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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject:  Michigan played for a tie with ND?  Not quite. 
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:48:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.010319.464@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@shakespeare.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>In article <Bvo35B.7J2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rick Lin(call me Axl) ) writes:
>>
>>There is a slight difference between "being" tied, which would have been the
>>case if FSU  made that field goal, and playing for a tie.  So why did 
>>Lou Holtz call those running plays and why didn't he call a time out?  If
>>that's not playing for a tie, I don't know what is. 
>
>First of all, I think Holtz did call a time out.  Second of all,
>Michigan finsihed the game with 3 time outs remaining.  IF Michigan
>was playing for the win, why didn't they use any of them to try and
>get the ball back?

Personally, I don't think it's wise when tied in a game with just 
over a minute to play, to call timeouts for your opponent.  
ND had one timeout remaining.  I would put the pressure on them 
to WIN the game.  Had they tried to win, there was a possibility 
of forcing a play and turning over the ball.  It would have 
been silly for Moeller to call a timeout.  Such a move would 
only have given ND more of a chance to develop strategy.  
It amazes me that ND fans (some of them) keep blaming 
Moeller for the tie when it was Holtz that ran the clock down.  
---
Steve
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Where's the beef?
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:06:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Oct6.180255.775@oakhill.sps.mot.com> duane@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Duane Cripe) writes:
}} 
}} You're right Steve, this has nothing to do with football.  However, while we 
}} are on the subject, I pitty the fool who tries to take away my beef.......

I'm not trying to take away your beef.  I'd prefer that you and the
other millions who eat beef paid the full price, but that's not too
likely to happen any time soon.  I am hoping that as a logical
person, when you recognize the facts you'll realize that it is
selfish to eat beef.  However, this "pacifist" approach doesn't work
too well...people just ignore the facts they find inconvenient.
Perhaps Earth First! has some good ideas after all :-)

Man, I'm in a rut.  All my conversations for the past couple of days
seem to involve getting rid of government subsidies for special
interest groups (including auto drivers, truckers, beef eaters, ...).

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
      It's a wise dog that scratches its own fleas. (William Strunk, Jr.)

                  I meant what I said, and said what I meant.
           An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent. (Dr. Seuss)
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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Roger's Top 25--28 Sep
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Sep 1992 19:36 EST  

The polls dropped Miami! The polls dropped Miami!  I had always been told
"It's like the heavy weight championship--you have to lose it.  No, rape 
convictions don't count, you have to lose it on the field."  But, come to 
find out, a nancy-boy limp-wristed win counts as a loss, if there's another 
#1 team who you've never proven you're any better than and you were only #1 
because most of the voters take vacations a couple miles from your school. 

Maybe there are more West Coast voters this year.  Whatever the cause, if 
the AP keeps being this reasonable, I may lose the justification for 
creating this program in the first place.  Combined with my poor showing in 
Chris Stassen's pool, I might consider packing it in.....Nah!

Team			Weight
----			------
1 Washington (3-0)	2.6
2 Florida St (4-0)	2.3	Game of the Week:	2 Florida St
3 Miami Fl (3-0)	2.2				vs
4 Tennessee (4-0)	2.2				3 Miami Fl
5 UCLA (3-0)		2.1
6 Michigan (2-0-1)	2.1	Alternate GotW:		1 Washington
7 Ohio St (3-0)		2.0				vs
8 Notre Dame (3-0-1)	2.0				14 USC
9 Texas A&M (4-0)	2.0
10 Alabama (4-0)	1.9	Ugly Game of the Week:	10 Alabama
11 Colorado (4-0)	1.9				vs
12 Florida (1-1)	1.9				106 South Carolina
13 Virginia (4-0)	1.9			2 in a row for the Tide!
14 USC (1-0-1)		1.8
15 Nebraska (3-1)	1.8	Media Bias Winner otW:	17 Penn St 
16 California (2-1)	1.8				(AP 8, CNN 6)
17 Penn State (4-0)	1.8
18 Syracuse (2-1)	1.7	Media Bias Loser otW:	16 California
19 Boston Coll (4-0)	1.7				(AP 27, 40 votes,
20 Wash State (2-0)	1.6				CNN 28, 54 points)
21 Stanford (3-1)	1.6
22 Kansas (3-1)		1.6
23 Georgia (3-1)	1.6
24 Oklahoma (2-1)	1.6
25 Miss St (2-1)	1.5

