HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Shell escape in less?
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:43:47 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Koblenz (FB Informatik)

In article <59376@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> In article <1992Jul31.212410.18632@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> wasfy@nic.gac.edu  
writes:
> > Whenever I try to use the shell escape in less my  
> > system struggles for about 15 seconds and finally locks.  
> > Has anyone experienced this type of behavior from  
> > less?  If so, does anyone know a workaround?  Thanks in advance!
> 
> I tried this with the intention of disproving that anything was wrong
> with less on the NeXT - as I've found less to a great improvement over more.
> The same thing happened, but I managed to kill the parent shell before
> the crash, barely.  Its true :(

The NeXT (2.1) version of less is very old (v97). It's buggy in just this
place (some memory allocation bug, I think). I compiled the latest
version from the archives (I got v177), changed it a little (as I wanted to
keep the meaning of 'N" and 'P' by default) it it works fine ..

	Detlev
--
Detlev Droege                          | droege@infko.uni-koblenz.de
Universitaet Koblenz,                  |       (NeXTmail ok)
Institut fuer Informatik               | Voice: +49 261 9119-421
Rheinau 3-4, D-5400 Koblenz, Germany   | Fax:   +49 261 9119-499
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jesper@harry.xanthus.se (Jesper Lundh)
Subject: Xanthus LaserMan - Laser Disc Controller for the NeXT
Keywords: Laser, Xanthus, LaserMan, CraftMan
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:29:28 GMT


            Xanthus International Announces 

                      LaserMan

- the Laser Disc Player Controller for the NeXT Computer


(Stockholm, August 13, 1992) Xanthus International AB today announced  
LaserMan, its Laser Disc Player control application for the NeXT computer  
platform.

Aimed at both commercial and in-house corporate multimedia developers,  
LaserMan is an application for controlling  Laser Disc Players from the  
NeXT computer.  LaserMan can control Laser Disc Players either directly  
through a remote control on the computer screen, or through messages from  
other applications via a Speaker/Listener interface.

For example, LaserMan can be used in combination with Xanthus CraftMan -  
the multimedia programming tool from Xanthus - to produce complete Laser  
Disc based multimedia applications in a very short time.

LaserMan can also be used to control other consumer electronics like tape  
recorders and VCRs, and can be configured to control any device with a  
RS-232 interface.

Xanthus International, headquartered in Stockholm, Sweden, is a privately  
owned software development company that specializes in the NeXTSTEP  
platform. LaserMan is the second in a series of general-purpose  
productivity tools for NeXTSTEP. In May 1992 Xanthus started to ship its  
first product CraftMan, the multimedia programming tool for the NeXT  
computer. Xanthus International was founded in 1990.

For more information about LaserMan please contact:

Xanthus International AB
Kungstensgatan 14
S-113 57 Stockholm
Sweden
fax: +46-8-612 89 96
mail: laserman@xanthus.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Subject: Re: Unix ZIP (sorry)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:57:26 GMT


>> zip-1.80g.zip and unzip-5.0m.tar.Z should be there (they are as of 3:20 PST

Warning--these are beta versions.  The real release is imminent (a few
days), so you may want to wait.  When released, I will upload both source
and compiled versions to the usual NeXT ftp sites.

Mark Adler
madler@tybalt.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Reply-To: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:29:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.204351.178605@lexmark.com>  
songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) writes:

> I'd have to agree with this. My current assumption is that 3.0  
is likely
> to be pretty unstable -- I think I'm going to wait for 3.1. If  
this does
> in fact come to pass (I'd like to be wrong) then Next seems to  
be making 
> a habit of this. (I'm sure everyone recalls how stable 2.0 was  
:) Next
> has great software, but the base has to be stable for it to be  
usable.
> 
> Anyway,
> -Chris

I've been beta testing 3.0 PR2, and I think that it is *very*  
stable.  The major gaps are in the documentation.  My guess is  
that 3.0 will be better than most other x.0 releases in the  
computer industry.

