From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, all-around curmdgeon and outright grough)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Golden Ears?
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:22:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23819
Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, all-around curmdgeon and outright grough)
Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals

In article <1992Oct6.024047.21236@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> crgoc@orlando.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor) writes:

>IMHO Mr Pierce,
>               what do you do in the loudspeaker consulting company, if it's
>dealing with customers in any way, and loudspeaker recomendations, your company
>is up shit creek. A more arrogant reply I have rarely seen. Reply's like
>the one you've given do nothing except discourage open ended discussion.

>|> In article <Bvnx26.9H8@world.std.com>, DPierce@world.std.com (Richard d Pierce) writes:
>|> >somebody else

>|> >Why does that AM car radio sound so good after weeks in the wilderness?
>|> To whom? AM radio sounds pretty dismal to me all the time, especially
>|> after weeks in the widlerness!
What's arrogant about that?  Sounds like his take on AM is just like
mine.  How is it arrogant to state one's preferences?

>|> >Why does a high end audio system sound better through an open door where
>|> >you are outside the stereo image of the speakers? 

>|> Who said it does? Does it sound better to you? Doesn't to me!
Nor to me.  Again, this is arrogance, to state one's
personal experience and preferences?  Why don't you be
more specific if you're going to attack the character of a
known professional?  I'd think you'd feel pretty exposed by now.

>|> >Who in this group can here if the speakers are reversed polarity?
>|> >what are these audible effects.

>|> Maybe audible, may not be.
Certainly audible if you have cheap loudspeakers, no doubt about that.
Less so if you use good headphones...

Again, what's arrogant about this that entitles you to attack the
gentleman's business?

>|> >What if only one speaker has polarity reversed?

>|> Easily audible, especially when switching the polarity back and forth
This is more firmly stated, but I must agree.  I've managed to
demonstrate the effects of out-of-phase speakers to many individuals,
without great difficulty.

Again, what is arrogant about this?

>|> >Can you tell if your speakers are matched pair?

>|> To what degree?
A good question.  NOTHING is perfectly matched, so one must
decide what degree is important first?  If you care to contribute
rather than defame, then answer the question.

I've deleted the rest of Dick's replies.  They're worth discussing
if you have any respect for the scientific method, but we seem to
be discussion your ad=hominem attacks on Dick instead.  Why don't
you explain to us how his discussion is arrogant?

Furthermore, you've accused Dick of trying to cut off discussion.
Why they does he ask questions intended to quantify or clarify issues
under discussion.  The heart of a dialogue is exchange of ideas
and discussion of the ideas in order to first understand the other's
ideas, and then to clarify them, and finally to resolve the
open issues.   That's exactly what Dick has done here.  Why
do you claim the opposite?
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