From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: [soc.culture.indian, et al.]  Hi there fella ! (RE: STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS, FINAL WARNING !!)
Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:25:44 GMT

[A repost - Carl]

From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject:  Hi there fella ! (RE: STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS, FINAL WARNING !!)
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:32:29 CST

In article <1igt67INN1ec@aludra.usc.edu>, moinuddi@usc.edu (Asif Moinuddin) 
writes:
> ************************************************************************
> 
> 	This is an execllent idea proposed by D.Pereira to maintain the
> sanity of this elctronic media. Surely, one can express the difference
> of opinions. Most of us seem to have no stuff to say, hence the cheap
> attempt to gain publicity through obscene postings. 
> 
> 	Every reader has a right to write to system administrator against
> obscene postings who will take the necessary disciplinary actions. Please,
> post the following memo periodically to prevent future obscene postings.
> 
> 	Although the desi community in US is supposed to be highly educated,
> these kinds of postings do not reflect that AND MORE IMPORTANTLY
> DEMEANS SUCH A USEFUL MEDIUM FROM REALLY SERVING AS FORUM OF OF MEANINGFUL
> DISCUSSIONS.
> 
> 
> 				MEMO
>                                *********
> 				
> 
> TO ALL	who post *really* obscene and offensive material
> 
> FROM:	D. Pereira and others,
> 	Indignant and frustrated readers
> 
> REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
> 	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN
> 
> 
> After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
> to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
> copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
> action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 
> will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
> He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
> be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
> evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)
> 
> If any other sci readers out there decide to support this action, then please
> express your opinion.  A suggestion: extract this memo and post it again under
> your own name.  Do please take the effort to type the SUBJECT heading over,
> rather then doing a REPLY.  This way you will convey to the offenders that you
> feel as strongly about this.
> 
> A final note to the persons mentioned above - please take this very seriously.
> It is NOT a joke.
> 
> 
> 
     My Dear Asif Moinuddin:

 
     Thanks for your "puritan" expletives. I must say that your naiveness
     knows no bounds. Please go and read the Bill of Rights and the 1st
     Amendment. There is something called Freedom of Expression (Speech).
     Go see a lawyer and try to find out what I am saying. FYI, I did make
     an enquiry about what can I post thru' both legal agencies and the
     Ombudsperson plus Sys. Admin. They only told me that *it might be good
     if I was decent* - but no one cannot force upon you what you should
     write. That would be clear violation of what U.S laws exactly offer.

    Therefore, without going into pedantic moorings with a "mullah" (pun)
    like yourself, I would say that if there is *anything* ever against
    my friends, I shall ask them to take the legal route - because it is
    extremely prohibitive to choke someone's freedom. This matter can be
    settled with the ombudspersons in respective universities. Moreover,
    as you have stated - that in U.S one must respect one's Freedom of
    Expression. (Writing to my sys. admin. *will not* help because I had
    a lengthy discussion with him on the proceedures for posting.)

    I admit that of late U of Kansas, Colorado School of Mines has been 
    getting bad press. However, this can be stopped only by two ways -
    (1) Listening to what I have to say, and, (2) use a KILL file.
    You cannot argue that you do not have the freedom of ignoring an offensive
    post. (That would be a baloney). Use KILL files, or, better still press "N".

    - I think that you already knew that, but, probably you forgot ---

          deb chatterjee
        (a good samaritan)
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Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
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