From: Rich Thomson <rthomson@dsd.es.com>
Subject: RESULT: sci.fractals passes 295:20
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:34:25 GMT

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The call for votes period has ended with a passing result for

	sci.fractals	Unmoderated

There were 295 yes votes and 20 no votes out of a total of 315 votes.
This meets the Usenet requirements of at least 100 more yes votes than
no votes with at least 2/3 of the total vote being yes votes.  Where
possible, I identified multiple votes from the same person to
eliminate duplicate votes.

Of the "NO" votes received, the commentary was that there wasn't
enough traffic to warrant moving the group to the sci hierarchy from
the alt hierarchy.  However, the move from alt to sci is intended to
increase traffic.

Proposed Charter:

    The new group will not be moderated.

    This newsgroup will be for discussion of fractals, which have been
    defined as "objects of non-integral dimension".  The concept ties
    in closely with chaos, and indeed some chaotic attractors exhibit
    a fractal structure.  It is expected that discussions will range
    over a wide variety of topics relating to fractals:

    o the mundane	Where can I find FRACTINT?
    o the mathematical	What is the true area of the Mandelbrot set?
    o the practical	What's all this about fractal compression?
    o the scientific	What's the "fractal dimension" of the Rockies?

    While fractals were initially popularized by their representations
    via computer graphics techniques, the interest in fractals beyond
    the computer graphics and mathematical communities is growing.
    Dana Scott, in his Elliot Organick Memorial Lecture at the University
    of Utah in 1992, reported that the number of publications in the
    past year alone with either the word "fractal" or "chaos" in the title
    was over 4,000.  This indicates a significant interest in these
    subjects in the academic world.

Since this new group is intended to replace alt.fractals, I will call
for the removal of alt.fractals (or its aliasing) in favor of
sci.fractals after a sufficient amount of time (30 days) has passed
for most sites to start carrying sci.fractals.

