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From: db_admin@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Senna + Wiliams: NOT
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:01:17 EST

In article <YecZlz70Bwx_0EjuA9@transarc.com>, Dino_P._Chiesa@transarc.com writes:
> 
> 
> Obi writes of Mr. Senna:
>> He then went on to say, "I could stay with McLaren, but as I beleive that 
>> Williams will again have the most competitive car next season, I woud say that
>> it is most likely that ****I would stay at home next season****".
>> 
> 
> lms@rle-vlsi.mit.edu (Luis Miguel Silveira) writes:
>> I find this decision rather deplorable.  Ayrton Senna is a
>> *professional* driver.  A professional driver's _job_ is not to win.
>> Instead his job is to drive for a team, develop a car, help the
>> designers, the mechanics, etc, with his hints and his experience, his
>> feelings and his opinions.  If he wins, great, otherwise, at least he
>> must try his best.
>  
> 
> And then, Gilberto disagrees with that.
> 
> I agree with Luis, on this one.  It shows a poor attitude if a driver
> says, "If I don't get the best car, then I won't play..."  Though, we
> certainly shouldn't be surprised at this sort of attitude coming from
> the superstar drivers of F1.
> 
> As I recall, a similar position was taken by Mr. Prost for '92.  He
> considered driving, but in the end, did not, because he did not
> believe there was an available car+team which would meet his
> standards.
> 
> So, we don't have to like it, in either case, but the drivers don't
> care what we think, do they?
> 
> ---------------------
> 
> I would have liked to see Prost campaign a Ligier in '92; I would
> be interested to see Senna compete in '93, regardless of the car.
> 
> 
> -dpc

Is Senna related to Rahal?

					Michael

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From: timp@techmpc.csg.gss.mot.com (Tim Palka)
Subject: Re: Cheap open wheel racing
Organization: Motorola Cellular Subscriber Group MIS
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:11:36 GMT

In article <3380039@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>As an SCCA flagger since 1984 I've worked events where karting was on the
>ticket.  I have seen horrible incidents involving Karting.  We are talking
>serious injury here.  It may be a thrill, but you are taking a big chance.
>
>F440 cars are fairly quick but the ride sucks.  A lot of drivers I know need
>to wear special restraints (similar to the kind worn by people using jack
>hammers) to keep the internal organs from flying about.  
>

I Race Formula 440 and agree about the quickness( they are ALOT quicker then
FV) but the part about the ride is quite inacurate. The old style chassis
(pre 1984/85) were a bit rough but the new chassis are actualy quite nice.

>For my $ I'd take Formula Vee.  Its a bigger market than F440 with a lot
>more competitors.  As such, there are usually a lot of used cars available
>at a reasonable price.  There are also some newer body designs that are
>quite attractive.
>

Again I agree that the market is bigger(for now anyway). but F440 is the next
up and comer class in SCCA (IMHO). As for Price you cant beat the price per
run and maint quotient of a F440.

>************************************************
>* Donald Boell - Hewlett Packard               *
>*                                              *
>* When you're chewing on life's gristle        *
>* Don't grumble, give a whistle - Monty Python *
>*                                 Life of Brian*
>************************************************
>
>

timp-----
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From: scolucci@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: A Funny Ole F1 World..........
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:55:34 GMT

Hi folks!
We don't get much humour on r.a.s, but now that the '92 f! season has been sewn
up by Mansell et al, I think it's high time that I shared with all my brother
and sister netters a small portion of a humourous out-take of F1 that the now
defunct Punch magazine did around ths time LAST YEAR. Featured were the
"profiles" of last seasons drivers. Here are some:

AYRTON SENNA
Nationality: Brazilian
Racing No.: 1
Team: Marlboro McLaren Honda
Wages: $15m (and counting)
Lives: Monaco and Sao Paolo
Aircraft: HS125-900 (yours for st8m) flown by two ex-Varig 747 pilots
Road car: Mercredes-Benz 500, Honda Legend
Hobbies: Flying model aircraft, getting hurt while jet-skiing
Distinguishing Characteristics: Wins races
Walkerism: "the brilliant Brazilian"
Huntquote: "Well, Murray, I don't understand Sennas tyre choice"
Worth Remembering: Has seen the face of God while racing

GERHARD BERGER
Nationality: Austrian
Racing No.: 2
Team: Marlboro McLaren Honda
Lives: Monaco and Worgl, Austria
Wages: $6m
Aircraft: Chartered Falcon200
Road Car: Mercedes-Benz 500
Hobbies: Runs a trucking co.
Distinguising Characteristic: Not as fast as Senna
Walkerism: "The unlucky Austrian"
Huntquote: "Quite frankly, Murray, I don't understand Bergers tyre choice
Worth Remembering: Not as fast as Senna

NIGEL MANSELL
Nationality: British
Racing No.: 5
Team: Canon Williams Renault
Lives: Isle of Man, Algarve, and next to Greg Norman on a golf course in
Florida
Wages: $12m
Aircraft: Citation5
Road Car: A range of Ferraris, plus a Renault 25 (well, somebody has to drive
one)
Hobbies: Being a special constable on the Isle of Man, being in the tabloid
press
Distinguishing Characteristic: Wears a flat cap, likes to play golf.
Walkerism: "Poor Mansell walks back to the pits again"
Huntquote: "Actually, Murray, I must say that I didn't understand Nigels tyre
choice. Not at all."
Worth Remembering: Not related to five times world champion Juan-Mansell
Fangio. In his home he proudly displays an eight-foot statue of his wife.

J. J. LEHTO
Nationality: Finnish
Racing No.: 22
Team: Scuderia Italia
Lives: Monaco
Wages: Mmmmm
Aircraft: Mmmm...er no
Road Car: Owns a Harley Davidson, which is bigger than some cars
Hobbies: Running, training
Distingushing Characteristic: Parents hated him. They must do- why else
christen your child Jyrki Jarvilehto
Walkerim: "That's J. J. Lehto, or as he used to be called, yer...yerk... 
...yerkivvi...yerviANDMANSELLCOMESINTOTHEPITS!"
Huntquote: "I must say, Murray, Lehto's tyre choice...it's completely baffling"
Worth Remembering: Try say it slowly - 'Yer-ki-yar-vi-lay-toe'


Again I emphasise that these are last years profiles. I think you'll agree that
J. J. Lehto's is particularily chuckle-inducing. I'll post some more if enough
of you are interested, but why don't we draw up an up-to-date list following
the same spirit? Just an idea!

Cheers, Serge

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From: kevinc@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (kevin.j.coulter)
Subject: Re: PAYTON'S PLACE 
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:29:38 GMT

In article <q6cnqgp@lynx.unm.edu> canders@lacerta.unm.edu (Cliff Anderson CIRT) writes:
>There was a recent article in the local news paper that noted  Walter Payton's
>auto racing career is on the up stroke.  Does anybody out there know how good
>he really is and, how long will it be before we see him behind the wheel at
>INDY or DAYTONA?

I have seen walter at both desmoines and road america this year. Its
safe to say he's bought the best equipment. All thats lacking is some
help in the drivers compartment. While I'm not saying he's bad, lets
just say its a good thing he made his money in football. While he
finished 10th and desmoines, and I think 8th at road america, it was due
to attrition, not fabulous driving. At road america, he was gridded 16th
I believe. 

To put it another way, Rick Dittman, a local independent, made ONE hot
lap during qualifying and started 12th. This is with an older car that
was having motor problems that eventually caused his demise after 3 laps
in the race. BTW: When rick dropped out, he was running 10th. Walter
hadn't moved up yet.

Lets see, Walter beat dittman, both archers, greg pickett.. those 4 all
started ahead of him, but DNF'd (those are 4 top guns that Walter
"beat").

Walter at Indy or Daytona? Maybe in the 24 hours on a GTS/GTU car, but
thats it. ...

				Kevin
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:30:59 EDT
From: Jonathan Swaby <JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: IMSA (Jaguar)

IMSA is not as bad as SCCA. Look what they did to Trans-Am and Can-Am.
They destroyed both series. Both IMSA and SCCA screwed Audi. I am not
really sure why Nissan was so successful. Maybe it was because they sponsored
some of the races. Maybe Jag needs to become a series sponsor in order to
win.

Jonathan Swaby

P.S. I love Group 44. They ran the original IMSA GTP Jag and the also
     ran Audis cars.
From: tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Rally of the Thousands Lakes after 10/37 special stages
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:42:24 +0300
Organization: City of Tampere

In article <1992Aug28.142508.1544@tac.fi>, tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen) writes:
> In article <1992Aug28.084554.1540@tac.fi>, tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen) writes:
THE RALLY OF THE THOUSANDS LAKES (JYVASKYLAN SUURAJOT)
======================================================

Results after 10/37 special stages (Friday 28th August)
=======================================================
1. Didier Auriol, Fra      Lancia    1.10.55
2. Juha Kankkunen, Fin     Lancia      -0.18  
3. Markku Alen, Fin        Toyota    I MISSED THE REST, BECAUSE 
4. Ari Vatanen, Fin        Subaru    OF THE PHONE CALL :-( 
5. Stig Blomqvist, Swe     Nissan
6. Francois Delecour, Fra  Ford        
7. Massimo Biasion, Ita    Ford        

Group N
1. Jarmo Kytolehto, Fin    Mitsubishi
2. Stig-Olof Walfridsson                -0.28
3. Mikael Sundstrom, Fin   Nissan       -0.52
4. Kari Kivenne, Fin                    -1.18

Colin McRae drove away from the road in the SS 8, but he continues.
Tommi Makinen drove away in the SS 10 and discontinued.
Marcus Gronholm discontinued.

-- 
---
Kimmo Kauranen  *  Department of Information Technology
                *  City of Tampere, FINLAND
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: I had a (F1) dream...
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:14:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep3.110118.26740@mic.ucla.edu> brims@bnkl01.astro.ucla.edu (George Brims) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.154928.18072@fang.att.com> agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92)) writes:
>>shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>>>I had a Formula 1 dream...and it DIDn't include:-
>>>it was wonderful. 
>>
>>Me too! And the cars were painted in national colours.
>>-- 
>>Grayson Walker         
>
>The usual American fascination with nationalism is creeping in here.
>Do you really think Senna is racng for Brazil or Mansell for Britain?

So, there is no nationalism in Mansell's statements that he wants to
see an all-British podium this year?

alan
From: CWL103@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: NASCAR Schedule.......
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:23:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92248.132313CWL103
Organization: Penn State University

I remember last year someone had posted the NASCAR schedule with the
dates and what time they where on.  I have a schedule but I need to know
if anyone has the channels and times these will be aired.  Any help
would be much appreciated, thanks in advance.....
    Please E-Mail it to me if you can......
              CWL103@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
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From: miller@convex.com (Ken Miller)
Subject: Re: Bubba (NASCAR)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Billsburg, Va., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 13:21:59 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

	If you don't read the Winston Cup Scene, a couple issues back
	letters to the editor were blasting President Bush for many people
	missing the beginning of the Firecracker 400 at Daytona due to
	increased security. I'm sure those fans appreciated 'hearing' the
	beginning of the race.

	On to a racing question, has anyone heard how Davey Allison is 
	faring these days? Haven't seen much locally about his healing
	efforts after the Pocono tumble. This is 'his' weekend to possibly
	pick up the Winston Million.

	Ken  { see ya at R.I.R in about a week }
	miller@convex.com
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From: lallo@stsci.edu (Matthew D. Lallo,622,4577)
Subject: Re: F1 and Indy (Re: World or national ser
Reply-To: lallo@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:23:21 GMT

In article 8639@pixel.kodak.com, jaslow@bissun.kodak.com (Russell Jaslow) writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.170758.23621@stsci.edu> lallo@stsci.edu writes:
>>
>>Specifically I refer to the stories of certain beer sponsors not allowing a 
>>foreign accented driver to drive with their team

[stuff deleted]
>>
>>I find it hard to see how the international motorsports scene can be blamed
>>for the schism when this sort of thing is going on in the u.s.
>>
>This sort of thing going on in the U.S.?!  Like this never happens in Europe?
>Renault never insists on a French driver.  Italian sponsors never insist on
>an Italian driver.  Ferrari never leans towards a driver of their persuasion.
>Saudi Air never asked Frank Williams not to hire Jews.
>
>There, I'm calm now...
>-- 

Well I've been calm the whole time Russell, now if you'd just think back to my
argument, I'm saying that it may be perfectly sound business, I grant that BUT
then that means we cannot blame everyone else for our lack of international
participation if our own sponsors aren't interested.
O.K????
Follow that????
I just knew I was going to have to explain this.


Matt
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From: chuck@eos.ncsu.edu (Chuck Kesler)
Subject: Re: F1: some Belgian questions
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project EOS
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:40:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.191710.773@hubcap.clemson.edu> csroach@eng.clemson.edu (Shane Roach) writes:
>From article <1992Sep1.164113.16615@ncsu.edu>, by chuck@eos.ncsu.edu (Chuck Kesler):
>> 
>> There is a short blurb in the "Beyond the Pond" F1 recap in this month's 
>> RACER magazine that said something to the effect that the rule was changed
...
>Is that RACER #5 that you're referring to?  If so, when did you get it?  It's
>said in the back of issue #4 that #5 would be on the newsstands August 25, but
>I have yet to receive my copy, and the local newsstand just got in #4 last
>week.  The check for my subscription has cleared, so I know it isn't that.  
>Are there any others out there who haven't gotten #5 yet?  Thanks,

(I was going to reply to this privately, but decided to followup instead 
in case there are others out there that are in Shane's boat, er, 
monocoque :-))

This was indeed in RACER #5, the September 92 issue.  I got mine in the mail
the first or second week in August.  If you've just subscribed, you might
want to be prepared to wait.  I subscribed at the end of April, before issue
#2 came out, but I didn't get my first issue until June, and then it was
issue #3, not #2.  My check had also already cleared way before then, and 
I was just a day or so away from giving them a call to find out what kind
of black hole my money had been sucked into when that issue magically 
showed up in my mailbox.

Good magazine, but a little slow on the delivery.  Probably to be expected 
for such a fledgling publication.

-chuck-

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From: conrad@pico.OZ (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a used sporty car
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:44:10 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

: gmc@HELIX.NIH.GOV (Gordon M. Charrick) writes:
: : Hello everyone,
: : 
: : I'm starting to think about getting a used car to replace my current six
: : year old one. I want something sporty but it can't be a sports car per se
: : because my insurance company (Erie) won't cover sports cars and I do not
: : want to switch companies. Anyway, I've been thinking of getting a Toyota
No "sports cars"?  How do they define that? (One local company puts a
"sports car" mark up on Toyota Corolla "Seca"s)

Assuming you mean "sedans" - 

Try any of the homologation specials.  BMW-M cars(esp. m325i), Sierra
RS500, Holden HSV (there is one in the USA)  Nissan GTS Skylines, the
six-cylinder Celica (Supra).  
Or one of the rally jobs (Lancia, Toyota, Sierra)

Or, getting really small, the Pug 205GTi is a legend in its own lunch
time.

Personally, I'd recommend changing insurers, catch the train/bus to work
& get a real car for the weekends.  Like a Europa/X1-9/914/Mr2/MX5 &tc
&tc
--
"There's something stirring in my loins and it isn't the spirit of Jesus"
                - Helen Razor, JJJ announcer, 1992.

Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604
From: MJackson.Wbst147@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: David Letterman's top 10
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:08:49 GMT
Reply-To: MJackson.Wbst147@xerox.com

Received: by yngvi.wbst147 (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16421; Tue, 1 Sep 92 09:09:00 EDT
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY

In article 715331968@suite.sw.oz.au, pod@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul O'Donnell)
writes:

> I have a feeling I am about to embarrass myself here.....

To the contrary; ignorance of Robin Leach is considered a sign of refinement in
civilized circles.

> Who _is_ Robin Leach?

Unctous host of the odious American television program "Lifestyles of the Rich
and Famous" - except for their annual coverage of the Grand Prix of Monaco,
when the regular ABC announcers take over :-)

Mark <MJackson.Wbst147@Xerox.COM>
     Between 20 and 30 percent of the gross national product of the
     United States comes from high energy physics.
				- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)
From: raineyd@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Dan Rainey)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Clifford Allison's accident
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:16:14 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

Bob ,does the hoop connect to the seat,or do the belts connect to the hoop
behind the seat ? In my car the seat is attached to a mount to the roll cage
and the belts next to the seat mounts are also connected to the cage. the belts
are then looped with 1/4' steal cord  and secured with locking u bolts. Is the
hoop used the way I use the cord?
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith)
Subject: I had a (F1) dream...
Reply-To: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:35:11 +0000

...and it DIDn't include:-

Senna
Mansell
Prost
Ron Dennis
McLaren
Cigarettes
Frank Williams.


And do you know -

it was wonderful. I dreamt of Herbert and Hakkinen, of Berger and
Brundle, of Schumacher and Alesi, all racing reasonably equal cars
and ENJOYING themselves.


No mega-buck intrigues. No whingeing. No dodgy race tactics. Just
good engineering and hard racing.


sigh.

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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: CART - Highest Attrition?
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:28:17 GMT

In article <johnl.0744@amiganet.chi.il.us> johnl@amiganet.chi.il.us (John Liskey) writes:
>Anyone know off the top of their head what the 2 or 3 highest attrition races
>have been in CART history?
>
From the info I've got, it would take me awhiles to work backwards in
order to figure this out.  The CART Media Guide doesn't have a special
listing for attrition, per se.

One interesting fact that's easy to decipher:

The most races for IndyCars in one season is 1968, when they
ran a total of 28 races.  They were, in order:  Hanford, Las Vegas,
Phoenix, Trenton, Indy, Milwaukee, Mosport (2-100 mile races),
Langhorne, Pikes Peak (counted for points - and they should do it
again, imo!), Castle Rock, Nazereth, Indianapolis (2-100 mile events,
but I believe we're talking IRP here rather than the speedway),
Langhorne again (2-100 lappers), St. Jovite (2-100 milers), Springfield,
Milwaukee, DuQuoin, Indianapolis (100 miler), Trenton, Sacramento,
Michigan, Hanford, Phoenix and Riverside.  Oh the great days with a real
mix of great tracks, paved or dirt.

The IndyCar season with the fewest events is 1938, when they only ran
two races:  Indy (Floyd Roberts won) and Syracuse (Jimmy Snyder).
Good trivia question.

-c'ball-


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From: Mika.Paakko@lut.fi (Mika Paakko)
Subject: Herbert signed for...
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 06:01:49 GMT
Distribution: rec
Reply-To: Mika.Paakko@lut.fi
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland


...Lotus in 1993.
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From: Robert.Hartill@cm.cf.ac.uk (virtual user)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: James Hunt quote
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:29:26 GMT
Organization: Computing Maths (COMMA), UWCC, Wales, UK

Quote by James Hunt during the BBC commentry of the Belgian GP.

'The drivers can see that the rain is dry'

--
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    \______e-mail : rhl@cm.cf.ac.uk _________ Fax : +44 (0)222 666182_______/
	 I couldn't help it. I can resist everything except temptation.
				 -Oscar Wilde.
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: I had a (F1) dream...
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:30:53 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Alan F. Perry (esprit@netcom.com) wrote:
: 
: So, there is no nationalism in Mansell's statements that he wants to
: see an all-British podium this year?
: 
: alan

If we see an all-British podium it might well bring some British sponsorship
money into motorsports -- presumably NM wants a slice of this potentially
large cake...

cynically,
Pete
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From: naze@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Daniel J Naze)
Subject: Re: World or national series?  (was: Proposal: rec.autos.formula1)
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:30:39 GMT

  Penske cars are designed and built in Poole, Dorset, England, in Penskes
own factory.  The cars are designed by Nigel Bennett.
  Galmer Engineering is based in Bicester, Oxon, England, and designed by
Alan Mertons.
  Info is from RACECAR ENGINEERING.  A great mag!!!

 Dan Naze


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