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From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Philly Boink Announcement
Organization: my opinions only
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:33:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.150155.3745@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <BvFtDH.DEE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

>>Heh heh heh yourself.  Seth and I will have to drop over and clean
>>your clock.  We'll both take your money, but Seth can have the
>>seesters all to himself.  *smile*

Well, if you _insist_.  A couple of hundred could take me weeks, though.

> Well I'll be there sat. Tickets bought. Max might play and that makes 5.
> 4/5 = poker. Who's bringin chips.

I've got the chips.  You can be the dip.

(I had to get that in first, didn't I?)

> I suggest we start either early or late. For mingeling purposes.
> Shebaleba (assuming her bachelorette pad) never gave the go ahead????????

Well?


Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Marriage
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:00:10 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Distribution: soc.singles
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <BvB9Au.uo@inews.Intel.COM> gbennett@frx781.intel.com (gbennett) writes:
>I would like to pose a hypothetical question to any single willing to
>respond.  Here it is:

>   Would you be willing to give up a career, a new home, and a new car
>   for an everlasting and loving marriage?

Hmm... hmm... the question is a tad vague.  I'm not sure I'd be willing to
be destitute in return for "everlasting and loving marriage" (assuming I
had a choice, that is), but, under less extreme circumstances... yeah, I
think I'd be willing to do it.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"So if you ask me how do I feel inside, I could honestly tell you we've
 been taken on a very long ride."
					- Marillion, "That Time Of The Night"
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Marriage
Date: 29 Sep 1992 12:57:28 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <BvB9Au.uo@inews.Intel.COM> gbennett@frx781.intel.com (gbennett) writes:
>
>I would like to pose a hypothetical question to any single willing to
>respond.  Here it is:
>
>   Would you be willing to give up a career, a new home, and a new car
>   for an everlasting and loving marriage?

Two answers:

(1) It's either both or none.

or

(2) What career?  What home?  What car?  These things are not possible in
    America any longer.

------------------------------------------------------------
Perot will tell all his volunteers to go to Clinton in less than 3 days
with 97% probability.  The Brewers will win the Division with 37% probability.
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:25:12 GMT
	<MARTINC.92Sep19102941@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<ewright.717102379@convex.convex.com>
	<thurlow.717569206@convex.convex.com>
	<MARTINC.92Sep27145910@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<thurlow.7176
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: thurlow@convex.com's message of 28 Sep 92 00:22:08 GMT

In article <thurlow.717639728@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

   In <MARTINC.92Sep27145910@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

   >(Rob: does he really wear a lot of black too?)

   Actually, I think Ed dresses pretty well, and I've overheard some
   quite positive comments about his hats.  (Yes, that's a plural).
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Simultaneously?

--
Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu/(ne crm@cs.duke.edu) 
O/Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
H/3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
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"I am he who walks the States with a barb'd tongue, questioning every
one I meet,/Who are you that wanted only to be told what you knew
before?/ Who are you that wanted only a book to join you in your
nonsense?"  _Leaves of Grass_ xxiii.4.
From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: boys in their thirties who never dated
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:13:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.8x+p6h=.barry
Distribution: na
Organization: QQQCLC

In article <1992Sep29.174620.22343@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <DANIEL.92Sep29104418@algol.clsi.COM> daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay) writes:
>>
>>>> Father Edward shall smote the deamons.
>>                 ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I believe the conjugation is "shall smite".
>
> Smite, Smith, Smyth. 
>In Naperville it's smote ya heretic.
> 
> OK so you smite be right as opposed to Wright. Right?

	So mote it be, hallelujah and amen.

						Kayembee
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:57:51 GMT

In article <9729@kralizec.zeta.org.au> craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Craig Dewick) writes:

	Context deleted

> Even though your ideas come from a woman's point of view, they're worth
> considering.

	You *might* want to think about the PR implications of that 
sentence.

							James Nicoll
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 03:08:23 GMT

In article 27616@netcom.com, barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>[
>	This whole debate seems to me based on a false dichotomy,
>courtesy Edward Wright. People aren't jocks or intellectuals, they're
>_individuals_, and not neatly categorized. And while Ed seems too
>obsessed to see through the game he plays on the net, the rest of us
>shouldn't get sucked in. It's just silly.

