From: ceg@dec-4.CE.Berkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Islamic Hypocrites.
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:22:16 GMT
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Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Behnam Sadeghi, in his infinite wisdom, writes:

>1.  It doesn't require a historian to know that Qarebagh (Karabak)
>    belongs to Azerbaijan.

Oh God, the woods are full of linguists these days. Look Armenians
don't call the region Karabagh, we call it Artsakh as it was called
a thousand years before Turkic tribes arrived in the area from Central
Asia. But, lets follow your brilliant logic here and see what happens.
The Soviet name for the region is Nagorno-Kara-Bagh. The etymology is
as follows: Nagorno (Russian for mountainous), Kara (Turkish for black)
and Bagh (Arabic, borrowed by Farsi, meaning garden). So, then according
to you, it should belong to Russians, Arabs and Turks! Now Azer-baijan:
Azer (Farsi, meaning fire) Baijan (From Farsi, corruption of Payandeh,
i.e. permanent) ... remember the days of Zoroaster? So then, all of
Azerbaijan should belong to Iran. By the way, should we give all Iranian
regions/towns with Turkish names to the Turks? You have an Arab's last
name, does that make you an Arab?

>2.  Azerbaijan has offered cultural autonomy to Qarebagh.

Yeah right! Armenians are going to get cultural autonomy from the
same Azeri government that just a couple days ago started bombing
civilian areas of the regional capital, Stepanakert, with fixed wing
aircraft!!!

>3.  Speaking of "ethnic cleansing," we yet have to see any crime
>    in this war equal to the massacre committed in Khojalee, where
>    many hundreds of innocent and helpless civilians were murdered.

Where you in the cheering stands in 1988 during the Sumgait pogroms
and in 1989 during the Baku pogroms? Are you just uninformed? Can you
please explain where the Armenian populations of the regions of Sumgait,
Baku, Shamakhi, Getashen, Martunashen, Shahumian and Mardakert of
Azerbaijan are today? Hint: They are not there anymore. Call it
"cleansing" if you wish. I doubt you have even heard of these names.
Do the 400,000 Talysh of Azerbaijan, an Iranian speaking people
with language similar to Gilaki and Mazendarani, have cultural
autonomy? Have you even heard of them? Or are you just plain
ignorant?!

>4.  Iran, Turkey, Iraq, and other countries must send troops and
>    arms to help Azerbaijan.   But unfortunately, Iran now seems
>    interested only in its own internal problems, Iraq is in
>    shambles, and Turkey cannot provide major aid to Azerbaijain
>    without permission from its master, Uncle Sam.

If you don't like Uncle Sam, why don't you go back to Iran and help
liberate Karabagh for the Azeris. Once thats done, you can help 
Azerbaijan "liberate" Iranian Western and Eastern Azerbaijan.
And Behnam, here you could enlist the help of Turkish military advisors.
Oh, Farsi speakers don't have to worry. Azerbaijan will give them
cultural autonomy, the same kind of cultural autonomy that the Arabs
gave the Persians and the Turks are giving the Kurds. 

>Behnam Sadeghi

CEG

PS Behnam, while you are being such a humanitarian, why don't you
give cultural autonomy to Iran's Kurds, Bakhtiaris, Lurs, Qashqai,
Qarapaq, Afshars, Baluch, Turkoman, Arabs, and not to forget full
cultural autonomy for the Azeris! We'll talk about the kind of 
cultural autonomy Armenians have in Iran later...