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From: pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Amurrica
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:19:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <1992Apr8.202644.23686@talon.ucs.orst.edu>, tim@comphy.physics.orst.edu
(Tim Mefford) writes:
      [...]
> I'm going to go ahead and point out the hypocrisy of someone from
> Britain portraying any other nation as being obsessed with the past.
> Explain for me, if you will, why Britain, in this day and age, need
> to spend Billions of pounds maintaining a large fleet, dispropotionate
> for its GNP to any nation's, if not to recapture the glory of great
> Brittania.

Peeve: having something I posted to this newsgroup being taken seriously.
(Well, that's not such a big peeve.)

Peeve2: especially when it was something as completely indefensible as
being British and accusing the USAns of being obsessed with the past.

!Peeve: Didn't stop !Al from arguing back. *After* he said he'd killed
this thread and wouldn't listen to any further discussion on it (as if
anyone believed that :-)

      [...]
>       The above nation (that would be the USA) is obsessed with guns.
> Lots of people get shot.  A guy just went nuts and had a shootout with
      [...]

Oops. Geoff said that you guys weren't obsessed with guns. Better go
and have it out with him. Let the rest of know who survives.

yours peevishly,
Paul.

"All candidates of the Natural Law Party have demonstrated greater
orderliness of brain functioning, as indicated by increased
EEG-coherence, and greater command of Natural Law indicated by their
improved mind-body co-ordination in their achievement of Yogic Flying.
We recommend that the voters of each constituency demand comparative
brain functioning analysis from the candidates of other parties."
  - from the manifesto of the Natural Law Party, April 1992
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: trytten@ahmeek.cps.msu.edu (Deborah Trytten)
Subject: Re: Gender assumptions
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 22:37:21 GMT

In article <s25kkINNiu9@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>In article <92099.150257SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> Sonja Kueppers <SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>
>>Example:  I was in a computer lab last week, and I helped a woman at
>>great length with WordPerfect.  After some time, she said, "You're the
>>most helpful lab attendant I've ever spoken with.   Of course, you're
>>also the only female lab attendant I've ever spoken with.  (meaningful
>>glance)"
>
>Now that _is_ weird.  Most male computer lab attendants I've seen become
>slavish to the point of slavering at the sight of a Real Live Woman.

While I'm not sure exactly what slavering is (slathering?), I know
what you mean.  When I post to the comp.* groups, I can often get fifty
or sixty responses back (complete with repeated email messages to ask
if everything is OK) while my male coworkers won't get any.  But you're
both missing an important point.

Often when I ask a man for help, he helps me by doing whatever needs to
be done.  Maybe Sonja *showed* the woman how to do what she needed to
do rather than just jumping in and doing it. There's a huge difference
between these things.  Jumping in and doing whatever needs to be done
makes the lab assistant *feel* like a hero.  After all, he's demonstrated
expertise and solved someone's problems.  The fact that he hasn't left
the person with a way of solving their own problems isn't important.

A few weeks back, I was having problems with
an OS upgrade.  A male coworker would come by and do a quick fix--but
I just couldn't get him to slow down enough so I could actually see
what he was doing.  This left him constantly "helping the damsel in
distress" and feeling like a big hero.  The truth was that if he
would have *explained* what he was doing this damsel wouldn't have
needed his constant rescues.  I'm finally fixed him by turning on
a script mechanism before he arrived.

There are psychological journal articles (Ellen Spertus' paper
on women in computer science contains the references and is one 
good read) showing that this pattern exists.  When girls ask for help
in school the teacher (regardless of gender of the teacher) tends
to solve the problem for them.  When boys ask for help, the teacher 
tends to explain the problem and help them work to a solution.  And then
we all wonder why so many women lack self confidence.

Debby  
trytten@cps.msu.edu
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: QuasiKrautFussing
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:16:07 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Apr15.071327.20848@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de> 
Peter.Bruells@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Peter Bruells) writes:

>
>In everyday-life they just say 'Werkstatt' and leave it to the 
>listener to guess what kind of Werkstatt was meant.  


There's a garage in Los Altos that specializes in the repair of Cherman
cars, called Reitmeir's Werkstatt.  I always liked the sound of that and 
the mental picture it conjured up: a dimly-lit downtown garage full of 
Kubelwagens, Mercedes staff cars, bathtub Porsche 356s and the odd W196 
racer (with desmodromic valve gear, natch), and a mechanic in one of those
flower-pot Wehrmacht helmets (like that guy in The Producers) goose-stepping
about the premises.

There's a Mercedes dealership just north of here in Redwood City called
Autohaus Brugger, another delightfully harsh-sounding German name.  I
mentioned that to my dad when I first noticed it (I must've been about 
10 at the time), and he commented, "Yeah, a coupla squarehead mechanics
or something."


Geoff


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From: egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Where'd he get his name?
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:16:50 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <11068@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
--
--This Poaster is 35 and looks like Glenda Jackson with better cheekbones.
--I understand she is running for office there. How is she doing?

But have you got her sexy teeth?

!peeve - she won
mega!peeve - I finished my thesis

peeve - I still have to defend it
megapeeve - then I'm unemployed


-- 
-jeremy henderson        | I do wonder that so brave a prince as King James 
egpv29@uk.ac.ed.castle   | should be born in so stinking a toun as Edinburgh
                         | in lousy Scotland.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: lane@bot000.enet.dec.com (Mickey)
Subject: Re: peeve dump
Reply-To: lane@bot000.enet.dec.com (Mickey)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:34:07 GMT


potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) sez:
>antipeeve: i shot a gun for the first time last week. a 45. didn't hit the
>	target at all! :) still, i'd always wanted to experience it. 

Shooting = something you do.
Getting shot at = something you experience.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Subject: Re: Gender assumptions
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 23:35:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.223721.29852@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> trytten@ahmeek.cps.msu.edu (Deborah Trytten) writes:
|>>
|>>
|>>Example:  I was in a computer lab last week, and I helped a woman at
|>>great length with WordPerfect.  After some time, she said, "You're the
|>>most helpful lab attendant I've ever spoken with.   Of course, you're
|>>also the only female lab attendant I've ever spoken with.  (meaningful
|>>glance)"
|>
|>Now that _is_ weird.  Most male computer lab attendants I've seen become
|>slavish to the point of slavering at the sight of a Real Live Woman.
|
|While I'm not sure exactly what slavering is (slathering?)

"Slavering" is an antique synonym of "slobbering."

"Slobbering" is an antique synonym of "drooling," which is the word I would
have used if the alliteration between "slavish" and "slavering" hadn't been
so goddamn appealing.

!Peeve: English.  Gotta love a language with a high synonym count.

>Often when I ask a man for help, he helps me by doing whatever needs to
>be done.  Maybe Sonja *showed* the woman how to do what she needed to
>do rather than just jumping in and doing it.

Yeah, I've noticed this too.  You could come up with a lot of wonderful
sociosemiopsychological explanations for it (didja see the BDI who
deconstructed the "cascade" in alt.pomo and a few zillion other
alt-groups?), but IMHO it all boils down to one blatantly obvious fact: all
men are nothing but huge walking dicks.  All we're good for is fucking;
approach us for any other sort of intercourse, at your own risk.

c
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: "What are you?"
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:26:31 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

In article <167BDE022.ELLBRUA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, ELLBRUA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Alex Elliott) writes:
|> In article <1992Mar30.173456.5686@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
|> lane@bot000.enet.dec.com (Mickey) writes:
|> >
|> >In the UK, a hundred (100) miles is a long way. In the US, a hundred (100)
|> >years is a long time.
|>  
|> Well, here on the East coast of the US, both of the above are true.
|> I tend to think of New Jersey as a really huge state because it takes
|> two hours to drive the length of the Turnpike.  Driving through Delaware
|> on I-95 only takes about fifteen or twenty minutes.  My father lives
|> in Pennsylvania and drives through Delaware every day on his way to
|> work in New Jersey.

"Here on the east coast"?  Lemme tell ya somethin', fella.  Georgia, my home
state, is the largest state east of the Mississippi, and it's on the east
coast.  It takes about 6 hours to drive it from the northern to the southern
borders.  100 miles in Georgia is not all THAT far.

Peeve: people who think that New England comprises the entire "east coast".

+------------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran (cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com)                |
|Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC  |
+------------------------------------------------------+
|The dividing line between manhood and boyhood is not  |
|merely chronological.               --Elaine Richards |
+------------------------------------------------------+
From: banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Just One Jam-jar (was Re: Lust from afar)
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:49:05 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: blagg

JMS111@jsuvm.jsu.jedu (Jenni "J." Sheehey) writes:
>I do not have an obsession.  I am not Sonja.  I am not Joy.  

Oh my.  Isn't denial one of the first danger signs?

>Peeve: People that think that if you like something, it has to excite
>you sexually.  

"Everything is sex, baby.  Absolutely everything."  -- JZ

>Do you like dogs, banta?  

Not particularly.  Flea-ridden, feces-generating furballs, if you ask
me.  What's to like?

>Do they make your loins musky?

If they know where to lick: Of course.

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"The good thing about meeting two Microsoft executives while naked is
you can shake both their hands at once."   -- Scott Griffith
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,talk.bizarre
Subject: Parsing Problems
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:16:50 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
] 
] 
] Spoiler Alert: Hit 'n' now if you haven't seen Silence Of the Lambs but
] intend to someday.


Why did I read the above as:

Spoiler Alert: Hit 'n' now if you haven't seen Silence Of the Lambs
with some one you love to eat.


ciao
drieux

ps: by the way, who IS making dinner?


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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 22:28:54 EDT
From: Sonja Kueppers <SEK@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Gender assumptions
 <1992Apr9.004601.22123@morrow.stanford.edu>

In article <1992Apr9.004601.22123@morrow.stanford.edu>, minch@lotka.stanford.edu
(Eric Minch) says:
>
>Gender? Did you say GENDER? When you actually meant SEX?
>*Objects* have gender; *people* have *SEX*!
>(And a good thing, too!)

At least here in the United States, "gender" means "sex" in the sense
of male or female, as well as referring to a grammatical class.

Peeve: People who think words have only one definition.

Peeve2: People who are language weenies like me, except in slightly
different ways.  :-)

Peeve3: Penn State administrators who think that "sex" is a term which
is inclusive of "sexual orientation."  As in, "We don't need to change
our anti-discrimination policy to include sexual orientation; it already
says we don't discriminate on the basis of sex."

AntiPeeve: That I'm going to experience people having sex in about 48
hours. ;-)

RelatedPeeve: That my primary relationship partner lives 4 hours away.

-Sonja
------
SEK@psuvm.psu.edu SEK@PSUVM.BITNET
"In particular, knowing what I do now, I wouldn't marry my second
 wife again.  The best thing we had going for us was a good sexual
 relationship, and I've since learned that it's not too hard to find
 those."                            --Walt Haas, a net.personality
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Short gals--->Tall guys
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:28:23 GMT

In <9APR199200292053@rigel.tamu.edu> rwb7054@rigel.tamu.edu (BARRETT, ROBERT WAMBLE, JR) writes:


>Peeve: Short girls(under 5'4") who go out with the guys who are 6'10"

>Why don't they look for someone a little more their size?  All the girls
>that I could ask out, of course are dating the 7-footers!!!
>Heck, that's a foot and a half difference.  They almost need a stepladder
>to kiss the guy goodnight!!!

Yeah, but she won't get her knees dirty.



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|   Michael G. Hart                   mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil    |
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|     You think _I_ speak for the government or the navy?  HAH!      |
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From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Tricky Gnosis)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Geographic areas (was Re: pocquers (was Re: Smoking Surrogat
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:46:09 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Apr6.111917.28754@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> lozanoj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU 
(Jones) writes:

>Many of those of us who are not gophers say "soda" instead of "pop".
>The difference between us and easterners is that we aren't anal 
>about things like this.


Although I still maintain that anyone who turns up his nose at Coke vs.
Pepsi, or vice versa, *is* anal.  "Sacre bleu!  Les retentives anales!"

(For the benefit of the relative newcomers in the audience, I started a
*major* flamewar in what was yet to become Peevetown by making the above
assertion a couple of years ago.  Boy howdy, did people get pissed!  It
was like I'd insulted motherhood or something.)

Personally, I tend to refer to all carbonated soft drinks as "coke," with
a small "c."  I was mystified when, as a kid, I first heard someone refer
to such beverages as "soda"; I thought he meant that he drank club soda
(blech!).  

By the bye, what's the difference between club soda and seltzer?  I used
to think they were the same thing, but I see them sold side by side, under
the same brand names.  Does seltzer have no salt, or is it Kosher, or what?

And now, turning our attention to regionalism, I'd like to state that 
the West begins at the eastern base of the Sierra Nevada (the mountains,
not the Pale Ale) and extends toward the setting sun.  Everything else is
Eastern.  So there.



Geoff


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From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Period Peeves
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:51:21 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Yup, peeve pickers, it's that time of the month again.  This time my
peeve is simply pms.  Not the paranoid, snappy, dippy-headed
pre-menstrual-syndrome which men have been gratefully using as an excuse
every time their girlfriend is upset* since the first time Eve went off
in huff when Adam farted in bed.  No, this time I mean plain,
simple, ugly, pre-menstrual SPOTS.  

26 days out of 30 I have a smooth, darkish, sallow complexion (some of
the less generous among you may be tempted into saying that my yellowish
skin is due to jaundice from prolongued abuse of my liver, but I prefer
to attribute it to last year's sun-tan)**

4 days out of 30 a sudden transformation is wrought.  My face erupts in
a sea of pus.  People around me start thinking that small-pox hasn't
been eradicated after all.  Fellow volcanologists start staring
interestedly at my face and making calculations on the backs of
envelopes involving predicted eruption times.  The paper bags I normally
put my rocks in to dry suddenly start looking attractive.  

Meanwhile, of course, my body being perverse in the extreme, my
randiness rating soars to hitherto unknown heights.  This leads to
rather accentuated maps of Australia appearing on the sheets overnight.

*eg.  "She doesn't normally act like this when I stick my tongue down
some strange woman's throat at a disco.  She must have pms" (because BOYS
can't possibly conceive that it could be THEIR behaviour that is
jeapardising the relationship.  Must be something wrong with the GIRL
that's it).

**  Which I did not, incidentally, acquire in Scotland since this has a
statistical likelihood of 0.00

Babs

ObCastrationTool;  Burn 'em off with the current Etna lava-flow. 
Eruption temperature at vent approx 1100 degrees celcius.  That should
do it.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: rick@igor.tamri.com (Rick Gordon)
Subject: The Beast From 20,000 Fjords
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Summary: I knew this would happen, eventually
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, San Francisco
Disclaimer: Ob
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:18:26 GMT

In article <STEINAR.92Apr16150345@faust.solan.unit.no> the Entity which
looks like Cindy Kandolf but speaks with the voice of TellySavalasAfter-
GarglingWithCarbolicAcid growls:

>Oh, and by the way:
>Rick Gordon writes:
>>Since Norway hasn't yet turned into a lake of seething antiprotons we
>>can assume you still haven't made corporeal contact with the Flodnak.
>
>I _am_ the flodnak.

It all makes sense.  Ever wonder:  Why Dan Rather *never* mentions any
current events in Norway?  Why no Pope since Pius XII has been seen
in Norway?  What happened to all the heavy water from Norsk Hydro
after the Germans left?

And now this: total personality transference.  We're way beyond "The
Exorcist" level of hysteria here.  The horror! 

>Coo coo catchoo.

When the head starts doing 360's and spewing green bile I'm outta
here.

>-Cindy Kandolf

-- 
Rick Gordon          | "Often in error, never in doubt." 
rick@igor.tamri.com  |   -- Universal Marketing Department motto
From: tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Iain M.^H^H Banks (was Re: Russ is Everywhere)
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:22:17 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Colouring Book Software

In article <ku72tfINN218@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
>In article <31236@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg) writes:

>>!Peeve: You can tell his science fiction from his Real Literature
>>since in his sci-fi he writes under the rather transparant nom de
>>plume of Iain M. Banks. I've read most of his sci-fi and it's pretty
>>good, but his literary talent is wasted on that genre. It's true
>>that when someone who cut his teeth on Real Literature (The Wasp
>>Factory, The Bridge etc.) goes and starts competing with sci-fi
>>writers he has the advantage of the one-eyed man in the kingdom of the
>>blind, but since he can write real books, he should.

I met Banks at a book signing in Edinburgh last week where he signed my
copy of "The Crow Road" and gave himself the title of Rector-In-Waiting
(Mail me for an explanation if you must). Anyway "Crow Road" marks a
return to his earlier style but in a lighter vein. After "Canal Dreams"
that is a real blessing. 

!Peeve: I'm not living in Edinburgh anymore and the chances of meeting a
famours writer in my new home are minimal. Hell the chance of meeting
someone who can write are pretty slim.N

>Peeve2: People who use the word "sci-fi."  I hate to denigrate, but nobody

Banks used it when I spoke to him. He prnounces it as "skiffy" which I
rather like.
T

"Happiness is England in your rearview mirror"







-- 
Tony Cunningham, Edinburgh University Computing Service. tjc@ed.ac.uk

Inspiration, move me brightly, light the song with sense and colour, hold
away despair. More than this I will not ask faced with mysteries dark and vast.
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: PREscriptions, subsiDIARY...
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:00:01 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (poultry in motion) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> Unless they end in a vowel sound and proceed a word that begins in
> a vowel sound: "Peetzer iz my favorite dish."
>
> Same thing on Airstrip One.

Now just hold on there one second - remember that this little lump of rock
you so affectionately refer to as Airstrip One has got a quite phenomenal
number of different accents. The "peetzer" effect is restricted largely to
those areas that speak BBC English, or the dialects that were the root of
BBC English. Of the two accents with which I am most familiar, the folk
around here would pronounce it "peet-zuh" and the folk in Humberside would
pronounce it "peet-zeh" (that being an area where "Mars Bar" is pronounced
"mazba").

ObPeeve: chip shop pizza. The stuff should be outlawed under the Geneva
convention. You'd *have* to be drunk to want to eat it.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
 "Isn't it nice/Sugar and spice/Luring disco sheepdogs/To a life of vice."
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: For The GeologicallyImpared
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:31:32 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

lane@bot000.enet.dec.com (Mickey) writes:
] 
] In the UK, a hundred (100) miles is a long way. In the US, a hundred (100)
] years is a long time. With the possible exception of the Indians, everybody
] in the US is from somewhere else. 

Can You say, "land bridge" to Asia????

thought You could!!!!

Can You say, Hey, not all the aleutes are from the
GodFearingAllAmerican side of the Bering Sea...

Can You say that Not All Native Americans LIKED Seal Meat and Blubber
and some were willing to keep on wandering????

Can You say, PlanetEarth, where EVERYBODY is somebody's excuse
for not living where they did before!!!!

ciao
drieux


ps: there is something about 'Chinese_Mexican' food that makes
me want to rampage across the steepes and sack the remenants
of the decadent roman empire.....


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