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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Blitter - what does it do besides bitcopy?
Date: 19 Dec 1992 15:46:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



Hi, all...
A Blitter is a bitmap copying and transformation chip?

Is this all that it does?

Which chip is responsible for the STe's hardware scrolling?


Most other game systems use a very fast graphics chip to take care of
the sprites, scaling, scrolling, etc.

My question is:  If ATARI is interested in making this system a competitor
in the computer entertainment market, why didn't Atari include one?


The SNES has a CPU speed of 3.58 MHz!  Everyone looked at this speed
and laughed, but the graphics chip showed that the speed of the processor
did not matter too much at all.

The Sega Genesis is based on a 68000 CPU at the speed of 7.6 MHz.
This system pretty much relies on the programmer for rotation, etc.
BUT I'm pretty sure it still has a graphics chip.  And I'm POSITIVE
that the Sega CD-ROM player has an especially designed graphics chip
for rotation.

Recently, Nintendo announced to the world that it has developed a graphics
chip that will be powerful enough for 3-D imaging.


If the Falcon030 does NOT have a graphics chip that is responsible for
these features, won't the video game systems pass this system by?


Also, if the JAGUAR has a 64-bit RISC graphics chip like we all suppose
that it will, the Falcon030 will NOT be able to run any of those games.


I don't know.  If I was Atari, I'd try to get the Falcon030 and Jaguar
to both have the same graphics chip.  This way game developers would be
more willing to make games for these systems.  And Atari would have an
edge over systems.




And wouldn't a graphics chip capable of helping out with all of these
features save on memory?  And programmers' time?

I doubt there is any way that a FUTURE 64-bit RISC graphics chip can be
added to the Falcon030 at another time...



--
From: vovut@prism.CS.ORST.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Mega ST 4 for sale
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:25:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1ggd8nINN1t8
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prism.cs.orst.edu



* Mega ST 4
    keyboard
    3 mice (2 flakey Atari, 1 working Golden Image)

* SM124 monochrome monitor

* IB Computer's ST->multisync monitor switchbox

* Supra 20 Meg HD 
    drive is bad, but SCSI controller, case, and power supply are good;
    no power cable

* Book: The Concise Atari ST 68000 Programmer's Reference Guide
    good book on the guts of the ST (like ST Internals, but better, IMHO)

* Deskcart
    cartridge with a bunch of utilities accessible via a desk accessory;
    utilities include calendar, ramdisk, memory test, VT-52 emulator, etc.;
    has a real-time clock, too


Price: $400/best offer

Everthing is in good working condition (except the HD).

I'd like to sell as a complete system, but I'll consider offers for individual
items.


Trung
vovut@prism.cs.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: kpetouss@cs.ruu.nl (Kos Petoussis)
Subject: Stuck in some Other games
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:38:29 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: Knightmare, Lure

Yes, well... I am very thankful to those who helped me with those 
questions last time, but it's going to be a hell of a Christmas
if I can't solve these ones:


Knightmare
  In Quest III you need 4 iron keys. Guess what, I have only 3.
  I have to solve
  'only push the right ones'. this is a 5x5 maze, with mobile walls.
  You start in one corner. In the other corner is a door. Closed.
  I have found the pressure plate in one corner and
  a secret button on the wall next to it.
  What is in the 4th corner?  How does the door open ?

Lure of the Temptress
1.Nellie gave me a flask for the gem. The blacksmith drinks it but 
  then does *NOTHING*  , in particular he gives me no information. 
  What do I do wrong?
2.How do I get past the Skorl guarding the castle door, drink a
  transformation potion and look like Selena ? If so, Then
  how do I activate Taidgh's apparatus?

If you help me or not, anyway:
 To EVERYBODY (including non-atarians and my ex-girlfriend) MERRY XMAS
 and a fully playable 1993  !!!

Kos aka Kosterix
From: ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Piracy of software
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:56:42 GMT

From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
>In <1992Dec10.171254.23031@nosc.mil> healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy) writes:
>
>>The people I see stealing
>>pc software are usually honest enough to admit that their motive is
>>greed, not some lofty aspiration to make the world a better place :-)
>
>Most people I see selling software are  honest  enough  to  admit
>exactly the same...
>
>Greetinx, Jan
>
> +- Jan Kim -- X.400:    S=kim;OU=vax;O=mpiz-koeln;P=mpg;A=dbp;C=de -+
> |             Internet: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de               |
> |                                                                   |
> *----=<  hierarchical systems are for files, not for humans  >=-----*

Honest pay for a day's work isn't greed.  If half the copies of my software
are stolen, then 50% of my day is spent supporting thieves.  The answer to
high prices/low quality is to not use the software--not to use it without
paying for it.

