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050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:04:44 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!convex!usenet@network.UCSD.E
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: enough, already
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 In article <1992Sep11.211129.4061@cs.rose-hulman.edu> derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman
500 Unknown command, 'In'
050 }
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050 }As the instigator of the great "batteries on concrete floor diatribe", I
500 Unknown command, '}'
050 }would like to recommend that we call it quits.
500 Unknown command, '}'
050 }
500 Unknown command, '}'
050 End it? You can't do that: Doug DeMaw is writing an article on using your
500 Unknown command, 'End'
050 Garage floor to power your QRP rig during fieldday!
500 Unknown command, 'Garage'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 --
500 Unknown command, '-'
050 Tony J. Podrasky |  What's this thing?
500 Unknown command, 'Tony'
050  San Diego , Ca   |  It's called a MODEM.
500 Unknown command, 'San'
050 tonyp@convex.com |  And what's this button for?
500 Unknown command, 'tonyp'
050 WA2EAA NNNN ZCZC  |  Whatever you do, don't touc{{{7bh6xx!{@%%hxbd&$#)$% NO CARR
500 Unknown command, 'WA2EAA'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 11 Sep 1992 23:05:09 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: ucsd.edu!brian@network.UCSD.EDU
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Hamfest Bogus Check Alert
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Every time I have opened a checking account, they have asked me what
500 Unknown command, 'Every'
050 number I wanted the checks to start with.  Usually I pick a number
500 Unknown command, 'number'
050 in the thousands.
500 Unknown command, 'in'
050 	- Brian
500 Unknown command, '	'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 11 Sep 92 22:31:43 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!ne
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Hamfest Bogus Check Alert
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 In article <1992Sep11.205921.24963@mtu.edu> mtjachim@mtu.edu (Mr. M. T. Jachimst
500 Unknown command, 'In'
050 >randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >>1) A low check number.  The account may just
500 Unknown command, '>>'
050 >>have been opened.  Be suspicious of check numbers below 500.
500 Unknown command, '>>'
050 >>
500 Unknown command, '>>'
050 >
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >I have problem with this, no mattewr how true it may be. Just
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >because somebody just opened their checking account doesn't mean
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >that they should automatically be under suspicion. I had
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >an account at a credit union in the city where my father used to work.
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >When he changed jobs, it was no longer worth our time to do our
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >banking in that city. I had to close that account and open up
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >a brand new one. Even though I've had checking accounts for
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >years, my check numbers are now around 130.
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >
500 Unknown command, '>'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 I have moved a number of times over the last 18 years, and when I
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050 open a new account, I merely order the checks starting with a
500 Unknown command, 'open'
050 higher number (i.e. start at 1000 rather than 100), it eliminates
500 Unknown command, 'higher'
050 a lot of unwarranted prejudice.  I think it was Utah where the
500 Unknown command, 'a'
050 banks print the month and year your account was opened on the
500 Unknown command, 'banks'
050 checks, but it seemed people eyed the check number more often.
500 Unknown command, 'checks'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 John
500 Unknown command, 'John'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 --
500 Unknown command, '-'
050 John D. Hays [KD7UW]           |Email: [UUCP]          ...!hplabs!hpdmd48!jhays
500 Unknown command, 'John'
050 Firmware Engineer              |       [INTERNET]              jhays@boi.hp.com
500 Unknown command, 'Firmware'
050 Boise Printer Division         |       [GEnie]                             HAYS
500 Unknown command, 'Boise'
050 Boise, Idaho                   |       [Compu$erve]                   72725,424
500 Unknown command, 'Boise'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 11 Sep 92 13:27:17 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: mcsun!uknet!dsbc!ozz!prs@uunet.uu.net
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Jamboree-On-The-Air (17-18/10/92)
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 This is a reminder to all UK participants in this year's Jamboree-On-The-Air
500 Unknown command, 'This'
050 that you must register yourselves with Scout Headquarter BEFORE the event.
500 Unknown command, 'that'
050 This will enable you to gain the pre-JOTA newsletter, gain valuable resource
500 Unknown command, 'This'
050 material and information on other stations and become part of the annual
500 Unknown command, 'material'
050 statistics.
500 Unknown command, 'statistics'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 More information from the National Adviser (Amateur Radio):
500 Unknown command, 'More'
050 	Paul Bateman G1ZOV,
500 Unknown command, '	'
050 	tel: 081-998 1921
500 Unknown command, '	'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 or contact the Programme & Training  Department at Gilwell Park:
500 Unknown command, 'or'
050 	tel: 081-524 5248
500 Unknown command, '	'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 73 es Good Scouting
500 Unknown command, '73'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 de Peter G0PUB (JOTA GB2PL)
500 Unknown command, 'de'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050 --... ...--      -.. .      --. ----- .--. ..- -...      -.-
500 Unknown command, '-'
050 Peter Swynford is available... tel: +44 344 424842 x 2625 / fax: +44 344 489280
500 Unknown command, 'Peter'
050 or at prs@oasis.icl.co.uk /..!uunet!mcsun!ukc!iclbra!prs / G0PUB@GB7RDG.GBR.EU
500 Unknown command, 'or'
050 Disclaimer: See Paragraph 2.4.a of section 1.a (article 7) (iii) of the
500 Unknown command, 'Disclaimer'
050             Town and Country Planning Act, 1967.
500 Unknown command, 'Town'
050 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 11 Sep 1992 16:44:40 -0700
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: ORBS$256.AMSAT
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.O
500 Unknown command, 'SB'
050 Orbital Elements  256.OSCAR
500 Unknown command, 'Orbital'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES
500 Unknown command, 'HR'
050 FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.O
500 Unknown command, 'FROM'
050 TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
500 Unknown command, 'TO'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: AO-10
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 14129
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92227.67653450
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     889
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       26.7268 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:        68.9017 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.6028962
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:     8.6060 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     358.5849 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:    2.05882051 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       -3.7e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            6895
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              339
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: UO-11
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 14781
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92253.63499235
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     298
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       97.8442 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       286.0458 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0011708
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   167.2521 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     192.8984 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.68650194 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       2.99e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           45553
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              349
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: RS-10/11
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 18129
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92254.97994470
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     324
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.9232 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:        84.9859 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0012549
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    18.2274 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     341.9298 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.72293930 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       1.75e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           26155
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              335
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: AO-13
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 19216
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92250.77567606
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     448
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       57.2283 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:         3.1239 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.7292261
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   295.5417 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:       8.5329 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:    2.09720197 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:      -1.46e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            3241
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              304
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: FO-20
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20480
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92243.74437316
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     382
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       99.0703 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       148.4108 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0541132
