From: endevour@next04epsl.wam.umd.edu (.)
Subject: Re: Cultura dar Afghanistan
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:47:11 GMT

In article <BuED88.JGH@ucunix.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu  
(Zafar T Minhas) writes:
> In article <92254.153121WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  
WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Walid Majid) writes:
> >>In article <babak.715478027@vlsi1> babak@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Babak  
Sehari)
> >>writes:
> >>
> >>Afghan, means load scream from pain or sorrow.  Afghanistan was part  
of
> >>origional Iran, which was forced out of Iran by England around 100 or  
so
> >>years
> >>ago.
> >>
> >>
> >well, do you know what eeran (iran) means?  it means this thigh!
> >come on snap out of it.  get a major clue as they say here in
> >california.  what is this claim of yours which amounts to nothing but
> >garbage.  first of all what is original iran?  from your sentence it
> >sounds like original iran existed arond 100 years or so ago, as you
> >so poetically put it.  so what was in place of "original iran" before
> >let's say 500 years ago?  do you refer to that as the original original
> >original original ..... eeran?
> >
> >and what is this thing about england forcing afghanistan out of iran?
> >as most sane people know it, it was us afghans who fought the british,
> >and it was you iranians who were good allies of the british ( they
> >actually ruled iran during those days, but then i digress).  so as
> >logic would dictate, most people would agree that the british would  
have
> >loved to keep afghanistan a part of the original iran, if in fact
> >afghanistan was a part of the, you guessed it, original iran.
> >
> >so mr. original iranian, please read about the true history of your
> >country, using real history books written by real historians, and stop
> >offending your neighbors.
> >
> >cheers,
> >
> >wam
> 
> so how about some muslim brotherhood?
> 
> zafar minhas

Sure things. But you know what we learned a different lesson during the  
years of Jihad. The lesson says that anybody who talks of brother hood  
among Muslims is yet another hypocrite with a politicized mission. In fact  
that individual cares less for Islam and Jihad and cares more for finding  
ways and means to further exploit a war torn and simple minded people. So  
as Abraham Lincon said, you can not fool all of the people all of the  
time. Sorry we are now " brother hood wise". 

But then why not. I mean it is great to promote brotherhood among Muslim  
brothers and maybe as a display of such a brotherhood the Pakistani  
government whose members,I assume (?), are devoted Muslims can show some  
fear of God and stop the massacre they have staged in Kabul. 

Similarly the God fearing Government of Iran who, by their support of  
Wahdat party in Kabul, have opened the Pendora box of mistrust and civil  
war in Afghanistan can lay off and let the wounds of Afghans war heal a  
little bit.

And yes let us not forget the Saudi's and their "nobel" cause to promote  
Wahabism in the ranks of Islam and by doing so bring about Islamic  
harmony. Well I think you get the picture.  

In your next posting you seem to be impressed by some saying by Hasan ul 
Bana. Maybe so. Unfortunately what Hasan ul Bana started turned into yet  
another tool for manipulation of the down trodden and poor Muslims of the  
world.  A good example of how Hasan ul Banan's dream has been turned into 
a nightmare is clear in Mr. Hekmatyar ,the Ameeeeer of Hezb-e-Islami's  
mission to turn Kabul to dust if he does not get what he wants. Talk of  
Islamic brother hood and tolerance. These people are not Muslim. If they  
really beleive in what God had told them to do they would never commit the  
crimes they are committing daily against their Muslim brothers and  
sisters. So it is a little bit too much to swallow the sincerity of some  
brain washed individuals who either knowingly or out of down right  
stupidity talk of some Utopian dreams. But let me not digress, let me give  
you some more examples of Islamic brother hood as we know it.

Well,  Islamic brotherhood showed up in the Arab Hospitals in Peshawar and  
Quetta cities of Pakistan where you had to be a member of Sayaf's party to  
get admittance. Islamic brotherhood showed in the doors steps of ISI where  
the poor Mujahedin would not get a single bullet if they did not sell  
their soul to the devils who run that house of horror. Islamic brotherhood  
was apparant in the relief agents who empbezzled millions in relief goods  
meant for the poor Afghan refugees. Islamic brotherhood also was quite  
shining in the deserts of Saudi where a hundred thousand Iraqi soldiers,  
driven by their mad leaders were simply burried alive. And let us not  
forget the brotherhood that forced Iran to send millions of its sons to  
death in order to fight a useless war against Iraq. 

Enough of this double standard. Let us just live in our countries and  
until we are not civilized enough to accept some basic human rights maybe  
we shoud just hold our peace and avoid getting ourselves and the rest of  
humanity in trouble. 

Today that Afghanistan is weak and is just recently bled to death,  its  
Islamic brotheres are out knife and fork in their hands to devour the rest  
of this corpse. Such jestures are apparant in the remarks of the BROTHER  
who claimed that Afhganistan was once part of Iran. Maybe Pakistan also  
dreams of adding Afghanistan to its North West frontier province. Well why  
not. Islam knows no boundries, right? Well for your information the  
boundry stops in Afghanistan. We are happily Muslims but we do not need  
Saudi Sheikhs, fresh from Monte Carlo, or corrupt Pakistani officer or  
fanatic Iranian Passdar to cross our border. No thanks we have enough  
perverts on our own. We are happy with what we are and who we are and do  
not need further instructions or aid from our back stabbing neighbours or  
sympatizesers. 'Nuf said.