HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: How to install SBMMPM?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:08:36 GMT

parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:


>Anybody know how to play a CD through the SB though? I don't want to keep
>on switching my speakers from the CD drive speaker plug to my SB output.
>I'd rather like to leave them plugged into the SB permanently and send all
>sounds out of them.

Boy, are we on the same wavelength or what ? I just solved that problem 
yesterday !
Ill describe the fix for the toshiba, but it can work for any drive:

The plug on the SB card looks like :

     ---     ---
     | 1 2 3 4 |
     -----------

1 = ground
2 = left channel
3 = ground
4 = right channel

Get the cable from creative labs for their own CD ($6.00) direct from CL.
Use a small screw driver to remove the leads from one end, and plug the other
into the blaster. Your free end should now be:

white = left
black = ground
red = right

Find the output connector on the back of your CD (the audio output !). Find
the pinout in the manual (or get it from the maker). You should be able to 
just slide the connectors from the SB cable onto the male pins. Worst case,
you would have to cut the ends and solder them on. Be sure that you dont have
a short resulting from the bare pins touching (use tape if required).
Note: if you don't have any connector for audio on the back, you can solder
directly to the back of the headphone jack in the front (requires opening
the unit).
Note: don't do this on Creative labs own CD ! RDFM !

Works great as decribed on a toshiba 3301 CD rom drive (the recommended
os/2 2.0 drive).

                                  GOOD LUCK ! [sam]

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From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: Seeking General Information
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:23:54 GMT

As always, check the OS/2 FAQ located on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

Look in /pub/os2/all/info/faq


______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
From: swknasri@nuscc.nus.sg (Sriram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Wow, those Trident Drivers do work!
Date: 10 Dec 92 11:36:18 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kgs@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Kok G Sang) writes:
: In article <enk2.23.723910047@po.cwru.edu> enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:
: >In article <Dec.9.01.29.08.1992.24181@clam.rutgers.edu> steuer@clam.rutgers.edu (robert Steuer) writes:
: >>I still am having trouble
: >>displaying 256 color GIF images in DOS boxes, I get an error msg that
: >>says that the system can't support this program running in a window,
: >>can't continue and then is SUSPENDS the program. Ugh! I thought I
: >>would finally be able to have GIF image in tiny DOS boxes!  Has anyone
: >>gotten this to work?  Well, its getting on to about 1:30AM here, so
: >>later!
: >
: >Yes, I have gotten it to work.  Are you using WinGIF 1.4?  I am.
: 
: I think Robert is referring to dos gif viewers, not windows gif viewers. 
: I also get the same problem with dos gif viewers (svga.exe), but the gif
: pictures does pop up in a nice scrollable screen which I can switch back
: to dos to return to my program.
: 
: Kok
  I have observed similar behaviour not only with DOS gif viewers but also
if I Alt-Home from a full screen DOS session with Word 5 (graphics mode).
If I Alt-Home back to the full screen, the screen has garbage (card is a 1
M Trident 8900c); I would like to know if there is a fix for the garbage
(this problem was there prior to these drivers).  Also, I cant seem to get
seamless windows in either of the SVGA modes; the fullscreen WINOS2 is ok
though; in seamless, a DOS window appears, there is disk access and then
nothing happens ( I have to close it).  I followed the instructions in the
(modified by SBW) zip file.  I did get seamless VGA with GA+SP.  Any
suggestions? 

Sriram
From: joe2@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:18:11 FWT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CDROM and SCSI info wanted
Reply-To: <joe2@vnet.ibm.com>
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <BzB7Lp.3Hv@hpuerca.atl.hp.com>

In <BzB7Lp.3Hv@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> Simon Fowler writes:
>In article <168BDE3E2.BOB@ysub.ysu.edu>, BOB@ysub.ysu.edu (Bob Quigley) writes:
>> I am thinking of installing a TRANTOR T228 SCSI adapter, a Toshiba XM3301
>> CDROM drive (the CD Porta-Drive from CD Technology) and an internal SCSI
>> hard disk in my IBM PS/2 Model P70 portable. What I need to know is if the
>> TRANTOR T228 with the Toshiba XM3301 is supported by OS/2? I would buy the
>> complete adapter-CDROM drive set from CD Technology (this came as a promotion
>> with the November PDK) but the TRANTOR is a short card that won't use
>> up the only full slot available in the P70.
>
>I have the T128 card with my NEC CDR36 and it works fine. Make sure that you get
>the latest Trantor drivers (after 9/15/92) and the OS2CDROM software (I don't
>know if this is required for the 3301 or not, but it is for the NEC).
>
>simon

I also have a CDR-36 with a T128. The problem with the
Trantor driver, is that it does not use the IRQ and DMA channels,
available if you add 2 jumpers. It seems to use a polling method,
like DOS. So whenever you use the CD-ROM, it really eats all CPU
cycles. That's why I prefer the Adaptec adapter for my NEC CDROM!

   -Joel Armengaud
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Multimedia Support for Tandy Sensation!?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:49:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.012614.17098@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>>>I just got (tonight) a Tandy Sensation! multimedia machine and I'm
>>>wondering whether os/2 and the IBM multimedia support will run on it.
>>Can you describe the system, component by component?
>25 MHz 486sx (upgradable with overdrive)
>4 meg ram (upgradable to 32 meg)

More RAM needed, of course.

>24 bit video (video memory is 512k, upgreadable to 1 meg)

Chipset?

>107 meg ide disk (2nd ide disk not possible as far as I can tell)

OK.

>cdrom drive

Brand?  Brand of adapter?  SCSI?

>2400 baud modem, 4800 baud fax (send only as far as I can tell)

OK.

>3 expansion slots
>midi, digital audio (16 bit) with voice synthesis

Brand of adapter?  (Creative Labs, I hope?)

>LOTS of software (the main reason I bought this unit instead of some
>other)
>DTMF decoder built in

No matter what you should be able to get going with Win-OS/2 3.1 in a
specific DOS session under OS/2 2.0.  But, for the MMPM/2 side, I
still need a bit more information.

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From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: HA/5 faster than TE/2 with 32-bit Trident drivers
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:04:13 GMT

Well..... I use both TE/2 and HyperACCESS/5 V3.0. 
 
TE/2 seems to have better VT100.....but HA/5 has a lot of features that TE/2
doesn't have at all.
 
I just noticed that HA/5 is faster when using the 32-bit Trident drivers at
1024x768x256.
 
TE/2 seems to "scroll" even on a blank window, whereas HA/5 scrolls a bit
faster when it is scrolling, but is good and quick when writing to a blank
window.
 
When reading USEnet, the trn newsreader completely refreshes the window much
of the time, so using HA/5 is better than TE/2 for speed.
 
Can anyone explain why this is? I suppose that TE/2 uses a different method of
updating the screen...

BTW.... I have a Supra V32bis modem....so I like a quick screen refresh.

 
Steve

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From: nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1? (Why it may cost) READ THIS!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:06:21 GMT

harvey@waikato.ac.nz writes:

>Sorry if someone has posted this information already but I was speaking to our
>local IBM person on friday (11/12/92). She said that the reason that OS/2 2.1
>has been delayed is because there is a fight going on between IBM and
>microsoft. Basically microsoft is trying to force IBM to charge for the next
>update because they recon that in moving to 3.1 code they can charge more.

I thought they would have the price for the 3.1 code agreed on a long time ago.
Does IBM still have to negotitate the price they are going to pay MS for
the 3.1 code?


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From: jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy)
Subject: Re: Future of OS/2 and IBM????????????
Organization: Hamilton College - Clinton, NY
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:40:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.210437.934@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram) writes:
>	Hi, netters just a thought. IBM doesn't seem to be doing so hot
>financially they just said they are going to be laying off 25,000
>more people next year this after 40,000 have already been allocated
>to be laid off this year. Computer market analysts seem to think
>that IBM's profitability cannot improve unless global markets which
>are in recession improve as 30% of IBM's sales and 45% of their
>profits are from abroad. They doing some major reshuffling, what
>about the future of OS/2, how does it work into their long term plans.
>Will they be able to put in the same sort of resources into its
>support that Microsoft can put into NT. IBM has deep pockets so the
>impact is not being felt now. could some IBM'er comment on what is
>happening to the company and how as a customer I be confident that
>I will continue to receive the best operating system.
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ashwath Ram

I'm not an IBM, nor do I play on on tv.

I have no expertise in corporate financing or decision-making, but I was
mightily disturbed to hear this bad news about IBM and to read that
Akers (prez?) won't rule out further cuts/layoffs next year, since he
doen not think the economy (report didn't specify if he meant US or
worldwide) will improve in 1993.

OTOH, I did read that they will be reducing research and development of
mainframes and concentrating more on PC software.  So I assume that this
means that OS/2 will continue to be supported (perhaps even more
vigorously supported and marketed).  In fact, for OS/2, this may be
something of a blessing.  If they now see their future tied more closely
to OS's and other software, they might really get their act together.

I'm a Windows user (who tried OS/2 2.0), but that doesn't mean I don't
want OS/2 to improve to the point where it can win me over or that I
want it to fail.

jmalloy@hamilton.edu
 
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From: widow@camelot.bradley.edu (Shaun Burnett)
Subject: Re: Mutex (multiple session Unix terminal client...over modem!)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 17 Dec 92 06:59:43 GMT

In <17601@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) babbles:

>Hello fellow happy OS/2ers (and you unhappy ones too :-) )...
>I am somewhat amazed by the efforts of Ronald Wong and his DOS mode
>comm program called Mutex.  For those of you that don't know, it is a

	Just so you don't think Alok is raving mad :), I have also
	used Mutex.  I thought this was a great addition to OS/2.

	However, I just can't give up the functions I've become use to
	in my current DOS comm program.  For people running a
	"bare-bones" comm program, Mutex may be the comm program for you.


Shaun Burnett		    |	"You can't survive on a new planet with a
widow@camelot.bradley.edu   |	soul full of hope and fresh air you know."
OS/2--Happy Happy Joy Joy--OS/2		-  Dr. Who (Tom Baker)
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From: apoulsen@athena.mit.edu (Andy Poulsen)
Subject: Re: okidata 390 drvers
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1992Dec15.180600.4492@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:24:56 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:06:00 GMT, sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) said:

> In article <Dec13.161659.66370@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> pricejoh@CS.ColoState.EDU (john russel price) writes:
>> I need a Okidata 390 printer driver for my os2 2.0.  Any one know if
>> it available or not? Or where to get.
>> Pleas let me know.

> Does the manual refer to any Epson or Panasonic compatibility?  In
> other words, does it list a model number that this printer is the
> closest match to?

use the epson LQ driver -- i did it with no trouble (though i am not
using my 390 anymore).  good luck!!!!

andy

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: buhr@umanitoba.ca (Kevin Andrew Buhr)
Subject: Re: LOADHIGH: How does it work in OS/2 (simulated DOS) ?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:59:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.051839.12892@midway.uchicago.edu>
pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers) writes:
:
:  I am an old hand at using QEMM's loadhi commands, but I don't understand
:  the loadhigh command in OS/2's simulated DOS.  How does it work?
:  What can be loaded high?  How can you tell what is loaded high?
:
:  It looks like it is patterned after the LOADHIGH in DOS 5.0, which I
:  never learned anything about.  (I always thought DOS 5.0 was a crude
:  imitation/hack of DOS 3.31 with QEMM)

OS/2's simulated DOS is more or less just like DOS 5.0.  The LOADHIGH
command under OS/2 behaves the same way DOS 5.0's does.  Under OS/2, I
understand that it is possible (by dropping certain video modes and
what not), to increase the RAM available below the 1 Meg limit to well
beyond the best DOS 5.0 alone can deliver.  In this case, using
"LOADHIGH" under OS/2 may be superior to using it under DOS 5.0.

In short, though, the "LOADHIGH" command simply places the program
being loaded into a UMB (upper memory block) between the 640K and 1
Megabyte marks, if possible.  You must have the "UMB" setting on for
this feature to do anything special.  You can place "DOS=UMB" in your
OS/2 CONFIG.SYS (use "DOS=UMB,HIGH" if you want the DOS kernel loaded
into high memory, too), and you can manipulate the DOS session
settings individually (I think they're both under the "DOS_HIGH"
setting, but I don't remember).

If you want to see how DOS is using the memory, I believe you can run
the "MEM" command.  I know this command comes with DOS 5.0, and I
think it's included in the OS/2 simulated DOS distribution.  If so, it
will show you where the TSR's have been loaded, and which, if any, got
put in high memory.

Sorry I can't check for sure...

Kevin <buhr@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
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From: hilmera@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (Andrew Hilmer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA/MCA *or* Local Bus? Which is better for multitasking?
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:27:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1gtc6nINNafg
Organization: Computer Science Department, Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: storm.cs.orst.edu

In article <1992Dec18.154505.27040@lth.se> d89os@efd.lth.se (Ola Sigurdson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.231538.29868@blkbox> rbarnett@blkbox (Rick Barnett) writes:
>>goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes:
>>>Hello.
>>>I am curious as to which is better for OS/2, EISA/MCA or VL-Bus.(Vesa Local Bus)
>
>I thought this topic had been beaten to death already :-)
>An EISA system will get more tasks done per time unit than a local-bus
>thing  b e c a u s e  the CPU and bus aren't tightly coupled (and for a
>couple of other technical reasons).

I was having my monthly drool on the Computer Shopper and I saw an ad for
Local Bus EISA systems.  No joke.  Microlink, page 401 in the December
issue has their "ELB" systems in 50 and 33 Mhz flavors for $2248 and
$2048.  I realize that this isn't VESA compliant.  I'm curious, however, 
about whether it would be possible to graft VL and EISA.  From what I
understand about VL-ISA under OS/2, the usage of memory over 16MB cannot
be handled well because of the 24 bit DMA.  If there was a way to make
the VL standard work with EISA, I think that a considerable potential
advantage could be had in the next few years.

I know that the VL standard is not the optimum standard, but I think that
because of its future market base, it will be difficult for better systems
based on PCI or maybe a PC variant of Quickring to get a toehold.  If VL
can have its weaknesses limited by a marriage with EISA, it might have a
chance to avoid being cursed and villified in the future when >16MB systems
become common.

andy


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From: mts@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sean Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: COM Port Help Please
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:30:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec21.013036.21894
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	Does anybody know why the following setup of my COM ports and Iterrupt settings doesn't work:
		IRQ	Address		Remarks
	COM1:    4	  3F8		Currently my mouse
	COM2:    5	  2F8		This is the one I'm having 
						problems with.
	COM3:	 3	  3E8		Boca 14.4K Modem

	CD-ROM	 2 	DMA Channel 3	Mitsumi CD-ROM

My main problem is COM2.  Before I had it set to IRQ3, 2F8 and I believe this 
worked.  Currently I only use this port to connect to my HP48SX Calculator but 
for some reason I can't get it to work.  I tried COM1 for the serial cable to 
calculator connection and it worked.  

Then I tried to install my mouse as COM2 and use COM1 to connect to my 
calculator.  But my mouse no longer worked and upon bootup OS/2 said COM3 not
installed, Address not available.

If anybody has any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated.  Should I try
a different address for COM2?  Possible choices are 3E8, 2F8, or 2E8.  I don't
want to change my COM3 becuase before PMCOMM never worked and now it does.

One last question, What is a DMA Channel and how do I determine if my computer
has any available.

Sean Milligan
mts@hardy.u.washington.edu
Student, Department of Mechanical Engineering
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and floppy CRC errors
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:17:05 GMT

In article <1gigpvINN4g9@morrow.stanford.edu> GG.MPD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Michael Durket) writes:
>Has anyone else noticed that OS/2 seems to have problems with
>excessive amount of CRC errors and data checks on floppies that
>are perfectly readable under DOS? I've had this happen to me on
>too many machines and with too many floppies to think it's not
>an OS/2 problem. Ejecting the disk and re-inserting it doesn't
>always cure it. Is anybody at IBM aware of the problem and/or
>is there an APAR out against it?

The situation has steadily improved to the point where I don't notice
any problems with the Service Pak.

If you want to apply the floppy patch individually, get ahold of the
IBM1FLPY patch file, available via anonymous ftp from
software.watson.ibm.com.

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From: kim@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Jaewan Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: G-Host plus 32bit graphics accl. driver
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:45:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville

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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Any news on OS/2 2.1?
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:54:52 GMT

In <dposey.724397445@well.sf.ca.us> dposey@well.sf.ca.us (David Posey) writes:

>In <921214190925@rgam.sc.ti.com> 5692330@mcimail.com (Robert Gammon) writes:

>>In article <gershon.722754974@husc10> gershon@husc10.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:

>> >> Does anyone know when OS/2 2.1 will be released?  I assume some sort of
>> >> upgrade will be availible on the net.  Will that upgrade need 2.0 with
>> >> the CSD?
>> >> 
>> >> I heard there is a 2.1 internal beta floating around IBM.  What is 2.1
>> >> improving?
>> >> 
>> >> any information would be appreciated.
>> >>                                          --Ethan Gershon
>> >>                                          gershon@husc.harvard.edu

>>OS/2 2.1????? What is this beast???  I think what you really mean is the
>>Service Pack that is targeted for release late December/early January.  No
>>announcement has been made, to my knowledge, about the revision level of this
>>service pack.  Last word that I got from IBM was that it MIGHT be called 2.00.1,
>>or 2.01.   Lets use terminology that we can ALL understand, and that won't
>>get us the equivalent of a blank stare when talking to IBM about this on
>>the phone or in person.  All we know now is that this is a Service Pack.

>>--
>>Regards,
>>Robert Gammon
>>(713)-274-3299       (voice)
>>(713)-274-2324       (fax)

>OS/2 2.1 is being discussed today in c.o.os2.advocacy - it is scheduled for
>release in late Feb/early March (pre-Comdex). The Service Pack is
>_already_out! 1-800-3IBMOS2 to order ($25, 14 disks).
>It is not 'golden' (a perfect release), there are known bugs already.
>It is faster in several ways, includes the 32-bit graphics engine, and
>includes the *beta* Windows3.1 code (which has been known to cause a few
>glitches).

One correction.  Unless things have changed, the SP does *NOT* include
the Windows 3.1 code, Beta or otherwise.

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