HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: parke@star.enet.dec.com (Bill Parke)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Computer-related auto license tags
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:04:21 GMT
Reply-To: parke@star.enet.dec.com
Organization: DIGITAL - VMS Engineering


In article <1992Apr4.101943.100@eagle.navsses.navy.mil>, system@eagle.navsses.navy.mil writes:
|>> 				014747
|>> 
|>That translate to the PDP-11 instruction:
|>
|>				MOV -(PC),-(PC)
|>
|>A nice little infinite loop.
	        ^^^^^^
	Not quite, but a nice way to set memory from
	fromthe data switches, quickly.
|>
|>Mike Jacobi
|>NAVSSES VAXCluster system manager
|>SYSTEM@Eagle.Navsses.Navy.Mil
|>
Bill Parke 			parke%star.enet.dec@decwrl.dec.com
VMS Development			decwrl!star.enet.dec.com!parke
Digital Equipment Corp		parke@star.enet.dec.com
110 Spit Brook Road ZK01-2/D59, Nashua NH 03063

The views expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jlb31348@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim Brain)
Subject: Disk and Drive incompatible....
Keywords: Disk 3.5 5.25 Formatting
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:34:07 GMT

Does anyone have a source for the discussion about the following topic:
 
	I run a University Site and many users bring High Density Disks in to
use on low density drives.  Their disks work fine for a while and then will
start giving errors.  I told my supervisor that high density disks can only be
used in high density drives as a rule, and vice versa for LD disks.  She still
believes in the old line of thinking from 5.25 inch days where you could buy 
better disks to make sure your data would not be lost due to media failure (well
, that is what people thought!).  Anyway, she will not believe me, a mere 
student, so would anyone with some wisdom please email me to forward to her?

Jim Brain
brain@cs.uiuc.edu
 

-- 
Nothing is better than Eternal Happiness.             jlb31348@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
A ham sandwich is better than nothing.                                Jim Brain
Therefore, a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman)
Subject: Re: "Open Systems"
Organization: Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139
	<-=sjwfg@lynx.unm.edu> <WAYNE.92Apr10012257@backbone.uucp>
	<BMnMn7.4MG@world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:00:25 GMT

In article <BMnMn7.4MG@world.std.com> madd@world.std.com (Bob Nagle) writes:
>My Sun 3/50 has no disks in it.  It runs completely off the network.
>Does that make UNIX an NOS (network operating system)?

   If this is SunOS you're talking about, it's definitely NOS (Not an
Operating System). 

:-) :-)
From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Sinclair Lore Query
Keywords: n
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:37:12 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <hj9il0w@Unify.Com> perry@Unify.Com (Perry Clarke) writes:

>Ah, but *which* Sinclair did you find?  The great man created several
>different models:

[...]

There's also the Spectrum 128, which has (yes, you guessed it), 128K of RAM,
and what I suppose you might call v2 of the Spectrum OS (almost proper editing
in Basic, pop-up menus...).

Once taken over by Amstrad, we saw the Spectrum 128K+2 (a 128 with a tape
deck and proper keyboard), and the mighty Spectrum 128K+3 (a +2 with a 3"
disk drive and a new DOS to support it). I owned a +3 for several years, and
really liked it....

>I am sure that the above list is incomplete.  My very first Sinclair was a
>Sinclair Cambridge scientific calculator.  It was one of the first
>affordable (Sinclair's guiding principle) pocket calculators and still
>(IMHO) a paragon of design.

Was that the one that blew up in the Russian diplomat's pocket, and sparked
off a minor international crisis as the Russians thought an assassination
attempt had been made...? :-)

>His first consumer electronics item was (as far as I am aware) a LED wrist
>watch.  In the last 2 months he has introduced what he describes as the
>world's first practical electric bicycle, the Zike (personally, I prefer
>his computers to his modes of transport).

There was an excellent April Fools joke some years ago, where the C6 (?) was
announced in some magazines - it was supposedly a C5 aeroplane!!!

>Perry Clarke                   perry@unify.com                 (916) 928 6287

Barry.
From: weisberg@ee.rochester.edu (Jeff Weisberg)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:24:17 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers
Organization: Little, if any.

