From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Proposal for a rec.arts.anime split
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:22:37 GMT
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In article <1993Jan12.163520.19675@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage) writes:
>In article <1itaucINN68p@sumax.seattleu.edu> kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo) writes:
>>> 	Any follow-ups to postings in rec.arts.anime.info will
>>> 	be sent to the regular rec.arts.anime newsgroup.
>>agree 100%
>>but to the new r.a.a.misc 
>Why bother renaming the r.a.a. group?  That will cause MULTI-headaches for
>eveyone.

doing the rename now will save all the trouble from doing the rename LATER
when another split is needed because the current split proposal solve
NONE of the problem people complaint about r.a.a.  with a .misc group
you can be flexible and add as many groups as you want later.

>>r.a.a.marketplace
>>buy, sell, trade, product announcement, con announcement, 
>>(consider how polarised the last two can be, r.a.a.info shall be unbiased, 
>>and thus above it)
>I doubt it would get enough traffic to be worth it.

do you think which will get more traffic, .info or .marketplace?
like I say before, you can not avoid biase in both the last cases, 
Usenet is not suppose to be the advertising net for people's profit
gain, if any computer company dare to even cross the line whoever
account might be taking away from him, (technical support is ok), we
bent over backward for the anime company because there is so few of them
and the fans need them.  but to list them under .info is as illigal 
to the net as putting script under them.
as to the con, the latest con-war more than justified moving them out of
.info

>>r.a.a.creative
>>fanfic
>>It need its place, and it is high cost, to make it in the same group as
>>the old r.a.a. does not solve the old problem. 
>Again, there jsut isn't enough of it to justify the newsgroup.  Sure, once

not enough?  if a group is created I bet over a period of one year 
(not day by day) it will have comparable post compare to .info, it will
not only be used for the finished products, but discussions during the 
creation process will also go there.

ignore them and keep them in the same old group, like I say, do not 
solve the problem.

>files can kill fanfiction if they don't want to read it.  It won't help every-
>one, but it will help a little.

not everyone on unix know how, not everyone is on unix, and think about the 
poor people on mail list.....

>>r.a.a.misc
>>the old r.a.a. shall be rmgroup and replace by this.
>>I heistant to include r.a.a.advocacy, because then there will be nothing  
>>in r.a.a.misc :)
>Why?  Like I said, it would cause a LOT of headaches.

read above.

the problem with the current proposal is that by taking the relative good
stuffs out of the whole bunch of noize, you still got a newsgroup full
with a bunch of noize, it did not solve the problem at all, .info
is the cheapest way out for the short term, but not in the long run, 
eventually, something like rec.arts.startrek.* would be 
required, why not do it right the first time?  the sub-group's traffic
might be low in the beginning, but we all know that it will pick up
later,  compare to all the comp, bit, list groups I got that NEVER got
a message even since their creation, those sub-groups make more sense.
 
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