From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: BUSH
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:15:42 GMT
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In article <Brt4z3.AKr@wrs.com> string@wrs.com (String) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.173107.4593@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (The Conservative) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.154210.24780@news.columbia.edu> rl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Lamoureux) writes:
>>>What evidence of this "greatness" has he shown in the last four years?
>>
>> How about the elimination of tactical nukes. The economy, no matter what the
>>media says, has grown , look at the stock market! At least Bush stood up to
>>the bullies of the world, avoided the big con known as the Earth Summit,
>>is pro-life, and congress has never given him a chance from day one!

>>Richard Dyrda   
 
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>The economy: it speaks for itself. 
>The Earth-Summit  - well by protecting a few bio-med companies, we can now
>kiss the rain forests good-bye (if we haven't already). As far as I could see
>we were the only bully there. Right now he's basically threatening to 
>dismantle the EPA and other regulatory agencies to help lower the cost of
>doing business in the US. I like this: go back to the sixties and seventies
>when pollution control was zero and big industry could do whatever it
>pleased. We can turn our cities back into the chemical wastelands they're
>meant to be. Yeah! and let's use all our new prison inmates as free labor. We'll
>make America what it was in the 50's and 60's. All those smiling white
>faces! God won't it be wonderful!
>Pro-life: yeah right, he's just pandering to the religious right. "We just want 
>to protect that cute little infant's life!" Funny thing how so many cute little
>babies grow up in the streets of America with no education or hope for a job.
>And how many cute little babies are filling up america's prisons after
>committing really heinous crimes like being black.
>Some life. Is that what you pro-lifers are for ? Do you ever step out of
>your white suburban church community or pull you head(s) out of the "sand"
>to see what is really going on in america... or do you just get all your
>paranoid notions from the 11:00 news.
>Oh yeah, then there's big george's nemisis CONGRESS: Damn, if only they didn't
>attempt to represent the people, we could control everything in a manor that's
>best for the power elite.
>I really should discount what your saying comming from Purdue; the cloistered
>little school on the banks of the Wabash. 
>
>peace,
>string.
>
>
>I hate to break it to you, but you live in a capitalistic society.
>What people in America forget is that freedom and capitalism mean
taking care of yourself and competing with other individuals for what
you want to have or who you want to become. If you believe it is the job
of the government to provide the people with everything they need, to
right all the wrongs, to make sure that life is completely fair, then
what you want is a socialistic or communistic society which is not what
America is.  I am not saying that I like the way things are but I
am living in a capitalistic society and therefore I know I am ON MY OWN 
in fighting injustices or oppression, in making a living for myself, 
and in deciding how my life turns out.  I do not expect the government
to take care of this because they cannot.

And it scares me more the restraints that they are 
putting on my life and my personal freedoms day after
day because more people want "the government to do something about"
something they consider wrong (i.e. abortion, a rap song they don't
approve of, artwork they consider obscene, etc.).  I would rather
have the freedom to make my own choices and decisions and be responsible
for fighting my own battles against prejudice then give the government
the power to do that for me.  IMO, the economy is in the bad shape its 
in because there are so many government restraints on the large industries
which provide jobs to million of people.  But the people decided that
big business was making too much money and they wanted "this law"
passed so owners could not do "this thing" and they wanted "that law"
passed so corporations would quit "messing up the environment" and the same
people who pushed to limit corporate profit and control are the same
ones who are now complaining about layoffs because big business cannot
afford to stay "big" due to these changes.  I'm not saying the changes
these companies have been required to make are bad, but they are costing
them money which means they will not be able to employ as many people. So
the people must determine whether they would rather preserve the unions,
protect the environment, charge higher taxes to these huge corporations which 
slows the economy or modify some of these changes to allow corporations
to fluorish and provide more jobs.

I know I will probably get flamed in a big way for some of these views, but
"oh well"

--Kris 
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