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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: MS windows and novell...
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:10:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr13.131039.54429
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr11.170436.18813@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, razorbone@uiuc.edu (Mark Notarus) writes:
> 
> 
>  Ack.  Well, we've got ten Gateways486's as part of a novell network...
> These ten machines are served by an epson fx850.....
> 
>  We are TRYING to use MS windows (as a student site, what the students want...)
> and the associated programs, like Word, Excel, etc....
> 
>  Except that, for some odd reason, we cannot get anything normal out of the 
> printer.  I was working with it for a couple of hours, and the words "hi there"
> from teh notebook app printing through the network came out as 15K and about
> 36 pages of on again, off again ascii scribbles. 
>  
> Any idea what gives? What to look at? 
>   
>  
>  We were capturing both lpt1 and 2, ti's ranging from none to 100 both in 
> and out of windows...
> 
>  I'm clueless. Any help here?  Thanks..
>  
>  
>  mark 
------------
Mark,
	Since Windows provides for so many opportunities to show our wit and
skill <sic> might I suggest grabbing archive WINPRT.ZIP from, among other
places, netlab2.usu.edu  cd misc. This has a useful item to help the printer
problems. Recommended. While you are on the machine cd over to dir novlib
and get the latest drivers Novell utils for Windows. Without those advice
is wasted.
	Joe D.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Subject: Re: Help with Novell to TCP/IP-SMTP
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:30:12 GMT

jrd@cc.usu.edu writes:

>In article <1992Apr06.204659.26405@ka3ovk>, albers@ka3ovk (Jon Albers) writes:
>> 
>> Hello.  I am a systems admin on UNIX minis, and we have a TCP/IP network

[...]

>> e-mail in and out.  Now I've got the UNIX end covered, but part of
>> this project is a Novell LAN of PCs.  We have the hardware to connect
>> the Novell lan to the TCP/IP LAN, but I don't think we have the right
>> software on the Novell LAN to send and receive SMTP mail.  I know very 
>> little about Novell, so I am not even sure what questions to ask, and the
>> SA of the Novell LAN is just as much in the dark about TCP/IP. 
>> 
>> So, how can I get SMTP mail going between these two networks?  I'm sure
>> someone out there has done it: how?
>> 
>> 						Jon

[...]
>the appropriate TCP/IP software. There are programs on the market which
>will talk to a mail hub machine and that machine in turn can gateway to
>the Internet via SNMP. Other readers can fill in many details on these
>packages if you are interested.

Try the combination of Pegasus Mail (a Novell-based Mailer) and Charon
(an SMTP Gateway working with Pegasus Mail).
Charon needs a dedicated PC to run on.

Both are free (thanks to David Harris and Brad Clements) and can be found
on various ftp sites, including splicer.cba.hawaii.edu.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr


-- 
  Christoph Weber-Fahr                  |  E-Mail:  weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
  Universitaet Kaiserslautern,  KIT/IVS |  S-Mail:  Postfach 3049
  Tel. 0631/205-3391                    |           D-6750 Kaiserslautern
--------------------------  My personal opinion only    ---------------------
From: jap@acsu.buffalo.edu (James A. Perreault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Charon and Token Ring
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:13:45 GMT
Organization: UB

I would like to bring SMTP conectivity to Pegasus mail, but the problem
is that I am running on a 4Mb IBM Token Ring.  The version of Charon
that I have runs ( or so the Docs say ) only on Ethernet.  

Is there a way that I can configure it to run on the Token Ring network?

					Jim Perreault
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jeff@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jeff Jensen)
Subject: Arcserve backup software?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:11:08 GMT


Hi,

Could somebody post or E-mail me the telephone number for Cheyenne (sp?)
software?  The people who back the Novell server backup software?  I can't
find their telephone number in my files, and it looks like I've finally
convinced my boss that using Fastback simply is NOT the right thing to do.
A list of their products/prices would also be nice.

Thanks in advance!

-Jeff Jensen
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|    Jeff Jensen at Harvey Mudd College     |    ^The Well-Traveled Mage^     |
|        jeff@jarthur.claremont.edu         |   Dynix, SunOS, Ultrix, Mach    |
| jeff@hmcvax.bitnet ...!uunet!jarthur!jeff | Domain/OS, VMS, Novell, MS-Dos  |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: terrya@MCES.MsState.Edu (Terry Arnsdorff)
Subject: MACs and Novell 3.11
Keywords: MAC 3.11 
Organization: Mississippi Cooperative Extension Service
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:15:10 GMT

My current 3.11 LAN has 140 users.  There are also about a dozen MACs in the 
building.  What will be the best way to connect them to the building LAN?

The MACs are currently stand-alone machines.

Terry

.--------------------------------.---------------------------------.
|  Terry Arnsdorff               |                                 |
|  <terrya@mces.msstate.edu>     |                                 |
|  LAN Manager                   |  "When all think alike,         |
|  Mississippi Cooperative       |       No one thinks very much"  |
|    Extension Service           |             Walter Lippman      |
|  Mississippi State University  |                                 |
`--------------------------------'---------------------------------'
From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NW3.11, TCP/IP forwarding & PD Telnet...
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:44:50 MDT
Distribution: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr7.184416.18932@novell.com>, mcollins@novell.com (Marty Collins) writes:
> In article <1992Apr1.231604.11457@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> girj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>>
	<stuff removed>
> Example:
> 
> _________________| NETWARE |_________________
> 130.57.x.x		    131.57.x.x
> 
>>
>>I tried setting it up as per #2 paragraph above, giving both cards both
>>protocols.  I gave the gate=... parameter to both cards when doing the
>>BIND IP... command.  The address given with the gate=... command was that
>>of our building's default gateway.  When I try to telnet I get a "No ARP
>>response from gateway." message for outside tries and a "No reponse from
>>host." message from in building tries.  It sounds like the packets are
>>not getting through to the second ethernet card at all...
>          |  MARTY COLLINS              PRODUCT SUPPORT      |
>          |  NOVELL, INC.	       SAN JOSE, CA.        |
>          |  1-800-NETWARE              mcollins @novell.com |
----------------
	The most likely reason packets did not cross the NW IP router is
that gateway address. A gateway is the path off THIS net to the other nets,
the typical job spec for gateways, and applications need one or more gateways
to get off the local net. So the application on the inside of the NW server
should use the server's IP address for the port on the same wire. By convention
that IP address is given as XXX.XXX.XXX.254, if you wish. The reason ARP failed
was the app had a choice of ARPing for the real destination, if it were on the 
local wire, or a gateway in the local wire, or fail. It needed an Ethernet 
address to which to send pkts directly, and clearly that is a "local wire" 
only affair. The third case arose when there was no_such_gateway on the local 
wire (meaning the gateway IP and that of the client IP were the same when 
viewed under the subnet mask).
         Joe D.
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: DOS 5.0 Upgrade Hang-up
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:10:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: rhrk.1992Apr8.101017.21074
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany

tanemeth@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:

>There a several things you might look at.  First of all, make sure that you
>are using HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE from the Windows directory, not the DOS 5
>versions 

Why ? The DOS 5 versions are the newer ones, come also from Microsoft
- and run fine on my machines for some months now.

>Related to the above, make sure you get the latest NETX.COM from the Windows
>directory also.

Hey - he is using Win 3.0. Probably even his NW 3.11 is newer. Not to mention
the various upgrades. I would recommend using the stuff from the most recent
WINUP?.ZIP.

[...]

>Finally, I recommend that you upgrade to Windows 3.1, as you will find that
>the Novell support in it is almost bearable.

Hm...

>Tom Nemeth

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr

-- 
  Christoph Weber-Fahr                  |  E-Mail:  weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de
  Universitaet Kaiserslautern,  KIT/IVS |  S-Mail:  Postfach 3049
  Tel. 0631/205-3391                    |           D-6750 Kaiserslautern
--------------------------  My personal opinion only    ---------------------
From: nieland_t@kahuna.asd-yf.wpafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Still looking for NW4Mac Print patch
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:06:56 EST
Organization: USAF ASD/YF, WPAFB, Dayton, OH


I haven't seen any response to the postings asking for a FTP site for the
printer patch for NW4Mac to work with the Macinoths Tuneup kit.
It wasn't on ftp.novell.com when the original message was posted (and I 
haven't been able to get to that machine for several days now).

Also, where does one get Charon?  I would like to be able to set the time on 
servers (and through the servers the DOS systems) like I currently do with my 
VAX, Unix, and Macintosh computers.  (Since their isn't a NTP NLM I guess I am 
limmited to Charon which is overkill.)

Ted Nieland				nieland_t@kahuna.asd-yf.wpafb.af.mil
(513) 476-4639				nieland@ted.hcst.com
Hassler Communications Systems Technology
From: jm602s1066@sycom.mi.org (James Mallory)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: V3.11 server deleted files problem
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:00:12 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

greg@irl.ise.ufl.edu (Greg O'Rear) writes:

>I posted this query a few weeks ago, but I didn't get any info that turned out
>to be useful.  I have a 3.11 server with a 330 MB hard drive; the machine is
>a 80386/33, which was down this morning.  The error log had the following:
>	...Severity=5
>	1.1.42 Volume /SYS out of disk space
>	35952k of disk space is in use by deleted files
>	No deleted files have been deleted long enough to purge yet
>
>Needless to say, the above is a complete lie.  Also, my AUTOEXEC includes:
>	set minimum file delete wait time=0
>	set file delete wait time=0 >

Try PURGE just for laughs while I check to see if that is the proper syntax.

-- C-UseNet V0.55c
            Jim Mallory, a CNE and a Randiod (What a Combination!)

  '...I wanted to have real conversations with people with bubbles on their
 heads...I want to sit next to Wookies...jawas...and all kinds of robots." --
   Carrie Fisher on "Star Wars"  (Even though I would of swore that she was
                           referring to the 'net!)
From: mvickers@orca.fhcrc.org (Mark Vickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Limit disk usage by group?
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:06:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr16.210632.20597
Organization: Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Seattle


Is there anyway to limit disk usage by group?

I will post what I learn!

This is my first posting I hope it works!

Rookies!!!!
Xref: sparky comp.sys.novell:3620 comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:2989
From: bryan@npd.Novell.COM (Bryan Cardoza)
Subject: Re: Where is Novell's ftp Server?
Keywords: ftp Novell anonymous
Organization: Novell NPD -- Sandy, UT
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:35:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.132131.23855@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> rdb1@hera.uucp (27412-bond) writes:
>Does anyone know if 137.65.12.2 is the correct IP address for "sandy" or
>if this machine is down?  I've been trying for serveral days to reach this
>machine.

137.65.12.2 is the correct address for ftp.IS.Sandy.Novell.COM (alias
ftp.Novell.COM); it happens to be down at the moment--in fact, it's
been down for some time now.  I've been unable to get in contact with
the responsible person for that machine.  In the mean time, try one of
the machines that others have suggested in response to your article.

Good luck & have fun.


--
Bryan Cardoza
<bryan@npd.novell.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: eengelke@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP to replace IPX/SPX ?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:47:40 GMT

 cmsedore@mailbox.syr.edu writes:
>
>I experience a performance decrease when using tunnelled IPX, and I'd think that
>it would be difficult to remove all of the performance penalties that tunelling imposes.  It would be nice to move to a packet larger than 576 (and still follow some
>standards).
>

Of course it is entirely possible to have larger 'packets'.  Here are some 
of the accepted mechanisms

   1. Send large packets and fragment/reassemble them as necessary
	- can overload gateways 
	- ask anyone who uses 8K nfs packets through a gateway, yuck
   2. Build fragmentation/reassembly directly into the tunneling protocol
	- comparable in performance to (1) above, and certainly more
          reliable as Novell would be certain to do this correctly
	- could use virtual of MTU much larger than 576, and on directly
 	  connected ip subnets would probably use actual MTU much larger
	  than 576.
   3. Use TCP tunnelling 
	- supports very large 'packet' sizes
	- can be slower than (1) or (2) on light traffic but quite good
	  with higher traffic levels
	- gives good reliability/performance over WANs (ask any NFS over TCP zealot)
	- allows several small packets to be bundled into one if desired

I'm currently testing (3) for WAN-ing a different Network OS, and rather
like it.  But Novell has the personel to design and test (2) to give 
performance and reliablilty without the overhead of (3).

Just some thoughts
Erick
-- 
Erick Engelke					  Engineering Computing
						 University of Waterloo
Waterloo TCP Architect		 erick@development.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
From: ktew@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Ken Tew )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Hard drive configurations
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:38:22 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


   I'm looking for comments and suggestion about configuring our hard drives
on our Novell Server.  Our current hardware is:

	386/33MHz processor.  
	16M Ram.  
	Adaptec 1542B SCSI card.  
	Micropolis 1588 667Mbyte SCSI drive
	Python DAT 4520 Internal DAT drive.

   Presently, the hard drive is configured as a single volume (SYS) with 
an 8K block size (8K was chosen becuase we only had 4M Ram when we started).
Shortly, we will be adding a Micropolis 1548 1.3Gbyte SCSI drive.  We are 
considering 2 possible configurations with the new drive:


   1)   Set up the 667Mbyte drive a SYS with a block size of 4K and set up 
	the 1.3Gbyte drive as a separate volume with a block size of 8K (or
	16K).  


   2)   Set up the two drive as a single volume with a block size of 8K.
	The rationale for this set up is to have faster file access for
	the files that get spread across both disks.

   I would appreciate any comments on the pros and cons of each setup.  Any 
suggestions about alternative setups would also be appreciated.
From: ktew@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Ken Tew )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Hard drive configurations on Novell
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:07:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


   I'm looking for comments and suggestion about configuring our hard drives
on our Novell Server.  Our current hardware is:

	386/33MHz processor.  
	16M Ram.  
	Adaptec 1542B SCSI card.  
	Micropolis 1588 667Mbyte SCSI drive
	Python DAT 4520 Internal DAT drive.

   Presently, the hard drive is configured as a single volume (SYS) with 
an 8K block size (8K was chosen becuase we only had 4M Ram when we started).
Shortly, we will be adding a Micropolis 1548 1.3Gbyte SCSI drive.  We are 
considering 2 possible configurations with the new drive:


   1)   Set up the 667Mbyte drive a SYS with a block size of 4K and set up 
	the 1.3Gbyte drive as a separate volume with a block size of 8K (or
	16K).  


   2)   Set up the two drive as a single volume with a block size of 8K.
	The rationale for this set up is to have faster file access for
	the files that get spread across both disks.

   I would appreciate any comments on the pros and cons of each setup.  Any 
suggestions about alternative setups would also be appreciated.

Please Post or E-mail responses to KTEW@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU or 
				   KEN@CAMP.WPIC.PITT.EDU
From: cummings@teal.csn.org (Leslie Cummings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,listserv.novell
Subject: File transfer software
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:05:39 GMT
Reply-To: cummings@secutron.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Secutron Corporation

What software is available that performs file transfers over serial connections,
(modems).  I'm looking for something that is equivalent to UUCP, which runs
on TCP/IP in the unix world.


|  \   / | Leslie J. Cummings         | Internet: cummings@secutron.com
|   - -  | Secutron Corporation       | Phone:    303-377-4655
| _\ | /_| 3773 Cherry Creek N. Drive | FAX:      303-399-8359
|  / - \ | Denver, CO 80209           | 

-- 
|  \   / | Leslie J. Cummings         | Internet: cummings@secutron.com
|   - -  | Secutron Corporation       | Phone:    303-377-4655
| _\ | /_| 3773 Cherry Creek N. Drive | FAX:      303-399-8359
|  / - \ | Denver, CO 80209           | 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: wayne@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Rick Wayne)
Subject: IDE and SCSI under ELS 2.15
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 03:11:59 GMT


ok, you can tell from the subject line that i'm a dreamer.  we have an ELS 2.15
license, and it does OK -- but we have teeny little drives in the server.  we
could get bigger drives, of course, but most of the good ones are IDE or SCSI
these days.  buried in the red books was a little note about only supporting 
RLL and MFM drives under 2.15 ELS.  i called adaptec, and they said that they
didn't think ELS could SCSI.

just on the off chance -- does anybody out there know of a way to do this, or
am i hallucinating here?  i know we'll probably have to go to 3.11, but we're
budget-limited here.  

thanks,
rick

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: Realtime question
Followup-To: comp.dcom/lans.misc
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Technology, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:57:27 GMT

In article <JAILBAIT.92Apr6134152@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> jailbait@gnu.ai.mit.edu writes:
=2 people respond to a question on Topology Choices. Both say that
=realistic throughput on an Ethernet network is noticably below 10Mb/s.
=One goes on to say that this is due to packet collision on the wire.

=Question: Does this apply for 10baseT/Ethernet over twisted pair
=networks, too? 

Yes. 10Mb/s is the data rate during transfer, not the maximum or typical
throughput. Throughput is affected by the speed of the sending system
and the number of other stations trying to use the cable. If there are
only two stations, then you'll get *lots* of data through. If there are
28 other stations trying to NFS mount directories and compile software
across the net, your observed throughput will probably be lousey.

=It seems to me that the use of a hub in this topology should minimize
=that problem.

A hub is basically a multiport repeater; it doesn't buffer packets, it
just dumps them out the other ports. A router would cut down on collisions,
but then you've got to deal with the latency of the packet being buffered.

=Comments?

The Ethernet/TR debate will never go away; each has it's advantages in
specific circumstances. Neither is inherently better; the selection must
be based upon the individual networks' requirements. The original posters'
inquiry did not provide enough information to make a selection.

I've set followups to comp.dcom.lans.misc, as this doesn't really have
anything to do with NetWare or it's use.

-- 
Gary Heston    SCI Systems, Inc.  gary@sci34hub.sci.com   site admin
The Chariman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither.
"Always remember, that someone, somewhere, is making a product that will
make your product obselete." Georges Doriot, founder of American R & D.
From: wayne@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Rick Wayne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: IDE and SCSI under ELS 2.15
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:47:26 GMT
Reply-To: wayne@schaefer.UUCP (Rick Wayne)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <jm602s1066.2ajn@sycom.mi.org> jm602s1066@sycom.mi.org (James Mallory) writes:
>
>Is this ELS Level I or II (4 or 8 Users?)  From what I remember 2.15 systems
>could support ESDI drives directly and you should be able to use any SCSI disk
>driver (as long as it is ELS Level II if memory serves me well) or you could
>upgrade to 2.2.
>

we have ELS level II.  yes, it does appear that there's hope!  in fact,
another correspondent mailed me info on a product from Ontrack Systems that may do the trick.

thanks to all for the help.  

rick
From: jailbait@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jailbait)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Realtime question
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:41:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: wombat.JAILBAIT.92Apr6134152
Reply-To: jailbait@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Organization: JB Distribution Uninc.

2 people respond to a question on Topology Choices. Both say that
realistic throughput on an Ethernet network is noticably below 10Mb/s.
One goes on to say that this is due to packet collision on the wire.

Question: Does this apply for 10baseT/Ethernet over twisted pair
networks, too? 

It seems to me that the use of a hub in this topology should minimize
that problem.

Comments?

JB
From: cmsedore@mailbox.syr.edu (Christopher M Sedore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: TCP/IP to replace IPX/SPX ?
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:22:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: newstand.1992Apr9.132246.19324
Reply-To: cmsedore@mailbox.syr.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Syracuse University

In article 28391@novell.com, donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>In article <80ajm6gjbreeden@netcom.com> jbreeden@netcom.com (John Breeden) writes:
>>This discussion got started (and never got properly answered) around
>>a recent article in Network World, that has a front page article stating
>>that Netware 3,2 will include, among other things a Netware client/server
>>protocol stack using tcp-ip INSTEAD of ipx (ie: NOT ipx tunneled in tcp-ip,
>>but Netware *over* tcp-ip (NCP on tcp-ip?).
>
>Just out of curiosity, what do you see as the significant difference
>between "ipx tunneled" and "NetWare over TCP/IP"?  For example, if
>Novell were to sell you something called "NetWare over TCP/IP", how
>would you determine if the implementation was actually sending IPX
>packets on top of UDP in the manner that is currently refered to as
>"tunnelling"?  Of course you could look at the packets on the wire,
>but i mean what difference in behavior would you expect to see between
>the two?  Thanks.
>						don provan
>						donp@novell.com

I experience a performance decrease when using tunnelled IPX, and I'd think that
it would be difficult to remove all of the performance penalties that tunelling imposes.  It would be nice to move to a packet larger than 576 (and still follow some
standards).

Chris

Chris Sedore
Syracuse University
cmsedore@mailbox.syr.edu