From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois)
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:51:25 GMT

mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:

>Daniel DuBois says:

>>Well... how about this... I buy all these vinyl records for my new
>>DJ equipment... but I cant listen to my music in the car now... or bring
>>it with me on a picnic... portable CD players are nice, I have one...
>>I also have about 200 CDs, half of em hip house..  Id like to think
>>it would make a good base to start from for buying music.. I want to DJ
>>becuz I love the music, vinly does that part of my person no good.
>>
>>-Dan

>Um, being into dance music (as are most people here, I assume!), I discovered
>a long time ago that if you have a halfway decent turntable and cassette
>deck, it is economical, fun, and often necessary to buy what you want (and
>often can only get) on vinyl and MAKE YOUR OWN TAPES. 
>Advantages to doing this?
>1. Value.  If you look you can find good type II tapes for $2.00-$2.50 each.
>   You can buy vinyl and a blank tape for less than or equal to the cost of
>   the same thing on CD.

Why pay twice to have to copies of the same thing?

>2. Collectibility.  Just because the mall stores don't carry it doesn't mean
>   it is obsolete.  Vinyl will continue to be far more valuable as a dj tool
>   long after CD's become obsolete (and they will, believe me).  It's nice to

I dont think CDs will become obsolete until someone creates a disc, recordable,
perfect quality format.  MD isnt perfect quality.  DCC is tape.

>   have vinyl in your collection... sets you apart from the people
>   brainwashed into thinking cassettes are the way to go ... oops, now it's
>   cd's... oops, next its ... <and it goes on>.
>3. Fun.  Call me crazy, but I love making tapes.  And you can come up with
>   much better compilations on your own than what you could buy, wouldn't you
>   say?  You know what you would like to hear in your car/ walkman/ boom box
>   best.

True, the compilations would be better, but again.. I dont feel a need to
have multiple copies of the same thing... I dont tape my CDs now to make
compilations, and I wouldnt like being FORCED to either.

>4. If you buy vinyl and tape it, you can just play your tapes most of the
>   time and thus your vinyl will remain noise-free (just in case you were
>   about to complain about the sound quality).  If your turntable and tape

Quality still not up to par with CDs.. Not even close.

>   deck are of good quality, your tapes will sound as good as tapes made off
>   of CDs.  I routinely buy 12" singles and tape them on TDK SA-90s with

I dont make tapes off of CDs.

>   Dolby C, using a Sony or Technics deck and a Denon turntable with a high
>   quality cartridge.  The cartridge isn't that important - you can get dj
>   ones at Radio Shack really cheap and they will sound as good, but those
>   require much more weight on the needle than I am comfortable with.
>   I play my tapes in my car, walkman, and boombox at work.  So your only
>   problem that I can see is that you spent all your money on those CDs
>   and now you want to dj with them but you can't pitch change.  Oh well,

The big point of this discussion was to talk about CD mixing equipment.
There exists now CD mixers with pitch change and a bunch of other features
I know nothing about. (Which is why Im asking)

>   lesson learned.  I face that dilemma every time I choose a CD5 over a
>   12", which I do a lot more often than I should.  If I decided to start
>   dj-ing I would be up a creek...  <not being sarcastic>

>My opinion.  Mike.
>-- 
>Mike Brown
>mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
>"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."

Not a bad opinion Mike.
But I still ain't convinced, I just see too many disadvantages to buying
all that vinyl.

-Dan
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