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From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Clarification about Re: Posting atari 8-bit binary files here.
Keywords: question
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:15:44 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <1992Aug26.203143.6067@imagen.com> avi@hawk.imagen.com writes:
>
>Would some kind soul please expand on it ? 
>I have no ftp access but possibly can access via email from 
>my SPARC station PC
>
>How would I get to the atari.archive using email with BART ? (what is it
>anyway)? and even if I did - how would I transfer the binaries from the Sun
>to the Atari 8 Bit ???

Send a message to atari@atari.archive.umich.edu with the word
help
on a line by itself.  Getting the files from the Sun to the 8-bit is the
tricky part, unless you can arrange to connect the two of them by modem or
null-modem cable.  If you have an MS-DOS compatible PC, and a true double-
density drive on the 8-bit, there are programs that allow the PC to read and
write Atari disks.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com
From: clf3678@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.L. Freemesser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: MIO and Hard Drives.
Summary: Black Box will handle embedded drives!
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:07:02 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: clf3678@ultb


With all this talk about the MIO and SCSI-embedded drives, I'm surprised
that nobody has mentioned the solution to the problem...

The Black Box from CSS will handle all types of SCSI drives, including
almost all of the newer-type drives with embedded SCSI controllers.
PLUS, they haven't abandoned the 8-bit market like ICD has.

You can request a free catalog from CSS by calling their offices at
(716) 429-5639 between 10am and 5pm Eastern time.


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From: charles.berlinguette@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Charles Berlinguette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: ATARI BINARIES POSTING
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:57:00 GMT
Reply-To: charles.berlinguette@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Charles Berlinguette)
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP


With regard to binaries posting, I'd like to see a separate group
formed, the software I use to access this group has severe short
comings and the UUENCODED files would come across as jibberish unless a
seperate group is formed.


Nuff said.
             
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Subject: Re: Posting atari 8-bit binary files here.
Reply-To: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 01:23:46 GMT


In a previous article, jim@neb (Jim Hood) says:

>I don't know if anyone has talked about it in the past, but...
>There is no real place for us to post (or exchange) binary files
>here (in news).  Others have a place:
>MS-DOS   = comp.binaries.ibm.pc
>AMIGA    = comp.binaries.amiga, alt.sources.amiga
>ATARI ST = comp.binaries.atari.st
>and so on.  Mac, and most other machines have a binaries/sources
>area where people are exchanging stuff around.
>
>Is there a reason that we here in the atari 8-bit newsgroup are
>NOT doing this on a regular basis and in a defined area??
>
>-jim

I think the reason is simply that there wouldn't be enough traffic.
Look at the Atari Archive FTP site.  How many 8-bit uploads are there a
month?  An average of maybe 3 or 4?

Granted not all, but MOST everybody reading this group can get at the 
atari.archive either by FTP or by e-mail with BART.  Those people that 
can do nothing but read News are welcome to post binaries here, but 
unfortunately cannot retrieve files from the Archive.

Combine this information with the fact that comp.sys.atari.8bit doubles
as the Info-Atari8 Digest mailing-list, where subscribers grumble when
their mailboxes overflow with oversized Digests containing huge binaries,
and hopefully you see why we use the atari.archive instead of a
comp.binaries group.
-- 
 Michael Current, Cleveland Free-Net 8-bit Atari SIGOp   -->>  go atari  <<--
   The Cleveland Free-Net Atari SIG is the Central Atari Information Network
      Internet: currentm@carleton.edu / UUCP: ...!umn-cs!ccnfld!currentm
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Help for ATARI XE video game system.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:23:50 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Hi! I've got a XE video game system, but there is virtually no game cartridge
for it in the shops. Can I use carttridges for 2600, 7800, or whatever else for
ATARI XE? I once saw a cartridge for ATARI video game system, but there is no
XE on it.
Thanks a lot!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Re: GEnie To Internet
Reply-To: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:12:32 GMT

tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>Are you telling me that GEnie's computers run under UNIX? If they do

No, they don't.  But GEnie's Internet Gateway machine runs Unix (well,
at least it identifies itself with SMTP as an HPUX machine).

>not, then what possible effect could any insecurities in a UNIX system
>affect GEnie? Don't make the common mistake of assuming that the

Believe it or not, by offering the ftp-data port for connection, you
open your system up to some little-known security problems.

>Internet has anything at all to do with UNIX - the purists will bite
>your head off! ;-)

I'm not a purist. :)

>I took
>advantage of their feedback menu option and told them what I thought of
>their pricing strategy. ;-)

Thank you.  That is the most effective place to educate GEnie and to
give your ideas back to them.

