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From: harling@ROADRUNNER.PICTEL.COM (Dan Harling)
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Subject: Re: Movies & Ratings
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:41:47 GMT
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> Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:29:29 -0700 (MST)
> From: Usenet/Netnews Moderator <FOCMCB@asuvm.inre.asu.edu>
> Subject: Re: Movies & Ratings
> To: Multiple recipients of list CHRISTIA <CHRISTIA@asuvm.inre.asu.edu>
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
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> >From: cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb)
> >Subject: Re: Movies & Ratings
> >Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
> >Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:40:05 GMT
>
> In line with what Darren said, wasn't Jesus a republican?

Well, Jesus did eat with Republicans and sinners, didn't he?  :-)
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                   PictureTel Corp. (so there!)
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:03:12 -0500
From:         "jones, mark" <JMJONES@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Last night's Rush Limbaugh Show
              21 Jan 1993 14:06:34 -0500 from <AMZIMM01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

In response to Angela Zimmerman on Rush:
This brings me to a point I have been wondering about. I actually
know very little about Rush. Does he make any profession of faith
in Christ? I attended a Full Gospel Businessmen's Advance last weekend
and one of the guest speakers mentioned that we should pray for Rush
to be saved and filled with the Holy Spirit. Anyone know where ol'
Rush stands?

I liked Rush better when it was just the name of Geddy Lee's band.
Anyways.......Mark
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:19:12 EST
From:         "SHELBY A. CROSS" <LIBSAC@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE:PRAYER REQUEST FOR GUIDANCE-KERRY

Dear Kerry,

We will be holding you up in prayer during this difficult situation.  I have
learned that to receive guidance in your walk with the Lord, you receive it
from His Word the Bible and from the Holy Spirit.  He will lead and guide you
into all truth.  Prov. 3:5-6 says "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and
lean not to thine own understanding.  In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He
will direct your paths."  The steps of a righteous man are ordered by the Lord.
These are promises and you need to rely heavily on God.  This christian life
is designed by Him and Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith.  He will
never steer you wrong.  Where man fails - God never fails.  God will never
leave you or forsake you.

Dear Heavenly Father,
We ask that You give Kerry Your wisdom, knowledge, and understanding in this
situation.  Please lead and guide her and give her Your peace and assurance
in what You would have her to do.  Open up her understanding and order her
footsteps.  Let her follow You Lord and give her Your boldness to speak
forth the things that You give her to do and say.  We thank You that You
opened up her eyes already and that You care for her so much that You did not
want her involved in the wrong fellowship.  You are so loving and we praise
and honor You.  We love You Lord and are forever grateful how You come to
our rescue when we lose our footing sometimes.  We hope that You will use
Kerry to minister to others so that they will know the truth also.  We pray
this in Jesus Mighty Name.  Amen and Amen.

Your sister in Christ,

Shelby--
From: E7M2KAP@TOWSONVX.BITNET (Howard Kaplon - Towson State University)
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Subject: More on No Bug in SPSS
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:46:44 GMT
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To further illustrate the Base 2 (binary) - Base 10 (decimal) conversion
problems, below is a simple QBASIC program and the output.  Here b1 is
the COMPUTED vallue  and b2 is the ASSIGNED answer.   All values are
double precision, but similar results occur with single precision (but
the discrepencies show up around the sixth ecimal place).

<Program Below>

DEFDBL A-B
CLS
a1 = 6.2#
a2 = 5.9#
b2 = .3#
b1 = a1 - a2
PRINT " 6.2", " 5.9", "    6.2 - 5.9", , " 0.3"
PRINT "____________________________________________________________"
PRINT
PRINT a1, a2, b1, b2
PRINT
IF b1 = b2 THEN PRINT "Yes" ELSE PRINT "NO!"
END

<End of Program>

<Output Below>

 6.2           5.9              6.2 - 5.9                0.3
____________________________________________________________

 6.2           5.9           .2999999999999998           .3

NO!

<End of Output>

Howard Kaplon

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:53:01 EST
Reply-To:     Lee Wolfle <WOLFLE@VTVM1.BITNET>
From:         Lee Wolfle <WOLFLE@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      LISREL manuals and PRELIS...

   Paddy Riley (University of Nottingham) inquired about LISREL
and the necessity of using PRELIS with the LISREL program...

   LISREL manuals may be obtained in the U.S. from

        Linda Budd, Manager
        Scientific Software, Inc.
        1369 Neitzel Road
        Mooresville, Indiana  46158 U.S.A.
        Phone: (317) 831-6336

   In Europe, contact

        SPSS International B.V.
        P.O. Box 115
        4200 AC Gorinchem
        The Netherlands
        Tel. +31.1830.36711
        fax  +31.1830.35839

   For analyzing covariance matrices in LISREL, the general
defaulted assumption is that one is analyzing a covariance
matrix with maximum-likelihood estimates of the model
parameters.
   There are circumstances when one wishes to analyze other
forms of matrices with distribution-free estimation
procedures.  In these circumstances one needs PRELIS to
estimate the tetrachoric, polychoric, polyserial, etc.
correlations, and particularly the associated weight matrices
for these estimates.
   Thus, if one wants analyze censored, binary, or ordinal
variables, or if one wants to perform analyses under non-normal
assumptions, one must use PRELIS prior to using LISREL.

                                Lee Wolfle
                                WOLFLE at VTVM1
                                wolfle@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
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Subject: Re: Getting warning # 11302 on SPSS!
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:43:48 GMT
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Organization: SPSS Inc.

In article <1993Jan27.013309.11935@cc.umontreal.ca> irwin@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Irwin David) writes:
>
>I am currently  doing analysis on data in order to validate a measure of
>justification of violence toward children (MJVC).  At this phase,
>I am performing factor analysis on the 72 items included in the measure.
>Six hundred and twelve persons answered the MJVC.
>
>I'm using SPSS on a IRIX 4.0 system
>
>    I am  continuously getting the following warning message:
>
>Warning # 11302
>	the correlation matrix is ill-conditioned
>

We get this question a lot, due to a poor criterion choice for the test
for ill-conditioning, so I thought I'd post my response:

Check your smallest eigenvalue in the initial statistics part of the
FACTOR output. If that is clearly nonzero, you can ignore the message.
The message is based on the value of the determinant of the correlation
matrix, which is the product of the eigenvalues. The eigenvalues must
sum to the trace of the matrix (in this case the number of variables).
Thinking about it it is easy to see that this means that the determinant
is likely to be very small with a large number of variables with even
fairly well behaved matrices. Indeed, I've actually managed to produce
this message using data drawn from pseudo-random samples of uncorrelated
normal populations by using some large number of variables. Thus, the
choice of criterion for issuing this message is poor. It has been changed
for version 5.0, so that the message is issued if the smallest eigenvalue
is very close to zero, rather than the determinant.

--
 David Nichols        Senior Statistical Support Specialist         SPSS, Inc.
 Phone: (312) 329-3684     Internet:  nichols@spss.com     Fax: (312) 329-3657
*******************************************************************************
 Any correlation between my views and those of SPSS is strictly due to chance.
From: cids05@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Dr Stephen K Tagg)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.spssx-l
Subject: Re: need help with alscal
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:59:45 GMT
Organization: Univ of Strathclyde, GLASGOW, SCOTLAND

In article <1jksmrINNjab@gap.caltech.edu>, rosy@cco.caltech.edu (Rosemary Macedo) writes:
> I'd like to create a correlation matrix for several variables
> from my active system file,
Step 1. Use Correlation procedures output matrix.
Step 2. Input matrix to generate active system file
Step 3. Alscal using similarity (and making /criteria cutoff -1)
STep 3. Enjoy.
> convert this to a distance matrix, and use that in ALSCAL.
> 
> I don't want to do anything fancy, just a simple 2-D fit.
> 
> My question is, how?  Or rather, how to do it easily...
> it's not obvious from the documentation (or I could be too
> jet lagged).
-- 
Dr Stephen K Tagg                   Bsc in Psychology, PhD in Architecture
Lecturer, Department of Marketing   IT & Stats for Marketing, Consumer Research
Univ of Strathclyde, GLASGOW        Mental Maps, Multidimensional Scaling, CSCW
G4 0RQ, SCOTLAND Tel 041-552-4400x2409 Fax 552 2802 Email s.k.tagg@uk.ac.strath
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:33:39 EST
Reply-To:     Stephen Salbod <SALBOD1@PACEVM.BITNET>
From:         Stephen Salbod <SALBOD1@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      rasch-wright modeling

dear listers
Can SPSS logistic regression be used to perform Rasch-Wright modeling?
If so, what would the implementation details be?

      Thanks in advance for any advise.

PRODUCED AND DIRECTED BY STEPHEN SALBOD (SALBOD1@PACEVM)
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From: irwin@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Irwin David)
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Subject: Getting warning # 11302 on SPSS!
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:33:09 GMT
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Organization: Universite de Montreal


I am currently  doing analysis on data in order to validate a measure of
justification of violence toward children (MJVC).  At this phase,
I am performing factor analysis on the 72 items included in the measure.
Six hundred and twelve persons answered the MJVC.

I'm using SPSS on a IRIX 4.0 system

    I am  continuously getting the following warning message:

Warning # 11302
	the correlation matrix is ill-conditioned

     I would be very pleased if someone could inform me about what causes
this warning to appear and consequently what to do in order to correct this
situation.

Thank you!

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From:         "R.A.Reese" <R.A.Reese@SEQUENT.CC.HULL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Not BUG - digital computer
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From a glance I think your problem is just in not realizing that "exact" decimal
fractions do not necessarily have an exact representation in a finite binary
notation. Almost always this doesn't matter, since the "error" is in the least
significant bit, so is of the order of, say, 1 in 2^32.  When you do the
 arithmetic
and then round the answer for printing to some "sensible" precision, you don't
see the error. However, two special cases have to be taken into account:

1) comparing REAL values for exact equality (as you have done) is quite likely
 to
fail.
2) if you do lots of calculations and haven't analyzed the algorithm, the errors
may accumulate, and you may lose all precision.  This is the basis of the
 continuing
and recurring debate between the "why can't I just copy the formula from the
 book
into a spreadsheet and save the cost of a package" and the "don't trust the
 answers
except from a bona fide and well-tested package" schools.

Footnote:  it is one of pieces of computing folklore that various fraudsters,
working in banks, have arranged for all the rounding errors in customer accounts
to be diverted into a ghost account from which they are then able to make
 personal
withdrawals.  It's such a nice idea that I fear it's probably an urban myth.

--
(R.) Allan Reese        Janet:          r.a.reese@uk.ac.hull
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Computer Centre         Voice messages: +44 482 465685
Hull University         Fax:            +44 482 466441
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From: davek@vax2.concordia.ca (DAVID KURZMAN)
Subject: Lisrel Manuals
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:59:00 GMT

Hi there,
When I started to use LISREL, I found the LISREL Manual to be helpful 
although very difficult to follow.  A VERY GOOD book is by Barbara M. Byrne 
(1989) called A Primer of LISREL: Bsic assumptions and programming for CFA 
models.  That, is, if you are using LISREL for CFA models, it is great. If, 
however, you are planning on conductingstructural Equation Models, the book 
is still helpful, although you may need further references

Hope this helps
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From: ljacinto@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Lester Jacinto)
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Subject: SPSS memory problem !!!
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:07:42 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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Hi SPSS users,

I've installed SPSS/PC ver 5.0 for extended memory.  The earlier version (4.01)
used to work properly with a memory resident program called "RECALL" (something
like DOSKEY), but now it doesn't work with this current version.  Does anyone
have any idea as to what is happening ? Good pointers to this are welcome...


- Lester


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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:57:34 EDT
From:         "Michael S. Hart" <HART@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject:      Re: Reference via internet
              26 Jan 1993 20:05:57 EDT from <LIBNJH%SUVM.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Important positive statements are being made concerning the Reference
Librarian's relationship with the networks as sources of information,
which the Reference Librarians may then pass on to their patrons.

