From: rodneycc@brt.deakin.edu.au (Rodney Dorbolo, CFA (User Access), Burwood, Vic., Aust.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Jim Steinman info.
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:00:42 GMT
Organization: C&CS, Deakin University

I have seen a few questions about Jim Steinman recently, so I thought
I would post a couple of bit of info on him. I myself are surprised
that he doesn't sing more on the albums he writes and produces.

o.h well here it is, all regards to Hans Noordam and Paul who
    wrote most if it, an up to date version is also available 
    at Dave Datta's ftp music site, sorry forgotten the address. 
    

JIM STEINMAN
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ALBUMS
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BAD FOR GOOD						    1981
   the storm (epilogue to the album bad for good)		4:26
   bad for good							8:44
   lost boys and golden girls					4:37   
   love and death and an american guitar			2:39
   stark raving love						7:21
   out of the frying pan (and into the fire)			6:09
   surf's up							5:22
   dance in my pants						7:54
   left in the dark						7:58
   rock and roll dreams come through (epilogue to the		6:28
      album bad for good)

The prologue and the epilogue are on a bonus 7" single. Dance In
My Pants is featuring Karla DeVito. The album is produced by
Jim Steinman and Jimmy Iovine. Todd Rundgren was also there.
Most of the songs were originally meant for Meat Loaf, who refused
to sing some of them because he had built a mental block against 
them. He didn't want to do Dance in my Pants, since he didn't 
want to do 'another Paradise'. He didn't like the title track 
either. But there were songs he loved: Surf's Up (Meat 
Loaf recorded this song himself in 1984) and Rock And Roll Dreams
Come Through. Steinman finally decided to do the vocals on the 
album himself, changing the title from Renegade Angel to Bad For 
Good. He had written several new songs he gave to Meat Loaf for
his Dead Ringer album. Bad For Good is, like Bat Out Of Hell, part
of the soundtrack of the Peter Pan movie (script by Jim Steinman)
that was never made. 


SINGLES
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LOST BOYS AND GOLDEN GIRLS				    1981
   lost boys and golden girls					   
   left in the dark						   

ROCK AND ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH (EPILOGUE TO..)	    1981
   rock and roll dreams come through (epilogue to..)		   
   love and death and an american guitar			   

DANCE IN MY PANTS					    1981
   dance in my pants						   
   storm (prologue to the album bad for good)		    

The 7" single Dance In My Pants is featuring the full-length 
version of the song.




MEAT LOAF
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ALBUMS
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BAT OUT OF HELL						    1977
   bat out of hell						9:48
   you took the words right out of my mouth			5:04
   heaven can wait						4:38
   all revved up with no place to go				4:19
   two out of three ain't bad					5:23
   paradise by the dashboardlight				8:28
   for crying out loud						8:45

Steinman wrote the songs and was involved in the recording, 
mixing and sleeve design. He also played keyboards. Some of the
songs were meant to be part of the soundtrack to the Peter Pan film
that was never made. 


DEAD RINGER						    1981
   peel out							6:30
   i'm gonna love her for both of us				7:09
   more than you deserve					6:56
   i'll kill you if you don't come back				4:24
   read 'em and weep						5:25
   nocturnal pleasure						0:38
   dead ringer for love						4:21
   everything is permitted					4:41

Steinman wrote all the songs but didn't want to produce the album.
He co-produced 2 of them together with Jimmy Iovine: Dead Ringer 
For Love Read 'Em And Weep. Meat Loaf did a good job producing the 
rest of the album together with Stephan Galfas. Shortly after the
release of the album Meat Loaf and Steinman were at war and
Karla DeVito told the press that it was 'unlikely' that they 
would ever cooperate again. 


BAD ATTITUDE						    1984
   bad attitude							4:44
   modern girl							4:24
   nowhere fast							5:12
   surf's up							4:23
   piece of the action						4:15
   jumpin' the gun						3:12
   cheatin' in your dreams					4:08
   don't leave your mark on me					4:07
   sailor to a siren						4:41

Steinman wrote the songs Nowhere Fast and Surf's Up. The Nowhere
Fast lyrics are different from the Streets of Fire Soundtrack 
version. The Surf's Up lyrics are identical to the Bad For Good
version.
Steinman was not involved in the production of the album, that was 
recorded in England, produced by Meat Loaf, Paul Jacobs and Mack. 


LIVE AT WEMBLEY						    1987
   blind before i stop (live)					3:36   
   rock 'n' roll mercenaries (live)				5:31
   you took the words right out of my mouth (live)		6:51   
   midnight at the lost and found (live)			3:47   
   modern girl (live)						5:49   
   paradise by the dashboardlight (live)			9:48   
   two out of three ain't bad (live)				8:14   
   bat out of hell (live)				       10:29	
   masculine (live)						6:52   
   rock 'n' roll medley (live)					8:15   

Live album by Meat Loaf, featuring Steinman songs from Bat Out Of
Hell and Dead Ringer. 



BONNIE TYLER
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ALBUMS
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FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF NIGHT				    1983
   have you ever seen the rain					   
   faster than the speed of night				   
   getting so exited						   
   total eclipse of the heart					   
   it's a jungle out there					   
   goin' through the motions					   
   tears							   
   take me back							   
   straight from the heart					   

Album produced and by Jim Steinman, who wrote only two of the
songs: Faster Than The Speed Of night and Total Eclipse
Of The Heart. Total Eclipse reached number 1 in both the USA
and England, to the surprise of Steinman, who hadn't expected
the song to work out as a single. 


SECRET DREAMS AND FORBIDDEN FIRE			    1986
   ravishing							   
   if you were a woman (and i was a man)			   
   loving you's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do..		   
   no way to treat a lady					   
   band of gold							   
   rebel without a clue						   
   lovers again							   
   before this night is through [not on album, only on compact disc]
   holding out for a hero					   

Produced by Jim Steinman, who needed (or took) a long time and
a very large amount of money to produce it. Songs written by Steinman:
Ravishing; Loving You's A dirty Job (But Somebody's Gotta Do It);
Rebel Without A Clue and holding Out For A Hero. The album did very
bad on the charts and the cooperation between Steinman and Tyler was
finished.  


AIR SUPPLY							 
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SINGLES


MAKING LOVE (OUT OF NOTHING AT ALL)			    1983
   making love (out of nothing at all)				   
   late again (recorded live)					   

Making Love was produced and written by Jim Steinman. The song 
reached number 2 on the billboard chart. At the same time 
another Steinman production, Total Eclipse Of The Heart by
Bonnie Tyler topped that chart. Making Love is also to be found 
on Air Supply Greatest Hits II, available on CD. 


As promised here is the info on Jim Steinman's Bad For Good CDs available in
Australia.

Both version I have are on the CBS Epic label and both are priced at $A12.99.
Both have the same disk number: 465043 2.

Around the hub, however, the version with the extra tracks is labeled #03 in
addition to the disk number, whereas the incomplete version is labeled #02.

The track listings follow:

465043 2 #02:-

1. Bad For Good
2. Lost Boys and Golden Girls
3. Love and Death and An American Guitar
4. Stark Raving Love
5. Out of the Frying Pan (and Into the Fire)
6. Surf's Up
7. Dance in My Pants
8. Spoken Introduction / Left In the Dark / Spoken Ending

465043 2 #03:-

1. The Storm (Prologue to the Album "Bad For Good")
2. Bad For Good
3. Dance In My Pants
4. Love and Death and An American Guitar
5. Stark Raving Love
6. Out of the Frying Pan (and Into the Fire)
7. Lost Boys and Golden Girls
8. Surf's Up
9. Spoken Introduction / Left in the Dark / Spoken Ending
10. Rock and Roll Dreams Come Through

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