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From: Black_Swan@MTS.RPI.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: E-mail Network at Chula
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:52:04 GMT
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ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong) writes:
 
|s> A friend from Chula wrote me the following message. Though he might 
 ..........
 
|s> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
|s> 
|s> ....I forgot to tell you last time that the email access that I'm
|s> using is an experimental project going on at the main library here
|s> in Chula. If this project gets through, we will also have 
|s> ftp (file transfer), news and BBS. Right now the connection is a
|s> lease telephone line directly connected to somewhere at virginia.
|s> The cost is high since we use lease line (due to the reliability
|s> problem). The system load is light, hope that it will get heavier
|s> in the future when it is put to work, so that the admin. will
|s> realize the importance of having this world-wide information access....
|s> 
|s> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
 
I have been reading s.c.t and keeping track of your thai-network
development for quite a while. I have a question. Since Singapore, a
member or ASEAN which is Thailand is also a member has already
established good BITNET and INTERNET link why don't Thailand take
advantage of this. Certainly Singapore is geographically much closer
to Thailand than say Australia or in the above case Virginia. Wouldn't
it be more cost effective to start having a link from Singapore until
the day you can afford perhaps a T1 or higher capacity line directly
to the US or perhaps what you have now is more cost effective?
 
 
Black Swan
Black_Swan@mts.rpi.edu
 
 
 
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: >AIDS in Thailand (fwd from a friend's message)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:05:35 GMT
Keywords: AIDS, Thailand

Few days ago, I got a message from Khun Schitt Laowattana informing me
about some information on AIDS situation in Thailand. I have asked him
whether I could forward part of it to the net. He kindly gave me the 
permission. On the behalf of all of us in the net, thank you very much
Khun Schitt for your generosity. 

---------- 

................

      (1). According to an unofficial source, AIDS population in Thailand is
about 1.2 % of total population.  This figure is the highest in the world.

      (2). It's true that our government is having a short vision on this
matter.  I always agree with someone in NESDB (National Economic and Social
Development Board) that tourism is currently one of the highest income source
(rank #1 or #2, competing with agricultural produces).  However, in my opinion,
this business is very unstable and we must pay very high in term of society
cost such as moral and other consequences in physical deterioration of those
site-seeing places.  Here, we have another problem namely AIDS which will cost
us tremendousely high on our effort to solve such a problem. Shame on our
seniors who have never prepared something "good" for our genration.

..........................
From: mmeyer@m2.dseg.ti.com (Mark Meyer)
Subject: Re: Me Too
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc. - Plano TX
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:27:14 GMT

In article <20JUL199215115386@bestsd.sdsu.edu> cslac2216@bestsd.sdsu.edu (Unalome Techamuanvivit) writes:
>	I remember an embarrassing situation when I first came to study in
> America last year.  A guy came up to me and asked "Do you have time?"...
> I had no clue whatsoever he was talking about!!  Do I have time?..that's
> non of your business..this guy is approaching me or what..that's what I 
> thought at the time!! So, I just walked away from him.  Eventually, I knew
> that asking "Do you have time" simply means "Do you know what time it is?"
> And just looking back at the situation makes me laugh :)  It was really
> embarrassing. 

	Unless you misheard him, I don't see why you should have been
embarrassed.  "Do you have time" means exactly what you thought it did
the first time.  If an American wants to know what time it is, he
might ask, "Do you have >the< time?"  Maybe you missed the "the", I
don't know.
	The comedian George Carlin had a cute line about this.  When
someone asked him, "Pardon me, but do you have the time?" he answered,
"No, I don't HAVE the time... At least, I don't think I do... I think
the Navy has it in Washington.  They give a little of it out each day.
Not too much, just what we need." :-)

	I remembered one story about my inability to distinguish some
Thai tones, but I need to go home and check the details.  I'll just
say now that my Thai teacher was pronouncing some words that I tried
to write down, and one error I had made was rather amusing...

