From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FLAME! Only a Manual!
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:12:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, 891078p@ace.acadiau.ca (Trevor Perkins) says:

>>>In article <1dck4tINNqj3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>>
>  [ lots of repeated arguements deleated ]
>
>>>>if everyone were required to learn
>>>>to drive a manual, then they would have the choice, 
>>>
>>>If everyone was _required_ to learn use a manual you would just have _removed_
>>>their freedom of choice.
>>
>>hmm..i do not recall being asked which i preferred to learn on...in fact..i 
>>recall being FORCED to learn on an auto if at all, thus, i think, they are
>>making the decision to FORCE us to learn on the WRONG type....they are trying
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>to teach autos first, and then stick if you wanna..should be the other way 
>>around..read my thread insert on typing.
>>
>   The reason they teach us on autos is so that we can concentrate more on 
>the road and other cars instead of looking at the stick.  It is much safer 
>to learn basic driving skills in an auto and then switch to a manual.

then why, preytell, do they make us spend at least 3 hours(1 driving..2
observing) in a damn parking lot?  this is where one learns to drive a
stick shift!  And it is still easier and(IMHO) better to learn stick first.
and i do not think that it is any safer..once you spend those three hours 
in that stinkin' parking lot(which SOME people may need..but is SO boring
esp. in an auto..what's to get used to???..break..gas...break..gas...ok..
turn...duh!!!!) you will KNOW how to drive a stick...would still be much
better to learn the other way around.  learning a stick is learning..
learning an auto is imitation..going through the motions...it's BACKWARDS!
and it does not promote watching the road, nor the cars. i'm sorry..but i 
cannot see that.  It is still backwards, and should be reversed..especially
when it would be so simple!


>>there is NO reason for it.
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  There is a very good reason for it as I stated 
>                         above.
like i said..there is NO reason for it.


>IMHO it is a good idea to know how to drive a manual, but if someone chooses 
>to not learn to drive a stick, that is their choice, and their problem if 
>ever the rare situation comes up that they will be stuck with a stick.
>Myself, I much prefer a stick, but that is my choice and my perogative.

but it is not my choice whether or not i "learn" to drive an auto to
be allowed to legally drive???..that makes no sense!..i repeat, yet 
again..that it would be beneficial to teach the stick in driver's ed, 
because it is a thing that needs to be taught, unlike the auto, where
you move a stick once(maybe twice) and push the gas or brake depending
on your need for greater or lesser speed.  auto first is backwards.
you are right, it is each person's choice which they choose to drive in
everyday life..but it is sad to see people who limit themselves to autos
because they were never taught, and are too afraid of either failure,
or trashing eq. to learn a stick.  backwards..noone has screwed up an auto
because they only new stick prior getting in the auto...not vice versa.
this could be easily remedied..so why allow it to continue?? there is 
no good reason..nor any reason yet that i would call a reason at all.
sad, sad indeed.
DREW
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