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From: Roald_Euller@rand.ORG (Roald Euller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: reserch
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:54:49 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, California


 
> 	1 Do you think there are any problems in NZ? If there are
> 	  problems, what are they? (They don't have to be economic problems.) 
> 	2 Do you have any ideas to develop NZ economy? If you have, what
> 	  are they? 	
> 	3 Are you satisfied with your life? Do you have any ideas to
> 	  live a better life?

Please forgive me, no flame intended and no criticism of the poster, but is this
the level of analysis typical of Japanese Universities?  These questions strike
me very naive.  

(Apologies if I've offended: I couldn't begin draft similar
questions in Japanese.)

-- 
  Roald Euller
  euller@wash.rand.org
From: mcsmimap@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Milford Track/Walks in NZ
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:22:43 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Hi

I have never been lucky enough to go and walk the Milford Track, but
I've got some mates who work on the track as guides and so forth, and 
they tell me they love their jobs more than anything in the world!!  So
it would seem that it is a worthwhile trip.

A walk I can tell you about is a good one day's tramp in Tongariro National
Park, in the Central Plateau region of the North Island.  You start either 
at the carpark for Ketetahi Hot Springs or from the other end at the carpark
for the Mangatepopo Hut.  I would recommend that you start at the Mangatepopo
end, as this means that you won't have to scramble up the soft volcanic slope
by Red Crater, but get to 'ski' down it instead!  The walk takes you up 
between Mt Tongariro and Mt Ngauruhoe in the Mangatepopo Valley, up over the
saddle to the south crater of Tongariro, across the crater, and up to Red
Crater (still active!!), down across the central crater, and then down to 
the Ketetahi Hot Springs, which you'll be most delighted to see...they're
wonderful.  You can stay at the Ketetahi Hut, and walk back down to the road
the next day.  If the weather's good, the sunrise is SPECTACULAR!

The best book on NZ I've found is published by an Aussie company, Lonely
Planet, and gives the traveller all the info that he REALLY wants, and
can't find in other guides.

And it's true......you won't want to come back.....


Cheers


Morag


  
  
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From: bthoms@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,rec.nude
Subject: Re: Hiking/Tramping, naturism
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:05:34 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec18.132937.3941@dxcern.cern.ch>, paul@ecpdstea.cern.ch (Paul Burkimsher) writes:
> In article <14796@cis.rand.org>, Roald_Euller@rand.ORG (Roald Euller) writes:
>> 
>> As far as other enjoyable tramps in NZ, there are many.  My personal favourite
>> for a leisurely, seaside walk is the Abel-Tasman Coastal Track -- this may the
>> most beautiful tramp I've ever taken.  You walk along the shore of Golden Bay
>> (north tip of South Island) past one absolutely stunning beach after another --
>> the only drawback is that it is quite crowded this time of year with Germans and
>> Dutch sunbathing in the nude.  Come to think of it that might not be so bad 
>> after all...
>> 
> 
> Great. Tell us more! Are there lots of beaches like this in NZ, or do NZ naturists
> just "know where to go"? Or are most becahes so thinly populated, nobody bothers you?
> Or, is nudity not frowned on anyway? 
> 
> Finally, where would I get a list of Naturist Beaches from? Also swim session details?
> Any naturist holiday campgrounds (as opposed to landed clubs)?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Paul
> 
> PS You may wish to move your reply to rec.nude.

There may be some PR value in leaving it on both BBS's. We should also do
something about centralised information on nude and CO recreation in NZ.

My experience is mostly of urban beaches, but I've also found that there are
many isolated stretches of coast where you can sun and swim nude without any
worries. Even in populated areas, people sunbathing nude in the wrong place
tend to be asked by police to get dressed, rather than arrested on the spot
(we've had a couple of useful courtcases overturning that sort of off-hand
police action).

The Free Beach Group (Inc) put out a fairly comprehensive guide to beaches used
by nudists, with limited maps and comprehensive directions. Their address is
P.O. Box 41 171 St Lukes Auckland NZ (no zipcode needed). There are only two CO
resorts, one on the east coast of the North Island called Riverlands, which
opened last year, and one near Nelson in the South Island called Mapua Leisure
Park (which has been going for some years).

I think it's worth commenting that "thinly populated" is a relative term. In
NZ, most people would think of more than a couple of dozen people on a nude
beach as a busy day - less than about 10 feet of beach to yourself is a bit
crowded: remember we're outnumbered by sheep 20 to one.

Brent Thomson, Waikato, NZ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: The recent lack of news postings
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:20:09 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

Well, folks, it's apology time. I'm afraid I just haven't had the time to
summarise the news over the last couple of weeks and I don't see me having any
more free time before I go on holiday in two days time. Thanks to all those who
have sent messages to me - far too many for me to answer individually but your
support is appreciated. I'll be back with, hopefully, regualr postings from
early January.

Alan Murray
CSC Operations
University of Canterbury
a.murray@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: t91460ny@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Naoto Yagasaki)
Subject: School Uniform
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus.
Distribution: soc
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:49:04 GMT

 Hello!! I'm a student of Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus in Japan. 

I belong to faculty of Environmental Information. 

 I'm searching into School Uniform for English class. In Japan almost all 

the junior high school students are forced to wear school uniforms and 

many high school students are forced to wear school uniform.

 I want to know whether students are forced to wear school uniform in 

New Zealand or not, and I want to know whether you think students should wear 

school uniform or not and that reason. Please send your idea to me.

 My adress is t91460ny@sfc.keio.ac.jp
From: medrh@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Richard Hockey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Racial composition of NZ
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:27:37 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

I have a request from a colleague overseas as to the racial mix of the
NZ population.  What he requires is the % Maori and Non-Maori of the
total population and for the population of AUCKLAND.
Please e-mail me direct.
TIA

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| Department of Public Health       phone:+61 9 389-3463        _--_|\        |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Info needed please  
From: Dawn_Scotting@kcbbs.gen.nz (Dawn Scotting)
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:53:17 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

I've recently had a request from a Canadian lady asking me the  
following, if there is anyone out there that can help me please email me  
with any info you may have, no matter how small. Here is her request:-  
  
  My husband and I will be travelling around NZ for about 20 days  
in Dec/Jan by car and I would love to know something about the kinds  
of crafts to look out for. I assume there is lots of fine wool available,  
but what else is NZ famous for? If you could suggest any places not  
to miss (e.g. potters in small towns, fabric shops in some of the  
cities, textile museums, etc.) I would love to know of some.  
In Canada (where I am from) there are lots of small towns that have  
local craft shops attatched to the artisans home or workshop, but if  
you don't know about them, you might just drive bye.  
Thank you for any information,  
  
(Oops, I see she said Dec/Jan, I hope I'm not too late!).  
   
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: keane@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Matthews Keane)
Subject: Looking for person on K12 Network
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 00:39:43 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

I am trying to get the EMail address for Robin Bain at the Taieri
Beach School in Brighton, Otago.  The school has access to the K12
network which I guess is run through fidonet.  Is anyone else on K12
or know what Robin's EMail address may be - a raw fidonet address is
fine - I've got the format to use that.... or is there another way
through K12.

Cheers
Christopher Keane
keane@earthsun.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Jim Bowery's offensive posting
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 21:43:31 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand
Keywords: What does have to do with soc.culture.new-zealand ??

In article <6wHqVB3w165w@status.gen.nz> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
>
>          (140 lines deleted)
>
>> -- 
>> Carl Kadie -- I do not represent any organization; this is just me.
>>  = kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
>
> 
> What does this have to do with soc.culture.new-zealand chaps? Please
> remove it from your Newsgroup: line.

It wasn't exactly relevant to soc.culture.new-zealand but I did find it 
interesting and (perhaps) useful.  Mind you I would probably have picked 
it up in one of the other groups.

Just out of interest though.

Is there a formal soc.culture.new-zealand charter?  


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Looking for person on K12 Network
From: misdcc@otago.ac.nz (Denis Gordon)
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:43:54 +1300
Organization: Dunedin City Council, Dunedin, NZ

In article <1992Dec14.003943.3792@eng.umd.edu>, keane@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Matthews Keane) writes:
> I am trying to get the EMail address for Robin Bain at the Taieri
> Beach School in Brighton, Otago.  The school has access to the K12
> network which I guess is run through fidonet.  Is anyone else on K12
> or know what Robin's EMail address may be - a raw fidonet address is
> fine - I've got the format to use that.... or is there another way
> through K12.
> 
> Cheers
> Christopher Keane
> keane@earthsun.umd.edu

Here in Dunedin K12 access is provided by one of the local FidoNet BBSs -
Southern Vortex. Robin is a user on this BBS so he should get email
addressed there.

Southern Vortex's FidoNet node is 3:770/505. If you have any problems
contacting Robin email me (misdcc@otago.ac.nz) and I'll try to
contact him on the BBS or by phone.

Good luck
Denis
From: Roald_Euller@rand.ORG (Roald Euller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Milford Track
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:25:18 GMT
Organization: The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, California

The cost of the Milford track IS high, and has been a bone of contention among NZ
outdoors types for years.  The walks are essentially guided tours -- all food and
bedding is provided, and nightly lodging is fairly luxurious by tramping
standards -- hot showers, clean, comfortable, usually in very pleasant settings,
and so forth.  You will need little more than a day pack to carry your lunch and
personal effects (don't forget raingear!).  

Originally, the Milford Track was intended to be limited to ONLY guided parties,
but protests forced the establishment of so-called "freedom walks".  These are no
less structured than the guided walks, ie - you must stay in designated huts, and
must complete the walk in 4 days (I think), however, you carry all your own food
and gear just like 'real' tramping.  Unfortunately, you must book these well in
advance, just like the guided tours -- I wouldn't count on just showing up in Te
Anau (the trail head is accessable only by water or air) and expect to do the
walk.  In fact, you state in your post that you plan on being in NZ next month
-- unless you have already booked either the guided or freedom walk you may be
out of luck.

As far as other enjoyable tramps in NZ, there are many.  My personal favourite
for a leisurely, seaside walk is the Abel-Tasman Coastal Track -- this may the
most beautiful tramp I've ever taken.  You walk along the shore of Golden Bay
(north tip of South Island) past one absolutely stunning beach after another --
the only drawback is that it is quite crowded this time of year with Germans and
Dutch sunbathing in the nude.  Come to think of it that might not be so bad 
after all...

Another really great walk which is not that well known to visitors is the Lake
Waikaremoana round-the-lake track (central North Island).  This takes 3-5 days
depending on your fitness and includes spectacular views across the Urawera
Mountains and provides plenty of opportunity for swimming in the lake.  This part
of NZ has great historical and cultural significance for the Maori, and in fact,
the lake and the track are on Maori-owned land.  When I was there last year there
was a huge family reunion taking place which involved a walk around the lake by
the entire extended family -- about 80 or 90 people in all!  Great stuff!

But these suggestions are simply my own opinion -- you can ask a dozen Kiwis and
get a dozen different answers.

Oh yes, don't forget Tongariro National Park (central North Island) -- great 
volcanic scenary.

Enjoy your trip -- you won't want to come back.

-- 
  Roald Euller
  euller@wash.rand.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: pledge@netcom.com (Alan McLachlan)
Subject: Re: Looking for New Zealand Buddies!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:16:56 GMT

In article <2225342@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
>bsorrill@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Brandi Sorrill) writes:
>> I am coming to your country and I am quite naive.  I have a friend over
>> there but I'd prefer to be a few steps ahead of him.  This will be my
>> first trip out of the states coming from San Francisco, California to 
>> Auckland.  Any advice on what to do?  I'm not a tourist type!  I enjoy
>> the outdoors and meeting good people!  Talk to me!
>
>When you land in Auckland, take the first available transport out of it.
>You won't be missing much -- Ak is just a suburb of Sydney, which in turn
>is in the 51st state of the USA (and as such is not fit for human
>habitation 8-).  Come and see NZ.
>
>--
>Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
>Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
>Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052

I beg to differ... having been born and brought up in Auckland and living
now in the states.... I find VERY few similarities to anything....

Just enjoy the WHOLE country.... you'll find new things in all parts and it
might be LESS of a shock to start with Auckland....

Xref: sparky soc.culture.new-zealand:3354 soc.culture.nordic:7990 soc.culture.pakistan:18561
From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: World Model United Nations Conference in Czechoslovakia
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:30:56 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
conference that brings together university students and young
professionals from around the globe to siimulate the workings of the
United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
March 28, 1993, through March 31, 1993, at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
Czechoslovakia.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
Czechoslovakia.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
center.  Prague is both one of the most beautiful metropoles of Europe and
an ideal location for debating current world politics and the changing
role of the United Nations.

The Hotel diplomat is a luxury resort that offers restaurants, shops, a
night club, and fitness and spa equipment.  Delegates will stay at the
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includes two meals a day.

Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
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Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-3810
UNITED STATES

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James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Split Enz to reunite
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 17:58:01 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz> writes:

> Evening Post, 9-Dec-1992
> 
>   Split Enz are getting together again.
>   New Zealand's most successful band will stage a special, one-off tour
> in March next year to celebrate their 20th anniversary.

Hmmm. Will there be the same bad feelings as were evident on their
farewell tour all those years ago.

It became painfully obvious towards the end of Split Enz' existance that
Tim and Neil can't share the spotlight. A point that was reinforced by
the recent events in Crowded House.
(Was anyone actually surprised when Tim was kicked out?)

They are both superb musicians, but being brothers doesn't mean that
they have to get along, musically or otherwise. Why does everyone insist
on seeing them together again?

Split Enz was an amazing band. That doesn't mean that the musicians who
have passed through its ranks should have to live with its body hanging
around their necks - particularly the Finn brothers.

The whole thing reeks of something that record companies and promoters
have cooked up and forced on the band to try to help make up for Tim's
less than spectacular solo album sales. (No offence to Tim, but some
of the stuff was just too maudlin for my liking, and yes, I do have all
the records....)


--
Alan Brown. (SysAdmin)
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz                      Palmerston North
Dawghaus BBS -> +64 (6) 357-9245                New Zealand
       "A wet and windy place at the bottom of the World"
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Does the Kiwis in Auckland celebrate New Years eve? 
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:43:44 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec19.184741.914@news.uit.no>, sveini@mack.uit.no (Svein-Ivar Lillehaug) writes:
> Hi again,
> 
> My wife (the Canadian wondering about NZ handcrafts a few postings ago)
> and I arrive Auckland on the afternoon of the 31st. New Year
> celebrations in Tromsoe includes tons of snow, uncontrolled fireworks
> and heavy partying until next morning. 
> 
> What do the Kiwis do on this evening/night? Are there any particular
> events that we should not miss? We might be tired after 36 houres of
> traveling, but that should be no excuse to celebrate the new year
> (12 houres before the people back home).
> 
> 
> Greetings from the other side,
> Svein-Ivar

Go to Whangamata,  a beach resort on the south-east side of the Coromandel
peninsula.  Riots,  hoons,  bonfires,  bottle-throwing at the police, drag-
racing,  drunken drownings,  drugs,  unprotected sex and more.

Jonathan (who me?  Cynical?)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Milford Track
From: Geoff@equinox.gen.nz (Geoff Mccaughan)
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:14:57 +1200
Organization: Equinox Networks
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Timothy Child (tchild@autodesk.com) wrote:

>  Watch out for the Keas at the huts and the lunch spots. They can open
>  zippers in packs and will steal anything that looks like food.  One
>  woman had her money in a ziplok bag, a Kea took it thinking it was
>  food. The vegetation is lush; giant fushia trees draped with moss,
>  tree ferns and beech trees.

Keas [native mountain parrots for the uninitiated] can be a source of much
amusement, and much cursing also. They are insatiably curious, and have a
habit of swinging upside down from the guttering of huts in order to see
what's going on inside through the windows. Less amusingly they also delight
in sliding down iron roofs at the most unsociable hours. They will steal
*anything* that takes their fancy, not just food [cameras are fair game].
They will also shred anything shreddable just for the fun of it.

My mother recounts seeing a Kea trudging purposefully along the Otira
railway station platform and off into the bush clutching a railways cup in
its beak.

Caution is well merited around Keas, their claws are sharp, and they have a
very powerful beak, and they can be a pain at times, nevertheless they are
completely protected, so don't molest them.

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