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From: Paul.Elkins@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Paul Elkins)
Subject: Re: Adrenaline
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:18:10 GMT

In article <memo.623310@cix.compulink.co.uk> bburgar@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>
>
>"ADRENALINE AND NORADRENALINE
> These two hormones are produced in a pair of glands just above the
> kidneys as part of the body's response to stress... Research by the
> British Heart Foundation suggests that while adrenaline is produced
> by negative, passive emotions like anxiety and uncertainty, noradrenaline
> is a response to more active emotions like competition, anger and aggression
> Malcolm Carruthers, Director of Clinical Laboratory Services at
> the Maudsley Hospital, South London, lists noradrenaline-stimulating
> experiences car driving, competitive behaviour, cigarette smoking, coffee
> drinking, cold (the bracing sort), copulation and most highly recommended,
> physical exercise."
>
>
>>Noradrenalin is a substance produced by the firing of the vagus nerve
>>(which terminates on the heart...sorry, I know terminates isn't the
>>proper term but I'm a net.geek).  Because it's right on the heart,
>>it has the almost instantaneous effect of speeding up the heart rate.
>>This is the effect that most people are referring to when they talk
>
>
>What ever the method of production and whichever hormone is actually
>responsible I still get "the rush" in a stressful situation, but I have
>found that I can control it reasonably well. I can also produce it on
>demand (mostly), unfortunately I have to "work it out" as quickly as
>possible otherwise I have "the shakes" for quite some time afterwards.
>
>
>Does anyone else feel the effects the same way?
>
>

Who says Usenet is not educational?
I really have no idea if it is adrenaline or noradrenaline.  It takes me
a minute or two to "work it up".  I get "the shakes" as well but just for
a few minutes (maybe not as long as "quite some time".)

I wonder if there is any practical use for such skills.
I had always assumed that the effects were detrimental.
Why raise your blood-pressure when you have no need?

				- Monta


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From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Internal Arts...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:02:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.135555.1354@cs.rose-hulman.edu> acharya@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>i often hear t'ai chi, bagua and hsing-i (xingyi?) in the same sentence. 
>is there a lot of similarity in these three arts?

Essentially, the "internal" part of all three is almost identicle. The
only difference is how these techniques are combined.

>what is the main concept behind each of them?

T'ai Chi is fairly passive: In a fight, it would generally use the
opponent's actions against him (sort of like a fairy tale, where he
gets his wish, but not really the way he intended...) The best description
of T'ai Chi fighting I've heard, is that it is all about helping your
opponent (helping him into the wall, then helping him onto the floor, 
then...) Since these martial arts were developed by daoists, in would
probably be fair to call T'ai Chi a very yin style.

Hsing-I is the reverse: It is about moving in a straight line, and
making life extremely unpleasent for anyone in your way. If T'ai
Chi is very yin, Hsing-I would be very yang.

Ba Gua combines both these approaches (each style is built around
eight palm changes, each one some permutation of yin and yang
approaches.) It is built around (hopefully) fluid, circular and 
twising motion, and was intended to deal with multiple opponents.

                                               Frank Crary
                                               CU Boulder

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From: dad1@ra.msstate.edu (Daniel Doss)
Subject: Hapkido Seminar with Grandmaster Kwang Sik Myung.
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:21:08 GMT






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Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Chi Cultivation
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:55:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.205220.1849@udel.edu> weigand@pecan.cns.udel.edu writes:
>I'd like some input as to what are some exercises you all do to try to 
>get 1) your chi energy increased  2) your chi flowing into parts of your
>body 

It isn't exactly chi gung, but you might try to feel your entire body,
at the same time (not concentrating on your foot, then shifting
your attention to your arm, then to... but all parts similtaniously.)


                                                Frank Crary
                                                CU Boulder
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: New Movies...
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:00:38 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Sep10.160429.14573@ncsu.edu> jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch) writes:
>I don't know what style B.L. studies,

	Jeet Kune Do.  (Duh... :-) :-)
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From: cyeomans@ms.uky.edu (Charles Yeomans)
Subject: Re: kicking from the ground
    <3646@unisql.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:42:46 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <3646@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.210434.18974@worldbank.org> LGOODIN@WORLDBANK.ORG (Laura Goodin) writes:
[editing performed]
>	Joint attacks and chokes are an order of magnitude more effective
>in a groundfighting situation.  And you can't run away if you get an opening.
>
>	I don't question the wisdom of learning groundfighting, just 
>the idea that that's her best position.
>
>

In one of the "John Gilbey" books, I recall that there is a story
about a woman who was accosted by a judoka.  Following Bobby
Knight's infamous advice, she decided to lie back and enjoy it.
According to the story, she especially enjoyed applying th 
technique called dojime - she got her legs around his waist
and squeezed until he passed out.

I'd be curious to know if such a technique exists by this name, if there
are any ju-jitsu people reading.

CHarles Yeomans
cyeomans@ms.uky.edu
yeomans@austin.onu.edu

From: natalies@hplsla.hp.com (Natalie Schuchard)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:25:33 GMT
Subject: Re: conflict avoidance
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts


If there is interest I can post the list of (as of 1990) most
Model Mugging Group in the US. 
            Yea or Ney and I'll post in a Day!!
                 Natalie

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From: gints@roadkill.esd.sgi.com (Gints Klimanis)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: pull/sprain
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:26:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <BuLnEw.1rD@news.udel.edu>, rajagopa@me.udel.edu
(Gopalakrishnan Rajagopalan) writes:
|> I sprained the lower part of my gluts while doing splits on chairs.
|> Considering it to be a case of a simple sprain I proceded on a
|> dosage
|> of Ibuprofen but this did not work. Ben Gay etc proved futile.
|> I desperately need some advice on what corrective steps to take so
|> that
|> I can get back into training as early as possible. Incidentally I
|> have a green
|> in taekwondo and am really raring to resume practice.
|> Waiting for a positive reply soon.
|> Thanx in advance

Consult an orthopedic surgeon or some other specialist.  Don't accept
medical advice from well-wishing but medically untrained net dwellers
!!
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From: stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark)
Subject: Re: Savate and Muay Thai kicking principles (was Boxing and Kicks)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 11 SEP 92 11:36:11    


scollins@wpi.WPI.EDU (Suppasak Collins) writes...
>>
Peter>>The commonly given analogy is that a Muay Thai kick is like a blow with a
Peter>>baseball bat, and a Savate kick is like a blow with a ball-peen hammer.
>>
[deleted]
Peter>>OK, so that's Muay Thai -- you're throwing haymakers, all the time.
> 
Art>Actually, the leg is bent as you begin to rotate your body to kick and
Art>it snaps outward as you hit your target.  Contary to most belief, there
Art>is a snap in a Thai roundhouse.  But it only snaps outward, there is no
Art>snap backward, which makes a boxer hit through the target.
> 

That's a great description.  I think I discovered mechanics like this
by accident.  I started off with snap kicks in TKD training, but when I varied 
my technique to try to get more wallop trading off for multiple kicking
ability, which I never really desired, I discovered a very natural feeling 
kicking form that sounds very much like what you're describing.  I start the 
kick like a loose snap kick, but then turn my hips as it approaches the target, 
and slam it through the target.  It not only gets a lot of body weight, but 
also hits the target with surprising terminal velocity, making a double 
whammy.  The people I used to train with in TKD would laugh at me practicing
that way on the heavy bag, until they felt what the hit was like on the body.
I'm too awkward to get it to work on anything but a heavy bag for high kicks, 
but it worked great on the thighs and body.  

							thanks,

							todd
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From: weigand@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Steve Weigand)
Subject: Re: Silent or vocal sparring?
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:21:56 GMT

In article <lafm1vINNa3o@west.west.sun.com> garth@dojo.West.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 16136@ucsu.Colorado.EDU, fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.203350.5825@bnrmtl.bnr.ca> carbon@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Peter Carbon) writes:
>>> So what do you people think? Is it better to fight silently, thereby
>>>conserving energy, or to use kiais to perhaps disconcert your oppponent
>>>and add more emphasis to a strike?
>>
>>My vote is for silence: There are better ways to disconcert an 
 ...stuff deleted...
>>                                               Frank Crary
>>                                               CU Boulder
>There are some cool things you can do to intimidate an opponent.  One
>guy I know could get this look on his face that made him look like
>a homicidal maniac.
>
>One thing I learned from my street fight days...look at the guy with
>a steady gaze, slight smile on your lips, move your head, slowly, like
>your saying "no", but just a little bit of motion.  It give the opponent 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the feeling like he is being CLOSELY examined.  This does have a
>psych-out effect of many people.  I've even had people comment on
>it.
>
>I've never been big on opposite psych-outs...but some people swear by it.
>
>	-Garth

Wow! I knew of someone at my old taekwondo dojang who did the same thing
with the "saying no" type of thing. It was really intimidating. Gave me
the sense like he was saying, "You haven't got a chance, boy!" I knew that
he was doing that to intimidate me, so I smiled at him to see what it 
would do... on occasion he'd smile too.

- Steve Weigand

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From: c8908461@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Robert Lang)
Subject: Re: ****** Help with flexibility *****
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:04:52 GMT

shane@psych.psy.uq.oz.au (Shane Brown) writes:

>Howdy folks,
>    My fabulous, guaranteed guarantee, "some refuse to be inflexible"
>strategem is really quite simple. Do not allow yourself to watch
>that brain-death promoting, cathode ray-gun, consumer producer that
>some call the TeeV, unless you are stretching at the same time.
>Works for me. Not only do you gain flexibility, but you also watch
>less television, because half the time you are facing the floor or the
>ceiling stretching a hammy, or whatnot.
>    Of course, this only works if you watch TeeV. If you are into
>watching videos, then put the remote control 6 inches past your toes, then
>attempt to grasp it while doing a double leg hamstring stretch (before
>you start the video). Remember, cheaters never win. This strategy also
>works for short-sighted book worms.
>    ...and if all else fails, you can start stretching at age eight and
>never stop (like me 8). OK, so I'm stretching the bounds of credibility...
>oops, that one was really reaching......

>Cheers, Shane.

I agree totally...what I do is study while stretching....wack a book
on the floor, go into side splits and read !  Does wonders...TV is
a good one too, although I find it harder to stick to it for some
reason...boring shows I guess.

Robert.



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> ~...AND KIDS, FEEL FREE TO             Only the bad, the brave,  ~
> ~  TRY THIS AT HOME !!                 and the dead can win.     ~
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From: westreic@oc.nps.navy.mil (Eric Westreich)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Wrestling
Keywords: Gracie
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:59:55 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

In article <11445246.4.715834086@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 11445246@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (THOMAS HAYWOOD) writes:
>>>	The boxing vs. karate debate exactly reminds me of the way
>>>some judoka feel about wrestlers.  "Wrestling is all strength and too
>>>limited to be of any real use.  A lot of grunting and sweating.  Not
>>>precise at all".
>Anybody ever heard of the Horion Gracie.
>He has taken on karateka, judoka, boxers, etc.
>He only lost once, to a guy 100 pounds his senior.
>
>Tom.

Although pronounced Horion, his name is actually spelled Rorion.

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-Eric
 westreic@oc.nps.navy.mil
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From: CA.FER@forsythe.stanford.edu (Jennifer Gates)
Subject: Re: Model Mugging (long)
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:04:42 GMT

wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>
>        I'm not sure I understand this.  If I was a lighter person with
>less upper body strength the very last place I'd want to be is in a
>ground fight.  I understand teaching _anyone_ how to work on the ground,
>but I don't understand the "ground is her strongest position" part at all.
>
From the ground your upper body can be protected by your legs which
are your stronger part. This prevents you from having to 'play their
game' by avoiding strikes or striking with your upper body... Thats
all...

Fer
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: kicking from the ground
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:38:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.165202.22573@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> sv6f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Steven  Velasquez) writes:

>>>In one of the "John Gilbey" books, I recall that there is a story
>>>about a woman who was accosted by a judoka.  Following Bobby
>>>Knight's infamous advice, she decided to lie back and enjoy it...

