HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Glockzin_Donald@macmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Donald Glockzin)
Subject: Re: IIsi question related to Apple XMAS special
Organization: Fort Worth Research & Development Center, Motorola, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:33:52 GMT

In article <4f=yA_q00WB3MIp5ZO@andrew.cmu.edu>, Faisal Nameer Jawdat <fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> osuch@acadia.Kodak.COM (Bill O'Such) writes:
> > I recently got a flyer from Apple for a XMAS special.  A MAC IIsi,
> > 3MB memory, 40MB hard disk, 14 inch color monitor, extended keyboard,
> > all for $1699.  It seems like a good deal (maybe too good) for home.
> > Are there any problems with the IIsi or is there something in this
> > deal that I'm missing.
> 
> Well that's such a ridiculously minimal configuration that I wouldn't
> ever consider it.  For any sort of serious use you'll need at least 5
> megs ram and an 80 meg hard drive, or system 7 will be a dog, and
> you'll run out of drive space in a flash.
> 
This deal really comes from the fact (or inside word) that Apple has many of 
these configurations in stock. They planned on this being a bigger seller, but 
most people rightly went for the 5/80 configuration. Apple doesn't want to 
change these systems. They would rather sell them cheaper. You should factor 
in four 1 Meg SIMMs and a replacement or external hard drive because you will
soon need them. [Four 4 Meg SIMMs may even be better.]

THANKS -- DG 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: "Windoze" slow? Naah...Re: pc and mac:
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:15:29 GMT

Two points to the IBM wonk who posted this thread:

1) According to the _Wall Street Journal_ and _USA Today_, Apple Computer
is now the number one seller of computers in the US today.  If you include
PC clones, then sure the number of "Intel-based" computers sold is higher,
but Apple sells more computers than IBM itself does.

2) Why are all those Macs sitting idle in your college's computer labs? 
Simple. The idiots running your computer science and business schools are
all operating under the old rule: "Nobody was ever fired for buying IBM." 
When students are ORDERED to carry out their programming and spreadsheet
assignments using PC programs on PC computers, of *course* they aren't
going to be using the Macs.  Here at NYU, OTOH, the departments aren't
nearly as IBM-anal, and both PCs and Macs get extensive use; on many
nights it's damn near impossible to get into ANY of the computers labs, no
matter what computers are sitting on the desks.

--Aaron


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Subject: Re: Quadra 700/Retrospect/Tape Backup Query
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:28:03 GMT

> 
> I'll second that.  I use Retro.SCSI with a Quadra 900, 28 MB RAM, 200 MB
> internal, system 7.0.1, etc with an Exabyte 8200 8mm tape drive.  No
> problems that I've seen.
> 

I have noticed that the writes are done in chunks...No streaming as when
I was able to run the RetroSCSI with a IIfx...I now use a Quadra 950....
That machine is also a server and the real bummer is that when you are
backing up there are freeze's on the Quadra (No other activity) when
Retrospect is doing some functions. I was hoping to use the Quadra to
perform Backups on other Networked Mac's during the day but since it
is a File Server it's a real bummer to have all other activity blocked
for untolerable periods......What ever happened to MultiTasking?????

*******************************************************************
Peter Haase                                   haase@meediv.lanl.gov
Los Alamos National Laboratory                Applelink: HAASE
Mechanical Electronic Engineering Division    505-667-2684
From: brown.c@applelink.apple.com (Chris Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Questions on VX and CD-ROM....
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:09:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <lcgordon.723536218@milton>, lcgordon@milton.u.washington.edu
(Lisa Claesson-Gordon) wrote:
> >  Secondly, I have also read that a VX with CD-ROM can transfer audio data
> >directly to the mac, so One could sample sounds from an audio-CD without ever
> >converting form digital to analog and then back. Would the same be possible if
> >you where to hook the external version of apple's new CD-ROM player to another
> >mac like a DUO or a CI?
> 
> I had this same misconception for awhile. It turns out that there are audio
> connectors inside the IIvx, which the CDi plugs into. So yes you can record 
> sound straight from the CD, but it's in analog form, not digital. (From what
> I've heard, only Iris machines have this capability with a specially modified
> Sony CD installed.)

The AppleCD 300i DOES have the capability to copy digital audio data
directly from CD through the SCSI port to your Macintosh. (The Iris CD-ROM
from SGI can also do this). This will be true of the external AppleCD 300
too. Look for a Tech Note from Apple if a few months or contact DTS if you
are a developer.


Chris Brown
Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Re: Video Card like MAZ
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:36:37 GMT

In <14DEC199213575130@donald.uoregon.edu> dpuckett@donald.uoregon.edu (David Puckett) writes:

>Does anyone make an 8-bit video card for a IIci that will fill in the unused
>borders of a 14 inch Apple color monitor a la MaxAppleZoom?

