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From: holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Rich Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer,alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Extended Memory Error -- Help!!
Date: 15 Sep 1992 16:07:25 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: XMS, HIMEM.SYS, boot

I grabbed the following message with SNIPPER from a cold boot of my '286:

===================[ Cut Here ]=================

HIMEM: DOS XMS Driver, Version 2.60 - 04/05/90
XMS Specification Version 2.0
Copyright 1988-1990 Microsoft Corp.

Installed A20 handler number 1.
I/O card parity interrupt at 026F:0342.
 Type (S)hut off NMI, (R)eboot, other keys to continue

===================[ Cut Here ]=================

If I hit [spacebar] everything seems to work just fine...It seems as if
I'm even allowed to use all 2 meg of my XMS (1648k available after a
ramdrive to hold command.com and a 384k SmartDrv disk cache).

I know a parity error is a problem with the chips.  We replaced the banks
though, and it works fine when I have the board configured as Expanded
(EMS) memory.  When I configure it as Extended (XMS) memory though, I 
get the above error.  What's wrong?  Is it something with the board, 
the chips, or just himem?

I don't particularly care about the error -- I still can use the memory
as far as I can tell -- but it's annoying that I have to hit a key to
get the computer to boot completely!  :-(

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From: Art_Beyersdorfer@edtng.uwp.edu (Art Beyersdorfer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Disk Drive Purchase?
Distribution: world
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:54:03 CST
Organization: Electric Dreams: The Next Generation BBS

Since you already have an ESDI controller for your ESDI drive, I don't see
that there is much to discuss.

However, the SCSI drivers are supposed to support more then just disk
drives, and, from everything I have been able to read, eventually handle
larger amounts of storage (I've seen some advertised at being able to
handle gig's of memory, versus the 1 to 2 gig maximum I've seen advertised
for ESDI).

Ok, how's that for not helping you?  <grin>

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From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: DOS installation
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:42:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of North Texas

In <BuBqAH.2JF@netnews.jhuapl.edu> avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.155224.1996@nntp.hut.fi>, jkokko@lesti.hut.fi (Jari 
>Kokko) writes:

>> Whenever some software wants something to be done from a particular
>> drive or path (in this case DOS wants to install from drive a:)
>> it is worthwhile to try assigning or substing in a way to fool it.
>> 
>> In your case try "assign a=b" or "subst a: b:\"

>I have already tried assign - unfortunately it does not work.  Is IBM prevent 
>people who do not want their hardware from using their software?

The other week I was trying to install DOS 5 (3-1/2" disks) on a system
with 5-1/4" A: drive and 3-1/2" B: drive.  I inserted the DOS 5 disk in
B: and started the install program.  The install prog had to be run from
drive A:.  I assigned B: as A: and tried it again.  It ran OK at first
but it then asked me to insert the DOS 5 disk into drive A: so it could
reboot.  That eliminated the assign.  Finally we had to open the case
and recable the floppies.  Not fun.

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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: 2 monitors
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:08:41 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <3557@ra.nrl.navy.mil> miner@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Les Miner) writes:

>I would like to thank all who responded to my post.  If anyone ever hears of a
>way to run 2 COLOR monitors off one PC please POST!

This may work if you have a VGA and 8514 combination.  Anyone?

>Here's another good one, can you run more than 2 hard drives on a 386?

That's easy.  Use SCSI.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jkokko@lesti.hut.fi (Jari Kokko)
Subject: Re: DOS installation
Reply-To: jkokko@lesti.hut.fi (Jari Kokko)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:03:54 GMT

avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie) wrote:
#
#I have already tried assign - unfortunately it does not work.  Is IBM prevent 
#people who do not want their hardware from using their software?
#
#Louis

Actually I was wrong before or didn't realize that the DOS install program 
wants to _boot_ from drive b:.

In that case it might pay to try out boot_b.* in nic.funet.fi.

I haven't tried it, but I saw it there today.

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From: damien@erich.triumf.ca (DAMIEN GALLOP)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: DR DOS, SSTOR, and SuperPCK memory lending question
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:39:00 GMT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep10.133743.25672@ns.network.com>, garym@ns.network.com (Gary J. Muellenberg) writes...
>I have drdos 6.01 ( received patch in May) on a generic 33 MHZ 386
> 
>Also now that I have a sstor volume, can I use the 32 bit disk access feature 
>of win 3.1 or will the sstor driver be bypassed and my disk trashed?
> 
>-Gary Muellenberg
>-- 

The 32-bit disk access feature applies to your uncompressed volume, because
that is where your swapfile is. I use it on a 60M IDE drive with great success.

					All the best. Damien
email: damien@reg.triumf.ca
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From: cgaeth@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil (Christopher Gaeth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: 688 attack sub and modem problem
Keywords: modem, ports, problem
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:13:33 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: U.S. Army Materiel Systems Analysis Activity

I really hate to ask this question in this newsgroup but I do not get
any of the "game" feeds at my site.  I'm apolgizing in advance if some
deem this post in appropriate for this newsgroup.  No flames Please!

Anyway on to the bussiness at hand.  

I have a game by Electronic Arts called 688 Attack Sub.  This game can
be played over a modem however it only allows for com1 and com2 to the modem.
My modem is on com3, hence my problem.  I tried a port switching program, 
PF 2.71, off of Simtel but it still wouldn't work.  Any help or advice would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: VT XXXX
From: Michel.Davidoff@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff)
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:27:28 PDT
Organization: Sonoma state university

Where can I find a good artical /Book about VT100,VT102,VT220,VT320 
What function keys they use how are they different

Michel
From: chena@crs.cl.msu.edu (Antony Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: .Z files ---->what are they, what do I do with them?
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:16:28 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

jbuchana@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Buchanan) writes:

>     I found a file that I want via ftp, but it is a format I do not recognize.
> It is youngones.Z.  What is the Z extension, and how do I get this to it's 
>useable form on my PC.  It is on my UNIX account now, I have not downloaded it 
>yet.  Is this for a PC or not?

The 'Z' is the compression from Unix.  Type:  'uncompress youngones.Z'
That'll get rid of the 'Z' and you can download it then to your PC.  The thing
is that if they compressed it using Unix, they might be telling you that it's
a Unix file.  Hope this helps...
From: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com (Sang Y. Yum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Bernoulli box
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:34:09 GMT
Reply-To: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Teradata/NCR

I need general information on Bernoulli Box.  I just got an old 386 with
Bernoulli Box sitting on it.  While cleaning up the hard disk, I accidentally
erase config.sys file, which I suspect already had setup for driver.

If anyone can supply me with how to setup the driver, I would greately
appreciate it.

Sang

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From: holland@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Gerhard den Hollander)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: FAXING via a PC
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:20:52 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

I have a PC with a 2400 baud modem,
I want to use this PC as a fax.

What are my options ?
prefered option a priogram which leds me send ascii files,
via my 2400baud modem like it's a fax message.
()Dunno if this is technically possible,
  I know nothing thereof.

Anybody who has ionfo on faxing via a pc,
please reply to me (Send only would be enopugh for now.

Greetings and thanks
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: johnson@speshr.enet.dec.com (Pete Johnson)
Subject: Is there a FAQ article anywhere?
Summary: Looking for DOS FAQ
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 15 SEP 92 15:52:57 EST

Is there a set of frequently-asked-questions (with answers) (aka FAQ) for
MS-DOS, like there is for MS-Windows?

Thanks,
Pete

Pete Johnson - DEC, Shrewsbury, MA USA
Internet:  johnson@speshr.enet.dec.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: P70008@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Bill Nelson)
Subject: Share and Netware
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Sep 1992 11:25:15 MST

Are there any known problems with Share and Novell Netware?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: picoop@brtpa45.bnr.ca 
Subject: Bus Speed Question
Reply-To: picoop@brtpa45.bnr.ca 
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:00:23 GMT

	I have a 386/33 AMI bios and my motherboard book says that I can change
my bus speed in the 
advance chipset part of my setup. There is no option for that there.

	Can any one help find out what bus speed I am running at and/or how to
change it. 

thanks

Kenneth Wright, the present user of this account, takes sole responsibility for
all commits and opinons contained in this article and none should be attributed
to or considered a rflection on his employers (BNR) or his supervisor
(Len Groulx)
or any organization  he is affiliated with.
Kenneth L. Wright Raleigh, NC, USA
From: burd@pilot.njin.net (Barry Burd)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Man pages for MSDOS?
Keywords: msdos man-pages
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:19:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I'm looking for online man pages for msdos.  The simpler the better.
Doesn't have to be any particular version, although DOS 4.xx would be
the most desireable.  Please reply to bburd@tarzan.drew.edu

Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: File transfer by using LPT
From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:08:34 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep3.103301.25487@jyu.fi>, jej@jyu.fi (Jukka E Jarvinen) writes:
> Is there any programs (commercial or shareware) for DOS 
> to transfer files from one PC to another one via paraller port (LPT)?

Yes, LapLink and others. Some magazine recently reviewed a bunch of them (it
might have been a UK mag... some kind person might supply the details of that 
article).

Mark Aitchison, University of Canterbury.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mallen@wyvern.twuug.com (Marc Allen)
Subject: Re: Tseng colours
Keywords: Tseng colours
Organization: Tidewater UNIX Users Group
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:43:33 GMT

news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:

>I've been using OS/2 for about a month now and I think it is fantastic. 
>Still, Windows 3.1 is pretty good too - especially with the number of 
>colours I can play with - 32K of them.

>This is not so much a question as a state of puzzlement...why isn't there 
>support for 256 colours or more for Tseng-4000 cards yet???

>True, I've seen the Orchid drivers, even tried a couple of them, but the 
>colours look a little funny and I'd like to think that Tseng themselves 
>might put out a driver set.

>P.S. I'm using an Everex Step 33 at work (which I think is Tseng based) and 
>a nornal Tseng (clone?) card at home which has the Windows 3.1 32K colour 
>drivers (640x480 and 800x600).

>Anyone have any comments?

Are you referring to OS/2 drivers?  If so, I can't help you.  There are
drivers for Windows, including turbo drivers for the ET4000.  I tried the
turbo drivers, but they messed up my fonts, so I went back to the ol'
04/02/92 series.

Marc

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: garym@ns.network.com (Gary J. Muellenberg)
Subject: DR DOS, SSTOR, and SuperPCK memory lending question
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:37:43 GMT

I have drdos 6.01 ( received patch in May) on a generic 33 MHZ 386
with 4 M of memory.  I let superpck use all of my available 3M of extended
memory and allow 2M of it for lending (for windows mainly), which has worked 
just fine.  I just installed sstor to compress 60 M of my 80 M drive, and 
everything seemed to work except Windows would not run saying "NOT ENOUGH 
EXTENDED MEMORY".  I was able to get windows to run by limiting the cache
size to 1M. So somehow sstor is affecting the lending feature of superpck.
Does anyone know how to solve this problem?

Also now that I have a sstor volume, can I use the 32 bit disk access feature 
of win 3.1 or will the sstor driver be bypassed and my disk trashed?

One last question - what was the email address for drdos tech support?
Thanks,

-Gary Muellenberg
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.periphs.scsi
From: ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: MSDOS 5.0 driver for Sony CDU-541 <--> Future Domain TMC-881 ?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:21:14 GMT

Subject says it all :

Where can I get a DOS 5.0 device driver for the CD-ROM drive Sony CDU-541
which works with the host adaptor Future Domain TMC-881 ? (My Seagate
Boot-HD is also connected to the TMC-881, driver is called DMDRVR).

Thanks for any info, Ernst. (e-mail preferred)
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From: miner@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Les Miner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: 2 Monitors
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:20:29 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Labs (Washington DC)
Originator: miner@hightop

I was just wondering...  Is there a way to run 2 monitors off of one PC?
I have a 386/33 running DOS 5.0 & Windows 3.1.  I have an additional
monitor & card, and would like to open more windows possibly on another
monitor.

Please post or send mail.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: busted FATs and whackt partition tables
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 00:52:23 GMT

i've just goten back into PC service recently and have only been 
using MSDOS 5 for a few weeks. in these few weeks i have seen an
astounding number of corrupted FATs, partition tables and file 
systems in general. i'm *very* tempted to blame DOS but i just 
don't know... every machine i'v seen this problem on had WP51
as well. is there an easy fix/known problem that causes these
sorts of errors?

also, just yesterday i partitioned a 102 MB drive to 51 and 51;
today, D: is gone. chkdsk c: shows correct numbers, but fdisk thinks
C: is 102 MB, which is absurd. Norton found the IBM stamp missing
from a partition (didn't say which one) and fixed that, but NDD also
thinks C: is 102 MB.  any ideas?

email please to 
tjreynol@du.edu
tim
thanks

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From:  (Luis Ochoa)
Subject: DOS 5.0 missing previous exe ?
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.misc
Organization: NIDCD: NIH:GOV
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:36:19 GMT

I would like to know what happened to the redir.exe in the current 
version DOS 5.0 ? My DOS 5.0 didn't come with a redir.exe.
 
I am setting up a package which requires the redir.exe .
This package was written to run for 3.30 -> 4.0 DOS.

Can anyone offer a solution for running the redir.exe which the 
package needs and which my DOS 5.0 doesn't as have.

Thanks
ochoa@alw.nih.gov
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: msdos,apps, help databases
Date: 07 Sep 92 06:12:10 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: na
Keywords: help databases, MSDOS, MSDOS APPS

In article <1992Sep1.173544.28402@cs.mun.ca> cyril@odie.cs.mun.ca (Cyril Mullins) writes:
>Does anyone know of MSDOS help databases (or q&a) available by anonymous ftp
>(or other means).  I am trying to build an online help system for a pc-lan
>using Clipper 5.01 and MSC 5.1.  Anything on msdos apps would be appreciated
>as well.

Cyril,

may not be what you're looking for, but most of microsoft's product support
database (officially called the 'KnowledgeBase') is available on
CompuServe. It's also available for purchase on cd-rom, don't know
if it'd be worth it for you.

There is 'internal' information which is not released at all, but
most of the information is availabled to the public in this way
or to product support callers. 

This database is written by and for product support, I've written
~80 articles on DOS.

MS-DOS, that is.

-jen





>cyril(at)odie.mun.cs.ca    sorry about the at but vi & windows terminal (3.1)
>won't recognize the key(?)  
>
>
>


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Subject: Re: DOS 5.0 missing previous exe ?
Originator: dspascha@c00082-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:38:14 GMT


Sorry all, I goofed.  I checked my DOS version 4.00 directory and there was
no REDIR*.*.

Tschuess,
David Paschal
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From: ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: 2 monitors
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:14:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BuEBst.2rn.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1590@cogsci.ucsd.EDU> hartung@crl.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung) writes:
}In article <exuptr.478.716144921@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
}>In article <3557@ra.nrl.navy.mil> miner@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Les Miner) writes:
}>>Here's another good one, can you run more than 2 hard drives on a 386?
}>
}>That's easy.  Use SCSI.
}
}You don't need to have a SCSI drive/card to have two hard drives.  It is quite
}possible in most cases to daisy chain a second hard drive onto and existing
}IDE drive.  This occasionally doesn't work with pairs of drives from different

There are also a few IDE controllers which handle four drives, and IDE
controllers which can be set to a secondary address (I don't know if the
intersection of these two sets is non-empty).  So you can have seven SCSI
drives and four IDE drives in one system....  You'll need drivers for the
SCSI disks, of course, and probably for the third and fourth IDE disks.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jbuchana@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Buchanan)
Subject: .Z files ---->what are they, what do I do with them?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:10:50 GMT

     I found a file that I want via ftp, but it is a format I do not recognize.
 It is youngones.Z.  What is the Z extension, and how do I get this to it's 
useable form on my PC.  It is on my UNIX account now, I have not downloaded it 
yet.  Is this for a PC or not?

     Any help is appreciated

     Matt]

     jbuchana@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Keypress and mouse click logging software
Summary: Software for logging userinterface usage needed
Keywords: logging, keypress, mouse
Organization: School of Maths and Info Sciences, Massey University, NZ.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:50:24 GMT

Hi,
my HOD asked me if there was any software around that logged a users 
keypresses and mouse clicks by time, so that we can do evaluations of 
different user interfaces, and the speed a user can use them. Hopefully 
there must be something like this out there in a psych department or a 
ergonomics lab?!

thanks

Brenden
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc