HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: B O R I N G
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:21:37 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <6592@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca> king@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King) 
writes:
>In article <BxB602.E6L@cs.psu.edu> krobinso@indianred.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>
>>Simple, K e n is K e n, and since K e n is K e n, then K e n is K e n,
>>and thus K e n is not boring, for K e n can only be K e n.
>
>Can't you thing of anything new to say? The above infantile tripe is nothing 
>short of absolutely B O R I N G.

Please re-read the above.  You are misinformed.  K e n stated above
that K e n is K e n, thus K e n is not boring.  Please go learn the
art of fine logic before posting here again.  K e n wishes you luck
in becoming informed.

*retch*

				--liz

--
my ego ate my .sig, but not my Eagles quote...
"Her mind is Tiffany twisted..."
Newsgroups: alt.flame,talk.bizarre,rec.pets
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: Re: <satan>
Followup-To: alt.flame,misc.test
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 00:15:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.152459.20655@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.162917.1913@uni.edu> mglads@catbox.cc.uni.edu (Melvin Gladstone) writes:
>
>>Tell us about nyx.  Do you get to hang out with bur there?
>>
>>Melvin M. Gladstone
>
>nyx.du.edu: home of felons (pjf) assholes (bur) and anyone who cant post
>from their work machine for whatever reasons, but seemingly no actual
>students of U Denver. The Australia of the net, as it were. Im surprised
>Carasso didnt get an acct there.



Rob Dobson.  Mr. "Plonk of all plonkers".  The little squirrely librarian 
from Hicksville Va.  Gee Rob, now that Carasso is back what are you gonna do?   
Are you going to keep imitating him by flaming posts from rec.pets in 
alt.flame?  I sure hope so, they were really, really neat.  Right.
 
Get a life you wanker.
Newsgroups: alt.flame,misc.test
From: mhopper@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mark Hopper)
Subject: Re: K e n Is Not Boring (was Re: Aza.  Is She, or Isn't He?)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:14:44 GMT

In article <BxB602.E6L@cs.psu.edu> krobinso@indianred.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>In article <1dbjpcINNoub@bigboote.WPI.EDU> liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General) writes:
>>In article <Bx5vzy.208@cs.psu.edu> krobinso@tealblue.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson) writes:
>>>
>>>K e n does not bore people, for K e n is K e n, and K e n can only be
>>>K e n, thus K e n is K e n and only K e n.
>>>
>>
>>Wait wait wait a minute...K e n is K e n, therefore K e n does not bore people?
>>I'm having a problem with the logical connection between the two...
>
>Simple, K e n is K e n, and since K e n is K e n, then K e n is K e n,
>and thus K e n is not boring, for K e n can only be K e n.
>
>K e n   R o b i n s o n

  I believe that it is obvious to all of us, except for ken, that ken
  is a moron.  Can't we all just do our best to ignore him and deprive
  him of our attention, since I'm sure it's the only attention he gets?
MH
From: iacs2210@Oswego.EDU (Bob Ternosky)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: The fulfillment of Ken's sexual needs
Keywords: Ken, sex, Rob, dog
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:20:17 GMT
Reply-To: iacs2210@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Bob Ternosky)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <jac.720735359@wesley> jac@doe.carleton.ca (James A. Cherry) writes:
>
>>K e n does not require masturbation, for K e n is sexually satisfied
>>in other ways.
>
>Read: K e n is sexually satisfied by Rob's dog.
>
>I tell ya, Rob, from what I can ascertain, your dog really seems to get around.
>God only knows how the poor mongrel can perform for Ken.  Ugh.

Even a dog will take a dare, its kind of like going hogging.

flame away ken 

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.sigs suck
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M Ryan)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: THE ULTIMATE FLAME OF FLAMES
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 01:51:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b64746.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Nov4.233342.20682@latcs1.lat.oz.au> ooi@latcs5.lat.oz.au (Jeffrey K Ooi) writes:
>I HATE EVERYBODY YOU ARE ALL FACISTS AND BIGOTS AND LESBIANS AND GAYS
>AND JEHOVAS WITNESSES AND SUDDAM LOVERS
>
>let the flames begin...

	*yawn*
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Why Clinton
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 17:22:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

Leonard.Kinerson@p0.f110.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Leonard Kinerson) writes:
> Are There any people out there that voted For Clinton
> If So WHY!!!!!!!!!

At a guess, it beats voting for a mealy-mouthed fascist hypocrite who claims
atheists can't be US citizens, nobody but his friends should be allowed to
have abortions, and that there is no recession.

