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From: terri@austin.ibm.com (Terri Fukuhara)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Team USA gets rattled!
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:18:19 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmchs!auschs!aspencer.austin.ibm.com!aspencer
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division
Originator: terri@f81alpha.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Jul27.205701.16429@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, kaena@haleiwa.austin.ibm.com () writes:
> 
> I think our U.S. team is just as bad as the experts say. They aren't favored
> to win the Silver let alone the Gold, but the way they played against Japan
> by allowing one hitter to "eat them alive", they deserved the loss. I am glad
> the Japanese got the appeal, I hope the team will learn from the experience
> and "kick ass" before this is over. This humbling experience shoudl get their
> egos out of the clouds and now they will be able to play REAL volleyball.
> And someone please "shoot" Samuelson!

I'd have to agree that the US deserved the loss.  I haven't watched that
much international play this last year, but I thought their passing was
horrible.  If they didn't shank it, they passed it three feet off the net
and all the Japanese had to do is camp out on the hitters.

Terri


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: oski@leland.Stanford.EDU (L. Ravi Narasimhan)
Subject: Re: Lori Endicott
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 05:09:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.043845.2688@ee.gatech.edu> wung@eecom.gatech.edu writes:
>In article 29089@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu, umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz) writes:
>>
>>   What? Lori Endicott wasn't setting for the US team? Are you sure?
>>There must be something wrong with her. She is probably one of the best
>>setters in the world. Not the best blocker, but hey, she's only 5'9"
>>tall. 
	  <--	Drooling deleted  -->
>
>Apparently Liskevych like the way Setterlund sets, and he may also be playing
>psychological games with Setterlund and the Japanese.  You know, home girl
>playing for the big bad americans.  Or, Endicott may have had problems blocking,
>but I thought she was one of the best blocking setters around.  Oh well, I've
>given up figuring out Liskevych, I leave that to the pros.
>
>---

This just in, according to Marlowe and Sunderland, Endicott is sick.
She has been vomiting most utterly, they say.  Apparently she dehydrates
easily and has problems adjusting to long travel.


				--- Ravi Narasimhan
From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Beach Sports Cards
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:37:07 GMT
Reply-To: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


Hi,

Anybody out there see the new beach sports trading cards?  I've
been looking out for them and haven't really seen them around.
I did manage to get some and they're pretty good.  Each card has
a picture in front, a close-up picture in back with a little
paragraph about the player(s).  It's kind of strange though to
get two of the same cards in one pack.  Anyway, check them out.

Howard
-- 
Howard Shiau                       bc751@cleveland.freenet.edu
Cosyde Corporation                 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: nacsjwb@acsprod1.acs.ncsu.edu (Jim Busch)
Subject: AVP Tour
Organization: North Carolina State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:14:38 GMT

	Does anyone happen to know the AVP tour schedule for the rest 
of the summer?  More specifically, are they going to be anywhere near
North Carolina (maybe Myrtle Beach?) this year?  I moved here from San
Diego last winter, and am discovering that it's a bit harder to find 
these things out down here.  Thanks  - Jim.
From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Volleyball in Boston area
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:08:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Educational Computing Network


   Volleyball? Lots! There is at least one Open/A/B grass or sand
doubles tournament every weekend. Mass has lots of them. IYou are also
very local to tournaments in NH, RI and CT. There is some 6-man going on
in the summer, but not lots. BUT! Come September, the indoor season
starts up again. The levels go from C- (your average beginner) to A- in
NERVA/Yankee and then BB to Open in USVBA tournaments. It would be
helpful to know what your rating would be and then I could tell you who
to get in contact with. There are tons of C+, B- and B teams in the
area. The higher you get, the less teams there are. 
 
   Any questions, send me personal mail.
 
 
                                           - Drummer -
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: Help with Olympic box score
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:46:11 GMT

   Well, my local paper (Providence Journal Bulletin) had some pseudo
type box score. It listed something like this... Kills, serves, blocks,
digs, passing and assists. Then, it went on to list a player for each of
the categories. So, it was like Timmons 33, Timmons 33, Ivie 28,
Ctrvtlik 25, Fortune 81 and Stork 94. It had to be a percentage because
I know Timmons had 50 kills. Ok, the real numbers...

   Serve, attack, block, pass, dig, set - Timmons 31%, Timmons 65%,
Ivie 33%, Fortune 81%, Ctvrtlik 32%, Stork 92%. So, that is what *I* get
here in RI. Wow, Timmons got 65% of the sets? Sheesh!



                                              - Drummer -


   Does USA Today have a more complete box score?



Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: mt@support.aii.com
Subject: Re: USA/Japan, bad TV coverage
Organization: Automation Intelligence, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:04:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.171645.1176@wuecl.wustl.edu> gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.155516.11590@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kaabrown@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (kathy ann brown) writes:
>] I thought the TV coverage stunk too.  I can't believe NBC thinks a 
>] travelog is more important.  Isn't this the Olympics or what?
>] 
>] Katie
>I too dislike watching these side-stories. But, I think you must
>realize that NBC wants people just like you and me to buy the
>triplecast. I think it's a pretty good incentive! But there are
>plenty of pluses and minuses that have already been discussed.
>BNC wants to lure the non-sports people with its public broadcast,
>and the sports fans with its triplecas

The opening ceremony was a disaster with Costa trying to compare
Barcelona/Catalona with Seoul/S.Korea and making those idiotic remarks
about Steve Reeves never having looked like this Hercules.The finally
was Ok but they really cut too much into the opening dances.

Sunday Night Around 11:20 PM, I explicitly heard from NBC that they were
going to show the game in its entirety.Imagine my surprise when after the
news around 12:30 AM they jumped right in the middle of the second game.
All in all I thought that the coverage was above average ( I'm talking
here about the commentators Marlow and somebody else. ) .NBC took however
an eternity to bring the 5th game after that silly interview with Karl
Malone , the useless coverage of Barcelona's discos, and the commercials.

As far as triple cast, I know that the local cable companies are supposed
to pocket about 45% to 55% of the proceeds, and I am not prepared to 
foot the bill when after all I'm already paying for cable and the rest
of the world audience is getting the Barcelona World feed for Free.
Besides Triple Cast does not offer All sports out-there ( Limited
Soccer , No Team HandBall , ... )

Monday Night saw hardly any time dedicated to the Men's Gymnastics than the
previous night when the Women competed.
-- 
Mahmoud Tighiouart mt@aii.com
Automation Intelligence,Inc.,1200 W. Colonial Drive, Orlando, FL 32804
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: thom@cac.washington.edu (Thom Roholt)
Subject: Re: inconsequential net hits?
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:49:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.202244.5677@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jxr1092@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>   In the USA vs. Japan match, a USA pass went long and almost under the net,
>but was recovered by the setter, after which it appeared that the setter hit
>the net.  Is it OK to hit the net in such a situation where it doesn't really
>matter, or does the ref just suck?
>
>						Jens
>


Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: alanj@dadd.ti.com (Alan Jones,AMJ1,)
Subject: RedSandPaper
Reply-To: alanj@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:36:09 GMT

Last night I finally watched the US/Canada men's match, which I had recorded.
Sunderland had a great comment - he said Timmons' shaved head will cause problems
for his "RedSand" company, which uses his trademark red hair for their logo.  He
said he'll have to change the name of the company to "RedSandPaper"!

---
sincerely,
Alan Jones  /  Texas Instruments, Dallas, TX  /  email=alanj@dadd.ti.com

Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: kaabrown@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (K. A. Brown)
Subject: Volleyball Videos
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:41:35 GMT

I am going to coach a bunch of beginners, at highschool level, and
I would like some recommendations for some films.  I want to 
purchase a few.  I have seen the old one with Debbie Green in it, but
I don't know the title.  Something that covers rotation and some plays
would be great. 

Any ideas?

Thanks.

--Katie
[kaabrown@ucs.indiana.edu]
From: montnaro@spyder.crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Japan vs. USA (spoil, comment)
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:19:25 GMT
	<1992Jul27.134724.5966@infonode.ingr.com>
Reply-To: montanaro@crd.ge.com (Skip Montanaro)
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

In article <1992Jul27.134724.5966@infonode.ingr.com> scott@bell.b17a.ingr.com (Scott Bell) writes:

   |> 
   |> It's interesting that the NBC coverage has better replays.
   |> 
	   Yep, I agree.

Let's be fair here. The triplecast folks may have very little chance to edit
things before you see them. (I don't know for sure, but I suspect it's
viewed on the triplecast station(s) before the regular NBC broadcast.)
Besides, if they're losing money on the triplecast, they may have redirected
resources toward other, more profitable, area. The producers have more time
before the regular broadcast to decide what might be interesting to viewers
and edit together a sequence that has better camera angles, more commentary
on how good or bad the play and officiating is, etc.

--
Skip (montanaro@crd.ge.com)
From: thom@cac.washington.edu (Thom Roholt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Volleyball in the Seattle Area
Keywords: 2 man, 3 man, Volleyball
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:07:10 GMT
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing

I am looking for 3 or 5 other medium advanced to advanced players to play 2's or 3's on the
beautiful sand beaches of the Seattle area.  Or, I would like to join a group that
already plays and is willing to let me join.  If interested please get e-mail me at
thom@nwnet.net.  
  
 Thanks,
   Thom
From: melson@usc.edu (Mike Melson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Volleyball in Boston area
Date: 23 Jul 1992 09:32:43 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


Hi -

I'd like to know if anyone can tell me how much volleyball one can
expect to find in the Boston area (Burlington actually). I'm
considering taking a job out there (but only if I can find enough
volleyball - a person's got to have their priorities, right? :)

Anyway, I'm from the LA area and play league 3-4 nights a week and
tourneys most Saturdays (when there's not riots, earthquakes or 
hurricanes :o ) Does anyone out there know if there is enough
*competitive* VB in the Boston area to support this kind of addiction?

Thanks for the help,
Mike

< melson@aludra.usc.edu >
From: kaena@haleiwa.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Team USA gets rattled!
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:57:01 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin


I think our U.S. team is just as bad as the experts say. They aren't favored
to win the Silver let alone the Gold, but the way they played against Japan
by allowing one hitter to "eat them alive", they deserved the loss. I am glad
the Japanese got the appeal, I hope the team will learn from the experience
and "kick ass" before this is over. This humbling experience shoudl get their
egos out of the clouds and now they will be able to play REAL volleyball.
And someone please "shoot" Samuelson!
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: Steve@newsbase.cs.yale.edu (Steve Morytko)
Subject: New London Jose Cuervo
Organization: University of Connecticut Computing Center
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:50:46 GMT

Anyone on the list playing at Jose Cuervo in New London CT this 
weekend? How about you Drummer? Steve (The Slimer) and George	
(The Hammer) plan to be there playing in A division. You'll know
us by the canes we have to use to move around (we're 40 and 46
respectively). Are there any older doubles teams out there?
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From: ethchen@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edwin T. Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Japan vs. USA (spoiler, ruling)
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:23:19 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <Bs21up.F15@news.cso.uiuc.edu> liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:
>What a mess.

I agree.  Great referees, no?  How many blown calls did y'all see?   

>In any case, the top 4 teams from each pool go to the playoffs, and
>the top teams in the US pool were thought to be the US and Italy.

I'm a bit unclear on all this qualifying business.  So, how is the US
team going to fare now that they've been ruled a loss?

Ed
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Crazy Transfer Fees
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:57:04 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


Has the world gone mad ? Why are clubs paying over the top
fees for players like Alan Shearer (4 million) and Geoff Thomas (ersenal
want to pay 2.5 million). Shearer may be good young player but he's not
an established internationalist yet. Make's you wonder what a young 
Gary Lineker would be worth nowadays. This just means that fees for
other players will be way over the top. DOesnt make the 2.5 million
Rangers will hopefully pay for Trevor Steven seem too bad...


Sandy Mackinnon
Univ of Strathclyde
Glasgow
cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Olympic Soccer--Standings
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:43:51 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


 Pool A             W   L   T    GF   GA    PTS.   Diff.
 -------------------------------------------------------
 Poland             1   0   0     2    0     2      +2
 Italy              1   0   0     2    1     2      +1
 United States      0   1   0     1    2     0      -1
 Kuwait             0   1   0     0    2     0      -2

 Friday,July 24
 ITALY 2, UNITED STATES 1
 POLAND 2, KUWAIT 0

 Monday, July 27
 UNITED STATES VS. KUWAIT
 ITALY VS. POLAND



 Pool B             W   L   T    GF   GA    PTS.   Diff.
 --------------------------------------------------------
 Spain              1   0   0     4    0     2      +4
 Qatar              1   0   0     1    0     2      +1
 Egypt              0   1   0     0    1     0      -1
 Colombia           0   1   0     0    4     0      -4

 Friday, July 24
 SPAIN 4, COLOMBIA 0
 QATAR 1, EGYPT 0

 Monday, July 27
 COLOMBIA VS. QATAR
 SPAIN VS. EGYPT



 Pool C             W   L   T    GF   GA    PTS.   Diff.
 --------------------------------------------------------
 Morocco            0   0   1     1    1     1       -
 South Korea        0   0   1     1    1     1       -
 Paraguay           0   0   1     0    0     1       -
 Sweden             0   0   1     0    0     1       -

 Sunday, July 26
 MOROCCO 1, SOUTH KOREA 1
 SWEDEN 0, PARAGUAY 0

 Tuesday, July 28
 SWEDEN VS. MOROCCO
 PARAGUAY VS. SOUTH KOREA



 Pool D             W   L   T    GF   GA    PTS.   Diff.
 --------------------------------------------------------
 Ghana              1   0   0     3    1     2      +2
 Denmark            0   0   1     1    1     1       -
 Mexico             0   0   1     1    1     1       -
 Australia          0   1   0     1    3     0      -2

 Sunday, July 26
 GHANA 3, AUSTRALIA 1
 DENMARK 1, MEXICO 1

 Tuesday, July 28
 GHANA VS. DENMARK
 MEXICO VS. AUSTRALIA




 Miguel Figueroa
 UT-SAN ANTONIO
 mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu
From: james@hisoft.com (James C. Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: My picks for the English league
Date: 22 Jul 1992 16:58:45 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I have no basis for my picks, but then again, if they were honest,
who does?

Liverpool
Arsenal 
Manchester City
Leeds
Sheffield Wednesday
Aston Villa
Nottingham Forest
Tottenham Hotspur
Oldham
Manchester United
Norwich
Crystal Palace
Sheffield United
Ipswich
Queen's Park Rangers
Chelsea
Southampton
Coventry
Blackburn Rovers
Middlesborough
Wimbledon
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: kgamble@OES.ORST.EDU (Kevin Gamble)
Subject: Re: Soccer Attendance at the Olympics
Organization: Oregon State University Extension Service, Corvallis, OR
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:43:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.083719.16861@rdg.dec.com> spain@galvia.enet.dec.com () writes:
>--
>Footbvall in the Olympics is taken very seriously.  It will be well
>attended again in Barcelona.  It's here to stay.

This morning's paper had an article on the US v Italy game taking
place today. It mentioned that there had only been 10,000 tickets
sold in a stadium that seats 120,000.'

Kevin Gamble (kgamble@oes.orst.edu)
From: DeBarger@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: among the thugs
Date: 25 Jul 92 00:08:25 GMT
Organization: SLAC

In article <YePNTGi00Uzx42WHAS@andrew.cmu.edu> ps2g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul M.
Smith) writes:
>If anyone out there has read Bill Buford's Among the Thugs,
>I'm interested in collecting responses to it.

I have read the book.  I cannot attest tho the accuracy of the stories Buford
relates, nor can I comment on the past or present state of "hooliganism" at 
English football matches.  With that cleared up, here are my observations:

Buford is not much of a soccer fan.  He admits that he knew very little about
the game prior to his research for the book.  His comments about the action 
on the pitch are simplistic; he makes a great deal of the low scoring nature
of the game.  He does not share the passion for the game that is evident among 
the r.s.s. posters.

The focus of the book is on the behavior of the hooligans before, during and
after the match.  It is made clear that the hooligans are a small minority
of all the fans at any given match.  Buford's book is similar to Hunter 
Thompson's "Hells Angels", in that the author established some relatively
lengthy friendships with the members of an overtly lawless group, and
participated in their notorious activities.

Buford describes travel to the matches and pregame activities.  He comments on
the conditions in the terraces and experience of watching a match as part
of a crowd.  The post-game behavior of the "hooligans" receives much attention.
At times Buford digresses into the association of some "hooligans" with
criminal 
activities like counterfitting and drug running.  He also talks about the 
National Front's efforts to recruit the hoodlums.

The aspect of the book that I found most interesting was his description of
crossing the line from individual to crowd behavior.  There have been many 
times in my life when I have been in or near a crowd on the verge of some 
major violence.  This is an experience not easily forgotten.  I don't think
that one who has been in this sort of situation could read this book without
being strongly affected by Buford's descriptions of the crowd violence he 
experienced.

If you wish to read a book about soccer, this is not a book for you.
If you are looking for some observations on crowd behavior, then I think
that you will find the book gripping.

Just my $.02  (and with the dollar as weak as it is, that's not much)

Scott DeBarger        "And all the science,
SLAC                   I don't understand.
                       It's just my job five days a week"
Stanford, CA                - Elton John

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: US Italy was on the Triplecast Friday
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 14:30:31 GMT

I don't know how this occured but the white channel showed the US Italy
game on tape Friday night.  Anybody know whats going on here?  I seen a ton of schedules and none of them said anything about this game being shown.  My
guess is that since they didn't have anything else to show, they put that game
on.  I don't think that this will happen again but it might be worth calling
and asking about.  I know alot of people who have called and complained about
the lack of soccer coverage on the triplecast.  Maybe, just maybe we got
through to someone.

Andy
From: BRIAN.JEFFREY.COOK@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: eurosport catalog and QPR help!!!!!
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:56:12 GMT

good day!!  i just received the eurosport catalog and had a few 
questions.  they are starting to get into merchandising of certain 
teams, Bayern Munich, Arsenal and liverpool. 
they had replica italian, american, german, beligan uniforms.
.
my problem is that my favorite team, QPR is not represented among the
teams selected for eurosport. 
i was wondering where can i get my hands on QPR merchandising information
and other english stuff for us here in the states??
.
thanks!!!!
.
-brian j. cook
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: RE: What the Dream Team Hopes to Prove
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:54:06 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <9207291456.AA10995@netmail.microsoft.com>, t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci) writes:

> Maybe if the rest of the World gave the US the same treatment with 
> basketball outside the US that's been given soccer IN the US, maybe 
> they would understand better why we the soccer fans of the US (and I 
> guess those outside the US) would love to see more soccer.
> 
> Why should there be (2) standards?  If they want acceptance abroad for 
> basketball, by God they better show acceptance locally for soccer!
> 
> Francis.

	But the US usually accept games that they could kick ass.  Look
at the way NBC broadcast the olympic games.  If someone else wins the medals, 
they will skip the medal receiving ceremony and switch to other events.

Jack Teh
From: shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: US Olympic Soccer - Team
Date: 28 Jul 1992 11:43:52 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

re Tom Dooley:  the Olympics are only for players under 23 years of
age.  Dooley is 29 or 30 years old, I believe, and therefore is 
not eligible to play.