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From: sljlx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info. on Geotech. Engg.
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:47:41 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


Subject: Info. on Geotech. Engg.



Hi friends,
One of my friends back in India has asked for some info. on funding in the
following univs: a)L.S.U. b)V.P.I.& S.U. c)Urbana-C d)Lehigh.
He has done his B.E. & M.E. at Roorkee and his area of interest is "Effect
of Industrial Wastes on Clayey Soils".  He is applying for Ph.D. to those
Univs.
Now if anyone has some info. regarding some Prof. having some good project
in that area having lots of funding, please inform me the project and the
Profs. name.
Thanx in anticipation.
Ashish Sharma  E-Mail: ashar@kernel.uwrl.usu.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Hinduism and Idol Worship....
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:43:28 GMT

kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:

>   "karuNai pongkum uLLam-athu
>    kadavuL vaazhum illam.
>    karuNai maRanthE vaazhkindRaar
>    kadavulaith thEdi alaikindRaar"
>------------------------------------------kaviarasu
I think Kavi Arasar had a change of mind later when he wrote
Arthamulla Indu Matham (I strongly endorse the above four lines;
my comment had only to do with the "meaning" of various "rituals"
and their place in our society) - ganesh
>    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Re: Khalistan
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:50:53 GMT

In article <H0H5VB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol) writes:

incessantly about "Khalistan" (everything deleted).


Back to our regularly scheduled program...

Rakesh Patel
From: fafat@sal-sun62.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Do we need a religion?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 12:25:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun62.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec21.152945.7813@ryn.mro4.dec.com> verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma) writes:
>
>	Ed, as I said I do not insist on proofs. I insist on 
>	'realizable truth'.

	The problem is what one means by "realizable". You tell me what
	*you* mean by it. I've told you what it means to me.

>	(around $1300) to New Delhi, you will realize India. If you can't
>	then 'believe' me India does exist. It is just like you believed
>	Armstrong that he landed on the Moon.

	Let's not get into the argument about how one can *determine*
	without doubt thathe did indeed land. It's not just because
	Armstrong said so. 

>	The knowledge of the Vedas depends on the revelations and experiences
>	of the Vedic rishis through the Yoga technology. 
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	I must grant one thing. You come up with gems :)


>	I can't prove
>	to you the Vedic knowledge but I can discuss its logistics that makes
>	sense to a rational mind. 

	depends again on what you mean by "rational". You've never answered
	my question about that turtle. Is the turtle idea rational? 


>	No bickering please. Let us get into serious discussions. I am
>	changing my signature so that you guys may feel confortable. It is

	You will notice the "unofffensive" nature of this posting :). Let's
	negotiate :)

	FFT
no disclaimers this time :)
From: uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: When did the 1971 war start?
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:43:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: bnr.ca

I would say the "seeds" of war were planted when Tiger Tikka Khan
and Gen Yahaya Khan took the military option to solve a political
situation. This caused a million (some say 10 million) refugees into
Tripura, Assam and Bengal. The Indian Army started to foray into 
border areas of E-Pak as early is May 1971 (initially in the guise of
Mukti Bahini, since there was no such thing at that time). I took
part on this action in the area of Tripura. The goals for Army during
that time was to keep clear a narrow belt (5 or 10 miles) of Pak troops
sort of "no-mans" land. I think we almost knew that sooner or
later we will be in E-Pak. During that summer almost 300,000 troops
were deployed around E-Pak (one needs 3-1 superiority for a planned
aggresive action).

Anyhow readers are free to draw their own conclusions regarding who
or what started the war (How about 1947 partition as the real cause?).
From: 89500831@vax1.dcu.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Recruitment agencies in Boston area.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 07:02:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Date       : Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:55 GMT

Hello, all you in networld...

I am coming to the US on a temporary work visa (J-1); and I've been told that
unless one has a green-card/citizenship, most agencies just don't want to know.

Does anyone know of recruitment agencies in and around the Boston area that
would be willing to handle non-residents? (or alternatively, people on temp
work-visas)

Any comments/advice/assistance at all will be much appreciated.

Please email replies, as this posting is being gatewayed to the Usenet.

Thanks in advance.

-Ronnie.
--
Ronnie Albuquerque.
89500831@dcu.ie, cc445@cleveland.freenet.edu

Subtlety : The art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before
           it's understood.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Erudition ( was Re: Alt.culture.bengal)
Date: 25 Dec 1992 16:34:47 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Fafat,

You lampoon George Chacko and Irarus.
You ridicule Bukhari.
You make fun of alt.culture.bengal.
yet,

che' sera sera is Italian, not French:-)

Perhaps it is time you take a short break to read up a little
before you reappear to bash more people.

A little erudition does not hurt, does it?

Bijoy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bd6520@u.cc.utah.edu (BALACHANDRA DESHPANDE/MECHANICAL ENGINEERING)
Subject: test
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:56:37 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: rshankar@top.cis.syr.edu (Ravi V. Shankar)
Subject: Re: Ayyappa Saamis
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 12:23:12 EST

srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>Nice to hear about it. Infact, this is the month (maargazhi) I think.
>for the Sabari malai trip. 

The Sabari malai pilgrimage is undertaken either in January (during Pongal)
or in April (Tamil/Malayalam/.. New Year's Day). The preparation for the trip
starts 3 or 4 weeks earlier.

-- Ravi
From: deepak@konark.njit.edu (Deepak Kakadasam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: NEWS: Temple for Kushboo in Tiruchi
Keywords: WHO CARES?
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:46:18 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

WHO CARES?


--
VLSI:=> "Getting High On Low Voltage"       ** 
E15WNJTPXE15x280WXR1TL21NXL4TL17NXR10TL->    **    Those who can, DO
You can tune a guitar, but you cant tuna fish.**    Those who cant, TEACH.
*******************************************************************************
From: varma@paul.rutgers.edu (not yet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.bengal
Date: 24 Dec 92 20:42:45 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

> >In article <199212240126.AA05216@mp.cs.niu.edu>, t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:

> So.culture.bangladesh is a news group created for discussing social and
> cultural issues of BANGLADESH. Though Bangla is the common language
> the culture in Bangladesh and West Bengal developed quite differently.
> Admittedly there is a lot of overlap. But nobody will mistake the British
> culture to be identical with the American culture. 

Ahaa. So in 40 years you claim that the new culture in West Bengal has
developed and has become different from the common roots you share
with the Bengalis in Bangladesh.

>Just consider how ludicrous
> your statement will look if I rephrase it like this:
> English is the national language of Great Britain. Thus all articles related
> to the American literature can be discussed in soc.culture.british

American literature has developed in parallel with the British
(Great?) for the last four hundred years. In the last two hundred
years America has produced literary figures of significance, such as
Poe, Whitman, Clemens, TSE, Pound, Williams...
If you claim that Bengali culture in WB grew so fast in last 40 years
that you give an analogy of America and Britain, then please don't
develop so fast: very soon you will look like people from Star Trek.

Therefore, my statement is NOT ludicrous.

> I detected no trace of egoism in Vijay's post. 

Then he has no business of saying that Bengalis will use it for poetry
and culture as opposed to Tamils, who use it for 'people bashing'.
(I am not a Tamil.)

> He only proposed a solution
> for a need which SCI is not suitable. I remember how I stopped posting my
> Bengali poems here. I have to agree that posting a Bengali poem every day
> without translation in SCI is not justified. But it is ridiculous to ask
> me to translate everything before I post.

In fact I am of the view that SCI is suitable for such discussions. I
am not Bengali but do follow Bangla (ek-to ek-to) and enjoy reading
whatever little I understand. I look forward to seeing other aspects
of Indian culture on the net. If a.c.b is created, I will be deprived.

I know I will never read a.c.b. I will only read s.c.i. I may be the
only dogmatic soul on the net, but I do believe that we should accept
the fact that we are culturally a diverse country and we must learn to
live together.

In short, I am opposed to creation of a news-group because:
1. it creates division,
(2. wastes bandwidth, 'cause people cross-post).

If you feel very strongly about a closed discussion then why do you
not start a mailing list (put my name please, in case...)?

> Love
> Arindam
> 
-- 
Regards,
Harsh Varma
Department of Computer Science
Rutgers University

Disclaimer: None. Please, everyone adopt my opinion, I am right!

Postscript: Please dont flame me, and I get very scared by death
            threats.
From: kashyap@pepper.rutgers.edu (Vipul Kashyap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Advani's interview to Indian Express
Keywords: Front page
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:34:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Can anyone post the front page interview given by Mr. L. K. Advani
to the Indian Express recently.

So that we can have a comprehensive account of the other side
of the coin.

Nothing in this world is black and white. Shades of grey ......

---Vipul Kashyap
From: dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Date: 3 Jan 93 19:00:20 GMT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR


				MEMO
				----


TO:	Deepak Bose, Deb Chatterjee, Mustafa Ibrahim, anonymous obscene posters,
	others who post *really* obscene and offensive material

FROM:	D. Pereira and others,
	Indignant and frustrated readers

REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN


After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 
will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)

If any other sci readers out there decide to support this action, then please
express your opinion.  A suggestion: extract this memo and post it again under
your own name.  Do please take the effort to type the SUBJECT heading over,
rather then doing a REPLY.  This way you will convey to the offenders that you
feel as strongly about this.

A final note to the persons mentioned above - please take this very seriously.
It is NOT a joke.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: godura@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Re: KNOCK KNOCK BOSEADIKA :-)))))))))))
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:40:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.232602.27218@fuug.fi> an3947@anon.penet.fi writes:
>KNOCK KNOCK!
>KAUN HAI?
>GADHE KE AULADH.
>O DEEPAK BOSE, ANDAR AA JAO :-))))))))
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^
YUP, Mustafa all right. I could recognize that face anywhere !
Hey, u lost some weight though, a couple of chins missing !!
Ruchir@anonymous.no.name

>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
>Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
>and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.

-- 
Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 731-4123 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srsurapa@mtu.edu (Surapanani)
Subject: Star - A Poem
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:32:12 GMT

             Star


    "Twinkle Twinkle little star
       how I wonder what you are"
       ran the jingle
       from the ages of BC and AD
       to the present times

     So the cowboy looked at the sky
       and wondered out aloud
       of what it could be
       as the cows grazed by
       unmindful and uncaring
       in peace with nature and mind

     There was a bigbang
       and out popped a big mass,
       a whole new universe of
       galaxies and constellations
       with tiny asterisks and
       big black holes

     The mass appeared so black and blue
       that the tiny tidbits sprinkled in the mass
       sparkled like little diamonds
       while the holes disappeared
       shunning and shying
       away from the shining stars
       sucking up any light
       which is showered upon

     While some stars formed into packs and groups
       from big bear to southern cross
       the others moved on
       comets and asteroids alike
       with occasional shooting stars

     One such Sun,glowed in red
       showering its light and heat
       on nine little sons
       going round and round
       trying to shun the fiery glow
       with their moons, so cool,
       that they sometimes call them half
       and sometimes full

     But my brethren,
       all is not rock, fire and ether
       as there is more to it than it meets the eye
       as in Astronomy and Astrology
       for they can chart the course of your destiny
       of what you were and what you will be
       from the past to the future

     So now you know friends
       what the stars are made up of
       not carbon or hydrogen
       helium or nitrogen
       but little burning souls 
       away from your reach
       only within the grasp of your dreams
       shining in the dark
       with sparkle and glitter
       pure and unsoiled
       loved by one and all
       from BC and AD to time eternity


                           Srini Surapanani

         ( The Cowboy from land of holy cows and magic fakirs)   

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor)
Subject: RE SOC.CULTURE.PUNJAB
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:01:47 GMT


Why not rec.humor ...?


Kapoor

( No offense, please...)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nav@apollo.hp.com (Navaneet Kumar)
Subject: Indian Music CD Clubs/Mail Order in US/Canada ?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:19:06 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

Dear sci readers:

I don't know if this thread has been discussed
here before. If it has, pardon my ignorance and 
can someone e-mail earlier responses to me.

I am looking for an Indian Music CD club, if
one exists here in the US. I heard about one,
Asmara CD Club (310-398-0080). I wonder if
there are others. 

If these clubs or catalog places exist, which ones are
better/cheaper ? Can you trust them with your credit
card numbers ? Any other caveats while dealing with them ? 

Please respond to me directly or post on the net. I'll
summarize and may be include the responses in an 
appropriate FAQ list. 

Thanks

Navneet Kumar
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:42342 soc.culture.tamil:4735
From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: s.c.tamil is quoted in 50 articles in s.c.indian!
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:31:55 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

Considering that hardly any article in s.c.tamil talks about
the conduct of other newsgroups, this is a great honour to
s.c.tamil: recognition of its importance, concern for its "quality".

That apart, one fear expressed by many opponents, namely reduction
in volume in s.c.i, has been dis-proved. In fact, the presence of
s.c.tamil, gives many there an opportunity to discuss something.

Incidentally, what some called as "bashings" have given people
opportunity to see other points of view, feelings etc. s.c.tamil
was not intended as a passive magazine. It is a discussion forum.
Except for a few people who have fundamental opposition to the
existance of the s.c.tamil itself, other's have posted their
views, however different in a civilized manner.
From: gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu (Srihari Gopal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Film Stars GIFS/JPEGS
Summary: Indian Film Stars
Keywords: Indian Film Stars
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:46:20 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

Sorry for the previous post, I hit the wrong key by mistake.

Anyway I've received a barrage of e-mail from a lot of people who can't
use FTP to get to the archive site at nic.funet.fi:/pub/culture/indian/pics

So I've decided to post all the images I have to alt.binaries.pictures.misc
So far I've posted the following:
madhuri31.gif
madhuri11.gif
anu4.gif

I'll post more in the next week, so look for them! I'll try only to post
at max one per day to preserve bandwidth.

And if you dont have access to either FTP or alt.binaries.pictures.misc
then you're out of luck. Try asking someone on the net who has it to send
to you.

Srihari Gopal
gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: Poem : Calcutta and I by Sunil Gangopadhyay
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 08:57:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.135916.2284@cbfsb.cb.att.com> rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel) writes:
>In article <199212310356.AA22921@mp.cs.niu.edu> t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:
>>
>>Calcutta and I
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>Calcutta is a terrible stone in my heart.
>>I'll destroy her-
>>

[...]

>>******** Translated by Subhoranjan Dasgupta and Sudeshna Chakravarty********** 
>
>
>What drivel! This is poetry!! Please, NO MORE BAD POETRY!!!
>
>
>
>Rakesh Patel

On the contrary, I think the poem quite captures the peculiar
love-hate relationship with Calcutta that most people raised
in that most remarkable of cities will testify to.




-- 
Sayan Bhattacharyya          |   Colourless green ideas sleep furiously.
Graduate student             |
Artificial Intelligence Lab  |
The University of Michigan   |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Advani's interview to Indian Express
Date: 30 Dec 1992 22:28:44 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu
Keywords: Front page

In article <Dec.30.16.34.17.1992.9101@pepper.rutgers.edu>, kashyap@pepper.rutgers.edu (Vipul Kashyap) writes:
|> Can anyone post the front page interview given by Mr. L. K. Advani
|> to the Indian Express recently.
|> 
|> So that we can have a comprehensive account of the other side
|> of the coin.
|> 
|> Nothing in this world is black and white. Shades of grey ......

I believe you mean the front-page column/article that he wrote for IE.

I don't have the article myself, but the synopsis that appeared in a 
UPI report had the following points.

LKA said:

 i) that he (and the BJP, by extension) did not want India to be a theocracy,
but wanted to bring about true secularism.
 
ii) that Dec. 6 was "... the most depressing day of [LKA's] life"

iii) India was a country which was grounded in a Hindu ethos and that for
the past 40 years the ruling parties had tried to get us to "disown the
country's essential character." He also did some judicious Congress-bashing
for indulging in minority-appeasement for building a Muslim vote-bank.

I am hunting to see if I can locate a copy of the original UPI news article. 
If I get it, I'll cut out the relevant part and post it on the net.


|> ---Vipul Kashyap

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Well Wishes
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:20:45 GMT


Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!



Stop reading stuff on the net for God's sake. It's Christmas!! :)



Rakesh Patel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian