HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Computer theft
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:09:56 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <1993Jan3.050838.29514@netcom.com>, bml@netcom.com (Brian 
Leibowitz) writes:
> A programmer at a bank changed the interest calculations on accounts
> to round down instead of rounding to the nearest penny.  All the fractions
> of pennies were put in a dummy account and then withdrawn.  The bank did
> not notice for a while because the amount of interest paid was still correct
> and the books balanced.
> After the programmer was caught, the bank pressed charges.  The defense
> was that the programmer did not steal from the bank and thus the bank
> had no right to press charges - the depositors as a group would have
> had to press the charges.  The courts agreed and the programmer was
> found not guilty.  The programmer could not be retried due to double
> jeopordy laws.

Sounds like bullshit to me.  Here's why.

The trial had to be either civil or criminal.

If criminal, whether a victim "presses charges" is legally immaterial.  The 
victim, be it bank or depositor, is a "complaining witness".  The party in a 
criminal case is not the victim, it is the state.  The state's ability to 
prosecute is not dependant on the identity of the complaining witness.  (As a 
side note, if a complaining witness does not "press charges", and is not 
cooperative, the prosecution may choose not to prosecute, simply because the 
chances of obtaining a conviction are lowered.  And that might also be 
enforced by a judge, if the prosecution is for whatever reason _unable_ to 
obtain the victim's testimony, i.e., there might be no reasonable basis in 
law to demonstrate guilt beyond a reasonable doubt without the testimony.  
But that is not at issue here.)

If the trial was civil, then true, the bank would be unable to state a claim, 
and the case would be dismissed.  However, the depositors in this case would 
indeed be able to state a claim.  Double jeapordy does not apply in civil 
cases.  Similar concepts (collateral estoppel and res judicata) do, but 
normally don't apply as to disputes between two different sets of parties 
(i.e., bank v. bad guy and depositors v. bad guy).

Hence, it sounds like bullshit to me.

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: vince@cadence.com (Vince Gibboni)
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:28:48 GMT

bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian SPENCER) writes:
> pwhitman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Philip N Whitman) writes:
>> Can anyone identify a major city for me that does not have a street named
>> after Martin Luther King, Jr.?
>>
>  I assume you mean in the United States. For what it's worth, Montreal
>  does not.

    Which leads me to the follow-up question: Can anyone identify a major 
    city for me that does not have a street named after John F. Kennedy 
    (Montreal does). I'm not sure about London, although, oddly enough,
    I seem to remember hearing that there is one in Moscow...
    

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                                                         vince@gda.cadence.com
  
    Let's face it, we just don't need two Dakotas.
        - Dave Barry
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From: kasprj@sage4a.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Life Imitates AFU: Gang Member Loses Head in L.A.
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:59:12 GMT

In article <1ihat6INNlip@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE>, anno4000@zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel) writes:
|> 
|> Don't know if it happened though I figure it *could* have.
 
 Yes, folks, it's another motto nomination.
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From: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: 9-1-1, football pool
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:34:25 EST
Reply-To: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

F.  Someone was unable to make an emergency call because they
    couldn't dial the "11" in 9-1-1.


Well, I  *witnessed* an analagous event just as unbelievable, and
if it happened...then there is no reason to believe that above has
not occurred.



A friend of mine purchased a square in a football pool. 

(The kind which utilizes a 10 x 10 grid and can be found in most
U.S. offices, bars, etc.  Especially around the time of the super bowl)

The only problem was that he did not know how it worked. I explained
to him the details, how the exact score did not matter, only the 
values of the last digits of each team's score. For example, his square
was Denver 0, San Francisco 4. I told him that he would win if the
final score were San Fran 35 Denver 20, or  San Fran 25 Denver 0, etc. 
He then asked me, "But what happens if Denver wins???"  I became somewhat
exasperated, but after some additonal effort, I managed to make him
understand how the pool functioned. (or so I thought)

During the game, he had no problem seeing who was in line
to win the pool's prizes, that is until San Francisco's score went
into double digits. Then he called me, because he couldn't find the
"14" in the pool.    
                                      Al
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From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: The Fame Game
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <C0rAtC.35K@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:27:36 GMT

mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James) writes:
>I knew Steve Gorman, drummer of the Black Crowes
>back in high school.

Anyone who needs a comma after his name, telling us who he is,
is not famous.  Examples of beings who don't need commas would be
Jesus
Noah
Nixon
Kibo
YuNoHoo

well, you get the point.

ObUL: Young love, Home Cooking and MIT. The 3 most overrated things on earth.

Jon "Why?" Papai
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From: bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler)
Subject: Re: Druggie Post-teens suck pacifiers (Nuk-Nuk!)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:19:50 GMT

In article <1iq2ttINNsr8@shelley.u.washington.edu> starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky) writes:
>jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>I suspect that perhaps a small fraction of the pacifier-sucking kids are
>involved with drugs, and the rest just do it cause it's "cool."  Not that
>I claim to understand the kids that think looking like a baby is way nifty
>neato, but I think the actual drug-users in this group, if any, are few.

2 years ago my roommate turned me on to acid.  He had a 'binky' (brand
name of his pacifier).  We all thought it was cool and everyone got
one.  Frankly, I'm disappointed to see 2 different articles making
reference to it in Newsweek in December.  I thought it was a *very*
local phenomenon--not some crazy/out_of_control/rich_kid/freak thing
that is big enough to make Newsweek a couple of times....  I love my
nuk-nuk to death, but now I'm just a 'normal kid' in Newsweeks eyes!
-- 
-brian

bhostetl@ucs.indiana.edu          |      "Even if the brain is removed,
bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu   |     the insekt continues to live..."
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From: pjdm@chmeee.enet.dec.com (Peter Mayne)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Fronti
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:38:55 GMT
Reply-To: Peter.Mayne@cao.mts.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec31.032023.12377@zooid.guild.org>, Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>>Maybe 'Lost in Space' wasn't better after all
>
>>Yes it was!  After all, Martin Landau and Barbara Bain were married in
>>real life,

But Martin Landau and Barbara Bain were in "Space: 1999", not Lost in Space.
They also had parts in "Mission: Impossible". Amazing coincidence;
"Space: 1999", "Mission: Impossible", Martin Landau, and Barbara Bain *all*
have colons.

ObUL1: Nuclear waste will cause the moon to be thrown out of orbit and travel
light-years in a few hours.
ObUL2: The green is radioactivity, not cheese.

PJDM
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Subject: Atheists and the FCC
From: smith+@cs.cmu.edu (Sean Smith)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:27:53 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Keywords: FCC, ankle-slashing
Summary: holiday UL report


In a brief two-day visit (as opposed to those really long two-day visits) to
my parents for New Years, I had the questionable fortune to encounter not
one but TWO urban legends, fervently believed by my mother.

UL 1: The first item was an Nth generation photocopied note urging people to
clip off the bottom half and mail it to the FCC to prevent Ms. O'Hair and
company from banning religious broadcasting.    This note differed from the
earlier versions I've heard about in two ways: it mentioned ``FCC Petition
#2493,'' and it also expressed concern about banning mention of Christmas in
various public school activities.  (This latter business has indeed occurred
in some locations, if we can trust the mass media, but has nothing to do
with the FCC.)

My mother was not easily convinced of the ULness of this letter.  REQUEST:
does anyone in AFUland have a definitive but polite rebuttal of this UL,
preferably from the FCC or someone equally authoritative, that I can forward
to her?


UL 2: Apparently the under-car-hiding ankle-slashing villain found a 
victim at the Oxford Valley Mall (in Bucks County, Pennsyvlania, northeast of 
Philadelphia).


--Sean ``this is my mother you're talking about'' Smith

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From: klg@panda.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer -- rjj)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing street names
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:39:11 GMT
Organization: Duke University, Nuclear Medicine

In article <C0DJJJ.A46@NeoSoft.com> arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>There's a few of those around here.
>
>When I drive to Galveston with out of town guests, I like to point out
>the Fuqua exit sign and ask them how they think it might be pronounced.
>
  Amazing - it might be a clone of our own Fuqua-Varina, or vice-versa.  F-Q
has long been the butt of local jokes for some reason.  I've been through
the beautiful, high-rent downtown district and it seemed pretty normal to
me.  Or maybe THAT explains it.

>There's San Felipe, which half the people pronounce "San FILL i pee" and the
>other half indignantly pronounce "San Fuh LEE pay."

  When I lived in Charlotte, we would sometimes drive over to Waxhaw
(pronounced "wack-saw").  Probably some Indian name or something - there
were lots of them in the area many moons ago.

ObUL:  People have been known to enter the infamous Waxhaw Triangle, exiting
from it hours or even days later, apparently without incident.

>Stephanie "It's 'FYOO quay'" da Silva

k "I heard Elvis singing Blue Suede Shoes when he should have been wearing them" g


-- 
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Durham, NC 27710  		         fax: 919-681-5636
From: jonathan@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: SNAFU list
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:09:41 GMT

I seem to remember someone on here looking for a list like this a while
ago.  It's the most comprehensive I've yet found: 

COMMFU		complete monumental military fuck up
FUBAR		fucked up beyond all recognition
		fucked up beyond all repair
FUBB		fucked up beyond belief
FUMTU		fucked up more than usual
G.F.U.		general fuck up
IMU		imperial military fuck up
JAAFU		joint Anglo-American fuck up
JACFU		joint American-Chinese fuck up
JANFU		joint Army-Navy fuck up
M.F.U.		military fuck up
		monstrous fuck up
NABU		nonadjustable balls-up
SABU		self-adjusting balls-up
SAMFU		self-adjusting military fuck up
SAPFU		surpassing all previous fuck ups
SNAFU		situation normal, all fucked up
SNEFU		situation normal, everything fucked up
SNRAFU		situation normal, really all fucked up
SUSFU		situation unchanged, still fucked up
TABU		typical army balls-up
TAFUBAR		things are fucked up beyond all recognition
TARFU		things are really fucked up
TASFUIRA	things are so fucked up it's really amazing
T.C.C.FU	typical coastal command fuck up

Source:	Slang and Euphemism
	Richard A. Spears
	Signet 1982

To this list I would (modestly) add:

CHASFU		co-ordinated hardware and software fuck up


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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Trademarkability of personal names (Was: Re: Babe Ruth Candy Bar)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:20:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.064222.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> djcoll04@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>> In article <1993Jan11.054625.29384@athena.mit.edu> cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok) writes:
>>>i believe that this (or a related) law doctrine is the reason why you
>>>rarely see players' real names in computer sports games. the players'
>>>associations own the rights to the use of the names. so you can't
>>>just write a baseball game and put as oakland's firstbaseman "M. McGwire".
>>>
>>>i *did* however once see a football game where all the players' numbers 
>>>were accurate, so i guess that is fair game. 
>
>Well, one baseball example where they use REAL names and REAL stats
>is Tony Larussa'a Ultimate Baseball.  

That program found it worthwhile to pay the licensing fee to the MLBPA.

An interesting controversy arose in the NBA when Michael Jordan decided
that he wanted his likeness to be negotiated separately from the
blanket license that the Players' Association could grant, but I think
some sort of compromise was granted.
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From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Man pays for college with pinball
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:39:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1993Jan11.040334.25873@tc.cornell.edu>,
kutcha@eos.acm.rpi.edu (Phillip Rzewski) writes:

>In article <1993Jan11.032506.28776@Princeton.EDU>
>datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU David Aaron Tepper) writes:
>>It's worse than that. You know those "for entertainment purposes only"
>>blurbs on the cabinets of pinball machines? What that means is, if
>>you've been playing for hours and get 10 credits, and the place of
>>business then closes, the operator doesn't have to (or can't--I'm
>>a tad fuzzy on the proper modal here) pay you for the credits you've
>>earned.

>Now wait a second here. I'm just as skeptical on this one as anyone
>else, but I get the feeling that the "for entertainment purposes only"
>is to say "you're not allowed to gamble on it". So 5 guys in a bar
>couldn't put down $20 on whether or not a guy could score a million.
>Whatever.

>But if an arcade felt like paying its customers, there's certainly no
>law against it.

They had this discussion over in rec.games.pinball some time ago. If
I'm remembering this correctly, putting in $.25 at the arcade and
receiving $1.50 for credits _is_ gambling. That's why you can only
get credits and not quarters when you score a replay.

Corrections/flames from anyone at r.g.p. appreciated.

Ummm, my editor's really screwy. Would someone be kind enough to
cross-post this to rec.games.pinball? Many thanks!

Tep
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From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: Re: Jesus' name (was Re: Late breaking potential UL!)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:33:39 GMT


In article <0aF8wB1w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:

>flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>
>> OB fact: The correct way to spell the possessive of a name in English which
>> ends in an "s" is to append an apostrophe-s, UNLESS the namee is allegedly a
>> god, in which case you just append an apostrophe.  Names I know of in this
>> category are Jesus and Zeus.  I personally would still pronounce the word
>> "Jesus'" as "jesuses".
>
>ObFact? OBFACT? Where are your sources, please? I was always taught to
>write James' dog when I wamted to write about the dog belonging to James.

From The Chicago Manual of Style, paragraph 6.12:

     The possesive case of singular nouns is formed by the addidtion of an
     apostrophe and an s, and the possessive of plural nouns (except for a few
     irregular plurals) by the addition of an appostrophe only:

         the horse's mouth   the puppies' tails   the children's desks

     There is one notable exception to the rule for common nouns, a case
     wherein tradition and euphony dictate the use of the appostrophe only:

         for appearance' (conscience', righteousness', etc.) sake

From paragraph 6.15:

     Proper names.  The general rule covers proper names as well as common,
     including most names of any length ending in sibilants:

     Burns's poems                           General Nogues's troops
     Marx's theories                         Jefferson Davis's home
     Berlioz's opera                         Dickens's novels
     the Rosses' and the Williamses' lands   the Jonses' reputation

From paragraph 6.19:

     Traditional exceptions to the general rule for forming the possessive are
     the names Jesus and Moses:

         in Jesus' name     Moses' leadership


Barth "and if you don't believe that you can kiss my's butt" Richards

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From: dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard)
Subject: Re: Why care what percentage?  (was: Gay Likelihood)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:47:01 GMT


 > Anyone who still thinks AIDS only happens to 'bad' people and
 > 'good' people are safe hasn't been paying attention to public
 > service broadcasts.
 
       I guess I haven't been paying attention to the public service
broadcasts....   Please explain how those of us who don't fool around with
anyone and don't do drugs, etc are going to contract AIDS?  Or has there
been a news release that I missed announcing that AIDS is carried by
misquito bits or something?

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Little Mermaid Video - where's the naughty bit?
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:22:30 GMT

It's in the FAQ - there being a good drawing of a penis on the Little
Mermaid video. Well, I can't find it on the video covers in the UK.
Anybody want to give me guidance as to where it is????

Please reply by email, thanks very much.
Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
"All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power"  A. Brilliant
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.


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From: cthulhu@vipunen.hut.fi (Otto Hyv{rinen)
Subject: Re: AIDS-rapist! (was: Why care what percentage?)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:20:16 GMT

In <1993Jan11.163625.25907@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dsegard@nyx.cs.du.edu (Daniel Segard) writes:

>      I had previously heard that AIDS infected individuals were
>intentionally commiting rape so as to spread AIDS further.  Frankly I had
>previously thought this was a varient of the "AIDS Mary" "Welcome to the
>world of AIDS" sort of urban legend.  Are you passing an urban legend
>here, or do you have any proof that people are spreading AIDS in this
>method?

In Finland there actually was a HIV-positive African immigrant,
who picked up girls at the restaurants and raped them later.
And some of them did get HIV later. 

It was in the papers some months ago, but I have forgotten
all the details. His name was mentioned and even his picture
was in some tabloids. 

Maybe other Finns have better memory.

I remember thinking that it was too good to be true:
a BLACK man raping WHITE girls and he had even HIV! 
That's the stuff ULs are made of!

-- 
 "Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
  the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, << Otto Hyv{rinen, 
  or to grab that old AK-47 and                   Otto.Hyvarinen@hut.fi >>
  blow those bastards sky high."
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Rush!Rush!Rush!
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:31:29 GMT
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

92636828s@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:
  +
  +> Any Rush fans around?????

walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes:
  +
  +Yeah, and what ever happened to Styx?

Yeah, and Journey, and REO Speedwagon, and Andy Gibb?


Terry "Does anybody know the name of some BAD groups?" Chan
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From: alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz)
Subject: One more for the FAQ
Cc: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:34:13 GMT


Add to the science section of the FAQ

F. 10% of the population are homosexuals.
   [The origin of the figure is a missaplication of a 1930's study]


Recent studies say 3-5% of men are homosexuals, and about half as many 
for women.



Alex






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Waterloo, Ontario                                                   Canada
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