HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rypma@waterloo.hp.com (Ted Rypma)
Subject: Re: Voltage/Frequency
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:32:17 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

There are even power supplies out there that need absolutely no changes
for frequency or voltage - just use the right power cable and the power
supply does the rest.

Not likely to be seen on cheaper items like consumer printers, but certain
to be seen on workstations (like HP9000/700's) and HP X terminals.

Ted Rypma
HP Panacom Division
From: moody@e4.ius.cs.cmu.edu (James Moody)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Plotter recommendation, anyone?
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:44:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0p29H.GFJ.2
Reply-To: moody@cs.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Vision and Autonomous Systems Center

I need a plotter that can handle up to D size drawings (22 inches x 34 
inches).  Reliability is of more concern than speed.  Multi-color is not 
important, although I expect it will be difficult to find a high-end 
plotter that does not support color.

Our lab is using both ProEngineer and Tango products, I think these have
drivers to support all standard plotters.

If you have (or know of) a plotter you can recommend please post or send
e-mail.  Thanks alot!

-- 
James E. Moody Jr.	The Robotics Institute		(412) 268-2847
			Carnegie Mellon (University)	      CMU-BUGS
			Schenley Park
moody@cs.cmu.edu	Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards)
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4 expansion questions
Reply-To: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA
Distribution: comp
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:40:31
	<93006.085524FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>

In article <93006.085524FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET> <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET> writes:
>  I have the 4M which comes with an extra 4 MB memory and PS2. In effect it
> actually uses 24MB of "adressing space" whilst only giving 4MB, thus your
> limmited to 14MB without scrapping the 4MB and replacing with an 8MB. The
> reason I say "effectively" is that the mother board has 4 "SIMM" slots, 1 is
> used for the included 4MB, and TWO are used for the PS2 option. Thus you only
> have 1 slot left into which a max 8MB can be added.

That's the missing piece of information: the HP PostScript SIMM module
for the LJ4 takes two of the four available SIMM slots.  I thought I
read the manual fairly well, but this little item escaped my notice.

>  Of course if you want another SIMM-based emulation, you've had it. I think
> HP should have put 2 banks on the board, 1 for memory and 1 for langs,
> particularly as the PS2 requires 2 of them.
>  In the blurb (at least the stuff I've got) they go on about it can have this
> that and the other option, without clarifying that they are partly mutually
> exclusive. I think it's VERY bad that they need 2 slots for PS2.

It's certainly true that consuming half the available slot space
limits expansion options.  However, if a pair of 8 Mbyte SIMMs are
purchased then the total RAM tops out at 18 Mbyte which includes the
built-in 2 Mbyte.  I think that this should be sufficient for most
PostScript jobs, even at 600 dpi.

>  P.S. QUESTION. I understand that L-j 4 SIMMS are compatible with IIISi SIMMS.
> Further, I've heard no mention of a PS2 options for IIISi. Why can't the L-j 4
> PS2 option be used in an L-j IIISi???. That's what I'd like to know.

There are reports that 72 pin SIMMs that include parity memory and are
LJ4 compatible can be had from third party suppliers at considerable
savings over official HP SIMM prices.  Of course, if you don't get
them from an HP dealer, you can't expect HP dealer assistance if
something doesn't work.

 [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
      == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
      == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
      == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
"That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson
From: jraup@coral.bucknell.edu (Raup II James R)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: RFI: Envision Vectorprinter
Date: 8 Jan 1993 12:25:19 -0500
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA, USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: coral.bucknell.edu
Summary: Help!


Greetings netters,, I've recently obtained an old hulk of a printer made
by Envision called a "Vectorprinter" model 430. It is in near-mint condition
but has no manual. I can get it to print text, but I understand this
this thing is capable of plotter emulations. It is multi-color, and has
UP and DOWN arrows (instead of linefeed) on the front panel, which would
(could) support plotter functions.

     Any information about this thing would be helpful, as I understand
Envision no longer exists...

Thanx
Jack

jraup@bucknell.edu


Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: ljwilson@martha.utcc.utk.edu (L. Jack Wilson)
Subject: Magnetically encoding checks using laser printers
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:25:22 GMT

Here at the univerity, we have a VERY expensive laser printer (hanging
from a mainframe) that once every two weeks prints checks on BLANK
pieces of paper, including the magnetically-encoded routing-info (check
number, account number, etc). The people operating it were wondering if
there exists a smaller version to do smaller jobs, such as printing
petty-cash checks several times a day--i.e. a laser printer attached to
a PC that would do the same thing, but with a much smaller volume. For
security reasons, they do not want pre-printed checks hanging around,
plus they want to use the same series of check numbers for both the big
printer and the small one.

I realize an ordinary laser printer (with the proper software) could
physically print the routing-info, but my understanding is the toner
must be magnetically-encoded for banks and clearing-houses to process
it.

Does such a printer in the PC world exist? ANY info would be appreciated.

Thanks.
-- 
Who:    L. Jack Wilson
What:   UTK OAC Microsupport
Where:  ljwilson@utkux1.utk.edu
Why:    Standard Disclaimer fits nicely here.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: decouty@irisa.fr (Bertrand DECOUTY, Atelier)
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4 expansion questions
Reply-To: decouty@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA-INRIA, Campus de Beaulieu, 35042 Rennes Cedex, FRANCE
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:23:23 GMT

In article 085524FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET, <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET> () writes:

...
>
> P.S. QUESTION. I understand that L-j 4 SIMMS are compatible with IIISi SIMMS.
>Further, I've heard no mention of a PS2 options for IIISi. Why can't the L-j 4
>PS2 option be used in an L-j IIISi???. That's what I'd like to know.

The 2 printers use different processors: AMD 29K for IIISi, i960 for LJ4.
So the interpreter need at least to be recompiled.

There should be a Level 2 for a 3Si class printer at HP in the next 6
months, but as there are no such printer actually on the market, HP is
not in a hurry, IMHO. And the 3Si is selling very well!

---
| Bertrand DECOUTY             | EMAIL : Bertrand.Decouty@IRISA.fr                |
| IRISA - INRIA (Atelier)      |         {uunet,mcsun,inria}!irisa!decouty        |
| Campus de Beaulieu           | PHONE : +33  99 84 73 46                         |
| F-35042 Rennes Cedex - FRANCE| FAX   : +33  99 38 38 32 | TELEX: 950473 UNIRISA |

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Williams)
Subject: Anybody know anything about the Tektronix 4695 pen plotter?
Followup-To: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:12:19 GMT

I was recently given an old Tektronix 4695 pen plotter.  It came with 
no documentation at all.  The ink cartridges have dried out.  Can
anybody tell me anything about it?  It is still supported by
Tektronix?  Are the cartridges still available?  Is there a well known
protocol for talking to the thing?

Any clues greatly appreciated...

Jim

-- 
Spoken: James W. Williams			Company: Hughes STX
Internet: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov		Phone: +1 301 286-1131
USPS: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center; Code 633; Greenbelt, MD 20771
Maryland Car Tags: DEV CAR
From: reynes@cix.cict.fr (Jacques Reynes)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: ColorQ System
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:40:02 GMT
Reply-To: reynes@cix.cict.fr (Jacques Reynes)
Distribution: world

I'm interested to know if somebody uses or knows the ColorQ system
sold by ColorAge Inc.
The ColorQ system is composed by:
- ColorDirect that turns copiers into commercial printers (for example 
a CLC 300/500)
- ColorFlow that controls the network
- TIFFoto that print TIFF images
- Freedom of Press

Do you know a comparison between ColorQ system and FIERY ?

Could you tell the advantages or the drawbacks of Freedom of Press ?

Thank you in advance to tell me your experience in the use of those
products.


 Jacques REYNES                       reynes@cict.fr
computer center of the University of Toulouse (FRANCE)
From: Brian.Milner@brunel.ac.uk (Brian D Milner)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: *Two* Parallel Printers from 1 PC - SUMMARY
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:19:32 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK


	
	*****   *Two* Parallel Printers from 1 PC SUMMARY    *****

    I got lots of answers, and they mostly agreed on these points:

=========================================================================
>
>       I am running a laser printer from my PC's parallel port. Now I'd 
>like to add a parallel dot matrix printer as well. 
>
>       Can I *add* a parallel port to my PC? 

Sure, buy one on an expansion card for ~$20, they're reasonably 
easy to install and run.

>       Can I use a serial port to run a parallel printer? 

I believe so, but it's not worth the trouble. Go for the parallel port
on an expansion card.

>       Can I get a switch thing to direct my output from one port 
>       between two printers?

Yes, and they're pretty cheap, too. Automatic ones are more expensive
than manual ones, but your best bet is still the expansion card.

>       Is there any other way I can get this going?

Swop the cables by hand each time you want to change printers. It'll
be pretty boring and it'll wear out the ports; so go for the expansion 
card instead.

=========================================================================
	
	Many thanks to everyone who replied - I will place an order
for an parallel port expansion card forthwith!

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|Brian Milner, The Computer Centre, Brunel University , West London, UK   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|brian.milner@brunel.ac.uk | To shut down Internet; Post to the newsgroups|
+--------------------------+       saying you think 'Lost in Space'       |
			   |       is better than 'Startrek - TOS'        |
			   +----------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: etobkkc@pluto.eto.ericsson.se (Karlsen Bjorn)
Subject: Re: Help!! *Two* parallel printers from 1 PC ??????????????????????????????
Reply-To: etobkkc@hisoy.etn.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AS
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:12:41 GMT


>	I am running a laser printer from my PC's parallel port. Now I'd 
>like to add a parallel dot matrix printer as well. 
>
>	Can I *add* a parallel port to my PC? 

Yes, you can have 3 parallel ports. I have 2 myself. One is LPT1 and the
other is LPT2. Works great. A card with parallel port only is not very
expensive. Buy one, it's the best solution.

>	Can I use a serial port to run a parallel printer? 

You need a special serial to parallel converter box to do this. Don't
know if they are expensive or not.

>	Can I get a switch thing to direct my output from one port 
>	between two printers?

There are boxes that do this. I had one but it didn't work very well; when
I was printing the printer sometimes repeated oooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooone character for a couple of lines (like this). It was pretty
expensive, too.

>	Is there any other way I can get this going?

Maybe, but go for a parallel port card (if you have a spare slot). It's
the easiest way. (IMHO)

>	Only *you* know the answers.

And now you've got mine...   :-)

-KKC-    etobkkc@hisoy.etn.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: gsanchez@cs.umr.edu (Guadalupe Sanchez)
Subject: Re: Canon BJ300 verus HP DJ500
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:16:33 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO

In article <1993Jan7.222042.1043@cognos.com> dbullis@cognos.com (Dave Bullis) writes:
>Any thoughts on the pros and cons of these two printers?
>Output from the from any Deskjet (500, 500C, 550C) I've seen 
>has a halo on tiny dots around the characters.  Hardly 'laser-quality'.
>Previous articles attributed this to the DJ's print head being further from
>the paper than the BJ's.  The BJ300's output looks much crisper.
>
>The specs say the BJ300 is faster in text mode (draft and LQ).
>PC-mag shows the DJ500 about twice as fast in graphics modes, but they used
>different tests for the BJ300 (in 91 Printers Special Issue) and
>the DJ500C/550C (in 92 Printers Special Issue), so its hard to say.
>
>Maybe I should save my pennies for a real laser.
>-- 
>Dave Bullis        Cognos, Inc     VOICE: (613) 738-1440 FAX: (613) 738-0002
>3755 Riverside Dr. P.O. Box 9707    WORK: dbullis@cognos.com
>Ottawa, Ontario,   CANADA  K1G 3Z4  HOME: dave@sillub.ocunix.on.ca
>"I didn't know the terminals were haunted.  The salesman didn't tell us."


I was considering the BJ-300 when I was looking at ink-jet printers.  I
bought a DJ500 because it was the same price, but included the sheet feeder,
which I think is a necessity.  From the samples I have seen, I could find no
difference at all in print quality between the two.  The deskjet is sensitive
to what kind of paper you use, though.  The manual suggests copy paper, but
I get laser quality using 'ink-jet' paper.  If you like using tractor feed
and cheap paper, the BJ-300 might be better.
From: wngai@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Wayne Ngai)
Subject: Printing from Unix machine to printer attached to PC terminal
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:54:03 GMT

	Hi!  I was wondering if there is/are any existing program(s) out
there that would allow for a PC terminal to print a file on the Unix
machine to the local printer that's attached to the PC terminal. e.g.
say I'm hook up to a Unix machine via modem, and I want to print a
file on the Unix machine to my PC printer.  Is there anyway of doing
that without having to download the file to my PC and do some
conversion to printout the file?  i.e. sending the print job to
printer attached to terminal.  If there is such a program, could some
kind soul please tell me where and how can I get a hold of it?

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
--Wayne

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: dave@news.ccutah.edu (dave martin)
Subject: HP DeskJet550C bug?
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 02:40:41 GMT

I do multi-page graphic dumps to a DeskJet550C printer.  Sometimes it
seems to do a skip-perforation when moving to the next page, even though
it has been explicitly disabled (both with dip-switch, and command).

The sequence sent is:

ESC&l0o0LESC>*rbC<ESC>*r-4U<ESC>*t300R<ESC>*o3d2Q<ESC>*r2Q<<ESC>*r0A<ESC>*b2M
a page of graphics data
<ESC>*rbC FORM-FEED then the above sequence
next page of graphics data
and so on until all pages have been printed.

occasionally one of the pages (usually the second, and maybe others)
skips down about a 1/4 of an inch.

Is there a bug in the printer?  is there something wrong with the esc sequences
(I know some of them can be combined, but it should still work as written)

dave@csulx.weber.edu (ignore the header address, its probably wrong)
From: R.J.Collingham@newcastle.ac.uk (R.J.Collingham)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: What is best paper for CANON BJ10 Bubble Jet???
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:52:04 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU

I have a Canon BJ-10 bubble jet printer and was wondering what is the
best kind of A4 white paper to buy. I have tried the paper used by our 
departmental laser printer but that is a little too absorbent and some
of characters look a little smudged. Some non-A4 paper I have at home is
excellent but I have no idea what its thickness/density/weight characteristics
are.

Please could someone recommend some properties of a decent quality paper
that prints well.

Thanks a lot.

Russell

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Russell J. Collingham		
Artificial Intelligence Systems Research Group
Computer Science (SECS)	
University of Durham		email: R.J.Collingham@durham.ac.uk
Stockton Road			phone: 091-374 2637 (2630 secretary)
Durham, England DH1 3LE		  fax: 091-374 3741
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: petsche@puffin.siemens.siemens.com (Thomas Petsche)
Subject: HP Laserjet 4 on Sun network
Organization: /home/learning/petsche/.organization
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:05:30 GMT


We're looking to buy a LJ 4 with ethernet to be used from
a network of Suns.  What kind of driver do we need and where
can I get it?

Thanks!

petsche@learning.siemens.com
--
From: craiga@lifesupport.Eng.Sun.COM (Craig Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: LARGE printouts?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:59:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsytems
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: lifesupport
Keywords: big, huge, masive, etc.

Hello everyone,
   I have a very LARGE postscript document (4 x 20 or 30 feet) to print.  Anyone
have any ideas on what type of printer might be able to handle something this large?
And who might have one that I can rent time on it?

The postscript I am using is very simplistic.  It could easily be converted
to HPGL or maybe something else.  I can also break this document up and print it
in chunks of any size, but I get very tired of pasting all these pages back
together again.  One piece of paper would be *much* easier.

Please respond by E-mail directly to me since I don't normally read this news
group.  If I get any interesting answers I'll repost the results.

Thanks very much for any help,
Craig Anderson

PS.  This is a private request and does not constitute *anything* from Sun Micro.
     I don't usually even speak for myself, let alone anyone else.  :-)


Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: dbullis@cognos.com (Dave Bullis)
Subject: Canon BJ300 verus HP DJ500
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:20:42 GMT

Any thoughts on the pros and cons of these two printers?
Output from the from any Deskjet (500, 500C, 550C) I've seen 
has a halo on tiny dots around the characters.  Hardly 'laser-quality'.
Previous articles attributed this to the DJ's print head being further from
the paper than the BJ's.  The BJ300's output looks much crisper.

The specs say the BJ300 is faster in text mode (draft and LQ).
PC-mag shows the DJ500 about twice as fast in graphics modes, but they used
different tests for the BJ300 (in 91 Printers Special Issue) and
the DJ500C/550C (in 92 Printers Special Issue), so its hard to say.

Maybe I should save my pennies for a real laser.
-- 
Dave Bullis        Cognos, Inc     VOICE: (613) 738-1440 FAX: (613) 738-0002
3755 Riverside Dr. P.O. Box 9707    WORK: dbullis@cognos.com
Ottawa, Ontario,   CANADA  K1G 3Z4  HOME: dave@sillub.ocunix.on.ca
"I didn't know the terminals were haunted.  The salesman didn't tell us."
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:37:14 CST
From: Ed Garay   (u12570@uicvm.uic.edu) <U12570@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: Magnetically encoding checks using laser printers
Distribution: na

There are a couple of companies that make small MICR printers.
I know Xerox makes the new Model 4197 (or is it 4297?) that sells
for about $4K; it's an 8 page per minute, 300dpi, true MICR printer.
I believe it supports Xerox UDK (ala PCL), PCL and PostScript.
Hope this helps. --- Ed Garay

ljwilson@martha.utcc.utk.edu (L. Jack Wilson) says:
>...text deleted...
>I realize an ordinary laser printer (with the proper software) could
>physically print the routing-info, but my understanding is the toner
>must be magnetically-encoded for banks and clearing-houses to process
>it.
>
>Does such a printer in the PC world exist? ANY info would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.printers
From: mp@allegra.att.com (Mark Plotnick)
Subject: LaserJet IIISi and backquote
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:44:44 GMT

People here love the HP IIISi printers, except for the fact that in the
courier font, backquote prints as something that's virtually
indistinguishable from quote.  Does anyone have, say, a snippet of
postscript code that can work around this?  Does the LaserJet IV have
the same glitch?

	Mark Plotnick
	mp@allegra.att.com
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:3888 comp.lang.postscript:6251
From: uudenis@scivax.lerc.nasa.gov (D.R. Kay)
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4 expansion questions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: comp
Date:  6 Jan 1993 11:08 EDT  

In article <93006.085524FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>, <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET> writes...
[discussion of Laserjet 4 memory deleted...] 
> Of course if you want another SIMM-based emulation, you've had it. I think
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are there any other SIMM-Based emulations available??  We need LN03 Plus 
(actually TEK 4010/4014) emulation for some old graphics applications that are
in the process of being converted to PS, but not fast enough.  We have found 
that for simple plots ), TEK 4010/4010 is the fastest for print request to 
output for various printers/languages/emulations we've tested.  Occasionally we 
need high volume output >> 1000 pages a day.

################################################################################
                                   Dennis Kay
                             NASA Lewis Research Center
                            uudenis@scivax.lerc.nasa.gov
                                  216-433-5149
################################################################################
Xref: sparky comp.periphs.printers:3860 comp.editors:3194 comp.text:1551 sci.electronics:22380