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From: kskapin@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Keith T Skapinski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: IBM tries to weasle out of upgrade offer!
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:53:12 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook


My brother owns OS/2 1.x and finally decided to take advantage of IBM's
generous free upgrade offer after seeing OS/2 2.0 running on my machine.

He phoned them in late August / early September to request the free upgrade.
They informed him that they would send him a form and that he should fill
it out, enclose his license agreement from his version, and he would get 2.0.
Finally, in the last week of September (the offer ended September 30,1992) he
received an envelope from IBM with a letter stating to fill out the enclosed
form and return it by Sept 30. However, there was no form in the envelope -
just the letter. (OK, accidents happen - someone screwed up at IBM.)

He called IBM, explained the situation. The person he spoke with cheerfully
laughed and said they would send out a new form. My brother then suggested
that because of their (IBM's) oversight, there would be no way he would be
able to get the new form, and send it back by Sept 30, and asked if that
would be OK since IBM obviously made the error. The person he spoke with
wasn't very knowledgeable and said that she didn't know if they could do that.

My brother decided to have IBM fax the form rather than take any chances.
Once he got access to a fax machine (later that day), IBM faxed the form.
He filled it out, and mailed it the next day. However, it got there past
Sept 30. Therefore, IBM said they would not give him the update. (They
sent a letter stating this which he just received the other day)

My brother called IBM, explained the situation and was briely told too bad.
Upon persueing the issue, he was told that someone else would call back and
talk to him. No one did.

Now my brother is filing a comlaint against IBM with the State Department
of Consumer Affairs.

Anyway, I just thought I would share this horror story with you all and see
if I would get any responce from anyone else who was victimized by IBM.

As for me however, I am an avid user of OS/2 2.0 without the CSD. I'm happy.
I love downloading at 14.4K, formatting disks, and playing games all at the
same time. But I do think what IBM did is very wrong and seems very
deliberate to me.

- Keith (kskapin@ic.sunysb.edu)
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with OS/2 2.0 w/SP
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:16:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <mortenk.69.721339314@dhhalden.no> mortenk@dhhalden.no (MORTEN KNUDSEN) writes:
>
>-Word for Windows 2.0 will ask me to insert a diskette with two files called
> OLE-something (don't remember). It will do this every time, and copy them 
> over the old ones. It will not list any fonts, other than the default, in 
> the font-listbox, and no font sizes.

These files are compressed in the \DLL directory of your first WinWord
disk.  uncompress them (using the DECOMP.EXE program from the WinWord
disk) and place them somewhere on your DOS path or in your WIN-OS2
directory.  They originally were placed in the WIN-OS2 directory and
may have been trashed by the CSD.

As for fonts, whenever the printer driver changes, you must tell
WinWord that.  Go to File->Printer Setup, pick your printer and click
OK.  You should then have your font list.

>Service pack seems to have made my system much more stable. The GA 
>version felt more like a late beta. Winos2 graphics seems only slitly slower 
>than Windoze 3.1, although Microsoft's generic 800x600x16 drivers are _very_ 
>fast. 

You can use Windows screen drivers with WIN-OS2 if you want.  Note
that these will only affect full-screen WIN-OS2 sessions.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Sun,  8 Nov 92 20:48:00 -0800
From: Boulton_Fernando@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: A few questions
Comment-To: Chris_Shaw@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Boulton_Fernando@f514.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/514

 > I am in the process of upgrading my struggling 8086 to a shiny new
486 and  
 > am considering the benefits of OS/2 2.0. I have a couple of queries
which  
 > I wonder if anyone can answer.  
 >   
 > - Does it now support TrueType fonts in Windows 3.1 apps?  
 
Winos2 3.1 is currently in Beta and it has full support for True Type 

Fonts 
 
 > - What multimedia support does it have? Will Windows 3.1 sound card

 >   drivers work with it or does it come with its own drivers? 
 
You have all that you have in Windows 3.1 in Winos2 3.1, to the best 
of my knowledge all the drivers that worked with Windows will work 
with Winos2 3.1.  I currently use the Soundblaster Pro and it works 
fine. 
 
 > - When OS/2 has been booted from a floppy, can it access and run
DOS
 
 >   software in the HPFS partition?  
 
Booting OS/2 from a floppy takes a long time but it gives access to  
HPFS partition. Even if you do you will not be able to run DOS 
programs.  On the other hand you can boot DOS from a floppy but you  
will not be able to access HPFS partition 
 
  
 > --- rfmail 0..  
 >  * Origin: Orphan Board West  fido <-> unix gateway (1:202/723) 
 
 
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 X KWQ/2 1.0C X 

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 * Origin: OS/2 Connection @ La Jolla, CA  <619-558-9475> (1:202/514)
From: me90plb@brunel.ac.uk (Paul L Barnfather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Mouse drag locks OS/2 -why ?
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:59:51 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

First off - I think the CSD is great BUT read on...

If I've got a number of apps running (including seamless windows), with
swapfile at around 10MB (on 8MB system), and I go and grag a file object onto
a program object, the following happens (about 50% of the time):

Mouse pointer disappears
Keyboard locks
All programs freeze
Desktop freezes 

This needs a *COLD* reboot to clear. It happens during the drag - I don't get
as far as 'dropping' the file object.

This only started after I installed the CSD. Its extremely annoying - I've
started 'avoiding' doing drag & drop and use File.. Load... instead.

Anybody got any ideas as to what's wrong. Usually I find OS/2 pretty stable.
This is the sort of daft, repeatable crash that I used to *hate* with windows...

Paul
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: paul@tct.com (Paul Levin)
Subject: Re: Copy OS/2 from one HD to an other.
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:07:27 GMT

According to gagnon@aix1.uottawa.ca (7183):
>Hi,
>   Has anybody tried this before. Soon we will be installing OS/2 2.0 on many
>PC's. If I can install it on one, and the do an "XCOPY" of all the files
>from one HD to an other, that would save dozens of hours.
>   What I want to do, is install OS/2 on a PC, configure it plain Jane and 
>the install the hard disk from an other PC as a second disk and copy OS/2
>to it. After that, I can just put the disk back in the other PC and have
>two OS/2's installed after 2 hours instead of 4! Wouldn't it be great!?
>

I do not think you can do this.  If you do the copy under OS/2, it will
not copy files that are open, like the desktop.  If you do the copy
under DOS (assuming your only using FAT and not HPFS) they you won't get
some of the hidden or system files, not to mention the boot sector.
It "only" took me 40 minutes to install OS/2.0.  If you do several machines
in parallel, it shouldn't be too bad.
-- 
From:  Paul Levin   paul@count.tct.com   813-532-2239 (work, 9-5 EST)
    --> Jesus loves you, and died for you; thank Him today. <--
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is there a way to reinstall _just_ WINOS2?
Date: 14 Nov 92 00:59:17 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Nov13.050824.12632@news.Hawaii.Edu> low@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Hock-leong Low) writes:
>Is there a way just to reinstall JUST WINOS/2?--I'm having
>some problems running it.

You can do so using Selective Install (OS/2 System -> System Setup).
Make sure you reapply the Service Pak if necessary.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Subject: Re: Any Earthly Reason I SHould Use Os/2 NOW? 
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:11:29 GMT

In article <721229605snx@sugs.tware.com> landis@sugs.tware.com (Hale Landis) writes:
>Gee, sorry to hear you are having so much trouble.  In fairness,
>here is a message from the other side of OS/2 life...

[... great experience with OS/2! ...]

>I know there are others out there with similar stories to tell --
>I know some of them!
>
>Hale Landis                              Ph 408-423-4017
>landis@sugs.tware.com -or- hale_landis@notes.seagate.com

Hi Hale!

I have a similar story to yours.  I am very pleased with OS/2 2.0.x!
Now let me share my story with interested readers (if any)...

To all interested readers (if any):

I installed GA on my system with absolutely no problems.  Except for
the lack of SVGA drivers for my WD90C31, I have had no problems running
GA except when I got some trap when I changed some settings in my
CONFIG.SYS to svga instead of vga.  This happened because OS/2 (released
in March) did not recognize Western Ditigal SVGA adapters with 1MB
(released in the summer).  All I needed was to ftp one replacement file
from ftp-os2 and all was well (except for the lack of SVGA drivers).
I had been running 99.4% pure GA until I got the SP.

I did not have any problems installing the SP (except for the lack
of SVGA drivers).  I have had only three small "buglets" with the
SP (REXX does not recognize some commands like SysCls, Alt-Home does
not switch to Windowed DOS sometimes, and I had to reboot GA floppies
to restore some EAs).  Other than this (and the lack of SVGA drivers),
I have found the SP to be excellent.

Loading Win-OS/2 is *much* faster than before.  The speed of scrolling
in a Windowed session is faster than GA so now I don't use Full Screen
Sessions too much anymore.  I like the new Windowed VIO session fonts
a lot.  The SP is one fast mother forker...

I've never had problems with black icons, bad diskettes, slow scrolling,
mysterious crashes or whatever, with either GA or GA+SP.  If you go to a
hospital, you will only see sick people stay there.  Healthy people don't
need to stay at a hospital.  It is incorrect to assume that all people
are sick just because everyone staying at a hospital is sick.  In the same
way, it is incorrect to assume that all people are having problems with
OS/2 just because you read about some OS/2 problems in an "OS/2 hospital".
This newsgroup (comp.os.os2.misc) is an OS/2 hospital.

=================
Mike (OS/2) Levis
mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu
mlevis@lonestar.utsa.edu

disclaimer:  "buglet" is an unregistered trademark of the Great TFS.
disclaimer:  "Great TFS" is an unregistered trademark of Timothy F. Sipples.
disclaimer:  I'm an unoffical spokesmodel for OS/2, Microsoft and IBM.
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From: zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Service Pack Results/Questions
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:49:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

>The display looks wonderful (except the fonts used on the tabs
>in the settings menu... they remind me too much of my cga days...)  In
>general my initial impression of the sp is very good.... however, now
>to some of the bad points...

The display looks bad because you misinstalled it.  Keep on reading.

>i couldn't not figure out how to use the new tseng drivers
>until i finally decided to read comp.os.os2.misc for help... (thanks Mr. 
>Charlap).  One would assume that by going into the selective install, one
>would be able to install the new drivers... (that's where i wonder around
>for hte longest time...)

Unfortunately, Mr. Charlap has been promulgating incorrect information on
comp.os.os2.misc.  As Alok Dhir first reported....

DO NOT USE DPINSTL.EXE TO INSTALL THE ET4000 DRIVERS!!!

I hate to scream like this, but this misinformation is being perpetuated.
Use the selective install and do exactly what it tells you to do -- eventually,
it will get you to the Service Pack's driver diskettes.  If you don't install
it correctly, parts of your display will look shitty and your system will
be unstable because you are missing important parts of the video output
system (like fonts).


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jhlee@rose.handy.co.kr (Lee Joo Hee)
Subject: What's wrong with my CSD?
Organization: HandySoft Institute of Technology, HandySoft Corp.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 18:37:42 GMT

	Hi, there.
I have a some problem with my CSD I ftp'ed from software.watson.ibm.com.
I installed CSD well untill I put 11th diskette but when install program
asks for 12th disk I put it into my disk driver. Install program reads
well but it generates an error related with "A:FIX\OS2\PRODUCT.EXE" and
it displays only log message. When I reboot my computer, OS/2 doesn't seem
to work correctly.
	Is there any solution?
	Any help will be appreciated.
	Thanks in advance
	jhlee@rose.handy.co.kr
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Installing OS/2
Date: 14 Nov 92 00:39:16 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <8f0jaKa00Vp00C0VgT@andrew.cmu.edu> tt17+@andrew.cmu.edu (Trevor Tompkins) writes:
>I am about to install OS/2 on my computer, but wonder about two ways of
>doing this.  
>Since some people have had some problems installing OS/2 with existing
>software on the machine, I wonder if I should back up my Hard drive,
>reformat it, install OS/2 on the empty machine, then restore the DOS
>programs in a DOS session of OS/2.

A possible alternative.  I assume you are talking about using DOS's
BACKUP.

>install OS/2 with the DOS software already on there and fix any problems
>as they arrive.  
>I would like to use the OS/2 file system exclusively, but am afraid to
>choose that option if I use the second method.

You will not be able to use HPFS without reformatting.  HPFS is
awfully nice to have, in my opinion.

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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague)
Subject: Strange Problem with ESDI and SCSI Drives Co-Resident 
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 02:59:53 GMT

I have an UltraStor 12F ESDI controller with a Toshiba ESDI drive attached
as my primary drive (C: and E: partitions; C is DOS FAT and E is OS/2
HPFS). My secondary drive is a Toshiba SCSI-2 drive attached to a Future
Domain 1680 SCSI controller (with a CD-ROM as well). I have an odd
problem which I have noticed recently since I got my SCSI controller
and drives.

When I copy a LARGE number of files (>100 MB is common) from the ESDI
drive to the SCSI drive using xcopy (directory, subdirectories and
files) the copy operation will often hang. By this I mean the copy will
simply stop. I am unable to ^c out of xcopy and if I try to shutdown
the window will not die - I have to do a hard reset.

Now the wierd part - If I open another os/2 window I can still access
all the partitions on both ESDI and SCSI drives, even while the other
window is dead with an xcopy in process!

Further, if I begin another xcopy which involves the original partitions
(for example from SCSI back to ESDI) the first xcopy will eventually
come back to life and continue as though nothing ever happened!!!
So far as I know, if I do not start another operation on the ESDI drive
the first xcopy will stay dead forever.

Does anybody have any ideas? I am running OS/2 beta on a 486/33 clone
with 20MB of memory. I initially thought the bus speed (~11) MHz might
have been too fast so I reduced it to about 8 MHZ. The problem persists.

Could it be the ST506 driver? The SCSI (FD16-700.add) driver?

Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

Keith Teague
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Service pack with 2nd monochrome
From: mgjones@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu (Mike Jones)
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:24:00 -0500
Distribution: world
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Andreas Kaiser (ak@ananke.stgt.sub.org) wrote:
[...]
: I had to restore the backup, remove the 2nd video setup (hrmmpf - why
: does the selective install require a dozen disks just to remove a
: driver from CONFIG.SYS?) and rerun the service pack update.
: 
: 		Gruss, Andreas

You can solve this problem by editing your config.sys and taking the drivers
out yourself.  They show up in 2 locations in your config.sys.  Look for
drivers ending in MPA (monochrome/printer adapter I would assume).  I'm not
sure if it's the same on everyones.

I didn't want to have to reinstall from scratch (after all, I run a BBS and
didn't want to keep my system down for too long), so I found that doing the 
above worked great.

Well, now that it's finally installed, everything looks great! (so far....:)
---
Mike "Felix" Jones
mgjones@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu 

              "There are three kinds of lies:  Lies, damned lies,
               and benchmarks." - adapted from Benjamin Disraeli
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: HELP **FatalExit code 0x0401**
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:52:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.083819.27036@donau.et.tudelft.nl> anto@donau.et.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto) writes:
> 
> Well, you can migrate Win applications if they behave funny, but you can't
> migrate WinOS2, can you?
> 
> Can somebody help me, please? I can't start Windows and all Windows
> applications. 

I have had this problem when I have had incompatible video modes. Have you
been mucjing around with the video drivers? Is the win.ini "broken" because
the video drivers are either wrong or inapropriate?
 
Also....if you want to "migrate" Win-OS2 to the WPS, just migrate the
progman.exe file. When run, it creates what is - in effect - an alternate
Windows desktop running seamless on your WPS.
 
Steve
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withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | looks like we may get a more  
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Subject: Re: Using names instead of E: for drives
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:34:01 GMT

Jim Sanchez (jsanchez@halcyon.com) wrote:
: I came to the OS/2 world from the Amiga and am really surprised that I
: have to use primitive things like E: or F: to refer to volumes.  The
[stuff deleted]

You're right.  OS/2 inherited several VERY BAD things from DOS.
a)  The notion of the drive (ie. drive letters) as opposed to a homogeneous
    file system with drives grafted in whereever desired.
b)  The "8.3" filename limit.
c)  UPPER CASE FILENAMES.
d)  No concept of links (multiple filenames for a single data group).

All of these are filesystem problems.  Items b) and c) have been addressed
by HPFS, although items a) and d) were completely ignored.  Item b) is still
not really fixed by HPFS, as one must (basically) stick with the damn "8.3"
convention if one may ever use a floppy (eg for backup!).
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: 890560p@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trevor Porter)
Subject: Re: sbos2 problems
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:49:18 GMT

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>Since installing the SPP, I've found that the tracker.exe module
>player fails to operate.  I can copy VOC files to the port and use the
>Player.exe program to play them with no problem, but the tracker just
>fills the screen with the following error:

>	DosWrite failed to write all the bytes....

>I think this is a bug in emx 0.8e, but I'm not sure.

I get the same error message filling my screen too, and when I close the
session running tracker.exe from the Window list it actually starts playing
the module for about two seconds.  

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_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_                               Trevor Porter    	890560p@dragon.acadiau.ca                               Acadia University                                                               Wolfville, NS, Canada                                                           -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: OS2+VIO windows=110baud
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:41:49 GMT

ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET wrote:
> 
> On my system (33MHz 386 with _ET3000_ VGA) text scrolling in DOS windows
> IS FASTER than in full screen DOS 5.0 booted without OS/2.

That is _very_ interesting. It seems that OS/2's DOS support is pretty
slick (once you get the settings right). It's a pity that OS/2 windows are
still so slow - and there are no settings to play with.
> 

I have just run the Diagnostic program that came with my TSENG MEGA EVA/2
and it says it's using an 8 bit data bus. It's a 16 bit card in a 486 ISA
machine. The manual says it should automatically detect the BUS size it is
running on and there is no jumper override on the card.

I suspect that this is causing my awful scrolling (although I still don't
understand why OS/2 is so much slower than DOS in a window).

Anybody got any ideas about getting my card to 16 bit mode. It locks up my
machine tight when I try run the DMODE program [All this in natvie DOS 5.0]

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lowey@jester.usask.ca (Kevin Lowey)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Monthly planner problem - SPP problem ?
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:43:30 GMT

Steve Madden (smadden@titan.trl.OZ.AU) wrote:

: 	 I'm wondering if anyone out there has had the same problem I'm
: getting with the OS/2 applet, Monthly planner. What happens is that all
: my afternoon entries are being displayed in the morning. Note that the

I have this problem as well.  It existed in the GA version as well, so don't
blame the Service Pack #8-)  It didn't exist in the December beta before the
GA version was released.

- Kevin Lowey (Lowey@Sask.USask.CA)
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