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From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Subject: [Olympics] Medals Standings (thru 9 events at July 26, 14:00 EST)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 16:32:32 -0500

The latest China-related Olympics News can be found in CND-Global during 
the Barcelona Summer Olympics.

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From:  CND Sources
Original Source: Dow Jones News:    07/26 (as of 14:00 EST)
Subject: We know who got the gold.  Here's the three silvers for China

        (THROUGH NINE EVENTS)

COUNTRY       GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL

China            1      3      0     4  (See below for details)
United States    1      1      1     3
Unified Team     2      0      0     2
Hungary          1      1      0     2
Bulgaria         1      1      0     2
Australia        1      0      1     2
Germany          1      0      1     2
Sweden           0      1      1     2
France           0      1      1     2
South Korea      1      0      0     1
Italy            0      1      0     1
Independent Team (Yugoslavia)
                 0      0      1     1
Finland          0      0      1     1
Netherlands      0      0      1     1
Romania          0      0      1     1


   - Zhuang Yong won a gold in 100m women's 
free-style swim.  She broke Olympics 
Record but not World Record.

   - Krisztna Egerszegy of Hungary won
the gold medal in the women's 400-meter
individual medley swimming competition.

    Lin Li of China won the silver
medal and Summer Sanders of the U.S.
won the bronze medal.

    - The honor of the first gold medal
of the Games went to Yeo Kab-Soon South
Korea, who won the gold medal in the
women's air-rifle competition.

    - Konstantin Loukachik of the
Unified team won the gold medal in the
men's free-pistol competition.

    Wang Yifu of China won the silver
medal and Ragnar Skanaker of Sweden won
the bronze medal.

    - Ivan Ivanov of Bulgaria won the
gold medal in the flyweight (52kg)
weightlifting competition.

    - Lin Qisheng of China won the silver
medal and Trian Ciharean of Romania won
the bronze medal.

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Forwarded to SCC by Bo Xiong in Chicago
From: lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: some thoughts
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:26:29 GMT

yangze@acf3.NYU.EDU wrote:
/* acf3:soc.culture.china / cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung) / 12:49 pm  Jul 30, 1992 */
Nationalism only divides people.  Nationalism makes war, not love.
Have a little less nationalism.  Be a Universal Man.

Good advice. Could you please offer more information how to apply?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ylq@lems24lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang won Gold Medal
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:48:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.185037.28224@Princeton.EDU>, afriend@dew.Princeton.EDU (A. Friend) writes:
|> >>But U.S. swimmers and coaches are candid with their suspicions. Results
|> >>at the Asian Games had shown a drastic drop in times from two years ago.
|> >>Sunday night Zhuang, ranked fourth in the world with a time of 55.27,
|> >>quickened to 54.64. Lin went from 4:47.15 to 4:36.73 within four months.
|> >>
|> >>"There's no proof; they've never been caught." said Haislett, who finished
|> >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
							***********
She herself is also marcho-type woman. 
|> >>fourth in the 100-meter freestyle with a time of 55.17. "There's been
|> >>speculation and rumors, but until one is caught, there's nothing you can do
|> >>about it."
|> > 
|> 
|> Since both Zhuang and Lin are only about 15 years old, it is possible that
|> they still look boyish. On the other hand, the platform diving bronze holder
|> is already 29 years old and indeed looks strange.
|> 
|>
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From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 79 war against Vietnam (Re: No Dogs or Chinese)
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:14:27 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul23.192236.1@cc.utah.edu> danjiong@cc.utah.edu writes:
>The ultimate goals of 79's invasion, from my understanding, were 
>
>     1). to punish Vietnam's betrayal behavior ( sided with Russian) 
>
>     2). to prevent the falling of Pol Pot's regime, the bloodiest
...
>     Therefore, That was a war about the Face. 
....
>     Did the action accomplish its goal ? I doubted. The war did not
.....

I thought the war was to establish Deng Xiaoping himself as the
leader of China and to get rid of Great Leader Chairman Hua. They
did accomplished that goal, for their credit. 

But the people of Vietman and China were both suffered, specially
those deaded ones.
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Time: China has only 60 swimming pools
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:47:56 GMT
Reply-To: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Organization: University of Melbourne

In article <1992Jul27.225602.29323@serval.net.wsu.edu>, hlu@phys1.physics.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul27.024420.17671@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
|> |> I read this from World Journal: Why Chines won the Champaign Math
|> |> Olympic? because they spent 365 days a year in math. Well for a loser,
|> |> there is always something to say.
|> |> 
|> |> Tingli Pan
|> 
|> If it was true (very likely), I would feel sorry for those kids. They would
|> have missed one of the best time of their lives.


Doing maths 365 days could be fun for some ....

Lin Can
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: SICHAO@bnr.ca (Sichao  Wang, S.)
Subject: Re: Forwarding - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Me
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:07:00 GMT

In message <9207301545.AA22049@janus.ctr.columbia.edu> Yuan Jiang writes:
>Yes, you can use steroid to acquire the strong muscle which you cannot get
>get from regular excercise.

Groudless speculation or suspicions does NOT justify anything. Otherwise, show
the evidence or proof to the public.

Many swimmers intentionally do the trainings trying to build their bodies
strong enough to meet the chanllenge, so are these Chinese women swimmers.
Body-building has become so popular in China that even ordinary man and women
are very eager and jealous to have a muscular body. Bet you have seen women
body-building  competitions, can you suspect that those women are steroid users
because they look very muscular and having low tone voice?


>Tell me what's your experience and commonsense with swimming.

Since they are JUST commonsense, i guess that person like you who can initiate
such kind of "drug abuse" imagination about Chinese women swimmers does not
need them.

>I'd rather see China to be a healthy one, instead of a drug pumped one.

I agree with you in the first part.


Take care,

Sichao Wang

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:20676 soc.culture.hongkong:9106
From: Lei@bnos.csd.bldrdoc.gov
Subject: Re: Forward - Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang Won Gold Medal
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:38:06 GMT

>>We have to reallize that most Chinese athlets are backed by a
>>Sports Machine that runs like a military machine, and most
>>American athletes are on their own and have a life out of the
>>sports they play.

>I doubt there are a lot of geniuses in this world. Many US players
>were also told being trained at very young age. If you couldn't

This morning NBC showed an interview with Kim Zmeskal's parents.
The mother said something like this, "It's very difficult for a child.
She is ready to live a normal life. ...." That means Kim Zmeskal doesn't
have a normal life either. She is a "15 years old child without childhood".
The US Sports Machine made her a world champion. So, what's wrong for
Fu Mingxia to become an athelet when she is very young?

>endure the pain of the arduous efforts, the champion would be
>someone else. This is the rule. Chinese are born in a much tougher
>environment than average Americans, which explains a lot.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Olympic coverage in China.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:26:24 GMT

   This is based on an old man's memory. No offense if something
is wrong, please. I know that a lot of you are homesick, and many
more of you love China more than me. :-(

   We had more chances to watch the champions' performances in 
China, as well as their faces. The latter is due to the fact that
some medal ceremonies were shown.

   We had more chances to watch No.2 to No.26 athelets here, since 
this coverred a much wider range of the people. We have no interest
in watching those champions from time to time, who cares what they 
look like anyway? This is America, everybody should get the chance,
even in the coverage. :-]

   To be serious, the TV coverage should be to the American people's
favor, yet the fact is ... ( can't finish here, Sigh)
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: God knows ! Re: Racial Problem?
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:56:56 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <Bs7GpG.B7F@> shay@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (George Shay) writes:
>
>>I guess what jialin means is that western women are reluctant to spend time on
>>housework. :-)
>
>I hate housework too, but I do not think I am lazy. I know some Chinese
>women, like my sister, are never happy with the housework. I can not say
>they are lazy. It is said 'Gi Shuo Wu Yu, Wu Shi Yu Ren'(Do not push the
>others do what you don't want to do). There is a big difference between
>Chinese women and western women, or American women. But please do not use
>double standards, do not lable *all* American women as 'Lazy'. It is just
>not fair.

I know this is going to happen :-) Yes, I will not generalize any women
being lazy. But again, I did not make the statement that American women 
are lazy; someone else did it. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com
Subject: Re: Recent research
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:28:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.211632.2534@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>In article <199207190221.AA02979@thames.bu.edu> lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU writes:
>>XiaoFei Wang wrote:
>>>Recent research indicates that people who post on scc have great
>><difficulty in getting a life.
>                          ^^^^^ wife
>
>Because many wives don't want their husbands to practise polygamy.
>
>>What is that research? Reference please. BTW, is "l" a typo of "w"?
>
>

Get a life -- get real, be serious. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: No Dogs or Chineses
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:04:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.172416.6534@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.025917.18477@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.234050.5549@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>>>In article <1992Jul22.175944.1@tamar.compserv.utas.edu.au> p_mahnken@tamar.compserv.utas.edu.au writes:
>>
>>......
>>
>>This is rarely a reason for China to go to the war with neighbors. To the
>>gorvenment, Chinese life is the cheapest commodity.
> **************************************************
>Unfound argument! Compare to which government?
>Poor and weak nation may demand their people suffer more the have 
>diginity!

Here I mean the gorvenmetn is Chinese gorvenment from 1949 to 1979. The
events in that period can prove that mying isn't an unfound augument.
>>
>>The war didn't save Pol Pat's regime. (This is good) And the war didn't
>>bring any benefit to China but left thousent people died. The good
>It was part of Cold War. Right before the clash Deng visited U.S.
>Soviet fear China and U.S. had secret agreement on the matter!
>Chinese troops massed toward Sino-Soviet border!
>It was not to help Pol Pat. It was to wake up vietname from living in a
>fantasy of "World Stronngest Millitary" whith Soviet support. It was to stop
>Abusing Chinese in Vietname. It was to stop Vietname shelling Chinese towns
>near the border(I saw it on filmes). Should the War be fought or not? Should
>there be a better way to fight it(example through sea to land off shore rather
>than attach those fortified mountains). Or should we retreat from those 
>mountains region are all other issues.

Hmm, you are not the only one who read People's Daily. But never realize
that you are such a loyal reader.

Tingli Pan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang)
Subject: Re: Pictures of Zhuang Yong and Fu Mingxia
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:16:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: janus.ctr.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul31.044054.22989@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>
>It is foolish to argue whether a girl should smile or not in a
>competition. If I want to see it, I could have gone to Las Vegas to watch

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jhuang@Chaos.mcs.kent.edu (Jing Huang)
Subject: Re: Chinese Female & Male Athletes in Olympics
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:24:03 GMT

In article <199207301508.AA05430@thames.bu.edu> lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU writes:
>chiaki10@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Kwan Y Mok) wrote:
>>Chinese female athletes either far outperform male on an international level or
><are more consistent if either sex are both strong on the sport (like table
>
>Please note Chinese females do not directly competewith Chinese males. In
>Olympics, Chinese females directly compete with foreign females, Chinese
>males directly compete foreign males. The comparison between Chinese males
>and females then is indeirect and relative.
>
>>Given that the gap does exist between Westerners and Chinese men in physiques,
><does anyone has any suggestion, good ideas on how China can shorten this gap?
><How can China improve on male sports that require bulk and strength?
>

	I have a feeling that Chinese males, on the average (meaning there are
exceptions), are not strong-willed enough, at least compared to the Japanese
or Koreans, and compared to our Chinese females.

	To compensate for the physical disadvantage (if there is any at all!),
they simply have to train harder and employ better training methods (I think
the Chinese women's volleyball and swimming progresses were largely due to
training methods instead of physical disadvantages).

	I have also heard about the theory that Chinese (perhaps all socialist)
females have much higher social status relative to the males than in the west,
or Japan, or South Korea. I wonder if there is any correlation.

>Keep taking more protein for at least 5 generations.

	Instead, I tend to think it will take less than 20 years for the
Chinese males to shine in the international sports arena. I could be easily
wrong though.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:21709 rec.sport.olympics:2088
From: jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Tim Jennings)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Proud and Angry
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:01:25 GMT
Organization: SPS


|> |>        At least Chinese team did not carry HIV to Olympia, U.S.'s did.
|> |>        U.S.'s gym team is as young as China's Diving Team. NBC were trying to 
|> |>   portraying China's atheletes the way you describe! That is Americans'
|> |>    sour_grape mentality! 
|> 
|> I can't say that I find it surprising that country which practically bans
|> sexuality and whose citizens have hardly any contact with the outside world
|> isn't bringing AIDs to the olympics.


Stop right here.  There is absolutely no proof that HIV causes AIDS.  The HIV
terror campaign is just another attempt by the US medical profession to be first.
In truth, the virus for AIDS HAS NOT been identified.  For all we know HIV could 
be as harmless as the flu virus. Anybody ever stop to think how much research money
is flooding into labs because the HIV has been identified and researches can point
to something and say 'look we've cornered it'. The French researchers who actually
first found the HIV virus sent it to the US researcher for confirmation and he
took it as his own discovery without verifying it.  To date the French research
team has not acknowledged that HIV is a link to AIDS.
----------------------
Timothy J. Jennings 			"I Yam What I Yam."
Motorola ASIC Division			--Popeye
email: jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com
From: Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: About Jie4 Zhong3
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:45:00 GMT


          Steve writes:
          > (to produce big bulk and limbs) How about jie4 zhong3?
          > da4 gan4 kuai4 shang4 ...

          "Da4 gan4 kuai4 shang4?!"

          I guess next you guys are going to propose cross-bred
          between human and animals.  For a few medals Chinese
          should not be so Bu4 ze2 shou3 duan4!

          I'd say adoptation of African kids is more feasible for
          they currently don't have much to eat.

          Recently we have had enough thoughts that are typical tan1
          da4 qiu2 yang2.  We should rather rely on Chinese' own
          reproduction ability, so-called zi4 li4 "geng1 sheng1."

          In the worst case, we can turn to genetic engineering.   
          Another thing is that China has many wu3 xue2 ming2 jia1.
          We should have them teach basketball players, as long
          as you know qing1 gong1, no Magic Johnson is going to be a
          problem.  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: rsanders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (RRobert M Sanders)
Subject: Re: Question for Shi Chunde
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:05:36 GMT

>>the moral, intellectual and ecoconomic superiority of China over every other 
>>country in the world, regardless of the issue at hand:
>
>Let me answer the questions for Shi Chunde
>
>>
>>1.  What has kept you from returning to China?
>
>He never said he would not return to China. Qian XieSheng, the
>father of Chinese rockets Long March series, stayed in USA for
>more than 20 years and was a professor in MIT before he returned 
>to China. On the time he left USA, the Secretary of State said 
>he was worth a division of army. Prof Qian has proven that he 
>is worth more than it.
>
>How much Shi Chunde will be worth when he returns to China?
>I guess more than 1 division of army.
>
>>
>>2.  What possible attraction does the US have for you?
>
>His university needs him and employed him. This is the reason
>for him to stay.
>
>>
>>Please do not get the impression that I am asking you to leave.  
>
>Well, maybe, you are afraid of another division of army will
>leave USA and join China.
>
>>
>>Robert Sanders
>
>J Chen
>Department of Chemistry
>University of Michigan


I am sorry that you don't realize that I am merely asking a personal question 
of Shi Chunde.  Please don't speak for other people.  It seems that s/he must 
be terribly unhappy here.  I don't see why the discussion must deteriorate into
virulent harangues about your rocket scientists being brighter and more 
talanted than my rocket scientists.  BTW, if you want to get anything 
meaningful from your stay here other than the Ph.D. degree try to stop dividing
the world into an us/them dichotomy.  You might be surprised to discover that 
Chinese and "foreigners" (be they Americans, Indians, Japanese, Kenyans, 
Egyptians, etc.) share a heck of a lot in common.  We all share the same 
emotions, have the same goals, the same dreams, and the same fears.

I'm not interested in turning this posting into a public forum for flame 
fighting.  If you feel compelled to answer this, feel free to contact me 
directly at my e-mail address.

Robert Sanders