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From: edmunds@vaxr.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Warriors Notes
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:12:36 GMT
Organization: LLNL_LIS


	The Warriors open camp today with a team even younger than last
year's, still without a legit center, and with Nelson professing to have
no idea how good the team will be.  Which is different from last year,
when he said he thought they'd be bad, and that they'd be lucky to get the
eighth playoff spot.  Shows all he knows....

	All players on the roster are signed, with Sprewell and Buechler
signing yesterday.  Buechler was the surprise of the summer league, and
Nelson expects him to challenge for the starting 2 spot.  The roster 
looks like....
	Sure To Make It		Probably	Probably Not
	---------------		--------	------------
	Mullin			Sprewell	Hensen
	Hardaway		Houston		Jennings
	Owens			Buechler	Smith????
	Marchiulionis		Lister
	Gatling			Grayer
	Alexander		Tolbert
	Hill

	As you may have observed, I have 13 players likely to make the
team.  Given that Marchiulionis is going to start the year on IR, this
isn't unreasonable.  If there are no more long term injuries, look for
Tolbert to have a mysterious series of ailments.  Which isn't all bad --
he occasionally does color commentary on the Warriors radio broadcasts
when he's injured, and he's pretty funny.
	I put the question marks next to Smith's name 'cause I don't no
what became of him after playing for the Warriors in the summer league.

	More miscellany from Nelson...

  - Lister is looking good, and is healthy.  He'll be competing for
the starting center spot with Alexander and Hill.
  - Hill slumped at the end of last year, but has worked harder than 
anyone this summer, and Nelson looks for more improvement this year.
  _ Vandiver was released because his knee is bad and he doesn't have
the skills to play in the NBA.  They retained his rights as long as they
did at Vandiver's request, to give him a bargaining chip with the team
in Spain that he's going to play for.
  - Nelson is going to try to reduce Mullin's and Hardaway's minutes by
about five per game [he always says this].  But with Sarunas hurt, it
probably won't happen right away.
  - Marchiulionis probably won't be ready until sometime in December.
Even with him gone, Mullin won't see much time at 2.
  - Mullin doesn't feel the need to skip training camp (as do Jordan
and Pippen) because he doesn't feel that he expended much energy.  His
normal workout regimen is more rigorous.  He may skip a day or two here
and there, though.
  - Houston is tough, works hard, and doesn't complain.  He's already
broken Tolbert's nose (unintentionally).
  - Keith Jennings has a chance to make the team, but he needs to have
a great camp.  Nelson's plan had been to use Marchiulionis to back up
Hardaway, but with his injury there's an opportunity for Jennings.


	That's all that comes to mind at the moment.  More as camp
goes along.

-- Dave Edmunds
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: First Round busts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:00:50 GMT

dxj@cci632.cci.com (Dennis Joyce) writes:

>Can someone compile a list of NBA First Round "busts"???

>Lets define a "bust" as a first rounder that was in the league
>for less than 2 years. Lets also narrow the search down to
>say the last 5 - 10 years...

	OK... I'll take on this challenge.  Some off of the top of my head:

	Roy Marble
	Ronnie Murphy
	Michael Smith
	Chris Washburn (played bits and pieces of 3 seasons)
	Michael Young
	LeRon Ellis (be it, not yet officially)
	Byron Irvin
	
	Limited time at the present -- will post more later... :)

	Jazzy J

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From: kompella@cs.ucsd.edu (Vachaspathi Kompella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Laker pre-season
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:13:57 GMT
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego


Does any one know the Laker pre-season schedule, and whether any of the games are
going to be televised on KCAL/TNT/PRIME?

-Vach
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: So...
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:44:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Oct16.144440.40370
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Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.195432.9824@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>With all that trivia spreading around, I have one: what player has never
>attempted a three pointer in the most seasons played?  Actually, I don't
>know if he threw one up last season (I should look), but after that many
>years, I kinda doubt he would change.
>



Wel, I assume you mean active players, as many players played along time
before the 3pt. was an actual shot:-)

Anyway, my guess would be James Donaldson....

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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Lakers to Go all the way.
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:56:27 GMT

mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel) writes:
>These wins have to come from somewhere. Start looking
>around at the Western division and ask yourself what teams WON't be
>improved this year.

	Golden State, Portland.
	Houston.
	Sacramento, Dallas, Denver.

I'm not making any promises, but these six teams, each in its own way
and at its own level, don't look like they'll make giant steps
forward:

Portland is too good to get better; Houston hasn't resolved its
internal problems; the Warriors are getting smaller instead of bigger;
and the other three are still on the long and winding road to
respectability.




--Gidi  (lakers in three in 93)



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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: What happened to Cadillac?
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:38:26 GMT

What happened to Greg `Cadillac' Anderson of the Nuggets? Where is he now?


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
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From: creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Clippers
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:37:41 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.

In article <39258@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
>I am stunned that a team that struggled with Benoit Benjamin for so
>long, and finally got good only when they got rid of him, has now
>gone and acquired Stanley Roberts and John Williams over the case of
>a single off-season.  Geez!  Hey, Elgin-- wanna trade for Oliver
>Miller?

This could be a good move.  Maybe returning home will do some
good for Williams (graduated from Crenshaw).  Also, for the
first time the Clips have got a real coach, and they unloaded
the hugest head case of all time in William Bedford.

>
>Hey, if Roberts and Williams don't work out, maybe you can trade
>them to the Rams for Jim Everett and some draft picks.  :-)

Even better... I've heard the Suns are trying to move Rick
Robey.  I guess his feet have healed.

Scott

>
>Tony
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From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: USBL CBA and other semipro basketball leagues
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:02:01 GMT

Are any of these semipro leagues stil in existence?

If so when do their seasons run?
From: johneco@cns.nyu.edu (John Econopouly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Alonzo Mourning, greedy SOB
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:33:50 GMT
Reply-To: johneco@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

> In article <1992Oct12.141338.21921@dg-rtp.dg.com> goolsby@harpo.rtp.dg.com (Chris Goolsby) writes:
>Who is the Falk guy anyway?  Anybody know who else he represents?

We hate Falk here in NY.  I have a sneaking feeling that he is a Celtic agent,
which doesn't bode well for your team -- don't be surprised if Alonzo sits
out and ends up becoming a Celtic somehow. 

Unless I'm mistaken, Falk represents Patrick Ewing, and Xavier Mcdaniel.
Falk was responsible for the "I've got to be one of the 4 best played 
players in the NBA" clause in Patrick's contract (a clause which I find really
stupid; I mean, now David Robinson has one, Shaq has one, what happens when
a couple more players get one, do they all suddenly escalate to infinite salaries?),
and for Patrick demanding to be traded from NY.  He was also responsible for
X-man bolting to the evil enemy Boston.  Neither of these incidents in and of themselves was so difficult to understand or excuse -- you could say that NY had a shitty administration for years, and patrick wanted out, ok.  You could say that X-man was feeling unwanted by NY's offseason searching for other players and wanted out (although this I actually won't buy --NY really treayted X with kid gloves while he sucked all season long).  Anyway, my point is that it's not these incidents that make
Falk an asshole, its his attitude during the incidents.  He'd avoid talking to the team, he'd make alot of misleading and inflammatory comments to the media (even managing to make them turn against patrick, the only good player we've had in NY for almost 10 years).  In the case of Mcdaniel, he was signed by Boston before NY was
even allowed to match the offer (true, this is the Knicks' official position on the issue, but after hearing the comments of all parties involved I tend to believe it),
and NY would apparantly have payed more.

In short, expect trouble on the Alonzo front.  Its too bad too, because Charlotte will be a cool team with him aboard, especially if he attends camp.
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From: kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: More trivia...
Reply-To: kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:41:29 GMT



>  However, I'm sure people in Detroit will remember Kevin making a HUGE 3
>  in the '87 playoffs to send them home early....

..affectionately referred to in Boston as a "McHail Mary" type of shot!
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: status on negotions between Hornets & Mourning
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:57:56 GMT

ichong@oracle.com (Ivan Chong) writes:
>I read in the Newspaper that Alonzo Mourning is threatening
>to sit out the entire season if Charlotte doesn't meet his
>contract demands.  It was reported that if he does sit out the
>season, that he would re-enter the draft for next year.

	I think that these demands are more from his agent than Alonzo
	himself.  From what I've seen of Alonzo and his demeanor, he would
	want to play next season for the Hornets above everything else.
	The Hornets are a young team and headed for a very bright future.
	However, many agents out there corrupt the minds of the young and
	tempt them w/ $.  I'm sure Alonzo himself would settle for $2.5
	million and get on w/ playing basketball.  Sitting out would
	do absolutely nothing for him.

	Jazzy J

	-- Fire your bonehead agent Alonzo!

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From: rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: nba.c what is it?
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:23:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: SSD.1992Oct15.212352.15100
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel

I compiled this program on my Un*x and it works great.  I then took it
home and compiled and ran it on my PC using the 3.0 version of
Borland's Turbo C++ compiler.  The source required NO modifications.
Good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- 

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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Trent Tucker signs w/ BULLS
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:36:02 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
[Bull's lineup stuff deleted]
>Where's Byron Houston?

Traded away for draft choices.
(I forget who he was traded to.)
From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bye Bye Fatman
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:28:11 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct9.220301.11042@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani) writes:
> 
> Maybe I'm missing something here but what do the Celtics have to offer in 
> return for Gugliotta? No matter what anyone may think of him, he's still
> a top 10 pick in a really deep draft.

	How many "top 10" picks have crashed & burned over the last decade???

	Danny Ferry
	Len Bias? (The ultimate C&B!!)
	Steve Stipanovich
	Chris Jackson
	Dennis Hopson
	Chris Washburn
	Kenny Walker
	John Koncak
	William Bedford
	Joe Kliene
	Mel Turpin
	Russell Cross (who?)
	George McCloud
	Bo Kimble
	Randy White
	Lancaster Gordon (who???)
	Tom Hammonds
	Brad Sellars
	
> ...Gamble is certainly not worth as much
> and Fox isn't either (not as yet anyway) - and anyway, with Grant and 
> MacLean the Bullets are quite strong at the small forward spot.
> 

	Say what you want about Gamble. But at least we know he can play in the
NBA (well, offense at any rate...). Gugs and MacLean are complete unknowns
until they play.

	Having said all that, if I were the Bullets GM I'ld pass on Gamble for
Gugs. The Bullets are not going any where soon. I'ld try and build through
the draft....

> Another thing - what about Sherman Douglas?

	Who do the Bullets have that would pry Douglas away from the C's????

> Are the Celtics going to keep him or trade him?

	Gavitt was recently quoted saying he made a mistake last year by 'trying'
to trade Brian Shaw. He got a lot of very silly offers for Shaw and it was very
distruptive to the team. Gavitt says it was part of his NBA GM learning process
and he'll never make that mistake again. 
 


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From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:30:25 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <ICHONG.92Oct14094756@jwu.oracle.com>, ichong@oracle.com (Ivan Chong) writes:
> 
> ...  On the broadcast, they mentioned that Higgins has been
> in the NBA for about 3 yrs (?) and went to school at Michigan.  Does
> anyone know what kind of player he was like when he played there?


	I know! HE'S the one that lead Michigan to the NCAA Championship!!!!

	Huh? What, Higgins isn't playing for the Pistons???? Never mind....

	:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bullets Get a Break
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:26:18 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

The Bullets were awarded a salary cap exception for Bernard King
today on medical grounds. That means that they can use half of
his $2.5 mil salary to sign a player. 

Undoubtedly that player will be Tom Gugliotta. The $1.25 mil max
that they can offer him will be less than their original offer,
earlier in the year, but Gugs seems to want to play in the NBA.
They'll probably extend the # of yrs of the deal.

Sorry Celts fans. (NOT!)


Ron
From: jds23971@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Trent Tucker signs w/ BULLS
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:33:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvrKwB.5Gz
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:

>I think this is a great move by the Bulls.  The Bulls roster know looks
>like...

>PG: Paxson      Armstrong
>SG: Jordan      Tucker       C.Williams
>SF: Pippen      McCray
>PF: Grant       King
>C : Cartwright  S.Williams   Perdue

What about Byron Houston?  I can't see them cutting him, but where do
you put him?  The Bulls can't keep discarding their 1st round picks
or they'll get old in a hurry.


Just my $0.02.

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From: dodd@OES.ORST.EDU (Stirling S. Dodd)
Subject: Re: Blazer Report
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:45:54 GMT

Clyde is out recovering from knee surgery. He should be back early on in the
season.

By the way, Thanks to Ed for the Blazer reports. I don't get much news down here
in Texas.

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From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Alonzo Mourning, greedy SOB
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:37:10 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct12.131439.477@brtph560.bnr.ca>, markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
> 
> Now I am growing tired of Alonzo and his agent.  Alonzo won't take $2.1M
> and is looking for $2.5M.  Did he forget that just last year, the No. 1 
> pick Larry Johnson only got $1.9M (if I'm not mistaken).
> 

	Did you guys get this upset last year when Larry Johnson held out
until the night before the season opener to get his first contract????

	Do you think Mourning and his Agent have noticed that Gminski & J.R.
are the alternatives at center?

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From: ahall@fmrco.com (Andrew Hall)
Subject: Re: Celtics
Organization: Fidelity Management & Research Co.
	<1992Oct15.124719.3748@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:37:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.124719.3748@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> dewey@ccs.northeastern.edu (Dwight S Flewelling) writes:

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From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
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Subject: Re: So...
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:56:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


In article <1992Oct15.195432.9824@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
|> With all that trivia spreading around, I have one: what player has never
|> attempted a three pointer in the most seasons played?  Actually, I don't
|> know if he threw one up last season (I should look), but after that many
|> years, I kinda doubt he would change.
Donaldson for sure, maybe Parish as well.
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Nets 'Tudes
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:46:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvv81K.93y
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


	I just saw that the Nets acquired Jayson Williams from the Sixers
	for some draft picks.  Supposedly the trade was made by the Sixers
	to clear up some $ under the cap to sign Clarence Weatherspoon.

	Interesting trade.  U'd think the Nets had enough personalities.
	Coleman, Morris... now Williams.  Chuck Daly better have that whip
	and collars ready...

	Jazzy J
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From: wp01jst1@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (John Tomas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Alonzo Mourning, greedy SOB
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:11:35 GMT


If 2.5 mil is what Alonzo thinks he is worth; as far as I'm concerned
he is within his rights to ask for it.  You might recall another former
hero and what happened to his career suddenly: Bo Jackson.  If Alonzo
is willing to sit out a year; that too his his right.  Last I heard
slavery was forbidden.
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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: Re: Lakers
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:10:39 GMT

In article <ICHONG.92Oct14094756@jwu.oracle.com> ichong@oracle.com (Ivan Chong) writes:
>I posted a while ago asking for more information on Sean Higgins.

Higgens played for Orlando last season.  He played both the SG and SF
positions and did a solid job at both.  He has a reasonable outside game,
his inside game isn't a solid (sorry, I didn't have time to grab his
stats). 

>On the broadcast, they mentioned that Higgins has been
>in the NBA for about 3 yrs (?) and went to school at Michigan.  
>anyone know what kind of player he was like when he played there?

I'm not aware of any previous NBA experience.  Orlando picked him up from the
CBA at mid-season.  He was released to make it possible to sign O'Neal and
retain Roberts.  The Lakers got a good solid role-type player, we'll miss
him here in Orlando.

Tom
From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
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Subject: Re: So...
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:09:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Oct15.195432.9824@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>...[]...I have one: what player has never
>attempted a three pointer in the most seasons played?  Actually, I don't
>know if he threw one up last season (I should look), but after that many
>years, I kinda doubt he would change.
>

robert parish?

- nate
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Brian Williams down again
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:29:39 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson



It seems that Brian Williams collapsed again here in Tucson (the 4th time)
outside a friend's home. He banged his head a bit and was rushed to a
local hospital where the usual array of tests were run and no cause could
be found. He was not wearing the monitor he was supposed to be wearing.

 He intends to see some bozo in california who examines peoples "auras"
and can cure their illnesses. He says that unless he finds out what is wrong
he will refuse to go to camp. I believe Orlando intends to fine him for each day
he is out of camp.  He also does not intend to sign a contract at the end of 
this season.

			gln