From: un040367@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: DMT Questions
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:38:45 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

{In article <1992Dec22.212054.16140@shearson.com>, curious@somewhere (Curious Furious) writes:
> 
> Hi knowledgeable folks,
> 	I have a few questions from a FOAF:
> 
> 1) When smoking DMT what is the LD50 ? Can it cause a heart attack?
>
Certainly much higher than the amount beyond which one would have
no concept of what a pipe, DMT, oneself, etc. is. Also much higher
than the amount one could get into ones body by smoking before
it was metabolised. I imagine that even if one hooked oneself
to a machine which continously fed oxygen, nitrogen, and DMT
vapour it would still be hard to _physically_ overdose.
As for heart attack, I have no idea. I can imagine being
scared to death (literally).
 
> 2) Has anyone tried doing DMT while on MDMA ? Any complications ?

No idea. However, one of the most striking things about DMT is its
brutalness - the rush from completely baseline to another
universe in about five seconds. Starting off baseline does
little to alter the peak (which tends to override anything)
but alters the severity of the onset.
> 
> 3) Has anyone tried doing DMT while on 'rooms? Any complications ?

Yup - similar to above, except moreso. It takes a large dose
for the effects of the DMT to become visible over the effects of
the trip (likewise for LSD). Also, it is harder to trip on DMT post
psilocybin or LSD, since there is some cross tolerence.

Some combinations with DMT are worthwhile. A couple of beers
beforehand bluntens and deadens a little which can be very
helpful. A good amount of heads will add to the visual 
impact, and a good amount of hash will ad to the wierdness
and otherness. N2O & DMT is interesting, but the combination
is generally intense enough to cause amnesia, and lack of
any kind of regular consciousness for the period of intoxication.

> 
> 4) In the book _Archaic Revival_, Terence McKenna mentions some studies
>    that found that DMT is produced heavily while in the deepest stages
>    of sleep. Anybody have a reference for that?
           
Interesting concept. Like much of McKenna's work, I expect that
the science to back him up is scanty, non-existant, or
occasionally wrong. Makes for a good story, though.
> 
> 5) Since DMT is a naturally occurring substance in the human body,
>    if a machine was created which could extract DMT from your own
>    blood, would that machine be considered illegal?

My limited understanding of US law suggests that if humans
contain DMT then their entire weight can be counted as DMT
(since the carrier weight can be included)
Such a theoretical machine as you suggest  would be covered by
paraphernalia laws?
> 
> 6) Can any MAOI be used to render DMT active orally?
> 
Lamont is the expert on this, and he says yes. I am not convinced,
and I don't think there is any proper research published on
the subject. Even in the case of the traditional harmaline/DMT
interaction, the scientific data is minimal, and it is surmise
only that the DMT is orally activated by the MAOI effect
of the harmaline and not by some other effect.
I hope someone else will fill in the missing details.
>  
> thank you for your time.
> 
my pleasure.

Jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
(not this address)
>