From: svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu (Svilen Tzonev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: ANSWER TO ANDRONIKOS
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:37:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvrFIK.2Bp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

<PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>   Andronikos Romanos writes
> Svilen Tzonev (svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu)  wrote in  Sun, 27 Sep
> 1992 23:02:09 GMT:
> 
> > Milan Pavlovic writes:
> >
> >>  In article <1992Sep24.165423.5261@sunbim.be> sk@sunbim.be ()
> >>  writes:
> >>
> >>>  MACEDONIAN INFORMATION AND LIAISON SERVICE ESTABLISHED!
> >>> -wide distribution of Macedonian "news" in a number of fields
> >>>  through an international media network, including electronic
> >>>  media.
> >>> -liaison with the  lobbying  of important government represe-
> >>>  ntatives, diplomats, organisations and individuals, in rela-
> >>>  tion to vital Macedonian issues and interests.
> >>> -providing a resource of information materials  for distribu-
> >>>  tion to interested parties.
> >>
> >> This is an  open letter  to  all of my Greek Orthodox brothers
> >> and sisters around the world.
> >> As you can see by the above text,  the Skopjans have created a
> >> professional propaganda group  which will  disseminate Skopjan
> >> propaganda all over the world.  Greeks!  Don't let this go un-
> >> challenged!
> >> Just look at what happened with us Serbs.  We didn't get orga-
> >> nized in time. We had no PR. The Croats,on the other hand,have
> >> invested well over $17 million in their propaganda.  They sent
> >> a group of 200 young Canadian and US born Croatian media aides
> >> to Zagreb in the spring of 1991. This group was armed with fax
> >> machines and photocopiers,and they alone influenced the repor-
> >> ting of the Western media regarding the happenings in Yugosla-
> >> via.
> >> As a result, Croatia got recognized and the entire Serbian na-
> >> tion has been villified. We Serbs have only begun to get orga-
> >> nized recently on the serious PR stuff,  with  the creation of
> >> SerbNet. However, we have payed dearly for not getting organi-
> >> zed sooner. It is very hard now to change our current image of
> >> "war mongerers" in the Western media.
> >> My Greek friends!   I  don't want to see you get into the same
> >> trouble.  Don't let  the  Skopjans spread their propaganda all
> >> over the world.  You too must set up information centers which
> >> will disseminate  the truth about the happenings regarding the
> >> Skopjan Republic.  Don't let yourselves be pushed into the de-
> >> fensive corner, like Serbia has been pushed...
> >>                                                      Regards,
> >>                                                      Milan
> >>===============================================================
> >>               M A C E D O N I A  =  H E L L A S
> >>===============================================================
> >>
> > BRAVO Mr. Pavlovic!
> > Maybe your next appeal will look like:
> > "Fellow orthodox greeks - it's high time to divide Macedonia!
>   ::::::::::::::::               ::::::::::   ::::::
> > MACEDONIA =  HELLAS + SOUTH SERBIA" ?
>   :::::::::  ::       ::
> > very curious, Svilen
> 
> Mr. Pavlovic has written some things about Skopjie and the Serbo-
> Croatian relations. If you have any objections to the accuracy of
> his remarks please point them out.  Personally, I cannot disprove
> them. You?
> (I remember a remarkably-close broadcast on the US media with the
>  Canado-Croatians some 3 mounts ago.. As far as the Scopjian pro-
>  paganda is concerned one can enumerate several things... Is this
>  where you focus your remarks or the "bravo" ?
> 
> There is another thing though that, I feel, I must remind you:
> Mr.Pavlovic has been very consistent over the  "Macedonia=Hellas"
> notion  for a long time now,  and  I have every reason to believe
> that he uses the term  referring to  MAKEDONIA  (which is clearly
> within the current Greek frontier).
> 
> You have been around for quite some time to understand that  YOUR
> proposition would be   u n a c c e p t a b l e  by the Greeks for
> a bunch of reasons out of which I will stretch two:
> --> Your sentence makes no sense in the  "Greek vocabulary" since
>     Macedonia is NOT..." Greece + (something else)."
>     So,  Mr.Pavlovic  who is a very eloquent speaker and wants to
>     pass himself across would never write something that his par-
>     ticular audience wouldn't understand...
>     Should Milan ever imagine to write what you (and other Bulga-
>     rians probably) propose,  his Greek friends  would infer that
>     the fellow netter wants to divide  Northern Greece between...
>     Greece and Serbia ! ! !   :-)
>     Your sentence "friend",ALL that MAY succeed in, is to impress
>     a couple of other non-Balkan-nationalities,who may not be ve-
>     ry familiar with the matters in the neighborhood..and get the
>     w r o n g  idea (which I'll explain in a minute).
> --> YOUR proposition  (and not Milan's)  can very well be percei-
>     ved as highly  disingenuous "friend",  for it clearly implies
>     that Greece entertains military plans of "some" intervention;
>     and considered (in an indefinite point in the past)  an inva-
>     sion scenario! (Notice the words I underlined: "High time"...
>     "divide",  Why?  Was there a plan before Svilen? )
> 
> > "Fellow orthodox greeks - it's high time to divide Macedonia!
>   ::::::::::::::::               ::::::::::   ::::::
> > MACEDONIA =  HELLAS + SOUTH SERBIA" ?
>   :::::::::  ::       ::
> 
> If there is a positive response here please give us the name of a
> single Greek politician (from the party of your choice)  who ever
> suggested something like that...
> Please,in this effort,don't be confused by other Balkan nation(s)
> who had  no problem  whatsoever in siding with a particular Axis,
> say in the last 50 yrs, provided it (they) would receive portions
> of  its  two  neighbors'  territories  and  "share"  them  in the
> c o n t e x t   ( and region )  you  just  described!
>                                                         A.Romanos