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From: Hilary Naylor <hnaylor@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Date: 08 Jan 93 16:38 PST
Subject: GUATEMALA: thousands of refugees
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Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hnaylor    Jan  8 16:38:00 1993


From: Hilary Naylor <hnaylor>
Subject: GUATEMALA: thousands of refugees

/* Written  4:35 pm  Jan  8, 1993 by hnaylor@igc.apc.org in igc:ai.general */
/* ---------- "GUATEMALA: thousands of refugees" ---------- */
Amnesty International
International Secretariat
1 Easton Street
London WC1X 8DJ
United Kingdom

DATE: 6 JANUARY 1993

GUATEMALA: AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL CONCERNED FOR SAFETY OF THOUSANDS OF
RETURNING REFUGEES

Amnesty International is concerned for the security of over 5,000 refugees who
are scheduled to return to Guatemala from Mexico on 13 January 1993, in what
will be the first phase in the negotiated return of over 40,000
refugees.

Since 1989, refugees living in Mexico, who fled the Guatemalan army's
counter-insurgency campaigns of the early 1980s, have been seeking a
negotiated return to Guatemala.  On 8 October 1992, the Guatemalan
government and the refugees in Mexico signed an Accord in Guatemala City,
which sets out the conditions for the return of the refugees and states that
the return will be voluntary.  It recognizes the rights of free
association, organization and movement of returnees and in particular, the
Accord guarantees a return in conditions of security and dignity, and the
right to life and personal and community integrity of the returnees.

Amnesty International is concerned, however, that recent military
operations in Guatemala may put some of the returning refugees in danger. The
first 5,000 refugees are due to return to areas of the departments of El Quich
and Huehuetenango.  Amnesty International is particularly concerned for the
safety of over 2,700 refugees due to return to the area of Pol!gono 14, Ixc n,
department of El Quich.

On the last days of November and the first of December 1992, army units
launched an aerial and land operation in the nearby area of Cuarto Pueblo,
Ixcn, during which it was reported that the communities of Cuarto Pueblo and
Los Angeles came under serious attack.  According to information
received by Amnesty International, some 70 families resident in the two
communities mentioned fled to Mexican territory as a result of this attack.
The area in which the military operation took place is adjacent to the area of
Pol!gono 14, on the other side of the Xalbal River.

Amnesty International fears that, because of the proximity of the areas under
attack to the area marked for the return of the refugees, these
incidents put in grave risk the security of the returning refugees.  For this
reason, Amnesty International is urging the Guatemalan government to ensure
the full respect and continuing protection to the right to life and physical
security of all returning refugees, as outlined in the Accord.

Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
From: ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi)
Subject: Human Rights issues of Namibia? etco
Reply-To: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:44:33 GMT

I'd like feedback/thoughts/information on Namibia's views
of human rights, and violations made by South Africa in the past.

Please respond directly if possible.

Kenji Takeuchi
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.europe
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
Subject: expulsion of palestinians and international law
From: Jack Hammond <JLHHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 12 Jan 1993 23:02:42 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Can anyone help me with a question about deportation in international law?
I thou ght that a person could not be deported from his or her home state,
and could not be deported without a destination, i.e. a country willing to let
the person enter.  (I know that both these are true under U.S. law and I had
the impression that they were recognized in international principles.)  Anyone
 know?
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,de.soc.politik,soc.culture.german
From: ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca
Subject: ADL Leaders to Meet with Kohl, Other Leaders in Germany
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:08:14 GMT

Here is a press release from the Anti-Defamation League.

 ADL Leaders to Meet with Kohl, Other Leaders in Germany
 To: National and Foreign desks
 Contact: Myrna Shinbaum of the Anti-Defamation League,
          212-490-2525, ext. 145

   NEW YORK, Jan. 6  -- At the invitation
of the German government, leaders of the Anti-Defamation League
(ADL) will visit Bonn, Berlin and Rostock to meet with high
level officials and representatives of a variety of organizations
to discuss the recent anti-foreigner/anti-Semitic attacks carried
out by neo-Nazis and Skinheads, and share the league's expertise
in developing programs to combat racism and intolerance.
   Melvin Salberg, ADL national chairman, and Abraham H. Foxman,
ADL national director, will head a delegation of ADL national
leaders and staff experts.
   The ADL group will meet with Chancellor Helmut Kohl, Foreign
Minister Klaus Kinkel, Justice Minister Sabine Leutheusser
Schnarrenberger, Bundestag President Rita Suessmuth, Minority
Leader Hans-Ulrich Klose, Berlin Mayor Eberhard Diegpen, among
others.
   Following is the itinerary:

   BONN      Jan. 11-13   Contact: Robert Goldmann or Mark Medin
                                   Bristol Hotel, 228-26980
   Monday, Jan 11
   11 a.m.           Salberg, Foxman and Goldmann available to
                     meet with members of the press

   Wednesday, Jan. 13
   5 p.m.            Meeting with Chancellor Helmut Kohl
   6:30 p.m.         Press Conference
                     Bonn Pressclub, Heinrich-Bruening Strasse 20

   BERLIN    Jan. 14-15   Contact: Robert Goldmann or Mark Medin
                                   Bristol Hotel, 30-884-340

   ROSTOCK   Jan. 16-19   Contact: Robert Goldmann, 23209
 -30-
-- 
Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario    ndallen@r-node.gts.org
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.europe
From: varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine)
Subject: Re: Anti-"Macedonian" Legal Acts by Successive Greek Gvmnts - Reply
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:44:29 GMT

sachz@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (SAS) among other things writes:

>Denial is fruitless. Let me have the liberty to refresh some points.
>Here are just two which I would dearly appreaciate an explanation on.

>  * On September 7, 1938 the legal Act No. 2366 was issued which
>    banned the use of the Macedonian language. All Macedonian
>    localities were flooded with posters: "Speak Greek". Evening
>    schools were opened in which adult Macedonians were taught Greek.
>    Not a single Macedonian school functioned at that time.

>  * On August 23, 1953 the legal Act No. 2536 was issued, on the
>    strength of which all those who left Greece and who did not
>    return within three years time could be deprived of their
>    property.

What you fail to show is the Yogoslav policies at the same time for Greeks
who lived in Yugoslavia or have lived in Yugoslavia before the population
exchanges.  Did Yugoslavia encourage the use of Greek in her territory?  Or
did she allow Greeks who moved to Greece to claim their property?  Or did
she allow them to return if they wished?  Any discussion would be fruitless
unless these questions are answered in parallel to your assertions for Greek
discrimination against the Slavic population.
-- 
Constantinos Varnavas
University of Illinois
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human
From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont)
Subject: Cannibalism story and Sale of Organs in PRC.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:59:04 GMT

In reading the responses to the cannibalism story,I started wondering
if the situation regarding forced donation of organs had changed.I remember
about two or three years ago there were several postings to this and other
newsgroups alleging that the chinese government was selling kidneys and
corneas of condemned prisoners (well,actually the complete transplant
operation.."No Wait !" ) to generate hard currency.Nobody has discussed
this recently. Is it still going on? I can't help but wonder if this
story is true since the financial incentives would be great and there are
still thousands of people who are still missing after the Tienamien disaster..
Xref: sparky soc.rights.human:4743 soc.culture.greek:12102
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.rights.human,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Anti-"Macedonian" Legal Acts by Successive Greek Gvmnts - Reply
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:51:36 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Michael Polymenakos (michael.polymenakos@factory.com)  writes:
> Finally, regarding the refusal of Greece to accept the existence of a
>"Slav-Macedonian" nation: The EEC, the US, the UN all seem to agree. I
>find the arguement that Greece has been twisting the arms of all these
>powerful nations/organisations to be absurd. How could Greece force
>Britain, Frace, Germany, Italy etc into a UNANIMOUS decision on Lisbon?

Maybe because 11-1 or 0-12 would give the same verdict.

But explain, if the world agree so much with Greece, how come the
Badinter commission found that Macedonia fulfilled all criterias?
How come that the Swedish cabinet secretary says that Sweden think
Macedonia is fully qualified for recognition? Explain that if the
EC countries are so Goddamn unanimous the issue comes up again
and again? How come we can regularly read in the press that the
other EC countries are irriated over Greece's rigid stance?

Face it, Greece's silly name game has costed Greece loads of
international reputation.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Arne Adolphson, Moron At Large
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 19:56:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <73394@cup.portal.com> <C0r249.3u7@unix.amherst.edu>

Tim Pierce writes:
>George Madison writes:
>>FWA writes:
>>Every response to my witty/literary/clever flames has been the same
>>>thing "I know you are but what am I."
>Let's just say I didn't feel you were worth even a minor effort.
>
>Okay, we can say that if you like.

I like. FWA's responses, however "witty" he felt them to be,
were little more than "fuck yous."  Even *Arne* dealt with
what I was saying in a more substantive fashion; hence, I
responded to FWA in a fashion appropriate to his lack of
content.

 
() Niklaus Wirth has lamented that, whereas Europeans
() pronounce his name correctly (Ni-klows Virt), Americans
() invariably mangle it into (Nick-les Worth). Which is to
() say that Europeans call him by name, but Americans call
() him by value.
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:15:41 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison

In article <1993Jan5.052618.17838@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com
(Steve Dyer) writes:

>In article <72902@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com
>(George Dalton Madison) writes:

>>Ok. I nominate "none at all."

>I thought you used to say: "My men wear leather or they
>wear nothing at all..."

Was that George?  I thought it was Paco Robanne who said
that. :-)

Part of the problem with the whole scent scene, I think, is
that *really* good perfumes and colognes do not linger.
Rather than overwhelm the senses, they quickly fade into the
background, to become part of a barely perceptible olfactory
dimension to one's personal ambience.  The more common (as
in: that's so *common*) scents (every one cited on the list)
last *way* too long, and (arguably even worse) people use
*way way way* too much of them.

The proper stuff properly used is quite analogous to color,
texture, and touch of fabrics, to the hints of various
emollients, to the sounds of a distant music, to the
delights of delicate spices, to the simple joy of holding
the right person's hand in your own.

As to the admittedly outrageous prices (paying $15/oz for a
substance that costs $100/tankcar) most of what you pay for
is design and marketing.  It's not the only high-profit
business (I note with glee that Michael Milken, released
from 22 months of jail yesterday and having paid over $1
billion in fines, still has $500 million left, poor fellow),
and it's quite a lot nicer to look at than junk bonds or pet
food.

In fact, in your average major department store, the
cosmetics department is almost always the prettiest part of
the whole enterprise.  I think it's a designer's dream
world.  So many variants on basic cylinders and spheres, real
artistry in glass and plastic objects.  There's little point
in trying to explain any of that to people who think a jar
is a jar.

Well, what can you do?  There are barbarians everywhere.

I have several scent stories, which I could be persuaded to
tell if coaxed.

-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
[---------> Discrimination, Bigotry, and Hate are not Family Values <---------]
From: spriggs@sybase.com (Mark Spriggs)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Muffin on Parade
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:41:51 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <C02wt6.1t8@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>In <55440005@hpscit.sc.hp.com> jprigeon@hpscit.sc.hp.com (John Prigeon) writes:
>
>>Anyway, I've spent some time figuring out my smurf and bear codes.
>>Allow me to share them with you:
>
>>S4 b g l+ y+ z n o- x- a+ u v- j++
>
>I'm clueless (so what else is new?) -- could someone email me the smurf
>codes so I can understand?                           ^^^^^ ^^

Me toooooo!  A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jontom@HQ.Ileaf.COM (J.T. Kittredge)
Subject: Re: Gay men personals...
In-reply-to: dyer@spdcc.com's message of Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:41:40 GMT
Posting-Front-End: GNU Emacs 18.52.65 of Mon Apr 22 1991 on kontrol (berkeley-unix)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:56:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.154140.8226@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>This is not to say that you can dictate on an individual level what is
>appropriate behavior, but to refuse to look at what might be going on
>on a personal level or more systemically under the excuse that's it's
>all "personal preference" is typical white-boy cluelessness.

What the man said.
-- JonTom


-- 
"I feel, my dear boy, my arm around you. I feel the pulsation,
 thereby, as it were, of your excellent future and your admirable
 endowment" -- Henry James to his protoge' Henrik Anderson
               (as quoted by Fred Kaplan)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown)
Subject: Re: Matters of Attraction
Organization: Oak Road Systems, Cleveland Ohio USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:02:42 GMT

In article <manz.726219560@ee.ualberta.ca> manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz) writes:
>
>Good conversation skills and an interesting personality can make 
>up for a lot in lacking physical beauty.  The reverse is seldom 
>true.

And I am Marie of Romania.

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems                      brown@Ncoast.ORG
Cleveland, Ohio, USA

"Life!  Don't talk to me about life!"
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Should I be doing this?
Organization: (getting there)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:03:10 GMT



I like teasing and being teased.  And I like sex.  As it happens,
like lots of people in this newsgroups, I like sex with men.  I
guess there is enough voyeurism in my makeup to guarantee my
interest and enthusiasm for a lot of the flirtatious and 
even steamy articles that show up here.

It occurs to me that this might be considered a reversal of the
way some heterosexual men like thinking about lesbians-- you know:
they (those men ) can't possibly imagine sex that leaves them out.
They want to watch.

I have no trouble understanding why women might find this attitude
annoying and/or disgusting.  It just never occurred to me until
today that anyone might consider that I'm doing essentially the same
thing.  (And yes, I understand all the differences in power between
men and women, and in acknowledgment of male sexuality and not of
female sexuality, and so on.  I don't know to what degree you can
make the appropriate changes so that the "gender" script runs with
"sexuality" substituted, and the power imbalance and aknowledgment
of sexuality reflects gay-straight instead of female-male and have
the analysis make any sense.)

I think that I'm pretty careful to tease only people who seem to
know me (in person or on the net) well enough so that they
understand that I'm playing around and that I have no interest at
all in watching anyone's private scene (with due stress on
"private").  In fact, it's a carrying over of regular teasing that
goes on between me and a mixed group of friends, where we are all
well acquainted and have a good sense of one another's limits.  But
even if _I_ know this and the objects of my teasing know it, there
may be people reading who find this behavior at least a little 
dubious.

I'm not going to promise to stop it unless I get a serious request
to do that, but I _will_ restrain myself.   Some. [ ;-)]  In the
meantime, I beg your pardon if you've been troubled by any of this,
and I hope this explanation makes you feel less uncomfortable.  
(If it doesn't, and if you're reluctant to write to me directly to
tell me so, I'm sure you can find an intermediary in this group.)

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.
From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Therbligs (zw{i,a}cky matters)
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:47:44 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In <C0G27z.90u@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes
|In article <92366.144938SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
|>A therblig is a 'Gilbreth' spelt backwards, Gilbreth as in 'John Kenneth'.
|>It is a unit of task; one therblig is a motion taken in the process of
|>accomplishing a task.  (for instance, picking up a nail is a therblig,
|>if you're nailing shingles on.)
|
|John Kenneth?  Then surely you meen "Galbraith", and the reversal would
|be a "thiarblag".

You're close.  There is a book (and subsequent movie), which is either
LIFE WITH FATHER or CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN (I can never remember which
is which).  It is based on real people, written by one of the
children.  The father, Mr. Gilbreth, was one of the first so-called
efficiency experts, so it's not surprising that a technical term was
named for him.

	/J
=
Nets: levin@bbn.com  |  "There were sweetheart roses on Yancey Wilmerding's
POTS: (617)873-3463  |  bureau that morning.  Wide-eyed and distraught, she
              N1MNF  |  stood with all her faculties rooted to the floor."
                     |					-- S. J. Perelman
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Abolish Marriage
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:39:13 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum

One of the Oregon gay papers has a teaser to the effect that a gay couple
in Pennsylvania found a loophole in the law and got legally married.
Anybody else hear about this?
-- 
Brent Capps    (B4) htw-c+(+)g+k+(+)s-e++ | Collars and blindfolds and
bcapps@agora.rain.com (gay stuff)         | bullwhips that sting, these are
bcapps@atlastele.com (telecom stuff)      | a few of my favorite things
From: urso@spdcc.com (Stephen Chappell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Bar etiquette
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:46:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan5.074644.22851
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1993Jan3.165147.23504@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> grant@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Grant R. Guenther) writes:
>
>How about "The Second Cup" at Church and Wellesley in Toronto - and many
>others in the chain, too.  Even the dinky little one in the mall here
>is probably the busiest daytime cruising spot in town :-) 
>

I've been schooled lately, during my last trip to Toronto, on the fine art
of going to coffee shops.  I grew up in Atlanta, where coffee shops are 
synonymous with "Oh... you mean Dunkin Donuts?," so Bill has had to teach
me how to be a Torontonian... hopping from Second Cup to Second Cup.  It
filled me with awe that every time we went there, there was at least
*someone* Bill knew there.  In Toronto, they serve much the same function
as bars.  However, in other cities, such as Atlanta and Boston, I'm afraid
you'd have better luck seeing the "Gotta make the donuts" guy than transacting
a successful cruise.
 
[] Urso


-- 
[] Stephen Chappell (a.k.a. "Urso")
[] urso@ursa-major.spdcc.com
[] 15 Walker Street, Powder House Square   
[] Somerville, MA 02144-1622, USA
From: bearcub@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Bob Koenig)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: I am confused
Date: 12 Jan 1993 16:20:11 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: bearcub@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: bearcub@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1isfdpINNado@spim.mti.sgi.com>, by dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber):
> 
> Either all my friends are ganging up on me trying to sidle me with
> a new personality, or I have been missing something.
> 
> In the last week, several people have told me that when they think of
> my personality/interpersonal-style,  I remind them of Mary Poppins.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea:
> A) is this a good thing?
> B) what it means?


Eeek. I had a discussion with my friends once at a Denny's about "who does
who remind you of". It was pretty funny. I was dubbed by everyone at the table
as a "cross between Freddie Mercury and Big Bossman from WWF Wrestling". 
The funny thing was, this was before I came out of the closet. They somehow
knew I had a little bit of "Queen" in me. :) Hence, I kept the description
as part of my signature. But Mary Poppins? *gasp*

Keep passing the open windows,


Bearcub> 
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From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Geography (was Capitalization, still dubious MOTSS content)
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:44:05 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) wrote:
>Yeah.  "Upstate" goes about as far up as Albany's northern suburbs.
>There are people who have heard of Buffalo and Rochester, which
>really aren't much further north than that.  It was very hard to get
>used to the idea that where I lived wasn't "Upstate," which ended a
>good two hundred miles south of where I lived.

That's why I always say "Far upstate" which may even include Albany.
Most people have no idea where the Adirondacks are, just that they
are chairs.

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson@ocean.dnet.nasa.gov
"Home is where your roof landed" - t-shirt seen in Miami
"We Will Rebuild (tm)" - majority community response to Andrew
"We Will Redecorate" - gay community response to Andrew
From: richw@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Rich Webber)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:14:29 GMT
Subject: CPSR: What can Clinton do for computing professionals?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino