From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
Subject: Re: Third party request
Keywords: decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz)
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:43:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.150754.29501@ncsu.edu> dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
#In article <Bu18BA.4oy.2@cs.cmu.edu> 
#garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
#
##dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
#
### The Pennsylvania Abortion Control Act also included a provision 
### which prohibited sex selection abortions, in addition to a  
### provision which prohibited certain post-viability abortions.  
### Is that law also constitutional, Ms. Garvin?  
#
## We weren't discussing constitutionality, were we?  We were 
## discussing whether or not the law was being enforced.  
#
#Sometimes the pro-abortion lawyers won't challenge an 
#unconstitutional abortion law if it's never been used 
#to prosecute anyone.

Do you enjoy looking stupid, Holtsinger?  None of the provisions
of the ACA had been used to prosecute anyone when PP v.
Casey was filed.

#And please do answer my question Ms. Garvin -- is the Pennsylvania
#law prohibiting sex selection abortions constitutional? 

Not in my opinion.  Of course, I am not empowered to make
decisions of constitutionality.

(See how easy it is to answer questions, Holtsinger?  Why
do you continually plead with people to do something that
you yourself are unwilling to do?  Why are you deleting
this paragraph?)

## I called the state attorney general's office and asked if it
## were currently illegal to violate those sections of the
## ACA.  They said "ye"  
#
#Did you ask them whether they would plan on filing charges 
#against a doctor who performed a sex selection abortion? 

No.  I didn't ask them.

#Have they ever prosecuted a doctor for performing a sex 
#selection abortion?  

No.

#And what was the name of the person you spoke to, and what's 
#their telephone number? 

I didn't note their name.  Do you really not have directory
assistance, or are you too simple minded to use it?

I called 412-565-7680.

### I hope that you and your pro-abortion buddies will be able to finally 
### understand that the mere existence of a law does not necessarily 
### imply that it's constitutional, or that it's being enforced.  
#
## I hope that you understnad that the mere fact that a law is
## unconstitutional does not prevent it from being enforced.
#
#If an unconstitutional law has never been used to prosecute 
#anyone, then sometimes it's not worth the trouble to challenge 
#it.  

Many laws are challenged before they have been used to
prosecute anyone.  (See, I can make vague, non-responsive
comments, too.)


#      "My logic is based on ... a religious perspective which says
# that personhood begins at birth (actually a month after birth if
# we want to be precise)..."
#   -- Gloria Feldt,
#      chief executive, Planned Parenthood of Central and Northern Arizona
#
#  "I see nothing extreme or reprehensible about this statement."
#    -- garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) <BtnDAw.Iwo.2@cs.cmu.edu#
      -- dking@nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)  <Insert header info here
      -- gjh@virginia.edu (Galen Hekhuis)
      -- chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) <Insert header info here
      -- cookc@rpi.edu (rocker)
      -- steven@jaynes.uswest.com (Steve Novak)
      -- smccabe@mn.ecn.purdue.edu (Sarah McCabe)
      -- lefty@apple.com (Lefty)
   "Neither do I" -- ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) <2ymn8gh.ray@netcom.com# 

What is it about Judaism that bothers you so, Holtsinger?

Susan





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