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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Stopping Thurman Thomas ...
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:46:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: europa.1992Oct1.144613.11561
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division

In article 1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu, cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu () writes:
>       I hope you Bills fans are ready for the ride of a life time.
>The Dolphins are ready for the Bills! My biggest worry is Therman
>Thomas. In the last five years Miami has not been able to stop him.
>Hopefully this year with Offerdahl back and a healthy Bobby Harden
>and rookie Troy Vincent, Thermal can be slowed down a bit. If the fins
>can hold Thermal to under 100 yards receiving and running (the sum)
>I think the dolphins have a great chance to win. If not then things
>could start snowballing for the Buffalo offense, with the crowd firing up
>the whole team. This would mean a long day for the fins. Hopefully
>Olivadotie(sp?) will finally come up with a plan to keep Therman from
>roaming free through the Dolphin's deffense as he usually does. Any way
>that's the key as I see it. I'll be keeping an eye on Therman and
>the deffense during round one of the Dolphin-Bills series this year.
>

I would think that Miami would be looking at the films from last year's
Super Bowl, when the Redskins defense put such a pass rush that Thomas
stayed back as an additional blocker.  Kelly lost his safety valve and was
thoroughly confused for much of the game.


Bob

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From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: AFC East
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:20:24 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <BvnLoo.2C6@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
> Here is something pleasant to look at for once. Take a long look Bills fans
> cause this is how its going to look all year.
> 
> AFC East             W     L     PF      PA       vs. AFC        vs. Division
> 
> MIAMI                4     0    109      60        3-0              1-0
> BUFFALO              4     1    163      82        2-1              2-1
> INDIANAPOLIS         2     2     48      75        1-2              0-1
> N.Y. JETS            1     4     81     117        1-1              1-0
> NEW ENGLAND          0     4     34      95        0-3              0-2
> 
>     _____________________________________________________________________
>    |  "Life's a Bitch and then we all        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
>    |   get fucked"                           * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
>    |_____________________________________________________________________|

No, the Jets will overtake Indy  :)
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From: gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: Dangerous Dan
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:58:22 GMT

ds> David Shao

ds> Joe Namath is a legend of the game in a way Elway can never be, because
    Namath led his team to the AFL's first victory in the Super Bowl.

  Ably helped by 21 other fellows. Anyway, the point is that using the SB as
  a metric of judging a QB's greatness is bogus. Merely winning, or playing
  in, an SB does not mean a whole lot one way or the other when judging the
  quality of a QB. Tony Eason and Steve Grogan made it the SB, are they bet-
  ter than Moon? I don't think so.

--
Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphins, Jets
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:30:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1a9eniINNhek@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox) writes...
> 
>In a previous article, v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) says:
> 
>>In article <BvBtFL.KG0@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v134junv@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Donald A Martin) writes...
>>	What?  The Jills?  The 'dol-foons'??  Who are you insulting?  Both?
>>Please try and speak English so at least we can understand your flames!  (:
>Yes, the Dolphins have yet to play a good team.  Unfortunately, they are
>only playing Dunggalo next week.
	      ^^^^^^^^

	Huh?  Whuzzat?	
> 
>Mike
>-- 


Jonny B.
From: jeff@photon.cs.tamu.edu (Jeff Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Oilers sign receiver Slaughter
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:37:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: photon.JEFF.92Sep29193716
Reply-To: Jeff@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Texas A&M University

HOUSTON -- The Oilers signed Webster Slaughter today for two years.  He
will take Leonard Harris's position in the starting lineup in the Oilers
next game against Cincinnati on October 11.  Terms of the deal have not
yet been disclosed.

Houston may now have a suitable replacement for Drew Hill, who they lost
to Plan-B, and for whom Leonard Harris was starting.  Leonard Harris has
been steady, with 19 catches so far, but has not been much of a big play
threat.
--
           Jeff Goldberg                        
           College Station, Texas
From: hanke@CS.ColoState.EDU (brandon laine hanke)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Attention CHIEFS Fans
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:19:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

All of you Kansas City Chief fans out there, can some one help me 
with the following trivia question?

    The last time the Chiefs won at Mile High, who was there quarterback?

I am thinking that it is either Steve DeBerg or Bill Kenny.
You can E-mail me at hanke@cs.colostate.edu or post here, I would like it
by this after noon if possible.

    Thank You in advance.


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From: thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell)
Subject: Re: Bengals Problems ???
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:12:45 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <1992Sep28.050720.23938@babbage.ece.uc.edu> saji@thor.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji) writes:
>
>    Personally I think they should have never fired Sam Wyche. 
> Sam Wyche may not be the best head coach, but he is definitely
> one of the best offensive coach. Firing Dick LaBeau (sp ?)
> and hiring R. Lynn as defensive co-ord would have solved most of

I Agree with this point.


>   Defense has NOT improved. Only the Defensive line has improved which
> has Bengals leading the NFL in sacks, but that doesn't seem to be stopping
> teams from airing it against the Bengals. Pass defense sucks ... that to 
> after decent pressure is being put on the QB. David Fulcher and Ricky 
> Dixon are supposed to start against Houston, but will that stop Moon and
> his recvrs. (Unless he throws for 5 ints). 

This isn't true.  The defense has improved *greatly* Francis is *finallY*
being played like he should be (instead of wondering around like a free
safty)  The problem has been with Bently getting hurt, and Fulcher being
out.  I think we'll notice quite a few changes when Fulcher and Dixon are
both in the secondary. 

>   As far as the offense goes, Bruce Koserski, said today on a local talk 
> show that the problem started today 'cos we had to switch from our running
> game to passing game. I thought our passing game was one of our strong pts.
> Why should that be such a problem unless Boomer is not making the calls and 
> some jerk on the sideline is ..... I think they should allow Boomer to make 
> more calls and go for more passing plays on 1st downs. 
>
> p.s how about Klingler ???

I've been watching Boomer for years.  Ever since the last time they went to
the Super Bowl he's *sucked*.    Boomer *is* making most of the calls (if
not all of them) and any call that comes in he doesn't like he audibles
away anyhow.  Esiason is scared to *death* of throwing the ball.  He's so
afraid of throwing an interception that that is *exactly* waht he does.  
I was there at the game yesterday and I saw it.  He threw *directly* to the 
recievers.  You could tell most of the time that he was apprehensive about 
throwing the ball he look shook most of the time.  He did have a bright
spot at the end of teh second half but, he wasn't worried abuot an INT 
then because there really wasn't enough time left in the game.  Boomer 
is washed up.. get him out of there.  And before putting Klinger in lets
see some of Hollas.  I've liked him ever since I've seen him last year.
He scrambles back in there if he's pressured and the offenese as it 
is right now is made for his kind of game.  The run and the short pass.

Alex
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ten best rated QB performances ever
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:07:46 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu


  Well, I don't have my NFL stat book handy, but surely every Giant fan
(and probably most Bronco fans) remember Phil Simms' monster
performance in the '86 Superbowl.  If memory serves me right, he
completed all but 3 passes out of 25 attempts for nearly 300 yards!  I
have no idea what his QB rating was for that game, but I'm sure it's
got to be one of the best (if not the best) in any playoff/championship
game and should have a high enough rating to be listed in the top 10
best performances ever.  Go Gia's!!!

-MC
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Harbaugh Gets Ass Chewing
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:40:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.200451.23916@menudo.uh.edu>, HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>  Just one:  Why bother creating audibles if you're gonna jump the QB when
>he calls one?  Yeah, the pass was INT, but that can happen anytime.  Ditka
>was probably just in a bad mood, but I think it shows a complete lack of
>sense if he lets it stand (not to mention class).

It wasn't just any play.  I get the impression Ditka sometimes delegates
authority to call plays in the huddle.  On this particular play, he did not;
he sent in a specific play.  He may think the only reason Harbaugh
audiblized was that he didn't like Ditka's play.

The impression I got from Ditka's clip on the news was that this was
Harbaugh's final warning.  He will continue to start if he agrees to follow
orders.

As for the rest of the Bears game, it was stupidity.  They seemed to quit
after one bad play.  Oh well, at least the Saints and 9ers are doing well.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphins vs Seahawks observations
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:51:58 GMT
Organization: Houses of the Holy

In article <1992Sep29.205246.20762@pbhya.PacBell.COM>, drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall) writes:
> In article <2487@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) writes:
> >For the 20th time in his NFL career, Dan Marino brought the Dolphins
> >back from behind in the fourth quarter to win the game 19-17 in the
> 
> This is an interesting statistic. Would any other fans care to state how
> often their quarterback has brought their team back in the fourth qtr?
> Please include quarterbacks that are the starter, but are out because of injury
> such as Kosar.


Isnt Elway about the same?  20 times in the 4th qtr he's come back?


-- 
Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: GIANTS blow another one
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:12:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Well, at halftime it looked like the GIANTS were possibly on their way to
their 2nd win of the year.  Simm was hot, the defense actually defended and
Perry Williams (replacing Everson "here have a touchdown, it's on me" Walls)
made some great saves. Score at haltime was 10-0.

