HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: memorial wishes
Date: 28 Aug 1992 18:30:40 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <wood.715006191@jfred> 
wood@siemens.com. (Jim Wood) writes:

[Summary to date: Robert Coren suggested that we read George
 Eliot's _Middlemarch_.  I wrote that I'd rather die than
 read it again.  Robert wrote back that we'd probably do well
 not to discuss literature with each other, to which I responded
 that perhaps it's just the Victorians we should steer clear of
 in our conversation.  Robert then observed that George Eliot
 "was one of the keenest observers of the human character to
  come along in any era, and that _Middlemarch_ is a masterpiece".]

> Getting into the disagreement, I agree with Robert.  "Middlemarch" is
> definitely worth reading, whatever the effort, for the character
> development and social commentary.  It's very long but absorbing.
>
> "Middlemarch," however, is the quintessential English Victorian novel,
> sprawling in scope yet very detailed in nature.  One of the qualities
> it shares with so many other Victorian novels is that it is a love story
> told from the viewpoint of a woman.

I wouldn't dream of disparaging George Eliot's keen eye, nor would
I wish to deny that _Middlemarch_ is a masterpiece.  I'm glad I read 
_Middlemarch_ (less glad that I've also read _Daniel Deronda_, _Silas 
Marner_, and _The Mill on the Floss_), but I think I would rather die
than reread it.  And let's not start in on Dickens <shudder>.  But I'm
game for a discussion of, say, Laurence Sterne.

Arne

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: BANK OF AMERICA changes mind on Boy Scouts!
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:17:31 GMT


In article <260236@peregrine.peregrine.com> trey@peregrine
(Trey Chapman) writes:

>We called BofA and indeed they have changed their policy to again support
>the Boy Scouts. When asked why, they stated that this was the sam policy 
>that Wells Fargo Bank had also agreed to. [...]

>We then called Wells Fargo Bank. They stated that no matter what BofA had
>stated that they HAD NOT changed their opinion on support of the Boy
>Scouts. They were STILL NOT going to support them until they changed their
>policy on discrimination.

Good for you.  Great work.

And good for WFB.  Boo hiss BoA (and BSA).

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From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: Redefining masculinity
Date: 24 Aug 92 17:45:49 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.




/(me)
/>So far, everything I have seen says otherwise, though.


/(anderson, the human mosquito buzzing in my ear)
/The flashlight, seeing light in every direction it looks,
/concludes there is light everywhere.


As I said, anderson, if I said the sky was blue you'd insist
it was green just to pick a fight.  

You're entirely one-track; discussion isn't fun for you if it 
isn't confrontational.
Or if it doesn't provide you a soapbox from which to perform
oratory for your audience.






Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: British spellings
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Aug31.191506.22264@microsoft.com> <1992Sep1.070241.6928@reed.edu>
	<1992Sep1.175053.7351@osf.org>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:51:48 GMT

On Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:50:53 GMT, coren@osf.org (Robert Coren) said:

RC> In article <1992Sep1.070241.6928@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
 
> The astute reader might have noticed that I use a weird mix of British
> and American spellings. I've had people say it was sexy, and I've had
> people say it was pretentious.

RC> These reactions, of course, or not mutually exclusive. :-) I myself am
RC> partial to the chiefly British spelling "grey" -- it looks much more
RC> elegant than "gray", which seems dull. I don't mind having grey hair.

I've found that I've become incapable of telling which spelling is
which.  I've read so many British murder mysteries that both spellings
look right to me.  (I spell by pattern recognition.)  Only a
spellchecker stands between me and complete confusion.

--
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shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
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                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
From: mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Redefining masculinity
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:45:47 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.1 PL5

adolphson (adolphso@mizar.usc.edu) wrote:
> 
> A "supportive in nature" group for Grand Rapids gays in their 
> teens outlaws the use of feminine pronouns.  One imagines
> there are a few female gay teens in Grand Rapids who might
> like to refer to each other with feminine pronouns.  And what 
> does "the genderfuck thing" have to do with anything?
-------------------
What's this?  Resorting to "education and explanation"?
Maybe the heat wave's subsided in L.A.

Mike Drayton
From: black@lester.sybase.com (Christina Black])
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "fuck"
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:14:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.034423.12168@cis.ohio-state.edu>, amz@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arnold M Zwicky) writes:

|> mccawley is a great character - a scholar of incredible productivity,
|> a fabulous cook (get his Eater's Guide to Chinese Characters and learn
|> a lot about chinese food *and* the chinese language and writing
|> system) and musician, a relentless and uncompromising champion of
|> political and sexual liberty, and a delightful person.  ok, not
|> family, not Queer, but as queer as you could want.

He and his _Eater's Guide to Chinese Characters_ are one of the subjects
of _Third Helpings_, a fun and funny book about eating by Calvin Trillin,
third volume in the Tummy Trilogy, the first two being _Alice, Let's
Eat_ and _American Fried_, all, alas, out of print.  See, however,
_Travels With Alice_, still in print, and some of the funniest travel
and food writing I've seen.  

-- Chris
black@sybase.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: Question about Microsoft Corp.
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:06:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.032709.19749@menudo.uh.edu> elee74l@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>Talk about stocks, whatever happened to Micsft?

Sarvr.

--
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  "... if you want to try to teach pigs to sing, do it via email.  If, 
   instead, you prefer roast pig, set the flamethrower to 'carbonize' 
   and get it over with quickly."  --Bob Lodenkamper
From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Upcoming Libertarian Gala in SF
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:00:02 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: kane@buast7.bu.edu

=====================================================================
Article: 15610 of ca.politics
From: GA.JRG@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Subject: correction - Grand Opening - Genis for U.S. Senate HQ
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:42:34 GMT

         Grand Opening - Genis for U.S. Senate Headquarters

                Thursday, September 3, 1992, 7-9 pm
                         1806 Market Street
			^^^^^^
                      San Francisco, CA  94102
[...]
=====================================================================

It would be amusing is some of the Libs popped next door for a bit...

;)

Brian
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From: phi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Steven Mancini)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Sim is OK!!
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:55:39 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) cavorts:
>In article <3448@ra.nrl.navy.mil> julie@hood.nrl.navy.mil
>(Julie Hood) writes:
>>I just spoke to Sim and he and his home are in tact.
>>No electricity yet but his bunny is fine.

>Good news about Sim & David.  I hope the rabbit's OK too.
>:-)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  That's Good!  I love it! 

Anyway, it's good to hear the news....(*I can breathe again*)
Patrick
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: Question about Microsoft Corp.
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:32:50 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson):
> What's the matter, Jake?  Is Sargon just too *butch* for you?

well, i'd rather read than play poker *or* watch movies, darling.
-- 
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
Queer Without A Cause!
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: soc.motss statistics for August 1992
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:12:52 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <2aa505ba@ThreeL.co.uk> jf@threel.co.uk (John
Fisher) writes:

>Soon every queer in the *world* will know who I am, and bars
>will fall silent when I enter.

They already do.

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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Too straight looking to be gay??? (was re: UNGAY GAY)
Date: 28 Aug 1992 15:41:05 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <vanyel.715034438@camelot> 
vanyel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Williams) writes:

> Try reading *all* my posts.  You might learn something.

I'd rather reread _Middlemarch_.

Arne
From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Re: The Stockholm Syndrome
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 92 23:20:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <65148@cup.portal.com> <1992Sep3.013507.22933@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>

>Bravo, Frank!!!!!!!!  (or should that be "Brava!!!!!!"?
>Noone could have said it better!!

>Jim

Hey, man, I'm strictly a *Top* *Butch* *Stud*, and no kissing on the lips.

Unless you're really, really cute.

Or really, really muscular.

Or really, really short.

Or really, really cute and short and muscular.

Oh, just drop and give me ten, Soldier!

;-)

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Prediction of the Republican National Convention
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:40:09 GMT

tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
:
: [re: his accuracy in predicting events at the Repugnican convention]
: 
: See I got 100% correct!  (I'm just trying to be like my role model
: GHWB and never tell the truth; remember:  Repeat your lies in enough
: forums and people will start to believe them.).
: 

Come on Tom, even GHWB can't lie that big! Tell the truth! You got most
of the predictions wrong, but it's everybody else's fault! Especially 
that cultural elite, the cabal! 


Just close, your eyes, click your heels together three times, and keep
repeating "It's not my fault!"


Kathy
From: wood@siemens.com. (Jim Wood)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ending the military band
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:53:47 GMT

brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies) writes:

>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>buckmr@aix.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>>>Scott Hays writes on Gaynet:
>>>               Opponents Expect Military Band
>>>                On Homosexuals to Fall Soon

>>Let's trumpet *that* news around before somebody tries to
>>horn in on our act; we couldn't have a clash of symbols,
>>after all.  Are you sure this wasn't on ClariNet?

>Oboe-y, more puns!  Our own military band may fall very bassoon, if we're
>lucky.  Proponents of the band are now in a real piccolo (see my related
>bugle-post), to which I say, "Tuba bad!  You can't get rid of us flutes
>*that* easily!"  Thanks to the courage of a certain (womyn) senator,
>the dogs aren't even getting thrown a trombone.

From one pianist to another pianist, how about a little sax? :-)

--
Jim Wood [jwood@siemens.siemens.com] (609) 734-3643
"Rise up on the wings of eagles, and two step among the stars.
 You are not forgotten.  Your smile will echo forever."
   -- Ryerson Schwark, to my friend Rob Bernardo.
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Last Oregon NCOD??
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 20:46:42 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I just today sent off a check for $100 to the Campaign for a
Hate-Free Oregon; I realize that not everyone is in a position to
do the same -- but if you can do something for the fight in
Oregon or the one in Colorado, *please* do so!  Either one would
be a *HORRIBLE* precedent -- the two together would be insane.

-----
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[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: psp@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (P.S. Powledge)
Subject: Re: Sarcasm
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:14:27 GMT
Summary: Mea Culpa
Keywords: Feeble faux flame fools fine folks


Ye gods! Through private email, it's come to my attention that I didn't
do a good job of making it clear that I was just kidding Nelson Minar 
in my "sarcasm" post of last week. 

The posting was meant as an over-the-top parody of all the silly flames 
that have been invading our group of late, but it apparently didn't succeed 
very well.  I certainly did not mean for a thing I said about Nelson -- 
whose soc.motss contributions I enjoy a great deal -- to be taken seriously. 
My apologies to him.


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From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "fuck"
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:43:51 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

The Joel Project: 

>the conjugation of the construction ``to fuck''.  It's a serious linguistic
> [... ]
>Any word having to do with excretion or intercourse seems to double as a swear
> [... ]

I cannot remember the origin of this (it may have been my friend Gary), but
a funny and accurate (at least for me) observation was made: when swearing,
"shit" is used for mental pain, whereas "fuck" is used for physical pain.

Which leads me to wonder: if I accidentally severed my penis, would I utter
a non-stop stream of, "shitfuckshitfuckshitfuckshitfuckshitfuck... "
-- 
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i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend

cruising: vidi, vici, veni.
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Folsom ST Fair
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 20:25:55 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep3.164541.2385@nevada.edu>

Shawn Hicks writes:
>>DO remember this for *next* year.  ;-)
>
>George, dear, have faith. I'll be there *this* year.

I didn't imply you wouldn't be; just encouraging you to plan
*way* in advance next time 'round.
 
() Decide promptly, but never give any reasons. Your
() decisions may be right, but your reasons are sure to be
() wrong.
()      -- Lord Mansfield
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[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: musical finale
Date: 23 Aug 1992 15:00:19 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

Sing me out with a Hugo Wolf recital, including at least 
the following:

"Im Fr"uhling"
"Die Spr"ode"
"Die Bekehrte" 
"Anakreons Grab"
"Ganymede"
"Nachtzauber"

Arne
From: psp@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (P.S. Powledge)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Publicity
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:28:18 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ

In article <71956@apple.Apple.COM> mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>What are you squaking about?
>About an unemployment rate of 8 percent?  No.
>About an out of control Federal deficit? No.
>About a New World Order that isn't?  No.
>About a crumbling economic infrastructure? No.
>About the sorry state of the American educational system?  No.
>About the Race Riots? No.
>About unprecedented voter disgust?  No.
>These are the issues which threaten the very underpinnings of the nation.
>The issues which affect the lives of two-hundred million people, and
>even the world.  These are the issues about which the Presidential
>debate should be.
>But what are you squaking about?
>"Family Values"
>What is Hollywood squaking about?  Family Values.  What is the Media
>squaking about?  Family Values.  What are the Democrats squaking 
>about?  Family Values.

Gee, I seem to remember that the Republicans somehow had a hand in
all this family values stuff. :^)

But I agree with your central point, Matthew: that Republicans are
using the "family values" claptrap strictly towards a political end,
and that the issue is of little importance to the majority of the
GOP.

All of which makes me very glad that I don't belong to a political
party that is so intellectually bankrupt that it finds it necessary 
to bash me and my kind in order to mask its inability to deal with
other issues.


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From: anon@anon.com (anonymous posting account)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: GOP:  The Next Generation
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:34:38 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: none

ever wonder where these republicans are coming from?  read on for a laugh.

from _The Independent Weekly_,  a free paper serving Chapel Hill, Durham,
and Raleigh, North Carolina.  Reprinted without permission.

---------
Not to be left in the dust as the family-values bandwagon rolls by, the
N.C. Federation
of College Republicans sent the following to let _The Independent_ know
just where
they stand on homosexuality--biological link or no.

A RESOLUTION CONCERNING HOMOSEXUALITY

	WHEREAS:  Homosexuality is clearly condemned by God in Leviticus 18:22 as
an "abomination."

	WHEREAS:  Homosexuals' lifestyles destroy the moral fabric that has made
this country 
the envy of the world.

	WHEREAS:  Homosexuals should be banned from the U.S. Military; should be
banned
from all marital and adoption privileges; and should be barred from careers
in the
education of American children and in the ministry of our Lord.

	WHEREAS:  The American News Media seeks to promote the homosexual
lifestyle as
legitimate, completely ignoring the moral beliefs of the vast majority of
God-fearing Americans.

	WHEREAS:  Sen. Jesse Helms has consistently represented the views of
Americans
accurately in regard to the issue of homosexual rights, while being
unjustly
criticized by _The [Raleigh] News & Observer_, the Triangle _Independent_,
and CBS news anchor Dan Rather.

	THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED:  That the N.C. Federation of College Republicans
strongly condemn the anti-American, pro-homosexual news meida, especition
the
Raleigh _News & Observer_, the Triangle _Independent_ and CBS news anchor
Dan Rather.

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From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: move to canada, eh?
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:52:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug28.163124.12641@rlgvax.Reston.ICL.COM> michelle@rlgvax.Reston.ICL.COM (Michelle Elliott) writes:
> Even if every gay alive today in the U.S. left, there would be
> more again tomorrow.  Picture those gay youths growing up without
> a single adult role model or supporter...
> 
> Earlier I said "Please Vote".  Now I say "Please Stay".
> 
> You can be male or female, butch or femme, Kinsey 6 or Kinsey 3 --
> it truly doesn't matter.
> 
>              We must *all* stand and fight.

I would say:
You can be male or female, butch or femme, Kinsey 6 or Kinsey 1 --
it truly doesn't matter.

               We must *all* stand and fight.

Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
--
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running on empty." -- Harvey Newstrom (hnewstro@x102c.ess.harris.com)
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: How evil are the Republicans?
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:08:21 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <mcmelmon-240892130730@mcmelmon.apple.com> mcmelmon@aruba.apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>My poor, feeble little mind...  It did *completely* forget about
>this string.  How kind of JA to remind me...  And what, to my glee,
>should I find but a missive from Madmoiselle du West Hollywood.

Have you considered joining that support group in Grand Rapids?
Or perhaps a youth camp with John Graves as the counselor.  Though
we might snicker at their lack of subtlety, perhaps one or the
other might do people like you some good.

Anyone who thinks that misogyny isn't rife and flourishing in the
gay male community need only read motss in the past few weeks.
It's nauseating.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: British spellings
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:21:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep3.212142.10540
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <2aa62a93@ThreeL.co.uk> jf@threel.co.uk (the esteemed John Fisher) writes:
>>I confounded Fruitbat once after several thousand gin-and-tonics by asking
>>him if he queued for the lift or stood in line for the elevator.
>>I must kerb these behaviours!
>Curb.  `Kerb' is that thing at the edge of the pavement. 

damn, I thought it was a clever reference to authentication schemes
for the various queer cards we're all carrying. Lord knows that if
anyone could be a trusted host for queer authentication, it's Fruitbat.
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                      When you expect whistles, it's flutes