From: mohanram@wsl.dec.com (Narayan Mohanram)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Obscene not from DPEREIRA
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:09:16 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Distribution: world
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Mr/Ms. Clean (Dpereira) slipped a little when wrote me an obscene note
which i have included below. Future flames from mr/ms dpereira or
others will be ignored as usual..

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Date: 08 Jan 1993 11:41:03 -0500 (EST)
From: "DYLAN C. PEREIRA" <DPEREIRA@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU>
Subject: Re: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
To: mohanram@umiami.IR.Miami.EDU
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>From: mohanram@wsl.dec.com (Narayan Mohanram)
>Subject:Re: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
>Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:49:13 GMT
>Message-ID:<1icl79INNhs1@usenet.pa.dec.com>

>In article <1993Jan3.135844.14273@umiami.ir.miami.edu>, dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
>|> After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
>|> to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
>|> copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
>|> action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 
>|> will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
>
>Who died and left this "DPEREIRA" (or whaterver your his/her real name is)
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It's interesting that with a name like NARAYAN MOHANRAM, you find a name like
D. PEREIRA hard to believe!

Listen asshole, I'm touched by your quest for knowledge - actually I'm tempted
to say your father died and left me in charge - but then this reply will be
just as offensive as some of the other filth on the newsgroup.  So I won't say
it... just yet.  Read on.


>the police for the usenet. Looks like DPEREIRA decided for the rest of us
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that a specific posting is obscene. Do what the rest of do DPEREIRA, 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You impotent prick, if you take the time to get your ass of that pedestal of
righteousness you're keeping warm and actually read some of the muck that
whipped up this frenzy in the first place, you may not be so quick to shoot
off your mouth.  Besides, there are several readers out there who find this
pretty offensive too.  Open your eyes moron!

>	1. get a life
           ^^^^^^^^^^

It's shitheads like you who come from the backwoods of India, worm their way
to the West and suddenly become champions of the Bill of Rights!!  Get a 
little more involved before you tell someone else to "get a life," will ya!!


>	2. use your 'n' key when you don't want to read somebodys posting.
>

Oooooh!  I'm so impressed with your extensive keyboard skills!  You don't
suppose I could use KILL FILES, do you??

>If some idiot like DPEREIRA can manange to try to suppress posters (which
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      
>you cannot do in this country) with some bogus lies about criminal proceedings
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"..which you cannot do in this country" --  Hah!  You maggot, just because you
are on an H1/have a green card/finally made citizenship, don't forget your
measly roots!  WHO MADE YOU ADVOCATE OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT!  Besides, aren't 
you trying to suppress MY posting...

>I will set up a posting location, where people can post articles.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I strongly encourage you to do this where such mixed-up jokers like you can
communicate FREELY without the threat of censorship despots like me!!

>I don't personally read any articles posted by these people mentioned, nor
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Does that mean someone else reads them for you!  Read them first! 


>do I know them. But i will fight for thier right to the usenet access.
>DPEREIRA a newcomer to the usenet no doubt does not realise that there is
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>a specific amendment to the constitution of this country to permit free speech.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I feel so humble in your worthy presence, O WISE ONE WHO CAME TO THE U.S. FROM
INDIAN BACKWOODS KISSED ASS FOR SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE GETTING A JOB AT DEC AND
NOW IS THE PROTECTOR OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT!!  You know, the First Amendment
protects people's right to free expression.  The more obvious aspects of that
aren't written down in paper i.e. while your expression is protected, have the
basic common sense and deceny not to offend people around you WHEN THERE'S
NO REASON TO DO SO!  Read the postings and see if they make sense to you.

Now obviously this reply of mine has been offensive and hurtful to your
colossal ego.  Maybe it will be an excuse for you to reflect on what has been
said all this time by me and others.  No one says you can't express yourself
freely, but then decency and sensitivity are taught and learned, not easily
given away like the right of free expression.  It seems that having been raised
in the backwoods of India, you missed out on some of these things - so I don't
hold it against you!

The right to free speech and expression is not to be wasted and abused like has
been done on sci off late.  You earn it, and are responsible for it. You really
are a sorry excuse for an Indian when you start pontificating about the rights
and laws of this great country!

>Narayan
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Narayan Mohanram
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