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From: rodney@cs.UAlberta.CA (Rodney Gitzel)
Subject: Canon FD 85 f1.8 Wanted
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:56:26 GMT

Hiya.

I'm looking to get my hands on an 85mm f1.8
 for manual-focus Canon.  Anyone want to sell one?

Rodney Gitzel
rodney@cs.ualberta.ca

p.s.  Yes, I know, go look in Shutterbug.  I'm doing that, too...
From: kbb0@harvey.gte.com (Kevin Burke)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Candidate for FAQ: Lens cleaning solution that really works?
Keywords: "Out! Damned spot..."
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:27:00 GMT
Distribution: w

While fogging the outer surfaces of my lenses to clean them I noticed
spots which do not appear otherwise. My breath (probably removed some of
the coating) and an old bottle of Kodak lens cleaning fluid did nothing
to remove them. I've had mixed success with the Kodak juice and wondered
if there is something I can find at my local camera store that *really*
works? Also, I noticed that Edmund Scientific has some solutions and
tissues for cleaning lenses. Has anyone tried them?

Thanks, Kevin
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From: jerryk@col.hp.com (Jerry Kinsley)
Subject: Re: Omega B22 enlarger info and filter info needed
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:55:08 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

The condensers;


     ..............................
      .                          .
	 .                    .
               .       .
               .       .
         .                    .
      .                          .
     ..............................

     Same size. I can't remember if there is a supplimentary third lense,
     if so It probably goes above the two larger ones, or you may have
     a second set of condensers or not.
     The larger would be for 2 1/4 square, the smaller for 35mm.
From: andyc@hplsla.hp.com (Andy Cassino)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Fie on Nye-kon
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:02:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.5360815
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey) writes:

| One of the engineers I was talking to 
| consistently talked to me of Nye-kon this, Nye-kon that, etc., and I asked
| him why he used this pronunciation when the Japanese pronunciation,
| according to the usually used katakana, would be "Nee-kon".  He said yes, 
| Nee-kon was the correct pronunciation, but some many foreigners used
| Nye-kon that they have just fallen into step.
| ----------

Hmmm, so is it "Fye on Nye-kon, I'm going to bye a Lye-ka," or is it, "Fee on
Nee-kon, I'm going to bee a Lee-ka"?

:-)

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From: rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Govindaraju Rao)
Subject: Re: Cropping slides
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:51:11 GMT


Stephen Page writes:
>Can anyone suggest a good way to crop slides for projection?

>I've seen masks in shops, but these look rather limited. The local photo
>shop suggests using masking tape, which sounds rather unpleasant!

    *** I SENT THIS OUT EARLIER, BUT IT SEEMS HAVE GONE AWOL ****
    **** IF YOU GET A DUPLICATE COPY OF THIS ...MY APOLOGIES **** 
  
    I use an adhesive backed metallic foil strip available in various 
    widths from stores catering to artists and architects. The 
    tapes are known as graphic tapes and are made by Letraset 
    among others. Come in silver (or chrome) and gold. Excellent
    sharp edges (unlike masking tape in which fibres have a 
    tendency to protrude from the edges) and block light very 
    effectively. Come in spools in a plastic casing. Using these
    takes a little practise. Try it first on old or reject slides.
  
G.S.K. Rao <rao@ccm.umanitoba.ca>,<rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca> 
-- 
G.S.K. Rao <rao@ccm.umanitoba.ca> <rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
 
GRAD STUDENT'S GRACE:  Please God !! If it MUST crash .... not when
                       *I* am using it !!
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Developing Illford film is Kodak developers
Date: 17 Oct 1992 04:19:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <93354@netnews.upenn.edu> liang@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Chuck Liang) writes:
>
>  I vaguely remember that Illford ID-11 is basically the same as Kodak
>D-76.  Is this true?

They're identical, according to my teacher.  He claims that he spent
a couple days in the library researching this, and found that there
are *11* different manufacturers making the exact same formula under
11 different names.

ID-11+ uses a slightly different formula, but you can still use the
same times and dillutions.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
To be loyal to rags, to shout for rags, to worship rags, to die for rags 
-- that is a loyalty of unreason, it is pure animal (Mark Twain).
From: mdfpph@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Fairchild)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Macbeth Color Chart
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:45:19 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: mdfpph@ultb

Call
1-800-MACBETH
The chart should cost around $30.

-Mark
From: liang@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Chuck Liang)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Why is Canon called Canon (was Re: How do you pronounce Leica? [Actually, Nikon])
Date: 12 Oct 92 04:35:02 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <PD.92Oct12011340@horus.sics.se> pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.173600.1835@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
>
>>In article <SCHOOLER.92Oct1174052@turing.apollo.hp.com> schooler@apollo.hp.com (Richard Schooler) writes:
>
>>Of course, the company was actually named after Kannon, the Bodhisattva
>>of Compassion (honest!), so perhaps they're just honoring the intentions
>>of its founder ;-).
>
>Actually it is "Kwanon", but the name changed to "Canon" the very same
>year it was formed (1935). (And it's not a misspelling by a Japanese
>not fluent in english; it's really supposed to be "Canon" - it has
>nothing to fo wilth guns).
>The first camera was the Kwanon with a KasyaPa 50mm/f3.5 lens, and the
>second model was the Canon Original with a Nikkor(!) 50mm/f4.5 lens.

  Almost.  Kwanon was the first cameras (rough Leica D copies) designed
by a company called Seiki-Kogaku, which formed in 1933.  In 1947 the
company name was changed to Canon.  It is my opinion that many
Japanese companies adopted Westernized names so their products
will sell better in Western countries.  

  Incidentally, here are the "real" or original names of some of the
Japanese camera companies:

  Nikon: Nippon Kogaku
  Minolta: Chiyoda Kogaku Seiko
  Olympus: Takachiko Kogaku
  
  In addition, Pentax cameras used to be Asahiflex cameras.  Only
Yashica seem to have kept its original name.


  On a related matter, does anybody know what exactly happened to 
VEB Pentacon?  Will there be a revival of Zeiss-Ikon, or will these
industries be aborbed by Yashica.




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From: mkuhn@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Martin W Kuhn)
Subject: Re: Need Info on Yashicamat 124G
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:29:26 GMT

In article <1b4bj7INN161@agate.berkeley.edu> mprats@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mario Prats) writes:
>I am considering buying a used Yashicamat 124G. Does anybody own one?
>How good is it?  I also saw an advertised Yaschicamat C, what is the
>difference between these two? 

Well, I used to have a Yashica-Mat 124.  It is a very nice TLR for the
money.  Good 4-element Yashinon taking lens.  The meter is rather well
designed too; much more convenient and more sensitive than most built-in
meters on TLR's.  However, I would recommend the earlier 124 model over
the 124G.  The later 124G has lots of plastic parts and a generally
"chintzy" feel (IMO).  The 124 should be much more durable.  (and it's
genererally cheaper due to it being and older model.)  As far as
picture-taking goes, any of the Yashica-Mats are good choices.
 
However, stay clear of the non-"Mat" Yashica TLRs-- (i.e. the Yashica A,
B, C, and D) as they have cheaper 3-element lenses of so-so quality.
(they also have knob wind and simpler shutters than the "Mat"s)
If you are just looking for a TLR for experimenting with and don't need
great quality, the non-"Mat"s will do OK, but for serious photography,
get a "Mat".  (Besides, the usual street prices for the Yashica D is not
much less than the Yashica-Mat or Yashica-Mat LM)

                            --Marty

                           
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From: patrice@cs.concordia.ca (Patrice Scattolin)
Subject: Minolta 28-70 MD zoom lens problem
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:25:29 GMT


I am having a problem with a Minolta 28-70MD f3.5 zoom lens. It used to 
go from macro 1:4 to 28mm continuously with no problem at all. Now
it won't do if it's focused at infinity.  The manual is not specific
enought to be able to tell what is it's normal behavior. Which is it?
Does go continuously or not. 

Thanks

-- 
Patrice Scattolin
					patrice@cs.concordia.ca
Concordia University			Montreal, Canada
"I am so far north that Santa lives two blocks from me"
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From: young@saturn.sdsu.edu (Alan Young)
Subject: Color Processor/Enlarger : FOR SALE
Originator: young@saturn.sdsu.edu
Keywords: Durst RCP 20/Beseler 67S
Organization: San Diego State University, Math Dept.
Distribution: sdnet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:41:27 GMT

I have the following photo developing equipment for sale:

1. Durst RCP 20
   Automatic Color Processor

2. Beseler 67S Dichro Colorhead

I don't know the exact value of these things (new) so that I can get
an idea of how much I can expect to get for them.
I will call around and get some numbers and will accept any reasonable
offers.

These were a gift from my brother when he was through experimenting with
photo developing. They work and work good, I can guarantee that. I've just
never used them because I don't have much time for a hobby right now.

Please send any offers or inquiries to:
young@saturn.sdsu.edu

Alan


-- 
> Alan B. Young		         |
> Computer Science Dept.         |
> San Diego State University     | 
> Internet: young@saturn.sdsu.edu|
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From: robert@sys.sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson)
Subject: Re: Former Nikon Owner Followup
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:51:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Data General AB, Akalla, Sweden
Keywords: Nikon

In article <3861@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse) writes:
> In article <92Oct06.154007.22265@acs.ucalgary.ca= panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:

> =Havig said that, I should note that in comparison tests it seems
> =that the new Nikon N90 autofocuses the new AF-I Nikkor 300mm 2.8
> =faster than the EOS-1 focuses its USM 300 2.8. (The pro shop
> =owner I talked with, who carries both full lines, claims this).
> 
> 	What's a N90??

It's the same as an F-90.

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From: ray@tsw.UUCP (Ray Izumi)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Outdated Kodachrome (re: Freezing Film)
Date: 10 Oct 92 16:42:06 GMT
Organization: The System Works, Redmond, WA

In article <SCHENG.92Oct9150902@bcarh886.bnr.ca> scheng@bcarh886.bnr.ca (Spencer Cheng) writes:
>
>I seem to recall that KR sold in the US do not normally include
>processing. The ones sold in Canada usually do include processing by
>Kodak Canada. (The last time I bought some, it did anyways). How much 
>is processing for KR south of the border there?
>
In a typical local lab, about $5-$6, or $3.50 with a mailer.
-- 
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"No amount of not finding something proves it doesn't exist."
From: andyc@hplsla.hp.com (Andy Cassino)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: night exposures for traffic
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:01:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.5360814
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:
| 
| This is VERY interesting. It implies a plateau in the RF characteristics of
| Fijichrome. I have never seen anything like this in practice or in the
| literature before. The nearest aproach would be astronomical plates that have
| an extreamly low RF at very long times.
| 

I don't believe I've heard of "RF" characteristics for film before. Is this
like the HD curve?

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    % Hewlett-Packard - Lake Stevens Instrument Division %
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From: az1@ukc.ac.uk (A.Zafar)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Spot metering
Date: 11 Oct 92 10:46:39 GMT
Reply-To: az1@ukc.ac.uk (A.Zafar)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <n0bc1t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>On <Oct 09 13:15> Mattias Bryntesson writes:
>
> MB> The first thing I looked for when the new Nikon came (as with every
> MB> new camera I see!) was if it had any spot metering capabilities. It
> MB> would be interesting to know what you netters think of it. Am I the
> MB> only one that think spot metering is the number one in metering?
>
>All I ever use is a spot meter.  I can't see using anything else.

	What I use is Matrix metering with 0.7 stops bracketing on my 601.
Even on slide film it gives me at least one picture like I want it. A bit
expensive on the roll though but then it gives you more of a chance to compose
the picture then spend a few seconds in front of an irritated model. But Spot
meter comes very handy when you use it with someone patient and have the
opportunity to use a grey card. You can get a reading from quite far away.

--
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			 - University of Kent 		\'o.O'
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From: scd@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steven.c.dittmann)
Subject: Sekonic L488 Digi-Spot Light Meter for sale
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:22:56 GMT
Keywords: like new

For Sale:

- Sekonic L-488 "Digi-Spot" Light Meter.
  Like new, in box, with carry case,
  blank warranty card, and instruction book.
  Technical specs available upon request.
  $300.

S. Dittmann
scd@ixhawk.att.com
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From: phintena@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Peter Hintenaus)
Subject: Material for BLACK overmats
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:44:27 GMT

is there any material of good archival qualities I can cut black overmats 
from? Usually I use Crescent Museumboard, bright white, for that  purpose
but this time I want a black overmat. Is there anything around with similiar
qualities in black?

Thanks,

Peter
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: film for 35mm portraiture?
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:16:17 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Followup-To: rec.photo
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

[elaboration of wedding story deleted]

For wedding assignments, I primarily used VPH - the ASA 400 version
of Vericolor.  On some portrait jobs, I may use the traditional VPS
- the ASA 160 version of Vericolor that most of us acutally rate at
ASA 100.  I shoot primarily medium format with a Brinica SQA.  For church
and reception hall time exposures under incandescent light, I occasionally
use VPL, which is Vericolor Professional Type L (tungsten balanced).
VPL doesn't not come in 35mm - wish it did.  Occasionally, I use 35
mm (Nikon 8008S - 20, 60, 180, 300, and 25-135 lenses).  I have used
VPH and the Ektapress films.  Sometimes I like the sensitivity and
impressionistic grainy-effect of the ASA 1600 version.  For banquets
and parties in 35mm, I like Ektapress 100 or 400.

I have also used regular Vericolor (ASA 100-rated) in 35mm for portraits
and weddings in the past.  It worked really well and I just bought some
more.  I plan to do more and more stuff in 35mm for weddings.  With
zooms, autfocus, and that wonderful SB24 flash, I think it would be
great for journalistic coverage, which is what I do.

In any case, I advocate Vericolor.  The laboratories that specialize
in wedding and portrait work get the best results from it, in my opinion.
I have tried a variety of other films, including Kodacolor, but to me,
Vericolor gives the best flesh tones.  It is also a lower contrast film
than the others, which is a dwirable feature for people pictures.

BTW, the original poster mentioned how he did better that a pro who
charged $600.  Personally, I charge $2,000 - $3,000 per wedding - and
I get it with no hassle.  It is my opinion that cheap wedding photography
is not always worth its price and is often a waste of money.  In other
words, the dedicated friend or relative can often beat the $600 or under
so-called "pro" in qulity and content.
   /|/| /||)|/  /~ /\| |\|)[~|)/~   |   Everyone's entitled to MY opinion.
  / | |/ ||\|\  \_|\/|_|/|)[_|\\_|  |      goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil
========Imagination is more important than knowledge. - Albert Einstein=======
From: vhs6r@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Victor Hsiao-yu Shao)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Question about FE-2
Keywords: Nikon, FE-2
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:39:47 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

I recently purchased an FE-2 camera, but the owner I got it from couldn't
find the manual.  Anyway, my question is... is the shutter speed as
determined by the light meter variable?  For example, if the indicator 
on the light meter is between 250 and 500, would the camera take a picture
at either one of the 2 speeds or would it actually take the pic at 400 or
something?  And does the meter measure to a zone VI or zone V?  I was reading
the Practical Zone System by Chris Johnson and he said that some built-in
meters place the subject on zone VI instead of V, and I was wondering if the
FE-2 is one of them.  Is it possible to request the manual from Nikon?  Would
it be worth the trouble?  And if so, how?  Your input is much appreciated...
thanks.
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From: sbertsch@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steve Bertsch)
Subject: Re: Any info on a "Spirotone 18mm/F3.2" ?
Organization: University Systems
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:50:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.195944.3622@makesys.com> sheldon@makesys.com (Sheldon) wri
tes:
>I'm looking for wide-angle lenses for Pentax K mount, and I ran across a
>"Spirotone" 18mm lens. I've never heard of this brand; does anyone out there
>know anything about them? Are they any good?
>The lens looked to be in good shape, but it looked kind of old.
>

Vivitar makes a 19mm f/3.8 that comes in Pentax PKA mount. It's not perfect,
but good enough for the money. About $110-$140 retail.
-- 
bertsch.3@osu.edu
From: bjs@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: 8x10, Christopher Burkett, light sources
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:42:36 GMT
Reply-To: bjs@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Distribution: rec.photo
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA



Me: 

>This weekend in a gallery in Carmel I saw some of the most amazing photographs 
>that I've ever seen.  The artist's name was Christopher Burkett.  The 
>photographs were nature images printed on 20x24 paper, in color.  Most were of 
>the genre in which incredibly fine colored detail is used to capture rather
>mundane scenes and render them exquisitely lovely.  Ack.  I can't really
>describe them.  Hopeless.  

Geoff Allen:

>Sounds sort of like Eliot Porter.  Are their photographs similar?

Sigh.  Blush.  Embarrassment.  I hate to admit it but, while I know
I've seen Eliot Porter's work, I can't place it in my memory.  So
the answer is "I don't know".

Barry
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From: vhs6r@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Victor Hsiao-yu Shao)
Newsgroups: rec.photo,misc.wanted
Subject: WANTED: spotmeter
Keywords: photo,meter
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:34:02 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

I'm currently looking for a 1 degree spotmeter, preferably the Minolta
one.  If you'd like to sell yours, please leave me a message at:

vhs6r@kelvin.seas.virginia.edu

Thanks.
From: uli@i13d5.ira.uka.de (Uli Bodenhausen)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: can the 7xi with 3500xi flash do this?
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:57:39 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: i13d5.ira.uka.de


Hi,
I'm interested in using the 7xi plus the 3500xi wireless
flash for portraiture. I'm planning to use the main flash
(the 3500xi) slightly from the side. As far as I understand, the
internal flash of the 7xi is used to control the 3500xi. Additionally,
I need some flash to lighten the background and occasionally as a
backlight.

Right now, I use thungsten lights with spot metering for this
purpose. Equipment is heavy and not very transportable and
spot-metering takes time and my own concentration away. I
would prefer a light, portable system that can automatically 
expose high contrast situations well (lighted by flashes).

Here are my questions:

	1. Can wireless slave flashes be used to lighten the
	background?

	2. Does the on-camera flash (that I want to control
	the 3500xi) put significant light on the person (which
	I would not like)?

	3. Can the 7xi flash exposure system handle black 
	dressed persons in front of a dark blackdrop? Is the
	flashmetering also some kind of matrix metering?

	4. Can I use softboxes for the main flash without compensating
	the exposure?

	5. Are there any other options that are portable, inexpensive
	and automatic?

	6. How strong is the flash? 

I don't own the 7xi yet, but I could borrow one. The wireless
flash system seems interesting. If the above described system
would do what I want, then I would get one (with one lens)
for the described purpose.

	Uli
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