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From: patti@hosehead.intel.com (Patti Beadles)
Subject: Re: (M)(R) Back up power for reef tank?
Originator: patti@hosehead
Organization: Intel Corporation, Hillsboro, OR
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:33:00 GMT

In article <tom.725421956@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu> tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain) writes:
>I was recently asked what I would do with my 45 gallon reef tank in
>the event of a power outage.

My 300 gallon reef tank lost power last week.  It's unusual for us to
lose power for more than a few minutes around here, but this time it
was out for about eight hours.

When the power went out, I immediately made a mad dash for the tank to
make sure the check valves were working ... it had occurred to me just
that morning that I hadn't cleaned them in a while.  I did NOT want
wet carpet.

After that, I didn't do anything in particular, other than checking
every couple of hours to make sure everything was OK.  If you have a
relatively low fish load (as any reef tank should) you should be OK
for quite a while.  If the inhabitants start looking stressed (gasping
at the surface, for example) a good way to circulate water is to grab
a pitcher and start picking up water and pouring it back in.  This
will both agitate the surface and move water to the lower levels.

Macro algae consume oxygen when the lights are out, which would be a
consideration in a tank with heavy growths of soft-bodied algaes.  (My
understanding is that calcerous algaes photosynthesize more slowly,
but I can't point at specific references to back that up.)

If you have a LONG power outage, temperature drops might be a problem.
Use whatever you can (styrofoam, blankets, etc.) to insulate the
tank.

I'm not sure how long the batteries in those air pumps last, so I
don't know if it would be worthwhile to have one or not.  I've never
seen the need (even when I lived in St. Louis, where power outages
were more common and lasted longer.)
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: towheed@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (NSSDC, NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center)
Subject: Scott Paris Call Home
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:27:00 GMT


				SCOTT,
	
			      CALL SYED !



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The views expressed above are mine, and mine alone.  I do this with the 
understanding that the Constitution on the United States of America guarantees
this right to all within its shores.  The message was typed in my own time and
on my own free will.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syed S. Towheed >>>>>>>>
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Fresh Water mussels...
From: barton@latcs1.lat.OZ.AU (Douglas P. Barton [Hellfyre])
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:00:06 GMT
Followup-To: barton@latcs1.lat.OZ.AU
Organization: What ORGANISATION???  This mess is total chaos!!!


dear ppl,

I have a friend who has a 50g (I think) tank and is keeping some fresh
water mussels (South Eastern Australian variety, if it makes any
difference)...  The tank is very new and it is the first time either he or
anyone else I know has kept mussels in a tank...  he got them out of a
drainage dam, and each is about 3-4in long...

I am just poking around for any info anyone might have on the best way to
treat these little beauties, feeding, care, water, problems, recipes :)
etc...

thanx in advance...


-- 

Douglas Barton - barton@latcs1.oz.au

Famous Last Words:
      "Whaddya mean, a pentagram only has FIVE sides?"

or how about:
      a) "I bet without Mjolnir you're a real wuss."
      b) "He looks like a wuss to me."

or:
      "I try to move silently in plate armor..."

And your fortune for today --

If God had intended Man to Walk, He would have given him Feet.
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From: rbennet1@neumann.une.edu.au (Robert Bennetts.)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Blue Moon Reef tubes???
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:36:43 GMT
Followup-To: poster


	Hi all...


	Does anyone have any experience with Tritons new Blue Moon Reef tubes?

	Are they better or worse than Actinics?
	What sizes and wattages do they come in?
	And any other pros/cons or any info regarding them would be nice...

	Thanks very much...


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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: maz@Turing.ORG (Michael A. Zang)
Subject: Help:Need advice for sick saltwater fish
Summary: Sick maroon clown	
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:32:22 GMT

	Hope someone can help, I recently bought a Maroon Clown who
has started to develop white dots on it's skin. These appear to be parasites
but are still too small to tell. I've got experience with freshwater
diseases ans parasites but this is my first time with salt-water problems.
The clown is in a well established tank 10months, so I'm the process of
setting up an isolation tank. Any advice is very welcome .

			Thanks from a saltwater newbie.
					Mike

Note: Due to cencorship at academic computing an the University of Virginia
      Turing.Org has been ordered to be removed from the net. If you can't
      reach me please mail me at maz6r@livia.acs.virginia.edu.


