HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: How about a new newsgroup here?
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:05:53 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> In article <1jkucc$eu@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu 
=> (Henry Robertson) writes:
=> >>
=> >It eludes me, these crazed anti-Rikiya netters.  Obviously, he must tickle a
=> >sensitive chord in them, or else they wouldn't be responding the way they do.
=> >Come on, anti-Rikiya-ites, are you that insecure against opposing ideas?

In article <1jl7p6$2rh@agate.berkeley.edu>, 
lindaa@omen.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher) writes:
=> I agree with Henry on this point; certain netters take an unnerving delight
=> in ridiculing his postings.  What's really disturbing is that attacking
=> Rikiya on a personal level takes precedence over refuting his points.
=> 
=> Argue (if you will) that his misspellings and passionate ideas invite
=> ridicule--I say that *no one* in the group deserves to be treated the
=> way Rikiya has been for the past few months.
=> 
=> Besides, all these fifth-grade taunts are turn-offs to the few women
=> who *do* read this group...not a good way to impress gals, you know. :-)

Not a good way to impress many guys either. I wrote yesterday about
"the voice of reason crying in the wilderness" in response to the
netter who half-jokingly suggested a new newsgroup. I hope I wasn't
misunderstood, but my remark was not aimed at Asano himself, but at
the "Riki Baiters" who have to poke at him every time he posts something. 
The sum total of those posts have now greatly exceeded the aggravation
level of Asano-kun himself :-)

Linda has some good points. Henry too. We probably have to learn to
live with Riki, like it or not. I learned a long time ago not to
respond to his posts and get him going off on tangents. Could people
please try to confine Riki baiting to private email, if you must
do it, and keep the public stuff only for discussion of his ideas?

Seriously. 

- Bill Lambert
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Y. MIshima
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:56:29 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <gfLo=cq00iV2I8DF4H@andrew.cmu.edu> by Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>:

> Mr. Morton writes:( sorry I couldn't ignore you any longer)

Of course not Rikiko, that's no way to treat your betters.

> >I remember from the scriptures that Peter said, "It's easier to get a camel
> >through the eye of a needle than to get Rikiko into a decent Japanese
> >university".
> 
> Do you know that you may have committed the unforgivable sin? By

"Sin"?  What's that...?

> attributing to the Holy Ghost something that is evil. In this case, a
> lie! You know that you were lying on God's Holy Word! You should
> consider this. As for the Japanese University stuff- I have accepted
> this fact for a long time. So, your continual
> beagerring of this point is hopeless.
> 
As an agnostic I consider it irrelevant.  You should consider that your utter
academic failure in Japan was a message.  I'm sure you won't though.

> I'am a master student in America. This is all that matters now. I oplan

Well, a master something anyway....

> in the future to enter at least two universities when I get back to
> Nippon. One of them is the Tokyo University of the Fine Arts and Music.

Like you planned to attend one in the first place?  I plan to ascend the
throne of Japan too.  I think our chances are about equal.

> At first, I wrote this big post comparing you to Wayne Williams but the
> computer machine cut off on me. So, nothing else.

You know that when the hardware's laughing at you, you don't have anything
worth saying.....

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Christopher Morton
From: BFLV@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (BFLV000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:54:42 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In Japan, it is not uncommon and yet clearly absurd for a German
to be hired to teach English over an American with Chinese
parentage, purely on the strengthof his Aryan complexion.
I was shocked to read the following story - when the publicity
photos were being taken for a company brochure, a qualified
teacher from Hawaii was rudely  asked to step aside from the staff
portrait.  How do you think about this?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:18:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.060929.28480@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
	arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:

>>>But I dare say, pinup-girl type of women can attract more students
>>>than non-pinup-girl type of women can do. ...
>>There are two confounding issues here: 
>>On general level,
>>please think again about it substituting "pinup-girl type of women"
>>with your favorite majority group label, "non pinup-girl type of
>>women" with a label of a minority group to see if your comment make
>>sense.      
>
>He was stating facts, not agreeing that they're a good thing.

Yes! Yes! Yes! That's right. That's exactly what I did.

# Hey, now you owe me. > Mr. keis ^_^;

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
From: john@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Romanski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Ratings in Japan
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:01:11 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

On 22 Jan 93 05:39:34 GMT, Larry Greenfield wrote:
: Does anyone have a list of the highest rated TV shows in Japan 
: currently they might want to post?  Also, what's "new" in the movie 
: theares in Japan now?

