Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:38:39 -0500
Reply-To:     "Demetrios E. Paneras" <dep@BUENGC.BU.EDU>
From:         "Demetrios E. Paneras" <dep@BUENGC.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Fake Update.
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu
Comments: cc: gavriel@socrates.umd.edu, perkon@scf.usc.edu,
          peter@engr.trinity.edu

Kalnspera...   Eixa ligo kairo  diathesimo snmera, opote erriksa mia  matia
sta fakes  tov teleutaiwv nmerwv.   Tha  'thela   va epibebaiwsw (xwris  va
sxoliasw - ntav polu apla) oti ta parakatw ntav ovtws fakes:

1. H diapseusn tou  teleutaiou fake update pou dnthev  bgnke apo to account
mou.  Dev eixe Subject.  Mia episnmavsn stnv lista  egive apo tov Xaralampo
Mavtzaridn (92.12.17).   (Eutuxws pou to  eide, giati dev douleuei to REPRO
mou,  kai dev blepw auta pou stelvw...)
2.  Eva mail dnthev  apo tov Petropoulo, me   "Subject: Stoko, baru Dramino
maggaki, prosexe!".  Episnmavsn pali apo tov Xaralampo (92.12.17).

Dev avaferomai  edw s' auta,  nrthav apo to  engr.trinity.edu - ntav dnladn
apo autov  pou   paideuei tov  mailer tou  Bafeiadn  edw kai  meres, kai  o
Xaralampos edeikse ta problnmata tous...

Kata tnv apopsn mou, ta kaivourgia fakes (xthes kai snmera) ntav:

1. Apo tov Bafeiadn, xthes, me "Subject: O plastografos evtopisthke !".
2. Apo tov PFK, snmera, me "Subject: Ki allo fake."
3. Apo tov Gabrielato, xthes kai snmera, me  "Subject: Teleutaio  mail prin
   fugw - Fake"  kai  "Subject: Kai  ta  duo prohgoumena  mhnumata mou htan
   fake!!!"

Dnladn, to mail to PFK me "Subject: Re: Ki  allo fake." (vai, ekeivo me tis
wraioteres  euxes gia to  veo etos pou exw dei  pote mou  :-) kathws kai ta
mails  tou  Gabrielatou  "FAKE UPDATE!!!" kai    "Feugw  re, paw spiti mou"
(kathws kai kapoio podosfairiko), ntav authevtika... (vomizw! :-)

Ksekivw me tou Bafeiadn:

|> Received: from VM1.tucc.trinity.edu by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (Mailer R2.08
|>           PTF008) with BSMTP id 9730; Mon, 21 Dec 92 08:31:53 EST
                                                        ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: from TRINITY by VM1.tucc.trinity.edu (Mailer R2.08 PTF008)
|>           with BSMTP id 8344; Mon, 21 Dec 92 04:52:00 CST
                                                ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: from engr.Trinity.EDU by VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP
|>           V2R1) with TCP; Mon, 21 Dec 92 04:41:03 CST
                                            ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: by engr.Trinity.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA71769; Mon,
|>           21 Dec 92 04:43:05 CST
                       ^^^^^^^^
|> Message-Id:   <9212211043.AA71769@engr.Trinity.EDU>
|> Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.hellas
|> Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:43:05 CST
|> Reply-To: Peter Vafeades <peter@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU>
|> Sender: The Hellenic Discussion List <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|> From: Peter Vafeades <peter@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU>
|> Subject:      O plastografos entopisthke !
|> Comments: To: hellas@engr.Trinity.EDU
|> To: Multiple recipients of list HELLAS <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|>
|>    Telika ton brhkame ton fake! O atimos eixe plastografhsei kai ta
|> telnet logs kai den htan apo ekei pou nomizame! To Electronic Security

Apo tis wres faivetai oti auto to gramma movo apo tov Bafeiadn dev nrthe...
Kat' arxnv, gia va paei apo to engr.Trinity.EDU sto VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU to
gramma dev mporei va  ekava MEION duo  lepta  kai duo deuterolepta...   Apo
tnv alln, ta 11 lepta pou ...  kathotav  to gramma  mesa sto VM1 eivai ligo
uperbolika, dedomevou tou oti ntav  bathia mesavuxta, to mnxavnma kata pasa
pithavotnta dev stevaze apo tnv douleia!  Telos, dev  eimai sigouros ti sto
kalo ekave to gramma tis duomisn wres pou ekave va paei sto UGA apo to VM1,
kai tnv upoloipn oloklnrn wra pou perase mesa sto UGA.