In article <JKONRATH.92Apr11004326@bronze.bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> jkonrath@bronze.bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath) writes:
/* 
/* your SO asks you where you want to eat on a friday night and you want to
/* cat yellowpages | grep pizza | grep carryout | more

^more^less

-jeff
===========================================================================
                                |    n    n    n
weisberg@ee.rochester.edu       |   X  + Y  = Z
                                | I have discovered a truly marvelous
      Jeff Weisberg             | demonstration which this file is too
                                | small to contain.
===========================================================================
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Computer-related auto license tags
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:14:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr6.072420.813@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> s854109@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Nicholas Murray) writes:
}I *think* someone around RMIT here in Melbourne has a car with the number
}plate ORAC, after the omniscient computer in the British science fiction
}series "Blake's Seven".

	ORAC isn't omnicient. It just has a way with other computers..
-- 
/unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu                                    Apple IIGS Forever!\
|WANT to get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED |  Also will pass on -UNIX GS-          |
\& ULTIMA VI GS written? ---mail me   |     & CHEAP CD info - mail me         /
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Sig style
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:05:17 GMT

In article <ST1CA.92Apr14233008@menudo.uh.edu> st1ca@menudo.uh.edu (Ronald Parker) writes:
>Need more room? How about changing the definition of F to
>/F{exch selectfont}def instead?

That one's not in the blue book. Is it a Level 2 operator?

Gotta get the red book.
-- 
/F{findfont exch scalefont setfont}def /S{moveto show}def /T{/Times-Roman F}def
6 T (Have you hugged your wolf today?)468 20 S 9 T (Taronga Park BBS)24 35 S 10
/Courier F(`-_-')488 40 S ( 'U` )488 30 S 6 T (+1 713 568 0480 2400/n/8/1)24 27
S (+1 713 568 1032 Trailblazer)24 20 S 12 T (Peter da Silva)24 45 S showpage
From: hseung@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:37:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <4jtj67k@lynx.unm.edu> evilted@vesta.unm.edu writes:
>...you're looking for your hilighter and you think:
>find . -pen HiLiter -print
> 
> additions?

... you want more coffee and you think:

finger waiter; cat *coffee* | grep -v decaff | drink | more


Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: VanVleck_Tom@Tandem.com (Tom Van Vleck)
Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Computers
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:02:35 GMT

witczak@romeo.egr.msu.edu (Mark Witczak) writes:

>       He finished the speech by saying that in the future NASA will be 
>using off the shelf components. I seriously doubt that you'll see a 386 
>or a 68000 on it anytime soon.  I would be willing to bet my career that 
>the shuttle will never say INTEL INSIDE.

Wrong, I think. NASA TV was on community cable on Sunday 3/29. Bunch of
scientists in headsets talking to the astronauts about their spectrograph
experiments, which kept getting UAEs. (Unrecoverable Application Errors,
a characteristic feature of Windows.) Ground guys were advising the
astronauts not to leave so many programs running. 

tom <vanvleck_tom@tandem.com>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: swirsky@adobe.com (Robert Swirsky)
Subject: Re: Slashed o's (o's, not zeros)?
Summary: What about O's with little dots? 
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:10:03 GMT

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the little dot that IBM liked to put in
the Zeroes on some of its 3270s (and, later, display adapters for the
IBM PC.) Maybe this is to avoid confusion with languages that have a 
slashed O character.

On some of the COBOL coding forms I have here, there is a box in the corner
where you can indicate which character (zero or O) has the slash. This
was important in shops where the programmer filled out coding forms and
someone else did the keypunching.


---
robert
swirsky@adobe.com   robert@boy.com
FREE ANSWERS TO (most) UNIX QUESTIONS: email rtfm@boy.com
 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: imp@solbourne.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: Re: Space Shuttle Computers
Followup-To: alt.religion.computers
Organization: Solbourne, User Interface Group
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:41:12 GMT

In article <34384@ttidca.TTI.COM> hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The
Polymath) writes:
>* [Note:  I don't care what language you've read or been told the AP101's
>are programmed in.  I've held the listings in my hands and seen with my
>own eyes.  I even got paid to document a chunk of the code (the IPL
>sequence).  It was written in AP101 assembler -- which I had to learn on
>the job.]

And Lo! He saw the listings and held them in His hands and He saw that
they were AP-101.  He beheld the AP-101 and the IPL thereof and
scorned the unbelievers who cast doubt and aspersions upon His very
word.  And he spoke thusly, "Believe not what you hear or read, for
tales of the One True Language have been greatly exagerated.  AP-101
is The Way to enlightenment for the magical and wonderous space
vehicle."  And it was So.

Warner


-- 
Warner Losh		imp@Solbourne.COM
If it can't be done with Emacs, you are being too ambitious.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dbegley@nepean.uws.edu.au (David Begley)
Subject: Re: me vs. vi survey *please read*
Organization: University of Western Sydney
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:00:52 GMT

hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs) writes:

>>you don't realy need that... We also have the WordStar emulator... soon to 
>>come is the WordPerfect emulator that produce troff or nroff commands to your
>>text... You name it, we'll make it... No problem since VI is a turing machine..
>
>A WordStar emulator??  The only sequence anyone needs for WS is ^K^D
>(for those who don't know, this means "please may I get out?"), IMHO.

Worse than that.. a WordPerfect emulator?!?!  Someone must be REALLY desparate, imho..


%% david %%
dbegley@lancelot.nepean.uws.edu.au

--
 ===========[ Digital has it now.  (And you can't have it. <grin>) ]===========
   David J. N. Begley                58:2100/142@intlnet, 3:712/211.3@fidonet
   University of Western Sydney, Nepean    dbegley@lancelot.nepean.uws.edu.au
 =====[ Epicentre of the Universe ---- ((( In Stereo Where Available ))) ]=====
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jkonrath@bronze.bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath)
Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers
Organization: No organization. No life. Just emacs.
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:43:26


your SO asks you where you want to eat on a friday night and you want to
cat yellowpages | grep pizza | grep carryout | more

-jon
--
Jon Konrath, University Computing  | Jkonrath@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ultrix) 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:59:06 -0400 
From: "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: How to get rich...

My housemate was grumping around her desk a few weeks ago, and complained
to me "Why can't you make a 'grep' that searches my desk!"

What makes this funny is that she is an English major/librarian/avowed
nonprogrammer...
                            joe
From: ahm@gnat.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Wanted: Unix license plate
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:06:27 GMT
Organization: gnat - Dunellen, NJ

kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup) writes:

> In the parking lot next to OSF HQ at 11 Cambridge Center, in Cambridge, MA, I
> see a blue Volkswagen Jetta (?) with the plate "UNIX V". Dunno who it belongs
> to.

As the originator of this now-meandering thread, I'd like to announce that
my original intention has been fulfulled - I now possess a genuine 
"UNIX - Live Free Or Die" license plate. (The one from the DEC promotion,
not an actual vanity plate).

Thanks! (You know who you are)

Andy
--
 Andreas Meyer, N2FYE             Warning: due to the shortage of robots,
 ahm@gnat.rent.com                our workers are human and will therefore
 ..!rutgers!bobsbox!gnat!ahm      react unpredictably under stress.
From: david@dragon.Greco-Prog.FR (David SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Those wacky K&R guys
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:30:09 GMT
Organization: Laboratoire Bordelais de Recherche en Informatique

In article <1992Mar31.215538.7789@sci.kun.nl>, hansm@cs.kun.nl (Hans Mulder) writes:
|> 
|> Try the reference to Ursa Major in the index to the TeXbook.
|> 
|> Or, if you insist on real animals and those wacky guys, the reference
|> to squirrel in K&R....

Or "Royalties, Use of" in Knuth's Art of... (vol.2 I think).  Picture on 
referenced page is an organ pipe arrangement of probabilities.

I was told once that D.K. has a two-rank organ at home (by someone who 
claimed to have visited and played the thing).

--

djs                        David J. Sherman      (david@geocub.greco-prog.fr)
			   Laboratoire Bordelais de Recherche en Informatique

                  De l'incertitude profonde des desseins nai^t une e'tonnante 
                  liberte' de manoeuvre.        --Anouilh, /Becket/, Acte III
From: bohdan@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (bohdan.l.bodnar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: ADM5
Keywords: adm5
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:05:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsd.1992Apr15.130531.6586
Organization: AT&T

In article <GIKENI8@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <xeno.703243578@pv34ad.vincent.iastate.edu> xeno@iastate.edu (Gary L Snethen) writes:
>>   First of all, whenever the terminal receives a ^G (beep), instead of
>>sounding the bell as I (and my TERMCAP) expect it to, it enters some
>>strange double space mode and dumps the last few lines of its buffer to
>>the screen.  Can anyone explain this?  and/or tell me how I can rectify
>>the situation?
>
>One of the pins on the RS232 connector is for "test mode". It enables a
>"^G does a screen dump" facility. Disconnect all the pins except the ones
>you need for flow control.
>
>>   Also, I am interested in learning about all of the control/escape
>>sequences for the adm5 including those (if any) that affect the
>>extension port.
>
>Well, I could help you but my ADM5 is on loan. Let me see if I can get
>it back. Start with the termcap entry for the ADM3A...
>-- 
>/F{findfont exch scalefont setfont}def /S{moveto show}def /T{/Times-Roman F}def
>6 T (Have you hugged your wolf today?)468 20 S 9 T (Taronga Park BBS)24 35 S 10
>/Courier F(`-_-')488 40 S ( 'U` )488 30 S 6 T (+1 713 568 0480 2400/n/8/1)24 27
>S (+1 713 568 1032 Trailblazer)24 20 S 12 T (Peter da Silva)24 45 S showpage


Actually, on the ADM5 all you need are signal ground, receive, and transmit (I
use one at home -- 10 years old and still going strong).  Now, can somebody from
Lear Siegler can explain to me WHY the keyboard lockout timer is digital
instead of analog in this machine?  These sealed keys are a pain in the neck to
flush with contact cleaner -- increasing the lockout time to something like 7
or 8 milliseconds would remove almost all the key bounce from this terminal.

Now, if you REALLY want to discuss antiques, how about talking about the
INFORMER D77 data entry terminal?

Bohdan Bodnar
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, IL 60566
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: xeno@iastate.edu (Gary L Snethen)
Subject: ADM5
Keywords: adm5
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:26:18 GMT

Hey everyone,

   I recently acquired an adm5 from a good friend...  and I have a few
questions about it...

   First of all, whenever the terminal receives a ^G (beep), instead of
sounding the bell as I (and my TERMCAP) expect it to, it enters some
strange double space mode and dumps the last few lines of its buffer to
the screen.  Can anyone explain this?  and/or tell me how I can rectify
the situation?

   Also, I am interested in learning about all of the control/escape
sequences for the adm5 including those (if any) that affect the
extension port.

   I am also interested in any adm5 emulators for the pc, especially
one available for use with Telix 3.15.


   Please email me with your response...

Gary Snethen
xeno@iastate.edu
From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Patron saint of computers
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:43:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: crashnburn

In article <1992Apr6.161316.14076@cl.cam.ac.uk> jlb10@cl.cam.ac.uk (John Beaven) writes:
St Stephen.

(How did he die?)

John

He was stoned to death for believing Jesus had risen from the dead.

Ramblin'

(followups to alt.religion.christianity
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:56:48 -0400 
From: "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Heavy tape drives

>After having taken the tape drive out (about 100 pounds), it took me and
>four of my friends approximately 30 minutes to get it up the stairs.  There
>were 17 of them. . . BTW, the stairs have since broken, and are now being
>fixed.

When I first read this, I read it as 17 friends, which would certainly
explain why it took 30 minutes to move a tape drive up a set of stairs...
On rereading it I saw the "four".  But for a wonderful 30 seconds I had
this image of a new fraternity-style event to rival phonebooth packing...
"How many students can you use and still get a 100lb tape drive up a flight
of stairs".  Or a Guiness record book for the most students required to 
move a tape drive, or...

Not to mention <ethnic> jokes with <hacker> as the actual parameter...
                        joe
From: Greg_Goss@mindlink.bc.ca (Greg Goss)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: WAR GAMES II, or How I Learned To Start Worrying And Hat
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:26:01 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Eric S. Raymond writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <1g6mk2#07hLYC9OhKwQ53jrFN1cr96y=eric@snark.thyrsus.com>
> Posted: 14 Apr 92 14:54:31 GMT
> 
> In <1992Apr14.061838.27862@sq.sq.com> Mark Brader wrote:
> > Personally, I'm waiting for the sequel -- where Eric reveals the *fourth*
> > name on the bingo-card report.  Evidently this one led into such senstitive
> > areas that it had to be hushed up!
> 
> Sorry, the true explanation is much more mundane.  The number above the
> fourth
> name had been disconnected.
> --
>       Eric S. Raymond = eric@snark.thyrsus.com  (mad mastermind of
> TMN-Netnews)



Sigh.  I would never have thought that ESR would ever let himself be forced to
say such things.

:)
--
"say NO to four-line sigs"     greg_goss@mindlink.bc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,rec.arts.sf.written,talk.politics
From: tom@europa.lonestar.org (Tom Kimball)
Subject: Re: WAR GAMES II, or How I Learned To Start Worrying And Hate The Bomb
Organization: Moria Mining Guild (BBS) -- Dallas, Texas, USA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:30:04 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics

In article <1992Apr10.175439.16877@cunews.carleton.ca> wcstom@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Hamill) writes:
>In article <41768834@bfmny0.BFM.COM> tneff@bfmny0.bfm.com (Tom Neff) writes:
>
>>Annex Canada now!  We need the room,    \)      Tom Neff
>>    and who's going to stop us.         (\      tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM
>>
>Please do!  I'm sure President Bush couldn't do any worse with the
>Canadian economy than our beloved Prime Minister has already done.
>And then we wouldn't have the hassle crossing the US border anymore,
>our beer and liquour would cost one third the price, our tobacco
>products would cost one fifth what we pay now, and we'd get to swagger
>and act like the saviours of the human species when we go to other 
>foreign countries.

True.  But you would also have to cut back from 3 weeks to 2 weeks vacation per
year, and say goodbye to guaranteed health insurance.
-- 
Tom Kimball    tom@europa.lonestar.org    tom%europa@egsner.cirr.com    
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: u8802356@cs.uow.edu.au (Elephant)
Subject: Re: You kyou've been in hack mode too long ...
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:22:49 GMT

mwt@bcm.tmc.edu (Man Wei Tam) writes:

>.... you start dreaming code

or, just to get the thread running again ...
You start dreaming in Tetris (or whatever game has you fancy at the
moment). And start trying to rearrange the furniture so
it all fits neatly against one wall
:-)

Elephant
From: ftit@engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Makefile vs. makefile
Keywords: Makefile makefile why
Date: 3 Apr 92 10:21:23 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <bof.702254310@midget.saar.de> bof@midget.saar.de (John Bof) writes:
|Hi!
|
|Does anybody know why everybody prefers 'Makefile' over 'makefile'?
|I can't see a reason for that, so it certainly has something to do
|with history.
|

I imagine it's because 'M'<'m', so that when you get a directory
listing, Makefile prints out first.  Unless, of course, you have some
smurfy BiCapitalisedFileNames.c in your directory (another thread).

|
|  Patrick
|
|-- 
|Patrick Schaaf          /   \  I speaking for myself, not for my employer,

--
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|    (Sergej Roytman)     |  ferroconcrete wainscoting of Internet"   |
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Say no to four-line .sigs.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: radish@iastate.edu (R. Hoon)
Subject: Re: Easter Egg FAQ list
Originator: radish@oper.cc.iastate.edu
Organization: Brenda's Iron Sledge
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:45:15 GMT

At Iowa State's Computation Center, we have an HDS 9180
(IBM 3090 clone) which runs Stanford's flavor of the Wylbur
timesharing system on top of MVS.  A couple of years ago,
while rummaging through the Wylbur source code, a friend of mine
discovered something somewhat amusing in the logon routine;
let me demonstrate:

  radish@aviator$ telnet wylbur
  Trying...
  Connected to wylbur.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  Connecting to port ELF-0012

  Iowa State University Computation Center

  User? joshua!!
  Greetings Professor Falken!

  Would you like to play a game (Yes/No)?

If you reply yes, it plays a simple number-guessing game and
then tells you that you'd learn more with an Apple II than
trying to break in to other people's systems.

Shows the age of the joke, I guess.  :-)

-- 
                      "I spilt the water on my desk...  My papers wept for joy,
      R. Hoon          bathed their faces, then all my words melted into black
 radish@iastate.edu    puddles.  I shredded them twice just to be sure."
                               -- Bill Bill <gibson@hplabs.hp.com>