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From: andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Portable SW recommendations around $200
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:57:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Renaissance Technologies Corp., Setauket, NY.

In article <1992Nov10.171559.4296@linus.mitre.org> m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
>sofjan mustopoh writes:
>>> what portable SW would you recommend in the $200 price range
>
>>     Start from sony sw7600  +- $220
>>                panasonic rf-b65 +- $220
>>                          rf-b45 +- $170  no ssb

My RFB-45 has SSB, although I haven't used it, it looks entirely like that of
my ICF-SW7600. Given a choice between the two I'd get the Sony for the stereo
FM, the dial light, but the Panasonic has some more memory and the signal
strength indicator is slightly better. I own the Panasonic because I forgot
to take the Sony on a trip with me once, and it now lives in my office.

>>                sangean   at-803a +- $180
>>                          at-808  +- $190 no ssb
>>                          at-818  +- $220 

Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: alt newsgroups
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:09:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxLD7L.6FM
Reply-To: StarOwl@uiuc.edu
Followup-To: sender
Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
Followups-To: sender

GL8574@ACSPR1.ACS.BROCKPORT.EDU writes:

|I have another suggestion:  you can get an account on Nyx.CS.DU.Edu, a public
|access system operated at Denver University, and they *do* get a number of the
|alt newsgroups.  Simply telnet to that address, and then I think it is 'new'
|(all lowercase) to get set up with an account.  

Two other suggestions:

Get an account on either Cleveland Freenet (telnet freenet-in-a.cwru.edu)
or at bbs.oit.unc.edu.  Both sites carry the entire alt anarchy...er, 
heirarchy.  You can read news on your first connection to bbs.oit, but
you have to do some paperwork if you want posting and mail priv's at 
--
Bigotry is not a family value.  Boycott Colorado and Tampa.

Michael Adams (StarOwl@uiuc.edu, wi.4962@n7kbt.rain.com)	
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: slush@VOA.GOV (Joe Gallagher)
Subject: Re: Scanner Newsgroup?
Summary: Where/How to get alt.radio.scanner?
Organization: Voice of America: Washington, DC.
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:39:04 GMT

From previous postings:
>>
>> Wasn't there until recently a scanner-oriented newsgroup that had
>> split off from this group?  Did it die (or just disappear from my
>> local system)?
>> 				   
>
>The scanner group is alt.radio.scanner. If your site doesn't get the
>"alt" groupe (as mine doesn't) you won't see it.
>
The logical followup question -- from a site which also does not get
alt.radio.scanner -- therefore is....
           Is someone in the DC area (who DOES get it) willing
           to mail the material from that newsgroup to me?

My sister used to mail it to me, but she's not really familiar enough
with her system to lump it all into one mailing and then send it in my
direction, and starting grad school has cut down on her time drastically.

Many thanks in advance....and if there is more than one reply, I'll mail
to each of you to work out which person could do it with the least
hassle.

Thanks again!
Joe
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: How about the DAK Direct Access SW radio?
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:25:52 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Last time I was here everyone was saying how the new DAK 101-S was
just low-end as opposed to the Truly Awful old 101. So now I see they
have a direct-access digital tuned radio for $69.90, $49.90 in their
used catalog. How crummy is this one? I sold my 2010 and haven't seen
a cheap used SW20 yet so I am radioless.... I decided I was just a
casual travelling listener and not a DX'er so I need a portable radio
that I could afford to lose with my luggage <grin>

--
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MACS Dept, UMass/Boston               BITNET:ESCHWARTZ%UMBSKY.DNET@NS.UMB.EDU
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: Portable SW recommendations around $200
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: rec.radio.shortwave
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:30:44 GMT

In article <TMARK.92Nov9111349@sherlock.wbst845e.xerox.com> tmark@wbst845e.xerox.com (Ted Markowitz) writes:
>I know this question is going to generate a lot of heat (and hopefully
>some light!) but, what portable SW would you recommend in the $200
>price range give the following minimum requirements:
>
>	- good SW band coverage
>	- medium wave
>	- FM (possibly with stereo)
>	- digital tuning
>	- a few station presets

Try the Sony 7600, Panasonic RB45, or Sangean 808.  All are excellent
performers for your money.
(I personally am a Sony fan:  Owned a 2010 since 1988.)
(But for full sizers, try DRAKE!!! {sorry, I really like that radio})

-- 
+-------------------------+----------------------------------+ ^  ^  ^
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone on 23.846
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 04:44:31 GMT


  SOmetimes cordless can use odds frequency.
  I recalled back in my country i use panasonic
  cordless which use 3.5XXX  or so and 49.XXXXX
  Mhz . I confirm it using  frequency counter.
  Though the signal is very weak.

  Muskie

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: SW-55 switch output... ?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:12:42 GMT

Does anyone know how the switch output of the SW-55 works?
This is a mini-plug jack meant to switch a tape recorder on and
off.  The instructions specify one or two models of Sony recorders,
and a specific set of plugs and adapters to make it work.  I put in 
a mini plug and test the output with an ohmmeter; when the 
timer switched the set on, nothing happened at on the ohmmeter.
I had guessed that it provided a circuit closure, but I guess I
was wrong.  Anybody know how this works?  Some signal voltage?
Special plug?  Thanks...

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake)
Subject:  RF gain (was: New American Made SHORTWAVE available)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:45:51 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1330@kepler1.rentec.com>, andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt) writes:
|> In article <Sreye-qH3@lopez.marquette.MI.US> flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack) writes:
|> >I got into a discussion with Bill Grove on the Genie network regarding the
|> >fact that their whiz bang receiver did not have an RF gain control.  I tried
|> >to explain as best as I could that the RF GAIN is one of the knobs I use most
|> >often (And I am sure you DIE HARD SWLS on the net will back me up on this).
|> 
|> I don't know. A properly designed receiver should not require an RF Gain
|> adjustable by the user. I've been SWL'ing for nearly 20 years and I haven't
|> seriously fiddled the RF Gain in the last five of them.

I have to agree with Gary here, you should use the RF gain rather than
the AF gain (volume control) in most cases.

Were the world (and SW receivers) perfect, then this wouldn't be true.
But reality is as follows:

	At SW frequencies, background noise is way above the noise level
	of a typical (reasonably good) SW receiver at its worst.

	Mixers are far from perfect, and intermodulation products are the
	biggest offenders in adding noise (as well as spurious signals)
	to a receiver.

	The RF gain control should be capab;e of giving NEGATIVE gain,
	as well as positive gain (i.e. it should be capable of attenuating
	incoming signals).

The rationale is that you keep the incoming signal as low as is practicable
before it hits the mixer. This way intermodulation products are kept to a
minumim.

For disbeleivers, try finding a relatively weak station on a crowded part
of virtually any band. If it has high power signals close to it, so much the better.
Now, reduce the RF gain (and add input attenuation, if required) enough to push the
signal down into the noise.
Slowly increase the RF gain (decrease attenuation).
The signal to noise ratio will improve. As you continue to increase RF gain,
the S/N ratio will continue to improve, and the will begin to DECREASE
as the stronger stations begin to overload the mixer, and cause lots of
nasty intermodulation products.

The effect really is noticable, if you choose the right signal to try it on.
Now, this is probably not at all important if your SWLing is just that,
but if you are chasing DX, with rare and weak signals, this is the only way
to do it if you want to stand a good chance of sucess.

Philip
From: Ron.Killeen@f543.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Ron Killeen)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Freq. Register
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 00:19:52

Hi all,

I'm a radio operator in St. John Victoria District, and have decided to
UNofficially compile a register for our new communications vehicle, SJ1. I am
looking to swap information with communications divisions from other states,
especially South Australia and New South Wales. This would be extremely useful
for liaison at incidents, exercises, and particularly with the upcoming fire
season (if it ever stops raining in Victoria...!)

Eg. if something goes down in Mt. Gambier for example, and we all get turned
out, wouldn't it be nice not only to know the frequencies, but also the
codes,callsigns, and procedures used by other services?

The information I am after includes channel frequencies,
inputs/outputs,sub-tones, allocations, guidelines for channel selection,
codes,callsign structures, on-air procedures, prowords in common use, etc.
etc..

I am REALLY interested in getting this together, so, c'mon johnnos in other
states, let's pool our info and see what we can come up with. Please feel free
to reply here or netmail on 3:635/543 at the John Knox ARC BBS.

Thanks for reading this!

Ron Killeen VK3EHF.

 * Origin: John Knox ARC Melbourne Aus. (613) 521 1206 (3:635/543)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Portable SW recommendations around $200
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:15:59 GMT

sofjan mustopoh writes:
>> what portable SW would you recommend in the $200 price range

>     Start from sony sw7600  +- $220
>                panasonic rf-b65 +- $220
>                          rf-b45 +- $170  no ssb
>                sangean   at-803a +- $180
>                          at-808  +- $190 no ssb
>                          at-818  +- $220 

This is a very good list.  I would like to second the nomination of
the Panasonic RF-B65; for the price, it has an excellent combination
of features and performance, and to me it has a good quality "look and
feel".

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Antenna recommendations
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:11:50 GMT

Mike Johnston writes:
> I'm less than satisfied with the reception I get from the builtin whip
> antenna... what sort of antenna would best be suited to my needs? 

There's basically two ways you can go: a wire antenna or an active
antenna.  A wire antenna is made of wire, as the name indicates, and
takes the form of an end-fed wire, or a center-fed dipole.  You can
but multiband dipoles from the sw stores, or make your own.  An
end-fed longwire is much simpler; it's just wire, the longer the 
better, and the higher the better.  The wire can even be very thin
enamled wire, giving you a virtually "invisible" antenna.  Attach 
on end of the wire to the antenna input of your receiver, and ground
the radio.  Make sure the antenna wire is not shorted to ground anywhere,
and use a lightning arrestor.

An alternative is an active antenna.  These are relatively short whips
or lengths of wire with a powered amplifier somewhere in the system.
These are much more compact, will work better than the built-in
whip on your radio, but generally not as well as a dipole or longwire.
These cost from around $75 up to maybe $150 depending on features
and manufacturer.  Some include tuning and gain controls, while others
are just "black boxes".  Check out catalogs from sw retailers.  The one I 
know about is EEB in Vienna, VA.  Their number is 800-368-3270; call
and ask for their free catalog. It has all sorts of antennas (and 
everything else you can think of that has anything to do with shortwave listening).  Good luck.

Standard Disclaimer: I'm not connected with EEB, just a Frequent Shopper.

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* These are my opinions only.*
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Subject: Radio Rebelde
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:52:28 GMT


Does anybody know why Radio Rebelde has stopped signing on in the morning
on 5.025MHZ?  Up until a couple of weeks ago, they signed on at 1100UTC
every day.  They appeared to have transmitter trouble for a while and then
they stopped signing on.  Their 3.356MHZ transmitter is audible in North
Central Oklahoma, at times, but I have noticed that it is not always on the
air in the morning, either.  The 5.025 frequency is loud and clear most
evenings so I think they did get their transmitter problems fixed.
	Radio Rebelde is in Havana and I frequently listen to it for Spanish
practice.  Shortly before they stopped being audible in the morning, I
remember hearing a criptic message, several times, which began, "Attention,
column 2, collumn 2," and then another couple of sentences that my poor
Spanish could not pick up.  The voice quality was telephonic and male and
always proceeded by one of Radio Rebelde's endless station promos.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
From: michaelb@wshb.csms.com ( WSHB Operations Eng)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Portable SW recommendations around $200
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:28:20 GMT
Distribution: rec.radio.shortwave
Organization: WSHB, Herald Broadcasting Syn., Inc., Cypress Creek, SC, USA

>   Wow there are several radio fit your decription
>
>               panasonic rf-b65 +- $220
>                         rf-b45 +- $170  no ssb



Both of the Panasonics have SSB. The difference is that the RF-B65 tunes
continuously and the RF-B45 tunes in 5 kHz steps. What good is SSB in 5 kHz
steps you ask? Well, it also has a fine tuning knob on the side for tuning
up and down several kHz, so you actually get continuous coverage with the
RF-B45, too. It's just not as convient as with the RF-B65. Overall, I think
the RF-B65 is a better radio, but the RF-B45 is certainly no slouch.

Michael
-- 
Michael Batchelor--Systems/Operations Engineer #compliments and complaints
WSHB - An International Broadcast Station of   #   letterbox@csms.com
       Herald Broadcasting Syndicate, Inc.     #technical questions and reports
michaelb@wshb.csms.com         +1 803 625 5552 #   letterbox-tech@csms.com
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re:      Your Money segment - ABC News - 11/09/92
Date: 11 Nov 1992 06:44:10 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


Which reminds me - I saw an ad in IEEE Spectrum where Radio Free
Europe/Radio Liberty is trying to hire an engineer.  Haven't they
heard the cold war is over?
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can argue all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: mjohnsto@jenny.shearson.com (Mike Johnston)
Subject: Need help on cable for a Sangean 803a
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:21:42 GMT


During the Gulf War I purchased this radio and haven't used it much
since. I've recently started using it more and more and now I think
I'd like to start taping broadcasts. I recall that the DIN plug on the
side can be used for this purpose, given the proper cable and tape
recorder. Can someone tell me where I can get this cable? I haven't
seen anything ready-made in the Radio Shack catalogue although I recall
my TRS-80 used a nearly identical cable,though this was many years ago.

Thanks much.

MJ
--
Michael R. Johnston, System Administrator	mjohnsto@shearson.com
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." - G.B. Shaw
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:28:00 GMT
Reply-To:     "Thomas R. Sundstrom" <0002446376@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         "Thomas R. Sundstrom" <0002446376@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Radio Moscow

> Date:     Mon Nov 02, 1992  2:18 pm  EST
> From:     STUWILKR
>           EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414
>           MBX: STUWILKR%EKU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
> Subject:  Re: Radio Moscow World Service D92

> Has anyone recently received a QSL from Radio Moscow? I wrote
> to them twice last August and I am still awaiting a reply? I
> know that the mail service to and from Russia is bad, but this
> is unusual compared to the length of time it took me to receive
> a QSL the last time I wrote to them in January of 1992.  Also,
> does anyone know if RADIO MOSCOW has an address for electronic
> mail?  Thanks, Mark Wilkerson Eastern Kentucky University

Today (9 Nov) I received via airmail a Radio Moscow schedule for
the period starting 27 September. I can't tell from the postmark
when it was mailed.  RM has no email address that I know of.  If
you are on a system that sends telexes (such as MCI Mail),
that's an easy way to send something quickly.

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Cassette control socket on Sony SW7600
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:29:53 GMT

Mike Barrett writes:
> Does any one know how the cassette control socket on a Sony 7600
> radio works?

I just hacked my way into the switch port on my SW-55; yours may
work the same.  The radio switches with a transistor, so polarity is
important; the positive side of the switched voltage must be on the
tip of the plug.  The ground side (sleeve) *must* be connected to the
ground side of the Line Out jack; the switch port somehow uses the
ground side of Line Out to complete the circuit.  So it's real easy; 
just make up two jumpers: one mini-to-mini going from Line Out
to the cassette recorder MIC or AUX input (AUX works best on my
recorder; your mileage may vary), and one mini-to-micro plug
from the switch out to the remote jack on the recorder; on mine, 
the positive side of the recorder's switched voltage was already on
the center or tip side of the circuit.  You should check yours with
a voltmeter, but my guess is that it's more or less standard. If yours
is the other way 'round, just wire the plug up backward; sleeve-to-tip.
Mine works great.  Good luck...

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From: cmorford@umbio.med.miami.edu (Chuck Morford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: WRTH Source?
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:47:43 GMT
Organization: Gene Police - Intelligence Division

mjohnsto@jenny.shearson.com (Mike Johnston) writes:
: 
: I'm just dusting off the shortwave after a lengthy absence and
: I want to get a copy of the WRTH. A few of the places I've called
: say it's out of stock. Does anyone know where I can get a copy?
: Should I just hang loose and wait for the new edition? Does
: anyone know when WRTH '93 will be out?
: 
: Michael R. Johnston, System Administrator	mjohnsto@shearson.com

I asked my local radio shop that same question just yesterday (Saturday)
They said they were expecting it sometime next month....
(International Radio Systems...Miami,FL)

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From: fargher@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Fargher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: 2010 and Dipole Antenna
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:08:18 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

I'm a newcomer to SWL and would like some information about using an
Antenna Supermarket trapped dipole antenna with a Sony 2010
portable receiver.  The 2010 takes a mini-phono plug input for an external
antenna.  The dipole has two wires (zip cord) for the input.  So I
soldered one onto the tip lead of a mini-phono plug and the other to the
jacket lead.  Is this correct?  Somebody told me that the jacket lead of
the 2010 was for grounding. This makes me wonder if I'm taking advantage
of the dipole or do I have only half the dipole working as a fancy
longwire antenna?






   
From: Diane.Tangeman@f100.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Diane Tangeman)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Swl Radios
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:37:13 -0600

Hi all!  Got a number of messages from you in answer to my plea for help
in purchasing a receiver for swl.  My sysop here tells me I am unable to
reply to you each individually because of the system (I am new to 
BBS-ing so you probably understand this better than I!) and that 
hopefully those of you who responded will read this.  Most of you 
suggested I get a copy of Passport ot World Band Radio which I will do
"post haste".  It seems that the Sangean 803A is very popular and I
think the decision will be between it and the Realistic DX-390 which I
looked at over the weekend.  All right now, you all, give me the reasons
why I should take one over the other!  For the gal who was asking me to
forward on my messages to her about this I hope this will help.  If 
anyone has an idea how I can post directly to you, EDUCATE me please!
Thanks!  Appreciate all your help!

 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)