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From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Subject: Re: Bug in talk under A/UX 2.0.1
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:27:00 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: talk bug root

cstruble@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Toaster Strudel) writes:
>This is a followup post about the bug in talk. Actually, after a few more hours
>of searching and frustration, I discovered the problem was in a mangled utmp
>file. Apparently part of another entry for ttyp2 was lying around with root
>as the user currently logged in to the tty, even though this was not the
>case, and programs such as finger and who ignored this entry.  The problem
>is that getlogin() was finding this entry and using it to pull information
>from.

I've seen this happen several times. It's absolutely infuriating. Everything
starts acting weird and it takes forever to figure out what's wrong. Even
worse is when you have a user logged in but not in utmp.

>I find this particularly dangerous in this sense:
>Any program that uses getlogin() to determine user security might be flawed
>if the utmp file becomes mangled. An old, unused utmp entry may be matched to
>the current user's tty and if root happens to be in the information, that user
>may execute a priviledged command.

I'd be very surprised to find that any program used utmp as a security device.
It's unsecure. In fact, in 2.0.1, it defaults to world-writeable, I think.

>Workarounds:
>Remove the utmp file when rebooting. This will clear any chance of carrying
>corrupt utmp files between reboots. Don't use getlogin() to determine the
>current user. Obviously this is going to be difficult for programs that are
>part of the A/UX Standard Distribution, but if you install GNU programs or
>any other programs local to your machine, make sure they do not use getlogin()
>in a way that could cause security problems.

This won't be necessary in 3.0, becuase:

>Cause of corrupt utmp files:
>Any program that may manipulate utmp entries directly. These include but
>are not limited to xterm, screen, and flon. I can't think of any others right
>off hand, but these I know I have used on my system.

...in A/UX 3.0, utmp is _not_ world-writeable, and so it's immune to screwups
by user programs. (Of course, it's possible that the Apple code is buggy and
that it will occasionally corrupt the utmp- if this still happens, you're
theoretically at risk, but I still don't think any software actually uses utmp
for security.)

---
Alexis Rosen
Owner/Sysadmin, PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC.
alexis@panix.com
{cmcl2,apple}!panix!alexis
From: gurney@pacific.cps.msu.edu (Eddy J. Gurney)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Macifications for X11 under A/UX
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:55:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dept. of Computer Engineering, Michigan State University
Originator: gurney@pacific.cps.msu.edu

Well, I just installed X11R5 under A/UX 2.0.1 and everything appears to
work OK (thank you John Coolidge! :-)  Now I have to customize 'twm' for
my 13" monitor... :-( and learn how to use X with a one button mouse!

I haven't been able to locate a document which describes the changes
are necessary to run X on the Mac successfully... you know, how do I
emulate the middle and right buttons?  I assume keyboard modifiers, but
I can't figure out which ones do what (maybe it's because it's almost
2am... ;-)

Anyway, if there is such a document, I would appreciate any info on 
where to obtain it.  If not, a quick-and-dirty synopsis would probably
do just as well!

Thanks and regards,
Eddy

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         and those who did and never thought."     John Charles Salak
From: cstruble@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Toaster Strudel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: 4MB SIMMS in MacII
Summary: Must I get FDHD upgrade
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:39:44 GMT
Organization: Gooey Green-Eyed Frogs

Ok, I just stuck in 4MB SIMMS into my vintage '88 Mac II, and A/UX 2.0.1
recognizes only 8MB while System 7 recognizes the full 20MB I now have.
Do I need to get the FDHD upgrade in order to get A/UX 2.0.1 to recognize
the full 20MB, or is there some bit twiddling I can do in order to get
this to work? Also, if I can't get it to work with A/UX 2.0.1, will it work
fine with A/UX 3.0? Since I may be able to upgrade to 3.0 shortly, and with
much less of a punch to my funds, this may be another option.
	See ya later,
		Craig
-- 
     OOP : When people object to your orientation towards programming...
Craig Struble                            | cstruble@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Consciousness increases development time | cstruble@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
A/UX Hacker Wannabe :-o                  | cstruble@toaster.async.vt.edu (SLIP)
From: pfterry@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: emacs under AUX
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:08:33 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I'm _very_ new to A/UX, and I apologize if this is an faq (though I
didn't see it in the most recent aux faq). I'm trying to get emacs to work. I
downloaded the binaries from wustl, but they seem to want to run as an
X window client. Is this the case?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Fred

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Fred Terry, Kansas Geological Survey
1930 Constant Ave., Lawrence, KS  66047
pfterry@cyberpunk.kgs.ukans.edu
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: senft@bluecrab.az05.bull.com (Craig Senft)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Installing Emacs 18.57
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:34:14 GMT
Distribution: comp.unix.aux
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems

I seem to recall that the Emacs 18.5x makefile had a line in it for both X10 and X11 libraries. and You need to comment out that onethe X10 one.

John Coolidge has, in fact, been posting the binaries on wuarchive.  gcc2.0, emacs, etc are all there. look in systems/aux/gnu for the appropriate tars.
Isn't this on the FAQ?  If not it should be.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: cstruble@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Toaster Strudel)
Subject: Re: Bug in talk under A/UX 2.0.1
Keywords: talk bug root
Organization: Gooey Green-Eyed Frogs
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:12:26 GMT


This is a followup post about the bug in talk. Actually, after a few more hours
of searching and frustration, I discovered the problem was in a mangled utmp
file. Apparently part of another entry for ttyp2 was lying around with root
as the user currently logged in to the tty, even though this was not the
case, and programs such as finger and who ignored this entry.  The problem
is that getlogin() was finding this entry and using it to pull information
from.

I find this particularly dangerous in this sense:
Any program that uses getlogin() to determine user security might be flawed
if the utmp file becomes mangled. An old, unused utmp entry may be matched to
the current user's tty and if root happens to be in the information, that user
may execute a priviledged command.

Workarounds:
Remove the utmp file when rebooting. This will clear any chance of carrying
corrupt utmp files between reboots. Don't use getlogin() to determine the
current user. Obviously this is going to be difficult for programs that are
part of the A/UX Standard Distribution, but if you install GNU programs or
any other programs local to your machine, make sure they do not use getlogin()
in a way that could cause security problems.

Cause of corrupt utmp files:
Any program that may manipulate utmp entries directly. These include but
are not limited to xterm, screen, and flon. I can't think of any others right
off hand, but these I know I have used on my system.

Have a nice day!
	See ya later,
		Craig
-- 
     OOP : When people object to your orientation towards programming...
Craig Struble                            | cstruble@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Consciousness increases development time | cstruble@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
A/UX Hacker Wannabe :-o                  | cstruble@toaster.async.vt.edu (SLIP)
From: evans@cayman.com (Christopher Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Where is 2nd Mac OS Partition?
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:35:37 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.0

If you have a second Mac disk (not your main A/UX disk) and this disk has
2 mac partitions on it, can you get both of them to show up in the A/UX
finder?
I haven't been able to yet....  Any ideas?


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From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: The PowerBook 140-170 and A/UX 2.+ discussion ...
Keywords: A/UX 2.01, PowerBook 140-170
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:37:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: panix.1992Apr6.153745.16006
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

As an owner of a 170 (and desperately looking for an excuse to upgrade to 8MB),
I too am disappointed with A/UX 3.0's inability to run on the 170.

MacMach will run on the PowerBook, but for some tasks (those which tend to
crash processes alot) it's just not convenient.

I wonder if CMU's MacMach will run on the PB170? It's cheap enough..

---
Alexis Rosen
Owner/Sysadmin, PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC.
alexis@panix.com
{cmcl2,apple}!panix!alexis
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert)
Subject: Re: starting X11 server from CommandShell
Reply-To: covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert)
Organization: The Capital Area Central Texas Unix Society
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:11:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.134645.15428@panix.com> spencer@panix.com (David Spencer) writes:
>I installed the XR5 stuff from wuarchive and set DISPLAY and PATH.
>Everything runs fine (although _painfully_ slowly) under MacX and runs
>(quickly, but without mac access) when run as an X11R5 session.
>
>I have two problems:
>
>1. scroll bars only scroll down, not up. I have this problem in every
>X client and under both MacX and X11R5 session.
>
>2. When I try to run xinit or startx from the CommandShell (MacX not
>running), I get
>
>Fatal server error:
>ioctl I_STR VIDEOMAP_SLOT failed
>giving up
>xinit: Connection refused (errno 81): unable to connect to X server
>xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error
>can't ioctl(): invalid argument
>
>I'm a _complete_ X neophyte (pretty newbie at unix generally...). What
>am I missing?


I am getting the same error message when I try to start X11 on my 
Q700 with the last beta of A/UX 3.0.  Does anyuone have an answer for this?


BTW, I have some other A/UX questions:

1) I just bought a cordless mouse called "ZNix" from Media Cosm (advertises
in MacWeek). It requires a cpanel to prorgam the right mouse button. The Znix
cpanel works fine under Sys 7.01 but the icon comes up Xed out when installed
in A/UX. So, it appears that A/UX isn't recognizing the mouse for the cpanel.
Huh?

2) My NEC CDAR36 cd rom player KILLS A/UX. Just attaching it to the SCSI port
on my Q700 keeps my A/UX from booting. I get several lines of pixels but no
other boot indication. And the NEC Driver icon never appears. so, can the NEC
CDART36 be used with A/UX? I have heard not.

3) When the NEC driver is installed in the A/UX "System Folder" I get an unimplemented
trap error and am told to restart holding down the shift key to disable  extensions.
unfortunately, holding the shift key down doesn't appear to disable cfolder
extension on A/UX partitions. I found that I could get a limited A/UX shell by
control-c killing the bootup process. I was then able to 'rm' the NEC driver
from the A/UX 'System Folder' and then reboot A/UX.

4) Any opther gotchas I should be aware of?

-- 
Richard E. Covert                 covert@cactus.org
CACTUS                  ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert
From: spencer@panix.com (David Spencer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: starting X11 server from CommandShell
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:46:45 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I installed the XR5 stuff from wuarchive and set DISPLAY and PATH.
Everything runs fine (although _painfully_ slowly) under MacX and runs
(quickly, but without mac access) when run as an X11R5 session.

I have two problems:

1. scroll bars only scroll down, not up. I have this problem in every
X client and under both MacX and X11R5 session.

2. When I try to run xinit or startx from the CommandShell (MacX not
running), I get

Fatal server error:
ioctl I_STR VIDEOMAP_SLOT failed
giving up
xinit: Connection refused (errno 81): unable to connect to X server
xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error
can't ioctl(): invalid argument

I'm a _complete_ X neophyte (pretty newbie at unix generally...). What
am I missing?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: chgarnett@amherst.edu
Subject: A/UX machine acting as a name server help?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:09:24 GMT

In an effort to make sure that my A/UX machine survives my departure, 
I'm trying to find some task for it that will make it indispensable.
It turns out that we need a secondary name server here at our site,
so that if our primary machine craps out, someone else will pipe up and
say "I know where foo.bar.ustate.edu is!" This machine also should be
completely independent of our main system, a DEC VAX, as well. Sounds
like a PERFECT use for a little AUX machine sitting in a corner, doesn't
it? :)

The problem is this: I have absolutely NO idea how I'd set up my system
to be a real honest-to-god name server. It's not a question of having
some huge equivalency table someplace the way BITnet does routing...the
VAX gets its information from a couple of known and trusted name servers
deep inside the Internet. Being a UNIX weakling, I'm not even sure where
I'd start looking for this in the manuals.

Does anyone out there know how to do this? Or know for sure that it 
can't be done? I'd really like to ensure that the Mac running A/UX doesn't
suddenly become someone's word processor after I go back to school this
fall, and this seems like an IDEAL way to prevent it...our name server
crapped out yesterday and it immediately became obvious that we HAD to
have a reliable backup for it.

Thanks!
-Craig

chgarnett@amherst.edu
craig@aux1.amherst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: lueger@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Thomas Lueger)
Subject: aux.support.apple.com
Originator: lueger@hphalle9d.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:23:09 GMT



Greetings to you all,


sorry if this is a silly question - 


connected to ftp server aux.support.apple.com today.

i found nothing on it, not one file or directory.
i tried to get them ordinarily with 'ls' or 'ls -al'.

although there seemed to be a dir 'bin' it also seemed to be empty.


tried to connect from a sun workstation, not an a/ux machine
(no internet at my mac)


many thanks in advance


Thomas Lueger

Munich University of Technology / Germany
Department of Computer Science

LUEGER@INFORMATIK.TU-MUENCHEN.DE
From: mhend@finmaster.xsquare.roch.xerox.com (Marissa Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: A/UX 3.0 Price List
Keywords: A/UX 3.0
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:20:14 GMT
Reply-To: mhend@finmaster.xsquare.roch.xerox.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


Could someone post the new A/UX 3.0 Price List?


Thanks,

Marissa Henderson
Systems Analyst 
Xerox Corporation
MHEND.ROCH@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: fg040@unocss.unomaha.edu (Dave Manning)
Subject: Re: The PowerBook 140-170 and A/UX 2.+ discussion ...
Keywords: A/UX 2.01, PowerBook 140-170
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1992 05:44:24 GMT

liam@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (William Roberts) writes:

>In <1992Apr3.012237.27523@news2.cis.umn.edu> pdills@herring.micro.umn.edu 
>(Peter in Amiland) writes:

>>Could someone (maybe Apple) explain the difference bewteen the 68030 PB
>>and the 68030 SE/30 or IIci (other than size), and what SW won't run on
>>the PowerBooks?
>>It sounds like somthing major (HW) was "passed up" in the name of
>>space conservation. 

>Rumour has it that the PowerBook could run A/UX if someone did the appropriate 
>screen definitions (maybe 1 man week?) - no hardware is missing, but the lack 
>of an Ethernet interface for the PB was thought to make it unlikely that 
>people would want A/UX for it: after all, A/UX is just a connectivity 
>product... :-(

>On the other hand, to do A/UX properly for the PowerBook you'd really want to 
>look at the battery management stuff and the strategies for powering off the 
>disk: these aren't generally going to work so well in a UNIX environment.

>My general recommendation to Apple would be: ensure that you produce a version 
>of A/UX for every "A/UX-capable" machine, however unlikely it may seem. You 
>don't yet know what makes the UNIX market tick, and nobody knows what makes 
>the A/UX market do anything at all!
>--

>% William Roberts                 Internet:  liam@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
>% Computer Science Department     
>% Queen Mary & Westfield College  UUCP:      liam@qmw-dcs.UUCP
>% Mile End Road                   Telephone: +44 71 975 5234

Maybe I'm wrong, but when I installed A/UX 3.0b, it specifically wanted to
know where my floating-point unit was (and, at the time, it was on my desk
and not in my Mac :-). I think this would be a major hardware problem,
although the battery management angle is a good one too; I thought this
was the case with A/UX 2 also. 

^^^^^^^^^^^>Dave Manning
	    University of Nebraska @ Omaha<^^^^^^^^^fg040@unocss.unomaha.edu
From: tjferrar@mcs.drexel.edu (J 'have a jet ski' Ferrara)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: A/UX Terminal Server for MacOS/AppleTalk Clients?
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:38:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Drexel University

In article <1992Apr13.010427.1718@acsu.buffalo.edu> yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.201654.15827@reed.edu> barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith) writes:
>>
>>We would like to use our Macs and AppleTalk network to access our A/UX
>>system, but "usually reliable sources" tell me that terminal access/servers
>>don't work over AppleTalk, only over Ethernet.
>>
>>If this is NOT true, and AppleTalk access IS available (free or commercial),
>>I would appreciate pointers to specific software/suppliers.  Thanks!
>>
>
>Therefore, there is no way to access A/UX service through 
>AppleTalk.
>

Isn't there a French company that sells software to do this?


Jason Ferrara
Moberg Medical Inc.
From: shawng@cup.portal.com (R Shawn Goodin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: A/UX 3.0 Shipping
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 22:20:00 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Well folks, as of April 16th, A/UX 3.0 is finally shipping.  A quick glance at
the price list seems to indicate that the prices aren't too bad....
 
If you already have a previous version of A/UX, Apple recommends that you get
the A/UX 3.0 Update Product CD-ROM.  Retail is $245 (your mileage may vary).
 
Update sets for the manuals are also available....I'll try to answer any price
questions if I can.  I snagged the price list and info from my local rep.

shawng@pro-charlotte.cts.com
shawng@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: pst@cisco.com (Paul S. Traina)
Subject: Re: named from A/UX 2.01
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:39:57 GMT

>I re-did my resolver lib with bind 4.8.3 and am not seeing any problems.
>Of course I don't run named on the machine, but my machine does
>use alot of HESIOD call.

No, the resolver code is working fine, I'm just getting really strange
problems with named, and I can't seem to reproduce them unless I start
named from inittab.  Basicly, I'm getting spurious responses from the
select/accept code with the error message "Socket operation on
non-socket".  When I start up my new named from the shell (/bin/sh,
compat flags 0x403), it works just fine.
--
Our apparent freedom to do whatever we like shows how whatever we choose
serves the economy.	-- Raoul Vaneigem, _The Book of Pleasures_
From: meyerm@hp700.trg.saic.com (Michael Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Differences in MacX on A/UX and MacOS??
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:00:53 GMT
Reply-To: meyerm@hp700.trg.saic.com
Organization: Science Applications International Corp.

Does anyone know the details of the differences between MacX as it
is shipped for the MacOS, and the version bundled with A/UX.  I had
a friend who tried to install the A/UX version on his MacOS machine,
but couldn't get it to work (something about the Communications Toolbox
missing, I think).

Any ideas on how I could get it to work under a System 6.07 MacIIci?
Are there certain other files I need from the A/UX distribution?

Thanks in advance,
-- Mike

___________________________________________________________________________
Michael S. Meyer                             meyerm@hp700.trg.saic.com
Technology Research Group                               619-546-6097  voice
Science Applications International Corporation          619-546-6777    fax
San Diego, CA
___________________________________________________________________________
From: P88038@BARILVM.BITNET (Noam G. Nudelman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Wanted: FAQ list for A/UX 3
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:03:28 GMT
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel

I think subject line says it all ...... (We just installed it this week).

          Thanks,
                     Noam.
From: lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Trying to make A/UX know about a gateway/router. Help!
Date: 7 Apr 1992 14:54:24 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes)
NNTP-Posting-Host: alshain.usc.edu
Keywords: gateways



But will that insert the gateway address into MacTCP so that Mac apps can also send packets out that gateway?

P.S. I've asked this question on the net three times & never got an answer.


Lance Kimes
USC


Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Uncompressing on A/UX 2.x
Originator: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: comp.unix.aux
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:22:34 GMT

-101.mit.edu> reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner) writes:

   I then download (using ZTerm 0.9) the file down to the IIfx. ZTerm
   correctly downloads the file as a binary, and puts it in my A/UX
   partition.

   But when I try to uncompress the downloaded file, uncompress tells me
   that it's "not in compressed format."

   Is A/UX uncompress buggy? Should I be doing something differently when
   downloading?

Your fault: core dumped.

:-)

ZTerm is a Mac application, and creates files in AppleSingle or
AppleDouble format. What you have to do is use fcnvt(1) to get
the file into data-fork-only format. Check the man pages for
file(1) and fcnvt(1) for more info.

-- 
h+@nada.kth.se; Jon W{tte, the Diplomat - NOT!