HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Live Online Conference re: US Elections
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 12:07:54 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

greenie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:

> I'm posting this message for the Conference Hosts;
[...]
> The first discussion will take place on September 4th from 7PM EST until
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And, from the header:

> Date: 7 Sep 92 01:43:18 GMT

Hokay, fine.  Damn shame, too.  I would have liked to check this out.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: fletcher@netcom.com (F. Sullivan Segal)
Subject: Re: Berkley, CA area 415 Mail/Usenet Wanted
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:18:21 GMT
Organization:  bottom up!
Distribution: ca
Keywords: help access

In article <ikg4qB1w164w@arghouse.UUCP> jdavis@arghouse.UUCP (James) writes:
>Am looking for Berkley, CA access for free or low cost in
>phone area 415-843-XXX.  Thanks!
>
>------------------
>The Listening Post, San Diego, CA, USA  +1 619 563 1084
>Opinions expressed are those of jdavis@arghouse.uucp.

Berkeley is 510.  Check out 'netcom.com'.  You can get a list of services
by telnetting to netcom.com and logging in as 'guest'.


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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: chungy2@aix.rpi.edu (Yau Felix Chung)
Subject: Internet to Merck
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:46:36 GMT


Hello all!.....A friend of mine heard the rumor that Merck will have
an Internet node soon.....could someone confirm that?

Thanks

-F.
.
From: dbp@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Internet Dial up in Virginia
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:09:44 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

Does anyone know of dial-up numbers for an internet connection
in Richmond, Virginia Beach, Charlottesville or any other
site in Virginia (such as Virginia Tech in Blacksburg)? 
Thanks in advance. Please E-mail if you know if any.
 
-----------------------------------------------------------
David Perrussel  -  Penn State University  Elec. Eng. Student
dbp@ecl.psu.edu     bg656@cleveland.freenet.edu  dbp@eclu.psu.edu
Those who are able but do not make decisions for themselves are
only useless burdens on our society - DBP 9/92
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: evc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Edward Van Cura)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Computer Access in San Antonio, TX?
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:36:06 GMT

Greetings!

The title says it all. I am looking for computer access 
in San Antonio, Texas. I am looking for E-Mail, newsgroups,
and perhaps internet access. A Pay-Service is fine.

Thanks,
Thorfinn Einarsson
From: tracer@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Access
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:00:23 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

Help!  I'm in need of an Internet connection in Georgia.  I really need 
FTP and IRC capabilites.  If anyone knows of a free site (yeah sure).  Or 
somewhere with cheap access, please leave me mail at: tracer@willard.UUCP

-- 
tracer@willard.UUCP (Tracer)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: jdavis@arghouse.UUCP (James)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: What is lowest $ access for individual
Keywords: access internet 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:02:23 PDT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Listening Post

What is the least expensive way for an individual to gain full
internet access (assuming they don't already have it through
an ed or commerical institution)?

I am in San Diego, CA area. 619

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Opinions expressed are those of jdavis@arghouse.uucp.
From: newwave@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: a BBS gateway to internet
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:54:05 GMT
Organization: Wright State University

In article <Bu6zJJ.2Aw@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, njoddson@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Nick Oddson) writes:
> Hi,
>   I'm looking for information on how to go about getting a connection to
> internet (or fidonet or whatever) from a BBS... the costs involved, the 
> maintenance required, what I have to do to set it up, and the like.  The
> BBS is in the area code 807 (Northwestern Ontario, Canada) in a remote
> town with now educational facilities (except a small division of Lakehead)
> 
> Is this a feasible idea, I only really want to be able to have the BBS users
> send email to the internet, but ideally I suppose some news, ftp sites or such
> would also be useful.
> 
> I've seen some local (and LD) boards that have a fidonet connection, and I
> guess it can't be all THAT expensive...
>  
> Any information welcome - contact me email @ njoddson@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> -- 
> --
> Nick Oddson -- University of Waterloo - Canada

  It appears that currently you have access to internet via the account you
posted this from.  Heard of PORTAL?  It appears to be the best way to get
yourself on the internet to send email.  They are an online communication 
service.  It costs about 13.95/month unlimited access.  The only catch is that
you are going to need a carrier.  For a carrier I suggest TELENET.  It turns
out pretty reasonable during non-peak hours.  They also have telnet access.
If you have access to telnet via your current account you can ftp to its site
and save carrier charges which cost about 2.50/hr (non-peak) or something 
around that figure.  I have an account on portal because my site from where
I am answering this does not have access to the entire selection of newsgroups
under usenet.

Cheers...
Xref: sparky alt.bbs:5894 comp.bbs.misc:933 comp.misc:3676
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:35:02 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German) writes:

>	JOHN!!! and anyone else involved in this.... DO YOU MIND!!!!!
>Take it to EMAIL for god's sake! If you want to argue about it please do
>not involve the rest of us. If you want to have more then one person argue
>create a mailing list for BOGUS NIXPUB POSTING I for one (and I am sure
>about 100 or so other people do not want to hear this Bull anymore.

Well!  You COULD do like a few of the other SIPs (self-important People)
have done and use your kill file.  Or you COULD simply not post.  After 
all, this issue had died down for at least a week when you popped up to 
complain again.

John
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Dialing out question with a LD phone card service
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:31:47 GMT

In article <BuCAux.G5B@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> trwagner@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ted Wagner) writes:
>	In the dorms, we have a calling card ID number
>which we have to dial in order to call LongDistance.  My question
>is this....How in the H (e (double hockey sticks)), do you place
>the LD ID number into the calling sequence?

It's OK to say "hell", your mother probably doesn't read Usenet. :)

>	IS there a program for the modem that allows for LD
>ID numbers...and works?  I have had great luck with Procomm on a 
>local level.  But, I would love to get outside of this calling
>area.

Just about all of the decent ones do... in Telix, you can define a
dialing prefix with Alt-O:

prefix 1:   ATDT
prefix 2:   ATDT yourcodehere,

then tell the dialer to use that prefix... most of the other terminal
programs should have a similar feature.
-- 
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 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: varney@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (Al Varney)
Subject: Re: TBBS is very limited
Organization: AT&T Network Systems, Lisle, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:52:46 GMT

In article <98.22624@uonline.com> rjus@uonline.com (ren_just) writes:
>
>Larry, you keep mentioning expensive price.  Yeah, you are correct that the
>base TBBS/TDBS product isn't the cheapest thing around.  But, let's start talking about the support down the road and how much it costs.  How much did you
>spend for you last UNIX upgrade?  Or better yet, how much are you paying
>for technical support of your UNIX system?  All of those wonderful add-on
>products you are referring to cost money as well.  
> ...
>To reiterate, the corporations I deal with want a functioning, reliable
>system with a company that can support it with reliability.  TBBS and
>TDBS supply this.  You might want to see what bulletin board systems
>are being used by software vendors to support their product.  To be
>honest, I haven't seen a single software vendor (outside of SCO) using
>a UNIX system to support their product.  Many of the bigger software
>vendors are using TBBS and it must be for good reasons. 

   It would be inappropriate for me to discuss the price of UNIX<tm>
upgrades and support -- I don't work for a 'UNIX'-vending part of the
company.  Let me assure you that AT&T and it's miriad parts use UNIX
systems to support their products (and lots of other systems as well).
And a BBS is certainly a minor part of the support our customers expect.

   But maybe we aren't "software vendors"?

Al Varney
From: trevor@Software.Mitel.COM (Trevor Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Wanted: BBS info
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:03:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


  I used to run a C64 board a few years ago and I'm now considering putting
up an IBM BBS.  I would appreciate it if anyone could let me know which are
the best IBM BBS programs to run.  Any replies would be appreciated.

                                            Trevor 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
From: jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu ()
Subject: Re: Coherent Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Organization: Temple University EE Dept.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:48:10 GMT
X-Posted-From: moe.eng.temple.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <HewDqB5w165w@pinetree.org> pjlahaie@pinetree.org (Paul JY Lahaie) writes:
>jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu () writes:
>> Whoa! Linux is NOT  Unix!
>[stuff deleted]
>    Well if people considered Coherent3 Unix, I would certainly consider 
>Linux Unix.  By your own words, DR DOS, or VM/386 aren't DOS.  They 
>aren't MsDos fine, but they are still DOS.  Linux isn't AT&T Unix, but 
>it's Unix.
>  Internet: pjlahaie@pinetree.org (Paul JY Lahaie)
>  UUCP: pinetree!pjlahaie
>  Gordon's Pinetree -- Ottawa, ON, Canada -- +1 613 526 0702 -- v.32bis/v.42bis
>
*bzzzt!* AT&T/USL owns Unix- just ask MIT, CMU, and BSDI. What people
*think* it is doesn't matter as long as someone owns a name and vigourously
defends that ownership. Cannon doesn't sell xerox machines, they sell
copiers. Linux must not be confused with a commercial product if it is to
remain free.
ps. It is a shame that IBM didn't trademark DOS, isn't it?

jim


Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
From: peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva)
Subject: NIXPUB update for NeoSoft.com
Organization: Ferranti International Controls Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:56:57 GMT

Boy, is it out of date...

09/91  713-684-5900^      sugar      Houston         TX 3/12/24/96/192  24
486/AT, SCO UNIX, 16+ lines (V.22, V.32, PEP, TurboPEP), Usenet news, email,
Clarinet, complete *.sources and *.binaries archives, dial-up SLIP, access
to Internet (FTP, telnet, ...), varying fees for shell access, news feeds.

(Actually, Telebit claims that with a 115kbps serial port you can get about
70kbps with TurboPEP and V.42, so 192 is a little low... by a factor of 3 or
so!)
-- 
Peter da Silva                                               `-_-'
Ferranti Intl. Ctls. Corp.                                    'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012
+1 713 274 5180                                   Har du kramat din varg idag?
From: tryder@NYX.CS.DU.EDU (Trevathon Ryder)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: ChaelBoard
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:51:19 GMT

How about making it available for FTP?!!?

Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.internet
From: esteban@apollo.hp.com (Steven Fernandez)
Subject: Re: GEnie Connection
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:03:45 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Sep11.003750.15818@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver) writes:
>
>I'd just like to toss a couple more points onto Yury's post about the
>GEnie/Internet link ... which is about time, if you ask me.
>
>1) Just because you know someone's GEMail address doesn't mean you'l{
>automatically be able to send to them from Internet by using
><GEMail.Address>@genie.geis.com.  They (on the GEnie end) must first
>subscribe to the Internet gateway (that's the $9.95/month charge Yury
>quoted in the previous post).  If they don't subscribe, the GEnie
>PostMaster will barf your mail back at you telling you that the address
>you're trying to send to isn't allowed to receive Internet mail (I've
>already tried this ... that's what happens).
>
>2)  The ~$10/month fee is in additional to GEnie's standard rates.
>



Gosh,

I thought Genie would offer a good deal on their internet connection. At
this price you are much better off going with America online which gives
you a free Internet connection or Compuserve who's basic service does the
same.

		Steve
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Fidonet sux, fee for access. (was Sad to say...)
Keywords: Fidonet
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:05:14 GMT

randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) writes:

>> In a later message, either Larry or Edward mentions that they had to support
>> their Fidonet NEC's phone bill for echomail (newsgroups).

>That's because Larry charges for news and mail feeds, which most people give
>away for free.

does uunet give them away for free?  How about uupsi?  

usually those who offer reliable feeds charge.  Those one want a reliable
feed, usually don't mind paying

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Coherent Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:31:58 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>richard@nacjack.gen.nz (Richard Vowles) writes:

>>QNX is POSIX compatable, i.e it is more UNIX than UNIX itself. Of course,
>>Nixpub is for these inferior UNIX systems, so QNX shouldn't be included.

>QNX is, IMO, garbage. I've owned it. It sits on a shelf collecting dust now.
>QNX will never be anything more than a little hackers OS.

Even though QNX might not be applicable to your situation, when I
was looking around for which kind of multi-tasking OS to replace DOS
I was talking with Russ Briggs of DASNET. He runs a pretty
successful multi-machine system that links between various
non-otherwise-likeable systems. And the demo QNX sent me was pretty
impressive.

While further study/discussion convinced me that UNIX was the best
for me and my situation, I would hardly call QNX a "little hackers
OS". But then I hardly see the need to call anything names just
because it's not for me :-)

Dave

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Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Big Brother BBS policies
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:32:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.181136.29015@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>>>  To put it simply, if someone posts something legally actionable, like
>>>a PIN number, where to buy drugs, etc, I want to be able to point the
>>>police at the poster and away from my system.
>
>Sounds like they are taking the initiative, claiming that they would do it,
>and turning rat on their users to protect themselves from the police.

What sysop in his right mind would unnecessarily involve the police?
he's just putting himself in danger as well.  "And away from my system"
seems to indicate that the police would be hassling him already, before
he gave them the identity of the poster, which he would do to defend
himself.

>If you run a system that does not support illegal activity, then it is a
>very rare occurrance when something like that gets posted.  On systems I am
>familiar with it happens at most 3 times per year.  When it happens, you
>simply delete it, and either warn, restrict, or delete the user, depending
>on your policies.

The only problem I've had that *might* cause legal problems was an
X-rated GIF uploaded to an file area that could be seen by children... i
simply moved the file and mailed the person asking him to be more
careful about choosing the proper directory.

>  I see absolutely no need to point the police at the
>poster.  

I think you probably would see if a reason if several cops were taking
your computer apart because some twit posted a credit card number.  Why
should you suffer for something that was someone else's fault?

>Usually not.  And the original poster revealed how
>willing he would be to contribute to the erosion of personal freedoms in
>this country, by willingly turning over personal information about his
>users, in the event that the police "come after him." 

Like it or not, if the fascists find something illegal, someone has to
pay.  It's far better for the guilty to be arrested than the innocent.
Claiming you don't know who did it will just erode your own personal
freedom.

-- 
"Americans would be much more likely to convert to Metric if American men
 realized that a 15 cm penis sounds more impressive than a 6" one."
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Xref: sparky alt.bbs:5845 comp.bbs.misc:920 comp.misc:3654
From: yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc
Subject: Re: The bogus Nixpub Posting
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn 1.16c (6/22/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:18:08 GMT
Organization: Blue Knight Productions

In article <bakn+xk@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>Why should it be any more work than any of the other lists I keep?
>Oh, I understand, to YOU it would be work.  For me it would be a 
>few minutes' diddling.
>
>yeah.  And doesn't it just piss you off that you cannot do a thing
>about it?  In your face, sucker.
>

	JOHN!!! and anyone else involved in this.... DO YOU MIND!!!!!
Take it to EMAIL for god's sake! If you want to argue about it please do
not involve the rest of us. If you want to have more then one person argue
create a mailing list for BOGUS NIXPUB POSTING I for one (and I am sure
about 100 or so other people do not want to hear this Bull anymore.

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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Big Brother BBS policies
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:23:44 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Sep12.162217.1568@panix.com>, fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:

| However, to require personal information so that you can then rat them out
| to the police is unforgiveable and quite unamerican. 

  So if the police came to your house and asked about illegal
information on your system you would refuse to give the registration
information? There's a huge difference between initiating contact with
the police and having the info for self-defense. One which you obviously
have missed repeatedly.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: psyrobtw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: validating net mail in WWIV 4.21
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:47:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



I'm having trouble with WWIV version 4.21. I used to be able to 
validate net mail on the different echoes that I am home to. Now, 
however, with the upgrade to 4.21, I am not longer able. How can I get 
this function back?

Thanks...


=============================
Robert Weiss
psyrobtw@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: TBBS is very limited
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:52:34 GMT

From article <Bu4J3o.4M5@gator.rn.com>, by larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder):
> cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise) writes:
> 
> Yes -- but these third party applications are SPECIFIC for TBBS.  Chris,
> you know that your users can't run Lotus 1-2-3, likewise, any one of
> the tens of thousands of applications available -- you are limited to
> those which only run with TDBS (eSoft's dBase clone) or those which
> run with TBBS specifically.
> TBBS is easy to maintain, but we all know it is very limited when compared
> against the options available for UNIX.  Phil Becker has a history of

	Larry, can you tell me and everyone else why you INSIST on comparing
TBBS, a BBS *program* to Unix, an *operating system*?  I guess we
TBBS SysOps should feel flattered that you feel a need for such comparisons
*chuckle*!  Tells me that you think TBBS is much, much more than your
"average" BBS program, but then you try to downgrade it by telling everyone
that it just can't top the multi-tasking, online mail capability of Unix?!
*grin*  That's praise indeed.

> slow releases and missing deadlines.   Just about everyone who has been
> involved with BBSing for the last 5 or so years knows of Phil's massive delays
> with Zmodem -- which Phil blames on Chuck - the author -- but the bottom
> line is while Phil was placing blame, just about every other bulletin
> board vendor was supporting a working release of zmodem.

	Um, where/when did Phil place the blame on Chuck?  If you're
refering to the story I related a few weeks ago, it seems you mis-interperated
it.  Phil apparently had two version of Zmodem, each within a few months
release of each other.  When he tried to use them against one another
they didn't work.  End of story.  I never said (nor was I told) of Phil
placing the blame on Chuck or anyone else.  As I understood it, as a BBS
author and businessman, he did not feel it was a wise move to support a
protocol that he couldn't get to work with itself and that at the time,
was not as popular as Ymodem or whatever...

	
 TTYL
 Chris
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,comp.misc