From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Subject: Re: Is it...Jacobian Meyers?
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 14:00:35 GMT

In article <2101@tymix.Tymnet.COM> baba@Tymnet.com (Duane Hentrich) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.192246.14634@ll.mit.edu>, yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>|> 	I never claimed to have anything to offer.  *You* have.
>|> 	But you offer nothing!
>
>I think one of the dangers here is that one could misread Alan's posting
>as an attack upon an individual (Anne) when it seems, from watching his
>posts for a while that these types of attacks are aimed at everyone that 
>doesn't have an immediate and effective solution to his personal problem.


	I have heard/seen this one before.  Might I duelly state/ask
	that I have not expressed any "personal problems" here,
	and when have I asked for anything?

	It's you poor bastards who pay over 50% of your pay who are
	the ones in need here, not me.  And it has been you who, on occasion,
	have lit fires about rallying together, making a difference,
	and so forth.

	I think one poster said it quite well while possible in a
	facecious or incorrect way.  "Maybe the key to the whole thing
	is the states keeping their own private juristictions so that
	no one force can overcome all the little governments" Or
	something like that.

	It is, in fact, the federal government which is forcing states
	to abide by their criminal guidelines. Isn't this the crux
	of it?  And it is this very element of modularity by state
	which turns conversation on this net into meaningless dribble.


	Why not focus on the main problem, instead of all the results?
	Instead of putting out the fire, why don't we just turn off
	the well?

	Someone said, "Put you money where your mouth is".  Leadership
	is what's needed.  I am not Moses. Nor am I qualified to be.

	That's why I simply state that people who have both the interest
	and capablity do the job.  But let me end with this one thought
	which you will hopefully take seriouly.

	In the case of Annie (or any other knowledgable person) I have
	not even seen a paragraph of serious conversation about
	the implications of a "class action suit". Is it a stupid idea?
	Is it a good one?  I think it's self evident that it's not easy.

	But all I've seen are posts like, "It's not my job, I won't
	do it."  And, "It's too expensive."  And those are responses
	to my flames.

	Give me a break people.  You're all always running stuff up the
	plagpole.  Yet when *I* push a particular subject, and none
	of you respond, I get pissed.  So *I* say so.  Then somehow
	*I* am wrong.  It's not me.  It's *you*.  *You* never answered
	my point.  And for people who like to bullshit your way
	through your day, I'd at least think I'd get *some* kind
	of educated answer to a reasonable idea, rather than to get
	put on the chopping block for taking people to task who *claim*
	to care.

-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
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