From: aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo Pinkas)
Subject: Re: persecution complex
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:28:36 GMT

In article <jbash54@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
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>I love this...  Here is my take on some of the last conversations
>that have occured on this group.
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>AAP comes in and says that homosexuals are inherently disfunctional
>parents and therefore should not be "allowed" to have children.  

No. AAP, and I know him quite well, said nothing about homosexuals being
inherently disfunctional parents. 
He said that homosexual parents, shearing children, and this was they 
way all started, cannot give those children a socially acceptable image
of the society itself.
Also, he did not said that homosexuals should not be allowed. As you
said, there is nothing he can do, and as far as I know, there is nothing 
he wants to do about it.

 


>Homosexuals see this attack, and say "say what?  I know lots of homosexual
>parents, and they are all wonderful parents."  AAP, at the same time
>says, "See, Freud says that it is so" and "I am just expressing my opinion".
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What does is mean to be a "Wonderfl parent"?
That is a quite important, and not defined concept. Here, in the USA, 
each ethnic group has a different idea about that.
So, As far as I know, AAP was expressing an opinion based on some known
data. Now, you may agree or not. 

>Then, he posts something saying how he is being "attacked".
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If I understood OK, AAP just said that there is a double standard in this
net. What is said by GLB is assumed to be true. Otherwise, it is assumed 
to be wrong or possibly wrong.
Furthermore, some people, like Sra. Nora, lied bout him.

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>Look, if you (heterosexuals) are going to post something concerning
>homosexuals, with whom you have no direct experience, which homosexuals
>consider an "attack" (telling us that we should not be allowed to do something
>is such a thing), you start the battle.  Don't feel that you are persecuted
>for being heterosexual, you are being persecuted because you are telling
>us things about our lives without the benefit of any first hand experience.

This is quite interesting. If you can only talk when having first hand 
experience, then, most sciences might have never be developed.
AAP did not say that you should not be allowed. He said that shearing kids
was not a good idea, and that he thought that GLB parents present a 
possible source of trauma for the kids.
At least, lest try to be honest.
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>Using Adolfo as an example, this would be like my telling him what was
>wrong with families in Argentina.  I can quote all sorts of papers, and all
>sorts of "experts" but I only know of three families from Argentina, so I
>have no clue as to whether this is actually true.  It would be rather bold
>of me to make any conclusions on this, correct?  It would be rather paranoid
>of me to think that when I get attacked for expressing these opinions that
>all non-argentinians are always wrong while all argentinians are right.


Actually, there are quite interesting works about Argentina written by
people who read papers and met with a few of the people in Argentina.
Sometimes, you should be able to look a yourself from outside of 
yourself (is this clear?).


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