HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sivesh@rebels.b23b.ingr.com (sivesh pradhaan)
Subject: Info. about INS and tourist spots in ATLANTA
Followup-To: rec.travel
Reply-To: sivesh@rebels.b23b.ingr.com
Organization: DAZIX An Intergraph Comp. (Huntsville, Al.)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:36:44 GMT

Hi Netters,

I need to know the directions to the INS office in Atlanta. I'll be going on
I-20 from Alabama ie going east on I-20.

Also If y'all could tell me about the different places worth visiting during
my 4 day stay there, I'll really appreciate it. I am perticularly interested in
the directions to the Indian restraunts, good shopping malls, and all other 
tourist attractions. At this time I have planned on visiting the Six Flags, CNN
Center, the Underground and the zoo.

Please also comment on the safety & convenience aspect of travelling in MARTA,
which areas are unsafe etc.  

I'll really appreciate a quick response to my email address:

sivesh@rebels.b23b.ingr.com

-Sivesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: randivrv@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Raju)
Subject: Need to stay for 1 day in New York city on sunday August 23, 1992
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:06:13 GMT

Clarkson University's Indian graduate student would like to stay in New York

city for 1 day on August 23, 1992. If anyone can provide accommodation for      

1 day, help will be appreciated.  Please send me your email address and 

phone no. at this address. randivrv@craft.camp.clarkson.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: religious talks
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:53:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.113627@daffy.mc.ti.com>, a726226@daffy.mc.ti.com (savithri) writes:
>
>Ravi K. Prasanth obviously has a problem with my name
>since it does not start with a MR. so and so.  I did not
>see you object to posters who expressed similar opinions
>regarding the "religious" pourings in this group.
>
>As far as seeing only the negative aspects of religions,
>I don't see what "collective" good they have done for
>humanity.  If anything they have aided in tearing nations
>apart creating hatred between various groups.  On the other
>hand science has aided humans in several aspects of LIFE
>(not some abstract soul that people have trouble comprehending)
>YOU wouldn't be at your terminal today or better still in this
>country via PLANE or SHIP or whatever without science and
>technology.  Perhaps your religious mind would like to
>ENLIGHTEN this group as to what religion has done for human
>beings wihtout going into salvation, eternal life, rebirth ,
>dining with the gods, etc.
>
>savithri

Our goals are
1.Equality of man and woman
2.Don't ignore science in the name of religion
3. Universal Peace
4. Political unity of world
5. Unity of all races
6.Universal language
7.Unity of all religion

Now do you see why it belongs in SCI
Fortunately, or unfortunately the bond that binds us is religion:
That's why all this hullabaloo
Is it clear now.
Thanks
Arindam

4. UNiversal language
5.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: acube@eecg.toronto.edu (Aditya Aggarwal)
Subject: Help for NTS (NCERT) Scholarship .....
Keywords: NTS Scholarship
Distribution: na
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:20:03 GMT


Hi,


I was receiving (NTS) NCERT Scholarship in India. I have completed 
one year of study for Masters in Canada . Which forms are required
to be filled for getting money from them? I have not received any
forms from them at my Home, back in India. Before coming to Canada
I had inform them about my admission in Masters at UofT ?

I have blank form which I used to fill in my Bachelors. It appears 
weird because it requires Dean to sign for advance receipt of getting 
the scholarship which they(UofT) will get on behalf of the student. Also, 
it requires that the money should be disbursed by the institution....etc...
But all this don't apply as they are not going to give in dollars to 
the institution.

Thanxs in anticipation
Aditya

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dasu@sscux1.ssc.gov (Sridhara Dasu)
Subject: Re: Indian Embassy...Good Experience
Organization: SSC Laboratory, Dallas, TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:26:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.214114.28808@intelhf.hf.intel.com> jasjit@hfglobe.intel.com (Jasjit Singh) writes:

   Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Path: sunova!convex!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!iWarp.intel.com|ichips!intelhf!jasjit
   From: jasjit@hfglobe.intel.com (Jasjit Singh)
   Sender: jasjit@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Jasjit Singh)
   Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
   Distribution: usa
   Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:41:14 GMT
   Lines: 9

   I have so often seen postings criticizing the Indian Embassy. Well,
   I have had an experience to the contrary. I got a passport within a
   week of applying for it. The person to whom I talked to (I think it
   was some Mr. Singh) was very polite and helpful over the phone.

   Maybe the people have had bad experiences at the consular offices
   more than the embassy. Just wondering.....

   -Jasjit


I have had 4 encounters with Indian Consulates. I can't say that
it has been unpleasant experience even once. Yes, it was difficult
to get hold of them on the phone, but I have had even more problems
with German, Swedish, and Italian consulates. I did notice that
folks who were in the queues at the consulates were rather rude
and deserved worse treatment than what they got. If one is pleasant
and curteous to the guy at the counter, he is very unlikely to 
harass you. If only the folks working in the Indian consulates (and 
Air India!) can complain on SCI we will be inundated with complaints of
rude and improper behaviour of their customers!
			- Sridhara Dasu
From: vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Test
Date: 17 Aug 1992 08:39:50 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu



Just a test.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:28023 soc.culture.pakistan:13622
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Contradictions in Secularism
Date: 13 Aug 1992 15:58:39 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug13.190635.3147@cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
:In article <l8l8tvINNeoo@pageboy.cs.utexas.edu: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder) writes:
::
::Who has decreed that "to live in peace" is such a wonderful
::idea? After all, the concept of "evolution" predicates that
::we wouldn't have reached this level of "learning" and 
::"intelligence" unless we had overcome all the "weaklings"
::on the way. May be there is even higher level of "intelligence"
::waiting for us, if we only allow the "fittest" to survive?
:
:Hm, thanks for a pull-no-punches response about a vision of society in
:which "weaklings" are destroyed and society "evolves" in
:"intelligence" since only the fittest survive.  There are many
:problems with this view.  One of them is that killing the other fellow
:who does not agree to your regulation of his behavior based on your
:revelation that he disagrees with hardly constitutes any proof of your
:higher intelligence.

Ah! then you are suggesting that there "are" some eternal
principles (for instance, living in peace) which "do" have
eternal truth and are quite independent of evolution (irrespective
of whether it exists or not). There "is" some "intelligence" and 
some "balance" in our senses which abhors such violation of life and
its sanctity, it has always been there and will always remain
no matter how many Spanish inquisitions take place and no matter
how many Hitlers come and go?????????
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: another dream team/ Fast Fourier Transform - complex plane.
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:13:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug15.002024.8955@news.Hawaii.Edu>, vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu
(Vijay Fafat) writes...
>...... (stuff deleted) ..... 
>Hey, Prabhu, reel in Raveena Tandon saru. Time for some more action :)
>Arindam, take a break in the Bahamas. :) Raghavan buster has predicted you 
>topping this fortnight, beating Commie Deb :)
> 
>Gotcha Gangster

 Hi there fella:

 Some info for ya. Lemme know what ya make of it ASAP.

 (1) Arindam Ghosh in a private call told me that he is renouncing the world
     and returning to the Himalayas - to escape the Umrikun beauts that are
     haunting his brain and ..... Bahamas is out a question boss ! :)

 (2) Deb Commie was almost losing to a wimmin from the south. Gawd saved him.
     Question: will there be anymore termagantish attacks on Deb Commie ? The
     guy (Deb) is scared stiff at the thought of an amazonian broad coming and
     taking him by ..... 

 (3) Whois Raveena Tandon, man ? Not the Brazalian Sonia case, I hope !

 - chao,

  deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)

 Light of the Day: The generalized hard-Fock integral for use in OTH radars
                   can be evaluated by FFT.
From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
Keywords: satti
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:58:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug12.035438.2679@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, vedati@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Keshavprasad Vedati  ECE-GRAD) writes:
> In article <1992Aug11.142009.12725@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth) writes:
> >
> >Pandu's wife Maadri entered his pyre. So Sati was practised even
> >during those ancient times. 
> >
> >Sati WAS/IS part of Hindu practices.
> >
> >
> >RKP
> 
> Just because I happen to be a hindu does not necessarily mean that 
> whatever I practice constitutes a hindu practice. 
  ^^^^^^^^

Sure. Not everything that you practice are Hindu customs. Aren't
somethings that you practice Hindu practices ?

>
> Applying the same yard stick
> I should say that bride burning is also a hindu practice. We should 
> distinguish between a religious practice and a personal act. 

Applying the same yard stick, caste system is not a Hindu practice
but a personal act. 

Can you give me an example of a heinious Hindu practice ? There
is none, because we can always say that any practice is a personal 
act.

> There is a
> case where a girl immolated herself unable to live without her husband
> who had been killed by her relatives. Of course that happened to be a 
> case of inter-caste love marriage. This happened in Andhra sometime 
> back.

I dont see where this fits in.

> Using the same yard stick can you say having five husbands is also a 
> hindu practice.(DRAUPADI).
>

I was merely trying to point out that Sati was prevalent during 
the time of Vyasa, contrary to the other claims that were posted.
If the practices of his time were not Hindu practices, I dont
know what they are. 

>                           With regards 
>                         Vedati K.P.
>   

RKP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gaur@cs.sfu.ca (Daya Gaur)
Subject: Re: ADVISOR CALLS
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.224017.2576@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>As Samit has correctly surmised: My advisor was  out of town
>So bye: No I am not paid for this: no Bahai is.
>Any way I have better things to do like organizing racial unity
>meetings.
>So bye
>Arindam
>

" It may have been that Mr. &*^$%  was right on the verge of
divining more about God than a mortal ought to- "

							From The Iguana By Tennessee Williams.


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From: taqi@masada.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Taqi Hasan)
Subject: Multiple-Entry H-1 - Please reply!
Organization: Novell NPD, Sandy, Utah
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:33:48 GMT


Hi guys!  I am on a H-1 visa and I am planning to go to U.K. in 
December.  Is there any risk involved in getting a multiple-entry
from London.  My Lawyer says it makes no difference where you get
the visa from; be it Mexico, U.K. or India.  Is there anyone
out there who has experience getting multiple-entry from any
country in Europe.  Any replies would be welcome.

-- 
*******************************************************************************
Taqi Hasan                                          NWU Group
Internet: taqi_hasan@npd.novell.com           	   Novell, Inc.
*******************************************************************************
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.Indian or Islam or Hinduism??
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:26:58 GMT
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

>
>
>>All I am doing is to raise the cry which reverberated throughout India
>>2500 years ago:
>>Buddham Saranam Gachchhami
>>(Come to the protection of Buddha)
>>Dhammam Sharanam gachchhami
>>(Come to the ETERNAL RELIGION)
>              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>Sangham Saranam Gachchhami
>>(Come to the protection of the Order)
>
>The "eternal religion" is to permit each individual to establish
>his/her "protocol" with his/her spiritual conceptualizations and
>the moment we talk of the true "protocol", be it named Islam or
>Christianity or Shiva-worship or Bahai faith, we are moving away from
>the eternal religion.
I showed in the last post how eternal religion is "just not any person's
individual theory"

>
>The social order is a thing different from the above "protocol."
>Is Bahai faith recommending a social order in which the multitude
>of "protocols" may prosper and survive?
> 

The Bahai faith is recommending a protocol which every individual who
calls himeself a Bahai should follow. The rest of the world is requested
to join it on their own free-will. We know they will not untill social
conditions become such that there's no other way but following it. We are
prepared to wait.


>What "protocol" am I supposed to follow if I am a Bahai-faith follower?
>If I am free to follow any "protocol" then what makes me a Bahai, as 
>distinct from a non-Bahai?
>
I think the above answers it
>
>>Arindam
>>
>
>Well, 
>
>
>--- raj
Well, I know people under delusion will not see the truth and continue arguing.
But there are some people who want to know and find truth for themselves.
Arindam

>
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@daffy.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Re: FAQ- List of Baby Names : A Really idle observation.
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:24:47 GMT

In article <2881@ucl-cs.uucp> B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:
>
>In request to many recent requests for baby names, here is one short list
>of "short and somewhat modern names". Both boys and girls names are listed.
>This is an edited or revised version of the list earlier posted on SCI by 
>someone.
>
>  < List of names deleted >

   Going thru the list of female names, one may observe that most female
   names end with 'a' or 'i'.

   Seems we guys have a wide choice in the last letters of our names, if
   not in clothing.....
>
   BTW, I'm very hurt that my name was not included in the list. Sulk.

   Ruchir.
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Death of a Poet
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:31:28 GMT
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Aug13.175701.18135@uceng.UC.EDU>, rbhatnag@uceng.UC.EDU (raj bhatnagar) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.164405.10972@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>
>[About the poet who got killed by some criminals]
>
>>but if this person was a Bahai: 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>Indian Government would have had hell to pay for in the
>>international forumns for this if they did not punish the criminals.
>
>Excuse me Arindam, but your Bahai-universalism is showing!
>
Your Islam-paranoia is showing.


>I mean you would drag Indian Govt. in the international fora
>*only if* this person was a Bahai? Are bahais some kind of
>super humans? What if the dead-poet was only a non-bahai
>simple religious/irreligious person? Would your rage melt down
>to sub-zero level in that case?
On what authority can the Bahais approach the UN if the person is not
a Bahai: there are so many individuals under oppression: whom should
I help?

 as an Indian of course I will do whatever I can. If you cared
to wait instead of showing your paranoia you would have seen that I
suggested something; when you are taking this opportunity only to show your
own paranoia. 

Arindam

>
>Your talk of universalism being the spirit of Bahai'ism doesn't seem
>right in the context of your above reaction.
>
>
>>UN resolution would have been passed to throw anybody out of the Government
>>who wants to protect such oafs and then come in UN forumns and preach
>>democracy. One day when we grow we will erect a monument for him and
>>preserve his work. His blood has not been lost.
>>Arindam
>>
>
>
>---raj
>
>
From: nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar)
Subject: Re: INDIANS AND SEX
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:26:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.141612.703@cis.ohio-state.edu> subbu@cis.ohio-state.edu (rajesh subbu) writes:
>
>Indians and SEX.
>
>"They have sex in their brains, not where it should be" (pooja bedis words)
>

Let's just say we Indians believe in the concept of the brain being the ultimate erogenous zone. BTW, I'm curious. Where exactly does Ms. Bedi think sex should actually *be* ??

>Now my words.
>
>I do endorse the words in quotes. I believe Indians in general are hypocritical about sex, just as the americans are in saying "SHOOT" when they actually mean "SHIT".
>

Well, I for one always say SHIT when I mean SHOOT:

Y' know, recently I went to shit some rapids.
Wanna shit some pool ?
I shat the sherrif, but I did not shit the deputy ...

etc ...

:) :)

>Any comments and flames very welcome
>
>

**sridhar**
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:04:50 -0400 
From: "Arun K. Gupta" <ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Muslim Intolerance



Mr. Dinkar Bhat, Mr. Dinesh Agrawal: you are well aware there
is racism in this country. Does that make you spit at every
white American that you meet ? On the contrary, you have come
quite willingly to this country and you say -- racism is from
the bad people, but not all people are bad.

It seems, however, that the words Muslim and Islam short circuits
something in your head. Yes, we all should be angry at what goes
on in the Middle East with the Indian workers. (Ask Pakistanis --
they are Muslim, but they are not treated very much better.) But
transferring your anger from a specific set of people to the whole
population is stupid. I don't expect logical consistency, but by
the same reasoning you should be joining some black-power movement.
You should also recognize the total illegitimacy of caste Hindus
because all of them, of course, are responsible for oppressing the
lower castes for the last two thousand years or more, and so on.

-arun gupta
ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: sic gloria transit mundi [Was Re: Curious observation.]
Keywords: Mundane matters.
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:30:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.154406.22441@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.024909.16797@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>>   Suggesting that sari derives from the sanskrit 'sati'.
>>   And the hindu garment part.
>>   Any comments.
>
>Maybe it's combustible properties are of value in sati and bride
>burning? Levi's don't burn that easily. 
>George


How come you get away with such comments, while I get flamed to
my death, if I do so ?


i hope not-your-sibling-but-to-us-u-r-siblings   susan chacko will
duust your brain of such thoughts.


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: ar097@mesrx.UUCP (anand ramamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Visa Fees from India?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:59:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Measurex Inc. Cupertino, Ca

In article <1992Aug10.234035.16175@ecst.csuchico.edu> vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
>
>The fees is presently $$50.00, and it has been imposed as a reciprocal 
>measure. A 5-year multiple entry visa costs $$100.00 at present.

The fees is $25.00 for short (4 month) visit. My wife & son go it on Jul.
20. It was $100.00 for 5 year multiple entry when I got it on Jun. 05.

anandR

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sidnag@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (siddhartha.nag)
Subject: A Turd from Ohio
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:32:17 GMT

A Turd from Ohio, with brains so few
Was the prime cronie of a gal from Purdue
 He cried.. Man-O-Man
 When she dumped him and went to Japan
And now he plays with his emacs gnu


Sid




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From: indran@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: sic gloria transit mundi [Was Re: Curious observation.]
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:39:27 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

> 
>>2] A mundu was a practical thing.
>>   Crossing flooded paddy fields, getting clothes out of the way
> 
> how about the streets of Cochin after a rain?
> 
> Seriously, a mundu is the only practical cloth during monsoon(as I
> found out the hard way this summer)... unless of course you enjoy the 
> feeling of soaking wet jeans on you...
> 
> On the asthetic side, I think a mundu looks better than pants(jeans) on
> someone who is rather well build...
> 

You missed something more important....such as during police lathi charge
or when jumping over fence. In both cases if mundu is caught (by the police 
or by the fence) you can run away by releasing mundu, without even stopping. 

ravi
From: jss@dhruva.caltech.edu (Jagmit S. Sandhu)
Subject: DESI JOKES 3
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:05:44 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Keywords: Is it just me amd why not HE?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:41:39 GMT

In article <susanc.714318580@keckiris> susanc@rice.edu (susan chacko) writes:

>Speaking as an alleged liberal, I find the desire to consciously
>avoid signs of ethnicity as depressing as the need to flaunt it. 

Life must indeed be dreary then with all these cares.

>Shocking, isn't it? Such discontent in the face of all these clothing
>options!!! On the other hand, one wonders why men are not more incensed
>at their lack of these options.

Perhaps because clothing is of less importance than Gujju jokes.

G

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian