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From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: A lesson to be learned by Iranian Government .......... . . 
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:54:11 GMT

Privatizations raise $21.5 billion for Mexico

	MEXICO CITY (UPI) -- The sale of Mexico's state-run enterprises has
earned the country $21.5 billion in the last five years, President
Carlos Salinas de Gortari said Monday.
	Speaking at the inauguration of a Mexico-Eastern Europe privatization
seminar, Salinas said the money raised has enabled Mexico to increase
social spending and meet other important requirements.
	``The most important thing has been to realize the privatization
through clear processes, public auctions and realize them effectively,''
he said. ``It has allowed us to obtain resources equivalent to $21.5
billion that means open spaces for the compliance of the social
responsibilities of the state.''
	The massive sell-off, which began under the presidency of Miguel de
la Madrid and took off when Salinas took power in December 1988,
included the auction of 18 banks and the state-run telephone service.
	Salinas said the workforce was involved in the ``concensus'' process
which had convinced them they would benefit directly from the sales.


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From: smortaz (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: check.2
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:59:37 GMT
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From: nasser@nasser.net.com (Nasser Modiri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: #### A MUST SEE BOOK (on Iranian Computer Market) ####
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:14:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: unet.1992Nov5.211434.21628
Organization: NET, Redwood City


		The First (Complete) Guide To The Iranian Computer Market
		---------------------------------------------------------

This is a well prepared book which I have received from Iran.
It consists of about 400 hunders pages (color) with multi-list of:

        Alphabetical Index to Some Iranian Computer Companies
        World Computer Products in Iran
                by company
                by Iranian agent
                by country of Origin
        Countries share in the Iranian market
        Continent share in Iranian market
        Glossary of computer terms
        Alphabetical index to Software Bank
        Alphabetical index  to Computer Books
        Alphabetical index to Iranian computer companies
        Rate of computer companies
        Article of Consitution of Iranian Informatic Council
        Copyright Law about software
        Mapping the software world
        etc.

If you are in anyway interested in computing and espically Iranian
computing the must see lists are:
        World Computer Products in Iran
                by company
                by Iranian agent
                by country of Origin
        Alphabetical index to Iranian computer companies


The price of the book is 5000 (Rials), and the postage
is 3400 (Rials). ISSN 1016-4391.
To buy a copy, or for more information write to:
        c/o Brain Newsletter,
        Amin  Mohadjer,
        P.O. Code 14455-395,
        Tehran, ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.


Sorry that I don't have more time to write on the Guide, but
I will bring it to the next SCI lunch (bay area only).

with thanks
nasser

p.s.1 Yes, there is a computer learning center with the name of
        NOOR, but that's not me.

p.s.2 All SPARC types are available in Iran except the SS10.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: Export of Western Technology to Iran
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:48:04 GMT

In article <BxKHvJ.Fo8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
> Washington Post has a long article about this issue on its  Tues issue.
> It puts Iran's trade figure with Germany above 5 billion.
> Iran's trade with Japan is around 2.5 billion and with Italy about 2 billion.
> There is also an article about Iraq's concern about Iran's technological
> and military build-up.
> 
> Ala

I don't like the looks of the recent flood of (bad) attention toward
Iran. In the Wednesday edition of the Raleigh News and Observer there
was a similar article about this as well as an article about a recent
phone conversation between King Fahd and Clinton. Fahd warned Clinton
about the Iranian threat and Clinton assured him that he shared the same
fears. The article suggested that Clinton may decide to exercise a
little foreign policy muscle before settling down to domestic affairs. I
don't like the look of things, folks. 

Since we know that Clinton and Gore have connections with the MKO, I
can't help but think that they are contributing to the development of
Clinton's foreign policy and the buildup toward war against Iran. The
MKO arguments remind me of the Cubans here in the U.S. who want nothing
more than to have the U.S. continue to squeeze Cuba to starvation. They
don't give a damn about their fellow countrymen, don't mind to have them
made to live in squalor, as long as they eventually get to go back and
take control of "their" country. Please, Mr. Clinton, don't listen to
these folks. Iranians are humans whether they live inside Iran or out.
Please don't follow in the footsteps of Mr. Bush and use human beings as
pawns to be killed at will in a big game of economic power. Please, Mr.
Clinton, if you care about the military buildup of countries around the
world, stop the sale of arms, such as to Saudi Arabia, merely to save
U.S. jobs. It fuels the wars of the future. Please, Mr. Clinton, be
aware that this King Fahd was the same man who, along with the Emir of
Kuwait, recently paid Saddam Hussein to kill Iranians. Please, Mr.
Clinton, if you really care about human rights and democracy, take a
second look at the state of affairs in King Fahd's monarchy. For the
sake of reason and for the lives of all inhabitants of this earth, let's
move forward, not backward.

Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Hejab
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:11:09 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <11NOV199209585805@utrcv1> ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA) writes:

>Dear Anisa;
>Excellent job ! well done
>
>We tremendously enjoyed you article on soc.culture.Iranian. It did cleard up
>a lots of misunderstanding which was going on for a long time in this group.
>Please feel free to enlighten our group with more of your nice articles.

Unfortunately there are not enough women in these newsgroups to voice
their opinions and reactions to such threads.  Glad that I could provide
some kind of insight into the discussion.

Jazeka Allaho Kheiran ... I appreciate your kind words.  :-)

Allah Hafiz -

Anisa

 	"For the first time we could say to everyone - this is our
 	faith, this is our way of life, this is who we are.  And
 	nothing could stop us.  You can't imagine what that was
 	like....."  Alfred Molina in Not Without My Daughter

(Not the greatest of movies, but good quote!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: You make the call (Iran vs. Japan - Asian Cup)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 23:49:00 GMT


I just talked to my family in Iran this morning. In light of Iran's
elimination from the Asian Cup, here's some facts/opinion courtesy of
my brother.

Facts:

    o A tie would have advanced Iran into the semifinals while it
      would have eliminated Japan, where a win for Japan would advance
      Japan into the semifinals and eliminate Iran.
    o The game was played in Japan!
    o Three players from Iran were sent off during the game!
    o The game was tied 0-0 until the 88th minute when Japan scored
      the only goal of the game.

And here's my brother's opinion (I haven't seen the replay to agree or
disagree):

    o The Japanese player who scored the goal looked to be in offside
      position by a few meters.

You make the call.

    --mack


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Re: String instruments in Iran
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:17:57 GMT


Mariam Hakim-Zargar writes:
******
.............what is the HakhAmaneshi
dynasti called in English?
******


---------> Achaemenid
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: Bahais: Real or Economic Refugees?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:27:33 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <19886.2afc2a76@ul.ie> abbasa@ul.ie writes:
>Bahais claim that

[stuff deleted]

>torture just a way to get refugee status?
>
>  
> 
>BTW: It is a general observation that a big share of people who
>get refuge in the west come from those countries which are at odd
>with the west.  Does it mean that human rights are well-respected
>in all friendly countries?  
>

Not true.  You see refugees in the west from pro-western countries as
well, such as El Salvador, South Africa, Phillipines under Marcos
(remember Aquino?), Iran under the Shah (remember Khomeini?), South
Korea, Chile under Pinochet, Argentina, etc. etc. 

>Warm regards to seekers of the truth,
>
I hope you are one of them.

>Asad 

Agha Javad
(baghghal who can't afford an Acura, but cuts his fingernails)
From: bashir@acsu.buffalo.edu (Noushin Bashir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Commodification of Malcolm (Re: MalcomX movie and Newsweek
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:24:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1369@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>Spike Lee recently stated during an interview on NBC's
>"Today" show that as a producer he also has to think in
>terms of 'returns'. So, I don't think that his merchandising
>methods have produced undesirable results. 

Not for him, at least! In an interview with Fashion TV, Lee also
mentioned that he does not intend to end up poor like some black artists, 
and his fashion business is an effort to secure his future financially.


					Noushin
-- 
From the pain come the dream. From the dream come the vision. From the
vision come the people. And from the people come the power. From this
power come the change. 
					- Peter Gabriel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: OPEC Secretariat Warns Group of Budget Shortfall
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:05:28 GMT

11/04 (WJ) OPEC Secretariat Warns Group of Budget Shortfall

    GENEVA -- The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries has run
out of reserves. Not of oil, but of money.
    OPEC Secretary-General Subroto assembled employees at the group's
Vienna headquarters and warned of hard times unless a budgetary
shortfall is covered by increased contributions from member states next
year.
    The OPEC secretariat has had a shortfall of about $4 million a year
for the past two $24 million annual budgets, officials said. It has been
covering this by drawing on reserves, which are now exhausted. Neither
Ecuador, which is quitting the oil cartel, nor Iraq have paid their
annual dues since mid-1990.
    One OPEC official, noting that the shortfall represented about 12
minutes of oil output by the group at current oil prices, said OPEC
isn't in trouble. The remaining 11 members could simply increase their
contributions, he said.
    Maybe so. Major exporters such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and Venezuela
can probably write the bigger checks without pain. But smaller
producers, such as Gabon, may find the extra contributions difficult.
                                 -END-
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: 01saeid@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Ms King Is this your real name???
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:22:38 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <19154.9211111335@thor.cf.ac.uk>, scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk ("M.G") writes:
> To Ms L.King,
> 
> Is this your real name??
> I am sure you are a jew so your name has to be something like
> KAHAN, KHIEEM, or MENAHIM.
> That is the practice of all the jews they change their names
> claim they are christians
> then they start attaking ISLAM and the MUSLIM regadless in the
> name of FREEDOM.
=======================================================>
What is it with you that thinks everybody in the world is attacking
the Islam and MUSLIMS. May be it is time for you to get the hint
that the time has come for another religion.
 
> Why do not you attak the Turkish Govenment who ban the Hijab
> and SADDAM who killed thousands of innocent people. 
> 
> NO OFF COURSE NOT 
> 
> The Turkish gov. doing a very good job especially their are thousands of
> jews (every single jew is a spy for Israel) in Turkey
> and Saddam is a great man in your eyes
> and most of the American and the jews where else they can find
> an evil like him
> This the truth ms King or what ever your name is.
> 
> 
> M.G
> CARDIFF, WALES, U.K
===========================
This kind of opinion is way outdated and I wonder how you can still
believe that you are running on the cloud nine with your ideas.
All I can get from these couple of paragraphs is that you have no
sense of understanding of the world current affairs and your judgments
are purely based on rumours and tabloids.

I suggest you do not include all of iranians in your future
conslusion drawing and from now on please try to adopt another
nationality since I feel your are nothing but a disgrace to Iran.

Saeid Yazdanmehr
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: vahid@math.toronto.edu (Friedrich Kourosh Vahid)
Subject: Per Capita income of Iranians
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:53:38 GMT


I am wondering if anybody can tell me how much is the average
income of an Iranian person in Dollars. (preferably Canadian) 
     

Secondly, what is the visa regulation for traveling to Iran?

Third, does the Iranian government allows the people to visit
the Persepolise.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: A Joke
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:52:49 GMT


Now here is a joke and hope after that serious discussion I posted, can
bring a little relief for you all.  Hope this would not mis-respect any
individuals in this net.

In a class room in Esfahan, the instructor was trying to enlighten
students about the technology in the West.

Teacher: Dar Amreica, Kar-Khaneh-haieh Hastand Keh Az Yek Taraf Gossaleh
me-Frastand va Az Taraf Diggar So-Sis Meayad Beroon.

Yek Bacheheh Tokhs az Tah Class Mageeh:

Agha, Kheyleh Me-Bakh-Sheda, Valli Namisheh Az Inn Taraf So-Sis
Befrastim va Az Taraf Digar Gosaleeh Begrim.

The teacher replied with a lot of anger: 

Chera Pedar Jan.  An Etefagh Dar Khaneh Pedarat Etafagh Oftad va Toyeh
Gosaleeh Be donia Amadi.
Path: FAQ/Answers/Yellow_Pages/bookstores
                Keeper/Maintainer: nemazie@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu
                                   mack@isl.stanford.edu
                o bookstores contains name, phone number, and contact
                  address of 36 Persian bookstores, book distributors,
                  and publishers world-wide.

    ===================================================================

   14q. How do I watch a video cassette that was made in
        Iran/US/Europe? Where can I convert such videos from one
        system to another?

   14a. [someone help me with this --mack]

    ===================================================================

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
End FAQ
From: cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Too many ShaytAns on SCI
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:07:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.12NOV199212072323
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov12.140418.3987@ncsu.edu>, hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes...
> 
> 
>Boro be ShaytAniyeh! All of you little devils! :-)
> 
>****************
>Not Satan
>Not ShaytAn
>Not Ahriman
>---->Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
 I am the original Satan, (ShaytAn)! I am angered by this cheap copy
of me known as Ahriman, (Lucifer). I banish him and his followers to
soc.culture.jews!

Satan.
(ShaytAn)
From: bahman@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Bahman S Kermanshahi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Spreadsheet software
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:04:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: ccu.BxBEnp.FMB
Reply-To: bahman@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba


Salam Hamvatanan-e Aziz,

I'm looking for a shareware/public-domain spreadsheet software
for Sun Workstation. (Something like Lotus-123 or Quatro-pro).
Would you please give me a ftp site or share with me if you have one.
Thank you very much.
.. Bahman

Bahman S. Kermanshahi
University of Manitoba
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Winnipeg, Manitoba, R3T2N2
Canada

e-mail: bahman@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787)
Subject: Re: Ms(mr)King real name(The jews)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:14:00 GMT

In article <24443.9211131323@thor.cf.ac.uk>, scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk ("M.G") writes...
>Ms Mellisa Namazi writes in her article that I am ANGRY???
> 
>YES oh YES I am ANGREY
> 
>I beleive A MUSLIM should care about his fellow muslims
> 
>I am very angry when I see:
> 
>-the jews on this net attaking I.R.IRAN with or without reason just
> because it is an Islamic state 
>(during the shah these scums use to appraise Iran)
> 
>-the jews helping and arming the serbs to kill muslims in thousands
> 
>-your so called freedom lovers the SCUMS American killed thousand
> of Iraqi people and even they buried the ingured alive during the
> gulf war
> 
>-The economic sanction by the order of the (the jewish loby)
> against the I.R.Iran just because the Iranians had their freedom 
> in 1979
> 
>-The muslims in south Lebanon who have been bombarded daily by 
>- the jews
>- and more and more examples about the suffering of the muslims
>  all over the world
> 
>If you are not angry and happy with the suffering of the muslims 
>then I realy feel sorry for you.
> 
> 
>                         *** AS LONG AS THE MUSLIMS FOLLOW THIS BOOK ***
>                            ((he was holding the QUR'AN in his hand))
>                                   ***  WE NEVER DEFEAT THEM ***
> 
>                                        A British M.P
>                                        speaking in the parliaman 1920
> 
> 
> 
>M.G.
>Cardiff, Wales, U.K

 Your are right! We Mulims must unite against the tyranny of the JEWS!

Satan.
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: RE: Are Baha'is .....
Date: 10 Nov 1992 02:27:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Nov6.142310.11522@ryn.mro4.dec.com> hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com (Kamran Hakim) writes:
>
>
>Mohaghegh/Seyyed et all: My goal in participating in this discussion has 
>been to conduct a dialogue in a respectful and friendly manner, hoping 
>that some mutual understanding would result between us. Alas that I have 
>failed in my repeated attempts to accomplish this. My sincerest apologies 
>to the readership of sci who had to patiently put up with my long replies. 

Mr Hakim, allow me to appeal to your inifinite patience and ask you
to not desert sci.  during the last year I have read every single one
of your posts, which have been a significant element of my developing
much respect for Bahai's.  I'm sure this is true for a lot of other
sci members.

I commend you on your self-control, and effective use of this medium
to educate us all about your god-loving and peace-loving religion.  It's
sad that while you were accomplishing so much, our fundamentalist Moslem
friends only managed to discredit themselves and Islam.

>However, the experience has not been without learning for me, and for this 
>I will remain ever appreciative to Seyyed and Mohaghegh. I have finally come
>to understand the INNER SIGNIFICANCE of the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 
>7:6.
>
>If either Mohaghegh or Seyyed ever decide to abandon their revolutionary 
>spirited, and commando type verbal attacks and instead DISCUSS issues, I 

Sadly, I doubt if that will ever happen.  I could not stop shaking my
head in disbelief when in response to your offer of peaceful coexistense
and polite, friendly exchanges of ideas seyyed wrote:

>You are my ENEMY...
>Your polite attitude is just a dirty trick to deceive people...
>But don't worry, neither do you need me to be friendly,
>nor do I need you to be so.

...and to think that all of you worship the *same* god too.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: Too many ShaytAns on SCI 
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:04:18 GMT



Boro be ShaytAniyeh! All of you little devils! :-)

****************
Not Satan
Not ShaytAn
Not Ahriman
---->Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
****************
From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Women in Iran
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:35:16 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Nov11.020320.16991@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bruce.Scott@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Scott) writes:
>minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>>... muslims used to be the rulers of the world, and we know that we shot
>>ourselves in the foot on many occasions to speed our downfall...

>How's this for cultural chauvanism, eh? I think the Chinese would
>dispute it -- muslims have always been barbarians in Chung Kuo.

And I certainly don't recall any Muslims in the Six Nations...


-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
nadja@weitek.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Lu Cifer)
Subject: Re: Culture and Women
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:26:42 GMT

In article <10NOV199209034964@rosie.uh.edu> cosc186y@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:
> Regarding this bitch Loren "I wish I was Iranian!" King,
>
>  Get the hell off of soc.culture.iranian! You don't know what the fuck
>you are talking about?            ^^^^^^^
>
>Satan

My children,

Whoever this person is, he/she is an impostor. I am your true Lord
Satan. 

Loren joon, don't listen to this person. I'll tell you what, as a small
gesture of good (i.e evil) will i'll make you an Iranian myself. In 
return I need one small favor. Can you make sure that Naghmeh "I wear
shorts in the streets of Boston, and still no one pays any attention to my legs.I wonder why?" Sohrabi (or whatever her last name is) wears her hejab, consisting of Chador siyah, maghna'eh and neghab, at all times. You can probably find herin any of the libraries at MIT on a saturday night.


-- 
ahriman
(aka Lucifer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian