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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: Should 'Michailidis' have his posting privileges yanked?
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:29:55 GMT





<1992Aug17.175244.20844@parc.xerox.com>
michaili@wakeman.EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Spyros Michailidis)

>Good idea, but here's a perhaps more interesting variation:
>How about forwarding *all* his postings back to his personal account?

Who says 'palikaryas' are no damn good. Scared of the truth?

 Peter Moorhead reporting from the village of Skyloura, Cyprus. 
 Date : 1 January, 1964. 

 IL GIARNO (Italy)
 
 THEY ARE TURK-HUNTING, THEY WANT TO EXTERMINATE THEM.

 Discussions start in London; in Cyprus terror continues. Right now we
 are witnessing the exodus of Turks from the villages. Thousands of people
 abandoning homes, land, herds; Greek Cypriot terrorism is relentless. This 
 time, the rhetoric of the Hellenes and the bust of Plato do not suffice to 
 cover up barbaric and ferocious behaviors.

 Article by Giorgo Bocca, Correspondent of Il Giorno
 Date: 14 January 1964

 DAILY HERALD (London)

 AN APPALLING SIGHT

And when I came across the Turkish homes they were an appalling sight.
Apart from the walls, they just did not exist. I doubt if a napalm bomb
attack could have created more devastation. I counted 40 blackened brick
and concrete shells that had once been homes. Each house had been deliberately
fired by petrol. Under red tile roofs which had caved in, I found a twisted
mass of bed springs, children's conts and cribs, and ankle deep grey
ashes of what had once been chairs, tables and wardrobes.

In the neighbouring village of Ayios Vassilios, a mile away, I counted 16 
wrecked and burned out homes. They were all Turkish Cypriot homes. From
this village more than 100 Turkish Cypriots had also vanished.In neither village
did I find a scrap of damage to any Greek Cypriot house.

Date: 1 January, 1964.

 DAILY TELEGRAPH (London)
 
 GRAVES OF 12 SHOT TURKISH CYPRIOTS FOUND IN CYPRUS VILLAGE

 Silent crowds gathered tonight outside the Red Crescent hospital in the
 Turkish Sector of Nicosia, as the bodies of 9 Turkish Cypriots found
 crudely buried outside the village of Ayios Vassilios, 13 miles away, were
 brought to the hospital under the escort of the Parachute Regiment. Three 
 more bodies, including one of a woman, were discovered nearby but could
 not be removed. Turkish Cypriots guarded by paratroops are still trying to 
 locate the bodies of 20 more believed to have been buried on the same site.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)

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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: 'Shneyder' Enjoys 'The Armenian Genocide Of The Muslim People.'
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:19:23 GMT





<1732@hsdndev.UUCP>
nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)

>H----, come out, come out wherever you are.  I know you're listening,

Moths are bad for you.

Final Embrace :

[Photo by Associated Press]: "Chingiz Iskenderov, right, weeps over 
coffin holding the remains of his brother as other relatives grieve 
at an Azarbaijani cemetery yesterday amid burial of victims killed 
in fighting in Nagorno-Karabagh."
The Washington Post, 3/6/92

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: 'Verbitsky The X-Soviet Jew' Searches For Nazi Armenians.
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:19:52 GMT





verbit@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)

>	What a gutless attitude! Some jerks should be killed
>	at any rate. For instance, mutlu. Or Russian
>	Emperor with his family. If ASALA/ARF/ASAP
>	indeed exist (I doubt) they deserve our respect.


But where is your brain? Numerous articles in major newspapers (London 
Times) and periodicals (Newsweek) during the war, had suggested the 
existence of a significant collaboration between Armenians and the Nazis. 
Arthur Derounian deserves credit for being the first person to deal with 
this issue extensively. Derounian's motives were twofold: his deeply held
democratic convictions gave him a sense of duty and he felt obliged
to shed light on this yet another dark chapter of Armenian history.
Concurrently, Derounian embarked on what one would call 'crisis
control' or face-saving. In order to forestall any potential attacks
on the larger Armenian community in the United States, he marginalized
collaboration as deplorable but insignificant.[1]

[1] John Roy Carlson (real name Arthur Derounian), 'The Plotters,'
    E. P. Dutton & Company, Inc., New York 1946, p. 182.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Armenian Government Got Away With the Genocide Of The Turkish People.
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:32:04 GMT





<16pf7sINNrav@agate.berkeley.edu>
mikie@ocf.berkeley.edu (Michael C. Wu)

>Mutlu, I have a few questions:
>    1.  Where do you live (Which city)
>    2.  How do you look like
>    3.  Is it Hassan or Hasan?

Such quaintly charming habits of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF jungles. The small 
creature is alive and looks for adventure. If you feel that you can 
simply act as an Armenian governmental crony in this forum you will be 
sadly mistaken and duly embarrassed. This is not a lecture to another 
Nazi Armenian, but a fact.

I will dissect article-by-article, paragraph-by-paragraph, line-by-line, 
lie-by-lie, revision-by-revision, written by those on this net, who plan 
to 'prove' that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds is 
nothing less than a classic un-redressed genocide. We are neither in 
x-Soviet Union, nor in some similar ultra-nationalist fascist dictatorship, 
that employs the dictates of Hitler to quell domestic unrest. Also, feel 
free to distribute all responses to your nearest ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists,
the Armenian pseudo-scholars, or to those affiliated with the Armenian
criminal organizations.

Armenian government got away with the genocide of 2.5 million Turkish men,
women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide. You, and 
those like you, will not get away with the genocide's cover-up.

"Within a few months after the war began, these Armenian guerrilla
 forces, operating in close coordination with the Russians, were
 savagely attacking Turkish cities, towns and villages in the east,
 massacring their inhabitants without mercy, while at the same time
 working to sabotage the Ottoman army's war effort by destroying roads
 and bridges, raiding caravans, and doing whatever else they could to
 ease Russian occupation. The atrocities committed by the Armenian 
 volunteer forces accompanying the Russian army were so severe that the 
 Russian commanders themselves were compelled to withdraw them from the 
 fighting fronts and sent them to rear guard duties. The memoirs of many
 Russian officers who served in the east at this time are filled with 
 accounts of the revolting atrocities committed by these Armenian 
 guerrillas, which were savage even by relatively primitive standards of
 war then observed in such areas.[1]"

[1] "Journal de Guerre du Deuxieme d'Artillerie de Forteresse Russe 
     d'Erzeroum," 1919, p. 28.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Subject: Face lifting process (Goodby MUTLU, hello Argic)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:28:00 GMT

sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

>This joke will open the skies to mankind.

 Totally agree. The stupidity of Turks has to continue for ever.
 First it was MUTLU (Master Untrue Totally Lying Units). (Before MUTLU,
 it was Mr. Palmer.)  Now, the face is geting old, so here Mr. Argic
 popes up.  Same texts, same material, same stupidity.

 And above all, same Turks, same future ...

 

>Serdar Argic

>                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
>                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
>                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
>                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
>                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

 What? MUTLU's stuff is obsolete? Kill Kurds etc...
 

-- 
---> Panos Tamamidis
     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Soccer News
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:58:39 GMT
Reply-To: armagan@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems

2.Hafta:(8/30)

Ankaragucu        4        Aydinspor       0
Karsiyaka         3        Genclerbirligi  0
Kayserispor       2        Besiktas        3
Bakirkoyspor      3        Kocaelispor     4
Gaziantepspor     2        Fenerbahce      3
Sariyer           1        Bursaspor       3
Konyaspor         0        Trabzonspor     0
Galatasaray       1        Altay           2


Puan durumu:

                0  G  B  M   A    Y    P
-------------------------------------------
Kocaelispor     2  2  -  -   11   5    6
Bursaspor       2  2  -  -    7   1    6
Fenerbahce      2  2  -  -    7   2    6
Altay           2  2  -  -    3   1    6
Trabzonspor     2  1  1  -    4   -    4
Karsiyaka       2  1  1  -    4   1    4
Besiktas        2  1  1  -    4   3    4
Ankaragucu      2  1  -  1    4   1    3
Galatasaray     2  1  -  1    4   2    3
Aydinspor       2  1  -  1    2   5    3
Konyaspor       2  -  1  1    1   2    1
Bakirkoyspor    2  -  -  2    3   8    -
Gaziantepspor   2  -  -  2    2   7    -
Sariyer         2  -  -  2    1   7    -
Genclerbirligi  2  -  -  2    -   6    -
Kayserispor     2  -  -  2    4  11    -


3.Hafta:(9/6)

Aydinspor-Altay
Trabzonspor-Ankaragucu
Bursaspor-Konyaspor
Fenerbahce-Sariyer
Kocaelispor-Gaziantepspor
Besiktas-Bakirkoyspor
Genclerbirligi-Kayserispor
Karsiyaka-Galatasaray

----------------------------------------------------------------
 ARMAGAN A. OZDINC
 Paramax Systems, Valley Forge Labs, Research and Development
________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Subject: Re: Mr. Mutlu, what is your point?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:22:00 GMT

sadi@physics1 (Sadi Turgut) writes:

>In article <BtCKBq.ty@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>>
>>  When was the last time you visited your mental therapist?

> Isn't it really interesting that *you* are asking me such a
>question? Now, Compare what I wrote to what you wrote before,
>and see if you should ask the same question to yourself.

 I read again what you wrote.  Thus, my apologies. Mutlu and I are the
 same person !!

 You are the most clever human on earth. Nobady could have discovered this !!
 It was the most briliant idea.  Actually, my real name is Hasan Mutlotamam.

 Have some fun !!

> Sa`di


-- 
---> Panos Tamamidis
     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human
Subject: Given the dismal record of brutal Greek oppression of Turks...
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:03:11 GMT





<BtvrDp.1I7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )

>  Affraid to re-post my previous comment? The Argo-malak propaganda isn't
>  that good.

With that behind you, choose a strategy. Present Greek 
government is trying to tyrannize the Turkish population 
in western Thrace by forbidding it its ethnic and religious 
rights, which were established through international treaties. 
And the problems in Cyprus have their origin in decades of 
oppression of the Turkish population by the Greek Cypriot 
officials and their violation of the co-founder status of 
the Turks set out in the constitution. The coup d'etat 
engineered by Greece in 1974 to execute a final solution 
to the Turkish problem was the savage blow that invoked 
Turkiye's intervention. Turkiye intervened reluctantly and 
only as a last resort after exhausting all other avenues 
consulting with Britain and Greece as the other two signatories 
to the treaty to protect the integrity of Cyprus. There simply 
was not any expansionist motivation in the Turkish action at 
all. This is in dramatic contrast to the Greek motivation which 
was openly expansionist, stated as 'Enosis,' union with Greece. 
Since the creation of independent Cyprus in 1960, the Turkish 
population, although smaller, legally had status as the co-founder
of the republic with the Greek population.

The Greek Cypriots, with the support of 'Enosis'-minded
Greeks in the mainland, have consistently ignored that
status and portrayed the Island as a Greek island with
a minority population of Turks. The Turks of Cyprus are
not a minority in a Greek Republic and they found the
only way they could show that was to assert their 
autonomy in a separate republic.

Turkiye is not satisfied with the status quo. She would
rather not be involved with the island. But, given the
dismal record of brutal Greek oppression of the Turkish
population in Cyprus, she simply cannot leave the fate
of the island's Turks in the hands of the Greeks until
the Turkish side is satisfied with whatever accord
the two communities finally reach to guarantee that
history will not repeat itself to rob Turkish Cypriots
of their rights, liberties and their very lives.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
From: jhess@orion.oac.uci.edu (James Hess)
Subject: Turkish student seeks guest housing while travelling...
Expires: September 16, 1992
Summary: Boston, Washington DC.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:18:13 GMT
Distribution: us


I am trying to help my friend, a Turkish student who is on her way home after
a couple of years in the US, find guest housing for a couple of nights each in 
Boston and Washington DC this month.  She is an PhD student in architecture, 
and is planning to visit theses places to take pictures she can use in teaching
students back in Istanbul.  

She will be arriving in Boston by the afternoon of Saturday, September 19.  
She would like a place to stay Saturday and Sunday night.  She will leave on 
Monday.

She will arrive in Washington DC early Wednesday morning and seeks a place to 
stay on Wednesday the 23rd and Thursday the 24th.  She will leave on Friday 
morning by Amtrak for New York and fly to Istanbul.


Please email me if you can help or know somebody who might.  We will be 
traveling this week, so I may not get back to you before the 7th, but please 
contact me as soon as possible.

Thank you,

-Jim Hess-
  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: nbaloian@toutou.dcc.uchile.cl (Nelson Baloian)
Subject: Re: Face lifting process (Goodby MUTLU, hello Argic)
Originator: nbaloian@toutou
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 14:09:59 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion

In article <Btvqyq.1Ep@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>
>>This joke will open the skies to mankind.
>
> Totally agree. The stupidity of Turks has to continue for ever.
> First it was MUTLU (Master Untrue Totally Lying Units). (Before MUTLU,
> it was Mr. Palmer.)  Now, the face is geting old, so here Mr. Argic
> popes up.  Same texts, same material, same stupidity.
>
> And above all, same Turks, same future ...
>
> 
>
>>Serdar Argic
>
>>                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
>>                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
>>                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
>>                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
>>                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
>
********** "Turks are like that" ***************************************
**********   (by Mutlu & co.)    *************************************

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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.rights.human
Subject: The Armenian genocide of the Azeri people.
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:30:23 GMT






<1992Sep1.175257.15969@morrow.stanford.edu>
berne@nova3.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne)

>a lot of nauxious David-Irvingous/Faurissonesque crap.

Pardon me.

The article below is taken from The Sunday Times, 1 March  1992, a
British Weekly, written by Thomas Goltz, from Agdam, Azerbaijan.

    ARMENIAN SOLDIERS MASSACRE HUNDREDS OF FLEEING FAMILIES.

    The spiralling  violence gripping the  outer republics of  the former
Soviet Union gained new impetus  yesterday with cold-blooded slaughter of
hundreds of women and children in war-racked Nagorno-Karabakh.
    Survivors  reported that  Armenian soldiers  shot and  bayoneted more
than 450  Azeris, many of  them women and  children, who were  fleeing an
attack  on their  town. Hundreds,  possibly thousands,  were missing  and
feared dead.
    The attackers  killed most of  the soldiers and  volunteers defending
the women  and children.  They then  turned their  guns on  the terrified
refugees. The few  survivors later described what  happened:" That's when
the real  slaughter began," said  Azer Hajiev,  one of three  soldiers to
survive. " The  Armenians just shot and  shot. And then they  came in and
started carving up people with their bayonets and knives."
    " They were shooting, shooting, shooting", echoed Rasia Aslanova, who
arrived in Agdam with other women and children who made their way through
Armenian lines. She said her husband, Kayun, and a son-in-law were killed
in front of her. Her daughter was still missing.
    One boy who arrived in Agdam had an ear sliced off .

    The survivors  said 2000  others, some of  whom had  fled separately,
were still missing in the gruelling terrain; many could perish from their
wounds or the cold.
    By late  yesterday, 479 deaths had  been registered at the  morgue in
Agdam's morgue,  and 29 bodies  had been buried  in the cemetery.  Of the
seven corpses  I saw awaiting  burial, two  were children and  three were
women, one shot through the chest at point blank range.
    Agdam hospital was  a scene of carnage and terror.  Doctors said they
had 140 patients who escaped slaughter, most with bullet injuries or deep
stab wounds.
    Nor were they safe in Agdam. On friday night rockets fell on the city
which  has a  population  of 150,000,  destroying  several buildings  and
killing one person.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Their Muslim And Jewish Minorities Were Systematically Massacred.
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:25:55 GMT





<visser.714946087@convex.convex.com>
visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)

>	Millions of turks are suffering and you the "sometimes-Cosar" Multu
>sits in the west a deserter of the Turkish homeland talking of batteries.

And all you have to do is polish it. As well as you can. Whenever you
feel like it.

Source: Professor Stanford J. Shaw, 'The Jews of the Ottoman Empire and the
        Turkish Republic,' New York University Press, New York (1991).

  page 188:

  <<...As the peoples of Southeastern Europe achieved their independence,
   their Muslim and Jewish minorities were systematically persecuted and
   massacred, and those who survived were driven beyond the ever-shrinking
   boundaries of the retreating Ottoman Empire in a kind of slaughter which
   had not been seen since the dispersal of the Jews from Palestine centuries
   earlier.

   This sort of genocide had begun as long before as the late sixteenth
   century, with the Rumanian Principalities taking the lead, as united
   Rumania did subsequently during the later years of the nineteenth
   century. In 1579 the ruler of Moldovia, Peter the Lame, banished its
   Jews because of their competition with its Christian merchants. When
   Prince Micheal the Brave revolted against the Ottomans in the Rumanian
   principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia in 1593, he ordered the massacre
   of all the Jews as well as Turks in Bucharest.>>

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


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