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From: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Subject: neuro linguistic programm
Reply-To: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:09:49 EST

martinher@urvax.urich.edu writes:

M >I am sort of disappointed by this new NLP mailing list.  I just
M >discovered the 'alt.hypnosis' list recently and I am enjoying

Can someone forward the subscription request address for this list to me? 
Thanks in advance.

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From: mmccallu@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Zygon: Electronic Brain Booster... Bogus?
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:05:51 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


Re: Zygon International


I received some information in the mail (for the second time) about
an "Electronic Brain Booster" from Zygon International. This sunglasses
looking like device supposedly flashes light etc, and alters your
brainwaves to enable you to... speed learn, meditate,  boost brainpower,
zap stress, etc etc..

Sounds neat, but... Has anyone heard or used any of these devices before?

This company also offers "Smart Pills" that will help boost brain power...
energy bars... and Super Brain Power Secrets, that help you (1) triple
reading speed overnight, (2) instant recall of facts etc (3) Teaches you
how to integrate left and right brain learning, and (4) Unleashing Creativity.

Sounds neat, but... Buyer beware rings some bells. So does scam.

Any comments? Any convinced users? Anyone who feels ripped off?

Could the super learning part be like the program _Super Learning_ as 
described in Ostrander and Schoeder's book?

The address for the company is: Zygon International, PO Box 97022,
Redmond, WA, 98073-9722 should anyone be interested.

Thanks in advance for any comments.

Mark McCallum (MMCCALLU)
Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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From: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Subject: neuro linguistic programm
Reply-To: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 10 Jan 93 14:54:51 EST

In <1993Jan5.2539.1016#dosgate>, Hank <MSD4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

M >     There have been responses to this request on both sides (one says t
M >try the martial arts, and another says that they are no good).  I think
M >that both of these answers are correct.  It just depends on WHO is answe

I believe that martial arts would be particularly helpful to me since I've
found other physical activities such as working out at the gym helpful. 
For the same reason, I would probably find public speaking courses (or even
less active physical activities) less helpful because of a lack of
interest.  As you mentioned, a friend of yours finds cycling helpful...I
can definitely say this as well.  I recall that during exams, I would take
time between studying for exams and go out for a short ride and that would
clear my mind completely and allow me to think straight...for a change.
:-)  I also find driving to someplace a little more peaceful and scenic to
be helpul as well.

Glen Mead - RZ/RD 500 Owners Group
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:50:42 EST
From: Hank <MSD4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.self-improve
Subject: Joseph Campbell

     While watching Bill Moyers interview Professor Campbell in _The Power of
Myth_, I began to think about Campbell's views of mythology almost as a
"psychology of living".  Some of his thoughts about life and mythology were
very intriguing from a psychological point of view on how one lives one's
life.

     Has anyone else seen this series (6 one hour talks) or read any of
Campbell's works and had similar thoughts?  I am interested in _The Hero of
a Thousand Faces_ and I think it will be the next book I read of Campbell's.

     Thanks,

        Hank
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From: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Subject: neuro linguistic programm
Reply-To: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:09:49 EST

Hi All,

  Sometime ago I had several (7) sessions with an NLP therapist but I saw
very little in the way of results.  It got me through a particularly bad
time but I'm still far from where I'd like to be.  At the time, she
mentioned attending martial arts classes as a means of improving
confidence.  Does anybody have any comments on this?  If it is a good
idea, which of the martial arts should I be looking into (she recommended
Tae-Kwon-Do)?

  My biggest problems currently are a lack of self confidence, shyness
(specially with the opposite sex), and anxiety.  Can anybody suggest
anything that would help me break out of this rut?  I would like to become
more outgoing...anytime I go out anywhere, I sit back and watch but never
get involved and I'd like this to change.  One such example is that when I
go to a bar or dance club, I can never get up the nerve to go out on the
dance floor.

  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Glen Mead - RZ/RD 500 Owners Group
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From: joek@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Joe Karthauser)
Subject: Re: neuro linguistic programm
Organization: University of Sussex
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:20:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.2539.1016@dosgate>, "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com> writes:
|> Hi All,
|> 
|>   Sometime ago I had several (7) sessions with an NLP therapist but I saw
|> very little in the way of results.  It got me through a particularly bad
|> time but I'm still far from where I'd like to be.  At the time, she
|> mentioned attending martial arts classes as a means of improving
|> confidence.  Does anybody have any comments on this?  If it is a good
|> idea, which of the martial arts should I be looking into (she recommended
|> Tae-Kwon-Do)?
|> 
|>   My biggest problems currently are a lack of self confidence, shyness
|> (specially with the opposite sex), and anxiety.  Can anybody suggest
|> anything that would help me break out of this rut?  I would like to become
|> more outgoing...anytime I go out anywhere, I sit back and watch but never
|> get involved and I'd like this to change.  One such example is that when I
|> go to a bar or dance club, I can never get up the nerve to go out on the
|> dance floor.
|> 
|>   Any help would be greatly appreciated.
|> 
|> Glen Mead - RZ/RD 500 Owners Group
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NLP Is a great technique for improving your life totally, but like any
"self-improvement" methods you should try using it yourself rather than going to
someone else and asking them to do the work.

