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From: alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: Cy Young Update
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:36:07 GMT

In article <randall.714091264@moose> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>
>Right now, Eckersley is the leading candidate for the Cy Young and perhaps
>MVP also.   I doubt that Appier will win 20, since he would need to
>win almost all of his remaining starts.  The A's are 49-0 in games where 
>he's appeared ...  not too shabby.
>
>
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IMHO, the MVP should be given to a position player, not to a pitcher.  I was
appalled in 1984 when Willie Hernandez won the AL Cy and the AL MVP...

You don't see any position players winning the Cy Young award, do you??

The Cy is the award for the pitchers, the MVP should be the award for the 
players...

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu

TWINS 1992--They may not win it all, but it's damn fun watching what will happen
every day...
From: jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: MLB Magic Numbers for Thu, Aug 13th, 1992
Date: 13 Aug 1992 16:55:54 GMT
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Via: JTC Enterprises Major League Baseball Department (Statistics Division)
     JTC Enterprises Sports Sector (Information Department)

        MAGIC NUMBERS OF DIVISION LEADERS FOR THURSDAY, AUGUST 13, 1992

          [NOTE: Includes all of yesterday's games; i-idle yesterday
                   z-won yesterday or split a doubleheader.]

NATIONAL WEST		 MN	        	NATIONAL EAST		 MN
Atlanta	Braves		i--		        Pittsburgh Pirates	z--
Cincinnati Reds		z48		        Montreal Expos		z46
San Diego Padres	i45		        Chicago Cubs		 40
San Francisco Giants	 35		        St. Louis Cardinals     z38
Houston Astros		z32		        New York Mets            37
Los Angeles Dodgers	 31		        Philadelphia Phillies	 31

AMERICAN WEST		 MN 		        AMERICAN EAST		 MN
Oakland Athletics	z--		        Toronto Blue Jays	 --
Minnesota Twins		 46		        Baltimore Orioles	z48
Chicago White Sox	 40		        Milwaukee Brewers	 44
Texas Rangers		z35		        Boston Red Sox           36
California Angels       z31		        Cleveland Indians       z35
Kansas City Royals       31		        Detroit Tigers           35
Seattle Mariners	z23		        New York Yankees	z35

Formula used: W=163-l-w
              where W=combination of games won by 1st place team or lost by 
                      designated team needed to eliminate designated team
                    l=games lost by designated team
                    w=games won by 1st place team
MN decreases by one for any game won by 1st place team or lost by designated
   team until it reaches 0 and designated is eliminated from division title.

For further explanation of formula, e-mail jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu. Thanks.
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From: ASKKC@ASUACAD.BITNET (Prasad Chavali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: BALTIMORE GAMES
Date: 12 Aug 92 05:04:19 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

I will be in the Baltimore or Philly area on Monday, Aug. 17, and I was wonderi
ng if there will be any home games on that night?  Does anyone know about the
two teams schedules for that day?   Thanks.

Prasad.
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Dream Team
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 06:46:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.045241.4293@news.stolaf.edu> alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.205002.24904@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug12.194834.16081@newshost.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>>>>Oops.  Guess I must be a stat-head to not see that Cone is *obviously*
>>>>the better pitcher.  More mentally stable, too (NOT!!!).
>>>
>>>	Jesus, I wouldn't exactly call Clemens mentally stable.
>>
>>Neither of them is a model of sanity, but I think Cone out-flips
>>Clemens.  Has Clemens ever gone non-linear while baserunners score
>>unchallenged?
>
>Has Cone ever been tossed from a LCS game for uttering obscenities towards the
>umpire???

Has Clemens ever publically masturbated in front of women?

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GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
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Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: hasch@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Bruce M Hasch)
Subject: Re: Phillies/Orioles Trade(Scarsone/Bell)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: scrubs, gone, yahoo 
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:20:00 GMT

In article <23509@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes...
>Juan Bell was traded to the Phillies for second baseman Steve Scarsone.
>It is good to have gotten rid of Juan. The Wash. Post says Scarsone
>is an above avg. fielder and a good hitter. He went 2 for 11 in the
>majors this year. A small sample size.  Yo, Youz guys in Philly, whats
>the deal on the Scarsone dude.
> 
Yipee! The O's finally dumped the last remnant from the Murray trade
debacle.  I checked last weeks Baseball Weekly, and Scarsone was hitting
270 with 10 or so homers for the Scranton-Wilkes Barre Red Barons.  As
an O's fan, I'm glad to see Bell gone, and surprised that we got an actual
breathing human being in return.  However, I don't know how old Scarsone
is--but I certainly wouldn't expect to get a decent prospect out of a 
mega-scrub like Bell.