If information and software should flow freely, then who's going to pay my
rent?

 - Ron Sharp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dcooper@bluff.compserv.utas.edu.au (David Cooper)
Subject: Looking for ICD
Summary: Lokking for a US company called ICD
Keywords: ST, SCSI, disk, ICD
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 23:21:30 GMT

I'm seeking the address (and phone/fax numbers if possible) for a US company
called ICD on behalf of a friend. They apparently make an ST -> SCSI drive
adaptor with a real-time clock onboard.

E-mail replies please to the address below.

Thanks for any help given
David
-- 
David Cooper                        Senior Computing Officer (Academic)
Computing Services                                  UTL Network Manager
University of Tasmania                             Phone: +61 03 260598
PO Box 1214 Launceston 7250 Australia                Fax: +61 03 264232
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Piracy of software
Keywords: Theft
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:46:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: harvee.H.ea.fzu4y58UF0Y
	<1992Dec10.171254.23031@nosc.mil> <BzB7yM.9u0@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
	<1685@tekgen.bv.tek.com> <1gm1j5INN1dsn@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>
Reply-To: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <1gm1j5INN1dsn@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE>, Jan T. Kim writes:
>In <1685@tekgen.bv.tek.com> boblu@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Robert Luneski) writes:
[... edited ...]
>>You tell that to my son when I can't buy him shoes because software sales are
>>down and then I get calls for product support from three times the number of
>>users than can be accounted for by legal sales.  You would be surprised how
>>many unique stories people come up with for why they don't know there
>>registration number AND never sent in their card AND can't find their manual 
>>AND lost their orginal disk.
>
>shoes had you recognized that this situation  you  describe  does
>indeed  most  strongly  encourage  to  switch  from  charging for
>copyrights to charging for  support.  If  the  number  of  people
>calling  for  support is already three times the number of people
>who bought that software, imagine how many more must  already  be
>out  there,  illegally  using  it and not daring to call you. And
>then, imagine how that number could yet be increased by  actually
>allowing  people  to  freely  copy  that  stuff,  i.e.  making it
>copylefted. 

I would like to renforce jan's point about charging for support.  when you 
talk to a person using your software, you are loosing money.  A single
long winded person (like me) can drain your time (and therefore money)
away from developing new products and improving the old.  It may sound 
hard hearted but I believe you should sell your support time like a lawyer
or a doctor sells theirs.  with every product sale, sell X hours of suport.  
if a person calls with an unregistered product, start the clock right away.  
be polite but firm about selling your time.

any coder can clone your product (sooner or later) so protect your items 
of real value (e.g. your time and knowledge)

I would like to make another point about decieding to purchase software.
I never buy anything without living with it first.  you can correctly 
conclude that I have "pirated" software.  but be aware that if I find 
the sw useful, I buy it.  as a result, I use mostly shareware and very 
little commerical sw.  

For example, when I chose a backup utility, I ended up buying one called 
"GOOD backup utility".  I chose it because I was able to live with it for 
a while and find out if its limitations were something I could put up with.

--- eric
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From: raju@inso.pr.net.ch (Raju Varghese)
Subject: Seeking help from UltraScript users
Summary: Do you have any bug-fixes for UltraScript?
Keywords: UltraScript, SLM804
Organization: IntelliSoft, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:52:31 GMT

I bought UltraScript in the hope that all my PostScript needs will be
satisfied. It works most of the time but occasionally it just crashes
on bits of postscipt like " ... variable 1 sub ..." or it complaims
that the current point is not set. Before I print with UltraScript
I try it out on 'pageview' on a Sun and fix all the postscipt errors
there. Hence, it cannot be an error in my postscipt code.

The version of UltraScript I've got is 
   Version 9.1 from 88/08/09 17:17:56.

As Imagen does not support the product anymore is there anyway I can
get it to work. Do any of you have bug-fixes or later versions? I can
prove that I have a legal copy of UltraScript if that is necessary.

Thanks.

Raju   raju@inso.pr.net.ch
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Christmas Demos
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:39:06 GMT
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Andrew Oakley (evilandi@vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
:    Are there any good festive demos available? I'm after something with
: animation, music and, most importantly, a Christmas theme. Opinions and
: reviews welcome- but I also want to know where I can get it from!
: 
: Andrew Oakley                                      *
: IBM Warwick, UK (I speak FROM IBM, not FOR IBM)    A
: -----------------------------------------------   /o\
: INTERNET: <evilandi@vnet.ibm.com>                /o o\
: JANET:    <evilandi@com.ibm.vnet>               /o o o\
: ----------------------------------------------- ""_|_""
:                               Have a cool yule.   \_/

If you're a nice guy and I feel like it, I could make one during the xmas...8)
If you want to cheer me up, send me a modem, so that I can connect to internet
in the holidays...

===============================================================================
Gard Eggesboe Abrahamsen                              PO Box 5061, Larsgaarden,
gard.abrahamsen@mrih.no             o O                  6021 Aalesund, Norway
gardabr@unix1.mrih.no              =( )=             Postal giro: 0825 0488697
ga@samson.mrih.no                    U         Date of birth: August 19th 1973
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: FRACYON@dirac.physics.jmu.edu (Ali Fracyon)
Subject: Re: A1200
Organization: JMU Physics Dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:27:22 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Dec14.232414.23996@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk writes:

> Apparently CBMs answer to the Falcon, the A1200 is now available in the
> UK.  The most likely release date for the Falcon would seem to be February.
>   Its not all bad news though, looking through comp.sys.amiga.hardware reveals
> that the A1200s are being shipped without half the manuals, without the
> promised adaptor to use VGA monitors, without any hardware clock (apparently
> all the official documentation claiming that there is one on the A1200 is
> is wrong.), the sound output level is so high that it distorts unless you put
> a resisitor across it and there are serious problems with the TV modulator.
>   As one Amiga person put it:
> 
> "Commodore has released a new machine one month before Christmas to try to
> sell as many as possible, but they were really NOT READY to launch it."
> 
> - Leo.


And don't forget the A4000s with their fans being put in backwards.

...wait a minute, I own an Amiga, I should be defending them...

All good companies do it.  My friend just bought a HP that has the place of
its '(' ')' and '{' '}' and maybe '[' ']' keys switched.

C= has always had problems with missing chips or loose chips in their
computers.  The official explanation was that their was a bumb outside
of one of their main warehouses and truck drivers that drove too fast
over this bumb knocked the chips out.  See, it can be explained.  Really.
  
Ali Fracyon
Temperstorm, June '92, Compute's AmigaResource
The Fly, October '92, Compute's AmigaResource

-My views only; not MDI's; not JMU's.  -Congratulations Finland. 75 years!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ens@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: Re: Piracy of software
Keywords: Theft
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:22:01 GMT

In <1685@tekgen.bv.tek.com> boblu@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Robert Luneski) writes:

>In article <BzB7yM.9u0@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ens@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
>>Software piracy is decidedly a grey area. Tom is far too poor

>Bull. There is nothing "grey" about software piracy.  Piracy is a euphamism
>for theft. 

Piracy is not a euphemism; it _means_ theft.

>If you use software that you have not legally obtained a license
>for use then you have stolen it. Period. Nothing grey about it!

This is true. There is no grey area in a legal sense. But in a moral
sense, it is different than stealing TVs. When I was a student, pay TV
in my city was easy to pirate with a simple notch filter, and I blush
to admit that I was guilty. I rationalized it the same way software
pirates do: I would never have subscribed anyway.  In the last 5+
years, pay TV has been far more complicated to pirate, and I have done
without, and I am not even tempted to subscribe in spite of increased
affluence. What did the cable company lose on me?  I'm not suggesting
that all copyright pirates would not have otherwise bought the
product. But the fraction that would have is much less than 1; hence
the grey area.

>>I have seen this scenario play out many times. It's illegal, yes.
>>But as bad as stealing 6 TVs? Get serious.

>You tell that to my son when I can't buy him shoes because software sales are
>down and then I get calls for product support from three times the number of
>users than can be accounted for by legal sales.  You would be surprised how
>many unique stories people come up with for why they don't know there
>registration number AND never sent in their card AND can't find their manual 
>AND lost their orginal disk.

I'm sorry about your son's feet, but he would not be any better shod
if the pirates deleted your software, but did not buy legit copies.

>It happens, it's real, it's illegal, and it is killing ST developers.

Or is it the reason ST still has developers? That's a bit extreme,
but it's difficult to prove that the impact of piracy is entirely
negative.

Werner
From: Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk (Craig Graham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Multi-User System on ST
Keywords: MiNT, Multi-User
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:56:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


I have just installed a small network (really just 3 computers at the moment, but
more to come) running the experimental MiNT multi-user package.

It is really very impressive, even with the server running on an ordinary run of
the mill 1 Meg ST. You can log multiple user's in and they can run several 
programs without the main console slowing down to much. Talking between terminals
is possible, and groups/access restriction is supported. Amazing, it's just like
using a Unix system (and I really mean that, I used the Unix documentation to set
up the system properly!!!).

Sorry, but this is dead dead good & I had to tell the world.......

& MY PC OWNING FRIENDS ARE DEAD DEAD JEALOUS!!!

Craig Graham.     /\  E-mail:Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk
BAe Space Systems ||  Phone : (UK) 091 2737650
Stevenage,England.||  Snail-mail: 38 Brighton Grove, Fenham, Newcastle, England.
-----------------/__\-----------------------------------------------------------
  SPACE the final^^^^frontier. Seen it,done it,read the book,got the T-shirt....
From: mppi76@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Schoenfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: HELP! MidiNet
Summary: Help needed for MidiNet
Keywords: Midi, Net
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:24:24 GMT
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de

Some weeks ago I got a quite old Version of MidiNet via ftp. Now I tried
to connect 2 ST(e)s with the program, but I think it does not work
correctly:

Only the host number 0 can access the drives of the other computer, but
host number 1 can't access the drives of host 0. I don't think this
is "normal". 

Does anybody know how to get MidiNet work in both directions? Does anybody
know where to get a newer version than V1.00 (1987). Or does anybody
have some more information about MidiNet?

I hope someone can help! Connecting our ST's here at our university
without any costs would give a new boost for ST's against PC :-)

-- 
Harald Schoenfeld (hs@cnve.rrze.uni-erlangen.dbp.de)
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 10:44:07 EST
From: <EENG6826@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: opinion on '3D construction kit' wanted

I think you're looking for something called ZZ Volume. Its a French
program that lets you construct buildings and walk through them.
I don't know what you can design with the program because I've only
seen some pictures.

Carlos Varela
From: qsi@contrast.wlink.nl (Peter Kocourek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: RE: What I would do if I was running Atari...
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:08:31

steve wells wrote in a message on 11 Dec 92 to All

 SW> Atari Explorer On-Line, and Z*NET Online Mag' - are both a 
 SW> LOT more positive than ST-Report, the only even slightly good 
 SW> news ST-Report publishes, is what it swipes from elsewhere, 
 SW> rather than making it themselves.

I've given up on reading AEO and Z*NET (I don't read STR either, BTW),
because it seemed they were written with the same critical attitude to
Atari that a North Korean newspaper has to Kim Il Sung. There is good news
and bad news about any given subject in general, including Atari. But the
AEO's sycophantic drooling made me sick.


YHS:QSI!
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Email... Internet > GEnie .. how?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:36:24 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec16.173241.3324@newshost.lanl.gov>

On the other hand, the 2-way link between CompuServe and the
Internet works flawlessly, and the recipient doesn't have to
go through anything special to receive mail, nor pay any extra
fees..
 
To send mail to a CompuServe account, you use the address form:
 
To:  70004.4640@compuserve.com
 
That address, for example, will let you send email to the
publishers of Atari Interface magazine via CIS.  They can easily
reply directly to your Internet address from CIS.

You would of course, need to know the CIS account number of the
recipient, and substitute it in the example.
 
A few account numbers that might be of interest to the newsgroup:

Bob Brodie: 70007.3240
Dan McNamee: 70007.5166
John Townsend: 70007.1135
John Patton (Atari Developer Support): 70007.1072


BobR
From: aj341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Doggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Ka9Q
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:08:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Doggett)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Anyone know a newer version of ka9q with slfp support? I have one from
87
All help would be appreciated ;)
From: gt1448b@prism.gatech.EDU (David P. Forrai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: accelerators
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:13:46 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <61649@aurs01.UUCP> whitcomb@aurxc3.aur.alcatel.com.UUCP
(Jonathan Whitcomb) writes regarding ICD AdSpeed ST:

>Installation involves de-soldering your existing CPU and soldering in a
>socket for the daughterboard.  You also have to solder in a jumper wire
>if you have a Mega ST.  The daughterboard even has circuitry that
>duplicates the functionality of the existing Mega daughterboard.  Then
>it's just plug 'n' play.  It took me about an hour.

Istallation on certain 1040 ST motherboards is not as simple as
following the instructions with AdSpeed.  I found this out the hard
way.  If your 1040 motherboard has the 68000 underneath the keyboard
AdSpeed will fit ONLY if you do not use the socket and solder AdSpeed
directly to the motherboard.  You will also need to cut a hole in your
RF shield above the AdSpeed (or remove the RF shield altogether).  By
doing this I have about 1 mm clearance between the keyboard and the
AdSpeed.

It took me several phone calls to ICD before the ST "support" person
(Howard) finally connected me to the customer service rep. (Wendy).
He informed me what needed to be done on the first call, but I wanted
ICD to do the fix since it was an error in their installation guide.
Wendy was agreeable to my request however all Howard seemed to want to
-- 
David P. Forrai
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