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From: kvigil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kevin Vigil)
Subject: Re: Largest McDonalds
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:36:58 GMT

TAM131@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>Yes i have proof that the largest McDonalds is the Moscow McDonalds.  In my
>International Business text book (IE 303 here at Penn State) there is a 4 page
>case study about how the McDonalds in Moscow got started and some of the obstic
>les they had to over come.  Right now, that particular McDonalds seats 700 peop
>le on the inside and another 200 on the outside.  They started the process for
>the McDonalds in 1976 during the winter games.  It tool them that long to make
>all the contacts inside the government.  When it opned the cost for a Big Mac,
>fries and a coke cost the average worker 4 hours pay.  When they asked someone
>about why they were eating here when they could eat somewhere else for much les
>s he responded " I like the fast service here.  I only have to wait 45 minutes
>in line"  I guess it just goes to show you that you will pay a little more for
>faster service.  There were a ton of facts in there about it.  If anyone has an
>y specific questions about it.  Drop me a line and I'll see if I can answer it
>from the case study.  Keep munching those McD items everyone!!!

>                                                          Todd
        Sorry Todd, but the largest McDonald's is now in
        Beijing, China.   Thats what my McDonald's
        Management newsletter says.  The store opened on
        April 23, 1992.  Moscow was the largest until then.
                
                                        --  Kevin
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From: kkennedy@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin F. Kennedy)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Ketchup Dispensers
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:42:23 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


   A week or two ago I noticed some discussion about ketchup dispensers.
Well guess what.  The McDonalds that I work at now has two ketchup 
dispensers in the lobby.  This should be more convenient for both the 
customers and the crew people.  My manager said that it is cheaper than the
little packs that everyone seems to hate;  I think we still have some
around however.  I asked if this was a national policy but she did not
say.  She did say that she thought some McDonalds in D.C. have them.

kk

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Kevin Kennedy
email: kkennedy@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
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From: evorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Ed Vorst)
Subject: poll result
	Frankly, here in Winnipeg, I don't know that anyone ever eats
	  		el conquistador	
	( evorst@umanitoba.ccu.ca ) - Kiss my ass, I bought a boat
					        I'm going out to sea
							-L. Lovett
	
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:45:08 GMT
From: cvafy006@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Your McDonald's review is a crock of shit!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:37:01 GMT
Distribution: alt.mcdonalds
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvafy006

In article <1x7pvz@lynx.unm.edu>, trubik@triton.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo) writes:
> d92adali@IDA.LiU.SE (Adam (Beowulf) Lidvik) writes (generally):
>>Come on you guys out there, what is McDonald's ?
>> [McDonalds] is:
>>
>> Tasteless
>> Disgusting
>> Unhealthy
>> Boring
>> Expensive
>> Gathering place for nonthinking persons
>> And yes, I have visited McD in other countries, including US.
>>
>>	A hungry fellow
>>		Adam Lidvik
> 
> So, um, what's your point?  And would you like fries with that?
> 
> -steven

Well then, I guess you must have tried only the McDonald's hamburgers and 
cheeseburgers...because there are a shitload of other menu items that are
good.  If I want a snack...three McDonald's cheeseburgers will do just fine!
And at 69 cents each...they're a steal!  Also...I am assuming that you don't
like the Big Mac.  I've got news for you...despite it's lack of tomato...the
McDonald's Big Mac has more flavor than an In-N-Out Double-Double!!!  Then
you have the McDLT -- yes, I know it's the McLean Deluxe now...but you can 
get a regular McDLT for the same price on request...it's an awesome single.
Let's put it this way...McDonald's is fast food, but it's better than Burger
King -- whose burgers taste like lighter fluid.  It's better than Carl's Jr.,
a place that throws things together w/o pride.  It beats the pants off of
Jack-In-The-Box and Wendy's.

Also some more rebuttals...Uhealthful?  What fast food is!
                           Boring...then go to the Hard Rock Cafi for Christ's
                                    sake.
                           Expensive?  Bullshit!  Where else can you get a 69
                                       cent cheeseburger!!!  JITB charges
                                       99 cents for a HAMBURGER!
                           
I could go on...but you get the picture!  You tried it (I hope -- not just
once)
(and hopefully, not just one entree)...and you don't like it.  Well...I do
I don't mind you critiquing restaurants...but do it objectively...your
evaluation has no support and it is all opinion.  Only a democrat will buy
an argument w/o support.  I'm republican...I won't!   

Are we clear on where each of us stands????
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: trubik@hydra.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo)
Subject: POLL RESULTS
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 07:19:38 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Hi.  Here are the poll results, with an apology for the delay in posting:

8 votes each:	Cheeseburgers, Chicken McNuggets
8 votes total:	Quarter Pounder w/cheese (6), QP (2)
5 votes:	Big Mac	
4 votes:	Cheddar Melt, Filet o'Fish*
3 votes:	Hamburgers
2 votes each:	Chicken Sandwich, Triple Cheeseburger,
		Double Cheeseburger, Garden Salad,
		McRib, McDLT**
1 vote each:	Chicken Fajitas, McLean Burger,
		McPizza*** (cheese), Chicken Salad,
		Sausage McMuffins, Hotcakes and Sausage,
		Egg McMuffin, Poutine****, McLobster*****
1 vote each:	Fries, Coke, Hot Apple Pie,
		Vanilla Shakes, Bran & Raisin Muffins,
		Pumpkin Pie (in season), Cheeseburger
		Happy Meal

* Actually, one of these votes was for the German 'FischMac,' which
  we (myself and the voter) determined was equivalent.
** Does anybody still have these at their local McD's?  Was its death
   due to criticism of the styrofoam packaging?
*** Regional.
**** As described by the voter: "Poutine consists of McDonald's french
     fries, a brown sort of gravy and cold cheddar cheese curds which
     are scattered on top.  They usually serve it in a small bucket-like
     container.  I think it is a bastardization of a traditional
     Quebecois dish."  Described by another voter as sounding "very
     decadent . . . something you'd have to wash down with a beer, or
     some wine to cut all of the FAT."  I think a field trip to Quebec
     is in order.
***** Regional.

Questions, comments, criticisms, food, to:

steven
trubik@triton.unm.edu
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From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Big Mac Special Sauce
Keywords: What's really in it?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:54:51 GMT

The Big Mac 'special' sauce is made by McCormick's (the spice people),
and is basically thousand island with onion and pickle relish and tons 
of preservatives and thickeners, etc.

-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
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From: trubik@hydra.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: Oklahoma Turnpike
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 05:02:14 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In <kauffman.47.720839296@slab.unt.edu> kauffman@slab.unt.edu 
    (DON KAUFFMAN) writes:
>
>I read something a few months ago in a humor book about the largest
>McDonald's in the U.S., somewhere in Oklahoma.  I believe that an
>entire turnpike exit is devoted to this McDonald's, which straddles
>the road.  I was looking for some more information about this
>McDonald's.  Does anybody out there work there?  Is it really the
>largest in the U.S.?  Is it the largest in the world?

Yes, it does exist and _claims_ to be the largest in the world.
I don't know if that's true anymore.  As a matter of fact, I thought
it wasn't _that_ big when I stopped by.  There's another McD's
on the same turnpike that has a McGift Shop.  A much better stop
because there's more odd stuff there to see.  Actually, now that
I think about it, it may be on the next turnpike over . . . let's
see, one's the Will Rogers turnpike and one's the Turner turnpike
and I always get the two confused.  They also both have signs
on them that say "DO NOT DRIVE INTO SMOKE," and the speed cops
all have 5.0 Mustangs.  But I digress.

I would imagine that somebody out there does indeed work there :)

- s t e v e n

p.s.  survey results forthcoming.
From: kkennedy@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin F. Kennedy)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Re: when?
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:18:53 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

s91001ra@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Rie Aizawa) writes:
> Does anyone know when did mcdonald's started(was founded)?
> 
> -Rie 

   According to my Crew Member's Handbook, McDonald's started in 1955.
Here are some of the early milestones as listed in my handbook.  If
anyone wants more let me know.

1948  Dick and Mac McDonald opened the first McDonald's drive-in 
      restaurant in December in San Bernadino, Ca.

1954  Ray Kroc, a Multimixer salesman from Oak Park, Illinois, visited
      Dick and Mac's San Burnadino McDonalds's.  His curiosity was initially
      arroused by the number of Multimixers they were buying.

1955  April 15, Ray Kroc opened his first McDonald's in Des Plaines, 
      Illinois.

1957  McDonald's became known for the motto "QSC for Quality, Service and
      Cleanliness."

1960  "Look for the Golden Arches," McDonald's first jingle, played on the
      radio.

1961  Hamburger University opened in the basement of the Elk Grove Village,
      Illinois restaurant and conferred Bachelor of Hamburgerology degrees
      on the first graduationg class.
.
.
.

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From: jbeer@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jason R. Beerhalter)
Subject: Re: Wendy's has pretty good shakes too!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:25:45 GMT


In article <100525@bu.edu> afinch@bu.edu (Andrew Finch) writes:
>
>	I hate to say it, but the Frosty that you can get
>	at Wendy's is much more enjoyable than the ones
>	you can get at McD's. My friend had a run-in w/
>	a roach at McD's (it was in his shake).

Sometimes when I have to open the shake machine in the morning, I see a whole
family running out of the back of it where the shake stuff is stored during
the day. Thought you'd enjoy that...
From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Re: Oklahoma Turnpike
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:03:53 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida

kauffman@slab.unt.edu (DON KAUFFMAN) writes:


>I read something a few months ago in a humor book about the largest
>McDonald's in the U.S., somewhere in Oklahoma.  I believe that an
>entire turnpike exit is devoted to this McDonald's, which straddles
>the road.  I was looking for some more information about this
>McDonald's.  Does anybody out there work there?  Is it really the
>largest in the U.S.?  Is it the largest in the world?  If not, where
>is the world's largest McDonald's?  

The world's largest is in Moscow.

>And does anybody know what book
>I may have read about it in?  It was about a guy and his dog driving
>to a bunch of cool places in the U.S., I believe.  Thanks.

Sounds like Steinbeck's "My Travels With Charlie" (which, incidentally,
I hear is being made into a movie).

mark
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: 900082m@ace.acadiau.ca (KATHLEEN MCLEAN)
Subject: re: no trash
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:51:54 GMT

	Yes it's possible to get food on your own plate.  Some elementary 
school kids made a habit of bringing their own plates with them.  You could 
also ask for the food to be put on  a napkin or something (less waste).
	How do employees feel about this?  Is is much of a hassle?
From: IO10536@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Re: Big Mac Special Sauce
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:02:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I don't know specifically what is in it, but there are
usually posterboards up that have ingredients.  Or you can
ask for the nutritional information sheets which also list
ingredients.
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: rcj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Craig Jamieson)
Subject: Are all the managers like this?
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Distribution: World
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:52:19 GMT

Article 944 of alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.d:
Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.d,alt.sex,alt.sex.wizards,alt.sex.bondage
From: chriso@cs.concordia.ca (Chris O'Regan)
Subject: Re: 12 yrs old?
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:52:22 GMT

In article <1dqqduINNi1e@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dgillesp@heartland.bradley.edu writes:
>I don't understand all your less than and greater than and equals signs in
>with your explanation.

   Didn't you ever learn math?  This is grade ten stuff...

>>A person may give consent to sex provided:
>>1) age >= 12.
>>2) if 12 <= age < 14, the partner(s) are not be more than 2 years older.
>>3) if 12 <= age < 18, the partners(s) are not be in a "position of
>>   authority" over the person giving consent.  This is defined in more
>>   detail, but is basially sensible.
>
>2 looks like that if they are 12 that the other person can't be over 14.  3
>looks like if they are 12 that the other person can't be over 18.  That
>doesn't make any sense.

   The explanation is very clear.  An individual has to be 12 years old
or older to give consent to have sex.  If the individual is between the
ages 12 and 14, then they can only give consent to sex with an individual
no more than 2 years older than him/her.  For example, let's say Bobby
is 12, then Bobby cannot give consent to sex with anyone older than 14;
if Bobby is 14 then Bobby cannot give consent to sex with anyone older
than 16.  Finally, the individual has to be over 18 to give consent to
sex with a person in a "position of authority".  That is, if Bobby is
15 and works at McDonald's, Bobby can't give consent to sex with any
of the managers.

   Hmmm..it's a good thing he didn't give the more detailed version...

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From: kflorek@mtholyoke.edu (Kim Florek)
Subject: Re: Q-ing ovens
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:18:27 GMT

breadner kenneth cecil joseph u (brea9430@mach1.wlu.ca) wrote:
> We just got these monstrosities today. Our kitchen was in total disarray
> while we installed them and their brother bun-warmers. I have yet to try
> the food produced by one of these, and I am not sure if I should.
> 
> They told me that these are essentially microwaves (very high-power,
> around 2100 watts). If that ever gets out to the general public in Canada,
> we will lose most of our customers overnight. Most of my acquaintances
> avoid Burger King because they use microwaves. Why would McDonald's want
> to emulate Burger King's disaster?
> 
> Is it true that the Q-ing oven improves the food, or is it propaganda? 
> 
> -- 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ken Breadner: student, Wilfrid Laurier University, Waterloo, Canada-for-now.


THE FOLLOWING IS FROM A FRIEND OF MINE:
 

For the first few weeks your kitchen area will be in total disarry!   
You are basically being trained as if you just walk in thru the door.
However, it does get easier.

The quality of the food is definitly hotter, BUT not necessarily better.
From: cahelp@pell3l4.alleg.edu (CA Help Desk)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: SOUP OF THE DAY
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:58:00 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College

Hey at our shmuck's we've got this soup of the day thing, my brother says  
it's really good, sorry I'll just stick to value meal number 2.
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin)
Subject: Re: POLL RESULTS
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 14:53:32 GMT
Organization: Atheist for the Development of a Better God

In article <d#aqlpf@lynx.unm.edu> trubik@hydra.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo) writes:
>Hi.  Here are the poll results, with an apology for the delay in posting:
>McDLT**
>** Does anybody still have these at their local McD's?  Was its death
>   due to criticism of the styrofoam packaging?

	I asked about he demise of the McDLT at one of the local
McD's right after they got rid of it. The told me that the reason
was that it had been replaced by the far more Politically Correct
McLean. Basically the same sandwhich, but it is leaner and has no
styrofoam packaging which should make marketing it easier. 

	While I am babbling on about McD's...

Last week, I the thought of YetAnother trip to McDonald's nearly made
me retch. I had only been there 4 times in 2 days. This sucks. I used
to be able to eat McD's 7 days a week, 2-3 times a day. But I was
young, poor and worked a McD's, then. 
-- 
Chris Baldwin                | Once again, Russ has saved the day through the 
baldwin@carina.unm.edu       | proper use of high explosives.  
                             |		 -Dan Sorenson
"Is it just a coincidence that aliens always choose to abduct stupid people?"
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:57:57 EST
From: Amy Antonucci <AEA1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: re: no trash

Well unless you order a grill item, it wouldn't be much use since we
wrap the food before it gets ordered.  If you do order a grill item,
asking to have it put on a napkin wouldn't be a problem (unless the
crewmember is in a bad mood).
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From: follick@hydra.unm.edu (Joshua Follick)
Subject: Re: CHOCOLATE WEST OF NEBRASKA
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 06:54:58 GMT
Organization: Paintball Underground

In article <1992Nov4.142255.8408@iscsvax.uni.edu> In%"Hickman3278@iscsvax.uni" writes:
>  Does any body realize that McDonald's does not carry chocolate milkshakes, or
>ice cream west of Nebraska?
>  My family went ou to California 2yrs. ago and we couldn't believe that there
>wasn't any chocolate milkshakes. The machines didn't even have a place where
>chocolate could be put in to accomodate the customers.
>  Has there ever been chocolate west of Nebraska? If any body knows let me
>know.
>
>
>
>   Jeanette Hickman
>   309 Hagemann
>   University of Northern Iowa
>   Cedar Falls, Ia. 50613

    Here in Albuquerque, NM we have fozen yogurt at many
of our McDs. Often at very reasonable prices for large
servings. I believe that there are at least some Mcds
that have chocolate froyos, I'll check on shakes.
-- 
Old Jedi Master: Ahh Joshua, You are more machine now than man, twisted and
evil.
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but still on the net!
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From: brea9430@mach1.wlu.ca (breadner kenneth cecil joseph u)
Subject: Q-ing ovens
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:38:17 GMT

We just got these monstrosities today. Our kitchen was in total disarray
while we installed them and their brother bun-warmers. I have yet to try
the food produced by one of these, and I am not sure if I should.

They told me that these are essentially microwaves (very high-power,
around 2100 watts). If that ever gets out to the general public in Canada,
we will lose most of our customers overnight. Most of my acquaintances
avoid Burger King because they use microwaves. Why would McDonald's want
to emulate Burger King's disaster?

Is it true that the Q-ing oven improves the food, or is it propaganda? 

-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ken Breadner: student, Wilfrid Laurier University, Waterloo, Canada-for-now.
WLU: "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here!"         Smile: it
E-mail: brea9430@mach1.wlu.ca (the BREADbox...)     is contagious! 
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From: citta@teal.csn.org (John Bender)
Subject: Re: views of consciousness
Keywords: Eastern vs Western also
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: alt.consciousness
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:55:18 GMT

>     In the recent discussion about methods of approach to the question of
> consciousness, I became aware belatedly that there are at least two differing
> notions of the origin of consciousness, or of causality, if you will.
>
>      One of these holds I think that the cnsciousness of a human being
> arises from molecular ineractions in the cells that make up the brain. In
> such a view, I think there is little reason and justification for the
> existence of a soul, and that when one dies, that is it. There is no more
> existence.

> The other view holds that consciousness arises out of the presence of
> a soul which has taken on a physical body temporarily. In this case,
> consciousness is seen as more spiritual, as opposed to physical. Accordingly,
> when one dies, one's existence is not terminated, but continues, though
> changed perhaps. It is a weakness of this view that the existence of a soul
> is required. This is a question people have been discussing for as long as
> anyone knows, going WAY back. As far as I know, no-one knows the answer, or
> if they do, they're not saying. (Of course, it could be the sort of thing
> that one COULDN'T describe once known.)      

Actually, these two views represent the extremes rather than the only
alternatives.  The Western views that you have enumerated for us are
conventionally called reductionism and dualism.  There are other ways
to look at the problem, though.  Buddhist thought, for instance, posits
a theory of interdependent orignation.  This system is very complex, but
the essence is simple: (1) there is no "soul" in the sense of an unchanging
essence in a being (2) there is no spiritual "substance" which is somehow
analogous to, but different from ordinary matter.  Rather, the self is
a process which is dependent upon the matter of the body (neural cells,
etc.) but is not reducible to the deterministic physical properties of the 
body.

I find this topic fascinating, and would enjoy continuing to discuss it
in more detail in the future.
				John

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From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: Spirit in the light of Kriya
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:45:52 GMT

Another reminder to potential posters of followups to this thread:

Please remove "alt.out-of-body" from the "Newsgroups:" line if you post
future articles on this subject.  Its subject matter makes it inappropriate
for posting in the alt.out-of-body newsgroup.

Also, I'm sure that folks in alt.consiousness, and possibly in alt.paranormal
feel the same.

Thanks!
--
    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
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    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
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