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From: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: The Ravings Never Cease To Amaze
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:02:42 GMT
Reply-To: aa440@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dale Wedge)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Being a police officer, you sometimes encounter people who have
some strange tales to tell.

One instance encountered was a women who was walking down the
middle of an inter-state highway.  She was disoriented, and
had to be arrested on Disorderly Conduct charges.

When taken back for questioning as to who, what, where, and why
she was where she was, we found out that she was constantly 
contacting aliens.  The best had to do with her sensitivity 
when her head was under water in the bath tub.  This was when
she was more susceptible to messages.  Thank goodness the
messages were never that long.

Take this subject with a grain of salt, or angel hair.  You old
timers will understand the latter.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: "roman andruszko" <roman.andruszko@canrem.com>
Subject: i have a question
Reply-To: "roman andruszko" <roman.andruszko@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 2 Jan 93 15:42:54 EST

TO: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com

J->Dear Question Asker: I believe you will find that Don Showen is the
J->expert when it comes to the Pleiadian space people who are visiting
J->our planet. Most of the information about them comes from the work of
J->a oned man over in Europe who has collected a lot of information
J->from and about them. They are from the star system called the Pleiades
J->or Seven Sisters spoken of in Greek Mythology and American Indian
J->lore. The Cherokee Indian People claim to have come from there. The
J->Blonds or Nords are blond headed space people who look a lot like us.
J->Many are from the Pleiades and some are from Venus. They use the word

I was under the impression that the atmosphere on Venus is extremely
hot to support life.

J->Nord because they look like Nordic (Swedish) earth people.  EBE stands
J->for extraterrestrial Biological Entity and it is a name that our
J->scientist call people from other planets. Most of the time it refers
J->to space people who we have picked up either alive or dead.
J->I hope this will be of some help to you.

Thanks for the information.
Roman.Andruszko@canrem.com

                         
                          Roman Andruszko 
                         
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: mvasquez@cipres.cec.uchile.cl (VASQUEZ MORALES MAURICIO ANDRES)
Subject: Re: Software!
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:18:01 GMT
Organization: Centro de Computacion (CEC), Universidad de Chile
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


hello i am chilean , this a test

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: Check this out...
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:55:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.172619.27379@megatek.com> max@megatek.com (Max Elliot) writes:
>
>  Well, I suggested a few postings back that maybe our buddy JW
>  was a spook, and guess what happened.... I was e-mailed by a
>  man from the US Army Research Labs, who has never to my knowledge
>  posted in this group, wanting to know *why* it was I thought JW
>  was on the take!  

Probably wanted to investigate the possibility of federal funds being wasted
:-)

>  Pretty fishy huh?  

Just being from a .mil site doesn't mean someone is in the upper echelons
of the CIA, NSA, Mafia, Illuminati etc.

>  Well, whether JW *is* on the
>  take or not is irrelevant.  

It would be a good place to save a few 10's of K in the budget :)

BTW-
 UFO's stolen by the military are now being used by the Mafia in congunction
 with the queen of England to fly Heroin and dead aliens to the US from 
 Thailand. These in turned are exchanged for credit card numbers by the NSA,
 the credit card numbers are used to purchase accounts on the internet to
 give to local lunatics with the goal of obscuring any real information
 presented....

P.S. Just kidding :-)
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 28 Dec 1992 14:29:05 CST
From: <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Moderated Group/John Winston

Well, I just had a thought after reading several posts against a
moderated newsgroup: Maybe John Winston is doing his crap to steer this
group towards it being moderated.  How's that for a conspiracy?
I guess the solution that might work best without using a moderator is just
to ignore John Winstons.  This means everybody has to MODERATE themselves and
restrain from flaming John Winston and those like him.
Ethan Haslett
u37460@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: The Story of EBE
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 06:44:22 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Dear Folks: I attempted to run the information off on my printer and 
after 66 pages the thing ran out of paper. I read some of the 
information and I still haven't come to a decision on the truthfullness
of the stuff. It may be true and may be false.
John Winston. Don Showen has told me in the past that Don Allen is a 
pretty straight shooter though.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Subject: Re: John Winston revealed
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:07:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.092431.2622@dct.ac.uk> ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes:
>In article <BzquFG.ILs@world.std.com>, kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>> In article <1h9rr6INN2p9@zikzak.apana.org.au> zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael_-_Saleeba) writes:
>>>  I saw these two guys sitting at a computer and pointing and laughing
>>>at the screen. At first I thought it was my good chum Kibo but they
>>>didn't have a dog so I guess not. 
>> 
>> I don't have a dog... not since Spot fell on his pocket time machine
>> (ouch) and it went off and sent him back to the days when the Earth was
>> in liquid form.  Poor Spot!
>
>Pocket time machine? How many pockets did poor Spot have?

One too many, it would seem...

kbq
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff)
Subject: Re: Ozzie UFOs
Organization: BeHereNow
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:06:01 GMT


Yes,

reports of Ausi UFO's would be interesting, and that goes for other
continents as well... Any body in S. America or Africa want to join
in here?