-- 
Mark Meyer                                               | mmeyer@dseg.ti.com |
Texas Instruments, Inc.                                  +--------------------+
Every day, Jerry Junkins is grateful that I don't speak for TI.
                                       The more you know, the less you believe.
From: kamol@munnari.oz.AU (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: June 8: Banchob says justice will prevail
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:10:10 GMT
Organization: Mail/News gateway

 
     THE restructuring of the Internal Peace-keeping Command and 
Capital Security Command is being carried out as ordered by Prime 
Minister Anand Panyarachun, Defence Minister Gen Banchob Bunnag 
said yesterday.
     Gen Banchob said he has been reported on the progress but 
declined to give details saying that he has to report the Prime 
Minister first.
     Regarding the committee set up by the Defence Ministry to 
investigate the May tragedy, Gen Banchob said he has been closely 
following the probe. The committee has 45 days since its 
commissioning to present its findings.
     Asked if senior officers were in the brutal military 
crackdown on the protesters, the minister said he will have to see 
the investigation results first.
     Asked whether the officers concerned would be transferred if 
found guilty, Gen Banchob said he did not want to answer anything 
with an "if".
     He refused to say whether former prime minister and defence 
minister Gen Suchinda Kraprayoon would be summoned to testify 
before the investigating committee since Army Chief Gen Issarapong 
Noonpakdee told the panel that he was ordered by Gen Suchinda to 
quell the demonstrators.
     The defence minister said the question should be raised with 
committee chairman Gen Pichitr Kullavanijaya.
     Gen Banchob affirmed that the military committee will not 
disappoint the people as both the chairman and committee members 
will be fair and straightforward.
     He said he already has in his mind what to do if the 
investigation results of the Government-appointed committee and 
the military committee come out differently but did not elaborate.
     On the annual military reshuffle, Gen Banchob said the matter 
has not been considered but that everything will be carried out 
according to the policy laid down by the Prime Minister.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: VN, Thailand to exchange prisoners 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:21:27 GMT
Keywords: Vietnam-Thailand relations


VN's PM, Vo Kan Kiet, left Thailand on Wednesday after signing an agreement
with Thailand on exchange of fishermen who have been kept prisoners (800 Thai
vs 30 Vietnamese prisoners), as a result of his two-day visit to Thailand.

The UPI reported news also gives background information of the relations 
between the two countries. VN needs capital, skills and know-how technology
from its Thai counterparts in its economic liberalization.

For more details, read tnews article in:

Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.issues.conflict
Subject: Vietnam, Thailand to exchange prisoners in goodwill gesture
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 7:38:31 EDT
From: chairac@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Chairatanatrai Charlie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: ****TEST....
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:44:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Jul27.184452.2707
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


Yo, what's up, y'all?

Any Thai dudes out there?

Well, this's just a cool test....!

Peace out...

---------
chairac@ece.orst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: olmstead@sail.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Re: Thailand's Image
Originator: olmstead@sail.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:31:14 GMT

Things are sure quiet on s.c.t. these days.  Did Tawit and Samart lose
their computer accounts?

I would like to initiate a discussion.  For the most part this net is
contributed to and read by Thais working/studying abroad and the odd
farang with personal connections to Thailand.  Because of this an
objective answer may be hard to solicit.  At any rate here goes.

Thailand is a nation worthy of attention.  Consider its size, location,
population, recent economic track record, history and of course its
culture.  In Canada this May, Suchinda's brutality and the heroism of the
civilians were the leading piece on our TV news and the front page story
of our intelligent newspapers.  What followed was a series of
documentaries that come around about once a year.  These focus on
prostitution (child & adult)  and more recently AIDS.  So:


	What is the image of Thailand in the West?

	What is the image of Thailand in the other ASEAN nations?

	Is there a popular movie that accurately portrays Thai life?

	Is there a popular novel that accurately portrays Thai life?


There are many questions I would like to ask. To be honest I know very
few people, other than my close friends, that could point to Thailand on
the map, let alone discuss its image abroad.  There is a story of a
farang that went to Thailand for a day and wanted to write a book so he
stayed for a week.  After the week he knew he could write a good
article so he stayed longer.  After a year he couldn't produce a
paragraph.  That is why I resort to fishing for information like this
on s.c.t..


Mike Olmstead			olmstead@steam.uwaterloo.ca
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Far Eastern Econ Review & the May Event (from SEASIA-L)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:37:28 GMT
Keywords: journalism


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From: setl@omilia.ee.mu.oz.au (Shane Tieng Se Lim)
Subject: Cambodia Week
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:31:10 GMT

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From: setl
Subject: Cambodian Week.
Status: RO


All Welcome !!!!!

			Cambodia Week
			-------------

Community Aid Abroad, Cambodian Students Society (Melbourne University) and the International Law Interest Group are organizing a week of events to celebrate Khmer culture, raise political awareness of Cambodia past and problematic future and fraise funds to help a Community Aid Abroad employed prosthetisist train Cambodians to make and fit false limbs.


The activities schedules are:

Monday 3 August 12:30 pm - 2:10 pm.
	A number of cultural events will  occur in the North Court (the main courtyard at Melbourne University)
	(1) Traditional Cambodian Dancers will dance for two sets of twenty minutes.
	(2) Cambodian food will be sold for two dollars a meal.
	(3) People (that included YOU !) wil dance to a modern Cambodian 
	    band.  To endure participation, we are holding a FREE 
	    Cambodian dancing class on Wednesday 29th July 1992.
	    This dancing class is held at the Rehearsal Room, 2nd floor
	    Union Building, at 5:30 pm, instructed by Shane Lim.
	(4) Cambodian artifacts will be displayed.
	(5) Brochures on the cultural and political history of Cambodia
	    will be distributed.

Tuesday 4 August 1:00 pm - 2:15 pm.
	A Cambodian speaker will discuss Kmher cultural and political history and the experience of Cambodian Refugees.

Wednesday 5 August 1:00 pm - 2:15 pm.
	Mark Deasey, from Quaker Service Australia worked in Cambodia for two and a half years (including running the English teaching program) and will discuss aid in Cambodian and the United Nations Peace Plan.

Thursday 6 August 1:00 pm - 2:15 pm.
	Senator Gareth Evans will discuss the United Nations Peace Plan, Australia's commitment to Cambodia and answer questions.

Thursday 6 August 7:00 pm
	The program will end with the Cambodian Benefit Gig. A number of Victorian bands will play either at the Buffet (Melbourne University) or the Empress Hotel, Fitzroy.
	(To be confirm on the location)

Regards,

	Shane Lim.


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|Shane (Tieng Se Lim).	     	    || Telephone: +61 3 344 7685 	    |
|Department of Electrical & 	    || Fax:     : +61 3 344 6678            |
|	    Electronic Engineering  || E-Mail   : setl@mullian.ee.mu.oz.AU  |
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From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:05:28 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Women, I am about to launch a free electronic matching service on 
Usenet.  Unfortunately, more guys than gals have expressed an 
interest so far.  If you would like to see the fourth draft of my 
questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's needs as well as 
men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I posted in 
alt.personals.
 
This service is serious and I already have 119 men and 86 women signed
up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected and
programmers are being lined up for the construction of the listserver.
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make sure
that matches are compatible culturally.
 
                                                            Eric Klien
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: All Border Rebels Disallowed? (from SEASIA-L)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:23:28 GMT
Keywords: Thailand-neigboring countries relations


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From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: VN, Laos accede to ASEAN (from SEASIA-L)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:57:40 GMT
Keywords: ASEAN, Vietnam, Laos


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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seasia-l
Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:55:49 -0400
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: VN, Laos accede to ASEAN treaty as 1st communist nations
X-To:         FISHLM%SNYBUFVA@pucc.princeton.edu, scv@media.mit.edu,
              seasia-l@msu.BITNET, vietnam@cco.caltech.edu, vn-news@saigon.com

07/22

VIETNAM, LAOS ACCEDE TO ASEAN TREATY AS FIRST COMMUNIST NATIONS

MANILA (JULY 22) DPA - Vietnam and Laos Wednesday became the first communist
nations to accede to the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) treaty
on friendship and cooperation.

Agreement on accepting the two ASEAN non-members came in Manila at the 25th
annual meeting of the organisation originally set up in 1967 as a bulwark
against a perceived communist threat.

The agremeent was signed by Vietnamese Foreign Minister Nguyen Manh Cam and his
Laotian colleague Phoune Sioraseuth.
From: itthi@sunburn.sli.unimelb.edu.au (Itthi Trisirisatayawong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Surveying Land
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:03:45 GMT
Reply-To: itthi@sunburn.UUCP (Itthi Trisirisatayawong)
Organization: University of Melbourne, Dpt of Surveying and Land Information

In article <BrrCw2.4L3@watserv1.waterloo.edu> olmstead@sail.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>I am wondering if anyone can tell me about a place in Bangkok that is
>supposedly referenced by Thai surveyors when they are describing
>property.  I read that all survey plans show a measurement to this
>point.  Is that true?
I guess that is called Phu-Khao-Tong (Golden Mountain) in Wat Sra-ket. It is
a major control point of national geodetic network and there are sort of this
all around Bangkok. For the Department of Lands (Krom-Tee-Din), 
it used to be the origin of a map-grid system in Bangkok and nearby provinces.

This point had been chosen because in the past there were very few landmarks
that could be seen from a far distance. Bankok is flat and obviously Phu-Khao-
Thong was the wise choice. That's not true anymore because we have so many
high-rise buildings and because new surveying techniques don't need these
points as references anymore.

Itthi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: mbuntan@epx.cis.umn.edu ()
Subject: Thaielection
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:49:42 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: olmstead@sail.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Surveying Land
Originator: olmstead@sail.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:26:25 GMT

I am wondering if anyone can tell me about a place in Bangkok that is
supposedly referenced by Thai surveyors when they are describing
property.  I read that all survey plans show a measurement to this
point.  Is that true?

olmstead
olmstead@sail.uwaterloo.ca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: pekka@tmt.tele.fi (Pekka Ahonen)
Subject: Re: Me Too
Organization: PTT Finland, Telematics
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:14:02 GMT

When I looked at my ex-wife silently she used to say "Duu aray,
ai-hia" or "Mong aray" rather than "Thamay?".

In Finland they also teach British-English at school and once when one
of my thai friends just started to work in a new place she was asked
by one Finn "How are you?" and she answered by telling her name.

Pekka


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: VN leader to discuss econ cooperation w/ Thais 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:31:04 GMT
Keywords: Vietnam-Thailand economic relations

	UPI reports that VNi's PM has visited Thailand along with high
level officials to discuss economic cooperation with the Thai government.
The news mentions background information concerning the relations between
the two countries. It also mentions Anand's visit VN in January. Analysts
say Malaysia and Singapore are ahead of Thailand in making advance into
economic relations with VN.
	According to the news, Thailand and VN still have a big gap due
to long standing unsolved problems, e.g. fishing. 


Read more details in:

Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.economy
Subject: Vietnamese leader to discuss economic cooperation with Thais
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 4:44:58 PDT
From: pat@cs.uow.edu.au (Pattarasinee Bhattarakosol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Economic in thai
Summary: How does the economic go in Thai?
Keywords: Econimic
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:15:37 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Sawaddee-ka

I have not contact to my friends in Thai so long because of busy studying.
Since the passing May, what is going on in our country?
I knew from my friends who work for forieng company that so many forieng 
companies are closed down, is it true?
Because of this, I think that our economic is going down and down.
I would like to know that what is the truth story of our country.

So, how about the chance to get a job in our country? Is it so difficult?
One of my friend (not Thai  people) will finish M.Sc.(computer) 
this year and wants to find a job & stays in Thai, but the problem is 
his requirement for salary is about 1500-2000 $(AUS),
which is about 30,000 - 40,000 Baht.  
I can say that this person is very smart, and good in Networking and UNIX&C.
Is it possible for this person to get a job? How to apply for it?

This friend asked me many times but I really have no idea.
Anybody can help me answer this question?

Kub-kun-ka

pat
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Thai tribunal backs amnesty decree covering May unrest
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:17:52 GMT
Keywords: Thai politics, military

Read details in:

Newsgroups: clari.news.gov.international,clari.news.issues.civil_rights,clari.news.politics
Subject: Thai tribunal backs amnesty decree covering May unrest
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 7:03:32 PDT
From: trin@tlaeng.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Chamlong wins Magsaysay award
Date: 25 Jul 92 13:16:48 +0700
Organization: Digital Equipment (Thailand), Ltd.

Partially quoted from Bangkok Post, July 21

  Former Palang Dharma Party leader Chamlong Srimuang was awarded for the
Ramon Magsaysay award for government service yesterday. The former Bangkok
governor was cited for inspiring tens of thousands of Thais during the
pro-democracy protests in May.
  "With a stunning act on non violent protest that prompted his arrest, he
galvanised the public to reject the unelected leader (name mentioned in
parenthesis)," the Ramon Magsaysay award foundation said in its citation,
referring to the hunger strike staged by Maj-Gen Chamlong.
  "If elected leaders are no better than military strongmen or demineering
party bosses, why should the people take risk of insisting on democracy.
  "As the elcted governor of Bangkok and a champion of democratic reforms in
Thailand, Chamlong Srimuang has renewed hope among Thais that the risk is
worth taking," the citation said.
  Maj-Gen Chamlong is the second Thai national to receive a Magsaysay award
in two years. Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn received the award last year
for public service.
  He will receive a medal and a cash award of $30,000.
  The Magsaysay awards are given in five categories annually to outstanding
Asians or institutions in the region.
  They were established in memory of former Philippine president Ramon
Magsaysay, who died in a plane crash in 1957.

[the remaining of the article omitted.]
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:09:45 -0400 
From: Wisanu Subsompon <ws2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Test

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