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From: cowan@cerianthus.pinetree.org (Darin Cowan)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Too many fish... :(
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 04:31:29 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

krogers@javelin.sim.es.com (K. Rogers) writes:

> farmwald@netcom.com (Mike Farmwald) writes:
> 
> >I've sold >200 black mollies to local aquarium store. They want 1.5"
> >or greater & pay $0.25 - $0.50 each. They breed like mad, and this
> >seems to be the only humane way to keep my tank population down.
> 
> I don't want to ruin your day but the fish you sold/gave to the store
> were likely used as food for other fish as soon as you left.  Perhaps
> not, but most stores don't fiddle around with the hordes of mollies
> and guppies given to them and they make nutritious free food.
> 

Baby guppies and mollies are referred to as "angelfish food" or
"hawkfish food" around here, depending on which aquarium is being referred to
:-)



Darin Cowan - cowan@cerianthus.pinetree.org
From: bownes@crd.ge.com (Keptin Komrade Dr. Bobwrench III)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Sacrificial fish reccomendation sought
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:15:47 GMT
Reply-To: bownes@crd.ge.com
Organization: School of Corrective Phrenology

Well, I set up the marine aquarium this week and need to go out and get a couple
of hearty, cheap critters to get it started. Anyone got any decent reccomendations
on what to get/avoid, or should I just go out and get half a dozen damsels and
an anemone and toss 'em in? 

And how heavily should I aerate such a tank?

Facts:	35 gal long marine aqu. Freshly set up, good ph, SG 1.020 +/-.001.

---
Bob Bownes, aka iii "The only way I know where the train will go is when I'm 
sleeping on the tracks" -M. Etheridge
Warning: This may contain opinions. They belong to me, not to Aule-Tek, 
Sun Microsystems, General Electric or anyone else. But you can rent them. 
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: lee@ace.npac.syr.edu (Lee C. Brink)
Subject: Re: Crayfish
In-reply-to: edens-a@rice.edu's message of Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:24:36 GMT
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center - Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:54:20 EST

>>>>> On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:24:36 GMT, edens-a@rice.edu (John C. Edens) said:

John> Does anyone out there know how crayfish should be kept?
John> <Besides in gumbo>

Ah.  One of my favorite creatures.  Here is my list of "ingredients" for
freshwater crayfish:


	1) Unheated water - They are a temperate water fish, and like it
		between 60 degrees & 70 degrees Farenheiht.  They can
		survive in warmer temperatures, but the above
		temps are where they'll feel at home.

	2) Rocks & Caves - Crayfish like to hide in caves and under rocks.
		Supply them with quite a few.

	3) Any type of food - If they can catch it, they will eat it.  Live
		food, to flake, to pellet, to mulm (From best to worst).
		But they are extremely hardy, and will eat what they can
		get.


Some notes on crayfish behavior:


	1) Territorial - These creatures (When not spawning) will try
		and kill each other if not enough room is not given.
		Even if enough room is given, they will try to eat each
		other if they cross each other's path.

	2) Obnoxious - Anything else in the tank will be view by them
		as food.  I had one crayfish let an Oscar have it.  They
		are fearless and will clamp down if no retreat is possible.
		They will also try to climb out of the tank.  For several
		weeks I had crayfish "greet" me when I got out of the shower.
		Certainly different.

	3) Molting - Crayfish will molt; 4+ times/year for young ones,
		1-2/year for older ones.  They need the shell after they molt,
		and they will not be seen for several days after they do molt.


Any more questions, just ask.

  Lee



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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: bhaskar@brtph181.bnr.ca (Shaji Bhaskar)
Subject: Re: Keeping plants alive.... how?!?
Organization: BNR Inc., Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:12:00 GMT

In article <15252.2b3f56b9@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> rudin@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>HI!
>
>I have a question about keeping store-bought plants alive in
>fresh water aquariums. Mine always seem to die. What do I need?
>More light? More of some chemical? Any help would be aprreciated!

You have not provided any information on your setup, so it is hard to
say.  If you post more specific information on how the plants die and
what your tank conditions are, folks on the net may be able to provide
more help.  You may also want to refer to the FAQ on plants, available
by anonymous ftp from jerico.usc.edu.  Look in pub/aquaria.  Anyway,
here is a checklist off the top of my head.

1. Lighting - you need about 2 Watts per gallon for most tanks.  Get
fluorescent lighting meant for plants.  GE full spectrum lights are
available in many hardware stores, and should be adequate to start with.

2. Inadequate nutrients - you can get many plant foods on the market.
The consensus on this network seems to be that with fish present, you
only need trace elements and possibly laterite in the gravel.  With an
already set-up tank, it is too late anyway to consider many other
substrate nutrients.

3. Water conditions - most plants like moderately soft water with a pH
from about 6.5 to about 7.5, and temperatures in the 70s (F).

4. The plants themselves - some are easier to keep (Egeria aka Elodea
aka Anacharis, Vallisneria, many Sword plants) than others.  Many that
are sold as aquarium plants are actually land plants.

5. Too many fish - usually results in algae growth that covers the
plants.

6. Fish that distrub the gravel / eat the plants.  Snails that eat the
plants.

-Shaji.
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Shaji Bhaskar     BNR, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709     (bhaskar@bnr.ca)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: OUTDOOR PONDS
From: jemille@eis.calstate.edu (Jeffrey d Miller)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 03:28:39 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Keeping plants alive.... how?!?
From: jemille@eis.calstate.edu (Jeffrey d Miller)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 03:25:37 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: jimh@ultra.com (Jim Hurley)
Subject: Re: (M)(R) Back up power for reef tank?
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 22:07:41 GMT

In <1992Dec30.215925.8005@ultra.com> jimh@ultra.com (Jim Hurley) writes:

-->In <1992Dec30.183440.25656@sx.mont.nec.com> ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan) writes:

-->[...]
-->-->-  Of course, you can't bring you car into the house, so you will 
-->-->   need to have a car battery at you disposal.
-->[...]

-->Two 6 volt lantern batteries in series would be more convenient
-->and would probably last quite a while.
-->-- 
-->Jim Hurley --> jimh@ultra.com  ...!ames!ultra!jimh  (408) 922-0100
-->Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Daggett Drive / San Jose CA 95134

OOPS!! - Reflecting for a moment, they might not last all that long,
since the current ratio is 10 to 1. Even a small pump of a few
watts might drain these batteries rather quickly...
-- 
Jim Hurley --> jimh@ultra.com  ...!ames!ultra!jimh  (408) 922-0100
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Daggett Drive / San Jose CA 95134
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From: janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet Rawlins) 
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: FORMER COMPLETE BEGINNER
Date: 24 Dec 92 16:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: janet.rawlins@the-matrix.com (Janet Rawlins) 

-> 5) Are female bettas radically less finned than the males? Could a
-> female betta look like an orange sunburst plattie (which I'm
-> beginning to suspect my alleged "betta" is) as my dealer says?

First of all, I'm glad you're reading up on aquariums.  From the sound
of things, you may well know more than the person in the petstore!  To
answer the question about the betta, a female betta will have less
extravagant finnage than the male, but the shape of her body will be the
same as the male's.  She definitely would not look like a sunburst
platy. A platy has a rounder shorter body, while bettas have longer
bodies.

-> 7) Several people have suggested I vacuum my gravel. My dealer has
-> not heard of this. How should I do this? Is it really necessary?

It's just a cylinder about 2 inches in diameter, with a tube attached
thru which you siphon water out of the tank into a bucket. But instead
of just slurping water, you push the cylinder down into the gravel while
holding your thumb over the bottom of the hose. When you release your
thumb, you'll see grunge coming up the siphon out of the gravel. You
repeat this process over and over, a few seconds for each time you stick
it into a different location, until you've "vacuumed" a fair part of the
fishdroppings out of your gravel.  This will take a little practice, but
soon you'll get to where you can vacuum a LOT of gravel without
siphoning off more than a couple of gallons of water.  This also
accomplishes another good goal: a partial water change -- because you
then have to pour some fresh (dechlorinated) water into the tank to
replace what you siphoned out along with the grunge.  Finally, don't
just pour that "fishy" water down the drain. Pour it around your shrubs
outdoors!  They'll love you for it.  It's a great fertilizer.
    I'll defer the rest of your questions to the experts on here, who
can give you much better answers on things like cycling and nitrates and
such.

Janet Rawlins
                                                                            
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: Jack.Honeycutt@f52.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Honeycutt)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: OUTDOOR PONDS
Date: 3 Jan 93 12:43:10 GMT

Hello Oleg!

03 Jan 93, Oleg Kiselev writes to All:

 >> million color, 1024 X 768, 400DPI pond .gif's.  A friend of mine made
them
 >> for me. Callers at 2400 can spend 1/2 hr down loading one .gif file! 
But,
 >> if you can call in at 14.4K (v.32 bis) you can grab one in about 4
 >> minutes.

 OK> You can post these gifs to alt.binaries.pictures or whatever the
 OK> appropriatae alt.binaries group is.  If you do post, please announce it
 OK> here.  I, for one, would like to use a lily as my screen background.

I am just going to have to figure how this alt.binaries.pictures works.  I
have read about it for quite some time now, and it is time to learn more.  I
will request that news group for my system, and see if I can figure out how it
works.

Thanks for the feedback.

Jack
From: Jack.Honeycutt@f52.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Honeycutt)
Sender: postmaster@therose.pdx.com
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: OUTDOOR PONDS
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 06:11:30 -0700

Hello Howard!

02 Jan 93, Howard Rebel writes to All:

 HR> Your article's text didn't post.

Yea, I was looking at that too Howard.  Wish he would have.  I love to talk
ponds...

My ponds up here in Portland Oregon are all covered with snow.  I did bring in
some marsh maragolds and they are in a bucket under a plant light.  Don't look
to well.

I spend all my time in the winter as the SYSOP of The Garden Pond BBS, a BBS
for people with back yard ponds.  I am a member of the International Water
Lily Society and The Aquatic Gardeners Association.

Any other IWLS members out there??

I have pond files and a pond message area.  Just got some high-res 16.8
million color, 1024 X 768, 400DPI pond .gif's.  A friend of mine made them for
me. Callers at 2400 can spend 1/2 hr down loading one .gif file!  But, if you
can call in at 14.4K (v.32 bis) you can grab one in about 4 minutes.

All are welcome at The 'Pond (a free BBS). 1-(503) 735-3074, Fido 1:105/52.

Jack

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,purdue.student-org.aquaria
From: bhaskar@brtph181.bnr.ca (Shaji Bhaskar)
Subject: Re: Question about 5 gal water(f) tank design
Keywords: bottom light
Organization: BNR Inc. RTP, NC
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:27:28 GMT

In article <C00A3u.8o9@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Blum) writes:

>I received a 5 gal. hexagonal tank for Christmas.  It has a strange feature
>(from what little I know about aquariums)---the light is in the BOTTOM of
>the tank!

>I was thinking of placing two Platys in the tank, but I'm curious---am I
>going to have to install a top light instead of the bottom one?

Fish ARE affected by the direction of light - especially when there is
a single weak source. They seem to think that the light comes from
"above", and orient themselves accordingly.  

Let us know if your platies decide to swim upside-down.  Will the
"upside-down catfish" (Synodontis species) discover the error of its
ways in your tank?  How about synodontis fry (which swim normally)? :-)

But honestly, if you have a bright enough light, or other sources of
light in the room, I don't think you will have serious problems in a
fish-only tank.

-Shaji.
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: bever@csd630a.erim.org (Dave Beverstock)
Subject: Re: (M)(R) Back up power for reef tank?
In-reply-to: patti@hosehead.intel.com's message of Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:33:00 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:03:50

My battery powered air pump lasts at least 12 hours on one new D cell
battery, that's as long as I have had to use it....

dave
--
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Environmental Research Institute of Michigan (ERIM)
P.O. Box 134001  Ann Arbor, MI  48113-4001 313-994-1200 x2239
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From: PLai@cup.portal.com (Patrick L Faith)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Review: WDF 3000 wet/dry power filter
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:10:24 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

ooopps ... I mean't biowheel ... not powerwheel ... 

Now the comment about biowheels not working great ... well ...
I've never had a biowheel turn continuously for over a year.  Quit
amazed that two people have had biowheels work well ... don't have
any idea except I do very little maintanence ... have hard water ...
and poor a lot of lot on the tank ... but my experience with the
biowheels is/was very common ... i thought ( perhaps "not").

The wet/dry medium (sponge) is a bit irritating ... when you buy something
and imediately have to start tweeking it to work correctly (i.e. change
the wet/dry medium).  That's why my skilter 250 has been turned into
a standard powerfilter (messing with the air flow just got boring).

hmmmm ... i wounder if i can talk in complete sentences without making
a spelling mistake ... nawww ... one of these years I'm going to stop
using line editors and figure out how to edit a previous line/word without









deleting everything .... nawww

PLai
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From: drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Review: WDF 3000 wet/dry power filter
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:03:53 GMT
Reply-To: drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin)
Followup-To: alt.aquaria
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <72068@cup.portal.com> PLai@cup.portal.com (Patrick L Faith) writes:
>Review: Second Nature WDF 3000 Wet/Dry Power Filter
>
>Pluses: this has to better than Marinelands powerwheel.
>Minuses: what doesn't work better than the powerwheel.

I would like to hear more about the difficulties you've had with the bio-
wheel gadget (powerwheel?). So far, I am a satisfied user.

I have had a 10g SW tank set up as a hospital for over a year. I chose the
biowheel because I wanted an easily maintainable filter with no substrate.
The intended use of the tank was to rest and medicate, and I believe in
prompt removal of medication at the end of the dose period. Also, the tank
usually has some level of copper in it. 

The filter normally runs with the blue filter pad, but I frequently replace
this with a charcoal bag when I need to extract medication. Debris buildup
is obvious and easily removed due to no substrate.

For some unknown reason, the wheel was very slow to cycle. But once established,that thing really sucked up ammonia and nitrite. The cycling levels fell to 
zero faster than any tank I've started. I've had no measureable levels since,
even when the tank was temporarily overpopulated. Post-medication spikes 
have been few, low-amplitude, and brief, but I am careful about not leaving
the stuff in the water.

I maintain an extra wheel and a bag of biochem beads in my main tank to move
to the penguin in case I ever destroyed the filter bacteria through medication.
But, I have never had to use them. 

This silly-looking little gadget (110 size) is my *only* biological filter,
and I have never had the wheel become clogged or stop rotating or even slow
down. You do have to be careful that no interference occurs from charcoal
bags, drawstrings, etc. It has completely met my objectives for this 
application.




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