HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brydon@asl.slb.com (Harvey Brydon (918)250-4312)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Launch sequence of events?
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:05:38 GMT
Reply-To: brydon@dsn.SINet.slb.com
Organization: Schlumberger/Anadrill Sugar Land, TX

Philip R. Forrest (Forrest@eng.au) writes:
>Here's a good trivium...How can ANY engine develop more than 100% of rated 
>power output ?? (i.e. 104% ?)

I'm an electrical engineer, not a rocket scientist, but if principles of
electrical generators apply to rockets...

Electrical generators in hydro stations routinely run at 110% (or whatever) of
rated capacity during peak loads.  In one respect, the rating is a somewhat
'soft' ceiling and the actual load can be exceeded for 'short' periods of
time.  The term 'short' for large generators can be measured in days.  The
rating assumes steady state operation (which it isn't) and is mostly thermal
in nature.  It takes a long time to heat up one of those suckers, and 'burn
out' would have to be pretty drastic over a long period of time.

Same thing with circuit breakers.  While a 35 amp breaker is designed to trip
at about 35 amps steady-state operation, it is also designed to pass much
larger currents (ie. about 200 amps) in surges for short periods of time to
allow for things like motors to start up.  A motor will routinely generate
this kind of load when you turn it on.

Is this applicable to shuttle engines?  Do I get a gold star?
_______________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: davem@ee.ubc.ca (david michelson)
Subject: Re: How to Download from Sapcelink
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:35:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.141413.12040@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> hl5a@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Winston Lin) writes:

>	I have succesfully logged onto Spacelink, but having
>problem downloading some documents because none of the option
>for the data tranfer provided by the Sapcelink would suit my
>situation (I telnet to Spacelink via my Unix Account, 
>not by modem).

As you've already guessed, you *can't* download files from Spacelink
if you login via the Internet.  As I recall, however, all the Spacelink
files are mirrored by the Ames space archive and can be accessed by
anonymous FTP.  Perhaps someone can fill in the details and (1) ask the
maintainers of Spacelink to make this information available in a prominent
place on Spacelink and (2) add it to the sci.space FAQ list as well.
 
Hope this helps.
 
--
Dave Michelson
davem@ee.ubc.ca
   
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From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:22:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

You know, this is even better than rec.humor.funny....
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: orbital elements for the next flight?
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:03:38 GMT
Organization: EDS Unigraphics, Cypress CA
Nntp-Posting-User: taghavi

  Anyone have initial orbital elements for the next shuttle flight at the end
of November?

Thanks




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Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: rbw3q@helga9.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert B. Whitehurst)
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:10:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.185152.2122@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>
>          
>
>                 RUSSIA'S OPERATIONAL STAR WARS DEFENSE SYSTEM
>          
>               In February 1992, Russian President Boris Yeltsin 
>          proposed to the United States and the United Nations a global 
>          defense shield (with "Star Wars"-type weapons) BASED ON 
>          RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGY. 

[REALLY weird stuff deleted]

	Geez, McElwaine, and snarfy over on sci.space!  OK, so who
left the door to alt.conspiracy unlocked???  Somebody shut it!!
-- 

Brad Whitehurst    |   Aerospace Research Lab
rbw3q@Virginia.EDU |   We like it hot...and fast.
From: forrepr@eng.auburn.edu (Philip R. Forrest)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Hubble
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:26:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov12.232654.4613
Reply-To: forrepr@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

In article 2B029F68@catpe.alt.za, Richard.Reynolds@f5.n7103.z5.fidonet.org (Richard Reynolds) writes:
>1)Are there attempts going on to fix the Hubble telescope and if so what
> are they and what chance do they have of success?

I believe there is a Shuttle Flight manifested for late next year that
will visit the Hububle (uh, I mean Hubble) telescope. From what I've
heard, the chances of success are pretty good. The defect in the scope's
mirror is said to be 'perfect', so I *think* they'll just have to replace
the main CCD camera with one of a different focal length.

If I were the Dictator of NASA (yeah, right) I would send EVA god
Jerry Ross to do the actual switchout. 
 
>
>2)What other Space telescopes are being planned? (if any)

I am severely ignorant on this matter...

>
>3)Why was the Hubble's mirror made of glass as opposed to something like
>  Aluminum?
>
My guess is that glass was chosen because it is less susceptible to thermal
deformation. Plus, it is much easier to work with than Aluminum. 

I think the mirror is coated with a micro-thin layer of aluminum.

--
Phil Forrest - Ascent FDO wanna be
Auburn University Mechanical Engineering
Auburn, AL
From: koszelak@ucrmath.ucr.edu (stan koszelak)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:39:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <1992Nov4.185152.2122@cnsvax.uwec.edu> mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
-                 RUSSIA'S OPERATIONAL STAR WARS DEFENSE SYSTEM
-          
-               In February 1992, Russian President Boris Yeltsin 
-          proposed to the United States and the United Nations a global 
-          defense shield (with "Star Wars"-type weapons) BASED ON 
-          RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGY. 
-          
     [ Stuff deleted]

-               My main source is articles published in a weekly 
-          legislative newspaper, WISCONSIN REPORT (WR), of Brookfield, 
-          Wisconsin, (P.O. Box 45, zip 53005), written by the late Dr. 
-          Peter David Beter, a well-respected Washington, DC attorney, 
-          Doctor of Jurisprudence, and expert and consultant in 
-          international law, finance, and intelligence, who received 
-          much of his information from associates in the CIA and other 
-          intelligence groups of other countries who disapproved of 
-          many of the things happening or being planned behind the 
-          scenes.  They believed that at least limited public exposure 
-          might delay and ultimately prevent the worst of those things, 
-          such as NUCLEAR WAR and NATIONAL DICTATORSHIP, from taking 
-          place. 
          
     [ Stuff deleted ]

Gee, Mr. McElwaine, do you really believe things written by a guy named 
Peter Beater?
From: rforster@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Russ Forster)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Shuttle Launch Info?
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:40:47 -0800
Followup-To: sci.space.shuttle
Reply-To: RFORSTER@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <27205@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, bonanni@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Bonanni) writes:
> Hi all!
> 
	Through an incredle stroke of luck I was in Orlando on holidays
	when Columbia went up.  So I'll try and answer your questions from
	that point of view.

> 1.  Can anyone confirm this date and tell me what time of day the launch
> is scheduled (or point me in the direction of this info)?

	nope.

> 2.  Will the fact that it's a DOD launch be a problem?

	Nothing can stop you from watching it from the highway ;-)

> 3.  How do I go about seeing the launch? ie, how early should I show
> up, where do I go for the best view (or is there any choice in the matter),
> who do I bribe :> etc.
> 
	Columbia was to launch at 11:16 so based on that, we made sure
	we got there 2 hours in advance.  The travel time from Orlando
	to KSC is 1 hour via the bee-line (make sure you have change for
	the toll booths).  We watched it from US 1 a few miles north of
	SpacePort USA.  An enterprising young lady was charging $5 to park
	on some grass directly across from the launch pad (about 4.5 miles
	away).  We had a great view of Columbia, the only regreat is that
	we were not closer.

> I apologize if these are dumb or often asked questions, but I've just
> discovered this newsgroup, and couldn't find a FAQ or anything.  Any
> replies will be appreciated... needless to say, I'm all a-tingle at
> the chance to the the shuttle go up!
> 
> dave
> bonanni@oasys.dt.navy.mil
> .sigless as usual

	Hope this helps a little.
-- 
Regards,

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BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., V8X 4S8
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Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: ctillier@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Clemens Emmanuel Tillier)
Subject: Re: Launch sequence of events?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:50:15 GMT

-Funny, this whole thread about SSME ratings is beginning to remind me of the
movie "Spinal Tap". 

"So why don't you just make 104% be 100% and forget about it?"

"But... This one goes to 104..."


Clem Tillier <ctillier@phoenix.princeton.edu>
No, really, the shuttle goes to eleven...
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: cpetersn@iastate.edu (Clifton R Peterson)
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:20:12 GMT

Did this guy write for Dr Who?  <g>

-- 
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From: Robert.Hartill@cm.cf.ac.uk ('Tis I)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Shuttle land info (was Re: Shuttle Launch Info?)
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:44:54 GMT
Organization: Computing Maths (COMMA), UWCC, Wales, UK

RFORSTER@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA wrote...
-|
-|> 1.  Can anyone confirm this date and tell me what time of day the launch
-|> is scheduled (or point me in the direction of this info)?
-|

I think it's December 2nd, early morning.

-|
-|> 3.  How do I go about seeing the launch? ie, how early should I show
-|> up, where do I go for the best view (or is there any choice in the matter),
-|> who do I bribe :> etc.
-|> 

I'll be in Florida from December 5th-19th.
The landing is scheduled for Dec 9th, around midday.

Now, where's a good place to watch the landing ?
 
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    \______e-mail : rhl@cm.cf.ac.uk _________ Fax : +44 (0)222 666182_______/
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Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Shuttle Launch
From: Jeff_Green@kcbbs.gen.nz (Jeff Green)
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:45:43 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

To bonanni@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Shuttle 53 has been postponed until early December, the original launch
date.There are a number of public viewing areas at the Cape.Try contacting
SpacePort USA, their public relations dept. will give you all the info 
you require and times of tours available.It's a declassified D.O.D.
mission, so maybe there will be tuors to see the launch. If not, anywhere
along Cocoa Beach, will give you a good view.
But there's nothing like being there as I was to see Endeavour go up 
in May. The view from the NASA press site is unbelievable.You have to 
have NASA Accreditation to get in there past the security gates etc:
Message ends.
Jeff_Green@KcBBs.gen.nz.
J.M.L.Green. NZSA,FBIS.
National Secretary/Treasury/Education Officer
New Zealand Spaceflight Association Inc:
From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:30:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <7735@lib.tmc.edu> drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:
>You left out their PHOTON TORPEDOES.

No, no, no. You misunderstand. McElwaine ripped off Star Trek w/his FREE
ENERGY TECHNOLOGY<tm> article. In this one, he rips off from Japanese anime.
The particle beams and psychic resonance whatchamacallit are from Mobile Suit
Gundam. The Neutral Particle Beam that caused the tidal wave near India is
similar to the Wave Motion Gun from Spaceship Yamato (called Starblazers in
this country) and the a-grav drive is from any number of anime shows that
lean too far away from reality or make up their own physics. I think the
Cosmospheres sound similar to some spherical mecha I saw in Mobile Suit Gundam
too. Then there's that stupid attempt to link "retirement" to "termination"
a la _Blade Runner_. This guy isn't even original.

Oh yeah, the Subcraft is really a toy from the GI Joe line. 

To think that someone told me that reading too much science fiction would do
no good. Look here, I can find hoaxes by matching them with fiction. ;-)

I could slip in a parody of this article if anyone wants me to waste the
bandwidth. Maybe not.



-- 
Patrick Chester            |----------------------------------------------------
wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu |"The earth is too fragile a basket in which to keep
Politically Incorrect      |  all your eggs." Robert A. Heinlein
Future Lunar Colonist      |"The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us
#^%$!! Militarist          |  are going to the stars." Anonymous
(Of the Sun Tzu mentality) |----------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: glp7584@tamuts.tamu.edu (Gordon Lee Powell Jr)
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense System
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:47:06 GMT

In article <83250@ut-emx.uucp> wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester) writes:
>In article <7735@lib.tmc.edu> drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:
>>You left out their PHOTON TORPEDOES.
>
>No, no, no. You misunderstand. McElwaine ripped off Star Trek w/his FREE
>ENERGY TECHNOLOGY<tm> article. In this one, he rips off from Japanese anime.
     [. . .]
>a la _Blade Runner_. This guy isn't even original.

>Oh yeah, the Subcraft is really a toy from the GI Joe line. 

What?  You don't think it could be the Flying Sub from Voyage to the
Bottom of the Sea?  Thoroughly enjoyable show, except for the fact that
there were only about two stock shots of the Seaview crash diving to the 
bottom for the whole series.

Gordon L. Powell, Jr. '89            glp7584@zeus.tamu.edu (VMS on VAX 9000)
Aero Engr  Texas A&M Univ.           gordon@aero.tamu.edu (D. U. on S. C.)
Oh well, some people can flame in a nitrogen environment.--Les Earnest
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: forrepr@eng.auburn.edu (Philip R. Forrest)
Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Frequencies Scannable?
Reply-To: forrepr@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:49:50 GMT


I am definitely not a communications specialist, but I'll give these
a once over...
>
>Is that information publically available?  

Well, if you find yourself in Houston, you can pick up
both CAPCOM and NASA-Select Audio around the 170ish Mhz range.
Other NASA-villes may have similar set-ups. The Public Affairs
Office has never arrested anyone for asking questions. 

>Are the transmissions scrambled?

I think the Flight Surgeon's Channel is scrambled for crew
personal privacy. I guess so you won't hear:

'Hey Doc, Where's the Immodium AD ?!?!?!?!?!?'

Also, I'm sure they'll scramble the 'juicy' audio from
the upcoming DOD flight; although, the 'phone' of choice
will probably be the relatively new laser communications
system.

>Can someone post the frequencies?

I think UHF and C-Band are the utilized bands during dynamic
flight phases. It's just a guess, but they probably use the
military band (~300-400 Mhz ?)

I have heard CAPCOM on NASA Select say:

"Atlantis, Houston. COM check, UHF only"


...just my two cents...

--
Phil Forrest - Ascent FDO wanna be
Auburn University Mechanical Engineering
Auburn, AL
From: ericf@npic.Corp.Sun.COM (Eric Francis)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Russia's OPERATIONAL Starwars Defense Syste
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:33:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ericf@npic.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: npic.corp.sun.com

Yeah.  Right.  Is the Wisconsin Report owned by the same people as the National
Enquirer?

This is almost as entertaining as the article in the computing center newsletter
at Univ of Mich in '84 about how they lost their bid for a supercomputer because
they were not prepared for a terrorist strike.  Therefore they were going to 
give all the operators commando training and uzi's.  At least it would
have made people more polite when asking for listings...

Eric
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: UDMH
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:52:35 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1469200004@igc.apc.org> tom@igc.apc.org writes:
>do we still use UDMH as a liquid fuel?

Yes.  Assorted hydrazines -- hydrazine itself, monomethyl hydrazine (MMH),
unsymmetrical dimethyl hydrazine (UDMH), and various mixtures -- are used
for a wide variety of rocket systems, notably as primary fuels for Titan,
Ariane, and Long March.
-- 
MS-DOS is the OS/360 of the 1980s.      | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
              -Hal W. Hardenbergh (1985)|  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Space Shuttle Frequencies Scannable?
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:30:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu

I can't find a FAQL, so lets hope this isn't a FAQ... 

I was looking at scanners, and I was wondering if its possible to pick
up space shuttle frequencies on any scanners.  

Is that information publically available?  
Are the transmissions scrambled?
Can someone post the frequencies?

Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

-Bill
-- 
Bill.McGonigle@Dartmouth.edu  - Stir, Whip, Stir, Whip, Whip, Whip, Whip, Stir, 
Beat -To Make Bantha Suprise - "Do you ever get the feeling that the story's too
damn real, and in the present tense?"-Jethro Tull  -  I shot J.R. - H. Simpson
Snail Mail: HB 2660, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, 03755-4015. (603) 640-5780
From: hl5a@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Winston Lin)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: How to Download from Sapcelink
Date: 4 Nov 92 14:14:13 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Hello There,
	I have succesfully logged onto Spacelink, but having
problem downloading some documents because none of the option
for the data tranfer provided by the Sapcelink would suit my
situation (I telnet to Spacelink via my Unix Account, 
not by modem).
	Any help would be much appreciated...

	Thanks,

		Winston
From: Richard.Reynolds@f5.n7103.z5.fidonet.org (Richard Reynolds)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Hubble
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:31:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: catpe.2852.2B029F68
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7103/5 - The Chatterbox, Durban

Hi there!

I was wondewring about space telescopes in general and the Hubble
telescope in particular and a few questions came to mind

1)Are there attempts going on to fix the Hubble telescope and if so what
 are they and what chance do they have of success?

2)What other Space telescopes are being planned? (if any)

3)Why was the Hubble's mirror made of glass as opposed to something like
  Aluminum?

Thanks for any Info!

Cheers
Richard
 ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ Don't buy furs, it takes trees to make protest signs.


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Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
From: Bruce_Dunn@mindlink.bc.ca (Bruce Dunn)
Subject: Re: Shuttle's rocket booster question
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:21:20 GMT

> Brian Stuart Thorn writes:
>
> I believe the RCS thrusters have also been used for very minor orbital
> maneuvering where the OMS engines would not be efficient. Specfically, the
> RCS thrusters were used to adjust the orbital parameters during all of the
> rendesvous missions, most recently the STS-49 Intelsat VI rescue flight.


        I believe that the RCS thrusters also have the capability of
performing a de-orbit burn if the OMS system is non-functional.


--
Bruce Dunn    Vancouver, Canada   Bruce_Dunn@mindlink.bc.ca
From: petej@phred.UUCP (Peter Jarvis)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Launch sequence of events?
Keywords: lab5.eng.auburn.edu
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:01:57 GMT
Reply-To: petej@phred.UUCP (Peter Jarvis)
Organization: <1992Nov9.054245.3985@news.duc.auburn.edu>o

In article <1992Nov9.054245.3985@news.duc.auburn.edu> forrepr@eng.auburn.edu writes:
>
>Here's a good trivium...How can ANY engine develop more than 100% of rated 
>power output ?? (i.e. 104% ?)
>
Because 100% here means "of the original thrust specifications". Since 
upgrading and uprating has been done to the SSME's, they can now throttle
4% higher with 109% being max engine thrust. They are leaving a 5% safety
margin.

Peter Jarvis.............
From: dsf5454@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle
Subject: Re: Launch sequence of events?
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:40:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: ultb.1992Nov9.144011.20315
Reply-To: dsf5454@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov9.054245.3985@news.duc.auburn.edu>, forrepr@eng.auburn.edu 
(Philip R. Forrest) writes:

>Here's a good trivium...How can ANY engine develop more than 100% of rated 
>power output ?? (i.e. 104% ?)

I could be wrong, but I recall seeing somewhere that 104% indicated that it was
104 percent as compared to the old standard; therefore it would be the
equivalent of 100 percent to the current standard. Can anybody clarify or add?

--Dan

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