Perhaps now is the time when Reference Librarians may also consider a
relationship with the networks that would also include information to
be travelling across the networks from the library to the patrons.

I wonder how long it will be before patrons can actually email to the
Reference Librarians in the same manner the Reference Librarians have
email access to their sources of information?

There can be little doubt this is going to happen, the question might
better be put as to when.  Perhaps the formulation of email forms for
queries would make this easier on the librarians.

=====================================================

Thank you for your interest,

Michael S. Hart, Professor of Electronic Text
Executive Director of Project Gutenberg Etext
Illinois Benedictine College, Lisle, IL 60532
No official connection to U of Illinois--UIUC
hart @uiucvmd.bitnet or hart@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:46:10 EDT
From:         MOLLY FINK <fink@vax.cord.edu>
Subject:      Canadian Public Opinion

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
--Help!

I have a professor who is interested in finding either a) an index
of the Globe and Mail newspaper of Canada-- or b) an index of Cnadian
public opinion poll data.

He is specifically working on public opinion surrounding the Free Trade
Agreement for the  years 1986- on...  Do either of these things exist?
And if so, how can a small academic library in Moorhead Minnesota get
them?

Any help will be most welcome!!
Thanks
Molly R. Fink
Fink@vax.cord.edu
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From:         Rebecca Turner <LIBTURNR%EKU.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      PHOTOCOPY CENTER
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am sending this message for someone else.

Crabbe Library at Eastern Kentucky University is studying the
feasibility of establishing a separate Photocopy Center to
handle photocopy requests from faculty and staff campus-wide,
as well as those from library staff and students.  If you have
experiencew to share, such as the pros & cons, staffing
considerations, cost of operation (i. e., can such a center pay
for itself, or does it take library funding?), bookkeeping, etc.,
we would appreciate hearing from you.  Thanks in advance!
Peggy Flaherty     LIBFLRTY@EKU.BITNET
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From:         "Karen B. Nichols - X8131"
              <NICHOLS%LUB002.LAMAR.EDU@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      RE: Reference via internet
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I would like to add my two cents worth on this topic.  I think that the
comments were a little harsh.

Many folks do not have good access to the hardware and software necessary
to access the Internet.  Without this access, practice and use is very
limited.  Most folks do not have time to stumble through the Internet with
the patron waiting for the information.  It is a catch-22 situation: until
the hardware and software becomes more available, reference will not be
using the Internet.  Without use, the hardware and software is not
necessary.

Kathy Schulz brought up a good point about time constraints.  I will admit
that I am not able to spend the time I would like to working on learning.
I also do not have telnet access to ftp or reach out as much as I wul
would like to have the opportunity.  It is now 9:30 p.m. in Texas and I
am finally getting around to responding.  Could be a serious problem for
soem folks.

Be patient with those of us who are learning and working.

Karen B. Nichols
Electronic Reference Services
Lamar University - Beaumont, Texas
NICHOLS@LUB002.LAMAR.EDU
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From:         Molly Molloy <mmolloy%lib.nmsu.edu@Kentvm.Kent.edu>
Subject:      Re: Vice Presidential debate
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
You should be able to get such a transcript through Lexis/Nexis.  I
believe all transcripts of campaign stuff are there in the CAMPAIGN Library.
Molly Molloy
NMSU Library
Las Cruces, NM   mmolloy@lib.nmsu.edu

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> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Does anyone know a source for obtaining a transcript of the Vice
> Presidential debate?
>
> Jean Reese
> Head Of Information Services
> Education Library
> Vanderbilt University
> BITNET reesemj@vuctrvax
> INTERNET reesemj@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
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Subject:      A reference question VIA Internet!
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I've become stymied in my search for origins of nonsense phrases (not
surprisingly) and wonder if someone on the list might help.  What is the
comic strip where the phrase "Nov schmav ka pop" originated, and what if
anything did it mean?  Tracking down "Notary Sojac" was simple, by
comparison!
                K-thanks,

John Williams
MCC Library
williams@mc.bitnet
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