From: duke@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Duke P. Hong)
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Reply-To: duke@ics.uci.edu (Duke P. Hong)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:04:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.201012.26544@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dhanson@nyx.cs.du.edu (David L. Hanson) writes:
>
>THANK YOU, Mr. Page for this post.  Anyone that has any knowledge at all
>of history (which does not include many of today's misled college
>students) will know that the USA was founded as a CHRISTIAN nation.
>
... by a group of people escaping religious persecution.

>The liberal (and heathen) Warren court overturned two centuries
>of precedence when they banned prayer and the Bible from public schools.
>The first amendment was never intended to separate the CHRISTIAN church
>from the government.  It was ONLY to keep the government out of the
>the church.  Mr. Bush and Mr. Quayle are trying in a small way to do
>what our country's founders wished; that this country would always be
>a Christian nation.  The founders predicted dire consequences if we ever
>leave our Christian faith.  Those consequences are being played out
>before us in our crime rate, baby-killing, family breakups, and homosexuality.
>
Hey, wait a minute. Since, I'm an atheist, why am I not going out right now
committing crimes, killin babies, and having sex with other men?
Unfortunately, there are many people without strong moral values which
is related to but not equivalent to Christianity. All religions teach
basically the same good things: repect for others, don't kill, respect
your elders, etc. Are you telling me that becasue Japan (for example) is not
a Christian country, that they are plagued with a much higher crime rate,
etc. than the U.S.A.?

Secondly, how does homosexuality and family breakups equate to crime,
killing babies? Didn't your revered Ronald Reagan break up his family?
I guess that means he's just a common pagan. Homosexuality has been shown
to be a natural occurance in animals. Doesn't this mean that God intended
for a certain portion of his creations to be homosexuals? Maybe we should
also be putting down those born with Down's syndrome?

>We as a nation are paying and will continue to pay for our sins until and
>unless we return to the one and only true God and to the only Saviour,
>Jesus Christ.  I predict that we have not seen anything yet as far as
>riots and civil insurrection.  Just wait until a few more generations of
>children are raised without fathers, without strong moral teaching
>(how often do I read postings "I am going to let my child decide his
>own religion and values; I don't want to influence him", THEY HAVE GOT
>TO BE JOKING, but woe to us they are not), and without the love AND discipline
>that God intended them to have.

Again, Christianity != strong moral teaching. You can pass strong moral
values without Christianity. You can also have Christian single mothers.

>No government program, no amount of
>money, nothing will make up for a father AND a mother teaching their
>children to obey and live for Jesus Christ.
>
>I hope that others are as sick of I am of a permissive, there is no
>right or wrong society where any stand for decency is attacked and
>mocked.

Actually, I'm sick of the intolerant attitute held by many of the radical
right that want to force their beliefs onto me.

>
>Yes, I will proudly vote for Mr. Bush and for Mr. Quayle.  Even if they
>lose, I know that God will reign forever so I am at peace.
>
Oh brother. Even the head of GHWB's church said that he should not be
mixing God into his political campaign. Actually, I have no choice but
to vote against Bush since he doesn't consider me a citizen or a patriot.
I guess voluntarily joining the Marines to serve my country and putting
my life on the line in the Gulf does not make one a patriot.


>David
>
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Duke P. Hong
duke@valentine.uci.edu