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From: shores@hiatt.unx.sas.com (Veronica Shores)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: toning bands
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:21:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

In article <1992Jul22.225754.29373@ast.saic.com> levine@urho.ast.saic.com writes:
>In various aerobic classes I have used these thin and wide bands made of rubber,
>for toning of the arms and legs. (They're usually either dark purple or green).
>Does anyone know where I can buy these?
>I am only interested in the ones that you can tie the ends together, so that
>I can use them for both arms and legs.
>

One source is any physical therapy office.  They use them in various physical
therapy exercises. Check the yellow pages under Physical Therapists or Sports
Medicine.  

Also, lots of health clubs have them available for sale.

-- 

                     | "Well, I used to think that I had some duty;
Veronica L. Shores   |  Now I only want the booty"
(shores@unx.sas.com) |                      --  John Hiatt
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:29:41 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul29.131649.16631@PA.dec.com>, stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark) writes:
> 
> aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes...
> 
>>loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>> 
>>>Aside from that, do the regular situps, crunches, and leg lifts to
>>>build the abdominals and obliques.
>> 
>>I thought situps weren't good as a stomach-flattening exercise...
>>comments?
> > 
> 	For pure ab work, you could probably use just the crunches and
> 	the leg lifts, or modify the traditional sit-ups slightly to
> 	tilt the pelvis upward (curled toward you) and get more abdominal 
> 	concentration.   Medicine ball drills work wonders too, if you
> 	want a particularly tight stomach that can take an impact
> 	(martial artists, boxers, other contact sports).
> 
> 							kind regards,
> 
							todd


Todd, What are Medicine ball drills?  I have never heard of these.

--Rob
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From: dwarren@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (David Warren)
Subject: New Triathlon
Reply-To: uunet!csfb1!dwarren
Organization: First Boston Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:17:38 GMT

I think I've invented a new triathlon I'd like to try.  In New York's 
Central Park, one circuit around the park is around 10K.

  30K on bicycle
  20K on rollerblades
  10K running

I'd shoot (aggressively) for under three hours.

Anyone tried something similar?
Or interested in trying this?

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From: ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Questions About Low Carbo Diet
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:35:51 GMT
Organization: Good place for a disclaimer

In article <1992Jul24.055721.6414@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>The resulting molecules of acetyl-CoA are
>available to enter the Krebs cycle to generate energy, and in an
>ordinary diet with adequate carbohydrate, acetyl-CoA jumps into the
>the cycle, combining with oxaloacetate to form citrate, which
>is then further metabolized.
>
>When there is a shortage of dietary carbohydrate, oxaloacetate is
>diverted to produce essential glucose.  When fat is burned in the
>absence of adequate carbs, there is more acetyl-CoA than there is
>oxaloacetate.

Thanks, Steve.  There is at least one thing,however, that I don't grasp.
Most oxidative energy goes through the Krebs cycle.  For the same energy
out of the Krebs cycle, the amount of oxaloacetate needed would seem to
be constant.  The Krebs cycle doesn't know if the acetylCoA is from
fatty acid or glucose or lactate.

It appears (Lehninger, again) that in terms of ATP production, 1 glucose
yields 2 ATP outside the Krebs, and 6 in, while palmitol (representative
fatty acid) yields 33 outside and 96 in the Krebs cycle.  These are 75%
and 74.4% yields in the Krebs cycle, respectively.

These two numbers are so close that supplying the same amount of energy
either way would seem to require the same, pre-existing amount of
oxaloacetate.

If you will allow me to speculate?
If the Krebs cycle 'leaks', such that some fraction does not return to
oxaloacetate, then it needs to be synthesized in some other way.  
Does this require glucose as a progenitor?  What is the 'lifetime' of
these circle types?
-- 
And if your hand or foot offend you,         Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
  Cut it off, lad, and be whole;
But play the man, stand up and end you,
  When your sickness is your soul.           AE Housman
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: MUSCLE MEMORY!!!!!
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:36:16 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Jul21.121558.13339@tcom.stc.co.uk> laurie@tcom.stc.co.uk (Laurie Constantin) writes:

>	Although these figures are very impressive for your weight, Adam, I
>	seem to remember your squat poundages were pretty poor. I draw the
>	conclusion that this 162 pounds of bodyweight is distributed in favour
>	of benching (i.e. upper bosy weighs about 150 and legs about 12!!)

Very funny, Brat, but you're right.  I have weak legs because I don't work
them very much.  I'm starting to do that.  It's easy for me to gain mass and
strength on my legs if I work at it.

>	Laurie (average bench but good total).

What's your total?

							-Adam

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From: barry@saticoy.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman)
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Organization: UCLA Dept. of Math, UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 09:30:26 GMT

In article <17306@autodesk.COM> mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook) writes:

>weights for longer. You might try stacking it with a product called
>E.P.H. 833. If you're a light sleeper, you might find the Dymeta-

Is there any noticable difference between EPH 833 and 
Dymetradine? I just ordered some Dym., and plan to alternate it
with caffeine. How does it compare to caffeine?
--
Barry Merriman
UCLA Dept. of Math
UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research
barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet)   barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail)
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Assumptions of Drug Use by Olympians or Anyone Else (Very Informative)
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:47:41 GMT
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Originator: stgprao@xing

In article <14749@umd5.umd.edu> silver@woodstock.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>This is actually something a couple of people brought to my attention.  After
>coming off of a bad shoulder injury that I had surgery for, I have made an
>amazing recovery.  My strength in many exercises has exceeded my best records,
>and I have been lifting for only 4 months with surgery being 6 months ago.
>A couple people have thought that I might be using steroids.  I'm only 21,
>and I haven't been lifting for a very long time, and I exceed most people
>my height and weight (5' 6 1/2", 161 pounds) in strength.

Perhaps you were subtly overtraining before the injury and an enforced, long
rest revitalized you.  Some sports specialists advocate taking a yearly
month's rest from a given activity.  I'd go crazy is forced to stop running
for more than a couple of days.
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Bike Nashbar
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:24:18 GMT

oops, sorry about that last posting, sent it to the wrong place
[blush]

jg
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From: c8908461@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Robert Lang)
Subject: Re: Sweating !!!!
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:18:13 GMT

teresas@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Teresa Simske) writes:

>I would agree with Doc O'Leary that profuse sweating may be a sign of a
>well-tuned body ... that has been my experience, as I've become fitter
>it takes less and less for me to break a sweat and I sweat all over.
>I've got a related question: Why does the sweating continue sometimes
>even after I've finished my workout and showered? (this happens to some
>of my friends at times too). Is is a sign that I'm not cooling down
>properly? How do I know how much to cool down?

I've done better sometimes !!! Sometimes when I spar (TaeKwonDo) for
a long period, I only sweat mildly....UNTIL I STOP !

I've done a 20-30minute non-stop sparring session, stopped and had
a little relax...noted how dry I am (since I'm usually soaked), and
when I go to start again in a few minutes....I'm dripping !!!

'tis a wierd thing....

Robert.

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From: laku@vipunen.hut.fi (Lauri H Eklin)
Subject: Re: Sweating!!
Originator: laku@vipunen.hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:29:35 GMT

	I've had some problems sending this one. I apologize if this is
	the second or third posting of this  article. So, let's
	try, once more! 
>I've seen in recent years have only a sauna (which I loathe), always with 
>a sign on it saying, "Don't pour water on the lava rocks!".  I prefer the

	Of course you loath it.
	This americanized version of the sauna is just like
	the "king" of beers -the US Budweiser. (Comparing to 
	the czechoslovakian original)
	In a real sauna the temp. is about 85 - 95 Celsius,
	you pour _lots_ of water on the rocks, you whack your-
	self with a bunch of branches from a birch-tree, then
	you take a shot of luke-warm "koskenkorva" or vodka,
	you go for a swim in the cool, blue lake (or a swimming
	pool) and then you take a beer. 
	And if you leave the alcohol away, it is even healthy.
	It's sort of a exercise for your "blood-distribution
	system" or whatever you might call it in english.
	I often go to sauna after a work-out and empirically I
	would say that you relax well in a dry sauna, lay there
	on the bench for about 15 min and then begin to pour some
	water on the stove again, thus steaming up the room.
	Then a cool shower or a swim and afterwards you'll feel
	like being in heaven. Then you can have a beer.

					Lauri






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From: Robert.Holton@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Robert Holton)
Subject: coming off a training program
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:05:34 GMT

A couple of weeks ago the rowing season here in Ireland finished, so I
came off my training program which was pretty intense - 3-4 hours a day.
The result of this was pretty drastic; I almost completely lost my
appetite and found it very hard to motivate myself to eat (I'd been eating
almost 4000 calories a day when in training) and found it very hard to
sleep - I was ending up staying awake to 7am before I was sleepy enough to
drop off. I got round the sleeping problem by staying awake till the
following night, but even then it took a while to get to sleep. After a
week of not training I couldn't stand it any more so now I scull for about
an hour a day and run ~3 miles a day which helps.

So, is this a typical reaction to stopping a heavy program? Anyone else
experienced a similar reaction? I'd be interested to hear anyone else's
experiences.
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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: side effects of carbonated beverage consumption?
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:15:20 GMT


In a previous article, sunny@skylinx.sa.com (Sunny Heck) says:

>I came from a country that didn't have sodas, they
>had carbonated drinks of their own, but not Cokes, Pepsis,
>and , iugh, Dr.Pepper |-)  It took me a while to get used 
>to the taste of the american sodas, they all tasted like
>shoe polish, mind you, i don't know what shoe polish tastes
>like, but if it were eatable, that's exactly what coke and
>pepsi would taste like.  After a few weeks i stopped noticing
>the SP taste though.  I read somewhere that people get addicted
>to things that don't taste good at first, case in point? 
>don't know how this relates to chocolate :)
>i am more concerned about the aluminum cans, containing these acidic,
>carbonated beverages.  seems that some of that aluminum is bound :) to end
>up in your system.

Hey, no problem.  Americans don't eat enough aluminum anyway.  :-)

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
From: zoon@cs.umd.edu (Sungzoon Cho)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGH
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:27:19 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <Jul.30.00.00.04.1992.17899@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>Has anyone else watched the Unified Team's super-heavyweight
>wrestler?  He's 6'3", 287, with almost *no* bodyfat!  The guy
>is a monster.  He claims to be natural, but one look at his
>face and it seems obvious that he's used human growth hormone
>(and probably every other steroid under the sun).

  I did not see him, but heard that he weighed 15 lb at birth !!
Can't believe it.  I like to see him. :-)

  Sungzoon Cho
From: jennie+@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Starting out -- how much is too much
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:23:47 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Well, I didn't see a FAQ on this group, I hope my question isn't way
out of line. Anyway, here goes.

I've got a significant (read 50+ lbs) amount of weight to lose, and I've
finally convinced myself that a decent exercise program is essential
to accomplish my goal. Becoming healthier and more fit in the process
is a nice goal too. Anyway, I'm lucky enough to own a NordicTrack, and
I want some advice on what sort of an exercise program I should be
trying to do. 

Keeping in mind that I am in pretty bad shape, here's what I've been
thinking about: I'd like to try and do 25 minutes a day, 5 to 7 days a
week. I did 25 minutes this morning (after weeks of doing almost
nothing). and other than my thighs being a bit sore this afternoon, I
feel great. I had both the arm and the leg resistance down pretty low,
basically the leg resistance was high enough so I didn't feel like the
skis were running away from me but that's it. 

So what I want to know is am I going to be overdoing it? I
remember reading somewhere that you have to give your body a chance to
recover after exercising, and so you should only work out every other
day or something. Is that true, or is this some great myth spread by
lazy people?

Thanks,

-- Jennie
From: nwillhit@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Nelson Willhite)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: olympic and powerlifting questions
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:46:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA



In article <horwath.711657386@geode11> you write:
>A few weekends ago, Wide World of Sports had the world olympic lifting
>championships taped last fall in Germany. Also, considering that
>the Olympics are coming up, I had some questions. Pardon my ignorance,
>but:
>
>1. Given the general popularity of weight training, how will
>   the USA team do in Olympic lifting?? On Wide World of Sports, the top 
>   contenders were Russian, German & Korean for the superheavyweight 
>   class - they didn't even cover our guy - he was something like 
>   10th. Is it just that powerlifting is more popular?

Hi, I'm new to this newsgroup.  Reply...

Olympic/International "Weightlifting" is not very popular in the US, 
though it is much more recognized internationally.  "Powerlifting" is much
preferred in the US, and there are international powerlifting meets - which,
by the way, the US usually dominates.  The US won the 1992 world championships
as published in "Powerlifting USA" magazine.  I wouldn't expect the US to
do any better in the Olympics.

As an amateur powerlifter, I might be biased, but I generally
find the weightlifting events to be TOO technique oriented.  Also, most US
kids get involved with weights by training for US sports, i.e. football,
wrestling, etc. and powerlifting events, squat and bench primarily, are
better for training for these sports.  Did you notice the chests on those
guys in international competition?  Pretty weak, huh?  They wouldn't make 
very good NFL linemen!
>
>2. What is the USA's international standing in powerlifting?

The BEST, as reported above.
>
>3. What is the status of getting powerlifting into the Olympics?

As I am told, it is planned for the 1996 games in Atlanta.  However, it
may just be a "demonstration" sport.
>
>Thanks for educating me.
>
>-George
>

Hope this helps.

Nelson
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:19:27 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Jul31.090554.3665@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>I was looking for this a few months ago in the state of Wa.   The 
>pharmacists all said they couldn't sell it due to state law.

That's true for Washington.  State laws supercede Federal law when they're
more restrictive.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: rommel@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Rommel Raj)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: love handles/K Cline
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:58:08 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii

In article <1992Jul29.160105.45231@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>I guess I should have said exercising and dieting alone will not get rid
>of love handles, which I still contend.

On what do you base this contention?  Daily aerobic exercise in the 
form of 15+ mile bike rides and a very low-fat diet was all it took
for me to lose my love handles.  Well, . . . , that and PATIENCE
over a period of ten months!
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Assumptions of Drug Use by Olympians or An
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:38:56 GMT

>From: redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz)
>
>b) Has anyone seen the Chinese swimmers Li Lin ans Yong Zhuang on TV.
>   What are your opinions as regards possible drug abuse based on their
>   physiques. Both are *big* for female swimmers and have deep voices.
>   There are arguments / discussions raging on rec.sport.olympics and
>   soc.culture.chinese.

actually, i thought the US female swimmers were kinda big! :-)
(not assuming they are on drugs, just stating an observation! :-)

Janice

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From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Subject: Re: Recommended low-fat main courses
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:05:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.154535.2193@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>
>	I've been analyzing my diet, and have come up with
>	the following list of my favorite low-fat main course
>	dishes.  If anyone has some other dishes to contribute, 
>	I'd be delighted.
>
>	1) Lentils and rice.  I posted my recipe a few weeks ago.

Or any other kind of beans and rice. I like to make my own chili, with red
beans, pinto beans, etc.. Make a lot at once and then freeze it in small
portions to reheat later.

>
>	2) Mung beans and rice.  You should be able to find uncooked
>	mung beans at Asian food stores.  They only cost about $0.79
>	per pound.  They're easy to cook, since they only need some
>	boiling and a little garlic.  It may take a while to get used
>	to them though, if you're non-Asian.  (Incidentally, the
>	beans and rice combination provides a complete protein mix.)
>
>	3) Low-fat (or non-fat) cottage cheese and fruit.  No
>	cooking necessary!

One of my favorites also...
>
>	4) Tofu burgers.  You can find tofu burger mix at the 
>	supermarket.  If you buy your tofu in bulk (e.g. at a co-op)
>	this can be rather inexpensive.  In my opinion, these don't
>	taste bad at all, especially with a dash of soy sauce.  Also,
>	I recently tried making a patty out of 50% tofu burger and 
>	50% ground turkey.  Since the tofu tends to absorb the flavor
>	of whatever it's cooked with, this came out rather well.  
>	Tofu protein is almost complete, but if you want to improve the
>	quality even more, try eating the burgers with other grain
>	products, esp. corn or rice.
>

I was going to get into tofu, until I started reading the nutritional
information. Seems that about 50% of the calories are from fat. Is this
true with all brands of tofu?

>
>	NOTE: None of the items I've listed above cost very much.  They
>certainly cost a lot less than most meats on the market.  What's more,
>they're nutritionally sound.
>
> 
>-- 
>Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU
>
>"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
> an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.


Luther