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From: bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: The price of a 6300 machine (was Re: 6300 keyboards)
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:26:31 GMT
Reply-To: bill@platypus.uofs.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Scranton, Scranton, PA

In article <1992Aug13.004247.2391@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>, dwj@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Daniel W. James) writes:
|> 
|> We are selling 2 of our old 6300's...  Anyone know what a fair asking price
|> might be???  I'm not sure my boss would go for something that low (unless
|> that is really all they are worth).  I would go for it, since I am going to
|> be aquiring one of them though...
|> 
|> Note that it's a standard 6300, mono with an st-225 20meg drive.

I just went to a Ham/Computer Fest and there was a vendor there selling 
brand new Turbo 8088 systems without monitor for $80.  Considering it's
got an 8086 and an st-225, I would place the value of the 6300 at about
$100.
Of course, it's worth what ever you can get for it.  

bill

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From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Sync-ing system clocks over StarLAN
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:20:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <168489264.R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu> R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:
"     I was wondering if anyone out there has any ideas on how I
"can easily sync my UNIX system clocks (4 3B2s 3 386WGS) via
"StarLAN?

(as root) remsh remote-machine date `date +%m%d%H%M%y`
will do it, simply & crudely.  you could probably conjure up something
using date +%S, expr, and sleep to improve it slightly.

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From: dwj@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Daniel W. James)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: The price of a 6300 machine (was Re: 6300 keyboards)
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:42:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

In <92224.190642U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> <U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> writes:

>I agree that the problem is just dirty keys - the 6300 you just pop off
>the top and push together two little tabes and the key assembly comes

Yes, but then you are still stuck with the 6300 keyboard--the most poorly
designed layout ever invented as far as I am concerned.

>specify the 6300 connector when you order from Northgate.  $200 is most
>defnately not worth it, since I just bought an old 6300 for a friend for
>only $180 complete.

I would tend to agree.  Only $180 though...?  I agree they are old and
pitiful machines by today's standards, but aren't they worth a little more
than that?

We are selling 2 of our old 6300's...  Anyone know what a fair asking price
might be???  I'm not sure my boss would go for something that low (unless
that is really all they are worth).  I would go for it, since I am going to
be aquiring one of them though...

Note that it's a standard 6300, mono with an st-225 20meg drive.
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From: merce@xenitec.on.ca (Jim Mercer)
Subject: NCR/AT&T Part Number for WIN/TCP 4.0 Upgrade ???
Organization: Reptilian Research, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:50:50 GMT

i am currently doing that software upgrade dance with NCR.

i hear that there is a WIN/TCP upgrade to 4.0 for the 3B2.

now, since we purchased our stuff directly from AT&T, NCR is confused as to
who our reseller is. ???

anyways, my NCR contact tells me his life would be alot easier if he had some
NCR part/library number for this upgrade.

please email jim@lsuc.on.ca

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From: R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: Sync-ing system clocks over StarLAN
Organization: CSU
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:06:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.112039.11076@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
 
>
>In article <168489264.R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu> R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:
>"     I was wondering if anyone out there has any ideas on how I
>"can easily sync my UNIX system clocks (4 3B2s 3 386WGS) via
>"StarLAN?
>
>(as root) remsh remote-machine date `date +%m%d%H%M%y`
>will do it, simply & crudely.  you could probably conjure up something
>using date +%S, expr, and sleep to improve it slightly.
>
>--
 
     That looks fine, except some of my machines don't have
remsh on them since I never bought WIN/TCP for them (SysV R3.1 and
R3.2).
 
    I don't trust UUX to do a good job.  Running StarLAN 3.2 if
that matters.
 
    Am I stuck with syncing machines with the wristwatch method?
 
    Thanks.
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From: thor@arrakis.denver.co.us (Robert B. Hood)
Subject: testing
Summary: looking for the lost feed
Reply-To: thor@arrakis.denver.co.us
Organization: Bob's Programming Paradise, Lakewood, CO, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:24:17 GMT

This is just a test message to test my news software.  I've been
without a feed now for nearly a month, and I'm trying to figure
out why.

If this message makes it to this newsgroup, please send me
email as a reply (kinda' like a message in a bottle, eh?).

Thanks for your understanding.  I miss me news feed, dammit.

Bob
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From: venenga@iscsvax.uni.edu (Jay Venenga - University of Northern Iowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Starting a shell script at machine boot
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:29:48 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

3B2 experts, I need some help.  

I am running a 3B2/500, System V R3.2.1, with Wollongong's 3.2 TCP/IP package. 
I have a shell script that I start by hand every time I reboot/start the system
with the command 'nohup monitor &'.  What I want to do is start this guy
automatically at startup.  I put it in /etc/rc3.d/S86win3b, but it does not
behave properly, in that the script puts output to a tty, and the ttys are not
reset until later in the startup process.  So, I tried putting the command 'at
now + 5 minutes ./startmon' in S86win3b (startmon had the nohup command as
its only line, and it was executable).  I saw the job in the at queue after the
machine came up, but when it was time for the job to start, the disk made some
noise, but no process was ever started, and no error messages produced.  My
question to you wizards are, how can I queue something to start from S86win3b. 
My script has no input from any keyboard.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

-jay

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From: jeff@IMD.Sterling.COM (Jeff Mosher)
Subject: NFS for a 3B2 SYSV R3.2.[23]
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:18:15 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: c1fbb653de735e9de192c7adec456b5b


This may be a FAQ, so forgive me (i.e. set your flame throwers to low).

Is NFS available for a 3B2 600G running SYS V R3.2.2 or 3.2.3 UNIX and
where can I get it if it is?

The 3B2 experts tell me that the 3B2 600G is really a 3B2/1000 model 80 if
that makes any difference...

A related question: Is NFS available for the 3B2 600GR (RISC based)
running SYSV R4?

Thanks in advance for ANY info you can provide me with.
Posting and/or EMAIL at the address below is fine.

Thanks!
Jeff
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From: dke@epx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: 3b1s for sale
Summary: 2 meg + 20 meg no cards
Keywords: 3b1 2 meg 20 meg drive
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:42:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

For sale:

pc-7300
2 meg ram
20 meg hard disk
no expansion cards
2 good fans instead of one unrelable one.

I'll preload just about any software you might like on it.

$375+shipping
offers considderred
I have a slug of them and 3 where enough for my own personal
use :)

-Dave
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From: friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen Friedl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att,u3b.tech
Subject: persistent NVRAM sanity problems on 3B2/600
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:03:51 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.att
Organization: Steve's Personal machine / Tustin, CA

Hi Folks,

     I have a customer with a 3B2/600, and they have been getting
the NVRAM sanity failures when they turn the machine on.  NCR has
replaced the battery several times but the message remains.  They
seem unwillinjg or unable to fix the problem, and my customer is
really getting tired of his clock being fast by ten years every
time he needs to shutdown for some reason.

     Anybody got any ideas on this one?

     Thanks,
     Stephen

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:28:31 EDT
From: <U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: The price of a 6300 machine (was Re: 6300 keyboards)
Distribution: na
 <1992Aug11.021729.3420@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> <92224.190642U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
 <1992Aug13.004247.2391@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>

In article <1992Aug13.004247.2391@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>, dwj@sactoh0.sac.ca.us
(Daniel W. James) says:
>
>In <92224.190642U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> <U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> writes:
>
>>specify the 6300 connector when you order from Northgate.  $200 is most
>>defnately not worth it, since I just bought an old 6300 for a friend for
>>only $180 complete.
>
>I would tend to agree.  Only $180 though...?  I agree they are old and
>pitiful machines by today's standards, but aren't they worth a little more
>than that?
>
>We are selling 2 of our old 6300's...  Anyone know what a fair asking price
>might be???  I'm not sure my boss would go for something that low (unless
>that is really all they are worth).  I would go for it, since I am going to
>be aquiring one of them though...
>
>Note that it's a standard 6300, mono with an st-225 20meg drive.
>--
The one I bought was the same machine, in beautiful shape (no burn-in on
screen, really clean, no scratches or dents, keyboard OK, etc) for only
$180 over the net - honest!  I think that any 8088 or 8086 machine can
only get $250 TOPS topday with the prices on all the high end systems so
low.  I think $180-200 is very fair for this machine.
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From: kevin@cfctech.cfc.com (Kevin Darcy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: NCR/AT&T Part Number for WIN/TCP 4.0 Upgrade ???
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:18:13 GMT
Organization: Chrysler Financial Corp., Southfield, MI

In article <784@pagesat.netsys.com> len@pagesat.netsys.com (Len Rose) writes:
>merce@xenitec.on.ca (Jim Mercer) writes:
>
>>i am currently doing that software upgrade dance with NCR.
>
>>i hear that there is a WIN/TCP upgrade to 4.0 for the 3B2.
>
>>now, since we purchased our stuff directly from AT&T, NCR is confused as to
>>who our reseller is. ???
>
>>anyways, my NCR contact tells me his life would be alot easier if he had some
>>NCR part/library number for this upgrade.
>
>>please email jim@lsuc.on.ca
>
> On another note, I was speaking with someone at Wollongong recently,
> (I needed NFS for the 3B2) , they said the last release of 3B2 Unix supported
> was 3.1 ... Now, I have to decide whether I wish to downgrade my 600's to 3.1
> just to get NFS ... It would be nice if alot of us could get together, much
> like the 3B1 people have, and start our own development teams. Porting NFS
> to 3.2 would be a nice project to begin with. Perhaps we could actually take
> this somewhere. 

Whoa, hold on there, Len, I'm sure what they meant was that the last release
of *TCP/IP* supported was 3.1, not the last release of the OS itself. My docs
on 3B2 NFS list SysVr3.2 as a _requirement_, so don't go downgrading your
boxes just yet. We even have NFS installed on one of our 3B2/600's running
SysVr3.2.3, but I couldn't tell you for sure if it actually works, since that 
particular machine is currently not hooked up to the network...

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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: query: lpr for the 3B2?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:44:23 GMT

In <1992Aug12.183151.27474@rtsg.mot.com> gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik) writes:
>In article <1684173C4.R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu> R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu writes:
>>    A while back I saw some postings come across that said something
>>about lpr that someone had written for the 3B2.  Does such a beast
>>exist?  If so, how does one aquire it?
>>    I am working with the keepers of this site's IBM mainframe
>>and am trying to resolve some printing problems.  Their system
>>programmer tells me life would be wonderful if my TCP/IP
>>implementaion had lpr.  Wollengong 3.2 does not, ergo,
>>life is not wonderful.
>>    Can anyone tell me if life will soon be wonderful?  :~)
>Maybe, just maybe..
>Anyway, archie tells me that there are 3B2 binaries for lpr
>on stasi.bradley.edu, in the /pub directory.

There are also sources for (presumably) the same on bradley.bradley.edu
in /pub/Lprclient.  (presumably because I haven't asked the owner of
stasi for certain, but we did do that port).
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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: why no man command on 3B2/1000
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 15:25:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug6.145600.19913@wheaton.wheaton.edu> dougs@david.wheaton.edu (Doug Smith - SGA) writes:
>I'm a little new to the 3B2 and I'm wondering why this system has no man
>command or man pages.  Should it be here or doesn't AT&T include it?  Is
>it available somewhere?

If you do find the man pages, and want a better 'man' command, let
me know.  I hacked up one I found on the net to be much
more like the 'man' command on SunOS.

-greg

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From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: Anyone out there have PERL compiled for the 3B2?
Keywords: perl latest version
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:30:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.222043.4152@kopachuk.uucp> dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman) writes:

>If anyone knows where this can be had, please post it so we'll all
>know.  I tried compiling what was the newest version last year and
>finally gave up since we have it on another system and I didn't "need"
>it on the 3B2's.  Mr. Wall, what do you have against the 3B2? :-)

I don't think he has anything specifically against the 3b2, but perhaps
he does have a grudge against people who build stupid, arbitrary,
hard-coded limits into their programs (like the stock 3b2 compiler).

Perl 3.0, patchlevel 18 was the last version that would compile
without getting a "switch table overflow" on the 3b2-300/400. I've
been told that the compiler for the 600 will handle it and that there
used to be some way to get a copy of the compiler with a larger
switch table, but I never bothered - I'd rather switch than fight
and 486's are real cheap these days.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
From: dwj@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Daniel W. James)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.att
Subject: Re: Need help with hard disks in 6300/6300+
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:49:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

In <9208101726.AA19468@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Stephen B. Brown <sbbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:


>      On a related note, is it possible to put a 1.2M floppy drive into
>the 6300? The service manual identifies a switch on the mother board
>for 48TPI/96TPI floppy drives, but it calls the 96TPI drive a "640K
>floppy". Does the 6300 BIOS support the 96 TPI drives in something
>other than a 1.2M configuration?

The last time NCR was out here, I asked the tech if that was possible and
he said it wasn't.  I can't remember his exact reasoning, but I beleive it
did have something to do with the BIOS.
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From: mike@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (michael pilman)
Subject: Help compiling Gopher server on AT&T UNIX sysV386
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:01:49 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-751]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu

I am interested in hearing from anyone who has compiled a 
gopher server on a machine with the following configuration
or one similar.

386 AT&T UNIX sysV386 r3.2.3 w/ ANSI C SysV from AT&T.

Any input would be appreciated.  Please E-mail to me as I 
am cross posting and may not get back to this group soon.

Mike Pilman                       |  mike@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
Facilities Administrator          |
Computing Services                |
Tulane University                 |
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From: R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Starlan Problems rear their heads again
Organization: CSU
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:06:18 GMT

       Greetings!
 
       Once again my starlan network is giving me problems...
 
The backround:  3B2/500, UNIX 3.2.1, StarGROUP 3.2, WIN/TCP 3.2
 
The original problem was when telneting, (or ftp-ing, or cu-ing, or
mailing) to another 3B2 across campus the StarLAN listener
shrivels up and dies.  Some on the net suggested checking with
crash to make sure I'm not running out of streams - I'm not.  NCR
wanted me to bump up the tunables a little - I did.
Les Mikesell described a similiar problem and his work-around:
check the /usr/net/nls/starlan/log for "FAILED" - then killing
and restarting the listen process.
 
    The newest twist is the listener refuses to restart.
When I attempt nlsadmin -s startlan the following shows up in
the log:
    ...15881; @(#)listen:listen.c    1.19.4.7
    ...15881; Using data base file: /usr/net/nls/starlan/dbf
    ...15881; attempted to bind address 
    ...15881; actually bound address 
  010490000000000000080001030113CFE01
    ...15881; TLI bound to a different name than requested
    ...15881; *** listener terminating!!! ***
 
    So, something got corrupted,  any one have any idea what?
how to fix it?  or better, prevent it from happening?
 
     Shutting down and restarting the network cleans thing up
so there is a possible solution - it is a pain to bring everything
down then restart in the middle of the day.  I'd rather not
have to disrupt the users that have already established links
and mess up RFS by killing StarLAN.
 
 
   Oh, nlsadmin -i says things are alraedy initalized, if that
helps.
 
    Thanks!
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From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: 3B2 SCSI Equipment for sale
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:46:20 GMT
Keywords: 3b2 scsi esdi dcm4e

In article <10953@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu> bill@platypus.uofs.edu writes:
"					     Do all 3B2's have a SCSI
"interface or is that another add on feature??  I thought it used MFM
"type disks, but if it is already SCSI, then there is no reason why I
"couldn't up my disk storage now.

3b2/300-310-400s are mfm on the motherboard; all the later ones are
scsi on the i/o bus.  (btw, one can fit 6 half-height drives [st2502]
internally on a 600 with a little work...)

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