HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Internet Access in Montr
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:08:01 GMT
Organization: Mala's Refuge, Montreal, Canada

In <727406623.AA06414@illusion.tpg.org> Tim.Owen@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Tim Owen) writes:
>Just about any BBs on any net (fido, itc or mtl) has access to 
>internet since most nets are tied in to one another.  For 
>private email, make sure the BBS has an area called NetMail or 
>something to that effect.  I'm on a BBS called Not just 
>Genealogy (can't remember the phone no, 'cause it's always 
>autodialed), and it has all three nets (fido, itc and mtl), and 
>I have already sent and received email to/from a friend at Mt. 
>Allison University in New Brunswick.. 


	True, but UUCP BBS, such as mine, connect, usualy, much faster
with the Internet.  I have exchange mail with friends all over the world,
sometimes taking less than an hour for the mail to get from the sender to
me.  Can you honestly say FidoNet boards do that?  Not likely, since the
hubs only exchange mail during the cheap hours, which makes sense.  My
connection, and most UUCP boards' too, are done much more often than that.


-- 
=========================================================================
Internet: Ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca     |   I was going to put
Genie:    M.Lombart1                    |   something witty here,
UUCP:     uunet!proteus!mala!ranfry     |   but could think of nothing
Mala's Refuge (514)748-8070             |   so I won't bother!
=========================================================================
From: robert@CAM.ORG (Robert Masse)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Looking for Chinese Lessons (Cantonese)
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:52:23 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

I am looking for a school of sorts that will allow me to
partake in learning Cantonese.  Right now, I have the level
of a 3 year old, understanding basic stuff, counting, etc.

I know of a few schools but they are rather expensive.  
If anyone has suggestions, please mail me.

Thanks in advance,

Rob

Happy New Year.


-- 
Robert Masse
Computer Consultant
Voice (514)466 2689   robert@cam.org		robert@loki.concordia.ca
Fax   (514)444 9182   robert@comsec.cam.org
From: Yvon.Decelles@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Yvon Decelles)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Internet Access in Montreal
Date: 20 Jan 93 11:45:00 GMT

Hello Gordon,


Your previous message about Internet Access in Montreal said


 GD> How often does the email get sent and how many times
 GD> a day are the usenet groups updated?

 Email is sent right after you leave the BBS and mail is update about
 20-25 times a day accross the different network.


Origin SysOp:    Yvon Decelles
Origin Internet: Yvon.Decelles@f123.n167.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: iceman@cs.mcgill.ca (Tuan HUYNH)
Subject: Think C 4.0 manuals for sale
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: mtl
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:45:02 GMT


For sale:
=========

        * THINK C 4.0 manuals for the Macintosh. Cheap price includes original
        box. Either E-mail me an offer at iceman@cs.mcgill.ca or phone
        (514) 284-3787.


______________________________________________________________________________
Tuan Huynh          ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| McGill University, Canada
Iceman@CS.McGILL.CA ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| School Of Computer Science
Xref: sparky mtl.general:835 misc.forsale:36076 us.forsale.misc:130 ca.general:1646 ca.wanted:1721 can.general:6332 tor.general:1761 ott.general:1675 umontreal.general:24
From: fakhouri@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA (Elie Fakhouri)
Newsgroups: mtl.general,misc.forsale,us.forsale.misc,ca.general,ca.wanted,can.general,concordia.general,tor.general,ott.general,umontreal.general
Subject: For Sale : PARADOX 4.0 For DOS
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:44:48 GMT
Organization: INRS Telecommunications


For Sale, 

Paradox 4.0 Package (Brand New)
Price $400 (or make me an offer)

EMF
-- 
============================================================================
Elie Michel Fakhouri
INRS-Telecommunications, Verdun , Quebec
E-Mail  : fakhouri@inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca
Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.general
From: lgoodfie@sobeco.com (l.goodfield)
Subject: Re: Software Jobs
Organization: Sobeco Ernst & Young
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:53:06 GMT

In <C12CuD.4u9@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG> steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins) writes:

>Last week in the Globe and Mail was a series of articles on "The Jobless
>Recovery", the thesis of which was that Canadian businesses were doing well
>with fewer people, particularly low-skill workers and managers.

