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From: ssheu@teal.csn.org (Steve Sheu)
Subject: Line drawing characters under curses of HP 8.07
Summary: Does it support graphic character set ?
Keywords: curses of HP 8.07
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:49:23 GMT

Recently we are trying to port a curses base software(with lots of line 
drawing characters) to HP 8.07 plateform. But unfortunatly it just cann't
display those graphic characters.

The code looks something like this:

main()
{
	...
	initscr();
	...
	...
	attrset(A_ALTCHARSET);
	mvaddstr(y,x,"qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq");
	...
	refresh();
	endwin();
	...
}

And we tried vt100, vt220 and vt320 from terminfo library.

So our questions are:
1. Do they support such attribute in this version of curses library ?
2. If yes, is there any way to switch character set (hope it's not terminfo
   level function call) ?

Anyone ??

Steve
From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: executable sizes in fortran
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:45:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Atlanta GA

In article <lee.715546990@ceg.uiuc.edu>, lee@ceg.uiuc.edu (Chris Lee) writes:
> One of our users has a question:
> 
> Why are the fortran executables SOOOOOO  BIIIIIIIIIIG?
> It seems that "all" of the data is being allocated at
> compile/link time, and he would like to know if there is a 
> way to force the compiler/linker to allocate it at runtime.
> 
> We are running HPUX 8.07 on 9000/700s.

Typically this is caused by large (should say LARGE) arrays that are statically allocated.
I usually see this when code is ported from another machine and then compiled with the -K
option to force all data to static storage (instead of being put on the stack). If this is
the case, you can declare the array as being in COMMON, e.g.

change

       DIMENSION BIG(1000000)
to

       DIMENSION BIG(1000000)
       COMMON /BIGCOM/BIG

and don't compile with -K. You'll have to figure out which modules you can use this on.

simon
From: davidb@hpuadla.aus.hp.com (David Booth)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:30:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Wren7 drives on HP9000/817??
Organization: Adelaide, Australia, Smallest HP DownUnder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Martin Renters (martin@innovus.com) wrote:
: We've recently acquired a Wren 7 disk (1.2G Seagate ST41200N/IMPRIMIS 94601-15)
: drive and it works wonderfully on the 300s and 700s, but the 817 we
: have doesn't want to write to it (well, at least not *most* of the time).
: I have managed to mediainit it (no problems) and fsck a filesystem created
: on a 720, but when I try to newfs it on the 817 I get:
: 	write error: 1013774
: 	wtfs: Invalid Argument
: 
I'm amazed you managed to get it to work this much. The s800 disc driver does
a device ident on the disc on the first-access-after-powerup. It then uses
this to learn the section size table from a "precanned" data table hard-coded in
the disc driver.
No entry == no disc functionality. 
Naturally HP only insert entries for HP disc drives. Your out-of-luck with
your WREN drive on the s800 series.

You should be able to attach the drive to an s700, then NFS mount it to
the s800. (Ignoring the NFS irks and quirks of operation, as compared to
direct connect disc).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: edholz@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Ed Holzwarth)
Subject: PPL keeps giving me the same error!
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Keywords: PPL, SLIP
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:39:47 GMT
X-Posted-From: ac.wfunet.wfu.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

------------------------------------------
 ppl: starting for edholz at Thu Sep 10 18:38:56 1992          
                                                               
 could not find remote inet address in /usr/lib/ppl/ppl.remotes
 exiting                                                       
 goodbye                                                       
------------------------------------------

PPL gives me the above error no matter what is in the corresponding line
in ppl.remotes... Here is the ppl.remotes file...

------------------------------------------

152.17.5.1      # remote host name or Internet address  for edholz
152.17.1.1      # local host name or Internet address for ac
255.255.0.0	# Internet mask
SLIP		# protocol [SLIP] [ASLIPC] [ASLIPS] [PPP]
DIRECT		# type [DIRECT] [DIALIN] [DIALOUT] [DIALIN & DIALOUT]
		# UUCP system name
		# line parity [EVEN] [ODD] [NONE]
		# line speed
		# serial line
		# phone number
		# modem control available [YES] [NO]
		# log in info
-------------------------------------------

I am sure you noticed the "for edholz" and "for ac" comments after the
remote and local inet address lines... However, the error comes up whether
those are there or not.  I have tried to follow the examples as closely as
possible... Does anyone have any help or ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Ed Holzwarth
From: yoon@csgo.usc.edu (Dae-kyun Yoon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Does anybody have CSIM patches for HP 7** ?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 15:02:32 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: csgo.usc.edu

We have a couple of users who want to use CSIM package on HP 750/HPUX8.07.
Does anybody have patches of CSIM for HP-PA machines ?

