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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: attention all league officers!
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There will be a team captains meeting at my place this weekend...anyone
not attending will be publically flogged...

heh heh...sorry couldn't resist...

Seriously...

Team Captains...

Tell all of your team members your team is DOOMED...
Team 7 has spoken....


-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
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"How come the best bowling ball for
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: gross@tuna.cis.ohio-state.edu (michael anthony gross)
Subject: Finally!!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:45:12 GMT


Hey all!
    I have finally shot a 700 in league, yeah in 3 games, no kidding.  Monday 
night I shot 235, 237, 236 for a 708.  Gotta love it!  I would like to get 
into this Fantasy Bowling League if I could.  If you need any details E-mail
me,  I'll try to be at the computer Monday morning.  Enjoy and good Bowling...

				Myke...

P.s.  Thanks Aki!  I resurrfaced my Sumo and red hammer and they are just like
new balls.  I really appreciate (sp) it!!  As you can tell it's worked so far. 

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 *  Junior in Cis/Eng                   *    attend daily seminars            *
 *  Ohio State University               *    on how to confuse men?           *
 *  gross@cis.ohio-state.edu            *    Oh, sure they SAY there going    *
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: cookinga@yukon.fishkill.ibm.com (Andy Cookingham)
Subject: FBL	
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 00:14:08 GMT
Reply-To: cookinga@yukon.fishkill.ibm.com (Andy Cookingham)
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Seams like a good time to jump into the fray. I have been reading the
news for a couple of weeks.		      
I think the FBL is a good idea. Count me in.									       							

Andy Cookingham

****************************************
IBM
E-mail: cookinga@yukon.fishkill.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Subject: Re: Current FBL Member list
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:27:19 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.060302.15512@ncsu.edu> MARK ALLAN HUNT,
> mahunt@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
> >Jeff's Wife (my apologies to Jeff's wife for calling her Jeff's
> wife..but I 
> >	     don't know her name yet! and who knows.. she might not want to be
> >	     called Jeff's wife! aki's probably wouldn't!)
> 
> 
> My wife only want's to be know as "Aki's wife" if we happen to be
> at a bowling ball manufactory.  For some reason she get's the
> red carpet treatment!

I feel an urge to ummm... welll.... you get the idea!

> 
> OBTW...Lynn (my wife) will join in also....

she is a member!!

> 
> Hey, I got an idea...what if everyone donated say $10-$20..to the
> secretary..
> at the end of the league year, whatever team comes in first, the secretary
> could call Barry up and buy new bowling balls for the team!  Or if
> everyone
> feels more comfortable, we could wait until the end of the year and
> everyone
> send barry the money directly and each team member of the winning team
> could call barry and order the ball of their choice (within a certain
> price
> range)....

Funny thing.. I was thinking the exact same thing... It would be a nice 
way to pick up a new ball!  We can either send the money to me and I will
put it in the bank like I do with my regular leagues or hold on to the 
money till the league is over.  I would tend to think the former would be 
better since sometimes it can be hard to collect money after the fact.
But this is fairly informal and I will go with the flow!

Dave
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: c9a-az@po.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto)
Subject: Re: All kind of stuff
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:13:22 GMT

In article <9134@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> mgtst2+@pitt.edu (Michael G Thompson) writes:
>
>Now to the new "cheater" balls.  I have both the RhinoPro and the
>ProHook.  I think the ProHook hooks sharper than any ball I've ever 
>used. Both balls carry like no ball ever made. But....I think the
>ABC is going to make another change on the oiling patterns to
>screw the balls over (like the houses will follow it though---the
>lanes I bowled on last night were dry as hell, which is probably
>why i bowled bad).  Either that or they will do something to the
>pins.  Any thought on this?
>
I don't think it will happen soon, if at all.  "Cheaters" are al-
ready quite ineffective on a flood or Sahara-dry conditions.  Yeah, 
"cheaters" are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but only if 
you're on the right condition.  They just happen to make a good thing
(easy lane conditions) even better.

The ABC went through hell to come up with the "System of Bowling"
lane maintenance procedure.  I don't think they want to trash so
new a plan so quickly just because of a new (and quite ABC legal)
product.  And even if the ABC were to do an about-face, the ball
makers would drum up a new product plan faster than you can say 
"short oil".

Speaking of which...Anyone out there ever hear of a "Guts" league?
This is a league where you *cannot* use urethane equipment -- only
plastic or rubber (no LT-48's or soakers, either) balls.  A few
houses in Southern Cal have attempted to start leagues of this 
nature; I'd bowl if I was still living there.  It would be in-
teresting to see what kind of "bowlers" would actually patronize
this league...hmmm...

Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Misc things that piss me off...
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:35:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.134335.7063@bnr.ca> Jeff Hammond,
jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA writes:
>	We've bowled both early and late shifts. The team I'm
>on is usually a fast paced team (i.e we like to stand them up and sit 
>them down especially when we are in a groove), and wefound it difficult 
>to always finsh a 5 man league in 2.5 hours if any difficulties
>were encountered. One unofficial rule our team has is that you 
>should be ready to bowl when the person before you steps off the
>approach. This isn't strictly enforced but we do like to keep 
>a flow. Despite this we would still find it hard to always
>finish on time. Maybe not enough strikes :(.
>	As far as clearing out. We always start cleaning up
>and changing as soon as our individual 10th frame is finished.
>Unless of course the late shift team were unusually nasty :).

I bowl in early leagues also and usually we can finish up 5 person
teams with no problem in the allotted time if (1) the lanes don't
break down, or (2) the other team doesn't wait until the other player
has bowled BOTH balls before stepping up to the approach.  I get
really blistered when I come in to bowl a late league and I see
every other lane EXCEPT for the lane our team is bowling on finished
and gone.  The two teams that are on our set of lanes is only in the
7th or 8th frame and they are bowling ONE PERSON AT A TIME.  In other
words, the bowler on the right will completely finish and sit down
before the bowler in the left lane even picks up their ball.  I ask the
counter if that pair of lanes broke down earlier and they say no, that
particuliar team is just "slow".   ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!! The league
officers or team captains should ensure they keep a decent pace.  In
one league, I see this happen EVERY week and we just happen to be
on the same schedule as this team that keeps doing this.  I have
mentioned to the house (like blowing in the wind), their secretary
(gets a shrug of the shoulders), their league president (reply--> "tell
the secretary"), and in desperation, the team itself (reply--> "Hey, we're
only a couple of minutes behind, mellow out".  Their "couple of minutes
behind" is finishing at 9:45 for our 9:15 league.  By the time shadow
bowl is over for us, it sometimes 10pm, which in turn means we don't
finish up sometimes till well after midnight... 

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
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From: longdon@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Garth Longdon)
Subject: Re: Usenet and $$$
Reply-To: longdon@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Information Technology Division, Naval Research Laboratory
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:09:24 GMT

---
>
>As for my  background...  I am an Engineer at Hewlett Packard and have
>been for 8  years...  my income is enough  that I don't have a need to
>take from others.  I have also been a sanctoined  League  Secretary in
>the past.  I just came up with the idea...  It will be fun.
>
>Dave


Dave,

I hope you didn't take any part of my commentary as indicating that the league
Secretary couldn't be trusted with the money; this would be the least of my concerns,
and I certainly didn't mean to imply that -- sorry if it came across that way.

Actually, a lot of my attitude about this comes from the fact that I'm still bitter
about a summer league I was in this year, where a team of 5 known ~200 average bowlers
sandbagged their asses off the entire season, averaging ~170-180, and then miraculously
shot well over 3000 the last night.  And it's not even that this personally affected
me (my team was out of it the whole season), it just annoys the hell out of me to see
someone get away with something like that.

Aki comments later:

> Besides, it's only $10 or $20 either way...less than what most
> of us will spend on drinks/food etc on a league night.

It's not the size of the individual contribution that bothers me; as you point out,
$10-$20 over a season won't kill me one way or the other.  Just the idea that the
potential exists for someone to cheat others out of a larger prize.  However,  since
Dave will be monitoring scores, this is much less of a threat than otherwise.

Anyway, what the hell, it sounds like fun, count me in.

Garth




Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: FBL Team Roosters!
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:26:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.231058.8742@col.hp.com> Dave Fleck,
fleck@col.hp.com writes:
>Team #7
>Martin Greenberg
>Mike Sullivan
>Aki Damme
>Brenda Hammond
>Barbara Newell


Team #7 kicks BUTT! 

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: ged1@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Gregory E. Daigle)
Subject: BOWLERS WHO WEAR RALPH LAUREN
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:36:15 GMT


Doesn't happen, ever wonder why?


	Bowling, not a sport, more of an art.  Not much athleticism involved.

	As for the Ralph Lauren question, the answer is that you can't get
	R.L. at JC Penny or Kmart.

		Don't bother a post, I'll never be here again, personal
		responses, if you must.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: FBL Tidbits ...
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:41:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.193855.194@iplmail.orl.mmc.com> Steve Gabrilowitz,
steveg@iplmail.orl.mmc.com writes:
>What I dislike about the 8 point system is that it has a (slight) lack of
>fairness, if one team severely trounces the other in one game but loses
the other
>2 then the night would be an even split on the 8 point system, I think
the 7
>point system is more fair because it gives the team that won the 2 games
a slight
>lead in that situation.  Maybe use a 14 point system (4 per game, 2 for
total) as
>a comprimise to avoid that dreaded half point situation?

sure sounds good to me...either way...I just personally *hate* the 1/2
point sceneario...if you know what I mean...


-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
*************************************
From: MAX@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark K. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Usenet and $$$
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:48:16 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov9.173246.12430@worldbank.org>, aki
<aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> says:
>
>How about THIS instead?  We all "chip in" say...oh...$500,000.  At the
>end of the season we use the money to buy a chain of bowling
>alleys all over the world.  That way we can have free drinks at the
>bar anytime we want!  Good idea huh?  I gotta a million of 'em...

I like it!  What was that address again?  I can tell you've never seen my
bar tab!  Oh, make that boubon a double!
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: mikek@col.hp.com (Mike Karin)
Subject: Re: FBL Fees
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:27:10 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

dunster@sdsu.edu (mark dunster) writes:
> If there's a split decision on a prize ball, how about this for
> a compromise:  Let those who want to compete for a ball pay their
> n dollars, and those who don't want to have a prize, pay their 
> m dollars (m < n) ($m optional: just for the secretary's ball). 
> Then have teams consisting only of prize or non-prize people. The
> highest placed prize-people team wins the balls!
> 
I think that the secretary has enough of a job without complicating it
with something like this.  Lets keep it simple.  Dave has proposed that
the prize fund contribution be only $15 or $20.  This sounds pretty 
reasonable and is little more than what I spend on weekly league fees
and beer for my one league night.

Mike Karin
Hewlett-Packard Co.
Colorado Springs Division
mikek@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Re: Current FBL Member list
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:15:18 GMT

In article 13051@europa.asd.contel.com,  king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King) writes:
>Dave,
>
>	I would be interested also.  I sent a reply E-Mail to you but it
>looks like you may not have received it.  Thus I will post it here and
>hope that you get it...
>
>(Now let me see, Yes, I do believe I spelled everything correct) 
>
>--
>Larry King
>GTE Government Systems, Needham, MA    		(617) 455-3384 
>E-Mail : king%ssvax.dnet@gte.com


Larry -

We could form a team out of GTE, past and present ... that would be at
least three of us ... 

Paul:  Grok ??


Bob - leadoff bowler  :-)

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Software Engineer, (703)-818-4656  | Winter Bowling Leagues 1992-1993
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   15000 Conference Center Drive   |    Thursday Mixups:         Thu 20:30
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Subject: Call for Nominations
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:11:03 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


We need to nominate a President and Vice President....

and then vote...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:19:45 EST
From: Mark K. Miller <MAX@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Ok everyone I LIED...

In article <1992Nov5.195557.26680@worldbank.org>, aki
<aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> says:
>
>I only bowl in one league in Dranesville and I average
>125...  but I've worked that up from my 115 average
>last year...

Ok.  Let's call the ABC and check this guy out!  ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Subject: Re: FBL 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:16:42 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Andy,

I tried to send you email but it bounced.  Can you send me some email
so I can see what your address is.

Thanks,

Dave

fleck@cs.itc.hp.com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: What makes the difference?
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:53:25 GMT

In article <MIKE.92Nov9160849@flame.et.iupui.edu> P. Michael Haffley,
mike@flame.et.iupui.edu writes:
>Now my questions is in how do I determine which ball to use on the
verious
>lane conditions? What ball should I get to help on the exterme oily
conditions
>and when there is a lot of carry down. How do you get through all of the
>hype of bowl reactions. Right now consistency is my biggest problem, but
>when I am on, I take way too long trying to figure out the best shot for
a
>particular lane conditions. It would be nice if someone could post
suggested
>ways of attacking and reading various lane conditions. Maybe include the
>best way for a down and in, inside-out, straight bowler, etc...
>

Tough question...

Reading the lane is very important...shadow bowling before league
starts is an excellent time to read the lane.  Also coming in early
while the other leagues are bowling and see how the ball reacts
is also helpful.

There is a device called the "PINWHEEL"  from Pinwheel Products Inc.
It's a handheld cardboard device with a dial on it that you "dial in"
the type of conditions there is on the lane and it will tell you the
best way to pick up a spare.  Also it comes with a free wheel that
tells you about different types of drilling techniques for different
types of lane conditions.  I don't have the brochure with me, but you
can find it's ad in various bowling mags.  I think it cost around $20.

I seen it and it's really helpful for people who are having problems
with lane conditions.  Also BTW...it endorsed by the PBA! :-) ...


Regards,


-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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From: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: it almost makes my eyes water...
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:43:58 GMT
Reply-To: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


	I'll leave out the aki's message for brevity,
but I couldn't have put it better. I immediatley moved
this group to the top of my list and am not disappionted.
Thank you all.

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From: cookinga@yukon.fishkill.ibm.com (Andy Cookingham)
Subject: FBL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:53:31 GMT
Reply-To: cookinga@yukon.fishkill.ibm.com (Andy Cookingham)
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

When would the averages be set? Nov. 1st?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:13:35 EST
From: Mark K. Miller <MAX@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Fantasy Bowling League (FBL)
 <1992Nov4.200859.14816@europa.asd.contel.com>

In article <1992Nov4.200859.14816@europa.asd.contel.com>,
ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley) says:
>
>In article 12445@worldbank.org,  aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>      :
>writes

>>what a cool idea!  I LIKE it!  Only problem is I bowl in 3 leagues...
>>which set would I pick?  The best one? Or would I have to pick
>>a league and stick with that?
>
>Ditto here ... of course, Aki and I could use our common league ...
>
>>In all fairness, probably handicap would be best...

Pick one and stick with that league.  Handicap would make the choice
very inconsequential.

>>(uh...I have a 125 average...YEAH, THAT'S the ticket!)...
>
>*mmph-pphhht* ... *snicker-snicker* ... [ controlling the urge to
>bust out laughing ]   ;-)

I have no control; I just laughed!  Really, the trustworthyness (is that
a word?) of the participants is not an issue.  We're all sanctioned
bowlers here.  If anyone really has any doubts ABC records can be checked.

>OK, next question ... who wants to hold an office?  I nominate Dave
>Fleck for the office of Secretary ...

I second that.

>Bob - what about the prize fund?   :-)

Well, send it to me; of course.

MAX - ABC sanction #262623
From: perry_b@verifone.com (Perry J. Bird - JAYBIRD)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: A moment of your time?
Date: 3 Nov 92 00:14:47 -1000
Organization: VeriFone (UK) Ltd

Sorry to be a pain, but I suspect my recent posts here aren't reaching the 
net.  Please prove me wrong, if you saw this post, please email me a very 
brief "yes, I got it" reply?

I'd sure appreciate it.  
-- 
Perry J. Bird - Support Services Manager,  VeriFone (UK) Limited.
                via VeriFone Inc, Mililani, Hawaii, U.S.A.
From: bbaker@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Baker)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: ProHook, I'm Impressed
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:25:59 GMT
Reply-To: rbakerpc@aol.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA


Well, just got a ProHook last night and had it drilled up.  Really
impressive even without having much hook yet (it's still breaking in - only
bowled about 7 games).  The first two games were totally discusting, but
after that.....  I think I averaged over 200 for the next 5 games with
ease.  One game was a 236 with the first 5 in a row.  This is the first
ball I've ever thrown where I've hit the pocket solid with a devastating
strike and then actually had SEVERAL pins come bouncing back out of the pit
and down the lane well in front of the sweep.  One 7-pin spare had the pin
bounce off the side-boards and back across the lane 2 or 3 times.  It would
have easily taken out the entire back row, not to mention a 7-10 split.
Can't wait for leagues tonight!

The Pro shop also had a ProHook Extreme on the shelf that just came in with
my ProHook.  While looking at the ball I noticed that it seems like you can
actually "ripple' the shell by pressing hard with your fingers while
rubbing the surface. Really strange.

By the way, I'd really like to join the FBL but I'm changing jobs soon and
may not have Usenet access for awhile.  I'll have to see what happens...

  Bob
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