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From: morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Craig Morgenstern)
Subject: phase 1 to phase 2 transition bridge
Organization: Texas Christian University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:31:33 GMT

We just installed a number of mac II's on a local subnet here (138.237.7).
We need to configure things so that these macs can access servers on the
main net (138.237.1).  After plowing through the Kinetics manuals and the 
CAP documentation, it is my understanding that I need to install uab,
configure the macs to use phase 1, and configure our Kbox to be a phase1
to phase2 transition bridge.  As you can probably tell, I have never done this
kind of thing before.  I would really appreciate hearing from someone who
has; am I on target, and can I do this (introduce phase 1 on a current
phase 2 only net) without affecting the other subnets?
Thanks in advance for any comments!

   ================== phase 2 ethertalk ===============================
	 |            138.237.1                 |                     |
	 |                                      |                     |
    sun w/ two ethernet                      Kbox (Fastpath 5)        |
    cards running CAP60                         |              other localtalk
    138.237.7                                   |              subnets w/ kboxs
	 |                                      |              and gatorboxs 
	 |                                    localtalk subnet
    subnet containing
    new mac IIs w/ ethernet
    cards

morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu  (Craig Morgenstern)
Dept of Computer Science
Texas Christian University
(817) 921-7166
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: alind@eng.clemson.edu (Alex Lind)
Subject: CAP 6.0 - authentication
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Reply-To: alind@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: Clemson University, ECE Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:12:35 GMT

I have recently downloaded and built CAP 6.0 (patch level 100) so
that the macs in our lab could share a laser printer connected to
our suns.  What I would like to do is set things up so that only
specific macs have printer access.  I built CAP with the 
"AUTHENTICATE" option, but I'm afraid I don't know enough about
appletalk (ethertalk) to make sense of the somewhat sketchy
documentation provided in "cap.auth.doc".  Could some kind soul
please explain how to set up cap.auth to do this (if it is possible
to do this)?  I should point out that lwsrv works fine for me, I
just want to be able to limit which macs it accepts connections
from.

Thanks in advance,
  Alex
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Alex Lind                               Department of Electrical
alind@eng.clemson.edu                   and Computer Engineering
jlind@hubcap.clemson.edu                   Clemson University

"Don't ever listen to me, I never do." - Dr. Who
From: peter@VIS.PSG.BHAM.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Suns Printing to localtalk Laserwriters using CAP ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:06:18 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


         We are trying to get our suns to talk to our Apple laserwriter
printers on our mac network. We don't have a TCP/IP to localtalk gateway at
present. We use a copy of Apples internet router software to connect our
ethertalk based macs to our localtalk based macs. Our Laserwriters are
connected to local talk. I think we may need to use ethertalk phase 2. The
suns are runing SunOs 4.1.1

        Will cap61 using native ether talk and the NIT interface allow us
to use our localtalk conected Laserwriters from the suns ? If so where can
I get a copy from ?

        Any help very much appreciated

                Thanks Peter



Mr P. Edgerton                  e-mail peter@vis.psg.bham.ac.uk
Computer Officer
School of Psychology
University of Birmingham
Edgbaston
Birmingham
B15 2TT
England

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Question about Apple's Internet Router
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:11:47 GMT

AIR will *NOT* provide IP services to the localtalk side.  caveat
emptor.  If that's what you want, buy a hardware router of some sort.
--
Christopher K. Davis      |       NET.INSIGHTS INTO ARTISTIC CRITICISM:
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   | ``[Y]ou don't cure bad art by locking it all up
System Administrator, EFF | in one museum, you cure it by throwing tomatoes
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   | at bad artists.'' --Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: CollinsL%nihdcrt.BITNET@cu.nih.gov
Subject: Re: ARA server for multiple remote clients?
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:49:40 GMT

In article <199209220221.AA07442@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> gtw@EXTRO.UCC.SU.OZ.AU
(Gilbert Taylor-Wood) writes:
>Garry asked
>
>>Does anybody know if there is a way to set up a central ARA server
>>which can supply access to multiple remote clients simultaneously?
>
>Cisco are working on ARA for their multiple protocol terminal server.
>a salesperson in Australia told me that it should be ready around the
>first half of next year.
>
>Rumour suggests that Apple are working on a multiple server version of 
>ARA.
>
>There are probably other companies working on ARA servers, it is an 
>obvious market niche.
>
>regards
>  Gilbert

We are beta test such a server from "another" company.  Seems great so far. 
I'll post a message when the beta test is over.

Lori Collins
National Institutes of Health
Division of Computer Research and Technology
>
>Gilbert Taylor-Wood                          gtw@arts.su.edu.AU
>Network Manager
>Faculty of Arts A14                          Ph  +61 2 692 4713
>The University of Sydney                     Fax +61 2 692 2045
>NSW 2006
>AUSTRALIA                    SysAdmin: The ghost in the machine
>
From: m.roch@reading.ac.uk (Mike Roch)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Auspex fileservers and CAP (or TOPS)
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:36:43 GMT
Organization: University of Reading CSC

Does anyone out there run CAP (or TOPS) on an Auspex fileserver? 
Are there any problems/restrictions on the way this must be set up?

Mike

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Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre,               M.Roch@Reading.ac.uk
University of Reading, Whiteknights,                   Tel: 0734 318430
Reading, RG6 2AX, UK                                   Fax: 0734 753094
From: sna@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu (Stewart N. Abramson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Novice Needs Help with CAP
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:57:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Thanks to those who responded to my earlier query concerning CAP.
I have downloaded the fully patched version and have read some of the
Doc's.  However, UNIX is like Greek to me.  Is there anyone out there
willing to help a novice?  I will need more than a "follow the README's
and post to this newsgroup with specific questions" if I am to ever
get CAP running on our Sun.

Here is our situation:
We are a small Department with some Mac's (sys 7), a Sun4 (OS
4.1.2) and some MS-DOS PC's all connected on the same ethernet.
The Sun has an apple laserwriter 2NT connected to it via a serial
connection and it is running Sun's newsprint software (some kind 
of postscript filter??).  The Sun and PC's (using PC-NFS) can 
print to it, but the Mac's can't.  We can put the printer directly
on the ethernet with a Dayna etherprint box, but then only the Mac's
can use it.  We would like everyone to be able to use the printer.

Here are my questions:
Do we need to install ALL of the CAP programs, or can we just 
install the parts (papif?) that we need to make the printer accessible
to everyone?  Which parts are those?  Should the printer be kept 
attached to the Sun with the serial connection or should we use the 
etherprint box?  How in the world does one get CAP set up?????????

Appreciate any help.
Stewart
sna@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu
Xref: sparky comp.protocols.appletalk:3559 comp.sys.mac.comm:9754
From: tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: AppleTalk 57.0.4 problems, where is NSI 1.2???
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:24:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Webster Computer Corp, Melbourne, Australia

In article <Conrad_Nobili-021092185222@nobili.harvard.edu>, Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili) writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.091330.2791@nic.csu.net>, jack@nic.csu.net wrote:
> 
> > I looked at the Network Resources file with ResEdit and discovered what
> > appears to be AppleTalk 57.0.7.  What gives?

This has been answered by Steve Bollinger already - a LocalTalk mod.

> Could someone point out a good ftp-able diagnostic tool to tell me
> AppleTalk version numbers? ...
> I grabbed something from sumex called "TattleTale App 1.4.1", but it doesn't
> report minor version numbers of AppleTalk,

According to "Inside Macintosh, Volume VI, Chapter 3", the Gestalt
call only returns ONE BYTE of AppleTalk version number, so there
may be no easy way for TattleTale (or anything else) to find out the
"minor" version numbers.

From what I can gather there's THREE different places where
AppleTalk can hide. They (MPP, XPP, ATP, ADSP) can be in ROM, a DRVR
in the System file, or in the AppleTalk "System Document". Thus
finding out from software "THE" version number of AppleTalk is not as
simple as "Get Info". Then again, neither is "Get Info".

So, if there were "any important differences" between 57 and 57.0.4,
then the latter would have been released as version 58 so you could
tell which one you had installed :-) :-).

========================
Tom Evans  tom@wcc.oz.au
Webster Computer Corp P/L, 1270 Ferntree Gully Rd Scoresby, Melbourne 3179
Victoria, Australia 61-3-764-1100  FAX ...764-1179  A.C.N. 004 818 455

Xref: sparky comp.protocols.appletalk:3562 comp.sys.mac.comm:9760
From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: AppleTalk 57.0.4 problems, where is NSI 1.2???
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 21:39:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <Conrad_Nobili-021092185222@nobili.harvard.edu> <2739@wcc.oz.au>

tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans) writes:

>According to "Inside Macintosh, Volume VI, Chapter 3", the Gestalt call
>only returns ONE BYTE of AppleTalk version number, so there may be no
>easy way for TattleTale (or anything else) to find out the "minor"
>version numbers.

Inertia precludes me from looking this up in IM myself, but if I open
GestaltDA, I see two selectors that return AT version information.

atlk returns the aforementioned byte, but atkv returns a long that looks
suspiciously like vers information; the value returned is $39048000, which
is vers-speak for 57.0.4 final 0.

___________________________________________________________________________
Stephan Somogyi                 conspiracy theorist                 MacUser
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: paulp@bu.oz.au (Paul Pyyvaara)
Subject: List of K-Star options wanted
Keywords: Kinetics Fastpath K-Star
Organization: ITS, Bond University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:46:36 GMT

If anyone has a list of what the options do when configuring a Kinetics
Fastpath could they please E-mail me a copy - the manual we have is so
old only the first 6 are specified.

Thanks,

Paul.
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 Paul Pyyvaara                                     e-mail : paulp@bu.oz.au
 Network Programmer                                Phone  : +61 075 951412
 B O N D  U N I V E R S I T Y     Gold Coast, Queensland, 4129 - Australia
From: markp@yang.earlham.edu (Mark H Pearson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Printing from Macs to ethernetted unix boxes
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:02:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Earlham Computing Centre

In article <D2150069.eq4855@macdavid.han.de> dave@macdavid.han.de (David C Long) writes:
>Subject: Re: Printing from Macs to ethernetted unix boxes
>From: dave@macdavid.han.de (David C Long)
>Date: 28 Sep 92 18:44:06 GMT


>In Regards to your letter <1992Sep24.133255.1477@colorado.edu>:
>> I have several Macs on the ethernet.  I also have an RS6000 running
>> AIX3.2 and a NeXT running NS3.0 on the ethernet.  I would like the Macs to be
>> able to print to queues on one of these machines and to mount
>> file systems from one of these machines through appleshare.

>I work for Helios Software in Hannover, and we have a non-PD solution
>to your problem, at least for RS/6000, not NeXT. 

>The question is, what is cheaper:

>a) Buy our EtherShare software (approx. $5300)

>b) buy a Fastpath and hire a full-time Unix guru to look after CAP

I have another solution which does not involve either buying (expensive) 
ethershare s/w or a Fastpath and which works on the NeXT and Sun.
We went with IPTs 'ushare' product on a NeXT server which provides very 
flexible appleshare access at a very reasonable price with good tech support.
We also purchased the printing option which allows a NeXT laser to be shared 
by Macs or a Mac Laser on Localtalk to be shared from the NeXT. I should say 
that we're using ethernet cards in all our Macs (the only sensible solution).
I am very happy with our set up - after a few initial problems it just sits 
there and works - very smooth and very fast. You can even treat your NeXT 
home directory as an Appleshare volume - great for sharing files.

I'm a NeXT fan and this s/w integrates the crummy Macs quite well and makes 
them almost useful ! :-)

BTW Information Presentation Technologies are at 
555 Chorro Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93401
(805) 541-3000
FAX: (805) 541-3037
From: woody@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Bill Woodcock)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: ARAP Information
Keywords: ARAP, Appletalk
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:58:31 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


                                            Saturday, September 26, 1992
    
          ddc@mbunix.mitre.org (Dave Couture) writes:
        > Does anyone have or know where I can get more indepth 
        > information regarding ARAP?
    
    Well, the Security Zones HyperCard stack, the API, the API docs, and
    several little sample programs are available from APDA.
    
    Aside from that, you're probalby on your own, unless you've got
    friends at Shiva or Cayman. Apple's pretty short of ARAP information,
    it seems.  :-)
      
                             -Bill Woodcock

________________________________________________________________________________
bill woodcock  woody@zocalo.com  woody@applelink.apple.com  woody@ucscb.ucsc.edu
From: MARTINHER@URVAX.URICH.EDU (HERB MARTIN)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Mac's in IP land
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


Where can I get the most information on Macs with TCP/IP and inoperability
with other IP clients and servers?  Is there a FAQ?
 
Specifically, I have MacTCP and Wollongong Pathways.  Are there other
choices?  Can I find a solution that makes a Mac and NFS server?  Can
a Mac AppleShare server be an NFS (or even an FTP server)?
 
What is the most that I can do?  What are the limitations?  What is CAP
and how do I do printing from IP clients?  Which UNIX stations have 
Appletalk stacks available?  I already have an IBM RS/6000 with Appleshare,
what else will work?  I think that Ultrix can do this too.

Are there any consultants out there in need of work?  I can't promise 
anything but I would like to have some names...
...in case I can get funds allocated.
 
Herb Martin
martinher@urvax.urich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: adam@research.nj.nec.com (Adam Porter)
Subject: CAP aufs write error! Please HELP!
Originator: adam@acapella
Reply-To: adam@research.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 16:00:30 GMT


Hi everybody...Please email me if you have seen this!

cap6.0 pl 126
Native ethertalk
Phase 2 enabled (necessary!)
SunOS 4.1.2
System7 on MacII CI

When dragging a folder of Mac stuff to a mounted, otherwise writable
CAP volume, I get:

"The folder "lpr 1.2" couldn't be written, because you do not have
enough access privileges.  Do you want to continue copying?"

If I say "Continue", this message pops up for each file:

"The file "xxx" couldn't be written, because an error of type -50
occurred.  Do you want to continue copying?"

If I keep telling it to continue, at the end I get the folder created
on the volume, but EMPTY.


Any help would be appreciated!  MANY THANKS!

-- 
--								-Adam
==========================================================================
Adam Porter, Assistant System Administrator       adam@research.nj.nec.com  
NEC Research Institute:609/951-2568  4 Independence Way,Princeton,NJ,08540
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: webster@bnr.ca (Brent Webster)
Subject: AUFS: stacked files/folders
Reply-To: webster@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:17:10 GMT

History:
I've compiled and I'm executing CAP6.0 patchlevel 126 on my Sparc2 under
SunOS 4.1.1.  I've setup a hierarchy of read-only folders to act as
a file cabinet for our discussion papers. At the top level, there is
also a read-write dropbox folder with all the read-only directories 
cloned in it.  A user drags a discussion paper, usually a Framemaker
document, into the appropriate dropbox sub-folder.  A UNIX cron job
periodically monitors the dropbox.  If it detects a file, it does
some security checks and document setup then moves it into the 
appropriate read-only directory.

Problem:
All the .finderinfo and .resource directories are empty.  I mount this
file cabinet volume on my Mac and drag a document into a dropbox 
subfolder/directory.  I can close and reopen the folder with no 
problems.  If a dismount and remount the volume then open the 
appropriate dropbox subfolder, all the files and/or folders are
stacked one on top of the other.  If I dismount the volume and 
deleted all the .finderinfo and .resource files then remount the
volume, everything is OK.

Any comments or solutions,
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:10:13 GMT
Organization: The Internet


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From: bob@sna.co.umist.ac.uk (Bob Nutter)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Bridging Ethertalk onto a local network
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:59:25 GMT
Organization: UMIST Computation, PO Box 88, Manchester, UK

Hi,

I'm trying to get an ethernet bridge (3com Netbuilder, actually) to sit across
our local ethernet and the campus backbone. All I want it to do is to pass
AppleTalk packets and nothing else to/from the local machines, including a Webster
MPG, so that the various zones can be seen from both sides. I've configured the
bridge to only pass packets with a header type (byte 0xC) of 0x809B (from Apple's
"Network System Overview" book), but I can't see any of the zones from the
"other" side. Am I missing something obvious here or what? Are there more header
types that I need to pass? Any help at all would be extremely useful, and I'll
summarise, etc, etc.  A sort of diagram of the net topology is shown below, the
Suns passing only TCP packets, of course, the 3com only 0x809B:


campus backbone ----------------------------------------------------
			|	|		|
		      Sun      Sun	      3com
			|	|		|
local ether---------------------------------------------------------
					|
				     Webster
				     | | | |
				     LocalTalk
 

bob
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From: westgate@LMIG.COM (Greg Westgate)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: RE: ARAP Servers
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:26:35 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

We have heard of several alternatives in the works to the one on one ARAP 
servers. You might want to contact Shiva, Cayman, Novell and Apple. All 
either have current solutions or will soon. Some of them work very well. 

Greg Westgate
westgate@lmig.com
From: Richard.E.Brown@dartmouth.edu (Richard E. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Fast DDP Checksum code?
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:33:33 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Folks:

Several months back, someone on this group asserted that they had
re-coded the DDP checksum algorithm to reduce it from 3-4 msec on a Mac
Plus to well under a millisecond. 

Of course, I wasn't thinking about speeding up this code when that
posting went out... Would the poster be willing to re-post the code? 
Many thanks.

Rich Brown                    E-Mail: richard.e.brown@dartmouth.edu
Manager of Special Projects   AppleLink address:  A0183
Dartmouth College             Telephone: 603/646-3648
Kiewit Computer Center        Fax: 603/646-2810
Hanover, NH 03755-3523 USA         
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: subraman@andy.bgsu.edu (ANAND)
Subject: LaunchBreak and AppleShare FileServer
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:48:17 GMT

Dear netters,

	First, let me explain the situation I got here. Currently I'm 
running AppleShare 3.0 along with LaunchBreak 1.0.5. We have 30 Macs
and 2 PS/2s sharing the network along with the PrintServers and LaserWriter.
We were the only lab in the zone. Recently, we added one more lab which is the
same setup on this zone. These two labs are located in different locations
physically. One gator box is used per zone. 
	According to the LaunchBreak documentation, we cannot have to caterer
in the same zone and I personally experienced it in the past when I tried to
bring up another caterer while there was one already up running. But, for
some reason, we got both caterer up running in both lab without any problem.
I'm suspecting that could be due to the bridge. Is it possible? Is launchbreak
may not be able to see through the bridge?
	Before we added the second lab on the same zone, I didn't have much
problem with the caterer. Especially, when two people are trying to access
to a software at the same time. But, now after the other lab been added to
the zone, I'm getting this "LaunchBreak caterer couldn't be located"
message constantly. It takes forevre for students to run an application.
It doesn't like more than one person accessing at the same time.
	Now, after one week facing this trouble, I decided to take my lab
of the campus backbone and decide to run the network in the lab without
the other lab on the zone. Guess what? I don't get the message anymore.
	Now, my questions are, is there any solution for this problems? OR	
is it the Launch break problem? Why the first caterer been brought up not 
recognizing the other caterer? 
	Any help in this matter will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.


Geeva
University Computer Services
Bowling Green State University


By the way, can someone give a brief explanation about the differents between
a postcript file with any other file?