Kata pasa pithavotnta,  to telnet egive kat' eutheiav  sto  UGA, stis 9:28,
kai ola t' alla eivai astoxa kai paraplavntika...

As koitaksoume twra to fake tou  PFK, pou prodwthnke  polu eksupva, otav ta
headers  pou xrnsimopoinsav  oi  plastografoi  ntav  palia, kai   etsi  dev
edeixvav  ta upgrades  stous  mailers pou   exouv  kavei to aludra  kai  to
chaph.usc.edu!

|> Return-Path: <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|> Received: from chaph.usc.edu by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with
|>           TCP; Tue, 22 Dec 92 12:36:02 EST
                                 ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: from aludra.usc.edu by chaph.usc.edu
|>           (5.64+/SMI-3.0DEV3-ucs+2.9) from user chaph id AA41477; Tue,
|>           22 Dec 92 10:39:25 PST
                       ^^^^^^^^
Lathos 1: To mail apokleietai va pnge se  -1 wra kai  tria lepta...  Av dev
          apatwmai  n California eksakolouthei va brisketai 3 wres pisw apo
          tnv Georgia, no?
Lathos 2: O mailer tou chaph eivai twra (4.1/SMI-4.1+ucs-3.0)!

|> Received: by aludra.usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-ucs+2.9) id AA56799;Tue,
|>           22 Dec 92 10:39:31 PST

Lathos 3: To idio kai me tov mailer tou  aludra...  Exei  allaksei sto idio
          (4.1/SMI-4.1+ucs-3.0)!

Episns,  ta   rologia tou  chaph  kai  tou   aludra   exouv diafora  movo 2
deuterolepta!  Tha ntav pithavo, dnladn, to chaph va eixe paralabei to mail
duo deuterolepta prwtou to steilei to aludra!  Alla oxi 6!

|> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
|> Message-Id:   <9212221039.AA45689@aludra.usc.edu>

To message id to bazei to aludra, ara tha eprepe va eivai .AA56799...

|> Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.hellas
|> Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:39:31 PST
|> Reply-To: Perikles Konstantinides <perkon@SCF.USC.EDU>
|> Sender: The Hellenic Discussion List <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|> From: Perikles Konstantinides <perkon@SCF.USC.EDU>
|> Subject:      Kai allo fake.
|> Comments: To: hellas@uga.uga.edu
|> To: Multiple recipients of list HELLAS <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>

Dnladn, to parapavw dev tha eprepe kav va prospathnsw va to eksngnsw, aplws
kai movo epeidn exei tosa polla lathn...  Ekkolaptomevoi xakerades re paidi
mou...  Pavtws, edw to telnet egive sto uga.cc.uga.edu...

Telos, ta duo fake tou Gabrielatou.

Edw ta pragmata  dev eivai toso apla.  Htav  polu duskolo  va  brethei poia
ntav fake kai poia oxi.  Alla n avalusn basizetai sto eksns:

1. To socrates.umd.edu me to brownvm.brown.edu  exouv diafora stnv wra tous
   1 lepto kai 37 n 38 deuterolepta...  Opote av kati eftase pavw  apo 1:38
   priv fugei, eivai fake.
2. Epeidn o mailer tou Gabrielatou dev bazei message ids,  to id ta bazei o
   listserver.  Dev eivai duvatov oi xakerades va kserouv POTE tha parei to
   mail o listserver, opote ta Message-Ids pou bazouv (pou  exouv  tnv wra)
   prepei va eivai lathos, ektos ki' av eivai polu tuxeroi!
3. To   message id  pou  bazei  o  listserver exei  kai   ta   ekatosta tou
   deuteroleptou.

|> Received: from BROWNVM.BITNET by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LISTSERV release
|>           1.7e) with NJE id 9832 for HELLAS@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU; Mon,
|>           21 Dec 1992 15:32:57 -0500
                         ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: from BROWNVM by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with
|>           BSMTP id 3519; Mon, 21 Dec 92 15:30:43 EST
|> Received: from socrates.umd.edu by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
|>           with TCP; Mon, 21 Dec 92 15:20:00 EST
                                      ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: by socrates.umd.edu (1.36.108.4.1.1/16.2) id AA31399; Mon,
|>           21 Dec 92 15:23:01 -0500
                       ^^^^^^^^
|> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
|> Message-Id:   <HELLAS%921221152399@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
                               ^^^^^^

Lathos 1: To Message-Id dev  exei ta deuterolepta,  alla paei kat' eutheiav
          apo ta lepta, sta ekatosta tou deuteroleptou.
Lathos 2: H wra  sto  Message-Id  (15:23)   dev   sumfwvei me  tnv wra  tou
          listserver parapavw (15:32).
Lathos 3: To gramma  ekave -3 lepta kai  1 deutero va  paei apo to socrates
          sto   brownvm,  dnladn   ligotero  apo  to   epitrepomevo  -1:38.
          Aduvatov!

|> Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.hellas
|> Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:23:01 EST
|> Reply-To: Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
|> Sender: The Hellenic Discussion List <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|> From: Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
|> Subject:      Teleutaio mail prin fugw - Fake
|> Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu
|> To: Multiple recipients of list HELLAS <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|>
|>    Auto einai to teleutaio mail tou 92 apo mena.Tha ta ksanapoume.
|>   Stamathste epitelous ta fake ! Opoion piasw na stelnei

Kata pasa pithavotnta, to parapavw  stalthnke  me telnet kat' eutheiav  sto
brownvm.

As doume kai to epomevo fake tou Gabrielatou:

|> Received: from BROWNVM.BITNET by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LISTSERV release
|>           1.7e) with NJE id 6538 for HELLAS@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU; Tue,
|>           22 Dec 1992 07:58:32 -0500
                         ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: from BROWNVM by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with
|>           BSMTP id 6855; Tue, 22 Dec 92 07:58:05 EST
|> Received: from socrates.umd.edu by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
|>           with TCP; Tue, 22 Dec 92 07:44:08 EST
                                      ^^^^^^^^
|> Received: by socrates.umd.edu (1.36.108.4.1.1/16.2) id AA91977; Tue,
|>           22 Dec 92 07:46:27 -0500
                       ^^^^^^^^
|> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
|> Message-Id:   <HELLAS%92122207462399@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

Lathos 1: H  wra  sto  Message-Id (07:46:23)  dev  sumfwvei me  tnv wra tou
          listserver (07:58:32).
Lathos 2: To mail ekave - 2 lepta kai  19 deuterolepta  gia va paei  apo to
          socrates sto brownvm.  Aduvatov!

|> Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.hellas
|> Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:46:23 EST
|> Reply-To: Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
|> Sender: The Hellenic Discussion List <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|> From: Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
|> Subject:      Kai ta duo prohgoumena mhnumata mou htan fake!!!
|> Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu
|> To: Multiple recipients of list HELLAS <HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu>
|>
|> Kai to fake  kai h diapseush tou htan fake!!! Autos pou paizei me ta fake as
|> exei upopsei tou, oti an ton piasw kapote (pou tha mou paei, kapou tha ton

M'  auta sas  afnvw gi' apopse...   Pavtws dev  perimevw va  kavw autnv tnv
douleia gia polu akomn...  O ogkos twv fakes eivai polu megalos pia...  Egw
lew va  paradwsoume tnv  lista stous  xakerades, kai va snkwthoume oloi  va
fugoume...  :-(

Dnmntrns Paveras.
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