HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Most recent TeX
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:21:53 GMT
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.

fasano@venus.phyast.pitt.edu (Chris Fasano) writes:
: 
:  Hello,
: 
:     Can anyone tell me at which anonymous ftp site I can find the
:  most recent version of TeX/LaTeX... for the NeXT?  I know this
:  has been discussed here, but I can't seem to find it on the
:  FAQ.
: 
:  Thanks in advance for your help...
: 
:  Cheers!
: 
:  Chris Fasano

It's at labrea.stanford.edu (IP# 36.8.0.47) in the file

nexttex-alpha.tar.Z

along wiht complete installation instructions.

TLM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: silbar@mpx2.lampf.lanl.gov (Dick Silbar)
Subject: re: My cursor went south -- SUMMARY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: LAMPF Data Analysis Center, Los Alamos, New Mexico
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:14:00 GMT

I got three helpful responses to my posting (although I wasn't really 
asking for help; by the time I posted I had cured the problem or the 
problem had cured itself.)

-----

Begin forwarded message (from Scott Hess):


  Logout out and login as exit to kill the windowserver.  Or,
  perhaps it's good enough to logout/login.  

Latter didn't work; I presume the former is a weaker form of reboot, 
which did cure the mouse.

  I've had the
  problems with Courier as the window titles, and it's not
  something that "sticks", it just goes away for no reason I am
  certain of.  But I suspect that it's something in the
  windowserver that gets wedged, which is why the
  exit-the-windowserver advice ...

It did go away on the next (second) reboot, but then I had also found 
"dread" showed GLOBAL NXFont Courier, which I did a dwrite GLOBAL NXFont 
Helvetica before that.  It may or may not have had any affect.

-----

Begin forwarded message (from Art Isbell):

  I've not lost my cursor (well, I have, but it's happened when 
  something panicked the system :-), but I have seen the Courier font 
  in Window titles, Menus, etc.  The cure is to just restart the 
  window server by typing "exit" and 2 returns in the Login Panel.  
  Then when the Login Panel reappears, log in as usual and the fonts 
  should be normal.  I don't know why this occasionally happens, but 
  it has been so rare that I just ignored it.

Sounds consistent with Scott's experience.

-----

Begin forwarded message (from Soo Lee):

  - run Terminal
  - type "pft" followed by return.
  - type "showcursor" and hit return; if you don't get the cursor 
    back, type "showcursor" a few more times. 
  - then type "Control-D" to exit

Interesting -- I didn't know about pft.  Next time, if it ever happens again.

  I am afraid your "~/.NeXT" directory is munged by crash or some 
  mishap like disk full. Copy fresh ".NeXT" to rebuild your own from 
  somewhere others account. Before copy another .NeXT, it might work 
  well if you remove ~/.NeXT/.NeXTdefaults.L.

Well, no crash or disk-full or whatever.  This is also a new approach (for 
me), but, as noted above, the problem already went away.

Thanks, everybody.

   Dick Silbar

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: chuck@hans.mit.edu (Chuck Parsons)
Subject: Will there be a back to school special?
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:42:00 GMT


  I am seriously considering purchasing a NeXT machine and was a little
dissapointed to go down the the campus computer store (MIT) and find that
the prices are a few hundred dollars more than I remember from last fall.

  In particular the base 25mhz 8meg 105mb disk was $2820 but you need
to add a monitor which is $750 for grey scale. Thats $3570 for the
absolute minumum setup.  A more resonable setup 33Mhz 250MB drive
and 8MB memory is another $475.

  Given the time of year I thought it possible that NeXT might be
rolling out a promo for the new scholl year as well as to dump all the 
slabs before the RISC machines come out (I assume they won't come out 
before Christmas).

 Does anybody know of a better deal on NeXT machines or have any info
of impending sales events?


  Many thanks,
    Chuck@pierre.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Subject: Re: painless software distribution
Reply-To: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:35:21 GMT

In article <59187@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> 
> I called Appsoft for a student copy of WriteNow, gave them
> the credit number in the afternoon, they sent it via NeXT mail and
> I was using it that night.  A fast and painless distribution
> scheme that says money for everyone - they said its their preferred  
method.
> 
> Many companies will send demos that way too

Athena Design now offers demo versions of Mesa via e-mail for those who do  
not have FTP capability.  Just e-mail to freemesa@athena.com (please make  
sure your reply-to field is correct) and you will receive a demo copy of  
Mesa, our spreadsheet for NeXTSTEP.  Sample files can be obtained from  
mesafile@athena.com and a PostScript copy of the documentation is  
available from mesadocs@athena.com.

