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From: youngj4@warren1c.its.rpi.edu (Jeffrey Young)
Subject: Timeless Idylls...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:03:36 GMT


The hum of the airconditioner, like the hum of the dragon sitting next
to me.. the keyclicks counterpoint to the other users activty across
the room.  A cough as someone apparently has a summer cold, still left
over.   I look out the window, and see the blue sky over
the roof of Hall Hall.. sunlight streams in past the airconditioner,
across the back of the monitor across from me.  

I lift the recorder to my lips, and play a few soft notes, getting
one turn of the head from someone else to look at me.  Sudrith,
of course, is stretched out down the asile and around the desk,
wings folded neatly to his back.  Nobody seems to notice him, but
then nobody's tried getting out of their chairs, either. 
Softly, the words of a song come to mind..

   The Road Lost And Found Again..
 ----------------------------------by Jeffrey  'Taldin' Young..
   
In the worlds all far and near,
  the magick, held most dear...
To all, who hope and dream
  Is love..and life 
   Eternal light..

In the night when I did sleep..
  To my side, the shadows creep..
In darkness, some things call it home
 And others weather it alone..

All my years I spent in sleepness nights
 And forlorn, empty dreams..
 Or nightmares, who are mirrors
   dark to unicorns...

Never did I hope, to find along my way..
A love that could take me in kind,
 And walk with me my days evermore ..

For a time I chased elusive lights..
 Indulged in glamories and seems..
   I do not want to count the errors..
    ..or the lonely, waking morns..

But it seems, this dawn, I greet the day..
 with one, in soul and mind...
  who would be with me..forevermore..

Can we walk this road together..
 Can we move in sync and not drift apart..
I would be, your love forever..
  ..may our roads, m'love, never part.

(Now to set that to music..)


 I scribble on the page, 'dedicated to m'love..' and put it
away.  Look up, and notice you all watching. 
 Abrupt point of view change..

"Heya again..", says Taldin.  << And hello from me as well. >> Sudrith.
The self-styled Blue Unicorn has a smile on his face.  And a look
of peace, and relaxed idyll that has 'He hasn't done his homework.' 
written all over it.  Today he's wearing jeans, and a bright blue
t-shirt with a cracking bright pink iron-on of a unicorn and the
name 'TALDIN' in bright red letters on it, with UNICORN on the reverse.
Sudrith, of course, is his usual blue self. 
 "Feeling wonderful today, figured I'd share some of my sunlight 
with you today. Hope you don't mind, it doesn't happen often here,
what with this being Troy and all..*grin*"

"Hi. Just hi."

Taldin and Sudrith

-- 
TTTTT AA    LL DDDD   II   II NN      "I don't believe in a religion
   TT  AA   LL DD  D  II   II NNNN      that doesn't believe in me."
  TT  AAAA  LL DD   D   II II NN NN        Taldin The Blue Unicorn
 TT  AA  AA LL DDDDDD IIIIII  NN  NN          youngj4@pawl.rpi.edu
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: libertarianism
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:19:35 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

"You know, in all this discussion of vitamins, etc. there is a
thread that annoys me, which is a very American attitude, in
its worst sense.  It's that the society is somehow responsible
for the actions of the individual.  Folks who sue because they
took to much vitamin A, or fourty-two asperin, or complain
that the vaccuum didn't have a warning lable saying it was
"not to be used for sexual purposes" are people I regard as
working on their personal Darwinian selection, and *I*
personally have no sympathy for their problem.  It leads to
such madness as the (possibly apocrythcal) warning label on
the lawnmower about not sharpening the blade while the motor
is running.

"And this leads to repression, and lack of options.  The
government bans stuff.  People stop manufacturing stuff.  A
great example is what happened to the Saunders bird blunt.  I
used to do "war archery."  We were using modified Saunders
blunts, and word got back to the company that we were using
them to shoot at other people (in lots of protective gear).
The company stopped manufacturing the damned things, because
they were afraid of a lawsuit.  Now, if you want to do war
archery, you have to use these Marklin blunts that handle like
a pig and are sissy-wimp stuff that don't represent real
archery at all.  (They have big wads of foam on the end.)  I
hate being denied a fun hobby because someone is afraid I
might get hurt.  Maybe the government will ban martial arts,
next...

"Yes, I'm basically a socialist-anarchist.  That government is
best, which governs least.  It runs several generations deep
in my family.  I don't want to be a marching droid, thank
you."


--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"Don't be so open-minded your brains fall out."  --Barry
Shein, on the net
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From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: cider re: I tried the magic(on)
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:57:58 GMT


   "That reminds me of my first trip overseas on the Navy... :-)
Seriously. Some fshipmates went over at Brest, France and found a
pastry shop. Some of us went the next night. They had eclairs, and
other assorted pastries. Also, some drinks of orange pop, lime pop,
strawberry pop, and grape pop. { Can you tell what happened yet ? }
It cost about 90 cents a drink and about $1.50 for an eclair. Well,
we all had several drinks and several pastries. I had two of the grape
pops. When we started to leave, they guy who drank 7 grape pops,
couldn't stand ! We talked the waitress out of a bottle cap and took
it back to the one guy on ship who could speak fluent French. He told
us that wasn't grape juice in the bottle, but 28 percent by volume of
alchohol !
    We were drunk ! { 10 ounces each bottle. Got to run. }

   Later, " DJ.

* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "DJ." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Comp. Sci.
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "I'm tired out from a prolonged squawk !!" me
From: chuahl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Chua HakLien)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Fritz Leiber RIP
Date: 9 Sep 1992 14:05:28 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

C looks despondent, as he puts down his backpack. A single tear
flows from his compound eye.

"Fritz Leiber died two days ago. May he rest in peace."

C looks out of the window, and dreams of a robed figure with a million
eyes, and another without any, in some other place, in some other time.

C
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From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: der Mouse?  Anybody?  Help?
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 02:31:07 GMT

A figure of a mouse wavers into faint visibility in front of one of the
X windows.  It looks transparent, as if it were but a hologram, but
otherwise appears like an image of a long-absent patron...it speaks,
and unlike most holograms, its voice can actually be heard!

"Mentor, you are entirely correct, I am generally MIA here these days.
Most of my spare time is spent on HoloMUCK, rather than reading
netnews, y'see....

"Yes, I shut off the forwarding because of the flood of failure
messages that were landing in my mailbox.  I had no other way of
reaching you, and no indication that the dgil@... address would work
again in the forseeable future, so I was unable to do much else.

"I have now reinstated the gateway.  Welcome back."

The flickering image of light turns towards the Didi-Sprite.  "And my
thanks to you, good Sprite, for a most Spritely forwarding of Mentor's
remarks to me.  I was sad to see the mail failing, but had little I
could do but shut it off...."

der Mouse [for such it is] bows to all, and breaks up into static for
an instant before vanishing back into the virtuality known as Holo.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 1992 20:54:33 -0400 
From: Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Silent night

	Bear walks in Humming something quietly.  Then he slowly swithces over
to singing.

	Stillege Nacht, Heilige Nacht
	Alle ist Kalm Nachsam wacht.
	hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm
	hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm
	hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm h-m-m-m hmm hmm hmm hmm

	"Singing hymns, Bear?  In German?"
	"Humming mostly I can only rember the first couple of lines.  Silent
night.  It just seems quiet around her recently.  Anybody got an idea of
something to do for fun.  And any idea of when our favorite sprites comp
will recover?  I mean I heard it will be soon, but, oh vell."
	Bear walks over to the dart board and sharts throwing darts.  Most of
them hit the board.  "Well better than real life:)"  THen he takes a
look at the board again.  "not by much."
	"Well I won't increase this boards tremendous bandwitdh with any mroe
of this drivel, at least not for a ntoher couple of hours.  Later."

One day in the middle of the night...
Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ML5A@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
From: clubzen.fidonet.org!shakala!jake
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: re: Fritz Leiber RIP
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 13:32:51 PDT
Organization: Shakala - (Clan Zen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 1-408-734-2289

JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE) writes:

> 
>   "Da** ! Well, he also wrote 'The Change War' stories. Crap. I was
> hoping more of them and the Grey Mouser and Fafhrd Stories would
> reach us... Whew..." DJ.
> 
> <crash>
> 
> 
> * <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "DJ." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Comp. Sci.
> * USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
> * "I'm a computer operator and I'm Ok !" me.

Before Mr. Lieber's utimely demise, he and Tor books made arrangements 
for Robin Bailey to continue the adventures of Fafhrd and the Grey 
Mouser. So, there will be more works, from someone that Fritz approved 
of.

Not that he'll be able to match FL's warped sense of style, but something 
is better than nothing.

------------------------------------------------------------------
Jake McFarland - shakala!jake@clubzen.fidonet.org 
Shakala - (Clan Zen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 1-408-734-2289
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From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Libertarianism
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 02:26:06 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Sep12.220325.19713@cco.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>
>Well, it's pretty easy to tell when someone's using a judicial system.  It's
>also possible to charge for access to that system.  There are also costs
>associated with each individual trial.  So it looks to me like a judicial
>system fails the tests for a public good.  Perhaps Mentor could explain what it
>is that leads him to believe that a judicial system is a public good.

You appear to be making what I consider to be an unwarranted assumption:
that a judicial system benefits only its direct users.  Given the weight
that virtually all judicial systems place on precedence and continuity,
it seems clear that judicial decisions would change behavior generally
throughout a society.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

IRWTFM -- and that ain't fun
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From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: When packrats move . . .
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 15:52:56 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <9225716.2016@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> baillie@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Stephen Baillie) writes:
>
>Do you actually read all the books you have?  More than once?

As a matter of fact, yes.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

IRWTFM -- and that ain't fun
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:08:27 -0400 
From: Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: libertarianism
 @stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> <a9tn++=.aahz@netcom.com><kiran.716375575@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<SCOTTM.92Sep14100805@intime.intime.com>
Distribution: alt


>I'm not so sure that the 'public' cries out for more regulation, just those
>who are in "responsible" positions (and wanna-be's) who cry out for it. It
>definitely comes about from two attitudes. One is that people cannot be
>trusted to take care of themselves, as if we've not been able to do that for
>the last 25,000 or so years. The other is that we can create a Utopian
>universe. A case in point is obstetrics in Los Angeles County. According
>to UCLA, the reason why doctors are leaving obstetrics in LA is the number
>of liability and malpractice lawsuits. People actually believe that the
>reason why their baby is not perfect is that obstetrician botched the delivery
>and caused the imperfection. Not that it's not possible, but only in a very
>small number of cases. Another good example is when something good goes
>bad, especially if it's a chemical.

	I have an interesting idea of how to help keep the costs down for
things like this where there is rampant undeserved malpractice cases
causing soaring healthcare costs.  Imagine an insurance company coving
both malpractice and health care.  The payment for the malpractice
insurance could be cheaper prices for the patients of the insuraance
company.  There would be a large number of doctors under this plan so
there is still some choice for competence, and maybe make some
restrictions on who could get in.  The doctors are happy because they
don't have to deal with expensive malpractice insurance and the patients
get cheaper medical care.  And if there ever is a lawsuit, the insurance
company is the only one who is going to be paying out easing the law
fees and simplifying arbitration.

Intellectual Detrivore
Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ML5A@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
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From: uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Lydia Uribe)
Subject: Re: Callahan's avain population?
Organization: Claremont Shelter for Maladjusted Singers
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:37:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.002514.4290@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
(Daniel Briggs) writes:
>Dan'l discovers himself to have finally finished that beer he started a few
>months ago, and steps up to the chalk line.
>
>"To flight!"
>
>*crash*

Recognizing a face she hasn't seen in a very long time, Soprano grins
widely.  "Hey Dan'l, welcome back!"

					Soprano

"You're more than beginning -- you're learning to fly;
 You feel like you're falling, but it passes in time...."
			"From Me to You", Janis Ian
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| Soprano (Lydia M. Uribe)                      uribe@jarthur.claremont.edu |
| Claremont, CA                                  uribe@hmcvax.claremont.edu |
|           Cats, quilts and diving -- what more could anyone ask?          |
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From: dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood)
Subject: Re: Books Database
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:56:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.164431.12391@cco.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>
>Me, I've found a simple solution to the problem.  One of which I suspect Kitten
>would approve:  When the number of books I own gets to around 300 or so, I make
>a trip to one or more local libraries (the SF goes to the Caltech science
>fiction club library; everything else goes to the Pasadena public library),
>present them with LOTS of books, and let some librarian worry about cataloging
>them (or selling them in order to raise money to buy other books, as the case
>may be).

When I decided that getting paid for having fun just wasn't in my plausible
tree of career paths, I took most of my neep-neep books to a PenSFA party
and announced they were up for grabs.
That was in Spring '87.  I call it my Great Renunciation.

A year or two ago I sorted my books into three piles:  Shelves, Boxes and
Moe's (the big bookstore in Berkeley).  I think the trip to Moe's brought me
about $150 in store credit.

They've grown back.  And all my books are now in boxes in my new apartment.
When I move in (I can't stop sleeping here until I deliver the cat to a new
home -- which I'm not willing to do until I can take her to the vet for a
shot and a flea-bath), I solemnly resolve to Sort The Stuff again.

This time I think I'll catalog them (so I'll know how many I have) before
getting rid of any.

And I'll probably have a garage sale, as well as using the two sinks
mentioned above.

Anton
-- 
Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* +1 415 664 2229
Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district
Opinions mine, but available for lease at easy terms.
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Books Database
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:59:34 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture

In article <6wvnx5j.aahz@netcom.com>, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing
Machine) writes:
> Heh.  Just wait 'til you're tempted into putting all your book titles
> into a database.....
> -- 


<Ping!> Jason flickers in biefly next to MGDM. "We tried that once about
five years ago, and gave up on it as a lost cause. Not enough man-hours
available for data entry, and at the time not enough shelf space to get
them all out of boxes and organized in some fashion. Now it's even worse!
More books - less space!"

"Perhaps when we get into bigger accommodations?" he says wistfully. "I
could trade soemone good food and crash space for their data entry work,
and they would get to browse through a really ecclectic library. Perhaps
I'll try to set that up with someone after the next move. Gotta split!
Still have a system install and several orders for networking supplies to
fill." 

<Ping!> Jason vanishes again before Mike can ask him about Thyra's
bill.
From: brumby@nella11.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen McNamara)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: money money money or re: a square grand
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:49:06 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.


   The brumby wanders back in for a time, looking rather tired and dazed.
Sometime when he wasn't watching the expiry time on the alt groups has been
set to a couple of days so most of the articles he intended to reply to are
gone.

   "A square grand? I'd never heard that term before. Ahhh well. The first
thing I would do is get myself horses and a place to keep them. After that,
finish my education, and if there was anything left, who knows?"
   "What I would worry about is how would I change? Would I just accept
that I don't have any money worries for a while and keep going as I am, or
would I change in some way, and become the sort of person who somehow seems
to suit that amount of money? An aunt and uncle of mine own 40% of a$3.5
million marina, besides a hundred other things I don't know about, and I
really can't stand their lifestyle. So much of their lives seem to revolve
around keeping the money flowing back and forth, and I just can't see why
myself. Which is probably why I'll never have that kind of money. :-)"

   The brumby gazes into the fireplace, looking as though he's about to
doze off at any moment.


-- 
     The Silver Brumby of          brumby@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
      the Silicon Plains

      The grass is always greener on the other side of the network.
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From: yho@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Yue-shun E. Ho)
Subject: Re: Libertarianism (actually, Vitamins)
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:36:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.171422.14429@news.Hawaii.Edu> saiki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (L. Saiki) writes:
>
>Hey..which vitamin is the one where, if you take too much of it, your
>skin turns some orange tint?
>
>Spacey bubbles off...
>

Beta-carotene, even taken at low dosages (25,000 IU or under) may cause
  a yellowish (orange) pigmentation --- for people with hypothyroidism
  and some with diabetes.  This is because beta-carotene is a precursor
  substance which does not get converted to Vitamin A until it is inside
  the body.  People with hypothyroidism and/or diabetes may have difficulty
  in converting beta-carotene to Vitamin A efficiently, thus causing the
  pigmentation.  However, this pigmentation is not harmful in itself and
  will fade away when beta-carotene intake is stopped or reduced.

If you find yourself with a yellowish/orange pigmentation while taking
  beta-carotene but have not been diagnosed as having hypothyroidism or
  diabetes, it might be wise to check for these conditions.

Take care .....

yue-shun

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From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Stumpy visits Aus
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  9 Sep 92 01:14:41 GMT

>Danger Mouse clears up the situation. "No, it is I who bought the book. My
>guess is that Stumpy is quite able to buy the same thing back in NZ for
>less money quite easily."

Are you kidding?  Have you seen the state of the NZ economy lately?  It's the
one economy that actually makes the Oz one look like it's on the up :-)

Splash!
--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
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From: scottm@intime.intime.com (Scott Michel)
Subject: Re: libertarianism
Organization: /usr/scottm/.organization
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:08:05 GMT
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In article <kiran.716375575@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

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