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From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: he can't dance/he can't sing
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:19:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr07.211913.5480
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <1992Apr5.184918.3418@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:

>stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman) raves:
>: 
>: Well, most of us know the problem of going through life trying our 
>: damnedest to avoid Phil Collins, but it's difficult. He's probably
>: even in some of the food we eat. So, anyway, I can't stand him any 
>: more than anyone else, 

>This is a shocker, I know, but some people actually *like* Phil Collins.
>Actually, a whole lot of people do, which is why he's so popular. You 
>are in a minroity.

I know somewhere around 50 people here in San Diego that are interested in
music.  *NONE* of us think that Phil Collins is good.  He was once an
OK drummer, but he now wants Fame and Fortune and to Hell with Quality.

>: but I've been offended again by radios out of 
>: my control, and here he is again, having chosen his latest rip-off 
>: victim. He's once again taken a song that I know I've heard before, 
>: and I take it this is his latest hit, at least over here in the US. 

>Wrong.

>This is not his latest hit, it's Genesis's latest hit. There is a 
>huge difference, although you probably would never listen long enough
>to notice it.

Minor difference.  Since "Duke" Genesis hasn't put out a worthwhile album
(imho) and "We Can't Dance" is the worst of them.  (Mainly because it
sounds like a Phil Collins solo album.)  I *tried* to like it and even
kept it in the CD player for three days like someone suggested.  What a
waste of a CD.  We would be better off with a Gamma or Twelfth Night
release.

>: "I Can't Dance, I Can't Sing" (how appropriate). Whose song is this? 

>It's the latest Genesis song. Off their first album in 5 yesrs, We Can't
>Dance.

>: I know I've heard it by someone who has less money than Phil Collins. 
>: Was it Chris Rea?
>:                                 -stuart@apollo.hp.com

>No, it was written by Tony Banks, Phil Collins, and Mike Rutherford. It
>is an original composition. The gist of the song is making fun of blue
>jeans commercials (which Stewart probably loves :)), so you may have
>seen some blue jeans commercials that it reminds you of. 

>Phil Collins has covered very few songs by other artists, and only one of
>them has become a hit for him. I can think of: Tomorrow Never Knows,
>by the Beatles, You Can't Hurry Love, by some Mowtown group (who didn't 
>write the song either :)), One Stephen Bishop song for a movie, and Groovy
>Kind of Love, which was the hit. There may be a couple others.

"Behind the Lines" was the first cover that he did.  (Yes, he covered a
Genesis song.)

--
jester@crash.cts.com
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:14340 alt.rock-n-roll:9983
From: tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:23:48 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe

In article <1992Apr12.212143.3369@sbcs.sunysb.edu> chrmurph@engws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Christopher Murphy) writes:
>In article <92100.224336U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>In article <1992Apr7.022627.15011@nic.unh.edu>, tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C
>>Webb) says:
>>
>>Yeah you're right Guns and Roses sucks. Debbie Gibson, Phil Collins, Amy Grant
>>and CC Music Factory are the coolest bands out there today. I agree Sweet Child
>>of Mine was the worst song ever written. God and I really hate it when G and r
>>swear on their albums. It sends me running for my bible. Yeah, you're also
>>right about the dissonant guitar work. Why even have a guitar when you can
>>simulate the sound on a synthesizer. I also hate groups that write their own
>>songs. It's just too original for me. Just give me some hip-hop beep bop
>>and off to the bathroom I go to wack off. You guys would make great music
>>critics if you had ears.
>
>Wait... Your saying that Debbie Gibson, Phil Collins, Amy Grant, and CC 
>Music Factory are the coolest bands out there?  Not. First of all these 
>"singers" are all electrically fixed up to sound the way they do.  Phil
> and Amy do have natural talent and can sing, however the others are just 
>losers off the streets. GNR has music talent and can at least play some 
>instruments where as Debbie and CC Music Factory have to use the pre-
>recorded music for their songs.  Where has the music industry gone when
>all you have to do is lip sync in concert and for videos?
>
>Murpht

What happened to your irony detection equipment?  There was a tongue planted
firmly in cheek in Tim's piece.  Seems to me a lot of you chaps lack the 
ability to spot a bit of smart humour unless it has a red nose stuck on.

For what it's worth,  if you don't like rawkk n rawwl damnation then you
won't like Guns n Roses who are a (unintentionally hilarious) superb 
exponent of the genre.  I personally like that sort of thing,  among other
types of music (and I like my bands to be a bit silly too).

				Tim



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From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Terry Hall in band
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:36:36 GMT
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland

For those who care...

I read that Terry Hall (ex Specials frontman) is in a new band with
washed up old tit Dave Stewart (ex Eurythmics).

This shall hopefully be more successful than both artists lasts attempts
ate fame and fortune.

Note also that Terry co-wrote a few tracks on The Lightning Seeds new LP. 

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From: ningwang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ning Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Please help me identify this song
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:51:55 GMT
Organization: UB


Hi, about 2 weeks ago I heard a song somewhere that I liked, but I never got
got the name/artist of the song..

The song was definately heavy metal.. I can't remember its name, but its about
2-4 words (maybe 3), I *THINK* it contained the word "conformity" or something
like that.. It had a very strange tone.. Kinda reminds me of Islamic religious
songs.. Similar to the part in Megadeth's "Holy Wars" that had no words..

Anybody know what it is???

Any suggestions/guesses appreciated..

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From: jrod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (J. Rodriguez)
Subject: Seal lyrics
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 07:32:41 GMT

Hello all!

Can someone send to me the lyrics to Seal's album?  I have not found them at
the ftp site at cs.uwp.edu.

Thanks in advance!  :-)

j

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From: hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (David Hudson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Lush, MBV, etc. bands
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:32:54 PDT

In article <1992Apr15.201718.25207@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> cap40944@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher A Parrinello) writes:
>Is there a mailing list for bands like My Bloody Valentine, Lush, Ride, etc.
>I think the name that the media uses to lump these bands together is called
>"dream pop". 
>
>If there isn't a"dream pop" mailing list, is there anybody interested in
>starting one? 
>
>
>Chris Parrinello                    | One slip, and down the hole we fall

	I would also like to see such a mailing list.  Other names for
this style of music include "shoegaze," and "wombedelia."  If you
listen to Dave Kendall on MTV, he often refers to this music as 
"ambient noise."

				David Hudson



-- 
David Hudson                         hudson@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu
"Society is a hole. It makes me lie to my friends." - Sonic Youth
"Hate was just a failure of imagination." - Graham Greene
"Dear Baby, Welcome to Dumpsville.  Population: You." - Homer Simpson
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:13967 rec.music.newage:1890
From: keith@celtech.COM (Keith Gregoire)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.newage
Subject: DIRECT - The Vangelis Mailing List
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:52:44 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: Cellular Technical Services, Inc.


Hi,

I have started a mailing list for fans of Vangelis.

Discussion topics on the list would include the artist himself or related 
artists he has worked with (Jon Anderson, Irene Papas, Milva, Aphrodite's 
Child, etc.), or these artists' works.  I'd like to establish a network 
for swapping and/or locating rare and hard-to-find items as part of the 
list's activities.

If you wish to become a member of the list, please send e-mail to

	direct-request@ctsx.celtech.com
		or
	...!uunet!ctsx.celtech.com!direct-request

and ask to be added (I've got a good start so far with 23 members).
-
Keith Gregoire               keith@ctsx.celtech.com
-- 
Keith Gregoire               keith@ctsx.celtech.com              206/727-6337  
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno)
Subject: Re: Genesis more creative than Yes??!!!
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:24:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.155703.12858@cs.hw.ac.uk> aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy) writes:
>>
>>  Sorry, Hans, you get the play-at-home version. Genesis is only making money,
>>while Yes has been making excellent music consistently since they originated.
>>If you knew anything about Yes, you'd know they're not in it for the money.
>>
>
> Well... I didn't exactly say that, did I ?
>
> The case is that I don't consider "Don't kill the Whale" as exellent music.
> Any housewife could play that one on the guitar.
> 
> However I consider "Parallells" exellent music.
>
> Similarly - "Burning Rope" vs. "Abacab".
>
> And that's what happened in 1977.
>
> Hans.

