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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Jazz Improvisation Primer
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:35:21 GMT
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CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com wrote:
: In September, mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella) posted exepts from
: JIP.  Has the whole document been posted since?  Could someone
: repost of e-mail me a copy?

It is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.njit.edu, in /pub/jazz-primer.
You can use the DEC mail server (send a message containing the single word
"help" to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com for instructions) if you have no ftp access.

I've received a lot of really good feedback, and by next week should have an
updated revision available.  No serious differences; just filling in some holes
left the first time around and clarifying a few things.  But if you haven't
grabbed a copy of the primer yet, you might be better off waiting until the
new version is ready, which, as I said, should be next week.  I'll post again
with full instructions and excerpts at that time.

I'm still still looking into figuring out how to get real notated examples in
there, but I wouldn't expect to see anything come of that any time soon - even
once we figure out how to do it, it will take a while to figure out what to
include.

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From: silver.e@zooid.guild.org (Eric Silver)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Kirk MacDonald - The Revellers
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:39:28 GMT

I have been following rec.music.bluenote for sometime now, and I
finally decided to post a jazz CD recommendation that I feel very 
confident about. 
Kirk MacDonald has played as side man to the likes of Tommy Ambrose,
Doug Riley, Guido Basso, Sonny Greenwich, Don Thompson, and Harold
Mabern. Many will remember Kirk from his days with MANTECA. He also
recorded with Doug Wilde on Corsica, Joe Coughlin on Second Debut,
Dave Young on the Dave Young Quartet.
Well finally, Kirk has released his own CD called The Revellers.
Working with Kirk on The Revellers is Sam Noto - Trumpet, Mark
Eisenman - Piano, Steve Wallace - Bass and Jerry Fuller  - Drums.

The Revellers starts out with the 224 Blues. This tune isn't your
standard 12 bar blues! THIS IS JAZZ! 

Next is Forward Motion. This piece is a modal origianl, that is sweet 
lyrical and features a quick paced duet head with Kirk and Sam. The 
solos are great! When Kirk plays 'on the outside' you're not taken out
somewhere from where there is no return, its just enough outside to be
modal but not outer space!

Many claim that Body and Soul may be the most recorded Jazz piece of all
time. I've heard about fifty versions of it over the years, but NO ONE 
PLAYS IT AS WELL. Kirk's solo is fluid, sweet, and absolutly amazing!
All parts of the horn are played here, no hanging around the bottom or 
the center, Kirk covers the whole horn with grace.

The fourth tune, Turning Point is a great example of a band being tight!
Sam Noto's solo is terrific! Kirk answers with a MEGA SOLO of his own.
Mark's piano solo leaves you on the edge of your chair and foot trying 
to tap in time.

Space and time here won't allow me to review all of the 11 tunes. BUT,

the ninth tune 'The Revellers' is unbelievable!  This is a party of 
Revellers! The solos are played at a blistering tempo and dovetail
beautifully!

You can order 'The Revellers' CD by calling 1-800-JOE-RADIO
or 1-800-563-7234.   I have no association with JOE RADIO or any
broadcasting or marketing firm. 

I beleive that this CD is a great recording and I'm certain you
will enjoy it. This CD is a keeper!


Eric Silver - York, Upper Canada.
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: John Surman
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:19:28 GMT
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Organization: Educational Computing Network

I hear ECM has one coming out this month with Paul Bley, Gary Peacock,
and Tony Oxley.

Jeff
From: skrul@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Steve Krulewitz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: George Thorogood Lyrics
Date: 8 Nov 92 06:34:48 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Could someone please E-Mail all of George Thorogood's lyircs?  

Thanks!!
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From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Subject: Re: DB Reader's Poll
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:45:37 GMT

mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella) writes:
> Was it my imagination, or was Dave Holland not even listed in the "acoustic
> bass" category of the Down Beat Reader's poll?

Doesn't surprise me. I haven't seen the last several, but isn't the Reader's
Poll always the one with Gerry Mulligan as best bari and Wayne Shorter as best
soprano? (not to disparage their talents, but they are hardly more deserving
than several others.) My choices always clicked more with the Critic's Poll.

Which reminds me - Cadence Reader's Poll coming up. Now that one always has
more sensible choices for notable albums. Too bad Cadence's reviews are so far
behind - the lag is a good 6 months in many cases, and skews poll results
against newer albums (like Berne's PACE YOURSELF last year).
-- 
| Vincent Kargatis                      |  "It was jump or die."              |
| Dept. of Space Physics and Astronomy  |                                     |
| Rice University, Houston, TX          |      Marilyn Crispell to Anthony    |
| [vek@spacsun.rice.edu]                |        Braxton on his Comp. 69C     |
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Coltrane: Dear Lord
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:04:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.131022.8197@brt.deakin.edu.au> stephenad@brt.deakin.edu.au writes:
>From memory I think it is 'Transition'.
>
>Stephen.

