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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: C-band on a 5' dish!?
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:11:24 GMT
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In <1992Oct09.141833.14649@rchland.ibm.com> oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin) writes:

>I wouldn't think that you'd get a decent picture on a 5' dish. 

The transponders on G5 are 24 watt transponders.

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From: cbetz@radioman.cray.com (Charles Betz 66442)
Subject: Drake 1524 IRD 
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:42:43 CDT



>>Hope you enjoy the 1524,

>me too...

Back on August 1st I happened through Fergus Falls, MN on my way home
from vacation, so I stopped in at Skyvision just for the fun of it.

I talked to Allen (the host of the Skyvision show) and had him
demonstrate the Drake 1524 they had on display.  They had the unit
hooked up to a 60 inch big screen tv and the video quality on C1 
was the absolute best I've ever seen.  I was very impressed.  If I
were buying a unit today, I think I'd probably go for the Drake,
although I am very happy with my Tracker X.  Anyway, Gary, I think
that you will like this unit very much.

The one thing I never did inquire about while at Skyvision was what
dish they had their Drake hooked up to.  They did have a 16 foot
Orbitron on display out front....



Charlie Betz
Cray Research, Inc. 
cbetz@romulus.cray.com
From: Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com (MUMPS Wizard)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Wild Feeds listing -- better than first time, but...
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:35:09 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Int'l, Corp. - Computer systems operation

roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes (in part):
>
>Here is the latest Wild feeds chart.  It is better than the
>first time, but there still is a lot of work to do.  It
>can only get better than this.
>	.
>	.
>	.
>In the Heat of the Nght 3p      T1/13   MTWHF
 
This should read 3 am, not 3 pm.
 
>	.
>	.
>	.
>UNVERIFIED
>	.
>	.
>	.
>Picket Fences           3a      T3/18   W
 
Consider this verified as not.  T3/18 is used by FOX.  I doubt they would feed
a CBS show.  (But I checked it this morning just to be sure.)
 
Mark Berryman
Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: question for South Scanner readers to answer...
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:20:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.k8rp-!j
Distribution: na
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <01050027.g911k7@fractal.infoserv.com> fractal@infoserv.com (Tom Hedges) writes:
>I think it's a great idea for those who can 'see' to the East. Although
>my house is blessed with an excellent view of the Clarke belt, it
>is in central California and I therefore can't be of much help.

Same situation here, except I'm in New Mexico.  That's why someone
on the east coast would have to keep that section updated.

>project. If only there were more birds out over the Pacific!
>

As I told one person in Email this afternoon, I wouldn't be
worried about the lack of birds out over the Pacific.  I have this
feeling -- based on the news I've posted recently -- that the Pacific
will become a satellite hotbed (like what the Atlantic is now with
Intelsats/PanAmSats, etc).  Intelsat seems to be making an
effort to improve telecommunications across the Pacific, which means
we may get some good satellites over the Pacific to view.

BTW, the more I think about it... I probably would have added
a Pacific section if there were birds that I could get that
were over the Pacific Ocean (I mean far over the Pacific, not
just the C1, C5, G1, etc that are currently over the Eastern
Pacific Ocean).  

I am still not sure what to do with the SouthScanner thing.  I've
received a few Email msgs saying don't do it (no access from
Pacific Coast) and some saying do it.  I think voting may be
in the works -- after all, this is a democracy.  Maybe I'll
just put it in there since _some_ North American dishowners
can see them (completeness of chart for the North American 
dishowners).

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
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From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: Drake 1524
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:23:55 GMT
Reply-To: oester@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

What you like/dislike in IRD's can get a little religious. In any case here are 
observations after having owned one for about 3 months:

Picture Quality - Second to none! (I told you it gets religious!)

User interface - good, but could be better. Specifically about Gary's question
on the "blue screen" - I can't see any way to change it (at least the way it's
shipped). Overall I'm not to bothered by it - and I do a *lot* of looking around.
During normal operation, the only time that I think it gets in the way is when 
you're trying to select the audio sub-carrier - then you get the blue screen 
without any video. But, when you're setting the skew (polarity) and moving the
dish, you don't get blanked out. You get it to select a new satellite, but as
soon as you select it, it goes back to live video.

Programming - my biggest peeve. No way to get to Program mode from the remote.
You have to hold down channel up on the receiver and push power on at the same
time to enter it.

I was over help out someone with their dish on Sunday and he had a Monterey 90.
The picture quality was good (but then again if you have a strong signal it
probably makes little difference). This is another place the Drake excells - it
continues to amaze me the signal it will pull out of the mud. I just finished 
re-aligning my dish. (It turns out I was 3-4 degrees too far west). Before, the
East and West ends were barely watchable - but the Drake managed to pull something
in. On the west end I'm literally shooting 90% thru the trees and most of the 
Transponders on C1 (F1) are clear.

It's also easy to slew the dish East/West manually with the Drake - just push
East and West. With the Monterey, I couldn't see any way to move it without
going into a program mode (menu-7-enter) - then East/West would work. But
you had to be careful not to update the Sat position!

Bob

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You are in a maze of twisty little #ifdef's, all alike.
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From: scotto@ipars.cts.com (Scott O'Connell)
Subject: Re: Toshiba vs. Chaparral
Organization: Spectrum Data Services - Carlsbad, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:04:09 GMT
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Gerald Simon (jsimon@rchland.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
: 
: I've had a Montery 90 for a couple weeks now and have no complaints with it.
: I feel the remote is fine, the picture quality is GREAT, and have no problems
: with it.  It's full of features (some of which I haven't played with - or
: found - yet).  I don't understand why people complain about the remote
: for the Montery......it's layed out well, labled and easy to understand.

I've had a Montery 90 for about 6 months now and have one major complaint --
the remote is *very* sluggish.

I talked with a friend who has the 50 and he's seen the same thing.  I'm 
probably a little pickier (sp?) than some but don't see how they can get
away with such a sloppy user interface.
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:50:59 -0400
From:         Elmer Beachley <etb@CS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: baseball

rao:

"natural sound" is tv talk for the background, ambient sound (e.g., crowd
noise, street sounds) without any narration.  this is often recorded on a
separate track so that the narration can be later replaced or edited
easily.  if you have a dish, watch some newfeeds.  they are often fed
twice, once with narration and nat. sound, once nat. sound only.

now, what's a sound bite?  ;-)

elmer etb@cs.pitt.edu
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:14:54 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Trivia quiz - What's This Equipment????

>Hi folks. My B-in-law, who knows nothing about satellite, had a dish donated
>to him. I went out to see what he had and I am somewhat puzzled by what I saw.

>The dish is a 12' Comtech dish with a hand-crank mount. The weird part is the
>lnb(a?)s. I first thought the dish had c/ku capability since it had two lnbs
>but now I'm not sure. Both are Avantek model number AWC-42100 and are listed
>as 100k. They are mounted on a SEA model ESA-44 feedhorn. One lnb sticks off
>the end of the feed horn. The other sticks out the side. Also, the one that
>sticks out the side seems to be rotated 90 degrees from the other.

>My questions are:
>   1. Is this an old commercial setup that allows reception of both h and v
>      transponders at the same time?

Yes that is what you have, an ORTHO feed, separate C band LNB's one H and one
v, and noise temperature of 100 degrees is pretty poor by today;s standards.

>   2. Could a KU lnb be substituted for one of the two?

No.  KU band LNB's are teensy things.  You need a C/KU feed and you should
use a SINGLE (BETTER) C band LNB.

>   3. Are feedhorns specific to the focal length of the dish, ie. could
>      I take this feedhorn and mount it on my 8' dish with any chance of
>      it working?

They are adjustable.

>   4. Generally, is this worth messing with? The dish seems to be in good
>      shape, but I don't know if it would be easy to find a motor drive
>      for it.

It would be fine as a fixed dish system.  A good SECOND dish.


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From: cbetz@radioman.cray.com (Charles Betz 66442)
Subject: Re: NFL week 6 backhaul locations on my avail. satellites
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:27:43 CDT


In article <b!qpbmc@lynx.unm.edu>, roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes:
> 
> It was a poor week for me as far as finding backhauls.  My guess
> is that the backhauls were common on G2 (sunout problems --
> G2 had sunout very early in the day so when the 1p ET games
> rolled around, G2 was out of sunout danger [my personal theory]).
> 
> Anyway, here is what I came up with:
> 
> Cowboys/Seahawks NBC  Did not find
> Steelers/Browns NBC  Did not find
> Dolphins/Falcons CBS  Did not find
> Cards/Giants CBS Did not find
> 49ers/Patriots CBS Did not find
> Eagles/Chiefs CBS ITC on SBS5/12
> Bengals/Oilers NBC ITC on K2/11 (Integrated)
> Jets/Colts NBC ITC on K1/15
> Bills/Raiders NBC Did not find backhaul -- but tons of aff. feeds
> NFL Live backhaul ITC on SBS2/3
> Rams/Saints TNT LEITCH on G6/9
> Rams/Saints TNT ITC on SBS6/10
> Broncos/Redskins ABC ITC on G1/14
> 
> BTW, the ABC MNF pre-game was good.  I found some good "clip-music".
> 
> Robert
> roberts@triton.unm.edu
> Albuquerque, New Mexico USA  The Land of Enchantment
> 


Robert,

FYI, while I was tuning around on Monday night, I also found an ABC
backhaul of the Broncos/Redskins game on G2/20.


Charlie Betz
Cray Research, Inc.    Chippewa Falls, WI
cbetz@romulus.cray.com
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Subject: RE:High Density DISKS in An AT&T
From: Larry Peterson <CC38@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:55:39 CST
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
From: johnboy@ocdis01.oc.aflc.af.mil
In your message of  7 Oct 1992 at 1642 CDT, you write:
> I have noticed that Jameco in California sells such a controller.

Do I just call and ask them about a floppy controller that has its own
BIOS?
------------------------End Original message----------------------------

The item you are looking for is Jameco Part Number 19617 it costs 49.95
plus shipping......

BUT BUT BUTBUT --------------
Make sure you can disable the Floppy Controller on the Mother Board of
the AT&T 6300.  If you cannot then the controller will be of no use
because there will be an address and perhaps a floppy Interrupt
conflict!  If this occurs your floppy drives will not work!

The Tel number for Jamecs Computer Repair and Support number is
1-800-831-8020, West Coast time zone.

Good Luck
Larry
CC38@SDSUMUS.BITNET
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Scrounge document?
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:59:53 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Oct8.224131.15570@samba.oit.unc.edu> Curt.Miller@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Curt Miller) writes:
>	Could anyone please send me Robert Smather's Satellite
>scrounge guide.  I abtained the document from the mail server, 
>however, the document would uudecode, but wouldn't dezip.
>Thanks.

First, let me make it clear that the Scrounger's Guide is not
my work (it is Gary Bourgois's -- let's give credit where
credit is due).

I have a copy here that I could send out (might save Gary hours
of Email responding time if I were to send it out from my  
Email add).

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:23:55 CST
From:         ST9530@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Subject:      Intelsat K

What is needed to receive Intelsat K in Southern Illinois? We have a 8 1/2'
 dish and a gi 2770R with Corotor II+ with 25deg CALAMP and .7DB Gardiner.

Is this setup capable of receiving Intelsat K?

BTW: The dish has a true east/true west horizon mount, and can go almost parall
el with the ground on either end of the track.

ST9530@siucvmb.edu
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:26:19 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: SENATE TRIES TO OVERRIDE CABLE BILL VETO TODAY!

Mike says...

>>>	I DID, I called everyone in question, and we     W O N   ! ! ! ! ! ! !
><<

>Gary

>I don't understand how we won in the veto of the cable reregulation bill.  We
>now have more government interference in business ( and we all know how
>government fouls up almost everything it touches).

Well I am against government intervention in MOST cases, but frankly
SOMETHING had to be done to bring FAIR PRICING to the dish market.  The EQUAL
ACCESS provision was needed.  It is part of the law.

The only question is how will it be implimented.

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From: gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: Re: Playing with a spectrum analyzer
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 11:40:12 EDT

erik@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Erik Kilk) writes:

> Having access to a spectrum analyzer, I was playing around looking at what
> was on both the coax from the dish and on the 140 Mhz IF loop on the back of
> my Drake 1524.  If I have time, I may post some specific readings.  Instead
> I have some general observations and questions.
> 
> On the coax from the dish it was fun being able to see all the active
> transponders at once (well, at least at the polarity I was using). By 
> placing the analyzer in "maximum" mode, and switching channels, I was able
> to get a picture of all transponders simultaneously.  I was amazed how low
> the Ku band signal strengths were even when my receiver showed a nice picture
> But the largest bandwidth on my spectrum analyzer is 10 Mhz -- smaller than
> the receiver uses.  C band signals were much, much stronger -- especially G5.
> 
> On the 140 Mhz loop, I found some channels had gobs of signals stretching fro
> about 90 Mhz to 210 Mhz.  Whenever there was video present, there was lots
> of strong activity right at about 140 Mhz.  I think I also saw the auto-fine
> tune working by seeing everything slowly shift up and down in frequency until
> the strongest signal was centered at 140 Mhz.  I confirmed this by adjusting
> my fine tune manually and noticing I can shift the signals +/- 10 Mhz.
> 
> So, since the FM radio dial goes from 87 - 107 Mhz, I experimented and hooked
> up the 140 Mhz IF to my stereo receiver.  With lots of static, I was
> barely able to hear a couple things -- some voices mostly. Nothing came in
> well enough to enjoy. 
> 
> Is this an FM/AM problem?  I mean, are the signals AM and that is why my
> FM receiver didn't work?  Do those TV Band Radios cover the 90 Mz to 210 Mz
> range as well as the 70 Mz range everyone talks about?  How about those
> police scanners?  
> 
> Can someone give me some more explaination of what I was seeing?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Erik

The signals from the satellite are wideband FM, 20-70 MHz wide
for each transponder.

gerry@bluemoon.rn  My amateur radio callsign is K8EF, and my
packet radio address is K8EF@W8CQK.OH.USA.NA
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From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: ARD on ECS only, CNNI,  SOLAR, Olympus
Organization: eng
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:35:58 GMT

ARD which used to be relayed by Kopernikus and ECS F1 (13E) is now
only available on ECS. On Kopernikus a slate points to ECS.
Apparently they wanted to free the transponder on Kopernikus.
I wonder why?

CNN broadcasted its CNNI with Spanish language, also. On 27.5W I observed
that the two subcarriers next to CNN radio are used for Spanish.
Only certain programs are translated, the one I saw was the financial
program by Financial Times at 21:00 UTC
Presumably Spanish can be heard on ASTRA as well.

Media Network reported that SOLAR radio has been put off the air.
Sky-Sports audio is now been heard there. 

RAI-SAT on Olympus has disappeared, anyone knows why? Problems with Olympus
again?

Brighstar on 21.5W relays now ABC worldnews for Sky-NEWS at 20:00 UTC
Sorry I don't have the frequencies.

Jurgen


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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: GSTAR-2 update
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 02:45:09 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na


GSTAR-2 is finally in place and is operational.  I woke
up this morning and took a look... there were a few
color bar slates and feeds.

GSTAR-2 is at 125 degrees west (GSTAR-4's old slot).  Picture
quality is still quite good on my system.  

Robert

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From: robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.g.egan)
Subject: Re: Wild Feeds listing -- better than first time, but...
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:19:19 GMT
Summary: Howard Stern show cancelled


Robert Smathers can't find the Howard Stern show feed. The reason is, I
believe, his show was cancelled last Spring, so this summer was all reruns. 
WWOR which produced the show said they were cancelling it, but of course, 
Howard claimed that he decided not to do the show anymore during his radio 
show after the WWOR announcement (yeah, right).
From: gnome@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Gary)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Painting dishes - again??? And VC IRD question.
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:23:42 GMT
Distribution: na

I know that this has been discussed before, and that lots
of comments were made regarding the dangers of using paints that
turn out to be C & Ku band absorbers.  But, has anyone actually
posted any brands of paint products that A) dish manufacturers use
or B) are known to be ok for coating a mesh or solid dish?

The other thing I wanted to know is whether or not Drake IRDs
can be told to bypass the VC circuitry and output the scrambled
baseband "video"??

Gary
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From: kearns@ez-rider.West.Sun.COM (William Kearns SUN Phoenix SE 602-275-5537 x26)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: VCII, VCII+ VCRS
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:09:45 GMT
Reply-To: kearns@ez-rider.West.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ez-rider.west.sun.com

I bought a satellite system about a year ago and my understanding is that is has a VCII decoder. (Houston Tracker III+)  Now I need to up grade to VCII+/VCRS?  What is the difference?  How do I get up graded?  I've heard that General Insterments will do it for free if you send in your old unit.  Is this true?  What's the deal?


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From: flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US (Gary Bourgois)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Descriptive Video Broadcasting
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:22:58 GMT
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>I have a friend who is blind. He was asking about something called
>Descriptive Video Broadcasting which is a spoken running commentary on
>TV programs for the benefit of blind people. Does anyone know if there
>are any programs available on satellite like this?.

Nostalgia TV has movies broadcast like this.  It is on the MAIN channel.

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