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From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:11:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.021440.16761@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
>In article <Bx7vxF.EJq@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>>   I also found many postings that related this incidence to racism, and
>>interestingly, most of them had your name, Phil.

>I believe you are confused. Would you care to come up with any examples?

   Have you got the result of "Average Asian vs. Average American" vote?

.....
>As I said, I am talking about racism because other people who want to
>ban guns are talking about racism. I am not drawing any connections to the
>Hattori incident.

   Please, look at the subject title. As I understnad it, this thread should
have a connection to the Hattori incident and is a place for talking about
the tragedic death of the Japanese student and what we could and should
do to avoid the next incident.

   I understand the importance of the issues of racial problem, gun control
and the relationship between these two. However, unless the Hattori incident
was caused by racism, emphasizing the racial problem under this title is
misleading at best.
 
>>If you force me to answer, the answer is, "No." Neither banning guns nor
>>distributing free guns to innocent people will eliminate violence.

>But not all violence is equivalent. A woman who kills a rapist has
>committed violence, but I do not see that as bad. A battered wife who
>kills her husband when he finally crosses the line and starts to kill
>her also commits violence but I'd rather see the innocent survive even
>if a criminal has to die.

   I thought you were talking about "criminal" violence because you seemed
to be stating that your reason for supporting the current gun control (or
non-control?) system is that a firearm in innocent people's hands can reduce
the violence. When you asked, "Can banning guns eliminate violence?",
which violence were you referring to? 

>In San Francisco, a (possibly) Asian man on a bicycle survived an
>attack on Nov 2 by THREE robbers who knocked him off his bicycle.

   I wonder why you keep saying, "possibly." Just curious.

Michiaki Masuda
From: pearl@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Shizuka Kudoh new releases?
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:51:07 GMT
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division


At the risk of posting non-flamage...

Does anyone know if Shizuka Kudoh has released a new album since
"Trinity" or if her new 1992 Concert video has been released?

If so, could someone post or email me the catalog numbers, prices,
etc.

Thanks!

Steve
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From: a7657@mindlink.bc.ca (Stephen H. Kawamoto)
Subject: Re: kanji on Star Trek TNG
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:37:23 GMT

TO> Kendo??!  Those masks can just as easily pass as hockey masks, in
TO> fact they fight like they weere in one.

SO, that's what happened to Hockey after being banned in SOL?

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From: a7657@mindlink.bc.ca (Stephen H. Kawamoto)
Subject: Re: Ftp site for Japan Pop-star?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:33:59 GMT

See the JPOP sysadmin.

 to get on the list, send mail to
 jpop-request@ferkel.ucsb.edu.

 the system will carbon you a reply

 then the sysadmin will send you a letter welcoming you with instruction.

***WARNING truncated UUENCODE text follows. Please do not attempt to
UUDECODE.
(Arigato gosaimasu. Kono mueki na tekisuto ga watashi no shikata no wakare.)

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From: a7657@mindlink.bc.ca (Stephen H. Kawamoto)
Subject: Re: movie about life of Buddha
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:12:53 GMT


Try contacting a local chapter of the Buddhist Churches of America,
specifically the head quarters in San Francisco. There are also animes of the
life of Siddhartha Gautama as well as Japanese specific themes such as the
life of Shinran Shonin (the founder of the JODO SHINSHU sect of Japanese.
Buddhism), which is the major Mahayana Buddhism practised in the Americas by
Japanese.-Americans and -Canadians.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:12:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.213846.12126@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
>I haven't seen any data on whether Peairs was well-trained or not.
>I have seen no evidence to indicate that what he did was inconsistent
>with the acts of a person who was well-trained.

It's worth noting that good training and good judgement are very different
things. The man could have easily have had as much training as a
police officer (or quite a bit more), and _still_ over reacted.
Training doesn't really address the central problem: Judging the
situation, while being afraid for one's live and family, carefully
and accurately. Police officers and soldiers (who, presumably, are
"well trained") _frequently_ make such mistakes, and either over-
or under- react.

                                                Frank Crary
                                                CU Boulder
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10466 talk.politics.guns:23891
From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:34:24 GMT
	<1992Nov10.005859.18489@adobe.com> <BxIIxw.61x@ncifcrf.gov>
Organization: Intermetrics Inc., Washington Division, USA

May we close at least one part of this discussion down?

In article <BxIIxw.61x@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov
(Michiaki Masuda) writes:

      Unless gunowners' taking education aggravates the criminal situation,
   I don't see any good reason not to make an effort to promote education.

No one objects to "promoting" education.  Everyone that I have seen
post is for it.  The only point of disagreement seems to be REQUIRING
a STATE-PROVIDIED or STATE_APPROVED course for the posession of a gun.
If you do not think this necessary, I think everyone is done.  If you
do think this necessary, please address --- directly --- the existing
practice (in some states) of refusing to approve or provide the state
course.

But in any case, EVERYONE stop repeating yourselves on this one issue.

					Dave Barton
					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10135 talk.politics.guns:23533
From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:46:35 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

In article <pa142548.398.720914051@utkvm1.utk.edu> , 
	pa142548@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer) writes 
>No "excuse" is necessary.  The facts indicate that the citizen had 
>reasonable cause to feel that he was threatened, and did not have the luxury 
>of exploring further.  He gave a verbal warning, which was ignored.  In his 
>perception, he had no choice but to shoot.

I cannot believe this posting....  A simple warning is no excuse for
the murder. How do you think if your police start gun fire with a
warning?

The murderer had many other choices, for example,
    Repeat warnings,
    Wait and see,
    Shut the door again,
    Call someone for help,
    Run away,
    Shoot something other than Hattori's body,
    Tell him not to kill me, etc...

Of course, if the murderer is in Japan and has leagal rights to have
the gun, he is guilty for excesive defense and he is not allowed to
return home immediately.

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Shinji Kono @           kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan

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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Changing names in Nippon.
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:30:52 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

So harsh, woodcock!  Come on, people, Asano's mom died, least you could give
him practical advice at the least.
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Changing names in Nippon.
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:35:43 GMT
	<1dofhvINNfc9@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Friends,

             Since the recent suicide of my mother, I have
decided(maybe) to change my name. I was thinking of Rikiya
Asano-Taguchi. Maybe this will only be presented in English. I want to
get information on the name changing procedure in Nippon.


                                ThanX 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: new newsgroup discussion
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:33:13 GMT

In article <MS-C.721414192.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> writes:
>The responses I've received to my call for a new newsgroup have been very
>positive.  There seems to be a definite groundswell to take back what was once
>a useful facility.  I'd like to solicit some opinions on what would be the
>best way to accomplish this.  I can see several possibilities:
> 1) Do nothing.

This one has my vote. 'Kill' files work very well. They have certainly cut
down on the number of infamous 'mutlu' posts in soc.history. And I really 
see no use in having two newsgroups to discuss essentially the same topics.
A couple of other problems with moderated newsgroups:

It takes more time to get an article posted.

Does anyone have in mind an IMPARTIAL moderator?

So, if you don't like a certain poster, or topic, put it in a 'kill' file,
and read what makes it through that filter. For those of you using 'rn'
who do not know how to begin a kill file, here are 2 examples.

Create a file in you home directory/News.
create a KILL file for the appropriate group, eg ~/News/soc/culture/japan/KILL

To kill all posts from a single person: 
	find the user's name in the "From" header at the top of the post
		(eg, fester)
	place the following line in the KILL file
		/: *fester@*/h:j
	quit the editor.

To kill all posts with a given general subject:
	find the word that is most commonly unique to the subject (eg, guns)
	place the following line in the KILL file
		/guns/h:j
	quit the editor

To kill all posts on a specific subject:
	get the title (you might be a little non-specific here; sometimes the
		title will change slightly) (eg, to kill the thread "Why I
		believe the Japanese have deliberately set out to destroy
		the moral fabric of our nation") 
	place the following in your KILL file:
		/ Japanese have deliberately/h:j
	quit the editor


Now, perhaps someone would care to post examples for those who are using other
readers, such as 'gnu'....

Mike
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10595 talk.politics.guns:24017
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Subject: Re: call for a new newsgroup
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: world 
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:54:28 GMT

In article <2369@usna.NAVY.MIL>
	Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil> writes:

>I posted a query at one time to Japanese readers,
>asking whether they found the debate interesting.  For what it's worth, I
>received a single positive response and no negative ones.

I guess that's because all those who were not interested didn't even
read the query you posted. On the other hand, there was only 1 person
who was interested.

>I've watched several newsgroups go through phases like this.  It will pass.

When?
It seems like a road to nowhere....

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:10534 talk.politics.guns:23972
From: PA142548@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Japanese exchange student killed in Louisiana...
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:59:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: utkvm1.PA142548.427.721504796
Organization: University of Tennessee

In article <BxIIxw.61x@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>>Mandatory education is too easy to turn into a gun ban and wouldn't
>>affect criminal misuse anyway.
>
>   Doesn't it contradict your proposal of the mandatory firearm education
>at high school?

Not at all.  He would like to see mandatory training for everyone, that 
cannot be denied or declined.  Mandatory training as a restriction on who 
can own firearms is just a tool for bans.

>>>   If the training is required by the government and the government is 
out >>>of control, they might be able to require the schools to teach the 
students>>>that the violent resistance against the authority is an 
unforgivable>>>crime under any circumstances. Didn't you mention that the 
government is>
>>They could do that now.
>
>   And are they doing that now?

Well, actually, yes.  Why?

>
>>>capable of misusing the training system?  
>
>>The kind of abuses most likely are requiring courses and not giving
>>them. The scheme I proposed avoids this by making a diploma defacto
>>evidence of competency.
>
>   ??? Do you mean that it is OK if a school does not give courses that
>the government require? 

Yes.  For example:  in California, it is now law that you must pass a 
firearms safety course before buying a handgun.  The law did not include 
funding or agencies responsible for training.  Thus, a defacto gun ban.  A 
course is required for the student, but the state is not required to offer 
it.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: a7657@mindlink.bc.ca (Stephen H. Kawamoto)
Subject: Re: call for a new newsgroup
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:42:42 GMT

i just have a kill file for subject on this matter. it's on the author who
should be ignored, it's the subject. Well... most of the time.

