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From: smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil (Sten M. Drescher)
Subject: Re: Lore and Tasha: 2 questions
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
	<1bin49INNaqu@roche.csl.sri.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:28:04 GMT

On 15 Oct 1992 03:04:41 GMT, fraser@cisco.com (Sean Fraser) said:
 Sean> John, I heard the same thing you did.  That she was asked
 Sean> politely to leave the show due to her posing for playboy
 Sean> magazine.  She couldn't well say she's leaving the show because
 Sean> she was caught posing nude.  Since Star Trek is geared/targeted
 Sean> as a family show i don't think she had a chance of staying on
 Sean> after the uncoverement of her past.
	I doubt that they would have dumped her since the photos were
published in '79.  At any rate, if they were going to dump here for
stills, Sirtis whould have been canned for her movie exploits.
-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------
Sten Drescher                  | There are men who seem like more than men.
AL/HRTI                        | Living examples of what we could be if we
Brooks AFB, TX 78235           | tried.  They are men of courage, compassion,
-------------------------------+ and justice.  On the other hand, there are
sdrescher@animal.brooks.af.mil | presidential candidates.

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From:  (Jose M. Molina)
Subject: What does it mean when...
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:41:51 GMT

Sorry to correct you Phil, but Geordi would NOT be the first to notice
Barclay's paling.  If you've noticed, every time the camera shoots from
Geordi's point of view, the image is severely distorted.  He also begs
Tasha (in "The Naked Now") to help him see in the normal human -- as he
calls it -- "shallow" fashion (i.e., the type that would enable him to see
skin tone).

Besides, Barclay didn't look any paler than usual!
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From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Subject: Re: Guinan and her secrets
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:20:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.124119.14164@newshost.unh.edu> ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
>In article <1658@dsinet> markw@chusuk (Mark Worrell) writes:
>>I dont think I have seen anybody talk about this yet. She is a member of
>>some long lived species, right? What was Guinan doing on Earth in the first
>>place?
>
>	I don't know...  I STILL say that she is a Timelord (or, would
>that be Timelady? ;-)), and that big hat is her Tardis... ;-)

They need to reveal a little more about the background Guinan.  It seems to me
that she is more powerful than what she appears to be.  Even Q seems to respect
her and keep a distance.  What's the deal?

Glenn..............
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Sybok....Vulcan Defense Attorney...
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:28:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct9.002854.4017
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Just for those who are interested, and since no one else seems to have
posted this, I was watching "Law and Order" (great show!) and the defense
attorney was real familiar, for some unknown reason.....

I kept picturing the actor as a Romulan....romulan...old romulan....and it
finally clicked! It was none other than Lawrance Luckenbill (sp?) who
played Spock's half-brother Sybok in Trek V.....

Dave
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From: cscf0022@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:24:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: ac.1992Oct15.122457.8169
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct14.000103.22824@grebyn.com>, rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.145646.3430@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>Because of the low quality of the recent episodes and the even lower
>>quality of the *promisings* of upcoming episodes, I am dropping
>>ST:TNG from my viewing schedule effective immediately. I will not be 
>>reviewing (or watching) "Relics", nor will there be any further episode 
>>reviews from this site.
> 
> Do you promise? Yes?
> 
> And there was much rejoicing.
>One down, how many more to go?
 
> 
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>> XX...: :XX  ::.: .  ..: XX   ..XX   : :    .:   :.:   .
>>:::XX::XX::::::::::.:::::: XX.XX:::..::::.:.:: :.:::: ::W
>>-----XX------------------- --XX---------------.------ ------------------------
>>KanXXorXXs Episode Ratings:XX XXt episode rated: "Man of the People") 
>>LXXe  nd:XX-1 dots = A-F XX    "XX-" = "Cost of Living" 
> XX         "XX = "don't XXow"   "W"XX"walked out" 
> -- 
> Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
>      '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
>  "Garth, marriage is punishment for shoplifting in some countries."
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Imzadi and Admiral Uhura
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:46:18 GMT

In article <os902821.719115081@ash> os902821@ash.canberra.edu.au (Scott David McLauchlan) writes:
>
>>But ST5 didn't happen, so [Uhura's] only good episode is "Mirror Mirror". 
>
>Hang on a tick! What's all this about ST5 not happening. Has there been
>some official anouncement about it, or is it something that fandom has
>decided?
>(I'm not being sarcastic, I really want to know.)

