Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 21:56:06 EDT
From: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
Reply-To: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
Subject: GayNet Digest Volume 0 Issue 4
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gaynet

In this issue:
                               AIDS Quilt
                         pedantry and gratitude
                            Quilt Connection
                     gender, feminism, and science
                              CWFA -- Mark
           Gay/Lesbian Faculty Staff at Univeristy of Chicago
                            QUILT HAPPENINGS
                            Please send info
                  famous lgb's and lesbian scientists
                        request living out folks
                                Lavender
                   Cornell's National Coming Out Week
                         The 'Gender' Community
                           gay/bi celebrities
                     GayNet Digest Volume 0 Issue 3
                         looking for a speaker
                     Jenny Livingstone is het--NOT!
              musical genius, or appreciation thereof....
                             Coming Out day

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:55 GMT
From: Brian Nunes <0005066380@mcimail.com>
Subject: AIDS Quilt

The following advisory was transmitted to the media today via
Business Wire.  Thought it might be of interest:
(re-printed without permission, although I can't imagine how
anyone would be upset, since they're getting extra exposure!)


( BW)(NAMES-PROJECT) ADVISORY/300,000 expected in Washington Oct. 9-11
to view the AIDS Memorial Quilt

           City Editors
           ADVISORY...for Friday-Sunday (Oct. 9-11)

           --(BUSINESS WIRE)--More than 300,000 celebrities, volunteers, AIDS
activists and panel makers from around the world will assemble in
Washington, Oct. 9-11, in one of the largest mobilizations ever to draw
attention to AIDS.
           The centerpiece of this mobilization is the NAMES Project AIDS
Memorial Quilt, which will be displayed on the grounds of the
Washington Monument.  The Quilt, comprised of more than 20,000 panels
representing persons who have died of AIDS, weighs 30 tons and will
cover an area equivalent to 12 football fields.
-0-
*T

    WHO:   The NAMES Project AIDS Memorial Quilt

    WHAT:  The International Display of the Quilt and a series of
           events including conferences, concerts, theater performances
           and informational talks on AIDS-related issues.

    WHERE: The grounds of the Washington Monument

    WHEN:  Friday, Oct. 9 -- 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Opening Ceremonies

           Among those scheduled to participate in the traditional
           reading of the names are: Leanza Cornett, 1992 Miss America;
           Dr. Antonio Novello, Surgeon General of the U.S.; Liza
           Minelli, actress; Lily Tomlin, actress; Sharon Pratt Kelly,
           Mayor of Washington; Rep. Pat Schroeder; Dr. Anthony Fauci,
           director of the National Institute of Allergy & Infectious
           Diseases; and Mary Fisher and Bob Hattoy who spoke
           at the Republican and Democratic Conventions respectively.

           Saturday, Oct. 10 -- 10 a.m. to 6 p.m.
           6:30 - Candlelight march begins at the Ellipse

           Sunday, Oct. 11 -- 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.  Closing Ceremonies
*T

    WHY:   Laid on America's front yard three weeks before the
presidential election, the Quilt will call the world's attention to the
escalating AIDS epidemic.  The display in Washington will take place in
conjuction with an enormous gathering of AIDS-related service
organizations.  The Quilt's International Display will include panels
from 18 countries, providing a unique forum for HIV/AIDS education and
prevention and helping to raise public awareness and revitalize
volunteerism.  Celebrities, AIDS activists and panel makers will be
available to speak with the media about their personal experiences with
the AIDS pandemic.

           --30--cs/sf

           CONTACT: The Rowland Co., San Francisco
                    Bob Polzoni or Stacy MacLean, 415/512-3512

                    The NAMES Project, 202/29-NAMES

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:55:24 -0600 (PDT)
From: John Medlin <jmedlin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: pedantry and gratitude
Mime-Version: 1.0

1.  Pedantry
"Wherefore art thou, Gaynet" doesn't mean 'where are you'; it means 'why
are you Gaynet and not something else.'  [well, we _are_ an academic
bunch, aren't we?]  :-)

2.  Gratitude
Thanks to all who responded with suggestions for the gay/Jewish book.
Twice Blessed was the one I had in mind, but now I have a choice.  Whatta
bunch of mensches!

(Or have I betrayed my non-Jewishness by attempting Yiddish with a
lapsed-Methodist mind?)

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Date:    Tue, 06 Oct 92 14:17 PDT
From: Ron Biduk                            <ECZ5RAB@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Quilt Connection

For those of you out there who will be going to the Quilt in D.C. and would
like to meet up with a follow Netter who may be volunteering for the event,
here is a way to locate them.  Just go to Volunteer Sign-in, give the
person's name you are trying to locate & they should be able to point you
in the right direction.  All of us who are volunteering will be wearing
purple name badges and will be assigned to specific areas (ie quilt
monitor, sales, information desk, etc.).

Feel free to track me down on Saturday morning (October 10th) as I will be
one of many Quilt monitors present. Looking forward to meeting a bunch of
you there!!!

Ron Biduk
UCLA Biomedical Library

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Date: 06 Oct 92 17:26:24 EST
From: Larry Goldsmith <LGOLDSMI@PENNSAS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject: gender, feminism, and science

People interested in the feminism/science issue might also want to look
at Evelyn Fox Keller's _Reflections on Gender and Science_, which has a
good discussion of the kinds of issues that have been raised...

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From: hjhess@cwis.unomaha.edu (Heidi Jeanne Hess)
Subject: CWFA -- Mark
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 16:50:48 CDT

Thanks for the information on Concerned Women of America -- unfortunately
my SO is not in a position to get another job. The good thing is that it
is only one of thousands of "products" they take orders for. She talked
to a supervisor about not taking calls on that line and she was told
it just part of her job .... kind of irritated me, she seemed to take it
better than I did :-). I know I couldn't take the calls.

Does anyone have the specifics for Senate Bill 574?

Thanks for the information about the group -- everyone should call then
and run up their charges for 1-800 service!!

Again, the number for Concerned Women of America is 1-800-451-3344 or
1-800-458-8797.

Thanks,

Heidi
hjhess@cwis.unomaha.edu

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From: stu@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 16:58:32 CST
Subject: Gay/Lesbian Faculty Staff at Univeristy of Chicago

In response to query from Bill at NYU & for general information.  Last
year we formed a similar group -- an informal association of faculty
and staff -- at the University of Chicago.  While not as large as the
group Bill describes, it was exciting to see such a diverse group -- young
and old, tenured & non-tenured, faculty & staff, men & women, many
disciplines & parts of the university --  meet & begin to develop a set of
projects.  The main focus of this group is also to try to gain recognition
of domestic partnerships and equivalent rights to married couples at the
university.  There was also an active group of students, faculty, and staff
pushing these issues last year.  As part of this effort we determined that
at least the following other schools had already implemented some form of
domestic partnership rights: Columbia, Bowdoin, Harvard, NYU Law School
(close to home, Bill), North Dakota University, Occidental, Princeton,
Stanford, SUNY StonyBrook, Union Theological Seminary, University of
Michigan, and University of Wisconsin at Madison.  There may be more, but
this diverse list should provide a good start.  UofC(hicago) has not made
an official decision yet, but a proposal was made & is being considered by
the Provost's office.  I find it incredibly exciting & almost unbelievable
how much Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual visibility & organization continues to rise
on campuses across the country.
Stuart Michaels
stu@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu
University of Chicago
(312) 702-1024

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:10 EST
From: UA_FEV@northeastern.edu
Subject: QUILT HAPPENINGS

Hi y'all! I will be in Washington this coming weekend to volunteer w/the
NAMES Quilt, and I was just wondering whether anybody knows of any net-
and/or bi-related get-togethers planned during the course of the weekend
in the DC/VA/MD area (on top of the fairly happening DC club scene).
Please post, as I'm probably not the only one who's looking to make the
most of this important weekend.

Thanks and Kiss-Kisses,
_F_unky
_R_uling
_E_ducated
_D_iva

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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 18:24:05 EDT
From: murphyse%LEMOYNE.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Please send info

Hi!
    Could you please send me some preliminary information
about gaynet and its services. I really know nothing about it, and
I'm curious to know if it's something I would be interested in. Thanks!

                                      --Stephen Murphy

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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 18:58:23 -0500
From: uhrig@ssc.wisc.edu (NOAH)
Subject: famous lgb's and lesbian scientists

Three things: 1) it was a shock and a half to receive so much mail from
other gay people all at one time...yaw'll just crammed my little 2000 blocks
full.
	      2) famous lgb's to note: Congressmen Steven Gunderson, and
Herb Kohl (they are not partners), Bob Paris and Rod Jackson are a must,
and my mind is blank as those are my hero's...

	      3) To the person "fsteele@helix.nih.gov" who wanted to know
some stuff about lesbian scientists...there is an organization at the U of
Wisconsin in Madison called *Lesbians in Science*...I am sure that they would
be happy to give you some sources, if not speak with you in person.  Write:
Lesbians in Science C/O The United, 310 E Wilson, Madison, Wi 53714...or call
(608)-255-8582.

Sincerely...SC Noah Uhrig "uhrig@ssc.wisc.edu"

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Date:     Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:25 CDT
From: <JP11355%SWTEXAS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject:  request living out folks

I am sure that it has been printed already, but I did not receive the list
of the famous or successful out persons. I would like a copy of this sent
to me. I have not been receiving the net for over a week and seemed to have
missed the completed list.

Thanks in advance,

Joe Platt
President
Southwest Texas State
GLSA

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Date:         Tue, 06 Oct 92 20:33:00 EDT
From: JCCJ@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu

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Date: 06 Oct 92 20:38:08 EDT
Subject: Lavender
From: An Anonymous Sender

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the special significance of lavender?
I understand that pink triangles were used by the Nazis to identify
gay people, but lavender?

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Date:         Tue, 06 Oct 92 20:38:46 EDT
From: JCCJ@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu

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Date:         Tue, 06 Oct 92 20:39:46 EDT
From: JCCJ@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu

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Date:         Tue, 06 Oct 92 20:41:34 EDT
From: JCCJ@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu

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Date:         Tue, 06 Oct 92 20:42:51 EDT
From: "Joe B." <JCCJ@CORNELLA.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject:      Cornell's National Coming Out Week

Hi all--

Just wanted to announce some of the events that are taking place on the Cornell
 campus for national Coming Out Week.  I do not have the schedule with me, so i
f anybody would like more specific information as to time, day, and place, plea
se write to me.

This year we are centering several of our activites around the ROTC issue..Corn
ell has been quite unsuccessful in getting the administration to cooperate on t
his issue.  Also, we have managed to get James Holobaugh (sp?) to come speak on
 campus, providing further impetus to the ROTC theme.  Additionally, we are put
ting together an open forum on the ROTC issue and we have invited the ROTC repr
esentative and the head of Cornell's legal counsel to represent their points of
 view to the Cornell student body; additionally, the forum will feature one of
the co-ordinators of the GLB Coalition and a gay man who quit ROTC last year.

We have also arranged for a speak-out and a kiss-in during the middle of the da
y in front of the student union building, providing us with additional visibili
ty.  We have also scheduled a dance, which is traditional for the Coming Out
week festivities.

This is all in addition to a scaling up of our normal day-to-day visibility act
ivities, which include chalkings, flyers, posters, a banner in front of the cam
pus store, and a weekly social event called The Answer at one of the Ithaca nig
htclubs.

Incidentally, since out fall break falls right on Coming Out day, we are
moving the dates of the week from the usual to October 18-24.

Again, if there are any questions, feel free to ask! :)

Joe

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Date: 06 Oct 92 20:49:39 EDT
Subject: The 'Gender' Community
From: An Anonymous Sender

I can understand the community of interest between lesbians and gay men.
Bisexuals sort of have a foot in the straight world and one in the gay.
But, increasingly, I see the 'gender' or 'transgender' community strung
together with these other groups, in print.

