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From: sjm@cocamrd.mel.cocam.oz.au (John Machin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove - last line ???
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:35:51 GMT
Organization: Co-Cam Computer Group, Oz

In article <1992Jul16.201057.6653@risky.ecs.umass.edu> batman@ganzer.ecs.umass.edu (Bruce Wayne) writes:
|
| Hi folks,
|              Does anyone know what Peter Sellers yells out at the
|end of the movie 'Dr.Strangelove'. I couldnt get it even after watching
|in 3 times, what with his strange accent!! It goes something like
|'I have a plan. The chair(?) ??????' and then the holocaust follows at
|the end of the movie. 

Vell, sie haff to haff a schoen ear for ein Cherman accent, nein??

I shouldn't be telling you this, but you're a good officer, Mandrake, and
you've a right to know:

My son and I replayed that part 3 times on the videotape last night, and
our combined impression is:

	I have a plan ... mein Fuehrer!! ... I can walk!!!

Hope this helps.

General comment: this has to be one of the classic movies of all time.
My son, who is aged 15, favours what I call "bug-zapper" movies like Alien*
and Predator*, and required much persuasion to watch a B&W movie that's over
25 years old, was totally rapt.

I did however have to explain the irony inherent in the recurrent playing
of "When Johnny comes marching home" during the B52 scenes.  Ah well, you
can't hope for everything.


|
|Thanks.

No problem. Just take care not to do anything to upset the
Coca-Cola Company.





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of dons, Quijote, they were wont to destroy useful windmills in the name of
dragomachy.  --  John Barth, "Giles Goat-Boy, or, The Revised New Syllabus"
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:39:57 -0400 
From: Peter Yung Chang <pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi (sp?) - Any fans out there?

I'm pretty sure Greta is British...

She also played in a movie/TV movie (not sure which) called Camille,
the story of La Traviata, in which she played the title role.  A truly
sad story, and excellent performance by Greta.

Yes, White Mischief was quite a film...
					
					peech

Peter Chang
Economics/Industrial Management
Carnegie Mellon University
<pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>



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From: AS.GGG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gwyn Gordon)
Subject: drunk driving in the movies?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:22:31 GMT

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My topic is drunk driving and the media...and I'm wondering which
movies have had ANY treatment of drinking and driving whatsoever. I
guess TV movies could be included in this -- but most of all, I just
need a list (off the top of your head is fine) of any movies you can
think of that make any reference to alcohol and automobiles.

Thanks in advance for your help -- and any further advice on other
good resources would be much appreciated!!!

Respond to:

gwyn.gordon@forsythe.stanford.edu
From: lb2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louis Blair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:15:46 GMT
	<Brw4L7.14p@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Jorge Diaz wrote:
>Well, for starters, they could have explained why oh why
>the T1000 was able to go back in time in a machine that
>only allows living things to pass through.

I wrote:
>I don't think it is necessary for a movie to explain details
>like this.  It is easy enough to come up with explanations
>on one's own.

Ulrich Schreglmann writes:
>Yeah. Just wrap a skin around him. On the other hand it
>would be hard to say then why they didn't do the same
>thing with advanced weapons.

This is a variation on the question for the first movie:  Why
didn't Skynet put a phased plasma rifle inside a kangaroo
and send it back for Arnold to use?  Numerous answers
have been proposed.  My favorite is to suppose that the
process of getting living material to take dead material
back in time is more complicated than a simple matter
of surrounding.  Perhaps it takes months of preparation
to properly link living tissue with a metal object so that
they both go back in time together.  With its defenses
crumbling, Skynet may have been in too much of a
hurry to bother with this.  Perhaps Skynet had a
fleshy rifle factory that was destroyed by the humans.
Another idea is that Skynet weapons depend on broadcast
power, not available in the past.  Some people have
suggested that Skynet may have been afraid of causing
too much disruption of the past time-line with technology
from the future.  Finally, some think that Skynet simply
thought that sending a weapon back was not necessary.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:39:14 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


in article <64103@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>Why didn't I like it?  The plot holes, the lack of continuity, the 
>fact that it *never should have happened*, and the fact that nothing's 
>changed just because they blew up all the files.

Jorge, one of us is missing something here (it _might_ be me, but
I think it's you).

Sky-Net was not built as a result of the arm being found, it was built
because of research on the chip that was found.  In T2 they left an
arm behind, but they melted the other arm _and_the_chip_.  Once
they had burned the papers, killed the drives with the files on them, and
melted the chip, that particular avenue of research is theoretically
dead.

As for you're saying that you didn't like the movie because it shouldn't
have happened at all, I don't have much sympathy here.  If you felt that
the first movie tied up all the lose ends, and there couldn't logically
be a second Terminator movie, then you shouldn't have gone to see it.

Otherwise, it's a little like going to a magic show and then complaining 
that the magician was just doing tricks, but didn't do any real magic.
-- 
    Brice Dowaliby         |    I may speak fluently, but 
(bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu)  |    I don't speak for Fluent
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Graham Greene
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:43:51 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <28040435@otter.hpl.hp.com> cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham) writes:
>This Gun for Hire (1942) (novel)
. . .
>This Gun for Hire (1983) (TV) (novel)

This list misses "The Human Factor".  According to the critics I've
read, however, missing "The Human Factor" is an excellent idea.  It
was, I believe, Otto Preminger's final film.  It got terrible reviews,
almost nobody went to see it, and it quickly disappeared from theaters.
The time frame of its release is early-80's, I think.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@ashby.cs.ucla.edu
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From: petersgj@cis9.b10.ingr.com (Gary J. Peters)
Subject: Re: Extra in James Bond Movies
Keywords: Bond, James Bond
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:08:55 GMT

>I just say For Your Eyes Only on WTBS and noticed that during the snow/
>motorcycle chase that a fast cut is made to a guy holding a wine glass at
>a picnic table.  I first noticed this same guy in the beach scene in The 
>Spy Who Loved Me where the Lotus drives out of the water.  He is also in
>the gondola driving scene in St. Mark's square in Moonraker.  
>
>My question: who is this guy?  Is he a friend of the producers or one of
>those in jokes by the director?
>
>-phil

I recall reading somewhere that this guy is a friend of Cubby Broccoli's.
I think this was in the The Official James Bond Handbook or some such. I
don't have it here at work but I'll check it out later and see if the
guy's name is in there.  My apologies if I'm the tenth person to answer
this.  

Gary Peters
Intergraph Corporation 
Huntsville, Alabama USA
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: t2 in b&w?
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:03:26 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

     Showtime (the cable channel) has been pushing its upcoming
premiere of "Terminator 2: Judgment Day."  That's no surprise,
as T2 was the biggest box-office hit of 1991, and it stars
Ah-nold Schwarzenegger, and it has lots of explosions and guns
and other things that cable audiences will certainly be looking
for.
     Now, Showtime likes to promote its upcoming movies by
flashing scenes from different movies in rapid succession,
MTV-style.  As I was glancing at one of these clips, I was struck
by the "dark" colors and lighting of T2, when compared to other
movies like "Thelma & Louise" or "Lionheart" or "Marked For
Death" or other action movies of today.
     It never occured to me before, but it seems as though James
Cameron deliberately filmed T2 so that much of the movie looks
as though it was filmed in black and white.  He uses a blue light
in all the night scenes of this movie, and this casts a cold,
metallic, "emotionless" light on everything.  It's an
interesting effect, as it adds to the "feel" of T2 - but I
wonder if this was also done as a way of getting movie
audiences to watch a black-and-white movie without even realizing
it.
     Glancing at key scenes from "Aliens" and "The Abyss," it
seems as though Cameron has been deliberately using a lighting
style that makes these color movies look like black and white.
The last stand of the Marines in "Aliens," for instance, is
filmed in a bright red glare to enhance the effect of these
scenes (red is traditionally an "emotional" color), as well as to
make the blue glow of the welding torches look better.  In
"The Abyss," the scenes by the poolside and (especially)
the underwater submarine battle are filmed in area so lacking
in light that the background glow of the ocean makes the
scenery (and the actors) look as though they were filmed in
black and white.
     Am I seeing something that isn't there - or is Cameron
playing tricks on audiences, and paying tribute to the
great black-and-white movies of old?
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From: mad9509@sc.tamu.edu (Mary A. Densmore)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Info about Glenn Ford
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:15:30 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station


If anyone knows the latest status of Glenn Ford and/or details of his hospital stay, please e-mail me.  If there's a newsgroup with this info, please point
me to it.
Thanks,
Mary Densmore
mad9509@sc.tamu.edu
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Deep Cover
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:12:51 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

charlesk@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Hak Kim) writes:

> Fabulous movie.  See it in the theatres if ya have a chance.  Even at
> $8, you won't feel cheated. 

I saw it last night and was just amazed at how much I enjoyed the movie.
The mood was great . . . dark, nasty, and morally ambiguous -- it was like
being back in the '70s era of black filmmaking again.  There was a lot
more suspense than in Alien 3 (which was the first half of the double-
feature at the theatre where I saw it) and I'd watch it again in a minute. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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Subject: Source?: coffee mugs w/studio logos
From: thompson@gumby.mgi.com
Date: 25 Jul 92 22:10:18 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

I didn' see this mentioned in the FAQ listing. I hope it's not too far off
the subject.

I'm looking for sources to buy coffee mugs with the logos of movie studios,
particularly Orion, United Artists and 7 Arts. (7 Arts? Somehow that doesn't
sound right. Oh well... you get the idea.)

If you e-mail me, I'll summarize to the group.

Thanks,
MOKO

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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: batman returns soundt
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:19:19 EST
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:

[ stuff about Batman Return's soundtrack same as Batman's.. ]

BB>No, Danny's just really repetitive 8->.  I like Elfman's scores, but they
BB>all have a certain sameness to them - it's not that he can't come up with
BB>anything new, it's that he seems to really like certain themes and can't
BB>get away from them.

I noticed that Elfman is repetitive too, although I still like
his soundtracks.  I have his CD 'Music for a Dark Night' (I think thats
the title, early morning...) which is a complilation of the music
he has done for movies, Jeez, I didn't know he did so many movies...
there's about 10 different movies on it.

If you do listen to it, you really here the similarities hearing one
theme after another...
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From: rob@chili.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: the fountainhead
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:40:36 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University


>>Is Gary Cooper's "The Fountainhead" available on home video?
> 
> Yep, sure is. ..

I think of this movie as the worst translation from book to film (edging
out Dune).
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Worst Movies (Beetle-Juice ?? I enjoyed it)
Keywords: Movies, Worst
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:49:49 GMT

In article <712295665@marlin.cs.duke.edu> malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra) writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.032131.1590@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> swalker@uts.EDU.AU (S Walker) writes:
>>I thought that 
>>  Hudson Hawk
>>& BeetleJuice
>>should go down in the annals of worst movies ever made
>
>I am surprised about "Beetle Juice". 

Not really, considering all the Burton-bashing going on.


>I thought it was a well-made horror-comedy 

I found it entertaining, especially in its first half. It was offbeat,
the imagery was striking, and the notion of a deceased couple watching
their home being taken over was an interesting one. It lost some of its 
charm later on (mainly because it didn't seem to know whether it wanted 
Keaton or Baldwin to be the star), but not enough to spoil the movie for 
me.


>and Michael Keaton is really good in this.

Unfortunately, his character seemed to belong in a different movie: his
actions didn't really fit into the story. As far as actors go, I'll take 
Keaton over Baldwin any day, but I found him more of a nuisance than anything 
else here. 

>I found it to be very funny, but then I have found horror-comedies
>to be very amusing !
>I would really like to know how others feel about this film.

There you have it.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: donm@intacc.uucp (Don McKellar)
Subject: Re: The Adjuster... (MEGA-HELLA SPOILER)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:51:42 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <1504bdINNf59@agate.berkeley.edu> peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:
>I just saw this film the past weekend, and I thought it was pretty
>good, if a little inaccessible...
>
>What I want to know is, what do people make of the ending... When
>the man's house is burning, he starts staring at his hand. And then
>there's a cut to him being an adjusters for his wife and her sister as
>their house burned. At first I thought it was just a weird cut, as
>if he was imagining he'd have to play the adjuster for their own 
>family now that the house is in flames. Then I thought that maybe he
>had met his wife and her sister working as an adjuster for them...Which
>do you think is more plausible...

Right the second time.  

You may have noticed that the house in the final shot was a different
house on a different street (Noah's house throughout the movie was, as
you will probably recall, in the middle of nowhere).  But the big give-
away clue was the baby that Hera (the adjuster's wife) held in her arms.  
The boy was seen to be about four years old in the body of the movie.  
So, yes, it was a flashback.

I can guaranty that this was the director's intention.
I'm pretty close to the source on this one.

>Also, what's the significance of looking at the hand?
>--Peter M.

I think I could work up a pretty good riff about the hand business
but I think I'll let you off easy this time.

donm.

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From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: The Fountainhead casting
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
In-reply-to: ahsiung@bbn.com's message of 29 Jul 1992 06:34:37 GMT
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 06:02:18 GMT

In article <l7cevtINNklc@news.bbn.com>, ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:

> Grown-up Winona Ryder as Dominique
> Sean Connery as Cameron
> Alec Baldwin as Keating

> My brother and I would have liked to see a young Elizabeth Taylor as
> Dominique, but oh well...  We couldn't come up with a good Roarke.  I
> think the rest of the cast should be easier (Dominique's father, etc.)

I got a wacky, off-beat sort of idea.  Let's do this
one a little different:  Let's put Tom Hanks in as
Roarke, and Melanie Griffith as Dominique ... wait,
is that just too fantastic ... well, maybe not ... 

But seriously folks, I could see Richard Dreyfus as Roarke.
I can see Dustin Hoffman as anybody.  But my first choice
is maybe:  How about Michael Dorn?
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From: haapamak@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Fried Green Tomatoes
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:03:51 GMT




        Hi!

        Who wrote the original novel that Fried Green
        Tomatoes is based on ??

       Thanks, Hanna

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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: HONEY, I BLEW UP THE KID
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:24:20 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <974MBCCN@cc.swarthmore.edu> hpouncy1@cc.swarthmore.edu writes:
>Well, I finally got an answer to my question on the giant baby's
>bathroom habits.  In a Newsweek review, David Ansen writes,
>"Director Kleiser and screenwriters Eberhardt, Elbling and Goodrow
>see to it that this potentially nightmarish situation stays
>benign by making Adam himself cheerfully oblivious to his
>altered state....and the filmmakers tactfully resist the
>temptation to indulge in any Brobdingnagian bathroom humor
>(Think of what John Waters could have done with this!)"
>
>I don't know, is this tactfulness or a movie error by omission?

Oh, they were tempted. The babysitter makes at least two
jokes about changing diapers. Mercifully, they dropped that
theme.

Of course, movie characters seldom need to void their
bladders or move their bowels, just as they can save the
entire world without eating a meal or taking a nap, unless
the story demands it for other reasons.

-- 
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: favorite movie musicals
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:46:42 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <1992Jul23.093142.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>Ah, one other one of my favorites...but the name is escaping me... it was the
>musical version of "the Philadelphia Story" and starred Bing Crosby, Grace
>Kelly and Frank Sinatra and Louis Armstrong... some of the great songs were: 
>True Love, You're Sensational, Did you eva'
>
>SOMEBODY must remember the name of this movie!
>

HIGH SOCIETY. A very enjoyable film, but not a great film
(certainly not when compared the original).

The songs are among the last things Cole Porter wrote (his
last film, I think). It was also Grace Kelly's last acting
job. I liked "You're Sensational" and the funny "Who Wants
to be a Millionaire" sung by Frank Sinatra and Celeste Holm
among the lavish display of wedding gifts. Satchelmouth did
"Now You Has Jazz." Also in the cast Louis Calhern and
Sidney Blackmer; Calhern is particularly fine as the
pixilated uncle.

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:20:42 GMT

In article <91581@bu.edu>, antoniou@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou) writes:
> Watching this flick again...  
> 
> In the end when the Liquid-Metal-Terminator (LMT), the Terminator,  the chip,
> and the arm were melted...  and they said all is destroyed....  SURPRISE!!!

Wait a minute.  Are you saying there's some kind of flaw in T2?
Are you saying that they forgot to melt the arm?  What are you getting at?

Hey, let's start a new thread!

GMS
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN (Spoilers)
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:20:42 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

In article <834@nazgul.UUCP> bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright) writes:
> 
> In this film, we are subjected yet again to the *oldest* most worn-out
> cliche of sports movies. That is, the "big game" at the end.
> 
> The star player leads the team on into the finals, with victory after
> victory. Then, in the Big Game at the end, the star player either
> cannot play or is disabled somehow. The team starts losing badly.
> Around half-time, the star player either reappears or becomes 
> re-enabled, and the team makes a comeback, winning by *one* point in the 
> final second of the game.
> 
> I have just described the plot of nearly every sports movie, including
> this one. Ug.

    You did? Are you sure we saw the same movie. Who was the star player
in this movie? It sounds like you are talking about Football games more
than you are about BaseBall, and certainly more than you are about A
League of Their Own. If the above was all you got out of the move, oh
well, but that isn't even close to what I saw on the screen. I'm not
saying that it was devoid of cliche elements, only the ones that you
happen to mention above as being "the plot of nearly every sports
movie".

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