From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: The IPD, The IPD, blah blah blah... and other feminist songs
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: net 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:45:07 GMT

In <01GN7YWGWSO08WWCQ7@vms.cis.pitt.edu> ABBST@vms.cis.pitt.edu (AL) writes:

>>As humans we all like to have a reason for everything.  When we don't we
>>make them up.  In this case look for someone to blame.  BINGO - The White
>>Anglo-Saxon Hetrosexual Male.  The perfect refain from a feminist song.
>>Sorry, so sorry, I just am not going to accept it.  All I can say to women
>>like the one quoted is to take charge of your own life and stop trying to
>>blame men for you trials and tribulations.

But if, as you say, we *recognize* that we like to have a reason for
everything, how come we do not realize that this is what we are doing?
And recognizing it, put it behind us as merely childish behavior
carried into adulthood. I *know* that I am not a chauvinist, I *know*
that I am not a racist, yet I see statements (like you quote) that
would have everyone believe that I am - so what. Simply because there
are people who manage to move about this world with their heads
firmly implanted in their anal orifice am I supposed to get upset?
I hardly think so.

>This really brings back some memories!  I heard two "feminist" (that's the
>way they billed themselves) performers singing about the revenge they were
>getting by forcing men to use the IPD -- the Inter-Penis-Device.  It seems
>that men had *forced* them to use the IUD and this was their way of getting
>even.

Well, I do know of some husbands who refuse to wear condoms yet insist
on sex, that might be considered 'force' if you will.

>I thought, "Hey, get a life!  I thought you women controlled your own
>bodies.  How can anyone FORCE you to use the IUD?".  I guess some men held
>a gun to their heads and inserted the IUD.

>It's amazing how men are supposed to be responsible for their choices but
>women are victims of the system.

The sad part of this is that we are all *victims* of the system to 
some extent. Makes me wonder if the establishment is encouraging
the battle of the sexes for their own advantage, sort of like the
landowners encouraging the sharecroppers to persecute the blacks
so they (the landowners) could screw them both.

>This is the crap I get tired of seeing. But you are right that it builds
>character.  After reading soc.*men, whenever I hear feminist bullshit, I
>recognize it immediately.  Even "all men are potential window-washers"
>doesn't upset me any longer.  I just laugh and say "My, I'm really powerful
>aren't I?  I can instill fear just by existing!  You are weak."

>Al

Really? Your choice of words or adjectives makes it sound like they
are still getting to you. I never let it get me excited when they
say this stuff to me, I just smile. It simply boils down to my
knowing exactly who I am. Florence and I have a good, equal, loving
marriage. We respect each other for what we are - why on earth would
the opinion of some rabid [insert your favorite ist here] bother
either of us? We do shake our heads in wonder from time to time when
we think how basically simple it is to have what we have, yet some
folks seem willing to go to any length to avoid happiness. <sigh>
Oh well, they only said you had the right to pursue happiness, no
one ever guaranteed you would catch it :-(. But to have it in your
grasp and throw it away, that one I can't figure. 

REB

just the opinions of a puzzled, middle aged, MWM.

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