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From: kjell@emke.chalmers.se (Kjell Siimon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Traditional Swedish Christmas song
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:40:58 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.nordic
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <WD.92Dec16115327@sam.cs.tu-berlin.de>, wd@cs.tu-berlin.de
(Wolfgang Diestelkamp) wrote:

> I just happened to listen to an audio cassette called "god jul"
> (text on the tape is German), that my sons got from IKEA here.

Yes!
IKEA is very well conected to Swedish Christmas celebrating.
All over Sweden there are advertisments from IKEA claiming that:

"This year, Father Christmas comes from Smoland"

(Smoland = Little Land, the part of Sweden where IKEA once was founded).
So, if it wasn't for IKEA we shouldn't have any Christmas.
One more thing about Father Christmas:

There are three stages in a mans life-
1 He belives in Father Christmas
2 He don't belive in Father Christmas
3 He IS Father Christmas

May your wallet be with you!


Kjell the Brave
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: tonypaso@polaris.utu.fi (Tony Matti Juhani Paso)
Subject: Re: The Swedenfinn seek official support from Finland
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:02:18 GMT


>In Nazi-Germany they killed people who didn't speak German, in Sweden we
>just laugh at them ...:-)

>- Henrik Jonsson aka. d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se

Why do you in Sweden laugh at people who don't speak German? :-)
Doesn't make much sense. 

Tony.
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:36:33 EST
From: <2971047@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Want to learn to read and speak Norwegian. Recommendations?

Nope Jon,
there is no "CNN Norwegian".  There are also no short cuts.  I think you'll
find learning Norwegian a real challenge.  Unless, of course, you're familiar
with Germanic languages.

Here I am trying to discourage a poor American soul who *really* shows some
great initiative.  Not so.  Go for it.  Slang and dialects are part of the
reason why learning another language is so much fun.  _I_ think.  With great
risk of provoking fellow citizens, I'll make a recommendation: Don't go for
the "Oslo" dialect.  It's boring, dull, and has no personality.  No culture
involved, if you know what I mean?

The best way to learn is to go over and practise.  The real Vikings are
found north of "Saltfjellet" (Salt-Mountain).  That's also where you find
real culture, humor, and super-friendly people.  They know how to have a
good time up there; and if you don't, they'll show ya'..

Swearing, for example, becomes an artform when you pass a certain
lattitude..  Nightlife too.  To translate this into American terms for you,
Jon: Would you rather live in D.C. or in S. Kentucky?  If you chose the former,
you totally missed the point.  Your best bet: stay in California and go
dancin' with the dudes from San Diego.  It's OK, but there is no culture
involved.  Get it?  Surprise me!  Show me what an American with ancestors
from Ski (wrong side of that mountain..) can do.

Substitute some of that Californian sun with some aurora borealis..

We call it "nordlys"
                                  See ya' where the sun never sets,

                                  100% prime time "NORDLENDING"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: chad@ithil.enet.dec.com (Chad Leigh)
Subject: Re: Human Right of the Finns of Sweden in danger.
Reply-To: chad@ithil.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Munich Germany
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:52:35 GMT


--
I had vowed to stay out of this, but...

What do the finns of sweden think themselves?  Are they demonstrating
and asking for bilingualism?  So far, we only see a Finn from
Finnland complaining (on the net).  I guess my point is,
do the Finnish speakers in Sweden perceive this as a problem?

(Is there some swedish plot to keep them off the net :-)?

Chad

-------------------------------------------------------
Chad Leigh                         | I don't speak
Digital Equipment GmbH             | for DEC and they
Munich, Germany			   | don't speak
Originally from Pepperell, MA, USA | for me
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Subject: (no subject given)
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:13:29 EST
From: <2971047@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic

Point of clarification: I did not intend to insult anyone with any of my
postings.  My sincere apologies to anyone who feels that was NOT the case..
However, I did hope to "set off a few reactions".  -Appears I was quite
successful..
                         Merry Christmas to all,

                         gp
From: hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Traditional Swedish Christmas song
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:08:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <nkjrm.84@taxus.uib.no> nkjrm@taxus.uib.no (Rolf Manne) writes:


>Smaa grodorna is part of the Swedish "Dans kring granen" (Dance 
>around the Christmas Tree) activity. Many of these songs and dances have
>nothing to do with Christmas, but this is the time of the year when you
>do this.

But how long has Grodorna been a Xmas "tradition"?  I've never associated it 
with Xmas; one was likely to encounter it at parents' day in kindergarten, 
or in children's programs on radio/TV (regardless of season) - at least in 
svenskfinland.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: elster@cs.cornell.edu (Anne C. Elster)
Subject: Re: Traditional Swedish Christmas song
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:35:10 GMT

In article <nkjrm.84@taxus.uib.no> nkjrm@taxus.uib.no (Rolf Manne) writes:
> ...
>Norwegians don't dance around the Christmas tree, they walk, singing
>hymns, in particular "Glade jul" (Stilla natt, Silent night). There is
>only one non-religious Christmas song that Norwegian children know: "Paa
 ^^^^^^^^
>laaven sitter nissen" (The alve sits in the barn with his
>Christmas porridge, so good and sweet..).


Hmmmm ... I seem to remember a few others: "Saa gaar vi rundt om en
enerbaerbusk ..." (This is what we do walking around an evergreen
bush ..) -- well, it does have the part about going to church on Sundays,
but I'm sure one can substitute "church" w/ "park" or smth. :-)

Then there is also the song that goes smth like "Den gamle nissen satt
saa trist paa loven julekveld .." (The old nisse was sitting in the
hayloft being ever so sad... ) I always felt so sad when hearing these
lines as a kid...  Finally, Per Asplin and Alf Proeysen also have some
"non-religious" songs that come to mind ("Naa er det jul igjen", "Musevisa",
etc). I'm sure there are others.  If you're picky, these latter still
are religious in that they mention the word "jul" (x-mas), albeit not
necessarily connecting it with the religious event.

 	We admittedly do not sing about frogs, though. ;-)

						Anne C. Elster
elster@cs.cornell.edu
From: wilf@niksula.hut.fi (Johan W. Wikman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Finnish Defense
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:18:06
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
NNTP-Posting-Host: blob.cs.hut.fi
In-reply-to: ryyti@jyu.fi's message of Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:29:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.062903.13623@jyu.fi> ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
   [...]
   : >  The danger is the 5th colonna of Finlandswedes. 
	What should we do with them?
   [...]

   In Sweden the finnish-speking conscripts have to serve in swedish speaking
   [...]
   from Swden, at least it is boasted so, why not this thining too.

This was not at all what I was asking you about. I would specifically
like to have a comment on "The danger is the 5th colonna of Finlandswedes".

   [...]
   regards,
   jarmo ryyti
   en finnj{vel

Johan Wikman
--
wilf@niksula.cs.hut.fi
Johan Wikman

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: Re: Dementia spreading in Social Democratic Party
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:57:07 GMT

Heikki T. Suopanki (suopanki@stekt2.oulu.fi) wrote:
: >>>>> On 15 Dec 92 00:44:10, tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist) said:
: 
: ryyti> Comrade (*) U.Sundquist is an upper class finlandswede 
: 
: another example of Jarmo Ryyti's "facts"...
: 
: Tor> Hmm, are you sure about this? Isn't "Uffe" from Sibbo/Sipoo?  His last
: Tor> name at least doesn't indicate any "upper class" connections, like,
: Tor> say Ehrnrooth or Donner. 
: 
: His family was poor and his father was a construction worker.

I was writing "is an upper-class finlandswede", not "was an upper-class"....

However knowing Comrade U.Sundquist' background better now, I understand
more his problems. Has anyone his address, so that I could send some
humanitarian aid to him his xbank which he destroyed. He even had to give
up the money he got with a golden handshake because of the protests.
I feel pity for him. I hope the others are not too hard-hearted towards
him either.
Regards,
jarmo ryyti

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: tonypaso@polaris.utu.fi (Tony Matti Juhani Paso)
Subject: Re: Dementia spreading in Social Democratic Party
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 01:10:17 GMT

mtf@saha.hut.fi (dalens ande) writes:

>In article <1992Dec14.100255.6045@jyu.fi> ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>>Bob Hammarberg (hberg@polisci.umn.edu) wrote:

>>Comrade (*) U.Sundquist is an upper class finlandswede who is a member
>>of Finland's Social Democratical Party ("a worker's party"), who has never
>>done real work, if making politics is not considerd as real work,

> Ulf Sundqvist is not an "upperclass finlandswede", you idiot, he comes
>from the working class (and from quite poor conditions at that). Don't think
>I'm an admirer of his because of that; it just happens to be a fact.
>--I

I wouldn't think it was unfair to call Mr. Sundqvist upperclass. Does it
really matter what class little Ulf was born into? It just happens to
be a fact that today and for the past couple of decades Sundqvist has
drawn such a income, that he most certainly is as upperclass as you
can get.

Furthermore, wouldn't it be appropriate that the s.c. working class
disowned Ulf. After what he did to Suomen TY\V[EN S{{st|pankki, I
don't think he's keeping much noise about his working class
background.

Tony.   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: sastoen@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Susan Stoen)
Subject: Re: Want to learn to read
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:18:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

>                       I think your best bet will be the books "Norsk
>for utlendinger" (Norwegian for foreigners). These are aimed at adult
>immigrants.


There is an excellent series by Gerd Manne.  The first set (text and
work book) is called 'Ny i Norge'.  I can't remember the name of
the second set right now.  

Sons of Norway is based in Minneapolis, MN.  They are in the phone-
book.  I think that they sell these texts.  They also have a 
fine selection of other text and audio courses (NOTE:  I am not
an agent of Sons of Norway).  A good bookstore in your area
may also order these texts for you.

--Sue Stoen          email:sastoen@lamar.colostate.edu

P.S.  Enjoy your lutefisk and lefse on Christmas!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: d89-jsp@nada.kth.se (Jan Sparrendahl)
Subject: Re: program about Finland/Sweden
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: soc.culture.nordic
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 21:37:21 GMT

In article <hberg.261@polisci.umn.edu>, hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg) writes:
|> In article <AFORSTEN.92Dec8150601@aton.abo.fi> aforsten@aton.abo.fi (Annika Forsten INF) writes:
|> >In the (late?) 16th century about 20% of the population in Stockholm was 
|> >Finnish (where did these disappear to?).
|> Assimilation is the reasonable answer; genocide is the unreasonable one.  
|> Wasn't a large portion of Stockholm's population German in the 16th cent?

	Maybe they did not assimilate. I have heard that before
	the suage systems there were a net inflow of people in 
	the cities and there were a great over-mortality caused
	by epidemics. Few urban families had urban traditions.
	Thus a finnish minority could only be withheld with as
	long as there is a large inflow of finnish people.
	As for the germans I'm sure that you have heard of the
	vitalie murders an the special laws for protecting swedes
	and all that.
								Arthur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: mbfarah@isluga.puc.cl (Miguel B. Farah)
Subject: mitologia iberica, busco informacion
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:05:14 GMT

Hola otra vez! Quiero hacer un pedido: 

HAY ALGUN DOCUMENTO ASEQUIBLE VIA INTERNET (preferentemente como texto en
algun lugar de ftp anonimo) QUE TRATE SOBRE LA MITOLOGIA IBERICA???
Hasta la fecha mis conocimientos sobre el tema no pasan del nivel mas ba-
sico (los nombres de algunos dioses y que se supone que hacian) y llevo
an~os buscando material. Ahora que he salido de vacaciones, tengo tiempo
sufi para atender a esto (llevo mucho tiempo posponiendolo).

De antemano, gracias.

--
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From: fzurdo@CRONO.TEB.UPM.ES (Fernando Zurdo Robledo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: viaje a Madrid
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:09:40 -0600
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Fernando Zurdo Robledo <fzurdo@CRONO.TEB.UPM.ES>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



Hola Susan:
 La verdad es que si me lei tu e-mail respecto a la comunicacion entre tus estud
   iantes
(y quizas tu tambien) y un espaniol. La razon de no contestarte antes es que he
   estado
algo ocupado planificando mmi Proyecto Fin de Carrera y no sabia si iba a dispon
   er de
tiempo para mantener un contacto fluido e interesante para tus estudiantes.
 Ciertamente me encantaria estar en contacto con vosotros y trasmitiros mis opin
   iones
respecto de la cultura espaniola o cualquier cosa que os interesase.
 Por lo tanto, y en la medida de mis posibilidades (temporales,etc.), estoy disp
   uesto
a comunicar con vosotros.
 A mi tmbien me gustariaambien me gustaria escribir algo en ingles para no perde
   r lo poco que aprendi
cuando estuve en USA. Supongo que no te importara mucho. Yo tambien estoy intere
   sado
en profundizar en cualquier aspecto de la cultura americana.
 Hasta pronto. Un abrazo.
                          Fernando
From: talkasey+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tamara S. Al-Kasey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Ref: nomes
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:41:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.of_EgZe00iV283oFME
Distribution: world
Organization: Modern Languages Program, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Josep innocently says: <<I don't believe I have insulted you in any
way.>> Please keep in mind that insult is in the mind of the insulted. 
Perhaps you meant "I didn't intend to insult you, If I did, please
forgive me."  
 If we remain conscious that what we say may in fact insult others, we
might be a bit more mindful of what we say/write in public domain.  We
don't need a PC cop, just common courtesy and don't forget to add the
"smileys" to your jokes.  :)
Tamara
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: jl@CS.CMU.EDU (Juan Leon)
Subject: Re: Desaster en Corun~a
Originator: jl@SHELLEY.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
	<1992Dec14.124006.9483@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:15:08 GMT


   In article <9212040911.AA51171@cpuserver.acsc.com>, dominguez@ESAII.UPC.ES (Pablo Dominguez) writes:
   > 
   > Hombre, no es tan grande como la del Exxon Valdez (si mal no recuerdo, fueron
   > 500.000 toneladas de petroleo y creo una mancha de 250km cuadrados)
   > Ahora han sido 80.000 (que aunque sean menos, son mogollon)
   > El problema ahora, es saber quien va a pagar todos los danyos, mucho me temo que
   > al final el subsidiario sera el estado.... Si no recuerdo mal, en lo de el Exxon
   > Valdez le metieron un puro a la Exxon, no???
   > 

  En el New York Times de ayer Lunes (14 de Dic.) un articulo decia que,
medido por cantidad de petroleo vertida, la cagada del mar egeo en A Corunha
es casi dos veces mayor que la del Valdez en Alaska (sin pegamoides.)

  Una cosa es que el medio ambiente se recupera mucho mas lentamente en 
Alaska a causa del frio.

  Otra es que el impacto economico en Galicia sera mayor, porque por muy bueno
que sea el marisco de Alaska...

Juan
From: cadx721@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("Inigo")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ta luego
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:30:34 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde


	Bueno, hoy he venido a la uni a copiar un par de cosas del ordenador y de
paso a mirar las rn-news por ultima vez (hasta despues de la vacaciones) y de
paso me despido de todos (sin incluir a nadie en especial).
	Dentro de 25 horas estare de vuelta en Pamplona :-)
	Que ganas que tengo ya...
	Que paseis una vacaciones de flipar. Nos "vemos" a la vuelta.

Agur ta ondo ibili: Inigo Ruiz Oiz
From: arias@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (PERICO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: futbol...FAQ? II
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:59:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hola de nuevo.  Ahi va el '2nd installment' de estadistica 
futbolistica.  Por 'request' (Alex), se trata de la Copa...

 			Palmares (ano/campeon)

1902  Vizcaya       1932  At. Bilbao     1964  Zaragoza
1903  At. Bilbao    1933  At. Bilbao     1965  Ato. Madrid       
1904  At. Bilbao    1934  RM	         1966  Zaragoza
1905  RM	    1935  Sevilla        1967  Valencia
1906  RM	    1936  RM	         1968  Barna
1907  RM	    1937  ----------     1969  At. Bilbao
1908  RM	    1938  ----------     1970  RM
1909  San Seb.      1939  Sevilla 	 1971  Barna
1910  Barna         1940  RCD Espanol    1972  Ato. Madrid
1911  At. Bilbao    1941  Valencia 	 1973  At. Bilbao
1912  Barna         1942  Barna		 1974  RM
1913  Racing Irun   1943  At. Bilbao     1975  RM
1914  At. Bilbao    1944  At. Bilbao     1976  Ato. Madrid
1915  At. Bilbao    1945  At. Bilbao     1977  Betis
1916  At. Bilbao    1946  RM             1978  Barna
1917  RM            1947  RM             1979  Valencia
1918  Real Irun     1948  Sevilla 	 1980  RM
1919  Arenas/Guecho 1949  Valencia       1981  Barna
1920  Barna 	    1950  At. Bilbao     1982  RM
1921  At. Bilbao    1951  Barna 	 1983  Barna
1922  Barna	    1952  Barna		 1984  At. Bilbao
1923  At. Bilbao    1953  Barna		 1985  Ato. Madrid
1924  Real Union    1954  Valencia       1986  Zaragoza
1925  Barna	    1955  At. Bilbao     1987  Real Soc.
1926  Barna	    1956  At. Bilbao     1988  Barna
1927  Real Union    1957  Barna          1989  RM
1928  Barna         1958  At. Bilbao     1990  Barna
1929  RCD Espanol   1959  Barna          1991  Ato. Madrid
1930  At. Bilbao    1960  Ato. Madrid    1992  Ato. Madrid
1931  At. Bilbao    1961  Ato. Madrid    1993  ???????????
                    1962  RM
		    1963  Barna

# por equipo:

At. Bilbao/Vizcaya (?)       232
Barna			     21
RM			     16
Ato. Madrid                   8
Valenica		      5
Real Union/Racing Irun	      4
Sevilla			      3
Zaragoza		      3
RCD Espanol		      2
San Sebastian/Real Soc.       2
Las Arenas de Guecho          1
Betis			      1
--------------------------------------------------------------
                              Quote- "Well scratch my back with
                                      a hacksaw!"
  				      *locutor de los Penguins	
-Perico
From: sneeler@U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Steve Snow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: your mail <ESPANA-L%ALBNYVM1.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>
Date: 17 Dec 1992 22:10:12 -0600
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Steve Snow <sneeler@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On Thu, 17 Dec 1992 mmujica@CCRIT.DOC.CA wrote:

 > Message <9212172352.AA01027@relay.CDNnet.CA> not delivered to Martin Mujica
 >  <mmujica@ccrit.doc.ca>.
 > Non-delivery reason: auto-forwarded.
 >  Non-delivery qualifier: expired.

Is there some reason why we must ALL receive this junk?

Steve Snow
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
From: mauricio@athena.mit.edu (Mauricio P Barahona)
Subject: Smileys
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:48:57 GMT

In article <of_EgZe00iV283oFME@andrew.cmu.edu> talkasey+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tamara S. Al-Kasey) writes:

> We don't need a PC cop, just common courtesy and don't forget to add the
>"smileys" to your jokes.  :)
>Tamara

    En esto no puedo estar m`as de acuerdo: !por favor, poned los smileys!
!poned muchos smileys!. Que si no, no nos enteramos de las sutilezas que nos
intercambiamos. 

    Poca cosa somos... Y pensar que antes de venir a este pa`is hasta sab`ia
cu`ando reirme en las series sin necesidad de o`ir las risas enlatadas... Y
ya veis: ahora si no veo el smiley, me pierdo.

    As`i que si no te importa, Luis, podr`ias dedicarte tambi`en a perseguir
a los que sueltan comentarios jocosos sin poner smileys; porque esto no
puede seguir as`i. De ninguna manera.

     Mauricio
  (presidente y fundador de Evidentronica, compan~`ia que pr`oximamente
   comercializar`a el "Message Flashing Light" -dispositivo inteligente
   que emite una luz intermitente cuando llega el momento del mensaje en 
   cualquier serie o pel`icula concitando as`i la total atenci`on del
   inocente espectador que se encontraba perdido en la complicada trama-
   No disponible todav`ia para pel`iculas francesas por problemas de
   duraci`on de las bater`ias no recargables)
From: s_zurek@IRA.UKA.DE (Thomas Zurek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Ref: Sin pelas para ir a la mili: A MI LA LEGION
Date: 14 Dec 1992 11:23:25 -0600
Organization: ESPANA-L - soc.culture.spain Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Thomas Zurek <s_zurek@IRA.UKA.DE>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


In article <1e9vlgINN2ci@legion.novio.muerte.minisdef.es>, topete@legion.novio.m
 uerte.misdef.es writes:
|>
|> La mision en Bosnia, siendo peligrosa como todas las guerras, es estimulante
|> para todo militar vocacional. Junto a nosotros estan franceses y britanicos.
|> Por parte britanica nada mas y nada menos que el General Sir Peter de la
|> Billiere, veterano del Golfo Persico y un brillante profesional. Por parte
|> francesa, otro veterano de Irak, el General Roquejeoffre De SanSouci.
|> Es para mi un honor compartir esta mision con tan ilustres caballeros,
|> ya que la cobardia de nuestros politicos nos impidio colaborar con
|> nuestros aliados en la cuestion de Kuvait.

Has olvidado la cooperacion con Arnold Schwarzenecker !?

Thomas
From: pe24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pedro Escudero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Ref: IGNORANTES AMERICANOS
Date: 11 Dec 92 05:17:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cf_=4FO00iV2M1kFMt
	<1g757bINNu3@sal-sun26.usc.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Si los americanos nos evaluan por el progreso en nuestras colonias,
nosotros les podemos evaluar por el progreso en las suyas, listillo. A
saber: Panama, Filipinas, Granada, La reserva de la nacion apache, La
reserva de los navajos, La reserva de los arapahoes. Estas sugiriendo
que si hubiesemos exterminado a todos los habitantes de sudamerica
(existe otra America aparte de los EEUU) seriamos una nacion mas
desarrollada??????. La verdad es que a los navajos no les va tan mal,
igual les dan permiso para instalar un casino en la reserva.

Pedro.
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