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From: khaberl@bbn.com (Karl Haberl)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: The K2000 vs. SY99 debate - SY99 Owner
Date: 31 Jul 1992 18:37:28 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: khaberl@bbn.com (Karl Haberl)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
Summary: Fun! Fun! Fun!


Plant that wet wiggly thing firmly in your cheek, and sprinkle :-) to taste.


Rossi writes:
>Clearly, anybody that considers the Korg 01/W sound to be anything better than
>mundane is probably not worth responding to because they have obviously been
>overcome by the dull-trendy-sound-is-good (DTSIG) virus.

Hey John, don't sugarcoat it, man. Tell 'em how you REALLY feel.

>You sample player
>aficionados who have never pondered 'synthesis' appear to be an incredibly
>ignorant lot.

Now, THAT'S more like it.


and Metlay writes:
>
[...]
>If the DX7 was your specialty, Dougie, you never HAD any usefulness.
>Oops, sorry, that was a neuron from 1987. Never mind. Forget it. |->
>
[...]
>
>Just look into your reflection in the LCD display and repeat
>after me: "I'm talented enough, I'm MIDIwise enough, and doggone it, my
>synths LIKE me!"
>

Love it! 
Visualize yourself with a big crown of puffy yellow hair for full effect.


And then Crispen writes:
>I think it's time for everybody to grovel humbly before Jonathon
>Simon and admit that the K2000 is god, that nothing compares 2 u,
>and that playing with RASP or JIAWG or HARM or whatever the OS is
>is better than sex.  Maybe that'll shut him up and get us off this
>*B*O*R*I*N*G* thread!
>

Bob, do you really mean ... *B*O*R*I*N*G ?
This is the most fun day on r.m.s. I've had in quite some time!



Karl Haberl               | "With the U.S. Men's Olympic basketball team now
Internet: khaberl@bbn.com |  ahead by 25 points late in the second half, we're
                          |  going to make a judgment here and concede them
                          |  the game" - Bob Costas (NBC)
                             
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:06:23 PDT
Reply-To:     dunn@intellicorp.com
From:         Casey Dunn <DUNN@SAFFRON.BITNET>
Subject:      Survey on digital recording
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

hmm.

yes, mac or pc, inboard or outboard or fast scsi (if poss).
major ish is pricepoint per feature.

casey
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ptl@cs.tut.fi (Launiainen Petri)
Subject: GLIB to SYX format converter ?
Originator: ptl@naakka.cs.tut.fi
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:31:00 GMT

The patches at ucsd.edu seem to be in GLIB format.  Anyone out there
having a program that mangles GLIB to standard SYX format ? Or is there
more in the GLIB format than meets the eye ?

(Yes, I'll summarize if something pops up...)

/petri
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From: pixel@cbnewse.cb.att.com (william.j.sequeira)
Subject: Re: Ensoniq KS-32
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:59:28 GMT

In article <3928@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay) writes:
>In article <9207281838.AA01750@efftoo.boeing.com> crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM (crispen) writes:
>>metlay <metlay@MINERVA.PHYAST.PITT.EDU> sez:
>>>Humph. Well, for people who complain about light synth keyboards, I suppose
>>>this is easier to find and carry than a T8.
>
>>Oh, so we have a little girly man here, eh?  Can't you hang your
>>Steinway around your neck and boogie around the stage?  Better spend
>>some more time in the gym, metlay ;-)
>
>while carrying heavy keyboards, I leave such things to William Sequeira, who
>is in my experience the BIGGEST, MEANEST-LOOKIN' synth-dweeb on this group.
>"I know what you mean about the T8, Mike. Carrying it with one hand gets 
>kind of tough after a half hour or so." EEEK! |->

You mean the T8 was *not* a strap-on keyboard? Darn!! <sound of a shattered
past processed through a MIDIverb II's *large* room setting>....

Oh well, maybe a Trident Mk II will do then...


William

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From: ptl@cs.tut.fi (Launiainen Petri)
Subject: Windows 3.1 drivers for Dual MQX-32Ms ???
Originator: ptl@naakka.cs.tut.fi
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:54:59 GMT

Music Quest has drivers for multiple MQX-32M boards (they faxed me they
have it).  But it was four weeks ago and although they said they will
send them, nothing has shown up.  They are available at CompuServe:
has any kind soul loaded them up and could post them (uuencoded) to
me, or put them on cica.

Thanks,

/petri
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Tampere          # 
Finland          #                     - Murphy's second corollary

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:54:06 CDT
From:         "Jonathon Simon" <JSIMON@TRINITY.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NetJam is famous now! |->
              25 Jul 1992 18:31:58 -0400 from <kyle@RODAN.UU.NET>

Could someone please summarize, in one or two sentences, why netjam is
now famous.  I was out on vacation during Craig's original posting and I'm
curious to here what happened.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:30:19 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Will the real ALT.MUSIC.PROGRESSIVE please stand up!
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@ada3.ca.boeing.com

David Schick <schickda@MOT.COM> sez:

>Maybe what we really need
>is a further breakdown of the newsgroup 2make it more obvious 2the
>naive.  Some suggestions:
[...]
rec.music.synth.techno_synthbabes

Yo!  Consider this a RFD on that group!

And don't forget:

rec.music.synth.k2000_zealots
rec.music.synth.really_alt.controllers
rec.music.synth.i_just_got_this_months_keyboard

Bob
crispen@foxy.boeing.com

Crossposted to rec.music.synth.4op.fm.rules
From: arpraym@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: M1 controller pedal info
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:52:11 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <SYNTH-L%92072916294350@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>, Greg Johnson <CCGREG@MIZZOU1.BITNET> writes:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:50:28 GMT Ian said:
>>Can anyone tell me what is inside a controller footpedal for the
>>Korg M1? The genuine Korg pedal over here is quite expensive.
> 
>  [Stuff Deleted]
>
> 
> Some other manufacturer's pedals increase resistance in the other direction.
> Many have a 3 conductor potentiometer so they can be used either way.  Take
> an ohmmeter to a music store and see if they have any orphan or inexpensive
> pedal that fits the above curve, or at least has a maximum resistance of
> around 25K-30K ohms.  Then you'll have the fun of changing your M-1
> program's and combi's to recognize the pedal as volume control.  No global
> for this.  Hmm, maybe that's why I never warmed up my soldering iron....

Since when is there no global setting for the control of the 2 pedal outs
on the M1?

Ray MacNeil
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:20:22 CDT
From:         "Jonathon Simon" <JSIMON@TRINITY.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The K2000 vs. SY99 debate - SY99 Owner

On Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:11:38 GMT John T. Nelson said:
>In article <9207301520.AA19032@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
>JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:
>>
>>
>>As for MODULAR approaches.  What is so modular about a sequencer attached to
>>a synth with effects?  If you want to talk really modular (as in "That', like,
>>MODULAR, man!"), unless you are planning to talk Serge (i.e., probably the
>>only really modular synth still in production?), you're forced to talk K2000.
>>The whole point of VAST is it's modular approach.  The VAST acchitecture
>>has been reduced (to the user) as a set of modules (i.e., in the algorithms),
>>which are chosen and linked (as in MODULAR) in order to produce the desired
>>
>
>This is all very well and good but what does it SOUND like?  Can the K2000
>emulate an SY99?  Can it in any way compare to the gorgeous sound of the
>Korg 01/W Pro?!
If for a moment we just pretend the K2000 is simply a sample player, IMO
it'll blow away many of the O1/W samples.  Most impressive are its factory
drum samples.  Take your best headphones and an A/B switch and go compare
the K2000 stereo drums patch with the O1/W's best studio drum patch.  Play
with especially light velocity and you'll really see what I mean.  The
Korg sounds fine at loud velocities, but get soft and you really hear
a lot of yuk!  The K2000s, one the other hand, are the best (loud
or soft) of any synth or drum machine I've ever listened to.
>
>One thing I'm not pleased with is the limited poliphony of the K2000.
>Only 24 voices!  You loose 8 whole voices compared to say the Proteus
>or that wonderful Korg 01/W Pro!
Korg polyphony is really misrepresented.  It takes several layers for
each good Korg patch.  Each layer reduces (halfs) polyphony - layering (up to 4
layers, does not reduce polyphony on the K2000.
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:50:28 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: The K2000 vs. SY99 debate - SY99 Owner
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@ada3.ca.boeing.com

I think it's time for everybody to grovel humbly before Jonathon
Simon and admit that the K2000 is god, that nothing compares 2 u,
and that playing with RASP or JIAWG or HARM or whatever the OS is
is better than sex.  Maybe that'll shut him up and get us off this
*B*O*R*I*N*G* thread!

I mean, enough people have already said that whether you like the sound
of the K2000 better than the sound of something else was a mere matter
of opinion, and he didn't buy it!

So let's grovel.

Bob (my K-Mart Casio rules!)
crispen@foxy.boeing.com
From: webster.henr801c@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: re: SY99 has no peers
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:40:27 GMT


> There is no.. NO ... synthesizer currently available which is capable of more
powerful synthesis than the K2000.

Big deal -- I don't like the way it sounds.

Since when did technical ability become more important than sound?

marc webster
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Followup to my SY99/mega synth searches
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:09:17 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1992Jul27.195628.16564@cs.ubc.ca> croehrig@carib.cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.175158.21741@ads.com> jtn@ADS.COM (John T. Nelson)  
>writes:
>> Now Yamaha is coming out with the new SY85, a scaled down version of
>> the SY99.  It's basically an SY99 without the AFM (FM synthesis) part.
>Arrgh!!    Does this mark the end of FM synthesis from Yamaha?
>FM synthesis gives me one thing that I can't find on any other platform:
>the ability to easily change the _dynamics_ (or "action") of the  
>instrument in complex and interesting ways.   The joy of playing a  
>keyboard isn't in the whizz-bang sounds that it makes, it's in how it  
>responds to your playing....

I agree.  As much as I like other tone generation methods (including
those offered by the K2000), it's sometimes nice to be able to control
the timbre of a sound from the inside out.  Sure, pure additive
synthesis can provide similar control and expression but it's much
too tedious to manage (and who offers it these days).  I guess Yamaha 
was never able to completely erase the public's memory of those early 
cheesy DX7 patches.

I guess I'll have to keep an SY99 around for those times when I
need something truly unique that can't be imitated by other boxes.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
From: chris@clarinet.music (Chris Scudds)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sample CD's??
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:11:15 GMT
Reply-To: chris@uk.ac.gla.music
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service

Anyone got any sample CD recommendations? I've got the Zero-G datafiles
1 and 2, and a DAT of the industrial one, but I think I've used them to
exhaustion.

I use them mainly for rhythm loops, percussion sounds, and vocal hooks.

I've read good things about Coldcut's and Pascal Gabriel's CD's. What are
the best ones available in the States? What sort of prices are they?
50 pounds is the going rate in the UK ( about 95 dollars?? :-) ), for
a 60 minute CD with 99 tracks, around 10 samples per track.

I'd also be interested to hear of the sound quality as well as the quality  
of the mastering eg. how the levels match up. Zero-G manage this quite  
well, although using the S1000's digital I/O doesn't give you much choice!

Also note - I've just got a new job :-):-):-)
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From: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us (Joseph Nathan Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Why are there synths?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:17:39 EDT
Organization: 5 Sigma Software
Reply-To: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5


In article <walton.5@odie.ee.wits.ac.za> (rec.music.synth), walton@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Michael Walton) writes:
) 
) y(i) = b0.x(i) + b1.x(i-1) + b2.x(i-2) + b3.x(i-3) + b4.x(i-4)
)        - a1.y(i-1) - a2.y(i-2) - a3.y(i-3) - a4.y(i-4)
) 
) which means 9 multiplications and 8 additions per sample (i.e. 
) computationally expensive).

I don't know how you define "computationally expensive," but multiplies
on DSP chips are typically the same speed as addition and subtraction.
One machine cycle.  Division is slower (and usually strange).  This
has been true since the days of the TMS32k.  Shall I whip out the M56k 
manual ... naahhh ...

What bugs me are the lame digital filters "with resonance" found in
the late 80s era synths.  D110, for example.  Sometimes there's just
no substitute for the screaming resonance on that always-sliding-
out-of-tune Matrix-6.  Or even on my venerable old Juno-60.  The
MKS-50's wonderfully modern digitally-controlled analog filters are 
*not* the same, no way, not even close.  The D110's "resonance" ...
phooey!

Still hoping to get my own Ultra-Harmonizer or its successor ... can
you say, acoustic Cuisinart?  I mean, why bother with the Lexicon
when you can have ... IT.  So maybe next year.

---

Someone asked if I had corrections for Hal Chamberlin's book.  Alas, 
I don't.  I don't even have the 2nd edition.  Last I heard, which was
a while ago, he was working for Kurzweil.  Maybe *he* has the 
corrections.

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From: LUIS.ARMANDO.LUIS.THOMAS@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Luis A. Thomas")
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Yamaha TG99??
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:28:57 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Hi folks:
is there somebody out there who knows of the existance of the Yamaha TG99
(the rack version of the SY99). Is there a release date for this product or
is it on the market already.  If so, do you know where i can get it and
how much does it cost.

              Thanks.

Luis A. Thomas S.
LUIS.ARMANDO.LUIS.THOMAS@office.wang.com
From: nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Simon NUNIS)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:23:43 GMT
Subject: HELP with 4 track info
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

hi everyone!

seems like i need to ask this question once again...

well, basically i am looking for 4-track portastudios...i need some information
from all who have experience with this sort of machines...which ones?

well, basically, i am interested in the tascam and fostex stuff.

i would be particularly interested in the 424,488,644.
also the x-26,x280.

please email responses to :  nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com

thanks.

simon.
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From: metlay@venus.phyast.pitt.edu (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: Please help QUICK! M1 or SQ80? Urgent...
Summary: Wait a second here!
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:55:49 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Organization: Atomic City

In article <1992Jul24.182315.904@odin.corp.sgi.com> archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Benny the Bump) writes:
>In <NICK.92Jul24120851@vaila.ed.ac.uk> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:
>*It's not going to make you sound like him, you realise, even if this is
>*what you want.
>*
>Actually, it will.  That's how these things work.

Well, yes, but let's hold on a minute. It's obvious from the tone of the
original post that this is not what you would call a seeker of arcane
devices (apologies to David Bryan, wherever he and his evil twin are).
This is a kid who's getting started and has some cash to drop and wants
a fast in to the field, regardless of where it takes him eventually. And
whether or not we like it, the fact is that the M1 is the DX7 of the late
1980s, the machine every punter has around and everyone supports in some
form or another. If he never buys another instrument, he'll have a basic
decent sound palette, and with the sequencer and effects on board, he
can tuck his studio under his bed at night. And the SQ80 is much less
well known, and is IMO not as good a choice for someone who's starting
out and needs a machine that does things in a non-scary way.

So leave the kid alone. After packing up my studio today, I can see
where a setup consisting of one M1 would be handy....

--
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From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Subject: Re: Best Sequencer for IBM?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:22:32 GMT

In <63050@cup.portal.com> Darla@cup.portal.com (Kuby - Downs) writes:

*Mark,
*
*=>I know that a lot of these things are available on the market,
*=> but I would like to know what you people think the best 
*=>sequencer out there is.
*
*IMHO, for Windows, I would have to say the new Calkewalk
*for Windows, especially now with the new real notation
*editing features. I think it blows all the others away, including
*the passport series.
*
*For DOS, both Cakewalk and Voyetra are on top.
*

You might also consider Texture, if you are more interested in 
all out speed and interesting compositional features as opposed
to total and complete ease of use.

                    Archer Sully <archer@sgi.com>          

          "Whoso pulleth this linoleum knife from the mailman is 
                        King born of all England!"



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,rec.music.makers,rec.music.marketplace
From: lea@caleb.lbl.gov (Lon Amerman)
Subject: K4r for sale
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:56:14 GMT

 I have a Kawai K4r including 1 sound cartridge,
and an excellent ed/lib.

The ed/lib is for the Macintosh by Interval Systems. I haven't 
registered it, and the company *might* exchange it for another
format (I know they make an Atari version). It includes about 
8 banks of sounds (64 patches per bank plus multies).
 Original cost ~$130.

The sound cartridge is a ram card that provides for
additional single and multi storage.
 Original cost ~$80.

The K4r is in excellent condition and works without any
apparent bugs or glitches.
 
Also included: Kawai manual for K4/K4r and
Alexander Publishing book for K4 - volume 1: sound making.
(Volume 2 deals with the drum kit - I never bought it) 


 $465 (including shipping) 

reply to:
lon amerman 
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Berkeley Ca. 94720
wk. (510)486-5217
hm. (510)839-1714
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:55:58 CDT
From:         "Jonathon Simon" <JSIMON@TRINITY.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The K2000 vs. SY99 continued...

On Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:51:44 GMT John T. Nelson said:
>In article <920729171205.202092f7@SCSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU> "Richard L. Riccardi,
>SCSU Data Center" <RICCARDI_R@SCSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU> writes:
>>
>>"I really don't want to start rumors about a company, but what have you
>>heard about the K2000?  I heard it was a great machine, but we haven't
>>been able to get one that worked right.  We went through the 4 we had and
>>had to send all of them back because they were defective."
>>
>>It seems from everyone else on the net that they have boards that are OK,
>>but I found it a little disconcerting to hear 2 separate instances about
>>defectiveness.  Are these just isolated cases?
>
>"Wave Wankers", the place I looked at the SY99 at said they stopped
>carrying Kurzweil because the last 2 K1000Ps they had were both
>defective.  They couldn't demo a K2000 cause they refuse to carry
>them.
>
>This doesn't sound like a good trend.

No - what it sounds like is typical sales BS.  WW probably gave up their
dealership because they couldn't sell enough older Kurzweils.  Now, with
K2000's selling like hot cakes they probably wish they had it back.

K2000's did have some minor problems with internal connectors coming loose in
shipping early on, but that was corrected a long time ago.  Kurzweil was
quick to correct the problem, besides, it does not suprise me that a product
with a totally new design could hickup at the early production line.  Its not
likely the the O1/W would have production problems, since Korg keeps handing
us basically the same old M1 in a differnt box (for the last 3 years - i.e.
M1, T, T EX, O1/W).  While the Korg and Yamaha products have been evolution-
ary, the K2000 has been revolutionary.
From: rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Attention, Brian Rost.
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:23:15 GMT
Organization: Clear Light of Jupiter Records, Inc.

Brian, my mail to you keeps bouncing. I'd like to have the SH-101 if 
Michael decides against it. I don't need to see it and will eat UPS COD
shipping costs.

-Randy

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