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From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: HYPOCRISY of Prayer in Public Schools
Date: 4 Nov 92 23:33:20 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire



                       HYPOCRISY of Public School Prayer

               Bush, Reagan, and a LOT of SELF-RIGHTEOUS fundamentalist 
          "Christians" want to RE-IMPOSE prayer into the public 
          schools, as well as in certain government ceremonies, etc.. 

               But what did Jesus Christ HIMSELF say about people who 
          pray in public?  In Matthew 6:5 he called them HYPOCRITES!  
          
               He said in the next verse that people should pray 
          SILENTLY IN THEIR CLOSETS, in other words, IN PRIVATE.  (Or 
          if in public, they should do it IN THEIR HEADS, withOUT the 
          SHOWY bowed head and folded hands.) 

               Parents who want their kids to openly and verbally pray 
          in school can send them to PAROCHIAL schools, as well as to 
          Sunday school, withOUT forcing it on others. 



               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 


                                   Robert E. McElwaine
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From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Predictions after a Clinton victory
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:28:24 GMT

demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
|> 	I do expect the 96 campaign to start in 95.  You'll see lots of
|> Republicans jockying for position.  Kemp, Weld, Voinavich, Quayle
					     ^^^^
|> (unfortunately), Wilson, some others that will rise between now and then.

Don't count on it.  Bill Weld got himself a problem in Massachusetts on
Tuesday.  Until then he had a veto-proof Senate, but there was a reversal
in the Mass Republicans' 1990 good fortune, and he now has only 10 out of
the 14 needed (Chris Lane out -- yessssss!).

The state's Democrats will probably stop their impression of a deer caught
in headlights very soon.
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
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From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:32:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

You plan to kill the President and you broadcast it to the net?!

You had better be joking, friend. Else, you won't have a hope of success.

Either way, you've probably been put on the Secret Service's list of 
potential threats and allready have a file on you started by now. You
probably would be low priority so you don't have to worry about bugs and
survelliance, etc. Small comfort.



-- 
Patrick Chester            |----------------------------------------------------
wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu |"The earth is too fragile a basket in which to keep
Politically Incorrect      |  all your eggs." Robert A. Heinlein
Future Lunar Colonist      |"The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us
#^%$!! Militarist          |  are going to the stars." Anonymous
(Of the Sun Tzu mentality) |----------------------------------------------------
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From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:06:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.015155.9072@pony.Ingres.COM> garrett@Ingres.COM (It's not what you got, it's what you give) writes:
}Amen. I was beginning to think that I was the only person who saw such
}glaring similarities. This trade war thing is almost eerily similar.
}Does anyone but me feel that this "recession" is much worse than they have
}been telling us?

Yes.  It's funny, in the latest issue of "The Freeman," the publication of
the Foundation for Economic Education, its president, Hans Sennholz, argues
that we're in better shape than then because there's no tariff's on the
horizon.  If he only knew when he wrote it...

Here in California, it's a bloody depression by some measures, like
unemployment.


Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Voltaire
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: INFO - Trilateral Commission Members (Prodigy Repost)
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:51:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov8.035603.19209@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>What exactly is the Trilateral Commission??
>
>Both President Bush and President-elect Bill Clinton appear on the member
>list.

It's a Rockefeller-founded thinktank for policy issues.  All the scumbags
who have been our presidents in the last few years (with a couple
exceptions, I think) have been members.


Paul Southworth                    |           ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 |         Political Archives in /poli
Information Technology Division    |     Writable incoming directory on:
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor  |         redspread.css.itd.umich.edu 

  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 07 Nov 92 19:55 PST
Subject: Dorgan election brings great hope
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500433:000:1267
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Nov  7 19:55:00 1992


From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse>
Subject: Dorgan election brings great hope

/* Written  7:40 pm  Nov  7, 1992 by AFRICA-L@VTVM2.apc.org in igc:bitl.africa */
/* ---------- "Dorgan election brings great hope" ---------- */
Reply-To: "FORUM PAN-AFRICA (Peer Distribution List)"              <AFRICA-L@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse>
Subject:      Dorgan election brings great hope

Byron Dorgan has been elected Senator from North Dakota.

He was the representative who spoke so compellingly when North Dakota
had their Somalia week--he quoted extensively from Jeffrey Clark's
"Journey to Hell"--an impassioned statement about the need to get moving
to aid Somalia.

I'll try to locate addresses, etc. for him in North Dakota and Washington.
Messages of congratulation and support for his Somalia stance should
encourage him to pursue a vigorous course.

It's heartening, too, that a man who takes a strong stand about aiding
a country which is of no particular "stategic importance" can get
elected, at a time when the conventional wisdom is that Americans
won't tolerate foreign aid.

I think Americans won't tolerate wasteful projects, or oppressive military
aid--but I think the average American wants those Somalian children fed
as quickly as possible.

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: peter@kbs.citri.edu.au (Peter Wallis)
Subject: Re: Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent"
Organization: Collaborative Information Technology Research Institute
Date:  9 Nov 92 06:03:32 GMT

I've just seen it to. two comments:
1) the music; camera work etc is (I believe) part of a new aproach to
   documetary making. It is a jaunra thingy, and all apart of the process
   of making a documentary which will be seen by more people.

2) I'd heard Chomsky do the Massie(?) lectures. (The Govn't run radio stations
braudcast them across Australia about two years ago). They were stunning I
thought, and felt the film was a little light on theory. The film gave the
single example of `` a controlled experiment, thrown up by history'' in the
form of the Cambodia/East Timor example, but the Massie lectures gave a
series of examples which just left no doubt about media control.

My favorite scene was the tea cup. Ha Ha Ha.

Petr.
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From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.usa,alt.censorship
Subject: <None>
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:22:21 EST
Followup-To: alt.department.of.funny-walks.d
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

	Just wondering, is this free account through turing available to
anyone in the world, or just those of us who say "help, I'm being oppressed!"?
:)

Brett
===============================================================================
80s: 18 million new jobs, deficits down (%GNP), tax rates down, tax revenues up
GNP up, inflation down, unemployment down, interest rates down, cold war won
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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: ACTION ALERT! Wipe Out of Arab Land
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:22:16 GMT

lang@igc.apc.org (Andrew Lang) writes:

>=======================================================================
>ACTION ALERT!!		ACTION ALERT!!		ACTION ALERT!!
>=======================================================================
>		THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS TO WIPE OUT 
>		 THE ARAB VILLAGE OF RAMYA NEXT WEEK

>October 30, 1992. Differnet news agencies (RTw, UPI) have reported that Arab
>residents of the village of Ramya in the Galilee (Israel) have been given
>orders of eviction in order to build new residences for new Jewish
>immigrants. The Israeli government is planning to wipe out the village
>location and name from the map. The eviction is take place in the week of Nov
>1 - Nov 9, 1992.

>The residents of this village have lived there for hundreds of years. They
>are forced to leave their village and are being driven to homelessness.

I had the pleasure today of speaking with an Israeli Arab, a Knesset
member who is on a speaking tour in the US.  I showed him a copy of
the message I'm responding to.  He said that he had not heard of the
"eviction order" referred to, and thus declined my offer to post his
own response here, but did give me a little background which gave lie
to some of the statements above.

The residents of the village are Bedouins.  He did not know how long
they'd been at Ramya, guessing maybe 30-40 years, but the fact that
they are Bedouins makes it impossible for them to have been living
there "hundreds of years," since Bedouins are historically nomadic.

He also explained that the villagers had put up permanent housing
illegally, without having the required permits, and had been warned
that they would not be able to stay even before their homes were
built.  He also explained that Ramya is near the top of a mountain,
and their is another Bedouin village lower down on the same mountain,
inhabited in large part by relatives of the illegal residents of
Ramya, and the Israeli government had offered to expand that village
and compensate those forced to move with the same amount of land, of
equal value, in the other village.

He was not particularly happy about these people needing to leave what
they had made their homes, and did not know of any particular plans
for the site, but recognized that there are two sides to the story.
-- 
Alan H. Stein   -----  AJIN   -----  astein@israel.nysernet.org
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: Nicaragua 1984: The Electoral Process (II)
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:34:36 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <18946@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
>Harel writes:
>
>This doesn't look like a great point of reference from which a positive 
>valuation may be attributed.  What really matters is that international 
>obervers only accepted the last election as legitimate, and the previous as 
>rigged, in spite of Harel & company's claim to the contrary.

Maybe Salas can provide a reference to back this up.  Others of us
have provided plenty of documentation from international observers.
>
>>The sporadic disruptions that did occur 
>              ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What disruptions? I though all this was "unfounded".
>
>>took place mainly in the pre- or
>            ^^^^^^
>>early campaign period, and were not representative of the overall
>>character of the campaign.
>
>I get it, there were some disruptions when opposition parties were begining to 
>surface and once they werw adequately intimidated in by "turbas" they were left 
>alone.  Then if they need to be intimidated again, they were confronted by the 
>turbas anew and that explains when the accostment "mainly" happened in the 
>"early campaign period" and no "overall".  
>
>So much for Harel's cheap rhetoric and historical revisionism.
>
>Edelmiro

Newcomers to this subject might be confused, but plenty of evidence has 
been provided that showed the disruptions to be a fringe effect on the
election.  It seems that now that a few months have gone by and there
may be new readers, the same old falsehoods will be dragged out.  I am
not interested in reposting stuff for the zillionth time.  If anyone
would like for me to e-mail reports from America's Watch and 
Amnesty International to them, I will be happy to do so.
-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: WE ARE STILL HERE: THE 500 YEARS CELEBRATION
Date: 4 Nov 92 17:49:41 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <JMC.92Nov3135234@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>The Iroquois were very aggressive in conquering other tribes.
>--
>John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
>*
>He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

The consitution I have been referring to is called The Great Law of
the Peace because it came about as a peace treaty which ended most
of this fighting.  Although the
Iroquois were involved in wars afterwards, they were less frequent.
Also note that the other tribes "conquered" were brought into the
confederation governed by this constitution, so it isn't
conquering as we think of in WWII.  In addition, I never said they
were perfectly peaceful.  Many of the checks and balances in the
Great Law were to protect one tribes from domination by another.
-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: HYPOCRISY of Prayer in Public Schools
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:09:29 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire



                       HYPOCRISY of Public School Prayer

               Bush, Reagan, and a LOT of SELF-RIGHTEOUS fundamentalist 
          "Christians" want to RE-IMPOSE prayer into the public 
          schools, as well as in certain government ceremonies, etc.. 

               But what did Jesus Christ HIMSELF say about people who 
          pray in public?  In Matthew 6:5 he called them HYPOCRITES!  
          
               He said in the next verse that people should pray 
          SILENTLY IN THEIR CLOSETS, in other words, IN PRIVATE.  (Or 
          if in public, they should do it IN THEIR HEADS, withOUT the 
          SHOWY bowed head and folded hands.) 

               Parents who want their kids to openly and verbally pray 
          in school can send them to PAROCHIAL schools, as well as to 
          Sunday school, withOUT forcing it on others. 



               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
          IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 


                                   Robert E. McElwaine


Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
From: hagemann@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Brian Hagemann)
Subject: BP Boycott Announcement
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:57:33 GMT


                     TOXIC TUESDAY
              BP BOYCOTT NATIONAL DAY OF ACTION!
               (It's not just in Ohio anymore)

                   NOVEMBER 10, 1992

	By now, you've probably heard of the BP BOYCOTT, a part of Ohio's
corporate accountability campaign of British Petroleum.  In an attempt to
unite campus environmental groups aroung the state and in an effor to 
build a livale future, BP is targeted for its pollution record and practices.
SEACers have struggled to mobilize a powerful force of grassroots pressure
to demand that BP be more responsible both socially and ecologically.

                 WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT BP?...Take your pick...

1. BP produces 5 times more toxics per $1000 sale than the oil industry's
    average.
2. BP ranks as the largest polluter in Ohio, the 4th largest polluter in the
    United States, and the 3rd largest polluter of toxic waste on Earth.\
3. BP is leading the charge to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
    (ANWR) to oil drilling.
4. BP is the 2nd largest oil company fueling the Apartheid government in
    South Africa.
5. BP is the majority owner of Alyeska, the consortium of oil companies
    responsible for the botched cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.
6. BP fueled the Persian Gulf War.
7. BP refuses to comply with the MacBride principles, which assure fair
    hiring practices of Irish workers in Ireland.
8. In Brazil, BP has been criticized for destroying several thousand acres 
    of rainforest.  BP has also been charged with rainforest destruction
    in Southeast Asia.

The campaign has been growing and now several groups around the country
have shown interest in expanding the Boycott to a National scale.  In
response, Ohio SEAC is organizing Toxic Tuesday on November 10 as a Day of
Action on which grassroots environmental groups can join the Boycott with
actions such as station pickets.  All that is needed to participate in 
Toxic Tuesday is a free afternoon, some facts sheets, and the desire
to bring Corporate America's pollution habits into the spotlight.

SUGGESTED ACTIONS FOR TOXIC TUESDAY:

-BP station pickets 
-Teach-ins
-Guerrilla Theater (toxic suits)
-Go carless
-Have a local politician pledge to boycott BP
-Cut up a BP credit card.  Send the leftovers to BP and tell them what
  you think
-Invent your own toxic tuesday actions.


More information is available, including the history of the boycott, BP's
actions toward Ohio SEAC, and information packets and flyers.  If any of
you SEACers out there DO want more information, PLEASE CONTACT:

Ohio U. SEAC
57 1/2 N. Court St.
Athens, OH. 45701
614-59-GREEN


            THANKS and HAVE FUN!


-- 
---     Brian Hagemann -email:  hagemann@ucunix.san.uc.edu        ---
Steal this .sig | Never Stop Howling! -Earth First! | Love & be loved.
I'm just a Earth loving, drum playing, computer using, incense burning,
philosophical deadhead rainbow college kid with an internet account.
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From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
Subject: Re: ==> Why Vote?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:54:53 GMT

In article <92310.181404KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>"If you don't vote, don't gripe!" -- Joe Paterno
>                                        (Introducing President Bush at
>                                           his speech at PSU)

Too bad the one vote that does not count is for the presidential election.
All the rest do count at least.


Rich
From: weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: WE ARE STILL HERE: THE 500 YEARS CELEBRATION
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:06:43 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1992Nov4.160000.460@vexcel.com> dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.213310.7862@muddcs.claremont.edu> weverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (William M. Everett) writes:
>>
>>	Oh really? What kind of tools did these societies use? was it 
>>stainless steel?
>
>Was stainless steel being used in Europe back then?  More importantly,

	I wasn't saying it was. But if the indians were so 'advanced' shouldn't
they have been? They certainly should have been beyond stone tools.

>is technology the only measure of "advanced society"?  Our labels of
>"stone age", "bronze age" and so on emphasize the technology of the
>age but yet codes of law, existence of slavery, and the type of
>governmental structure is more important, IMO.  

	Greek societies had democracy and codes of laws AND were
beyond stone tools AND existed 4000 years before the European society in
question.
 
>
>		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)

William Everett
From: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
Newsgroups: alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: CBS News's Coverage of Palestine
Summary: "Mohammedanism" is just an English word.
Keywords: Mohammedanism
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:20:45 GMT
Reply-To: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
Organization: Handmade Designs, Salem, OR, USA

In article <1992Oct26.195636.23019@mont.cs.missouri.edu>
afadel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ayman Fadel) writes:
>No, saying "Mohammedanism" may not be racist, but it is at least 
>ignorance not tolerable from someone in a position of responsibility.

"Mohammedanism" is, I gather, not ymur preferred word for Islam, but it is an
English word and it means that and only that.

>The reason it is ignorant is that it implies that Muslims worship
>Muhammad [salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam-May God bless him and
>preserve him], just as Christians worship Christ.

It does not imply that.  "Smithanism" would normally mean the beliefs or
practices of the followers of Smith, and logically these would not
necessarily include the worship of Smith.  In fact, they normally wouldn't.
An example would be "Confucianism" (which, I'll admit, some ignorant
Christians might take to be the worship of Confucius, but that wouldn't be
so much because of the word, but because they wouldn't normally think of a
religion as not having a god).

I suspect (but do not know), that Moslem's objection to "Mohammedanism" is
out of a respect for Mohammed that non-Moslems do not share.

If anyone took offense at what I have written above, I did not intend it.
Please, lighten-up.
-- 
orstcs!opac!bug!stevef          I am the NRA              Steven R. Fordyce
uunet!sequent!ether!stevef         . . .  	        Deer are for Dinner
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