HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS)
Subject: Re: Cannabis smoke
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:21:15 GMT


   The toluene is in the gas phase.  I believe its vapor pressure is lower
than that of water, so my amatuer hypothesis is that when the smoke is cooled
in a bong, much of the toluene should condense (along with some of the other
nasties).
   The question must be adressed whether that is a real gain, though, since
some of the particulates with the active ingredient are also being removed
in this process. e.g. If a bong removes 50% of the toluene and 80% of the THC,
you'd be better off smoking a non-water pipe.  I don't know the answer; I 
greatly prefer a bong because I'm not fond of burning my thoat.
   In my Intro to Environmental Engineering class we have been talking about
air pollution control devices in the last week.  Whether you realize it or
not, many of the methods for cleaning air are simply huge bongs--well, they
call them water scrubbers, but the principle is the same.  Anyone who is 
seriously interested in 'purifying' cannabis smoke might try the avenue of
looking at books on air pollutions control.
    One of the problems with applying such technology to smoking is that there
is one ingredient that you DON't want removed.  When cleaning the emissions of
a coal-burning power plant, if you have a device designed to remove particulate
matter and it also happens to remove sulfur dioxide, that's great.  On the 
other hand, if your dopesmoke cleaner removes benzene and toluene, you have an
active interest in seeing that it doesn't remove THC.

    I know the smokeless cigarette has been detailed here before, but I didn't
pay much attention.  I would appreciate anyone describing how it works again.
Is the technology involved that complicated, or could a schmuck like me who
happens to be good at assembling Ronco dice-a-matics out of garbage be able
to make such a thing?

**************************************************************************
Would you mind if we balanced this glass of milk where your visiting friend
accidentally was killed? Would it be OK with you if we wrote a reminder of 
things we'll forget to do today otherwise with this green magic marker, if  
it's all right, on the back of your head? --TMBG
  ******** Tony Pulokas ****** U of Illinois / Urbana-Champaign *********#
From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: NORML Security - A Suggestion
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:39:14 -0500

Read that a NORML worker was busted and a membership list was confiscated.
Foolish oversight ! There IS a solution however ...

Simply use an old trick favored by high-priced call-girls ... make sure and
include a number of names - or at least addresses - of highly-placed members
of the community ... politicians (second or third tier), police, preachers,
bankers etc.. The cops 'great find' suddenly transforms into a 
'sensitive issue' and gets quietly buried somewhere (unless the press
somehow gets ahold of it <g>).

Alternatively, keep lots of lists ... just pick names out of the phone
books ... and be sure that only a few select people know which is the 
'real' list. 

Collections of names, like police-tips and wire-tap evidence,
rely on the expectation that most of what is seen/heard is true. By
overloading the system with bogus info - how can they possible know which
is real or even cope with the volume ? They can't. 

Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7365 talk.politics.drugs:2792
From: jasper@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Keith A French)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: WARNING ! Hot New Drug of Abuse
Date: 9 Apr 1992 00:54:06 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Oh no!!! It looks like the FBI are gonna be busy with this one.. This
drug is so widespread!!! The Government will probably spend trillions
of dollars on the 'air drug' war.  There go our taxes.. =)


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: is ephedrine a prescription only?
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:57:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.230031.4907@willamette.edu> jduncan@willamette.edu (Jack Duncan) writes:
>is just straight ephedrine available over the counter?
>***  i know that it is available in primatene tablets.  i am only
>     interested in plain ephedrine tablets.

It's not an Rx drug by federal law.  It's apparently been
made Rx-only in Washington state.  Maybe Oregon?  Dunno.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Alt.head/Leri-L
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:55:01 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Leri-l@iscsvax.uni.edu is *not* the address to email to in order to join the
Leri-L mail service.  Please email requests to moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu
instead.

Leri-L discusses metaprogramming techniques, the nature of reality and
consciousness, and the various tools (drugs among them) that allow you to
recognize and act on your discoveries.  But more importantly, we are a group of
fifty to sixty people who have every intention of becoming close *friends* as
we explore.  The computer is not a "barrier" to interpersonal communication; it
is simply another *tool* for interpersonal communication.  While the search to
expand your reality tunnel is ultimately one only you can explore, the fact
that you have strong *friends* to support you, guide you, help you, and learn
from you, is just as important as the dissemination of useful information.

