HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: MACRIDES@WFEB2.BITNET (Foteos Macrides)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: RE: NEWSRC file protection
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:34:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: WFEB2.01GIYH2MK5S00000OP
Reply-To: Foteos Macrides <MACRIDES@WFEB2.BITNET>
X-VMS-To: in%"anu-news@ndsuvm1.bitnet"

In article <01GIYCCAWPLS00007R@WFEB2.BITNET>, Foteos Macrides <MACRIDES@WFEB2.B
ITNET> writes:
> [...] I wanted to put all the NEWSRC. files in a common
> directory so our (generally computer-naive) users don't accidently delete
> them, and to make it convenient to see who's actually using the software (via
> DIR/DATE on the common directory).  So I created device:[NEWSRC] with
> protection W:RWED, and put:
>
> $ DEFINE NEWSRC device:[NEWSRC]NEWSRC.'F$GETJPI("","USERNAME")'
>
> in SYLOGIN.COM.  This yields files as device:[NEWSRC]NEWSRC.username which are
> owned by 'username' if the account has normal privileges (or by SYSTEM if it
> has SYSPRV), and the account's default protection (apparently *not* the common
> directory's protection).  Each user can still access his/her file via the
> NEWSRC logical.
>
>         It all seems to be working fine (and does not require bothering with
> ACL's), but since I'm new at this, I wonder if anyone can anticipate any
> problems with the above.
 
        Here's a problem I just found.  If NEWS is called from an account
which has SYSPRV, the device:[NEWSRC]NEWSRC.username is assigned the same
ownership as the common directory (which happened to be SYSTEM when I first
tried the above).  If normal privilages are restored and NEWS is called again,
NEWSRC.username can't be accessed again (because it belongs to SYSTEM, not
'username'), so an new one is created (which is now owned by 'username'), and
the previous info is lost.
 
        Since I'm the only account on our system which changes privileges from
one login to another, I solved this problem by making MACRIDES the owner of
device:[NEWSRC], but this is not a general solution.  So... did I miss
something in the docs on the "proper" way to maintain a common directory for
NEWSRC. files?
                                Fote
 
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 MACRIDES@WFEB2.BITNET     222 Maple Avenue, Shrewsbury, MA 01545
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From: gowen@walt.CS.MsState.Edu (Lon Gowen)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Thanks.
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:18:33 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State Univ.

I wanted to thank everyone for your help in getting ANU V6.0-3 up and
running.  I still have a few strange things going on, but the major
problems are fixed.

Sincerely,

Lon Gowen, PhD
gowen@cs.msstate.edu
From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Fix for title bug in caching NNTP client code
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:50:49 -0500

Some months ago I reported a problem in a 6.0.3 caching NNTP client setup: 
newsgroup directory panels would show each posting's poster as the title, and
no poster.

I have found the problem.  In NEWSREMCLIENT.C, function server_get_titles, the
code that sends an XHDR FROM command erroneously copies the response text to
irecheck->itemtitle instead of irecheck->itemfrom.  I've patched my copy and it
appears to work as expected now.
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From: connelly@iscsvax.uni.edu (Ken Connelly)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Default subjects
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:51:46 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

When you FOLLOWUP on an item, the default subject provided is the original
subject prefaced by 'Re:'.  When you REPLY to an item, the default subject
provided is the same as the subject of the item, i.e., not necessarily
prefaced by 'Re:'.

Is there any GOOD reason for this?
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
From: gowen@walt.CS.MsState.Edu (Lon Gowen)
Subject: Client setup problem; ANU/UCX config.
Organization: Mississippi State Univ.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:54:44 GMT

I am having trouble setting up ANU News as a client on my VAXstation 4000/60.
This system is using UCX (yes, I know what a joke UCX is) and I have the
protocol set to "UCX" for my server, which is NNTP.MSSTATE.EDU.  The error
I receive when I run NEWS is that NEWS cannot find:
           MULTINET_SOCKET_LIBRARY.EXE
This message seems strange to me since ANU shouldn't be looking for any
MultiNet files since I do not have MultiNet (unfortunately).  In any event,
I am using ANU V6.0-3, and I would greatly appreciate any help.  Any ideas
Bob?  Oh yes, I am running VMS V5.5, and my UCX version is V1.3.

Thanks in advance!

Lon Gowen, PhD
gowen@cs.msstate.edu
From: flowers@admin1.memst.edu (Harry Flowers)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Default itemhold per hierarchy
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:14:33 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Apr13.111342.39301@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>,
 sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane) writes:
> In <1992Apr9.200200.405@mr.gov.bc.ca>, ewilts@mr.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:
>>What I want to do is to set a default itemhold time for each hierarchy.  For
>>example, I'd like all my comp group articles kept for 14 days but my rec group
>>articles for only 5.  
> 
> Try:
> 
> NEWS> SET NEWSGROUP NEWS.*/ITEM=5
> NEWS> SET NEWSGROUP COMP.*/ITEM=14

Yes, I've done something similar to that, too.  But what Ed Wilts wanted (and
I would like as well) was a way to set a *default* item hold for a hierarchy.
That way, when newgroup or checkgroup messages come out, the newly created
groups will have the appropriate item holds by default.  What I'm doing now
is occasionally running a command file I maintain with the whatever.*/item
commands in it to set them correctly.  However, I don't run it often, and
it messes up groups I set /HOLD=1/ITEM=1 after they've been rmgrouped to
let them expire after the articles are gone.

Personally, I put this in the "it'd be nice to have, but don't hold v6.1
up for it" category.  If it wouldn't be too hard to implement, I think it
would be a good idea.  It'd also be nice to have it work so that it propagates
from above levels... so that alt.binaries.* could be set differently than
alt.*.  But, I'll take what I can get ;-).
--
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Memphis State University                & Bitnet: FLOWERS@MEMSTVX1
From: vaughan@sjh.org
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: NEWS Distribution on WAN
Summary: News Network Within a Sub-Net
Keywords: News Distribution Schemes
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:58:02 GMT
Expires: 1 Jul 92 15:59:11 EST
Reply-To: vaughan@sjh.ORG
Followup-To: news.software.anu-news
Organization: St. Joseph Hospital, Cheektowaga NY

-- 
   I am on a WAN with 40-60 Vax/VMS nodes, what would be the best way to set 
up news distribution throughout with ANU?  I have a machine connected to the
outside world (obviously), and we want to use ANU News as a Network wide
discussion system along with distribution of news.

   Would it be best to set up several distribution machines that talk to each
other and then supply services to the machine each was responsible for, or 
have one machine that talks to everyone?

   Has anyone done this within an organization?

Thanks,

Tom
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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: What is HITORY.V60 ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:43:01 CDT
Reply-To: SLOANE@UKANVAX.BITNET
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Apr2.085318.458@hccwmv2>, david@hccwmv2 writes:
> Does anyone known what the file NEWS_ROOT:HISTORY.V60 is used for?

News uses it to keep track of articles that have been seen. Its main
function is to prevent accepting articles that have already appeared
once, but have expired from the main database.
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From: gowen@walt.CS.MsState.Edu (Lon Gowen)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: More details on DEREGISTER problem.
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:24:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Apr14.212435.3966
Organization: Mississippi State Univ.

Here is the latest "news" on my problems with ANU V6.0-3.  News won't run
on any account that does not already have a "NEWSRC.;" file.  If I copy
a current NEWSRC file to a user's account and that person runs News, then
the news comes up; otherwise, I get that strange IFI error.  Any ideas on
why News does this?

My other problems still remain the same.  I cannot DEREGISTER any
newsgroups - by the way, I am running NNTP Client, UCX V1.3, and VMS V5.5
on a VAXstation 4000/60.  If I edit the NEWSRC file and delete any lines,
News just rebuilds the NEWSRC file with all newsgroups back in it.  Is
this what News is supposed to do?  I must be doing something wrong since
no one else seems to be having these problems.  Is anyone else out there
running ANU V6.0-3 as a NNTP Client with UCX?  If so, I would appreciate
knowing how you installed ANU.  Maybe I missed some simple step along
the way.

Sincerely,

Lon Gowen, PhD
gowen@cs.msstate.edu
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Problem with set newsgroup/item= ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:34:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: cmkrnl.1992Apr5.223413.407
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA

In article <1992Mar31.194714.373@whscdp.whs.edu>, kmoch@whscdp.whs.edu writes:
> One of our newsgroups (the one for vmsnet...pathworks - I forget the
> exact name right now) is set for permanent hold on items.  I have
> tried to change this to 90 days, for example, and when I do this
> it shows up correctly on the screen.  HOwever, after Newsskim does
> its thing at midnight, it reverts to "permanent"  -  why is this and
> how can I correct this?

Sounds like you're running the newsskim that's supplied with DECUS uucp,
unmodified.  There's DCL code in there which sets the itemhold of newsgroups to
one number or another based on whether or not anybody is subscribed to them....
and it sets all of the vmsnet groups to permanent, because that's how I have it
here, and configuration management on the DECUS uucp distribution is a big
enough job without keeping track of "distribution versions" of lots of the
command procedures.  Sorry about that.  There are instructions in the doc to
~"read newsskim.com and change anything that looks as though it should be
changed for your site", but newsskim.com can be a little intimidating when
you're first installing things, and many people never look at it again. 

Solution:  Edit NEWSSKIM.COM, find the relevant section, and delete the
"special case" lines that apply to the vmsnet newsgroups.  Just search for
the string "itemhold", and then for the string "vmsnet" -- that should find 
it.  Delete the line that sets the itemhold for vmsnet.*.  Modify or delete
other lines as you see fit.  

Or, you can omit the whole "set itemhold" section -- there's an "enable_this"
symbol that's set at the beginning of the section, and if you set this to .F.
it'll skip the whole mess.  

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
uucp 'g' protool guru, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) Working Group, and
Chair, VMS Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VAX Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
From: john@cutler.com (John E. Babbitt Jr.)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Cnews vs ANU-NEWS sys file format
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:03:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: cutler.1992Apr7.110331.215
Organization: Cutler & Company, Inc., Medford OR (503) 770-9000

Can anyone tell me if the ANU-NEWS sys file format is exactly the same as
Cnews?  E.g., is "ME:" rather than the normal "my_real_site:" recognized?
Is the format site:list,of,newsgroups/list,of,distribution:f: supported?
It'll be easier for me to do editings of Cnews and ANU-NEWS sys files
between connecting sites if ANU-NEWS can support Cnews format.

From an earlier reading:  Is the site0/site1,site2,etc... supported in
Cnews as well?  Thanks for supplying any info.

Regards,

John E. Babbitt, Jr.        {UUCP: ...hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!cutler!john}
Senior Programmer/Analyst   {Internet: john@cutler.com}
Cutler & Company, Inc.      {Phone: 503/770-9000 (voice) 503/770-9014 (tdd)}
Medford, Oregon  97504      {Disclaimer: What I say is my personal opinion}
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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news,news.software.b
Subject: Re: ANU-NEWS to C-NEWS help wanted
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:07:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.155627.2330@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> I am trying to get a SUN ELC running C-NEWS to accept a feed from a VAX 6320

My nntp_access file wasn't set up correctly!  Thanks for all of the help I
received on this.

-- 
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"Slight movement during exposure is often the cause of serious degradation of 
 image quality, although photographers often seem to prefer to blame their 
 equipment, usually criticizing the lens quality!", Ansel Adams, THE CAMERA.
From: cudep@warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: ANU-NEWS to C-NEWS help wanted
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:00:05 GMT
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn

In article <3397@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:
>Something really simple - why bother with the VAX -> Sun feed?  Find an
>external feed for your Sun, run it for a while to make sure it works,
>then terminate the VAX.  You'd skip the step you're having trouble with,
>and not have to deal with ANU at all.  And at the same time, you'll still
>have lots of time for testing out the Sun on its new feed.

This can save some brainache, but there are some advantages to using the
old server to send news to the new server (generically, not specific to
this case).  For one thing it means, you can copy the articles over by
whatever means, update the history/active/etc and people using nntp
to read don't notice that all the article numbers have changed and
have to reread old news. I suppose this relies on having tested the thing
quite hard before doing the big changeover but it's worked well for me.

Cheers,
-- 
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From: dvbig@dymaxion.ns.ca
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Sporadic stack dumps, VMS 5.4, UCX 1.3
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:09:04 GMT
Organization: Dymaxion Research Limited, NS, Canada

I just installed ANU NEWS 6.03 with UCX 1.3 and UCX QIOS sockets
as a client.  Why am I getting sporadic stack dumps?  I have not
been able to determine a particular sequence of commands which
triggers this error.  A sample follows (with escape sequences,
etc. from screen removed):
.
.
.
NEWS> DEREGISTER
NEWS> DEREGISTER
NEWS> SELECT
%SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=04, virtual address=000000CC,
 PC=0003E81A, PSL=0BC00004

  Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.

	Signal arguments	      Stack contents

	Number = 00000005		 000037C3
	Name   = 0000000C		 00018B48
		 00000004		 00000000
		 000000CC		 2FFC0000
		 0003E81A		 7FEF0EF8
		 0BC00004		 7FEF0EDC
					 0004B3B2
					 00018AA4
					 0000D1E0
					 00022AC4

	Register dump

	R0 = 08CC00CC  R1 = 000317D0  R2 = 000000CC  R3 = 000000CC
	R4 = 00000000  R5 = 000000CA  R6 = 00000001  R7 = 0001819C
	R8 = 00018B4E  R9 = 000B8D74  R10= 00000001  R11= 000317D0
	AP = 7FEF0E48  FP = 7FEF0E08  SP = 7FEF0E84  PC = 0003E81A
	PSL= 0BC00004
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: RE: NEWSRC file protection
From: Foteos Macrides <MACRIDES@WFEB2.BITNET>
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:45:00 EST
Reply-To: Foteos Macrides <MACRIDES@WFEB2.BITNET>
X-VMS-To: in%"anu-news@ndsuvm1.bitnet"

In article <01GIXX2TWJWC00007R@WFEB2.BITNET>, Jim Pendleton <pendleton@OSSENU.A
STRO.NWU.EDU> writes:
> Perhaps this suggestion has already been added in a patch to 6.03, or is
> incorporated in 6.1 alpha, but I just noticed that the new NEWSRC.* file
> created from EXITing NEWS inherits the default protection on the directory, as
> opposed to the default protection on the previous version of the file, which
> would be more convenient.
 
        In a similar vein, I wanted to put all the NEWSRC. files in a common
directory so our (generally computer-naive) users don't accidently delete
them, and to make it convenient to see who's actually using the software (via
DIR/DATE on the common directory).  So I created device:[NEWSRC] with
protection W:RWED, and put:
 
$ DEFINE NEWSRC device:[NEWSRC]NEWSRC.'F$GETJPI("","USERNAME")'
 
in SYLOGIN.COM.  This yields files as device:[NEWSRC]NEWSRC.username which are
owned by 'username' if the account has normal privileges (or by SYSTEM if it
has SYSPRV), and the account's default protection (apparently *not* the common
directory's protection).  Each user can still access his/her file via the
NEWSRC logical.
 
        It all seems to be working fine (and does not require bothering with
ACL's), but since I'm new at this, I wonder if anyone can anticipate any
problems with the above.
 
                                Fote
 
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 MACRIDES@WFEB2.BITNET     222 Maple Avenue, Shrewsbury, MA 01545
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Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Getting ANU to work using a mail feed
From: DERMOT BRADLEY <CFBM33@MGVAX.ULSTER.AC.UK>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:31:00 GMT
Reply-To: DERMOT BRADLEY <CFBM33@MGVAX.ULSTER.AC.UK>
Via: sun3.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk; Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:28:47 +0100

Hi
 
I'm in the process of setting up ANU on our VAX with a newsfeed from a UNIX
machine. I'm looking for help/advice from anyone who has succeeded it getting
this to work. In particular does ANU support compressed batches send via mail?
 
I'm using version 6.0.3 by the way.
 
Thanks
 
Dermot
 
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From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Fix for title bug in caching NNTP client code
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:36:57 -0500

I've been asked to post the code change that I mentioned.  I thought I had
described it sufficiently, seeing how trivial it is, but here goes.  VMS
DIFFERENCES:

************
File DISK$SYSTEM2:[ANU-NEWS.NEWS_SRC]NEWSREMCLIENT.C;182
 1238                   util_fromcpy(irecheck->itmfrom,cp);
 1239                   }
******
File DISK$SYSTEM2:[ANU-NEWS.NEWS_SRC]NEWSREMCLIENT.C;181
 1238                   util_fromcpy(irecheck->itmtitle,cp);
 1239                   }
************

Number of difference sections found: 1
Number of difference records found: 1

DIFFERENCES /IGNORE=()/MERGED=1/OUTPUT=DISK$SYSTEM2:[ANU-NEWS.NEWS_SRC]NEWSREMCLIENT.DIFF;1-
    DISK$SYSTEM2:[ANU-NEWS.NEWS_SRC]NEWSREMCLIENT.C;182-
    DISK$SYSTEM2:[ANU-NEWS.NEWS_SRC]NEWSREMCLIENT.C;181

SUMSLP:

- 1238, 1238
                util_fromcpy(irecheck->itmtitle,cp);
/
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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news
Subject: Re: Problems using News client w UCX socket transport
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:47:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1992Apr6.104742.39071
Reply-To: SLOANE@UKANVAX.BITNET
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Apr2.210702.242@cs.tulane.edu>, zmw@vega.selu.edu writes:
> We are trying to run anu-news v6.0-3 on a machine w Ultrix 
> Connection installed.  Invocation of News w/o using /netserver or
> /netprotocol works fine.

What do your news logicals look like (SHOW LOG/FULL NEWS*)?

What happens if you do:

$ NEWS/NETPROTO=UCXTCP/NETSERVER=...
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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news,news.software.b
Subject: Re: ANU-NEWS to C-NEWS help wanted
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:01:53 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Apr13.155627.2330@ducvax.auburn.edu>,
 swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> X> Try open channel to remote node
> X> IHAVE <!6wj-!q.garyd@netcom.com><No reply received, retry: <!6wj-!q.garyd@netcom.com>

It looks like you are doing things correctly, but the sun isn't
letting you connect to the server.  What happens if you telnet to port
119 on sun from the vms system? If that works correctly, then I would
suspect that you are running UCX on the VMS system and need a patch to
NNTP_XMIT.  If you can't telnet to the NNTP port, then there is some
sort of configuration problem on the sun.  The error message you get
from telnet should give you more information.
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From: ccechk@nuscc.nus.sg (Heng Kek)
Subject: Tin: scrolling article line by line.
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:56:55 GMT

Hi, Does anyone who uses Tin out there know how to scroll an
article line by line, instead of screen by screen?  I can't seem
to find the key and it's not listed in the contextual help
either.  A missing feature?  

I'll be grateful for any pointers.

Kek
From: churley@warren.med.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Trouble with newsreaders - help!
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:57:17 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School

I have been playing around with several newsreaders for the Mac and continue to
have problems with them.  I am currently using The News which is working fairly
well.  I also tried Newswatcher and found that it wrapped the newsgroups in the
window so that the were not usable.  Has this happened to anyone else?  How do
you fix it?  Is my application corrupted?  I'd just love to find out.  Mail me
if you know the answers 

churley@warren.med.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.readers