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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:01:14 -0700
From:         Stephen Jackson <kgbpyr!stephen@CSUFRES.CSUFRESNO.EDU>
Subject: Re: Flowchart program
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There are several programs which are designed to produce flowcharts.
The Windows one that I know of is ABC Flowcharter.  The only one that
I have personal experience with is Flowcharting 3+ and I did not care
for it.  It did not treat the flowchart pieces as separate objects.  This
is a purely personal preference, others may like the way the program
worked.

			Stephen Jackson
                        stephen@kgbpyr.portal.com
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:48:00 CET
From:         David White IAEA Vienna <XID@IAEA1.BITNET>
Subject: Re: SYSTEM EDITOR PROGRAMME (I THINK) FOR WINDOWS

SYSEDIT is in the SYSTEM subdirecory (ie C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM)

> The program you refer to is "sysedit.exe", which comes with Windows, it should
> be in you distribution disk set, I'm not sure which, but it is probably in
> compressed form.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:41:10 HKT
From:         Leonard Chan <lschan@ALIENS.ATTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      *.zoo files

Can anyone tell be what is *.zoo file? Is it a compressed file?

If so, please tell me what is the decompressor and where I can find it.

THANKS in advance,

Leonard Chan <lschan@aliens.attmail.com>
Systems Engineer
Jardine Office Systems
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:51:55 LCL
From:         CS24@PRIMEA.DUNDEE.AC.UK
Subject:      windows & Novell

I have a problem with Windows 3.1 and Novell 3.11. The problem is when
I use the MSDOS prompt when logged onto the network and goto a Dos
prompt I lose all the paths and prompt statements. This works fine
if I am not logged onto the network. I am running Windows from my own
machine and not off the network,there are other machines displaying the same
fault. My machine is a 386DX-33Mhz with 4Mb memory, 100Mb hard disk
and a VGA screen. I am running Microsoft MSDOS V 5.0. Anyone got any ideals,
thanks in advance.
pete
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:37:05 BST
From:         A.S.Booth@DURHAM.AC.UK
Subject:      Turbo driver installaltion for Orchid ProIIs

If anyone has tried to install the ColorView ET4000 Turbo drivers for use with
an Orchid ProIIs card, you might have noticed that the good old synch problems
have returned.

To get around this, download the ET$TURBO.ZIP file from CICA, copy all the
files EXCEPT the VDDUTIL4.386 file into your windows/system dir, make sure
you have the VDDUTIL4.386 file from v1.5 of Orchid's own drivers there too,
then you're away - no more synch problems.

Andy Booth
Durham UK
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:13:01 -0600
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: File manager question...

The FILE MANAGER disk refresh command is F5 for those interested.
floppy disk refresh command is F5 for those interested,
that may save you a little time of fumbling with the mouse and finding
the menu option.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:25:00 CDT
From:         Howard Blakesley <HBLAKE@NNOMED.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Hidden screens

I just tried the hidden screens and got the same thing as Chris
Jones.  But I agree, what a stupid way to waste a valuable
resource (diskspace!!!!).
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From: nat@owlnet.rice.edu (Nathaniel W Guyton)
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Date: 17 Aug 1992 15:45:11 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <9208162204.AA20308@quaestor> "Vance M. Gloster" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM> writes:
>  From: Jim Bingham <LBU05%UKANVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
>     Not a Windows question, but I didn't know where else to post it.  If
>  you'll please reply directly, we won't clutter the list.
>     Can someone tell me if the "CD-ROM interface" mentioned in the ads for
>  the SoundBlaster Pro is a SCSI interface.  Or, even better, could you tell
>  me which CD-ROM drives interface properly with the SB Pro?
>     Thanks.
>
>cdrom-l@uccvma.ucop.edu is a CD-ROM maillist which is a better place
>for this type of question.  The SBPro is not SCSI, it is proprietary.
>As far as I know, the only drive that works with it is a Sony that
>they bundle with it.  The Pro Audio Spectrum boards have a true SCSI
>interface on them.