Thanks in advance.
--
DK

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From: dhandly@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Dennis Handly)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:04:58 GMT
Subject: Re: HP cafe (was Re: Strange packaging technique)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Cal Language Lab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>/ snow@netcom.com (Tim Szeliga) / 12:09 pm  Sep  3, 1992 /
>A few years ago, we got a disk drive in a big packing case. To lodge
>the drive securely in the box, there was a heavy 20 inch length of 1.5"x1.5"
>hardwood.  Stenciled on the side (you're getting ahead of me here),
>was the phrase (you guessed it) "HP P/N 19511-80014".  

>  Many's been the time when an object (or person) required delicate
>adjustment and received a wallop from "the HP Part Number".

Heh, so that is where my manager's "HP Project Manager's 'Corrective
Action Tool" comes from!  :-)

I suppose he had to pay extra for the labeling.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: knechod@stacc.med.utah.edu (Kevin Nechodom)
Subject: Re: Kermit on HP3000
Organization: University of Utah STACC
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 23:04:50 GMT

In article <67870153@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> azara@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Anna Zara) writes:
>INTEREX (the HP computer users' group) has a copy of KERMIT for the HP 3000 in
>Their phone number is (408) 738-4848.
>
>Anna Zara

There is also a version of KERMIT available from Columbia University
(watsun.cc.columbia.edu 128.59.39.2), provided that you have an SPL
compiler.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.admin,ctp.it
From: jmay@ctp.com (Jason May)
Subject: Enormous core dumps
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:31:32 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners


What kinds of problems can lead to processes crashing and leaving behind
huge (for example, we had a 50 megabyte one this morning) core files?
I know how to limit this with limit or ulimit, but I'd like to know
more about the events that can cause such core dumps to occur.

Thanks for your help,
-Jason (jmay@ctp.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney)
Subject: Re: X11R5 server SLOW, on 705 with GRX + xterm bug
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:32:39 GMT

jp107@cus.cam.ac.uk (Jon Peatfield) writes:
: Now I've seen things like this before when comparing accelerated
: Xservers against unaccelerated Xservers, so I'm starting to think that
: maybe the GRX has an accelerator, which the HP server makes use of,
: but the sample Ngle code doesn't.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?

I would hesitate to term the GRX hardware "an accelerator", but it
does certainly have features which provide performance enhancements
for tiling, stippling, and some other operations.

: Does anyone have enough info about the Ngle hardware (specifically the
: S9000_ID_A1439A, since that is what the GRX and CRX are), to write the
: ddx server code which will be able to make use of it?

Yes, the people writing the HP servers have such expertise.:-)  The
server which will be distributed with HP-UX 9.0 is based on X11-R5,
and certainly does utilize these features of the GRX display system.

Harry Phinney   harry@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com
From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: monitor for HP730 HP-UX8.07
Summary: Bundled Software
Keywords: Costs
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:56:48 GMT
Organization: Arete Associates, San Diego

In article <1992Sep7.183812.1696@88opensi.88open.ORG> sartin@88opensi.UUCP (Rob Sartin) writes:
> ... About Glance PLUS ...
>But seriously, what is the advantage of having tools that not everyone
>wants "bundled"?  Remember that what that means is that people who don't
>want it also pay for it, not that people who do want it don't pay
>for it.

Some tools can and should be unbundled, such as compilers.  Some
tools, necessary for the system to work properly, should be bundled
in, at least with a support contract.  How many time should one pay
to repair a problem system?

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gcr@pacific.uucp ()
Subject: DAT Drives
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:15:10 GMT

I am trying to use  a DAT drive that came with our HP 730. I installed the
the DATIO software and it appears to be working.
When I type '/usr/bin/datinfo /dev/rmt/0mn' I get:

Maximum capacity = 1986 MB, Remaining Capacity =1973
etc., etc.

But 'tar cvf /dev/rmt/0mn /etc/hosts' gets:
a etc/hosts 2 blocks

tar: end of tape

tar: To continue, enter device name when ready  or null string to quit

What is the correct format of the command ?

Thanks.

gcr@pacific.jpl.nasa.gov




Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,ctp.si
From: jmay@ctp.com (Jason May)
Subject: Printing double columns on a Laserjet IIISi Postscript
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:59:55 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners


We have a Laserjet IIISi in Postscript mode connected to our
HP 9000/847.  The supplied postscript model (we actually
grabbed the one from a 720 because it looked more complete)
does not support options to print regaulr text (code listings) in
double-column landscape mode, or do other handy formatting of that
sort (like the 'vgrind' and related utilities do).  Does an
enhanced version of the postscript model (/usr/spool/lp/model/postscript)
exist?  Alternatively, something like 'vgrind' that works on the HP
would be welcome.

Thanks in advance,
-Jason (jmay@ctp.com)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jgaehwil@itr.ch (Gaehwiler Josef)
Subject: Looking for IP Multicast (RFC 1112) on HP-UX
Summary: HP and Multicast
Keywords: IP, MULTICAST
Organization: Interkantonales Technikum Rapperswil (ITR) Switzerland
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 07:44:50 GMT

Looking for IP Multicast (RFC 1112) on HP-UX

When I look at the relevant include files of our system, I find that
they all mention IP Multicast and the data structures contain the
relevant fields, e.g. struct inpcb contains a reference to IP
multicast options. When I read the documentation (or look at the
namelist of the kernel "nm /hpux", however, I find no mention (or
symbol for) of IP multicast. Could someone shed light on this matter.
Is IP multicast part of the current system or will it be part of the
system in the future, when?



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: pestep@convex.com (Pat Estep)
Subject: memory-mapped I/O
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:16:08 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Does HP-UX support memory mapped I/O?

If no, will version 9.0?

Thanks in advance
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>Also, I am a Mac person and would like any information on how to 
>use my Mac to connect to the HP. This would include cable diagrams,
>software, etc.

There are a couple of companies (probably more) that offer connectivity from
the Mac to the HP 3000 for terminal connect over the LAN.  You might try
Tymlabs or Walker Richer & Quinn (aka WRQ) for possible solutions.

Steve Bunten
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:10299 comp.sys.sgi:13535
From: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: has anyone configured a printer on an SGI to accept HP requests???
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:05:30 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

i configured the SGI (the host w/ the printer) using hosts.lpd, lpd -l
printcap and lprtolp and all that and set up the printer using the menu tools
on the HP and

what happens is the jobs gets spooled to the SGI but never enters the queue
if i use the lpr facility on the SGI locally the only difference i see are
that the control file (c*) have some different entries in them; remote
printing from the HP to a VAX works fine (i didn't expect that!)

its sooooooo close - because the files are being spooled over they just
won't go into the queue!

	fish
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From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:02:16 GMT
Subject: Re: X Windows on 9000/710
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>     This may be a FAQ:
> 
>     It seems that our newly arrived HP workstations aren't quite completely
>     ready for X programming.  I'm not completely sure what we're missing, but
>     it appears like many, many header files.  Common problem?  What's the 
>     fix?


Yow! Yes, it's common, and the fix is to... (never mind).

You need to get the developer's bundle that includes the "real" C
compiler and X header files and archive libraries.

Sorry I can't provide part numbers. Anyone else?

			-- Chan Benson
			HP Fort Collins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: c0033013@ws.rz.tu-bs.de (Axel Brandes)
Subject: Strange problems with /bin/ksh as login shell
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Computer Centre (NAP), Germany.
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:13:32 GMT


We are using the Korn Shell as login shell quite a long time. Now we
get a very strong behaviour:

  After the login procedure is made (successfully!) the Korn Shell
  refuses to generate a command line prompt. And what is more, you
  can't kill the process running the Korn Shell.

We tried other Login Shells (sh, csh, bash) - no problem at all. But
when you simply type 'ksh' to invoke a Korn Shell as sub shell - you
do not get a prompt, and you cannot kill the corresponding process.

The 'zombie processes' running the strange Korn Shells do not generate
any load on the machine - so they may be some other kind of stuff ...

Our configuration is quite complex (140 HPs: 400s, 700s, several mixed
clusters running HP-UX 8.0 + 8.07). So before I post some details:

Has anyone a guess (maybe a reference) for this shell behaviour? The
what string of /bin/ksh is:
	/bin/ksh:
	        Version 11/16/88
        	 $Revision: 66.116.1.1 $

I'm looking forward to anyone with some ideas ...

Thanks
	
 
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From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: modify the value of variables in XDB
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:44:06
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.116
In-reply-to: ghsu@critical.nswc.navy.mil's message of 14 Sep 92 14:44:50 GMT

ghsu@critical.nswc.navy.mil writes:

> The subject says exactly what I want to do.

> dbx has
> "assign" to do that.   How is it done for xdb?

Use the 'p' (print) command to evaluate an assigment expression:

	> p foo = bar + strlen(x.y->z.string) * 5

As you can see, you also use the print command to make function calls.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:10173 comp.unix.admin:4946
From: herberj@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (John Wesley Herberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.admin
Subject: 3rd Party SCSI Drives
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:06:21 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


We have a HP 9000/807 & would like to purchase another SCSI disk.  I'd
appreciate to hear from others that are using 3rd party disks & their opinions
of the disk(s).  I'm interested in such factors as cost, performance,
installation, maintenance, etc.

Please e-mail me.  If there's enough interest, I will post a summary.

Thanks,

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From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Problem with new Sept. 1992 LaserROM CD
Keywords: LasserRom, CD
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:13:49 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

My 09/92 CD works fine.  You probably need to /etc/update the LaserROM software
from the new CD.  HP changed database formats/compression sometime earlier this
year, and if you're still running 12/91 (or earlier) software it's probably
quite confused.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: milburn@vision.postech.ac.kr (John Milburn)
Subject: Re: Problems with Spice on HP Workstations
Reply-To: milburn@vision.postech.ac.kr (John Milburn)
Organization: POSTECH, Pohang, Korea
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 06:56:11 GMT

In the referenced article warren@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Warren Yamauchi) writes:
> We have compiled Spice3e2 on our HP 9000 Series 400 workstations. Spice
> compiles with no errors and runs fine when not used with X windows. When
> used with X windows, two carriage returns are needed before Spice
> starts processing a command. Has anyone experienced this problem?
> The HP workstations are runing HPUX 8.0 and X11R4. 

I've got the same problem with 3e2 on an 8.07 s700 using X11R5 libraries.
If I track it down, I'll let you know.

-jem
John Milburn - Pohang Accelerator Laboratory
Pohang Institute of Science and Technology (POSTECH)
Pohang, Korea           milburn@vision.postech.ac.kr
From: pagels@cs.arizona.edu (Michael A. Pagels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Bug in gcc 2.2.2 -- ARGW4
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:14:11 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

The following code:

lookMACROINST(xl, yb, ro, sx, sy, la, st)
        int xl, yb, ro, la;
        double sx, sy;
        char *st;
{
}

generates error:

as: /usr/tmp/cca19691.s @line#14 [err#1025]
  Unrecognized keyword - ARGW4

due to the following:

.EXPORT lookMACROINST,PRIV_LEV=3,ARGW0=GR,ARGW1=GR,ARGW2=GR,ARGW3=FR,ARGW4=FU,RTNVAL=GR

assembly line.

This is on a 720.  As I do not yet have an assembly manual, does
anyone have a gcc 2.2.2 fix?


Thanks in advance!

Michael
From: shengj@acf3.nyu.edu (Jia Sheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Building X11R5 Xserver --- HELP!
Keywords: Xserver
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:01:59 GMT
Organization: New York University

Hi,
Anybody knows how to build Xserver(X) from mit X11R5 source? I don't see any
HP related files in mit/server/ddx.
--
Jonathan J. Sheng
Theoretical Chemistry, NYU
(212)998-8439
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, jmd@wrkgrp.COM (Joseph M DeAngelo) writes:

> I am trying to statically link a C program on an HPUX 8
> for use on an HP/UX 7 system.  Even though I use -Wl,-a,archive
> on the cc command, I still get a dld.sl requirement.

Are you sure?  I used to do this all the time.  Since there was no 7.0 on the
700, I assume you are talking about either 300/400 or 800.  There is no way
this should happen on the former (assuming the "-Wl,-a,archive" was placed
before any libraries), but as far as I know, it shouldn't on the 800 either.
It should work.  What system are you on, and what is the failure mode?

That said, what you are doing is not supported, and in general is not a good
idea.  There are several differences between 7.0 and 8.0 that are reflected in
the respective libc.a's, and even programs built with archive libraries on 8.0
might not work right on 7.0.  Certainly you have to be careful not to use 8.0
features like >60 open file descriptors, but even when using only 7.0
functionality, the internal implementation may have changed between 7.0 and 8.0
such that the 8.0 implementation might not work on 7.0.  Certain aspects of
networking fall into this category - several libc networking functions that
have been around "forever" were changed to use some new (for 8.0) BSD 4.3
system calls that did not exist on 7.0; programs that call these networking
routines and are linked with the 8.0 archive lbic will dump core ("Bad system
call") if run on 7.0.

You are much better off maintaining a 7.0 system on which to build programs you
intend to run on 7.0, or insisting your programs be run on 8.0 or later.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms