HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk (Matthew Moore)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Anglepoise Lamps
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:41:40 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

>> 
>> Stop 'Sesame St' before it's too late. Make them watch 'Bagpuss' or 'The
>> Magic Roundabout' instead - good, solid entertainment, chockablock
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> with English accents.
>> 

>'The Magic Roundabout' is French...

The film is French, but the excellent narrator is English.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jrowney@arco.com
Subject: Re: "Green" Cards
Organization: ARCO Exp. and Prod. Tech.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:47:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.130335.16925@pts1.pts.mot.com>
alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com (ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331) writes:
>In article 9B8@srgenprp.sr.hp.com, patk@sr.hp.com (Patrick Kearney) writes:
>>*>Can anyone tell me why Green Cards are actually blue? Mine is. Does
>>*>the colour of these things have some significance? Are Green ones
>>*>reserved for Hispanics, Blue for Europeans etc.? 
>>*>
>	Stuff deleted..
>
>NO I don't think so, Mine (and another 2 guys I know who work here (all
British))
> is WHITE... Maybe you are in a secret group or something!! Or maybe all the
ones 
>out of Miami are white and so forth!!
>
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Mine is pink! Yuk!

John
From: jmb@ukc.ac.uk (J.M.Bremner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Giles
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:04:42 GMT
Reply-To: jmb@ukc.ac.uk (Mike Bremner)
Organization: Institute of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Kent

In article <1992Dec11.153559.1@pearl.tufts.edu> edente@pearl.tufts.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec5.164949.28327@julian.uwo.ca>, jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>> 
>> 	I lived in London from 1961-1965, and acquired a fondness
>> for a comic  strip  named 'Giles'. I used to  pick up the  annual
>> collections,  but  I  haven't seen  one  in the last couple of
>> years-  is it still being produced?
>> 
>> 							James Nicoll

Yes and no.  Last year's collection contained some "current" cartoons
dated up to about June; the rest of the collection was selected from
earlier work (going back to the forties).  No explanation was given.
This year's collection consists entirely of "old" material, explaining
that, due to a long stay in hospital, Giles has not produced any
cartoons in the past year.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: "Green" Cards
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:43:26 GMT

sp@osf.org (Simon Patience) writes:
| Just to put the fear of god into you chappies, the last time I went
| through US immigration (a couple of months ago in Boston) there was a big
| sign saying
| 
| 	"If your Resident Alien card looks like this" 
| 	(picture of a blue card)
| 	"The you should go to your local immigration office immediately
| 	 to get it changed to this"
| 	(picture of a natty pink card)
| 	"as the blue one will be made invalid" (or something like that)

Thanks a mill.  You just ruined my day.  The INS has changed its rules
yet again.

What this does is convert a for-life card into one valid for ten years.
This means they get a chance to re-inspect you every ten years.  It also
means every ten years we get a chance to drive to the INS building, be
told to go away and get new photographs and fingerprints, drive to the
INS building, wait 2 hours, hand them in, wait 3 months, be told the
photos aren't the right size, get them taken again, drive there again,
wait 2 hours, hand the photos in, wait 6 months, drive to the INS
building, get a form to apply for a form that we submit to find out that
the application has been thrown away so that they can keep up with the
workload, get more photos taken...

...per family member.  Great.  Happy Christmas, Simon.  Taxation without
representation is tyranny.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... ewig...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: An ENGLISH monarch??
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:59:36 GMT

In article <katherim.724629975@sfu.ca> katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) writes:
>I have a question.  I have been studying Scottish history for a while,
>and, in Canada at least, this necessarily entails studying a wee bit
>of English history.

Is Scottish history different in Canada than in Scotland?  I guess
so, expats are always telling different stories than the folks left
behind...

>
>My question is simple:  has there ever been an ENGLISH monarch?
>

I can't believe you asked such a primitive question.  Of course not.
The English are ALL GONE.  They packed up and left eons ago.  Even
my 5 year old daughter was able to figure this out, but then she's
lived there.  If you visit, you'll see for yourself.
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: "Green" Cards
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:21:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Just adding my two cents worth.  My family came over in 1956 to
the US and the cards were blue.  Could it have anything to do with
when they were issued?

--
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
Date: 12 Dec 1992 23:14:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <92347.0527432893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>
>Hm well, then the paper had the year wrong, did Charles II not divorce his wife

No.

