From: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: (Fwd: *C&CD*) RE: (Fwd: *C&CD*) Do colleges require only first-year writing? (8) (17)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:31:11 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


Entry: 17
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:37:53 -0600
From: Gallus <galbri@abel.bethel.edu>
Subject: RE: (Fwd: *C&CD*) Do colleges require only first-year writing? (8) (17)
Message-id: <199301070337.AA01173@abel.bethel.edu>
Reply-to: Computers & Composition Digest (R. Royar) <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>

In comp.edu.composition article <1993Jan4.190053.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> you
wrote:
>

> Entry: 8
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:01:00 EST
> From: IN%"RobertRoyar@Delphi.COM" Robert Royar, (C&CD Moderator)
> Message-id: <1992Dec29.050100.v7.055.1.Grendel.Lair@Cratylus>
> Subject: Do colleges require only first-year writing? (8)
> Reply-to: "Computers & Composition Digest (R. Royar)" <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
> Organization: Cratylus Educational Software
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> >From: CROWLEY@NAUVAX.BITNET
> >Subject: Standardizing Composition Classes (*MBU*)
> >Message-id: <01GSV3I45ZK08WX75X@ulkyvx.bitnet>
>

> >    4.  Institutional politics:  I have concluded that the one thing that
> >makes FE different from all other college courses is the fact that it is
> >required.  If we don't require it, perhaps (this is a big perhaps) it might
> >assume the status enjoyed by other university courses.
>

> Does this mean that many colleges do not require other courses from all
> students? We require math (which includes basic math if placed in it),
> history, philosophy, intermediate writing, lit, and a few others. These are
> all part of a 30+-hour "core curriculum" with standard syllabi (our admin
> showed us accred-agency docs that suopport their claim that standard
> syllabi are necessary for these courses) but what NYIT and our accreditors
> call syllabi (10-25 page documents) are a bit more elaborate than what MBU
> has been calling syllabi (which we would call course outlines).
>

> As an undergrad I had to take 12 hrs of required German language (the
> specific language was mandated by ones major which for me began as
> Chemistry). I had to take history, and a few electives from a very
> constrained range. Even at the senior level there was one required
> (non-English) "elective" which I hated to have to take.
>

> I assumed that most colleges had some required core courses. Is this just
> naive?
>

>  -- Robert Royar (RobertRoyar@Delphi.com) New York Institute of Technology
>     "If the Russians can get rid of the Communists, the Americans can get rid
>     of the Republicans."                                        - Rudy Rucker
>

> ------------------------------


What are you complaining about?  I have to take approximately 60 credit hours of
so-called core curriculim.  I am not complaining when I say this, as I realize that by
choosing to attend a Christian Liberal Arts school, I am subject to the "general ed."
courses as much, if not more than, the next guy.  Why is this?  Because the administration
of this place of education, throughout its many years of experience, has decided that
these courses help us, as students, to become better, more well rounded people.  I too, do
not like some of the courses that I have to take, but then again, I am not attending a "Tech"
school!
        Looking forward to a reply-
         Brian K. Gallus
         (galbri@bethel.edu)

P.S.  I happen to be conservatve.....

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