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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Moving my /usr filesystem?
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:10:08 GMT
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Hello folks,
   I have added a 1GB external drive to my RS/6000 model 220.  Since the
/usr filesystem on my internal (400MB) drive is 99% used I am trying to
move it onto the larger disk drive.  I have been partially successful.
I created a filesystem on the new disk called /newusr.  I then used tar
to copy the files over to the new filesystem while preserving owner and
mode information.  I then used SMIT to rename the original /usr to /oldusr
and renamed the /newusr to /usr.  Reboot the system and all appears fine,
except that a df command now shows both the old /usr and the new /usr
and both have the size of the new one.  One is on logical volume
rootvg as /dev/hd2, while the other is on uservg1 as /dev/hdscsi0.
   I cannot remove /dev/hd2 because it won't let me close the filesystem.
I had thought to rename /dev/hdscsi0 to /dev/hd2 since that seems to be
a special device name to AIX, but until I can remove the old one I can't
rename the new one.
   Also, I use an NFS mount for the info database and the mount command
shows that mount as being the same size and characteristics as the new
filesystem.  Info does not work because it can't access the NFS mounted
files.  I'm sure this is related in some way, but I don't know what
it means. 
   Has anybody got a way to do this.  Any better suggestions?

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From: brent@lastthor (Brent Terry)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: driver status for tape devices
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:22:47 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1bk4uiINN146u@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>  
pfenning@risc3.mi.Uni-Koeln.DE (Joerg-Thomas Pfenning) writes:
> Can anybody enlight me how to access the information block
> 
> struct tape_device_df 
> 
> which is defined in sys/tapedd.h by looking at the kernel? I want
> to make a real time display like monitor for the tape operation.

That structure is internal to the tape device driver. You won't be able to
access that structure at all. 

The only way I know of to do what you want is to write your own tape
device driver that includes real time statistics. That of course is 
a major undertaking.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: csfed@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Frank E. Doss / Academic Computing)
Subject: Re: The alleged AIX /etc/bootpd
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:19:26 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <Oct13.174300.32536@cdsac.uucp> scotte@cdsac.uucp (L. Scott Emmons) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.211445.16065@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> csfed@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Frank E. Doss / Academic Computing) writes:
>>I am trying to use my RS/6Ks as bootp servers.  The man page suggests that
>>the driver should live in /etc.  However, I cannot find the little daemon.
>
>Here's the entry for bootpd on our system:
>
>$ ls l /etc/bootpd
>[trimmed for space]   16 Jul 30 00:37 /etc/bootpd@ > /usr/sbin/bootpd*
>
>
>$ ls l /usr/sbin/bootpd
>rwxrxrx   1 bin      bin        34833 Jul 29 23:17 /usr/sbin/bootpd*
>
>
>Are you just missing the symbolic link?
>
> 
>			   L. Scott Emmons

Following up my own query:

The AIX bootpd for 3.1.5 & 6 is an optional program product that may be
installed with X-Windows (or may not be.)  I guess IBM expected only
X-station clients to be using bootp.

I understand that IBM put bootpd in with the bos in 3.2, alleviating any
need to install extra software.

I have been told that I can restore the bootpd from .x_st_mgr.obj with a
simple restore request, as the file was created with a simple backup
command.  If my tape drive cooperates with me, I'll pull it off an upgrade
tape.  OW, I'll probably wait until I get 3.2.

Other people have suggested I try the CMU bootpd (which requires minor
patches for AIX).  If I get this before I get 3.2, I'll try it and post
here as to just how.

Thanks to all who responded.  Your assistance has helped me very much.

-Frank
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From: konopik@konopik.austin.ibm.com (Brad Konopik)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: How can I find out which model of RS/6000 am I logged on ??
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:25:33 GMT
Organization: IBM AIX Porting Center, Austin

In article <1992Oct8.153553.17908@ichips.intel.com> tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell~) writes:
>
>  Use the uname command. Here is a script to do it.
>
>    Cheers,
>
>    Tom McConnell
>
>#!/bin/csh -f
># This script determines the machine type for RS/6000's.

I found a few more models in Glen Chalemin's script:

case 11:  Model 540
case 37:  Model 340
case 38:  Model 350
case 41:  Model 220
case 63:  Model 970

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From: bgelbe@gwdu03.gwdg.de (Bodo Gelbe)
Subject: PS2/70 Token Ring Adapter on RS6000
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:54:51 GMT

Is it possible to use a Token Ring Adapter from a
PS/2 Model 70 PC on a RS6000?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: jrh@jrh.uucp (James R. Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Password hashing under 1.2.1
Organization: private system, Toronto, Ontario
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:57:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.020933.168200@zeus.calpoly.edu> ctuel@zeus.calpoly.edu (Cliff Tuel) writes:
>
>Does /bin/login on AIX 1.2.1 (either 386 or 370 flavors) use password
>hashing?  We've got a couple 370 VM sessions, and 12 PS/2's running
>386, in a TCF cluster.

   [ ... stuff deleted ... ]
>
>
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     AIX 1.2.1 login doesn't consult the passwd.dir and passwd.pag 
     files:

ls -ul /etc/pass*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1209 Oct 12 17:50 /etc/passwd  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     user         4096 Oct 12 11:00 /etc/passwd.dir  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1209 Oct 12 03:45 /etc/passwd.o  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1144 Oct 11 20:49 /etc/passwd.oo  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1148 Sep 20 11:52 /etc/passwd.ooo  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     user         6144 Oct 12 11:00 /etc/passwd.pag

[ log off and then log back in... ]

ls -ul /etc/pass*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1209 Oct 12 17:52 /etc/passwd  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     user         4096 Oct 12 11:00 /etc/passwd.dir  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1209 Oct 12 03:45 /etc/passwd.o  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1144 Oct 11 20:49 /etc/passwd.oo  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     system       1148 Sep 20 11:52 /etc/passwd.ooo  
-rw-r--r-- 1 root     user         6144 Oct 12 11:00 /etc/passwd.pag  

    Note that the access time of /etc/passwd has changed as a result of 
    the login but the access time of the passwd.dir and passwd.pag files
    hasn't changed.

                            --jrh

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From: VRBASS@ATLVMIC1.VNET.IBM.COM
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Moving my /usr filesystem?
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:24:08 GMT

ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes
> ... attempts to move a filesystem to a new disk deleted ...
>   Has anybody got a way to do this.  Any better suggestions?

The simplest way is to use the command "migratepv", which moves all
the parts of a filesystem from one disk to another.  If the whole
filesystem is on the source disk, the whole thing gets moved to the
target disk.

Sounds like you have screwed up your /etc/filesystems, resulting in
bogus reports from "df".  Go look at it and see if there aren't
redundant entries with the same device name.

From: Vance R. Bass       AIX Systems Specialist, IBM Technical Services
Internet: vrbass@atlvmic1.vnet.ibm.com            VNET: ATLVMIC1(VRBASS)
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: File size of 'tmp' files for 'vi'
Keywords: vi aix 
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:40:53 GMT


In article <1992Oct2.233442.26281@RedBrick.COM> mmt@RedBrick.COM
(Maxime Taksar) writes:
>
> In article <BvHuDJ.L5L@bssi.nl>, root@bssi.nl writes:
>>
>> When editing a file in 'vi' a temporary file is created in
>> the '/tmp'-directory. The name of this file is '/tmp/Ex0< PID vi >'.
>> The size of this file should be zero when no modifications are
>> done. However file isn't zero allways. For example: when editting a
>> small file ( 512 bytes ) a 'tmp' file is created of size 20480 !!!.
>> 
>> Does anyone is familiar with this problem and/or has a solution ?
>
> Is the 20480 size just what's listed from ls , or is it the
> actualy disk usage, as listed by du?

It is definitely *not* a sparse file.

I've been using `elvis' instead, but I should warn any potentially
interested people that it's not a very faithful reproduction.

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From: aroby@andersen.co.uk (Tony Roby)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Console output to a window?
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:51:55 GMT
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)

mfh@math.chalmers.se (Martin Hansson) writes:
>: Is there a way to redirect console output to a window whilst running X?
>: The C flag doesn't seem to work for xterm and I havn't seen anything for the
>: aixterm.

Use the swcons command.  We type :   swcons `tty`     from aixterm and it
works perfectly.

Tony
From: suzuki@loon.geog.ubc.ca (Natalie Suzuki)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Intrinsic Functions
Date: 14 Oct 1992 20:57:43 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: loon.geog.ubc.ca


I have a program that I'm trying to run on the RSC/6000.  It utilizes
a 'flush' function which I believe flushes the contents of the memory 
buffer to disk.  It appears that this function is an intrinsic function
on the system used to run the program previously, and not on the RSC/
6000.  I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has a program
which could carry out this same function on the RSC/6000.  Thanks in advance.

Natalie Suzuki
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Curses bug wrt scrolling subwindows
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:27:27 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


Curses appears to be "forgetting" to update the pointers in the parent
window (stdscr) when the subwindow (bottom) is scrolled.  This is a
bug.  If I'm feeling sufficiently masochistic, I might report it
tomorrow.

-----8<-----snip-----8<-----snip-----8<-----snip-----8<-----snip-----8<-----
#include <curses.h>

int
main (void)
{
  WINDOW *top, *bottom;

  initscr ();

  top = subwin (stdscr, 5, COLS, 0, 0);
  bottom = subwin (stdscr, LINES - 5, COLS, 5, 0);
  scrollok (bottom, 1);

  wmove (bottom, LINES - 6, 0);
  waddstr (bottom, "1\n 2\n  3\n   4\n    5\n     6\n      7");

  delwin (top);
  delwin (bottom);

  wrefresh (stdscr);
  endwin ();
}
-----8<-----snip-----8<-----snip-----8<-----snip-----8<-----snip-----8<-----

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:52:19 EDT
From: James MacKinnon <MACKINNO@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject:    Tape drives for RS/6000

Last week, I asked about experiences with tape drives on RS/6000s.
I have now received replies from six people. The consensus seems to be:

1. Definitely avoid 150 MB QIC drives.  They are too small and too slow.
AIX costs more if purchased on 150 MB tapes.  One respondent also noted
reliability problems with QIC drives in general, although not with IBM
drives.

2. Avoid 525 MB and 1.2 GB QIC drives as well.  They are larger and
faster than the 150 MB ones, but they have problems.  Speed varies, and
the IBM 7207 is reported to be slow.  QIC tapes are relatively
expensive.  Most important, one respondent noted that these drives may
not offer all that much effective capacity because you cannot append to
a QIC tape.

3. Most respondents had no strong preferences between 4mm (DAT) and 8mm
(Exabyte) drives.  Both offer good capacity and speed and relatively low
tape costs.  If you are willing to use consumer-grade tape, 8mm has the
edge in tape costs.  One respondent said that 4mm is more reliable, and
would definitely be his choice.  You can append to both formats.

My tentative conclusion is that if you need the capacity of a 5GB 8mm
drive, that is the way to go.  If not, a 2GB 4mm drive would be
substantially cheaper and seems like the best choice.  A 2.5 (or 2.3?)
GB 8mm drive would also be a reasonable choice.

Thanks to:

Don Buchholz <buchholz@ese.ogi.edu>
John Canning <john%banzai.pcc.com@kira.EMBA.UVM.EDU>
Chris Jacobsen <jacobsen@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov>
Jack Mcbryde <mcbryde@math.UH.EDU>
Andrew McCasker <alm@syscen.com>
Daniel Packman <pack@acd.ucar.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: favre@medsun.unige.ch (favre)
Subject: Imake on AIX 3.2.x
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:14:14 GMT

I'm trying to configure Imake on my IBM RS/6000 320
running AIX 3.2.1. I've copied the files I've 
found in /usr/lpp/X11/Xamples/config in a local
directory and configure xmkmf to find these files.
How do I have to modify these files in a way that the
linker can find some local libraries located in /usr/lpp/X11/lib,
and that the binaries, manuals, etc. can be installed in
the /usr/local/[bin | man | ...] ?
How do I have to configure Imake to link automatically with
the Motif library?

Thank you for your help.

		Eric Favre
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: peppe@ipgaix.unipg.it (G. Vitillaro)
Subject: Re: How can I find out which model of RS/6000 am I logged on ??
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:46:41 GMT

marc@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Marc Pawliger) writes:

>Here's all the current model numbers as decoded from:

>   uname -m | cut -c7-8
....

From the numbers Marc Pawliger gave (thank you) I wrote a little
shell script (using awk associative arrays) that will print
the machine type if it is in the list Marc gave.
Otherwise will return "Unknown Machine".

I tried it on 220, 520, 530, 530H, 550, 950E and it works.

You can update this script if you will know a new machine
will born (or if something in the list is wrong) just adding lines
like:

	m["code"]="MachineType";

to the end of the list.

Hope this will help, G.Vitillaro

==== cut here ========================================================
#!/bin/sh
#
#  Author G. Vitillaro              (peppe@ipgaix.unipg.it)
#  from an idea of Marc Pawliger    (marc@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)
#
#  10/12/92  GVT  First (and last) implementation
#
# machine : will get machine type on RISC/6000
#
#
awk '
	BEGIN { 
		m["10"]="7013/530 or 7016/730";
		m["11"]="7013/540";
		m["14"]="7013/540";
		m["18"]="7013/530H";
		m["1C"]="7013/550";
		m["20"]="7015/930";
		m["2E"]="7015/950";
		m["2E"]="7015/950E";
		m["30"]="7013/520";
		m["31"]="7012/320";
		m["35"]="7012/320H";
		m["37"]="7012/340";
		m["38"]="7012/350";
		m["41"]="7011/220";
		m["5C"]="7013/560";
		m["63"]="7015/970";
		m["64"]="7015/980";
		m["66"]="7015/580";
		if ( m[code] != "" )
			print "This RISC/6000 is a " m[code];
		else
			print "Unknown Machine";
	} 
' code=`uname -m | cut -c9-10` < /dev/null
==== cut here ========================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: ry66@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Andreas Ley)
Subject: X11R5 again - mysterious $DISPLAY
Reply-To: ley@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:03:23 GMT

