HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: news@ohare.Chicago.COM (news at ohare)
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for ohare
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:52:36 GMT


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
ditka         	  4277	    44	    93	     84	     46	    99%	     1%
local         	    43	     0	     0	      0	      1	     0%	     0%
royko         	     0	     0	     0	     43	      0	     0%	     0%
unixhub       	     0	     0	     0	     42	      0	     0%	     0%

TOTALS        	  4320	    44	    93	    169	     47	   100%	     1%

Total Articles processed 4364

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newgroup          1
rmgroup           2
cancel           44, 69 failed

Netnews Categories Received
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rec         857
comp        768
chi         472
news        336
sci         313
misc        242
ca          224
alt         184
chicago     142
soc         129
talk         95
su           60
general      29
biz          29
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us           20
la           19
sun           9
oc            9
sybase        7
apple         5
sgi           5
ne            4
ny            4
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sco           3
ucla          3
nj            3
grads         2
ig            2
scruz         2
tellabs       2
slo           2
tx            2
na            2
sybhq         2
nwu           2
motmcg        2
phl           2
pa            2
athena        2
local         1
amb           1
usc           1
orst          1
aus           1
sdnet         1
pubnet        1
cmu           1
vmsnet        1
pdx           1
dc            1
gnu           1
ky            1
uc            1
uk            1
uwisc         1
udel          1
triangle      1
uw            1
slac          1
fj            1
fl            1
ga            1
wi            1
uic           1
or            1
uchi          1
seattle       1
amdahl        1
Newsgroups: chi.news.stats,motmcg.news.lists
From: usenet@chg.mcd.mot.com (Usenet Admin)
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for binford
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:30:39 GMT

Sitename                    Accept Reject Junked I-have Sendme   Total    Sent
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
binford                        245                                 245 
mcdchg                       38428     22    101                 38551      10
                   Totals:   38673     22    101                 38796      10
Newsgroups: chicago.news.stats,chi.news.stats,ba.news.stats
From: news@ohare.Chicago.COM (news at ohare)
Subject: Chicagoland Statistics Summary (01/07/93)
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:09:17 GMT

System          Accept  Reject  Junked  Xmit to Control Fan Out % rejct
------          ------  ------  ------  ------- ------- ------- -------
binford          22480      16     102        4       -     0.0      0%
ditka            42065    5401     205   164939     944     3.9     11%
mcdchg           68228   30247     734   581111       -     8.5     15%
obdient          55356    1102     111   154639     624     2.8      1%
ohare             2401      33      27       79      28     0.0      1%
royko             2903     439       3     3259      67     1.1     13%
unixhub          75776     734     469   260563    3267     3.4      0%
Newsgroups: chicago.news.stats,chi.news.stats
From: news@royko.Chicago.COM (news at royko)
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for royko
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:53:22 GMT


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
ditka         	   386	   351	    17	   4196	     24	    13%	    47%
local         	    15	     0	     0	      0	     13	     0%	     0%
marcal        	  4650	    48	    12	    250	     49	    85%	     1%
mcdchg        	     0	     0	     0	     76	      0	     0%	     0%
mgweed        	     0	     0	     0	    280	      0	     0%	     0%
ohare         	     5	    38	     0	      0	      0	     0%	    88%
penl0p        	     0	     0	     0	    939	      0	     0%	     0%
royko         	     0	     0	     0	     13	      0	     0%	     0%

TOTALS        	  5056	   437	    29	   5754	     86	   100%	     7%

Total Articles processed 5493

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rmgroup           1
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sendme           12

Netnews Categories Received
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comp        1094
alt          763
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talk         144
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soc           57
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uw             1
slac           1
bit            1
fl             1
ga             1
wi             1
uic            1
princeton      1
uchi           1
atl            1
Newsgroups: chicago.news.stats,chi.news.stats
From: news@royko.Chicago.COM (news at royko)
Subject: Weekly USENET Report for royko
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:51:37 GMT


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
ditka         	   363	   336	     1	   2302	     35	    20%	    48%
local         	    16	     0	     0	      0	     14	     0%	     0%
marcal        	  2524	    83	     2	    291	     18	    78%	     3%
mcdchg        	     0	     0	     0	     57	      0	     0%	     0%
mgweed        	     0	     0	     0	    113	      0	     0%	     0%
ohare         	     0	    20	     0	      0	      0	     0%	   100%
penl0p        	     0	     0	     0	    482	      0	     0%	     0%
royko         	     0	     0	     0	     14	      0	     0%	     0%

TOTALS        	  2903	   439	     3	   3259	     67	   100%	    13%

Total Articles processed 3342

Control	Invocations
ihave            26
cancel           27, 173 failed
sendme           14

Netnews Categories Received
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Newsgroups: chicago.news.stats,chi.news.stats,ba.news.stats
From: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Subject: 1983 Overseas High School Reunion
Reply-To: dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton)
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:35:00 GMT

Hello All,

	If you graduated, or know someone who graduated, from an American high school overseas in 1983, please get in contact with me.   
 
There is a massive multi-school reunion in Dallas in August and I can give you the information.

dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu
(210) 691-5594

Later,

Daniel Shelton
Xref: sparky ca.general:1625 sdnet.general:215
From: psm@nosc.mil (Scot Mcintosh)
Newsgroups: ca.general,sdnet.general
Subject: Refund of prior year Calif prop taxes?
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:07:27 GMT
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego


I won't go into the somewhat involved details, but I'm
pretty confident that I'll be getting a reduction in
the base year (1989) assessed value for a piece of real
property that I own. If I do, does anyone know if it's
possible to get a refund of the California property taxes
paid out in those earlier years? Whoever answered the
phone at the assessor's office said no, but I'm 
certainly not going to take a county employee's word
for it.

-- 
----
Scot McIntosh
Internet: psm%helios.nosc.mil@nosc.mil
UUCP:     I have no idea
From: theresa@ics.uci.edu
Subject: Monterey Vacation
Newsgroups: ca.general
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:32:59 GMT

In a few weeks my husband and I will be taking a well deserved long weekend
to Monterey.  He would like to go wine tasting, and I would like to see a
little local history.  Last year we went to the aquarium, and enjoyed that.
Do you have any suggestions for visiting wineries or historic (either true
historic or interesting) spots in the Monterey area?  Please email directly
to my at: theresa@ics.uci.edu.

Thank you in advance for your suggestions!

-- Theresa Waterman
Newsgroups: ca.general,ba.general
From: csc@coast.ucsd.edu (Charles Coughran)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: x-country in Idyllwild
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:41:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: coast.ucsd.edu

Sender:
Reply-To: csc@coast.ucsd.edu.UCSD.EDU (Charles Coughran)
Followup-To:
Distribution: 
Organization: Center for Coastal Studies, SIO
Keywords: 


Does anyone know of any good places to cross
country ski around Idyllwild, other than climbing
up Devil's Slide?
-- 
         Practice Random Kindness And Senseless Acts of Beauty.
ccoughran@ucsd.edu (Internet) ...!ucsd!ccoughran (UUCP) CCOUGHRA@UCSD (BITNET)
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: keb@corsa.corp.sgi.com (Kerstin "cherston" Barley)
Subject: B&Bs in San Diego?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:22:51 GMT

I'm looking for a fun, funky, upscale B&B or small hotel fairly near Ocean
Beach.  I'm going down for the last weekend of January.  Any pointers
mailed to me (keb@sgi.com) would be appreciated!

thanks,
Kerstin
From: rbeban@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Richard Beban)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: news service wanted
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:15:49 GMT
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/453-8726 - Santa Monica, CA

Do you mind my asking why your friends are "predisposed against the Well." 
I've heard good things about it.  Are there other opinions?
From: jeg@Apple.COM (Julian Gomez)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: news service wanted
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:04:53 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

I know some people in Tucson, AZ and Reno, NV, who are looking for
services similar to netcom in their towns.  Does anyone know of any?
They're both predisposed against The Well.
From: chris@main.surfcty.com (Chris Johnston)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: This is a test
Keywords: test 123
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 14:43:31 PST
Distribution: ca
Organization: Surf City Software, Orange, Calfornia - DUDE!

This is a test from node main.surfcty

Hello

******************************************************************
**	Chris D. Johnston		714/289-8543		**
**	Surf City Software		714/289-1002 (fax)	**
**	chris@surfcty.com		Surf.City (AppleLink)	**
**	1095 N. Main Street, M-1, Orange, California 92667	**
******************************************************************
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: john@storcon.uucp (John Hunley)
Subject: test
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:14:48 GMT
Organization: Storage Concepts, Inc.

test
From: dmorriso@teal.us.oracle.com (David Morrison)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: testing, testing
Date: 31 Dec 92 23:48:21 GMT
Organization: /home/dmorriso/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal.us.oracle.com


Nothing like testing...
From: dmorriso@teal.us.oracle.com (David Morrison)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: testing, again
Date: 1 Jan 93 00:03:10 GMT
Organization: /home/dmorriso/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal.us.oracle.com

moooooo
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: ignore nntplink test via UCI
Date: 4 Jan 1993 14:29:15 -0800
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: spock.dis.cccd.edu

The subject says it all.
-- 
Mark Bixby                         Internet: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Coast Community College District   1370 Adams Avenue
District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
Technical Support                  (714) 432-5064
"You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." - tunefs(1M)
From: dmorriso@teal.us.oracle.com (David Morrison)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: more testing
Date: 31 Dec 92 23:07:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: /home/dmorriso/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal.us.oracle.com


So what do people expect in a test posting?
From: djones@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Deborah Jones)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: testing
Date: 7 Jan 1993 12:44:57 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdde.sdd.hp.com

this is a test

Newsgroups: ca.test
From: john@storcon.com (John Hunley)
Subject: From test I
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:14:13 GMT
Organization: Storage Concepts, Inc.

test
--
                            John Hunley
   Sr. Software Engineer                  Email:  john@storcon.com
   Storage Concepts, Inc.                  UUCP:  ...!storcon!john
   1622 Deere Ave.                        Voice:  (714) 852-8511
   Irvine, CA  92714                        FAX:  (714) 557-5064
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: john@storcon.uucp (John Hunley)
Subject: From test III
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:18:32 GMT
Organization: Storage Concepts, Inc.

test
From: cccd@nic.cerf.net (Coast Community College District)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: testing my autoresponder
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:30:35 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

This is a test to see if the CCCD autoresponder see this.
From: dmorriso@us.oracle.com (David Morrison)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: testing
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:25:52 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: teal.us.oracle.com


This is a test posting.
Newsgroups: ca.politics
From: dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: Carjackers/Citizens/Life/Guns/Bernhard Goetz
Date: 4 Jan 93 08:12:09 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <13719@optilink.COM>, manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.220137.4445@octel.com> keithp@octel.com (Keith Perrin)
wri
>tes:
>>In article <13704@optilink.COM> manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley) writes:
>
>>>Just think if we "blew away" anyone convicted of committing
>>>three felonies.  You get three chances.  Then you die.
>
>>>What do you think?
>
>>>Would that have an effect on crime rates?
>
>>Well, yes it would, so whats your point.
>
>I dunno, which way do you think it would change
>crime rates and why?

quite possibly crime rates would go up.  as fast as we'd be able to
knock them off, we'd replace them with others who've been taught
that human life is of such little value, who've grown up so
impressed and compressed by authority that they could not develop
a moral sensibility of their own, and to whom the threat of death
is just one more proof that society does not give a shit about
them.

most of us these days do not consider it sufficient to tell our
children "Because I'll hit you if you do," because we've realized
that they will tend to assume that this is a universally valid
axiom.  threat is not a reason; it is the absence of reasons.

by the way, these words should not be construed as a reply directed
solely at the crap that commonly issues forth from that manley fellow,
but to the question of punitive measures in general, not limited to
corporal ones.

regards,
dave
From: fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: AZT Resistance
Date: 11 Jan 1993 19:10:19 GMT
Organization: JPL, Space Imaging Radar Software Group
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov


In article <43316@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, jschell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Gift Horse) writes:
|>Jeff Dauber writes:
|>>
|>>First of all, being HIV+ does not mean that the person has AIDS.  Your 
|>>grasp of the terminology is almost as firm as your grasp on the issues
|>>associated with the illness.
|>
|>I was only being as loose with my terminology as the person who
|>started the thread was.  I know that just having the HIV virus
|>doesn't mean that you have AIDS, yet.  I was assuming from previous
|>posts that only people who had developed AIDS took AZT and those who
|>were only HIV+ didn't. 

In general, people start taking AZT when their CD4 cells drop to around 500.
The opportunistic infections that define having AIDS rarely occur until
ones CD4 cells drop under 200.  A healthy person would have CD4 count of 
over 1000.


--
Tim Fogarty
Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1, STS-59
FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV
From: chased@rbbb.Eng.Sun.COM (David Chase)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: AZT Resistance
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:22:23 GMT
Organization: Sun
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: rbbb

>In article <lkrm27INNj9s@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, chased@rbbb.Eng.Sun.COM (David Chase) writes:
># 2) you are ascribing to malice what is adequately explained by
>#    stupidity, lust, addiction, and ignorance.

In article <13861@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>You mean, that such a person lacks enough self-control to not
>put other people's lives at risk?

That is one way to phrase the "lust, addiction" parts, yes.  However,
I don't think I'm describing anything terribly unusual.  It's been
demonstrated that many people are pretty careless with their own lives
(e.g., cigarettes, helmet and seatbelt non-use, overeating), so I'm
not surprised to find that many people are careless with other
people's lives as well (tailgating, reckless driving, drunk driving,
shooting into the air, selling cigarettes).  Consider also that (in
this case) the "other people" have already demonstrated a certain
carelessness with their own lives by putting themselves at risk for
HIV transmission.

As far as the body count goes, people knowingly spreading HIV have got
a long way to go before they catch up with the tobacco industry.  Note
that in both cases, the vast majority of the "victims" chose to put
themselves at risk (unwilling victims include rape victims and
smoke-exposed non-smokers).

Basically, I just wanted to be sure that you didn't go off on some
hemophiliac-bashing diatribe.  Except for a tendency to avoid contact
sports, hemophiliacs are pretty much like other people in their
behavior.

David Chase
Sun
From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: AZT Resistance
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:30:13 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <lkrm27INNj9s@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, chased@rbbb.Eng.Sun.COM (David Chase) writes:
> In article <43171@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jschell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Gift Horse) writes:
# #Well Paul, if you had read the rest of Clayton's article, and maybe
# #even included it in your quote, then you would have understood that
# #he was referring specifically to people who were taking AZT because
# #they already had AIDS and _knew_ it, but were still behaving
# #promiscously(sp?) and not telling their partners that they had AIDS.
# #I don't know about you, but to me this sounds like they are
# #intentionally spreading the disease around.
# 
# You're making the same mistakes that Clayton made:
# 
# 1) we now "know" (because we read it in the paper) that the AIDS virus
#    becomes resistant to AZT over time.  We didn't "know" this before
#    now, so to speak of intentionally spreading AZT-resistant AIDS is
#    implying that the people doing this know the future.  I use "know"
#    because I would hope that *most* people would be paranoid enough to
#    assume that the virus could become resistant, anyway.
# 
# 2) you are ascribing to malice what is adequately explained by
#    stupidity, lust, addiction, and ignorance.

You mean, that such a person lacks enough self-control to not
put other people's lives at risk?

# 3) a small number of malicious/stupid/lustful/addicted/ignorant
#    people taking AZT could account for a large increase in the
#    rate of spread.  Include secondary infection by people who
#    are infected with the resistant strain but not taking AZT
#    (because they may not even know that they have AIDS yet),
#    and the the number gets even smaller.
# 
# Thus, I'd argue that what Clayton is observing is the result of
# typical human behavior, and not some malicicious hemophiliac
# conspiracy.
# 
# David Chase
# Sun

1. I never said anything about conspiracy.  That requires more
than one person working together.  This could just be a lot of
self- and other-destructive people, each working independently.

2. Hemophiliac conspiracy?  Huh?  Considering how most hemophiliacs
got AIDS, it seems unlikely that they are the problem.


-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"When freedom destroys order, order will destroy freedom." -- Eric Hoffer
Not a goal, just a statement of reality.
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: AZT Resistance
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Distribution: ca
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <43316@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, jschell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Gift Horse) writes:
|> Jeff Dauber writes:

|> I was only being as loose with my terminology as the person who
|> started the thread was.

First a claim that you understand the terminology....

|>  I know that just having the HIV virus
|> doesn't mean that you have AIDS, yet.  I was assuming from previous
|> posts that only people who had developed AIDS took AZT and those who
|> were only HIV+ didn't.


Followed by proof that you really do not know what you are talking about.
HIV+ does not mean that the person has AIDS... Taking AZT does not imply
AIDS.  In fact, taking AZT does not even imply that the person has ARC.
All it means is that the person is HIV+.

|>  I don't waste time looking up little things
|> that are irrelevant to the actual argument. 

Either you are ignorant or insensitive.  Great.

|> The point is that if
|> they are taking a drug to counter the effects of the HIV virus then
|> they know that they are carriers.  I will concede that they might
|> not know that they can spread it, but I really find that pretty
|> unlikely by now.

Have you considered what how much transmission is brought about by people
who do not know they are HIV+?  Why are you "unconcerned" about these 
cases?

|> >However, both people involved in the sex act are responsible for their
|> >behavior.  You seem to be just "blaming" the person who is HIV+.
|> 
|> Of course both people are responsible.  I blame the HIV+ person for
|> not telling his/her partner that s/he is a carrier.  Now if the
|> partner is willing to run the risk, more power to 'em.  As long as
|> the partner is informed, it's his/her decision.


You are a fool if you think that all sexual partners will tell you what
their status is.  In fact, you are a fool if you think even a small fraction
of any partners know what their status actually is.  So, you are getting 
down on HIV+ people who know who might not tell, while not saying
anything about people who are sexually active who have not even thought to 
find out...  These people are equally likely to be carrying an AZT resistant
strain as someone who knows... 

FWA