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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: The Muppet Christmas Carol
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:06:46 GMT
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

lennon@ac.dal.ca writes:

>I just saw this movie last night. I had forgotten how funny these people are,
>not having seen the muppet show for such a long time.

I was flipping channels the other night and someone was showing the Muppet
TV special they did a few years back that included the Sesame street and
Fraggle Rock gang as well. Took me back to the days when I used to watch
them compulsively and enjoy every minute of it.

And then at the end, Jim Henson came out and put on an apron to start
washing the dishes for the gang, and I realized just how much we lost.
Depressed me for the rest of the night. 

Bye, Jim. We miss you.

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                       Sterling Holloway: We'll miss you.
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Test
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:44:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Did we pass?  Did you?  :-)

That's all for 1992.  Until 1993, have a happy holiday season, go see
Aladdin, God bless, and have a Disney day!  
Linda
-- 
"But the angel said to them, 'Do not be afraid.  I bring you good news of great
joy that will be for all the people.  Today in the town of David a Savior has
been born to you;  he is Christ the Lord."---Luke 2:10-11
**********************MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS************************
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey Flicks and Shorts- Post Walt
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:34:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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He was in "The Prince and the Pauper" in 1990, which was released with
The Rescuers Down Under in theaters.  Pretty good short, IMHO.  It also
had Goofy and Pluto in supporting roles.  
Linda
-- 
"But the angel said to them, 'Do not be afraid.  I bring you good news of great
joy that will be for all the people.  Today in the town of David a Savior has
been born to you;  he is Christ the Lord."---Luke 2:10-11
**********************MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS************************
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: That Australian Disney poster
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:52:50 GMT

I finally went to the newsagents and had a look a the poster that
Richard Wiffen (swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au, receive only) has been
mentioning on this group.  To add to his description, it's in landscape
orientation, about the same shape as an 8.5 by 11 inch piece of paper
(only lots bigger!).  The "ear-shaped" stickers (that's how they are
named on the pack) that go round the edge (of which there are 42) are
*really* shaped like a silhouette of Mickey's head - i.e. they are
shaped like one circle with two smaller circles at the "north-east" and
"north-west" corners.  The stickers, which are about 8 by 6 cm, come in
packs of 7, but randomly, so you'll need to buy more than 6 packs to get
the entire set.  As for the picture in the middle of the poster, it
features a veritable jungle of Disney characters, mostly the classics
(i.e. Mickey, Goofy, etc), dancing down some street (it's difficult to
tell, there's so little of it visible).  I didn't particularly like it
to be honest, but it's probably perfectly all right for a child.  It's
*very* cluttered.  The stickers themselves make little impact on the
whole picture.

The other poster Richard mentioned was a portrait-orientation one, with
a very big Mickey in the middle and along both sides screen shots from
about 20 films.  Shots include: From "The Rescuers": Bernard being held
aloft by one of Medusa's alligators; From "The Little Mermaid": Ariel
hiding on the ship while Eric plays the snarfblat [no Freudian remarks,
please!]; From "The Fox and the Hound": The main characters cavorting about
a fallen log; and so on.  The stickers of the screen shots apparently
come with the stickers for the other poster and are quite a lot larger
(they seem to be 11 by 8 cm, at a guess).  I might be wrong here.

For those in Australia who remember a Disney poster about six months
ago featuring stickers (star-shaped ones this time), the artwork in the
new poster is *much* better.  The fact that Americans never saw this one
will probably mean they won't see the new one either.  (It came from the
same marketing firm.)

If anyone in foreign parts is utterly desperate to get this poster, mail
me (before Wednesday unless you want to wait till after the New Year),
but remember, although the poster is A$4.00 and the stickers are A$0.14
each, postage and bank charges will make it quite pricey indeed.
You can also email Richard @ the address I gave above, but he won't be
able to reply to you personally.

Tim Pickett
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: b&tb a remake?!?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 07:06:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1992Dec14.204611.21766@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923288@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>My friend lives in Florida and some of her best friends work as characters
>at WDW. They, and her mother,all claim that there was an earlier version 
>of Beauty&the Beast made in the fifties, and that they just revamped it. I 
>don't agree- if anything it had to have been a film short, but was it ever
>a full-length feature before 1991? Please let me know-  I would be so 
>disappointed to learn that it's true

There was no Disney feature film named "Beauty and the Beast" in the
1950's.  I'm no definitive source, but I think you can relax.
Perhaps your friend may be thinking of Jean Cocteau's film, which
was made before the 50's, I think.  Disney's Beauty and the Beast is
certainly not a revamping of that film.

