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From: peterw@spider.co.uk (Peter Woodhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Where is Chris Rea from?
Keywords: rea
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:30:07 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

In article <7911@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> shmulevi@gibbs.physics.purdue.edu (Ilya Shmulevich) writes:
>Could someone please tell me where Chris Rea is from? His music sounds like
>he is from the United States, but he is certainly more popular in Europe.
>European record buyers have made him one of the most successful rockers on
>the continent. His songs from "New light through old windows" were
>chart-busters east of the atlantic.
>

Middlesbrough, Cleveland, England

Peter

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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Looking for "LEGEND" soundtrack...!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:57:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.222023.13127@muddcs.claremont.edu> irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith) writes:
>In a prior article, Mika O. Latokartano (mol@jyu.fi) writes
>>   Only, are you sure the CD just didn't happen to be "Legend" by Clannad?
>
>Speaking of which, does anyone know if this guy is available on CD, and if
>so where I might find it? I think I had this information once before, but
>have since lost it... Thanks!

Yes, it's available on CD, but only as an import from the UK. I don't have
my copy handy at the moment, but I'm sure it's an RCA release. I bought
it only a few months ago so it should still be in print. It's got the same
picture on the cover as the US tape release.

                                        -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
From: t9014170@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Bill Champlin
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:29:45 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

Does anyone know if a new Bill Champlin CD was released in Japan 
I think about late February of this year. 


					DOC!!!!!!
 
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From: mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Columbia House
Organization: Salivation Army
Distribution: na
Date: 22 JUL 92 13:16:14    


In article <BrswuB.87o@cs.dal.ca>, 
  coombs@ug.cs.dal.ca (Robert D. Coombs) writes...

>I think I can safely assume that the CDs were either stolen or lost
> in the mail, my friend who I joined the club through got his 2 free CDs a
> week ago.. I was wondering what happens in a case like this, are they
> usually pretty good about sending you the CDs again?

  Yes.  Just write or give them a call, and they'll replace the CDs.

- snopes

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From: parekh@brussel-sprout.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ashesh Parekh)
Subject: RE: Discman/Discmen/Discpeople?
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:42:42 GMT



>Don'y know if I can get to BITNET from here, so I'll follow-up.  This
>is a common problem with Discmans (Discmen?) (PC: Discpeople?).  I've
>.....


How about "portable disc player"?

-Ashesh
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CDs mastered from records (and shouldna been)
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:18:24 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul28.170935.11314@umbc3.umbc.edu> hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Scott Hannon; PHYS (GRAD)) writes:
|In article <1992Jul26.173046.19359@wlbr.iipo.gtegsc.com>
|fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski) writes:
|>
|>Well, I was listening to the newly-rereleased James Gang Yer Album, and
|>things were going relatively fine (sound is fairly good), when upon
|>reaching "Side 2", what do I hear but the old familiar clicks and pops
|>of a CD obviously having been (at least half, anyway) mastered from an
|>LP.
|>
|[deleted]
|>
|>Are there any other similar CDs that one would be better off without?
|
|I can think of a few (non-boot) titles, but I don't necessarily feel
|I'd be "better off without" them.

Agreed.  I've got a Django Reinhardt disc that was obviously mastered from
vinyl.  The surface noise is quite obvious.  I believe much of it was 
recorded in the '30's so I can't complain.  

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From: "jp krivas" <jp.krivas@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: chris rea
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:28:30 EST
Reply-To: "jp krivas" <jp.krivas@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


I heard Chris Rea is collaborating with Dire Straits.

They're going to call themselves:  Dire Rea


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From: aa590@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Kraley)
Subject: The Final Cut (A Dub For The Saints?)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:46:09 GMT


There is a new group out called the Final Cut.  Apparently, they 
completed a 20 minute version of their instrumental song called
"A Dance For The Saints"... The 20 minute version featuring chanting
vocals and soothing synth riffs is called "A Dub For The Saints"

I can't seem to find any information on it.  Does it exist?  Where can
one find such a single?

Thanks.

-- 
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hitting Meggy in the face.  Meggy replied, "Dinner's ready, darling."

