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From: ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
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Subject: How StreetTalk work ?
Date: 10 Dec 92 09:35:09 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore

I am new to Banyan VINES. How can I find out more about how the ST function ?
Is there any technical notes except those in the manual? (I am having VINE5.0)

In particular I would like to find out the following in a multi server
environment:

1.  When a user login, how did he find a ST service on the LAN? 

2.  Once it locate a server that provide the ST service, does it always
    query to the same server for name query subsequently, e.g. when doing
    a setdrive? 

    If yes then what happen if the ST service down? Will it query from 
    another ST service?

3.  Is the query being answer in a 'recursive manner', i.e. the ST service
    that one query, will contact to other servers to get the answer and 
    return to the user if the information is not stored in the current
    server?

4. Does the ST service cache the result of a query for a subsequent same
   query?

5. Assumming all servers are in the same local LAN, must all servers runs
   the ST service? Why? It may be ideal to have only one or two servers
   maintaining the ST database while others providing other services like
   file and mail

6. Does ST provide name searching mechanism at all? Is STDA a must for name 
   searching or it is useful only when complicate name searching and sorting
   is required when using the mail service?


Thank you in advance.



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Wong Chee Heng
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Subject: re: HP Laserjet III extra page probl
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:29:00 GMT
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Paul writes of printing extra pages from Laserjets...

> We are running Vines 4.10 (0) (Please don't ask why.), on Zenith
> 386DX/25 servers, and have a formfeed (/f) in the suffix to output
> any direct DOS printouts; ala >prn, Lotus 123, etc.  And the
> printers are directly connected to the Server via both serial and
> parallel ports.

I think the formfeed is for every job spooled, not just DOS. I think there
are two ways to fix this:

1) instead of using /f for the suffix, use \EE - this sends an escape
sequence to the Laserjet that tells it to print a page, only if non-blank.

2) set your applications not to send a formfeed at the end of job. WP lets
you do this when you select a network printer.

The first option is probably preferable. Your Laserjet clone printers must be
not quite clones!

-jav     John Valenti    valenti@msu.edu    Michigan State University
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From:         idrc/G=David/S=Dores/O=IDRC_CRDI/OU=EDP_TED@MHS.ATTMAIL.COM
Subject:      PC-TCP for Windows

James...

You say that we have the option to buy direct, and thus receive your exemplary
direct support, but isn't that option not available for the Ibanyan kernel?

Only Banyan sells this product, am I right?? and thus, you MUST get support
through your VAR...  At times I have been happy with my VAR's support.  At
times I have not, and tried to phone direct -- with hit and miss results.
Most of the time, I get "call your VAR, we don't support that product
directly", and sometimes, if I complain enough, I've gotten through to a tech.

My $.02...

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:02:18 EST
From:         Keith Lally <lally@PMDB.SEP.BNL.GOV>
Subject: Re: FTP Version 2.10

I've had 2.1 for over two months now.
keith lally
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From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      re: Disk cache...
              "David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL%BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
              @VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU" at Dec 15, 92 7:17 am

>
> I do not know if this software uses the MSDEX interface, but Tiger Software
> advertises a program called CD Lightning or something like that.  The ad
> states a 200% improvement in access speed.
>

Thanks!!!!!! I think I have one of their catalogs at home!

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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:48:03 +1100
From:         Paul White <pdw@MELB.BULL.OZ.AU>
Subject: Re: ICA error

While I can't offer a reason for your problem, I can confirm that FD-1 is the
only patch you should need.  Having been through the same process, I found that
FD-1 is at the end of a chain of about 9 patches, starting with (I think) BG-1.
Each patch seemed to replace the preceding one.

Paul White,
Bull HN, Melbourne.
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:46:23 EST
From:         Elliott Coates <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject: re: How StreetTalk work ?

