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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Tired of UT fans?
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:16:42 GMT
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In <Btvs1p.HJC@rice.edu> rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu writes:

> Why does A&M get such a bad rap from other schools in this state?

  Where to start? :-)

  Let's face it.  From the early days of 1876 until now, Texas A&M has always
been populated largely by a very peculiar crop of individuals.  Back in the
all-military days, the combination of army peculiarities and general rowdyness
endemic to college students in general led to some bizarre incidents, strange
rules and customs, and behavior generally considered odd outside the Brazos
Valley.  There is a lot of that still going on today.

  Aggies are *different*.  Or maybe people just don't like the idea that Aggies
say they're different, and like it.  Nay, they revel in it.  And they tend to
be very sensitive to criticism of their school.

  There are several awfully good schools in Texas.  But there is only one place
as big, good, and peculiar as Texas A&M. 


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: NCSU!
Keywords: nn
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:54:17 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

>
>Hey cmuck.  I'll be in Death Valley Saturday.  Maybe I'll see ya; in
>fact, let's get our groups together after the game, pal around, get a
>bite to eat, talk about the good ol' net.times we've had.
>
sounds good to me, email me you phone number, and I can give you a call
as soon as I get to Baton Rouge friday.  I can let you know where I am
sitting at that point, and/or we can plan to meet somewhere...

cmuck
From: bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: USC Trojan News
Date: 1 Sep 1992 13:58:56 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California (USC)
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: USC
Keywords: USC, Trojans

For all of those interested in a team with one of the greatest history
and tradition in college football, read on, and Fight On!

This is reprinted from "Student Body Right" without permission.

100th TEAM

This will be the 100th USC team (there were 5 years in which USC did
not field a team since 1888).  1992 also marks the anniversary of
several significant USC events, including: 80th anniversary of the
nickname "Trojans" and the 70th anniversary of USC's first Rose Bowl
team.  Plus, four USC national championship teams are celebrating
anniversaries: 1932 (60th), 1962 (30th), 1967 (25th) and 1972 (20th).

Fight On!
Brian A. Kowal
_____________________________________________________________
A Bruin for four years... A Trojan for Life
At USC we are not arrogent... We are just better than you.
_____________________________________________________________



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From: sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt)
Subject: Re: IOWA FALLS 14-24
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:55:35 GMT


In article <1992Sep1.133544.11537@cs.wayne.edu> steve@nova.eng.wayne.edu (Steve
 Phillips) writes:
>You have to give Notre Dame a little credit though.  By refusing to schedule
>Miami in future years because of their "lower academic standards" than Notre
>Dame, they at least gave themselves a shot to go without a crushing defeat
>every year...  That is, if they get by Michigan.
>
>I don't wanna play you if we're not gonna win!  Wahhh!
>What a joke.
>
>Steve.
>U-M '92
>

You're funny!

Does anyone remember 1988?  '90?  Oh yea, I forgot.  Miami
also lost to BYU in '90.  They were depressed after that, they lost their
senses and kicked to The Rocket.

See you in the Fiesta Bowl.  That is, if you can get by Penn State.  ;)
-- 
           Susan E. Schudt                    0 0
     Dept. of Chemical Engineering
      Goooooooooooooooooo  IRISH!           \_____/
             Win Twins!
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: What would you think if....?
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:50:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep04.144923.2993@brtph560.bnr.ca> trice@bnr.ca writes:

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>

No, maybe you personally are not.
But Ive seen the 1990 Virginia-Virginia Tech game mentioned at least 5
times during summer 1992. Thats woofing.

>
>I brought up a game from the same year that another
>person referenced.  How is this any different than bringing
>up a 1991 game?  Huh?                              

Cause 1991 games are a lot more relevant. In fact, as this was the last
game Va Tech played, it is in fact THE MOST relevant game to mention,



>Why must you people insist that I am woofing?

Remember, the word 'you' can be used in singular OR plural. Why such a
personal persecution complex? I was ragging on not just you, but the
multitude of VA Tech woofers.

Everyone is not out to get you....


>Why don't you go study?  

CAUSE IM NOT A STUDENT.   .edu does not mean one is a student.
If you mean "Why dont you go put the rest of the sound recordings on
reserve for the library like you're supposed to and stop reading usenet?"
well, you're right, thats what i should do.

What work are YOU blowing off :-)?


>==========================================================
>                      Tony R. Rice                      
>         Systems Development Environment Support         
>----------------------------------------------------------
>                                Bell-Northern Research     
>mrmidi@aol.com                  Research Triangle Park, NC
>----------------------------------------------------------
>Opinions are my own, and do not reflect those of BNR or NT
>----------------------------------------------------------
>                       "Go Hokies"
>==========================================================
>

SEE?!?! TECH WOOFING, RIGHT THERE IN YER SIG......:-)

-rob
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Subject: Stanford?
Keywords: hello?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:15:59 GMT

Is the internet down at Stanford?

Its been awfully quiet on the left coast...

Michael Nelson
From: dpassage@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (David Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bill Walsh can NOT beat the Aggies!
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:04:49
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
NNTP-Posting-Host: eden.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: wft@soda.berkeley.edu's message of 28 Aug 1992 07:08:32 GMT

In article <17kjdgINN3mk@agate.berkeley.edu>, 
	wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:

   Texas A&M 10
   Stanford 7

   Of course, only 25% of the A&M players get college degrees.

Will, this message contains no misspellings of that junior college's
name, no mention of rich parents or overpaid administrators, not even
a swipe at their grading policy.  In fact, it even _compliments_ that
junior college's athletic program.

Will, we were at the Citrus Bowl together.  I know that you can do
much, much better than this.

David Paschich
From: pokey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vince Rhee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ATM Graduation Rates
Keywords: n
Date: 27 Aug 92 05:48:53 GMT
Organization: 1992-Beat-The-Hell-Outta-Everyone Aggies of Texas A&M

Our own zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) states :
>

	[post and reply deleted for brevity]

>cmuck
>
>ps-  if we get outscored by the trees, I will never hear the end of it...


	Don't worry about being outscored by dem trees.

	Final score : 10-7, A&M.

	But you probably already knew that... :-)

- Vince (who also got out in 4 years plus 3 summer sessions with a
         total of 169 hours)

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From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: acc football fsu style
Keywords: FSU, upsets
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:40:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


After being swept by FSU in head-to-head competition in b-ball season, I
would, this year ONLY, take a win over FSU, over a win over UGA!  I heard
things like,"...guess you guys just didn't take FSU seriously, did you?"
Nothing meanspirited, but it got tiring nonetheless.  Anyway, if FSU goes
into football season overconfident and assuming a free-ride to an undefeated
season without a challenging in-conference game, then I think they'll be in
for a rude awakening.  They play us (Tech) on the road, and I think Clemson
too, but I'm not sure.  However, I seriously doubt that Bobby Bowden will 
allow the 'Noles to get that overconfident.  The memory of 1987 game (I think
this is the right year) against Miami must still be painful.  FSU was a 
near-unanimous pre-season number one, and the game against Miami was moved from
ists previous date to the very first game of the season.  Deion Sanders was the
defensive player being called "a possible Heisman candidate."  They actually
came out with a music video before the season.  They got embarrassed and 
crushed on national television 31-0 by the 'Canes.  The point of that long
story is that Bowden isn't about to let anything resembling that occur again.
But here's hoping that Tech, and maybe some other team too, can surprise
FSU their first football season, the way FSU surprised some so-called "experts"
in the basketball season.
-- 
BERNSTEIN,AVRON P
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt6390a
Internet: gt6390a@prism.gatech.edu
From: dnoble@alnitak.usc.edu (Douglas Noble)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Trojan News
Date: 3 Sep 1992 18:20:00 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alnitak.usc.edu

There is at least one USC fan that looks forward to Russell
White winning the Heisman.  And who is disappointed at the
caliber of the commentary coming from both USC fans and Cal
fans on this network.  Let us upgrade the material that the
rest of the people reading this group have to read.

I recommend that that we avoid the Prop 48 issue.  Cal can boast
of one that worked, but there was one spectacular failure
as well.  Whether USC "accepted" White or not should not
be an issue. We may claim that he did not come here, but it was 
not for lack of effort on our part.  We definately wanted him, and
have taken players with similar difficulties.

As for the fight song - I was amused by the Cal response last year.
But as anyone who has ever sat through a game in the Cal student section 
can attest, this is not a group of intellectual overachievers.

In fact, for a number of years, the Cal-USC game was the biggest in town,
but that was long before any of us were born.

I also recommend checking the facts and the spelling before sending
these flames (I hope I did).  Bring it up a level, fans.
There is no question about the dominance of the PAC-10 in sports.

Doug
From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten Prognostication
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:29:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Sep4.192959.12346
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <168586800.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>In article <Bu0nJ7.ILD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
>peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>>1.	Michigan	10-1	8-0	(No question here)
>>2.	Illinois	 9-2	6-2	(Easy schedule for Tepper)
>>3.	Ohio State	 8-3	6-2	(Nice year in Columbus)
>
>What is the Illinois schedule?  Don't they play Michigan and OSU?
>Also, what happened to Michigan State last year (especially their
>usually awesome defense) and will whatever happened repeat itself?

They play the Buckeyes at home on Oct. 10.


			...Dan
From: rszczerb@schiller.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND's DuBose Situation
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:34:16 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


 	The word just came in from the NCAA concerning the 
status of Notre Dame's DuBose.  He was suspended for 2 games
(NU and MU) for accpeting a $600 dollar loan.  He was also
cleared of any wrongdoing concerning a $25000 car loan which
was also brought into question.

			- Rob
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford vs. A&M (was Re: ATM Graduation Rates)
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:02:59 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) wrote:
}
}The original posting was quite correct about the A&M QB.   This
}was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a major
}college QB and receivers.

A bad performance by Granger, certainly, but the A&M receivers
did just fine.  They were open all night, and Schorp got behind
the defense for a TD twice during the game (only to be overthrown
badly the first time.)

}                           The one TD was actually a broken play
}that was more luck than anything else.

The PAC-10 view of football as displayed on the net is certainly
interesting.  When Georgia Tech beat Stanford last season in the
Aloha Bowl, the decisive score was described as "lucky" because
it was set up by a long punt return.  I have yet to hear Stanford's
lone score against A&M described that way.  And then A&M's QB makes
a great play to elude a strong rush and throw and absolutely perfect
pass to his TE behind the Stanford defense, and that's "lucky" too?

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
"Distant cousins, there's a limited supply ...
                                           big-eyed beans from Venus!"
From: v087jsfu@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DANNY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Western Michigan?
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:48:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Anyone have any news on Thursday's game of Bowling Green State vs.
Western Michigan?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Why did the Gators drop in AP poll?
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 19:14:18 GMT

In article <j.m.crant.1.6.0@nd.edu>, j.m.crant.1@nd.edu (Mike Crant) writes:
|> The Florida Gators dropped from 4th to 6th in the 2nd AP poll of the 
|> season, in spite of the fact that they-- or the teams that jumped ahead of 
|> them-- haven't played a game yet.  What's the deal here?  I haven't heard of 
|> any key injuries or suspensions.  But then, my paper-- the South Bend 
|> Tribune-- doesn't publish anything unless its ND or Big 10.  What's the 
|> news from the swamp?  By the way, I noticed that the Gators moved up a 
|> notch in the latest USA Today poll.  Go figure.

Ok Mike, I'll do you one better.  Why did idle UVa jump two spots into 
the AP top 25 over also-idle Texas and BYU?  Either they rode the NC State 
victory as a pro ACC vote (which I know would upset at least one Wolfpacker), 
or maybe that BYU article in SI had something to do with it.

My point?  Take the polls for what they are: inconsistent and by no means 
either predictable or always fair.  

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: SI Preseason Top 20
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:57:28 GMT

In article <17v6b1INNgv2@agate.berkeley.edu> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>
>Michigan is in the Eastern Time Zone.  They get help from it.  Cal
>played Washington down to the wire.  Michigan was romped by U-Dub.
>Who's the better team?  

But then Cal lost to Stanford who lost to Ga. Tech. (who lost to
Clempson) What does that prove?

>William F. Tell

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: More ASU troubles
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:31:28 GMT

crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
> Heard on the late news last night that the Arizona State University 
> administration had suspended 10 players including the starting QB and one
> of the starting LB's for this Saturday's game against Washington.

     No, they only suspended those two, not ten.

> The word was that they suspended them as an example due to problems with the
> law that the football players had had during the past year.  If this 
> report is true and Jr. quarterback Bret Powers has left school, it would
> mean that a pure freshman would take over the reins of the Sun Devil
> offense this Saturday.
> 
> Ralph--got any more details?

     Well it appears that somebody who's been practicing
at linebacker as of Monday will be starting against the
Huskies Saturday night.  If that indeed happens, more
than likely the bookies will take the game off the boards.
The backup (after the Huskies bash the first guy's head
in) hasn't played quarterback since high school.  Snyder
has managed to lose his top three quarterbacks from
last Spring.

     I say "if that happens" because it's still not clear
what's going on.  Apparently quarterback McGee and the
other fellow are accused of a few incidents *last* fall
involving stealing merchandise from stores.  They were
interviewed by police and McGee says he was told that
if nothing was heard in a few months to forget about it.
Meanwhile, the other fellow made some sort of plea bargain
last spring in which he apparently implicated McGee, so
now suddenly McGee has been served with a summons to appear
for third degree burglary, a felony.

     What's curious about the whole thing is the timing.
The alleged incidents occurred last fall, and the plea
bargain in spring.  Why is McGee suddenly being charged
just days before the first game?  Why wasn't he charged
last Spring?

     Athletic director Charles Harris just gave a riot
act speech on Monday to the media, and now this bombshell.
Things have taken on an almost surrealistic hue around here
at this point.  Everyone is just in shock.

     Tune in for the game Saturday night if you want
a few laughs.  Or if you like dead donkeys.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
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From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Schembechler Syndrome
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:32:59 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <1992Sep2.144216.14522@cs.wayne.edu>
steve@nova.eng.wayne.edu (Steve Phillips) writes:
>I am in strong support of the separation of church and football.  Couldn't
>a fundamentalist see "God made the [school reference deleted] #1" as
>blasphemous?  Just a thought.

The strong test of the church vs. school principle will be when BYU plays
Notre Dame this year.

Personally, I think God will be pulling for a tie but if ND still had
somebody with an islamic name, they'd win.  It's all covered in the
Book of Revelations.
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: To all rabid Aggie fans
Keywords: n
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:49:07 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

>>What about their fullback (Carter, #32, I think) who couldn't catch
>>anything?
> 
>This is a fact.  Carter dropped no less than 5 passes.  If he had
>caught them, it's a good bet that Granger's stats wouldn't have looked
>nearly as pathetic (even if he was bouncing his curve ball off the
>dirt).  In fact, there were a couple that could have gone for really
>BIG yards.
> 
>Hey, that's it....Anahiem Statium is a baseball statium.
>Granger just had his sports mixed up!
> 
It's been no secret that Carter cannot catch..  That is a given...
Cliff Groce is the fullback with hands.  The question is... why did 
they keep throwing to Carter?  I only saw Groce in the game once, 
during the quarterback changes, anyone know if he got anymore playing
time?

About the questionable interception...  I watched the tape frame by 
frame over and over, the ball did hit the ground, and the referee with
the best view indicated incomplete pass.  So who overruled him?  Who's
referees were these?  Oh well, that is the way the ball bounces, you 
just have to live with it...  It's not like we got a fifth down at the
goal line or anything...  ;-)

cmuck
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Dead donkeys vs. Traveler (was Re: USC Trojans)
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:53:13 GMT

serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas) writes:
> Sounds like you woke up with dead donkeys at the foot
> of your bed, a far worse fate, especially considering
> that the Huskies are up next.  

     I only wish I had!  Then I could load the damn
things in a dump truck and haul them off and get them
the hell away from the sports teams.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
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