HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Yosemite
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 18:14:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.020134.20000@lth.se> e92mlu@efd.lth.se
(Marcus Lundahl) writes:
>Can anyone tell me about the possibilities of living there during
>the summer (august).

Campground stays are limited to 14 days.
It's a Park, and residence (excepting employees) is limited.

>Is it very expensive and fullbooked for months?

Cheap, but can be booked months in advance.
The non-developed camps away from roads are free.  Other campground fees vary.
A private firm called Mystiks handles reservations (except for the backcountry
sites).

>And what is the best transportation from LA and

Numerous: rental car would be most convenient, buses are a completely
workable option.

>how long will it take?

5.5 hours should be taken as a rough minimum.

>Which month of the year is Yosemite most beautiful?

Personal preference.  Now.  Fewest people.

You should contact the Park for details as things change.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  Ex-Yosemite Resident
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
From: TRADER@cup.portal.com (Paul Vincent McGinnis)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Chicken Boy Los Angles
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 19:55:19 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Are you talking about the guys in the chicken suit who stand in front of
the Mexican chicken places like El Pollo Loco???

Paul McGinnis / TRADER@cup.portal.com
From: clp@mezon.Corp.Sun.COM (Chuck L. Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: aqua Santa Barbara
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:20:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: mezon.corp.sun.com

In article <19921229120807CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSETS) writes:
>I think the best description of pollitics was given by a comedian,
>if you break words up you can get their reall meanings -
>Pollitics - polli (polly) = many, tics (ticks) = small blood sucking
>    insects.....

My favorite is:
	The opposite of progress is congress.

clp
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: geoffg@sco.COM (Geoff Galitz)
Subject: Re: Cost of Living
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:10:24 GMT


In article <1993Jan9.020418.6788@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> msmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael A Smith) writes:
>I have never been to CA, but would like to go.  All I hear about
>in Ohio is how expensive it is.  How true is this?  Below I have listed
>some prices I currently pay in Columbus.  If someone from the Bay Area,
>LA, Sacramento, and San Diego could post some comparisions I would be
>thankful.
>
> Rent(1 br + kitchen) $300
> Gas   $1.05/gallon (1/8/92)
> milk  $1.59/gallon
> compact disc $12.99
> entry fee for 10K race $12
> 1/lb of freshly-rosted import coffee $6 - $10
> 12" pizza with 2-toppings $7
>
>( any other measures of price comparision would be helpful)
>thanks, MAS

I'm from Santa Cruz (90 miles South of San Fransisco), but maybe this
will still give you an idea of what California is like:

	Rent (1br + kitchen)	$600 (approx)
	Gas			$1.35/gallon
	Milk			$same
	Compact Disc		$same
	entry for 10K race	$don't have a clue
	coffee 			$same
	pizza			$varies... but very close

One thing you do have to take into account is that wages are higher in
California.      


  

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Newsgroups: alt.california
From: you@where.ever.you.are
Subject: Ignore -- this is a test
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:42:58 EST
Organization: TheNews 
Keywords: Test
Summary: A test

 Just testing the net.
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: e92mlu@efd.lth.se (Marcus Lundahl)
Subject: Yosemite
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:01:34 GMT

I live in Sweden and I plan a trip to California.
I'm interested in the National park Yosemite. Can anyone
tell me about the possibilities of living there during
the summer (august). Is it very expensive and fullbooked
for months? And what is the best transportation from LA and
how long will it take? Which month of the year is Yosemite
most beautiful? Lot's of question, maybe you can answer
some of them. / Marcus
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.california
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:30:37 -0500 
From: Christopher M Stanley <cs67+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Drought Reports


I was woundering????  Would the person that has preveously posted the
"drought watch" reports from, I believe, a S.F. paper post them again? 
They were really informative for us out here in the East.  Especially
when local news views the West as anything west of Ohio.  

I would be interested in hearing the lasted stats for the rain and snow
fall you guys have been experiencing.  Last I heard the snowpack was
150% of normal. With all the storms that have hit the Sierra Nevada in
the last two weeks or so the Skiing should be the best in the country
about now and the snow pack should be ever increasing.  

looking forward to those numbers.

chris

 
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Chicken Boy Los Angles
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:12:57 GMT

In article <1ht19aINNbh4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, fencil@bengals.msu.edu (Kollin S. Fencil) writes:
> Keywords:
>  Is there anybody out there who knows who Chicken Boy is???  
> If so get in touch with me, he is starting to catch on here in Michigan,
> is there some following out there on the coast or am I just a freak?

  Try Santa Monica Blvd. There are probably plenty of Chicken Boys there.
-- 

		Michael Thomas	(mike@gordian.com)
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: martin@gamma (Martin Wilde)
Subject: Re: Real Ale in America?
Organization: Intel Corporation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:13:33 GMT

neil@palnu.demon.co.uk (Neil Motteram) writes:
: Hi
: 
: Ignore the Dutch address etc. I am an Englishman and a Real Ale drinker. On a
: recent visit to California we tasted a few Californian brews in San Fransisco
: and Fresno. The taste was something like Belgain bottles beer, very hoppy, not
: very smooth but tasty. But they were all served too cold to really appreciate
: the taste and all had far too much gas. (Naturally carbonated or whatever.)
: 
: Im returning to the US in the spring for an extended tour, probably visiting
: St. Louis and San Fransisco. Is anyone out there brewing 'proper beer'? (Or
: if you like warm, flat beer) in the English style?
: 
: Flame Bait if ever there was one, Im sorry
: 
: Neil
: 

Yes there is a santa claus...  In the Portland (probably Seattle too) area 
there are several pubs serving hand drawn ales using real beer engines.  
BridgePort in particular serves some of their ales in the true Ale format 
(Michael Jackson was very fond of it).  I don't think the Californians have 
gotten into the English style with the beer engines yet.

--
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Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
From: trice@brtph330 (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: Re: 1993 edition of Jackson's _Pocket Guide_?
Organization: Bell Northern Research, RTP, NC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:39:57 GMT

David Kohr (drk@cs.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Which book do you mean by "Beer Bible"?  "The New World Guide to Beer"?

The one and only! 
The New World Guide to Beer - Michael Jackson (c) 1988 reprinted 1991
ISBN 0-89471-649-2



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From: Gary.Cox@f20.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Gary Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: making moonshine
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 15:12:11 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/20 - Mercury Opus NEC360, St Petersburg FL

SB>Does anyone out there know how to make a still for brewing some good old
SB>fashioned moonshine  ;-) ??

SB>If so please enlighten a really interested (and very sober!!) student (yours
SB>truly)

The directions for making a still can be found in "Foxfire #1". I think
the last chapter. Or look in the yellow pages under Wine and beer making
supplies. Most stores carry a book called "The Lore of Still Building"
by Howard and Gibat or order the book from Stuff for Suds 1176 Sudden
Valley, Bellingham Wa. 98226, for $4.95. There is no problem owning the
directions to make a still or a nuclear bomb, there is a problem
building either. the federal gommint frowns on building a still almost
as much as a nuclear bomb.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Reached beer d/l limit. Must u/l now

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: s0468266@let.rug.nl (N. Van Waas)
Subject: Re: Weiss bier
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:40:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.102347.6124@cs.tu-berlin.de> gosper@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Gremzow) writes:
>From: gosper@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Gremzow)
>Subject: Re: Weiss bier
>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:23:47 GMT
>You believe Weizen with lemon juice to be exotic ? Picture this:
>Crystal Weizen combinded with soda (7Up, MountainDew, Root Beer...).
>If that doesn't make you puke nothing else will !
>
>CU gosper@cs.tu-berlin.de
>
To put a lemon slice or lemon juice in Weizen/weiss beer is a stupid 
invention of god knows who to mask the garbage smell it normally has (at 
least the belgian white beers smell like a sewer but they taste terrific!
Try for example Hoegaarden or Dentergems.
						Mark

Women ruin much more than booze can make forget...
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: andy rogers <rogers@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Speaking of Sheaf (was RE: Canned Guinness)
X-Xxdate: Wed, 6 Jan 93 18:15:32 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:14:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.055710.3550@adobe.com> Curtis Jackson, cjackson@adobe.com
>writes:
>Certainly most of your finer stouts of repute, and even fine stouts
>of disrepute (merely because of their Aussie origin) recommend around
>a 50-55 degree serving temperature. A prime example is Sheaf Stout
>(formerly Tooth Sheaf Stout) from Australia -- as fine a stout as one
>could wish and one I would definitely put up against Guiness in a bottle
>vs. bottle comparison. Now, it would be difficult to beat the lower

is not the Sheaf stout bottle conditioned? (even in the U.S.)

the last couple i had seemed to contain something at the bottom which i
assumed to be yeast sediments. this would explain why it's so good (especially
compared to bottle guinness).

andy
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From: lew@grant.ncd.com (Lewis Curl)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer named T and T?
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:09:06 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mt. View, CA, USA

My friend was visiting the Phillipines during Christmas, and he brought me back a Malt Liquor called 'Red Horse'.  It is *VERY* strong, and quite tasty (as far as a malt liquor is concerned).  The nice thing about it is that it comes in 22oz. bottles, and is 18% alcohol.  The words "EXTRA STRONG" are on the label as weel.  Is it available in the States, or has anyone tried it?  Two bottles and I was pretty messed up.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: drk@cs.uiuc.edu (David Kohr)
Subject: Re: Beer Across America
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Comp Sci, Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:25:11 GMT

In article <C0C52p.8AI@m2.dseg.ti.com> jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com (John
R. Mellby) writes:
>At the suggestion of a friend I called Beer across America to
>subscribe to their service.
>
>John R. Mellby                       Texas Instruments
>jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com         

Is this service any good?
-- 
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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:08:27 EST
From: <BTRUB@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: making moonshine

Why would you want to make moonshine?  An ATF guy I know has seen the inside of
stills (ie: the ingredients) quite often they include dead birds, squirrels and
other forest creatures floating in their own shit.  For some reason the
critters just seem to be attracted to that sour mash smell.
From: hersh@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Jay Hersh)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: German Drinking Rhyme
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:59:20 GMT
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

bickham@msc.cornell.edu (Scott Bickham) writes:


>I lost the orignal posting, but I think it was Joel that asked about this:

>	Wein nach bier, das rat ich dir
>	Bier nach wein, das lass ich sein.

>Translation:

>	Wine after beer - that's what I recommend
>	Beer after wine -  I leave that alone

>I hope that works for you ;-)

>				Scott




I've heard a similar English language rhyme


	Wine and Beer, never fear
	Wine and Liquor, never sicker


	JaH
--
Hopfen und Malz, Gott erhalts
From: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM (Michelle Donat SE Chicago Loop )
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Real Ale in America?
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:52:04 GMT
Reply-To: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: theloop.central.sun.com

Please indulge a Yank....
Whatinthehell is a "beer engine"?
I thought that's what was in my van! :)
---

john E. Donat
john_donat@cs-lp1.prime.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: Hangover remedies wanted
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:49:42 GMT

In article <lkp569INNs8d@news.bbn.com> djstracher@ccs1.bbn.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.190909.25085@cis.ohio-state.edu>, imes@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes) writes:
>>Ok, the title says it all.  Once again, I'm a bit hungover and I still haven't
>>found a great way to cure it.
>>
>>I'll accept all suggestions except for the one about drinking a beer in the
>>morning because I've tried and it doesn't seem to work.
>>
>
>The best cure I have found is physical activity. Most of the time I can't bring
>myself to exercise though and usually resort to a 32 oz bottle of Gatorade.
>This helps restore the bodies nutrient levels to the proper place.

  Physical excericise is highly discouraged, since your body's nutrient 
  levels are not balanced when hung over and the overall body metabolism
  is not quite in order.  Some kind of a sports drink might be in
  order, though.

  On the very rare occasion when I have a hangover, I've always found
  that a long shower help a lot.

	- Mika
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: making moonshine
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:18:39 GMT

hate to tell ya but stills are illegal in all states plus highly dangerous. 
known to go BOOM.
good luck on your search.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
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 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: burzlaff@ligiahp.univ-lyon1.fr (Maxime BURZLAFF        )
Subject: Norway/Oslo
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:33:42 GMT
X-Posted-From: ligiahp.univ-lyon1.fr
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I'll B in Olso for a couple
of months, so if there R some
Norwegians beer drinkers around there,
let me know : burzlaff@lisisun.univ-lyon1.fr

C U,
Max mad.
From: slt22@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Pissed
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:50:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

     Through the course of my break I became very pissed off!  Some people can't
appreciate a good time.  I'm originally from Montana.  I lived there for the
first 15 years of my life.  I went back over vacation and bar hopped with a few
of my old friends from way back when.  Now, Butte Montana has always been a rough
town.  I should know.  But there I was, mindind my own business, downing a bud when
this dude starts to stare at me.  He was obviously drunk off his ass and had a pissed
look.  He starts in on how I was starting something with him.  After a few
minutes, I couldn't convince him that I wasn't doing anything and we got in a scuff.
I didn't fight at my fullest because the fucker had a hold of my hair.  I have long
hair.  Hurt like hell too.  But anyway, here I am back in Utah and I'm quite pissed
off now that I think of it.  You would think that people would mature through the 
years.  I used to be offended by people calling my hometown 'Butt' but this trip
showed me grim reality.  Why can't people handle their alcohol?  I think that
beer should be drank in good feeling and to truely enjoy it.  At least, that's
what I do.  Does anyone out there know what I'm talking about?
     Anyway, keep swilin'!  Beer rules!
                                      Later,
                                      Jerrel
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
From: jp@ssc.gov (John Palkovic)
Subject: Re: Black and Tan
Organization: Medium Energy Booster Group, SSCL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:09:47 GMT

In article <1ieg25INNjia@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
ck983@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert J. Cardinali) writes:

Bob> We used to charge our Guiness kegs at the Blue Moon Tavern in
Bob> Portland Oregon with a mixture of nitrogen and carbon
Bob> dioxide...Too much of the latter, and the foaming at the head
Bob> would be out of control.

According to an excellent article which appeared in the St.
Petersburg Times (tribune?) last week, the proper mixture is 75% N,
25% CO2.  The article claimed that Guiness even has staff in the US
to train pub owners in the proper method of Guiness dispensing. (I
may transcribe this article later.) It is mostly about a pub in St.
Petersburg, Florida, where the pub owner takes his Guiness very
seriously... However, the article does mention the "beer
renaissance" in America and homebrewing.

Adios,

-John

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From: rwillard@drew.drew.edu (Just call me Al)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Thirst
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:21:02 GMT
Organization: Drew University

In article <1993Jan8.021220.100104@drew.drew.edu>, klangdon@drew.drew.edu (I just take Pictures.) writes:
> 
> Jeez I could really use a beer right now.

The pub opens at 5pm and I think there's a holiday party (belated) at 
the Evans' house tonight.  Think you can wait that long?

bec "Gimme a light.  Bud light." w.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Ernst_Guy)
Subject: Guiness Gasses
Reply-To: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:36:06 GMT


cmacken@unix2.tdc.le writes:

>To be totally accurate the gas used to drive Guiness
>through the beer lines is 70 % Nitrogen and 30 % Carbon
>Dioxide.  It says so on the label on top of a full gas
>cylinder........

Funny, that mixture sounds familiar.  Is it air with the 
oxygen removed and replaced with co2 ?

Or is this idea totally preposterous and it would be easier
to just mix the co2 and n2 ?



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From: STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Kosher beer?
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:17:00 GMT
Organization: Temple University

The note about  Coors being the only  Kosher brand of beer  interests me.  I
have  a  friend  who insists  that  I  not  drink  Coors because  its  owner
financially supports anti-Jewish groups.  I  am willing to follow his advice
provided I  find proof of  his claim.  I hate  to falsely indict  people.  I
presently boycot  Domino's Pizza  because of  the anti-abortion  groups that
company supports.  Yes, I did hear the owner of Domino's say this some years
ago.  I  never heard anything  about this  claim that Coors  is antisemetic,
except from my friend.  Has anyone else heard this claim.  If you have proof
of it, please let me know.
 
Oh, by the way, I am Jewish, but  not Kosher.  I have a colleague who has an
office a  few doors away  from mine.  She  is extremely orthodox  Jewish and
follows the Kosher laws very closely.  Her  husband is one of the Rabbis who
certifies meat as being  Kosher.  She has told me several  times that if she
is not  sure about  the Kosherness  of something, she  will not  consume it.
Further, if a product certified as  Kosher is not stored according to Kosher
laws, she wouldn't  consume it either.  This person really  knows her Kosher
laws.  Her husband's a Rabbi and one of  her sons is studying to be a Rabbi.
They always  observe the Sabbath each  week and do all  that other "strange"
stuff  such as  not  using electricity  during the  Sabbath.   If anyone  is
interested, I will ask her if she knows of any Kosher brands of beer.
 
Stan Horwitz
stan@vm.temple.edu