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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:24:43 -0400 
From: Amit Likhyani <al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Webster Slaughter holdout will be LOOOONG

[Teams that might want Webster Slaughter]

How about the Steelers?

From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:21:04 GMT
Subject: Re: 49ers/Giants
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>(Bob Marshall) /  7:00 pm  Sep  6, 1992 /
>The 49ers opened the season with a convincing 31-14 victory over the
>New York Giants in New Jersey. If this game is indicative of the way
>the 49ers are going to play this season, then they are going to the
>Super Bowl.

'9ers fans' optimism should be tempered a bit by the fact that the
Giants are clearly a team in decline.  The real test will come next week
against Buffalo.  But the outstanding play of young '9ers including RB
Ricky Watters and Brown, Roberts, Johnson and Davis on defense
augurs well not only for the team's success this year but f the next few
years.  If this continues, theNiners will surely avoid the steep decline
that followed the Packer and Steeler dynasties.  Maybe the current team
management isn't so bad after all - we seem to be doing better with
Seifert as Walsh's successor than the Giants are with Handley succeeding
Parcells.

As for the QB "controversy", the game only proved that you can't have
too many good quarterbacks on the roster.  I'm sure Al Davis would love
to have the 'Niners "problems" at QB - we have *four* quarterbacks
better than Jay Schroeder!! :^)

- Gary Rosen
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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Subject: Re: Dallas/Skins Wrapup + *icednotes*
Reply-To: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:56:53 GMT

In article <18oarsINNn08@news.aero.org>, mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
|>Helllllooooooo Dallas Fans and Haters!
|>
|>THE BEST:
|>
|>* Harper was phenomenal.  Just to get his hands on 
|>the ball that he dropped in the end zone was terrific,
|>and he almost made the catch.  Then there was the
|>sideline play he made!!!  Catch of the year.... in 
|>week #1!!!  Forget Ace Wright.  Forget J.Smith's
|>development.  If Irvin and Harper stay healthy, they 
|>won't see the light of day.  Kmart will still catch
|>on third down.....
|>
    Are you saying that Ace Wright will not crack the lineup ?
    Or are you saying that Ace is good Trade bait.   Ace is 
    still good at returning kickoffs, when they are not booted out
    of the endzone.  
    
|>
|>* Kelvin Martin... need I say more?  Well maybe I will.
|>He was one of the top punt returners at BC his senior
|>year (3rd in the nation).  When he made the Cowboys, I
|>was happy to see him on return duty and knew it would 
|>take him a year or two to settle into the return scheme.
|>Then, the Boys put Sheppard back there and Martin didn't
|>return kicks again until last year.  Now he's is back into
|>the swing of things and should be a good one for
|>quite a while....sweetness

    Kmart appears to better quickness and speed than 
    last year.   Is it me or do I need glasses.   

|>THE WORST:
|>
|>* Aikman was very bad (for Aikman), and we all knew
|>that those int's were coming from the 80% ducks he
|>was throwing.  He had the wobblers making it to the
|>target, but most of the time he was off to the point
|>where the receiver had to help him out.  It just takes
|>too long for the ball to get there when it doesn't spiral
|>and INT's like the last one will happen.  I heard the 
|>ball was slippery.... and he didn't do that during the 
|>preseason so I assume he just had an off game.  If that
|>result was an off game...... just think sportsfans...
|>The types of passes he threw well tends to support the
|>slippery ball theory.
|>

    I was there.   It was hot and humid in the Stadium.  The
    Morning newspapers said that Aikman asked Frank Cornish,
    the Center, to change out of his wet pants.   They even had
    Cornish stand by the big Fans on the sideline to dry out in
    between offensive series.   Give Aikman some credit.  I think
    he played well not great, but within himself and composed. 
    The balls were slick out there.   Lets see how he does in Moo 
    York.
    

|>
|>OTHER
|>
|>
|>* The crowd noise was phenomenal, where did these 
|>guys get their lungs ALL OF A SUDDEN????
|>
    The crowd played the 12th man role.  That was the loudest
    crowd at Texas Stadium.   Hope the trend continues for the
    other Home games.

|>*ice*
                                                                        
    Nice summary *ice*.





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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Early Scores Update ...
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:44:32 GMT

Sunday, 13 September - EARLY GAMES
 
        Dallas          27                      Minnesota        3
    H   NY Giants        0                  H   Detroit         17
 
        Green Bay        0                      Chicago          6
    H   Tampa Bay       17                  2   New Orleans      0
 
        Atlanta         14                      Seattle          7
    H   Washington      21                  2   Kansas City     13
 
        LA Raiders      14
    H   Cincinnati      14


The last Atlanta score was an 89-yd TD pass, Miller to Haynes, Darrell Green
haven fallen down.

Third quarter underway ...


Bob - that's what Atlanta did with their ONLY offensive first down of the half

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From: bsmith@serverx.osf.org (Bruce Smith)
Subject: Re: Moron
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:11:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.014238.11411@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>In Article 28194, Tony Bechtold rambles
>> ... blah blah blah...
>> All the rest can't cut it against the strong NFC defenses.  The
>> mighty Bills have proven this the last two years.
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Funny how two years ago the Giants LOST to the Bills in the regular
>season. Even funnier is how the Giants played at home.
>If you weren't such a moron you would've known that the Bills 
>were favored to win because of that and they lost because 
>their offense chocked, they missed the game winning field goal.

Even funnier is that every time I watch my tape of the Bills-NYG SB, the
Giants win, displaying some pretty good all-around play in the process. Sure,
Norwood missed the long FG, but that's hardly an excuse.

>
>As for last year... the Bills were plagued by injuries and lost
>to a better team. But if the Bills were healthy things 'might' 
>have been different.

Seemed to me that the Bills simply lost to a better team, and believe me, I was
rooting for them against the hated Skins.

>They played a hard schedule because they were in the Super Bowl the
>year before, so they made it back but it was hard and took a lot
>out of the team.
>As for the Redskins, the yhad a cake schedule because they were 
>wimps the year before. I bet this year they get hammered.

A *cake* schedule? Why not admit they were the best team last year and leave it
at that? Boy, some of the forty-whiner fans could learn a thing or two from you!

>
>If San Fran does anything it's because of their easy schedule,
>they weren't even a playoff team last year.

Well, teams do improve, don't they? Sometimes they go from being non-playoff
teams to playoff teams, wouldn't you say? Or are the Bills the only NFL team
really worth anything? Tell you what -- whoever wins it all this year's gonna
have done it the hard way, just as each year's champ does. 
>
>--
>Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)


Bruce Smith




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From: merrill@stsci.edu (Clark)
Subject: Re: Moron
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:52:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.014238.11411@math.ucla.edu>, rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:

> As for the Redskins, the yhad a cake schedule because they were 
> wimps the year before. I bet this year they get hammered.
> 
Yeah, they played a wimpy 12 games out of 19 against teams that won 10 or
more games.  Of course they only won 10 of them.  Talk about wimpy!

Clark B. Merrill                        A Life Long Redskins Fan!
Space Telescope Science Institute
Baltimore, Maryland
merrill@stsci.edu
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From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Subject: Re: New Cowboys
Keywords: Haley
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:14:38 GMT

In article <1aoeoq8@Unify.Com>, tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep09.141320.427@bnr.ca> patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power) writes:
|> >  The Dallas newspaper stated that Haley is a free agent after this year.
|> >SF eliminated the final year of his contract in an effort to appease him 
|> >last offseason.  That's why we got him so cheap, we were leasing not buying. :)
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> >Other news:  Casillas should be available, Maryland -- maybe/maybe not.  Emmitt
|> >trails Terry Allen (vikings) in the race for rushing title.  Cleveland stole
|> >OG Myslinksi off the 'Boys practice squad.  Myslinski was the last of four
|> >OL drafted by Dallas this year.  2 were cut, Milstead was traded to the Browns.
|> 
|> How does someone get stolen off the practice squad, doesn't dallas have to
|> put him thru waivers first?

