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From: BTITMARS%ESOC.BITNET@vm.gmd.DE (BARRY TITMARSH)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Who runs WAMPES ?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:18:51 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Just asking who is running wampes ?
Im just getting sorted out with it .. just to test.. First thoughts are its
a bit Antiquated compaired to WNOS  ok very stable but much out of touch
with the latest tech.. PM-NOS is nice But it has not got an AX25 Autorouter
it seems to use the NetRom which is dead in these parts.
Ok if there is any one with wampes and you have any config tips hints
and doc's can you please post them ... I know the wampes author is not
likely to ever make even the simplest install guide, well thats life. ah!
anyone got any helpfull info then ??
barry.
From: JKASSER@STDADS.LAS.LORAL.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Telemetry Standards
Date: 2 Oct 1992 11:10:49 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

 
Greetings
I'm looking to update the proposed amateur satellite telemetry downlink
and archive standards, prior to publication.
Is there anyone out there with experience in the fields who'd like to
supply some input?
 
Joe W3/G3ZCZ
jkasser@stdads.las.loral.com
From: lyndon@unbc.edu (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway Policy
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:18:50 GMT
Organization: University of Northern B.C.

mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) writes:
> The moderators duties would be to ensure that
> interesting articles posted to the various rec.radio.amateur.* groups be
> acceptable for packet operation

No joy. Any foole can forge moderated postings. The buck, as always, stops
with the gateway operator.

As for SB/EX formatting: just what kind of archaic software are you running?
Those aren't NNTP commands :-)
From: segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Looking for help with MSYS
Date: 27 Sep 92 12:04:50 GMT
Reply-To: segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com
Organization: Me and only Me


Greetings,

Several hams in the Culpeper Virginia area are in the process of setting up a
LAN to support our packet activities.  I am providing a BBS service using MSYS
and have reached a point where I need to get the mail forwarding mechanism
set up properly.  I would like to correspond with someone familiar with MSYS to
get some guidance on this topic.  If you can help, please contact me directly
via Internet mail at segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com.

--
Bob Segrest, KD4PWU
segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Subject: pagers for ham use?
Reply-To: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:52:06 EST

Earlier today I was in at my favorite electronic surplus store, and
they were selling a number of old Motorola pagers. These are the simple
sort that just beep when they receive the right "code". Based on the
tags attached, I gather most (all?) were designed to listen to
frequencies just above 149MHz. Before I spend money and/or start
pestering Motorola I wonder if anyone on net could help with the
following questions:

- How hard/easy is it to change the frequency these units use? I would
  (of course) want to bring it into the 2 meter amateur band.
- How hard/easy is it to determine the code a given pager is set to?
- How hard/easy is it to alter that code?
- How hard/easy is it to produce the code used to turn on the pager?
- How hard/easy would it be for my 2 metre HT to produce the code?

Now for the legal questions:

- Is the turn-on code for a pager considered a "secret" code (at
  least as far as Canadian rules are concerned)?
- If I were to use this as a paging system with other hams I assume
  there would be no problem, I send out a call, and within a few
  minutes hams show up on a given frequency (ie: a crazy version of
  "CQ VE3...."). If on the other hand I hand a pager to a non-ham
  family member, and then activate the pager, would this be a
  "broadcast" (ie: here we are talking about a crazy version of
  "Phone home")?

Thanks in advance for any help, and if there is enough interest I will
post a summary of what I learn.

73's from VE3ZAA
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From: lyndon@unbc.edu (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway Policy
Summary: Get real!
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:27:14 GMT
Organization: University of Northern B.C.
X-Amateur-Callsign: VE7TCP

vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail) writes:

> Many moons ago I suggested adding a field like "X-Amateur-Callsign: "
> to email and new articles.  This would be done by hams for stuff
> suitable to be forwarded automatically.

> Many people pointed the obvious ease at how this could be forged.  So
> what.  At least this is a starting point for trust and can be used to
> seperate certifiable stuff from articles that are not suitable for
> gateway.

Giving someone a false sense of security will only get them into trouble.
Program a neophyte gateway operater to think that "X-Amateur-Approved"
is OK then he probably will. That won't do anything to save his ass when 
this posting makes it through the gateway.

Wishful thinking is not reality - don't confuse the two. If you really
want to do something productive, start by looking at technology such as
public key authentication.

As a sidenote to those talking about writing "naughty bits" filters, how
many of your filters will catch something like "merde merde merde" from
getting through? The whole world doesn't speak english. You're going to
have to come up with some pretty impressive AI software to catch these
naughty bits in french, german, croatian, cantonese, etc., in addition
to english.
From: mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: TheNet X1G (high/low)
Date: 28 Sep 92 04:05:51 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

In the documentation for TheNet X1G, there is mention of another version
that is available that includes the old HIGH/LOW commands that allow the
sysop to turn on the Connect LED or the Sta LED, for remote control of
devices at the site.  The author mentions that he felt that not too many
people used this function anymore so they were deleted, but a version
with the commands still active was available.

