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From: mhiri01@mik.uky.edu (Manjunath Hiriyannaiah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: PRAVEEN AMRE
Date: 15 Nov 1992 16:08:38 -0600
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          The third day's play really belongs to Amre for his wonderful knock
with the tailenders under trying circumstances.I don't know how much More,
Srinath and Kumble scored, but important thing is India got vital first
innings lead.
          Now it's the time for our spinners to lift the game for India on a
turning track.The important thing India needs in the second innings is, early
breakthroughs, well it depend on our medium pacers.But our bowlers always
bowl well and the problem is with our batsmen.Let's hope our batsmen play
with determination this time and give Azhar a maiden victory in the first test
of the Series.
                 GOOD LUCK FOR AZHAR & CO.
 
Manjunath H
From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: NZ in SL
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:00:34 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Nov17.204538.16656@ncar.ucar.edu>, amanning@acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
> In article <9211161202.AA08500@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>>NZ team in Sri Lanka.
>>
>>    NZ team is now in Sri Lanka and there is a scare today. There was a bomb
>>explosion in Colombo which killed a naval commander. 
> 
> Didn't a very similar thing happen the last time NZ toured Sri Lanka? Maybe
> they don't like Kiwis?
> 

Exactly my thoughts.  Trying to blow up one's opposition must be the very
highest compliment one could pay them (and we don't even have Hadlee this
time!).

Latest news reports are that the New Zealand team is split on whether or
not to continue the tour with most of the married team members (with the
exception of Crowe and Jones and possibly a few others) wanting to come
home to Mummy and most of the single players voting to stay.  Coach Warren
Lees is very much in the former camp.

A few reports have drawn a comparision with the New Zealand Netball team's
decision to stay on in Britain after IRA bomb threats, suggesting that the
netballs have a little more intestinal fortitude than our cricketers!
Personal opinion will no doubt dictate how one responds to such parallels,
but all I can say is that I hope we never have to fight another war if
the current controversy is an accurate measure of the nation's courage.

Looking forward to politically correct flames.

Richard.
From: pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: India vs SA Invitation IX, India 21/3
Date: 20 Nov 1992 03:39:51 -0600
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India in all sorts of trouble at 21/3. Raman(7) was caught by Kuiper
at second slip off Corrie van Zyl when the score was 17. Then Raman(7)
got an edge to a Snell outswinger and was caught by the keeper Padat
(who I have never heard of).

Manjrekar(2) and Amre(0) is in at bat.

I'll update the teams in a while, but this is what I could figure out
thus far: 

SA Invitation IX
Munshi,Yachad,Rushmere,Davids,Wilkinson,Van Zyl,Matthews,Snell,McHelm,Kuiper,
Padat (sp?)

India
Shastri(2), Jadeja(7), Raman(7), Manjrekar(2), Amre(0), Prabhakar,
Kumble, Raju

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From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Cricket Quiz
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:45:27 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Nov23.231243.20032@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ramprasa@cn.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
>|> 
>|> 	In the first innings of a test match, only two balls have
>|> 	been bowled by a bowler and the score board shows a total
>|> 	of 12 runs with no extras. (No no-balls, no wides, etc.)
>|> 	Both the batsmen have scored 6 runs apiece.
>|> 	
>|> 	Good luck
>|> 
>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>well, Fredericks hit wkt. Lillee? 6
>at Lords
>in 1975 gives a clue.
>Of course batsman 1. hit the ball for a 6 and fell on his wkt.
>Batsman 2 came in and also scored a six.
>elementary , 

	Absolutely unelementary. Perhaps you forget that Roy Fredericks
	was out for a duck. Because he fell on the wicket no runs can
	be granted to him.

	One of the ways this can happen was mentioned in an earlier post
	-- about ball hitting helmet etcc. But again these would be sundries

	This can happen many ways --)
	
	(a) Batsmen run 3 with one run short, there is an overthrow for 4
	    runs. The next ball is hit for a six. 
	(b) Batsmen run 7 with 1 short. Next ball hit for a six. etc....

	There are innumerable combinations which would work.

	Cheers

	Shivanand Bhajekar
>
From: B536HIND@UTARLVM1.UTA.EDU (C. S. Sudarshana bhat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Zeroing in on Gavaskar
Date: 18 Nov 1992 13:45:16 -0600
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This is a list of Gavaskar's zeroes (and I take this opportunity to add
that I was wrong when, in my last rsc.post, I wrote that Gavaskar was
out to the first ball of the 1982-83 Kingston Test :-( ).

India's First Innings:
---------------------
1974 vs. England: c Knott b Arnold 0 (Birmingham)
1976-77 vs. England: c Old b Willis 0 (Calcutta)
1977-78 vs. Australia: c Rixon b Thomson 0 (Melbourne)
1978-79 vs. West Indies: c Shivnaraine b Sylvester Clarke 0 (Bangalore)
1980-81 vs. Australia: c Marsh b Lillee 0 (Sydney)
1983-84 vs. West Indies: c Dujon b Marshall 0 (Kanpur)
1983-84 vs. West Indies: c Dujon b Marshall 0 (Calcutta)
1987 vs. Pakistan: c Miandad b Imran 0 (Jaipur)

So there, we have eight ducks to choose from.  Two criteria have to be met:
a) India batted before the opponent
b) Gavaskar was out first ball

Now, for good measure, (and since a list of Gavaskar's knock(out)s is
all I have with me) I might as well round off the list of his 0's ;-).

India's Second Innings:
----------------------
1971 vs. England: lbw Snow 0 (Oval)
1974-75 vs. West Indies: c Derryk (sp.?) Murray b Boyce 0 (Bangalore)
1982-83 vs. West Indies: b Holding 0 (Kingston)
1985-86 vs. Sri Lanka: c De Mel b R. Ratnayake 0 (Colombo)
----------------------------------------------------------
Ready to eat some more humble pie ;-)
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From: mukerjee@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Radha Mookerjee)
Subject: Cricket quiz response
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:24:17 GMT

How about this?
The first batsmen hits a six, but retires injured (say, pulled
muscle) immediately afterwards.
The next batsmen enters and scores a six. The match ends.



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From: raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: Azhar and 100's and victories
Organization: DA&MRL, Engineering, UWO, London Ont. CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:50:16 GMT

In article <921119160844.4522@charlie.usd.edu>, SHARIQ@charlie.usd.edu writes:
|> India has never womn a match in which Azhar has scored a hundred.I am pretty
|> sure of that.
|> 
|> Shariq

So?.. whats your point?

-- 

S.R.Raza.
raza@surya.engrg.uwo.ca

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From: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid)
Subject: Cricket and provincialism
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:28:49 GMT
Reply-To: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Civil Engineering

Folks its 2.30 in the morning and I need to get some
sleep but today I will present my opinions on this
issue. Please keep your fingers crossed.
-- 

*********************************************************************

SOHBAN SHAHID                
Civil Engg. Dept.                (303) 491 7710/8204 (work)
Colorado State University        (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523

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From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk  (A.M.T. Bell)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Best bowling figures.
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:54:29 GMT

In article 1eih2hINN85n@daisy.ee.und.ac.za, fkhan@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Feroz Khan) writes:
> Hi there Netters
> 
> Here's a question for you:
> 
>      What is the most number of wickets taken in a Test by 
>      any bowler in both innings? (i.e which bowler, when,
>      where and the figures for the bowler).
> 
> Please mail me at fkhan@daisy.ee.und.ac.za and I will post a summary some
> time.
> 
> Thanx 
> Feroz
> 
> -- 
> Feroz Khan                        || fkhan@daisy.ee.und.ac.za
> Third Year Electrical Engineering || 
> University of Natal, Durban       || A Man too busy to pray is busier
> South Africa                      || than god wants him to be.


Jim Laker, Old Trafford 1956 Eng vs Australia

1st innings 9-37
2nd innings 10-53

match 19-90


tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
serc daresbury laboratory ! "back off man, i'm a scientist"
atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! bill murray - ghostbusters
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From: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov (Pradip R. Shah)
Subject: Excellent Summary
Reply-To: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: G.E. Government Services
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:13:44 GMT

Feroz must be complimented for his excellent summary of the 1st test between India
and SA.  I am sure that other memmbers of this group will join me in congratulating
him.  Keep up the good work.


Pradip Shah General Electric  USA
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Dismissed first ball....
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:06:57 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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		Dismissed first ball....

  Sorry, Wisden does NOT have a list of batsmen dismissed off the first ball
of a test, though it does have a list of bowlers who took a wicket with their
first ball in test cricket.
  This list does appear in "Figures of Cricket" by Sudhir Vaidya, although
I don't have it now. Offhand, here are a few instances in recent years:
  Roy Fredericks-dismissed by Abid Ali at Port-of-Spain in 1970-71
		 This was India's first win against WI, and the setting for
		 Gavaskar's debut
  Sudhir Naik-by Andy Roberts, Calcutta, 1974-75
                 Poor Sudhir is better known for the "socks episode" during
		 the 1974 tour of England.
  Sunil Gavaskar-by Geoff Arnold (?) at Edgbaston (?) in 1974 AND
                 by Andy Roberts at Calcutta in 1983-84

  Others have given more recent instances.

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From: shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273)
Subject: Re: recent querry on century on debut
Reply-To: shamim@bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:22:41 GMT

In article AA10615@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu,  gharpure@power.psl.ee.vt.edu writes:
>Someone recently asked:
> 
>>>(You could also add K. S. Ranjitsinhji and the Nawab of Pataudi (sr) who
>>>played for England.)
> 
>>Curious -- what were their scores?
>
>KSR: don't know
>
>NP(Sr): 102 for Eng vs Aus Sydney 1932/33
> This test is famous as: First Bodyline test, McCabe's 187*
>
>Also
>
>Duleepsinhji(sp?): 173 for Eng vs Aus Lord's 1930
> He was criticised by K.S.Ranjitsinhji (Duleep's uncle) for getting out to
> an irresponsible stroke.
> This test is also famous for: King "whoever" "responsible" :-)
> for Woodfull's wicket, Bradman's 254(his best innings by his claim)
>
>Vasudev
>


K. S. Ranjitsinhji made 154* vs Aus at Manchester 1896 on his test debut. 

I do not think that Duleepsinhji's  score is a test debut century. Are you sure?

	--SAN
From: penglish@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Paul English)
Subject: Re: Chinaman Delivery
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:22:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.163325.4111@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>Could anyone explain the chinaman delivery (bowler's) ? Thanks.
>
>Pradip Shah General Electric 
>

It is the stock ball delivered by a left arm wrist spinner (the left arm
equivalent of a leg spinner).  The ball turns in to a right hand batsman,
i.e. as for an off-break but usually with more bounce. 


-- 
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From: VGC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Venu Gopal Chalamgari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: cricket quiz
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:14:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
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  Hai,
       I have the following questions, for which i dont have an answer
 could any one answer these
1.who is the only bowler in the world who has given 6 direct byes( only one
bounce on the pitch the second one over the fence)
2.do you who was the 12th man in the indian team at the prudential cup 1983
final?
3. who is the only indian player who recalled a batsmen after he was given out
by the umpire?
4.who is the highest wicket taker in ranji trophy?
5.who is the player who used an aluminium bat in one of the most controversial
test matches?do you know which test?
6.who is the player who hit a man in bathroom outside mcg(aus) with his
stroke(/a six over the fence) and later visited him  in the hospital after
the days play?
7.who is the player who played hockey for the national team and also led
its cricket team in a test nmatch?
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From: pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Subject: Re: SA-India, draw. Amre man of the match.
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:48:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.005301.7861@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU>, kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:


|> >Clive Loyd named Amre man of the match for his gutsy debut 100.  
|> 
|> Well deserved. Amre proved that given a chance he can do really well.
|> He was not given enough chance during the World cup and
|> India-Australia series.


I have no complaint against what is said above. But, I thnik it was more of a
question of giving "wrong" chances than not giving "enough" chances. Amre was
played in a lot of ODIs in WSC, but at #6 or #7. Let me reproduce some of the
things I said about Amre at various times, which make my stand clear [to put
it simpler, let me just get it off my chest :-) ].

(1) In my reflections after the world cup:

A talent wasted:

I, for one, believe that he was not well-used by his captain. With Manjrekar
out of form, Amre should've been tried (in WSC) at #3. He never looked at ease
while trying to slog in the last few overs. He always made around 20 and got
out playing a fancy shot. Slogging doesn't come naturally to him. I see little
point in using him at #6 or #7. It's a waste of talent, IMHO.

Play him in tests:

In future, he is a good prospect for tests (and for ODIs, if used properly).
He seems to have a good temperament. He should be tried in tests. He can prove
to be a solid bat.

(2) Shortly after the series with Zimbabwe was over:

It may be worthwhile to consider him for the tests vs SA. A test match
material is being wasted in ODIs!


|> Cheers,
|> 
|> V R Kumar

PVR
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From: urajan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Uday Rajan)
Subject: Two chinaman bowlers
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:32:20 GMT

In article <01GRDOTDJYHU9859BS@ccmail.sunysb.edu> ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Anthony M. Begley) writes:

>PS Still noone can name just one LH WRIST spinner !! Surely there must have been 
>one somewhere, even if not in test cricket. If so did he have a chinaman?
>

I think Roy Fredericks was a wrist spinner, and bowled the chinaman. He has 
bowled in Tests (not a whole lot, of course). Also, I'm pretty sure Sobers
did bowl the occasional chinaman (was there any delivery he DIDN'T bowl - other
than the right-handed one?); I seem to remember a photograph of his in one of 
his books where the caption claims he's just bowled a chinaman, and the effort
shows in his face...

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From: svangav@eng.clemson.edu (sreedhar vangavolu)
Subject: Addition
Reply-To: svangav@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:09:59 GMT

	A small addition to the posted "artistic" cricket field positions.

	That filed position is for "right-handed" batsman. Right......?

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From: D.I.Patel@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Best Indian XI   (Re: Amre should be dropped)
Reply-To: D.I.Patel@lut.ac.uk (Lord of the Lords)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:46:39 GMT

In article <761@wavefront.wti.com> ravi@wti.com (Ravi Raj) writes:
>
>Since my last posting on "Amre should be dropped" ( I have
>reprints in case you missed it), I've been receiving tons and 
>tons of mail as you might imagine. Some people have been asking 
>me to post a `balanced' Indian XI. Balanced in terms of region,
>weight, height, language, zodiac signs, etc, etc. Quite a few 
>folks have also been asking me to punctuate every line with 
>something that looks like this  ":-)", whatever that means, for 
>the humor impaired, whatever that means.
>
>Well, I am going to do neither. I'm instead going to post
>what in my opinion has been the Best Indian XI in recent
>years.
>
> Best Indian XI (In recent times)
> --------------------------------
>
>    Name                        NOTES
>    ----                        -----
>
> 1. Arun Lal (capt)      His batting avg will make B.S. Chandrasekhar proud.
> 2. Pronob Roy           His batting avg will make Arun Lal proud.
> 3. M.L. Narasimha Rao   He has all the strokes in the world, including
>                         a single handed snick over the slips.
> 4. Kirti Azad           Send him in only when the spinners bowl. If they never
>                         get to bowl - take Sekhar's help to hurt retire him. 
> 5. Surinder Khanna (wk) With his acrobatics, the slip fielders had better
>                         watch out.
> 6. Yajurvendra Singh    Should not field - Captain's orders. Allowed to
>                         bat, bowl, bring drinks - but never field.
> 7. Dhiraj Parsanna      Can bowl real fast - can also bowl spin - leg
>                         spin, off spin, googly, chinaman whatever.
> 8. Suru Nayak           His tantalizing leg spins are a nightmare.
>                         Ask the close-in fielders.
> 9. T.A. Sekhar          Bowls real, real fast. Only don't let him bowl
>                         2 consecutive overs - he has asthma.
>10. Dilip Doshi          You'd better give him bowling. Otherwise, he'll start
>                         bowling from the outfield. Excellent fielder too.
>11. Bharath Reddy        A few of you might question the inclusion of a second
>                         keeper. But those of you who've seen Khanna keep won't 
>
>12th man: Sandip Patil   Will field except when S. Nayak bowls - At that 
>                         time, he'll field outside the stadium.
>
It seems i misunderstood you when you wrote Amre should be dropped from the
next test...you were obviously being sarci. and funny about it....so excuse me
for not having seen the funny side of the article....reading the above i now
know more about your humorous side....

Great keep it up........

>
>-- 
>--


>Ravi                                              ravi@wti.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: '92 Cricket Tour Cancelled in S.L.
From: jcsheth@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:18:49 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Hey netters, 

   I have an important scoop from a Mr.Shaw writing in the  soc.cul.tamil
newsgroup. I do not want to repost on r.s.c. because I don't have his 
permission or rather I don't know how to. The subject is "The Day After.."

It seems that a bomb explosion that rocked the New Zealand team's
hotel in Colombo, Sri Lanka - before even a game is played. Scoop is
that the New Zealand cricket team has abandoned its tour of Sri Lanka 
after deaths close to the hotel.

This event is a real shame considering that tours to Sri Lanka were re-
-activated with a long schedule in the next few seasons. The supportless       
and vicious LTTE terrorists are probably the prime suspects in this    
crime. Let's hope S.L. can clean up these LTTE vermins soon enough.
From: shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Chinese bowling: THE DEFINITIVE ANSWER
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:58:22 GMT
Reply-To: shamim@bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ

In article 0E250440@vms.csd.mu.edu,  9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.160405.2371@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:
>>Should I don my asbestos suit?  In any case, six
>>months from now, someone will surely raise this topic again. Sigh.
>
>Not to worry, SAN. As I said above, I have extracted the article and put it
>away for safe-keeping. If anybody asks the question, all I have to do is mail
>this copy to that person. 
>>
>>	--SAN
>>
>
>-Murali
>

Well, Murali, we did not have to wait six months. 
Here is it:
In article 15063@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au,  penglish@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Paul English) writes:
>He did indeed.  Another current example is David Freedman of N.S.W.  Two of
>his three wickets against the W.I. yesterday were with the chinaman
>delivery.
>
>P.S.  I stand corrected on my earlier post, the chinaman is indeed the
>wrong un, not the stock ball of a left arm wrist spinner.
>
>
>-- 
>    Paul English    |Email:                        |You can tell how far
>   School of MPCE   |s8921366@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au|we have to go when
>Macquarie University|penglish@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au |today's supercomputers
> Sydney, Australia  |    paul@vulcan.anu.edu.au    |are programmed in FORTRAN

Note that he is from Australia where the OED informs us that a minor variation 
may have been used in 1955. 
--shamim
From: sunny@Metaphor.COM (Kamaljeet Ahluwalia)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Gavaskar's dismissal at Sabina Park in 1982-83.
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:35:08 GMT
Reply-To: sunny@Metaphor.COM (Kamaljeet Ahluwalia)
Organization: m4


I remember this incident very distinctly. Tony Cozier was the commentator.
During those days Gavaskar had developed a habit of shuffling across towards
the off stump just before the ball was delivered. Holding had not been opening
the bowling in the previous tests. But he opened this once and bowled one of
his super-fast balls aimed at the leg-stump. Sure enough, Gavaskar shuffled
across, exposing his leg stump. He saw the ball going down the leg side - he
let it go - and voila - his leg stump was gone.

	-Sunny
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