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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.railroad
Subject: Re: British Rail (was: French train fares soar)
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:49:15 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) wrote:
> The British government is no longer content with a starvation policy.
> With the Conservative victory in the last election, they are now doing
> their best to *disassemble* British Rail.  The last I heard -- and my
> news on British railway subjects tends to be a couple of months old --
> the idea was for the government to retain ownership of the tracks, but
> to sell off the trains and the right to operate them to private companies,
> thus creating the same situation (though with the government and private
> sector roles reversed) that has caused so much difficulty for Amtrak.

They've already started a pilot run of this idea.  Part of one of the night
trains between London and Edinburgh was run a bus company called Stagecoach
(who used to run a budget no-frills no-unions service between London and
Edinburgh till they went bust and were taken over by some larger firm; I
don't know exactly what operations they continued, I haven't seen their
buses for a while).  They bought some old BR rolling stock and hooked it
into a BR train.  The then Minister of Transport was on the first run early
this year.  That is, he was on the *beginning* of the first run.  After the
cameras were off him he went to the BR part of the train where he'd
pre-booked a sleeper compartment rather than spend the whole trip enjoying
Stagecoach's idea of comfort.  I don't know if the Stagecoach carriages are
still running.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill)
Subject: Re: Colorado
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:58:55 GMT

In article <6964@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> grre@hp850.mbari.org (Rebecca Gross) writes:
>I would like to know if anyone on the net is from Colorado.  If so, I
>would like information about living there.  I am getting desperate for
>information.  Only thing I've heard is that it is a beautiful state.
>
>I basically would like information on jobs, wages, cost of living,
>weather year round, etc.
>
>Please e-mail me at grre@mbari.org

What about the political climate of the state?  I obviously don't
know what your politics are, but you don't appear to have heard
news about Colorado.  From an email group for women in computer
science that I read:

>As many of you probably know, on Tuesday, Colorado voted in an
>ammendenment to their state constitution which revokes any existing
>gay/lesbian/bisexual civil rights legislation and prohibits the
>drafting of any new legislation.

>This is a repressive, regressive win for a right wing fascist-like
>organization inappropriately self-named Colorado Family Values (CFV).
>It is my understanding that they have no intention of stopping their
>hate campaign here; they intented to push for legislation with a
>stronger discriminatory flavor here in Colorado and surrounding states.

So if you like the idea of moving to a state who's citizens support
such legislature, by all means move to Colorado.  Personally, I
wouldn't want to live in a state which isn't interested in protecting
the civil rights of _all_ of its residents.
-- 
Linda V. Hill                           Email: linda@net.com
Network Equipment Technologies          Phone: (415) 780-5785
800 Saginaw Drive, 23.2.3               Fax:   (415) 780-5001
Redwood City, CA 94063
From: tae@novell.com (Tae Kyong Song)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info needed about Spain
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:33:23 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

In article <1992Nov20.042611.26474@mech.t.u-tokyo.AC.JP> sato@ccc.pe.u-tokyo.ac.jp writes:
>
>1. Can I reserve a train of SNCF departing from Cerbere(a station on
>   the border between Spain and France), while I'm in Spain(Madrid or
>   Barcelona)?
>
You probably can, but I think you still need to go to RENFE office.
I don't think they'll let you reserve over the phone.  (In Madrid, 
It is a lot easier to go to one at Plaza De Espana rather than train 
stations).

>2. Am I safe at night in Madrid ?
>   I will arrive in Madrid about midnight. I hear it dangerous to walk
>   alone at night in Spain. Does any one tell me the actual situation
>   or what should I do. Of course, I will reserve a hotel room for the
>   first night beforehand.
>
I don't think you need to worry about safety in Spain. I was there
this Sept-Oct, and I didn't have any problem. But then, safety may be
relative thing. I was from U.S, not Japan...  I stayed mostly in
Puerta Del Sol and Del Prado area and it was just fine. It is the
noise that you need to avoid more than unsafety at night.  The crowd 
noise dies down usually after 3 am, so try to get a room away from 
the street whenever you can. It was same deal in Barcelona around 
La Rambla, where I stayed.

Well, I hope you enjoy Spain as much as I did.

----
email		tae@novell.com
phone		(408)473-8439
address		2180 Fortune Dr. San Jose, CA 95131
From: pietro@nova.bellcore.com (Pietro Manzoni)
Subject: Re: Strange and Unusual stops in the U.S.
Reply-To: pietro@nova.bellcore.com
Organization: Network Technology Research Lab, Bellcore
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 20:29:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.195819.2209@tandem.com>, Herberg_David@tandem.com (David Herberg) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.230556.22487@engage.pko.dec.com> 
|> bechtler@asdg.enet.dec.com (Laurie Bechtler) writes:
|> > In Cumberland Falls State Resort Park, KY, you can see one of only
|> > 2 moonbows in the world.  This is a whitish rainbow over a waterfall
|> > seen only under a full moon.
|> 
|> Only two in the world?  Get serious.  Any waterfall wherein you can see a 
|> rainbow during the day will also have a moonbow under a full moon when the 
|> moon moves into the same spot.  I have taken several photos of 
|> moon/rainbows.  They are only whitish because our eyes are less sensitive 
|> to color at low illumination levels.  Time exposures reveal a full color 
|> rainbow, as well as a blue sky (with star trails).
|> 
|> David Herberg, Herberg_David@tandem.com

I like the way scientist dream ;-)

Pietro
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jacquier@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Eric Jacquier )
Subject: Re: England to Scotland
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:35:46 GMT

jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:

>It would make a lot more sense to go to Norwich 

Since we are into alternative suggestions:
Go to YORK. It's close to London, (1hour from Cambridge). It's
beautiful, medieval center etc.. By spending a few pounds in that
august city, you will contribute to repairing an injustice. It was
the place where one of the great kings of England learnt government:
		RICHARD III
  Unfortunately villipended by the Tudor history rewriters
  such as Shakespeare.
EJ
.
From: aszilard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Agnes Szilard)
Subject: Re: Moscow travel agency offers...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:43:39 GMT


> Dear Sirs,

There are women on this net, too...

Agnes Szilard
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: mattf@cac.washington.edu (Matthew Freedman)
Subject: Two Months in South America
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:54:50 GMT

I have two months or so available to travel (February and March
probably), and I am planning on going to South America. I am interested
in suggestions on which country(s?) to go to. I definitely am not
interested in trying to do a whirlwind tour of the continent, I will
probably go to just one, maybe two countries. Which would you recommend
and why?

Some criteria:
  I am interested in "lonely-planet" style travel, i.e. budget
  backpacking. 

  I would like to spend at least a couple weeks in a spanish school to
  brush-up (and I don't want to have to learn portuguese).

When I was in Guatemala this winter, the overwhelming majority of
people I met coming up from South America said that Colombia was their
favorite country. I had been planning on going there, but the
situation seems to be getting worse and worse, so I think I may put
that off for another trip.

By the way, if anybody is interested, I can send you a write-up of my
Guatemala/Honduras trip.

		   -- Matt


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Peter Loibl)
Subject: Re: German Christmas Fairs
Organization: Technical University of Munich, Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:47:21 GMT

acb@moscom.com (Amy Bourquin) writes:

>My parents will be traveling to Germany from November 29 to December 10
>Specifically for Christmas festivities
>Does anyone have any ideas or must sees?

Christkindlmarkt in Nuernberg (Nuremburg).

Peter Loibl
pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: roy@mcnc.org (Subhash Chandra Roy)
Subject: Hotel tel and/or fax
Summary: Room Reservation @ the Taj Intercontinental Hotel, Bombay, India
Keywords: Hotel India
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:21:57 GMT

I'm going to a VLSI conference in Bombay, India in January.  I need to make
a room reservation for the Taj Intercontinental Hotel, Bombay, India, but 
the advanced program didn't have an address, phone number, or fax number
for the hotel.  Can anyone help me out.

Subhash
From: anshu@guinness.bu.edu (Anshu Aggarwal)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: New Orleans
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:03:02 GMT
Reply-To: anshu@guinness.bu.edu (Anshu Aggarwal)
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Boston University

Any recommendations for places to stay and things to do on a four day
trip to New Orleans in early December - on a moderate budget? Thanks.



						   - Anshu Aggarwal
						     (anshu@bass.bu.edu)
"Morality is the herd-instinct in the individual."
				      	- Friedrich Nietzsche
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Myanmar
Date: 17 Nov 1992 09:39:24 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Myanmar
============================================================
Myanmar (Burma) - Consular Information Sheet
 November 13, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located at 581 Merchant 
Street, Rangoon.  The telephone number is (95-1) 82055.

Country Description:  Burma, renamed Myanmar in 1989, experienced 
major political unrest in 1988.  A military government has been in 
power since that time.

Entry Requirements:  Travel to and within Myanmar is strictly 
controlled by that country's government.  Passport and visas are 
required.  Single entry visas, for a stay up to 14 days, requires a 
$16 fee for a tourist visa and $30 fee for business visa.  Tourists 
must be part of a tour group.  There is limited entry at three 
border posts, including Tachillk, for tourists who come by land from 
Thailand.  Myanmar visas will be issued at the point of entry to 
individual tourists and certain group travelers beginning in early 
1993.  For further information, the traveler may contact the Embassy 
of the Union of Myanmar, 2300 S Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 
20008, (202) 332-9044/6), or the Permanent Mission of Myanmar to the 
U.N., 10 East 77th St., New York, N.Y. 10021, (212) 535-1311.

Areas of Instability:  Insurgents are active in the highland 
regions of Myanmar, but the central lowland area is generally safe.

Medical Facilities:  Hospital and medical services are available in 
Rangoon.  Elsewhere, medical care is limited.  Cholera, 
tuberculosis, plague, leprosy, and typhoid are all endemic to 
Myanmar.  Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment 
for health services.  U.S. medical insurance is not always valid 
outside the United States.  Supplemental medical insurance with 
specific overseas coverage has proved useful.  The international 
travelers hotline at the Centers for Disease Control can be reached 
at (404) 332-4559 for additional useful health information.

Information on Crime:  Security in tourist areas is generally good. 
 The level of violent crime and crime against property is low.  
There are occasional reports of pickpocketing.  Useful information 
on guarding valuables and protecting personal security while 
traveling abroad is provided in the Department of State pamphlet, "A 
Safe Trip Abroad".  It is available from the Superintendent of 
Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

Other Information:  Roads are poor in Myanmar.  Trains are not 
punctual and their safety record is poor.  Myanmar Airways (formerly 
Burma Airways Corporation) also has a poor safety record.  
Photographing persons in uniform or any military installation is 
discouraged by Myanmar authorities.

Registration:  Americans who register at the U.S. Embassy may 
obtain updated information on travel and security within the country.

 No. 92-105

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: yhayon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yehiel Hayon)
Subject: Test
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:02:37 GMT

This is a test.
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: y
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:14:41 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Solomon Islands
============================================================
 November 23, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located on Mud Alley in 
Honiara; the mailing address is P.O. Box 561 Honiara, the Solomon 
Islands.  The telephone number is (677) 23-890.  There is a 
Consul/Charge d'Affaires resident in Honiara who performs consular 
services for U.S. citizens.  The U.S. Ambassador is resident in Port 
Moresby, New Guinea.

Country Description:  The Solomon Islands form an archipelago in 
the southwest Pacific about 1200 miles northeast of Australia.  The 
capital is Honiara on the island of Guadalcanal.  The Solomon 
Islands is a parliamentary democracy within the British 
Commonwealth.  Tourism facilities are limited, and outside of 
Honiara may be of poor quality.

Entry Requirements:  Passports, onward/return tickets and proof of 
sufficient funds are required.  Visitors' permits are issued on 
arrival for stays of up to two months in a one-year period.  For 
further information travelers can consult the British Embassy at 
3100 Massachusetts Avenue N.W., Washington, D.C. 20008, tel. (202) 
462-1340 or British Consulates in other cities.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities are generally adequate.  
Hospitals and pharmacies are limited to population centers and 
missions.  The incidence of malaria is extremely high.  Many 
visitors begin taking malarial suppressants before arrival.  Doctors 
and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment for health 
services.  U.S. medical insurance is not always valid outside the 
United States.  Supplemental medical insurance with specific 
overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  Information on health 
matters is available from the Centers for Disease Control's 
international travelers hotline at (404) 332-4559. 

Information on Crime:  Major crimes against travelers are not 
common, though petty crimes against property frequently occur in the 
capital city, Honiara.  Useful information on guarding valuables and 
protecting personal security while traveling abroad is provided in 
the Department of State pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad".  It is 
available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government 
Printing Office, Washington, D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use and trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strict and convicted offenders can expect lengthy 
jail sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register at the U.S. Embassy can 
obtain updated information on travel and security within the area.

 No. 92-121

This amends the Consular Information Sheet of November 13, 1992 to 
add the information that there is a Consul/Charge d'Affaires 
resident in Honiara.

Xref: sparky rec.travel:15503 misc.forsale:31181
From: awakhras@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Amer Wahid Akhras)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,misc.forsale
Subject: Hawaiian Holiday 4 Sale
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:32:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Nov15.213233.8946
Distribution: usa
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

PLEASE RELPY TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS:
		hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu
__________________________________


NOTE: I am not a business and I am not trying to rip
anybody off. I would use this holiday but I can't afford
the time.  I say this because I have noticed people being
flamed for posting ads about vacations.

For Sale: Hawaiian Holiday.

I recently won an offer for a Hawaiian holiday. The offer
entitles 2 adults, age 18 or older, two free round trip 
airline tickets from virtually any major airport
(with published fares) in the Continental US. to Honolulu, 
Hawaii provided the hotel accommodations are booked through the 
vacation company for a minimum of TWELVE nights. The users must
stay in one of the hotels listed below and pay the prices as stated.

1.	Coconut Plaza			$75.00
2. 	Outrigger Reef			$150.00
3. 	Sheraton Waikiki		$180.00
4.	Hilton Hawaiian Village	$200.00

Based on double occupancy, run of house and rates year round. 

I have checked airline prices and they run about $700-800 round trip 
per person (from the east coast). I called the hotels to see if the 
prices quoted by the vacation company were reasonable and accurate,
which they were. I am selling this vacation for $400.00. Note that
when this is purchased from me, the travel arrangements and hotel
bookings are made through the vacation company;  the hotel payments 
are made to them. The net savings is about $1000.

If you are interested, a can send you a copy of the offer as well as
descriptions of the hotels. 

__________________________________
PLEASE RELPY TO THE FOLLOWING ADDRESS:
		hwa@fassm.jhuapl.edu

.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cgregory@cs.uiuc.edu (Christine Gregory)
Subject: Looking for Hotel with in-room hot tub -- Chicago/St. Louis area
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: il
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:12:27 GMT


This is for a honeymoonish type anniversary present.

What I'm looking for is a reasonably-priced hotel that has in-room
hottub/whirlpools.  I'm trying travel guides, etc. as well as the net,
but often what they call a "whirlpool tub" is a normal-sized bathtub
that has built-in or attached whirlpool.  Nothing wrong with that,
but in *this* case, I'd rather have a double sized bathtub (without whirlpool)
than a normal sized tub *with* whirlpool.  Anyway, what I'm hoping for is
that someone out there has stayed at/heard of such a place, and that I
can get some recoomendations (good or bad) as leads.  (And if this
post happens to leak out of the IL distribution, I'd be glad to hear
any recommendations for hotels that might be parts of chains, and therefore
might also be around here as well.)

To break down my preferences:

Within a 2 or 3 hours' drive

	Preferrably around Chicago, but St. Louis is a second choice.
	Even any other smaller cities within that radius would be
	acceptable as well, though I might be willing to pay more for
	the big cities, as there would be other things to do there.
		(This is going to be a short weekend getaway).

Reasonably priced.

	I know that depends on a lot of things, like location,
	how nice the room is (besides having the tub), etc.
	So I'm not even going to try to pin it down just yet.

I have heard of such places on the West coast, and in the Southeast,
but not around here.  I hope that doesn't mean that there *aren't* any around
here...
From: cmbr01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: England to Scotland
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:29:54 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Nov23.053903.17562@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, brit@wagner.Physics.McGill.CA (Dave Britton) writes:
> In article <sheffiel.28@bobcat.lmc.edu> sheffiel@bobcat.lmc.edu (Susie  
> Sheffield ) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I will be in England from 12/2 - 1/8/93 (London).  I hope to 
>> get to Scotland for an overnight. Is the train the best way to go?
>> Where would you recommend going in Scotland with just one to one
>> and a half days to visit?  How long does it take to get to
>> Scotland from England by train?
>> 
> Assuming you will be in London, you could get to Edinburgh in about
> 5-hours by train for around $100  return fare. However, whilst 
> Edinburgh is a fine city it seems rather pointless if you only have 
> one and a half days: You will not "see" much of Scotland.


Edinburgh is certainly a must with one of the most impressive city centres
in Europe.
However, Glasgow also has much to offer and is only 1 hour from Edinburgh.
It is possible to get OVERNIGHT train tickets at the moment between London
and Glasgow (perhaps Edinburgh) for around $40 with STAGECOACH. British
Rail (BR) tickets cost $50 - $80 at the moment. Stagecoach also provide a
free  breakfast!  BR do not.

These prices are comparable to bus fares at the moment.

Have fun.
J.
From: saxena@smsun9.crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Prepaymet for Hotels using Travellers Checks - Info Needed !!
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:39:44 GMT
Reply-To: saxena@smsun9.crd.ge.com ()
Organization: General Electric Corp. R&D, Schenectady, NY

Hi 

 We will be in Italy between 10/14 - 10/24. While making reservations
for some of the hotels, they have asked to send the complete
payment in advance through US Dollar Travellers Checks (counter-signed) 
as they do not take any Credit cards. I am not sure if this is the
right mode of payment as I will not have any receipt of payment.
What is the Check gets lost in mail ?
  Did anyone ever have such an experience? Any information will
be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks

 Mukul Saxena
 email: saxena@crd.ge.com
From: prashant@ca.merl.com (Prashant Avashia)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Paris Travel
Keywords: Seeking recommendations/general information.
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:18:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA.


A good friend of mine(without access to the net) will
be in Paris on the New Year's. 

I would appreciate any e-mail recommendations offered
on places to see/to avoid, B&B places to stay,
good/inexpensive food, travel in France/Europe, sights
and other general tourist information.

Thanks so much in advance.

	-- prashant@ca.merl.com
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: ***INFORMATION NEEDED, TRAVEL IN California **
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:52:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: iecc.9211161352.AA02590
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>I wonder what possible means are
>avaiable from LA to SF, how much they cost and how long they will
>take.

You can fly, which takes a little over an hour.  Call any travel agent for
details on schedules and prices, there are many flights and the airlines
are quite competitive.

You can take the train, which takes all day and is a wonderful and very
scenic trip.  Call Amtrak (800-USA-RAIL) and reserve early.

You can take the bus, which is considerably less pleasant.  Call Greyhound
for details, seats are unreserved so you show up and get on the bus.
There is also a company called something like California Parlor Car Tours
which runs bus trips along the slower but more scenic coastal route.
Contact a travel agent.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl