HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ben@media.mit.edu (Benjamin Kline Lowengard)
Newsgroups: alt.recovery
Subject: Re: Step Nine
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:25:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

In article <iscjcw-020992094018@ajax.ucop.edu> iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox) writes:
>In article <5pknb=n.dhawk@netcom.com>, dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
>wrote:
>> 
>> Step Nine:  Made direct amends to such people wherever possible except
>> when to do so would injure them or others.
>> 
>> Well, at least it's a straightforward step.  Nice word there:
>> 'direct.'  Personally I'd prefer 'indirect' amends for some of the
>> folks I've harmed.  Wouldn't it be ok if I were just real, real, real
>> good for the rest of my life instead of taking direct action today?
>> --
>> David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com

>
>I've had some interesting discussions (perhaps arguments is a better word)
>regarding the interpretation of 'direct'.  Face-to-Face is obviously the
>most direct you can be, but what if that's impossible? What if you can't
>afford to travel back to wherever the amends needs to be made? Can you make
>amends by letter? Telephone Call? I've used all of those methods, but I
>wonder if I didn't choose the easy way in some cases where I could have
>gone in person.
>Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu

This is interesting..does step 9 mean that my ex-girlfriend(who dumped me
in the midst of step 4(OA)) will actually try to make amends? I'm not
trying to be the angry young man here but I do resent the fact that I 
am completely without an explantion as to why she completely shut me out
of her life...and I offered support and breathing space. This was a sudden
and complete shutdown of a relationship...in this vein can anyone out there
talk to me about how your recovery has affected your relationships-for 
good or bad- and perhaps give some advice toward hanging in there, or 
letting go?

This has been a very informative discussion for me, since I know about the
steps, and how they can work for people yet I find it much more valuable
to digest the many viewpoints expressed in this forum. Keep it up and 
hang in there!

benj
From: tao@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Eric Yihching Tao)
Subject: Re: English as a foreign language
Newsgroups: la.general
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:07:54 GMT

I came to U.S. about 6 years ago, although my English commands are good enough
to get by school, but I had been searching for ways to improve,
2 ways I found most helpful, for accent reduction, there are class in CSUs and 
some community colleges, for really challenging activities, join the TOASTMASTERclubs, that really helps. You can reach them by calling their H.Q. 714-858-8255
and ask for your local chater.
From: wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Tornadoes ???
Date: 26 Aug 1992 18:42:59 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
pretty close to the pacific ocean (and these things happen to hawaii)

					Walt
Newsgroups: la.general
From: helfman@aero.org (Robert S. Helfman)
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:12:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.144406.882@venice.sedd.trw.com> gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore) writes:
>In article <2A9DEC6B.22617@ics.uci.edu> mludwig@ics.uci.edu (Michael Scott Ludwig) writes:
>>dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>>=In article <2A9C8F9F.14235@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
>>=> In article <l9ocp3INNj9m@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:
>>=
>>=> #How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
>>=
>That water is fairly cool because of the Humboldt Current out of the Gulf
>of Alaska.  Hurricanes need warm water to feed on.
>

The water is cool because the Coriolis effect causes the southbound current
to move to its right (west) and offshore. The icy water at the sea bottom
upwells at the coastline and that's what we experience. Actually, if you
go offshore a couple of hundred miles, the water isn't any colder than at
this latitude off of Portugal and Spain. It's interesting to note that
if you examine the isotherms of sea temperature on the west coast of North
America, there is an extreme low just south of San Francisco at
San Gregorio. You have to go almost to Juneau, Alaska, to find equally
cold water in summer. The sea-bottom water usually just a degree of above
freezing, so any upwelling has a severe effect.
From: akumar@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: SpicMacay:L. Subramaniam(violin):LEC-DEM:Sep23:FREE
Date: 2 Sep 1992 09:23:12 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


  Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music And Culture Amongst Youth
                                (SPIC-MACAY)

                                 presents

                   An evening (Lecture-Demonstration) with

			      Violin Virtuoso


                             Dr. L. SUBRAMANIAM


				accompanied
			    on the MRIDANGAM by
				  GANESH

                        Wednesday Sept. 23, 1992, 7:30 pm.
			
   		     Crystal Cove Auditorium, Student Center
			   University of California
				   Irvine


		**ALSO AT:
		 US International Univ., SAN DIEGO. Sept. 24th, 7:30 pm.
			  Call (619) 291 9377 for more Info.
		**

                        ADMISSION FREE AND OPEN TO ALL.
	     (First Come First Served, limited by hall capacity)

		For CARPOOL and other info, contact:

                           UC, Irvine       (714) 856-3589 (Sanjiv)
                           USC, Los Angeles (213) 745-2917 (Kartik)
                           UC, Los Angeles  (310) 312-1644 (Munira)
			   CSU, Fullerton   (714) 992-5875 (Subha)

                or e-mail: narayan@ics.uci.edu (sanjiv)
			   anantk@usc.edu (anant)

Lecture-Demonstration: 
---------------------
The artist explains the art form and its intricacies. 
Dr. Subramaniam will present the Violin as a Carnatic music instrument
and explain the subtleties of Indian music.

Directions and Parking:
----------------------

 405 south or 5 South
 exit Jamboree go right
 left at campus
 right at bridge (2nd light)
 left at Pereira (1st light) 
 enter parking garage on the left.
 Crystal Cove is in the Student Center opp from the garage,

 PARKING: $ 2 per car.
From: verzotti@priam.usc.edu (Bruno Verzotti)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Car Sale
Date: 25 Aug 1992 21:05:32 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: priam.usc.edu

Sell Renault Alliance 43,000 miles.
5-speed 4 doors
Power steering / Air Conditioning
AM/FM / Recent tune-up (july 1992)
New battery / new alternator / new spare tire
Low cons: 30 miles per gallon
Must sell because I leave the USA
$1,600
Please call (213) 463 3652 after 7 p.m (any time!) 
or send me an e-mail at : verzotti@priam.usc.edu


Newsgroups: la.general
From: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com (Larry Gilmore)
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Followup-To: la.general
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:44:06 GMT

In article <2A9DEC6B.22617@ics.uci.edu> mludwig@ics.uci.edu (Michael Scott Ludwig) writes:
>dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>=In article <2A9C8F9F.14235@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
>=> In article <l9ocp3INNj9m@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:
>=
>=> #How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
>=
>=Hurricanes move northeast. There ain't no ocean to the southwest.
>
>You must have your directions confused.  There's a lot of ocean to the
>southwest of the L.A. area.
>
>
That water is fairly cool because of the Humboldt Current out of the Gulf
of Alaska.  Hurricanes need warm water to feed on.

-- 
Larry A. Gilmore             Internet: gilmore@venice.sedd.trw.com
TRW SEDD, DH1/2849
P.O. Box 6213                Phone:    (310)764-3318
Carson, CA 90746             Fax:      (310)764-3946
Newsgroups: la.general
From: jenkins@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Steve Jenkins)
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:32:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.093256.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu> dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>In article <2A9C8F9F.14235@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
>> In article <l9ocp3INNj9m@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:
>
>> #How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
>> #pretty close to the pacific ocean (and these things happen to hawaii)
>
>> We get the occasional tornado.  One touched down here in Irvine a couple
>> of years ago.
>
>Tornados prefer flat terrain so they're understandably rare here.

Tornadoes typically form at the interface of warm, moist air (such as
low pressure regions creeping northward from the Gulf of Mexico) and
much cooler polar air masses moving rapidly south.  That's why the
highest frequency of tornadoes in the US occurs in the deep south and
the southern midwest.  The weather in Southern California is too boring
to make tornadoes very often.  :-)

>Hurricanes move northeast. There ain't no ocean to the southwest.
>They also like to spawn themselves off of warm water. Our ocean
>water flows south so its a bit on the chilly side.

Gee, according to my map, there's nothing *but* ocean to the
southwest.  I presume you've switched east and west.  Even so,
hurricanes only tend to the northwest.  A hurricane can move
any direction at all, depending on the local conditions (Andrew went
due west across southern Florida and actually moved back east into
Mississippi after landfall in Louisiana.)  Most of the difficulty of
hurricane prediction follows from their mercurial insistence on
changing direction.

Hurricanes gain their energy from sunlight and water heat.  Don's
right about the ocean temperature, and that's probably the biggest reason
Pacific hurricanes are somewhat rare off North America.

I grew up in Mississippi and have been closer to both hurricanes and
tornadoes than I liked on occasion.

-- 
Steve Jenkins      			jenkins@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
Caltech/Jet Propulsion Laboratory	(818) 306-6438
From: vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: Air Tickets - one way - Boston to Los Angeles
Date: 26 Aug 1992 08:43:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Boston to Los Angeles - One way

Travel on August 30th. - Non-stop flight. - date change $ 25.00 per ticket.

3 tickets available.

$ 100.00 each.

Respond by E-mail.

First reasonable offer accepted. (deal on all three)

<vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu>
Xref: sparky la.general:612 news.admin:7364 news.sysadmin:1249
From: geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning)
Newsgroups: la.general,news.admin,news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Seeking new news feed
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:39:23 GMT
Distribution: la
Organization: Interrupt Technology Corporation, Manhattan Beach, CA

In article <1992Aug31.064851.17132@ITcorp.com> I write:

> I will shortly be moving to the San Fernando Valley, and am looking
> for a new news feed there.
> ...
> If you are able to provide me with a feed, please e-mail
> geoff@ITcorp.com.  Thanks in advance.

I neglected to mention that I do all the dialing, so there would be no
extra phone charges to the feeding site even if it weren't a local
call.
-- 
	Geoff Kuenning   geoff@ITcorp.com   uunet!desint!geoff
From: hho@usc.edu (*** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: la.general,usc.general
Subject: ForSale: Borland C++ & Application Framework
Date: 27 Aug 1992 13:44:43 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


I ordered the wrong C++, just want the turbo C++ only, this thing
is too much for me. Everything is new, I must resell it fast or
my boss kill me :-)) I'll consider trade for 486/33 motherboard :-)
Please correct me if my price is too high.

	Borland C++ & Application Frameworks 3.0 (NEW)
	Support WINDOWS....
		Retail for $749
		Cheapest I can find is $599 mail order 
				       $625 at egghead
		I'll throw in
			Bonus   AMISH System Utilities disk (New)
			Bonus	Jetfighter game (New)

	All this for   $500 including shipping
		       $475 if pickup

	In original box, shipped by UPS over 10lbs 

	Borland C++ & AF	10 high density 3.5 diskettes

	Turbo Assembler 3.0 - Quick Reference Guide
	Borland C++ 3.0 - Library Reference
	Borland C++ 3.0 - User's Guide
	Borland C++ 3.0 - Tools & Utilities Guide
	Turbo Debugger 3.0 - User's Guide
	Turbo Profiler 2.0 - User's Guide
	Turbo Assembler 3.0 - User's Guide
	Borland C++ 3.0 - Programmer's Guide
	Resource Workshop
	Turbo Vision for C++
	Objectwindows for C++

Please contact
Hung P. Ho
hho@usc.edu or leave message at USC Dental School, 213-740-1591



-- 
*******************************************************************************
Hung P. Ho, Jr. (John)     USC DENTISTRY    PH.SYSTEMS          CCCOGP  
                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com
Newsgroups: la.general
From: helfman@aero.org (Robert S. Helfman)
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:02:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.093256.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu> dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>In article <2A9C8F9F.14235@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
>> In article <l9ocp3INNj9m@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:
>
>> #How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
>> #pretty close to the pacific ocean (and these things happen to hawaii)
>
>> We get the occasional tornado.  One touched down here in Irvine a couple
>> of years ago.
>
>Tornados prefer flat terrain so they're understandably rare here.
>
It doesn't have much to do with terrain - it's mostly about lapse-rate.
We don't get the radical temperature drop-vs-altitude rates that they
get in the midwest, particularly when a cold front overrides a warm front,
resulting in very moist warm air at the surface with cold dry air above that.
That produces extremely strong vertical motion, and that, coupled with 
the strong wind shear associated with the frontal boundary produces
tornadoes.

>Hurricanes move northeast. There ain't no ocean to the southwest.
>They also like to spawn themselves off of warm water. Our ocean
>water flows south so its a bit on the chilly side.

Huh? If that isn't an ocean to the southwest of us, just what is it?

Hurricanes in the Atlantic generally move from the tropics northWEST into
the Florida or Gulf Coast area, sometimes up the Eastern seaboard.

We get the remnants of hurricanes from the west coast of Mexico. In fact,
the very humid weather we had a week or so back was from a series of
Baja hurricanes which started on Mexico's west coast and moved northwest
toward Hawaii. We got the moisture off their northeast edges. Just look at
the satellite maps in the L.A. Times Metro section. For a couple of weeks,
there was almost always a hurricane visible. There have been so many
this season that they're past the letter J (Javier), whereas the east coast
season has just begun (Andrew). You are right about the offshore
water here being quite cold for this latitude. That's why the smaller
hurricanes poop out before they get to L.A. and generally just produce
muggy weather and some thunderstorms. If a storm gets large while still
in tropical waters, it will have enough 'umphh' to be serious even after
it winds down in our colder water. We have had some incredible  bouts of
hurricane weather in the past - in the summer of 1983 we had weeks of
muggy weather, endless rain, and squirrely winds. A whole series of Baja
hurricanes made their appearance that year.

(R.S. Helfman - no expert, but a B.A. in Meteorology from UCLA, '62)

Newsgroups: la.general
From: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:57:38 PDT

In article <2A9DEC6B.22617@ics.uci.edu>, mludwig@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Michael Scott Ludwig) writes:
> dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
> =Hurricanes move northeast. There ain't no ocean to the southwest.
 
> You must have your directions confused.  There's a lot of ocean to the
> southwest of the L.A. area.

I grew up in Chicago. West is the direction away from the water ;-)


-dh
Newsgroups: la.general
From: brihut@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Brian Hutchings)
Subject: Re: Yet Another Earthquake
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/453-8726 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:55:34 GMT

*your* opinion, based upon a triangulation
with your two feet, legs widespread?...
talk about low-tech!
From: mludwig@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Michael Scott Ludwig)
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Newsgroups: la.general
Reply-To: mludwig@ics.uci.edu (Michael Scott Ludwig)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:05:47 GMT

dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
=In article <2A9C8F9F.14235@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
=> In article <l9ocp3INNj9m@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:
=
=> #How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
=> #pretty close to the pacific ocean (and these things happen to hawaii)
=
=> We get the occasional tornado.  One touched down here in Irvine a couple
=> of years ago.

Just to add another data point to exceptions that prove the rule, I'll
mention that I've read in a book that a hurricane hit the San Diego area in
1974 (I think that was the year).  It caused a good amount of damage (sorry
about the oxymoron).

=Hurricanes move northeast. There ain't no ocean to the southwest.

You must have your directions confused.  There's a lot of ocean to the
southwest of the L.A. area.


"Planet Bog - pools of toxic chemicals | Michael Ludwig
bubble under a choking atmosphere      |
of poisonous gases.  But aside from    | mludwig@bonnie.ics.uci.edu
that, it's not much like Earth."       |
        - Calvin (of Calvin & Hobbes)  | UCI and I don't agree on anything.
--
Michael S. Ludwig
From: bayliss@skat.usc.edu (T.Drew Bayliss)
Newsgroups: la.general
Subject: For sale: Fish Tank
Date: 3 Sep 1992 11:01:40 -0700
Organization: University Computing Services--U.S.C.
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


 I have a 50 gallon fish tank for sale. I bought it 2 years ago, filled it with
water and never used it. Holds water fine, has a BUNCH of gravel that I will
throw in with it and two lights and a pump, no guarentee on them, I never used
them. Actually, it's kinda big.. It may be a 75 gallon.  There is about 50 lbs
of gravel.  I will transport. 

Asking $100. Make an offer.

drew
-- 
2Lt. T. Drew  Bayliss     UU UU     SSS CCCC University of Southern California
B.A. History. M.S.ED.      UU UU   SS    CC              UCS Remote Operations
The choice is very simple:  UU UU   SS    CC           UUCP: uunet!usc!bayliss
Life, Death, or Los Angeles. UUUUU SSS     CCCC     ARPA: bayliss@skat.usc.edu
Newsgroups: la.general
From: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:32:56 PDT

In article <2A9C8F9F.14235@orion.oac.uci.edu>, dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
> In article <l9ocp3INNj9m@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:

> #How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
> #pretty close to the pacific ocean (and these things happen to hawaii)

> We get the occasional tornado.  One touched down here in Irvine a couple
> of years ago.

Tornados prefer flat terrain so they're understandably rare here.

Hurricanes move northeast. There ain't no ocean to the southwest.
They also like to spawn themselves off of warm water. Our ocean
water flows south so its a bit on the chilly side.

There was a threat of a tidal wave in the late sixties (saw it on
Dragnet). Didn't come to much when it got here. Tsunamis are
generated by undersea earthquakes. We're just lucky about the
placement of the really nasty faults in the Pacific.

-dh
Xref: sparky la.general:605 sdnet.forsale:375
From: hho@usc.edu (*** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: la.general,usc.general,sdnet.forsale
Subject: Borland Framework 3.1 (Lowered Price)
Date: 29 Aug 1992 08:21:25 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

***************************************
    SALE: $$ $325 + shipping
***************************************

After reading the net, and a few people pointed me out, I have lowered
the price :-) Oh, it is version 3.1, unopened.
................................................................................
I ordered the wrong C++, just want the turbo C++ only, this thing
is too much for me. Everything is new, I must resell it fast or
my boss kill me :-)) I'll consider trade for 486/33 motherboard :-)
Please correct me if my price is too high.

	Borland C++ & Application Frameworks 3.1 (NEW)
	Support WINDOWS....
		Retail for $799
		Cheapest I can find is $599 mail order 
				       $625 at egghead

	All this for   $500 including shipping
		       $475 if pickup

	In original box, shipped by UPS over 10lbs 

	Borland C++ & AF	10 high density 3.5 diskettes

	Turbo Assembler - Quick Reference Guide
	Borland C++ 3.1 - Library Reference
	Borland C++ 3.1 - User's Guide
	Borland C++ 3.1 - Tools & Utilities Guide
	Turbo Debugger - User's Guide
	Turbo Profiler - User's Guide
	Turbo Assembler 3.1 - User's Guide
	Borland C++ 3.1 - Programmer's Guide
	Resource Workshop
	Turbo Vision for C++
	Objectwindows for C++

Please contact
Hung P. Ho
hho@usc.edu or leave message at USC Dental School, 213-740-1591



-- 
*******************************************************************************
Hung P. Ho, Jr. (John)     USC DENTISTRY    PH.SYSTEMS          CCCOGP  
                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com
Newsgroups: la.general
From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Subject: Re: Tornadoes ???
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:30:54 GMT

In article <2A9C8F9F.14235@orion.oac.uci.edu> dkrause@hydra.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause) writes:
>In article <l9ocp3INNj9m@aludra.usc.edu> wdao@aludra.usc.edu (Walter Dao) writes:
>#
>#How come no tornado/hurricane/tidal wave ever hits the L.A. area ? It is
>#pretty close to the pacific ocean (and these things happen to hawaii)
>
>We get the occasional tornado.  One touched down here in Irvine a couple
>of years ago.

Who needs hurricanes?  We get earthquakes, floods, brushfires, landslides,
riots, Satanic serial killers...

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
reid@ttidca.tti.com  (that's MISTER reid@ttidca.tti.com to you!)
{philabs,psivax,pyramid,quad1,rdlvax,retix,rutgers}!ttidca!reid
Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
From: bohner@alnitak.usc.edu (Wolfgang Bohner)
Newsgroups: la.general,usc.general
Subject: Re: ForSale: Borland C++ & Application Framework
Date: 27 Aug 1992 14:24:04 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: la
NNTP-Posting-Host: alnitak.usc.edu

In article <l9qflrINNi23@aludra.usc.edu> hho@usc.edu (*** N.T.K.C.D. ***) writes:
>
>I ordered the wrong C++, just want the turbo C++ only, this thing
>is too much for me. Everything is new, I must resell it fast or
 ........
>	Borland C++ & Application Frameworks 3.0 (NEW)
>	Support WINDOWS....
>		Retail for $749
>		Cheapest I can find is $599 mail order 
>				       $625 at egghead
........

You can buy it for $199  !!!!!!!!!!!

I bought Turbo C++ for $69.

I would trade you the two packages!!


Wolfgang.





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