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From: jarman@ee.ualberta.ca (Andrew Jarman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 My experience/minor problems
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:48:35 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith) writes:

>jarman@ee.ualberta.ca (Andrew Jarman) writes:
>>
>>>Can anyone tell me how to change OS/2 to use a free IRQ please?  Thanks!
>>
>>Yup -also had that problem in 1.3 when installing my SB.  Instead of telling
>>OS/2 to use a different IRQ for the printer, simply change the jumper on the
>>SB to something else.

>Is this to imply that you can change the interrupt for your printer
>under OS/2?  I suppose that it could only be done if your I/O card
>was capable of using other interrupts.  It sure would be nice to
>free up IRQ7 by using an IRQ higher than that on my ISA system.
No, my printer (like everyone elses) is at IRQ 7.  My sound blaster
is at IRQ 5.  I have no network card.  If you REALLY want to use
IRQ8-15, then I suppose that with an exacto knife, some solder and some
thin wire, you could always cut the trace to the backplane and jumper
the IRQ line to a different pad on the card, allowing you to use another
IRQ.  The only problem here is that a lot of I/O cards do not have all
of the edge-connector pads present for pins they do not use.  Also, I
guess it would be a little tricky to go back and use IRQ 7 again :-)
But then, you would have to be desparate! :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Pause before you consider OS/2 (was Re: Win 3.1 not THAT great.)
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:05:15 GMT


>OS/2 2.0 will *not* be compatable with Windows 3.1

Hmm.  That must've been smoke and mirrors then at comdex... ;-)

>OS/2 2.0 will *not* support SVGA or XGA graphics modes. (The
>	 above poster's comments about OS/2 supporting a 32-bit 
>	 SVGA engine, notwithstanding.)

Don't let my XGA card know that.  It'll stop operating at it's
full resolution (which it has been in since beta 177)... :-)

>OS/2 2.0 will not support full-blown pre-emptive multitasking for
>         another 12-18 months. (Not sure what they meant by this,
>	 but it didn't smell right.) At that time, Windows NT
>	 will be on the scene.

Pre-emptive multitasking not there?  Don't tell that to the 15
compiles I had going at once yesterday.  They sure were
pre-empting each other *quite* effectively... :-)

>Moral: If you are buying OS/2 for OS/2...great. Do it..multithreading
>       is a good thing, and OS/2 has it. If you are buying OS/2 
>       'cuz you want to run mostly Windows applications in OS/2's
>       PM...you might want to rethink that.

Hmm.  You've fogotten about how wonderful a thing is address
space protection.  Don't need that footpedal reboot switch
anymore... :-)

> - Rob DeMillo			| Internet: 	 demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu
>   MIT Lincoln Lab 		| Also Internet: rjd@brown.cs.edu
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From: gkm@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (gary.k.mc nees)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: First Impressions
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:26:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr16.210704.2884@watson.ibm.com> larrys@watson.ibm.com writes:
>In <1992Apr16.193514.6502@news.larc.nasa.gov>, mdw@hojo.larc.nasa.gov (Mike Weisenborn) writes:
>>
>
>>Does anyone else have trouble moving an icon 'just a little bit'?  If you
>>move it over just a few pixels then WPS thinks you are trying to drop it
>>onto itself and it ends up going right back where it was.  Another nitpick.
>>And this one would definitely benefit by gridding the placement of icons.
>
This is actually a VERY GOOD FEATURE. Under windows when one double clicked
an ICON the ICON would move a little unless you have a very steady hand, and
the exact placement of the ICON DRIVES for example would be lost. This doesn't
happen under OS/2. If you want to move the ICON just a little, simply first
move it to a location on the desktop somewhat removed and then put it back 
into the exact location you want it.

Gary McNees
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: the 16550 and Hamilton C shell?
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:47:49 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <10APR199214000768@utkvx4.utk.edu> menees@utkvx4.utk.edu (Menees, Bill) writes:
>        Would someone tell me what the Hamilton C shell is?  Is it a Unix-
>like shell that runs under OS/2?  If so, is there a 32-bit 2.0 version in 
>the works?  Is it shareware or "regular-ware"?  (Is there a better term than
>"regular-ware" for non-shareware and non-freeware software?)

It is presently a 16-bit Unix-like shell (yes) that runs under OS/2
(natively).  It is commercial software.  I give information on how to
reach the publisher in the OS/2 FAQ List.  I believe a 32-bit version
is in the works; you can ask.

>        Also, could someone explain the whole deal with the 16550 chip?  I
>have heard that it is much better to have for high speed communications work,
>but that is about all I know.  I've seen the chip for $12.00; if it is that
>good I will certainly get it.  But, how do I tell what chip I currently have,
>and then where would I install the new one if I got it?  Is it on the mother-
>board or in the modem or where?  I currently only have a 2400 baud external
>modem, but Imfixinta (what does the phrase 'I'm fixing to' mean?) upgrade 
>to a 14000 baud modem through Gateway's deal (since I have a Gateway 
>486/33 :-).  Thanks.

To install a 16550AN or 16550AFN UART (the letters are important) you
need a socketed UART on your motherboard or I/O card.  The UART you
have must be an 8250, 16450, or compatible.  (Some modems and other
devices now have integrated or soldered UARTs which can't be
upgraded.)  The chips are pin compatible (for PC purposes), so you can
just plug the new chip in if your motherboard or I/O card can accept
it.  It does improve communications dramatically, particularly with
high speed modem devices.  (You enable the buffer using the
BUFFER=AUTO parameter in the MODE COMx command under OS/2.)

However, the Gateway modem you describe already has a
16550A(F)N-compatible integrated UART, so no upgrade is required.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
From: RROXBY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Robert Roxby)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: DESQview under OS/2?
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:39:00 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

This may be a naive question, but can you run DESQview under
os/2?  Or does os/2 itself make provision for multitasking of
DOS applications?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: siggi@fml.tuwien.ac.at (Siegfried Hanisch)
Subject: WinOS2 performance
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:33:46 GMT

Why are the WinOS2 listboxes so slow? When I click on the little arrows
of the listboxes, they scroll about 2 lines per second.
The International-dialog of the control panel has a not fully functional
listbox (the one at the top): when I type in a 'G' (for Germany) nothing
happens, the selection doesn't move. All the other listboxes in the dialog
can handle these abbrevations. Is this intended?

greetings
Siegfried Hanisch

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From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: DOS Program Icons Under OS/2 - How?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:05:25 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada

All my windows programs' icons show up fine under OS/2, but all of the DOS
programs that I migrated show up with the simple OS/2 DOS window icon.
When I try to change the icon to a "DOS" .ICO file in the program settings
box, there is no error, but the icon becomes a blank.  These files came from
one of the icon collections on SIMTEL.  They worked fine under Windows 3.0.

On the other hand, if I try to read a .ICO file into the Icon Editor,
it says the file is not a proper icon.

Has anyone been able to use these icons under OS/2 2.0 GA?  Is there a utility
that converts them to somthing OS/2 will recognize?
--
Ted Richards            ted@isgtec.com             [...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ted]
ISG Technologies Inc.   3030 Orlando Dr. Mississauga  Ont.  Canada   L4V 1S8
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Interesting quotes from PC Week
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:33:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro) writes:
: 
: Hmm.. any of you small time developers had IBM drop by to offer you hardware 
: or incentives?
: 

Yes.  A P75 on loan and distribution of my press release at Comdex.  A call
today that I haven't been able to return offering promotional assistance.
I think there's a storm a'brewin.  It does take some agressiveness on the
part of the developer however.  You can't just sit back and wait.

)-: No GA though. :-(

Bob
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: roe2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Cave Newt)
Subject: Re: Comdex Report: Not :-(
Reply-To: roe2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:30:48 GMT

bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:

>Well, actually OS/2 Monthly Magazine has a :-( on about the packaging.
>Inside OS/2 has a subscription card but no OS/2 Monthly Magazine
>card.  Joel (the publisher) says he asked IBM about getting a card
>into the package.  I guess he did not ask the correct people.

Perhaps they misunderstood--there were OS/2 Monthly cards at the Comdex
table in the center of the IBM test drive area (I realize this doesn't 
help the millions of drooling OS/2 fans who couldn't make it, but at 
least a *few* people benefitted...).

Greg Roelofs
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.misc
From: gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Michael Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Win-OS2? It's not working...
Summary: it no work
Keywords: Windows OS/2
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:13:34 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

After some rather severe problems installing OS/2 (do NOT install MOST at
the beginning of your HD. As far as I can tell that caused the problems here)
I got it up to the point where I had 6.304. Only one problem- my Windows
programs (Ami Pro 2.0, various games, etc.) won't run. I think it has something
to do with my setup: all the DOS/Windows programs are on C: (FAT) while OS/2
is installed on D: (HPFS). The only Windows program that I can get to run is
Clock, which for some reason came w/ OS/2 and is on D:. D:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 is
on the path for both OS/2 and DOS windows, but I'm still not having any luck
in getting them to work.

Any suggestions? I really don't want to repartition & format my drive a
third time.
      Tom Sorensen

-- 
Tom Sorensen              gt0040a@prism.gatech.edu
Georgia Tech 
And no, I don't like this .signature.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Even More buglets
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:12:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.011010.15128@muddcs.claremont.edu> teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (Toby Everett) writes:

>BTW, did it take anyone else four days and being shown to realize that
>there are multiple pages for the View settings?  I was _SO_ pissed that
>I couldn't open a Tree view with small icons.....:)

So long as we're on the topic, I'll mention this buglet again:  There
are two (2) pages to the Include settings.  The normal "1 of 2" and
"2 of 2" that should show up above the arrows, don't.  But if you
click on the arrows, you'll get to page 2 sure enough.

New buglets:

If you leave Sticky Pad running while you do a shutdown, in certain
cases it will refuse to run.  Any messages you've left on your desktop
will open, but double clicking on the Sticky Pad icon doesn't start
up Sticky Pad or bring the currently running version into view.  This
means you cannot write new messages with Sticky Pad.  If this happens
to you, you can temporarily get Sticky Pad back by going to the task
list (er, window list:  Alt-Esc, or MB1 and MB2 at the same time),
selecting sticky pad, MB2 to get the menu, and click on Tile.  However,
the next time you shutdown and restart, you'll be left Sticky Pad-less
again.  This condition seems to be permanent, so DON'T SHUTDOWN WHILE
STICKY PAD IS RUNNING if you can help it.

Open Templates and pull off a folder.  Hold down Alt and MB1 click on
the folder's text as if you were going to edit it.  When the edit box
appears, do nothing.  In a few seconds, the edit box disappears.  Try
it again and the edit box stays until you get rid of it.

In the tutorial there is an example with the Master Help Index where
clicking MB2 on it allows you to select Find off the menu, thus allowing
MHI to be opened at the topic you're looking for.  You can't do this
with the real thing.
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
From: GD.SAR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sandy Rockowitz)
Subject: Re: News from L.A. OS/2 Celebration and COMDEX announcement
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:43:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.225834.5596@cheshire.oxy.edu>,
rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller) writes:
>I just got back from the OS/2 rollout at the Westin Bonaventure in downtown
>L.A.
>
>Surprises:
>
>Windows 3.1 compatibility is done!!  I didn't catch whether the CSDs were
>done, or iff all currently-printing copies of OS/2 will have the Windows
>3.1 version of WinOS2, but Reiswig demonstrated running multimedia apps
>under a 3.1 version of WinOS2.
>

David,

I also saw the FTN, and I'm afraid that what I heard differs
considerably.  Reiswig was clear that Win 3.1 support was not
in the shipping product, and he did not give a date as to when
it would be available.  In fact, he pointed out that it was not
complete.  What we saw was analagous to the technology previews
in previous FTNs, in that there was a statement of direction and
a demonstration that in principle the problem was soluble.  Given
what the OS/2 developers have done I have no doubt that Win 3.1
support will be available in the not too distant future, but it's
not ready now.  I suspect that the Win 3.1 support, along with
a raft of video drivers, the 32 bit graphics engine, and a host
of bug fixes, will appear in a June CSD package.  But that's
just speculation.

Sandy Rockowitz
gd.sar@forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Subject: OS/2 2.0 GA and Adaptec 1520 SCSI and Trap
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:52:38 GMT

I use a Quantum hard drive on an Adaptec SCSI 1520 controller in a 386SX-16
Commodore PC 50-II. This has been a great combination in the past with
DOS and Windows. This weekend I brought home the shrink wrapped OS/2 2.0
and gave it a shot. 

The install seemed to go well. I backed up the DOS drive to tape (thank god!!)
and formatted the drive in the install as HPFS. Went throught the full
install. I think I did the 31MB install cause I chose to select what I wanted
and it seemed like I selected everything in the list :-) Then came the big
moment... time to reboot and run OS/2. 

The little OS/2 logos showed, the bigger one showed, then Trap 8

The system detected an internal processing error at location
##0160:fff6453f - 000d:053f
60000, 9084

0386ood1
Internal rev 6.307, 92/03/01

The system is stopped. Record location of error and contact a
service representative.

I then hooked up a printer to see if I could get e printscreen or
something to keep. A few more reboots seemed to confirm that I couldn't
but sometimes they gave me a trap c or a trap d instead of 8 and a couple
of times I got a message
Exception in device driver AHA152x$

Now this sure looks like a problem pertaining to the SCSI controller driver
in some way.

Any hints?

There is a BIOS on the controller that installs itself. Should I disable
that? Will OS/2 install find the drive? Is this maybe just a bad driver
in OS/2? Is this maybe a lousy controller for OS/2? Maybe needs a ROM
upgrade? 

I am open to suggestions!

tj

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: About DOS windows in OS/2 2.0..... (help please)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:42:48 GMT

In article <sridhar.703126542@acacia.cs.scarolina.edu> sridhar@cs.scarolina.edu (M. A. Sridhar) writes:
>
>I just installed OS/2 2.0 on my Tangent 486 computer, and it's wonderful!
>There's just one thing I'd like to know. I'd like to run my display in
>1024x768 mode, and I have an Orchid Prodesigner IIs card. So I copied a
>DLL from the Orchid BBS to my machine, and replaced \os2\dll\display.dll
>with their version.  [Stuff about DOS box fonts - drivers apparently worked]

Does this mean Orchid has OS/2 2.0 drivers out already!!!???

Or do the old 1.2 drivers just happen to work under 2.0?
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
From: chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: YADQ (yet another dumb question)
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:28:46 GMT
Organization: SCS/Compute, Inc.

burton@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (John Burton) writes:

>Well perhaps its actually two questions and not one...

>1. I have a 386/33 AMI BIOS 4 MB machine that I'm currently running with
>   DOS 5.0 and Desqview-386. I've been reading all the posts about OS/2
>   with interest, and wondering if it would do me any good...The main reason
>   I'm using Desqview is because I need multitasking, and I'd like access to 
>   *all* the memory on the machine. The *other* reason I'm using Desqview is
>   that I'm *still* using a CGA adaptor & display. I know, I *should* go out
>   and get a super duper spiffy SVGA card and display, but unfortunately I
>   can't afford to drop 750-1000 dollars when my current setup works just
>   fine for what I'm using it for (Latex, ghostscript, Wordperfect, BC++,
>   Quicken, PCPLUS, ... ). So, the question becomes, what, given my current
>   hardware, would be the advantages of going to OS/2 ? would it be $100
>   worth of advantages?

Although I haven't tried it, I'm pretty certain that OS/2 would be pretty
close to terrible on a CGA display. On the bright side, your $750 price
tag is pretty high... you can buy a reasonable monitor for ~$300 or less,
and many SVGA cards sell for under $100. I would say that if you don't
want to spend that money, you'd probably be happier with Desqview. If you
were willing to shell out the money, however, I think you'd find 2.0
would do everything Desqview does for you and a whole lot more.

>2. At work, I'm going to be getting a 486/33 machine w/ 8MB and SVGA. I would
>   like to get OS/2 for that machine, *except* for one problem. That machine
>   will be connected to a network (ethernet) which has several thousand other machines
>   on it, many of which are UNIX boxes with X11 R4 or R5 on it. The machine I
>   would be getting *must* have X11 capability. I have three primary choices.
>   a) run UNIX on the 486, b) run DOS, c) run OS/2. UNIX has X11 support already,
>   DOS has X11 servers available (Desqview/X, eXceed, ...). Are there any X11 
>   servers available for OS/2 (Not DOS or Windows applications running under
>   OS/2, I'm looking for an OS/2 specific application) ?

I think that the IBM TCP/IP product comes with an X server... can someone
confirm this?

>John

Chris
From: Alan_York@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan York)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Peer to Peer Networking on OS/2?????
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:26:49 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Help requested. We are running multiple OS/2 workstations and would like to
implement casual file sharing such can be made available under DOS using a
product like Lantastic.  Can it be done under OS/2 V2 and how?  Thanks - Alan
--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita)
Subject: Re: Sarcasm, Confusion, and my Timothy Sipples Post
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:42:58 GMT

skanga@prism.poly.edu (Shiraz Kanga) writes:
     Hey al you IBMers out there I think Timothy Sipples deserves
     a free copy of OS/2 2.0 ASAP. Firstly all his hard work must
     be rewarded and secondly he would be able to post first hand
     info rather than the "I heard about ..." stuff that he is
     forced to do now.

A free copy of 2.0???  How about 1,000 shares of IBM!

Frank Fujita
Not affiliated with Tim Sipples in any way, except he helped me
with my questions.
From: gugeler@ringo.ISD.Uni-Stuttgart.DE (Dieter Gugeler )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: .Screen Driver for WYSE 700
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:31:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr8.063126.25828
Organization: Dept. for Statics & Dynamics of Aerospace Structures (ISD)

Is there any change to get an screen driver for the WYSE 700 Monitor for 
OS/2 2.0 I talk to WYSE company and they said, that they are not interested in
building the driver. So i asked for the source of the windows 3.0 driver, because
in the new development toolkitn is a possibility to addaped screen drivers 
from windows 3.0 . The answer was, that the source for the driver is from
MICROSOFT and they would not give it to me.
Is there any chance for me to get the source for the windows driver, or has
somebody an existing driver for the WYSE 700 (may be an older for the OS/2
1.x)
thanks a lot dieter
From: ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Dulay)
Subject: some questions . . . 
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:15:55 GMT


        I have a few small questions which I hope this newsgroup could
answer for me.

1)  How much memory does OS/2 take up?  i.e. how much space does the kernel
(sp?), HPFS driver, ATM, etc. take up in memory?

2)  Is the standard command shell just like command.com, or does it have
much needed commands like move and file name completion?

3)  Finally, I think that there was discussion here about mixing 9 and 3
chip simms and that OS/2 didn't like such a setup.  Is this true w/ GA or
was this a problem related to bad simms?

                                                DDulay