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From: bphdarcy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sean J. Roc D'Arcy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Steinberger Owners - Question on Tuning Jaws
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I have a question for anyone owning an XL series Steinberger.  I have been 
having a problem with my bass jaw (Stein's name for the part of the 
bridge tuning mechanism that holds the string).

Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the little rectanglular metal with a 
keyhole slot in it on their bass?  Look like this and is what the string 
anchors in to.


               _____________________
               |                   | 
               |                   | 
               |              (  )= 
               |                   | 
               |                   | 
               ---------------------

Or is yours different?  I got two from Steinberger to replace one that 
stripped and they look like they should be for the L series guitars not my 
bass.  Thanks for any help.

SJRD
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:13:03 GMT


*****  SIMPLE SURVEY -- PLEASE READ *****

I have seen much talk about Sinead on the net lately, 
and was wondering what the general opinion of Sinead
was.  Please take the 20 seconds it takes to reply to
this question and answer it.  (A simple Y or N will do).
Please use your newsreader's reply option or regular
email to submit votes -- do not post your answer.

Question:
Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
Sinead O'Connor?

If you wish to send detailed replies as to why or why not,
please do, but they are not required.  Thanks in advance!

Jason Boardman
boarjas@elof.iit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: dooley@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Lois-Anna Dooley)
Subject: Re: HELP!! I want a new bridge!
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:21:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.143559.21503@calvin.edu> (Dave) writes:
>
>P.S. I'm getting married this spring. So I was also wondering if there are
>any married bassists out there who can tell me how they keep their marriage
>together without driving their spouses crazy with their bass. 

Here's how my husband copes with my bass playing:  He got six penny whistles
and a set of Irish bagpipes.

Lois-Anna
From: frink-andrew@yale.edu (Andrew Frink)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: OWNERLIST
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:35:26 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
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                The OWNERLIST compiled by Andrew Frink
			version 1 12/15/92
 		email @ friandj@minerva.cis.yale.edu

This list is in conjunction with BASSLIST version 2.  The bassnumbers
here correspond to the numbers on that list.

Number  Email				Name
----------------------------------------------------------
1	aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu		Steven White
2	"					"
3	jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu			Jeff Ramin
4	tenny@euclid.uoragon.edu		Nathan Tanny
5	"					"
6	gw214790@longs.lance.colostate.edu	Galen Watts
7	battle@cs.rpi.edu			{ng}
8	shawn@monitor.com			Shawn Broderick
9	"					"
10	"					"
11	mjkobb@media-lab.mit.edu		Michael Kobb
12	"					"
13	"					"
14	"					"
15	"					"
16	harden@acsu.buffalo.edu			Alex Harden
17	birdman@casbah.acns.nwv.edu		Christopher Kush
18	FALAFEL@vcsvax.vcs.umass.edu		Rob
19	rost@tecrus.enet.dec.com		Brian Rost
20	"					"
21	"					"
22	"					"
23	"					"
24	wortjody@u.cc.utah.edu			Jody Wort
25	"					"
26	Kevins@eng.aubura.edu			Kevin Sullivan
27	"					"
28	rick@taligent.com			Rick Auricchio
29	"					"
30	"					"
31	eijkhout@cs.utk.edu			Victor
32	mori@adcalc.fnal.gov			Deuton Morris
33	jadwat@minerva.cis.yale.du		Omar Jadwat
34	"					"
35	kimple@vax.cns.muskingum.edu		John Kimple
36	"					"
37	"					"
38	jflee@hubcap.clemson.edu		Finley Lee
39	jost@itd.nrl.navy.mil			Patrick Jost
40	"					"
41	?
42 	barsz@bar.ca				Peter Barszczewski
43	moskowit@panix.com			Len Moskowitz
44	"					"
45	"					"
46	"					"
47	"					"
48	"					"
49	"					"
50	garyr@hpspdla.spd.hp.com		Gary Rosen
51	"					"
52	"					"	
53	"					"
54	andy@research.caucy.oz.au		Andy Neuman
55	LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu			Larry Rossi
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
From: tmalley@trilobite.sauria (Thomas J. V. Malley)
Subject: Re: "Farting", "fat" sound - how to get it?
Organization: /cdrs2/u/tmalley/.organization
	<1992Dec11.144141.149@panix.com>
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:55:51


I used to have an Ampeg B-25 that I played with an old Hagstrom Bass.
If I turned the amp up, I couldn't escape a sound similar to what you
were describing - tubaesque.  Unfortunately, it wasn't what I was
after, and it gave me fits.  I thought it was the cabinet/speakers (2
12 or 15" Sunn guitar speakers) or something.  Or maybe it was all in
combination.  Now I'm more inclined to think it was the Ampeg (tube)
amp.

Tom Malley - tmalley@dsd.es.com
--
-- 
tmalley@dsd.es.com
"There's a big difference between *thinking* about how stupid it would be to go
ahead and do something frivolous and actually doing it."
--
From: barsz@bnr.ca (Peter Barszczewski)
Subject: More SWR SM-400 Amp Questions
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:01:58

One thing I have noticed with my SWR SM-400 head is that the master volume
has an effect on the effect-loop send.  It is especially noticable when
trying to play at low (practice) volumes.  Shouldn't effect send only be
controlled by the pre-amp gain?  Has anyone else noticed this.

Also, are their any mods available to add a line out level control which is
independant of the master volume.  When I play live, I would like to have
my line out (not direct out) going to the board and my volume controlled
independantly.  I generally like to have control of the on-stage volume, as
I can tell better than the soundman when I am too loud or quite.

Finally, has SWR ever produced a decent manual for the SM-400.  Mine is a
shitty little red duo-tang like thing which is totally useless.  As a bare
minimum a block diagram of the inards and a list of possible mods would be
nice.  SWR mentions you can do mods, but doesn't tell you what.
--
Peter A. Barszczewski         |           .   .   .   .   .   .   .
(barsz@bnr.ca)                |        :    :    :    :    :    :    :
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From: cei@navier.math.uh.edu (Chuck Ivy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Robin Basses
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:24:12 GMT
Organization: UH Dept of Math
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: navier.math.uh.edu

Has anyone tried Robin basses? I bumped into the president/founder today and
asked him if he had ever built any 8-strings. He expressed an interest in
getting a few in production soon, but said that things were kind of on the
back-burner. I'm going to bring him my Kramer XL-8 for him to take notes from
in the next few weeks. I'll let you know how things go...
--
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/:|                    /  /  : =| Chapman Stick		Chuck Ivy
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From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Tube Bias Problems with SWR amps??
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:08:11 GMT
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.


A month ago, my SWR's sound deteriorated rapidly. Replacing the tube
solved the problem.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
From: barsz@bnr.ca (Peter Barszczewski)
Subject: Re: More SWR SM-400 Amp Questions
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
	<BARSZ.92Dec17161244@bmtlh168.bnr.ca>
	<WARSAW.92Dec18122902@anthem.nlm.nih.gov>
Distribution: rec
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:08:42

warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:

   >>>>> "Peter" == Peter Barszczewski <barsz@bnr.ca> writes:

       me>    First, why use the line out instead of the direct out?

       Peter> Well, I run my effects through the effect loop .. I thought
       Peter> that was what it was for.

>   Its been a long time since I scanned my manual, and since I don't use
>   effects I haven't futz with this stuff really, so you could be right.
>   Just to be sure, we're talking about the XLR on the back which can be
>   set to line or direct via that tiny switch right?

Yes.  In the "direct" position, the input signal goes through the *initial*
pre-amp gain: low or high gain only depending upon which channel you plug
into. It is not affected by the pre-amp gain control knob.  In the line-out
position you get the output of the pre-amp section with the signal level
controlled by master volume.  Word of warning:  I was nearly shot by a
sound-person for putting my active pick-ups into the high gain and then
using the direct out to the board.  The level coming from the direct out
was about 24 dBu .... he was worried I was going to fry his board.

I've been told the SWR direct box capabilities are very good, better than
most direct boxes on the market.  It is probably advisable to use it than a
no-name general purpose direct box which can't handle low frequencies
properly.

>   My general approach is to use the amp EQ only for dealing with the
>   peculiarities of the club's acoustics.  I'm basically happy with the
>   natural tone of my bass so about the only amp EQ tweeking I need to do
>   is to compensate for a boomy room (cut some lows) or an absorptive
>   room (boost some highs and/or mids).  I do routinely boost a bit of
>   the low-mid frequencies, but I don't really change EQ much between
>   songs.  There are a few cases where I need to do that, for effect, and
>   my on-bass controls give me all the expression I need.

Here is where I should tone down a bit.  I have a midi multi-effect which I
love to play with.  I tend to change my "sound" for every song ... chorus
here, flanger there, different eq, a bit o reverb, delay, etc.  I probably
should go easy for the sake of the live mix.  Recording is a different
kettle of fish.  Here you can adjust the mix for every song, but unless you
have your own sound-person, then it just can't be done live.  I thought
technology was supposed to help us and make us more creative ....

Regards,
--
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From: grego@bit.UUCP (Greg Sanguinetti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Sabine Rack-Tuner ?????
Keywords: Sabine tuner
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:58:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: bit.528
Reply-To: grego@bit.UUCP (Grego Sanguinetti)
Organization: BIT  Portland, OR

In article <Bz3nnn.GLt@news.udel.edu> webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill) writes:
>	I have been spending a lot of money lately to move all of my gear
>to rackmount.  Included in this I would like buy a rackmount tuner.
>In the mail order catalogs I see two models for rackmount, the Korg Pro-rack
>tuner and the Sabine 1600-rack tuner.
...
>really worth it?  Does anyone have any comments about either?  Roadworthyness?
>Any comments appreciated.

I have the Sabine 1600 as well as another older "Banana" meter tuner. I like
the Sabine alot and find that it will even track my acoustic bass, which many
tuners do very poory. It does take a while to get the hang of using the LED's
instead of a meter. I didn't think I would like it at first. Now I like it
better than the meter. You also have to memorize the LED's so that you can
check it in the dark. I have had no reliability problems with it. I don't
run it in-line. I use a buffered splitter to generate a second signal and
run that into the tuner.

Bob Davis noted that he thought the "in tune" light was a little too
forgiving. I suspect that his pitch is better than mine. When I get a chance
I will test it with my signal generator and frequency counter
(yeah sure I will, in my copious spare time B^).

-grego
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From: frink-andrew@yale.edu (Andrew Frink)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: one more question about the basslist
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:37:56 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
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More and more people keep responding to my basslist question and it
has grown from just a simple question into a reference work.  This is
not a bad thing.  I am curious though if adding names to the list
would be helpful.  I am willing to do this, but I want to hear some
info on this.

drew
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,alt.guitar.bass
From: cei@navier.math.uh.edu (Chuck Ivy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass,rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Hartke drivers
Date: 13 Dec 1992 15:22:46 GMT
Organization: UH Dept of Math
NNTP-Posting-Host: navier.math.uh.edu
Keywords: aluminum cones

I have an old pair of Aluminum Cone theatre speakers made by a company called
Bozak. One of the mid-ranges is ripped to shreds. I'm considering writing
Hartke to find out if they have anything that might match it. The speaker's
not necessarily worth it (I only spent $20 on the pair, used from my school)
but you can never have too many speakers...
--
Hail Eris!
cei@casc.math.uh.edu
From: ibanez@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Fretless: Yamaha BB200F vs. Warwick :-)
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:37:57 -0400
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.bass
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <Dec.10.22.11.11.1992.8366@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) writes:
> 
> I haven't played many fretless basses, but I've grown tired of my
> Kramer aluminum-neck fretless and wanted to see if anyone has any
> opinions on the Yamaha BB200F.
> 
> I tried this bass out at a local store who sells it for $369. It has a
> rosewood neck and seems decent. I like the looks of my Kramer better
> (natural finish), but think the Yamaha may have a punchier sound and
> be easier to play -- for me, that is.

   Hmmmm $369? Are you in the U.S.? I find that price high since here
in Canada (Halifax anyway) they go fro a bit less than that in
Canadian funds. I'd look around - you should be able to get one for at least 
$300 U.S.
> 
> For comparison I tried a 4-string fretless Warwick which supposedly
> costs upward of $4000... It was a very attractive instrument! It took
> a little getting used to since it doesn't have fret markers. The feel
> was great, nice balance low-gear tuners, comfortable neck. It felt
> expensive. The sound was certainly better plus more versatile thanks
> to the active electronics and tone controls. I guess you'd say the
> sound was clearer than the Yamaha's. 

   Big surprise here. Warwicks are awesome, and alot of their sound comes
from the great woods and construction - the electronics themselves are
good but can be found on many other basses producing much less quality.

Somehow it seemed like I was
> hearing more of the instrument and less of the strings. This is
> exactly what I'm looking for.
> 
> On the other hand, I didn't think the Warwick's sound was SO different
> to get me to pay 10x the price of the Yamaha, even if I had that kind
> of money...

   These two basses are at opposite ends of the spectrum. If you only want to
spend a bit, get the Yamaha and maybee add an EMG pickup. This bass is pretty
nice, and for the money is your best fretless buy. If you have $2500 or so
(probably more) itching to be spent, get the Warwick.

> 
> I guess I'll have to go out and pester some salesmen into letting me
> play a few more instruments!
> 
> -Ralph
> -- 
> Ralph Gonzalez, Computer Science, Rutgers Univ., Camden, NJ
> Phone: (609) 757-6122; Internet: rgonzal@elbereth.rutgers.edu
> --
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From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (The Meathead)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: "Farting", "fat" sound - how to get it?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 23:50:12 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu
Keywords: Chris Squire is god

In article <1gdtf4INNc9h@mozz.unh.edu> tcw@kepler.unh.edu (The Meathead) writes:
>
>   I'm not sure how to get the sound you're talking about, but if I understand
>you right, a good example of this sound is Chris Squire's sound in the 2nd
>movement of Yes' Close to the Edge (damn, I can't remember the name of it).

  I just remembered-- it's called Total Mass Retain. And he uses the sound
again at the beginning of the 4th part, Seasons of Man.

-- 
|    Tim Webb               |    cold summer listening                      |
|    tcw@kepler.unh.edu     |      hot color melting the anger to stone     |
From: saiasr@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Saias Remi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: Help with string please
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:33:07 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1gnuobINN1ve@network.ucsd.edu> mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
>I've a cheap Steinberger copy bass: a Kramer Duke.  It's a fantastic bass
>for popping and slapping and carrying on planes (or all three).  It does
>look like an Uzi in it's case, so security sometimes gets a little sweaty.
>
>Two problems:
>#1 I need to find some strings for this thing.  I need them fast (gig
>this Friday!).  Last time I re-strung it, I had to look all over for
>strings that would work.  The ball-end of the string goes at the top,
>or nut-end of the guitar.  It encounters the nut a very small distance
>from the ball, and thus most strings (e.g Rotosounds, my Rickenbacker
>faves) with string wound about the first few centimeters of string at the
>ball-end won't work.  I forgot the brand I found last time (d-oh!).
>Anybody know what'll work?
>
>#2 The low E string is much more powerfully amplified than the rest of
>the strings.  I don't think it's an issue of resonance, as any note played
>on that string has a bit more "punch" than any note on any other string.
>The pickup is not set up at any strange angle either.  Is there a way to
>adjust the individual poles on a pickup?  Any other ideas on what's wrong?
>
>By the way, I played guitar in my last band (for 2 years), although I'm
>first, foremost, and most proud as a bassist.  For the last 6 months I've
>been recording in my garage, and this Friday will be my first bass-playing
>gig out in over 2 1/2 years!  Man, am I stoked!
>
>Thanks in advance, oh gurus of the Internet.
>Sacrifice in your name will be offered at the gig this Friday.
>No I will *not* smash up anything.
>
>Michael Breen
>singing and philosophizing
>(and ready to bassify!)

For your problem #2:
I think you should turn clockwise the screws on your pick-up
just under your E-string. It will push down the pick-up so, 
the sound from this string will be less loud. 
I did this on a very cheap bass and got a constant sound
from a string to another.
			   Remi.
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From: harling@miki.pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Subject: Re: Steinberger Owners - Question on Tuning Jaws
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:49:01 GMT

In article <BzBKJ0.6HB@acsu.buffalo.edu> bphdarcy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sean J. Roc D'Arcy) writes:
>
>I have a question for anyone owning an XL series Steinberger.  I have been 
>having a problem with my bass jaw (Stein's name for the part of the 
>bridge tuning mechanism that holds the string).
>
>Can anyone tell me the dimensions of the little rectanglular metal with a 
>keyhole slot in it on their bass?...
>
>Or is yours different?  I got two from Steinberger to replace one that 
>stripped and they look like they should be for the L series guitars not my 
>bass.  Thanks for any help.

Obviously, all the parts should be the same size as the ones already on
your bass.  I had to order a new jaw and knob assembly for my five-
string because the threads in the "jaw" became stripped.  After about a
month, I got one, but it was for the four-string model, and the knob
etc. was too big.  After sending it back and waiting for three more
months, I got fed up and traded it in for that Ibanez six string I
wrote about earlier.

Steinberger's interest in its customers apparently ends after the money
changes hands.  I can understand that they stand to make more profit
putting a five-string tuning knob into a five-string bass, rather than
selling it individually as a part, but with that kind of support, there
will soon be enough used Steinbergers on the market to run them out of
business.  I'd like to see it, anyway; Steinberger makes good
equipment, but no company with such lousy customer support deserves
patronage for very long.

I hate to think what will happen when something breaks on my GL-2 guitar!
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                   PictureTel Corp. (so there!)
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