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From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: THE FOOTBALL GODS HAVE SPOKEN!!!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:20:53 GMT

In <1gibpiINNaa5@rodan.UU.NET> smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield) writes:

>In article <1992Dec14.000132.16735@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>>
>>2nd & 7, ball on 5 yard line, Aikman set to pass while
>>in end zone and the ball comes loose. The SKINS
>>recover! FUCKING TOUCHDOWN!!!  THANK YOU FOOTBALL GODS!!!
>>Aikman fumbles the BALLLL!!!!!   CRYING TIME AGAIN!
>>
>>Do we want INSTANT REPLAY NOW!!!!! Homey thinks so!!

>Looking at this play several times, I agree that based on the rules *as
>they currently stand* I agree that it could not have been ruled a fumble
>(Not that you'll *ever* hear me complain about the result of said bad
>call though).  John Riggins said something on the radio I agree with,
>though.  The rule should be changed such that if the ball's still in the
>QB's hand - it's a fumble.  A quarterback can use a pump fake to avoid
>fumble rulings.  I have to agree with this idea.

Um, at the risk of diving into major controversy here, I have to
disagree.  I watched the replay several times, both during the game, and
later on the news.  I saw Aikman's arm go forward, then BACK, and THEN
the ball came loose.  If it had come out while his arm was going
forward, it would have been an incomplete pass.  As it was, I think that
the call on the field was correct.

>>Bottomline: fuck you, you whining, wimpy cowpussies. you
>>will be crying for the next 7 days! 

As a Niner fan, I would like to say that I find this offensive babble
from another Niner fan to be incredibly stupid and annoying.  I would
like to apologize to the Cowboy fans.  I may hate your team (and you
probably hate mine), but I like to see a clean game played, and clean
cheering by the fans.  There is no justification for this sort of BS!

Gloria, what the fuck is wrong with you?  Not getting any?  (Boy, that
wouldn't surprise me.)  Or are you simply a sociopath who only gets
pleasure from other people's pain?
-- 
Chris Waters    | the insane don't | "Imaginary guitar notes [...] exist only
xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers |  in the imagination of the imaginer" --FZ
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Redskins vs Cowboys
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:00:09 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.football.pro, jh2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph Theodore Helmsen) 
writes:
>    Every Cowboy supporter on the net has been saying how the Cowboys 
>outplayed the Redskins.  I would like to offer another interpretation.  
>Any team that turns the ball over 5 times in one game deserves to lose.  

Yes, Dallas outplayed the Redskins - the statistics shows it - but
the Cowboys' performance was negated by their five turnovers.

Dallas still could have won the game despite the first four turnovers,
but the fifth turnover, The Fumble in the end zone, simply was too much.



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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: Re: The Play of the Day (Skins/Dallas)
Keywords: Lucky Break! Aikman
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:33:58 GMT

In article <douthit.724344638@scofflaw> douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>merrill@hades.stsci.edu (Clark) writes:
>
> [ text deleted ]
>>3.  Why did Aikman not try to get rid of it!  Throw it quick and long out of
>
>Why ! Why ! Why !  Panic overcomes logic unless you've been in the situation
>before.  Hopefully this is merely a learning experience for both Aikman and
>Emmit.
>
>			-Ron (Not whinning) D.
>

Panic comes from not having discipline or you are scared shitless.
In this case, Aikman performed just as expected, i.e., no discipline,
and scared shitless. Sorry but the BOY does not have what it takes
to be REAL QB. He ought to take lessons from Roger S. and then
maybe Aikman can learn something. Homey don't think so. Some aspects
of the game you can learn, e.g., drop back three steps throw,
drop back five steps and read the defense, or find your receivers.
Aikman knows the mechanics of the game, but the nuances/intricacies
of game are unatainable by Aikman.  That is what separates a Montana 
or a Unitas from a wanna be. Yeah, I know. You Cowboys fans will
not realize this or admit it. You are too consumed by your false
hope of grandeur. Face it, As good as you think the 'Boys are,
despite their record, when your 'Boys are facing the firing
squad, they will close their eyes and flinch. Exhibit A: Dallas
vs Washington.
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Subject: Re: Physics 101
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:08:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.134034.14758@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec17.040939.7878@ncar.ucar.edu>, gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
|> > rs> Rick Schaut
|> > 
|> > rs> If the ball goes backward out of the QB's hand, then that hand must have
|> >     been going backward when the QB lost control of the football.  This isn't
|> >     rocket science, folks.
|> > 
|> >   Have you considered the possibility that the ball was momentarily out of
|> >   Aikman's hand, as the result of his passing it, and that it and his arm hit
|> >   the defender at about the same time, driving both arm and ball backwards, 
|> >   but in insufficiently divergent paths so that it looks like Aikman is bring-
|> >   ing the ball back after a pump fake, the ball never having left his hand?
|> > 
|> >   In any case, since we don't have a reverse angle shot, and I suspect that
|> >   instant reply would have deferred to the call on the field because what we
|> >   were able to see was inconclusive, all this debate is rather pointless.
|> > 
|> > --
|> > Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
|> > strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
|> 
|> This is getting to be about as interesting as analysis of the Zapruder film...
|> 
|> Personally, I can't wait for the discovery of the 'pristine football', the ball
|> which was / was not thrown by Aikman.
|> 
|> Check frame 273.  In the background, you can barely see a young Troy Aikman 
|> playing on the Grassy Knoll with the ball still in his hand.  In frame 274, his
|> hand is moving backward but the ball is still in his hand.  No one paid
|> attention to this, however, as in the foreground the president's head was being
|> blown off.

BUT BUT BUT BUT !!!!
Check out frame 265. This clearly shows an encroachment penalty that
was missed when Copeland came across the line and brushed
guard Nate Newton's shoulder. In frame 266, you can hear the whistle
as the play is being blown dead.  :-)   :-)  :-)


|> 
|> The Cowboys lost.  They admitted it (At least Troy did).
|> 
|> Dallas fans, repeat after me:  MY TEAM LOST.
Yep.
|>                                THEY LOST BEFORE.
Many times.
|>                                THEY WILL LOSE AGAIN.
Probably.
|> 
|> Now then, don't you feel better?
No.

|> 
|> Next case...
but judge.........
|> 
|> HO HO FRAGGIN' HO!
|> Kevin L. Stamber
|> Purdue University
|> 
|> COWHER POWER!
|> 


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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:40:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: Mr. Controversy
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:45:40 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)

In article <1992Dec15.193504.25978@colorado.edu> loucks@csn.org (Lord Vader) writes:
>Excuse me for not having the previous Mr. Controversy posting
>in front of me when I responded, thus causing you to be mis-
>identified by me as the Mr. Controversy.

What you did have in front of you, at the time, was an article with a
header which told you precisely who posted the article.  Try reading it.

>Now for your posting...

>>In any event, do _not_ expect to be able to compare one team's history with
>>a blip in another teams history without being flagged for illegal procedure.

>This is absolutely ridiculous.  I have no such choice.  There is absolutely
>no meaning whatsoever to comparisons of two team's records when one
>spans 16 years and the other spans 50+ something.

Do you realize that you've just stated that your attempts to compare the
teams records are meaningless?  In other words, I agree.  That you should
even attempt to compare the records is "absolutely ridiculous".  That's why
some of us choose to compare respective teams' accomplishments (like
whether or not they've ever reached the Super Bowl) instead.

Look, you have a constitutionally protected right to say something stupid.
That does mean, however, that I too have a constitutionally protected right
to point out the stupidity of what you say.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:40:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Play of the Day (Skins/Dallas)
Keywords: Lucky Break! Aikman
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:57:10 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell

In article <1giqdfINNt5l@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.195129.2056@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA) writes:
>>In article <1giadjINNkp5@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
> [ nonsense from Timothy "The Acid MAN" deleted  ]

>The more you whine the more we know its getting too you John,
>No one picks Dallas to win the SuperBowl this year so if we 
>do it's just that much sweeter. Your flamers on the other hand
>(or is that in your other hand) ARE expected to win, if they dont 
>they choke and you will have to digest enough crow to feed Somaila,
>and rest assured there will be many of out here ready to feed it
>to you, spoonfull by spoonfull.....
>
>:-) smiley smiley and all that crap.......
>
>By the way, you want fries with that dude !!!!
>
>Go Cowboys !!!!!!
>

Timothy, you are the whining fool. I AM NOT WHINING, you're the
champion of all whiners. You must be a "closet Niners fan". :-)
Yeah, I can laugh at it, but can you? NOT! Watch out, one of
these days, I will be in an alley. You will piss in your pants
and cry for mercy. I will have a "smirk" on my handsome face
and tell you "I don't have to bleed" before I snuff you out,
you insignificant little maggot you. :-) Ahh, I LOVE IT!
Yeah, Welch, KILL THIS! :-)
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Leroy Butler v. Rod Woodson (was Re: Leroy Butler)
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 18 DEC 92 11:15:36    

In article <1992Dec17.094405.9335@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>, wisp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Wisp) writes...

>In article <1992Dec15.181320.9479@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
> 
>[lots of stuff about Butler's hit...]
> 
>>I don't mean to imply that the hit *shouldn't* have been noticed.  I'm
>>not disputing Butler's suspension.  My point is that the suspension
>>resulted from Butler throwing himself through the air at Ware, not
>>from the hit being late or particularly severe.
>>
>>This is important because it supports my belief that Butler was not
>>trying to hurt Ware and that the act was not permeditated.  I think
>>Butler got carried away and did something that he regretted even
>>before the suspension.
>>
>Oh come on! Are you seriously trying to say that Butler went leaping
>through the air, aiming a forearm smash at the side of Ware's head without any
>intention of hurting him? Give me a break!
> 
>Maybe he regretted it as soon as he'd done it. Maybe it wasn't premeditated
>(probably, in fact, IMHO). That doesn't alter the fact that it was a very
>stupid and *dangerous* thing to do, and it was very lucky that Ware didn't get
>hurt. Of course he should have been suspended.

I'd be interested in what evidence you have that the hit *was* 
premeditated.  I've presented what I consider evidence to the 
contrary.

I think in the heat of battle, Butler simply got carried away and did 
something very stupid and dangerous.  That's all.

JGH
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Updates
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:41:35 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell

Kansas City	 21		NY Giants   35  * FINAL SATURDAY 
Tampa Bay  14			San Francisco  21  * FINAL SATURDAY 
LA Rams  10		 		Green Bay  28 
Minnesota  0		 	Pittsburgh  3  
Phoenix 10		 		Indianapolis  3 
Washington	13	 		Philadelphia  14
Buffalo  3		 		New Orleans  13 
Houston  3		 		Cleveland  7 
England  7		 		Cincinnati 14 
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids, MI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eddie Murray was(Re: 49ers have the 'Ladie
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:07:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: ghidrah.central.sun.com

In article 1gt7f9INN4kt@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM, nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids, MI) writes:
>
>Murray is not kicking for the Buccaneers.  Don't know what happened to 
           ^^^^
	    NOW, sory

nate

>Willis.
>
>nate




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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Only the Buccaneers could manage this.
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:56:46 GMT

I read where Joe Montana may make his long-awaited debut this week
against the Buccaneers.  I posted my suspicions here recently that
the Buccaneers might be interested in Joe.  Does anyone think that
the 49'ers might, if they decide to play him, be showcasing him to
prepare for a trade?
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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy Johnson: Love em or hate em, he's a winner (and a whiner)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:55:48 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Dec17.172014.17834@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
 >In article <1gq3flINN1h9@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
 >>Maybe Gibbs should "resort".....
 >>
 >>JJ and the Cowboys are   11-3
 >>Gibbs and the skins are   9-5
 >Geez, give them one season and they think they are the biggest winner in
 >the history of the sport.
 >
 >JJ and the Boys are:  0
 >Gibbs and the Skins are: 3
 >
 >Guess what those numbers are.

Your IQ maybe ?

Oh I get it,
 Wasn't that the Readskins record in RFK vs Dallas until last weekend.
Your own home stadium....tisk, tisk....

Go Cowboys !!!
tim



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From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: A BIG SORRY ..... It was a system error.
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:08:40 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)

In article <1992Dec14.175812.7172@Princeton.EDU> hariharn@khan.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
>About 100 copies of one of my articles got posted on r.s.f.p. 
>I am sorry for what happened over the last weekend.
>It was obviously not my fault; something is wrong with the news 
>reader here. I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused 
>and promise to check with my system manager before I post next time. 

No problem, Ramesh.  You should know that there were a few of us who were
not so quick to condemn, and who sent messages to the system administrators
alerting them of the problem.

BTW, for those who were quick to flame, the proper tactic is precisely the
above.  The easiest way to accomplish this is to reply to the article as if
you were replying to the poster via e-mail, and change the poster's e-mail
name to 'root' in the 'To:' line of the header.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
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From: daveshao@leland.stanford.edu (David Shao)
Subject: Arithmetic?
Originator: daveshao@leland.Stanford.EDU
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 21:08:40 GMT

Every day I see the strangest examples of ignorance of elementary
mathematics.  Watching the end of the 49er Viking game, I see on the
television that there are 1 minute and 32 seconds left, and the
49ers have the ball on second down with the lead and the Vikings out
of timeouts.  Now if the offense has a 45 second clock which controls
how long they can wait before running a play, it seems obvious to me
that all the 49ers have to do is to have Young fall on the ball twice.
True, 45*2 is only 90 seconds, but on the other hand I have never seen
officials who start the 45 second clock within 1 second after the ball is 
snapped.  But the 49ers decide to run Rathman up the middle.  Fortunately, 
he didn't fumble the ball, but if he had this would have gone down as
a blunder as terrible as the fumble several years ago in the 
Giants-Eagles game.

Even worse were the comments being offered by the CBS announcing crew.
They were saying that the 49ers would have to punt, and the Vikings 
would get the ball back with 6 to 10 seconds left!

Amp Lee near the end made a nice play to stay in bounds after a good
run putting the 49ers in the position to merely fall on the ball.
It's good to see a rookie make the right decision when so many times
I see the running back running out of bounds without a care in the
world.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 14:50:44 MST
From: <IADGLC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 79 Cowboy-Skins Game
Distribution: rec

As a nearly lifelong Skins fan, I too remember that '79 game vividly. Roger
Staubach proved to me that day why he deserves consideration for
best of all time lists. That defeat crushed me. As someone else has noted,
a win by the Skins meant division champs, homefield, etc. A loss meant home for
the holidays. But I will also say that for sheer competitive excitement, that
game belongs among the very best of all time, a great way to climax the great
Skins-Boys rivalry of the 70s. The fact that people have started bringing that
game up in the same breath with the 12/13 match at RFK gives me hope that the
rivalry will revive. I just hope the Skins are the ones making the big dance
through most of the 90s!

gc
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