Does anyone know who the Jays will start against the O's Thursday?  I heard
Dave Stieb was going to start initially, but Monday I heard that Doug(?)
Linton was getting the start.  Any info?  

A big game tonight, the O's have a good shot at getting 3 of 4 if they can
beat Jimmy Key tonight.  Now, if 'Big Blast' Ben McDonald (Have the BBDDD
people given him a homer-name yet?) can keep the ball out of the Hard
Rock Cafe tonight, we should stand a decent shot of winning.

Is Gregg Olson related to Don Stanhouse??  Every time Ollie goes out there, 
he's GOT to make it interesting (I mean, last night was REALLY pushing it, 
hits to Borders and Manny Lee-I thought for sure Olson was going to visit
the Skydome House of Horrors again...).  (For those of you who aren't
familiar with Stanhouse, Earl Weaver gave him the nickname 'Full Pack'--
referring to the number of cigarettes Weaver smoked every time he brought
Stanhouse in to close a game.)

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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Bill James (Mazzilli,Zeile,HoJo)
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:46:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.142939.2918@brtph560.bnr.ca> dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025) writes:
>Bill James writes in the 1982 Abstract:
>> Joe Torre took a young man who two years ago
>> was convinced he was going to be a great ballplayer and succeeded
>> in convincing him him that he is not.  And for that, no matter 
>> what else he might have done, he deserved to be fired."
>
> This sounds like what the METS have done to HOJO as well.

HoJo's hardly a young player.  He's a 31-year-old having his standard
off-year even-numbered season.
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From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mel's Enfant Terrible Todd (WAS Question-infield fly rule)
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:35:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.36878
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <4200328@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger) writes:
>If I understand correctly, the infield fly rule is to prevent the fielder 
>from dropping the ball on purpose to get a double play.  What I don't
>understand, is why does there have to be runners at first AND second for
>it to be called.  If there is a runner at first only, it is just as possible
>for the fielder to drop the ball for the double play.

>Or am I way off on why the infield fly rule is called?????

Er, well, usually the batter isn't Benito Santiago, and will
run out the pop fly, thus almost certainly beating the relay.
So with just a runner on first, it's very hard to turn a DP 
on a pop fly.

I'd like the rule to be repealed, actually - I think it would
be lots of fun to see teams trying to turn two on pop ups. The
runners would have to keep on their toes, but not be off far
enough to get doubled up if the ball is caught.

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From: lkc@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Lee Casuto)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:34:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Peter Gammons: A Query
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball

In rec.sport.baseball, mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:
> Or a ticket on an occasional train of thought ...

My spouse cares nothing for baseball (but she's got some good points too).
Anyway, whenever I have Baseball Tonight on, and Peter Gammons starts
one of his diatribes, her comment is always along the lines of why doesn't
ESPN hire someone who can convey a coherent report including some content.

When she's right, she's right.  One of her good points.

l\
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dream Team
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:47:01 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <16be90INNeqd@malibog.hal.COM> rc@hal.COM (Rolland Crunk) writes:
>I completely disagree. IMO David Cone is the best pitcher in either
>league (yep even better than Roger Clemens). I wouldn't mention Drabek
>in the same breath.

Care to provide any justification for that opinion?  I'd be very interested
in *why* you think David Cone is better than Roger Clemens.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
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From: Don Soucy <AB47@UNB.CA>
Subject: "The Comrades of Summer" (no spoiler)
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:59:47 GMT

I just caught part of an HBO baseball movie, "The Comrades of Summer."
It is about a Russian team that comes to North America to play MLB
teams.  Although there were a couple baseball movie cliches (e.g.,
9th inning, big game, slow-mo) the film had its good moments.  For
my money, the movie had two especially enjoyable features.  First, they
filmed part of it at my favorite ballpark, Nat Bailey Stadium in
Vancouver (home of the Canadians, the White Sox AAA team).  Second,
the script called for the Seattle Mariners to be a winning team
(some here in r.s.bb might even say the "best" team).

Too bad it's only Hollywood fantasy.  I'm on the losing side of
a bet made last spring with a Penn State buddy--one beer for each
game the Mariners are over or under 500.  I'll be lucky to get away
with owing just a case.  Not to worry, though:  I'll clean up on
that same bet next year.

Don Soucy

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:19:54 -0400 
From: David_Stephenson@transarc.com
Subject: Re: Pirates mailing list


David William Blob <db64+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Hey All,
> 
>     I am starting a Pittsburgh Pirates mailing list.  Please mail me if
> you would like to be added to it.
> 
> Dave

Please include me dws@transarc.com

Thanks
Dave
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Brewers - Bosox (Aug 16)
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:58:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095F39C.130AA440
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

Jaime Navarro pitched another 9 inning shut-out but this
time, mercifully enough the Brewer batters scored a run to get
hime the win against Viola . The Brew Crew has scored one run in 
each of their last three games and they could score only 2
runs in 28 innings against the Angels in the series before.
But against the Sox Eldred and Navarro came to their rescue
by pitching shutouts which enabled the Brew Crew to take 
3 out of 4 (inclding a crazy 8-7 game on Friday).
Milwaukee has an off day on Monday and then they face
Toronto Blue Jays for a 3 game series starting on Tuesday.
This should be a clutch series, but the batters better get some
runs or else it would be big trouble.
The brewers were 2nd in AL in batting just a couple of weeks ago
but now they are 8th. 
Bruce Ruffin will pitch on Tuesday, Bosio on Wednesday 
and Cal Eldred on Thursday. 
The Brewers then face the Tigers for the weekend series.

bye,

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From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Subject: Sierra to be traded?
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 13:33:21 GMT


    Our paper is reporting that the Rangers are close to dealing Ruben
Sierra, who has just one homer since the break.  They say reports are that
he has cleared the necessary waivers.
     If this is true, I'm puzzled as to where he would go.  Most teams are
too far bacdk of the Braves, and the one that could re-sign him, the Padres,
has enough hitting.
     Milwaukee has enough pitching they could trade a starter, and this move
would make the most sense the way their offense has slumped, since they're
only 3 1/2 games out, but they couldn't re-sign him unless they mortgage the
rest of the team, could they?  Who else is there that's close?  Or would it
be the Braves themselves - Ted Turner could probably give him a big salary
boost without too much trouble.
-- 
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Real home: Canton, Ohio             :  finer than the last."--Charles Dickens
 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Braves Woof
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:17:34 GMT

So the Braves, while padding their lead in the West, have now won 5 of 6
games against the two best teams in the NL Least. Lookin good for October,
Braves fans.........

-rob


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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Giants to American League? (was: Tampa Bay Giants)
Date: 12 Aug 92 01:34:56 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

jwest@wisc (Jeff West) writes:

>How would you feel about the Giants being in the American League?
>Story out of Tampa today has the Milwaukee Brewer's going to the
>NL West and the Giants to the AL East.
>Sounds weird but it's what I heard on the radio at lunch time 
>today.

There is fear in Tampa that some American League Owners will
oppose the Giants' move because it will mean an NL lock on the
Southeast market.  It would be interesting to see a survey of the
AL owners to verify if this is true or not.

However, I think that the Tampa owners are banking on building
rivalries with Miami and Atlanta to boost attendence.  Tampa
fans would rather go to a game against Miami than Seattle,
Kansas City, Texas, etc.  The Miami-Tampa rivalry could
become one of baseball's best.

A team has never switched leagues.  If it were to happen, it
would certainly be very interesting, but hell for us
Rotisserie players!  (bye bye Will Clark ...)


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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Phillies/Orioles Trade(Scarsone/Bell)
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:54:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico

In article <23562@oasys.dt.navy.mil> efindler@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Edward Findler) writes:
>In rec.sport.baseball, rob@chili.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>>Wasn't Bell the main prospect the Orioles got for Eddie Murray?
>
>
>Yes, Juan Bell was supposed to be the future shortstop and star of the
>Orioles.  He is the last remnant of the horrendous Eddie Murray trade.
> Now the trade is a confirmed failure.  The Dodgers and Mets got a good
>solid hitter, and we get some potential that never worked out.  However,
>I'm sure Juan Bell will be an all-star pretty soon, as is the case with
>most former Orioles(see Martinez, Denny and Finley, Steve just for starters).
>
Oh, bull and/or oney.  The trade of Eddie Murray cleared the way for Randy
Milligan, who played better than Murray in '89, almost as good in '90, and
better in '91.  Guess who's playing better in '92.  Now take a wild guess and
tell me who got paid more.  How much more?  Think it was worth it?  Didn't think
so.  I'd rather have had Ken Hill, but the Murray trade was a pure case of 
addition by subtraction.  The play of Phil Bradley and Brian Holton was gravy.
As for Tito, the guy impressed me down here even less than Offerman in '88.
(And for those who think I should have been impressed by him, I've seen better,
here in ABQ.  .326 in the PCL is just, well, put it this way.  Dick Schofield
hit .285 in Edmonton.  And Edmonton is a *pitcher's park* in the PCL.)

-- 
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Mel's Enfant Terrible Todd (WAS Question-infield fly rule)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:16:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.211645.29487@parc.xerox.com> zappala@Xerox.com (Daniel Zappala) writes:
>In article <36878@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>> 
>> Er, well, usually the batter isn't Benito Santiago, and will
>> run out the pop fly, thus almost certainly beating the relay.
>> So with just a runner on first, it's very hard to turn a DP 
>> on a pop fly.

>So have you ever seen an infielder drop a *line drive* on purpose, in order
>to get a double play?

I've seen Wally Joyner doing it several times.  Usually, he doesn't get two
(he just gets the force) but a couple times he did.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: St. Pete Guppies 1993 lineup
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:19:33 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

St. Pete Guppies lineup for 1993:

LF - Barry Bonds
CF - Kirby Puckett
RF - Cory Snyder
3B - Matt Williams
SS - Shawn Dunston
2B - John Patterson
1B - Will Clark
C  - Steve Decker

Reserves: Lewis, Manwaring, Leonard, Clayton, James, Felder, whoever

Starters: Black
          Swift
          Garrelts
          Burkett
          Cook  

Relievers: Brantley
           Wilson
           Beck
           Oliveras
           whoever

Gone (trade or release) Uribe, Thompson (won't last on the concrete of
     the suncoast dome), McGee (says he isn't happy), Righetti

Get Puckett and Bonds from the free agent market, Dunston (whose value in
Chi has dropped) for a draft pick or a trade and Cook from the Indians for
a trade.  Also may be a couple good relievers out there to grab.
    
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From: hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks)
Subject: Re: Frank Thomas Watch
Organization: NSSL
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:47:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.065241.13769@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>Frank Thomas is (through 8/9) on pace to reach base via a hit or a
>walk 325 times (plus surely a few HBP), with 315 total bases!
>
>If Thomas were to go 0-4 in each remaining game (an 0-212 streak), he
>would finish with a .316 OBP and .355 SLG.  Dan Gladden has a .321 OBP
>and .358 SLG.  (Now we know the offensive difference between Thomas
>and Gladden.  A simple little 0-212 slump!  :-)

Just to make this complete--Thomas could fail to reach base the next 345
times and still have a higher OBA than Andres Galarraga.  It only takes
0-216 to drop to AG's SLG.

Harold
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Andres Galarraga (Through 12 August)  .230 BA  .352 SLG  .268 OBA
26 H away from .300  7 HBP  6 BB    669+ PA w/o a sacrifice
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Tim Wakefield & the Bucs
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:24:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.200452.16542@news.acns.nwu.edu> jlesgold@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jacob Lesgold) writes:
>The Tribune said that Wakefield has a 46-mph kncuckler.  This brings two
>questions to my mind...
>
>1)  How fast is the average knuckleball?  
>
>2)  Do the Pirates have a fastballer who can pitch the next day
>to "heighten the effect"?  And would there be any real effect?

Supposedly there is a real effect.  The Red Sox have always had
problems for a few days after facing Hough.

I wonder something else...  Does Wakefield need a full four rest days?
Unlike Candiotti, Wakefield throws almost solely knuckleballs.  It
can't put particularly much stress on his arm.  Would he be capable of
pitching a complete game every third day?  How about six innings every
third day?  Maybe let him pitch the opening game of every series???

Okay, so the other pitchers would never go for this.  But it would
be fun to see!

Cheers,
-Valentine
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