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From: Rollo.Ross@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.help
Subject: Re: 3 VAX machines not working in library.
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:32:01 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <18592.2aab639a@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
writes:
>>> 	Experience shows that at least half the problems reported by 
>>> first-years are not equipment failures, but are simple operational problems
> Gee we first years must be dumb!  Duh.....is this machine plugged in?
	What can I say? I can only repeat "experience shows that...". The way 
people deal with problem reports is coloured by their assessment of the 
accuracy of the report. When someone describes a terminal as a "VAX machine",
we can guess he's not a very experienced user. We're told (eventually) that the
screen is blank. Blank screen - no cursor - no power? I leave it to the
audience to suggest the first thing to check. (And the expert's tip is to 
check whether the caps light comes on when you press shift-lock - that cuts 
out any trickery with dead monitors, brightness turned down, and so on.)

>>> |	I suggest posting to News if the answer is likely to be helpful
>>> |to others, 
> Well, I would have thought that getting 3 terminals fixed was going to
> be "helpful" to many students. 
	Indeed. Thank you for reporting the problem(s). I was merely suggesting
a way to report hardware faults so as to get them fixed as soon as possible -
give a proper report to someone whose job it is to get it fixed. The answer is 
hardly likely to be helpful to News readers - "changed the video deflector 
board"?? 

	In case you think I'm just being unhelpful, I relayed your complaint 
to CCOPR as soon as I read your first message, last week. I then tried to get 
enough information to turn it into a useful problem report - which terminal, 
what fault. If nothing has been done, it may be because of the vague nature of
the problem report. Or perhaps they're all out checking their cars, to see if
they've turned into new Magnas! (Hah!)

							Rollo
#! rnews 2347
From: 8914357b@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD KICK DT!
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:55:41 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1992Sep1.035426.224@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip) writes:
> HERE ARE SOME VALID REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD BEAT THE USA TEAM THAT
> COMPETED IN BARCELONA, COMMONLY KNOW AS THE DREAM TEAM (PROBABLY BECAUSE
> THEY'RE ALL HALF ASLEEP?)
> 
> 1. AUSTRALIA BEAT PUERTO RICO BY 40 POINTS, THE USA COULD ONLY MANAGE A
> MEAGRE 38 POINTS..... AND AUSTRALIA DIDN'T PLAY ITS STAR PLAYERS MUCH IN
> THE SECOND HALF...
> 
> 2. THE NBA DOES NOT ALLOW A ZONE DEFENCE.... ONLY MAN TO MAN... HENCE WE
> COULD EXPLOIT THIS INABLILITY ON THE PART OF THE USA..... AND AUSTRALIA
> HAS BEEN PROVEN AS A VERY EFFICENT DEFENCIVE TEAM...
> 
> 3. EGO: THE USA THINK THEY ARE ALMIGHTY , ARE THEY REALLY? THEY ARE JUST
> 12 MEN OF WHICH FIVE PLAY ON A BASKETBALL COURT AT ANY ONE TIME, AS DOES
> AUSTRALIA, BEING TO LAX AND THINKING THEY ARE GREAT COULD SPELL THEIR
> LOSS.
> 
> 4. TEAM? IS THE USA A TEAM? I DONT THINK SO, IT IS JUST A GROUP OF NBA
> ALL STARS WITH GREAT INDIVIDUAL TALENT, BUT NOT MUCH TEAM TALENT, JUST
> TELL ME HOW LONG HAS THAT TEAM BEEN PLAYING TOGETHER FOR, AND FOR HOW
> MANY GAMES....
> 
> AUSTRALIA ON THE OTHER HAND IS A TEAM, WHICH MANG

Being an Australian, I feel it is my patriotic duty to explain what has 
happened here.....

Australia never got to play the Dream Team, and we managed to be a team by a
bigger margin than the DT.  Hence, Australian logic, twisted by the fact that
we managed to beat New Zealand in the Olympics, has led someone to grant Bryan
an early release from whichever institution he was in.


It must be said that Australian basketball is improving, but I think we
(Australians) are kidding ourselves if we think we have a hope of beating a 
team with as much talent as USA.

If our team had that much talent, people in the USA would be watching the 
NBL, instead of people in Australia watching the NBA....

I hope this has cleared the air, and people will not hold it against those
Australians who still maintain an air of sanity.


Munster....

#! rnews 2127
From: etad@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: common Polish-German action (was: Nazi Cam
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:55:10 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1992Sep2.174854.3371@Princeton.EDU>, roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
> In article <18466.2a9df70b@levels.unisa.edu.au> etad@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>>In article <1992Aug25.234246.7745@dgbt.doc.ca>, ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes: 
> 
>>> Prejudice against the Jews in Europe is well documented and nowhere
>>                                                              ~~~~~~~~~~
>>> was this worse than in Poland.  The nazis capitalized on the situation
>>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> but I think responsibility for the death camps has to shared by the
>>> whole of Europe and especially by those areas where prejudice was most
>>> widespread.>
> 
>>Are you off your mind or what? Are you trying to say that Polish antisemites
>>made Nazis exterminate Jews? I agree that the history of that time is
>>reasonably well documented. Why don't you read something, then, before writing
>>crap on the net?
> 
> Why not read a little yourself?  Poland's many anti-Semites certainly didn't
> oppose the German murder of their fellow citizens, and indeed quite a few
> actually assisted in the effort.  Resistance to the Holocaust existed in
> many countries; there was very little of that sort of thing in Poland.
> 
> Roger
>>Regards
>>--Arek Dadej

Dear Roger,
No doubt, you have an active interest in the topic. One can also see that you
read. But is reading equal to a decent, unbiased study of the topic? Where do
your sources come from? To me, they smell with Rabbi Waiss and the likes.
Or, maybe you were born in Poland before the II WW and lived through all this
yourself?
Reagards
--Arek Dadej
#! rnews 459
From: 9064507x@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.help
Subject: HELP : prompt on the VAX.
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:33:03 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia


Hi,

Could anyone tell me how to show my current working directory in the prompt
on the VAX ? ( ie what command should I place in my set prompt to extract
my current working directory. )

Thanks alot.

Frank.
#! rnews 1519
From: madrg@levels.unisa.edu.au (David Gardiner)
Newsgroups: unisa.help
Subject: Re: HELP : prompt on the VAX.
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:53:38 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <18600.2aac8f6f@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9064507x@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Could anyone tell me how to show my current working directory in the prompt
> on the VAX ? ( ie what command should I place in my set prompt to extract
> my current working directory. )
unlike some unix shells, you can't do this automatically.. It needs a bit of
help to get the right prompt up.. Basically you have to define your own
change directory command that updates the prompt when a new directory is
made the default.
Here is an extract from my login.com, put it in a file like CD.COM

$ IF P1 .EQS. "" THEN INQUIRE P1 "_Directory"
$ IF P1 .EQS. "" THEN EXIT
$ SET DEFAULT 'P1
$ SET PROMPT = "''f$getsyi("nodename")'::''F$DIRECTORY()'-> "

Then, to change directory, use @CD [.FRED]  - and your prompt should change.
For convenience, put a definition in your LOGIN.COM like so..

$ CA :== @CA.COM

> Thanks alot.
any time.
-dave
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#! rnews 929
From: madrg@levels.unisa.edu.au (David Gardiner)
Newsgroups: unisa.help
Subject: Re: R: 3 VAX machines not working in library.
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:57:34 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <18592.2aab639a@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:

> Gee we first years must be dumb!  [Boring bits deleted]

I think that says it all :-)
-dave
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#! rnews 580
From: marwk@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.cis.prog.f.02462
Subject: PRACTICAL 6: Due date
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:58:43 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

PRACTICAL 6 is due in WEEK 9.

--
Raymond Kennington
LECTURER
University of South Australia   | Act in haste and repent at leisure
P.O. Box 1                      | Code too soon and debug forever
Ingle Farm                      | Knobs, knobs everywhere,
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#! rnews 1051
From: marwk@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.cis.prog.f.02462
Subject: PRACTICAL 5: Due date & some assistance
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:05:32 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

PRACTICAL 5: Due in week 8

The calculation of the area using Simpson's rule should use the
following loop:


      SUM = F(A) + F(B)

      DO I = NINT(A/H) + 1, NINT(B/H) - 1
          X = REAL(I) * H

          calculate the value to be added using the statement function F()
          and multiply by 2 or 4 depending on whether I is even or odd
          using MOD(I,2) .EQ. 0

      END DO

      multiply by the interval width and divide by 3.


This is more than just help!

--
Raymond Kennington
LECTURER
University of South Australia   | Act in haste and repent at leisure
P.O. Box 1                      | Code too soon and debug forever
Ingle Farm                      | Knobs, knobs everywhere,
South Australia                 |              just vary a knob to think!
#! rnews 958
From: 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.help
Subject: Re: R: 3 VAX machines not working in library.
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:45:03 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

>In article <18602.2aac952e@levels.unisa.edu.au>, madrg@levels.unisa.edu.au (David Gardiner) writes:

>> In article <18592.2aab639a@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>> 
>>> Gee we first years must be dumb!  [Boring bits deleted]
>> 
>> I think that says it all :-)
>> -dave

Gee, guess who was a first year too Dave! Or did you just skip it and go
straight to second?! Good to see a "help-desker" knows it all!

:-)

--
Daniel.

#! rnews 453
From: makjr@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.cis.dslss
Subject: Collecting tutes
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:29:23 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia


I have completed 90+% of my tute marking. If you want your tutes back you
can collect them from me in my office, or wait till I sort them out and
put them in pigeonholes. This will take some time tho'

Kevin Radus
#! rnews 1993
From: etad@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Antisemitism in Poland.
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:30:23 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <a6cb6076@random.se>, ianf@random.se (Ian Feldman) writes:
> 
>   mario smarduch, <marios@ecs.comm.mot.com> writes>
 
> # Jacek,
> 
> # I just came back from Poland ( I was there for 3 weeks), there is
> # no antisemitism whatsovever in Poland, with the exception of few
> # jokes here and there.  As a matter of fact some of the key people
> # in the Polish governemnt are of Jewish descent, how's that for
> # antisemitism.
> 
>   Interestingly enough this attempt at a wholesale whitewash of
>   tradition, occurence and frequency of such a complex and ever-
>   present facet of life in Poland as is the antisemitism is the best
>   illustration Jacek Broda could ever have hoped for. Well done,
>   mario (with a lowercase "m").
> 
> --Ian Feldman

Good one, Ian !!! One should kneel down, bang his chest and repeat again and
again: "All Poles are guilty of anti-semitism. I am an ugly anti-semite. All
Poles ....". Otherwise, he will be even more guilty of anti-semitism. 

Mario's views are maybe simplistic, but if you consider that an average Pole is
not as obsessed with the Polish-Jewish issue as you are, and that the Polish
society, en mass, is not as strongly anti-semitic as you would like to believe, 
well justified by what he has seen in Poland. 

And, what do you present in response? Well... bravo, Ian! Excellent line of
argumentation! Don't be surprised if somebody uses the same trick to present a
proof that you are ... (well, insert here something dirty, ugly, insulting,
unbelievable, whatever). If you don't agree, if you deny it, the more you are
... (insert something, again).

-- Arek Dadej

#! rnews 1803
From: 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp
Subject: Re: RM: How about this spell?
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:31:48 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

In article <1992Sep7.174736.13766@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, mmoss@csws11.ic.sunysb.edu (Matthew D Moss) writes:
> 
> Ok, I was helping someone generate a Chaotic Lord character
> yesterday, and we went and got him his first Chaotic armor.

bad mistake, letting a PC get his hands on a chaos lord.
very bad mistake.  The PC gets annoyed at a city, creates
some chaos, and goodbye city, hello magma lake.


> 
> After glancing at the spell again, I realized: nowhere does
> it say that this spell only works on the caster. In fact, the
> range is 10 feet.
> 
> This being a first level spell (at least for type I demons) 
> seems pretty deadly to lower level adversaries. Of course, the
> Chaotic Lord and anyone else nearby then has to deal with the
> demon, but OUCH to the person who is a target of this spell.
> 

Why would it be deadly, chaotic armour provides more advantages
than disadvantages?  The willpower of type I demons is 
minor and it is more than likely the recipient could
control the demon indefinitely.  Meanwhile your opponent
may be able to fly and be immune to stun, wrapped up with
a +20 strength bonus.  

ouch definitely, but if the recipient survives, he could be a foe
to reckon with.

> Any comments?
>             

no, none :-)
> -- 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Matthew David Moss				mmoss@ic.sunysb.edu
> 	"Chaos is fun. Order is for those       mmoss@ccmail.sunysb.edu
>          don't know where there things are."
#! rnews 2285
From: mamjpc@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.cis.dslss
Subject: HERE THEY ARE!!! pps design marks
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:43:15 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

			PPS DESIGN MARKS
                        ================


If you have any problems, see me ASAP.
you can pick up your stuff from my office.(MC3-10)

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#! rnews 1522
From: 8917277u@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: unisa.help
Subject: the 3 vax machines not working in library
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:45:21 +0930
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: guest@sili (Rockin' Robyn)
Subject: bulls draft info?
Summary: Anyone have info on bulls draft picks this year?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:10:16 GMT
Keywords: bulls, draft

Can someone send me detailed info on the Bulls draft picks this
year?  Houston I know a bit about but who is the #2 pick they
signed to a multi-year contract and will anyone else from the draft   
stick?  Thanks in advance!

                                  Robert Allen Hercey
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans..."
:q
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel)
Subject: Re: Best players by position
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:07:53 GMT

In <1992Sep08.011736.56662@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:

>In article <92251.145833IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>>    Here are my opinions on the five best players at each positions.
>>
>My opinions of your opinions :-)

>>PG  1-John Stockton               SG  1-Michael Jordan
>>    2-Tim Hardaway                    2-Clyde Drexler
>>    3-Kevin Johnson                   3-Mitch Richmond
>>    4-Derek Harper                    4-Jeff Hornacek
>>    5-Mark Price                      5-Reggie Lewis

>Price should be at least #4, maybe #3.  
>Reggie Lewis I would put at 3, Richmond at 5.

That's a better arrangement.

>>
>>                     C  1-David Robinson
>>                        2-Patrick Ewing
>>                        3-Hakeem Olajuwon
>>                        4-Shaquile O'Neille
>>                        5-Brad Daugherty

>Shaq hasn't played an NBA game yet, and until such time, I can't see
>any justification for inclusion on the list.  If you go by hype alone, then
>Kenny Anderson should be in your top 5 as well.

Very well said!

>>
>> SF  1-Charles Barkley             PF  1-Karl Malone
>>     2-Scottie Pippen                  2-Dennis Rodman
>>     3-Chris Mullin                    3-Derrick Coleman
>>     4-Dominique Wilkins               4-Larry Johnson
>>     5-James Worthy                    5-Kevin Willis

What about Glenn Rice? Isn't he a small forward? I know that Worthy is a darn
good player, but Rice is comming on fast.

>Kevin Willis has only really had 1 good year, #5 is probably too high.
>What about someone like Horace Grant or Buck, or better yet, Kevin McHale??

I'd go with McHale out of these three. But then again, I have to put in a plug
for Shawn Kemp: This guy is big and getting bigger!

Of course, nothing applies, since we'd have to come up with the proper
definitions for each position and decide which attributes are applied to
each. Having such outlines would then enable us to rate players based on
their statistics, and perhaps throw in a few suggested intrinsics.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman)
Subject: Hornets tickets?
Originator: stuart@mingus
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:38:00 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA


Anyone down in Hornets country know how an out-of-towner might be able to
get some tickets to a Hornets game in Charlotte? Does the team have its own
telephone ticket order number, or are there regional/national ticket agencies
that handle their home games? I tried a Hornets "office" number printed in
one of last season's NBA annuals, and that got me to "The Hornets Hot-Line",
but all it had to offer was a recording of the home game schedule, no info 
on tickets. (Yeah, I know, they'd probably just tell me that all games are
already sold out.)

Any help would be most welcome. Go Bees. (Sign Mourning, damn it!)             
                                           
                                                -stuart@apollo.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: The Two Trades
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date:  9 Sep 92 17:19:53 GMT

jdm42241@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doug Mraz ) writes:

>4) Pooh Richardson is a great point guard. He can't shoot free throws, but
>he's been injury-free and averaged 8 assists last  year with 17 ppg. Plus
>he's reunited with UCLA backcourt mate Miller, so who knows?

For what it's worth, Reggie played small forward at UCLA, not off-guard.
So technically, he's wasn't in the backcourt.  However, it's kind of
irrelevant, since Reggie often stayed 30 feet from the rim anyhow.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: a-markov@microsoft.com (Mark Overby)
Subject: Roto League B-Ball
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:33:23 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa


For those of you who love the great sport of Basketball....I am setting
up an E-mail Roto league...no fee to enter....(which also means no cash
pot...), just for the fun of it!!

If you are interested, please E-mail me before October 24, 1992 so that I
can get all off the requisite information set up!!!


Mark A. Overby
a-markov@microsoft.com
From: terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Hakeem Olajuwon trade rumors
Keywords: Hakeem Olajuwon trade
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:40:14 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

Just read in clari.sports.basketball that new Hakeem Olajuwon trade rumors 
have been reported in the Houston Chronicle.  I read last week that 
Olajuwon definitely wants to be traded and that Miami was interested in
exchanging Sekeilay, Harold Miner, and one other player. Today's report
has Olajuwon going to the Clippers for Danny Manning, one other player,
and three draft picks.  Supposedly, the Rockets would then turn around
and trade the three picks to Orlando for Stanley Roberts. (i.e. if Stanley
does not veto another trade).  This would make a great deal of sense
for all parties involved.  The Clippers desparately need a center.  Charles
Smith does not like playing center and the Clippers have an overabundance of
forwards (although Manning is the best of them).  This would give Houston
a strong front line of Roberts, Manning, and Otis Thorpe.  And Orlando would
unload the huge salary of Roberts, who they don't really have room for.

I wonder if anyone out there has heard any other rumors or can confirm
or deny the ones discussed above.

				Terry Wong
				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU