From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: AP make FSU #3
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:11:50 GMT

kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:

>In article <BxvDzq.4Mr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>>jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:
>>
>>>News-Software: NN 6.4.16
>>
>>>AP
>>
>>>1. Miami
>>>2. Alabama
>>>3. FSU
>>>4. Texas A&M
>>
>>>FSU jumps over Texas A&M, with a blow out with Tulane.
>>
>>>Well the polls MO POINTS rule raises it's ugly head again.  With FSU and
>>>Bama both playing Florida, it will be a shootout for MO POINTS. The most
>>>POINTS could get the #2 spot. Both Bama and FSU will be taken out the big 
>>>stick for Florida.  Florida will not go down without a fight, and Spur's
>>>throwing his visor many times.
>>
>>>Florida could still win the SEC by beating Bama.  But, right now it looks
>>>like gator hunting season.
>>
>>>Texas A&M is not happy about the AP polls, but are still in the race.   
>>>Unless, FSU makes it to #2 and meets Miami in the Fiesta.
>>
>>Would Miami play fsu again,  they have nothing to gain from it the way I see
>>it.  They beaten them once, why should they have to have a rematch.  They
>>should go on to an another UNBEATEN team.  Then they can prove or disprove
>>how good the other unbeatens are.  No reason to rehash old games.
>>
>>Todd

>As I have stated in a previous post, both Miami and FSU would _love_ to play
>each other again. Why? Simple, because almost without exception, the FSU-Miami
>game is one of, if not _the_ best game of the year. Players, coaches, and fans
>of both teams love to watch the two teams go at each other. Both teams are
>very evenly matched, with similar talent, defense, and offense. The games are
>almost always down to the wire (excluding 84 and 88, when each team clobbered
>the other) and are extremely exciting and emotional. If there is a rematch in
>the Fiesta, it would not be a "rehash", as you call it, but rather what would
>probably be the best bowl game in the last decade. Besides, by the time the
>bowls make thier choises this year, there may not be any other undefeated 
>teams left for Miami to play, or Miami may not be undefeated (though this I
>highly doubt). You also state that Miami would have nothing to gain from
>such a rematch. This is quite wrong. If FSU is reanked second in the country,
>and Miami were to defeat them in the bowl game, then this would be "proof"
>that they are deserving of the NC (though I would rather have a playoff system
>myself).

They have nothing to gain because they have already beaten them.  I would
call it ducking if they skip out on a team they have not beaten to play
one they have.(this excludes any coalition rules, etc. if the coalition has
no rules to allow outs because of rematches, then Miami would have no choice.)

>>
>>(And to think I used to like fsu, even during the CB last year.:(:( )
>>

>Why, exactly, do you _not_ like FSU this year? Is it because some twitty
>journalist has placed them ahead of TAMU? Seems senseless to all of the
>sudden stop liking one of the most genuinely exciting football teams in the
>country because of what someone else has done or said. Don't blame FSU for
>the actions of others.

Most of my dislike comes from the sudden blurb of fsu posters who suddenly
think they should be #1 or #2 in the nation with other unbeaten teams around.

The over rankedness of a team will show thru on Jan. 1.  I've heard that
if things end up:

1.  Miami
2.  Bama
3.  fsu
4.  TAMU

Which would indicate a Miami/Bama game and a fsu/TAMU game, fsu would
probably not attend due to last year.  That, my friend, I would call
ducking.  The source for this is second hand out of a paper somewhere, so
take at as is, rumor.

What do the fsu supporters say about another Cotton Bowl??

Todd

>>>One thing for sure the bowl alliance is working.  But, we still need a
>>>playoff system, this MO POINTS rule sucks.

>Kevin