From: pnmideast@igc.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Zagreb Diary
Date: 20 Jul 92 05:37:00 GMT
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Subject: Zagreb Diary

/* Written 10:05 pm  Jul 19, 1992 by wam@zamir-zg.comlink.apc.org in cdp:yugo.antiwar */
/* ---------- "Zagreb Diary" ---------- */

Zagreb Diary
16/17-07-1992

Dobar Dan,

So after Savka's party opened the front of the poster war the 
town is full of election posters, Tudjman smiles on a lot of 
wall and Paraga next to him (on his poster the words in 
Croatian, all Croats back to their home and in English, 
UNPROFOR go home !), beside Savka and all the leaders of the 
different parties. I must admit that Paraga's posters are 
more get throw off than other (just to make absolute sure to 
you that Paraga is not really loved by most of the Croatians, 
I write about him since he is the most obvious representative 
of fascism in this country, but not that he is representative 
for his country, the ideas from HSP and HOS are surely not 
well spread, they exist and I like to warn from them, their 
influence will grow, they call upon nationalistic tendencies, 
no help from abroad is extra seeds and fertilisers on their 
grounds).

Now a lot of flags turn into Dark red, grey, dark blue this 
new fresh flood of colours is fantastic, of course most of 
them use red-white-blue, but still, white is white, but for 
how long. This has nothing to do with war, but all with 
airpollution, after three months highering of prices of oil 
still there are enough cars to turn white flags grey in two 
months. HSLS is about the only party which basically use 
other colours, blue and yellow.

But more important for us is that the first volunteers are 
arriving and they bring with them often some extras they 
collected at home to make this camps work. And we were so 
afraid we couldn't get it together. Now I can tell you the 
Croatian volunteers have done their share, 2 tons of cookies, 
paper for the whole period, busses for excursions for all the 
three camps, balloons, toys, and whatever. The whole actions 
is announced on bought youth as normal HTV in special spots, 
made by one of the co-leaders and so on. The foreign people 
will be surprised how much press attention there will be for 
this joint initiative. 

We will play a frontline role in the person to person 
humanitarian add, those foreign volunteers will have overcome 
some prejudices against foreigners, but they will be prepared 
for it, I hope. The problem of the refugees will be spread 
over Europe afterwards and hopefully that are the seeds for 
grassroots humanitarian aid. When the Austrians Greens phoned 
today with the qeustion what I thought about the elections, 
should they send, monitors or not I indirectly made them 3000 
Dem lighter (so we can organise at least one of the camps 
without worrying about money). 

Nobody of us needs to take sides as long as we take sides for 
those who have to suffer from this war. Hardly none of them 
have wanted. 3 million people in BiH are or homeless or under 
attack, far over 700.000 refugees and homeless are now 
registrated in Croatia. We are not helping anybody much by 
airlifting some children out of this countries, or even the 

newest form of evacuating and adopting groups of children out 
of these countries. Like the Rumanian children two years ago, 
and more known the Korean babies. It is important that 
children, especially get safe medical treatment (as have 
animals in Zoo for another reason (a messages about the bad 
situation was posted in another conference)), and of course a 
lot more. 

The killing and shelling have to stop that is the only 
solution and not stopped by mass NATO involvement, this NATO 
fleet in the Adriatic scares the hell out of me. Pointed at 
Beograd, means also pointed at me. In this case I am solidair 
with my friends in Beograd and can follow caa.visitor (Center 
for Antiwar Activities Beograd, ported from ZaMir-BG, yes, 
yes) completely in her urgent appeal.

How many people have to died, why says Paraga (sorry), on a 
meeting in Karlovac, that all Croats have to unite and show 
Moscow and Beograd that they can fight. Or Seselj the same 
from the other side, another, a Serbian general, said 
yesterday evening that Serbs are not afraid for Nato and will 
fight when necessary the whole world to protect their 
freedom. 

Than I like the reaction of the Orthodox Church in Beograd 
better, who call upon the Muslim and Catholic church in 
Zagreb to have a joint meeting. In the Muslim Center of 
Zagreb both of the Church leaders in Croatia met each other 
and had the first round of talks how to react on that 
request, I keep you updated, but when it take place it will 
be world news anyway.

Another message came today (yesterday) from Slovenia, where 
the GB minister for foreign affairs, Hurt, had a visit (sorry 
I can see his face without remembering the puppet they made 
from him for "spitting image", how can you take him serious). 
Anyway he sat there and the Slovenian minister of foreign 
affairs gave the statement that the war in BiH was nothing 
else than a war between Serbia and Croatian to press the 
Muslims influence out. Of course Tudjman reacted straight 
away what they meant in Ljubljana with that statement. This 
can of course be a nice political conflict for the coming 
weeks during the elections.

For the rest the news was as always, I said to Vesna, 
wondering that I could say that after been drinking it in the 
first week like honey. I know the stories already...
(words written as have heard) Hitna Pomoc (urgent help)...., 
purva lina...., fronta, dramateski...., houwitza..., civilni 
objecta...., yugo yojska...., Bosnia Herzegovini...., 
Mostara...., ministrovo...., pet (5) miliona dollara...., 
most of it need no explanation I think. The pictures come in 
top of it, a burning house, a grenade hitting a building, 
destroyed civilian houses, some desperate looking refugees, 
and so on and so on. You probebably make the picture up 
yourself already. You are no fools.

It is holiday time and the researcher and students are 
coming. One after another they are passing by in the Center> 

It cost us hours, but still it is important to get the 
messages across. To come back on those Greens from Austria 
the news they brought was something to be schock of. The 
Green are discussing a full economical boycot or something 
like that, in every case there should be a boycott of 
military related technology and weapons of Croatia, since 
Croatia is undemocratic and fighting in Bosna. Yes why not 
raise the tension, be stupid, create fascism you can say. 

Please people when ever one of you are involved in such 
discussions place your reaction on the net. We in Zagreb do 
not know what is going on their. We want to participate in 
those discussions. 


With Love from ZA-mir-GREB,

Wam:-)
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