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From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: I quit
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:46:59 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	welcome to the club, cochise.


-- 
   /I\          Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
 /IIIII\        "Leave EVERYTHING to ME!" - Powdered Toast Man       
/IIIIIII\       Happiness is a warm gun.
From: dombart@muli.saar.de (John Raoul Dombart)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: orange plastic fish and gay bars
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:0:17 GMT

llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) wrote...

>the weirdness marches on. i dunno if it's austin or if it's just me.
[...interesting description of beautiful weirdness deleted...]
>i don't understand why these things happen to me, but this week
>they've made me glad to be alive. now i just need to remember them
>next week when i start thinking of offing myself again.

I think it's because there are people getting a kick out of making
things happen that would't happen ever otherwise. Guess who.

ObAngst: If I don't do it, nobody ever will do it, so I have to make
         a fool of _myself_ again.

R.D.

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  /\ muli - may unexpected love increase
 /..\ In case of danger NTXIVBW the PRSPN !
/_\/_\ dombart@muli.saar.de
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Getting angstful over women (This is a really nasty story!)
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:58:59 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	remember this comes from a confirmed pessimist.  my advice:  
FORGET IT.  you have to choose, who's more important to you..  your best
friend or this woman.  my best friend broke up with his girlfriend and when
one of our other friends started to spend time with her, he became really
angry.  he  would tell me how much he resented the other guy hitting on his
ex..  luckily nothing came of it romantically, but if there had been anything,
I definitely would say their friendship would be over.  Also, you have to
consider, typically our best friends are quite similar in habit, temperament,
and personality to ourselves.  do you share this with your best friend?  if
so,  and he couldn't make the relationship work out (or break up on better
terms), do you think you will have better luck?  remember, in a relationship,
bad points and traits (especially those you've mentioned) become magnified and
distorted.  this comes from years listening to friends talk about their SO's.
If your best friend couldn't stand this woman after a while, do you think
that somehow it won't happen to you?  fact is you will probably ask her to go
out, maybe work some conversation, and she'll bolt, and be too embarrased
about the whole thing to talk to you again.. this has happened to me too many
times.  now the only way for me to live with this is to be clueless.
purposefully refusing to read any references or messages into convertsations
with women.  if a woman is interested, she has to TELL ME, or I will do
NOTHING.  because every time I interpret a message, it's always wrong and ends
up embarrasing both of us.  I've resigned myself to the fact that this will
effectively kill any romantic opportunities for me, but I am more comfortable
(albeit lonely) that way.  Occasionally I feel like I'm being hinted, but I
have learned that for me to be totally comfortable I have to IGNORE it.  this
doesn't mean I don't have urges, but I have learned to SUPPRESS them, and let
them out as different energy (such as: cars, computers, technologies,etc).
	This may not be the policy for you, but it does for me.  and whoever
said "it's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" was
spouting a crock of shit.  Ive loved and lost, and wish I'd never even
bothered.

-- 
   /I\          Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
 /IIIII\        "Leave EVERYTHING to ME!" - Powdered Toast Man       
/IIIIIII\       Give me SLACK or give me food (or kill me).
From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: adjective of choice
Date: 30 Sep 1992 00:03:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



Occasionally I notice that a word has crept into frequent use in
my every day vocabulary, usually a word I have known all along but
rarely have found occasion to use.  I realized today that my 
latest favorite word is:  

                    VICARIOUS


I'm getting ready to do *anything* (lizards, this does not mean you)
just to feel *something*.



-Jeanne


Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: machala@spdc.ti.com (Chuck Machala)
Subject: Re: tiredness.
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:46:00 GMT

rfarmer@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rex Farmer) writes:

>In article <1992Sep24.011004.8462@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>>
>>i'm just so tired of all this crap. i am tired of being me. i would like 
>>not to be at all, so i wouldn't get so tired. i don't see a point to being
>>here, except to waste resources. and there are so many people who could
>>make better use of them than me. 

>Hey, I've felt like that lots of times.  Sometimes I just wish I could go to
>sleep and never wake up, that I could stop _being_.

This reminds me of a sig or something I heard previously on alt.angst. Goes
something like "My life wouldn't be so boring/hard if I didn't have to live
it everyday." So, I say, take a vacation from yourself. Come to work tomorrow
as Loretta, or Sam, or anyone else except yourself. Cybil.

