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From: k32116h@puukko.hut.fi (Petri Riihikallio)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X Window Protocol Specs (?)
Date: 7 Nov 92 08:31:58 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

Date: 6 Nov 92 19:03:45 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov6.190345.29073@nntp.hut.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Where can I find more info about the bit stream between a X Window server and
client ? If you know a good, accessible or definite description, please let
me know about it.

I am studying computer communications, especially OSI. I would like to take
a look at another implementation of communicating structured data between
dissimilar systems. I believe (hope) that X Window Protocol is somewhat more
efficient than ASN.1 / BER.

Cheers

Petri

Petri.Riihikallio@hut.fi
From: atinc!root@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU (Operator)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XVT toolkit??
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:02:35 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: atinc.com

Date: 6 Nov 92 17:32:38 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov6.173238.6810@atinc.uucp>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif,comp.windows.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.misc

I would like inputs from anyone who has used the XVT Portability Toolkit. I'm looking at
XVT for supporting Motif, Mac, and OS/2 PM. One key issue is how XVT handles different
screen resolutions. Another is of course, performance.  

ronyd@atinc
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xterm gobbles characters 128-159
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:58:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 17:22:02 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov2.172202.28576@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Oct30.083951.28444@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il>, dov@menora.weizmann.ac.il (Dov Grobgeld) writes:

> My xterm (X11R5) running under AIX 3.1.5 eats up all characters in
> the range 128-159.  I guess that it assumes these are control
> characters with the eight bit set.

xterm's interpretation of the bits sent to it is designed around the
ANSI X3.64 standard.  X3.64 specifies that the characters in the range
128-159 are control characters, the so-called C1 set.  I am on a dumb
terminal just now, so I can't check, but I would assume that xterm is
interpreting them as such, so that if you send it character code 141,
for example, it will move the cursor up.

> Is there any way of turning of this interpretation so that the
> characters show up on the screen?

Use The Source, Luke.  You'll have to decide just how far from X3.64
you want to deviate, and then implement whatever you decide....

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: larry@shark.mitra.com (Larry Williamson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: WCL templates are causing us trouble (version 2.3)
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:59:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mitra Imaging Inc.

Date: 12 Nov 92 21:55:08 GMT
Message-Id: <LARRY.92Nov12165508@shark.mitra.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I have not had any luck getting templates to work properly with Wcl
versions greater than 2.1. They work okay in version 2.1.

I had not been able to install version 2.2 since our applications
needed templates and we could never workout just why they stopped
working. I tried to install 2.3, but no luck!

The Mri test using templates fails as well as our own applications.
Everything else works as advertised.

Error messages from Mri are always ...

	Wcl Warning: Mri.main.table.15.wcCreate resource missing - need class or constructor

Our environment is a SunOS 4.1.2, X11R5 (fix-12), Motif 1.1.3.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-Larry
From: gfreeman@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Graham Freeman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XDrawPoint unreliable with some servers
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:38:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia

Date: 12 Nov 92 22:43:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov12.224339.28874@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I am experiencing unreliability with XDrawPoint in the following
context:
   for (i = 0; i < height; i++) 
   {
      for (j = 0; j < width; j++) 
      {
         pixel_val = (some low integer based on i and j);
         XSetForeground(display, graph_context, pixel_val);
         XDrawPoint(display, win_dow, graph_context, j, i);
      }
   }

I am running this on a SPARC under X11R5.  If I display on a R5
server (a Labtam X-terminal) it works fine.  

If I display on a R3 server (an Apollo at SR10.3), only some of the 
points get drawn (approximately 30% of them).

I have done an XGetImage on individual pixels, which verifies that
they simply are not being set.  Equally, if I do an XGetGCValues
before the XDrawPoint, it demonstrates that the graphics context
is correctly set by the XSetForeground.

Experiments with XSync and XSynchronize have not improved reliability.

If I repeat the XDrawPoint call (ie. do the same call immediately)
all pixels are reliably set!  
    
(Yes, I know that XDrawPoint is a most inefficient way to do what I 
want, and that I would be better using an XImage at the client end.
All I want to know is why it is unreliable.)

                                       Graham Freeman
From: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell~)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Compiling aXe. anything wrong?
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:21:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Intel Corporation

Date: 6 Nov 92 18:31:21 GMT
Message-Id: <1dedlpINNipn@chnews.intel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


In article <bibhas.721065324@femto.engr.mun.ca>, bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya) writes:
> ip217@brems.ii.uib.no (Torgeir Veimo) writes:
> 
> >Help!
> 
> >When i try to compile aXe version 3.1 on our sun 3/50s here, i get the message
> 
> >[...]
> >cc -c -O   -I/usr/include  -I.     -DHELPDIR=\"/usr/lib/X11\" AxeEditor.c
> >"AxeEditor.c", line 1728: object undefined
> >Compilation failed
> >*** Error code 1
> >make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `AxeEditor.o'

  I patched aXe for the RS/6000. I guess the problem is more widespread than
that. Here is the patch:

This patch file was created on Fri Nov 06 11:30:19 MST 1992.

The top level directory was /a/stor/x11dev/R5/contrib/clients/aXe-3.1


*** ./AxeEditor.c_orig  Sun Sep 20 15:02:50 1992
--- ./AxeEditor.c       Sun Sep 20 15:30:22 1992
***************
*** 2365,2369 ****
   *************************************************************/

- #include <sys/stat.h>
  extern int errno;
  extern char *sys_errlist[];
--- 2365,2368 ----


    Cheers,

    Tom McConnell
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From: svdhara@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11 libraries
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:23:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:28:03 EST
Message-Id: <1992Nov5.162803.17662@newstand.syr.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

	Obviously,it is looking for some library containing those
	two functions.I searched the libraries and couldnt find it.
	Can anybody tell me where to look for those two functions?

	I give the functions again:
	get_wmShellWidgetClass
	get_applicationShellWidgetClass
	My email address:svdhara@mailbox.syr.edu
From: marcus@iiasa.ac.at (Marcus SCHNELL)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: SUIT experiences wanted!
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:10:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis

Date: 10 Nov 92 08:38:40 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov10.083840.21030@iiasa.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I'm interested in talking to anybody out there who has used
the SUIT package to build moderately/very complex user interfaces.

In particular I would like to know about any experiences in building
one's own widgets to be used in SUIT applications.

Any help is appreciated.

Marcus

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From: flee@synoptics.com (Frank Lee)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: How to create a button?
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:51:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.

Date: 5 Nov 92 21:21:12 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov5.212112.8105@netnews.synoptics.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article 15669@sparc4.ncu.edu.tw, u438813@ba.ncu.edu.tw (Lin Wei-Ting) writes:
>I want to create a button on a canvas and give the button a callback function.
>How should I do? I write programs in XView.
>
>Thanks.
>
>u438813@im.mgt.ncu.edu.tw
>

You can't call xv_create(p, PANEL_BUTTON, ...) in canvas.  You have to draw your
own and then use WIN_EVENT_PROC in the canvas to check the mouse movement to assign
your callback function.  When user move the mouse to that area and do a MS_LEFT
event then you trigger your callback routine.  Good luck.
From: envbvs@epb11.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: xfig 2.1.5 side ruler not updating
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:56:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: lbl

Date: 13 Nov 92 01:05:51 GMT
Message-Id: <27423@dog.ee.lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps

In article <1992Nov10.150930.1348@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>, chris@luchs (Christian Forst) writes:
|> In xfig2.1.5 the y-ruler doesn't scale when zooming and doesn't move at all
|> (the grid and the figure on it does). Has anyone solutions or patches
|> available ?

This is due to a bug in the Intrinsics.  Theoretically, the same thing should
happen to the top ruler because they are identical, but it works fine.

Apply the following patch:

*** w_rulers.c.orig	Mon Nov  2 15:19:02 1992
--- w_rulers.c	Wed Nov 11 14:03:46 1992
***************
*** 454,459 ****
--- 454,462 ----
  			  TOPRULER_HT - QUARTER_MARK - 1);
  	}
      }
+     /* change the pixmap ID to fool the intrinsics to actually set the pixmap */
+     FirstArg(XtNbackgroundPixmap, 0);
+     SetValues(topruler_sw);
      FirstArg(XtNbackgroundPixmap, p);
      SetValues(topruler_sw);
  }
***************
*** 743,748 ****
--- 746,754 ----
  	    }
  	}
      }
+     /* change the pixmap ID to fool the intrinsics to actually set the pixmap */
+     FirstArg(XtNbackgroundPixmap, 0);
+     SetValues(sideruler_sw);
      FirstArg(XtNbackgroundPixmap, p);
      SetValues(sideruler_sw);
  }

-- 
Brian V. Smith    (bvsmith@lbl.gov)
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xdbx for X11R5 ?
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:51:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany

Date: 5 Nov 92 07:53:56 GMT
Message-Id: <1dajukINN4uq@fbi-news.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps

In article <1992Nov4.145253.7218@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>,
wilk@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Christian Wilk) writes:
|> is there a version of xdbx for X11R5 and on which server could I find
|> it. On export.lcs.mit.edu I`ve only found one for X11R4.

You could try the patch below in order to compile xdbx successfully under
X11R5. Or you might want to try xxgdb-1.06.tar.Z, which includes not only
xxgdb but also the latest release of xdbx.

Anyway, here's the patch for the X11R4 xdbx:

*** /tmp/RCSAa22812	Thu Nov  5 08:49:38 1992
--- defs.h	Fri Nov 15 13:20:00 1991
***************
*** 59,69 ****
--- 59,71 ----
  #include <X11/Xaw/Label.h>
  #include <X11/cursorfont.h>
  
+ #if (XtSpecificationRelease < 5)
  /* incompatibility of header file with X11R4 documentation */
  #define XawChainTop	XtChainTop
  #define XawChainBottom	XtChainBottom
  #define XawChainLeft	XtChainLeft
  #define XawChainRight	XtChainRight
+ #endif
  
  #ifndef AssignMax
  #define AssignMax(x, y) 	if ((y) > (x)) x = (y)

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From: oet@maz.sma.ch (Thomas Oettli)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Looking for an Interactive User Interface Builder (fwd)
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:46:27 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9211130522.AA02148@maz3>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:23:01 +0100 (MET)
Content-Type: text
Content-Length: 2656      

> 
> UIM/X by Visual Edge Software Ltd
>       UNIXWORLD's 1990 product of the year.
>       Now in ver 2.0
> 
> See UNIXWORLD May 1992, pg77.
> 
> Also marketed as IBM's AIC (AixWindows Interface Composer) and
> I think,
> HP's Interface Architect.
> 
> available on several platforms, see article in UNIXWORLD
> 

 Have also a look at IDL. It is primarly a visualization tool for
 scientific data but there are also powerful widgets included. You
 can ftp IDL from the following sites:


                    Host:       gateway.rsinc.com (192.5.156.17)
                    Location:   Boulder, Colorado
                    Account:    ftp
                    Password:   <userid>@<localhost>
                    Directory:  pub/idl

                This system is connected to the internet via a 56KB link,
                so transfers will take longer.

            -------------------------------
            University of Colorado, Boulder
            -------------------------------
                    Host:       boulder.colorado.edu (128.138.240.1)
                    Location:   University of Colorado, Boulder Colorado
                    Account:    ftp
                    Password:   <userid>@<localhost>
                    Directory:  pub/idl

                The University of Colorado generously makes IDL
                available via their high speed internet connection.
                Please thank them by not loading it down too hard during
                working hours (8:00 AM - 5:00 PM Mountain Time).

            -------------------------------
            University of Dortmund, Germany
            -------------------------------
                    Host:    lumpi.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (129.217.36.140)
                    Location:   University of Dortmund, Dortmund Germany
                    Account:    ftp
                    Password:   <userid>@<localhost>
                    Directory:  pub/idl

                European sites can obtain the distribution from this
                site. This system is also a file server for its owners,
                so the number of parallel users is restricted in order
                to maintain acceptable performance. If you are unable to
                access it due to this restriction, wait until a less busy
                time and try again.

            

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From: ROSSJI@js-jtf.af.mil ("Jim Ross")
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: RE: xsetroot for VMS/DecWindows
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:53:03 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9211060318.AA02441@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:10:00 EST

#
#I look for program equivalent to xsetroot on X/Unix machine but for VMS runnin g 
#DecWindows. this program must be able to load standard bitmap files .
...
#Does anybody know where I could transfer such program from?
#
>Get XV from Public.TGV.COM under [.mahan].  It will allow you to set the
>root background using any image format (xbm, gif, jpeg, tiff, pbm, etc).
True, but if all you want is xsetroot it's available in the xutilities
directory on DecwMotif V1.1, as are many "standard" clients.

Jim Ross
From: khuhner@eng.auburn.edu (Kurt E. Huhner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Pixmap "Zooming"
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:41:42 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

Date: 5 Nov 92 16:51:21 GMT
Message-Id: <khuhner.921105105121@willow.cse.eng.auburn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am trying to Zoom in on a Pixmap.  The zooming functionality is working fine
but takes an inordinate anmount of time.  We are letting the user mark an
area and then enlarging that area and placing the result into a larger
window.  This takes a long time to do and I am wondering if anybody
has ideas as to how to speed up the process.

We are using R4/Motif on HP9000.  The main window is a DrawingArea.
XCopyPlane is used.

Please E-Mail to 

   khuhner@eng.auburn.edu

any suggestions or comments!!!
From: ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Unsubscribe
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:50:15 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 07:54:59 CST
Message-Id: <9211091354.AA13548@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu>


Please remove this account from the xpert mailing list:

ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu

Thanks
From: peter@xvt.com (Peter Hallett)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Looking for an Interactive User Interface Builder
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:11:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: XVT Software Inc.

Date: 5 Nov 92 16:30:26 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Nov5.163026.19624@xvt.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

In article <1da4otINN4b2@armory.centerline.com> matt@centerline.com (Matt Landau) writes:
>I believe that HP's User Interface Architect is basically HP's relabeling 
>of the widely used UIMX product.  A couple of other hardware vendors have
>also licensed UIMX and either bundle it with their machines or sell it as
>an add-on product under their own names.

Not only do hardware vendors resell UIM/X for their individual boxes, but
a software vendor, Precision Visuals, resells UIM/X versions for all
the different platforms supported - one stop shopping.  This is handy if
you want to build interfaces on lots of different UNIX-based, X-based,
Motif-based environments.  Of course, if you want to build really
portable applications (multi-platform, multi-GUI, Motif and beyond)
check out XVT.

Peter Hallett
XVT Software
303/443-4223
peter@xvt.com
From: baumann@igd.fhg.de (Peter Baumann)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: FLAME, FLAME ON X!!!
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:50:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Haus der Graphischen Datenverarbeitung, Darmstadt

Date: 6 Nov 92 12:44:14 GMT
Message-Id: <1683@igd.fhg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

This is a sad story told by a frustrated user of some quite common
one-letter software. 

Once upon a time, the Vice President of quite a big company was
announced to visit the database group of some institute, and so the
department head decided that the visitor was to be given *the* final audio-image-animation multimedia database demo. So, a lot of preparations
were done to have all neatly arranged. Short before the Big Date, final
checks were done again and again to ensure that all worked fine (and
to calm down the anxious spirits of the programmers).

The Big Date arrived, and indeed all worked fine - at first. But,
when the images and the animation were to be loaded from the
database --- nothing happened. More and more desperate re-tries
failed each. At the end, the Vice President left the room, leaving
behind some miserable creature worrying about its bad fate which
had destroyed its career out of nowhere.

Short after that, a colleague of the bad-luck guy occasionally
remarked, "Did you know that the X windows server never releases
memory space once acquired for image display? Each new image loaded
makes the X server address space grow until there's no more available."
And added, "This is a well-known bug of X". Well-known. Well...

Beyond this point, rumors differ. Some say the guy jumped out of
the 3rd floor window, and others say that a life insurance contract
for MIT X group members has become more expensive than for Salmon
Rushdie...

This story comes from a deeply fustrated, X-rated :-( programmer
who is an occasional (hence, non-expert) X user

PS:
Have you ever had something named X in your home directory when
starting xinit? (I figure that each of us has "." at the beginning
of the PATH variable...) - Nice effect.
From: toepfer@du9ds4.uni-duisburg.de (Hansjoerg Toepfer)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: MS-DOS X-windows? Where?
Date: 7 Nov 92 10:27:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Universitaet Duisburg GH

Date: 7 Nov 92 05:42:22 GMT
Message-Id: <toepfer.721114942@du9ds4>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I think a free X-Server for DOS is of GREAT interest.
There is a commercial product available called XAppeal which seems to be
written in DOS-gcc. You can get the demo version from some internet sites
( garbo.uwasa.fi). The demo looks pretty good and is running well and stable.
I think you should get this demo to get an impression.

Bye,
Hanjo
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