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From: zucker@uni2a.unige.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: About CMD. Spooler needs help !
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:20:00 GMT
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

I am writing a printer spooler for the Amiga. It's supposed to allow sharing
a printer between several Amigas, over any network. To minimize RAM usage, I
chose to write it as a disk-based spooler, but it can be run with a RAM disk.
I ask to be notified when a certain directory is modified, then find the file
that was just closed, enqueue it, and send it out the serial or parallel port.

Now, I use CMD to redirect printer ouput to a file, but I don't want the output
of my spooler to be redirected. What is the best way to solve the problem ?

My ideas so far are :

1- redirect serial if you use parallel, clumsy, but easy.
2- copy parallel.device to spoolpar.device and use that, but what happens
   when CMD exits ? two devices on the same port ???
3- include CMD-like operation into my spooler, so that i can call the 
   devices' original BEGINIO. C= has a copyright on CMD, what would they
   want ? EZSpool will not be commercial. I would LOVE to give it to 
   C= for inclusion into a new version of the O.S.

Any other ideas? All suggestions are very welcome. E-Mail replies preferred.

thanks,
eric

zucker@tuni2a.unige.ch or
zucker@uni2a.unige.ch  or

Eric Zucker
1, ch Pre-Polly
CH-1233 GENEVA SWITZERLAND
+ 41 22 7574325
From: aces@mcode.amdahl.com (Jeffrey D. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Shareware fees from overseas
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:09:02 GMT
Reply-To: jds30@amail.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale Ca.

In article <1992Jul30.202926.20463@tamsun.tamu.edu>, dkf8117@tamsun.tamu.edu (D. K. Fields) writes:
> Whats the best way to collect shareware fees from users outside of the US?
> Say with a price tag of ~$10?  How much should it cost to mail a disk
> overseas?  I am about to release a program and would like anyone's
> feedback on the best way to handle this.  Thanks
A friend here in USA received $10 shareware fee from a nice
person in Europe.  The money was in the form of a Eurocheck;
very nice engraving, etc.  The banks here want $50 to cash it.

He framed it.
From: den@cci632.cci.com (Dennis J. Buttery)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: BLINK errors - HELP!!
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:37:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY


	I imagine this must fall somewhere in the FAQ list, but he we go
anyways...

	I am currently writing a program that uses both gadtools and asl 
run-time libraries.  In doing so I obviously make several calls to their
functions.  The code I wrote compiles just fine, however, when BLINK gets
ahold of it each one of the functions calls I made generates a BLINK error
'UNDEFINED SYMBOL for _CreateGadget' (as an example) and wants me to
provide a DEFINE value for the symbol or default to _stub.  

	I have double-checked all my include files.  I have tried it with
the <clib/protos_XXX> files and without - same results!  I'm sure that
this is something relatively simple that I'm overlooking here.  Can anyone
point out the trick to this for me???    Thanks.


BTW- I'm using SAS 5.10b compiler package.
From: dstuve@prism.cs.orst.edu (David Stuve)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: BOOPSI problems...
Summary: This crashes my machine...
Keywords: help boopsi models
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:53:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Jul22.045325.29559
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept

I have modified the RKMMod class from the new RKM: Libraries manual (p 312)
to have up/down buttons instead of the integer gadget.

But whenever I pass one of my buttons or the prop gadget the ICA_TARGET, mymodel
and run the program...

instant hang and guru #4.

mymodel is a Object * that I get from NewObject..

I put a printf in the dispatcher function, but it only gets executed when the
model is created and the icclass gadgets are added as members.  So I suspect
that the system is crashing before it calls my dispatcher.

Any ideas?  Would posted code help?

David Stuve
Mindworks
From: mcraig@ee.fit.edu (Mark Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: PCQ Pascal
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:38:49 GMT
Organization: Florida Tech, CP/EE Dept.

In <1992Jul16.124054.21829@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> ejames@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (ERIC JAMES) writes:


>  Has anyone been able to register PCQ Pascal?  About one or two months ago I
>sent off the $25 dollars to Patrick, and havn't seen anything yet.  All atempts
>to E-Mail him as well seem to fail.  Dose anyone know anything about him, or
>how I can get in touch with him.  I don't know if my letter got to him or what
>happened.

I sent the registration fee about three months ago, also, and haven't heard
or received anything.  The PCQ packet I downloaded from an FTP site was
apparently corrupted and parts were missing so I couldn't get it to work...
but it DID look and sound interesting from the doc files...
 
Has anyone gotten in touch with him?
 
Denoy DeBoer
(this is being posted on a friend's account)

--
Mark Craig
mcraig@ee.fit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Library Call?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:21:02 GMT

In <paulk.0tlw@terapin.com> paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz) writes:

>Getting the value from fast ram wold save a cycle here and there, I
>presume.  Though if you're accessing _SysBase with 32 bit absolute
>addressing (large data), then it might be slower insteadf faster.

Now, _SysBase could be accessed relative to a base register (A4 with
most compilers) which again is same speed as $4.w. But the penalty
for accessing $4.w can be quite large if you use heavy overscan with
16 color hires (or while the blitter is busy!).

Regards,
-- 
Michael van Elst
UUCP:     universe!local-cluster!milky-way!sol!earth!uunet!unido!mpirbn!p554mve
Internet: p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
                                "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."
From: heinz@edohwg.UUCP (Heinz Wrobel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Going from volume lock to device name
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:32:01 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <rfmmkdp.davids@netcom.com> davids@netcom.com (Dave Schreiber) writes:
>Can anyone tell me how to get a device name, given a lock on the volume
>that the device is associated with.  I'm writing a program that takes
>as input locks (to disks) from Workbench, and need to go to the appropriate
>device name ("DF0:", "WB_2.X:", etc).
>
>[code deleted]
>
>am I missing something (Kickstart V37.175, Workbench V37.67)?

Don't walk the DeviceList. You don't have to and it's messy anyway.

Use the dos NameFromLock() function and clip anything after the devicename
you're looking for.

>Dave Schreiber/davids@netcom.com (until 9/15/92)/"Ask, don't touch"

--
Heinz Wrobel, Edotronik GmbH (ECG018)
FAX +49 89 850 51 25 / TEL +49 89 850 25 20 (HOME!&VOICE, sometimes...)
From: d0per@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Hiller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: PGA_NewLook is nowhere to be found!
Keywords: PGA_NewLook
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:04:01 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

I have a little problem: my compiler (SAS/C 5.10a) doesn't seem to 
recognize the PGA_NewLook tag, all I get is 'undefined identifier'.
Could be that my includes aren't complete? (I bought the compiler
before V37 was released.) Please, help me...someone.

- Martin.

--
    // Martin Hiller (d0per@dtek.chalmers.se)| "You come from nothing,
\\ //  Chalmers University of Technology     |  you go to nothing.
 \X/   Gothenburg, Sweden, Europe            |  What've you lost? NOTHING !
                                                - Life of Brian (Monty Python)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper)
Subject: Re: Standard 2.0 File Requester Question
Originator: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:00:40 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Jul22.082021.10699@cs.kuleuven.ac.be>, philipm@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Philip Marivoet) writes:
>I don't have an idea why ASL may be slow but take a look at ReqTools.
>This requester package is a MUST for every programmer who uses 
>requesters. They are easy to use (for the programmer and for the user),
>VERY powerful (I especially like the feature where you can use the arrow
>keys to select a file) and style guide conformant under 1.3 and 2.0
>ReqTools can be found on amiga.physik.unizh.ch

Or, you could go ahead and use the ASL requester, even though it isn't
a speed-demon, and trust that the guys at Commodore will do something
about the speed problem in a future release.

