From: southiea@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Southiere Alain)
Subject: Re: Quebec
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:27:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.100902.19818@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>>    Last week canadians voted against the Chalottetown accord. But on what base
>> do you think the next constitutional negociations will stand ? The same ones
>> because it was the only reachable agreement (MP said that, not me). So the
>> next time, we'll get the same accord written differently and so on.
>> Federalists do not seem to accept defeat.
>
>I agree. Next time, however, I hope they will make it clear and not write up
>something so ambiguous it could be interpreted in so many contradictive ways.

   How can an impossible agreement be written clearly ? To agree on 
somthing, they have to make so much compromise that it would be impossible
to get a CLEAR an non-ambiguous agreement.

>>    BTW, as I understood when Mulroney was elected, wasn't the objective of
>> the next constitutional negociation supposed to be the reinsertion of Quebec
>> in Canada, since technically, Quebec is not a full member of Canada because
>> the 1982 agreement was signed in a secret reunion where Levesque wasn't
>> invited ("la nuit des longs couteaux"), thanks to Trudeau and Chretien !
>
>This is one (distorted IMHO) opinion of why Levesque refused to sign.

   Levesque didn't refused to signed the agreement, it was done behind his
back. BTW, before this last metting where they all (except Levesque, who
wasn't invited :-) signed, Levesque was in a strong position, with the 
majority of prime-ministers on his side, but it would seem that they
pref, all in all, this hypocritical agreement than a real one...
Leading to all the problems we have today.

>>>> Third example:
>>>> Didn't you remember in october 1969 with the FLQ that the canadian army 
>>>> was holding a lot of quebecers as criminals. But in fact the FLQ membership
>>>> was about 30 and that number counts infiltrators of RCMP in it.
>>>
>>>Who were responsible for kidnapping and murder?
>> 
>>    Responsible for the kidnapping : The FLQ. responsible for the murder, which
>> murder ? Police waited for so long before opening the car's trunk were he
>> was (almost a day) that he could have been alive for the first hours but
>> died because of the time he spent in there.
>
>Oh so it was the fault of the police. I see.

   I didn't say that. But if he was alive at the time, but in critical
condition, it COULD be the fault of the police (RCMP). The same RCMP that
put barns on fire and later accusing members of the FLQ. The same RCMP
that was beliving a communist plot was going on in Quebec. What, you
didn't know that Trudeau and the RCMP taught that the FLQ was composed
of thousand quebec's communist assisted by the URSS ans Cuba ?

>>    Well, here's the story, according to some FLQ members, journalists and
>> even police. Laporte was held hostage in a house somewhere. He tried to
>> escape but badly injured himself (he tried to break out by a window or
>> something like that). His kidnappers put it in the trunk of a car (he was
>> still alive a this time, according to these sources) and they drove the car
>> to a vacant lot. They called a journalist at a radio station, telling him
>> where the car was and that Laporte was badly hurt. The journalist got there,
>> and called the police. Once the police arrived, they waited for hours to
>> open the trunk, giving the time to Laporte do die from his injuries.
>> 
>
>So it wasn't the fault of the kidnappers that he died - is that what you
>are saying?

   NOT ! But a quicker intervention COULD have saved him.

>>>> Sixth example:
>>>> The diversity of malfunctions of the canadian federation.
>>>
>>>Specific examples in present context please?
>> 
>>    Just one and it's enough : the debt !
>
>:-)))
>
>What is the money being spent on?
>
>:-)))))

   Well, a lot on these futile constitutional negociations. But the country
was in bankrupt long before these constitutional talks.

   BTW, the most ironical of all this is that if an individual was in
an economical situation as bad as the gvt, he would probably be arrested,
put in bankrupt and god knows what !

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