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From: vv1@dgp.toronto.edu (Marc J. Ouellette)
Subject: Re: Pronounciation
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:10:50 GMT

tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors ) writes:
> I hate it when I'm listening to a sports broadcast and some fool makes
>a big-time error in pronouncing a sports stars name. Not unknown
>players, thats to be expected, but not the stars. For example, I have
>[...a bunch of examples deleted...]
> An announcer should learn what he/she's talking about.
One that I wonder about is Mike Ricci.  Every sports announcer seems to
pronounce his last name as Ree-chee.  However, he and my girlfriend went
to the same high-school, and she said that they use to pronounce it as
Ree-See...

Marc
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From: gjp@sei.cmu.edu (George Pandelios)
Subject: Re: What's the deal on that Pens Logo?
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:26:04 GMT


In article <arbogastw.20.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>, arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
|> 
|> I was well aware that the Pens had changed logos following the 'ol Stanley 
|> Cup win, but after getting my first glimpse of the new design last night, 
|> the question that pops to mind is "what moron got a hold of the Pen at 
|> decision time?"
|> 
|> Warren

Warren, I'm with you.  The new logo is UGLY!  

Q.  How ugly is it?  

A.  It's so ugly only a mother (sorry, Anna ;^) could love it and then 
    only on payday.  

It's so ugly I wrote Howard Baldwin about it.  He sent me a nice note saying 
that I was wrong, lots of people liked it.  So much for taste.

Anyway, I'm hereby christening the new Penguin logo - ROBO-PIGEON.

By the way, I'm giving Lemieux 7 years for spearing, my wallet that is.  ;^)

George
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Any ESPN/SCNY Devils Blackout this Friday? (Was: Flyers-Penguins)
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:59:35 GMT

kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden) writes:
>
>Long live Hockey on ESPN!
>
>P.S. I really do not mind having the Flyers play on Friday as well!

Could someone please give us the final word on the local blackout
rule?  Is the priority given to home broadcasters of both teams
involved which are covering the same game, or only the home team's
broadcasters?  I'm posing this question because KBL had the Penguins
game last night (according to the Net) but Philadelphia got it over
ESPN.  This Friday's game is listed in the New York Times for both
SportsChannel New York (SCNY) and ESPN, with the Devils visiting
the Flyers ... if SCNY doesn't have a free preview (usually they
do on opening weekend, especially with all the disconnects they've
had due to the Mets stinking out the summer (-;), would I be stuck?

gld
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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: USENET Hockey Draft week 1 standings
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:49:52 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct13.160407.25604@idacom.hp.com> andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott) writes:
>Here are the standings after the Oct. 13 update.
>
>	- Andrew
>
>USENET Hockey Draft Standings
>Week 1
>
>Posn	Team				Pts	Proj	Cash	Last Posn
>
>1.	ice legion                      51	1614.8	11.8	(--)
>2.	Satan's Choice                  53	1561.5	14.5	(--)
>3.	Pond Slime                      46	1533.7	0.7	(--)
>4.	King Suke                       46	1523.6	4.6	(--)
>5.	Allez les Blues                 46	1506.7	8.7	(--)
>6.	Zachmans Wingers                45	1505.8	49.8	(--)
>7.	On Thin Ice                     45	1442.8	42.8	(--)
>8.	Mombasa Mosquitos               42	1438.0	17.0	(--)
>9.	Go Flames                       45	1435.6	14.6	(--)
>10.	Cafall and Crew                 40	1433.2	47.2	(--)


I've come to love the first week of Andrew's draft -- it's probably
the only time I'll make the top ten.  :-)  Beats my personal best,
too.  Hey, let me gloat, I may never do this well again ;-)












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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:06:06 GMT
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Well,it didn't take long - a whole pre-season - for the Bruins to realize
that Bob Sweeny was/is a waste. I'm not going to start Bob Sweeny bashing
since that subject has been rehashed by the Bruins fans in r.s.h on numerous
occasions over last season. He did show some agressiveness(a typical contract
ploy by undedicated,selfish athlete seeking a new deal) in the playoffs
this past spring for which Mike Milbury gave him a new contract over
the summer.

He was scratched out for last night's win against the Whalers and today
he was placed on waivers. Buffalo Sabres picked him up for some unknown
reasons.

Bob Sweeny joins Craig Janney and Rick Bowness in the exile category as
the third participant of the infamous L'Affaire in Quebec City last
season when Bowness stripped Janney and Sweeny of their Bruins jerseys
during the intermission.

Speaking of ex-B's, Nevin Markwart will be joining the Whalers any day
now as he successfully completes his tryout with Hartfor's AHL affiliate
in Springfield,MA.

-PPV Mark
From: p7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Anthony Jang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pacifiers in honor of Lindros
Date: 14 Oct 1992 16:10:27 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Keywords: Lindros

In article <93084@netnews.upenn.edu> dsimon@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Derron Simon) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.172921.12253@Princeton.EDU> fafuria@der.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia) writes:
>>It's not just that he didn't like their city.  Eric Lindros offended them.
>
>So what!  Deal with it Quebec.  Quebec fans offend me, I can live with it.
>The Quebec game was the worst display I've ever seen by fans.  Yeah, Quebec
>really showed Lindros, I bet he thanks his lucky stars he got out of there!
>
>Derron

There was nothing wrong with what the Quebec fans did, except for perhaps 100 of them
that threw the pacifiers on the ice and delayed the game.  I don't think fans for any team
would've as a whole responded differently.  If Lemieux went through and snubbed the
Penguins back when he got drafted, would you have embraced him?

And though you might say that you wouldn't expect Quebec fans to embrace him,
the only thing they did was boo him.  (I know some of the fans were wearing
diapers, but I'm sure it was more of a fun thing than anything else)

Tony.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:06:09 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens-7 Islanders-3

Lori writes >Grant Jennings (who sucks bigtime)

         Hey I resent that - he's my favorite Penguin!  Yes, he makes a lot
of bad plays but he can still have good nights, too.  All in all, he's not
that bad, but last night, he had a bad night, I agree!
                                                      -Rob
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Borschevsky (wasRe: NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 22:12:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.011439.2787@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>
>To be eligible for the Calder Trophy, a player "cannot have played more than 25
>games in any single preceeding season, nor in six or games in each of any two
>preceeding seasons in any major professional league. To be eligible for this
		       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>award, a player must not have attained his 26th birthday by September 15th of
>the season in which he is eligible."

Hmmm.  Does that mean that if Tom Glavine wants to play hockey again, he won't
be eligible for the Calder Trophy? :-)

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From: slater@aix.rpi.edu (Ralph Christopher Slate)
Subject: Boston's Joe Juneau on the Radio?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:02:58 GMT


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From: hora@ecf.toronto.edu (HO ROBERT ANDREW)
Subject: Re: Borschevsky (wasRe: NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:53:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.221207.12983@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.011439.2787@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>>
>>To be eligible for the Calder Trophy, a player "cannot have played more than 25
>>games in any single preceeding season, nor in six or games in each of any two
>>preceeding seasons in any major professional league. To be eligible for this
>		       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>award, a player must not have attained his 26th birthday by September 15th of
>>the season in which he is eligible."
>
>Hmmm.  Does that mean that if Tom Glavine wants to play hockey again, he won't
>be eligible for the Calder Trophy? :-)
>

Yep.  Tom Glavine turned 26 on March 25 of this year. ;-)

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From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:24:36 GMT

In article <oeqiiZi00WBLA2bbor@andrew.cmu.edu> pp21+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul Andrew Platosh) writes:
>>	A freind of mine and I are in a HEATED DISCUSSION, and maybe a few
>>of the more knowledgable fans out there can help clarify our disagreement.
>> 
>>	In the 1975-1976 and 1976-1977 seasons Cleveland had a profesional 
>>Hockey team of some sorts.
>> 
>>	I feel it was the (NHL) Cleveland Barons, that eventually folded
>>and joined forces or became the NOW Minnesota North Stars.
>> 
>>	My freind feels that the Cleveland Barons were NEVER an (NHL) team
>>and the Cleveland Barons were no more than an (AHL) or (IHL) team. And that
>>the Minnesota North Stars were formed sometime in the 1960's.
>> 
>>	Which is the correct answer, or are neither of us correct!
>
>The Cleveland Barons were never an NHL team.  If I remember correctly,
>the Minnesota Stars evolved from the WHA's Minnesota Fighting Saints.

Wrong and wrong.

The Cleveland Barons WERE an NHL team.  

Cleveland also had a WHA franchise at one point ... the Crusaders, I think.
The Minnesota North Stars and the Fighting Saints are completely unrelated.

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From: vzhivov@alfred.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov)
Subject: Where is Ty Domie?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:22:47 GMT

What happened to Ty Domie? A friend of mine has him in the goon pool
and is wondering where heis.

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From: maube@emr.ca (Martin Aub (CPB))
Subject: stanley cup predictions
Organization: CPCS, Energy Mines & Resources, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:33:12 GMT

After yesterday's great win by Ottawa over Montreal, here are my stanley cup 
predictions

Ottawa over Tampa Bay in 6
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From: gjp@sei.cmu.edu (George Pandelios)
Subject: Re: Still no coach (was Re: Opinions, anyone?)
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:14:17 GMT


In article <Sep.28.11.52.01.1992.29131@romulus.rutgers.edu>,
moakler@romulus.rutgers.edu (bam!) writes:

[some text deleted]

|> 	I also seem to remember that a lot of Pens fans were crying in
|> their beer about the Coffey/Recchi/Tocchet/Samuelsson etc. deal (I
|> can't name names, though). Samuellson is too old, and Tocchet is too
|> injury-prone, and HOW DARE Patrick trade Paul Coffey! I don't hear
|> anyone complaining about it now, eh? That's 2 years in a row Patrick
|> has made brilliant mid-season trades, against fan's wishes (Well, I
|> can't remember too many people upset about losing Cullen and
|> Zalapski.) that led to Stanley Cup wins.
|> 
|> ---
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|> 	                      	!ALLERGIC TO J-POP!

Yep.  I've been saying it for a while:  Patrick and Bowman (and the late 
Badger Bob) are the best front office in the game.  

Pens to three-peat as Stanley Cup Champions.

Nice to start another year of hockey, isn't it?

George
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From: rye@hemlock09.cray.com (James K. Rye)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Where is Darcy Wakaluk?
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:13:21 GMT
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Darcy is with the Minnesota North Stars. He was with them all last
year and starting this year. He never had a try out with any other team
that I know of. He started the Stars first game this year against the Blues
and didn't look real good in taking the loss.


Jim Rye
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From: marshall@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Jim Marshall - DCS)
Subject: Re: Ottawa service
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:46:48 GMT

In article <Bvu0u3.IC0.1@cs.cmu.edu>, clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) writes:
> 
> Questions for a Senators fan:
> 
> ) What is the level of French language customer service offered by the
   Senators? 

> *** Not sure, but the capital region is bilingual (Hull+Ottawa) so it
>     should be pretty good.
 
) Are the arena announcements unilingual or bilingual?

  ***The Announcements are all bilingual.

> ) How was "O Canada" sung?
> 
  ***The national anthem was sung in both French and English alternatively.



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From: chin836@SKDAD.USASK.CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: THN's top Calder candidates
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:07:46 GMT

The latest issue of The Hockey News lists the top 24 rookies eligible for the
Calder this season.  Here are the top 10:

	 1. Eric Lindros
	 2. Joe Juneau
	 3. Scott Niedermayer
	 4. Viacheslav Kozlov
	 5. Teemu Selanne
	 6. Keith Tkachuk
	 7. Patrick Poulin
	 8. Dimitri Yushkevich
	 9. Alexei Kovalev
	10. Shawn McEachern.

The other 14 were in an honourable mention list, which wasn't ranked.

I would place Selanne(22) ahead of Niedermayer(19) and Kozlov(20) because he's
older than them.  Kozlov also won't see lots of ice time with Detroit this
season.

Glenn
From: prevost@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Scott Prevost)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens uniforms
Keywords: Ugly bird...
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:13:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <Bvt28u.9G8.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>"Romulan Warbird".  I like that, Gary.  Though I personally think the new
>logo looks like an ad for "Air Antarctica".

I think it looks like the Partridge Family logo with a triangle
instead of an egg.  Actually, I think it's an improvement over the old
logo, but I never really liked the old logo anyway.


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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Keywords: Foodland instead of the quote
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:43:32 GMT

In article <Bvt6tq.E1w.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>I thought this looked rather tacky.  The boards and the rest of the arena are
>used for advertising, and that's fine.  There's a lot of revenue to be made
>that way.  And I'm sure Foodland paid big bucks to get its' name on the ice.
>And Baldwin said in yesterday's Greensburg Tribune Review that this works out,
>he'll sell more ice space.  But I think it looks cheesy, and more ads would
>make it worse.

I think it looks tacky, but no more tacky than the ads on the boards.  Why
do you think one is fine but not the other?  Is it just that you're used to
the ads on the boards?

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com




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Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 09:07:36 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mike Lange


...the clairvoyant.  On the 6:30pm KDKA-TV sports, good ol' Mike said
that Mario Lemieux was "due to break out" and "have a really big game."
Mike! Mike!  It's the SECOND game of the season.  How can someone be DUE
for anything???  We were giggling about this during the game -- and POW! --
Mario "breaks out and has a really big game."  (Although 5 points in a
game for Mario is "just another day at the office." :)

I hope Mike now says that Paul Coffey is due to be traded back into the
Patrick Division. (Sorry, Glenn!)

Mom.
From: banner@icarus ( banner@semi.mitel.com )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Stanley Cup Question
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:49:13 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

After hearing all the stories about the Stanley Cup in the
past while I have a couple of questions:

-Does the real Stanley Cup ever leave the Hockey Hall of Fame? (When
I say real I mean the one whose "bowl" was the original trophy donated
by Lord Stanley...) What about ceremonial functions ( awards night etc.)?

-When was the replica cup first made? Is that the cup awarded/carried/
abused/etc/etc to the champs?

-Any idea what the appraised value of the original and replica is?
Priceless perhaps?


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From: wpc@sage.cc.purdue.edu (William)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Hockey Night in Toronto
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:14:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Has anyone out there suscribed to Hockey Night in Toronto magazine?
What does it have in it and is it worth subscribing to?

Bill
From: fafuria@burn.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: flyers got lucky!
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:15:59 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <92281.231354RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>NYRANGERS 1993 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS?????????  I don't know....................
>......but the Patrick Division should win it -- I'll give you that.
>
>All you Adams Smythe Norris Fans - start attacking - I'm waiting!!!!!!!!!
>
>THE PAST 10 YEARS...........Stanley Cups
>                       Smythe    6  (Edmonton)
>                       Patrick   3
>                       Adams     1
>                       Norris    keep trying.  Although Detroit's closing in.
>
>
>-Rob

Oh, give it up.  I think most people agreed last year that it would have
been a serious upset for any division but the Patrick to get the Cup
last year.  They had the Rangers (the best record, by a good margin) and
the Penguins (the best players -- Mario, Stevens, Jagre, Barasso, etc,
and the Capitals, who were unstoppable at the beginning and inches from
having the second best record in the league.

Fred
From: cbetz@radioman.cray.com (Charles Betz 66442)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:24:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: walter.1992Oct13.112415.20571
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In article <1992Oct13.134823.11941@cbnews.cb.att.com>, chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller) writes:
> 
> 	A freind of mine and I are in a HEATED DISCUSSION, and maybe a few
> of the more knowledgable fans out there can help clarify our disagreement.
> 
> 	In the 1975-1976 and 1976-1977 seasons Cleveland had a profesional 
> Hockey team of some sorts.
> 
> 	I feel it was the (NHL) Cleveland Barons, that eventually folded
> and joined forces or became the NOW Minnesota North Stars.
> 
> 	My freind feels that the Cleveland Barons were NEVER an (NHL) team
> and the Cleveland Barons were no more than an (AHL) or (IHL) team. And that
> the Minnesota North Stars were formed sometime in the 1960's.
> 
> 	Which is the correct answer, or are neither of us correct!
> 
> - Dan
> 


Dan,

You are correct.  The Cleveland Barrons did exist as an NHL franchise. 
If I remember correctly, they were originally the Oakland Seals and
were later known as the California Golden Seals prior to moving to 
Cleveland.  

After the 1977 season, the Cleveland Barrons merged with the Minnesota
North Stars and the Cleveland franchise ceased to exist.  (I remember a
joke about combining two 5 lb. bags of s---....).

Charlie Betz
Cray Research, Inc.
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