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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:47:42 CDT
From:         grc@ITS.NLC-BNC.CA
Subject:      A new list devoted to access?

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

Among the many topics discussed on PACS-L, the one I find most useful is
information resources available on the Internet--those occasional messages
about the location of the latest version of Internet resource documents, new
or useful FTP, WAIS, or CWIS sites, and other information about the how-to's
and where-to's of accessing information on the Internet.

This word-of-mouth discourse seems like a good topic for a separate
discussion list--one devoted specifically to announcing the latest
find on the Internet, or the most recent addition to its burgeoning
resources, as well as tips and strategies on Internet use. With so many
people exploring the Internet separately, shouldn't there be one place to
share what's been found? Has anyone thought about setting something like this
up? Is it a good idea? Does it exist, and I just haven't heard about it?

G. Cleveland
National Library of Canada
GRC@its.nlc-bnc.ca
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:33:44 CDT
From:         "WRIGHT, CAROL" <C1W@PSULIAS.BITNET>
Subject:      request for testimonials

Please respond to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
As part of a presentation on the Internet in which I'd like to include
testimonials from practitioners, I'm soliciting comments on how the
Internet has impacted your work patterns, how it facilitates your
activities and any other insights you'd be willing to share.  Brief, even
one-liner responses are appreciated, although longer reflections will be
welcome as well.  I'll summarize if the response warrants.  Thanks.

       Carol Wright
       Penn State University Libraries
       c1w@psulias.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:31:58 CDT
From:         CGOODSON@UGA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Subject Access for Gopher

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:38:43 CDT Public-Access Computer Systems Forum said:
>To somewhat summarize my responses:  The PACS-L replies were very negative
>on LCSH.  However, the private E-mail I got was positive on LCSH.  If anybody
>has any idea as to why the response was this way, I would LOVE to know.  I
**this is my guess: fear of criticism from tomorrow-leaning members of the list
LCSH is a rather *traditional* approach, and those of us who favor it (count
me in) don't wish to be viewed as reactionaries.  Although LCSH has its
limitations, it is familiar;  I believe the term I used in my private message
on this subject was "instinctive".  After many years as a librarian, it has
become so.

............................................................
| Carol Goodson, Coordinator/Off-Campus Library Services   |
| Ingram Library, WEST GEORGIA COLLEGE                     |
| Carrollton  GA  30118                                    |
| Phone: (404) 836-6502   FAX: (404) 836-6626              |
| Bitnet: cgoodson@uga    Internet: cgoodson@uga.cc.uga.edu|
............................................................
 "You only live once: but once is enough if you play it right"
       --Woody Allen  (Interiors)
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:27:00 CDT
From:         "JIM MICHAEL-DATA RESEARCH" <JIM@DRANET.DRA.COM>
Subject:      WAIS and Z39.50: Further clarification

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
WAIS is using Z39.50-1988 version for its implementation of a full text
client/server protocol. Z39.50-1988 is a National Information Standards
Organization (NISO) standard and is a superset of an OSI search and
retrieval protocol.

WAIS is a proprietary implementation of Z39.50-1988 in the sense that
those writing this client/server had to make local decisions about how the
protocol would be written.  Because the 1988 version was not clear and
could not in any way guarantee interoperablility, Mark Hinnebusch from
the Florida Center for Library Automation and I, James Michael, from
Data Research Associates, Inc., started the Z39.50 Implementors Group
(ZIG) in Jan. 1990. This group, consisting of vendors, Database providers,
Universities, etc. has produced Z39.50-1992 and is working on fuctionality
for versions 3 and 4 of the protocol.

Out of the ZIG came a Z39.50 Interoperability Testbed group headed by Cliff
Lynch and sponsored by the Coalition for Networked Information (CNI).
The objective is to test for compatibility and interoperability in the
implementation of the later versions of Z39.50.  Those responsible for
WAIS are committed to implementing the later versions of the protocol.

There will a session at LITA in Denver next week to bring people up to
date on Z39.50 as well as two other National standards, namely, Common
Command Language and Interlibrary Loan.

Jim Michael
Jim@dranet.dra.com
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:28:04 CDT
From:         bkatz@cosy.uoguelph.ca
Subject:      Full-Text CD-ROMs and ARIEL

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
David Proctor of Texas Tech U. Library posed some ideas re linking these two
technologies together.  I attach a response from one of my colleagues, who is
well versed in the possibilities.
                   Bernard Katz, U of Guelph Library
                   Guelph, Ontario
                   bkatz@cosy.uoguelph.ca
=======================================================

From: rdaehn@cosy.uoguelph.ca
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 92 11:44:25 EDT
To: bkatz@cosy.uoguelph.ca

Thank you for forwarding this item, Bernard.

It's indeed a logical extension of the use of Ariel and has been mentioned
before.  Unfortunately, it's not possible since the only way Ariel can print
something is if it's been scanned first - it can't take a document that's
already in digital form and then print it.  (Since there are different ways
to store documents and different methods of compression, the problem is
also far more complex than it would appear at first glance, even if Ariel
could read files not created through first scanning using Ariel.)

Ralph [Daehn]
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:08:41 CDT
From:         krit@merit.edu
Subject:      Merit Networking Seminar

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*****************Second Notice********************
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Please pass on the announcement below to interested parties.
Hard copies are available for your colleagues who are not yet
attached by sending us their postal address or by calling
1-800-66-MERIT or (313) 936-3000.  Thank you.

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The Merit Networking Seminars:
Making Your NSFNET Connection Count
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Merit/NSFNET Information Services will sponsor a one-and-
a-half day seminar at the University of Michigan  in Ann Arbor,
Michigan on October 19 and 20, 1992.  "Making Your NSFNET
Connection Count" will be an informative seminar focusing on
Internet tools, resources, and applications. Campus computing
leaders, information systems  and networking administrators,
educational liaisons, librarians, and educators with beginning or
intermediate network experience are encouraged to attend.

An optional three-hour hands-on tutorial will also be offered.
Experienced Merit staff will introduce participants to Internet
tools such as electronic mail, telnet, ftp, Gopher, and WAIS.  The
handout  included with the tutorial will help participants teach their
colleagues  what they have learned.

Since 1987, Merit Network, Inc. has operated and managed the
NSFNET backbone. Merit also manages MichNet, Michigan's
statewide network, providing networking services for over two decades.

The registration fee is $295 until October 5. After October 5 the
fee is  $345.  This fee does not include the tutorial, which is an extra
$79.  The fee does include the rest of the seminar, receptions on Sunday
and Monday  evenings, lunches on Monday and Tuesday, the
demonstration  room, and all other seminar materials. For further
information and a complete agenda, send an electronic  message to
seminar@merit.edu or telephone 1-800-66-MERIT, or 313/936-3000.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:31:38 CDT
From:         "[DCDAU7]MLN000001" <XB.DAS@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      [DCDAU7]MLN000001!GEAC bulletin board

Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dear Friends,

Recently, a colleague from one of the public libraries in Australia
approached me asking whether I had heard of a bulletin board or conference
that was run on BITNET for users of the GEAC library system. I guess the
conference would cover GEAC systems like Advance and Glis.

If anyone has heard or even seen this conference, could you please email me
and give me the email address?

I appreciate any  help you can provide {:-)

Sandra Davey
State Library of NSW
Email:   MLN000001@DCDAU7.DAS.NET    or
         ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:47:24 CDT
From:         "A. Ralph Papakhian" <PAPAKHI@IUBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Chronicle Article
              11 Sep 1992 09:31:42 CDT from <wya+@andrew.cmu.edu>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:31:42 CDT William Y. Arms said:
>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> <SOME TEXT DELETED>
....
>........  He who pays the piper calls the tune.  Departments and
>individuals who invest their own resources will expect to control what
>they do with it.
.....<MORE TEXT DELETED>
>
>Bill Arms
>Vice President for Computing Services
>Carnegie Mellon University

I guess that explains what the academic enterprise is all about.
Truth, beauty, compassion, humanity, and paying the piper.

Most cordially,
A. Ralph Papakhian, Music Library (Co-Listowner for MLA-L@IUBVM)
Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405
(812) 855-2970  papakhi@iubvm.bitnet papakhi@iubvm.ucs.indiana.edu
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:32:19 CDT
From:         BURNET@zodiac.rutgers.edu
Subject:      Request for information on MANS

Please respond directly to the author, not PACS-L.  Thanks, Dana

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have been working recently with NYCENET (the New York City Education
Network) and am looking for other similar Metropolitan Area Networks
with an educational (k-12) focus serving large urban populations.

If possible, I'd like to find out about what networks exist (or are
in the development stages), along with names, phone numbers, and
addresses (email or snailmail) of their sysadmins.

Please respond to burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu.

Thanks in advance
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:28:33 CDT
From:         Steve Cisler <sac@apple.com>
Subject:      New files on ftp.apple.com

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

New files to ftp from ftp.apple.com:
Thinking Robots
Smithsonian Images
=========================

Here are some new additions to the alug directory on ftp.apple.com
See the README file for the complete list.

alug/lita
size             date                file name
411443 Sep  8 11:25 Think.Robots.txt
520263 Sep  8 11:52 ThinkRobots.sit.hqx
543744 Sep  8 11:29 ThinkingRobots.bin

Three versions of the text from the Thinking Robots program at ALA
Summer 1992 including pieces by Bruce Sterling, Eric Lease Morgan
and many others.  Text, HyperCard stack for reading on a PowerBook
in binary format, and binhexed stack.

alug/Smith
total 63
-rw-r--r--  1 sac         25204 Sep  7 11:12 Chapman.txt
drwxr-xr-x  3 sac           512 May 13 17:21 apps
drwxr-xr-x  2 sac          1536 Aug 20 15:26 jfif
drwxr-xr--  2 sac          1536 Sep  7 10:37 jpeg
-rw-r--r--  1 sac         33284 May 15 09:04 jpeg-faq.txt

This directory contains sub-directories for Project Chapman,
the cooperative effort between the Smithsonian Institution and
the Apple Library of Tomorrow. The goal is to make available
images from the Smithsonian Prints and Photographs Division
using JPEG file compression and different browsing applications.
Included are descriptions of various programs as well as
sample images. More images will be added later.---

apps
total 3
-rw-r-----  1 sac          1755 May 13 17:21 alchemy.txt
drwxr-xr-x  2 sac           512 May 13 17:21 hypercard

alchemy.txt contains information about an application
for browsing JPEG/JFIF files. For DOS and Sun users.

hypercard is a directory containing a package of three
Hypercard stacks, ImageBrowser, JFIF stack, MakeJFIF.
These have been compacted and binhexed. Use with
HyperCard 2.1.

ChapmanCat.bin is a catalog of the images in HyperCard
format. Binary file.
ChapmanCat.sit.hqx is the binhexed version.

ImageBrowser allows you to browse JFIF images over a
TCP/IP network (if you are using MacTCP) or over an
AppleTalk network. The other two can be used to make
various conversions: from JPEG to JFIF (including uuencoding)
or from JFIF to JPEG. The images may be viewed, saved,
and PICT files can be compressed.

-----
Steve Cisler
Apple Library
sac@apple.com

"Beat your swords into joysticks!"--Spokesdroid for the
Military Infotainment Complex
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:21:45 +0300
From:         Yenal Gogebakan <YENAL@TRBILUN.BITNET>
Subject:      UREP for DG/UX

HEllo,
        I have to connect a DG/aviion machine to BITNET. Its operating
system is DG/UX. IS it possible to use UREP for this connection. Or,
is there somebody using UREP for BITNET connection with an aaviion
workstation.
        Thanks in advance.

Yenal Gogebakan
System Manager
Bilkent University
yenal@trbilun.bitnet
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:13:13 CST
From:         ADRIAN@ITESO.BITNET
Subject:      Reply DG/UX UREP
              Gogebakan"

I just have help a friend at Monterrey to install UREP at a DG/UX aviion
machine.`

We have to modify some sources, i.e there is no flock function
but a dg_flock instad that suppose to work the same.

There are also some problems with the execl and fork functions.

If you can be more precise, I'll be glad to be of help.


--
Ing. Adrian Toledano

Universidad Iteso                       tel: (3) 6-69-34-75
ITESO-67                                fax: (3) 6-69-34-35
A.P 31175                            bitnet: adrian@iteso
Guadalajara, 45051                 Internet: adrian@itesocci.gdl.iteso.mx
Mexico
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:25:20 -0400
From:         GATEH@CONNCOLL.BITNET
Subject:      assync under Ultrix 4.2

Howdy,

I'm wondering if anyone out there is successfully running the assync
driver over a serial line under Ultrix 4.2 (this is UREP 3.5, altho
I don't think the code has changed since 3.4).  I was successfully
running it under Ultrix 3.1, however now it appears to not see the
other side (the line itself has been tested and is okay).

Any thoughts?   Cheers  - Gregg

Gregg TeHennepe | Academic Computing  | Internet: gateh@mvax.cc.conncoll.edu
SysAdm          | Connecticut College | BITNET/CREN: gateh@conncoll
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From:         STONE JENNIFER LYNN <stonejl@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Rhetoric & Critical or Cultural Studies

Something happened to my last try, so here's the Charland cite again:

    Maurice Charland, "Rehabilitating Rhetoric: Confronting Blindspots
       in Discourse and Social Theory,"  Communication, 11 (1990),
       253-264.

JL Stone
stonejl@ucsu.Colorado.edu
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:33:51 CDT
From:         James Danowski <U45571@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      poem

When I need a poem, I prefer to have them randomly selected, and
process them privately.

I do this:


TELL BIALIK AT BRANDEIS POEM/RANDOM
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:17:02 EDT
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Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 22

In this issue:
                        Intel LGB Employee Group
                         Quick AIDS editorial
                        National Coming Out Day
                    GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 14

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 09:46:51 -0500
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:43:15 EDT
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Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 20

In this issue:
                         Red Hot Chilli Peppers

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:26 EST
From: GANDERSON@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Re: Red Hot Chilli Peppers

I've heard at least one member of the "peppers" is bi. Their is a song on their
last cd entitled "my lovely man", there video for "Give It Away" icludes a
quick kiss between 2 of the band members, and I recall on New Years Day one
Pepper said that his most exciting New Years Eve was in a Gay bar. You
draw your own conclusions.
Jerry Cheney C/O "GANDERSON@Vax.ClarkU.Edu"

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:17:02 EDT
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Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 13

In this issue:
                                  OLTL

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Subject: RE: OLTL
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 19:06:38 PDT
From: "Joseph C. Chen" <cchen@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>

  Just wanted to thank Brett for all those wonderfully detailed plot
summaries of OLTL.  Although I was not able to watch the shows myself,
I got a sense of what was going on just from the synopsis.  I'm glad
that I was able to hear the story line indirectly.  Thanx!

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| Joseph C. Chen                | Family values?        |
| cchen@jarthur.claremont.edu   | What family values?   |
|===============================| Those discriminating, |
| fascist standards defined by the dominant, white,     |
| Judeo-Christian, heterosexual, capitalist patriarchy? |
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