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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Akira CRI date, was Re: Beauty & the Beast Box Set
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:41:09 GMT

In article <#xcnh!=@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>
>I hope to find the Criterion Akira in my mailbox before the weekend though. :-)

Not likely.  A person I spoke to at Voyager on August 25th said it 
wouldn't be out until October.  She also didn't know anything about the
"super-deluxe" set with actual storyboards and cels which was a rumor
I read about somewhere...

-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Paramount no chapters, was Re: Temple of Doom Caveat
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 16:31:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.070626.151@polari> lthompsn@polari.online.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.160323.2126@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>>
>>They usually do good transfers from good sources.  But why oh why do
>>they never use chapter encoding?  I haven't seen the new Indy discs
>>yet, but I suspect they have no chapters either. ... 
>
>The new indy discs (well I don't like Temple of Doom so I didn't buy it) are
>chapter encoded.

Well, that's what I get for speaking in ignorance (he said with red face).
I have now seen the new Indy discs -and checked the old ones which, some
one else pointed out, also have chapters.  Does anyone know why Paramount
chapter encoded these but has used chapters on almost (being cautious now)
none of their other disc releases?

-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Tuesday, 25 Aug 1992 17:07:59 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: 5000 Fingers of Dr T

I figured this was important to me, so it might be important to someone
else out there:  The 5000 Fingers of Dr T has had its price reduced for
VHS.  It's now available at $19.95 instead of $59.95.  Which of course
means everybody should go out and buy a copy (well, those of us without
a LD player).

Steve Hill                                       SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET
Data Communications Technician           William Rainey Harper College
Information Systems department         1200 W Algonquin Rd Palatine IL
-------"No one in power taking blame."-----Skinny Puppy---------------
From: bates@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Andrew Bates)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Raiders/Temple of Doom:  ARRRGGGHHH!!!!
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:47:20 GMT
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division


    Yep, the LBX versions of Raiders of the Lost Ark and Indiana Jones and the
Temple of Doom are in at the local Laserdisc store (LaserForce in Sunnyvale).
I saw 'em behind the counter.  BUT...the street date is not until Thursday!!
AUUUgggGHh!  I guess I'll have to wait it out, but it's really frustrating,
especially after waiting for so long....:(

					      Andy Bates.
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: * Starman's LD review: Raiders of the Lost Ark
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:52:27 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Jaime Villacorte writes:
> 
> Posted: 28 Aug 92 23:37:23 GMT
> 
>         As an aside, does anyone know why Paramount changed the type-face
> of the opening credits and the beginning of the closing credits? In my VHS
> copy, the letters were all solid, but the LD version had an outline
> typestyle.
> 


As far as I can remember, the outline credits are the correct ones. The solid
credits must have been created for the P&S (and TV) presentations. The main
title in Temple of Doom which is behind Kate Capshaw is also different in width
between the P&S and LBX versions.

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 06:21:56 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

By the way -- has anyone heard a release date for that letterboxed/CAV
director's cut edition of _Piranha II: The Spawning_ yet? 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: New T2 ? (was Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 18:29:14 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:

>> We'll see how _The Abyss_ and _T2_ fare under similar treatment.  (I'm
>> betting it helps _The Abyss,_ by the way.) 
>
> So is there yet another version of T2 coming out? I got the CAV LBX set
> when it came out. What will different?  

It's in the planning stages.  The new edition would presumably contain
added footage (as detailed in the _Making Of T2_ book) and a real
section of supplements.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

The flight director says "GET BACK IN!"
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:34:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <1992Sep3.184746.7186@adobe.com>, bennett@adobe.com (Bennett Leeds) writes:
> 
> Stephen Jonke writes
> >... and you'd still be stuck with lots of
> > blue "Searching chapter xxx" screens in the middle of the movie -- as if
> > side breaks weren't enough already! 
> 
> 
> I apologize for the tangential nature of my comment, but this is where a
> player with a DTBC really shines. With the DTBC, it "stills" on the
> last field while searching for the chapter, and if you turn Film-Mode on
> you don't even get the "Searching..." message. Pretty slick.
> 

I presume they've improved it then.  A friend who has last years high end
Pioneer has a similar feature, but there is a significant delay between
when the side ends and when the still comes up.  In fact, it's pretty darn
silly in my opinion.  It was more annoying then anything else.  However,
I never saw what it did during chapter searching -- is it instantaneous
then?  If it were instantaneous at the end of a side, it would be very nice.

> Also, I think Pioneer may have replaced the blue screen with black. At least on  
> the D701 Pause gives you a black screen instead of blue
> 

Yes, I wish mine went to black at the end of a side.  The blue screen
of my Sony MDP-333 is distracting when the room is somewhat dark.
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: mike@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: Anyone have SF Theater or Lost Missle?
Organization: SF-Bay Public-Access Unix
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:51:06 GMT

[]

Anyone have or know of the availability of the old 50s series
"Science Fiction Theater" and the 1965 film "Lost Missle"?

mike

-- 
"There is no problem too big that can't be solved with high explosives"-Rush

Mike Smithwick - ames!zorch!mike
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: TRON on free DISNEY this weekend, was Re: Looking for Tron LD
From: claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight))
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:39:11 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com says:
>Videorama might have Tron on LaserDisc  (their latest catalog claims it)
>they are an EXCELLENT source for hard to find LaserDiscs. You will end up
>paying list price but if you cannot find the disc anywhere else, paying the
>extra $3-$5 dollars should not be a big deal.  I have dealt with them a number
>of times and have been very happy.

Well, gave them a buzz and no can do.  Called another place and they said $75
for a used American release copy.  Erg...I'm not THAT much of a fan.  I'd be
willing to pay $75 for an unopened/letterboxed edition but certainly not used
non-letterboxed.  The store in question has one copy left if someone else wants
it they can drop me email and I'll forward the address/phone #.
-- 
---King Claudius---                                   claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu
From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: GHOSTBUSTERS on laserdisc: Criterion & RCA/Columbia differences?
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:21:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2GCD.GMG
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


     I just noted one thing though.  It isn't just the Laser Video File
     that states the Criterion as 98 minutes.  On the back of the Criterion
     disc it mentions it
     it's  98 minutes as well.

     Still perplexed,
     Jason
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Criterion Prince of Tides LD
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:25:48 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Marcia Hoppers writes:
> 
> Posted: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:48:0
> 
> Has anyone heard why the Criterion director's cut of the Prince of Tides
> has been cancelled?
> 
> Marcia


The rumours I'm hearing about this are quite simple. The director's cut has
been cancelled because of ... the director! It seems that La Streisand had
complete and utter control over the release of this disk, and since it doesn't
come up to her lofty standards it ain't gonna hit the stores. I also hear that
Criterion had somewhere between 3 and 5 thousand copies of this thing already
pressed and ready for release, and they are VERY pissed off.

Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: Taping over legal copy of movie
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:52:00 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: na

In article <27AUG199210314550@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, kimnach@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH) writes:
|> I have a few questions about copying LDs, and I give the answers I 
|> consider appropriate.  But, what is the concensus of the net? 
|> 
|>   (1) Would I be infringing upon copyrights if I were to record a P&S LD 
|> version of a movie over a "legal" copy of the movie?  (Probably not)  
|> 
|>   (2) If I were to copy a LBX version over the "legal" copy?  (Possibly)
|> 
|>   (3) If I were to copy a LBX/Supplemental version over the "legal" copy? 
|> (Definately, since I've gotten more than I originally paid for.)
|> 
|> I ask these because of the improvement I can gain in recording in SuperBeta 
|> over the original Beta release.  (The same would hold for those of you who 
|> would drill a "recognition hole" in a VHS copy and record in S-VHS.)
|> 
|> Now if only owning a copy of a tape version of a movie would justify
|> copying an LD onto ED Beta.....Oh well, I won't lose sleep over this!
|> 
|> Greg
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
|>     ED-Beta: Simply THE BEST!
|>                 Remember: The crow flies in square circles.
|>                            "Either do or do not!  There is no 'try!'"--Yoda 
|>    "It's not what we do, it's what we know.  And we know what to do!"
|>                                                                 --R. Lebron
|>  Another version:
|> "It's not what you know, it's what you do.  And you don't know what to do!"
|> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you're really concerned with legality, buy the LD, tape it, then put the LD
away and don't use it.  This is %100 legal as long as you keep posession of the
disc.  However, I am not sure why you would do this unless if you don't own
a LD player and want to use someone else's to do the copying.  You can not
legally copy someone else's LD on to a tape (even if the tape originally held
the same movie).

Sam
From: zitt!joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Eraserhead?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 09:45:31 CDT
Organization: Metatron Press / Human Systems Performance Group, Austin, TX

singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George Gjerde) writes:

> Eraserhead is not available on video in the US (it has been in England but th
> on PAL) (I've got it!).

I've seen it at Blockbuster Video out here.

--
"Go to an extreme and then retreat to a more useful position"  --  Brian Eno
Joe Zitt 	       ...cs.utexas.edu!kvue!zitt!joe  	       (512)450-1916
From: kimnach@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Taping over legal copy of movie
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:31:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I have a few questions about copying LDs, and I give the answers I 
consider appropriate.  But, what is the concensus of the net? 

  (1) Would I be infringing upon copyrights if I were to record a P&S LD 
version of a movie over a "legal" copy of the movie?  (Probably not)  

  (2) If I were to copy a LBX version over the "legal" copy?  (Possibly)

  (3) If I were to copy a LBX/Supplemental version over the "legal" copy? 
(Definately, since I've gotten more than I originally paid for.)

I ask these because of the improvement I can gain in recording in SuperBeta 
over the original Beta release.  (The same would hold for those of you who 
would drill a "recognition hole" in a VHS copy and record in S-VHS.)

Now if only owning a copy of a tape version of a movie would justify
copying an LD onto ED Beta.....Oh well, I won't lose sleep over this!

Greg
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ED-Beta: Simply THE BEST!
                Remember: The crow flies in square circles.
                           "Either do or do not!  There is no 'try!'"--Yoda 
   "It's not what we do, it's what we know.  And we know what to do!"
                                                                --R. Lebron
 Another version:
"It's not what you know, it's what you do.  And you don't know what to do!"
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From: wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Is the LBX Excalibur OK?
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:12:27 GMT

smah@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Steve Mah) writes:


>I've noticed that a few people have posted saying that their copies
>of the new Excalibur LD had some slight defects- are these just
>isolated incidents or is it widespread?  (i.e. is there someone out
>there with a disc without any defects?) 

From the 3 people I know who have it, and the talk on the net, it's
just an "ok" pressing.  I've got a few spots with white specs, as does
everyone I know.  They aren't in the same places on any of our discs,
but are always in the same place on a particular disc.  I was also
unimpressed by both the grainy quality of the print, and the
relatively boring soundtrack.  The original soundtrack may have just
been boring (when I say boring, I mean mostly center channel
information, nothing wrong with the content, just the presentation),
so it that may not be their fault, but the picture quality is not what
I hope for with movies I really like.

--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Criterion (was: Beauty & the Beast Box Set)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:48:58 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) writes:

> I thought Akira wasn't going to be out until October. I heard the guy
> who was in charge of this at Criterion was involved in some kind of
> accident. 

Last I heard couple weeks ago, the street date was still 26 August --
yesterday as I post this.  Anyone seen it in the stores yet? 

> Speaking of Criterion, rumours are flying that they're going out of
> business (again). The fiasco with Prince of Tides apparently has really
> given them a punch in the pocketbook. 

This business of their doing first-video-run releases like _Prince Of
Tides,_ _The Fisher King,_ and _Boyz In The Hood_ strikes me as being
*really* ill-advised.  I'd hate to see it bring them down, but if
anything could, that'd be the thing that did it.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"Wild hearts run out of time"
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 16:12:33 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: 5000 Fingers of Dr T

In article <00bn8wa@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) says:
>Is _5000 Fingers_ out on disc?  It certainly deserves to be, and if it is,
>I'd rather get that than the tape.
>Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Yes, it is.  It was released about a year ago.  I'm afraid I don't have
the particulars, but last time I was in the Tower Records in Chicago, they
had several copies.  I don't have a laserdisc player yet, but when I do,
this'll be one of my first discs to buy.
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: davest@sequent.com (David C. Stewart)
Subject: More Letterboxing Heresy
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 20:19:23 GMT

EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu (Young Indy) writes:

>I don't know how many others out there had the same experience I had watcing
>Raiders in letterbox for the first time in 11 years, but I honestly couldn't
>believe the feeling I got when I was done watching it.

	I have tried hard to make sure that all of the films in my
(limited) LD collection are in the correct aspect ratio where possible.
Sometimes it isn't, of course, because the title has not appeared in
anything but pan and scan.

	Letterboxing is said to be more acceptable on LDs than VHS
because LDs have a higher resolution, so the loss in detail is not
significant.

	However, I have to admit that the aspect ratio/resolution tradeoff
really bothers me sometimes.  I feel like I get more acceptable resolution
results from pictures with a 1.85:1 aspect ratio rather than 1.22:1 or
greater.  For an example, I was watching the new Raiders LBX release
in my local video store on a large direct view screen (around 35" or
so) and started to get bothered by the lack of resolution.  As an
example, queue up the scene where Indy and Marian are on the dock
about to board the freighter with the Ark.  Note how the edge of
Indy's fedora is rough with lots of jaggies -- at least, this effect was
noticible in the setup at the LD store.

	More examples: in the Star Wars trilogy, most stars are *always*
twinkling, because in the (I think) 2.35:1 aspect ratio, every star
is on at most one scan line, and the story rollup in the beginning is
almost illegible.  These effects are not as much of a problem at 1.33:1,
even though I would in general not wish to trade my widescreen format
disks for P&S.

	The other problem I have with films wider than 1.85:1 is that
I find myself sitting really close to my 27" screen to get a sense
of being close enough to the screen action to "lose myself" in the
picture.

	I suppose this sounds like heresy in this newsgroup, but
I'm interested if others have the same feeling.
-- 
David C. Stewart                       	uunet!sequent!davest
Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.		davest@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Alien S.E
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:01:12 GMT

In article <SS.92Sep1133159@realsoon.WPI.EDU> ss@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>It will be released October 1st (or so they say). If you order it from
>Sight and Sound you can get it for 15% off. I thought it was 3-discs
>for the movie (6 sides) with the 4th disc for suppliments.

No, I'm reasonably certain it's 6 sides (i.e. 3 discs) total, 4 for the
movie (which is under 2 hours) and 2 for the supplemental junk.
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: 5000 Fingers of Dr T
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:35:31 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:

> The 5000 Fingers of Dr T has had its price reduced for VHS.  It's now
> available at $19.95 instead of $59.95.  Which of course means everybody
> should go out and buy a copy (well, those of us without a LD player). 

Is _5000 Fingers_ out on disc?  It certainly deserves to be, and if it is,
I'd rather get that than the tape.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"They told me I was gullible . . . and I BELIEVED them!"
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Temple of Doom Caveat
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:20:40 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280

>>>>> On 26 Aug 92 03:07:23 GMT, Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) said:

Mike_Quigley> The side break at the end of side two seems in a
Mike_Quigley> particular stupid place. It happens just after Short
Mike_Quigley> Round starts smashing on his chains. You can even hear a
Mike_Quigley> bit of the next scene which is in the cave of the thugee
Mike_Quigley> cult. No doubt whoever made this decision didn't want to
Mike_Quigley> interrupt the non-stop action which follows. 

The set was originally 2 sides, but went to 3 to make for a better
break to the next side. Watched it last night, and the quality was
very good. Equal to the Star Trek LBX movies. Paramount does a nice
job.

--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Indy Jones LBX (x 2)
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:59:00 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Although the official release date for these two disks is Aug 27th, apparently
many stores in the States have them for sale already. I picked up both locally
this afternoon. The letterboxing on my TV which is somewhat overscanned is
about 2.1 to 1, which makes me think it is correct. Having scanned briefly
through both, the picture looks exceptionally clear and the colors are sharp.
Quite a lot of detail lost with the P&S is apparent!
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Is the LBX Excalibur OK?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:18:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <wallich.715309947@pepper>, wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich) writes:
> 
> been boring (when I say boring, I mean mostly center channel
> information

I have a plain jane Dolby Surround system (not pro logic).  But, if it is all
center channel sound, aren't you better off not using the center speaker?
That way all the sound goes to the higher quality (one would hope!) main
speakers and it should sound better.

Steve
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Alien S.E
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:22:01 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center

In article <BOV.92Sep1120027@essex.x.co.uk>, bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon) writes:
> 
> What upcoming Alien S.E. - Tell me more...
> 

I believe the release date in the US is October something or other.  It's
going to be a package like Aliens S.E., but all of the extra scenes will be
placed in the supplement sections instead of the movie itself.  It's a 3 disc
CAV, letterboxed (matted?  Don't know which) set.  The movie is on the first
4 sides and the other 2 are filled with extras.  Among lots of other stuff
will be an interview with Ridley Scott and storyboard to actual movie
comparisons.  The new tranfer is being supervised by Scott.  List price will
be the same as for Aliens S.E., that is, $100 (US).  That's all I know about
it so far.  Any body else have more detailed info?

Steve
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