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From: pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: Re:      JRComm V1.02a and HandShake V2.2c
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations I/O Operator
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:00:06 GMT
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In article <I-AMIGA%92072023205482@RUTVM1.BITNET>,         Jeff Beaubien <IBY209@URIACC.BITNET> writes:
|> Are there any newer versions of JRComm and HandShake than the ones listed
|> in the message title?  Are they still shareware?  Where can I get them?
|> 
|> Thank You.
|> Jeff Beaubien
|> IBY209 at URIACC.URI.EDU

    Well, I have JRComm v1.02a and it is the one I uploaded to ab20 last
  year. I am a registered user and have not received a newer version. Jack
  Radigan is supposedly working on an update. It is still shareware. Look
  on wuarchive.wustl.edu for it. Wuarchive is a 24-hour a day FTP available
  site. Their IP number is 128.252.135.4 They also just added a 600 meg HD,
  so their readme and login message says go ahead and upload. You should
  read 'upload.readme' before uploading though.

    I have no info on Handshake.
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Subject:      Broken drives ...

Yo,

   Does anyone has a broken disk drive, since he has installed the
   WB2.0/2.1 (software version, not the roms).
   I had used it a few times, and now my df1: is broken, and 2 friends
   now also have a broken drive, since they used 2.0 a while.
   I don't think it's a coencidence when 3 people have a broken drive,
   round the same time, when they started using 2.0/2.1.
   Someone told me the step-rate is higher with 2.*, and older drives
   can't handle this.
   Anyone who can explain this ???

   PS. Does the listserv unsubscribes anyone when he can't be reached
   anymore for a time ? Because it could be our logins here will be deleted
   at the end of august, and I don't want to unsub now ...

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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:20:00 GMT
From:         Karl Wyer <MEC3WYERKS@TRENT.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: Amiga Dead...NOT!

	Having read the article the Mr. Robinson wrote I must
	concur with 90% of what he says.  I'm an avid Amiga fan
	but Mr. Robinson sums up Commodores total neglect of my
	favourite machine.  How many times have I heard the same
	comments uttered by Mr. Robinson repeated on this list.

	I even agree with his statement that Commodore are just too
	secretive.  They don't tell us what is going on, maybe
	because there isn't anything going on, but maybe someone
	knows different.  (Don't tell this list though, or you'll
	incur the wrath of Carolyn Scheppner, which happened with
	the last bit of pre-released info.)

	I agree with a previous comment, it does seem as though
	the article is slightly old.

	In my mind the Amiga IS DEAD.  With the scrapping of the
	A500 and the A500+ in favour of a 'games machine', the A600,
	then I see no future for the Amiga, which was, after all, a
	users machine.  I couldn't, and still can't, afford to buy
	an A2000 and I wouldn't buy the 'cheap' A600 toy.

	Karl.
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From:         Rudy Amid <a324amid@CDF.TORONTO.EDU>
Subject:      Pascal & Prolog compilers
X-To:         AMIGA@wunet.wustl.edu

Wuarchive has a directory for PCQ and Prolog which I assume should contain
the Pascal compiler and Prolog Interpreter/Compiler for the Amiga.
I'm currently working on Prolog for Unix so it'll be nice if I can get
a version for Amiga.

Please let me know where to find such the programs in question.

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From: elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee)
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Date: 29 Jul 92 03:49:56 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

I asked this before but I got NO replies!  Is the adaptec ACB4000 compatible
with the dataflyer 500?  My drive light seems to be on continuously when 
running the prep/format program.  Sometimes when the light goes off, the
drive shows up on the prep/format program.  It says something like Present
unknown type.  But then when I try to format it, at the end it doesn't work!
It just flashes and tells me that the format failed.  I've tried most possible
options in the prep -- different size drives, partitions, interleave, etc.
What's wrong?

-- 
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Subject:      Re: Amiga seen on PBS
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              92 1:25 pm

Actually, as i recall the lady from Blue Ribbon was asked at least
twice if the sound "came from the AMiga" and she said yes. In fact, she
said they did that Olympics bid for Atlanta with Amiga sound. Isn't that
professional enough? Most of the other guys on the show came accross, to me
at least, as kind of stodgy. "This is a PROFESSIONAL system and you have no
business using it otherwise." IBM stuff that isn't "professional" gets out
all the time on this show, but it isn't any knock on the Amiga. This is a
valid point I admit, it's just that I don't think SuperJam is "unprofessional."
What do you define as "pro" anyway? When I worked at IBM they cconsidered
Bookmaster, which is essentially a glorified version of Script MVS for
mainframes, as "professional." WordPerfect 5.0 was an "amateur" program that
a real pro publisher wouldn't mess with. Never mind that it did everything
Script did with considerably less fuss. If you mean "not good enough for
Phil Collins" I guess that's a valid point. But I see real live musicians
use programs like SuperJam for their music here at New Mexico State University,
and they at least consider themselves pretty profesisonal.

I had an argument ponce with a guy who hated AMigas because of the old "game
machine" thing. In one breath he actually said this: "The AMiga has too many
games and silly things like that. Now on MY machine, a REAL computer, we do
flight and combat simulation systems for the army, where you have a vehicle,
soldier or plane moving around nd sshooting enemy targets. The simulator has
graphics and sprites that act like the real thing, and can do different
things... ect etc..."

I needn't point out that he had just described several very good Amiga games.

Queen of Swords
dleland@nmsu.edu
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From:         Karl Bellve <KBELLVE@UMAB.BITNET>
Subject:      Softwares

Check out spice on ff573

-Karl
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From:         Cocteau <IBY141@URIACC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PCQ example programs
              23 Jul 1992 09:07:13 +0100 from
              <M.Brunton@UNIXA.NERC-SWINDON.AC.UK>

Regarding the request for a Zmodem protocol for VMS.  I'm also looking for
one,  but I'm running on an IBM VM/CMS system.  I'm getting REAL sick of
Kermit and need something a little less counterproductive.  ANY help
would be greatly appreciated.

Andrew Cerreault
IBY141@URIACC.URI.EDU
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From:         "Matt Sawyer" <SAWYER_M@PLU.BITNET>
Subject:      AutoMail v2.0 for VAX/VMS - Bitnet users

Are you ftp'ing via Bitnet and a VAX/VMS system?  Are you tired of the slow
and tedious process associated with using bitftp?  I have written a program
called AutoMail which will take the files sent from bitftp, extract them from
mail, strip out the message headers, append the file parts together, uudecode
the file, and (optionally) auto-download the files and then delete them!!!

If you're stuck in the same situation I was, now there's a solution that will
save you hundreds of hours of work and frustration!!!  If you're interested,
please send e-mail to:

                Matt Sawyer
                sawyer_m@plu.bitnet
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:44:21 EDT
From:         Brent Phillips <BPHILLIP@UTCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Cheap 3 1/2 DD disks!
              23 Jul 1992 16:37:23 BST from <lamptey@ACSE.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK>

Can someone tell me someplace in the US to get cheap DD 3 1/2 disks?
I won't pay more than 35 cents each... I won't to buy 100 to 200 disks.
Does anyone know a place that has them in stock?
Please leave a number too please...
MEI has gone up to 45 cents each!
Later,

                                 <<NIGHT STALKER>>
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:34:49 -0400
From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      Zmodem
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I was told that I could get Zmodem for my VAX/VMS account, thus
using JR-COMM to download from my VAX account. Can someone point
me the right direction to find Zmodem? (As opposed to KERMIT.)
Thanks
Carlos
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:08:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      RE: For Sale Update.

To answer the question regarding what the GVP series II AT286 module is,
to Scott Atha and others unfamiliar with the product, it allows
the AMIGA to emulate and IBM 286.  It plugs into the minislot of
a GVP harddrive........The unit, howerever has been sold.

What remains of the great "Sellathon" is a green monochrome magnavox
monitor...good condition....................$40.00 or BO
And, lastly....The GEOS software for the C64/128......I don't know...make an off
er...It is almost the whole GEOS library...ie...the wordprocessor..the deskpack.
..etc.

Jordan
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:43:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Power Supplies available

1 brand new and 1 good condition Amiga 500 power supplies available.
$30.00 or BO.
Send Email to BarnettJ@snysyrv1.bitnet
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:51:55 EDT
From:         Ernest Crvich <GENERAL@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      'Amiga Dead' article

   About that article by Philip Robinson :
   I'm almost positive the newspaper it came from is the (well-known)
Washington Post, the July 20, 1992 issue.  The reason I put 'Washington
Business' before was because (as I said) I only had a small section of
one page, and the little inscription in the lower right corner of the
page said 'Washington Business, July 20'.  I don't regularly read the
Washington Post, so I didn't realize the name was a *section* name of
the Post.
   That said, I believe this is one of the more widely-read American (and
elsewhere too) newspapers...hence the more threatening to the future Amiga
community.  (a small local paper that is only distributed in a small town
wouldn't have angered me so much)  Although the chances are rather small
that *someone* in the Amigaworld staff hasn't seen this, I may still yet
send 'em a copy.  ;)  Who knows...maybe this atrocious (if false) article
will spur Amiga's advertising/development groups into action (yeah, right).
   Until then, I'm investing in a muzzle for Mr. Robinson.  :)
   Later,
--
Ernest Crvich                    ''There is absolutely no reason one dog
general@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu            should be able to take a human in
crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu           a fight.'' -- overheard on campus
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:54:48 UT
From:         "Terry Jeffery International Product Support Group"
              <TGJ@UKHOUO.PRIME.COM>
Subject:      Re: Power Supplies available
X-To:         Info-Amiga List <I-AMIGA@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>

There seems to be quite a lot of selling going on these days.

How about giving us a clue as to your geographical location when putting
in these ads.

Regards

============================================================================
Terry Jeffery
International Product Support Group
Computervision (UK) Ltd
Basingstoke
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From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: Image Processing
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:17:55 GMT

In article <I-AMIGA%92073018542352@UTARLVM1.UTA.EDU> KBELLVE@UMAB.BITNET (Karl Bellve) writes:
>computer, therefore I am the one who decides the computer type. The main job
>of the computer will be doing histograms, density measurements and merging two
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>marker images. I chose the amiga, besides my familiarity with it, because of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the multitasking ability. The mac would tie itself up for hours decompressing i
>mages, during that time it would be a paper weight.

Can you give us much more information?
From: fineberg@wupost.wustl.edu (Charles M. Fineberg)
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Subject: Re: DECwindows on the Amiga
Date: 30 Jul 1992 17:58:20 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
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doleckma <DOLECKMA@SNYALFVA.BITNET> writes:

>I don't believe that there is a DECwindows package for the Amiga as yet.
>If you are looking for something very similar, check out the X-window
>package from GfxBase (sp?).

  To quote from the Sydesis flyer on DECnet for the Amiga...

---  Here it is!
X Window, DECWindows Support

TSSnet fully supports X11 from GfxBase, an X Window System for the
Amiga.  On an X11 screen on the Amiga, a user can operate DECWindows
applications running on VAX system, X applications on other systems
connected by DECnet, along with X client programs running on any Amiga
or on other X Window machines on the network.
---  End of quote.

You actually have many options when you want to run a windowing system,
but the components you need are:

An X server -
  In your case this runs on the Amiga and takes care of actually drawing
the screens and such.

A window manager -
  this is what allows you to move the windows around.  Some examples of
this are mwm (Motif window manager) - only runs under Motif, olwm
(OpenLook window manager) - only runs under OpenLook, twm - runs over
bare X11 and XUI (DECnet window Manager) - runs over DECwindows.

A transport -
  some way to get X commands from the X client (running on the remote
machine) to the X server (XAmiga in this case).  This can be DECnet or
tcp/ip.

A physical link -
  this can be a serial line (optionally through a modem) or Ethernet.
This is what sends the electrical impulses :-).

  So you can put together a lot of options for communicating with X.
Pick one from each category and stir.  From a planning perspective, the
only thing that differentiates DECWindows from X11R3 is the window
manager (well I've never found any of the other windowing managers that
wouldn't run a DECWindows application if you had the right fonts).
Right now twm, olwm and mwm all exist for the amiga in one stage of
developement or another and all will run your DECWindows applications.
You can even set the resources for your applications so that no matter
what window manager you choose, you can get any of the desired
DECWindows behaviours from them.  So, if you have some way to connect
to a VMS or Ultrix host from your Amiga with a fair degree of speed
(local serial line, high speed modem or ethenet) and cooperation from
that system's manager you can call GfxBase and order the appropriate
parts to run DECWindows on your Amiga.

  For more information you can contact GfxBase at:

GfxBase, Inc.			Phone: (408)262-1469
1881 Ellwell Dr.		Fax:   (408)262-8276
Milpitas, Ca.  95035		email: cbmvax!boing!dale@uunet.UU.NET

They sell all of the necessary components.
  Hope I haven't confused anyone too badly,
	Charlie
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:29:00 EDT
From:         Jim Loomis <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Commodore's Reply

Karl Wyer raises some good points.  I would like to echo his hope that this
incident will cause CBM to wake up and smell the burned toast.

(Karl, Please sign your messages at the end. JL)

Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
        Director, Telecommunications Facilities
        Roy H. Park School of Communications
        Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY 14850-7256 USA
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From:         Ernest Crvich <GENERAL@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Philip Robinson blind ?
              22 Jul 1992 14:43:09 EDT from <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM>

On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:43:09 EDT Daniel Roman said:
>Sounds like you ought to write a letter to the editor demanding they
>apologize for and retract that comment.  Send a copy of the letter and
>article to Commodore and AmigaWorld.  That type of irresponsible comment

   Good idea!  Although I'll have to find the full newspaper (a friend
of mine cut the article from his paper, so I don't actually have the
info about the newspaper itself yet...) at the library first.
   I would be surprised, though, if the guys at Amigaworld don't already
know about this atrocity.  But, you never know...
   I'll look into the matter and let the list know if I can make any
progress... (for those that may be interested)
   BTW, someone asked about where to get this 'Washington Business' paper.
I will find out the circulation information, etc. when I get the issue
in question and post that info as well.
   Later,
--
Ernest Crvich                    ''There is absolutely no reason one dog
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:38:36 -0400
From:         Dan Riley <dsr@LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Robinson 1 Commodore 0 (well, a half, maybe) *:-)
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Karl Wyer <MEC3WYERKS@TRENT.AC.UK> writes:
>The A600 has surface mounted chips, so
>people who buy this machine will be stuck with the operating system, that's
>if Commodore ever upgrade WB2.04 or WB2.1.

The ROM chip in the A600 is socketed (it is the only chip in the A600 that is
in a socket) (at least according to the info I have--I haven't actually seen
the insides of an A600 to confirm this).

--
Dan Riley                          Internet:   dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu
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From:         d lamptey msc <lamptey@ACSE.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK>
Subject:      CPU's and Mostra.

CPU:
Programs like Xoper show a percentage of CPU time. It does not always
add up to 100%. Does the 68000 _ever_ have time to sit around twiddling
thumbs with so many tasks queuing up for attention ?


Mostra:
What does it do ?

Derryck.
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From:         d lamptey msc <lamptey@ACSE.SHEFFIELD.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: New Utils...

 RE: New Utils...


> ARTM, Blackhole, PM, JM, screensnap (did people have problems with this ? )
> AL.
How about telling US what THEY do?! ;-)

Well, I thought it might be a waste of bandwidth since they are in the
Fish docs that we get through the net;8-), but since u ask...

ARTM - Amiga Real Time Monitor. (ff652, i think) It is like Xoper,
but gives you the feeling of more control. You can for example click
on objects (tasks, windows, etc) you wish to examine, and freeze/remove
changepri etc. (you get the idea). I think it was written with WB2 in mind.

Blackhole - (ff???) Is like the wastebasket type icon on the neXTs.
It runs as a process, though, I think.
(How does trashcan operate..? )
Blackhole has some interesting options.

PM, JM are also task monitoring utilities. JM (STeve Koren) is CLI run, and
offers commands like ps, stat, uptime, and _many_ options. Very tasty!!
PM is something like the Performance meter that OpenWindows users
are used to. You can set Tooltypes so that it monitors any particular task
or (I think) several tasks in the same window.

screensnap - allows you to save screens to IFF files. I saved some Amiga
screens to IFF, (ADPro -> Postscript) and ran it off our PS printer in the
lab. (screenshot of ARTM). The guys in our lab (Parallel & RealTime systems)
are beginning to realize that the underlying architecture of the Amiga is
_far_ more solid than meets the eye!!!
(If only it was supported by a faster processor..)


BTW; In "Whats New in Computing" (latest issue is on multimedia), 1/3 of
a column was used to mention the (AmigaVision, Scala, DP4) package that
C= is putting out for multimedia purposes.
I was not that impressed, but I guess its better than the "nothing" we
get at the mo...? 8-(

Derryck
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