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From:         "(The Caterpillar Cannot Understand The Butterfly)"
              <salsbury@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Uh-oh! Looks like the Free Market is at it again!

Hey! Looks like AMIX has some competition... :)
Pat
______________________________Think for yourself_______________________________
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Subject:
From: blackman@acsu.buffalo.edu
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 9:32:21 EDT
To: salsbury@acsu.buffalo.edu

Now, distribute info and get paid for it with no hassles. Mount your info,
programs, files, whatever, onto our system. When others call in and
retrieve you rfile, they put the charge on a credit card and then get the
file. You get paid a royalty.
Simple. Now get paid for your knowledge, your compilations..become an
electroniclaly published author the saem day.
Here's what you would do:
Send us an abstract of the file, note file size, up to 50 words of an
abstract, adn the price you think is fair to charge callers. While we will
hope to accept all file submissions, we reserve right NOT to accept a
file. We will look over your abstract and e-mail you back re:
acceptability, desire, royalty rate. , etc. If you want to proceed, upload
the file. We will put the abstract and title on our menu, and we will have
all abstracts searchable. Callers amy dial in with modem or through Internet.
Have a report, a list of Internet resources, a good explanation of a
difficult concept? A good FAQ file? Did you write some articles, a book,
or just bursting with good info that others would pay for? Have an
electronic journal, newsletter?

We will be testing this beta thru the end of 1992, adn ready to go public
by year end. Right now, we are interestd in hearing from information
providers and we need to know:
what type of inof do you think youi could mount on our system?
what size file/
What type info?
What do you think a fair price would be to charge callers for your file?

We are hoing that $2 to $7 cahrges will be common..keep the cost real low,
and you will find that you will make it up in volume... and users/cllaers
get real good value for their money.

Let us know.... we will advise when system is ready to accept files.. the
first ones will be the ones tht respond with basic info. We aren't going
to hold you to this info, we just wnat to get an idea of what types of
info, file size, costs might be involved. We will set aside 300 mb at
first, but I expect that won't be enough for long!

Thanks,

Greg & Matt
Global Document Clearinghouse
e-mail to neta@holonet.net
From: bw@WS029.TORREYPINESCA.NCR.COM (Bruce White 3807)
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Subject: How to make big $ with Neil Smith's Fantasy Fest
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:33:29 GMT
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Find a company which puts "chimps and gorillas on the payroll."


Sell short.
From: a_trapp@QMGATE.ANL.GOV (A Trapp)
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Subject: More smart drug questions
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:58:37 GMT
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Argonne National Laboratory E-Mail Memo                         Time: 2:45 PM
Subject:    More smart drug questions                           Date:
11/17/92
I have a few more questions about smart drugs to add to those asked a couple
weeks ago:

1.  Hydergine, as many of you know, is a prescription drug here in the U.S.
Does one need a doctor's prescription to order it from an overseas company?
2.  To those who take Hydergine, approximately how much do you pay for it?  The
cheapest I've seen it is $29 for 100x5mg from a Chech. company.
3.  I would appreciate any pointers as to where I could find out more about a
drug called KH3.  I am aware of the reference in the Phys. Guide to Life
Extension Drugs but would like to know more about it.

Thank you for any help you can provide me.
--
Andrew Trapp
a_trapp@qmgate.anl.gov
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:37:08 GMT
Reply-To:     CNUSC operator <PUPITRE@FRMOP11.BITNET>
From:         CNUSC operator <PUPITRE@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Subject:      Computer shutdown/link failure
Comments: To: NAD-F@FRMOP11.BITNET

 the lines between:
FRMOP22 and CIRCE, FRMOP22 and CNUSC,
will be down from the 27/11/92 (06:00)  to the 28/11/92 (06:00) (local time).
due to a maintenance communications controllers (at circe),all the lines
between circe and cnusc,will be down the27/11/92 at 06h00 to the 28/11/92
Sorry for any inconveniences.

CNUSC Operator
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:16:00 MET
Reply-To:     "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
From:         "SARA Network Information Centre" <NIC@SARA.NL>
Subject:      Upgrade SURFnet cisco's vanavond afgelast.
Comments: To: linkfail@nic.SURFnet.nl, sn-ipman@nic.SURFnet.nl

L.S.

De voor vanavond aangekondigde upgrade (CSC-4) van de cisco's van
Delft, Nijmegen en Utrecht is afgelast i.v.m. het niet beschikbaar
zijn van een deel van de benodigde firmware.

Romeo Zwart
SARA Netwerkgroep
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:46:19 EST
Reply-To:     Mark Bodenstein <MAB@CORNELLC.BITNET>
From:         Mark Bodenstein <MAB@CORNELLC.BITNET>
Subject:      CORNELLC VMNET links were down for about 12 hours

Our VMNET machine is in FORCE/LOGOFF pending state.  I just brought up
an alternate server, and we're now back on the Bitnet air.  Our VMNET
links were down about 12 hours.  Sorry for the inconvenience!

Mark Bodenstein  (mab@cornellc; 607-255-8059)
Cornell Bitnet Techrep
From: AXG2SJU@SJUMUSIC.BITNET (Mike Siciliano)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.linkfail
Subject: I have a question
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:36:48 GMT
Reply-To: Mike Siciliano <AXG2SJU@SJUMUSIC.BITNET>
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I am not a sysadmin, I simply subscribe to the list to see if
some links go down that may affect my system.  I have a question.
Is the link to MARIST down for repair?  I have been unable to telnet
to the college's system where I have an account there for close to
two days.  I didn't know which list to ask, so I thought this might
be the most approriate.


          -Mike Siciliano


Mike Siciliano               Home Account---AXG2SJU@SJUMUSIC.STJOHNS.EDU
klac@musicb.marist.edu                       darian@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
msicilia@nyx.cs.du.edu                    msicilia@heartland.bradley.edu
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
- The world's best remedy for link lag.  GET OFF THE COMPUTER!
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Organization: Princeton University, Network Systems, Class. 56
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:38:03 -0500
Reply-To:     gettes@PRINCETON.EDU
From:         gettes@PRINCETON.EDU
Subject:      Princeton Power Outage - Nov. 26, 1992
Comments: cc: pits@Princeton.EDU

On Thursday, Nov. 26 at 10pm EST the Princeton University Computing Center
will be powered down for installation of a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply).
The expected downtime is 24 hours but we hope it will be shorter.
This will affect all BITNET and Internet services provided by PUCC/PUNFSV2.
Connectivity to France, Japan and part of the NorthEast region of the
United States will be affected for BITNET. INTERBIT/UUCPGATE and BITFTP services
will be delayed. All files will be queued and no mail or files are expected
to be lost during this downtime.

We apologise for the inconvenience but we hope this will allow us to provide
better service to the Princeton community as well as the rest of the network.

/mrg
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:18:27 EST
Reply-To:     Bruce Crabill <BRUCE@UMDD.BITNET>
From:         Bruce Crabill <BRUCE@UMDD.BITNET>
Subject:      Upcoming Univ. of Maryland downtime
Comments: cc: Jerome Bennet <BENNETT@DFTBIT.BITNET>,
          Scott Shigo <SHIGO@GWUVM.BITNET>,
          Alexandre Grojsgold <ALGOLD@LNCC2.BITNET>,
          Linda Pelleu <LJP@NBSENH.BITNET>, Roger Fajman <RAF@NIHCU.BITNET>,
          Victor Cid <VCID@UCHCECVM.BITNET>, Michael Karas <KARAS@USUHS.BITNET>

As part of a cost reduction at the Univ. of Maryland, our academic and
administrative computer centers are being merged to share a single
physical machine (but with seperate staffs).  This merger will cause
several small communications outages.  We are attempting to keep these
as short as possible and will moving only one or two of our physical
BITNET lines at a time (unfortunately, it was the academic machine that
is getting tossed and we have to move everything to another building
on campus).  In order to limit the down time to those sites down wind
of us, we are playing some games with RSCS so that for a period there
will be two UMDD2s (the existing one and the one on the new machine).
This eliminates the sites that are connected to us from having to change
their tables during this move, in fact the only outage that they should
see is when the local telephone company does the physical move of the
line to the new building.  These moves are scheduled to start around the
first week of December and should be completed in a week or two, by
Christmas at the latest.  We are doing our best to minimize the grief to
the BITNET community and apologize in advance of any problems that may
occur during this move.  Wish us luck...

                                       Bruce
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:34:38 EST
Reply-To:     Sheila Patterson <SFP@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>
From:         Sheila Patterson <SFP@CORNELLC.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      CornellC down until an IPL
Comments: To: linkfail@uga.cc.uga.edu,
          CR-SYS list <CR-SYS-L@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          nmc-ops@nmc.cit.cornell.edu,
          Randall Smith <RSM@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Angela Malone <ANG@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Eric Nicoson <ETN@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Dan Miller <DM2X@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Jay Howell <JAY@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Jennifer Signor <JEN@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Ken Frost <KCF@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Larry Thorpe <LRTY@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Maureen Quillinan <MAQ@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Patrick Washburn <PJWJ@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Peter Skura <PWS@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Ron Chrzaszcz <RCZ@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Bill Biata <WAB@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>,
          Guy Burgman <GB6@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>

While trying to 'fix' our vmnet links to MITVMA2 and UMDD2 I managed to
get our vmnet server in a logoff/force pending state.

I think I'll go home now.....   *sigh*  I will schedule an IPL of CornellC
for sometime when the production schedule isn't affected (this may mean
waiting until early morning tomorrow) .

Sheila Patterson, Systems
321 CCC - Cornell University
Ithaca, NY  14853
(607) 255-5388
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:47:48 MEZ
Reply-To:     Zettl Friedrich <Z00ZER01@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UNIVIE.AC.AT>
From:         Zettl Friedrich <Z00ZER01@AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UNIVIE.AC.AT>
Subject:      AEARN Down 23Nov92

Due to system maintenance  AEARN
will be down the 23. Nov. 92 from 03:00 to 07:00 local time (UTC+1)

International nodes isolated: ATGBOX, BGCICT, BGEARN, CSEARN, HUEARN

All national nodes in Austria are isolated.

Sorry for any inconveniences.   F. ZETTL
From: kennethg@sci.kun.nl (Kenneth van Grinsven)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.linkfail
Subject: improvement?
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:33:14 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

Hello,
lately (which is the last few months), i very often get the message:
"Network is unreachable" 
when i try to finger at a host in the New-York area; so also
talking with a user on a host there is impossible.
And when the network is reachable, then the link is horrible.
The problem seems to be somewhere in the USA, as i can reach both european
and USA hosts, yet not those around New York. 
(For example, vaxsar.vassar.edu or hartwick.edu)
Now i am wondering whether the people who can solve this problem are aware
of this, as this has been going on for months now. Or whether it will be 
solved some time, or that i should try to find another route to those
hosts. 
I would be very pleased if someone could provide me with more information
about this.
Greetings,
Kenneth van Grinsven
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:25:02 MEZ
Reply-To:     "Erwin M. Halpern" <EARNADM@AEARN.BITNET>
From:         "Erwin M. Halpern" <EARNADM@AEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Big queues
Comments: To: "Network Operations Group" <EARN-NOG@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Comments: cc: pits@Princeton.EDU

Also big queues are on the ATGBOX to BGCICT, BGEARN. The reason is
that there seem to be problems with the Bulgarian X.25. They are not
able to make a X.25/DECNET connection for one Week. Also it is
impossible to send a Fax to Bulgaria since yesterday.
We keep all files on the ATGBOX as long as there are enough disk-quota.
Afterwards I will shut down the Link AEARN-ATGBOX and keep the files
on the IBM.

I do not know what kind of problem this is in Bulgaria nor do I know
how long downtime will be. I will try again and again to contact
Bulgaria via Fax or phone.

Greetings

/Erwin


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please delete me from the mailing list
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:03:45 +1000
From:         Michael Smithson <bhmjs@MARLIN.JCU.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Meaning of transformations

The recent discussion on the interpretability of transformations is
pertinent, I think, to concerns shared by a number of us. I'd like
to add my own penny's-worth, by way of claiming that under some
conditions we may not have to suffer the cost in substantive inter-
pretability to which Walter Davis refers.

If you have monopolar raw scales (whether unbounded or not), then
a fuzzy set interpretation for certain kinds of commonly used
transformations is possible. The key idea is to think of the monopolar
raw scale as if it's a fuzzy set with strong members denoted by high
scores and weak or marginal members by low scores (e.g., annual
income as an indicator of how strongly someone is a member of the
set of really high income-earners).

Here's a potted example (although it's much easier to get across with
the help of graphs):

A right-skewed distribution could be thought of as a very exclusive
fuzzy set, in the sense that there are only a few strong members
(these are the outliers up on the right-hand extreme of the scale).
A right-skew correcting transformation compresses the right-
hand (upper) end of the scale relative to the left-hand (lower) end,
and in some cases extends the left-hand end somewhat as well.
The effect is to bring the high-scoring outliers closer to the bulk of
the scores further down the scale (i.e., closer to those who are not
good members of the set).  The transformed scale is therefore like a
less exclusive set than its original counterpart. In fuzzy set terms,
the transformation has "dilated" the set. Taking the log of income,
for instance, is akin to rescaling everyone in terms of the extent
to which they are members of the set of people who earn at least
a 'moderately high' income.

The analogous argument may be made to interpret left-skew correct-
ing transformations as fuzzy set "concentrators", whose scales behave
like more exclusive fuzzy sets than their originals.

I also have fuzzy set interpretations of kurtosis-altering transformations,
but I fear this posting is long enough already. If anyone is interested in
further information or a reference for this approach, please feel free
to get in touch with me.

Mike Smithson
Behavioural Sciences                       bhmjs@marlin.jcu.edu.au
James Cook University
Queensland 4811 Australia
From: WDAVIS@UNCVM1.BITNET (Walter Davis)
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Subject: Re: the meaning of transformations
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:30:51 GMT
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              17 Nov 1992 15:55:45 +0000 from <BS_S467@NEPTUNE.KINGSTON.AC.UK>

On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:55:45 +0000 Stephen Gourlay said:
>In the discussion of testing assumptions, someone mentioned transformations.
>
>I have always had a problem with these, namely, that whilst I know that my
>data represented e.g. counts of something, I cannot figure out a
>non-mathematical understanding of what transformed counts mean.  As a result
>I am very reluctant to transform data just to 'make it fit'.
>

I tend to agree with Stephen that transforming variables to the point
of uninterpretability is generally not useful.  For example what would
be the substantive interpretation of the effect of the arccosine of X
on the eighth root of Y.  You may laugh, but I TA'd for a grad stats
course in which for the final we gave them a mystery data set and
one student actually tried an eighth root transformation (and,
naturally, the variables actually came from a normal distribution,
it was just a somewhat odd-looking sample).

There are some transformations with useful interpretations however.
For example, log transformations allow for interpretation in terms
of elasticity (or percentage changes).  If the model is of the form
lnY=BlnX then a 1% change in X leads to an expected B% change in Y
(lin-log and log-lin have variations of this interpretation).  Also
odds or logit transformations of proportion variables have good
substantive interpretations and often have 'better' distributions.

I'm not ruling out complex transformations, I'm simply trying to say
that a simpler transformation (or none) which gives a nearly as good
fit as a complex one is often preferable especially with regards to
substantive interpretation.  If a complex transformation is needed,
one means of interpretation is to pick a set of meaningful values
for the variables (in their raw forms), work through all the
transformations, then produce a predicted value.  Then change one of
the variables one raw unit, reapply the transformations and see
how large the shift in the dependent variable is.  In general you
may want to pick more than one set of values at which to evaluate
the effects.  This technique is fairly simple when your main
interest is in the effects of a small set of variables.

hope this helps,

Walter Davis <WDAVIS@UNCVM1>
Department of Sociology
Institute for Research in Social Science
UNC - Chapel Hill
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:09:37 GMT
From:         Ronan M Conroy <RCONROY@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      Re: Normal probability plots

Frank Dane mentioned the use of the Chi-squared test to compare
a distribution against the normal. My impression is the Kolmogorov-
Smirnov test (I spell that in utter trepidation!) is a better
test, though leafing through the references I have I cannot
support the contention. Has anyone a piece of data to prop
up my opinion (or to overturn it, dammit - go on, hit me, I
can take it).

ronan
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:26:49 EST
From:         "D. Glen McPherson" <mcphers@HILBERT.MATHS.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Tests for assumptions

While ANOVA is fairly robust against departures from the equality of variance
assumption, it is a rare experimenter who is happy to stop statistical analysis
having discovered that there is evidence to reject the hypothesis that all
treatments have the same effect. Typically, such a finding is followed by
pairwise comparisons which seek to establish which treatments have different
effects. Such procedures are definitely not robust against unequal variances
and may lead to serious errors in conclusions.
My consulting experience suggests that it is common for unequal variances
to be associated with other departures from the standard model, and there is
much to be gained in encouraging non-statisticians to perform simple model
and data checking as a routine part of their analyses. I am not advocating
the use of a battery of formal tests. I encourage the use of a Normal
probability plot and a plot of standardized residuals versus fitted values
as providing simple visual checking. Blatant departures from standard
assumptions can be seen in these graphs.

Regards,  Glen.

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From:         "Laura E. Tarver" <ltarver@EMX.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>

Please unsubcribe me from the mailing list.  I have been unsuccessful with
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From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Subject: Re: Essential book list
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:41:00 GMT

In <9211230745.AA00168@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au> mcphers@HILBERT.MATHS.UTAS.EDU.AU (D. Glen McPherson) writes:

>Below is the first presentation of an edited list of books which have been
>suggested by members.

The list is quite useful - thanks, Glen.

>***
>There is a book by Cleveland which provides sound practical advice on
>graphical selection - can someone give me its title and other details
>please?
>***


William S. Cleveland.  _The elemanets of graphing data_.  Wadsworth:
Monterey, 1985.
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