						-- Rich

The following people voted "YES" for sci.fractals:
 "Andrew A. Chernov, Black Mage" <ache@astral.msk.su>
 "Christopher J. Henrich" <cjh@tinton.ccur.com>
 "Dave Schaumann" <dave@cs.arizona.edu>
 "Erich E. Brumbaugh" <eb2b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU>
 "Geoffrey D. Bennett" <geoffrey@tafe.sa.edu.au>
 "Geoffrey H. Day" <geoffrey@geo.geol.utas.edu.au>
 "Gordon A. Sterling" <gordon.sterling@analog.com>
 "Jason D. Kridner" <jdk5906@tamsun.tamu.edu>
 "John S. Novak III" <darknite@camelot.bradley.edu>
 "Luis G. Hernandez Ure\:a." <GHERNAN%UCRVM2.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
 "Michael L. Kaufman" <kaufman@delta.eecs.nwu.edu>
 "Nick Kline" <kline@cs.arizona.edu>
 "Robert D. Black" <rdblack@neumann.uwaterloo.ca>
 "daniel.offutt" <daniel.offutt@mixcom.mixcom.com>
 "neto@bruc.bitnet" <NETO%ccvax.unicamp.br@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
 "robert j hinde" <rjh1@midway.uchicago.edu>
 55beimle@cs.wmich.edu (John Beimler)
 A.H.Osbaldestin@lut.ac.uk (Andy Osbaldestin)
 Adam Justin Thornton <adam@owlnet.rice.edu>
 Adrian Howard <adrianh@cogs.sussex.ac.uk>
 Andreas Genau <genau@hera.gmd.de>
 Andrew Bromage <bromage@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
 Andrew Stoker <mac742@central1.lancaster.ac.uk>
 Andy Gallo <gallo@asel.udel.edu>
 Andy Harp <"LISZT::harp%hermes.mod.uk"@relay.mod.uk>
 Antti Karttunen <karttu@mdata.fi>
 B.J. 12-Aug-1992 1016 <herbison@erlang.enet.dec.com>
 BOSHOFF@sunvax.sun.ac.za
 Brian B. Young <young@tao.sscnet.ucla.edu>
 Chandan Halder <chandan@chanakya.csa.iisc.ernet.in>
 David McKee <dmckee@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>
 David Nettleton <D.J.Nettleton@durham.ac.uk>
 David S. Blumenthal <dsb@osustat.mps.ohio-state.edu>
 David Sanderman <davidsan@microsoft.com>
 Doug_Crompton@mindlink.bc.ca (Doug Crompton)
 Erik Rauch <hourglas!erikr@wisdom.bubble.org>
 Evert Wolsheimer <ewol@creeper.xilinx.com>
 F.Dudbridge@gdr.bath.ac.uk
 Faster than a speeding bullet <harrison@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
 G.Sauvebois@frec.bull.fr (G. SAUVEBOIS)
 Gregor Purdy <gregor@fredrik.oit.itd.umich.edu>
 Gregory Yovanof <yovanof@hplgy.hpl.hp.com>
 Hendrik Boom <hendrik%vedge.UUCP@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
 Hi how are you <j_wilson@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk>
 Huddleston <reh@wam.umd.edu>
 INUNN@HPB.HWC.CA
 J E H Shaw <strgh@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
 James T Graves <jg4o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
 Jeff.Barbose@AZALEA.LEARNING.CS.CMU.EDU
 Jens.Horstmann@Eng.Sun.COM (Jens Horstmann * 415-336-3537)
 Jeyakesavan Veerasamy <veerasam@utdallas.edu>
 Jim Kirkpatrick <JIMKIRK@corral.uwyo.edu>
 Jocelyn Paine <POPX@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
 John G Dobnick <jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
 Jyrki Kuoppala <jkp@cs.hut.fi>
 KENELM W PHILIP <FNKWP@acad3.alaska.edu>
 Karthik P Sheka <kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
 Kees van der Wal +31 70 332 6295 <J.C.vanderWal@research.ptt.nl>
 Keith A Gottlieb <axekg@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
 Keith Clayton <clayton@macpost.vanderbilt.edu>
 Kent Murray <murray@ug.cs.dal.ca>
 Kevin Blaine Fluet <fluet@ee.ualberta.ca>
 Konrad Weigl <Konrad.Weigl@sophia.inria.fr>
 L.Newnham@bradford.ac.uk
 Laurence F Wood <70302.3106@CompuServe.COM>
 Lee Silverman <ST101137@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
 Louis Keiner <keiner@earthview.cms.udel.edu>
 Martin Schoenhacker <martin@eichow.tuwien.ac.at>
 Meinolf Asshoff <mas@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de>
 Michael Robb <michaelr@spider.co.uk>
 Michael Welser <mwelser@iaik.tu-graz.ac.at>
 Mike Zanker <mike@mallard.demon.co.uk>
 N020BA@tamvm1.tamu.edu
 NARAHT@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
 Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu
 PERSSON ERIK DEWITT <persson@tramp.Colorado.EDU>
 Paddy Johnson CIRT <pjohnso@triton.unm.edu>
 Paul Guertin <guertinp@iro.umontreal.ca>
 Paul Palmer <palmerp@MATH.ORST.EDU>
 Peter Cahoon <cahoon@cs.ubc.ca>
 Peter Edwards <edwards@sc.sni.ie>
 Philip J. Nesser <pjnesser@rocket.com>
 Porsupah <PORSUPAH@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU>
 RAVEN%KAOS@VAXF.Colorado.EDU
 Ralf Stephan <ralf@ark.abg.sub.org>
 Randy J. Ray <rray@snakepit.it.uswc.uswest.com>
 Rekha Suryanarayana <rekhas@utdallas.edu>
 Richard Freytag <freytag@seas.gwu.edu>
 Rick Speer <speer@anchor.cs.colorado.edu>
 Rik Fleuren <rik@sci.kun.nl>
 Robert Reinstatler <reinstat@u.washington.edu>
 Robert Roy Hentzel <kostya@iastate.edu>
 Robert.Uomini@Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Uomini)
 Roger Phillips <roger@quantime.co.uk>
 Ronald Joe Record <rr@sco.COM>
 Ryan Bayne <ryan.bayne@canrem.com>
 Sam Laur <slime@mdata.fi>
 Seth Leichter <leichter@cs.widener.edu>
 Simon <S.Juden@gdr.bath.ac.uk>
 Simona Rusnak <rusnak@ifi.unizh.ch>
 Steve Yaros <yaros@sab46.larc.nasa.gov>
 Stig Hemmer <stig@lise.unit.no>
 Sven Wachter <sven@laire.hotb.sub.org>
 Taj Khattra <khattra@cs.sfu.ca>
 Tak <mtakacs@u.washington.edu>
 Thomas Bogenschuetz <bogenschuetz@mathematik.uni-Bremen.de>
 Thomas Gramstad <sigar@ifi.uio.no>
 Tom Crossland <tomc@siesoft.co.uk>
 Tommy Vaske <cafer@etek.chalmers.se>
 Udo Sprute <sprute@unibi.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>
 Venkata Goli <goli@plains.NoDak.edu>
 Vlachopoulos Panagiotis <panosv@theseas.ntua.gr>
 Warren Kafer <warrenk@tvnews.tv.tek.com>
 Yiannis Ventikos <yvent@areti.marinentua.ariadne-t.gr>
 acharya@vonneuman.cs.uakron.edu (Sunil Acharya)
 ahorn@novalis.public.sub.org (Alexander Horn)
 amalver@mark1.cs.oberlin.edu (Aaron Malver)
 an@inzer.steepler.msk.su (Andrew Pochinsky)
 anders@dikas.no (Anders Emil Olsen)
 ap1wbz@uk.ac.sheffield.acms1 (William Zimmerman)
 arakawa@nttarm.ntt.jp (Kenichi Arakawa)
 arao@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Andy Rao )
 arnemo@ii.uib.no
 asteiner@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Andrew Steiner)
 axolotl@socs.uts.EDU.AU
 bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
 bob@neros.com (Bob Clystenmeier)
 bobs@hal.com (Bob Schaugaard)
 brutzman@cs.nps.navy.mil (Don Brutzman)
 bryan@ad.cise.nsf.gov (Bryan Thompson)
 bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler)
 catapdhs@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
 cc_s525@kingston.ac.uk
 cgd@agate.berkeley.edu
 chalcraft@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Adam Chalcraft)
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 cheryl@goshawk.LANL.GOV (Cheryl A. F. Stewart)
 cklausme@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
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 cohen@lindsay.psychiatry.uiowa.edu
 colin@computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk
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 crauel@vieta.math.uni-sb.de (Hans Crauel)
 crounse@ethel.berkeley.edu (Great Rumpuscat)
 cs_jh@cox.nsac.ns.ca@fox.nstn.ns.ca
 csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher M. Cohen)
 d8samto@dtek.chalmers.se
 dab@ubitrex.mb.ca (Daniel Boulet)
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 davemc@itchy.dsd.ES.COM (Dave McAllister)
 davison@living.rutgers.edu
 dbell@cup.portal.com
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 degroot@mksol.dseg.ti.com (doug degroot)
 derunix@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Derek Wright)
 djoyce@black.clarku.edu (Dave Joyce)
 djsrmi@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (John Sadowsky x6211)
 dtarb@pub.uwrl.usu.edu
 dwiseman@erim.org (Dave Wiseman)
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 earrond@mars.calstatela.edu (Ellis Arrondo)
 edoardo@almaden.ibm.com
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 eric@kerbor.fr (Eric Meyer)
 erick@sfu.ca (Erick Bryce Wong)
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 ewing@iastate.edu
 frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
 frank@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (Frank Horowitz)
 gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 gbastin@x102a.ess.harris.com (bastin gary 60293)
 graef@hrz.th-darmstadt.de
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 harrisd@ll.mit.edu ( David Harris)
 heilmayr@math.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr)
 helenm@cae.wisc.edu
 hoodr@netcom.com (Robert Hood)
 hsg@lem.cs.duke.edu (Henry Greenside)
 hubbard@cs.uoregon.edu
 huber@buphy.bu.edu (Greg Huber)
 huff@MCCLB0.MED.NYU.EDU (Edward J. Huff)
 idealord@dorsai.com (Jeff Harrington)
 intro%@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au (temporary login)
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 jbreiden@fergie.atl.ge.com (Jeff A Breidenbach)
 jcp@escher.trg.saic.com (John C. Peterson)
 jgpletin@rc1.vub.ac.be (Pletinckx Jurgen)
 jgs@photon.photon.com
 jinsley@std.MENTORG.COM (Jim Insley)
 jkogut@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jon Kogut)
 johne@iti.gov.sg (Dr. John S. Eickemeyer)
 jpotts@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
 jra@barracuda.wti.com (Jim Atkinson)
 jwd@cs.brown.edu (James Durkin)
 jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
 kanthony@eve.wright.edu (Keith Anthony)
 kate@ponton.hanse.de (Katharina Baumann)
 kattenberg <asslkat@cc.ruu.nl>
 kayaalp@seas.smu.edu (Mehmet M. Kayaalp MD)
 ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn)
 keller@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
 kevin@syd.bull.oz.au (Kevin Allen)
 kgarime@cadev6.intel.com (Krishna Garimella ~)
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 ktc@onan.jhuapl.edu (Kim T Constantikes)
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 lhdsy1!amadeus.lahabra.chevron.com!yzarn@uunet.UU.NET (Philip Yzarn de Louraill
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 lmitchel@nyx.cs.du.edu (lloyd mitchell)
 man@prip.tuwien.ac.at (Michael A. Neuhauser)
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 martin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (martin fallon)
 mav@encap.hanse.de (Jan-Oliver Neumann)
 mbaker@erenj.bitnet (Michael Baker)
 mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
 mburton@neptune.hemel.bull.co.uk (Mark Burton)
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 mcnamara@vixvax.mgi.com
 mcz@vhyaduck.sarnoff.com (Martin Czigler x3159)
 mfoltz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Foltz)
 michael@t13.Lanl.GOV (Michael I Angerman)
 mitch@novavax.nova.edu (Mitch Silverman)
 moser@jalwork.sw.stratus.com (Tom Moser)
 mpheil@ssdc.sterling.com (Mike Pheil)
 msiren@exterminator.cs.hut.fi
 mt87692@cs.tut.fi (Mikko Tsokkinen)
 nbush@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
 nick@manasys.co.nz (Nick Ivanov)
 nils@geom.umn.edu
 nye@voglnp.pnl.gov
 oldroyd@wucs1.wustl.edu (L. A. Oldroyd)
 os9@gkcl.ists.ca (OS-9 User Group)
 ossip@obh.in-berlin.de (Ossip Kaehr)
 p_misiak@UniBw-Hamburg.DE (Carlo Misiak)
 parksoft!dave (David Hendrix)
 pc@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (pc)
 pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
 pfcouvar@amhux1.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares)
 phantom@cs.UMD.EDU (Scott Perry)
 philippe@CRT.UMontreal.CA (Philippe Grant 514-341-7106)
 phillips@swanee.ee.uwa.oz.au (Christopher Phillips)
 plouffe@mipsmath.math.uqam.ca (Simon Plouffe)
 rdm@RDM.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU
 rnelson@uc.d.umn.edu (ron nelson)
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 ruman@meroot.eng.uci.edu (g v ruman)
 saga2@bart.inescn.pt (SAGA/SGBDR diversos )
 sammy@flint.smds.com (Samuel Murphy)
 scd@cs.brown.edu (Steven C. Dollins)
 scm@aiware.in-berlin.de (Harald Schmidt)
 scott@techbook.com (Scott Huddleston)
 seligman@ichthyo.tera.com (Mark Seligman)
 shaun@octelc.octel.com (Attacking Deep Structure)
 shirley@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Shirley [CSC])
 siler@cs.utk.edu
 simon@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU
 sjouke@izf.tno.nl (Sjouke Burry)
 smb3u@kiptron.psyc.Virginia.EDU
 smclark@iastate.edu
 smitty@emilio.dsd.ES.COM (Maurice Smith)
 soddell@redgum.ucnv.edu.au (Jacques Soddell)
 solan@math.uio.no
 sondeen@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sondeen)
 stuart@lorelei.ECE.Drexel.EDU
 swildner@channelz.GUN.de (Sascha Wildner)
 terescoj@tardis.union.edu (Jim Teresco)
 terryd@mirc00.ncms.org (Terry Dexter)
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 wgilbert@fatou.uwaterloo.ca (William Gilbert)
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 x920031@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Jost Krieger)

The following people voted "NO" for sci.fractals:
 "Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
 "Howard Wachtel (312) 975-7970" <U13054@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
 "S. Wukovitz" <SXW103@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
 Bob Knighten <knighten@SSD.intel.com>
 Boris Hemkemeier <boris@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de>
 Danielle Bercel <dbercel@hpspdla.spd.hp.com>
 Doug Young <dougy@xvt.com>
 Dr. Mario Hilgemeier <mhi@megatel.de>
 Greg Lindahl <gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU>
 Sven Heinicke <sven@cs.widener.edu>
 claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
 djs@deneb.res.utc.com (David Sirag)
 eric@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Eric Majani)
 ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury)
 matwood%cascades@cs.utah.edu (Mark Atwood)
 pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
 readdm@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David M. Read)
 rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
 rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Richard Kulawiec)
 tom@clipper.clipper.ingr.com (Tom Granvold)
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