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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Getting Faculty Position. What is the secret ?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:48:13 GMT

In article <92Jul29.152252edt.306@smoke.cs.toronto.edu>, gh@cs.toronto.edu (Graeme Hirst) writes:

|>  -- Padded listings:  If the same paper or talk has more than one
|> status, don't list it twice.  Example:  Your conference paper or
|> dissertation itself is published as a technical report.  List it once,
|> with a parenthetical notation about the TR, rather than once under one
|> heading and then again under another.

Where is the boundary between padding and listing?

Typically the paper you write for a conference proceedings turns into a
really polished paper in a Journal, should one of these not be listed?

How about if that polished paper were rejected after several rewrites and
wound up becomming a TR or TM? At what point do the papers become so similar
that listing both is padding? Is there a cretain critical amount of time,
data or rewrites that mark the point at which the two should be listed
seperately?

If you have occasion to give a presentation on your work out side of your
university, but not at a conference, when should this be listed seperately
from the papers that you write on the same thing?

|>  -- Volume:  I've got a huge stack of these things to read.  I don't
|> want to see your whole dissertation.  A one-page abstract is
|> sufficient.  A couple of papers are okay; but I won't read them unless
|> you make the short-short-list.

Although I'm certainly not about to apply for a faculty position, there are
two jobs that I have held which I think I was chosen for based on the papers
I sent with my application. The intent with these wasn't that they be read in
their entirety, but that they be scanned so that the faculty members doing the
hiring would see what I'm capable of (You wouldn't believe how strong a bias
faculty have against the research abilities of a pre-collegian. In many
universities you can't get a summer job without a paper which you can't write
without a job, for which you need a paper....  Its a horrible system).

If you send in a long paper, will the people doing the hiring at least scan it
and the abstract, or will it automatically be ignored because of its length?
Will sending a paper which is too long to read hurt you even if it is scanned
and appears to demonstrate significant ability?

Jason W. Solinsky
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: esl_manager@uh.edu ()
Subject: Doing a PhD in 2nd/3rd tier University
Reply-To: esl_manager@uh.edu ()
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:37:08 GMT

	So far, most of the articles I've read in this newsgroup aren't very
optimistic; but, of course, I cannot blame the writers since the economy
is still anaemic.  If you guys from universities that I consider 1st
tier are facing unexpected challenges in looking for a job after
graduation,  is it even wise for students to pursue a PhD in a 2nd/3rd
tier university? Wouldn't these graduates be facing an even more
challenging search for jobs?

	Please advise.
---
Arthur
From: knicholl@ics.uci.edu (Kimberly Nicholls)
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
Subject: Going into industry
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:28:52 GMT
Reply-To: knicholl@ics.uci.edu (Kimberly Nicholls)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Jul23.045248.14172@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>More generally, I'd like to hear ANYONE currently in the field
>describe what a good research-oriented career might include, not
>necessarily in academia.  Descriptions of a few actual persons' career
>paths (names not required), for example, would be a welcome break from
>attempts to forecast the global economy into the next century.
>
>-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
>
Related to this question, I'd like to know what going into industry means.  
If you do research, how is it different from research in academia?  If not, 
what would you call what you do?  I'm especially interested in hearing from 
people in the life sciences.

Kimberly Nicholls
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: chepan@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Parthasarathy Nambi)
Subject: Pacific Northwest Lab
Summary: What is it like to work at Battelle Labs.
Keywords: Battelle, Northwest
Organization: Georgia State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:34:27 GMT

 Hi,

 I have applied for research positions at Battelle Labs at Richland, WA.
 If any of you worked there or know about that place well, I would
 like to know what is it like to work in that place. My field of 
 research is in Biophysical chemistry (physical studies of DNA,
 membranes). My current work is all on computer simulations of
 bio systems.  Any info relating to computational work at Battelle
 will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks in advance.

 P. Nambi

Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: maniattb@cs.rpi.edu (Bill Maniatty)
Subject: Re: Interview Experiences?
Distribution: world, local
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:03:10 GMT

My interviewing experiences are after my Bachelors in Computer Science, and
before my graduate school experiences.  While a B.S. is not enough to do
research, I have some experiences which people may be interested in.

I have been on both sides of the table in the interview process.  If you are
on good terms with somebody at the employer's organization, then your chances
are much better (that is you have an in).  When interviewed for C.S. positions,
the employer will want to determine your skill level with their particular
hardware/software.  Employers at the B.S. level don't want to train at all,
they want someone to pick up the ball and run with it.  In the current market,
buyers are at an advantage, and competition for any position is tough.  You
will probably want to brush up on the particulars of the hardware/software before
the interview.  During the interview you want to demonstrate knowledge, but
if confronted with something you don't know, then just say you don't know,
giving a wrong answer could be a nail in your coffin.  Making the employer
feel at ease, and showing enthusiasm/well roundedness is also important.
If you have a common hobby with the employer, that might become a topic of
conversation.  Remember the employer is wondering ``Can I stand to spend 8+
hours a day, 5 days a week over the next few years with this person?''.

Some things to try to avoid are talking about money too early in the interview
process (almost never on the first interview), disclosing your current salary,
your marital plans/status (employers may overlook you if you are perceived as
being on the ``mommy track'' and single men are viewed as willing to work longer
hours, and are sometimes preferred over married men), and any plans you have
for further education (many places do NOT want you to pursue higher education
even on your own time and out of your own pocket - some employers feel that you
will move on, or command a higher salary with the training, so they block it).

Hope this helps,

Bill
-- 
|
|	maniattb@cs.rpi.edu - in real life Bill Maniatty
|
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: moore@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: Bad children, no career!
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:04:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.134114.4301@bb1t.monsanto.com> tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
>Boy, was I excited when this newsgroup first appeared...  Now I'm sick
>and tired and disgusted.  If spoiled, whining children is all that
>our grad schools can turn out now, I'll surely not hire any of them!
>You'll never *HAVE* a career until you grow up and that doesn't seem
>likely for most of you in the near future.  Yup, give me a mature 
>undergrad that I can train.  I often look to the net for prospects to
>pass on to our recruiter...  This newsgroup is the *LAST* place I'd
>look for candidates!  If you waste bandwidth like this, I can imagine
>what you'd do to research money. 
>

To each his own.  If you thought that we were posting to this newsgroup
in the hope of impressing some recruiter, you are really out of it.

It is a fact that an awful lot of people out there are under- or unemployed.
That you find it uncouth to hear mention of this fact will not
change the reality.  I have been through a situation similar to this when
I was layed off from a Chem. E. job in the early '80s.  One thing I learned
then (but is still difficult to keep clearly in mind) is that the vast
majority of people will want to believe that you somehow did something
to bring on your situation, not matter what the true situation was (in
my case something like 80% of our department was axed).  If there is
any use to this newsgroup, I think it is to share the facts of our
respective experiences and thus gain a perspective on it so we
can stop beating ourselves up and cowering in fear when we hear things
like the above.

--
Brian Moore
Chem. Dept.  Univ. of British Columbia  moore@theory.chem.ubc.ca

Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
From: harigaya@etl.go.jp (Kikuo Harigaya)
Subject: Re: ICTP(Trieste,ITALY) E-mail address is very needed
Content-Type: text/plain
Reply-To: harigaya@etl.go.jp (Kikuo Harigaya,,,Bussei-kiso)
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:55:00 GMT

On 07/17/92(02:04) kdv@rimeda.lt.su (Dmitry V. Kolomoitsev ) wrote
in <AAutPPgeV5@rimeda.lt.su> (sci.research.careers:289/etlss2):
 |may be you can help me? -
 |
 |THE E-MAIL ADDRESS OF
 |INTERNATIONAL CENTRE OF THEORETICAL PHYSICS (ICTP, Trieste, ITALY)
 |IS NEEDED VERY MUCH.
 |
 |THANK YOU.

The formats of the e-mail addresses in ICTP are:

username@itsictp.bitnet

and 

username@ictp.trieste.it

Regards,

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From: rsherme@nswc-wo.navy.mil (Russel Shermer)
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
Subject: YSN: The Young Scientists Network
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:23:57 GMT
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center - White Oak


I would like to introduce you to the Young Scientists Network.

Currently YSN consists of an emailing to over 800 addresses world-wide.
The interests of YSN and sci.research.careers are similar.  There has
been talk in the YSN mailings of the possibility of automated posting to 
sci.research.careers and/or vice-versa.  Most likely, we will post
a few of the YSN articles to this group and guage the response.

Here are some details.

The goals of this group are:

1) To let the press, public, and government officials know that there
is no shortage of scientists.

2) To find traditional and non-traditional employment for scientists.

Letters from and articles about our group have appeared on American
Public Radio, in The Chronicle of Higher Education, the New York
Times, and Science.  Our letters to the President in 1991 helped
initiate a Congressional investigation of the NSF over the way it
handled the 'shortage' reports, and a hearing was held April 8, 1992
at which our founder, Kevin Aylesworth, testified. Our representatives
have been invited to meetings with leaders of the physics community,
the staff of the President's science advisor (D.  Allan Bromley), and
the director of the NSF (Walter Massey). The Network has been mostly
targeted at physicists but everyone is welcome to join. We share ideas,
gripes, advice, and job tips, and occasionally have letter-writing campaigns.
We hope to have our messages posted on sci.research.careers in the near
future. If you wish to have access immediately, send a membership request
to ysn-adm@zoyd.ee.washington.edu.
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     Using the Network

Messages for broadcast to the
entire group should be sent to:         ysn@zoyd.ee.washington.edu

General questions, add/delete
requests should be sent to:             ysn-adm@zoyd.ee.washington.edu

If you wish to broadcast a
message anonymously, send it to:        ysn-adm@zoyd.ee.washington.edu
and ask the list manager to
post a message for you.

The current list manager is John Sahr, 206 685 4816, with email
   ysn-adm@zoyd.ee.washington.edu   [ 128.95.31.40 ]

Archives of YSN postings are available through anonymous ftp at
   lupulus.ssc.gov [ 143.202.64.30 ]



	---Russ Shermer
(some of this material was contributed by John Sahr and Kevin Aylesworth,
the mistakes are mine.)
From: merolajs@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (JOSEPH S. MEROLA DEPT OF CHEMISTRY VPI&SU)
Newsgroups: sci.research.careers
Subject: Re: Interview Experiences?
Keywords: Resumes
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world, local
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40

In article <1992Jul23.193325.4150@eng.ufl.edu>, jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (Jon Mellott) writes...
>As a followup to Ed Hartnett's long posting on job search tips, I'd like to 
>share a little advice on resumes. 
> 
>A lot of people have taken to writing their own resumes and doing the 
>layout themselves. Typically, the people who do this use a Mac with a 
>PostScript printer. Unfortunately, these people know nothing about 
>graphic design, so I'd like to give a few tips.
> 
(some excellent advice omitted)

Both Ed and Jon have given some excellent advice here.  I'd like to add
a small point in terms of resumes.  Definitely use nice paper.
However, be careful about the color choice.  There is one philosophy
that says you use a wild color so it really stands out.  The drawback
of this is, especially for industrial positions, that your resume is
going to get reproduced a dozen times for distribution to a lot of
people.  So, at best, the color won't matter.  At worst, the color
will cause a poor copy to be made thus making a poor impression.

A minor point, but still one to consider.

Joseph Merola
Department of Chemistry
Virginia Tech (aka VPI&SU)
Xref: sparky sci.research:824 sci.math.stat:1491 sci.math:9432 sci.engr:1849
Newsgroups: sci.research,sci.math.stat,sci.math,sci.engr
Subject: Re: Advice Needed : How to contain a net defamation campaign ?
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:32:08 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <92204.050230U53644@uicvm.uic.edu> <U53644@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>The question is : How do I put a stop to this sort of thing ?

Easy. Stop responding to it.

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: sci.research
From: tapiiri@vipunen.hut.fi (Pirita Mikkanen)
Subject: POST GRADUATE / OSU
Reply-To: tapiiri@vipunen.hut.fi (Pirita Mikkanen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:43:32 GMT


URGENT INFORMATION NEEDED 


I am interested in possibilities to attend post graduate
courses on fluid mechanics and combustion at the Oregon State Univeristy.

For budgeting my combined research and study period in US
I need some information on fees for foreign students at OSU.
Also all the information not written on the official guide books
is very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

Pirita Mikkanen
researcher
-- 
* Pirita Mikkanen		*  Olen elossa			*
* p tomaatti 701 2451		*	Olen siis onnellinen	*
* p ty| 456 4772		*			;)	*
Newsgroups: sci.research,sci.math.stat,sci.math,sci.engr
From: mmhemsi@isrc.sandia.gov (Michelle M. Hemsing)
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: Doing Research on Divorces
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:49:43 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Org. 1600, Albq., NM

I am a college student writing a English research paper
about the effects of a divorce on an individual (whether
then are the husband, wife, children, relative, etc.)  I am
interested in the negative effects as well as the positive
ones (if there are any).

Please respond as soon as you can, and I would appreciate
it if you could give me some background information.  For
example:
Were you the child of a divorce?
How old were you?
How does it effect you today?
What is your outlook on marriage before and after the
divorce?
Any comments are welcome.  Thank you

Sincerely Michelle  mmhemsi@isrc.sandia.gov

If you don't mind, could I have your e-mail address in case
I have a question about your reply?
Xref: sparky sci.research:840 sci.materials:567
From: chaiken@cmsgee.llnl.gov (Alison Chaiken)
Newsgroups: sci.research,sci.materials
Subject: Need phone number for Ted Pella
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:57:26 GMT
Followup-To: sci.research
Distribution: ca
Organization: /sowa/sowa/News/organization

I'm looking for the Silicon Valley area phone number for Ted Pella, a
company which sells wafer-handling equipment and such.    The national
800 number I have on file doesn't work in this area.

Thanks in advance.

---
Alison Chaiken				chaiken@cmsgee.llnl.gov
(510) 422-7129				OR alison@wsrcc.com
(510) 422-7300 (FAX)
From: nkk@wet.UUCP (N. K.)
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: Re: Management Games/Simulation Packages: Info rqd
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:19:25 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

SMG (Strategic Management Group)
SMG Products Group
3624 Market Street
Philadelphia, PA 19104
(215) 387-4000
(800) 445-7089
(215) 387-3653 (FAX)

Nana Odoi, Ph.D.
Manager, Products
From: keith@msmri.med.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: WANTED: Pointer to FAQ and archive site for sci.research
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:11:38 GMT
Organization: Physics, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

I am new to the sci.research newsgroup and would like to catch up on recent 
postings.  I am interested in the anonymous ftp address of the newsgroup's
archives and frequently asked questions list.  A pointer to the newgroups
charter would also be helpful.

Thanks in advance.


Keith S Cover
Dept. of Physics
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, B.C., Canada
keith@msmri.med.ubc.ca
From: nkk@wet.UUCP (N. K.)
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: Re: Management Games/Simulation Packages: Info rqd
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:08:31 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

try SMG in Philadelphia.
They make simulation games for business management.
They made a very good export strategy model for
the Port of New York which they converted into a
management game to teach and develop exports.
From: ethan@ut-emx.uucp (Ethan Tecumseh Vishniac)
Newsgroups: sci.research
Subject: Re: Repost of The '92 Election
Summary: This isn't true for NSF
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:30:56 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <1992Jul20.232904.24101@anat.UMSMED.EDU>, tpm@anat.UMSMED.EDU (Terence P. Ma) writes:
> I wrote:
> I do not believe that [the current administration] deserves criticism for the
> >overall level of funding of science in the US.
> 
> I *strongly* disagree.  The current administration has not
> adequately increased the science budget, especially in biomedical
> sciences and the non-big-ticket areas of the NSF budget, at all.
> Typically, the actual dollars (purchasing power) are smaller.  It is
> Congress that we have to thank for the minimal increases that
> biomedical sciences have received.

Your comments certainly do not apply to NSF.  The administration has 
consistently been supporting large increases in the NSF budget (this 
year, for example, they suggested 18 per cent).  These increases have not 
fared well in congress.  I don't know all the ins and outs of NIH funding, 
but I am under the impression that the administration has supported somewhat 
smaller increases there and congress has habitually allotted more than 
requested.  In the current economic climate this is not going to continue, 
regardless of who is elected.

Folks, I believe that there are good reasons to dump Bush, but it is
unrealistic to expect that this will lead to increased funding for
the sciences.  It might even have the opposite effect. 
-- 
"Quis tamen tale studium, quo ad primam omnium rerum causam evehimur,
tamquam inutile aut contemnendum detractare ac deprimere ausit?"-Bridel
Ethan T. Vishniac, Dept. of Astronomy, The University of Texas at Austin
Austin, Texas, 78712                   ethan@astro.as.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: sci.research
From: kohli@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: Management Games/Simulation Packages: Info rqd
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:28:10 GMT

Is anybody aware of Management Games, or Computerized simulation packages
for use in Manufacturing, and Healthcare.

There is one in Marketing called Micro-compete put out by IRWIN publishers.

These are used for simulating conditions to test hypotheses in a Lab setting.

The game (a misnomer) is also like a case study, that proivdes you with a 
scinerio, and asks for the user's input.  Such inputs by users are then
captured as subject data.

THese may be called by different names in other fields.  Any information
will be appreciated.

Rajiv