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From: ds4@north3.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Arizona beats UCLA
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:06:08 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Oct5.232157.5714@cs.ucla.edu>, reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

|> Speaking as a UCLA fan, I didn't notice any significant amount of cheap
|> shots or dirty play by Arizona.  It seemed to me that they just played

I am not sure how Arizona played against UCLA, but there were reports about an
Arizona player that were going for the knees of Miami players.  They might of
played with a little more dignity this week, but remember they trashed the
locker room in the Orange bowl which tells you the frame of mind they were in.

|> extremely tough defense, and the basis of their success was being at the
|> right place at the right time - which is a combination of reading the plays
|> well and being determined to get there, rather than intentionally or
|> recklessly injuring their opponents.  The fans of Arizona's other opponents
|> will have to speak for themselves, but, despite the several critical
|> injuries UCLA suffered in this game, I have no complaint about how Arizona
|> played it.  (Other, perhaps, than wishing they hadn't played it so well.)
|> 
|> --
|> 		Peter Reiher
|> 		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
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From: mike@spss.com (mike cornwall)
Subject: Re: Huskies and parties
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:05:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.042036.27255@u.washington.edu> crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

>Frat row is widely considered to be one of the more hazardous places to be
>if you are a police officer in Seattle, since the frat boys don't 
>accept authority from the police, but taunt them, etc.  Last year,
>one officer was hit by a BB gun fired from one frat.  In addition,
>there have been several widely publicized hazing incidents which
>involved the use of animals (sheep and chickens if you want to get
>specific...).  

What a wonderfull place to send your children to learn the values of life :)

>
>****************************************************************************
>Cliff S laughterbeck           * 
>Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
>University of Washington      *   water again!
>Seattle, WA 98195             *
>****************************************************************************

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Mike goin fishin Cornwall
mike@spss.com
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU Falls to Wisconsin!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:23:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <1992Oct5.233343.23321@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jpersons@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John C Persons) writes:
>
>My guess is Wisconsin will lose two Big Ten games and Michigan will
>come to Columbus undefeated.  So if the Bucks can get their act back 
>together, they'll have their chance at Pasadena when Michigan comes
>to town.  Can somebody tell me which of Wisconsin's games are at home
>and which are on the road (besides Iowa)?

Road: Iowa(10/10), Indiana(10/24), MSU(11/7), Northwestern(11/21)
Home: Purdue(10/17), Illinois(10/31), Minnesota(11/14)

My guess is that they will go 3-4 through the rest of the season.  Let's
not forget how many years Wisconsin beat TOSU, and then lost to teams like
Northwestern.  They will probably win 2 of those home games, and get one
win on the road.  I think they could play with any of these teams, but
Wisconsin still is unproven on the road.  I hope that will change, but I
really don't see it happening.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Date: 29 Sep 1992 19:38:24 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <aelman.717788026@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:

>
>If you think the Stanford Band's humor is sophomoric, and you have
>lots of better ideas for shows, tell me -- we're always looking for
>good show ideas, and I'm perfectly willing to suggest good ones.  If
>you just don't like the idea of a band which makes fun of things
>instead of marching military-style around the field like good little
                                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^
>fascists, then stay away from Stanford football.  Or at least take a
^^^^^^^^^
>bathroom break at halftime. :-)
>
>Adam Elman
>aelman@cs.stanford.edu
>
>P.S. Don't get me wrong -- I appreciate a good traditional marching
>band as much as the next guy.  But I think what we do gives a bit of
>variety to the game that you just don't get from traditional bands.

I am certainly amused about the irony of the Stanfurd band wanting to
avoid cultivating a fascist image, considering that Stanfurd epitomizes
elitism and the values of Social Darwinism of which I am sure
Leland Stanford was an advocate of.  

Heck, the Stanfurd students recognized this when they voted to have
"Robber Barons" be the nickname for the team until the university
stepped in and made them the Cardinal.  

William F. Tell
UC Berkeley
yeah, and we don't like paying extra $$$ for big game tickets to 
pay for Bill Walsh's salary.  
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From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: PSU/MIAMI - what a game!
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:53:48 GMT

In article <92279.004533RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>#2 Miami Hurricanes (5-0) at #5 (#7 - AP) Penn State Nittany Lions!!!!!!
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>22 straight wins - well, isn't it about time for this streak to come to an
>end???????  Penn State joined the Big 10 and ally Michigan will be very happy
>to see a Penn State victory to propel the Wolves to No. 2 and set up their
>showdown with Washington - the winner getting more than roses!!!!!........
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Penn State at 12-0 and finishing at No. 2?  You better appreciate it, Michigan!
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>         PENN STATE 20, MIAMI 16.......thanks Joepa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>                                                      -THE NITTANY LION!!!!!
>                                                 (roaming on campus since 1855)

I know that I will should it happen.  Who knows, PSU and Michigan 
could even share an MNC.  No woofs, no boasts, just stating that 
it COULD happen. It would be a heckuva way to welcome PSU to 
the Big 2 (or 10, or 11, or whatever). 
   :)
------
Steve

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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Jayhawk Posting #12
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:11:53 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep26.042115.43356@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>From the Friday, September 25, 1992 issue of the University Daily Kansan.
>
>CALIFORNIA DIMS JAYHAWKS' LIGHT SHOW
>by David Bartkoski, Kansan sportswriter
>
>   California spoiled Kansas' party last night, defeating the No. 24 Jay-
>hawks 27-23 at Memorial Stadium in a game televised on ESPN. The visitors
>held Kansas to 27 points under its scoring average and bettered the Jay-
>hawks statistically. The Golden Bears, 2-1, rolled up 416 yards of offense
>against the Jayhawks, now 3-1, who were second in the country in total
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>defense. They held the Kansas offense to 306 total yards. The Jayhawks had
 ^^^^^^^
>been averaging 490 yards a game.

   What exactly does that mean?  Second best defense in the country?


>   California grabbed a 7-0 lead in the first quarter when senior tailback
>Russell White ran the ball in from 3 yards out. White rushed 39 times for
>165 yards in the game and broke several Jayhawk tackles throughout the
^^^^^^

  Now that Marshall has played a decent Pac-10 team over the weekend, is
Russell back in the running? :-)

  Doug
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From: fulks@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: 3+ national champs
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:18:19 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


Interesting reading some of these posting.  Although it is early, perhaps
posing some senerios would also be interesting.

Lets see, UT and Bama will likely meet twice.  The winner of the SECOND
game will go to the Sugar bowl, so both could be 11-1 going into the
bowl.  In the Sugar, the opponent would be:
		Notre Dame?  (also undefeated?)
		Miami?	(or are they locked in the Orange?)

The loser of the SEC Championship game goes to the Citris I believe,
at 11-1 could be playing one of the teams mentioned above?

The third place SEC team would likely be Georgia or Florida- whichever
wins the Holloween game.  Third place team then may only have one loss
too (Georgia?).  

Might be numerous VERY good teams going into bowls with only one loss
and unfortunately, no chance for the National Championship.  Big 
problem with the SEC is that they play each other.  Put Mississippi
State in the WAC and they are in a bowl every other year!

ah well,
	Go Vols  Go Dawgs  Go Utah State Aggies!!  (in that order!)








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From: trn@ORNL.GOV (Tommy Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What ever happened to...
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:58:14 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: de5.ctd.ornl.gov

Chuck had taken out a $1,000,000 insurance policy before injuring
his knee.  The policy was to pay off in the event of a career ending
injury.  After injuring his knee at UT (about 100ft from where I was
sitting), Chuck entered the NFL draft early and was taken by Green Bay 
as somewhat of a gamble since he was not fully recovered.  He reinjured
his knee and saw very limited action as a Packer. The Pack tried to deal
him to another team as a still somewhat unknown commodity and Chuck said
enough and announced his retirement.  I heard just last week that he is 
now trying to collect on the insurance policy he took out while at UT.
Perhaps someone at G.B. can fill in the details of his limited career
there.  
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From: abg1@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew brian gross)
Subject: Re: Buckeyes/Badgers!
Reply-To: abg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:54:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.222520.20351@cis.ohio-state.edu> ellis@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu (steven lawrence ellis) writes:
>Do any non-biased people out there believe that Wisconsin can beat The Ohio
>State University?  What is there record so far and who have they played?
>

Actually, I can do even better than that: I'm a die-hard Buckeyes' fan who
honestly believes that Wisconsin can beat OSU this Saturday.

If both teams play up to their abilities, OSU should win; they have too much
of a talent advantage. But, Wisconsin has a better coach, home field advantage,
and is in absolutely no danger of not being psyched for the game (as opposed
to the Bucks).  

I'm not predicting the upset, but if the Buckeyes take the Badgers as lightly
as you are, they *WILL* lose on Saturday.


-- 
 ==============================================================================
 "You wouldn't understand.  And I don't mean |  Andrew B. Gross
 that as an insult.  I mean it literally."   |  abg1@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: djryan@ct.cs.wm.edu (David J. Ryan)
Subject: football in Florida
Organization: College of William & Mary, founded 1693
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:04:59 GMT

Well, it still looks like Florida is another level below FSU and
Miami. The Gator-faithful have been beating their chests for a 
couple of years now, but I can't remember FSU or Miami losing
back-to-back games in that fashion (at least not in the last 6
years or so). In fact, FSU and Miami only lose like that to each
other. I still say that FSU and Miami are the cream of the crop,
the Arizona game notwithstanding.

As far as my ND bashing, it's hard not to want to throw chunks
every time you hear about ND because they are so over-publicized.
And the NBC (NDC) deal is ridiculous, of course. For the record,
FSU is 1-0 against ND, winning 19-11 in South Bend a decade ago.
They will play a home-and-sort-of-home game series for the next
two years. ND comes to Orlando's Citrus Bowl to play "host" FSU
in '93; FSU returns to South Bend in '94. I guess those games
will shut some people up one way or the other.

As far as FSU's schedule, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find
a tougher one in the country. All 5 road games are against bowl
teams from last year who have been (or are) ranked this season:
Miami, Georgia Tech, NC State, Virginia, and Clemson. At home,
they have Florida (and UNC, I guess).

Look for another Miami-FSU thriller as the two top teams of the
last 5 (now 6) years go head to head in (yet another) top 5
showdown. Noles by a last-second field goal, I say.

Dave Ryan

Go Noles!
From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten Guest Prognosticators
Keywords: Big Ten
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:07:54 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

(Randy Peppler) writes:

>
>M.A. says:			Northwestern 20, PURDUE 16
>V.J. says:			PURDUE 28, Northwestern 27
>B.K. says:			Northwestern 21, PURDUE 17
>P.L. says:			PURDUE 24, Northwestern 10
>
>	(Ed. note:  If NU does indeed win this game, the Purdue
>	football program should be disbanded and the gargantuan
>	new football facility given to the English Department)

We have an English Department here???  I kinda thought we could donate it
to Brother Max and Brother Jed.....
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| lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 00:59:58 -0400 
From: Jason Matthew Grusky <jg4r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Division 3 Game of the Year
	<1992Sep24.171734.20983@ncsu.edu>

    The winner of Saturday's matchup between Carnegie Mellon University
(Pittsburgh) and Allegheny College (Meadville, Pa) could be a good
indicator of who will win this year's Division 3 national championship. 
But who cares... 
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From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: usa
Summary: wasted talent
Keywords: Marquette Smith
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:29:06 GMT


Perhaps you have missed some of my other posts. In one of them I mentioned
the situation of Marquette. Like so many other very talented players, Bobby
has decided in his infinite wisdom to put Smith (a rb rated higher than
Faulk the year they graduated) on the bench. There, I would not be the least
bit surprised, is probably where he will stay for the rest of his career. At
most he will start as a senior...as is Bowden's tendency. Until then we get
stuck with Tiger McMillon (Mr. Fumble-on-the-goal-line, or Sammie Smith II...
take your pick) and Sean Jackson (a power I back who has absolutly no business
as the tailback in a ace-back offense). Last year we were all running because
we had no recievers to speak of. This year we are all passing due to the new
offense...even though we still have the most talented stable of RB's in the
country at our disposal, IMNSHO. Now, if we were running the good old power
I set like we should be...we might actually have both a running game and a
passing game at the same time...nah...makes to much sense.

Kevin (who wants his power I set back)



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jvbutera@grad09.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:45:32 GMT
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.

In article <009617D0.190E4380@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU> mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes:
*In article <9210011929.AA12584@walt.disney>, chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
*>
*I've heard rumors that Clemson might have an eye on Dick Sheridan.
*Anyone else hear anything. Is Hattfield really finished? Will winning
*the rest this years games save his job? What about the rumor about
*Danny Ford and South Carolina?

Seeing how Danny Ford is now working with Arkansas, I doubt he'd leave 
to go to South Carolina quite anytime soon.

As far as Clemson, it's a question of who's more powerful, IPTAY or 
the Clemson Administration.  IPTAY'ed replace any non 8-3 or better 
coach in a heartbeat, whereas I think the administration wants Hatfield
to clean up Clemson's left-over Danny Ford (I-don't-care-about-the-players-
graduation-rates) problems.  Clemson's graduation rate actually did not 
budge after prop 48 went into effect, whereas the NAtional football players
rates went up almost 10-20%.

My $0.02


-- 
Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
From: gt6548a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt6548a GIBSON,MICHAEL CARL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Ga Tech - NC State
Summary: Dramatic finish!
Keywords: Jones, Sisson, dancing in the rain, etc.
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:32:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Shawn Jones completed a pass with one second left into a
crowd of Wolfpack defenders, setting up Scott Sisson for
the go-ahead field goal with no time remaining.  Sisson nailed
it to give GT the win over NC State, 16-13.

A crowd ran onto the field into the rain to celebrate.  It's last-
second heroics like this that make being at this school a little
easier.

-- 
GIBSON,MICHAEL CARL
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: jr10847@meibm21.cen.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Lee Reeve)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Ex-Purdue QB Brian Fox
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:18:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCtn3.BGH
Organization: CCSO College of Engineering Workstations

In article <1992Sep29.171615.5692@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes:
|> In article <BvBq7v.AI4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> greens@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Shawn Green) writes:
|> >Does anybody in netland remember this guy?  He was really good as a freshman,
|> >but then transferred to somewhere in Florida.  Anyone know where, and if he
|> >ever played / plays?
|> >
|> >
|> Last I heard, he went to Florida.  Big mistake.  He's probably the backup
|> QB behind Matthews.  Any Gators verify this?
|> 
|> -- 
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------
|> | Pat Lawson                     :  Go Buckeyes!!!!!!            |
|> | lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
|
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
     Brian Fox, who won Big Ten Freshman of the year
     honors while at Purdue, transferred to the University
     of Florida (easily the finest athletic and academic
     institution on the planet).  After sitting out a year,
     Fox saw some action as a second/third string quarterback
     under Steve Spurriers awesome "Air-Florida" offense.

     At the beginning of this season, however, his athletic
     scholarship was rescinded, because the Gators are simply
     too deep at quarterback.  He was however granted an  
     academic scholarship and remains at the University of 
     Florida as a graduate student in the mechanical engineering
     department.
      
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     *  JR10847@COEWL.CEN.UIUC.EDU     
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From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Subject: Re: r.s.f.c 4th newsgroup poll
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:25:02 GMT

Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD> writes:
>- Use the same format that Chris Stassen uses for the CFPOOL picks.

># $                  <--- always on the first line
># Miami, Florida          pound sign, single space, team name
># Washington                  (nothing else on the line)
># (etc, for the other 23 teams)

Note that this isn't quite the same format as the CFPOOL.  The
desired pool format doesn't include the ``pound signs'' ("#") at
the beginning of each line.  I do accept entries in this format,
but it is a bit of a hassle.  I am forced to edit them by hand
because the scoring program -- like many unix utilities -- treats
lines that start with "#" as comments and ignores them.

I think this confusion arose because I used the "pound signs" in
the 1991 Rules Posting for the college pool.  I had included an
"example entry" in that posting, but was trying to make it look
like an "included file."  At the time, I was using "#" for
included text rather than the more common ">".

Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.  At some time in the
future (not now, because I don't have time to rewrite the scoring
program) Bapi and I should get together and standardize on a
single format.  (I haven't been able to get Email to him, though.)
--
Chris Stassen			408-943-0630			stassen@alc.com