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From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Re: Questions from Australia.
Organization: Echo Beach
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 00:56:32 GMT

Someone else observed that Canadian spelling is a hybrid of UK and US
spelling.

In article <1992Aug23.215654.29254@ccu.umanitoba.ca> tdubins@nickel.cs.umanitoba.ca (Tom Dubinski) writes:
>
>But Canadian print media (newspapers, magazines...) favour the US spellings.
>Unfortunately.

Newspaper owners like to save money. Using U.S. spelling and style
(or, more specifically, the spelling and style of the Associated Press,
the major U.S. news agency) allows them to run AP wire copy unedited.
This is part of the reason most Canadian newspapers do not normally use
honorifics like "Mr." and "Ms.".

I think it was sometime in the 1950s that news agencies started to deliver
stories to their newspaper clients in machine-readable form (if that term
is appropriate for punched tape that could be fed into a mechanical
typesetting machine). 

The [Toronto] Globe and Mail uses honorfics except in sports stories.
The Toronto Star normally indentifies people by their full names once
in a story, and then only by their surnames without an honorific. The
exception is in obituaries, where the Star still uses honorifics.
Some small-town newspapers will use wire copy without honorifics, but will
include honorifics in the stories their own staff write.

English-language student newspapers in Canada generally use Canadian
spellings (colour, honour, etc.).
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From: dstewart+@cs.cmu.edu (David B Stewart)
Subject: Re: Allophones?
Cc: dstewart
Organization: The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:19:36 GMT

In article <BtLu9L.DMo@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (elm) writes:
>Just a question:  where did this name come from?  Is it anything to do with
>'Allo' (colloq. for 'bonjour').
> 
>
>(Allophone := Quebecker whose mother tongue is neither French nor English)

Isn't it defined as "Quebecker whose mother tongue is neither French nor
English, but whose first of those two languages is English"?

I might be wrong, but that is the way I always understood it.

~dave

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From: srklump@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (elm)
Subject: Allophones?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:03:20 GMT

Just a question:  where did this name come from?  Is it anything to do with
'Allo' (colloq. for 'bonjour').
 

(Allophone := Quebecker whose mother tongue is neither French nor English)


Stephen.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: u-lchoqu%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Lee Choquette)
Subject: Re: Usenet says US=Canada
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:11:31 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: can

In article <1992Aug27.023117.12364@ccu.umanitoba.ca> feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca
(Michael Feld) writes:
 > Sometime back I posted a note to another group, with the hope that it
 > would be read in the US, but not in Canada. [...]
 > So, for "distribution" in the header, I, of course, typed "US".
 > And, of course, the note appeared in Canada as well.
 > Usenet makes no apparent distinction between "na" and "US". [...]

I don't think Usenet software is considering Canada as part of the US, it's
just that the Distribution feature works spottily, if at all.  I'm always
seeing articles in other newsgroups announcing a local gathering in some other
part of the world, and I always think, Why didn't the poster restrict the
distribution?  Then I see that the poster did specify a local distribution,
but the article propagated around the world anyway.  Witness the fact that I
saw your article here in the US, even though you posted it with ``can''
distribution.  I wonder how many people in Europe or Australia saw it.
  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
   . . . . Lee Choquette . . . . . . . . . . I *love* work . . . . . . . . .
  . . u-lchoqu@peruvian.utah.edu. . . . I could watch it all day. . . . . .
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Denis - Please post
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:33:58 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Aug28.081447.3657@darwin.ntu.edu.au> (Lisa Nixon) writes:
>Denis:
>
>Sorry for the personal plea, but would you please post the names of the
>other victim at Concordia?  I am assuming Prof Zhiogas died and I know Mike
>Hogben was one other.  I can't get any news here in Darwin and I'm
>concerned about friends/ex colleagues at Concordia.  Thank you.
>
>Lisa Nixon

The presumed killer:
Valery Fabrikant, 52 years, prob. Mechanical Eng.

The victims:
Matthew Douglas, 65 years, Civil Eng.
Aaron Jan Saber, 46 years, Mechanical Eng.
Michael Hogden, 53 years, Chemical Eng.

Injured, was no more in critical conditions Saturday
Phoivos Ziogas, 48 years, Dept. not given
A secretary, no name given in Saturday's La Presse

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
From: smack@sol.UVic.CA (Susan Mackey)
Subject: Calling Croatian Cultural Commentators :-)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:21:28 GMT

Hello,

I'm posting to help a prof. here at UVic get some recent cultural/geographical
information on Croatia. Basically he's looking for information that could 
be used to test someone elses current knowledge of the area.  He will be
testing people who are being interviewed prior to being sent overseas.

