HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cow@isi.edu (Master Cow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Babak Meeeeeeeeeeeewees again!
Keywords: Bull Shit!
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:17:12 GMT
Organization: A news

Babak Sehari (Tooleh Gave)  writes:
> 
> American girls are thought to honor and love their husbands.  Whereas,
> Iranian girls are thought to break their husbands and put a saddle behind
> their husband's back!  This is one of the most important reasons that many
> Iranian man usually escape from Iranian women.  I believe, this fact
> even has contributed to more than %40 single rate in Iran.  The problem
> is that the potential mother-in-laws, while teaching their daughter how to
> correctly saddle their future husbands, have forgotten to tell their daughters
> that you should catch a horse first, then you could saddle him.  Therefore,
> you see these amateur horse trainers approach the Iranian men with saddle in
> hand! -:)
> 

Meeeeeeew  Babak,

Did your mother beat your father again?  What is it that you have against
women, espcialy persian women?  Hah?  

You don't deserve to be a cow!  As of now,  you are fired from the COW
society!  May all cow and claves dump their load on you!!

Master cow!  MeeeeeeeeeeeeeeWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:03:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.174010.12905@Princeton.EDU> bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi) writes:

>unfortunately seyyed, your probability theory "be darde ammat meekhoreh".

I bet my ammeh did understand the above reasoning, but you obviously didn't.

>in your ingenious derivation of the above problem, you seem to be
>missing the given fact that "first you pick #1 and then you are told
>that #2 is empty. so as usual, your 5 year old attention span has
>caused you to be wrong, next time read the whole problem before
>answering.
...
>behzad

It doesn't make any difference Behzad jAn, you don't change anything by
"choosing" or "picking" something. Or maybe you have supernatural powers!
Instead of continuing a simple mistake like this, why don't you ask 
someone who knows probability theory? Hey, I remember shahrokh once told
us that he has a major in mathematics. Why don't you ask ostAd himself?
I am very eager to know his opinion on this to see whether his degree in
math is like his Ph.D. in adabiyyAt or like his diploma in flat jokes.

Seyyed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nasser@nasser.net.com (Nasser Modiri)
Subject: ******* THE BRAIN NEWS LETTER *********
Organization: NETWORK EQUIPMENT TECHNOLOGIES
Location: Redwood City
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:19:00 GMT


			NEWS		NEWS		NEWS

				     by 
		    		Nasser Modiri

	Redwood City, CA. October 1992: The NOOR group is happy to introduce 
	to you the BRAIN newsletter.

	"The BRAIN newsletter published in English in Iran is an indenpendent
	monthly newsletter which reflects the evolving computer market and
	industry in Iran. BRAIN's mission is to provide uptodate information
	to both Iranian industry and academia with coverage of: Reviews of
	Software and Hardware products; News of upcoming events; and analysis
	of the international computing markets.
	BRAIN keeps businesses as well as individual of the Information 
	Technology community informed about the latest developments in the
	country."

BRAIN is available through subscription, for further information write to:

	c/o Mr. Amin Mohdjer Editor-in-Chief
	BRAIN Newsletter
	P.O. Box 14455-161
	Tehran -  IRAN.

	Fax: +21 - 263 738
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: daijavd@watson.ibm.com (S.Daijavad)
Subject: Searing Visions: Recent Iranian Cinema
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:16:44 GMT
Reply-To: daijavd@watson.ibm.com (Shahrokh Daijavad)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center


As you may have read in the New York Times a few weeks ago, there is a
festival of Iranian movies in NYC in November. Here are the details
for titles and times.

All the movies are shown at:  Walter Reade Theater, 165 West 65th St.
at Lincoln Center, Tel: (212) 875-5601


     Title/Year                    Director               Time
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Once Upon a Time, Cinema        M. Makhmalbaf     Nov. 13: 2, 6 and 10:15 p.m.
       (1992)                                     Nov. 14: 6 and 10:15 p.m.

