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From: zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Club Day - Mallala (SA)
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:43:18 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

For those who want to try the Racetrack:
  
THe Historic Motorcycle Racing Register is holding a club day at Mallala
on 23rd September.
  
Due to the arcane thought processes of Motorcycling SA, you must
have a valid racing licence to particpate.  

HOWEVER - one day licences are available on the day cost $20.

THe day itself is $30 for non HMRR  members.  

ANy bike is eligble, and any level of rider.  (We have very quick blokes,
and 60 year olds on bikes as old as they are.  No problems).

As far as I know, you don't have to have plugs lockwired, or headlights
taped.  

For more info, email me.

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From: gowen@rsbs0.anu.edu.au (Neal Gowen)
Subject: Re: Training (Was What no posts?)
Organization: RSBS ANU
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 11:04:43 GMT

In article <8171@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au>, zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone) writes:
> 
> ptaplin@escher.arch.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Taplin) writes:

> >Does anyone know much about Advanced Rider Safe courses (ie. skills
> >and training for riding on a track)? I've seen  an article in a Two
> >Wheels issue about this being run at Eastern Creek. What about here
> >in South Australia?
> 
> I looked into this a year or so ago.  Stay Upright are willing to come over 
> here, but need at least 20 people to do the course (I think that was the 
> number) and it would cost about $200 a pop.
>   

If you guys can organise it then it will be the best few dollars you 
will spend.  I did a Stay Upright course on the Phillip Island GP 
track last November and had a ball.  Even after 24 years riding I still
learnt a lot and I can safely say I am riding better now, and enjoying
it more than I have ever done.

 I'm looking forward to going back down in November this year with our
group to maybe do a repeat  advanced course or just a performance 
course (and that's on an XJ900 even!)

Neal G.
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"Grow Old Disgracefully"
Australian National University
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From: djs@cocamrd.mel.cocam.oz.au (David Sylva)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Best bike for a newbie?
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:22:11 GMT
Organization: Co-Cam Computer Group, Oz

In article <mmcg.714254219@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au> mmcg@cs.monash.edu.au (Mike  Mc Gaughey) writes:
>rda582y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Charles Ray) writes:
>
>>What would be the best 250 to get?
>>I have been riding bikes foa long time, but mainly trail bikes, so I have 
>>no idea about road bikes.
>
>>I am currently looking at GSX250's which I like ...... could somebody tell
>>me if they ARE a good bike or not?
>
>Yep - excellent bikes (especially the later, katana-style
>model - silver or silver/red, '83 onwards).
>
>The CB250 is indeed sluggish by comparison; the GPZ250 seems to be
>somewhere between the two.

GSX250s tend to be prone to electrical problems, they blow alternators
I believe. A friend of a friend had one. They are also rather heavy.

CB250/CD250 etc tend to be reliable, but again they are heavy.

CB250RSs are good, but tend to be getting on in their years. They are
also kick start.

Buy a copy of Bike magazine, it has a used bike buyers guide in every
issue. It provides power, weight, and a reasonable rating system.
Also, there is a Two Wheels mag floating around specifically for the 
first-time buyer. This provides heaps on info on various bikes, which
years to avoid and possible problems.

I got a CBX250 about 6 months ago, after evaluating most feasible options
it seemed the obvious choice. They have only a bikini fairing (cheap to
repair when dropped), a very reliable motor (same as CB250RS but with
electric start) and reasonable power without having to go for a ZZR or
RGV.
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From: brianm@plod.cbme.unzw.oz.au (Brian Murray)
Subject: Hello anyone home?
Organization: none
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:49:46 GMT

Is this newsgroup still working? I havent recieved any posts for days now!

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From: twb@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Tony Basaranowicz)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Fuel tank for sale
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:16:22 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia

One slightly dented and scratched Suzuki RGV250L fuel tank, in the original
red and white paint scheme. The tank does not leak and would be perfect for 
someone intending to go proddy racing (reason why I got it, originally). 
Asking price: $90.

Reply by E-mail, or phone me on (03) 660-2681 during business hours.

Tony Basaranowicz,                          ............................ o
RMIT Dept. of Hospitality & Cons. Sci. ....... Suzuki RGV250M ....... _ /\,\
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From: dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes)
Subject: Re: LH Turns vs RH Turns
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:51:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.155819.20381@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> rda582y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Charles Ray) writes:
>echoppin@csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (Errol Chopping -TE) writes:
>
>>A recent thread in rec.motorcycles concerns whether riders have
>>a preference for either right-hand corners or left-hand corners.
>
>>Some say they prefer one or the other because they:
>
>>  are right/left handed people?
>>  are influenced by the camber of the road?
>>  are influenced by the different radius?
>
>I have heard that right hand turns are harder .... not because of right/left
>handedness .... but because of the throttle.
>
>Apparently, your brain finds it harder to concentrate on the throttle AND 
>make a right turn at the same time.
>
>Remember .... this is what I *heard*

When I was learning to ride I found left hand turns easier, but I think that
had more to do with the fact that they didn't involve turning across the
centre of the road.  It didn't take long before both directions were
equally easy.  How fast I take a corner now has more to do with how
far I can see through the corner, and how familiar I am with the road.

David
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From: doerr@inf.fu-berlin.de (Heiko Doerr)
Subject: rego valid overseas ?
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:30:24 GMT

Hello everbody,

in my holidays I had been down under where I bought a marvellous
bike. Instead of selling it, I decided to ship it over to 
Germany. Now I would like to know how long the registration is
valid although I am an overseas citizen at home. Mainly I am
interested in the third party insurance.

Thanks for informations,

Heiko 

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From: tony@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Tony Molina)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sydney Ride .. A show of interest please ..
Keywords: Sydney Ride
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:26:43 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

Sounds like a good idea Jason. I'd be in it if it wasn't for the distance (I'm in Melbourne).

Hey Melbournites! How about we organise something like this down here?

Stay upright

= Tony =
 

Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon)
Subject: Sydney Ride .. A show of interest please ..
Keywords: Sydney Ride
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 05:56:58 GMT

Well fellow motorcyclists .. I would like to propose a ride in the sydney
area .. probably (if I am to organise it) down woolongong way.. A tentative
description follows ..

Date: Saturday the 5th or Sunday the 6th of September
Time: 10am my house or some well known landmark .. (my house could become a
	well know land mark if it was used regularly for a meeting place:))
Invited people: Anyone with a motorcycle capacity independant ..
Proposed Route: Through the Royal National Park Audley down the coast through
	Stanwell Park etc.  Then up Buli Pass and round the back of Mt Kiera.
	Through the Gong up MacQuarie Pass to Robinson for lunch at the Robbo
	Pie Shop.  Then off down through Kangaroo Valley to Bromaderry (just
	north of Nowra).  Then north along the coast throught Berry then Kiama
	and Woolongong.  Finally back throught the Park .. Many stops along the
	way to look at the view/get and ice cream/etc.

	Also if it is on a Sat any one travelling a long way are welcome to
crash at my place in Sutherland for the night (could venture out to the pub on
Sat night maybe :) and then head home on the Sunday.. I was thinking in the case
of Neal .. if he was interested :) could ride up on the friday evening and stay
over night then go on the ride and head home on the Sunday .. :).
	Anyone with suggestions please post em to this news group .. If you
definatley want to some and want details/directions to get to my place e-mail me
at jef@ansto.gov.au and I will advise :).  I hope for a good turn out and a good
day will be had by all .. 

Jason,
keep em shiny side up eh :)

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From: ptaplin@escher.arch.adelaide.edu.au (Paul Taplin)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: broken bones on Quantum
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:54:18 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Department of Architecture, University of Adelaide
Originator: ptaplin@escher.arch.adelaide.edu.au

Did anyone see Quantum this week? (ABC, 8pm, Wed night). They had a
segment about a new design for external fixators for broken bones.
It works by bolting into the bone from the outside, and allows about
1mm of movement of the joint to promote bone knitting.
The story revolved a lot around motorcycle injuries (even showing a
dramatisation of a guy running off the side of a ride in a sweeping
corner). Some poor chappy who was in a bike accident had a fixator on
to show us how well he could walk around on it. (You walk around on it
*while* it's mending). You see the guy going to his doctor for a
checkup on the leg, the doctor saying (paraphrased), "That'll be off
in a couple of weeks. But God help you if I ever catch you on a
motorbike again!".
All in all, interesting, though it really seemed to slur motorcycling.
(At the very end they did also point out that people *do* break bones
in car accidents! Sheesh!). The new design was develpoed in Adelaide,
and is used alot at the Royal Adelaide Hospital, so I guess I'm in the
right city should I break a leg! :-)

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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: another good ride
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:09:25 GMT

Went for another really neat ride last weekend. About 6 hours round trip.
Although I stopped off in Geelong.

1. Go along the Western hwy until you get to Myrniong (just past Baccus
Marsh). 

2. Head up to Blackwood, then Trentham, Daylesford. Spend an hour
looking for mushrooms (well, there had to be a destination!)

3. Go on to Glenlyon, Malmsbury. Have lunch at Ma's Pie kitchen (really
really nice pies with local cow in them.)

4. Kyneton, Woodend, onto Mt Macedon. Go to the top. Come back down (why?
because it's there...)

5. Head onto Gisborne. Then take a really, really neat road down towards
Baccus Marsh (32kms), then follow this road down to Geelong. (ok - this is
not really an interesting trip, but I have some friends down there so that's
why I went there.) But the road from Gisborne to Geelong (32 + 58kms) is
absolutely brilliant. Very little traffic, no funny little blue men with
hair dryers and strobe lights, nice views (especially during sunset).

Saturday was a brilliant day for a ride. Pity it rained on sunday..

Apoligies to non-victorians for receiving this...

Take care,

   Shckwish!

Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: brent@currawong.bhs.mq.edu.au (Brent Curtis)
Subject: Re: LH Turns vs RH Turns
Organization: School of Behavioural Sciences, Macquarie University, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:32:21 GMT

echoppin@csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (Errol Chopping -TE) writes:
>A recent thread in rec.motorcycles concerns whether riders have
>a preference for either right-hand corners or left-hand corners.
>
>Some say they prefer one or the other because they:
>
>  are right/left handed people?
>  are influenced by the camber of the road?
>  are influenced by the different radius?

How about because one footpeg is further forward than the other. Makes
it easier to lean to the left. And also the effect of having a motor that
spins along the axis of the bike - when accelerating the bike leans to the
left, too.

The joys(?) of a BMW.

                      Brent.

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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: Christopher.Norris@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Christopher David Norris)
Subject: advice on BR 250
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Keywords: BR
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:52:27 GMT



I am currently looking for a bike for my girlfriend as she wishes to
have some transport to get to work each day (instead of the train).

I have already looked at one bike...a BR 250.
This bike is a 86 but first registered in 88.  34000 KM's and in average 
condition , a few patches of surface rust etc as it has been left outside,
needs a new chain and sprockets soonish.

Is this a good learner bike? at a price of 1200 (NZ$).  The guy selling it
wants 1600 (NZ$).

I am asking as I havent ridden a 250cc puttputt for quite a while.
I have been riding a Pop-up KATANA for two years and a CX 500 previously.

Any advice would be grately recieved..

Thanks

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Department of Computer Science
Victoria University of Wellington, N.Z
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: pjordan@rp.CSIRO.AU (Patrick Jordan)
Subject: Re: Torque reaction (was Re: LH Turns vs RH Turns)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:30:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.012723.8224@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>, brent@currawong.bhs.mq.edu.au (Brent Curtis) writes:
> skea@vast.unsw.edu.au (Alan Skea) writes:
> >If the torque
> >reaction is peculiar to BMWs I think I'll keep away from them.  Does
> >anyone know what other bikes suffer ffrom this? 
> 
> The only other bikes I can think of that are known for torque reaction
> are the Guzzis. Again it may be that this is only limited to older models. 
> 
> Any Guzzi owners?

Yes, I have an 1973 Guzzi, and torque reaction is quite noticeable (and fun)
when sitting at the lights revving the engine. I have never noticed it 
while riding, although my Guzzi is not a great bike for cornering hard on 
(It's a touring model).

Torque reaction occurs when engine revs increase or decrease, but as
far as I can tell, you need to be in neutral to make a big enough
change in the revs to feel anything. With the bike in gear, I can't
see that it would be possible to increase the revs quickly enough to
make this difference.

Modern Guzzis still use the same engine layout (V twin mounted across
the frams, shaft drive), so these comments should apply to new Guzzis
as well as old.

On the other hand, unnoticeable torque reactions aside, Guzzis are
great, and in my opinion for many of the same reasons BMW's are great.
That is, longevity, simplicity, ease of maintenance and classic good
looks. I think Mr Skea would be doing himself a great disservice if he
ignores BMWs and Guzzis because of torque reaction. It is really not
that big a thing.

I love my Guzzi!

Be seeing you!

Patrick.

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From: Anneliese Kropf <akropf@admin.amc.edu.au>
Subject: Wanted to buy
Organization: Australian Maritime College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 01:11:57 GMT

Want to buy Kawasaki ZX10 or ZZR in Tasmania or Melbourne area.  Please
state colour, kms, condition and price.  If anyone knows of one of the
above for sale please let me know as good bikes are hard to find in
Tassie.

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Anneliese Kropf 
e-mail akropf@admin.amc.edu.au
Australian Maritime College
Tasmania
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From: HCHA8904593X@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (PERRETT, ANDREW)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: rd250lc 4 sale
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:06:17 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Is anybody interested in an RD 250 LC yamaha suitable for part/restore for
around $320 (melbourne area)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: rda582y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Charles Ray)
Subject: Re: LH Turns vs RH Turns
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:58:19 GMT

echoppin@csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (Errol Chopping -TE) writes:

>A recent thread in rec.motorcycles concerns whether riders have
>a preference for either right-hand corners or left-hand corners.

>Some say they prefer one or the other because they:

>  are right/left handed people?
>  are influenced by the camber of the road?
>  are influenced by the different radius?

I have heard that right hand turns are harder .... not because of right/left
handedness .... but because of the throttle.

Apparently, your brain finds it harder to concentrate on the throttle AND 
make a right turn at the same time.

Remember .... this is what I *heard*

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From: lm@marvin.jpl.oz (Luigi Martin)
Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Victoria ride?
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:54:50 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Johns Perry Lifts, Melbourne, Australia

in article <ck.713147741@iconix.oz.au>, ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) says:
> Nntp-Posting-Host: titanic
> 
> How about organising a bike ride through some nice places in vic? 
> Eg : Black Spur, Great Ocean Rd., anywhere around Kinglake, Gippsland,
> etc etc etc. Some time around spring.
> 
> Shckwish!
Good idea. I would like to do something like that.
All I need is a motorbike :-(
Someone should start to collect names and do the organising.
Any volunteers???

>>>Luigi Martin<<<
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Newsgroups: aus.motorcycles
From: smathewrg03@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Best bike for a newbie?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:47:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.123144.2804@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, dawes@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Dawes) writes:
> In article <507@aldetec.oz.au> mawson@aldetec.oz.au (Graeme Mawson) writes:
[...]
> BTW, I'm biased towards two-strokes -- and I think the RZ250 is not a
> bad bike -- I had one for a couple of years and clocked up about 50000km on
> it during that time (it had done 30000km when I bought it and was getting
> a bit 'tired' at 80000).  The powerband on these is relatively progressive.
> 
> I think the 200km/h top speed someone else mentioned is a bit optimistic
> though -- that's about the speed you'll get out of an RGV or KR-1.
> 

  Not really. I've got a 1989 RZ250R with 7000k's on it, and without a 
fairing I've reached an indicated 195 kmh. I believe a fairing may well lift
this by 5 kmh. 
  From what I have heard, the top speed for a new RGV is around the 215 kmh
mark. And they won't let us get a 500 cc bike 'cause it is "too dangerous".
Ha!

> David
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Curtin University
Perth WA                          1989 RZ250R
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From: jef@quark.ansto.gov.au (J. E. Fearon)
Subject: Sydney Ride DATE CHANGE ....!!!!!
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:40:50 GMT

Sorry about this people but the sydney ride has to be postponed to
SUNDAY the 13th of September ..

this is due to the fact that I have to work this Saturday :\

Stay upright ..
Jason.

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