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From: atrw0176@cellar.org (Atrw93)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Amtrak's future under a Clinton administration
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:36:36 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:

>  
>  * Upgrading of the old D&H line from Albany to Montreal. Who owns it now?
> Could Amtrak acquire it? The Adirondack between Albany and Montreal has the
> worst on-time record of any train in the Northeast. Something should be 
> done about it. A high-speed corridor from Montreal to NYC would be my 
> ultimate pipe-dream goal here, but that'd take lots of work.
>  
As long as the US Customs service believes that every traveler is
smuggling drugs and takes its arrogant attitude toward the train service,
no one knows how much to allow for border travel.

If you make it a reasonably expected time they will hold you up
anothe 30 min to two hours. If you allow more time in the schedule
and they finish fast, then you sit and wait out your departure
time.

Hopefully with NAFTA, we can dispense with idiotic practices ( and the
idiots who implement them.

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From: pierson@ggone.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Subject: Re: Vranich on Texas High-Speed Rail (aviation subsidies)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:02 GMT

>|> In article <1992Nov17.175553.19500@ntmtv> adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian
Brandt) writes, in part:

>|> 	It is interesting that the airline officials the most
>|> interested in high-speed rail are those in airlines with a lot of
>|> long-distance business. I guess they feel that they have less to lose
>|> by shifting a lot of their shorter-distance business over to rail. And
>|> they would certainly gain in airport access by increasing passenger
>|> rail service to airports.

	There is an interesting (IMO) historical precedent.  About 1900, the
	Hudson & Manhattan Tunnel company started the first of the tunnels
	under the Hudson River, from Jersey, to offer commuter service to NYC.
	Originally, they were nervous that the might Pennsylvania RR might
	object.  In fact, the PRR was pleased.  They would MUCH rather do the
	long haul/prestige/maybe_even_profitable business & leave the local
	stuff to someone else.

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
40 Old Bolton Rd		|I am the NRA.
Stow, Mass		01775	pierson@msd26.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: gemmellj@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: More on Bos to Portland, Me rail service
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:56:27 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

Hi folks.  just thought I'd update the new Amtrack service to Down East
(that is Maine).
They will be 4 round trips every day..
In the state of MA, the speed limit would be 60 mph at max.  In NH and ME,
the speed limit will be up to 79 mph..  It is expected that the route
will take less than 2 hours....
In Haverhill, MA  , the AMSHACK would be either at Haverhill or Bradford
MBTA stations.  Officials have not decided on which location yet.

It is expected that this new service would commence in a year.

Now I'm wondering on how Amtrack would get the trains from S. Station to
N. Station??? After all, they are not connected.... So, is Amtrack going
to connect them or is this connection part of Boston's third harbor
tunnel/ Central Artery project?? AKA the "big dig"

john
From: kolassa@genesee.bst.rochester.edu (John Kolassa)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Amtrak's future under a Clinton administration
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:47:40 GMT
Reply-To: kolassa@genesee.bst.rochester.edu (John Kolassa)
Organization: University of Rochester Biostatistics.

In article <9211211825.AA23885@ccpngw.in2p3.fr>, percus@pnheap.in2p3.fr (Allon Percus) writes:
> > A possible solution would be for customs to go through the train while it
> > is travelling.  This has been implemented in Europe for as long as I remember
> > (and I am over 40 years, I think the last cases where you had to get out of
> > the train or somesuch was in the late 50s).
> 
> And furthermore I think this would be very easy to do on the Montreal
> trains as there is no passenger stop on the Canadian side of the border
> until St-Lambert (just outside of Montreal itself).  This gives the
> border officials almost an hour or so do their inspections, etc.  For
> the southbound trains they could get on at Montreal (where there is
> already a U.S. Customs office at the train station), begin the inspection
> after St-Lambert and then get off after the border.  For the northbound
> trains it's basically the same thing, they could get on at the border,
> which would give them plenty of time to finish the inspection before
> arriving at St-Lambert.
> 
> Allon Percus

