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Subject: Re(2): Pathworks for PC Proxy Access
From: PUNGMS@STC10.CTD.ORNL.GOV
Date: 31 Dec 1992 12:16:41 -0500
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David Woodall at BITNET: DVWOODAL@TAYLORU responded with:

>PUNGMS@STC10.CTD.ORNL.GOV says:
>>        However, when I tried to do this yesterday, I could not find anyway
>>        to configure Pathworks on the PC so that it sends the Username
>>        information onto the VAX host system so that it can be recognized
>>        by the VMS SYSUAF Proxy table/utility.
>
>Username and password informaiton is stored in the PC's NCP database.  The
>Username can be stored for each known remote node.  For example:
>
>        NCP DEFINE NODE nodename USER user PASS password
>
>This information is used for ALL access to the node until it is cleared from
>the database with the command:
>
>        NCP PURGE NODE nodename USER
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Happy New Year!
>
>David

     Thanks for the response but I was already aware of the capability to set
     the Username/Password via NCP for a particular node.

     This method is not an acceptable as (1) the password is stored on
     the PC (security issue), (2) it requires more management when the
     password changes, and (3) does'nt allow the NFT default directory to be
     changed from the VAX side.

     What I am looking for is the way to configure a true PROXY account so
     that the USERNAME is sent to the remote VAX host and it verifies access
     via the VAX/VMS Proxy File/Utility.

                                                                Mike

 +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
 |        Mike Pung              |            (615) 574-8082                  |
 |  Martin Marietta Energy Sys.  |         Pun@Stc10.Ctd.Ornl.Gov             |
 |      Oak Ridge, TN            |             Pun@Ornl.Gov                   |
 |                               |            128.219.128.1                   |
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Subject: Serial Ethernet Adaptors
From: Gerald Samchuck <ICSGMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Date: 30 Dec 1992 10:12:20 -0700
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Has anyone come across adaptors which will connect a serial port on a PC to
ethernet (similar to Xircom's parallel to ethernet adaptor)?

Thanks,
-Gerry Samchuck
 Arizona State University
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:13:25 EST
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PathWorks Performance under Windows.


We recently got a new 486/50 EISA based machine to use as a PathWorks OS/2
server.  Simple benchmarks from DOS workstations showed it to be about 25%
faster than our existing 486/33 servers.  But we got a surprise when we
tried to load Windows applications from the server.  It took up to 3 times
as long to load applications off the fast server as it did off the older
slower server.  At first I suspected the new 3C509 ethernet card in the
server, and replaced it with a 3C503, and reinstalled PathWorks to make sure
that I hadn't made any mistakes.

After working with the problem, I realized that there was nothing wrong with
the server, it was just too fast for the workstation!  It was putting the
data on the wire so fast that the w/s couldn't keep up, and had to ask for a
retransmission.  I ran my tests on a 486/50 workstation, and the fast server
loaded apps faster than the slow server, as expected.

I replaced the 3C509 in my workstation with a 3C503/16 card, with shared
memory enabled, and Extra!  for Windows loaded in ~27 seconds, off the fast
server, and ~30 seconds off the slow server.  I disabled shared memory, and
now it took ~50 seconds to load off the fast server, while the slower server
still loaded in ~30 seconds.

I did try changing various PathWorks parameters on the workstation, but
they didn't seem to have a major effect on the performance. I changed the
NCP pipe quotas, and tried to set the Flow Control parameter on DNN, but
there was no obvious difference.

It looks like enabling Shared memory on our 3C503s would be a good idea,
(until fairly recently, the bottleneck always seemed to be on the VAX
end of the connection, so we've used the default settings for the 3C503,
ie shared memory disabled, but using OS/2 servers changes that). But before I
make plans to open a couple of hundred PCs, and change their jumper settings,
does anyone have any software suggestions for dealing with the problem I've
described? Pointers to good documentation on PathWorks tuning, especially
under Windows?

Aengus
--
RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
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Subject: Printer problems
From: Abel <ofabel@SI.UPC.ES>
Date: 24 Dec 1992 13:36:00 +0200
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     We are workin in a similar environment that is described in
a recent misage from Carl Makin.
 
     We want to share Postcript Printers between MAC's, PC's and
VMS users. For every type of user we've defined services associated
with the queues.
 
 
 
     The scheme is like this:
 
 
 
    PC user ------- Pathwork Printer Service ----VMS queue---
                                 "LASER"
 
                                                             LTA9999:
 
    MAC user ------ Pathwork for Macitosh -------VMS queue---
                    Printer Sevice
 
 
 
   When we created the queue of PC user, the default processor was the
LATSYM because it is a queue that is mapped on a port in a DECserver. In
the other hand, the processor associated with the MAC user is the
MSAP$SYMBIONT.
 
 
 
    We've talked with Digital's Support and they have said that the solution
is managing the queues by the Dec Print Printer Services. They are trying to
solve he problem without this product, but I think there is no solution because
diferent processors must be sinchronized (not obvious).
 
 
    If anyone has an installation with this features, please, send me a little
guide about how to use-define the structure to work with the printers.
 
    I will be in holidays during two weeks but the answers will be well-received
for my colleagues.
 
 
    Have a nice Christmas and a happy new year!!!!
 
 
   Abel Agelet
   Universitat Politecnica de Catalunya (SPAIN)
   ofabel@si.uc.es
 
end
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Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers
From: "Greg Siegert, System Administrator, ORD LAN"<SYSTEM%APACHE@EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV>
Date: 22 Dec 1992 10:08:40 -0500
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> >
> >Hi Pathwork Users.....
> >
> >I'm looking for a 2 port inexpensive parallel print server.
> >
> >I see the DECserver 250 in DECdirect... but this is a little two expensive
 for
> >our tastes.... and over kill for our application.....
> >
> >Thanks in advance.... any and all will be appreciated....
> >
> >Mark Montanez
> >
> It seems so obvious, doesn't it? All these ethernet ports for printers that
> have to support various versions of IPX, and remote printer stuff, and queue
> management, yet nobody seems to sell a simple LAT terminal server with a
> single parallel port for output. They've been making big one with lots of
> serial ports for years, so a little one with one or two parallel ports doesn't
> sound like too much to ask for, does it.......
>
> (So if anyone has an answer to Marks question, post it here for the rest of
> us too!)
>
 
     I think Emulex might have what you're looking for.  I'm about to start
     evaluating a single port print server called the 2501.  It supports
     TCP/IP.  Emulex provides a FAX Back capability on it's product line.
     You can call 800-EMULEX3 (800-368-5393) and respond to the prompts or
     call 714-662-5600 to talk to a Rep.  I hope this helps.
 
      Greg Siegert
 
      VAX Systems Manager
      Martin Marietta at EPA/WIC, Washington, DC
 
      Internet Address:  siegert.gregory@epamail.epa.gov
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Subject: Pathworks for PC Proxy Access
From: PUNGMS@STC10.CTD.ORNL.GOV
Date: 31 Dec 1992 09:19:56 -0500
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Hi,

        At one time in the past I configured (or at least I thought I did) a
        PC running Pathworks to utilize a Proxy access via NFT into a
        VAX/VMS system.

        However, when I tried to do this yesterday, I could not find anyway
        to configure Pathworks on the PC so that it sends the Username
        information onto the VAX host system so that it can be recognized
        by the VMS SYSUAF Proxy table/utility.

        In reading the manuals, I could not find any explicit mention of how
        to configure Pathworks/Nft for a Proxy type connection.

        Am I missing something easy?

                                                                Mike

 +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
 |        Mike Pung              |            (615) 574-8082                  |
 |  Martin Marietta Energy Sys.  |         Pun@Stc10.Ctd.Ornl.Gov             |
 |      Oak Ridge, TN            |             Pun@Ornl.Gov                   |
 |                               |            128.219.128.1                   |
 +-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
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Subject: RE: Pathworks TCP/IP on VAX with CMU/TEK
From: bachism <BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU>
Date: 22 Dec 1992 07:56:02 -0500
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We have it running with Multinet.
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Subject: <None>
From: fw_koef@NLTH01.DECNET.PHILIPS.NL
Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:06:23 +0100
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Are there any known applications to use with the Job Spawner, besides
FAL and DTR/DTS?
 
What I like to do is (you guessed it) connect to the PC from a VAX using
SET HOST <pc-node name>...
 
--
de Koef                                 fw_koef@nlth01.decnet.philips.nl
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Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers
From: HANKES@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU
Date: 23 Dec 1992 10:35:00 -0600 (CST)
X-Organization: University of Wisconsin--Platteville
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>> Look at the original message! The 250 is a terminal server, and priced as
>> such. The market is for a HP compatible expansion card that can be a LAT
>> device. I could set up a queue on the VAX, and plug my printer anywhere
 
>There is such a device.  That is, an HP compatible expansion card that can run
>LAT.  It is made by XCd Corp. and costs around $700.  You can reach XCd at
(714) 476-7855.
 
>> --
>> RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
>> RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
>> "How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
>> "Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
>>
 
>Alan Cantrell                                   cantrell@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
>Network Manager                                 CANTRELL@VUCTRVAX
>Vanderbilt University Computer Center
 
        For those interested, GoldKey Electronics is also offering a LAT
        Ethernet interface that will plug into an HP LaserJet IIIsi or HP
        LaserJet 4's expansion slot. They expect in a couple of months to have
        one available for the rest of the HP LaserJet III family.
 
        They have 2 models available. One offers automatic switching between
        PCL, Postscript, HP-GL, Sixel graphics and LN03 emulation. The other
        simply passes data through to the printer. Cost is $1295.00 for the
        auto-switching model and $895.00 for the other.
 
        I should add that we have not tried these out, but would be interested
        to hear from anyone who has. We are using some of their serial
        auto-switches and have found the quality and support to be very good.
        They do tend be pricey, but they are in a niche market. Their phone #
        is (603) 625-8518
 
        Stephan C. Hankes                 hankes@uwplatt.edu
        Hardware Technician
        University WI. Platteville
        Platteville, WI.  53818
        (608) 342-1204
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From: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: Re: Zenith 286 & PATHWORKS
Organization: Trent University, Ontario
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 17:12:47 GMT

In article <01GSYO8VWEQA8WW8LR@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> HENRY@VUCTRVAX.BITNET writes:
>Problem:  Keyboard entry disabled after STARTNET
>
>Configuration:
>        Zenith 80286
>        640K, 256K Zenith EMS
>        3C503-TP
>        DOS 5.0
>        Pathworks 4.1
>
>Routes already taken:
>        This machine has been configured with the 3C503 at the following:
>        Memory Base  C800, CC00, and DISABLED
>        I/O Base     300, 310, 330
>        IRQ          3, 5, 10(with a 3C509 NIC)
>
>The result of all of these configurations is the same. Upon executing DLLNDIS
>the keyboard is disabled. If I issue STARTNET.BAT the entire file will execute
>but that's it. If STARTNET.BAT is issued from AUTOEXEC.BAT it will execute
>STARTNET.BAT but will not return to the calling file.
>
>I have eliminated everything foreign from the CONFIG.SYS and used a plain
>"vanilla" configuration of PROTMAN.SYS, ELNKII.DOS, LASTDRIVE & SHELL. The
>same results are given as before.
>
>Does anyone out there have any experience with this type of problem? If
>so, how did you eliminate the problem?
>
>Any and all suggestions welcome.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>TC Henry, Network Management
>Vanderbilt University Computer Center
>Internet: henry@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
>BITNET: HENRY@VUCTRVAX

We have a few Zenith 286lp machines with 1mb RAM (actually 640K with 256
ZDS EMS) and Racal Interlan or DEC etherworks cards.  We have no
problems other than the propietary nature of ZDS hardware.  There are
several models of Zenith 286's and 286lp's, not all of which are
consistent.  I'm running native DLL not NDIS...of course there's a huge
memory hit on these beasts...the EMS frame cannot be moved.  However,
they do work under Pathworks without the problem you describe.  I did
need the assistance of Zenith tech folks though.  For example, the Racal
card functioned in some 286lps but not in others (go figure).  So, I'd
suggest getting in touch with ZDS tech folks...I'll send you a tel # if
you have trouble getting knowledgable people.  Son't know if this
assists...send me mail if you need more info.
-- 
Ken Brown                                   internet: kbrown@trentu.ca
Trent University Computing & Telecommunications  tel: (705)748-1540
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada, K9J 7B8           fax: (705)748-1246 
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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: DecWindows performance .vs. Pathworks?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A75BA9B3F4052631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:04:51 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:07:27 GMT



Quick question...

Does anyone out there use VAXELN (EWS) software to boot
off a Pathworks server?  I have a VT1300 that boots
off a 4500 that is also a Pathworks (Mac) server.

For some reason (even DEC is stumped), the Motif Windows
on my VT1300 freeze every couple of seconds.  This is
REALLY irritating since the window(s) freeze sometimes
for over 10-20secs.  When I boot off of any other VAX
that is not a Pathworks server, I have no problems.

Has anyone else heard of this problem?  

HELP!



-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
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From: NETMGR02@CBE.AB.CA (Glen Larwill, Computing Services, (403)294-8380)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: LAT Parallel Print Servers
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:01:00 GMT
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>>I'm looking for a 2 port inexpensive parallel print server.
>>
>>I see the DECserver 250 in DECdirect... but this is a little two expensive for
>>our tastes.... and over kill for our application.....
>>
>>Thanks in advance.... any and all will be appreciated....
>>
>>Mark Montanez
>>
>It seems so obvious, doesn't it? All these ethernet ports for printers that
>have to support various versions of IPX, and remote printer stuff, and queue
>management, yet nobody seems to sell a simple LAT terminal server with a
>single parallel port for output. They've been making big one with lots of
>serial ports for years, so a little one with one or two parallel ports doesn't
>sound like too much to ask for, does it.......
 
Terminal servers that contain parallel ports DO exist.  The DECServer 250
has 2 parallel ports and 4 asynch ports.  I have never used one, but I
don't imagine that they work much differently from the simple asynch
terminal servers.
 
 
 
     Glen Larwill, Network Technician,
     Calgary Board of Education
     Internet:   netmgr02@cbe.ab.ca
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Subject: Question about HP 4 and Postscript and Queues
From: David Woodall <DVWOODALL@TAYLORU.BITNET>
Date: 31 Dec 1992 08:51:00 -0500 (EST)
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Fellow Pathworkers,

I have a question about the HP LaserJet 4 (with Postscript support) and
VMS queue software.

I understand the the HP4 is auto-switching between PCL and PS.  If this
is true, do we need any special software on VMS to support the printer.

I am planning on attaching the printer to a Pathworks PC and controlling
it via LAT.

Thanks in advance,

David

------------------------------------------------------------
David Woodall                      BITNET: DVWOODAL@TAYLORU
Systems & Development Leader
Taylor University
Upland, IN
------------------------------------------------------------
From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Printer problems
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:11:30 +1100
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

(I've also mailed this directly)

>     We want to share Postcript Printers between MAC's, PC's and
>VMS users. For every type of user we've defined services associated
>with the queues.

>   When we created the queue of PC user, the default processor was the
>LATSYM because it is a queue that is mapped on a port in a DECserver. In
>the other hand, the processor associated with the MAC user is the
>MSAP$SYMBIONT.

MSAP$SYMBIONT will talk to LAT devices as well as AppleTalk
devices.  Look in your Pathworks for VMS (Macintosh) "Server
Administrator's Guide" Chapter 8.  Page 8.20 details how to
connect to a Terminal Server based LaserWriter.

>    We've talked with Digital's Support and they have said that the solution
>is managing the queues by the Dec Print Printer Services. They are trying to
>solve he problem without this product, but I think there is no solution because
>diferent processors must be sinchronized (not obvious).

No, you can use the one symbiont, MSAP$SYMBIONT, to run the
queue.  You only need 1 queue and you can print to it from all 3
platforms.  Digital Support, as usual, are spinning you a tale.

The steps to define the service are basically simple;

1) Define the LAT LTAnnnn device.
2) Define the Pathworks for VMS (Macintosh) print service. 
     Specify the printer as a LaserWriter.  PfVMS will create the
     queue for you.
3) Define the Pathworks for VMS (DOS) print service. When it asks
   you for a form name put PS_PLAIN.  This is IMPORTANT!

What you will end up with is

PC -------> Pathworks  ---
                           \
                            - VMS queue -> MSAP$SYMBIONT ->LTAnnn
                           /
Mac ------> Pathworks  ---

Your Macs will see an AppleTalk Laserwriter and your PC's will
see a network LPT connection.  We tell our PC's they are talking
to an Apple LaserWriter. 

I have had real problems with MSAP$SYMBIONT and spooled LTA
devices.  If MSAP$SYMBIONT fails to recognise your LTAnnn device
then make sure you
SET DEVICE LTAnnn /NOSPOOLED

Carl.
-- 
Carl Makin, MVS/ESA Systems Programmer, VAX/VMS Dabbler. 
Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services, Canberra, Australia.
makinc@hhcs.gov.au		   -   Internet
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Subject: RE: White paper on Windows for Workgroups & Pathworks
From: Maria Rosa Drake <MARIA@SERVAX.BITNET>
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:23:00 +0000 (GMT)
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I also had a problem receiving it. I'm very interested in reading
this paperr.
 
Maria Rosa Drake
Florida International University
Bitnet:         MARIA@SERVAX.BITNET
Internet:       MARIA@SERVAX.FIU.EDU
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Subject: Lose of attached services
From: "Greg Siegert, System Administrator, ORD LAN"<SYSTEM%APACHE@EPAVAX.RTPNC.EPA.GOV>
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:54:41 -0500
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Happy Holiday Greetings to everyone!

  I've got a question which I'm hoping that someone out there
  might be familiar with.  There is an isolated group of workstations
  set up running Pathworks on my network that is in close proximity to
  some electro-magnetic interferrence (EMI) in the form of some high
  voltage electrical wiring that runs through an existing wall.

  The workstations (WS) are IBM PS2 Mod/70s and IBM clone 486s.  We are
  running Windows v3.1 on most of the WSs as well as Dos 5 on all the WSs.
  We are using 10-Base-T wiring which connects to a DEC Repeater 90T which
  in term, is plugged into a DEC Hub. The DEC Hub is located in the same
  area as the affected WSs.

  The problem is that periodically during the day the WSs will loose
  connections to services that they were previously attached to, i.e,
  when you type "USE" at the dos prompt "ERROR" appears to the left of the
  service that was lost.  Its easy to reconnect but that's not the solution.

  Has anyone else had this experience and if so please point me in the right
  direction on what to do to fix it.

  Many thanks in advance!


 Greg Siegert
 VAX SA
 Martin Marietta at EPA/WIC, Washington, DC

 Internet Address:  siegert.gregory@epamail.epa.gov
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From: Huy_Le@mindlink.bc.ca (Huy Le)
Subject: Re: Lose of attached services
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:31:31 GMT

>  ...set up running Pathworks on my network that is in close proximity to
>  some electro-magnetic interferrence (EMI) in the form of some high
>  voltage electrical wiring that runs through an existing wall...

>  We are using 10-Base-T wiring which connects to a DEC Repeater 90T which
>  in term, is plugged into a DEC Hub. The DEC Hub is located in the same
>  area as the affected WSs.

>  The problem is that periodically during the day the WSs will loose
>  connections to services that they were previously attached to...

Isn't 10-Base-T wire vulnerable to EMI? Maybe the EMI is interfering
with your ethernet signals and causing the workstations to timeout.
If this is the case, then you need to get shielding either for the HV
wires or use coaxial cable for you network.

Huy Le
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