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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Help with a '55 Harley
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:46:54 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley,rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: MSUS

In article <1993Jan26.123640.24833@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
fist@iscp.bellcore.com (Richard Pierson) wrote:
> 
> The magnetos are available direct from morris magnetos
> on rt 24 morristown NJ (dont remember the zip). 

Here is the whole scoop.  Thanks to Don Collings for forwarding
this to me last year.

                     Morris Magneto / Morristown Cycle
                          103 Washington Street
                       Morristown, New Jersey 07960
                              201 540 1244

They rebuilt an old Mag I picked up for $35.  For $110 it is like new.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Coast to coast baby.
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:00:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.201401.9632@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
|> 
|> As long as there are a possible two coast to coast racers I propose:
|>  
|> We pick a three month period for contestants to complete the task.
|> $500 dollars a head. Say ten percent to a designated charity. Checkpoints
|> and a givin route. Contestants must mail checks to an upstanding
|> individual(such as myself)(just kiddin) to hold.
|> Thoughts? To much money? Perhaps a first second third pay off?
|> Maybe make it annual? Winner is KotA(merica)? Maybe a couple hundred registra?

i say under $100 NO PRIZE MONEY! just a plaque that the winner would have
their name engraved on and be allowed to keep till the next race (just
like the dickweed award). all the cash would be donated to what ever charity
the winner chose..........

|> I'm gonna cross post this just to see if we can get something going.
|> If we can come up with volunteers (I might do a chicago checkpoint if
|> available) I might throw my helmet in the ring(of course I'd have to
|> buy a new one then). So ??????????????????????

i would be willing to do a denver/boulder check piont but i could be
bought to easily............i also would be up for a cross country 
high speed trip..........

laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn)
Subject: Re: heyuk! be 'murkin to!
Reply-To: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:20:14 GMT

--

In article <Stafford-220193101529@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, 
Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

|>In article <1993Jan22.012601.10946@tcsi.com>, markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
|>wrote: 
|>> In article <C17MrL.EuI@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, klinger@ccu (Jorg Klinger)
|>writes:
|>> This brings up an interesting point I read in The_Harley_Davidson
|>> _Sportster_Performance_Handbook.  It seems that in the late seventies
|>> AMF was making steady stream of improvements to the Sportster.  The
|>> most extensive of which was a new frame (the frame first used in the
|>> XLCR).  This frame was both stiffer and lighter than the previous
|>> frame, and made a big improvment in the handleing of the bike.  
|>
|>	It may be true that the frame was new, but the handling was
|>	totally UNREMARKABLE. I owned a new 	XLCR and I don't mind
|>	telling you that it was not a good handling bike.  Not in
|>	the least. My '73 Rickman/Trident handled better.  So did
|>	the BMW R80.  I hated that XLCR.  Crap.
|>

I'll second that. I've ridden stock XLCR's and the frame is quite flexy.
The standard XL frame was heavier but stiffer. I've also ridden a 74"
XLCR. A bit hairy to say the least.

CdH

<<<<<<<<<<<<   Ninety eight....don't be late  >>>>>>>>>>>>
Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Shrewsbury MA USA
dehahn@shr.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: rec.moto.harley T shirts?
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:03:41 GMT

In article <moseley.172.727814292@u.washington.edu>, moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
> It would be "different" to have a Harley T shirt with rec.moto.harley on the 
> back, instead of a dealer. Any interest? I've got no idea what it would cost 
> to pull off. And of course someone would have to come up with some kind of 
> logo. Just a thought.
> 
  Any doh'ers got any design ideas for a logo?  Maybe something that
incorporates a hog (animal or classic machine).  Instead of rec.moto harley, we
could just have doh.  And as most Harley t-shirts have cities of origin, and
the doh is actually a worldwide organization, maybe we could print 'the world'
or something a little more creative.  If we get enough interest, I would
volunteer to work with various people on design, contact with Harley corporate,
etc., as I live about an hour from Milwaukee.  This could be interesting!

Michael Menard
doh 0000000003
	

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From: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan)
Subject: Re: Coast-2-Coast race (was Re: I am con)
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:17:25 GMT

>>>>>>>> (David F. Wright) writes:
>>>David> My GSXR 1100 will (beat your Harley in a race)

>>lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>>	You're on.  Boston to LA and back.  Pick a start time.

I've met Jerry. I've met Jerry's Harley. And considering I was in
Colorado at the time, and Jerry's from Back East (tm), my money's
on Jerry too. And I'm buying stock in David's chiropractor. And
an insurance policy, too.

Heh heh heh... man, I may pay the FLHS off early...

--
John Sloan              "Since I've given up hope,       +1 303 497 1243
NCAR/SCD                   I feel much better."      Fax +1 303 497 1137
Boulder CO 80307-3000 USA                           jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu
Logical Disclaimer: belong(opinions,jsloan). belong(opinions,_):-!,fail.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: You would not catch me dead on a Harley
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:44:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.203741.2620@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> jons@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jon T. Schoepflin) writes:
>
>
>
>        flames are welcome
>-- 
>
    That's funny, my X-wife said that was the only way you would catch her on
any motorcycle. She claimed they were inventions of the devel, that's the
only way they could be able to stand up on only (one or) two wheels.


Ed Campbell
        Email ed@Tekelec.com (seems to work)
doh 0000005774 

'57 FL '76 XLCH  My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.



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From: jons@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jon T. Schoepflin)
Subject: You would not catch me dead on a Harley
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:37:41 GMT




        flames are welcome
--
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: rec.moto.harley T shirts?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:38:12 GMT
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
NNTP-Posting-Host: microb0.biostat.washington.edu

It would be "different" to have a Harley T shirt with rec.moto.harley on the 
back, instead of a dealer. Any interest? I've got no idea what it would cost 
to pull off. And of course someone would have to come up with some kind of 
logo. Just a thought.

Steve
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
From: 92640952s@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: HARLEY in the U.S.A
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:27:42 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

HEY THERE,

I'll be in the States for about 6 weeks in March/April. Meanwhile I'd like to
buy a used Harley just to ride through the country - its condition doesn't
matter to me. Does anybody know where I can buy or rent a bike for a good
price, no matter where ? Private offers welcome !
Please send your information to
Dirk Petri via E-MAIL:   92640952@csghsg5a.bitnet
or reply in this conference.

THANX A LOT


Dirk
From: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Ruber mount CCI tank on Sporty?
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:40:51 GMT
Reply-To: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1993Jan20.183928.23691@engage.pko.dec.com> dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com writes:
>
>No, the Superglide tank is NOT a Fat Bob tank. It doesn't look at all like
>a set of Fatbobs or imitation Fatbobs.

I've been reading about this, and it seems that Harley did indeed have
an entry-level SuperGlide with a Fat Bob tank in the mid 1980's.  It
had the two gas caps and two dials in the center.  I'm not sure what
the letters were... FXR something.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Triumph over Mediocrity
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:29:04 GMT

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>The new Triumphs are as completely unlike anything Triumph has ever
>done before.  People seem compelled to call them 'japanese like'
>but that resemblance is inspired by the new Trumpet's super tech
>design, not because of any copying.

A persistant rumor has it that the new Triumph licensed the engine
design from Kawasaki (or substitute your favorite brand here). I rather
doubt it myself, because it doesn't look all that much like the Ninja
engine.

>They will be triples.  No fours.  They are be fast.  Damned
>fast.  If you like, there are several pictures of the new
>bikes on the net (in my server.)

Actually both. There are currently 750 & 900 triples and 1000 & 1200
fours for sale in the UK. "Motorcyclist" says that Triumph will begin
importing to the US in 1994.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: I am convinced " I am
Date: 23 Jan 93 13:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - Vancouver B.C. - (604)986-9937 (604)255-9937


DS>In article <1993Jan18.151507.1@smith.smith.edu> workshop@smith.smith.edu wri
DS>|
DS>|I wanted to mention that there is a fundamental difference between a Harley
DS>|and any other bike.  The sound.  Can't you recognize the low rumble from
DS>|miles away...?  I sure can.  That is the true judge of a good bike.

Holy hardtails, Batman! You mean that my 1958 AJS, by the mere virtue of
it's "I eat Hogs and shit Suzukis" megathumper 500cc single exhaust note
is among the best bikes ever made? Yep, it makes a low rumble, actually
more of a low-pitch battle cry. And recognizability? let's just say that
nobody will ever mistake this thing for some soggy hoggy, or _anything_
from Japan or Germany. Oh man, foolish me. I always thought that it was
 my V-twin that should carry me wherever I go. Wow. And all this time I
 thought that my AJS was only good for making noise and oil slicks. . .

 * SLMR 2.0 * Coles Law: finely chopped cabbage
   
 * SLMR 2.0 * It's not what you ride, it's that you ride.
                  
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From: tener@cs.widener.edu (Stuart Tener)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: convert a street sprint to a dirt sprint
Date: 22 Jan 1993 04:10:04 -0500
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.cs.widener.edu

Can someone help me find the parts to convert a street sprint into a dirt
model sprint? This stuff is for my younger brother. If you could either
call him @ (215)-338-6484 or leave me email that would be great.

thank you,

stuart b. tener
tener@cs.widener.edu
(215)-338-6005
From: tomw@megatek.com (Tom Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: venerable porcine shift mechanisms
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:32:39 GMT
Reply-To: tomw@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <C1FyxJ.Lop@world.std.com> rwl@world.std.com (Robert W Lantz) writes:
>Hi ho, fellow motorcycle enthusiasts!
>
>I have a '67 dresser with mousetrap clutch linkage.  I suppose
>the bellcrank is a holdover from the foot clutch.  

If so, they "held it over" for roughly 20 years! For those not familiar
with this little beauty, it's supposed to make the clutch easier to hold
in when stopped at a light or whatever.

>At any
>rate, I can't see that it serves any useful purpose, and it
>makes the clutch righteous hard to adjust.  
>
>Can this frumious arrangement be ameliorated?
>
>Have a Nice Day,
>
>Pigsnot
>
It was standard procedure to remove these when building choppers in the
'60s and '70s. Nothing to it -- remove the thing and get or build a longer
chutch cable that goes back to the tranny. You'll need to build or buy a
little fitting to hold the cable jacket end so you have something to pull
against to actuate the clutch lever arm on the tranny. Depending on the
details back there, you may want to use a bracket attached to the
transmission or some part of the oil tank mountings.

On the bikes I did this to, I never found the lever pressure needed to be
excessive, but I have to admit we did it to big twins made well before
yours. 

I would certainly preserve the parts so the modification can be reversed.
The way Harley prices are going, you may soon have a scooter thats worth
a good deal more if restored to stock condition.

Tom Wright
'89 Heritage Special Classic
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Subject: Coast-2-Coast race (was Re: I am con)
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:59:21 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

Dances With Bikers writes:

>lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>>>>>> (David F. Wright) writes:

>>David> My GSXR 1100 will (beat your Harley in a race)

>>	You're on.  Boston to LA and back.  Pick a start time.

> My money's on Jerry, when's the event?

> Heck, this could even be made into a charity fundraiser to rival the
> raffle of Jody's bra over in rec.moto.

I'm in!  What's a reasonable $ per mile?  Rather, I'll put $200 on
Jerry -- NOTE -- this is a charitable contribution, not a wager.

And I'll offer my place as a half-way respite.  It's about in
the middle of the country.  Party time!

Let's get _serious_ about this.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn)
Subject: Re: Harley Oil?
Reply-To: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:08:16 GMT

--
In article <1993Jan27.121220.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>,
rogers_c@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

|>i HAVE A VERY GOOD friend from Georgia who is a Porsche, Audi, and VW master
|>mechanic. The information I get from him is that Castrol is an approved oil
|>for
|>use in their air cooled engines. He prefers to use the standard oil for
|>normal
|>street engines and breakin periods, but seems to prefer the new Syntec for
|>the
|>engines which are raced. Seeing that he is doing a lot of race prep adn uses
|>it
|>in his own cars gives me great confidence in the product. He has said that he
|>has seen no problems from this oil; in any of the air cooled motors he has 
|>built and rebuilt. Since Porsche reccomends this oil for use in there 930
|>turbo
|>engines it would seem to be OK for use in most Harleys. I do not think that
|>they will see as much hard use as many of the turbo's do. These are just my
|>opinions though.
|>
|>Carl Rogers

Castrol GTX 20W-50 automotive oil turned to pisswater after an hour in my
motor. Oil pressure at the rockers was barely above zero. No thanks. I'll
use an oil designed for my motor. Syntec may be the nads, but at $5.00/qt
I'd rather change more often. 

CdH

<<<<<<<<<<<<   Ninety eight....don't be late  >>>>>>>>>>>>
Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Shrewsbury MA USA
dehahn@shr.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: heyuk! be 'murkin to!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:06:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.214346.6728@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell) writes:
|
|    So, where were you when they WERE made here? I know there were at
|least 3 US companies that made motorcycles with inline 4 cylinder engines 
|(some with shaft drive) long before the imports "invented" them.

I wasn't even born yet.  That is an absolutely ridiculous point.  The fact
is, when I bought each and every bike I have ever owned, the only option to
get four-cylinder engine, water cooling, shaft drive, forward ergonomics 
(which I *like*), was to buy imported.  Harley has turned their back on 
many, many riders such as me, and it's perfectly reasonable for me to turn 
my back in return.  Now, if a domestic company started manufacturing my 
kind of bike, at my kind of price, (ala Triumph, in UK), I would certainly 
think long and hard about buying one.  But there's not.  I know what I
like, and Harley does not deserve serious consideration.

BTW, I certainly do not claim that Japanese bikes have much new technology
that they "invented".  That's a red herring.  It's just that they apply a lot
of older technology, with some mix of genuinely new technology, to make a 
functional unit that fits my expectations to a tee.  I respond to that
fit with my checkbook.

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: wfrank@well.sf.ca.us (Wade Franklin)
Subject: Re: reliability
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:30:50 GMT



I've put over 5,000 miles on my '92 FXDC without any problems. I rode
from Tennessee to Florida and back without having to tighten a single
bolt. How can a bike be any more reliable than that?
-- 
=------------------------------------------------------------------=
= Wade Franklin          DoD #705      '92 FXDC DynaGlide Custom   =
= wfrank@well.sf.ca.us   HOG, AMA      '66 Triumph Trophy 650      =
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Gold Wing more American than HD?!?!?!?
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:42:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.191842.11652@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>From article <1993Jan20.175533.5944@gecko.uucp>, by ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell):
>> I think it's funny that the stuped lazy unproductive American workers
>> started turning out Hondas of such high quality and at such low cost
>> they found it profitable to start exporting them to Japan.
>
>And to Sweden, and to Germany, and to...
>
>Folks are probably tired of me saying this, but if you ever get a
>chance to tour the Honda motorcycle plant in Marysville, OH, by all
>means TAKE IT! My ole' riding buddy Doug Supp snuck me in once with a
>group of 'Wingers.  It was fascinating. That day they were building
>'Wings for export to Sweden, to euro-specs (low trunk, different lights,
>etc.)
>
>OB H-D:
>
>I hear H-D does similar plant tours. Is that of both the engine plant
>and the motorcycle plant? Those are on my "jump at the chance" list too.
>
    Stop in at your local dealer and see if they have a booklet of photos
taken at the Juno St. plant. (Lots of brickwork in the background) It had
the number to call to setup tours. If they don't have the book, they will
probably have the number. I am in the middle of moving, but if you didn't
get it before I'm finished, I will look it up and post it.

BTW I don't know if they still do it, but they were running a tour package
for forign buyers. A group toures the factory, watch their new bikes being
built, then go on a guided tour of the US which ends with awtching the bikes
being crated and loaded for shipment home. This may be why new HD's are now
so popular globaly.


Ed Campbell
        Email ed@Tekelec.com (seems to work)
doh 0000005774 

'57 FL '76 XLCH  My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


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From: garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett)
Subject: Re: Triumph over Mediocrity
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Rice University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:14:55 GMT

In article <Stafford-220193162151@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>The old Triumphs will remain unique.
>
>The new Triumphs are as completely unlike anything Triumph has ever
>done before.  People seem compelled to call them 'japanese like'
>but that resemblance is inspired by the new Trumpet's super tech
>design, not because of any copying.
>
>They will be triples.  No fours.  They are be fast.  Damned
    		        ^^^^^^^^
The bigger ones (eg. Daytona 1200) are fours. The 900s in their various 
guises are triples.

Dave




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