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    24.2642 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     338.2951 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   12.83213243 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       -8.0e-08 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           12006
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              264
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: AO-21
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21087
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92254.51818042
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     495
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.9403 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       259.7735 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0037055
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    81.0964 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     279.4398 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.74492423 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            8102
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              312
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: RS-12/13
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21089
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92242.76591364
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     300
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.9273 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       138.2227 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0029246
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   134.0620 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     226.2950 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.73999150 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        4.1e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            7850
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              294
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 /EX
500 Unknown command, '/'
050 SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.D
500 Unknown command, 'SB'
050 Orbital Elements  256.MICROS
500 Unknown command, 'Orbital'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS
500 Unknown command, 'HR'
050 FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.D
500 Unknown command, 'FROM'
050 TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
500 Unknown command, 'TO'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: UO-14
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20437
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92252.67065254
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     617
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.6371 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       333.7939 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0010888
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   292.8506 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:      67.1527 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.29668255 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        7.2e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           13720
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              327
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: AO-16
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20439
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92236.72664479
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     488
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.6422 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       318.6280 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0011845
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   342.9772 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:      17.1011 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.29729314 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        8.7e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           13493
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              323
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: DO-17
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20440
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92251.71853570
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     490
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.6415 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       333.6363 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0010985
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   298.5546 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:      61.4530 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.29859354 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        7.0e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           13708
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              314
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: WO-18
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20441
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92252.73463712
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     490
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.6414 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       334.6869 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0011368
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   294.9583 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:      65.0418 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.29850038 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        6.2e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           13723
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              315
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: LO-19
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20442
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92246.73599032
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     489
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.6420 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       328.8597 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0012064
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   313.0040 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:      47.0130 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.29933319 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        7.6e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           13638
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              303
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: UO-22
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21575
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92251.71236010
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     190
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.5040 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       325.9493 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0008607
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    61.2325 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     298.9725 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.36691037 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        8.9e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            6010
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              291
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: KO-23
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 22079
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92248.30475323
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:      11
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       66.0857 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       202.7436 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0015397
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   257.7944 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     100.7018 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   12.86274000 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       8.22e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:             314
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              275
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 /EX
500 Unknown command, '/'
050 SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.W
500 Unknown command, 'SB'
050 Orbital Elements  256.WEATHER
500 Unknown command, 'Orbital'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR WEATHER SATELLITES
500 Unknown command, 'HR'
050 FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.W
500 Unknown command, 'FROM'
050 TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
500 Unknown command, 'TO'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: NOAA-9
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 15427
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92252.63021565
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     165
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       99.1389 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       281.4312 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0014210
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   239.7686 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     120.2102 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.13431394 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       3.36e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           39900
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              281
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: NOAA-10
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 16969
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92253.08993274
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:      11
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.5343 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       270.2555 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0014284
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    58.8538 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     301.4061 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.24699237 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       1.92e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           31060
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              305
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-2/17
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 18820
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92252.01332515
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     747
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5394 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:        63.3541 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0015796
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   195.8977 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     164.1683 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.84647736 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        3.5e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           23279
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              334
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-3/2
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 19336
