From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Citecheck Hell)
Subject: Ed babbles again
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:47:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.021547.1223@Princeton.EDU> egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ed Nilges) writes:
>But according to the arguments of Ted "Tedster" Frank, Charles "Goofus"
>Perez, Henry "Jackanapes" Schaffer, and Chris "Knucklehead" Morton, Adolf
>is a noble citizen exercising his right of free speech, is he not?
>Criticising poor Adolf creates a "chilling effect" on his freedom
>of speech and as such should not be done.  Booting him off the net would
>violate, would it not, Adolf's First Amendment rights.

Sorry.  Don't agree with statements two or three in your paragraph.
You'll just have to misattribute them to someone else, because I
certainly never made any arguments of the kind.

>Powers That Be; Jesse Jackson in the past mounted a serious, credible
>alternative to centrist politics, so credible that he was carefully
>destroyed by (false) charges of anti-Semitism,

If a Jewish candidate said "nigger" in reference to blacks, what
would your reaction be, Ed?

It took Jackson eight years to get around to apologizing, and he
still hasn't disavowed people like Farrakhan.

 in somewhat the same way
>Jerry Brown's campaign was destroyed.  

What way was that?  Bron lost because he didn't have enough votes.

>Adolf's racism has for me one saving grace. He's out there with it.  He's
>not like Richard A. Posner, whose law 'n economix has been demonstrated
>in this newsgroup to be racist (cf. "Othello the monstrous black miscegenator").

1)  That precise quote is a misquote.

2) In context, it's been demonstrated very well that the statement wasn't
   racist.

3) You have yet to explain what the book "Law and Literature" has
   to do with the field "law and economics" other than the first two
   words.

>
>And I'd hazard that new-fangled, Posneroid racism, in that it involves

Ed, document your lie, or stop making it.  The man publishes two books
and a hundred Court of Appeals decisions a year.  If the best you can do
is that he correctly identified Othello as a miscegenator that would be
monstrous to Shakespearean audiences, you're hardly qualified to criticize

>I am not defending Adolf; he should be booted off the net.  And I have a
>coherent set of reasons for denying him his "free speech" whereas the
>closet racists who encourage the Adolfs and Robert A. Viktoras do not.

Meanwhile, Ed, I'm waiting for you to define a hate-speech law that would
ban Viktora and "Amos'n'Andy," but leave uncensored what you called the
"high quality" work of the Marx Brothers and the "honesty" of Henry Miller.

I'm beginning to think that your irrational attacks on Posner is nothing
more than thinly-veiled anti-Semitism, to go along with the anti-Italian,
sexist, elitist, bigoted views you've already demonstrated on the net.
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