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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: JUDO: M's Heavyweight Finals & Semi-Finals
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:07:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.220847.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift) writes:
> JUDO - Men's Heavyweight FINALS
> ===============================
>  
> 
> FINAL:
> ------
> KHAKHALEICHHVILI, David		EUN	Gold
> 	defeated
> OGAWA, Naoya			JPN	Silver
> 	by waza-ari-awasete-ippon (throw).
> 
> 
> SEMI-FINALS:
> ------------
> KHAKHALEICHVILI, David		EUN
> 	defeated
> CSOSZ, Imre			HUN
> 	by waza-ari (throw).
> 
> OGAWA, Naoya			JPN
> 	defeated
> DOUILLET, David			FRA
> 	by waza-ari-awasete-ippon (throw).
> 
> ** Results complete **
>  

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From: asrini@sanjuan (Anand Srinivasan)
Subject: Re: A trivial question about Summer Olympics trivia quiz #2
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 06:57:16 GMT

In article <11120@cis.rand.org> Rodger_Madison@rand.ORG (Rodger Madison) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.170541.9355@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, roderick@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Brett Roderick) writes:
>
>> 6.  At the first Olympic Games in Athens, 1896, there were 295 competitors
>>     from _______ nations.
>
>			      C. 17

Does anybody know who those seventeen were? just curious...

AS.........
From: carson@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: NBC DIVING COMMENTARY:ABSURD
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:43:09 GMT
Reply-To: carson@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Jul30.114113.9060@uoft02.utoledo.edu>,
rbhaska@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
|> 
|> 	During the mens springboard diving competition yesterday (29 jul)
|> a comment was made by the woman commentrator on NBC (i forget her
name),
|> referring to the Chinese diver who finished second.
|> 
|> 	During one of his dives she said :"He is the most WESTERNIZED 
|> among the chinese (or other divers i dont know) divers ; HE LAUGHS
|> AND SMILES A LOT"
|> 
|> 	In my view i cannot make sense of the necessity of this comment;
|> leave alone its offensiveness to some part of the human race.  I
think
|> that most sensible people who have a reasonably good knowledge of
the
|> behaviour of athletes of nations other than the USA,  will disregard
this
|> comment as either
|> 
|> 1. utterly foolish.
|> 2. not worth considering since the speaker must have lived in her
own
|>    well.
|> 3. she must be kidding.
|> 4. .......
|> 

	And the answer is................... NUMBER ONE!
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: MEDAL COUNT: July 26 13: 30GMT
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 12:32:44 GMT

CURRENT TOP FIVE MEDAL TALLY  (27 medals to be determined by today)
============================

				G	S	B

Germany		GER		1	0	0
Korea		KOR		1	0	0
Bulgaria	BUL		0	1	0
Italy		ITA		0	1	0
France		FRA		0	0	1


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From: carson@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: NBC DIVING COMMENTARY:ABSURD
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:21:29 GMT
Reply-To: carson@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <Bs7yvD.KLv@cgl.ucsf.edu>, brianc@jekyll.ucsf.edu (Brian
Colfer) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul30.141414.9061@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
ncoppis@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
|> >I completeley agree that the woman commentrator for diving was
|> >such an incompetent .......... that it was disgusting to watch as 
|> >she passed derogatory comments on the Chinese divers. 
|> 
|> Yeah OK so her social commentary was unecessary... and even though I
|> don't know anything about diving I thought her diving commentary was
|> interesting and I could start seeing what the judges would look for
in
|> a dive.  I started to predict the scores before anyone would say
|> anything... and I was starting to come pretty close to the average
|> score per dive.  When she talks about diving itself I think she is
|> very competent.
|> 

	Hallelujah!
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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics,rec.sport.basketball.pro,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.basketball.misc,rec.sport.basketball
Subject: Re: RESULTS: Basketball (Day 3): scores by halves USA-GER
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:50:41 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

|> Frankly, the coverage of the men's basketball games are starting to really,
|> really suck. NBC Primetime coverage pulled away after about 10+ mins left
|> in the first half. Sometimes one of the sports radio stations will cover
|> the game, but the local executives at the station also have decided not to
|> cover the games once 3PM ET comes around and it's a blowout.

Don't you have TV Cable in your area?  Here, in Fairfax County in Virginia
(in the Washington, D.C., area), our cable company (Media General) is 
broadcasting the Olympic events on three cable channels; I can watch 
the events live on TV on these channels for two weeks for $125.  No 
commercials, breaks, etc.  It is really great!  I have been taping all 
USA basketball games while I'm at work during the days and watching 
them when I'm at home in the evenings.


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From: douge@tigger.tymnet.com (Doug Ellenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Cricket in the Olympics
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:16:05 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Jul28.205320.14639@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> rajah@soda.berkeley.edu (Raja S Kushalnagar) writes:
>
>Anyone know if there has been any active bidding for getting cricket
>included in the Olympics, and if so, when could we expect it to be
>included? 2000 AD?
>
I heard cricket WAS an Olympic event and was removed.  Just coming
back from 2 weeks in the UK and watching a spot of cricket on the
telly I can say in my opinion, if they can't reduce it from days to
hours it will never be back.

Doug.
 


douge@antares.tymnet.com
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From: gletty@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Gletty)
Subject: Re: Doping rumor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:15:59 GMT

f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{) writes:

>gletty@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Gletty) writes:

>>My main question about stories like this is:
>>If he actually saw the athlete take steroids, why did he not report it 
>>immediately?? Why does he not name names?? 

>Johnny Gray actually stated that the athlete taking steroids was somebody
>who won a gold medal in Seoul 1988. Nobody knows if he's telling the truth
>or just trying to attract attention to himself.

>Imagine if somebody really came with a list of athletes taking steroids.
>What would be the consequences to this "brave souls"? Dozens of court
>cases demanding compensation for discrediting fellow athletes. It's safer
>to be vague though a lot less reliable in the eyes of the public.

And a lot less likely to solve the problem.

>If anybody suggests that doping isn't a problem in international track
>and field, he's either lying or blind-folded. It's not the responsibility
>of a single athlete to control other athletes' steroid use. IAAF should
>take harder measures to fight doping. 

I wasn't suggesting that drugs are not a problem, I think they are a big
problem, and will get bigger as the amount of money in track and field gets
bigger. However, I get tired of vague statements and rumors. If someone
actually sees drug takeing and does not come forward with names, they become
part of the problem as well. The enforcement bodies cannot be everywhere
at once, and until the athletes start helping, the problem will not have
the slightest chance of being solved.

>I really wanted to know if someone had more information about Johnny Gray's
>statement. I'm sorry if it made Bruce Gletty angry.

Not angry, curious as to why someone with real evidence doesn't present it.
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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Speed scores Re: Volleyball complaints
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:03:39 GMT

In article 17135@uwm.edu, bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu (Bruno Wolff III) writes:
>From article <1992Jul28.200743.4872@alw.nih.gov>, by etchuck@helix.nih.gov (Emil Thomas Chuck):
>> riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) writes:
>> :While watching the US-Japan volleyball game, I noticed a couple
>> :of things that bothered me (they are not related to the officiating).
>> : ... 
>> :Now, my main complaint - "Speed-scoring" in the fifth set.  Instead
>> :of only scoring points when you are serving, a point is awarded on
>> :every serve.  This forces teams to abruptly change their approach
>> :in the fifth set.  For example, you can't afford to take a chance on 
>> :a jump serve, because if you don't get the serve in, the other team
>> :gets a point.  If two teams have fought each other even through four
>
>We had this discussion a while back. Rally scoring should have little effect
>on how you play. The main affect of rally scoring is to shorten the game.
>Because of the shorter game you may change some things around. For instance
>you can be more liberal with your substitutions.


Au contrair, in a regular match, the attacking philosophy of most teams are different
depending on the situation.  If you are facing a sideout, there is nothing to gain by running a quick, mainly becuase quicks are low percentage and risky, and if you mess up, you lose a point.  On sideouts, most teams will play it pretty close to the vest, play the high percentage shots.  Now, if you are serving, the philosophy is to attack and be aggressive because you only lose serve and not points, so you try things to throw the opponent off balance.  In rally point scoring, all that gets thrown out, an


d
different mind set and strategies need to be applied because every attack is a point.  The teams tend to be more conservative on offense.
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From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: Bob Costas and NBC commentators
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:44:02 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Jul29.043638.4185@tamsun.tamu.edu> rgd3729@tamsun.tamu.edu (Greg Dilworth) writes:
>In article <Bs4nKI.KzD@cs.psu.edu> flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee) writes:
>
>I must also admit that they focused on the US team to the exclusion of
>almost everyone else with the exception of Boginskaya from the Unified
>Team.  But, let's be realistic here, what more do you expect?

The NBC needs to understand that there is more than one team competing(:-)) in
the olympics. Even when the U.S wins it doesn't win all by itself, but it wins
over the other teams. 
It would be much more fun to watch how they win, rather than that they won. 
The U.S athletes are not winning by just looking at themselves in the mirror.
They are competing with other teams and it would nice if they can show 
a more complete picture.

>
>Enjoy the rest of the games.
>
>Greg
>
Ramakrishna


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From: lizb@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Liz Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Address of Olympic Village in Barcelona?
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:26:42 GMT
Reply-To: lizb@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Distribution: rec
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
In-reply-to: sn@vrmeer.uvo.dec.com's message of 21 Jul 92 18:26:52 GMT

Steve Nairn asks:

> Does anyone know the mail address of the olympic village in Barcelona?
> I would very much like to get in touch with some friends of mine in the
> Australian olympic hockey teams

Here's the address for the rowing/canoe/kayak village:

[name]/[sport]
[country] Olympic Team
Villa de Banyoles
Espanola 08092
Barcelona, Spain.

I don't know which teams are staying at which villages or how far
apart they are, but the mail will probably get transferred properly
even if the Aussie hockey team is elsewhere.  Good luck.

Liz Bradley 
MIT AI Lab

P.S. At the 1988 Olympics, the organizers had set up a rudimentary
inter-athlete email system in the main (Seoul) village.  Was quite
amusing watching the US boxers trying to figure it out...remember the
infamous missed busses?  :-) It would be great if the same were true
in Barcelona - and if it were an internet node as well.
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: USA soccer team
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <92206.095032JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> JGARLITZ@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>Does anybody out there have an opinion on the chances of the US soccer team
>placing in the top 3 at the Olympics?  I have heard any information on the
>status about them.  Do they have the same German coach and players that will
>compete for the World Cup?  If so, I believe the US may have a good chance
>to get a medal.
>
Well, they lost 2-1 to Italy in their opening game today, which I
guess was a pretty respectable result given that Italy won the
European U21 Championship (the qualifying championship for European
teams). The Olympic competition is U23 only, so the US team contains
few regular members of the full International team.

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From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: TripleCast Update
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 02:50:32 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Jul24.212039.29442@tfs.com> tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon) writes:
>In article <BrsxA0.IDH@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> gletty@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Gletty) writes:
>>Actually the USA was one of a very small number of countries (2 or 3) to
>>vote AGAINST allowing the NBA players into the olympics. The rest of the
>>world WANTS the NBA in the olympics. Originally our college players did
>That doesn't make sense. No other countries "vote" on how each of the USA
>National Governing Bodies (NGBs) run their sport. 

No, no. You mis-understood. The vote was to allow professional players to
participate in Olympic basketball. The US voted against that. This vote meant
that professional players from Italy, or Brazil or whereever could (can) now
participate in the Olympic basketball competition.

The NGB's still can run their individual sports however they want :)

r.
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Shaved heads/ CANADA RESULT
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:30:01 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul29.104100.7945@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

|> Yes, 23-0.  I do believe US had a representative... (abstained?)

Nope. The United States had no representative. 

|> Well, in Japan (at least), shaving one's head is an act of expressing
|> remorse or apology (an olympic wrestling team coach did this when his
|> boys didn't meet the expectations) ---
|> hope they'll not be passing the wrong message.

Yeah, sticking a sword through one's gut when dishonoured is the way to go.
Boy, we sure can learn alot. Do you guys offer courtesy lessons
(Hara-kiri 101).

Jason W. Solinsky
(An absolute Nationalist without a dash of Olympic spirit)
From: rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless)
Subject: Re: Where to get news ?
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:55:15 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT

In article <92208.173219U21885@uicvm.uic.edu> U21885@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>
> Is there anyone who know where to get latest olympics news in the net.
> Please tell me what group to get this kind news.
>Thank Advanced.

You have two choices that I know of.  One, you can read this network -
we have 22 people who have volunteered to post the results for the 28
sports, pretty much as soon as they get the news.  Some have almost
immediate access, some have to wait for the next day's papers.

If your site has Clari newsgroups, you can check out
clari.sports.olympic.  This has articles written by UPI (United Press
International) that come out within 2-3 hours after the event is over.

Rachele

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From: ahmeda@gtephx.UUCP (Aftab Ahmed)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:44:22 GMT

In article <1652@hsdndev.UUCP>, nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes:
> In article <1992Jul24.151946.14687@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stanm@comm.mot.com writes:
> >
> >IMO, Bob Costas may be the best reason to watch NBC coverage. So, don't
> 
> I have to agree with Stan a 100%. Costas won't put you to sleep and keep

I also agree with it about Bob Costas, He seemed to have done a lot of homework
for the opening ceremony. OTOH Wall Street Journal (07/25/92) did not like his
trivia about other nations during the parade. But what can you expect from the 
paper which printed that in Men's field hockey, North Korea defeated Malaysia by 4-1?

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From: rorem@lclark.edu (Eric Rorem)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Shame on Wendy Lian Williams
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:54:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Jul30.225442.24730
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <790@tdat.teradata.COM> David.Lai@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (David Lai) writes:
>During yesterday's NBC coverage of men's springboard diving, Tang Liangde
>of China did not do as well as he usually does on one dive.  Wendy Lian
>Williams, the NBC commentator, said something like the following (not the
>exact quote):
>
>  I am surprised that he didn't do well under pressure.  Among all
>  Chinese divers, he is the most westernized.  He smiles, waves...
>
>What kind of culture stereotype is this?


sorry, but i have to throw in my two cents here.  did anyone notice how most 
of the chinese divers were acting.  they seemed much less expressive than the
western divers on average.  

i've had problems with this type of thing before.  her comment doesn't have
to be interpreted as a stereotype of the chinese culture.  why couldn't she
be refering to the chinese DIVERS?  if looked at in this context, her
comment might be awkward but truthful.

i live around students from many different cultures and countries.  i use 
alot of generalizations (NOT STEREOTYPES).  i know from experience that the
male korean students who come to my school GENERALLY don't feel comfortable 
around american students.  so i make a point to talk to the korean guys.  
if they turn out to be extroverted, GREAT.  if not, i've probably done better
with them than i would have without the generalization.  

anyways,
eric

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