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From: steven@cray.com (Steven Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Help with Hard Times
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:48:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: hemlock.1992Apr8.094819.683
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <1992Apr8.102416.9938@morrow.stanford.edu>
 GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan) writes:

>Here is the words to Hard Times as related to me by my brother.
>Please correct phrases that he derived from a muddy recording.
>Please add a verse if there is another.
>
>Hard Times
>Stephen Foster

This is from memory, but I'm pretty certain it's close
to the original:

>
***This is the second verse:
>while we seek mirth and beauty
>and music bright and gay
>there are frail forms praying at the door
***                    fainting
>tho their voices are silent
>their pleading looks will say
***                   all?
>Hard Times  come again no more
>
>chorus:
>there's a song, a sigh of the weary
***'Tis the song, the sigh...
>hard time hard times  come again no more
>many days you have lingered around my cabin door
>hard times come again no more
>
***This is the first verse:
>let us pause in life's pleasures
>and count it's many tears
>while we all sup sorrow with the poor
>there is a song that will linger forever in our ears
>oh hard times come again no more
>
***There are two more verses:

There's a pale drooping maiden who toils her life away
With a worn heart whose better days are o'er
Though her voice would be merry, 'tis sighing all the day
Oh, hard times come again no more

'Tis a sigh that is wafted across the troubled wave
'Tis a wail that is heard upon the shore
`Tis a dirge that is murmured around the lowly grave
Oh, hard times come again no more

--We in my circle think of that second line as "'tis a whale that
  is heard upon the shore."  Someone once sang "There's pale drooping
  member..." which has spoilt that verse for me.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc
From: elr@uunet.uu.net!trintex (Unix Guru-in-Training)
Subject: Re: Tom Lehrer (was: ?? Tom Leher ??)
Organization: Prodigy Services Co.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:45:55 GMT

In article <23561@scorn.sco.COM> stewarte@sco.COM
(nibbled to death by an okapi) writes:
>>I only know of two songs he wrote for "Electric Company", "Silent E"
>>and "L-Y" (as in the adverb ending).

Didn't he also do one for "Electric Company" about the subway?  I saw it
on TV once, and this part stuck in my head:

Suuuubway!
If you're in a hurry, take the express
It will go right by your local address.
It's the Suuuuuubway!
-- 
Ed Ravin- elr@trintex.uucp| I like to think (and the sooner the better!)
       philabs!trintex!elr| Of a cybernetic meadow where mammals and computers
           +1-914-993-4737| Live together in mutually programming harmony
my opinions, nobody else's| Like pure water touching clear sky.  -R. Brautigan
From: lburns@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Lisa Burns)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:42:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Need lyrics to 'Getting to know you' - King and I
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk

/ hpcupt3:rec.music.folk / ccechk@nuscc.nus.sg (Heng Kek) /  8:01 pm  Mar 31, 1992 /
Does anyone have the lyrics to 'Getting To Know You' from the
musical 'THE KING AND I'?  Please mail directly to me if you do.
Very many thanks. :)

Kek
National University of Singapore
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From: thughes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Toby . Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Songs About Taxes
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:35:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


Billy Edd Wheeler has a song named 'After Taxes' on a Kapp album, "Ode
to the Little Brown Shack Out Back."  It says all that needs be said
about the impact of taxes on the working man.

"I feel so good
Come payday,
I think about all the things I'm gonna buy my girl
When I collect my weekly pay.

But then they hand me that little brown envelope.
I look inside and Lord, I lose all hope,
Cause from those total wages earned
Down to that net amount that's due
I feel a painful sense of loss between the two.

(Chorus)

Federal tax! (There goes that bracelet for her arm.)
County tax! (There goes that new fence for my farm.)
State Income tax! (There goes that brand new Pontiac.)
Withholding tax! (There goes the shirt right off my back.)

You can dream of T-bone steak and champagne too,
You can dream, but that's about all that you can do.
Cause by the time your old Uncle Sam gets through
You can buy your honey a pair of hose,
A little powder for her nose,
And take her down to Sloppy Joe's for beer and stew.

Them are the facts,
After tax. "

There is more, but you need to hear it. It priceless among BEW's efforts.
Wheeler, for those who are not familiar with the name, is the author of
several songs recorded by the Kingston Trio, "Reverend Mr. Black," Coal
Tattoo," "Jackson," (also recorded by J.Cash and J.Carter) "Desert Pete,",
"Anne," and  "Sister Sara,"  all of which are on this same album.

Or did you ask about 'Songs About Texas?'

TH
From: voyager@treff.zer.de (Roland Gorisch)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: L.Ronstad & A.Neville
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 92 20:28:56 GMT

Hi Folks,

I would like to know if Linda Ronstad and Aaron Neville ever did an Album
together. I have come across two very impressive singles ('Don't know much'
and another one...I haveforgotten the title)

The combination of two marvellous voices should be worth a Cd. Is
there anything availabe?


Thanks,

Roland


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From: clifford@coos.dartmouth.edu (Larry A. Clifford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: REQUEST: CLANNAD + ALTAN
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:19:50 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <kdsvLKW00Uh7Q=9_Jl@andrew.cmu.edu> rr3b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rebecca Roolf) writes:
>On 08-Apr-92 in REQUEST: CLANNAD + ALTAN     
>user Roland Gorisch@treff.zer writes:
>>does anyone in this area have a complete listing of all albums/cds Clannad
>>made until now? I am also interested in Altan, what are their most popular
>>albums?
>
>Altan so far has 4 albums out:
>
>Altan (before the official name of the group: then it was just the name
>of the   
>   album)
>Horse with a Heart (my personal favorite, with a nice blend of soaring Gaelic 
>  songs, foot-tapping Gaelic songs, and instrumental reels/highlands/jigs/etc.)
>The Red Crow 
>Harvest Storm
>
>I would most highly recommend Horse with a Heart, and either the Red
>Crow or Harvest Storm. ....


Well, for what it's worth, my own tastes incline to the 1st album and
to Harvest Storm, which I just got a few days ago.  All 4 albums are
excellent, among the best Celtic folk around, but I feel that the
1st is uniquely serene and luminous (if you'll pardon a bit of
romantic pseudo-description), and that the latest album recaptures
some of that feeling.

Larry

 
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: erich@wubios.wustl.edu (Erich Schraer)
Subject: Re: Songs about taxes
Organization: Division of Biostatistics, WUMS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:24:14 GMT

In article <92101.152430GD9@psuvm.psu.edu> GD9@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>I am doing a Folk Music Show on Wed. April 15th and would like to
>know if you know of any songs about taxes or paying taxes or not
>paying taxes.  I would like the name of the singer and the album it
>is on, if possible.  Thanks!        Carol

The Tannahill Weavers do a rendition of Robert Burns' song "The
Deil's Awa' Wi' th' Exciseman" (translation from Scots:  "The
Devil's Away with the Taxman") on their 2nd album "The Old Woman's
Dance".  There are probably other recorded versions as well, though
I can't remember hearing any.

The words are as follows (from memory):

    The Deil's Awa' Wi' th' Exciseman

	     by Robert Burns

The Deil cam' fiddlin' through the toun
And he's danced awa' wi' th' exciseman,
And ilka wife cries, "Auld Mahoun,
And I wish ye luck wi' the prize, man!"

Chorus: The Deil's awa', the Deil's awa',
	The Deil's awa' wi' th' exciseman.
	He's danced awa', he's danced awa',
	He's danced awa' wi' th' exciseman.

We'll mak' our maut and we'll brew our drink,
We'll dance and sing and rejoice, man,
And many braw thanks to the mickle black Deil
Wha's danced awa' wi' th' exciseman.

Chorus

There's threesome reels and there's foursome reels,
There's hornpipes and strathspeys, man,
But ay the best dance ever come to the land
Was the Deil's awa' wi' th' exciseman.

Chorus

				--Erich Schraer
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Re: Loreena McKennitt
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:21:45 GMT

Loreena's album (THe Visit that is) should be released in the States
any week now. Warner Bros. has picked the album up for worldwide
distribution. She'll be touring the U.S. in a month or two if all
goes well. The folks at Warner U.S. have *really* high hopes
for the Visit.

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
From: Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Loreena McKennitt
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:25:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11458
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Many thanks to everyone for the information on Loreena McKennitt! Now we can
sit back and watch her conquer the Americans...
From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (aldridge andrea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Touring Schedule for Lewis, Pint & Dale (correction)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:53:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Apr13.215323.26598
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <1992Apr11.173625.1212@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:

>	Sorry, slight correction here.  First, the organization is
>officially "the Folklore Society of Greater Washington", but more important
>is that the proper phone number to call is
>	(703) 281-2228,
>which is the FSGW hotline, and has a listing of the events upcoming in the
>next week.  It is usually updated late Sunday evening (after the sunday
>dance has started).
>	The number you have listed is the home phone number of the person
>who arranges one of our series of concerts (including this one), and is NOT
>a general information number.

My apologies on that.  I just typed it up as Tom gave it to me.  If anyone is
interested (and you darn well ought to be!), I have their U.K. schedule for
the rest of the summer as well...without phone numbers.


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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Postcrypt Coffeehouse Schedule
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:10:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.231213.15665@ctr.columbia.edu> stevens@greece.ctr.columbia.edu (Andy Stevens) writes:

   The Postcrypt Coffeehouse features live acoustic music.  Admission is
   always free.  

   The Postcrypt is located in the basement of St. Paul's Chapel on the
   campus of Columbia University, New York, NY.  To get there, go to the
   main entrance of Columbia at 116th St. and Broadway, and ask for
   directions to St. Paul's Chapel.  Columbia is located at the 116th St.
   stop on the 1 or 9 trains.  For more info, email to:
   stevens@greece.ctr.columbia.edu

   Friday, April 17:
	   Poets and Storytellers from Columbia perform their work.
	   Marc Berger
   Saturday, April 18:
	   Ruthie Foster
	   Kat Egglston
	   Andrew Calhoun
	   Andrew Vladeck
Well, Eggleston's missing an e, but she's worth hearing, nonetheless.
A point of interest to those of you who are the right age:  Kat's parents
were the art director and the voice of Gumby - she does a good imitation
of her mother doing Gumby's voice.  Also a fine singer and songwriter.
And Andrew is probably the best poet writing songs in the folk/acoustic
genre.  And if you're reading this in the Hartford area, they'll be
at Reader's Feast a few days later (according to a letter from Andrew,
it's Saturday the 25th, according to the FAN Almanac it's Tuesday the 21st
- better check with Reader's Feast at 203-232-3710).  If you're in SE
Mass or RI, come to see them at UMass Dartmouth on Thursday the 23rd.
E-mail me for more details.
   Friday, April 24:
	   Ilene Weiss
	   Big Dream
	   Dorothy Scott
   Saturday, April 25:
	   Jesse Harris
	   Raymond Gonzalez & Amy Malkoff
	   Erica Wheeler
Malkoff and Gonzalez are worth hearing - Ray is a guitarist and composer
with conservatory training.  I gather that he writes the songs and Amy
arranges her harmony vocals.  And Wheeler has some really nicely written
songs and a good stage presence.

Nothing to add about the others - I haven't heard them yet.
   Finis!! Closed for summer, see you next fall.

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Songs about taxes
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:22:30 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

GD9@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>    I am doing a Folk Music Show on Wed. April 15th and would like to
>    know if you know of any songs about taxes or paying taxes or not
>    paying taxes.  I would like the name of the singer and the album it
>    is on, if possible.  Thanks!        Carol

There's a recent one from the UK that I've heard sung by whole crowds.
I doubt if you'll find a record of it, but it goes:

	We won't pay the poll tax
	We won't pay the poll tax
	sha naa na na
	sha naa na na
	We won't pay the poll tax
	We won't pay the poll tax
	sha naa na na
	sha naa na na...

(Darned if I can remember where this tune comes from).

There's a line about the Southern poll tax in Tom Lehrer's song about
Dixie, too.

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From: dlu@wobble.uucp (Doug Urner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.makers
Subject: Peggy Seeger will be teaching at PSGW this summer
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:25:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: wobble.1992Apr8.002524.19896
Distribution: na
Organization: dlu UNIX Consultants

The Puget Sound Guitar Workshop is a one week workshop for acoustic
guitarists, singers and songwriters.  The workshop is held in August
at a camp near Seattle.  Peggy will teach the first session (25 July
through 31 July).  She will also be at the Vancouver Folk Music
Festival (17-19 July).

Peggy will be teaching two classes.  One on turning your own real life
experiences into song, the other will trace a historical theme through
song.

Workshop flyers will be mailed within the next week or two if you are
interested you can call 206/671-4511 to get on the mailing list.  When
you get your flyer send it in *that* day if you want to go.  The
workshop fills up within a couple of weeks (each session is limited to
110 people).

Other folk who will be teaching this summer include; Bob Franke, Linda
Waterfall, Peter Langston (yes, that Peter Langston), Tony Trishka,
Flip Breskin, Carol McComb, Kim Scanlon, Kathy Kalleck, Eric
Schoenberg, John Cephas, Phil Wiggens, Geof Morgan, Bob Brozman,
Christina Olsen, Nina Gerber, Sally VanMeter.

A reply by email ought to work too.

-- 
Doug Urner, dlu@wobble   "They tear down our comrades like leaves from a tree,
dlu UNIX Consulting       leaves from a tree, leaves from a tree, but the
Bellingham, WA            tree still stands, its roots locked to the land."
206/676-5759                              -- Song of the Exile,  Barry Guilder
From: pbertsch@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Peggy Bertsch)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:19:24 GMT
Subject: New Folk fans, please read!
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk

Hi all,

A recent post on the lineup for the upcoming High Sierra Folk Festival prompted
me into making this post.  One of the performers listed was Michael McNevin, 
who I met last year at a songwriters conference in California.

I'll stop here for a second and apologize if I'm about to violate any 
netiquette...I don't intend to.  Michael has his first independently produced
tape coming out (he's already accepted quite a few orders) and I'd like to 
post ordering information, for those who might be interested.  I have 
absolutely nothing to gain financially, I just think Mike is one of the 
freshest performers I've ever seen and I think his music deserves to be 
heard.  So...

Michael and I were regional "Song of the Year" winners last year for the 
Northern California Songwriters Association (NCSA), and so we met at the 
annual NCSA conference, where we both performed at a showcase concert.  Mike
really brought the house down and caused quite a buzz among the many industry
guests (in retrospect, I'm just glad I performed *before* he did and didn't 
have to *follow* him :-)

Michael also was a winner of last year's Napa Valley New Folk competition, 
winner (finalist?) at the Columbia River New Folk competition (Spokane, WA),
and a finalist at the Kerrville, TX folk festival.  Just so you know I'm not 
the only one who thinks he's great :-)

His first tape is titled "Secondhand Story" (which, incidentally, is a song 
he wrote after buying a duffel bag at a Goodwill shop and finding an old letter
inside from one brother to another...)  I can't really think of who to compare
Mike to, but I guess he reminds me of David Wilcox (with a higher voice :-) --
smooth vocals, good guitar, intelligent lyrics with strong imagery (with a 
little humor thrown in here and there).

If interested, you can order Mike's tape by writing to:

            Michael McNevin/Mudpuddle Music
            P.O. Box 5062
            Pleasanton, CA 94566 

(please include a check for US $11.00, $10/tape + $1.00 S&H, made out to 
Michael McNevin)

...or you can just contact him to get on his mailing list.  The majority of 
his dates are out west.  In addition to the High Sierra Folk Festival this 
year (July), he'll also be at the San Francisco Folk Festival in June and 
the Napa Valley festival next October, among others.

Thanks for indulging me!  I hope some of you get a chance to see Mike play
for yourselves -- I think you're in for a treat!!

Cheers,

-peg   
pbertsch@hpmpec1b.cup.hp.com
From: terry@edsi.plexus.COM (Terry Dawson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Elderly Instruments
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:45:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr10.054503.29874
Organization: Appleton Public Library - Appleton, WI

irilyth@cs.swarthmore.edu (Joshua Smith) writes:

>Elderly Instruments, somewhere in Michigan, carries most of Clannad's

Elderly is in Lansing.  They put a map on the back of their catalog, so
a few weeks ago, a bunch of us middle-aged folkies bundled into a van
and drove about eight hours to visit Elderly.  The trip was well
worthwhile.  Not a huge store, but with one of the nicest selections of
books, instruments, and recordings I've ever seen.

I play left-handed guitar and it's a major event for me to see any left
handed instruments in the stores where I live.  At Elderly I was able to
noodle around on and compare five guitars, including two Martins and a
Gibson.  The right handers in our group were even more ecstatic.  Lots
of nice stuff, reasonable prices and a friendly, helpful and
knowledgeable staff.

>I have no affiliation with Elderly except as a _very_ satisfied customer.
>Oh, they also have a books and videos catalog, as well as new and used
>instruments catalogs, if either of those suits your fancy. Good luck!

Likewise...

-- 
     Terry Dawson       | "Only connect!" | voice: (414) 832-6168
Appleton Public Library |                 |   fax: (414) 832-6422
  Appleton, WI 54911    |  -E.M. Forster  | terry@edsi.plexus.com
From: gt2109a@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Lyrics requests
Keywords: Jack Haggerty, Arthur McBride, At It Again, When I Was A Fair Maid
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:20:25 GMT
Organization: North Avenue Trade School

Thanks for the lyrics.  My dilemma is solved!
-Mike

-- 
Michael Simpson
Box 32109 Georgia Tech      "If a man has learned and loved, then he
GO JACKETS GO!!!             can say that he has been happy." -?
Internet: gt2109a@prism.gatech.edu
From: djb@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (David Brightbill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Concertina wannabe
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:50:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: mailer.1992Apr7.165024.24038
Organization: Florida State University

I'm looking for hints and tips for getting started on the concertina.  I'd like
to hear about begining books, albums to listen to, sources of used instruments,
what to look for in an instrument, etc.  So far, I think that I should look for
a 30 button anglo instrument.  I'm into irish and contra dance music..also sea
chanteys.  A lot of stuff in D and G, some in Em, Am, etc.  My understanding is
that the 30 button instrument has the range to be able to play in most common
keys.  My current primary instrument is the tin whistle and I am assuming that
it should not be too hard a transition.  Thanks in advance.  Davie
.
From: flip@wobble.uucp (Flip Breskin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Music request: "How can I keep from singing?"
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:19:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: wobble.1992Apr7.011944.15321
Organization: dlu UNIX Consultants

pscchris@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Christopher Holoman) writes:

>Can someone give me a pointer to a source for the sheet music to
>the above song?  I became acquainted with it when Jean Redpath sung
>it on the last Praire HC.  It has recently been recorded (not to
>particularly good effect IMHO) by Enya.  Enya credits it as a 
>Shaker hymn, but I found no mention in two scholarly treatments
>of Shaker hymns I consulted.

Gordon Bok, Anne Mayo Muir, and Ed Tricket have a pretty good
recording of it, acappella, on their folk-legacy record, Turning
Towards the Morning.  Also on John McCutcheon album, How can I ...

Rise Up Singing (great songbook from Sing Out!) credits Doris Plenn,
and describes it as pre-civil war, North Carolina *Quaker.*  
Sheet music in Reprints from Sing Out! #8 (recently reissued) and in
Singout! volume 7 #1.  Pete Seeger has it on Bells or Rhymney, and
Arlo Guthrie on Precious Friend.  Enjoy.