--
Reg:    "All right. But apart from the sanitation, the medecine, education,
        wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and
        public health... What have the Romans ever done for us?"   LoB
Chuck Machala - Semiconductor Process and Design Center - Texas Instruments
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Robert Robillard)
Subject: Re: wimmin!
Organization: /u1/duke/.organization
	<BuxDsx.7vp@midget.yps.saar.de>
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:33:39


   But what do you do when everywhere you go and with all
   the people you meet you get the feeling that you don't belong to this
   particular place or the people?

Keep moving.


--
Duke Robillard, DoD #0130, duke@osf.org
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tlb2665@usl.edu
Subject: Star Trek Angst
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:46:19 GMT

 This is my first angst posting - please bear with me.......

 I have on the dash of my car: one radar detector, one laser detector, one
car alarm module (combo Hg switch and voltage change detection). My car is
grey and black.

 On my key ring: the remote for my car alarm, an electronic key to my
office (both black).

 I carry a black beeper most of the time.

 When I wake up, the first things I see are the three remotes for my TV
system (75% black, some grey)

 I think I've been Borged!

 (Also, I work as a computer operator.  Took computer science in college.
Interneting is one of my major hobbies.)

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From: toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (T.S. Eliot)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Collapse of so-called civilis(z?)ation in Britain
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:22:42 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <80571@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>Stephen Grossman (pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU) wrote:
>
>:   And let's not forget an Austin-Healy 3000 I once had which was more likely
>: to refuse to turn off than to start!!! I recall many damp mornings walking to
>: school singing Rolling Stones tunes.
>
>the exspousoid used to build race motors, including lotsa little
>british car things like bug-eyed sprites and stuff. he used to bitch
>ceaselessly about the company that made their electrical systems, which
>he called "lucas, prince of darkness." the claim was that the british
>like warm beer 'cause they've got lucas refrigerators.

What you write concerning Lucas is all too true...  Lucas invented something
that, if truth in advertising were to hold, would have to be called the "three-
position two-position toggle switch."

Just a little toggle switch that looks like it should have an "off" and an
"on."  What you actually get when you hook it up to, for example, your
headlights is "off," "flicker," and "dim"....

The angst of an MG/Austin-Healy/etc. driver is a complex thing.  On the one
hand, he drives a car that _looks_ like an alpha vehicle--cute, fast, etc.

On the other hand, it's as likely as not to break down for no better reason
than temperament.  This leads to such nasty things as $40 in parking fees when
it gets temperamental in a restricted parking lot.

I love my car :) but my legs work really well after two years with it :).

>--
>sine nomine
>debbie martinson
>"all of the parts falling off of this car are of the finest british
>workmanship" -- sticker on a friend's mgb

Gee, a few of the fine parts on my MGB don't even have that much going for
them...

tj
From: mrf12@cus.cam.ac.uk (Marcus Frean)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: home.
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:52:57 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England


 Very weird - have been looking over all the bickering about what
counts as angst and what not - I dont count as a lurker 'cos I've only
just started reading the group a couple of weeks ago.  Some stuff
makes sense, eg. fish, some not, eg. aggro about "where did all the
*real* angst go?". Where was I. Oh yeah: got confused wondering
whether what's in my head counted as angst.  I guess I could tell a
story to attempt a show of sufficiently tortured credentials, but
really I'm just pissed off.  My mum's dead and it's weird not having a
home anymore.  The winter's coming and I haven't had enough light this
year.  My confidence is shite and it really spooks me shitless today.
Depressed? Me? Hell no.

As debbie said, your own melodrama is never as compelling to the
audience as to the actor.  But for some reason it's just so nice to
say it to a whole bunch of anonymousities. 
Hmmm.

marcus
From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: ObAngst, bah, MiniAngst, etc...
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:02:27 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Tero Mikko Laitinen (laitinen@cae.wisc.edu) wrote:

:   Hear hear.  The first sensible post in months.  Don't you people out
: there think at all what kind of crap you are posting into this group?
: I mean, WHO wants to know who of you little jerks has the fastest car
[bitching about specific posts deleted]
:   I don't mean you shouldn't write about angsty moments in your
: everyday life, you are welcome to do so.  It's just that those few
: _real_ postings are hidden under this HUGE pile of total idiotic
: bullshit.

this is the rest of the stuff i wantd to say to xibo and to this
person, also.

first, it always amazes me that people sit around and bitch "you're
not posting right! there aren't any good posts here" yet these same
people haven't been producing any of the "quality" posts they think
are missing fomr the newsgroup. you'd think that it would occur to
reasonably intelligent human beings that perhaps the way to modify the
behavior of others is through example, not bitching and flaming. if
you want a particular sort of topic discussed, bring it up. of course,
then you'd have to give up your righteous indignation and sense of
having been wronged, and that would never do.

the second thing i noticed is something i touched on up there. you're
both standing in the middle of things, demanding that everyone else
modify their behavior in order to suit you. it's pretty much futile to
try to force other people to change; you can't control the actions of
another. lots of frustration comes out of this; people tend to
approach a problem by thinking about what changes in other people
would solve the problem (i saw this a lot on the hotline). when you
find yourself demanding that others change and all it achieves is
general frustration, it's sometimes a good idea to step back and
figure out what in yourself you can change to make the situation
tolerable.

the point? instead of demanding that everyone stop talking about
things you don't find important (since your angst is better than my
angst), why don't the two of you learn to use a killfile and then
begin making the sorts of posts you think belong here? that's the
great thing about killfiles; you can make a group whatever you want it
to be, and you don't have to rely on forcing change in others to do
it.

of course, then you'd have to get rid of the flamethrower and the
whiny attitude, which might give you some difficulty.

--
sine nomine
debbie martinson
"be who you are, if it fits in the system. say what you want; you might 
die if they listen" -- toad the wet sprocket


Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: PIN Number
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:29:29 GMT
Organization: UB

judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:

>Don't you hate when people say PIN number?  I mean, like, geez,it's redundant.
>"Hey, what's your Personal Identification Number Number?"

What you mean the code you need to use the ATM machineso you can get some cash
to buy a cone of TCBY yogurt?

>"I drank what?" -- Socrates
>judson@watserv.ucr.edu

Gerson Koenig
gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling)
Subject: Re: death of
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:24:21 GMT

Condolences.  I suggest you look in soc.couples
Someone has posted about their girl-friends death,
and there are some good replies that say the things
I tried to say and failed.

You have all our sympathies.  Not least because we
know it is going to happen to all of us too.

        Ben
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: adjective of choice
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:00:28 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <1992Sep30.235210.1568@news.acns.nwu.edu> ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung) writes:

>	lacerta sum
>
>"I'm a lizard," emphasis on "lizard."  Who knows?


I do.  I know that you're a lizard.



-- 
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schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov         |             Boo. 
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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: death@buhub.bradley.edu (Dustin Slater)
Subject: Re: random screams
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 05:09:35 GMT

In <1992Oct5.022711.23325@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (T.S. Eliot) writes:
>>
>>i hate discovering that everything i've ever wanted is half a
>>continent away.
>>
>Granted, Virginia isn't precisely half a continent away from Texas,
>but it might as well be.   ;)

as is Texas from Illinois :(
--
death@buhub.bradley.edu        INEVITABILE FATVM       death@camelot.bradley.edu

                       Does life seem worthwhile to you?
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: EDIAS@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (EMILIANO A DIAS)
Subject: Re: Getting angstful over women (This is a really nasty story!)
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:32:27 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Sep30.080904.26105@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> adem1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz writes:
> 
>    There is a girl i know well and quite closely that i have had no interest
>    in till recentley, and its hit me like a ton of bricks. She is (gulp) my
>    best friends ex girlfriend who when through a really beautiful thing with
>    each other but have both come out of the relationship bitter about each othere
>    perhaps because they where too dependent on each other. They, at the moment
>    cannot get along with each other because the boy, (lets call him bert) has
>    written off the whole relationship, and the girl (lets call her Belle) has
>    given up on him almost because of their pigheadedness.
> 
>    Its pretty well accepted that she has a few personality problems, like "i'm
>    always right" and a superiority complex, as well as an i'm the most experianced
>    person in the world at everything." This may be a little harsh, but i just
>    recently have become attracted to her in a way i don't really understand.

	[unpertinent stuff deleted]

> 
>    Its like since we are really close friends, how would she feel about this
>    relationship changing, and if she would want it to change (she is 1 and a
>    half years older than me and i am in my late teens.) The relationship we
>    have at the moment is a brother-sister which i have been happy with for a
>    very long time. Would I lose out if I told her the truth about my feelings
>    that i don't truly understand myself? 

