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From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: About boots and blisters?
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:50:39 GMT
Organization: FOA, Linkoping, Sweden

ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:


>Hello folks,
>   I have been learning to ski over the past few years and I have a problem
>with boots.  I have been using rental equipment and I always seem to get
>blisters from the boots on the inside of my legs.  i.e. just above the
>ankle on the part of my legs that face each other. 
>   I have been thinking of getting my own boots because my feet are an
>odd size and rentals are always a compromise fit, but these blisters on
>my legs are a real problem.  What do I need to look for in boots to 
>prevent this?  As for the odd size mentioned, I wear 7-1/2 EEE shoes.
>For rental boots I usually get 8-1/2 boots and they seem OK except for the
>rubbing on the leg, and I usually have them clamped tight.
>   Any helpful hints?  Thanks.

If you got odd feet, you might want to take a look at foamed boots. ( I don't
know if it's called that in english. You have an empty inner shoe into which 
you inject floating polyuretan foam while you're wearing the boot. The result 
is a supreme fit.) I need extra wide boots and a couple of years ago I got 
tired of buying too big boots, just to get into them and went and bougfht 
Strolz boots. Kinda pricey, though, but they are the most comfortable boots 
I've ever had and gives me wonderful control.

cheers


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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:08:42 -0500 
From: "Lynne M. Reder" <lr0e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: cheap room at the Inn at J. Hole

I have a reservation at the Inn at Jackson Hole for the 19th through the
25th of January.  I have already paid for it (only $75 per night). Someone
at reservations told me that if I found someone else (or a pair to split
the cost)  who wanted to go for
7 days--they did not have to be the exact same 7 days, but I guess overlapping
with some of mine, they could have my room at that rate ($525.90 total),
and she would refund my money.  Any takers?  Please send email.  Thanks!

~Lynne

reder+@cmu.edu
From: ralph@isis.CSS.GOV (Ralph Webber)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: info/conditions on Bromley, VT area needed
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:48:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ENSCO, Inc., Melbourne, FL

A friend of mine has an opportunity to vacation in a condo in Bromley,
VT in the next couple of weeks and would like some help getting info.

If anyone has any information on conditions, # of trails, elevations,
snow making capabilities, etc. about Bromley, VT could you please post
or e-mail me this info. Any hotlines or toll free #'s would also be
greatly  appreciated.

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From: mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Raven)
Subject: Ammendment 2 and skiing
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:06:12 GMT

This group is about skiing, skiing anywhere!  The ammendment 2 issue
can be debated in many other groups.  Whether you choose to ski in 
Colorado or not and why or why not is YOUR BUSINESS.  Keep off-topic
political bullshit out of this area!  Thanks!
From: crane@coral.bucknell.edu (The Whooping Crane)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Size 11-11.5 ski boots for sale
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:49:58 -0500
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA, USA
Distribution: worlds
NNTP-Posting-Host: coral.bucknell.edu


I have a pair of Salomon SX71 ski boots for sale.
They are grey and fit size 11 to 11.5 foot.
I only used them 3 times and they are in great shape.
I would like around $100 for them.
Or feel free to make an offer!!

I also have a pair of size 11-11.5 Raichle Flexon Comps.
These boots are black and yellow.  they are in good condition.
I would like around $100 for them also but feel
free to make an offer.

Please reply to:  crane@coral.bucknell.edu

Thanks,

Curt
From: calondis@meaddata.com (David Calondis)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Train to Winter Park
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:34:57 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: usa
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In a couple weeks we are leaving from Indianapolis on Amtrak to Winter
Park!  We leave Saturday at 10:10am and arrive Winter Park Sunday at 
11:35am.  I believe the 11:35am arrival is a daily train from Denver.
Hope this helps!
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From: stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de (Roland Stahl)
Subject: nordic ski worldcup canceled?
Reply-To: stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: IPI University of Hannover
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:50:11 GMT


Hello,
Does anybody know what happened to the nordic Ski-Worldcup last
weekend in Oberhof (Germany). Was it canceled because of the rain?
In case not, what are the results?

Roland
From: astinus+@pitt.edu (Mark E Porterfield)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Ammendment 2 and skiing
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:16:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1993Jan5.180612.6400@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Raven) writes:
>This group is about skiing, skiing anywhere!  The ammendment 2 issue
>can be debated in many other groups.  Whether you choose to ski in 
>Colorado or not and why or why not is YOUR BUSINESS.  Keep off-topic
>political bullshit out of this area!  Thanks!

Thank you...thank you...*mass applause*

rec.skiing != [IS NOT] to a political Grandstand...got it..yet??

MArk E. Porterfield
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Re: The BIG CARVE
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 15:40:12 GMT

aglgrad@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (A Garret Lisi) writes:

>Snow junkies,
>The third day was pure stoke.  I got on the right hill and
>locked into the BIG CARVE.  It was like surfing a 9000 ft.
>wave. =B-o
>Now I wanna board.  I'm not a skate thrasher ("jibbin"?)
>but rather a soul surfer searching for that BIG CARVE.
>So, the $500 question is: what's the difference between
>a freestyle board and a board just for carving and what
>is the best board for a non-thrasher with a little room
>for freestyle?

One comprehensive snowboard test was done this
year by any major publication.  In the November '92
issue of Skiing is an article called Freedom Riders.
They test 11 different all-around (also referred to
as all-mountain and free-riding) boards.  I have a
Burton M6.0 which was tested in this article.  It
got one of the highest ratings which I agree with.
This board is light and quick turning.  It has
a round symetrical nose so it works well in powder
and generally works well all over.

Mark

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From: Groenke <kevin@ssc.space.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: midwest skiing
Organization: Shepherd Labs
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:25:37 GMT

I admit that my native Minnesota is flat, but Wisconsin to a native
Aspenian,  I'm sorry, what's the punishment for?

I'm not sure where Boyne Mtn. is, but I'm pretty certain it's not on the
U.P. of Michigan.  The U.P.'s  Blackjack, Indianhead, and expecially
WhiteCap Mtn's shadow even the best mediocre skiiing in Minnesota,  which
means that they are giants compared to southern Wisconsin fare.  Although
WhiteCap is alphabetically similar to WhiteHorse, topographically it is a
very far cry.  If all else fails you could trek out to rural Illinios and
hire some cornhusker to pull you behind his snowmobile!    Weee!!!
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From: hempatel@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Hemanshu Patel)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Skiing in Massachusetts?
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:44:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	Hi

	I am planning to be in the Massachusetts area for the weekend
	of 1/14-1/18 and was wondering how the skiing is in the general 
	area. I will probably be staying somewhere in Boston but really
	don't mind driving out to the western part of the state. Any 
	advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanx...

	Hemanshu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: bgohari@wam.umd.edu (Babak Gohari)
Subject: New Mexico Skiing
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:25:20 GMT

I plan to be in New Mexico in less than two weeks, and I want to get some
skiing done.  Has anyone ever been to either Ski Cloudcroft or Ski Apache?
I believe they're small resorts; certainly much smaller than Taos.  Is it
worth taking my skis with me?  Unfortunately, I'm in southern NM, so I can't
go to the better places up north.  Thanks...

-Bob
From: kennb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Ken Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Planning a trip to Tahoe
Keywords: Heavenly
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:49:44 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1993Jan12.214023.22951@leland.Stanford.EDU> liza@leland.Stanford.EDU (Liza Hope Rothschild) writes:
>I group of friends and I are planning to go skiing this weekend at Heavenly.
>Right now it is raining at Stanford and I was wondering if anyone knew if 
>Tahoe was getting precip. from the same system.  What are the present 
>conditions?  Do you know the names of any cheap decent places to eat?  Any

Well gee, that's why resorts have snow phones with condition
updates.  Try Heavenly's at 9165411330.  It would be a safe bet that
they are getting snow out of this storm....

Have fun.


KB

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From: couch@unislc.uucp (Keith Couch)
Subject: Re: stinky boots
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:30:52 GMT

Dan B. Kasha (kasha@twolf4.ee.washington.edu) wrote:
: Sorry bout the dull post, but I ski in my boots every two days, and well they
: are getting ripe.  Lange XRi's.  Anyone know the best way to wash deoderize
: or other a pair of boots?
: 
: thanks
: dan

Dan:

Pull the liners out of the boots and let them dry. You can  also
sprinkle the liners with "Arm and Hammer Baking Soda" as a good
deoderant.


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From: jwnagle@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Jim Nagle)
Subject: Re: Happiness
Reply-To: jwnagle@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Jim Nagle)
Organization: National Inst. of Health, NINDS, LMCN
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:45:09 GMT

I started skiing in 1986. Last year I took my first lessons. I avoided lessons
mostly due to the expense but also (at first) because  I had no interest in
learning to snowplow. Perhaps this was foolish, you be the judge. In the 
interim learning period I progressed to a certain point and never hurt anyone
through loss of control.

I can appreciate the philosophy of the original poster that fashion/style
are irrelevent to having fun. I now feel that most people would benefit
from an occaisonal lesson. But as long as you're not running over other
people on a regular (or even irregular) basis if you want to forego lessons I 
don't see anything wrong with that. Have fun and be carefull.

I hope that you choose your times of riding the fine edge of control
appropriately, if not I hope you lose your lift ticket before you seriously
hurt someone other than yourself.
-jim
From: goldberg@unixg.ubc.ca (Goldberg Andrew)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: cross-country in New England
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:27:57 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: us
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <1993Jan7.173103.19488@ctp.com> rvele@ctp.com (Raymond Velez) writes:
>	Can anyone suggest some good crosss-country places near
>Boston.?  We would like some mountains and steeps involved.. We would
>also like it to be in the woods and not in an open field.  Thanks in
>advance.
>		

	Try the trails through the Lincoln Conservation lands.  They're wooded
	and hilly, though steep extended runs are not to be found.  You'd
	need to get out west or north for that sort of thing.  Contact the
	Lincoln guide service for maps, conditions, etc.

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From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Business Trip to Utah
Keywords: Utah, April
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: utah
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:15:01 GMT


Hi All!

I have some questions/queries on skiing in Utah during the month of
April.  I have an upcoming business trip to Park City, Utah in late
April -- as it is, I am planning on leaving California early so that
I may get a chance to do some serious skiing before all of my so called
"scheduled activities."

Can anyone give me a good recommendation on places that might be good
for easy day trips from The Olympia Hotel in Park City -- preferably
a resort that runs a shuttle that is easily accessible to the hotel.

Please reply via email, since I do not have much of a chance to read
this group very often when online.  Thanks in advance!

Russell

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From: hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skis to Boards
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:50:46 GMT
Organization: EDS Research


>>I am in the National Ski Patrol at a small ski area in Central New York and our  
>>neighbooring ski center Greek Peak Ski Resort has a National Patroller
>>certified to drive sleds while riding a snowboard.  My area doesn't allow
>>snowboards but we have two patrollers that can drive sled with telemark skis,
>>too.  The physics of driving a sled with a snowboard is easy.  All you do is
>>slide.....
>>
>>				Rob  (The Roving Patroller)

Since I posted the original message, there have been a number of reponses
that affirm that boarders do indeed patrol in some areas, so I must humbly
eat my words.  I really see no problem with patrolling on a board as long
as the only direction you have to travel is down hill, but what about those
times when you have to climb up hill to someone, or skate across flats, or
flounder around in the powder setting up 'boo and orange rope?

h. kelly shuldberg
hkelly@edsr.eds.com
Albuquerque, NM
From: dianeho@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Diane Ho Binder)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Killington Skiing
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:00:19 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpdstma.ptp.hp.com

Hi,

Since I've never been to Killington before, I wonder whether some netters
can tell me how the ski would be like for the 3rd week of this January.
I'll be skiing in the weekend.  Will it be very crowded?  Will there be
much snow at that time of the year?  I heard that Killington makes a lot of
snow since it won't have much snow!  Would that be too icy to ski?
Thanks for any info.

Diane


From: scochran@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Steve Cochran)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:57:59 GMT
Subject: European Haute Route
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

Howdy;

  I'd like to ski the Haute Route in France/Switzerland sometime.  Can you
people tell me where to get information?  I'm looking for advice on what
equipment (telemark or randonnee), hut fees/reservations, trip timing and
so on.

Thanks,

Steven Cochran
From: wsun@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Fiberman)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: ski places near San Diego
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:36:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

What are some cheap places to go skiing near San Diego?

-fm
From: stur@TIS.COM (Jeff Sturgess)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Help photographing in snow
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:05:49 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.


> The reason I mention this is because I imagine the snow and ice might
> pose some odd problems for taking pictures.  If anybody has ever done
> this (obviously they have or else ski mags would be pretty dull :),
> could you give me few pointers, such as:

> I'm assuming I should be over exposing by about a stop because of the
> reflective quality of ice and snow, right?  More?


There is an article Winter photography in the February issue of "Outdoor
Photographer" magazine.  Winter light has a lower intensity because from
November to January, the sun is lower in the sky.  "If you're in a full-light
situation any other time of year, you get more light on the scene.  A scene
that you'd shoot at 1/500 sec. at f/5.6 in April will, in these deep Winter
months, be correctly exposed at 1/500 sec. at f/4 or f/4.5, or open up to a
full stop more."

The article also recommends not using your camera on automatic because it
will meter off the snow and your pictures will end up gray.  Instead, use
a hand-held meter or take your camera reading off a grey tree or even off 
the back of your hand.  

I can't do the article justice here but this info should help you out.  
Good luck, have fun, and ski for me -- I'm grounded at least for this year
due to a serious knee injury from a NASTAR course last year.


Jeff
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From: chill@uceng.uc.edu (Charles Hill)
Subject: Best barefoot lakes
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:09:28 GMT

I am interested in the best lakes for barefoot water skiing in the midwest
and south central regions of the US.  Please post or E-mail the name and 
location of any public/private water that has calm to glassy water.  

A waterski mailing list is being set up.  Mail to:

hillcs%ML%WPAFB@mlgate.ml.wpafb.af.mil

To join.

Thanks,
Chas
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From: robert@sys.sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson)
Subject: Re: Help photographing in snow
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:57:09 GMT
Organization: Data General AB, Akalla, Sweden
Keywords: photography, lighting, skiing

In article <1idaipINN1f4@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, echo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Super U.S. citizen, super achiever . . .) writes:

> The reason I mention this is because I imagine the snow and ice might
> pose some odd problems for taking pictures.  If anybody has ever done
> this (obviously they have or else ski mags would be pretty dull :),
> could you give me few pointers, such as:
> 
> I'm assuming I should be over exposing by about a stop because of the
> reflective quality of ice and snow, right?  More?

Give it at least 1 1/2 stops and preferrably two stops. If you have
an incident light meter, check with it and compare with the camera's
reading from the snow. The difference is typically between 3 and 4 stops,
meaning that you would have to overexpose by 3 to 4 stops in order to get
a true white snow. This, however, is out of most color films' exposure
range. Thus the two stops.

> What's good film, ASA, any problems with equipment in cold weather (I
> have a Minolta X-700 with a couple of zoom lenses I plan to take).

I assume you're going to use color films. For use between ISO 50
and 100 in good weather. In dull weather, use between ISO 100 and 400.
Remeber that the snow will look white and lifeless without many details
in dull weather. Also bring many spare batteries. I'm not sure what
kind of batteries the X-700 uses, but avoid alkalines. They don't last
long in cold weather. Use lithium, silver-oxide, NiCd or NiHy cells instead.


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From: tilley@fsh.UUCP (Tom Tilley)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: N Tahoe region 1/2
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:52:07 GMT
Reply-To: tilley@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale

In article <1993Jan4.184416.10121@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>Date: 1/2/93 10 AM
>Location: Alpine Meadows, CA
 ...
>Elevation: 6800 ft
>Avalanche hazard: very High

On 1/1/93, at 1:00 P.M., an extreme avalanche hazard warning was issued
for the west end of Donner Lake (fortunately, the ski cabin I'm a member
of is elsehwere).  I still saw this warning on the cable late on 1/2.  People
were advised to "remain indoors and minimize movement".

U.S. 50 was closed for the same reason, CA 89 was closed between Alpine
Meadows and Tahoe City due to an avalanche for 7-8 hours, and the Alpine
Meadows Road closed for two hours for avalanche control.

Tom.
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mayer@cs.columbia.edu (Alain Mayer)
Subject: lost in NYC ;-)
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:26:53 GMT


Hi there!

I am originally from Switzerland and moved recently to New York City.
I love skiing, but unfortunately all the people I know here do not
share this interest with me. 
So I am wondering whether there are any ski-clubs or such similar
things, since it is not much fun to go skiing alone (apart from
the fact that I really do not know which of the ski-stations in the
East are worthwhile to try out).

Any info is much appreciated.
Regards,