Penn State may be as good as the voters think but they haven't yet shown it 
on the field.  When the schedule begins with 78 Cincinnati, 92 Temple, 105 
Eastern Michigan, and 96 Maryland, they're doing good to be in the Top 20 at
this point.  They're real season begins this week: 31 Rutgers, 3 Miami Fl, 
19 Boston College, then 26 West Virginia.  Talk about tough three week 
stretches.  This one's tough for four, and the break is 61 BYU, finishing 
with 8 Notre Dame and rival 54 Pitt.  They'll have plenty of opportunity to 
climb back into the top 10, if they can get through this gamut.

The Bottom Ten:

98 Army (1-2)		0.4
99 Ohio (1-3)		0.3
100 Kent (1-3)		0.3
101 Ark. St (1-3)	0.2
102 Arkansas (1-3)	0.2
103 TCU (0-2-1)		0.2
104 Fullerton St (1-3)	0.2
105 E Michigan (0-4)	0.2
106 South Carolina (0-4)0.1
107 Pacific (0-4)	0.1

Arkansas St pulled the unexpected when they defeated Div I-AA Southern 
Illinois, and climbed out of dead last.  Similarly, Kent stunned Eastern 
Michigan (so the coach said; it didn't surprise me that much).  Climbing 
out of the bottom ten were Maryland and New Mexico, who lost, but well, and 
Colorado St, who pulled the upset over the unsuspecting, unkneauxing, 
Tigers of LSU.

R Dendy


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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Miami mascot   (was: Re: wuck fashington!!!)
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 20:17:19 GMT


Um, first of all, i believe the Ibis is the last to leave before a hurricane
and the first to come back after it has passed...not the other way around.
The reason for this is of course...the ibis is too stupid to know when it had
beter get the hell out...and it comes back first so it can loot the wreckage.

Kevin.
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 92 21:34:40 CST
From:         Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: Gupta Power Ratings 9-28-92
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.football.college

>
>(Patrick W Lauson) says:
>
>In article <15731@borg.cs.unc.edu> morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:
>>
>>A question on your ratings: when you compute a team's opponent's
>>W-L-T, do you recognize head-to-head games among the opponents?
>>(I'm assuming you discard the actual game against the team in
>>question.)
>>
>>In other words, if team A (5-0) beat teams B(4-1) and C(3-2),
>>and team B beat C, is A's opponent's W-L-T
>>
>>a) 7-3  (straight addition--bad)
>>b) 7-1  (discard games with A--better)
>>c) 6-0  (also discard game between B and C)
>>
>I would hope that he does (b).  If he did (c) then that would totally mess
>up any conferences.  The only games included in opponents W-L-T would
>be out of conference opponents.  I see your point though.....
>--

I do (b), doing (c) would screw up the conference games and if you really
think about it, if you did a theoretical (d), i.e. take (c) one step
further, you would have to eliminate all games played because your
opponent's have common opponents and so on and so on and so on.

Yeah, it kind of bummed me out to see Nebraska's opponents are 6-1, when
Arizona State is the only team with a loss and that's to another Nebraska
opponent, Washington.  It does seem hard to see Nebraska and Washington
penalize each other for beating the same team.  That's just the way it
goes within a closed group of teams.

I do not include games played by non-division I-A school except when
they play division I-A school.  If I included The Citadel, 2-0 against
division I-A, they would be ranked #31.  Their games, aside from those
two are not considered and they are not printed out in the ratings.