-- 
____________________________________________________________________
Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:35:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Do we really need the monarchy?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british


In soc.culture.british, yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

>  Froeign Sovereign?  I BEG YOUR PARDON.  Since when did Canada's indigenous
>population were made up of white-people?  And on on whose model of government
>has Canada based itself on?  THE BRITISH !!  You seem to ignore the fact that
>Canada's government culture in BASED ON THE BRITISH parliament.  Canada was in
>fact the Loyalist answer to a Nation in North America!! You are forgetting what
>is historically and fundamental Canada.

	Dave, why are you shouting?

		arf - I care about this boy, I really do.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: Time to elect a monarch?
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:26:14 GMT

In article <Bz8rDz.9yu@dscomsa.desy.de>, hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:
|> the Greeks used to elect Kings too. They also had a tradition of throwing
|> them on a bonfire or throwing them over a clif or whatever after they had
|> served for a year. Perhaps there is merit in making Thatcher Queen after all.

Ah, but the lady's not for burning !

David.

p.s.

Isn't this all something to do with the belief that the king is 'god' incarnate.
(something 'our' royal family subscribed to) and that when he begins to show
signs of wear and tear should be bumped off in order to preserve the spirit of
god.  Someone up at Oxford earned a doctorate for speculating that this is why
William Rufus was killed.

In the case of our monarchy we'll have to top both the Queen and Charlie as he's
going a bit thin on top, can't have a bald god-king, can we ?

David.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:19:15 GMT

ewadams@netcom.com (Ernest Adams) writes:
: Peter Scott writes:
: 
: >
: >But just how widespread is antidisestablishmentarianism there
: >these days?
: >
: >(Couldn't resist)
: 
: The whole royal divorce question is certainly going to lead to a lot more
: floccinaucinihilipilification with respect to the monarchy.
: 
	ANd of course will lead to practical problems, like where they are
both to live. He can't bunk down (as AP/UPI put it so elegantly yesterday)
with Grandma forever. Since he IS Prince of Wales perhaps a rural retreat
in that Principality would be the ticket. Say, in (wait for it) :

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

Richard Pennell History NUS

P.S. Congrats to Peter Scott for starting  all this.

 :  :
From: mossop@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Antony Mossop)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Lamont's wine and PRIVATE EYE
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:06:33 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <BzD3pp.5r9@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>
>  So we now get the "Affair of Gummer's Pond" the umpteenth "scandal"
>................................


Expand please (anyone remember him on Panorama a few years back blindly
denying any links his party had with the far right, I was distinctly
unimpressed with the man's debating style and have watched his upward
career in complete disbelief).


Tony Mossop, geophysics, Stanford
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
From: walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,)
Subject: Re: The dates 1603, 1688, and 1707.
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:24:15 GMT

From article <1gj3jtINN712@network.ucsd.edu>, by fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister):
> In article <1992Dec14.161156.27972@news.clarkson.edu> walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,) writes:
>>From article <1gdrn0INNnu9@network.ucsd.edu>, by fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister):
>>> 
>>> It is rather hard to believe that the Stuarts ceased being kings of
>>> Scotland when they became Kings of England.
>>> 
>>But they were not kings of England, they were kings of the UK (United
>>Kingdom) when the Union of the Crowns Took place in 1603.
>>
>>														GW
>>
> 
> A glance at the epistle dedicatory to the Authorised Version would
> suggest otherwise. The term 'United Kingdom' did not come into use
> until the Act of Union of 1802.
> 
> -- 
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;                      
> She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!
> --------------------------------------------------------------------

OK, I agree. However, my point was that a single monarch "ruled" a united
kingdom, and was both the king of england and scotland.

														GW

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sdr57@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: SECRET PURPOSE OF FALKLANDS WAR
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:57:16 GMT

In article <BzGEzC.InC@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
>mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>
>
>
>>SECRET PURPOSE OF FALKLANDS WAR
>
>>Dr. Beter AUDIO LETTER #74 of 80
>
>[Plot of Plan 9 From Outer Space deleted]
>
>This Dr. Beter is quite mad.
>Floating Cosmospheres?? Klingon type cloaking devices? Secret bases on the
>moon with particle beam guns???
>
>Dave
>
>--


My God!!!! He knows EVERYTHING!!!

The only thing to do is get in our saucers and flee,
for we have been FOUND OUT!
From: EY28@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Why 2 types of new 10p?
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:22:36 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

Has anyone else noticed that there are two types of new 10p coin rather than
just the one?

Am I seeing things or are there two type of milling on these coins?

Still not convinced? Grab say a dozen new 10p coins. Now try and balance
each one on its edge on a flat table. Some will balance some will not.

Now look at the edges of the coins. There are two types: a round edged 10p
which also has the effect of making the coin look thinner     and
there are 10p coins with a square edge. Guess which  type is easy to stand
on its edge boys and girls?

  Nearly won a pint in the pub last night with this one.

Now can someone tell me why the Royal Mint has two millings on this new coin?

Andy Calder                                            ey28@ibm.liv.ac.uk
Radiation Damage Group                                 Tel:  051-794-5364
Dept. Materials Science & Engineering                  Fax:  051-794-4675
University of Liverpool.         FUTURE E-MAIL ->  afcalder@uxb.liv.ac.uk
From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Charles & Di split?
Date: 10 Dec 92 22:54:18 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
: 
: Princess Diana is the daughter of the Earl Spencer.  The
: Spencer family is at least if not older than the present
: royal family. 


	And so is mine and so is yours and so is any man's or woman's
 -  we all go back to Lucy or her relatives.


Richard Pennell, History, NUS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com (ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331)
Subject: Green Card colour survey!!
Reply-To: alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com
Organization: Paging and Wireless Data Group
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:10:55 GMT


In article 1gokm4INNqr1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
>*>
>*>Just adding my two cents worth.  My family came over in 1956 to
>*>the US and the cards were blue.  Could it have anything to do with
>*>when they were issued?

OK SO LET'S DO A SURVEY!!

1984 IN MIAMI -ISSUED 'CARDS' WERE WHITE 

NEXT.........







Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: trk@palm15.cray.com (Tim Kirby)
Subject: Re: sesame st./Magic roundabout
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:36:46 CST

chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu wrote:
: In article <1992Dec15.160806.9130@maths.tcd.ie>, pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney) writes:
: > dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
: > Stop 'Sesame St' before it's too late. Make them watch 'Bagpuss' or 'The
: > Magic Roundabout' instead ...
: 
: Boooiiinnnnngggggg, time for bed (said Zebedee).

Do you think Florence is a Virgin ?

Drops 'em for certain ...

(Whenever I need something to laugh at, Jasper and his MR skit is a
 guaranteed grin ... ;-)

--
Tim Kirby --------- Cray Research Inc., Eagan, MN, USA ----------- trk@cray.com
Disclaimer: I disclaim, therefore I am. Cray Research is not responsible for me,
my views or anything I say ............... They do, however, pay my mortgage ;-)
When all else fails, Immortality may always be assured by spectacular error(JKG)
From: mmh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Do we really need the monarchy?
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:19:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <40460008@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM> erics@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Eric P. Solari) writes:
>something that seems to have gone unmentioned in this string is the
>amount of tourist $'s (don't have a lb. key, sorry) , that the royal
>family brings in each year.  IMHO, people visit Windsor, The Tower,
>Westminster, etc. in large part because the monarchy is intact.  my
>guess is that it would not be as interesting to visit some of these
>places if the monarchy abandoned -- at least for us americans who seem
>to be more fascinated with the royal family than the british.

It would really be pathetic if we British kept the monarchy
going just for tourist income, just like all those other third
world tribes who have long lost interest in and forgotten the
meaning of their rituals, but when they smell $s put on the old
grass skirts and dance around in a desultory sort of way
because that's what they're expected to do.

Matthew Huntbach
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Robertson's Golly Badges.
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:49:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Dec13.072456.409@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.053704.9334@nuscc.nus.sg> hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:
>>
>>COLLINS CONCISE (huh!) DICTIONARY PLUS (london & Glasgow: Collins, 1989) p530
>>
>>Golliwog: n. a soft doll with a black face usuallyy made from cloth or rags	
>>
>>Why's that surprising (even mildly)??	
>>
>
>Should have specified which dictionary, shouldn't I?  Here's the text
>from mine, the difference is interesting:
>
>	golliwog or golliwogg n. [After Golliwog, a character in books
>	by Bertha Upton (d. 1912)] 1. A grotesque black male doll.
>	2. A grotesque person.
>
Well here we are divided by a common language again. When I was a small boy, I
had a collection of cloth dolls of which my Golly was the biggest and best. It
was in no way grotesque. Good - this explains a lot. I could never understand
what Americans had against Gollies. It almost seemed hypocitical, given the
existance in any toyshop here of dolls with black faces. I can only assume that
the original Golliwog character was a figure of fun, laughed at or taunted
simply because he was black. Can you tell us more, Sue?

Tin.
From: ccsdhd@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Dennis Davis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Robertson's Golly Badges.
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:24:33 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

In the referenced article, dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:

[Discussion of Robertson's Golly Badges deleted.]

>Very nice.  Will you now tell us why it was also cross-posted to soc.bi?
>Is there some connection with cross-racial cross-dressing, or were your
>wires just crossed?

I added soc.culture.british to the Newsgroups line of the article
to which I was replying.  I'm not responsible for what was
originally there.  Those proud owners of deerstalker hats may wish
to emulate their hero and role model, Sherlock Holmes, and
investigate this matter further.

I'll accept that the subject matter may not be of general interest
to the disparate Newsgroups mentioned on the Newsgroup line of my
article.  However removing Newsgroups without giving any indication
of doing so is discourteous to the readers of those Newsgroups.
Some might have a slight flicker of interest in the subject
material.

I regard it as good netiquette to indicate the rare occasions that
discussions do move across Newsgroup boundaries.  This might not be
necessary if Newsreaders in general could track discussions across
Newsgroup boundaries.  However I don't know of any that can do so.
I'd maintain it is polite (even on Usenet) to indicate when you are
doing this.  Any terminally-glued humanoids will then know where to
go for more useless information on the subject.

The politeness of the contents of your article is, of course, a
matter of personal taste.  Season with sweetness and light, or fire
and brimstone, according to your individual requirements.

>(cross-posting removed by me)

There should be no need to do this.  Any halfway decent Newsreader
will submit followup articles to only those Newsgroups mentioned on
the Followup-To line if one is present.  If a Followup-To line
isn't present, the followup article gets posted to all the
Newsgroups on the Newsgroups line.  This is why I put in an
explicit Followup-To line.  I thought the discussion had probably
veered so far from being of interest to participants in the
original Newsgroups that it wasn't worth targeting any further
discussion there.

If your Newsreader doesn't understand or respect Followup-To lines,
it isn't obeying the tenets of Section 2.2.3 of RFC 1036.  If this
is the case, it's time for you to get a better Newsreader.
-- 
Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
D.H.Davis@bath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dwilkins@maths.tcd.ie (David Wilkins)
Subject: Re: Northern Ireland
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:07:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.091405.28795@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>In article <92345.1536392893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>Would it not be logical to have a county by county referendum in Ulster and
>>allow those counties that wish to join Ireland do so, this would reduce the
>>republican population considerably and would make Ulster much more
>>governable.
>>
>None of the six counties is overwhelmingly Catholic in
>population. A while back someone posted a population of all the
>districts (which are smaller than counties) in NI, and none of
>them was more than 80% of one religious background or the
>other.
>
>At the time of partition all the 6 counties that form NI had
>Protestant majorities, though two of them only just so and the
>balance has since switched, but not overwhelmingly.

According to the 1911 census, the counties of Fermanagh and
Tyrone did have `slim' Catholic majorities.  Something like
55% to 45%.  (I could post the exact figures again.)
The Protestant population of Fermanagh, if I remember correctly,
is concentrated in Enniskillen and in a wedge extending
north and east of that town and lying to the north of
Upper Lough Erne.

>                                                    The
>Catholic population of West Belfast, which elected the leader
>of Sinn Fein, Gerry Adams, as MP, is in the otherwise strongly
>Protestant Antrim.

Although `strongly Protestant' Antrim is (if I remember
correctly) around 80% Protestant, the population along
the Antrim coast from north of Larne to Ballycastle is
predominantly Catholic.  Moreover this very beautiful
part of the country seems to have escaped the troubles.
(I have vague memories of hearing on the news of the
shooting of a policeman in Ballycastle by the IRA some
years ago, and how unusual this was considered.)

Belfast straddles the counties of Antrim and Down, and
is administered as a county borough.

>
>Some border changes would be sensible, but it should not be
>thought that this would solve the problems.

In fact the distribution of Protestant and Catholic across
NI is of the nature of a patchwork quilt, so that `repartition'
proposals, though they have been floated occasionally, would
not solve the problem.

DRW

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: VNS: Mon 14-Dec-1992
Followup-To: soc.culture.british
Reply-To: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:06:18 GMT

evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans) writes:
>    Princess Anne was married on Saturday at a small private ceremony at a
>    church in Scotland.

Since remarriage after divorce isn't recognised by the C of E, and the C of
E is the Established Church, and it's a capital crime to share certain acts
of an intimate nature with the unmarried first daughter of the monarch...

Who'd be in Timmy's shoes right now?  Or his socks, as the case may be.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
Allberall und ewig blauen licht die Fernen!  Ewig... ewig... ewig...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british