From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Aimless thoughts on Satanism
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:49:35 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct1.192927.19383@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
> 
> In response to Semhaza (what kinda name is Semhaza anyway?) rambling

I'll tell you...but not here. It's a long story and I really should write a
FAQ on it because I see the question come up regularly.

> First, my apologies for this lousy text editor, we're building a terminal
> emulator so I can use EMACS.... (ANYWAY)
> 
> Meanwhile, I'll have to paraphrase;
> 
>>How can anyone who feels other than negative define themselves as Satanists?
> 
> First, whats negative mean? Do I have to walk about with my head hung low,
> depressed and "troubled of spirit"?

Hell, no. That's what you do when you deny the negative but have to face it
anyway. You can't accept it so it troubles you.
  
> Its my goal to have as much fun as humanly possible; I have a plan for this
> & plan on carrying it out. An applicable quote,"Eat drink and be Merry, for
> tomorrow we die!"

My favorite goes a little differently: "Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow
we do it all over again."

But some people are just so damned positive. Makes me sick. I'm talking about
people who say, "Well, we're Satanists and that means we are no longer
dominated by that evil book _The Bible_ and now we can all be nice to each
other!" Wrong. Human nature doesn't work that way. My death, your death, the
death of my CD player that cost $200 (i.e. two weeks pay); it's all death,
isn't it? We're surrounded by things and people dying.

That's what makes me such a happy person ;-)

> Another of my fav's (vaguely applicable); Conan sez,"Time enough for sleep
> in the grave..."

Was that in a book, the comic book series, or the movie?
 
>>...the supremacy of destruction...
> 
> I'm a _Physics_ student. With adequete education & resources, someone like
> me is capable of an _insane_ amount of destruction. While most Physicists
> find this morally repugnant, feel that people like me give physics an 
> undeserved bad name, and discourage this manner of physicist from the really
> destructive kinds of physics, I find destruction aesthetically pleasing.
> If nothing else, it is an excellent intellectual exercise for me (see 
> alt.destroy.the.earth)

It makes me sleep better at night knowing that people like you are in the
educational system :)

What's going on with chaos theory? From my limited understanding of it, it
seems to be very nice but they can't actually *do* much with it. I'm sure I'm
wrong, this not being one of my areas of current interest.
 
>> ...death obsession...
> 
> Not me

Destruction obsession...same difference.
 
>> ...How can you avoid death?
> 
> R.A.Wilson & Tim Leary & other Callifornia types think you can. There's a
> book out called "The Immortalists" (forgot the author-M.D.)

He, he, he. I am amused. I will believe it when it happens to me.
 
>> optomistic world views expressed by various....
> 
> Optomistic? Me? Realist is more like it. Humans are apes. Next question?

Calm down. I never called you an optimist. I was speaking more generally.
 
>>believe in Satan & demons....
> 
> My belief in supernatural deities began to decline with the revalation that
> the tooth-fairy was my mom. Then Santa-Claus went, then the demons & Satan
> (in my Catholic theology class, taught by somewhat of a Humanist), Finally
> favorite delusion, Yaweh, Jehovah god. Even if I did believe in it, I don't
> particularly like it, it's been kindof a jerk throughout history.

Hmm...I think Yahweh was the first to go in my case. I stopped believing in him
long before I found out about the Tooth Fairy.
 
> Anyway.
> I don't think you're a loonie (alt.satanism or otherwise) you just happen
> to have a slightly diffrent outlook on things; you'd be suprised how close
> our world-views are despite the fact that I am an atheist & you are some
> type of animist...

No, I'm not suprised. You're the person on the news who I sometimes feel I see
most eye-to-eye with.
 
> Finally, words from the Principia Discordia, which are most useful (pay
> attention xtains)

[good quotes deleted]

> ye servante of ye great olde ones...
> 
> -Scott

You're a physics student; I'll speak to you as a psychology student (albeit an
unwilling one at present). A cute little study they did recently (with my luck
everyone's heard of it already and I'm the last to know). It seems that people
who are optimistic are deluding themselves. They expect things to turn out
better than they actually do, and they think that others have a better
impression of them than the others actually do. People who are depressed or
pesimistic--they're the realists.

I was very satisfied to read this as it proved I was right all along :)

--Semhaza (The Antichrist)
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