From: ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: abortion
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:46:10 GMT
 <1992Apr12.125307.10994@husc3.harvard.edu> <204786@unix.cis.pitt.edu> 
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Organization: Freshman, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

To quote my good old friend Billy S. known to some as "the Bard of
Avalon", "Once more into the Breech"

	I feel that abortion is wrong and should be banned, except when it
endangers the mothers life.  (Rape and incest I feel are alreadyt
constitutionally excluded by a liberal interpretation adn the logical
extension of a limit on the punishment for treason).  I guess I will
start by explaining how I came to have my views.  I have attended church
 for 14 years or so nearly every sunday and a tremendous amount of
lenten vespers and advent vespers and the like.  SOmetimes as many as 3
spearate sevices in 24 hours.  But this is only part of the story.  I am
and have always been exceptionally large and was rather hyper as a
child, so I was always given more than my share of responisbility always
told to be careful of ther children(This caused me so many problems in
later years but thats a different story, in a seperate post later
perhaps, ask if you wish thats always my policy).  Also beign the oldest
of 3 i had a bit of responsibilty.  My mom has stories of when i was 5
of me going and giving my little sister a bottle when she was hungry. 
Anyway I have always had a strong affinity towards children.  Also when
I was a child cartoon shows with lots of superheros, and heros and such
were running around(I was addicted to the boob tube, my parents got a
color one so i could see sesame  street in color or so thety have said) 
Anyway, I always saw heros fightign unbelievable odds and saving the
helpless.  I even rember playing superhero.  Anyway, the idea of the
strong protecting the weak stuck in me.  It was just a part of me.  And
whenever I think about abortion, I see it as jsut the same, protecting
the defenseless being the one to stand up for them even though noone
woudl stand up for me(see the story about beign careful to come later).
	In a way abortion goes against my grain in Four separtte ways, first
there is the killing aspect which is actually relatively minor.  Second,
there is the aspect of giving up without even trying(another bad
influence of TV,  fight to the bitter end or retreat regroup and counter
attack are the onyl solutions i can percieve).  Third there is the point
that the pro-choice people overlook.  What about the babies choice
recently in FL there was a baby(anencephalacticic (?)) that was less
alive than even a zygote btu still people fought to keep it alive and
the courts agreed.  Adn finally there is my overwhelming desire to
protect the small and the defenseless.  That final thing is the
overwelming factor in this decision, asking me to not get involved or to
allow abortion to happen would be tantamount to killing me.  I can no
more think like a hero then a fish could not swim or a bird not fly or a
computer not go down jsut whne you need it the most.

ps i'll post that story about me later or tomarrow I guess.

"Mankind's primary responsibility consists of saying 'Go to Hell!' to
whomever they feel like and whenever they feel like."
Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ml5a@andrew.cmu.edu)