From: born@scepter.raleigh.ibm.com (Christopher J. Born)
Subject: Re: Hold on to your wallet!
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:24:16 GMT
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Reply-To: born@scepter.raleigh.ibm.com (Christopher J. Born)
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In  <1992Sep15.053446.25556@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>  mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
> In  <1992Sep12.055553.4593@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>  mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
> >> What do you and people making over $200,000 a year have in common?
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> You'll all be paying more in taxes during a Clinton administration!
> >>
> >> Tonight on CNN's Crossfire Robert Novak asked senior Clinton campaign
> >> advisor Frank Greer point blank THREE times "Will Bill Clinton guarantee
> >> people making under $200,000 a year that they will not have their taxes
> >> raised during a Clinton administration?"  He ducked the question THREE
> >> times when all it required was a simple yes or no.  What's the Clinton
> >> campaign trying to hide?  Better hold on to your wallet, there's some
> >> 'slick' fingers trying to grab it!
>
> In article <1992Sep14.161616.26211@watson.ibm.com> born@scepter.raleigh.ibm.com (Christopher J. Born) writes:
> >Hey Richard, who pays for your funding?
> >
> >I just can't stand people who are on the dol(sp?) who complain about taxes.
> >Being on the dol(sp?)  includes the president, people who work for NASA,
> >a member of the military, a county garbage collector, a teacher, etc...
>
> So I guess in your world people who work directly or indirectly for the
> government have no right to representation in terms of taxes?  {:^)

On the contrary, you should be much more represented because of your
dependence on the government for your funding.  Having a number of
persons (representatives, senators, the president) defending
programs such as NASA isn't too bad.

> Don't forget, being on the dol (I don't know how it's spelled either)
> includes big computer companies that get big government contracts to supply
> big (or lots of little) systems to big government agencies.

Agreed.

>
> >I could never understand, how,  someone who is on the dol, complain about taxes
> >If we cut taxes 50%, can we cut everyones dol by 50%?
>
> Nowhere have I stated that I am opposed to paying taxes or having them
> raised.  I would gladly pay more in taxes if it was put to reducing the
> deficit and spending was frozen.  What I am opposed to is people like

I would also concur on paying more in taxes.  Unfortunately, we already
tried that under Bush and look at the results.  There's
one thing that Clinton said in his acceptance speech that I really agree
with is (and paraphrasing), "even if they(Bush & Co.) don't like
government, the least they could do is make what is there work."
The legacy of the Reagan-Bush era is government that doesn't work
which I partially (more than 50%) attribute the deficit problems to them.

On a side note. Wouldn't the effects of "spending was frozen" cause your
salary to be frozen or cut?

> Clinton, a man who is luring the middle class to vote for him by saying
> that people making over $200,000 will have their taxes raised, but then
> refuses to guarantee that the rest of us won't pay more.  It's hypocritical

I may be wrong, but hasn't he proposed programs that will cost EVERYONE
more money and admits it. Knowing that, many people still support Clinton.

In the context of saying something on CROSSFIRE
to the effect raising peoples taxes would be an excellent sound bite that
the republicans would use against the Clinton campaign.


> of him to blast Bush for compromising with the Democrats and raising taxes,
> and then play 'mind games' himself with the middle class.

Bush and Co. don't play 'mind games'?  Let's talk about the negotiations
that are going on about the debates.

>
> --
> Richard Mulac                                     mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov
> NASA Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, MS 5-9, Cleveland, OH  44135
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "The question is - who do you trust to make change work | These pontifications
> for you?" - President George Bush                       |      are my own!


Christopher J. Born

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