No one is turned away; everyone is a wealth of experience that all of us can
learn and benefit from.  And while we certainly do discuss drugs, it does go a
bit beyond that.  And sometimes our experiences are of such a nature that it's
best we aren't a newsgroup; no one deserves to be flamed because they need to
bare themselves...:)

One last time: requests to join to moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu.   I have no
further intention of publicizing this group, simply because this newsgroup
isn't designed for me to advertise, it's designed to discuss drugs :)

Scotto
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: olson@acf9.nyu.edu (David Olson)
Subject: Re: Paul Hager -- candidate??
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:56:01 GMT

"Paul Hager" <hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> writes:

>...In other words, if I or some other HCRC member became a "legally
>qualified candidate" we could air our pro-legalization commercials
>as part of the campaign. ...


RUN, Paul, RUN!!!!

What's your 800 number for contributions?


david
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: WARNING ! Hot New Drug of Abuse
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:09:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.200727.989@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>Something of interest to us all ...
>
>A local TV station located in West Palm Beach FL. (WFLX) reported in a
>news broadcast just a couple of day ago that there was a new and dangerous
>mind-altering substance being abused by the Jr. and Sr. High school students
[...]

--- cut here ---
                                OXYGEN

Oxygen is a very toxic gas and an extreme fire hazard.  It is fatal in
concentrations of as little as 0.000001 p.p.m..  Humans exposed to
these oxygen concentrations die within a few minutes. Symptoms resemble
very much those of cyanide poisoning (blue face, ect.).  In higher
concentrations, e.g. 20%, the toxic effect is somewhat delayed and it
takes about 2.5 billion inhalations before death takes place.  The
reason for the delay is the difference in the mechanism of the toxic
effect of oxygen in 20% concentration.  It apparently contributes to a
complex process called aging, of which very little is known, except
that it is always fatal.

However, the main disadvantage of the 20% oxygen concentration is in
the fact it is habit forming.  The first inhalation (occurring at
birth) is sufficient to make oxygen addiction permanent.  After that,
any considerable decrease in the daily oxygen doses results in death
with symptoms resembling those of cyanide poisoning.

Oxygen is an extreme fire hazard.  All of the fires that were reported
in the continental U.S. for the period of the past 25 years were found
to be due to the presence of this gas in the atmosphere surrounding
the buildings in question.

Oxygen is especially dangerous because it is odorless, colorless and
tasteless, so that its presence can not be readily detected until it
is too late.

-- Originally stolen from Chemical & Engineering News February 6, 1956



Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Legality question concerning spores
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:23:55 GMT

rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>I think that technically Psilosybe (sp) spores are illegal but there is no
>real concern by the DEA beacuse they are so bloody difficult to do anything
>with if you are not a trained mycologist (I think that's what they're called)
>with a sterile lab.
 
Last time this came up someone claimed that they made the active ingredients
(psilocybin/psilocyn) illegal, thinking that this would outlaw all the 
mushrooms, etc.  And, the same person claimed that there was no active
chemical in the spores, thus they were not illegal.
 
-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)
University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
alt.drugs FTP site: milton.u.washington.edu[128.95.136.1] dir:/public/alt.drugs
               For quotes and other useless info see my .plan
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: kitsch@milton.u.washington.edu (Ted Fitch)
Subject: KETAMINE
Reply-To: kitsch@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:12:58 GMT

I just started reading this group yesterday, so forgive me if I am
bringing up a subject that has been talked about before.

My question is this:

What experiences have any of you had with Ketamine?  I am curious
about the effects of the drug.

What dose makes your body entirely catatonic?
Do you remember things afterwards?
What kind of hallucinations do you have on Ketamine?
What other drugs (Like AIR, I hear) have similar effects?
What are the side effects from using the drug.
And, finally, how long does the drug last?


Thanks,

You can e-mail me responses at <kitsch@u.washington.edu> if you wish.

Ted.
From: ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris Koenigsberg)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: kids and LSD
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:06:57 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I tried to get some weed when I was 14 1/2 but couldn't get any till I
was 15. I dropped acid at maybe 16 1/2 or 17. I first drank alcohol
when I couldn't find any weed, maybe at 16 or so.

(I'll be 34 in a couple of  now... the time period I'm referring to is
around 1973 - 1974...)

I had the highest of highs and the lowest of lows as a stoned
teenager. I'm not sure if I would recommend it or not. It would depend
on the individual and on the situation. Definitely one should try all
these things eventually, but it might be better to wait until a bit
more emotionally developed and over the hump of adolescent angst. I
had some pretty horrifying trips back then which took years to wear
off, psychologically. I am much better prepared to handle things now
(but I guess I'm also over the hill :-)

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher K. Koenigsberg : ckk1@mills.edu,ckk+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: ugrimly@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (GrImlY FiENDisH)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Kesey's back!
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:13:45 GMT

There is a Ralph Ginzburg, who was an editor of a magazine in the sixties.
I believe the magazine was "Fact."


--G

Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7626 misc.legal:9260 alt.society.civil-liberty:3440 talk.politics.drugs:2913
From: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:34:17 GMT
Reply-To: dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger)
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <1992Apr13.171817.12178@bradley.bradley.edu> 
         dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:

> Legalization would put blacks back on the bottom rung of the income ladder.

Can anyone name one black leader who supports legalization besides
Mayor Schomke? I asked this question about a year ago and no names 
surfaced.
From: Tod Mikuriya <mikuriya@igc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:40 PDT
Subject: Orange County Judge: LegalizeDrugs
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1301300138:000:668
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mikuriya    Apr 12 16:40:00 1992


Judge backs legalizing drugs
 
Santa Ana  
Oakland Tribune News Services
April 10, 1992
 
Orange County officials were quick to denounce a conservative judge
who said sales of marijuana, cocaine and heroin should be legalized
because drug laws are ineffective and expensive to enforce.
 
Orange County Superior Court Judge James P. Gray said the nation's
war on drugs had been lost, making it pointless to continue pouring
money and resources into a program that doesn't work.
 
But his suggestions drew angry comments from most county officials.
"What was this guy smoking?" asked Sheriff Brad Gates, who promised
to remind voters of the proposal come election time.
From: jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: about kava kava
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:27:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

The active substances in Kava (also kava-kava, yangonquin, 'ava,
'ava-'ava, kawa, kawa-kawa) can produce two different kinds of
effects.  With intact lactone rings, the three primary substances
(4?) (methysticin, yangonin, ?) produce the topical anaesthesia,
a stimulant effect.

When kava is emulsified (Put the root in a blender with some water
or milk and a little bit of oil and set in fridge overnight) the
dihydros- produce a saporific effect, and the narcotic sedation is
what makes it fun.  Either alot of unemulsified (minutely
emulsified)
stuff is drunk, or a few cups of the aged batch.  This will vary
however quite markedly, I should say, depending on the strain of   
kava you've purchased.  

Another note: You might want to strain the goo before you pour it!

--
jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu			Joseph A. Tucker

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Legal Cocaine? (WAS Re: Drug legalization)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:33:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.192905.19886@Cadence.COM> phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel) writes:
>As I mentioned in the portion of my post you conveniently left out -- I don't
>have the article handy.  My house is currently a topsy-turvy mess with

Hey, I wasn't perpetrating any nefarious distortion, just asking if
you might remember.  I'll look it up, but not before the weekend.

>-Pete Zakel
> (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu


From: chrisb@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Chris Bunsen)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:30:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Paneolus (sp?): a sacred manna?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: alt.drugs


Ah yes.... the good old days of shrooms. :)
Paneolus foensecii was one of the lbms (little brown mushrooms) that had
small amounts of psilocybin, but the amont varied regionally. The average dose
was 18 to 20. Be carefull, as they DO look loke some toxics, externally.
(cyanopodes??)  

Paneolus subtalteatus (sp?)  was a lovely find, also called haymower's mushroom
but was not little and was much more potent. Foensecii was generally a lawn
mushroom, and Paneolus subtaltetus was generally found in pastures of hay,
grass, and peoples basements :) Much more potent (3 to 5)). 

paneolinas look like some galerinas too!!





C Bunsen
Oregon, GODS gift to mushroom pickers!
From: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Stueven)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Bush Addicted to Invasions of Foreign
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:20:15 GMT
Reply-To: gak@gakbox.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gakbox.corp.sun.com

In article 10733@cbnewse.cb.att.com, mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson) writes:
>In article  frazier@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Frazier) writes:
>>$10 on Peru.
>I'm putting my money on Libya.

$10 on Peru to win, $10 on Libya to place,
and it will happen in September 1992.

---
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Internet:       gak@Corp.Sun.COM |----GO----| instead of your elbow.
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: fun with inhalants...NOT!
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:46:23 GMT

: >Must have been quite a bit of freon. Also, the problem would have been from
: >freezing of the tissue, not a toxic reaction. 
: 
: not to mention the fact that Freon(tm) is a flourocarbon, and therefore
: enviromentally dangerous. inhaling something that's KNOWN to damage
: the atmostphere is just plain stupid, IMHO.

Just because it was harmful to the upper atmosphere does not mean that
it is harmful to a person. 

It might be environmentally irresponsible - but then, so is driving a car.

