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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:32:29 EDT
From:         Robert Holder <robert@WHIPLASH.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject:      NEW WORLD ORDER
X-To:         FNORD-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

well well well.

gee what a fucking vacation.  I went to lollapalooza and gee what
a time I had.  bullshit PAPER BUNK!  oh well.  I got there.  And
ministry gave me cause to watch my toes.  good ole commercial human
FEEELING manipualtion.  here's my cash money, have a nice day.

GIVE ME THAT THORAZINE MAN OH THE THORAZINE YOU DON'T NEED THE
THORAZINE RELAXRELAX

I never knew what sound was!  well now I know.

there were hippies everywhere.  I bought a little om pendant which
I now have around my neck. may the eternal strike my hypocritical
ass dead.

JUST ONE FIX JUST ONE FIX JUST ONE FIX JUST ONE FIX

in case anyone here cares I thought I would present a little local
knews.

the Tee Vee sez that the dade county neighborhoods have CONVERTED
into armed enclaves.  the volunteer food people say they are handing
their food out at gunpoint.  I'm trying to talk my girlfriend and
my coworker XXXX into driving south tommorrow for a little disneyland
after all that is what florida is all about right?

they keep fucking saying no.

PUSH THE BUTTON CONNECT THE GODDAMN DOTS!

I haven't read my mail yet, I just came back in a drunken haze this
saturday to read my mail, and wanted an unAFFECTedmessage to go out.

Pollyclips

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~robert holder~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~       assistant unix troll   us geological survey      ~
~ robert@whiplash.er.usgs.gov  st petersburg florida usa ~
~~~~~Frank got busted on a narco rap he beat the rap~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~by ratten on some bikers~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:20:00 EDT
From:         LIBALP@EMUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Filmstrip version

America today make up seventy-five percent of the population.  The Bush
stolen from other sources in what some are calling the lamest attempt at humor
administration, when pressed for comment, issued the following statement:
In other news today, a recent poll shows that three out of four people in
this side of the post just before this one.  I gotta get me a job, you know?
"Yeah, well, that's just physics."
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:43:05 EDT
From:         LIBWCA@EMUVM1.BITNET
              26 Aug 1992 01:04:44 PDT from <jprovo@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU>

On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:04:44 PDT <jprovo@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU> said:

>I re-iterate, and would do so privately if I didn't think this needs to be
>driven home to some people, "this fucking list is CHARTERED with a reason to
>exist".

And I re-iterate- "Post something relevant to that charter."  I assume
that the list was NOT chartered as a forum for complaining incessantly
about people who disregard the charter.  Although, come to think of it,
the logical implications of that are rather elegant... hmm...
Bill
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:29:36 EDT
From:         LIBALP@EMUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      World Without Guilt

Alex Martelli <amartell@NYX.CS.DU.EDU> says:
>DFOSS@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU (Daniel A. Foss) writes lots of stuff.

But is that really the point?


With greetin's to Foss in Lake Wobegon,
libalp
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From: mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris)
Subject: Re: at first thought he was blind but now can this really be the
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:07:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU writes:
: what is FNord-L

FNord-L is an attempt to add one more level of obfustification
to the disinformation process, by the creative use of fnords and
other anxiety producing items. Someday enough people will have
added enough chaos to make it a perfect picture of truth.

--
Mary E. S. Morris    |  The future exists first in imagination, then
mesm@netcom.COM      |  in will, then in reality. -- Galivan Burwell
=====================================================================
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:51:06 EDT
From:         Robert Holder <robert@WHIPLASH.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject:      jprovo
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can barely type

140mph winds keepin me back

just kidding

VERRY FUKKING FUNNY PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING

yeah?  so what's your point.

sorry I'm a internet pussy.  (no offense fems)
I haven't been doing this long.

thank you jprovo


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~robert holder~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~       assistant unix troll   us geological survey      ~
~ robert@whiplash.er.usgs.gov  st petersburg florida usa ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~VISUALIZE CLOSE AIR SUPPORT~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:30:21 PDT
From:         Tane' Tachyon <tachyon@DEEPTHT.ARMORY.COM>
Subject:      Re: law of 5 (and other meaningless coincidences)

>And the coincidental typo in Falcon Press' first paperback edition of RAW's
>"Cosmic Trigger 2", making Ezra Pound's residence in Italy, from Rapallo as
>it was, into Rapollo -- Rapallo is sunny enough as it is, but no doubt Ra
>(aka Apollo, aka Sol Invictus), should He exist, would be more pleased by
>the alternate spelling.  But no, the note in those three bars is NOT a sol
>(aka G), alas...
>--
>Alex Martelli - preferred email alex@am.sublink.org

I don't think I've ever seen a collection of books with more typos in
them than the ones put out by Falcon Press.

       - Tachyon
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:04:44 PDT
From:         jprovo@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU
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Subject: re: subjects [was Re: robert ]

From: Undetermined origin c/o Postmaster <POSTMASTER@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
[who i know mentioned his identity, but I forgot]

[me]
>>No-one ever said EVERYTHING has to - but this fucking list is CHARTERED with a
>>reason to exist.

[him/her/it]
>Joe, I've said this a million time- if you've got something new and
>exciting to say about the Eight-circuit model, POST IT, instead of
>wasting your time and ours with these incessant complaints about how
>you don't think other people are acting like they oughta.  If what
>you have to say is properly scintillating, it should drive the text
>orgy (nice turnophrase, whoever) into the virtual retirement home;
no.
I re-iterate, and would do so privately if I didn't think this needs to be
driven home to some people, "this fucking list is CHARTERED with a reason to
exist".
some people have the attitude "some messages are better than none."
no.
GO SOMEWHERE CHATERED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
I would rather NOT get mail from this list than just get shit.
but I WANT the relevant bits, so I wade thru.

>we call this the marketplace of ideas.
fine. start MARKETPLACE-OF-IDEAS-L. make it any charter you like. I'll KNOW to
stay away from it.  Didn't the whole bullshit over alt.raw or whatever SHOW you
something? half of the posts in the thread in alt.config said 'go to
bit.listserv.fnord-l' and the other half told everyone how pointless it would
be, seeing as how this is just a rant-a-thon....

>Oh, well; what the hell- I suppose you guys aren't actually trying
>to convince anybody anyway.  The convo here in Fnord Land has been
trite. Yup; I've been trite and the babblers have been boring.
the usual.
O well, what the hell; I guess nothing will get done.

if you don't want to play by the rules of the court, go play on another one.

joe, who would be interested in hearing some things about this Ram Dass fellow
robert mentioned....


Disclaimer: "I'm the only one foolish enough to claim these opinions as mine."
jprovo@gnu.ai.mit.edu                                       jzp@gene.ummed.edu
    Russell Street UN*X Consultations and Development     (NIC handle: JZP)
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:36:28 EDT
From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Ram Dass

Preface to the One Who Knows Him Well

Wasn't Ram Dass once Richard Alpert, Harvard man, who worked with Leary on
LSD scientific experiments? BE HERE NOW was recommended by a lot of people
for a period of about ten years, which is unusual--but then, the title indi-
cated an ability to get right to the point. John the Baptist.
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From: amartell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex Martelli)
Subject: law of 5 (was Re: Yes, Marilyn Garber, there IS a FNORD-L)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:39:51 GMT

DFOSS@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU (Daniel A. Foss) writes lots of stuff.

He omits, however, to note the crucial fact that "woman", "donna" and
"femme" are all words of 5 letters, while (in a totally unrelated
coincidence) the fifth letter, "E", is the initial of "Eve".
--
Alex Martelli - preferred email alex@am.sublink.org
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:48:35 EDT
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Subject:      Re: Hey, get me! I'm unstoppable!

>From mm:
>>Form, not content, makes things new--Benjamin Franklin.
>I propose we change this "New Ways of Thinking" business to "New Ways of
>Lookin' at Things," then maybe ever`body won't be so damn uppity.
>
>and from Tetra "Tippi" Hedron
>>Yes. Yes.
>Affirmation.  That's a new one.  Thanks, "tippi"!
>
>Alas, not only did I omit CYNOVY from my introductory tirade, but also
>HAG.  I thought I left out only one entity, but it would appear
>that I have left out two.
>And I thought I only forgot one. . . .
>
>Plabil vf gur guvat jvgu srnguef.
>Not stoppin' fer nothin',
>Jug

Oops! You meant, "Fe[r]ugnrs ugvj tavug rug fv LIBALP."

    har har, me so silly, me stick out foot and jug go boom-boom
From: moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu
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Subject: film at eleven
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:37:05 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In other news today, a recent poll shows that three out of four people in
America today make up seventy-five percent of the population.  The Bush
administration, when pressed for comment, issued the following statement:
"Yeah, well, that's just physics."  And finally, two-thirds of this post were
stolen from other sources in what some are calling the lamest attempt at humor
this side of the post just before this one.  I gotta get me a job, you know?
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:15:00 EDT
From:         LIBALP@EMUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Travel Advisory

>their food out at gunpoint.  I'm trying to talk my girlfriend and
>my coworker XXXX into driving south tommorrow for a little disneyland
>after all that is what florida is all about right?

All pilgrims attempting to pay homage to the Mouse should be advised that
the Mouse has left the Peninsula for the duration.

Try the Clown instead.

Thank you.
That is all.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:00:51 EDT
From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Dugout

Funcum groaned, abysmal in demons,
desire made one leg drag in the dirt
and Funcum moaned, all of the beautiful
spirits of the earth flying out of his reach
but still burning his eyes. How long
shall Funcum live in need, how long
shall demons dog the sunlit park
where Funcum limps,
crazed with
his
Uniball.

I SHALL NOT FOREVER ACCEPT THE TAUNTING OF THE VISUAL WORLD.

I SHALL NOT FOREVER SUFFER WITH MEANING STAYING OUT OF MY REACH.

THEY CAN'T DO THIS TO ME FOREVER.

BUT AM I GOING TO BE CHASED RIGHT TO THE LIP OF THE GRAVE?

DO YOU SAY LIP OF THE GRAVE BECAUSE YOU FOUND A COIN IN THE SAND?


DOES COIN DELIVER YOU TO GRACE THAT COMES IN THE MAIL?

THEY LAY HIS FATHER IN THE BOAT GRAVEX
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:24:37 EDT
From:         MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      what is fnord?

	I had read with fascination, not grief or horror, the descriptions
of the Florida landscape. Here was far more than Ballard: the elephants
roaming, the sky too dark, the openness and the fear.
	Today the man was carrying a 5x5 placard in front of him saying
that on October 29, someting special was going to happen. The Christians
were going to disappear. The Virgin Mary, Jesus near, is appearing in a
tree. Apocalyptic times are here. The rapture. We look around and wonder
if it could happen: Where's Joe? Or, I can't believe I'm getting this
break and going up, a sorry case like I've been.
	This billboard I had predicted.
	There is always a tincture of this anticipattion before any storm,
because of the differently charged ionic atmosphere.
	The folks who gather where the bar used to be. Not even a roof.
These realities surpass any surrealism yet accomplished. I hope to God
they are filming this, since I can't be there.
	I keep coming back to the zoo animals in the Miami streets.

I wish that Foss had been driven there to observe--he was right, of course,
that it was the most important thing.
j
Chest Xray
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From:         MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Re: at first thought he was blind but now can this really be the
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unless of course in addition to the definitions Mary Morris gave there are
other revelations as to the nature of FNORD
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From:         Tetra Hedron <MATMACCONAON@BODKIN.UCG.IE>
Subject:      Re: Subject yourself
X-To:         FNORD-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

> I am Juggernaut, and cannot be stopped.
>
> Just get in my way.

Would you like us one (1) at a time, or all (>1) together? It takes a while to
organi[s][z]e either way, you know.

Is FOSS coming? Do we get to see him, hmm?

th
From: moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu
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Subject: fascism
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:21:43 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

A friend of mine convinced me today to become a fascist.  He's heading to
Harvard to pursue some degree in modelling parts of the human brain,
specifically vision in machines, after spending several years at Oxford, and he
said, "Does the notion that any quack has the right to get up from the TV and
become a politician scare you?  Rightfully so.  Those schmoes don't need those
rights anyway, so why bother with them?"  And I had to admit, even though he's
wrong, his notion suits my mood right now very well.  So today I am a Zen
existentialist fascist.  He saw right through my Zen pretenses, though, so I
convinced him it was just my way of being happy about being alone in a
meaningless world, essentially removing despair from the equation and replacing
it will a sort of all over body tingling, and my hair, it's so soft and
manageable.  Then we decided that someday I'd run for President, but instead of
doing what I had originally planned, I'd be a fascist President, and drink a
lot of beer with my buds as we nonchalantly invaded small countries and abused
the populous masses.  We thought it'd be fun to, say, go through some major
metropolitan area and round up all the people wearing tye dies and blow them up
or something.  I suppose tomorrow I'll realize the folly of my ways, but in the
meantime, I'll crush all the starfish I can.  

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From:         MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Re: at first thought he was blind but now can this really be the
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Now its clear. Thanks. MGArber
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From:         MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      RE: at first thought he was blind but now can this really be the
              end
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what is FNord-L
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:20:00 GMT
From:         Tetra Hedron <MATMACCONAON@BODKIN.UCG.IE>
Subject:      Re: Fist fights
X-To:         FNORD-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

>Quick question from a new guy: is this sort of flaming, whining, personality
>attacking, whatever, the norm for this list, or some bizarre, unexplainable
>anomaly?  And if it *is* the norm, is this what you mean by New Ways of
>Thinking, or am I missing the boat here?

Yes. Yes.

How sweeeeeeeeeet/To see an idiot.

Thank you. That was _Monty Python Heresy_. You're so kind. Good night.

th
From: moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu
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Subject: Re: Ram Dass
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:02:23 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <9208260536.AA11596@pacscl.uarc.upenn.edu>, MM <mbm@PACSCL.UARC.UPENN.EDU> writes:
> Preface to the One Who Knows Him Well
> 
> Wasn't Ram Dass once Richard Alpert, Harvard man, who worked with Leary on
> LSD scientific experiments? BE HERE NOW was recommended by a lot of people
> for a period of about ten years, which is unusual--but then, the title indi-
> cated an ability to get right to the point. John the Baptist.

Yes, Ram Dass was once Richard Alpert, Harvard man, who worked with Leary on
LSD scientific experiments.  Whereas Leary is now a bit of a fruitcake who
claims that Alzheimer's is better than drugs, Ram Dass (reportedly) is still
going strong in his sort of mellow manner.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:40:21 EDT
From:         Mauricio Alvarenga <MAINT@BRCPRM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: V3.1 CRI and Q SYS LOADADD

Mike,

 I don't know about V3 ( I'm starting to test it now) but I had
a exec that was having the same problem of loosing output lines
with V2, what solved my problem was to use option IUCVMSG of wakeup.
I don't have the exec any more so I can't test it with the command
Q SYS LOADDD but I think that it will work OK. Anyway it will
work for the other commands.

Hope this helps


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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:58:07 EDT
From:         Valdis Kletnieks <VALDIS@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: RSCS V3.1 Message MOD query

On Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:52:26 CDT Charles Becker said:
>What's the difference between this "quiet mod" and specifying
>OPTION SENTMSG=NO in the RSCS CONFIG?

The difference is that the 'quiet mod' also nukes msgs generated by files
that are passing *through* your site, but which originated at RSCS V1 or V2
sites that don't have the 'sentmsg=no' support installed or enabled.

/Valdis
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:28:31 PDT
From:         "Dwight M. McCann" <DWIGHT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Controlling HP Printer Orientation via EXIT18

I have been asked to add support for controlling remote printer
orientation based on the supplied FORMs name, including resetting to a
default value after each print job.  A review of the Exit Customization
Guide suggests that a combination of EXIT17 and EXIT18, with EXIT18
supplying the control sequence as a separator page might work.  Is this
the appropriate method for such a facility?  Does anyone have code that
performs this function in the same or different way?

Dwight
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:50:10 TUR
From:         "Suat" <E55940@TRMETU.BITNET>
Subject:      Filter

Hello,

Does anybody know how to bounce mails of unwanted user back??
I ll be glad if someone sends such a program or let me know such a
Command that will do it.
I m on IBM3090 vm/xa CMS frame.

Thanks in advance


E55940@TRMETU.BITNET
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:56:55 PDT
From:         "Mike Friedman (510) 642-1410" <SPGMNF@UCBCMSA.BITNET>
Subject:      V3.1 CRI and Q SYS LOADADD

I use an exec to issue RSCS (V3.1) commands, trap the output with WAKEUP
and display the results as ordinary typed lines (REXX 'say').  This works
almost always (except for occasional timing problems that cause some output
lines to be lost).  But there's one command for which it never works, and
a REXX trace shows that the only output coming back via SMSG is the final
termination line ('0001 .. command complete).

The command is Q SYS LOADADD.  If I just type the following,

    smsg net (mt.) q sys loadadd

I get, via MSGNOH, the full response expected.  But as soon as I specify
'(st.)' for SMSG response, I lose the first (and only data) line of the
response.  Is there some problem with the way the output from Q SYS LOADADD
is being handled when SMSG reply is specified?

Also, does anyone know a good technique to guarantee that WAKEUP will catch
all returning SMSGs, given that, in an exec, WAKEUP must be issued *after*
the RSCS command is invoked, leaving a possible (though short) window when
some SMSGs may return without being trapped?  This is, obviously, related
to my previous question.  Perhaps I'm just not doing things as well as I might.

My exec uses the following scheme (pseudo-code):

           'SMSG NET (st.)' command
           do forever
                'WAKEUP +05:00( SMSG NOEXT QUIET'
                ...  parse and process single SMSG response ...
                end

(NET is just the name of my RSCS machine).

Any suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
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