From: pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett)
Subject: Re: Alabama better than Michigan
Summary: fgdh
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:11:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov04.224816.37346@uvmark.uucp>, davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
> In article <BILLMS.92Nov4130828@dip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
> >In article <1992Nov04.145017.39699@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
> >
> >   In article <vanepps-041192042124@aha260.ccs.itd.umich.edu> vanepps@engin.umich.edu (Daniel Van Epps) writes:
> >   >In article <wexjRmS00iUyE6AJJM@andrew.cmu.edu>, William Karamo Motley
> >   ><wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> >   >> 
> >   >> BAMA BAMA BAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >   >
> >   >get real, play somebody.  when you've had as many injuries as us
> >   >& still go undefeated please let us know. or do we have to meet you
> >   >in another bowl game like last time?
> >
> >
> >   ????  "play somebody" ????   Are you sure you are a Michigan fan? Or are
> >   you really a Miami/Washington fan in Michigan??   Though Michigan is 
> >   undefeated, let's put it Bama's way.. "When you play eight games and 
> >   win them all, then we will talk...".   Michigan is the last team in the
> >   nation to talk about "play somebody".  
> >
> >Dave, 
> >	There's a problem here.  You keep bringing up the sticks and stones
> >argument: michigan fans shouldn't bitch about alabama's competition because
> >michigan hasn't played anybody either.  Most people on the net who are
> >michigan fans (not all from umich are, see our friend chang) have agreed with
> >you all along.  A says: "my team should be #1 and its a crock
> >that we are behind michigan".  M says: "give me a break, you
> >haven't played anybody".  D says: "give me a break, neither has michigan". 
> >
> >M's comment is true independent of wether it can also be applied to M's team.
> >You haven't refuted M's point.  If you think somebody, e.g. Daniel, is being
> >hypocritical please show us where he stood up and claimed michigan has played
> >a tough schedule.
> >
> 
> It isn't the fact concerning whether M's comment is true or not that was 
> being addressed, but rather, the "get real, play somebody.  when you've
> had as many injuries as us & still go undefeated pleast let us know".  
> I am neither an Alabama fan, nor a Michigan fan.  I do not dislike either
> team (though, being from Purdue, I had to like last weeks game :-) )..  And
> though I don't agree with the senseless, mindless woofing the net gets from
> people like Mr. Motley, I don't agree with the attitude displayed by 
> Mr. Van Epps either.  The "holier-than-though" attitude, if you well.  
> If someone wants to put down Alabama's schedule, that is easy to do.  If 
> someone want's to put it down as an inferior schedule, or woof that there 
> team is somehow superior ('injuries yet still undefeated...') with 
> misleading information (acting as if their team has something to say, and
> using the teams weak point as an arguing tool.. that is, if someone wants to
> argue that Michigan is a #1 team, and wants to look at their stats and 
> performances, that is fine.  However, if someone is goofy enough to act
> superior, and bring up schedule strength as an arguing tool, well... I just
> had to put my two cents worth...
> 
> So, anyway, though Daniel didn't state that Michigan has played a tough 
> schedule, he criticizes a team for it's lack of schedule, and places them
> under his team because of it, seemingly forgetting the complete lack of 
> competition Michigan has faced as well.  
> -- 
> David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
> VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
> uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
> davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"

Alabama has won all its games 
michigan has not!   PERIOD!!!
ENOUGH SAID   GO BAMA
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