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From: rdesai@ee.uwm.edu (Rajiv Desai)
Subject: Mike
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:29:18 GMT

What are all these fuss about Jordan, Bird and Magic? Sure they are all-time
greats. But when it comes to the game there is nobody better than Mike. How
many times the game is on line and ball in his hand and the whole world knows
what he is to do and opposition also know and still watch him destroy them.
This purely amazing.
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From: rpierce@oracle.com (Russell Pierce)
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Summary: Another moot point
Keywords: three great players, ridiculous comparisons
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA  94065
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:12:04 GMT
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		LOTS AND LOTS OF BABBLE DELETED 


	Blah blah blah!!!  What some people will do to find someone to argue
	with.  The comparisons are inevitable but bore the crap out of me.
	I don't think that it's possible to say that any one of these three 
	is 'better' than the other 2.  They are all phenomenal in their own
	right but comparing them is like saying apples are better than oranges
	which are better than bananas.  They all play for different teams,
	different positions and with different teammates.  Why do we have
	to say that one is better than the others??  Is it that vital for your
	favorite player to be "the best"?  Everyone is entitled to their own
	opinion but it's impossible to prove another's opinion wrong. If green
	is my favorite color, you can argue/threaten/yell at me till the cows 
	come home and still not convince me to change my opinion.  Lastly,
	the comparisons are lame because I don't think(IMHO)that any of the
	three could fill the others shoes.  They play different roles and 
	even though they are all flexible intheir skills, Bird could never
	do what Jordan does, Jordan can't do what Magic did and Magic 
	would never be the forward Bird was forthe Celts.  

	Thanks for tuning in!

		Russ Pierce      

	P.S.  instead of sitting around and reading and arguing I think some
	      netheads need to get off their butts and actually play some   
	      hoop to work off their stress/tension instead off blowing smoke
	      in this newsgroup(of course, this is just my opinion). :-
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 15:25:46 CDT
From: <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD KICK DT!

In article <1992Sep1.035426.224@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
(Bryan Lip) says:
>
>HERE ARE SOME VALID REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD BEAT THE USA TEAM THAT
>COMPETED IN BARCELONA, COMMONLY KNOW AS THE DREAM TEAM (PROBABLY BECAUSE
>THEY'RE ALL HALF ASLEEP?)
>
>1. AUSTRALIA BEAT PUERTO RICO BY 40 POINTS, THE USA COULD ONLY MANAGE A
>MEAGRE 38 POINTS..... AND AUSTRALIA DIDN'T PLAY ITS STAR PLAYERS MUCH IN
>THE SECOND HALF...

 That seems like good logic to me.
>
>2. THE NBA DOES NOT ALLOW A ZONE DEFENCE.... ONLY MAN TO MAN... HENCE WE
>COULD EXPLOIT THIS INABLILITY ON THE PART OF THE USA..... AND AUSTRALIA
>HAS BEEN PROVEN AS A VERY EFFICENT DEFENCIVE TEAM...

   I'll tell you what. It doesn't take too much skill to play zone defense.
 I'll bet even five idiots such as yourself could probably play decent zone.
 All zone defense is is five guys playing around the lane so no one can post
 up or drive in. If you like jump shots then this is an excellent defense.
 The NBA doesn't allow zone not because it is hard to play but because it
 makes an exciting game boring. The reason many college stars don't make it in
 the NBA is because playing a zone defense in college helped hide the fact that
 they can't play man on man. By the way I really think Australia would have won
 but now we will never know. Too bad.
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From: stu1d46@bnr.ca (Reg Domaratzki)
Subject: Re: Bird, Jordan, Magic...
Reply-To: stu1d46@bnr.ca (Reg Domaratzki)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:00:46 GMT

In article <4854@news.duke.edu>, radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:

|> Hmmm.  So is this why Jordan (micheal jordon is gad!) draws so much flack?
|> He doesn't seem to have a natural opponent to duel against, to inspire 
|> greatness in him.  And he to challenge the opponent.  This may be why some
|> tend to focus on Michael-as-super-athlete rather than Michael-the-overall-
|> player.  Perhaps a reborn Charles Barkley from the west could serve?
|> 
|> --Rob Clough

NO.

The Bird/Magic rivarly was awesome because the two players were so evenly
matched with thier respected teams.  They were also UNDOUBTABLY the leaders
on their team, and were UNDOUBTABLY the best two players in the league at
the time.  KJ is the leader of the Suns, and Charles is not undoubtably the
second best player in the league right now.

FLAME BAIT:
There never has and never will be another rivarly as fierce as that between
Magic and Bird in professional sports.

Reg Domaratzki  University of Waterloo Co-op Student at BNR in Ottawa, Canada
  "The problem with the future is that it keeps turning into the present"
           - Hobbes
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From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD KICK DT!
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:54:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.100706.11324@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.035426.224@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip) writes:
>>HERE ARE SOME VALID REASONS WHY AUSTRALIA COULD BEAT THE USA TEAM THAT
>>COMPETED IN BARCELONA, COMMONLY KNOW AS THE DREAM TEAM (PROBABLY BECAUSE
>>THEY'RE ALL HALF ASLEEP?)
>>
	(reasons 1-3 deleted) 
>>
>>4. TEAM? IS THE USA A TEAM? I DONT THINK SO, IT IS JUST A GROUP OF NBA
>>ALL STARS WITH GREAT INDIVIDUAL TALENT, BUT NOT MUCH TEAM TALENT, JUST
>>TELL ME HOW LONG HAS THAT TEAM BEEN PLAYING TOGETHER FOR, AND FOR HOW
>>MANY GAMES....
>>
>>AUSTRALIA ON THE OTHER HAND IS A TEAM, WHICH MANG
>
>Well, uh....   No, this is too easy.  I will keep calm, I will keep calm...
>
>Too much vegemite today, Bryan?
>-- 
>
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

Actually, Bryan, not one single person posting to
rec.sport.basketball*.* disagrees with you. Not one. All those folks
are over in rec.sport.football*.* groups. They're also talking a
bunch of trash about how Australians are wusses, and any group
of Miami Hurricanes or Buffalo Bills could whip up on any bunch
of Aussies in any sport played Down Under. But remember, that's
not us. That's rec.sport.football.college and rec.sport.football.pro. 

Ken Bowers
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Spurs Update
Keywords: Spurs
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:38:09 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <BtnG99.2AM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
> 	What's the status on former UNLV and Final -4 MVP Anderson
> 	Hunt?  He was always a Tark favorite.  Does he have any chance
> 	at making the Spurs?

I'm sure he does have a chance - better than some of the guys trying
out for the spot (e.g. Matt Othick) but then again I would expect
them to go for a true point guard if what I heard was true....



				gln


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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: thanks ed and dave
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:43:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.214726.43828@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.181326.11211@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
><...numerous other lines of junk he hopes I will get back into things with...?
>
>>Now, go ahead, I dare you not reply.
>
>There, I didn't reply... oopps...
Oh, so you didn't reply to the claim that N=4, huh? Of course you didn't,
because that's the truth. In other words, your claim that N=2 was another lie.

Glad you straighten this out.




-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: smerinofw01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Request: Trade Info
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:22:07 GMT

Could someone please post the details of the major trades that have occurred 
since the end of the last season.  Thank You.
John.
From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Shaquille O'Neal interview
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:07:42 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Sep2.234139.15912@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, rda455w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (H. Nguyen) writes:
>With all that offensive talent on the  DT, versatility becomes a minor issue.
>A dominant shot-blocker and rebounder would have made more of an impact, 
>allowing the other players to focus more on their show-time offense.  Not 
>that the DT lack shot-block or rebounding, but I think a guy like Shaq would
>have given the DT more intensity on the defense.   

Consider the problems that David Robinson and Patrick Ewing (and even Karl
Malone) had in the Olympics and TOA.  The international game is not suited
to their styles.  They had a lot of foul troubles.  Now consider Shaq, a
much more raw talent.  He might have fouled out playing only 5 or 6 minutes
a game!  Laettner's skills were simply better suited for the international
game.  

--Rob Clough
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From: rstewart@ganglia.megatek.uucp (Rich Stewart)
Subject: Selling the Lakers short (was Re: Who's gonna win it all )
Reply-To: megatek!rstewart@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:08:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.212833.13214@unislc.uucp> gsd@unislc.uucp (Greg Dodd) writes:
>        PACIFIC
>
>        Portland        (This is it! you only got better in the off season)
>        Seattle         (Young strong powerful & TUFF, Oh that Kemp!)
>        Phoenix         (Absolutly no first team defense, and no bench)
>        LA Clippers     (Great coach and great young team)
>        Golden State    (Too small, & everyone knows how to play ya!)
>        LA Lakers       (James as great as you are you've played too many mins)
>        Sacramento      (Your the only poor team in this divison)

Every keeps putting the Lakers in the cellar. Even without Magic, if the
Lakers are healthy,  they have Perkins, Worthy, Vladi, Peeler this year,
none of which played any significant number of games last year. And if
Threat has another good year, I  think they will  end up 1 or 2 in the west.
Now I do agree, without alot of youth added to the team they are in deep
trouble, soon.
-Rich
From: gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: REASON WHY AUST COULDN'T KICK DT
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:15:01 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <1992Sep3.151737.12856@phillip.edu.au> t9014192@phillip.edu.au writes:
>   As an Australian, 2 things about the NBA amaze me:
>
>                 1. Why Andrew Gaze is not playing, &
>
>                 2. Why Luc Longley is.
>
>       Luc Longley is a 7-foot dud. He was pathetic in the Olympics, 

Why?  Guys Andrew Gaze's size are almost a dime a dozen.  There are
probably more 3s footer than there are 7'.  You can always find a
better players in the CBA to replace most 10th-12th men.  But when
it's 7's your chances of finding a better one in pro ball anywhere
is much lower.  The coaches desparately hope that their games
will grow into their height.

It wears off after a few years.

All these guys with "skills" gradually get weeded out.
__
REASON NOT TO VOTE FOR BUSH

Dan "When in doubt add an e" Quayle
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From: gregt@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Greg Tollefson)
Subject: Re: Who's gonna win it all? (was Re: Predictions)
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:42:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.184254.6582@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>In article <l9njehINN3v9@dimebox.cs.utexas.edu> wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug26.172948.25925@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>>|>|
>>|>
>>|>Not!  Name one good beer produced in Milwaukee.
>>|>
>>|    How 'bout Miller? Or the much underrated Pabst? 
>>|
>>I'm still waiting...
>>
>     Oh, I suppose down south you'd rather drink Billy Beer, huh ;)
>     I guess as long as it's not Bud or Busch it's okay.
>

      A unopened six of Billy Beer goes for about $400 now.

>>
>>
>
>

Greg T.



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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: thanks ed and dave
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:31:18 GMT

In article <21027@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>> Now, go ahead, I dare you not reply.
>
> Oh yeah? Well I double dare ya.......
Be my guest. Unlike Meek, I won't claim that I am going to stop/drop the 
argument, etc.

It's stupid to make such a claim when you have no intention to stop, i.e.
when you can't resist to reply.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Blazers sign Dave Johnson
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:30:22 GMT

edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury) writes:
> I think Ennis has an "open" invitation to fall camp, but I don't know
>if he will even bother to come. He can attend any camp he wants to and
>given his chances of making the team are very remote, he may be choose
>to entertain going to Europe, the CBA or attending someone's camp which
>has a need for a guard.

	When you open up the dictionary and look up journeyman, you'll
	get a glaring picture of Ennis Whatley.  How many teams has this
	guy played for?  6 or 7?  Is he trying to set a new record or
	something?  All this from a player that when he was drafted by
	the Bulls out of Alabama -- he was the "next Tiny Archibald".
	Funny how things work out...

	Jazzy J
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From: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Danny Ferry - Did he err?
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:32:43 GMT
Reply-To: radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Aug25.140442.21183@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney) writes:

>>Ferry is a pretty clever player, and he usually has taken a couple of years
>>to really adjust at every level he's been at.  His all-around skills were
>>enough to allow him to dominate at the college level, but in the pros he's
>			^^^^^^^^ pretty strong word there.  I always
>	figured he'd be a flop and thought coach K's system had a lot to do
>	with his success.

Strong word, but I say accurate.  He was a two-time ACC POY, and got a few
national POY awards his senior year. (if Elliott hadn't made that damn shot,
Ferry would have gotten a couple of more).  He holds the single game ACC
scoring record (58 pts).  He is one of the few players to have over 2000 pts,
1000 rebounds and 500 assists.  The fact that Coach K realized that Ferry could
never in his life play center contributed to his success, but he wasn't just
a system player.

>	He was often pretty bad whenever I saw him playing.
>	Maybe you saw more games.

Probably not, but I followed his boxscore results pretty closely.  I noticed
that he often didn't appear in close games, but in some games I noticed him
getting 10 pts and 8 rebounds.

>He would have gotten more pt playing with the clips.  He was billed as
>"the next Larry Bird" (I wonder why), at least around these parts anyway.
>I can't imagine the clips not wanting to showcase "the next Bird"
>considering how badly they needed to draw fans, and get away from the
>being known as the other LA.

The Clips would have needed to trade one of Manning, Smith or Norman to get
any playing time for Ferry.  That fact that they didn't, and that they got
Ron Harper out of the deal, shows that maybe the Clips aren't as pathetic
as it seems.  Although if Ferry hadn't balked, they'd be stuck.  They 
probably would have tried to play him, but it would have ruined the team.

--Rob Clough
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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 04:58:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.232647.23645@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> rda455w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (H. Nguyen) writes:
>If scoring was the issue then WiltChamberlins name would be metioned in
>the comparision, but he does not contend  with likes of Magic, Jordan
>and Bird as the motherfucker couldn't do too much else but score.

These Australian blokes crack me up.

- Trent Lange

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From: ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler)
Subject: Tark update (was Re: Lloyd Daniels)
Keywords: Spurs
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:39:42 GMT

Speaking of Tark - I saw the movie "Honeymoon in Vegas" over the
weekend, and lo and behold - there was the man himself sitting in on a
poker game sucking on a towel.  Great cameo role!

-- 
        Ellie Cutler

        ellie@ora.com               
        uunet!ora!ellie
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From: winzker@scoop.ims.uni-hannover.dbp.de (Marco Winzker)
Subject: Where to get Tickets for New York?
Keywords: Tickets New York
Reply-To: winzker@scoop.ims.uni-hannover.dbp.de
Organization: LFI, Uni Hannover, Germany
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:00:08 GMT

I'm a great Basketball-fan and for a weekend in New York. I would
like to see an NBA match, but don't know how to get infos or even
tickets here in Germany.

Could anyone help me and answer my following questions:

Is there an NBA-match on the weekend 5,6,7 September 92 in New York?
If not, is there an interesting college-game?

Where do I get tickets? 
(Telephone number for credit-card-booking available? )

Where is the Stadium? How do I get there? (Taxi, Subway?)

When do if have to be at the Stadium?

In case the match is booked out, is there a chance of getting tickets on the
'black market' in front of the Stadium? What is a _reasonable_, _fair_ price?  :-)


A million thanks in advance.

If you help me I will support your team :-)

Marco
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Hasn't Laettner signed with Minnesota yet?
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:48:31 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

The title says it all.  And for how much?


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From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:14:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: 3cpu.4232
Reply-To: edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Organization: Garden Lane Software

In article <1992Aug31.022836.3929@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> rda455w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (H. Nguyen) writes:
>
>I'm pretty sure he won both the Dunk comp and Allstart MVP in the one weekend
>in the 87-88 season (will have to confirm the year). That was when he did the 
>dunk from the free throw line and score 40+ in the allstar game. I will
>concede that he has not come that close to wining the 3-pt shoot out, but he
>had to be in the top few 3-pt shooters to qualify. My statement was that he
>would be the only person capable of winning all three events. So far he has 
>two under his belt, and the way he shot against Portland in the first play-off
>game he would be a chance to accomplish the trifector before the end of his
>career. I'm not a huge fan of Jordan, but I still think he is the best and 
>most exciting player to play NBA basketball.

 I think he would have to practice the event. Making 5 three pointers in
20 minutes is not like shooting a rack of five at about 1 per second. Jump
shooters are not good at the contest as a rule. You have an advantage if
your more of a set shooter. But, yeah if he set specifically to win the
contest I'm sure he could. Bird is out of the picture and Hodges won't
likely be in the league (?) next year so a couple of the real specialists
at winning it are out of the way.

 Personally, if they got rid of the three point contest and the dunk
contest I would care not one bit. Especially the dunk contest. I don't
see the connection between the dunk contest and basketball at all. Why
not just have them go out there and figure skate or do gymnastics -
you know those sports are "judged" as well. Give a guy 9.9 for putting
in the basket, looks more like 2 to me ;-). Just my personal opinon,
people must love those events, they keep having them after all. I usually
catch the 3 Point contest, but I got bored watching the dunk-a-thon when
they started wearing blindfolds. What's next, handcuffs and full frontal
nudity?



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From: wgr@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: Which Team is More Popular:NBA or NHL?!
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:06:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.175607.4216@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>I'm glad you enjoy basketball so much, I do, too.  Afterall, I wouldn't
>have read your article if I didn't.  But I enjoy hockey just as much, if
>not more, so I can't allow your comments to slide by.  According to some
                                             ^^^^^^^^
Was that some kind of hockey pun?

>report I remember reading, hockey was the favorite sport amongst college
>educated people.  So I guess it's not all that idiotic a game after all.

Where'd you read that report -- Hockey Digest?  Or did you see it right next
to a story about space aliens telling Elvis about a new diet?

I bet all the folks who were surveyed for that report were dentists.  They
are certainly college educated, and they know a good revenue producer when
they see one.

Also, your conclusion is interesting.  If college educated people like
hockey, then something must be *right* with hockey, rather than something
being *wrong* with college educated people?  I don't buy that.  This country
is being run mostly by college-educated people, you know.  And I remember
seeing people do a lot of really stupid things in college.  Of course I never
actually saw anyone stoop so low as to watch a hockey game.

Besides, there's something perverse about a sport that has two half-times.

>> Notice that I was too chicken shit to post this to rec.sport.hockey.

>No fear, I did you a favor and cross-posted it to the hockey newsgroup
>with your e-mail address included:-)!

Oops.  Isn't that a violation of my Constitutional rights or something?