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Kamil:

in your last posting you wrote:

>Jan:
>
>You mentioned that none of the Tiso celebrators are in the parliament.

Well, I've spoken about the leaders and members of right-wing
parties, angaged in the demonstrations in Bratislava with rude
shoutings (Dost bolo Havla!) and other provocations. One of this
group tried to reestablish the Hlinka's Slovak People Party,
which turned during the Slovak State in the governing fascist
party (HSLS). It was organized by a federal MP Mr Panis. Besides
it there were some more (appr. 10 or 15). None of them got more
then 1,0 % of votes. Today they are not present in the public
life. From the parties, who are active outside the parliament, I
have to mention the Slovak Christian Democratic Movement (SKDH),
established by splitting Carnogursky's KDH into two parts, then
the Citizens Democratic Union, created by transforming the
original Citzens against Violency (the party, which won the
election 1991) and the Democratic Party. The last two are about
to merge in a new right-oriented party.

> It just occurred to me that I have read recently that Slota,
> the mayor (or ex-mayor) of Zilina is in SNR. He is the author
> of the infamous statement about "squishing as treators all of
> those who oppose the idea of independent Slovakia" (vsetci
> ktori odporuju myslienke nezavisleho Slovenska budu
> prevalcovani ako zradcovia).

You are right, Mr Slota is MP and still mayor of Zilina. It's
the same man who tried present himself through would-be strong
sayings.  Thanks the quoted statement he earned a lot of critics
and the attention of the prosecutor, who decides that the quotet
statement hasn't to be regarded as a crime. His saying may be
regarded es a metaphor, too, because "to be squashed by the
history" is an often used idiom in official speeches or
historical books, too. By the way, your translation is moving
the sense of this idiom in a more expressive one: "prevalcovat"
means "to roll over" and "to be rolled over by the history" is
perhaps more acceptable, as "to be squased". Of course, still
remains the word "treator", which hasn't be used in political
discussion.

Mr Slota is a member of the Slovak National Party (Slovenska
narodna strana). In the last elections his party was third after
Meciar's HZDS and Weiss'z SDL. It earned about 10 % votes.

>
>Threatening people with steam-rollers is a pretty serious thing,
>especially coming from a mayor of a relatively major city in Slovakia.
>And the next thing I hear, he's an MP...
>
>Could you please confirm if he indeed is an MP, and if he is, for
>which party? Also, is your personal opinion of the whole incident?
>
>--Kamil Marcinka (Internet address: tkmarc@hovmb.ion.chevron.com)


You are right, Kamil. However, these thinks also belongs to the
political culture, the way of communication etc. You cann't
expect from an unexperienced MP in an unexperienced parliament
such a behaviour as you see in the House of Lords. People whose
mind was ideologicaly narrowed by an four decades lasting
dictatorship without education in politics and parliamentary
democracy got from day to day the right to express free their
ideas and to make the so called big policy! I'm astonished, that
no more accident happened.

An another point is of interest. After passing the constitution
and after separating from the Bohemia the Slovak National Party
will loose their raison d'etre, because of their program will be
already completely fulfiled. As far as I could them follow, they
are getting a bit unsure about their political future. And this
will be a dangerous point, in which they could try get a new
wind in their wings by geting more right-oriented. But at
present they play the role of a constructive opposition, mostly
supporting Meciar's HZDS.

Jan


P.S. Kamil, thanks for your very interesting posting concerning
the subject "Paradigm shift". Your open statements are for me of
high value, because they are for me the feedback, what is the
image of Slovaks and Slovakia abroad. I see, we have to do a big
work to present our ideas and to overcome the prejudice, created
by our mistakes as well as by the hatred of others. Excuse me,
please, if I'll be late with my answer, but there is just a lot
of urgent work waiting for me.

So long,

Jan
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janszel@posen.mff.uniba.cs              	Address  : ul. A. Mraza 4
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Jan Szelepcsenyi                        	Telephone: + 42 7 220863
janszel@posen.mff.uniba.cs              	Address  : ul. A. Mraza 4
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