HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jmiller@uop.edu (James Miller)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Posting over NNTP with INN inews and innd...
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:24:10 GMT
Organization: University of the Pacific
NNTP-Posting-Host: unix1.cc.uop.edu

Here is my problem:

We have succesfully installed INN on our server machine here (for those
who haven't, you should as INN is a fantastic package), and have
installed nn and rn on our remote machines which are to be reading and
posting news via NNTP. I have also installed the INN version of inews to
facilitate posting.

Both packages are reading news from the host very nicely, but inews
won't (can't) connect to post. Sounds like an obvious answer, but let me
give you the configuration details:

On the news host:
o nnrp.access contains the line "*.uop.edu:Read Post:::*", and all other
  hosts match that FQDN pattern (they are reading fine).
o posting from the news host works fine (this article is evidence of
  that).

On the client:
o used makeInews uop to setup inews directory
o used basiclly unmodified config.data file, with minor path tweaks and
  system compatibilty (Sun 3/160-- SunOS 4.1.1) checks. Used the INND
  style of nntp connections
o added the news host FQDN to the _ENV_NNTPSERVER and _CONF_SERVER
  defines in the paths.h file
o added "server: unix1.cc.uop.edu" (news host FQDN) to inn.conf file
o added server file with host FQDN (just in case)
o used make install to install everything, and double checked that it
  landed where it was supposed to (or where inews thought it was at
  least)

When a post (or cancel for that matter) is attempted from either nnpost
or Pnews, mail is sent back saying "What server?, please try later"
Arrg. What did I miss and/or do wrong? I really have tried to study the
copius documetation to figure this out on my own, but have been
unsuccessful so far. 

Thanks for all the help anyone can provide. I have to say that this is
the ONLY baffling problem I (a novice news adminstrator) have had
installing INN, which is an impressive statement to make for something
as complex as news handling. Thank you Rich $alz!

James Miller
University of the Pacific
jmiller@uop.edu OR jmiller@unix1.cc.uop.edu
From: aggarwal@tigger.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: INN performance on SPARC-2?
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:59:40 GMT
Organization: JvNCnet
Originator: aggarwal@r2d2.jvnc.net

alden@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Dave Alden) writes:

>In article <1992Sep2.135934.29060@osf.org> rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz) writes:
>>In <1992Sep2.020544.29933@europa.asd.contel.com> pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe) writes:
>>>I have tentative plans to set it up on a Sun SPARC-2 which will have 64MB of
>>>memory (currently has only 16 MB).  The feed is via NNTP (over a T-1 link)

>zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu is a Sparc-2 w/64M of RAM which has a full news
>feed (2201 newsgroups as of Sep 9th, 1992. :-)  I have ~15 people reading
>news at any one time, 12-13 using NFS (anyone in my department) and 2-3
>using NNTP (anyone in my college).

>I am running 31 outgoing nntplinks and ~25 incoming nntplinks.  Since zaphod
>is my workstation, I'm always worried about performance.  :-)  I average a
>load of around 7 during the day -- HOWEVER, my testing proves this to be
...
>and just use the machine for news my load averages around 2.  If I login
>and begin using the machine the load average goes up to 3. (obviously :-)
>However, the load average is deceiving since I don't really notice any
>slowdown unless mthreads and uucp are running, and then the slowdown isn't
>very bad - just annoying.

(Sorry for the late followup to this message)...

I am providing about 20 nntplink feeds (Cnews, converting to INN
presently), and I find that my load average is always below 2.
I guess transferring news is not really CPU intensive ?
However, this is very decieving since I can notice the system
is noticebly slow for interactive usage.

Other parameters like disk I/O seem to be more relevant in this case-
I just don't know how to gauge the disk I/O (how much is too much).
I have two controllers and have the history and spool files on 
separate controllers, but can still feel the system being noticeably
slow.

Can other major new providers comment on their disk io figures (from iostat ?)
Any other parameters that I can look at to see how to help the system ?