Yes, that was the first album it was on.  Then there was a double LP
called "To The Beat Of A Different Drum" which had it, and a
retrospective called "His Greatest Years Volume III".

On CD, one of the first things put out by "Impulse" was yet another
collection, and it had Dear Lord.

Jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: silver.e@zooid.guild.org (Eric Silver)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Jazz joke in The Fusco Brothers comic ctrip
Date:  7 Nov 92 05:53:57 GMT

In your article;

From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
>
>I bought the latest compilation of The Fusco Brothers, a comic
>strip that appears in the Washington Post, etc. (The compilation
>is called _Newark and Reality: Together Again_). In the first
>25 pages, there was a Sunday-comic size strip with a joke
>appropriate to this newsgroup:
>
>The four brothers have a band and are practicing. One brother, Lance,
>is playing a bass guitar. When they all stop, Lance's brother, Rolf,
>asks Lance if that was a wrong note he had just heard Lance play.
>Lance replies that he did in fact play one wrong note, but then
>played the wrong note again *intentionally*. He explains, "When you
>do it once, it's a mistake. When you do it twice, it's jazz."

I guess from your posting above Charlie Parker made an awful lot 
of mistakes!
Wonderful, weren't they!

Eric Silver - York, Upper Canada.
From: benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu (Ben E. Cline)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Roseanna Vitro Query
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:05:35 GMT

Anyone know anything about the jazz singer Roseanna
Vitro?  I'm particularly interested in recordings
other than "Reaching for the Moon".

Thanks in advance.

Benjy
Virginia Tech Computing Center
From: gstovall@lager.cisco.com (Greg Stovall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Glenn Spearman/Raphe Malik in San Francisco
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:47:37
Organization: That's cisco to you
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In-reply-to: hsu@walnut.SFSU.EDU's message of 7 Nov 92 02:14:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.181407.3092@nic.csu.net> hsu@walnut.SFSU.EDU (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu) writes:

   Another great show at the Great American Music Hall. The opening
   band was Wayne Horvitz's new band Pigpen, with Horvitz on keys,
   sax, drums and the bassist from Tone Dogs. The blurbs say "Nirvana
   meets Ornette Coleman", and while they're not as wacky as that, they
   are quite fun. Who was it that said "John Zorn lite"? (Seth?) The typical

Uhh, that would be me. :-)

   But the main problem with Pigpen was they opened for Glenn Spearman's
   G-Force. After Spearman, Malik and friends came on, it was hard to

The biggest problem I had with Pigpen was the night after the Great American 
Music Hall gig, when they played at the Heinz club in Oakland.  Pigpen played 
the exact same set as the night before. Of course, I was expecting a somewhat 
more "improv" slanted band, so that may be coloring my vision.  On the up side, 
the opening band, Blowjob, was great.  They're a 15 piece wind and percussion 
band, sorta like an improv version of a New Orleans marching band.  The members 
were kinda of a who's who in the Bay Area improv scene, led by David Slusser 
and Ralph Carney. Twisted marches and all out free jazz.  Not bad for a group 
that's never played together before that night. :-)  I'm not sure they're 
playing again, they may be a one shot band.  But I've been wrong before.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Greg Stovall                    |    "You God Damn Sissies! Stand up
                                        |     and use your ears like a man!"
     gstovall@cisco.com                 |         - Charles Ives 1931


Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: corman@Ingres.COM (Anthony Corman)
Subject: Re: Whateverhappenedto...Gato Barbieri?
Reply-To: corman@Ingres.COM (Anthony Corman)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:38:29 GMT

For some impressive Gato, check out Carla Bley's "Genuine Tong Funeral-
Dark Opera Without Words." Beautiful dark chamber jazz, with the
Gary Burton Quartet plus horn players like Howard Johnson, Steve
Lacy, et al.

An unrelated recommendation: I'm *really* liking Don Grolnick's
new side, "Nighttown." Same 4-horn instrumentation as his
previous record (tenor, bs clar, tpt, tbn), but 4 different horn
players, incl Joe Lovano. Mostly original comps, fairly straight
ahead, and again, very dark and beautiful. I like "dark and beautiful!"

Tony Corman
From: milst1@cislabs.pitt.edu (Martin I Lewison)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Pat Metheny
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:44:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Howdy.  I'm a BIG Pat Metheny fan - I've got 10 CDs an 1 cassette, and I've
seen him 7 times between 1982 and the present.

Like, are there other serious Pat fans out there?  Question: Is there a 
Pat Metheny mailing list?  Is one in the works?

