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From: pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN)
Subject: Re: ecology & Christianity
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:59:22 GMT

  Well, the main point of my post was to say that the idea that man
has dominion over nature couldbe traced to the Bible.  I wasn't trying
to pass any judgement on Christianity.
  But the Christian view, at least eminating from the book of Genesis, is
that man has power over the world.  Like I said before, it is his God-given
right to control nature.  Of course this doesn't mean that he has the right
to abuse it;  any intellegent Christian would see it as the opposite, that
he has the duty to maintain it.  But the idea of dominion has been abused
by many Christians, and I think the author of the original quote believed that
the best way to remedy this situation would be to get rid of the idea being
abused.  Not that I necessarily agree with her.
  
  P.S.  Go ahead and quote my saying, "The greatest fools delight in caling
others fool."  I meant it to refer to myself -- the line damns whoever says
it.  That's why it's so beautiful.  But I didn't write it...


Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: kudzu@tfs.com (Michael Sierchio)
Subject: Re: Time
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:07:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.203349.10761@news.acns.nwu.edu> 
	weasel@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Rosenberg) writes:

>"You can't make a baby in one month, even if you make nine women pregnant."
>	--A scientist who's name I couldn't remember by the time I got near 
>	  some paper

Werner Von Braun -- "Crash programs fail because they are based on the
premise that, with nine women pregnant, you'll get a baby in a month"
-- 
Michael Sierchio                               TRW Financial Systems
kudzu@tfs.com                                     1947 Center Street
                                             Berkeley, CA 94704-1105
(MKS2)                                               +1 510 704 3380
From: forster@chem.tu-berlin.de (Peter Forster)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Ockham's Razor?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:56:15 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Berlin, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: sispa.chem.tu-berlin.de

Recently there were one or two postings on the source for Ockham's Razor
and I saved them somewhere but can't find them anywhere. Of course, now
I need the source.

Could someone please repost these messages or send them to me via e-mail
(to forster@sispa.chem.tu-berlin.de, do not just 'r'eply, I think the
return address gets messed up by our news poster)

Thanks,
Peter

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Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen)
Subject: Re: Mixed quotes
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:12:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:
: 
: A printed version of this parody appears in their recent (2-3 years ago)
: anniversary issue -- the one with the cake saying "Eat Me" on the cover
: -- 

This is an oldie but goodie that makes the rounds from time to time.
Here it is again:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
				===========
				Deteriorata
				===========
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Go placidly amid the noise and waste,
And remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Avoid quiet and passive persons unless you are in need of sleep.
Rotate your tires.
Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself,
And heed well their advice, even though they be turkeys.
Know what to kiss and when.
Consider that two wrongs never make a right,
But that three lefts do.
Wherever possible put people on "HOLD".
Be comforted that in the face of all aridity and disillusionment,
And despite the changing fortunes of time,
There is always a big future in computer maintenance.
Remember the Pueblo.
Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle and mutilate.
Know yourself.  If you need help, call the FBI.
Exercise caution in your daily affairs,
Especially with those persons closest to you;
That lemon on your left for instance.
Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls,
Would scarcely get your feet wet.
Fall not in love therefore; it will stick to your face.
Carefully surrender the things of youth: birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan,
And let not the sands of time get in your lunch.
Hire people with hooks.
For a good time, call 606-4311.
Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog
Is finally getting enough cheese;
And reflect that whatever fortunes may be your lot,
It could only be worse in Milwaukee.
You are a fluke of the Universe.
You have no right to be here, and whether you can hear it or not,
The Universe is laughing behind your back.
Therefore make peace with your God whatever you conceive him to be,
Hairy Thunderer or Cosmic Muffin.
With all its hopes, dreams, promises and urban renewal,
The world continues to deteriorate.
Give up.


From the National Lampoon Radio Dinner album.


Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: rickertj@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (John Rickert)
Subject: Re: Bathroom Graffiti
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:55:03 GMT


   Used to be in one of the restrooms here...



What about the Monroe Doctine -- "Hands off"

Marilyn wrote a book?
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: ecology & Christianity
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:45:00 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

shallit@graceland.uwaterloo.ca (Jeffrey Shallit) writes:
>>
>>>"[W]e shall continue to have a worsening ecologic crisis until
>>>we reject the Christian axiom that nature has no reason for
>>>existence save to serve man."  -  Lynn White, Jr.
>>
>>>That is, the problems are due to a Christian *axiom*, not to all
>>>of Christianity.
>>
>>So.  Who made it an axiom?  Not me.  Not my church.  Nobody else I know.
>
>I wasn't aware that the entire universe of Christian thought lay
>at your fingertips, Mr. Graham.  Could there possibly be Christian
>axioms that you don't know explicitly?

     ...etc, etc. Gentlemen, take it to e-mail, please.

     ObQuote: (given the religious context, I couldn't
resist) "Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous
debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting
vindictiveness, with which more than half the bible is filled, it
would seem more consistent that we called it the word of a demon than
the Word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to
corrupt and brutalize mankind."  -- Thomas Paine

===============================================================================
Tom Swiss/tms@cs.umd.edu  |  "Born to die"   |   Keep your laws off my brain!
     "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" - Nick Lowe 
                     Keep your values off my family.
Brooke's Law:
      Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool
      discovers something which either abolishes the system or
      expands it beyond recognition.
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: SEX
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:41:57 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted) writes:
>slouie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Shelley Louie) writes:
>
>>First, take a breath and then sing...
>>
>>"No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women, no fun, no sin, no you, no wonder I'm 
>> lost"
>>	 -"Turning Japanese" by the Vapors
>
>	"everyone around me is a total stranger,
>	 everyone avoids me like a Cyclone Ranger,
>	 Eeeeeeveryone"
>
>	 Great song.

     Yep. But what the heck's a Cyclone Ranger?

     ObQuote: "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George
Bernard Shaw

===============================================================================
Tom Swiss/tms@cs.umd.edu  |  "Born to die"   |   Keep your laws off my brain!
     "What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" - Nick Lowe 
                     Keep your values off my family.
Brooke's Law:
      Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool
      discovers something which either abolishes the system or
      expands it beyond recognition.
From: cxc4107@hertz.njit.edu (Christopher Lee Cavender)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Who said this?
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:27:28 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Whithout questions, there can be no answers. Without answers there can be no
learning.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 What is Love? - Me             | "Repent Harlequin!" Said the Ticktockman |
 Love is Truth! - Plato         |------------------------------------------|
 What is Truth? - Pontus Pilate | "More Light! More Light!" Anthony Hecht  |
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: jthorpe1@cc.swarthmore.edu (jere7my tho?rpe)
Subject: Re: Mixed quotes
Followup-To: alt.quotations
Organization: SWIL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:38:27 GMT

In article <damiene.727764747@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au>,
damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles) wrote:
 
> "Let not the sands of time get in your lunch"
> 		- Saturday Night Live, I think

National Lampoon, from "Deteriorata", a parody of "Desiderata" on their
album Radio Dinner.  Easy mistake--lots of the same people in Nt'l Lampoon
and SNL.  I personally liked "Fall not in love, therefore; it will stick to
your face."

                                                    ----jere7my
From: dji@atson.asahi-np.co.jp (David J. Iannucci)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: I'll be back... (Twins?)
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:54:32 GMT
Organization: ATSON, Inc. (a subsidiary of the Asahi Shimbun)

Is this a conspiracy or something??? :^)  Why is everyone saying TWINS?
I didn't see that movie, thus I don't know if he said it there, but of
course it originally became famous because he said it in TERMINATOR (1) !!!

--
Dave Iannucci                                        dji@atson.asahi-np.co.jp
Gaijin-in-residence                     ATSON/Trans Cosmos Inc., Tokyo, Japan
(They move fast)*(They tell me)*(There's someone)*(Rainbows)*(Alternate Tune)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: ward@sun17.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Paul A.S. Ward)
Subject: Re: Time
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:53:26 GMT

>  	Any Quotes on TIME out there? 

"Time is an illusion.  Lunchtime doubly so."
						Ford Prefect (HHGttG)
From: wsimms@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Bill Simms)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Women...
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:06:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines


	Newbie Alert!  *Grin*
	In my Chemistry class, the prof. usually puts up a quote every day.
I think the best was today.

	"Girls have an unfair advantage over men:  If they can't get what
they want by being smart, they can get it by being dumb."
		-Yul Brymmer (?)  

	I can't quite remember the name, but it was VERY close to that.

		Bill Lee Simms, Jr.
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: ecaxron@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Graham)
Subject: Re: ecology & Christianity
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: alt
Date: 25 Jan 1993 10:41 EST  

In article <C19Fqw.D0s@math.uwaterloo.ca>, shallit@graceland.uwaterloo.ca 
     (Jeffrey Shallit) writes...

>"[W]e shall continue to have a worsening ecologic crisis until
>we reject the Christian axiom that nature has no reason for
>existence save to serve man."  -  Lynn White, Jr.

>That is, the problems are due to a Christian *axiom*, not to all
>of Christianity.

So.  Who made it an axiom?  Not me.  Not my church.  Nobody else I know.
White, maybe?  How is this axiom played out?

>I have already made one request that you read the original article.
>Have you done so yet?  (I doubt it.)

Nothing gets me upset sooner than an assumption like this.  Make all the
requests you want.  Just get it through your head that when someone 
disagrees with you, it doesn't mean they can't, won't or don't read
what you write.  It primarily means they disagree with you.

>As I have already said once, White himself is an historian and a
>Christian, and the article supports his thesis quite well.

I don't care if White is the Archbishop of Canterbury.  I reserve the
right to disagree with him.  If your summation of his article is any
indication, I will not be a whole lot less likely to disagree with him
after I finish reading it.  I have only two choices: to disagree with 
his thesis, or with your summation of it.

RG

"With great power comes great responsibility."  -  Spider-Man
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:05:55 EST
From: KeyMaster <ESB107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: psu.test,alt.quotations
Subject: funny song chorus-who's author?

If anyone can recognize the author of this song,
please let me know who it is.
I heard this song on the radio on my drive back up
to college.
[chorus]
I love you period.
Do you love me question mark?
Please, please exclamation mark!
I want to hold you in parenthesis.
.
I was crackin up when i heard this.
-da KeyMaster
-ESB107@psuvm.psu.edu
-boese@crayola.cs.psu.edu
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= 'There is but one flag, the white flag.'  -U2               =
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From: mastr@husc8.harvard.edu (claudia mastroianni)
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: On a Clear Day [was Re: Uni Toilets]
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:41:25 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


In article <C173K4.EvD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> joann@unixhub.slac.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.010919.7657@daimi.aau.dk>, pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
>|> There are quite a few of these jokes on
>|> 
>|> "On a clear day, you can see forever".
>|> 
>|> Where does this come from? I've seen&heard it _so_ many times,
>|> but never with a source. 
>
>It's the title of a song. I've heard Barbra Streisand and Robert
>Goulet sing it. It's from a 1960's musical (well, maybe early 70's)
>called "The Fantastiks," which had a successful run on Broadway.
>I think it was about psychics, I have never seen it. It's a nice song,
>too bad I can't hum it for you...
>
Er, not quite.  I've certainly heard Barbra Streisand sing it, and I think
it's from a musical, but definitely not "The Fantasticks" -- note the
spelling.  I'll check what musical it's from and e-mail the original
poster, unless someone posts before I do.

"The Fantasticks," is one of my favorite musicals and I could rattle off
for you all the songs in it - but I won't, aren't you glad?  :-)
The best known is probably "Try To Remember."  For alt.quotation-ers, the
best feature of the show might be the mangled Shakespearean quotes 
perpetrated by the Actor character.

The show has nothing to do with psychics.  It's a generic love story,
featuring a Boy, a Girl, the Wall between them, etc. and I recommend it
to anyone.  Perhaps there are psychics in the show "On A Clear Day"
really comes from....

Claudia

ObQuote:

"Try to remember when life was so tender that
  love was an ember about to billow,
Try to remember, and if you remember, then follow...."
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: mbr2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Curious Of All Natures)
Subject: Thoughts on Time
Reply-To: mbr2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Universtiy of Chicago
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:21:10 GMT


                       THOUGHTS ON TIME ITSELF

  I have realized that the past and future are real illusions, that
  they exist in the present, which is what there is and all there is.
                                                         -Alan Watts

  Time is but the stream I go a-fishing in.  I drink at it; but while
  I drink, I see the sandy bottom and detect how shallow it is.  Its
  thin current slides away, but eternity remains.  I would drink
  deeper; fish fill the sky, whose bottom is pebbly with stars.  I
  cannot count one.  I know not the first letter of the alphabet.  I
  have always been regretting that I was not as wise as the day I was
  born.                                          -Henry David Thoreau

  As if you could kill time without injuring eternity.
                                                 -Henry David Thoreau
 
  As if you could TELL time without injuring eternity.  -Matthew Ryan

  Eternity is not something that begins after you are dead.  
  It is going on all the time.  We are in it now. -Charlotte P Gilman


		      THOUGHTS ON TIME WELL SPENT

  There is nothing more notable in Socrates than that he found time, 
  when he was an old man, to learn music and dancing, and thought it
  time well spent.                                         -Montaigne

  People find life entirely too time-consuming.     -Stanislaw J. Lec
 
  Half our life is spent trying to find something to do with the time 
  we have rushed through life trying to save.            -Will Rogers

  If you can spend a perfectly useless afternoon in a perfectly 
  useless manner, you have learned how to live.           -Lin Yutang



These words have been collected in communicative desperation by a
fellow who's been wandering through life with a certian intuitive
wariness: he knows that time itself, the embodiment of our
ongoingness, is darn diffucult to touch or even approach with our own
deeply time-grounded concepts.  He has nothing clear to say, but
perhaps he has imparted his deep impression that somehow, somewhere -
something is the matter.


-Matt Ryan, "I seem to be a verb." -Buckminster Fuller, 
mb-ryan@uchicago.edu                Curious Of All Natures
==================================  ====================================
If I'm dreaming, never let me wake. You'll never see the end of the road
If I'm awake, never let me sleep.   When you're traveling with me.
               -old chinese fellow                        -Crowded House     
==================================  ====================================
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
From: st923723@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Dorothy Parker
Reply-To: st923723@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:51:33 GMT

More cool Dorothy Parker quotes:

"Razors pain you;
 Rivers are damp;
 Acids stain you;
 And drugs cause cramp;
 Guns aren't lawful;
 Nooses give;
 Gas smells awful;
 You might as well live."

"Where's the man could ease a heart
 Like a satin gown?"

"Four be the things I am wiser to know:
 Idleness, sorrow, a friend, and a foe...
 Four be the things I'd be better without:
 Love, curiosity, freckles, and doubt."

Enjoy. 
Lisa
From: mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Mr. Prolific")
Newsgroups: alt.quotations
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Time
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:09:54 GMT
	<1993Jan22.150236.12352@nrao.edu>
Organization: Eaters of Wisdom
In-reply-to: julien@scs.leeds.ac.uk's message of 22 Jan 93 15:02:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.150236.12352@nrao.edu> julien@scs.leeds.ac.uk (J C Flack) writes:
>  but shouldn't [Stanislaw J. Lec] be 
>   Stanislaw J. Lem ? (c is a long way from m on my keyboard.)

No, and the J is for Jerzy.  

You think maybe there is only one Pole in the world?
--

   Nihil tam absurde dici potest, quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.
Mark-Jason Dominus 	  			    mjd@central.cis.upenn.edu 
Newsgroups: psu.test,alt.quotations
From: falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood)
Subject: Re: funny song chorus-who's author?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:57:56 GMT

In <93025.210555ESB107@psuvm.psu.edu> KeyMaster <ESB107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>If anyone can recognize the author of this song,
>please let me know who it is.
>I heard this song on the radio on my drive back up
>to college.
>[chorus]
>I love you period.
>Do you love me question mark?
>Please, please exclamation mark!
>I want to hold you in parenthesis.
>.
>I was crackin up when i heard this.
>-da KeyMaster
>-ESB107@psuvm.psu.edu
>-boese@crayola.cs.psu.edu

it is 'I love you period' by Dan Baird i don't know the album title... it
is about a love letter he wrote to some grade school english teacher... i
also find it abxolutely hilarious...

hope this helps...
D. Nathan Hood 
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