From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:26:37 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
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In article <1845@celia.UUCP> celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.000122.20127@pmafire.inel.gov> cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook) writes:
>
>->"Gee, I really sympathize with you, Mr. Slave, but the majority
>->says you aren't really a person, and I've got to go along with it for the
>->sake of the country.  You understand don't you?"
>
> The slaves may be free because the majority decided they should be. The 
>slavery issue may have just been one of the first divisive issues used by
>socialists. The reason slaves were kept was that the government decided
>not to give them rights. Maybe a vote would have saved thousands of lives.

Are you serious?  Do you *really* think a vote could have prevented the
Civil War?  If thousands of people were willing to die over the issue,
what on earth makes you think they'd have listened to a vote?
>
>->Of course :-)  Seriously, all I'm saying is that a system of majority rule
>->is a Bad Thing.  I've tried to supply reasons why.  I have yet to see you
>->deny that any of these possible scenarios could come to pass.  Usually,
>->you wave your arms and toss out the Big Government boogyman.  BTW, I still
>->haven't heard your answer to the question, "would you inject the poison?".
>->I made a guess as to your answer.  Is it the right one?
>
> The only reasons you have provided is that the minority might not agree
>with the majority. I counter this by giving examples on how if we let the

BINGO!  Give the man a prize.  I don't know how else to say it, Steve. 
Just because the majority thinks something is right does not guarantee
that it's right.  You, however, seem to think so.  People like you are
very dangerous.  You're perfectly willing to give up your rights "on just
this issue", and wonder what happened when the rest of their rights vanish.

Look.  The basic purpose of the constitution is to guarantee the rights 
of EVERYONE, not just the majority.  If you can't grasp that fundamental
concept, it's hopeless for you.

>government try to protect minority rights than which minorities will they
>help and which minorities will they hurt. Ie - they help the mother who
>wants abortion rights but kill the unborn child by not giving them rights.

So, your position is that we shouldn't bother protecting minority rights?

For someone who wanted to stay away from the abortion issue, you sure
bring it up a lot.  Of course, if we DID vote on it, and abortion were
deemed legal up to the time of birth, you'd change your principles and
it'd be ok, right?

>I have stated that only a few issues need to be decided this way. 
> The two that come to mind are    Establishment of Human Rights
>                            and   Drug Legalization.

I thought you weren't the one deciding which issues were worthy of a vote.
Sure sounds like you've decided what they are to me.  Oh - excuse me. 
These are the issues on which Steve is willing to abandon his principles
simply because the majority says he should.  My mistake.

> These two issues are being used by the socialists to keep us small govern-
>ment types opposing each other. 
>
>->Sigh. Who decides what is divisive?
>
> The people ! 

I see (I'm lying).  The people decide that the people should vote on this
issue or that one.  I give up.

>
>->And if you don't like it, leave, eh?
>
> Or join the individualist revolution against the socialist.

You're no individualist.  Not if you're willing to let the majority of
people tell you what's right, simply because they're the majority.  You're
just one more sheep being led to the slaughterhouse.
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