From: punk@Bogus.COM (Jack C. Royce)
Newsgroups: alt.flame,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: I'm not your man...
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:02:49 GMT
Organization: Bogus.COM -- Public Access Network Services

skaven@milton.u.washington.edu (William Gilliland) writes:

> There is a statistic (I dont have the exact number) that if current rates of
> growth are maintained by the year 5000 there will be on the order of 1 Billio
> human beings per square yard of land on Earth.  Obviously, this is not possib
> The growth is going to have to stop.  And how does growth stop?  There are tw
> methods: Increasing the death rate, or decreasing the birth rate.  Given mode
> medicine's attitude towards death (i.e. prevent it) the former is not likely.
> Therefore the latter must be the method.  

You are short sighted.  You actually think that by the year 5000 that we will
not have already long mastered intersteller travel, and have colonized the
entire solar system.  Cripes, the universe is the limit.  And if it is infinite
there will never be a need for everyone to turn gay will there?

I think that technology can keep up with the population growth.  It may be a
close race for 20-50 years, but by that time, we will be all over space...

Assuming that faster than light travel is indeed possible, we will master this
and then be able to colonize other planets in other star systems.

Hell, I want off this rock just as bad as the next guy.

You really think your swift don't you?  Genocide or homosexuality for all...

Maybe one of your neighborhood net.terrorists would supply you with some nukes
to eliminate 3/4 of the worlds population to prove your point?

> Decreaseing the birth rate can be approached by a number of methods.  In the
> light of population growth, encouraging MOTSS relationships would serve to 
> slow the rate of births.  (Note that I did not say it would work... for examp
> it would meet vehement opposition from the usual proponent of population
> growth -- the Vatican.)  

And you obviously have a problem with this.  Shit, let everyone choose their
own paths.   You don't need to force this on everyone.

> Your suggestion to improve food distribution is counter-productive.  By 
> increasing the food supply, you increase the number of people that can be
> supported, which increases the demand on the food supply.  Historically,
> the rate of food production has been linear while the rate of population
> growth has been exponential.  It is a mathematical theory that, given enough
> time, _exponential growth will always outstrip linear growth_.  

Bullshit, it can work.  You just don't want it too.  I am sure thats what
all of the experts said when the population was less than a million people
on earth.  It will never work when we have 10 million...

Damn it, we are not limited to just the surface of the earth.  Innovation will
prevail, and solve the problem...

> Am I being pessimistic?  No, I'm being realistic.  I think that encouraging
> people to vent their sexual desires/energies in same-sex relationships would
> be a lot better than China's method of population growth (forced abortions) o
> the methods over which we will have no control (starvation, mass plague as
> population exceeds medicine, resource wars, ecological collapse due to humans
> devastating the natrial web of life.)  The end of growth WILL OCCUR.  And if
> we act now, we can have a say in how it ends.  People who summarily reject
> reasonable, humane methods on the basis of personal prejuidices are part of t
> problem, not part of the soltion.

I will NEVER turn gay for your reasons there bub.  Give up, I refuse to
conform!   I don't think YOU are being all that realistic.

Sure, the problems are very bad, but they will never get solved if you "give
up and turn gay".   I think that you are using the global problems as a
rationale for homosexuality.

The only rationale for that is personal preference.  If thats what you like,
fine with it.  But don't expect me to bend over so you can stick your infected
cock up my butt.  I'll have no part of that.

> "Stranger things have happened."          | (with apologies to Negativland)
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

When the entire world goes gay, that statement will no longer hold water.


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