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From: jdunning@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (John Alan Dunning)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:44:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.005825.13861@netcom.com> mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:

[relevant stuff deleted]

>Bleah bleah bleah!

?????
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From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: SF novels that have become movies (update)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:09:18 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina
Keywords: new, improved, a must-have for all movie buffs

In article <1992Dec16.144713.16198@walter.bellcore.com> kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner) writes:
>Howsabout "Charley" (sp?), from the (possibly Hugo-award winning)
>novella "Flowers For Algernon" by Daniel Keyes?  One of my all-time
>favorites (both the story and the film.

The original story was much more effective than either the later, padded,
novel or the film.

Does Cliff Robertson have some personal interest in the problems of
the mentally retarded? (He also did a film with Robby Benson and George Burns
that treated the issue of mental retardation.)


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From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: ZARDOZ
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:57:43 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: Banzai Institute

In article <BzDtB3.Iun@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
   (David I Schwartz) writes:
> In article <7537@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, fleurant@hri.com (P.Fleurant)
  writes...
>>Zardoz, written, directed and produced by J.Boorman is out 
>>on tape. (CBS video)
>> 
>>It is uncut!   
>> 
> [...]
> 
> How many scenes have been added? Zardoz is one of my all time favorites.
> 

Based on what I recall from the last time I saw Zardoz on tv, some scenes
(featuring nudity) were cut. Perhaps this is what he means by "uncut".
(Damn tv butchers...)

Richard Travsky
Division of Information Technology     RTRAVSKY @ CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
University of Wyoming                  (307) 766 - 3663 / 3668
"Don't try to understand them, just rope, throw, and brand 'em"
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Aliens alternate sequel on alt.sex.stories
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:38:17 GMT


	I was perusing alt.sex.stories for the first time today
(honest) and I came across something called Closer Encounters:
An Alternate Sequel to Aliens.  It was great!  I mean, it took
a while to get used to statements from Ripley like "Eat me...
eat me all night long."  and I was also taken aback to learn
that Newt had been quite sexually active prior to the events of
Aliens.  But in all seriousness, this is perfectly sober
science fiction, only about 10% of which is pornographic.  The
author shows detailed knowledge of the Alien universe and is
much more consistent with other sources (the films and
novelizations) than the cruddy Alien 3 was.  I would much have
rather had this version filmed than Alien 3.  If you have time,
go check it out.

						-Quinn
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From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Re: T2 wish list.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:17:10 GMT

uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de  writes:
> 
> Erm, please, what are you talking about? What sort of "glitching" scenes
> are they, exactly? Having no insider information about that, I'm quite
> at a loss, but very interested. Also what is this "smiling"-scene? And
> whence do you know about these cut scenes?
> 

1. The "glitching" scenes: Following the T-1000's encounter
with a few thousand gallons of liquid nitrogen, he experiences
some difficulty retaining his form and begins to morph into the
things he touches: his feet take on the appearance of the
floor, and at one point he touches a bannister that is wrapped
with yellow safety tape, and his arm obediently takes on a
black-and-yellow striped appearance. 

Most of these were cut from the theatrical and video releases.
Please note, foreign audiences: In missing these "glitching"
scenes you have NOT missed anything that American audiences
saw. The only "glitch" that made it into the final cut is the
shot of the T-1000 immediately after it's fed Arnold's arm to
the big gear in the foundry: a "ripple" passes through the
T-1000, much like interference on a TV, as it tries to retain
its coherence despite the damage it's taken. THAT is the
"glitching" we were talking about.

2. The smile: Filmed, but not included in any release of T2,
was a scene in which John Connor tries to teach Arnold's
Terminator to smile. Terminator makes a few unsuccessful
attempts at mimicking the human gesture, analyzing them in
TermoVision and modulating his facial muscles to make a smile.
The result is less than it should be and two human characters
-- patrons of the gas station they've stopped at -- notice
Terminator's difficulty and conclude he's making faces at them.
It was cut because it went on too long for the small humorous
pay-off it would have provided.

All the scenes that were either scripted but never filmed, or
filmed but never incorporated in the released movie, are
detailed in the screenplay of Terminator 2, available here in
the U.S. for about $20.00. Not a bad price, but still too much
for me. Another source for deleted scenes is Randall Frakes'
novelization of the movie.

Steve
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From: amd52705@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Adrian)
Subject: Re: Unrealistic space scenes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:34:11 GMT
Keywords: n

Understatements of the Decade :

10.	Dan Quayle has no brain.
9.	Cosby is comfortably well off.
8.	I didn't do so well on my math test.
7.	Microsoft Windows tends to crash.
6.	Marker ink smells good.
5.	IBM is not doing so hot.
4.	The USA has an education problem.
3.	Somalia is warm.
2.	Aladdin was a good movie.
1.	"And there's still the problem of mining the stuff." (referring
	to the mining of anti-matter from an anti-matter planet)
 
						-Adrian









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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Alien 4 - NOT stop-motion animation!! (and it's a doggie)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 05:50:28 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia) writes:

> The film's computer-generated and computer-enhanced Alien 
>> effects, as created by Richard Edlund, are mentioned in the 'Alien3'
>> feature in the June 1992 Cinefantastique.  
>
> Would you please be more specific and write what they did? 

I'd love to, but unfortunately the articles spend more time trashing the
movie than explaining how it was made.

> Hmm... I have Cinefex story for Alien 3, but have not yet read it, even
> I have had the magazine months. Guess, I waited to see the movie first. 
> Are stories as good in Cinefantastique? 

'Cinefex' is much more technical than 'Cinefantastique', which is more of
a personalities-and-light-tech magazine.  'Cinefantastique' also panders
*way* too much to the Star Trek geeks -- it seems like every other issue
has a feature on Star Trek This or Star Trek That.  I do like the magazine,
though.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: amd52705@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Adrian)
Subject: Re: Unrealistic space scenes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:58:01 GMT
Keywords: n

[stuff about an antimatter planet being like gold]

Hmm. Well then, gold is
1. Explosive
2. Deadly to the Touch
3. Waiting Maliciously to blow you into little quark type bits

		- Ron

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From: jlevine@apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:14:09 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Dec15.011530.1956@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
 
|> A little thought experiment I've been working on:
|> 
|> 	If you were riding in a Russian sleigh pursued by hungry wolves
|> 	and had to throw out one passenger to lighten your load and your
|> 	only travelling companions were McCaulay Culkin and Wesley
|> 	Crusher, who would you jettison and why?

	Wesley Crusher...
	
	McCaulay's character beat up some bad guys. Wesley saved the Universe
	as we know it...
	
	--Jennifer
	jlevine@apollo.hp.com
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From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:56:59 GMT

cew2w@Virginia.EDU  writes:
> 	Concerning Sci-Fi books that would make good movies,
> I don't think the Dirk Gently novels would make good
> movies.  The plots are incomprehensible and the books aren't
> that funny themselves.
>   	Does anyone out there think "Sphere" by
> Michael Crichton would be a good movie?  James Caan, Dana
> Delany, and Wesley Snipes in the leads?  Get Ridley Scott to
> direct?  I think it would be damn good.
> 	How about "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card?  You know
> who you could get to star?
> 	MAUCALY CULKIN!!!!

Bite your tongue, Wrike.
Better yet, bite the fingers you used to type that.

Steve
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From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: T2 wish list.
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:15:32 GMT
	<1992Dec12.002932.13149@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway

>>>>> In article <1992Dec12.002932.13149@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson) writes:

> chandler@maths.tcd.ie  writes:
>> Given that it appears currently be the fashion to release 
>> D.C.'s here's my wish list of what Cameron should do...

>> 1	At the end of the film drop Sarah's cringe-making
>> 	"maybe we can to" line and cut straight to the 
>> 	credits.

> Why not go the whole nine yards and delete all of her voice-overs? I
> found every single word she spoke, except during the prologue, to be
> tedious and suspense-killing. And the final v.o. was just the worst
> of the lot. It ALL needs to go.

Not all of the voice-overs were totally misplaced. Some of the desert
scene voice-overs were OK. Too long, though... Could be cut before it
got tear-dripping.

Voice-overs should be unnecessary. You should be able to explain
everything with pictures. I was embarrased by the voice-overs in
"Blade Runner" and embarrased by the voice-overs in T2.

I like Harrison Ford (Han Solo was one of my boyhood heroes. Stuff
like that goes *deep*...) and I *really* like Linda Hamilton. That
only made the embarrasment worse, however.

- Steinar
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From: gschlesi@scott.skidmore.edu (Christopher Robin)
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:49:03 GMT

"Apology accepted, Admiral."  -Darth Vader after he chokes the guy.
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: alien 4 - not stop-motion
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:56:10 EST

Sorry for butting in, Lazlo, but...

Could you please post me a message with the address of Cinefex? I've
never seen the magazine, & as I'm extremely interested in s f/x
techniques (from mattes to make-up to computer), I wouldn't mind to get
hold of a professional magazine at last...

Again, thanks for your help in advance, & take care

Robert
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From: fils@iastate.edu (Douglas R Fils)
Subject: solar crisis (anyone seen it?)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:54:10 GMT


rec.arts.sf.movies,
	Has anyone seen the movie Solar Crisis yet?  I saw
one add for it once while watching ST:TNG and haven't heard
anything else.  I would like to go see it.

any comments would be welcome

|Douglas Fils, fils@iastate.edu, Dept. of Physics & Astr., Iowa State Univ.
|"Look! If they are able to accomplish all this when they have just begun
|to exploit their linguistic and political unity, just think what they will
|do later!  Nothing will be unattainable for them!"    -Genesis 11:6-
|Jehovah, on the city of Babel in the land of Shinar, also called, Babylon.
-- 
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From: jgray@crash.cts.com (Jeff Gray)
Subject: Re: ZARDOZ
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:37:01 PST
Keywords: ZARDOZ

In article <7537@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> fleurant@hri.com (P.Fleurant) writes:
>Zardoz, written, directed and produced by J.Boorman is out 
>on tape. (CBS video)
>
>It is uncut!   
>
>This 1974 film stars  S.Connery (007) in a very non-James Bond
>role with C. Rampling.
>
>IMHO this movie is still way ahead of its time and no other SF film
>has since come close to its satire, comedy, and drama.
>
>----------
>P.Fleurant
>

Ahhh, but it is much better on laserdisc where it is in WIDESCREEN!
If you've seen the movie as many times as I have (...don't ask...)
you will agree.  BTW, I've seen the CBS version of Zardoz, so what
exactly do you mean by "uncut"?  If you meant uncut as opposed to the
TV slice'n'dice version then, yes, of course.  There is MUCH in Zardoz
that unfortunately (fortunately?) can't be seen in the TV version.
Most of which pertains to the plot!  They did the same to Heathers when
it was shown on Comedy Central.  Such a pity.  The unelightened masses
watching a movie edited and believing that's it...  Such a pity...

  -Jeff

"...So what about the DJ?!"  -Ottorongo
From: thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Stephanie M. Clarkson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: total recall
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 22:56:56 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

Just watching Total Recall and noticing two things...
 
First, if a movie is based on Philip Dick stories, the conclusion
is ambivalent (Was Dekkard a replicant?  Was Quaid just dreaming?)
 
(my personal conclusion is yes on both counts...)
 
Second, I noticed the bit when the Arnie and Sharon are at breakfast,
and the announcement of the World Series game was made...everyone
thought it was a big joke at the time..."The Tokyo Samurais and the
Toronto Blue Jays."  Yeah, right.  The Jays make a World Series?
Sure...

Stephanie...
 
(has anyone else looked at Sword and Sorceress #9, ed. Marion Zimmer
Bradley?  Doesn't that look ALOT like Sharon Stone on the cover?  Just
wondering...)
 


    Stephanie M. Clarkson : thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca         
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What do you give the guy who  |  "Well, there are the usual           
    has nothing?                  |  things; flowers, chocolates,
     -- The wrong phone number.   |  promises you don't intend to
                                  |  keep."           - Cogsworth       
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: ian@nasser.eecs.nwu.edu (Ian Sutherland)
Subject: Re: SF novels that have become movies (update)
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:47:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.192728.10335@asns.tredydev.Unisys.COM> tmm@asns.tr
edydev.Unisys.COM (Tim McCaffrey) writes:
>The Thing was done twice, the remake was in 1982, the original
>was in 195?.

I think the original story was called "Who Goes There?".
-- 
Ian Sutherland
ian@eecs.nwu.edu

Sans Peur
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From: mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:44:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.195012.7950@Virginia.EDU> cew2w@Virginia.EDU (Christopher Edward Wrike) writes:
>	How about "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card?  You know
>who you could get to star?

That could be a good movie... if done right.

>	MAUCALY CULKIN!!!!

[1.5MB of agonized shrieks and violent retching deleted.]

I don't think so.  
-- 
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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:16:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.231812.9537@ac.dal.ca> 01fortec@ac.dal.ca writes:
>This is probably cheating, but my favorite one-liner happened in real
>life. It was a magnificent understatement by the pilot of an Apollo 
>mission when he announced they had lost a fuel cell. He opens up
>with a calm:
>
>"Houston, we have a problem."

guru sez:
	entertaining coincidence time: the same line crops up in 2001....

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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:01:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.194610.12542@Virginia.EDU> ksf3e@Virginia.EDU ("Kayla *Soup* Friedman") writes:
>I am sure that you know that the hitchhikers was made into a
>bbc tv thing, and, with the apparent non-existant funding it
>has was quite funny.  Any of his books would make a good movie,
>in fact, there is a decisive (i can't spell) lack of any really
>good sf or f movies beinb made at all.  too bad for people who
>would see them, eh?

I asked Douglas Adams, while at a booksigning years ago, when we
would get a HGTTG movie.  He rolled his eyes and said, "God may know,
I sure don't."  There have been several aborted attempts to get
a movie made, none have panned out.


--
Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com                       _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)
From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Unrealistic space scenes
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:50:06 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <8131@lib.tmc.edu>, drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David
Gutierrez) writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.141510.62034@cc.usu.edu> I write:
>>Han Solo's blaster pistol penetrates
>>Imperial stormtrooper armor without even scratching the white paint. 
>>No scorch marks, no holes, nothing, yet the trooper dies.
> 
> As I've pointed out before, that armor is probably made by the lowest bidder.

     Maybe.  I'd expect cheap armor to chip, crack, melt, or otherwise
fail.  This stuff acts like it's not even there.  Perhaps it's a
failed stealth armor? 
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From: harit@kripalu.com
Subject: Trying to remember a movie
Reply-To: harit@kripalu.com
Organization: Kripalu Center
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 14:18:34 GMT

I have been trying to remember the name of an SF movie.  Something like "The  
Questor Tapes" about a robot that was left behind by it's inventor.  When the  
humans could not get it to boot they left and he woke up and proceeded to make  
himself more human looking.  He ended up being the last guardian of the Earth.   
The final scene was at the mountan where the Arc landed implying that Moses was  
also a guardian.  It was a pilot for a series but I heard the network wanted a  
run for your life type show and the creator refused to do that to his work.
-- 
Michael Allen Latta
Kripalu Center
harit@kripalu.com
(413)448-3288
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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Re: T2 wish list.
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:41:37 GMT

sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson) writes:

>uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de  writes:
>> 
>> [... stuff deleted ...]  Also what is this "smiling"-scene?
>> 
>2. The smile: Filmed, but not included in any release of T2,
>was a scene in which John Connor tries to teach Arnold's
>Terminator to smile. Terminator makes a few unsuccessful
>attempts at mimicking the human gesture, analyzing them in
>TermoVision and modulating his facial muscles to make a smile.
>The result is less than it should be and two human characters
>-- patrons of the gas station they've stopped at -- notice
>Terminator's difficulty and conclude he's making faces at them.
>It was cut because it went on too long for the small humorous
>pay-off it would have provided.
>
>Steve

	Also from the novelisation: this cut scene would have explained
the odd scene where Arnie picks up the 60 rounds / sec Gatling gun type
thing and twists his face into a sort of smile, and John Connor sez:
"It's definitely you."  Knowing that Arnie was trying to learn how to
smile (as well as give the thumbs-up and say "dick-wad", which we knew)
would have added a bit of extra humour to this part.
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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU (Christopher Edward Wrike)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:50:12 GMT

	Concerning Sci-Fi books that would make good movies,
I don't think the Dirk Gently novels would make good
movies.  The plots are incomprehensible and the books aren't
that funny themselves.
  	Does anyone out there think "Sphere" by
Michael Crichton would be a good movie?  James Caan, Dana
Delany, and Wesley Snipes in the leads?  Get Ridley Scott to
direct?  I think it would be damn good.
	How about "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card?  You know
who you could get to star?
	MAUCALY CULKIN!!!!

	--Chris Wrike
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Subject: Re: Unrealistic space scenes
From: <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:14:02 EST
 <1992Dec9.193652.1@vax1.umkc.edu><1992Dec15.003951.16495@netcom.com> <1992Dec19.180140.1@vax1.umkc.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

I just watched Star Wars again recently and I *did* see scorch marks on the
Stormtroopers' armor when the camera angle permitted.  And on the officers
uniforms also.  The lack of blood was always due to the laser beam cauterizing
the wound instantly I thought.
                                            ---Eric
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