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From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:26:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>>
>>[OK you know how much I hate the Tempo by now. :-)]
>>

I disagree only when the poster say Tempo is bad, but Taura's is good.
The former is 4 cylinder, the later is 6 cylinder if I am correct.  I
have owned a few cars, all of them 4 cylinder.  I think Tempo is a good
choice if China have to buy American cars at all.  It surely cost less
and more efficient on gas. 

When I lived in Delaware, my landlord is GM worker.  All different cars
use the exactly same engine.  If you say Tempo is out-dated, why the
other cars designed by the same company is good?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:02:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.063950.23650@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>In article <1079@pga.ts.com>, pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.) writes:
>|> In article <1992Jul30.192411.20300@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>|> >
>|> >I can't say that I find it surprising that country which practically bans
>|> >sexuality and whose citizens have hardly any contact with the outside world
>|> >isn't bringing AIDs to the olympics.
>|> >
>|> >I think we should admire the absence of HIV in the Communist Chinese Olympic
>|> >team. We should also note that some of the measures taken to prevent HIV are
>|> >done on a voluntary basis. After all, we Americans don't have the courage to
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> >drown all of our female children. This voluntary action by Chineese parents
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> >should be parised. Why, in a few decades, there will hardly be any women left,
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> >thus dramatically cutting down on sex, thus preventing one of the primary
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> >routes for the spread of aids.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> 
>|> I have never thought that I would defend Chinese morality.:-) :-)
>|> 
>|> However this piece of post make me decide to say something. Although
>|> Mr Chunde Shi certainly owes an apology to Magic Johnson and
>|> American Olympic team for saying his highly insensitive and
>|> completely stupid words about HIV, (as he always did in this net,)
>|> you, Mr. Jason W. Solinsky, owes an apology to all Chinese parents.
>
>I reserve the right to return any absolutely notionalistic flame with an
>equally nationalistic and disgusting flame. A post like the one I responded
>to is begging me flame back. The standards of decency one is held to is
>determined by his her surroundings. I would say that I matched the context
>with that one. People who get offended by flames should know better
>than to read followups to wildly flamming posts like the original.
>
>Jason W. Solinsky

  I understand that the nationalism leads us nowhere. But let's think 
about it in this way. If I HAD SAID that "American Women are lazier than 
Asian women," what would be the reactions from the innocent american 
women?

  Your above underline statements are outragious insultance to all the 
hudreds of millions of chinese parents, thus to US. No doubt about it. 
Before you were so sure about the situation, you should have had done 
some researchs for this BIG claim. If you have not much experience about
China, close your mouth a little bit. Don't allow informed people laugh
at you. 

  I couldn't control my feeling, as I did, and jump out here, after you 
even dared to defend for your misleading misinformation.
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: A Dirty War (Was Re: No Dogs or Chineses)
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:27:25 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

    In article <1992Jul22.234050.5549@ulowell.ulowell.edu> (22 Jul 92)
Chunde Shi writes,

> 2. Another objective [of 1979 Sino-Vietnam Border War] was to stop Vietnam
> abuse ethnic Chinese, which resulted around 300,000 refugees fled to China
> alone.

    You'd better expand your source of information beyond the scope of your
trusted People's Daily.  Do you know the Khmer Rouge had wiped out the ethnic
Chinese in Cambodia?  A great part of refugees were actually from Cambodia.
(By the way, where this number 300,000 comes from?  People's Daily?  :-)
But have you ever seen CCP say anything to protest it?  CCP is still the
best friend of the Khmer Rouge, isn't it?

    The objective of this dirty war is to rescue the murderous Khmer Rouge.
To CCP's dismay, Vietnam didn't bother to move its army to the north.  Stop
abuse of ethnic Chinese?  Can any informed netter tell me even a single event
in which the lives of overseas Chinese were weighted in CCP's foreign policy?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yzhang@math15.math.umbc.edu (Yin Zhang)
Subject: Pictures of Zhuang Yong and Fu Mingxia
Summary: They can smile!
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:54:46 GMT

In July 27 and 28 issues, Would Journal published some pictures of
Chinese athletes, including those of Zhuang Yong and Fu Mingxia.
Here are some of my observations:

1)   Anybody with eyes can tell if Zhuang Yong is a real woman or 
like a man as some asserted.  I don't want to insult netters' 
intelligence.

2) One picture shows a overjoyed Zhuang Yong laughing and hugging with
a teammate after winning the race.  Another shows that Fu Mingxia
smiled like a flower after receiving her medal.  

Well, the Chinese girls may not have shown much emotions in public
during the competions (why should they?), but they sure are capable of
laughing and smiling a lot, or maybe they just have been "westernized"
too according to the logic of the NBC diving commentator.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yidao@cae.wisc.edu (Yidao Cai)
Subject: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang won gold medal           
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:53:15 CDT

*******  From SCC ********    
Yong Zhuang of China upset world record holder Jenny Thompson of the
U.S. Sunday to win the gold medal in the women's 100-meter freestyle
swimming competition at the Olympics in Barcelona.
******* end ********	
I was surprised to see a big photo of Zhuang Yong and Le Jingyi in
today's Chicago Tribune, even bigger than that of Nelson Diebel, the american's
first gold medalist.  But after I read the article, I know why.  Here it is:

	"Both Zhuang and Lin (Li, netter) are large, muscular swimmers with 
deep vioces and acne on their backs, characteristics of steroid abuse."

So it is obvious what they mean is that the gold and silver medals are due to
the drugs ! 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Subject: Re: Life (was Re: Recent Research)
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee
Date: 27 Jul 1992 03:32:11 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.2.711748078.jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu> jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou) writes:
>
>Chiang Kai-shek apparently did, he said:
>
>     Sheng1Ming4[life] De0 Mu4Di4[goal] Zai4 Chuang4Zao4[create]
>	Yu3Zhou4[world] Ji4Qi3[continuously arising] De0
>	Sheng1Ming4[life]
>      (The purpose of life is to continue the lives in the world.)
>
>     Sheng1Ming4[Life] De0 Yi4Yi4[meaning] Zai4
>	Zeng1Jin4[improve] Ren2Lei4[people] Quan2Ti3[all] De0
>	Sheng1Huo2[living standard]
>      (The meaning of life is to improve the quality of lives of people.)
>
Are you sure they are not

	Sheng1 Ming4 De Yi4 Yi4 Zai4 ....................
	Sheng1 Huo2 De Mu4 Di4 Zai4 .....................

Chou1

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: ywh@asterix.merit.edu (Woody Huang)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Merit Network, Inc.  Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:53:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.004703.25621@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>       At least Chinese team did not carry HIV to Olympia, U.S.'s did.
>       U.S.'s gym team is as young as China's Diving Team. NBC were trying to 
>  portraying China's atheletes the way you describe! That is Americans'
>   sour_grape mentality! 

	Ignorance and prejudice are the sole contents of your sentence.  
I applauded Magic's resolution and American Olympic Association's courage
to show the world that HIV positive people ( I reject using 'patients')
are as normal as regular people, even before a cure can be found, if 
their activities post no threat to other people.
- woody
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.)
Subject: Re: Curious!
Reply-To: pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.)
Organization: Unknown
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:31:06 GMT

In article <199207202328.AA03386@thames.bu.edu> lix@bucrsb.bu.edu writes:
>Steven Leung wrote:
>>What!? I felt that, at least for the third one, it is no longer the case.
><I don't believe that many chinese women nowadays would even have a thought
><that they should CongZi (for whatever it means) when their husbands die.
>
>Agreed. The third one seems never realy enforced, not now, never. Though

I think so too. "Tian1 Yao4 Xia4 Yu3, Niang2 Yao4 Jia4 Ren2"
These are the two things Chinese thought could never be controlled.

>LiXue scholars kept talking about it. This would be an interesting topic:-)

Where is James? :-)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: IFCSS HQ Special Report 4023: IFCSS Donation Account
Date: 30 Jul 92 06:31:06 GMT


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hl2a@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Haiyan  Liu)
Subject: Re: San1 Mao2's books
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:52:28 GMT

>I would like to share my opion about San Mao's books: I don't like them
>either. I read her Sahara Desert and a couple of other books and got
>tired of them soon. IMO, San Mao is a little bit shen2 jing1 xi1 xi1
>(making fuss of nothing) (at least in her books). Her writing is
>completely woman-style (literally), 
>but different from that of another woman
>novelist Qiong2 Yao2 in Taiwan. Qiong2 Yao2's books are drugs, so to
>speak, while San Mao's books are not worse than junk.


Because you don't like their novels, you label them as junk and drug?
Or because they are women, you don't feel like to read wommen's books?
I liked and still like both San Mao's and Qiong Yao's books.  I feel
very bad that I waited on the West Lake in Hangzhou but did not meet San
Mao when she was visiting Hangzhou.  I feel very sorry that I would never
have a chance to see her.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21656 rec.sport.olympics:1942
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:13:42 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul31.003530.23854@> ywh@asterix.merit.edu (Woody Huang) writes:
>In article <fortony.712459572@murphy> fortony@sonne.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>>
>>>Maybe Litheuwan(?) will be the next.
>>
>>Lithuania, in English.
>>-- 
>>a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
>>Felix Sebastian Ortony	fortony@murphy.gis.uiuc.edu
>	
>	You think teasing foreigners' poor spelling is fun?  Most of
>the SCC netters do not possess superb English yet they try hard to

Hey, come on. You are lucky there are people care to correct your
spelling. This has nothing to do with making fun of the other guy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:26:31 GMT

In article <Bs4L6o.HK2@acsu.buffalo.edu>, lan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yan Lan) writes:

|> Hi! friends:
|>  
|> I have been watching the Olympic Games these days and very proud of Chinese 
|> Olypians. They did  great job.
|>  
|> But I am  so angry about  the local newspaper's comments on the Chinese gold
|> medalist Zhuang Yong and other Chinese swimmers. they spread rumors that 
|> Chinese girls must have taken some banned substances to enhance their perfor-
|> mances. They print a uglified picture of Zhuang Yong and herald  BULK MUSCLES
|> ...STYROID... and something like that.
|>  
|> The TV sports commentors' attitude toward Chinese swimmers,divers and gamnasts
|> also made me upset.This morning they made so much noise about a Amercian girl
|> and I thought she won the gold medal. But actually she ended up with a bronze
|> (fortunatlly!). A Japanese girl won the gold, and Chinese LIN LI won the 
|> silver.
|>  
|> What do you think?!

There is clearly something wrong with the Olympic testing procedures, but
accusing the swimmers in question of using drugs is libelous. I strongly
suspect that A) The Chinese swimmers were not on drugs. They seem to be
trying to bolster the countries international reputation in sports which
should also help their Olympic bid and if there was a single athlete that
was detected on drugs it would hurt all that It seems that China has gained
this Olympics. Additionally, If a single Chinese athlete was caught on drugs,
I would be inclined to believe that they all were, so a little bit could do
alot of damage. Also B) If the Chinese used drugs on their athletes, I think
that they would make sure that they didn't get caught. I'm sure this is
possible if you put your mind to it. In fact there are atleast two substances
which are illegal, but which the IOC has acknowledged testing procedures will
not detect.

Jason W. Solinsky
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: r1n7008@rigel.tamu.edu 
Subject: Re: FU MINGXIA place first in women's platform diving prelim!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Fu Mingxia, first , prelim
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:39:00 GMT

In article <yzhou.712203121@void>, yzhou@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Ya Zhou) writes...
>Here is the results from women's prelim platform diving (6 rounds).
>Fu Mingxia should bring China another gold metal in tomorrow's final.
> 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>                             Diving
>        Women's Platform Preliminary Round (Top 12 qualify for final)
> 1, Fu Mingxia, China, 361.770 points.
> 2, Mary Ellen Clark, USA, 329.850 points.
> 3, Elena Mirochina, Unified Team, 310.320.
> 4. MariaJose Alcala Izguerra, Mexico, 309.390.
> 5, Ellen Owen, USA, 299.520.
> 6, Zhu Jinhong, China, 297.000.
> 7, Inga Afonina, Unified Team, 293.940.
> 8, Hayley Allen, Britain, 292.770.
> 9, Veronica G. Ribot De Canales, Argentina, 292.260.
>10, April Adams, Australia, 290.730.
>11, Vyninka Rae Robyn Arlow, Australia, 289.140.
>12, Ioana Voicu, Romania, 288.870.
> 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>-- 
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>*   .signature is under construction! :-)
>*
>*--------------------------------------------------------------------------

In fact, the little girl's performance was so great that NBC commentators
mentioned that a referee started to congraduate her coach already!

I just hope and pray that she holds on and wins a gold medal! And I believe
she will!

Bob
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Olympic Anecdote
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:59:17 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

    I can hardly believe the following story.  Is it interesting?

=========================================================================

    BARCELONA, Spain (UPI) -- Showing a little too much buttock will cost
you in women's gymnastics.

    Two gymnasts from China and one from Czechoslovakia were penalized
Monday for dress-code violations during their compulsories.

    Zhang Xia and Lu Li were docked one-tenth of a point in China's team
score. Daniela Bartova of Czechoslovakia also was penalized a one-tenth,
but that penalty will be taken from her individual score because
Czechoslovakia is not entered in the team event.

    Dress-code penalties are levied for only two reasons -- immodesty or
wearing a uniform different in style or color from those of teammates.

    The penalties were levied by the International Gymnastics
Federation's Jury of Appeals, one day after the women's compulsories.
Officials did not specify the nature of the violation, but the gymnasts'
leotards apparently showed more leg than allowed.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: chiaki10@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Kwan Y Mok)
Subject: Chinese Female & Male Athletes in Olympics
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:42:02 GMT

First of all, I would like to say that so far Chinese athletes in Olympics have
been doing very well. At the end of July 29, China has already won 6 gold
medals, thus surpassing the dismal gold medal count of five in the Seoul
Olympics. 

As Tan Liangde failed to win a gold medal again in springboard diving, the
obvious phenomenon that has existed in Chinese sports is once again brought up
- female athletes performing better than their male counterparts. Of the six
gold medals so far, only one is won by a male athlete. In sports ranging from
volleyball to basketball to swimming, with the only exception of gymnastics,
Chinese female athletes either far outperform male on an international level or
are more consistent if either sex are both strong on the sport (like table
tennis, badminton and diving). Several reasons have been proposed. One being 
that the physical gap between Western and Chinese women are much smaller than 
that between Western and Chinese men. Another is that traditionally Chinese 
women have been hard workers and, as a result, are more able to handle harsh 
training and hectic schedules (therefore, Chinese men are much lazier?).

The fact is, if these major sporting events are male-only, China would have a
tough time cracking top five in the medal count. I even seriously think that
South Koreans might beat us in both Olympics and Asian games. What do you guys
think?

Given that the gap does exist between Westerners and Chinese men in physiques,
does anyone has any suggestion, good ideas on how China can shorten this gap?
How can China improve on male sports that require bulk and strength?


						-- A Person Frustrated About
						   the Lost of yet Another
						   Springboard Diving Gold
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: aco@fraser.sfu.ca (Alvin Milton Co)
Subject: Re: Metro Manila Private Schools
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:39:51 GMT

ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Susu gedeh!) writes:

>Subject: Re: Metro Manila Private High Schools, Grade Schools

>>The Same Here. - William Co
>Xavier School, Southridge, International School, Woodrose, etc.

>How about Sapang Palay Barangay High School or other
>barangay schools? 

>If only those who are rich enough to send someone to any of these
>private schools will donate a small equivalent of the tuition there
>to a barangay school..

You don't have to be *rich* to attend most of these private school!



>-----------------------------------------------------   Yo!
> Amador C. Argete                | I assume sole    / Cuddle
> ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au | responsibility  /     a
> ador@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au   | for sticking my \ Tasmanian
> (03) 348-1940; 344-7307         | foot in my mouth.\  Devil.
>-----------------------------------------------------   Oy!
From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Sinawali Seminar
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:43:54 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: 3Com Corporation





			 SINAWALI SEMINAR


	The INAYAN Martial Arts will be conducting a 1 day
	seminar in Sinawali on August 6, thursday, from 
	6-9 PM.

	The seminar will be held at 730 Camden Ave, Campbell.
	The cost of the seminar is $25.00

 Sinawali is a two-stick/weapon art of the Philippines. The term
 sinawali means to weave, and in this style you will learn as
 basics to weave a combination of strikes using 2 weapons. This
 style will teach you coordination, timing, and make both your
 arms/hands work in unison.

 Like most Filipino based weapon art, the moves can be translated
 into empty hands as well.

 Hope to see you there.

/Danny
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: cayabyab@apache.enet.dec.com (Willie Cayabyab)
Subject: Red tide
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:57:18 GMT