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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:45:24 CST
From:         Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      WPWINFIL error

Five times tonight over a 4 hour period I have received a WPWINFIL error
while typing a document in WPWIN.  It tells me to either chose ignore
and then I should save my document with a new name, or chose close and
lose all changes (logically, I chose ignore and then rename the doc).
Anybody have ideas on what causes this?  My WPWINFIL.EXE file is about
1.5 megs in size--is this normal?  My setup is a 386/25 w/ 8 megs RAM;
the file that was giving me problems is about 70K (15 pages with one
full page graphic).

MARC BECKER
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
           MABECKER@UKANVM (BITNET)
           MARC@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (INTERNET)
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:42:16 EST
From:         Greg Schlierf <UNPATTER@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Super/subscript and line spacing on HP Laserjet III
              23 Nov 1992 15:09:01 GMT from <Adriaan@SCINET.UP.AC.ZA>

If you use the advance command either on the line you have superscript or
the line that is ill spaced you will be able to lesson that  spacingg
and have it look more normal.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:53:08 CST
From:         Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Macro error message

I've run into a wierd macro error message tonight that I can't figure
out and I'm hoping someone can help me.  When I write a new Macro and
run it (to compile it), I get an error message that says that the
macro contains no object or its object is out of date and that the
Macro must be compiled.  But when I do that, I get the same error
message.  Am I doing something wrong?  What is this "object" that the
macro can't find?  Hope someone has some ideas...

MARC BECKER
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
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From:         D martinez <AGDNDMC@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      lexicon compability

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>Can anyone tell me if the lexicon of WP5.1 is compatible with WP for Windows
>5.1?

Yes, they arev totally compatible.  I've used the English, Spanish and French
dictionaries in both versions.  You need only one copy for both versions.
Some time ago, there was a piece of info on how to optmize for disk space
while running WPDOS and WPWIN.  (I have given up, at least temporarily, on
WPWIN, until they deliver a true Windows applications, which the grape vine
says v. 5.2 just is.  I will have to see before I buy.

Cheers,

Domingo Martinez
AGDNDMC@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU
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From: rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner)
Subject: Re: "Repeat" in WP4WIN
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:51:44 GMT

enordmoe@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric Nordmoe) writes:

>I hope this is a simple one.  I just switched over to Windows and WP4WIN 
>and was trying to figure out how to play a macro multiple times.  With the
>DOS version of course it's just ESC and, optionally, setting the number of
>times to repeat, then execute the macro.  Anyone know the equivalent in 
>WP4WIN?

There is no builtin equivalent; but Greg Burlile of Ohio State U has
written a nice macro that can be installed in the Macros menu or a
button bar, which will do the job for you.  You can find it (along with
some other useful WPWin macros by yours truly) on ftp.cica.indiana.edu
in the directory /pub/pc/win3/wpwin.

-- 
Richard Reiner..............rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca..............416-538-3947

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:03:05 CST
From:         "Roger W. Petry" <rpetry@UA.D.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "Repeat" in WP4WIN
              "WPWIN-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" at Nov 17, 92 12:05 am

> I hope this is a simple one.  I just switched over to Windows and WP4WIN
> and was trying to figure out how to play a macro multiple times.  With the
> DOS version of course it's just ESC and, optionally, setting the number of
> times to repeat, then execute the macro.  Anyone know the equivalent in
> WP4WIN?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Eric Nordmoe
> Northwestern Univ.
> Dept. of Stats
> enordmoe@fisher.stats.nwu.edu
>
-
Here we go again...

Eric, having just come on board, you would not have realized that this
group expended a huge number of human and machine cycles on this question,
and some related issues.  "Should we promote/write/use macros?", was
a popular topic for a while.

Others should jump in here, but my recollection is that WP Corp documents
the DOS version {ESC} key as deliberately left out of the Windows version.

As for a replacement, consensus seemed to be that there is no built-in
WPWIN feature which can be used as a generic repeat function.

Comments?
Roger Petry, Univ. of Minn. Information Services.
From: Adriaan@scinet.up.ac.za (Adriaan Odendaal)
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Subject: Super/subscript and line spacing on HP Laserjet III
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:09:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pretoria

I use the CG Times scalable font on the WP4WIN printer driver for the HP 
Laserjet III printer (1Meg). Every time I use super or subscript on a line, 
the difference between the baseline for the normal text and the baseline of 
the subscript (the difference between the top of the x of the line and the 
superscript) is added to the line spacing, resulting in some lines having a 
bigger linespacing than others. This does not look neat, especialy as I use 
a linespacing of 1.5 to compensate for super/subscripts. Does anyone know 
how to solve this problem?

Thanks in advance.

Adriaan
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:55:39 CST
From:         Charlie Reitsma <REITSMAC@DENISON.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: "Repeat" in WP4WIN

>There is no equivalent in wpwin. You shall have to write a macro to do this.

And it was posted to this list 4 months ago...here it is again.
//     REPEAT.WCM                                             7/31/92
//
//     Created By:  Greg Burlile,  Ohio State University
//     Created For:  WordPerfect  For Windows 5.1
//
// This is a macro to repeat text or repeat a macro a specified number of times
.
// Improvements to this macro are encouraged and welcome!
//
Application (WP;WPWP;Default;"WPWPUS.WCD")
Menu(RepeatType;Digit;;;{"Repeat &Text";"Repeat &Macro"})   // Present Menu
Case(RepeatType; {1;RepeatText@;2;RepeatMacro@};QuitMacro@) // Branch
//
//                       Repeat Macro Section
//
LABEL(RepeatMacro@)
GetWPData(OrigDocumentNum; CurrentDocument!) // Get current document number
GetWPData(MacPath; MacroPath!)               // Get Macro Directory Path
FileOpenDlg()                                // Allow User to choose a macro
GetWPData(NewDocumentNum; CurrentDocument!)  // Get current document number
GetWPData(NewDocument; Name!)                // Get current document name
IF (NewDocumentNum=OrigDocumentNum)          // If a macro was NOT chosen
     GO(QuitMacro@)
ENDIF
Close()
  // Close the opened macro
GetNumber(NumRepeats; "Enter number of times to repeat"; "Repeat #")
FOR(Count; 1; Count <= NumRepeats; Count + 1)
     RUN(MacPath + NewDocument)      // Run the macro the specified # of times
ENDFOR
GO(QuitMacro@)
//
//                        Repeat Text Section (up to 50 characters)
//
LABEL(RepeatText@)
GetString(TextToRepeat; LENGTH=50; "Enter text to be repeated"; "Repeat Text")
GetNumber(NumRepeats; "Enter number of times to repeat"; "Repeat #")
FOR(Count; 1; Count <= NumRepeats; Count + 1)      // Loop
     Type(TextToRepeat)
ENDFOR
GO(QuitMacro@)
//
LABEL(QuitMacro@)
QUIT
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+==============+=================================================+
+  T . H . E   +             Greg Burlile            Go Bucks !  +
+  OHIO STATE  +                                                 +
+  UNIVERSITY  +  Internet:  gburlile@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  +
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:07:17 EST
From:         Bob Babcock <peprbv@CFA0.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      Super/subscript and line spacing on HP Laserjet III
              23 Nov 1992 15:09:01 GMT <9211232319.AA09436@cfa0.HARVARD.EDU>

>>Every time I use super or subscript on a line,
>>the difference between the baseline for the normal text and the baseline of
>>the subscript (the difference between the top of the x of the line and the
>>superscript) is added to the line spacing, resulting in some lines having a
>>bigger linespacing than others.

Try setting the line spacing to fixed rather than variable.  You may find that
you have to go back to variable in some places, else things like equations
may overlay text.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:24:03 MST
From:         Madge McBurney <ISPMOM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ? Proper email address for posts ?
              20 Nov 1992 17:13:26 -0600 from <rolfe@DSUVAX.DSU.EDU>

On Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:13:26 -0600 Tim Rolfe said:
>MODERATOR/LIST-OWNER please short-stop (unless you think it appropriate
>to enter into the general discussion).
>
>What is the email address I ought to be using to post of the CHRISTIA
>listserver?  I suspect that my attempts to post through the nn newsreader
>may be ending up in never-never land.  I thought I'd copied correctly the
>address our sys-admin said is the address for the moderator, but that isn't
>working.

Tim,

The correct address for mail to be posted to Christia:  CHRISTIA@ASUACAD
For commands intended for our site's server to act on:  LISTSERV@ASUACAD

You may also use the Internet address:
    christia@asuvm.inre.asu.edu (for mail to Christia)
    listserv@asuvm.inre.asu.edu (for commands to LISTSERV)

Let me know if I can be of help,
Madge McBurney
From: laperla@byron.u.washington.edu (Juan Perla)
Subject: Re: Bible Memorization Tip
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:48:21 GMT

Will someone please send me a copy of the memorization tips?
Thank you,
juan
laperla@u.washington.edu
-- 
Juan Manuel Perla                                    University of Washington
laperla@u.washington.edu             University Computing Services Operations
"Ha!  Your Leaping Tiger Kung Fu is no match for my Frightened Piglet Style!"
                                                                    -sand
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:43:23 -0500
From:         Eric James Ewanco <ewanco@MLO.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Re: The Gospel

Excerpts from christia: 16-Nov-92 Re: The Gospel A16905@ITESO.BITNET (932)

> Excuse me Eric, but I disagree.

> Not all Jesuites are Marxists or revolutionary. All are cerianly
> heterodox, but the order itself is not corrupted. My university (ITESO)
> is guided by Jesuites and I have seen all, from a contemplative, kind
> and simple priest called Luis Sanchez, to a young, strong, active,
> passiones one called Jose Luis (alias "El bigos").

I did not mean to imply that all are Marxists or revolutionary -- nor do
I agree that all are heterodox (which means that they do not believe the
truth Catholic faith).  There _are_ faithful, loyal Jesuits, but as a
whole, the order seems to be going in the wrong direction; they vote to
disobey the Pope and do things contrary to the Catholic faith. Even the
Father General of a few years ago (he has since died), the leader of the
whole order, was entirely unorthodox, rebellious, deceitful and corrupt.

I know of some wonderful Jesuits -- Mitch Pacwa, S.J., the St. Louis
Jesuits who write the folk songs (though I know nothing about them
personally), some Jesuits in the local area that I know, and so forth.
Not all are corrupted.

Eric
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:40:40 CST
From:         Jesse Carnes <NOTJIC@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Gospel

Dear Marty ;

Let me just say that from what I get from Catholics, what they HEAR in ther
parish churches differs GREATLY from the "official" stuff.


Jesse
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:33:47 CST
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From:         JLong <JLONG@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject: What IS the G O S P E L ???

Hi there.
I have read everything that everyone has written about what is the Gospel.
Some was interesting and some was kind of over my head.  But I just wanted
to put in a few scriptures and tell you what I believe to be the definition
of Gospel.

What is the Gospel?

The Gospel means "Good News".  We can further it by saying it is the teachings
of Jesus Christ and the Apostles.
Here are just a few scriptures on the Gospel:

Matt. 11:5, says " the blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers
are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the POOR HAVE THE
GOSPEL PREACHED TO THEM."  Which means to me that the poor have the good news a
nd teachings of Jesus Christ preached to them.
Mark 1:1 says, "the beginning of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; an
d verse two says 'As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger
before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee'."  Which means that
Jesus was sent to bring us good news of how to make it to heaven or how to get
back to God.  Jesus came to teach us the way and prepare it for us.

Acts 20:24 says "But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear
unto myself, so that I might finish my course with Joy, and the minsitry which
I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the Gospel of the Grace of God."
Paul went to spread the Good new about the Grace of God. He taught the teaching
s of Jesus Christ.
The Gospel not only means the Good News and the teachings of Jesus Christ but s
simply means accepted truth.   Romans 1:16 states that "For I am not ASHAMED OF
 THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST; for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone
that believeth; to the jew and also to the Greek"  Which simply means that I am
not ashamed of the good news or the truth of Christ. (that is "accepted truth")
Romans 10:15-16 also states, "And how shall they preach except they be sent?  a
s it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the GOSPEL OF P
EACE and bring glad tidings of good things"  "But they have not all obeyed the
Gospel.  For Esaias saith Lord who hath believed our report?  Which means that
Paul said that it was beautiful of them that preached the good news of peace or
the truth of Jesus Christ.  But not  everyone has obeyed the truth or the
teachings.

These are just a few scriptures from the King James version of the Bible.
This what I believe that GOSPEL means.  Here are a few other scriptures you
can read in your spare time:
I Corinthians 9:16
II Corintians 4:3 and 11:4
Ephesians 1:13, 6:15, and 6:19
Philippians 1:5
Colossians 1:23
I Thesolonians 1:5
Revalations 14:6

All Scriptures from the KJV.

Your sister in Christ
Janie
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:01:47 EST
From:         "SHELBY A. CROSS" <LIBSAC@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: COUNSELLING ADVICD-TOM

Dear Tom,

The way you wrote your post, I  thought maybe you were old as me (Smile),
but I am  happy for you and know  that God will give you what  to say. It
is awesome  just to  think He already  knows who you  will be  talking to
and all about them!  We will be keeping you in our prayers.

Dear Heavenly Father,

We ask You Lord to give Tom the  desires of his heart as he lines up with
Your Word.  Father give Him  Your wisdom  and understanding and  let Your
anointing and  love flow through  him that people  will ask "What  must I
do to  be saved".  Father we  pray for everyone  in attendence  there and
that you use all the laborers for  the vineyard to bring souls to Christ.
Our prayer  is that  this will  be good  seed and  will bear  much fruit.
In  Jesus Name  we pray.  Amen and  Amen. Praise  the Lord  Tom for  such
an opportunity!!!!!

Your sister in Christ,

Shelby--
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:40:00 EST
From:         "Joseph_I.Scully" <21010JIS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Prayer Request

Hello y'all. I've been nomail for much of the past two months studying
for my comprehensive exam, but have come back to mail status in the
past week or so. I would appreciate prayer for my exam (it's November
30, it's five hours long, and it's in International Business). Actually,
pray for me; the exam doesn't need prayer (oh, Lord, I pray that the
exam would be *strong* and *mighty*; I don't think so!). I know, ANOTHER
study prayer request....but I'm trying to walk by faith, not by cite
(actually I would prefer to have both faith and cite).

A quick clarification on my most recent post (my first since coming back).
Someone was writing on gays in the military and how the (ancient) Spartans had
'armies of lovers' and were, presumably, gay. I realized after zipping
back 'Not this Spartan, bucko!' that:

a) I should have put a smiley :-) after it so as not to imply gay-bashing, and

b) non-sports fans or those of you outside the States wouldn't get the joke.
Michigan State University sports teams are all named the Spartans, as in
'The Spartan football team will go to the Holiday Bowl in San Diego if they
beat Illinois Saturday'. All students are Spartans by extension.

The 'armies of lovers' sounds awful tempting, but being in the 'army of God'
is better.
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From:         Wolfgang Hutter <HUTTER@DULRUU51.BITNET>
Subject:      Sorry...

Sorry about that last post. Wrong key...

Wolfgang <><
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:33:11 CST
From:         Tom Brewer <NOTTMB@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Counselling Advice

To All:

It looks like I will be going as a "counsellor" to a "Christian" rock
concert Saturday night. I've prayed about what to use with those who might
show an interest in Jesus that night. My own desire is to share Titus 3:1-8
with the individual that night and possibly get them a N.T. or copy of
John's Gospel. I'm not sure what will be available for me, yet. One of the
men in my church is heading up the counsellors, so there will be several of
us from my church. I have also thought about a sheet for names and numbers
of the ones who might come forward. Half of the sheet for the individual's
name and the other half can be torn off listing my name and number with
some others in our church.

If you remember, you can pray for my words and deeds to glorify Christ. I cut
my teeth on the rock and roll of the 60's. I am familiar with some of what
people call "Christian" rock. I knew members of Jesus People USA and REZ when
they were down in Florida and REZ was Resurrection Band with a couple of
amps and a great big Jesus Bus. I used to listen to Keith Green and some of
the others with him. I liked Larry Norman and some of his crew. But I must
confess I am completely ignorant of a lot of the new stuff. (I sound like
my dad.)

B.T.W. the groups at the Centroplex are going to be J.C. Krew (is there really
such a thing as "Christian Rap"? I must be getting old.), Rachel Rachel and
the top bill goes to White Heart. Please forgive me, but I'm not familiar
with any of them.

Tom Brewer
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:12:51 CST
From:         Jesse <NOTJIC@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The Gospel
              17 Nov 1992 12:43:08 -0500 from <ewanco@MLO.DEC.COM>

Dear Eric ;

One query : "If Rome was all THATupset over the liberal RCism in America,
then WHY don't they just put America under the "Interdict" until the US gets
into shape?"  Looks like Rome is tolerating it all pretty well in stride to me.
I hear no threats at this time looming on the horizon.


Jesse
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From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Cell Group Churches and Leadership
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:40:10 GMT

 >Don't you require your pastors to be educated?

Sure we do -- they have to go through 4 levels of training: the Year of
Equipping, Small Group Leader Training, Small Group Coordinator Training,
and Zone Pastor training.  But I suppose what you're asking is, "Don't you
require your pastors to go to seminary?"  The answer is no -- instead, we
require our pastors to have demonstrated fruitfulness.

 >But they also need to be able to preach the word accurately, and
 >that needs training in hermeneutics, Greek and Hebrew, and exegesis.
 >Further they need to be trained in apologetics, and in cross-cultural
 >communication from the Christian sub-culture to the materialists and
 >post-modernists that are outside of (and very often, inside of) the
 >Church.

My first reaction: really?

(OK, with that out of my system...)  Correct me if I read you wrong,
but you seem to imply that *preaching* is one of the most important
jobs of a pastor, if not _the_ most important job.

This may be true in traditional church settings, in which pastors are
expected mainly to preach "good sermons".  This is not the case in
cell churches, though.  At my church, the most important job of a
zone pastor is to oversee the small groups in his zone; everything
takes second place to that, nothing must compete with it.

Our zone pastors almost never preach on Sunday morning.  Still, it
does happen once in a while, so...

 >One does not have to follow modern seminary style for that education

...so that's why Zone Pastor Interns, in the 4th level of training, will
take classes in the mornings (afternoons and evenings are devoted to
ministry), no doubt on a variety of topics.  But the main thrust of their
training will be on leading a zone of small groups to bear fruit in
evangelism and discipleship.

-- 
Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
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