Does anyone know where I could get the version with the HIGH/LOW commands
still active?  I need something like this before I can replace the ver.
2.08 Plus that I am running now.  (It also has an ON/OFF command).  I use
this feature to reset a PC at the site, and also to turn on & off an amp
for one of the rigs.

By the way... I am REALLY impressed with this version of TheNet code.  I
wondered if anyone would ever incorporate the old "bank switching"
technology from the days of CP/M, and was very happy to see it being done
with the TNC-2.  A lot of thought and hard work went into this code and
it really shows.

Does anyone know an e-mail address for the author other than packet?
Any help would be very much appreciated.  Thanks.

Mark Bitterlich
wa3jpy@wb4uou.nc.usa.noam [packet radio]
mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil [internet]
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Online BBS for HAM radio operators
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:44:42 +1700
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

This is a short post to remind you of a free service to amateurs who are also
computer hobby oriented.  The HAM Connection BBS is online for your free use
and enjoyment 24 hours per day.   Downloads on first call/Message conferences
if you have something you wish to sell or discuss.  Up to 57600 baud file
transfers.
 
Data: 1-409-833-1795 / 24 hours / 7 days per week / 14.4k Baud 8,N,1
Located in South East Texas.
 
System : The HAM Connection Server
 
Please give us a call, we need your support!        -Grady

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: AmigaNOS
From: zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:41:56 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The .SIG research Department, General Enquiries Office

In article <01GPBC7A00CG93CDVM@HOBBES.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM> RSHANEY%PV@HOBBES.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM (Where's my chainsaw?) writes:
>
>
>>Don't forget, I know hardly anything about Packet or Amateur Radio.
>>Is the TNC the actual `Hardware' as such like the Packet hardware,
>>and the radio setup?
>
>Yes, that is the hardware.  You connect your 500 to the TNC, run the
>terminal program, and you are (in theory) ready to go.  (You'll have to
>learn some of the ins and outs of packet, but just monitoring is pretty
>easy.)  I run on an A3000 and a PK-88, total setup time was about two
>minutes.

*Wow* Not long to setup at all!!! :)

>I'd save AmigaNOS until after I learned more about packet.  It'll be
>easier to set up that way.

Yup, I am goin gto the Amateur Radio meeting this week here... I will
try and ge ts ome help in getting into the scene, who knows,
maybe soon we can chat over the airwaves!! Or can we? Can I chat
to you from here in New Zealand?

Grant

-- 
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  //                Zoltar@Glasgow.Amigans.Gen.NZ
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From: ron@chaos.eng.wayne.EDU (Ron Atkinson )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Problems: TheNet X1G
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:00:38 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Try a faster eprom.  It worked just fine here and when I burned a slower
eprom I had the exact same symptoms.  I think I know have a 27512-2 (Intel)
and it works fine in the MFJ-1270b.  There is also a THENET X1F node that
we're running since that version was out in a Paccomm Tiny 2 and it hasn't
locked up yet.  

Ron  N8FOW
From: Jan A. Barglowski <jan@archimedes.nwc.navy.mil>
Subject: ftp site for Macintosh SoftKiss?
X-Xxdate: Thu, 1 Oct 92 09:27:13 GMT
Organization: VisLab, Naval Air Warfare Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:20:40 GMT

Hello all, I want to build the Macintosh TNC featured in the latest 73
magazine, but the internet address given in the article is wrong.  So
does anyone know where I can ftp the SoftKiss control panel from???

73, jan.
From: vaillan@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Clement Vaillancourt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: info request for "poor man's packet"
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:07:26 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Sep28.203455.19992@news.columbia.edu> jdl@lena.cc.columbia.edu (John Louie) writes:
>hi,
>
>I've just read an article about a kit, that would cost about 30 dollars to  
>make, which gives you packet on the mac.  (_73 amateur radio today_ oct  
>'92)
>
>in that same issue I see a small p/review (for PacComm's Baymod-9 $65) 
>and an ad for Tigertronics's BayPac model BP-1 ($50).  Does anybody have  
>any experience with these products?  Apperently, via software and by use  
>of the computers serial line chip, the cost of getting on the air with  
>packet is greatly reduced.  I was wondering if you lose any features?  as  
>compared to say the full blown TNC's that cost over 100 dollars?
>
>also, any pointers to other kits that can be made for under 50 bucks 
>or any opinions from anyone that has made or tried any of the above
>greatly appreciated.
>
>john  N2RJE

I am using a Baypack BP-1 on an old (very old) Phillips Ibm compatible
without problems. My radio is an Icom Ic-w2a.

Clem. VE2HQJ
-- 
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   Analyste,                         |    Varennes, P. Quebec, Canada, J3X 1S1
   Division Informatique scientifique| Tel:+1 514 652 8238 Fax:+1 514 652 8309
   vaillan@ireq.hydro.qc.ca          |  Radio-amateur: VE2HQJ@VE2CSC.PQ.CAN.NA
From: RON@NSULA.EDU (Ron Wright - NSU Computer Center)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Converse/Chate Nodes
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:17:26 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I'm looking for information regarding the Converse/Chat Node software.
Hardware requirements, limitations, info on experiences, etc.

Thanks

Ron - KA5LUG

RON@ALPHA.NSULA.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: tadd@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu (Tadd Torborg)
Subject: Re: Problems: TheNet X1G
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:20:24 GMT

mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil writes:

>I've run into a problem with this version that I would be interested in
>knowing whether anyone else has experienced.

>Specifically... it is crashing.  I have tested it with 3 different
>Paccomm Micro-Powers, and what appears to happen is that the bank
>switching signal from pin 16 of the SIO is getting loaded down and
>then the whole thing bombs. This is a guess based on the loss of the
>flickering STA led, and a total lack of response from either the HDLC
>or serial port.   Need to put a scope on it, but have not done so yet.

>This symtom seems to occur right after a coldstart SOMETIMES.  When you
>turn the tnc on, the sta led comes on solid, starts to flicker, gives
>one bright "flick" and then dies... other times, you get the same thing
>but after the bright flick, it continues to run.  This may in some way
>be related to the specific tnc (??) and not the code itself... at this
>point it is hard for me to say.. but I'd be curious to know if anyone
>else has seen it.

>Thanks,

>Mark Bitterlich

Mark,
  You might lift pin 16 of the SIO and wire to it in free space.  Then
  the load will be only one device.  I've been jumpering pin 16 and 23,
  and pins 24 and 25 on the SIO while lifting pins 16 and 25.  This
  causes the STA and CON lights to show RS232 control line activity
  for matrix diagnostics.  Pin 16 and 25 are free for wiring too now.
	 Tadd, KA2DEW   tadd@cheetah.ece.clarkson.edu

>mgb@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
>wa3jpy@wb4uou.nc.usa.noam [Amateur Packet Radio address]
From: wildcat@utopia.hacktic.nl (wildcat)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: MBXA 64
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 23:04:34 GMT
Organization: UTOPIA

Hello,
 
I'm searching for the latest version of the Commodore 64 packet
radio program DIGIPROM MBXA 64.
 
I also want some info about Packet Radio from real HAM RADIO amateurs.
Because I'm not good how to explain it to other people.
 
I was asked by a dutch computer magazine to write an article about
Packet Radio. They want that I'll stimulate the dutch datacom
freaks. Well I'm already doing packet radio on 11m and it is great !
 
Greets
 
Wildcat Jr.


 ---
wildcat@utopia.hacktic.nl (wildcat)
Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 11:29:00 TUR
From: <C70861@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Ethernet driver

   The KA9Q TCP/IP package for radio amateurs includes an ETHERNET
dr`ver.Any help concerning how to access to the Un`x vers`on of th`s
dr`ver would be h`ghly apprec`ated.

     Please e-ma`l to :           c70861@TRMETU.BITNET
From: lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: UNIVERSITY PROJECT HELP!!!
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:22:14 GMT

Can anyone recommend a good reference work (either a journal article
or a book or any other source where I can find out something about
digital satellite packet radio protocols, especially pertaining to
UOSAT.

I have to design a satellite packet radio archiver this autumn so
I'll need all the reference work I can get.

Thanks!  All contributions (no matter how small) gratefully received.


-- 
Lawrence McIlhoney Esq., Department of Electronics
University of Southampton, United Kingdom.
"Live fast, die young, leave a good-looking corpse -
preferably someone else's."  E-mail lm89@uk.ac.soton.ecs
From: andyw@aspen32.cray.com (Andy Warner)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway newsgroup cfd?
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:56:33 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: andyw@aspen32


In article <11198@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu>, bill@platypus.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
> [....]
> If you can justify connecting thru the backdoor, you should be able to 
> justify a real connection.  And as for limited access, there are a lot of 
> companies that run firewall systems to limit access to their local networks.
> Doesn't this sound familiar??

It does, apart from the fact that most "firewalls" are set up to stop
protocol access, we actually require access to be controlled by
"content". It seems to me that the amateur community doesn't need to
worry about keeping incoming ftp/finger/nfs/etc requests out, but
we need to be wary of their content. [whether I like this state
of affairs is another thing altogether].

> Let's drop all this silly hide-and-seek garbage and take our place on
> the INTERNET where we belong.

I wish...
-- 
andyw.	N0REN/G1XRL

andyw@aspen.cray.com	Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc.	(612) 683-5835
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson)
Subject: Packet path to Chicago, IL:
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:51:38 GMT

73,
 
Ron
AK0N
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Programs for th HP95LX
Date: 27 Sep 1992 18:08:41 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <21970005@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> tcline@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Ted Cline) writes:
>> In rec.radio.amateur.packet, nk30@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (JEFF ZELL NK3O) writes:
>> Are there any FTP sites that would have PD or SW software for the HP95?
>You might try the Hewlett-Packard Calculator Bulletin Board,
>hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com :

Another good place to find HP95LX software is eddie.mit.edu, in the
/distrib/hp95lx (I think) directory. This site is mirrored at col.hp.com, as
well.
-- 
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    Vote for a REAL change on 3 November: Throw out the check-bouncing,
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: mark@adec23.uucp (Mark Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway Policy
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:52:22 GMT

lyndon@unbc.edu (Lyndon Nerenberg) sez:

>No joy. Any foole can forge moderated postings. The buck, as always, stops
>with the gateway operator.
Actually, there is joy. I doubt any self respecting fool would let ANY
message (- SOLAR reports :-) go through automatically, but it would be nice
if one can feel that the article has been poured over by at least one
individual `possibly' to make the duties of us crazed enough to read all
the articles in r.r.* groups just to find the tidbits ... Many have
(personally) indicated they would prefer a mailing list (also forgeable,
but at least out of sight, out of mind).

>As for SB/EX formatting: just what kind of archaic software are you running?
>Those aren't NNTP commands :-)
I may take this as a personal attack :-) My gateway has always offered
flow through sans the SB/EX stuff with even some imaginative BID handling
for packet. Now if I were only in an area that had packet connectivity :-}
The advantage of this format is any joe that wished to gateway articles need
only feed the article verbatum via his terminal emulation package and he be
fine !?

Now, if that were an attack on the packet system, well, what can I say ...
Maybe we set up the articles to look like SMTP messages to the packet board?

Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: mark@adec23.uucp (Mark Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway Policy
X-Amateur-Callsign: VE6MGS
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 17:15:13 GMT
Summary: Get a life! eaaah Xhoche tvoa sarracka, Chumm moeah sarracka !!!

vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail) sez:

> Many moons ago I suggested adding a field like "X-Amateur-Callsign: "
> to email and new articles.  This would be done by hams for stuff
> suitable to be forwarded automatically.
OK, and X-Amateur-Bid: I hope too, forgot the details, but I remember the
suggestion.

> Many people pointed the obvious ease at how this could be forged.  So
> what.  At least this is a starting point for trust and can be used to
> seperate certifiable stuff from articles that are not suitable for
> gateway.
I agree, but I can wonder out loud that we may not be saving the dedicated
gateway operators any trouble as they will read everything and pass nothing ...
(It won't for me).

But, then Lyndon/VE7TCP sez:

>Giving someone a false sense of security will only get them into trouble.
>Program a neophyte gateway operater to think that "X-Amateur-Approved"
>is OK then he probably will. That won't do anything to save his *** when 
>this posting makes it through the gateway.
I doubt, with the regulations in W or VE land, that we will EVER see automated
news to packet gateways (mail to packet `maybe' with some form of
authentication). I think that the only way this will happen is for someone
to gateway the messages and then forge their own address :-}

>Wishful thinking is not reality - don't confuse the two. If you really
>want to do something productive, start by looking at technology such as
>public key authentication.
On packet ... against the regs ... carry this to r.r.a.policy or
private e-mail if you disagree.

Over usenet (news) HAH! I'l make a naughty article, and Approve it for
distribution by acknowledging any encrypted authentication responses
and make you extremely happy.

>As a sidenote to those talking about writing "naughty bits" filters, how
See my Summary:

I think, Lyndon, you are too pessimistic about what people are capable of.
But I agree somewhat with your criticism if you (or others) could point to
a good RFC for doing this `safely'.

Lets say the mail list message goes out, then a authentication message goes
back (we are assuming that many of the gateway operators are NOT directly
on the wire, so e-mail level authentication), and then the message goes onto
packet. I'l lay odds the delay would be up to two days (as the moderator
would also have to read it to ensure it is OK, and he works regular hours).
`SOLAR STORM WARNING THIS AFTERNOON, HIDE UNDER SHEETS UNTIL 3PM TODAY'

My offer is still open to run a mailing list to the gateway operators that
want to start up this service. Send me e-mail indicating which messages of
interest you would be willing to clear for the community, or if you are
interested in receiving a mail list feed. I'l see what happens ...

Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet