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From: jeff@fang.clearpoint.com (Jeffrey J. Griglack)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 command shells
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:51:06 GMT
Reply-To: jeff@fang.clearpoint.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: /home/jeff/.organization


Has anybody thought to port BASH (GNU's Bourne Again SHell)?
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From: george@hub.cs.jmu.edu (george galang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:53:26 GMT
Organization: James Madison University

sarnold@bgsu.edu (G. Steve Arnold) writes:
: 	I don't wish to get involved in the OS/2 vs. WIN stuff. I use 
: Win 3 now, will consider OS/2 when released. I'm just wondering what
: planet you took your CS classes on.
: 
: 
: steve

Plante of the apes?  :)

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From: f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Upgrade with foregin Windows manual
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:45:43 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

I am a very interested in the IBM's upgrade policy for OS/2 2.0 in US, but
as such a procedure (or any similar procedure, for that matter) is not 
available here in Finland, I would like to enquire whether it is possible
to get the upgrade with the Finnish version of Windows 3 (I can send the
first page and the registration card, but I'd rather keep the installation
disks to myself). I should point out that a friend of mine in Philadelphia
has agreed to do this for me, so no overseas mailing would be required by
IBM (I suppose that overseas customers will be serviced after domestic 
market has been successfully covered). 

Please post the answer to this newsgroup also, as there are probably
several others beside me considering this route.

Samu Mielonen, University of Tampere, FINLAND



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From: rshelley@riscy.simplot.com (Robert Shelley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Requestor --> $200!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:28:50 GMT
Organization: J. R. Simplot Co., Boise Id.

It is my understanding that Lan requester is included, I believe
that it is Lan SERVER that is $200.
Robert
From: davidh@towers.rn.com (David Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 on 386SX 16MHz?
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:39:21 GMT
Organization: Small System Specialists

Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET> writes:

>I am writing this on a such machine - this is a Model 55SX with 4MB,
>and 16 miserable megahurts (!). I have two DOS windows open now, one
>OS/2 window is my VM-to-IP postscript-printer-deamon which sits
>and wakes up every minute to check for things to get printed, and
>everything runs great. With 4MB, expect a swap file of about 6MB on

It does??? How?  I'm running a 486/33 with only 4Megs of RAM, and 
as far as I'm concerned its un-usable. Its just a basic clone 486/33
Paradise VGA, and 200 Meg IDE drive. And the fool thing spends so much
time swapping, that I can get it to tell me that apps aren't responding
to the system fairly consitantly with control-esc. 

Actually, my 286-12 with 4Megs was considerably more "usable" under
1.3 than 2.0 is on a 486-33 with 4Megs. 

Any suggestions?  - Don't get me wrong here, I think OS/2 2.0 just
might be the next best thing to sliced bread :) however, you've
gotta have some fairly large hardware behind it.

>a lightly loaded machine.  -turgut 

David Holland
davidh@towers.rn.com
From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico de Vries.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Borland C++ for OS/2 v.2.0
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:11:54 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

In <880506s.703264836@aucs> 880506s@aucs.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner) writes:

>sidney@borland.com (Sidney Markowitz) writes:

>>asking for things like cross-platform development options. One thing I
>>wonder is, is there any reason to have a PM IDE that generates Windows
>>executables if you can instead have a Windows or DOS compiler that
>>runs in a VDM and can use the same project or make files as the PM
>>version? I'm not hinting at any plans, I'm simply asking for

>Nope I don't think we need a PM IDE that generates Windows executables
>(it would be nice but since the compiler already exist to do this why
>duplicate it?  It would also probably increase the cost.)  All we need 
>is an PM IDE that generates PM, WPS and text programs.

>Anybody disagree?
No. I fully agree. I do want to add Borland should NOT repeat the TV->OWL
problems. Its should be possible to create at least a base class which
is common to TV, OWL and OWLOS2 (or whatever they call it). Currently it
is quite annoying that TV and OWL cant share code.
I understand that there are special features that need special handling
but as long as the base class covering the stuff which does NOT differ is
the saem I am hapy already!

>James R. Skinner                       Acadia University, Wolfville, NS, Canada

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From: B306492@vmtecqro.qro.itesm.mx (Luis Humberto Morin Vergara)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Two Questions?
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:57:48 GMT
Organization: Monterrey Institute of Technology, Queretaro Campus

I have two questions.
But first wome background.
I have a Hp 386sx 16mhz with 5 mb   of memory and an old 40 mb hard disk
So I have to change my hardrive.
now the questions.
1.- As I am going to change Hard drive and controles . Could some one recommend
 a combination of hard drive and controler.  I would also like to hear comments
about a  hardcard?
 
2.- I dont have a math coprocesor, how much would it improve the performance ad
ding the coprocesor?
 
 
Finaly anyother suggestion I can only expend about 1000 dollars.
Any help is appreciated.
Luis H. Morin
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jmwells@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Speeding up Foreground App
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:50:30 GMT

Hello fellow OS/2's,

I just installed GA on my system this weekend, 386SX 20, 6 meg Ram.  I would
like to note that the install went without a hitch.  I am suprised by all the
complaints about speed, 2.0 no my system is running just as Win 3.0 did in
enhanced mode, so I am very happy with performance.  Now to my question?

How can I set priority on a DOS window, or fullscreen, so that it gets more CPU
time that sessions running in the background.  I currently do a lot of
downloading, which I like to do in the background, while doing the download, I
like to run another app in the foreground.  How do I set the session so that
the session in the foreground gets more of the CPU time than the session in the 
background?

Thank you for all your help.

Jason M. Wells
JMWELLS@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
From: etl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ERIC TODD LANDRIEU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS and Memory
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:39:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <18828@bach.udel.edu>, swyatt@bach.udel.edu (Stephen L Wyatt) writes:
>Just to note-- all of you 386 users out there that have only 4 megs in a
>machine that can handle 8 (like me), I've seen prices for 1megX9 SIMM memory
>for $49... thats less than $200 for another 4 megs, which is very good if you
>are seriously considering using OS/2 2.0.
>
Actually, you can get it for a bit less than that.  Check Computer Shopper for
places that sell 1MX9 SIMMS for much less.  For instance, I recently payed $39
per SIMM for 1MX9 70 ns SIMMs from Warehouse 54.  My only complaint is that
they didn't give me the option of what type of shipping, and I had to
automatically pay $16 for FexEx std overnight(still, I couln't find a price
that could match it, and the SIMMs work great).  Now all I need is my
OS/2(ordered 10 days ago)...
                                   Eric Landrieu

                                   
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Cant I write to harddisk in Booted DOS window ?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:20:42 GMT

In article <ulf.34.703407566@dc.luth.se> ulf@dc.luth.se (Ulf Ruthberg) writes:
>Maybe I am missing something, but I cant write to the C: drive,
>if I boot a DOS-window.
>Should it be like this, if so whats the use of booting DOS in a window?

RTFM: The Installation Guide goes over what is needed here.  So does
the online help.

You must load the device driver FSFILTER.SYS, provided in \OS2\MDOS,
as the first device in CONFIG.SYS.  COPY this file over to your boot
disk on A:, modify the CONFIG.SYS on that boot disk, adding
DEVICE=A:\FSFILTER.SYS as the first line, and then boot into the VM.
-- 
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Subject: Re: Whoops... bad driver in CONFIG.SYS
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:35:12 GMT

From article <prao.703451410@hcfmail>, by prao@ucsb.edu (Parik Rao):
> I've done a bad thing. :-)  I was fooling around with the OS/2 v2.0 requester,
> and since they didn't have the driver for the card installed (Cabletron)
> I tried a driver I had in my archives (apparently for OS/2 v1.3).  Well,
> to make a long story short, the machine crashes hard when the system boots.
> Is there ANY way to get back in to edit config.sys?  Or must I <shudder>
> re-install OS/2 from scratch?  I never created a bootable floppy (is
> that possible?) and the whole drive is on HPFS...

I personally write a lot of device drivers for OS/2 and have come up against
this 'problem' quite a bit when I haven't satisfactorily debugged my code.  
No, you don't have to reinstall OS/2 from scratch.  Here's the solution.
All you have to do is start running the Installation program and press
ESC at the 'start' to get an OS/2 full-screen session so you can delete/
rename files.

Place the OS/2 Installation disk in your boot drive & start up the computer.  
After a short period of disk activity the blue IBM screen will display &
it will ask you to insert Disk 1.  Insert Disk 1 :)  Then when the prompt
comes up after some more disk activity, press the ESC key.  This will
place you in an OS/2 full-screen session.  Now you can rename/delete the
offending device driver.  It may give you are error if you try to access
an HPFS partition/drive that has 'allocation' errors..if so, run CHKDSK
on the drive (just type it in at the prompt with the drive name after)
and it will fix the allocation errors so you can access the drive.  
You can reboot your system (with ALT+CTRL+DEL) to start OS/2...when the
system hits the line calling the bad driver, it will give you an error
message saying that it cannot be found (I wonder why) and that you should
press ENTER.  Press the ENTER key and OS/2 should boot up as normal.  You
should edit your CONFIG.SYS file and erase the line calling that driver.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr)
Subject: Re: ATM and OS/2 GA
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 12:35:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.033248.21580@athena.mit.edu> reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey Villarreal) writes:
>
>Okay short and simple. How do I use ATM with both my Windows and OS/2
>programs. HOw do I install the fonts. Where do they go? Which files do
>I need(.PFM .AFM .PFB). I have scaned my hard drive for *.afm *.pfb
>*.PFM files and have not seen them so I assume that they are not
>installed during the regular installation.

At the Charlottesville Roll-out I asked the very same question.  The
demo person implied that if you have all three files on the disk, the
OS/2 ATM Font installer will install both the windows and the OS/2
fonts,  I for one haven't tried it but it sure would make it easier.

>
>Also:
>
>Why is my mouse movement so jerky in WinOS2 sessions in fullscreen?
>

Change the video_retrace_emulation (I think) to whatever setting is NOT
currently selected.

>Why wont my system recognize a printer is attached if its output is
>being redirected to a file?
>

I'd like to hear an answer to this too since I need to generate
postscript files for printing at a remote site.

>By the Way the is a rumor that OS/2 will not ship until May 1 to 
>those who ordered on the phone. The rumor came from PRODIGY.

Yes and no.  The "official" release date of March 31 was met by
electronic distribution.  However, the shrinkwrap copies aren't
scheduled to begin shipping to the folks who ordered them (or got them
through the Comdex Announcement freebie forms) until April 15th.  I went
to the Charlottesville roll-out and a friend to mine won a copy.  He
doesn't have the machine to run it yet so he was kind enough to lend it
to me till my freebie copy shows up (THANKS WADE!).

	-Phil
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From: jwbutler@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (J.W.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: FREE OS/2 at COMDEX!!!!
Summary: IBM gives away free copies of OS/2 2.0
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:06:02 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

For those of you that can attend COMDEX & WINDOWS WORLD at McCormick Place in
Chicago, GO!!!! IBM is giving away free copies of OS/2 2.0 to random attendees
at the show.

What to do: 	Go to the IBM OS/2 Showcase and get a free IBM bag.
		Walk around the exhibit until you see a spotter giving out cards
		 for free copies of OS/2, or get stopped by a spotter.

		VOILA!! FREE OS/2!!!!!

BTW: having taken in the entire show in one day, GET THERE EARLY!!! Plan on a 
lot of walking, the exhibits are in two different pavilions (Comdex- East Hall,
Windows World - North Hall).

FYI: Comdex runs until April 9th; 10a-5p 4/7-8, 10a-4p 4/9.

Joe


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller)
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 2.0 faster than Windows??
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:40:20 GMT

In article <9204130146.AA15116@data.src.honeywell.com> bergstro@src.honeywell.com (Pete Bergstrom) writes:
>>PS/2 MCA vs 386 ISA;
>>Math co-processor vs none;(since Windows is designed for device indep, I would
>>                           think it uses floating point calculation for device
>>                           coordinates.  Think about why QuickDraw on the Mac
>>                           is so fast, because it limits to +/-32k for screen
>>                           coordinates and uses integer only)
>
>I don't believe there is a window system in existence today that uses
>floating point.  Using 32 bit integers and/or fixed point, you can
>cover just about any situation.  (2^32 is +/- 2 billion, plenty small
>enough for most devices around today).

Windows uses a 16-bit (65,000 addressible points) scheme.  OS/2 uses a
32-bit (2,000,000,000 addressible points) scheme.  Neither uses floating
point in the engine, though the applications might.  In addition, the 32-bit
scheme in OS/2 doesn't take any more time, because it does the calculations
in 32-bit mode.

-Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: johnsd2@vccsouth09.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: OS/2 and Graphics question
Keywords: OS/2, Graphics, palettes
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:10:26 GMT

Hello all. I've been having a little email conversation
with a John Kim wherein I asked him if OS/2 allocated all
256 colors from a 256 color video card, and after getting into
a horrible snarl about what a pallette was (I meant what the
video card has) it came down to:

> > [this is Me]
> > 
> > What are these colors? Are these teh colors you drop onto the 
> > windows/whatever? If so, it probably has nothing to do with the 
> > color table. To see the difference I was talking about you'd need 
> > to go to 256 colors (sure you cant do 320x200 at 256 colors?)
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>[this is John]
>You left out a smiley face, right?

>Why don't you post this question to comp.os.os2.misc?  It's a good
>question and another bone of contention between OS/2 and Windows.

So I here I am, but with 2 questions:

1) What's this bone of contention he is talking about?
   Is it related to my not putting in a smiley face? :)
2) If OS/2 is running on a card set to 256 colors, does it
   allocate all of the colors and then let apps change them
   (like MacOS)
   or just a few (oh say 20) of the colors and let apps add
   colors (like Windows)
   or some other thing?

And if this isn't an appropriate question for this newsgroup,
BLAME JOHN! HE DID IT! IT'S _HIS_ FAULT! :)
-- 
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From: n9046319@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu (Jeremy Corley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Offline Mail Reader for OS/2
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:07:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: waldorf.n9046319.702601666
Organization: Western Washington University

tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:

>In article <69813@ut-emx.uucp>, mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal) writes...
>>Hello.  Does anyone know of any commercial or shareware software that will
>>allow one to read mail from BBS' offline?  I am currently using SLMR for
>>DOS, but I would like to switch to an OS/2 program.  Also, I was wondering
>>if anyone has heard of Robocomm, and if they know whether their is an OS/2
>>program like it.  Robocomm lets you specify a time and it will call any bbs
>>or bbs' for you and do whatever you tell it to do and then logoff.  Very
>>good for uploading and downloading mail packets at bbs' in the dead of 
>>night.  Espescially boards that are long distance.  Thanks

> I know that PMQWT is now available as shareware, this should do what you
>want in the way of a offline mail packet reader.  I don't know if there is
>a specific program for PM yet but I know that Bluewave will do what you 
>want robocomm to do, either way you could run them in a dos box and have
>them do whatever you want.  PMQWT by the way is written by Brady Flowers
>the same guy who wrote TE/2. 
>_________________________________________________
>                         |                       |
>Tony Frey                |  I love OS/2!!        |
>Texas A&M University     |                       |
>TCF9033@VENUS.TAMU.EDU   |  It's what Windows    |    
>                         |  should have been!    |   
>_________________________|_______________________|

	Great!! Where is an ftp site I can get it at?!?

				J. Corley
		n9046319@henson.cc.wwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey Villarreal)
Subject: Tseng SVGA drivers
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:30:53 GMT


Where can I get SVGA drivers for my Diamond Speedstar Plus. I heard
Tseng had posted them to their BBS. ANyone have the number.
From: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 news in 4-7 WSJ
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:28:25 GMT
Reply-To: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: mo@happy.cc.utexas.edu

I just noticed a little OS/2 news in todays WSJ.  Their was a little note that
said IBM has signed a deal with Time to be the sole sponsor of a special issue
of TIME coming out in September.  The OS war will be in full swing and I'm sure
that their will be some OS/2 ads, and WordPerfect has 3 full page ads.  The
first saying they are sticking with DOS, the 2nd saying they are moving to
Windows, and the 3rd saying they are ready for OS/2.  Each page has a quote and
the OS/2 one is that OS/2 will blow the doors of the industry, it is a clean
sheet of paper, not a thing on top of a thing, like Windows.
From: chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Manuals with OS/2 V.2 as shipped.
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:43:16 GMT
Organization: SCS/Compute, Inc.

>gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM writes...
> 
>Online pubs make the product cheaper, printed pubs cost $$$ for paper, print
>services, typesetting,...
> 
>So, what's the best, who knows.  Maybe online pubs that customers can print?
>Or online pubs and charge extra if you want printed pubs ??
> 
>Any comments ?

Personally, I think it's aboslutly essential for a systems product (like a
compiler or operating system) to come with printed manuals. I was so upset
when I got my Microsloth C 6.0 upgrade that I called and got angy with
a support rep and wrote them nasty mail. 

Hypertext docs are fun when you need to find some specific piece of information
and don't feel like getting up to go manual hunting. I use the MSC quick
help for that all the time. But when you have to sit down and actually 
research something (as in "hmm.. what can I do with this REXX thing.."),
Hypertext is fairly close to useless, IMHO. For research like that, I need
to get up, have a cup of coffee, mumble in the halls carrying a manual,
sit on the couch watching the Simpsons, reading a few pages during commercials,
etc.

If IBM does decide to ship product without printed manuals, I would urge
them to commit themselves to making printed manuals available as quickly
and inexpensivly as humanly possible. If I go out and OS/2 3.0 knowing it's
not going to have printed manuals, fine.. but if I have to wait another
4 to 6 weeks before I can can get them, and have to pay $50 a book, well 
that's getting a little out of hand.

Chris
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