From: sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Where should I put my pro-life money?
Summary: Planned Parenthood
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:25:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <nyikos.721350434@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
#In <Bx4BDC.ID0.2@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
#
#I have deleted all of Susan Garvin's pro-choice and pro-abortion
#organizations.  

Ignoring the fact that there were no "pro-abortion" organizations
listed, I'd like to thank Petey Honey for deleting them - it
underscores the difference between us.

[lots of text deleted below]

##American Life League
##P.O. Box 1350 
##Stafford, VA 22554
##(703)659-4171
#
##Opposes legal abortion, headed by Judie Brown.  
#
##(opposes all abortions, no exceptions, not even life
##of woman, claims 290,000 members)
#
#Sad if true.  I believe, BTW, that the blanket "opposes legal abortions"
#includes a life-of-the-mother exception in most cases, including all the
#ones in this post where it is not written "no exceptions".

Call them up and ask them, Petey Honey.  Read some of the history
of your own movement, and find out why Judie and Paul Brown left
the NRLC.  Read the RCC's position on exceptions to the abortion
ban (none, really, since the Church redefines abortion to allow
two exceptions) and then read the list of conditions which 
physicians consider life-threatening during pregnancy.  

I specified "no exceptions" quite purposefully, to distinguish
between the ALL and other groups.  It's not unheard of
for pro-forcers to hold this belief.
"I believe that if you have to choose between new life and
existing life, you should choose new life.  The person who 
has had an opportunity to live at least has been given that
gift by God and should make way for new life on earth."
-Paul Weyrich, founder of the Heritage Foundation

##American Rights Coalition
##P.O. Box 487
##Chattanooga, TN 37401
##(800)-634-2224
#
#A number Susan has admitted calling.  A number of times this number
#has had to be disconnected due to the big bills not being paid on 
#time.  Susan will be glad to know she has contributed to this situation.

If the charge for one phone call constitutes a "big bill," I'd
suggest that these people are in serious trouble.  I wonder why
they spend so much money advertising their 800 number if they
were financially devastated by my single call.  I wonder why they
send letters to people soliciting their calls if they can't afford
to receive them.  Maybe the nuisance suit business isn't very
profitable these days.

##opposes legal abortion,
#
#I'm not so sure of that.  Do you have documentation of this, Susan?

Okay, then, Petey Honey, your precious group supports something
that it characterizes as unsafe.  I apologize for giving them
undeserved credit for consistency.

## refers for malpractice suits against
##doctors who perform abortions
#
#Also refers for medical and emotional support for women who give their
#names over the phone.  I doubt if Susan gave her name when she called.

What a curious requirement for referrals.  I guess that women
who aren't willing to have their privacy invaded by the
likes of Charles Wysong aren't worthy of emotional and
medical support, huh?

(Petey Honey is obviously quite interested in knowing the details
of my call.  I think I'll let him continue to fantasize about it.)

Susan

Have you apolized to Adrienne yet, Petey, or are your balls
still missing in action?