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From: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: RE: ARMOR ALL VS. STP
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:10:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 

-> Has anyone compared NO Touch to Tire Foam.  I think that the
-> Tire Foam works better, but does it have the same drying affect as
-> regular Armor All?

  I haven't used the Armor Tire Foam, but have used NO Touch and the STP
Tire stuff.  The problem with NO Touch is that the shine doesn't last
long and it easily dulls when it gets wet.  The STP stuff is alot
shinier and lasts much longer.


Erich Lim
erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us
                                                                           
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From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: Re: Door Horror
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:17:32 GMT

sborders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Borders) writes:

>Tell me, why are others "assholes" for parking within the lines?  I

I never said any such thing.  I stated that people were butholes for
INTENTIONALY putting forth effort for the sole purpose of pissing
someone else off without taken any time to observe the situation and
realize they may have a reason for what they are doing.  In the same
context, I would not be annoyed by someone cramming their car in close
quarters to mine (but not actually against mine) when the lot was full
and they were left with little choice.  I for one, actually look at the
situation before deciding that the person is a jerk or not.

>cannot count the number of times that inconsiderate drivers have taken
>more than one space in an already crowded lot. 

I also stated that I went out of my way to be considerate to other
people by choosing a space far in the back of the lot leaving the many
more convienient spaces available for those who fit in them properly.

> I used to drive a "boat",
>too, but I have *never* been in a lot where I had to take more than
>the space alotted between the stripes.

Then I would suspect that your boat is either smaller than mine or you
live in a town with larger parking spaces.  My car is 25 feet long, the
standard length for a parking space according to a civil engineer friend
of mine is 20 feet.  This leaves 5 feet of my car hanging out in the
isle.  I think you can see that a 5 foot reduction in isle width would
make it very difficult for many vehicles to pass by.

>As for your assertion that drivers of compact cars somehow deserve to
>be dinged/scratched/dented/keyed for parking properly between the lines,
>but with the misfortune to be parked next to a space-hogging idiot:
>bullshit. 

This is a blatant twist of my words to aid your own purpose.  My first
statement was...
"Vandelism is immature no matter what the circumstances"
No ones car deserves to be dinged/scratched/dented/keyed for any reason
and no ones car deserves to have their bumper dented/scratched/dinged/
as mine has been by people who fell it is ok to be rude simply because I
drive a large car.  I go out of my way to be considerate understanding
that my car is oversized and I think it not unreasonable that others be
a little considerate in return and not park their car with their bumber
right against mine just to piss me off.  Sometimes I honestly believe
people do this out of jealousy for the big expensive luxury cars.

Also, whenever my wife is getting stuff in or out of the back seat in a
parking lot I place my hand over the edge of the door that might get
pushed into the next car so that my hand gets hit by the door rather
than the next car.  I do this to protect my own car more than the one
next to me but it benefits everyone involved.

Jim
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From: mvelasco@fraser.sfu.ca (Matthew Velasco)
Subject: Re: Why a Mercedes Benz 600SEL?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:55:54 GMT

<WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Hello.
>I am just curious as to what advantages the 1992 Mercedes Benz 600SEL
> has over the very similar (except the 12 cylinder engine) Mercedes Benz
> 500SEL?  What makes the 600SEL $35,000+ more than the 500SEL?  It can't
> possibly just be the bigger engine.  Heck, if someone wanted a 12 cylinder
> car they could look to the BMW 850i, 750iL and the Jag XJS models for a lot
> less money.

Yes. Status is one of the probable reasons but with an extra $35,000 lying
around why not.  There sheer experience of driving a V12 mammoth! Think of 
that!  But if I have the money... well I would be contented with a 500SEL.
Hey, even 300SEL would turn heads already right?

True CD??? voted in favor of the 750iL for its fun to drive, price, and
performance.  I would also be fine with a 750iL.
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GMs plan: New Credit Card (MC, then possibly VISA)
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:15:41 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems


Is there a ceiling on the amount you can accrue toward a car purchase?

If I charge, say, $100,000 a year, would they really give me $5000 off?

	Dave
From: hcs@adpgate.UUCP (Howard Schultz)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Sho don't have problems..
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:14:11 GMT
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR


What's with this rotor recall for SHO's, i have not heard about this one???


if someone has more info i would like to have it.
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From: gregc@rajeesh.WPI.EDU (Gregory M Charland)
Subject: 4x4 Lifts (Again)
Followup-To: gregc@wpi.wpi.edu
Summary: Asking about Toyota lift kits and MA lift laws
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:49:27 GMT

     Hi!  I've got an '84 Toyota 4Runner (leaf-springs up front) and there
are still a few things I'd like to do/know.  I've been starting to [seriously]
look at lift kits, and need some advice.  I live in Massachusetts, but the
"New England Winters" of late have been highly over-rated.  We've had an
average of about one decent storm per winter.

     What I'm looking for:
          - 2-3" suspension lift
          - major brand, all components incl.
          - something I (not a mechanic myself) can install
          - new shocks (100,000 mi. on the original 8-yr-old ones!)

     Then, if anyone feels REALLY helpful, I'd like to know what kind of
wheels/tires you run on your truck, and how you like them.  I'm looking for
a 30 or 31 inch tire that'll do well on-and-off-road.  So far, I'm considering
Firestone ATX and BF-Goodrich All-Terrains.

*     Final request to Massachusetts people:
           According to the magazines I've read, Mass. only allows about 2.3"
of lift on a Toy.  I KNOW I've seen them lifted more than that around here
(in Worcester).  How do they do it?  I ask this because a friend of mine said
an inspector checked his door height because of 31" tires.  Any experiences/
problems with the LAW?

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     ---------------------------------------------
From: yhcrana@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Karl Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee pricing
Keywords: Jeep SUV Utility vehicle
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:52:48 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon

kparker@javelin.sim.es.com (Kevin Parker) writes:

>Does anyone have the Jeep Grand Cherokee pricing (Sticker and Invoice)
>for Base, Laredo and Limited models?  I looked for some info this weekend after
>seeing a AWESOME green with Gold accent/trim, V8 Limited this weekend.  Is 
>the Limited worth the extra money?  (Nice tan leather interior looked great!)

>Any info or sources of info would be appreciated,
>Kevin Parker

I don't know how much these guys cost in the US, but after talking to
some people from Switzerland, I discovered that Jeep Cherokees, used,
can fetch around $46-48,000 US in Europe.  Sheesh!

Karl Brown

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From: jsj@ravl.rice.edu (Jeffrey Spence Jeffress)
Subject: Re: Passive or Attack Belts
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:30:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.144700.7031@en.ecn.purdue.edu> kwan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Yik-Yin Edwin Kwan) writes:
>I just have the driver side motorized seatbelt on my Probe replaced,
>because it got stuck halfway between the A and B pillars the other day.
>The mechanic said the moving buckle, the track and the motor are 
>manufactured as 1 assembly, and cannot be taken apart.
>
>I spent $487 for the whole thing!  Arrrgh ...

	Don't most manufacturers include lifetime warranties on 
the seatbelt. I know when I was shopping for a car Mazda, Nissan,
Toyota and Saturn all had lifetime warranties on the belt and 
any mechanism associated with it.

>
>Edwin Kwan
>

Later
Jeff Jeffress
jsj@lgc.com
jsj@comet.rice.edu


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From: orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr)
Subject: Re: What's a DOD number ?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:50:14 GMT

In article <BOWERS.92Sep4124345@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.175428.695@spdc.ti.com> orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr) writes:
>
>>     We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you !!! Look to
>>rec.motorcycles for possible clues.....
>
>Uh oh.  Looks like there's gonna be a DoD for rec.autos next.  :-)
>
>That's cool.  Can I play?

     Nope no chance, no way. You all will have to form you own--- umm whatever
the DOD tries to be or not be. 


     "86 Ninja 600R"                               K.O.
  "DOD #306 AMA #615088"                       T.I. Dallas Tx.
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From: geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning)
Subject: Re: Door Horror
Organization: Interrupt Technology Corporation, Manhattan Beach, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 10:03:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.151303.17377@hubcap.clemson.edu>
jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:

> There are several
> parking lots I go to where my car simply does not fit in one parking
> space.

I can sympathize with this.  There is a mall nearby where some idiot
architect put support poles so near each other that even three
subcompact cars have trouble fitting between them.  Yet the
greedbuckets who built the place (who are now bankrupt, BTW, *yay*)
insisted on painting three places in those narrow spots.  I don't
drive a Caddy (Mitsu Eclipse for me), yet the only I can park politely
is to let my passenger out and scrape the pole.  I pity the big cars,
vans, and 4-wheelers, because as far as I can tell there's no place at
all for them to park.

