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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:46:48 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
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In article <1k47pdINN2ms@transfer.stratus.com>  
kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley) writes:
> I suspect that the real problem here is neither with the moviegoers  
who
> like to watch credits nor with the staff who clean the theater  
between
> showings -- it is with whoever schedules the showings.  He/she/they
> should allow sufficient time between the end of the credits and the
> beginning of the next showing so that watching the credits and  
cleaning
> the theater don't have to overlap.  Given better scheduling,  
moviegoers
> could watch till the very end in peace and the staff could get  
their
> work done without hassles.
> 
It seems to me that theatres leave more time between showings than
they used to. When I was growing up, there was maybe a ten 
minute break between showings. (I know because now and then
I used to sit through the same movie twice if I liked it.) These
days there seems to be at least 25 minutes between films.


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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: A correction...
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Distribution: usa,world
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:40:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.155128.2564@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>, warejd@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>It's always appreciated. It
>is taken very offensively that someone says that Mr. Fontana has a bad attitude
>because working in the theatre business is NOT a retail establishment and if
>you don't like our attitude then go work in a movie theatre and run things the
>way you want them run I think that after a few weeks youwould see things from a
>different point of view.

I agree with the "Walk a mile in another man's shoes" sentiment.
However, Mr. Dowaliby was expressing dislike for what he perceived to
be my attitude, not Mr. Fontana's.

-----
sss / Princeton University Class of 1994 / Department of Computer Science
Laws... so widely disobeyed and which cannot be enforced only promote
disrespect for the law in general. [NJ Ass'yman Mikulak, RE: 55 MPH
limit]

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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEAT
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 11:26:07 GMT

In article <6937.756.uupcb@ehbbs.gwinnett.com>, harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter)  writes:
>>Maybe where YOU go the movies.  I have worked at five movie theaters in
>>the Baltimore area, worked at one up here in Jersey, and seen movies at
>>a sixth one in Balto. on a regular basis.  There are always some people
>>who stay through the whole credits.  Enough to get in the way.  And then
>>they bitch that you disturbed them while they were trying to see who the
>>key grip's best boy's assistant was.
>
>They *did* buy a ticket, which pays the salary of the ushers, managers,
>etc.

As I have once again been quoted out of context on this matter (probably
not your fault, it's a really old message by now), allow me to clarify.

The above paragraph was prompted because I originally explained why it
can sometimes take so long to clean the theaters in between shows, if
the previous showing was well-attended and the patrons in that showing
were rather inconsiderate.  I commented how this only contributes to the
length of time that the next showing's patrons have to wait in the lobby
before they can go in, and often delays the start of the next show (plus
this effect snowballs across five shows... our late show of T2 was
consistently starting 15 minutes late in heavy business).

So, someone then asked why we couldn't start cleaning during the
credits, and the above was my (partially tongue-in-cheek) answer.
Since I don't like for the ushers to disturb patrons who stay to watch
the credits by constantly crossing their field of view, this delays
cleaning.

And as someone else has already pointed out, it's the concessions sales,
not ticket sales, that pays for most everything and everyone in the
theater except for the prints.

-----
sss / Princeton University Class of 1994 / Department of Computer Science
"I'd only be pathetic if I broke my word.  But I may be incredibly
ill-advised."  [Terry Pratchett, _Wyrd Sisters_]

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From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Subject: Re: Actress Question
Originator: jon@cyclone
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:57:53 GMT


In article <sterbenc-210193141346@150.130.23.185>, sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc) writes:
> > >>The woman in SUMMER SCHOOL wasn't the same one from BLAME IT ON RIO. (That
> > >>was Demi Moore) The girl in SUMMER SCHOOL was also in BIGTOP PEEWEE and
> 
> Demi Moore wasn't Michael Caine's lover in "Rio", she was his daughter. His
> lover was Jennifer somebody, I believe; nobody who's made a splash since,
> anyways.
> 
> =====
> Joe Sterbenc - Intelligent Vehicle Highway Systems - Motorola
> All opinions are my own, but can be rented for reasonable rates
> sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com
> =====

Actually her name is Michelle Johnson.  She did appear briefly in the Fox
series Werewolf as the lead character's girlfriend.  I don't know much
more than that.

Damn shame if she didn't do other stuff.


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From: lorenzo@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eric Lorenzo)
Subject: Re: Rising Sun
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:48:36 GMT

In article <00966F32.9EC42120@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9072falkk@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>I swore I saw a trailer for this film with Sean Connery playing the role
>of Conner.  Any news on a release date for this one?  Any word on other 
>members of the cast?

	'Rising Sun' based on Crichton's novel?



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From: hamster@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Where's the director?
Distribution: world
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Date: 24 Jan 93 01:29:41 AEDT
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In article <1993Jan22.163008.19232@colorado.edu> citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:

> After Hours - Martin Scorsese shining a spotlight from a platform in the
> 	after-hours club.
>
> Taxi Driver - Martin Scorsese is the guy in Travis Bickle's cab who tells him
> 	all about the .357 Magnum.
>
> The Doors - Oliver Stone is Jim Morrison's film professor.


"The Commitments" - Alan Parker is the record producer in the studio near
the end of the film; his cardboard cut-out can be seen in the background in
a video shop and cassettes of his films are on the shelves.

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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:51:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.002833.39037@datamark.co.nz>, thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.195029.5284@Princeton.EDU> spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>>
>>I hate to break this to you, but there *ARE* an incredible number of
>>stupid people in the world.  I have had people stand in front of a
>>marquee (with large easy-to-read numbers) and ask me what time the next
>>showing was.
>
>Gee whiz, are you the same guy who mentioned that you should never
>trust the session times shown in the news paper?

Yes I am.  This is in no way a contradiction.  Read on.  (Notice
"marquee" and "newspaper listing" are not the same thing.)

>Perhaps you should give us a guide to the likely veracity of any of
>the many sources so that we can avoid the same mistake.
>
>Sort of a :
>
>	Newspaper	"Ha, we can't be bothered getting these right."

Um, no, these SHOULD be right, but people fuck up.  In our division
where I work at home, the person who submits schedules to the paper is
the division manager's secretary, who is somewhat removed from the
actual theaters.  Also the papers screw up occasionally.  They're
generally accurate, but to be sure you should check the recording and/or
the marquee.

>	Marquee		"Spot on, every time."

It should be, yes.

>	Employee	"Hey man, I only work candy counter."

Employees should know all show times or have them on a card or something
in their pockets at all times.  Managers too.

>	Phone		"Well, the tape was up to date last month."

This should be accurate also.

In short, the papers are usually correct, but call the recording or look
at the marquee.  If *those* are wrong then someone's not doing their
job.

>Perhaps some of the cinema workers who read this group should learn
>something about customer service?

Dunno, some of the patrons reading this group seem to need to learn
that employees in any business are also human beings and deserve to be
treated as such.

-----
sss / Princeton University Class of 1994 / Department of Computer Science
Be excellent to each other and party on.
From: jwp@aber.ac.uk (J W Perkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:09:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

>-- 
> "IF YOU SEE ONLY ONE MOVIE THIS YEAR..."  |  Mark A. Fontana
>        ...you should get out more often!  |  Computer and Info. Science
>     Projectionist, AMC Dublin Village 14  |  THE Ohio State University


Surely this quote was from the very end of HOT SHOTS or HOT SHOTS 2.1/2. I
recognise it because I insisted on staying for the full credits........

                                                           Jeremy Perkins
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From: jordan@castor (Ground Chuck)
Subject: ONE FALSE MOVE
Organization: University of Georgia
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:52:15 GMT

Siskel and Ebert put this movie (ONE FALSE MOVE) on their Top 10 of 1992 
list, but I went ahead to see it anyway.  I recommend it very highly.  It's
the best movie I saw in 1992 (but I don't watch many recent movies at all.)

Especially if you live in a college town, it might be shown again because
of the press it's getting around Oscar time.

Part of what I liked about the movie was that even though all the reviews
said that it wasn't what I would expect, I saw it and it wasn't at all what
I expected.  The story, if described in a paragraph, would seem unoriginal
and even unappealing, but the execution works -- it's in places suspenseful,
meaningful, disturbing, witty, and exciting.  I think it was excellently
done, without a lot of flash.  Most all of the characters were realistic
and their dialogue authentic, and it only occasionally lapsed into stereo-
type.  In short, I don't recommend that many movies, but I do recommend
you all see this one...

Chuck

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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Subject: Re: Trailers That Give It Away: Was(Re: Review:  SCENT OF A WOMAN)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:58:41 GMT

9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
> Personally I don't care for trailer like Toys, or Jurassic Park 
> where you get absolutely no idea what the movie is about.

	I did not like the trailer for Toys, either, although a
number of critics seemed to love it.
	I thought the trailer for HOFFA was awful, because it
was so good and then the movie sucked.  The trailer showed all
of the worthwhile scenes in the movie. 
	Continuing in the "Will Loaded Weapon Be Funny?" theme,
I don't think so, because if you remember the trailers for
Naked Gun 2 1/2, the trailers showed virtually all of the funny
scenes in the movie.  I will wait for it on video.

	--Chris Wrike
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From: GRAJEK@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Susan Grajek)
Subject: Re: HOWARDS END with spoilers
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 07:39:29 EST

In article <1993Jan19.205052.20748@infonode.ingr.com>
dianne@dianne.b24a.ingr.com (Dianne Ferrans) writes:
 
>
>Lots of spoilers, discussion only for those who've seen it.......
>
>
>
>
>I've got some questions about HE.  I feel I'm missing something deeper
>here.  I loved the movie, but unlike Enchanted April, I felt it was
>somewhat unstructured.  What exactly was it that we were learning
>here (if anything at all?)  That the intermingling of the lower
>classes with the upper classes can lead to the destruction of both?
>That you shouldn't try to cheat fate? (about the house ownership)
>All of this and more??  Did I "get" the lesson, was there no lesson,
>or am I still missing the point?
 
To me one of the main themes of Howards End was openness vs. deception.  Wilcox
was all deception.  Even the way he proposed to Emma Thompson used deception --
lured her back to London on the pretext of renting her his house, and then he
proposed.  And he couldn't even be open about his proposal.  Emma Thompson's
character, on the other hand, was always open -- except when Wilcox was able
to force deception on her, as when she lured her sister to Howards End.
There's lots more in the movie to fit that theme.
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From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: SOLARIS questions
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:09:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <rabjab.20.727495946@golem.ucsd.edu> rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (rabjab) writes:
<In article <1993Jan19.042942.28576@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
<Concerning Solaris:
<
<>2) What is the meaning of the Black & White vs. Color segments of the
<>film.  At first I thought B&W signified the TV/films, but towards the
<>end some are in color.  Then I thought B&W signified dreams or imagi-
<>nation.  But that doesn't always seem to hold together either.
<
<In my understanding, when Tarkovsky runs out of film, he grabs whatever
<happens to be available to him, B&W or color.  Seriously!

	Oh, be serious.  In case you are not joking my serious answer is
that this is patently absurd.

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Who will be famous  (was Re: well know film, well)
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:05:44 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <3220104@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gorrindo@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Sue Gorrindo) writes:
>Yes, but Harrison Ford was not famous when he appeared in
>
>AMERICAN GRAFFITI.

  A good one, but it's pretty trivial to take a famous person
  and identify one of his or her early films.  

  Are there any relative unknowns that you've seen recently and 
  feel will become famous for his or her performance and
  those that it will lead to? 
  
  Who was the kid in _Little Man Tate_?  Even if it was a 
  sappy movie, I thought he was pretty damn good.

  Wayne
From: wdw@sybase.com (Wayne Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: I'M ALL RIGHT, JACK question
Date: 19 Jan 93 02:33:08 GMT
Reply-To: wdw@sybase.com (Wayne Wong)
Organization: Sybase, Inc.


Hi --

I've just seen I'M ALL RIGHT, JACK, a 1959 British satire
on labor unions featuring Peter Sellers in one of his first
breakthrough roles, as the officious shop steward Mr. Kite,
which was the name that appeared in the closing cast credits.

However, at the very end of these credits I saw him
listed a second time as "Sir John <something>".

Though I know well of his skill at disguises both facial
and vocal, I couldn't figure out where in the film
he appeared as this other person. (Unfortunately, I didn't
tape the film.)

Can anyone help/hint?


Thanks,


Wayne
From: philw@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Philip W White)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Name of hotel in The Shining?
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:52:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1993Jan22.223008.2792@colorado.edu> citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.165926.6116@mixcom.com> Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>>In <1993Jan19.213043.639@pages.com> roxanne!sue (Sue MacIntosh) writes:
>>
>>>Does anyone know the real name and location of the hotel featured in The  
>>>Shining?
>>
>>>(... if indeed there is a real hotel...)
>>
>
>The word around here is that the hotel was inspired by the Stanley Hotel in
>nearby Estes Park.  King lived in Boulder for a while (and I'm told it's 
>a setting in The Stand, although I haven't read it).
>
>I've heard that the exterior shots in the film were shot at a hotel in Oregon,
>but I don't know where or what the hotel was called.
>
Timberline Lodge, which is near the southernmost point at the timberline
on Mt. Hood.  Hood is in northwest Oregon, summit about 11,500', timberline
about 6,000'.  Built by Civilian Conservation Corps workers so probably
completed about 1935.  A stunning huge rustic-style hotel, still run as
a hotel, lots of handmade fittings inside.
 
However only exteriors were filmed there, interiors were some other building.
And some of the chase-through-the-snow shots don't look like they
were filmed within 2 miles of Timberline.
 
You can ski at Timberline from November to August or September.
Check it out next time you visit!
 
      Phil White   Tektronix, Beaverton, OR
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From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:59:59 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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Summary: Re: Well known film, well known actor (to be)

In article <C11LM1.C7K@news.swip.net>, bk@analytikerna.se (Bengt KLEBERG) writes:
> A (minor) hobby of mine is to 'collect' well know films that featured a famous actor/actress before they became famous. Examples:
> 
> Harrision Ford in Apocalypse Now
> Cristopher Walken in Anni Hall
> (this last one is not strictly ok but I'm runing out of examples)
> Nicolas Cage in Rumble Fish
> 
> Could some better informed souls out there help me with this list of
> actors/actresses - films ?
> 
> ---
> 
> Bengt KLEBERG		bk@analytikerna.se

How's this one?

Mickey Rourke plays the recently paroled arsonist who advises William Hurt
on how to burn up the "Breakers" in "Body Heat"

Sharon Stone.... fake wife of Arnie in "Total Recall"

James Caan in El Dorado(old John Wayne movie 60's)

Steve McQueen in "The Blob"

Jessica Lange in "King Kong"

Jack Nicholson in "Little Shop of Horrors"


Coz




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From: Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Name of hotel in The Shining?
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:59:26 GMT

In <1993Jan19.213043.639@pages.com> roxanne!sue (Sue MacIntosh) writes:

>Does anyone know the real name and location of the hotel featured in The  
>Shining?

>(... if indeed there is a real hotel...)

>Please email your response.  Thanks.

>Sue


   The mythical Overlook Hotel in the Shining were sets built on the lot at
EMI studios in England. However it is based on an actual hotel in very
similar conditions that writer Stephen King actually stayed at alone for an
entire month to write the book. I have an interesting article about this
around somewhere... I'll try to find it and post it here.

   Interesting to note that a fire on the ballroom set sparked by the very,
very high voltage lights used for the Shining was responsable for holding up
production of the Star Wars sequel "The Empire Strikes Back". after repairs
were made, however, Lucas' crew moved in and the planet Dagobah sprouted up
and Yoda still had a home.

-Ray
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From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Subject: Re: ONE FALSE MOVE
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:17:21 GMT

In article <C16tJ3.7zs@athena.cs.uga.edu> jordan@castor (Ground Chuck) writes:
>type.  In short, I don't recommend that many movies, but I do recommend
>you all see this one...
>

   Seconded, enthusiastically.  Of course, I am wild about Bill
   Paxton, and offer this as an additional leverage point.

   Wayne
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Golden Globe Winners
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:57:42 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1993Jan24.233545.20746@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Eric Lorenzo) writes:
>
>	Could someone explain what the Golden Globe Awards are?  It seems
>everyone is claimning to have won one in their movie commercials.  Are they
>considered prestigious (not as much as Oscar of course)?

	Pia Zadora won one once.  Do *you* think they could be prestigious?

>       --    O          The thrill is                   Eric J. Lorenzo
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