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From: dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stephen Dierdorf)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: _The Illusion of Life_ etc.
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:11:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


	Someone posted a couple of days ago about where s/he could find
_The Illusion of Life_ by Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston. My advice:
don't get your hopes up. I've been looking for it for over two years.
I tried to order it through the Disney Store, I've tried to get it through
the parks, I've tried used book stores: none of them have it, and some of them
haven't even HEARD of it. I found one place that said they could order it, and
I went around for a few days in a euphoric stupor. About a week later, they
called and said "No dice." The facts, as far as I can tell, are that the book
is officially out of print, and the only way you're going to find it is if
some bookstore happens to have an extra copy. (Fat chance.) It's a real shame,
too; I took a look at a friend's copy, and it is a beautiful book. There are
some good Disney animation books (_The Art of Disney Animation_, for instance)
but they cannot compare to _The Illusion of Life_. Perhaps there will be a
reprint in the near future. In the words of a certain Genie, "Here's hoping."
	Also, to whomever was looking for good books on Disney, I would
recommend "Storming the Magic Kingdom". It isn't about Walt himself, but
it is an interesting overview of the transition after Walt's death. It is also
an interesting insight into the world of hostile takeovers. A good read, if
you have the time.
	That's all for now! =@)

		Scott Dierdorf
		dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Human Again (was RE: Paige O'Hara)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:10:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <C1FJrq.9DI@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>All I've heard about BatB on Broadway is that it will have around 12 songs
>supposedly (i.e. the ones from the film, "Human Again", and a few additional
>tunes by Menken and Rice.)  Otherwise, not much else has been publicized,
>aside from the fact that many Broadway people are not very happy about
>Disney invading their turf...
>--
>        ** Ala"ddi"n **
>
I heard that "Human Again" was a very big, impressive song that was cut
from Beauty and the Beast.  When I finally heard it, I was a little
disappointed in the song.....I found it too long and a little repetitive.
Has anyone else heard this song? Any comments?  I'm sure Alan Zachary
will have a few 8:) 

-Denise (who just LOVES to tease Alan, you know)
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From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re:    Fantasmic
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:35:51 GMT
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In article <93026.132516ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>
>I want to know the best places to watch (and videotape) Fantasmic from,
>and strategies for getting there before the show.  I'm going this Saturday,
>the 30th.
>If this is in the FAQ could someone send me a copy.  Thanks.
>
>Fred McIlvain
>icwfm@asuacad

well, I noticed this Christmas that people were once again lining up
at 5:00 or 5:30 p.m. for the 9:00 p.m. show, so I don't know what to tell
you (but you should have seen their faces when they cancelled one night due
to rains!!).  However., there is a balcony from which you may watch the
the show, if you ask about 2 or 3 hours before the show begins.  Ask a
cast member in New Orleans Square about the balcony seating over the
One-of-a-Kind Shop in NOS.  Other than that, I recommend standing directly in
in front of Tom Sawyer's Island.  Athough there are 2 screens off the the
sides, you will miss alot.         ck.

-Denise
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From: bjorn@doek.uoregon.edu (Jeff D. Robin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re:Upcoming Disney Features(ANIMATED)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:27:21 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
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Greetings and Salutations,
		I havn't seen it on the boards so I don't know If it has  
gotten out yet but according to the regional office where I  
work(Waldenbooks), word is the next animated feature is to be Pocahantus(  
I KNOW I spelled that wrong :-) ). but anyway just though you'd like to  
know

				Yrs. Truly,
				--Jeff  

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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Disney Studios Tour?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:23:33 GMT

[article credits deleted for]

>>>>> -Denise (WHO HAS A DISNEY I.D.!!  SEEN IT! DONE IT!!)
>>>>> ...and who might be persuaded to share her exploits at the Studio...
>>>>
>>>>Oooooooh!  And aren't we all SO excited... Come on!  I've been to the studio.
>>>>Big deal. ;)  Ya seen one studio, ya seen 'em all (well, they don't all
>>>>have tall buildings with dwarfs as pillars, but what can ya do).  Several
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes....but did Angela Lansbury almost run you over with her Thunderbird?
>>>I think not....so there, babycakes.
>>
>>Oh?  And did you get to walk the Disney/MGM Studios star parade for
>>Geena Davis, Ed McMahon, Neil Patrick Harris (Doogie Howser, no
>>less!), John Ratzenberger, Tevin Campbell, Howie Mandell, or carry the
>>banner in the Aladdin Parade with a red fez on your head?  Well? huh?
>>Or did you ever have to escort Michael Jackson from the Main Street
>>Electrical Parade into the tunnels without getting crushed?  
>>
>>Aha!  I thought not!  You work at the wrong park dear!  
>>(And I have more I'm saving for your reply!!) =-)
>>
>
>
>Well...ummm...I got to see and hear Gerardo every day this summer.....
>OK Sean, I'll let you win :b  .
>
>But I work at the BETTER park.  HEE HEE HEE
>
>-Denise
>********
>"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

Ah, Denise...You say BETTER, but we have THREE parks down here, AND a
public Animation Tour!!  Now just exactly which park is Disneyland
better than..Magic Kingdom?  Hmm..MK is bigger.  EPCOT?  Disneyland
could fit in EPCOT's parking lot with room for 500 cars to spare.
Disney/MGM Studios?  We may be the newest, but we are definitely the
most fun.  Do you guys have Muppet-Vision 3-D? (no, Sean =-( )  Do you
have the Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular? (no, Sean =-( =-( )  Do you
have..(ahem)..The Great Movie Ride!!?? (umm, no, Sean..but we have the
Matterhorn and a smaller castle !!  =-)  er...=-(  )  

All of our Mountains are BIGGER..(Space, Splash, Big Thunder)...we
have 14.2 miles of monorail beamway...but that is beside the point.
Sure you guys are the origianl and size doesn't mean everything.  But
I see it like this.

Walt built Disneyland and made some mistakes.  His legacy built
DisneyWORLD and they got it right!!! 

so pbbbbllllt! 

=-) =-) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . =-) =-)

Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Who Framed Roger Rabbit LD
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:25:06 GMT

According to my friend, Disney will release a new CAV letterboxed 
version of _Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit_ with an original aspect ratio.
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Studios Tour?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 17:02:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1k1rioINNihl@shelley.u.washington.edu> mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner) writes:
>
>The Disney Studios are closed to anyone who doesn't have a Disney I.D..
>I'm not sure why, as I know many people would love to see the inside
>(not to mention that beautiful "7 Dwarfs" structure on the reflection
>pool by Michael Graves).  However, my guess is that Disney wants to keep
>its TV and movie lots, etc., and its animation department secretive.

Does anyone know whether Disney's west coast animation department
has been moved back to the studio's main lot from Glendale?  They
said they'd do that once the new executive office building is
complete.


- Robert Cook
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: "Herman's Head" Voice Question
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:23:04 GMT
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In article <1993Jan26.111234.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>Yeah, this is Disney related 'coz it's distributed by Buena Vista...
>
>I was watching Herman's Head the other night and I was wondering about a few of
>the voices.  I know Yeardly Smith does the voice of Lisa Simpson, but does
>anyone know which Simpsons voice Harry Shearer does?

Who doesn't he do???

Off the top of my head I can list Neighbor Flanders, Principal Skinner, Mr.
Burns, Smithers, the doctor and Mr. Brockman (TV announcer).  Plus he does
many of the one-shot characters.
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:14:16 EST
From: <RSL103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: UPCOMING ANIMATED FEATURES

For those of you who don't read some of the small print animation magazines,
the Disney animation agenda looks like this:

1993:  KING OF THE JUNGLE--I don't know much about this one, except that it's
supposed to be something like Bambi, but with a lion cub;  Alan Menkin and Tim
Rice are doing the songs;  Linda Woolverton (Beauty and the Beast) is doing the
script; and James Earl Jones does a voice.

1994:  POCAHONTAS--This WILL be a musical version, and it WILL be historically
accurate, meaning it won't be a happy ending.  At the end, so I've heard,
Pocahontas stays in Virginia while her lover, Captain John Smith, takes a ship
back to England.

1995:  FANTASIA REVISITED

1996:  SWAN LAKE

Also, somewhere in all this they're supposed to insert THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE
CHRISTMAS, directed by former Disney animator Tim Burton.  I've heard
conflicting reports as to whether or not that's supposed to be animated.

The next feature after SWAN LAKE is tentatively titled SONG OF THE SEA.  No
word yet as to whether or not a certain redhead or a Jamaican crab will be
featured.
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The Little Mermaid Series Question
Date: 24 Jan 1993 04:58:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Well, they've finally moved the TLM series to a halfway decent hour here
in Cleveland (10:00 from 7:00--still early, but workable at least sometimes)
so, now that I get to see some eps, I was wondering, do Ariel's sisters
ever make a significant appearance?  I mean, are they ever major characters
in the story?  Do they ever do anything with Ariel or is she always just
hanging out with Flounder and Sebastian?  After reading "Tales from Under
the Sea" (which is really cute and contains stories about the sisters as
well as Ariel) I'd like to see more of the "Daughters of Triton" other than
Ariel.  
Linda
-- 
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far!"------The Impossible Dream, "Man of La Mancha"
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From: rjf@cbnews.cb.att.com (robert.j.fredette)
Subject: Re: Shuttle launch
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:25:58 GMT
Summary: look east

In article <15985@suns7.crosfield.co.uk>, gds@crosfield.co.uk (gary stamp) writes:
> Here's an unusual question:-
> 
> I hope to visit WDW during March. It happens that a shuttle launch is due
> during my holiday.
> 
> If I choose to spend that day some where in Disney,
> 	-will I be able to see the orbiter following take-off ?
> 	-where would be the best place to catch a view ?
> 	-in which direction (i.e is the sun in my eyes) ?
> 	-any other tips ?
> 

   A couple of years ago we witnessed the shuttle Atlantis' flight. At the 
time we were staying at the Caribbean Beach and were tuned into CNN (or maybe
one of the big three networks). Just after lift off on the tube, we rushed
outside. Looking east, over Port Royal, and not knowing what to expect, we
watched as a soundless sliver of light, with a vapor trail, lifted over the 
trees. Not as impressive I'm sure as being near the cape (40 or so miles 
away) but non the less, it was still enjoyable knowing what was happening.

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From: riouxp@vccnorthe.its.rpi.edu (Peter Joseph Rioux)
Subject: Re: Disney Women:Face & Figure
Reply-To: riouxp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:26:19 GMT

In article <C1A2BA.A4H@news2.cis.umn.edu>, amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian) writes:
|> In article <C18J9x.MJw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleen S. Davis) writes:
|> 
|> >I'll make you a deal.  I'll woo the Beast and you can all fight over
|> >Belle.  I want the Beast while he was still a Beast, of course. . .
|> 
|> No.  He's *MINE*.  All *MINE*.  And I'm *NOT* sharing!  You want him, you'll
|> have to go through my dead body!
|> <pout pout grin> :-)
|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Amberle Ferrian     <amberle@epx.cis.umn.edu>
|> 24...dreamy brown eyes...soft dark hair down to so...and a GREAT sense of
|> humor...does this sound like a personals ad yet? or ring a Belle?...and if you
|> can CATCH me you can KEEP me!...All this, and I can cook spaghetti too!...
|> But wait!  If you act now, you'll also receive ABSOLUTELY FREE...
|> 	#include "big_smilie_for_the_humor_impaired.h"!!!
|> NOW how much would you pay?  Call now, operators are standing by!
|> 
|> 
hey, tim.. and neil.. does this sound familiar?.... hehehe... 
and amberle.. WHAT were you saying about fanboys??????
hmmm.........

squid
(of course....>:)
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From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Trivia Questions for Disney's Little Mermaid
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:04:01 GMT

In article <1jhe01INNir5@network.ucsd.edu>, rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.085333.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>>   Trivia question for "Disney's The Little Mermaid": What is Flounder's
>>real name?
> 
> Don't know, I heard that it was different from the movie.  The same
> voice actors are used for Ariel and Sebastian, though.
   And King Triton. Edan Gross does Flounder in the series.

   But that is not what I was asking for. I am asking what the CHARACTER'S
real name is, as in Flounder is his nickname.


>>   Another trivia question for Disney's TLM: What color was King Triton's
>>hair when he was a boy? And for special credit: What was King Triton's
>>nickname as a boy? Tim Pickett is excluded from these last two (I have
> I think I remember that his hair was red, like Ariel's.  Didn't he
> have freckles?
   Yes, red (I will have to rewatch the episode for the freckles (the
2nd of the remaining episodes for my Episode Guide)). And he was also
called Red. And the title of the episode is "RED". The color of his hair
is also answered in the episode "DOUBLE BUBBLE".


> BTW, have you seen Ariel as a much younger mermaid?  I wouldn't enter
> her in a _beauty contest_ or anything, if you know what I mean. ;-)
   She sure did improve with age. :-)

   It is very interesting that you mention this scene. Not only does
this episode answer the first question, but this is the actual SCENE! I also
stumped Squid for a while, and he had also just previously discussed this
scene with me! I have already posted my writeup for this episode, which
answers the first question (2nd posting).


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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Scan & post pics of voicemakers
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:08:35 GMT

With any luck, these are the pictures of people to do with Disney that I
can scan and upload:

Lea Salonga (Jasmine singing)
Paige O'Hara (Belle)
David Ogden Stiers (Cogsworth)
Jerry Orbach (Lumiere)
Angela Lansbury (Mrs Potts)
Robby Benson (Beast)
Glen Keane, Will Finn, Nik Ranieri (animators)
and . . .
Jodi Benson (Ariel, of course!)

Tim.

PS I know you all want them; just leave me in peace (no mail yet please)
and I can do them.
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin (Inside Joke!)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:40:54 GMT
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In article <C1Aq0J.2Lt@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>Here is an inside reference to Disney in "Aladdin" which I don't think
>anyone has noticed (or at least has posted about noticing):
>
>        When Aladdin finishes singing "One Jump Ahead" and then gives
>        the bread to the two children, he walks out into the street
>        where a prince is heading to the palace.  As Aladdin edges
>        through the crowd, we see two prominently displayed men
>        talking, one of them has a red beard.  These two are, without
>        question, Aladdin's two directors, Ron Clements and John Musker.
>        
>Look for it the next time you see the picture. :)
>--
>        ** Ala"ddi"n **

Oh GEE, Alan, how COULD we have missed that OBVIOUS reference....

Don't we all have pie on our faces now..... (SARCASM SARCASM SARCASM so there)

-Denise (who just LOVES to tease Alan, you know)
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: GIFs of posters!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:23:32 GMT

Pictures of the Australian Disney Posters are available for anonymous
FTP from atbmac1.larc.nasa.gov.  The directory is /pub/Graphics or a
subdirectory thereof.

The files:
bigpostr.gif	The "big poster".  Thanks to Richard Wiffen for the picture.
The spots for the stickers aren't visible in this picture, but they go
around the edges where characters are sparse.

lilpostr.gif	The "little poster".  This is a home-made photograph;
the white streaks are reflections of the flash - they aren't on the
original poster.

Remember: if you want either one of these posters, email me *now*.  The
deadline is Thursday January 27.

Tim Pickett
quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

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From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:58:02 GMT

In <1993Jan22.153801.20472@ncsu.edu> cdsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER DALE SMITH) writes:
 
> Did anyone else notice that Belle's fingernails
> were long/short throughout the movie.
>In some scenes they are long, in others, short. 
> Does she use Lee press-on nails or did different
> animators not have the finger thing straight?

Nope.  I'll have to watch for it next time.


>Jasmine's hair has got to go.  Ariel, by far, had the 
>most appealing hair.  Every strand carefully, and perfectly
>animated!  I loved that little piece of hair that kept falling
>on Belle.  How many times did she have to fix that piece?  I'de 
>estimate at least 10 times.  (This is a set up for someone to reply
>with the correct number)

I actually tried counting the times Belle fixed that little bit of hair.  I
only counted three, but I kept forgetting as I got caught up in the sound.  I
hooked it up in surround, and it sounds awesome!  Especially with a big amp and
a big subwoofer.  Those of you with subs--hook 'em up!  I am Beast!  Here me
roar!  Forget that--_feel_ the roar!  (Don't take that the wrong way.)

Also, I agree with you about Jasmine.  Chop of about half of it and it'd be
fine.  And I definitely agree with you about Ariel's hair.  But I thought 
Belle's was only so-so except when it was out of the ponytail, like when she
was fighting off the wolves.
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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mary Popins II
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:18:49 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
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Robert Waisnor (waisnor@norland.diag.stratus.com) wrote:
> Are there any outstanding reasons why Disney could not do a MPII?
> Most of the original characters are still around (and probably dying
> for some work) and you could just bring the time line up thirty years or so.
> Imagine, Mary Popins versus the Nazi's.....
> 
> Is there a rights problem or what?

Last I heard, the project was still being tossed around in development
with a possibility of Alan Menken writing music.  However... I doubt
that they would use the original actors (the ones that are still alive
anyway).
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	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."
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