From: hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey)
Subject: Re: Clinton, Quayle, and the draft
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:40:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.003037.14137@afit.af.mil>,
   jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey) writes:
>
>>   jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>>>
>>>I am not going to argue the merits of either of these people's "war
>>>record", but I would like to discuss this double standard the Democrats
>>>have on these two.  It was OK for Clinton to do anything legal to 
>>>avoid being drafted, yet Quayle is not afforded that right?
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>Break out of your campaign fog for a minute and look at the facts.  Do
>>>you think this is right?
>
>>The issue here is that Dan Quayle has well placed parents who were able to
>>help him, while Bill Clinton had to help himself.  Clinton had the grades
>>to get a Rhodes Scholarship, Quayle did not.  Clinton was able to avoid
>>Vietnam by himself, Quayle was not.
>
>Actually, that wasn't the issue.  You've conveniently redirected it.
>The issue was: if it was OK for Clinton to do *anything legal* to get out
>of going to Vietnam, why was that not OK for Quayle?  (You can talk about
>how you scorn people with connections in some other post.)

Well, IMO is was OK for either of them to do "anything legal" to avoid
Vietnam.  Neither party has the high ground on this issue.  And of course
my statement has been refuted by news reports today.  That's what I get
for reading the paper :-)

>>This is the same issue as how Quayle got into a law school that had a
>>2.60 GPA requirement when his was 2.16 (figures from memory).  He had a
>>rich, powerful family.
>
>Get real.  He may have had friends in the right places, but he certainly was
>not brought up in a rich, powerful family.  You've been reading too many
>newspapers.  But I digress.  This wasn't the original subject... 

I admit I don't know many details, but I thought his family owned a large
publishing house in Indianapolis.  Therefore, DQ didn't have to get a *real*
job.  I would call this at least somewhat rich and powerful.  

>
>>hulsey%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Jim Hulsey)   TBDBITL '84 ('85 Rose Bowl)
>>An Ohioan living in Misery (Missouri, same difference)
>
>Well, I don't know what TBDBITL means, but if you want to talk Rose
>Bowl, I'm game!  I believe the Huskies *own* that little bit of hollowed
>ground.
>
>Chip Switzer, counting the days 'til I *leave* Ohio for the Emerald City.

TBDBITL if the acronym for the nickname of the Ohio State Marching Band.
It means "The Best Damn Band in the Land".  192 on the field, all brass
and percussion.  The only non player on the field is the drum major.  No
flags, pom-poms, rifles, or majorettes.  A *real* band.  Watch a Script
Ohio sometime (if network TV ever deigns to show it).  Watch the
crossovers.  Each bandsman is 45 inches apart.  Moving at 144 beats per
minute, you have to get though the gap between people.

I was fortunate to be able to play on the hallowed ground of the Rose
Bowl in 1985.  We lost by one stupid point to the University of Spoiled
Children.  That trip made me hate U$C more than I ever disliked Meeeechigan.

IMO The Univ. of Miami is really U$C - East Coast Campus.  If they play
for the National Championship, its Washington all the way!  BTW, how has
Andrew affected them?

Yes, the Huskies look *real* good this year.  I wish I could say the same
for the Buckeyes, but they will never win the Big 10 as long as John
Cooper is the coach.  He can recruit, but he can't coach.  As opposed to
his predecessor, who could coach, but not recruit.  

Wait, this *is* rec.sport.football.college, isn't it?

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hulsey%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Jim Hulsey)   TBDBITL '84 ('85 Rose Bowl)
An Ohioan living in Misery (Missouri, same difference)

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