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From: commike@lgc.com (Alan Commike)
Subject: got me a '90 miata - should i expect any problems?
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corp., Houston, Tx
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:06:25 GMT



I just bought a '90 miata with 38,000. I'm interested in any problems
people have had with their miata's. From the records that came with the 
car, the biggest problem seemed to be the radio - it was replaced 3 times!

The only major thing that was done was the catalytic converter was
replaced @ ~ 30K. 


Is there anything that can be used to clean the rear window on the 
soft-top. The plastic is foggy and has some scratches in it. I wish Mazda
had put in a glass window!


So far the car is great. I wanted a '93 RX-7, but i can't put down that 
much cash for a car. So instead a got a little roadster, not fast but pretty
fun. I've never owned a "real" car (no flames, i've read enough in the
"only real men [and women] drive stick). In another week or so i should be
able to stop worrying about the mechanics of driving, and start driving.

thanks,

	...alan

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From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: who makes a good garage door opener?
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:14:52 GMT

I agree on the Stanley junk.  I have seen the same problems.  What really aggravates
me on most units is the poorly designed electronics and controls.  Chamberlain has 
always had good user friendly units.  

One scarey experience with repairing a Chamberlain occurred this year.  My 9-year old
unit lost the drive pinion and I got the repair kit (which has all the internal drive
parts) and installed it.   While trying to adjust to limit switches, I was standing on
a stool and running the door up and down about 8-10 times when -- POW! -- the motor's
starter capacitor overheated and blew a seam.  Smoke and hot oil shot straight out the
back and sprayed oil all over the electronics PWB.  Luckily I was standing on the
opposite side!   Had to remove the PWB and wash it in alcohol and dry before it would
work (the oil is a good dielectric and it got a square hit on the receiver tank circuit.
Finally after about 8 months the PWB gave up (the receive range kept decreasing).

The repalcement PWB cost about $50 and also needed a new wall switch for about $14.
At least now it has better range than original and the new wall switch gave me the
"LOCK" and "LIGHT" features of the newer models.  Also the newer receiver has a 
"LEARN" mode so it can work with a variety of transmitters with different codes.
Only problem with the "LEARN" mode is that it takes two people in my case, since
I have mounted the transmitters under the dashboard of each car with a remote
pushbutton.   Someone has to be at the receiver and in the car to accomplish the
task.

Mark
From: erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: RE: ANNOYING FILM ON WIND
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com (Erich Lim) 

-> In <64590096@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com> knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom
-> Knotts) write

-> >What about that icky film that builds up on the inside of the
-> window? >It gets so bad that I can write my name from insude the car.
-> How does one remove the film?

 bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
-> As a smoker, I assumed it was from my cigarettes, but when I cleaned
-> it off, the cloth was black, not brown. I have come to the conclusion
-> that it is exhaust fume residue on both sides of the glass. Windex
-> seems to work resonably well, white vinegar and water does also. For
-> really stubborn film, a powdered cleanser is the last resort.


  Actually, the WINDEX improves the chance of getting the film on the
inside of the window.  It is something in the windex that isn't made for
automotive glass that causes the film to appear.  Also, smoking and the
use of Armour All causes this to happen.  In Armour All, the chemicals
are released from the dashboard due to a chemical reaction from the
sunlight and the film is the result.  I used to use Windex and Armor All
and my windows on my Integra were "hazing" up 2-3 days after they were
cleaned.  I'm also a non-smoker.  Since then, I've put on a dashboard
cover and I don't have to clean the inside of my window but once or
twice a month.  There isn't anymore of that annoying haze...


 Erich.
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From: vjd11@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (virgil.j.duncan)
Subject: Re: 1993 BMW 325is
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:52:56 GMT
Summary: BMW 325i

In article <2B0035F7.18050@news.service.uci.edu>, eabu288@orion.oac.uci.edu (Alvin Chiu-Wen Chen) writes:
> Does anyone have any information on the 1993 BMW 325is?  I am getting one soon but I don't know when the new cars will arrive and the price.  Would someone pleae supply some information.
> thanks in advance.
> 
My wife has been dreaming about a BMW for a long time; so we went and
bought a 1992 325i automatic.

It is indeed a driver's car; very solid and well balanced - the engine
peaks after 3000rpm; I am not sure how many people appreciate 180HP
on a car of this size. At any rate I would definitely buy it with stick shift
and I'd also try the 318i (same body, the engine is a 4cyl 1800cc).
You would save 5-6K$. Also expect a 8-10% discount on the sticker price.

A 325i automatic with vinyl seats will be like 32,000 and a 318i like
24,000(stick only and no other frills like sunroof,etc)


Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Top 20 Selling Vehicles of 1992
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:12:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.160831.27436@col.hp.com> friedman@col.hp.com (John Friedman) writes:
>hsd@swl.msd.ray.com (HERBERT DASILVA) writes:
>>   I saw this in the Boston Globe this past Sunday, and thought it would be
>>   of general interest.  Most of the lists we see are the "top 10 cars",
>>   which typically contain a high percentage of Japanese autos.  Imagine my
>>   surprise to see the all the data:
>> 
>>   1. Ford F-series pickup
>>   2. Chevy CK pickup
>>   3. Honda Accord		This is the list of top 20 sales of
>>   4. Ford Taurus		vehicles in the USA in 1992.
>>   5. Ford Explorer
>>   6. Toyota Camry		The Globe lists their source as
>>   7. Ford Ranger		the Automotive News Data Center.
>>   8. Ford Escort
>>   9. Dodge Caravan		Unfortunately, they didn't list
>>  10. Chevy Lumina (car)		number of units, just rank.
>>  11. Honda Civic
>>  12. Ford Tempo
>>  13. Chevy Cavalier
>>  14. Toyota Corolla
>>  15. Pontiac Grand Am
>>  16. Plymouth Voyager
>>  17. Chevy S10 pickup
>>  18. Toyota pickup
>>  19. Ford Aerostar
>>  20. GMC Sierra pickup
>
>Ah yes, but how many of the "domestic" models are manufactured outside of
>the US?
>
>John Friedman
>friedman@col.hp.com

	I don't think any of them are.  The Escort is made by Ford and 
designed by Mazda, though.  The Lumina might be made in Canada, now that I 
think of it.

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From: vjd11@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (virgil.j.duncan)
Subject: Re: Geo Prizm; where is the engine made
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:35:14 GMT
Summary: Bonneville

In article <BxI5Jw.362.2@cs.cmu.edu>, murthy+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Sesh Murthy) writes:
> PS:  I got a lot of flames for saying I like my new
> Bonneville.  Don't flame me for buying American.
> I am not preaching to you so do not preach
> to me.  I get my dose of religion on Sundays at 
> the temple.
> PPS: No problems yet with my Bonneville. (45 days
> and 3000 miles)
> 
Do not say yet - it is for sure! I got a 1990 and I put on it
36,000 miles in less than 2 years without a hitch.
Just the regular maintenance (oil changes, plugs and fuel and air
filters). It is probably the best value on the market today talking
about 4DR sedans this size.
The new Bonneville is not much different mechanically from the old one.
Let me know how yours has behaved because I want to trade-in mine
in the next few months for a new one.
From: naik@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Raghunandan Naik)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: QUESTION ABOUT VALUE ??
Keywords: SAAB 900s 1988
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:43:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi 

I have a question about a car that I own .

It is a SAAB 900 S with these features:

-1988
-Complete Power pack (steering, windows, doors etc)
-sun roof
-Automatic Transmission (BRAND NEW)
-Am-FM stereo
-No rust
-No Dents
-Great Interior
-Regularily maintained
-no accidents
-110,000 miles

Ok the question is how much is this worth ?? I have just (11-09-92) rebuilt 
the transmission and it has a warranty.  Brand New brakes ( pads, discs and
calibers).  New tires and Generally the car is in great shape..

Could someone tell me what this car is worth if I were to sell it ??
Most of the miles are freeway miles and the mechanics (quite a few) said
that 110000 miles is not mush for a SAAB..

I would really appreciate some info ..
If anyone has any question please go ahead and write to me ..

Thanks a lot 

cheers
- RAGHU NAIK

naik@andromeda.rutgers.edu


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From: dye@i88.isc.com (Ken R. Dye )
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GAS PEDAL PROBLEM, 88 MUSTUNG
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:16:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Nov05.071647.10313
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <Bx7E4K.M3K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Real life?!  Bahahahahah!!) writes:
>mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:
>
>>If they do move, look for a bad throttle position
>>sensor. There are other things that could cause this, but these are the
>I thought all modern systems had done away with the throttle position sensor.
>Unless I'm mistaken, the only time the engine management is made aware of
>throttle position is when your foot is off the gas and when it's floored.
>At least that's how the Bosch systems are.  I could be wrong about the Mustang.
>MTC

	FI systems that don't have Mass AirFlow sensors require the throttle
position. I think 88 mustangs qualify, they went to MAF in '89 (strangely,
the same year that GM went from MAF to MAP on their tuned port V8s...
the MAF sensor was the bottleneck in the airflow of the motor).

--Ken
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From: Vision@cup.portal.com (Vision - Tester)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Stick VS Auto.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:17:16 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Stick vs. Auto:

It depends on the car.  If I'm driving a car with under 250 horses, then
stick is the way to go.
But when I play with real muscle, stick shifts are just a nuisance.  With a
tricked auto transmission, you can get the car to shift to 1st when you are
going 80mph.  If you want to play "stick", then play with the auto shifter.
But when you want to put that power to use, nothing compares to slamming
the gas with 4-500hp under the hood.  I love launches with an auto trans --
I get to enjoy the ride (rather than wasting my time shifting -- hell, if I
want to shift, I'll start with the auto shifter in 1st and work my way up --
and I sometimes do that)

Not to mention, a tricked auto transmission will shifter faster than many
people can dream of doing.  Even though autos weigh more than standards,
they make up for it in the shifting time (and you get to watch the smoke
rather than the screen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.sport
From: marc@octel.com (Marc Lewert)
Subject: Is there any intrest in my posting BAMA Newsletters?
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:13:08 GMT

This is probably a strange question, but...

Is there any interest in me posting the BAMA (Bay Area Miata Association)
newsletters?  BAMA is a Miata enthusiast club and has a monthly newsletter.
If yes, what is the proper newsgroup for the posting?

Please send your replies to: marc@octel.com

	marc
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From: Vision@cup.portal.com (Vision - Tester)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FLAME! Only a Manual!
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:06:48 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov10.233727.11527@syacus.acus.oz.au>

>A question for those who drive automatics: Have you *ever* seen a racing
>car (F1, Indy, Stock, Rally, etc.) that has an auto transmission?

Here is a better question:  Do you know WHY they use manuals instead of
automatics?  Manuals have their advantages when you are racing in circles
around a track (the car wont shift all of a sudden on you), but more 
importantly, automatic transmission weigh more.  Hell, those guys running
racing cars would love to get an automatic transmission they can select
gears with and have it shift in a split second (even faster than their
cluthless shifts), but an automatic like that would weigh too much.  It'll
drag the car down.  So they stay with their manuals.  In their case, an
automatic will have little advantage, but if it wasnt for the weight factor,
I bet there would be many automatics out there.

If you go putt-putt around town in your four banger, then a stick shift is
the way to go (hell.. you need any power you can get), but if you have a
monster muscle car, you dont want a stick shift.  
Get behind the wheel of a car with REAL power and you will know what I mean.
Nothing compares to the feel of a HARD automatic shift.  The only way a
stick shift will get a similar feel is if you shift without the clutch, and
even then it doesnt compare.  Try a hard shift with a clutch and you'll just
hurt your clutch.  Hell, take your 4 cyl (or whatever you have), do a hard
shift into 2nd and get that tire to squeak.  Now magnify that by 100 and
you'll understand what it is like to have REAL muscle and an automatic
together. 

Oh yeah -- I'm not talking about the automatic transmissions in the cars of
today.  The auto manufacturers are striving for comfort and smooth shifts,
which is why today's stick shifts are generally faster than the automatics
(the automatics just shift too damn slow).  But getting an automatic to shift
HARD is simply a matter of changing the valve body inside the transmission.
Without any modifications, I doubt any automatic transmission of today will
slip the tire (except maybe on launches or when you are in the rain :-) )
 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou)
Subject: Re: highly desirable cars not sold in the US (was INFFINITI vs BMW
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:46:52 GMT

TVR Griffin
Caterham Super 7
Renault Clio
Aston MArtin Vantage
Alfa Romeo SZ (tastefully ugly)
Toyota Aristo
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Survey impartiality
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.215144.11675@oakhill.sps.mot.com> rvkl60@aus18a25.sps.mot.com (Tom Mathes) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.173420.12952@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>>
>>If you think the results of the questionaire in CU are baised against
>>Americans and for Japanese because we are essenitally told by society
>>how to think about our car then:
>>
>>john
>>
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>>"I can't compete with you physically,      /\  __ \ /\  ___\ /\ \/\ \
>>and you're no match for my brains."   	   \ \ \/\ \\ \___  \\ \ \_\ \
>
>
>I have a really good example of CU's bias.  Look at "badge" engineered
>cars, such as the Ford Explorer/Mazda Navajo, or the Mistubishi
>Eclipse/Chrysler Laser.  The Japanese car will get a better reliability
>rating than the American counterpart, *even though both cars are
>identical*.  That cut it for me that CU is biased towards Japanese
>cars.
>
>Tom

Huh??? Did you even look at it. Before you spout something check
your sources not your bias.

The Mistubishi Eclipse/Eagle Talon/ Plymouth Laser all have
******IDENITCAL****** relability ratings! Based on the 92 CU buying
Guide.

Explain, why would they be identical if the info was not accurate?
If this American/Japanese phenmonen did in fact exist shouldn't the
Mistubishi be rated higher than the Plymouth. Regardless, it is
interesting that they are the same. I think it shows the value of 
CU.

john
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From: wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein)
Subject: Re: highly desirable cars not sold in the US (was INFFINITI vs BMW
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:02:09 GMT

	Ah, but the Citroen XM is sold in the US.  The are imported and
modified for the US by CX Auto, a company based in New Jersey.  They
have a showroom in NYC on W. 56(?).

	wwein@skidmore.edu


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From: trubik@hydra.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo)
Subject: Cross-posts (PLEASE READ)
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 19:25:04 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Just a reminder:

	rec.autos.sport is NOT a group for discussion of sports
	cars, but for discussion of sports involving autos.
	Lately, r.a.s has been receiving increasing numbers of
	posts involving sports-car questions (e.g. "Can I order
	a Corvette with a turbo?")

	This is not intended as a flame but as a friendly
	reminder with noise reduction as its only goal.

	Thanks.

	- s t e v e n

	  trubik@triton.unm.edu
From: goble@hardy.u.washington.edu (Brian Goble)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Seattle Auto Show
Summary: When, where, how much, pictures?
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:47:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov13.174729.28789
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington


Is the Seattle Auto Show still going on this weekend (11/14-11/15).
If so, can someone tell me when, where, how much and if taking
pictures is ok...thanx!

(please email)

-Brian


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From: wesf@boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii)
Subject: Re: who makes a good garage door opener?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:37:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Mark Shaw (mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com) wrote:

: but the reduction drive gears from the motor to the drive shaft are plastic, as
: is the mechanisn for tripping the limit switches.   Try taking the cover off
: your drive housing and then tell me you don't have any plastic drive parts.
: 
: There is no earthly reason for Chamberlain to tool two sets of drive components.
: The only variation in the models I have seen is the motor size and electronic
: features.  The local sales office says that ALL Chamberlain models have plastic

Yep, you're right.  I stand corrected.  The Chamberlain units do have plastic
gears in the gear reduction unit.  I don't consider the trip mechanism for 
the limit switches as a high load item so was not concerned about plastic
there.  Oh well, I still like the three Chamberlain units that I have.  I 
haven't had any problems with any of them yet, unlike the junk Stanley that
I used to have.  Three of my neighbors have Stanley units and I know that 
two of them have problems from time to time... 

(Thanks for the correction Mark)

Wes Fujii

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From: ec@fc.hp.com (Edgar_Circenis)
Subject: Re: Service Engine soon light coming on
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:11:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Doug Geiste (geiste@hsi.com) wrote:
> I'm hoping that someone can point my the right direction for this problem.
> 
> My 1987 Pontiac Grand Am (4 cyl) has a problem with the Service Engine
> Soon light comes on. The car runs fine though except for one noticable thing.
> 
> I was sitting in the car with the engine running waiting for the light to
> come on (my wife said it takes a few minutes after the car has warmed
> up before the light comes on). Just before the light came on, the engine's
> RPM went up slightly. I could almost smell something like sulfur. Sounds
> like catalytic (sp?) converter. Could someone tell me what the possible
> causes are of this light coming on? The air filter is new so it's getting
> air ok. It's been a while since it's had a tune-up though. The light 
> will go off/on intermittently while driving the car.

Well,  I have an '89 Gramd Am and experienced the same problem with
the "service engine soon" light.  I ended up taking it in for the 30K
checkup and asked them about it.  I cannot rembmer what the problem
was, but it was a problem.  This is not one of those "remember to get
your car serviced" lights.  If it's on, there's probably something wrong.

(It wasn't the catalytic converter in my case)

Edgar