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From: cjm5628@ender.tamu.edu (The Muckster!)
Subject: Re: swc,rice, fake grass
Organization: Texas A&M University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:20:37 GMT

>
>
>Every SWC team plays on that green painted concrete junk. 
>
>(Not to mention the Cowboys, and Oilers. At least UTEP plays
> on natural turf.)
>
>Doesn't grass grow in Texas? 

no...

:-)

cmuck

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dwray@convex.com (Daryl Wray)
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:22:35 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: n
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Sep10.172644.5885@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>
>I don't think an "alliance" (as officials have been calling it)
>is the answer, though. An alliance leaves ALL of the schools 
>in it. I think that one of the problems with the SWC is that
>sveral of the schools will _never_ be very good at football,
>and have almmost always sucked at everything else (women's
>sports at several are the worst, non-revenue men's sports
>are usualluy poor, etc.). There are exceptions to be sure, but
>not many. UT and A&M complained about this when they threatened
>to leave the conference last year.
>
...
>
>Thus, and "alliance" probably wouldn't do the trick. I see a
>merger of the "big" four SWC schools with the Big 8 as offering the
>best hope... 
>
>Jay Boisseau
>
>P.S. I'm glad ther aren't too many Baylor, SMU, and TCU fans on the
>net... I suspect the flames will largely come from the Rice fans.
>hey, guys, I like your school, I' just looking out for the Texas
>schools that have a chance to get better, OK?
>

Let's swap Tulsa for Missouri while we're at it.

daryl
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Notre Dame to Big Ten? (was: "Re: tu rumor")
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:30:26 GMT

Tom Krall writes:
> I suppose it is only a matter of time before another school joins
> the B10 (to make the Big 12, sounds better than the Big 11, eh ?).

I'd like to think so; there's something strange about an odd number of
teams (and I also like the divisional format).  But I had heard that
talks had been "tabled" for a number of years, meaning that it's unlikely
official discussion is continuing on adding another member.

There were earlier rumors about Texas and Texas A&M going to the Pac-10,
but Stanford(?) vetoed the idea.  At about the same time, I heard that
the Texas government voted to pull state funds from the two schools if
they left the SWC.  (That latter event is the main reason I found the
"Texas to the Big N" rumor rather hard to swallow.)

I have also heard odd stories about how the NCAA wasn't happy with the
SEC's decision to go to 12 teams (something about the rule for the
championship game was really intended for small-time conferences and
they were shocked when a major conference decided to use it).

> I always thought it would be ND though, seeing their midwest location
> and the fact that they already schedule ~4 Big Ten schools a year.

ND would be a logical addition in terms of geography, but it is not (IMO)
likely to happen.  The Irish are doing far too well on their own to
consider splitting their loot by joining a conference.
--
Chris Stassen 			 408-943-0630 			stassen@alc.com
From: dpassage@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (David Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Cal flattens SJSU
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:32:48
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
NNTP-Posting-Host: eden.cs.berkeley.edu

The important numbers for the afternoon:

Cal 		46
San Jose State	16
Russell White	216 yards

Need I say more?

I didn't think so.

David Paschich
GO BEARS!
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: top 25 (FSU down, UF up)
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:58:44 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <j.m.crant.1.9.0@nd.edu> j.m.crant.1@nd.edu (Mike Crant) writes:
>explanation is because, to paraphrase an FSU scholar (I know, an 
>oxymoron), the Seminoles suck.

You've got a fine future in front of you on this group, fella!

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: Houston in the SWC
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:52:08 GMT

Timothy C Pitts (v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
: twenty seasons.  How do you figure, then, that Baylor draws more national
: attention?

Well, you're probably right... I mean, its kinda hard to gauge *national*
attention (or opinion) of a school which is pretty much local to me...