        [more stuff deleted]

I once had a friend who was female, I'll call her Britt, because
that was her name.  Anyway we were friends for a while and then I started
to feel differently for her than she felt for me.  I work up my courage
and told her how I had come to feel about her.  She didn't feel the same way
about me.  "Okay", I though to myself, "maybe in time she'll feel the same
way about me"  Well, she never did change how she felt about me.  Sometimes
it seemed that we were getting closer to eachother and starting to become
more than friends but then these supposed feelings would stop abuptly
and we'd continue just being friends.  

When we both started college, our friendship stopped.  We wrote to eachother
and met occaionally but just as friends.  At our last meeting, I told her
that unless our relationship would mature into something other than friend-
ship I didn't want to see her or hear from her anymore.

We haven't spoken since.

It hurts when I think about her, but I find myself thinking about her
less and less.  Heck, I hadn't thought about her for two to three months
until I read this post.

   The moral of the story???

   Sometimes no matter how hard you try (or try to deny it), you and 
   someone else aren't meant to be together and eventually you learn
   to live with that knowledge.

           gee, that sounds kinda trite, doesn't it...   Tony Dias

Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Subject: Re: wimmin!
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:41:18 GMT

In <zlsiida.120@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

>In Lisdoonvarna (sp?) in County Clare (Galway?) in Ireland, they have a we'
>ll-pair-you-up-fest evry year

Shit! *amazement* You got it *all* right. Not bad for a Brit.  

>But you've missed it

Yah. And the women are only interested if you've got land. And cattle.
Or maybe sheep. 

Kind of tribal really.

Ollie/Lucifuge...



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From: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Arrogant Idiots
Date: 30 Sep 1992 06:09:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bs584@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeanne Leidy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Two days, I have to spend -- 48 hours -- with the 
ScreamingBitchBossLadyFromHell, at a totally useless conference,
powder paint finishing systems, or some such thing.  A five hour 
drive each way, in a trashy rental car, with this, this "person".

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I got a new supervisor this year.  She's the sort that knows nothing but loves
to lecture others.  I *hate* it when stupid people act superior to me.
I could easily beat her in any battle of wits, in fact I have, but that 
doesn't exempt me from having to listen to her drivel from time to time.
Or, in this case, for two days straight.
                                       
Suggestions for survival tactics welcome.  I have one week to prepare...

Jeanne :(

-- My apologies if you get two copies of this -- I tried to post it
   earlier but it bounced.
From: troyt@soda.berkeley.edu (Troy Terry)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: You asked for it
Summary: angst
Keywords: angst
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:12:24 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

I have all these problems and nobody cares.  I guess it really
sucks to be me.  Bummer.
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Are You a Misanthrope?
From: russelld@radical.amigans.gen.nz (Russell Donaldson)
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:07:13 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Disorganisation!

In article <1992Oct4.001015.43565@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II) writes:
>	I have a good friend (who does not have internet access) who wishes
>to pose a question to this forum.  She is a serious naturalist who is
>concerned about her views concerning mankind's actions as a whole.
>
>	To anyone who considers themselves a true misanthrope:	Why?  Why
>are you misanthropic?	What do you believe so much that you would term
>yourself as misanthropic?  What are your reasons for your beliefs?
>

  It's none of your goddamn business why i'm like I am...

  Leave me alone !

 __

 Russell
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Angst music
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:22:51 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <BvpoKG.3xB@news.larc.nasa.gov> mark@uab15.larc.nasa.gov (Mark Flanagan) writes:
>In article <BvpF4n.Bzq@acsu.buffalo.edu> gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig) writes:
>>At any rate, can we hear some reccomendations on angst-music? Do you folx find 
>>you listen to this sort of thing to relieve a bad mood or wallow in it?
>
>early Marillion.  wallow.
>

tori amos (little earthquakes), pearl jam, peter gabriel, kate bush, pink
floyd, elgar, mahler, etc, etc...

bah.

--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
From: lance@bach.udel.edu (Daniel A Lentz)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
Subject: Andrew
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:09:31 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Does anyone have andrew (5.1?) binaries laying around.  I really just want
to try EZ, but I can't get them to compile (It seems that Imakefile
type commands get put in the Makefile, and even after commenting those
out, I still can't get it to compile).

thanks, y'all.