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From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.perot
Subject: Re: Shrub wins! Shrub wins! -- Harry Caray
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:46:58 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Oct16.050442.15987@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.235249.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>     H-O-L-Y C-O-W!  Shrub wins!  Shrub wins!  (O.K., I'll stop
>>the Harry Caray imitation.)
>
>Not.
>
>Shrub's little attempt to steer the discussion into character issues
>was flatly rejected by the audience.  

Nonsense.  Bush obviously didn't want to touch character and he actually
steered around it himself with the stuff about his father and duty to 
country.

>Beyond that, there was nothing
>he had that Clinton didn't have a counter to.  A draw more or less.

Make that one..two..three counter points.

-anwar
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From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: BRAVES WIN!!! (oh yeah, Bush stuff too)
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:36:22 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education

In article <casey.719166307@snail.ecn.purdue.edu> casey@snail.ecn.purdue.edu (Kenneth H Casey) writes:

>demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>
>
>>. . .  George never referred to Willie by name, nor did he use Willie's
>>picture.
>
>Bush most certainly did utter the words "Willie Horton" during the 1988
>campaign, but perhaps the bright colors from the flag that Bush wrapped
>around himself distracted people from that fact.
>
>(Yes, a committee independent of the Bush campaign ran the TV spots, but
>this does change the fact that Willie Horton helped Bush get elected.)

     What a novel concept.

     Does this mean that if the economy helps Clinton get elected when can
blame him for it?


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From: casey@cidmac.ecn.purdue.edu (Kenneth H Casey)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: BRAVES WIN!!! (oh yeah, Bush stuff too)
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:21:18 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes:

>     What a novel concept.

>     Does this mean that if the economy helps Clinton get elected when can
>blame him for it?

The economy and George Bush is helping Clinton get elected.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: On the first debate among the presidential candidates
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:34:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <ads3.11.718935631@PO.CWRU.edu> ads3@PO.CWRU.edu (Andrew Shults) writes:

>>	- the slowest economic growth since Herbert Hoover
>
>If the economy is growing (or even staying stable), we are not in a
>a recession.  A recession is defined as a period of time during which
>GNP declines for two or more successive quarters.  Open up any
>Macroeconomics textbook for confirmation of that. 

   Another Usenerd answer.  Yes, technically this is correct.  But
   it's a "distinction without a difference".   Maybe we need some
   new word for whatever we're in, but slinging economic formalisms
   around the Net doesn't change the fact that the economy's in the
   toilet (open up any plumbing textbook).


---peter


Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.marrou,alt.politics.elections
From: tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu (tom)
Subject: Re: Debate results
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content
Organization: The Lab Rats
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:27:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.054903.29070@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> StarOwl@uiuc.edu writes:
}I also wish that Marrou had been invited to the event.  Granted, I think
}he would have come off as sounding like some wacko as compared to
}the Big Three, especially on the drug issue,

i don't know about that. Bush wants to put me and my friends in jail;
Clinton and Perot both want to put me and my friends in concentration
camps; Marrou wants to leave us alone as long as we're not hurting
anyone. who sounds more reasonable?

Bush gave his standard spend billions of dollars on enforcement, bring
in the military, get tough speech. Perot said Bush is a wimp, I would
ignore the Constition even more completely than he does. and Clinton,
just to be different while saying the same thing, spouted absolute
nonsense about "crack babies".

picking the winner and loser on this question is a real tough call.

}but he is a candidate in
}all 50 states.  It seems to me that everyone who has made the ballot
}nationwide should be invited to these joint appearances, if only
}to give the American public a chance to know that they are out there
}and to let them hear what they have to say before Election Day.

all three of the candidates in the debate want to raise taxes, the one
they excluded wants to lower taxes.

remember that for every $1.00 of new revenue congress is given, they
create $1.80 in new spending. raising taxes won't cut the deficit--it
will increase it! 

-- 
tom@udel.edu                                        ...!{gateway}!udel!tom
tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu           UDel: School of Life and Health Sciences
Libertarian candidate for Delaware House of Representatives, 23rd District

"Themes were useless; Destiny was here, and the foot pedals were bleeding."
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: test2
X-Xxdate: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:09:26 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:12:24 GMT

this is another test.

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




When the going gets wierd, the wierd turn pro
                               Hunter Thompson
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From: U56503@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: ==> Clinton E-Mail, Phone and FAX
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:19:35 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Supersedes: <92282.231117U56503@uicvm.uic.edu>

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: jlohrmann@igc.apc.org
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Date: 08 Oct 92 07:35 PDT
Subject: CLINTON TALKING PTS: 10/5/92
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1588800026:000:2723
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!jlohrmann    Oct  8 07:35:00 1992


From: <jlohrmann>
Subject: CLINTON TALKING PTS: 10/5/92

From: Clinton for President <75300.3115@compuserve.com>

 For People for a Change: Clinton-Gore '92
 National Talking Points
 Monday, October 5

 MESSAGE:  From free trade to welfare reform, Clinton is a different
 kind of Democrat who's going to do things differently from Bush.

 NAFTA.  Clinton announced yesterday that he is for the free trade
 agreement. But unlike Bush, he has a free trade strategy that
 includes our workers and our environment.

 Jobs.  Bush uses our tax dollars to send our jobs to Central America.
 Clinton will invest that money in our jobs here at home.

 Health care.  Bipartisan Panel on Presidential Candidates' Health
 Plans prefers Clinton's plan.  The panel of 3 Republicans and two
 Democrats found Clinton's plan saves the U.S. $750 billion by year
 2000. Bush's plan saves only $150 billion.  Clinton's plan controls
 costs.  Bush's doesn't.  Clinton's plan covers everybody.  Bush's
 doesn't.

 Taxes.  Bush raised taxes on the middle class to pay for tax
 giveaways to millionaires and companies who move our jobs overseas.
 Clinton has kept taxes low in Arkansas. He'll give the middle class a
 break.

 Debates.  Bush is good at delivering one line put downs made for the
 media. Clinton wants the debates to be about America's concerns.

 Attacks.  Bush has nothing positive to say.  Dirt is all he's got
 because his campaign is already three feet deep in a six foot grave.

 Gender gap.  From family leave he opposed, to gag rule he proposed,
 to crime bill he opposed, to Clarence Thomas he nominated, to disease
 research he opposed, Bush has alienated women.

 World view.  Clinton was shaped by a humble childhood that drives him
 to put people first.  Bush enjoyed an elite lifestyle and remains out
 of touch with ordinary Americans.

 Endorsements.  Clinton "will give the country a better balance of
 belief, leadership and ability to communicate... [he] represents a
 common-sense alternative to the drift of the Bush years and the
 trickle-down philosophy." -- Detroit Free Press (10/4/92).

 Clinton, "by addressing anxieties about jobs, unemployment, health
 care and education, has connected better with the hopes and
 frustrations of the ordinary citizen in the last few months than Bush
 has in the last four years." -- Seattle Times (10/4/92)

 Schedule.  The sixth bus trip goes through Florida today.  Bush could
 lose the state he won in '88 with 61% of vote.  The bus trips have
 reinvented presidential campaigns. The C/G team has travelled
 together a total of 21 days since the convention, Bush and Quayle
 only once.

 Authorized by Clinton/Gore '92 Committee
 Box 615, Little Rock, AR 72203.




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From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: ==> Rhetoric Vs. Reality--The First Debate
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:46:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Oct12.195837.4272@technology.com> judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin) writes:

>	You know what productivity growth is?  It's letting people go --
>	laying off -- firing.  Then it takes less money to produce. Of
>	course, people are working harder, but, no matter -- they're
>	just happy to be employed! 

   This is simplistic.  It *could* mean the above, of course.  But it
   could also just mean *genuine* efficiencies.  Finding a better way
   of doing something so it take less work (i.e., fewer people).  Or
   better quality up-front so you don't have to devote as many people
   to fixing bugs or addressing customer problems once the product
   has gone out the door.   Technological improvements, such as putting
   the contents of three circuit boards onto one, or one onto a single
   chip, reduce manpower needs everywhere from the stockroom to purchasing
   to engineering.  Or using a common processor across a  whole family of 
   computers so you don't need to support so much different software.
   
   Note that most of the above are also beneficial to the customer.

   This is the reality that's being lost on many people -- technology
   and process improvement can *genuinely* reduce the number of people
   it takes to design, manufacture, and support a product, and often 
   result in a better product at the same time.  And the technology
   will only get better, and processes will continue to improve.  
   This is one reason why we can at least theoretically have a growing
   economy even while there are fewer and fewer jobs (until we reach
   a point where nobody has any money to buy anything).   That's why
   these jobs will not be coming back.  

   Probably to maintain social order we'll all have to go to shorter 
   workweeks someday so there are jobs to go around.  But I have no
   idea how that can be accomplished noncoercively.


---peter



Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: scottm@intime.intime.com (Scott Michel)
Subject: Re: Randall Terry and the Death of the Republican Party
Organization: -- J/24 -- Racers Home for Programmers
Distribution: alt.politics.clinton
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:49:18 GMT

Michael Lee (michaell@snake16.cs.wisc.edu) writes:
   Ah well....they'll learn with the landslide coming in two and a half weeks....


   Michael Lee
   Clinton/Gore '92 

Will you be so indignant if you lose? A pair of male individuals with an
alternative lifestyle preference (ok, so I'm sucking up to PC :-) came
past me whilst I was doing voter registration and said "Hey! Look! A
urinal! Oh no, it's only Bush/Qualye Voter Registration." They proceeded to
walk around the mall, returned, and posed the avidly intellectual question
"Is this a male or female urinal?"

Y'all keep on shitting on us, and yet we keep on winning the Presidency.

-scottm
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: fox@cs.nyu.edu (David Fox)
Subject: Re: TIME sues Bush/Quayle campaign
Organization: Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences
	<1992Oct14.154457.4793@desire.wright.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:14:46 GMT
X-Posted-From: graphics.cs.nyu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Oct14.154457.4793@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:

   In article <Bw3BKC.FsD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl) writes:
   > Well, it's official.
   > 
   > I just saw the article come across the clarinews feed here.  Time
   > magazine is suing the Bush campaign for copyright infringement (I
   > think) because of the overuse of Time's cover story on Clinton.
   > 
   > I would repost the article, but I'm not a Republican.  I try and
   > respect the copyright rights of others.  ;)

	TIME will lose this one.  (In the ad I saw) TIME is clearly shown, thus
   no conflict over where the picture came from.

The question isn't failure to acknowledge the source, it is
the fact that Bush/Quayle stole the image (and the trademark).
I believe that that this type of behavior is exactly what they
pretend to be so upset with the East Asian Gucci and Rolex
knock off manufacturers.
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Perot's $$$
Date: 13 Oct 1992 18:27:44 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu


 >Perot competed for those contracts along with larger companies than his.
 >The reason he got the contract was because he saved more money for the
 >govt.  Or are you saying that it is alright for IBM to rape the govt but
 >not EDS.

True HRP did compete for the Gov. jobs BUT there were several that are
being investigated where he was NOT the low bid on the contract and 
it was awarded to Perot anyway. This contract was the one for the 
FFA Air trafic control system contract. He is part of the pac system
he's running against, to say he's a outsider, well thats a total lie.




-- 
Timothy B. Reynolds
CLINTON/GORE
Election Campaign '92
Houston, Tx
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Been to Arkansas lately?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 14:17:55 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <BvvwCG.MrH@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hartlemp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael P Hartley) writes:
>IMHO:
 >
 >   I just returned from a trip to Ark. and would like to let those who haven't
 >been there know what 'Clintonomics' has done.  It seems the most flourishing 
 >businesses are flea markets.  All the antiquated farm equipment reminded my 
 >folks of what they used back in the 50's.  There were abandoned houses and 
 >farms all along the back roads.  It may be true that there has been a growth 
 >of jobs in the state, but they must be $2/hr stuff.  
 >

Yes I spent over a week there in Sept. I got the other impression, 
construction was going on everywhere, the number on businesses building
offices and factories was a sign of a state that was atracting new business.
The trip through Texas (my State) was more depressing to me. Arkansas was 
very clean and the people I met in small towns were very friendly to us.
We also went hiking for 5 days, every area we visited was very clean
and well maintained. The Buffalo river was also very clean and unspoiled
unlike most places I have hiked. Arkansas has done a good job of promoting
it's self as a nice tourist location, hiking, fishing, hunting and many
other things to do. We drove the backroads highways and went into the 
cities. Over all I liked what I saw, every state has some problems 
but I think Arkansas was a very nice place and I will go back again.
The people of Arkansas I talked with had a positive attitude and most
all supported their Gov. and they don't take very well to being called
a failed state. 

