HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:22:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.222359.579@halfdome.sf.ca.us>
bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <7536@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu
(Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>> bob pasker (bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us) wrote:
>> : again, not until they milk every drop of oil out of saudi arabia.  in
>> : the meantime, they'll buy up the patents of competing technologies
>> : (as has been pointed out elsewhere). 
>> :
>> Only so long as it is economically reasonable.  If someone introduces
>> new technology and it is cheaper and better the oil companies will 
>> either adapt or die.  
>
>you still don't get it.  the oilcompanies see non-petro based fuels
>as competition and they have they means and motivatio to buy up any
>patents.

They also have the means and motivation to develop any
techniques that provide economic benefits to rival those
that are now derived from petroleum.

The Saudis have a vested interest in petroleum, but the
oil companies have more freedom to make money in different
ways.

>> : about, we're arguing about why we don't have hydrogen powered 
>> : motorcycles.  i say its because advances in technology are being held 
>> : back by the oil and internal combustion machine mfgs.
>> 
>> We don't have hydrogen powered motorcycles because they aren't currently
>> practical as replacements for gasoline engined equivilents.
>
>do you know this for a fact?  or is it just what you've been told?

Bob, put up or shut up.  You announced that there's a
conspiracy to deny us hydrogen-powered vehicles.  It's up
to you to provide some factual basis for your own remarks
before you start demanding facts from others.

Unlike propane, butane, or LP gas (which are all usually
derived from fossil fuel sources) hydrogen can't be
liquefied by compressing it at ambient temperature.
This means that it's not practical to store hydrogen
in simple pressure tanks, because they'd have to be
too big to fit conveniently in vehicles.

One solution that's been used has been to adsorb the
hydrogen onto titanium at moderate pressure.  This
storage medium is heavy and expensive.  I think the
tank has to be heated to free the hydrogen for use.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
From: jwg0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN WALTER GEWARTOWSKI)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: ----> J.C. Whitney stuff ?
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:51:29 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I have ordered a limited amount of things from the J.C. Whitney (Chicago)
motorcycle catalog.  Now that my new bike (Kawasaki KZ1000B) is a more popular
one (my old was a dinosaur - 1973 Yamaha TX-750), I may be buying more options
for my bike.

How does everyone feel about the quality of J.C. Whitney stuff?  The prices
are sure good.  Did anyone ever get burned with something they bought from
them?  Is there any product I should stay away from because of poor quality?
-- 

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 Take a walk on the Wild side...Biffman
*--------------------------------------*

What kind of tires does a DeLorean have?
    Snow tires.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (The Beav)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA
Organization: BNR Ottawa, DMS Software Design
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:56:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.231253.1315@msus1.msus.edu>, pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Sep27.220135.1301@msus1.msus.edu>, stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
|> 
|> I have a Shoei RF200 in Gretchen's beautiful deep shade of blue and we look
|> mahvelous together.  Harvey's the color of an old pumpkin and I've got an
|> old Sometingorother brand black open-face helmet I wear when I ride him.
|> It'd look silly wearing anything else on such a nerdy looking motorcycle.
|> 
|> Besides, I almost never go over 40 on Harvey (commuting and grocery runs,
|> mostly) and Gretchen is for serious long distance faster riding when a full-
|> face helmet is more called for.
|> 
|> Pooder - Rochester, MN - DoD #591 - LotN

flick....
flick....
flick....
FLAME_ON

What a load of horseshit. People who first of all believe that they
must look good when they ride are too fucking vain. Ooooo, heaven
forbid the babes don't see my pretty little face while I go cruising
down the street saturday night.  Get a life. Ever since I saw the
little jerks back in high school tooling around in the parking 
lot in their t-shirts and t-shorts on the fancy-dancy new 
interceptors, I've been sickened, by these boy-men who think
that the bike is a penis extender.  I'm sure the girls were 
turned on by the same guy a week later when his face looked like
hamburger after he dropped his pretty little bike in the same
parking lot. Ooooooo, sexy.

The idea that riding around town with those groceries is safer
than out on the highway and therefore I don't need all that 
unnecessary protection is just bleedin' illogical.  In town
all those people are out to get you.  You are IN fuckin' season!
I've been hit twice by ignorant assholes who said 'I just didn't see
him'.  Both times (once, after a magnificent stoppie on the RZ) I was 
plastered across the hood and road and my fullface helmet
sufferred significant damage to the chin guard.  Both time I was
going less than 10 kilometers per hour, it's just all that 
momentum the other guy has!  On the highway, it's just so much safer;
everyone is going the same way, roughly the same speed.

The only time when I half considered taking off my helmet, was the 
44 degree celcius heat wave we had when you could have passed out
under the full face helmet (but of course I didn't pass out or 
remove the helmet). 

Get a life or remove yourself from the gene pool :-{)

FLAME_OFF
sssss....


Oooo, I've always wanted to say that!

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= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733=
= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre     =
= (-> 1994 GTS1000 ...can't afford the '93) |  mbeaving@bnr.ca              =
= Parking spaces? We don't need no steenkin' parking spaces!                =
=============================================================================
From: jnj@cci632.cci.com (John Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 0-60-0, cage vs. bike
Keywords: NO wheelies, please
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:35:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northern Telecom, Inc. - Network Application Systems


> In article <6918@transfer.stratus.com>, cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com 
>                                               (R. CraigDodson) writes:
> 
> ] It is my guess that in a drag race, the bikes have it due to greater
> ] "launchability". However, in a highway roll-on it would indeed be
> ] a close race.
> 
> Your guess is wrong.  Bikes are harder to launch, due to their
> propensity to wheelie and try to pound the rider headfirst into the
> ground.  So, no matter how you cut it, the car is toast.
A bike IS harder to launch, but done right can launch as hard or harder
than a cage.  I run low low 1.7 sec. short times (with no wheelie bars),
which are an indication of the launch.  Buck Rogers' best is 1.689 WITH
wheelie-bars.  The drag bikes I've raced against run 1.3 to 1.5 sec
(with 8 second quarter miles), where the best I've seen out of the 
Modified's is 1.5+.

John
+---------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| John Jenkins   (DOD #219) |             '89 Katana 1100                   |
| Rochester, New York       |                                               |
| Northern Telecom  NAS/CCI |     "A man's got to know his limitations."    |
| Email : jnj@cci.com	    |                - Inspector Harry Callahan     |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Subject: Re: Crosswinds
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 19:26:17 GMT

In article <4857@prcrs.prc.com> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.171413.4342@island.COM>, fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>> 
>> In short, before you flame someone, I suggest you take an introductory Ornitho-
>> logical Biophysics course. 
>> 
>
>Ok, how does a buzzard countersteer?

Is that an African or European buzzard?

-- 
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
 * (310) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
 * dana@locus.com  DoD #466 	| reflect those of my employer	*
 * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the shot!"   *
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW K Winter Storage
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:55:59 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner
From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu) writes:
!
!mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu (From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu) writes:
!!The recent cold-snap we've just had here in NY reminds me that
!!it's almost that time of the year again (sigh) and I'd like to
!!know from fellow K owners what needs to be done to my K75S for
!!its winter storage.
!
!for me winter storage consists of closing the garage door for the night
!and then a brief warmup in the morning before taking off :-)
!
!you probably didn't want any smartass responses, did you...

Actually for New York,  a hefty coat of cosmoline on the engine
to ward off the salt, some good wax on the paint, electric vest and
gloves should do the trick.

Steve
steve@zx11.cactus.org
From: aal@broue.rot.qc.ca (Alain Hebert)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:09:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Groupe de Recherche Operationnelle en Telecommunication (ROT)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

	Hi!  I'm no DoD but I wear it too...  Very helpfull like last week
	when I slide in a oil spill (from a dawn truck) and hit the pavement
	face front...  I don't think that the Dick Tracy style will fit my
	personality...

[Crash Info:	Rain and Oil spot at a intersection, was turning left, use the
		rear break to slow down smoothly to stop and turn in one move...
		(A la Quebecoise!) 30 feets to do, current speed: 20mph...
		A my rear just slide under me...  Result: $500 of right side
		scratch and a broken toe nail(?) with a couple of bruses(?)...

		It was down my street...  Funny part is that I slide 10 feets
		more than my bike...  and my bike was wearing a week old rear
		booth for the slide season...  Shit, shit, shit...  And I was
		trying to revamp that '85 VMX12N...]

	Have fun...  (And watch for blue spots)

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:08:35 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
 <1992Sep28.135727.15965@javelin.sim.es.com> <1992Sep30.224511.6728@research.nj.nec.com>
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Sep30.224511.6728@research.nj.nec.com>,
behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) wrote:
> 
> 	$2k should get you a complete semi-basket* big twin.  Some assembly
> required.
> 
> 
> *semi-basket:  some parts on the frame, some in the basket.