Bapi
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From: echen@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ed Chen)
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:27:30 GMT

In article <ASH.92Oct5090713@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>
>Washington - played poorly against USC
             ^ Offense
I thought the defense played pretty well.  The offense seemed to be more
lively when Brunnel was in there, but worst of all, they simply couldn't
get a consistent running game going.  

>Miami - exciting but sloppy game.  Good defense.  Offense shaky all year.
>FSU - Nope.  Lost a game.
>Michigan - Perhaps the best team in the country right now, but has a tie.
>Texas A&M - barely beat texas Tech.
>
>
					Ed
					(Posting from UW, but actually
					in Hurricane land.....)
From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Keywords: the chockemiester, chokarama, the chokinator...
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:12:19 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas

In article <1992Oct4.190737.25340@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>
>What the hell? Did "Saint Bobby" suddenly find out he is a distant relative
>of Lou Holtz? I mean, come on! A field goal?! With our kickers?! What gives
>with this nonsense? The clock was stopped with eight ticks to go. Anyone

I thought Bowden was supposed to be the gutsy play caller.  Why not a fake
field goal??????

    OOOO         
   O    O     =================================== |   Bill Dostalik
   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            |                
   O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |  dostalik@utdallas.edu
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      U    U  =================================== |  "Oh, yeah?"  "Yeah." 
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From: tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon)
Subject: UNI Stomps on ISU
Organization: CAD-Research, University of Iowa, Iowa City
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:50:49 GMT

	I would just like to congratulate the Northern Iowa Panthers on
defeating Iowa State.  The Panthers are a Division I-AA (Currently ranked #4
in the nation) school that had only beat Iowa State once, in 1900.  It was
a fine show by UNI, and makes ISU a distant #3 in the state of Iowa.
(1. Iowa, 2 UNI 3. ISU).  Good luck panthers!!!!!!!
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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: Huskies and parties
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:30:15 GMT

In article <1aai76INNd5i@aludra.usc.edu> bkowal@aludra.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal) writes:
#
#I saw on the news the mention of some UW Huskie players that partied a
#bit too much this last weekend.  Did they get in trouble with the law?
#Or was is just general no-info news that I heard.

Sounds like the news used the upcoming USW-UW game and this incident
as a teaser to get you to watch their next news broadcast. As usual,
the teaser was close, but they weren't all too accurate in their
representation of the facts.

Here's what happened according to three Seattle area papers (the 
Post-Intelligener, the Times, and the Journal-American):

The Phi Delts (Phi Delta Theta fraternity) were having a party. Beside
the Phi Delt house is a rental house. Some students (non Greeks) walked
out of the rental house. One of those students was a young lady who was
hit in the eye (her right eye?) with a beer bottle that was thrown from
the Phi Delt house. The bottle fractured her eye socket. A witness 
said that the bottle shattered when it hit her. No information was given 
as to the effects on her sight.

When asked about the incident, Don James (UW Football coach) said that
although there are football players who are Phi Delts, he did not know 
of any football players that were involved in the incident. He added that
he'd be one of the first to know if any football players were involved.

That's it.

Sounds like your local news was playing fast and loose with the facts.

-- 
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                               the hardest part of C to use 
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From: tsau@cae.wisc.edu (Johne Tsau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band: Southern Illinois (not UW )
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:26:45 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Sep22.135044.10519@cbnewse.cb.att.com> jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:
>>From: kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
>>
>>Ok, Ok.
>>The Wisconsin Band reads the sheet music,

I would like to add here, since I know some UW band members...
The Wisconsin band performs a completely new program every week,
and they don't resuse from week to week.  This makes not using
sheet music VERY difficult.  It also sometimes makes perfection
difficult in one week... but they add a lot of variety and
enthusiasm that other bands don't have.

>>The Wisconsin Band doesn't technically march the best,

The Wisconsin band doesn't use a standard core style march.  They
use a very high step, visual type of march which makes the step
look very crisp... alas this also makes playing music more difficult.

>>The Wisconsin Band certainly doesn't dance the best,
>>The Wisconsin Band doesn't perform the music the best,

Already admitted.  But another note is that the marching band conductor,
leader (whatever you call him) and his staff, write the programs by
themselves (this also could be altered programs, but they generally
add a lot of wisconsin flavor).

>>
>>BUT,
>>
>>As far as getting the crowd excited,
>>As far as flat-out entertainment,
>>As long as they have The 5th Quarter,
>>
>>There is no doubt in my mind that in these things, the UW Band is #1.


The Wisconsin band can get any crowed riled up... if you don't know
what 5th Quarter is, then you cannot have claimed to have seen the
Wisconsin band... they are NOT like other Big10 bands.

--
Johne...   Kariel the Margrave
"The question the truly scientific ask is 'Did God make man,
 or did man make God?'"

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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Bowl alliance a crock!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:21:00 GMT

In article <69641@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
> wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) wrote:
> 
> }Even though Arizona lost, I think they once again proved that
> }the Pac 10 is the strongest conference in football.
> 
> Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And college football computer rating systems.

> 
> }Somehow there exists a bias against the Pac 10 teams because somehow
> }they're not as "tough" as the teams from the other parts of the country.
> }If toughness means pulling off the win, like USC did against Oklahoma,
> }or Cal did against Clemson in last year's Citrus Bowl,
> } what is it about the Pac 10 that is viewed with disdain?  
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Cliff Slauterback?


> -- 
> Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
> 
>     "I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!"       


-- 
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From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Attn:  CAL WEENIES!!!
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:14:35
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: crs@milton.u.washington.edu's message of Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:45:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.224548.27838@u.washington.edu>, 
	crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

   Please, I need your help.  

You call us weenies and then ask for our help?  Some people...

   As some of you may be aware, the most hated team in the Pac Ten
   (gernerally speaking, obviously everyone has there specific
   rival) comes up to Husky Stadium this week.  You all know what this means.
   72,000+ fans will be forced to listen to that damn song about 100 times.
   I know that at last year's game, the Cal Weenies came up with lyrics to
   the tune, and sang them every time U$C's band played the blasted thing.
   If you would be so kind as to post them, I will try and get the Husky
   student section to sing along.  

Oh, but it's for a good cause.  I guess we can forgive you.  Once.

   If I recall, the words went something like

   This is the only song we know,
   It's stupid and it's slow,
	^^^^^^ "boring"
   We really wish you'd go,

   Please, in the name of good musical taste....save us!

That's about it.  Repeat ad nauseum.  Other verses include:

	This is the only song we know
	Your mother is a ho
	Your sister needs a blow

and other similiarly tasteless additions.

David Paschich
From: guest@ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu (Guest)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UNI Stomps on ISU
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:49:03 GMT
Organization: Atmos. Science, Colorado State Univ.

In article <1992Sep28.035049.9107@ccad.uiowa.edu> tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon) writes:
>
>	I would just like to congratulate the Northern Iowa Panthers on
>defeating Iowa State.  The Panthers are a Division I-AA (Currently ranked #4
>in the nation) school that had only beat Iowa State once, in 1900.  It was
>a fine show by UNI, and makes ISU a distant #3 in the state of Iowa.
>(1. Iowa, 2 UNI 3. ISU).  Good luck panthers!!!!!!!
>-- 
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> |   |  | \/ |  (_  |_| |_| |\ | |\ | | | |\ | timothy-shannon@uiowa.edu 
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Tim, maybe all Iowa and Iowa State fans should switch to UNI, seeing that 
Iowa (1-3) and Iowa State (2-2) are both pathetic.  And, it doesn't get any 
better this week, with Iowa facing Michigan and ISU facing Oklahoma.  Looks
like Iowa will be 1-4 and ISU 2-3.  Now, I expect that from ISU, but the 
mighty Hawkeyes?  Looks like a possible losing season for Fry and the Squawks.
Go Panthers, take the 1-AA title!!

J. Knowles                                GO CLONES!!!!!
knowles@tachu.atmos.colostate.edu         Final Four in Hoops 1993!!
From: morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Gupta Power Ratings 9-28-92
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:52:02 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

I asked:
>>>A question on your ratings: when you compute a team's opponent's
>>>W-L-T, do you recognize head-to-head games among the opponents?
>>>(I'm assuming you discard the actual game against the team in
>>>question.)
>>>
>>>In other words, if team A (5-0) beat teams B(4-1) and C(3-2),
>>>and team B beat C, is A's opponent's W-L-T
>>>
>>>a) 7-3  (straight addition--bad)
>>>b) 7-1  (discard games with A--better)
>>>c) 6-0  (also discard game between B and C)

In article <92273.213434C31801AG@wuvmd.wustl.edu> Bapi Gupta writes:
>I do (b), doing (c) would screw up the conference games 

It is exactly the conferences that I am thinking of.  
If each team plays every other team in the conference, the opponents'
winning percentage will be .500 for those games.  Even in conferences
where each team doesn't play all of the others (PAC-10, Big-1?, WAC,
SEC sort of, etc.) the percentage will still be pretty close to .500.  
This unfairly penalizes conference teams by watering down their 
opponent's W-L-T.  

It also penalizes small sets of rivalries like in-state groups of
three or more (such as Florida (please, no more "chicken whatevers"), 
Utah, etc.)

There are, of course, other anomalies (such as UW-Neb-ASU which you
point out) that can pop up.

>and if you really
>think about it, if you did a theoretical (d), i.e. take (c) one step
>further, you would have to eliminate all games played because your
>opponent's have common opponents and so on and so on and so on.

I'm not talking about extending this all the way.  You're right
that it is a closed system, but you can still try to ignore the 
first-level closure (like in conferences).

As Mark Mitchell points out in a later article, the example I gave
means that these three teams are collectively unbeaten.  While
this need not be taken to the extreme of 106 schools (or whatever
it is now), it could still be considered for much smaller sets.

-- 
Bryan Morse                University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: WOOOOOOOFFFFFFF
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.155037.4131@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
> 
> Clemson (1-2,0-2) was the nicest thing Ive seen in the newspaper in years!
> 
> has a nice ring, huh? Clemson (1-2,0-2). there. ive said it again.
> 
> I know ive probably doomed UVA to lose to Clemson by posting this, but
> I cant help it.
> 
> -rob
> clemson (1-2,0-2)


The unbelievable part is that they are still in the top 25 (25th);
a 1-2 team, a team that couldn't throw the ball for more than 10 yds 
downfield..

what a joke. 



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From: Hinding.1@nd.edu (John E. Hinding)
Subject: Re: Why won't ND play FAMU?
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:45:53 GMT

In article <wade.a.yoder.7.3.0@nd.edu>, wade.a.yoder.7@nd.edu (Wade A.
Yoder) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Sep25.192024.10523@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
> >From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
> >Subject: Why won't ND play FAMU?
> >Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 19:20:24 GMT
> 
> 
> >Actually what this really means is that Florida A&M really does have the balls to
> >play Miami, unlike ND who not only doesn't have the balls to play Miami, they also
> >don't have the balls to play the Rattlers (FAMU for the uninitiated). For all you
> >ND fans with clout in the AD's office, the Canes have a couple of open dates next
> >year, how about it? Let's see some balls, call the Canes and schedule a date. We'll
> >be there, will you? Of course we don't want you if you have any blemishes on your
> >record. It wouldn't meet our high athletic standards d8~).
> 
> >John T.
> 
> >Go CANES! Go DOLPHINS!
> >-- 
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >If you take yourself too seriously, you'll be the only one who does.
> 
> >..John "Dolphinatic" Turman...

That's okay, you won't meet our academic standards.  Miami fans are a bucnh
of losers and we don't want to be associated with criminals.  We have
balls, we'll reject a athlete if he can't cut it academically...How about
you?
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