HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey)
Subject: Re: Sticker campaign
Organization: The Leaning Tower of Patterson Office @ The Univ. of KY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:35:12 GMT

In article <5072@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
:Anybody slaps *any* kind of sticker on my car that and I would be *very*
:pissed off.  Is that really what you want, a bunch of ignorant and pissed
:off cagers?  Think about it.

That might not be so bad. At least they might notice motorcycles now.

Sean
-- 
                  |``Wind, waves, etc. are breakdowns in the face of the
Sean Casey        | commitment to getting from here to there. But they are the
sean@s.ms.uky.edu | conditions for sailing -- not something to be gotten rid
U of KY, Lexington| of, but something to be danced with.''
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,tx.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: Free Bridge  [Was: Oil Additive Scoop] 
Keywords: Hey, wanna buy a bridge?
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:04:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.132838.29859@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>
>Anyone interested in a bridge? You don't even have to buy it, it's free.
>The state of Utah is trying to give away the bridge that US 40 uses to
>cross the Green River between Dinosaur, CO and Vernal UT. They haven't
>quite put up a sign that says "Free to good home", but they have taken
>ads out in the paper.

Damn, 
Ann & I just rode over that bridge on July 5th, after the feed.  If only
we would have known, we could have bungied it to the back and brought it
home as a souvenir for the kids.

BTW: (for you tx.motoheads)
I find I will be in Austin next week for an MCC workshop.  Anyone for
dinner/beer/etc? Monday night?  I should be staying at the HI northwest.
Won't have the bike tho, gotta wear a damn suit.  Oh well, that's what I
bought it for... twice a year usage.


-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: New DoD listing. Current membership at 818
Keywords:  LEARN TO READ
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:18:04 GMT


There is a new DoD listing. To get a copy use one of these commands:

		finger motohead@cs.colorado.edu
				OR
		mail motohead@cs.colorado.edu

If you send mail make sure your "From" line is correct (ie "man vacation").
I will not try at all to fix mail problems (unless they are mine ;-). And I
may just publicly tell the world what a bad mailer you have. I do scan the 
mail to find bounces but I will not waste my time answering your questions 
or requests.

For those of you that want to update your entry or get a # contact the KotL.
Only the KotL can make changes. SO STOP BOTHERING ME WITH INANE MAIL

I will not tell what "DoD" is! Ask rec.motorcycles. I do not give out the #'s.


Laszlo Nemeth
laszlo@cs.colorado.edu
"hey - my tool works (yeah, you can quote me on that)." From elef@Sun.COM
"Flashbacks = free drugs."
DoD #0666          UID #1999
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: ERC vs. rain
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:11:36 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Jul20.202505.28187@msc.cornell.edu> lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746) writes:
>From article <1992Jul20.190519.16487@cs.ucla.edu>, by noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry):
>> i took half of ERC two weeks ago (the range session was rained out)
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>...
>
>        Californication takes a new low, Noemi. "this is the MSF, California
>style. We all know it never rains here, so we all run slicks and don't teach in
>the rain, because you'll never have to ride in it, here or anywhere." The MSF
>actually claims these weenies??? ...

In Illinois ERC range exercises are canceled or postponed if it is raining but
MRC:RSS exercises are not always canceled due to rain. In the MRC:RSS it is
stressed that one shouldn't make and sudden speed or direction changes when
riding on slippery surfaces.  Over half of the ERC range exercises involve
sudden speed or direction changes. E.g., rear wheel skid, quick stop, quick
stop on a curve, swerving, swerve then brake, brake then swerve.

Chas
From: hamiltoj@CS.ColoState.EDU ((n)<j>ay)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Keywords: Sidestand switch
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:34:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <1992Jul28.192341.4561@philabs.philips.com> mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato) writes:
>
>
>My 83 Suzuki 1100 has a side stand switch. It is hooked up to a warning light
>on the instrument pod, warning you if it is down - not that I find it very
>useful. For newbies it will probably save some embarassment.
>It is not interlocked to the ignition circuit. Why should it be? On cold
>mornings I always start my bike before getting on to let it warm up.

Well, my sidestand switch is wired into the ignition and guess what?
I can let my bike warm up on cold days just fine.  If they are
wired into the ignition, they are usually wired to the neutral switch
also.  I could very well bypass it under the seat but it doesn't bother
me at all, and at times is useful like when parking on an incline, 
bike is in gear, clutch in in, front brake on, right foot balancing
everything and the left foot is putting down the ss.  Kinda handy
since I don't have a fifth limb to turn the key at the same time.  

And no, this not any big proof that ss switches should be there, just
an example that once in a while these little things can be handy.

Jay Hamilton              XV1000 with more chrome than a Harley
hamiltoj@handel.cs.colostate.edu  Time to change the oil AGAIN?!?!?!
From: ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: winter bike storage tips
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:49:54 GMT
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,

Guess it's time for the annual "bike storage" thread.

Siddharth.Soni@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni) writes:
> I've heard various pieces of advice, some of which are conflicting:
> 
> carbs: drain them?

Yes.  drain the carbs, disconnect the fuel line, plug the line to keep
shit from getting in.  Might not be a bad idea to pull the carbs from
the bike, rebuild/clean them, then re-install.  What the hell, it's
winter anyway. 

> gas tank: keep it empty(rust?) or full?

two choices.  either fill it all the way and add something like
GasStabil (tm), or drain it completely and coat the inside surface
with oil to prevent rust.  I've used GasStabil in the past, with good
results.


> cylinders: put a little oil directly in SP hole?

Yes, then cycle the engine to coat the walls.

> tires: ??

prop the bike up off the ground so that neither tire is touching.
prop under the frame, or use a swingarm stand and front end stand, etc.

> battery: remove? tricke charge?

both.

> Should the bike be started periodically?

no reason to if you do what I said above.  Also, change the oil/filter
before you store the bike, and immediately when you take it out for
the summer.  You want to prevent oil impurities from hanging around in
the motor, and you change it before you ride just in case moisture has
gotten in.

Also, cover the bike if you're gonna keep it outside, and coat it with
WD40 to help prevent rust.  Keep it inside if at all possible.

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: What does she ride?
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:38:01 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <Bs2A73.638@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
>
>	Oh, you were going to tell us what bike you ride, and
>where, and why, and stuff like that?   Great!  Let's hear it!
>

'74 Honda CB360, and sure, you can call her a wimpy bike if you like,
but *I still love her 'cause she's my first*   *sob* *sniff*  'Sides, I
can maintain her myself -- the first motor-powered vehicle I've ever
been able to say that about.  I saw a "naked" 'Wing at California Cycles
a few months ago -- the mechanic had had to pull all the plastic off to
get at the pertinent parts, swearing in the best DoD approved fashion
the whole time -- and boy did it look strange without all the lettuce.

Where?  Wherever I can get away with.  I like to ride in the hills above
Berkeley; cool twisty roads, neat views.  Still dealing with the
highway; the bike is light, and gets blown around alot.  Suggestions for
how to deal?  Get a fairing?  Get a heavier bike is not yet an
affordable option.

Why?  Just 'coz.  I can go where I like, park where I like, and spend a
fair amount of time alone with my thoughts (which, I'll admit, have been
somewhat morbid lately).  In case it wasn't more than patently obvious,
my freedom is important to me, and I feel freer on a bike.  Do have to
pay more attention, but that actually makes for more exhilaration rather
than detracting from the ride.  Found it has improved my caging also;
improved reaction time, and improved observation skills.

Thanks for asking!

- Leigh Ann
--
Leigh Ann Hussey Oster
leighann@sybase.com			DoD#5913	AMA#624549
Siobhan ni hEodhusa
"They're mine!  All mine!  And what's mine is mine!" - Daffy Duck
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: two miles from home (was Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:29:33 GMT

[everyone yammers on about their favorite stereotypes]

But everyone seems to have missed my favorite accident-causing
stereotype. The deaf & blind elderly driver, often manifested as old men
with hats, or old ladies with hair nets. One of them drove over the
front of my sister's cage last night. Of course this tale gets you two
stereotypes for the price of one, since my sister is a teenager.

Geezer in pickup, pulling a large trailer, is stopped at an intersection
where the only choices are left turn or right turn. Since he's stopped
in the left side of the lane, my sister assumes (yep, there's that word!)
that he's turning left, so she pulls up on his right, stops, starts to
make a right turn, and then the geezer turns right. He clips the left
front corner of her car, and drives off. She had to chase him for over a
mile before she could get him to pull over. He claimed he never felt the
impact, saw her headlights flashing, or heard her horn. And until the red
paint on his tires was pointed out to him, he was claiming that he did
not hit her.

The geezer did not signal (I know where I'm going, why do I need to
signal?), and left the scene of the accident, and by all apperances, is
a completely incompetent driver. Of course my sister screwed up by
assuming that he was turning left. And she panicked when the geezer cut
in front of her. Hitting the horns & lights was a good idea, but it
assumes the geezer could see or hear, or would have stopped if he could.
If she'd backed up, or driven up on the curb, he would have missed her.
My sister really seemed quite shocked that someone would actually
violate her right of way. Senility meets inexperience, with predictable
results.

Ok, yea, nothing to do with motorcycles. But I imagine the geezer would
be just as happy to flatten a bike and drive off into the sunset as he
was to drive over the front bumper of a bright red car.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: conrad@pico.OZ (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Another Newbie Wants Recommendations
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:01:26 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson) writes:
: In article <1992Jul14.130331.14755@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> bade@wombat.austin.ibm.com writes:
: >>My question: given a 6'1" 185 lb (oh, ok, 200 lb) 28-year-old newbie,
: >>wouldn't a smaller 250cc bike make more sense?  It's mostly for commuting
: >>10 miles and short weekend trips. 
: 
: >6'1 and 185 and you are gonna get on a 250.  Man will you be uncomfortable
: >my 5'8" SO looked at a rebel and thought it was too small (which is kind
: >of strange since she tends to prefer the smaller bikes).   Too small
: >a bike will have you buzzing arround, any trip of size will be an adventure
: >given your size compared to the size of the bike.  Stay off the freeways.
: 
: At 6'2" 195 I have a lot of fun riding a 250 Ninja, highly manuverable
: fun in the corners.  On the down side my legs start getting cramped
: up after 30 minutes so I strongly recommend against comutting on one
: if you are tall. Just because it is a 250 does not mean that 

Well, just for the record I have a friend who is way over 6' (about
6'6") and has, after 16 years and many bikes, settled on a TZR250.  He's
had it for several years and done a few 1000km+ trips on it.  That he
wouldn't recommend, but for fast commuting he reckon's it's a blast.
Having ridden it I have to agree.  Damn that thing handles!  Y'can get
either ends off the ground w/out trying. Both ends takes a little more
effort.

Me, as I'm just shy of 6 foot & don't do much 110kph touring, I'll also
stick to small, light & quick bikes.   At the moment it's a toss up
between an RZ500 or a 500SL.   Money & decisions!
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:42:54 GMT
Subject: Pointer to oil article
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

With all the discussion about additives, synthetic oils and such,
it was no surprise that the August issue of ROAD RIDER turned up
yesterday in my mailbox with an extensive article on the subject. 

The short version:

  1. PTFE additives: totally bogus
  2. Zinc additives: marginally useful but can hurt cat. converters and  
                      may increase fouling. Golden Spectro has more than
                      average zinc and is called a sensible balance.
  3. More of standard additives: Why?
  4. Detergents & solvents: can be useful if you have a specific problem.
                            If you're doing proper maintenance they are
                            unnecessary at best.


 Discussion on advertising, no-oil demos and Real Life vs. Racing usage.

  Good article by Fred Rau.


I'm very well pleased by the tech articles in this magazine. If I had to
drop all but one MC mag, this one would stay. (But then again, I don't care
if I'm riding the latest neon supersonic squidplastic or not........)


Ron Miller
Ft. Collins, Colo.
ron@hpfcso.fc.hp.com

"You never know what kind of a low-life you'll find over a battlefield."
            -- Robert Shaw, FIGHTER COMBAT
From: jra@bally.com (john andersson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bay Area Parking (SF, Berkeley)
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:52:05 GMT
Organization: Bally Systems Division - Reno, NV

rules and common laws aside, what's the deal with parking a motorcycle
in the "overwhelmed" parts of SF and Berkeley, is it okay to park on a
wide part of the sidewalk or no; is one supposed to cruise around and
wait for an open place or park blocks away from where your going (the
normal thing) or can you snake a crafty place without getting a
ticket? for example, telegraph part of berkeley, haight in SF...

thanks.
-- 
John Andersson
jra@bally.com
Bally Mfg. - Reno, NV
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Blistered Buns: Why Lance Holst is a Jerk
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:49:46 GMT

pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.204143.26789@microsoft.com> patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery) writes:
>>
>>This whole burning Aerostitch issue brings up another point.  In the last MCyclist, 
>>when we last left our fearless crew, many editors named the Aerostitch as a
>>good thing to own, but in all the mag pictures I still haven't seen one.

>In the past 6-8 months there have been 3 Aerostich suits _on the cover_ of
>_Motorcyclist_.  One cover had 2 different people in them.

Not to mention the picture on the very page that Pat mentioned. (Aug.
1992, p42, craftily disguised by the caption "Aerostich Roadcrafter
Suit. :-)  Or see the previous page if you like color instead of B&W.
The Aerostich suit seems to show up in multiple photos in almost every
issue of Motorcyclist, unless they're on the racetrack.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
Subject: Re: Justice!
Organization: Cathode Ray Mission, San Jose
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:28:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.170004.22791@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>How do you curl your hair in a car anyhow?  12V curling iron?

Butane. Geez, Jonathan, you really ought to get out more...


-Neal
[niall@c3.com]
DoD #0x451
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck
Date: 21 Jul 1992 15:48:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 213@halfdome.sf.ca.us, laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:

>if you make a "california stop" (i.e., the classic "pause and go"),

S T O P =  Slightly Tap On Pedal

Are many of the hills in SF 3-way stops (don't stop going up)?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: rwatkins@BBN.COM (Ron Watkins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: for sale
Date: 21 Jul 1992 16:56:59 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: ne
Reply-To: rwatkins@BBN.COM (Ron Watkins)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

circumstances force sale...

1992 Kawasaki ZX11
perfect condition ~1100 miles
all black/2 matching helmets (Small and Medium)
$7500
serious inq. only please.
email rwatkins@bbn.com
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:51:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Parental riding permission (was Re: new meaning for DoD...)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


My dad used to ride a Whizzer when he was a kid.  To this day, there's
still a part of that kid in him.   

I still remember the day we picked up the brand new Honda Trail 90. I was 
10 years old.  We had spent weeks wearing out the glossy sales brochure.  
I think he justified buying it as a vehicle to use during hunting season.  
It seemed like such an innocent bike that my mom learned to ride on it and 
years later, after everyone else had outgrown it, it became her bike. 

A couple of years later, we picked up a CL100 and an SL125.  When I reached
driving age, my folks *offered* to buy me my own motorcycle, so we
picked up a CB100.  Let me tell you, a CB100 is not the hot ticket for
picking up chicks when you're in high school.  (The purchase of a '63
Rambler station wagon was a big step up the social ladder :-)

By this time, my older brother was racing motocross.  My mom quit going to
his races after he broke his collarbone.  Between three boys, Mom got used to 
spending a fair amount of time in the hospital emergency room.  

The only time my Mom put her foot down about motorcycling was when I wanted
to buy a 1971 SL350.  After owning a series of 90-125cc bikes, the 350 was
a MONSTER machine to her.  Being 18 at the time, I bought it anyway.
She sulked for a few days.  When I was still alive at the end of 2 weeks, 
she conceded that it was a pretty nice bike after all.  

That was before the broken leg and shoulder separation (2 different
incidents).  SL350s were not widely known for their prowness in the dirt,
regardless of what suspension modifications you performed.  When I would come 
limping home, Mom would let out a big sigh, pack up her knitting bag and 
haul me down to the emergency room.  

Mom just recently sold her XL185 to the neighbors.  Too bad.  At 57, I
figured that she had a lot of years riding left. 

Before DoD 0498.1 and 0498.2 are allowed to ride motorcycles on the street,
they will have to prove themselves with a minimum five years  dirt
riding.  Brake and power slides, wheelies, and double jumps will be a
mandatory part of the driving exam :-)

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
"Never do this.  Please, please, never post a "flame"."
        -Shuvam Misra
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test - please ignore
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 26 Jul 92 12:01:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059


-> P.S.  Eric, next I suppose that you'll be telling us that your "150hp
-> Ninja" is an environmentally sensible machine.

 Looks environmentally sensible to me.  Now, a 250hp Ninja would be
merely an excercise in ego....                 ^
                                                                                                            
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brady@sed.stel.com (Sean Brady)
Subject: Re: Newbie Lurker Posts!  Film at 11 ...
Organization: SED, Stanford Telecom, Reston, VA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:05:31 GMT

ifversen@fnalm.fnal.gov (King Under the Mountain) writes:

: I recently got a new (to me, anyway) motorcycle from a coworker -- an '83 Yamaha
: XJ750K Maxim.  The guy I bought it from says he got it new in 1986.  Do
: motorcycles actually sit around in the showroom for 3 years?

You betcha!  Around that 82-83 time frame, the Japanese pumped in many
bikes to beat the expected protectionists tariffs that were to be
imposed.  As a result, they had bikes sitting for years before they
were able to sell them.  I bought my '82 Seca in late '86 that same
way (damn good bike).

:  It now has 18k
: miles on it, and is in *really* good shape.  I paid $900 for it.  Is there
: anything in particular I have to watch out for with this model bike?  Did I
: get hosed on the price?  Most comparable bikes around here were going for $800
: to $1500.

The price seems fair to good, depending on the shape of the bike
(rust, dents, fading).  Haven't heard anything bad about those bikes
in particular, but haven't had much to deal with on mine.

: Any thought or advice
: from you net-gurus and/or Denizens would be appreciated.

You're welcome.




-- 
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*           Sean Brady              *      "The point of a journey           *
*     Journeyman,Brewmeister,       *          is not to arrive...."         *
*       all around good guy         *               -Neil Peart              *