>>Just for the record, I hope you know he didn't actually say this

>Actually, I remember the news broadcast with the interview in question.
>I remember Bobby Knight actually saying almost those exact words. 

You seem to have missed the first half of his remark (which radically
changes its meaning): He said, "If there is nothing she can do about
it, a woman might as well try to..." This isn't exactly a sensitive
remark, but it is _very_ different from the "women should just..."
attributed to him. The way he actually said it, it is essentially
an expression of fatalism, not perjudice against women.

                                              Frank Crary
                                              CU Boulder
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Upcoming Martial Arts Movies
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:19:07 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Organization: Florida State University

In article <kheldar.716140373@vincent1.iastate.edu> kheldar@iastate.edu (Gregory E Swanson) writes:
>Show some respect.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Greg Swanson     Honourable Student - Chung Kim's Black Belt Academy
>  "If a man refuses to be humbled - destroy him."  - Kickboxer
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thanks for the laugh.

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
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From: Paul.Elkins@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Paul Elkins)
Subject: Re: Chi Cultivation
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:41:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.214939.5588@cbfsb.cb.att.com> osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X) writes:
>	though this is not in reality the case.  I have always been able to 
>	dump HUGE amounts of adrenalin into my system at will (indeed I have
>	had problems at times keeping the levels down since I surge sometimes
>	just at the thought, which I have always found odd.  Any of you have
>	this happen?) and can say for certain that this is not happening.
>
>	-Andy V.

I find the comment about generating adrenaline at will interesting.
I can do that as well, but maybe not "HUGE" amounts; and it takes some 
concentration.  It drives my blood-pressure way up.
I, also, find it happening inappropriately or at least out of proportion
to the "threat", sometimes.  Curious.
			
				- Monta
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From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: groundfighting
Date: 12 Sep 1992 19:43:39 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep12.182313.1819@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) writes:
>In article <18r5pcINN43e@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:
>>Well, this is her best strategy.  The question, though, was about strongest
>>position, which sort of implies immobility, doesn't it?
>
>I'm not sure I follow this: Could you explain what connection there
>is between a strong and an immobile position?

None.

Just that, in my mind, "a mobile position" is something of an oxymoron.


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From: rybskip@edsi.plexus.COM (Paul Rybski)
Subject: What is the martial art Sangen-Ryu
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:10:00 GMT
Summary: What is the martial art Sangen-Ryu?
Keywords: Ryu

A friend of mine is studying a martial art Sangen-Ryu (I have no clue
whether I'm spelling this right or not) at UW-Madison.  It seems to be
mostly an art devoted to infighting and self-defense at the grapple
level, but that's just the impression I got from her.  It also seems to
be a pretty isolated (?) or new martial art, since the masters (I think)
all herald from Michigan.  Can anyone enlighten me on it?

-Paul Rybski
Rybskip@edsi.plexus.com
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From: adrian@robots.ox.ac.uk (Adrian Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Model Mugging (long)
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:05:15 GMT
	<1992Sep14.182834.1907@athena.mit.edu>
	<1992Sep14.192314.4589@athena.mit.edu>
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Oxford University
In-reply-to: ras@athena.mit.edu's message of 14 Sep 92 19:23:14 GMT

Here's something I haven't seen mentioned yet in this debate.  There
was a documentary on TV here recently about women's self defence.  In
it, we were told that fighting an attack did not increase the chance
of being killed by the attacker, in fact it increased the chance of
surviving and of avoiding rape.  I believe this comes from UK crime
statistics, and may be because guns are very, very rare here and
knives uncommon in sexual attacks.

Does anyone have any real figures on this?  I've been told several
times that the ``don't fight, you'll aggravate him'' advice is based on
urban myth.  The advice given by the TV programme was ``scream, shout,
and fight, unless he's got a weapon''.

Also, remember that a large proportion of sexual assaults are
committed by someone the victim knows.

- Adrian
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