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From: bgeer@beorn.sim.es.com (bob geer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks
Subject: shell input line editor
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:15:25 MST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.112.16
Originator: daemon@vxw.ee.lbl.gov

I don't much like the vi-like "led" line editor that comes with
VxWorks & I would like to replace it with a friendlier one that knows
about cursor & function keys & can be user configured.  I have the
input & editing code already running to my satisfaction as a
standalone & now I'm trying to put in between the terminal input & the
shell by creating a /pty/ pseudo-terminal device & redirecting shell's
input by changing it's STD_IN fd.  Not having a lot of luck, tho.

In particular, my routine echos all the input, & the shell insists on
echoing it as well after it's received from the /pty/slave device.

My routine expects unquoted string input & assumes the user wants
strings to be quoted.  An input token that doesn't start with a digit
is considered a string & is quoted by my routine, a token that starts
with a digit is not quoted -- this is satisfactory for my current
needs.  However, the quotes disappear somewhere after being written to
the /pty/master; double quoting on each end of the token seems to
preserve a single set of quotes thru to the shell.

So far, my experience trying to figure out how to accomplish what
should be a straightforward task using the distributed documentation
is sure taking a long time.  Both the telnet & rlogin daemons do this
somehow; unfortunately that source code isn't included as an example.

Yes, I am RFM & RFMan pages.

I would appreciate any info & suggestions anyone had regarding this
problem.  In particular:

1)  Is the pseudo-terminal method a reasonable way to do this?

2)  Describe a better way to do this.

3)  Example code would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance...Bob
Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks,comp.solaris
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From: vxwexplo@lbl.gov (the vxWorks Users Group Exploder)
Subject: Where are recent archives?
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Submitted-by psm%helios.nosc.mil@nosc.mil  Wed Dec 30 13:04:46 1992
Submitted-by: psm%helios.nosc.mil@nosc.mil (Scot McIntosh)
 
The vxworks archives on thor.ucar.edu seem to have stopped in 1991. Is
there another archive where more recent material is kept?
Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks
From: geoff@wrs.com (Geoff Espin)
Subject: Re: Question about TCP sockets
Keywords: close() sockets TCP
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:11:36 GMT

jprice@lds.loral.com (Jeffrey Price) writes:

> ... when a Vxworks task terminates without explicitly closing the socket, 
> subsequent reads and writes to that socket by another task do not fail like
> they do under Unix. It appears that Vxworks does not realize that the task
> using the socket has terminated.

VxWorks tasks are not UNIX processes.  File descriptors (& sockets) are global.
If a task terminates (abnormally, or not) _it_, or some "master" task,
is responsible for closing file descriptors -- if this is the desired model.
taskCreate/DeleteHook's are sometimes used to keep track of fd's.

Geoff
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Wind			River		Systems
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks
From: geoff@wrs.com (Geoff Espin)
Subject: Re: shell input line editor
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:53:00 GMT

bgeer@beorn.sim.es.com (bob geer) writes:
>I don't much like the vi-like "led" line editor that comes with VxWorks
>...
>shell by creating a /pty/ pseudo-terminal device & redirecting shell's
>input by changing it's STD_IN fd.  Not having a lot of luck, tho.

There isn't a nice way to do this.  :-(

>1)  Is the pseudo-terminal method a reasonable way to do this?
This recipe may work (sorry I haven't tried it recently to verify):
In usrConfig.c change the ioGlobalStdSet() calls to set the STD_/IN/OUT/ERR
fd's to your cooked i/o device.  Then, before shellInit():
	{
	extern int ledId;
	ledId = -1;  /* this will tell shellLib not to make ledXXX() calls */
	}

>2)  Describe a better way to do this.
Alternatively, replace ledLib.o in the VxWorks library archive
with your own ledLib.o.  It must provide led{Open,Close,Read,Control}().
Hopefully, parameters and expected results are reasonably self-explanatory.

BTW, the rlogin/telnet facilities do not takeover the shell's fd's the way
you expect [see shellOrigStdSet() -- for advanced contortionists].

Geoff
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Wind			River		Systems
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From: jprice@lds.loral.com (Jeffrey Price)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks
Subject: Question about TCP sockets
Keywords: close() sockets TCP
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:30:18 GMT
Reply-To: jprice@lds.loral.com
Organization: Loral Data Systems

I am looking for help concerning a problem we have discovered with Vxworks implementation of TCP sockets.  Any suggestions would be much appreciated.


Apparently when a Vxworks task terminates without explicitly closing the socket, 
subsequent reads and writes to that socket by another task do not fail like they do under Unix. It appears that Vxworks does not realize that the task using the socket has terminated.

Has anyone encountered this or similar problems, and if so how do you handle it.


Thanks,

Jeff Price
813-371-0811 x6823
email : jprice@mail.lds.loral.com
From: harvey@wrs.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vxworks
Subject: CMIP experiences?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 11:25:41 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.112.16
Originator: daemon@vxw.ee.lbl.gov

Dear Users,

Does anyone had any experience (good or bad) with using CMIP network
management software from Retix (THE INTERNETWORKING COMPANY) in a VxWorks
application?

Has anyone used a CMIP package from any other company?

A customer is considering this package but would like get some feedback
from other users...

If preferable, you can e-mail responses directly to me at harvey@wrs.com.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Harvey Wong
Wind River Systems, Inc.

Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: schriste@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Christensen)
Subject: Wither ZCPR?
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:08:50 GMT


Hi,

	I am windering if Z-Systems ZCPR is available on the net?
I know there are some SIMTEL-20 subdirectores, but I can't figure out
what they contain, and what I need to get for ZCPR.

		Thanks,
		Steven
-- 
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schriste@uceng.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: K10 hard disk does not boot
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:33:41 GMT

My Kaypro 10 hard disk formats ok with FORMAT06 but when trying to
PUTSYS I get an error "DISK WRITE FAULT". Is there any way to overcome
this but getting a new drive? Lockbad does not help, it suggests
reformatting but this is of no help.

--
jjj@mits.mdata.fi | PGP 2.0 key available | PGP 2.0 avain saatavilla
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 23 Dec 1992 16:20:22 MST
From: <CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject:    CPM Kermit for a TRS-80 Model 4



Does anyone know how to get cp/m kermit to pass an <ESC> sequence to the
computer it is connected to via the serial port.  I need to send the clear char
acter to my school's cms system in order to get anywhere on it.  If anyone has
used kermit to connect to a cms before, please let me know how you dealt with t
he PF keys and clear keyboard mapping problems.


Thanks
From: greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org (Greg Vigneault)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: MORE ON THE ZTIME-I CALEN
Date: 20 Dec 92 10:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org (Greg Vigneault)
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114 2200+ conferences


 In message-ID <1992Dec14.033217.13185@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us>
 adp@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us (Alan Percy) writes...

AP> I have 15 bare circuit boards left for the Ztime-I.  The features
  > of the Ztime-I are:

 If this is a single-sided board, would you consider photocopying
 it, and offering it along with instructions, software, etc. ?

 Greg Vigneault

 Dec.20.1992.Toronto.Canada.
 greg.vigneault@bville.gts.org
                                                                                       
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: cwr@crash.cts.com (Will Rose)
Subject: Re: Wither ZCPR?
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:55:02 PST

Steven Christensen (schriste@uceng.uc.edu) wrote:
: 
: Hi,
: 
: 	I am windering if Z-Systems ZCPR is available on the net?
: I know there are some SIMTEL-20 subdirectores, but I can't figure out
: what they contain, and what I need to get for ZCPR.
: 
: 		Thanks,
: 		Steven

I've just bought NZCOM from Jay Sage's wife's (brother's cousin's dog's)
outfit, and at $50 it's a steal.  I brought up ZCPR3.3 some years ago the
hard way, compiling each unit and then linking the system, (at least I
had an older Z-system to work in) and NZCOM is an enormous improvement,
and really just as compact.  If I were bringing up Z again, I'd simply
buy NZCOM straight away - it's not worth fiddling with older versions
unless the hardware is unusually intractable.

They also do a full set of current Z-sys utilities, which is a good idea
if you don't have easy net access.  In fact, with the dearth of CP/M 
archives around the place I'm not sure you *could* get hold of a full
set of utilities/help files without enormous phone charges.

There is a suprising amount of good work being done in CP/M, if you can
find it, and Sage's outfit is a good place to start looking.  The other
is probably The Computer Journal, (916) 645-1670. 

Good luck - Will
cwr@crash.cts.com
From: ABAHETI@MACALSTR.EDU (Arun Baheti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Xerox for sale... make an offer
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:36:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

FOR SALE: XEROX 16/8 and DIABLO 630

Hardware:
	  10 Meg. hard drive
	  8" DD/DS floppy
	  one extra hard drive and one extra floppy unit
	  Low Profile Extended Keyboard
	  Mouse
	  Serial Interface Unit (SIU/Ethernet connector)
	  Inmac Glare Sentry II (save what's left of your eyes)
	  40 CPS Daisy Wheel printer (Diablo 630)
	  All relevant technical manuals

Software:
	  CP/M-80
	  CP/M-86
	  MS-DOS
	  WordStar 3.3
	  Xerox WordStar
	  Microsoft Basic
	  Supercalc 2
	  The Boss Financial System
	  dBase-II
	   dGraph & RunTime & Zip
	  Business Graphics
	  Analyst
	  UCSD p-System Pascal
	  40 disks of public domain software
	   including installed communications and ZCPR3
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Subject: sale apple 111 cp/m
Reply-To: "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:53:55 EST

FOR SALE


Have a  APPLE 111 computer with built in  drive.
Comes with a  9 MEG HD.
Also has a special  APPLE Soft Card 111 System board.
It converts SOS DOS to CP/M. So one can use CP/M programs
on this APPLE. Has all the books and docs for the card,also
the discetts.  Dont have monitor.

Ill like to get at least $75.00 bucks for the whole thing.....

Call me at 271-7780 or 891-9013 MISSISSAUGA ONT.
THANKS   -=TONY=-
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: dont@klic.rain.com (Don taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Well, if people are almost giving away CP/M stuff, some requests
Date: 25 Dec 92 02:59:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: klic.1992Dec25.025921.6219
Distribution: na
Organization: KLIC

I mentioned to a CP/M owner that people had been letting go of a lot of CP/M
material recently on the net.  This person responded that he would actually
make USE of some things:

	North Star Horizon components
	   he had a cpu board fail and went through hoops to find another one
	North Net boards&software in particular
	North Star Horizon specific software
	Pickles&Trout CP/M for Tandy Model II

As long I am taking up net space, I have an old S100 box sitting on the shelf
that still works.  I might be interested in novel S100 cards, with software,
to give a reason to turn it on and make it run again.  What ever happened to
those associative memory (cam) boards that were introduced for the S100?
How about stepper motor controller boards?  Something other than cpu/8k ram/
floppy boards.

Thanks
Don Taylor
503-235-6853
dont@klic.rain.com
dont@pdaxs.techbook.com

Some mail gets lost going to klic.  I would love to see the result of a
'pathto klic' to help diagnose this, or ANY bounced mail reports including all
the 'Received By' lines.  Mail seems to get to pdaxs.  Thanks
From: oscsf@godel.pgh.wec.com (Chuck Fuller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Kaypro blowing fuses - hardware advice needed
Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:18:51 GMT
Organization: Westinghouse Corporate Computer Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: godel.pgh.wec.com
Originator: oscsf@godel

My trusty pre-'83 Kaypro II (which, by the way, was under 18 feet of
acidic, muddy flood water for a couple of days in '85) blew a fuse
mid-session the other day.  Of course, a replacement fuse blew
immediately upon power-up.  Being more oriented toward the software end
of the computing world (but having some basic understanding of how the
hardware works), I appeal to the Kaypro hardware gurus for advice on where
to begin my diagnosis, probable causes, etc.  

One point bears mentioning:  the machine currently has two half-height
drives squeezed into the top half of the drive cage, leaving the bottom
half open at the front.  I _think_ I saw sparks through this opening
when the first fuse blew, but I can't be certain.  There were no visible
sparks on power-up with the replacement fuse.

Examination of the motherboard and power supply show a little rust on
the solder but no obvious "burned" spots.  There appear to be no "rust
bridges" in the layout.  The only thing that I've noticed that seems
questionable is a small, blackened spot at the top of C1 on the power
supply. 

I'd appreciate any suggestions that you can provide.

A note to Jay Sage: keep those spare parts handy!

Thanks ...
- Chuck
spots.
From: secrist@msdsws.enet.dec.com (Strong datatypes for weak minds.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Scheme for CP/M
Date: 23 Dec 92 07:02:45 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


	The best you will probably be able to was a package called ILISP.
	It is enough to be fun to hack with and could get you started in
	LISP, but does not offer enough functionality to come close to
	getting your through a real computer science course.  ILISP was
	not offered in source but seemed to work well and came with some
	useful documentation.  It was available from Royal Oak, etal. last
	time I looked.

	There are quite good Schemes that will run on low-end PCs,
	notably SCM.  Nothing that will fit inside of 64K though.

	Regards,
	rcs
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: schriste@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Christensen)
Subject: Power requirements?
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:24:48 GMT

Hi,
	I recently acquired a six-slot S-100 card cage, sans power supply.
It has connections for +8, Gnd, +16, and -16. Since each card has it's own
regulator, I was wondering how strict these voltages need to be. For
example, can I use +18, -18 and +7.6 volts?

	What kind of current am I expected to provide?

	Thanks,
		Steven

-- 
Steven V. Christensen
schriste@uceng.uc.edu
From: goldfish@cebu.sbi.com (P. Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: CPM Kermit for a TRS-80 Model 4
Summary: term type is VT-52, keyboard is crippled
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:38:23 GMT
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Inc

In article <92358.162022CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET> CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>Does anyone know how to get cp/m kermit to pass an <ESC> sequence to the
>computer it is connected to via the serial port.  I need to send the clear char
>acter to my school's cms system in order to get anywhere on it.  If anyone has
>used kermit to connect to a cms before, please let me know how you dealt with t
>he PF keys and clear keyboard mapping problems.

The Radio Shack CPM does not have an escape character on the keuyboard.  Use
the Ctrl-] character.  That one works.  As to the function keys, your CPM
(Radio Shack variant) doesn't got em.

I ended up learning the emacs mappings and assuming that I have a crippled
keyboard, however, the screen behaves like a VT-52.

This is passable for UNIX, horrible for VMS.
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	( Shirley MacLaine told me there would be LIFETIMES like this)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
From: "wr campbell" <wr.campbell@canrem.com>
Subject: terminals\modems for sale
Reply-To: "wr campbell" <wr.campbell@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 3 Jan 93 10:57:26 EST

                  For Sale
                  --------

Qume model 102A terminal. Clean, no screen burn-in.
Has one key that doesn't return.

TTX model 3000 terminal. Clean, no screen burn-in.
Has a sticky key.

One pair of Gandalf LDS319 modems. Speeds up to 19.2
on 4-wire connection.

Cleaning house and need the space. Make an offer.

thanks
  Bob
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Xref: sparky comp.os.cpm:1522 misc.forsale:34349
From: stes@wcsn.csms.com (Robert Stes Stessel WCSN Manager)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm,misc.forsale
Subject: TRS80 CHEAP!
Keywords: for sale
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:08:18 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: WCSN, Herald Broadcasting Synidicate, Inc.



    	I have a TRS-80 w/2 8" drives & bunch of accounting
    software. It was given to me third hand by some one who knew
    nothing about computers and who's wife told him to GET IT OUT OF
    THEIR GARAGE!
    
    	I plugged it in and tried it. It booted and loaded it's
    DOS from disk, but when I booted it a second time, it seemed to
    score the surface of the disk. Not really wanting to spend a lot
    of time with it, I quit before I did any more damage.
    
    	Bottom line, it works sort of, if you have one or three
    already and want some good spare parts, or want to fix it up as
    an additional machine, it is in basically ok shape, I just don't
    need to play with ANOTHER operating system. (I'm already more
    deeply involved with Unix, DOS, & Commodore64 than I should be!)

    	Apparently the CPU, memory (64k) and monitor are ok, but
    it seems to have a disk problem. I never got as far as checking
    the second drive.

    	I would trade it for an old dos compatable printer, a
    commodore 80 column adapter for the c64, or whatever you have
    gathering dust in your ibm or c64 closet.
    	
    	If you have nothing to trade but want it anyway, don't
    dispair. If no one offers me anything in trade, I will give it
    away to the person with the best sob story. So if your church,
    school, club, etc. uses TRS-80's; you are a starving computer
    student; etc.; you want something for your kids to play with;
    need a boat anchor; etc.; you can come n' git it, or have it for
    the UPS from Maine. My wife wants it OUT OF OUR GARAGE!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
      "So much has been given to me; I have no time to ponder over
               that which has been denied". Helen Keller
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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          WCSN Shortwave; Robert L. Stessel, Station Manager.
      P.O. Box 130, Costigan,ME 04423 USA....Tel.(207)-732-4366
From: PHR00JG@TECHNION.BITNET ("Jacques J. Goldberg")
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: INFO-CPM Digest V92 #149, comm. with mapped keyboard
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:03:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 13:08:41 IST

QTERM has it, and shows how to implement it.
You will also need the P.D. assembler and patcher pointed at in the QTERM
documentation.  QTERM and these are on SIMTEL20.
Very easy to implement even for a person like me with limited assembly
practice.
QTERM traps each keystroke, branches to some space where you can play, and
has a mechanism to let the rest of the program know if the stroke has to be
passed out to the comm. port right away, or be deferred, or be followed by
more stuff.
Actually that's how a QTERM user would simulate a VT100 keyboard for example.
If you know a little bit of Z80 assembly you will remap your keyboard in less
than 2 hours with a slow diskette system (testing faster with a HD of course).
David Goodenough (no error here I hope) thought about you when writing QTERM.
---------------- Jacques Goldberg - Technion, Haifa, Israel
From: garyo@think.com (Gary Oberbrunner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
Subject: Re: Kaypro II
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:13:12
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge Mass., USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: prometheus.think.com
In-reply-to: reynaert@cs.arizona.edu's message of 7 Dec 92 21:37:07 GMT

In article <27709@optima.cs.arizona.edu> reynaert@cs.arizona.edu (Jim B. Reynaert) writes:

   Newsgroups: comp.os.cpm
   From: reynaert@cs.arizona.edu (Jim B. Reynaert)
   Date: 7 Dec 92 21:37:07 GMT
   Keywords: SIO & CRT
   Lines: 18

	   I have benn having problems with my communications when I use an
   external modem at 2400 BPS, Some characters are lost while the comunication
   is going on. This only happens when there is output to my adm3a screen.
	   Curiously, this doesn't happen at 1200 BPS or less. Also I have down
   loaded files at 2400 BPS and no data has been lost... It would be nice for me
   to be able to communicate at 2400 BPS without having to guess what the output 
   to the screen was ex...    instead of more it writes "me" or instead of 
   password it types "psswd", I would like to know if somebody out there has or 
   had the same problem and if so how did you fix it. Is it probably a
   bad Microchi? And if so which one? 
	   I appreciate any help that I can get, thank you in advance
					   Jim.

   P.D. please send e-mail...

[I tried replying to this by email, but it bounced due to "User unknown"]

I see from this posting on comp.os.cpm that some people are doing serial
communications on a Kaypro II.  My mother has a Kaypro too, and she's about
to dump it in favor of a Mac.  What comm software do you use folks use on
the Kaypro?  Is it public domain?  Can I get a copy?  Can it do xmodem or
kermit or some such file transfer protocol?  Or do you know of any way I
can read a CP/M disk on anything else (even a PC would be OK, I can get it
to the Mac from there)?

ps: I suspect the answer to your question about data lossage is that you
are not using any flow control.  You probably have to set up your comm
package and your modem to do flow control (either software, ^S/^Q, or
hardware, RTS/CTS) between them.

pps: want a used Kaypro? :-)

Thanks!

				- Gary Oberbrunner
				Thinking Machines Corporation
				245 First St
				Cambridge, MA 02142
				garyo@think.com