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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 92 18:06:00 GMT
From:         "Mark D. Szuchman, History,
              Florida Int. Univ." <SZUCHMAN@SERVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Laser Twin 5.0 capabilities
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Marvyn Harris asks about Laser Twin's ability to printout user-customized HP
softfonts on a Toshiba.  Technically, I do not know the answer; in practice, I
beleive tht the answer is no, since Laser Twin works on the basis of its own
creation of HP's fonts.  In other words, it never deals with other fonts than
its own, which are emulations, and which the program uses to intercept the
output, and draw the page image.
Jerome Walsh asks about Laser Twin's compatibility with 9-pin printers, such
as Epson FX-80.  The answer is yes, it works well with all Epson models.  I'm
told that quality of print on 9-pin machines appears somewhat improved,
probably the result of the more than one printhead pass the program instructs
the printer to execute.  I recall working with a Citizen 120-D, a 9-pin
printer capable of emulating both an Epson FX-80 and an IBM printer.  The text
quality was not so great, but the graphics were very nice.  To the extent that
Laser Twin, in essence, provides a graphic image of the text, it ought to
improve the look of the printout.
Finally, Tom Schlesinger's problems with the drivers for NEC P-2200XE and 3200
from NB4, NBI ought to be able to provide fixes, since they've been working on
eliminating bugs and limitations on several printer drivers.  However, NB3 did
not provide all the typefaces available on the NEC-P2200XE, specifically, the
OCR and the Fast Focus were never included.  Furthermore, the proportional
spacing was really nothing more than the repeated ITC Souvenir, limited to
10-pitch.  At least, that is the case with my drivers.
Mark D. Szuchman, History, FIU
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 92 12:00:13 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: overflow files
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Tim Moore,
  after your posting I tried again.  Shelling out to DOS from
NB4 still does create a file "@NBDTA.TMP" in the directory
specified in the line "DR=" in NBCUSTOM.SET, which in my case
is a ramdrive.  I did not check in on a 'real' disk, so I'm free
to speculate that this feature may depend on whether the overflow
drive is a fast virtual drive or a slower real thing.

j-p takala
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:57:00 EST
From:         "Ada_W.Finifter" <FINIFTER@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Review and Ascii 0
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I have not observed any problem with review files other than the one already
reaised earlier, that when you try to abandon them, you get the message that
the file has been changed (when it hasn't), and do you still want to abandon.

However, I'm wondering why you are uploading the review file rather than a
regular export file.  I wasn't aware that review files were designed for
anything other than looking at them on the screen before printing.
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 09:14:47 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The second Orbis search
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Nicolai,
  I seem to be able to retrieve several hits from an Orbis textbase.
However, I was also able to reproduce your friend's symptom: only
the first match was transferred and then I had to restart the
search.  Orbis seems to be very senstitive to what you do
between retrieving one match and fetching the other.  A sure way
to get it off balance was to clear the define in the Orbis window
with ESC after the first hit was transferred.  Actually, undefining
with ESC seems to srew things up any time in an Orbis match window.
(Not only is Orbis out of control but your work file may also have
disappeared).  This, however worked for me: after copying one hit
to the adjacent window, alt-F10, gray+ until the next match you
need appears, then define it (but don't undefine), alt-F10, gray+,
etc.
I don't know about big textbases though.

j-p takala
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:04:49 GMT
From:         M.A.Elass@DURHAM.AC.UK
Subject:      copying to action line
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> 2.  Transferring a marked block to the action line with grey + does
> not work. Categorical. See p. 4 of the Changes and New Features Guide.
>

Mervyn,

Forgive my bumbling attempt at help on copying a marked block to the action
line, but if you are using a laptop it might be a mix-up in key designations.
Have you tried using Ctl+P?  I believe that is an alternate key for the grey
plus.

As soon as I get off this university system, I shall hustle off to my laptop
and give it a try as well.

