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From: ll23%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu (Karen Kay)
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Posted on 28 Dec 1992 at 21:49:59 by Natalie Maynor
>I'm confused.  Did they trash her because they thought she was black or
>because she isn't black?

This about the Women's Review of Books.  The story is that they reviewed
the book of a friend of mine with several other up-and-coming black women
authors.  (She's a poet.)  But she isn't black, and no one ever checked w/
her to make sure.  The reviewer felt that Jeanne had somehow been dishonest.
(Her book has several major black characters.)

Karen
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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        If I thought that, which I certainly don't, then why would I have
        used Hitler as an example of a person with contemptible, but deeply
        held beliefs? Nor do I believe that a person with deep beliefs is
        a fanatic. I do believe any belief system or situation can have its
        fanatics.

Could you tell me (as a Professor of English) what exactly you think a
fanatic (and a zealot) is, if not someone of deep beliefs?

I would class the following as three points on a continuum:
believer <= fanatic <= zealot - and someone of professed 'deep'
beliefs can't just be another plain 'believer' surely?  I'd have
said someone of deep beliefs was a fanatic by definition.  In your
case, since your primary belief system is religious, you're not
a mere fanatic but a full-blown zealot...

G
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      My Search for Black-eyed Peas
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Well, I went to the second (of 3!) grocery stores today...I found canned
black-eyed peas with bacon.  I'll try to go to the 3rd grocery store
tomorrow before I leave.

Karen
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>>I like life better on E-mail, too.
>>
>>etc.
>>
>>Evelyn
>
>The episode in Dayton is the only one not making the news on aus tv.... guess
>that's not considered newsworthy enough anymore. :-(
>
One up my way made the national news here.  An undergrad at a small college in
Great Barrington Massachussetts went on a shooting spree about two weeks
ago.  He and his trusty brand new semi-automatic rifle shot and killed 
another undergrad and a Spanish profesor, as wounding several other people.
Afterward, the kid promptly turned himself over to the cops.

The shootings were apparently random, and I don't think anyone has any idea
why he did it, kid included. :-(  

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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: On the shortage of lives on words-l

>Yeah, like who doesn't. But I read in the Voice that Limelight was a great
>place to pick up guys.
>
>-abh

Well, the Voice was, as usual, and like CNN, half right.

-K

-Mka
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Camillemania
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On Mon, 21 Dec 1992, Jim Thomas wrote:

> Tenuda is to MTV/The Comedy Channel--an occasionally entertaining
> comic with little of substance to say.

I take it we won't be ircing then?

-abh
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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In article <01GSKZND44DS0019M3@opie.bgsu.edu> CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:
>Greetings,
>
>I find a deeply held belief in "racial purity" no more difficult to stomach
>than a deeply held belief in a "personal savior," in "original sin," in
>"Jesus, son of god," in "the divine right of kings," in "free-market
>economics," or in a host of other things in which lots of people at one time
>or another have held dear.

Except that beliefs in "racial purity" (and similar views) are more
readily translated into direct action *against* others than are beliefs
in a "free market" or "personal saviour." Some deeply held beliefs are
more distasteful and immediately dangerous to non-believers than others.

Jim (But I don't deeply believe this) Thomas
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu (Brad Baxter) says:

>>want, even for Christmas. [or Twelth Night, for anyone who gives gifts then]
>>[or for Chanukah, the Solstice, or Cat Claw Sharpening Day or whatever it is]
>>
>>Happy Bah Humbug, if you prefer.
>>--
>Don't forget Boxing Day.
>
In the clearing stands a Boxer....  In the corner of the dorm room stand some
boxers....<grin>   Which Boxing Day do you prefer, wash day, the fight at
Caesar's Atlantic City, or the one on December 26th?

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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Stew to die for
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              2 Jan 1993 20:12:27 -0600 from <dorisann@TENET.EDU>

ok....what the hell's brunswick stew....was it new enough to be
New Brunswick stew???

dan
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Why *do* the Italians call Munich the "Monaco of Bavaria"?  What's the
correspondence?  All I can think of is "playground" or "fun city" or the
like.  Why, you might as well call Tupelo the "Pittsburgh of Northeast
Mississippi."

brad
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: WORDS-L TP: Mka's Science/Nature Question

>"Where's the pituitary gland?"

1: In the head

2: at the bottom of the brain--right around the carbuncles.

>
>Rolls of double 2, allow you to choose any remaining category at the next
>turn, if you're right.

Any *remaining* category?  I can't just keep doing science/nature?

Well, science/nature if I can do it; geography if I can't please.

-K

-Mka
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: About this trivia game
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>>I wouldn't mind jumping in for someone during winter break...
>
>--Aaron

You don't have to take anyone's place, I have a place just waiting for you...
in fact, I just might 'put you in your place'. :-) IOW, Aaron, you're in the
game.... pick a category.

Carolyn
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: New Year's Good Luck Foods
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              02 Jan 93 09:21:33 -0500. <9301021425.AA13164@sics.se>

  Brad, with his tongue so far in cheek he seems to have an umbrella in his
mouth:

   >Natalie is right:  it is a tradition of long standing in the South.

