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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:01:02 GMT

onda@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>	this is off the track a little but i have heard rumors that
>	you can get little containers of NO2  five of them for 2.00 dollars
>	and each caontainer has the equilivent of one whipped cream can.
>	Just was curious if any of you have heard the same????
*----
Well, you can get N2O cartridges for 35 to 60 cents each around here.
You wouldn't want NO2 cartridges.  There are at least two different
kinds of N2O carts - there are some intended for food propellent and
some intended for anesthesia.
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: PCP/Ketamine
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:50:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.010844.23407@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Misquamicus) writes:
>In the united states, as far as I know, Ket isn't approved for human use.

Wrong.

>Vets do have access, but consider the likelihood of a vet risking loss of
>his licence to make a couple of bucks selling ketamine. Doctors have access to
>all kinds of nifty opiates, but you don't see that much of 'em on the streets. 
>All in all I think this is a rather bold assertion (that Most ket on the 
>streets is indeed ket). Have you any references? Am I to assume these vials
>are labeled in a pharmacological way rather than a generic "Ketamine" label?

Ketamine is an uncontrolled drug, so there's probably a good deal of
diversion from wholesalers, hospitals and similar medical sites which
do not require the complicity of medical personnel.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: panissec@nms.otca.oz.au (Colin Panisset)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Bad Trips and their affect on normal
Keywords: anonymous
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:53:54 GMT

ap.6372@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:

}In May of 1991, and again in June, 1991, I had bad trips.  These were my
}last and second to last experiments with LSD.  Since then, I've noticed
}that occasionally I see little visual disturbances (dark items leave
}"light" remnants for a few seconds), and that late at night I see little
}pink dots sometimes on walls, etc.

This is, in my opinion, completely normal. I have (to date) never done acid,
yet I can attest to the fact that I often see light "reverse images" of
dark objects if I look at them for longer than a few seconds; the same
applies to coloured spots on dark walls, dark pulsing spots in front of
my eyes after extreme exercise (read: overexertion), and the occasional
"visual distortion" which I take to be due to either headaches of
monster proportions, or just plain pressure on the backs of my eyes.

I'd say that there's no need to worry at all about this. In my experience, 
and from my point of view as an untouched brain, it's standard. Some people
just learn to recognise it better. Perhaps your experiences with acid have
lead to you noticing these phenomena more readily.

}To those out there who have had bad trips, am I just being paranoid, or
}does it really affect your life?  I guess I "unlearned" some visual things
}that I used to ignore...?  Whatever it is, I hope it goes away...

That'd be my guess.

--

  -Colin Panisset *:^)                         | "CTBCPP (Clay Tablet By 
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From: lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: N2O
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:44:55 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Nov9.152916.7226@mtu.edu> vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER) writes:
>   I've always wondered how easily and convienient the whipped-cream
>   canister would be.  I've never had the opportunity to purchase one
>   although it seems to me that it would be much more expensive than    
>   standard cartridge breaker (@ $10-$15).


Most of my nitrous hits have been from a whipped cream canister, mostly
because that what was around at the time....

The only real difference I've noted between the cannister and baloons
(besides the price) is that you can continually keep filling the cannister
as you're taking the nitrous with a minimum of effort (the baloons always
seemed mighty clumsy to me, especially when I'm trying to refill one
and the high is going away as fast as I can get the balloon attached...)

On the other hand, you can get into depp trouble if you can keep
inhaling canister after canister after canister (she said, ruefully
remembering passing out from lack of oxygen just recently...)

Also, you can pass a canister much more easily than worrying about
holding a baloon closed all the time. On the other hand, you can have
many baloons for many people, but only one cannister.  Unless you fill
a balloon from the cannister (there's a novel idea....hadn't thought 
of that one).


As to the problems noted in the quoted message above:

- being unable to retrieve all of the gas in the cannisters; well, I
woulnd't know.  I hadn't noticed. I usually recharge the container
before its entirely empty (you learn to tell when its getting
there...)

- not depressurizing enough, or too much; I've taken hits off canisters
that were single- and double-loaded, and other than the *amount* of
gas you can get out of a double loaded one, there isn't much difference
as far as I can tell.  Is it that important to depressureize the gas
fully?

Nitrous is fun, for me, but I have to be very careful.  Taking too
much makes me violently ill.  The catch 22 there is that I always
feel like taking more while the high is on...its coming down thats
so nasty.




-- 
*********************************************************
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still bitchy
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: acid activites
From: onda@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:52:20 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College


	the last one was (alt.drugs) was supposed to be
	RE: acid activies.

	sorry wrong key
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: More misinformation????(X-stasy)
Keywords: Newspapers/crap
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:59:51 GMT

esuqg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Brickwood) writes:
>    In the past few days I have been told about a newspaper article on a girl
>who took a tab (maybe half a tab) of X-stasy while at a party. A few hours
>later she was admitted to hospital suffering from a really bad reaction to the
>drug. Among her symptons were :-

I came across a girl that was suffering from stomach cramps and involuntary
muscle spasms.  Whatever she was on it wasn't X.  Let the buyer beware.

Also, I know of someone who bought a $2000 oz. of something that resembled
ephedrine in its effects...  rather expensive shit, that ephedrine...

(I don't know about your description, however.  It sounds like crystal
 draino, and I hope no one is quite that idiotic...)

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone)
Subject: Re: SO's and drugs
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
	<1992Nov6.223614.3858@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:08:26 GMT


In article <1992Nov6.223614.3858@muddcs.claremont.edu> ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt) writes:

[...]

> I used to be anti-drugs by default -- every decent person is,
> right?  But, as with your girlfriend, this applied only to illegal
> drugs; my nutmeg attempt occurred during this period.  My eventual
> conclusion that illegal drugs weren't so bad came after doing a fair
> amount of reading, which happened after my conclusion that I was
> clueless about gun control led to my investigation of minarchism.
> The NRA is a gateway organization for heroin use, eh?  I keep some
> essays about that I wrote on gun control, drug legalization, and
> Milton Friedman, which I reread occasionally to remind myself how
> easy it is to be certain when you have no idea what you're talking
> about.

	But wouldn't doing nutmeg as a drug still be illegal under the
analogues act?  Perhaps my information isn't correct, but I was under
the impression that the analogues act says that anything that acts
like an illegal drug is illegal.  Of course, if this occurred before
the analogues act, ignore me.
--
Tig Stone 
(oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: steve@weber.com (Steve Keshen)
Subject: Re: Thanks from a FOAfarmer
Organization: Weber Systems, Brookfield, WI USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:35:56 GMT

In article <1ds6mqINN4er@network.ucsd.edu> mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
>Thanks to all who gave advice in saving my FOAFs tomatoes.
>I am not posting names due to the sensitive nature of indoor tomato
>farming in today's society.
>
>
>Solution: be *very* careful with fertilizer, or just don't use it.  Someone
>recommended something called 'blood fertilizer' (I think?) because it
>self-regulates N intake.  Could that person re-post?  I think I lost the
>reference.
>

Of course, as you have found out there are many aspects of tomato(e) growing
that can be tricky to the unordained.  Soil mixture is one aspect often
overlooked.  Unfortunately, I don't carry my references with me everywhere,
and I can't recall the correct term for the blood stuff.  However I do
remember the blood substance mentioned above works much the same as many
organic soil additives.  If "Closet Cultivator" is correct, these particular 
soil additives buffer the fertilizer's nutrient release by absorbing some
of them and then re-releasing them as the organic matter decomposes.  This
decomposition takes time -  therefore the buffer.

This is all from memory so corrections are appreciated.  I'll even correct
myself if I find I'm wrong tonight when I re-read that chapter.

References available upon request.
-- 
Steve Keshen           steve@weber.weber.com  
Weber Systems          spool.mu.edu!weber!steve
2505 North 124th St.   Steady hand, bloodshot eyes.  Stoner or
Brookfield, WI  53005  programmer.  You make the call.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:48:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.172422.667@ab.wvnet.edu> onda@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>In article <BwwABs.497@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>
>	this is off the track a little but i have heard rumors that
>	you can get little containers of NO2  five of them for 2.00 dollars
>	and each caontainer has the equilivent of one whipped cream can.

sorry, this is not a rumor.  this is the truth.  or, at least the best
resemblance I can find.

seriously, a box of 5 "bombs" costs 4.50 Sfr here ( ~$3.00 us ), each 
bomb resembling the CO2 cartridges for air-rifles, and filling one ~1
liter whip cream bottle.

two ways to utilize: 1) fix a cap or other object that will seal around
the bomb and let the gas into a ballon, or 2) remove the valve in the
whipcream bottle, and just put a ballon on the nozzle.

you want more details, e-mail.  but, trust me, it definately works.

--gaspo.

BTW, one bomb fills up a large ballon, so, sit down first.


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Acid activities (Vitamin C)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:14:52 GMT

brash@ocf.berkeley.edu (Aaron Brashears) writes:
: 
: ALD costs $900 a gram and LSD costs $2000-$3000 a gram.  A medium level
: dealer could buy a half of a gram of LSD and a quarter of a gram of ALD with
: a total cost of aound $1500, but have close to $2000 worth of saleable
: product.  ALD causes many of the bad feelings associated with bad acid,
: including cramping, confusion, and delerium at levels under 100ug.  This is
: because even though ALD has similer effects as LSD, ALD is toxic.

What on earth is ALD?

: 
: Just a reminder: if you have clean, pure acid, you feel good, have a very
: natural feel about yourself, and you can sleep.

This generalization is false.  I had a fair amount of the legendary
Owsley stuff many years ago which is still reputed to be finest grade
illictly produced LSD there ever was and sometimes we felt good and
sometimes we didn't.  I never remember feeling natural about anything.
Sleep!?

The only thing I find different about today's LSD and that of the "clean"
years is less consistancy in doseage.  Any other old timers out there that
feel differently?

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts


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From: st1g9@rosie.uh.edu (Lee Preimesberger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] hbwr
Keywords: anonymous
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:32:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov12.001821.16106@Cadence.COM>, bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson) writes...
#  weel,^H^HI heave been ^H^HUsin^H^Hseverael^H^Hhundred
#of thes^H^He seeds for a^H^cuple of ^H^Hyaers know^H
#and heave not^H^H had aeny prooblems yeat
# 

	weel, ^H^HI heave been ^H^Hpos^Hting thea^Hse rather lame
bullshit^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hjests to alt.drugs fu^Hor about an^H hunred articles
now, and aside ft^Hrom a massd^H of angery peaple hunting for me
with torche^Hs and pitchforks - i heave not had any prooblems. :-)

			  Lee Preimesberger
st1g9@jetson.uh.edu ----- Undergraduate Scum ----- University of Houston, USA
         All models over 18.  Copyright (C) 1992 LP Productions.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Source(s)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:55:10 GMT

fduross@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (frank duross) writes:
: > 
: > You are very misinformed.  You are thinking of NO2, which is a major 
: > constituent of industrial pollution and photochemical smog.  Nitrous
: > Oxide is N2O.
: > 
: I am sure that my source said N2O...I can also sight an AP article from
: October 20, 1988 'Carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide....', and also
: a lecture by Douglas Pens given in Utica, NY.  

You had better check your source. Also, NO2 is commonly called nitrous
oxide in the media.

Bill
From: twiggs_te@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Intro to Extasy
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:55:03 EST
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

In article <92308.193217KRF105@psuvm.psu.edu>, <KRF105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could assist a few stressed out
> engineers with a background on the drug eXtasy.  MY questions are as follows:
> (1) Cost per pill - I've been told around $30.
> (2) Are there any hallucinations or side effects to be concerned with?
> (3) Ability to administer to someone (ie unwilling girlfriend) without the
>     individual being conscious of the drug.
> (4) Best place to come in touch with some -
> I've been to several techno clubs in New York and spoke to several people
> who claim it's the greatest thing and the next best to Acid.  Any feedback
> would be great - thanks - the jester.


  (1) Cost per pill - Depends.  Usually $25.  We buy in quantity - 30 pills
	(white capsules) for $400.  I wouldn't buy it in a club unless you
	know your source.  It's always more expensive in a club, and it's 
	very easy to get ripped off (capsule full of speed).

  (2) Hallucinations / side effects - I've never experienced hallucinations,
	although I've heard that if you take a large quantity, you will
	experience some visuals.  The only side effect I can think of would
	be teeth 'grindage'.  For some reason, your jaws like to clinch
	together.  My jaws are always sore the day after rolling.  Just
	have some lollipops or gum around when you roll.

  (3) Administration - easy.  I've done it to several unknowing people, 
	including a religious fanatic, and they ALL absolutely loved it.
	All you do is put the powder in their drink or on some of their
	food.  Make sure, though, that the powder is good X.

  (4) Availability - couldn't tell ya.  I don't live anywhere near New York
	or Penn State.  Unfortunately, finding good stuff is the hardest 
	part.  Get into the right scene, and your connections will 
	increase.  Just keep asking around, I suppose.
From: bw483@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wes M. Schreiner)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Mud Bong! (was Bong ideas)
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:55:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bw483@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wes M. Schreiner)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Funnest bong I ever made started as a standard water pipe constructed
from a wide-mouth 1 liter wine carafe.  The pipe stem exited about 1
inch above the bottom of the vessel, and traveled through about 5 inches
of water.  What made it a "mud bong" was the addition of aquarium filter
charcoal chips to the water.  I added enough chips (they float) so that
there was only a small about of unoccupied water at the bottom.  Of
course the water looks completely black, but it produced the cleanest
smoke I've, umm, experienced.

Now, for all I know, this could amount to overkill in that the charcoal
chips may be removing too much of the desired active ingredients.  I
never conducted any A-B comparisons with more conventional bongs.  

Have fun
-- 
wes schreiner         bw483@cleveland.freenet.edu
                      schreine@milo.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: magnus@bark-fddi.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad)
Subject: Re: Intro to Extasy
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: UVBS -> SFK/T-DSA / SOPS - HOS / RNoN
	<1992Nov10.231837.29893@coli.uni-sb.de>
	<1992Nov11.054420.27100@u.washington.edu>
	<1992Nov12.232113.17782@coli.uni-sb.de>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 04:19:27 GMT

>I think the responses were appropriate...  sympathomimetics with
>unknown teratogenicity are not things to dose others with.

	Ulrich> Ok, I rest my case. I didn't know X was a
	Ulrich> sympathomimetic with unknown teratogenicity. Sorry.

Abbreviate abdominal, aberrant abovementioned abridgment. SwuT.

-Magnus (!a)
From: esuqg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Brickwood)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: More misinformation????(X-stasy)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 11:13:53 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Keywords: Newspapers/crap

Hi,
    In the past few days I have been told about a newspaper article on a girl
who took a tab (maybe half a tab) of X-stasy while at a party. A few hours
later she was admitted to hospital suffering from a really bad reaction to the
drug. Among her symptons were :-

Internal bleeding
Bleeding from various orifices - eyes, mouth, etc. etc. etc.
Almost certain death within a few days.

Now is this, as I suspect, a complete load of crap or is there some grain of
truth in at all?
All responses posted to the newsgroup please.....

Thanx
        Col (using a mate's code)

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: steve@weber.com (Steve Keshen)
Subject: How about mail order? [was:Re: Front Range head shops]
Organization: Weber Systems, Brookfield, WI USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:38:12 GMT


Does anybody know of any mail order head catalogues?  Conservative Milwaukee
put head shops out of business long ago.  People must have been having
too much fun :^).

-- 
Steve Keshen           steve@weber.weber.com  
Weber Systems          spool.mu.edu!weber!steve
2505 North 124th St.   Steady hand, bloodshot eyes.  Stoner or
Brookfield, WI  53005  programmer.  You make the call.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS)
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:25:59 GMT

ath@linkoping.trab.se (Anders Thulin) writes:

>>9127847h@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>>
>>Hello to all......
>>A friend of mine spiked his next door neighbours drink with
>>Spanish Fly.... and a few minutes later she was rubbing herself
>>and then she tore his clothes off and made passionate love to him...

>Actually, chickpeas or oysters are just as good, and not quite as
>dangerous.

	Interestingly enough, the scientific explanation for the powerful
aphrodisiac effects of oysters is that they so closely resemble the so called
"rocky-mountain oysters."  I'll be honest and tell you I don't really know 
a chickpea is, but it sounds like something that resembles a very small 
testicle so it therefore should have the opposite effect.

-- 
 --  Tony Pulokas
     University of Illinois, Urbana/Champaign
     College of Engineering
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] SO's and drugs
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:02:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

        "One can learn to be alone, even enjoy it but let intimacy
         break that solitude, even briefly, and he must start all
         over again."

                                                     Elia Kazan


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: Re:  Acid info...can't get up 
Keywords: seven hits and nothing
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:45:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.51309.22970@ms.uky.edu> jbwell02@nx26.mik.uky.edu (john b wells) writes:
>Hey guys...let me ask you question...a foaf took 2 1/2 hits six days ago.
>that night...he had one of the best visual trips of his life...today...
>he got more of the same shit and took four...nothing.  then he took
>three more...still nothing.  maybe just a little, but he's had better

well, A certain group of FOAFs have empiracly determined that the ideal
resting/recharging period between drops is 2-3 WEEKS!  Its possible that
your FOAF's chemical/mental state was not back down completely from the
trip.

There is something that has to re-balance or re-charge in your brain
(possibly chemical, equally possibly mental) for L to work.  I don't
know what it is, but 3 weeks makes that one tab go its full potential.

Anybody have any details on the timings of the whole bit? I vaguely
remember that all the actual lsd is metabolized or gone from your body
long before the trip even finishes.  But, have there been any studies
that measure the various oil-levels in the great grey motor before,
during and after a trip?

if not, where do I volunteer?


oh, totally forgot, it is also HIGHLY likely that the L was just not
distributed evenly on the blotter.  a FOAF had monster differences in
trips that were only 3-4cm apart!.

--gaspo.


- Scott "gaspo" Gasparian / Dept. Informatik -    |    - Umwelt    -
- Stabstelle Software / System Administrator -  \ | /  -  Schutzen,-
- ETH-Zentrum,  CH-8092 Zurich,  Switzerland -  _\|/_  - Rad       -
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