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From: slib1396@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: sneakers
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:27:54 -0600
Summary: sneakers-redford
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I was wondering about the movie, Sneakers, with Rob Redford and the others.
Is it as good as the reviews have indicated?  I missed it this weekend and
can't wait until next weekend to see it.  Bob looks younger in this picture.
I am eagerly waiting for replys on this movie.  By the way this is my first
message.  Please excuse my mistakes. We have not been given any instructions
on how to properly use this system.
J Wildslib1396@selu.edu
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From: gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis)
Subject: Re: pretty woman
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 03:18:03 GMT

bart@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bart Gold) writes:
:      Earlier, I did nominate cape fear as most annoying in terms of just
: being painful to watch, but i agree with Pretty Woman as the most overall
: societally annoying film (everyone who loved that film should be made to
: watch 'Whore', by ken russel)

Well if "Whore" was a good film I would agree with you, but it wasn't.
I was expecting a very serious film about prostitution and I don't think
they knew what kind of film they wanted to make.  Teresa Russel talking
to the camera sure did help matters much either.  I couldn't take the
film that seriously at all.

George Cifrancis
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Subject: Re: howard's end...GYUCK!
From: mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Mark Hiro           Norman         )
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:32:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <JWA.92Sep11013931@vipunen.hut.fi> jwa@vipunen.hut.fi (Jyrki J Wahlstedt) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.92410.16926@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:

>> rcbi27@marshall.wvnet.edu (DBRUM) writes:
>> >Just saw HOWARD'S END. Gyuck! Drivel. Nothing to it. Beautifully filmed
>> >outline for a movie, but no real movie. I can't believe it got ****!
>> >
>> Don't believe this for a second. A very nice piece of work. It bops
>> right along and manages a very complicated plot without pausing for
>> breath. Very fine acting, particularly Vanessa Redgrave in a minor
>> role. 

>  Well!!! Better just have a look at it yourself. I saw it and I did
>  NOT like it! The characters were not credible, their actions (some
>  of them) were not credible AND I abhor movies with slow motion.

In fact, Forster's novels are generally accepted to portray a fair view of
society at that time (the Edwardian era). The movie is fairly faithful to
the novel, although not verbatim of course. Merchant Ivory certainly have
that period down pat now.
So perhaps it's your lack of understanding of society at that time, which
made you find it unbelievable?

>!	Jyrki Wahlstedt
>!		Jyrki.Wahlstedt@hut.fi


-- 
Mark Norman           | My university doesn't let me send email.
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From: billd@cray.com (Bill Davidson)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Organization: Cray Research Superservers Inc., San Diego CA, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:39:57 GMT

In article <715706444.7546.0@unix6.andrew.cmu.edu> Gaurang Hirpara <gh1r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Re: Winona playing Lucy 
> She's not. She plays Mina. Lucy gets offed early on in the book doesn't she?

It's true that Ryder plays Mina.

My copy of Dracula is 372 pages and Lucy dies on page 158 so her human
life ends just a little before the halfway point.  Her undead form gets
it on page 212, a bit after the halfway point.  Is that considered
early?

--Bill
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: EMBARRASSING:  JOE V VOLCANO??
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:25:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep4.001025.24164@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.SKW@forsythe.stanford.edu (Susan Wandling) writes:
>I can't remain silent any longer:  TWO of my all-time favorite
>comedies have been bashed on the "Really Embarrassing" thread.  All
>I can say is:  You just didn't get it!  "Planes Trains and Autos" is
>definitely Hughes' best, which may not be saying much, but how can
>you bash the Martin/Candy duo?  I've heard it said that the comedy
>was a bit mean-spirited, but that aside, it's a film I never tire of
>watching!!  Secondly, "Joe vs the Volcano."  Again, I think, a
>nearly great comedy.  Sure it's a joke once they get to the

Agreed.  Minus Abe Vigoda, great.  Loved the bit about "I know he can
GET the job, but can he DO the job?"  Also, "...and they spend their
entire lives in perpetual amazement!"    And the scene where Hanks
is close to dying of thirst and the moon rises up over the ocean.

Also, I liked Ishtar.  A lot!

GMS
From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: great voices
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:11:49 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany

abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky) writes:

>In article <BD.92Sep12110533@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>
>>lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
>>>Sidney Poitier!
>>
>>My god, he's a handsome man!  (and I say that as a hetero male).

>Moi aussi. And what's more, he seems ageless! I just saw him in "Sneakers"
 ^^^^^^^^^Isn't that boasting a little.
>and while Redford is showing some years, Poitier, except for being a
>little stockier than 30 years ago, seems to have had Father Time pass him
>by. I would guess he and Redford are about the same age, but he looks
>about 30 years younger in the film.

Lot's of actors have made pacts with the devil, you know: Fame, riches,
youthful looks -- in exchange for their soul afterwards. :-)


May the Cool Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: REALLLLLLY bad embarassing movies
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:25:46 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <18nr8aINNpid@network.ucsd.edu> ivy@chem.ucsd.edu (Ivy Blumberg) writes:
>
>I can't believe noone has mentioned "Pink Flamingos"
>Talk about revolting! 

Yeh, but by embarrassing I assumed that it was unexpectedly bad.



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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: pretty woman / Whore
Date: 15 Sep 1992 14:21:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Ellen Sasse writes:

>I went out and rented "Whore" on similar advice. I thought it would have
>been really good if they hadn't made Theresa Russell do that ridiculously
>over-exaggerated dubbing of the movie. It was as if she were doing the part
>and someone kept saying "no, too understated. More! I want more!" until it
>had gone far past the range of decent acting. She sounded like she was doing a
>comedy sendup or something. I *did* rent it from Blockbuster, is it
>possible there were two versions of this movie? Because her facial expressions
>and actions seemed right from what I remember, but the dialogue was buffoonish
>and it was very clear it had been looped. (And yes I know better than to
>get a movie associated with sex from Blockbuster but none of the other
>places in my area had it at all).                              

>Still, trying to "listen past" the campy vocal delivery, I thought the piece
>itself sounded very dark and ironic and jaded, a completely different tone.
>Can anyone tell me the book/play (?) it came from? I would like to read it.

>Ellen

Actually, there are three versions of this movie available on 
home video. It's part of a marketing ploy to boost video sales/
rentals. The article I read in_Entertainment Weekly_ awhile back
detailed each one, but my cloudy mind has forgotten already.
Anyway, I'm sure Blockbuster does not carry the most explicit
version. So I'm sure there were overdubs and cuts in the one
you watched.


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
From: ar619@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jaime Villacorte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jog shuttle wars (was Re: Heres on for you Alien freaks !)
Date: 15 Sep 1992 22:57:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar619@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jaime Villacorte)
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In a previous article, gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) says:
>>
>>	My favorite jog-shuttle discovery was stepping through the "Animato"
>>end-sequence in Mike Jittlov's The Wizard of Speed and Time. Talk about
>>subliminal messages! For a stretch of several seconds during the animation,
>>there was literally a small, slightly concealed, hand written message in
>>every frame. It helps to have a laserdisc copy of the movie (to get the
>>detail) and a player with digital freeze frame (the disc was CLV not CAV).
>
>	So, what, you're not going to leave us in suspense, are you?  What
>did it say?
>

	Unfortunately, I didn't write any of the phrases down...
perhaps someone in alt.fan.mike-jittlov has them all documented?

	Another nice movie to jog-shuttle is Robocop 2. There's a scene
in which newly added directives to Robocop's programming scroll
quickly off the screen. Unlike WoSaT, I remembered to write these down...


Directives (from chapter 9, side 1)
#	text
---	----
233	Restrain hostile feelings
234	Promote positive attitude
235	Suppress aggressiveness
236	Promote pro-social values
246	Don't rush traffic lights (repeated below)
254	Encourage awareness
256	Discourage harsh language
258	Commend sincere efforts
261	Talk things out
262	Avoid Orion meetings
266	Smile
267	Keep an open mind
268	Encourage participation
273	Avoid stereotyping
278	Seek non-violent solutions

	Also, another tidbit from this scene, (where Robocop being reprogrammed
	by Dr. Juilette Faxx). The following hex numbers scroll quickly
	up the screen:

		50 45 54 45 20 4B 55 52 41 4E 20 49 53
		20 41 20 47 52 45 41 54 20 47 55 59

	If you convert these to ascii text ( and who in the audience
	can't as it scrolls quickly off the screen in the theater ;-) )
	the phrase reads:

		P  E  T  E     K  U  R  A  N     I  S
		   A     G  R  E  A  T     G  U  Y

	After looking in the end credits, of the movie, one finds that
	Peter Kuran, VCE Inc. is credited with Special Effects Photography.

Directives (from chapter 11, side 2)
#	text
---	----
238	Avoid destructive behavior
239	Be accessible
240	Participate in group activities
241	Avoid interpersonal conflicts
242	Avoid premature value judgements
243	Pool opinions before expressing yourself
244	Discourage feelings of negativity and hostility
245	If you haven't got anything nice to say don't talk
246	Don't rush traffic lights
247	Don't run through puddles and splash pedestrians or other cars
248	Don't say that you are always prompt when you are not
249	Don't be oversensitive to the hostility and negativity of others
250	Don't walk across a ballroom door swinging your arms
-- 
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From: gregs@polari.online.com
Subject: Blade Runner, Director's Cut in Seattle
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:41:19 GMT

I've seen this topic thread about a million times in this group, but I've
never seen anything but "When does it come out?"  It looks like it's finally
coming out, but only in Seattle for the time being.  Why?  I don't know.
This from today's (Sunday) Seattle Times:

(Ad, Sec.J pg. 6) Sunday, Sept. 6 1992

Harrison Ford: Blade Runner _The_Director's_Cut_
"The original cut of the futuristic adventure"
(credits, etc.)
Starts Friday, Sept. 11th
Exclusive Seattle Engagement
at the Egyptian Theatre.

There's a blurb on the previous page to this effect:

"Blade Runner" A decade after Warner Bros. and The Ladd Company forced
directory Ridley Scott to add an upbeat ending and an unconvincing,
monotone narration by Harrison Ford, this science-fiction classic is
being released as Scott intended.  "The director's cut proves a revalation,"
wrote Todd McCarthy in Variety.  "The film is immeasurably superior in
this version on every possible level."

When they say "Exclusive Seattle engagement" I don't know if they really
mean it, and if they do for how long.  But I will go catch this version
and post a review on this newsgroup.  Guess the wait is finally over.

-- 
Gregory Sumner ~ Seattle, Washington  :: Not playin' the roll, just bein'   
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut Question -- Possible Spoiler
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:26:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep14.234818.27536@ichips.intel.com> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.222203.15954@news.columbia.edu>, egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>
>> The Unicorn scene, which is included in this cut, is a dream sequence
>> Dekard has when he's at the piano.  The unicorn is connected to the
>> origami unicorn that Gaff leaves at his door at the end of the film.
>> It is supposed to indicate that the dream Dekard has is actually an
>> implant.  Dekard is then a replicant (this arguably clinching proof;
>> there are other textual clues, such as the glowing eyes; the profusion
>> of photographs he has, just like Leon; Rachel asking him if _he's_
>> taken the V-K test, etc.)
>
>I hadn't bought the Deckard-as-a-replicant theory before, but after seeing
>this cut I'm more persuadable.  Another clue is that Deckard was able to
>reel off all of Rachel's childhood memories.  This could be because he's
>human and was briefed about the memories replicants are given, or it could
>be because his memories came from the same tape.
>
>On the other hand, he doesn't seem to have the same strength or pain
>tolerance as the known replicants.  

Neither does Rachel.  And remember Tyrell's comment to Roy about "the
flame that burns more brightly..."?  And why Rachel was special --
no termination date?  If Dekard is that "type" of replicant, he wouldn't
either (i. e., normal human span), and would be one of the wimpy
ones.

GMS
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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: REALLLLLLY bad embarassing movies
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:02:36 GMT


In article <191g8eINNjrt@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE>, hellmann@iowa.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Dirk Hellmann ) writes:
>       HUDSON HAWK - a big piece of SHIT. Silly Story. Bad Playing.
>

I liked this one... can't you just see a theif skateboarding past a
security guard and steal a priceless work of art... all the time
singing "Would you like to swing on a star..." :)

--
			   ||  "Some of it's magic...Some of it's tragic...
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From: ghost@netcom.Netcom.COM (Jay Adelson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut (possible *spoilers*?)
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:09:52 GMT
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Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service


The Blade Runner Director's Cut will be showing in the San Francisco 
bay area, I believe in Berkeley, on Friday, September 11th.

From what I have read/understand, Ridley Scott was just as surprised as
we are about it, and that he has agreed to the cut mainly because it
conforms to what his original intention was...not EXACTLY, and it wasn't
his hands which re-cut it, but nevertheless, a closer approximation.

Some things I'd expect in this cut would be (probably, not for sure):

1) The nixing of that STUPID voice over which was added right before the
   previous release.  I can't believe people were THAT confused.

2) The ending should probably be when the elevator doors shut.  I've heard
   this was his original intention, then in the theatrical release they
   threw in a scene from The Shining (or rather, some out-take helicopter
   footage over the Rockies for the beginning of The Shining) which Scott
   hated.  I don't know about you, but when the two of them (Harrison Ford
   and Sean Young) are driving away at the end, *I* felt it was a bit
   cheesy, especially with reflections of trees going by in the windows.
   I thought the car could fly?

As for other things I've heard, I'm not as sure about them, so I'll just
leave it till friday.  Would someone be kind enough to post something on
it?

Now the bugger of a question is:  Will Criterion release a director's cut
version on laser disc? Hmmmmm

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From: jejones@microware.com (James Jones)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:38:44 GMT

In article <65105@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
>and I still think there's something pretty special about
>his "Excalibur" too).

It's sort of vague in my memory now, but I think the folks I went to the
theater with to see *Excalibur* and I sort of lost our ability to take
the movie seriously early on, when Uther Pendragon was shown in flagrante
delicto...while in full armor.

	James Jones

(As for Most Embarrassing Movie, I'm not sure whether to cite *The Black
Hole* or *Gymkata*.  *Gymkata*, with the ersatz Mel Brooks as the Shah of
Parmistan ("Ah, my people!"), and with only three of us in the theater,
I guess wins out.)
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 007 Quiz-Answers...
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:04:41 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee) writes:

>3. Dr. No; From Russia With Love; Goldfinger; Thunderball; You Only Live
>   Twice; On Her Majesty's Secret Service; Diamonds Are Forever; Live and
>   Let Die; The Man With the Golden Gun; The Spy Who Loved Me; Moonraker;
>   For Your Eyes Only; Octopussy; A View To a Kill; The Living Daylights;
>   Licence To Kill....  16 movies

    Ever heard of "Never Say Never Again"? There are 17 Bond movies.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
	    "Egads! These look like a women's fingerprints"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Subject: Call 555-ACME : -)
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:05:07 GMT

Hey,

 could someone clue me in, what's the story behind 555 phone numbers and
the Acme Corporation. Registered trademarks of Hollywood? :-) They're
everywhere!

Juha Pehkonen
jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Sidney Poitier  (was Re: great voices)
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:22:38 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <95868@bu.edu>, abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky) writes:

> Moi aussi. And what's more, he seems ageless! I just saw him in "Sneakers"
> and while Redford is showing some years, Poitier, except for being a
> little stockier than 30 years ago, seems to have had Father Time pass him
> by. I would guess he and Redford are about the same age, but he looks
> about 30 years younger in the film.

It's even better than that...Redford is 55.  (born Aug. 18th, 1937)

Poitier turned 68 during the filming of _Sneakers_.

He was thrown a party by cast and crew, where they suprised him by singing
"To Sir With Love"...  Details in October's Premiere.

Greg Bole                               "Are you coming?  Yeah, well see the 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             train moves, not the platform."
                                       John Lovitz in _A Leauge of Their Own_
From: magnus@solaris.astro.uu.se (Magnus Selhammar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 14 Sep 1992 18:13:19 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
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Keywords: n

Robin Hood with Kevin Costner.

Magnus
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From: kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Sung Hyun Kim)
Subject: Re: Of Mice and Men
Keywords: movies, steinbeck, censure
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:13:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.191725.26527@b23a.b23a.ingr.com> alfa@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Laura Pina) writes:
>
>OK, so here's why it irks me so...
>
>But in the previews, I noticed that the old, semi-handicapped gentleman --
>the one with the old dog (I have no memory for detail; can't think of character's name) -- is white.  Wasn't he black in the book?  So what IS THE DEAL?
>I mean, if the movie is an attempt to fight censorship then why does it 
>propagate racism???
>
>Can someone help me understand?
>

Read the book couple weeks ago...so here goes the answer.
The man with the old dog is NOT black. There is another character who IS
black and has a room in the barn or something.

>
>~~~~~~ Laura (Pina) Walker ~~~~~~~~~~~ laura@alfa.b23a.ingr.com ~~~~~~~
>


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From: bart@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bart Gold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: pretty woman
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:12:57 GMT
Distribution: na,jp
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


     Earlier, I did nominate cape fear as most annoying in terms of just
being painful to watch, but i agree with Pretty Woman as the most overall
societally annoying film (everyone who loved that film should be made to
watch 'Whore', by ken russel)

    Garry Marshall's utopian whore-next-door vision was a complete revision
of the original script, in which the Laura San Giacomo character overdosed
at the end.

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