HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: frazier@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Frazier)
Subject: Re: About Brine Shrimp
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:42:40 GMT

oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev) writes:

>>or 3 cups of the brine to keep the nauplii in.  Now, you invert
>>the net into the brine, and there you have shrimp nauplii to
>>feed to your fish.

>I think this is unnecessary -- I rinse the shrimp in some fresh water and
>dump brine shrimp into a cup of fresh, settled water (from my water change 
>bucket), then use an eye dropper to feed the shrimp to the fish.  This keeps
>the salinity of the tank water from rising.

Well, I don't dump brine into fish tanks with the nauplii.  But
I do hatch enough nauplii to last for 24-36 hrs (i.e., until
the next batch is ready), and in my experience, more nauplii
are alive after 24 hrs if they are in brine than if they're
in fresh water.  To feed, I suck up brine+nauplii in a baster,
then squirt it through a brine shimp net, rinse the net and
dump the nauplii where I want them.
-- 


Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier
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From: james@ee.uts.edu.au (A. James Boswell)
Subject: Underwater speakers
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:48:07 GMT
Summary: Can you help me source underwater speakers ?
Keywords: underwater speakers


Hello,
It's a case of "the net to the rescue" again. Can anyone help me with
info about underwater speakers. I believe they are used for such things
as synchronised swimming events etc. What I am after is a manufacturer
or supplier (preferably in Australia) and a rough price.

Any details appreciated, email prefered.

Many thanks,

James.

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From: jimh@ultra.com (Jim Hurley)
Subject: Re: fish bollolexals
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 20:24:34 GMT

In <1992Apr11.020810.22350@news.iastate.edu> xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:

>in my opinion fish boles were the were(still are) the worst thinges to be 
>put on the markit. the books i read to start- befor i had fish sead to start 
>with a tack of 30 ofr more galens. i started with 10. i am into freshwater fish
>some one segested that you put a bata in the boal-bad idea battas nead to be 
>ceep at temps of at lest 82 no mmore then 86 degrees farehight to be in there
>best helth. try some uthere labrinth fish that doesnt need as strikt temp
>control

>ELF-KIN  	trying to once agen reright the anglish laguige

I don't know if you realize it but this is extremely difficult to understand.
If you want people to continue to read your postings and take you
seriously you should try to communicate in a common language instead
of inventing your own. We don't have time to decipher this stuff.

Humor is fine, and we all enjoy a good joke, but this is not
very funny, and it well past April 1.
-- 
Jim Hurley --> jimh@ultra.com  ...!ames!ultra!jimh  (408) 922-0100
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Daggett Drive / San Jose CA 95134
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: ld
Reply-To: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:14:29 GMT

It  occurs to me that you people missed the key word in my last post-
DYSGRAPHIA, a learning disability, - it relates to graphic presentations of
language. It can (as mine does) include spelling when writing or typing, slow
sloppy or childish handwriting or an inability to master cursive writing. It
means that one can't master rules of punctuation and grammer. =taken from
COLLAGE STUDENTS WITH LEARNING DISABILITIES by James W. Copley, Ph.D.
This note provided for you as you seem to be the only group who failed to
register what was being sead.

ELF-KIN 	no comment you wholdn't like it
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From: peterm@inherit.mbi.ucla.edu (Peter Markiewicz)
Subject: tubifex(?) in tank
Organization: Dept. Microbiology, UCLA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 15:42:01 GMT

  Are you sure you have tubifex in the tank? A friend of mine had what
he thought were tubifex but were actually nematerans (ribbon worms).
They are very long and red, and are harmless.
From: voneltz@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Bob Eltze)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: BABY CONVICTS
Date: 14 Apr 1992 14:56:02 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

jjz34245@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wendell Gee) writes:

>lso@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:

>>How do I take care of baby Convicts?
>>I have both eggs and very young fry from different parents in a 45 gal
>>community tank.

>I'm not sure how it will work out with more than one pair of parents though...

I once had two pairs of parents in a 20L.  Each pair kept a swarm of young on
their end of the tank.  At night the fry would scatter about the bottom of the
tank.  In the morning the parents would go around and pick up the fry to put
them back into a school.  The funny thing was that the size of the schools 
would vary every day.  One day the school on the left would be large and the
school on the right would be small or vice versa. 

I wouldn't have thought that fish as aggressive as convicts would tolerate fry
that weren't their own but these parents would protect whatever fry were on
their side of the tank in the morning and whatever fry they could grab out of
the disputed region in the middle.

The four adults and the fry were the only fish in the tank and all the fry
were about the same age (they all hatched within a period of a week).
--
Robert Eltze
voneltz@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: gevingca@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Corey A. Geving  1498520)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: "Red Empress" Cichlid
Summary: Experience?
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:07:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr16.210709.8451
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris

I recently aquired a 2" cichlid which the pet shop called a "Red
Empress."  It was (and still is) about 2" long, with a prominent black
horizontal stripe and some vertical barring on a silvery body.  The
proprietor said the fish was immature and would eventually become a
bright red color.  Since buying it, I have noticed that it is beginning
to develop an iridescent blue pattern on the lower half of the gill
cover, and am uncertain whether this fish is what I was told it was.

Also, I've been feeding it earthworms along with flakes, water is a bit
hard.  Do cichlids in general do well in hard water, or would peat water
be better?  Email responses are fine...

Corey Geving (gevingca@cda.mrs.umn.edu)

Disclaimer, Disclaimer, etc., etc...
From: tjgorn01@rigel.spd.louisville.edu (Tim Gornet)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Feeding plecotemus
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:31:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: starbase.tjgorn01.702588670
Organization: University of Louisville


You might also want to try feeding your plecostemus some zucchini and summer
squash slices. Let them drop to the bottom of the tank and overnight all you
will have left is the rind. My salads are a little smaller, but the plecos 
love it.
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Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 08:22:04 EDT
From: Corn, Jordan M. <NASJC@ROHVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: re: any pond builders?

I have only built one (smallish) pond, but have lots of literature on the
topic...building is easy; maintaining plants and frogs likewise.  Fish are
harder.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: laurence@cco.caltech.edu (Dustin Lee Laurence)
Subject: Re: Brine Shrip Ans + A Few More Q.
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:14:22 GMT

<SRK8@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>...They hatch faster in less saline water, but last longer in the
> more saline one. A better choice than just "salt" would be to use commercial s
>ea water or use 1 tsp of epson salts for every 4 tsp of rock salt.

I haven't been very happy with those packets of salt and eggs mixed.  If I
use them, I have to use the brine shrimp within a day or so, before they
die.  If I buy just eggs and use water straight out of my aquarium, there
will still be a few alive a month afterwards; a few big ones that clearly
have been there a while, and more little ones that I assume just hatched
late.

I could believe that decent salt might make a difference, but not this
much; I suppose that with tank water they are able to feed for a while.

-- 
Dustin Laurence            "Someone please stop me, before I net again."

laurence@alice.wonderland.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: laurence@cco.caltech.edu (Dustin Lee Laurence)
Subject: Re: (m) Anemone blues
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: global
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:52:29 GMT

voyager@irishmvs.cc.nd.edu (R.allen Jervis) writes:

>I have a flower anemone that until recent weeks has looked fine. Now it
>looks well, Wilted. It has moved up the glass of the tank to be right
>by the light source.(basic 15w florescent)

There may be anemones that can survive on 15w of light, but I don't know
of any.

>Pet shop boys say:"Not much you can do for anemones, if you're gonna lose them,
>you're gonna lose them..."

Don't listen too much to anyone who works at a pet store unless they
have proven themselves.

-- 
Dustin Laurence            "Someone please stop me, before I net again."

laurence@alice.wonderland.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: oleg@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: (FRESH) Tubifex in the tank
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 11:04:57 GMT

For the last few months I have been vacuuming out very long and 
healthy-looking Tubifex worms from my flame tetra tank.  I have no idea 
how they got into this tank -- I do not recall ever feeding live tubifex to
the fish in this tank, so they may have arrived on the live sphagnum moss I
have in that tank.  On the other hand, the tank had not been completely torn
down and thoroughly cleaned for almost a year and the tetras have been there
only since last July, so I may be forgetting...

It's a 10 gal tank, ~5.5 pH, ~110 ppm TDS mostly due to accumulation of 
"soft salts", ~1 KH.  I try to keep the temperature around 80F.  Half the
tank is covered with a dense mess of Java moss and (possibly still live) 
sphagnum moss.  There is no gravel, but I keep a thin layer of peat on the
bottom of the tank (hence the low pH).  The tank is filtered by a tiny
sponge filter which is mostly there to create circulation.  

So what about these worms?  Should I worry about them?  Should I starve the
tetras for a few days and force them to scour the tank for food and that way
get them to eat all the worms?  Should I ignore the worms and let them breed
in the peat moss (because they are most definitely breeding -- I am getting
large numbers of them when I strain the water-change dirt)?  

