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From: alanc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alan Coopersmith)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: UC Berkeley Zip Code (extended studies) ?
Date: 11 Apr 1992 11:11:31 GMT
Organization: U.C. Bezerkeley Overloaded Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ocf.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr8.224908.9858@ucselx.sdsu.edu> coxc0001@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Mert Buyukyazgan) writes:
)Subject asks it.

All addresses on the Berkeley campus have a 94720 zip code.  (note that some
off-campus dorms & office buildings are in the general berkeley zip codes...)


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From: bartlone@gemed (Mike Bartolone 5-4266)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: address of UW Milwaukee
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:54:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: mr.1992Apr6.155427.9004
Reply-To: bartlone@gemed.ge.com (Mike Bartolone 5-4266)
Distribution: milw
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI

Looking for Sean Castro at UW-MKE...anyone have an address?

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Newsgroups: soc.college,talk.rape,soc.women
From: ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu (Joni Ciarletta)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Best Schools for MBA?
Date: 7 Apr 1992 14:19:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

I am not sure if this is the appropriate board for this question,
so please refer me to the proper one if I have misjudged the intent
of this board....

I was wondering if anyone could recommend universities in the
Los Angeles area that have good MBA programs.  I believe that
USC, UCLA, Cal Lutheran and Pepperdine all have programs. Does
anyone know anything about any of these?  Are there others as
well?  Perhaps someone may know where I can get ahold of
a ranking of them???

Any help you can provide would be appreciated.  Please email me
directly at:

ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu

Thanks!!

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Question about the Scholarship Research Center (money finder)
Keywords: college question scholarship research money help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:38:05 GMT

silk@dorm.rutgers.edu (The Silk Merchant) writes:
>Question: There's this place which is advertising around Rutgers U.
>which offers to find me money for college. They guarantee it. They
>only give places which have no-fee applications. It's only $45. How
>can they afford it? Has anyone else tried it? Is it worth even
>considering it? Has anyone tried anything like it? It seems like a
>good deal. Even so good as to be too good to be true. Help?
*----
If they promise to find you money for college, it's an unbelievable
bargain.  Are you sure they actually guarantee to find you money?
Most of these places just guarantee to find you scholarships for
which you may qualify.
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	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college,talk.rape
From: chris@cco.caltech.edu (Christopher Penn Launey)
Subject: Re: Not About Fraternities
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:54:03 GMT

disc5e6@rosie.uh.edu (92S00302) writes:

>Group harmony? Are you sure it's not because you've run out of 'clever' unfound
>ways to rip at groups which you have no knowledge of?  
>Well duck and cover Ted, even if we had had any respect for you it would be shot
>now. Run along now there must be some group for you to pick on out there 
>who won't show you up to be the closed minded person you are.
>(by the way Ted your weak opinionated arguments remind me of another loser
>namely Rush Limbaugh, you two wouldnt happen to be related now would you)

Look, you ass. After all this shit raging back and forth (and there has been
a lot of shit spewing out from both sides of the issue) Ted tries to initiate
discussion about something else and now he's being flamed for that? How far
into his post do you even read? I think the subject was actually interesting,
but it will probably be lost amongst the flames and counter-flames which will
be chucked around for even longer. Maybe people can get into the homosexual/
homophobic debates that seem to fare so well in other groups. Or a thread 
about Rush that lasts fifteen months. Go, team!

Anyway, about college guides, a friend of mine had one that seemed pretty
cool...it was very frank and apparently wasn't afraid to use the word "asshole,"
for whatever that's worth. There were ratings on scales of one to five 
telephones for social life, stars for reputation, etc. I can't remember the 
name of it, though. Did anyone else buy this?
cheers,
Chris
 
>Ken
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Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: murphyed1@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: ANY PHI KAPPA SIGMA BROS. OUT THERE?
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:59:23 GMT

I am looking for fellow Phi Kap's (Skulls) out there to correspond with through
net mail.  This is for the purpose of chapter comparisons, and relations.  I'm
also a normally talkative (and curious) guy, and wonder how many Phi Kaps are
out there.  Being a new CHAPTER!!!!!  I'm interested in how some of the older,
or not so old chapters do things...  Rush, pledge, ect...

That's all for now....

Ed...
 
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Newsgroups: soc.college,misc.legal
From: kyee@bnlux1.bnl.gov (kenton yee)
Subject: Inside info wanted about Stanford Law School
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:29:20 GMT

Hi, I'm trying to decide on law schools;  if there's someone (an
alumni or student) at Stanford law who can answer a few questions
about the atmosphere of the school and the strength of its specialties,
please drop me a line.     Ken  (kyee@bnlux1.bnl.gov)


Newsgroups: soc.college
From: alasnik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Adam Lasnik)
Subject: Re: Sorority/Fraternity crap!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:12:11 GMT

>Oh God, this wise young lady has obviously outgrown a whiny wuss of a
>boyfriend and I, for one, commend her.  If your relationship couldn't

[other insulting demeaning stuff deleted]

Hey look.

Lay off.  I don't know the original poster at all, but I respect his opinions,
and more importantly, his feelings.  I wish you would do the same.

--ADAM "KEYS" LASNIK

P.S. -- If you'd like to continue your personal attacks, please consider
taking them to e-mail.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: dw3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Christopher Wiggins)
Newsgroups: soc.college,alt.cult-movies,alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Steam Tunnels
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:17:54 GMT
	<1992Apr6.125655.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>
	<sdsEgzW00VpP
Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


jk73+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:

>at CMU, the same deal. if found in the steam tunnels, expulsion, fines,
>blah, blah, blah. However,  they insisted on tell all the freshmen
>entering the school that it was once a great CMU tradition to go across
>the campus via tunnels but now it's illegal [+ more bureacratic bogus]
>as if tempting students into the tunnels and their all expense paid
>dean's vacation. [sick sense of humor they have in the administration]. 
>but no one really gets kicked out of the school though. 

If the cops catch you, the fine is the same as for having a waterbed in
your dorm. So What? Big Deal.

-dave
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: wasylik@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Wasylik)
Subject: Re: Fraternities
Followup-To:  Ministry of Propaganda
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:17:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.181527.13739@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Follow-ups out of alt.folklore.college
>The United States Supreme Court has held that fraternity membership is
>not protected by the Constitution should a college choose to regulate it.

The Supreme Court has held many other foolish or erroneous positions.  One of
its early decisions (I think it was Chisolm v. Georgia) said that states could
be sued by private citizens, despite specific intents by the framers of the
Constitution to the contrary.  (This was later corrected by an Amendment)

The Supreme Court has also held that "separate but equal" facilities for
Negroes was not a violation of civil rights.  

The Supreme Court may soon overturn Roe v. Wade.

The Supreme Court is NOT infalliable.  "Freedom of association" is by
definition, the right to form and join whatever organizations one wishes. 
Even the Klan is legally allowed to exist -- mere association does no one
harm. If the group sanctions illegal activities, then it may be punished for
them.  Tenuous evidence of "providing an atmosphere conducive to..."  whatever
actions, is hardly sufficient grounds for banning such oorganizations.

>You have freedom of association to choose to go to a college that doesn't
>have the sense to abolish fraternities.

Freedom of association has nothing to do with choosing an institution of
higher learning.  If I were to attend Yale, Notre Dame, Harvard, or
Hillsborough Community College, I would still be legally within my rights to
form an organization with my friends, for whatever purposes we thought
appropriate.  Whether we name it with Greek letters, call each other
"brother", or choose not to admit people we may not like is not the issue.  If
one should commit rape, then he is wrong.  If one should degrade another

member, he is wrng.

Mw

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Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.women,talk.rape
From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach Kessin)
Subject: Re: still more practical jokes
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:30:52 GMT

ejohnson@cs.washington.edu (Eric Johnson) writes:


[stuff deleted]

>Perhaps you could enlighten us, while were on the subject, with some dialogue
>of the court decision you talk about so much that supposedly gives one the right
>to go to a school free of fraternities. I'd like to hear actual commentary
>from the justices -- your position on this is quite clear, and I doubt it 
>needs to be repeated.
OK: Appendix B to The Brandeis Student Union Constitution:

ON May 28, 1988, the Board of Trustees of Brandeis University
unanimously approved the following resolution: The Board of Trutees
reaffirms University policy of recognizing only those student
organizations which are open to all students on the basis of
competency or interest.  Exclusive or secret societies are
inconsistent withe principles of openness to which the University is
committed. Therefore, social fraternities and sororities, in
particular, are neither recognized nor permitted to hold activities on
campus or use Universtiy facilities.
 
>-Eric Johnson
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The fact that Brandeis is frat-free is one of the reasons that I chose
to come her. I Don't like exclusive organizations. I didn't like the
key club in high school, which was membership by invitation only. And
I don't like frats (or sororities) now!

--Zach

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Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.women,talk.rape
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Subject: Re: fraternities
Reply-To: ken@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM PSP Palo Alto, Ca.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 15:58:55 GMT

#In article <1992Apr12.123401.4989@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
#>In article <1992Apr9.185513.15773@news.iastate.edu>, mds@iastate.edu 
#>(Mark D. Smucker) writes:
#>> 	``A 1990 national survey of more than 12,000 students
#>> 	by the Campus Violence Prevention Center at Maryland's
#>> 	Towson State University found that about half of all 
#>> 	reported acquaintance rapes were committed by frat members
#>> 	and athletes.''
#>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
#>
#>break it down by percentages. What porportion of the population are
fraternity
#> members and athletes? How many rapes were fraternity members?
#
#Why is it relevant?  The point is how all-male social organizations
#perpetuate stereotypes and provide behavior reinforcement that leads
#to rape.  I assure you that fratoids and athletes make up well under
#half of the college population.


The portion of the population who are fraternity members and athletes
is not relevant. The statistic above is relevant because it might effect
the numbers people throw around when making allegations.

Using the above statistic (50% of acquaintance rapes by athletes an
fraternity men), here's an even (but probably unrealistic) scenario using 
the above numbers. Let's make fraternities responsible for 25% of date/
acquaintance rapes and athletes responsible for the other 25%. So, based
on the above quote, the argument that fraternities commit half of
acquaintance rapes is a half-truth. I suppose you could find a subset
of men who are both fraternity members *and* athletes, but without
the numbers it's only conjecture.

If it is an even split, fraternity men commit 25% of campus date
or acquaintance rapes. This may still be disproportionate depending
on the number of men in fraternities vs. the number of male students,
but this can only be determined on a campus-by-campus basis. Athletes,
whom I would assume would be much smaller in number than fraternity 
members, commit 25% of rapes - more disproportionate than the
fraternity figure.

Of course, until we get the actual numbers, this is all rhetoric. But
I think that there is more to the athlete angle. I recently read an
article about campus date/acquaintance rapes by athletes in a women's
magazine, and I think there is more to this than people have reported
here. I am researching this further at a local college library.



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Newsgroups: soc.college,talk.rape
From: eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler)
Subject: Re: fraternities
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:25:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Witherspoon Excludables
Followup-To: alt.flame

In <kun9jaINN6fc@skat.usc.edu>, rone@skat.usc.edu stated:
>
>Something like a pack a day. It's like any other drug: if you do it too much, 
>you die. If you drink too much your liver will bust. If you smoke too much
>your lungs will be covered in much and your heart will give out. If you 
>breathe too much nitrous your brain will asphyxiate. Ad nauseaum for illegal
>drugs.

Clearly, this belongs in sci.med.

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From: chris@cco.caltech.edu (Christopher Penn Launey)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: still more practical jokes...What the Hell?
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:46:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

Just a small request...would y'all please change the subject line when the 
thread changes as much as it has? I highlighted about seven million articles
with the subject line "still more practical jokes" and was a tad disappointed.
Thanks a bunch!
cheers,
Chris

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If it's really good,		Caltech Happy Hours: September-June
You won't need a knife."	All you can drink! Cover charge $23,000
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Fraternities  was (Re: still more practical jokes
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:15:53 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Apr3.040542.4289@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> In article <1992Apr3.024518.25930@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) writes:
>>	Obviously you people have gotten so used to your comfortable little
>>stereotypes that there's no point in trying to talk about this any more.
> 
> Well, Tom, you're the one who stereotypes anti-fraternity people as folks
> who haven't thought about this at all.  We've presented facts, analysis,
> and documentation.  You've responded with anecdotes and personal attacks.
> -- 
Actually, all I've seen is rumour, urban legend, and heresay (sp?). Am I 
missing all the good posts?
Mike 
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: sl55050@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SauWai )
Subject: Just A Survey For International Students, Like To Check It Out??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:36:46 GMT


Hi,
	I'm doing a research about international students and their life in 
US.  I would appreciate it very much if you can take a few minutes and answer
the following questions as truthfull as you can.  Thank you very much.

PLEASE ONLY REPLY IF YOU ARE INTERNATIONAL STUDENT. THANKS.


1. Did you have any problems with communication?(language barrier) (Y or N)
2. Did you have difficulties meeting friends? (Y or N)
3. Did you encounter any major financial problems? (Y or N)
4. Did you experience any academic problems due to the new learning environment?(Y or N)
5. Have you heard of the counseling service for international students on you
   campus? (Y or N)

   Suppose you have heard about it and decided to go to seek counseling help:

6. Would you have a preference to have a counselor who has the same ethnic 
   background as you do? (Y or N)
7. Would you have a preference over the gender of your counselor? (Y or N)
8. Would you like to have "peer counseling"? (Y or N)
   (Have the same background as you)
9 Do you think it is helpful for you to adapt to the new enviroment :
       a. joining an ethnic organization (Y or N)
       b. having more cultural events taking place on campus(Y or N)
       c. going to workshops such as for stress manangement, studying skill etc.
	  (Y or N)
10. Would you seek help from the counseling center if you ever encounter
    any problems such as those mentioned above?(Y or N)
11. Do you have any inputs that you like to give?

Except for question 11, you can just answer y or n.  Once again I like to thank
	you for your time.

a) Country you came from:                 
b) Age:
c) Gender:
d) undergrad/grad/others:

THANKS AGAIN!

			 			Karen Lau
						s-lau3@uiuc.edu


Newsgroups: soc.college
From: schubach@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (bernard william schubach)
Subject: Re: Generalizations (was: Fraternities)
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:35:40 GMT

>Please keep in mind that when the word "fraternity" is used in this
>discussion, it is in reference to the traditional late-twentieth
>century North American all-male Greek Letter society of a social nature,
>rather than service fraternities, honor fraternities, etc.  (Conversely,
>a lot of what is said about fraternities in these discussion is almost as
>applicable to male college athletes in team sports.)
>-- 
>Ted Frank          + "Question whether attorney's filing claim for 'stud fee'
>1307 E 60 St, #109 +  as countersuit to paternity action was improperly
>U o' C Law Skool   +  motivated required remand."  Headnote 9, Committee on
>Chi, IL 60637      +  Legal Ethics of WVa State Bar v Douglas, 370 SE2d 325.

I understand that this is what fraternity means in this discussion, but
I have a question.

Suppose you walk up to someone wearing a greek letter sweatshirt.
Are you automatically prejudiced against them, or do you only
judge them after asking if they are in a social fraternity.
(I'm assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that you don't know 
exactly which fraternities are social, service, or honor,
down to the last fraternity).

Bernie. :)
        (:
Two smiley who are worms mating.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: ejohnson@cs.washington.edu (Eric Johnson)
Subject: Re: fraternities and drug use
Organization: Sarah Brady Fan Club
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 05:44:26 GMT

In article <703312734251@dingding.mcs.anl.gov> madden@dingding.mcs.anl.gov (Mr. William P. Madden) writes:
>Getting off the current thread, I would like candid replies on drug use at
>social fraternities, especially during initiation and the like. I was in a 
>social fraternity in the mid to late 80's, and at that time it was quite
>widespread.
>
>I dont regret my membership and time spent there, I live by experience, and
>there are positive and negitive aspects to any experience. Three Rhodes 
>Scholars in 5 years is not that shoddy either. :)
>
>Bill

Three Rhodes Scholars in five years? Not too shabby.

I find that drug use here at UW tends to be very localized. I pledged late
in my freshman year from the dorms (where drugs were widespread) into
a house. There were (and have yet to be since I have been here - I'm a 
senior now) no drugs of any kind, barring alcohol used by any member.
I thought this was the case at all houses until I started going to 
parties at other fraternities. Some were just open about it, others, like 
my fraternity, had no use (not that we didn't drink enough beers or
anything :) at all. At least here, the houses that get into that scene tend
to get shut down or shaken up pretty quick. I don't know what it is like
nationally, but here the dorms were much worse than anything I've seen in
the greek system, and we've got the largest greek system in this half of the
country.

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From: h2m@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (JA)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Steam Tunnels
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:11:27 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Apr7.193609.16805@yang.earlham.edu>,
jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu writes: 

>  Steam breaks are rare, but not unheard of.
> -- 
> Jeremiah Wilton    "jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu"    "jeremiah@earlham.bitnet"

True. We had one somewhere around campus earlier this week.  At least that's 
what I gathered from the Public Safety transmissions on the scanner. 

"Let's be careful out there."---> The guy from Hill Street Blues

And as far as I know, the tunnels here are not all that great, there are 
stories..... but fact has yet to prove them as reliable....

later.
ja

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