From: riese@litsuns1.epfl.ch (Marc Riese)
Newsgroups: can.politics,can.francais
Subject: Re: O Canada, O Quebec  - reaction
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:34:09 GMT
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Merci pour la critique du livre Thomas.
Apres avoir lu celle dans l'edition du 30 mars de Maclean's, je n'avais pas
envie de le lire non plus. L'auteur de la critique dit que l'anti-semitisme
Quebecois de l'epoque etait plus ou moins similaire de celui du TROC.
La critique traite le racisme de l'Abbe' Groulx, mais, si je me rappelle
bien, elle traite egalement celui de l'eglise Catholique.
J'ai ete decu que la these de doctorat concernee n'a meme pas ete mentionnee.

Pour les obsedes des symboles, la critique inclut une photo d'un jeune homme
fache au defile de St Jean Baptiste avec ce qui reste d'un drapeau
Canadien qu'il a apparemment dechire. Je fait allusion a ceci parce que
quelqu'un sur can.francais a pretendu recemment que ce genre de betise
ne se fait que par les TROCiens:
>Des Quebecois n'ont jamais pietinee sur le Drapeau de l'Ontario.
Dans son "Guide des Quebecois..." Sylvain Chamberland a ecrit
<1992Mar20.005015.29695@watserv1.waterloo.edu>
>I heard of brainless Quebec nationalists burning the
>Canadian flag only by anglophones, while I am sure that the event when the
>APEC dinosaurs walked on Quebec flag was not reported in TROC newspapers
>as it was in Quebec's...
Personnellement, j'ai ras le bol des mesquinneries des deux cotes.
C'est ignoble et indigne. Parlons des choses plus importantes!

Un avis que je partage avec Richler c'est que la caracteristique commune 
la plus significative entre les Quebecois et les TROCiens, c'est que nous
avons generalement du mauvais gout. Par rapport aux Europeens, c'est vrai.

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Thanks for the book review Thomas.
After reading the review in Maclean's March 30th edition, I didn't
feel very interested in reading the book either. The reviewer points out that
Quebecois anti-semitism of the time was more or less like that in TROC.
It points out Abbe Groulx's racism, but, if I remember correctly, it also
points out the anti-semitism of the Catholic church.
I was disappointed that the related doctoral thesis was not even mentioned
in the review.

For those who are obsessed with symbols, the review has a photo of an angry
young man at the St Jean Baptiste parade with the remains of a Canadian
flag he apparently shredded. I only mention this because a recent poster
on can.francais claimed that such silliness was only done by TROCiens:
>Des Quebecois n'ont jamais pietinee sur le Drapeau de l'Ontario.
In his "Quebecker's Guide, Sylvain Chamberland wrote:
>I heard of brainless Quebec nationalists burning the
>Canadian flag only by anglophones, while I am sure that the event when the
>APEC dinosaurs walked on Quebec flag was not reported in TROC newspapers
>as it was in Quebec's...
Personally, I'm sick to death of all this pettiness from both sides. 
Its ignoble and undignified. Let's talk about something more important!

Perhaps it's one of the common characteristics of all Canadians. One point 
I agree with Richler about is that the most significant common characteristic
between Quebecois and TROCiens is that we generally have bad taste.
With respect to the Europeans, it's true.

Marc Riese
Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Switzerland
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