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92253.54841037
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     953
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5398 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:        60.5371 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0018246
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    75.8417 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     284.4731 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.16950323 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        1.9e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           19827
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              317
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: NOAA-11
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 19531
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92252.66038930
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     907
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       99.0913 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       217.5078 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0012131
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   146.9111 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     213.2787 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.12736595 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       3.36e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           20392
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              295
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-2/18
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 19851
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92239.25650665
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     696
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5214 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       310.0379 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0013544
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   281.9334 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:      78.0307 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.84296365 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        6.0e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           17638
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              322
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-3/3
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20305
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92249.39352226
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     602
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5478 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:         5.7752 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0016053
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   101.2443 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     259.0484 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.16002521 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           13764
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              264
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-2/19
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20670
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92242.87437057
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     445
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5442 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:         9.7478 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0014880
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   186.5421 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     173.5548 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.84135065 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        3.7e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           10982
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              318
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: FY-1/2
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20788
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92250.57949054
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     416
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.8965 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       278.6867 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0016100
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    17.3591 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     342.8121 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.01283543 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       3.71e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           10286
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              313
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-2/20
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20826
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92242.65779942
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     447
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5266 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       308.3167 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0014276
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    85.8053 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     274.4739 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.83509135 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        6.2e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            9697
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              335
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-3/4
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21232
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92242.58233399
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     246
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5438 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       273.9318 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0019078
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    37.9621 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     322.2863 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.16810857 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            6494
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              313
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: NOAA-12
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21263
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92252.11867843
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     366
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.6900 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       280.8446 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0012072
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   313.9723 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:      46.0494 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.22099940 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       1.87e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            6855
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              311
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MET-3/5
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21655
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92242.96532140
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     313
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       82.5523 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       220.1656 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0015004
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    39.9233 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     320.2990 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   13.16808416 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            5009
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              264
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 /EX
500 Unknown command, '/'
050 SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.M
500 Unknown command, 'SB'
050 Orbital Elements  256.MISC
500 Unknown command, 'Orbital'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
500 Unknown command, 'HR'
050 FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.M
500 Unknown command, 'FROM'
050 TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
500 Unknown command, 'TO'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: MIR
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 16609
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92255.24686121
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     542
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       51.6250 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       177.3408 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0003423
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   140.4248 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     219.6930 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   15.53954588 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:     4.1933e-04 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           37566
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              307
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: HUBBLE
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 20580
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92254.79124062
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     845
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       28.4698 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:        63.6116 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0004754
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:   358.8180 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:       1.2412 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.91740039 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:      1.596e-05 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:           12974
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              298
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: GRO
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21225
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92249.22021221
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     679
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       28.4615 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       195.4379 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0005922
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    82.2497 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     277.8811 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   15.60113978 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:     1.6716e-04 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            8049
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              310
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: UARS
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21701
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92235.16609408
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     179
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       56.9891 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       299.9089 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0004813
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    88.1664 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     272.0055 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.96350401 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:     -1.169e-05 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            5153
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              310
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Satellite: SARA
500 Unknown command, 'Satellite'
050 Catalog number: 21578
500 Unknown command, 'Catalog'
050 Epoch time:      92239.73732592
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Element set:     311
500 Unknown command, 'Element'
050 Inclination:       98.5079 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Inclination'
050 RA of node:       314.5200 deg
500 Unknown command, 'RA'
050 Eccentricity:    0.0005717
500 Unknown command, 'Eccentricity'
050 Arg of perigee:    97.4465 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Arg'
050 Mean anomaly:     262.7372 deg
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Mean motion:   14.37882432 rev/day
500 Unknown command, 'Mean'
050 Decay rate:       5.81e-06 rev/day^2
500 Unknown command, 'Decay'
050 Epoch rev:            5840
500 Unknown command, 'Epoch'
050 Checksum:              310
500 Unknown command, 'Checksum'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 /EX
500 Unknown command, '/'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:08:17 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!wdc!mark@uunet.uu.net
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: RFI Shielding
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 In article <11SEP199217084340@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, afpauls@lims01.lerc.nasa.go
500 Unknown command, 'In'
050 |> I have an application where the keying of hand held radio (160 MHZ) is
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> causing an unacceptable disturbance in the signal coming from a position
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> transducer.  The position transducer has a signal conditioner mounted
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> remotely from the sensor head.  The interferance is picked up at the signal
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> conditioner.  If feel that the best way to solve this problem would be to
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> mount the signal conditioner in an RFI proof enclosure.  Here are my
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 |> questions.
500 Unknown command, '|'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 The remotely mounted signal conditioner allows the the long input cable to picku
500 Unknown command, 'The'
050 Even if you shield the cable, you may be picking up some common-mode RFI at the
500 Unknown command, 'Even'
050 conditioner (both wires receiving the same signal with the signal conditioner ha
500 Unknown command, 'conditioner'
050 poor common-mode rejection of HF signals.
500 Unknown command, 'poor'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Is there some physical reason for not mounting the signal conditioner right at t
500 Unknown command, 'Is'
050 sensor transducer (this would help tremendously if the output of the signal cond
500 Unknown command, 'sensor'
050 is low-impedance, high drive.
500 Unknown command, 'is'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 If you cannot locate the box near the sensor, try connecting using a twisted pai
500 Unknown command, 'If'
050 cable between them.  First try both ends of cable shield to good 0vdc ground.  A
500 Unknown command, 'cable'
050 connecting the shield to a good ground only at the sensor.  Another solution for
500 Unknown command, 'connecting'
050 RFI would be ferrite beads on both signal lines at the signal conditioner end.
500 Unknown command, 'RFI'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Unfortunately RFI/EMI is as much of an art as it is a science.
500 Unknown command, 'Unfortunately'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Mark
500 Unknown command, 'Mark'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:42:21 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: usc!rpi!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!atropa!berger@network.U
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Selling rigs to unlicensed personnel
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 lwwald@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (LARRY WALD) writes:
500 Unknown command, 'lwwald'
050 >This is in reference to the current thread about someone buying an Alinco
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >580T who did not have a license.
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >Given that an individual may go into a gun store and purchase a rifle,
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >shotgun, or pistol, and not need to provide any proof of their ability to
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >safely handle, shoot, store, and understand their weapon, then the idea of
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 >a person absolutely having a license to purchase a rig is sort of trivial.
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 *----
500 Unknown command, '*'
050 I've purchased a few radios that I couldn't legally operate to their
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050 fullest extent with the license class I held at that time.  Some
500 Unknown command, 'fullest'
050 people don't use every feature of their new equipment.  Others might
500 Unknown command, 'people'
050 consider it good incentive to upgrade.  Still others might just want
500 Unknown command, 'consider'
050 it for modification or as a source of parts.
500 Unknown command, 'it'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 If I felt the radio would be used in a way that would interfere with
500 Unknown command, 'If'
050 legitimate services, or be put into CB use, I wouldn't sell.  Otherwise
500 Unknown command, 'legitimate'
050 I don't consider it my business.  I buy a lot of surplus commercial
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050 radio equipment.  Nobody has ever demanded that I be licensed to use
500 Unknown command, 'radio'
050 it before I buy it.
500 Unknown command, 'it'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 --
500 Unknown command, '-'
050 	Mike Berger
500 Unknown command, '	'
050 	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
500 Unknown command, '	'
050 	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
500 Unknown command, '	'
050 	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
500 Unknown command, '	'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 11 Sep 92 23:14:32 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!pilot.njin.net!ron@uunet.uu.net
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: Using Ham Equipment in Other Services
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 > Is it lawful to use ham equipment in other services?
500 Unknown command, '>'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 With the exception of certain rare exceptions like CAP, MARS, and
500 Unknown command, 'With'
050 RACES, no.
500 Unknown command, 'RACES'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 > 4 watts for am, it would be illegal to trans mit in CB channels with
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > a ham HF rig.  That only a type accepted cb transmitter is accepatable.
500 Unknown command, '>'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 This indeed is the case.  The radio must be type accepted.
500 Unknown command, 'This'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 > Assuming a 2 meter rig can transmit in the Marine radio bands is it legal
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > to use to for communicating with other boats? Or is another special liscense
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > required(I thought I read it was). Even if a liscense is required
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > do I have to use a type accepted marine radio like I do for CB?
500 Unknown command, '>'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 No, the radio must be type accepted.  A license is required for marine
500 Unknown command, 'No'
050 use as well (even for type accepted radios).
500 Unknown command, 'use'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 In general, hams are the only ones who can get by with using radios
500 Unknown command, 'In'
050 that are not type excepted (there are also real experimental licenses
500 Unknown command, 'that'
050 as well).  In addition, you won't find a radio that is type accepted
500 Unknown command, 'as'
050 for one of these other services and coincidentally a ham radio because
500 Unknown command, 'for'
050 as of late, the radios must not be user settable to out of band
500 Unknown command, 'as'
050 operation (though, a manufacturers idea of what this means is pretty
500 Unknown command, 'operation'
050 open, ICOM commercial radios for example have a magic programming
500 Unknown command, 'open'
050 mode).
500 Unknown command, 'mode'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 > Lastly please post the frequency for marine channel 16(emergency channel),
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > since surely it would be licit to transmit here in an emergency situation
500 Unknown command, '>'
050 > with a 2 meter ham rig.
500 Unknown command, '>'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 In an emergency, you could use spark gap if you had to.  I don't have
500 Unknown command, 'In'
050 any idea what freq. channel 16 is though.
500 Unknown command, 'any'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Date: 12 Sep 92 01:46:21 GMT
500 Unknown command, 'Date'
050 From: lll-winken!novax.llnl.gov!urbina@ames.arpa
500 Unknown command, 'From'
050 Subject: What's the difference....?
500 Unknown command, 'Subject'
050 To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
500 Unknown command, 'To'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 What's the difference between spread spectrum and frequency hopping ?
500 Unknown command, 'What'
050 Also, what is meant by "BURST" transmission ?
500 Unknown command, 'Also'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Any other brief descriptions of Interception Countermeasures now being used
500 Unknown command, 'Any'
050 would be appreciated.
500 Unknown command, 'would'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Thanx.
500 Unknown command, 'Thanx'
050 Guy
500 Unknown command, 'Guy'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Urbina@Novax.llnl.gov
500 Unknown command, 'Urbina'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 End of Info-Hams Digest V92 #950
500 Unknown command, 'End'
050 ******************************
500 Unknown command, '*'
050 .
500 Unknown command, '.'

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Info-Hams Digest            Fri, 11 Sep 92       Volume 92 : Issue 950

Today's Topics:
     BULLETIN: Monthly Reports for August 1992 are Now Available
           DJ-580T problem with audio drop out using T-SQL
                           enough, already
                  Hamfest Bogus Check Alert (2 msgs)
                  Jamboree-On-The-Air (17-18/10/92)
                            ORBS$256.AMSAT
                            RFI Shielding
                 Selling rigs to unlicensed personnel
                Using Ham Equipment in Other Services
                      What's the difference....?

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Date: 12 Sep 92 00:47:19 GMT
From: ubc-cs!unixg.ubc.ca!kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca!acs.ucalgary.ca!honte.uleth.ca!r
Subject: BULLETIN: Monthly Reports for August 1992 are Now Available
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

                  /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

                                SOLAR BULLETIN

                              12 September, 1992

                        Monthly Reports for August 1992

                  /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\


MONTHLY REPORTS OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY FOR AUGUST ARE NOW AVAILABLE:

     A new monthly report is being provided.  A complete summary of all solar
regions numbered during the month of August along with all associated region
statistics can be found in the file "augrgn.doc".

     The monthly reports of solar and geophysical activity for the month of
August 1992 are now available through anonymous FTP from the following sites:

xi.uleth.ca        <-->  142.66.3.29  <--> "pub/solar/1992"
nic.funet.fi       <--> 128.214.6.100 <--> "pub/dx/solarreports" and subdirs
solar.stanford.edu <-->   36.10.0.4   <--> "pub/1992" and subdirectories

Also, preliminary monthly ionospheric data are available from either of the
last two sites above (nic.funet.fi or xi.uleth.ca).  Data reported includes
M(3000)F2, foF2, MUF(3000)F2, and TEC.

The files to get are:

*NEW*"augrgn.doc"     - Summary of All Solar Regions for the Month of August.

     "augflr.doc"     - Summary of Solar Energetic Events for August 1992.

     "augmag.doc"     - Summary of Global Geomagnetic Activity for August.

     "iono-aug.zip"   - Summary of Ionospheric Data, compressed using ZIP.

     "iono-aug.zoo"   - Summary of Ionospheric Data, compressed using ZOO.

     "iono-aug.tar.Z" - Summary of Ionospheric Data, TAR'd and COMPRESSed.

     "augtec.zip"     - Summary of Global Total Electron Content (TEC),
                        compressed using ZIP.

     "augtec.zoo"     - Summary of Global TEC, compressed using ZOO.

     "augtec.tar.Z"   - Summary of Global TEC, TAR'd and COMPRESSed.

     "sgdb-aug.zip"   - Archive of all Daily Solar Geophysical Data
                        Broadcasts (SGDBs) for August using ZIP.

     "sgdb-aug.zoo"   - Archive of all SGDBs, compressed using ZOO.

     "sgdb-aug.tar.Z" - Archive of all SGDBs, TAR'd and COMPRESSed.


**  End of Bulletin  **

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Date: 11 Sep 92 04:06:06 GMT
From: spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.ysu.edu!malgudi.oar.net!chemab
Subject: DJ-580T problem with audio drop out using T-SQL
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Keywords: Alinco DJ-580T problem tone squelch
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:39:35 GMT

Also owning a DJ580-T myself I notice a similar problem with the Tone
Squelch in repeater usage.  While I have no trouble opening up the repeater
I find the the conservation tends to come off and on even though the
Smeter has a FULL reading.  This happens whether or not I switch bands.
Sometimes the audio opens up, sometimes it dosen't.  I thought I followed
the instructions in the manual, but I could be wrong.

Could it be that the repeater dosen't always properly re-trans the
sub audible tone, and that maybe it is getting clipped?

I thought that the battery save feature might be affecting this, but turning
it off seems to make little difference.

73's DE KB5UDF

kb5udf@usl.edu
.

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:04:44 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!convex!usenet@network.UCSD.E
Subject: enough, already
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1992Sep11.211129.4061@cs.rose-hulman.edu> derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman
}
}As the instigator of the great "batteries on concrete floor diatribe", I
}would like to recommend that we call it quits.
}
End it? You can't do that: Doug DeMaw is writing an article on using your
Garage floor to power your QRP rig during fieldday!

--
Tony J. Podrasky |  What's this thing?
 San Diego , Ca   |  It's called a MODEM.
tonyp@convex.com |  And what's this button for?
WA2EAA NNNN ZCZC  |  Whatever you do, don't touc{{{7bh6xx!{@%%hxbd&$#)$% NO CARR

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Date: 11 Sep 1992 23:05:09 GMT
From: ucsd.edu!brian@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Hamfest Bogus Check Alert
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Every time I have opened a checking account, they have asked me what
number I wanted the checks to start with.  Usually I pick a number
in the thousands.
	- Brian

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Date: 11 Sep 92 22:31:43 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!ne
Subject: Hamfest Bogus Check Alert
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1992Sep11.205921.24963@mtu.edu> mtjachim@mtu.edu (Mr. M. T. Jachimst
>randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>>1) A low check number.  The account may just
>>have been opened.  Be suspicious of check numbers below 500.
>>
>
>I have problem with this, no mattewr how true it may be. Just
>because somebody just opened their checking account doesn't mean
>that they should automatically be under suspicion. I had
>an account at a credit union in the city where my father used to work.
>When he changed jobs, it was no longer worth our time to do our
>banking in that city. I had to close that account and open up
>a brand new one. Even though I've had checking accounts for
>years, my check numbers are now around 130.
>

I have moved a number of times over the last 18 years, and when I
open a new account, I merely order the checks starting with a
higher number (i.e. start at 1000 rather than 100), it eliminates
a lot of unwarranted prejudice.  I think it was Utah where the
banks print the month and year your account was opened on the
checks, but it seemed people eyed the check number more often.

John

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Date: 11 Sep 92 13:27:17 GMT
From: mcsun!uknet!dsbc!ozz!prs@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Jamboree-On-The-Air (17-18/10/92)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

This is a reminder to all UK participants in this year's Jamboree-On-The-Air
that you must register yourselves with Scout Headquarter BEFORE the event.
This will enable you to gain the pre-JOTA newsletter, gain valuable resource
material and information on other stations and become part of the annual
statistics.

More information from the National Adviser (Amateur Radio):
	Paul Bateman G1ZOV,
	tel: 081-998 1921

or contact the Programme & Training  Department at Gilwell Park:
	tel: 081-524 5248

73 es Good Scouting

de Peter G0PUB (JOTA GB2PL)

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Date: 11 Sep 1992 16:44:40 -0700
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: ORBS$256.AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.O
Orbital Elements  256.OSCAR

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES
FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.O
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: AO-10
Catalog number: 14129
Epoch time:      92227.67653450
Element set:     889
Inclination:       26.7268 deg
RA of node:        68.9017 deg
Eccentricity:    0.6028962
Arg of perigee:     8.6060 deg
Mean anomaly:     358.5849 deg
Mean motion:    2.05882051 rev/day
Decay rate:       -3.7e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            6895
Checksum:              339

Satellite: UO-11
Catalog number: 14781
Epoch time:      92253.63499235
Element set:     298
Inclination:       97.8442 deg
RA of node:       286.0458 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0011708
Arg of perigee:   167.2521 deg
Mean anomaly:     192.8984 deg
Mean motion:   14.68650194 rev/day
Decay rate:       2.99e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           45553
Checksum:              349

Satellite: RS-10/11
Catalog number: 18129
Epoch time:      92254.97994470
Element set:     324
Inclination:       82.9232 deg
RA of node:        84.9859 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0012549
Arg of perigee:    18.2274 deg
Mean anomaly:     341.9298 deg
Mean motion:   13.72293930 rev/day
Decay rate:       1.75e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           26155
Checksum:              335

Satellite: AO-13
Catalog number: 19216
Epoch time:      92250.77567606
Element set:     448
Inclination:       57.2283 deg
RA of node:         3.1239 deg
Eccentricity:    0.7292261
Arg of perigee:   295.5417 deg
Mean anomaly:       8.5329 deg
Mean motion:    2.09720197 rev/day
Decay rate:      -1.46e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            3241
Checksum:              304

Satellite: FO-20
Catalog number: 20480
Epoch time:      92243.74437316
Element set:     382
Inclination:       99.0703 deg
RA of node:       148.4108 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0541132
Arg of perigee:    24.2642 deg
Mean anomaly:     338.2951 deg
Mean motion:   12.83213243 rev/day
Decay rate:       -8.0e-08 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           12006
Checksum:              264

Satellite: AO-21
Catalog number: 21087
Epoch time:      92254.51818042
Element set:     495
Inclination:       82.9403 deg
RA of node:       259.7735 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0037055
Arg of perigee:    81.0964 deg
Mean anomaly:     279.4398 deg
Mean motion:   13.74492423 rev/day
Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            8102
Checksum:              312

Satellite: RS-12/13
Catalog number: 21089
Epoch time:      92242.76591364
Element set:     300
Inclination:       82.9273 deg
RA of node:       138.2227 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0029246
Arg of perigee:   134.0620 deg
Mean anomaly:     226.2950 deg
Mean motion:   13.73999150 rev/day
Decay rate:        4.1e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            7850
Checksum:              294

/EX
SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.D
Orbital Elements  256.MICROS

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS
FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.D
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: UO-14
Catalog number: 20437
Epoch time:      92252.67065254
Element set:     617
Inclination:       98.6371 deg
RA of node:       333.7939 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0010888
Arg of perigee:   292.8506 deg
Mean anomaly:      67.1527 deg
Mean motion:   14.29668255 rev/day
Decay rate:        7.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           13720
Checksum:              327

Satellite: AO-16
Catalog number: 20439
Epoch time:      92236.72664479
Element set:     488
Inclination:       98.6422 deg
RA of node:       318.6280 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0011845
Arg of perigee:   342.9772 deg
Mean anomaly:      17.1011 deg
Mean motion:   14.29729314 rev/day
Decay rate:        8.7e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           13493
Checksum:              323

Satellite: DO-17
Catalog number: 20440
Epoch time:      92251.71853570
Element set:     490
Inclination:       98.6415 deg
RA of node:       333.6363 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0010985
Arg of perigee:   298.5546 deg
Mean anomaly:      61.4530 deg
Mean motion:   14.29859354 rev/day
Decay rate:        7.0e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           13708
Checksum:              314

Satellite: WO-18
Catalog number: 20441
Epoch time:      92252.73463712
Element set:     490
Inclination:       98.6414 deg
RA of node:       334.6869 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0011368
Arg of perigee:   294.9583 deg
Mean anomaly:      65.0418 deg
Mean motion:   14.29850038 rev/day
Decay rate:        6.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           13723
Checksum:              315

Satellite: LO-19
Catalog number: 20442
Epoch time:      92246.73599032
Element set:     489
Inclination:       98.6420 deg
RA of node:       328.8597 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0012064
Arg of perigee:   313.0040 deg
Mean anomaly:      47.0130 deg
Mean motion:   14.29933319 rev/day
Decay rate:        7.6e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           13638
Checksum:              303

Satellite: UO-22
Catalog number: 21575
Epoch time:      92251.71236010
Element set:     190
Inclination:       98.5040 deg
RA of node:       325.9493 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0008607
Arg of perigee:    61.2325 deg
Mean anomaly:     298.9725 deg
Mean motion:   14.36691037 rev/day
Decay rate:        8.9e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            6010
Checksum:              291

Satellite: KO-23
Catalog number: 22079
Epoch time:      92248.30475323
Element set:      11
Inclination:       66.0857 deg
RA of node:       202.7436 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0015397
Arg of perigee:   257.7944 deg
Mean anomaly:     100.7018 deg
Mean motion:   12.86274000 rev/day
Decay rate:       8.22e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:             314
Checksum:              275

/EX
SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.W
Orbital Elements  256.WEATHER

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR WEATHER SATELLITES
FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.W
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: NOAA-9
Catalog number: 15427
Epoch time:      92252.63021565
Element set:     165
Inclination:       99.1389 deg
RA of node:       281.4312 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0014210
Arg of perigee:   239.7686 deg
Mean anomaly:     120.2102 deg
Mean motion:   14.13431394 rev/day
Decay rate:       3.36e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           39900
Checksum:              281

Satellite: NOAA-10
Catalog number: 16969
Epoch time:      92253.08993274
Element set:      11
Inclination:       98.5343 deg
RA of node:       270.2555 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0014284
Arg of perigee:    58.8538 deg
Mean anomaly:     301.4061 deg
Mean motion:   14.24699237 rev/day
Decay rate:       1.92e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           31060
Checksum:              305

Satellite: MET-2/17
Catalog number: 18820
Epoch time:      92252.01332515
Element set:     747
Inclination:       82.5394 deg
RA of node:        63.3541 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0015796
Arg of perigee:   195.8977 deg
Mean anomaly:     164.1683 deg
Mean motion:   13.84647736 rev/day
Decay rate:        3.5e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           23279
Checksum:              334

Satellite: MET-3/2
Catalog number: 19336
Epoch time:      92253.54841037
Element set:     953
Inclination:       82.5398 deg
RA of node:        60.5371 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0018246
Arg of perigee:    75.8417 deg
Mean anomaly:     284.4731 deg
Mean motion:   13.16950323 rev/day
Decay rate:        1.9e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           19827
Checksum:              317

Satellite: NOAA-11
Catalog number: 19531
Epoch time:      92252.66038930
Element set:     907
Inclination:       99.0913 deg
RA of node:       217.5078 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0012131
Arg of perigee:   146.9111 deg
Mean anomaly:     213.2787 deg
Mean motion:   14.12736595 rev/day
Decay rate:       3.36e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           20392
Checksum:              295

Satellite: MET-2/18
Catalog number: 19851
Epoch time:      92239.25650665
Element set:     696
Inclination:       82.5214 deg
RA of node:       310.0379 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0013544
Arg of perigee:   281.9334 deg
Mean anomaly:      78.0307 deg
Mean motion:   13.84296365 rev/day
Decay rate:        6.0e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           17638
Checksum:              322

Satellite: MET-3/3
Catalog number: 20305
Epoch time:      92249.39352226
Element set:     602
Inclination:       82.5478 deg
RA of node:         5.7752 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0016053
Arg of perigee:   101.2443 deg
Mean anomaly:     259.0484 deg
Mean motion:   13.16002521 rev/day
Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           13764
Checksum:              264

Satellite: MET-2/19
Catalog number: 20670
Epoch time:      92242.87437057
Element set:     445
Inclination:       82.5442 deg
RA of node:         9.7478 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0014880
Arg of perigee:   186.5421 deg
Mean anomaly:     173.5548 deg
Mean motion:   13.84135065 rev/day
Decay rate:        3.7e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           10982
Checksum:              318

Satellite: FY-1/2
Catalog number: 20788
Epoch time:      92250.57949054
Element set:     416
Inclination:       98.8965 deg
RA of node:       278.6867 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0016100
Arg of perigee:    17.3591 deg
Mean anomaly:     342.8121 deg
Mean motion:   14.01283543 rev/day
Decay rate:       3.71e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           10286
Checksum:              313

Satellite: MET-2/20
Catalog number: 20826
Epoch time:      92242.65779942
Element set:     447
Inclination:       82.5266 deg
RA of node:       308.3167 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0014276
Arg of perigee:    85.8053 deg
Mean anomaly:     274.4739 deg
Mean motion:   13.83509135 rev/day
Decay rate:        6.2e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            9697
Checksum:              335

Satellite: MET-3/4
Catalog number: 21232
Epoch time:      92242.58233399
Element set:     246
Inclination:       82.5438 deg
RA of node:       273.9318 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0019078
Arg of perigee:    37.9621 deg
Mean anomaly:     322.2863 deg
Mean motion:   13.16810857 rev/day
Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            6494
Checksum:              313

Satellite: NOAA-12
Catalog number: 21263
Epoch time:      92252.11867843
Element set:     366
Inclination:       98.6900 deg
RA of node:       280.8446 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0012072
Arg of perigee:   313.9723 deg
Mean anomaly:      46.0494 deg
Mean motion:   14.22099940 rev/day
Decay rate:       1.87e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            6855
Checksum:              311

Satellite: MET-3/5
Catalog number: 21655
Epoch time:      92242.96532140
Element set:     313
Inclination:       82.5523 deg
RA of node:       220.1656 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0015004
Arg of perigee:    39.9233 deg
Mean anomaly:     320.2990 deg
Mean motion:   13.16808416 rev/day
Decay rate:        4.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            5009
Checksum:              264

/EX
SB KEPS @ AMSAT  $ORBS-256.M
Orbital Elements  256.MISC

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 12, 1992  BID:$ORBS-256.M
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: MIR
Catalog number: 16609
Epoch time:      92255.24686121
Element set:     542
Inclination:       51.6250 deg
RA of node:       177.3408 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0003423
Arg of perigee:   140.4248 deg
Mean anomaly:     219.6930 deg
Mean motion:   15.53954588 rev/day
Decay rate:     4.1933e-04 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           37566
Checksum:              307

Satellite: HUBBLE
Catalog number: 20580
Epoch time:      92254.79124062
Element set:     845
Inclination:       28.4698 deg
RA of node:        63.6116 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0004754
Arg of perigee:   358.8180 deg
Mean anomaly:       1.2412 deg
Mean motion:   14.91740039 rev/day
Decay rate:      1.596e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           12974
Checksum:              298

Satellite: GRO
Catalog number: 21225
Epoch time:      92249.22021221
Element set:     679
Inclination:       28.4615 deg
RA of node:       195.4379 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0005922
Arg of perigee:    82.2497 deg
Mean anomaly:     277.8811 deg
Mean motion:   15.60113978 rev/day
Decay rate:     1.6716e-04 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            8049
Checksum:              310

Satellite: UARS
Catalog number: 21701
Epoch time:      92235.16609408
Element set:     179
Inclination:       56.9891 deg
RA of node:       299.9089 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0004813
Arg of perigee:    88.1664 deg
Mean anomaly:     272.0055 deg
Mean motion:   14.96350401 rev/day
Decay rate:     -1.169e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            5153
Checksum:              310

Satellite: SARA
Catalog number: 21578
Epoch time:      92239.73732592
Element set:     311
Inclination:       98.5079 deg
RA of node:       314.5200 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0005717
Arg of perigee:    97.4465 deg
Mean anomaly:     262.7372 deg
Mean motion:   14.37882432 rev/day
Decay rate:       5.81e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            5840
Checksum:              310

/EX

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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:08:17 GMT
From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!wdc!mark@uunet.uu.net
Subject: RFI Shielding
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <11SEP199217084340@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, afpauls@lims01.lerc.nasa.go
|> I have an application where the keying of hand held radio (160 MHZ) is
|> causing an unacceptable disturbance in the signal coming from a position
|> transducer.  The position transducer has a signal conditioner mounted
|> remotely from the sensor head.  The interferance is picked up at the signal
|> conditioner.  If feel that the best way to solve this problem would be to
|> mount the signal conditioner in an RFI proof enclosure.  Here are my
|> questions.

The remotely mounted signal conditioner allows the the long input cable to picku
Even if you shield the cable, you may be picking up some common-mode RFI at the
conditioner (both wires receiving the same signal with the signal conditioner ha
poor common-mode rejection of HF signals.

Is there some physical reason for not mounting the signal conditioner right at t
sensor transducer (this would help tremendously if the output of the signal cond
is low-impedance, high drive.

If you cannot locate the box near the sensor, try connecting using a twisted pai
cable between them.  First try both ends of cable shield to good 0vdc ground.  A
connecting the shield to a good ground only at the sensor.  Another solution for
RFI would be ferrite beads on both signal lines at the signal conditioner end.

Unfortunately RFI/EMI is as much of an art as it is a science.

Mark

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:42:21 GMT
From: usc!rpi!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!atropa!berger@network.U
Subject: Selling rigs to unlicensed personnel
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

lwwald@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (LARRY WALD) writes:
>This is in reference to the current thread about someone buying an Alinco
>580T who did not have a license.
>Given that an individual may go into a gun store and purchase a rifle,
>shotgun, or pistol, and not need to provide any proof of their ability to
>safely handle, shoot, store, and understand their weapon, then the idea of
>a person absolutely having a license to purchase a rig is sort of trivial.
*----
I've purchased a few radios that I couldn't legally operate to their
fullest extent with the license class I held at that time.  Some
people don't use every feature of their new equipment.  Others might
consider it good incentive to upgrade.  Still others might just want
it for modification or as a source of parts.

If I felt the radio would be used in a way that would interfere with
legitimate services, or be put into CB use, I wouldn't sell.  Otherwise
I don't consider it my business.  I buy a lot of surplus commercial
radio equipment.  Nobody has ever demanded that I be licensed to use
it before I buy it.

--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu

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Date: 11 Sep 92 23:14:32 GMT
From: dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!pilot.njin.net!ron@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Using Ham Equipment in Other Services
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

> Is it lawful to use ham equipment in other services?

With the exception of certain rare exceptions like CAP, MARS, and
RACES, no.

> 4 watts for am, it would be illegal to trans mit in CB channels with
> a ham HF rig.  That only a type accepted cb transmitter is accepatable.

This indeed is the case.  The radio must be type accepted.

> Assuming a 2 meter rig can transmit in the Marine radio bands is it legal
> to use to for communicating with other boats? Or is another special liscense
> required(I thought I read it was). Even if a liscense is required
> do I have to use a type accepted marine radio like I do for CB?

No, the radio must be type accepted.  A license is required for marine
use as well (even for type accepted radios).

In general, hams are the only ones who can get by with using radios
that are not type excepted (there are also real experimental licenses
as well).  In addition, you won't find a radio that is type accepted
for one of these other services and coincidentally a ham radio because
as of late, the radios must not be user settable to out of band
operation (though, a manufacturers idea of what this means is pretty
open, ICOM commercial radios for example have a magic programming
mode).

> Lastly please post the frequency for marine channel 16(emergency channel),
> since surely it would be licit to transmit here in an emergency situation
> with a 2 meter ham rig.

In an emergency, you could use spark gap if you had to.  I don't have
any idea what freq. channel 16 is though.

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Date: 12 Sep 92 01:46:21 GMT
From: lll-winken!novax.llnl.gov!urbina@ames.arpa
Subject: What's the difference....?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

What's the difference between spread spectrum and frequency hopping ?
Also, what is meant by "BURST" transmission ?

Any other brief descriptions of Interception Countermeasures now being used
would be appreciated.

Thanx.
Guy

Urbina@Novax.llnl.gov

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