I am tempted to do the latter.  Do nothing.  These worms must have been in 
the tank for as long as my tetras been spawning in it.  The worms' presence
has not prvented the tetras from being the most prolific "natural setup"
spawners of any non-brood-tending fish I have ever kept.  Joe de Rosa
extolls the virtues of "purified" Tubifex as fry container "vacuum cleaners"
and the worms do thrive on organic debree (which is a good description of
what happens to spagnum and peat moss after a while) and the large amount of
plants (both Java moss and the dense cover of Salvinia) suck up any
additional ammonia the worms may produce...

Anyone have strong opinions one way or another? 
-- 
Oleg Kiselev, at home			....use the header to find the path
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: on filtres
Reply-To: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:51:30 GMT

tetra has a sereis of filters out right now that are cheaper then boxand easer then the normal 'good' box/cartrige/over theside ` side filters. It diosint oesn't cause break in shook and is highly recamendied by Aquareum fi Fish-they did an entier right up on is  telling what it does and how it workes . they seemed impresed. look for tetra spung filftercs were you git fihsh spellers.

ELF-KIN -- trying once agen to rewright the english languge
From: dks@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (douglas.k.steckel)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: 802 powerhead as a wet/dry sump pump
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:14:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr7.155822.24375@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> philt@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (philip.tomaskovic) writes:
>
>I was told that an 802 powerhead was adequate for running a small
>wet/dry filter and had sufficient strength to pump up 5 feet from
>the sump to the top of the tank.
>
>I bought one and it's strong enough but I'm having trouble attaching
>my return hose to it. A 1/2" ID hose fits inside the powerhead
>exhaust, but it's easily loosened and can pop out. The outer diameter
>of the exhaust seems too big for 5/8" hose and too small for 3/4"
>unless a very strong clamp (non-metal of course for marine use) can
>be attached.

I am using an 802 in my sump and it does work. I also remember using
alot of axel grease (not literaly) to get tubing around the exhaust.
As I recall I used 5/8 tubing, and once it's on it stays on. Might
try to heat the end in hot water to make things easier.
>
Doug Steckel
dks@alux5.att.com
>Can other people that use 802's for sumps tell me what hose and
>fittings they use?
>
>Thanks
>Phil
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From: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: speeling
Reply-To: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 13:14:41 GMT

im sarry the joke realy isnt- its me atempting to make light of my disgrafia.
if i atemtied to make sure every thing was speeled corectly i would lose my
train of thought completly and post nothing / or nothing worth reading/
decifering-also it has taken me a a bit of time to figuer out how to delete 
with my modom.

ELF-KIN	trying her best to be comprehensable and interesting.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: ponds/streams
Reply-To: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 13:05:49 GMT

i would request home adressis from those interested in preveuse articals
the are rathere long for post or e-mail and contain some good diagrames on
the prosesis that wold be lost. i will post mail a fotocopy to and one interested

ELF-KIN	swiming in merky water, trying once agen to rewight the english language
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: za124@zeus.unomaha.edu (John Anderson)
Subject: Fishbowls...a defense
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:00:00 GMT

I agree whole heartedly that fishbowls are not meant to house fish
for any length of time.  However I have used one as a nursery for 
quite some time now.  I had a pair of Red Wag Swordtails that got
together and "fried" my tank (pardon the pun).  I managed to save
about 5 of them before my Angels gobbled them all up.  I set up a
2 gallon nursery tank, using a miniature undergravel filter (the
base is about 4-5 inches across).  This coupled with an antiquated
air pump was all I needed to raise these 5 little guys to a size
that they were able to go back to their tank of origin.  

As for Betta's.  They can and do live in small bodies of water.
However, I do get very upset when I see them on display at fish
stores in clear "dixie" cups.  A 2 gallon fishbowl with a simple
undergravel filter should be sufficent to keep a betta in a 
comfortable environment.  But truthfully, they do make a beautiful
addition to a community tank (provided you only have 1 at a time).

"My Kingdom for a Leopard Angelfish"
- John Anderson -

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Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 15:30:10 EDT
From: Eric Schweitzer <ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: poison zuccini?

Yesterday I gave my pleco a piece of zuccini (something I do regularly).
Since then (within 24 hours) 4 fish have died, 2 cardinal, a young female
betta, and an older male swordtail. None had any marks or signs of disease,
though the female betta was pritty hard to identify.
Since the tank has been running and happy for a while, and nothing has changed
(other than dead fish) I assume the zuccini was poisoned (DDT in this
country (USA)! I'll never buy non organic again!).

Other than adding GAC to the filter, and doing some massive water changes
(I think 50% per day for a few days), can anyone suggest anything?

Is my assumption of bad zuccini unreasonable? All the standard water
chemistry was normal, but should I worry about the poison hurting
the bio filter?

Thanks for any suggestions.

-eric
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: fssmith@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Smith)
Subject: Re: 802 powerhead as a wet/dry sump pump
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date:  7 Apr 1992 14:23 EDT  

In article <1992Apr7.155822.24375@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, philt@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (philip.tomaskovic) writes...
> 
>I was told that an 802 powerhead was adequate for running a small
>wet/dry filter and had sufficient strength to pump up 5 feet from
>the sump to the top of the tank.
> 
>I bought one and it's strong enough but I'm having trouble attaching
>my return hose to it. A 1/2" ID hose fits inside the powerhead
>exhaust, but it's easily loosened and can pop out. The outer diameter
>of the exhaust seems too big for 5/8" hose and too small for 3/4"
>unless a very strong clamp (non-metal of course for marine use) can
>be attached.
> 
>Can other people that use 802's for sumps tell me what hose and
>fittings they use?
> 
>Thanks
>Phil
use the 5/8 inch hose.  Heat it up in some hot water first and it will
slip over the powerhead output.  You may also want to plug the port on the
powerhead output.
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: seove@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC OVERTON)
Subject: Does ick medicine harm FW clams?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Apr 1992 14:35 EDT  


Does ick medicine harm freshwater clams?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Eric Overton
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: frazier@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Frazier)
Subject: Re: BABY CONVICTS
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:01:44 GMT

jjz34245@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wendell Gee) writes:

>lso@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:

>>How do I take care of baby Convicts?
>>I have both eggs and very young fry from different parents in a 45 gal
>>community tank.

>Well, you dont.

>Both time that I had convict babies, they sort of fed themselves on small
>particles in the tank.  After a few weeks, they began to eat flake food 
>that was small enough for them...

>I'm not sure how it will work out with more than one pair of parents though...

This won't work without parents in the tank.  There is not
enough micro-fauna in a 45g fish tank to support large
numbers of fry.  In Wndell's case, I assume that the parents
were in the tank with the fry and Wendell fed the parents.
The fry lived off of the food fragments that the parents didn't
eat (perhaps intentionally - I've never kept convicts, but I do
know that many cichlid parents do provide food for their
young).  In any case, if there are only fry in the tank, I
recommend brine shrimp nauplii, perhaps in combination with
crushed flakes.
-- 


Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: laurence@cco.caltech.edu (Dustin Lee Laurence)
Subject: Re: help!...goldfish in fishbowl
Keywords: fish torture, early death, naive
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:45:49 GMT

pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior) writes:

[...]

>FIRST and FOREMOST - you need to read up on fish keeping.  It never
>ceases to amaze me at the number of people who think keeping fish 
>requires no knowledge.  I am not blaming you; it's a very common 
>mistake amung beginners.  But also keep in mind that many, if not most,
>new hobbyists give up in frustration when their fish keep dying.  Reading
>a good book or the FAQ will almost guarantee improved success.

Perhaps this is because many people in fact do not need to do any
research to keep other pets.  Common sense and human requirements
will tell you most of what you need to keep other mammals (cats,
etc.).  Even with birds or lizards, we can understand much of their
needs by analogy with our own.  I suspect the the majority of well
meaning people do not err so much in assuming that no knowledge is
required in keeping fish as in assuming that human needs are an
adequate model.

That, and not realizing that the fact that fish must be kept in a
closed environment has quite a few implications for any organism.

-- 
Dustin Laurence            "Someone please stop me, before I net again."

laurence@alice.wonderland.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: elf-kin
Reply-To: xcz13@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 13:50:56 GMT

preveas unreadabal measage dou to my not yet having figuered out how to erase
with my computer threw the modom.

ELF__ -KIN 	computer illiterit and prowd of it.
		trying once agen to reright thenglash language.
From: mdc@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (barbara.guerin)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: (M) Reef Crystals
Keywords: (M) Salt Mix
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:05:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


Is the phosphate problem true with Reef Crystals??
I was thinking of switching brands and trying Reef Crystals.

Has anyone done any tests on there water before mixing
and after mixing to make sure the phosphate problem is in 
the salt and not the pre-mixed water?

Could responses be posted on the alt.aquaria news
I think it may be of interest to all of us looking
for a good salt for our reefs.

Dana
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