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From: mce5921@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Martin Emde)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: yet another lighting system
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:42:05 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <1992Oct14.100918.1@research.ptt.nl> walvdrk_r@research.ptt.nl (Kees van der Wal) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.184430.28037@col.hp.com>, arnie@col.hp.com (Arnie Berger)
>writes: 
>
>wise thing to do. Of course I'd like to switch on the generator only on the 
>downhill parts. In some terrain that will result in an irregular cycle of 
>loading (downhill) and not loading (uphill). Does the -dv/dt method still work 
>under such conditions?

How about creating a simple circuit that will automatically switch the
generator on when going down hill.  Perhaps one of those mercury filled
motion swiches would work.  Combine that signal with > x MPH signal from
your cyclometer such that it only comes on when going down hill and going
faster than x MPH....

-Martin

>
>Regards, <kees>


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Boeing Commercial Airplane Group - 777 Electrical Systems
Renton, Washington  USA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: arnie@col.hp.com (Arnie Berger)
Subject: Re: yet another lighting system
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:44:30 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division





vandeweg@bbn.com (Mike Vande Weghe) writes:
> arnie@col.hp.com (Arnie Berger) writes:
> 
> >Lead acid batteries
> >like to be charged from a constant voltage source. This is in contrast to
> >Ni-Cads, which like to be charged with a constant voltage.
> 
> Did you mean for one of these to be "constant current source", perhaps?
> 
> -mike




Sorry, for the typo, Mike is correct. The NiCads want to be charged from a
constant current source and, for best results and long life, charging
should be terminated once the cell voltage reaches a maximum and then
starts to fall. This is known as the -dv/dt method . A new company,
called Benchmarq , is producing a NiCad battery charger chip which will
perform all the functions necessary to build a NiCad battery charger with
minimal external support circuitry. I don't have any experience with it,
I've just looked at their data sheets.
-- 
Arnie Berger
arnie@col.hp.com
Telnet 719-590-5642
From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:00:42 GMT
Subject: Re: custom lighting systems
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: clipless pedal options
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:58:36 GMT

ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>In article <16035@mindlink.bc.ca> Gerry_Furseth@mindlink.bc.ca (Gerry Furseth) writes:
>>One more vote for "I can't ride without Time."
>>Time pedals are the difference between the couch and climbing on the big
>>chain ring.
>Could some please tell me why Time is so great?  I am new to clipless pedals,
>my Trek 5200 came with Look 196(?) Carbon pedals.  Why are the Time superior?
>I also saw a Mavic pedal where you could adjust the amount of heel rotation
>from 0 to 10 degrees (in 1 degree increments).  I thought that was pretty
>cool.  It certainly could make it easier to get out of these beasts.  Of course
>they did weigh about 500 grams which is about 100grams more than the Look or
>Time (400grm)
>Ron Feigen
>ronf@panther.mot.com
Time pedals offer lateral movment better than just about any pedal out
there.  Mavic are close but no cigar, plus they're ugly and heavy.  The Look
ARC cleats aren't even close.  I rode Look and then Shimano Dura-Ace clipless
pedals for a long time before using Time.  Riding Time was a reelation in
comfort becasue of the free movement they allow.  They also made my knee
problems disappear.  On the negative side it is hard to get them cheap
unless you get the new plastic kind that deosn't look very sturdy.  Also
they don't make a mountain bike Time pedal which I think is a major sin
in these days of Mountain Bike Dominance of the market. If possible try
a pair and see what you think.
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: andre@avalanche.Canada.Sun.Com (Andre Giroux # let me outta here)
Subject: clipless pedals comments needed
Reply-To: andre@avalanche.Canada.Sun.Com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:32:34 GMT

Hi...

Myself and a bunch of friends are currently debating what gizmo we are going
to buy next for our MTBs. I was going for forks, but they seem to go for the
clipless pedals with the shimano shoes. 

anybody has any comments on those? what would you buy first? do they worth the
investment (170$cdn for Xt pedals, plus 100$cdn for the shoes, plus 15.56% tax !) ?
what has helped you more in your riding (considering cross-country/downhill mix) ?

tks

andre


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From: piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: motorists
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:39:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <8OCT199216121832@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes...


>Where I work, I have to go down a rather steep hill every morning and 

It's not *that* steep, and it's less than 0.5mile long. 

>evening... I *routinely* have to take extra care to not hit wobbly cyclists 
>trying to ride down the side of this washboard road on a hill *clearly* 
>marked with a sign that says "Walk bicycles down hill". It's not the delay 

That sign is a real problem. The road is narrow (maybe 10 foot lanes, though
this is a guess), with no shoulder. There is nowhere at the side of the road
to walk a bike. If someone walks a bike - surprise - that person will
still be in the way of cars, and will be even slower. An adult cyclist 
accustomed to cycling in traffic is far safer riding that hill. 

When you refer to wobbly cyclists, does that refer to all the cyclists
you see? One of those is me; I ride that hill every day coming to work.
I'm sure you've seen me; I'm the one on the fairly garish mountain bike.
There are several other Lewis employees who also ride that hill. I hope
we aren't wobbly.

Since that road passes an entrance to a nearby park, yes there are
other riders on that road - but not usually during peak commuting hours.

>that bothers me ... it's not the extra care that their stupidity demands of 
>me that bothers me ... it's the fact that *their* careless behavior might 
>cause me to seriously injure another human being the *really* bothers me. I 

Um, have you noticed Brookpark police outside the gate? I think they're
there because a substantial number of motorists - enough so the residents
have complained -  routinely drive above the posted 25mph speed limit.
With the blind curves on the road anything over 25mph is careless 
behavior. Their careless behavior can seriously injure me.

OK, this post has stooped to the same behavior - ranting about the poor
behavior of some other group. It doesn't solve anything, does it? How
about some consideration? For the roughly 0.5 mile extent of that road,
does it really cost you so much effort to give cyclists a bit more room?


Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: walvdrk_r@research.ptt.nl (Kees van der Wal)
Subject: Re: Encouraging Commuting by Bike
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:38:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.155123.19217@trintex.uucp>, elr@trintex.uucp (Ed Ravin)
writes: 

> Let's have some more
> examples -- I hope everyone out there will post whatever programs
> their employers have in place so the rest of us can use those good
> examples to persuade our employers to do the same...

In Holland having a company car is quite common for some types of jobs. It's
however heavily taxed if used for private purposes (add 20% of the cars
catalogue value to your income every year). Also travel allowances for
commuting are heavily taxed if it's more than a modest amount (depends on
the home-work distance).

Since a few years some companies offer the use of company bikes: you get a 
brand new bike (instead of travel allowances for commuting). Originally the tax
authorities applied the same rules as for private use of company cars. That's
not so attracktive as (depending on your tax level) you pay every year 10% of
the bike's price in tax. Recently the tax rules have been changed. I don't 
remember the details but the result is that simple (cheap) bikes are tax-free, 
expensive types are still taxed but not that heavily.

Having a bike park on the companies premises is quite common. I only once heard 
a story about a company providing a _guarded_ bike park and free repair and 
maintenance service (you only pay for the replaced parts). 

Regards, <kees>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: "Michael Smith" <p00004@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Commuting in rain
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:57:46 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>DATE:   11 Oct 92 22:14:19 GMT
>FROM:   zaphod beeblebrox <miliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>
>
>Hello.  I was wondering, how do all you folks deal with commuting in
>the rain?[....] What I haven't figured out was how to keep my feet
>and books dry. 

I wrap the stuff in my knapsack in plastic bags when rain threatens. The 
pack gets wet, the stuff doesn't. As for the shoes, I keep office shoes 
at -- where else -- the office and cycle in a pair of old sneakers. The 
sneakers get wet, but I change out of them when I arrive. 

--Michael Smith


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: Performance mail-order bikes - opinions?
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:41:06 GMT

In <92286.123132IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jon Carr) writes:

>Don't do it.  You might get lucky, but why take the chance.
>They may say the bike is DX equipped, but in all likelyhood
>(I've seen a few Performance's in my time) they only use
>Shimano levers and derailuers.  The rest of the bike (headset,
>BB, etc.) will be cheap Taiwanese junk.

Actually, the catalog specs Deore DX for derailleurs,
shifters, hubs, and cranks.  The BB is a Shimano sealed
cartridge, but they don't say which.  Headset is Tioga
Avenger 1-1/8", which I would consider a slight disadvantage
because oversized headsets limit your fork, headset, and
stem selection.

Performance appears no different from most manufacturers:
their low end bikes have cheap components and hi-ten stays,
but their more expensive bikes have better quality all
around.

I have no personal experience with Performance bikes, but
the Tangent specs look good for the price range: oversized
Tange double-butted CrMo tubing, Deore DX, hyperglide, Vantage
Comp rims, Dia Compe 986 brakes, Zoom stem and bars, etc.

Note the catalog does say specs subject to change w/o
notice, so if you're really paranoid about bait & switch you
might ask.
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 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor.  NextMail OK
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From: larson9627@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: bar ends and more.
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:12:25 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Got a question concerning the "extenders" used for mounting bar-ends.  The
extenders fit inside of the handlebar and the bar-ends clamp on as usual.  Is
this really a good idea??

Also, i would like to know some theories on seat positioning for mountain
bikes, is it the same as for other bikes or something special??

thanks,

larson9627@iscsuax.uni.edu
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:23209 misc.forsale:28764
From: kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,misc.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: Klein Rascal w/Rock Shox + Accesories for sale...
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:22:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: pogo.13776
Followup-To: rec.bicycles
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

Hi folks,

  Well, as the subject line indicates I am selling my beloved Klein.
Why, you ask, would anyone ever sell their Klein?  Well, don't ask.
Actually I'm not particularly fond of the idea, but over the last
year or so mountain biking just hasn't been there for me.  And I
need the money to help finance an investment.  OK the details...

1991 Klein Rascal, 19" inch frame.
     Shimano Deore-XT components all around (overbar shifters...)
     Rock Shox
     Profile XC Durango bars.
     Shimano M737 Clipless pedals.  (size 9 shoes if you want them..)
     Cateye Mt Bike computer. (No altimeter, everything else...)
     One set of Ground Control Extreme tires
     One set of Tioga City Slicker tires
     Campy rims.
     Various accesories and tools, too.

This is a beautiful bicycle.  It's got a custom black/magenta fade
paint scheme, and the rock shox are also black with magenta decals.
I've taken very good care of this bike, cleaned and lubed it after
every ride, and gave it the occasional wax job too.  And like I
said earlier I haven't been biking much in the last year so I would
guess that the bike has less than 500 miles on it.  Any bids....

Oh, the price...

After it was all said and done I figured I put about $2600 dollars
into this bike.  So I'll start by asking $1,800. 

Since I don't have the time these day to read news, email any
responses to me at:

kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com

or call me at:

(503) 685-3028 days
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Kevin Jon Mills ('92 CBR600F2 CYBIKE)           kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com
"I'm convinved, you'll never stop looking for ways to kill yourself."
                                                            -- My Mom
From: danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Avocet 30 for sale
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:46:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

James W Gourgoutis writes:

>>>>I got a Catseye Cordless, so I have my old Avocet 30 to sell.  It's
>>>>blue, and about one year old.  I still have the box and instructions.
>>>>
>>>>I'm asking $15.  Please reply my e-mail...
>>>
>>>You can have mine for $12 and its only 6 mos old.  And for another $4
>>>I'll throw in a rear wheel sensor, never used.  Postage not included.
>>
>>Yeah, well that $15 for mine includes postage, so there! :-)
>
>	I don't get this...when I first started reading this newsgroup, there
>were only praises for Avocet computers...every other kind had either this or 
>that wrong with it, or it had a crummy display, or it couldn't withstand any
>vibrations, etc.  So when I bought a computer, I made sure it was an Advocet.
>I have a model 40, and I love it.  My girlfriend has a Vetta C-100 on her bike, 
>and it sucks (at least I think so).
>	The only problem I've had with my Advocet 40 is that the clock runs a
>little fast.  Like 10 minutes every 3 or 4 months.  But this doesn't bug me, 
>since I wear a wristwatch while I ride, anyway.
>	Hey, if nothing's wrong with it, I'll buy your Advocet 30 for $15...I
>need a computer for my new MTB.  Blue's even the color I want.

My problem with the Avocet 30 (actually 31, is there a difference?) is 
functionality.  What I don't care for:

	* Current speed is a mode of its own.
	* To start/stop you must press *on* on miles mode, press to time mode
	  press *on* on time mode.  Same to stop.
	* There is no acknowledgement that you have pressed *on* on.  It
	  obvious in the time mode, but not in miles mode.  
        * Miles are by tenths.
	* no option for auto start/stop.

Please correct me if I'm wrong with any of the above.  I never read the
owners manual. :-)

Dan Jones
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.soc
From: thomas@bitrot.in-berlin.de (Thomas Driemeyer)
Subject: Re: bike locks
Organization: Thomas Driemeyer, Berlin
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:34:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.045403.12714@trintex.uucp> elr@trintex.uucp (Ed Ravin) writes:
>You should always use two different kinds of locks in high-theft
>areas like New York City -- for example, one U lock and a separately
>locked cable / padlock.  Thieves don't usually bring the different kinds
>of tools needed to break different kinds of locks.

I am using a motorcycle cable lock made by Abus, and sold in bike stores
here. It consists of an 8mm one-meter cable with a massive chain of
interlocking steel rings around it. The theory is that you have to break
through the steel to get at the cable, which requires a different tool.
With the transparent plastic coating, it looks like something straight
out of a Batman movie.

The lock itself has a rotating disc with a slit for the key. If someone
tries to drill the lock, the bit will grab the disc and simply spin it.
Another nice thing is that it is just long enough that I can step into
the ring and pull it up to my waist. I hate these rattling U-lock clamps.

Thomas
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Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:23045 wi.forsale:381 misc.forsale:28158
From: bnk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Bob N Keenan)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,wi.forsale,misc.forsale
Subject: **BRAND NEW BIKE NASHBAR HELMET FOR SALE**
Date: 8 Oct 1992 15:19:11 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: bnk@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


FOR SALE
--------

I have an unused (brand-new never worn) NASHBAR bike helmet I dont
need any more.  I have covered it with racing  stickers so it wouldnt
be just bland plain red.  Its size MD/LG (Nashbar measurements) 
I think I paid like $39 for it, Ill sell it for $25 + shipping.



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~ University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee | KNOW HER!!!            
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: Schwinn files for Chapter 11 protection
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:27:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.125907.4806@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> jdu@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (john.d.unruh) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.121924.14812@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> whalen@starch.enet.dec.com (Rich Whalen) writes:
>>
>>In article <BvtLxG.ILA@Novell.COM>, kbest@doc.novell.com (Karl Best) writes:
>>The news story that I heard this morning (on NPR) said that they were still
>>looking for a partner.  The story did comment that Schwinn had fallen on hard
>>times because they hadn't kept up with Huffy and Murray.  Huffy and Murray do
>>well because they sell their product in department stores, whereas Schwinn
>>depends upon its dealer network.  Schwinn feels that it provides better
>>service to its customers this way, but it has lost market share.

According to the article I read it was bacause of Trek and specialize (just read
it 15 mins. ago).

Big difference between Trek and Huffy, No?

-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
From: edelosh@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Edward Delosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Specialized Transition
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:18:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Anyone know anything about the Allez Transition?  I came across one at
an incredible price while calling around about the Allez Comp.  The
closeout price brought the bike well within my price range, but I know
nothing about the bike since I did my research on lower end models.
About the only thing I know about it is that it is equipped with the Shimano
600 group.  Any info would be appreciated!
--

Ed DeLosh 
Purdue University 
edelosh@psych.purdue.edu
From: chism@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Wayne Chism)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: info on bike rack for nissan pathfinder needed
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:50:03 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO

Here's an option that you didn't mention.  I don't know if you
tow with your pathfinder, and if you do, if you happen to have
a two inch receiver type hitch . . . but if you do, a hitch 
mounted bike rack beats both roof racks and tire racks for such
a vehicle.  I'd be using one myself on my Chevy Blazer, except
that it's hard to haul a tandem that way - had to put it on the
roof (with a Thule system mounted onto the factory rails).

Good luck.

Wayne
From: gustave@ada.seas.ucla.edu (Gustave R. Stroes)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: motorists
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:33:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

I don't usually read this group but this time I did I came 
apon some interesting articles.  I go to UCLA and have been riding
both mountain bikes and road bikes throughout this area
for over 5 years.  During all that time the only incident I've
had was with a bus and that was my fault as much as his cause
I woud'nt move either (did'nt crash, just scraped my watch).
Before you guys out there start bagging on motorists why don't
you first look at yourselves.  Do you obey ALL trafic rules
when you ride a bike?  Or do you think, like most cyclists
that a bicycle is somehow exempt from stop signs and such.
When your through examining yourself, look to the other cyclists
that you share the road with.  If your area is anything like mine
then most of these cyclists are bozos who treat a bicycle as if
it were some kind of toy.  No wonder most motorists are bothered by cyclists
since the chances are that the ones they come accross just blew 
through the stop sign that the motorist just stopped for!  I see this happen all the time and it pisses me off because the behaviour of these
buffoons might make a motorist take his frustration out on me
next time.  I think you'll find that if you show respect for
cars and act responsibly you'll be suprised at the change in
how the "average" motorist will treat you.  Yes it is a natural response
for ANYBODY using roads to want that road for themselves without
any interruptions.  Cyclists are just as guilty of it as motorists.
We should all try to keep that in mind when we ride.

P.S. I do sympathise with those of you who live in areas where
motorists (usually in pickups right?) just hate cyclists
out of pure ignorance.   
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: "Michael Smith" <p00004@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: roads & inconsiderate motorists
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:02:01 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>DATE:   Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:34:48 GMT
>FROM:   Marc San Soucie <marcs@slc.com>

>This is a repost - you must have missed it before.
[depressingly familiar story of motorist harassment deleted]
>....we called the 
>Sherriff and reported him [....] He advised us that there was little
>chance of any charges being filed, but that he would go talk to the fellow
>(who turns out to live not far away) about the situation.

Thanks for the repost. Actually, I *did* see it before. I'm glad you 
came away from the incident with a good feeling about the Sheriff, and 
it certainly is unusual, and positive as far as it goes, that he was 
sympathetic at all; the more usual law-enforcement attitude seems to be 
"Whaddya expect? Get a car."

But. But. I can't put it on the plus side of the ledger. Nothing was 
done to the guy, and with all due respect to the Sheriff, his vague 
promise to "talk to the fellow" reminds me of the old canard, which I 
have heard attributed to Sam Goldwyn, Yogi Berra, and others, that "A 
verbal contract ain't worth the paper it's written on."

Hope this doesn't seem too cynical, but cops are past masters at 
soothing the ruffed feathers of the citizenry with vague assurances. 
Then they head straight for the doughnut shop and forget the whole 
thing. 

--Michael Smith