From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Talaq-by-phone
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:33:37 GMT

To: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
Subject: Re: TALAQ over Tele-Phone

In article <ZEESHAN.92Nov6195531@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> you write:
>In article indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:

>>   Bandhuwon!
>	Strange you should start like this.  You're no friend of mine.

   Hindus consider every Hindu as their relatives.  Very cultural.
   I may not be known to you. So? I consider you or all those on s.c.b. as 
   bandhus because few centuries back there  were some Hindus who were 
   converted forcibly into Islam whose descendants are muslims in Bangladesh.

>>     I  am   interested  in knowing  whether  the  ISLAMIC  PRACTICE OF  
>>    TALAQ  (divorce)  is possible over phone?
>>   All I know about this system is that, 
>>   A MALE CAN DIVORCE HIS WIFE JUST BY SAYING TALAQ-TALAQ-TALAQ  
>>   (uttering TALAQ three times).

>	[lots of obnoxious rubbish deleted]
>	In other words, you don't know anything about it.  You just

  I do not know if one would call some questions about Islamic practices
  obnoxious. If you prefer then so be it. I do not have much objections.
  As for me not knowing anything about it, I already confessed in my post
  that my knowledge source of one of the  "PRACTICES IN ISLAM". So I do 
  not understand WHY you are hell bent upon proving that I do not know.

>have a simplistic stereotypical idea in mind, and you want to use this
  I was curious.  I had these simple doubts over Islam. Does Islam curb 
  curiosity Or is it your personality trait?

>limited knowledge to poke some fun at someone else's beliefs.  How
>laudable.

  If you take offence at my genuine interest then I think there is some thing
  BASICALY wrong in your attitudes. Poke some fun? Well I never thought it was
  that very funny. Are you having some inferiority complex ? 
  I've never hidden my knowledge. I never said, YOUR are  not worthy of ..
  type of stuff. I'm interested simply in this area of Islam. And want to
  see its consistency.  I want to see its LOGIC base in different aspects.
   
  If you are having reservations over this issue, you can keep off. WHY DO 
  YOU HAVE TO GO  AROUND saying I KNOW THE ANSWERE BUT I WILL NOT TELL.
  If you want to continue YOUR WAY, go ahead. No objections from my side. 

>	However, I will say that Islam gives the right of divorce to
>both husband and wife; that divorce settlements are compulsory and
>must be equitable; and that the woman is free to remarry, after having
>waited a period sufficient to establish that she is not pregnant with
>her former husband's child.

  Thanks. ( By the way why did you prefer to give this peice of knowledge, 
  when you already said that you will not give?)

>> My  views expressed above are made on a PERSONAL basis              |
>> No Group or  Organization   can be held responsible                 |
>	I'm sure no one but BJP would want to be.

  THIS JUST PROVES YOUR obsessive-reactionary attitude. You are bringing some
  third party too.  I do not know your intentions. DO YOU THINK BJP is that 
  stornger than ISLAM in matters pertaining to Islam? Is soc.culture.bangladesh
  an IMPROPER PLACE for questions on ISLAM? 

  (I was reading this book ISLAM UNVIELED by Anis Sorrosh, where he tackled
   Deedat very effectively. So I started gaining interest in the basics of 
   this religion. Whether it is logic based or what is it? I have read 
   couple of things like Prophet Muhammad married his SONS wife, though 
   QURAN allows widow re-marriage which prophet incidentally supported 
   he dis-allowed re-marriage of his wives,  HIS (in)TOLERANT ATTITUDE TOWARDS
   the invaded people (?!), his supporting the killing of a poetess for speaking
   truth. It is a good book, on ISLAM. In fact  Anis sorrosh proves that 
   Quran spoke of Christ, and the dis-proves  the claim of Anwar Deedat that  
   PROPHET Muhammad was predited in Bible etc,. At  some point, Anwar Deedat 
   while countering Anis Sorrosh goes to the extent of saying that "his 
   Hindu brothers are more consistent in their Philososphy than his Christian 
   brothers".)

 Man! you seem to be worked up. Cool down.

>Zeeshan Hasan 

-Indu.
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