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From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: Just a thought...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 22:13:44 GMT

In article <Sep.4.17.12.51.1992.2511@remus.rutgers.edu> wapitten@remus.rutgers.edu (William Pittenger) writes:
>
>	I have a question for everyone.  This question has been asked
>in many different forms for many years, but I am interested in what us
>fans think, not the "experts".   Ok here is it:
>	If you were a manager or GM and you only had these two
>choices, no if, ands, or buts, or conditions, but just the choice of
>having a team that had excellent pitching and terrible hitting, or
>terrible pitching and excellent hitting.  When I say excellent, I
>mean, as a team their stats and performance are in at least the top 3
>in the league and terrible would bew just the opposite, the bottom 3
>in the league.  There is no mixture and no changes.  It would be like
>having either a team from 1968 or a team from say..1930...meaning
>either all pitching, no hitting, or all hitting and no pitching.
>	I would be interested in hearing what every one thinks.  What
>is just "kind of" the tip of the iceberg, would be that thought that
>if you had a pitching team that you would not let up many runs, but
>you wouldn't score much either and similar with hitting meaning that
>you would score a lot but give up a lot too.  Maybe it would be asking
>you: what do you think is more important to a winning team...pitching
>or hitting?
>
>I'm looking forward to your responces,
>
>-Bill P.
>wapitten@gandalf.rutgers.edu
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Douglass Library GAL             
>Site Manager RUCS-US                         wapitten@gandalf.rutgers.edu
>Rutgers, The State University of New Jersey         
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If I were interested in winning more games, then I would take the 
excellent pitching staff over the excellent hitting team.
But, in this exact situation that you describe, I would take the better
hitting team.
I don't think either team will win enough to make the playoffs, or even
be in a pennant race consistently.  Therefore, i would sacrifice the few
extra wins for more offense because fans are more likely to come watch a
mediocre team that hits well.  At least the offense would be a bigger draw
to crowds.  While a true fan appreciates a well-pitched game, the average
fan would rather see his team lose 14-12 than 3-2.  He thinks he got his
money's worth that way.
IMHO, of course.
Jason Gische
From: lbr@holos0.uucp (Len Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Real-life rulebook trivia
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:45:11 GMT
Organization: Holos Software, Inc.

In article <GRABINER.92Sep13171726@zariski.harvard.edu> grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner) writes:
>
>There is a runner on first base with nobody out.  He goes with the
>pitch, and the batter hits a drive to deep left-center.  The runner has
>already rounded second when the center fielder makes a running catch.
>The ball is thrown to the second baseman, who relays it to the
>shortstop, with the runner still between second and third.  The
>shortstop steps on second base and then throws to the third baseman, who
>tags the runner.  Who gets the putout?
>
>Answer...
>A runner forced to return while the ball is in play must touch all bases
          ^^^^^^
>in reverse order; thus, he is required to touch second.  Since he left
                               ^^^^^^^^
>second base before the catch, he is out when the shortstop tags the
>base; the third baseman's tag is irrelevant.

Gee, I sure doubt this.  I score this 8-4-6-5.

I see nothing in the rulebook that would allow an appeal at second base
on this play (presuming that the runner hadn't missed the base as he
rounded it).

I think you have made the common mistake of confusing a force out with
an appeal play.  You say the runner is "forced to return", but in fact,
he is not "forced" as in "force-play."  He is forced only in the generic
sense of "forced" meaning "required."    This distinction is important here.
The defense may appeal at first base to have him called out if
he doesn't return to first base, but this is an appeal play, not a force
out.

Yes, he must touch second base and proceed to first.  If he misses
second base on the return path he can be put out on appeal at second
base.  But he cannot be "forced" at second base.  (The catch removed
the force at second. :-))
From: sullis@RPI.EDU (Sean C. Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: REPOST:  Information on MLB Stadiums
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:31:34 GMT

==============================
MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STADIUMS
==============================

[Note:  this information is current
        as of the 1992 baseball season]

TEAM                      STADIUM NAME       CAPACITY
-----------------------------------------------------
Atlanta Braves            Fulton County      52,007
Baltimore Orioles         Camden Yards       47,000
Boston Red Sox            Fenway Park        34,142
California Angels         Anaheim            64,593
Chicago Cubs              Wrigley Field      38,710
Chicago White Sox         Comiskey Park      44,702
Cincinnati Reds           Riverfront         52,952
Cleveland Indians         Cleveland          74,483
Detroit Tigers            Tiger              52,416
Houston Astros            Astrodome          54,816
Kansas City Royals        Royals             40,625
Los Angeles Dodgers       Dodger             56,000
Milwaukee Brewers         County Stadium     53,192
Minnesota Twins           Metrodome          55,883
Montreal Expos            Olympic            43,739
New York Mets             Shea               55,601
New York Yankees          Yankee             57,545
Oakland Athletics         Oakland Coliseum   47,313
Philadelphia Phillies     Veterans           62,382
Pittsburgh Pirates        Three Rivers       58,729
St. Louis Cardinals       Busch              56,227
San Diego Padres          Jack Murphy        59,022
San Francisco Giants      Candlestick Park   62,000
Seattle Mariners          Kingdome           57,748
Texas Rangers             Arlington Stadium  43,521
Toronto Blue Jays         Skydome            50,516


---
-Sean Sullivan
 sullis@rpi.edu
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Joel Zuhars)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Defensive Positions and Offensive Contribution.
Summary: Let me get this straight...
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:35:13 GMT
Organization: Ignore Roger Maynard Club (Kirsch Division)

Mike Fester writes:
>I'll say this slowly; NOBODY HITS AS A SHORTSTOP. You get NO extra credit for 
>your OFFENSE as a SHORTSTOP. NONE. A hit is a hit whether it comes from a 
>firstbaseman, a DH, or a right fielder. Period. In evaluating an offense,
>you use OFFENSIVE statistics, NOT a players' DEFENSIVE position.

What about when evaluating a PLAYER, which is what you've been doing
here?  

Are you going to tell me that if you have two players with identical
offensive stats and ages, say .300/.400/.500, and one is a SS while
one is a LF, it doesn't matter which one you take?

Mike...Your propensity for arguing is fine.  You really seem to enjoy
it, and I think that's great.  But do you REALLY believe this, or are
you simply trying to eliminate any remaining credibility?

My premise is simple: A shortstop who produces 100 runs in a season is
a HELL of a lot more valuable than a LF who does.  Why?  Because it's
easier to find quality replacement for the left fielder.

>If this
>seems unclear, see Bill James' Abstracts (in particular, his historical 
>abstract) for a more complete explanation.

I've seen you say this a lot, and misinterpret James a lot.  See also
spectrum, defensive, for details.

>And next time, please read more carefully; I pretty clearly wrote this in 
>regard to the Tiger offense, as seen by "How did a guy with lower OBP *AND* 
>lower SLG contribute MORE to his team's offense?" Clearer now?

Allow ME to answer this, then.  Joe Shmoe, noted Shortstop, is about
2.5 runs per 27 outs better than a league average SS.  Fatt Butt,
noted RBI monger and first baseman, is 2.0 runs better per 27 outs
than a league average 1B.  If Shmoe is out for the season, the
offense, relative to league average, will suffer more of a drop than
if Butt were out.

More or less.


-- 
*   Gary Huckabay   * 'And I remember the day when I saw the mask on my *
* "Favorite Player: *  face.  And I knew that it was time to put the    *
*     Gord 'OBP'    *  thing in its place.' - S. Alderson.              *
*      Niguma."     * 'This is WORSE than acquiring Lansford.' - GH.    *
From: fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: CUB'S MADDUX EASY CHOICE FOR CY
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:47:47 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <Graham_Sloan.082y@abcd.Houghton.MI.US> Graham_Sloan@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Graham Sloan) writes:
>You're argument is good, but if we're going to give the Cy Young to the ace
>pitcher on a division leading ballclub, what's the point? Let's look at who
>is actually the best PITCHER, not winner, ERA, strikeouter, etc. but the
>whole package. 

Hmmm...I always thought that a pitchers job was to win ball games, so now
wouldn't the best pitcher be the one that helped the team win the most...
I guess 19 in a row is just luck and good run support.

- MeatHead
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Re: GET OFF THE BANDWAGON!
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:22:53 GMT

I wrote:
>> Please DON'T renew your season tickets, so that someone who
>> wholeheartedly supports the ** A's **, even when they feel things are
>> not going in the direction they would like, can have them.

Russ Smith responds: 
> I guess this is where we disagree, I don't condone blind faith in 
> anything.

I'm not condoning "blind faith" either (if that is even really an  
applicable term to use for fan loyalty). My posting reflected my  
frustration as a long time A's fan. My frustration at the people who  
"rooted" for the A's once they became winners. Perhaps this does not  
describe you...but your post, a seeming withdrawal of support because of  
the trade of one player which you saw as ending that winning era, came  
across as such. 



>> OAKLAND A'S FAN **CONTINUOUSLY** since 1977!!! 
> Beat ya by 2 years Jeff!

Tell me something....if you've really been a loyal A's fan continuously  
since 1975, your loyalty survived Charlie Finley's swift destruction of  
the A's dynasty. Why can't it survive the trading of Jose Canseco? 


> Hell I even had a Shooty Babbitt poster in my
> room as a kid, top that.

How about a 1978 program autographed by such A's "legends" as Joe Wallis,  
John Henry Johnson, and Dell Alston.

Actually, Mack "Shooty" Babbit is a poor choice for illustrating loyalty  
during the A's lean years (if that is what you were trying to do), since  
the only year he was on the A's was during their 1981 division  
championship campaign.


- Jeff
 
--
------------------------------------------------
Jeff Heilner
Motorola SPS - Tempe, AZ 
Email: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (NeXT)
*** A'S *** SHARKS *** WARRIORS *** RAIDERS ***
From: sam@terapin.com (Sam Lewit)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: AL and NL differences
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:01:01 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <Bu8H9y.4xI@math.uwaterloo.ca>, alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex
Lopez-Ortiz) writes:
>I only know of one difference between the AL and the NL rule book:
>
>-Designated Hitter
>
>But I've been told that there are many others, so the question is:
>Which are the top 10 (or 20) differences between the rules of the
>American and the National League?

One I know of offhand is the number of people allowed to visit the mound. The
NL has no such limit while the AL is allowed I believe a total of 4? Check it
out... you'll see half the time visit the mound sometimes, but rarely in the AL
(although I have seen more than 4 on a couple of occasions).
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From: palmer2@sscl.uwo.ca (The Econoclast)
Subject: Jim Acker Pitch-Alike Contest - Update
Organization: The Economics Institute for Journalists
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:13:34 GMT

	As we near the end of the 1992 season, the contestants in the
JAckPAC are beginning to do some nail-biting, watching the leader
board to see which pitcher will give up the most home runs per nine
innings pitched AND have pitched 80 innings by the end of the season.
From yesterday's Baseball Mostly-Weekly, here are some of the top
candidates:

Name		Team  ip     HR  HR/9ip

Kyle Abbott	Phil  121    18  1.339  the only NL contender
Scott Aldred	Detr   56.7  12  1.905  strong candidate; can he get the ip?
Jack Armstrong  Clev  146.7  20  1.227  pretty much out of the race
Ricky Bones     Milw  138.7  24  1.557  needs to work on his control
Dennis Cook     Clev  123.7  24  1.746  one of the heavy favourites
Rich DeLucia    Seat   67.7  11  1.462  coming on strong
Chuck Finley    Cali  169.7  23  1.220  fading after a strong start
Ted Frank	ChiL   79    13  1.481  almost enough ip but short on HR
Jimmy Key       Toro  180    23  1.150  shutting out KC hurt him
Eric King       Detr   55.3  10  1.627  time on the DL makes him a long shot
Ben McDonald    Balt  188.3  30  1.434  Too many ip despite the HR lead
Dave Otto	Clev   80.3  12  1.345  An outside chance
Scott Sanderson NYY   175.3  25  1.284  slipped badly after the early lead
Joe Slusarski   Oakl   76    15  1.776  a true Acker emulator
Dave Stewart    Oakl  166.3  22  1.191  no longer a viable candidate

	The Jim Acker Pitch Alike Contest [JAckPAC] was initiated in
February, 1992, to pay homage to the amazing talent Jim Acker showed
in 1991, giving up 16 home runs yet being allowed to log more than 80
innings-pitched. His being brought on to face Jose Canseco with the
bases loaded, only to yield an impressive neck-snapper, catapulted
him into international prominence for his talents late in the 1991 season.

	Entrants were asked to predict who in 1992 would give 
up the most home runs per 9ip and have the staying power that Jim
Acker had last year despite his gopher ball tendencies. 

	The winner of the contest will receive a polo-type shirt from 
The Economics Institute for Journalists (retail value, $19.95 Cdn). In
addition, the winner will be invited to attend an award ceremony and 
banquet in London, Ontario, along with Jim Acker, the winning pitcher,
and other year-end leaders, all at their own expense. The organizers 
of JAckPAC thought meatball subs might be nice. 

-- 

  Regards,

  John Palmer      London, Ontario     Voice: (519) 661-3533     FAX: 672-3185
  reply to palmer2@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca    The Economics Institute for Journalists
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From: nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim)
Subject: Re: RC/27 for 1Bs
Organization: Fordham University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:19:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: mary.fordham.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep5.015853.16383@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu) writes...
>NATIONAL LEAGUE
>Fred McGriff, San Diego		9.13
>John Kruk, Philadelphia		8.76
>Will Clark, San Francisco	7.36
>Mark Grace, Chicago		7.16
>Hal Morris, Cincinnati		6.06
>Sid Bream, Atlanta		5.88
>NL AVERAGE			5.34
>Jeff Bagwell, Houston		5.30
>Eddie Murray, Los Angeles	5.01
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
No, Eddie went to the Mets for over $7million for 2 years. 

>Brian Hunter, Atlanta		4.96
>Eric Karros, Los Angeles	4.93	; ROY?  ROY?
      ^^^^^^                              ^^^
Maybe ROY; depends on comparison to rookies at other positions, not on 
conmparison to veteran 1B'ers.  
Note Eric only 0.08 below the highly paid veteran that he replaced.  And he
will get better (IMO), while Eddie inevitably gets slower as he ages.  
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard Nissim, notorious Dodger fanatic     (nissim@mary.fordham.edu)  
Disclaimer:  "I speak only for myself."   
World Championships:  Brooklyn-----1955   
                      Los Angeles--1959  1963  1965  1981  1988
Currently 54-80   .403;  this is worse than any Dodger winning percentage 
for a season since 1912.  (1912!  My father hadn't been born then, and I'm 
older than Eddie Murray.)  
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


>Orlando Merced, Pittsburgh	4.36
>Tim Wallach, Montreal		3.61
>Andres Galarraga, St. Louis	3.09
>
>[AMERICAN LEAGUE deleted]
> 
>===============================================================================
>GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
>===============================================================================
>Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu)
Subject: RC/27 for SS'
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 08:23:57 GMT

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Barry Larkin, Cincinnati	7.24
Spike Owen, Montreal		5.84
Ozzie Smith, St. Louis		5.22
Jeff Blauser, Atlanta		4.98
Jay Bell, Pittsburgh		4.66
Jose Offerman, Los Angeles	4.45
Tony Fernandez, San Diego	4.23
Rey Sanchez, Chicago		3.99
NL AVERAGE			3.98
Royce Clayton, San Francisco	3.43
Dick Schofield, New York	3.29
Rafael Belliard, Atlanta	2.18

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Travis Fryman, Detroit		5.43
Pat Listach, Milwaukee		5.38	; my choice for ROY
Randy Velarde, New York		5.33
Omar Vizquel, Seattle		5.10
Jeff Huson, Texas		5.10
Mike Bordick, Oakland		4.95
Craig Grebeck, Chicago		4.94
Andy Stankiewicz, New York	4.48
Cal Ripken, Baltimore		4.37	; and falling; Streak?
Dickie Thon, Texas		4.30
Mark Lewis, Cleveland		4.18
Manuel Lee, Toronto		4.17
AL AVERAGE			4.11
David Howard, Kansas City	3.66
Greg Gagne, Minnesota		3.65
Walt Weiss, Oakland		3.43
Gary DiSarcina, California	3.07
Luis Rivera, Boston		2.82

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: RC/27 for 2Bs
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 05:46:52 GMT

NATIONAL LEAGUE			RC/27	"VALUE"
Ryne Sandberg, Chicago		6.82	3.24
Craig Biggio, Houston		6.18	2.64
Delino DeShields, Montreal	5.99	2.31
Robby Thompson, San Francisco	4.87	1.10
Bill Doran, Cincinnati		4.65	0.70
Luis Alicea, St. Louis		4.47	0.46
NL AVERAGE			4.46
Mariano Duncan, Philadelphia	4.44	0.35
Mickey Morandini, Philadelphia	4.38	0.55
Willie Randolph, New York	4.30	0.46
Lenny Harris, Los Angeles	4.04	0.22
Mark Lemke, Atlanta		3.79	0.23
Kurt Stillwell, San Diego	3.31	-0.10
Jose Lind, Pittsburgh		2.80	-0.56

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Roberto Alomar, Toronto		8.14	4.20
Lou Whitaker, Detroit		7.44	2.68
Carlos Baerga, Cleveland	6.05	2.42
Chuck Knoblauch, Minnesota	6.03	2.28
Lance Blankenship, Oakland	5.70	0.91
Keith Miller, Kansas City	5.51	0.94
Mike Bordick, Oakland		5.00	0.71
Scott Fletcher, Milwaukee	4.90	0.76
AL AVERAGE			4.58
Mark McLemore, Baltimore	4.40	0.28
Luis Sojo, California		4.36	0.40
Pat Kelly, New York		4.18	0.38
Jody Reed, Boston		4.12	0.50
Harold Reynolds, Seattle	3.94	0.31
Steve Sax, Chicago		3.53	-0.04
Jeff Frye, Texas		3.31	-0.09
Al Newman, Texas		3.14	-0.16
Jim Gantner, Milwaukee		3.13	-0.18
Billy Ripken, Baltimore		2.97	-0.39

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: TW.N82@isumvs.iastate.edu (BOB.PEDERSEN)
Subject: Owners
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:25:31 GMT

I hate it when people ask for reposts, but now I have to. Serves me
right.

A week or so ago, some kind soul post a list of owners who either
voted in support of Vincent or abstained.  Could someone repost that
list or e-mail me a copy?

Thank you very much.

--
Bob Pedersen
Recent graduate and flunkie, Iowa State University
Future Library Science student, University of Iowa
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary FDA Approved Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Contract weirdness and unabashed WOOF!
Keywords: WOOF!  WOOF!
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:00:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harold Brooks Muttonchop Club (Anderson Division)

(Warren "Hey, officer!  How do you get 3 cops out of a bathroom?" Usui) writes:
>	I read somewhere that Will Clark's contract contains about 100 fairly
>normal activities (gardening, skiing, tennis, basketball) that Will Clark
>is not allowed to participate in.  Does anyone out there know the details?

Hey, how do *I* get one of these contracts?

"Kathy, I'd love to help you do the dishes, but unfortately, my
contract with UC Davis explicitly forbids me from doing so, due to the
dangers of chapped hands, and potential workers' compensation claims
arising therefrom."

"I'd *LIKE* to bathe, but unfortunately, due to contractual
obligations, I cannot commit myself to cleanliness at this time."
- G. Spira.

Woof:  Stick a fork in the Twins.  They're done.

"If Oakland wins the division, that's fine, What can we do?" 
- Kirby Puckett, September 14, 1992.

One final note: The 1992 prediction results will be posted
approximately one week after the world series is over.  Should be
intriguing.  We'll have to see who wins this year's two big awards,
the "Kreskin" and the "Enquirer."

Coming soon.


-- 
*    Gary Huckabay    * 'RBIs rank roughly below political affiliation *
*  'Watching Harold   *  and just above shoe size in terms of whether  *
*   Brooks stalk the  *  a guy can actually hit.  Hitting is more than *
*  Maxvill household.'*  just being lucky.' - T.S. Underwood.          *
From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Amazing Walk Total
Summary: Witt and wild
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:56:49 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Sep9.163158.716@hemlock.cray.com> rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson) writes:
>Earlier this year Bobby Witt pitched his 1000th inning.  He became the
>first pitcher to go 1000 innings while averaging over 5 walks/9 innings.
>Only two pitchers in history had averaged more than 4 walks/9.
Not quite.  The aforementioned Tommy Byrne averaged 6.84 walks/ 9 IP
Witt (through Labor Day) is averaging 6.12
Several pitchers have averaged more than 5 walks/ 9 IP
--------------
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From: alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz)
Subject: AL and NL differences
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:27:34 GMT



I only know of one difference between the AL and the NL rule book:

-Designated Hitter

But I've been told that there are many others, so the question is:

Which are the top 10 (or 20) differences between the rules of the
American and the National League?



Thanks in advance


Alex



-- 
Alex Lopez-Ortiz                              alopez-o@maytag.UWaterloo.ca
Deparment of Computer Science                       University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario                                                   Canada
From: sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Birthdays
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:10:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep10.171040.6417
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Baseball Birthdays

September 10
George "Highpockets" Kelly, 1895 (HOF)
Ted "Big Klu" Kluszewski, 1924
Roger Maris, 1934
Sam Hale, 1896
Barney "Yiddish Curver" Pelty, 1880
Randy Johnson, 1963

--Steve
-- 
 sgs@u.washington.edu             * 
 Steve Smith                      * "We want a pitcher, not a belly itcher." 
 University of Washington HR-20   *    			-- Bill Plummer
 Seattle, WA 98195                * 		
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