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From: rrosen@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Randy Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Where to re-cycle used oil???
Keywords: motor oil recycling
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:32:38 GMT
Distribution: ba
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com


Being an urban environmentalist and part time auto mechanic, I have
consciencely saved all of the old, used motor oil from numerous oil
changes I have performed to my cars and motorcycle.  After a year or
so have regular maintenance, I have collected about a dozen or so
gallons of old, used motor oil stored in those 1 gallon milk containers.

Well, as you can guess, my wife is sick and tired of looking at my 
best efforts to protect the environment while ensuring cheap, yet
thorough automotive maintenance.  She has informed me to "get rid of
that old stuff!", and, thank god, she just means the oil ;-)

Anyway, where in the South SF Bay Area does one safely and cheaply
discard old, used motor oil.  My treasured collection resides near
De Anza College, so a candidate location should be close.  If it
matters to the next keeper of my collection, the oil is a mixture
of petroleum and synthetic bases, since I run petroleum based oil
in my cars and synthetic based oil in my motorcycle.

Any help that you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Randy


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From: ericb@Cadence.COM (Eric Broussard)
Subject: FOR SALE - WINDSURFER - $ 350
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:31:08 GMT

A friend of mine is selling her  Windsurfer

Highfly 350 - Nice board for beginner
Complete and is good shape.

Please, call her directly at (415) 494-7485
Ask for Anne.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: suzanne@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Suzanne McCaffrey)
Subject: Re: South City, is this a new name?
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:57:57 GMT


over the hill in pacifica, by the ocean and almost, but not quite
butting against SSF or "South City", this interesting question of
nameing got me to look thru a Times Atlas of the World, and the
only other South City is a South City Beach in Western Australia.

South City is infinitely better than South San Francisco.
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Honda Experiences (~long)
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 17:30:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.230700.12269@genghis.borland.com>
ewodzien@genghis.borland.com (Ed Wodzienski) writes:
>Anyway, after getting the good news, I decided that I didn't really trust him
>and asked for the old parts, especially the gas tank (which had a slight ding
>in it). He said that he couldn't do it because the insurance company might want
>them. (Yeah, right!). 
>
>I called him the next day and told him that the insurance company said it was
>ok to give me the old parts. (I knew I had the rights to them, I didnt call the
>insurance company) He said that management doesn't usually allow this and that
>he would do me a favor and see what he could do. (He said that he probably
>would get me the gastank).  Come on!
>
>I don't know what is going on here, but I hope everything will be ok....

Several points:

 - You're the customer.  The insurance company is paying the
   bills on your behalf, but no deal made between the repair
   shop and the insurance company is binding on you.

 - You own all the old parts and all the new parts.

 - Check over the estimate to see whether any of the parts
   prices were quoted on an "exchange" basis.  If they were,
   and you OK'd the estimate, you gave up your interest in
   those old parts.

 - State Bureau of Automotive Repairs regulations require
   repair stations to give you your old parts back if you
   request them.

 - They probably padded the estimate before giving the
   insurance company the "discount".  That's between the
   insurer and the dealer, though, except as it bears on the
   increased charges we all have to pay.

 - As Sue found out, it's illegal for the shop to charge
   you for work you didn't authorize.  The reassembly charge
   for an estimate is not justifiable.  The BAR will back
   you up for any charges you haven't specifically authorized.
   The shop should give you a written work order for any work they
   expect to be reimbursed for.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Moto Boots
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:45:15 GMT

-
     Regarding the recent discussion about boots and cowboy boots slipping
on oil, Eddie Bauer sells rubber soled cowboy boots for $129 (mens, there's
also a women's boot).  The soles have the Vibram trademark, which is the
same thing Rockport uses on their hiking boots (and Corbin on their riding
boots).  I currently make do with a pair of Rockport hiking boots, and I
find the grip on oil covered surfaces very good.

							George

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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss)
Subject: Re: Ungo box M/C alarm
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:15:39 GMT

blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins) writes:
>When I asked about other Ungo features, I meant things like shock/vibration
>sensing, ignition tampering, taillight tampering, etc....
>
>Blave

To the best of my knowledge, the Ungo only senses movement.  It will not 
detect current drain, non-vibration tampering (whatever that might be), 
proximity movement, etc.  It just senses movement, sounds the alarm,
and (for the MC2000) cuts the ignition.  A pager is optional equipment.

-- 
Ben Sloss        ben@versant.com (415) 329-7500 x172
Quote:          "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Transportation: '83 CB650SC (straight roads) '93 CBR 900RR   (twisty roads)
		'91 XR 250L (dirty    roads) '87 Mustang 5.0 (wet    roads)
From: raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cycle City (Was: Re: where to go for honda service)
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:15:03 GMT
	<ZOWIE.92Sep7211114@daedalus.stanford.edu>
	<1992Sep9.062304.2802@morrow.stanford.edu>
Reply-To: raible@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: ba
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center


[ bunch of stuff about the history and personel of Cycle City deleted ]

   > Chuck Karish writes:

   I'll be interested to hear what experiences people have with
   the new regime there.  Brian seems to be sincerely interested
   in cleaning up the operation.

I've been there three times recently.

The first time I tried swapping some electrical parts into a 85
nighthawk to attempt to fix a charging problem.  They were somewhat
helpfull, and didn't seem to mind fetching used parts from the back,
and letting me install them.  As it turns out, I couldn't find the
problem, so I left the bike there for them  to fix.  They charged me
around $28 to fix it.  [ robert - do you want to comment on this? ]

The second time, I went to buy some small stuff, and swapped in a bent
shift lever for a less bent one.  They charged me $10 for the swap.

The third time, I wanted a new shift lever and a mirror.  They charged
me $15 for the lever (which was the one I traded to them).

In summary, I find their prices fair, they are reasonably friendly,
quite helpful once you get their attention, but pretty slow.

They have an impressive inventory of used Japanese parts.  They don't
seem to mind me wandering around, checking out their bins in the back.

I like it, but they are sometimes really slow.

- Eric
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter)
Subject: Re: ysr50's, prices, etc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:15:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ca

ae@hal.COM (Andrew Essen) writes:

>so i stop by 2 yamaha dealers and they're both asking $2000(!?).

For a YSR??? For that little kitten?

Oh please, for a $2000 list, you can go to Co-Ed Honda in Milpitas and
get the bike I have, a Honda Nighthawk 250. It's about 300 pounds, so even
a little elf like me can pick it up if need be, and it's FREEWAY LEGAL,
unlike the YSR. Could even carry a pax if need be.

About all the YSR has that the Nighthawk doesn't is a "like, totally cool"
racing style fairing. I don't particularly like the missile-fairings anyway;
the Nighthawk instead has VERY accessible innards and is completely air-cooled,
making it a dream for your friendly mechanic to service.

Uggggh, $2000 for a Riva Jog engine with a racing fairing? Give me a break!

-- 
Avery Ray Colter ("Elfcat") - 	avery@netcom.netcom.com (IP 192.100.81.100)
(510) 656-1902          	{elfcat|arcolter}@aol.com
"Heaviness is the root of lightness; calmness is the controller of haste"
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu (Brian Huddleston)
Subject: Advice on Yamaha Vision
Originator: gwu@nujoizey
Reply-To: brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu
Organization: Teknekron Communications Communications, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:54:02 GMT

-
     I'm posting this for someone having trouble with his news software.
Please send replies to him, not me.

							George



Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 03:24:19 PDT
From: brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu (Brian Huddleston)
Subject: I need some help

I saw you posting a letter helping a person with getting his first bike.
I assume you know quite a bit, and I was hoping you could help me.
I wanted to post this message on ba.motorcycles and such, but the news posting 
section is contaminated by gremlins and doesnt seem to want to let me post.
I was wondering if you could help me with this question: (if you could, could you post it in the news section?)  Im getting my first bike and here's what Ive 
been looking at:

 
I just want to know if this is a good deal:
 
A friend of mine is offering:
 
82 Yamaha Vision 550
Great condition
with
        Saddle bags (nylon)
        helmet
        tank bag
        lock
        ferring
        
It has 30k logged on the road
gets about 30mpg (he says that he can get 150 to a tank)
Tank is about 4g
Back tire new
Front tire (most likely to be changed first)
seat starting to crack.
 
And he'll give me a deal for about $900
 
Is it worth taking, this will be my first bike.
 
Either post here or (if you can) reply to: brian@ccnext.ucsf.edu
thanks...

It also needs a tune up.


Thanks for your help.

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Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc. | (510) 649-3700
2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA, 94704  | Never be the first to believe . . .
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: Re: where to go for yamaha service
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:46:28 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep10.184927.25688@sco.com> brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet) writes:
>Anyone have any experience with the new service staff and Yamaha Country
>on 13 st in San Jose?   They have changed service depts a lot, and this has 
>me a tad bit worried.   Last time was about 3 months ago.
>
Morris Jones (mojo@caere.com) posted recently that Motors West was sold,
and that Charlie, the service manager of Motors West was gone.  I called
Grand Prix, who used to be associated with Motors West and asked, and
they told me that Charlie is now at Yamaha Country. 

Charlie has been working on my bike for the past few years, and I've had
no complaints with his operation.  I'm going to give Yamaha Country a
try on that basis. 
						-edg
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P. O. Box 28618		| Work: +1 408 764 5305 | DoD#: 0357
San Jose, CA  95159	| Fax:  +1 408 764 5003 | KM6CG (ex WB2GOH) 
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Subject: Re: Ungo box M/C alarm
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:22:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba

When I asked about other Ungo features, I meant things like shock/vibration
sensing, ignition tampering, taillight tampering, etc....

Blave
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Subject: Re: Ride to AFM sunday morning -- details
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:34:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba

OK, I'm confused.  I could have sworn I heard "Saturday" as the day for
the races at Sears.  Is there racing on both Sat. and Sun. or is my
hearing even worse than I thought?


HUH? you'll have to speak up...


Blave.
From: dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Cook)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Parking on the sidewalk?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 04:14:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <l2qnrqd.dmatejka@netcom.com> dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
>>I've seen a few bikes parked on the sidewalks here too. I know that
>>parking on the street I need to put the back tire against the curb,
>>but are there any guide lines about sidewalks? Seems a good idea if
>>there's room....
>
>  Anyway, the [nice] lady on the phone told me that in the City,
>at least, parking on the sidewalk was strictly illegal.  You must
>park in the street, with a wheel or fender against the curb.  Apparently
>parking between cars is also a ticketable offense.  Basically, you're

It's not that parking between cars is illegal, but that you must park
3 feet from the white line between the two parking spaces... I don't know
if this is an old law or not, but here in Berkeley it's been enforced
pretty agressively recently by the parking nazis... Parking on sidewalks
in Berkeley is a no no also almost anywhere... I know of people getting 
parking tickets in front of their homes on side streets if one of the
wheels of the bike was extending over part of the city's portion of the 
sidewalk...

-uncle dan
From: sfi@public.BTR.COM (Stefan Fielding-Isaacs  sfi@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: AFM weekend
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:32:53 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM


 Good to see everyone this weekend. I think we had the
 following folks (mostly racelisters) drop by our pits
 this Sunday:

      in no particular order

        Eric Murray (let us know whether you fix that RZ)
        Treekiller Lemay ($1500 would have been a very good deal)
        Bob Light (why didn't you tell us you were racing!)
        Jay Das (yes, you're welcome to come to Portland)
        Rich Adams (GEnie correspondent, we finally meet)
        Andy Sharp (woof)
        Ben Sloss (my 900 is faster than your 400 :->)
        J. Eric Townsend (who never introduced himself and whom
                          I only suspect dropped by..)
        Peter Eccelsine (who pitted next to us)

 Thanks to all of you for coming by and saying "hi". I don't
 often make AFM weekends but when I do it's nice to see people
 I know.

 I think my pitmates (Mark Kromer and Joe Abeyta) enjoyed meeting
 all of you as well..

 cheers,
 Stef

 (apologies if I forgot to list anyone who came by or missed
  anyone coming by - I wrote all these down from memory)
From: marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us (Marco S Hyman)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Roads from SanJose to Yosemite?
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:13:18 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: MSH Software, Hayward, CA

In article <1992Sep14.223530.20298@cbfsb.cb.att.com> eajjs@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.sottile) writes:
 > 
 > The road in San Jose through Mt Hamilton is O.K.  It is very tight
 > and windy fro the first 17 miles (Until you get Past
 > Lick Obs.).  After that, it widens a bit.  It is a long drive and
 > I wouldn't recommend ripping through there on a big bike
 > (I ride my Gold Wing through there and find that I am forever
 > scraping pegs).

I've heard this complaint from several Gold Wing riders -- are they that low
to the ground?  I haven't scraped a peg or a jug on my R80RT on that road and
make a point of doing a Mt. Hamilton run at least twice a year.  Just got to
watch out for the bicyclists on some days more than others.  (Maybe I'm going
to slow :-)

// marc
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Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss)
Subject: Re: I want...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 20:28:35 GMT

lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte) writes:
>jeff@MicroUnity.com (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:
>
>>I can think of no better machine than a Sportster - your needs, desires
>>and wallet will determine what year, but your specifications are basically
>>a dictionary definition for Sportster.
>
>Sportster, huh? What years were they made in? My budget right now
>looks like $2k. $3k if I really really push it. I'd rather start at
>$1500 and dropmy own $500 into it for modifications, tune-up, tires,
>etc.

May I suggest you look into a used Virago or Vulcan.  Both offer
good performance, reliability, looks (cruiser-style), and won't
drain your wallet like the Sportster.  On the other hand, neither
of them are Harleys...
-- 
Ben Sloss        ben@versant.com (415) 329-7500 x172
Quote:          "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Transportation: '83 CB650SC (straight roads) '93 CBR 900RR   (twisty roads)
		'91 XR 250L (dirty    roads) '87 Mustang 5.0 (wet    roads)
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:236 ba.market.vehicles:3308
From: ktmouse@cats.ucsc.edu (Sonia Marie Ortiz)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,ba.market.vehicles
Subject: Trade a camcorder for a motorcycle
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:29:21 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu





Howdy, I've got a good VHS video camcorder that I would like to trade,
or possibly sell.  It is an LXI camcorder, with a very very
goood image quality, a flying erase head, 2-lux low light, auto
focus, aperature, all that. A quartz light which fits on the top, too.
The same model sells now for about $700 new, though I paid about
$900 for it last year. It has a sturdy carrying case, and a wide angle
and telephoto lens. All cables, a battery, a power supply and recharger
too.  I have taken very good care of this camera, always kept the
heads clean, and Ive never had any problems with it. 

I would like to trade this for a street motorcycle, (no dirtbikes)
and I suppose I will consider most bikes, so I you're interested,
please let me know.


Email ktmouse@cats.ucsc.edu if you're interested.....
I can also be reached at 408-462-5389 if you choose to call me.
My name, by the way, is Caitlyn...


THanks!

-caitlyn p. mouse, esq
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From: robg@Apple.COM (Rob Griffiths)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,ba.market.vehicles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: 1989 CBR600F for sale
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:34:43 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

* * * FOR SALE * * *

   1989 Honda CBR600F

   - 14K miles, mix of backroads and highway commutes
   - Excellent condition
   - Recent valve adjustment
   - New spark plugs (Honda)
   - 45-55mpg, independent of throttle setting :-)
   - Metzeler tires (Laser front; ME55 rear)  [It's about due
     for a new rear tire; this is a negotiable item.]
   - Oil changed at 2,500 mile intervals with Golden Spectro
   - White and silver color scheme
   - Price $3,350 negotiable, including free bungee net :-)

Call me!  My '93 Goof2's in, and I need to make room in the garage!
Replies via e-mail, or contact me at work at (408) 862-2970.

-- 
Rob Griffiths    "And the future will be better tomorrow" - Dan Quayle
robg@apple.com   PP-ASEL-IA, looking for clouds .... B52s/REM/Erasure!

Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: jeff@MicroUnity.com (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey)
Subject: Re: I want...
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:48:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.055617.1909@morrow.stanford.edu>, karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep8.171555.3128@microunity.com> jeff@MicroUnity.com
|> (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey) writes:
|> >In article <42qnwlg.lamorte@netcom.com>, lamorte@netcom.com (R. Scott LaMorte) writes:
|> >|> I want something with *class* and
|> >|> *style*. I want BAD, not COOL.
|> >|> 
|> >|> I want something with lots of glossy black. And some chrome, doesn't
|> >|> have to be a lot. I want a straight, low handlebar position. I want
|> >|> handling, good power, and a great feel. 
|>     ^^^^^^^^
|> >|> What kind of bikes should I look into ?
|> >
|> >I can think of no better machine than a Sportster - your needs, desires
|> >and wallet will determine what year, but your specifications are basically
|> >a dictionary definition for Sportster.

|> >They are light, easy to adapt with your favorite bars, seat, tank, fairing,
|>           ^^^^^
|> 
|> Compared to what?

Nearly anything in the same displacement range.  At 470 - 480 lbs wet, it is
lighter than most liter sportbikes and only about 30 lbs over that famed
lightweight the new CBR600F2.  Note also that most of the Japanese cruisers 
are over 500 lbs. The common misconception about all Harleys
being heavy comes from the big twin models which typically start at 100 lbs
above the Sportster. Of course, as with other mods, lightening a Sportster
even more is pretty straightforward - the pipe is a good start, and wheels
can help a lot too.

To answer another question, Sportys were made from 1957 (just a few that year)
on up to the present.  The weights I gave are for the Evolution models, late
'85 and up.

tfk
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:204 rec.motorcycles:31088
From: ae@hal.COM (Andrew Essen)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: ysr50's, prices, etc.
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:27:59 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: meeth.hal.com

so, i'm moving and my new commute is about 1 mile.  i want to avoid the
"lots of short trips so your motor never warms up and dies a premature death"
syndrome on my motorcycle.  being too lazy to bicycle to work, i come up with
the bright idea of getting a ysr50.  maybe just rationalizing getting a
ysr since i've wanted one for a long time.

so i stop by 2 yamaha dealers and they're both asking $2000(!?).
am i mistaken or did 1991 ysr50's with 1 year of insurance list for
about $1800?  what's going on here, i thought they were selling for <$1400
last year?  do the '92's have a titanium rod? are any dealers around here (ca)
having sales?  even used ysr's seemed a bit expensive.

besides scooting to work, i'd really like to scoot around a go kart track
or something.  does anybody know of such a place?

thanks,
andrew essen
ae@hal.com
hal computer
campbell, ca.