That's only a guess, though.  Alternatively, perhaps people took "The British
Scenario" seriously?


mathew
From: nabiel@cu.BITNET (nabiel ghuzlain)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Test -- Ignore
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:24:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

$#@%$# &%^&, $@%$@$%$#? $#%#@% ^& ^&*^ #$#%!

--$#$@%
From: liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: K E N is K E N
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:28:29 GMT
Organization: WPI - so much stress we're giving it away!
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

[defense of Ken deleted]

Do you take LSD often, or just before posting to Usenet?

				--liz

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Newsgroups: alt.flame
From: ckincy@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: I got an idea!!  Use a killfile!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:35:09 GMT
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Summary: Killfiles are your friend.

In article <1992Nov7.040339.1570@midway.uchicago.edu> samant@tartarus.uchicago.edu (Tushar Samant) writes:
>Listen all you senile buffers out there, Darcy and Keegan and rest
>of the homeys. There is a slim chance that one of your incestuous
>family will actually take time off to read this instead of brownnosing
>each other as usual and I am banking on that to make a growing opinion 
>heard.

I got a novel idea for ya:

/keegan@/hK:j
/kevin@rotag/hK:j
/lefty@/hK:j
/rissa@/hK:j
/krob/hK:j

If you have an excess of computrons, you can try aK instead of hK.
That way, you'll get rid of all the followups too.  Neat, eh?

Now, quit whining and get to work, you disciple of loserhood!

cpk
From: krobinso@peach.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Kenneth J Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: ken meets jesus
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:21:39 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Nov10.222833.6852@cs.odu.edu> page@aethelwulf.cs.odu.edu () writes:
>
>ken meets Jesus.
>
>(all of the hypothetical 2nd coming of the lord world tour details
>are left to the reader's imagination.  what follows is simply
>a transcript of the conversation between alt.flame's human 
>tetherball and the Almighty's avatar on earth)
>
>Jesus (J.)--Hello, my son.  I have come to forgive your sins.
>
>ken -- K e n does not sin because K e n is K e n and therefore cannot
>	be other than K e n since K e n is K e n is K e n and therefore
>	does not sin.  
>
>J.-- All men sin, my child.
>
>ken -- You are misinformed.  K e n is K e n and therefore does not sin.
>	Also, K e n is K e n is K e n is K e n and is therefore not	
>	your child.
>
>{apostles on scene begin losing lunch}
>
>J.-- Come forward my son, and let me forgive you your transgressions.
>
>ken--You are misinformed.  K e n is K e n is K e n and therefore does
>	not 'transgress'.  K e n suggests you initiate proper
>	washing procedures.

Jesus is much, much higher in the hierarchy and is more informed
than everyone, thus if Jesus said that K e n sins, then K e n
sins. K e n never claimed to be perfect. K e n is K e n.

K e n   R o b i n s o n
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: nitram@tellabs.com (Marty Hewes)
Subject: Re: Want Photo 3D mailing list?
Summary: YES!!
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:56:24 GMT


I would like the mailing list back.  Count me in.  Thanks.


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Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: jew5001@zeus.tamu.edu (WILLIAMSON, JOHN EDWARD)
Subject: WANTED: Help with POV for IBM
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:55:00 GMT

I'm looking for someone experienced in POV that I is willing
to help me out over the next few weeks by answering my rather
stupid questions.  I've been able to create several very good
stereo-pairs from existing POV databases, but I now need to create
my own.  I'm looking to create stereopairs of an airplane, that
"poke out of the window."  

I will also need to be able to add the incredibly stereotypical
3D logo/text as well.  I know there are other ray-tracing programs
that can do this, but I would like to stick to POV.  Has anyone
written any POV files to create the alphabet that I could download?
Is there an ftp site of POV data files?

Does anyone out there have one of the inexpsensive TGA (24bit, 16.7 million
colors) video cards.  I've seen reviews for the #9 and the Matrox cards
but these all cost $800-2,000.  Diamond and ATI have 24 bit cards (for the IBM)
for under $300.  Are they any good?  Is there a cheap/public domain
paint program that works on TGA.  I already have several editing/image
enhancing programs for TGA files, but no paint programs.

A possible temporary job over Xmas vacation with a PR firm doing
stereo advertising/photography hangs in the balance, so I would
be forever in your debt if you could help.

John
jew5001@zeus.tamu.edu
From: charles@capmkt.COM (Charles Neveu)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: Request for Human Skeleton
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:22:40 GMT
Organization: Capital Market Technology

danielg@autodesk.com (Daniel Green) writes:
>In article 11099@informix.com, proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes:
>> 
>> Does my memory deceived me, or is it not the case that some place
>> like Colorado they are digitizing a complete human body by actually
>> cutting it into very thin slices (like 0.1 mm or something) and
>> scanning each one optically? Presumably it must have been treated
>> in some way to induce a kind of ultra rigor mortis ...

>That would be a really dumb way to do it.  A good MRI scan would easily
>give you all the data you'ld need (after filtering it through an iso-
>surface program).

Not at all; just a very slow way to do it. Tissue that is fixed and
well-stained is colorful, and the resolution is limited by wavelength
of light. I don't think that the resolution of MRI is more than 0.5
mm.  Even then, MRI measures primarily proton density, which
translates to water density, plus some weaker 2nd order effects.
Stains can bring out lots of other stuff.  MRI is still pretty noisy,
as well.

Charles Neveu (neveu@milo.berkeley.edu)
Neurology Unit
Program in Physiological Optics
UCBerkeley
From: jem21176@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon E. Meyer)
Subject: Re: holography and 3-d graphics
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:05:27 GMT

I wrote...

>>No such thing as a hologram making machine. At least not really.
>>MIT has something like one, and it works pretty well, but
>>nothing on the market for sure.  So the answer is no, at least
>                                                   ^^
>                                                  wrong

>There is a process where you can render stills of the various  views of a 3D
>object and those are put together to form a hologram.  This technique was used
>to create some images of the Siggraph logo a few years back (the hologram was
>displayed at the entrance to the registration hall).  I cannot remember the
>company that did it right now, but it can be done.

Ok, fine.  What I meant was there is no commercial product that
makes holograms of computer graphics.  Notice I did mention MIT's
stereogram printer.  All I was getting at was that there is no
printer you can go out and buy that'll do this, and that's what I
was saying no to.  I know it can be done, but only by private means.

Polaroid is big on mass production of embossed holograms, and they may
even make computer generated stereograms, but it'll cost you an arm and
a leg.  I thought the original post was getting at buying something off
the market, and not working through a company.  Sorry.

Jon Meyer

Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: klein@nadia.stgt.sub.org (Alexander Klein)
Subject: Peter Kato dead
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:33:33 GMT
Organization: Stuttgart Net Systems, FRG

Peter Kato will be known to some of you as the creator of many twin SLR Stereo
Cameras. Articles about him were published in recent issues of the ISU-Magazine
"Stereoscopy" and the "3D News of the Stereo Club of Southern California".

Peter Kato died on November 11th, 1992 at the age of 51.

Those who knew him and/or his cameras will miss him. He attended the last ISU-
Congresses in Germany and France and was also active during the Photokina
fair in Cologne in mid-september 1992.


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Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: klein@nadia.stgt.sub.org (Alexander Klein)
Subject: Belplascus Stereo Projector for sale
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:37:10 GMT
Organization: Stuttgart Net Systems, FRG


Several of you will already know the Belplasca Stereo Camera known for its
high-quality lenses. If you are lucky, you own one of these great stereo
cameras.

In the 1950's, the BELPLASCUS Stereo Projector was built, with two bulbs
at 100 Watts/220 Volts.

The TDC Projector is definitely a better projector for everyday use, but 
the Belplasca projector is rather rare and great to complete one's stereo
collection.

I'm offering one Belplascus projector, including original case, for $250
plus shipping. Converters from 110 Volts to 220 Volts are easily available
in the US, so different voltage is no problem.

If someone of you is interested, please write directly.

Alexander Klein <klein@nadia.stgt.sub.org>
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From: ci542@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott L. Underwood)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: Random dot stereograms
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:08:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I second the request for a list of ftp sites (sights) where one might
find R.D.S. gif files.
###
From: charles@capmkt.COM (Charles Neveu)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: RDS effects
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:36:54 GMT
Organization: Capital Market Technology

danielg@autodesk.com (Daniel Green) writes:
>Has anyone else noticed that the x-eyed technique provides a really fast
>way to solve those puzzles that show two pictures that have only a few
>subtle differences?  Fuse those image pairs, and the differences pop right
>out as sort of sparkly areas.

Yes! Classic example of parallelizing a serial search problem.  

By the way, the "sparkly areas" are called "lustre", which is why
shimmery things look shimmery - the two eyes are getting very
different images, in local areas, areas which the visual system
expects to pretty closely resemble each other. Wavy specular surfaces
show this, so do minerals like tiger's eye. It's also the reason some
shiny things looks shimmery when viewed through cross polarized 3-d
glasses: one lens passes the reflection which the other blocks it.

So it's interesting that you describe it as "sparkly", since there's
no sparkle in the printed image. Our visual system interprets strong
binocular differences as shinyness. 

Charles Neveu  (neveu@milo.berkeley.edu)
Neurology Unit
Program in Physiological Optics
UCBerkeley
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: jogl@merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Subject: WANTED: simple 3D hidden line/surface-Unix/X11 prog. (FAQ?)
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 12:43:05 GMT



hi,
 
sorry, is there a FAQ-list for this NewsGroup (couldn't find one).
 
we are looking for some "simple" programs to draw hidden
line/surface images from a set of given 3D meshes.
 
we use Dec-Ultrix (UNIX) stations with X11R4.

is there any software around, that can read in some
3D data and draw a 3D image from some view points ?

the input data type is (nearly) unimportant. 
triangles would be o.k.

ANY hint is wellcome ...
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From: bobp@hal.com (Bob Pendleton)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: rendering speeds
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:56:38 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.

From article <BxF7LH.JKt@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel):
> jleduc@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (JonPaul Leduc) writes:
> 
>>	I am almost sure you are right.   The 4000 has a motorolla DSP,
>>which can do the matix operation much more efficiently.  DSP's don't have
>>Hertz ratings.  

DSPs most certainly do have Hertz ratings. And they mean as little in
the DSP world as they do in the normal CPU world.

>>But the 56000, which is what I think it has, has a
>>throughput of 8 megs/sec (8000 1k polygons).  So have the processor do a
>>data stream through the DSP and you are all set.
>>(Doesn't that mean NeXT's would kick too?)
> 
> What exactly does the DSP do? does it do anything for graphics, or is it some
> thing that helps math operations? 

DSP is short for Digital Signal Processor. DSPs are special purpose
CPUs optimized for doing floating point arithmetic. They usually have
very fast floating point multipliers.

Since most of traditional 3D graphics is lots and lots of floating
multiplies having a few DSPs around to do matrix concatenations, point
transformations, and shading calculations makes a lot of difference.

DSPs can also be used to directly write pixels into the frame buffer,
but that is a design issue. Usually it you get a better
price/performance ratio using ASICs to do the final rendering.

Modern high performance graphics systems often have many DSPs in them.
Where many is defined as 4 to > 40.

					Bob P.
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Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: WANTED: simple 3D hidden line/surface-Unix/X11 prog. (FAQ?)
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 18:22:28 GMT

Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd# (jogl@merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de) wrote:
: 
: 
: hi,
:  
: sorry, is there a FAQ-list for this NewsGroup (couldn't find one).
:  
: we are looking for some "simple" programs to draw hidden
: line/surface images from a set of given 3D meshes.
:  
: we use Dec-Ultrix (UNIX) stations with X11R4.
: 
: is there any software around, that can read in some
: 3D data and draw a 3D image from some view points ?
: 
: the input data type is (nearly) unimportant. 
: triangles would be o.k.
: 
: ANY hint is wellcome ...
: -- 

Well, first of all, you should divide your figure into several surfaces.
After this, you should calculate the 2d projection on the screen. Having
done this, determine wether or not you should draw the surface by crossing
two of the vectors of the projected surface. I.e., if the surface is drawn
clockwise, the surface is there. If it is drawn anti-clockwise, the surface
is on the backside, and should therefore not be drawn.

This will, of course, work only on convex objects. To make it work on inconvex
objects, you will have to draw the entire surface and not only the border
lines. Also, you will have to sort the surfaces so that what will be in front
of another surface will be in front of that surface. This part is, however
a bit harder to explain.


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/Gard Eggesboe Abrahamsen (Zealot of O.U.C.H. and Imagina)
                          (Editor of Scriba Communis Responsi)

"They said it couldn't be done, but I did it; 3d surface sort on 0 cycles."
                                                                    Gard 1992
"The world is 24892 atoms"
                      Gard 1992
"Time to make a disclamer"
                  Gard towards the end of 1992

Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: doogie@iastate.edu (Matt R Kelly)
Subject: Stereo World
Keywords: 3d
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:22:56 GMT

  I've heard people mention the magazine _Stereo World_ in this group from
time to time.  Could someone give me a short review of the magazine?  What
kinds of things are in it?  Articles about techniques as well as the images
themselves?  And is it subscription only, or has anybody gotten this 
magazine from a bookstore or such?  Email or post, whichever you like.  Some
other people may have the same questions.  Thanks in advance.

                                                           Doogie

Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: rendering speeds
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:22:28 GMT

jleduc@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (JonPaul Leduc) writes:

>	I am almost sure you are right.   The 4000 has a motorolla DSP,
>which can do the matix operation much more efficiently.  DSP's don't have
>Hertz ratings.  But the 56000, which is what I think it has, has a
>throughput of 8 megs/sec (8000 1k polygons).  So have the processor do a
>data stream through the DSP and you are all set.
>(Doesn't that mean NeXT's would kick too?)

What exactly does the DSP do? does it do anything for graphics, or is it some
thing that helps math operations?