But I guess that's one of the things I like most about the net -- the
opportunity to see things from a great variety of views!
-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
From: weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com (Matt Weiser)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: CAN ANYONE BEAT THE HUSKIES?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:47:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Martin Marietta WIS

In article <1992Sep15.173638.9969@news.unomaha.edu>, bulls@cwis.unomaha.edu (Richie J. Anderson) writes:
> 
> 
>     The Huskers are going to beat them and rember last year 
> the Huskers wre up at half time over the Huskies by the
> score of 29 to 13 (if I rember right) and they will do a fine 
> job destroying them and like their first two opponets.
> 

Huh?
Gotta be from a U of Nebraska student.  No writing skills and a false
sense of reality.  Washington actually has a football program, unlike
the first two Husker opponents.

Matt Weiser
Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems
weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com
GO BUFFS!
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: MAC preview for September 19, 1992
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:29:35 GMT
	<1992Sep14.170527.19728@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Sep14.170527.19728@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
}} 
}} But Purdue will let down after their big Cal victory, and Toledo will pull
}} off a HUGE upset in West Lafayette, ticking off 1000's of bandwagon student
}} football fans who ran out and bought season tickets after the big victory
}} over Cal.

C'mon Brian, the key to anti-woofing is being earnest.  You've got to
be able to look a Toledo fan right in the eye, sigh wearily, and say,
your voice dripping in sincerity, "I think the best Purdue can hope
for is to stay within a touchdown of Toledo."

Seriously, Purdue should win, but will struggle.  I see Purdue winning
by 7-10.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
   Brake your bike before the wall, or you'll break your bike upon the wall!

             If I don't want it in my back yard, I don't want it.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Subject: Re: 91 BlockBuster (Was Re: Bama in the po
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:11:50 GMT

andy@misha.central.sun.com  writes:
> In article 27853@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com, ward@spock.corp.mot.com (Edward D. Ward) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep6.041232.22656@news.unomaha.edu> skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Martin L. Burrell) writes:
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> >>
> >>[ lots of stuff deleted ]
> >>
> >>My first (biased) prediction:
> >>       Sept. 19   Nebraska 24  Washington 17!!
> >You've got to be kidding right?  In Washington?!?
> 
> I think we understand why he said in his BIASED opinion

    <Very big Grin>  Ayup! 
-- 
Skip Burrell		Internet:	skipb@unomaha.edu
			compuserve: 	76146,2323
My Disclaimer: Any opinion I may have stated was purely unintentional!
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: aggies, hello???
Keywords: aggies and HORNSn
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:57:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amoco Production

In article <1992Sep14.165725.7456@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins) writes:
>
>
>I know this will start it,  Aggies are predictible.
>
>
>Why no aggie woofing???  What happened to the blowout of Tulsa???
>
>Defense- Great              Offense- ????
>

you want your 22 points, here they are...
1) 1 point on a missed extra point
2) (second quarter right after aggie fumble, tulsa deep, 2nd and 10) ball is
   snapped, quarterback gets nailed, ball flies through the air for about an
   hour.  Aggie defenders just play it as an incomplete pass.  RC said he was
   a little miffed at the defense for this one, as the ball was actually a
   lateral from where the quarterback was hit and where it landed, three 
   aggies there, easy 80 yard return for touchdown...Tulsa gets 3 points.
3) (late 4th quarter, 30 seconds left) A&M lets clock run out inside the 10
   yard line of Tulsa.  

final score 34-6


>I didn't see the game so I'm really not sure why the final score was the
>way it was.  Please, fill me in.

Tulsa did ok.  I think Tulsa will wind up in the top 25 again this year.
>
>BTW-  Won 20 bucks, took Tulsa and the points.

With 22 points, you should take em, especially when the aggies are 
concerned, 'cept against SMU, TCU, BYU...   :-)

>
>I predict an allout WAR come Thanksgiving Day.
   So did Saddam Hussein   :-P

>
>                                        HOOK 'EM HORNS,

cmuck  


ps- I have a headache!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Organization: control_centers
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:54:51 GMT


In <laumorINNo75@cronkite>, andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp Metro SE) writes,

>In article <1992Sep10.215758.26591@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>>
>>By the way, I've never heard any Notre Dame fan seriously claim that
>>God cares especially whether the Irish win or not.  I think the "God's
>>team" label comes mostly from outside the university, not from inside it.
>>Of course, some of you may be consorting with a lower caliber of Notre
>>Dame fan than I do . . .

