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From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Alternative radio stations
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:53:24 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

I'll jump into the fray... 
Someone asked (I paraphrase): what does an alt. station *get* for playing
popular/collge-top-40 stuff? This was to argue that they got no benefits
and therefore it made no sense to do so.

I think stations have agreements with producers: the producer gives them 
*free* promo stuff and the station *promotes* it. Without the stuff, the
station has to buy a lot more stuff. Furthermore, advertisers pay money
to stations with large listenerships. Give-aways raise the number of one's 
listenship. The free promo stuff is also used for this purpose.

I have several problems with my local college radio (WBNY in Buffalo).
The first is that I can't stand to hear a song too many times in too
short a time, and the fact that BNY has high-frequency play lists guarantees
that I will.

The second is that occassionally the *really* young djs don't know
their way around "alt." music. A funny example: a few months ago when
Eno and Cale released their recent work together, the dj misread the
cover and said "here's a new one from a couple of guys End and
Cale"...                                               ^^^

besides the obvious misreading, calling them "a couple of guys"?  that
sounds like a new garage band. How long has Eno been around?!?  Cale??
You've never heard of either of them!?!  Get off an alternative
station! I mean, how many songs do you know?!? 

On the other hand, you don't want TOO heavy-handed a program director -
unless she's GOOD!

enough rambling...

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
 No  no  no don't stop, I mean, I must be dreaming,  I'll just hold you
 I'm just about to drop, you thrill me with your screaming, I adore you
                                                  - The Wedding Present
From: mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Primus? Cracker? Mudhoney?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:22:24 GMT
Organization: UB


	I realize that these groups are totally unrelated, but I was
wondering if any one, or all of them are recommended listening.  I
listen to quite a variety of music (Pixies, Soundgarden, Afghan Whigs,
Jane's, NIN to the Beatles, Ry Cooder, Leon Redbone, Dylan and almost
everything in between) and have heard the "popular" stuff by all three of
the listed groups.  I am definitely one to take chances, but for some 
reason these three have scared me.  All I need to hear are a few praises 
or a few negatives to lean me either way.  My mail account is : 
IN%"V050PF8E@UBVMS".  Or just post.
						JiM  
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: chm8v@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Chris "Dread" Mann)
Subject: Re: New Cure Album
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 18:41:56 GMT

pmstuffl@eos.ncsu.edu  writes:
> Does anyone know when the new Cure album is coming out ?
> My suite mate is their biggest fan, he wants to know.
> 
> Please post a date.
> 
> 			Pete
According to the College Music Journal, or maybe I saw it somewhere else,
it will be released on April 17; but this is probably only for radio
stations.  I think the release date for record stores is April 20, but i 
think this is only for the U.K.  This means that is will probably
come out here in the states on the 21st.

chris
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cs318a36@ibmb3.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Molas)
Subject: RAVE INFO??????
Summary: Looking for good rave compilation
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:33:09 GMT

I'm not sure exactly how to classify __rave__, but I have heard a lot of it
at some of the high-fashion high-attitude bump-and-grind clubs in Chicago,
such as Shelter.  I thought for a while rave was kinda' like house music
on acid with a taint of industrial (but still seperate it from Acid House),
which, on the whole, was very sexually oriented in its riffs.        

I thought that Lords of Acid were _somewhat_ what I was looking for....

James Brown is dead, by LA Style might be an example.  


I have seen a thirty dollar compilation at Wax Trax in Chicago, but didnt 
know if it was worth shelling out for.....


PLEASE!  If anyone can help me with some Rave band names...... thanx!

BTW!  Has anyone been to a "wandering warehouse" Rave party were the 
sensual drug XTC is said to be taken in large amounts?

			just curious,
						Fortunato
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From: md8d@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Mrigank Das (Licensed to Rock))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indigo Girls to be on Late Night tonight
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:52:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Apr17.185214.26024
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department

Yes, it was a repeat show, so unless they air a sequence of repeats
no indigo girls tonite....


Mrigank
From: cwvst+@pitt.edu (Charles W Van Keuren)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Why, Lord, why?
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:55:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <cdttMWO00UhWM3sNx9@andrew.cmu.edu> bm2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brendan P. McFeely) writes:
>_Why_ are there assholes out there who will slam to They Might Be
>Giants?  Why?  Does "Ana Ng" _really_ make you feel that energetic? 
>Don't tell me "Birdhouse in your Soul" really makes you want to float.  
>
>Gimme a fucking break.
>
>bpm
>============================================
>Brendan P. McFeely / (bm2e@andrew.cmu.edu) /
>Creative Writing, Carnegie Mellon University
>"Be regular and orderly in your life, that 
>you may be violent and original in your work." 

Yeah, I was at that free show too.  Man I was amazed at all the people trying
to get in.  (For non-Pittsburgh residents, They Might Be Giants just did a 
free show at CMU.)  

I thought that the divers were kinda silly too.  But like Ian MacIye said, 
there's sick people who would "fuckin' stage dive if they went to see Cats
in New York."

Has anyone seen TMBG live?  I like the show--they were energetic and fun.  But
I was a little disappointed with the fact that a lot of the songs were backed
up with a tape recording.  I figured with all that Elektra money behind them,
they'd have a small, over-shadowed back-up band.  But all bitching aside, the
show was fun.  Even  with people stage diving to "Your Racist Friend".

-chuck Van Keuren
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jeho@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (john.e.holmgren)
Subject: Farrell's new band
Keywords: Porno for Pyros
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:14:13 GMT


  A friend just told me that Perry Farrell (formerly of Jane's Addiction)
recently played at and AIDS benefit show with his new band called
Porno for Pyros. I heard that drummer Steve Perkins is in the band
but I don't know anything else about. Anybody out there here anything
about this band?

Thanks, 
ERic
From: lkvarda@mips.com (Lisa Kvarda)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Weird Al does Nirvana
Date: 10 Apr 1992 23:47:12 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: alice.mips.com
Keywords: chuckle


Anyone heard Weird Al's version of Smells Like Teen Spirit?
I came across it flipping through the stations on my way home 
from work (103.3 in the bay area -- I think it's a college
station).  At first I thought it was Nirvana, but then I
caught some of the lyrics:


So I'm yelling
And we're singing
But I don't know
What we're saying...


We're a garage band
From Seattle
But it's better
Than raising cattle..


We don't sound
Like Madonna
(something something)
We're Nirvana...


Definately worth a listen.

Lisa
From: a0s5102@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Mitchell R Dickerman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Jody Grind (was:Re: Bands and labels you may have never heard of...)
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:34:13 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

I first saw the Jody Grind when they opened for Robyn Hitchcock during his
solo _Eye_ tour. I was VERY impressed, they were alot of fun and the lead
singer, Kelly Hogan Murray, has a phenomenal voice. They have at least
one album out, called _One Man's Trash Is Another Man's Treasure_, which is
excellent. They cover "Peter Gunn", "Mood Indigo", "It Ain't Necessarily So"
as well as a number of originals. According to the Upcoming Releases list
that gets posted, they should have released a new album on 3/31. Also,
my CD International guide says they have an album out on a German label
called _Far Canal_, but I'm not sure this is correct. When looking for their
material, check under both J and G, as most stores don't know that "Jody Grind"
isn't the name of a person.

Mitch
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: igj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Glen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Jesus Lizard Advice?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:05:10 GMT





Dont forget David Yow's previous group - Scratch Acid!
They are great!
They even did a cover of a song from Jesus Christ Superstar.





-I-
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ksantosu@laplace.waterloo.edu (Bullwinkle J. Moose)
Subject: Re: WANTED: OPINIONS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:08:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.153019.14006@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> lputnam@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lee P Putnam) writes:
>
>Or does anyone have opinions on the following shows currently touring:
>
>	-Sugarcubes

Good, go see it if you can.

Cheers

Kevin

"I'm not being unfair...okay, I am, but who cares?" -- The Wedding Present

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cs421coll@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (NEUMANN)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Residents
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:31:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Arizona State University - Computer Science Dept
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>Can anyoune make any reccomendations of a good CD by  the Residents to buy?
>I remember hearing one of their records in a bar, and I liked it quite a
>bit.

IMHO, The Commercial Album and Duck Stab are well worth getting on disk.  I
have most of the rest of their stuff, and nothing else quite gells like
these two.  These albums are mostly original, except for "It's a Man's,
Man's, Man's, Man's (too many?)  World" and some throw away Elvis covers on
The Commercial Album.  These cover tunes are not on the tape so make sure
to get the disk (The James Brown cover will haunt me until I die, and then
some).  Third Reich and Roll is okay and some of their early recordings are
strange, but you should try to listen to their stuff before you buy
anything.

Ken Collins

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From: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu (Charlie's enormous mouth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 'new music' suggestions compilation list
Date: 14 Apr 1992 22:21:00 UTC
Reply-To: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu
Organization: University of the Pacific, Stockton, CA

tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com (tim clinkenpeel) whines:

>laurie anderson
>  {not very exciting}

WHAT?  Oh, no, no, no...

Laurie Anderson has been making some of the greatest avant-garde music of this
century.  Her music is somewhat minimalistic, so I suppose that might not
appeal if you are looking exclusively for ass-kicking stuff like Jane's
Addiction and Smashing Pumpkins; but her music is some of the most insightful,
original, and intelligent stuff I've ever heard.  

I suggest you give her another try... give a listen to either the album _Mister
Heartbreak_ (on which is featured, among others, Adrian Belew and William
Burroughs), or _Big Science_. Especially the song "From the Air," which is a
trippy piece with combinations of saxophones and analog sax sounds that create
a very strange texture, combined with her bizarre way of talking/chanting over
the music.  Incredible. 

>peter murphy
>  {mediocrity at its finest}

Now, THIS I agree with.  How anybody could be a part of Bauhaus and then be
satisfied with putting out his new, sanitized, pseudo-alternative boringness is
beyond me...


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Michael Thorn / mthorn@madvax.uop.edu 
"When humans were young, they were pushed around in strollers.  When they were
old, they were pushed around in wheelchairs.  In between, they were just pushed
around." -- Tom Robbins
From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Rainmakers
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:55:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Does anyone know what happened to the Rainmakers?  The last I heard
from them was their "Tornado" album, but that was around 1987 or 8.

We used to go see them when they were "Steve, Bob and Rich" in Kansas
City

Jeff        wayman@lamar.colostate.edu
From: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu (Charlie's enormous mouth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nettwerk and KMFDM
Date: 17 Apr 1992 01:15:56 UTC
Reply-To: mthorn@madvax.uop.edu
Organization: University of the Pacific, Stockton, CA

hoffman@n1.math.umn.edu (John R. Hoffman) asks:

>
>I know of the following bands on the Nettwerk Label, are there
>any others?
>
>Skinny Puppy
>Consolidated
>MC 900 ft Jesus
>Severed Heads.

the following bands have material on the Nettwerk label.  (Flame deterrent:
notice I did not say they were EXCLUSIVELY on Nettwerk.)

The Grapes of Wrath
Front 242
Single Gun Theory
Tackhead
Chris & Cosey
SPK
The Tear Garden
Moev
C.T.I.
Manufacture
Sarah McLachlan
Pay It All Back (sampler)
Bel Canto
The Water Walk
Keith LeBlanc
SSR (New Beat compilation)
Lava Hay
Hilt
consolidated
Falling Joys
Itch
The Sound
Dole
Bill Pritchard
After All
The Aquanettas
Mr. Big Mouse
Boxcar
Guesome Twosome
Ups & Downs

There may be a couple I missed.  This is taken from the most recent edition
of the Nettwerk catalog I have.  For more info on Nettwerk write to: #330 -
1755 Robson Street, Vancouver BC, Canada V6G 3B7.


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Michael Thorn / mthorn@madvax.uop.edu 
"When humans were young, they were pushed around in strollers.  When they were
old, they were pushed around in wheelchairs.  In between, they were just pushed
around." -- Tom Robbins
From: blondie@wpi.WPI.EDU (The Blonde One)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: fugazi concert
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:47:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: wpi.1992Apr9.174744.29895
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute



		Fugazi will be playing Saturday, March 11th at
		E.M.Loew's Theatre in Worcester,MA for an all
		ages show from 2pm-6pm......there will be two
		opening bands, i don't know who, but tickets 
		are only $5.00 and you can get them at any
		Strawberries oultlet or I think through Ticket
		master, or at the door if it's not sold out by
		then......they are also at Bennington College
		in Bennington,VT on Friday night and they are
		playing somewhere in Connecticut on Sunday or
		Monday......

					-blondie
From: John.D.Wolfe@dartmouth.edu (John D. Wolfe)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Stone Roses
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:18:26 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In reference to what happened to the Stone Roses, I was talking to a
promotions rep from RCA who said that the Roses are currently living
off their advance monies and are not doing squat.  He also mentioned
that DGC had received some demos from them that were promptly rejected.
I guess I can wait another year...  In the meantime, enjoy the new
Charlatans UK disc--very nice...

john.wolfe@dartmouth.edu
From: tomster@wpi.WPI.EDU (God is Calling ....)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: *Alternative* Music?
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:53:44 GMT
	<lkQeWe0@uop.uop.edu> <64998@apple.Apple.COM>
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280


   In article <lkQeWe0@uop.uop.edu> mthorn@madvax.uop.edu writes:

   ... [much follow-the-thread stuff deleted] ...
   HOWEVER, that's not the way the format is being used.  Instead, it was
   primarily an excuse for the record companies to charge twice as much
   for an LP (which they'd been looking for a way to do for a long time),
   while keeping the content the same, or even reducing it.  The unit cost
   of CDs is now lower than the unit cost of LPs, for a run of almost any
   size.  Further, the double album appears to be dead, what with the Guns
   n Roses "choice means spending twice as much" USE YOUR ILLUSION I & II
   and the forthcoming Springsteen identical exercise in greed.  Remember
   getting three LPs in SANDINISTA for $10?  Sigh.
   -- 
   -- Christophe

   "I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when
    I generalize, I don't care." -- Dave Barry

I remember reading once that manufacturing a C.D. cost $1.25 per.  This was
quite some time ago, and I'm sure that the cost has gone down at least a
few cents since.  Still, kinda makes ya wonder where the other $13 - $14
goes ... ?
Spiel on demise of 2-cd sets agreed; however, last time I checked, to get
a double-cd set you had to fork out $27 anyways, just $3 less than buying
two seperate cd's...  (though, I DID just buy a floyd 2-cd set for just $20...)
Lotsa money wasted on lobbying for the long box, perhaps?
The cost is definitely not in proportion to the quality of music, for the best
cd's I have I paid the least.
[my $.02 -- and when WILL they put the damn 'cents' sign on keyboards...]

		---- tomster@wpi.wpi.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Butler)
Subject: Re: Best Pogues? Most Erotic Alternative Music?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:38:46 GMT

>But I personally don't see why David Butler needs an alternative to
>the blues.  The music of Howling Wolf, Little Walter, John Lee
>Hooker et al. is as much rock 'n' roll as the Pogues, New Model Army,
>the Violent Femmes, et al.  Great is great; rocking is rocking.
>Doesn't matter when it was made or how it is classified, seems to me.

It is not that I'm looking to REPLACE blues. IMHO blues is the most incredible 
erotic music ever written. However, I DO enjoy progressive and most of what I 
have (Pogues, REM, Runrig, Curve etc...) is not exactly what I would call 
erotic. I recently met an ahh... new person and she prefers alternative music, 
so I'm looking for something to satisfy both of us... errr.....yea...:-)

Anyway, my favorite Blues so far is Lightnin' Hopkins. Anyone have any other
suggestions other than the OBVIOUS like Howlin Wolf and Muddy Waters?
---------------------------------------------------------------------->
-David Butler (the mad typoist)- dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

  "I think I need a new vice. Maybe I'll take up sleeping." - me

          - Crawl to you
            Crawl to me
            Writhing in ecstasy
            Into the rhythm
            Into the sea
            Reptile man -         Willie Phoenix
From: jimd@spider.co.uk (Jim Darroch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Song info request
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:28:09 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.


Hi,

I wonder if anyone out there can give me some info on the origins of
this song...

It's called "In Heaven", and I would like to know who originally wrote/
recorded it, when it was released, etc.  I don't know anything about
the song, apart from it has been recorded by Bauhaus and The Pixies 
(see below) and contains the following lines:

	In heaven, everything is fine
	You've got your good thing, and I've got mine.

This request comes about because, over this weekend, I heard a bootleg
Pixies CD called "Timeless Stars".  One of the tracks was "In heaven",
and was listed as being an (officially) unreleased studio demo.  Unfortunately,
being a bootleg, the CD had no credits or copyright notice!  On hearing the
track, it sparked off a distant memory, and I was sure I could picture 
Pete Murphy singing it, so I looked out all my Bauhaus albums, with 
no success.  Then I looked out an old live tape from 1983 (recorded on
the "Burning from the Inside" tour) and sure enough - "In Heaven" was
on the track list.  A quick listen confirmed that it was the same song.

So, in a nutshell, where did this song come from?  If it isn't an original
and obscure (to me, anyway) Bauhaus number, it would seem to come from
a common influence for them and the Pixies.

Thanks in advance for any info sent.
-- 
Jim Darroch            *                          * jimd@spider.co.uk (email)
Spider Systems Limited *    "Open To Everyone"    * 031 554 9424      (phone)
Stanwell St, Edinburgh *                          * 031 555 0664        (fax)
From: jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jack B. Huynh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Trash can sintras lyrics
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:58:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sn3koINNg94
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: natd@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Natalie Day)
Subject: Lookin' for a Song
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:00:01 GMT


Has anyone out there ever heard of the song called "Eighty eight lines about
Forty Four Women" by the Nails?  I believe it is pretty old.  The song is
hilarious! I am dying to get a copy of the record and would like to know if
anyone knows where I could do so.  I would appreciate an address, a phone number,
even the lyrics.  Thanks a lot!