Close-Up  (1990)                A. Kiarostami     Nov. 13: 4 and 8:15 p.m.
                                                  Nov. 14: 4 and 8:15 p.m.

Marriage of the Blessed         M. Makhmalbaf     Nov. 15: 4 and 8:15 p.m.
       (1989)                                     Nov. 16: 4 and 8:15 p.m.

Nargess (1991)                  R. Bani-Etemad    Nov. 15: 6 and 10 p.m.
                                                  Nov. 16: 2, 6 and 10 p.m.

The Last Act (1991)             V. Karim-masihi   Nov. 17: 2, 5:45 and 9:15 p.m.

The Need (1991)                 A. Davudnezhad    Nov. 17: 4 and 7:45 p.m.

Pomegranate and Cane            S. Ebrahimfar     Nov. 18: 2 p.m.
      (1989)                                      Nov. 19: 3:45 and 7:30 p.m.

In the Alleys of Love           K. Sinaie         Nov. 18: 4:15 p.m.
      (1991)                                      Nov. 19: 2, 5:45 and 9:30 p.m.

Where is the Friend's Home?     A. Kiarostami     Nov. 20: 2, 6 and 9:45 p.m.
      (1987)

Hoor on Fire (1991)             A. Hamid-Nezhad   Nov. 20: 3:45 and 7:45 p.m.

Water, Wind and Dust            A. Naderi         Nov. 21: 4 and 8 p.m.
    (1985-89)

Hamoon (1990)                   D. Mehrjui        Nov. 21: 5:45 and 9:45 p.m.

Travellers (1992)               B. Beizai         Nov. 22: 4 and 7:30 p.m.
                                                  Nov. 23: 3:45 p.m.

The Bride (1991)                B. Afkhami        Nov. 22: 5:45 and 9:15 p.m.
                                                  Nov. 23: 2 p.m.

Bashu, The Little Stranger      B. Beizai         Nov. 24: 2 and 6 p.m.
        (1986)

The Key  (1989)                 E. Forouzesh      Nov. 24: 4:15 and 8:15 p.m.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: slee@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Greetings
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 02:35:07 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque



Hello Iranian netters,

Just wanted to say sAlAm..... 
Have several friends and acquaintences from Iran and am always interested in 
new news and ideas.
                  Thanks,

              Steven D. Lee
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: shAhrokh, tabibe mahin!
Date: 7 Oct 1992 00:42:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Oct6.184911.1083@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:


seyyed, now i am *definately* convinced that your brain cells
have been secretly replaced by Foldgers Crystals.  what the hell
is this lame drivel?  its emabarrassing even for a boneless
jelly fish you.  

>He received the Ph.D. degree in adabiyyAt from Tehran U. when
>he was only 15! 

yaaaaaaaawn.  listen, we already *know* i aint no adabiyaate farsi
scholar.  ive admitted to it several times right here on the net. 
so boring...  do you bore youre dates to sleep to?  ooops, i forgot,
you only get it thru seegheh.

>Dear ostAd, I was just reading one of your previous shAhkAr-e adabiyyAt:
>
>> doosh dar halgheye maa ghesseye geesooye to bood
>>                          daam daaraam raam deem daaraam raam daaree raam
>>
>> can anyone help me with the second beyt?   if you cant, take your
>> best shot anyway... noke zabooname... (hey, there's a challenging idea!
>> lets provide first or second beyts, and have SCI shaa'ers complete them!).
>>
>> many thanks...

yeah, so what?  during the moshaa'ere days, i politely (an attribute youre
completely void of) asked for the second beyt of a poem.  whats your
point? 

obviously you havent heard the 'daam daaree raam' joke about 
amire aaraam.  why am i not surprised...

so very *lame* that im not even inclined to go dig up some old dirt
on you...

....

>
>Seyyed.
   ^^

double y?  yeah, im sure all english speaking people know what a tashdeed
is.  screws loose starting from the name...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nasser@nasser.net.com (Nasser Modiri)
Subject: Publications by Sharif U. Students in an IEEE Conference
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:50:20 GMT



It is always nice to see that papers/articles are being published in the
well-read international conferences/journals by students from Iranian
universities. For example, in the IEEE Global Telecommunications
Conference this year (GLOBECOM '92):
        Session 29A: Mobile Communication for Developing Countries:

        Application of Celleular Radio to Telecommunication Expansion
        in Developing Countries:
                        Homayoun Hashemi, Sharif University
                        Kiomars Anvari, USA
                        Mahmoud Tabiani, Sharif University

        Telecommunication Expansion of Developing Countries by
        Microcellular Technology
                        Kiomars Anvari, USA
                         Homayoun Hashemi, Sharif University

A very well done to all.

-nasser

p.s. Of course, there are at least 10 other papers which are published
by Iranians (from the names one can tell) who are in the UK and the USA.
A very well done to all of these people, too.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: what can be done toward a better IRAN ?
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:51:28 GMT

---

Once again we hear the cry of wolf!  Look at what is happening to Moslems
in Bosnia.  Their homes was taken away from them.  Their women have been
raped.  Their children is shot to death, and I can go on and on.  Look at
this United States,  All the Bahis have given easy access to the best
universities, while they have made the life extremely hard for majority
of the Iranians.  Off course, what is their purpose is to create an elite
with false credential to show the majority of the Iranian people that
people who are not Moslem are more intelligent!  As if religion makes one
smart. -:)  

Considering the way others treat us, we are saint man!  We do not shoot babies
, as it is being done to Bosnian people.  We do not perform psychological
experiment on people the way it is being done here.

Your commands might have captured the hurt of young and un-experienced
high school kids, the way we used to be before we saw the world.  Yes, it
might not seem fair, but yet again what else is fair?!  Now, we know 
better:

"trahom bar plang tiz dandan
                  Satam kari bovad bar gosfandan"

Mercy to tiger is cruelty to the sheeps.

                      With highest regards,
                           Babak   Sehari.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Einstein  and  Religion...
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:51:14 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

In article <Bv5Kuz.1n6@acsu.buffalo.edu>, sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
> In article <1992Sep25.125323.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:
>>
>>		[ Einstein's quote deleted...]
> 
> Thank you very much for posting this ,desert man ... 
> 

You're quite welcome...

> I just want to make sure that you read it and understood it before you
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> posted it.

Thank you daddy...!!!

All the years I have read, posted, etc. to this newsgroup I have seen many
come and go... And I must confess that you are a rare one, Mr. Sepehr!  You're
so involved in yourself and your mighty ego (perhaps due to your young age and
lack of knowledge of yourself and the world around you) that you have completely
lost the sense who you are indeed communicating with in this medium!

As a friendly reminder, I suggest that you be more patient with yourself and
the people you are dealing with along with not jumping to conclusions often!
Otherwise noone will be there to *listen* to your voice, thoughts, ideas, and
needs...

> Because this simply says : 
> 
> 	Einestein did not believe in BULLSHIT. 
> 

Hmmm... You're entitle to your opinion... My suggestion is to read the same
quote a few more times with attention, and then make a conclusion...

Best wishes...

Ali...
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From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: What to Talk about
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:57:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvI9w6.1vr
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:

>In article <1992Sep30.194011.2786@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>>bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>>
>>    [...]
>>
>>>'ey bAbA.'  You guys are very young.  'bebinam,' are you the product of free
>>>milk and biscuit during Shah?
>>
>>You mean milk in those pyramid containers (shir e seh goosh) and cake
>>With occasional apple or orange? No, I never saw such things!  :-)

>Mack, how do I know the kinds?  I was not from that era. :-) In my time we
>would buy a pirAshki for 15 rials for lunch, or on wealthy days a 'loobiA
>dAgh' for 25 rials.  As for 10 O'clock snack, just forget it.  During 
>'zang-e tafrih' we were throwing 'gach' at each other!

What you said reminds me of SHEER va BAAGHSAAM in Abadan!
I loved SHERKAT's milk.  I thought it was a lot better than the
regular milk in Tehran.  I think Tehraan's milk was actually powdered
milk (especially the seh goosh -pyramid- ones).  Abadan's SHEER was
actually from SHERKAT'S own farm (the farm was called dairy farm).

Now does anyone know what BAAGHSAAM is!?

Ala


>Regards,
>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>bavafa@netcom.com
>(415) 322-8056
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: What should we call our nation?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:52:25 GMT
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA

Moreover, we call Iranian carpet, Iranian history, Iranian architecture
etc... as Farsh-e-Irani, Tarikh-e-Iran, Mamari-e-Iran.  I never heard
the term Farsh-e-farsi!-:) tarikh-e-farsi ! -:) or Mamari-e-farsi !-:)
back in Iran.

I guess, like Germany which is called "Alman" in many countries and
dutchland in germany itself, or like greek which we call Unani, our
country's name might have been called different names in different
countries.  And as result products from that country is called 
correspondingly.  For example, German Car in Iran would be called
Machine-e-Almani etc...

                     With highest regards,
                          Babak   Sehari.

Babak Gerami:

You are absolutely right about the above statements.  My point is
outside Iran.  For instance, here in U.S. if you tell someone, "Do you
know anything about Iranian Poetry?" compare to saying "Do you know
anything about Persian Poetry?".  

I guess, I am convienced by uou and some other in regard to this
question that people outside Iran still refer to Latin name of Iran.  It
is like calling "Cyrus or Xerxes" rather than Kuroush or Khashayar.  

Maybe, it is because since Iran have had so much background from the
past, people outside our soil still recognize the name Persia.  Also
reading books in those regards, the name of the country was Persia
before.  I guess, it is the same way when we call Mesopetomia
(Beyn-ol_nahrain) rather than Iraq.

Also refer to some term "Persian cats" or "Persian Melon" or "Persian peach".

Ba Sepas Faravan,

Zamie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed)
Subject: Jigar-khAri trivia
Summary: to eat or not to eat..
Keywords: jigar!
Organization: naghAl khooneh
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:34:22 GMT


SalAmeh garmeh amoo bar ahAli,

If you're an Iranian you must have said or at least heard of words 
such as: "jigareto bokhoram", "moosh bokhoradet", etc.
These are usually used for showing affection to a person who could be a kid 
or an adult. Now, why eating someone's liver has become a sign of affection 
is totally beyond amoo! I mean if that was the case most of us have already 
shown our true affection towards "goosfand"s and "gAv"s(in general!) several 
times!  Also why would we wish something cute be eaten by a "moosh"? 

Maybe one of our ahAli who has a hand in "adabiyyAt" could enlighten us. In 
fact I think we will make it a trivia question for which our ghahveh khooneh 
hasn't been able to supply an answer [this type of trivia (C) Mack 1992] but 
we will definitely supply a prize!

konjkAv bAsheed,

amoo anti-"jigar-khAri"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: Iranian Women Names After Marriage
Keywords: Shah-Nama Ferdawsi
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:26:23 GMT


Part II:

Shah-nama was published for the first time in 1013 by Ferdawsi. 
Shah-Nama has epic stories from land of present Iran, Afghanestan, and
Tadjekestan.  As a matter of fact, today, people of Tadjekestan are very
fanatic toward Shah-Nama, and they have named many places according to
this book.  Shah-Nama stories contain many philosophical approaches in
real life.  The main purpose of most of the stories is the battle
between good and evil.  "Toran" is a territory that was under evil
("Ahriman") and any war was caused by the direct cause by Ahrimans.

The hero in Shah-Nama were fighting to the last minute even thought were
stopped by different obstacles and never forget to be a human.

Avesta, the book of the old Persian stated that Aryans were moved from
their original lands to warmer places in result of an ice age. (Nagahan
Arvah beh Anja Hamleh Kard va Zamin Ra Sard Kard).  Dr. Morris Rawink
from Coloumbia university by using radio istotope (Carbo 14) experiments
proved that the last ice age ended 9,000 years ago.  The end of this era
and when the weather has warmed down is the beggining of Spring.  That's
why Jamshid celebrated this incident as the New Year and name it Nourouz.

Aryans were divided into few groups and they heded ease and west and
some of them stay in the cental Asia.  The last group consisted from
many tribes such as: Irie (Iraj), Toire (Toor), Sirie (Salim) and Daheh
and Sakaha.  Rostam was from Sakaha tribe.  These groups move to the
south in some centuries later.  There were Ilams (around Persian Gulf), 
Kas-Koo (in around Khosistan and S.E. present Iraq), and Habashi (around
Omman Sea) living further down.

(To be continued)
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Mahin the joojeh kAfer
Date: 3 Oct 1992 01:34:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel
Keywords: God


wheeeeeuh!  the release is finally out the door and i get good waste
some cycles with some of my old buddies...

its good to see things havent changed a whole hell of a lot since i got
burried with work.  seyyed is still doing his routine of lurking on the
side lines until somebody questions something about islam and he jumps
in to perform his godly duty.

mahin, good for you for having the guts the standup and expose this guy's
double standards and hypocritic interpretations of islamic teachings.  

>
>Our religion *is* the rightest 

pardon my elementary faarsi, but whats that saying that goes something like:

atr aan ast ke bebooyad, naa'n ke attaar begooyad.

> and our prophet *is* the last messenger of God,

you forgot the 'according to quran' part.  first prove that quran wasnt 
written by muhammad et al (as opposed to by the almighty), then we'll talk.
a self-proclaimed sentinel isnt interesting at all.  no argument that
he was probably a very noble man.

>but we have no problem with non-Moslems who present their arguments politely 
>and thoughtfully. 

hah!  what a joke.  a year ago i posted a humble question regarding the 
authorship of quran which went like this: is there anything (scientific)
in quran that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was composed by
an extraterrestial (as opposed to muhammad and followers)?  

believe me if someone had convinced me, i would have become an avid moslem,
and a hell of lot better ambassador of the religion than the hateful seyed.

instead, what i ended up with was a death threat - the third level defense
of insecure, egotistic fundamentalists without a convincing reply. 
(the second level defense is the give-away 'youre too stupid to understand 
my impeccable logic').

>However we shall not tolerate Rushdie style.

how sure are you that god is approving of this treatment of one of his
beings?  quran says so?  which verse?  how many verses say you should
forgive him?  and if quran is so specific about this, then how come 
so many so called quran experts disagree on the verdict.  hell, our
own two most knowledgeable people (seyyed & zafar) disagree on this
vehemently. so much for qurans clarity and preciseness.

shahrokh, still anxiously looking for a knowledgeable, civilized moslem
          to prove (or help me prove to myself) that quran (or any other 
	  holy book) was not written by man.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: payman@nwu.edu (Payman Parastaran)
Subject: Re: Abu-Musa and "THE GULF: Britain's days of empire"
Originator: payman@retief.astro.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:09:28 GMT


In <sehari.718331733@vincent2.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
writes:

>Note:  IPS, is also known as Iraq Propaganda Service.  One quick linguistic
>analysis of following "news report", revels the person who wrote the article
>has arabic or Persian native language. Repeated mistakes includes:
>
>            - Not capitalizing the beginning of sentences.

Did you consider that perhaps the text of the article was all in
uppercase characters, and that for ease of reading, they were converted
to lowercase?   I seriously doubt that someone who knew enough English to
write such an article didn't know that he had to capitalize the first
word in every sentence!

>            - Sentences are too long for English style, more compatible
>              with arabic or Persian styles.

I didn't think so.

>            - Each paragraph contains only one sentence!  This a known
>              Arabic or Persian style.  No English style supports
>              this style.

This could be due to reformatting.  You're jumping to conclusions here.

I read the article and it sounded like hundreds of other news stories written
by a native English speaker.  Regardless of whether this article was
written by a native Persian or Arabic speaker or not, I don't think you
could make this inference solely on your "linguistic analysis".

-Payman

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