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From: jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (James Carroll)
Subject: Re: jesus jones ?
Organization: CNS User Services, University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:48:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.154720.10579@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
>
>  The latest thing I have heard by Jesus Jones is a re-make of a Jimi 
>Hendrix song, which is available on some compilation that recently 
>came out (sorry, can't be too specific here; wasn't paying much 
>attention when it was on the radio).  Anyway, as for their style -- 
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Anybody have any information on this?  I would be very interested in
hearing the song/finding a copy.

-James

-- 
I'm feeling kinda loose, I'm feeling kinda mean       | First I was a murderer
I've been feeling kinda wild since I turned seventeen | Then I was a saint
- Melissa Etheridge, "Ain't It Heavy"                 | -The Glove,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-jcarroll@brahms.udel.edu-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| "Like An Animal"
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Subject: HELP please: New Order mailing list
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 11:18:01 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
Summary: who's got the address?


Would someone please email me the address of the Ceremony mailing list?

I'm on a local fanout, but I havn't seen anything on it for 4 months,
so I think it may be broken....

Ta muchly.

--
                                                            => Dogbowl <=


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From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Subject: Re: sonic,pavement+cell at Barrows
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:49:28 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1992Dec11.150140.2446@dct.ac.uk>, by bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk (Grant Doig):
> 
> Pavement: Wonderfull. The jugsaw was a nice touch! (thanks lots!!)
> they were tightly chaotic (?????????????). We should build a religion
> around their drummer/jigsaw distributor. What a nice man. Comunicative too.
> Worth the entranvce money alone!!!!
>
What did he do with a jigsaw.  Do you mean a jigsaw puzzle????

Their drummer apparently cuts a wide swath where ever he goes.  When I
saw pavement in Iowa, other members of the band warned the audience
not to light matches in his vicinity lest the alcohol in his sweat
ignite.

He told me some "Pavement: The Early Years" tales in the bar also.

1. He once picked up a flattened squirrel from the roadway and nailed
it behind his drumkit for a performance.

2. To settle up with a bar owner who didn't pay, he threw a bass through a 
plate glass window.

--
Kent Williams -- williams@cs.uiowa.edu Work(335-4496) Home(338-6053)
There used to be an inflammatory quote here.


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From: jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (John Hopkins)
Subject: Seventies Pop lyrics quiz
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:40:09 GMT


A few months ago, a gentleman named John Hiatt came up with a nifty idea: post a lyrics quiz that is easy enough that an average radio listener can do well at it.  His quiz was based on music of the eighties.  In that vein, this is a relatively easy quiz A few months ago, a gentleman named John Hiatt came up with a nifty idea: post a lyrics quiz that is easy enough that an average radio listener can do well at it.  His quiz was based on music of the eighties.  In that vein, this is a relatively easy quiz b

ased on the music of the seventies.  If you listened to the radio, saw "Saturday Night Fever," and liked K.C. and the Sunshine Band, you should do well.

Please do not post your answers.  You may mail them to me at jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu.  Answers are due in my mailbox by 0700 GMT on Tuesday, December 22.  I will post the results the following day.

I'm sorry that I can't offer a prize to the winner.  Hopefully the fun of playing is incentive enough.

Good luck, and above all, have fun!!

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1.	Well I didn't want to bring her
	and I know it will make her worse.

2.	And they whirl and they twirl and they tango.

3.	So here I am with pockets full of good intentions,
	but none of them will comfort me tonight.

4.	One chromosome too many.

5.	We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

6.	There's an open road that leads to nowhere,
	so just make some miles between here and there.

7.	Know that the Lord is well and inside of you.

8.	It'll take you a couple of vodka and tonics
	to set you on your feet again.

9.	She's mighty mighty, just lettin' it all hang out.

10.	A woman that I know just came from Majorca, Spain.

11.	Don't play B-17, it was our song, it was his song.

12.	I was on the dance floor acting strange.

13.	Writing something nasty on the wall.

14.	We were at the beach;
	everybody had matching towels.

15.	Have you ever had to push push push push?

16.	You may feel a little sick.

17.	Ain't no beauty queens in this locality, I'll tell you.

18.	Well your big brown eyes are all filled with tears
	from the bitterness of those lonely years.

19.	I'm the one you're using, please dont push me aside.

20.	In a silk dress, running like a watercolor in the rain.

21.	I think I had met my match.
	He was singing.

22.	I got the world calling me up here tonight on the phone.

23.	This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you.

24.	You can get yourself clean,
	you can have a good meal,
	you can do whatever you feel.

25.	In these old familiar rooms, children would play.
From: ernst@adi.ka.sub.org (Ernst Hoefer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Moving Targets & Ken Chambers (Please read again)
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:00:37 GMT
Organization: ADI Software GmbH, Germany


Extended repost:

(First Version as Message-ID: <JLBsVB3w165w@adi.ka.sub.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:23:18 CET)

# Hello,

# i've got 3 records of the Targets and one of Ken Chambers. Is there
# anything new after "FALL"? Does the group still exist?