 -vikas                                                     (609) 258-2403
 vikas@jvnc.net	                                  ...rutgers!jvncnet!vikas
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From: ake@dayton.saic.com (Earle Ake)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: INN on bsdi/386
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:21:22 GMT
Organization: Science Applications Intl Corp - Dayton, Ohio
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


	I am having problems getting INN going under bsdi/386.  I have the
binaries built but I do not have a good grasp on where the different files
go and where the articles reside.  If there is a complete document that
details this information, please point me at it.

	I have had to make some changes as this version of unix does not have
lint yet among other things.

	Some of the things I need to know are:

1) Where do the articles get put once they are transferred onto your system?
We have directories created in the /var/spool/news and /usr/spool/news areas.

2) We keep getting the error message:

innd: ME cant write comp/os/vms/3 No such file or directory

Where is this supposed to be?

I have experience with ANU-News on VMS and have a good understanding of
NNTP, Usenet, etc but this is not very straight-forward.


Help?


-Earle
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: claman@copley.csc.mckinsey.com (Larry Claman)
Subject: Help with NNTP & AIX
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:03:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Information & Technology Dept., McKinsey & Company

I have been trying to compile NNTP 1.5.11 on an RS/6000 running
AIX 3.2, and I haven't had much luck.  Is there a newer version or
an RS/6000 version of NNTP that I should be using?  If anyone can
point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it!!!

Thanks!

	-Larry
	 claman@copley.csc.mckinsey.com
From: roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: rrn problem (GROUP command)
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:31:26 GMT
Reply-To: roy@nova.med.nyu.edu
Organization: Public Health Research Institute (New York)
Originator: roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu


	I'm running 'NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.11 (10 February 1991)'
under SunOS-3.5.2.  The server software has been working well for a long
time.  I've got a DECstation 5000 running Ultrix 4.2a with rn-4.4.pl3 which
I installed a couple of weeks ago and has been running fine up until now,
when I started getting:

$ rn
Unread news in rec.boats                                    3 articles
Unread news in comp.dcom.modems                            23 articles
Unread news in comp.protocols.appletalk                     8 articles
Unread news in comp.protocols.tcp-ip                        2 articles
Unread news in comp.sys.mac.comm                           14 articles
etc.

Finding new newsgroups:

Server response to GROUP :
501 Usage: GROUP newsgroup.
$

whenever I start up rrn.  On another sun, also running SunOS-3.5.2, with

@(#)$Header: rn.c,v 4.3.2.11 91/01/04 22:58:24 sob Exp $
Patch #: 54

things seem to be working fine, with the same .newsrc file.  Anybody have
any idea what might be going on?
-- 
roy@wombat.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, USA
"This never happened to Bart Simpson."
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: westes@sti.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Why Would New News Not Be Available To NNTP?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:02:55 GMT

What would cause NNTP to ignore new news in a conference?

On an AIX system whose operating system was recently upgraded to 3.2, a new 
article was added to a particular newsgroup using newsrun (from cnews).  Examining 
the active file, this new article shows up for the newsgroup.  Yet if you get into
NNTP and issue a GROUP command for the group followed by successive NEXT
commands, NNTP stops right before the new article and fails to recognize
that the new article is there.  What causes this?  Thanks!

-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: pcg04000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Peter-Ch. Gentz)
Subject: Fastest relay for news
Reply-To: gentz@zrz.tu-berlin.de
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:53:38 GMT


I want to setup a very fast relay for news. I want to use
INN and nntplink (with logfile option).

Is there any faster configuration  ???

Any suggestion welcome.

Peter

-- 
Peter-Ch. Gentz         Tel.:  +49 30 314 23897  
c/o TU-Berlin/ZRZ       s=gentz ou=zrz p=tu-berlin a=dbp c=de 
Einsteinufer 17         gentz@zrz.tu-berlin.de 
D 1000 Berlin 10
From: schmitz@scd.hp.com (John Schmitz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: trn mods to nntp-server vs. tin mods to nntp-server
Date: 29 Sep 1992 02:17:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Santa Clara Division
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsceo.scd.hp.com

Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net writes:
> If you are using a pre-PL6 version of tind I would agree. If you are using
> a PL6 version of tind then I would ask you to run a few tests and post them
> here. If PL6 tind is still a hog then I will have another go at optimizing.

Here's some data from an hp 750 running 8.05:

version        time (seconds)

PL6            110            verbose mode
PL6            110
PL6            109
PL6            109            verbose
PL5            107            verbose
PL5            111
PL5            126
PL5             99            verbose

The test were run on approximately 60 groups containing 3800
articles.

I don't see much difference between the two versions.
From: wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: New FAQ Submitted
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:24:19 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG, Walldorf, Germany

Folks,

  A new FAQ has been submitted to the pit-manager FAQ server and
  should appear at the next automatic posting which is 30 days after
  the last posting.  If you can't wait, see below for instructions on
  obtaining the FAQ.

  In general, I made various changes due to the new official patches
  posted (ie. new patchlevel, bugs fixed, etc.).

			  Changed questions

  o Where can I get nn?
    A Canadian depository is given.

    A mail server in Holland that has the sources is listed.

  o What references exist for nn?
    The filename for the FAQ on ftp.uu.net is updated.

  o How should I report bugs?
    For now, use news.software.nn.

  o How can I make life simpler when starting nn for the first time?
    The method of editing the .newsrc first is given.

  o What is the status of nn?
    Replaced previous plea with a transitional message until Peter has
    a chance to update it.

  o Unofficial patches for various bugs
    Removed all patches that are in patch 17 and 18.

  o How can I set a different Organization name?
    Answer now found in the new question, "How can I update my mail headers?"

  o How can I make mail replies go to a different machine?
    Ditto.

  o Why does nn crash when a letter one past the highest letter is selected?
    Now reference patch 17 (for a few months).

			    New questions

  o How can I change how my real name appears?
  o How can I update my mail headers?
  o Why do I get ".../MASTER not found"?

			  Deleted Questions

  o Is Kim male or female?


			   Previous Update

  There is finally a new nn maintainer.  Please welcome Peter Wemm
  from Oz <peter@zeus.dialix.oz.au>.  I expect that he will update the
  question "What is the status of nn?"

			  Changed questions

  o Where can I get nn?
    A new mini-inews is available.

  o Unofficial patches for various bugs
    I've uncorrupted the patches.  And thanks to Peter, hopefully they will
    soon be obsolete.

    There is a new patch for date parsing.

  o Can I use my mailer to send mail?
    nn-expand-mail-alias has been updated.

  o Why isn't nnmaster working?
    Yet another possible cause presented (no news user).

			    New questions

  o How do I save my posts, followups and replies automatically?
    
			  Obtaining the FAQ

  By anonymous ftp:
    pit-manager.mit.edu	[18.72.1.58]	/pub/usenet/news.answers/mh-faq
					/pub/usenet/news.answers/nn-faq
    ftp.uu.net [137.39.1.9]		/archive/usenet/news.answers/mh-faq.Z
					/archive/usenet/news.answers/nn-faq.Z

  By uucp:
    uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mh-faq.Z
    uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/nn-faq.Z

  By mail:
    Send mail to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu containing one (or
    both) of the following:
  
	send usenet/news.answers/mh-faq
	send usenet/news.answers/nn-faq

Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> <sapwdf!wohler>
Heidelberg Red Barons Ultimate Frisbee Team
From: komandur@cs (Sridhar &)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Compiling nn Release 6.4 on SunOS 4.1.1
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:48:05 GMT
Distribution: news.software.nn
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Hi Kim

I am having problems compiling nn-6.4  on sparc station running SunOS 4.1.1.


I selected s-sunos4-v.h and m-sparc.h in config.h. 

I am including  the error messages below.

Thanks in advance for your help

Sridhar Komandur

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Email: 	komandur@cs.pitt.edu

Vmail: 	(412) 624 8842 	( Work: Software TA, 318 MIB )

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komandur@puppy[25] => make all
cp xmakefile MF.c
/usr/lib/cpp -DCOMPILER="cc" -DPREPROC="/usr/lib/cpp" \
       -DLDEBUG="" \
       -DCDEBUG="-O" -Iconf MF.c | \
sed -e '1,/MAKE WILL CUT HERE/d' \
    -e '/^#/d' \
    -e '/^[ \f  ]$/d' \
    -e '/^[ \/]*[*]/d' | \
sed -n -e '/^..*$/p' > ymakefile
rm -f MF.c
make  -f ymakefile all
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  nn.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  admin.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  proto.c
configuration number updated to 13
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  global.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  options.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  db.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  nntp.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  init.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  variable.c
cc -Iconf  -O  -target sun4 -c  term.c
term.c: 61: Can't find include file term.h
*** Error code 2
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `term.o'
Current working directory /home/merlot2/komandur/nn/nn
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all'
--

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Email: 	komandur@cs.pitt.edu

Vmail: 	(412) 624 8842 or 1266 	( Work: Software TA, 318 MIB )

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Pihl)
Subject: Variable "G"?
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:17:15 GMT

Just read the FAQ and got a bit confused when read about how
you can use "variable G" to get specific signatures in different
groups. How does this work, or how do I do if I want different
sigs?


-- 
---
Tomas Pihl    / Ellemtel Telecom Systems Lab, Sweden
{Extern}

Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Subject: Re: .signature: How to only get one copy?
Keywords: .signature
Organization: Wayne State Univ.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:07:55 GMT

Thanks to everyone with the info about:

unset append-signature-post
-- 
     ____  __   __       Tom@UTS.CC.Wayne.Edu
      /   /_/  /_        Thomas_Richard_Stevenson@MTS.CC.Wayne.Edu
     /.  /\ . __/.       Tom@CMS.CC.Wayne.Edu
                         UserTom@WayneMTS.Bitnet
From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Bug in nn with handling Re: ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:55:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

mike@marvin.pcs.com (Mike Schroeder) writes:

>In <rhoward.717701797@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:

>->tnnrtg@tnb.phys.tue.nl (Tonnie Geraets) writes:

>->>A question to start with:
>->>Did this article show up in article selection mode with the subject
>->>"Bug in nn with handling Re: ?"? I.e. without "Re: " or ">"?

>->Without the "Re: " or the "#>"

>sorry to disappoint you, but it showed up with a leading ">" here.

>so why does your NN behave differently from mine? BTW, I'm running the
>latest official patch, ie. PL18

Same patchlevel.  This is on a SparcStation w/ SunOS 4.1.2.  Here is
the setting from init

	# Use a number before the > rather than a lot of >'s
	set re-layout 2

Is this what you are using?

Robert
--
| Robert L. Howard              |   Georgia Tech Research Institute     |
| robert.howard@matd.gatech.edu |   MATD Laboratory                     |
| (404) 528-7165                |   Atlanta, Georgia  30332             |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
| "See, when the GOVERNMENT spends money, it creates jobs; whereas when |
| the money is left in the hands of TAXPAYERS, God only knows what they |
| do with it.  Bake it into pies, probably.  Anything to avoid creating |
| jobs." -- Dave Barry                                                  |
From: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: NN on RN-only system
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:36:32 GMT
Reply-To: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu
Originator: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu


The system I am on only has rn installed (it uses NNTP to get news from another
machine).  Can I (as a user) set up a version or something of NN (I am used to
using NN) in my home directory?  What would this entail?  Sorry if this is a
FAQ - Please EMAIL replies to jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu

Thanks...
From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Bug in nn with handling Re: ?
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:36:37 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

tnnrtg@tnb.phys.tue.nl (Tonnie Geraets) writes:

>A question to start with:
>Did this article show up in article selection mode with the subject
>"Bug in nn with handling Re: ?"? I.e. without "Re: " or ">"?

Without the "Re: " or the "#>"

>If so (which I expect, because it's the behaviour of the nn I am using) then
>please look at the subject line on top of your page now, it starts with
>"Re:".

Sure enough....

>Somehow nn discards the "Re:" in the subject (during article selection mode)
>if there are now References: in the header, i.e. if it is not a "real" reply.

>I think this can be very misleading: you think somebody asks a question, but
>in fact he answers the question (not using the reply facility of the
>newsreader).

>Is this a bug or a feature. If it's the former, has anyone a fix?

It's a feature (in my eyes).  nn strips the Re: off all article
titles so that I only see the article subject.  It then puts
a "#>" (where # is the number of References) in the front.  For
those that like to see just an Re:, nn puts that back on as long
as there is a References: line.

IMHO, people (or newsreaders) that trash the References: line when
following up an article should be shot.  I like to be able to tell
whether or not this article is original (in this case it is).  Also,
those with threaded newsreaders (hopefully this will soon be nn
users too) *really* need those References: lines to keep the threads
intact.

(maybe there needs to be a way to kill all articles that have subjects
 that begin with Re: but have no references :-)

Robert
--
| Robert L. Howard              |   Georgia Tech Research Institute     |
| robert.howard@matd.gatech.edu |   MATD Laboratory                     |
| (404) 528-7165                |   Atlanta, Georgia  30332             |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
| "See, when the GOVERNMENT spends money, it creates jobs; whereas when |
| the money is left in the hands of TAXPAYERS, God only knows what they |
| do with it.  Bake it into pies, probably.  Anything to avoid creating |
| jobs." -- Dave Barry                                                  |
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: stefans@bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Stefan Schwarz)
Subject: Re: Why do articles appear which are canceled/expired?
Keywords: expired canceled
Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:15:37 GMT

kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes:

>Sometimes when I try to read an article NN will, for a moment, display
>a message at the bottom of the screen which reads something like
>article [xxx] canceled or expired.

>If I kill the nnmaster and re-index, then restart the master (nnmaster -l -r -C)
>it seems to be fixed.

>Any suggestions?

nnadmin =EY should be run at regular intervals.

Stefan
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Stefan Schwarz                            University of the armed forces, Munich
Laboratory for graphical data processing  W-8014 Neubiberg, FRG
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: mike@marvin.pcs.com (Mike Schroeder)
Subject: Re: Bug in nn with handling Re: ?
Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:21:06 GMT
X-Newsreader: nn

In <rhoward.717767724@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:
->mike@marvin.pcs.com (Mike Schroeder) writes:
->>In <rhoward.717701797@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:
->>->tnnrtg@tnb.phys.tue.nl (Tonnie Geraets) writes:
->>->>A question to start with:
->>->>Did this article show up in article selection mode with the subject
->>->>"Bug in nn with handling Re: ?"? I.e. without "Re: " or ">"?

->>->Without the "Re: " or the "#>"

->>sorry to disappoint you, but it showed up with a leading ">" here.

->>so why does your NN behave differently from mine? BTW, I'm running the
->>latest official patch, ie. PL18

->Same patchlevel.  This is on a SparcStation w/ SunOS 4.1.2.  Here is
->the setting from init

->	# Use a number before the > rather than a lot of >'s
->	set re-layout 2

->Is this what you are using?

I use "set re-layout 1" and "set layout 4". Maybe this is where it
comes from. I'm running on a MIPS w RISC/OS 4.52B

->Robert
->--
->| Robert L. Howard              |   Georgia Tech Research Institute     |
->| robert.howard@matd.gatech.edu |   MATD Laboratory                     |
->| (404) 528-7165                |   Atlanta, Georgia  30332             |
->-------------------------------------------------------------------------
->| "See, when the GOVERNMENT spends money, it creates jobs; whereas when |
->| the money is left in the hands of TAXPAYERS, God only knows what they |
->| do with it.  Bake it into pies, probably.  Anything to avoid creating |
->| jobs." -- Dave Barry                                                  |
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: NN not producing line count
Keywords: lines
Organization: Xanth Watch
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 20:53:58 GMT

aem@news.miami.edu (andrew mossberg) writes:

>In article <1992Sep29.181049.1162@w8hd.org> kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes:
>>How can I configure NN to produce the Lines: count in the header?
>>

>On a C news installation, inews is responsible for doing that. As shipped,
>the C news inews has that section commented out...

Speaking of Lines: ... has anyone else noticed a great increase in the
number of Lines: less postings during the last month? Posters that had
a line count a month ago doesn't have one now.

-- 
Jesper Lauridsen        |  I survived the rec.arts.sf-lovers split
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk   |