glad this newsgroup is up! 
>    Well, C-ya all, and remember: Start on the LEFT foot!
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"And as they passed through the desert, God did deliver unto them manna and much beer, so that they may party in those fourty years."
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Craig Edward Smith (csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu)


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From: stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford)
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley) Band)
Organization: none whatsoever
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 01:39:53 GMT

In article <bla bla bla> jamestho@aludra.usc.edu (James Thomas) writes:

[stuff omitted]

>For those asking about section rivalries, this is how our band
>getsaround most of them( by beating other bands into dust
>pschycologicaly).
>                                        James the Horn

At first I was going to let this article go, but then it later
occurred to me what was troubling about this post.  "Beating other
bands into dust pschycologicaly [sic]"?  Has it ever occurred to you
why EVERY band in the country who has EVER come into contact with you has
such negative things to say?  It would seem that you don't don't view
the field as a stage or place to entertain people, but a battlefield
of some kind, and the opposing band as the enemy.  This is really too
bad.  Friendly rivalries and practical jokes between bands is one
thing, but hatred is absolutely unwarranted.  Unfortunately, the U$C
band feels that it must "fight" every other band it comes into contact
with, and as a result, every such band feels obligated to "fight"
back, hence everyone HATES the Trojan band.  If this is your goal,
well, I guess that's your prerogative.  If not, I would suggest a
massive change in attitude and treatment of other bands, and if
removing your drill sergeant is what it takes to do so, then so be it.
Then again, it may be too late and you may be stuck with your
reputation, like it or not.

I try not to be "preachy" generally, but dammit, open your eyes.

Scott
-- 
Scott Stanford                 |)  Eenie meenie miney moe.
stanford@leland.stanford.edu  /|   Catch a tiger by the toe.
                             ((|,) If he hollers...yeah whatEVER.
"MORE Doctah Peppah!!"        ~|~  He's EATIN' your ass.  Run, you idiot.
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Two Questions
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:27:16 GMT

dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly) writes:

>allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:
>>dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly) writes:
>>Geez Dave, what the hell crawled up your ass to make you so cranky?

>Finals week...Sorry.

Okay, I can DEFINITELY understand now!  In retrospect, you were
kinda' mild.  =)  Finals always made me like Mr. Hyde!!

allen
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From: jstripli@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Jeff R. Stripling)
Subject: Re: SWC antics
Organization: Fort Worth Research and Development Center, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:52:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.222630.19845@nntpserver.chevron.com> hbawl@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (Wilber L. Baker) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.192420.3999@ftpbox.mot.com> jstripli@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Jeff R. Stripling) writes:
>> And then there was the time that the MOB screwed up the A&M band using
>> whistles & mailed the UT band a videotape.  We watched it every year
>> before the A&M game.  I would kill for a copy.

First of all, I've been emailed that Rice students, not the MOB, did
this.  I stand corrected.

> Being run like a military organization, and thus having an
> overwhelming infatuation with history and tradition...we
> (the Aggie Band) never forget this story.   For TAMU vs. RICE
> games played at RICE Stadium,  drills are charted and
> taught for  NO WHISTLES except for the  opening step-off.

The UT band also reherses without whistles for the Rice, OU, and A&M
games for various reasons.  Noise is a problem at OU and A&M.  Extra
whistles might be a problem at Rice. ;-)

For one practice before the A&M game, the band director had the entire
drum section wander around the field making as much noise as possible
while the rest of the band ran through the show without playing.

Definatly one of the wierdest things I did in the UT band...

--
Jeff Stripling
jstripli@mot.com
From: 95lnm@williams.edu (Lisa Masterman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Band Traditions
Date: 14 Dec 1992 01:29:08 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: welsh.cs.williams.edu

In article <1992Dec10.174644.7430@news.columbia.edu> jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf) writes:
>I'm wondering what sort of odd band traditions you guys all have, like wierd
>places you play, events you always crash, etc.

Your band's tradition of playing in the Library reading room sounds familiar.
On the night before Homecoming, we Williams bandspeople steal about the campus
commando-style and sneak into buildings for unexpected and impromptu concerts.
One of the places we always hit is the library.  Have you ever tried to
covertly and innocently walk into a library next to a guy holding a 
sousaphone?

--lisa
Williams COllege Mucho Macho Moocow Marching Band



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From: lsjumb@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stanford Band)
Subject: Re: cheerleaders: kill them or just disembowel?
Organization: Stanford Band
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:08:14 GMT

In article <glurp> jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu)) writes:

>The MOB used to do most of the cheers that
>were heard, and I was leading them for many years until my tolerance for
>personal embarrassment diminished below the threshhold.  We had some pretty
>ridiculous cheers and some that were an awful lot of fun.
>
>embarrassing:  Oatmeal, oatmeal, salt and butter too
>               All for the Rice Owls hold up your shoe!
>
>Fun:  the spellout cheer (letter by letter) T-H-E W-I-L-L-I-A-M M-A-R-S-H 
>R-I-C-E I-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-E F-O-R T-H-E A-D-V-A-N-C-E-M-E-N-T O-F
>L-E-T-T-E-R-S S-C-I-E-N-C-E A-N-D A-R-T . (period)

I think bands tend to always have the best cheers - some LSJUMB faves:

PurSUE them
PurSUE them
MAKE them reLINquish the BALL

(repeat until crowd catches on - flip them off when they act like stunned
sheep - there's a corresponding one for offense to that Ethan came up with,
but I forget how it goes - in the meantime, there's:)

Be offensive, be be offensive (hey)

(repeat until crowd catches on)

ohhhhhhHHHHHHHH SHIT! (there are several more verses to this Holiday
Classic and Family Favorite, but we won't repeat them here, and the team's doing to well to use it as often as we'd like.  **sigh** )

Actually, the following was from my freshman dorm:
Give me an H (H!)
Give me an A (A!)..etc - you get the idea.  We end up spelling "Halt
their advance."  One of my favorites.  By the time you finished, the ball
had changed hands twice so you were still rooting for the correct team.

Scott
-- 
Leland Stanford Junior      .__________________. "Dinosaurs that Change
University Marching Band    | Stegosaurus Ave. |  into Road Signs" Show
                             ~~~~~~~~T~~~~~~~~~
lsjumb@leland.stanford.edu           |            Sit down, Joel.
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From: timm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Timm Knoerzer)
Subject: Re: Greetings!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:38:00 GMT

In article <Bz691J.JuH@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> vaurenta@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Chase) writes:
>    Well, C-ya all, and remember: Start on the LEFT foot!

 Well, as a member of the Garfield Cadets, we did pretty well starting on the
RIGHT foot.

	Timm
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley Band)
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:21:13 GMT

Richard.V.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

>I have a vignette about the U$C band and their behavior:
>Some of us from the UCLA Band slept out at the Rose Parade New Years
>Day, 1980.  We went to cheer for the Ohio State Band at the Parade.
>When U$C's band marched by, we waved dollar bills at them (U$C is the
>private school in town, where tuition is expensive).  The U$C band
>broke ranks to grab our money!  Art Bartner managed to shoo them back
>into line.  Even we, accustomed to U$C's boorishness, were shocked!

I was in that parade marching for Ohio State.  If you guys waved dollar
bills at us, we were probably too damned tired to notice!  Were you at
or close to the end of the parade route?  Those 7 miles seemed like the
LONGEST damn parade I've EVER marched in!  What was even worse was how,
at the end of the parade, we were *treated* (sic) to greasy cheeseburgers
and slightly chilled cans of soda.  How did I EVER make it through
college?

allen
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From: mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("")
Subject: Re: Virgina
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:44:52 GMT

	No, I swear, Kristen, (and I was an ass to blame it on
you in any way, as you were five too at the time) but we are not
allowed to play at your school.  We'd like to, but they just
won't let us. 

	You see, it all started back in 1977. Maryland's Governor
Mandel had been convicted of accepting bribes.  He was put in
jail.  The acting governor was Blair Lee III.  We play at your
school... and formed a guilotine:
Ann:  We'd like to welcome today's distinguished guest
conductor, MAryland's own Governor Mandel!!
	(Band member wearing prison stripes and carrying a ball
and chain approaches podium, but is escorted away by a cop)
Ann:	Uh... sorry, we'd like to introduce today's
distinguished, ACTING guest conductor, Blair Lee III.


	Blair Lee III, in typical frantic politico scrambling
(notice clever usage of that word -what a cunning linguist I
am) for brownie points demands an appology from our school.
Maryland's athletic dept. calls foul.  A "review" (read
"censorship" ) board is appointed that exists to this day.  And
we are not allowed in Maryland again!  

	But your fans liked us... they really liked us...

	We got a very R A W deal, all because some people
couldn't take what was actually a pretty good joke.

	Sorry about the anal rot comment, that was buttified.
	Standing O a FSU, huh?  That's impressive considering
the caliber band they are used to.  Did you meet any of the
Chiefs.  They came to our Stadium, and were such good fellows.

	See you next year, look for the trombone coated with Chinese
characters (Chongbone)
	
	Mick Stone, mss2e@Virginia.EDU
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From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: Marching in the Michigan Band
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:44:11 GMT

raistlin@macavity.engin.umich.edu (Douglas Treder ) writes:
> Highstepping and playing at the same time is a true art, and

Who said that you guys up there in the Tundra CAN march and play at the same
time???  I take that back, who said you guys up there can do your high chair 
step and play at the same time??? ;-)  We were up there a couple of years ago, 
and the STEP is quite impressive.  But, playing while doing the step is a little
bit different of a story.  You sound good when you're not jerking your entire 
body off of the ground, but it's not physically possible to do your high chair
step and play sustained notes at the same time.  Just a criticism...


  			   	   --------------------------------------------
								  Jeff Beckham
						      beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 			 	      			       Marching Illini 
                                    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
				   --------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:18:23 EST
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: greetings all
 <JIM.92Dec8225756@fuji.eng.yale.edu> <1992Dec9.052610.21361@news.columbia.edu>
 <1g539nINN9i9@savoy.cc.williams.edu>

In article <1g539nINN9i9@savoy.cc.williams.edu>, 95lnm@williams.edu (Lisa
Masterman) says:

>Hey guys, enough with putting each other's shows down.  We're all musicians
>here, and that should provide us with some unity, not rivalry.

Shut up and go away.   Your show sucks, and I never even saw it yet.

>williams college mucho macho marching band

Williams sucks!  ...I've never seen or heard of your band, but it's awful. :-)
(Sorry. Too much Mountain Dew.)

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From: kaw@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Ken Ward)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:39:47 GMT
Subject: Re: Anecdotes (Was Re: greetings all)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc


>    Er, um...  I'm a sophomore at Williams College and a member of the Mucho
>    Macho Moocow Marching Band.  As our name suggests, we are not entirely
>    serious, though we do strive towards good musical quality.  (Sometimes.)

>    --lisa
>    95lnm@cs.williams.edu
>    lmasterm@cs.ulowell.edu


Do they still throw out the ceremonial "first trumpet" every year?

My wife (non-marcher) is a proud Williams alum, but I am an even
more proud alum of the

	PRIDE OF WILDCAT LAND KANSAS STATE UNIVERSITY MARCHING BAND!

Ken (rif-ram-ba-zoo...) Ward
Trumpet, KSU '78
VXD Systems Division
Hewlett-Packard Company
Loveland, Colorado
kaw@hplvla.lvld.hp.com
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From: mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("")
Subject: Mamories... Memories
Organization: University of Virgin'
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:32:20 GMT

	Can anybody else share some old high school stories
with me?  They make me all giddy and wiggly.  High School was
ever so diverting.  I still go back and play with them in the
stands everytime I get a chance.  Mr. Nanderson just looks at
me and shrugs.  He's such a cool guy.  He'd yell at us, but
we wouldn't pay attention.  I used to yell oh so loud (EYES?!
WITH PRIDE!!!  EYES?! WITH PRRRIIIIIIIDDDDEEE) My throat would
get hoarse after every practice.  We were so proud when we won
the Apple Blossumfestival.  We screamed and ran around
and hugged.  Our majorettes were the prettiest of all -except for the
head majorette -she was a nice girl, but I don't know what Mr.
Nanderson was thinking allowing her into that shameless outfit.  And our
director was such a cool guy, or did I say that before.  We
used to sing this song about Firemen on the back of the bus...
We were number one, I tell you. Number one, I say.  Do you know what
 that means?  I'll tell you,
laugh at me will you?  When the York High Falcons Fall in Line,
They're gonna win that victory ev'ry tine--Damnit,
I'll teach you.  Stop!  cause fills out hearts
and warms our bllod to hearthemshoutandroar (da da da da
gllliiisss) Louie, Louie, oh oh, and A- Way I Go ...WHere our
loyal patriots won/in warm... october sun (da, da da da, daaA AAARRNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!  
			Mick Stone
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From: "Gennis Emerson" <gemerson@ugly.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: UC songs
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:04:31 -0500

In article <FAIGIN.92Dec16200705@solarium.aero.org> faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) writes:
>On 17 Dec 92 00:22:40 GMT, edson@cis.rand.org (Edson Smith) said:
>
>> Sons of Westwood is still the song that most people associate with UCLA,
>> and stolen or not, UCLA fans and alums consider it to be *the* fight song.
>
>The late Kelly James wrote "Sons of California" as a graduate student at Cal,
>but did not copyright it. When he moved to UCLA, he re-wrote it as "Sons of
>Westwood" and copyrighted it, thereby really annoying the Cal people!!! and
>since it is copyrighted by UCLA the Cal people are SOL!!
>
>--- Mindy Shaffer
>    Alto Saxophone (yes, a WOODWIND player!!!)
>    UCLA '78
>
>(using Daniel's account -- DPF)
>--

Hmm. Maybe someone can unconfuse me (it's amazing what I can find to worry
about besides that final I have to take tomorrow :-). I was in the Cal
Aggie Marching Band-uh at UC Davis. We had our own fight song, but we also
played several other fight songs belonging to the University of California.
One of these was "Sons of California",  and another was "Big C". I'm fairly
sure that the song I heard as "Sons of Westwood" was the tune that went
with "Big C". So rescue me from op sys studying and tell me if they're the
same or not.

I really miss playing in the band. This is making me homesick, and I can't
even go play with the Aggie Band at a basketball game when I'm home this
winter because of that damn administration saying alumni can't perform with
the band anymore. I wonder if they're going to let us march on Picnic Day? 

-- 
Gennis Emerson              "... I really hate to ask it, but do you
gemerson@cs.indiana.edu                  have a basket?"
From: Richard.V.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley Band)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:14:42 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec14.193220.20701@news.duc.auburn.edu>, hammekr@eng.
auburn.edu wrote (more U$C);
 
|>But, to the point.  In 1987 we (Auburn) played U$C in the Florida Citrus
|>Growers Consortium of America and Other Allied Industries Which Must Be
|>Mentioned Every Five Minutes On the Telecast Bowl.  We did, as I recall,
|>a joint pregame.  They were jerks!  They were hollering [:*)] rude things
|>at us so much it was amazing that they made it through Conquest 35,000
|>times.  Is this kind of stuff the rule on the Left Coast?
>About halfway through the game the drums and t-bones started playing
|>"Conquest" back at them.  We got a lot better crowd response. ;)
 
Hee! hee!  Good for you!.
 
Well, the Berkeley Band can be pretty rude, but they are not nearly as
nasty as u$c!  Everyone else is fairly civil, so those two are 
exceptions.
 
I have a vignette about the U$C band and their behavior:
Some of us from the UCLA Band slept out at the Rose Parade New Years
Day, 1980.  We went to cheer for the Ohio State Band at the Parade.
When U$C's band marched by, we waved dollar bills at them (U$C is the
private school in town, where tuition is expensive).  The U$C band
broke ranks to grab our money!  Art Bartner managed to shoo them back
into line.  Even we, accustomed to U$C's boorishness, were shocked!
 
I told this story to a friend from the Stanford Band later.
"How tacky!"  he responded.  I replied that he shouldn't talk about
being tacky, being a member of the LSJUMB.  "Yeah, but we make no
pretense about being a class organization!"
 
Rich Lamb
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