>Banyan has some great educational courses which will explain all.Call Gloria
>Simpson, Banyan Ed.Services at 1-800-235-5332.She'll send you a catalog and
>you can be on your way to becomeing a certified Banyan engineer

Then we can fold up the list.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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From:         "Stephen B. Hathaway" <shathaway@[192.33.12.1]>
Subject:      RE: Certification

In Message Thu, 10 Dec 1992 12:48:52 CST,
  David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL%BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:

>David,
>
>        Have you had problems with any other large, over 1.0Gb, SCSI hard
>drives?  Which drive(s) did you end up using?  I am thinking about using some
>large HD's new the server I am in the process of building.
>
>"Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is
 Complexity"
>David L. Blair                  davidb@uiuc.edu         (217)-333-2565 - Voice
>Computer Resource Coordinator   U of I - Col. of Comm.  (217)-333-7151 - FAX

I know I'm not the addressee, but I have had some experience w/large hard
drives. We are currently running a 486/33 EISA box w an Adaptec 1542b,
Conner 200, and Maxtor 1.7g, and VINES 4.11(5). Works fine. Could not get
the following to work(as of 8/92) above with a DPT 2012a EISA SCSI
controller. VINES 5.0(0) with either controller. The Conner was probably ok,
but as we have > 200M of user files, well...

Hope this helps.
Stephen B. Hathaway, Laboratory Manager, School of Natural Science
Hampshire College, Amherst, MA  01001
shathaway@hamp.hampshire.edu
(413) 549-4600 x774
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:43:40 EST
From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Mac and 3270/SNA
              14 Dec 1992 08:17:24 EST from
              <Thomas=Dyckes%IS%CHI@ALOHA.CHI.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:17:24 EST <Thomas=Dyckes%IS%CHI@ALOHA.CHI.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
>> Can anybody give me some information about Mac's on VINES?
>
>> Questions:
>> - Do we really need the Mac-Option only on one server?
>>   Can these users login, even if their group is registered
>>   on a server without this option?
>> - Is the 3270/SNA option available to Mac users?
>
I am in the process of installing Macs on our campus Vines network which
consists of 3 FDDI routers and 18 servers. I have installed the Mac option
on 1 server that is on 1 lan segment of Router A. There is also a localtalk
network on that lan segment using a Fastpath. These Macs have no problem
connecting to the Vines server. On lan segment 2 of Router A there is a Mac
with an Ethernet board. It can also attach to the Vines server. On Router C
there is a lan segment that has a localtalk  with a FastPath connection. These
Macs can also connect to the same Vines server. All are Phase 2 and have their
own AppleTalk network number. The FDDI routers are CISCO AGS+ with Vines and
AppleTalk routing enabled. I haven't had the time to test applications and
Mac Mail yet but so far so good.

My test users are the Network operations staff that reside in 3 different
buildings. Their group is on a different server than the one with the Mac
option.

Shirley Rodgers
University of Akron
SRodgers@uakron.edu
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:04:54 PST
From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject:      Disk cache...

Does anyone know of a program that will cache a CD-ROM drive using the
MSCDEX interface? Since a CD is read-only there should be no problem,
but none of the software I have will go for it. Would REALLY hate to write
my own!!!

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From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: PC/TCP 2.1

John,

Sorry to drag this on (talking about a can of worms), but - On the MN244 fax
form where it asks for the customer data and says (i.e. Original purchaser
from Banyan, typically Banyan Reseller in most cases), did you put your info
or your reseller's?  Thanks.

Mike Crist
TRW
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From: jabusch@zorro.cecer.army.mil (John Jabusch)
Subject: Re: IEEE 802.3
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:35:08 GMT

ps@JET.UK writes:

>Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of IEEE 802.3 (Ethernet Spec)
>either an ISBN number or an FTP site.

Paul,

I have the ANSI/IEEE Std 802.3-1985 / ISO/DIS 8802/3 Local Area Networks
Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Collision Detection book.  
ISBN 471-82479-5

This is an old version, that does not include much on 10BASE2 and 
nothing on 10BASET or F.  However, there should be newer revisions
available.

-john
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:23:32 EST
From:         Elliott Coates <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject: re: FTP Version 2.10

>It's one thing to be a third party developer and have to wait for the new
>revision of the toolkit to proceed,

Then again look at MS and the Win32 Toolkit.  MS seems to be able to develop a
system at the same time they give developer's access; or at just about the same
time.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:06:09 EST
From:         Thomas=Dyckes%IS%CHI@ALOHA.CHI.OHIO-STATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Mac and 3270/SNA

Thanks for the information Shirley. I will make good use of it.

Actually I was attempting to answer someone else's questions and
I think I made it look like I was asking. Irregardless though,
it is gratifying to have some hard confirmation from someone who
has gone before.

-Thomas Dyckes,
 Children's Hospital - Columbus, Ohio
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Subject: ==>> New Packet Driver for 3C509
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:07:43 GMT
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I just uploaded the newest version of the 3C509 packet driver to CSUS.EDU.  It
is the sixth beta release, 3c509f.  Dated 12/11/92  I had problems getting
release four, 3c509d, to work.  But release five, 3c509e, works great.


"Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity"
David L. Blair                  davidb@uiuc.edu         (217)-333-2565 - Voice
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From:         "Clement G. Taylor" <cgtaylor@ENGPRN.MOBIL.COM>
Subject:      OS/2 dial in

I am running OS/2 2.0 with the service pack and the Banyan LA(3). This
combination works well. Does Vines 4.11(5) with the LA(3) upgrade support
dialup access? I would like to connect to our network from my home machine which
also has OS/2 2.0 and the service pack.

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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:17:22 CST
From:         David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: Disk cache...

I do not know if this software uses the MSDEX interface, but Tiger Software
advertises a program called CD Lightning or something like that.  The ad
states a 200% improvement in access speed.

"Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity"
David L. Blair                  davidb@uiuc.edu         (217)-333-2565 - Voice
Computer Resource Coordinator   U of I - Col. of Comm.  (217)-333-7151 - FAX
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:44:32 EST
From:         John=Valenti%cs%SSC@BANYAN.CL.MSU.EDU
Subject:      re: PC/TCP 2.1

Mike Crist writes:

> I looked at Marketing Notice 244.  It seems rather ambiguous.  For a free
> upgrade it says you have to be either:  1) A reseller with a SUP (Support)
> contract.  2)  A DIRECTLY SUPPORTED end user with a CSS (Comprehensive
> Software Support) contract.

We have the CSS contract on most of our servers, through Syntrex. No, we
aren't "directly supported" by Banyan (I wish!). I had the same questions
about whether I should send the form directly to Banyan, but when I called
they said it was OK. I spoke to the woman (who's name I forget) mentioned in
MN244.

-jav     John Valenti    valenti@msu.edu    Michigan State University
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:27:55 EST
From:         "Clement G. Taylor" <cgtaylor@ENGPRN.MOBIL.COM>
Subject:      re: OS/2 dial in

Thanks for the offer to help via Compuserve. Yes, I am interested in a
straight dialed connection, with no third party products. Clem Taylor
>
> Clement
>
>   To be honest with you, I've never tired it. I'm assumming you are talking
>   about a "straight" Vines solution (ie PC DIal-up Opt and no third party
>   products). As long as the 4.x API is adhered to (ie no home-grown API's)
>   it should work. I'll put out a question about this on COmpuserve and let
>   you know if I get any response.
>
> John Krogh
> Rockwell International
>
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:55:42 MST
From:         "Patricia M. Schneider" <ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      586 certification

Does anyone know whether Banyan is going to be certifying 586 computers
for servers?  If so, does anyone have a clue as to which ones they might
be?  I have a site that is interested.

Thanks...
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:24:10 PST
From:         HLP1%ItsLsc%CTS@CTS27.CS.PGE.COM
Subject:      re: re:Re: Mac and 3270/SNA

>>  Can these users login, even if their group is registered
>>  on a server without this option?

>StreetTalk is still global, but only user whose ST is on a rev 5 server
>may logon at a Mac (some extra hook needed I guess).  Mac users can access
>the mail service on any server.  There are compatability issues with pre-
>IMS (5.00(6)) mail services (6K limit etc).

We have a different situation.  A user on a Mac can login with any ST id,
whether the id is on a 5.x server or not.  But, the Mac user can only get
mail from a mail service that is on a 5.0 server.

Herb Patten
PG&E
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:51:45 -0400
From:         Steve=Skilbeck%Economics%UNIMELB@MUWAYE.UNIMELB.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: PCPRINT under VINES 5.0 (6)

Hi,

> I upgraded a bunch of servers to VINES 5.0 (6) on Saturday.  Now the
> PcPrint services are giving a message: The print service specified does not
> support network printing.  Does anyone know what the hey is going on?

Vines 5 printing services are different to Vines 4 printing services...

If you run mservice, control service - pick the pcprint service you want to
setup, then run configure service, you should notice that you have different
options that weren't there in vines 4.

You now need to specifiy destinations, access lists, alert lists & you also
have other options which you can change.

The destination should be the login name that is used on the pc that is
running pcprint, if it is a workstation where a few users login you should
add each of them as a destination (someone can correct me if I'm wrong here)

Setting these things up for each pcprint service should fix your problems.


Stephen Skilbeck
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:59:59 EST
From:         Shawn Farrell <INSF@MCGILLB.BITNET>
Subject:      OS/2 2.0 Extended Services

We are running the LA software for OS/2 2.0 and are trying to get Banyan
to work with Extended Services installed, with no luck.

If anyone has this working, I would appreciate seeing a copy of the
your CONFIG.SYS and PROTOCOL.INI files.

Thanks a lot

Shawn Farrell
Merck Frosst

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:56:25 EST
From:         Greg Martin <martin@HQ.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Associated Record '0' layout

Question, Does anyone have the layout of StreetTalk's AR '0'?  I'm doing some
fiddling with Visual Basic and want to grab the User description.  I know it's
part of the 1024 byte AR but don't know which 64 bytes it is.  I've wandered
 through the Toolkit and the TEch II books but didn't find it.

I'd greatly appreciate it if you could pass the structure along.

\Greg MArtin
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:43:45 PST
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject:      re: Help: 4.11(1) -> (5), OS/2 doesn't print !

John,

Interestingly enough, we haven't had any problems with Compaq OS/2 1.21.  I've
had it running Microsoft SQL Server on my net for over a year (using VINES
Named Pipe Support).  Started with 4.10(0), and now it's up to 4.11(5).  I've
also had good luck with IBM OS/2 1.3 as workstations.

The only suggestion I can offer the original poster on printing problems is
keep an eye on the patch listings.  I stopped counting how many printing
problems have been resolved by site specific patches.


Mike Crist
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From: parlog@echo.canberra.edu.au (Parlog project)
Subject: Re: PC Print Performance
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:06:17 GMT

In <BANYAN-L%92120408200002@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU writes:

>You can achieve up to twice the speed if your pop-up window (alt-p) is NOT
>displayed as compared to when it is displayed....

The experience at our site suggests that PC-Print runs fastest if the
window is down on CGA machines and up on EGA and VGA machines.  It
appears that Banyan's code does flicker suppression for CGA's.

Parallel interfaces are much faster than serial -- but they slow the PC
down much more.  We use our old XTs as dedicated PC-Print servers
so this isn't a problem.

Glen Turner
Canberra Uni, Australia
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From:         Stephane=Bourque%Eng%Incognito@TEST.ARTS.SFU.CA
Subject:      re: Trying to speed up StreetTalk

Bent:

        I am no Super expert on StreetTalk but from experience and what
        I have heard previously from some Banyan engineers...When you cross
        the 500 users/group boundary, StreetTalk search time increases
        drastically.  I was also told that ST Engineers were working on
        accelerating the Search process.  This was supposed to help in large
        groups of users.  Now wherever this made it in STreetTalk or it is
        still to come...That I cannot recall.

        P.S. I have delt with a University before where they had put 1800
        users in one group! Everything was working fine until they put
        the SETMAIL statement in the MAIN sample profile...but that's
        another story...

        Stephane Bourque
        stephb@test.arts.sfu.ca
        Incognito Software Inc.
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:25:50 -0300
From:         Ian.Brabham@CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
Subject:      re: Fwd:determining if a user is logged on

James Neering,

Grab /pub/banyan/src/xusers.zip from csus.edu.  It includes the source and it
works out if a user 'might' be logged in from the users associated record 1
and then confirms it with some other calls.  Nice bit of programming.

Happy program cloning :-)

Ian Brabham                 email: ian.brabham@cc.monash.edu.au
Micro Support Group         phone: +61 3 565 4742
Monash University           fax:   +61 3 565 4746
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