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From: jitendra@watson.ibm.com (Jitendra Telang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: For Jitendra Telang about his soc.tamil article
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:24:13 GMT
Reply-To: jitendra@kaiser.watson.ibm.com (Jitendra Telang)
Distribution: na
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In article <1992Apr16.213218.28412@cs.odu.edu>, raj@coquina.cs.odu.edu (M.P. Krishna Raj) writes:
|> You have written that Hindi is national language. For your information
|> there are 14 national languages (whatever you saw on the rupee notes).
|> Hindi is one of the official language, other one being english. 
|> 
|> If you studied properly in your high school you may not be
|> posting such junk article. 
|> 

Well, all right! I didn't study properly in my High school.

However, don't you think you missed the whole point? Try to 
write some non-junk articles instead of picking such silly mistakes.

--

Jitendra
From: rmv@ukc.ac.uk (RAJ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: thamiL_sangam
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:25:45 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.



             I received the following comments/suggestions from  two netters .
I have included my reply as well .

  MY request
------------
     Please send your comments/suggestions on the thamiL_sangam to the net ,
so that many more members can see it . This way we can collect  different
ideas arising from  different  people .
                        You should post only the "words"   to me .
  Thanks 
   raj


>
>
>Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:40 MST
>From: SGOPALAN@cc.utah.edu
>Subject: a suggestion
>To: rmv@ukc.ac.uk
>
>Dear Mr.Raj,
>I have a suggestion. I think your idea of creating new words in Thamizh
>is an admirable one, but may i make the following suggestion/s:

>1. could you change your heading to Thamizh-Sangam instead of Thamil Sangam.s t

  I thought about it before .  My only reservation is --  thamiL is a phonetic
 language .  The letter "zh"   does not seem to "sound" like the thamiL letter
it represent . Moreover the usage of  "L" ( note the uppercase . It is NOT 
lower case)is not my original creation .  It was adapted from a book   on 
"Krishna principle & tamils "    ( cannot remember the exact title)  .

>2. i think the words should be mostly technical nature since this is the only
>aspect in which our great language is lacking.
   
       I aggree  . But I donot want to completely discard  otherwords 
at this stage .   For details see the  2nd mail ( bellow)

>3.if there is enough interest generated we could maybe think of starting
>our own newsgroup.
        This is great . But I have no information on this matter .
I donot know the regulations & conditions reguarding this  . If some one can
initiate it it will a great step towards progress .
>expecting a reply ASAP
>-thamizhanban,
>srikanth.
>
>Thamizhan Endru Sollada
> Thalai Nimirndu Nillada!

     Agreed 100%

>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 01:02:00 -0700
>From: Saravanan Arunachalam <arun@cs.unr.edu>
>Message-Id: <9204130802.AA10508@pyramid>
>To: rmv@ukc.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: thamiL_sangam
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
>
>It's better to accept some english words like chocolate in tamil since
>almost all tamils know what a chocolate is. I appreciate your effort and look
>forward to help you.
                
                  The words posted are not entirely mine .It is contributed
by different members . So I will wait for some more comments from different
members . If   others also  agrree with you I will amend the "rule" to include
only technical words  .


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14343 soc.culture.sri-lanka:493
From: chandra@cs.tamu.edu (Chandrasekaran Periannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Keywords: citizenship
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:59:11 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Apr14.043032.23832@ctr.columbia.edu> burra@sun1.coe.ttu.edu (Gangadhar Burra) writes:
>Would you please clarify what you mean by tamils not being citizens
>of either India or Sri-Lanka. Did you mean to say that being a tamil
>is of a greater significance than being a citizen of your country? 
>
>Gangadhar.


	Would *you*, Mr. Burra, clarify  what you are getting at?
Do you mean that the Irish, Jewish, the Czech and all others who have
settled in the USA or any othet country forget about their ties to the
people in other countries based on their common origin and culture?

	Then do you think what some US citizens of Indian origin do based
purely on their cultural ties to India something deserving your criticism?
For example, there are many US citizens of Indian origin who participate in
the discussions on SCI, are founders/members of Indian cultural
associations all over USA. DO their activities come under the purview of
your criticism?

	What the netter who proposed starting the newsgroup meant was that
Tamils from all over the world can share their views, experiences based
uniquely on their cultural and historical origin uncluttered by the flood
of discussions that take place that are relevant only to Indians.

	Tamil is an official language in Singapore and have separate TV and
Radio channels for Tamils which they did not have to fight for, in stark
contrast to the situation in India (let's not talk about Sri Lanka!).


cheers,
chandra


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha)
Subject: Hung Parliament in the Mother Country : -)
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:54:30 GMT


   I'm not sure if this is relevent in SCI, but I'm going ahead anyway :-)
   Heard it on the BBC that a hung parliament is likely in Britain, judging
   from exit polls. It is highly unclear and rather debatable, that Labour/
   Conservative will win the highest number of seats. (6.00p.m CST news)
   Labour seems to be committed to an increase in taxes mainly to improve
   the oft-beaten health care system, whereas the Tories have promised to
   reduce taxes (HA!). PM John Major blamed the global financial crisis as
   the cause for the ravaged economy.
    An Aside :- The Beeb reporter said that the "Afro-Carribean" candidate
                in Cheltenham lost. Voila. Political correctness in Britain,
                too? (All- Right!!!!!!)

Arun Simha

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:13908 soc.culture.pakistan:6214
From: fmbutt@mrbt.sw.stratus.com (Farooq Butt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Mistreatment of Indians by Northwest Airlines -- Reply from Northwest
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:36:59 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering


There's a similar thread to this one going on in SCP.  Apparently 
Turk Hava Yollari had also snatched the passports of all Pakistani 
nationals travelling from Turkey to the US.  I wonder why US airlines,
in all their infinite high-tech wisdom don't learn how to use a
simple photocopier.  Before PIA lets anyone board a plane, they
XEROX the passenger's travel documents, thus closing the "I'll
rip up my passport" route to political asylum.  Thus, when 
Mr. Mustansar Hussain TharuR shows up at JFK and claims to be a
political refugee from Tando-Adam, INS gets a FAX from PIA, Karachi
(or wherever he boarded) indicating that he is, in fact Mr.
Bhola Pehlwaan from Lahore on a "pleasure" trip to the USA.
Mr. TharuR is then shown the way back to the plane waiting to 
take him home...

fmb
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From: GOOMMEN3@UA1VM.BITNET (OOMMEN GEORGE, by way of kvrao@andy.bgsu.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR A FRIEND
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:28:06 GMT


Dear Editor,

I am looking for RAJDEEP GUPTA.He joined the Ph.D programme in Economics at
Northwestern University,Evanston,Illinois last Fall.He graduated from The
Delhi School of Economics last summer.Prior to that ,he graduated from
Presidency College,Calcutta in 1989 .
I will deeply appreciate any help in this matter.
I can be contacted at:
Phone: (205)750-0873 (Residence)        (205)348-5897 (Office)
E-mail: GOOMMEN3@UA1VM.UA.EDU
Thank you for your cooperation.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: phd_dy@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re:**********???????***************
Organization: 
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:55:34 GMT

"So long, m'lad", a squeal, a whine
From that murky bottle of brine -
"My dear sure-footed young porcine,
Did you think it was divine
To give the blooming floor a shine
With my booted sore behind ???"



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From: "Uday R. Naik" <unaik@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: A joke about mathematicians ( with due respects to them)
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:59:07 -0500

In article <1992Apr16.003105.15440@cs.brown.edu> as@cs.brown.edu (Apratim Sarkar) writes:
>Once upon a time, a physicist, a mathematician and an engineer set out to
>prove the theorem that all odd integers are primes.
>
>Said the physicist, "Well, 1 doesn't count, 3 is a prime, 5 is a prime, 7 is, 9
>isn't but then again 11 and 13 are. Hence, 9 must be an error in experimental
>data analysis. Within an error limit, we therefore conclude that ... "
>
>Said the mathematician, "Well, 1 doesn't count, 3 is a prime, 5 is a prime, 7 is,
>hence by induction we conclude that ... "
>
>And then said the engineer, "Well, 1 doesn't count, 3 is a prime, 5 is a prime, 7
>is a prime, 9 is a prime ... "
>
	And the computer scientist said "1 does'nt count, 
	3 is a prime,
	3 is a prime,
	3 is a prime,
	....
	...
	(bus error - core dumped)


		uday



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Hi ! I am not this guy's .signature , no no... , where  did you ever
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shankar@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Chidambaram Shankar)
Subject: test message
Originator: shankar@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:45:15 GMT

hi,
  this is just a test message.
     bye
From: gt5013a@prism.gatech.EDU (Dhaval Anilkumar Vasavada)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: CALL FOR A SEPARATE GUJARATI NATION
Keywords: GUJARAT, NATION, GUJJU JOKES.
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:05:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology



Dear GUJJUBHAIS and GUJJUBENS, 

The recent postings on and about GUJJU JOKES on SCI have caused my pure 
Gujju blood to boil. In the 22 years of my existence in India and almost
1-1/2 years in the USA I have not seen any community as oppressed, as 
maligned, as mistreated and as JOKED ABOUT as the GUJJU community. I hear some
Suds complain about my taking away their #1 status in this regard; but face it 
Suds - you guys are safe outside India; not so with us Gujjus. We are joked 
about even in the US especially on SCI.

Enough is enough! We Gujjus are the "most intelligent"; "most motel minded";
and the "most grocery store minded" community in the world (NO challenge in
the last two categories!). So we do not have to take all this "bull-sheet"
from the world, especially from Indians. I have therefore decided to lead a 
movement to warn the United Nations, the Indian Govt. and Amnesty Intl. about
this mis-treatment. If they can't curb these injustices in the next 72 hrs.
we shall seccede from India and declare the Republic of Gujarat as a separate
nation. 

Many of you peaceful Gujjus might suggest a less drastic step like a separate
newsgroup exclusively for us oppressed Gujjus. But this will definitely not
work. Our enemies will invade our private newsgroup and post "Gujju jokes".
We shall not rest till we get absolute "swarajya" from these jokes.

All Gujjus interested in this patriotic cause are welcome. You can call in
your contributions or volunteer for freedom fighter duties on the toll-free 
(ofcourse!) line we have installed in our secret headquarters in the jungles  
of Jersey City,NJ. The number to call is:

			1-800-ME-GUJJU

Jai Gujarat and death to the Gujju jokes writers.
-- 
DHAVAL VASAVADA	              *** Your friendly neighbourhood GUJJU *** 
GEORGIA TECH.
ATLANTA, GA 30332     *** LIFE IS SHORT .. PLAY HARD .. DON'T JUST LIVE IT *** 
Ph: (404) 676-0458
From: kumar@duck.ncsc.org (Ashwini Kumar [Gupta])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Tax Question...on Treaty..
Keywords: Treaty Tax
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:16:06 GMT
Organization: North Carolina Supercomputing Center

Yet Another Question on Treaty:

Treaty allows researchers not to pay taxes if they visit USA 
for two years.. It also states that the"if a professor or teacher
remains in the host State for more than two-year period, he may
be subject to tax in that State, under its law for the entire period 
of his presence".

Now the question: if one stays after two years, he returns the
tax money "honestly"....Does he have to pay any interest (@ what
rate) and any penalty ????????????

Pl answer to : kumar@duck.ncsc.org   (or use reply option)

thanks ........

ashwini


--
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post doc in food engineering		      851-5829 (sleepy voice)    
north carolina state university               kumar@ncsc.org
raleigh, nc 27695-7624
From: partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MAMA'S BOYS HAVING A GOOD TIME IN THE U.S.
Keywords: Wimps
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:59:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36396
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering

In article <3401@screamer.csee.usf.edu> bhate@graphite.csee.usf.edu (Neeta Bhate) writes:
>
>I agree with the above completely. I have come in contact with  numerous
>such wimps. I think it is a case of wanting to have the cake and eat it

>The jerk. 
>
>--Neeta Bhate. 

This guy you described, is definitely a jerk. My sympathies for his
ex-girl friend. I hope that she recovers from her trauma soon and finds
a better guy in life. It's good for her that this guy dropped her.
He doesn't deserve her at all. 

Now coming to my point. One jerk doesn't make an entire population.
I know of many incidents in my short life where women have played
the role of the man you've described now. However, I wouldn't like
to generalize that most of the women are jerks. Some human beings
are jerks and they get away with what they do. And that's frustrating.
There are lots of novels worth writing based on some human jerks.

You might be surprised, I've come across and even seen women who've
betrayed their beloved ones and gotten away with their deeds, simply
because they're women. And they were really smart at that. My opinion
now stands at this - there are jerks among both men and women. Only
the women jerks are a lot smarter than men jerks. Men have to learn
a lot from women. 

Partha sarathy

NB: Not necessarily a view of a MCP.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran)
Subject: Re: Why we can't make fighter planes ?
Originator: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
	<1992Apr05.080532.4815@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:58:11 GMT

	In article <1992Apr05.080532.4815@acs.ucalgary.ca>
	kudu@enel.ucalgary.ca (Gopi Kuduvalli, The Gemini) writes:

   	The short answer to all your questions is one word: ECONOMICS.

 	[Proposal that socialist thinking in India is the cause of the problem
	deleted]
	......

   	So, in summary, no fighter jets until we achieve economic growth.

This is not to be defend or attack socialism, but your naswer is
noresponsive to the question.  Societ Union, whatever its economic
problems under Stalin and his succesors, was very good at producing
fighter planes and complex space problems and rockets, and China is no
slouch at producing and selling complex weaponry, such as missiles.
So, while the argument can be made that socialism is a cause for our
economic problems, it cannot be the cause of our failure to produce
figher planes.
From: rmv@ukc.ac.uk (RAJ)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: thamiL_sangam
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:02:00 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.



     It   is being a great joy reading all the (very quick) responses
from  other thamiL_anbar   . I feeling a bit guilty  for reading
all those , all alone . 
        More over there will be many others who will like to view 
the progress of this sangam  directly .
      So , send your comments on tha  sangam to the net  . 
But send me the  "words" , you want to include .

       nandRy
         raj
From: uds@parvathi.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Subject: Re: Gandhi vs Ghaendi
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:52:21 GMT

>     Hey Raam,
>       This idiot from Australia, after all his gaffes and sanctimoniousness
>on Rec.sport.cricket, has decided to turn his attention to SCI!.
>    Mr. Ramkumar, are you SO dumb as not to get the meaning of the original post
>by Uday and Seetamraju?? With all the posts on the "Indian" vs "American" 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bossu,  I am only one person.  You are scaring me!  I plead with the netters
to confirm (TO ME and to no one else), that my postings do indicate that only I
(and only me) have been posting on the net.

Please respond fast, if you detect anything abnormal.  if something's wrong,
I will have to get a checkup, before my Univ-paid insurance terminates by this
semester end.

Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ss0 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rm7d@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ramu Movva)
Subject: ?? Univs offer MS in Agricultural Sc/Engg.
Keywords: Univ info, Agricultural 
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:01:53 GMT

Hi

Can some one please help me in finding the universities offering 
MS program in Agricultural Science.

Would appreciate if one can give contact address and if a 
specialization in Plant Beeding is available at the universities
they know.

Thanks in advance

-- Ramu
(Ramu.Movva@cs.Virginia.EDU)
From: shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Housing in Princeton
Date: 9 Apr 1992 13:27:25 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: boogie.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: housing Princeton EE

A friend of mine from IIT KGP is going to Princeton in Fall for 
a Ph.D.  He is right now in Austin.  Do you know anyone in Princeton 
who could provide him with information regarding possible housing and
house-mates?

-Shubu

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From: un034156@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Pyar Kiya To Darna Kyaa.
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:42:56 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


	>HEY, I LIKED THIS TITLE.

	PYAR KIYA TO DARNA KYA,
	   AIDS HOOA TO KARNA KYA.

	THIS IS THE NAME OF THE MOVIE, WHICH WAS RELEASED IN BOMBAY IN 1987.

	DAN FIELDING.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan)
Subject: City of Joy - Review from Wall Street Journal
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:48:06 GMT


The following review appeared in Wall Street Journal (April 16) with
Om Puri's photograph.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

  In the press materials for his latest movie, "City of Joy", director
Roland Joffe contributes a heartfelt essay about how he decided to
make a film about an American doctor who  finds himself among the poor
of Calcutta.  He writes about a place where "people and traffic boil
through streets".  He writes about the sickening sight of lepers, and 
about the inspiring meeting he had with an Irish Jewesih doctor who
converted to Catholicism and moved to Calcutta to run a street clinic.
He writes about his meeting with the great Indian film maker Satyajit 
Ray, who told him that no Westerner could make a film about Calcutta.

  With this film Mr. Joffe has not proved Mr. Ray wrong.  Though 
"City of Joy" is fascinating simply because it was shot in Calcutta,
it subverts its own intent at almost every turn.  Instead of being a
movie about the resilence of the human spirit - against poverty and
social rigidity - "City of Joy" becomes a celebration of Western 
ingenuity and idealism.  Even that would not be so sad if the Westerner
chosen to represent the loss and recovery of ideals were not Patrick
Swayze.

  Mr. Swayze plays Max, a surgeon from Texas who's become frustrated
with his profession because he's discovered that patients sometimes
die.  Not the most original thinker, he heads to India to find meaning
for his life.  He meets a British nurse (Pauline Collins) who has 
escaped her personal misery by running a clinic for the poor.  She 
immediately begins urging him to help her out in the clinic. He resists
then succumbs - after helping the lepers of Calcutta fing diginity and
forging a resistance movement among the poor against the local mafia
that controls their lives.

 Mark Medoff's sentimental script in no way mitigates the unbelievability
of Mr. Swayze's characterization.  Too often the city's sad souls are
paraded before him and the camera like tourist attractions.  See the
poverty| See the despair!

  It's a pity, because mr. Joffe has elicited some moments of truth 
from his large and talented cast of Indian performers - especially 
Om Puri.  But the suffering  and courage of the people they represent
are relegated to supporting roles in the glorification of the big man
from Hollywood.

by Julie Salamon



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