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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul29.160120.10156@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, 
crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes...

>>In article <7123569413051@neptune.mcs.anl.gov>, deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov 
>>(Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer) writes...
> 
>>>For one thing, I think the new First Officer should be a woman.  All of
>>>the senior officers in *Command* are male:  Picard, Riker, Data, Geordi, and
>>>Worf.  The only 2 female bridge officers are a counselor and a doctor:  both
>>>are in "caring" roles.  Don't get me wrong; I think that Dr. Crusher and Troi
>>>are fine characters, but I would like to see a woman in a command role.  
>>>After
>>>all, this is the 24th century; with all their talk about equality, don't you
>>>think the bridge crew should reflect those values?
>>> 
> 
>Oh no!!!  Not more quotas.  PCism strikes TNG once again.  Next someone will
>complain that there are no hispanics on the E.  (Of course, that may be
>explained by saying that they were all killed in the second holocaust of the
>Eugenics Wars or something like that.)
> 
>Come off it.  We don't need to worry about the gender of the major officers.
>Just hire the best person (actor/actress) for the job and forget about it.
> 

i don't think it is a question of being PC. it is more a question of putting 
its money where its mouth is. i mean if they have said countless times that 
women are no longer considered to be lesser, then why not follow through? 
there are many MANY talented actresses that could foot the bill, i'm sure.
it just smacks a bit of hypocrisy.  i think most women would agree.  :)

 sandra g. + illustrator-for-hire, buffalo ny + v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: pluther@percy.rain.com (Pat Luther)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: what data is building... spoilers???
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:42:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: percy.1992Jul22.044257.10010
Organization: Percy's mach, Portland, OR

v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:

>i know this has been hashed to death, but my boyfriend brought up something i 
>don't recall seeing before... pardon me if i'm out of place...


>as we watched TA1 (he was seeing it for the first time) i was giving him a 
>running narrative of the .current discussion. most specifically, what data is 
>building.  he said that he thinks it is the hand-held thing that helped him 
>to phase out in the first place (technical name eludes me), the thing that 
>dropped out of his hand onto the rock. i tend to think this is what it is as 
>well.

I'm not sure about that, what *I* was half-expecting him to say when asked
was that he was endevouring to build a mnemonic circuit out of stone knives
and bearskins....

					??pat

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From: lalombard@amherst.edu
Subject: Re: Newthread: TNG Fashion
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst Mass.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:22:04 GMT


	Shouldn't that heading be "NewThreads:TNG Fashion" ?
                                            ^
	Just a thought. . . 
Lisa
---
	Lisa Lombard
	lalombard@amherst.edu
Neuroscience major still trying to figure out how they removed Spock's brain...
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From: goodwin@orionsci (Ben Goodwin)
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Reply-To: goodwin@orionsci.UUCP (Ben Goodwin)
Organization: Orion Scientific, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:50:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.001818.13454@u.washington.edu> rene@hardy.u.washington.edu (Rene Magritte) writes:
>
>>
>>In addition, Riker has been literally begged to take the big chair (how many
>>times -- 3?).  Plus, he is also seen as a mega hero (after all he was in
>>command of the ship that wasted the Borg).
>>
>
>	I'd characterize Riker as "adventurous" and "bold", but I'd be
>hesitant to describe him as a "great hero" or even a "great leader."
>In my opinion, Riker has boffed things badly on a number of occasions.
>Think to his actions in Darmok, and (less disasterously) in The Inner
>Light.  Riker lacks the experience to know when to be patient.   

Excuse me?  Let's run these two scenarios through from Riker's perspective,
not the armchair "I know its trek and I get to watch all scenes"
perspective.

1)  You are going to meet these new people of which you know little and
upon meeting they kidnap your captain, beam him to a planet with their
own captain, sheild the planet, and fire on your shuttle craft when you
try to interfere.  

You are able to sense that a battle is going on down there and there is
a good chance that your captain is going to be killed.  You have no idea,
since you are riker not a tv viewer, that the reason for the *kidnapping*
was to facilitate communication.

What do you do?  Oh, gee, I'll just sit patiently on the ship and explain
to StarFleet how I let my captain be kidnapped and killed.  No problem
Yea right!

2) Some little probe fires this ray which puts the captain in a coma.
You don't know what's going on, because you're Riker not a tv viewer,
so you send for the doctor and try to find out what the halibats happening.
Finally you are told that you can cut off the beam that is sustaining the
captain's coma.  What would you do?  Gee, I assume that its a communication
device rather than a brain washing device or a brain sucking device.  I
wait patiently.

Sorry, but those are two examples of Riker doing the absolute right thing.
What would Picard have done differently?  Nothing.


> 
>  	The writers have been fair to Frake's character, but I'd
>hardly say they've painted a glowing portrait....

I think they paint Riker as a young man on the fast track.  If it wasn't
for the fact that Frakes likes to work, he'd probably be captain of
an Excelsior class, just waiting for a Galaxy at this point.  And the
Borg episode has definitely made him a hero to the Federation.  He
could probably ask for and get any command he wanted.  But Frakes likes
working.

You know I stopped reading this group when the season ended.  I just
looked in it today and the exact same threads still exist. Troi's a
babe etc...

Come to think of it, shouldn't most of these threads be in misc not
current?  Not trying to be a net.monitor or anything but...
-- 

-Ben
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From: wilhited@brahms.udel.edu (Douglas Ben Wilhite)
Subject: Re: New Characters (splitting up the crew?)
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: canada,usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:19:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.232009.13151@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> p5ku@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (BAMFORD) writes:
>
>	Actually, I always wondered what ST:TNG would be like if they turned
>it into a "St. Elsewhere" or "L.A. Law" type format, i.e. multiple
>subplots which continue from week to week.  If the Enterprise crew
>got split up, this could possibly be a good way to follow them.  
>
>	Ideas? Opinions? 16 ton weights?
>

16 ton weights.

many of them.

doug
.

From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:16:02 GMT
Subject: Re: TROI IS A DOG AND SHOULD BE SHOT!!!!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
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Here Ace...here boy...


       BAMB!!!!

Wow, them double barrel shotguns really pack quite a wollup.


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From: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Emmy Nominations for NE, QL and ST: TNG
Reply-To: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 12:35:02 GMT


In a previous article, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) says:

>>COL was a good fantasy with the flair and style of a Wizard of OZ. LWAXANA was
>>finally likable. 
>
>>The holodeck planet was a standout as an interesting new
>>world/culture. Let's give COL a fresh look.
>
>If I thought it actually warranted a second viewing, I would have
>already.  In the end, it comes down to this: CoL was the Star Trek V of
>TNG.

Agreed.  Sounds like major butt-kissing-let's-say-something-positive-
even-though-we-don't-mean-it attitude I find so repugnant.  It makes
me want to slap someone.  :)
-- 

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: deep space nine
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:16 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>I always thought it was "Klinzai", but I can't remember from where.  A book,
>I think.

Around here in Canada I know Klinzai as the Windows 3.1 True Type Font.
Klinzai is the Klingon character font and is used in their nice
triangular writings.


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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:21:08 GMT

In article <keRByxG00aw_IJ7k0l@andrew.cmu.edu> Ritesh Agarwal Bansal <rb64+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|
|Maybe Spock saw in Holmes the only human who was a true follower of
|Surak, who had mastered his emotions and was a master of reasoning and
|hence logic.  So Spock might have alluded to Holmes being his ancestor
|in that manner.  its a long shot but its my .005 credit worth!


Orrrr, maybe Spock IS a descendent of Sherlock Holmes.  I mean, they're both
fictional characters, after all.  :-)


			Dave Svoboda, Palatine, IL
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From: smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon)
Subject: RE: Emmy Nominatations
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 21 Jul 1992 07:19 EST  

(in references to Emmy nominations list...)

Dont tell me that -> Cost of Living <- has TWO nominations?!

Dont these people ever read r.a.s.c?


(sure, they're only in makeup and hairdressing, but still...;)

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From: edjans01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (David Jansing)
Subject: Re: Friendly little poker games?
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:13:44 GMT

I would hate to dreg this thread up somemore, but it seems to me that the
original lines of thought are just plain silly.  Geordie can't see through
things, he can only see their EM signature (Ref. "The Enemy" and that other
episode where they connected a transitter to his VISOR so that the bridge
crew could see what was going on around the away).  Now, if each card had
a seperate signature and he could memorize each signature (a really boring
and time-consuming venture for the Chief Engineer), then he would be able
to see what was in everyone's hand.

Data wouldn't cheat (like stacking the deck, etc.), simply because he is
unable to lie (Ref. "The Most Toys").  Also, he was beaten by the Zaxdorn
in the game Stratgema (Ref. The episode where Riker and Picard play-
battle it out in the Hathaway and the Enterprise, only to be distracted and
threated by Feringi).  So Data would not win all the time.  Just as Picard
said, it is possible to make all of the right moves and still lose.  I think
that Data would be more interested in the educational aspect of the game,
how humans interact and chose the cards, that sort of thing.

Just my little addition to this already goofy thread.

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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: DS9 and Babylon 5
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:34:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.133240.27560@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.021910.3873@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>>
>>Well, I just hunted for this group today after hearing rumours of the
>>Deep Star 9 series that was to start up soon.
>>
>>After looking around on here, I noticed references to Babylon 5, which I 
>>have never heard of before.
>>
>>Questions:
>>
>>1. When is DS9 proposed to start?
>>2. Is Babylon 5 also in the Star Trek theme?
>
1) First of all it is Deep Space Nine and it will air in Jan. '93 with a two
   hour premere.
2) Apparently B5 was discussed first, but not many people know about it.  Here,
   on the net, it is much more popular, and debated than in the real world.
   Anyway, B5 came about by Warner and has been in the works for about 4 years.
e
 
e
>>3. Why don't we see Q anymore?
>
3) In the 5th season there weren't any really good scripts, but in the sixth
   there is at least on and maybe 2 that we will see..>
>
>>4. Will there ever be a Star Trek movie that doesn't include Kirk, Bones,
>>   Spock, and the likes of the old crew?  Why beat a dead horse?  Paramont
>>   has a nice set up going here... I want to see more!
>
4) No one knows for sure, but there is talk of both a STVII with the old crew
   as well as a STVII with younger old crew people (including Christian 
   Slater as Kirk).  Also there is rumor of TNG movies, but no contracts
   have been signed as of yet.

Hope this helps and I hope that I am not entering these messages wrong.  If 
anyone notices the wrong header or anything that I am doing that is improper
or just incorrect please let me know, I am new here....
From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Replacing Picard, Data, & Worf
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:31:11 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

>In article <14703@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>> OK, a topic for a new thread...
>> 
>> What would the series be like if these characters were to depart?
>> Who would be brought on board as new officers?  How would plots,
>> relationships, the command structure of the Enterprise be affected
>> by a re-shuffled cast?
>> 
>> Think about it.  Picard, Data, and Worf gone.  O'Brien and family 
>> already departing.  Who does that leave? [stuff deleted]

I'll tell you who it doesn't leave -- me!

>> Captain Riker, obviously,

Aaaaauuugh!

Just shoot me and put me out of my misery!

>> but what other regulars are left?  LaForge.  Beverly Crusher.  Troi.
>> Maybe Ro Laren.  Maybe even Wesley.  Is it just me, or does this cast
>> need something new added?

How about a funeral?  If we're going to get rid of cast members, at
least get rid of the dead weight!  How about we get rid of Lwaxand Troi,
Deanna Troi, Will Riker, Wesley Crusher, and Alexander?  Getting rid of
Picard and Data is liking throwing away two aces in an attempt to fill
an inside straight.


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Subject: Re: Star Trek heaven
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:29:41 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <30JUL199214353705@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov>, smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon) writes:
> In article <1992Jul30.152232.6535@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller) writes...
>> bbarber@sierra.com writes:
>> 
>>>Here in Dallas, aka Star Trek Heaven, we get 1 TOS and 12 TNG episodes per 
>>>week. This is clearly the most favorable Star Trek viewing location that 
>>>I have ever lived.
>> 
>>Ha!  Here in Toronto we get Star Trek even more!
>> 
>>12 TNG episodes and at least 3 TOS episodes.
>> 
>>Mon.     2 TNG
>>Tues.    2 TNG
>>Wed.     2 TNG
>>Thrus.   2 TNG
>>Fri.     3 TNG
>>Sat.	 1 TNG   +   3 TOS
>>Sun.	 0  :-(
>> 
>>I think that there even may some TOS episodes late at night
>>during the week, I can't remember.
>> 
>>Anyway, who has time to watch all of these?
>>At least we can pick and choose which one to watch.
>> 
>>Does anyone get more than this?
> 
> In toledo, we can get it mucho times, thanks to Detroit, Toronto, and Cleveland!
> Toledo -- 7times a week
> Cleveland - 2 times
> Toronto - 5 times
> Detroit - 2? times
> ----------------
> at least 16 times a week!
> 

Hmm... in Oxford, we get it quite a bit:

	CH. 19 -- 7 times a week at 11:30 (reruns)
	CH. 45 -- 7 times a week at 7:00 (reruns)
	CH. 19 -- 2 times a week (weekly new episode)
	CH. 45 -- 1 time a week (weekly new episode)

	plus,

	CH. 45 -- TOS, 7 times a week at 12:00

that makes 24 hours of Star Trek a week.  It's a wonder I get anything done.


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>       //         | Senoir, Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Toledo
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From: mmadsen@eecs.umich.edu (Martin Madsen)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Organization: University of Michigan
	<weQfEIi00WBLM1OVIv@andrew.cmu.edu>
	<1992Jul27.123721.29050@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
	<1992Jul27.182033.7422@bnlux1.bnl.gov> <70588@apple.Apple.COM>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:09:52 GMT

In article <70588@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

>>As a Visionary of the Future, I strongly resent your comments!  Clearly,
>>you are not Of the Body.  You must be expunged.

>Resistance is useless.

	WE are more powerfull and WE will win.


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From: doc@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey Smith)
Subject: Re: Who was the guy in Star Trek 6???
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:11:40 GMT

falatic@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MacGyver) writes:


>	Who was the actor who played the Klingon Warrior in Star Trek
>6? The guy with the eyepatch, and the shakespearian quotes? 
>		Please reply via E-Mail
>		-Marty
>			falatic@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

Christopher Plummer.

Romana: "I thought you said we were coming here for May week?"
Doctor: "I did, May week's in June."
	                **Shada and The Five Doctors**
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From: hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Character Poll Results
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:43:01 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Jul22.211837.25371@cvgs.schools.virginia.edu> tbrown@cvgs.schools.virginia.edu (Travis Brown) summarizes:

>Here are the results for which you have all been so patiently
>waiting. My thanks to all who have participated:

(To quote an obnoxious secretary character from SNL {that's Sat. Night Live :) }

"And this would be regarding ..... ??"

				James Willer, e-mail to jmw1388@cs.rit.edu
				aka hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu
"If there's nothing wrong with me....

...there must be something wrong with the universe!!" B. Crusher, _Remember_Me_
From: deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:18:24 GMT
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois

In article <0eRd_Dy00UhW01K_AA@andrew.cmu.edu> Bryan Michael Kearney <bk1a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>
>Now, if I am correct, does not Troi hold equal rank with that of Data? I
>dont know where the doctor fits in, but at least Troi is a senior
>Officer (assuming that Data is, and assuming that data is a man).
>
>-- bk
Yes, but not in the COMMAND structure.  Crusher and Troi are both medical,
and they will never have the opportunity to command a starship, no matter
how far they advance in rank.

******************
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From: mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (plain)
Subject: Re: Poor man's cloaking device
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:02:19 GMT

wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson) writes:


>If you were a lowly trader out in space, and you weren't as
>well off as Starships, what would use for a cloaking device
>to evade pirates and such?

>Someone suggested painting the ship black.  Nice touch, but
>I think if you added the reflective star stickers, it would
>be much better.

>A possible alternative is putting bushes all over the ship,
>so people might be fooled into thinking it's some sort of
>space bush, not life as we know it.
>-- 

simple, make it look like a meteor or some other bit of space
rock.  Of course, another ship might just decide to blow
you out of space for target practice or because they don't
like pesky meteors, oh well. . .
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Subject: Re: Love that counselor
From: kenw@anasaz (Ken Wilkerson)
Date: 13 Jul 92 21:11:40 GMT
Reply-To: kenw@qip.UUCP (Ken Wilkerson)
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Az

In article <plp1.710635608@Ra.MsState.Edu> plp1@Ra.MsState.Edu (pat parker) writes:
>
>Troi (the character) is wonderful, one of the most promising characters
>on the show.  You really can't blame the poor, imaginary girl just
>because the writers who write her parts are clueless.
>
>pat
>
>
Yes you can! If see was a serious actress she would complain to the directors,
writers and producers until she got some decent lines.

Ken