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From: gnash@ee.uts.edu.au (Greg Nash)
Subject: Re: Win NT support in OS/2
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:22:41 GMT

>>  I've read that Microsoft and IBM will not be renewing their
>>code cross-licensing agreement when it expires next year, but
>>IBM will continue ad perpetuum to have rights to the code for
>>Windows 3.0, 3.1, and NT, because they are covered by the
>>current licensing agreement.  So can we expect Windows NT
>>support in OS/2 3.0, when it becomes available next year?
>>Obviously, it will require a 486 instead of a 386 and will
>>probably have a major upgrade price tag attached to it,
>>but you have to look ahead, right?  Microsoft has already
>>begun work on the Windows 4.0 software to replace Windows NT.
>>The pace of change in this market is astounding!
>>  (All this is, of course, moot if I don't get my Win 3.1
>>  support on the September CSD...)
Current comment in .advocacy suggests that NT will be a rather different
kind of beast to OS2, and NT won't be competing for the desktop anyway.
It's more like trying to run X clients and servers on top of DOS, with
full multi-tasking. I am aware Desqview does something LIKE that, but
why isn't everyone using it?

Win NT doesn't bother me at the moment since its purpose and target market
has very little to do with my needs.

 -- Greg Nash
(gnash@ee.uts.edu.au)
From: sam@ms.uky.edu (Mike Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Minimized Window Viewer suggestion...
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:58:09 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Is it just me, or does anyone else wish that the Minimized Window Viewer
would do an "auto-arrange" whenever you iconize something?

I've relegated a medium window for the viewer, and as it is, half the time
when I iconize something, it goes out of "view" even though there is plenty
of real estate left in the window (I use the small icons and fonts); ie, I
have to either use the scrollbars, or manually choose "Arrange" from the
menu.

I rather like the viewer, but wish it would automatically attempt to place
the icons within "view".


-- 
--Mike Mills              E-Mail:  sam@ms.uky.edu, {rutgers, uunet}!ukma!sam
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From: henshaw@emperor.gatech.edu (Andy Henshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Hercules Graphic Station in DOS session
Keywords: Hercules, TIGA
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:56:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Originator: henshaw@emperor

I am trying to run my Hercules Graphic Station Card (TIGA) in a
DOS session.  Some of the graphics modes seem to work fine, but
the 512x480x24, specifically does not.  I load tigacd and run
ctm to change the mode and then run chktiga, which switches into
graphics mode and displays text telling me that it was successful.
This works fine for 1024x768x8, 640x480x8, and 640x480x16, but
512x480x24 doesn't work, nor does 640x480x8 (with 2 pages).

I've tried all of the DOS session settings that I could think of,
including excluding the memory from C000-C7FF (C0000-C8000 ).

Specifically, I'm trying to run the TGAVU targa viewing utility.
No luck.  I would appreciate some suggestions.

Thanks,

Andy Henshaw
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Two cool bugs!
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:55:46 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug12.210835.17251@unixg.ubc.ca> duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Pat Duffy) writes:
>Hi Dave.  I don't know if I made myself clear enough, so just to be sure:  
>
>1) Open the settings for an OS/2 full-screen session.
>2) Change the session to full-screen DOS.
>3) Change a DOS setting.
>4) Change the session back to OS/2 full-screen
>5) Run the OS/2 full-screen.
>6) No settings for the OS/2 full-screen session except the DOS settings that
>   were changed.
>7) Open the settings for the OS/2 full-screen session.
>8) Change it to a DOS full-screen session.
>9) Change the settings back to the defaults.
>10) Change the session back to OS/2 full-screen.
>11) All the environment variables in config.sys are restored.

Nope.  This is really strange.  Not at all proper.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jwh@citi.umich.edu (Jim Howe)
Subject: Re: Dentist.  Where can I get it?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:27:42 EDT
Organization: IFS Project, University of Michigan
Reply-To: jwh@citi.umich.edu

In article <-90mgm+@lynx.unm.edu>, cn0gr8af@hydra.unm.edu (Student Class Account) writes:
|> I would like to modify the standard display.dll driver (for standard vga).
|> Can I do this with "Dentist"?
|> 

Depending on what you want to modify in the dll you may want to look
at a tool called EXE Tool.  It is a PM based tool which lets you
view, modify, and extract resources from EXE, DLL and RES files.
The current version supports extraction and updating of 1.x
executable files and extraction only for 2.0 files.  It's not
shareware, or freeware, however.  It costs $49.95 + 5.00 s/h.
If you want more information let me know.

BTW, I'm the author of EXE Tool.


James W. Howe                 internet: jwh@citi.umich.edu
                                  uucp: uunet!mailrus!citi.umich.edu!jwh
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer
From: jammin@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Ben Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: S3 support, "G-HOSTS3" viedo board questions...
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:39:27 GMT
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

Does anyone know if i will need to get a specific driver for the 
G-HOSTS3 video board in my 486?
or will drivers forother company's S3 video boards work fine?
what is the res/colors of the standard "VGA" for os/2 installation?
...the "SVGA"?
well, thanx in advance.
                                        jammin@hogbbs.scol.pa.us
        *krop tae*
BTW, comp.os.os2.misc is the _BEST_ thing since, oh, well,
i dunno.
I _DO_ know i like it a lot...
From: hethmon@hydra1f.cs.utk.edu (PAUL HETHMON)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Changing the title color of Shadow Icons
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:20:17 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: hethmon@hydra1f.cs.utk.edu (PAUL HETHMON)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra1f.cs.utk.edu

In article <1992Aug12.171358.13372@njitgw.njit.edu>, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
|> In article <713459988snx@tgm.CAM.ORG> eric@tgm.CAM.ORG (Eric Trepanier) writes:
|> >Hello Everyone,
|> >
|> >I have several "shadow" icons on my OS/2 desktop which were created from
|> >several different Folders.  I have an OS/2 shell shadow icon, a WinOS2
|> >full screen icon, etc.  The question is: How do I specify the color of
|> >those icon's titles?  Right now, they are the default dark gray color
|> >used by OS/2, but I have a dark cyan background desktop, so I can hardly
|> >see them.  Which of the color setting from the Palette Scheme corresponds
|> >to the color of shadow icon titles?  I tried changing "Drop Shadow" and
|> >"Shadow Text" but they only work if I ALT-drag the palette on the whole
|> >system.  Since I have different color schemes for several different
|> >windows/folders, this is not a solution.
|> 
|> Have you tried dragging the scheme to the folder that the shadowed
|> icon originated from?  Just a wild idea, but it might work.  For
|> example, I shadowed the drive icon from the "drives" folder to the
|> desktop.  So I might try dragging a scheme to the drives folder to
|> change the shadows' text.
|> 
|> Just an idea.
|> -- 
|>    |)  David Charlap           "I don't even represent myself
|>   /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   sometimes so NJIT is right out!.
|>  ((|,)
|>   ~|~  Hi! I am a .signature virus, copy me into your .signature file.

Just a few thoughts on the topic.  As previously posted, the ALT-drag is the
only way to now change shadow text, but if you have previously changed
settings via scheme palette or color palette they will not change when you
ALT-drag (though this seems silly given what ALT-drag is suppose to do).

Another consideration from the redbooks is that IBM suggests not using
to many shadows for a couple of reasons 1) when you change things on the
shadows settings, they are reflected in the original (which may or may
not be good depending on your opinion) and 2) shadows clutter up the
os2.ini and os2sys.ini files more than copies do.  I've forgotten the
exact wording and clutter may not be appropriate, but with all the
extended attributes, linking, etc. IBM feels that copies will perform
better and are a better solution.  And since your only copying the 
program object, memory usage is not really a problem.  I wouldn't think
there would be much difference between a shadow and a copy in that instance.

Paul Hethmon
hethmon@cs.utk.edu



Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: OS/2 Drivers for Diamond
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:42:57 GMT

In article <65761@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tom Sorensen) writes:
> In <22723.689.uupcb@spacebbs.com> michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) writes:
> 
> >I get real uncomfortable thinking about the 32-bit engine and its soon
> >release.  This may provide S3 with an excuse for slipping the 16-bit
> >drivers, claiming that they would rather do the 32-bit ones instead.
> >We would then have exactly nothing...  Regards, Mikey
> 
> Why shouldn't they? If they develop 16-bit drivers now (ie- had them out
> TODAY, which obviously isn't possible) they wouldn't support seemless windows,
> and when you got the 32-bit GUI they wouldn't work at all. What would you have
> then? Exactly nothing. <g>
> 
> As a consolation- the 32-bit GUI is supposed to ship w/ many SVGA drivers for
> popular boards. With luck the S3 chipset will be among them.
>           Tom Sorensen
> -- 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tom Sorensen              gt0040a@prism.gatech.edu
> "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system,
> and possibly program, of all time." - Bill Gates, November, 1987


The 32-bit VGA and XGA Graphical Rendering Engines (GRE's) are almost ready
now. The 32-bit SVGA and 8514 GRE's will follow soon after in that order.
 
A decision has not been made as to whether or not - or how much - to charge
for these. Obviously, a LOT of money has been spent producing them.

Steve
-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | "But the glory kept shining
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  and bright in my eyes, 
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            |  And the stars going round in 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  my head." R. L. S.
From: mhayashi@gus.ecn.purdue.edu (Mathew S Hayashi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Switching between WPS & Win-OS/2: Mouse pointer vanishes ??
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:32:23 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I start full-screen Win-OS/2 fine. I can switch back to the WPS 
"Desktop" without problems.  However, when I try to switch back
to full-screen Win-OS/2 I loose my mouse--- the mouse is FULLY active,
but, the pointer is invisible.
	I am using a ProIIs video card and the Windows 3.0 1024x768 
driver.
	Any help is appreciated.
--
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                           --/\-----    Mat Hayashi
                           | O   O |    mhayashi@ecn.purdue.edu
                           |   ^   |
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Word Perfect under OS/2
From: regy106@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (John, Registry)
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:46:57 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <l96cq1INN4dl@aludra.usc.edu>, ddurby@aludra.usc.edu (Dennis Durby) writes:
> In article <568RPB1w164w@gorilla.nbn.com> holmes@gorilla.nbn.com (Tim Holmes) writes:
>>When I use WP 5.1 under OS/2, it has a very hard time opening 
>>text files.  Little ones will eventually open, but with large ones,
>>say over 80k, WP says "DOS text conversion in progress", but it
>>just sits there for minutes (or longer, I haven't waited) with
>>no hard disk accesses or anything.  I went through it with
>>IBM Tech Support in Florida, and they were able to duplicate the problem, 
>>but it was kind of left as, "well, you should call back and see if
>>there's any news, this report will be automatically erased in
>>28 days."  Didn't inspire too much confidence.
>>
>>There must be people running WP under OS/2.  This seems like a
>>pretty major bug.  I hope this one isn't just erased after 28 days.
>>Anybody out there have this problem?  Or a work around for it?
>>
> 
> Tim-  Wait 'til you try a merge!  In about 15 minutes, it'll merge 5 or so
> names into a letter.  Incredibly slooooowwww.  However, a work-around for 
> the problem you outlined.  I have this happen too.  Instead of using R or 1 
> for "Retrieve" document, highlight the document name in F5 (list files), then
> press CTRL-F5, and then release.  The document will come on screen rather 
> quickly (I believe this option was mentioned in some older wordperfect stuff 
> unrelated to OS/2 a few years back).  It seems to retrieve with CR/LF as 
> a hard return.  Don't have a work around for soft return yet.  I just wish 
> the damn thing would work with a simple "R" from the List Files screen.
> 
> Anyhow, best of luck.  Oh, in the future, please post questions regarding 
> apps to the comp.os.os2.apps list instead of here on comp.os.os2.misc .
> Hope this works for you!
> 
> -Dennis Durby-
> durby@aludra.usc.edu
> 
> 
> 
	I am using wordperfect for windows and although it is slow starting up
it is quick once it is there.  I merged 35 names and address into a letter in 
seconds.  I haven't tried loading in big text documents.  I do have a problem
sometimes when I have looked at a document then closed it, from a OS/2 prompt
it thinks I have it still locked.  I cant't see it any where in WP and the only
way to access it is to quit out of WP for windows.
John
From: buckley@milton.u.washington.edu ( )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Stolen CPU cycles (100%!)?
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:35:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug16.223547.8781
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


  I'm having a problem with stolen CPU cycles.  I have a 486/50
with 8 meg ram.  When I first run OS/2 everything works fine, but
after a few moments  PULSE gets pegged at 100% use (usually after
launching an application).  If I close all applications and wait there 
is no change.  Does anyone know how to fix this problem?
Jim

buckley@milton.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel)
Subject: Re: Win NT support in OS/2
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:13:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.224740.2776@cs.brown.edu> wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.171206.305@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dtl8v@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU (Douglass Thornton Lamb) writes:
>>current licensing agreement.  So can we expect Windows NT
>>support in OS/2 3.0, when it becomes available next year?
>
>*FLAME ON*
>
>This is the most idiotic article I've ever seen on the net.  Why should
>IBM support Windows NT, which is supposed to be OS/2's opponent? We've
>gotten enough of those bullshit expressed by those who are supposed
>to have brains. The support of Windows 3.0/DOS is used to ease the
>pain of *migrating* the users into the OS/2 2.0 kingdom. If you like 
>Windows NT, go get the CD ROM and leave us alone.

The most important thing to us customers is for OS/2 to support
applications.  That's why the DOS and Windows 3.0 emulations are
there; that's why an upgrade for 3.1 applications is being done.

If MS' efforts succeed and there is a flood of 32 bit NT applications,
but only a trickle of OS/2 2.0 32-bit applications, then I can
envision a time when IBM adds NT support to OS/2 2.0.  I think it
would be a good thing for customers.  But I don't think it'll be soon,
and I don't think it's a goal of IBM's right now.

If you want 32 bit applications, you have to wait.  You have to wait
for the OS/2 applications, or for NT applications.  NT applications
certainly won't ship until after the OS is delivered (my crystal ball
says 2nd or 3rd quarter '93).  OS/2 native applications should be
coming around in the next few months.

Heck, it might just be NT that adds an OS/2 32-bit API server, to run
OS/2 applications...
-- 
Richard Krehbiel                                 richk@grebyn.com
OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
From: ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Diamond Speedstar SVGA adapter with OS/2 2.0
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:28:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Hi, OS/2 2.0 gurus with Gateway 2000's who have the same Diamond
Speedstar card as I do. (Came std. with the 486 33Mhz. EISA m/c)
Are there drivers available which will work with OS/2 ? If not will
Win/OS2 work in SVGA mode if so where can I get the drivers ? How do I
i install them ? Can someone give me the ftp site address and file name
es so I can get them. Thanks in advance.

Ashwath Ram
ashwath@gn,ecn.purdue.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Idea for a unique delete?(for lack of a better description)
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:08:47 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug13.104201.21850@wraxall.inmos.co.uk> des@frogland.inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd) writes:
>1) write a script CLRTRASH.CMD
>
>DEL C:\TRASH\*.* /<??>
>
>with whatever the option is to delete with out confirm

Or just do this:

CD C:\TRASH
FOR %%A IN (*) DO DEL %%A
CD C:\

This works under all versions of DOS as well - just replace the * with
a *.*
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From: gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tom Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Drivers for Diamond
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:10:13 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <22723.689.uupcb@spacebbs.com> michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) writes:

>I get real uncomfortable thinking about the 32-bit engine and its soon
>release.  This may provide S3 with an excuse for slipping the 16-bit
>drivers, claiming that they would rather do the 32-bit ones instead.
>We would then have exactly nothing...  Regards, Mikey

Why shouldn't they? If they develop 16-bit drivers now (ie- had them out
TODAY, which obviously isn't possible) they wouldn't support seemless windows,
and when you got the 32-bit GUI they wouldn't work at all. What would you have
then? Exactly nothing. <g>

As a consolation- the 32-bit GUI is supposed to ship w/ many SVGA drivers for
popular boards. With luck the S3 chipset will be among them.
          Tom Sorensen
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and possibly program, of all time." - Bill Gates, November, 1987
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Subject: Re: TCP/IP v.1.2; software dependancies and recommendations?
Reply-To: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Organization: New Mexico State University - Electromagnetics Group
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc,local
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:20:31 GMT


In an article Fred Neasham writes:
>Greetings! A couple of months back I ordered TCP v.1.2 for a faculty
>member here at the U. of AZ., then went on vacation. Yesterday he tried
>to install it on his new copy of OS/2 2.0 and it failed with "complaints
>about sockets". As I
>am remote to his site, I had him call IBM Austin where they told him that
>he needed to buy the Extended Edition Communications manager. This is not
>my understanding of the software requirements, nor is it so stated in the
>manual. Can you verify the depandant pieces he must have, and what .CMD, memory
>size, or other configuration tips you are willing to share? We have a large
>Ethernet 10baseT install, with Internet connections, so he desires to
>run multiple telnet clients/server sessions with SMTP, NFS, LPx, NNTP, FTP
>simultaneously while doing WIN-OS2 applications boxes.

The TCP/IP stuff is NOT dependent on OS/2 ES or LS. You only need the base
OS/2 2.0 package (and I think it runs under v1.3 as well). I've seen it
installed on 3 PC's here, all of which had OS/2 2.0 installed from the
Windows/DOS upgrade deal (i.e. $49 package) and they all run the network
stuff without too many hitches. I can say that if you intend to run the
base package and NFS you would be better off to have 16MB of RAM, as you
state this fellow has. 8MB is BARELY enough and there is a severe
performance penalty if you have 8MB or less. Now, that said, maybe they
were telling him to get ES and that would fix his problem? Doesn't make
sense to me put I suppose it's possible?

Good Luck,
Gary Hennigan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Re: Scanner with OS/2 driver
Keywords: scanner
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:41:13 GMT

In article <stritzi.714148715@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE> stritzi@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Peer Stritzinger) writes:
>I'm looking for a scanner with software which runs under OS/2.
>
>Any recommendations out there?
>
>--

Me too! I have a logitech scanman 256, which works using their DOS
software in a OS/2 VDM. However, it is not supported in WIN-OS2. 
Apparently it uses an unsupported call and won't be fixed until
the next drop. What I really need is an OS/2 image editing software
package that has scanner support built in. Anyone know if the Zsoft
product does this.


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From: laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Mice supported on COM1:-COM4: only?
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:33:04 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I've been trying to free up a COM: port by switching to a bus mouse.
The bus is on a Sota VGA card that supports IRQ2-5 and address ranges
of 23C-23F and 238-23B.  I tried installing it as a MS bus mouse, but
it didn't go.

The "tech" at IBM kept giving me COM: addresses and IRQ's, and I kept
saying that I'm using a BUS mouse.  We didn't understand each other.

Any advice?  I'd love to get that COM: port freed up for the UPS.

Thanks!

--kyler

P.S. I tried to find the FAQ at hobbes in 2.0/info, but I didn't see
it.  Sorry if this is answered in the FAQ file.
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