This solution appears to be ideal.  Too bad:
1) It hasn't been implimented.
2) It wouldn't also work on trains to Toronto, which make important stops 
close to the border on both sides.
-- 
Thanks, John Kolassa, kolassa@bio1.bst.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: pierson@ggone.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Subject: Re: Maximum Flatcar Length?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:17:12 GMT

In article <2837@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, romeo@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Michael Stimac)
writes...
>In article <1992Nov16.144840.6429@newstand.syr.edu>
>cwebster@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Chris Webster) writes:
>>What is the longest load that can be carried on a flatcar?  I suspect
>>it's about 90 feet, but I thought I'd check. (North American standards)

>Well, your article header asks one question, and the body of your
>message asks a different question. I assume from the explanation
>about a class that you want to know the longest load that can
>be carried by railway in North America.

	To confirm what Michael and Harald said, consider the use of "idler"
	cars.  As it happens, I saw some "long" beams (girders?) waiting in
	Denver, some years back.  Without checking the photos, they spanned
	either two or three idler flats, between the load bearing ones, which
	would make them upwards of 200 feet.

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
40 Old Bolton Rd		|I am the NRA.
Stow, Mass		01775	pierson@msd26.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: memanuel@cbnews.cb.att.com (mark.emanuele)
Subject: Re: Staten Island Rapid Transit
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:18:45 GMT


I remember as a kid some 25 or so years age taking a ferry from Perth Amboy, NJ
across the Auther Kill to the Tottenville Train Station (SIRT) then taking it
to the Manhattan Ferry. It was quite a ride.


-- 
Mark A. Emanuele			memanuele@attmail.com
Sr. Network Engineer			(201)331-4713
AT&T Easylink Services	400 Interpace Pkwy   Parsippany, NJ 07054
From: eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Train Master Program
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:54:31 EST
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

sdejour@mksol.dseg.ti.com (stewart l dejournett) writes:

> Hi
> 
> I say an ad in the Dec Trains for a computer program called Train Master
> from Corporate Strategies in Springfield VA.  Has anyone every seen this
> program?  For $75 I would like to get a recomendation first.  The ad
> states that they are a very popular program.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help
> stewart
> 

Trainmaster is a very realistic simulator.  However, it doesn't have cab 
views as one would expect.  It is best described as a Line Graph, which 
moves along the screen going up and down according to the elevation of 
the railroad, simulating grades.  One uses real Road Values of the 
railroad one selects.  Thus the PRRNYCHI is the Pennsylvania Main from 
Chicago to New York City.  Some of the track I have been over, matches 
the track in the simulator along with the signals.  The current upgrade 
which I have designates the various cities and signals one passes.  With 
VGA, one can realistically run a train on various lines around the 
country.  The Company has quite a few disks of track lines which they 
have to offer.  If you wish to see how a train handles, and get an idea 
of the performance of trains, definitely try it.  If you expect to look 
out the cab window (circa Flight Simulator), Forget it!!!  However, I 
have offered attempts on this to many an engineer from Conrail, and other 
roads, and many of them have been fired for running signals.  I have also 
shown people how trains, moving at 35 MPH take so long to stop.  Some of 
this is an eye opener to young drivers, who have no idea it takes a 
loaded train that long.  You make up your mind, and hope that if you do 
purchase it, you will have fun with it.


--
eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476
From: gemmellj@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: UPDATE ON BOSTON TO PORTLAND, ME SERVICE
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:56:55 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <1992Nov17.121352.2435@merrimack.edu>, gemmellj@merrimack.edu writes:
> Just a quick update on rail service from Boston to Portland, ME.
> A few days ago, the stops were selected they are:
> 1) Boston -orgin
> 2) Woburn, MA
> 3) Haverhill, MA
> 4) Exeter, NH
> 5) Durham, NH (note stops only on weekends. probally because the Univ. of NH. 
>               (is there)
> 6)Dover, NH
> 7) Saco, ME
> 8) Wells, ME
> 9) Portland, ME
   Also note that seasonal service  would be extended to Old Orchard Beach, ME 
 
> Not sure when service is *actually* going to commence.
> 
> on another note, when does the Swedish train engine makes it debut
> on the NE corridor??
> 
> john

This train will start on the Lowell branch of the MBTA commutter rail and
somewhere around Wilmington, MA it goes to a branch line that goes to 
Lowell Junction, MA (Andover) the Ballardvale MBTA station is closest to
Lowell Junction.  From Andover, the train will go through Lawerance, MA,
N. Andover, MA, Haverhill, MA, Plastow, NH,  , ect.
I forget what comes after Plastow.

john
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: lancelot@spock.uucp (Thor Lancelot Simon)
Subject: Re: Amtrak List of Trains by # (LOOONG) (fwd)
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:13:58 GMT

In article <Pine.3.05.9211151945.A26182-e100000@uafhp.uark.edu> plaws@uafhp.uark.edu (Peter Laws) writes:
> 1) Taken from _Amtrak System Train Timetables_, valid through 4/3/93.
> 2) Does not include Thanksgiving Week Extras (aka Railfan Glory Days 8-) ).
> 3) Days of Service are similiar to VIA Rail: 1 is Monday, x67 = no
>weekend service.
> 4) Portland OR is PDX *not* DPX as listed in current Timetable.
> 5) Also available in comma delimited ascii
> 6) Waht's the deal with the Fast Mail?  Who wants to go from BOS to SPG
                              ^^^^^^^^^
                                   ^^^^
>at 1 am anyhow?
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From: rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: November Northstar Chapter NRHS Meeting
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:45:02 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

Sorry 'bout the global distribution...

The next November meeting of the Northstar Chapter NRHS will
be held this saturday, November 21st, at the James J Hill
House, 240 Summit ave, St.Paul. Tours are available at 5:30 pm,
and the meeting starts at 6:30. 

Dick Prosser will give a slide presentation recalling
one of his many "Hobo adventures". This is a showcase 
event for the Northstar Chapter, and everyone is invited!

--Dan Meyer
Remember: " Buffalo never Oink " Seen on a South Dakota travel brocure.
Advertisment: Try the Railway Post Office , a railfan BBS ! (612) 377-2197.
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From: elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Alcos Stalling (was Re: GE chugging)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:03:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp) says:
>In article <1ea25lINNo7e@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema) writes:
>>In a previous article, U93_PTUPACZE@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU (Prime Mover Software Development) says:

>>  They share more than that...GE's FDL-16 has the same bore, stroke, and RPM
>>as the Alco 251.  I made some recordings of GBW C424's last summer, and 
>>was surprised at how similar they sounded to the B23-7's I got on the ATSF.
>
>Speaking of Alco, ever notice how the older ones idle just above
>"stall"?  I remember listening to CNJ RS3's and NYS&W RS1's idling.
>You'd swear they would stall at any moment.  But they never did, they
>just kept on.

  CVL's RS3 4099 seemed pretty stable when I heard it, but 539-engined Alcos 
another story.  There's a recording on the record _First Generation Diesels
Volume II_ of C&NW RS1 1069 in which the engine really does stall, twice! 
And this was while it was being used!  The crew would throttle it up, and when
they notched it back down to idle, the governor wouldn't pick up in time and 
the engine would stall.  I don't know where the isolation switch is on an RS1,
but if it's back in the engine room like an EMD, I can imagine restarting the
engine might get a little tedious after a while.  I'd guess after about three 
incidents like this the engineer probably cried, "Screw it!  Get me a geep!"

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From: jbvb@vax.ftp.com  (James B. VanBokkelen)
Subject: Re: Why long end of engine forward?
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Reply-To: jbvb@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:13:08

In article <1992Nov16.183626.7277@ee.ryerson.ca> cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam) writes:

    hess@stat.ncsu.edu (George Hess) writes:

    >Does anyone know why Norfolk Southern (and their ancestors, N&W and
    >Southern) runtheir engines long end forward?

    I always speculated that the powers that be had such a strong tie
    to steam power that they chose to operate diesel locomotives in a
    way resembling steam locomotives, with the cab at the rear end.

I think it was actually because the crew is better-protected when the long
hood is between them and a gravel truck they're about to crunch.

James B. VanBokkelen		2 High St., North Andover, MA  01845
FTP Software Inc.		voice: (508) 685-4000  fax: (508) 794-4488

Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Failure of Proposition 156
Organization: LLNL
Distribution: ca
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 08:40:38 GMT


	As some of you fellow Californians may know by now,
Proposition 156, for issuing $1 billion in bonds to finance
passenger-rail improvements, failed (52% to 48%).

	Why did it fail? Though it passed in places like the Bay Area,
it failed due to rejection by rural areas and highway-heavy places
like Orange, Riverside, and San Bernardino Counties, which did not see
much benefit out of it. And there was the perception that it would
only be additional debt.

	This means that the funding for rail improvements and
construction will have to come from other sources, such as road
budgets. Alternately, an emergency legislative measure may be passed,
or the bond issue offered again, or the bond money added to the
expected 1994 bond-issue measure (that is, it will be $1 billion more
than the original amount).

	But on a more positive note, the new Amtrak schedule features
1 extra train/direction/day for both the San Joaquins and the San
Diegans (now 4 and 9 trains/dir/day respectively, not counting the
Orange County commuter train).

	The schedule of the Capitols is unchanged; there are none of
the new stops promised for the Oakland Coliseum and Hayward / Union
City / Fremont.

	However, there is no indication that the trains will be going
significantly faster. Maybe that's what Proposition 156 was for :-(


	What's the status of plans for high-speed trains along the
Coast Starlight's LA-SF route? Currently, the CS takes about 11 hours
to make the trip, equivalent to only 30 mph going straight (the train
goes 45 mph on a very curvy track).

	And what about Central Valley high-speed railroading?

	Or will that have to wait until Clinton gets inaugurated? ;-)

Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: netnews@ulysses.att.com (Steve Bellovin)
Subject: bullet train death
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:00:35 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

I just saw a news story about the first bullet train death.  Someone
ran across a field and onto the tracks, apparently with the intention
of committing suicide.  The crew tried applying the emergency brakes,
but couldn't stop in time.
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: roma@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Roma)
Subject: Re: Amtrak List of Trains by # (LOOONG) (fwd)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:25:40 GMT

tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist) writes:

>In article <Pine.3.05.9211151945.A26182-e100000@uafhp.uark.edu> plaws@uafhp.uark.edu (Peter Laws) writes:

>    1) Taken from _Amtrak System Train Timetables_, valid through 4/3/93.
>
>     1 Sunset Ltd.             NOL LAX 136 Comb w/21 SAS

>Why does Amtrak use what I assume are *airport* designators for
>stations? Isn't that both stupid, as trains are supposed to compete
>with airplanes, and misleading, as many cities have several airports,
>none of which presumably are as conveniently located as the railway
>station(s)?

The appearance to airport codes is merely coincidental.  Amtrak has its own
system of three-letter codes.  While some of these are the same as various
cities' airport codes, other are not.  Amtrak's scheme tends to be more
mnemonic than the codes used by the airlines.

For example, Chicago-O'Hare airport is ORD; Amtrak's Chicago designation is
the more-logical CHI.  New Orleans' airport is MSY; Amtrak uses NOL.  My
home town of Champaign, Illinois is known to the airlines as CMI but to
Amtrak as CHM.
-- 
Jon Roma
Computing and Communications Services Office,
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Internet:  roma@uiuc.edu      	UUCP:      uunet!uiucuxc!uiuc.edu!roma
From: 737ochs@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: GE chugging
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:48:10 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <FsoiuB2w164w@cellar.org>, atrw0176@cellar.org (Atrw93) writes:
> billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> >  They share more than that...GE's FDL-16 has the same bore, stroke, and RPM
>> >as the Alco 251.  I made some recordings of GBW C424's last summer, and 
>> >was surprised at how similar they sounded to the B23-7's I got on the ATSF.
>> 
>> Speaking of Alco, ever notice how the older ones idle just above
>> "stall"?  I remember listening to CNJ RS3's and NYS&W RS1's idling.
>> You'd swear they would stall at any moment.  But they never did, they
>> just kept on.
> 
> Don't overlook the fact that the Alcos, 539, 244, & 251 as well as
> all of the GE engines are four cycle engines (like most cars)
> and that EMD stuck with the two cycle concept (like your B&S
> lawn mower engine). The near stall sound on the Alcos was due to the
> GE electric governor cycling.
> 
Not to be a nitpick :) but actually, Briggs and Stratton are 4 cycle,
Lawn boy's, most chainsaws and weed-wackers (gas powered) are 2 cycle

I love nitpicking ;^)
Fred
From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Subject: Steam diary part 2
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:38:29 GMT


On Thursday 26 November, two steam hauled trains will run from Newport to
Bacchus Marsh.

Train #1, K153 and 7 vehicles
Newport 0820, Sunshine 0845-0910, Ardeer 0914-0916, Deer Park 0920-0922,
Parwan Loop 0953-1014, Bacchus Marsh 1022-1109, Melton 1130-1158, Parwan
Loop 1210-1217, Bacchus Marsh 1227-1355, Rockbank 1421-1429, Deer Park
1443-1445, Ardeer 1550-1553, Sunshine 1458-1500, Newport 1525

Train #2, R707+R766 and 13 vehicles
R707 departs Newport at 0805 and runs to Tottenham Yard to turn.
R766+13 vehicles runs Newport 0835, Brooklyn 0851-0856 (attach R707),
Sunshine 0907-0910, Ardeer 0914-0916, Deer Park 0920-0922, Deer Park West
Junction 0929-0934, Melton 0955-1018, Bacchus Marsh 1038-1055, Ballan
1140-1200, Bacchus Marsh 1240-1334, Deer Park 1417-1420, Ardeer 1425-1428,
Sunshine 1433-1435, Newport 1505


David Bromage
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Subject: Re: GE chugging
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From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Subject: Re: Vandalism
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:05:23 GMT

Well, the good news is that most of the paint has been removed and K153
now looks respectable. Some buff paint was thrown on the leading carriage
but this was cleaned off at Eltham (water based). K153 will be running to
Bacchus Marsh next week.

Next week's steam diary is:

Tue 24 Nov: K153+9 vehicles. (E and W cars)
	Newport 0645, Brooklyn 0700-0745 (turn loco on triangle),
	Albion Junction 0757, Broadmeadows 0813, Somerton 0822-0848,
	Broadmeadows 0855-0900, Sunshine 0921-0942, Rockbank 1003-1021,
	Bacchus Marsh 1050-1335, Sunshine 1418-1432, Broadmeadows 1454-1456,
	Somerton 1503-1520, Brooklyn 1605-1640 (turn loco), Newport 1655.
Wed 25 Nov: K153+9 vehicles. (E and W cars)
	Newport 0845, Sunshine 0902, Deer Park 0912-0918, Parwan Loop
	0945-1014, Bacchus Marsh 1022-1455, Deer Park 1400-1405,
	Sunshine 1415, Newport 1440. The light engine to turn on
	triangle Newport 1500, Brooklyn 1508, Tottenham Yard 1513,
	Sunshine 1523-1534, Brooklyn 1543, Newport 1551
 K190+8 vehicles (2xAV, 2xBV, BL, 2xABU, 2xZD) running empty from Ballarat 
	to Newport via North Geelong (afternoon)
 Thu 26 Nov: same as Wed but two other trains.
 K190+8 vehicles. Newport to Bacchus Marsh and return, thence empty to
		  Ballarat via North Geelong.
 R766+7 vehicles (E and W cars). Newport to Bacchus Marsh and return.
 Times still not certain. Probably 0900 and 0930 (approx) ex Newport.

Kind regards to you all
David Bromage