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From: julian@sdf.lonestar.org (P. Julian Eby)
Subject: Re: Getting Desqview to work.
Summary: Try XDV
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:55:24 GMT

Someone posted a little while ago that they were having trouble getting enough
memory to run DesqView windows with.  Just a reminder that if you want DV to
load itself high, you must run XDV.COM instead of DV.EXE.  The manual 
recommends renaming XDV.COM to DV.COM in order to accomplish this.

DesqView 2.31 (The version I use at the moment) requires approximately 144K
(slightly less actually) of memory in the 0-1024+64 range.  If you can get it
all high, great.  My machine, a poor old XT with a %@&#$)%&$ Intel AboveBoard
(that won't map memory below where it thinks hardware MIGHT be or below its
page frame that requires 64K of room) will only fit about 80K into high ram
and the other 60K goes low.  Still, with VIDRAM that gets me about 535K for
"first window".

Also, if you're using DesqView, get RID of ANSI.SYS!  It's a waste of memory,
since windows requiring ANSI must load DVANSI.COM anyway.  Many of the other
drivers mentioned (except mouse, compression and SmartDrive) can be loaded
inside a DV window when needed, rather than blocking the whole system.  If you
need to have FOSSIL access from more than one window, it's best to load the
FOSSIL before DV, but otherwise you're better off loading it in the window 
with your BBS.  Likewise, scanner and soundblaster TSR's sound like things to
be loaded in individual windows as needed rather than made available to the 
system at large.
From: herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How can I do a mailing-list?
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:34:56 EST

In article <mJeNsB1w165w@valpso.hanse.de>, tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer) writes:
> 
> 1.  how can I do a mailing list with WAFFLE 1.65?

Get VMS, the VmailServer by Rick Vandenberg.  It works fine after Rick
pointed out something I had not noticed/understood in the manual.

It's in a Waffle directory on Halcyon.com, I don't know a site closer
to you but Archie would.

dan
From: kilgore@obelisk.pillar.com (Stan Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple modems?
Date: 11 Oct 92 07:40:52 GMT
Organization: Pillar Communications, Oklahoma City, Ok

system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
> grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean) writes:
> > rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers) writes:
> > >I want to hang 2000 modems off one waffle box (DOS).
> > 
> >  Well folks, Mr. Dell will be retiring on the check for this one so he
> > should have plenty of time for Waffle enhancements... ;-}
> > 
> I've just checked the documentation, and can't see any reference to 
> needing to pay per MODEM, rather than per PROGRAM. (As distinct from a 
> site license with mutiple sites with multiple programs...)


   Matter of fact (without looking) I believe that you are allowed
   to use as many copies of Waffle as you wish as long as you run
   them on one CPU.  Though you think windows is slow with just 
   one copy of Waffle in the background.......

   Kilgore



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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Shroom and Waffle
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 09:41:58 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

elrond@freeside.com (SysAdmin) writes:
>
> system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> 
> > 
> > I recently started using shroom to give myself a bit more space when
> > shelling out of Waffle. 
> > 
> > The problem I've run into is when my new user batch file starts up, or
> > if I shell from remote the last thing that's seen is Shroom's swap message.
> > Then nothing. The system isn't locked up, just no i/o to the modem.
> > 
> > I'm using the following command line:
> > 
> >     shroom -p -s D:\ WAFFLE %1
> > 
> > Anyone else run into this? 
> 
> I have, I've assumed that SHROOM is swapping the code that does the I/O
> redirection out of memory,  I'm currently having shroom swap to disk, although
> I've got plenty of memory to make and use a ramdisk if needed, I haven't tried
> this with a ramdisk, has anyone else here gotten "SHROOMed" applications to
> work remotely?  (That use the waffle I/O redirection, not their own serial
> writes.)

I have! I'm using DOORWAY for any I/O via the modem. It works great and
you can even use programms which write directly to the video ram.

        Hannes

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Berlin                |-------------------------------------------------
Germany               | UUCP:   ...!unido!fub!giraffe.in-berlin.de!jbla
From: hho@aludra.usc.edu ("** N.T.K.C.D. ***")
Subject: Look for Fax/9600 modem
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:16:58 GMT

I am looking for a new high speed modem with FAX  G3 to run waffle
with :_))
As cheap as posible, Fax & UUCP will be sharing the same line :_)

Thanks,

Sysop or dealer program is great :-)
H.

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                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com
From: system@precipice.chi.il.us (Vikki Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: uuto / file transfer problem - help.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:30:53 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Welch Research, McHenry IL, USA

Hi,

  I am having a problem getting files transfered to my system.
Someone is attempting to send me a file via uuto and to date I
have had no luck.  I sent a message out on this about a week or
two ago, but it appears to have gotten lost.

I have the directory specified in the dirs file:

9    /dir="c:/waffle/uploads/receive/vikki/gagme" /deposit

I have the directory in the permits file:

            /upload="c:\waffle\uploads"

Sor far the process has failed and I don't have a clue.  I would
really like to get this working so I can get all the parts to
start putting the Xenix system together (This problem is occuring
on the messydos version I am running in the interum).  The error
messages I have gotten in uulog have been:


05-Oct-92 07:18 gagme      |     ERROR | R ~/receive/vikki/gagme/
07-Oct-92 04:12 gagme      |     ERROR | R ~/receive/system/gagme/
10-Oct-92 00:39 gagme      |     ERROR | R ~/receive/vikki/gagme/
14-Oct-92 07:44 gagme      |     ERROR | R ~/receive/vikki/gagme/

Both paths DO exist...

The error log from uucico looks like this:

(long lines wrapped and indented)
07:44:17.11 (3) receiving "~/receive/vikki/gagme/" as
   "c:\waffle\uploads/receive/vikki/gagme/smail.27.tar.Z"
07:44:17.11 (0) uulog:     ERROR | R ~/receive/vikki/gagme/
07:44:17.38 (0) Cannot create file:
   c:\waffle\uploads/receive/vikki/gagme/smail.27.tar.Z

Either I missed it or the docs aren't real helpful in this
matter.

Thanks for any help here - I am getting desperate <grin>.

Take care, Vikki.
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle 1.65 Enhancement or Bug?
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 06:59:05 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

david@cssnet.UUCP (J. David Schronce) writes:

> magus@brewhau.bison.mb.ca (James Copland) writes:
>
> > Until one time I finished reading my news/mail and logged off at
> > 17 min. past the hour, precisly one min. after I have cron set to
> > poll my hosts.  The logoff proceded to the "Calls: 9999" message
> > but the modem didn't reset.  Then batch cut in and then uucico.
> > The outgoing call gave a "NO CARRIER" message, then reset the
> > modem and connected on the next try.  This happens anytime after
> > 16 mins. after the hour till the next hour.
>
> I HIGHLY recommend a DOS progrsm called ATSEND.  I use it to send
> commands to the modem from the command line.  I include ATSEND H0 at
> the top of RUN.BAT and now I never have that problem....


Another vote for ATSEND. I had the same problem, and I tried everything.
echoing commands to the modem from batch files and other DTR and AT programs
but NOTHING WORKED. Finally, ATSEND16.ZIP came through the line and
it has worked like a charm.

My system (The CyberDen) is a Waffle system and doesnt support ftp, but
if you really gota have it, it's in my files section,
\files\programs\ibm\atsend16.zip

The CyberDen-415-472-5527 (Downloading on first call)
<X>orcist

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From: dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 11 Oct 92 10:03:20 GMT
Organization: I mistook my BBS for a hat

>I have seen it of 5 different computers (2 brand name and 3 clones),
>4 different modems (Hayes, USR DS, Supra v.32bis, clone), several
>different serial cards (with 16450 and 16550).

>MOST of the time I have no problem. But, every once in a while carrier
>will be lost and Waffle will just sit there until it times out due
>to keyboard inactivity. It looks to me like Waffle isn't checking
>carrier often enough.

When waiting for keystrokes, Waffle is constantly checking carrier.
The code to do this is simple, straightforward, and is NOT flawed. If 
your configuration is not reporting a carrier loss, it is NOT 
Waffle's problem. If you're getting this behavior, it is one of the
other components of your system. 

  Most of the time it is the modem, AT&C1 or D1 or something to fix.

  It may be your cables, your serial card, or somesuch.

  It may be some TSR or other program accessing the serial port
  at the same time. (Certainly this is unpredictable behavior.)

  Certain motherboards may cause this problem if jumper 
  configuration is incorrect. (I had a clone with this problem.)

  Certain modems may become confused when call waiting is signalled
  while the modem is connected. They will then lose carrier but fail
  to report the fact.

  Certain modems may wait a few seconds before reporting DCD loss.
  (I have a modem that will sometimes, but not always, wait 2 seconds.)

To my knowledge, never has Waffle been found at fault for 
a DCD problem of this nature. And I don't expect it ever will be.

...Tom

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
From: system@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle Site List Update
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:39:14 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

waffle@mcb.com (Waffle Site List) writes:

> This is the list of site name that will be on the next Waffle Site List as
> of tonight's update. The List will be out Friday, If I don't get flooded.
> Thanks.

You missed cyberden.uucp

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From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple modems?
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:52:47 GMT
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

david@csource.oz.au (david nugent) writes:

> elrond@freeside.com (SysAdmin) writes:
> 
> > Waffle supports multiple line usage in MessyDOS via multiple
> > static files etc.  It is accomplished by running multiple copies
> > of Waffle under DESQview, Windows, or some other multi-tasker
> > Read the DOCS in dos.doc I believe, they explain it rather well.
> 
> Hey, why not do it properly?  If you want to multitask, add another
> processor, and throw the rest of the PC and a network card in for
> good luck. :-)

Hey, why not do it properly?  Throw out MS-DOS and put in a real
operating system, like Unix.  No need to buy expen$ive hardware
(except for more memory and hard disk and...).

   /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@jybox.jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
  /* Phone: +358 41 613 847, BBS: +358 41 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */
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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Utility to Explode Digests?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 00:38:17 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

Richard Caldwell <nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us> writes:

> That is mildly annoying.  Please let us know if anyone lets you
> in on the secret.  Isn't the main thing that the string should be
> unique?

Yeah, it's only supposed to be unique, but I want it to match the Waffle
format. (stamp feet and throw tantrum :-)

> > The digest must be in the standard digest format.  Undigest _is_
> > sensitive to the number of dashes in the article separator line.
> 
> This has caused me a bit of trouble.  Unfortunately most of the
> digests I get do not us the "standard" separator lines.  I can 
> probably hack something with SED to replace their bogus
> separators with the proper kind.  Is there supposed to be any
> difference between the line that seperates the header from the
> first article or are they all the same?

The first one may be long, and undigest takes that into account.  The
rest of them have to be 30 dashes long.

> Thanks again for sharing.

Well, thanks, but I've already got 1 bug report.  Fact is, this has just
been something I used locally, and I didn't spiff it up before foisting
it upon you folks.  I plan to fix some stuff and re-release it this
weekend.
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
          "Does that not fit in with your plans?"
                      -- Mr Wiggen, of Ironside and Malone (Monty Python)
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: How to get UUCP logins to show in CALLERS
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:37:45 GMT+12
Organization: It's Home, really...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

    Two short questions, sorta one really. Waffle 1.65 under MessyDOS...

    1. How do I get UUCP logins to show in the callers log.
    2. How do I get UUCP logins to have time limits enforced.

    The documentation says to set the access to -2 to NOT have calls logged
in callers and NOT have time limits enforced. I've tried setting both the
access and priviledge levels to 9 and the call isn't logged in callers.

    Post or e-mail...

    If you want to have discussions about the appropriateness of what I want
to do then e-mail :-) .

                            Thanks, Liam


--
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                 Don't tell my Mother I'm a programmer,
               she thinks I'm a piano player in a brothel
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WWIV gateway
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 03:01:43 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos) writes:

> zot@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Chris Boebel) writes:
>
> > Whatever became of the wwiv-internet gateway program? I would be
> > interested in helping to test this program..
> >
> > Chris
> >
> there is already one... send mail to 1@502 on WWIVnet for more
> information. there's a little program that will let Waffle be a WWIVnet
> site also...it's called WWCP.

Can someone post the pertinant information, IE, who to contact or how
to get this version of WWIVnet?

<X>orcist

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From: clubzen.fidonet.org!garrett!mwallis
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Mailing list => Newsgroup minor problem
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 09:17:53 PDT
Organization: garrett - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Sunnyvale, CA

eoin@xocolatl.com (John Snyder) writes:

> I'm gating several mailing lists into local newsgroups just fine.
> 
> What I would like to happen is to have local submissions be sent
> to the central address AND be immediately posted to the local
> newsgroup.  

You're doing better than I am. All I get is the headers and no text when I
post from a mailing list.

        8-(

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clubzen.fidonet.org!garrett!mwallis (Michael Wallis)
From: herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Can FEEDS files have multiple entries?
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:25:08 EST

In article <7wicsB2w165w@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz>, system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
> What would be nice is to let down-mail sites be able to specify / change 
> the groups that they want and have the FEEDS file edited automatically. 
> This is something I plan to work on....unless someone else is already 
> doing so, or has done so. Comment?

The proprietor of Clarinet, whose name I can never remember when there
is reason to do so, has a system that does exactly this, in response to
a user subscribing to a newsgroup.

dan
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:3103 alt.config:6159
From: jon%vector0.UUCP@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.bbs.waffle - Has it been rmgrouped yet?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 11:06:28 PDT
Organization: Vector Zero

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> You have the right (again IMHO) to not propagate a.b.w. since it's
> your system, but you don't have the right to force your decisions on
> others.

     No, you have this backwards.  *WE* voted on the charter for
comp.bbs.waffle, which included the "timely" removal of alt.bbs.waffle.
Therefore, you have the right to remove it, but you don't have the
right to propagate it and thus force your decision on others.