  So you're in on it too?
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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From: Aaron L Dickey <kieran@WORLD.STD.COM>

> Lots of other fun stuff at Gutenberg too: Alice in Wonderland, Federalist
> Papers, ad infinitum...if it's literature and don't got a copyright, it's
> probably in there somewhere.
>
Another option for much of this stuff (not dictionaries though) is
the Library Of the Future Series, 2nd ed. (Version 4)
World Library Inc
12914 Haster St
Garden Grove, CA 92640
  (714) 748-7197
  (800) 443-0238
Fx(714) 748-7198  (24 hrs)

CD Rom  with "Complete Text and Illustrations of over 950 titles
              from over 500 works of literature, philosophy, drama,
              poetry, science and religion."
The search mechanism is useful, but not the brightest and best
   piece of programming I've ever seen.
Interestingly, under the heading of Historical Documents, it
includes all the great US ones - incl. Fed.Papers, and throws in,
just for fun I guess, the Code of Hammurabi, Beowulf, El Cid and the
Magna Carta.

Pm
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Merry Christmas to USF

I am on the 4th floor of our building watching our Christmas Present
arrive.  It's in a huge Allied moving van, there is a truck towing
a six wheel trailer with a fork lift on it, and a very large crane
set up along side our building.  The present is a IBM 3090 model 400E
(that's from memory, so may have a few numbers wrong).  Anyway, we are
upgrading our current 3090 processor with a much larger one.  Our
computer room is on the third floor.  They remove a section of the
building (intentionally built that way) to lift new mainframe from
ground to building.  Kind of exciting as when the crane lifts the
platform looks like its going to come thru my window.....but guess
the operator knows how to run that crane.  Will be interesting to
see how things run next week ...that's when new CPU is supposed to
be running..

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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In a previous article, ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM () says:

>> enjoyed all her toys thoroughly, especially the See N' Say from Auntie
>> :). She's just about coordinated enough now to stick her pacifer in
>> her own mouth, so it was fun to torment her by holding Peek-a-boo
>> Ernie just out of her tiny reach.
>
>The kid likes TOYS?  Watsamatter with her?  When ours were tiny like
>that, they'd make their own.  That is, we'd go out and buy them
>something like a See 'N' Say, and they'd think the best part of the
>toy was the box it came in.
>
Well OF COURSE it is!  Cats and kids have the best taste in toys.:-)
Once, when my parents bought a new television - a monster console job - my
sister and I totally ignored the set for days and played with the box it came
in.  The set died ages ago, and I don't even remember what it looked like, but
I do remember that box - especially after my sister and I got through taking
our boxes of crayons to it.:-)

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From:         GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs

Rh chides G
>Grahmie-pie, this is what got you and me into serious hot water the last time.
>I've stayed on the sidelines in this one; it's not worth bothering our
>pretty little heads about.  Let them parade their mutual disbeliefs without
>us.:-)  Let's both go off in a corner and repeat "I do believe in fairies,
>I DO, I DO" until we bring Tinkerbell back to life....
>
>Or maybe just click our heels together three times?  I've always wanted
>to go to Australia...

You seem to have the correct referents -- superstition and fiction.

JAG
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:34:34 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      New Mail System

We have a new mail system here at Akron U.:  Rice Mail '92.
What can anyone tell me about the new system and its creator:
Richard A. Schafer?

Thanks in advance,
Evelyn
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In a previous article, "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 " (815) says:

>: Wish I were in your shoes
>
>How well do you fit a 10 1/2 E?  I didn't set up a tree (never

Sloppily; I take [women's] 10 AAAAs [4A heel as opposed to "medium" = 2A].
Those 10.5s would fall off of my feet.:-)

>have.)  Christmas in Titletown ... see Mom and my brother and sister
>and brother in law; maybe gamble away some $$ on the reservation,
>watch the Pack kick some Viking butt ...
>
Go Pack!  Evict those invading Viking scum from our native shores!

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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Deep beliefs
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:17:04 GMT

ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka) writes:


>And here some wordslers have been telling me to shut up.<grin>  Can't please
>everyone, Aaron.


Now THERE'S something I've truly learned from this list. :)

--Aaron

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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Alt-Brad's been sleep-talking
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>>Hang on a minute! You've already had a turn.... you'll have to wait until
>>all the available new players have had a turn, then if Geography is one of
>>the options available on your dice roll, you can have it.... otherwise
>>you may have to select another one. :-)
>
>Wrong brad, sorry.
>[..]

* Alt-Brad *

No, it was you all right - I guess you really must have been still asleep. :-)
The proof follows:-
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Date: 19 Dec 1992 19:45:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: RE: WORDS-L TP: Alt-Brad's Turn
In-reply-to: Message of Sat,
 19 Dec 1992 20:49:04 +1000 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

Huh?  What?  Okay, I awake now.  Is Science and Nature a legitimate move?

* Alt-Brad *
Date: 19 Dec 1992 21:16:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: RE: WORDS-L TP: Alt-Brad's Science/Nature Question
In-reply-to: Message of Sun,
 20 Dec 1992 12:33:25 +1000 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

>Yep.... Science and Nature it is!
>"What was the first animal named to the U.S.A.'s Animal Hall of Fame, in 1969?"
   Would that be the first chimp in space?
>
>You have moved 3 spaces and, if correct, can move a further 5 spaces giving
>you a choice of any of the remaining topics except Entertainment.
>

I will be surprised if my answer is correct (or was it a question?),
but if so, Geography is the next move.  And I take it back; I am not
quite awake.

* Alt-Brad *
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:30:55 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: cshow
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> Ok, so now things are progressing, I think.  I have finally
> managed to ftp a .gif file and have it sitting in my 3270
> directory.  I also have CSHOW sitting there, but don't know
> what to do with it.  How do I make it work to view this .gif?

I assume that you mean they're sitting on your PC.  That's the first
step.  (And I assume that you remembered that they're binary.)  Do you
have pkunzip?  You'll need it to unzip cshow.  (I'm assuming that you got
it from the list ftp stuff and thus that it's still zipped.)  After
unzipping it, enter 'cshow', highlight the .gif file, and hit <enter>.
Then hit space bar.

> The .gif file won't work in any of the graphics programs I
> have, for reasons that probably everyone understands but me.
> Any suggestions?

Cshow is a program for viewing gifs.  You don't need a graphics program.

> Please don't say something like "Run CSHOW"....  tell me *how*.

Make sure there's a file named cshow.exe in the same directory with the
gif you want to view.  Then run it.  :-)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Richard Feynman
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              Dec 21, 92 8:38 pm

>Has anyone read the new biography of Richard Feynman?  Is it worth
>reading?  Is it worth buying in hardback?

According to a couple of reviews, the _Surely, you're Joking, Mr. Feynman_ and
the other autobiographical books portrayed Feynman's spirit far better than the
book by Gleick.  Apparently, one of the problems with the biography is that it
seems like mostly rehashed material, since we're seen it all in the earlier
series.

>Evelyn (who was surprised to find out that Feynman's IQ was only 125)

More support for the position that measures like IQ really don't mean a whole
lot.

-rashmi
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      natalie's jock
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              30 Dec 1992 21:47:10 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:47:10 CST Natalie Maynor said:
>>    once again an oil that can be rubbed on as a liniment....it is HOT....
>> get someone to put some in your jock if you want to feel REAL fire in
>> your loins.....(have seen it done...NOT funny to the recipient)
>
>I trust that the "your" above is indefinite, not a direct response to me...

despite the 'come on' line for the subject above.....

I do indeed use the 'your' in an indefinite manner....and have NO reason
to believe that Natalie has a personal jock.....though she may of course
have some in a trophy case....sorta like high school boys hanging garters
from their rearview mirrors?

dan
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Subject:      Richard Feynman

Has anyone read the new biography of Richard Feynman?  Is it worth
reading?  Is it worth buying in hardback?

Evelyn (who was surprised to find out that Feynman's IQ was only 125)
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On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:32:20 EST Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078 said:
>Great to see you writing!   ....and hey, I thought the two of you looked
>great! .....of course I was looking at your personalities ....

   thanks...appreciate that....

>You are, of course, right on with your comments .....but how do you
>get teenagers, swamped with all this "look great" stuff (TV, magazines,
>etc)... to understand that there are far greater values to look for in
>a relationship than a "great bod"?  Maybe that explains why some of their

   hell, if i knew that, i'd be able to bottle it and solve the world's
problems....or at least some of them....
   seriously, i just think it takes time and maturity....and that just
takes time....unlike so many other things that are quick fixes....

>marriages are so short ..... after the thrill of sex dies out, what do
>they have left (if fantastic appearance was the primary attraction)?
>Take it easy cyclops! (but read my stuff :-))

  i ALWAYS read your stuff, don....

best for the new machine(s)

dan
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 08:57:43 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Mousely Matters and Written Slang
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I'm sitting here pondering mysteries like why when I tried to install
mouse software (in order to click mouse to make scrollback work when using
slip driver under DVX) it told me "not enough memory" (I have 8 meg RAM)
and why Graham finds the concept of written slang odd.  Any enlightenment
on either of these mysteries will be appreciated.

The mouse says Microsoft on it.  Hmmmm.  I just thought of something.
The mouse disk says Imsi.  Maybe I'm mixing mouse particles.  The disk
might go with a previous mouse.  (The neighbor from whom I buy computer
parts keeps including mice in my transactions even though I normally keep
mice on a shelf, detached from computer.)  Wonder if I have another mouse
disk around here somewhere...  But why would it say "not enough memory"
anyway?

And why do you find the concept of written slang odd, Graham?  I often am
exposed to slang in reading.  I would guess that "copacetic" shows up more
often now in writing than in speech -- although not all that often in either.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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