Hey, I want to know where in the country this is true.  I'll
buy every big twin basket you find < $2000.  Seriously, the
last one I found was < $2k was in 86 and it was a total wreck.
No heads, no cylinders, broken frame and the spool for one
wheel.  That was IT!  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Subject: Nude riding is dangerous (was Re: Risk takers)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 21:33:32 GMT
Organization: DAMN - Drunks Against Motorcycling Nude
Summary: The pictures are available
Keywords: Gifs, Nude, Bikers, Proof!

viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>
>>to take a shower, or sit in a hot tub. And just because some people
>>remove their clothes for practical reasons
>
>	Like riding a motorcycle during the evening hours, perhaps?

The proofs are here. I have 6 gifs of bikers riding without their
leathers and no easy way to distribute them. Bruce "Scanner" Tanner
muttered something about losing his job, pornography, and jail time
so they won't be on Cerritos. I can email them to anyone who wants,
just send a request. If you don't get something back from me ina
week, I didn't get your mail, or you didn't get mine. If someone
can suggest a better way to do this, let me know.

If you were there and don't want your picture distributed, let
me know NOW. No, I don't have any of Noemi. Or of Diana.

Ed, at least get some in-line roller skates.


-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Stealing bikes
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:45:03 GMT

In article <RTARAZ.92Sep27133615@starbird.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@starbird.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
|
|How do bike thieves steal bikes? Do they actually start it up and
|drive it or do they roll it up a truck and take it away.
|How easy is to break the stearing lock?

Well, if you have ever had a ratbike which decided the key didn't work,
you would know how easy it is to break the steering lock, with just a
bit of muscle, and hotwire the bike.  Not knowing what I was doing, it
took me all of about three minutes to get the bike on the road.

|And finally, is locking a bike to something helpfull? (using one of
|those locks that are make of individual strands rather that a chain)

If you have ever seen a cordless dremel tool, you would know that locks
are no match for it.  I do it all the time.

A determined thief *can* get your bike.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Feeling poorly)           |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Being bored)         |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Summary: I am posting a lot today.
Date: 1 Oct 92 06:24:52 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


In article <1992Sep29.141351.12956@eye.com> jesse@eye.com (Jesse Lackey) writes:
 |So I know some of you out there must have detectors on your bikes.  And I'd
 |sure like to hear how you did it....

I have a Whistler 5000SE on my FJ.  It has a remote antenna that fits
under my front fairing, and a remote unit I can put in my jacket (I
made an earphone for it that goes into my helmet) or on the bars (it's
small (1"x2"x3") and has a neato holder).  It works better than any
other detector I've used (Passport, Uniden RD9XL, Cobra Trapshooter).
I'd like to see how the Valentine One works on a bike, but, other than
that, the Whistler ($159 last time I checked) is a great deal.


                                              Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:07:48 GMT

>>> >A friend of mine asked me to reccommend the most motorcycle he could 
>>> >purchase for around $2000.
>
>How about a $4,500 Harley?   ...heh heh... ;-)
>-Aki
>DoD 0628

Just goes to show the addition skills of yer average Harley rider...

oh, and my picks:

Suzuki QuadRacer 250 (the ONLY Suzuki I'd Ever own)
Yamaha Blaster 200
Yamaha Banshee 350
Honda Interceptor 500
Honda NightHawk 650

 #############################################################################
#Ross Roberts (rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)|'85 IT200, '81 MX100       #
#DoD#0340, still patiently awaiting the 6ooF2...  |'88 YFM350 Warrior         #
 #---------------------4-stroke good, 2-stroke gooder!---------------------- #
                    Friends don't let friends drive Suzuki's 
#############################################################################

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Blue over blue pipes
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 11:33:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.193700.19121@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
nejohnso@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Neal Johnson) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> I have noticed that the chrome pipes on many motos are blue.  How
|> do they get that way, and how can I avoid it?  I have heard the
|> following causes, please confirm or deny:
|> 
|> - fuel mixture too lean
|> 
|> - idling stationary (if true, how long can I idle before they
|>   turn blue?)
|> 
|> Thanks for your advise.

Pull the pipes and clean them out with a good carbon
remover the clean them out with an automotive paint
prep to remove the oil/petro/contamination, after
drying spray with high heat paint (yes on the inside)
this should stop it from happening but will have to be
done every couple of years depending on how much you
ride.

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: ----> J.C. Whitney stuff ?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:08:54 GMT

jwg0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOHN WALTER GEWARTOWSKI) writes:

>How does everyone feel about the quality of J.C. Whitney stuff?  The prices
>are sure good.  Did anyone ever get burned with something they bought from
>them?  Is there any product I should stay away from because of poor quality?

	Keep away from the tires and the stereo gear unless you are willing
to accept the lowest quality stuff around, and watch out for their packaging.
I can't figure out how they decided to fold a fairing in half to ship it,
but it has happened and probably will again.

	The tires are Chen Shin, perfectly cheap and not what you want if
you push the speed limit often.  They are great for outfitting that CL-360
with, but not much else.  The stereo gear is somewhat hilarious.  I once
got a "free gift" that consisted of a 380 watt 7-band equalizer.  Fine,
where's the amp?  The thing weighs about 8oz, and might pump out 3.8
watts on a good day.  Really bogus, poor sound, fairly worthless actually.
It does make a dandy amp for the computer, but I wouldn't even put it in
my cage, let alone on my bike.  The manufacturer?  Kawasaki.  No lie!

	Anyway, expect fair fit and quality because JCW doesn't make any
of this stuff; and remember you can return whatever you don't like.  On
the other hand, it's up to you to decide if you want good stuff or the
fair generic stuff you'll find in their catalog.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
<ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee.>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Stat du jour
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 10:00:53 GMT

Roy Jaques (RJAQUES@ESTEC.BITNET) wrote:
: Nick...
: Tut,tutt,tutt Brussels to Calais via Lille ? Gent to Nieuwportthen over the fr
: ench border is much more fun. There is the lovely empty autoweg followed by the
:  bendy bit between the border posts.
: 
: Roy
: (rjaques@estcs1.dnet.estec.esa.nl)


Oh, I forgot to add that I also did go this way a few times too.  I loved 
HHHent!  Those funny little boats with the multi-lingual taped tourist spiels 
etc.


Nick (the Touristy Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069    Concise Oxford.


M'Lud.


PS Have you sent me any Email, I haven't checked my Spuddy postbox for a while.
   Perhaps we can go for a drinky sometimes..... I could do with a little
   cross-channel trip to get the cobwebs out of Kay's cylinders.

PPS My condolences re Amsterdam.  What an absolute nightmare!  I hope you don't
    have any rels there.  What a world!


Tot ziens! Dag!
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Beginner: I Want To Buy A Bike
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:32:35 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Oct6.161813.22202@ms.uky.edu>, johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:
> Now that I finally got a DoD membership, I would like to purchase a bike.  I  
> am prepared to spend about 800 dollars, unless of course that is not enough  
> to get started on.  I have seen ads in the newspapers for bikes, but how does  
> a beginner know a lemmon from a lion?  Thanks!!!

sorry, john, wrong group.  if you got your number from who i think you got your
number from, then you got a membership in the "don't i deserve?" club, as in,
"don't i deserve a bike?" your dod number, john, is not transferable to the
DoD.  once you get your bike, you'll have to start all over again. 

--
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Substitute for or rebuild of FJ fuel pump
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:25:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell) writes:
:     It sounds like your contacts are stuck together. If they are stuck

Yes, the contacts are in bad shape....but the real problem is that a spring
holding a contact has been milled away by arcing and now no longer is
stopped by it's stop, and also hangs up instead. I can see a way to repair
it, but I wouldn't trust it to be reliable for the longer trips I take.

: A capacitor added in parallel with the contacts
: will greatly extend their life. Try to find an old copy of the "Motors
: Repair Manual" at a library or used book store, the used to have a
: section on calculating the size capacitor needed based on the direction
: of metal transfer between ignition points, which applies to any contacts
: switching an inductive load.

This sounds like something useful to pursue in any case.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: victor@canrem.com (Victor Kamutzki - user account)
Subject: Re: What does "DoD" mean... ?
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:58:53 GMT

leighann@spaghetti.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey) writes:
>m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
>
>|> What is DoD? 
>
>Darkness over Dakota
>[...]
>
>Any questions?

Yeah, has anybody been keeping track of the answers that have ever been
given to this (seemingly) simple question?  Does anybody even have
enough disk space to hold a list that long??  :-)

Victor Kamutzki
DoD #0303