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From: ala@fico.uucp
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Reply-To: ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley)
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies, San Rafael, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:13:51 GMT

In article <1gnqsgINNkg0@smurf.sti.com> dgreen@smurf.sti.com (Dan R. Greening) writes:
>>In article <4771@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> tlam@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>>Who out there in netland calls themselves "queer"?
>
>I think it must relate to me being comfortable with 
>myself, and who I am:  Yeah, I'm a fag.  So what?

This reminds me of when I was in LA.  My best friend Joe and I would go to
really ritzy restaurants and he would always find a way to say "fag" really
loud and make the table around us look over.  I thought it was a hoot!
I mean, imagine 50 year old stuffy matrons sitting at the next table...
Makes me want to lean over and say, "Get used to it!"
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From: decot@cup.hp.com (Dave Decot)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: FYI Marky Mark / Calvin Klein @ Macy's Union Sq. Sat
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:36:19 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Yeah, so what.  What a fucking twink... etc. blah blah blah
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: ala@fico.uucp
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Reply-To: ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley)
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies, San Rafael, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:26:50 GMT

In article <1grbosINNptf@agate.berkeley.edu> lmk2@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
{story deleted}
>Well, my friend, who looks like a 45 year old "stuffy matron," had
		      ^^^^^
She "looks" like a stuffy matron, but she isn't a stuffy matron.  I guess
I forgot to put a smiley on my comment before.  The ladies at the next 
table from us were the original ultra-concervative, can't stand the 
thought of fornication, would faint if they saw any PDA, stuffy matrons.
I wasn't generalizing, I know a lot of older women who are wilder than
I am, but these were the originals!  :)
From: lmk2@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Date: 18 Dec 1992 02:07:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec17.191351.19467@fico.uucp> ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:
>In article <1gnqsgINNkg0@smurf.sti.com> dgreen@smurf.sti.com (Dan R. Greening) writes:
>
>This reminds me of when I was in LA.  My best friend Joe and I would go to
>really ritzy restaurants and he would always find a way to say "fag" really
>loud and make the table around us look over.  I thought it was a hoot!
>I mean, imagine 50 year old stuffy matrons sitting at the next table...
>Makes me want to lean over and say, "Get used to it!"

This reminds me of when a lesbian Israeli friend of mine was visiting.
You need pretty good radar to pick out the Israeli lesbians, especially
those over 40 (not including American/Israelis).  Well, she was in
San Francisco and a couple of young dykes/queer girls/lesbians/whatever
were on the bus near her, so she asked them directions to somewhere.
Hearing my friend's accent they "put on a show" for her, after politely
giving directions of course, as if to show the foreigner "Get used to
it!"  Well, my friend, who looks like a 45 year old "stuffy matron," had
quite a laugh at this.

I've heard this before, about shocking the "old ladies," and let me 
tell you, I have received more acceptance from "old ladies" than I
have from my straight contemporaries.  My grandmother is the one who
made my mother and father realize that I am just a person.  The list
goes on and on.  Just because someone is old doesn't mean that they have
never seen P.D.A.s and never thought of being in love/lust with someone
of their own sex.  It also doesn't meant they're not gay or lesbian or
queer or whatever.  As we are so fond of saying, "we are everywhere,"
even in stuffy restaurants and even working the counter at Denny's.

Leslie


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From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.men
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Keywords: gay queer language
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:53:49 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motss
Distribution: usa

In article <4771@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us>, tlam@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
> 
> Who out there in netland calls themselves "queer"?

 I do, it describes me weel :-)

 LUX ./. owen

--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen

  " It will be a cold March 17th that I celebrate the imposition of
	Romes rule, on Pagan Ireland. Erin go ppphhhhhttttttt! "
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:38:38 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <liur11INN4af@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> ba.motss writes:
>I am one Dike 
          ^^^^
You mean Dyke... Right?

This makes me remember the tale of the little Dutch boy who liked to
put his fingers in... well, you know the story.

I also like the term Klondykes, which was used by some lesbian friends
in the great white north :)

Tom

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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:07:27 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <liur11INN4af@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> ba.motss writes:
>
> I am 32 and use 'Queer' all of the time.

I'm 37 and *never* use the word to describe myself.

>  THe word that I hate
> is Lesbian - to me it sounds like a reptile.  Like the
> elimination of the word faggot for men 

Elimination?  By whom?  When?  Why?  I love the
word "faggot".  It's how I describe myself.  I also
like "fag" a lot, but "faggot" has such a nice ring.

> I am one Dike who
> would like the elimination of Lesbian for woman (that 
> should make a few people squirm).

I'm not squirming.  "Lesbian" does sound awfully clinical.

Arne
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: cheap SF hotels?
From: hsu@walnut.SFSU.EDU (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:08:58 PST
Distribution: ba
Organization: San Francisco State University

I've been asked for suggestions for cheap hotels in San Francisco,
on the order of $50/night or cheaper, for 3-4 nights. My inquirer
is visiting for the Mac convention thingie at Moscone in January,
and would like to be close to public transport. He's gay, in case
anyone's curious.

Please email suggestions to hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu. Thanks!

Bill
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From: jct@mti.sgi.com (Chris Thomas)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
Subject: Info wanted on South Bay CO-2 boycott/activism/...
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:03:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: twink.mti.sgi.com

Hi, folk!

Are you taking positive steps to fight Amendment 2?  If you're in the
San Jose/South Bay area, I'd like to hear from you.

Maybe your company has decided not to do business with Colorado corporations,
or not to fund travel to Colorado.  Perhaps your group has organized a
letter or postcard campaign.  Maybe you're raising funds for Equality
Colorado or one of the other groups.  Maybe you're looking at other non-
boycott solutions.

If you're involved as part of a group, drop me a note.  Many thanks!


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From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: GLAS Contact... et. al.
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:57:39 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California

> michaelk@netcom.com (Michael Kronstadt) writes:
>I'm in somewhat of a similar boat.  Abbott Labs in general and our
>(800 person) site in specific are trying to address diversity issues in
>greater depth.  Our site has just started a diversity roundtable of about
>a dozen employees--and as one of the few _out_ gay people here I'm one of
>them.
>
>I'd really appreciate information from people participating in more
>established diversity efforts, and especially from people involved in
>organizing G/L/B employee groups where there wasn't already a well
>established "community."

You might want to get involved with the Bay Area chapter of
the National Gay & Lesbian Task Force's (NGLTF) Workplace
Initiative.  It's a loose coalition of employee groups and
individuals representing ~30 local corporations and other
organizations.  It meets monthly to share information on the
kinds of issues you're probably facing.  The chairperson is
Dan Barber from PG&E.  You can reach Dan at 415/973-4704, or
dpb2%ees@mcs.pge.com
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From: max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Gay CD-ROM
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:44:58 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1992Dec11.171401.4329@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>wally@netcom.com (Wally Schwarz) wrote: 
>->For those of you who may have missed a previous posting of mine, I have a
>->limited number of compact discs that contain 5,147 gay all male gifs.
>
>are these original images you've created, or images you've pirated
>from magazines?

It looks like the images are from all types of sources.  Some appear to
be scanned.  Others look like they were lifted from porno video.

The indexing is awful.  A folder called   A   and filenames like  AW001.gif;1
then there's a folder called  B  with  ...  well, you get the picture.

...Max

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From: dgreen@smurf.sti.com (Dan R. Greening)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.men
Subject: Re: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:00:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Software Transformation, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: smurf.sti.com


>In article <4771@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us> tlam@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us writes:
>
>Who out there in netland calls themselves "queer"?

I sometimes do.

Actually, I don't have much problem with being called any particular valid
label, from fag to queer to gay to whatever.  It's the intent of the speaker
which is in question, but even then I'm not sure it matters.  The other day,
an obnoxious neighbor of mine (probably not particularly homophobic, but 
rather intending to pick a fight) called me a fag.  The epithet didn't sting.
In retrospect, it seems remarkable because there was a time when it would
bother me greatly.  I think it must relate to me being comfortable with 
myself, and who I am:  Yeah, I'm a fag.  So what?
-- 
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From: tlam@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.men
Subject: Calling oneself "QUEER"
Keywords: gay queer language
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:03:05 GMT
Reply-To: tlam@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Distribution: usa


Who out there in netland calls themselves "queer"?
Here in Santa Cruz it seems to be mostly lesbians, gay men, and bisexuals under thr
the age of 25-30. While some older people (such as moi) also use it, many others
can't stand it. Many of those that do use it like it for its brevity, 
inclusivititity, and forcefullness. "Queer" brings the power of an epithet 
turned around. Those that dislike using queer often object to it because of it's
epithetic past, and also general meaning of strange and different--which are 
precisely the same reasons many of us love it. Any thoughts??
Tom Kwai Lam
tlam@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Tom of Finland -- playing anywhere?
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:11:58 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <156300001@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com> richw@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Rich Webber) writes:
>Does anyone know if "Daddy and The Muscle Academy", the documentary of
>Tom of Finland, is currently playing anywhere in the Bay Area?  I think
>it was at the Castro in SF recently, but is it (or will it be) anywhere
>else now or soon?

It starts today (Friday) at the Towne in San Jose.
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                                                                   -- J. Foster
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: GLAS Contact... et. al.
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:41:25 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

Hi folks... my company is gearing up to meet the competition in 
the HR arena in '93 by recognizing social, political, personal, 
and ethnic diversity in the workplace.  Since I have a vested 
interest in this (both from an employment perspective and as 
one of the board members for NOGLSTP), I would appreciate it 
if you can give me phone, email, and/or snail-mail contact info
for your HR diversity reps and also (most importantly) any g/l 
diversity groups which you might have.

Best Regards,
Tom Barrett

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| My views may not be shared by the organization of origin
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Band to play at inaugural
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:12:35 GMT

As you've heard, members of the San Francisco Lesbian and Gay Freedom Day
Marching Band and Twirling Corps (if I got that right), along with other
members of lesbian and gay bands around the country, have been invited to
perform in the inaugural festivities in Washington next month (Steve Levine
wrote an article about it for soc.motss recently). 

About 15 people from San Francisco are going.  I don't know what kind of
fundraising they're going to be doing (it's a no-expenses paid trip), but I
urge you all to support them. 

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From: sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin)
Newsgroups: ba.dance
Subject: Scandinavian Dance Parties
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:55:35 GMT
Organization: Lick Observatory UCSC
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

Party #1:

Nordic Footnotes Presents:
Scandinavian Dance & Holiday Party
Saturday, Dec 19, 1992, 7:30 pm
Attire: festive dress or costume optional
Please bring POTLUCK Holiday Goodies
Drop-In Musicians Welcome
$5 admission (I think), live music (I think)

First Methodist Church
2915 Broadway Ave (at corner of Brewster)
Redwood City

Contact: Sarah Kirton (415) 323 - 2226 or Betsy McKone (415) 368 - 8006

Party #2:

Same as Above, except:

Norweigian Dance Party -- Loretta Kelley, hardingfele
Saturday, Jan 16, 1993
1st Christian Church
80 South 5th St
San Jose
$7 admission

Brian Sutin				sutin@lick.ucsc.edu
Lick Observatory, UCSC			Santa Cruz, CA 95064
    Fred:   "May I rescue you?"
    Ginger: "No, thank you.  I prefer being in distress."
Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: chilton@netcom.com (Jeffrey K. Chilton)
Subject: Re: Do Your Own Dance
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:19:11 GMT


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                 MID PENINSULA COMMUNITY DANCE JAMS
                 EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT (except Dec 25th & Jan 1)
                 8 to 11pm

At the Zohar Dance Studio 
(At Cubberley Community Center between San Antonio and East Charleston)

                4000 Middlefield Road, Room L5, Palo Alto

                $7 Drop-in, Children Free, Dance/Job exchange
                Information: Call Jean Sanderson at (415) 857-9445

DO YOUR OWN DANCE is self-improvisational dance - usually by your self.
No experience is necessary, and everyone is invited to freely move to a
variety of mostly upbeat rhythms, beats and live drumming.

As an  alternative  to  clubs, or  other social  scenes, DYOD  provides
a grounded safe  place where you  can take off  your shoes,  and simply
by listening to the music, explore and expand your own natural creative
expression.

A deeper awareness and opening to relationships can be accessed as each
of us  shares a  sense  of relaxed  community, exuberant energy, mutual
respect, and fun.

DYOD is a not-for-profit, cooperatively run dance, encouraging age,
cultural & socio-economic diversity.

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Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: suzanne@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Suzanne McCaffrey)
Subject: Re: African and Haitian dance classes?
Keywords:  dance
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:42:09 GMT

you should also check out WAJUMBE DANCE GROUP at the Center for
African-American American Art & Culture in San Francisco.


Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: rhn@netcom.com (Ron Nicholson)
Subject: BYU  ballroom dance camp'93 info
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:37:51 GMT

The flyers for BYU ballroom dance camp are out.
Registrations should be postmarked on Thursday, January 14, 1993.
Camp tuition is $240. On campus food and housing is $110. Info (801) 378-4851.
There are two sessions again this year. 

	Session One				Session Two
	-----------				-----------
	June 21-25				August 2-6
			Camp Directors:
			Lee and Linda Wakefield

			Instructors
			-----------
			Ron Montez
			Elizabeth Curtis
			Buddy Schwimmer
						Laurie Schwimmer
	Pierre and Mirielle Allaire		Johan and Nadia Eftedal
	Jim and Jenell Maranto			Ken and Sheila Sloan
	Chris Morris 				Debbie Avalos

			Dances to be Taught
			-------------------
			West Coast Swing
			Two Step
			Lifts and Drops

	Int. Latin Rumba			Int. Latin Cha Cha
	Int. Latin Samba			Int. Latin Paso Doble
	Tango (Int. and Am. style)		Int. Quickstep
	Am. Mambo				Jive & East Coast Swing
	Am. Smooth Waltz			Am. Smooth Foxtrot

This year the talent night will be at the Excelsior Hotel. An afternoon at
Seven Peaks water park and a camp bag are included.

Last year over 40 people from the SF bay area attended the August camp.
Two years ago even people who mailed in their applications on the first day
of registration ended up on the waiting list.

---
Oblig. disclaimer: This posting is purely for informational purposes.
I have no business interest in dance camp.  I am merely a very satisfied
attendee of previous BYU ballroom dance camps.

Ronald H. Nicholson, Jr.	rhn@netcom.com, rhn@sigm.com
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!!   and Hear
Organization: The Off Beat
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:27:09 GMT

> Rasputin's Records in Berkeley is now in a larger building, but I think
> they still don't have as much stuff as Amoeba. What do you think?

Rasputin's has put all their same surly, unhelpful and unpleasant
employees into a new monolith.  New building, same store.

Amoeba, on the other hand, has a much more interesting stock, and most
of the employees will even *talk* to you.
 
> There is a small CD place in West Berkeley called Hear. The store is
> beautifully decorated but the CDs are too expensive. Do you think it
> will last long?

Hear is a rather interesting store.  Their prices are high, and their stock
is almost entirely major label... on the other hand, they have lots of
listening stations, and will let you listen to anything in the store.  They
have a really interesting selection of backstock items on display (e.g.,
a display and listening station for Sonny Rollins "Vol. 2" on Bluenote).

-dx
Newsgroups: ba.general,ba.wanted
From: dks@gallant.apple.com (dk smith)
Subject: Re: Car stereo installation recommendations?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:24:33 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Dec15.174219.10249@netcom.com> altinbay@netcom.com (John Altinbay) writes:
>Does anyone have a recommendation for a place that will install
>car stereos?  

Yes! I highly recommend Auto Fidelity at 415 969-5895. Bob or Gary
are extremely knowledgeable and helpful. I recently had (IMHO) a huge
amount of work done there. It was nothing short of "very well-done".
Gary's attention to detail and desire to do things "the right way"
is quite re-assuring in a world *littered* with places like Dealers,
Discount, and all the other places usually advertised with voices
that sound like KOME's Raceway brothers. 

>I would prefer a place close to San Mateo.  

Bummer. This place is on the hill-side of El Camino just 
South of Castro in MV.

>I have
>the car, I have the stereo, 

Bummer again. It is usually best to let an experienced installer guide
(or lead) the choices of components. After all, if they are worth their
salt, then few folks will know better how to fit a system to a car.

>I need a place that will do a good job
>putting them together.

Auto Fidelity, nuff said.

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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: wotan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Draeker)
Subject: How Do I Run an ad in Russia?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305 USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 03:39:21 GMT


Somebody out there has to know how to do this. Am interested in running an ad 
in a Russian newspaper. I don't have any problem getting it translated, but 
need to know how to submit the thing, arrange payment etc. Any ideas?

scott@krypton.stanford.edu
415-725-7275