>When Lou Holtz implies devine intervention for wins........

Dan Devine has nothing to do with Lou's wins :-)  And as
for dIvine intervention, why don't you look at almost
any other player in any other sport - football players
who make the sign of the cross after a touchdown, before
kicking off, baseball players who do so before they bat,
and any player who says "I'd just like to thank God..."
in a post game interview.  Notre Dame _may_ be a 
football factory(tm), but I doubt that all these "holy" 
players are ND grads.  

Rob




-- 
There is no substitute for good manners, except, perhaps, fast reflexes.

robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com    GO IRISH, BEARS, BULLS, WHITE SOX, HAWKS, etc.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Oh, rilly??
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:54:07 GMT

In article <44737@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> s243ap@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Dean Roberts) writes:
> jrnf@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey R.N. Forbes) writes:
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Basically, the conclusion which can drawn from this game is:
>>  CAL SUCKS!!!! (always has and always will)
>

and, in a shocker, s243ap@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU responds:
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>That's certainly not the conclusion I draw.  


NO WAY!@!@!@!@ RILLY!@!@!@!@!@!@!@

ahhhh, modern technology, a world-wide .net so cal and staford can bicker
at each other. Hell, thats even worse than the virginia-virginia tech
bickering, which some .netters (not ME, I assure you) have taken part in.

rilly, i only do it cause techs such an easy target....

-r
From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal 14 v. Purdue 41
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:17:57 GMT
 <jrnf.716497200@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> <y7yn_0p.mzimmers@netcom.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <y7yn_0p.mzimmers@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
says:
>In article <jrnf.716497200@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> jrnf@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
>(Jeffrey
>R.N. Forbes) writes:
>
>>[Unimaginative anti-Cal woofing]
>
>Who is THIS jerk?  Always has -- yep, especially in the '20s, the late '30s,
>the last '40s, the mid '70s, and, more to the point, the past two years.
>Where did this clueless dork come from.
>
>>[Woofing about Big Game and next week vs. Northwestern]
>
>Anybody besides me see what's coming??  If I gave a rat's ass about
>this dweeb's posting, I'd keep it around to rub his nose in next week...

     Mike... Shh.  Take a deep breath.  Smile.  Trust me, the best response
when someone, say, vows to move to your town in the event of a loss, is to
grin and offer up the name of a good real estate agent later...

Go Cardinal
Brett
From: trice@brtph329.bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:38:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC

I am interested to see comparisons between what UVa and Tech Alumni
give back to the University.  While Tech didn't make and $$$ in bowls
for the past few years I am reasonably sure that Tech blows away UVa
in the area of Alumni gifts considering UVa's class of 92 is still
pounding the pavement while I (Tech class of 92) just sent in my first
gift to the University with the paperwork to have my employer match
that gift.

If UVa is going to bowls to make money, I must extend my sympathies to
you and Mr. Jefferson.


-- 
==========================================================
                      Tony R. Rice                      
         Systems Development Environment Support         
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From: jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (Jeff Mejia))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Conference realignments
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:48:42 GMT

Regarding the shifting of conferences and such, I believe that when the other
conferences see the receipts from the SEC championship game, there will be
serious discussions in order to get these "Superconferences" together.  The Big
10 (+1) anly needs one more team to be able to set up a similar cash cow for
the conference.  The reported take for the SEC championship game RIGHT NOW is a
cool $12 million, and that is only going to increase as the year goes on.  I
can't see many conferences ignoring that kind of money when so many athletic
programs are just struggling to stay out of red ink.
 
