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From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help on choosing a family dog
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:59:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamvm1.1685C8C99.X005CB
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <1992Sep7.211351.6856@coopsol.com>
  brentw@coopsol.com (Brent Williams) writes:
 
>We have spent some time  looking through dog books and talking to people
>we know with various breeds.  We're getting conflicting information.  We
>have narrowed it down to five breeds, and would appreciate any input you
>may have on this.  BTW, we've never owned a dog before.  Here are the breeds
>we're looking at:
>
>* YELLOW LAB.
 
Why *Yellow* specifically?  If that is your personal preferance, that's
great.  If someone has told you that they have a better disposition,
etc., than blacks or chocolates, they are listening to old wives tales.
Also, labs can tend to be pretty hyper dogs as well......
If you do get a lab and don't plan on having it do field work, please
have it spayed / neutered.... (ok, for cindy and liza, include conform-
ationlly correct in there too....   ;-)  ).
 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Re: How strong are Siberian Husky's ?
Keywords: Siberian Husky health problems
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:36:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.125443.13691@sunbim.be> jdb@sunbim.be writes:
>Hello there,
>
>I'm looking for personal experiences on this one.
>I have at home a Siberian Husky, and I'm looking for some advise.
>
>Lately, several people have found it to be there duty, to try and
>scare me, telling me that Husky tend to die sooner, and get ill faster
>and any other bread. In fact the rumours are quite opposite: some say
>that they are as tough as a rock, others say that they are week as a baby.
>
>
>What are your experiences on this? Are there special things to look out for?

	I only have a sample size of one, but my Siberian husky is 11 now and
has essentially never been sick a day in his life. He had a benign tumor removed
last fall, but the surgery was only done on a precautionary/exploratory basis.
He has been an extremely healthy (but not very obedient) dog.
	Best of luck to you with your Siberian - they are lovely dogs!

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: fritz@gomez.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Fritz Weihe)
Subject: discount rawhide bones
Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:16:58 GMT
From: bws20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: GSD size, was Re: Diamond Dog Food
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:40:56 GMT
Reply-To: bws20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


In article: <BuBox1.CLM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

Kay asks about a particular brand of dog food and mentions her breeder's
dogs:
> the high fat content would be bad for him? They've got BIG
>  muscular dogs...the sire was 140 lbs with a HUGE chest...
> like over a foot, easily...no fat on him! I'm going to talk

DOes anyone have a copy of the GSD standard handy?  140 lbs seems
extraordinarily large for a GSD.  I wonder what the hips are like?
Just curious

bws

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: knapik@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Knapik)
Subject: Re: Bouvier Agression
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:13:54 GMT

In this case it's not a matter of not correcting her. She has been corrected and
corrected quickly and severely. I tell her to go into a down position and stay
until I release her. 
A particular instance with agression towards a person rather than another dog
happened in our house recently, when guests were over for the Labor Day weekend.
Even after being there for 3 days, Zena lunged at our guest.

The people arrived the first day and set their luggage in the hallway. The woman
then tried to go into her luggage with Zena now in the room for the first time.
Zena barked at the woman.

Next, when helping make dinner, she reached into the frig for salad dressing when
Zena's head was close to her reach, and she lunged/snapped again.

The third time, the woman was helping my wife fold clothes, and as she reached
for a towel, Zena lunged/snapped again. All three times I was right there and
FIRMLY corrected her. The funny thing about the last time, was that after Zena
was corrected she ran over to the woman looking for affection. It appeared that
she was looking for forgiveness. She then came over to me in similar fashion.

Any ideas on how to recreate such situations without running out of friends?
The hard part is that she will not do it when the person involved is not afraid
of her and shows signs of accepting her from the time they walk in the door.
 
-- 
Jim Knapik
Motorola - Mobile Data Division
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: pit bull?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:13:44 GMT




>|> and are bred for show and companion purposes.  AKC conformation showing
>|> has had a positive effect on these breeds.  To compete in the ring,
>|> a Staffie must get into the ring with other dogs (Staffs of the same
>|> sex in the breed ring, other terriers in the group ring) and show
>|> no signs of aggression.  He must allow a stranger (the judge) to touch
>|> his testicles without showing any aggression.  He must spend lots of
>|> time on the crowded show floor with grownups, kids, and all kinds of dogs
>|> brushing by him.  If a dog cannot do this, he cannot be shown and therefore
>|> cannot win.  If he cannot win, he cannot breed.
>|>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Not to be a smart-a** but,
>It'd be a great world if this were really the case.

This is the difference between Staffs and "pitbulls" (no offense
intended to UKC APBTs).  If one wants a good bulldog, one
who will be healthy and mentally sound, then one goes to a good
breeder.  A good breeder shows his or her dogs, breeds only the best
specimens, and screens potential buyers.  Whenever they try to ban 
"pitbulls", they are letting the actions of junkyard dogs owned by 
junkyard people prevent nice people for having nice dogs. 


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Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Subject: Re: Black GSDs (Defending Myself AGAIN!)
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:01:55 GMT


Before you all go roasting me some more over your open flames
get this through all your THICK heads:


WE NEVER HAD ANY PLANS TO BREED THIS DOG!!!!!

I merely wanted to know what effects coat color had
on breeding fees....NOTHING ELSE!!!!
 
 
 



 
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      Kay Schlumpf     University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign,  MRLCFC
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Wife to Peter, the Patient; Mommy to Baeki, the Happy Cocker Spaniel; 
Owned by Pixel, the Cuddly Siamese and Dante, the Quilter's Cat. Also
Quilter, Collector of Model Horses, and Horse Fiend! 
             All opinions are my own...mine mine mine, ALL MINE!
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From: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: help! how to control allergies to my dog!
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:20:33 GMT
Reply-To: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.


hello everyone,

i got so many great suggestions about how to keep my
golden (indiana) from eating everything in my house, i
decided to ask another question.

my SO has just told me he is allergic to my dog!  i used to live
in buffalo with her and he lives in rochester, so it was never a
problem.  well, now i live in rochester and it is a problem.  is
there anything i can do besides vacuumming constantly and grooming her
more often to help make him 'less' allergic to my beloved indy??? 
is there naything i can do to reduce the amount of dander she
produces?  she is a 3 year old, spayed golden retriever.

i know there probably is little i can do besides grooming/vacuumming,
but if anyone knows of anything, let me know!  posting or email is fine.

thanks much,
laurie


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From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Unlikely event 
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:16:28 EST

I had some fun with my 7-1/2 year old husky yesterday.  We went to a puppy 
match yesterday and I entered her in pre-novice obedience.  This was only
the second time we have ever competed, and out of 13 entries, she came in 
4th.  You have to understand the humor of this.  Tasha is our problem child.
In the house, she won't come when she is called, pretty much ignores us when
we ask her to do something, rules the roost.  She never has caught on to going
to the bathroom EXCLUSIVELY outside and therefore, we have pretty much told 
her she is going to be a most-of-the-time outside dog.  If she ever gets 
loose, she runs away from us when we call her. BUT, put on her obedience 
collar and lead, and she is great!  Actually, if we had gotten to the match
earlier, I think she would have gotten first.  I had only 10 minutes to
acclimate her to the area, and that isn't enough time for her.  Her healing
was quite poor and she usually excels in that.

I just wanted to let you know that even the problem "children" can do something
well.  The other "child" is completely opposite.  He's wants to please us all
the time, rarely ever disobeys, comes when he's called (unless we want to put
him on the tie-out or put his Elizabethian collar on him - he doesn't like
those).  He will probably be the one who we won't be able to get a CD on!

Bye,
Kim

(Mom of Tasha the Terror and Spencer the Great!)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jack Dean)
Subject: Re: Help on choosing a family dog
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
	<1992Sep8.130554.1@scivax.stsci.edu> <23280@sybase.sybase.com>
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:25:03

>>>>> In article <23280@sybase.sybase.com>, ellie@slumber.sybase.com (Ellen Lewis) writes:

 Ellen> Since I've been taking our puppy to the local dog-park almost everyday,
 Ellen> I've seen more greyhounds lately. I use to considere them, well, 
 Ellen> basically funny-looking. But seeing them in the park, I've come to
 Ellen> admire them more. Every so often one will shoot across the park at
 Ellen> top speed with several other delighted dogs vainly trailing behind
 Ellen> it. It's a pretty joyous scene. Reading Sharon Toolan's description
 Ellen> of adopted racing greyhounds--they sound wonderful. The question that
 Ellen> comes to my mind though, is how much of that exercise do they need?
 Ellen> Our australian shepherd puppy loves to run, but she's happy with
 Ellen> lots (and lots) of little sprints, and if she can't get those, even a
 Ellen> good wrasslin' session with another puppy will satisfy her. But it
 Ellen> seems like a greyhound must *need* to stretch those legs pretty 
 Ellen> frequently?

A very common misconception, that greyhounds require extensive
exercise to be happy and healthy.  In actuality, greyhounds have very
little endurance, and so would be very happy with only a few sprints.
Remember, your shepherd was bred to be able to run after shhep all day
long.  An active racing greyhound, on the other hand, races only once
every 3 to 5 days.  And that race is over in just over 30 seconds, for
the typical 5/16 mile race.  So in all probability, greyhounds would
be wiped out out long before your puppy is finished.

I've come to the conclusion that you have to see a greyhound in the
flesh to appreciate their looks.  Of course, they are breathtaking
when in full stride.  But they also have a certain gracefulness when
just walking around.  Now, after living with my two retired racers,
plus numerous fostered greyhounds, all the other dogs look, well,
basically clumsy and funny-looking.



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Jack Dean                         dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
From: locke@4ccvw54.scg.hac.com (Anne Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Irish Setter Defense
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:20:11 GMT
Reply-To: locke@caesi.scg.hac.com (Anne Locke)
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

Irish Setter Defense...

Is this anything like the "Twinkie Defense" used in court?

Yes, I killed a person, but the *twinkies* made me do it!

;-)

Anne.
From: dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jack Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Greyhounds as watchdogs?
Date: 15 Sep 1992 20:27:23 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company

>>>>> In article <199209151909.AA15612@natinst.com>, kathrynw@radian.UUCP (Kathryn Whitworth) writes:


 Kathryn> Maybe this has been addressed while I was away:

 Kathryn> What kind of watchdogs do greyhounds (retired racers) make?  I'm not
 Kathryn> talking about aggression; I'm more interested in barking* at people
 Kathryn> at the door or in the yard, and not fawning over strangers.  Aloof is
 Kathryn> just fine.  (The dog, of course, not me -- I lose my voice if I growl
 Kathryn> or bark too much.)

 Kathryn> I realize temperaments vary widely, and what is true for one may not be
 Kathryn> true for another, but are there any trends?

 Kathryn> Thanks,

 Kathryn> Kathryn Roth Whitworth


I would have to say that in general, greyhounds make pretty lousy
watch dogs.  Neither of my two adopted retired racers bark at the
approach of strangers.  Nor do they bark when someone rings the
doorbell.  Nor do they bark at other dogs when we are out walking,
even if the other dog barks at mine.  They just don't don't bark a lot
at all.  In fact, when I got my first adopted greyhound home, I
thought she must have been debarked by the breeder, it took so long
before I heard her bark.  The only time mine bark at all is when they
want to go play.

The retired racers will often learn to bark at strangers if you
already have a dog that does so.  Also, I know of a particular
instance where one of our adopters was awakened by her greyhound
growling at a prowler outside her window.  And I wouldn't have
described her dog as a watchdog type before this incident either.



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Jack Dean                         dean@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog food reviews?
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:59:17 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article <20264@drutx.ATT.COM> mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior) writes:
>Mushing usually has a review of dog food (of course for sled dogs) around
>June/July issues.
>
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The _Mushing_ just before this latest one had a review of lots of different
dog foods, but as you point out, the emphasis is on mushing.  No review
of most of the major brands normal pet owners usually buy.  If anyone is
interested, I'll be glad to post the exact magazine reference.  THe last
two _Dog Fancy's_ have articles about choosing dog food.  Unfortunetely,
I am behind on my reading so I have not read the articles yet, but those
interested might want to look in there.

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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Autoimmune Anemia
Date: 13 Sep 92 05:39:21 GMT
Organization: Yale University

In article <21020154@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
jodi@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jodi Peterson) writes:
 
>The housesitter rushed her to the vet, then called me. Heartsick
>and scared, I drove straight through 20 hours, and by the time I got home
>Brandy had been transferred to the critical care unit at the CSU
>vet hospital. The vet there told me that she has
>autoimmune hemalytic anemia (the intravascular form).
>This is a very serious disease in which the dog makes antibodies
>to its own red blood cells. Normal red blood cell level is 45%,
>but poor Brandy's was down to 6%. They gave her a transfusion and
>are treating her with a steroid, a chemotherapy drug, and an
>"experimental" drug, cyclosporin. Apparently with the cyclosporin
>treatment she has about a 50-50 chance (before cyclosporin,
>90% of the victims died).
>
>She seems to be holding her own (she's alert, can walk a bit,
>is not destroying her red cells as fast now) but it will still
>be several days before we know if she's going to make it.
>
>I'm very worried and scared and depressed. I've had her since
>she was 6 weeks old (she's 8 years now), and can't stand the thought
>of losing her. Has anyone out there had any experience with
>this disease? If she survives it (and she HAS to), what are
>her chances for leading a healthy life again?
 
 
Unfortunately, I have had a very personal experience with this disease.  My
first bichon, Princess, died from it.  She was sick for about eight months,
and was on Prednisone for most of that time.  The vet somehow couldn't
find a dosage which would stabilize her condition.
 
The quality of her life was fairly good until the last week.  She was tired
a lot, but she was never a very active dog to begin with.  I still miss her.
She was only five years old, and died on Valentine's day.
 
I don't mean to paint a completely bleak picture.  The bichon living across
the street has the same problem (which led me to think that the disease
was transmittable.  However, the vets say otherwise.).  This dog is still
alive, well, and going strong, although there were a few times when they
didn't think she'd make it through the night.
 
I feel for you.  I hope Brandy comes through it all right.
 
 
 
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From: wendy@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Wendy Milner)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:50:56 GMT
Subject: Working Newfoundlands
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs


I just bought a Newfoundland puppy.  She is only 5 weeks old
this week, and still with her mother.  I can't wait to bring
her home.

I'd like to train this puppy to pull carts and do some real work.
However, I haven't done more than general obedience work with
dogs before.  So some basic questions for those net folks who
have worked with big :-) dogs before.

Mostly, what is the right age to begin?  Puppy will get basic
obedience classes and such at the start.  But when can you begin
work with a large dog?   When are the bones and muscles developed
enough in this GIANT dog?

Can you begin road work at 8 months, 1 year, 18 months?  
Yes I will watch the dog and make sure I don't over do to begin with.  
Puppy will have the run of 40 acres for her own play time.  
I'm just wondering when she will be able to come along
on our 4 mile rides (my other dog runs free since there is no traffic
no neighbors, nobody around)

For harness training, how soon do you start?  What weight do
you start with?  I figured that a puppy can wear a harness (even
if it will have to be adjusted weekly).  But do you have to wait
till they are 2 years before adding any weight?

Any good books out there you'd recommend?

A friend who breeds Newfies gave me a pamphlate about Newfies
for new owners.  It was funny.  It answered such questions as:
Do Newfies shed?  Do Newfies drule?  I loved it.  But then I've been
owned by a Newfoundland before.

Wendy
From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:19:31 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

In a previous article, hobright@src.honeywell.com (Lesa Hobright Turner) wrote:
> 
>>>for all of you out there with healthy pets....take alot of pictures.
> 
>I'm overly guilty of taking pictures of my Keeshond.  I sat down at a family
>get together with three rolls of newly developed film....all of my dog. :)  
>The family wasn't impressed ;-).

	I can top that... I got so annoyed one x-mas looking at all the
kiddie pictures of 'aquaintances'- most of whom had the children with
someone other than their current spouse that I had WALLETS made of our
labrador.  My husband took a great picture of him in the woods-
it looks like a studio picture with a fake background(honest).  Anyway
I had cheapy wallets made and yes I carry one and send them to anyone
I think might get a kick out of it (ie a usmail penpal or another
labrador fanatic).  Anyway call me nuts but now I can pass a 
picture around too.
	OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
don't mean the Santa and doggie picture but a real studio-serious picture.
A friend of mine did once-I thought it was sorta weird at the time but I'm
considering it for our first professional portrait. Oh yea- I mean dogs
that are pets only- not the show dogs etc where I can see a need.
Beverly
Wash Univ. Med School, St. Louis, MO