Last quarter's _Lesbian Contradiction_ was mostly devoted to a discussion
of 'sex and gender' and even asked: does gender exist?  And tacked onto
a long list of political demands from the gay community, there is often
those few items about 'civil rights' for transsexuals.  Thoughts?

I'm still trying to sort it out for myself....

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: gay/bi celebrities
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:23:16 GMT

Tim Pierce <twpierce@cs.amherst.edu> writes:

>I'm more curious about why Axl Rose is performing with a known faggot.
>I'd kill to know what goes through his mind when he's up there on
>stage.
*I* would like to know what a wellknown faggot like Elton John is doing
performing with a f***ed up person such as Axl Rose! What goes through HIS
mind??

>-
>____ Tim Pierce                / The Queer Resources Directory: access via
>\  / twpierce@cs.amherst.edu   / anonymous ftp at nifty.andrew.cmu.edu in
> \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / directory /pub/QRD.

Use the QRD!!
Latest additions: Democratic Platform. Republican Paltform coming soon. Also
a contact list for every single member of congress [found in /pub/QRD/qrd/info/
GOVT] and every single AIDS TREATMENT NEWS issue for the calendar year 1992.



-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735.  ***Clinton-Gore 92!***
uunet!rpi.edu!buckmr||buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet||buckmr@rpi.edu||+1 518 276 8910
PrinceMADONNAMariahCareySineadO'ConnorGeorgeMichaelKateBushEnyaCocteauTwins
MTVCNNFOXNBCCBSVH1RobertBarnardIsaacAsimovGoreVidalGlennCloseMerylStreep

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: GayNet Digest Volume 0 Issue 3
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:32:22 GMT

jeff@millie.loc.gov (Jeff Mallory) writes:

>Greetings all!
>Would whomever set up the 900-phone line for lesbigay info, drop me
>a line, please? I have lost my saved posts on the matter and had some
>requests for the info.

Jeff is referring to Brian McConnell's BAR-PHONE which can be contacted at
1-800-7722GAY [772-2429]. It is free for organisations who want to put informati
on about events or glb organisations themselves.

For more info, look in /pub/QRD/qrd/info directory for any file starting with
gide. Perhaps I should move the files to barphone names instead?

-
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ***Clinton-Gore 92!***
uunet!rpi.edu!buckmr||buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet||buckmr@rpi.edu||+1 518 276 8910
"We don't necessarily discriminate.  We simply exclude certain types of
 people." --Lt Col. Gerald Wellman, ROTC Instructor at M.I.T.,on D.O.D. 1332.14

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: looking for a speaker
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:44:47 GMT

"Computer Lady's Slave (Russell, Kerri)" <RUSSELLK@DICKINSON.EDU> writes:

>Does anyone out there know of anyone who could give a presentation on gay
>bashing? We're looking for  a powerful speaker, and I would love any info
>anyone could give me.

Kevin Berrill, head of the NGLTF Anti-Violence Project [until recently] is
a good choice.

They can be reached at:

National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, NGLTF
1734 Fourteenth Street, NW
Washington, DC   20009-4309
Phone:  (202) 332-6483
FAX: 202 332 0207
Urvashi Vaid, Exec Director
Peri Jude Radecic, Legislative Director

[/pub/QRD/qrd/info/CONTACTS/ngltf on nifty.andrew.cmu.edu]
--
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ``D.C., April 25 1993''
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
Anne-Imelda Radice, President Bush's appointee to head the National Endowment
for the Arts, has been described as ``the Lesbian Clarence Thomas''.

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Date: 6 Oct 92 21:38:00 EST
From: "GEOFFREY SCHRAMM" <gschramm@gmuvax.gmu.edu>
Subject: Jenny Livingstone is het--NOT!

Hey all you techno brats!
	I just wanted to send a message replying to Paula's (I think it was
Paula) response on _Paris Is Burning_. I really don't think she is het, if that
is waht you stated (the theory of her sexuality was stated in quotes or
by one of her friends). In the Fall issue of OUT! (she writes an article about
nasty letters) she tells that someone once called her heterosexual and that
being called that was the "crassest thing" (or something like that). Now,
whether or not she is stating she is gay or that being labeled in a sexual
context is "crass" is left up to the reader. Can anybody shed some light
on the situation?
	She also says something *REALLY* funny- There's nothing worse than a
bunch of queers with computers (I forgot the direct quote). This is said
as she begins her article about people who write complaint/nasty letters.
That would be us! *SNAP!* We are vicious and relentless and it's gotten
us this far. Now we need to move on further.
	Oh! Does anybody know any good graduate schools that have a reputable
Composition and Rhetoric program? I am hoping to enter a graduate program
which will enable me to concentrate on Gay and Lesbian Theory/Studies in
context with a Comp. and Rhet. Program. Anyone? Anyone?
	And, finally, about _Erotica_... I don't know about you all, but I
am really sick of seeing Naomi, Cindy, Linda, Claudia, etc.... can't they
just stay in _Interview_ and not infultrate MTV? They are not too funky
for me- they're just too boring and pretentious. I mean they're ubiquitous--
you step in them! Other than that the video was a watered down version
of _Justify My Love_-- more s/m, b/d with less queers. I am just awaiting
when I go to New York or even downtown (Washinton DC) to see all that
Madonnaphiles wearing their little gold teeth. The riding crop was an added
enjoyment, I must admit! Did anybody see Madonna in _People_ (if I ever
show up in that mag I have left instructions for my friends and family to
shoot me)? There was a snapshot of her in the Gaultier outfit with her
breast as accessories! They showed it in _People_ but not on MTV. (?)

		I don't think you know what pain is...

				geoffrey

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Date:     Tue, 6 Oct 92 20:56 CDT
From: <LF11522%SWTEXAS.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject:  musical genius, or appreciation thereof....

        Hello,
                This is for anyone interested in sharing musical ideas,
ambitions, or interests.  I am a music major at Southwest Texas State
University, and I want to hear from any one that enjoys the facet of all music,
not just one type.  I am a voice performancemajor, and I sing between a Mezzo
and a Contralto voice type, and I am minoring in 'Cello performance.  I am
presently composing a piece for Viola, and I would be very interested in
performing any music that any of you have composed, all credit for composition
would be given, of course.  Let me know if you are interested, or if you just
want to chat.
                                Lauren Franklin, SWTSU

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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Coming Out day
Distribution: local
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:57:32 GMT

SLOMOWR@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu writes:

>In response to Dan Bennet about Coming Out Day:

>Vanderbilt Lambda Association has a tradition of taking out an ad in the
>Hustler (school paper) and listing our names under a brief description of
>what National Coming Out Day is.  we usually get about 5 people to list their
>names and the rest of the people list descriptions ranging from:  sophomore
>engineer to cute lesbian grad student couple.. depending on their own feelings.

This is a rather cool, idea, actually! I'll think about it for next year.
Our group is rather small and I don't think it would have the same effect if
people saw the sme 5 names every year.

This year we are having a open public mixer, which we invited high-level members
of the school administration [they really like us]. Last year we had three
Vice-Presidents, head of Residence Life, Dean of STudents and a bunch of other
deans there and there was a bomb scare! Looking forward to what we get this
year... Last year everyone had a BLAST! [:-)]

There's free food and some gay-oriented artsy-fartsy video.

Re the school paper we usually have some one come out either in a Letter To
The Editor, or in an op-ed piece on the Editorial Page.

>We also plan a massive posting on campus of signs that out celebrities and
>figures from history.  The message is "History has set the record a little
>too straight".. Last year we put up 600 signs.  Our goal this year is 2000+.
wow!! good luck!

-
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
``No exam-cheating, pot-smoking, draft-dodging, privileged youth Vice-President
in a "Bush The Blamer" administration can speak with moral authority about
abandoned moral values and assuming personal responsibility.''--Jesse Jackson

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