HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: knut@uni-paderborn.de (Knut Menzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.transputer
Subject: Re: "Counted Array"
Date: 26 Jan 1993 13:46:29 GMT
Organization: University of Paderborn
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|> Hi Netters
|> I am shifting my focus from Occam to C now. The following question made 
|> me confusing, i.e. how to implemente the counted array of Occam in C 
|> efficiently?
|> For example, we can replace 
|> 
|> Input ? Length :: Array -- In Occam, receiving the length and array together
|> with two C channel statements
|> 
|> Len = ChanInInt(Input)     /* In C, the Length must be known in advance
|> ChanIn(Input, Array, Length)

The normal way to implement the counted array of Occam in C efficiently
is the same as in Occam. Use two channel statements...

	Len = ChanInInt(Input)    /* Receiving the length of the next stream */
	ChanIn(Input, Array, Len) /* Receiving the data of size Len */

That's all. Instead of the first statement it is possible to send a header
of constant length to the receiving node in order to present more information
of the sender (function number, ID of sender,...) than just an integer.

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From: andyr@wizzy.com (Andy Rabagliati)
Subject: Re: dynamic loading and linking
Keywords: ANSI Toolset, dynamic configuration
Organization: W.Z.I.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:32:23 GMT

In article <1jjopuINNbqs@iraul1.ira.uka.de> mager@i41s12.ira.uka.de (Hendrik Mager) writes:
>--
>Hi,
>I need some information and/or help on loading dynamical distributed
>programs onto a transputernetwork without resetting the network.
>

You might look at a program called check, the basis of ispy. The source
of check should be available. Last I knew, it was on
archive-server@inmos.com.

This does dynamic network loading, and dynamic code paging (into
internal RAM).

The technique is that the code on the Transputer is brought down to a
single thread, and then there is some assembler that emulates the
bootstrap mechanism, to reload code as if the machine were just being
booted.

It also includes tools to put your own bootstrap on the front of a
compiled module. You could even twiddle the supplied bootstrap, though
I wouldn't recommend it.

The module must have a fixed parameter list - I think only one INT which
is the bootstrapping link.

Cheers,  Andy.     (getting rusty on this stuff :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: BJ200 and TurboDriver
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 13:15:07 GMT

In article <gilbertd.727691872@cs.man.ac.uk> gilbertd@cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert) writes:
>Hi All,
>I've just received a canon BJ200 with CC Turbo
>Driver - and it is stunning , the quality is 
>very good (although see below), its
>VERY fast (when you have been using an FX80 for
>the last 8 or 9 years!).

Computer Concepts sent out a press release recently which stated that
Impression 2.18 and Artworks 1.10 are now ready. Unfortunately they have
now changed their minds, and expect these products to be available within
the next week or two (despite the fact that a number of exhibitors at BETT
were using these new versions, and have had them for a while).

Simon
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From: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk (Hugo Fiennes)
Subject: Re: Big partitions on the PC emulator 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Serial Port
Reply-To: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:46:18 +0000

In article <ssudavss.727608412@reading> ssudavss@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk writes:

>Yesterday I tried to set up a biggish partition on the PC Emulator 1.8.
>I told it to create a 90Mb C drive. This it did. I then created the partition
>from DRDOS 5 using FDISK and could happily read and write files to the DOS 
>drive from the PC emulator.
>
>When I tried to double click on the partition from RISC OS (A5000, 3.1 etc etc)
>after having quit the emulator software, I got an address exception and the 
>whole machine refused to do anything but it did not lock up (I have a feeling 
>that it killed the filer).
>
>Not being put off, I decided to try a 50Mb partition. Same problem!
>
>Eventually I got fed up and used a 25Mb partition which I knew worked.
>
>Is this a bug (or am I going MaD! *8-) ).
DOSFS in RO3.1 appears to only support MSDOS3.2 partitions, ie 32Mb or less.
Bit of a pain, since I've written something that shows a partition file for
a whole SCSI device, so you'd be able to read (eg) 128Mb m-o carts from
a PC, but (guess what) only if it has a <=32Mb partition....

Hugo

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From: r_voisey@kiwi.uwe.ac.uk (R Voisey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Modula3 for RISCiX
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:17:39 GMT
Reply-To: r_voisey@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk
Organization: The University of the West of England, Bristol (The Magic Roundabout)

In article <1993Jan22.151506.7700@unix.brighton.ac.uk>, rjb12@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Titch) writes:

|> A C++ compiler, in whatever form, would be absolutely terrific. Since Acorn
|> (when I asked them) said they had no plans for such a compiler, I would
|> assume that whoever did bring one out would become very popular.

I was under the impression that 'DDE 2' including a c++ compiler was common
knowledge..  I've certainly heard Acorn people mention it in public (ie non NDA)
circumstances.  Of course, we're likely to die waiting for it..

Cheers

Bob

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: ACORN RESPONSE TO !3DICONS
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:12:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.152836.7705@unix.brighton.ac.uk> rjb12@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Titch) writes:
[various bits about the Acorn 3Dicons]

The Acorn 3Dicons look quite attractive. For those people who have not
seen them (they are being previewed at BETT '93), here is a brief
description:

Acorn has produced a modified version of !SetIcons called !3Dicons.
This has a revised frontend, which allows the user to choose from
a selection of different 'textured' backdrops - for example, some of
them look like the surface of a brick wall (but in grey).

The toolsprites and sliders are also textured, but to a lesser degree,
and there are also some new high resolution sprites for the Switcher,
disc drive icons etc.

Acorn has demonstrated them to the public at various Acorn Open Days & 
the BETT Show, and BBC Acorn User magazine has also commented on them,
so the response which "Titch" received is quite illuminating. I have even
heard the story that there is a PD library which is distributing them,
although I have no more information than that, so it may be completely
untrue. The only time I have seen them is running on Acorn machines at
the BETT Show.

Simon

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From: burke@vxdesy.desy.de (Stephen Burke)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:13:43 GMT

In article <11428@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk>, sproven@cs.strath.ac.uk (Simon B Proven IE91) writes:
> Please note: I am connected with Advance (I was CRM's tester) and have
> a financial stake in the spreadsheet so don't expect be to be totally
> unbiased. :-)

Aside from all the comments about the protection system, would you or someone
else like to tell us something *about* Advance :-)

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From: r_voisey@kiwi.uwe.ac.uk (R Voisey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Special Offer on A3010
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:56:15 GMT
Reply-To: r_voisey@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk
Organization: The University of the West of England, Bristol (The Magic Roundabout)

In article <930020140016@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>, N.M.Queen@UK.AC.BIRMINGHAM (Queen) writes:

|> many other dealers would do the same.  There are definite advantages
|> in purchasing from a well established and experienced Acorn dealer.

Hmm.  A certain major branch of Dixons in a certain city (not so very far from
me right now) have recently taken to selling 3010s at discounted price, and
then sending their customers straight round to a nearby Acorn dealership for
service and support.  I suppose making a couple of quid on selling some software
is better than nothing, but I still think it's a cheek.

Bob

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From: rjb12@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Titch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: ACORN RESPONSE TO !3DICONS
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:28:36 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

To all those who requested a copy of the !3DIcons toolsprites, I am sorry
to tell you that because of the following email I received I am unable to
distribute them.

Please accept my apologies, but try and be consoled by the fact that at
least we're not breaching any copyright agreements. I could say 'I don't
give a stuff', but that really wouldn't be the sensible option, especially
considering Acorn now have my id.

With sadness and apologies,

Rich.


*Received from mark@acorn:

Please do NOT distribute material which has come into your possesion,
by whatever means, which you believe to have originated in Acorn, and
which is not explicitly marked as being freely re-distributable.  It
is not clear from your recent posting just where you did get the 3D
toolsprite set from, but it cannot have been directly from Acorn since
Acorn would always require a non-disclosure agreement with anyone
outside the company to whom that sort of material was given.

*Comment: The app. was received from Acorn - but I can't obviously say who

In due time I expect Acorn will release an "official" set of 3D tool-
sprites (which may differ from what you have, in any case).  But it
hasn't happened yet, and when it does, there will be a well-defined
distribution mechanism.  Please do not give anyone else a copy of what
you have - indeed I believe you ought to destroy it, since so far as I
can determine it is not a legitimate copy.  If you have already sent
copies to other people, please pass on this request to them also.

Obviously I cannot personally force you to comply with this request
(it would be up to Acorn's legal department to deal with that) but I
suggest that it is your own best interests to do so.  Acorn has in the
past taken legal action against people infringing its copyrights.


Sincerely,

Mark Taunton.


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From: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis)
Subject: Acorn User
Organization: Aston University
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:20:14 GMT

  An interesting quote from the news pages of Acorn User (February 93)

  "...Acorn are planning to increase their TV coverage this year, so stay tuned"

  Does this mean another Ad. campaign? Or something else...



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From: rocky@nnsgs50.lon40.nt.com (Dave Kennard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:37:34 GMT
Organization: Northern Telecom Europe
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In article <1993Jan26.105445.5172@cs.nott.ac.uk> smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows) writes:
>In article <1k0f8lINNe5f@oak45.doc.ic.ac.uk> ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:
>>Now let's just see, Dave Kennard is number 99 in NCS's queue, and I
That's me!
>>(two weeks ago) was number 3. I'm still waiting, that means that
>>supply is less than 2 a week (probably 0.000000001 average), thus -
>>gosh perhapse in two more years (certainly more than 1)........

>As I've said so many times, go to another dealer! Why have you waited so long
>for NCS to supply? If any dealer took that long to supply, and others had the
>item in stock for less money, I know which I'd go to. 

Simon, you have mentioned 3 times recently that we won't be dissapointed by
our long waits for the A5000 RO3.1 upgrades - why is this?  Are Acorn about
to launch a RO3.2 - or a bug fixed RO3.1 (RO3.11 perhaps)?

About alternate dealers:

Me: 'Have you any A5000 RO3.1 upgrades in stock?'
Dealer: 'Yes.'
Me: 'If I give you my credit card number can you put one in the post
TODAY?'
Dealer: 'Err, well, err, they will be in stock any day now...'
Me: 'So you HAVN'T got any in stock...'
Dealer: 'Any day now.'
Me: 'When WILL you have some in stock?'
Dealer: 'Any day now.'
Dealer: 'Any day now.'
Dealer: 'Any day now.'
Dealer: 'Any day now.'
...

At least NCS claim that they havn't got the faintest clue when (or if)
they will have any more, and that time would be better spent annoying Acorn
rather than them.  (Which is why I have taken to occupying comp.sys.acorn
bandwidth with this line of whinging!)

Further, the NCS price of L20 inclusive of VAT and postage seems
competetive, is the inclusive price that much cheaper elsewhere?

>Simon Burrows   smb@cs.nott.ac.uk  psyhsmb@unicorn.nott.ac.uk  +44 533 712030

Dave Kennard

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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Subject: Re: Acorn news release: Advance
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:17:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.120539.19118@cs.nott.ac.uk> rsxdp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (D.Pead) writes:
>-  Software installed on machines with no ID chip was unprotected (Maybe
>   software installed on a machine with ID would complain if run on
>   a system without one? This would make sense and would deter people
>   from just removing the chips).

I agree with what you say, but it sounds crazy! After all, the majority
of machines currently in use do not have an ID chip, and so default to
number zero, the same as if you rip the ID chip out of a newer machine.
This protection seems to be of very limited use, and I can't imagine
that it will do much to stop the problem of illegal software copying.

Simon
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From: burke@vxdesy.desy.de (Stephen Burke)
Subject: Re: That 1000 pound sampling card
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:47:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.141717.1881@maths.tcd.ie>, chughes@maths.tcd.ie (Conrad Hughes) writes:
> Last figures I heard, there were a few hundred thousand Archimedes
> out there and more than a few tens of millions of PCs, so the margin
> is even worse - the Arc manufacturer can only expect a market size
> perhaps a hundredth that of a PC manufacturer..

Yes, but in the PC world there are probably at least 10 companies competing
for the market for every one in the Acorn world (big fish in small ponds and
all that).

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From: barrett@turtle.fisher.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: re. RO3 Printer Drivers
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:07:38 CDT
Organization: Fisher Controls International, Austin, TX

Thanks for your replies to my comments on printer drivers. Perhaps my comments 
were a little harsh and un-called for. I'm not critisising the way Acorn have
implemented their printer drivers (I think that this is one of the best
features of RISC OS !), I just think that Acorn should put more effort into
producing and supporting their printer drivers.

For example, Panasonic have a fairly large market share of the printer market
in the UK and abroad. However there is not a single printer driver supplied
with RISC OS 3 that has the name of a Panasonic printer. We 'techies' can
probably quess that an Epson LQ-850 driver will work with a Panasonic 1124
printer. However this is not obvious to many people - the sort of people that
use computers occasionally for odd bits of word processing - i.e. the
majority of computer users. If the Archimedes is to have any hope of becomming
aq mass market machine, then this is the market that Acorn must target.

If it is so simple to create a printer driver, then this makes Acorn's 'crime'
even worse. If the driver for the 1124 is the same as the LQ-850 then why
doesn't Acorn simply copy it and rename it P1124, and supply it on a disc of
printer drivers.

Incidentally I use the excellent Laser Direct printer with Impression for
word-processing. However, even this requires some knowledge to avoid 
problems with rotated fonts, memory constraints etc.

Cheers,

Ralph Barrett
Fisher.Controls Systems Division
Leicester UK

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From: nas20@cl.cam.ac.uk (Nick Smith)
Subject: Re: Best buy ARM 3 for old A440/RO3.10
Reply-To: nas20@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:24:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.171022.16674@cs.nott.ac.uk> smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.121139.8140@infodev.cam.ac.uk> JNA10@phx.cam.ac.uk writes:
>I'm not yet convinced about the worth of these more expensive ARM3 upgrades
>which come with a socket for the forthcoming FPA. I'm told (anyone confirm
>this?) that these upgrades were designed around the preliminary spec for
>the FPA, and the pinouts have now changed - in this case a carrier board
>will be needed, which could be a problem given the proximity of the ARM
>chip to the disc drive.

No, the FPA socket in the A5000 (and presumably all ARM3/FPA upgrades) will
take the FPA chip direct - no carrier board required 8-)
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From: eivind@kih.no (eivind hagen)
Subject: Re: Watford Electronics
Organization: Kongsberg Ingeniorhogskole
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:04:52 GMT

D.Pead (rsxdp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk) wrote:
> Just out of interest - has anybody managed to get Watford Electronics
> to answer the 'phone in the last few days? I'm counting myself lucky that
> I haven't currently got anything on order from them...
> Maybe their switchboard has gone west or something.

FLAME ON:
These guys are serious major league SUCKERS!!!
They NEVER ansver ANYTHING, I hate them!
FLAME OFF:

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From: smb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Simon Burrows)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Dongles affecting
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:03:15 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <1993Jan25.235136.14679@syma.sussex.ac.uk> mickd@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Mick Dunford) writes:
>There also seems to be a conflict between Acorn and CC over what should
>happen if software is run on a machine that differs from the one for
>which it has been registered. In Acorn's case there will just be a
>warning message. In the case of CC the program will terminate.

Computer Concepts have enough size and power ('clout') to do virtually 
whatever they like. Whether that is a good thing or not is very debatable
- take for example the matter of the 3D Style Guide. Acorn's 3D guide is
not identical to CC's, but it almost certainly would never have been
written if it wasn't for CC's actions. Similarly Acorn's attitude to 
software protection has been "don't do it at all". Now even that appears
to be changing..

Simon
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