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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Eclipse
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:02:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, karsten@netcom.com (karsten) says:

>> I didn't realize you'd really want to know.  Isn't one net.woman enough to
>> handle?
>
>Although I have enough restraints... I'd set you up with a friend.
>How about a UToledo CS prof?

Sorry, I don't do velvet handcuffs....:-)  Of course, CS profs are fun people,
but Ohio is a bit far to travel to play hide the e-prong.<grin>

>>>> [Thbbbbbbbp!]  
>>> Ah.  So that's how you tried to keep warm.
>>> Is it a Hitachi?
>> That Japanese pig iron?  No way;
>You prefer "Proudly made in the USA"?

Not especially; I just like quality.:-)

>> it was a raspberry.
>Whatever works for you.
>
>(I've heard of cucumbers and zucchini, but a raspberry?)
>
Can't make jam from cukes or zuccini....:-)  And this girl does know how
to do jams...raspberry, strawberry, mango...I even tried persimmon butter
once.<yum>  
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: enclosed solicitation -- anyone else get one?
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          Ignore it. Electronic junk mail is just like any other junk mail. For
        some reason a lot of people seem to feel compelled to react somehow when
        they get electronic junk mail, or read the outpourings of email lunatics
,
        but not when they get ordinary junk mail or come across weird
        political or religious printed matter.

Exactly. That's why i always pursue junk paper mail till I find out
where they got my address from at which point I make them suffer: I have
a collection of photocopies of ticket details I filled in for umpteen
computer shows each of which clearly has written on it NO JUNK MAIL,
DO NOT ENTER THIS NAME IN ANY COMPUTER DATABASE, I EXPRESSLY FORBID
PERMISSION FOR MY NAME TO BE SOLD ON MAILING LISTS.

Some of these people lie through their teeth: 'No sir, we've never sold
the list for that conference to *anybody*'  They usually change their
mind when I fax them the registration form and explain that I use
a different name for every conference/show.  (I was Theophilus van Dyck
at the last CD show...; Miles O'Toole at the one before that :-) )

Anyone who says 'ignore it' clearly hasn't had his share of junk mail down
his own paid-for phone line...

G
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Identification etc
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>     Digression:  Two young women are standing in front of a male nude
>     marble statue.  One says to the other, "But it doesn't look real.
>     Real ones are much bigger, and they stick straight out."
>          -Playboy (I think.)
>
> * Alt-Brad *

Has anyone else noticed that in most art, particularly sculpture,
the <sinclair> is rendered much smaller than it really is in
"real life" in *most* cases?  Does anyone know the reason for this?
Something to do with what the classical artists considered aesthetically
pleasing or what?  What I say is true....  on most statues, it is
roughly the size of the statue's little pinkie...  Now, that is a wee
bit undersized, I think.  Maybe Bill Clinton knows the answer to
this one.  Or -abh?
--ggs
p.s.  This is *not* part of the TP game....  it has not begun yet,
as far as I know.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:26:15 EST
From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (72
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We used to sing it this way:

>  We Three Kings of Orientar,
>  Tried to smoke the Rubber Cigar.
>  It was loaded, it exploded . . . . . .

   . . . . . God rest ye merry gentlemen

Bill
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Graham and his cuteness
Date: 21 Dec 1992 05:00:54 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal) says:

>:Ruth, I have it on good authority that Graham *likes* it when people
>:say he's cute.
>
>No, you misunderstood - what I whispered in the back of the car was that I
>liked it when _you_ called me cute :)

Graham, I wish I could say I didn't know you had it in you, but the correct
line [judging from the above] it's more like I didn't know you'd had *him*
in you.:-) [Now, can I believe I just typed that?  Yes. <sigh>]

>Normally my reaction to comments like that is 'Grrrrrr!!!!' except when I
>realised karen was doing things like that on purpose because she's turned
>on by men growling...  Grrrr.  Oh shit, I've done it again.  Grrr! Ahh!
>
Growling makes me feel right at home too, Graham, especially when done with
that wild Scots accent.  It sounds just like a purring cat....  The only
difference is that cats don't use FCC-vorboten words when thye're purring.:-)
[just when they're telling their humans to let them *O*U*T*, *N*O*W*]

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:32:36 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: So is this bit.listserv stuff working?
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>On Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:35:22 GMT, BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU wrote:
>> Carolyn, what does "to come the raw prawn with s.o." mean?
>
>What we in Scotland call 'to act the daft laddie'.  To feign ignorance
>(or in our circles, newbieness).  A useful technique when committing
>minor traffic infringements in foreign countries, for instance.
>
>G

It seems that being without UGA really upset me yesterday..... Graham is
right also... I only interpreted it from the point of view of 'someone
coming the raw prawn with me'.... that is the most common usage.... whereas
Graham looked at it from the perspective of "being a raw prawn". :-)

Carolyn
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Ruth's Turn
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>I don't *think* Jimmy has a pilot's license.  To my knowledge, no president
>has had one, unless you count George Bush's WWII stuff.  It could easily
>have been Jimmy Carter, but he got called Peanut Farmer and worse. He was
>more likely to be called the Flaming Idiot rather than Flying Peanut.
>
>--
>                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###

Seems Jimmy could be Joh's little brother... he's often been called that too.
IMO though, after seeing an interview with Jimmy Carter on TV only a few days
ago, I am convinced that he's the best, still-living, ex-President you have.
Joh and Flo, his wife, who was elected to Parliament on the basis of her
pumpkin scone recipe, seem to have been keeping a very low profile lately now
that they have retired from politics.

Carolyn
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:32:04 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NEAT!
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Posted on 19 Dec 1992 at 22:59:34 by Natalie Maynor

>NEAT!
>
>Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:56:37 CST
>Reply-To:     English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@UGA.BITNET>
>From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
>
>Even the Golden Triangle Regional Airport, serving Starkville, West Point,
>and Columbus, has data phones now!  I love it!  So here I stand online
>while awaiting Judith's plane, which is gonna be 35 mins late.  Sure wish
>these data phones were free.  I guess I probably shouldn't stay online
>from now till 10:30.

They (assuming you mean the AT&T Public Phone 2000) seem to be free to
Canadians.  Evidently the billing arrangements between AT&T and the
various Canadian telephone companies don't extend to the data portion
of the call.  That in turn seems to knock the phone call portion
out as well.  I have used them several times from US locations and
have yet to get a bill.  Go AT&T!

Tony H.
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:41:16 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      New words-L gif service
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If anyone wants to fax me pictures to .gif and post to ra.msstate, email
me and we'll set up a time to do it. The fax would be rec'd on the Mac and
translated to gif. It'll never be as good as scanning hardcopy, but it
will be a heck of a lot faster.

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:35:46 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: End of Year Retrospective
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>> See you all Sunday,
>> -rashmi
>
>At my party!  Don't forget:  Sunday, Dec. 20, between 2 and 6 p.m.,
>211 South Nash, Starkville, MS.  BE HERE!!
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

*I* will!  Who else???

love, judith
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 06:39:23 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Geometry of Boxes and Jugs
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>   Do you remember just what made these math majors so boring? Alan Adler had

It was a long time ago.  I don't remember thinking so much that math majors
were actively boring as that English majors were actively interesting.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:19:15 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Burke again
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> Subj: Burke again

>   7. Rattlesnake water melons.

> Check Paul Simon's The Myth of Finger Prints
 on the Graceland album.
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:40:12 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: The Royal Dysfunctional Family
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        That is why the obligation on whomever the current royal stud is, is to
        produce only an heir and a spare.
*cough-splutter-chortle-chortle* - I hope you don't mean Edward!

G
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:32:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Unprecedented Chicago journalism

: It rains a lot?

Hey, Doris, do you remember the NFL Championship game of December
31, 1967?

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:32:16 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Was Wondering; tense
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On Thu, 10 Dec 1992 19:52:07 CST, "Gerald Walton" <VCGW@UMSVM.BITNET> wrote:
> Anybody have ideas about why we (or at least some of us) use past--I
> guess it is technically past progressive--tense in certain sutuations
> when present progressive would probably be more  nearly correct? For
> example, I found myself calling somebody on telephone and saying, "I
> was calling about that Toyota you are advertising." Then I thought to
> myself, Why didn't I say "am calling"? I was at a flea market (looking

I don't know.  I say "I'm calling about..."

> for old fountain pens, of course).  A vendor asked a woman, "Are you
> interested in that frying pan?" Her response was "I was thinking about
> it." Why past? Is the logic "A second ago before you interrupted me

"I *was* thinking about it, but you're being pushy so you can just FRO."

> with your question, I was thinking about it"? (I think there is a
> television ad for AT&T that has a similar example, but I can't
> remember it--maybe something like my "I was calling" or "I was
> wondering.")

Seriously, in general if I say "I was ..." it literally was in the
past.  "Hi - I was just coming up to see you and here you are on
the stairs coming down to see me..." etc.  If the action is still
continuing I'm fairly sure I always say "I am ..."

I think the distinction is between people who talk on automatic and
people who think about what they're going to say before they say it.
It's the same difference between people who drive completely automatically
and people who are *consciously* aware of everything that's going on
around them.  The same difference between people who see someone throwing
something at them and catch it by reflex and people who see something
thrown at them and consciously evaluate whether it's likely to be
painful to catch (like a bunch of keys) and *decide* whether to catch
it or let it drop in the same space of time

G
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Subject:      Chess: 31. and Chess books

Greetings,

30. Kf2-f3

Here is the full citation for the book I mentioned earlier:
    Test your chess IQ by August Livshitz.  Pergamon Press, 1988

My copy is a second edition.  It contains 458 positions broken into
56 "tests" on the following themes: double attack; discovered attack;
discovered check; the pin; diversion; decoy; interference; defense
elimination; square vacation; line-opening; utilization of open files;
diagonal opening; utilization of open diagonals; blocking; 'X-ray' (the
penetrating action of pieces); overloading of pieces; exploiting a back
rank weakness; weakness of the second rank; intermediate move (Zwischenzug);
creation and utilization of passed pawns; simplifying combinations;
drawing combinations by perpetual check; stalemating combinations; mating
combinations based on geometrical motifs--schematic diagrams; attack on the
K-side castled position; attack on the K caught in the center;
destructive combinations (where the aim is to destroy the opposing Ks
pawn cover.

Volume on has ISBN 0-08-032064-3 in "flexicover."  I don't have volume 2
here in BG, but it has tests similar to those in volume 1 and at a more
advanced level of difficulty.

Marty
From: harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell)
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On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:

> All the cats I've ever had, including this one, demanded praise for their
> mice catches by bringing them to the front door still barely alive.... and
> wouldn't kill it and eat it until they had received a pat and a 'well-done

Mine too! Plus, I used to have a cat who was evidently part of some
strange cult that demanded sacrifices in threes: three rats, three black
birds, always placed in a row, uneaten until the "good kitty" was
pronounced. But I put a stop to her hijinx when she started bringing three
half-rats to the porch...

-abh
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Grammatical question...
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>Was it alive or dead when he handed it off?

Well and truly dead!

>My cat has brought live animals
>into the house before - she caught them and wanted to play with them indoors!
>[this is the other cat -the one with no brains]  The other cat tends to have
>a "snack" if he kills what he catches.:-)

All the cats I've ever had, including this one, demanded praise for their
mice catches by bringing them to the front door still barely alive.... and
wouldn't kill it and eat it until they had received a pat and a 'well-done
pussy' from a human member of the household..... that always seemed to me a very
human thing to do..... demanding praise for a job well done. :-)

>I think dogs like smelly stuff for some reason; the like "seasoned" meat better
>than fresh....

Ours doesn't but then she is strange in many ways. She prefers fresh leftovers
from the dinner table - won't eat canned dog food at all and prefers Whiskettes
to dry dog food... no problem though, the cat prefers the dog food. Which
reminds me ..... at a recent Christmas Party my second son invited me to, they
were serving some type of canapes (I didn't try them, so I couldn't tell what
they were). My son remarked that they tasted like dry dog food.... I knew he'd
tried snails when he was little but I didn't know about that. :-)

>Did the dog eat it?  If  not, it probably wasn't ripe
>enough yet.
>
>--
>                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###

I'm not completely certain but I think the nextdoor neighbour's dog.... the
most stupid Great Dane, I've ever seen.... ate it when he came over on his
nightly forage for food.

Carolyn
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:43:49 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?
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:>           Jesus, I got back on the Internet a few days ago I decided it was

:I find this profanity offensive. Such usage should not be allowed.
:Disrespect for religion or fundamental and basic beliefs of any kind
:is a form of bigotry.

:Challenging the hypocrisy of religious advocates is an entirely
:different, and legitimate subject.

Fuck the pope!  Is this guy serious or is he just trying to
start a flame war?

G
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Subject:      Re: Assisting the police in their inquiries
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Posted on 17 Dec 1992 at 11:53:36 by Anne Burton Harwell
>say it's high damn time to get onto Netcom now before they can criticize
>him more. Hear me, John? Fuck 'em!

I certainly don't disagree with the sentiment.  I was appalled to
hear this little story!  But I wonder.... if John even telnets to
Netcom (or freenet, or wherever) from his school's machine, isn't
any business he conducts on company time, *via* a company machine,
subject to the same strictures?

Karen
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:26:14 GMT

ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:

>I will never forget my first Christmas party w/ our 'new' univ. president:
>he thought I was one of the campus janitorial staff.

Once at a Christmas party a certain dean thought I was the chairman of the
Psychology Dept...but then, he was horribly drunk at the time and looking
for his missing dog. 

A couple months later he was looking for his missing wife, too...pity.

--Aaron

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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Freenet
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        Ruth & Graham, thanks for setting me straight.

Well I never!

G
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:25:28 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Assisting the police in their inquiries
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        >is using a copy of an e-mail message I SENT TO SOMEONE ELSE to accuse
        >me of "unprofessial conduct" [that should be unprofessional, not
        >unprofessorial] and something else that inhibited rage prevents me

How did he get it?  From the other person or by <nefarious means>?

Could be the other person is the one committing the slander by publishing
your private letter.  Although in the UK letters are the property of
the recipient, in the US I believe they are the property of the sender
(with full copyright reserved).

If he didn't get it from the intended recipient, he could have commited
a criminal offence.

However, knowing your big mouth you probably deserve all you get :-)
(Say, this wasn't mail commenting about your postmaster was it?)

G
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:48:45 EST
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      fun word I'd somehow never seen before (fwd)
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Forwarded message:
> From 2047029@MVS.Rutgers.EDU Fri Dec 11 23:48:07 1992
> Message-Id: <9212120444.AA19339@asylum.sf.ca.us>
> Date:    Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:42 EST
> To: void@asylum.sf.ca.us
> From: David <2047029@MVS.RUTGERS.EDU>
> Subject: fun word I'd somehow never seen before
>
> lifemanship: the art or practice of achieving superiority or an
> appearance of superiority over other people (as in conversation
> or business) by perplexing and demoralizing them -- compare
> _gamesmanship,_ _one-upmanship._
>
> lifeman: one who practices lifemanship.
>
> (Webster's Third New International Dictionary)
>
> --David, frequent reader of dictionaries
>
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Graham and his cuteness
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:26:30 GMT

In article <1h3e0eINN6o9@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST403231@brownvm.brown.edu (Frank) writes:
:Ruth, I have it on good authority that Graham *likes* it when people
:say he's cute.

No, you misunderstood - what I whispered in the back of the car was that I
liked it when _you_ called me cute :)

Normally my reaction to comments like that is 'Grrrrrr!!!!' except when I
realised karen was doing things like that on purpose because she's turned
on by men growling...  Grrrr.  Oh shit, I've done it again.  Grrr! Ahh!

G
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