Yeah,

And why not ?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley)
Subject: Re: Cleaning Macs
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, UCLA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:17:02 GMT

>> electricity.... computers and static don't mix very well.  I believe that 3M
>> makes a vaccum cleaner that is designed for cleaning computers.  I think it
>> cost somewhere around $250. but I wouldn't know where to find one.  Joe

Air compressors seem to be a simpler choice. Blowing can be done from a further
distance than sucking (resolves the static problem). Works for me.
-- 
Bruce James Robert Linley | "Well, I tried shoving a weiner in the warp drive,
Comp Sci & Engr, UCLA     |  but it didn't do a bit o' good."
<linley@netcom.com>       | - Star Dreck, c/o Dr. Demento
<linley@seas.ucla.edu>    |
From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Duo/SCSI details
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:40:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>>When the Duo is "pretending" to be a SCSI disk for another Mac,
>>can you dock/undock the Duo without rebooting the desktop machine?
>
>Probably depends  on the machine it's hooked up to.
>
>The reason you probably haven't gotten any replies is simple: the MiniDock
>has not been released yet, and thus no one has really used it.

  There are two third party mini-docks on the market (maybe more).
Has anyone bought the "DeskNet" version with internal ethernet?
If so I'd like the specs...

                               -- Nick


-- 
   _/   _/  _/  _/_/_/   _/   _/  Sea Shells to C shells,  Waikiki to
  _/_/ _/  _/  _/   _/  _/_/_/     the Internet, a wave, is a wave...
 _/ _/_/  _/  _/       _/ _/                     
_/   _/  _/   _/_/_/  _/   _/  CompSrv: 71232,766 * I-Net: Nick+@pitt.edu
From: mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LaserWriter sucks up Cat
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:38:27 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Inc.
In-reply-to: eriks@lin.foa.se's message of 10 Dec 92 09:59:21 GMT


>YES! And a filter in the mac to make me write only bug free code that works as
>intended the first time!
>Erik Svensson			Research Officer
>Guided Weapons Division	National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
>Stockholm			Sweden

Actually, considering where you work, this sounds like it's a lot more
important than adding a cat tail filter!   :'>

			       _MelloN_
--
mellon@ncd.com						uunet!lupine!mellon
Member of the League for Programming Freedom - to find out how software
patents may cost you your right to program, contact lpf@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Fred Chen <flc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: LaserWriter sucks up Cat
X-Xxdate: Sun, 13 Dec 92 17: 49:27 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: flc1@cornell.edu
Organization: school
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:41:58 GMT

In article <987853.2B25E112@cmhgate.fidonet.org> Adam Frix,
Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG writes:
>DK> So Apple, how about a Kitty guard? Unfortunately, Cats don't 
>DK> read the generic warnings that came with the printer. I really 
>DK> like the quality and value of the printer. How much extra 
>DK> would I pay for more safety? At least $27. I knew I was cutting 
>DK> corners when I bought the printer since it did not include 
>DK> PostScript, but I really didn't expect this. 

MEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOUCH!!!
From: lee5@husc8.harvard.edu (Patrick Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Performa 600 - not a cripple!
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:40:02 GMT

jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods) writes:

>In <D2150056.kuuuce@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:
>>The correct machine to compare against the P600 is the IIci, not the
>>IIsi.

>Why?  Does it cost the same as a IIci?  According to MacWeek, the price of
>the Performa 600 (street $2000) is much closer to the IIsi (list $1999) than the
                   ------                                    ----
>IIci (list $2719).  Or are you comparing against the IIci in order to make
>sure that your claim that the Performa 600 is an inferior machine looks
>justified?  Heck, why not compare it against a Quadra 950?  A Cray 2?

Comparing the Performa street price to the IIsi list is hardly fair. 
IIsi's are considerably cheaper on the street, esp since they're now
orphaned with no upgrade path (sigh).  IIci's on the other hand, are a
much better comparison...

BTW, I much prefer the plastic cases as well.. I don't think it's Apple
trying to increase the RF friendliness as much as cutting corners, and it
results in a much uglier computer..

-Pat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: janus@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: how to receive faxes (?)
Summary: How does my software know a fax is coming?
Keywords: fax modems, receive
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:40:51 GMT

I have considered buying a fax/modem.  One queion that
probably has a smart answer, but I can't picture the
answer now.

How do I receive a fax?  I doubt I'd buy a new line just
for faxes.  Would someone have to tell me with voice
that they were about to send a fax?  Then I switch something
over to receive fax mode?  Or do I listen and hear a tone and
turn it on?  Any simple answers?  Also any recommendations
on fax/modems?  I think I'd like a data modem at least with 96000
bps.

Louis Janus
janus@staff.tc.umn.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:27:24 EST
From: <KCR103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Hard Drive Partitioning

I am interested in setting up the Macintoshes on our network with two
partitions on the hard drive.  One read/write boot partition and the other for
applications.  This will prevent the novice uses from trashing the application
files constantly.
Apple utilities for system 6.07 (our IIsi's have only 2 Megs, budget cuts),
only allow for one HFS partition, and one Unix partition.  I want two HFS
partitions.  Is there a third party utility that creates such a partition.  I
also do not want one of these pseudo partitions where just an encrypted file
is placed on the Hard drive.  Presently we use class reunion constantly, and
I am curious if there is a better way.

Thanks in advance,

Ken
From: gk1@acpub.duke.edu (Gavin  Kistner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: EMERGENCY IIfx problem FIXED!
Summary: "It was a miracle that dun it."
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:34:12 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Just in case any of you folk were worrying, the IIfx that wouldn't boot is
fixed.  I don't know if it is posessed or what, but my guess is that it was
just feeling a bit more ornery than usual because I let strange people play
games on it.

Really, my only guess is that it was a (the V-word comes) VIRUS.  The last
of all those things I tried was the PRAM zap, but never powered off and on
again after doing so.  I just happened to drop my wallet onto the on button
as I threw it on the desk, and the computer started up, happy as can be.
P'rhaps there's a virus which sticks itself into PRAM and doesn't allow
booting?  (Is this possible?)

At least it wasn't a hardware problem.  Whew!  

_____________________________________________________________________________
Gavin Kistner                 "Damn the hard drive!  Full Install ahead!"
gk1@acpub.duke.edu                No, I don't speak for Duke.  Duh. 
_____________________________________________________________________________
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: what can I get for about $2K?
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


What can you get for $2000?

about $7000 canadian...


Sorry, just a little punchy---

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | "Women- can't live with 'em, pass the beer nuts" -Norm
              | "Do you like children?
              |   That depends on how you cook them..."- WC Fields
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: Deskwriter turned off locks up PB160
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:26:18 GMT

I had an interesting experience this weekend.  My nephew was using my
PB160, and went to print something on the HP Deskwriter (which is connected
via a serial connection, not via Appletalk).  Nobody had turned the
Deskwriter on, and the PB160 locked up completely (the HP Print Monitor
window came up, halfway drawn, before it died).  No combination of
keystrokes or mouse action could produce any response - not command-., not
even the power switch.  I finally had to hit the hidden reset button with a
paper clip.  I believe I have the latest Deskwriter drivers.  Is this a
known bug?  Would this not occur if I had it hooked up via Appletalk (which
I've been considering anyway, so I don't have to reboot to turn Appletalk
on to use ARA)?

----------
Bill Walker - WWalker@qualcomm.com - QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA
All opinions expressed are mine, and do not reflect those of my employer.
"First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers." - Shakespeare
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Nazedgi@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (nazedgi)
Subject: Re: Mac OS in PC
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Public Macs, Yale University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:12:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.170646.3329@dunix.drake.edu>, kjt001@dunix.drake.edu
(Devil Bunny!) wrote:
> 
> As far as porting the macintosh interface to the IBM, I think that would
> be about as difficult as putting Windows on the IBM.  The Macintosh was
> optimized for it's particular interface; most of the routines are in
> ROM, and it's not the same with windows.  If it were possible to make an
> interface as good as the macintosh's on the IBM, Microsoft probably
> would have made windows that good.  The quality of windows is not based
> on the quality of the company so much as the quality of the machine
> you're writing it for  <my opinion>.
The code that's in the Macintosh ROM can very well be part of the system
software. Whatever is on the ROM's can reside on the Hardware and loaded
into memory every time you boot up the machine. Aren't the routines in ROM
shadowed into RAM in macintosh anyway? ROMs are slower so it wouldn't make
sense to run the routines from ROM. Am I correct? I know that ROM is
shadowed into RAM on PC's for the same reason.
As far as your last statement I believe is incorrect.  PC hardware does not
preclude having a good operating system. (OS/2 for example is an excellent
OS, better than the MAC OS as far as I'm concerned. OS/2 is not as elegant
as the MAC OS though.) In fact, PC users will soon have NextStep running on
a 486; one of the nicest OS I've ever seen. It combines the versatility and
power of Unix with the most elegant GUI in the market right now.
From: shawn@ucrmath.ucr.edu (shawn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: Wanted: Info on support for Aapps Digivideo Color
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:05:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: galaxy.24509
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Riverside

Does anyone know who took over support for the Aapps Digivideo Color Board?
They don't answer their phone and their online support forums are gone.
If some company is still supporting it, I would like to get ROMS/software
that will support 32 bit addressing and any software upgrades.

Please e-mail me if you know.

////////////////////////////////////|\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
/ Shawn L. Lynn                     | The hall is rented; the orchestra, \
/ shawn@ucrmath.ucr.edu             | engaged.  It's now time to see if  \
/ ucsd!ucrmath!shawn 714/424-6574   | you can dance.  - Q                \
////////////////////////////////////|\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
From: sjk@netcom.com (Shel Kaphan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SCSI questions
Keywords: SCSI, Nubus
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:59:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


I have some questions about hooking things up to the Mac SCSI bus.

- Are there any Nubus boards that give you a second SCSI bus? If so,
what's the software interface look like?  Apparently the SCSI manager
in the Mac system is really just designed for one SCSI bus.
If such boards exist, who makes them?  

- If one wanted to hook up a "raw" disk drive, i.e. one that does NOT
contain a filesystem (but IS formatted!), is it necessary to supply a
driver?  Or can one simply get bits on/off it using the SCSI manager?
Or does the SCSI manager somehow depend on the driver being there?

Thanks, responses => sjk@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dan@dyndata.uucp (Dan Everhart)
Subject: Power switch on IIx
Reply-To: dan@dyndata.com
Organization: Dynamic Data & Electronics
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:39:51 GMT

I remember reading that there was something funny about the power
switch on the Mac IIx, but I didn't pay close attention because I
never had problems with mine ... until today.  

There was a power outage and now neither the keyboard switch nor the
button on the back of the case will turn the power on.  Please tell me
what the nature of this problem is and how to get around it.  I think
I remember reading that it was a design problem and that there was a
fix available from Apple, but this computer is so old that I'd be
content with an explanation of how to fix it myself.  Emailed
responses preferred.  Thanks.

--
   _                                         dan@dyndata.com
  / \_   Dan Everhart                        uunet!{camco,fluke}!dyndata!dan
  \_/ \____________________________          206-743-6982, 742-8604 (fax)
  / \_/                                      7107 179th St SW
  \_/    Dynamic Data & Electronics          Edmonds, WA 98026, USA 

"Rhe rone rike, rhe rone rike... rhorane" -- Astro sings "Cocaine"
From: nodine@lcs.mit.edu (Mark H. Nodine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook/Duo keyboards
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:25:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

In article <BRUNER.92Dec17155142@sp10.csrd.uiuc.edu>, bruner@sp10.csrd.uiuc.edu (John Bruner) writes:
|> Can an ADB keyboard (e.g., an Apple extended keyboard) be plugged in
|> to a Powerbook and used in place of the built-in keyboard?

Yes, it can.  Just be sure it doesn't draw too much power from 
the ADB port, or you'll reduce your battery life to nurtz.

	--Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: steve@intellection.com (Steve Martin)
Subject: Re: Warning:  Duo's incompatible with Before Dark
Organization: Intellection, Inc.
Distribution: All
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:57:03 GMT

In article <1gis4tINNl6f@news.aero.org> lau@aero.org (David D. Lau) writes:

     My experience concerns the hard disk crashing all the time whenever I
   was for to do a hard shutdown (system freezes or bombs).  The Disk Tools
   floppy would respond with "This disk is damaged. Do you want to Initialize?"
   The cuplrit was Bafore Dark.  This nifty sharware utility changes the
	...

   Evidently the Volume Information Block gets corrupted.  It requires MacTools2.0
   to repair otherwise your only solution is to reformat.  This is a pain because
   NO ONE has System 7.1 Emergency Utility disks out there.  Creating your
   own is close to impossible.  A minimum system 7.1 floppy takes up about
   1.2 Meg of space.  Neither MacTools or Norton can fit.

Before Dark is not the only thing that can cause this problem.  I had
problems with DiskExpress II, Now Startup Manager and with NowMenus
(the NowMenus one went away when I reformatted the drive using Hard
Disk ToolKit).  I'm not real confident that it won't happen again.  As
more and more people get Duos I'm seeing more and more reports (at
least 4 so far counting myself) of this kind of hard disk trashing on
the Duo's.  It appears to be a problem with the IBM drive.
From: alan@metasoft.UUCP (Alan Epstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PowerBook 10M RAM cards... availability?
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:58:08 GMT
Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA

jaesyn@carson.u.washington.edu (Jason Smith) writes:
>....  Does *anyone* else have
>these cards yet?  I've called the major mail order houses, and they all gave
>me a resounding 'No' as of 3 days ago.

My dealer, Peripheral Outlet (OK), claims they will have them in January.


-----------------------------
Alan Epstein
Meta Software Corp		 Internet:  alan@metasoft.com
Cambridge, MA 02140  USA	      
-----------------------------