From: PHARABOD@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR
Subject: Aurora
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:00:50 GMT

Dean Adams writes (Fri, 11 Dec 92 13:49:51 GMT):

>>The first sightings (1990-1991) were of a "primarily delta-shaped"
>>aircraft. (J. Pharabod)

>Not really...  The first reported Aurora design ideas were of a smaller
>"almond" shaped sort of vehicle, also called the "pulser".  The more
>recent reports seem to be of something much larger. (D. Adams)

I was speaking only of the sightings reported in the August 24, 1992,
AW&ST issue. I was not speaking of previous articles, such as:

"Possible 'Black' Aircraft Seen Flying In Formation With F-117s, KC-135s"
AW&ST, March 9, 1992 (p. 66)

"New Evidence Bolsters Reports of Secret, High-Speed Aircraft", AW&ST,
May 11, 1992 (p. 62)

>>Only in the two last sightings (1992) were reported a "narrow
>>fuselage" and/or a "forward wing or canard". Maybe these two last
>>sightings can be discarded

>WHAT??  The previous reports were based on "design concepts",
>these are much more direct reports.  There is no logical reason
>for simply "discarding" such information.

I still think that the sightings reported in this August 24 issue
are not better than UFO sightings:

1. 1990 sightings: occurred during night or late evening (visibility?),
   number of witnesses not reported, apparently no inquiry about the
   witnesses (tired? drunk? ill?)
2. April 1991 sighting: daytime, but the craft was said "dwarfing an
   F-16 chasing it". This casts a doubt on this sighting: is it usual
   that US military planes chase US secret aircrafts? (well, maybe it
   was an exercise). Same questions about the witnesses.
3. May 10, 1992: daytime over Atlanta suburbs, but only one witness in
   a populated area. Why other people did not see or report anything?
4. July 12, 1992: during night, only one witness (a motorist), no
   inquiry reported about this witness.
5. No photos, no video films.

>>3). In its December 1991 issue, Popular Mechanics (article "America's
>>New Secret Aircraft") reports, near Edwards AFB, a big triangular object
>>which, like the Belgian object, can hover silently horizontally and
>>vertically...

>99% of that article consisted of repeating the previous AW&ST report.
>Then they threw in that one extra report.  It did not sound like it
>was very highly substantiated...

It was no more substantiated than the above criticized sightings.
However, since the object was hovering or flying at very low speed,
the sightings lasted for more than a few seconds, which was probably
not the case for the AW&ST sightings:
"[...] The craft moved so slowly one observer said he could jog along
with it.[...] Observers who followed the craft long enough detailed
unlikely maneuvers in which the vehicle stopped, rotated in place and
hovered vertically, presenting a thin trailing edge to the ground."

>>c) Popular Mechanics and AW&ST are no more serious than UFO reviews.

>Strike Three. :->   Where is the logic there?  I can't speak for P.M.,
>but have you ever read AW&ST?  It is VERY serious.

Yes, I have read it. It's generally serious... except when it reports
sightings. In this last case, it seems no more serious than UFO reviews
(at least I think so, since I don't read UFO reviews).

J. Pharabod