From: el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (This Space for Rent)
Subject: Re: Ken's uppercut combo
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:23:31 GMT

prock@teetot.acusd.edu (The Prock) writes:

[Query concerning Ken's 4-hit DP combo]

>	On which characters have people been able to use this 
>	combo on?

It works on all characters if you can time your jump and attack correctly.
Jump over your opponent so that when you hit roundhouse, it will hit
them even if they're crouching (ESPECIALLY if they're crouching).  Then
complete the rest of the combo (fierce, fierce DP).  It will either get you
three or four hits, depending on whether you dizzy your opponent with the
third hit or not.  This works on all opponents... even crouching Blankas.

There was a Blanka player at UIUC who thought that a defensive crouch was
safe against aerial attacks.  It is... if the opponent doesn't time his
attacks correctly.  However, I certainly have no qualms about getting in
a few deadly combos here and there...

>	I have only hit Zangief and Sagat with all four hits.
>	Has anyone hit other characters with this in a non
>	combat situation?  

I dunno.  If I do the front 4-hitter, it always dizzies the opponent for
me before the fourth hit.  If I get a front 4-hitter on a non-dizzied Sagat,
it's because I had to hit roundhouse early, and Sagat made a mistake into
a fierce/fierce DP.

>	Given that under most circumstances the DP combo will
>	only hit three times which would be more prudent to
>	use, read does more damage:
>	jumping fierce/standing fierce/fierce uppercut,  or...

I always do this one.  If it's done correctly, it will dizzy your opponent
every time.  I've seen people who substitute a jab DP at the end of this
combo in order to be safe in case the opponent blocks.  That's fine, but
for most of the situations in which I do a deadly combo, I'll know whether
the opponent can block or not.  And besides, if I wanted to play safe, I'd
pick Ryu.

>	jumping fierce/fierce uppercut

This doesn't do as much damage as the above combo.  And it doesn't always
hit 3 times, depending on your distance.  If you're going to do this one,
you might as well wimp out and do a fierce/jab DP or roundhouse/jab DP.

>	Both will hit three times against most opponents.

>	I would guess that the fierce/fierce/fierce uppercut
>	(the first of the two) would do more damage because
>	all the hits happen sooner and I think the two fierce
>	hits and one uppercut would do more damage than two
>	uppercut hits and one fierce.

Uppercuts and dragon punches are not synonymous.  It can get pretty
confusing if people use different terminology for different moves.

An uppercut is a crouching fierce punch.  A dragon punch looks the
same in the beginning as an uppercut, but rises into the air.

I use roundhouse/fierce/fierce DP whenever I get the chance.  If it
hits, it dizzies the opponent, and I jump over to do the four hitter.
It's not really necessary, since a properly performed front 3-hitter
plus another one WILL kill your opponent.  I have done this and have had
this done to me before (Gotta be careful when you throw those fireballs
at the beginning of the round).  Anyway, the whole point of playing Ken
is to land this combo, so why not do it?  Just the threat of someone
playing like a psycho and the very likely possibility of that psycho
winning at any twitch of his finger is likely to set off someone's game.

>Also as a passing note I have addopted Sagat's Roundhouse/short/Tiger Knee
>as my favorite combo to do.  So much damage and so easy to do,
>what more could you ask for.

That's my Sagat combo of choice.  It's SO much easier to do than:
aerial roundhouse/crouching short/standing short/tiger knee.
And when you do the latter, people aren't even convinced you did it on purpose!

I did do one aerial roundhouse/jab TU to Blanka which took half his life
away... I'll never know how, though! :(

>Andrew Prock
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