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From: stergios@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stergios)
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz Tri - Something Different
Reply-To: stergios@kt22.Stanford.EDU
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
	<92Oct07.214552.12890@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:43:10


spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Shane P Esau) writes:
   stergios@kt22.Stanford.EDU writes:
   >
     Marinopoulos remained
   >seated hammering away as he flew past riders standing up on their
   >peddals who could only watch Marinpoulos bridge from group to group.
   >

   Stergios  - are you implying here that you were drafting and
   bridging from group to group like the pro-cyclists do?  Just
   Wondering

   Shane


Nope.  Just bridging from group to group like the pros do.  I was
passing all the people who were drafting like the pros do. 8-) 8-) 8-)

sm
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From: richd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rich Davis)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:09:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Hawaiian Ironman; it's almost time...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon

In rec.sport.triathlon, jrb@Ingres.COM (John Black) writes:

> What are your predictions for the Ironman?  Will it be another Allen and
> Newby-Fraser year?
>>-> On the Mens side:
     This could be another two man dual to the end, much like the
     Dave Scott/Mark Allen finishes 3&4 years ago. Only this time 
     it will be reigning champ Allen, fighting off  heir-apparent
     Austrailian born (now living and training in the states with
     all his triathlon mates)  Greg Welch.  I think this is going
     to be one of those memorable finishes.  
     
     Hope Scott Tinley finishes well, and Chuck Velyupek "Chuckie
     V" doesn't blow up at mile 20 like he did last year.  If you
     remember the camera  shot of Paula N-F running past the  guy 
     with long blonde hair and gaunt face hiding behind the Oakly 
     blades, on her way to her winning finish, that was Chuck not
     having fun.

     On the Womens side:
     I haven't a clue.  Just make sure you cheer for Mary Kehl.
> 
> Also, does anyone know when it's scheduled to be aired?
>>-> November 21, NBC will present a 2 hour show beginning at
     4p.m. EST.  So mark your calenders.

-RC
> 
> john//
From: arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rolf Arands)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:53:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Shane P Esau) writes:

>In article <1992Oct15.150127.16146@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> tjensen@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (todd.r.jensen) writes:
>>
>>Wheel covers are legal on the bike and they provide nothing but aerodynamic
>>benefits, so why the big fuss over wetsuits?  And while I'm at it, let's
>>make drafting illegal on the swim too! 8^)  And then let's enforce it!
>>
>I agree - let's make the swim an individual event as well - there
>are many people out there who benefit a great deal by being able
>to draft - why is drafting allowed in swimming, but not in the
>bike?  I am really interested in an answer to this.

>Shane


I see a war coming on.  First, imagine trying to enforce drafting in a swim 
pack of 100 to whatever number triathletes.  Unless I am mistaken, I do not 
think this is at all practical.

Now, I know obviously swim drafting helps a slower swimmer more than a faster
swimmer.  But, run drafting can also help a slower runner or even a fast
runner.  Yet there seems to be no objection here.  In the NYC Marathon,
I would expect run drafting to occur.  I think a recent issue of some tri-rag 
or Runners World talked about this and how to use it effectively.

I guess addressing the entire drafting issue depends upon how 
**individual** one wishes to make the triathlon.  

I say leave swim and run drafting as is and don't try to complicate it
anymore than trying to resolve bike drafting.  It just seems that we are
getting a bit carried away with this anymore.  Train in the sport given the
rules and make the best of it.  After all, it is all for fun anyway,
right?

Rolf Arands

arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: loreen@raider.SanDiego.NCR.com (Loreen Prinz)
Subject: swimsuits to run in
Reply-To: Loreen.Prinz@SanDiego.NCR.com
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:22:24 GMT

I have a question for all you female triathletes.

I was out shopping for a swimsuit today, with my main goal being it had to
be supportive enough to run in.  I must have tried on fifty suits and
narrowed it down to either a Speedo one-piece or a lycra bra-top and Speedo
bottoms.  The one-piece seemed to support me better, but I am worried about
being too hot in the bike and run.  The bra-top/suit-bottoms were much
cooler, but because they weren't a set, looked kind of funny.  What to you 
all swim-bike-run in? and how do you like it?

Thanks,
Loreen

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From: mvm@caesun6.epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney)
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:12:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: mvm@epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney)
Organization: Engineering Productivity Group, Harris Corp., Melbourne, FL

mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:

>I propose a total wetsuit ban!!!!

I propose a ban on aero-bars, clipless pedals, and composite materials.
Fenders and kickstands should be required.  This will eliminate
the unfair advantage for those with expensive bikes.

I propose a ban on running shoes.  Lets see how tough you really are!

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From: Oliver.F.Medzihradsky@dartmouth.edu (Oliver F. Medzihradsky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: when will Hawaiian Ironman be on TV?
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:51:50 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, but could anyone out there let me know when
and on what channel the Hawaiian Ironman is going to be televised?  To
be honest, I don't even know on what day it's taking place, but I'd
love to watch....
Thanks very much in advance for the info (post or e-mail is fine),

Oliver Medzihradsky
Oliver.Medzihradsky@dartmouth.edu
From: lwm3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (LANCE WILLIAM MUZSLAY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:49:04 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Here is the current proposal being  spearheaded by some of the TriFed board
>on NEW WETSUIT RULES:
>
>Wetsuits will be allowed in all TriFed races where the water temperature is
>below 78 degrees F.
>
>NOTE:  The proposal is for this to be a *rule* not a *guideline*.
>
>What do you think?
>
>-- LSC
>
I think that 78F is too high.  Personally 72F would be fine for me but I could
accept 75F for other people such as the older competitors who are more
susceptible to hypothermia.  I am actually quite sensitive to cold water but
I think everyone would agree that 78F water is more than warm enough to swim
in.  I would think that swimming with a wetsuit in water above 75F could
almost be dangerously hot.
From: roat@rrc.chevron.com (Suzanne Roat,Chevron,(510)242-5313)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Hawaii Ironman Results
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:04:05 GMT
Reply-To: roat@rrc.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, Richmond, California

>In article <2593@cronos.metaphor.com> walker@mishi.metaphor.com (John Walker) writes:
>>Bustos (who has a 2:30 marathon to his credit) gained a 37 second lead
>>    at the beginning of the run. By mile 14, he and Mark Allen were tied. 
>>    Mark Allen made the decisive move around mile 16.
>
>Apparently the move was pretty decisive:  gaining 7:30 in 10 miles.  Of
>course, remember Mark Allen has a 2:36 (I think) marathon in the Ironman, 
>so he can hump it when he needs to.
>
>Floyd Goodrich
>floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com


Fastest ever was 2:40 flat in '89 when he and Dave Scott ran step-for-step
the entire marathon until the last little hill at 22 miles.  Allen
surged and Scott couldn't respond.  Scott ended up doing a 2:41+ marathon and
lost by less than 2 minutes.  What a race it was!  All the hype leading up
to the race kept quoting both Allen and Scott who both said it would take a
2:40 marathon to win the Ironman that year.  It was so exciting to watch that
prognostication come true.

It sounds like the conditions this year were somewhat similar to 1989 - not
extremely hot the whole day.  The weather is such a factor in this race.  How
about the wind?  In 1989, it was relatively "calm" - by Kona standards anyway.

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From: chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:56:15 GMT
Subject: Re: LONG Distance Running Questions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon

> In just 4 short weeks I will be participating in my first marathon (NYC, 
> 11/1).  Not bad, considering 6 months ago I had trouble getting up to
> walk to the next room.  

Awesome.

> My question:  
> 
> I have found that my skin has been getting irritated, most notably under
> the arms.  The other "common" areas of irritation I have found solutions 
> for, but the arms still plague me.  After my 20 mile run yesterday, I had
> two glowing red patches under each arm with the pain to match.  
> 
> How do I minimize or avoid this in the marathon?  Any and all clues
> I would appreciate very much.  


Hmmmmm.  Being of the "stump legged" variety I know much of chaffing in the
thigh area.  I used to use  vaseline but I now use a product I found in the
Road Runner  Sports  catalog  called  "Chafe  Eez".  It lasts  longer  than
vaseline and smells better.

I kinda assume from your post that you've already tried this.

Is the irritation in your arm pits or is it between your arms & chest?

My solution  for  arm/chest  irritation  is either a  lubricant  or a shirt
(instead of a singlet or nothing).

If the  problem  is arm pits then I haven't  a clue what to do.  In fact, I
haven't a clue how it would even happen!

-- LSC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: praetzel@marconi.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: Re: Quintana Roo Bikes
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:26:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.144606.22066@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> panczyk@furnace.ecn.purdue.edu (Christopher Panczyk) writes:
>That leaves you with $1000 for components.  These bikes have been tested to
>be stiffer that Kestral, but not as light because they used True Temper Steel
>as opposed to composite materials.  But, the frames are guarranteed for life,
  This "stiffness" has little if anything to do with efficiency and although
it is measurable it is highly doubtfull that a rider could notice it.  The
differences between a "soft" frame like the Vitus and a "hard, harsh" C'dale
is very small.  Check the bicycling FAQ for test data.

>and since they won't crack or come unglued like Kestral have been know to, I
  Or crush like steel frames.  Get real.  All frames can break.

>think they are worth the difference in weight (about 1 water bottle).  And,
>the price is much better.

  Get a real frame like the new Trek 5200 ($1999 with Ultegra STI) which is
slightly lighter than the Kestrel EMS and a heck of a lot cheaper. It is also
lighter because of a better quality stem, seatpost.
  If you want something very light and cheap then get a Cannondale.  I would
suggest at least 105 and preferable Ultegra parts.  I hate Campy with a
vengance because of my experience with their stuff and their design philosphy.
As for steel frames.  If you believe that you need a custom frame then steel
is a good material to use.  However, no literature has convinced me that an
off the rack frame that is properly setup with seatpost, stem, bars is any
different from a "custom" frame.  Currently bikes are still awash with lore
and mystique and many people will lead you astray.  However, if you fall for
that stuff that sort of thinking can be self deluding and reinforcing.  In
fact 99% of the performance comes from the machine (your legs, lungs) and
a fraction of whats left is due to the bike.  If you are very fast aerodynamics
matters and in that case I would recommend a Kestrel or Hooker bike.  However,
most of the differences between people can easily be explained by their
parents.
  - Eric 

From: chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:55:49 GMT
Subject: NCC/TriFed/Wetsuits
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon

Just sent this letter to Triathlon Times:





The Triathlon  Federation/USA Safety & Rules committee would like to remind
everyone  that  TriFed's  current  stand on wetsuits is that their use in a
race is solely at the  discretion  of the race  director.  TriFed  provides
only "guidelines" with respect to distance,  temperature, and a process for
temperature measurement.

This issue was in the  forefront  for many years.  TriFed's  current  stand
went into effect two seasons  ago.  Believe me when I tell you that  TriFed
looked at this issue from many angles (safety, fairness, enforcement etc.).
The last  decision  TriFed had to make was  whether  or not we should  have
wetsuit  "rules"  or  "guidelines".  It was  the  voice  of  numerous  race
directors  that pushed us towards  "guidelines"  rather  than  "rules".  In
short, we heard a common theme from race  directors:  "If an athlete drowns
in my race because wetsuits are not allowed I could be in big trouble."

My PERSONAL hope is that race directors all over the country learn a lesson
from  what  occurred  at NCC this year and take a more  active  role in the
wetsuit  decision.  TriFed will look into the new research  with respect to
our temperature and distance guidelines.


					      Larry Chapman
					      TriFed/USA
					      Safety & Rules Committee
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From: jpringle@den.mmc.com (James E. Pringle)
Subject: Quintana Roo Bikes
Originator: jpringle@everest
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:04:26 GMT


Hey Ern*Man,

I just read your posting about selling your Roo.  I think it
would be to small for me, but I do have a couple of questions
about the Roo bikes:

	1.  Why are you selling it?
	2.  What did you think of the bike?
	3.  What components does it have?
	4.  I am assuming you got it mail order.  How well did
	it fit and did it meet your expectations?

I've just gotten into Tri's in the last two years and feel that it
is time to upgrade from my Miyata 112 (touring bike tricked out for Tri's)
I have a brochure from Quintana Roo, but I don't know anyone who has one.
I am going to need about a 63cm frame so yours would be too small for me,
but I would be interested in your opinions or any other bike recommendations.
I plan to shop over the next couple of months, and buy sometime next Feb or
Mar.

Thanks in advance.

		
I am also interested in hearing from anyone else who has a bike
that they would love to rave about.  But please keep it limited
to bikes that are under $2000 complete.

Thanks to all!

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From: ggg@rho.megatek.com (Gary G. Godwin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Greg Welch's finish?
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:12:49 GMT
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California


Does anyone know where Greg Welch finished in the Gatorade Ironman
in Hawaii?  All I saw was the top 5 finishers.

Thanks,
Gary Godwin
From: chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:59:51 GMT
Subject: Paula's bike at Ironman?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon


Just heard about the Allen/Newby-Fraser victories at Kona.

Did anyone get to watch the race?  In particular  I'd like to know if Paula
Newby-Fraser used a "fairing" type of device on her aerobars.

She called TriFed Safety & Rules before the race to ask if it was legal and
was given a resounding "no".  However, since Ironman is not "officially" a
TriFed  sancitoned  race she was only  bound by her own  ethics  not to use
them.

-- LSC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Shane P Esau)
Subject: Re: Hawaiian Ironman; it's almost time...
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 04:20:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: Ironman Hawaii, Greg Welch, Erin Baker

In article <1992Oct5.231315.10067@pony.Ingres.COM> jrb@Ingres.COM (John Black) writes:
>What are your predictions for the Ironman?  Will it be another Allen and
>Newby-Fraser year?
>
I predict that Welchie will take the BIG ONE this year, and if
Baker races, she will push Newbie so hard that Newbie cracks.

Shane
From: panczyk@furnace.ecn.purdue.edu (Christopher Panczyk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Quintana Roo Bikes
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:46:06 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Oct9.190426.3220@den.mmc.com> jpringle@den.mmc.com (James E. Pringle) writes:
>		
>I am also interested in hearing from anyone else who has a bike
>that they would love to rave about.  But please keep it limited
>to bikes that are under $2000 complete.
>
>Thanks to all!
>
I don't know how close you are to the Chicago-land area, but there is a
great bike shop called Cyclery North.  Custom made frames for around $1000.
That leaves you with $1000 for components.  These bikes have been tested to
be stiffer that Kestral, but not as light because they used True Temper Steel
as opposed to composite materials.  But, the frames are guarranteed for life,
and since they won't crack or come unglued like Kestral have been know to, I
think they are worth the difference in weight (about 1 water bottle).  And,
the price is much better.

Christopher Panczyk                            o   _____ ___
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From: ang@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (wayne.p.langan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: PC Based training log
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:52:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsi.1992Oct14.135209.9749
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I'm thinking of buying training log software as a gift for by brother.
He has a 386dx machine running windows 3.0. Can anyone offer their
good/bad experiences with this type of tool. For instance which ones
are worth buying and which ones are worth staying away from. I can get 
info on the features from the dealers. Also if anyone has info about
Sun based training logs that would also be helpful. Thanks in advance
for your help.

-- 
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From: villan@ntmtv.UUCP (Ernie Villanueva)
Subject: Quintana Roo For Sale 
Keywords: Quintana Roo 
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:34:25 GMT

TRIATHLETES,
QUINTANA ROO FRAMESET FOR SALE
53 CM FRAME
MADE IN USA
WILL FIT PERSONS WHO CURRENTLY RIDE 56CM,55CM,OR 54CM FRAMES
EXCELLENT CONDITION
FRAME INCLUDES:
WATER BOTTLE CAGES
HEAD SET
BOTTOM BRACKET
PUMP

ASKING $600.00 OR BEST OFFER-FRAMESET ONLY
SO IF ANY OF YOU FELLOW TRIATHLETES KNOW OF SOMEONE IN THE MARKET FOR A GREAT TRI FRAME. GET A HOLD OF ME.  GOING BACK TO COLLEGE AND PUTTING TRI'S ON THE BACKBURNER FOR A WHILE.  NEED THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR COLLEGE FEES ETC.
THANKS GUYS!
ERN*MAN

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From: harv@cis.ksu.edu (Harvard Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: College Triathlon Club
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:10:52 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

luebke5317@iscsvax.uni.edu (Phil Luebke) writes:

>I would like to start a triathlon club here at the University of Northern Iowa.
>I really don't know what the functions of such a club would be.  My main
>interest is getting triathletes together to share knowledge and experience and
>possibly find training partners.  If there are any members of college clubs out
>there, could you send me your input (via e-mail please).  Any hints, problems
>encountered, etc. would be appreciated.  

We've had a triathlon club here at Kansas State University for about
three years now (KSU Wildcat Triathlon Club, or WTC). Two student
triathletes took the initiative to start it. We are an officially
recognized student orgranization, receiving funds annually from the
student governing association.  I believe the only requirements were
electing officers and having a faculty sponsor.  We also have a $10
annual membership fee. I feel it has been beneficial in promoting the
sport(s) at the University and in the community. 

We meet once a month through the school year. Here are some of the
things we've done in meetings:
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From: awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh)
Subject: What happened to WWF?
Reply-To: awalsh@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:10:18 GMT

The past week has seen some completely unpredictable turns of events.
I'm trying to figure out McMoney's motives for it, but I can't get it.
1) Hart with the title. I can't believe Vince wants Hart to stay so 
badly that he's willing to give him the WORLD TITLE to keep him in the
wiff. Even as interim champ, it doesn't make sense. I think that it's
only temporary and Flair will quickly regain it. I HOPE. Backlund 
can't possibly be in good enough shape to wrestle, he's gotta be 60 or
more. We thought Hogan was old. If it's all to give HIM the title,
it would surprise me. He's not marketable. At ALL. Marks won't buy him.

2) Disasters drop the belts. Tag situation is getting REALLY desperate.
With the exit of the disasters, that leaves Money Inc, The Beverly
Sisters, High Energy, and this new team, the headhunters. Oh, and the
Nasty Boys. That's 4 to 1, heels against faces.  Not pretty odds.

3) Survivor Series. Where's the matches? There's no one interesting
left for the four on four matches. It'll be just like watching
the first hour from the first few. BOOOOOOORINGGG. I'll be more than
happy to hear about this card second hand.

4) WM IX. I hope Flair regains the belt soon to keep a setup for
Flair/Hogan - The Last Great Match. Warrior? He can get the IC belt
back for something to do. Savage? Happy Retirement. Ramon? SHEEEEYA
Right. As if he'll be around. Does the name Sid ring a bell?

5) The Future. Vince leaves the WWF. Ratings are dead, house shows are
dead, PPV is not what was expected. Maybe the anticipated/dreaded
merger will happen, with Watts/Turner getting the better half. Vince
won't stay on a sinking ship. Maybe he'll retire. Maybe he'll die.

We can only hope. :-)

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