Here's some trivia, as long as I'm posting on this subject:

Around 1982-1984 or so, Don Bluth announced that he'd make an
animated Beauty and the Beast, but he never went through with it.  I
wonder how that would have turned out....  Hey, that might've meant
that Disney would not have made their--"our"-- BatB.  Heavens! 8-O

Walt Disney considered adapting The Little Mermaid to animation
circa the 1940's.  But with all of the financial difficulties imposed
by World War II and the technical difficulties of animating under
water (that is, CHARACTERS under water :-) ), the idea was dropped.


- Robert Cook
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From: alee@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Albert J Lee)
Subject: some graphics questions...
Summary: questions on graphics utilities...
Keywords: jpg,fli,graphics,animation,gif
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:15:11 GMT

     I was looking through the ftp site "garfield.catt.ncsu.edu" and found many
interesting GIFs from recent Disney films...

     I wanted to know if anyone knows where I can find shareware to display 
".FLI" and ".JPG" files from some of the directories!

     Thanks!

Albert (alee@magnusug.acs.ohio-state.edu)
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid rated X???
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:57:11 GMT

In <1992Dec12.084949.24373@leland.Stanford.EDU> pyramus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Brooks Meador) writes:

>the little mermaid is filled with phallic symbols.  one of the professors here actually gives a lecture on the entire phallic nature.  there's a lot more than just the genital on the poster.  

>the main symbol is ursulla and her quest to become male.  she has eight limp appendages, and constantly strives to attain triton's long, hard rod that shoots things out.  once she gets this, she expands in size, and is finally destroyed by being penetrated by an even larger phallus.  its quite entertaining to watch the whole movie from this perspective.  you should all try it.

I really think psychologists should get out more. . .

Quetzal aka Tim Pickett
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From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: tlm: ariel model info
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:03:22 -0800
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <cindy.174@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham) writes:
> [Stuff about Sheeri Stoner, TTA writer and boos-person, being a character
>  reference for Ariel in THE LITTLE MERMAID deleted]
>
>Does anyone know Sherri Stoner's hometown?  An acquaintance told me
>that a girl she went to high school with was the model for Ariel.
>"Yeah, right", thought I.  Anyway, the acquaintance went to school
>somewhere in Santa Ana.

  I dunno Ms. Stoner's home town (Jenny?), but there's a good chance. Figure
that Sherri (gee, I hardly know her in person, and we're on a first-name
basis  B-) lives in Southern Californa, probably near Burbank, so she can bop
down to Warner Animation to write/direct/work as needed.

  Santa Ana is a suburb of Southern California, about...oh, 50 miles southeast
of Burbank (about an hour or so drive on the freeways here). So saying Sherri
grew up in Santa Ana, then commutes to Burbank, is not implausible.

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:24:20 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid rated X???
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: 

pyramus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Brooks Meador) writes concerning
the a professor's analysis of phallic symbols in The Little Mermaid:

>the main symbol is ursulla and her quest to become male.  she has eight
>limp appendages, and constantly strives to attain triton's long, hard
>rod that shoots things out.  once she gets this, she expands in size,
>and is finally destroyed by being penetrated by an even larger phallus. 
>its quite entertaining to watch the whole movie from this perspective. 
>you should all try it. 

Yeah, Idaho State University has one of those professors, too.  My wife
had the joy of taking Literature from him.  I bet you didn't know that
everything written in the history of the English language has something
to do with Sex, Religion, or The South -- often involving a combination
of these three.  Most enlightening.

ISU's professor has tenure, so nothing can be done about it, though,
except to try to avoid his classes.  I wonder if this professor has
tenure.

Sheesh.

Geoff

-- 
Geoff Allen          \  Disneyland is going to be a place where you can't
uunet!pmafire!geoff   \  get lost or tired unless you want to.
geoff@pauling.inel.gov \                    -- Walt Disney, 1953
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From: josh@meth.osf.org (Joshua Goldman)
Subject: Staying on/off site WDW Dec 19-22?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:01:53 GMT

I'm going to WDW from Dec 19 to 22.  Right now I have reservations
at Quality Inn Main Gate West (4.5 miles from main gate) and the
Carribean Beach Resort on WDW.  We need two rooms for my family so
the cost differential is about $300.

4.5 miles isn't much but if there will be a traffic jam
getting into WDW, I should probably pay the extra money.  I guess that
if the I could know the time to get to WDW, I'd make the following decisions:

   Hotel to Parking Spot	Stay

	20 minutes		offworld
	30 minutes		probably offworld, but I'm wavering
	40 minutes or mor	onworld

I need to cancel one reservation by tomorow, 12/16, so if you have opinions about
the hastle of staying off world or whether it will be extra jammed packed during
this time, please let me know.  

I had thought that while this time would be crowded, it wouldn't be as bad
as the following week.  Too bad we have to take our vacations when the
kids are out of school.

I will have a rental car because I'm traveling to Palm Beach after WDW.
-- 
Joshua Goldman josh@osf.org 617-621-8857
Open Software Foundation
11 Cambridge Center
Cambridge, MA 02142
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Dysfunctional Disney
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:29:10 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

I was moderately following the Little Mermaid Rated X thread when I came
accross this article in Entertainment Weekly by Dakota Lane.  Reprinted
without anything resembling permission from Entertainment Weekly Number
149, December 18, 1992:

		  Dysfunctional Disney

So Disney is the bastion of family values, huh?  Has anyone else noticed
that, from Aladdin on down, the parent-child relationships in Disney's
animated adventures tend to be troubled enough to qualify for discussion
on Oprah or Sally Jessy Raphael?  Here's a scorecard for the dysfunctional
Disney familes.

Aladdin (1992)
  Character:  Princess Jasmine
  Caretaker:  The Sultan
  Prominent Characteristics:  Abnormally short, white-haired, bushy eyebrowed
    pudgy, ineffectual but lovable space case.
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Cinderella complex - she's waiting for
    her prince to come.

Beauty and the Beast (1991)
  Character:  Belle
  Caretaker:  Father
  Prominent Characteristics:  See Aladdin
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Displays codependency

The Little Mermaid (1989)
  Character:  Ariel
  Caretaker:  Father
  Prominent Characteristics:  White-bearded giant with messianic complex
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Grandiose refusal to accept in-born
    limitations, latent waterphobia

Peter Pan (1953)
  Character:  Peter Pan
  Caretaker:  None (orphan)
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Peter Pan syndrome - inability to grow
    up

Cinderella (1950)
  Character:  The Prince
  Caretaker:  Father
  Prominent Characteristics:  See "The Sultan"
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Foot fetish

Alice In Wonderland (1951)
  Character:  Alice
  Caretaker:  Sister
  Prominent Characteristics:  Barely Present
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Borderline personality disorder, prone
    to hallucinations, substance abuser

Bambi (1942)
  Character:  Bambi
  Caretaker:  Mother
  Prominent Characteristics:  Loving and nurturing, until she's murdered
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Oedipus complex

Dumbo (1941)
  Character:  Dumbo
  Caretaker:  Mother
  Prominent Characteristics:  Loving, until she's locked up
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Chronic insecurity

Pinocchio (1940)
  Character:  Pinocchio
  Caretaker:  Gepetto
  Prominent Characteristics:  White-haired, with a soft touch; spends much
    of his time with inanimate objects
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Habitual liar

Snow White (1937)
  Character:  Snow White
  Caretaker:  Seven dwarves
  Prominent Characteristics:  Sleepy, sneezy, happy, dopey...
  Character's Resulting Neurosis:  Sleep disorder indicating clinical depres-
    sion; possible latent multiple personality syndrome.


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From: mross@crowe.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: People in ToonTown
Date: 20 Dec 92 10:23:56 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles


I just saw ToonTown on tv this evening.  It looks like a relaxing 
place to walk around during a crowded afternoon.

The 30 second clip was part of CBS's broadcast of Disney's
holiday ice skating show.
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: lea salonga
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:42:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Dec17.203454.26918@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923288@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>In response to Jan P.'s comment, Lea Salonga did win the Tony for 
>Miss Saigon, which leads me to wonder: if she's a good enough actress 
>to win a Tony (which she is), and she has a beautiful speaking voice, in
>addition to her singing voice, why didn't she play Jasmine throughout
>the film, and not just when she sang "A Whole New World" (my new favorite 
>song)? Is it because it was too expensive in addition to Robin Williams'
>salary? Please get back to me- I'm dying to know.

According to various sources, Aladdin and Jasmine didn't have
singing parts when the voice actors were cast.  The voice actors are
not singers, and I guess that Disney also wanted to capitalize on Lea
Salonga's recent success.  In any case, she has a *slight* accent
(which would not have posed a problem, IMHO).  

What I really wonder is why Disney made that awful Bryson/Belle duet
of A Whole New World at the end of the movie.  I just heard it on the
radio, and gosh, it sounds much worse than in the theater.  Instead
of the wonderful feeling we get from the song as sung by Aladdin and
Jasmine, we're treated to a protracted earache as Bryson and Belle
mercilessly attempt to outscream one another.  I found it hard to
believe, but Belle actually outscreamed Bryson.  At least Bryson's
voice held together.  But who cares?  I turned it off.


- Robert Cook
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Seeking THE LITTLE MERMAID on VHS...
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:05:38 EST

In article <BzEs8r.F33@apollo.hp.com>
rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer) writes:
 
>
>I know it's a long shot, but...
>
>A coworker is looking for this Disney title on VHS tape.  (Thanks, I've
>got my copy on laserdisc.)  Is there perhaps anyone out there who's
>[a] seen a VHS copy of this lurking in some dusty local bin, or [b] has
>a copy they'd sell?  ([b] may not be too farfetched, I hope; I bought
>a copy on VHS until the LD was released, but mine's long since been
>sold...  I guess I'm hoping to find a procrastinator... :-)
>
>Thanks if you can help.  (Suggestions that I make a tape copy of my disc
>aren't helpful.)
>
>--
 
    There was an article in the New York Times today about the prices of
discontinued Disney tapes.  Little Mermaid was quoted as "charging upto
$100."  I've seen the tapes being sold for $70.
    In my opinion, (and I'm NOT advocating this, but...) perhaps the way
to go is to start an "underground" system of pirating the tapes, to
force Disney to realize that there is  unmet market demand out here.
Of course the downside of this plan is that while Disney may be forced to
re-release the tapes and LDs of all the previously released films, they
may no longer release the other films...
     Junsok Yang
From: VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: 'Pinocchio' is headed for laser
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:37:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  
                        'Pinocchio' is headed for laser
   
      Image Entertainment will release Walt Disney's classic animated
   "Pinocchio" on laserdisc March 26, day-and-date with the videocassette, the
   company announced Thursday -- the same day Image announced its long-standing
   exclusive license and distribution deal with Orion Home Video through Dec.
   31, 1995.
   
      Image said Thursday it intends to release all 10 of Orion's new completed
   feature films, including "Love Field," starring Michelle Pfeiffer.
   
      Image's day-and-date laserdisc and videocassette release of "Pinocchio"
   is similar to the November 1991 release of "Fantasia."  "Beauty and the
   Beast" was first released as a work in progress.
   
      The "Pinocchio" laser features restored footage and a new audio track.
   
      Also in 1993, Image will release Disney Exclusive Archive Collection
   lasers.  The first two will be "Mary Poppins" and "20,000 Leagues Under the
   Sea," which will be in stores in February.

 - snopes

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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: Question - Voices
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:41:15 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>
>>>             Lumiere -------------- somebody Orbach (Jeremy?)
>>
>>JERRY Orbach was in the early 80's Broadway production of 42nd Street.  He
>>was also the villain in F/X with Bryan Brown and Brian Dennehy.

>He was also the Wall in The Fantasticks, the father in DIRTY DANCING,
>the brother-in-law in CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS, a cop in PRINCE OF THE
>CITY, and a scandalous number of other roles that I'm sure I'm
>forgetting.  He's a fantastic actor.

I can't remember if I mentioned this before, but I think his first
voice acting job was as Captain Zachary Foxx on Adventures of the
Galaxy Rangers circa 1986.

LJC 
-- 
Lady Johanna Constantine | "When you remove the pin, Mr Hand
tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu    |  Grenade is no longer your friend"
Founder of the Church of Our Lady of the Perpetually Clueless
Disclaimer: The U of I doesn't give a damn or blast WHAT I do
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From: wallace@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Glenn Wallace)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Hidden Mickey update
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:03:11 GMT
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia

sroka@evax.gdc.com writes:

>the left) having lunch with Donald Duck..  Interestingly, ALSO in the 
>heiroglyphics, directly  across from Indiana Jones, you can find 
>C-3PO and R2-D2 carved in stone. There is also a very small 

These were present on the original movie set.

Glenn

Glenn Wallace (g.wallace@trl.oz.au)  == A Man Without a Country

"Could you please direct me to my own reality? I seem to have misplaced
it...."
From: jcichock@ep.ieee.org (Jeffrey Cichocki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Lea Salonga
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:19:57 GMT
Reply-To: jcichock@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY

Just a little update on Miss Saigon. Both Lea and Jonathon won the tony awards for
their roles in Miss Saigon. 
The big blow up was that the actors union wanted american actors of asian descent
and the producers said they couldn't find actors of equal talent. Ticket pre-sales
totaled over 30 million (a record for broadway) and Cameron MacIntosh, the producer,
threatened to pull the show from the states all together. Compromise was reached
with Jonathon Pryce that he would not be in asian makeup (slanting of the eyes and 
skin color). He didn't need it anyway because he was wonderful. So was Lea. 
I'm very surprised that Lea wasn't asked to sing the pop version of "A Whole New 
World". She definitely deserves the recognition.
By the way, this is my first reply. Before, I could only read the news and not 
respond. Watch out world.
Thanks for listening!!!   Jeff Cichocki 
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