-Martin
From: burger@sphinx.ece.wisc.edu (Dick Burger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: can someone tell me who sings this song?
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:07:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Nov10.160739.4421
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison; Electrical & Computer Engineering

In article <5422@daily-planet.concordia.ca> hum@cs.concordia.ca (HUM william) writes:
>If anyone saw A Different World last thursday, they played a song near the
>end which Dwayne and his wife lip synched to.  I think they said it was
>by Ray Charles.  Anyway, it was a duet with a woman who had a very hoarse
>voice and the only line I remember is "...it's cold outside..."  I know
>I'm not telling you very much but if by chance anyone knows which CD I can
>find it on, I'd appreciate it.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>

  I doubt this is the version you heard, but Ray Charles and Betty Carter do
a great version of the song "Baby its Cold Outside" on their Atlantic album.
Great CD, hilarious song.
Dick Burger
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Subject: Joe Pass?, Oscar Petersen? Ray Brown? What Record is this???
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:31:25 GMT

A year or so ago a friend of mine sent me a tape. His hand-lettered
label read "Joe Pass, Oscar Petersen, Ray Brown". I think the
tape is great! Now I want to purchase the CD but I don't know
the name of the recording. The tape is a quartet studio setting.
One of the tunes is "Sometimes I'm Happy".

Any Help?
Thanks
--
_______________________________________________________________

Gerald Ross

     ...It's 1992.  So where's my jetpack?
_______________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: Ray Charles, Jazzman???
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:01:10 GMT

jhurley@husc3.harvard.edu writes:
>...........Ray Charles says that Ray's
>incredibly varied work included jazz recordings with Oscar Pettiford and
>Milt Jackson, as well as a live jazz album recorded at Newport many years ago.

Charles plays piano and organ in a very bluesy style. There was an album
I remember seeing the record with Milt Jackson on Atlantic many years
ago, but who knows when/if Atlantic will reissue it. In general, his
earlier Atlantic records usually had one or two insturmentals that featured
Charles and other members of the band (like Fathead Newman). I also remember
an instrumental single by Charles of One Mint Julep.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
From: ee152fcy@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Jazz/Bach fusion?
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:57:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I heard the strangest thing on the local jazz station the other day.
It was a jazz group with a trumpet quoting the opening theme from Bach's Chorale
Prelude "Wachet auf". The rest of the band then proceeded to
improvise over a more traditional jazz groove. The song ended with a
restatement of the Bach theme.

Could anyone out there identify the artist and song?

Paolo
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: MILES DAVIS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:56:02 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

I want to add some Miles Davis classics to my cd collection. Please
post some recomendations ( both old and recent).

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: Re: don't look now
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:11:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.163530.8488@comp.lancs.ac.uk>, arb@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Andrew Brooks) writes:
>
>I really enjoyed Ornette's "Spelling the Alphabet" but I can't find it on
>any CDs around here.  Can anyone tell me which (if any) album it is on, and
>suggest some other albums of similar music for a newcomer like me?

I believe "Spelling" is on Ornette's Prime Time CD entitled VIRGIN BEAUTY 
(Portrait RK 44301).

-Lynn  (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: Re: Return To Forever
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:04:06 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

I consider  Return To Forever's Romantic Warrior a fusion classic. A blazing
19 year old Al D., Chick at his best, start of Stanley's impact and influence
on bassists, and a smokin' Lenny White.
From: sue@seada.com (Sue Raul)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Concert Review (sort of) Delfeayo Marsalis, Pattitucci(sp?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:06:41 GMT
Organization: Software Enginerring and Design Associates

In article <BxHMs4.DIM@beach.csulb.edu> mikefitz@beach.csulb.edu (Mike Fitzpatrick) writes:

>Jimmy Cheetum(sp?) was also in attendance.  From what I understand he is
>the director of the jazz band at UCSD.  It was a very cool afternoon.
>
>Mike

Jimmy and (his wife) Jeannie Cheatham are leaders of their own band
"The Sweet Baby Blues Band."  They have several good recordings you
might want to check out.  It's jazzy blues in the Kansas City style.

Jimmy teaches several courses at UCSD, the jazz band is one.  They're
playing at City College tonight for the Jazz Live radio show on KSDS.
From what I've been told it will include some of the better small
combos from the band, graduate students and undergrads, and a special
guest who I will refrain from spreading rumors about.  (But, if it's
who I've been told it is, you gotta go!) :-)

Sue
Organization: Sophomore, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:22:42 -0500 
From: Eugene Kuo <ek1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Miles Davis Columbia Years

Hello,

Could someone please tell me who plays on the live version of "Straight
No Chaser" included in the box set Miles Davis: The Columbia Years
1955-1985?  Also, while I'm at it, where and when it was recorded? 
Thanks!

eugene
From: mrhine@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Rhine)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: raoul longworth
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:25:27 GMT
Organization: my organization here

anybody out there ever heard of Raoul Longworth? or know where i can            
purchase more of his arrangements?                                              
                                                                                
here is the cover page of the piece i have...it looks pretty *small             
time*, so to speak...like longworth published it by himself, or                 
had it done by a smaller publishing company.                                    
                                                                                
any info is appreciated...                                                      

Melody In Chords                                                                
                                                                                
Guitar Solo                                                                     
In Tablature and Staff                                                          
                                                                                
"Londonderry Air"                                                               
$1.00 in USA                                                                    
Arranged by Raoul Longworth                                                     
copyright 1970                                                                  
By Raoul Longworth                                                              
All Rights Reserved                                                             
                                                                                
m. rhine                                                          n
mrhine@thor.gatech.edu        "aural artistry"              ||    |)   ||
ppl...404-894-4660                                          ||:  (|   :||
fax...404-894-6157       "Always have a melody in mind."    ||  ( | )  ||
atlanta, GA                       Joe Pass                        v
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From: ghfick@acs.ucalgary.ca (Gordon H. Fick)
Subject: Re: Coltrane: Dear Lord
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:04:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

>In article <92309.101725K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET>, Stefan Ratschan <K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET> writes:
>> Does anyone know one which John Coltrane record I can find
>> the song "Dear Lord"?
>> 
>> Thank you.
>
>
>From memory I think it is 'Transition'.
>
>
>Stephen.
Dear Lord can also be found on "From the Original 
Master Tapes" (MCA- MCAD-5541). This compilation was released in
1985. It includes:
Soul Eyes (Mal Waldron)                            (5:22)
Song From The Underground Railroad (arr. Coltrane) (6:37)
Dear Lord (John Coltrane)                          (5:34)
Vilia (arr. Coltrane)                              (4:35)
India (John Coltrane)                              (13:20)
Spiritual (John Coltrane)                          (15:00)
Big Nick (John Coltrane)                           (4:15)

Underground Railroad comes from "Africa Brass". India and
Spiritual are listed as "previously unreleased".
Dear Lord has JC, McCoy Tyner(pno),Jimmy Garrison(b), Roy
Haynes(dms). India and Spiritual have Eric Dolphy added to
different rhythm sections recorded at the Village Vanguard. No
dates are provided but the Dolphy tracks seem to be 'later'.

-- 
Gordon H. Fick - Department of Community Health Sciences
University of Calgary - Calgary, Alberta CANADA T2N 4N1 - (403) 220-6939
From: sjones@alfred.carleton.ca (Stan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Miles Davis Columbia Years
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:07:17 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <Yf09WWO00WA1I4hyQG@andrew.cmu.edu> Eugene Kuo <ek1i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Could someone please tell me who plays on the live version of "Straight
>No Chaser" included in the box set Miles Davis: The Columbia Years
>1955-1985?  Also, while I'm at it, where and when it was recorded? 
>Thanks!

The notes say that it was the regular group: Adderley, Coltrane,
Evans, Chambers, and Cobb (and Miles).  July 4, 1958 at Newport.
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: DB Critics Choice (was Re: DB Reader's Poll
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:28:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Nov7.022835.11210
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>Years ago Downbeat used to have this section where four or five
>critics each presented four of their "current favorite" things -- I
>think it was usually one new release, one old classic, one "rarity"
>and one rececnt live event.  Anyone remembers this?  Too bad they
>stopped.

Thanks for reminding me--I just got lost looking thru some old db's
at some of them. One of the best features that they used to do.

It was called CRITIC'S CHOICE, and was actually three critics,
each describing a favorite in each of 4 categories: New Release, Old
Favorite, Rara Avis, and Scene, where "Scene" could be a gig, or just a
place (not always musical). The range of interests was broader than what was
normally covered in the magazine (one I noticed had Dylan's BLONDE ON BLONDE
as the old favorite). Lots of fun to go back and look at now, too.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
From: e2peny8@etek.chalmers.se (Per Nystrom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Sos Fenger on Holliday
Keywords: Sos Fenger on Holliday
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:14:10 GMT
Reply-To: e2peny8@etek.chalmers.se (Per Nystrom)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

Since I didn't get any responses after my request about Sos Fenger's 
new CD I went and bought it. This was maybe the best thing I've ever
done cause the CD "Sos Fenger on Holliday" is s u p e r !
Sos Fenger is a Danish (female) pop-singer who's made a jazz-CD.
With the musicians Niels Lan Dohky piano, Nils-Henning Orstedt-
Petersen on bass and Christer Gruvstedt on drums they make
some of Billie Holliday's greatest "hits" in a very warm and
personal way. Espacially "My man has gone", "I cover the waterfront"
and "Gloome Sunday" are absolutely extremeley great. Wow!

Unfortunately I have lost the record number but I promise to send it
soon. 

   Per Nystrom          " Life is just a bowl of cherries, 
   - a content buyer       so live and laugh at it all.   "