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From: coan@griffin (Brian M Coan)
Subject: Het Zweet
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:58:47 GMT

Het Zweet

A woman named Tara asked about Het Zweet. Well, I know they have at
least a few releases out. I have 2 cassettes by them. I ordered them
from Staalplaat in Amsterdam.

--
Brian M Coan
coan@emba.uvm.edu
--
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Stage Dive Score Chart (repost)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 12:06:36 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>                 *THE STAGEDIVE SCORE CHART*
>                 ***************************
>
> Bonus Points:
> ------------
>
> Negotiating your way to the top of a monitor speaker stack and diving from
> there - add 5 points.


What about diving off the top of a M.B.? "Ministry Barrier".

Those usually reach 20+ Feet AND are on fire.

<X>orcist


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From: tmcfarla@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane)
Subject: Re: Tribal Industrial
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:25:03 GMT

i don't know if it is out on cd or not, but a great industrial album that is heavy on the drumming is het zweet's selftitled album on the german label,
dossier. does anyone out there know if the band has released any subsequent
albums?

another album you might find interesting is zero kama's 'secret eye of l.a.y.
l.a.h.'. which isn't exactly industrial but postindustrial, and it doesn't
feature drums per se, but other forms of percussion. it does have one 
distinguishing feature worth note though--all the instruments used on the album
are made out of human body parts, particularly bones.

and why not check out various ethnic musics. in particular, korean drumming.
the german cmp label, has a cd by a korean drum troupe (the name escapes me
now but i'll post it later) that sounds very 'industrial'.
From: brian@nx13.mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman)
Subject: Re: Front 242 "DSMO" meaning?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:51:00 GMT

In article <BrtCBo.K3u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
> shaun@octel.com (Ralph Neutrino) writes:
> 
> >I'm pretty sure that DSMO is an.. organic solvent?  (I never made it  
into 
> >organic chemistry, someone help me out.)  It is readily absorbed  
through the
> >skin, carrying along whatever is disolved in it.  The typical story  
that is
> >told about it is that you get a dish of it, put in a couple of drops of  
lemon
> >(or lemon flavoring,) and put your fingertips in it.  A few minutes  
later,
> >you can taste the lemon.  You can also put other substances in it, like  
LSD,
> >and then wipe it on doorknobs for the unsuspecting.  
> 
> That's DMSO.
> 

Yea, didn't the Dead Kennedys do a song called DMSO? 
"Crypto Wonder drug in vogue!"
-Brian
From: bledbett@funk.prime.com (Bruce Ledbetter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Future Sounds of London
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:23:08 GMT
Reply-To: bledbett@funk.prime.com (Bruce Ledbetter)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

Someone in one of these news groups posted a detailed review
of an album called Accelerator by Future Sounds of London.
I called around Boston looking for this but Tower nor Newbury
Comics has heard of it, one person at Newbury said that he thought
there was a compilation by named FSOL.
Has anyone in the US seen this CD?  Is it a compilation?  What label? 
                            bledbett@funk.prime.com        
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Subject: Re: Grey Area News...
Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:31:13 GMT

In article <39652@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
>I thought Grey Area stuff was no longer available domestically in the US at
>all? There were no indications given in the press release, but I've got the
>impression that The Grey Area no longer reaches the US. Confirmation,
>anyone?

MUTE no longer seems to be doing domestic pressings but the Monte Cazzaza
cd did make it over here as an import (this was our local Tower Records),
so i'm inclined to say that if your record store has a good imports section,
there should be no problems.

btw. to those who care, Tower has been selling most of the MUTE Grey Area
pressings as cut outs to get rid of stock for $5 a pop. it's a good time
to buy those Throbbing Gristle, CAN, whatever cds if you were thinking about
it.

hasta.



-- 
Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.
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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Skinny Puppy: Metro
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:12:19 GMT

Caught Skinny Puppy at Cabaret metro last night in Chicago. Have to admit  
I was a bit dissappointed. The musical side of the show was pretty tepid,  
and the audience reaction seemed to be as well (although we're talking  
about a pretty existential crowd--not the types to bleat ridiculously for  
encores). I did like the light show and performance stuff. Just wish they  
could have put a richer sound together, like Last Rites. I gues it would  
have required a tape, but I'm not even sure they didn't use such...

Any other opinions on this show out there? This was my first time seeing  
them...

AK
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: br311@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Davin Risk)
Subject: RE: INDUSTRIAL ARTZ
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:09:22 GMT


To the guy looking for more Industrial Artz...
There isn't much more.  The cd and about 3 12"s are all they have
I think.  They invited a friend and myself to their first ever live
performance about two months ago and it was less than satisfactory.

I'm not a big fan of the cd, but they didn't even meet the quality of it
live.  (mainly because Richard (squid) the primary writer hired this
pretty lame guy to do the vocals and all the songs suffered because of it
I think squid has stage fright... He even wore a mask for the whole show)

Anyway, if you can find their 12" of Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit"
I think that's their best thing so-far.  If squid fires the lame guy,
things could get better...
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From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Nurse With Wound: "Chance meeting..."
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:35:08 GMT
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

piovanel@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (marco piovanelli) writes:
: 
: nivekogr@athena.mit.edu (Christopher M Teixeira) writes:
: 
: Wait: one more thing: 'Spiral Insana' is also great. Then give up and
: consider 'upgrading' to the Hafler Trio.

Hafler Trio can't compare with NWW at all, except maybe in the boredom
sweepstakes.

: >>BTW, is someone here into John Waterman? The Hafler Trio (hi marco)? 
: >>                                                          
: >  As for John Watermann, I have the 'Coca-Cola' album and was moderately
: > impressed but not enough to buy anything else by him.  How does his
: > other material compare the above album?

There's a new John Watermann track on the "Must Be Musique I" compilation
CD from Dark Vinyl which was just released, along with Trance, Asmus
Tietchens, Sigillum S, and others.  Pretty good compilation, much of
it is very spooky ambient electronic atmospherics.


  VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
             Mason Jones           Charnel House Productions
             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   dante!mason@hop.toad.com
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Yet More Grey Area Info...
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:09:30 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) spake unto the masses saying:
> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
>
>> For the fashion conscious amongst us (i.e. just what shade of black should
>> I wear today?) they're also now doing a range of merchandise, including
>> Laibach t-shirts, Mute t-shirts, a Grey Area t-shirt and cap and
>> (forthcoming) long sleeved TG and SPK t-shirts.
>
> Is there a contact where these items can be obtained (Mail Order?)

Sure. Rather than just mail Dennis individually, I'll post these details in
case anyone else is interested. Please note that I have no connection with
Mute/The Grey Area other than as a customer and occasional recipient of
stuff to review. I'm not posting this out of any intent to advertise, just
to inform.

Stuff that's available now (i.e. the TG and SPK shirts aren't available
yet, so I don't have details of those).

Long sleeved black Laibach t-shirt. Front print is Laibach logo, back print
is "Kapital - MCMXCII". Left arm has band with logo on it. Price #14

Short sleeved black Laibach t-shirt. As long sleeved but with (obviously)
shorter sleeves and hence on band on arm. Price #10.

Long sleeved black Laibach t-shirt. Front print is stylised head wearing
strange helmet with slogan "Wirtschaft Ist Tot", back print is slogan "The
Economy Is Dead". Left arm has band with logo on it. Price #14

Long sleeved black Laibach t-shirt with hi-neck. Small Laibach logo on left
breast, left arm has band with logo on it. Back print is NSK logo. Price
#16.

Short sleeved black Grey Area t-shirt. Front print is Grey Area logo plus
picture of annoying little kid from the front of the _Tyranny Of The Beat_
comp. Price #8.

Jaunty little black cap with the Grey Area logo. You too can look like a
reject from Captain Scarlet. Price #7.

Short sleeved Nova Mute black t-shirt. Nova Mute logo on front. Price #8.

Short sleeve white Mute t-shirt with full colour Mute logo. Price #7.

Laibach metal badge #1.50

Mute Logo sticker #0.50

Throbbing Gristle sticker #0.25

Box for 3 CDs Throbbing Gristle Death Factory design #0.50

Box for 3 CDs Grey Area design #0.50

All shirts/cap one size.

POSTAGE AND PACKING

Badges, stickers and CD boxes are sent free of p&p when ordered with any
shirt.

UK - Shirt/Cap prices inclusive of p&p.
     Badge, stickers and CD boxes alone - add 50p per item.
Europe - Shirts - add #1.50 for first shirt/cap, 50p each additional.
     Badge, stickers and CD boxes alone - add #1.00 per item.
Rest Of World - Shirts - add #4.50 for first shirt/cap, #2.50 for each
     additional.
     Badge, stickers and CD boxes alone - add #2.00 per item.

PAYMENT

Cheques/Postal Orders/International Money Orders payable in Pounds Sterling
to Mute Merchandise
For Overseas orders, please allow 28 days.

ADDRESS

Mute Merchandise
429 Harrow Road
LONDON W10 4RE
Great Britain

--
		      Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
			   "Click click drone."
From: berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: F.L.A. TOURDATE PLEEEZ!
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:14:12 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) writes:

>In article <2623.928.uupcb@bville.gts.org> john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter)  writes:
>>Greetings,
>>
>>*INFO REQUEST*
>>
>>I have seen some F.L.A. tour dates flying around out there, does anyone
>>have a complete tour listing *OR* a TORONTO tour date *OR* know if they
>>are coming to toronto?!
>>
>>thanks...   JesteR
>>                                        

>	If anyone actually has the dates for FLA's tour, please post them ALL
>(so I can decide how many times to see them :-) )!

>--- Michael Chen

As far as I can tell, FLA will be playing Montreal in the very near future
at Foufounes Electrique.  No date has been published yet.. :-(


-- Eva Chan
   spacey@buengf.bu.edu

(ignore the following .sig)
--
	Andre Berthiaume 	 |  "Sometimes you're the windshield,
				 |   Sometimes you're the bug"
    berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca    |			
				 |	       Dire Straits, The Bug
From: prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: HAH ha ha
Summary: testosterone poisoning strikes again
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:28:30 GMT
Reply-To: prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In message <1992Jul30.214611.5520@Cadence.COM>,  
John Young <<jyoung@Cadence.COM >>  spews:

=>Hey I like this one,at least there is someone else out there that 
=>realize's that rave is just Bi sexual/gay disco music of the 90's!
=>Soooo.....Eat that "X",go sterile,and get your free complimentary
=> AIDS from drinking that passed around water!...       
	Way to go, dickweed.  It's not often we get to see such incredible
ignorance displayed.  I 'm amazed that you uttered two major stupidities
in one sentence:   a) X make you sterile  (who told you that? Tipper Gore?)
	Check out the alt.drugs FAQ for the real scoop.
		   b) you can get AIDS from sharing eating utensils.  Yikes,
Ten years of trying to educate the public about it and there are still
peckerheads like you that won't get it until they get IT.  Do us all a favor,
and DON'T use a condom the next time you do your mother.

=>BUT a least it keeps the mutant's off the street's!
	Obviously it doesn't keep them off the Net.

=>	Flame away F@gs
	Kill all bigots.  
		(Any ``alternative'' that recreates the prejudices of the
fucked-up dominant culture is no alternative. Get a life and a working
brain, motherfucker).  And, no,  maricon, I'm not gay (married 10 years);
I just hate to see simps like you posing as ``underground'' types because
of your testosterone overload, and having no clue what it's really about.

==>			THE POPE
		(you need an alias)

	Sorry for subjecting the rest of you to this, but this dieseldork
made the comments publicly and needed to be addressed publicly.  
	Bye.
						dylyn
__________------------____________------------____________-----------________
Super Grover:  "Have you tried running around in circles and screaming 
at the top of your lungs?"
Muppet girl with broken computer:  "That wouldn't help!"
Super Grover:  "Well, it _couldn't hurt_!"
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.thrash
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: HELMET(re: Godflesh expectations
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:11:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.062408.1357@NeoSoft.com> rperkins@NeoSoft.com (Rodney Perkins) writes:
>> FC9.. i aGREE aBSOLUTELY wITH 99% oF tHIS pOST eXCEPT fOR tHE pART aBOUT 
>> FC9.. <<HELMET>>, tRUE tHEY uSED tO bE aWESOME bOTH iN rECORDINGS aND lIVE
[...]

dude -- what the fuck?   problem with capslock?  that was nearly impossible
to read.  (not trying to bitch or anything, but what the fuck?)

>	Sorry to disagree but I think your totally wrong on the newest Helmet
>album. Better done than the last one and definitely more powerful. Yea,
>the guy decides to sing on a few tracks and you call the next big thing?
>Thats bullshit. Helmet is about as commercial or accessible as Poison
>Idea. Oh I guess since there on a major label now there are going to be
>hitting the top ten and selling millions of albums! Thats exactly what
>I thought when Warner Bros. reissued Throbbing Gristle and NON via Mute
>records. Uh-huh...

I was watching MTV this weekend (shoot me -- I was drunk and stoned) and saw
a Helmet video.  I thought they were pretty decent, kinda agnostic-frontish
was my first impression.  How would you describe their shit in general?  Was
that video, if you guys know what I'm talking about, a good sample of their
shit?  How would you compare their old shit with their new shit?  What would
be a good first album to pick up?

   "Foeticides done daily
   Frying them inside the womb
   Electrocuting embryos
   In their sterile tomb"
      -- Carcass.  "Foeticide".  _Reek of Putrefaction_. 

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu

>-- 
>"Dirt your purity" - John Woo, A Better Tommorrow
>Rodney Perkins (Rperkins@Sugar.Neosoft.com)
From: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: MISC.
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114/6059* *v32bis/HST
Reply-To: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 

Greetings,

Here is some old-style *MULTI-MAIL* for you all...

1) TOP TEN MOSHING LIST.

        I am going to compile all the suggestions/additions and post a
new revised list in a few days...  (BEWARE)

2) RE: MOSHING/CYCLONE

        How do you get one of those going?!  I think they must be an
AMERICAN invention!!  I have been to quite a few shows with moshing, but
have never been involved in one of those running/spinning around things!
Is *CYCLONE* the correct term for that??  I saw one on MTV during spring
break when *PRIMUS* played in Daytona...  That looks wild!

3) Front Line Tour Dates

        If anyone has info on a Toronto show, *PLEASE* post it!!

4) LOLLAPALOOZA reviews

        If you have seen Lolla, please post a review, I'm going August
5th, I want to know what to expect...  (Yeah, I like being an insider!)

5) NEW 242

        Any idea when Front 242 will be bring out some new material?  Is
anyone on the network here a member of Transmission 242??

thanks for coming out...                john.walter@bville.gts.org
                                                                                                      
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: paul@ais.org (Paul Vargo)
Subject: Front242
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: us
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:07:18 GMT

Could some kind soul out there (if there's any left) send me
a discography of Front 242.  Thanks.

paul

paul@ais.org

P.S.  I saw WIG last nite...not industrial I know....but they aren't
      as good now IMHO
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: PTV discography?
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:26:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <Bs5IHE.2G3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> iew21308@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian E. Wickram) writes:
>	Does anyone have a discography for Psychick TV?  I remember a while
>back people were kicking back and forth at least a partial listing when
>someone asked about the song "Orchids" on Dreams not so nice.  

If no one has a "real" discography, I can copy the "partial" one from
the back of _A Coumprehensive Collection Ov Lyrics 1981-90_.

>	Also if there are any TOPY coyotes out there could you clue me in on
>a TOPY mailing list (E-mail or otherwise) as I have lost the Denver address
>I used to be in touch with.

I believe there is an email TOPY list, but I haven't seen a copy in a while
and don't recall the address (a friend was subscribed and would forward the
occasional issue).
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
               The animal that coils in a circle is the serpent;
   that's why so many cults and myths of the serpent exist, because it's hard
      to represent the return of the sun by the coiling of a hippopotamus.
From: ezrg_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Ezra Robert Gold)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ogre's movies.....
Date: 25 Jul 92 14:55:47 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


Ogre plays the gas station attendant in a movie called _Highway 61_. It is 
aclually supposed to be pretty good (I've never seen it myself) and Ogre is
supposed to fit right in with all of the other "quirky people and events."
Now if I can only find a movie theatre that will play it around here I will be 
set.

_____
Ezra Gold					ezrg_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

	"This post has been cross format focused for netplay sucess"
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry: Psalm 69 (is really a good album!)
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:11:09 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

> We just have to assume it's good even if it's crap. We have to like it no 
> matter what? By what other standards are we to determine if we like an album 
> or not, than by if we like it or not? 

Your own opinion dude. Some of us happen to think that the new album is really
cool--Ministry's harder and better. If you don't like it and prefer the softer
wimpier stuff, well, fine, that's ok with me. To each his opinion & standards.

And furthermore, 'Scarecrow' is my favorite track...so there. =)

Now, does ANYBODY out there have the lyrics to 'TV SONG'????????

(please?)

Christopher
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Yet More Grey Area Info...
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:42:46 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

Yet more info from The Grey Area...

The SPK box has been delayed because the stickers John was planning to
include with the boxed sets are late. It's now due mid-August. The
individual discs will be issued on Sept 1st.

Dome and Duet Emmo still due for 24th August release.

Next batch of releases after that will be in October, and include _A
Thirsty Fish_ by The Hafler Trio, _Collusion_ by Zoviet*France (a
collection of rarities) and _Ljubljana, Zagreb, Beograd_ by Laibach.

For the fashion conscious amongst us (i.e. just what shade of black should
I wear today?) they're also now doing a range of merchandise, including
Laibach t-shirts, Mute t-shirts, a Grey Area t-shirt and cap and
(forthcoming) long sleeved TG and SPK t-shirts.

Re distribution in the US. If it's bad now, expect it to get worse. US
sales of Grey Area releases have been *very* disappointing, and all signs
are that unless things pick up they'll be pulling out completely. The
failure in that market has also slowed the release process at The Grey Area
- there's no point in feeding a machine that has a wheel missing.

Al

--
		      Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
			   "Click click drone."
From: fish@jab.tucson.az.us (Fresh Fish)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Any help?
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 22:13:34 PDT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

 
 
 Does anyone out there have a Test Department discography? If you could post 
it, I'll give you drugs...
 
-Dave(Microdot)
"It doesn't matter if you get or even understand the time of your life..."
-Jack Dangers
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz)
Subject: Intermix - what else would i like?
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:19:55 GMT

I really like the Intermix (not even going to try the funky caps - i'll leave
that to fC9) album (there is only one, right?). but i also do not particularly
like FLA's _gashed senses and crossfire_ (the only one of theirs i owned briefly).
so what else in that set of FLA-related projects would i like?
(Delerium? sounds interesting from what i hear...)
thanks,

mike


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