Hear,Hear.

This is about the best way anybody could put it. Still, I was entertained 
by Ed Wright. I know it's silly, but I had some good fun logging in every
day and flipping past all the stuff looking for "Men in their thirties..."

The best part was when Jim Dutton started doing those great one-liners.
I howled with laughter, went outside for a Pall Mall to calm down, and
there it was on the screen again (WOWY KAZOWY). I still laugh now. Really.

Well, I hope it's still going on. This is better than TV, where you just
know what's going to happen, Even on PBS.

The biggest thrill was getting Ed to answer one of my articles. I loved
his misquotations and misinterpretations. "Not quite true," he wrote,
and then what he said made perfect sense...if you didn't understand the
original posting in the first place.

It was a great challenge to chase,grab, and squeeze that weasel mind of 
his, especially when he got real paranoid and personal. He didn't answer
my E-mail to him...guess he's scared of real four letter words. Wait, I
still have 77 articles to go...Here I come!

Andy.

PLEASE EXCUSE MY OBVIOUS IGNORANCE.
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Date: 28 Sep 1992 01:43:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <ewillims.717613323@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>	I feel the same way about a lover...
>I have one and he's mine and I don't want to share :-)

Ahhhh.  There's nothing like a woman who takes ownership and carves out a
mark on her territory.

How I wish I could love one just like you.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:28:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.191638.8516@speedy.aero.org> nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel) writes:
>In article <2=+pt-c@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>In article <ewright.717658749@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>>>In <bf#pvxd@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>>>Have you ever been to a ball game? Experienced the sights, sounds, smells,
>>>>flavours, activities? Bit into a dog you could swear has been boiling since
>>>>the Kennedy administration, smothered in mustard and kraut, a tepid drink
>>>>nearby, as the pitcher takes his time, delivers a well timed pitch that the
>>>>batter swings and takes the ball over the fence? The roar of the crowd as the
>>>>ball flies out of the park? The excitement in the air?
>>>Sounds like Dante's description of Hell.
>>
>>Dante liked baseball?
>>:)
>
>Why, yes, of course he did.  Don't you remember the bit in the Inferno where
>he encounters Satan frozen in the massive lake that looks just like the
>infield at Yankee Stadium?  And remember Satan's words in praise of the
>Root of all Evil and his glee at having Babe Ruth in his grips?

Thanks.  I'd always wondered who was behind the designated hitter rule.

-- Herb Huston
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:02:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.051528.8284@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Bathsheba.Grossman@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:

>Here I've been doing it the old-fashioned way, by living and sleeping with
>'em.  It takes just about forever, and by the time you know for sure, you're
>too old to care and he's probably dead.

But think of all the fun you've had in the meantime...

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:40:31 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Sep27233135@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>On the other hand, humans do seem to be *extremely* dependent on vision,
>more so perhaps than any other mammal.  Not as good as birds, but
>certainly we depend on vision more than most or all other primates.

More so than the pro-simians, e.g., lemurs, aye-ayes, pottos, and (my
favorite) galagos, all of which have wet noses.  About as much as tarsiers,
monkeys, and apes, all of which, like us, have dry noses (colds don't count).

>But then we've got Herb's real live numbers to suggest that neither of
>these are major predictors, but that long fingers are.  (!!!)

The numbers seem to indicate (1) looks are important but for the most part
not as important as other factors, (2) people tend to select people who 
look like themselves in some ways, (3) some of the physical traits are
not very obvious.

>Shit, I'm also known for my short thick fingers.

Look for women with short fingers.  You may already have been doing so
without realizing it, though.

-- Herb Huston
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Asking advice
Date: 29 Sep 1992 13:12:40 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <117@cnmhnet.UUCP> keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
>however, it is a generally accepted Psychological Theory, that 
>Public Displays of Affection [PDA] are a symptom of insecurity
>on the part of one or both of the parties involved...

It is generally accepted Psychological Theory that disapproval of PDA arises
out of the envy of those who didn't get their poontang this morning (or the
night before).
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 22:25:21 GMT

In article <ewright.718070403@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <1992Oct2.130636.17283@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>
>>Don't wager too much.  Deer and giraffes are in the same basic phylum.
>
>So is everything that has a spinal cord.

Actually, it's the notochord that's the defining feature; spinal cord is
sufficient to define a good-sized subphylum, though.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: BARBIE DOES IT AGAIN!!!!
From: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 30 Sep 1992 23:45:16 GMT
Reply-To: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Sep30.192453.1951@cbnews.cb.att.com>, eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:

>>     a product called "Teen Talk Barbie" which says 4 phrases.  One of the 
>>     phrases is "Math class is hard".  I can't imagine a product better
>>     designed to program math avoidance into little girls.  We've all heard


Is is just a coincidence that Barbie is a blonde?





Rachel                           "Supergoof!"
                                    -  -
                                    O  O
                                      >
                                     \_/
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Beyond Cinderella
Date: 26 Sep 1992 06:54:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

Might I recommend instead, the book "The Cinderella Complex"?  It's
about getting over the notion that you need a man to come and save you
and take care of you instead of being able to take care of yourself.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:05:10 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <MARTINC.92Sep28210326@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>   Well, that's not quite true.  Charlie and company are forever parroting
>   the standard spiel that says people who exercise are superior, not only
>   physically, but intellectually, spiritually, morally, and in every other
>   way as well.  

>While I complain about needing to lose some weight, not having time to
>lift, being sedentary all summer?  I think not.

I said that you claim people who exercise are superior.  I did not say
you believe that *you* are superior.  You keep telling us over and over
again how awful it is you don't get nearly as much exercise as the DUMB
Book of Diet and Exercise says you should.


>There's plenty of evidence that those who exercise live longer, and
>remain mentally active longer.  Doesn't take many years of life to
>account for 2-3 hours a week of exercise.

Which is irrelevent since the average person gets that much exercise
just by walking the dog, mowing the lawn, shopping at the mall, etc.
The type of exercise you recommend is on top of that, and the law of
diminishing returns takes hold very quickly.
From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Date: 28 Sep 1992 01:39:21 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>Emma (still holding her position!)

ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes:
>But Emma, holding your position is so ... lifeless.  It's >so< much better
>if you move with the rhythm.

In <72787@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>Oh, but the tension you can build up if you try to stay still...

In article <ewillims.717612491@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>	Yeah, and think of how wonderful it is to release that
>tension! (*GRIN*)

I can only imagine.  After keeping your back arched so much so long, it must
feel like a joy to release from the tension of that position of bending over
backwards.

It takes a real flexible spine to hold that position. :)

------------------------------------------------------------

"... pleasure completed, her back arched as she screamed in final triumph.  Yet
the relentless milking continued, all the while overwhelming the man struggling
to free himself from the binds of this tortuously ecstatic confinement."
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Book Rec.: _Bodies: Overcoming the Tyranny of Perfection_
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:06:08 GMT

In <1992Oct3.222103.7200@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>In article <ewillims.718044145@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>>In <1992Sep30.174714.2900@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>
>>>Cooking is a lot of fun, though--it's just another venue where one can
>>>explore the range and variety of sensual experience. 
>>
>>	I guess you've seen Nine and a half weeks too, hmm..? (*GRIN*)

>Funny you should mention that.  BTW, are you free for dinner? 

	Only if it's on you!:)


>>>>The gallon of chocolate pudding?  Bathe in it!:)  and then......:)
>>
>>>Fingerpaint?  (Hmmm...now I just have to locate a volunteer for a
>>>canvas....) 
>>
>>	Well, I had been thinking more along the lines of how to
>>clean all that warm melted chocolate off again.......:)

>Well, the most important part is that you have to be very thorough--
>wouldn't want to leave any bits of chocolate left uncleaned-off.

	Absolutely not!  Otherwise you wouldn't be able to appreciate
the passion fruit yoghurt properly!:>
 

>>>Most people wouldn't call that perfect--indeed, most women I meet are
>>>quite determined to start having children before too much longer, 
>>>which makes me, someone who seems to be entirely bereft of whatever
>>>strange psychological mechanism that allows people to put up with
>>>their children, much less desirable as a long-term possibility. 
>>
>>Nonono! You are definitely perfect!  Join the club!:)

>So, what are the benefits of this club?  

	You're a lot richer!!  And you don't have to lie awake at night
wondering when they'll be home! (*GRIN*)
And you don't have to worry about changing nappies....yuch!
 

>Trygve   (And how does one pay dues?) 

	Rigorous application procedures!  (*Laughter*)
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Nice guys getting flamed (was Re:Relationship gone to pot?)
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:59:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct5.162036.7962@ac.dal.ca> brentaa@ac.dal.ca (brent, eh?) writes:
>>>> In article <1992Oct2.160621.7921@ac.dal.ca> brentaa@ac.dal.ca (brent, eh?) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>P.S.    If you do dump him, I'm available, and I love to talk...... ;-)
>>>>  
>>>> Get back to the Nice Guys [tm] thread where you belong.
>>>>  
>>>> Greg
>>>
>>>sorry Greg, Nice Guys[tm] are everywhere nowadays, there's nowhere you can
>>>escape us.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
>>>				-brontosaur the Nice Guy?    who knows....
>>>
>>  
>>  Nice Guys[tm] always tickle themselves pink. It is good they enjoy
>> their own company.
>> 
>Of course we enjoy our own company, think we'd want to hang around with
>any other losers...:-)  (of course, being a Nice Guy[tm], I mean that in
>a totaly non-judgemental or prejudicial sort of way)
>
>besides, the girls love Nice Guys[tm],I wouldn't want to be anything else
>(I've tried, I know)
>
>So what are you???  hmmmm?
>				-Brontosaur the reformed Slimebag
>
 
 Well you haven't been around long, have you? Everybody around these parts
refers to me as Mr. S_E_N_S_I_T_I_V_E. Always there to lend a guiding
or soothing hand(whatever the job requires).
 
 Some see me as a rebel. Others as a hero. Tis it nobeler to live as the
common folk. Is the way of Mother Theresa the way for all mankind ack
the HUMANITY.
 
 Is it wrong for a man to prance about as a naked gladiator?
 
P.S. Your response touched me deeply.

 
================================================================================
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 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sdavey@triton.unm.edu (Sean Davey)
Subject: question on "true" love
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 23:49:36 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

  the quick version of this question is does anyone out there believe in
true love?
  the longer version is:  I got dumped 2 months ago.  For me it was a complete
shock, I thought she was "the one" and was starting to think about marriage.  I
felt like she was the most wonderful woman in the world, and was very happy.
Looking back on the relationship I realized some things.  I loved her more
than she loved me (I know, it's inevitable the one partner loves more than
the other).  My total ecstacy (lasting just over a year) may in fact be due
to large degree to myself.  by that I mean that I in a sense "chose" to feel
that way.  I find, to my utter dismay, that it feels like I will never feel
that way again.  I tell myself that it's up to me whether or not I can love
that much again.  So where does this leave "true" love?  How much of love is
in our own heads?  (btw, sorry if this is a FAQ)  What differentiates people
who are more or less loving than others?

	Sean
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:16:51 GMT
	<MARTINC.92Sep26115753@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<1992Sep26.165359.16509@news.acns.nwu.edu>
	<MARTINC.92Sep26170548@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<BvECs9.Jt1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca's message of 30 Sep 92 15:09:45 GMT

In article <BvECs9.Jt1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:

   In article <MARTINC.92Sep26170548@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
   >
   >
   >Whereas I see Ed as potentially one of those Nice Guys but more like one
   >of those fellows you see around who wear all black clothes, get all
   >hollow-eyed, and go around telling everyone they meet just how morally
   >reprehensible they really are, but then the whole world is shit anyway,
   >and there is no hope of changing things so we might as well all kill
   >ourselves now.  They usually don't bathe enough either.


	   Now just a goldanged minute here: *I* wear black and have a
   realistic worldview, and *I* have a gf. Morbid people (And people
   with limited wardrobes) don't derserve to  tarred with the particular
   brush you're using.

As long as you're optimisitic about it.

	   Not that it matters. In the  long run, everyone is carrion.

And how they carrion about it.
--
Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu/(ne crm@cs.duke.edu) 
O/Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
H/3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
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"I am he who walks the States with a barb'd tongue, questioning every
one I meet,/Who are you that wanted only to be told what you knew
before?/ Who are you that wanted only a book to join you in your
nonsense?"  _Leaves of Grass_ xxiii.4.