From: julian@tfs.com (Julian Elischer)
Subject: Working Groups for 386bsd.
Organization: Trw Financial Systems
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:49:56 GMT

The following mail aliases have been created on ref.tfs.com
and mail has (hopefully) been fixed in the tfs.com domain
so that they work:

386bsd_kernel:          :include:/usr/aliases/kernel
386bsd_drivers: 386bsd_net_drivers 386bsd_misc_drivers
386bsd_net_drivers:     :include:/usr/aliases/net_drivers
386bsd_misc_drivers:    :include:/usr/aliases/misc_drivers
386bsd_sharedlibs:      :include:/usr/aliases/sharedlibs
386bsd_Xfree86:         :include:/usr/aliases/Xfree86
386bsd_gcc:             :include:/usr/aliases/gcc
386bsd_libg++:          :include:/usr/aliases/libg++
386bsd_mathlib:         :include:/usr/aliases/mathlib

386bsd_ghostscript:     :include:/usr/aliases/ghostscript
386bsd_ghostview:       :include:/usr/aliases/ghostview
386bsd_binutils:        :include:/usr/aliases/binutils
386bsd_make:            :include:/usr/aliases/make

386bsd_xview:           :include:/usr/aliases/xview
386bsd_xvgr:            :include:/usr/aliases/xvgr
386bsd_xfract:          :include:/usr/aliases/xfract
386bsd_ftptool:         :include:/usr/aliases/ftptool

386bsd_archie:          :include:/usr/aliases/archie
386bsd_elm:             :include:/usr/aliases/elm
386bsd_mush:            :include:/usr/aliases/mush
386bsd_uemacs:          :include:/usr/aliases/uemacs
386bsd_tf:              :include:/usr/aliases/tf
386bsd_less:            :include:/usr/aliases/less
386bsd_zip:             :include:/usr/aliases/zip
386bsd_mkcmd:           :include:/usr/aliases/mkcmd
386bsd_fortran:         386bsd_ftoc
386bsd_ftoc:            :include:/usr/aliases/ftoc

at the moment addition to these groups is manual.
send mail to the group and hopefully someone will add you,
or alternatively, add yourself to the indicated file
(make sure it etains 666 permissions)

new groups may be added by any user of ref (including guest)
so I hope people will do so.

if you cannot get yourself added to a group and you wish to
participate in development realted to that group, send me mail at 
julian@ref.tfs.com and I will add you.

Bill jolitz has told me that the following work needs to be done:

1/ he needs some people to validate the gcc2.3.1 suite by 
compiling the entire 386bsd distribution and  noting what changes need
to be made: (does gdb work?)

(386bsd_gcc is probably the place to go to do this) I will try add another disk
to ref specifically for this large task.

2/ he would like some people familiar with shared libraries, to get together
and he will work with them (he is busy) towards implimenting shared 
libraries.

Join 386bsd_sharedlibs for this.

3/ the new linux math package might be looked at by someone
and maybe ported (if the author agrees)

volunteers?

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not to nag too much, but,
the following people still don't have .forwards on ref.
I may delete these directories if no-one comes forward to claim them..
(these are ID's I created to match directories made in /usr/home)

Login: abe                              Name: Dave Abercrombie
Login: bakke                            Name: Jeff Bakke
Login: bob                              Name: Robert Innes
Login: budi                             Name: Budi Rahardjo
Login: darryl                           Name:
Login: dave                             Name:
Login: david                            Name: David
Login: delaroca                         Name: Denis DeLaRoca
Login: dws                              Name:
Login: fabio                            Name:
Login: fish                             Name: Fish
Login: fontenot                         Name: ??
Login: geoff                            Name: Geoff Matrangola
Login: glenn                            Name:
Login: kevins                           Name: Kevin Schroedel
Login: lape                             Name: Lars Persson
Login: mark                             Name: Mark Sienkiewicz
Login: mcnally                          Name: Mike McNally
Login: mit                              Name: <- who made this directory? HUGE
Login: msuomala                         Name: Matti Suomalainen
Login: nix                              Name:
Login: patrick                          Name:
Login: pauls                            Name: Paul Southworth
Login: pepper                           Name:
Login: perelet                          Name: Perelet Oleg
Login: peter                            Name:
Login: pmcgilla                         Name:
Login: polowski                         Name:
Login: rwillard                         Name: Bob Willard
Login: shanny                           Name:
Login: shimizu                          Name:
Login: spm                              Name: Sean McDermott
Login: spoo                             Name: ??
Login: staylor                          Name:
Login: stephens                         Name:
Login: sxs                              Name: ??
Login: tbuskey                          Name: Tom Buskey Tbuskey
Login: toad                             Name: ??
Login: todd                             Name: Todd
Login: tra                              Name: Timo Tero Tapio Raty
Login: whedle                           Name: ??
Login: wilker                           Name: Clarence Wilkerson
Login: wright                           Name: Brian C. Wright

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Some people have suggested I place an IRC on ref rather than the planned
(probably COOL) MUD. I am open to suggestions but a MUD may
give more flexibility in terms
of specialised 'meeting' facilities such as the ability
to 'table' code fragments for discussion and such, also
a mud needs only that the users have a telnet rather than a special client.
(though one helps) This is still open.

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ref has a MTBF of about 36 hours at the moment
(probably the heaviest used 386bsd machine around)
so I will be booting it each 24 hours (preemptively)
probably around 17:00 GMT (9AM PST?)
until we find the memory leaks etc.

Things I want to see include a good MAN system that can handle
normal MAN docs not the CAT docs presently on 386bsd.


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