Jason Kraley, aa590, go music ... This is not subliminal.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Subject: Re: Genesis (again)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:10:30 GMT

In article <jdb1.711745458@kepler.unh.edu> jdb1@kepler.unh.edu (Jonathan D Baumgartner) writes:
>Could someone send me the list of the US/UK differences among Genesis
>albums?  I know this was posted before, but I lost it.
>
>Thanks.
>

Could someone please send me the list, too?  The only differences I know are in
_From Genesis to Revelation_, _Spot the Pigeon_, and inclusion/exclusion of lyric
sheets (I've gotten lyrics to every studio album except FGTR, _Wind and Wuthering_,
and _Abacab_ by buying used Charisma imports for $3 or so).
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Taping CD's
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:08:38 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <thurlow.712285416@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>
>I have a Teac with dbx, and while it gives me the most extended
>frequency response (my Dolby mistracks) and the best dynamic range,
>I can hear it breathe a little too easily to like it.  I can't use
>dbx in my car with my current deck, which doesn't help, either.  I
>prefer to use Dolby C for my taping; I really don't hear Dolby
>messing with my signal, and the noise is pretty effectively out
>of the picture.  Also, playing a Dolby C tape back with Dolby B
>is fairly close to "right", and Dolby B is everywhere.  I've not
>heard Dolby S, but I expect it could be more listenable than dbx.

I have an outboard dbx box which I transferred to a new deck having
Dolby S last year. So I've been able to compare both on the same
deck. Dolby S is definitely more listenable when not properly
decoded (as in a car). Also I have not been able to detect 'pumping'
and other compander artifacts as with dbx. I've pretty much abandoned
dbx for new recordings.


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From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Taping CD's
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:38:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

>>No doubt these questions have been asked before but I just began receiving
>>this part of the net so no flames.
>> 
>>Should I leave DOLBY on when taping a CD? When playing the tape?
>>If I have a type II cassette should I record onto the tape with the tape 
>>machine set for T-II or something else?
>>And any other advice people can give.
>
>You should not copy CD's but buy them ! Just kiddin', this is NOT a flame !

My tape deck has 2 forms (?) of noise reduction, Dolby and dbx.  On
the dbx side, it has settings for "tape" and "disc".  I bought the 
stereo sans owner's manuals.  Does the "disc" refer to compact disc?

Just wondering...

Jeff           wayman@lamar.colostate.edu
From: simon@cs.city.ac.uk (Simon Brock-Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD Lifespan
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:19:22 GMT
Organization: City University, London

In article <14JUL199211495948@rigel.tamu.edu> rkb6116@rigel.tamu.edu (Mr. Weather) writes:
>Earlier, simon@cs.city.ac.uk (Simon Brock-Gunn) writes...
>
>>I have seen CDs being made - it's done like this:  Firstly a disc of
>>warm, soft plastic is created.  Secondly this is stamped under pressure by
>>a large metal die.  Next, the coating of aluminium is sprayed onto this
>>stamped surface and finally a second coating of plastic is spread over the
>>aluminium.  So, in practice, it is the plastic that "contains" the data.
>
>How thick is the second layer of plastic?

Thinner than the first --- let me elaborate on my explanation:

The whole setup looks a bit like a lathe, with the CD being created
vertically at one end, and various bits of machinery coming at it from one
end.  The CD is created onto a circular flat metal plate, which has a
central column sticking out of it (this is where the hole in the CD will
be).

1	A disc of soft plastic is splurged onto the metal plate (I don't
	have any knowledge of this process other than having seen it be
	performed, and this bit was hidden by the machinery that did the
	splurging).

2	A die comes in from the other end and presses into the disc of
	plastic.  It stays there for a few seconds, presumably while the 
	disc is cooled down a bit.

3	After the die is removed, the partly-formed CD starts to be
	rotated.  A jet of aluminium is sprayed onto it as it rotates.

4	A doughnut-shaped ring of molten plastic is piped around the
        centre of the CD and this is spread out across the CD, as it
        rotates, a bit like spreading butter on toast.

5	The edge of the CD is trimmed with a knife, it stops rotating
        and is popped off to be sent for printing, packing, etc.

This was all seen when the Virgin Megastore in London had a CD factory in
the basement, and you could look in at them being made whilst choosing
your CDs.  I suspect one reason why it is no longer there is because it
pointed it how absurdly simple and cheap it must be to make a CD.

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From: mehrpuya@rtsg.mot.com (Djamschid Mehrpuyan)
Subject: CUSCO
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:01:05 GMT

Does anyone know how I can get the following CDs from the
newage group CUSCO ?

         Cusco release                  Label
         -------------                  -----

     1.  Desert Island                 Prudence
     2.  CUSCO II                      Prudence
     3.  Cool Island                   Prudence
     4.  Planet Voyage                 Prudence
     5.  Virgin Island                 Prudence
     6.  Island Cruise                 Prudence
     7.  Concierto de Aranjuez         Prudence
     8.  Tales from a distand land     Prudence
     9.  Ring der Delphine             Prudence

Thanks
    -Dj

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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Stones CDs
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:40:07 GMT

ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
>Does anyone know of the sound quality of Rolling Stones CDs? 

On a related note, has anyone bothered to do A-B tests on different CD
issues, since the Stones catalogue moved from WEA to CBS (pre-Sony)
and now to Virgin?

gld
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From: clark@cme.nist.gov (Steve Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD package
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:53:18 GMT
	<1992Jul27.234712.736@cc.uow.edu.au>
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
In-reply-to: u9264442@cc.uow.edu.au's message of 27 Jul 92 23:47:12 GMT

>>>>> On 27 Jul 92 23:47:12 GMT, u9264442@cc.uow.edu.au (Andrew William Easton) said:

Andrew> What bugs me is that most record stores insist on
Andrew> you taking the CD in a little (or sometimes not so little)
Andrew> plastic bag.

Take the bag back next time you go.  Or just dump your CDs in the car
and take it right back in.  In any case, the bags won't have to
biodegrade, and it's just possible that they might get the message ...

-steve		clark@cme.nist.gov
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Bennie & the Jets, studio version
Keywords: Elton John, Bennie & the Jets
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:02:25 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <coons.711642473@barracuda9> knight@rtsg.mot.com (Paul E. Knight) writes:
<My wife was wondering if a studio version of Bennie & the Jets was ever
<recorded by Elton John ??  If so, is it readily available on some media ??

Huh?  I never knew that it wasn't a studio recording.  If this is the one that
I am thinking of, they took a studio recorded and doctored it to make it
appear like it was a live recording.
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From: fred@isl.Stanford.EDU (Fred Vachss)
Subject: WANTED:  Jethro Tull Box Set
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:18:07 GMT

Would anybody know where I can find a copy of the Tull box set.  It's been
out of print for about a year now and none of the local stores have copies
anymore.  

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks, 
Fred Vachss


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From: larry@csccat.cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Sony's SBM CD Mastering
Summary: cynical as hell
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:53:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <1992Jul29.044659.13058@news.cs.brandeis.edu> rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>The special packaging of the expensive releases might be worth it to CD nuts 
>(this includes me).  The packaging supposedly will offer "nearly LP size 
>artwork".

As has been mentioned in email, yes, I'm cynical as hell about SBM.  Would
someone pay $24 for the remastering alone?  Not many.  Would someone pay $24 
for the "nearly LP size artwork" alone?  Not many.  Would someone pay $24 for 
gold discs alone (with the same mastering)?  Not many.

Sony is smart enough to realize that the way to go is to upgrade the artwork,
disc appearance %), and mastering all at once, giving the illusion that this
is a worthwhile investment (and to some, I'm sure it is).  It's interesting
that there have already been irate letters to ICE complaining about how ICE
swallowed the "gold discs don't make your CD player work as hard" bit hook,
line, and sinker.  Stereopile (sic) may be a Sony critic, but ICE sure isn't.

Descending further into total cynicism %), doesn't it seem that Sony is
trying to milk the older yup/postyup crowd into buying their old favorites
over and over?  I've done this with LP->CD, as there can be a huge improve-
ment in quality, but I'll be very surprised if SBM offers as dramatic an
improvement.  We'll probably never get a direct comparison of CDs made with
identical EQ from an identical analog master, one with normal oversampling 
A/D and one with SBM.  With all the cues like gold discs, big artwork, compu-
terese acronyms (are any other graphics people out there puking on "Super
Bit Mapping"?), only a double-blind test is going to show whether the sound 
is really better.  Tests where the Sony guy says, "and NOW we'll listen to 
the SBM disc!!" are not exactly unbiased...

If people fall for this in large numbers, expect Sony to do the same thing
for any upgrade -- put it out in a special edition at high price to get the
"can't wait and willing to pay" customers first, then eventually trickle
the technology down into the "merely $15" discs later for the people who
can't or won't pay $24.  We can't bitch about high prices if we don't have
the willpower to refuse to pay them.

-- 
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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: squeaky tape player, noisy CD motor
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:42:18 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <Bs0rM6.G8u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> phc65823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter H. Chou) writes:
> 
> Hi, this might not be the place to ask, but is there anything
> one can do about a squeaky tape player and a noisy CD head, I guess
> it would be.  It makes noise (whirs) whenever a cd is loaded/unloaded
> and whenever it does a seek.

The squeaky tape deck, get it cleaned an lubricated and maybe it
will shut up.  These problems aren't always that easy to clear up,
especially if it's due to age and wear.

The CD thing, that may just be normal.  It's not unusual for them to
make some descreet noises when they are doing coarse positioning and
whatnot.

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From: cmlee@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Chen-Ming Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Art of Noise Discography?
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:16:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley


Hi all, the subject line says it pretty much.  Please post, or email
to me if you have them.  Or if you know any ftp site I would be happy
to explore it on my own.

Thanx much!


- Tom, "owns a Technics SL-XP300 and is very happy"
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Help! Looking for these CDs!
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:34:49 GMT
Reply-To: ken@netmail.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin


Subject says it all!


-Xavion - "Burnin' Hot"

 This was a mid-eighties funk/metal/dance band. If not CD, any
 format would do.

-Steve Lukather's solo album

 This was released within the last year or so and featured
 a number of guest artists (like Eddie Van Halen). May only
 be available as an import.

Let me know if you can help. Thanks!



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From: coombs@ug.cs.dal.ca (Robert D. Coombs)
Subject: Columbia House
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:34:59 GMT

 I joined Columbia House about 2 months ago (My free selections were in the
 mail 2 months and 2 days ago, actually), and have yet to receive the CDs
 in the mail, although I have received 2 catalogs (the 2nd one came in 
 today). I think I can safely assume that the CDs were either stolen or lost
 in the mail, my friend who I joined the club through got his 2 free CDs a
 week ago.. I was wondering what happens in a case like this, are they
 usually pretty good about sending you the CDs again? (I'm in Canada, BTW,
 so I'm not sure if it's much different from the US version of the club).
 Could someone tell me the 1-800 number for Canada, if there is one.. I'll
 probably wait for a few more days before doing anything, in case the mail
 is just being really slow (as usual)... Thanks...



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From: mkrieger@hayes.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: CD package
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:39:53 GMT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Jul27.234712.736@cc.uow.edu.au>, u9264442@cc.uow.edu.au (Andrew William Easton) writes:

> In Australia CDs are generally sold in just the standard storage box, but
> some are shrink wrapped. What bugs me is that most record stores insist on
> you taking the CD in a little (or sometimes not so little) plastic bag. The
> major complaint here is that they will not let you say no, so you have to
> take the bag which is biodegradable - in a few hundred thousand years. That
> is what I call not environmentally sound.

I'm not sure how widespread the chain is, but Sound Warehouse, which I have
found to have decent prices for new CD's (I buy used when I can), has always
allowed me to take my purchase sans bag.  I also am very self-conscious about
the amount of packaging that surrounds my purchases, and I always make an
effort to go without bags when possible.  As a suggestion, keep trying to avoid
the bag every time you go into the store, and if you must take the bag, 
question the policy.  Enough questioning might make some dents in some minds.

MLK