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From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Niners escape Foxboro
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:43:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.023718.10783@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:
(I said:)
>>More on D line play:
>>
>>They weren't any better than last week.  What I noticed is that
>>Fagan was in the game only on half the plays at best. I don't think
>>it's a situation substitution, but trying to keep his fragile knees
>>from fatiguing.  He draws double every time.
>
>Remember Harris was hobbled by a knee injury. And the DL did have
>three sacks, which is not shabby. Plus they had a big sack overturned
>by a chintzy face mask call.

The stats were much better, but the PATS line is not as good as
Rams, even in the depleted state the Rams line is.  The D line
will be outstanding when it counts toward the end of the season.
The replay did show he had a hold of the mask, though his head
didn't move.  The point I tried to make, is that I think Fagan is a
big key, and if he is healthy at playoff time will make the
difference between an ok defensive line and an awesome one.

>>hard. Corners did good job.
>
>Especially on Irving Fryar, who only had two catches. Merton Hanks made
>a terrific play on the long sideline pass to Fryar.
I really like Hanks.  I think he covers better than Davis, but Davis
is better overall tackler, and I think plays a little smarter.

>
>Personally I'm not all that comfortable with the 49ers' play so far. We

One nice thing about being a Niner fan, is even when we stink the
stadium up,  the last couple drives in the 4th quarter is still
determining the outcome of the game.  When was the last time we were
blown out of a game?  Was is the Rams in the last game of the season
in '88? (home field locked, Montana kept out, marched us to big
show.)

>could very easily be 2-4 at this point, just like last year. We had to
>struggle from behind to beat the pathetic Rams and Pats, and only beat
>the Saints due to a boneheaded pass by Hebert. But we did end up doing
>what it takes to win, which is more than we did in the same type of games
>last year, which is a sign of a good team. I think that losing Taylor is
>hurting the team more than I had anticipated; Sherrard is not coming close
>to filling his shoes. Hopefully when Taylor returns for the stretch drive
>the 49ers will be clicking on all cylinders again.

If I were picking a team from scratch, Taylor would be my first
choice for receiver.  He would definitely make a big difference.
However, Young had both Rice and Sherrard open on deep patterns
that had he connected would have been TDs.  Young just missed, one
was picked.  (sheesh, Montana threw those too.)

I was glad to see them go downtown early, had they executed, the
game would have been over at half.  Better though, that they tried
and failed than just dink 'em down the field.  Gotta get Rice in the
game.  I think they were thinking ahead, giving some future
opponents something to think about (as well as Watters pass, I
wondered when they would try that).

Mike
From: metz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Daniel M Metz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins News - Oct. 14, 1992
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:06:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Oct15.030624.14761
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

>
>Other News:
>----------
>Cornerback Sidney Johnson suffered a fractured hand.  He may play against 
>the Eagles.  Gibbs was particular happy with Johnson who was back on 
>the field a week after suffering a compound dislocation of the left 
>ring finger.

Now wait a minute, let's get our Johnsons straight here.  It was AJ Johnson
who was the cornerback who suffered the dislocated finger last week, not
Sidney Johnson.  Now about breaking the hand,I'm not sure... Can someone
say which Johnson fractured the hand?  

Also, what exactly is a "compound dislocation"?  A compound fracture is when
the bone breaks and then also breaks through the skin, but I don't see how
anything similar could happen with a dislocation...Any orthopedists out
there?

-Dan Metz

> Steve Williams                           swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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From: floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich)
Subject: Re: Eagles : YIKES!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:19:56 GMT

lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:

>>Ahh, finally a netter that is SHARP. I threw that in there
>>just to see who would catch it. Congrats.! BTW, this tidit about
>>Seifert was shown on t.v. last week.

>Oh, no wonder you have so many contradictions in your postings. You just want
>us to catch your inconsistencies? I mean, it doesn't have to be SHARP to see
>your nonsense.

At least he replied to someone pointing out his contradictions.  I've  
pointed out flat out contradictions in John P. Gloria's arguments on 
2 previous threads and he dropped the threads without replying to my 
articles.  We can only hope he has the sense to give up on this one, too.

Floyd Goodrich
floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com
From: newberg68@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles are overrated
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:59:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

You Eagle fans can now stop entertaining all those hopes and dreams that the
Eagles will go 16-0 and win it all.
KC beat them by a landslide.
The 24-17 score does not tell how much of a blowout this game was as it was
24-3 at one point in the fourth quarter.
The offensive line was pathetic; the defense got faked out of their shorts by
the play-fakes of Krieg and Co.; And dare we mention (-1) (that's right,
negative one) passing yards at the half.
The cowboys made silly mistakes on Monday night, but we'll see what happens in
Texas.
Walker vs. E. Smith.
Irvin vs. Barnett.
Troy vs. Randall.
Dallas wins all three matchups.
And the fair-weathered fans of Philly can go back to crying about how they
haven't won a playoff game since the U.S. economy was in good shape (For those
of you who can't remember, Reagan was prez.)
Today's final scores:  KC 24 Philly 17; Dallas 27 Seattle 0.
-Brad R. Newberg
From: nk0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brennan Kraje)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,cmu.misc.market
Subject: Monday Night FB TIX SALE
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:20:30 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    I have two (2) corporate box seats for the Pittsburgh Steelers vs.
Cincinnati Bengals on Monday Night Football, October 19th @ 7 p.m.  I
know theses are corporate box seats because I have sat in these seats
during the Giants and Jets games, and most everyone around my date and I
were twice as old as us.
    The seats are in section 443, Row E, Seats 12 & 13 (see the front of
the yellow pages for the stadium's diagram).  These are beautiful seats
right on the 40 yard line behind the opposing team's bench.  They are
covered, but this does not affect the view @ all...they are great seats.
    Normally, football tickets are $25 each, but these are $30 each face
value.  I paid $90 for them.  I will entertain any offers between $60
and ?, and will post again to these bboards when the tickets are sold.
    The game may be far away, but I want to dump these tickets now to
buy hockey ones.  Respond to me @ nk0s.

                                                    - Brennan 
                                                      nk0s
  
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From: aperkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Aaron B. Perkins)
Subject: EAGLES BEAT THE COWPUSSIES AND THATS ALL TO SAY..EXCEPT PREDICTIONS
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:57:32 GMT


WELL WELL WELL COWPUSSIES FNAS HAVE NO PRIDE LEFT IN THEIR TEAM EXCEPT TO SAY
THAT THE EAGLES WERE LUCKY IN BEATING THEM WELL....TWO WORDS (COWBOYS SUCK)
WE KICKED YOUR ASSES ALL OVER THE FIELD AND BACK AND WILL DO IT AGAIN IN
TEXAS STADIUM. NEXT MATTER....I PREDICTED THE EAGLES TO WIN 42 TO 3 (PRETTY
DAMN CLOSE DONT YOU THINK?)
SO HERE ARE THIS WEEKS PREDICTIONS OF THE K.C. GAME.......
                                EAGLES 27
                                K.C.   10

                    GOOD GAME (BETTER THAN THE COWPUSSIES EMBARESMENT)

EAGLES WILL FINISH THE SEASON 16-0 AND WILL WIN THE SUPER BOWL



ERVING,BARKLEY,BOL,HAWKINS,DAWKINS,GILLIAM,GRANT,SCHMIDT,ROSE,DYKSTRA,WHITE
CUNNINGHAM,BARNETT,WILLIAMS,BROWN(R.I.P.),WALKER,BYERS,LYNDROSS,AND BEST OF ALL
BUDDY RYAN (WE MISS YOU BUDDY)!!!!!!!!!!!!

signed julius the master predictor


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: STATUS OF MONTANA...
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 OCT 92 11:22:17    

In article <1992Oct13.024108.11176@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>, marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes...

>In article <1992Oct12.230426.20993@sequent.com>, patrick@sequent.com (Patrick Roddy) writes:
>>I am interested in finding out whether the Niners plan to continue
>>with Young at QB if Montana is ready to come in. As much as I worship
>>Montana, I am suspect on messing with a winning package. Is Montana
>>ready to come off of IR, or will he remain for a couple more weeks.
>>Looking forward to watching the Niners in mid January.
> 
>Montana's status has not changed. It seems like the 49ers' management is
>hardly even keeping up with his status. Carmen Policy was asked when
>Montana was supposed to start throwing again, and his response was "I
>think he's supposed to start throwing yesterday or tomorrow". And
>Seifert regularly says "I don't know if he's been throwing or not".
>I think the picture is clear; Montana is not coming back this year,
>certainly as long as they keep winning with Young (even as difficult as
>he has made it to do so).

According to the Associated Press Montana hasn't thrown since 
September 26.  Since then he's had numbness in the hand and his 
doctors told him not to throw.

(This appeared in today's [Oct 13] Wisconsin State Journal.)

JGH
From: dchou@husc8.harvard.edu (David Chou)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns MUST win against Steelers
Keywords: Win or be assured of a high draft pick
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:20:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.dchou.718597226
Distribution: usa

cfh@cbnews.cb.att.com (chuck.himmelspach) writes:

>The Browns play a crucial (it's not too early) game on Sunday against
>the Steelers. They will have Kevin Mack back but will have a questionable
>entity at quarterback. (Not to mention questionable wide receivers AND
>more importantly questionable play-calling!) The Browns desperately need 
>to win this game to give Tomzack and the whole offense some much needed 
>confidence. A win will give them a fighting chance of surviving until 
>Bernie makes it back. A loss will make it tough to handle such powerhouses 
>as Green Bay and New England in the coming weeks.

>My prediction.....

>	A win against Pittsburgh sets up a potential respectable season i.e.
>              8 or 9 wins.

>	A loss against Pittsburgh paves the way for a 4 or 5 win season and
>              a fairly high draft pick.

>What do you think...Browns fans?

The point is moot, because the Steelers will chew them up and shit them out
even browner than their name suggests :)

							-Dave
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From: arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rolf Arands)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Ironman results - Allen did it again - European power...
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:25:03 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

ojp@tik.vtt.fi (Olli Pihlajamaa) writes:


>	1.	Mark Allen		USA	8:09.09

Gee, what a surprise.  

>	2.	Christian Bustos	CHI	8:16.28
>	3.	Pauli Kiuru		FIN	8:17.29
                ^^^^^^^^^^^

This guy has to win this thing sometime.  I know nothing about his actual 
splits, but I would be willing to bet (based on his races in previous years) 
that Pauli lost time on the run.  Next year the Flying Finn will nail it!!!


Any news on the women's race?  I gather Newby-Fraser won???


Rolf Arands



>	4.	Wolfgang Dittrich	GER	8:23.19
>	5.	Jurgen Zack		GER	8:25.04
>	.
>	.
>       11.	Teemu Vesala		FIN	
>       17.	Bennie Lindberg		FIN

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From: arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rolf Arands)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:05:53 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman) writes:

>Wetsuits will be allowed in all TriFed races where the water temperature is
>below 78 degrees F.

>NOTE:  The proposal is for this to be a *rule* not a *guideline*.

>What do you think?

I own a wetsuit, but only have used it once in about 25-30 races that I have 
done.  The swim is by far my weakest event, but I still like the challenge
w/o a wetsuit.  

I think a ruling is good, but 78 deg F seems a little generous.  Perhaps 
the ***distance of the swim*** as well as the water temperature should be 
factored in.  I have survived some really cold swims w/o a wetsuit, but 
only because the swim was very short (400-800m).  I could see wetsuits 
being almost mandatory, though, as the swim length gets longer (especially
over 1 mile).  

Just my opinion anyway.

Rolf Arands
From: fossumt@stolaf.edu (Theodore B Fossum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Scott Tinley
Keywords: Ironman
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:39:56 GMT
Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN

Can anyone tell me what was/is up with Scott Tinley??  Was he at
Hawaii or did I miss out on some big news??

Also, does anyone know where Newby placed overall?  It looks like she
wasn't too far from top ten, the way times were spreading.

Thanks
Ted

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From: cak0838@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.A. Kenyeres)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Aero wheels
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:32:07 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: cak0838@ultb


Does anyone know where I could get aero wheels for 20" and
24" wheels?  I would rather buy them or have them donated
to my solar car team instead of having to build them from
scratch for 4 wheels + 4 spares.

Thanks,

Chris :)



-- 
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From: spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Shane P Esau)
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz Tri - Something Different
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 21:45:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <STERGIOS.92Oct6195800@kt22.Stanford.EDU> stergios@kt22.Stanford.EDU writes:
>
  Marinopoulos remained
>seated hammering away as he flew past riders standing up on their
>peddals who could only watch Marinpoulos bridge from group to group.
>

Stergios  - are you implying here that you were drafting and
bridging from group to group like the pro-cyclists do?  Just
Wondering

Shane
From: lwm3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (LANCE WILLIAM MUZSLAY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Paula's bike at Ironman?
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:38:46 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>Did anyone get to watch the race?  In particular  I'd like to know if Paula
>Newby-Fraser used a "fairing" type of device on her aerobars.

>She called TriFed Safety & Rules before the race to ask if it was legal and
>was given a resounding "no".  However, since Ironman is not "officially" a
>TriFed  sancitoned  race she was only  bound by her own  ethics  not to use
>them.

I was in the race and saw Paula pass me on the bike.  From what I could see
she did not have any type of fairing on her aerobars.
From: spesau@acs.ucalgary.ca (Shane P Esau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:40:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct15.150127.16146@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> tjensen@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (todd.r.jensen) writes:
>
>Wheel covers are legal on the bike and they provide nothing but aerodynamic
>benefits, so why the big fuss over wetsuits?  And while I'm at it, let's
>make drafting illegal on the swim too! 8^)  And then let's enforce it!
>
I agree - let's make the swim an individual event as well - there
are many people out there who benefit a great deal by being able
to draft - why is drafting allowed in swimming, but not in the
bike?  I am really interested in an answer to this.

Shane
From: tjensen@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (todd.r.jensen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:01:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsk.1992Oct15.150127.16146
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <113520176@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman) writes:
>
>Here is the current proposal being  spearheaded by some of the TriFed board
>on NEW WETSUIT RULES:
>
>
>Wetsuits will be allowed in all TriFed races where the water temperature is
>below 78 degrees F.
>
>
>NOTE:  The proposal is for this to be a *rule* not a *guideline*.
>
>
>
>What do you think?
>
>-- LSC

I think it's a very good idea.  The main reason wetsuits aren't allowed
when the water is "warm" is so no one has an unfair advantage that a
wetsuit may give.  The problem I have is what some people consider warm.
68-72 degrees F may be "warm" to the sub-20:00 1.5K swimmer, but to
the slower and older swimmers, it may cause hypothermia.

Also, in many of the races I did this year, the water was the required
temperature to disallow wetsuits, but the air temperature was in the
low 40's.  If we had been able to wear a wetsuit while waiting around for
the race to start and warming up in the water, the swim may have been a
bit more enjoyable.

Wheel covers are legal on the bike and they provide nothing but aerodynamic
benefits, so why the big fuss over wetsuits?  And while I'm at it, let's
make drafting illegal on the swim too! 8^)  And then let's enforce it!

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From: chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:17:59 GMT
Subject: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon


Here is the current proposal being  spearheaded by some of the TriFed board
on NEW WETSUIT RULES:


Wetsuits will be allowed in all TriFed races where the water temperature is
below 78 degrees F.


NOTE:  The proposal is for this to be a *rule* not a *guideline*.



What do you think?

-- LSC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: javier@cs.toronto.edu (Javier Pinto)
Subject: Re: Ironman results - Allen did it again - European power...
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: rec
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:59:51 GMT

ojp@tik.vtt.fi (Olli Pihlajamaa) writes:


>	1.	Mark Allen		USA	8:09.09
>	2.	Christian Bustos	CHI	8:16.28

What? I can't believe my eyes! Cristian in second place! 

Wow! Chileans hardly ever show up in the list of winners in any sport, and
now this! o boy, this demands a celebration. TOo bad none of my chilean
friends around will care much! But, I'll go for a long run tomorrow in
honor of Cristian. 

Javier.

P.S. Please, if anybody know when this is going tobe televised in Canada,
let me know. This is one triathlon that i have to see.
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From: villan@ntmtv.UUCP (Ernie Villanueva)
Subject: Quintana roo for sale 
Keywords: Quintana roo 
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:23:55 GMT

OKAY YOU TRIATHLETES,
I'VE DROP THE PRICE OF MY QUINTANA ROO FRAMESET FROM 600.00 TO 500.OO
ITS 2 YEARS OLD AND IN EXCELLENT CONTDITION.  I`M ASKING 500.00 OR BEST OFFER.  MAKE ME AN OFFER.  HERE'S THE STATS:
QUINTANA ROO FRAMESET
53 CM FRAME
WILL FIT RIDERS WHO CURRENTLY RIDE A 56,55,54CM FRAME.  
FRAMESET INCLUDES:
PUMP, WATER BOTTLE CAGES, SEAT POST, HEADSET AND BOTTOM BRACKET.

SO THOSE OF YOU LOOKING FOR A GREAT FRAME, CALL ME.  OR IF YOU KNOW OF SOMEONE LOOKING FOR A GREAT TRI BIKE, SEND THEM MY WAY.  
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP.

ERN*MAN

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          MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIFORNIA
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From: mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy)
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:13:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.141211.25538@mlb.semi.harris.com> mvm@epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney) writes:
>mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:
>
>>I propose a total wetsuit ban!!!!
>
>I propose a ban on aero-bars, clipless pedals, and composite materials...


The way I see this whole issue is based on the original spirit
of multi-sport events.  There wasn't this endless bickering about
rules and DQs.  People just went out there and raced.  

C'mon let's go out there and kick some butt!!!
-- 
Da mihi castitatem et continentiam, sed noli modo. 
Confessions of St. Augustine, Book VIII, Chapter 7
From: mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Need Feedback ASAP -- Wetsuits & TriFed
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:06:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct15.154904.162544@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> lwm3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (LANCE WILLIAM MUZSLAY) writes:
>>Here is the current proposal being  spearheaded by some of the TriFed board
>>on NEW WETSUIT RULES:
>>
>>Wetsuits will be allowed in all TriFed races where the water temperature is
>>below 78 degrees F.
>>
>>NOTE:  The proposal is for this to be a *rule* not a *guideline*.
>>
>>What do you think?
>>
>>-- LSC
>>
>I think that 78F is too high.  

When I swim at the Y the pool temp is ~80F.  (I know cause I asked 
the life guard).  C'mon guys lets show some backbone here.
Suck it up and dive in. When the going gets tough....

I propose a total wetsuit ban!!!!

To quote Devo - "Are we not men?"

-- 
Da mihi castitatem et continentiam, sed noli modo. 
Confessions of St. Augustine, Book VIII, Chapter 7
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