Actually, it's a Panasonic 521.  And yes, this is the only drive that will
work with the SBpro.  No it is not SCSI, ESDI, etc.  To see more, this
topic was just discussed in alt-cdrom (or whatever...) 

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From:         "J. Theo Lieverst Informatie Centrum BIV (RUL) Tst 3188"
              <LIEVERST@RULBUR.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
Subject:      BETA NT

How can i order a beta relaese of nt?
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:18:13 -0400
From:         Jameson Spence <jess@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      Re: looking for a f a s t graphics-adaptor (like diamond stealth)

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992, Markus Lauff at UK5J@DKAUNI2.BITNET wrote:

> i have a 486/33 with 20 mb ram and a 200 mb hd
> now i am looking for a
fast graphics adaptor
> could anyone send me information about several cards ?
> whats about the diamond stealth ?

I am currently using the ATI ULTRA Graphics Accelerator. It seems to
increase the speed dramatically in graphics oriented applications. One of
the nice features is the abundance of drivers they ship with the card. This
includes special font capabilities (crystal fonts). It's quite expensive,
but it's stable, quick and the support seems good.

....Jamie

Jameson Spence
Information Administrator
Telecommunications, 017D Steacie
York University (Ext #22717)
From: mariusk@idt.unit.no (Marius Kjeldahl)
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Subject: Re: ListBox in a Window
Date: 12 Aug 92 06:26:37 GMT
Reply-To: mariusk@idt.unit.no (Marius Kjeldahl)
Organization: Div. of CS & Telematics, Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <9208120003.AA26993@quaestor>, revri@INFERENCE.COM (Anurang Revri) writes:
|> Hello Windows Experts!
|> 
|> I am using the C/C++ 7.0 MFC to draw a screen. To start with I am attempting
|> to draw a list box on on main app window. This list is a customized class
|> which is a child of CListBox.
|> 
...

Since I am a Borland user I`ve barely looked at the MFC. However with
the Borland class library for Windows (ObjectWindows) there is a big
difference between CreateWindow and MakeWindow. For all child windows
and controls I have to use MakeWindow instead of CreateWindow. I think
CreateWindows and MakeWindows are extension of the ordinary Windows
API, so maybe you have a MakeWindow method in MFC too..

Marius
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:49:37 CDT
From:         "Chet Farmer, Asst. Dir., Project IDEALS" <CFARMER1@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Win 3.1 Progman secret screen
              20 Aug 1992 11:11:13 +0200 from
              <gerling@FAUPT101.PHYSIK.UNI-ERLANGEN.DE>

On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:11:13 +0200 Rainer W. Gerling said:
>I theink this hidden screens is something to massivley protest about. If I
>assume that ten applications have hidden screens which take 100KBytes of
>code and pictures each then 1 MByte of my harddisk is wasted by this
>garbage. MS and others should really think about this and get away with it.

Oh, please.  Quit whining about it.  If you don't like it, write your
own windowing system.  I'm certain such a bland, no-frills system will
rapidly take the pc world by storm, since most everyone is bound to be
as offended by frivolity as you seem to be.

>=======================================================================
>Rainer W. Gerling                      Tel.:  +49 9131 85-8451 (office)
>Institut f"ur Theoretische Physik I           +49 9190 703     (home)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:56:36 EST
From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: How do I resize BITMAPS?
X-To:         glenn@admin.acadiau.ca, WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu

There is a program called PaintShop Pro on the CICA ftp. This will
resize any way you want.



Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:45:28 -0400
From:         Louis Jezsik <jezsik@PX3.STFX.CA>
Subject:      Re: date format
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>
I understood the international date format to be YY-MM-DD, optionally
YYYY-MM-DD.  Maybe I am referencing too old a document.  Anyone know
when the latest reference document was published?
>
My fault, I really don't remember what the seperaters are: / or -.
In any event, my point is to put the year first so the month then
they day will follow logically.
Louis
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:54:50 CDT
From:         Moore <moore@EMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: del misc lines in .ini files
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              19, 92 11:01 pm

> Delta is produced by:

> - run Delta to create a profile of selected directory/ies
> - install new Win application
> - run Delta to create a profile of same directory/ies
>        then to produce a comparison report file (which has to be
>        viewed by some other program: Write,Notepad etc)
> - the comparison report contains three parts:
>   - files added
>   - files deleted
>   - files modified

I've only scanned the recent PC-Magazine articles, but doesn't their utility
called INCTRL (or some such, like "In Control") do the same thing for free?
I believe I've already seen that at Cica in the uploads directory. It was pub-
lished either in vol 11 no 13 or vol 11 no 14...

--
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From: laurie@vms.huji.ac.il
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Subject: Re: Arabic Font??
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:27:26 GMT
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Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <WIN3-L%92081123361830@UICVM.BITNET>, HOUSSAH5@EGAUCACS.BITNET writes:
> Hi,
>         I wonder if anyone could tell me about some TRICKLE server
> (or FTP site) where I can find an Arabic Font for Windows, (truetype
> or normal). I am in real bad need for this font so any help will be
> greatly appreciated.
> Thanks in advance.
>
>                                                 Houssam Amer
Houssam
I just thought you would like to know that MS in Israel just announced
hebrew support for windows it comes with meny TT fonts and support for
writing right to left I asume they will have an Arabic version to but
I don't know for shoure.  it is worth cheking in to
Joey
Hebrew U.
Jerusalem Israel

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 06:58:00 CDT
From:         Howard Blakesley <HBLAKE@NNOMED.BITNET>
Subject:      Paradox and Windows

A subscriber writes:

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From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Win3.1, EMM386, and memory

While we're on the topic of PIF's... has anyone been successful in creating
a pif for PARADOX 3.5 to allow the machine to run in protected mode vs. real
in paradox?
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I run PARADOX 3.5 only infrequently under WINDOWS 3.1 because of
continuing lockup problems.  I suspect it has to do with Borland's
propriatary memory management system.  However, when forced
to run it, I use typical DOS default settings and start it up
"first". This is before any Windows apps.  I also never run another
DOS app under Windows at the same time.  This gives me the best
chance for a successful session.  I am eagerly awaiting PARADOX
for WINDOWS.  The reviews look terrif!!!
HTH
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:46:44 MDT
From:         "Ian P. Mitchell" <22016@UCDASVM1.ADMIN.UCALGARY.CA>
Subject:      date format

From:    Ian P. Mitchell
*** Resending note of 92-08-17 09:35

>The official international date format is YY/MM/DD so today
     ??????????????????????????????????
Is there such a thing? I think not. It is just called "international format".
Can you really see the United Nations agreeing on something as useful
as that?

A few years ago in Canada, when metrication started, the format YY/MM/DD
was proposed as being "the metric date format"! Beat that!
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:13:00 PST
From:         Sidney Tao <STAO@SCU.BITNET>
Subject:      GIF viewer for WINDOWS31

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>From: Nuno Melo <QNMFS@PTEARN.BITNET>
>Subject:GIF viewer for WINDOWS31
>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:13:39 PRT
>Message-ID:<9031B71960000144@SCU.BITNET>

>Hello!!
>    I`m looking for a PD or Shareware GIF viewer for WIN31, someone told me abo
>ut Wingif available at cica. If someone knows about others give me a call, plea
>se.
>
>   I`m looking also for FTP sites having GIF files available.
>
>       Thank`s in advance to you all
>
>
>                       Nuno Melo   QNMFS@PTEARN.BITNET

wingif14.zip if available at ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the directory
pub/pc/win3/demo

Sidney Tao
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:20:00 EDT
From:         Vince Scarafino <Scarafino@MULTICS-A.PMS.FORD.COM>
Subject:      Re: date format inanities
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 >Date:  18 August 1992 17:04 edt
 >From:  cbowie at NSF.GOV
 >Subject:  Re: date format inanities

 >                STANDARD USENET REPLY FORM
 >
 >To  : WIN3-L___________________
 >From: CHUCK BOWIE______________
 >
 >I have read your recent post concerning DATE FORMATS___________
 >posted to WIN3-L______________.

 ......

I found this response more offensive and a greater waste of bandwidth (I
think it easily included more bytes of data) than the entire Date Format
discussion to "date".

Vince
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:36:06 -0500
From:         "Vassilis Loumis-UNI.ATHENS" <vloumis@LEON.ARIADNE-T.GR>
Subject:      Win 3.1 Progman secret screen

Hello everyone,

I suppose we are all familiar with the secret screen that can be seen when one
repeatedly double clicks on the Windows Logo in the Help/About dialog screen,
while holdind down ctrl-shift.

Yet, in the August issue of PC Magazine Bill Machrone reports that there is
more to it... Specefically, he says that if someone repeats this process 3
times, clicking on different colors of the flag will finally produce the faces
of 4 senior Microsoft executives, Bill Gates included|

My question is: has anyone who has read the article been able to reproduce
that effect? I have tried, but could not do it myself. I was wondering if that
could be the result of me running in 800x600x256 and having Norton desctop 2.0
as my Windows shell, instead of running at VGA resolution with Progman as the
shell...

If anyone knows something, please post to the list. I think others would be
interested too.

Many regards,

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:06:00 CDT
From:         "Wile E. Coyote" <BBHULSEY@LIFE.UAMS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Flowchart program
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Greetings!

Philip writes:

>Does anyone know which software can produce flowchart easily ?
>
>It can be a Windows or DOS software. We have PageMaker, Designer,
>Harvard Graphics , Freelance, Lotus 1-2-3 and Wordperfect
>for Windows.  But as I tried, none of them can produce arrow easily.
>
>Am I right ?
>
>Thanks for help.

There's also another program out there called RFflow.  They will send you a
working demo for free which does everything the full version does except
you're limited to 16 'items' on your flowchart.  If you're interested, write
me back and I'll look up the address and phone number for you.

.......
:  o/ : Bruce Hulsey
: <|  : Univ. of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
: / > : internet: bbhulsey@life.uams.edu
:.....: bitnet:   bbhulsey@uams
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:24:00 EST
From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Help: WinExec
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:15:00 CDT
From: $LPAHM0%LUCCPUA.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu

> I use WinExec to run two programs. The first one is a pif file and
> the second one is a Windows production. I want the second one not to
> run until the first one finishes. But When I use WinExec to do this,
> Windows always let them run almost samultaniously(Multi-Task?)
>
> Is there any way to get around with this?

David,

In the PIF for the first program check the "Exclusive" box.  This will
prevent any other app (DOS or Win) from executing while it is in the
foreground.  Might a macro accomplish this too?

Joe Morris, undergraduate & Assoc. Data Analyst in Raleigh, NC
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:48:00 EST
From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Win3.1 Paintbrush problem
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I am "trying" to perform a simple task in Paintbrush (the one that comes
with Win3.1) and I am having disastorous results.

I am using TT fonts and using simple lines and rectangles.  Nothing fancy,
just a basic flowchart.  This is the first time using this Paintbrush too.

Well, I fill up the page with some drawings; go back to the top of the
page; then back down to the bottom.  And lo and behold--everything is
screwed up!  Bits and pieces from the page are also appearing at the bottom
now including a piece of the title bar for the window!  I try to go back up
and back down again (thinking "Oh, I guess Win3.1 just didn't redisplay the
window correctly and I'll redraw it) but nothing happens, it's still there!

What in the world is going on here?!?  CompuAdd 386sx16MHz, TSENG ET4000
board and drivers, 1024x768x16.

Should I give up and start looking for some shareware?

Joe Morris, undergraduate & Assoc. Data Analyst in Raleigh, NC
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:32:00 CDT
From:         Howard Blakesley <HBLAKE@NNOMED.BITNET>
Subject: Re: BMP -> RLE

Thanks for the nudge Harry. That did it. Will let you know
which I like better.
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