From: deguc@holein1.Corp.Sun.COM (Bob Deguc)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Defined: National Police Force
Date: 14 Aug 1992 23:34:58 GMT
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In article crisp@netcom.com, crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp) writes:
> 
> Well you can bet that when Hitler started the SS and the Gestapo,
> they appeard different from the way they would up.

Comparing "Liberals" to Hitler doesn't cut it Mr. Crisp.  Hitler was 
right-wing, pro-business, pro-military, pro-"using secret government
departments to spy on the citizens".  That sounds like Nixon to me :^D.
All it does is make you (and your subsequent arguments) nothing more
than demagoguery.

> 
> The bottom line is this:
> 
> The Liberals are out to remove the weapons best suited for exercising
> the "ultimate recall power" from the people

Hmmmm, by "ultimate recall power" are you advocating the overthrow of
our government?  Better be careful, big brother might me listening :^D.

Seriously, the founding fathers made it damn near impossible for the
Constitution to be changed on a whim.  It would take a movement of
*biblical* proportions to change it.  Frankly, the NRA is much too
organized for that to happen.

> 
> They are trying to eliminate the 2nd Amendment to the Consititution
> thereby getting the inconvenient constitutional question out of the
> picture -forever

Puh-leaze!  In one form or another, someone, somehow, has been trying to
eliminate one or more of the first 10 amendments since it was adopted.

Also, please note that "forever" is along time.  Even prohibition was
reversed.

> 
> They want to establish a new Federal police force ostensibly to
> put retired military men to work keeping law and order (something
> they were never trained to do btw),

I guess you've never heard of the Military Police?

> {who will they report to, the
> President?}

Just like before (hint: these people will come from the military, who
did they report to before, Congress?). 


>Clearly this is the most dangerous candidate in the
> twentieth century.

Clearly bullsh*t!  I don't suppose you'd like to list EVERY person who has
run for President this century and *why* they would be a better choice than
Clinton? 

>He must be stopped!

Why, are you afraid he might actually be an improvement over Bush? 

> 
> 
> ----In plain English, so even a Liberal can understand it------
> When you set out to cook a frog, if you drop him in a pot of hot
> water, he jumps out. You have to start with cold water and slowly 
> heat it. By the time the frog realizes he`s being cooked, it is 
> too late!  This is their plan for us.

Now, in plain English, so even Mr. Crisp can understand it:

Fiddle-sticks! Not only would it require a 2/3's vote in Congress
but also 3/4ths of all the states!  Let's see, Texas=no, Colo=no,
Nev=no, Wa=no, Mont=no, ND=no, SD=no, Id=no, Or=no, Wy=no, La=no,
Ok=no, Al=no, Ms=no.  That's 14 states that I think that are *very*
pro-second amendment*.  That's enough (with one to spare) to block
the repeal of the 2nd amendment.

*= This is not a scientific analysis.  I have traveled quite a bit
of this country and these are states that I have seen a very strong
pro-second amendment lobby in (If I left out your state, I apologize).
If anyone has evidence that any of these states are anti-second
amendment, I'd like to see/hear it. 

> 
> WAKE UP AMERICA, we can still stop the totalitarian set-up
> from happening!

Yes, by all means.  If we call the Cupertino Police Dept, we can
have Mr. Crisp arrested for wanting to overthrow our government!  :^D

Again, seriously, you make it seem like it's just around the corner
(repeal of the 2nd amendment).  I wasn't even aware that it had cleared
the Congress.....



Bob De Guc
secure in my right to bear arms