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From: blair@obdient.chi.il.us (Doug Blair)
Newsgroups: alt.planning.urban,misc.education
Subject: Prof. Lachlan F. Blair, U of Ill
Keywords: Celebrate!
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:47:40 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Obedient Software, Wheaton IL

A persomal note which you may find of interest....

Many of you in the Urban Planning community will know Professor 
Lachlan F. Blair of the University of Illinois, and formerly of
the pioneering firm Blair Associates of Providence, Rhode Island.
Blair now heads The Urbana Group, a consulting and planning enterprise
in (oddly enough) Urbana, Illinois.

Chances are if you participated in the planning program at the U of I
between 1965-1988 you had the honor of sitting in Lock Blair's UP171
lecture and were treated to an enormous collection of slides and puns,
most of which (in particular the puns) have become permanant additions
to the University.

Lock and Mary blair will celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary on
December 12, 1992.  As their son (and only unplanned event) I know that
besides each other nothing has given them greater pleasure over the
years than to share in the success and adventure of their many students
and colleagues.  If you are one of these would you please take a moment
to write a short note to the Blairs and let them know how things are
going in your town these days?  Any reminisces or congratulations you
care to add would of course be appropriate.

We would like to collect letters over the next couple of weeks for
presentation at a small family dinner on December 5.  You may send a letter
to me electronically at the address below or by replying to this
article.  I will format and print your electronic reply beautifully 
in a foolish attempt to justify the new laser printer :-).  You may also
send paper mail to the address below, or directly to the Blair house
at 506 West Illinois St, Urbana IL 61801.

Please feel free to forward this request to anyone in the field who may
have attended the U of I planning program.

Thanks,

--
Doug Blair (son), Meredith, Alison & Jon Blair (grandkids)
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|   || |_  ___  _| ||_| ___  __  _| |_  Doug Blair     blair@obdient.chi.il.us
| | ||  .\/ ._\/.  || |/ ._\|  \|_   _| 200 East Fifth Avenue #352
|___||___/\___/\___||_|\___/|_|_| |_|   Naperville, Illinois 60563

Newsgroups: alt.planning.urban
From: "kim lambert" <kim.lambert@canrem.com>
Subject: Urban Planning Models
Reply-To: "kim lambert" <kim.lambert@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:28:06 EST


This is a query of all of you.  I'm on a small committee trying to
project changes in a large rural area, based on the interaction of a
lot of factors - including large influxes of seasonal residents.  We're
wondering if there are, or if any of you are familiar with, quantitative
data based models for urban planning, especially for small communities,
that allow for such fluctuations.  We're interested in a computerized
model that can be adjusted and updated periodically.  Any help or
suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  Take care....

Kim ... Menominee Lake, Muskoka  10:26pm   11-17-92Internet: kim.lambert@canrem.com || FIDO: 1:252/214
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Newsgroups: alt.planning.urban
From: dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: FAQ (was Re: Traffic control schemes)
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:43:40 GMT

s.budd@cc.ic.ac.uk (Mr S. Budd) writes:

:  I am new to this newsgroup.
:  There are really two questions I would like to ask.
: 
:  1. I wonder if there is a faq?

Not really ... a long time ago I thought about write one, but I didn't know how  
to approach it.  I know about Planning in the United States, but some of the  
concepts of zoning, aesthetic control and land use that may seem normal here,  
but are radically different than what is used in the other parts of the world. 

I would like to see an FAQ started as part of general discussion on this group.     
As an example, I would like to know if Australian cities have zoning.   
Development patterns in Australian cities are remarkably similar to thise in  
American cities, particularly California, but how it it controlled?  Do Aussie  
cities have subdivision, landscaping, sign and other ordinances as planning  
tools?  I don't know, because it's something that we never learned in school,  
and Australian planning literature is somewhat rare around these parts.

How about an FAQ ... should it be aimed at the planning professional, a  
planning student or your average Joe who wants to know why the streets in his  
town are laid out in a perceivably random pattern? (the most frequently asked  
question I get at parties, besides "what does a city/town planner do?).  

Following are suggested questions for an FAQ, based on questions I get asked  
overy frequently.  Please remember that these are based on my experiences as a  
planner in the United States, and that planning methods, tools and urban  
concerns and problems are different all around the world.

* What does a city/town planner do?
* Why are the streets in my town laid out so funny?
* What is zoning?
* How does Houston regulate land use without zoning?  Do glue factories and                            
refineries really locate next to $200,000 homes?
* Why are suburban streets laid out in a winding pattern while streets in the  
city are laid out in a grid?
* How are street addresses determined?
* Why does [city X] have huge, high business signs, while signs in [city y] are  
all low and down on the ground?
* What causes a traffic jam?
* Why don't Americans use public transit as frequently as Europeans?
 
--
   Dan Tasman                                       dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu
                                                     molson@rever.nmsu.edu
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   "I think that I shall never see a billboard lovely as a tree
    Indeed, unless the billboards fall, I'll never see a tree at all."
                                                                Ogden Nash
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: Kenneth R. Brownsberger <brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu>
Subject: Oops
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A731440E66018C51@wcstar.colorado.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20: 15:58 GMT
Organization: JILA
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:16:21 GMT

Sorry 'bout that...  My News program assured me that my first three
posting
attempts had failed.  I apologize.   - Ken
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 Kenneth R. Brownsberger                 Ph# (303) 492 - 5122
 JILA - University of Colorado           FAX (303) 492 - 5235
 Campus Box 440            
 Boulder, CO 80309-0440                  brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.wolves,rec.pets.dogs
From: iguana@nmt.edu (Shawn Clever)
Subject: Unhealthy Wolf-hybrid  Help?
Keywords: help?
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:06:37 GMT


I have a wolf-hybrid (no flames please) and a mutt that are regular members
of our family.  About 8 months ago, they contracted Cocxydia (sp?) a micro-
scopic parasite that attacks the intestinal system.  This is a variant of the
same micororganizm that almost wiped out the black-footed ferret population,
I believe... Anyways, the dogs have been treated with antibiotics and sulfur
drugs, Primor 120 and Sulfatrim SS to mention a couple of them, to help them
kick the parasitic infection.  

The mutt built up an immunity ot the Cocxydia and is now healthy and fine.
The wolf, on the other hand, has suffered since the onset, and although the
Sulfatrim SS does an excellent job of curbing the spread of the microorganizm,
it does not offer a long term cure since the wolf can't seem to build up an
immunity like the mutt could.  As near as we can tell the infection came from 
a tangle with some geese that a neighbor had.  

The sulfatrim ss tabs keep the wolf reasonably healthy and happy, but I am 
looking for a solution to the problem altogether.  I have checked with two 
vets locally, and they are having difficulties with the treatment.  Has anyone
out there, experienced this problem with their wolf hybrid or dog and/or knows
something more about this microorganizm that would help me find a solution?


Thank you for your help.


Shawn Clever
(iguana@jupiter.nmt.edu)
From: dhoward@doffice.Corp.Sun.COM (Dave Howard)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: Aerial Wolf Hunting in Alaska
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:10:11 GMT
Reply-To: dhoward@doffice.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: doffice.corp.sun.com

In article 9143@ucsu.Colorado.EDU, Kenneth R. Brownsberger <brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu> () writes:
>I've heard a rumor that aerial wolf hunts are scheduled to begin
>again soon in Alaska ... the justification being the usual tripe about
>trying to increase the Moose and Caribou populations by removing
>their natural predators.  Does anyone have any hard FACTS on this?
>Is this rumor true?  Who is responsible for this decision?
>
>Answer via e-mail or posting...        Thanks.  Ken B.
>
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> Kenneth R. Brownsberger                 Ph# (303) 492 - 5122
> JILA - University of Colorado           FAX (303) 492 - 5235
> Campus Box 440            
> Boulder, CO 80309-0440                  brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu
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I read the same story in the NY times today.  A friend called the Sierra
Club, they said to write the govenor:

        Gov. Walter J. Hickel
	P.O. Box A
	Juneau, AK   99811

I wrote a strongly worded note stating I would boycott any tourist 
travel to his state if he went through with this.  Perhaps a flood
of these letters will help... who knows.

-Dave

 
Newsgroups: alt.wolves,rec.backcountry,talk.environment,sci.environment
From: fsjes3@ix.acf-lab.alaska.edu 
Subject: Wolf Hunting in Alaska
Reply-To: fsjes3@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:21:32 GMT

I know! Lets put all the hunters and crazy game officials in the tundra  
 
and then shoot _them_ down from helicopters!!! Geee, then we won't need to boost the game populations to unnatural levels because there won't be so many trigger happy psychos to push such an absurd action.

While I don't really mind the hunting of game animals like this, as long  
as a species is not endangered or the population affected too unnaturaly, I think that this is disgusting. Apparently the state of Alaska thinks that they can play God to their own wilderness simply for the pleasure of their own hunters and for the hopes of a bigger hunting tourist income. The whole thing makes me want to puke. They want the wolf population to be decreased to 20% what it is now, with the excuse that 'well, they seem to rebound very well'. Excuse me, but it seems like wolf populations are k




ept healthy not only by a plentiful food source, but by natural selection. Only the strong survive in the wilderness. If we have a bunch of men with guns randomly killing 80 percent of the wolf population, we suddenly don't have natural selection anymore, and the species could be severely weakened. Imagine what would have happened to the world if God decided 80% of the population just had to go. What if in that 80% had been all the Einsteins, Bachs, Michelangelos, DaVincis, etc.? I think you get the pictur




e. Ok, enough of my soapbox.
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: Wolf studies in Grad School
From: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:42:00 GMT
Reply-To: soswald@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Nov13.231947.3968@wkuvx1.bitnet>, pierccm@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <1ds20uINN8l0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jef9@po.CWRU.Edu (Joseph E. Faber) writes:
>> 
>> You are not going to find too many grad schools with programs
>> in wolf biology. You will probably not find too many jobs as a
>> "wolf biologist" either.
>
>Yea, I was hoping for a degree in "Playing with Wolves".  8-)
>
>Seriously though, I wanted to thank everyone for all the input.  I
>still have at least a year before I will be finished as an undergrad,
>but I figured that I should not wait until the last minute to look for
>a Grad School.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Chris
>pierccm@wkuvx1.bitnet

  I'm new to this list, so please forgive my fumbling until I get more adept!

I would like to correct a mis-assumption that was posted to an earlier message.  
In that message that wolves and weasels kill for fun or something similiar. 
There has been some research done on this subject and the conclusion so far is
that the wolves instincts appear to get short-circuited(?)  when they encounter  
food that doesn't run away.  (Pens, fences, even when deer get snow locked in a
valley).  Since this isn't normal behavior for food, it triggers something in
their brains, hense the slaughter of fenced beef, sheep, etc.  

Sandy
soswald@charlie.usd.edu





Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: wolf@netcom.com (Wolf Logan)
Subject: Alaska Wolf Hunts
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:46:46 GMT

First, the straight poop:

The Alaska Board of Game has decided to begin aerial shooting of wolves
in a large portion of the Alaska wilderness.  The decision was prompted,
apparently, by a desire to inflate the moose and caribou populations.

Next, the editorial:

The decision was ultimately prompted by a desire to increase tourism
and game hunting in Alaska.  David Kelleyhouse, of the Alaska Division
of Wildlife Conservation, says "We feel we are going to create a wildlife
spectacle on a par with the major migrations in East Africa.  Mom and
pop from Syracuse can come up here and see something that they can't
see anywhere else on earth."  Kelleyhouse also said that although
there are no real shortages of big-game animals in Alaska, the decision
is an attempt to make it easier for hunters to kill moose and caribou.

Randy Smith, director of the Alaska Outdoor Council, said that if the
state did not begin killing wolves it would take too long to build up
the moose and caribou herds.

Now, the information:

Senator Ted Stevens (R, Girdwood AK)
Phone (DC) 202-224-3004
Sits on the following committees:
Appropriations
Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Governmental Affairs
Rules and Administration
Small Business
Joint Committee on the Library
Joint Committee on Printing

Senator Frank Murkowski (R, Fairbanks AK)
Phone (DC) 202-224-6665
Sits on the following committees:
Energy and Natural Resources (!)
Foreign Relations
Veterans Affairs
Select Committee on Indian Affairs (!)
Select Committee on Intelligence

Gov. Walter Hickel
Phone (Juneau) 907-465-3500

Other numbers, including the office of the Alaska Division of Wildlife 
Conservation, should be available from Alaska information at 907-555-1212

Feel free to contact your own representatives, no matter where you are.
Although this is not a Federal issue, the Federal government does have
ways of exerting pressure on State governments.

We have to move on this, folkz.  They're going to start in with the
same kind of indiscriminate killing that wiped wolves out in Yellowstone.
Alaska and Minnesota are the only two states with viable wolf populations
remaining.  Alaska has but 7000 wolves statewide.  In some areas, the
arial killing would destroy 80 percent of the wolf population.  We can't
allow this to happen.

-- 
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| Wolf Logan                  wolf@netcom.com           "Aww, he's no fun...  |
| Buckskin Technologies       B4/7f+t+cdk++s+mr++p       he fell right over!" |
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Newsgroups: alt.wolves,rec.backcountry,talk.environment,sci.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Alaska Wolf Hunts
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Nov20.220651.24701@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
	<1992Nov21.083813.28945@raven.alaska.edu>
Date: 21 Nov 92 10:19:28

I don't think it is fair for someone from the University of Alaska
to be allowed to give that as a return address in arguing with
someone from the University of Georgia.  It should be a contest
of rhetorical skill, and claiming authority from having actually
seen the animals in question should be forbidden.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: Kenneth R. Brownsberger <brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu>
Subject: Aerial Wolf Hunting in Alaska
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A73140F9E2028C51@wcstar.colorado.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20: 02:49 GMT
Organization: JILA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:02:56 GMT

I've heard a rumor that aerial wolf hunts are scheduled to begin
again soon in Alaska ... the justification being the usual tripe about
trying to increase the Moose and Caribou populations by removing
their natural predators.  Does anyone have any hard FACTS on this?
Is this rumor true?  Who is responsible for this decision?

Answer via e-mail or posting...        Thanks.  Ken B.

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 Kenneth R. Brownsberger                 Ph# (303) 492 - 5122
 JILA - University of Colorado           FAX (303) 492 - 5235
 Campus Box 440            
 Boulder, CO 80309-0440                  brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: Kenneth R. Brownsberger <brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu>
Subject: Aerial Wolf Hunting in Alaska
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A73140B261018C51@wcstar.colorado.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20: 01:38 GMT
Organization: JILA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:01:50 GMT

I've heard a rumor that aerial wolf hunts are scheduled to begin
again soon in Alaska ... the justification being the usual tripe about
trying to increase the Moose and Caribou populations by removing
their natural predators.  Does anyone have any hard FACTS on this?
Is this rumor true?  Who is responsible for this decision?

Answer via e-mail or posting...        Thanks.  Ken B.

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 Kenneth R. Brownsberger                 Ph# (303) 492 - 5122
 JILA - University of Colorado           FAX (303) 492 - 5235
 Campus Box 440            
 Boulder, CO 80309-0440                  brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu
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Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:39:55 -0500 
From: Larry Lyle <ll24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Wolf store in Pa.

Heya,
	I heard that there is a wolf stor somewhere in Pa. where you can
purchace prints, statues and other collectables, somewhat akin to  the
Wolf Store out of Ca.    I was wondering if anyone knew where this store
was. I heard a radio advertisement for it once, and thern heard nothing
ore and never got the address.

Howl at you later,
De
The Lupophile

Lycanthrope@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: Kenneth R. Brownsberger <brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu>
Subject: Aerial Wolf Hunting in Alaska
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7314196E7048C51@wcstar.colorado.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 20: 05:26 GMT
Organization: JILA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:05:54 GMT

I've heard a rumor that aerial wolf hunts are scheduled to begin
again soon in Alaska ... the justification being the usual tripe about
trying to increase the Moose and Caribou populations by removing
their natural predators.  Does anyone have any hard FACTS on this?
Is this rumor true?  Who is responsible for this decision?

Answer via e-mail or posting...        Thanks.  Ken B.

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 Kenneth R. Brownsberger                 Ph# (303) 492 - 5122
 JILA - University of Colorado           FAX (303) 492 - 5235
 Campus Box 440            
 Boulder, CO 80309-0440                  brownsbe@ucsu.colorado.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.wolves
From: floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves,rec.backcountry,talk.environment,sci.environment
Subject: Re: Alaska Wolf Hunts
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:38:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: raven.1992Nov21.083813.28945
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network

In article <1992Nov20.220651.24701@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman) writes:
>The animals in the sections of Alaska which are to be affected 
>(the area between Anchorage and Fairbanks)  have a very low density
>naturally. This is becasue the weather is so cold, and vegetation is
>relatively scarce.  The land cannot support large concentrations of
>ungulates.   PERIOD! Predator's ranges in the area are huge compared to more
>hospitable areas.  I think wolf packs have ranges on the order of 
>150 sq miles...

Vegetation is *scarce*?  You must be kidding.

>For Kelleyhouse to suggest that they can produce a spectacle on the on the
>order of East Africa is ludicrus, they are two entirely different ecosystems.

Next time they run a PBS Nature program on caribou in Alaska, watch it.

>To suggest that they are doing it to attract sight sightseers is also 
>ridiculous...    They are doing it for one reason and one reason only: Money.

Well you may not know much about Alaska or moose or whatever, but you
sure got humans pegged correctly!  Money talks.  Thats what its all about.

>They want to be able to issue more hunting permits to out-of-state people for 
>big bucks.  (and also help out the outfitting industry) 

Big game guides are into big bucks too.  Hunting is big money all the
way around.

>If Alaska decides to kill off the wolves of South-Central Alaska... I will
>not return there. Though I LOVED it.    A boycott is the only way
>of getting back at the State Government.   

True fact.  Tourism is also a big business!

>BTW, the plan also mentions that they are going to kill an unspecified nunber
>of Bears... The reason for this kill is not clear... Bears do not
>have a major impact on Caribou/Moose herds.   Though bears WILL kill one
>if possible, they are most vegatarians.

Ah, hemmmm...  Brown bears probably have more impact on moose population
than wolves.  The bears hang around a pregnant cow for days waiting to
grab the calf...  Bears will eat anything, even vegatation (or vegatarians).

Keep up the pressure, but get the facts straight or no one here will
listen.

Floyd
-- 
floyd@ims.alaska.edu    A computer guest of the Institute of Marine Science
Salcha, Alaska          at the University of Alaska at Fairbanks
From: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Wolf Park in Massachusetts
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:48:21 GMT
Reply-To: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


A few weeks back, mention was made in an article of a wolf park in Massachusetts.
Cany anyone tell me the name, or where it is located??  Are there any others
in the New England area?

Thanks...

dana
Newsgroups: alt.wolves