 "No, sorry. UUDECODE won't work on my signature."

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From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: KanjiTalk
Date: 13 Nov 1992 02:27:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

Haitong Wang <s209457@cc.gettysburg.edu> writes:

>Does anyone know whether KanjiTalk is available through FTP or not?

I doubt it since KanjiTalk is a copyrighted software program.

>I would also like to know if there is Japanese word processing software on
>Sun or NeXT.

I heard that there are public-domain Japanese language word processing
software program for Unix/Next. A friend of mine got source code
from a ftp site somewhere and was working on it several months ago.
I think you need X-windows that runs on a NeXT to use it.

Canon sells a localized version of Mach/OS (for NeXT) in Japan with
a hefty price tag.  I presume WriteNow bundled for Japanese NeXT
can handle Japanese script. Sorry for sketchy information.
I considered whether I should get a MacIIsi or a NeXT last August
and investigated how well these two platforms handle the Japanese
language. I decided on a Macintosh since I had neither time
to find public domain software programs nor sufficient
expertise to compile/debug source code. How about posting your
questions to NeXT related news group or a ftp site such as
Purdue University (don't recall exact domain names but
there are dozen NeXT related ftp sites with public bulletin board.)
From: hash@ikarac5.ctrl.saitama-u.ac.jp (Toshihiko Hashimoto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Why does LDP fear the Right?
Keywords: LDP,right-wing
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:54:19 GMT
Organization: Araki Lab., Electronic Engineering, Saitama Univ., Japan

In article <1992Nov11.170839.11734@u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>My question: What is so scary about loud trucks?

This LDP's scandal exposuing the relationship between
the politicians (not only politicians who belong to LDP) 
and yakuza is the most exciting and serious topic here
in Japan now.

LDP recently tries to accuse the judge and public
prosecutor of defamation.  The reason was that the judge 
ordered the public prosecutor to read out the record 
in the trial that the president(? I don't know what is 
the correct translation for it) of KOMINTO had answered 
about the relationship between politicians of LDP, yakuza 
and KOMINTO to the prosecutor.

Still now the reason why Mr. Takeshita was so scared
about KOMINTO has not been clarfied and it is really
what we all want to know.  But there are many rumors 
or guesses about that, and one of them is that KOMINTO
must have got some Mr. Kakeshita's secret which would
surely make him in serious trouble if it were exposed
to the public.

What's your guess, Mr. Ii?

Bye,

Toshi
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From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: call for a new newsgroup
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:29:36 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM, mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
>I think it is time for a new newsgroup, preferably a moderated one, in which
>Japanese cultural, historical, and social issues can be discussed in an
>intelligent fashion.  We can leave this newsgroup for Asano to vent his
>paranoid, racist, and historically inaccurate blather along with the gun
>flamers.
>Surely I can't be the only person who is disgusted with 150+ messages/day on
>this newsgroup, mostly trash.


I second this.  I'm getting sick and tired about shootings in Lousiana!


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From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Yoshi Hattori
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:09:34 GMT
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.

The death of this young man is a true tragedy, which is exasperated by the
distortions, lies, misunderstandings and racism that has been expressed by
various persons posting articles. There are many things that we do not know
about this tragedy and a few things that we do know.

1. The shooter has expressed great regret and remorse, even wishing that
   the gun had misfired and blown off his own hand. (This does not sound
   like an evil , hate filled violent person)

2. The police did not arrest him , but the case was referred to a grand
   jury. It is up to the grand jury to assess the evidence and to decide
   which charges to indict him on. These charges could run from murder to
   manslaughter to a weapons charge (like Bernard Goetz) or to no indictment
   at all. We can draw some inferences from the police's lack of an arrest,
   that there are complicating and perhaps mitigating factors. We will find
   out eventually, but it is good that the man will be tried in the courts
   and not in the press and especially not online.

3. Guns... There are some 20 million firearms in the hands of the American
   public. Enough to constitute the final check on government as envisioned
   by the 2nd Amendment even though they are not tanks and howitzers (mostly).

4. It is not possible for a N.Y. resident to buy a hand gun legally anywhere
   nearby, not 10 miles , not even 500 miles. Even states that make it very
   easy to buy a gun (Georgia is one example) require that you be a resident.
   The circumvention of these requirements would entail the commission of
   several felonies at both the state and federal level. 

5. The primary use of a handgun is NOT to kill. The primary use is to present
   the potential of overwhelming force. The vast majority of weapons will
   never be fired at anyone. 

6. There is a lot of bull being expressed both for and against gun control on
   this group that properly belongs on talk.politics.guns , please take it
   there.

7. Those of you in Japan could at least inform your acquaintances there that
   the shooter was remorseful. And that the lack of arrest does not mean that
   he will not be indicted.

If you are responding to items 1 , 2 or 7 ; respond here. If to items 3-6
please post to talk.politics.guns. I will not respond to any future discussion
of gun control on soc.culture.japan.  

Charlie 
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