From: vander@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (John R. Vanderpool (NASA/GSFC/STX))
Subject: my nnmaster won't collect articles anymore, help!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:43:00 GMT

help! nn keeps telling me: 
	Release 6.4.16,  Kim F. Storm, 1991

	Notice: nnmaster has not updated database in 142 hours
	No News (is good news)

i'm not too great at understanding all the nnadmin stuff but here is
what i can provide PLEASE e-mail me directly (fish@daacdev1.stx.com)
since i can't read Usenet anymore oh-no :-(

it doesnt' want to collect articles anymore - i'm using 6.4.16 with
connection to a NNTP site - see Logs below - it apparantly had a little
trouble late last week connecting to the NNTP host but that was just
a net problem that has since been resolved but that's about when all the
trouble began

nnadmin stat sez:
Master:
initialized:   Apr 27 09:44
last_scan:     Sep  3 16:18		# today is Sep 9 !! -fish
last_size:     63544
no of groups:  1574
	    

Articles:   12561
Disk usage: 426 k
		  
Blocked groups: 1368			# this jumped to 1368 after some
					# of my nnadmin attempts -fish
Ignored groups:  33

i rotate logs on sunday, here is the tail of my Log.old:

C: Sep  3 15:12 (M): Collect: 188 art, 140 gr, 55 s
C: Sep  3 15:23 (M): Collect: 219 art, 143 gr, 65 s
N: Sep  3 15:35 (M): Can't access active file --- sleeping
C: Sep  3 15:46 (M): Collect: 333 art, 197 gr, 88 s
C: Sep  3 15:57 (M): Collect: 373 art, 220 gr, 69 s
C: Sep  3 16:08 (M): Collect: 146 art, 112 gr, 41 s
C: Sep  3 16:20 (M): Collect: 196 art, 139 gr, 71 s
R: Sep  3 16:39 (busch): Giving up on NNTP server news2.gsfc.nasa.gov!
R: Sep  3 16:45 (busch): Giving up on NNTP server news2.gsfc.nasa.gov!
R: Sep  3 19:24 (frank): Giving up on NNTP server news2.gsfc.nasa.gov!


here is my new log:

A: Sep  4 23:59 (root): Log Truncated		# from my cronfile
A: Sep  6 22:00 (root): SEND X (all)   0
A: Sep  8 17:35 (fish): SEND O (all) t -1
A: Sep  8 17:37 (fish): SEND O (all) t -1
A: Sep  8 17:40 (fish): SEND R (all)   0
A: Sep  9 12:16 (fish): SEND X (all)   0
A: Sep  9 12:16 (fish): SEND R (all)   0
M: Sep  9 12:21 (M): Master started -r10 -e0 -E1
M: Sep  9 12:22 (M): Database validation completed
A: Sep  9 12:22 (M): RECV X (all)   0 (root Sep  6 22:00)
A: Sep  9 12:22 (M): RECV O (all) t -1 (fish Sep  8 17:35)
A: Sep  9 12:22 (M): RECV O (all) t -1 (fish Sep  8 17:37)
A: Sep  9 12:22 (M): RECV R (all)   0 (fish Sep  8 17:40)
A: Sep  9 12:24 (M): RECV X (all)   0 (fish Sep  9 12:16)
A: Sep  9 12:24 (M): RECV R (all)   0 (fish Sep  9 12:16)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.flame.marshal.perlman.weenie (1558)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.tv.northern-exp (1559)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.bonsai (1560)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.fan.disney.afternoon (1561)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.amateur-comp (1562)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.politics.usa.misc (1563)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.politics.usa.constitution (1564)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.politics.libertarian (1565)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.politics.reform (1566)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.politics.org.misc (1567)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: rec.heraldry (1568)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna (1569)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.cesium (1570)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.education.bangkok (1571)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.sci.planetary (1572)
C: Sep  9 12:24 (M): new group: alt.fan.holmes (1573)
A: Sep  9 14:50 (fish): SEND R news.software.nn   0
A: Sep  9 14:56 (fish): SEND R comp.sys.sgi   0

i restarted nnmaster manually just for so - usually invoked in /etc/rc

then i tried some nnadmin stuff but didn't really know what i was doing

the last two entries 14:50 and 14:55 i went into the Groups option of
nnadmin and tried to force it to collect and it created a nn/GATE file:
R;889; ;0;fish Sep  9 14:50;
R;672; ;0;fish Sep  9 14:56;

here is my cronfile:
00 23      * * *   /dsk/usr/local/lib/nn/back_act
02 6,12,18 * * *   /dsk/usr/local/lib/nn/nnspew
00 22      * * 0,3 /dsk/usr/local/bin/nnadmin =EYW              # nn expire
59 23      * * 5   /dsk/usr/local/bin/nnadmin L@                # rotate nn Log file

everything had been working like a charm for months now - help!!

remember to send email directly instead of following up.

			fish

John R. Vanderpool       513-1683   Commerce II/323