Cities I visited on this trip:
Texarkana
Hope 
Arkadelphia
Little Rock
Hot Springs 
Ponca
Jasper    (Sat at the town square most of the day talking with people)
Harrison
Eurika Springs
Clarksville 
Russellville  



-- 
Timothy B. Reynolds
CLINTON/GORE
Election Campaign '92
Houston, Tx 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht)
Subject: Re: Debate thoughs
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: Not very organized
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:24:15 GMT

Since this first debate is going to be a panel of reporters, is
George going to come up with some excuse to avoid the remaining
debates?
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht)
Subject: Re: Cable TV Bill
Reply-To: nobody
Organization: not very organized
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:47:26 GMT

rogers@ial1.jsc.nasa.gov (mister rogers) writes:

>In article <BvrH3A.8s8@oryx.com>, xdedcj@atom.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (dave c jarzabek) writes:
>> 
>> ...
>>
>> I'm willing to bet anyone who wants to that my rates will increase
>> for the same service now that the gov'ment has their fingers in it.
>> 
>> Any takers?
>> 
>> Lets hear it for more government regulations!!
>                       ^
>                  Democratic (<--not sarcasm, Bill favors the bill)

Keep in mind that it also took some Republicans in congress to over-ride
Bush's veto.
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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.marrou,alt.politics.correct
Subject: Re: Legislation of morality
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:17:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Oct2.183622.21613@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.162334.14459@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>>Please Dave, educate me about the true nature of the problem.  Please 
>>include your understanding of the facts that the surest way to avoid 
>>AIDS is to avoid promiscuity (esp. gay sex) and needle swapping.
>>
>>Safe sex is only one thing...sex...it is not safe.
>
>Lordy.  Sex is still safer than driving a car to a supermarket. If 
>your sex partners are uninfected, AIDS isn't going to spontaneously 
>generate just because you're violating someone's subjective standard 
>of morality.

Ted, unsafe sex is still safer than driving a car to a supermarket.  
Get a clue and get on topic.

Ted


-- 
"Vote Democrat.  It's easier than getting a job."

krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re:  Limbo George and the Limbo-ettes
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:23:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange

A new name for Georgie Boy:

You've heard of the Chicken, but that's become passe.

Now it's time for..."Limbo George, and his Limbo Candidacy."

Yes, limbo's the word:  
                         It describes his economic policy;
                         It describes the state of the nation;
                         and
			 It describes how he runs his campaign:
                         "How *low* can *you* go?"
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Subject: Re: If you dump Bush, dump Congress too, (at least.)
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:01:24 GMT

curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 
  512-838-2806) writes:

> [ anti-Bush sentiments ]
>
>These sentiments are understandable.  But if you're honest you have to
>agree that Congress is at least part of the problem.  And if they're
>part of the problem, then shouldn't sending them home be part of the
>solution also?

Hey, I -like- my Congressperson.  It's the -other- Congresspeople who
should be sent home!  I'm sure most people will agree with me.

>You say you don't even know your representive's name?  Don't worry,
>you'll recognize it when you see it.
>
>Just keep this simple rule in mind:
>
>	If the name on the ballot looks pretty familiar, 
>		DON'T VOTE FOR HIM!

			. . . OR HER!

>curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com (Curt L. Finch) | AIX NFS/NIS Field Quality 


-- 
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 c-OO                                                                      
    \                     "Big Science.  Hallelujah"
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From: hartlemp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Michael P Hartley)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Been to Arkansas lately?
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:31:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

IMHO:

   I just returned from a trip to Ark. and would like to let those who haven't
been there know what 'Clintonomics' has done.  It seems the most flourishing 
businesses are flea markets.  All the antiquated farm equipment reminded my 
folks of what they used back in the 50's.  There were abandoned houses and 
farms all along the back roads.  It may be true that there has been a growth 
of jobs in the state, but they must be $2/hr stuff.  

   (We only saw most of the northern part of the state, so this may only apply
    to that area).

   My mother, who doesn't really watch these kind of shows, said it looked like
an end-of-the-world movie (mad max, ect...)

   Now, anybody from there like to comment?

BTW- this post may be flame-bait, but true...


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