HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sieler@shell.portal.com (Stan Sieler)
Subject: Re: Help! Dinosaur - HP 100/150
Followup-To: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:15:55 GMT

John J. Ladasky II (ladasky@netcom.com) wrote:
: 
: 	The computer is an HP Model 100, Series 150.  It includes a 
: Model 9122 disk drive.  The documentation places the maunfacturing date
...
: 
: 	The problem with the system seems to be the B drive of the 9122
: disk.  I can't do anything with it - and you want to leave the system/
: program disk in the A drive if you can, since the system has no hard drive.
: I've also noticed that the total disk space on the floppies is a little 
: lower than standard - 640K vs. 720K.  So, here are my questions.

I don't remember a newer version of DOS than 2.11, at least not from HP.
You can certainly try a newer version!

I'm a little surprised you can read the floppies on a PC.  The default
method of formatting them on a 150 is not compatible with MSDOS on a PC,
if I recall rightly.

B drive: try running CONFIG, which should be on a floppy somewhere, and
checking the config for B, C, D, E, ..., Z.  Disks beyond those that you
have should be configured as "not there", not as HP-IB (or whatever the
other choices are) ... this will speed up the boot process for  you.

You can get a used disc drive real cheap.  I saw a bunch awhile ago
at Kelly Computer (415) 960-1010, but I suspect any used hardware dealer
would be glad to get rid of them.

Good luck!

Stan Sieler
sieler@allegro.com

(I bought my 150 in October 1983  .. about 2 months before Reflection
from WRQ for the PC obsoleted the 150!)


--
Stan Sieler
sieler@allegro.com
From: johnson@horta.rice.edu (Bruce Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP 730 data, stack, text process limits(?)
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:52:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.C1J8qy.IFE
Organization: Rice University

We have a 730 with 128 MB memory and about 3 times that in swap
space.  One of the users wants to perform as large a calculation
(large arrays) as possible, which will force us to customize the
kernel process parameters, or at least some subset of them.  It
is not clear to me what the subtleties might be in setting maxdsiz,
maxssiz, and maxtsiz.  Can anybody help on this?  What problems
will we be likely to run into setting these parameters up to, say,
340 MB, assuming that only the one mammoth job will be running?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce Johnson
Dept of Chem
Rice Univ
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dpettyjo@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Darrell Pettyjohn)
Subject: How to exclude the copywrite notice@login
Keywords: 
 
  Is it possible to stop the copywrite notice(s) from displaying when a user logs in?
Organization: Royal Roads Military College, Victoria, B.C.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:07:29 GMT


I am running HPUX8.07 on a HP9000/720.
 
  Thanks in advance for any information.
 
  P.S. Thanks to all who responded to my request for a wren7 disktab entry..
From: chross@tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de (Christina Rossmanith )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: software to do X-Y-Z plotting
Date: 21 Jan 1993 14:27:00 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de


I think "gnuplot" could solve your problem. The actual version is 3.2. Just
ask "archie" where to find it. Besides a News-group "comp.graphics.gnuplot"
exists. Maybe one of the readers of that News-group is able to tell you,
where to find the gnuplot-package.

Christina Rossmanith

chross@tolkien.imib.rwth-aachen.de
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:57:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Problem with utmp entries
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

dll@ukc.ac.uk (D.L.Lindsey) writes:

> I have a cluster of HP9000 workstations, running HP8.00.  The utmp file is 
> not being cleared properly when people log out.	 When I do a finger it 
> looks like there are still people logged in although they have no processes 
> running.  Entries for these people still exist in the utmp file.
> 
> Does anyone know what might be causing this and how I might go about 
> solving it?  

  The problem is probably not that utmp is not being cleared properly,
but that is is corrupt due to a previous event. Below I have attached a
recent string about this subject.

  Hope this helps.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center

From prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu Tue Nov  3 02:37:18 1992
From: prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 01:37:18 GMT
Date-Received: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 03:10:55 GMT
Subject: Resetting the /etc/utmp, wtmp files after crashed logins
Organization: Neuroclinical Trials Center, University of Virginia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions

After a recent power failure, several PCs which were logged into our
HP9000 system crashed but their logins still show up with the w command.
There are no associated processes for these logins, they are just
phantoms.  Is there any way to reset these ptys?  I would assume you
could reset the /etc/utmp and wtmp files to do this, but I don't know
how.  Help!

	-Phil
-- 
PHIL SCARR        \      We are Microsoft...     /          (o) 804.243.0229
  University of   /     OS/2 is irrelevant.      \          (f) 804.243.0290
   Virginia,      \     UNIX is irrelevant.      /        prs9k@Virginia.EDU
     Neurosurgery /     Openness is futile.      \     prs9k@Virginia.BITNET
       NTC        \ Prepare to be assimilated... /   ...uunet!virginia!prs9k


From franks Wed Nov  4 13:41:55 1992
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 12:41:55 GMT
Date-Received: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 12:41:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Resetting the /etc/utmp, wtmp files after crashed logins
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:

> After a recent power failure, several PCs which were logged into our
> HP9000 system crashed but their logins still show up with the w command.
> There are no associated processes for these logins, they are just
> phantoms.  Is there any way to reset these ptys?  I would assume you
> could reset the /etc/utmp and wtmp files to do this, but I don't know
> how.  Help!

  Unless you are using accounting (or otherewise using the information
from /etc/wtmp), you only have to fix the /etc/utmp file. If you want to
do this neatly then use fwtmp (see fwtmp(1m)) on the /etc/utmp file. Look
at the format in utmp(4). I *think* you should change the ut_type field
of the unwanted entries to 8 (DEAD_PROCESS). Alternatively you can use
the quick and dirty method:

# shutdown 0
# >/etc/utmp
# reboot

Disclaimer: No guarantee, but this should work.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center

From chris@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Thu Nov  5 15:34:13 1992
From: chris@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christian Finger)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:34:13 GMT
Date-Received: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:54:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Resetting the /etc/utmp, wtmp files after crashed logins
Organization: Computer Center, University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions
Reply-To: finger@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

In article <1992Nov3.013718.15982@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
| After a recent power failure, several PCs which were logged into our
| HP9000 system crashed but their logins still show up with the w command.
| There are no associated processes for these logins, they are just
| phantoms.  Is there any way to reset these ptys?  I would assume you
| could reset the /etc/utmp and wtmp files to do this, but I don't know
| how.  Help!
| 
| 	-Phil

The following program will do the job for you:

/*
 * this code is in the public domain.  do with it as you
 * please.  - jfh. 12/19/90
 */

#include <sys/types.h>
#include <utmp.h>
#include <fcntl.h>

main ()
{
	int	fd;
	struct	utmp	utmp;

	if ((fd = open ("/etc/utmp", O_RDWR)) < 0)
		exit (1);

	while (read (fd, &utmp, sizeof utmp) == sizeof utmp) {
		if (utmp.ut_type != DEAD_PROCESS &&
				kill (utmp.ut_pid, 0) != 0) {
			lseek (fd, - (long) sizeof utmp, 1);
			utmp.ut_type = DEAD_PROCESS;
			write (fd, &utmp, sizeof utmp);
		}
	}
	close (fd);
}

Hope that helps,
	-Christian
-- 
  .     Christian Finger         |  Tel   : (+49) 721/608-4038
 |||    Computer Center          |  Fax   : (+49) 721/32550
\|||    University of Karlsruhe  |  EMail : finger@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
    /   Postfach 6980            |  X.400 : S = finger; OU = rz
        D-7500 Karlsruhe 1       |          P = uni-karlsruhe; A = dpb; C = de

From daves@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com Fri Nov  6 18:35:04 1992
From: daves@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com (Dave Serisky)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:35:04 GMT
Date-Received: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:51:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Resetting the /etc/utmp, wtmp files after crashed logins
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions

In article <1992Nov5.143413.1956@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, chris@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christian Finger) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov3.013718.15982@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
|> | After a recent power failure, several PCs which were logged into our
|> | HP9000 system crashed but their logins still show up with the w command.
|> | There are no associated processes for these logins, they are just
|> | phantoms.  Is there any way to reset these ptys?  I would assume you
|> | could reset the /etc/utmp and wtmp files to do this, but I don't know
|> | how.  Help!
|> | 
|> | 	-Phil
|> 
|> The following program will do the job for you:
|> 
|> /*
|>  * this code is in the public domain.  do with it as you
|>  * please.  - jfh. 12/19/90
|>  */
|> ...

There are a few potential problems with the posted program.  The
/etc/utmp file contains entries of types other then USER_PROCESS or
DEAD_PROCESS.  The program will probably mess up the utmp entries for
the various system entries.  Also, I think there are a few other fields
that need to be set or cleared in order to make a "legal" DEAD_PROCESS.

Casual mucking with the /etc/utmp file can cause problems with your
system.  Problems can range from growing /etc/utmp files to duplicate
/etc/utmp entries for a single tty/pty (which can confuse applications)
to corruption that can prevent you from logging into your system and
will require a reboot to fix.

[BTW, take a look at the getutent(3C) man page for some convenient
functions for working with the /etc/utmp file.]

-- Dave Serisky
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: ksh and canonical kill
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:27:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcbig.1k6k5tINNaa0
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
NNTP-Posting-Host: hptrane.fc.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

: What setting am I missing?

viraw

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
--
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--
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 enforce any ... ordinance ... whereby homosexual, lesbian, or bisexual
 orientation ... shall ... be the basis of ... any ... claim of discrimination"
--
All opinions expressed herein are my personal ones
and do not necessarily reflect those of HP or anyone else.
From: simon@moscow.uidaho.edu (Mike Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Format of the Trace files from nettl?
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:20:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: moscow.C1HtAr.Kz3
Organization: University of Idaho CS Dept.

Hi, is the format of the *.TRCn files created by the nettl program?
Is it just the binary data stream?  I'm writing some analysis tools
and parsing the formatted output of netfmt is to slow for me.

If the answer is RTFM, it's well hidden, neither the man pages nor
the CD-ROM docs give up this information.  

While I'm asking, does anyone know if HP-UX 9.0 will support 
promiscuous mode access of the ieee device?  It's been in the 
include files for years, but never worked.

Mike Simon			simon@moscow.uidaho.edu
Systems Manager			(208)-885-6238
Computer Science Dept.
Moscow, Idaho
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mpicon@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Martin B. Picon)
Subject: passwords
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:52:22 GMT


This is the situation:

There are two systems hp9000/845 and hp9000/847
the 845 was used to run an application (which is not important)
then the application was moved to the 847 (upgrade)
the passwd file on the 845 was moved over to the 847 
in the begining the files were the same now they are not
one system may have users which are not on the other system

since the 847 does not have many ports as the 845 some users login in 
thru the 845 then rlogin into the 847. this is transparent to the users
if a user changes his password on the 847 the password on the 845 remains
the same.  hence my problem. the users do not have direct access to the 
845 because as soon as they log in they are automatically logged in to 
the 847.

is there a way to change the password on the 845 from the 847.
e.g. remsh command, script. any help would be appreciated.
I have tried different things but would like to hear your suggestions.

thanx for any help
-mpicon

p.s. thanx for reading till the end.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jsm@fc.hp.com (John Marvin)
Subject: Re: 425t upgrade to 715/33 t
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:42:45 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Workstation Kernel, Ft. Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]

Michael K. Kibler (mkibler@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu) wrote:

: We are considering upgrading our 425 t to a 710 t. Does anyone have the
: list price on this? I called the HP order number but without a product
: nr they could not find it.

: Also it appears that the 19" color monitor we are using on the 425 t will
: not work with 700 series (at least our 710s). I believe they switched from
: 60HZ to 72HZ. The question is will the upgrade (board swap) work with our
: old 60HZ monitors?

The Series 700 upgrades for the 4xxt and 4xxs boxes support both 60Hz and
72Hz monitors (selectable via a dip switch on the board). 

	John Marvin
	jsm@fc.hp.com
From: tcahoon@msen.com (Tim Cahoon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: libBSD.a for Kermit
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:43:44 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


From: jsu@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Jinn Su)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:49:11 GMT
Subject: SCSI CD-ROM Drive & Soundcard on Vectra 486U problem
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
From: rdg@fc.hp.com (Rob Gardner - Pro Hacker)
Subject: Re: Archive VIPER and HP9000/730
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:51:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

Enrique Navarro Sanchis (navarro@si.uji.es) wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <C0tJ5L.KMv@fc.hp.com> Rob Gardner - Pro Hacker, rdg@fc.hp.com
> writes:
> >> Is anyone using an Archive Viper with the HP9000/7xx series computers?
> 
> How mean Archive Viper...?


Please be careful with your attribution! I did not write the line you
quoted me as writing! You can't just delete the lines beginning with ">"
and leave ones beginning with ">>" or you will produce an erroneous
looking attribution.

Somebody actually sent me mail and wanted to know why I was asking
if anyone was using an Archive Viper!!


--
Rob Gardner                     rdg@fc.hp.com
Hewlett Packard                 303-229-2048
Fort Collins, Colorado
From: smithkl@cpva.saic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: 8mm's on HP 9000
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:30:38 PST
Organization: Science Applications Int'l Corp./San Diego

> 
> This sounds like a known problem where the later versions of Exabyte
> firmware were changed to do immediate reporting on file marks when they
> shouldn't.  Perhaps you're writing file marks at the end of an archive,
> and the rewind command sent to the drive fails because it's busy when
> it shouldn't be.  
> 
> If the vendors from whom you bought the drives represented them as being
> supported on certain systems, then you should work with them to get the
> problem resolved.  It should be possible with a firmware downgrade.
> 
> Dave Kinsell
> kinsell@hpfcmb.fc.hp.com
> 

I don't think this is a backward compatible firmware issue.  The drive that
we have that is working (see previous posts) is a fairly current drive.  The
printout from the system tests performed at the factory show a date of:
Fri Jun 19 09:35:24 PDT 1992.  There doesn't seem to be a firmware version
number or anything other than S/N 0920630###.  The test output also shows
SFO = LK06159210.5 Unit Type = DSU1-300b2 sn = 08042.  This may be firmware
related. Not sure.
Kevin Smith
smithkl@cpva.saic.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: HP9000/730 panics
Keywords: LPMC, pdc_call
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:12:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.112845.21074@hsr.no> kjell@hpa.rf.no (Kjell Sivertsen) writes:
>We have a HP9000/730 running HP-UX 8.07. A couple of days ago
>it stoped promptly, dumped the core, and wrote the following
>message to /usr/adm/shutdownlog:
>
>	Reboot after panic: LPMC handler got error on pdc_call.
>
>Have anyone else experienced something like this?

You must have been running Glance+ and/or have 3'rd party memory in
your system; in any case, get patch PHKL_1101 - we haven't had an LPMC
panic since we installed it.
-- 
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 *******   As usual, I speak only for me, myself and I; nobody else   *******
E-mail: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca  Tel: (416)978-7094  Fax: (416)978-8775
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: duncan@yc.estec.esa.nl (Duncan Gibson)
Subject: NCD Keymaps wanted for SoftPC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 12:07:44 GMT
Organization: ESTEC/YCV, Noordwijk, The Netherlands

The subject line says it all really.

We have just installed SoftPC on a 750 system running HPUX8.07 and it
all seems to work well with the HP 700/RX terminals that we have.
However, we also have quite a number of NCD X-terminals but these are
not part of the list of supported terminals mentioned in the SoftPC
documentation.

Does anyone out there have a set of keymappings that are more suitable
for use on the NCD terminals. As usual, I will summarise any info in a
follow-up article (if I get any that is :-))

Cheers
Duncan
-- 
Duncan Gibson, ESTEC/YCV, Postbus 299, 2200AG Noordwijk, The Netherlands
Preferred email:  duncan@yc.estec.esa.nl    or  ...!sun4nl!esatst!duncan
Desperate email:  dgibson@estec.esa.nl      or  dgibson@ESTEC.BITNET
From: carlson@dwp.la.ca.us (Carlson Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: 425s to 700 series upgrade path?
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:50:02 GMT
Organization: L.A. Dept. of Water & Power

Does anybody ou there know of an upgrade path for the 425s machines?
I heard that there was a board swap to make it into a 700 series machine.
Anybody done it yet?




-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carlson Peters			L.A. Dept. of Water & Power
carlson@manta.dwp.la.ca.us	111 N. Hope St., Room 1129
213.481.7898			L.A. CA 90012
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: richard@fc.hp.com (Richard Artz)
Subject: Re: Help needed on HP 9000/350 crashing (UX 7.0)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:56:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.5]

Michael C. Sidman (mike@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu) wrote:


>  all I see on the consoles are the panic messages. 

	And what do they say?

 
 Richard Artz / OSSD Learning Products / 303-229-2036 / richard@fc.hp.com
From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Fujitsu drives in hp 730 ?
Summary: Disk drives
Keywords: disk
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:01:57 GMT
Organization: Arete Associates, San Diego

In article <Hendrik.Klompmaker.42.727565461@beheer.zod.wau.nl> Hendrik.Klompmaker@beheer.zod.wau.nl (Hendrik Klompmaker) writes:
>I'm shopping for some diskspace and after asking HP for their new 2Gb. disk 
>I found someone to offer the same size Fujitsu drive for half the money. 

Try a third from some vendors (Western Scientific is the best price
I've found).

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: raj@cup.hp.com (Rick Jones)
Subject: Re: How to avoid 'setenv LINES XX' ???
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:21:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

H Prasad Cherukuri (hpcg9070@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Mr. David Brooks writes:
: 
: >Finally, you don't have to setenv directly.  eval `resize` will do it.
: 
: For some reason, eval 'resize' doesn't seem to be working on our series
: 400 machines. We have the same problem as Mr. Meyer is facing. If I 
: set the environment variable LINES, then more, man and vi all 
: work just fine when the windows are resized. HOwever, eval 'resize'
: doesn't seem to be doing the same thing.
: 

Just in case it got lost on the screen, there is an important
difference between single-quote characters. In David's post, the
"resize" is between ` quotes (open single quote, with the ~ char on my
710's HP-US HIL keyboard) in Harish's post, he has put them in '
quotes (close single quotes, with the " key on my HP US HIL keyboard).

David's quotes are the correct ones...

rick jones
a wise set designer once said - "take care of the little things, and
the big things will take care of themselves..."
From: bosch@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Gerhard Bosch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: top for HPUX9.0
Date: 23 Jan 1993 09:40:27 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ifh-hp2.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de

In article <1993Jan20.182443.22193@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan19.155311.13854@lut.ac.uk> G.P.Gerrard@lut.ac.uk (Graham Gerrard) writes:
|> >
|> >Is there a public domain version of top available for HPUX9? I would like
|> >to run on 735s, 755s, 855s, 870 + 827s.
|> 
|> Does the version on iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu (for 8.0x) not work, possibly
|> after recompiling?
I got that version of top and it looks like that it's not suitable for the
memory I have in the maschine. I have 96 MB of RAM, but the numbers given
by the program for free memory and used memory by different processing will
never sum up to the physical memory.
                          Sincerely, Gerhard Bosch

|> -- 
|> core error - bus dumped    -*-    Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
|>  *******   As usual, I speak only for me, myself and I; nobody else   *******
|> E-mail: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca  Tel: (416)978-7094  Fax: (416)978-8775
From: robs@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Rob Slotemaker CRC)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:57:57 GMT
Subject: Re: DDS distribution (was: Patching policies of HP)
Organization: HP-Sales Office-The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

Last week I wrote :

> Maybe the document should be "customized" for each contract. I will see if
> I can initiate actions to let people at least think about that.

Well, I have rather good news now. One of my colleagues in Cupertino who is
involved in the DART process, wrote a project already was started to provide
a new set of DART documentation (one that should really meet the customer's
needs). In the U.S. a customer survey regarding this ha been completed. The
European survey is currently underway. Results should be known within a few
weeks.

For those who exactly want to know what's on a DART CD or DAT, you can run
"/etc/update -c" to get a list of filesets on the media. For a CD you can also
have a look at the file CONTENTS.


Best regards,

Rob Slotemaker, Dutch Response Center

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp