From: tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa)
Subject: Re: Fetal Heartbeat (Re: Supreme Court)
Summary: Semantics?
Keywords: abortion julie brown sex
Organization: You see, Burke Lee
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:18:46 GMT

In article <Bs112E.Izr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> (Steven L. Kellmeyer) writes:
>In <unk article> Larry Margolis (LM) writes:

[misc. insults to LM, semantic clarifications, Li mention...]

>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>"We are totally opposed to abortion under any circumstances. We are also
>>opposed to abortifacient drugs and chemicals like the Pill and IUD, and
>>we are also opposed to all forms of birth control with the exception of
>>natural family planning." -- Judie Brown, President, American Life League
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Note that Judie knows the difference between "abortifacient drugs" ,
>"chemicals like the Pill" and the "IUD".   That's why she mentioned all 
>three types of things she opposes, instead of lumping everything into
>one category..

What does she mean?

1)  ...are also opposed to abortifacient drugs and chemicals (like the Pill
    and IUD), and we are also opposed to all forms of birth control with the
    exception of natural family planning.
 (The "Misinformed" interpretation [misinformed as to the Pill and IUD])

2)  ...are also opposed to abortifacient drugs, chemicals like the Pill,
    the IUD, and we are also opposed to all forms of birth control with the
    exception of natural family planning.
 (As I understand SLK--But why separate the Pill, the IUD, and "also...
  all forms of birth control?"  Three or four things she opposes?  I tend
  to find the "Misinformed" interpretation more believeable when she states
  the two separate types of birth control separately from the rest.)

>>"I don't think Christians should use birth control. You consummate your
>>marriage as often as you like -- and if you have babies, you have babies ..."
>>     -- Randall Terry, Executive Director, Operation Rescue
(Just wondering, does abstinance count?)

>>"Meanwhile, let it be clear what we do: we fight contraception-sterilization-
>>abortion on six continents ... " -- Fr. Paul Marx, President, Human Life
>>International
(Clear to me...)

>>"For instance, several years ago we tracked down a twelve-year-old girl
>>who was going to have an abortion, so that we could talk her out of it.
>>Talking a woman out of having an abortion is not news. But tracking her
>>down by using a private detective is."
>>"For those who say I can't impose my morality on others, I say just watch
>>me." -- Joseph Scheidler, Executive Director, Pro-Life Action League
(Wow!  If they were only the government...)

>>"I don't think we should punish the criminal (a rapist) by killing his
>>child." -- Dr. John Wilke, President, National Right to Life Committee
(Naah, let's punish the victim.)

>>"It's very healthy for a young girl to be deterred from promiscuity by
>>a fear of contracting a painful, incurable disease, cervical cancer,
>>or sterility, or the likelihood of giving birth to a dead, blind, or
>>brain-damaged baby (even ten years later when she may be happily
>>married)." -- Phyllis Schlafly, President, Eagle Forum
(Healthy?  I don't think so.  Besides, teens think that they are
invincible, and that's why long-term smoking effects don't seem to bother
them [in the anti-smoking arena].)

>>"Resist, expose, or stop immediately every public school or group sex
>>education program, no matter what it is called, or how it is diffused
>>into the curriculum." -- Fr. Paul Marx, President, Human Life International
(Yeah, it doesn't happen anyway...)


-Richard
Meddling stops a thinking brain.
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