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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:53:00 +0100
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From:         "Bas Schellevis,
              University Utrecht NL" <SCHELLEVIS@HUTRUU53.BITNET>
Subject: Re: RPRINTER BATCH FILE

RPR_WAIT is a simple program I wrote to solve this problem.
If someone wants to have it; just let me know where to put it.

Bas Schellevis
SCHELLEVIS@MED.RUU.NL


RPR_WAIT.DOC:

Usage: RPR_WAIT <print server> <printer#> [file server] [/QUIET]

RPR_WAIT waits until printer <printer#> on print server
<print server> (on file server [file server]) is disconnected.
This is very usefull to avoid rprinter's "Printer x on server y
is already in use" message.

Example AUTOEXEC.BAT:

@ECHO OFF
:
:StartRemotePrinter
:
 RPR_WAIT PS1 4
 RPRINTER PS1 4 T1
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:36:00 EST
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From:         Fund@RELAY.PROTEON.COM
Subject:      Re: the SFT III saga...

>>Iam starting the SFT III discussion again because a customer of us is
>>jumping for it and it still seems to be a NT product (Not There).
>>First of all: I have heard various prices, In the US it should cost
>>about $16.000, Novell Benelux (belgium/netherlands/luxembourg) gave
>>us a price of , Is this for 1 server or for both (the primary and the
>>secondary)??
>>mailbox@zeus.ice.nl (Henno Keers)                     Zeus mailbox

>   $18995 US for the both copies.  Only 250 user is available now.

>   No MAC or UNIX support at this time.  4.0 will have it when it
>   comes out and 3.1x will be retrofitted to support these name
>   spaces in the future.

>   In addition to the software you will need a pair of 100 MByte/sec
>   cards and a cable to connect them up.

>   Thomas Conrad (512) 836-1935  Europe # +49-211-5048781
>   and
>   Plaintree Systems (613) 831-3283

>   have certifed cards.  Expect to spend in the $3000-$4000 for the set.

>>I don't know about the prices, they might be right, but as far as I know,
>>SFT III is called a "controlled release", means you have to do some paperwork
>>if you wanna buy it and Novell checks whether you can get it.

>>Peter
>>EMail : pbartok@novell.com

   Seems to me, that if your credit is good, and you have $19K burning a
   hole in your pockets, Novell is not going to turn down to many of
   these babies.  Does that seem reasonable to you?

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From:         Mark Fairmaid <fairmaid@NZLS02.NZL.ABK.NEC.CO.JP>
Subject:      Re: Metering Software

>Paul:
>
>  I am interested in what you find out there.  Could you please let me know
>if you find a metering packaging that will create a usage report.

>Thanks

>Fuad@suffolk.edu

I am interested too.

fairmaid@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
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From:         Brandon Grady <bgrady@CARROLL1.CC.EDU>
Subject:      Login Scripts

I'm sorry if this is a "fyi", but I'm looking for a quick painless
answer to this seemingly easy question.  Will a user login script be
run after the system login script is run, or does the system login
script cancel out any user login scripts?  If both should run, why
won't ours?

Thanks for any input.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:38:10 -0600
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From:         Mauro Jose de Souza <maujos@JARAU.INF.UFRGS.BR>
Subject:      Re: TCP/IP as Netware protocol recommended ?

On 18 Nov 1992 19:49:28 +0000 (GMT), Ernst Kloecker wrote:

>Hi,
>
>we are in the process of setting up a Novell network, where PC's running
>DOS and OS/2 are connected to a Novell server. The RDBMS Oracle 6.0 will
>be running on the Novell server as well. We also want to connect a Unix
>box to the net, which will send RPC-requests using the TCP/IP protocol
>to an OS/2 machine on the LAN.
>
>I heard that now you have got a choice of the underlying protocol in Novell
>Netware (IPX/SPX and TCP/IP). Is that true ?
>
>If yes, would I encounter any problems when using the TCP/IP protocol ?
>Is TCP/IP supposed to be the "main" protocol to be supported in upcoming
>releases of Netware or will Novell stick to IPX/SPX ?

we have ORACLE 6.0 running in a UNIX (Sun) and SQLPLUS and others tools in
our NOVELL 3.11. We use TCP/IP that came with NOVELL to route and at
workstations we use  PCTCP from FTP with ODI.

>If TCP/IP is supported I would of course prefer using that as the only
>protocol on the net.
>
>
>Does anybody want to comment on that ?
>
>Thanks for any info, Ernst.
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From: rick@SJSUMCS.SJSU.EDU (Richard Warner)
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Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 Fixes/Patchs
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:45:33 GMT
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              "BRUNIJ@NOBEL.ISD.UPMC.EDU" at Nov 15, 92 8:17 am

>
> I keep reading in the trade rags that IBM is providing various
> fixes and/or patches to OS/2 2.0 "electronically".
>
> What they do not mention is where.  I do not have a CompuServe account so can
> anyone tell me where these things are available?
>
> John Bruni
>
> BRUNIJ@EDISON.ISD.UPMC.EDU


The primary site in the US is IBM's Watson Research Center's ftp server,
software.watson.ibm.com.  But knowing that this is a large load and can
increase network traffic substantially, a lot of ftp sites around the
country have put it on-line.  There are a number of patches for the
GA version of OS/2, plus the full CSD (upgrade pack).  The CSD is
something like 16 disk images (two formats, 3-1/2" and 5-1/4") plus
a loader to move the image to disk.  If you want the CSD, I would
highly recommend that you do an archie search to locate the nearest
ftp site.  The file names are "spg301" to "spg316" for the 3-1/2"
images, and "spg501" to "spg516" for the 5-1/4" (all are compressed and
have the .zip extension).  The package is about 12 Mb or so, therefore
there has been a call from the OS/2 community that downloads be done
in off-hours and from local sites, and that OS/2 owners at a site share
one (or two, if you need both disk sizes) set of downloads.  Also, be
advised that you should read the README file - it tells you that it will
try to upgrade ALL copies of OS/2 on your machine!

If you do not want the full CSD, try the ibm ftp server or
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu for patches.  On CompuServe, 'GO IBMOS2'.

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From: MAILBOX@ZEUS.ICE.NL (Zeus Mailbox)
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Subject: Re: Ethernet or UTP?
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:13:10 GMT
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>         Our network manager is keen to modify our cabling requirements
> from Thin Ethernet to twisted pair. (Our LAN only goes as far as the 10th
 floor
> in the same building as the server). Does anybody have a good/bad
> experiences of using UTP on a Netware 386 3.11 setup ? and is there any
> particular pitfalls we have to look out for ?
>

Hello everybody,

I would go for utp allways, but... with a small hesitation. I would
ask your installer if his cabling not only supports 10BaseT, but also:
- RS232 (Pin layouts & Adapters !)
- IBM 3270 (Pin layouts & Adapters !)
- IBM Token-ring 16/4 (Pin-layouts & Adapters!)
- Fddi (level 5 cable, Pin layout, Adapters)
- Analog and digital phone (Pin layout, Voltage protectors)
- Patch panels
- Is there a floor/campus layout possible ?
- Is there a possibility to use fiber in combination with utp ?
- Is the cable length well defined?? 10BaseT only supports 100 meter
  cable lengths, TRN over utp too...

Why am I asking you to take a look at this too?? Well pretty simple,
in the last few decades, computer manufacturers have forced us to
use there own propriety cabling system. Don't remember? What do you
think of:
- Thick coax (10Base5 ethernet, also called 'beer-hose')
- Thin coax (10Base2 ethernet, thinwire, rg58)
- IBM ICS (for token-ring, 3270 etc ofcourse...)
- Wang twin-ax
- IBM coax (3270) (93 ohm)
- Old fashion telephone cabling
- Thin coax for Arc-net (75 Ohm)
etc etc

The nice thing is, that if you have even only a little bit mixed
environments, that you probably have 4 different wiring systems in
your building that can't be used for anything else, that can't be
managed, that needs a cabling contractor every time that you want to
move some people around.

If you choose a cabling system that can do all this and has good
support and has everything layed out in pin-layouts, then you can
make a real choise.
Don't choose for a utp system that only can give you ethernet
connectivity.
mailbox@zeus.ice.nl (Henno Keers, CNE)                   Zeus mailbox
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:39:00 LCL
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From:         MFITZGIB <M.Fitzgibbons@SHU.AC.UK>
Subject:      Request to sign off

Sorry to all Novell list subscribers about sending the message this way,
but
as our site name has changed we cant un-subscribe from this list! The other
problem is that our mailer chops out the route information and so I cant be
sure
exactly the sites that the mail is from!  <:-(

So please look at your distribution lists and remove the following
subscribers

tkeen@uk.ac.scp                       (Sheffield City Polytechnic as was)
novell@uk.ac.scp.cms

Mick Fitzgibbons    m.fitzgibbons@SHEFFIELD-HALLAM.AC.UK
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From:         "Derek L. Bell" <rp6dlb@TEXACO.COM>
Subject: Re: Ethernet or UTP?

I have installed several UTP networks using 10baseT and find it to be the best
 topology overall. You still get the performance of ethernet AND the ease of
 installation and support of a star wired LAN. IF they ould outlaw all other
 types (except fiber)
then my job would be easy!!!

Derek
rp6dlb@Texaco.COM
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From:         Rac1154 <rac1154.dsc1@PCMAIL.DCCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Program to check login/attach status -Rep

Reply Text--------------

Look for a program called NOVBAT.  It's a shareware program that
does more than check if a user is attached.  You can also use it
for checking for group membership and other such statuses.  It
does return an errorlevel.  I'm afraid I don't have any ftp site
on this as I picked it up on a dialup BBS.

ORIGINAL MESSAGE -----

From: Kwa Kim Chiong <kkimchio@TRANTOR.DSO.GOV.SG>

We are looking for a program that will check whether the user is
logged on or  attached to a server. We want to run this program
in a batch file before  executing other program. The program
should preferably return an errorlevel code.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:52:18 -0500
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From:         Jim Curry <curryj@MGH.COM>
Subject:      Undefined NetWare Msg

Hi:

I've received the following NW386 r3.11 error message from a few
workstations on my ethernet network.

"Station 43 user JSMITH exceeding outstanding NCP directory search limit"

I can't find this message in my Novell System Messages manual - can anyone
tell me what this means?

Thanks,

Jim Curry
McGraw-Hill, Inc.
Hightstown, NJ

(609) 426-5804 or curryj@mgh.com
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:01:04 EST
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From:         Jon Glazer <JONGLA@SYMIX.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      NFS Routing

Is it possible for a pc on one side of a file server (via ethernet
card "A") to see a host (unix) on the other side (via ethernet card
"B")?  Both ethernet cards "A" and "B" are in the file server (3.11)
and I have NFS loaded with tcpip set to route.  I cannot seem to get
IP packets to go "through" the file server to the Unix host.  If you
have a solution, can you send me a copy of the pertinent commands for
an AUTOEXEC.NCF?

Thanks,
Jon


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From: herzogs@ucs.orst.edu (Stephen Herzog)
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Subject: Metering Software -Reply
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:30:57 GMT
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>What metering software packages are out there?  We need to monitor the
>number of concurrent users of the standard Windows applications (Word,
>Excel and PowerPoint) and I don't know any packages out there.  Any
>suggestioins?
>
>Thanks for your help.

There is a new product we sent out at the beginning of the month.  The
program is called LanLock, and it does software metering of DOS and Windows
applications.  It comes with a 60 day trial period so you can test
it before you purchase.  it is available from ftp.uni-kl.de in the
/pub/pc/novell directory titled lanloc11.zip.  If you do not have
FTP, I can mail you a copy in a UUencoded format.

I also noticed the following message in comp.sys.novell...

>I don't know of any license server applications yet.  I suggested this
>to Brightworks a couple of times, but they don't seem to see the value
>or need for it.
>
>Too bad, if someone could put together a centralized license server
>application (with automatic reversion to a local server's license
>server if the central server goes down) I think they'd make a killing.

LanLock will let you do this.  you may set up a system such that one 
centralized license server does all the work, and have a backup server
incase your routing goes down.

LanLock can limit software on the user's hard disks as well as the 
file server.  It also has an optional logfile that can store usage data, 
and generate reports of software usage in minutes/hours/days for each 
application or user.  And it can even tell you which applications are
being overused, and the number of users that were not able to use
applications.

Feel free to give it a try, and send any suggestions/questions to me if 
you have them.

Stephen Herzog  - herzogs@ucs.orst.edu

Secure Design 
Corvallis, OR. 
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From:         CS06999 <CS06999@MONTCOLC.BITNET>
Subject:      Does routgen create a bridge or a router?

We finally have two Netware servers in close proximity to each
other, same office, and we thought that before we fiddled with
our router we would create a ROUTEGEN router to see if our LAN's
could talk to each other. While it took a couple of tries to get
routegen to work, we left the terminator off the ethernet cable,
when it did it worked fine.

Now we want to configure our institutional router so that it works
the same way. But what do we configure it as: a router? a bridge?
Do we use perhapse a source routing bridge, or build an IPX packet
router? or both? Which way do we configure it to receive identical
functionality to the ROUTGEN module?

Thanks in advance
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From:         "Douglas R. Nebeker" <$DOUGN@SASB.BYU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Utility to retrieve Password?

> Is there a utility available that will return the password of a logged on
 user?
>
> I would like to use this utility to log onto other systems (not Netware) that
> have passwords synchronized with the Novell server.
>
> (Norton Desktop for Windows appears to be able to read the password since it
> allows you to tie a screen saver password to the Novell password.)
>
> Thank you for any help you can give me.
> ----
>  Dave Jeffery           JI8@psuvm.psu.edu
>

I don't believe you'll find what you're looking for--if you do,
Novell security would go down the drain.

The way Norton works is by getting a password from the user, he then
uses a call named something like VerifyPassword.  VerifyPassword
accepts a password and simply tells you if it is right or wrong.


_________

Douglas R. Nebeker                     Internet: $dougn@sasb.byu.edu
Brigham Young University
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:17:09 -0800
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From:         Brian Olson <olson@CSUFRES.CSUFRESNO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Looking for IPX routing info/suggestions

>Could anyone lead me to a technical description of IPX routing?

Check out  /pub/pc/novell/ipxrout.zip  on  ftp.uni-kl.de (probably
several other hosts as well).  This is a POSTSCRIPT document
describing IPX routing, RIP, SAP, etc.

Brian J. Olson
olson@csufres.csufresno.edu
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:04:00 EST
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From:         Kevin Meek <kmeek@CTI.COM>
Subject:      Re: X-Windows Software for ODI

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>Hi

>Is their anybody who is using any kind of X-Windows software on a PC
>running ODI. If yes I am after some advice for that.

Yes -- we run PC-Xvision which works with FTP/tcp drivers on top
of ODI,   This allows us to attach to novell and have Xwindows as
part of our MS windows environment.  It works great but takes up
a large chunk of your 640 K ram with the network drivers.

Kevin












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