First I want to thank all the people who answered to my last question - I got
two patches, and after installing them and one night of recompiling, I'm happy
again :)

But there seems to be another problem: when I start the X server (either the
X11R5 or the AIXwindows one), directly or using startx, and open an xterm with
-display :0, then $DISPLAY in the new window's shell is :0.0 (that's fine),
but when I'm starting the mwm (there is only the IBM-provided one), and try to
open a new window from the mwm's root window menu, I get this error:
	1363-008  X server named 0:.46 was not found.
Does anybody know why mwm thinks that it's display is 0:.46? (If it was 42, I'd
know! :))

Any help appreciated... Thnx, Andy

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From: virginia@tsw.UUCP (Virginia Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: ibm3151 terminal info (line graphics)
Summary: escape sequences...
Keywords: curses, ibm3151, terminfo
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:38:13 GMT
Organization: The System Works, Redmond, WA


   I have an ibm3151 terminal without the manual. 
   My curses-based program uses line graphics and
   hides the cursor from time to time. 
   
   Does the ibm3151 terminal support line graphics?
   If so, what are the escape sequences to turn 
   these characters "on"?

   Also, does the ibm3151 terminal support cursor
   visibility on and off? (cvvis and civis terminfo
   capabilities??  If so, what are the escape 
   sequences??

   Thanks a bunch!

   virginia  * The System Works * uunet!tsw!virginia
From: losburn@teal.csn.org (Lynn Osburn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: netware/6000
Summary: has anybody been successful?
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:06:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.


At work they think they need another LAN server.  We run a Novell 3.11 on
16MB Token ring, serving >250 users.  They think they want a 530 with the
Netware/6000 package.  Anybody have any good/bad stories to share?

Post here okay, or email losburn@csn.org if you prefer.

Thanks!
lynn
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: shmdgljd@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jay Schmidgall)
Subject: Re: tcl/expect for aix ?
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 16:11:17 GMT
Reply-To: jay@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN
Followup-To: comp.lang.tcl

In article <1992Oct5.232504.25325@amex-trs.com>, jcarton@amex-trs.com (Jeff D. Carton) writes:
|> I have looked around a number of aix ftp sites hoping to find an
|> aix version of tcl/expect. 
|> 
|> Does anyone know where I might be able to find this ?

I'm directing follow-ups* to comp.lang.tcl, as further discussion
probably belongs there.

There is no `aix' version of tcl/expect, per se..  Both packages are
distributed as source and you compile it on your own system.

Tcl has a very smart config script and includes porting.notes to assist
you.  Been a while since I built expect, but as I recall that basically
consists of setting the appropriate flags in the Makefile.

You can grab them from ftp.uu.net in the various directories under
languages/tcl.  They are also shadowed to various sites, and
barkley.berkeley.edu:tcl is set up as an archive of various contrib
enhancements for tcl/tk.

There are other sites as well; expect is available directly from the
author as well, both via mail and anon-ftp to
    ftp.cme.nist.gov:pub/expect/expect.shar.Z

I've been using tcl/tk/expect for some time now on AIX and enjoying it.
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* I hope! First time I've tried    doing that, so maybe it works, maybe not.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: mjp@austin.ibm.com (Michael Phelps)
Subject: X on gto performance update on aix 3.2.3, x11r5
Originator: mjp@bwa.kgn.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 13:12:28 GMT
Reply-To: mjp@vnet.ibm.com (Michael J. Phelps)
Organization: IBM Kingston NY
Keywords: X,gto


Users with GTO graphic adapters out there might be interested in the X performance
improvements in aix 3.2.3.  Heres an idea of the differences from one of the 
developers:

> A user will need to install X11R5 (available 12/18/92) and
>AIX 3.2.3. These performance changes apply only to X11R5. We targeted
>Window, Text and Dashes for performance improvements. The following
>numbers were obtained running x11perf on a RISC/6000 Model 530H.  
>
>                                          X11R4          X11R5
>Creat and Map Subwindows (50 kids)  -      29.6          1370.0
>Creat Unmapped Window    (50 kids)  -      44.8          4810.0
>Move Window via Parent   (50 kids)  -     119.0          9750.0
>Unmap Window via Parent  (50 kids)  -     115.0         28700.0

>Char in 80-char line (TR 10)        -    45100.0        95800.0
>Char in 80-char image line (6x13)   -    44900.0        94400.0

>10-pixel Dased Line                 -       41.0         6850.0
>100-pixel Double-Dashed Circle      -        8.6         1060.0

>  I provided these numbers just to give you an idea of the gains
>we realized. Applications, such as InfoExplorer, are much more responsive
>thus giving the user a better 'feel' when scrolling, etc..



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