Really, they use these machines at work all day, don't you think they've
noticed problems like this?  :-)

-- 
---------------
Jim Cooper
(jamie@unx.sas.com)                             bix: jcooper

Any opinions expressed herein are mine (Mine, all mine!  Ha, ha, ha!),
and not necessarily those of my employer.
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:06:05 GMT
Organization: Amiga makes it possible
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <BrpFqH.8MD@DMI.USherb.CA> vailm00@DMI.USherb.CA (MARC VAILLANCOURT) writes:
> -> I use CED (CygnusED). Its the first editor Iv'e used that does not
> -> leave me wishing I had VI handy :-). (I am one of those wierd
> -> people who actualy _like_ VI).
>
>     Anybody know if CED will ever be updated? The latest release I've seen
> is 2.12 and it's almost two years old! I'd like to buy the program myself,
> but I'll never pay for something that won't be updated, especially to
> support more 2.0 (and above) features...
>
> 	Marc

Check out the TurboText demo on the fish disks (in the 400's).  Once you
try it, you will buy it :)

--
Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
1124 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos, CA 94024
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: MakeScreen(); RethinkDisplay() vs. MakeVPort(); MrgCop(); LoadView()
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:15:08 GMT

In <33307@cbmvax.commodore.com> peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna) writes:
>Intuition gives you features, but that comes with overhead.  Intuition
>is pretty efficient for the most part, especially given its responsibilities
>vis the kinds of things it has to achieve and support.  RethinkDisplay()
>is slow because it potentially has a lot of work to do.  Far more than
>you probably realize.

Maybe RethinkDisplay does too many things for most tasks. Can't there be
specialized functions for scrolling a viewport or swapping double buffers ?

>RethinkDisplay() is the general "I munged a screen, please make everything
>happy again" function.  We're not going to supply specialized mini-versions
>to handle each potential sub-case.

Not each subcase but certain subcases would be useful.

Regards,
-- 
Michael van Elst
UUCP:     universe!local-cluster!milky-way!sol!earth!uunet!unido!mpirbn!p554mve
Internet: p554mve@mpirbn.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de
                                "A potential Snark may lurk in every tree."
From: achow@cad093.scdt.intel.com (Abel Chow ~)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs vs. the world . . . (was Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?)
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:41:51 GMT
	<1992Jul24.141245.18706@syma.sussex.ac.uk>
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA
In-reply-to: mpue2@syma.sussex.ac.uk's message of 24 Jul 92 14:12:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.141245.18706@syma.sussex.ac.uk> mpue2@syma.sussex.ac.uk (James E. Talbut) writes:

> From article <ACHOW.92Jul23183544@cad093.scdt.intel.com>, by achow@cad093.scdt.intel.com (Abel Chow ~):
> > Oh, boy.  An GNU Emacs vs. the world thread . . .

> I cut all the rest out 'cos it's not relevant.

Not relevant?!?!?  <grin>

> This was mailed but it didn't get through, maybe ACHOW or someone
> else here can answer my questions:

My email address is in my signature (achow@scdt.intel.com).

> O.K. then, since you seem to kow what you're talking about here's
> some question for you about the one TRUE editor:

> 1) How do I dump it?

Since I'm at work and my Amiga is at home, I can't check this one out.
Make sure that you have the latest version of Emacs (18.58, Amiga
version 1.25G or something like that).  The earlier versions were
somewhat unstable but I've been using this version for a couple months
and it's pretty stable.  Check the README file that comes with archive
(which is pretty big--~1.5 MB--but it comes with all the info docs).

> 2) How do I get it to not EVER do backups?
> 3) How do I get it to NEVER do autosave?

Put the following two lines into your ~/.emacs file (on the Amiga, ~ = S:):

(setq make-backup-files nil)
(setq auto-save-default nil)

These variables are all documented in the online help ("^H i m Emacs"
and browse to your heart's content).

> Please help me as I really like what emacs can do but I get severely
> annoyed at any program that makes files without telling me about it!

GNU Emacs DOES tell you when it's auto-saving (y'know, the annoying
pause while you're in the middle of the editing session).  I find the
backups to be a lifesaving feature, but you can turn it off if you
wish.

> Another question: When I exit emacs it tries to write something to
> my SYS: what? and why?

I wouldn't know.  Use SnoopDos to find out the filename of the file.

> Thanks for any help.

Sure, no problem.  Feel free (you or anyone else . . .) to email me
if you have any problems, questions, etc.

>	   J.T.

> -- 
> Fine beer may be judged with just one sip,
	   but it's better to be thoroughly sure.  -  Czech proverb

> James Talbut            mpue2@syma.susx.ac.uk

Abel
I'm inside Intel, but my (er, home) computer doesn't have "Intel
Inside."  8) (* 2^32 if you work for Intel.)
--
=E=D---Abel Chow (achow@scdt.intel.com)
Intel - Santa Clara, CA  (408)76543-95
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: A better change directory(CD) command
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:13:00 GMT
Organization: BBS

> Only CD command seems to understand wildcards, not shell command
> interpreter.  I don't know if WShell does this ?
 
It does if you type "cd" but not if you just type the pattern.
From: chopps@ro-chp.UUCP (Chris Hopps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: MUNGWALL 37.54 uploaded
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:45:53 GMT
 <2GKqr*H00@ro-chp.UUCP>
Organization: Not an Organization
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <2GKqr*H00@ro-chp.UUCP>, Chris Hopps writes:

> In article <8blqr*PJ0@caleb.UUCP>, Jim Pritchett writes:
>
> > Has anyone made the above program available for bms?
> >
> Sure have. see address below.
> ("BMS:Pub/Prog" is where it resides)

Oops thats "BMS:Pub/Prog/mung_37_54.lzh"

------------------------
The Royal Oak Chophouse >> Chris Hopps
Royal Oak, Michigan     >> sycom.mi.org!ro-chp!chopps
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs vs. the world . . . (was Re: C Programmer's Edito
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 2.0, 1992/06/25 01:41:36
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:03:19 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <62867@cup.portal.com>, plav@cup.portal.com (Rick M Plavnicky) wrote:
> 
> Is there an MG revision higher than `Mg 3a Beta 4'?

Not released. There probably never will be, as the work involved in
building a releasable version is apparently greater than the work
involved in converting my mg-specific hooks to work with GNU.

Of course, you've got the sources, and are free to create whatever you
want with them.

	<mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: goldek@marcus.its.rpi.edu (That rhymes with Pengo)
Subject: What's calling getml()?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:10:45 GMT

I just discovered lprof and lstat in SAS.  Cute.  I managed to find and fix 
a really poorly written routine.  However, lstat shows a lot of calls to    
getml (20%).  Unfortuanely I have no idea what routine I'm using is being so
"free and easy" with memory allocation.  Is there any way to find out?      
                                                                            
                                                                            
                                        Thanks                              

-- 
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-----------------------   *||----------------|* looking on, say Long Island 
SkateAway, that's all     *||RPI: Fun in Troy|* won't be all that effective
From: stelmack@eggo.tmc.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: IFF Animation Code
Date: 21 Jul 92 02:37:01 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

I am looking for code for doing IFF animations. I have the NewIFF code from
Commodore, but it contains no code for animations (both playing and building).
I have a need for code which can build an anim from a series of pictures, and
a coworker who needs routines for playing (extracting into frames) an anim.
Any pointers would be appreciated.

--
-- Greg Stelmack (stelmack@eggo.csee.usf.edu)
-- FullTime Grad Student, PartTime Amiga Salesman, PartTime Amiga Developer
-- Author of: Spades, Pro Port Analyzer Plus, more to come...
-- DISCLAIMER: The opinions reflected here are mine and mine alone.
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: WB2.04 distribution solution
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:23:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: terapin.paulk.0wjc
Organization: BBS

>     Here, it is MUCH easier to get access to ftp than it is to get
>     access to BIX.
 
And even for certified developers in the US, who get a discount on
BIX rates, it's *still* just too durn expensive for many of us.

Not that I have any FTP access either ...  but if I did I bet it would
be free ...     :)
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs vs. the world . . . (was Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 2.0, 1992/06/25 01:41:36
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:55:06 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <ACHOW.92Jul23183544@cad093.scdt.intel.com>, achow@cad093.scdt.intel.com (Abel Chow ~) wrote:
> I'm wondering how many Amiga users have actually used GNU Emacs.  I
> have met MANY people who claim to use Emacs but don't even know how to
> call up the online help

GNU Emacs is a subset of Emacs, not the whole thing. A fair number of
people consider the Goslings variant to be "the one true Emacs". Guess
what - it uses Control-H to backspace, not for help. It is very
comparable to GNU Emacs in terms of size, functionality and features
(i.e. - it's got more of any than you really want :-).

In additions, there are minor variants available for most platforms
that include enough of an extensions language that RMS wouldn't object
to them being called emacs.

In other words, it's possible for someone to be *very* familiar with
emacs, but have never used GNU emacs.

> For smaller editing jobs, I use MG (which is less than 100 KB).  (I
> was going to update it for 2.0 but when the Real Thing came out, oh,
> well).

Update? What were you going to add? I use MG regularly on the latest
thing I can get from CBM, and it doesn't have any serious problems.
Needs a few new features, though. However, the real GNU sort of kills
that. The trouble is, replacing all the amiga-specific functionality
I've built around MG isn't that easy.

	<mike
From: cooper@milton.u.washington.edu (Ken Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Bug in CreateGadget().....
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:56:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul21.175648.25836
Reply-To: cooper@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


    While doing some programming last night I ran across a bug in the
CreateGadget() routine dealing with string gadgets.  I was using an
INTEGER_KIND gadget with the font (TextAttr) set to LetterGothic 30 point that
I had opened earlier in the program.  The problem was encountered when I
attempted to use CreateGadget() with the new font and had the gadget height
too small to render the font in.  Although the RKM Libraries chapter on Gadgets
states that the default system font will be used in this case, the
CreateGadget() call returned a NULL pointer (indicating failure) instead of
a gadget structure pointer.  That's fine, since my gadget height was too small.
The 'BUG' however, came when my code responded to the NULL return value by
attempting to free up everything and quit gracefully.  It seems that even 
though the CreateGadget() routine and 'failed' and returned a NULL pointer, it
had already linked in the 'new' Gadget structure onto the end of my gadget
list.  In fact, it had done this linkage and then failed prior to initializing
the NextGadget field of the 'new' Gadget structure to NULL.  As a result,
when I went and did FreeGadget(glist) my machine went out to lunch.
    Anyway, the obvious solution for me was to correct the hieght of my gadget.
HOWEVER, IF CreateGadget() IS GOING TO FAIL AND RETURN A NULL, IT SHOULD NOT
LEAVE THE GADGET LIST LINKAGE CORRUPTED.

For your info......

Ken Cooper
Applied Physics Laboratory
University of Washington
cooper@u.washington.edu
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: Advice on partions for hard drive
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 2.0, 1992/06/25 01:41:36
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:12:18 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <paulk.0ucm@terapin.com>, paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz) wrote:
> re advantages of few vs. many partitions --
>  
> There's no advantage of backupability of separate partitions vs. just
> backing up drawers, which I do.  The only thing I back up more than
> once a week or so is the drawer with my source code in it.  Nothing
> else changes that much or is all that important.

Unless you sort the drawers at the root of your HD by how they should
be backed up, this isn't true. Different backup programs may change
the pain involved in ignoring that restriction, but I've as yet to see
one that made it zero.

Since the backup frequency and activity are related, building
partitions based on one usually give you the other, and thus a double
win.

	<mike
From: smythe@cats.ucsc.edu (Brian Matthew Aljian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Standard 2.0 File Requester Question
Date: 22 Jul 1992 04:34:42 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Why is this file requester (ASL is I think the name) so slow getting
directories?  I want to use it in a program but I hate how slow it is.  Is
there another one that looks like it (I like the look and feel of 2.0) but
gets faster directory listings.  I know it can be done because I have seen
some *amazingly* fast file requestors in my time (Pixel 3D's comes to mind --
that sucker flys!).  Unfortunately, I've also seen some *amazingly* slow
ones.. i.e. ASL.  Any ideas?

-- 
   Brian M. Aljian
   smythe@stallion.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer