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From: rob@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: REM - sidewinder
Reply-To: rob@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:19:00 GMT

In article <92021@netnews.upenn.edu>, kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Peck's Bad Boy) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.100313.19119@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>>In the referenced article, raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES) writes:
>>>down again. The reason they are not touring is that they are working on 
>>>yet another album to be released next year. They have apparently had quite a
>>>creative burst and are making the best out of it. Amazing since OoT was
>>>released only a year and a half ago. This way when they tour they will
>
>>I find it interesting that releasing an album every year and a half
>>constitutes a creative burst.  The early Beatles released 
>>about 2-3 albums a year.
>
>Yeah, but the Beatles were never any good...
>
    I would also be interested to know how often the Beatles put out albums
  10 to 12 years later.

>
>>In comparison,  REM appears to have gotten fat, spoiled, and lazy.
>
>I don't know.  Bill looks a little thinner and Michael has that
>radiation treatment look now, definitely thinner.  
>
    Michael definately has that "radiation" look.  Has anyone seen him in
  an interview lately?  I wonder if he is so far out of it that they don't
  let him talk to the media anymore.  In all of the pre-AFTP release stuff,
  I have only seen Mike Mills and Peter.

>I don't think they've gotten spoiled by success; all the awards never
>meant anything to them.  Why is success so wrong when you do what you
>enjoy the most, making music?
>
>kcw
>
>
>--
>Try not to Breathe.
>
>kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>Kevin C. Welch

It seems to me that, for the present, REM is satisfied to play in small clubs
in and around Athens and a few in Europe, while coming out with new material
more often than present group of their stature.

The more I listen to AFTP, the more I like it.

Later.
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:06:05 EDT
From: <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: KMFDM remixes of White Zombie

    Anybody hear this EP yet? What did you think? I work at our college radio
station, and I thought what I heard was okay (re-mix of Black Sunshine), but
nothing spectacular...tho maybe it grow on you....




Sean LeBlanc



  Man is the poet who kills, womwoman the angel who eats.
    Greg Bear, Queen of Angels
From: JD2859A@auvm.american.edu (Jeff Dubin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Fugazi
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:48:53 GMT
 <1992Oct10.123041.15121@ms.uky.edu>
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

Well, they're back in the US as of about a month ago.  I'm here in
D.C. and saw them play a free outdoors show down the street from here -
in Tenley if anyone's familiar with the area.  I'm not a Fugazi fan myself,
but after seeing that show I'm ready to go out and buy their collection.
The lead singer yelled at the crowd for stage diving (something about their
reputation and stuff - the crowd unfortunatley ignored him) and the power
went down occasionally for about a minute.  Otherwise, they were great.
Didn't say anything about new stuff out though.
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From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: R.E.M. breaking up -- maybe a rumor, but what if...?
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:54:58 GMT
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rob@vger.cheme.cornell.edu () says:

>>  When Green came out, a friend of mine theorized that they would have only 
>>three more albums.  This was his reasoning:
>>    - "Document" is subtitled "#5"

It's subtitled #5 because it was their fifth album. Goddamn conspiracy
theorists. :)
-- 
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From: Judith_Beeman@mindlink.bc.ca (Judith Beeman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: PAVEMENT/ live Vancouver
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:00:47 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Saw 'em last night at the Cruel Elephant in Van. Fun, packed and all round
swell. I'm one of those who "knew" about the band  before Slanted/Enchanted
came out on Matador but had never actually heard the group...I'm waiting for
a pal to dub me their first few singles. Anyhow, a nice uplifting bunch of
guys. I didn't know they had 2 drummers (one of whom is the secondary
vocalist -- ie. the one who does the major ranting on certain songs). I'm not
sure where they've been touring (if you know...let me know) but I did bump
into that 2nd drummer after the show...charming.

I don't know how I lucked out but I managed to be standing just one row of
people back from the stage. Perfect view throughout, and, luckily I was just
far enough over to one side that when the mosh behaviour got going a tad
frenticly I wasn't effected. A much much much more enjoyable gig then the
Ramones who I saw the night before.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: powellb@samwise.colorado.edu (Brian Powell)
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:22:08 GMT

> (3) Skinhead's records haven't been selling very well lately, and 
>     she figures that controversy is a great way to attract a larger
>     audience.

