From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABORTION ON OUR SOCIETY
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:43:15 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In talk.abortion, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>In <1992Apr10.173117.21203@nwnexus.WA.COM> jbrindle@nwnexus.WA.COM (Jennifer Br
>indle) writes:
>>franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>>>In <1992Apr4.225950.26567@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@ellis.uchicago.edu (e eli
>zabeth bartley) writes:

Steve, glad you didn't 'cop-out' on this thread. :)

>>You want sex from the "loose" girl, but you marry the chaste one.
>>And you don't call that behavior "cheap"?

>   I'd bet you don't know me at all Jen. Maybe you consider yourself
>lucky because you're not interested in my type of guy. But, from that
>last quote I'd bet you haven't read a single thing I've written. Otherwise
>you'd know I don't "want sex from the "loose" girl". This is not the
>first post I've seen from you, but you already have this
>naughty habit of posting presumptuos extrapolations from thin air. Nice...

Steve actually posted a truth this time.:) He admitted last week that
he has been celibate his entire life and knows nothing about sex that
he wasn't told or had read.

>No way... You drop a class and you've a)wasted time, and b) often get
>a "dropped" on your transcript. Better to try and finish the thing with
>perseverance and sweat, and maybe spend a little less time out partying...

Guess you never attempt too many things, me, personally, wish I had dropped
a class in grad school. Some moron of an advisor said to be accepted
we had to take 4 *grad* level classes, since they hadn't gotten the
core curiculum in yet, they forced us to take the entire thing the first
semester. 2/3 of those that entered mech. eng. that year were forced
to drop out of school by the end of the spring semester because of bad
grades, ill-health, or lack of finances.

>>Have you ever said "no" to volunteer work because your time was scarce?
>I wouldn't start what I couldn't finish. If I didn't think I could
>volunteer my time, then I wouldn't COMMIT to it. Once I begin, I do not
>cop-out, leaving others to deal with what I've left behind. It would
>just create MORe victims.

You have never taxed yourself, obviously, or you would fail at something.
This is a fact of life. Those who dare will fail, those who are truly
strong will continue to dare.

>I never back off of things. I would back ou of a relationship if it wasn't
>going well. Period. I never back ou leaving the other party to think
>"what the hell happened?"

This from the guy who just posted that there were too many threads going
on and he couldn't handle it? (that was only 5 days ago, Steve, do you
really think us complete idiots?)<==this is a rhetorical question, Steve,
and calls for no answer.


>Adult? How can you call that adult? That is one of my best definitions
>of a child. He/she can't deal with the pressure so he sweeps it under
>the covers.

If you think a child is only pressure to the parents, you are more naive
than you've previously shown.

...in answer to abortion being less risky than birth
>   Huh? Risky to who? It has 100% fatality rate for the fetus. Those
>don't seem like very good odds to me.

Seem like great odds to me, just about the only thing I know off that
is guaranteed to work. :) (besides running your car off a bridge, that
is just about guaranteed to total your car, unless you have an asinine
insurance agent:)

>Yes, but many consider a child to be worth it. What a shame that you don't...

Good, let them have children, I may too, one day.

>   That is our own free will.

And I wish you would actually understand what you just said. It is our
free will you want to remove.

Ron