The "compact" parking space might be a good idea, but a lot of
places have gotten just a teeny bit carried away.  What's a big car to
do at Christmas when there's only one place left, and it's labeled
"compact"?  Drive around for another 20 minutes?
-- 
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From: toddwall@rock.concert.net (Todd R Wall -- Catholic Diocese of Raleigh -- Computer Services)
Subject: Radio picks up noise from car
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:26:59 GMT

	About 8 months ago my computer died in my '89 Beretta and I had
it replaced.  Before my computer died I had really good reception on the
AM freqs. on my radio.  Now I get A-LOT of noise on my radio.  When
I mash on the accelerator there is a very anoying fast crackling sound 
and it will not go away until I take my foot off of the accelerator.  Then
it's clear until I hit the accelerator.

	Is there any type of connection that needs to be made when installing
a computer in a car in order to shield it from the radio???  If not, any 
suggestions  on what I can do to fix this problem???

	Any info will be greatly appreciated.

	Thanks..


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From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter)
Subject: Re: Need Help on FUEL ADDITIVES
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 20:51:00 GMT

>Fuel Additives:

>1. Do they really work ?             

From what I gather from the net (and a bit of experience), there
are only two or three that do any good.

>   A mechanic suggested I get the "STP" brand and when I was in the store
>   counter ready to pay for this, I was told that this is a crappy product
>   and suggested "SI-1" (or SI1) ....

That is one of the good ones: Redline SI-1.  Another is Techron.

There are one or two more, but additives other than these, I've
heard, are no good.

Mike
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From: ccheng@mips.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 93 Honda line up
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:28:01 GMT
Reply-To: yhmok@mips.com
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: wildcat_111.mti.sgi.com

Hi
	I just visited a Honda dealer yesterday and saw a leaflet about the max
load and stopping distances of the 1993 honda line up.

	Here is what I found.
	
	There are a few new models
	
	1) Civic Del Sol S/Si
	2) Accord 2/4dr SE
	3) Civic 2Dr coupe DX/EX
	4) Prelude VTEC!!
	
	Does any know when these cars are comming?  The dealer didn't gave me
any info.  I'm particalar interested in the Prelude.  Wonder how much and is it
the same as the Prelude Si VTEC they sell in Japan.

	Shark at SGI
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From: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Subject: Re: Door Horror (read . . . Parking Spaces!)
Reply-To: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:28:03 GMT

Why don't we set up a new group . . . rec.autos.parking_spaces or
rec.autos.geometry_lessons or 

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From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Sho has enuff problems...
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:45:01 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <10208.74.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us> david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) writes:
> but have you had major mechanical problems as well 

	At 50Kmiles, I've 

	replaced front engine mounts (17K) - "must be your driving"
	replaced subframe mounts (22K)	- "gee, these don't usually go"
	replaced clutch (35K) - this failed but I knew about the recall
	had broken weld in front end repaired (36K)
	replaced cam sensor (36K)
	replaced those shitty Goodyear tires which were _bald_ by 25K
	replaced front rotors - I also knew about _this_ recall
	

	Actually, though, the car's been pretty good.  Only the clutch
failure was of the break-down-in-small-town-on-Sunday kind of thing, and
I just drove to the Ford dealer without the clutch .  It's too bad that
the '89s had that useless 12K warranty, or almost everything would've been
covered.

	Hell, by the time I'd put 50K on that thrice-damned Saab I used
to drive I'd already had the doors fall off, the seats catch on fire, the
fancy vacuum system stop sucking three or four times, gone through 3 
ventilation fans, done a complete new-rotors-pads-and-cylinders brake job, and
had the thing fill up with 6 inches of water during a rainstorm 'cause the 
grommet sealing the hole where the accelerator cable passed through fell out.

	Maybe next time I'll buy a Honda...
									wr
From: sysmatt@aix3090b.uky.edu (Matt Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: removing bumper stickers
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:37:29 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

If the bumper stickers are vinyl, as most are these days, they should come
off with a little heat. If you've got a hair-dryer, try heating them up and
peeling off. Another option is hot water. I just recently tried to remove
a 4-year-old sticker which did not want to come off. I poured a kettle
of boiling water on it, and it peeled right off.
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: Door Horror
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:09:42 GMT


In article <jimf.716067798@centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>>In article <ILH.92Sep9095500@winnie-the-pooh.lcs.mit.edu> ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington) writes:
>>>That reminds me.  The parking lot at my old high school had their
>>>lines repainted from perpendicular to angled.  The idiot painting them
>>>did not realize that by angling the lines the spaces got narrower.
>>>They were ridiculously narrow.  There's one person who did not get
>>>much out of math/geometry class!
>
>>If the new spaces were ridiculously narrow, then it was entirely the
>>painter's fault and had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that the
>>spaces were rotated.
>
>He didn't say the spaces were rotated, he said they lines were painted
>at an angle.  I assume that the endpoints of the lines were the same
	       ^^^^^^^^
>as they were when they were perpendicular.