But it's alt, so who the hell has control anyway? (<-- rhetorical question)

--Jon

   jon%vector0@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US                Life is like a kiwi.
   PacBell.COM!sactoh0!vector0!jon              DOD #2600
From: efb@slced1.nswses.navy.mil (Everett F Batey)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Old WAFF .. New LANTASTIC and SCSI Disk .. dies in MSW3.1
Summary: New failures .. on add Lantastic, Chg qemm X=, add DTC SCSI
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:50:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PHDNSWC, Port Hueneme, CA

Well Waf 1.63 (though I bought, never installed 1.64) ran fine in MSWin
soon as I upgraded to Win3.1 .. :-))))  Then .. short of disk tried and
deserted Stacker, added 4M Ram, added Lantastic Ethernet ( versions are
V3.. and V4.. components .. NEW), added DTC V5.03 SCSI Ctlr for Maxtor
LXT340S .. the tech who added my disk _fixed up my then existing QEMM
6.01 X=s params a bit .. SCSI had to go in there.

Computer: Mylex 386-25 V6.05c, 8M RAM, RLL 60M + above SCSI Max
OS:       DOS 5.0, QEMM 6.01, MSW 3.1, NDT 2.0, LANTASTIC V3/4
Driv..:   X00 V1.24 (XU reports 16450, probably emulating)

Tried:   Nuking the 386ENH line device=*vcd .. Only lost all Kermit
          in MSW .. 

Waf runs again outside of windows ONLY .. Kermit runs inside .. many
_low_cost_ software: educational , misc ALL CRASH with ILLEGAL INSTRUCT
Violations .. DRWATSON misses these events and only shows start time ..

ALL IDEAS REAL WELCOME .. /Ev .. files avail to anyone willing to help/

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From: Richard Caldwell <nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Utility to Explode Digests?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 08:59:40 GMT
Organization: The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) in
  <1o18RB1w165w@cybrspc.UUCP> writes:
> 
> OK, this is a fast little hack, but it's been doing a good job for me for
> some time.

Many thanks, it appears to work just fine.

> add one for each article.  It will also generate an error log entry for
> each one.  If someone will pass along the secret to making the
> time-dependant string in a Waffle Message-ID field, I'll fix that.

That is mildly annoying.  Please let us know if anyone lets you
in on the secret.  Isn't the main thing that the string should be
unique?

> The digest must be in the standard digest format.  Undigest _is_
> sensitive to the number of dashes in the article separator line.

This has caused me a bit of trouble.  Unfortunately most of the
digests I get do not us the "standard" separator lines.  I can 
probably hack something with SED to replace their bogus
separators with the proper kind.  Is there supposed to be any
difference between the line that seperates the header from the
first article or are they all the same?

Thanks again for sharing.

"Don't drive too slowly."         Richard Caldwell
                                  The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)
                                  {n8emr|nstar}!bluemoon!bsbbs!nrc
                                  nrc@bsbbs.Columbus.OH.US
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: File System Validation
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:09:35 GMT
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:

> In article <3c27RB1w165w@elrond.toppoint.de> freitag@elrond.toppoint.de (Clau
> >crawls@dorsai.com (Charles Rawls) writes:
> >
> >> Ok folks, I'm Stumped
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I have a number of users, that get an error about must be validated to use
> >> area.  All of my users have been validated.  Just went through and did it 
> >> 
> >> Does anyone have any ideas?  Suggestions.
> >> 
> >> I am running waffle 1.65 under Interactive unix 3.0
> >> 
> >
> >Had this in 1.64 when files-directory was empty.
> >Also (in 1.65) if users have not high enough privilege level, that error occ
> >
> 
> I have received complaints of the same behavior and none of the above are the
> culprit.
> 
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
> 45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
> Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
> Systems'n'Software            	FAX:	(510)623-8656 

I had this problem in Waffle 1.64 because I had not created my @access 
file. This is replaced by the dirs. file in Version 1.65. Just on the 
off-chance, you might like to check:
a) that the dirs. file exists
b) that it contains path name to your files areas
c) that your access levels are set with appropriate user privilege 
levels.

Sorry if this is teaching you to suck eggs....

-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
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From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: sdnet.waffle,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: COLORS!
Keywords: Colors
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:26:23 GMT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:
> jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:
> > olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle) writes:
> > 
> > > > system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> > > > > CHART FOR WAFFLE'S COLORS PARAMETER
> > Can somone please send me this chart? I'm interested! :-)
> 
> Looks like an item for the FAQ.

This file is requestable from FTPMail@micromed.com under the name
COLORS.TXT.

Just enter the line "GET COLORS.TXT" in the body of the message.



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