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From: rich.alexander@tfd.gwinnett.com (Rich Alexander) 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Lodging in Munich?
Date: 26 Dec 92 23:32:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Fifth Dimension - Louisville, KY - 502-423-8654
Reply-To: rich.alexander@tfd.gwinnett.com (Rich Alexander) 


HR||Will be in Munich for three days in early January on way back from
HR||Italy....anyone recommend a good pension/bed and breakfast there?
HR||Doesn't have to be fancy or expensive.

I managed to sleep pretty well on the Hofbrau House floor for free<g>.

-Rich

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From: Mike_Treloar@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Treloar)
Subject: Re: British Rail Schedules
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 07:08:12 GMT

        I was in England in Oct. Just before I went, I asked if someone could
send me a BR schedule. I gave the specifics of where I was going, and when,
and sure enough, a schedule arrived. If you can't get direct access to the
systems you want, perhaps you could ask for someone to send you a schedule,
or to post the schedule via e-mail.
        Good luck, and enjoy your trip.
        TTFN.
From: ercn72@festival.ed.ac.uk (R.J.Hare)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travel by merchant ship
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:34:35 GMT

Once upon a time, it was possible for travellers to move around the world as
passengers on commercial ships - such ships would have a passnger cabin or
two, and I guess that one could go to real out of the way places by this
method. I believe for example that the Geest company used to do this (and I
will be writing to them to check if they still do).

Does anyone out there know af any other shipping lines which (still?) do this?

Thanks.

Roger Hare.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: bwood@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (William Wood)
Subject: Re: Hotels in Florida Keys area...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:20:00 GMT

In article <ofEPOiC00iV3Q1CIl9@andrew.cmu.edu>, mk69+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Knapp) writes...
>Doesn't anyone get annoyed by these type of requests?  I mean, all you
>have to do is go to a local library, or AAA office, or even call an 800
>number to get this kind of information.  Are these poeple just stupid or
>lazy.  
> 
> 
>my opinion is that this net should not be cluttered with this type of
>info requests that asks for information readily available elsewhere (i
>mean key west is not exactly isolated!!!)
> 
>i will shut up now.
>mark

     Dear Mark,

<*>  Your point is well taken.  However, I know from my past experience
     as a librarian, many times I was pleasently surprised by strange 
     and authentic reasons why a person didn't know any  particular 
     'best way' to get specific information.  For example, maybe they
      were shut-in due to age/handicap/illness.  I had one person that
      came to my office all broke-down and upset, because they re-
      member an old (800) phone number for service/repair on their
      television.  They were surprised to learn that not only is there
      an 800 directory assistance, but also an 800 phone book avail-
      able.


     Some of the reasons may surprise even you!  For instance, do you
     ever notice how many times a person in VNEWS may wish for a res-
     pondant to contact him/her via landline.  Some reasons for this
     given, are varied!  They may/not have their own personal account.
     Or under such headings as Alt.Personals, I can't tell you how
     many times I've seen a request from someone wanting to know how
     to get a secret account.  And so on... I think I've expressed
     the point quite well.  Patience is not only a virtue, it's just
     a simple act of kindness.  I think YOUR talents here (agitation)
     might well be better directed towards those who flame folks
     just because they are under worked and over paid on their jobs.

     I guess with MY terminal, I can just hit the return and make a
     particular post "DISOLVE INTO THE TWILIGHT!"  If YOUR terminal
     doesn't have THIS feature, you may wish to NOT subscribe to a
     particular group that gets you so profoundly annoyed.  The al-
     ternative is to switch to decaf!

     Best regards,
     Bill


    P.S.

        If all else fails, give me hoot, and I'll be glad to refer
    you to a great place to get some R & R in Key West.



    [MOMMA TOLD ME TO STAY OUT OF THAT ROCKET, BUT BEING THE NAUGHTY
    KID I WAS, DADDY SAID TO "GO AND FLY INTO SPACE"...WHICH I DID!]
From: eric@npri6.npri.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Tourist Guide
Summary: my preference
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:05:29 GMT
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

In article <1h1kebINN3jo@DOLPHIN.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU>, yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan) writes:
> Do you usually read or bring with you a tourist guide/book when you travel
> (for pleasure)? If yes, which do you find useful or good?

For international (outside the US) I prefer Michelin--very good in-depth
info and maps. In planning a trip to England in '93, I found the
Frommer's guide most useful. I use AAA guidebooks for domestic travel.

> Do you find the info provided up to date? 
My Frommer's edition is current. I bought a AA (British) guide at my
AAA club, but it is 5 years out of date. My Michelin guide is a year old,
but I believe most of the info is still valid.

> Are the maps easy to read?
I wouldn't use Frommer's for navigation. The AAA map is marginal. My
AA London map has detail, but no street index. When I arrive in London,
I'll buy a regional map for touring. Michelin maps of towns and
historic area are great, not for driving but for walking & locating
places of interest.

> How do you find the suggested Accommodation, Restaurants?
Frommer's tries to find the best or most interesting hotels and
restaurants within different price ranges. I've used it almost
exclusively for accommodations.  I only have the green Michelin
guide (touring), not the red guide (accommodations), though I'm sure 
the latter contains an exhaustive list.

> And the suggested itenery? Day tours etc.
Both Frommer's and Michelin have suggested tours.

> Too much details? 
One can never have too many details!

-------- eric@npri.com ---------- or ---------- ...uunet!uupsi!npri6!eric -----
               "All things that love the sun are out of doors..."               
Eric C. Williams/ NPRI/ Alexandria, VA/ USA/ (703) 683-9090/ Usual disclaimers.
From: kim@eeyore.cs.unc.edu (Desok Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: New Orleans, Louisiana
Keywords: Places, Food, People, etc
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:36:19 GMT

Hello Netters,
I am planing to visit New Orleans really soon, maybe 
during the New Year Day.
Any travel lovers to tell me about places, food, and
people in New Orleans that I must not miss? 
Any details on music places and sea food restaurants
are welcome. Please respond to me in e-mail.
My e-mail address:

                 dkim@bme.unc.edu
Thanks,
Desok


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Yosemite Park Accommodation
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:25:51 GMT

In article <BzH1tC.9xC@encore.com>, jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich) writes:
> In article <lj26bjINNhcb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, tab@creek.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom
> Booth) writes:
> > 
> > About half an hour out of the valley you can stay at
> > The Wawona - also old, nice looking but I have 
> >              never been inside                    $60
> 
>   I've stayed there several times. They have various
>   accommodations.  There is the main hotel building that also
>   contains the restaurant, lobby with big woodburning
>   fireplace and sitting area. (They have a piano player there
>   some nights and everyone sits around listening, singing,
>   reading, playing chess/checkers).  Very relaxed.  No televisions. 
>   There is the annex building containing hotel rooms with private 
>   baths (tubs have the claw feet), and there are cottages 
>   (actually small houses) that I've never been in.
> 
    The rest of my Wawona description deleted.

    I just thought of something.  Unless they've changed
    policy, the Wawona is closed for most of the winter.  I
    think it closes after Thanksgiving and then reopens for
    several weeks around Christmas.  It closes again for the
    rest of the winter.

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From: ocallagh@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher O'Callaghan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Ferry Service - Cork (EIRE) <-> Cherbourg (FR) ?
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:58:17 GMT
Reply-To: ocallagh@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher O'Callaghan)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


Would some kind soul be able to provide me with information
regarding sailing times and range of prices for passenger
(not auto) travel along this route?

Many thanks

Chris O'Callaghan
ocallagh@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: smith@jupiter.jsc.nasa.gov (damon smith 283-4050)
Subject: Skiing Steamboat Springs, Colorado
Organization: McDonnell Douglas - Houston
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:21:58 GMT

I am going to Steamboat Springs, Colorado in mid March for a few days of 
skiing.  I'd like to know about other attractions, good restaurants, etc.
that are there.  I here there is a sleigh ride out to a U.S. reserve for
elk.  That sounds pretty fun.  Any information will be appreciated.


-- 
Damon
From: snag@mipos2.intel.com (ITS MERELY A SNAG)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travelling with EURAIL PASS
Summary: EURAIL PASS
Keywords: EURAIL
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:06:05 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA



Hi folks,

I am interested in making a trip to Europe and use the
EURAIL PASS to get around. While I gather information
about it (rates/schedules etc.) from the usual sources
(travel Agents,book-stores,AAA), I will very much 
appreciate some notes/commects/recommendations from
personal experinces from people who have done this in
the past.

I will try and monitor the net but if you can send me mail
directly to snag@mipos2.intel.com that will be more
helpful.

Thanks,
Shubho
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From: tom@varian.com (tom cao)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: Re: Need info on trips to Paris, France in 1993
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:27:51 GMT
Organization: Varian Chromotography Systems

>My 10th wedding anniversary is coming up in July 1993, and I'd like to take 
my >wife on a 5 to 7 day trip to Paris and environs. I'd appreciate any 
	congratulations! but you mess up the statistics. Here in CA, one of
	3 marriages ends up in divorce in the first 5yrs. Perhaps too many
	lawyers here.

>2.     Any suggestions on options to expensive hotels, such as romantic bed
>and breakfasts in or around Paris? Anyone have contacts over there in terms of
	don't stay in Paris proper, noisy, crowded etc... 
	Stay south of Paris around the Chateau de Fontainebleau, very 
scenic and romantic. Look up	the accomodations in the guide. Don't drive 
in Paris, drive to the	nearest regional trainstation for Paris.
From: ahgrabow@apgea.army.mil (Alexander H. Grabowski <ahgrabow>)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Charleston, SC - repost, please!
Date: 23 Dec 92 13:38:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: APG-Edgewood



Hi,

a couple of months ago somebody posted a very interesting summary
about Charleston, SC.

I downloaded it and then it kind of went into the black hole :-).

So, PLEASE, could whoever posted it please re-send it to me by e-mail
or repost it?

Help is greatly appreciated.

Alexander

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From: marka@dsinet (Mark Anacker)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Travel in Former Soviet Union
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:01:57 GMT
Organization: Digital Systems International, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Kevin W. Plaxco (kwp@wag.caltech.edu) wrote:
> What's happening in the former soviet union?  Anyone have any 
> idea what the visa and travel regulations are?  Do the pertinent
> embassies have any idea?  Which embassies are the appropriate ones?

> I'm trying to research a trip from Turkey, through the Ukraine to 
> Moscow, and then south-east to Kazahkstan and into China. I've 
> heard from several folks who've done some part or another of this
> trip, but almost all of them traveled with Russian companions as
> invited guests.  Anyone have any idea if truely independent travel
> is possible?  Do I need to finagle an invitation?  Do intourist prices
> still hold, or all all prices locally set?  There isn't a Kazahkstani 
> embassy in the US, and the Russian consulate won't answer the phone.
> Can you help me?

> -Kevin

A couple of notes, since I just got back from a month in the Ukraine (and other
places):

When going from the Ukraine to Moscow, you'll need a visa issued by the
*Russian* embassy.  The Ukrainian OVIR office was selling visas to Moscow,
which the Russian are flatly rejecting (with a $250 fine for illegal entry).
The Russian embassy in Kiev is only open for a few hours in the morning a
few days of the week - check ahead or get you visa before you leave home).

The Ukrainian part of Aeroflot has cut back flights drastically in wake of
the gas shortage - with *no* flights between Kiev and Moscow.  In fact, as of
December, they were only flying within the Ukraine.  This may change after
Jan. 1, but for right now the only way to fly is to use a foreign airline
and transit through another capitol like Bucharest.

Of course, you could always go by train (2.5 days from Kiev to Moscow).  And
you CAN get a visa to visit Moscow without an invitation, but it's not
especially easy.

-- 
Mark Anacker				...{!dsinet,!toybox}!marka
Digital Systems International, Inc.	Redmond, WA   USA    (206) 881-7544
"We have a massive leadership vacuum in this country...
    and we need to change bags" - Sen. Belfry
From: hrcoord@igc.apc.org (Human Rights Coordinator)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Lodging in Munich?
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:12:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1460300133:000:187
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Dec 21 15:12:00 1992


Will be in Munich for three days in early January on way back from
Italy....anyone recommend a good pension/bed and breakfast there?
Doesn't have to be fancy or expensive.

thanks,
Debra
From: holzman@ipld01.hac.com (Barry I Holzman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Alaska Canoeing
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:57:15 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company - Canoga Park, CA

Keywords: 

I met a couple recently who did a canoe trip through a wilderness region of
Alaska by Canoe. Apparently, there are outfits which rent you the canoe and
fly you, supplies, and the canoe several hundred miles up a river and you make
your way back. Has anyone done this or know anything about it - outfit names,costs,
, etc?


	barry holzman
	
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Lodging in NYC
Keywords: NYC
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:31:07 GMT

daisy@iastate.edu (Daisy M Tang) writes:
>I'm going to NYC right after the New Year and plan to stay there 
>for 2 weeks.

kanazawa@cs.ubc.ca (Keiji Kanazawa) writes:
>
>Does anybody know a nice place to stay for 2-3 weeks for cheap in
>New York City or vicinity?  By cheap, I mean less than $50 a night.

An alternative to the YMCA and the new IYH on Amsterdam Avenue is The
International House, a graduate dormitory run by a private foundation.
It's on the Upper West Side, right next door to Columbia University
with easy access to subways (and, I live there).

For short term stays*, the rate is $25/night but the arrangements are
very spartan but very secure (I don't know if the Vanderbilt or Sloan
YMCA's are air-conditioned (we're not); that's very important for the
summer here!).  Deluxe rooms are available at ~$60-80/night, with air
conditioning, cable television and private bathroom.  A $50 damage
deposit (refundable at check-out) is required.

Be sure to specify that you are looking for short-term housing and
include dates in your request.  There are also long-term rates.*
One added benefit is their Programs Office, which supplies not only
tourist information but a lot of insider tips and sometimes freebie
tickets to a few events.  Regular year residents are another source
to find out about the "real" New York.

As for YMCA, I don't think there would be problems with the Vanderbilt
YMCA on the East Side or with the new Int'l Youth Hostel on Amsterdam
Avenue.

The address for International House of New York is:

	Admissions Office
	International House
	500 Riverside Drive
	New York, New York
	USA	10027-3916

	(212) 316-8436
	FAX: 212-316-1827

	(212) 316-8400 (central switchboard)

Oh yeah ... cash or travellers' cheques only.  American Express is
accepted for the deluxe rooms; otherwise ... No credit cards.

* The current rate schedule is:

	1-14 days	$25/day
	15-30 days	$18/day
	1 month		$14-$18/day (depending on the room)
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From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Weather Info for Ireland in March Needed
Keywords: Ireland, weather
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:56:29 GMT
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

--
In article <1992Dec23.054126.20159@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Michael.Bohl@launchpad.unc.edu (Michael Bohl) writes:

|>I am traveling to Ireland over St. Patricks Day.  I've never been there
|>before.  I understand that the weather will most likely be cool and damp,
|>but I can find no info in any of my literature describing just how cool it
|>will be.  Should I expect highs in the 30's, 40's, or something else?  Any
|>suggestions on clothing would be very much appreciated.

You might be a little disappointed as we don't celebrate St Patrick's
day as much as you do in the United States.  Apart from that you should
really enjoy the trip.  This is a beautiful country but then I'm biased.

There's a saying that if you don't like the weather in Ireland wait 5
minutes.  In March it should be in the 40s/50s - might be a little
higher if you're lucky.  It rains quite a bit here on the west coast
but the East coast is drier.  I'd suggest sweaters and raingear.


       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

  On being a football fan: "I am aware of the downside to this wonderful 
  facility that men have: they become repressed, they fail in their 
  relationships with women,their conversation is trivial and boorish, they 
  find themselves unable to express their emotional needs, they cannot relate
  to their children, and die lonely and miserable. But you know, what the hell?"
								   Nick Hornby 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Kamil Maheshwari)
Subject: MULTI-OPTIONAL Air Ticket For SALE
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:08:25 GMT



===============================================================

I have a multi-optional ticket on North West Airlines which is
fully transferable. You can use this ticket(s) anytime you want.
There are no black out dates. Therefore they're good for last 
minute travel plans. It is good for atleast a year.
This is what its good for:


	    ONE roundtrip ticket to Europe (any time)

			      OR

	TWO roundtrip tickets anywhere in the continental U.S.

			      OR

	FOUR one-way tickets anywhere in the continental U.S.


For the options and freedom of flying at the last minute this
ticket will go to anyone offering $800 or more (obo). Please
reply ONLY if you're serious and with your offer. I'd reply 
within reasonable time.

kamil@alumni.cs.colorado.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: phil@BofA.com (Phil Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Discounted Tickets in San Francisco 
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 23:12:20 GMT

I've had a lot of luck purchasing discounted tickets on major
carriers for international flights out of San Francisco from
the woman listed below. I know she handles domestic tickets, also, but  
I've never purchased one. 

	Violetta Yarosh
	Let's Travel
	(415) 397-4715

I don't have any financial interest here, except that I've done business
with her for six years and maybe if I send her more business ... :-)

Good luck & good traveling.

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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.penpals
Subject: Re: Looking for people familiar with Amstredam
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:04:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <BETSYS.92Dec24184544@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>I spent four days in Amsterdam this summer and every single person I
>met spoke English. I think it is a required course in their secondary
>schools.   Certainly everyone you will meet as a tourist will speak 
>English.
>  Amsterdam is a beautiful city. The red light district is sleazy and
>full of drug-users, 

You say that as if it's a bad thing?
 
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