HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Subject: aachip for 3000(was r
Reply-To: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:12:36 EST


Mike Meyer writes,

MM>So don't. CBM isn't forcing you to buy new hardware. Nobody in their
MM>right mind will be writing software that _requires_ the new chip set
MM>for quite a while (I'd guess between a year or two). And your machine
MM>(and mine) will be just as usefull after they announce a new chip set
MM>as it was before. So what's the rush?

 Actually there are a lot of programs getting ready to be released. New
Horizon is already advertising the new version of Pro Write has AGA 
support. Other programs expected to be released with AGA support late
this year or early next year are, Professional Page, Professional Draw, 
Page Stream, Dpaint 5, Imagine, Art Department, Excellence ect. A lot
of companies have been working on versions for quite some time. The reason
for the quick turn around is due to the simple modifications required. 
 
 Workbench 2.0 as a halfway step the the AGA chipset. Programs written for
WB 2.0 got most of the screen information from the OS. Because the program
was programmed this way all that is required is support for more colour 
registers. 

          robert.buonincontro&canrem.com
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From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More AmigaWorld Lies
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:24:36 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
[.... deleted ...]
>>Why don't you sell your Amiga, buy one of those wonderful IBM PC clones,
>>and post to the PC groups.  We already know that the Amiga is a niche
>>market, doesn't have all of the latest gee whiz technology, and is never
>>going to replace the PC or the Mac.  We like it for what it has, and when
>>we need a new computer, maybe we'll jump ship if the competition has what
>>we want.  We don't need you to continue to sound the death toll, three
>>to four years is long enough.

Yes, please Marc?  Could you do this and maybe start being "your wonderful
self" over where we don't need to see it?

>   What I want is a better Amiga.  I can more honestly call myself an Amiga
>pioneer than 90% of the people who flame me for my messages.  I got my first
>Amiga in March of 1986, only a few months after it started hitting the streets.
>There are probably plenty of people at Commodore who ahve not been using
>Amigas as long as I have.

Yes, but not in the engineering group.  I know that most of us had machines
in 1985.  I know that I was a developer for the Amiga at the time of the
New York show (the 1985 Amiga introduction to the world...)  Randall Jesup
was an Amiga user back then, so was Dave, etc.  But that is not important.
There are some here that did not have their machines from the beginning.
However, they have been *constructive* in their efforts with the Amiga.
Many of us have come from other industries to help make the Amiga be
better.  We do not spread falsehoods or flames but rather try to really
do something.  (Products as 3rd parties or Amiga development as employees
of Commodore.)

When we tell you that you do not have your facts correct and yet you
continue to state as if you *know* (as if it is a fact) when you only
have your own (slanted) view as to what is really going on, you do
a disservice to the Amiga and the Amiga community.  As everyone knows,
the Amiga is not perfect.  Commodore is not perfect.  In fact, nothing
is perfect.  However, we are also not absolutely bad nor do we try to
be bad.

/----------------------------------------------------------------------\
|      /// Michael Sinz  -  Senior Amiga Systems Engineer              |
|     ///                   Operating System Development Group         |
|    ///   BIX:  msinz      UUNET:  mks@cbmvax.commodore.com           |
|\\\///    "A master's secrets are only as good as the                 |
| \XX/      master's ability to explain them to others" - Michael Sinz |
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From: gs@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Greg Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with A4000
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:32:42 GMT



>	I am having some trouble with my new Amiga 4000. It doesn't run
>some programs that ram on my A3000/16, such as Populous II, Deluxe Paint II,
>Fighter Duel II, Leisure Suit Larry II, Where in the Hell is Carmen Sandiego?,
>Amiga BASIC, Sybil, some of U4ia's music modules, Notepad 2.0, etc. Running
>Kickstart 1.1 and 1.2 didn't help either. Also my MAST floppy drive seems
>to not work very well anymore. If anyone has any suggestions please email.
>
>
>	Thanks in advance.

Well, the first advice I can offer is BLAZEMONGER tools.  It's now
being distributed by New Horizons; call them for details.  hmm, check
Fred Fish disk 862, there's a program on there called SetVersion, which
remaps any version of Kickstart 0.4 alpha -> 3.0 to your Virtual Memory.

Hope this helps.

 - Greg

<gs@teeot.acusd.edu>
>
>      //   David Tiberio  SUNY Stony Brook 516-473-5156 AMIGA  DDD-MEN   
>     //  bounce-resistant:    dtiberio%libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu@sunysb.edu
>   \X/	 "Who will PROTECT TRUTH when I no LONGER HERE?!!"  - Jeff Young
>
From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: how do Ireach physik?
Date: 13 Sep 92 16:11:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


     How to I get on the physik server (?)?  Thanks...
   
                                                 -TKH '92
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: SiliconMenus and ToolsDaemon...NOT
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:04:35 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <1992Sep10.093722.14091@uni-paderborn.de>, tron@uni-paderborn.de (Matthias Scheler) writes:
|> tomri@ida.liu.se (Tom Rindborg) writes:
|> 
|> >markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:
|> 
|> >> (Or wait for Toolmanager 2.0 , this one will bring
|> >> the revolution on your Workbench...)
|> 
|> Yes, indeed, it's GREAT !!!
|> Exspecially the ***CENSORED*** and the ***CENSORED***.

 You forgot *** NDA *** , Matthias.

|> 
|> >When, oh WHEN??? It should be illegal to tease us like this... :-)
|> 
|> Yes, but it's VERY funny :-)

 Why, oh why are we so infamous ? :)

|> 
[...]
|> Matthias Scheler                                         tron@uni-paderborn.de

 Another ToolManager Beta-Tester.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: Scott.Maxwell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Scott Maxwell)
Subject: Re: 68010
Keywords: 68010
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:44:44 GMT

In article <4444@equinox.unr.edu> dollens@equinox.unr.edu (C Blake Dollens) writes:
>Someone on a local BBS suggested to me recently that a 68010 processor supports
>virtual memory.  My immediate response was no, because you need a PMMU for that
>purpose. [ ... ] Am I right?  

At the risk of sounding like a certain well-known NRA slogan: CPUs don't
support virtual memory. Operating systems support virtual memory.

What the 68010 supports is page faulting, which you need in order to
implement VM in your OS (unless you want to run everything on a virtual
CPU, I suppose). A PMMU isn't *absolutely* necessary -- you could, I
imagine, sorta emulate one in the OS software, if you wanted your machine
to run slower than ENIAC. I wouldn't try it. 

> What is the difference between the 68000 and the 68010?  I was 
>under the impression that the '010 had slightly more efficient instruction code
>in some areas, and that's all.  Benchmarks wouldn't increase with an '010
>significantly, would they?

Not unless they were specifically designed to measure an increase, no. I
liked the speedup I got from my 68010; the minor speed increase was worth
the minor trouble and expense. To me. It's hard to tell it's there unless
you know it is, though. 

> I think this was covered in this newsgroup a while
>back; I apologize if everybody's already heard this.  Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't know; I never pay attention. :-)

>Blake

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From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Help with Spice!
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:05:18 GMT

Yes, it was the stack size that was causing the problem.  (It was only
at 4000).  I increased it to 40000 and now it's perfectly happy.  Someone
else wrote me to say that 10000 may be adequate.

Thanks to everyone who helped.

						---Joel Kolstad
From: bryan@cs.utexas.edu (Bryan Bayerdorffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Silliness of the day
Date: 9 Sep 1992 12:31:18 -0500
Organization: Spam Detection & Removal Squad, Austin, TX
Reply-To: bryan@cs.utexas.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: peaches.cs.utexas.edu
Spam-Content: Negligible

In article <1992Sep5.171639.27363@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin) writes:
=->In article <la865kINN60@peaches.cs.utexas.edu>, Bryan Bayerdorffer writes:
=-
=->> 1. Own A2630 (v6 ROMs)
=->> 2. Boot monitor
=->> 3. Type 't 70000 80000'
=->> 4. Enjoy, rinse, repeat.
=-
=-My only problem is that I forgot how to get into the monitor, now.  :)

Hold down both mouse buttons during boot.  At CPU select screen, hold down
shift-M and click both mouse buttons.
From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Re: World of Commodore summary, 9/12, part 2 (LONG)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 12:31:26 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep13.112204.18476@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
  <1992Sep13.154259.22497@cco.caltech.edu>

>lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
>
>>This information sounded so unbelievable that I find it almost hard to
>>believe. That is why I'd love to see someone to confirm this
>>information on the future plans of Commodore before I spread it to the
>>local BBS'es.
>
>>--
>>Jarkko Lindblad
>>lindblad@cc.helsinki.fii
>
>I don't blame.  I was sitting next to Andre and I couldn't believe what
>I was hearing.  It was as if every complaint anyone could ever have about
>the future of the Amiga was being answered before it could be raised.
>It seems as if Commodore has had a major attitude adjustment, better
>than we could have hoped for.  Every item in Andre's post was an actual
>statement (displayed on a TV screen) not a speculation or interpretation.
>The speech certainly renewed my faith in Commodore.  Just remember, this
>was a public conference, not a private developer's conference.  They intend
>to follow through on all these projects.
>
>                                        -Todd Allendorf
>                                        toddal@cco.caltech.edu
>

Now, the question is..... is this only the engineer's belief of the future?
Or will the big wig stock holders (Gould, Ali) go for it.

-Joel
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From: monster@mbear.apana.org.au (Martin Ozolins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reqtools V38 ??
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:48:18 GMT
Organization: Bears Incorporated
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Sep4.090540.24557@news.uit.no> kjelli@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjell Irgens) writes:
> In article <monster.04rq@mbear.apana.org.au>, monster@mbear.apana.org.au (Martin Ozolins) writes:
> |> 
> |> HHmm, I have tried a few versions of 38 and none of them work.
> |> Anything that uses it crashes, evem PPMore V2. Even the library from 
> |> the latest reqtools20c.lha package does not work for me.
> 
> Strange... I've had no problems what so ever with the library and PPmore 2.0
> work flawlessly.
> 

HHmm, I have tried 38.803 and 38.810 and both have a 80000003 error.

If I type PPMORE with no filename, it has the above error. If I go back to
V37 and try the above, it opens up its file requestor window.

If I type PPMORE FILENAME, it opens the file but then hangs if I try to do 
something. V37 works.

If I boot and hold down both mouse buttons, disable the startup sequence and
continue booting, type PPMORE with no filename, it still has the above error
yet V37 works.

What more can I say, I have NetMailed the author but have not heard from
him as yet.

If I get it to work, I shall post a msg
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: zxmoa01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Andreas Otte)
Subject: Never got my registered lha !
Keywords: lha
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Distribution: LHA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:30:26 GMT

 I send away a letter incl. cash to boberg (sweden) in march. No response !
A bit frustrated i tried to reach him via e-mail ( 10 times) -> No response !
Are there more users getting this kinda support from boberg ???
.
.




Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: Amiga 500 discontinued?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:17:08 GMT

In <2AAE56A5.1413@ics.uci.edu> rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang) writes:

>Let's say you buy a 600.  Then you decide "gee, a faster processor
>would be nice."  So you'll either have to ...

>	Buy a new Amiga.

 Well why not?  I should certainly think that a 16 Mhz 68030 based A3000
should outperform a 25 Mhz 68030(or even 40 Mhz) stuck inside an A500.

Right now if you want a harddrive you need to buy a SCSI controller and
case.  How many people are going to upgrade the processor in their little
A600, if it were available?  How many have done it in the A500?
 I'm guessing less than 1% of the owners.  Sound accurate?


 What I'm saying here is that the A600 provides the kind of expansion that
people buying are going to need.  And I'm getting sick of people putting
down a machine because it doesn't come with 24 bit graphics, 16 bit sound, 
200 megs of harddrive space and 25 MIPS of processing power.

 The A600 is what Commodore is, and is the only thing Commodore know's how
to sell.  A cheap home computer that plugs into your TV and plays games.
-- 
Steve Sheldon         sheldon@iastate.edu
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2142 Agronomy, Iowa State University  (515) 294-5429

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: PowerPacker, need latest ShareWare version!
Keywords: PowerPacker
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:34:42 GMT

Can someone tell me where to find the latest version of PowerPacker. I
can't find it on wuarchive and my local BBS only has a version from
1989 (I assume it's been updated since then!). Thanks!
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From: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ryan K. Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Are Developers hearing demand
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:23:06 GMT
Reply-To: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

In article <navy.716242547@vincent1.iastate.edu>, navy@iastate.edu (Scott V Rivera) writes:
>Many times I've seen posts asking for electronic development packages.  Many
>times the replies to those messages are, "Sorry, try Mac."  I would really
>like to have a software package similar to the Mac's DesignWorks.  I think
>there is plenty of demand.
>>Scott Rivera
>navy@iastate.edu


I know,  I have been using LogicWorks on a Mac a school, and I have 
considered buying it today, but then a strange thing happened.  I was
looking at one of the real old C= Amiga accessory catalogs that you
get when you buy a A2000 (I think , Small half-size blue book).. and
I saw LogicWorks running on workbench in a picture.  Sure enough, I looked
it up in the index and it saws LogicWorks, Lw Pro and something else
are all available from:

Capilano Computing
604-699-6343

I will try to get in touch with them and see what is up.


Ryan Brooks
2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: Next generation chips in A4000?
Keywords: new chipsets, WOC
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 07:16:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.201543.16050@cco.caltech.edu> andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew) writes:
>>I would also like to know if the 4000 will be upgradable to that 'high-end
>>chip set' or if it will be part of a brand new machine?
>
>	Louis Eggebrecht (the person who made the presentation) seemed
>to imply that the A4000 is modular to the extent that you will
>be able to upgrade your chipset.  Perhaps a Commodore engineer
>could comment on the modularity of the A4000 (please)?

You probably won't get any reply from C= if you can't; they won't
want to hurt possible sales.  Looking at the provisional specs. for
the next "high-end" chipset, IMHO there is next to no chance
you could put it in the A4000.   

Reasons:

- The use of VRAMs
- The asynch nature of the system
- The fact that it is 4 chips.  It is a mean feat to put 4 chips
into 3 sockets.  Also some people have said the new chips are
surface mounted, which if true, removes the possibility of any
plug-in replacements.

Maybe if the AA chipset is on a daughter board like the processor
it might be possible, but I highly doubt it is.

The fact that another incompatible high-end machine may appear
later should not stop people buying an A4000.  You either want
it, or you don't.  Almost any computer you can buy today won't be
on the cutting-edge of technology in a year or so.

>Andre Yew                             andrey@tybalt.caltech.edu (131.215.48.100)

-- 
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  "And if I seem a little strange, well that's because I am." - The Smiths 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: moore@iastate.edu (Brian J Moore)
Subject: Educational Pricing
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:21:34 GMT

Does C= still offer educational pricing on new systems?

If they do, does anyone have a price list?  There's no dealer very close
to me that I'm aware of...

Thanks,
Brian

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From: Ashley.Frazer@newcastle.ac.uk (Ashley Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: ToolsDeamon
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:11:36 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU

Hi,
  I tried ToolsDaemon earlier but it doesn't seem to have the Dock Icon
  feature of ToolManager. Since I went to some trouble designing icons
  for this and I use it a lot I think I will stick to ToolManager. 
  Does anyone know if the dock feature will be included in a future release?

Ashley
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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More AmigaWorld Lies
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:08:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

>   What I want is a better Amiga.  I can more honestly call myself an Amiga
>pioneer than 90% of the people who flame me for my messages.  I got my first
>Amiga in March of 1986, only a few months after it started hitting the streets.
>There are probably plenty of people at Commodore who ahve not been using 
>Amigas as long as I have.


We all want to see a better Amiga.  
I, however, don't agree with you that time is the only indicator of 
your love for the Amiga.  Many of us, Amigaphiles, might be living in
another part of the world where they didn't hear about the Amiga until,
say, 1986-7.  Furthermore, we might not have enough money at that time
to get one.  Nonetheless, that doesn't mean we don't like the Amiga as
much as you do.

No offense... just want to get that straight.

>>bruce@zuhause.mn.org
>>Youth is wasted on the young.

>---
>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>--------------------------------------------------

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin

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From: Neon@cup.portal.com (Anthony Joseph Bruder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Aquarium beyond 690?
Date: Mon,  7 Sep 92 20:46:29 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

In an article dated 9/6/92:

>I'm looking for the updates to the Aquarium Database beyond Fred Fish disk
>690.  Do these exist yet and are they available for anon. ftp?
>
>Tom Hayko
>wlanders@nexus.yorku.ca

I think that's the latest.  ux1.cso.uiuc.edu seems to have the most up to
date database.

Tony Bruder - neon@cup.portal.com
From: guru@hotcity.COM (Darren Schroeder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: AnimPlayer
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:58:54 PST
Organization: BBS


I am looking for a standard ANIM player that will play files directly off the
HD.. I have some big anims but not enough memory to view them with.. I know
there is stuff like that out for IBM and clones, anything like that for Amiga?