# I saw them last year and they were GREAT !!!

# Thanks for helping,
#   Ernst


ADDED:

PLEASE ANSWER VIA EMAIL, AS MY ACCESS TO THE USENET IS RESTRICTED.

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From: lprimera@scott.skidmore.edu (lisa primerano)
Subject: Re: Why all women are scrubbers!
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:53:30 GMT

sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:
> In article <Bz3p9s.4vz@newcastle.ac.uk> Neil.Rodgers@newcastle.ac.uk (Neil Rodgers) writes:
> >In order to make a formal introduction to my thesis in why all women are
> >scrubbers I would like to refer to the work of Bentham who once said "there all
> >scrubbers, the fucking lot of them, and don`t you ever forget it son".
> >        The factual evidence of why women are in fact all scrubbers dates back
> >to 18th Century when women were a bunch of unclean haggs with rotten teeth.
> >[more inane stuff deleted]
> >        GOODBYE!!
> 
> 
> So she dumped you, huh?  And now you're hard up for a date.  Well - hey,
> that's a shame.  Good luck with your therapy though.
> 
> greg
> 
> 
> p.s.: Please - don't waste bandwidth on this fool like I have...let the flame
> bait die with his brain so we can get on with talking about music.
> 
> 

and i'll have to agree with greg here...in case no one read his first
deliberate attempt at a flame war...he succeeded in getting upwards of
20 responses, at my last glance...he's not worth it...okay, i don't
mind masachism, but let's keep it in the bedroom...

-lisa
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: Buffalo Tom
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:33:21 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

All of them!!!

wjm
From: markcarp@ace.UK.Sun.COM (Mark Carpenter)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Poppies
Date: 16 Dec 1992 11:04:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK) Ltd
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: ace.uk.sun.com

In article ILI@dcs.ed.ac.uk,  dmor@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Morris) writes:
>
>  I notice a large percentage of the postings on this newsgroup are from the USA and
>Canada, so I thought this would be a good group to send this question to.....
>  Are PWEI (Pop Will Eat Itself) known over in the States? If they are known of, how
>to their record sales go, and what do all you guys think of them?

All I can speak for is Boston. In the summer of '89, PWEI was a staple on
WFNX, the local mainstream alternative station (not so much of a contradiction
in terms anymore). Def Con One was heard quite a bit (though none of
their stuff has ever been Top 40, mainly just college and 'modern' rock
charts). Cure for Sanity wasn't played as much. X, Y and Z was the only
single I really ever heard on the radio or at clubs (although I thought
Cure for Sanity and the remix of 92 Degrees was far better songs IMHO).

I don't think I heard Karmadrome, Eat Me,... or Bulletproof at all before 
I moved to the UK several months ago. Lost is all the Grunge {tm} I suppose.

I'd say they are only really known in cities with good alternative/college
radio stations. 

I've found that they really aren't that known here in the UK either. I 
know they've been of the Pop charts, but people seem to draw
a blank when I mention their name. Maybe I should find more people with
better taste in music ;-)



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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:11:13 EST
From: Jeff Dubin <JDUBIN@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Tribe
 <1992Dec13.205701.399@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>

TRIBE!!!!  Amazing band...

I have Here at the Home, released on their indy label "Rutabaga" records.
You can find it in the Boston area still (I got it when it was released about
two years ago or so...  It's fun to hear the original songs on Here at the Home
and then the "new and improved" version on Abort...  especially the original
Abort!  I've seen them five times in and around Boston, met them at a record
signing at Tower Records and even got an interview with Terri the keyboradist
for my High School newspaper about a year ago.  Nicest people in the world...

If you want HATH, write to their fan club and see what they can do:

Tribe
P.O. Box 3581
New York, NY  10185-0051

Well, hope that provided you with some info.  Another channel may be to call
a Newbury Comics store (best music chain in Boston) and have them ship it
to you (wouldn't be too expensive...).  Get the number from information...

Well, good luck!


Jeff
Tribe fan at large...
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From: jganson@stein.u.washington.edu (Jeffrey Ganson)
Subject: Re: lemonheads ?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:19:29 GMT

In article <BzH53u.C24@ns1.nodak.edu> jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson) writes:
>
>   Dont forget to see them on Letterman tonight!!!
>
Interesting.  I went to a show here in Seattle on Tuesday night: Soul Asylum,

Lemonheads, and Jayhawks.  Lemonheads cancelled due to an unspecified 
"emergency".  Anyone know the story behind this?  I was quite disappointed, 
despite an incredible performace by Soul Asylum.

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From: dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell)
Subject: Re: MiniDisc is here!
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:20:15 GMT

saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe) writes:

>>Face it:  tape as a consumer recording medium is on the way out fast.
>>Philips is going to crash and burn on this one.

>	Yeah just like Phillips crashed and burned with CD's huh?  If you

'Scuse me, bonehead.  I said "ON THIS ONE".  I'm well aware of Philips'
involvement with CDs.


-- 
Dan Cogswell               Or as we say in Michigan:  "Dee-troit"


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From: osa@wilbur.unh.edu (Bart Simps.. er.. Oktay Ahiska)
Subject: Re: Tribe
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Comments: Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana
Organization: Springfield Elementary School
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:46:51 GMT
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Edward A Shnekendorf <eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:

=> Has anyone ever heard of a band called Tribe?  I'm seeing Live and

Yes.

=> Tribe is opening for them.  Any comments?

They're pretty good. In fact, they are probably better than Live
(IMHO, of course.)


--
The opinions expressed above are my own, and not necessarily those of UNH.

                               HUG ME!
From: wisner@aiag.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Grunge
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:19:07 GMT
Reply-To: wisner@aiag.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Marlboro, MA


re: Megan
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that MTV has been using the
>"funk-thrash" moniker for the Chili Peppers. Pearl Jam and Alice in
>Chains, though I heartily dislike stereotyping music, I can buy as

MTV had a special called "Smells like GRUNGE".   They included Red Hot Chili
Peppers and Faith No More.   (More credible choices were Soundgarden,
Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam (Singles soundtrack bands) and of course Nirvana.)

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         Views expressed and statements made are mine and not those
                    of Digital Equipment Corporation.

"One Alpha chip is claimed to have about the same processing power as a CRAY-1 
 which went on sale in 1976, as the Cray company's first supercomputer, at a 
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Subject: Re: New Zealand Music (more than the Chills)
From: mnor1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Mark Hiro           Norman         )
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:46:35 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

In <85322@ut-emx.uucp> pancake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Daniello) writes:

>Has Martin Phillips said specifically that The Chills as a band no longer exist or has the lineup just drastically changed as usual?  I find it hard to believe the Chills can be defunct since Martin Phillips IS the Chills and unless he stops recording or just changes the name, they will exist.

Last I saw on telly here, the band was over (until Martin decides to reform
it I guess :).

Problems were mainly to do with him not liking his lineup I think - often
people didn't fit in with his personal view of how the Chills should be.
He's apparently a pretty hard guy to get on with in a band he leads.
This is all just hearsay of course...

-- 
  _________________________________________________________________________
 / Whenever I see Trim Milk, I think...     |  The Computer Science Dept,  \
/          You're the one for me, Fatty...  |     Auckland University,      \
\-------------------------------------------|       New Zealand....         /
From: bal@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Benjamin Librojo)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 10,000 Maniacs concert in L.A.
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:48:25 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

I'm not really into 10,000 Maniacs that much anymore, but I
am heavily into R.E.M. and so I was interested to here that Natalie
Merchant did a cover version of "Don't Go Back To Rockville". Was this 
just a one off, or does she normally do this song ( or any other R.E.M.
song for that matter) in her live set? 

	Ben
From: clopez@weird.miami.fl.us (Carlos Lopez)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Best albums - 1992
Date: 8 Dec 92 23:33:03 EDT
Organization: Weird BBS [Amiga] (305)553-3207 S. Miami, FL USA

Here's what I think were this year's best albums....in no particualr order...

Lou Reed................Magic and Loss
Peter Gabriel...........Us
David Byrne.............Uh-Oh
Lindsey Buckingham.....Out of the Cradle
Neil Young..............Harvest Moon
Tom Ze..................The Hips of Tradition
The Neville Brothers....Family Groove
Talking Heads...........Sand in the Vaseline
Indigo Girls...........Rites of Passage
GRP All Stars
The Best of Oscar D'Leon
Lyle Lovett............Joshua Judges Ruth
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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: What is flannel?
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:48:14 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-15-92 22:45
Quoted from: c188-am@po.berkeley.edu (Leor Jacobi)

> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
> 
> >Date Entered: 12-15-92 10:44
> >Quoted From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (Kyle Cassidy)
> >>
> >> i'm serious. what is flannel made out of and where did this blue collar chic 
> >> come from? how come when i go to an alternative club it suddenly looks like 
> >> somebody put a sears mens department into a blender? is there a history to 
> >> this or what? is there a flannel plant? or is it an animal product?
> >> 
> >> inquiring minds want to know.
> >> 
> >> sorry if i've wasted your bandwith.
> >>
> 
> >Flannel is the new symbol of grunge.  Every good grunge fan must own 
> >at least one article of flannel clothing. 
> 
> >Animal product: no
> 
> Actually, some are made of wool
> 

I'd buy the really cheap wanna-be flannel shirts that are 'one sided'. 
But thats just me.

> >Found at sears: most deffinately
> 
> Try a thrift store, though.

For wool, yes.

> >History: ask the lumberjacks
> >Flannel plant: not sure
> 
> Think cotton
> 

Never thought of that one before.

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> Leor J
>

Why does this matter anyway?  Wear flannel today, and tomorrow it 
might be out of style.  Thats why you must always keep up-to-date 
through the british music mags.


TO ANYBODY WHO NOTICED (and at least one person did):
As a note to one of my previous posts on the originality of MTV:  I 
didn't realize that there was _already_ an alternative music show 
which has been around of 6 years.  I figured the new, daily version, 
was their first attempt at such a thing.  I therefore made an unjust 
criticism.

That should make this message at least somewhat useful.

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From: v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: I need your opinions
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Dec15.041728.18094@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, greenman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Derek Green) writes...
>Will you guys give me your opinions on the following albums:  
>(2) Eugenius 

Didn't like "Oomalumma."  Thought it was like refried Teenage Fanclub.  

>(4) Unrest-Imperial

I'm extremely biased about Unrest, so you might not want to take my opinions 
too seriously...  I think Imperial is one of the best albums of the year.  
However, I wouldn't recommend them to everyone, as they take the DIY ethic
very, very seriously.  In their favor, they are one of the most 
eclectic groups I've ever seen/heard/known.

Imperial combines straight pop ("Suki", "June", "Cherry Cream On") with stilted
experimentalism (the one with the sampled beats and bells, for example), and
syrupy balladeering ("Isabel").  Not as rough-hewn as previous albums, and 
not as tongue-in-cheek...  Critical reviews have ranged from unconditional
love (Spin's top 10 of 1992, Village Voice's music section) to bitter 
bile (CREEM, Village Voice's Robert Christgau, who labeled it as a "Must to
Avoid").  They do tend to noodle a bit, but that's why I like 'em.


******************************************************************************
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we didn't meet his arbitrary standards.  Oh, and he had his Son offed when he
realized how impossible those standards were.  -- Michael 4:23
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From: kai@meaddata.com (Kai Rudloff)
Subject: Re: Boingo is Back!!!
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:28:48 GMT

In article <6086@naucse.cse.nau.edu>, daf@sunset.cse.nau.edu (David Frautnick) writes:
|> 
|> I thought "Dark..." was really good, but that's just my opinion.
|> BTW, I had a chance to meet Johnny "Vatos" Hernandez a few months
|> ago.  He's somewhat of a quiet fellow.  Anyway, he was telling me
|> about his side project with bassist Avila, called Food for Feet.
|> Appearantly, the two grew up together in the same neighborhood.
|> Has anyone heard them play?
|> 

I've got both FFF CDs. The first one is untitled and the second is
called "Order". Not "traditional" Oingo Boingo, but then again, what
is? I think OB has been through may phases. Punkish to start out with
and mellowing out over the years. I still like FFF. The songs are
mellow for the most part, but they're still pretty original.

-- 
Kai Rudloff                            Delivery Application Engineering
kai@meaddata.com                                      Mead Data Central
...!uunet!meaddata!kai                                     Dayton, Ohio
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From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Re: lemonheads ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:08:23 GMT

hexonxon@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mark Goldstein) writes:

>where the hell can i find 'Mrs. Robinson' or 'Luka'?
>120 says mrs.robinson is off It's a shame but...

The newer editions of It's A Shame About Ray have Mrs. Robinson as track 13.
Just keep looking at the backs of the covers until you get lucky enough
to find a new edition of the CD>

Ed.

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From: djwcolem@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (dan coleman)
Subject: Re: "One-word" title (Was:Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:56:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.124136.25856@ifi.uio.no> berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec13.004227.17338@news.nd.edu>, wlamonac@maddog.helios.nd.edu (William LaMonaca) writes:
>> There are several on the new Alice Donut album:
>> 
>> The Untidy Suicide of your Degenerate Children (also the name of the album)
>> She Loves You, She Wants You (It's Amazing How Much Headwounds Bleed)
>> The Son of a Disgruntled Postal Worker Contemplates his Life While Sitting in
>>     The Parking Lot of A Winn-Dixie and Listening to Metallica.
>> 
>>     These Should do it.
>>     Bill
>> 
>
>
>Why not find the songs with the longest "one-word" 
>titles?
>
>Can anyone beat this old Alice Donut song (from
>Revenge Fantasies Of The Impotent):
>
>"Telebloodprintmediadeathwhore"

How about "Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas" by Soundgarden, which is also a palindrome.
	
	Dan
 
>
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