: ps: actually, it wouldn't have to be a lot of Freon. i used to work
: in the refrigeration industry, and have had the tips of my fingers
: frozen almost-solid in about 2 seconds. Bill is probably correct
: that it would be from freezing, but isn't Freon a solvent? 

Yes, Freon is a solvent, for hydrocarbons. Not a lot of them in the
mouth of the average person.

Bill
From: brooks@ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin D Brooks)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Hempless History - Can you help?
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:59:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr6.175916.16902
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


 rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:

>Growing all over fence rows in Illinois and southern Wisconsin is, in
>the fall, some of the finest looking herb you would ever want to see.
>
> Story we got was that 
>during WWII, late, a strain was developed with little or not THC in it
>for hemp.

The same story goes for north-central Indiana.  I believe the Indiana
State Police hire students each fall to round this up and then they have
a large bonfire to dispose of it.  The public is not invited...

Kevin Brooks
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gdb43989@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg Brown )
Subject: Re: Legality question concerning spores
Keywords: mushrooms, spores, legal, legality
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:06:06 GMT

>>In article <1992Apr11.190922.4173@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> rdm31671@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Raymond D. Meredith) writes:
>>>across state lines?  I just don't understand how these companies can sell
>>>something that might be used for illegal purposes (namely the growing of
>>>psychedelic mushrooms!)

The spores do not contain psilobin, and therefore are not illegal.
From: paul@astro.umd.edu (Paul Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: questions from NY
Summary: Reaction Rates, Rule of Thumb
Keywords: chemical degradation
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:14:16 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy

As a first order approximation, chemical reaction rates are halved
for each 10 degrees Centrigrade that the temperature is lowered.
Blindly applying this rule of thumb, organics (such as LSD or pot)
stored in a freezer will last about 10 times longer than storage
at room temperature, assuming the freezer is 30 degrees cooler
than room temperature.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ah739@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leslie J. Somos)
Subject: Re: Kesey's back!
Reply-To: ah739@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leslie J. Somos)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:55:36 GMT


In a previous article, rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) says:

>A lot of people have emailed me asking who the hell Kesey is so:
>
>Pick up a copy of "The Electric Cool Aid Acid Test" by Tom Wolfe.  It
>tells the whole story.  Briefly though Ken Kesey is the man who brought
>acid to the west coast.  He was living in an old "beat" cabin complex
>near Stanford writing "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" with folks
>like Jack Kerouac and Ralph Ginsberg and Neal Cassidy coming and going
>and he needed bread so volunteered at the Palo Alto veterans hospital for
>some experiments the fed was doing with this new chemical (guess
>what) It blew his mind so he copped some while they weren't looking
>and took it back to Stanford.  The rest is history.  Read it!  Drop
>whatever you are doing and run to the nearest big bookstore. ;-)  You

                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Check out your local library first.  Then, if you don't fall in love
with the book, you've saved some money.

>will love it.  I visited his spread in La Honda a couple times in the
>mid sixties when Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead were the house
>band on weekends and based on what I saw decided to move my pregnant
>wife and new daughter out here to be part of it.  When I got here they
>were gone.  He still began the "long strange trip" for me.
>
>Bob
>-- 
>Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007
>
>"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
>                                                    Victoria Roberts
>
-- 
Leslie J. Somos
ah739@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bhunter@hardy.u.washington.edu (Brian Hunter)
Subject: Re: Asset Forfeiture and You
Followup-To: jonul@microsoft.com 
Keywords: RICO, Asset Forfeiture, Drugs, Money
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:19:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.190443.12773@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Elizabeth Kupfer) writes:
>kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse) writes:
> [i don't]
>>think the police can force a person to sign their own seized checks.
>           Well, the powers that be evidently can detain a person until he
> (oh, so graciously) agrees to give up his cash or "make a donation".  What
>would keep them from detaining someone until he agreed to sign and hand over
>that traveler check?
>
>e.k.
>--

And what would keep said detained someone from telling the occifer to
go f*ck a stump.  Personally, I would rather spend a few days in jail,
risk some bumps and bruises and keep my cash, then give in to
robbery, and say "Waaah, I was victimized by the unfair government".

I guess it's a matter of how highly you value your beliefs...

This message was posted by jonul@microsoft.com, any similarities
between Brian Hunter(or bhunter@hardy.u.washington.edu) are 
purely hallucination on your part.  And if you believe that
my newsfeed is even close to being current, you are soooorely 
mistaken.


Jon

If my employer listened to me, we would be out of business by now,
so what makes you think he'll listen to me now????
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