Of course, you don't quite know this - but part of the conference
Walt said he might have to rewrite the whole billing thing... you'll
see when I post the conference to some newsgroups.

-Andy
 disclaimer: i don't speak for genie, they don't speak for me. :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino)
Subject: XF551 disk drive wanted
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:24:16 GMT


If anyone has a XF551 disk drive they would like to sell please
reply to this msg e-mail.
-- 
Joe Sabatino-->ab588@yfn.ysu.edu
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari binaries postings.  A comment...
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 19:32:47 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

> I'm not sure if there are even 100 participating users on *this*
> group, so it might be hard to come up with the 100 necessary YES
> votes (or more if there is a big movement against).
> 

Well.. not to butt in, but there are at LEAST 100 people here.  Sure only 
a few dozen post, but I always see a new name or three every week or so.

Usually "for-sale"ing, but lately plenty of beginners questions...
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
that's a GOOD thing.

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                   August 30, 1992
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari binaries postings. A comment...
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 08:59:02 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham) writes:

> How do YOU uudecode and xfer to your $ Atari?

>I< just use the "write" command of this BBS which writes a mail message 
or post as a seperate file in my user directory. (This BBS runs Waffle on 
an IBM.) Then I use the neat command called "MUFUD," which is a Waffle 
(plain old "any BBS"?) command that goes through my user directory and 
uudecodes and files in there it can.  The only problem being the way the 
"Subject:" must be written.  Atari Archive sends it as "part aa of aa" or 
something like that, and MUFUD only understands 1 digit letters or 
numbers and written a certain way.  From there I simply type "edit" and 
the name I gave the file when I "write"'d it and then list all the lines 
near 20 (with different headers from different addresses, the "Subject:" 
isn't always on the same line) and then eventually edit the "Subject:" 
line to say somethng like: "Subject: filename.uue - Part 1/1".  Then I 
use MUFUD.  (BTW: when I type "edit filename" I get into the standard 
text editor on Waffle and am prompted, so I can chose to clear the file, 
add to it, insert in it, delete lines, list lines, etc.etc.etc.)

Pretty cool, eh?        Probably about the next best thing to simply 
FTPing! ;)

Beat THAT! (I'm sure SOMEone will)

PhBill: Bill Kendrick               |||  1200 Cyberden BBS (+1 415 472-5527)
Moon!Cyberden!PhBill@Well.SF.CA.US / | \ 2600 North of San Francisco California

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jim@neb (Jim Hood)
Subject: What... No Crashman??
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 04:32:30 GMT

>jim@neb (Jim Hood) writes:
>
>> I thought someone said that crashman was availaible at
>> atari.archive.umich.edu.
>
>Hello!  HELLO!?!?  It's not even DONE yet!!!!!  Sheesh!!!  The PD version 
>will be uploaded to these sites by yours truly, but ONLY after it's DONE!

What??  Not done yet!!!  Shesh...  get those fingers moving!!!
(just kidding of corse...  I guess I was just a little over anxious to
 see something new on that old 8-bit!!)  
Looking forward to seeing it when it is availaible.  

-jim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: greg@Quotron.COM (Greg "Maddog" Knauss)
Subject: Re: Endings to PastFinder, Necromancer, Shamus, Ghostbusters
Organization: Quotron System, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:44:35 GMT

norlin@ESSEX.ECN.UOKNOR.EDU (Norman Lin) writes:

>In Pastfinder, after you complete each stage, you get a new "ranking".  The
>last "ranking" says "YOU ARE GREAT" and it doesn't change after that.
>(BTW, IMHO, Pastfinder has some of the best character graphics and animation
>I've ever seen.  Very creative 3-D effects!)
>
>In Necromancer, after you complete the last graveyard, you get a not-
>too spectacular screen with horizontal bars of color flowing up and down
>from the center of the screen with a powerful fading musical chord in the
>background.  Then you are returned to the title screen.

The most disappointing end-screen I've ever seen was for Caverns of Mars.
After WEEKS of playing the stupid thing over and over and over, I finally
finished the hardest mission and...  got the score list, just like if I'd
died.  NOTHING special.  I don't need half-hour animated movies and I played
the game because I enjoyed it, not because I just wanted to see the end
sequence, but games that have endings should have ENDINGS -- something,
anything.  Even text wrapping up the story line.  After weeks of enjoying
Caverns, I felt let down after I'd finished it...
--
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From: phile@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Philip J Ethier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Terminal emulator help, please
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:15:24 GMT

I am trying to dial up to my account at work from home.

At home I am using an Atari 800 with an SX212 modem 
running SX Express software.

At work I have a Unix account running on Sun hardware.  At work I telnet to the 
Sun from a Macintosh IIsi.  The Unix account is set for a vt100 terminal. My 
Sysop tells me that Unix supports lots of different terminals, but since he has 
no Atari experience, he does not know what to specify.

When I dial up and try to work in ELM, the mail handler we use, I get lots of 
extra characters, stuff like:
[K[?1l>
[?1l>[?1h=
[K 

When I try to display the elm menu, the blank lines all have 
[K at the left side of the screen.

Here is what my Sysop tells me about this:

>These characters are all sequences of ANSI command sequences that are
>supposed to perform various functions on the terminal.  For example,
>ESC[2J will erase a screen, ESC[K will erase a line, etc.  (The ESC
>stands for the escape character, decimal 27)

>So, since your program obviously doesn't understand these special sequences,
>since it is displaying instead of interpreting them as commands, it is even
>dumber than a vt100 type terminal.

So, does Unix support a terminal this dumb?  
What do I tell Unix to do with TERM?  
Or do I have to do something at the Atari end?

Please respond to me via Email at phile@pwcs.stpaul.gov, as I generally do not 
read newsgroups.

Thanks for all your help!

Phil Ethier, THE RIGHT LINE, 672 Orleans Street, Saint Paul, MN   55107-2676
h (612) 224-3105  w (612) 298-5324     phile@pwcs.stpaul.gov
"The workingman's GT-40" - Anthony Colin Bruce Chapman
From: drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude)
Subject: WANTED: FROB cartridge game development system
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:48:54 GMT

Hello net_world,

I'm looking for the obscure little item described below,  called
a 'frob'.  It was a 6502 game development system. If you have one, 
whether it be for an Apple,  Atari, or whatever, please let me know!
Also looking for the official Atari 2600 game development system and any
other relevant information. Thanks!!


        [From an ad in Byte Magazine,  August 1983,  page 100]:

                         The Frob 26(tm)

                  The Serious Game Design Tool

                    For The Serious Designer

            At The Price Of A Toy For The Hobbyist

              The Game Cartridge Development System 
             for the Atari 2600 Video Computer System.

[Picture in ad shows an Apple II-bus board, a 5.25" diskette,  a
three-ring bound "The Frob" manual with the cover open, a ribbon cable
with connectors on both ends, and what appears to be two 2600 EPROM/ROM
cartridge boards.] 

Features Include:
Real-time development 
No hardware modifications required
Apple ][ 48K, one disk drive required

Optional
Atari 5200 Supersystem Adapter Package

[In a box in the center of the ad:]   Now Available for the Colecvision

For high profit reward, purchase the tool that can do the job at an unbeatable 
price.  

frobco
A Division of Tri-comp Polytechnics Inc.
P.O. Box 8378
Santa Cruz, CA  95061
408-429-1551

The Miracle of Creation Can Be Yours
---------------------------------------------------
[End of Ad copy.]

I WANT A FROB !!! Thanks !!
                                                              
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|-------------------------     (205) 730-6773 (8-5 CST)        |    MST3K    |
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==============================================================================
From: bd891@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Allwood)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: The Binary Vote So Far.
Date: 3 Sep 1992 14:16:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


I don't understand why you want a binary posting section.
When I first became a member of Free Net I was crest fallen
to learn that I couldn't D/L files directly.  Then I found
BART which translated means
Brouge
Archive
Retrival
Thang
According to the explanation, given by Free Net folks, the
UNIX systems or other non ATARI systems
in the net, involved in
the Xfer of files, could corrupt to the ATARI files.  This 
means that we might have more trouble D/L files than what we 
now.

Believe me it took me months to figure out how to get the 
files UUDECODED which is an other post in itself.  But it was
worth the effort and it was an opportunity for me to
learn more about my machine.

In case any one if confused by this talk of BART; just get
on FREE NET and go to the ATARI SIG, file section and read 
all about it.
-- 
I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the POWER of 
God unto SALVATION! * Paul Allwood bd891@Cleveland.Freenet.edu
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Necromancer (was Re: Pastfinder)
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:40:53 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX

Greg "Maddog" Knauss writes:
>
>Speaking of unfinished 8-bit games, did anybody ever get past the last
>graveyard in Necromancer?  Some friends and I tried for years, but never
>managed to do it.  It's a great game, but I'd rather eat my own intestines
>than have to play it again...

