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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:25:23 CDT
From:         dene grigar <ACA102@UTDALLAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Computer programming in the Humanities

Please send me more information.
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 11:03:55 CDT
From:         "David H. Roberts" <DHROBERT@SAMFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: list of fem. lists?

Here's a list of fem lists I know of:

BIFEM-L AT BROWNVM
FEMINIST AT MITVMA
FEMREL-L AT UMCVBM
FEMSEM AT SBCCVM
EDUCOM-W AT BITNIC
WIM-L AT IUBVM
WMST-L AT UMDD

Actually, they may not be feminist lists per se, but deal with women's
issues.

dave roberts  <dhrobert@samford>
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:34:04 EDT
From:         Mary Alm <T270102@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: list of fem. lists?

Dickie (and whoever else is interested):
I'm off to Asheville, NC, for the weekend.  Will put the feminist network
list on-line to you first thing next week.  --Mary
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:38:12 -0400
From:         R_CONNORS@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Subject:      RE: rhet & architecture

David, you might refer your colleague to the work of Lewis Mumford, whose
discussions of architecture are not specifically rhetorical but are very
much informed by audience issues.

Let me say here, by the way, that I thought Dick Larson sandbagged your
book in the recent CE article.  He's a hard man.  I think it's a fine
book, much to be admired, and I hope his review doesn't get you down.
Sometimes Dick reminds me of Mikey in the old cereal commercial.  "Give
it to Mikey--he hates everything!"  So don't bum out.

Best, Bob C.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:20:19 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: help getting onto mbu

On Thu, 9 Apr 1992, HOCHMAN@STARBURST.USCOLO.EDU wrote:
`> I would like to begin subscribing to MBU but when I send my
> request to listserv@ttuvm1.bitnet  I don't get through.  Is
> there something else I need to do because I'm on internet?
> Thanks in advance,
> Will Hochman

Perhaps whoever tells Mr. Hochman to get *on* the list will be kind enough
to help me get *off*.  I have sent several "unsubscribe" and "signoff"
messages with no success.  I would appreciate your help.
Nancy Harwood
harwood@tenet.edu
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:48:31 MST
From:         Martin Rosenberg <ATMER@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: (Fwd: *C&CD*) Time wasted on e-mail (11)

Rob R:  Pulll-eeee-zzee tell me how to get on the Zappa List!!!!!!!!!
        I want to wax eloquence over "Weasels Rip My Flesh"!

How did I get on email?  its Dave Scwhalm's fault, and I bet he's rueing the da
y!  Who have I gotten on email?  Noone.  They see that its people like me who g
et on and they don't want to have nuttin' to do wid it.

                                                 best.........mer

Martin E. Rosenberg (atmer@asuacad)
Department of English
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-0302
1-602-965-3168.
"I'll do anything/To get out of going through all these things twice!"
--Bob D.
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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1992 21:38:53 -0700
From:         freeland@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Thanks

I've been away on break, so did not see your original posting, but like to add
When Heaven and Earth Change Places by LeLy Hoyslip, on the Vietnamese War
from Vietnamese perpsective.  There's also a moving documentary, Tranh's
War, available through University of California Extension, UC Berkeley.  Sounds
like a challenging task, expecially to get outside most of the war

pieces, i.e. Dispatches, that interpret in terms of yound men's "coming
of age" (sorry-young).  LeLy's memoir is a moving counterpoint to that
view.  I've always found Patton's Farewell Address to the Third Army is
a piece that, though brief, illustrates central metaphors for how men
are to pass through this initiation and become heros.  Mary Jane Freeland,
UC Berkeley
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 10:14:00 EDT
From:         "Composition Digest (Robert Royar,
              Moderator)" <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
Subject:      (Fwd: *C&CD*) Net Interchange (2)

Date:          Sun, 12 Apr 1992 09:31:12 EDT
From:          BITNET%"R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET"  Robert Royar (C&CD Moderator)
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Reply-to:      BITNET%"R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET"  Robert Royar
Organization:  Department of English, New York Institute of Technology

The speed of the Shivas was 9600 baud.  That's the minimum speed for Internet
nodes.  Although some nodes run at 19200 baud or better, once you jump through
a 9600 baud node, you've effectively lost your speed advantage. I'd suspect
that the NYIT example was faster than what you could expect on Internet given
our proximity to AT&T's main trunk lines.  Probably FTP connected directly on
one (dedicated) leased line to one other site could run at 9600 faster than the
demo did, but if you've got to do that, it might be cheaper to install your own
fiber optic backbone to the remote site and run ethernet or something on it.

The demo was not that slow--about the same speed as RTW on a 10-net lan.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:23:00 EDT
From:         "Composition Digest (Robert Royar,
              Moderator)" <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
Subject:      (Fwd: *C&CD*) use of electronic texts in composition/literature
              courses (9)

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 23:20:23 PDT
From: 08-Apr-1992 0922 <seltzer@ics.enet.dec.com>
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Subject: use of electronic texts in composition/literature courses (9)
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I'd be interested in finding out if anyone is using electronic texts in
composition classes, and if so how they are using them and how well that has
worked.

There are many classic works of literature available for free in electronic
form by ftp from Gutenberg and other projects.  These works include complete
Shakespeare, the Bible, Wuthering Heights, Heart of Darkness, the Federalist
Papers, Paradise Lost, Alice in Wonderland.  The numbers are growing rapidly.

I could easily imagine downloading some of these to floppy disks, giving them
to students, and then giving them assignments to rewrite, reorganize, or
modernize the language of particular sections.  I believe that such
assignments could help them arrive at a closer understanding of the original
and at the same time exercise their creative/composition talents.

Is anyone doing anything like that?

Best wishes.

Richard Seltzer

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:29:23 CDT
From:         RE781EN <RE781EN@TCUAMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: for Susan Herring

Dean,

Not only did Ed hear you, I heard you all the way in Fort Worth.

Debbie
re781en.tcuamus
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:08:05 EDT
From:         Greg DiMedio <T270100@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: software question
              8 Apr 1992 11:27:58 -0400 from <eng_allen@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU>

Nancy,
I purchased the American Heritage Dictionary software package through a special
offer.  I find that I don't use it that often.  It takes up a large amount of
conventional memory (below 640k) and this might pose a problem for you if you h
ave a limited amount of conventional memory to run programs.  My PC has 2 MB of
 memory, but I don't believe that I can send the program up into higher memory.
The program sits in memory until you activate it with a combination of key
strokes.  So you can check your spelling or look up a word when using almost
any software program.

The definitions are somewhat short and limited.  For example, I looked up the
word "demise" to see if it was an appropriate word to convey what I was
thinking.  Well, the definition popped up as "DEATH."  This definition is a
simple one, limited in scope.

It does do some neat things.  For example, it will unscramble mixed up words
and also help solve crossword puzzles (filling in the missing letters).  But I
guess the most beneficial aspect might be having a spell checker while you are
composing online (that is if you are concerned about spelling in your informal
correspondence).

If you have the memory and would like a spell checker and definitions at anytim
e, then maybe it will be worth the purchase.  You'll need a nice
chunk of hard drive space (about 1.5 MB), and a CPU that operates at a decent
speed.  Be glad to run a few tests for you and give you further details.

- Greg DiMedio   T270100@UNIVSCVM
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 12:20:15 EST
From:         "deborah s. bosley" <FEN00DSB@UNCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Feminist list

Mary, if you hear of such a network, please let me know.  I found a citation fo
r one about six months ago, but buried it among papers, and it's lost forever.
I'm working on an article on feminism and technical communication and am VERY i
nterested in "talking" with other women.  Thanks!
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 09:21:00 CDT
From:         NAME 'DEAN FONTENOT' <GJDHF@TTACS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: for Susan Herring

reply
answer
phone answer

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phone answer
e

Ed.  As you usual I have no idea what I'm doing.  If you get this let me know.
From: vsf@MACE.CC.PURDUE.EDU (Bob Child)
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Yeeha!  Let's hope this proves to be as valuable as it looks...

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>    trained--faculty, staff, and students?  Who provides support for
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    Bob Child  --==--==--<>--==--==--  Department of English
	       vsf@mace.cc.purdue.edu
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:46:33 EDT
From:         Mary Alm <T270102@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Synopsis of feminist lists

As promised to Dickie, et alia--
     FEMREL-L @ UMCVMB (feminism and religion list)
     FEMSEM @ SBCCVM (Stony Brook Feminist Philosophy List)
     WWP-L @ BROWNVM (Brown University Women Writer's Project)
     BIFEM-L @ BROWNVM (no description)
     EDUCOM-W @ BITNIC (Technology and Education Issues of Interest to Women)
     FEMAIL @ HPLABS.HP.COM (intended to provide a forum for discussion of
          issues of interest to women in a friendly atmosphere)
          To join, write FEMAIL-REQUESTS%HPLDLH @ HPLABS.HP.COM
     FEMINIST @ MITVMA (owned by the Feminist Task Forceof the American Library
          Assoc.)
     GENDER @ RPIECS (Discussion of questions and issues pertaining to the
          study of communication and gender)
          COMSERVE @ RPIECS
     MAIL-MEN @ATTUNIX.ATT.COM (Discussion about men's issues)
          To join, write MAIL-MEN-REQUESTS @ ATTUNIX.ATT.COM
     WIML-L @ IUBVM (Women's issues)
     WMST-L @ UMDD (Intended primarily to serve the academic and professional
          needs of people involved with Women's Studies as teachers, researcher
          and/or program administrators.)
     Women's Studies Usenet Newsgroups
          soc.women
          soc.men
          soc.feminism
          soc.gender-issues
That's it!  Everyone's contributions have been catalogued.  Thanks to everyone
involved.  Mary Alm, Univ. of S.C.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:05:19 EDT
From:         Mary Alm <T270102@UNIVSCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      South Atlantic MLA meeting in Knoxville

Question:  Can anyone tell me of a section at SAMLA next November that would
be interested in a paper on a new approach to the keeping of writing journals
by freshman composition students?

I know of an Advanced Writing Section (which proposals are being sent to Gary
Olson at U. of South Florida) but don't know of a Freshman Comp. Section or
similar category.

I know; I know.  Proposals are due April 15.  Am sending mine to Gary Olson
unless someone can tell me of a more appropriate venue.

Thanks.  Mary Alm, Univ. of S.C.
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 12:16:07 CDT
From:         Eric Crump <LCERIC@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: distance Interchange sessions

On Sat, 11 Apr 1992 12:56:49 EDT <rselfe@MTU.EDU> said:
>Fred,
>Is there some software that would allow an Internet/Bitnet connection to
>act like a modem (like the Shiva) only much faster?  That way anyone who
>had Interchange and an address could potentially log into a synchronous a
>conversation.  Do you know anyone working on such things?  It's gotta be
>possible.
>
I know you're talking about something a bit different, Dickie--using
Interchange over the Internet, right? --but there is of course already
a way to conduct synchronous conferences over the network via Internet
Relay Chat. It's notorious for its use as a place for undergrads to
gossip and flirt. But it looks like it has possibilities for more
serious (though not necessarily better) uses. Has anybody ever tried
using IRC to have distant classes communicate?

Eric Crump
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:44:39 EDT
From:         David Sewell <dsew@UHURA.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU>
Subject:      Real-time hypertext (fwd)

(This is a duplicate of a posting to TechNoCulture; I know there's
some overlap in lists, so if you've seen this there, sorry--but I
wanted to reach MBU hypertext experts too.  --DS)
------

Last night several graduate students and I were using Timbuktu (the
screen-sharing program) to read a couple of hypertext documents
together.  We then tried a brief experiment in real-time collaborative
hypertext writing, breaking into groups of two or three and, using
Timbuktu still, editing Storyspace documents together.

Problem was, of course, that only one person could edit at a time, and
then orally "pass the mouse" to the next person.

Now, there is already on the market at least one program, ASPECTS, that
allows for simultaneous editing of a graphics or CAD file or a text file
(the restriction is that only one person can be editing a given
paragraph at a time).  It seems to me that hypertext is a much more
logical form for real-time collaboration than linear writing.  Even if
there were the restriction that only one person at a time could edit a
given space/lexia/card, there'd be tremendous freedom to add links,
open new spaces, and so on, in a web that would grow and alter
continually.

So is anyone working on developing a program that would allow this?  Or
is this just too unspeakably bizarre for anybody to want to mess with?

David Sewell
English Dept, University of Rochester
dsew@cc.rochester.edu
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:32:00 EDT
From:         BURT@BRANDEIS.BITNET
Subject:      for Susan Herring

Would you send me your e-mail address? Thank you for sending the article
that you, Deborah Johnson, and Tamra DiBenedetto wrote. I have a few
comments and questions which I thought I might send to you.
John Burt
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 09:27:06 EDT
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Comments:     Originally-From: ehrlich@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Heyward Ehrlich)
From:         Louie Crew <lcrew@ANDROMEDA.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Hyoertext Poem (Mac)

>Path:
 andromeda.rutgers.edu!rutgers!ub!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!darwin.sura.net
!aplcen.apl.jhu.edu!wb3ffv!ka3ovk!nstar!caen!umcc.ais.org!chungkuo
>From: chungkuo@umcc.ais.org (Shawn FitzGerald)
>Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,rec.arts.int-fiction,alt.postmodern
>Subject: Hypertext Poem for Macintosh via FTP
>Message-ID: <4Bh+Rt_@engin.umich.edu>
>Date: 3 Apr 92 15:16:04 GMT
>Organization: UMCC
>Lines: 19

I have placed a poem of mine in an FTP directory. It was written in
StorySpace (Eastgate Systems), a hypertext authoring environment for the
Apple Macintosh. The file was then converted to a stand alone reader. The
file canbe ported and converted with BinHex 4.0.

The resulting file is self-extracting.

The file requires an Apple Macintosh to run with at least 500K RAM.

It can be found via FTP at irie.ais.org in pub/hypertext

I encourage you to send me any comments.


--
   Shawn FitzGerald           |   chungkuo@ais.org
   (Rational Romantic         |   xxxx
    Mystic Cynical Idealist)  |   UMCC
"Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love." --Woody Allen
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:46:45 EDT
From:         rselfe@MTU.EDU
Subject:      connecting to cyberspace

The most effective things I've done to get people interested in in e-mail
list are

1)  showing foreign lang. faculty how often and easy their students can
talk to others in France on a daily basis.

2)  passing around a 57 page (!!!!!) list of e-mail lists in the
department.  Here's the header I got with the list:

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Network-wide ID  Full address      List title
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'AMALGAM'        AMALGAM@DS0RUS1I  Dental AMALGAM and MERCURY Poisoning
'AMERSTDY'       AMERSTDY@MIAMIU   (Peered) American Studies
'CLIO-L'         CLIO-L@MIAMIU     (Peered) A description of your list goes
here
'CUFS-L'         CUFS-L@MIAMIU     (Peered) A discussion of the CUFS system
.
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.
.

One of the technical consultants in our lab got it.  If anyone is
interested, I'll find out how unless someone already knows.

The most impressive comment was Marilyn Cooper's as I passed it around in
our Radical Pedagogy class:  "Wow, you could drop out of the university and
get your entire education out of this list."  Thats's a bit exaggerated but
. . . .
Dickie Selfe   rselfe@mtu.edu  (NEW ADDRESS!!!)
1400 Townsend--102 Walker
Michigan Technological U.
Houghton, MI  49931
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:57:16 EST
From:         Claire Pedretti <vva@MACE.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Feminist list
              9, 92 8:48 am

Mary,

I can help with two of your requests.

>I'll add my wish to the list of lists.  Does anyone know of a feminist
>network?  Particularly a network for feminist studies in communications?
>Or a women's studies list?

gender@rpiecs.bitnet  is a list on communication and gender that
includes feminist perspectives

wmst-l@umdd.umd.edu    is a list for discussion of woman's studies
programs and classroom issues and syllabi etc

Claire Pedretti
vva@mace.cc.purdue.edu
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:15:11 CDT
From:         "Doris,
              here's how we do it at SAMLA (not that that's carved in stone):
              question? (citation). Karen Gardiner (Asst. Ed.,
              South Atlantic R" <BA1EH639@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: MLA Citation
              12 Apr 1992 18:52:51 -0500 from <dorisann@TENET.EDU>

Doris, here's how we do it at SAMLA (not that it's carved in stone or anything)

question?" (citation).  NOTE:  That's when the question mark is a part of the
quotation rather than belonging to the sentence containing the quotation.

I hope that's helped to make your dilemma as clear as mud (easier to "muddle"
through, that way).

Karen Gardiner, Asst. Ed., South Atlantic Review
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:47:40 CST
From:         ALEVIN@CMSUVMB.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Reply:yacks, collabs, & pedagos

Bob, work on MPA was wonderful.  However, I've been meaning to catch you
because it's been increasingly difficult for me to get on this machine{
unless I come in on Sunday or before eight-thirty.  Since the project
seems to matter so much to you andyour research, don't you think maybe
it's time to write a little researchg rant to get another machine up
here with email capability so your students can get better access, not
to mention your colleagues.

Don't want to rain on your parade, but I do feel uncomfortable constantly
booting off students, and if I'm having trouble getting access, they are too,
no doubt.
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