HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Posting Private Mail (Was: Re: Real hams?)
Organization: Small Business Systems, Incorporated, Smithfield, RI 02917
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:01:21 GMT

swalton@mail.boi.hp.com (Sean_Walton; 85U524; x3821) writes:

>Also, if anyone wants to talk on these BSSs should use their own
>handle not hide behind "Anomaly System Administration  <netmail!root".

Well, Sean, I guess you're new to the net.

If you were a net.veteran, you would have noticed that the message posted
by our friend Kebbin was in fact a private e-mail message which I had sent
to him.

Now, I *could* flame Kebbin for posting private e-mail, but that's okay,
because I'm sure everyone else pretty much thinks of him as low-life scum
for doing it anyway (not to mention that I could care less, since I stand
by each word I said.)

However, there are two things to remember:

	1. Private e-mail may or may not be sent from the same account
	   which I post to USENET with.

	2. You're only seeing one side of the posting. What you're not
	   seeing are the particularly vulgar messages which Kebbin is
	   in fact sending to other people on this end. And, naturally,
	   its always easy to condemn based upon a single-sided view.

MD
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: LW antenna
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:35:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.154244.12228@hemlock.cray.com> dadams@cray.com writes:
>
>Suppose one would like to try to pick up some DX stations on the AM broadcast
>band.  Usually the antenna is inside the radio.  What could one do to 
>set up a more sensitive antenna?  Is there anything one can do without 
>spending much $$?  What if space is limited to a small back yard.  (I can
>go maybe 200' max.)

You can stretch out a long wire, wrap a few turns of it around the
ferrite loopstick antenna in the radio, and ground the short end to
a convienent cold water pipe. But don't be surprised if the results
aren't too satisfactory. Like using outside gain antennas on HTs,
the extra signal strength may overload the radio and generate 
spurious products across the band. A very selective antenna tuner
will be a great help. But as *everyone* in the shortwave group will
tell you, to do good but inexpensive MW listening, get the GE
Super Radio and use it as is. Service Merchandise, and other chain
stores carry, or can order, one for you for under $50, and it is
well worth it. This is a basic analog dial mono radio with an
exceptional tuned front end and good IF selectivity. It sounds
great, and will pull in the DX without resorting to outside antennas.

Gary

-- 
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: running 300-ohm twinlead thru wood
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:27:37 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <1993Jan21.125436.4514@klaava.Helsinki.FI>,
stickler@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Patric M Stickler) wrote:
> I have a similar situation in that I intend to run 450ohm twin lead
> through a wooden window frame -- but will I have a problem with arcing
> if I'm only running 100-150 watts??

Patrick-

I don't have personal experience with the 450 ohm twin lead.  However, it
is frequently used with an antenna tuner and an antenna that is not
resonant.  It may have considerable standing waves in that application.  In
that case, voltage might be quite high at some points along the feedline. 
I wouldn't recommend it for that use, unless it were kept away from any
potentially conductive surfaces.

Used where the load was matched (450 ohms resistive), RMS voltage would be
21.2 times the square root of Power, or about 260 volts for 150 watts.  If
the 450 ohm twin lead was open-wire construction, the only insulation might
be the paint on the window frame.  I'd say arcing was quite likely.  For
plastic-insulated twin lead, it depends on the voltage rating of the
insulation, at the frequency of operation.

For safety, I'd recommend some kind of thick plastic be used to sandwich
the twinlead where it would touch the window frame.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: furuta@cs.umd.edu (Richard Furuta)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Burglars are brighter than you might think!
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:13:17 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

This snippet from the February Auto-Call gave me a bit of a pause.  I
thought the warning might be of interest to others as well:

	Beware of the Eavesdroppers

	Last summer I discussed over a local repeater my plans for a trip
	to Florida with my family.  When we returned, our home had been
	burglarized.  VCR, tape deck, coins, silverware, etc., were gone,
	and of course my ham equipment was missing.  I did have my SSN and
	callsign on most of the rigs.
	
	Two weeks later the police recovered a stolen car in the next state.
	The trunk of the car was filled with stolen property.  On the front
	seat was a scanner programmed full of local repeaters adn a 1992
	call book with over 100 calls checked in a three state area.  Beware
	of the eavesdroppers.  Do not give out personal information over the
	air waves.

	To embarassed to sign.

Auto-Call, published by the Foundation for Amateur Radio, gives permission
to reprint from their publication provided credit is given.

					--Rick
					  N3JGF

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey)
Subject: Re: Real hams?
Organization: The hole in the wall. Hollywood
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:23:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.141435.11243@spectrum.xerox.com> hdavies@rx.xerox.com writes:
>In article aa06911@ingate.microsoft.COM, a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho) writes:
>>What is with these insults. I've been licensed as G8UDP for 13 years.
>>
>>72/73 Kevin, N7WIM / G8UDP
>[snip]
>
>Yeah, but that isn't a *real* license!	:o)
>Regards,
>Hugh, G0CNR.

