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Subject: Re: Double Main Event at SS?
From: <EJW112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:36:12 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <92288.140244LAC132@psuvm.psu.edu>, <LAC132@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>   As already noted on the syndies, the main event at Survivor Series is
>Flair and Ramon vs. Savage and Warrior. There could be a possibility of a
>championship title match (as part of a double main event).
>   Now that Bret Hart has won the WWF title, will he defend the title at
>Survivor Series and who will the "#1 contender" be to face him Thanksgiving
>Eve?
>
>   Possible "contenders" -----
>    1.  Rick "The Model" Martel (possibly the most forseeable)
>    2.  Shawn Michaels (God forbid!)
>    3.  Kamala (I think the Undertaker is enough of a problem for him)
>    4.  The Mountie (I think the Michaels idea sounded a little better)
>    5.  British Bulldog (a rematch from Summer Slam. Hmmmmmmm!)
>    6.  Papa Shango (a lot of bad blood between both men)
>
>       I definitely welcome your input on who the opponent of the "Hit
>    Man" will be at the Survivor Series.
>
>                                        Thanks,
>
>                                        "Sweet" Louie C.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   "Excuses are crutches for the weak."
>
>                                 - "The Enforcer" Arn Anderson


Well, MARK, er huh Louie...

        I think he'll face Steve DiSalvo at SS.

"Sour" EJW
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From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: Mean Gene in Fargo, ND on 10/7/92
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:41:44 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <92282.003443LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET>, LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
> Greetings to my fellow r.s.p-w'ers.  Long time no post, eh?!?!  Well, I have
> been reading the net, almost daily, and keeping up on things.  Lack of
> motivation and time constraints have prevented me from posting....'til today.
> 
> On tonight's local evening news, a press conference was held to announce the
> inagural events for the Fargodome which will be opening in December.  Mean Gene
> Okerlund was in attendance, announcing that the first event will be held on
> December 3rd.  You guessed it... a WWF card.
> 
> The soundbite which they broacasted of Gene had him saying (paraphrasing):
> "The WWF is pleased to announce that it will hold the first event ever in the
> Fargodome, with such stars as former WWF Heavyweight Champion Hulk Hogan."
> 
> The card will be on December 3, 1992.  If this wasn't just a ploy to sell
> tickets (which I wouldn't put past Vince), I'd wager that Hogan will make his
> return at the Survivor Series, and my guess would be making the save during the
> Ric Flair/Razor "Studd/Di Salvo/Ramon" vs. Ultimate Maniacs match.
> Anyone else agree???
> -----
> Lee Anderson  aka Pervert, Cougar, & Andrew the Wanderer(SCA)
> landerso@ndsuvm1  Grand Forks, ND
> "You'll go blind doing that...."  Bobby the Brain....
--
I gotta believe it.  This months WWF Mag. has a big picture of HH in the "fan
forum" column and a "letter" from a fan wanting more stuff about him.  Surely
this "letter" would not have been created except to remind the marks that HH
once existed to prepare them for his return.  

On a slightly related note: in the same issue, it was mention that Mr. Perfect
comes from a wrestling family and his father is the famous ...<some first name>
Hennig.  Also on Wrestling Superstars on 10/10, Vince called Mr. Perfect,
"Curt," once.  Hmmmm, is Vince about to reveal Mr. Perfects real name?
-- 
Ed Oates (my opinions, not Oracle's)
 
*** Holy ozone, Batman, what a sunburn! ***
From: niceswangern@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: The Terminator & The U.W.F.
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:07:35 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

	Whatever happened to The Terminator?  He used to be my favorite 
wrestler - the way he always interfered with a match by using "The Claw" 
and pretty much destroying everything and everyone in his way.  I remember  
 seeing him in the UWF (what happened to the UWF?) around 1987 or 1988.
		
				Nate N.
				Somers, Iowa, U.S.A.
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Intercontinental Champion
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

(The Candy Guru) writes...

>> The word "intercontinental" is about as devoid of meaning as possible
>> when applied to a championship.  [...] In fact, according to the
>> WWF, the first champion (Pat Patterson?) won the title in a tournament
>> in *South* America.
> 
>Right... Patterson won the title, if I recall correctly, in Rio.


   Clear something up for me on this.  Am I on crack or wasn't the 
Intercontinental title once called the North American title?  And wasn't
it originally held by Ted DiBiase?  I clearly remember that when cable was
first introduced (circa 1978 or so), I was ecstatic that WOR-TV in New York
was available where I live because they had the WWF syndie on at Midnight
on Saturdays.  When I first started watching, the Pat Patterson/Ted DiBiase
feud was winding down, and I recall that the angle was that they were feuding
over the North American title.  When Patterson won the belt, they changed the 
name to the glitzier "Intercontinental" title.  Patterson would flub during
interviews occasionally, saying something like "DiBiase, you'll never win back
the North Ameri...er, uh...Interontinental title", (Patterson was never much
of a rocket scientist).  
    Now, this is what I always thought about the history of the 
Intercontinantal belt, but it's completely at odds with what has been said
on RSPW.  Is there any grain of truth to my version, or am I losing my
gosh-darn mind?

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From: bobh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Bob Hutton)
Subject: British Wrestler Dies.
Organization: TQM Communications, London, UK
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:03:38 GMT

British wrestler "Pit Bull" Kevin Cawley died on Monday evening after
collapsing during the ring during a Battle Royal at a card in Lewisham.
He was rushed to hospital but was dead on arrival.

Cawley had returned to ring in March following a lengthy lay-off. During
the 1980's he had wrestled as The Black Baron and was regularly the heel
team's heavy artillery in tag matches featuring Big Daddy/any young face.

Bob Hutton.
From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Old Japanese Videos - review
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:15:33 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University

In article <Bvt5z8.DtE@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
 
>- There was a weird spot on one tape where the teams of Jumbo Tsuruta
>  & Genichiro Tenryu, Stan Hansen & Bruiser Brody, Giant Baba & Dory Funk,
>  and Greg Gagne & Jim Brunzell all came to the ring for the announcement
>  of a tag title tourney.  James Blear made the announcement and clearly
>  said that the date was 04/13/84 and that the tourney finals would take
>  place on 04/25/84.  I didn't hear what title was on the line, but he
>  said the championship would be recognized by the PWF and the AWA.
>  Anybody have any info on this?
 
From the June 1984 issue of the Observer (dug these out of the basement
the other day):
 
"Bruiser Brody & Stan Hansen, as expected, won the tournament to
determine World's tag team champions by downing Giant Baba & Dory
Funk in the finals 4/25 in Yokohama.  The bout ended when they
delivered a stuff-piledriver on Baba, who fell out of the ring.
Hansen lariated Baba, while the legal men, Dory and Brody were in
the ring with Dory using the spinning toe hold.  Hansen lariated
Dory and Brody then pinned him after a kneedrop in 16:19.
 
"Brody & Hansen finished with six points, to five for Baba & Funk,
four for Tenryu & Tsuruta and three for Greg Gagne & Jim Brunzell.
Tenryu pinned Gagne in the third place match as the semifinal on
the same card."
 
According to the May 1984 issue, Kevin and Kerry Von Erich were
originally supposed to participate in the tournament, but they
Kevin cancelled because he didn't want to travel.  Gagne and
Brunzell replaced them.
 
I don't think the AWA ever did anything with this title.
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
From: shess@admin1.memst.edu
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Subject: The Honky Tonk Man
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:42:37 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

        ( Excerpts form an article in the Memphis Commercial Appeal )

        Wayne Farris gained fame as "The Honky Tonk Man," a pro wrestling
  superstar. Now he has found fulfillment as a matchmaker who helps high
  school athletes find colleges. Farris, who lives in Germantown (an
  upper class suburb just outside of Memphis), is area director for the Logan, 
  Ohio based College Prospects of America Inc. This service helps high school
  athletes find the best opportunities to continue to play in college, no
  matter the sport. For $445, Farris' College Prospects of America service 
  will compile information on an athlete - a resume that includes a photo,
  athletic and academic information, and recommendations from coaches. Via
  computer that resume is sent to any of 1,767 colleges and junior colleges
  across the nation that the athlete may fit. The regional service is $389.
  The service provides frequent updates for colleges and advice to athletes 
  and their parents. Farris purchased rights to the area last August.
        Farris, 39, a Bolivar, Tenn. native, is a Memphis State graduate who
  coached for two years at Munford (Tenn.) HIgh in the 1970's before becoming
  a pro wrestler. He said that even while he was pinning down fame and money
  in the World Wrestling Federation - where he dressed like Elvis, wielded a
  guitar and gyrated his hips a lot in his act - his heart stayed with high
  school athletes. "My first love is coaching, I went to Memphis State to
  become a coach," said Farris, who said he does about 50 wrestling shows a
  year but tries not to bring up wrestling when working for College Prospects.
  "A lot of my friends that got into it when I did are still in it. I heard
  about this (recruiting service) through a coach in Manchester, Tenn. With
  my background in teaching and coaching, I researched it and liked what I 
  saw."

        ( No word on his musical career!!! :-) :-)

                                   Steve Hess
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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: [WCW] Tony Atlas
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 12: 21:43 -0500
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:21:43 GMT
Received-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 12: 20:56 CDT


Gawd... it's weird seeing Tony Atlas as a heel.  Growing up,
the few people I never would have picked to do a turn would have
been Curt Hennig, Tony Atlas, Tommy Rich, and Mr. Wrestling II.
As far as I know, only the fourth has never turned (though he was
starting to show a bit of a heel-ish nature when Tommy Rich won
"Fan's favorite wrestler" vote and won the trophy.

Tony looks OLD.  I suppose mostly due to his shaving his head
since the last time I saw him.  If I saw him once as S. Simba,
I don't remember it anymore.  At least he's still got his
muscular definition.

Sigh... anyone NOT expecting the "spinner's choice" with all the
talk they're giving it?  Of course, that might just be what
Watts is planning.  Make everyone THINK it'll be spinner's
choice, then have one of the others get spun instead.

Oh, and all during WCW-Saturday Night, whenever they mentioned
"spinner's choice", they made it sound like it would be
Jake's choice.  Is there any reason why Jake would be the
spinner instead of Sting?  In the advertisements, they show
Sting spinning the wheel...

		--Otto "spin the node, hack the code" Heuer

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From: johann@jester.usask.ca (James Johannesson,E1 Admin,x6763,0000000)
Subject: Re: NEW WWF WORLD CHAMPION
Originator: johann@jester.usask.ca
Reply-To: johann@jester.usask.ca
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:01:49 GMT

From article <1992Oct13.161029.1779@orbital.demon.co.uk>, by bobh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Bob Hutton):
> Hopefully this will get out sufficiently quickly to stop me from looking
> silly. Further to my post concerning The L.A. Times report that Bret
> Hart had taken the World strap at last Saturday's L.A. House show, this
> has been confirmed, unless I'm being wound up something rotten.
> 
> Apparently Hellwig has been getting a bit demanding so they've decided
> against an immediate title run for him. The title will apparently go,
> Hart, a heel (unknown), Backlund, setting up Backlund .v. Hogan for The
> WrestleMania 9 Main Event.
> 
> Hope this gets out quickly and is correct.
> 
> Bob Hutton.

The WWF pulled there show into Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada last night. I
didn't go due to other commitments, but the front cover of the local rag
had a picture of Flair vs. Hitman and the caption underneath 
said that Hitman won the title from Flair. It didn't say anything else
and I didn't have time this morning to check the paper further to see 
if any other details where given.

James Johannesson
(johann@jester.usask.ca)
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Separated at birth....
Summary: Correction
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:55:16 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <545@bdrc.bdrc.bd.com>, woody@bdrc.bd.com (Woody Muller) writes:
> Tracy Smothers and Woody Harrelson 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


  I believe you mean Steve Armstrong.  He looks like Harrelson.

  Recent postings may have led to confusion about the WWF's Lance Cassidy.
He is Steve Armstrong not Tracy Smothers.  Both wrestled in WCW as the
Wild Eyed Southern Boys, then changed the name of the team to the Young
Pistols.  After becoming US tag team title holders, they later started 
working in singles, mostly as jobbers.  Steve dropped out and Tracy hung
around a little longer, again as a jobber, though he was still anounced as
one half of the Young Pistols, though they never showed the YP wreste.

  I don't know what happened to Tracy, but again, Steve Armstrong is the guy
playing Lance Cassidy in the WWF.  Steve has the blondish hair, Tracy has the
darker hair.


                                      Fippster 6
From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: Net gods! Finally, vindication...
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:40:50 GMT

Vindication is sweet.

About a year ago, I was involved in a flame war because I called Sean Ryan a
"net god". I was flamed for this remark by everybody and their brother.

A year later, everybody is flaming Sean Ryan for his "net god" attitude. The
irony is that the term "net god" hasn't been used since I used it last year.
Maybe some people actually knew who was correct last year...

 
--

ventura@camelot.bradley.edu  

"I'm a 60 minute man, and I'm ALL night long! WOOOOOO!!!"
        - "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion"(tm)  Ric Flair
 
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From: smaus@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Maus)
Subject: Re: Hogan's imminent return?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:39:45 GMT

tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston) writes:


>I saw All-American Wrestling (I think that's the name of it, it's one
>of the WWF syndies) this morning.  The opening credits have so many
>clips of Hogan that I will be extremely surprised if he doesn't
>return to the WWF soon.  Have the speculations posted to this group
>about his appearing at Survivor Series been confirmed yet?  I hope
>he doesn't get the title back if/when he returns.  It seems point-
>less for it to be held by someone who appears so seldom on the
>weekly shows.

>Tom
Well, word has it that the Hulkster is on the wrestling card for opening
night at the Fargodome in Fargo, ND!! I bet, the way most cards turn out,
is that they are just using his name for ticket sales, just to find out
that he couldn't make it " due to illness"

Mean Gene was in town the other night to promote this event andmentioned
that Hulkster, Macho Man, and others were to appear. But like the old
saying goes, " What they say and what they do are two different things!"

Have a great week and how about postings of where and when the WWF, WCW,
GFW, and other organizations will be at/coming to!

Scott  "Maniac Moose"
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Bob Backlund
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

(Michael Jenkinson) writes...

>>Can some one fill me in on why Bob Backlund left the WWF in the first place?
> 
>The important people here can correct me if I'm wrong...
> 
>Backlund was going around at the time saying (to mark magazines like
>PWI) that Vince wanted him to dye his hair black and become a
>rule-breaker. Because he didn't want to do that, he left the WWF.

   In no way do I claim to be an "important person" in this group, but I
just wanted to point something out.  Backlund's claim that McMahon wanted
him to dye his hair and turn heel was not an angle, nor was it a "mark" 
rumour.  That was the truth.  It is also true that Backlund left the WWF 
because, as he said (again this is not an angle), he did not want his kids
seeing him on TV with dyed hair making a fool of himself.  He did not want to
play the heel because he didn't think it was in his personality.  This sounds
like it came right out of Apter's mouth, but I'm taking this info from an
article published in Sports Illustrated on the McMahon takeover of pro
wrestling, dated 1984.  And I don't believe this was ever mentioned in any of
the mark magazines like PWI or its "sister" magazines.  McMahon simply didn't
think Backlund's milk and cookies image was worth marketing, so he wanted 
Backlund to do a heel turn.  Bob refused, so Vince told him goodbye.

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From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Subject: Re: Intercontinental Champion
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:25:38 GMT

In article <13205@operator> oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite) writes:
>While trying to fall asleep last night I started thinking about the WWF
>intercontinental title. As I understand it the IC strap can only change
>hands when it is defended on the North American continent, as opposed
>to anywhere in the world which is covered by the world title. Now here's
>my question - Doesn't this clause render the IC title change at Summer
>Slam 92 null and void since it occured in Europe?!? I know that
>Vince thinks he can fool everyone but that's not my concern really, 
>just whether my interpretation of the IC title is correct.

The word "intercontinental" is about as devoid of meaning as possible
when applied to a championship.  There is *no* reasonable interpretation
of the word in this context.  If it were the "continental" or
"intracontinental" title, then it could possibly mean "North American"
championship, but that's not its name.  Besides that, it has often
been defended outside of North America.  In fact, according to the
WWF, the first champion (Pat Patterson?) won the title in a tournament
in *South* America.

"Intercontinental," in the real world, means "across continents."  If
you take an intercontinental flight, you fly from one continent to
another.  It is certainly a bizarre word with which to label a title.
The name is confusing, and it is no more restrictive than "world" title.
The only reason for giving it such a weird name that I can see is
that the WWF wanted a second "world" championship that was not as
prestigious as the first, and they didn't think "lesser world 
championship" had a good ring to it.

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From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Subject: Re: Recent News
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:27:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.201054.13307@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Candy Guru) writes...
>In article <92275.182052IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
> 
>>      -Kendall Windham now owns a video dating service in Tampa.  Oh joy!
> 
>This is really non sequitur...

Then post it to alt.non.sequitur, for Christ sakes!  :-)

This brings up another point which was been debated in this newsgroup,
that being what is and isn't appropriate to post, even when it relates
to pro wrestling.  I've had to hear from the Chris Bertholfs of the
world and others for quite some time about how anything I've ever posted
that wasn't directly related to pro wrestling itself wasn't appropriate; 
usually, this would be around the time that I would post administrivia,
i.e. something related to the newsgroup itself.  IMO, this is as
appropriate and serves as much of a purpose as seeing 35 articles all
giving the same opinion about the last major PPV show.

As for Kendall Windham, what was posted certainly was appropriate.  Now
we know what Kendall is up to, and when someone stupidly asks "Where is/
whatever happened to Kendall Windham" or something of a similar nature,
we have this particular article as a reference.  I don't believe that
wholesale reprinting of a wrestling sheet, as was done to initiate this
thread, has a place in this newsgroup (read: copyright violation), but
it was nice to have the information nonetheless, and it can be put to
use by those on the net.

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