     They do have to go through waivers after the 47 man cut. Once they are
 placed on the practice squad, any team can sign them, but the player has to
go on the new teams active roster.
     Cleveland did not break any written rules...
|> --
|> Tim Vannaman, Premium Technical Support Engineer   Phone: (916) 928-6433
|> Unify Corporation, Sacramento, California    Fax: (916) 928-6403
|> tsv@unify.Com  or  {{ucdavis,csun,lll-crg}!csusac,pyramid,sequent}!unify!tsv
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From: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Subject: Re: Cowboys beat Redskins: 23-10
Reply-To: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 13:05:53 GMT

As far as I am saw Alexander Wright had one fuck of a game, and was a
major factor in Dallas' O dominating ( Line aside ).  That catch he
made going out of bounds has increadable, and it surprised me they
didn't say incomplete.

shaun
From: Mark_Ward@mindlink.bc.ca (Mark Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steelers win at Houston!
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:13:09 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

The steelers were lucky!  A good start but the rest of the season will hurt the
steelers.  I expect Houston to win the division.  Good luck next century!
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From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Subject: Re: Two Great Plays (was Re: Cowboys 23, Redskins 10)
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:26:15 GMT

In article <18l3i1INN8kf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jjs11@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph J. Shen) writes:
>
>I was nervously sweating out the MNF game lying on my beanbag on my living
>I don't remember Emmitt Smith being that much of a cut-back type
>runner as he showed Monday night (ala Barry Sanders);  am I wrong in
>thinking that he's mostly a juker?
>
>GO COWBOYS!!!!!
>-- 
>                                           
>				           Joe
>				     jjs11@po.cwru.edu

I've always considered Emmitt a hole-popper.  There are one or
two highlights you see over and over that show Emmitt "juking,"
but more often people just mystically glance off of him -- like
the touchdown run Monday night.  He's mister balance and mister
vision.  In my house we thank God for Emmitt before every meal.

I only wish Steve Spurrier and Emmitt could have hit Florida
at the same time.

In Emmitt's name, Amen.

Gators/Cowboys/Youknowwho

Andy
From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Mo. Carthon
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:33:35 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

In article <1992Sep9.154618.21297@europa.asd.contel.com> (Brian) writes:
>
> Maurice Carthon ... has proven he 
>can catch the ball and run when given the opprtunity...

Since he came to the Giants in 1986, he has never shown that he could catch the
ball *consistently*. I have vivid memories of him dropping the easy pass.

>I can't believe the 
>Giants left him unprotected in Plan B.. he's still a solid player...

He is probably the best blocking back in the league - still.  However, that's
about all he was good at with the Giants and Handley (in his divine wisdom)
apparently didn't think that was enough.
---
         Larry Simmons                           larry@aecom.yu.edu
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From: msanfrat@cs.ucsd.edu (Mike Sanfratello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills are underdogs
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:22:41 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <1992Sep11.155253.27765@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!  Why is it that practically all knowledgable
>football sportcasters, Vegas, coaches, etc., have picked the
>Niner's as favorites?  Because they are a better football team,
>that is why.  Even if they lose, the media will call it an upset!

Usually the home team starts off with ~3pt spread - the spread is ~3pts here,
I'd call it even...

mike
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: my season predictions...
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:26:51 GMT

    I wont bother to justify my picks... most likely it would take to
long, and by the end of the season, any pre-season 'analysis' will be
worthless because of all the changes during the season...

   Anyway, here is what I think will happen - 


                 NFC                           AFC

EAST    : Philadelphia   (13-3) +         Miami             (11-5) +
          Washington     (11-5) *         Buffalo           (10-6) *
          Dallas         (10-6) *         N.Y. Jets          (9-7) *
          N.Y. Giants     (8-8)           New England       (6-10)
          Phoenix        (5-11)           Indianapolis      (5-11)

CENTRAL : Detroit        (10-6) +         Houston           (12-4) +
          Chicago        (10-6) *         Cleveland          (7-9)  
          Minnesota       (8-8)           Pittsburgh        (6-10) 
          Green Bay      (5-11)           Cincinatti        (3-13)  
          Tampa Bay      (5-11)          

WEST    : San Francisco  (11-5) +         Kansas City       (11-5) +
          New Orleans    (10-6)           L.A. Raiders      (10-6) *  
          Atlanta         (9-7)           Denver             (7-9)  
          L.A. Rams      (5-11)           San Diego         (4-12)
                                          Seattle           (3-13)
 
            + = division winner      * = wild card team
                 Super Bowl: Philadelphia 34 Miami 13

Playoff Scenario: 

First Week       : Chicago at Detroit           N.Y. Jets at Kansas City
                   Dallas at Washington         L.A. Raiders at Buffalo

Second Week      : Washington at San Francisco  Buffalo at Houston
                   Detroit at Philadelphia      Kansas City at Miami

Conference Finals: Washington at Philadelphia   Miami at Houston

Superbowl        : Philadelphia vs Miami
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______________________________________________________________________________
|rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu           Ross Smith              smith@oscar.udel.edu|
|    "I really hate that dog...." - Dr. Chase Matthews, Pet Semetary 2       |
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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Deion back with the Falcons 
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:39:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.181546.4175@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> msb2f@csissun8.ee.Virginia.EDU (Michael Scott Brown) writes:
>I was watching Sportscenter this morning and they broke in with the message
>that Deion signed with the Falcons today, but there were no more details.
>
Neon Deion will play against the Redskins.  Evidently, he'll play
baseball at night and football by day (this was an aside made by a DC
sports caster).  

schalene

Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:49:35 -0400 
From: "Joseph E. Beck" <jb8n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: When Walker fails (Re: If Walker should fail.)
	<1992Sep9.133006.18278@hemlock.cray.com>


>Herschel's 114 yards in his Philly debut is his best performance since his
>Vikings debut.
>
>Terry Allen, Herschel's replacement in MN, was 12 carries for 140 yards.
>
>Part of my earlier criticism of Walker was his lack of consistency.  Take
>his 26 carries for 114 yards (4.38 ave).  Subtrack his 33 yard run and it's
>25 for 81 (3.24 ave).  Terry Allen was 12 for 140 (11.6 ave).  Take out
>his two longest runs (of 45 and 51 yards) and he was still 10 for 44 
>(4.4 ave). (Not to mention Allen's better receiving stats.)

While Walker played against the  Saints defense (ranked #2 last year),
Terry Allen had to go up against that vaunted Green Bay defense.
Sorry, you're comparing apples and oranges.

	joe
From: thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bengals 24 - Raiders 21
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:26:34 GMT
    <1992Sep13.202013.14217@PacBell.COM>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

i said it last week, I'll say it this week...




DEE-FENSE DEE-FENSE.

  Again the defense won the game.  The offense just out and out sucks
(excluding Fenner who is incredible and reminds me of Pete Johnson and
Icky Woods).  But, the passing game *sucks* and I think that Esiason
is just chicken of throwing an INT so won't throw the long ball.

  BUT THE DEFENSE, is *great*.  I thought we were screwed when Bently
had to leave the game but, they *still* came through.  And *finally*
the special teams did some work and recovered a fumble.. :)

  One other aside.... Marvelous Marv Albert and Parcells were horrible
sportscasters.  They had no idea what was going on the entire game.  A
little more research would have made it better game..


Alex


p.s. Here we come Cleveland... think you can beat dinky miami??? :)
From: johna@psdcae1.gvg.tek.com (John Abt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Haley back to form?
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:41:05 GMT
Reply-To: johna@psdcae1.gvg.tek.com (John Abt)
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

Maybe the honeymoon is over for Charles Haley in Dallas.
It was reported in the San Francisco Chronicle that
Haley walked up to Troy Aikman in the Cowboy's locker-
room and told him that he "couldn't carry Joe Montana's
jock strap".

Ah yes, vintage Charles.

John Abt
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Niner's look good (IMHO)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:15:18 GMT

Well, the first game is over and the Niner's Defense and
Offense looked good against the N.Y. Giants. Final score,
49er's 31 - Giants 14. Bono came in and took over after Young 
and a concussion.

Rathman scored three TD's on passes (1 from Young, 2 from
Bono).  Watters looked truly awesome.  He has some great
moves.  The Defense scored a TD when Johnson had a INT
and ran it in.

I realize this is only the FIRST game of the season, but if
the Niner's continue, they will be unstoppable.  The Giants
looked truly out of synch.  It is hard to tell if this is
due to their inability or SF's defense and pressure on Simms.

Bono was able to spread the ball around to Taylor and Rice.
I am surprised Brent Jones was not used.  I don't remember
Jones catching a ball or even had a ball thrown at him.
I guess the Giants were covering him pretty good.  However,
the Niner's had too many offensive weapons to be stopped
effectively. 
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