Who cares if any "housewife" can play it. It doesn't matter if a song is easy
to play or not to make it good. Roundabout might be easy to play on the guitar
but it is a good song. You might say it is easy to play, but could you have 
written it they way Yes did it? I don't think so. Having flashy guitar solos
and playing songs in the hardest positions possible does not really make them
good. It is how they are presented. Most of the popular musicians today 
perform easy songs, and many of those songs are popular. I don't think that
Tormato, Drama, and the other Yes albums after are bad. Each album displays
many different aspects in music making. For every weak Yes song on an album
there are many strong songs to support it (On the Silent Wings of Freedom,
Machine Messiah). The point is, no matter how easy a song is, someone had to
write it and that takes some talent.

---Matt
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Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:14332 rec.music.folk:3257 rec.music.bluenote:3395
From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.folk,rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Lyrics Wanted [no, *not* U2 or Tori Amos....]
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:12:48 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

Never mind why, but I've been hunting all over to find a copy of the
lyrics for "Nkosi Sikeleli Africa" - the COSATU song. I don't need a
translation of the lyrics from the original, I need the [Swahili?Zulu?]
lyrics themselves. I know that the world is wide, and I'm hoping I can
find *someone* out there who has 'em or knows 'em.

Asante, bwana. Salaam.

--
Modern times are an awkward spectacle. One the one hand, our public selves
compete for scarce window space, for the opportunity to see in and to where
power is decided and used. On the other, private life recedes like a glacier,
a translucent corner of heaven meant only to be photographed, never settled.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: warrior@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Gary Carter Inc.)
Subject: Re: Little Feat
Reply-To: warrior@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:49:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.151524.23567@ico.isc.com> rays@ico.isc.com (Ray  
Snead) writes:
> jhfrome writes:
> >	I just got Little Feat's REPRESENTING THE MAMBO and am enjoying it
> > very much. Since they have about 1000 albums out, can anyone please  
recommend
> > other albums of theirs to me, comparing them in style and quality to  
MAMBO 
> > so I have a reference point? Thanks a lot.
> 
> This very question comes up remarkably frequently. In short, all real  
Little
> Feat albums (with Lowell George) are orders of magnitude better that  
anything
> post-George. 
> 
> _Representing the Mambo_ is a product of the Little Feat reunion band,  
which
> features the unlikely Craig Fuller (ex Pure Prarie League; "Amie") on  
vocals.> 	        
You forget Many(about1/2) of the songs are song by Paul Barrer(SP) on the  
3 post-Lowell albums.  Paul also song lead on many past Feat Albums.  And  
not to mention the occational Billy Payne Lead Vocals.
FEATFEATFEATFEATFEATFEATFEATFEATFEATFEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 20:50:22 EDT
From: <JDZ101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject:    request for new release dates

Could someone please send the list of new release dates I saw in here a couple
of days ago. THANKS.
From: danieds@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: THE JAM
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:45:17 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

What is thef deal with this new JAM record that is on the charts in England? It
is called "Extras" or something (I forget).  Is this lost tracks or just
another compilation of old stuff?  Somebody please tell me. 

Also, how was the Paul Weller show in New York last December? I have seen mixed
reviews.

Thanks,
Doug Daniel
Western Kentucky Universityy
danieds@wkuvx1.bitnet  

r
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Clash: "bullshit detector" in Garageland
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:06:15 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Keywords: What on earth?

In article <1992Apr4.085903.29989@sfu.ca> wonge@fraser.sfu.ca (Edmund Wong) writes:
> In article <trkisa.702298990@uta.fi> trkisa@uta.fi (Kimmo S{{skilahti) writes:
> >
> >Just listened to "Garageland" by the Clash and remembered a 
> >question that has been bothering me for years.  The lyrics go:
> >
> >Back in the garage with my bullshit detector
> >Carbon monoxide makes sure it's effective...
> >
> >(these come directly from memory, so there may be inaccuracy)
> >
> >What on earth is a "bullshit detector"?  And in what way does
> 
> 	A lie detector?  <hey..just a wild guess>

Given that suicide via carbon monoxide from running a car
in a closed garage isn't unheard of, sounds like an allusion
to put up or shut up.  Life sucks, I'm gonna kill myself -
are you serious or just making noise?

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Commodore, Engineering Department     phone:  215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:56:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.232909.13147@bradley.bradley.edu>, falcon@buhub.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood) writes:
> In <28731@brahms.udel.edu> ferg@brahms.udel.edu (Christopher Ferguson) writes:
> 
>>>
>>>4. JIMI HENDRIX:  Was inventing feedback really that difficult?
>>>
> 
>>If you could name even one person who plays or played guitar that could even
>>stand Hendrix's shadow, I would retract this.
>>ferg
> 
> IMHO:
> Eric Johnson
> Stevie Ray Vaughan
> Eric Clapton
> 
> D. Nathan Hood
> falcon@buhub.bradley.edu
> falcon@camelot.bradley.edu
> --

Not a flame, but Clapton and Vaughan both acknowledged the greatness of, and
their debt to, Hendrix. All three people mentioned here are fantastic
guitarists, but none have revolutionized electric guitar playing the way he
did, me he and Stevie r.i.p.

Of course, it wouldn't be fair to demand that they do, their music stands on
its own...
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|  fscll@alaska                | "And now what shall become of |
|  fscll@acad3.alaska.edu      |  us without any barbarians?   |
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From: billj@seas.smu.edu (Snugglupagus)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:10:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.212143.3369@sbcs.sunysb.edu> chrmurph@engws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Christopher Murphy) writes:
>In article <92100.224336U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>In article <1992Apr7.022627.15011@nic.unh.edu>, tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C
>>Webb) says:
>>
>>Yeah you're right Guns and Roses sucks. Debbie Gibson, Phil Collins, Amy Grant
>>and CC Music Factory are the coolest bands out there today. I agree Sweet Child
>
>Wait... Your saying that Debbie Gibson, Phil Collins, Amy Grant, and CC 
>Music Factory are the coolest bands out there?  Not. First of all these 
>"singers" are all electrically fixed up to sound the way they do.  Phil
> and Amy do have natural talent and can sing, however the others are just 
>losers off the streets. GNR has music talent and can at least play some 
>instruments where as Debbie and CC Music Factory have to use the pre-
>recorded music for their songs.  Where has the music industry gone when
>all you have to do is lip sync in concert and for videos?

if you had a brain in your head, you'd think a bit before posting this
kind of shit.  if you took the time to LEARN a little about the world 
outside your bubble, you wouldn't go around making false claims like the
above.  debbie gibson having to use pre-recorded music for her songs?  NOT!
deb has NEVER used sampled music ANYWHERE - live OR in the studio.  in 
addition, she can play more instruments than the members of gnr combined!  
(not that i know how many instruments they can play, but i'm making a point 
here) and, imho, can sing a shitload better too - UNASSISTED.  where has 
the music industry gone?  look a little harder, maybe you'll find
it....


snugglupagus

ps - AND, i might add, she shows up for her concerts....  :-)
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From: dma@unx.sas.com (Dawn Amos)
Subject: need artist & lyrics ("Time For Me To Fly"?)
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:57:42 GMT
Originator: dma@lacewing.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 327

It's an 80's tune they play on the "classic rock" stations.
The verses usually end,

       I make you laugh
       and you make me cry
       I believe it's time for me to fly....

Who does the tune and what are the lyrics?  If you have a
chance, please send the answers via e-mail.

Thanks very much,
Dawn <dma@unx.sas.com>
From: ggarcia@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Gilbert Garcia)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: MADONNA: Where is she?
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:38:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: pasteur.1992Apr9.043813.15298
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

Does anyone know what is going on with Madonna right now?  I've heard that
she's done with her new album.  She's supposedly waiting to sign a big deal
with Time Warner before she can release it, is this true?

Is there any news out there about her 'exotic book'?  Anyone heard about her
appearing in Michael Jackson's new video?  What about her new movie: A
League of Their Own (with Geena Davis)?  When does this come out?

Just a curious Madonna fan.

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