Yes, but is that assumption valid?

My assumption is that one of the endpoints changed, and that the width was
therefore allowed to remain constant. Is your assumption any more valid
than mine? I think not. Original poster, please jump back in with this
data so we can settle this discussion. Thank you!
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GMs plan: New Credit Card (MC, then possibly VISA)
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:33:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep11.134209.21625@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com (kevin.jessup) writes:
>In <1992Sep11.033813.11459%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu> mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter) writes:
>
>
>>>There is a maximum credit of $500 per year for a maximum of 7 years.
>>>According to Today's WSJ, you can also get extra rebates with purchases
>>>at MCI, Avis, Marriot, and some other companies.  (The story is on page B6.)
>
>
>>Yeah, but is the $3500 off of list (which I suspect), or after your best
>>deal?
>
>>Mike
>
>Exactly my question.  Mike hit the nail right on the head here!
>
>Say I make my best deal.  The dealer is ready for me to sign the contract.
>Then I say, "Oh, by the way...I've got this GM credit card here..."
>
>I bet the deal is off then!!!

  I think the 5% cash earned is a rebate; whatever deal you make with the
dealer holds.   Also I don't know if Saturn is considered part of this
credit card deal.

  I also heard that they are sending out 30 million pre-approved cards!

  Doug
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From: sborders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Borders)
Subject: Re: Bugs (and Bras)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 02:40:45 GMT

colombo@bronco.fnal.gov writes:

>In article <Bu61y4.Hr7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Sc
tt Coleman) writes:
>> kcreta@sedona.intel.com (Kenneth Creta) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> In a similar vein, how effective are bras at preventing kamikaze insec
s?
>> My car is a very bright shade of red (Arrest-Me Red ;-) and for some r
ason
>> it attracts bugs even when standing still (I'm not kidding - I parked 
he
>> car yesterday afternoon planning to do some routine maintenance, and b
tween
>> the time I had parked it and the time I got out to go open the hood, t
o
>> bees had appeared out of nowhere are were checking out the front end. 
ithin
>> a couple minutes, there were at least half a dozen of the little buzze
s
>> flitting around. Made working in the engine bay an interesting experie
ce,
>> since they kept buzzing my head ;-/ )
>> 

>The best that I can figure is that the bees are attracted to the smells
>(pollen?) that you accumulate on your car while driving, not the color.
>(Mine is white.)  I spray the front with Raid before I open the hood.

>Does anyone else have another theory?

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Bees *are* attracted to color, as several nature shows that I have
watched demonstated.  "Arrest-me red" (or "Write-me-a-ticket- red", as
I call it) evidently brings 'em runnin'.  And not just bees . . . I
have had many insects (especially bees) attracted to my new bright red
Laser; this never occured with my dark sort-of-burgundy-colored VW
Jetta.

                                      Scott
Organization: Valencia University (Universitat de Valencia)   SPAIN
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 14:43:41 EST
From: Rogelio Montanana <MONTANAN@EVALUN11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Swedish prices of Volvo child accesories

I have a Volvo 740 and am intereted in buying two Volovo child accesories
for this car, the baby chair (appropriate for childs 0-4 years old), and
the child seat with backrest (appropriate for childs 4-9 years old).

I live in Spain and have asked the local VOlov dealers about those accesories,
but the prices seem too high to me. I plan to go to Sweden in a few days
and am considering buying them there if the price is lower.

The best prices that I have got here are 1850 SEK (plus 15% taxes) for the baby
chair and 1080 (plus 15% taxes) for the child seat with backrest.

Could somebody tell me the price of those accesories in Sweden?
Thank you very much.

Rogelio Montanana, System Analyst             Tel:(346)3864310 Fax:(346)3864200
Valencia Univ. Computer Center                     Bitnet: montanan at evalun11
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46100 Burjassot                   Hepnet: evalun::montanan (or 16530::montanan)
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