Cheers, man!

Mateen (m.a.elass@uk.ac.durham)
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 06:50:39 EST
From:         J.BERG@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU
Subject:      Re: NB4 Deprovements
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I think I just sent the list a blank message--sorry!  I was trying to
kill it, and failed.
  What I wanted to do was respond to Robert Kelly's remarks about nested
menus and added keystrokes.  First, thanks for pointing out that many of
them are only needed to accommodate Lingua users--I had figured that
they had been added because the old, shorter combinations had been given
new uses--but I have not yet become familiar enough with NB 4 to know
which new uses I could do without, or even what they are.  As a Lingua
non-user, I now feel a little more emboldened to change back the
changes I do not like.

  More generally, while I share Mervyn's exasperation (if not, unfortunately,
his blackbird) I also think that at least some of this comes from lack
of familiarity with NB 4.  That is, right now the aggravation of having
to hit three keys instead of two to lower-case a capitalized word is added
to by the much greater aggravation of having to pull out the "Changes and
New Features" (or whatever it is called) booklet to find out what those keys
are.  Similarly, I miss F1-Info more now than I will after I have learned
how to make greater use of the action line with new commands.

  Finally, I am also exasperated because at this point NB 4 does not seem
to be much of an IMprovement over 3.1.  Again, I do not use Lingua; and
Orbis, potentially a big improvement, does not yet function well, from
what I hear--at least, I have not had the courage to try it.  For word
processing itself--perhaps here, again, familiarity will make the advantages
clearer with time, but I am not yet convinced.

John Berg
j.berg@acad.suffolk.edu
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 11:24:54 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar" <itiez@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: driver for HP4
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On Thu, 17 Dec 1992, Dieter Christensen wrote:

>
>
>    I've got my NB 4.0 to print ok to out HP III with the HP III driver that
 came
> with NB 4.0. Now I switched to the HP 4 - and it chokes on anything other
> than Courier 10 or 12 pt. I know, serves me right. I have tried to use the
> HP III driver (so much for downward compatibility on the HP side), of course,
> in the absence of a HP 4 driver.
> 	So where do I go from here (like trade in the HP4 for an HP III) ?
>
> Dieter Christensen

This shows how important it is to convince NBI to let their
printer tables be open files again. While Lodestar and some editing
could solve such problems for previous versions, with NB 4.0
one is completely helpless.

Itamar E-Z

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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 92 11:24:03 EDT
From:         Hugh Agnew <AGNEWHL@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LaserTwin 5.0 & NB
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Mark Szuchman reports success using Laser Twin 5.0 and NB4.

Let's ask for the moon:  Mark, did you try it with Lingua?

Or has anyone else?

Thanks!

Hugh Agnew
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:25:49 -0600
From:         Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>
Subject:      Ibid+ Screen Problem
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I gather from the silence in responce to my question of last week about
the instructions that are supposed to be on the bottom of the Ibid Add
a cite screen, but arn't on mine (and, by the way, also don't show up
on my Home ATI-VGA-Lingua set-up either), that either no one else has
the problem, or they do and don't care, or they do, care and have no
idea what, if anything, to do about it.  I will try NBI, and their new
group of recently trained Technitions on Monday to see what they say.
If I do get an answer, I may pass it on, in case anyone is interested.

--Ken Salzberg
ksalzber@hamline.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:50:57 PST
From:         Stephen Davison <davison@BMF.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deskjet
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On the subject of draft quality and the Deskjet:
I asked NBI about this and they told me that I had to control the
choice from the printer's control panel.
Stephen Davison
davison@usc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:14:16 IST
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Subject:      Re: doubles again
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John Berg notes that he is getting doubles of Itamar's messages.  I am too.

Yechiel Goldberg
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From:         "Thomas O. Mammoser" <tom9e@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Linked styles
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Another mystery.

I have the exact same file structure on my desktop and notebook
computers.  That is, all NB4 files and texts created therewith
reside in the same directories and sub-directories.  All files
and dates of the NB4 files match.

However, when I attempt to create a letter using a linked style
on the laptop, it will not do it, telling me that the file is
unable to be created.  However, the same process works perfectly
on the desktop computer.

Why is this happening?

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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 92 00:38:15 IST
From:         "Michael J." <JASPER@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: welcome to XyWrite users!
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Gosh, in response to that very heart-warming post from Dorothy Day, I
find myself moved to join hands with someone and start singing
Cumbaya. I mean, if you can find commonalities even with people who use
*different function key mappings*, then certainly anything is possible.


Pardon me while I wipe the tear from my eye.

;-)

Michael "just a wee bit sarcastic" Jasper
Jasper@helix.mgh.harvard.edu
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:49:12 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar" <itiez@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: separators, NB, Orbis
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Re: Separators table in NB 3.0/3.1 DEFAULT.SET:

This section is indeed no integral part of DF/NBI's file; it was
suggested by Tony Woozley, I believe, in the post-Tysonian era.
I then integrated it (with a few more sections) into my
'augmented DEFAULT.SET' (in NBHLPnn.ZIP /the 'nn' stand here for
the version number: 01, 02, etc.). No wonder J-P didn't have it.
DF/NBI could have integrated many adds-on and features suggested
on this list, but they have ignored us all along.

Itamar

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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:22:57 EST
From:         Dorothy Day <DAY@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Text-Blocks:Boilerplate

Ken,

> 4.0 doesn't seem to be able to find my .run files inthe xpl sub-
>directory and I've tried to reset that location to get it to work (it sill
>(that's "still") hasn't - goes to the last entry in my path statement, then
>says it can't find the file in that last place (presumably after having looked
>at all the other places in my path, but never in nb4/xpl - go figure.

>--Ken Salzberg
>ksalzber@hamline.edu

Try poking around in your NBCUSTOM.SET file, where all these useful
things are recorded. Yours may say \XPL instead of \NB4\XPL--with more
than one installation, I found some inconsistencies of this sort. I've
settled on all the various special directories set as subdirectories
of \NB4\, and made sure my NBCUSTOM.SET swallowed those instructions,
and doesn't include any conflicting instructions.

Dorothy Day
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:18:52 IST
From:         "Michael J." <JASPER@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bugs List?
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I've sent three lists of my own personal bugs (that is, bugs I've found
in NB, not in me) to NBI since receiving my "final release". Although
a comprehensive list is more efficient, a barrage of lists of bugs might
get more attention from them. I recommend everyone sending their own
lists, complete with details of the system they've appeared on, to help
trace configuration-specific problems.

Speaking of the reorganization, has anyone spoken to NBI since the week
of special training in Baltimore? I tried to reach the newly-trained
customer support folks yesterday, and got a busy signal. I hope this isn't
an indication of the new and improved customer support strategy.

Michael Jasper
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:33:25 EST
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: OS/2
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Since there have been a couple of requests for information about
running NB4 under OS/2 on this list, I thought I might share my
experience.

NB4 can be simply migrated to the desktop, without any special
settings, and it works fine.  "Vanilla" NB4 will run windowed without
difficulty--Lingua will run windowed, but you can use the special
screen fonts only in a full-screen session (that's what I do).  I have
drawn a makeshift icon of a dragonfly on a red background to use with
the program--I will send it along in a separate message for anybody
who cares to use it.  I know the Great Dragonfly has departed to
better realms, where little bugs are always fat, but I still like to
use the icon...

The only element that needs special attention is the treatment of the
two OS/2 system keys, Ctrl-Esc and Alt-Esc, which call up the task
list and shift to the next process, respectively.  There are two
approaches to dealing with them.  The default is that OS/2 preempts
these keys for its own use and the application never sees them.  I
have chosen to retain this default and duplicate the functions of
these keys (in NBLINGUA.KBD) on unused keys (I use Ctrl-Shift-Alt-F5
and Ctrl-Shift-Alt-F6).  The alternative is to decide which of the
OS/2 system functions you can do without and disable it--you can
disable only one, else you would be unable to move out of a
full-screen process without quitting.

Although I am a bit pressed for time at the moment, I would be happy
to address any questions on this matter--it just might take a few days
for turnaround.  By the way, there IS an OS/2 list also.  It is
OS2-L@FRORS12.BITNET, to which one may subscribe in the normal way by
sending a message/command to LISTSERV@FRORS12.BITNET.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:14:27 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      hyphen in Orbis
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Orbis seems to treat the (hard) hyphen differently from the old TB,
now it is not a separator.  Hence
       even zohar
  will not find Even-Zohar, nor will
       jukka pekka   or
       jukka
  match with Jukka-Pekka.

This is a welcome improvement, once you know it is there.

There is a file which probably will, eventually, allow one to determine
exactly which characters one wants to treat as separators, but that
does not seem to function yet.

j-p takala
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 92 16:25:39 IST
From:         "J. P. Earls, OSB" <JEARLS@TINY.COMPUTING.CSBSJU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: real words
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Tim Moore--
None of these words --degrade, downgrade, worsen, spoil-- indicate the
supposed intent to *improve* the product.  It is a kind of deconstructive
construction.
J. P. EARLS / ST.JOHN'S UNIV. / COLLEGEVILLE, MN / 56321 / JEARLS@CSBSJU.EDU
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:27:00 EDT
From:         Frank Stewart <STEWART@ANNENRES.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: OS/2
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I for one hope that any information about OS/2 will be publicized via
the noticeboard, rather than transmitted privately.  I'm about to get
a new computer, and am wondering whether to use OS/2.
        Frank Stewart, Annenberg Institute
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No to Tim Moore and others. DEPROVEMENT. It's nifty. I've already passed
it along to two other bulletin boards. It is clear, simple, direct. All
the things good writers crave. In six weeks we'll be sick of it, but for
now felicitations to--Mervyn, was it?--whoever gave it to us.
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Subject:      overflow files
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J-P Takala reported (though I have deleted his message)




I have deleted his message, so the details may not
be correct) that NB creates a file on the overflow drive called something
like NBDTA... when you shell out to DOS.  I tried it just now, and
found that no such file was created by NB3 or NB4 when shelling out after
purely word-processing activities.
Tim Moore
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:44:57 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Running xpl programs
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Ken, Allan, Dorothy,
  the simplest thing is to have the XPL directory in the DOS path.
Having it merely in the NBCUSTOM.SET does not seem to help when
running pgms from the action line (Dorothy, I checked that NBCUSTOM.SET
stated the full and correct path).

j-p takala
jtakala@cc.helsinki.fi
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:29:44 EST
From:         "William H. TeBrake" <TEBRAKE@MAINE.BITNET>
Subject:      Panasonic 1124 annoyance with NB4
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The first time I try to print in a session, all works as it should.  But
on second and subsequent attempts to print, my Panasonic 1124 ejects a
blank page before beginning to print.  Turning the printer off and back
on has no effect, meaning that it's not something left in the printer
buffer from the last job.  It must be something in the printer driver,
but I can find nothing in the printer table that suggests itself as the
cause.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I might avoid the
substantial waste of paper?
Best regards,
Bill
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 92 12:46:30 EST
From:         "Paul J. Bodin" <pjb3@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NBI Fax #
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Andrew Rippin writes:

> I've been trying to send a FAX to NBI today but the number just
> seems to ring and ring.  Has anybody been able to contact them
> during their moving period?  Is there a new FAX number?

Sorry I couldn't get to this until today, but I just sent a fax to NBI
at the same number I've always used: 212-334-0845 (US).  Everything
seemed to work fine...

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