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From: rknop@cco.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: UPloading
Date: 13 Dec 1992 18:35:17 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

amyt@romulus.rutgers.edu (Amy Humphries) writes:

>I have several questions about uploading:

>Note: I am using desterm.

>1.  When I try uploading a text file, all the lines are appended
>together (i.e. no carriage returns).  How can I fix this?

What system are you uploading to?  The problem probably has to do with the
fact that every system in the world uses different conventions for line
terminators.  Some of the ones I know are (CR=Carriage return=$0D, LF=Line feed=$0A):

C=64, 128      :   CR
MS-DOS, VMS    :   CRLF
AmigaDOS, Unix :   LF

There are conversion utilities out there which will change the line
terminators.

Are you already changing between ASCII and PETSCII?  That is anther mess, the
text files on the 64 and 128 having their uppercase and lowercase letters
reversed (sort of).

If you upload with Kermit, uploading files as text files, you can have all of
this taken care of during the transfer.  I don't think that DesTerm's xmodem
(etc.) uploads will take care of any of this.

>2.  I have downloaded some stuff from Qlink, including Mah-jongg.  I
>know it was requested that this stuff be uploaded to an ftp site.  I
>want to know if this is "legal" or will Qlink be upset.

Unless it was in one of the "special" libraries which are for Q-Link members
only, all of the stuff on Q-Link is freely distributable, meaning you can give
it away, upload it to any BBS or ftp site, or any other service you want.

>2b.  What ftp site should I put them on?

You can stick it in /pub/rknop/INCOMING on ccosun.caltech.edu.  I'll even get
around to cleaning up the site pretty soon here :)

>2c.  Will there be problems similar to that with text files (i.e. read
>question one)?

Perhaps, but not if you are careful to do everything right.  Make sure you
upload everything as "binary."  When doing transfers under xmodem, this will
always happen (but make sure that the terminal program you use is set to do NO
tranlations on the file it sends).  When ftp'ing files, make sure to type
"binary" before getting or putting files from/to ftp sites.

>3.  I also have novaterm9.3 but I don't use it.  Would this be better
>to use for uploading, than desterm?

Unless I am wrong, DesTerm can do everything in the up/download department
that novaterm can.  If you have a 128 and have DesTerm working, there's no
reason why you should try to use NovaTerm.

-Rob
rknop@cco.caltech.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: creating .sda files
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:25:33 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Could someone please give my some step-by-step instuctions for creating
.sda files?

I have a C128, the cs-dos and lharc files, and presumably it's in there
somewhere but I can't find it..... thanks!

Cheers - Kirk

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From:  bigoness@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: raid on bungeling bay
Originator: bigoness@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Oganization:  Purdue University Engineering Computing Center
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: comp.sys.cbm
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:00:17 GMT

In <halsema.724125840@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu> halsema@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave Halsema) writes:

>
>What's really great is when you destroy all 6 factories.
>Raid on Bungeling Bay if one of my all time favorite games!

  I agree, Dave... But can someone tell me what 'FR' means, in the
  bottom right corner?  
 +-------------------------------------------+---------------------------+
 |            Ray Bigonesse                  | "You Will Be Assimilated. |
 | Aerospace Engineering - Purdue University |  Resistance Is Futile."   |
 |        There Can Be Only One.             |         -Locutus of Borg  |
 +-------------------------------------------+---------------------------+
From: amyt@romulus.rutgers.edu (Amy Humphries)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Delay in uploading Mah Jongg
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:03:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I will eventually upload Mah Jongg to rknop's directory, but I deleted
the compress form and have to compress it myself.  It will be in arc
form, instead of sda.  Since I never used arc (or any compressing
program) before, I am having some trouble.  I think I got the idea of
how to use it, unfortunatly the disk I was using ran out of space :-(
I'll post when I've uploaded it.
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From: jlb31348@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim Brain)
Subject: Re: Possible projects for the 64
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:00:29 GMT

kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:

>In article <Bz82Bx.16o@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlb31348@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim Brain) writes:
>>Just wanted to get some input:
>>
>>I have though about some cool (I think) prjects for the 64.  It has been a while
>>since I had mine up and running, but more time next semester has led me to ask:
>>What do think about ...
>>
>>A cheap input/output board for the 64?  (How cheap and what specs do ya want)

>Now that Schnedler Systems has died and stopped selling theirs, that might
>be useful.


I could make one for any computer pretty cheaply.
>>LCD interface for the 64 ?  (640*200*4 gray scales)
>>Multi CPU network ?

>Good hack value. :-)
Well, I have all these Commodore 64 lying around.

>>Interface to the IBM
>>Intercface to the MAC

>RS-232?  What else did you have in mind?

Well, maybe a parallel interface that would be faster.

>>C64 Emulator for Windows in IBM ?

>Nah... all the best programs for the 64 (i.e., GEOS, good games) tend to
>really bang the hardware HARD, and you'd have to emulate the 1541 too.
>Lots of work, not much to be gained.

Well, I still like the 64, and a window in Windows would be cool ?
Maybe, I will work on this myself...

>>LAPTOP 64?

>I think a PCMCIA 64 would be really cool.

Well, that could be arranged.  I was thinking about this:  c64 motherboard,
64 keyboard, LCD screen, REAL 9600 bps modem port.  REAL parallel port. mouse
port.  batteries, and PMCIA card with a RAm Drive, and connector for 1581 or
'41.

>>IBM keyboard interface (I know, Joel Kolstad already di one, but I never got
>>the source for the 8751 chip)

>Actually, mine was for the 8748.  8751's are a lot nicer to program, but
>cost more.  If you do one, let it work with AT keyboards and C-128's --
>there was a lot of demand for this, but I don't have a 128.

Sorry, 8748.  Can you send me the source for the '48.  I got the plans from
you last year, but no source.  I was thinking of using a Motorola HC11.

>>Color for the PET series (and bitmapped graphics) ?

>Interface a SuperVGA card... not too hard. :-)
Nope, not that good!

>>Serial port for the PETs ?
>>Anything for the PETS ?
>>Anything for the C16 ?
>>Anything for the +4
>>VIC to 64 hookup of some kind ?

>Interesting.
Well, it is a start

>						---Joel Kolstad
-- 
Jim Brain                           "If you build it, they will come."
brain@cs.uiuc.edu
Senior, Computer Engineering		         		Field of Dreams
PowerGlove Serial Interface Designer and Co-Project Leader.                     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign       Dox available on request
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From: 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie)
Subject: Re: c64 emulator
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:52:35 GMT

fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:

>But the C64 emulator is not a serious application.  It's just a hack.
>That's why it doesn't work very well.  It doesn't do sound, color, or
>sprites, so is it really a C64?  Not a very good one.

Seeing as the C-64 was just a game machine (essentially) isn't this
emulator sort of a WASTE??  The c-64 has quite good games, at that.  In
fact, some things were better than IBM versions...like Strip Poker  :)   !
The C-64 is essentially 16-color lo-res EGA (as is my example).  Why even
bother?  Somebody mentioned an Amiga emulator for the IBM before?  I
can just imagine what this is like.......BLAH!!!
-Doc

-- 
=============================================================================== The Commodore Amiga 4000 - 24 bit          16,777,216 colors (4096^2)!!         ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Buster: "Say goodnight, Babs."                                                 
Babs  : "Goodnight, Babs."                                                      I'm tiny, I'm toony, and I'm a little looney!                                   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Darren MacKenzie                                                                ("The Doctor")                                                                  890530m@aucs.acadiau.ca
===============================================================================
From: sls16@po.CWRU.Edu (Samuel L. Shank)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: C64 BBSs in Cleve.
Date: 13 Dec 1992 01:05:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Are there any BBSs out there any more in Cleveland?  There used to be tons
of them around.  I have been out of the local BBS scene for 5 years or more
(?) so I'm sure that the ones that I was on are gone.  Does anyone out there
from the Cleveland area remember any of those "groups" that used to exist, 
like TDS (The Dark Side) or any of those?  
Thanks,
-- 
Sam Shank
sls16@po.cwru.edu
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From: "p. colagiacomo" <p..colagiacomo@canrem.com>
Subject: hello to the scene
Reply-To: "p. colagiacomo" <p..colagiacomo@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:09:23 EST

Hey I heard of your name.  I am Prime Eveal/ILS.  I was part of
Illusion.  Are you still in Legend?
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: msmakela@cc.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: RS-232 and POTS
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:59:26 GMT

dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley) writes:

>   First of all, does anyone know how I can install more than 4 pots and
> read in the values on a C-64 or C-128?

Yes, somebody must know that. :-)

The SID chip (Sound Interface Device), 6581, has two A/D converters. The source
of these converters are chosen by a 4066 chip controlled by the CIA (Complex
Interface Adaptor) at $DC00. You could easily add even more potentiometer sources
by adding 4066's outside either controller port.

> Second, I need help in writing a ML file designed to take the readings
> from the 4 joystick port pot pins and send them through at the highest
> speed over the RS-232 port.

Well, forget the RS-232! It is too slow without a real chip like 6551. However,
I think that it could be possible to send the A/D converter readings @2.4kb/s.

The 6581 A/D converters are slow. The optimal procedure is as follows:

select port 1
send potentiometer 2 x&y readings
wait for the transfer to be complete 
(gives plenty of time for the A/D conversion to be done)
read potentiometer (1) x&y values
select port 2
send potentiometer 1 x&y readings
wait for the transfer to be complete
..

The paddle port 1 is selected by setting the uppest bit of $DC00 and port 2 by
setting the uppest but one (or vice-versa, I don't have any documents except
the scematic diagram). According to either Programmer's Reference Guide or to
German User's Guide, this bit-setting should be done in the end of each IRQ
(after reading the keyboard, which alters $DC00), but the IRQ's are of no use
in this application. If the RS232 NMI does not use $DC00, which is highly
probable, you could do this bit-manipulation in the main program, if you just
SEI before the loop.

The potentiometers are read from the SID registers 25 and 26 ($D419 and $D41A).

> Thanks!

You are welcome!
 
> John Dudley

Marko M"akel"a
msmakela@cc.helsinki.fi
From: tonyc@compnews.co.uk (Tony Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Demo Pardy/Denmark 1992
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:29:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Newspaper Services, Howden, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sage.compnews.co.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

The Party 1992, Part II, The Final

OK, information of Denmarks biggest demo pardy yet.

Place:	Aars, Jylland, Denmark
	Messecentret
	Messsevej 1
	DK - 9600 Aars
	Denmark

Start:	Sunday 27th December 1992, 0800 CET
Finish:	Tuesday 29th December 1992,1500 CET

Entrance fee:	120. DK

Event Organisers

C-64:	Camelot
Amiga:	Crystal
	Cronics
	Silents
	Anarchy
	2000AD
PC:	Danish Elite

Competitions
C-64:	Demo/Musix/Graphix/Game
Amiga:	Demo/Musix/Graphix/Intro
PC:	Demo

Prizes

About 3000 DK 1st	These prizes only apply to C-64 demo compo.
      2000 DK 2nd	Other prizes are available for per category.
      1000 DK 3rd
       500 DK 4th

Transport: The only transport i know of is, Goblin of Light will be arranging
	   a bus to the pardy place from Stockholm. Ring him on +46 (171) 56402
	   for further information.

For more information don't contact me but.......

	Camelot Contact:-
	Trix of Camelot
	Mads Nielsern
	Markuej 30
	2660 Brundly Strand
	Denmark
	+45 (435) 41625

If you want to reserve a place then ring Trix and ask him about it.


Information supplied by Maduplec/Crest and Cruzier/Camelot, typed in by me :)

Signed.......... Chief of Padua and illusion

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: schuetz@fm11ap07.tu-graz.ac.at (Alexander Schuetz)
Subject: HELLO TO P.COLAGIACOMO and sorry to the rest, part 2 (:-)
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:29:06 GMT



>Yo dude..  I cant access email on here and I dont have a UNIX system
>with FTP access.  I have never used FTP..  What Unix do you use to get
>files off of?  I am on a IBM board with Usenet and thats how im sending
>messages.  What unix are you using?  Is it a 1800?

Yoho P.Colagiacomo! <grin> (ehm? Stunning name :-)! 
Ohwell I see troubles ahead. You neither have EMAIL access (but can you 
RECEIVE any???) and yer using an IBM board. Hmmmmmm... it still doesn't 
give me enough clues. Well, we here at Technical University Graz are 
using around 50 PC's, 8 of them being 486/33 Mhz, the rest is 286/12 Mhz.
All PC's are tied together in an Ethernet LAN, and are served by a ring 
of seven Apollo's. Dont even ask me for UNIX details, I don't know, I just 
use it. (e.g. "TELNET", "FTP", etc.). If you should need any of the 
net software, let me know. Can we discuss this over the phone, can you 
call out? Derby Ram has my number!

Oh I'm outta business on this net from dec.18th to jan 8th: Holidays, the
computer rooms are closed. Damn sad! 

Someone else already told you the story of how to FTP, I hope it will work
fine for you. I also hope you can convert data from C64 to IBM and back
(e.g. with a 1571 drive, its second disk controller can read and write
PC disks). If so, we can have a bloody cool time out here on the FTP's: 
alot of'em are just waiting to get filled.
Hope to hear from you soon
Later
ALEX!

(and sorry to the rest. Always those struggles with those beginners. Well,
14 days ago I was one myself. :-)

From: ronk@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Ron King)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:12:37 GMT
Subject: Hellcat Aces for C64
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm

    Does anyone have the program and manual for "Hellcat Aces", or something
similar to that for the C64?  It seems to me it was released by Microprose
around 87 - 89 time frame.  I have talked to a Microprose rep, and they do
not have the program available any more.  If you know something about this
please Email me or reply with comment to this posting.  Thanks! 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore)
Subject: Re: no news, just trash!
Reply-To: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:41:17 GMT

sls16@po.CWRU.Edu (Samuel L. Shank) writes:

> 
> How is the 64 expandable to 64 megs and why would you want to do it?
 
Well, it's 24 megs, not 64...it *could* be done by installing a RAMLink 
with 16k, then plugging an 8 meg RAMDrive into that.
 
Didnt say you would WANT to do it, especially when it will set you back 
$1200, but it *IS* possible.
 
I make a terrible salesman.

( ( Art Moore  | Usenet bbs-artmoore@jwt.uucp
 ) )           |  -or-  bbs-artmoore@jwt.oau.org
( (            | Fidonet CBM  -  Arthur Moore
 ) )__Ask me about the C64 qwk offline reader!__
From: gobeski8618@iscsvax.uni.edu (Steve 'Gobes' Gobeski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: creating .sda files
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:56:08 -0600
Organization: United Anarchists of the World Association, Inc.

In article <1992Dec15.222533.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>, mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> Could someone please give my some step-by-step instuctions for creating
> .sda files?
> 
> I have a C128, the cs-dos and lharc files, and presumably it's in there
> somewhere but I can't find it..... thanks!
> 
> Cheers - Kirk
> 

Most likely, you mean .sfx, which (I gather) is what comes out of cs-dos and
lharc.  .sda is what you get when you use plain 'ol arc and a file called
sda.ml... use a copy of sda.ml as your "archive", then append your obligatory
screenful of text, and then append the files.  The program Arc-aid (maybe still
on milton, dunno) supposedly simplifies this... though I personally prefer to
get my hands dirty doing it.

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| Steve "Gobes" Gobeski | GOBESKI8618@iscsvax.uni.edu             |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|  more
| A BORING SIG IS WORSE | I don't believe the preachers           |  useless
| THAN NO SIG AT ALL!!! | They're just sticking out they're hands |  wasted
|-----------------------| I don't believe the government          |  space
| useless, wasted space | Who the hell is this Uncle Sam?         |
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From: dc@ais.org (David Daniels)
Subject: Novaterm 9.4... 
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:25:08 GMT


If someone has Novaterm 9.4, I'd appreciate a copy of it.
Or, If you know where I an ftp this, I'd like to know where..
Only place I've seen any of it, is ccosun.caltech.edu, and they do not have
all the files... Yet, everyone else seems to have it..

Thanks, Dc
@ais.org


-- 
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From: rknop@cco.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: .ark and C= Classifieds...
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:43:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

agb001@acad.drake.edu writes:

>I've seen that a few problems by people trying to decompress those .ark files
>that have been reported to be at Wuarchive FTP site. (I don't know personally
>as I haven't been over to check it...)
> 
>Anyway, the .ark suffix is characteristic of the ArKive 2.0...

>I however, DO know that Omega-Q 2.0 will undo .ark files IF they are correctly
>downloaded as BINARY and are not corrupted in anyway. If they are corrupted,
>Omega-Q reports back with an Unrecognized Format.

What are these files?  I am not familiar with an "arkive" program that does
.ark's in the C64/C128 native mode.  All of the files I've run into with .ark
on the end have been CP/M archives, and there are archives (which can be found
on wuarchive) that will dissolve them.

-Rob
rknop@cco.caltech.edu
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From: James.Braunsdorf@bbs.rn.com (James Braunsdorf)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:09:31 EST
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Subject: Re: printer ribbons
Distribution: world
Reply-To: James.Braunsdorf@bbs.rn.com (James Braunsdorf)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10b S/N 145921

I see I did not hit the shift key hard enough on that price
  It is $15.18 not 415.18 for the ribbons.
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From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore)
Subject: Re: Mach-128 cartridge
Reply-To: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:53:39 GMT

> Hi, just picked up a Mach-128 cart. second hand, and guess what?  No manual! 
> ):
> 
> Okay, I know <-M gives the help screen, but that talks about Mach-DOS, Warp
> drive, and a few other things that are unclear.  So I'd really like a copy of
> the manual!
> 
> Also, given its name (mach 128) does it work in 128 mode?  I haven't had any
> luck there yet.
 
Eh....I've got one of them things lying around...Piece of junk if you ask 
me..doesnt even make a good paperweight, and is a lousy doorstop.
 
Theres a switch and a button on the cartridge itself... ACCESS felt it 
necessary to put a reset button on a 128 cartridge..(I guess to save wear 
and tear on the system's reset button?!?!).  The little switch puts the 
cartridge in 64 or 128 mode.  Simply flick the switch, press the reset 
button (your choice!) and you have MOCK 5 or MOCK 128.
 
It does have hex/bin/dec conversions, which is nice.  I never cared for 
the little drive knock you got when it couldnt find a file.  Sometimes 
you'll question the speed difference in your load times.
 
Well, it *DOES* have screen dump also.  One of the easiest features to 
remember of MOCK 128--It *does* dump.

( ( Art Moore  | Usenet bbs-artmoore@jwt.uucp
 ) )           |  -or-  bbs-artmoore@jwt.oau.org
( (            | Fidonet CBM  -  Arthur Moore
 ) )__Ask me about the C64 qwk offline reader!__
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: sheun@cs.city.ac.uk (Sheun Olatunbosun)
Subject: GEOS parallel cable
Organization: City University
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:50:35 GMT

Hello there,

I need some technical info. about the GEOS cable which allows a parallel
printer to be connected to the user port of a C64. Could someone out there
give me the full pin specifications for this cable?


e.g.

 pin A on user port --------> STROBE line of printer connecter

                              (I already have the correct pin numbers for
                               the various printer connections in my
                               printer manual).


I already use a cable which uses the BUSY, ACK, D0-D7, STROBE pins of the 
centronics interface and some GEOS stuff prints out fine. But there are times
when the computer seems to be outputting data faster than the printer can
handle and the o/p result is not WYSIWYG from the screen.


Thanks
Sheun

p.s. Does anybody know of a suitable GEOS input driver for the NEOS mouse and
     where it can be obtained?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: schuetz@fm11ap07.tu-graz.ac.at (Alexander Schuetz)
Subject: Re: Burst 1581
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:19:25 GMT




toooony.... yeeees! there is a way to switch the 1581 blah blah blah, I'm
just not at home at the mo so I cant look up the paaapers!  
Did you get my Email anyway in the meantime?
By the way I have the itchy feeling that we are online at the same time?
Hm? "IRC" would be the right thing for us, YOU KNOW? 
Oh well. Hope you got my Email and hope you'll *SEND* me an Email *soon*.
<Discussing our matters *HERE* would start a *LOVELY* flame war I guess...>

ATT/L

Oh Tony by the way, do you need "BIG BLUE READER"? I have the 1581 version. 
Your 1581 can read/write/format IBM PC disks, then. I always use it for
data conversion from/to PC. I'd email you some very kute warez! :-)






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