Try reading "Unlimited Power" by Anthony Robbins and possibly Frogs into Princes
by Bandler and Grinds (but only for more in depth view of NLP as this one is
intended for therapists).

The key to NLP is to change "robots" into people. We all react in prelearnt ways
to similar situations almost automatically, like Pavlov's Dogs. What NLP allows
us to do is to notice when we're running on autopilot and take control of the
situation that we're in.

Don't write NLP off because one person wasn't able to help you. Try and help
yourself because in the end you are the only person you KNOW that you can rely
on.

I hope this helps. Please post me if you wan't any help and I will try.

Yours confidently (but getting more confident every day)

	Joe


Josef Karthauser       EMail   joek@cogs.susx.ac.uk

Keep smiling, life's as wonderful as you want to make it.


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From: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Subject: neuro linguistic programm
Reply-To: "glen mead" <glen.mead@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:20:20 EST

curt@access.digex.com (curt williams) writes:

CW>This might be just the ticket you need, but you have to be careful.
CW>Martial arts schools/clubs are notorious for inconsistent quality,
CW>and some of them are out-and-out theives.

Yes, I've heard this as well.  I'll be checking out as many as I can.  Any
ways that you recommend which might help me in weeding out the low quality
schools and/or thieves?

CW>You ought to check out rec.martial-arts.  Very active net, with a
CW>lot of experienced, interested and helpful folks.

Will do...I have been intending to do this but I haven't gotten around to
this yet.  My mail packet has blossomed to quite a size these days. :-)

Glen Mead - RZ/RD 500 Owners Group
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From: "adrienne franco" <adrienne.franco@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.birthright
Subject: feminists for life
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:12:20 EST
Reply-To: "adrienne franco" <adrienne.franco@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Is anyone else on this list familiar with FEMINISTS FOR LIFE OF AMERICA?

I found out about this organization when the library I work for received a
copy of their newsletter "SISTERLIFE".  I took it home for a day and after
reading it, was quite impressed with their articulate "apologetics" (?)
for the pro-life movement.  The membership seems to be diverse.  Some are
openly Christian (as I am), but many others are not, and have come to this
position through careful thought, and sometimes experience.

I particularly like their phrase "PRO-WOMAN, PRO-LIFE".  They present
convincing documentation in the newsletter that early feminists were 
opposed to abortion, considering it a form of abuse towards women.

Abortion on demand allows women to more easily be viewed (and used) as
sex objects.  Men can more easily walk away from women without assuming
any responsibility, care, or compassion for either her or a child.

Anyone interested in this organization may contact them as follows:

FEMINISTS FOR LIFE OF AMERICA
811 E. 47th Street
Kansas City, MO  64110
(816) 753-2130

Adrienne Franco
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From: JONSARC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: feminists for life
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 13:17:50 EST

In article <1993Jan12.1842.607@execnet>
"adrienne franco" <adrienne.franco@execnet.com> writes:
 
>I particularly like their phrase "PRO-WOMAN, PRO-LIFE".................
>Abortion on demand allows women to more easily be viewed (and used) as
>sex objects.  Men can more easily walk away from women without assuming
>any responsibility, care, or compassion for either her or a child.
>
The mere existence of so many unwanted children and single mothers who have
been abandoned give evidence that the nonavailability or non use of abortion
when the man is shifty or noncommital (or changes his tune down the road) does
not necessarily persuade the "father" to stick around and behave responsibly.
Another piece of evidence is the disgustingly large amount of unpaid child
support.  Yes, it is sad.  Sad that society does in too many ways work against
women.  I don't think abortion is the culprit at fault.  There are many reasons
why a woman or couple decides for an abortion.  Not solely because the man is
not supportive.  The true culprits (in my opinion) are the government,
attitudes toward welfare mothers and single mothers, and prejudices against
personal choice in lifestyle.  Yes, a lot of men are jerks- especially the
ones who ditch their sexual partners with their children.  But a lot of women
can be jerks too.  What about orphanages- foster care- some people didn't
really didn't pull out all the stops as parents.  Those people include women-
maybe majorly because of the non-help (bad, expensive daycare, lack of family
leave, being cut off state for whatever reason, not receiving child support,
death of aparent, receiving state aid and realizing how horribly insufficient
and paltry life can be,  and more.)  It's not abortion rights that should be
taken away.  It's the society which is male-dominated and constructed and
makes it difficult for women to make their life "choices" ("life" here means
their life, not specifically pro-life) and survive.  I've seen a lot of women
go through abortions- it's never been exactly the same reason, some of the
choices for abortion were good and some were bad.  But, I don't think it was
for me to decide.  I just held their hands regardless, mourned their loss,
self-inflicted, but a loss.   I feel that I am pro-women.  I am glad that I
never had an abortion and that I have a daughter.  But it's hard and I
wouldn't force a woman to keep a pregnancy.  M!yporeover, what about all the
children in America today who have no stable family to speak of.  Perhaps more
attention to the homeless children needing adoption and the real causes of
discrimination towards women (all of them) should be the focus.  Then abortion
can just be a personal choice, not one that is made by the country we live in.
 
>if the hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world, why are women still so
fucked in this country of the free?      Sarah Jones, 22  mother, wife,
student, employed, and needing to nurse my 14 mo. old beauty.  take care
>--
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From: JONSARC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: pro-life:
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 22:41:19 EST

My name is Sarah Jones.  I'm 22 and live in New Haven, CT.  Your epic is
troubling me.  Why?  I'll be brief.  1- Most pro-choice people are, in my
opinion, that way because they feel a woman should be the one who chooses what
to do with her body, should the case be a pregnancy, sterilization,
contraceptives...  2- There are hundreds of thousands of Pro-lifers who storm
abortion clinics, harass pregnant women (who already have to deal with
emotional repercussions due to their decision and have no need for more), not
the smallish number you suggested.  3- Clinton has not ever said that abortion
should be legal throughout the whole term of the pregnancy- although I'm
inclined to allow the woman to do with her body what she will. 5?-Jack Kemp in
96???  I'd probably leave the country.  6- I have a child of my own and did
consider abortion, adoption, keeping her, the works.  I did choose life,
obviously, but would never deign to make another.  My child was real to me in
the early parts of the first trimester and I was unable to do anything except
be her mother.  But, it's all a frame of mind.  True personhood is still
arguable until the child is able survive outside of the woman/test tube.  And
until science figures out how to take the fetus out of the woman and place it
into the man- you'll never understand.
It's not ignorance or discrimination (sure what you put about finding out your
fetus could be homosexual and then aborting it for that reason is both, but
there are countless other reasons to abort, and for whatever reason- it's
"her" body).  It's all about choice and control over one's body.  Should I be
able to come into your home or inspect your life choices and jail you, or
force you to change, to make choices which are opposed to your own?  I'm
speaking to you specifically and am granting you the benefit of the doubt that
you are not an axe-murderer, child molester, crack dealer, etal.
                you can post here or directly to me but I'd like a reply
                I'm waiting.
From: sschilli@nmsu.edu (Sandy Schilling)
Newsgroups: alt.whine
Subject: Re: First whine
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:12:03 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University

In article <1993Jan4.212005.8626@news.acns.nwu.edu>, eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman) writes:
> 
> I heard it in Chicago and the weather here sucks rocks.
> 
> -Matt
> 


Sounded like a whine to me.  Good good.

--sandy
Newsgroups: alt.whine
From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: First whine
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:26:31 GMT

sschilli@nmsu.edu (Sandy Schilling) writes:
|It's grey in NM today (yes, it *can* happen; it just *doesn't* happen
|very often).  And it sucks, let's see, tofu?  No... WordPerfect manuals?

Ok, how about it sucking.. er.. umm. hmm. You say it's just grey? Not the
wonderful 2 degree weather with wind chills from hell? hmm.

Does it suck this new "crystal pepsi" stuff? (I haaaaaaaaaaate pepsi, by
the way, for anyone who knows the psu/pepsi story (barf))

What the hell is this "crystal pepsi" stuff, anyway? And why does the
machine upstairs say that I should be the first to try it?

Newsgroups: alt.whine
From: s13989bc@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: crystal pepsi
Reply-To: s13989bc@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 04:09:51 GMT

	If you think that crystal pepsi is bad, how about this. I went to the store and 
found that they have CLEAR TAB... a rip-off of a lousy drink. I mean
crystal pepsi is bad enough without a stinking copy cat, and Tab no less,
I thought they stopped making those groovy pink cans of soda years ago!
	AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
	Moxie is much better anyway
Newsgroups: alt.whine
From: etbeteille@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Second whine [finally]
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:40:58 MDT


They make me work facing a large, lavender-colored wall
with no radio and my boss just closed the door between
me and the hallway because some idiot came in from the
cold with SNOW on his boots and left footprints on the
pastel carpet.  I think I'm choking on old coffee fumes.

