HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: walters@mcnc.org (Mark D. Walters)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schmidt Computer Rankings through 30-Aug-92: CORRECTION
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:23:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC

In article <1992Aug31.064850.435@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>
>
>  There needs to be a correction. The computer is on the blink....
>
>Penn State above Florida State? Yeah right!!!!!
>
>18   Clemson                   82.102   0-0-0   0.000  ( 18,  82.102)  +0
>19   Virginia                  81.351   0-0-0   0.000  ( 20,  81.351)  +1
>20   Georgia_Tech              80.978   0-0-0   0.000  ( 21,  80.978)  +1
>21   NC_State                  80.839   1-0-0  79.013  ( 31,  77.881)  +10
>
> CHANGE IT TO:
>
> NC State..................May not be able to beat FSU, but will be at least #2.
> Clemson...................Purple and orange will NOT work in Carter-Finley.
> Georgia Tech..............Lewis won't fix GT's problems in 6 months.
> virginia..................No Blundin, starters galore missing, 5th place!
>
>
> THIS IS THE YEAR WE BEAT VIRGINIA! YOU CAN'T HIDE BEHIND BLUNDIN ANYMORE!!!
>  
> YOU'RE RAGTAG band IS NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF WAHOO PRANKSTERS!!
>
> See you in Charlottesville! :)
>
Actually, Aside from Blundin, Virginia returns most of its starters.         
(Including Terry Kirby and Chris Slade). And anyway, it was only last year
that the Hoos "hid behind Blundin". What happened all those previous years ? :)

We'll see in C'Ville.

P.S. Great game with Iowa !

________________________________________________________________________________


Mark D. Walters                    walters@mcnc.org
MCNC P.O. Box 12889
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From: flynn@ocf.berkeley.edu (Owen John Flynn III)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Date: 2 Sep 1992 19:11:37 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

In article <17v5onINNgkj@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.183908.23228@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>>William F. Tell (wft@soda.berkeley.edu) wrote:
>>: I couldn't believe that at all.  Clemson ranked higher than Cal?  Excuse
>>: me, but didn't Cal destroy Clemson in the Citrus Bowl 37-13?   
>>
>>Uh, let's see...  The poll in question was for *this* season?  The bowl
>>game mentioned was played *last* season?
>
>Ah, but shouldn't the last game played by a team be considered one of the
>better indicators for a team's success?  
>
	Let's not forget that Cal even returns more starters (15) than
	does Clemson (12) from last years team, and that 6 of them are
	legitimate All-American candidates. While both teams have been
	idle the media seems to have forgotten the way Cal absolutely
	dominated Clemson, and IMHO has reflexively ranked Cal behind
	every team it could if the slightest excuse can be found. If
	our last two season's belonged to USC, their name + our record
	would have carried at least a top 15 preseason ranking. I'm   
	thankful that the season starts in a few days, so that we can't
	fall any further in the rankings while idle. How long will it
	be before the media realizes that Cal is an up-and-came team?

						GO BEARS!

						Owen John Flynn III


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: CAN ANYONE BEAT THE HUSKIES?
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 14:58:37 GMT
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Reply-To: stassen@alc.com
Distribution: seattle
Keywords: huskies

"Can anyone beat the Huskies?"

Sure.  There's a chance that UCLA, Pepsi State, DA CANEZ, Notre Dame, or
any of a handful of other teams could do it.  Some of those teams would
have (IMO) a better-than-50% chance of pulling the trick.

But the Huskies don't play UCLA in the Pac-10 and their non-conference
slate is Pacific, Wisconsin, and Nebraska (only one good team, at home).

*Will* anyone beat the Huskies?  Probably not this year, but any team
from the top ten would likely accomplish the same feat against their
schedule.
-- 
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DISCLAIMER:  My employer's account, but not their opinions.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jasonj@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jason Jarzembowski)
Subject: Re: N'western will win MNC
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:33:56 GMT


Just a little statistic to add weight to this theory - Northwestern is
UNDEFEATED in bowl game appearances. So there.

(Sure, it's only 1-0, having won the Rose Bowl in 1951 or something, but
it's a trend nonetheless).  After trouncing Notre Dame next weekend, the
rest of the season should be trivial.



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Aggies 10, Cardinal 7
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:14:38 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

The games are finally here!!  I hope most of you managed to find a Raycom
network telecast somewhere last night to see a great defensive battle 
between the Aggies and the Trees.  A couple of comments follow...

*  RC Slocum outcoached Bill Walsh, IMHO.  As the game wore on, the Aggies
   got better and better, and Walsh didn't have any more adjustments to 
   make.

*  Good thing for the Aggies that Granger pulled his head out of his butt in
   the fourth quarter.  He was absolutely atrocious during the first half
   in which he was 3-12.  He was only about 50% during the final quarter as
   well.  I couldn't believe it when the Raycom people named him player of
   the game.  This could spell trouble for the Aggies later on...

*  It was an unfortunately bad call on that INT that turned the ball over
   for the Cardinal.  Replays clearly showed that it was interference and
   that the ball hit the ground.  Hard to say if this is what made the
   difference in the game though.  TAMU still had 60+ yards to go for the
   TD drive, and Stanford was still 30+ from the end zone when it happened.

*  The Cardinal OLB's are quick!  George(?) had a hell of a game.  So did
   Parker, the interior DL for the Cardinal.

*  After hearing Granger named player of the game, I publicly recant my
   statement about a defensive player ever winning the Heisman.  It won't
   happen.  Ever.  Period.  End of Story.

****************************************************************************
Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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Subject: Re: Where is the JP Sports Network Avail at? (I want 
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:11:28 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
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In article <1992Aug27.161049.4164@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, dakos@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Dennis Akos) writes:
>     Since TBS isn't broadcasting the SEC games anymore, I guess they
>are now going over the JP (??? Is this right) Sports Network. IS
>this only avail in the South or what, none of our local cable
>companies carry it!
>
>     Unless someone can offer any suggestions or info (Other
>than get a dish) I guess I'm off to the local sports bar to beg
>and plead my case with the owner.
>
Looks like that is the case(unfortunately).  I *guess* ESPN whined hard 
enough to have the cfa eliminate the TBS broadcasts.  Which is
unfortunate and disappointing.

BTW, does anyone have PrimeNetwork's, Raycom's and/or CBS's 
college football schedule?   I've got JP,ESPN, ABC, and 
NBC/OBU's.
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: NMSU Aggies
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: rec.sport.football.college
Date:  3 Sep 1992 17:29 EST  

In article <WLITTLE.92Sep2175547@dante.nmsu.edu>, wlittle@nmsu.edu (Wes) writes...
>Just wondering how you guys view the New Mexico State Aggies this
>year.  Opinions????  I know I know this is NOT a national championship
>team but what the heck I happened to have played here last year and am
>a student here...I am just wondering what the general concensus is on
>this team as far as do you think they have improved how well do you
>guys think they will do this year...opening game Saturday against
>Weber State...comments??

My computer has 'em ranked No. 91, just behind Tulane, just ahead of Akron. 
I think that's probably too high.

R Dendy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Shameless OSU woofing enclosed
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:40:37 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <BILLMS.92Sep1132307@z.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.100605.3844@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
> 
>    In article <1992Aug31.200843.10591@alc.com>, stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen) writes:
>    > 
>    > [All listed times are Pacific, some games may be local only, but I can't
>    >  tell from the listing.]
>    > 
>    >  9/03:	 4:45pm		ESPN	Oklahoma at Texas Tech
>    >  9/05:	 9:30am		ESPN	Louisville at Ohio State
> 
> 	   9:30 *AM*!!!!  What a crock.  Please say this is a misprint.
> 
> 	   Saturday mornings were meant for recovery, not for football.
> 
> 	   I guess I'll just have to haul myself out of bed and find a cable TV
>    before breakfast :).
> 
> That depends.  If write.edu is WSU, which is in Ohio, you should haul
> yourself out of bed around noon.  I, I, I say son.  Thats Pacific time, which
> is 12:30 in Columbus, a very respectable time to start playing football.

	Yup.

>    > 11/21:	 9:00am		ABC	Michigan at Ohio State
> 
> 	   OSU 34, That team from up north, 0.  In the rain.  Missedagain coughs it
>    up five times.                                                       
> 
> Can't tell time, and can't remember the last time OSU won either. 

	Eh?  That would be five years ago.  The last game of Earle "I'll make
them underachievers!" Bruce.

Brett
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Marsee Ratings & Predictions for 8/29/92
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:25:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.064659.4370@newstand.syr.edu>
demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
 
>
>OK folks ... it's that time again ... here are the Marsee computer ratings for
>the preseason (which are based on last season's final ratings), plus predictions
>for the week ending 8/29/92.
[ratings deleted]
>
>     THE MARSEE I-A COLLEGE FOOTBALL PREDICTIONS FOR WEEKEND OF 08/29/92
>
>                          Note:  Home Team In CAPS
>
>                  iowa           over n carolina st  by   2
>
>                  stanford       over texas a&m      by   1
 
Should these preditions be interpreted to mean that LAST year's Iowa team
would beat LAST year's N Carolina team by 2, and LAST year's Stanford team
would beat LAST year's Texas A&M team by 1?  For instance, this year's
Tennessee's team returns only 36 of last year's 66 letterman and only 6
of last year's 22 starters.  Does the computer program ignore this type of
information when compiling its preseason ratings and assume that Tennessee
now is exactly as good (or bad) as it was at the end of last season?
 
-- 
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From: cxpwu@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Wu XiPing)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten Prognostication
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:56:36 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Being out of the Fighting ILLINI land for about a year, I am truly
impressed by the prospect of the ILLINI football team this year. I was
wondering what makes this team so strong (at least at the moment) for 
this season. Is Jason still the QB? I believe Lou Tepper is a good 
strategist in defence, but how about his style in offence compared with
John? Do we have a good running back this year? 

I hope Randy can give us a bit more detailed picture of the ILLINI
team for us Illini fans far far away from the beautiful Champaign-
Urbana. Thanks.

Xiping
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble)
Subject: Bruce have anything to do with.... was RE: ASU Troubles
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:31:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.172950.10676@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>Heard on the late news last night that the Arizona State University 
>administration had suspended 10 players including the starting QB and one
>of the starting LB's for this Saturday's game against Washington.

Did Our Man Bruce "I've Finally Found Cojones" Snyder have anything to
do with this?  Did the former Golden Bear coach, who couldn't get his
starting quarterback to cut his hair and stop wearing an earring ---
let alone control his team's (flagrantly foul) emotion during Big Game
last year --- actually have the guts to reprimand a player?  (And no,
this isn't sour grapes - y'all may remember my post on this subject
the day after Big Game last year, loooooong before Bruce took a page
from the Steve Miller playbook.)

I guess y'all down Arizona way got something in the air to make a man
lean toward the true and just.  Or somethin'.

Brian
Go Bears!

(p.s.: Any Cal r.s.f.c'ers stuck here in Da East heading down
Lafayette way to catch the Bears v. Boilermakers?  Drop me a line if
you are.)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: A&M BEATS BILL WALSH
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:27:17 GMT

Steve Chapin (sjc@cs.purdue.EDU) wrote:
: play him.  An even thornier question is: could A&M beat Walsh and...
: coach Ditka?

Is that a miniature Ditka, or a regular Ditka?

OK, OK, how about Ditka vs. Walsh in golf?
-- 
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From: garnto@vaxdad.scri.fsu.edu (Ken Garnto, SCRI, 904/644-4534)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Erickson,Spurrier,Bowden
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:20:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug27.165523.8123@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu writes...
> 
>	There was a program back on Tuesday night that featured the great 
>coaches of the "Big 3" here in Florida. And one interesting thing they talked 
>about was paying the players. (BTW everyones favorite college football 
>commentator was hosting this show: Ol' Beano). Bobby was up first and said

it was lee corso (sp?), an fsu alum.

>that school ought to pay thier players for these reasons:
>   -All of thier tuition, books, housing is paid for by scholarships
>   -To keep juniors from entering the NFL draft
>   -Big schools like UM, UF, and FSU have the funds

and we are the only ones who count. yeah, right.

>   -The kids need misc money to do stuff on weekends, they get bored being
>    stuck at a dorm. 100 bucks a month should be enough "petty cash"
>Erickson and Spurrier both agree to paying the players. They added that 
>it should cut a big portion of NCAA rules that affect high profile, high
>profit schools. GET RID OF THE RED TAPE!!

this scares the hell out of me.  these are suppose to be STUDENTS that play
ball.  I know that is not entirely the case, but paying them would make it
worse, even if there was an NCAA cap.  Now what about the tennis players (not
to abuse tennis, but it is not a large draw here at fsu).  how much do we pay
them?  what about the kids on full scholastic scholorships?  or do we just
draw the line at sports that make more than n in receipts?  or do we just say
that ALL students on athletic scholorships get $100/month?  if you can't afford
it, well maybe you should not have student athletes...

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Subject: Re: Western Michigan?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:10:16 GMT

In article <Bu2C0J.28I@acsu.buffalo.edu> v087jsfu@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DANNY) writes:
>Anyone have any news on Thursday's game of Bowling Green State vs.
>Western Michigan?

I believe the final was 29-19 BG. BG now has a 11 game winning streak
going into the TOSU game. The streak will end.


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From: rszczerb@picasso.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND's DuBose Situation
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:30:19 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Sep3.135046.24604@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
>
>In article <BILLMS.92Sep3081816@z.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (Willia
>m Mangione-Smith) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep2.233749.19937@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sschudt@magnus.ac
>s.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
>>
>>It is against the NCAA rules for athelets to benefit financially because of
>>their sports skills.  Thats why they don't pay them, they give them
>>scholarships.  Thats why you can't sign an agent.  Thats why you can't accept
>>cash gifts.  The idea, right or wrong, that drives these rules is that the
>>players should be amateurs.
>>
>>Dubose got a 25k car loan, no money down and no payments for one year, when
>>the whole sum comes do immediately.  He is reported to have said that that he
>>will pay it off with his salary from the NFL.  I don't know if this is
>>*right* or *wrong* in an absolute sence, but it is absolutely clear to be a
>>violation of both the letter and spirt of the NCAA rules.  Given that, and
>>the allegations of the earlier high school loan, I thought the penalty was an
>>amazingly light slap.

Bill,

I find it completely amazing that you can pass judgement on
a situation without knowing the complete details.  As for the
car loan ... this country was founded on the premise of being
innocent until proven guilty (this even hold true for arch-rivals
Michigan and Miami).  It's sad to see that even DuBose
being found innocent of any wrong doing on the $25000 car
loan is still not enough for you.
From: andy@misha.central.sun.com (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Erickson,Spurrier,Bowden
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:49:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com

In article 15435@ichips.intel.com, jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:
>> Hey,  that is what summer is for.  One can work out,  10-15 hours
>> a week & be able to get a summer job that they can make a couple of
>> thousand to give them money ot spend for the year.  
>
>I understand summer jobs are verboten as well.  Too many were created
>by boosters as covers for under-the-table payments.

No,  summer jobs are legal,  though probably very tightly watched 
by the NCAA.  




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From: valdis@skat.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: USC Trojan News
Date: 1 Sep 1992 18:56:27 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu
Keywords: USC, Trojans



In article <la7mcgINNe84@aludra.usc.edu> bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
>For all of those interested in a team with one of the greatest history
>and tradition in college football, read on, and Fight On!
>
>This is reprinted from "Student Body Right" without permission.
>
>100th TEAM
>
>This will be the 100th USC team (there were 5 years in which USC did
>not field a team since 1888).  1992 also marks the anniversary of
>several significant USC events, including: 80th anniversary of the
>nickname "Trojans" and the 70th anniversary of USC's first Rose Bowl
>team.  Plus, four USC national championship teams are celebrating
>anniversaries: 1932 (60th), 1962 (30th), 1967 (25th) and 1972 (20th).
>
>Fight On!
>Brian A. Kowal
>_____________________________________________________________
>A Bruin for four years... A Trojan for Life
>At USC we are not arrogent... We are just better than you.
>_____________________________________________________________
>
>
>


GREAT!! Another loyal Trojan fan appears. Remember ITS GREAT TO BE A
TROJAN Keep it going.. There's NOTHING BETTER...

4 days and counting...CANT WAIT!

Fight On, BEAT THE AZTECS!
Valdis Kalejs