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From: daviss@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (steven davis 283-4129)
Subject: Heavy Metal
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:50:50 GMT

Heavy Metal is one of my favorite movies but it has been quite a
while since I have seen it because of its unavailability on home 
video due to legal problems over royalties.  I also collect animation
cels and I was talking to the owner of an animation art gallery here
in Houston and he said he would be willing to try and have the
movie shown at Rice University as part of an animation film series
he helps sponsor.  

Rice has agreed to show the movie but they don't know how to obtain 
a copy.  I remember reading on the net a month or two ago about 
other universities that have shown Heavy Metal. I would appreciate
it if somebody could e-mail me the name of a school where it was 
recently shown and if possible the sponsoring organization so I can
find out how to get a print.

It would be even better if somebody actually knows how to get hold
of a print of the movie.  

Thanks for any help.


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From: farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Tsui Hark filmography?
Date: 15 Nov 92 11:02:12 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <BxMnwt.Mu7@taligent.com>, Jeff Wishnie <jwishnie@taligent.com>
writes:
>Thanks for the Jackie Chan filmography. Does anyone have a Tsui Hark
>filmography (I think I have the name right--the director of the Swordsman
>and Chinese Ghost Story movies)?
>
>- Jeff
Well heres a partial filmography of the films I have seen:

We Are Going To Eat You
The Butterfly Murders
All the Wrong Clues for wrong Soloutions
Dangerous Encounters
Zu Warriors from Magic Mtn.
Chinese Ghost Story 1-3
Swordsman 1 & 2
The Raid
Once Upon A Time in China ! & 2
Twin Dragons
King of Chess
A Better Tommorow 3(producer of 1,2)
Aces Go Places 3
Working Class
Pekeing Opera Blues
Shanghai Blues
I LOve Maria(Actor)
The Master
(On the Chinese Ghost Story films, Swordsman and The Raid it's debatable
whether he fully directed these. HE is usally credited as producer and Ching Su
Tungis credited as director--but Hark is most assosiated withthese films)
 
He als produced these films:
The Killer
A Better Tommorow 1,2
Gunmen
Terracotta Warroir
Organization: Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:41:49 -0500 
From: Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Woo's "The Killer" out on US video
	<1992Nov17.111357.20530@yang.earlham.edu>

>I am actually really hopeful about John Woo's American effort.  You must 
>remember that when Chow Yun Fat was used by Woo in A Better Tommorow, his 
>reputation was not the greatest in the world as an actor. 

His previous films had not made money and he was considered box-office
poison.  This has little if anything to do with his reputation as an
actor.  

I don't know about the chronology, but Chow Yun Fat is not primarily an
action film star.  At least half of his films are romantic comedies. 
That's why I compared him to Cary Grant.  

>Jean Claude Van Damme has the potential of bringing out a 
>strong performance.  He is not a cold person.

Maybe he has that potential.  Personally, I don't believe it. 
Nonetheless, why would anyone choose a star who may have such potential
over one who has  demonstrated it already?  Only someone who has to sell
out to make his name in Hollywood!

daniel
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: elric movie
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:26:15 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

AS>And Aidan (sp?) Quinn would be perfect as Elric. He looks so much like him an
AS>y
AS>he'd hardly even need make-up. Any other suggestions for cast or crew?

     A. (sp?) Quinn?  The name doesn't ring a bell; what else has he
     appeared in?

     Moorcock was at the forefront of the science fiction "New Wave" when
     he wrote the Elric stories, and as such, I think the movie might
     actually be one of the few that would benefit from a rock-and-roll
     soundtrack - or better yet, a soundtrack composed of rock-and-roll
     instrumentals and no lyrics.

     You'd need a suave, charismatic villain actor to play Yyrkoon, and
     someone REALLY sexy for the role of Cymoril...
---
  SLMR 2.1a  Happy happy!  Joy joy!
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Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Film Threat Magazine
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:29:59 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <37670@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, jrm@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Jeff Mason)
writes:
>Recently I picked up a magazine called Film Threat, subtitled The Alternative
>Movie Magazine (or something like that), it comes out six times a year, and is
>dedicated to old and new alternative film/video, i.e. cult-movies.  It was a
>fantastic magazine, funny, irreverent, politically incorrect, and generally a 
>great read.  After reading it, I sent away for a year subscription ($12 in the
>continental United States.)
>
>Does anyone regularly read this magazine?  What kind of comments/observations
>do you have?
>
>
I have been a semi-regular reader of Film Threat since it's 1 step above
fanzine days. Overall it's decent mag for "underground/cult" films. Sometimes
they go a little overboard-to rude and to much repetion of information between
Film Threat and Film Threat Video.
From: jrm@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Jeff Mason)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Film Threat Magazine
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:08:50 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Recently I picked up a magazine called Film Threat, subtitled The Alternative
Movie Magazine (or something like that), it comes out six times a year, and is
dedicated to old and new alternative film/video, i.e. cult-movies.  It was a
fantastic magazine, funny, irreverent, politically incorrect, and generally a 
great read.  After reading it, I sent away for a year subscription ($12 in the
continental United States.)

Does anyone regularly read this magazine?  What kind of comments/observations
do you have?
From: mschenk1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Schenk)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Heathers
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:59:33 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College


   Am I alone in saying that "Heathers" is the greatest movie of our
generation?  I have a feeling I am not.  I have personally seen the movie
79 times, and I was just curious if anyone out there has topped this. 
Either post your reply or send it to me at mschenk1@cc.swarthmore.edu.

                               Matthew
Schenk
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: BR-Replicants and Pain
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:42:29 GMT

In article <mwojcik-161192124144@college23.sas.upenn.edu>, mwojcik@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Michael Wojcik) writes:
|> I just watched Blade Runner (not the DC) over the weekend. I tried to keep
|> the recent "Is Deckard a replicant?" thread out of my mind (not that I read
|> all of it), and the question I have is this...
|> 
|> Do replicants feel pain? In several scenes (the eye shop, Priss's egg), the
|> replicants intentionally demonstrate their absence of pain, and when
|> Deckard wastes the first replicant, she keeps running with several bullet
|> holes in her. Yet near the end, Priss is flailing around in GREAT pain, and
|> when Roy is attempting to ward off the tissue necrosis, he pushes a nail
|> through his hand to, I guess, "stimulate" it into functioning. Can you
|> say...Inconsistant?

Interesting point. Perhaps the replicants are enhanced so that they do
not feel extreme heat and cold (liquid nitrogen, boiling water etc.)
EXTERNALLY. But if their internals are affected they do feel pain,
ie. bullets in Pris, Roy's loss of motor control, etc..

|> 
|> OK. The relevance to the IDAR? thread. If replicants either feel no pain,
|> have a high tolerance for pain, or can control WHEN they feel pain, then
|> Deckard is not a replicant since he obviously feels *something* when Roy
|> breaks his fingers.

I still say just the fact that every replicant can kick the sh*t out
of Deckard means he cannot possibly be a replicant.

|> 
|> Oh boy, I hope I didn't open a can of worms again. Is there a logically
|> ordered, edited, rewriten paper based on the IDAR? thread floating around
|> the nets somewhere? Can someone email it to me? please?
|> 
|> PS The same day I watched BR, Ladyhawke was on later that afternoon.
|> Gotta love that Rutger Hauer!
|> 
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From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: GODZILLA VS BIOLLANTE
Date: 18 Nov 1992 01:45:11 GMT
Organization: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine...
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniblab.aero.org
Keywords: Godzilla Monster Japan Biollante

In article <1992Nov14.202946.2864@news.columbia.edu> dave@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (David Milner) writes:
>The most terrifying monster of all time is back in his greatest movie ever.
> ...

Dave, is it going to be in the theatres, or just on video?

		Bob Statsinger

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Heathers
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:13:25 GMT

In article <MC8SB8LD@cc.swarthmore.edu>, mschenk1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Schenk) writes:
|>    Am I alone in saying that "Heathers" is the greatest movie of our
|> generation?  I have a feeling I am not.  I have personally seen the movie
|> 79 times, and I was just curious if anyone out there has topped this. 
|> Either post your reply or send it to me at mschenk1@cc.swarthmore.edu.

_Heathers_ was a pretty good movie but I don't think it is the
'greatest movie of our generation' by any stretch of the imagination.
Perhaps _Bladerunner_ is though.

79 times !!?? Try watching some other movies of our generation :-)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@starfish.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: bram stoker's dracula
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:06:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.020946.26514@rs.com> hamid@rs.com writes:
>In article 29340@news2.cis.umn.edu, donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>
>>I'm very tired of sexually irresisitable vampires. "Jonathon" is a far
>>more interesting film, as vampire films go.         ^^^^^^^^
>
>Don't you mean "Martin"?
>
>---
>       Hamid R. Moazed | "The drill bit lodged in my skull
>       Project Manager |    causes me no small amount of pain,
>  Renaissance Software |  but as I recall life without it
>         Los Altos, CA |    was really much the same..."
>   email: hamid@rs.com |                        -KILLDOZER
>

Sorry, but no. "Martin" is an excellent film, but I was referring to
"Jonathan". 

From the psychotronic Encyclopedia:
<abridged, slightly, to save bandwidth>

Jonathan
1970 New Yorker (W. Germany)
Producer: Iouna Films
Director/Screenwriter: Hans W. Geissendorfer
AKA: Jonathan, Vampire Sterben Nicht

A critically acclaimed period film with a decadent vampire (Jurgen Jung)
feeding off the local peasants to the strains of classical music.
It equates vampirism with facism and features the bloody retribution
of the peasants. After initial showings, scenes of Sex and Violence
were added to make the film more marketable.

<Written by Mike Weldon>

Far more interesting treatment of the Vampire idea, than Coppola's
rock video version....
<IMHO>
					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Dark Star
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:39:52 GMT

i enjoy dar star immensely. even have a copy. as far as him filming it on campus. dont know.
---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: angel@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: More on Bladerunner...
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:25:37 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Okay, now it's my turn to comment on this BladeRunner thread, whether or not
Deckard is an android...

Perhaps this is out of line, but the movie was based on a book by Philip K.
Dick called DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP?  The whole point of the book,
I think, was the fact that Deckard himself is not sure whether he is human or
android.  His relationship with the android played by Rachel Ward (I forget the
names now, it's been a long time since I've seen the movie or read the book) is
what causes him to question his own humanity.  He realizes that if she has been
implanted with fake memories, then so he could have been implanted also.  I can
distinctly remember a scene in the book which was not in the movie, in which
Deckard finds a turtle.  Most animals are extinct at this time, and he flips the
turtle over on its back to see if it is real.  It is not, and he doesn't know
what to feel about this.  The whole story is based on this ambiguity: he doesn't
really feel anything about anything, does he?  He seems to just float through
life with a sneer on his face...

Anyway, to pick up where a previous poster left off, discussing the 'droids
as classified A, B, and C for their physical and mental abilities, could it be
that Deckard is a B in both physical and mental, Roy is an A in both, Priss is
A in physical and B in mental, and Leon is an A in physical and C in mental--
who says that they all have to be the same?  Also, in the case of Deckard being
classified lower than the rest, isn't this possible also?  Maybe his level was
the only one that the police force could afford....

And, to respond to the question from Michael Wojcik of UPenn, which was: "Is
there a logically ordered, edited, rewriten (sic) paper based on the IDAR?
thread?"  The answer is YES!!  Read the book!!!

That's all I have to say now.....
angel
From: upham@cs.ubc.ca (Derek Upham)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: HK video reviews
Date: 23 Nov 1992 11:11:35 -0800
Organization: Raven's Auto Body Repair Shop, Mega-Tokyo.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cs.ubc.ca

shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:

>The Swordsman I&II stars Jet Li as a swordsman.

Uh, no, you're only half correct.  "Swordsman" stars Sam Hui, who has
been doing movies (and singing) in Hong Kong for years.  I understand
that the movie was half written as a tribute to King What'shisname,
who directed a whole bunch of martial-arts/fantasy films back in the
60s and 70s.  King was a co-director through much of the film
(although he had to bow out due to poor health), and all this made Sam
Hui a perfect choice to play the heroic lead.

Tsui Hark seems to have had free-reign over the sequel, since he
replaced pretty much every actor in the first film (mostly with his
current group of actors).  Jet Li and Rosamund Kwan are both from
OUATIC 1 and 2, for example, and the imprisoned Highlander chief was
the Iron Skin martial artist from OUATIC.

"Swordsman" and its sequel are very good films.  The first doesn't
have as tight a storyline as the second, but it's a touch crazier (a
good thing) and the sets and costumes are stunning.

Derek

-- 
Derek Lynn Upham                               University of British Columbia
upham@cs.ubc.ca                                   Computer Science Department
=============================================================================
"Ha!  Your Leaping Tiger Kung Fu is no match for my Frightened Piglet Style!"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: Richard.Holmes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Woo's "The Killer" out on US video
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:57:39 GMT

In article <farant.2aue@terapin.com> farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason) writes:
> While I have not seen An Autums Tale or as Tears go by one thing I have noticed
> about HK filmmakers is that they have the ability to make films about people
> and theire relationships. Whether it's an ultraviolent gangster flick ala John
> Woo or something a little more low key they have the abiltiy to make films in
> which you care about the characters. I have noticed that a lto of times even in
> the most cheesiest film some thought on the relationship of the characters was
> given. While most American films seem to fail in that category-everything feels
> so contrived in most US films. I beleive that the film "Stop or My Mom will
> Shoot" would have made a great HK film.

After all the good press "The Killer" has been getting I got it out on
video and after looking at the video cover, I was quite unprepared for
the polished movie that it was - it even had some (dare I say) real old-
fashioned *cinema magic* about it.  The killer himself and the heroine 
oozed charm in the quieter scenes and the fine cinematography and music
would easily blow away a lot of Hollywood features (with the bland
"production-line" filming and music that is so off-putting).

Unfortunately we found the tense scenes ranged in quality a bit - we
guffawed at the "I want you to kill me!" line and even though the action
made it a bit of a roller coaster ride, it was eventually weighed down
by ridiculousness (almost Busby-Berkeley death routines and a dreadful
baddies-gun-against-girl's-head cliche) which really ruined it for me.

So what I want to know is: are there any *four-star* cult movies or 
is it part of the definition of a "cult" movie that it is a let-down
somewhere along the track?

Is "The Wicker Man" a cult movie?  (I really enjoyed that, and as far
as I know, it's faultless) and would anyone like to email me with other
suggestions of really top-notch ones?

Richard
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From: jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Prophecy in Highlander
Date: 22 Nov 1992 00:46:50 -0600
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <722356853snx@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au> you write:
>IMHO, some of the Immortals may have been aware of their purpose and the
>"rules" (holy ground, the distant land, etc) from when they were born.
>MacCloud didn't seem to realise he was immortal until he was shown by
>Ramirez.  Others might have varied in how much they "knew" from birth.

I don't think they would know from birth, because theoretically
all of them would know from birth.  I figure they learned from
experience, much like MacCloud did.  Ramirez guided MacCloud
because he figured that by teaching him, he would stand a better
chance than letting him learn by himself.

>BTW, I haven't seen H2 and I don't intend to.  As far as I'm concerned,
>H1 is canon, H2 is not (from what I've read).  If there is a H3, I'd
>prefer to see a story using the same ideas from H1 but with different
>characters and set in a different time.  More details on how many
>Immortals there were and other detail would be interesting, no?

You should be glad you never saw H2.  I actually saw the american
version on Showtime the other day, and it was a bit better than
the European(?) version I saw on laserdisc.  From what I read in
Variety, Highlander III is a go, with Lambert signed on, I'm not
sure about Russell Mulcahy.  It's called (tenatively) Highlander
III - The Vanishing.  From the one-line description, it has
something to do with MacCloud fighting a villian that can change
shape.  I have no idea if it will take place on Zeist, or if
they'll just forget H2 ever happened.

jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca      |  "It's better than bad,it's good!"
                           |             - Log(tm) by Blammo!
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hamid@rs.com (Hamid R. Moazed)
Subject: Re: bram stoker's dracula
Reply-To: hamid@rs.com
Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:09:46 GMT

In article 29340@news2.cis.umn.edu, donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>
>I'm very tired of sexually irresisitable vampires. "Jonathon" is a far
>more interesting film, as vampire films go.         ^^^^^^^^

Don't you mean "Martin"?

---
       Hamid R. Moazed | "The drill bit lodged in my skull
       Project Manager |    causes me no small amount of pain,
  Renaissance Software |  but as I recall life without it
         Los Altos, CA |    was really much the same..."
   email: hamid@rs.com |                        -KILLDOZER

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:43:14 GMT

dont you know owning a copy is illegal? my goodness. (hehehe)
as long as u dont charge money they cant hit u with a fine. 
i am sure someone on the net can get u one.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hongl@cs.tamu.edu (HL)
Subject: Re: Woo's "The Killer" out on US video
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:08:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.111357.20530@yang.earlham.edu> uril@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>In article <Yf213PK00Uh_85K48x@andrew.cmu.edu>, dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Read) writes:
>> "JUDEX" says:
>> 
>> In his HK films Woo has usually worked with first-rate ACTORS and not
>> action-film pieces of meat.  Chow Yun Fat is not the HK version of Van
>> Damme, but of Cary Grant.  Leslie Cheung, Sally Yeh, Ti Lung, Cherie
>> Chung and Jackie Cheung are all top notch actors.  (Look at the trilogy
>> of fine performances that form the center of BULLET IN THE HEAD -- who
>> would remember it if Dolph Lundgren, Van Damme and Steven Seagal had
>> played the three friends).  So even when the screen is exploding with
>> bullets the people holding the guns are believably motivated human
>> beings.
>
>I am actually really hopeful about John Woo's American effort.  You must 
>remember that when Chow Yun Fat was used by Woo in A Better Tommorow, his 
>reputation was not the greatest in the world as an actor.  However, 
>because of Woo's fabulous direction, he pulled a great performance out of 
>Chow Yun Fat. 

Actually, Chow Yun Fat was considered good actor at that time.  His TV show
shanghai beach was so good that even today it is still the best in TV shows.
He was doing quite well in TV world, not in movie world though.  A better
tomorrow only helped him in moive world.