Any help would be appreciated,
Thank you
Sue Mackey



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I may be speaking from the University of Victoria, but, I'm certainly not
speaking for them.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
From: pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M)
Subject: Caveat
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:03:04 GMT

	After browsing a number of the soc.culture groups
	(attempting to catch up on global events :-)
	I believe it is not unfair of me to suggest
	that the following message be posted periodically
	to each soc.culture group:

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                                 WARNING!!!

                            REVISIONISTS AT WORK

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pssres12@ucs.usl.edu	Gerard Vignes, USL PO Box 42709, Lafayette LA 70504 USA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: plm@reggae.cam (Paul L. Mowatt)
Subject: "Going to Extremes"
Organization: /bdfs/users/plm/.organization
Distribution: soc
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:01:25


Did anyone else see the premier of "Going to Extremes" on ABC (10pm Tues.).
It features several Jamaican actors, including Oliver Samuels.  It'll be
a weekly 1 hour show filmed entirely in Jamdown.  If you saw it let us know
what you think.  Everyone I saw it with enjoyed it.


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Subject: Grenada carnival
From: <MISHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 10:25:29 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi to my fellow West Indians
           Does anyone have news from the Grenada Carnival? I Know that Ajamu
won the monach competition and Valarie won the Queen show. Does anyone know who
 won the road march competition? Did anyone visit Grenada recently? How is the
state of affairs on the island. I heard on the news that they are looking for
Grenadian Nationals to purchase shares of N.C.B. Does anyone have more info on
that. Please E.mail with info if available.
                                            Thank You
                                                     Michelle
From: judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: "Going to Extremes"
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:50:57 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <PLM.92Sep2090125@reggae.cam> plm@reggae.cam (Paul L. Mowatt) writes:
>
>Did anyone else see the premier of "Going to Extremes" on ABC (10pm Tues.).
>It features several Jamaican actors, including Oliver Samuels.  It'll be
>a weekly 1 hour show filmed entirely in Jamdown.  If you saw it let us know
>what you think.  Everyone I saw it with enjoyed it.
>
>
>	My husband and I loved the show.  It was great the way "island life"
	was depicted, seemed much more realistic than the usual Hollywood
	treatment.  I'm hoping for a future episode in which the character
	"Kym" is discovered to be having a serious affair with a local
	character played by Grace Jones.  Wouldn't they be a great couple?


			Bye, Judy.

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From: acosta@smaug.Eng.Sun.COM (Joe Acosta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Travel to Bbados
Date: 2 Sep 1992 19:37:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, LA, Ca.
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: smaug


Hello,

My wife (who is Bajun) and I are planning to take a trip to Barbados
this x-mas vacation.  I need suggestions as to obtaining inexpensive
airfare during this PEAK time period.

			Thanks in advance
				Joe Acosta
From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Update: damage from Andrew in the Bahamas
Summary: Severe damage on Eleuthera
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:42:31 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California


I have just heard from friends that ZNS TV showed a special last
night of damage to Eleuthera, and that they will show another
installment tonight. The situation on North Eleuthera is very, very
bad. They are still assessing the loss of life.

The storm surge was greater than 16 feet. The towns of Current and
Bogue are nearly completely destroyed. The Current Club hotel is
gone, totally gone. On Harbour Island, the Coral Sands hotel is
completely gone. The Glass Window Bridge is completely gone.
The Royal Navy clocked wind speeds off Eleuthera at >200 mph!!

Please, if you can, make a contribution to the Red Cross or the
disaster relief fund at the Bahamian Embassy.

Valerie Maslak
From: andy-w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Andrew webster)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: bahamas and hurricane andrews
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 11:27:53 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

- So we can't blame only the producers (TV), but the consumers (the american 
- public)
- 
- 
- Just give me soca...I love my soca...
- 
- 
- 
- Evans.-

_____________________________________________________________________
Ya, just give me SOCA, I too LOVE my SOCA!!!!
__________________________________________________________________________

Andrew webster              andy-w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: "Going to Extremes"
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:11:14 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: UB

In article <PLM.92Sep2090125@reggae.cam> plm@reggae.cam (Paul L. Mowatt) writes:
>
>Did anyone else see the premier of "Going to Extremes" on ABC (10pm Tues.).
>It features several Jamaican actors, including Oliver Samuels.  It'll be
>a weekly 1 hour show filmed entirely in Jamdown.  If you saw it let us know
>what you think.  Everyone I saw it with enjoyed it.

>|Paul Mowatt               plm@reggae.cam.bellcore.com  "Materialism is wrong,

	I thought it was a movie at first. But, it was a good show, much more
'authentic' than usual US productions. And featuring Burning Flames' Island 
Girl didn't hurt! So, is Oliver a regular or what? 

-- 
Patrice Simon
simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
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From: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: MUTA
Reply-To: nvw8292@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:33:32 GMT

Does anyone know where I *CAN* get copies of Mutabarka's tapes and
books to buy or order through the mail.  I am all the way up in Rochester-
upstate NY where dem tings virtually unheard of.  Isn't that a shame!

Anyway, maybe some one knowing of such items in NY city or Toronto end
can help my search.  It's ironic that the message that I just read has a
quote from the great man himself.

Thanks. Peace
From: itzel@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Itzel Mc Claren)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: re: bahamas and hurricane andrews
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:53:09 GMT
Reply-To: itzel@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Itzel Mc Claren)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: itzel@happy.cc.utexas.edu

Someone mentioned in a previous article that they are angry about the coverage
of the Bahamian situation on USA television...  This is not new.  We all know
that here in the USA, if the USA is involved, they do not care about the rest
of the world.  Just remember the coverage of the Olympic games on TV.
From: bacchus@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Emran Bacchus)
Subject: guyana election: 13 years after the 1979 Dec uprising
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:57:49 GMT


I wish to thank those who have offered a positive feedback; on behalf of
those who have been and those who are still on the front lines. This post is
response to some serious questions posed.


Since Pres. dessie (hoyte) and the hijackers of Guyanese democracy lost the
ability to repress, Guyana's other old party has been pretending that the  
Election fight is between htem and the RULERS. The RULERS ,of course , fostered
that notion as it allowed them to play 'race'. Since then, the effort to 
marginalise the W.P.A. (the party of RODNEY) has intensified. Stabroek News
became a part of this effort by its actions. Finally its publisher was seen
campaigning for the P.P.P.  Thus when it finally acknowledged the W.P.A. AS
A SERIOUS contender it only coming to terms with realty. It made the day for
the multiracial vote! The P.N.C. is still in the contest is expected to pull
about 10 % of the vote. The P.P.P. is the only party that is guaranteed a
fixed vote; this is about 30 % . It is not expected to do too much better than
that unless the W.P.A screws up in a big way.

C
Much of the P.P.P. 's  30 % is from Indo- Guyanese voters of the 1960's 
crowd . However 60 % of the electorate has never voted before. The P.P.P.
does not enjoy the backing of the Indo-Guyanese as it once had. One of this
reason is that Dr. Jagan is still at the helm; having resisted attempts to
renew the leadership many times.

Since Dr. Walter Rodney (Walter to many) was assasinated  June 13,1980 by the
Government the 	W.P.A. 's  mantle was most visible through Dr. Roopnarine and
Mr. Eusi Kwayana. However the collective nature of the leadership remains.
This now has young people like Wazir Mohamed, Karen De-Souza, along with
Tacuma Ogunsaye, Moses Bhagwan ( lawyer), Prof. Clive. Thomas (economist and 
Scholar) , Dr. Josh Ramsammy( biologist) Bonita Harris ( ex-teacher).
The party structure has changed to account for a parliamentary struggle and
it is now beginning to assert itselflocally in a fashion that would make Walter
proud. Much of its energy was devoted ,in the last 8 years, to lobbying for
foreign presssure on the 30 year old DICTATORSHIP; as an alternative to armed
strugle. 
Sometime ago, I read a series of articles on the net where people were expresingfrustration at not being able to do anything. This election offers a myriad
of oppurtunities for those who truly want to do anything other than talk!
The magic of Rodney was his ability to get people to do things for htem selves!!In many cities structures can be found to allow for this. A democratic multi-
racial Guyana offers many oppurtunities. Peace until I return im two weeks...

Much of the P.P.P. 's  30 % is In
From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Effect of Andrrew on the Bahamas....
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:20:34 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <BtHo15.8Kp@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> dpbradsh@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Dexter P. Bradshaw) writes:
>Does anyone know the extent of damage that hurricane Andrew incurred on the Bahamas? The news networks up here are preoccupied with its effects of the storm on Southern Florida and areas around the Gulf of Mexico. Any news about damage and casualties within the Bahamas will be much appreciated.
>
>Dex
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>Dept. of Computer Science  | for a better life in our region...
>University of Waterloo     | that must be the ambition of the
>Waterloo, Ont. N2L 3G1.    | Caribbean man...Black Stalin.

I have been in touch with folks on Central Andros. The eye passed about 50
miles north of Nichol's Town, so Andros escaped major damage.
They were prepared for the worst. But they say the dry rage from
Hurricane Bob last year was worse than Andrew there.  Phones were out for
several hours, but that's all.

Dexter, from what I've heard, the area of real damage is confined to
the north end of Eleuthera and maybe the south end of Abaco. There was one
death in Bogue. Total deaths at this time are reported to be four,
but I don't know where on Eleuthera the others were. ZNS has had only
one film of the damaged area on North Eleuthera: a small-plane overflight
that didn't show much. The Red Cross and Bahamaian disaster relief
personnel are on Eleuthera now. Many roads are out.

It may be *very* bad in Harbour Island and Spanish Wells.
The eye passed directly over that area. Rough water forced them to
stop evacuations by ferry so people were stuck.
The film on ZNS evidently showed huge piles of sea sand thrown up
onto the hill above the harbor at Spanish Wells.

Bimini also took a close hit from the eye
but damage there is not reported to be as severe. 

In Nassau, there was some slight damage but not like Florida.
Antennas and shingles blown off, that sort of thing.  Folks out near
Cable Beach and Lyford Cay had trees down, but no high water.
Bahamasair flew all their planes down to Inagua for safekeeping;
they are back on flights now.

I am very angry that there has been no international coverage
of the Bahamas. The damage to the areas that took the direct shot
could be as bad as Florida. I'm not sure whether the Bahamas is
trying to downplay it, or whether the US news is just not giving it
any news time. 

Evidently a disaster relief fund has been set up at the Bahamian 
Embassy in Washington, D.C.  Contributions to:

Disaster Relief
C/o Emabassy of the Bahamas
2220 Massachusetts Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20008
 
or the International Red Cross.

Given the state of the Bahamian economy,  they need all the help
they can get.

Please, if you hear any more, post it here.

Valerie Maslak


Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: hs2322g92@auvax1
Subject: Info On The Garinagu (Black Caribs)
Organization: Adelphi University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:57:00 GMT

Hello my name is Harriet and I am a new user.  I was born in Belize, formerly
known as British Honduras.  Belize is a small country in Central America.  It
is bordered north and south by Mexico, south and west by Guatemala and in the 
east by the Caribbean Sea. There are several ethnic groups in Belize. The
Creole, Mestizo, Garifuna (Black Caribs) and the Maya.

A couple weeks ago I did my first posting on the Garifunas.  The Garifuna are
known as the Caribs who intermingled with the African slaves when a slaver was
wrecked on the coast of St.Vincent. The Caribs, lead by our chief Chatoyer
(sa-tu-yeh) joined with the African slaves and fought against the Spaniards on 
the island of St.Vincent. The Caribs lost the war and were exiled.  Most went 
to Dominica, Roatan, the Bay of Honduras, Guatemala and Belize.  In southern 
Belize there are several Garifuna communities, and Dangriga Town is known as 
the home of all the Garifunas. On the 19th of November in Belize all Garifunas 
celebrate the arrival of the Garinagu (Black Caribs) in Belize.

Garifuna language is today still a language that is spoken especially in 
Belize, Honduras and Guatemala.  The Garifuna language is a mixture of French, 
English, Spanish and other African languages. Many of the children who migrated
to the United States no longer speak our language.  Today many of the elders in
our community are trying very hard to teach us our lost heritage.

As far as I can remember our staple food is cassava (ereba). We
have several ital foods known as Hudut(fufu), Tapou and Bundiga just to name a
few.  We have several cultural dances such as the wanarwagua, hugu-hugu and  
punta, which is a very popular and flirtatious dance. The popular hit
"Belizean, Mek We Punta" by Calypso Rose alludes to this cultural reality.
We also have a ritual call the Dugu, which can be compared to the Voodun of
Haiti.   Please be advised that I did not post all I know about the 
Garinagu because I am stating some knowledge I obtained growing up in the 
Garifuna Community in Dangriga.  I am also willing to hear or compare new 
findings etc. Look around though, chances are that one of your neighbours may
be Belizean and you simply did not know.  Peace.
>Harriet
From: judy@technology.com (Judy McMillin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: "Going to Extremes"
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:53:15 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

Scott, maybe they don't call the island "jamaica" because Jamaica is 
not quite as backward as "janique".  Also, I think Jamaica has a national
health service and that might not fit into the story line.


		Just a thought.  Judy
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