From: kamprath@caen.engin.umich.edu (Michael F. Kamprath)
Subject: Re: Keeping in mind that this is AmeriKKKa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 15:51:01 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1992Jul22.202324.12692@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, e199-ac@fornax (Alexander Lee) writes:
> 
> In article <23276@alice.att.com> jj@alice.UUCP (jj@alice.att.com, curmudgeon) writes:
> 
> >Actually, I disagree.  I think you mean "rich White people can escape".
> >One thing I do not see in these articles is the understanding of
> >what economic power/powerlessness does to a person of any race,
> >including white.  Claiming that white people can escape prejudice
> >in the lega, political, and academic systems is plain wrong,
> >and the news in front of you every day shows that.  It DOES show
> >that RICH white people can escape the system.  That's a big difference.
> >
> >I'm doing my best to ignore the rest of this "down-with-honky" thread.
> >
> >While Judy's rhetoric is undoubtedly satisfying, because it sounds
> >good, it feels good to say all that stuff, and it's PC to beat up
> >on the good ol' white menace, it misses the simple point that the
> >ONLY real effect it has is offending whites, instead of making
> >them sympathetic. 
> 
> Your counter-argument to Judy is wholly based on the premise that
> we are here to please white people, to seek sympathy, and to kiss their
> white ass.  Well, I for one am getting sick and tired of it.  
> 
> I am sick and tired of hearing about how Steve Chen (the chief architect
> and innovator of Cray's Microprosessors) dicked the company over by 
> quitting because he couldn't get anywhere with management.  
> 
> I am sick and tired of hearing about how 5 asian xerox engineers 
> who formed a multi-billion dollar company based in Taiwan are obligated
> to work in this country for a management that wouldn't listen to them.
> 
> If white people persistently decide to descriminate against asians
> in corportate America, it's just going to back-fire.
> 
> 

So what you are saying is that monrities (especially Asian-Americans) have 
the right to hate, despise, and basically be racist against all whites, no
matter their beliefs, intentions, or background?

jj@alice.UUCP tried to put it as "this approach is bad because you might
alienate well intended white folk."  I'll put it another way: What goes
around comes around (Again and again, it is a closed cycle).  If I may 
enter my (White, and thereby unimportant) opinion into this: The minorities' 
struggle against rascism (though I do think it is everybody's struggle) has 
got to stop blaming every single caucasion for the problem.  Blame it on where
the problem truly comes from, rascist people.  What if I blamed you for my 
bike getting ripped off a month ago because an Asian lives next door to me?  
How would you feel?  You'd think I was an idiot and not worth the time to 
listen to.  Blaming people you don't even know just because of their skin 
color for a problem that affects you will just do the same thing.  You 
not gain any support from "the people" you want to "change."  And without
the support from White folk telling other _racist_ White folk ( Do you 
honestly think racist White folk would listen to the minority voice) that they
got it wrong, the situation will progress nowhere.  In fact, it would probaly 
degrade into violence (and if that is what you honestly want, (IMHO) you are
no better than the racist White folk).

Michael Kamprath
kamprath@caen.engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american