--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu    Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364     Dept of Economics
fax:   313-764-2364     Univ of Michigan
                        Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT fonts
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:09:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.035813.29963@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph  
Good) writes:
> 
> ARe there any other FTP archives other than the Sonata one that store
> fonts that are usable on the NeXT's????
> 
> I have all the Sonata ones, and am in a Font Frenzy...

I have some reorganization yet to do, but when it's done,
there will be >many< more fonts on sonata.  I might push
those through a little early, but I've got other things to
do first.  The delays in getting 3.0 have screwed up all my
planning and are likely to make this another difficult
semester.  @#*! 

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 04:27:47 GMT

In article <92Aug19.024710.22093@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca  
(Blake Stone) writes:
> Hello?  Several NeXT employees distinctly stated that several
> features were being pushed back to the 3.1 release at NeXTworld
> Expo.  Cross compilation and fat binaries for example.  

Yes. Several NeXT employees stated that at EXPO and elsewhere.

> And NeXT
> traditionally releases new software to support new hardware
> (ostensibly the reason for 2.1 as well as the only reason for 2.2
> and 1.0a)... 

Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't e.g. ND support.

> does this mean that the NRW is completely supported
> by 3.0?  Or that it won't be out until 4.0 (a minimum of 18
> months away unless they change plans radically).

3.0 includes support for hardware that has not been announced.
 
> On the other hand, I don't expect 3.1 to be necessary for bug
> fixes given the extensive testing.  3.0 won't be bug-free,
> neither is 2.1, but it should be MUCH better than your
> traditional x.0 release from what I've seen.

Yes, it should be much better than traditional X.0 releases, but my own  
opinion is that 3.1 is needed for bug fixes. I expect a decision to be  
made within the next month or so.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
Dan Quayle needs a new running mate.
George Bush undermines his chances of being re-elected Vice President.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:04:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.204351.178605@lexmark.com> songer@lexmark.com  
(Christopher Songer) writes:
> I'd have to agree with this. My current assumption is that 3.0 is likely
> to be pretty unstable -- I think I'm going to wait for 3.1. If this does
> in fact come to pass (I'd like to be wrong) then Next seems to be making 
> a habit of this. (I'm sure everyone recalls how stable 2.0 was :) Next
> has great software, but the base has to be stable for it to be usable.

NeXT is not currently planning a 3.1 release. They would like to be able  
to make 4.0 the next release. I am cynical, but I expect that, eventually,  
the reasons against an interim release will be overcome.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
Dan Quayle needs a new running mate.
George Bush undermines his chances of being re-elected Vice President.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie)
Subject: NS 3.0 Robustness (was Re: NeXTstep 3.0)
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:56:11 GMT

It's good to hear the beta testers praising 3.0 for
its robustness.  From my personal experience, NS 3.0
has a 75% failure rate.  3 out of the 4 demonstrations
that I have seen, performed by NeXT employees, have
resulted in system crashes.

"Uh, I think it's wedged, Bruce."

Stuart

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: skrbec@tophat4.rtsg.mot.com (Brad Skrbec)
Subject: Emacs services
Keywords: emacs services
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:31:26 GMT

I recently got the Emacs app off of the archives, along
with the Emacs_Services patches, which allow the Emacs
frontend to access NeXT services.

Everything seemed to install fine, but when I try to launch
with the new version of the front end as my default edit app,
Emacs autolaunches, but the document is not brought into the
buffer.  It worked before the install of the services patch.

What gives?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Brad
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
| Brad Skrbec       | "For it is the doom of men that they forget." |
| Motorola Cellular     |                         -- Merlin         |
| Arlington Heights, IL | Internet: skrbec@rtsg.mot.com             |
|                       | Home: brad@darby.chi.il.us                |
------------------------------- NeXTMail Gladly Accepted ------------
From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Do you want free objects from FSF?
Keywords: gnu objective-c free fsf
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:52:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.Bt8xvE.1sL
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <59776@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
>The Free Object Foundation needs a FSF Objective C runtime for gcc.
>Is anyone working on one?

