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From: cknight@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Chris Knight)
Subject: 24-bit Colour Editor?
Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn
Summary: Is there a 24bpp colour editor about?
Keywords: 24, colour, editor
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:48:31 GMT
Expires: +10 days

Howdy,
	Does anyone know of a paint package/pixel editor that can be used on 24
bit colour images; ie Clear or TIFF images. It would be handy to alter some of
the GIFs and Amiga IFFs I have without destroying the original colour format
by using the Sprite format. BTW, I don't have the money to buy Artworks yet, so
don't suggest it :-)
	Hmmmm, maybe I've just come up with something to do during my summer
holidays :-)
	Thanks in advance.
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From: thughes@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Tom Hughes)
Subject: Re: PC Emulator
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:21:22 GMT

In article <28282@castle.ed.ac.uk> ainsjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (Steffan Corley) writes:
>Does anyone know if the upgrade to the latest version of the PC Emulator
>(from version 1.7 or whatever - the one that was in the A5000 learning
>curve) is still available? If so, how much does it cost (incl. VAT), who
>should I send a cheque (+ original discs?) to and who should the cheque
>be payable to?

The original price was #9 + VAT, but that ran out at the end of August
(I sent mine in with about two days to go). I'm not sure what the cost
is now, or even if an upgrade is available now, but I'm sure Acorn
Customer Support could tell you.

When I upgraded mine you had to send it to Acorn Direct (Vector
Marketing) in Wellingborough.

Tom.

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From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: The new Acorn Machine
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:40:45 GMT

In article <gilbertd.721643489@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> gilbertd@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert) writes:
>The other point is that if RISCiX was a LOT cheaper,
>and it was available for the A5000, they would have the
>cheapest Unix workstation going, and I know a lot
>of people who would be pleased with it.

It's up to guys like you to port Unix yourselves if you want a free
one.  Acorn *can't* do it cheaply because of the AT&T licence.  You
should be thinking about doing a 386bsd...  trouble is, there are
a hundred times (at least) as many good programmers out there with
386 boxes as with archies.

It seems to be the rule rather than the exception that grand projects
for the archie just fizzle out. (Or is there still activity on gcc
for risc os, or minix?)

G
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From: vaughanm@cs.man.ac.uk (Vaughan Marks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: A5000 Monitor Problem
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:33:36 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester


It seems to me that the monitor supplied with my A5000 is slightly 
out of focus! I put up with ut for a while, thinking it was probably
my eyesight but others agree that it is very fuzzy.

Has anyone else had the same problem, and is there a cure for it? I 
would appreciate any help.

Cheers,

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From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: RISC iX origins (was Re: The new Acorn Machine)
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:47:07 GMT

In article <vskq9x@SantaFe.edu> andy@laguna.santafe.edu (Andy Mell) writes:
>Eh? 'Paid for' ?? - I thought BSD 4.4 was to be free as all AT&T code had been
>removed. I also thought it was more or less the same as the 4.3 BSD NET/2
>release too, which BSDI and 386 BSD are simply free ports of.

It's supposed to have neat hooks in the filesystem for adding extensions;
and I've used its Mach-style vm-mapped files interface which makes a real
difference to certain types of jobs.

G
By the way, whoever paid for their tape... want a bet you don't see it
for a *long* time?  I've heard they're sitting on them until the ATT mess
is cleared up, but not officially - they'll just take forever in the post...

PS For some reason BSDI have already got bits of 4.4 that haven't been
given to jolitz.  Strange, eh? (No, not really)
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From: u2prh@ohm.york.ac.uk (Paul R Hedderly - H601/92)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Hard Disc Choices
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:33:31 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK


I have an A3k, RO3.1 and 2Meg. However it is very quickly becoming
apparent that I really need a Hard Disc. A quick comparison of the
Arc/PC mags show that the average Arc user seems to be ripped off.

I would like to know if any users have successfully bought an Acorn/Oak
or other SCSI/IDE interface and used a 'standard' pc SCSI/IDE drive.
If so, could you mail me, telling me which card (does teh A3k have a
hard disc interface ?), and drive, the size and cost.

I am really looking at the 50-120Meg region, and not at hard cards. I 
would be willing to use an external drive and get a plynth of some kind.

Also - which is better/more flexible of IDE and SCSI ?



Please please let me know (I am a student => cashless)

Thanx
	Bungle!!


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      (or pbhedder@nyx.cs.du.edu)		Thanx all:
							Bungle!!



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From: gpalmer@cs.strath.ac.uk (Gary J Palmer IE91)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: Using custom screen modes with RO3.1
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:12:07 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:
->gpalmer@cs.strath.ac.uk (Gary J Palmer IE91) writes:
->
->: ones that can not be easily cured (I don't call formatting the hard disc
->: easy))
->
->  Formatting the hard disc IS easy - keeping your data is the difficult bit

Surely it's only easy if you have the formatter???!!!! Risc Developments
haven't finished their formatter yet...... if they have they haven't
sent it out to me yet :-(

Anyone know of an IDE formatter that will work with a RISC Delevopments
IDE Interface??

Gary
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From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Subject: Re: Replay Harrier @ Newcastle
Telephone-Messages: +44 223 33 4900
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:36:57 GMT

In article <BxwqHC.M4n@cen.ex.ac.uk>, CDLatham@cen.ex.ac.uk (C.D.Latham) writes:
>
> I don't think you quite understood what Clive Jones meant Gary.  He
> doesn't mean nfs on a UNIX machine, I think, but pcnfs on an Arc.

Well, yes, except it's not called _PC_nfs on the Arc. (-8

> Theoretically it could work by exporting a directory on a UNIX machine
> containing the Replay files to the world.  It would be a bit hard to
> hack the files if they were on CD ROM (:-).

It would be a bit hard to hack if it was a read-only nfs partition, too...
The files would really have to be downloaded to a hard disc, if the server was
to stand any chance of servicing more than one viewer at once. My thoughts were
that Acorn, in particular, will presumably have them all on a hard disc
somewhere anyway.

> Ftp between JANET sites with JIPS goes at about 15 - 20 Kbytes per
> second and I suspect Replay files need a bit more bandwidth than that
> so even if one could mount the directory they couldn't be used
> directly.

I think your JIPS link is slower than ours, then. The bandwidth required would
be 60Kb/sec for the 12.5fps demos, or twice that for 25fps (obviously). I
reckon more than a few sites can stomach that.

--Clive.
From: andyf@uk.sun.com (Andrew Fox - Sun UK - Answer centre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn
Subject: Re: PC Emulator
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:47:32 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Ltd.
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In article 11952 ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:

[stuff deleted}

>b) Acorn didn't actually go out of their way to bring anyones
>attention to the matter, like actually telling anybody. I mean they
>spend loads of money sending you useless advertising for things you
>don't want, but when it comes to useful information they don't bother
>writing to the peoplewho bought the package do they - oh no that would
>be helpful. Instead they rely on people scowering the magazines for
>snippets of information (which usually flatly contradict each other).

I don't think that this is quite true.

Of the three dealers that were local to me at the time (in SW London),
two of them had Acorn announcements detailing the upgrade path on
show. Full instructions were given on how to upgrade from any version
of the eumlator, and how much it would cost. In addition to that, the
dealer from whom I bought the emulator did a mailshot to all his registered
users telling them about the upgrades. If only more dealers were like this....

This dealer may well have been the exception, but Acorn did do a mailshot
to all their dealers about the upgrades and presumably it was then up to
the dealer to ensure that users were aware of it. If your local dealer didn't
have the information on show, ask him why. If Acorn aren't getting proper
support from their dealers, then it's not just the users who will suffer in the
long run.

Andy.

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From: microsoc@oxford.ac.uk (Robin Watts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Subject: Re: The ARM Club (actually nothing to do with)
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:53:21 GMT
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Organization: /u3/microsoc/users/rjw/.organization
In-reply-to: ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk's message of 16 Nov 92 10:36:40 GMT


In <Some silly article> Ian Plamer says:

[quote from Philip Banks about Zap]

>   At least it doesn't bugger up the rest of the system font displaying,
>   like just about every other AW program does. 

I was not aware that Zap had appeared on AW - If it has, then it is as a piece
of PD, not as an AW 'owned' app. (Perhaps this is why Zap works :-))

>   The only think I'd REALLY like with zap is the promised handling of
>   Basic programs.

This should hopefully appear within a couple of weeks. (Dom has almost finished
Oh no more Lemmings :-))

Robin
From: dcw-a@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Subject: Acorn typo
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:39:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England


Extract from the acorn press release:
	Hants School Chooses Acorn - Again!

	Perin's Head of IT, Margaret Goodwin, explained that he chose Acorn's new
							     ^^
							   
Do acorn have a proofreader? Or is there actually a bloke called Margaret at this school?

Sorry, just in this age of technology I like to see things screw up ;-)


	Doug.
	
	
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From: cknight@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Chris Knight)
Subject: Acorn's Advertising Campaign
Followup-To: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Summary: Acorn Aust's needs to take note from Acorn UK
Keywords: advertising, intelligence, marketing
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:01:00 GMT
Expires: +10 days

Howdy,
	Isn't it wonderful to see Acorn launching what sounds like a decent
advertising campaign to sell the new Acorn machines? Have they finally woken
up to the fact that sales to education will not keep them afloat, when the
majority of education centres will have to opt for cheaper machines due to
tighter budgetary policies? Or is it simply the fact that Acorn are not making
enough money flogging off the ARM chips, or their joint ventures with Apple and
co. seem to be failing? It would be nice to hear from some-one at Acorn to
dispel these rumours and give us the truth. Mind you, we may then see some-one
on the net asking for a job :-)
	Seriously, it is good to see Acorn finally getting around to marketing
the Acorn machines properly. Acorn Australia should take note and introduce the
Acorn A3010 to its range, and adopt the same aggressive marketing that Acorn UK
seem to be doing. If anyone at Acorn is reading this, do the right thing and
lean on your partners in the Antipodes to sell the A3010. People in Australia
do want these machines!

Note: I did not use the word 'Archimedes' in this post, because I don't know
      what the new machines are called. Then again, Acorn probably doesn't
      know either :-)

Remember: Please direct flames to Acorn UK or Acorn Australia. :-)
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From: jont@harlqn.co.uk (Jon Thackray)
Subject: Re: Acorn's Advertising Campaign
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
	<1992Nov18.095719.11938@aston.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:59:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.095719.11938@aston.ac.uk> davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:

   Chris Knight (cknight@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au) wrote:
   : Howdy,
   : 	Isn't it wonderful to see Acorn launching what sounds like a decent
   : advertising campaign to sell the new Acorn machines? Have they finally woken
   : up to the fact that sales to education will not keep them afloat, when the
   : majority of education centres will have to opt for cheaper machines due to
   : tighter budgetary policies? Or is it simply the fact that Acorn are not making

     I think that Acorn knew perfectly well that they had to advertise to get the
   general public interested in their machines but until recently, they haven't
   been able to afford to spend a small fortune on an advertising campaign...

     Just my thoughts

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For those with long memories, the last time Acorn spent a really large
amount of money on an advertising campaign was Christmas 1984. Shortly
after they very nearly expired and had to be rescued twice by
Olivetti. So don't be too keen to ask them to spend small fortunes
advertising, there may be down sides to the equation!
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From: ee91mds2@brunel.ac.uk (Mark D Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Subject: Re: Acorn's Advertising Campaign
Keywords: advertising, intelligence, marketing
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:53:49 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <1992Nov18.020100.1324@cam.campserv.utas.edu.au> Chris Knight writes:

>Note: I did not use the word 'Archimedes' in this post, because I don't know
>      what the new machines are called. Then again, Acorn probably doesn't
>      know either :-)

At the Computer shopper show, the acorn guys doing the presentations in the
acorn theatre were actually using 'Archimedes' as a general term for the
whole 32 bit range, including the new machines (A3010 etc.)

Mark.
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From: ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Subject: Re: The ARM Club (actually nothing to do with)
Date: 16 Nov 1992 13:58:38 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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In article <MICROSOC.92Nov16125321@black.oxford.ac.uk> microsoc@oxford.ac.uk (Robin Watts) writes:
 
>In <Some silly article> Ian Plamer says:
 
>>   At least it doesn't bugger up the rest of the system font displaying,
>>   like just about every other AW program does. 
 
>I was not aware that Zap had appeared on AW - If it has, then it is as a piece
>of PD, not as an AW 'owned' app. (Perhaps this is why Zap works :-))
 
That's not what I meant to say. Ooops! comes to mind!

What I was refering to was that the only other time I've seen anything
display the system font half height in multiscan modes (in desktop) was
with AW programs (usually unintentionally). This happens quite a lot with AW
programs (I've had at least 4 do it). So when I said 'about every
other AW program' what I meant was (as a rather exagurated statement)
that about one in two AW programs do it (ie. every other), and not
'every other' as implying that Zap was an AW program (which it ain't).

Now that should have sorted that one out, or confused matters even
further :-)

Ian

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From: ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Subject: Re: The ARM Club (actually nothing to do with)
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:36:40 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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In article <2yLdBqj025n@khantazi.welly.gen.nz> banks_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>   The only problem I have with Zap is that is doesn't cope well with Multisync
>modes. I can't say I like looking at half height text myself. Will Dom cure
>this defficiency in Zap?
>
>    Philip

Oh I quite liked that :-), It would be nice to keep it as an option...

At least it doesn't bugger up the rest of the system font displaying,
like just about every other AW program does. 

The only think I'd REALLY like with zap is the promised handling of
Basic programs.

Oh, and while I'm on the subject of AW (:-)) this month's disc
(December) is the best (or worst) yet. Apart from the usual "let's
bugger up their system font", two programs DON'T ACTUALLY WORK!!!!!!

Do they even run these things once? Has anyone managed to get that
(not that I really want to use it) Mastermind program to work. You
just can't get anywhere. And (so I've been told, I didn't get that far
with the program) the crossword program crashes when you try to look
at the clues (with subscript out of range error).

Sorry to spoil the "how many things won't work this time" excitment
for anyone, I know it's about as exciting as AW gets (apart from when
they tell us how well they check things :-) )

Ian

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From: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis)
Subject: Re: Acorn's Advertising Campaign
Organization: Aston University
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:07:01 GMT

Lindsay McEwan (lindsaym@castle.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov18.020100.1324@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>, cknight@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Chris Knight) writes:
: 
: |> 	Isn't it wonderful to see Acorn launching what sounds like a decent
: |> advertising campaign to sell the new Acorn machines? Have they finally woken
: 
: 	I don't mean to be overtly critical, but I have yet to see
: much of this promised asault on the media.  I think I blinked at the
: wrong moment. :-)
: 
  I have seen the ad three times (which isn't bad over three days)

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From: lindsaym@castle.ed.ac.uk (Lindsay McEwan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.advocacy
Subject: Re: Acorn's Advertising Campaign
Keywords: advertising, intelligence, marketing
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:24:57 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University, Dept. of Artificial Intelligence

In article <1992Nov18.020100.1324@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>, cknight@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Chris Knight) writes:

|> 	Isn't it wonderful to see Acorn launching what sounds like a decent
|> advertising campaign to sell the new Acorn machines? Have they finally woken

	I don't mean to be overtly critical, but I have yet to see
much of this promised asault on the media.  I think I blinked at the
wrong moment. :-)

	I do agree that Acorn should be pushing their machines harder.
I think they have relied on a sort of 'cult' reputation for long
enough.


lindsay mcewan.
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