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From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Doors - overrated
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:49:28 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Nov17.100224@ece.arizona.edu> sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath) writes:
>Personally, I feel that the DOORS got so big only because they were
>American. I strongly believe that all of classic rock is British and 
>the Doors were over-rated since this great land of theirs had to be up
>to the times. 

Wow......
	Bob Dylan
	The Band
	The Jefferson Airplane
	Little Feat
	Buffalo Springfield
	....
I would hate to give up on these guys just because they were American's
trying to be 'up to the times'.

I think it's Jim Morrison who is hyped up more than he should be,
the Doors are classic - check out "L.A. Woman" (the album), it that
isn't rock-n-roll destined to be classic I'm not sure what is.

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Southern Methodist University, Dallas TX 72275
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From: dchuk@netcom.com (Denise Chuk)
Subject: Re: Best Group
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:25:20 GMT

trumbly@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (TRUMBLY,JAMES E) writes:

>I agree that all of the groups are great.  But I am sad by the fact that no one 
>has talked about "The Moody Blues"  They were innovators and great poets.

Agreed!  I have been waiting for someone to mention The Moody Blues.  I love
Led Zep and Pink Flyod, but I think the Moodies are just as good in a 
different way.  

Now, anybody out there loves Emerson, Lake and Palmer (sp)?


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MTFBWY too :-)

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From: ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (STEP OUT OF THE CAR PLEASE)
Subject: Re: Neil Young
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:47:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services

I think Led Zeppelin is the greatest rock-n-roll band ever.  However, the best
show I have ever seen was Neil Young during his 'This Notes for You' tour.  He
played at the Myriad in OKC to about 7,500, yet is was as intimate as watching
a club band.  I have been a big fan for years, but I had no idea how well he
could _jamm_ live!

Some friends and I had lousy seats way in the back.  About 2/3's the way
through the show we started yelling 'CORTEZ' at the top of our lungs.  He said,
"I don't know if I remember it."  Then he turned to the band..."Do you guys
think you can remember it?"...He proceeded to play ten minutes of the most
bone-chilling blues I've ever heard.  He's one of the greats!!!

Nadster

"Cortez, Cortez, What a killer..." -  Neil Young
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From: naomi@aclcb.purdue.edu (naomi)
Subject: WHODINI
Reply-To: naomi@aclcb.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University AIDS Center
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:16:28 GMT

  What is with Led Zepplin?  As for me I like Whodini.  They are the best!!!!!!
Thier best song is probably "Rock You Again(Again and Again)".  If yo're wondering who
-ing who they are THEY ARE THE GREATEST!!!!  (If anyone objects, let me know.)

                                           

                                                                SSSSSTTTTAAACCI

    Name: naomi
Internet: naomi@aclcb.purdue.edu
   Phone: 317-743-6596
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:43:40 -0500 
From: Brian William Carroll <bc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Do you know what your parents are listening to?
	<By30B5.Cwy@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>

It does not matter.
From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: How about Def Leppard !!
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:26:50 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <AMATHUR.92Nov19003314@thunder.EEAP.CWRU.Edu>, amathur@thunder.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Alok Mathur) writes:
> Hi all !
> 
> This is really a great newsgroup. I have heard all my favorites mentioned as
> well as LOTS of groups I hadn't even heard (of) !!
> 
> I don't think I've noticed mention of Def Leppard yet. They do classify as
> classic rock, don't they ? 
> 
> Hysteria........
> 
> 
> 

Id have a hard time dealing with def leppard on this newsgroup after
the sad shit they have recorded latley,let's get rocked is the
sorriest shit ive ever heard.In fact the whole album sounds like it
was written by a machine-the whole album sucks

Scott.
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From: jam3s@Virginia.EDU ("Jeffrey Allan Miller")
Subject: Procol-Harum
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:09:20 GMT

Procol Harum was a good band.  Whiter Shade of Pale may be the
song for the sixties.  And yes, they were highly creative
lyrically, as well as with combining rock and roll with
orchestration.

But really, could any of this have been possible if the Beatles
hadn't expanded the limits of rock and roll?  Think of A Day in
the Life or even I Am the Walrus or Strawberry Fields.  Before
the Beatles, rock was a couple of guitars, a bass, and a set of
drums.  Why, until Hey Jude, the idea of doing a long song was
unthinkable.  Conquistador, A Salty Dog, and Harum's other big
songs expanded the innovations of the Beatles, but would not
have been possible without those innovations.

And frankly, I always thought that the Zombies and Animals has
some influence on Procol Harum's style.  Correct me if I am
wrong.

In the sixties, there were three major forces in rock and
roll.  The Beatles, the Stones, and Dylan.  Other bands were
important (Byrds, Hollies, Spoonful, etc.) but these three
formed the foundation from which classic rock would grow.

By the way, it always seemed to me that without Helter Skelter,
Come Together, Revolution, and other late Beatles songs, the
classic rock of the seventies would have had no real model for
growth.

Strawberry Fields Forever,

Jeff Miller

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From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Da Rhythm Section
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:21:25 GMT

In article <Bxv77H.CG3@ecf.toronto.edu> millerl@ecf.toronto.edu (MILLER LACHLAN S) writes:


[snip!]



>Jones together were probably the best duo in keeping it all together
>(perhaps Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts tie them for first). And Bob

Actually, one of the the best rhythm sectionso come out of the
sixties (but unfortunately little noticed until too late if at all)
were the erstwhile members of Jethro Tull:  Glen Cornick (bass), and
Clive Bunker (drums).  Take a listen to the early TullThis Was, 
Benefit, Living in the Past, Stand Up (?)) and see whatcha think.
These guys really hit the groove.

Frank Sellin
===============
"well, beware the teacher
 who found fun instead of me...
 Hey man, what's the plan,
 what was that you said..."
     --the Tull
================>
>Best songs (IMO) that show this are No Quarter, Achilles Last Stand,
>Over The Hills and Far Away,In the Evening,Babe I'm Gonna Leave You,
>The Lemon Song (they should have included this on the remasters), and,
>well, more...
>BTW, what's happening with this Page/Coverdale thing - and who's playing
>bass?
>
>For me, the Stones are a close second.
>
>Lachlan Miller
>millerl@toronto.edu
>
>-- 
>Lachlan Miller
>University Of Toronto
>millerl@ecf.toronto.edu


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From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (R0Y)
Subject: Re: Rush newsletter
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:04:12 GMT

In article <92323.201644LTS103@psuvm.psu.edu> <LTS103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Would someone please tell me how to get the Rush newsletter. Thank you.

Me too.  Better yet, just post it for everyone.

-Roy  vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu

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From: danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Firstpost Challenge (great newsgroup!)
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:46:03 GMT

In article <Bxv77H.CG3@ecf.toronto.edu>, millerl@ecf.toronto.edu (MILLER LACHLAN S) writes:
|> Yes, I must agree, Zep is the finest there is...


AUGGGGH!

I'm getting so sick of Zeppelin lately. My roommate has been playing Stairway
to Heaven backward for the past 3 days! I know it better backwards that 
forwards, now!

GROAN...

|> For me, the Stones are a close second.

Always been a Who fan, myself. Stones are good, too.

|> Lachlan Miller
|> University Of Toronto
|> millerl@ecf.toronto.edu

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From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: Van Morrison
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:13:41 GMT

In article <JEFFK.92Nov19095001@dosXX.med.utah.edu> jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell) writes:
>>>   Does anyone have any suggestions as to great cd's?
>
>He has put out so many releases 
>that it is hard to list a few.
>Here's what I like.
>
>older:
>  Moondance
>
>middle:
>  Astral Weeks
>  No Guru, No Method, No Teacher

   St. Dominic's Preview (not too spiritual)
   Tupelo Honey (A bit of mush but pretty good)
>
>newer:
>  Inarticulate Speech of the Heart
>  Poetic Champions Compose
>
>
>Watch out.  The 'spritual' nature 
>of some of these is a bit thick for
>some folks.



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Southern Methodist University, Dallas TX 72275
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From: wkirkpat@javelin.sim.es.com (THE Wademeister)
Subject: the Offten over looked BOC
Reply-To: wkirkpat@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:33:53 GMT

MY fav Classic Band is the undergroud Blue Oster Cult
and I hope There are some others reading this group.
yes,yes, I know there is a BOC sub-group but all thay do
is (or most of what thay do.)Talk about hawkwind.
and that is fine,but I have never heard there music.
And fail to see the hawkwind -  BOC conection.(exept that thay worked
with some of the same writers on a project or two)
Let me know if I am Wrong,and I look foward to many a BOC Thred


OH And what about PINK FLOYD..............
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From: ebailey@aludra.usc.edu (Ryk Bailey)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: King Crimson
Date: 16 Nov 1992 22:46:15 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Anyone ever heard of King Crimson?  They were never really big, but are
probably the most psychodelic band I've ever heard.  I can completely
picture hundreds of people getting stoned and listening to "Twenty-First
Century Schizoid Man."  It's some weird stuff, man.

				Ryk
From: yavor@acpub.duke.edu (Yavor B. Parashkevov)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: King Crimson
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:37:04 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1ea4foINNlnu@aludra.usc.edu> ebailey@aludra.usc.edu (Ryk Bailey) writes:
>Anyone ever heard of King Crimson?  They were never really big, but are
>probably the most psychodelic band I've ever heard.  I can completely
>picture hundreds of people getting stoned and listening to "Twenty-First
>Century Schizoid Man."  It's some weird stuff, man.
>
>				Ryk

I have their Larks Tongues in Aspic on an LP, but this is one of their
more recent and not-as-good. Didn't David Gilmour start as a Crimson
member? BTW, Larks Tongues is also very psychedelic, but I guess i'm
just not into that stuff very much. I think The Court of the Crimson King is 
their most famous, isn't it?

Yavor

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From: mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Whole Bunchas of Bands
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:20:36 GMT
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center

In article <1992Nov18.034705.11583@ncsu.edu> fins@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jason Young) writes:

   Doors alumni appear (may have something to do with image though).  I like
   the Beatles, but some of their material is too bubble gum for me

That reminds me of the time when a Jackson, MS DJ played "The Long and
Winding Road".  It made him sick so he played "Why Don't We Do It In
The Road" immediately following.

    And one more ponderance, I wonder what every one thinks of the Classic Chicago
   "25 or 6 to 4," "Does Anybody Really Know What Time it Is?"  Even though they
   sold out later, these two are really good "Classic" songs, though less rock
   and more something else, but "Hey, Hey, My, My"


Man, some of their early stuff really rocks.  Their re-make of "I'm a Man"
is classic.  It does cause one to weep when you hear their stuff today.
(Kind of like when I bought Journey's last few albums)



As an aside, does anyone have the lyrics to Deep Purple's "Space Truckin"? 
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From: millerl@ecf.toronto.edu (MILLER LACHLAN S)
Subject: Re: Firstpost Challenge (great newsgroup!)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:35:40 GMT

Yes, I must agree, Zep is the finest there is...

Jimmy Page (IMO) pretty much founded the sound and concept behind Led
Zeppelin, and played with incredible conviction and emotion (although
judging from TSRTS video, he was a ham onstage). Bonham played with the
same fire, so was a natural complement to the Jimmy, and Bonzo and John Paul
Jones together were probably the best duo in keeping it all together
(perhaps Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts tie them for first). And Bob
had the perfect voice (whiny, moany, sexual, a great blues voice).

Best songs (IMO) that show this are No Quarter, Achilles Last Stand,
Over The Hills and Far Away,In the Evening,Babe I'm Gonna Leave You,
The Lemon Song (they should have included this on the remasters), and,
well, more...
BTW, what's happening with this Page/Coverdale thing - and who's playing
bass?

For me, the Stones are a close second.

Lachlan Miller
millerl@toronto.edu

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University Of Toronto
millerl@ecf.toronto.edu
From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Joe Walsh and The James Gang
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:50:57 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <92321.220405SS3254B@auvm.american.edu>, Doc <SS3254B@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> Howdy, y'all.  Can anyone tell me which James Gang albums Joe Walsh appears
> on.  Just wondering.  Thanks to all who can help.
>      - Doc
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 Hi,
   I know he was on the one with "funk 48" and "funk 49" on it but for
the life of me i cant remember the album name.it is a great album!


BTW are there any Little Feat fans out there besides me?
    once again i love the band but dont know as much of their stuff as
i wish i did, any good albums i should check out?


Thanks,
   Scott
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From: kjherman@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (kevin herman)
Subject: Re: best guitar solos
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:49:30 GMT

What about some guitar solos from not-so-well-known-yet-still-classic outfits?

an example:

Highway Song             (?? guitarist??) of Blackfoot
Mississippi Queen        Leslie West of Mountain, short bursts but TASTEY!
All Right Now            Paul Kossof (sp.) of free
Takin' Care of Business  (guitarist??) of B.T.O.
(Most of the cuts off Moontan by Golden Earing)

about all I can think of for now...

It's amazing what you can squeeze out of a 5-note scale!!!

Kevin



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From: canright@convex.com (Robert Canright)
Subject: Re: A call for them Blues
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:36:50 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <1992Nov20.142445.1@csusb> jimbo@csusb writes:

>I know this group is for classic rock, but anybody
>out there want to discuss the BLUES as well.
>Maybe "Loose Bruce"  out in Atlanta?  Anyone else?

>Tony Ardelean
>Cal State University, San Bernardino 

As a long time rocker I finally decided to delve into the blues
because all my favorite guitarists evidenced an appreciation for
the blues.  If the blues gave birth to rock&roll, I would not mind
a little bit of blues postings, but would not be surprised to see
a "get your own group" response.  I have not found a blues newsgroup

Big Bad Bob
From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Best Bass line ?
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:34:04 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Hi there,
   There has been so much stuff about "best guitar solo's" flying
around that i have to ask,What songs have the best bass lines(im a
bass player)

here are some of my votes:

Funk 48&49 James gang
Gimme back my bullets Skynard
any Steely dan song
Any Rush song
Most aerosmith songs


Ill post again when i think of some more

Scott.

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From: mrc65@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Little Feat
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:46:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.233637.5755@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin) writes:
>Boy am I glad someone mentioned these guys (and women back up singers, from
>time to time). Talk about a panoply of the roots of American music.

At last, another Feat fan. In the two years or so that I've perused the various
music lists hre, I've very little mention of the Feat. Often called the 'most
underrated band of the '70's.

>These guys do it all, and I highly recommend them, although Lowell George's
>death hurt the band.  Still, they're putting out some decent stuff
>on their albums these days.

Lowell's death did more than 'hurt' the band. Although he didn't do ALL the
songwriting and singing, he was indeed the driving force. The 'new' Feat
have slid into a more commercial country/cajun sound that....well..sucks.

> A great live band, too, on a par
>with , dare I say it, the Dead or the Brothers (not quite as much
>improv from the Feat, but it's there...).
No argument here. From the Waiting for Columbus album to several boots of
concerts in California and Germany that I have, these guys played hard.

>Which brings me to my question. Having seen them live, I figured Paul
>Barrere did all the slide stuff since he joined. Then I read an
>interview where Paul says Lowell played a great slide guitar (and
>I think he said Lowell did most of it on Dixie Chicken, the album.)
>So my question is, who's doing what slide on Waiting for Columbus?

I'm fairly sure Lowell was responsible for most. I don't have the liner notes
here at work with me (for shame!), but I'm pretty sure that Lowell and his
Sears Craftsman (tm) 7/16" socket as a slide did most, if not all slide.

Frank- if you're interested in 'alternative' recordings of Feat, contact me
via email. I have bunches of recordings, memorabilia, etc.
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From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: Van Morrison
Keywords: Van the Man
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:08:38 GMT

In article <1eclbqINN9f1@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> tanksley@cs.utexas.edu (Lynn M. Tanksley) writes:
>Any one have any opinions on the classic rock-ness of Van Morrison?

Absolutely classic!! 


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Southern Methodist University, Dallas TX 72275
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