From: fardoun_a@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Elections in Lebanon
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:47:16 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder



In article <1992Sep1.102554.29665@ulrik.uio.no>, eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.042149.20878@dmpe.csiro.au> zughbi@dmpe.csiro.au (another
> phoenics person) writes:
>>
> 
> 1.
> 2.
> 3.
> 4.
> 5.
> 6.
> 7.
> 
> etc.
> 
> I second this phoenics person's thoughts.
	I am as a lebanese do not second him 
> I would add some of my own obeservations:
> 
> 8. I myself saw on French news (TV5 Europe) that there were
>    people (I do not know whom they represented) who stood
>    outside the polling stations and put a list in the hands
> 	of people saying: This "IS" the list that you should
> 	choose.
> 
> 9. Jim Muir reported on BBC 30.8.92 that he himself had seen
> 	some 1000 (yes one thousand) names whose date of birth
> 	was in the 1800's indicating tha Lebanon was the best
> 	place in the world  to live f you want live long.
> 
> 10. note what a LebNetter wrote:
>  
> Subject: Re: "Elections Are they REAL !!!!"
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92
> 
> I would like to share this story with everyone because to me it was a kind of
> personal experience.  Last week, my mother came from Lebanon to visit me in the
> United States.  I was really happy for her presence and I was also happy to
> hear from her about Lebanon.  My first question to my mother was "mom did you
> elect ?" she replied "yes off course" but I felt that she said it with irony. 
> I asked her "tell me mom what
> happened" , she answered "Let me tell you the story ":
> 
> 	" On Sunday the first day of election after your dad insisted that I go and
> elect I said to myself why not.  So I took your nefew  and went to the School
> where people casted their ballets.  I had all the documents and my Lebaneese
> Identification with me.  When I approached the place where they check the
> records, the man that checked my record told me well Mrs ... you allready have
> elected !!! and he continued .. Did you want to elect twice ?? .  I told him
> that there is a mistake I did not elect yet, but the man insisted that I did
> and Even he showed me who I elected.  I was shocked and I walked away cussing
> ... on them and their election.  That 's the real story of the election my son
> "
>  
> 
> 11. Again more important than the actual rigging and
> 	cheating, is the way the process got started. THe aim
> 	with elections is to let the people be represented and
> 	not to find some sort of legitimacy for some government.
> 	Note for example that one of the first things the Hrawi
> 	regime did, was to change the Lebanese passports. THis
> 	cost the country a fortune,
	it was about time to change the passports since some of them were
printed by the illegitimate goverment of Aoun and besides the fact that 
every organization were issuing some faked passports (PLO,......etc.)
> 
> Lebanese want elections. We want better elections than we had in the past.
 it is better than what we had in the past in 1982 the representives of the 
some of the lebanese and phonicians were brought by the israelis to the 
parliment people to elect the israeli with lebanese passport bashir al-gameyel.
 
> We do not want elections that will serve individuals and/or governments. We
> want elections that are for the best of Lebanon.
 there is no ideal goverment and I agree this goverment or the coming one
is not and will not be the perfect one or the best one, however it is 
much better than the old ones. 
> Note the peole who were *NOT* included in the electoral process: Lebanese
> abroad, any one who openly and verbally opposes the Syrian occupation of
> Lebanon.
in many parliment elections all over the world people abroad are not included.
and this does not mean that the people are not included in the process. I 
personally against the syrian presence in lebanon at the mean time but I 
do support as many others the elections in lebanon.
> elie wardini
	A. A. Fardoun
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