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From: darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: John Davidson's comments on new rule changes
Keywords: new rules, John Davidson
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:09:33 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:

> First he said that the fight instigator rule is not strong enough.  He felt
> that the instigator of the fight should not only be thrown out of the 
> current game but the following game as well to be really effective.

How about this for an idea: Make it a 60 MINUTE suspension.  This prevents
the tendency to "go for broke" in the last 4 minutes of a game, making a
game misconduct meaningless.

By this system, if you were tossed 15 minutes into period 1, you'd miss the
rest of that game, and not be allowed onto the bench in your team's NEXT
game until 15 minutes into the first.

This would make duration of suspension consistent.  I'm not saying it would
necessarily be the best thing for THIS rule, but it might make game
misconducts in general a more significant punishment.

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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: nhl.c update
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:36:45 GMT
Organization: UB

Update:  Our unix has been up and down like a yo-yo.  When it has been
up I haven't had a moment to even venture into the subdirectory where
I'm keeping all the files.  I found a whole heap of schedules in my
mailbox when I logged in for the first time since Friday but haven't
had time to do a single thing with nhl.c due to either lack of time or
lack of fully functional account.  I plan to try to get some work done
on it in the next half hour or so and maybe get another schedule in.
I can't remember when the last time I worked on it was, sorry.  It's
been a busy week at work, and I've actually received a few hours,
though it's still not a real, full-fledged job.

Progress has been made, and the following schedules still aren't
around:


Boston road, Chicago road.

Period. I have all the rest (thanks everyone, esp. Glenn Chin who
provided several that I finally got to see this afternoon when I got
back into my account.).  

I heard that USA Today had a full schedule the other day, maybe I can
track the info down in my local library.  I'll see tonight or tomorrow
night if I don't get the info from anyone else.

The real enemy right now is time, as it's the beginning of the
semester, which is, here at UB's computing center, the equivalent of
Christmastime to stores.  

Anyway, as it stands, things were abandoned about a week due to chaos
and systems down and power failures to the entire campus, including
the computers, and a whole assortment of unusual excuses.  


Here we go again . . .

-- 
Valerie Hammerl               	Underemployed technical writer seeks
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu        job in North America.  Willing to 
v085pwpz@ubvms.bitnet           relocate.  Can begin any time.
SUNY at Buffalo ASCIT Consultant for yet another semester (sigh).
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: all-star break
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:08:18 GMT
Organization: UB


The all-star game is being held February 6 in Montreal, but can
someone tell me the range of dates for the all-star break?  This may
be obvious if I looked at a full schedule but I'm tired and I'm
getting sick of looking at printouts of schedules so I'm asking.  

For anyone else who wants to know, nhl.c is progressing, with 2 1/2
games entered this morning and part of one last night.  That means
that so far the following are in the program:
Buffalo, Calgary, Edmonton, Los Angeles (1/2), NY Rangers, Ottawa,
Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, San Jose, Tampa Bay, Toronto, Washington.

I have all the other schedules, just need to clone myself, find free
time, etc. to put them in.  By my calculations I'll be over half done
by my lunch half hour.  I'll continue to plod through the other twelve
schedules as time permits.  Sorry if the pace is slow, but I don't
have a computer at home and only do these when I'm on campus and am
not busy.  I don't want to compound the errors that already were in
some of the schedules by rushing.  Besides, I'm doing this for free,
so you'd better not complain ;-)  


As for those of you who asked about my still being here well beyond
August 24th, well, I don't have another job so I'm taking a night
course and continuing work here in the daytime part time.  Part-time
being getting paid 20 hours and working thirtysome hours and having
the rest held until the next payperiod that I work under twenty.  
At this rate I'll be getting paid four months after I leave :-)
But that's all irrelevant.  

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v085pwpz@ubvms.bitnet           relocate.  Can begin any time.
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Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 09:08:59 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bad Hair Days/Tyrants


Stan Macasieb writes:

>In the Tempo section of today's _Chicago Tribune_, writer Barbara Mahany
>has a humorous article on "tyrants of world repute" and their bad pates.
> 
>Among the list of world dictators taken to task for their hair include
>Zaire President Mobutu Sese Seko, China's Deng Xioaping, Cuba's Fidel
>Castro, and Blackhawks GM Mike Keenan.

Thanks for posting this.  I love a few good chuckles in the morning.

I don't know what's more humorous here -- Keenan being on a "bad hair"
list or a "world dictator" list.  

Mom.


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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Hawks Stuff
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:20:36 GMT

Good news on the contract front:

Steve Smith and Stephane Matteau were both signed today to long-term contracts
today.


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From: DLM155@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL on ESPN deal is official
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:37:07 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Does anyone know ifcertain games will be blanked out in premium chanel markets?
 For example, in the Philly area, Prism gets Flyer+Sixer home games. TNT gets b
lanked out for Sixer home games, but NBC is allowed to televise them. If ABC do
es choose to run a few, what will happen?
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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: Fights are boring
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:11:29 GMT

In article 714924250@craft.camp.clarkson.edu, farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell) writes:
>I have one reason for disliking fighting, it's not because I'm a pacifist
>or am worried about the NHL's prospects of getting a TV contract. It's
>because 95% of fights are boring. Most are just guys grabbing and wrestling
>each other and landing few punches to unpadded areas. They just waste time
>and take for ever to clean up the ice and hand out penalties afterwards.
>If you have SR tickets, a fight-marred game is even worse. Very rarely do
>you get a good fight so they generally detract from the game.
>

A good fight? Have them before the game so that the director can edit in
the good stuff during pregame, like the fight before the Chicago-Minnesota
game in 1991. Then we don't have to worry about delays during the game. :)

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From: vv1@dgp.toronto.edu (Marc J. Ouellette)
Subject: Re: Hockey demographics in Canada
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:14:21 GMT

832989@SKUL.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin) writes:

>There was a story on women in sports Monday night on TSN (replay?).  It reported
>that of 103,000 9-year-old boys registered with the CAHA as hockey players, only
>8000 remained at age 21.  In comparison, 600 9-year-old girls played hockey, and
>that number rose to 4000 by age 21!  I never knew there were so many women
>playing hockey in Canada.  Andria, if you read this, please feel free to provide
>more details.
If it's the show I think you're talking about, it was a re-run, and it was
called "For the Love of the Game: You've Come a Long Way Baby."  Actually,
Andria appeared in this show.  She plays at the University of Toronto, and
they showed part of their practice.  Their information is accurate.  The
one thing that I think that they don't take into account is that a lot of
guys play pick up hockey, and aren't registered.  I suspect they were only
referring to registered players.  Just my theory though.

BTW, Andria's team, the Toronto Dragons, is defending their Canadian Women's
Ball Hockey Championship in Richmond, BC!  Andria got both goals in their
2-0 win over Newfoundland.  In their other game, the Dragons tied 2-2 with
the Richmond Vikings, BC provincial champs.

Marc
Marc
From: rleite@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy W Leite)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Olympic Marathon Trivia
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:14:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University

During the Barcelona Olympics, NBC broadcast a story about a runner who 
originally won a gold medal in the marathon only to have it taken away when it 
was discovered he rode part of the distance in a car.  I remember the story but
cannot remember the name of the runner, the year of the Olympics or other 
details.  Can anyone provide me with pertinent information?
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From: jgtsai@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jane Tsai)
Subject: Address for Atlanta 96 merchandise?
Summary: looking for the t-shirt...
Keywords: Atlanta, merchandise
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:10:48 GMT

Does anyone know where I might be able to write or e-mail to, to
get some info on buying some Atlanta '96 olympics merchandise?
I'm mainly looking for the t-shirts...

Thanks...


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From: sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Address request
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:47:53 GMT

Sorry if this has been done to death, but I'd like to know how
to write to members of the US women's gymnastics team. I
specifically need the address part (the actual writing I can
handle myself).

If there's anyone still around who can help, I'd appreciate it.

