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From: kk@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Ken Kittlitz)
Subject: Re: Famous Last Words???
Organization: University of Calgary
	<1993Jan1.001423.10225@nntp.hut.fi> <1993Jan2.142841.22232@kth.se>
	<NS14.93Jan2161848@crux3.crux2.cit.cornell.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:16:44 GMT


Here's a couple.  Sorry if there are any inaccuracies, or if someone has
already posted these.

An officer in the US Civil War was inspecting his troops
while enemy snipers were active.  When warned to be careful, he said:

	"Are you kidding?  They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist--"

and collapsed, shot through the head.


A pilot friend of mine mentioned that when the "black box" is recovered
from an airplane crash site, the last words on it are usually something
like "OHHHHHH SHIIIIIITTTT!!!!".   But in one instance, the captain is
clearly heard to say:

	"Point your toes; we're going in deep!"


							Ken
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From: isaacman@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Subvert the Dominant Paradigm! (301) 513-7769)
Subject: Re: Simple one
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:37:00 GMT

In article <schwartz.725040572@cunews>, schwartz@alfred.carleton.ca (Saul Schwartz) writes...
>Does anyone know the quotation to the effect that explanations should
>be made as simple as possible but no simpler?
> 
It is not a "quotation" per se, but rather a deductive principle 
commonly known as "Occam's Razor"  (sometimes spelled Ockham) stating 
that a hypothesis should embody the minimum possible number of 
assumptions.  (Note that this is NOT the same as being "as simple as 
possible", which is the usual misapplication of the tenet.)  The 
individual Occam I vaguely recall to have been an Englishman around
Isaac Newton's era, but I could be totally off base about that.

Rich Isaacman
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
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From: jaw@magoo.uucp (Jeff Weisberg)
Subject: Reagan
Reply-To: jaw@magoo.UUCP (Jeff Weisberg)
Organization: A maze of twisty little postings, all unread
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:24:01 GMT


We cannot stop at the foothills when Everest lies ahead.
		-- Ronald Reagan

-jeff
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Subject: Re: Prime Minister Quote
From: pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:03:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <1993Jan2.125339.4367@daimi.aau.dk> nixon@daimi.aau.dk (S|ren Tranholm) writes:

>Hi Folks !
>I like your <Presidental> quotes>

>Here is a quote from the Danish Prime Minister:

> "There is nothing under the carpet"

> He said that under a governmental scandal about the Tamils

..and one from an ex-PM of New Zealand:

  "This verbal agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on"

Peter.
--
    pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz || peterg@kcbbs.gen.nz || peter@nacjack.gen.nz
			      (In order of preference)
From: rcbaaw@rw6.urc.tue.nl (Angelo Wentzler)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Freek de Jonge on quotations
Keywords: keyhole, keyboard, keyclick, whiskey, monkey
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:43:37 GMT
Reply-To: rcbaaw@urc.tue.nl

One of my favorite quotes by one of my favorite comedians is the following one
(dutch followed by a translation):

"`Ik wil niet geciteerd worden'"

"`I do not want to be quoted'"

For the fact-fetish among you: the single quotes are part of the quoted text.

Angelo Wentzler
From: pmh2962@tamsun.tamu.edu (Pat Hayes)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: beat this one...Man, God, discovery, etc...
Date: 22 Dec 1992 12:33:50 -0600
Organization: Meteorology, TAMU, CS, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

Robert Scott writes:
>      'It is Man's true business in this world to
>       discover his real Self and to ascertain his
>       relationship to the surrounding Cosmos.
>       His mind will then shine with the Secret glory
>       of human nature and his life will come
>       into harmony with the Cosmic order and beauty.'
>                            - Dr.Paul Brunton.
---
	'... for Solomon saith: "The glory of God is to conceal
	a thing, but the glory of the king is to find it out.";
	as if, according to the innocent play of children, the
	Divine Majesty took delight to hide his works, to the end
	to have them found out; as if kings could obtain no greater
	honour than to be God's play-fellows in that game.'
				- Francis Bacon (The Advancement of Learning)

-- 
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O&M 1008, TAMU, CS, TX 77843-3150....days:(409)845-1680 fax:(409)862-4466 
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From: awilson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andy Wilson)
Subject: Trial and error and learning
Summary: What I always think of when I royally screw up. :)
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Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 21:22:37 GMT

   "Some people get the point right away and therefore never learn anything."

                       --Clement Moorman, a middle-school science teacher

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From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Slick Willie
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:12:14 GMT

In article <1h7k8dINNrij@travis.csd.harris.com> kbeal@amber (Ken Beal) writes:
>
>I'd like to take exception to this, as well as Asimov's quote from his
>_Foundation_ series that:
>
>	"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
>
>While they >sound< great, they are both grammatically incorrect (or, I am
>reading the wrong thing into them, which could be the case but I doubt it).
>
>If X was the "last refuge" of Y, then wouldn't it make sense that Y would
>try >everything else< before trying X?  I.e. it is their "last resort," as
>it were?  This would be giving Y much more credit than Y deserves (i.e.
>the quotes are trying to show that Y is wrong/a fool/an idiot, and my
>grammatical interpretation of them shows that Y will exhaust all options
>before trying X).
>
>It would be much better worded "X is the first refuge of Y", would it not?
>
>Just a thought.
>--
Maybe the point is that a fool will try everything he can _think_ of, where
someone wiser might find a better way.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com



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From: kenneth@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kunal Saurov Bagchi)
Subject: Douglas Adams
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305 USA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:25:04 GMT

Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy :

"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."

Ken


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From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Shakespearean Quotations: Do you fancy a few?
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:54:15 GMT

rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu writes:
>
>The following Macbeth quote was in Tracy Kidder's Pulitzer-prize-winning "Soul
>of a New Machine":
>
>"We still have judgment here; that we but teach
> Bloody instructions, which, being taught, return
> To plague the inventor;..."
>
>Always seemed kind of ominously prophetic...
>

:-) :-)

Another one from Shakey baby:

  Oh, Judgment! Thous hast fled to brutish hearts,
  And men have lost their reason!

Satya
--
___________________________________________
Happiness, dear Phaedrus, is a passed pawn!
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From: mgm@world.std.com (michael g moncur)
Subject: Re: Twain on Jane Austen
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 05:06:14 GMT

ron@syacus.acus.oz.au (Ron Williams) writes:

>dave mankins (dm@think.com) wrote:
>> 
>> ``No library is complete that contains the works of Jane Austen.''
>> 		- Mark Twain

If you'll pardon the correction:

"Just the omission of Jane Austen's books alone would make a fairly
 good library out of a library that hadn't a book in it."
    - Mark Twain (1835-1910)
I may be wrong as well.
-- 
~`~`michael moncur - mgm@world.std.com / sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org ~`~`

Xref: sparky alt.quotations:233 alt.horror:5397
From: chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chua HakLien)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations,alt.horror
Subject: Clive Barker: From _The_Thief_Of_Always_
Followup-To: alt.horror
Date: 24 Dec 1992 02:30:58 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT!!!!


This is a description of a storm, from Barker's new book _The_Thief_Of_Always_.
( Harper Collins, 240 pages, $20 ).

"It had more than lightning at its dark heart. It had the light rains that
came at early morning to coax forth the seeds of another spring; it had the
drooping fogs of autumn, and the spiraling snows that had brought so many
midnight Christmases ... shafts of sunlight piereced the storm-clouds in the
name of Summer, only to be smothered by Fall's fog, while ... Spring coaxed
its legions out of bough and earth, then saw its buds murdered by Winter's
frosts before they could show their colors."

Was King ever as good? =)
(Admittedly, however, King's characters are still amongst the best in
horror fiction. Barker is improving, but he's not up to SK's level in
terms of characterisation just yet!!! )

Chua
+==+
PS: Followups to alt.horror
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From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Chuck Kincaid)
Subject: Re: if at first you [do|don't] succeed...
Organization: University of Fl, Department of Statistics
	<SVEN.92Dec23103536@betty.cs.widener.edu>
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:51:17

>>>>> On 23 Dec 1992 15:35:36 GMT, sven@cs.widener.edu (Sven M Heinicke) said:
 :>> In article <Bzp1wM.CG@magoo.uucp> jaw@magoo.uucp (Jeff Weisberg) writes:

 :>>    If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
 :>> 		   --Unk.

 :>> "If at first you do succeed---try to hide your astonishment."
 :>> 	 --Harry F. Banks

And then there is the inevitable,

	"If at first you don't succeed, so much for skydiving."
					--Unknown (me? :-)

charles d. kincaid
'Did you exchange a walk on part in the war, for a leading role in a
cage.'
	--Roger Waters
--
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'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Facts and art
Date: 2 Jan 1993 02:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


For a long time I had a .signature file with the quotation

"Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
        Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Well somebody told me he was sure that quote actually originated with
Oscar Wilde,  and somebody else suggested somebody else, so this is
one of those "Does anybody Really Know...?"  questions.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can talk all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"

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From: kencham@centi.cs.umn.edu (Deepak Kenchammana-Hosekote)
Subject: Re: My Chess .sig
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:33:30 GMT

This one comes from Worf in ST:TNG

"If the main aim of playing is not to win, then why keep scores"

\deepak
--
If there is heaven on earth, it is surely in Kenchammana-Hosekote !
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Sturgeon's Law?
Keywords: Sturgeon
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:23:56 GMT

batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, Space Phys. Data Facil. 301/286-2988) writes:
>I believe he wrote "Amok Time", the episode wherein Spock succumbs to the
>irresistible Vulcan mating urge.  (I may have the title wrong.)

"Mr. Spock succumbs to a powerful mating urge and nearly kills Captain Kirk."
   -- TV Guide
-- 
May the Great Camel of Paradise bestow upon you and yours a dropping.
From: swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Shakespearean Quotations: Do you fancy a few?
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:21:40 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In article <1992Dec21.192148.22349@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>I am a moderately big fan of Shakespeare. I propose we exchange
>a few of his choice quotations. I start with:
>
>   This above all, to thine own self be true!

"He is half the part of a blessed man,
Left to be finished by such as she.
And she, a fair divided excellence,
Whose fullness of perfection lies in him."
-- 
            _.
--Steve   ._||__    Welcome to the World's First GaAs Supercomputer
  Warren   v\ *|    -----------------------------------------------
             V
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From: edwards@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Edwards)
Subject: Re: Blues Quotes: John Coltrane
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:16:40 GMT

In article <1h980mINNatv@agate.berkeley.edu>, chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chua HakLien) writes:
> Damn the rules! It's the feeling that counts!
> 					- John Coltrane
> 
> Any other good jazz/blues quotes? Can't find them in Bartlett's or Oxfords..
> 
> Chua
> +==+
> 

Once I was at a gig with Big Jack Reynolds a old bluesman I know in Toledo
after he played a couple of young wanna-bees were gathered around his amp
and guitar checkin' out the hardware when Big Jack happened by and said in
passing, "It ain't the guitar boys ...."  ;-) one of my favorites.

edwards@andy.bgsu.edu

-- 

edwards@andy.bgsu.edu

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From: joann@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
Subject: Re: Shakespearean Quotations: Do you fancy a few?
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:21:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.220441.16939@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> rrulli@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Rebecca Rulli) writes:
>
>"Oh, the tangled webs we weave"
>
>Shakespeare
>(not sure from which although although I constantly quote it)

Nope, it's Sir Walter Scott. My Bartlett's (14th) makes it unclear
whether it's from "Lochinvar" or "Marmion."

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practice to deceive!"

Misattributed quotes could be a thread all its own. It is interesting
who gets credited with what sayings. For instance, Scott also wrote

"Breathes there the man, with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
This is my own, my native land!"

in "Lay of the Last Minstrel;" because Scott is not in particular
favor (you can tell by whether you were ever forced to read him in
high school), most people would not guess or remember this.

*) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *) *)!(* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (* (*
Jo Ann Malina, Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu  -or-  415/926-2846
Neither Stanford nor the DOE would be caught dead with these opinions.
Nor do they consult me when formulating theirs.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Heap on more wood! -- the wind is chill;/But let it whistle as it will,
We'll keep our Christmas merry still.
										Sir Walter Scott, Marmion
From: stanworthdjh@vax1.bham.ac.uk (Dave <Rubicon>)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Marriage - I think not
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:19:24 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham
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     "Here lies my wife: here let her lie'
         Now she's at rest, and so am I."

                                      John Dryden [1631-1700]
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Subject: Re: Quote 'o the day
From: pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:50:12 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <C0198C.Hqw@boi.hp.com> kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen) writes:

>> "Is it better to have loved and lost, or never to have loved at all?"
>>	-- (Not me, but I can't place the author)
>> 

> " It is better to have loved and lost. Much better."
>        -- (Not me either)

"It is better to have loved and lost than to have paid for it and not liked it"
      -- (Not me either)
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From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: springsteen quotes
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:52:06 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation


Some are from memory and so might be wrong. In no particular
order...


For the ones who got a notion, a notion deep inside
That it ain't no sin to be glad you're alive
I want to find one face that ain't looking through me
I want to find my place I want to spit in the face of these 
Badlands....

	- "Badlands"  from Darkness On The Edge of Town



Bobby said he'd pull out Bobby stayed in
Janey had the baby, wasn't any sin
They were set to marry on a summer day
Bobby got scared and he ran away
...
Mist was on the water low run the tide
Janey held her son down at the riverside
Waist deep in the water how bright the sun shown
She nestled him in her arms and carried him home
As he lay sleeping in her bed Janey took a look around at everything
Went to a drawer in the bureau and got out her old engagement ring
Took out her wedding dress tied that ring up in its sash
Went down to the pawnshop man and walked out with some good cold cash

	-"Spare Parts", from Tunnel of Love


Now some guys they just give up livin', 
And start dyin' little by little, piece by piece. 
Some guys come home from work and wash up,
And go racin' in the street.

	-"Racing In The Street" from Darkness On The Edge Of Town


She stares off alone into the night
With the eyes of one who hates for just being born.  

	-"Racing In The Street" from Darkness On The Edge Of Town


Well girl that feeling of safety you prize
Well it comes with a hard, hard price
You can't shut off the risk and the pain
Without losing the love that remains
We're all riding on this train

	-"Human Touch" (title cut)


So you've been broke, and then you've been hurt
Show me somebody who ain't.

	-"Human Touch" (title cut)


Your road is dark and it's a thin thin line
But I want you to know I'll walk it for you anytime
Maybe your other boyfriends couldn't pass the test
But if you're rough and ready for love
Baby I'm tougher than the rest

	-"Tougher Than The Rest" from Tunnel of Love


Well now on a summer night, in a dusky room
Come a little piece of the Lord's undying light
Crying like he swallowed the fiery moon
In his mother's arms....
In a world so hard and dirty, so fouled and confused 
Searching for a little bit of God's mercy 
I found living proof.

	-"Living Proof" from Lucky Town


Remember all the movies Terry that we'd go see
Tryin' to learn how to walk like the heroes 
We thought we had to be and after all this time
We find we're just like all the rest
	-"Backstreets" from Born To Run


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From: tage@cs.utwente.nl (Tage Stabell-kuloe)
Subject: Re: Money (was: Abstractions)
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:41:20 GMT

>"What money does is give you the opportunity not to worry about money."

    Penger beskytter meg ikke mot ulykker,
    men jeg grter heller i en Jaguar enn i en buss.

which is

    Money do not protect me from grief,
    but I rather cry in a Jaguar than in a bus.

(Please excuse any error introduced in the translation process)

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From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Subject: Re: War and Politics (Was Re: Slick Willie)
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
	<riouxp.725093921@iros1>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:38:42 GMT


>>>>> "Pierre" == Pierre Rioux (riouxp@IRO.UMontreal.CA)

Pierre> How do you govern a country which has 246 different kinds of cheese?
Pierre>     -- Charles De Gaulle

  Politics is no exact science.
        -- Otto von Bismark

  Politics is for the moment.  An equation is for eternity. 
        -- Albert Einstein 


/Lars
--
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CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
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From: nwbernst@unix.amherst.edu (Neil Bernstein)
Subject: Re: Shakespeare--available by ftp!
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:09:32 GMT

Jonathan M Lennox (jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
:   For all those who have Shakespeare quotes which they're unsure
: about, I recommend ftp'ing to ftp.uu.net and looking in the directory
: /doc/literary/shakespeare.  It's all there.
: 

	Had lots of fun doing just that.  What I'd like to know is if

	a) there are more of these sites with different material, and
	b) if so, if anyone has seen any Homer or Chaucer there.

					Thanks!

							Neil Bernstein
						Struggling Classics Majo
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From: good@pixar.com (Dancing to me is like standing still, only faster.)
Subject: Re: a paradox
Organization: Pixar - Pt. Richmond, CA USA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:16:43 GMT

In article <7249712773575@spatial.eid.anl.gov> shugrue@spatial.eid.anl.gov (Leon Shugrue) writes:
:
:"History will teach us nothing"
:                        - Sting
:
Pretty much explains his politics, wouldn't you say?

		--Craig
-- 
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From: christen@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Carl Christensen)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Dorothy Parker
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:08:28 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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One of my favorite DP quotes was given as a challenge to use the word
'horticulture' in a sentence: 

  "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think."

Also, I like this reply to her editor who was bugging her for
her belated work while she was on her honeymoon:

   "Too fucking busy, and vice versa."

These and twenty others (anecdotes really) can be found in 'The Little,
Brown Book of Anecdotes', Clifton Fadiman editor.

Anybody have some other good quotes from Ms. Parker?

Carl Christensen
From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: you can quote me...
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:01:47 GMT
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences

In article <1992Dec21.151056.1103@hubcap.clemson.edu> hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor) writes:
>  ``I before E, except after C. Is that a sufficiently weird rule for you?''
>
>                                              -Me

r
Or......

I before E except after C, unless it's weird, foreign, or deficient.