	Whaddya mean not real? Them G0,4,3 thingies cost the same per
year as the G8 ones. When I consider my air time as G8LUK, it must
work out at about 45 quid an hour. Cell phone air time is probably
cheaper. Last time I was in the UK - just for 6 hours - I didn't raise
anyone. 

	But, my G8 was much harder than my N6. This does not take into
account the U.S. Morris test.



-- 
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Paper Mail: 742 1/2 North Hayworth Avenue, Hollywood, California 90046-7142
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: root@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Lord of the Files)
Subject: HZ goes to the scum-pit once again!
Originator: daemon@rocky
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:23:44 GMT

Mike,

I am amazed that you have dipped to new lows by actually going out and
soliciting flames regarding your position on the codeless techs!  I am
not sure if you are one of those deviants who likes to be scolded and
put in his place or you are just plain DUMB!  Maybe it is a
combination of both.  I hope that your posting will inspire all
codeless techs to get together and bother the hell out of you and your
cronies.  Your need for a sense of superiority is simply mind-boggling. 

I for one intend to try my best to let all codeless techs know of your
neo-nazi ramblings so that they may unite against you and make you
feel as stupid as possible, which many of them have already done a
very good job on in their responses to your absurd posting.

Basically, you are a disgrace to the ham radio community and I only can
pray that no one will ever find their introduction to ham radio through
you and your little group of ham radio rejects...

-Andrea, WS1C


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 |  Let's All Become No-Codes                                  | 
 |  And Bother the Hell out of the High and Mighty!            |
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From: cummings@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Cummings)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:02:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In <C1FMon.4q4@anomaly.sbs.com> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>cummings@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Cummings) writes:

>>	But it's also easy to see it for what it is:  A series of
>>mean-spirited generalizations about "no-codes" disguised as humor.  It's a
>>classic example of someone wanting to put down a whole group of people
>>while maintaining an easy excuse for doing so.

>Gee, where was your condemnation of the "Real hams...." list which was
>posted shortly before my "Real no-codes" list? Two different standards?

	You're changing the subject.  Combining this with the tactic I
described above and your earlier "you forgot ask me if I care" zinger, I
have a pretty clear picture of how you argue. 

	But, just pretending it's relevant for the moment, I have yet
to see the article you refer to.  Maybe I missed it, or maybe it hasn't
gotten to my site yet.

-- 
Michael Cummings  NX7E	
cummings@u.washington.edu
"To be hit by Moriyama's fastball is an honor exceeded only by being
crushed under the wheels of the Imperial carriage." - _You Gotta Have Wa_
From: jerry@isi.com (Jerry Gardner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I love/hate Wayne Green!
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:16:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Integrated Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bashful.isi.com

In article <1993Jan27.204709.5314@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> j_otterson@star.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>I think Wayne Green should have been Ross Perot's running mate.  B-)


Wayne Green *did* run for president or vice president in one of the recent
presidential elections (1984 or 1988). The newspaper article I read this
in claimed Green wasn't a legal candidate because he is a convicted felon
(tax evasion, I think).


-- 
Jerry Gardner (jerry@isi.com)    |	"Violence is the last refuge of
Integrated Systems, Inc.         |	the incompetant" - Isaac Asimov
From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Larsen "kulduckie" w/ HT - is it worth it?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:40:52 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: maelstrom.berkeley.edu


Hello.  I recently purchased an Alinco DJ580T HT for around $360 and I'm
quite impressed with it.  However, it has been recommended to me to get
the Larson dual-band kulduckie antenna to use instead of the shortie
that typically comes with all HTs (including mine).  I was told by some
sources that the Larson would make a great improvement over the factory-
included antenna.  however, I have other sources who have told me that
the Larson wouldn't be worth it - since all "duckies" are practically
dummy loads anyway - and any improvement on transmit would be minimal.

Is there a concensus on this?  Please post or e-mail your opinion...

thanks and 73-
greg   -- sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu
KD6QPY
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: paulf@abercrombie.Stanford.EDU (Paul Flaherty)
Subject: Re: Three Minute Morse
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:11:46 GMT

devo@vnet.ibm.com (Dave Eaton) writes:

>PS, I am indeed one of those hopeless "no-coders" and look at
>me...learning morse code.  Breaking all the stereotypes.  :-)
>I think CW is pretty cool.  I can make out a lot more CW on
>the bands than SSB.  And I think CW would make a darn slick
>interface for a full-blown computer watch...I could take notes
>during meetings without any distractions or lugging something
>around.

Somehow, lost in the noise, is the fact that, in addition to the surge of
codeless techs, there has also been a significant increase in the number
of hams upgrading in recent months.   The reason is simple enough.  It's
pretty well impossible to explain the utility of morse code to someone who is
outside of the hobby.  From the inside, however, it's a different matter.
Personally, I had never planned on upgrading from tech when I got the license
in 1986; a few months on the air changed all that.

As such, I think the folks who are pro-code to the point of codeless tech
bashing are shooting themselves in the foot.

-=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX | "Just name a hero, and I'll prove he's a bum."
->paulf@Stanford.EDU   |  -- Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, USMC (ret)
From: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com (John Brewer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real hams?
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:28:48 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



	.... use AM!  :-)

      -------------------------------------------------------
      | John Brewer | Internet: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com  |
      |   wb5oau    | Packet  | wb5oau@wb2ars               |
      -------------------------------------------------------
From: wpns@miki.pictel.com (Willie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Transmitting 50-178 & 300-512?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:52:35 GMT
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

In article <1993Jan26.181740.2349@sj.ate.slb.com> jones@sj.ate.slb.com (Clark Jones) writes:
>BTW, there are several commercially available recievers that use PLLs for
>the LO and cover from ~0.1MHz to ~30MHz.  That's >8 octaves...

I looked at the Motorola spec and realized that yes, you are correct,
though it resorts to tricks you don't genera;;y see in VHF and UHF
rigs.  Has anyone seen a transceiver at UHF or VHF that covers more
than an octave?

Willie Smith
wpns@pictel.com
-- 
Willie Smith    wpns@pictel.com    N1JBJ@amsat.org     "I'll make
Beelyuns and Beelyuns from the book contract and the TV show with
government funding for looking for the nothing in the void where The
Bang caused the hole in the middle of it all" Frank Hayes - Cosmos.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: k9jma@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (edwin.m.schaefer)
Subject: Re: Info needed on BC779B & R270/FRR surplus
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:17:30 GMT



BC779 is military version of Hammarlund Super Pro (SP-400).
There were several versions with different frequency coverage.

Mine covers:
200 - 400 KC
2.5 - 5 MC
5 - 10 MC
10 - 20 MC
but don't recall the letter designation.

Comes in two units behind 19" rack panels - power supply and receiver itself.
Single conversion superhet 2 stages of rf amplification.
Tunes through the standard combination of "bandset" and "bandspread".
IF has variable bandwidth through adjusting coupling in transformers,
crystal filter, and AVC system input tapped off before second detector so
AVC and "S" meter work even with BFO turned on! ANL uses temperature limited
6H6. Audio is push pull 6K6s.

Design very good for pre 1940 but uses older octal tube series. That is,
RF amps are 6K7 instead of 6SK7, etc. Overall, a nice old RX but the
stability leaves something to be desired. K5JKX had a series of articles
in 73 magazine on stabilizing and updating this rig in the mid 1960s.
I have an Army TM from the late 1940s with some service manual type
info on this RX if you need more data.

Rest of Antique rig is a Meissner "Signal Shifter" and push pull 250TLs.

73 de K9JMA
-- 
Ed Schaefer   AT&T Naperville, Il.    jma@ihlpm.att.com           708 979 2480
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Subject: Re: re: ANTENNA HANDBOOK
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:50:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.010156.5434@ryn.mro4.dec.com> pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson) writes:
>
>>In article <1jr0e3INNnbn@shelley.u.washington.edu>
>>dbillon@stein.u.washington.edu (Damien Billon) writes:
>>>
>>>  I am looking for a good antenna handbook describing how to build HF, VHF,
>>>UHF... antennas. Any idea ?
>...
>>Sure: The ARRL Antenna Handbook. Also the ARRL Antenna Compendium,
>>although I haven't actually seen and used the latter. You might
>>also very well find what you need in the ARRL Handbook, which is
>>probably one of the best investments a ham can make. 

I have found the ARRL Antenna Handbook to be a OK general reference book
on antennas. I bought it and was a little disapointed at the construction
articles in it. It seems to be a little vague in a lot of spots in explaining
how things work. It's handy to have but if you are interested in really 
digging into how antennas work or building your own there are a lot better
books out there. 73!

Jeff

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From: wvogel@MtHolyoke.edu (keeper of the tone)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Shareware/Public Domain Software for Theory Test
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:42:18 -0500
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: slab.mtholyoke.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

the program you are asking about is autoexam
it can be found as AUTOEXAM.ZIP at  wuarchive.wustl.edu in directory
/mirrors/msdos/hamradio  it is 251630 bytes zipped but also includes
autocw.exe
autoexam contains ALL the questions for ALL license rates novice to
extra  
it is very large when unzipped ( fills two 360k 5.25 discs)
but very helpful in preparing for your test

good luck

-w

1 xmtr shy of a station

dont forget to find an unzip utility

Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:23117 rec.radio.info:57
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info
Subject: DXCC Backlog Stats - January 8, 1993
Keywords: DXCC
 
                         DXCC Desk Stats:
 
                Processed                 Backlog
           Cards     Applications    Cards     Applications 
           -----     ------------    -------   ------------  
 
 
                    on August 3rd.
 
               to July 27th.  There are 20 outstanding items on the backlog
               that were received prior to that period.
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:48:29 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA

-- 
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Digital Equipment Corp.         UUCP:      ...decwrl!sttng.enet!reisert
146 Main Street	- MLO3-6/C9	Voice:     508-493-5747
Maynard, MA  01754		FAX:       508-493-0395
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
From: pec1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (peter.e.costello)
Subject: Looking for info on African American Ham Radio group(s)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:21:29 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: radio amateur organizations in the United States



	Are there any African American Ham Radio organizations, or clubs
that anyone of you might know? If so, can you please provide me with a
contact person, E-mail address, or phone number.

	If you have any pointers as to where I might look for information
about such an organization, that may be helpful too.

	Thanks, in advance,
	  P. Costello
From: Alexander Slingeland <davos@engin.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: operating abroad/ HR in Vietnam?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:16:47 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ggbmac141.engin.umich.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A7859793DC01888D@ggbmac141.engin.umich.edu>
X-XXDate: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:22:43 GMT


I plan on traveling abroad in a couple of months and would like to bring
a rig
along with me, but am unaware of what is required to operate in
anothercountry.
Does anyone know who one generally gets a license through (I am not sure
where
I am going yet), and about how long it takes ?
	
Also, while I am at it, does anyone know if there is an amateur radio
service 
in Vietnam?
	
Thanks,
Alexander Slingeland (N8SPG)
davos@engin.umich.edu
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:23265 rec.radio.info:67
From: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Internet to Packet gate
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:18:18 GMT
Reply-To: david@stat.com (David Dodell)
Organization: Stat Gateway Service, WB7TPY

WRIGHT@morekypr.BITNET writes:

> My question about the gate is this:
> 
> Will it also work for someone with a BITNET Account?

Mine does.  Doesn't make a difference.

david

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      Bitnet: ATW1H@ASUACAD                     FidoNet=> 1:114/15
                Amateur Packet ax25: wb7tpy@wb7tpy.az.usa.na
From: shalamsk@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.EDU (John Paul Shalamskas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KH6 is tough, isn't it?
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:52:25 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


Yep, so I guess I am the only net.person who is active on HF from
Oahu these days.

Seems like there's quite a demand for KH6 on 75 meter SSB... 
after working the Geratol Net on 3767 the past few days I have
about 50 contacts, basically the whole net :-).

Dang, I wish those code/no-code bigots would quit stuffing the net.
I think that it would be FAR more effective of we each sent them 
a flame, not to the net.  Then they would have to wade through
megabytes of text, and the rest of us could get on with Real Hamming.

Aloha, (maybe it's the weather?)
   John KJ9U/KH6    shalamsk@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ag821@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeff Gold)
Subject: Re: LICENSE DELAYS
Reply-To: ag821@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeff Gold)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:42:20 GMT


In a previous article, wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew) says:

>Here is an interesting observation:  Some members of the local
>radio club finished a license course in mid-November 1992.  Two men
>from the course took their no code tech exams just before
>Thanksgiving; they are still waiting for their tickets.  A woman
>from the same class took a novice exam on December 12th and just
>got her KB8... call last Friday (about five weeks).
>
>It appears that the one remaining person processing applications on
>Tuesdays in Gettysburg must process X number of applications from
>each application category.
>
>My application was for an HF tech in the middle of September; it
>took the VEC+FCC about 12-1/2 weeks to process.
>
>Oh well, it is just some time to go shopping for your rig.  Can't
>complain too much seeing as it sure didn't cost much to get my
>license. :-)
>
>73,
>Bill
>
>
>-- 
>Bill Mayhew      NEOUCOM Computer Services Department
>Rootstown, OH  44272-9995  USA    phone: 216-325-2511
>wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (140.220.1.1)    146.580: N8WED
>

I believe there might be another explanation. Any testing
that is above Novice gets processed by the VEC then 
forwarded to the FCC. The Novice licenses go straight 
through. At least this is what i have been told. It use
to be that the Novice wait was approx. 4 weeks and the 
tech 8 weeks. a Four week diff. would be common.

73s

Jeff, AC4HF
-- 
Jeff M. Gold, AC4HF
Manager, Academic Computing Support
Tennessee Technological University
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