It was condemned by Gene R., and that's good enough for me...

Many consider it non-canon because:
       
     Everyone was acting extremely out of character (Doohan is still
     pissed about the misuse of Scotty).

     Some scenes are impossible (such as the elevator shaft with the 
     ridiculous numbering, a FAQ on ras.tech).

     Gene hated it.

     Nimbus III could not have been colonized by the three races at 
     the time mentioned, because humans had not seen Romulans yet.

     Spock could not possibly have been born naturally (blood
     poisoning.)  
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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell)
Subject: Re: Realm of Fear: space worms ???
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:41:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct07.041612.24518@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>In article <91310@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> rhaar@albert.cs.gmr.com writes:
>>In article 22610@ra.msstate.edu, rat1@me1.MsState.Edu (Robert Thompson) writes:
>>> Paraphrase: Just where were the Yosimiti(sp?) crew beaming to?
>>They weren't going anywhere. They were trying to remove the 
>>plasma organisms that infected the four crewmen in the same way the
>>the Enterprise disinfected Barclay. 
>
>But why? You get the parasites during transport. Therefore they were
>transporting somewhere. Where were they going?

Transporting was one way to get the parasites.

The other way was to be hanging around when the plasma container
burst and parasites flying everywhere.

Flip


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From: smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil (Sten M. Drescher)
Subject: Capt. Scott (Was: Re: SPOILEReview: "Man of the People")
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:49:26 GMT

Spoiler?




































In article <92286.120250CH8305A@auvm.american.edu> Charles Hessenius <CH8305A@auvm.american.edu> writes:

   after saving everyone else on his ship.)  Also, my TV weekly referred to the
   discovery of CAPT. Scott.  Good for him.  A friend of mine predicts that he
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	How so?  He was promoted to Captain no later than ST3 (remember
- he was Captain of Engineering of the Excelsior, and he WAS wearing
Capt rank), so he's been Capt. Scott for quite a while.-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------
Sten Drescher                  | There are men who seem like more than men.
AL/HRTI                        | Living examples of what we could be if we
Brooks AFB, TX 78235           | tried.  They are men of courage, compassion,
-------------------------------+ and justice.  On the other hand, there are
sdrescher@animal.brooks.af.mil | presidential candidates.

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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:00:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.140955.15823@newshost.unh.edu> ras@kepler.unh.edu (Robert A Seace) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.191208.29970@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>
>[45 lines of Atsushi-bashing deleted...]
>
>>Opinion wholeheartedly seconded!!
>>Anyonce care to third it
>
>[opinion regarding quoting entire long article to second opinion deleted]
>
>Anyone care to second this opinion? ;-) 

Absolutely!  Did I trim this enough? :)

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From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Sillier Thought on "Man of the People"
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:42:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>Was I the only one expecting at the end for them to put the ambassador's
>"magic rocks" into the vault in the Curious Goods shop?
>

After the "rock" ceremony and Troi getting very hot and being drawn to the
ambassador like a rabbit in heat, I just kept thinking of the Hill Street 
Blues line:

	"That guy's got stones!"

>   Pulaski walked to the Turboshaft doors, stepped in, and plummeted down
>ninety-nine floors, yelling, "Dammit, Jean-Luc!  I'm a doctor, not a
>skydiver!"
>She landed with a resounding thump and croaked, "I've fallen, and I can't get
>up!"
>   "She's dead, Jean-Luc," announced Dr. Beverly Crusher.
>                                -excerpt from "Still Looking for Things"
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Does this actually exist? where can I find it?

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine
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From: Rannou@info.polymtl.ca (Patrick Rannou)
Subject: Re: Time-loop flaw in Time's Arrow II
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:12:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.184234.28750@tin.monsanto.com> lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:


   In article <1992Oct2.164427.20584@nmsu.edu>, ssubrama@dante.nmsu.edu (SUBRAMANIAM) writes:
   > 
   > Hi netters,
   > 	Has anyone noticed a flaw in Time's Arrow II.  When Samuel Clemens
   > comes to the enterprise, he sees his watch and someone (I think Geordi) tells
   > him that they found it in the cavern along with data's head.  That means
   > that the watch is 500+ years old.  Clemens takes the watch goes back to the
   > 19th century and leaves it in the cave.  That means the watch would be 1000+
   > years old in the next loop. That cannot happen.  If everything happened as I
   > have mentioned here in TA II, then the flaw is present.  Can someone confirm
   > my observation or am I wrong in perceiving the events.

   No, Clemens took the 500-year-old watch back, but left his then-new watch in
   the cavern when he realized he already had one in his pocket (the old one).
   Hmmm - I wonder what would have happened if he decided to test "fate" and
   take BOTH watches with him when he left the cavern...would the old one
   disappear, since it was never there?

Well, he's not stupid. He know there was this tiny minute chance that the
moment he do that, BOOOOM! The universerve ceases to exist...

So he did the wise thing...



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From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Subject: Re: Elementary, Dear Data Question.
Keywords: How
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:21:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.112051.10441@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
>Good question, but it has to be no. When they originally made the episode they
>did not get permission to whoever owns the rights to things Sherlock Holmes
>related. They almost got sued! If they want to do another one they have to
>first get permission and they pay money for the right to use it. Since their
>budget per episode is so high as it is they probably won't do it anytime soon.

Interesting.  This is the second time someone has posted about legal
problems with using Sherlock Holmes characters.  Recently, however, I
read that the copyrights on the characters have expired long ago,
and thus they can be freely used by anyone.  This is why, the story said,
there are many games involving Sherlock Holmes (this was from an article
in a video game magazine).

So does anyone know the real story?  Was Paramount almost sued, or not?

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From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Relics (no spoilers)
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:24:54 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I just saw this one on the satellite last night, and I won't say anything
that will spoil what wasn't in the previews last week...

But for those who really don't watch the previews...



This is the so-called "Scotty" episode.  For die-hard Trek fans, this is
one you've got to see.  True, there is a lot of nastalgia and the action
plot is underdeveloped, but the parts that they did develop were mostly
well done.  (Well, I could name two specific flaws and it seems like one
scene got cut by the editors making it even more confusing, but still the
overall effect of the episode was a success in my book.)

As to their explaining how things got to be where they were, the appearance
of Scotty seemed perfectly reasonable.

Spoilers in my next post...

--PC

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From: mjm4@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael J McNaughty)
Subject: Re: Paramount Press Release - #233: Rascals
Reply-To: mjm4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:43:20 GMT

Hmm... is it just me or do the writers for Star Trek tend to get stuck on 
certain plot devices and never leave them? Last year, during the fifth
season there seemed to be a lot political episodes right in a row such as
Darmok (very good), Ensign Ro, and some others. This year there seems to
be this obession with using the transporter as a plot device.
(Realm of Fear, Relics, and Rascals). 

Does anyone know if the writers for ST:TNG are starting to get burnt out,
or if there is some other reason for this strange occurence?

-- 
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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:48:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: cup.Bw76oH.F27
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Timothy W. Lynch (tlynch@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
>Time to grow up.

Awww.  You're no fun...

Of course, others seem to hold another opinion. :-)

Mark Runyan {r.a.s. random rat}
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From: dgp7686@usl.edu (Piontek Daniel G)
Subject: test
Keywords: test 
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:24:44 GMT

This is a test.
From: filter@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (jonatha t filter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lore and Tasha: 2 questions
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:45:35 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

In article <Bvuw1M.9Lq@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese) writes:
>>I believe Lore just floated around in space ... and it turned out Dr. Soong
>>wasn't dead after all.  That's a common enough device in soap operas ....
>
>
>Yes, he floated around until he met up with the Crystalline Entity, which
>rescued him. In the next episode we see him, he brings his buddy, the
>Crystalline Entity, to the Enterprise to gobble everyone up.
>
>Jean

I believe that if you watch "Brothers" again (which is the second time that
we see Lore -- the first being "DataLore")  Lore says that he floated in 
space for 2 years before he was picked up by a Pakled ship ("Lore is smart...
this is Reginod, he's my friend...Reginod is not smart.  Lore is strong...")
Also, I don't think Lore had anything to do with the Crystalline Entity the
second time since the whole plot revolved around the revenge factor of the
scientist.

-Jon
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From: rhballan@eos.ncsu.edu (ROBERT HAMI BALLANTINE)
Subject: Re: Paramount Press Release - #233: Rascals
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:25:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.084455.10512@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>[cast listing....]
>: 
>: 	Alexander				Brian Bonsall
>
>I dont like the looks of this already.......
>
>: 	Young Picard				David Tristan Birkin
>: 	Young Guinan				Isis Jones
>: 	Young Keiko				Caroline Junko King
>
>I REALLY dont like the sound of this anymore.....
>
>: 	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: A bizarre transporter mishap transform
>: 	Picard and three other staff members into children just as Ferengis
>: 	invade and disable the ship.
>: 
>: 	CHILD'S PLAY!
>: 
>: 	An accident turns Picard and three others into 12-year-old children!
>: 
>Its been proven enough times before....TNG just CANT do stories involving
>children (the only good one IMHO is the one way back in seaon 1...)
>
>And of course, this sounds like it has been done millions of times before
>(ie cartoons), so this could be really cheezy......
>
>-- 
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>      //         | Senior, Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Toledo
>  \\ // Only the |   Summer Intern, NASA Lewis Research Center
>\  \X/   AMIGA!  |         mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu           /

Actually, 'Disaster' was a good episode that involved children.
The children weren't the main characters of the episode but they
did help Picard.

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From: bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Beverly Woolf)
Subject: Re: O'Brien's Rank [THE FINAL ANSWER]
Organization: ProLine [pro-woolf] The Woolf's Den BBS & Vintage Hobbies
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 09:31:35 MDT

In <Bvu5FB.HJu@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:

>In article <ewright.718580087@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>>
>>>1. Troi's rank (the one un'pip'ped officer!).
>>
>>Troi was mentioned in Disaster as a Lieutenant Commander.  However, 
>>various people associated with the show have explained her "uniform"
>>by saying that she is no longer an active duty officer but a civilian 
>>advisor.
>
>Who said that?
>
>I prefer the theory that she wears that so that her patients don't think
>"Aye Aye Lieutenant Commander Troi yes MA'AM!!!!".  Not exactly the
>attidtude a crewman should have toward his psychiatrist.  
>
>

My husband is training to be psychiatric specialist in the Army.  For his OJT
at the VA Hospital, he was told his uniform was to be civilian clothes.  We
don't know what his uniform is to be once he gets to Walter Reed.


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From: jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: No more "Opinionated Comments"
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:48:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw2H90.171
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
:)Because of the low quality of the recent episodes and the even lower
:)quality of the *promisings* of upcoming episodes, I am dropping
:)ST:TNG from my viewing schedule effective immediately. I will not be 
:)reviewing (or watching) "Relics", nor will there be any further episode 
:)reviews from this site.


Well, Relics was a REALLY good episode, but Atsushi prolly wouldn't have
liked it anyway. It wasn't an Atsushi episode.  :)
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