From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: celtic frost questions
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:12:22 GMT

In article <37841@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.193857.18177@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep6.143856.17610@kth.se> d90-two@negru.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Celtic Frost:
>>>>
>>>>Morbid Tales <Mini-LP.> Still my favorite. 1985 (84?)
>>>>Emperors Return <12"> 1986 (85?)
>>>>To Mega Therion <album> 1986
>>>Tradic Serenades <EP> 1986 (Three remixed/re-recorded songs)
>>>>Into The Pandemonium <LP> 1987-88? (87)
>>>>Cold Lake <LP> 1989 (Maybe 88?)
>>>>Vanity/Nemesis <LP> 1990-91?
>>>Parched With Thirst I Am And Dying <comp> 1992 (old goodies, unreleased things,
>>>remixed/re-recorded stuff, and two new songs)
>>>>
>>>>"Vanity/Nemesis" is supposedly a return to the "Morbid Tales" lineup, and
>>>>style, but I have never seen a copy. 
>
>	The lineup for "Vanity/Nemesis" consists of Warrior, Ain, Priestly
>(who was not a member of CF for "Morbid Tales" though he played drums
>on the album) and Curt Victor Bryant.  Ron Marks (who was a member of
>the band one time) plays guitar on a few tracks.  The style is similar
>to traditional CF (i.e. not "Cold Lake") -- it's a good album, but
>not quite their best ...
>
>>>Most people seems to like MT, ER and TMT. MT and ER are available on one CD
>>>nowadays, I'm not sure if there are more songs on it than on the original
>>>EP's. A track listing, someone? (Of the EP's. I have the CD)
>
>	Personally I think "Into The Pandemonium" is their best effort.
>Sure, it had the first weak cuts like "I Can't Dance" and "Mexican
>Radio", but it also had some of their best songs too.  I'd rate
>"Morbid Tales" next, then "Vanity", then "Therion", and then (very
>far behind, of course) "Cold Lake"(.
>
>>>"Into The Pandemonium" commercial??? It's almost too weird even for me...
>
>	I wouldn't call it commercial at all save the two tracks I just
>mentioned.  It was definitely experimental, and weird -- but just
>heavy enough and with just enough of the earlier CF trademarks to 
>make it great ...
>
>>>There are 3 tracks (of 14) from "Cold Lake" on the compilation, and...
>>>I like both "Juices Like Wine" and "Cherry Orchards"! Is there something
>>>wrong with me or are these songs the only two listenable?
>
>	I found myself liking all three "Cold Lake" tracks from 
>"Parched ..." -- enough so that I really should go back and listen to
>the rest of "CL" again.  Mind you, these new versions have been remixed
>and re-recorded ...
>
>>As for "Cold Lake", I think it is pretty ridiculous, and all the songs are
>>disappointing. I find "Cherry Orchards" pretty funny, though. What is the
>>track listing for the Compilation album, and where were the songs Drawn from?
>
>	(grouped by source, not in order)
>
>	Idols Of Chagrin / Under Apollyon's Sun
>
>		(completely new tracks.  The first is poor, the second very
>		 good)
>
>	Juices Like Wine / Cherry Orchards / Downtown Hanoi
>
>		(re-recorded, from "Cold Lake")
"Cherry Orchards" is actually not remixed/re-recorded. The liner note says
"radio edit".
>
>	Wings Of Solitude / The Name Of My Bride / The Heart Beneath
>
>		(straight from "Vanity".  Not the best tracks from that album,
>		 but not bad)
>
>	Circle Of The Tyrants (straight from "IMT")
>	The Usurper (straight from "Tragic Serenades")
Which, one might add, is a remix of the TMT song, with new bass line.
>	Return To The Eve (unreleased version)
Wasn't this one also on "Tradic Serenades"?
>	Mexican Radio (1991 studio version)
>	A Descent To Babylon (EP B-side from the "Vanity" sessions)
>	The Inevitable Factor (unreleased -- 1987)
>	Journey Into Fear (unreleased -- 1985)
>	In The Chapel In The Moonlight (rare EP track)
And a cover of a Dean Martin song...
>	I Won't Dance ("radio edit")
>	Tristesses De La Lune (left over from the "Pandemonium" sessions)
This was actually on some editions of Pandemium... my CD for example.
>	
>
>	Hope this helps ...
Me too...

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