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From: orr@engr.latech.edu (John Orr)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Women and Buses
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:44:43 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University

In article <13090@ecs.soton.ac.uk> lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L) writes:

>Women are like London Buses - you wait for an eternity, and then
>three come along at once!

>Just my thought for the day ...

>(Note, this is not intended as sexism: women, no doubt, feel the
>same about men!)
>-- 
>Lawrence McIlhoney Esq., Department of Electronics
>University of Southampton, United Kingdom.
>"Live fast, die young, leave a good-looking corpse -
>preferably someone else's."  E-mail lm89@uk.ac.soton.ecs

You obviously don't have the benefit of the American Perspective on Women 
and the way they work. There is a sign that floats just above a man's head. 
It is invisible to the male species, but all females can see it.  This sign 
is connected via satelite to a massive computer database that contains the 
names of all men and their status, i.e. single, married, dating, engaged, 
etc.  The moment a man is "taken", be it to dating, engagement, or marriage, 
the sign flashes his current status.  This is a beckoning to all females to 
notice him and his new status and try to get in on the action, as it were.  
The reverse of this is also true.  If you are dating (etc.) and you break it 
off with you woman, the sign flashes this new status and all the women who 
had been coming out of the woodwork before, now will not give you so much as 
a "Get lost, creep!"  This seems to be universal and has happened to every 
male since the model first came out.  My only suggestion is, be sure you 
have the one you want, ignore the rest, and enjoy them trying anyway!  It's 
fun to watch a woman who you love run around quasi-jealous over some other 
woman who would really like your affections, even though she knows that you 
are already taken.
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    Systems Engineer        |desire men, take the private members of a Woolfe,
 Louisiana Tech University  |and the haires which doe grow on the cheekes, or
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                            |her to drinke when she knowethe not, and she shal
                            |desire no other man." - Albertus Magnus
                            |  I would think this would annoy the "Woolfe."
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From: ag1v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Army Boots revisited, then I shut up
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:49:24 GMT
Organization: Engineering Design Research Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I agree with the idea that the sons should not be punished for the
sins of the fathers. And I disagree with the idea that a woman or
minority should always get the job if their qualifications are equal
to a white man also applying. If you want to get picky I could 
advocate a situation where a 50/50 alternation happens between 
equally qualified white men and other minorities.

But really, it's all sort of pointless because equal qualifications is
an oxymoron.

I do however have a question. Mr. Steiner says:
> of others. and i -never- judge based on a silly thing like
> gender.

Never? I find this hard to believe. Not because I doubt you are
for equal rights. I don't. But our world is hardly egalitarian and
there are lots of influences on our lives that keep us from being
totally non-judgemental with respect to gender.

ag
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From: dahead00@nx28.mik.uky.edu (Zippidy Do Dah)
Subject: Re: "What are you thinking, dear?"?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:01:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.233316.10395@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp  
(Rebel without a clue.) writes:
> 
> 	I know this was covered earlier, but I missed most of the thread  
as I
> didn't think it would apply to me.  Fortuantely, things change, and I am  
in a 
> situation now where I want to know as much about what was covered in  
this 
> thread that I am talking about.  What is this thread?
> 
> 
> 	Why do you women ask us men what we are thinking?
> 
CONTROL  CONTROL  CONTROL  CONTROL  CONTROL  CONTROL  CONTROL  CONTROL

They want to be sure you are thinking about them at all times!!!!!!!!

My answer: I'm thinkin about how good you look buck naked........

Zippy D  Who prefers naked does to naked bucks anyday
From: s342063@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: <None>
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:25:25 GMT


****** You can't change the past but you can certainly ruin the present by
worrying over the future.******

I have now adopted this philosophy....maybe it will help someone else. :)

Actually I'll let you all in on a little secret..so long as you promise not to
tell anyone else....I read it on the wall in one of the toilets here at Uni...
but I thought it was so good that I would share it with anyone else who is
interested :)

Kerryn.
S342063@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
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From: naveena@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Naveena Michael)
Subject: Summer Romance
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:59:32 GMT

Dawna
	My sincere advice to you would be to break it up with this guy.
If he hasnt written even after your two letters, it seems like he is not
really interested in you... I think you should try to forget about the whole
thing ( which is easier said that than no doubt) and find someone else for 
yourself.  Start seeing other guys. 
	Hope that little bit of advice helps
Take care
Naveena Michael
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: How do you tell a girl your feelings?
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:19:02 GMT
Reply-To: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Andrew Vernon) writes:
> In <1at65rINN6cr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cf017@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher P Readence) writes:
>>

[Old old story of longstanding friends where one person, as usual the man :-),
falls in love with his friend]

>>>We're really good friends, and I know she'll still be a friend if
>>>I tell her my feelings, but I'm not sure if I'd be able to if she
>>>tells me "LJBF".  What should I do, just come out and say it, that
>>>I'm crazy about her now, or should I first do a little probing to
>>>see if she's still interested?
> 
>Guideline number one: DON'T DO IT!!!! Every female friend I've approached
>in this situation, save one, has turned on me. Enjoy what you have and
>for God's sake don't mess it up.
> 
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=  A n d r e w   V e r n o n =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

As others have said too, I have to agree with Andrew. I've only lost
friends through this.

You'll find plenty of people who haven't though, and have instead found
wonderful relationships through spilling the beans about your love.
How do you tell what's going to happen? Who knows. I know I don't from the
evidence.

Whatever you do, do it sensitively & gradually. Creep up on her -- in a	
*nice* way! :-) Just be prepared for the worse. *Really* prepared.

Alternatively, really consider whether you can lose her friendship. Oh,
and as an earlier poster in a different thread said -- make sure you're
listening to what your brain's saying and not your dick. (It happens!)

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From: psn6493@usl.edu (Nagpal Prakash S)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:26:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.162525.1@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au> s342063@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au writes:
>
>****** You can't change the past but you can certainly ruin the present by
>worrying over the future.******
>
>I have now adopted this philosophy....maybe it will help someone else. :)
>
>etc.......

What happens if you work for the Planning commission?
Just a thought.

Prakash
prakash@usl.edu
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hello dude
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From: marcia@netcom.com (Marcia)
Subject: Re: Balance
Organization: The Dolphin Conspiracy, Phase II
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:56:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.005539.11139@funlwb.enet.dec.com> ollis@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Ollis) writes:
>How do you balance the obvious opposites that you and your SO have?
>For example, I like to stay home and watch a video with my SO, she however
>loves to go out and party.. 

It depends on a couple of things: what the differences are, and how important
the activities are to each person.

If they differences are in areas of major life choices, like one partner
wants to be a missionary and the other wants to be a tycoon, I don't think
you can balance it. Sometimes the incompatibilities are just too great.

If they are activities, etc., it depends on the importance, and how each
partner feels about it. If one partner adores Activity A, does Activity A
almost every weekend, does activities to prepare for Activity A during the
week, talks about Activity A at every dinner out with friends, and the other
partner doesn't like Activity A....we have a problem. In this case, the
other partner just doesn't fit into the first partner's life, which revolves
around Activity A (for some value of Activity A :-).

If it's a little less drastic, where you don't mind Activity A, and want
to do Activity A sometimes, but not all the time, and your partner will also
do your pet Activity B sometime, you can work out a compromise. Sometimes
you do A, sometimes B, and other times C, which you both like. How much of
each you do depends on the people...sometimes it a one for one correspondence,
sometimes the partners take time picking activities, sometimes one suggests
and the other has veto power....it depends what you two think is fair.

That's actually part of what is meant by the "work" in a relationship - 
it's work to find a compromise you both are happy with.
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From: naveena@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Naveena Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: SORRY FOLKS!!!
Keywords: Postnews misbehaving
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:27:14 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

Hi Folks
	Something is terribly worng with the my news server I guess.  Thats why
every time I try posting something , it takes a jolly long time, and then I get
irritated and terminate the process.  It tells me quite specifically that the
article was not posted and then goes on to do just that.
That is why the three postings of " summer romance". 
Please bear with me till I get it checked out
Naveena
From: moore7004@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Won't have Sex with a Fat Guy
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:01:24 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <7650@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, slayer@gl.pitt.edu (Deborah) writes:
> 
>  Well I would like to put about 2 cents in here okay.. Hasn't anyone
>  everyheard the expression "it's what inside that counts" ?
>  I can not believe how insensitive people can be...

Yes, I've heard this expression; I have yet to confirm its relative validity,
however.  I've also heard the expression "what you don't know can't hurt you"
-- and if the thing that I don't know happens to be what's inside and counting,
then I'm afraid I disagree.
From: soconnor@ziff.com
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Gifts for Men?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:58:28 GMT
Organization: Ziff-Davis, Medford MA

In article <67515@cup.portal.com>, Gleeep@cup.portal.com (Dave - Silon) writes:
  
> Colorforms; LEGO Castles; 
> glow-in-the-dark stars to stick on the ceiling
> above his bed;  hershey
> kisses and love notes hidden all around his apartment;
> a memorable embrace.

I know this is gifts for men but I would love it if I was given any 
these..  Even silly putty would be cool...  

>  
> Hmmmmmm.  It was a very strange experience to write this.
> If anyone wants to get me a HOUSE on my birthday, 
> let me know, but I will settle for the sea monkeys...
> and don't anyone try and tell me that they're NOT real
> monkeys, that they WON'T wave to me through the glass
> and that they CAN'T build underwater cities.  :-)
>  
> - Dave


Shannon  :)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: billj@seas.smu.edu (Snugglupagus)
Subject: Re: An emerald as an engagement ring?
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:56:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.215029.16299@husc13.harvard.edu> peregrin@husc13.harvard.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.200412.624@news.uiowa.edu>, haferman@icaen.uiowa.edu (Jeff Haferman) writes:
>> 
>> Question:
>> 
>> What do you think about this?  Will an emerald ring lose its
>> "appeal" after a while?  I figure I'll just let her think
>> about it for a few weeks and see how she feels then.
>> 
>
>	An emeral engagement ring is fine.  The only thing I would
>like to point out (from experience) is that an emerald is much softer
>stone than a diamond.  Therefore it will chip and scratch.   Therefore
>it is not a good stone for day-to-day wearing.

emeralds are EXTREMELY easy to damage.  i've even heard of someone
damaging theirs with ordinary hairspray.  8-(  how about a ruby or a
sapphire?  they're much harder and look nicer too (imho).

of course, if you don't plan on being married too long...an emerald
would do just fine.  :-)


snugglupagus
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SMU School of Engineering and Applied Science, Dallas, TX 75275
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From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Subject: Re: Am I in Love?
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 22:29:33 GMT

In article <1bjsfmINN1bc@rave.larc.nasa.gov> roberso@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (Steve Roberson) writes:
>I've been seeing my girlfriend now for six months.
>
>I thought all this time that I loved her, but now I'm not so sure.
>
>We both have commitment, honesty, trust, and communication so what is
>missing?
>
>I almost feel like I'm trying to convince myself that I love her.
>
>But I also feel like the one I'm supposed to be with is still out there.
>
>Has any one gone through something like this because if you have I sure would
>like some advice!
>
>
If your relationship is in good shape, and you haven't felt this way 
a long time, I would not worry about it. Your emotions toward your
girlfriend are going to ebb and flow, and right now you are probably
feeling a little guilty that they aren't stronger. Have some faith that
your relationship will endure, and in due course those feelings 
should come back.

If you want to do something about it, I would think that trying to
lighten things up by doing fun things might help. You may have 
been trying to hard lately, to make up for the feeling you think
is missing.

Michael.
From: plotkin@vu-vlsi.vill.edu (Mark Schaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Long Distance/HS-College Relatinshps.
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:19:20 GMT
Organization: Villanova University

Well, apparently in article <1992Oct12.132319.727@brtph560.bnr.ca>, baptiste@bnr.ca (Michael Baptiste P275) wrote:
>[...]
>If this relationship is right, it will continue even if you aren't
>on the phone constantly with her.  Do things that may not cost much
>but show you are thinking of her (cards, stuffed animals, random other
>things, even letters)  A written letter can say a lot.  Let her know
>that you are thinking of her, yet don't smother her.

YES! YES! YES!  Lot's of letters...and e-mail does not count!

Also, try sending things with your letters.  For example, my RP does not
have access to the net, so I will send the occasional humorous posting
from rec.humor.  Does she like music? humor? Physics Review Letters?
(Just don't forget that the letter is the *important* thing.)
The occasional goody can do wonders to brighten her day and show her that
you care, and it can fit in an envelope.

Oh, as far as long-distance relationships: they can work, but they can fail
so easily.  Just don't try too hard, and try to relax.  Remember, if you
love her, and she loves you, you can trust her to be there (and vice versa).


-- 
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 Mark Schaffer                         Department of Chemical Engineering
 (Class of 1992)                       Villanova University 
 164485913@ucis.vill.edu               Villanova, PA  19085
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From: "Raistlin Majere" <p00139@psilink.com>
Subject: A Romantic Tale
Organization: Tower of High Sorcery - Palanthas
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:16:32 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

	**WOOPS!**...that's "disease", not "desease"..........

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		"Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
		 And thus the native hue of resolution
		 Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
		 And enterprises of great pith and moment
		 With this regard their currents turn awry,
		 And lose the name of action."
					- William Shakespeare, "Hamlet"
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	      Raistlin Majere @ Tower of High Sorcery - Palanthas
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From: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au (Murray Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: How do you tell a girl your feelings?
Date: 9 Oct 92 05:01:28 GMT
Reply-To: muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1at65rINN6cr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cf017@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher P Readence) writes:



>I've known her for almost 5 years now.  I think she liked me when
>we first met, but I wasn't interested because she was 16 and
>I was 20.  Aside from the age issue, she was and is my closest
>friend -- we think think almost totally alike.

>In the past year, I've noticed her acting more and more like "more
>than a friend".  I told her I wanted to be friends, and that's all,
>but I've noticed that my feelings for her have been leaning
>towards romantic love and not, as I've told her, platonic love.

>We're really good friends, and I know she'll still be a friend if
>I tell her my feelings, but I'm not sure if I'd be able to if she
>tells me "LJBF".  What should I do, just come out and say it, that
>I'm crazy about her now, or should I first do a little probing to
>see if she's still interested?

Just make 100% sure that she *is* interested in you as more than a friend.

A good friendship is a terrible thing to lose.

Just ask yourself if you are willing to take the chance.

Cheers,
Murray
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  University of Queensland                 How many lightbulb jokes does it
  Brisbane, Australia                      take to change the subject?
Organization: Engineering Design Research Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 09:41:01 -0400 
From: "Andrea B. Gansley-Ortiz" <ag1v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Army Boots?
	<1992Oct8.171744.2271@bvc.edu>

Angela writes:

>> This does not sound like Feminism to me it sounds more like equality, a
>> concept I agree with whole heartedly (sp?)
>> 
>> 					 Paul
>> 					=----=
> 
>Funny, that's exactly what feminism is all about!  You're beginning to 
>understand.

I would argue that point. I specifically don't call myself a feminist
because of the large feminist organizations which have strayed from the
original works of the movement into a man-hating, woman-supremist rhetoric.

NOW comes to mind. Or at least the voices of NOW that get national attention.

Besides the fact that it's more important what I do as a woman than what I
label myself. 

ag



Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: Joan Balser
Subject: Re: Advice-Summer romance
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:36:23 GMT

In article <BvM0t3.D5@mach1.wlu.ca> maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) w
>During the summer I met a guy - we worked very closely together and got
>along really well.  Of course romance bloomed.  When we met I knew he had a
>girlfriend, but was under the impression that the relationship wasn't going
>to last much longer.  

Dawna,

First off, you have made certain that the relationship with his 
girlfriend was TOTALLY over with before you decided to go further
with him.  

From a woman's point of view (and experience from) I find that 
our emotions take over  logical thinking.  Think of this:  If 
you were to strip away the the love making sessions and the oh
so wonderful words he has said to you, what do you have left to 
actually say you have a strong relationship?  Everything is always
wonderful in the beginning but passion and those special things 
you do to each other evenutally die and settle into a routine.  

If you have already written 2 letters from him and no response, 
you are wasting your time with him.  Obviously, he is trying to 
AVOID you.  As much as it hurts, you are only hurting yourself!
FORGET HIM!  Take it from someone who went through the same thing.
I wasted so much time crying over this jerk to find out he didn't
really wanted to see me anymore. 

Believe me!  There are lots of guys just looking to meet girls.  Don't
sell yourself short. There are a lot of nice guys out there! 

Take care,

Joan   

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From: roberso@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (Steve Roberson)
Subject: Thanks for the advice! 
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Keywords: Thanks for the advice!
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:04:47 GMT
X-Posted-From: asdsun.larc.nasa.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

To all those who reponded to "Am I In Love?" I give my thanks.

Good news though...

My girlfriend and I had a long talk.  Some of the rules are going to change.
We are still going to stay together but we are going to do some changing
that will help the both of us.

The night I posted my article I had a disturbing dream.

I dreamt that my girlfriend was involved in an accident and we were at the
hospital.  I could see her on the operating table in emergency room.
The doctors went in and the door was shut.  About fifteen minutes later
a doctor came out and just shook his head and walked away.  I woke up
and never grieved so hard in all my life.

I think that answered my question as to whether or not I loved her.

I do.

Steve
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