Jeff-
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Subject: Re: EMF Vehicle Construction
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 20:23:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
Distribution: usa
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <8720.13443@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM>, lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas) writes...
>I leave the following file for you all to accept, debunk, or
>place in your kill file...whatever...Len
>=============================================
> 
> 
> 
>                (word processor parameters LM=8, RM=78, TM=2, BM=2)
>                      Taken from KeelyNet BBS (214) 324-3501
>                           Sponsored by Vangard Sciences
>                                    PO BOX 1031
>                                Mesquite, TX 75150
> 
>                                 October 16, 1990
> 
>                               listed on KeelyNet as
>                                     UFO4.ZIP
> 
>       --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>                           How to Build a Flying Saucer
>                                   After So Many
>                                     Amateurs
>                                    Have Failed
> 
>                        An essay in Speculative Engineering
> 
>                                 by T. B. Pawlicki
> 
>       --------------------------------------------------------------------
======================================================================
But will it cure the common cold? I really hate to have to admit it but
I am going to have to join the ranks of others who are defecting a.a.v.
Attempting to wade through all the loose ends (in more ways than one) to
find the few claims and statements worth checking further is getting to be
just too darn much. I really used to be a fairly firm believer in the poss-
ibility of other life visiting us but if I keep reading this I am going to
become as closed minded as others on the net, I don't want this to happen.
I'll see you in about a year and see if anything has changed much.

Boy I feel bad about this.

======================================================================
   We are rapidly ascending through prosperity to poverty...  Twain
                    Internet:    jim@apsicc.aps.edu
       Albuquerque Public Schools - Instructional System Manager 
======================================================================
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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: FILE: HUFON report on Underground Base in Calif
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 08:16:40 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: I wouldn't recommend that you all go to sleep too soundly
yet. The battle is not won yet.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Serious Questions
Date: Fri,  1 Jan 93 09:53:26 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <etalvio.725852495@vipunen.hut.fi>

Dear Folks: There is no one who can prove the fact that space craft are
visiting us at the present time and in the past except youself. Check 
it out for yourself. We have hard evidence of space craft in the 
hangers at Groom Lake, Calif. Lazar has attempted to tell the word 
about it and they have just about ruined him. Craft have been found
in New Mexico and people are still fighting over that incident. Just
do your own investigating and prove it to yourself.
John Winston.
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Las Vegas UFO Congress
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 06:55:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear Folks: Denise can tell you all about it if she was not so bashful.
John Winston.
From: wilbur@lobster.cps.msu.edu (Brick Wilbur)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: NASA antigravity patent
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:38:53 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: lobster.cps.msu.edu



Can someone please send me the original(and subsequent) posts on Nasa's
anti-gravity machine patent.

Thanks,

Brick
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic
From: csbdb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Brett D. Bensley)
Subject: Re: FILE: HUFON report on Underground Base in Calif
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:01:27 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University
Keywords: Crop Circles
Followup-To: csbdb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu

I am interested in digized photos or sources or photos of the Crop
Circles.  I am not interested in those proved to be hoaxes!  If you could
contact me directly or send any photos, it would be appreciated!

Brett Bensley, csbdb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
From: spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Everyone Listen-up!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 21:55:59 GMT
Organization: University of Calif., San Diego/Microscopy and Imaging Resource
NNTP-Posting-Host: pitstop.ucsd.edu

In article <72694@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear People: I'm not an alien. I was born in Texas.

That's alien enough for me.

Beam him up, Scotty.

							spl



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frequently, Why not."   - Joyce Carol Oates, "The Boyfriend"
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 26 Dec 1992 17:23:20 CST
From: <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Moderated Newsgroup

I too propose that a moderated newsgroup be formed.  It seems that
John Winston gets a kick out of annoying people.  It has also been
proposed that we just ignore him.  This obviously hasn't worked since
many people are still publicly responded to his net posts.  So let's
form a new MODERATED newsgroup.
Ethan Haslett
u37460@uicvm.uic.edu
From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Enuf is enuf. Time for a moderated group...
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:06:41 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

smg6@po.CWRU.Edu (Stanley M. Golem) writes:
: 
: Sad but true: this really has to a moderated group.  It reminds me
: of gradeschool, where a teacher would give the kids quite a bit of
: rope until the "bad apples" hung the rest of the class.
: 
: There seems to be quite a group of people ready to jump ship (me
: among them).  Maybe we should just go find our own sandbox to play
: in.
: --

If you find someone who agrees to moderate it, you've found 
either a (Wo)Man without Fear or a complete fool.  Moderating
a group like this would inevitably lead to vicious flame wars,
accusations of attachment to various intelligence agencies, 
and a million other distinctly unpleasant things.  Of course,
the whole think would occur off-screen, as it were, so you'd
have the appearance of harmony...

Bill
From: etalvio@vipunen.hut.fi (Samuli Talvio)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Serious Questions
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:41:35 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In <1992Dec31.072833.23557@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nnelson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas P Nelson) writes:
>     Personally, I am not convinced that there are aliens roaming the earth to
>kidnap people from their homes.  I am not even convinced that alien spacecraft
>have visited the earth. I can guarantee that I have an open mind on the
>subject.  I would rather see a serious discussion in alt.alien.visitors than
>the ramblings of JW and the follow ups to his posts.

	I have an open mid on UFO's also. Which means I have no more hard
evidence on UFO's than anyone else does, since I have not seen nor heard them,
but I still believe they can (and do) exist. It is merely probable: there
are a nearly infinite amount of stars with a planet which is suitable for
inhabitation.
	I belive that if (and since) there are aliens "invading" Earth, they
hardly are here to conquer us. What would they gain for taking Tellus
for themselves? Just a mere planet with intelligent beings; no big deal.
	If aliens really are here and most of the people haven't heard of
them, they must have technology so superb compared to us, that they actually
might even make fun of us trying to find out who and from where they were.
With superb technology, they would probably just see what Earth turns out
to be in a couple of millennia, what humans can do to make the World a
civilised member of the Universe. And, if so, we would have nothing to
worry about except to not get over-confident.

Samuli Talvio

UFO's certainly exist, but are we their playground?
Anyways, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
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From: harry@elfuerte.fipnet.fi (Harri Pesonen)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: FILE: HUFON report on Underground Base in Calif
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:13:13 GMT
Organization: Fipnet, Helsinki, Finland
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article ??? vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> In article <72389@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
> > Dear Folks: I wouldn't recommend that you all go to sleep too soundly
> > yet. The battle is not won yet.
> > John Winston.
> 
> This idiot's replies have all the ingenuity of a C- AI class project. Winston's
> ramblings would probably make a decent random number generator.
> 
> It is time to moderate this group to get this shit out the group. He
> contributes *nothing* except weird cryptic messages that mean nothing to
> anyone. I used to enjoy this group earlier this year.

This idiot is the only reason why I read this group.  Gary Stollman was
another, but I think John is even better!

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,sci.skeptic
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: FILE: HUFON report on Underground Base in Calif
Organization: very little
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:18:32 GMT

In article <72430@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear One and All: I believe that you will find that the Great And
>Noble Kibo understands me quite well.
>John Winston.


ah-HA!!!!  The cat is finally out of the bag.  Has John ever posted such
an obvious hint that it is ALL a joke....that he is just screwing with
our heads?


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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Everyone Listen-up!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 07:53:47 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Dear People: I'm not an alien. I was born in Texas.
John Winston.
From: greenie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: UFO Discussions on Internet BBS
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:34:39 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club



Attention Internet Users:

There is an Online Service reachable through the Internet that offers 
stimulating conversation and entertainment.  We offer Usenet NEWS and other
local message areas.  We also have File Transfers available for many computer
types, with either modem or network file transfer capability (XMODEM, ZMODEM
and FTP).

We have access to several MUDs including Vincents Hollow, and great
multi-player games such as Conquest, a full-screen space battle game,
and other entertainment sections, such as a CB Simulator and IRC Chat.
We host weekly CB conferences on various topics ranging from education
instruction practices to events on current affairs.  People from all over
the world participate in our message areas - bringing the world closer
together to form a global meeting place.

One of our active local message areas is "Skeptics Abound", where we're
presently discussing and debating the existence of "UFO's".  Pop in and
join the conversation.

We offer Internet access to all users, however Commercial users are
restricted to non-NSFnet access.  Only Educational and Research uses
are permitted over the NSFnet.

TELNET, FTP, MAIL, FINGER, and TALK access is available online.

The name of the system is the IDS World Network.  To access the system;

      Modem:  (401) 884-9002   (high speed numbers available upon request)
      Internet:      telnet ids.net   [155.212.1.2]

Members of the Education and Research community are invited to participate,
as we are constantly looking to link users from these groups together.  We
are presently involved with connecting the State of Rhode Island and it's
K-12 schools to the Internet, and are interested in sharing experiences
with Internet in the classroom.

Andy, green@ids.net
From: christ@cie.uoregon.edu (Christian G. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Mass sighting in Mexico?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 21:48:10 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

  I was talking to someone on IRC about UFO's last night and they said
that several weeks ago (at least, maybe more) there was some humungo
mass-sighting over Mexico which 50k-500k people whitnessed.  That it 
was all over the media when it happened (except of course in the US)
and that I could ask anyone and maybe even a TV station and get some
tape shot of this craft (which allegedly landed then took off again).
  I haven't subscribed to a.a.v in a while, those Zeta Grey and crystal
freaks really took this place down a couple of notches, but if there's
any "truth" (heh, I know, a relative term) I'd like to know.  
 
  Thank you +very+ much, 
 
-christian
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: EMF Vehicle Construction
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 08:38:43 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Dear Folks: I copied all that information now I'll see if I can figure 
it out.
John Winston.