Eric.
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From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: First whine
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:28:14 GMT

sschilli@nmsu.edu (Sandy Schilling) writes:
|So, where *exactly* in the world was my whine heard?  Let's hear from you.

weeeeeeeeeeell, you got to "lovely" State College, Pa, where the sun shines
more than it does in Seattle, but not much more.

(the weather here really does suck beets)

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From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: First whine
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:44:09 GMT

sschilli@nmsu.edu (Sandy Schilling) writes:
|Well, Brian, you need to move out west where *WE* have to practically
|*import* Pepsi from foreign dealers.

wwwaaaaaa... almost eeeeeeevery place hereeee i like to go haaas pepsi..
including the good piiiiiiiizza place...

|(which, btw, only charged .35 a can in contrast with the .50 charged by Coke)

They charged .55 for coke and theeeeen they raaaaaaaised it to .60 after
peeepsi got here...

|I still don't condone this mystery crystal stuff, though.

Someone agrees with you; on the "try this new crystal stuff" sign today,
someone had written "Bring back 7-up!" I can't fathom why they replaced
7-up with that and kept that awful grape soda...

Newsgroups: alt.whine
From: etbeteille@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: First whine
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:38:31 MDT


> So, where *exactly* in the world was my whine heard?  Let's hear from you.
> 
> --sandy

A few of my friends at the Deaf and Blind School here in 
Colorado Springs, Colorado (the gay rights capital of the
world) heard it and asked me to log on and see who did it.
They haven't stopped whining about that whine.  But they
often do enjoy a little whine with dinner.

The idiots in Library Admin. have the AIR CONDITIONER on....
when it's 30 degrees outside!!!  Whaaaaah!!!

ETB
From: thorin@acca.nmsu.edu (Thorin)
Newsgroups: alt.whine
Subject: I hate whiners!
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:02:25 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

All you people whining about the most trivial of things are making me
crazy.  I like Pepsi/ I like Coke/ I don't like clear things blah,
blah, blah ...

I don't like to look things up in a dictionary, and it's so hard to
remember how to speell.  I can't pull up my favorite spell checker
while posting.  I can't find a decent Unix editor.  I sometimes have
to use VAX manuals.  My car looks like something Han Solo would pilot.
They don't sell Special Export here, or Lienenkeugel Bock.  Now these
are real problems, not some trivial whoo-ha blathered by people who
have great lives and nothing more to complain about then the color of
soft drinks!

Hell, I can't afford soft drinks!  I steal packets of sugar from the
school cafeteria, mix them with water and count my blessings.
Sometimes I'll steal ketchup and make tomatoe juice.  

I also haaate poofy bangs.  In fact I am thinking of buying sicisors
and hanging around the mall...  
First I'll sneak up behind them, the sound of them smacking gum should
cover any noise I night make, and then... *SNIP*  *SNIP*  *SNIP*
Assuming of course that I can cut through whatever concoction it is
that provides such rigidity to that hair...

But what I hate more than anything are people that just talk and talk
and go on about nothing with no thought to punctuation or speeling...


      /V\/V\
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    /   ___  \   thorin@acca.nmsu.edu
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   Bore:  One who talks when you wish them to listen.
                              --Ambrose Bierce
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From: sschilli@nmsu.edu (Sandy Schilling)
Subject: Re: First whine
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:03:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.133831.1@happy.colorado.edu>, etbeteille@happy.colorado.edu writes:
> 
> The idiots in Library Admin. have the AIR CONDITIONER on....
> when it's 30 degrees outside!!!  Whaaaaah!!!

Yes, Library people will do things like that; they're also really good
whiners. :)

--sandy
From: DCM115@psuvm.psu.edu (Doug Morack)
Newsgroups: alt.whine
Subject: Re: First whine
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:58:53 GMT
 <1993Jan5.162058.655@nmsu.edu> <C0F5w7.MME@cs.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University
Organization-][: The Calcium Cult
X-Subliminal-Message: oomogswoc rules!!!!

In article <C0F5w7.MME@cs.psu.edu>, ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward) says:
>
>Does it suck this new "crystal pepsi" stuff? (I haaaaaaaaaaate pepsi, by
>the way, for anyone who knows the psu/pepsi story (barf))

   It's a sad story....   Why did they haaaaave to take Coca-Cola awaaaaayyy?
I liiiikkkkeeee Coooooke!

>What the hell is this "crystal pepsi" stuff, anyway? And why does the
>machine upstairs say that I should be the first to try it?

   You WILL try it!  You WILL like it!  Well, so says P$U.

   Bring back Coca-Cola!

-Doug