From: tdietz@tcedge.mi.org (Tom Dietz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.95h
Date: 23 Aug 92 10:52:15 EDT
Organization: EXCELSIOR! Tech Support BBS (313) 77-AMIGA

In an article, shudson@vsbbs.UUCP (Stefan Hudson) writes:

>I program PFiles in C, and don't see what is wrong. One of the good things
>is that there isn't much of an interface, so you can get some decent speed.

Speed, what are you talking about?  I assume the person was complaining 
because of the incompatibility between revisions.  I used to program C-Doors 
for CNet, it was terrible having to recompile his headers in.  The person was 
referring to EXCELSIOR!'s door interface.   You will NEVER have to recompile 
a door to get it to work.  I think thats what his point was.

>The manual does not say that he took the _code_ from skyline, it says he
>uses the same _COMMANDS_ (with extensions), to give compatability with SkyPix
>Pfiles. I don't think this is bad, it would be nice if doors would work on

Thats what the author of the post was talking about.  Ken has NO right to say 
"Rip off" to another BBS when it is documented that he used some features from 
other BBS software.

>I may be wrong on this one, but I thought this was because XPR libraries
>are not all residentable. 

You are wrong.  EXCELSIOR! is 100% resident.  XPR's and all.  They may not be
residentable to Ken, but it can, and was done ;)

>What do you mean? It seems to work like a shell for me! The only thing it
>can't do is previous commands, and this is because he filters the ESC from
>input.

Right, it doesnt work like the shell.  It was a cut and paste hack. Obviously
he just included it in since he left the COPYRIGHT notice intact.  If he 
looked into it, instead of copying it, he would have seen some flaws.

>He liked the way another system did messages, and conferance, so he made
>his similar, and that _was_ a rip? I don't understand...

Correct!  Thats exactly what the author of the original post was talking
about.  Ken is a hypocrite, thats all.  EXCELSIOR! was designed with CNet
in mind, don't get me wrong, it was just designed a lot better thats all.
Ken just cant face up to the facts.  He knows he stole code. 

>(I saw the copyright notice in the AUX handler, and that C does look
>awfully familier, I wish he'd use an app-icon under 2.0). Even if he did 
>'borrow' some stuff, most of it is his, and I still think it is one of the 

Great, dont steal too much, just a little wont hurt anybody.  Like I said 
before, he included the code, probably never really looked at it.  Most
of the source released is to help others.  Not for people like Ken to cut it
out, put it in their code, and then sell it!

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