Besides standard Japanese fair, I am sure all of last summer's
blockbusters are being released about now.(Batman Returns, for example.)
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From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Help Needed...
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:43:51 GMT
	<1993Jan20.023529.26594@til.til.com> <1993Jan21.084440.3263@peanut>
Organization: AIC Systems Lab., Sendai, Japan
In-reply-to: andym@bvc.edu's message of 21 Jan 93 14:44:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.084440.3263@peanut> andym@bvc.edu writes:

 > In article <1993Jan20.023529.26594@til.til.com>, tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka) writes:
 > > In article <1j2461INNdv4@aurora.engr.LaTech.edu>, yyy@engr.LaTech.edu (Yan Y. Yu) writes:
 > > [....]
 > > One place you might try, (for information if for nothing else) is JUNET.
 > > My 1990 Directory of Electronic Mail lists ...
 > > 
 > >    JUNET
 > >    * Electronic mail
 > >    * USENET news
 > >    Contact:
 > >      Jun Murai
 > >      WIDE Project
 > >      Keio University
 > >      5322 Endo, Fujisawa City
 > >      Kanagawa, Japan
 > > 
 > >      telephone: +81 466 47 5111 extension 3336
 > >      e-mail:    jun@wide.ad.jp
 > > 
 > > Hope this helps.
 > > 
 > 
 > 
 > Good one.  I have tried to write Mr. Murai-kamisama on a number of 
 > occassions asking for help; never, NEVER have I ever received any sort of 
 > reply.
 > 
 > Maybe he was just on an extended kampa!?!?!?!??!
 > 
 > Andy Mumma

Well, it's not my job to defend Murai Sensei - but I know he's pretty
busy with various tasks. BTW, would you write to President Clinton for
the phone number of some White House technical staff member?

Thomas

PS: I guess this doesn't help you. If you could please mail me your
request once more (I lost track of the original question - sorry), I
can try to find a few domain names. Another possibility is the JNIC
whois server 'whois -h nic.ad.jp <person/domain/university/...>'. If
your terminal can't handle kanji you should add '/e' to the query for
English-only output.
From: andym@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Youth hostels
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:59:24 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <HARKCOM.93Jan26182543@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>, harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:
> In article <w0wsXB8w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us> larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us
>    (Larry Greenfield) writes:
> 
>  =}   Youth Hosteling in Japan is cheap(est), and best of all, a LOT of 
>  =}fun!
> 
>    Youth Hosteling is one of the cheapest forms of sacking out in Japan.
> But make sure you get a Japanese Youth Hostel card.  Many (all?) Youth
> Hostels don't accept other Youth Hostel cards... (or perhaps this has
> changed now...)


It may well have....  Last year when I was travelling through the country I 
stayed in the pleasant Tokyo International Youth Hostel without a card.  I 
also ventured to the Hiroshima YH (you know, waaaaaaaaay out there...) and 
did not need a card either.  Maybe it was because it is regularly 
frequented by gaijin, wasn't a busy time, or I just got lucky.  

raku shitai, 

Andy
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Some Thoughts on s.c.j
Date: 24 Jan 1993 19:50:29 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

In article <1jul2gINN2hn@shelley.u.washington.edu> kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:
>In article 22050, larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
>writes:
>
>>I *TOO* don't like having to wade through messages on subjects I 
>>don't like (whether they be Yaohan or sumo), but I'd appriciate it if 
>>people don't act like jerks and post stuff like NUKE ALL THE YAOHANS 
>>posts.  I couldn't care LESS about sumo,but realize that there are 
>>probably those out there who do, so I leave it be, and just hit the 
>><n> key at the <More?> prompt, instead of crowding the 
>>already-crowded message base with MORE messages demeaning this.
>
>This very verrrrrrry not correct!!!  Bullshit!  God (In The Bible If You
>"Read") saids the holy word: FUCK "N" Key.  Before time of GOdazilla,
>JIm Morrison : When the music's over turn out the lights.  Now HIstory
>of Human man reveals Hitler was right!!!!  Say this, say that.  Don't
>say this, don't say that.  Hit this key, hit that kaey.  You right, I
>wrong.  You wrong, I right.  Fuuuuucccckkkkkk Motorola!!!  The worm of
>your "existence: has turned".  DO not say this just because you are
>ignerint fucker.  REad the Bible!!  Tired of your racist talk.
>
>

What we are observing is an illicit dumping on the scj market of imitation
brands to crowd out genuine brands....Consequently, retaliatory tariffs are
in order for robohen posts, as well as voluntary quotas for rikiya-flamers.
Don't be stoooooopid.  Wait.  I am disapinted in you Mr. Giasante!  That is
too much like the kind of thing Ch.-cu greasy-skinned people would do.
COPS LIVE COPS LIVE.  Hahaha, robohen, Dwight Asano, & Rikiya Joe are all
the creations of an artificial-intelligence project.  Now, we exterminate
fiery-tempered netters by aggravating them to death.  This will cause a 
shortage of communication between Japan and America, then Japan will lead the
first strike when Mt. Fuji slides over a few meters to open up the underground
Hinoshita silos.  Then nanotech cyborgs by Sam Beni will rain all over US
and terminate Henry Robertson.  James Liu, you are the only hope left for
US retaliatory strike.
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Honda vs Ford
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:22:41 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan27.152333.29355@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com 
(Michael Goldman ) writes:

>	THe US _and_ CA pollution laws are written in absolutes.  The

If so, then I'm somewhat confused.  I understand that in the future,
the standards will be tightened up, but, currently, the smog certificate
does not mention any absolutes...only percentages.

>	CA tests that residents go through every few years are bogus
>	and will be changed (tightened up in a few years.)  The standards

Yes. In a few years, but currently the standards are relative and
from getting 3 cars smogged in the family in recent times, well,
I'd say, there was nothing absolute about any of the standards.

>	are expressed in grams of pollutant per mile.  The CA stds are
>	set as a %-age of the US stds but are still expressed in gms/mile.
>	Cars sold in Ca. still have to meet the US stds, but since the
>	CA stds are tougher, it doesn't matter.

Again, I'm confused on the time or method of implementation.  In terms
of grams per mile of pollutants, this must be a helluva lot.  The old
86 5.0 GT Mustang ain't exactly an 'economy' car.  O-60 in around 7
seconds with no special effort, and really lousy mileage, around 14
miles per gallon at 90 mph on those slow, lazy drives from the Bay Area
up north to Chico.  Are you saying, those are the regulations now?

Jaa, James
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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: US-Japan Online Computer Service?
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:17:57 GMT

f54713@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Ellis Yan-Chee Lau) writes:

>In article <1993Jan18.191705.5098@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com> ron@rss.dl.nec.com (Ron Guest) writes:

> >GEnie is accessible via PC-VAN in Japan.  I think Compuserve
> >is accessible via NIFTY Servie in Japan.

>There are many commercial networks in Japan such as Nifty-Serve, PC-VAN,
>ASCII-net etc. Nifty-Serve links with CompuServe while PC-VAN with GEnie.

I would hardly call 3 "many". As far as I know that's all the large
commercial hosts or conferencing systems with international links
(please correct me if I'm wrong). 

>If you access GEnie via PC-VAN, it costs you 90yen per minute including
>the service charges of GEnie and international phone line. It is too
>expensive to me so I have never tried it.

You can also use TYMPAS (TYMNET Personal Account System) for 70
yen/minute to link to something like 30 systems in the U.S. and 40
in U.K. (my information is a bit old, there may be more). Not any
cheaper as the 70 yen is only for the link and you still have to pay
for the use of the system you connect to, but there are a lot more
possibilities.

Since night telco rates to the U.S. are 220 yen the 1st minute and
110 yen/thereafter if you are transferring large amounts of data
it's cheaper to go direct as you get a full-speed line (TYMPAS is
only 2400 BPS). 

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087




Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: oshiro@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Woodrow S Oshiro)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 19:21:01 GMT

In article <RHB.93Jan23140321@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
[stuff deleted]
> Perhaps I did not make that clear enough, in
>which case I apologize, but the persecution does exist and for the
>reasons we have all become too familiar: Japan is racist and
>xenophobic to a large degree, and fearful of outsiders even if they be
>racially and politically identical with themselves.

No kidding?!!!   But Robert, that was not all there was to your original
claim.  Let's take a look at it again.

>   >But let's compare
               ^^^^^^^
>   >treatment here, just for the hell of it, with that of anomalous people
>   >in Japan. Owada-san, the future empress, herself was victimized in
>   >this way, probably much more cruelly and relentlessly than any
			^^^^^^^^^
>   >football player ever would have done it, merely because she had been
>   >abroad.

So, my question is:  How do you know that Japanese "Neanderthals" are worse
than American "Neanderthals"?
 
-- 

						Woody Oshiro
						oshiro@en.ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: In (partial) defense of Rikiya Asano
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:00:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.013952.8571@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

   In all fairness (on my part),
   I must say that Rikiya Asano's postings,
   absurd and vulgar as they are (though some have good points,
   and are improving in a number of aspects),
   have started a number of good threads, whether intentionally or not.

   In this sense, I'd say that he's productive, even contributing
   to the newsgroup.
   This marks a critical difference with his dedicated bashers,
   who only prove themselves to be none the better than he is.

   No kidding.


I think we are seeing here an example of blaming the victim. Yes, it's
mainly pointless to "bash" Asano, but his absurdity and vulgarity call
for it sometimes. I further don't see that he is "productive, even
contributing to the newsgroup" except in the sense that his
inflammatory remarks invite a lot of comment. Mostly he leeches onto a
currently existing thread and, like the parasite that he is, turns it
foul, ultimately killing it. I am not a "dedicated basher"; I respond
only when attacked (and not always then). But I reserve the right to
do so. Mainly I kill all threads I see that he's involved in, although
I do wander into them unawares sometimes. And I do think there is a
difference between Asano and just about anybody else in this
newsgroup. The difference is, most people, when pressed, are capable
of a rational response. I think if he was a Caucasian spouting racist
invective against Nihonjin, you would be screaming for his head too.

Honto desu.

RB



-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Chuukakuha
Date: 28 Jan 1993 06:27:12 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

In article <1k7riiINNbhv@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> [...] The Chu'kakuha! Now this will probably
>>turn a lot of Japanese off but I like the Chu'kakuha. I think that
>>something can be done with this group if it's organization was well
>>structured and more mature. [...]
>
>What exactly is chuukakuha and what are thier goals?
>Are they related to sekigun (red army)?

I believe Chuukaku-ha (middle cell-faction), sekigun (red army), and
kakumaru (revolutionary Marxists) are all fragments of the ex-
Zengakuren (Pan-students union), famous for their undoukai-like demos
wearing red helmets against white-helmeted riot police on Narita's runway
& major train stations, with the Bamboo spears chanting "shupurehikooru"
(remember that?) and as late as 1978 took over Narita's control tower....
it's funny how ex-leftist beat cafes on Ginza have transformed into 
Salarymen bars, with fading portraits & signatures still on the wall for
that generation to reminisce about the good old days....I was shown to such
a bar....not a few radicals were deported from Japan during that era, and
they've settled in US, South America, and other scattered areas around the
globe.....not to neglect Southeast Asia....and yet some other right-wing
teenage radical stabbed the chairman of the socialist party during a speech
& proceeded to kill himself later....I read that the yakuza/boatracing king,
the guy who contributes millions to ivy-league business schools from year
to year & has a lobbying committee in Stockholm to win himself the Nobel
Peace Prize, has the death mask of the radical on his desk....the guy
came here a few years ago having contributed to the Haas Business School,
so was given a black-tie top-secret luncheon....amazing what money can do.
Yes,m what the leftists need is money; they otta start up their own
enterprises, like the Moonies.  That will transform them into a respectable
political organization to be taken seriously.
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Loong list of Japanese BBSs
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:21:29 GMT
Organization: unaffiliated
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <RHB.93Jan28102712@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan28.071259.19082@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
>
>   In article <RHB.93Jan27105811@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
>   >Thanks for the list, but is this current? I ask because of all the
>   >300bps modem speeds listed. The "fast" modems are 1200 and only an
>   >occasional 2400 or 4800. I would have thought Japan would be current
>   >with v.32bis technology everywhere.
>
>   Guess again. When I told my 1200 bps client in Tokyo two months ago to
>   get with the times and at least get 2400 bps they asked me what I was
>   using. When I told them v.32bis (14.4 Kbps) they couldn't believe it.
>   There is *nowhere* that I know in Japan that can do 14.4 Kbps. There
>   are a handful of places that can do 9600. And I *stress* handful.
> 
>
>            Tad, I find this absolutely astounding. Perhaps the 300
>            bps modems are too much of an embarrassment to make the
>            "soudai gomi" pile? :-)

Don't get me wrong. These aren't necessarily ancient modems. I don't
think many of them would qualify as "soudai gomi". Current production
is geared toward 2400 bps. You wouldn't have to go back too far to
when a nice, sleek 1200 bps modem was a hot item. Trust me. When
Japanese manufacturers decide to target modem technology, they'll
catch up pretty fast.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan