From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: mace / nutmeg
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:09:22 GMT

In article <?-190892083143@129.59.50.0> ? (?) writes:

>   In article <9208190055.AA09022@ccsg.tau.ac.il>, liron@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL (Liron
>   Kapara) wrote:
>   > 
>   > I have heard mace and nutmeg (spice) are hallusinative
>   > is it true ?
>   > is there any danger in them ?
>   > how much and how should one consume for it to be activ?
>   > -liron

From FAQ-Natural-High
---------------------

#Usage: 5-20 grams of ground nutmeg is ingested.  Fresh ground is best.  Can
#also be taken in a "space paste" concoction (see below).  Space paste is
#difficult/expensive to make and tastes like shit; however, it may actually
#decrease the side effects.

#Effects: Possible nausea during first hour; may cause vomiting or
#diarrhea in isolated cases.  Takes anywhere from one to five hours for effects
#to set in.  Then expect severe cottonmouth, flushing of skin, severely
#bloodshot eyes, dilated pupils.  Personally I compare it to a very, very
#heavy hash buzz.  "Intense sedation".  Impaired speech and motor functions.
#Hallucinations uncommon in average (5-10 gm) doses.  Generally followed by
#long, deep, almost coma-like sleep (expect 16 hours of sleep afterward) and
#feelings of lethargy after sleep.  May cause constipation, water retention.
#Safrole is carcinogenic and toxic to the liver.

#Interaction precautions: MAO inhibitor

#Active Constituents: Methylenedioxy-substituted compounds: myristicin
#(non-amine precursor of 3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyamphetamine [M-MDA])
#elemicin, and safrole.

#==================================

#FROM THE NET:

#~From: ccastmg@hydra.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman)
#~Subject: Nutmeg Story
#~Date: 11 Aug 91 23:56:07 GMT
#Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

#Friday, a "friend" of mine decided to see what all the talk about nutmeg
#was all about... here's what happened...

# 8:15  -- "he" took 1 tablespoon of ground nutmeg...
# 9:15  -- "he" took 1 more tablespoon of ground nutmeg...
#11:15  -- "he" took still 1 more tablespoon of ground nutmeg...

#As of now, "he"  didn't feel anything... "He" got the  beginnings of a buzz
#at about 12:30 which gradually increased in intensity...
#By 3 am or so, he compared it to moderate cannibis buzz
#It peaked at at 5 am, and he then went to sleep.

#The effects continued through saturday afternoon and
#night, though not as intense as late friday night (or saturday morning
#technically).

> Well, as I understand it, the reason you feel something from nutmeg is 
> because it anesthetizes your lungs -- it "freezes" them.  This also happens 
> to be damaging, and therefore something you might generally want to avoid.  
> From those who do it, I get the general idea that smoking nutmeg really 
> isn't worth it.
> As for effects & dosage, I haven't tried, so I can't say.


Huh?  Maybe nutmeg does freeze your lungs *if you smoke it*.  But I
have never read anything about smoking nutmeg.  All sources cite
*ingestion* as the primary way to "do" nutmeg.  Your friends ("those
who do it") should become informed before experimenting with a
mind-alterant.  It's easy enough to make a mistake if you're informed,
but it's far too easy, and possibly deadly, to make a mistake if you
go on hearsay.

By the way, I haven't tried nutmeg either.  The buzz sounds kind of
heavy for my tastes.  Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds are much nicer to
your body.