HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 3 Oct 1992 17:09:53 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net said:
:- ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
:- 
:- |	you really expect me to fall for whats most probably the oldest
:- |	bait on rec.moto??? (ten points to the first person to point out
:- |	an older bait and prove that i am indeed newbie-scum! ;).
:- 
:- Let me see - older bait.  Ahhh, yes:
:- 
:-   "You newbie-scum FRESHMAN STUDENT!!" (Obvious, since you are posting from
:- a .edu system).

	this from a person who isnt even on internet!!! ;) and this is
	not an older bait! its a later version of the same old bait!
	(and jeq has already fried me about the .edu thing).

:- To PROVE you are a newbie scum?   Oh, yes:
:-   I've got copies of news postings less than two months old where you are
:- complaining about the DoD taking over the newsgroup (hilarious one, that).
:- How newbie *can* you get?

	you actually save news postings by me??? you seriously need
	psychological help! (and hey i never said the DoD is taking over
	the newsgroup... i might have a year ago, but i think the
	takeover was accomplished even earlier than that!!! ;). small
	doubt: the hilarious bit... was it the post? or the whining?

:-   So, do I get the ten points?

	nope! however your attempt was brave and you deserve a strong
	pat in the back ;)

	peace,

	- ravi


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From: ajm@seqp4.sequoia.com (A.J.Madison)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Carpal Tunnel and Riding
Summary: go get one of those foam pad things for the keyboard NOW!
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:59:11 GMT
Organization: Sequoia Systems Inc., Marlboro, Mass.


I just want to propagate the gospel whenever I get the chance.  After many,
many years of bashing away at various versions of the thing I'm beating on
right now, I actually noticed after work early symptoms of CTS.  For the
first hour after work, I would have little tingly sensations in my fingers
tips and some numbness in my hands.  It would take me about 2 hours to
regain fine motor control in my fingers (I do pencil drawings, I could not
make the pencil move properly over the paper, it would come out like that
cartoonist, um, the one who is a quadrapelic & former alcoholic).

Anyway, a coworker gave this stupid chunk of foam.  Nothing special, just
some soft packing material sliced down to about 1" think which is sitting
under my wrists this very minute.  Now, I have no tingly sensations after
work, no numbness in the hands, and fine motor control all the time.

So I believe.  Even if you don't have the symptoms I describe, its cheap
medicine, especially if you're a "Computer Programmer" like I am.  I haven't
a clue what I'd do for a living if I couldn't type.  I'd have spent the $20
bucks one of those expensive jobs you see in computer place, but you don't
have to.

-- 
when everyone is out to get you, being paranoid is just good thinking.
         - Dr. Johnny Fever <in other words, standard disclaimer>
A.J. Madison                                           ajm@sequoia.com
Sequoia Systems Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:50:56 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: MSUS

> 
> <HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
> 
>
> How far does the average Denizen commute?
> 

	3 miles to work and 20 miles on the return.
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What could you buy for $2000?
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:35:13 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia

In article <1a7etgINNbdk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, kas19@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Kevin Smith) writes: 
> Is anyone _really_ going to answer this question?
Sure.

>...first bike...
Opinion on.  Don't look at a $2000 for your first bike.  Buy something cheaper.
I'd say something around $500.  Forget image, forget really-fast.  Buy 
something that can eat pavement and not break your heart and/or wallet.  While
you're learning riding on this bike, save your pennies.  Then turn around and
buy a sporty bike (this seems to be your interest).

> Can you really get a Ninja 600R or an EX 500 for $2000 dollars?
yup.  When I started looking to buy a new bike, I bought the Cycle Trader ever
week for about three months.  (lesse, 4 weeks per month X 3 months X $1.25...)
In that amount of time I found plenty of seemingly good deals.  I'm sure half
of them probably weren't as attractive as the picture/price, if I'd shown up
to look at them.  Whatever bike you buy, take your time, do your homework.

>If so, where do you live.
Atlanta.

ObMoto: Take an MSF course. 

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: K75 counterbalancer? (Was: BMW K100rs)
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:31:44 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com

John S. Morris (jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep28.134603.15741@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
: >pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
: >
: >Ok, now I'm convinced. But it sure seems weird that BMW put a balancer
: >on the smoother triple, and not on the buzzy four.
: >
: The counter-balancer won't fit in the K100 engine without major mods.
: (Haven't I said this before?!)
: 
: *AND* THE FOUR ISN'T BUZZY!!!! Mine, as well as several others I've
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Another data point. I found the K100 a fun bike with good roll-on
power and good brakes. 

I felt that the suspension left a little to be desired. The back end
tended to be twitchy. 

AND IT BUZZES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Jack Tavares    KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: ZX11 0-60 times (was Re: 'taint been......)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:43:27 GMT

joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>]Not to burst your bubble or anything, but:
>]                  1/4 mile     0-60
>]ZX-11 *(91)  Kaw  10.51@132.21 2.65
>]ZX11 *(90)   Kaw  10.52@131.82 2.65
>]ZX10 *(88)   Kaw  10.71@128.62 2.65

>kinda amazing how all three of those bikes can have EXACTLY the same 0-60

Yea, that struck me as odd when I posted it too. I hadn't noticed it
until I whacked off the rest of the stats.

>times, especially considering the 10 has a different final drive ratio, the
>spread in years and the accompanying technological differences between the
>bikes. sorry, just a little too coincidental for me. I've also read (from 
>one of the bike rags) that the 91 had 7% less HP than the 90 (not sure I 
>believe that one though).

>not to worry, no bubble burst. I think your numbers are garbage. lies, damn
>lies, and statistics as it were...

Possibly, but they're Cycle magazine's lies, generated with one of those
infallible computer gadgets. Here's the rest of the stats if that helps.

                  weight 1/4 mile     0-60  45-70 in the top 3 gears
ZX-11 *(91)  Kaw  587.5w 10.51@132.21 2.65 3.40@286 4.25@358 5.10@430
ZX11 *(90)   Kaw  575.5w 10.52@131.82 2.65 2.9 @244 3.8 @320 4.6 @390
ZX10 *(88)   Kaw  578.0w 10.71@128.62 2.65 3.1 @264 4.2 @352 5.1 @428
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Seca II spedometer cable
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:38:30 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: na
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


gm17+@andrew.cmu.edu (Glenn C. Meter) writes:

>I'm a new rider, so I don't know what's "normal" for the buisness.  I'm
>just frustrated that I've only had the bike a month and now it's sitting
>idle until it can be fixed.  And there are only a few more good riding
>weekends left this fall in this part of the country.

Not being a gear-head, I'm probably missing something important in this 
post, but what is it that keeps you from riding?  Your speedo doesn't 
work?  So what?  Even if you're a new rider you must be able to tell 
(within reason) how fast you're going in whatever gear you're in, so why 
do you care if the speedo doesn't work?

Does the bike not start if the speedo is disconnected?

Isn't that a lot of question marks for such a little post?
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost got killed - want tougher helmet law!
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 92 22:49:25 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct2.171337.13971@progress.com>

>  *real* DoD'ers don't need this!

>...

>  they just bite the nut off (ouch!).
 
Ouch..!  Tell that to poor Jeremy..  (He of No Left Nut..!)

BobR
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:35:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET, writes:
>I have just moved.....and my commute has gone from a 15 minute
>7 mile trip to >45min god-knows-how-far trip.
>
>How far is too far?  I have a cage...but it looks so pretty
>sitting in the garage.  :-)
>
>How far does the average Denizen commute?
>

~20 mi by most direct route (I-80). Up to 50 mi by the more "interesting"
route.
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: question about the dod yellow pages
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:04:06 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization


some questions about the yellow pages:

1) do you think i should include all the states' dept. of tourism
names/numbers? ~50 or so more entries.

2) does Travelcade in paramount CA make seats or do they do tours?
are there two companies with the same name?

replies would be prefered over follow-ups


-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: johnsw@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns)
Subject: Drag racing
Originator: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Keywords: go fast
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:23:46 GMT

YO Denizens!                                                                    
                                                                                
Weather permitting, I'm gonna try drag-racing this weekend.  Like Jurgen        
said, "I'll taste of any drink once."  So other than holding the tack           
near the rev limiter and popping the clutch, what words of advise can be        
offered on the proper technique for maximum acceleration on a strip,            
ideally with minimal damage/wear and tear on the bike.  Should the chain        
be relatively loose or tight?  Tire pressures?  Short shifting? Weight          
distribution?  Other useful techniques?                                         
                                                                                
Buck, are you still with us??                                                   
                                                                                
Ride Free, and straight for 1/4 mile!                                           
                                                                                
Bill                                                                            
________________________________________________________________                
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu if you feel compelled to send email                     
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu if you seriously expect an answer                     
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002   SR= 2.125 prez=BIMC                     
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)                            
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/              
                                                                                
An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly understood.                       
An inconvenience is only an adventure wrongly considered.                       
                                                     Chesterton                 
                                                                                
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:35:20 GMT

cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

> there is no FAQ
>at my site (perhaps the expiration on the FAQ is set too short, or my
>admin has an ignore-expiration fascist expire policy; I don't know).

I do, you have a weenie news admin. The DoD FAQ is posted the first of
each month, with a 1.5 month expiration. That was deemed to be the best
compromise between never posting it, and having all numbered Denizens
include it in their .signature files. (An odd/even number scheme looked
like it had some merit, but it turned out that everyone was odd, so that
had to be scrapped.) Perhaps we need a FAQ about the FAQ?

(Note that the DoD FAQ is seperate from the general rec.moto FAQ,
and the maintainer of the general FAQ posts from a weenie site that
won't let him set the expiration line. So while the general FAQ may be
subject to the ravages of disk space, the DoD FAQ should always be
there, possibly in duplicate, depending on the time of month.)

>The second DoD'er never responded. If you want to send me the FAQ, I'd
>be much obliged for curiousity's sake.

And you quit at two attempts? Your curiosity underwhelms me.

>DoD sounds like a group of folks who started an in-joke at a party

Close, the party was held here in rec.moto a few years back, with the
number invited strictly limited to 20-30,000 or so.

>Maybe I'll even ride with some Denizens on occasion when I'm a good
>enough rider to be worthy, I just don't need the little Secret Society
>crap.

Secret? Well, if a monthly FAQ posting, three mentions in national
magazines, and plaque in the AMA Motorcycle Heritage Museum qualify as
secret. That's not to say that some Denizens don't put on an false front
of secrecy, but then when there are no DoD rules how can you regulate
their behaviour? Of course it generally seems that newer a newbie is,
the more likely they are to get wrapped up in the secrecy nonsense.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What's DoD?  Read Me
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 6 Oct 1992 05:43:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Oct5.004704.769@elektro.cmhnet.org>,
root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) wrote:
> 
> Did you ever want to ask what is DoD, but you were afraid to ask?
> Here's as complete a list of "what's it?" as I've been able to compile.
> 

You call that complete?  You forgot Debauchers of Donuts!  You sorry
excuse for llama droppings.

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: New BMW 1938 R71 for 7,500.00
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:40:53 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

This is my third post on the new fashion in the Yuppie world 
"motorcycles". My wife receives another catalog from a 
company called "J Peterman" they sell interesting expensive 
stuff to Yuppies in an expensive catalog we receive 4 times a year.


This years christmas catalog included the following listing on 
page 3.

"R71 Motorcycle with sidecar found in original crates in a warehouse in china.
Has never been on the road.

Historical backgrond: BMW model R71 was made in the BMW munich factory from 
1938 unti 1941. In 1941 the R71 model, built for the german military was 
replaced with the R75. The tooling and designs for the R71 were shipped from 
the munich factory to Eisenach Germany in 1941. Here the tooling and designs
were stored in a cave in the side of a mountain. Eisanach wound up in East Germany
after WWII.

Stalin confiscated the tooling and designs. Then had the R71 made for the Russian
army for several years. Stalin offerred the tooling and designs to china in the
early 1950's. China used the R71 tooling and designs to manufacture the
R71 motorcycle and a sidecar for the peoples liberation army up until 1967.

These bikes with sidecars, located in a warehouse in china and purchased
as surplus by the J Peterman Company, were in the original crates and have never
been on the road. Since these bikes were not made by BMW, or in a BMW factory,
they cannot be considered authentic BMW motorcycles. They are made however
with BMW tooling and design specifications.

The R71 is reconditioned painted and road tested before it is delivered to our 
customers. Very limited quanity. Price: $7,500.00. Call for special freight
arrangements.

SPECS:
Dimensions in inches 96l x 64w x 40h
Dry Weight  770 punds
Payload 3 persons plus 220 pounds

Engine displacement 746 cc
Compression 5.7:1
Side Valve
Power 22 hp @4600 rpm
\Max Speed 68 mph solo/53 mph with sidecar
Economic speed 40 mph gts 30 mpg
Kick starter

Transmission 4 speed gear shift pedal gear lever

Shaft drive.
Clutch double disk dry friction

"

I am in no way a representative of J peterman, I offer this info for 
it's amusement value only.

Dave 
DoD 1085

they cannot be considered authentiv 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:51:59 GMT

In article <1aatlkINN86i@agate.berkeley.edu> tedcrum@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:
>
>I think that you DoD's are mistaken in assuming that you constitute the only 
>audience for this group. I don't know the history of this group, but since
>it is established as ba, I assumed that as a bay area motorcyclist I would be
>among friends
>in this group. If I  was mislead, it is because the group is wrongly
>named. Perhaps alt.mc.dod .

Well then get the fuck out of rec.motorcycles.  Us'n down in here in Texas
couldn't give two shits about the berkeley ba weenies.

>
>When I first got news up on my computer, I was thrilled to find this group,
>and I hoped to find in it the kind of comeraderie (sp) that motorcyclists
>have shared for longer than the 25 years I have been riding. 
>
>I encourage riders from all over the bay area to ignore the flames and the
>acronyms and participate in this group.
>
>-Ted Crum

Well Ted, why don't you learn about cross posting and such.  If you want to
talk about bay area stuff, keep it off of the net that goes around the
world.  Wow Wee, you mean berkeley ain't the center of the universe?

Geez, BA, keep your weenies to yourselves.

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: HKORNFELD@BUPULA.BU.EDU (HARDY KORNFELD)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: DoD Stickers
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:52:20 GMT
Organization: BOSTON UNIVERSITY, Pulmonary Center
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

I was corner working at Loudon between my races this weekend when a very
nice Duc came sliding into the tire barriers (it was raining).  Was checking
out the rider's helmet for impact trauma when my heart froze ... a DoD
decal was stuck on the back.  This fellow (number witheld pending notification
of next of kin) says these things were available on the net in the distant
past.

Does anyone have, or is anyone interested in making more of the same?  I would
like to stick a few on to my race bikes in order to strike fear into the 
hearts of my enemies on the track (my riding doesn't seem to do it).

H. Kornfeld DoD #713
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: I got another motorcycle
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 12:50:12 GMT

In article <1615@adpplz.UUCP> martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:
>
>"Senile old man relives misspent youth, film at 11."

  We knew that!!
>
>
>It's an RD350, exactly like the one I got nearly twenty years ago to replace
>the Kawasaki 90 "Evil Motorcycle with the Warrantee from Hell".
>
>My wife _made_ me buy it, but she did have the grace to apologize. I had

  Sure, you expect us to believe a woman could be rational for a change. 
   (hmmmmmmm, now where did I put my nomex underwear)
>to forgive her, she spent an hour making room for it in the garage.
>Apparently she figured an RD350 of the correct model, that ran, beat an
>R5 waiting to be rebuilt. Gosh, women are hard to figure out. (NOT for
>sale, her or the motorcycle.) It's grape purple, so we named it 
>"Nippon Shu", which means Japanese wine. For those of you in the northwet,
>there _will_ be a party once it's streetable.
>
>  So when you've got a bunch of motorcycles, how do you decide
>  when you're ready, heading out the door, which one you're going to ride?

  In my case whichever one happens to be running, they are Harleys
  you know.
>
>
>Ed, in today's world, with all the used bikes available at ridiculously
>low prices, howcome you don't get a bike, howcome?

  Yeh Ed, how come??
>
>OBob: :-) :-) :-)

  Ahhh Yup....
>
>OBlaurie: Yeah, she can ride this one if she wants to.
>
>
>          Martin Golding           |        BMW R100/7  "Britt"
> DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #2  |  BMW 750/6/2+Ural  "Treaty of Leningrad"
>              KotP                 |     Ducati 860 GT  "Mouse"
>  There's always More,             |         Honda 150  "Dreamboat"
>    That's what More _means_!      |      Yamaha RD350  "Nippon shu"
>[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin     |     Yamaha XV750J  "Julia Tiberius"
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                         This is getting disgusting!!


-- 
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
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