	I would have to agree with this assesment, especially in light of her
new Rolling Stone interview to be released.  In it, she states:

	1) Mike Tyson is an innocent victim and that Desirea (sp.) Washington
		(the woman that was raped by Tyson) is a bitch and a shame to
		all women
	2) The LA riots should happen, and people in LA have a human right to
		take whatever they want from stores.
	3) Two other fine statements which I can't remember right now...

	She is just trying to attract attention to herself (see her haircut) and
to her album.

								--Brian
From: JMW134@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Velocity Girl
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:15:23 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Anybody have any info on the Velocity Girl EP due out sometime soon?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: olivier@everest.ee.umn.edu (Olivier Meirhaeghe)
Subject: Re: trip shakespeare
Keywords: trip, lulu, proton
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, EE dept.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:47:17 GMT

In <1992Oct6.192913.2238@bvc.edu> raineykriste@bvc.edu writes:

>In article <semrAFO00iUzE30Gwr@andrew.cmu.edu>, Chris Ferrall <ferrall+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> 
>> The first Trip Shakespeare album is "Apple Head Man," on Gork(?) Records.
>> I think it is still in print.  It contains the original version of
>> Pearle, and some other good songs.  A friend of mine still in
>> Minneapolis says they are about to put out a new album.
>> 
		Yep..they sure are still alive and together , also they
	have not played in a little while , they recorded a new album
	with _i dont remember who as a producer_ ( a guy who did stuff
	with barbara streisand and others (?) ) ..should be out again
	soon.

	Olivier ( in mpls )

>
From: weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:37:40 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <sepkIGG00Uh_M1d4hQ@andrew.cmu.edu> Chris Ferrall <ferrall+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I'd be interested in compiling a list of pop/rock songs dealing
>with abortion (or the decision).  Here the ones I've come up with after 
>five minutes:
>
>"Bodies"                         Sex Pistols
>"You Can't Be Too Strong"        Graham Parker
>"Papa Don't Preach"              Madonna
>"Emperor's New Clothes"          Sinead O'Connor
>
>There must be many more.  

"My Special Child" - Sinead O'Connor

Can't think of any others at the moment...

-- 
					- Adam J Weitzman
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Orb samples (was Re: Have the Orb used Floyd samples ?)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:07:56 GMT

In <1992Oct16.155652.22482@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>>Saeed Jaffer asks:
>>>Continuing on this thread ... would anybody be willing to compile a list of
>>>samples used in Orb music?
>A friend was trying to convince me that the beginning of Little Fluffy Clouds
>was ripped from a very early and rare Pink Floyd album.  Does anyone know if
>there is any truth behind this?

Which specific part of the beginning?  The rooster?  I don't think so.
Have some early rare Pink Floyd and would be willing to go spelunking
for it if you can indicate which part you're talking about.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: steffen@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (Matthias Steffen)
Subject: Re: Midnight Oil still around?
Organization: FB3, TU-Berlin, Germany.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:21:43 GMT

In article <BvqxyC.Jr5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson) writes:

   Right when I was beginning to worry that Midnight Oil
   was no more, they announced a new album.

   Then I get it and realize that there's no new matterial
   on the thing.  :(

   But I never heard whether or not the band still plans on
   making music.

   Does anyone know?

   I know they're old, but I don't care!

   Scotty AJ


According to the latest discussion on the Midnight Oil mailing list (which
is pretty dead right at the time) and to information from the MO management
the band is pausing right now. They take such a "creative break" every few
years to recover and to write new songs. I don't know when they'll release
the next studio album but I'm sure there will be one. At least the band is 
definitely not dead and they even did concerts in Australia in the last weeks.

Matthias


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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: Beautiful South/Housemartins QUESTION
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:48:39 GMT

In <1992Oct10.021753.14280@hubcap.clemson.edu> rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robey Pointer) writes:

>As for the Housemartins, I honestly think (please don't shoot me) that the
>Beautiful South is better.  Granted, I only have one album ("London 0 Hull 6"
>or some score where London loses) and I like it a lot, but not as much as,
>say, the first Beautiful South album.

Try "The People Who Grinned Themselves to Death", I'm sure you'll like it
as much as the Beautiful South stuff.

Phil
From: milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Compact XTC
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:32:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: scofield.corp.sun.com

Since there has been a recent series of messages about XTC in this group, I
thought I'd ask something I've wanted to know for quite a while.  I have the
U.K. disc "The Compact XTC -- The Singles 1978-85" [Virgin CDV 2251] and I
want badly to find out the release dates of the songs on the CD.  I have the
book "British Hit Singles" which tells me the dates of the songs that actually
managed to reach the British pop charts, but that's only half the selections.
Can anyone supply me with the remainder?

From the dates that I know of, I'm pretty sure the songs on the disc must be
in chronological order.  Here is the song list and what I know.  These are NOT
the release dates -- they are the dates that the songs debuted on the charts.
I would prefer release dates if anyone has them.  Thanks.


  Science Friction
  Statue of Liberty
  This is Pop?
  Are You Receiving Me
  Life Begins at the Hop  -----------   5/79
  Making Plans for Nigel  -----------   9/79
  Wait Till Your Boat Goes Down
  Generals and Majors  --------------   9/80
  Towers of London  -----------------  10/80
  Sgt. Rock (is Going to Help Me)  --   1/81
  Senses Working Overtime  ----------   1/82
  Ball and Chain  -------------------   3/82
  Great Fire
  Wonderland
  Love on a Farmboy's Wages  --------  10/83
  All You Pretty Girls  -------------   9/84
  This World Over
  Wake Up
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Subject: Perfect Circle (was Re: R.E.M.--Nightswimming)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:39:40 GMT

In article <92472@netnews.upenn.edu> kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch) writes:
>
>Well, Perfect Circle was recorded with an out of tune upright piano, but
>it sounds good anyway.  

I'd thought "Perfect Circle" had *two* pianos in it, both playing the same
thing, and only one of which was out of tune. But I've been wrong before...

So, what's the word--one or two?

   gLITTOfERN
glitto@iastate.edu
From: u2119784@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: REM... Fat Ugly and Stupid? (Was: sidewinder)
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:47:13 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

>> >>In comparison,  REM appears to have gotten fat, spoiled, and lazy.
Funny that... they once did a show under the moniker 'Fat, Ugly and Stupid'

not sure where it was tho' ... someone out there must know...

Graham the Happy Scum
u2119784@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: japanese noise
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:07:18 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct14.210902.4847@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:
>
> I forgot to mention a band when I posted yesterday on the subject. It's a guy
>called Gerogerigegege (sic) and I've heard some pretty bizarre stuff about him.
>He likes to prance around nude and has contact mikes on his hands while he 
>jerks off (sounds like a GG Allin version of Jap noise). He also has a habit of
>stick a guitar plug in his penis of all places. Of course, most of this stuff
>I've heard from outside sources, but they're pretty reliable. There is a 
>Gerogerigegege 7" out on some label that I don't have the address of off hand.
>If anyone is interested, just post and I'll try and post it tomorrow.
>
>                                                             TOMASS

Yep - there's a nice bit on Gerogerigegege (yep - that's the spelling!) in
the RRReport #3 that'll confirm your sources. If you can find this
zine, get it! It comes with a CD comp with Gerogeri... plus Violent
Onsen Geisha, Solmania, KK Null, and more. Is it just me, or are
Japanese noisemeisters a lot more *fun* than the Euro or American
equivelents? Even when they're serious (a la Merzbow), it's just
not pretentious like, say, Missing Foundation or the Swans.

Joshua H.
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From: na-rt451@andy.bgsu.edu (Ann Shea-Jipson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: connells
Keywords: record
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:03:50 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.


When is the new Connells coming out? I've been waiting since March and I
grow impatient.
From: kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:58:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <4060@cvbnetPrime.COM> jsulliva@cvbnet.prime.com (Jeff Sullivan) writes:

[Shinead rips up Pope]

>	Until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all
>	without regard to race, I've got to say war.

> I think we all agree with human rights and freedom of speech, but
> did she go too far?

Oh, without saying.  She has every right to believe that the
Pope is the source of evil, however ridiculous that may be.
But NBC is responsible for everything that is broadcast to the
public.  Having her perform an unrehearsed tar and feather session
caused her to be banned from SNL and NBC.

> -Jeff

kcw



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From: mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: An Emotional Fish ?
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:47:47 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct5.142824.19745@pluto.dss.com> mats@pluto.dss.com (Mats Liliedahl) writes:
>
> Does anybody have any information about some new material from the band
> An Emotional Fish?  Their first (?) album last year (w. Celebrate etc.)
> became one of my favourite albums, but I haven't heard anything from 
> them since.  Hopefully they're still around...
> Pls post any info.
>
> Thanks,
> Mats  (mats@doc.dss.com)

	I will call their promoter and see what he can tell me.  Nothing
he told me last time seems to have come true.  Write to me, if you
want his address or phone number or whatever.  He can join you up in a
fan club and keep you up to date.  I'm too cheap to join the club, so I
have to call him for info.  Later.

			JiM
From: sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Morrissey thread?
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:27:55 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

For anyone wanting so sniff out other Smiths/Morrissey type bands there is a 
debut single called zoo'd out by a UK band called Strangelove, currently 
only available on a compilation disk called volume 4. It is pretty similar
to the slower Smiths tunes and IMHO it isn't too bad.

calv
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From: mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (gretchen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:31:27 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: bgsu

In article <1992Oct12.113713.19581@hemlock.cray.com>,
jrn@redwood21.cray.com (Jim Nemmers) wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <BvvFyz.JvD@andy.bgsu.edu>, matt writes:
> >
> > First of all, I know that political and religious commentary isn't the
> > purpose of alt.music.alternative but I really don't care.  Sinead put out a
> > valid interpretation of many individuals' feelings towards the church.  She
> > was not attacking the Pope directly, but rather she was showing her
> > contempt for the religious dogma that is shoved down our throats every day.
> 
> Speaking of getting shit shoved down our throats, how 'bout Sinead's actions.
> She purposely evades giving SNL any knowledge of her intentions to make a
> religous statement. I don't know about anyone else, but I watch SNL for its
> entertainment and humor. I didn't see either of these catagories in Sineads
> performance. Although her performance did come closer to humor than it did
> entertainment. Luckily I have remote.
> 
> >  The sepertion of church and state does not exist-->everyone of our elected
> > officals is a devout "beleiver."  Our school boardrooms are being invaded
> > by bible-toting "doogooders," yet look at how fucked up our world is...
> 
> I hardly believe that the state of our world can be blamed on our leaders
> religious convictions (entirely). Much of how our world is may possibly
> be blamed on the individuals without religious/moral values. Take, for
> instance, abortion. If people had more religious/moral convictions, maybe
> our government wouldn't feel the need to have to regulate it.
> 
> This is not the issue though. The issue is using SNL's invitation to entertain
> an audience to voice/display her religious convictions. I vote no!
> 
Two words; First Amendment 
> >
> >       "If you're out there, I want to see you"
> 
> Your day will come.
> 
> Now lets get back to alternative music discussions.
From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (mnf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Highly Recommended: Sky Cries Mary
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:31:31 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <kbennett.718651622@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
>I saw SCM at the Off-Ramp, a medium-small club here in Seattle, last night.
>They are touring with Shriekback this fall and if you are debating whether
>to go, I say DON'T MISS IT!
>
>They are a laugh in the face to anyone who says that the "seattle sound"
>all sounds the same or is dead.  There IS no "seattle sound."  There is a
>city, and there are bands.  Got it?  Now on to Sky Cries Mary.
>
>
>The 4-song CD "Exit at the Axis" will give you some idea, but the live
>show is hypnotic like not to be believed.  I fully trust that they can take
>over a large arena as well as if not better than they took over the off-ramp.
>I can't wait (especially since I'm also a big Shriekback fan) for November 10!
>

	I know an album by Sky Cries MAry released in 1989 and called
	"Until The Grinders Cease". It was promising but really nothing
	out of this world. I Didn't have a chance to listen to this one.

>Lena

Nuno
From: kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Peck's Bad Boy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM - sidewinder
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:01:04 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct7.100313.19119@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>In the referenced article, raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES) writes:
>>down again. The reason they are not touring is that they are working on 
>>yet another album to be released next year. They have apparently had quite a
>>creative burst and are making the best out of it. Amazing since OoT was
>>released only a year and a half ago. This way when they tour they will

>I find it interesting that releasing an album every year and a half
>constitutes a creative burst.  The early Beatles released 
>about 2-3 albums a year.

Yeah, but the Beatles were never any good...


>In comparison,  REM appears to have gotten fat, spoiled, and lazy.

I don't know.  Bill looks a little thinner and Michael has that
radiation treatment look now, definitely thinner.  

I don't think they've gotten spoiled by success; all the awards never
meant anything to them.  Why is success so wrong when you do what you
enjoy the most, making music?

kcw


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