Dennis Glatting <dennis_glatting@trirex.com> wrote me, to say that he
donated a reasonable implementation to the FSF, but that it needed
some work.

-- 
Geoffrey S. Knauth, Marble Associates, Inc.                Member BCS-NeXT, LPF
gsk@marble.com, (617) 891-5555 work, (617) 547-5247 home   Standard Disclaimers
From: john@nextdoor.com (John McCracken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTWORLD in Tampa, FL
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:33:14 GMT
Reply-To: john@nextdoor.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Nextdoor Software, San Jose, CA, USA

In article <1992Aug12.174222.325@Princeton.EDU> nextc.Princeton.EDU!mdd (Mark  
D. Doyle) writes:
> Anyone know where a friend of mine can buy a copy of NeXTWORLD in Tampa,  
> Florida?
> 

Why don't you tell him to steal one from San Francisco (like his area is
doing with my baseball team :-(


-- 
 John McCracken                   White Computers
 john@nextdoor.com                  Can't Jump
 NeXTMail welcome
From: ljva@athena.mit.edu (L. James Valverde A. Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Statistical Packages for NeXT?
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:30:40 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


A couple of months ago, there were a few postings on the subject of statistical
analysis packages for the NeXT. I recall that at the time, there was some mention
of S+ being ported over to the NeXT environment. Does anyone have any information
they can share about this. Any other info. concerning stat. packages for the NeXT
would also be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: a74k110@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd)
Subject: PostScript Font Editor ?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:20:33 GMT

Hi,

I have a rather large character set I need to construct for a project
and am in need of a PostScript font editor, and preferably one that has
the ability to do bitmap screen fonts also.

I'd prefer to avoid a Mac/Executor (no offense ARDI) as much as possible,
so if there is anyone out there writing one, I'd be very eager to test/use
and make a lot of suggestions/comments/bug reports etc as I have a pretty
big set to construct.

Anyone have suggestions or do I break out the graph paper?

Thanks,
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for scanner
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:49:31 GMT

What I do: Scan the form with high contrast, line-art at 400dpi.  Save
the image (no compression).  Fire up Appsoft Draw, and use the box tool
to outline the size of the form.  Click "none" from the outline box, so
that the outline goes away.  Make sure the box is selected and use
File->Import->Scale to fit in selected object.  The for is now on your
screen.  Magnify the form by %200 and use the Test tool to fill in the
various parts.

David L. Leon
dleon@seas.smu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bbs@neb (BBS System 801-967-8072)
Subject: Re: Anybody tried Goldstar simms in 25Mhz cubes???
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:06:38 GMT

Absolutely flawless. I have four in my '040 slab.
-----
Posted by BBS User: Kris Magnusson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:54:46 GMT

In article <57135@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes:
> In article <59702@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> > In article <1992Aug13.055619.1064@net23.uucp> coke%net23@spectrx.saigon.com  
> (Brian Policky) writes:
> > > Is there an official release date for NeXTstep 3.0?
> > On Friday, someone at 1-(800)Try-NeXT told me the release date is Aug 24.
> > > And how long before the Universities get it?
> > good question
> 
> I hate to flame, but I'm really tired of hearing this.  I
> feel completely betrayed and more than a little angry.
> 
> Considering our semester starts on the 24th, the 3.0
> release is really too late for me whenever it is.  I got the
> impression from early news of 3.0 that I'd have it up and
> running by now.  The date kept slipping and so did my chance
> of using it any time soon.  
> 
> A big "Boo!  Hiss!" to missing a summer release date.

It's a drag, but I would rather wait for a stable release
than go through the SGI Irix 4.0.3-Irix 4.0.4-Irix 4.0.5
contortions that we've been through since the "release"
of Irix 4.0.

Given the choice, I would have had NeXT make separate
(later) releases of the new packages (dbkit, 3D stuff,
etc) and just work on getting the stable base release out
on time. 

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Recommendation for scanner
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:38:30 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: NeXT Campus Consultant
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey) writes:
: Anybody out there using the HSD Scan-X professional scanner? How well
: does it work? I'm thinking of getting one. Thanks,

I have no connection with HSD whatsoever other than being a completely
satisfied customer.  I have the HSD Scan-X Colour, trying out the new
software as well, and the hardware/software is fantastic.

If you get a colour scanner, something that's fun to try is to scan
your watch, if you have one that's non-digital.  As the second hand
moves, it leaves a three colour trail, it makes some rather cunning
effects if you have a stopwatch as well...

Question about scanning:  I need to scan in a pre printed form, fill
out the bits using something like Create, and then print it out on
the pre printed form...has anyone figured out a way of getting this to
work?  

Until now I scan the form, use create, paste the tiff into a create 
document (which never fits and alaways has to be scaled to A4 size)
add what I want where I want, delete the background tiff, and print on
the form....that always misaligns, either too high, low, left, or
right...

Help?

Scott
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Squash
Date: 16 Aug 92 10:03:18 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Eric P. Scott writes

> Trusting one's data to a proprietary (and unique) scheme strikes
> me as incredibly foolish.

People do this every single day on the Macintosh.  Proprietary formats
are slightly riskier than universal formats like tar and compress, but
it's not as risky as you make it sound.

What exactly is going to happen to my data?  I have a stable system
with compress/uncompress working symmetrically with Squash. There's
not that much that can go wrong.  Besides, I've been doing it for over
a year, and haven't lost a single byte of data.

>  Using it for software distribution is
> questionable at best.

How come?  If you also ship the uncompressor, what makes it "questionable"?

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: shmuli@huji.ac.il (Shmuel Browns)
Subject: LCD wall display for mono NeXTstation??
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Distribution: comp
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:57:37 GMT


   I'm giving a presentation about NeXT workstations to the Israel Unix users
group (AMIX) in September.  I'd really like to prepare the slides on my
NeXTstation and display them (enlarged appropriately on the wall) but even more
I'd like to demo things like IB live. Does anyone have any good ideas or am I
stuck?
   Thanks very much,
      Shmuel
        Shmuel
 ---
Shmuel Browns, NeXT, Macintosh & Unix Technical Support
  Director YIN - Israel NeXT user group
  INTERNET: shmuli@shum.huji.ac.il  FAX: not yet
  VOICE: +972-2-610785   MAIL: 24 Hazefira, Jerusalem  ISRAEL
--
 ---
Shmuel Browns, Macintosh & Unix Technical Support          VOICE: +972-2-585669
  MAIL: Computer Centre, Taylor Bldg, Hebrew University, Jerusalem 91904 ISRAEL
  BITNET: SHMULI@HUJINIX   INTERNET: shmuli@shum.huji.ac.il  FAX: +972-2-527349
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM drive and PC's (Information)
Summary: Using the NeXT CD-ROM drive with a PC.
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:08:09 GMT

I cannot remember where this was originally posted but I have received
enough interest to make a general post. 

The question is--Can the NeXT CD-ROM drive be used with a PC.

Our PC guy did this and here's  the scoop. He just put a Corel SCSI 
card in the PC (a 486 Vectra, but should be good for any PC). It comes 
with its own driver which mounts the CD drive as a PC drive (just plug and go).
Cost: $150.

Charlie


-- 
	NeXTMail to:		|	...to confer, converse, and 
	charlie@technosci.com	|	otherwise hobnob with my    
				|	brother wizards.	    

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nwc@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher)
Subject: Re: Emacs for NeXT
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:47:53 GMT


You want to get Emacs (case is significant there) from one of the
archives.  sonata.cc.purdue.edu has it.  It has mouse support as well
as several other nice features. For one it can become your default
open app and replace Edit as the last resort on the file double click
response chain.

\n
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Subject: Re: Printing on Macs and NeXTs
Reply-To: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Organization: Digital Technology, International
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 16:33:30 GMT

In article <9208180831.AA512500@nike.calpoly.edu>  
mrothste@NIKE.CALPOLY.EDU (Mont Egan Rothstein) writes:
> Recently I saw a post describing the Mac IIf printer as being superior  
to
> the NeXT printer.  At the time I was tempted to respond but didn't.  I  
just
> read a post comparing an even lower Mac printer to a NeXT printer. (I  
for
> the life of me can't remember what the printer was but they listed the  
edu price as 6 hundred and something).  At this point I have to respond.
> 
> I have a unique experience.  I worked in our school bookstore computer  
dept.
> This gave me access to many well configured machines and often nothing  
to do.
> At one time I decided to try an experiment; I wanted to print an EPS and 
> a TIFF image on both a Mac and a NeXT, the same images.  The Mac was a  
Quadra
> with 64MB and a IIf printer, the NeXT was a NeXTstation Color wityh 20MB  
and
> a NeXT 400dpi printer.  I won't go into the grusome stories of moving  
the imagesfrom one computer to the other.  The result was that the NeXT  
won on speed
> with both images (I don't have the times).  The NeXT also won in image  
quality
> even with the IIf's supposed simulated 600dpi and 64 levels of gray the  
NeXT
> looked noticeably (sp?) better (i.e. those around who compared could  
tell the
> difference when asked to compare).  So enough of the Mac better for less  
b/w
> printing stuff.
> 
> As a side when the same images were printed on a HP IIIp with PCL5 and  
Image
> Enhancing the difference was less.
> 
> -Mont
> (sorry no NeXTmail) -When reading the recent Q193 date for NeXTSTEP/486  
I
>                      was nearly brought to tears :(


I am running NeXTSTEP 3.0 Beta here at work.  We have a large number  
Macintosh's also on the net, as well as a number of printers that are  
being used by the Macintosh's.  All of those printers are directly  
accessable to me via the net with NeXTSTEP 3.0.  So, as a test....

I printed a fairly complex postscript image to: (1) a LaserWriter Plus,  
(2) a LaserWriter IINTX, (3) a Varityper VT-600 (true 600 DPI--not some  
LED-pulse simulation on a 300 DPI engine), and (4) the NeXT Laser.

The result: the NeXT laser output quality stomped everybody but the  
Varityper.  Interestingly enough, some people thought the NeXT output  
looked as good or better than the Varityper.

Oh, and the performance results: the NeXT laser printer stomped everybody.

So, anybody that says ANY of the Apple laser printers are comparable to  
the NeXT just doesn't know what their talking about in my opinion.



--
NeXTmail preferred!
-- 
---
root	                               root@dtint.dtint.com
Digital Technology Int.                (801)226-2984	
500 W. 1200 South, Orem UT, 84057      FAX (801) 226-8438
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 04:23:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.024152.2336@nic.umass.edu>  
a74k110@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd) writes:
> Unlness 3.0 runs on every piece of hardware they will have between 3.0  
and
> 4.0 (i.e. no new hardware until 4.0) then I'd expect 3.x releases if not
> just for new hardware.  They would be silly not to fix bugs in these
> releases.....

They may still call it 3.0 and not fix any bugs. This is what they did  
with ND support--there was a second release of 2.1 without any bug fixes.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
Dan Quayle needs a new running mate.
George Bush undermines his chances of being re-elected Vice President.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine)
Subject: TheBigMouth
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:20:27 GMT

Can someone tell me how to use TheBigMouth?  The copy I got contained no  
README.:-(
---
Roy SeGuine  NeXT Cyberspace Architech 
*many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased* Dan12:4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc