From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: Re: 2nd Amendment Myths
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:51:48 GMT

rwojcik@atc.boeing.com (Richard Wojcik,snake) writes:

`Paul Swanson (PS) wrote:

`PS> If I were writing the Bill of Rights now, there wouldn't be any such
`PS> thing as the Second Amendment ... This has been subject to one of the
`PS> greatest pieces of fraud - I repeat the word fraud - on the American
`PS> public by special-interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.
`PS>                                  - Former Chief Justice Warren Burger

`PS> Here is someone who probably has a good idea about constitutional law
`PS> who apparently thinks the RKBA is a misinterpretation of the Second
`PS> Amendment.

`Yes, and he isn't alone in that interpretation.  I believe that most of the
`original debaters would have left it out if they could have foreseen the
`evolution of military defense.  Who would have dreamed of tanks or helicopter
`gunships?

Wait a minute here.  This kind of logic I find offensive.  The same logic
can be applied to the first ammendment (and all the ammendments) but if
you were to try people would cry fowl.  But meanwhile, if you do it to
guns and gun owners, that is somehow O.K.

For example, I suppose that if the founding father could have forseen
the evolution of communications and society in general, they would have
considered leaving out the first ammendment.

Who could have dreamed of AT&T and Cable TV and satellite
communications, prank phone calls and the Playboy channel?  Better
remove first ammendment rights!

Who could have forseen Devil Worship or boligomy or animal and human
sacrifice?  Perhaps freedom of religion was a bad idea!

Who would have thought special interest groups like the KKK would
want to burn crosses or that groups like the Animal Liberation front
would gather to destroy medical research labs?  Better nuke the right
to assembly!  Shall I go on?  Don't even get me started on the Press.
Ted Turner look out....

You might note that in the above, I mixed a combination of legal and
illegal examples in with my reasoning on the first ammendment.  I did
this for a reason, in that for the most part, I find most of the arguements
(extremely emotional arguements at that - as compared to logical or
realistic) which people have about gun control are based on illegal guns.

People complaign because there are to many guns in the streets (illegal
guns to begin with) and want to pass laws to make them more illegal, while
meanwhile making my guns illegal in the process.  Ever heard the saying:
"If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns."?  Ahh, I get it now.

Why don't these do gooders, if they really want to do some help, try to
push for legislation to improve the enforcement of existing laws instead
of trying to create new ones.  In all the years I have owned guns, I have
never had one stolen from my household, and I am willing to suggest that
I never will.  I am constantly involved with offering free gun instruction
to anyone even mildly curious as noone in the educational system has seen
fit to do so.  Imagine that!  Gun safety 101 in high school!  Betcha that
would bring about a lower crime rate and less "accidents" with guns.

I should bring about a comment in regards to guerilla warfare before I close
out here has well.  You can take a look at Afghanistan to see what mere
firearms can do to military might in the right situation.  One thing that
you must remember, is that all the military machines are still operated by
humans.  If you can kill the human, you stop the machine (not to mention
claim it for yourself if you know how to operate it).  Not to say that I
condone or suggest revolution, but to say it is futile is not giving full
credit to human ingenuity or spirit.

I might also comment, most would consider it futile to fight guns with
your bare hands (metaphorical to his above example).  Only twice in my
life have I had a gun pointed at me. (twice period. both times maliciously,
no accidental swings of the gun hunting as I choose my partners responsibly)
Both times, the situation ended with the person on the ground with an
indentation of my fist in their cheek and me emptying out their gun.
But don't get me wronge, I am not specially trained and thus would have
much prefered to have been able to stick a muzzle back in their face(s)
rather than risk my life.

swood
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