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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:25:38 GMT
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From:         "Ms. L. Asturias" <lucia@UXB.LIV.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: File conversion from Word5.5
              from "Janneke Abbema" at Nov 11, 92 1:13 pm

According to Janneke Abbema:
>
> ==> From: "Ms. L. Asturias"
>
> > Dag Janneke,
> > Een signoffbriefje van deze lijst ben ik kwijt,
> >
> > Hoe kan ik me afmelden van deze lijst ?
> >
> > Met vriendelijke groet,
> >
> > Jan Stevens                             Bestuursgebouw
> > Dienst Informatievoorziening            Hogeschool Nijmegen
> > en Automatisering                       Postbus 9029
> > Tel: 080 - 27 13 54                     6500 JK Nijmegen
> > E-mail  : U828128@HNYKUN11.URC.KUN.NL   Fax: 080 - 60 03 57
> >
>
> Jan,
>
> Je moet je afmeleden waar je je aangemeld hebt. In jou geval was dat
> LISTSERV@NIC.SURFNET.NL  als ik me dat goed weet te herinneren
>
>
> Groeten,
>
> Janneke
>
> > ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> >
> > According to WPCORP-L@EARN.HEARN:
> > > ======================================================
> > > I have two files in Microsoft Word 5.5 (DOS) format that I desperately
 need
>   to
> > > convert into WP5.1 (DOS) format.  The convert.com program with WP5.1
 conver
> __
>
>
> Janneke Abbema                                       SURF/net
> User Support                                          -- --
> SURFnet bv                                             /
>
Dear Janneke,

Excuse me, but I think there is a mistake in the reference
'From: Lucia Asturias'at the beginning of your message.
Well, I did not write any of the above text, neither do I speak or
write the other language.  It doesn't upset me.  But I would like to
know what is happening and why, and if I can help you or help somebody else.
Could you please let me know?
Please write preferably in English.  If that is not possible, then
French, Spanish or Portuguese will be fine. Ok?

Thank you.

--
Lucia Asturias (lucia@uxb.liv.ac.uk)
Computing Services Dept. - The University of Liverpool - England, UK
Ph:  (051)794-3749
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:55:50 EST
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From:         Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Materials for Visually Impaired

In the latest copy of T.H.E. Journal, a software-based OCR system,
OsCaR 3.0 allows visually impaired students to read print materials
without assistance.

The article reads as follows:

...The complete system includes an HP ScanJet II scanner, user-interface
software and OmniPage OCR for Windows by Caere Corp.  It is designed to
be used with the developer's large-print, speech, electronic braille
and hardcopy braille access devices.

OsCaR 3.0 recognizes foreign languages, graphics, headlines, bold, italics
and underline typefaces.  Easy to use, it can convert black and white maps,
drawings, or large text into a corresponding tactile image with help from
braille embossers...

Call TeleSensory, Mountain View, CA (800) 277-8418

Laura
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From:         The Head PC Geek <rj@QUEENS.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Inverse printing with WP51/Laserjet ?

>From:	MX%"WPCORP-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu"  3-NOV-1992 00:19:44.25
>Subj:	Inverse printing with WP51/Laserjet ?

On Mon, 2 Nov 1992 16:52:08 GMT, mservmrw@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK wrote:

>Hello,
>
>        I'm trying to print out white text on a black background using WP51
>with an HP LaserJet III.  The only way I can do it is by putting the text
>into a user box and setting the colour to white and shading the box.  This
>works but plays havoc with automatic paragraph numbering and the like.
>
>Anybody got any other ideas?
>
>TIA, Mark
>
>===============================================================================
>Mark Walters                               | E-mail: mservmrw@vax.oxford.ac.uk=

I have not tried it but you may want to work with using an empty 100% grey box
and set the text wrap around to NO. That way (in theory) you should be able to
place white text on the page and have the box go beneath it. I would also
recommend doing the paragraph or text first to get the correct dimensions and
make the graphics box a paragraph box so it will move with the text.

Let me know if it works.

RJ
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:42:00 GMT
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From:         WALTONP@CSOVAX.PORTSMOUTH.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Inverse printing with WP51/Laserjet ?

Use tables it's a lot easier. Create a single cell table, set the shading
to 100%, then set the colour of your text ([Ctrl]+[F8], 5) to white. The text in
 the
shaded "box" can then be edited from the normal editing screen.

Paul Walton
University of Portsmouth.
From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
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Subject: Re:      Re: WangWriter ---> WordPerfect? How?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:47:43 GMT
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Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
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If you can find a PC that runs Wang's {somewhat} newer 
PC-based word processor, IWP......
I can't recall for sure, but IWP may be able to inhale
WangWriter files and spew out IWP ones. 

THEN you can use Software Bridge or similar to turn IWP into a
real system's format.

It is possible that another translator such as Word-for-Word can
handle it directly. There are several products from MHS Group,
I think it's called, that took things to/from Wang to the
civilized world. 

good luck....
--
A host is a host from coast to coast..wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu
& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:09:37 EST
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From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Control yourself

I've got no problem just mailing the table of contents in future.
I thought it useful to send one issue so people could get
an idea of the flavor of the content.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Subject: Re: Replacing with a subscript
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:39:23 GMT

In article <WPCORP-L%92110512161126@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> MULLISH@NYUACF.BITNET writes:
>There have several replies to the recent question submitted by
>jmarold@slic.cts.com (wherever that may be). He evidently had the need to
>include a subscript in the Replace string of the Alt-F2 command. The fact of
>the matter is that WP will not do it if tried in the normal way. All the
>suggested methods were theoretically correct but do not work.

I don't know what your problem is, but it certainly worked for me.
Just make sure that both the [SUBSCRIPT] start and [subscript] end
codes are included in the replace string. BTW I am using the August 92
UK (based on 9 March US) version. Perhaps yours is earlier than this?



-- 
Jim Baltaxe - jim.baltaxe@vuw.ac.nz
Computing Services Centre - Victoria University of Wellington - New Zealand
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Time is such a valuable commodity because they're not making it any more.
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From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Materials for Visually Impaired

Make sure the scanner uses a window to read text rather
than rollers.  The roller equipped scanners are real dogs and
extremely expensive to maintain.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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From:         Michel Bourdages <BOU8C@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Control yourself
              4 Nov 1992 16:09:37 EST from <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:09:37 EST A. Kaniss said:
>I've got no problem just mailing the table of contents in future.
>I thought it useful to send one issue so people could get
>an idea of the flavor of the content.
>
>jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>

The way I see it, after reading all the mails on the subject
"Control yourself", those interrested party about Info-IBMPC
Discussion List should subscribe to that list or the people
concerned should sent E-mail between them and leave this list
free only for the purpose it is suppose to fill.

Again this is just my opinion, thanks.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
                            Michel Bourdages
       Analyste du systme des problmes / Problem System Analyst
     Administration des donnes  /  Information Resources Management
           Universit d'Ottawa   /  University of Ottawa
                 (613) 564-5099  /  Fax: (613) 564-8197
                        BOU8C@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA
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From:         Dan Wallach <dwallach@ZONKER.CS.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject:      test posting
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I've been having troubles with c+health.  This is a test.
Typing Injuries FAQ to follow, hopefully.

Dan
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 21:28:01 -0500
From:         ABRAHAM@TUSK.BITNET
Subject:      help on network

        DEAR FRIENDS, WE HAVE JUST INSTALLED AN SNA GATEWAY BOX MADE
        BY DIGITAL IN OUR UNIVERSITY. MY QUESTION IS IN MY IBM4381
        MAINFRAME I HAVE 3174 CONTROLLER, 7171 CONTROLLER, TAPE DRIVE
        AND SNA-GATEWAY BOX. TWO CONTROLLERS ARE FULLY USED(24 ASCII
        PORTS, AND 32 COAX PORTS, 64 PORTS ON 7171) KEEPING ALL THESE
        FACTS IN MIND, WHAT OTHER THINGS I SHOULD TAKE CARE INNORDER
        GET A GOOD NETWORK PERFORMANCE?. I HAVE SOMETIMES DELAY FROM
        SYSTEMS ALMOST 15, 25 SECONDS. SOMETIMES THE SYSTEM PERFORM
        VERY SLOW EVEN IF THERE IS VERY LESS CPU% USAGE? HELP ME
        IF I HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ON THE VTAM, OR IN ANY OTHER CONFIGURATION
        TABLES. WHAT ARE THE SIDE EFFECTS THE SNA-GATEWAY CAN CAUSE
        TO THE NETWORK PERFORMANCE IF I AM USING GATEWAY TO ABOUT
        80%? WILL IT REDUCE THE PERFORMANCE OF OTHER DEVICES ON THE
        CHANNEL SUCH AS CONTROLLERS(3174 OR 7171).
        ANYTHING TO HELP THIS QUESTION WILL BE APPRECIATED.
        THANK YOU.

        ABRAHAM george
        Tuskegee university(abraham@tusk.edu)
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From:         Bill Stilwell <CPD247@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: An Invitation to participate in an Electronic Salon:
              Re-Articulating Education & the New Information Technologies
              12 Nov 1992 18:58:11 +1100 from <Chris.Bigum@DEAKIN.OZ.AU>

One or more groups within AERA should adopt the electronic salon paradigm
for their portion of the conference.  Moments ago I read that we might
be able to pack 15 soules into a van and drive to Atlanta.  Given my
appreciation for my colleagues and my awareness of my order, I believe
that an electronic dialogue at my leisure is more cognitively pleasing
than eight hours packed into a van.  Aint this fun?

William Stilwell, Department of Educational and Counseling Psychology,
College of Education, UK, 40506-0017, 606-257-3395 (O).
"Play the game, fairly"         "Control.  Push the ball"
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:02:00 EDT
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Savage Inequalities

Kozol is giving a talk at our campus this Friday entitled
"Savage Inequalities."  I'll let you know how it goes.  And
if anyone in the area wants to drop by, feel free!
--Kathy Morgan
kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet


Talk is at 4:00pm, Science Center Auditorium, Wheaton
College, Norton, Massachusetts.  (508) 285-7722.  From Boston
take route 95 south to route 495, 495 south to the Cape,
route 140 to Norton.  From Providence and south take route 95
north to rt. 495, then 140 to Norton.

See ya there!
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Election News
              Christoff" at Nov 4, 92 3:21 pm

There were two issues on the ballot regarding education in
Virginia. One was a bond issue, which passed, opening borrowed
money to pay for capital improvements and expenses in higher
education. It passed. The second was on the ballot only in
counties where petitions had put it there. It gave voters a
choice in whether the appointed school board system would be
continued, or whether the particular county would change to an
elected school board. In areas where there was enough support
to put the issue on the ballot, it passed resoundingly. It was
so in the county where I live, but not even on the ballot in
the county where I work. Can't give you hard numbers since I
left the paper at school.

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From:         Don Hayes <NVHAYED@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Election and who will be Clinton's Sec. of Ed.?

*** Reply to note of 11/06/92 12:54
Gene, if Berl where selected and the focus was actually on teaching and teacher
s would that not confuse congress and the administration?  I mean to actually t
ake education away from the political experts and actual have a rational indivi
dual would be so revolutionary I don't think the pols would know how to react.

Don Hayes, NVCC Loudoun Campus         Bitnet nvhayed @vccscent
1000 Harry Flood Byrd Highway, Sterling, Va. 20164
Telephone 703-450-2547                 FAx 703 450-2536
Ne pereat perdocere         laudatur ab his, culpatur ab illis
From: Chris.Bigum@DEAKIN.OZ.AU
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              5 Nov 1992 15:39:44 -0600

Re: List use

That is good advice Steve. I would only add that if Jay has anyone in his Dept
or institution that uses a list or knows about it then why not grab a few
moments of their time and walk through it with them. The whole IT enterprise
is based upon human networks or all sorts - it is a matter of becoming part of
them. It's a little trickier if you have no one local but I'm sure there are
folk like Steve on this list that can offer support and advice.  Most/all?
list members are pretty well self taught or got into this with a little help
from a 'friendly computer person'.

Cheers,

Chris Bigum
Deakin University
Geelong
Victoria 3217
Australia
From: LMB2379@TAMZEUS.BITNET (LYNN M. BURLBAW @ TAMU 845-6195)
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Subject: Clinton's sec of ed
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:46:00 GMT
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WSJ, November 5, 1992 page A13

Possible candidates for Education Cabinet are
Donna Shalala, chancelor U of Wisconsin
Tom Kean, president Drew University and former Gov of NJ
Richard Riley, former gov of SC

I don't know if WSJ knows anymore but the list is attributed to prominent
democrats - also the following statement is included "Moreover, there
almost surely will be a few surprises when the Clinton cabinet is formed."

Lynn Burlbaw
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From:         HEWITJS@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Subject:      Kozol

Gene,
        Fancy you should inquire about Jonathon Kozol.  He spoke last night here
    at SUNY Plattsburgh to a standing room only audience of students, faculty an
   d
area concerned citizens.  His message is bleak.  He insists that school
conditions are worse today than in the mid seventies.  His stories of South
Bronx, East St. Louis, and Camden NJ are chilling.  His view is not as pessim-
istic as many think.  He is hopeful with Clinton and new Senators.  Speaks to
trashing the school funding based on property taxes, mobilizing local urban
families to fight in court for quality education, and even funding every child
in the nation with the same amount of $, except with adjustments in cost of
living differences regionally, and children who are fundamentally challenged.
He also made it clear that we have to stop with all the stupid goal setting and
get on with achieving a few.
Scott Hewit
SUNY Plattsburgh
From: gallagherj@SATURN.GLASSBORO.EDU
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Subject: Kozol
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:24:38 GMT
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I find the discussion over Kozol's theories interesting and
informative. While I have not had the time to read his book, and
probably should, (I did read his article in EDUCATIONAL
LEADERSHIP, November issue last night.) I wonder whether the
problems he addresses are not viewed from the micro rather than
from the macro. The suggested solutions from Gene Glass' forced
"integration" of the haves with the have-nots to a balanced
budget for all to the vouchers/choice option do not seem to
address the larger problem. From my limited perspective of being
brought up in New York City to living now near Camden, New Jersey
and Philadelphia, educators who teach in these urban areas tell
me of children not ready to learn, not that they do not have the
intelligence or ability to learn. The problem seems to be one of
community disfunction, family disfunction, and a harried school
system, underfunded and understaffed to provide the educational
and social services to compensate for these out-of-school
dysfunctions. A Camden administrator recently told our Phi Delta
Kappa chapter that the children in Camden find the schools as an
oasis of safety and security. They provide programs to keep the
children in school after formal hours until five in the evening
when parents can pick them up. Camden has few public libraries in
the city. They only have two school busses for the whole city.
The streets are dangerous because of the drugs, violence,
poverty, unemployment, and other societal problems found in urban
areas.

From this, I would like to hear from those on this list who are
better informed than I am as to how we can address the societal
problems and whether solving those problems would help solve some
of the problems in the schools. It seems to me that the issues
involve much larger questions than vouchers and balanced dollars
spent on each child.

John V. Gallagher, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
School of Education and Related Professional Studies
Rowan College of New Jersey
Glassboro, NJ 08028
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From:         Kevin@LEMOORE.ATI.COM
Subject:      Sexual Harassment

A local district curriculum director has been asked to give a presentation
on sexual harassment. They were wondering if others out there have
given such a presentation or know of relevant information that can
be used in the development of this presentation. If you could be of
help here I would greatly appreciate it.

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Kevin Kurtz
Assistant Principal
Lemoore Elementary School
100 Vine St.
Lemoore, CA 93245
(209) 924 - 3479	(school voice phone)
(209) 924 - 1224  (home voice phone)
(209) 924 - 2274  (home fax phone -- on when requested)
Kevin@lemoore.ati.com
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