-- 
	Jeff Mejia         University of Florida   jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:20:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.141533.27682@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>In article <BuCpv8.9xC@ais.org> ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
>> 
>
>Regarding last year's performance of Elvis Grbac:
>
>> And one of those incomplete passes was simply thrown away.  I was 
>> expecting an intentional grounding call.  Basically, he completed 
>> all but one of his sincerely attempted passes. 
>
>Sincerely Attempted Passes!  I love it.  A new stat and a new
>acronym.
>
>Player                     Att     Compl.   SAP
>Elvis Grbac                 22       20      21
>
>I believe we must integrate this stat into the QB Rating formula.
>Please post QB rating for Elvis using the old formula and compare
>to the new formula.  In the meantime let me nominate Mr. Grbac
>for the 1991 ND/UM SAP Award.
>
>> Steve_Johnston@um.cc.umich.edu          NCAA Nat'l. Champs to be
>
>
>"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)

Hey, a throw-away is a throw-away.  :)



==================================================================
Steve Johnston                                Go Blue! 
ssj@ais.org                              Webber, Rose & Co. 1993
Steve_Johnston@um.cc.umich.edu          NCAA Nat'l. Champs to be
Bluefront@HeroMud II (Heroine)
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From: mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UT football...
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:36:51 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.


so how did the new offense look???  marginal at best.  true, it did have some sparks
but it still could not manage to score enough to win the game.  we need offense!  i
hope this team improves.  i don't think i can take another season of me bragging
about the HORNs and seeing this type of display.  can Gardere lead this offense??
i don't know but i hope that Johnny Mac redshirts Shea Morenz.  that way it will give
him an extra year to learn this new system.
the defense??  boy, do we miss Jeter, Patton, and Dronett (sp?).  i think we were
very lucky that Sleepy Robinson didn't play the second half...or should i say the
defense was very lucky!  it would have been total domination with Sleepy at the
helm.

just my thoughts...

mike

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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:49:31 GMT
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe

JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
> Come on, Ralph!  You are delusional if you think THAT had anything to do
> with Darrell "crooked mouth" Rogers getting the boot.  The numbers of
> crimes that his "student-athletes" committed back then, as well as the
> dependable losses to U of A, as well as his shitty teams after the Rose
> Bowl, were the cause of his demise.

     Darryl Rogers was 3-2 versus the University
of Arizona.  His departure had nothing to do with
any "crimes."  And he didn't even coach ASU in
the Rose Bowl.

     Was your posting meant as some kind of joke?
Surely you wouldn't make a serious posting about
a subject you obviously know nothing about.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Keywords: n
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:13:14 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production

Looks like my calling all conferences post needs to be taken more 
seriously.  We have reports on the radio that the University of 
Texas has agreed to join the Big 10, and the have been "confirmed
by the UT athletic dept."  
 
Can anyone in Big 10 country confirm this?  Where do you guys think
A&M will go?  SEC, Big 8, Big 10, Pac 10, WAC (*laugh, had to throw
that one in*)   :-)

cmuck
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Collingsworth
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:26:32 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

Where did Chris Collingsworth go to college?  Or did he?
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:49:16 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep11.122915.19311@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
>
>	I thought the game last night was incredibly entertaining. 
>Marshall Faulk deserves every award he gets, and probably a few that
>he won't. My question is why can't any team in the WAC play defense
>or is it that the offenses are that much superior. I enjoy to see
>scoring in games but if I watched that league consistently I may 
>become numbed by the whole thing. Any ideas?


  Yeah, pretty embarrassing defense for both teams- looked like a Jets-
Dolphins game :-)

  Too bad that BYU punt returner muffed the last kick- would have been
interesting to see if the Aztecs could hold BYU for one final drive.

  So why don't the Aztecs have their names on the back of their jerseys?
Are the school budgets for the State schools so bad that they can't 
afford personalized jerseys? :-)

  That Marshall Faulk guy sure looked awesome running at will against BYU.
Is he that good or is the BYU defense that bad?   They play UCLA on the 
26th, so that should be a good test for Faulk against a decent Pac-10 defense.

  Doug
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