Man, that game drove me batty.  Awesome game, but thirty minutes of careful
play were shot to hell by that infernal graveyard.  I reached the fifth level
a dozen or so times, but could never get past it.

And did anyone ever finish Shamus?  Case II was easy, but the first one
was ridiculous.  Found a few bugs though.

--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:22:30 -0400 
From: Pat_Barron@transarc.com
Subject: Fixing a 1050 disk drive

[ I just posted a similar note in comp.sys.atari, but this is probably
  a more suitable place.... ]

I have just aquired an Atari 800XL, with mods that make it look
internally like a 130XE.  Everything seems to work pretty well, except
for the 1050 disk drive that came with the system.  It appears to read
and write things without much problem, but it can not format
unformatted diskettes.

A drive RPM diagnostic I have run tells me that the drive is spinning
too fast, yet I don't see any obvious way to adjust the speed.  Can
anyone tell me what I need to do?

Thanks,
--Pat.
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: CrashMan!
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:29:13 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

bbs@neb (BBS System 801-967-8072) writes:

> I run a BBS system in Utah, perhaps if you get the urge/time, you can
> call and upload the file (its running on BBS Express Pro!). The number

Sheesh!  Enough requests already! ;)  For all those with uucp mail access 
(wouldn't that be pretty much everybody?)- it will be uploaded to the 
archives!!!

But remember- the registered version will cost ya a small amount of $$.
(mainly for copying my nice DDIII'd (professional looking! ;^) ) 
instructions, the disk(s?), and postage!)

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__________________________________
                   August 25, 1992
From: lowe@fallout.lonestar.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: TEST!
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:06:14 GMT
Organization: DECUS DFWLUG BBS *Dallas*TX*

A test!  Please respond if you can see this!

MCL
From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Networking 8bits with the cartridge port.
Distribution: world
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:17:32 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

A firm in Warren, Michigan, USA called Innovative Concepts produced a
scheme using a 400/800 connected to a XL/XE via the cartridge port.  The
RAM in the 400/800 could be used for either a printer buffer or a RAM disk.
Once upon a time (isn't that how all fairy tales begin), ICD was to release
a special ROM for the MIO to permit true networking.  (I suspect that the
chip would allow the MIO to have different SCSI addresses)

On the other hand, it is easily possible to setup a simple device to allow
two 8bit systems to share all the SIO peripherals.  All SIO lines are in
parallel except for the +5VDC and COMMAND.  +5VDC can only be connected to
ONE computer (the master) and the COMMAND line is hooked to both via a
single throw, double pole toggle switch.  The master computer must be on at
all times - the slave computer can be on or off as desired.  The switch is
toggled to allow one or the other computer access to the SIO bus - but only
one computer is allowed access at the same time.  I built a small box with
a couple SIO jacks and an SIO plug and the switch for about $25 - the most
expensive parts were the SIO connectors.  It worked great - I would let the
kids load a game from the floppy drive on their 800 while I continued to
work on my 320XE - when I needed the floppy (I typically only used my hard
drive) or the printer, I flipped the switch and used them.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
*** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: E71 and the RVERTER
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:34:02 GMT


In article <92246.012719AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu>, <AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>  um...simple question...how does one do e71 with the rverter?
> none of my vt100 terminals work with it unless its 8bit..
> however...bobterm does vt52Odd which does e71 just fine...when
> using the rverter?  so does bobterm emulate all this and everything
> else uses the 850 tables?

The R-Verter can do E71 with no problem - the RTerm software which comes
with it can do E71 with a couple of keystrokes. No doubt there's some
XIO command which sets E71 mode - check your R-Verter manual.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: 1050 spindle motor wanted
From: powalisz@nrlvx1.nrl.navy.mil
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:49:48 -0400
Organization: NRL SPACE SYSTEMS DIVISION

If you have a **FRIED** 1050 disk drive with a good spindle (pulley) motor,
I'll pay the shipping to take it off your hands. Contact me via, E-mail
if interested. If that motor is new, or barely used, I'll pay shipping
plus any reasable amount desired.

If you know the address of anyplace that would carry just a new 1050
drive spindle (pulley), please also contact me via E-mail

Ron Powalisz (an ATARIAN? ATARI-ITE?)
powalisz@nrlvx1.nrl.navy.mil