HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey)
Subject: Re: For M___baaz Arindam Ghosh
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:09:17 GMT

shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee) writes:



>SSM> Shono mon boli tomay shob koro prem koro na
>SSM> Prem je kathaler, aare lagle por-e chhare na.


>Luck!
>-Shubu

   Prem korechi besh korechi, Korboi to.
   Radhar moto morta hola, morboi to.

(song from the Movie "MOU-CHAK" )


Nishit


P.S  Aijo Ruchirda, tumiyo akta ketcho charo na guru         
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vembu@homes.Princeton.EDU (Sridhar Vembu)
Subject: Re: India's place in the world economy
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:09:15 GMT


  There were some netters who wanted to know how the GDP is measured
and whether it takes in to account black markets etc. I am no
economist but these are answers I have gleaned from reading the
Economist. Please correct me if I am wrong.

  The GDP of India is the total value of all goods and services produced in
the economy measured in rupees and then converted to dollars
at the prevailing exchange rates. One can immediately see that
if the exchange rate slips the dollar demominated GDP will slip,
though nothing happened to the "real" GDP! This is exactly what
has happened in the past few years an the rupee nosedived against
the dollar. All this makes the dollar per capita GDP almost a
useless measure for us.

   A better measure is the Purchasing Power Parity adjusted GDP
(this takes in to account the relative purchasing power of the
different currencies - the market exchange rate rarely
reflects this - the market rate has to do with trade balance,
budget deficits and capital flows. 

   When we use PPP, India's GDP would rise to 1000 dollars
while China's would be much higher (>2000$)(Source: Economist,
from my memory!)

   I think there is some allowance made for black markets in the
stated GDP but it is impossible to estimate 
the true size of the black market relative to the "official" economy.
Conservatively, perhaps it is a quarter of the official economy.
But the benefits of this unofficial economy are even more
skewed towards the wealthy that the official one. 

 There is a measure newly propounded by an UN organization (I forget
which one) that takes in to account, in addition to the GDP,
things like literacy, caloric intake per capita, life
expectancy etc.
In this measure there are some surprises - though not
for India. China scores better than Brazil, Mexico etc
In our neighborhood the big surprise is Sri Lanka.
Incidentally Sri Lanka also had a capitalist minded president
(Jeyawardene) much before the collapse of socialism in the
Ease Bloc. One wonders where SL would be but not for this
tragic and ultimately fruitless (for both Tamils and Sinhalese)
conflict - another Taiwan or Malaysia? 

    My attitude is one of cautious optimism: Indian govt
seems to be serious about reforms now and if we can avoid large
scale communal conflict (which again will benefit neither Hindus
nor Muslims) our future appears bright.

    Please send mail if you want to discuss any of these.
Sridhar Vembu
vembu@ee.princeton.edu   
   
   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: chakri@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Chakrapani.Avala)
Subject: Info req. on dairy based coffee creamers
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 16:48:36 GMT

Hi netters,
Sometime back I requested some suggestions on instant coffee. I rcvd. some suggestions. Thanx
a lot. Now info. is requested on coffee creamers(dairy based).  
Here , all that I could find some non-dairy creamers, with  patha nai ,kya, kya 
chemicals in it. All with frghtening names.( I really got worried after seeing the contents
lable on those non-dairy bottles). I couldn't find eqivalents to our desi stuff
like 'Everyday'(Tak!!Tak!!) or 'Sapan dairy special'(sach much special!). If you have any
idea on dairy creamers pl. let me know. Even I tried in baby foods sections for milk
powders(!kuch Faidha nahin )
I highly appreciate your suggestions. Cheers!!

Chakri.
From: rkurnool@novell.com (Ramesh Kurnool)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: JNTU ANANTAPUR ALLUMNI
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:25:28 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

I am a former student of JNTU Anantapur.  I graduated in 87 from ECE.  Long time
ago someone posted the list of all former students of JNTU Anantapur with their
addresses.  I lost that list so if someone has a list can you please email me, I
would greatly appreciate it.

thanks for your help,
Ramesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: srin@cs.cornell.edu (Aravind Srinivasan)
Subject: Thiruppaavai Verse 22
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Cornell Univ., Ithaca NY
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:42:27 GMT


I am posting this on behalf of 
Dr. K. Srinivasan (srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca).

Regards,
Aravind.

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\height=660 \width=460 \leftmargin=10 \C
\(TAMIL20) 22. raagam: Bairavi
\beginbox
am kaN maa NYaalaththu arasar abimaana
pangamaay vandhu nin paLLi(k) kattiR keezhE
sangam iruppaar pOl vandhu thalaippeydhOm
kingiNi vaay(ch) cheydha thaamarai(p) poo(p) pOlE
sengaN chiRu(ch) chiRidhE emmEl vizhiyaavO
thingaLum aadhiththanum ezhundhaaR pOl
am kaN irandum kondu engaL mEl nOkkudhiyEl
engaL mEl saabam izhindhElOr embaavaay
\endbox

\c \J
Just like (pOl) the kings (arasar) of this (kaN) beautiful (am) big (maa)
world (NYaalam), who came (vandhu) and gathered (sangam iruppaar) under
(keezhE) your (nin) sleeping (paLLi) bed (kattil), after relinquising (pangam)
their prestige (abimaanan), we have come (vandhu) and approached (eythOm) near
you (thalaippu). Please open your beautiful (kingiNi) mouth (vaay cheydha)
like (pOlE) the lotus (thaamarai) flower (poo). Will you please look
(vizhiyaavO) at us (emmEl) through those beautiful (sen) eyes (kaN) a little
(siRidhE) bit (siRu). If you look (nOkku) at us with (kondu) those (am) two
(irandum) eyes (kaN), which are like (pOl) the moon (thingaL) and the sun
(aadhiththan) rising (ezhundhaal), all the curses (saabam) on (mEl) us (engaL)
will be removed (izhindhu).
\j
From: bhargava@acsu.buffalo.edu (Alok K Bhargava.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Help in getting address
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:04:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci


I need to locate a friend in the Business School (an undergraduate) at
Indiana University, Bloomington. I have the login name  but I need the
name of the m/c where the a/c is held.  

I would appreciate getting the names of all m/cs available for a/cs in
the Business school and the names of m/cs  or systems where undergrads
can get a/cs.

Please send me mail at :
	bhargava@cs.buffalo.edu

Thanks in advance.

Alok
From: an4329@anon.penet.fi (Tera Baap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IT WAS SUPRATIC NOT MUSTAFA ,USKO LAT MARO MERE BHAIO !!
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:46:44 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian


X-Anon-To: soc.culture.indian


        Believe me guys , I am pretty sure that it was SUPRATIC

        and not MUSTAFA . He is the one who should be held responsible

        for the filth spread around in SCI .

        Listen DEB ! , Listen SAMIT !! It is none other that one of

        our responsible netters .

        THAT GUY SHOULD BE PUBLICLY INSULTED FOR THAT .

        SUPRATIC ,

                You should be ashamed of it . Never say to anyone

        that you are a Bengali or an INDIAN . NEVER !

        Throw away your Indian passport and drown yourself

        into the Pacific .

                IT IS BETTER TO HAVE A FILTHY TOUNGE LIKE MINE

        THAN A FILTHY SOUL LIKE YOURS .

                        SHIT !!!!  DISGUSTING !!!!



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From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Message from Banerjee's Sys Administrator.
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:52:38 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <1794@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:

>I am surprised to notice that this self-styled intellectual,
>Samit Banerjee, is continuing his filthy and foul language
>on the net. I am wondering as to why his sys admin has not

If any of you guys (API, Fafat, Nishit, Deb, Crick, Balaji etc) have a
copy of Nimmala's postings, can you mail me a copy? I remember there
was one in which he flamed me using a more than liberal sprinkling
of four letter words.

I did not complain to his systems administrator even after I was informed 
that he had squealed on me. I felt that I would be a reneging on my
belief in the concept of on-holds-barred freedom of expression. And a 
psycopath like Nimmala wasn't worth the effort required anyway, to 
repudiate my most basic beliefs. I had saved a copy at the time, but
ended up deleting it. I know, I shouldn't have.  Exactly the sentiments
that Nimmala's mom must have felt after she frolicked with a donkey and 
then had a chance to examine the product of her courtship :)

BTW, Aayush Asthana sent a copy to Nimmala's system's administrator as well.
If I had complained too, Nimmala would have been reprimanded. But then
being rebuked day in and day out is one of the traits that goes into the
composition of being weirdo Sreehari Nimmala. So it might not have made
a difference.

-- 
Samit Banerjee,			    |  
University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: psubbu@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Ponnuswamy Subburajan)
Subject: Re: In the wake of RamaJanmaBhoomi
Keywords: RamJanmaBhoomi, Babri
Reply-To: psubbu@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Ponnuswamy Subburajan)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:42:58 GMT

In article <C0Ev96.DHw@cs.psu.edu> narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.000919.7229@cs.wayne.edu> psubbu@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Ponnuswamy Subburajan) writes:
>>In article <C0EJrt.7As@cs.mcgill.ca> prakash@cs.mcgill.ca (Prakash Panangaden) writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan4.231908.15986@news.uiowa.edu> abdutta@icaen.uiowa.edu (Abhijit Dutta) writes:
>
>>When the rest of the
>>world is thinking about super computers and artificial intelligence, these 
>>fundamentalists are fighting for Ram Temple.  India will never improve...
>>
>>							-Subbu
>
>Ayyo! Ayyo! Ayyo! Ore level guru! Maha joku! If the rest of the world
>is thiking about artifical intelligence, we as indians should always
>wish that they should be Sarvada thinking about AI. Subbuu! oh!  Subbuuuu!
>use some natutural thinking.
>
>...kt

Hi Are you O.K?. Hope you are stable now. This is the first time I am seeing
a post from you without any reference to T.N. You have changed a lot man. If you
use NI you don't have to think about Ram.

	Happy New Year
							-Subbu
From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.india,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: World Model United Nations Conference in Prague
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:26:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan12.022642.19219
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations -- WorldMUN is a great forum for the discussion of 
current issues being debated by the United Nations today: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
conference that brings together university students and young
professionals from around the globe to siimulate the workings of the
United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
March 28, 1993, through March 31, 1993, at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
Czechoslovakia.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
Czechoslovakia.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
center.  Prague is both one of the most beautiful metropoles of Europe and
an ideal location for debating current world politics and the changing
role of the United Nations.

The Hotel diplomat is a luxury resort that offers restaurants, shops, a
night club, and fitness and spa equipment.  Delegates will stay at the
Hotel Diplomat for the reduced rate of 130DM/day double occupancy, which
includes two meals a day.

Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
Joshua A. Salomon, Secretary-General
Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-3810
UNITED STATES

Telephone:  001-617-493-6995
Fax:  001-617-493-6995

James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srmagavi@IASTATE.EDU (Sunil R Magavi)
Subject: looking for DR(MRS) SAVITHA M.S 
Reply-To: srmagavi@IASTATE.EDU (Sunil R Magavi)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:36:02 GMT

Hi,
	I'm searching the whereabouts about a very close friend.If anyone 
knows her PLEASE contact me. Maybe I can in turn do you a favour.
	She lives in Washington and probably came in July '92.She graduated
from Mysore Medical College in '92 and is married to a computer professional
in Washington.He has been here for quite sometime and his parents are Tumkur.
	Please respond if you know her.
Thanks a lot.

Sunil Magavi
email: srmagavi@iastate.edu
(515)-296-8515
From: yamaguch@canopus.usc.edu (Brian Yamaguchi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Message from Banerjee's Sys Administrator.
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:02:47 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: canopus.usc.edu

>Samit has repented.  If you see any offensive articles after 8 Dec
>92
>16:39:10 PST from him, please let us know and we will take further
>action.

A more accurate description would be that he acknowledged the unofficial
warning.  He offered no public apology.  These are excerpts from USC's
computing policies:

     Electronic mail
          Sending harassing or offensive electronic mail and/or
          sending forged electronic mail is a violation of UCS
          computing policies and will be subject to corrective action.

     USENET News
          Like electronic mail, posting articles to USENET News
          requires that the user understand that his/her posting will
          be seen by a large number of people, as many of the
          newsgroups are available throughout the world.  Repeated
          complaints from USENET subscribers regarding postings
          originating at USC will result in disciplinary action.

-- 
                                             
 Brian Yamaguchi <><, Technical Support                phone: (213) 740-2957
 University Computing Services                            uucp: usc!yamaguch
 University of Southern California                internet: yamaguch@usc.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43480 soc.culture.tamil:4990 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1622
From: shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Sneaky posts from women's net
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:44:42 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.


>>>>> In article <1im0vbINNt3o@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) quotes:


VF> "I have found through personal experience that desi males seriously lack 
VF>  in sophistication (NOT sophistry... this last seems to abound in plenty,
VF>  just read sci, if you gals don't believe me). I would'nt be unkind and 
VF>  say that they are really crude but they do come close. Take for example,
VF>  asking a woman out on a date:..."

I agree w/ you on this point.  However, some of my friends who are very
smart and fit the dream-prince image (tall, dark and handsome) tend 
to keep a safe distance from the Indian crowd. 

I am not sure who I am replying to.  But from my personal experience, I have 
found most of the Indian (as opposed to ABCD)  women around pretty
unsophisticated.  (I can think of a 1000 reasons why they are 
so.)  The point is: the case is same for both men and women and I am 
exteremely disappointed at the state of affairs.

Luck!
-Shubu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: KEEP THE NET OPEN !
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  5 JAN 93 09:12:11    


In article <1ia9qlINNr24@shelley.u.washington.edu>, shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes...
>Dear SCI netters,
> 
>Much as I have chagrined over individuals posting deliberate malicious posts
>on SCI and SCP, and SCB, that each forum be used for articles that relate to 
>their specific names, I begin to see the point in keeping the net open.
> 

	According to the significance of the word Aryan (an article which
	I posted sometimes earlier), an Aryan is one who struggles through
	logic and discussion and creates his own identity. SCI is a true
	representation of that mentality. Talking, arguing and discussing
	broadens one's outlook and understanding; makes one's belief fluid,
	and also sharpens one's brain. The opposite way simply makes one's
	beliefs more rigid and fundamentalist. That is the only difference
	between an Aryan and un-aryan. SCI is great. Those who want to
	shut us up, please got to other moderated newsgroups such as
	'soc.religion.eastern' etc.

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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From: tss@unislc.uucp (Srinivasan Thothathri)
Subject: Looking for Arunachalam!!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Summary: Looking for Arunachalam of Madurai!
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:14:23 GMT

I am Looking for one Mr Arunachalam who styed with me in Mylapore Kaplleshwar
south mada st ( Kumaradevan Mansions). He did his B.E in PSG Tech. He was 
working for BEL Madras. His father was Mr Gopala Krishnan, mgr in state bank.
I heard that Mr Aruna is doing his M.S somewhere in U.S.


Srinivasan Thothathri


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vagarwal@dis9002.shearson.com (Virendra Agarwal)
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Reply-To: vagarwal@tardis.shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:20:27 GMT

In article <1i241pINN4et@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
Path: shearson.com!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu!grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu!sunder
   From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
   Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
   Date: 1 Jan 1993 18:54:49 GMT
   Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
   Lines: 34
   Distribution: usa
   References: <1993Jan1.172015.25591@cs.umb.edu>
   NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

   From m(isc).n(ews).s(outhasia):

   |> * Indian company produces cheaper AZT
   |> 
   |> By Shishir Thadani
   |> 
   |> An Indian drug company recently announced it could produce the 
   |> AIDS-treatment drug AZT and market it at one-quarter the cost 
   |> charged to patients in the U.S. But Burroughs-Wellcome, which 
   |> produces and sells AZT in the U.S., has moved to prevent 
   |> pharmacies around the world from purchasing the Indian drug.
   |> 
   |> Burroughs-Wellcome has threatened the Indian company with a 
   |> patent-violation lawsuit. But Indian patent laws are different 
   |> from those in the U.S. Drugs cannot be patented in India; only 

   [...]

>   I wonder at the general tone the article took, which was distinctly 
>   anti-western ("... the US and its imperialist allies..."). One look 
         ^^^^^^^
	Go Ahead and appease them Mr. Sanders (I am sorry Sunder) .
	I see that you feel threatened if someone challenges your Masters.
	NOT a flame.
  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mythili@plx.com (Mythili Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: H-1 Multiple from Juarez
Organization: PLEXUS Software, a division of REI
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:45:17 GMT



Hi Netters:


Thanks to all the info I received , regarding H-1 multiple from Mexico.

I got my H-1 multiple from Ciudad Juarez.             


Mythili

(408)-743-4405 [work]
(415)-962-9807 [home]

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From: nabendu@pepper.rutgers.edu (Nabendu Bhattacharyya)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A small Bengali Poem - No Translation
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:40:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Chokher samne cheleta bodle galo.
Sukhi manusher mato teltele, bigolito hasi
Athoba atmamagno, nishpriho, darshonik mukhosh - 
Konotai jar kamya chilo na;
Jhakjhake, saral mukher, ektu swapnalu drishtir sei cheleti
Amader pratyeker buker majhe je adhkhana Iswar thaken -
Kalpurusher mato tar dike angul tule bollo -
He swargio prabhu, tumi ebaro here gele.

	- Nabendu Bhattacharyya
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:14:20 EST
From: <CXS124@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Mgmnt. Consulting in India - Need Info.!

hi.
   i am looking for as much info. as possible on the Management Consulting Cos.
in India. Cos. such as Tata Consulting Services (TCS) and like...i would like
to find out what kind of consulting they do, their size etc. etc. If someone
has any idea as to where I might be able to find this kind of info. (magazine,
other sources?), I'd really appreciate some e-mail...

thanks
shekhar
cxs124@psuvm.psu.edu