Steve
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
From: wex@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul M. Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: IOC has been sold
Originator: wex@bigmax.ulowell.edu
Reply-To: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: Univ. of Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:53:35 GMT


In article <25@hymir.mlb.dmt.csiro.au>, gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Geoff Lamb) writes:

|> . . .   The only thing going against it is that it is in the
|> Southern Hemisphere, and as some people have already pointed out in this group
|> "it would be weird to see the sports out of season" which would mean less TV
|> dollars.

Actually, I believe that the move to put the Winter Olympics in
their current 2 year alternation with the Summer Olympics makes
Southern Hemisphere Olympics more attractive (Downhill Sat AM, (NBC) 
Pole Vault Sat PM (CBS) -- same day !!??).

I think it would be nice to have Summer Olympics to watch during the
(northern H. winter) (But the Rams vs. Vikings would outdraw them all
I'm afraid.)

PS. who got the gold in the Tractor Pull?
-- 
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.

	...Wex
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: IOC has been sold
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:12:09 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <25@hymir.mlb.dmt.csiro.au> gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Geoff Lamb) writes:
>     Montreal - 72

That's 1976.  Munich was '72.
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: IOC has been sold
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:42:23 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <26@hymir.mlb.dmt.csiro.au> gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Geoff Lamb) writes:
>I would have been happier if Melbourne got the 96 games. Melbourne's bid had
>everything going for it. Most people in Australia thought that the opposition
>was going to come from Athens. 
>
>..........But in stepped Coca-Cola with their big cheque book.

I think that if any company was a factor in making the IOC decide
to give the 1996 games to Atlanta, it was Turner Broadcasting, rather
than Coca-Cola.  CNN has turned Atlanta into a center for worldwide
communication, and Ted Turner has been producing his own version of
the Olympics (The Goodwill Games) for quite a few years now.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov



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From: htr@world.std.com (Helena T Robinson)
Subject: Re: '68 Gymanastics competition (was Arrogance and the Olympics)
Summary: more about Cathy Rigby
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:37:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.160918.22244@bnlux1.bnl.gov> KARLIN@BNLCL6.BNL.GOV (P.L. Cowan) writes:
>
>Actually the evolution of US interest in gymnastics is somewhat interesting.
>I was a big fan in 1964 (college men's gymnastics was very popular at Penn
>State, but almost nowhere else in the US). I was very disappointed when there
>was no TV coverage of gymnastics in 1964 (NONE!) I think the only reason that
>ABC covered gymnastics at all in 1968 was because they anticipated political
>interest due to the competition between Caslovska and the USSR team. While they
>had their cameras there they off-handedly showed Cathy Rigby who was 14 (a rare
>thing in those days) and the youngest member of the US Olympic team. Apparently
>she was popular with the viewers, because ABC Wide World of Sports began to
>show gymnastics fairly frequently, especially Rigby.
>
>By 1972, ABC had built her up as a favorite, but she was out of it early in the
>competition. Obviously, ABC had a schedule to fill so they started showing 
>the worlds best, the USSR team, and Olga took it from there.

The reason Rigby had received such build-up was because she was the first 
American to earn a medal in the World Championships (silver or bronze in 
beam in 1971).

Helena Robinson
htr@world.std.com
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From: tordm@vana (Tord Malmgren)
Subject: 100, 200 and 400[m] results
Reply-To: TordM@VanD.PhySto.SE
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Stockholm -- Sweden
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:45:48 GMT


 hello! could somebody mail me or post the results of the 100, 200 and 400[m]
finals for men from the Olympics of -92 ?? I'd rather all 8 times in each
race -- thanks in advance!




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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: Manchester in 2000
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Distribution: world ,local
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:18:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.000045.3631@arizona.edu>, aronson@helios.ece.arizona.edu (John Aronson) writes:
> 
> 	Hey... if the games were held in the southern hemishere, durring July 
> and August, could we really call them the Summer Games?  Thats the dead of 
> winter!             
> 
> 				Mr Climatology,

You don't live up to your name....  Check out the Sydney temperatures for late
August/early September and see if it is Spring to you mate...

Oh, remember the lyrics to Amigos Para Siempre?

Rod
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From: gewilson@eos.ncsu.edu (Buddha)
Subject: Re: Address request
Originator: gewilson@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: gewilson@eos.ncsu.edu (Greg Wilson)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:52:39 GMT




	Steve,

	  I would be very appreciative if you (or someone else) could
email me addresses for the Olympic Athletes.  Thank you very much.



						Greg Wilson


	gewilson@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: htr@world.std.com (Helena T Robinson)
Subject: Re: Classic Quotes of the Olympics
Summary: ...about the statue...
Keywords: quote nbc cmt
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:18:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.155800.16913@cs.tulane.edu> newcomb@navo.navy.mil (Don Newcomb) writes:
>
>The last Friday of the games one of the US Water Polo team members
>was being interviewed on NBC's Today Show. He had also served
>as the model for the nude male statue at the entrance of the '84
>games in LA. At the end of the interview the female commentator
>for NBC (#include <name>) said, "Well, it has been good to see
>you with your clothes on, for a change."
>
>Did anyone else see/hear this?

Yup...part of my daily morning routine while home on disability was watching 
NBC in the morning (with an occasional bounce to Triplecast).

Anyway, Katie Couric actually said that to Terry Schroeder.  One of the Sports 
Illustrated issues that came out during the Olympics included a feature about 
Terry and had some comments about being asked to pose for the statue.

BTW, the model for the female statue has never been publicly identified to my 
knowledge - and neither have I ever heard any speculation.

Helena Robinson
htr@world.std.com

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From: htr@world.std.com (Helena T Robinson)
Subject: Re: Arrogance and the Olympics
Summary: remembering 1968
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:09:35 GMT

In article <133218@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
(in part)
>Does anybody remember a single thing about the gymnastics competition
>in Mexico City in 1968?

I do, I do!  As a matter of fact, that' probably the first gymnastics event I 
can distinctly recall, such as it was.  The most vivid memory for me was 
watching Vera Caslavska (sp?) of Czech. tying for gold in one of the event 
finals with a Russian.  Recall this is following the August invasion of Prague, 
so relations between the two nations were less than pleasant.  I remember the 
victory ceremony, the two women sharing the top step, two flags raised side by 
side, two anthems to be played.  The Czech anthem was played first.  When the 
Russian anthem began, Vera turned her head away from viewing the flags and 
looked downward.  Powerful image.

The other thing that struck me back then, especially when comparing things to 
what we know of today, is that most floor exercise routines were done to piano 
accompianment.  The Russians were probably among the last to go to tape - 
recall Olga's memorable routine to "Java."  It was said that the pianist could 
somehow play in such a way to "cover up" any shortcomings a gymnast had in 
keeping right on rhythym, etc.

Helena Robinson
htr@world.std.com
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Subject: Re: Manchester in 2000
From: aronson@helios.ece.arizona.edu (John Aronson)
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:00:45 MST
Distribution: world ,local
Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineeering

In article <1992Aug25.020923.7333@syacus.acus.oz.au> steven@syacus.acus.oz.au (Steven Malikoff) writes:
>marks@cs.man.ac.uk (Mark Stephens (MSc Stephen Furber)) writes:
>
>Well, you Northern-hemispherians have had it almost exclusively. How about
>holding them below the equator for a change? ...I don't think Manchester,
>Beijing (or Sydney, for that matter) has the money to "influence" the
>location like Atlanta (flame me if you like), so what's the criteria for
>next year's decision?  ..Ozone holes, or other crap?
>No matter which city gets it, lets hope we can come up with a better mascot
>than that 'Cokeizit' thing. If I were an Atlantean, I'd be downright ashamed.
>
>Steve Malikoff.


	Hey... if the games were held in the southern hemishere, durring July 
and August, could we really call them the Summer Games?  Thats the dead of 
winter!             

				Mr Climatology,
				John
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