The second half, the Raiders drive for a field goal.  Then on a third and 14,
Mark Collins does his BEST impression of Everson Walls and trying to make 
"the big play" gives the Raiders an easy touchdown (and to a guy coming off
a hamstring injury).

Later, Collins gets burned again for an easy play to set up another Raiders
field goal.  Finally, on the next GIANTS drive, when they are forced t punt,
the Raiders get a penalty AND GIVE THE BALL BACK TO THEM. Bur Handley and Co.,
must not like winning because when they get to the 30 (easy field goal range
for Matt Bahr), and everyone (including the announcers) see a blitz coming,
they call for a passing play. Offensive line (and they really were offensive)
crumbles and Simms gets sacked for a loss of 19.  They give the game to you
on a platter and the GIANTS did not want it.  

Well, seeing how poorly the Skins are doing, the GIANTS actually had a chance
for a 9-7 season but at this rate ... 2-14 for the year (maybe they'll split
Phoenix).  Ray will be jobless. Mark Collins SHOULD be jobless. Hell, fire
them all. What a lazy bunch of underachievers ....

satish nair
MARK COLLINS MUST GO!

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: NFC Central QBs
Organization: University of Michigan
	<1992Sep29.150534.24117@ncar.ucar.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:57:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.150534.24117@ncar.ucar.edu> gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:

   Cumulative through week 4 (minimum 40 attempts):
   Pos Name              Atts  Comp   Cmp%  Yards  AvgGn  TDs TD %  INT  IN% RATE
   --- ----------------  ----  ----  -----  -----  -----  --- ----  --- ---- -----
     1 R. Cunningham       72    53   73.6    702   9.75    8 11.1    0  0.0 141.1
     2 Jim Kelly           99    67   67.7   1028  10.38   10 10.1    2  2.0 127.0
     3 Steve Young         92    62   67.4    826   8.98    6  6.5    1  1.1 112.9
     4 Troy Aikman         87    54   62.1    717   8.24    6  6.9    2  2.3 101.6
     5 Chris Chandler      81    51   63.0    625   7.72    3  3.7    0  0.0  99.0
     6 Brett Favre         72    44   61.1    572   7.94    4  5.6    1  1.4  98.8
Starting to believe.  I'm sure Sharpe is a very happy man.  Liked his nestee
move at the end of the pittsburgh game (that was him standing deep behind
favre, wasn't it john?)
     7 Rodney Peete        98    62   63.3    882   9.00    5  5.1    3  3.1  96.6
Remember, this is the guy who supposedly put detroit in a weak spot for qbs
     8 V. Testaverde       88    56   63.6    803   9.12    4  4.5    3  3.4  94.1
     9 Chris Miller       137    83   60.6    993   7.25    8  5.8    3  2.2  93.1
    10 Jim Harbaugh       127    79   62.2    950   7.48    6  4.7    3  2.4  91.0
    14 Rich Gannon        118    69   58.5    831   7.04    8  6.8    5  4.2  85.1
    18 Don Majkowski       55    38   69.1    271   4.93    2  3.6    2  3.6  77.2


Four games into the season is about as early as I believe trends are worth
talking about.  The "smash mouth"/"three yards and a cloud of dust" NFC
Central has 40% of the top 10 qbs.  Kind of amazing.  And the worst rated
passer is the guy with the biggest reputation comming into the season. 

Amazing.  

Bill
--
-------------------------------
	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: IRON CURTAIN
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:42:18 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <wel9y4_00VAtI4_Fh7@andrew.cmu.edu> Christopher Glenn Huegle <ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>A few interesting facts about the Steelers....
>Mark Royals is last in punting average
   Did okay at GB.

>Rod Woodson has half of the sacks so far this year
>Which means he only has one, since they only have 2
   Hey, they doubled that to 4 against GB.

>O'Donnell gets the job done
   Except against GB.

>The Steelers have a good passing attack w/o their best
>     reciever-Eric Green
   Still, only 16-41 for 24 against GB.

>Hoge hasn't done much all year.
   Still hasn't.

>The Steelers dominated the clock so far this year.
   GB time of possession--37:35, Pitt--22:25

>They have been coughing up the ball WAY too much, they
>     should have shut out the jets, but gave them a
>     couple of scores on turnovers.
   Only 1 fumble lost at GB.

>The Steelers have outscored the opposition 47-0 in the
>     second half so far this year
   Make that 47-7.

>Rod Woodson has been unbelievable so far this year in
>     his all around game.
   Got burnt by Sharpe and Brooks yesterday.

>Rod seems to just now be reassuming the role of kick/punt
>     returner
   That muff at the 8 hurt Pitt big-time. Ouch.

>The Steelers stand a good chance at going at least 6-0
   Well, 5-1, maybe.

>     since they have Green Bay, Cleveland, the Cincinnati,
>     all of whom, the Steelers are better than.
   Don't you just hate it when the better team loses!

>                    Thas all I can remebver now.
        All I can remember is JGH's Super Bowl prediction for the Packers.
	Is he a prophet or what??!!

>                         Chris
   --salty


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Addresses for NFL teams
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 30 SEP 92 13:34:41    

In article <1992Sep29.191433.18671@infonode.ingr.com>, john@porta.b24a.ingr.com (John Nolin) writes...

>Does anyone out there have a list of addresses for the various NFL
>franchises?  I'd greatly appreciate it.

Green Bay Packers
Bob Harlan - President
1265 Lombardi Avenue
Green Bay, WI 54304

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From: libr@elroy.uh.edu (Harvey Brauner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles thrash Cowboys...MNF
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:39:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <20984@plains.NoDak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes...
>Did the Gang-Green defence send out a loud message to all 
>others in the NFL that any road to the Super-Bowl will
>pass through the Vet. Stadium.
> 
>Did those Eagles thrash the Cowboys and silenced all this
>hype about Dallas. Granted, that Dallas is good, but 
>all those Texas teams, the OILERS included, talk more
>and do less and at the beginning of each season act as
>if the Superbowl is theirs to own.
> 
>Between the two Texas team, Dallas has a chance but the
>loud mouthed Oilers will NEVER make it. 
> 
>As a Vikings fan , I am waiting for Moon & Co. to
>come to the Metrodome... Boy! will I enjoy the
>carnage.

What in gods name do the Oilers have to do with the Cowboys?  What in the
heck does Dallas losing last night have to do with the Oilers.  What in the
heck does Minnesota have to do with Philly.  I don't really see the connection
here.



         Harvey Brauner - libr@jetson.uh.edu  | Systems Department    
                          crunge@menudo.uh.edu| Univeristy Libraries  
                                              | University of Houston 
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Eagles Destroy Dallas !!!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:05:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.173655.21591@bnr.ca> emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera) writes:
>In article <2576@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan
>Welch) writes:
>|>In article <1ar3ocINNfm0@shirley.cs.widener.edu> austin@cs.widener.edu
>(Jeff Austin) writes:
>|>>
>|    (Stuff Deleted)
>|>
>|>I haven't gotten through all the messages yet, but I'm sure I'll see a lot
>|>more woofing.  There's reason for it, too.  At the same time, though, I
>|>was happy to see the Cowboys put forth the effort in what was a tough
>|>situation, instead of folding.
>                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>   Sorry Daniel, I'm a 'Boy fan, and I have to disagree with you here.
>   The Cowboys did fold under the pressure.  As my buddy J.Gloria
>   would say the Cowboys did not have the HUEVOS to play the Eagles.
>   In other words,  the performance was awful.  They played SCARED.
>   You cant compete when you are scared.   Ask Troy, Emmitt, Novacek,
>   Johnston, Harper....the list goes on.   
>
>   I know I know this game was only the fourth of the season, but it
>   was a good indicator to measure the team's muturity.   Work is still
>   needed.  Troy has to show that can LEAD the team.
>
>   The Eagles are playing great football.   They dominated the 'Boys
>   on the football field.  Hopefully, this game will serve as a wake up
>   call for the 'Boys.   
>
>
>  I didn't expect them to win this game,
>|>and sure enough, they didn't.  But they're going to win a lot more this
>|>year, and if Philly hangs on to the division lead, as they probably
>|>will, they had better get use to having Dallas on their heels.
>|>
>|>Daniel Welch
>                                   

Hey Amigo Emilio,

I am slightly surprised and taken by your unbiased analysis of
the 'Boys loss to the Eagles. A very inexperienced and immature
QB and team in a big game do a CHOKE. Simple! My only digression
is your point about the Eagles playing great football. IMHO, a
further analysis of the Eagles performance was based on the 'Boys
lack of it. The stats favored the 'Boys except in the score. They
made too many mistakes. I don't think the Eagles coaches think 
they played that great. If they do, they are fooling themselves.
The Eagles, again, IMHO, are not going to beat a contender based
their overall performance last night. Their record is 4-0, but
this early in the season, it is just that, too early. The cream rises
to the top and their is only one crown to be given out. The
Eagles have a way to go yet, as well AS ALL the TOP NFL teams do,
to be considered great. They were great last night and in this
game, you are only as good as your last game. Tomorrow is a new
day. Doesn't that sound vaguely familiar to the Bills?
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain
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