Once we release the commercial version of Mesa (it is now in beta  
testing), users will be able to upgrade from the demo version to a working  
version simply by entering a license number and enabling code.

David
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jgg@proforma.com (J. G. Gregory)
Subject: Re: Mystery: NewsGrazer running really slow
Organization: Pro Forma
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.033037.2016@math.ucla.edu> barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu  
(Barry Merriman) writes:
>For the past few days, my NewsGrazer has been running really slow:
>taking minutes to sort articles, retrieve an article etc, while this
>used to take seconds. I get lots of wait cursor action, but no disk seeking
>sounds.

I have noticed recently that NewsGrazer was suddenly eating up huge chunks of  
CPU, usually after being hidden for a awhile.  Everything would go into slow  
motion.  I have TimeMon, which shows the use really clearly.  Anyway, I just  
quit now instead of hide.  This isn't exactly the problem you mention, but  
something is strange.

Too bad NewsGrazer is unsupported.

--J Gregory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling)
Subject: Re: 3.0 right to use license without CD?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:31:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.174854.6556@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> tom@cse.fau.edu  
(Tom Horton) writes:
> Does anyone know if NeXT plans to offer a right-to-use license/upgrade  
> *without* the CD for less money than buying 3.0 on CD?   This would  
benefit  
> sites with more than one machine, and folks with personal machines and  
access  
> to a CD-drive and CD at work.   If so, does anyone know the list price?

NeXT offers a license only version of 3.0 for the same price as with the  
CD-ROM. However, academic customers can buy multiple licenses with fewer  
CD-ROMs at a considerable discount. Contact your campus reseller for more  
information.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
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From: jsalcido@nmsu.edu (Jason Salcido)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: printing alphaimages in create?
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:03:31 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University



I have a scanned eps image that I import into a create document.  When I print  
it, all that comes out where the image is, is a gray block. The only way to  
print it is to change it to a tiff file which (I believe) loses image  
integrity.  Does anyone know what the problem is???


Jason
Please e-mail me.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: alex@fff.chem.utah.edu (Alex Dommasch)
Subject: Librarian problem:  can't create index for Unix man pages
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:17:20 GMT

The subject line says it all.  I accidently deleted the index for the Unix man  
pages in Librarian.  When press the "Create Index" button, it chugs for a few  
seconds, the button changes to "Update Index" for an instant (like it had  
created the index), then it changes back to "Create Index".  What's going on?

Just for the heck of it, I deleted the index on the NeXTUser reference, and  
successfully recreated it.  The only problem is with the Unix man pages.

Can anybody help me?

Thanks.
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From: dan@quiensabe.az.stratus.com (Dan Danz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: zsh help --- 2 "quirks"
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:29:13 GMT
Reply-To: dan@az.stratus.com

John McCracken writes
>If I su root (or any user, for that matter), and then change directories
>and try to edit a file using emacs, emacs DOESN'T FIND THE FILE!  If I do
>a pwd, it tells me that my default directory is where I think I am, but
>emacs tries to open the file in the directory I was in when I "su'd"!
>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't know that I "solved it" .. but I know what makes it work right:
run the login when you su.  That is, "su -", and the problem goes away.
Basically, pwd and emacs are using different things, and one of the
quirky things about su without the dash is that some things in the
environment are preserved and others aren't.

I haven't bothered to chase it down to the exact environment variables
involved.

I hope this helps.

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From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Cost for OS upgrades?
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:45:16 GMT
Reply-To: jkeenan@next.com

In article <4870@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> bobcook@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU  
(Bob Cook) writes:
> 
> We were told (by our NeXT Marketing Representative's secretary) that all  
> machines "ordered" after 1/1/92 would get the upgrade free.  (However, I  
don't  
> think you'll get the CD-ROM drive free :-) ).
> 

Actually, that should be 1/22/92, the day 3.0 was announced at NeXTWorld Expo.


joe
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Dvorak keymapping for NeXT (type at twice the speed!)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:29:03 GMT
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.

In article <1992Jul20.215409.20745@metropolis.com> robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer) writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul20.084352.16733@research.canon.oz.au>
>greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney) writes:
>
>> Howdy,
>
>> You may or may not be aware that the common QWERTY keyboard to which most of
>> us are accustomed is a direct descendant of the keyboard used originally on
>> an early typesetting machine long before computers were invented.  [...] By
>> some curious and unfortunate quirk of fate, this is the same QWERTY keyboard
>> most of the world uses today.
>
>Actually, what I heard was that when Dr. Dvorak presented his optimized
>keyboard layout to the typewriter manufacturers, they thought, "Hmmm..... Type
>twice as fast?  That means..... half as many typists.  That means..... half as
>many typewriters.  That means..... half as many sales.  NO THANKS."
>
>> A much better alternative is the Dvorak keyboard. This keyboard is considered
>> to be at least twice as easy to learn, and almost twice the speed of QWERTY.
>
>Not to mention twice as comfortable, and half as tiring.
>
>> [...] Then grab a pair of long-nosed pliers and start reefing off the
>> keytops!  [...] Your machine will now use a Dvorak keyboard for anyone that
>> logs in on it (provided they haven't set their own personal Keymap), and any
>> other machine you log in on will remain QWERTY. Now start learning to type
>> again!.
>
>Another alternative that works very well is just to leave the key tops alone.
>As you mentioned, the Dvorak keyboard is easy to learn.  And leaving the key
>key tops in the old 19th-century arrangement can help you learn Dvorak-style
>touch-typing even faster, because it keeps you from being tempted to "cheat"
>by looking down at the keyboard and your fingers.  I've heard that some typing
>schools have typewriters with BLANK keys, to prevent this sort of "cheating".

Well, I have my machine setup for dvorak layout now and I like it...
after a couple of days, I'm already picking up speed, but I can type 4
times as fast on QWERTY still...  It's cool though and something I've
wanted to do for a long time.

andrew
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Cube Technologies, Inc. |  If I am only for myself, who am I?" -Hillel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Compatibility of 1.0 -> 3.0
Summary: Should we save any 1.0 stuff?
Keywords: NeXTstep, upgrading
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:17:29 GMT

I hope to clean up some old optical disks (you remember the OD, don't you?)
soon to get some space.

Question: What 1.0 stuff should I save? Will it even work with 3.0?

I know no source code will really make it from 1.0 to 3.0, but what
about binary compatibilty? Will 1.0 binaries run under 3.0?

Hopefully I'll be able to retain my original copy of Eyecon!

Thanks for the help,
Charlie



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From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga (DOS) emulator
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:34:17 GMT

In article <YePUNYK00WB5ECXq4i@andrew.cmu.edu> rg20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rick  
Stanley Francis) writes:
> Your post's title was a bit misleading, after all you only seem to
> want to emulate the Amiga's file system.

[ suggests using MS-DOS disks ]

I do that now.  I don't have a floppy drive on my NeXT, so I use
a Sparc's.

You probably could make the NeXT drive do the trick.  An
MS-DOS DD disk is 80 cylinders, 9 sectors per.  An Amiga
disk is 80 cylinders and 11 sectors per.  If you can coax the
drive into doing that, you'd just have to implement the
filesystem, which shouldn't be much harder than the
MS-DOS one was.

(An Amiga drive can do either as well as more bizarre
stuff.)

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer)
Subject: Re: Dvorak keymapping for NeXT (type at twice the speed!)
Organization: Metropolis Software, Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 21:54:09 GMT


In article <1992Jul20.084352.16733@research.canon.oz.au>
greyham@research.canon.oz.au (Graham Stoney) writes:

> Howdy,

> You may or may not be aware that the common QWERTY keyboard to which most of
> us are accustomed is a direct descendant of the keyboard used originally on
> an early typesetting machine long before computers were invented.  [...] By
> some curious and unfortunate quirk of fate, this is the same QWERTY keyboard
> most of the world uses today.

Actually, what I heard was that when Dr. Dvorak presented his optimized
keyboard layout to the typewriter manufacturers, they thought, "Hmmm..... Type
twice as fast?  That means..... half as many typists.  That means..... half as
many typewriters.  That means..... half as many sales.  NO THANKS."

> A much better alternative is the Dvorak keyboard. This keyboard is considered
> to be at least twice as easy to learn, and almost twice the speed of QWERTY.

Not to mention twice as comfortable, and half as tiring.

> [...] Then grab a pair of long-nosed pliers and start reefing off the
> keytops!  [...] Your machine will now use a Dvorak keyboard for anyone that
> logs in on it (provided they haven't set their own personal Keymap), and any
> other machine you log in on will remain QWERTY. Now start learning to type
> again!.

Another alternative that works very well is just to leave the key tops alone.
As you mentioned, the Dvorak keyboard is easy to learn.  And leaving the key
key tops in the old 19th-century arrangement can help you learn Dvorak-style
touch-typing even faster, because it keeps you from being tempted to "cheat"
by looking down at the keyboard and your fingers.  I've heard that some typing
schools have typewriters with BLANK keys, to prevent this sort of "cheating".

Also, if you leave the key tops alone, you can use the Dvorak key layout on a
machine that doesn't belong to you.  You don't even have to have access to the
superuser account.

I use a Dvorak keymapping file on our NeXT machine at work, where everybody
else uses the old "designed to be slow and painful" keyboard layout.  When I
log in, the keyboard automatically catches up with the 20th century, and when
I log out, it automatically goes back to the 1800's.

If you're still reading this, you're probably interested in the Dvorak keyboard
layout.  In that case, you might want to peruse the Dvorak thread that is being
discussed in comp.sys.mac.system right now.

______________________________________________________________________
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robert@metropolis.com    |      -- Bishop, _Aliens_
From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Cost for OS upgrades?
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:38:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


	I'm considering the purchase of a next system.  Does anyone have
an approximate price for an OS upgrade when 3.0 ships?  From what I 
uderstand, 3.0 is promising a lot of needed features.

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From: ssietz@dartagnan.rutgers.edu (Steven Sietz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Motd app -- where??
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:21:04 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I have seen references to a Motd.app  but haven't located it in the
archives.  Can someone either give me a path or mail me the app?

Pardon my ignorance if this is an obvious question...

		-Steve-
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: ray@mtl.mit.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Subject: New version of EquationBuilder on archives
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:52:46 GMT



Hi All,

We have just placed EquationBuilder0.9b(118) at
sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu.  It can
currently be found as
pub/next/submissions/EquationBuilder0.9b118.tar.Z,
but it will slowly migrate to the appropriate demo
directories.  

The main change in this version is a new demo mode.  This new
version of EqB will run full featured for 2 minutes, then
switch off all output including saving, printing, and
copy/pasting to other applications.  All other features
will remain enabled.  This gives 2 minutes with which to
demo how well EqB interfaces with other applications,
and an unlimited amount of time to get familiar with the
application itself. 

We think that this new approach addresses most of the
concerns that have been raised in the past week in these
groups about what makes a reasonable demo  (if not, I'm
sure we'll find out ;-)  Once again, we ask that anyone who
finds that this demo does not allow them to adequately
evaluate the application to contact us so we can make
arrangements. 

Our apologies to those whom our previous demo may have
unnecessarily annoyed.  That was certainly not our
intent.  Given the recent discussion on this group about
what makes a usable demo, we are much more aware of what the
community expects.  We hope this latest version meets
those expectations. 

Thanks...

Ray Ghanbari
Digital Tool Works
ray@dtw.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Editing '.ps' files?
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:33:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.113455.13997@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>
	tim@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) writes:
>Please podon my ignorance but it would seem that PostScript is a great
>output file format but not readily available as an input format.  While
>I am able to open a '.ps' file in Edit, all I see is "raw" PostScript".
>WriteNow will not even show that a '.ps' file exists in it's open panel.
>While Preview is great for display of a '.ps' file, how does one convert
>it to an input format such as RTF or ASCII (without the PS commands)?

This is one of the most commonly asked questions in the newsgroup
comp.lang.postscript.  <-- blatant plug

The general answer is, "you can't."  PostScript is an honest-to-
goodness programming language, and the ONLY way to make sense of
arbitrary PostScript is to execute it.  Except for rigid subsets
(such as Adobe Illustrator format) that are basically data
structures suitably contrived to pass for valid PostScript, it's
impossible to do what you're asking for any but the most trivial
files (which generally means no reencodings, no kerning, etc.).
Sometimes you can get away with redefining a whole bunch of
operators (ref. distill) and get something meaningful, especially
if whatever generated the PostScript in the first place wasn't
deliberately mean-spirited.

					-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dbbrown@eastrg2.cray.com (Dan Brown)
Subject: Re: Powering on at a certain time with upgraded Cube?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:10:09 CDT

In article <1992Jul23.133012.21215@wam.umd.edu> elitman@rac2.wam.umd.edu (Eric A. Litman) writes:
>wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:
>: 
>: The weak point is of course that to boot the machine I have to press the
>: "Power" button on the keyboard. Is there a way I can make the machine forget
>: about the power button at power up time?
>
  I just asked my instructor at Dev Camp the same question. He said that
only boards made from the Color Station on contain the chip to allow it to 
power on. (Can be set in preferences). I upgraded my cube to a 25 MHZ 040
and it does not qualify. I presume the Turbo boards/machines and the NeXT
Station Color will allow this.

                    Dan
From: cedman@714-725-3165.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs app as default editor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Reply-To: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:15:33 GMT

Steven Sietz writes
> I just installed the app yesterday.  I tried a dwrite
> Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs to set it up as the
> default editor but it didn't work properly.  After I
> logged out and in again, I couldn't open up any of the text
> files (not even with Edit).  Any suggestions??

Emacs does not have a openFile method. Adding it is not too hard.

	Carl Edman