>But in nearly each article they managed to mention a "critical shortage" of
>software developers.  Can anyone comment on this?

If there exists a "critical shortage" of software developers, then why is
it that so many MIS people possessing both solid working experience and
university education are out of work, specifically, in Montreal and
Toronto. One obvious reason, I suspect, is that many companies are afraid
to spend the money to get quality people; On many contracts that I have
worked on, I have witnesed cost-cutting measures that most often come back
to haunt the company.

-- 
Lionel Goodfield                       |  And all you touch and all you see
(514) 592-4204                         |  Is all your life will ever be.
InterNet: lgoodfie@sobeco.sobeco.com   |
    UUCP: uunet!sobeco!lgoodfie!       |         (Roger Waters, 1972)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: weiss@cwis.unomaha.edu (R. Jason Weiss)
Subject: Have a souvlaki for me
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:22:36 GMT

Howdy,

When did this newsgroup start?  Oh well, since I'm living in Omaha now, the
two things I miss most about Montreal are the Habs and the food.  (The tax
and the roads, I don't miss.)  For some reason, I saw the Expos on TV more
this summer than I ever did in Canada, so I don't miss them quite as much. 
Anyway, if you can, go to Zorba's souvlaki on St. Viateur (or maybe
Fairmount) by Park and have a souvlaki for me.  I wish I could go myself.

...Jay
--
weiss@cwis.unomaha.edu
Newsgroups: socs.misc,mtl.general,soc.penpal,can.general
From: hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (Peter Choi)
Subject: YEAR OF THE ROOSTER : HAPPY NEW YEAR !!
Keywords: Rooster New Year Celebration Chinese Lunar Calender
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:38:06 GMT


HAPPY NEW YEAR !!  Year of the Rooster!
BONNE ANNEE !!	Annee du Coq!

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				Best wishes to those celebrating the
				Lunar calender New Year.
				

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
				Peter Choi
[preferred] hfrg@cs.mcgill.ca (132.206.51.9) or [alt] pchoi@nyongwa.cam.org
McGill University, School of Computer Science, Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Dial up connection?
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:30:00 GMT
Organization: Radio Free Nyongwa -- public unix/usenet in Montreal, 284-6693
X-Advert: Mail/News feeds available -- email postmaster for details.

In article <727737187.AA06924@illusion.tpg.org> Hans.Thorwaldsen@f100.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Hans Thorwaldsen) writes:
>To: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG
>
>SMR>Either free or commercial, in fact.  If you actually require INTERNET
>   >capabilities (ftp, telnet, etc) then you can buy a shell account on
>   >altitude.cam.org...
>
>How does one go about that? I called the number listed in Juxtaposition's
>list (514-738-3664) but met little success. I tried "guest", "anonymous"
>and so on to no avail.

Ha!  They don't have any guest account logins yet, but yours truly is
working on it!

Please: if anyone knows of other internet sites in montreal selling
accounts, let me know!


Here's some rate and contact info for altitude:

			Monthly Access Rates (Oct. 1 - Dec. 31 1992)		

					2400bps		9600-14400bps
					-------		-------------	
Interactive and UUCP partial feed	35$		30$	
Interactive Shell Access		25		25	
Dial-up SLIP usage*			n/a		30	
UUCP Full Newsfeed			n/a		20	
UUCP Partial newsfeed **		15		10	
UUCP email-only feed			5		5	
			
* Includes shell access			
** Under 5meg/week @2400bps, under 20meg/week @ 9600-14400bps.			
   (compressed average)			
			
Note: All interactive accounts feature full Internet 			
      access (ftp, telnet, irc, etc...)			

-- 
+--------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
    Pascal Gosselin        |     Communications Accessibles Montreal  
    pascal@CAM.ORG         |  A non-profit corporation.  Newsfeeds & More.   
  Apple Support Specialist |  For info: info@CAM.ORG or Voice (514) 923-2102 


-- 
Steve Robbins  --  steve@nyongwa.cam.org
First time surrealists are often confused by
the similarities between fish and telephones.
From: Tim.Owen@f210.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Tim Owen)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Internet Access in Montr
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:40:02 GMT

To: ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) 
 On 01-21-93 Ranfry wrote to All... 
 
 R >  True, but UUCP BBS, such as mine, connect, usualy, much faster 
 R > with the Internet.  I have exchange mail with friends all over the 
 R > world, 
 R > sometimes taking less than an hour for the mail to get from the sender 
 R > to 
 R > me.  Can you honestly say FidoNet boards do that?  Not likely, since 
 R > the 
 R > hubs only exchange mail during the cheap hours, which makes sense.  My 
 R > connection, and most UUCP boards' too, are done much more often than 
 R > that. 
 
I can honestly say that some fidonet boards can do that.  I know 
that board that I am on, sends out mail to the gateway as soon 
as I log off.  Then it's all up to the gateway how long it takes 
to put it onto the internet.  As you say it's usually done 
straight away.  As for imcoming mail, does your UUCP board poll 
your hub, or does the hub call your board when it has mail for 
it?  If a local Network is being used (such as MTLnet), then 
since the calls are NOT long distance, it would be possible to 
set up a board that polls the UUCP gateway every 1/2 hour.   
 
Tiny tim 
 
... OFFLINE 1.42 * A loose nut at the wheel isn't as dangerous as a t
From: Hans.Thorwaldsen@f100.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Hans Thorwaldsen)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Dial up connection?
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:42:00 GMT

To: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG

SMR>Either free or commercial, in fact.  If you actually require INTERNET
   >capabilities (ftp, telnet, etc) then you can buy a shell account on
   >altitude.cam.org...

How does one go about that? I called the number listed in Juxtaposition's
list (514-738-3664) but met little success. I tried "guest", "anonymous"
and so on to no avail.

             Thanks! HT
 ~ QMPro 1.01 41-4348 ~ If at first you don't succeed, so much for skydiving
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: R.U.N: raving in Montreal
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:07:28 GMT

This is to inform you of a low volume moderated email list covering
the techno/rave scene in Montreal and suburbia.

If you are interested, please use the reply function of your newsreader
or simply email me, asking to get on the R.U.N. list.

The list name is R.U.N., or Raving Up North.

Ciao,
--
Francois Dion
    '  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
      (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian SPENCER)
Subject: I can't wait
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: mtl
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:56:11 GMT

The following post contains subject matter which relates to a Montreal
area professional sports team. If this doesn't appeal to you, press n.



I just read on rec.sport.baseball that the Expos were given 8:1 odds at
winning the World Series this year, tied with two other teams and behind
Atalanta at 3:1 ant Toronto at 4:1. This is excellent. The people down
south actually believes we have a good team. I can't wait for the season
to begin.

Brian "I hope my heart doesn't get broken again" Spencer

Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: salvailp@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Pierre Salvail)
Subject: Acheterais compatible IBM XT
Organization: Universite de Montreal, Canada
Distribution: mtl
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:46:13 GMT

Je cherche un ordinateur compatible IBM XT avec ecran
et disque dur.

vous pouvez me repondre a salvailp@iro.umontreal.ca
ou au 272-6189.

Newsgroups: mtl.test
From: goofy@totally.bogus.mail.edu (Guess Who it might be....)
Subject: toadally bogus!
Summary: a bogus test
Keywords: test
Organization: Computenmaschinengesellschaft
Distribution: mtl
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:23:54 GMT

this is a toadally bogus test.....

Newsgroups: mtl.test
From: mailhot@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Pierre Mailhot)
Subject: test encore
Originator: mailhot@megantic.iro.umontreal.ca
Organization: Universite de Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:24:55 GMT


Interessant.   Ca marches-tu s't'affaire la?
-- 
Pierre Mailhot   E-mail: mailhot@IRO.UMontreal.CA   Fax: (514) 343-5834
                 Tel: (514) 343-6111 ext. 3530	    Local: X-220
                 Universite de Montreal, Dept. IRO, C.P. 6128, Succ. A,
                 Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3C 3J7
Newsgroups: mtl.test
From: mailhot@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Pierre Mailhot)
Subject: test
Originator: mailhot@megantic.iro.umontreal.ca
Organization: Universite de Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:30:50 GMT


lksfdalkjaflkjasdlk
lkjfdaskjasfdkla

This is a test
-- 
Pierre Mailhot   E-mail: mailhot@IRO.UMontreal.CA   Fax: (514) 343-5834
                 Tel: (514) 343-6111 ext. 3530	    Local: X-220
                 Universite de Montreal, Dept. IRO, C.P. 6128, Succ. A,
                 Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H3C 3J7
Newsgroups: mtl.test
From: tessier@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Jean Tessier)
Subject: Ye!!  Ca marche!!!
Originator: tessier@neige.iro.umontreal.ca
Organization: Universite de Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:46:17 GMT


Pis Helene s'en va bientot...
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Jean Tessier                       |  e-mail: tessier@iro.umontreal.ca |
| Etudiant au MSc en Protoco, DIRO   |          tessier@jsp.umontreal.ca |
| Pavillon principal, U-205          |                                   |
| Universite de Montreal, Canada     |  3280 Linton, app #12             |
| tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3508       |  Montreal, H3S 1S9 (514) 342-8750 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: mtl.test
From: tessier@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Jean Tessier)
Subject: Juste encore un petit test
Originator: tessier@neige.iro.umontreal.ca
Organization: Universite de Montreal, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:09:05 GMT


gagaga

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Jean Tessier                       |  e-mail: tessier@iro.umontreal.ca |
| Etudiant au MSc en Protoco, DIRO   |          tessier@jsp.umontreal.ca |
| Pavillon principal, U-205          |                                   |
| Universite de Montreal, Canada     |  3280 Linton, app #12             |
| tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3508       |  Montreal, H3S 1S9 (514) 342-8750 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Jean Tessier                       |  e-mail: tessier@iro.umontreal.ca |
| Etudiant au MSc en Protoco, DIRO   |          tessier@jsp.umontreal.ca |
| Pavillon principal, U-205          |                                   |
| Universite de Montreal, Canada     |  3280 Linton, app #12             |
| tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3508       |  Montreal, H3S 1S9 (514) 342-8750 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: mtl.test
From: tessier@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Jean Tessier)
Subject: Eh oui, c'est encore moi...
Originator: tessier@neige.iro.umontreal.ca
Organization: Universite de Montreal, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:12:32 GMT


Ca semble marche cette fois-ci...

-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Jean Tessier                       |  e-mail: tessier@iro.umontreal.ca |
| Etudiant au MSc en Protoco, DIRO   |          tessier@jsp.umontreal.ca |
| Pavillon principal, U-205          |                                   |
| Universite de Montreal, Canada     |  3280 Linton, app #12             |
| tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3508       |  Montreal, H3S 1S9 (514) 342-8750 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Jean Tessier                       |  e-mail: tessier@iro.umontreal.ca |
| Etudiant au MSc en Protoco, DIRO   |          tessier@jsp.umontreal.ca |
| Pavillon principal, U-205          |                                   |
| Universite de Montreal, Canada     |  3280 Linton, app #12             |
| tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3508       |  Montreal, H3S 1S9 (514) 342-8750 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: mtl.test
From: tessier@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Jean Tessier)
Subject: Encore un essai...
Originator: tessier@neige.iro.umontreal.ca
Organization: Universite de Montreal, Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:28:36 GMT



Dans une semaine, je serai au Japon!!!
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Jean Tessier                       |  e-mail: tessier@iro.umontreal.ca |
| Etudiant au MSc en Protoco, DIRO   |          tessier@jsp.umontreal.ca |
| Pavillon principal, U-205          |                                   |
| Universite de Montreal, Canada     |  3280 Linton, app #12             |
| tel: (514) 343-6111 ext 3508       |  Montreal, H3S 1S9 (514) 342-8750 |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: pdx.running
From: rdurant@rdurant.mentorg.com (Rich Durant)
Subject: OH3, Full Moon Hash, Fri 2/5/93 8:00pm, Beaverton OR
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:21:21
Distribution: pdx
Organization: engr


                          Greetings from OH3
                     (Oregon Hash House Harriers)

                            FULL MOON HASH


Where:
   McMenamin's Pub
   Murray Blvd
   Beaverton, OR

When:
   Friday night February 5, 1993 at 8:00pm

Hash Cash:
   $6.00

BRING A FLASHLIGHT!

Directions:
   217 to Allen Blvd. West on Allen (1 1/2 - 2 miles). Left on Murray
   Blvd. McMenamin's is in the shopping Center on the West side of
   Murray. 


           The Oregon Hash House Harriers now has a hotline!
           Call (503) 321-5125 anytime for coming hash runs.



      "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom...for we 
       never know what is enough until we know what is more than 
       enough."   -- Blake

--
                    rich_durant@mentorg.com
                   | Mentor Graphics Corp  | Phone: 503-685-7000
                   | 8005 SW Boeckman Road | Fax:   503-685-1202
                   | Wilsonville, OR 97070 |
Newsgroups: pdx.running
From: rdurant@rdurant.mentorg.com (Rich Durant)
Subject: CORRECTION OH3, Sun 1/24/93 2:00p, Rocky Butte Prison, Portland OR
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:06:29
Distribution: pdx
Organization: engr


CORRECTION OH3, Sun 1/24/93 2:00p, Rocky Butte Prison, Portland OR

Naturally the directions on the flyer I scanned in are wrong! At the
last hash Robo Dick never got to the On-Home. When we found him he
claims he never saw even one hashmark?!

Anyhow after consulting my Thomas street guide last night the
directions should have read:
      NORTH on NE 82nd Avenue, take a right on Fremont, circle around
      moonlike buildings to the top of Rocky Butte. Meet on top of the
      fort structure.
      (Fremont is at the 3400 block on NE 82nd Ave.)
      If you're not familiar with the area. Take I-205 to I-84 west,
      or I-5 to I-84 east, to exit 5. Go north on 213 (you are now on
      NE 82nd Ave) to Fremont.

 > 
 >                           Greetings from OH3
 >                      (Oregon Hash House Harriers)
 > 
 > 
 >                        Break Out of Prison Hash!
 > 
 > This hash starts near Rocky Butte Prison where some of you may
 > recognize your past!#%$@&*$#.
 > 
 > Be there 2:00pm sharp!
 > 
 > Directions: 
 >      South on SE 82nd Avenue, take a right on Fremont, circle around
 >      moonlike buildings to the top of Rocky Butte. Meet on top of the
 >      fort structure.
 > 
 > Hash Cash:
 >      $10.00
 > 
 > Hares:
 >      Minnie Mounter and Robo Dick
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > OnOn -- Woodpecker
 > 
 > 
 > "The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom...for we 
 > never know what is enough until we know what is more than 
 > enough."   -- Blake
 > 
--
      Rich          rich_durant@mentorg.com
                   | Mentor Graphics Corp  | Phone: 503-685-7000
                   | 8005 SW Boeckman Road | Fax:   503-685-1202
                   | Wilsonville, OR 97070 |
Newsgroups: pdx.online
From: marcf@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Marc Frommer)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Roofer recommendations sought
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:55:23 GMT
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

We are beginning to think about putting a new roof on our home. Does
anyone out there have any recommendations for roofers?  We would also
be replacing our gutters and would love to have one outfit deal with
the whole mess.

Thanks. 
-- 
Marc Frommer
marcf@sail.LABS.TEK.COM
CAChe Scientific, Inc.
627-1200
From: wesley@sequent.com (Wesley Zottman)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Albina Community Plan
Summary: What is it?
Keywords: Concerned Resident
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:38:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan21.213851.12119
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.


Can anyone out there give me a non-biased description of what
the "loosening" of the accessory rental zoning in the Overlook
neighborhood means? It sounds like quite a controversy in veiw
of the community meeting I attended.

Any information would be great!

Thanks,
Wes


-- 
 ******************************************************************************
       Wesley G. Zottman--Sequent Computer Systems Inc.--wesley@sequent.com
                           Manufacturing System Support
                     (503) 578-3060              "ESP is ME!"
Newsgroups: pdx.general,or.general,pnw.general,pdx.forsale,or.forsale,pnw.forsale,misc.jobs.contract