From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: The Amiga 1200 Specs - From CBM
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:19:04 GMT

clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:

>In article <1992Nov6.204037.4507@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dmacphee@nyx.cs.du.edu (Don mac phee) writes:
>>
>> Speculation. It costs nothing but a bit of wait-and-see.
>>
>>The 2200, from what rumor and speculation has built, is a 2000 replacement
>>built on an 020, AGA, and a backplane. This design MAY utilize the A4000
>>casing and motherboard (Making it an A4000/020)
>>
>>The A4000/030 is almost a reality. Those that are getting A4000/040's 
>>have reported seeing a checkbox for the 030 option. Again, all of this
>>SPECULATION is to be taken with a pound of salt. (For flavor.)
>>
>> Weigh these things when reading these posts and making decisions:
>>
>> 3) GVP 530 *is* shipping now...
>> 4) C= is shipping the A4000/040, A1200, A600, A2000, A2500, A3000.
>> 5) The A3000 is priced NICE ($1500 US)...

>  I saw that!  I'm tempted but my husband isn't.  He keeps going on
>  about the 25 MHz versus the GVP's 40MHz.   Isn't there a technicality
>  about 16-bit versus 32-bit RAM?  The A3000 also has 2 Mg Chip RAM,
>  am I correct?  Does it have a 32-bit bus from the CPU to the Chip RAM?
>  If so, then the A500, only having 16-bit bus running at 40MHz would
>  only be 5 times faster than the A500 running at 7, instead of 10
>  like the GVP ad claims.  They're probably only talking about stuff
>  coming from the 32-bit RAM to the 68E30.

>  Now he's talking about getting a $630 Hi-Q tower to make the A500
>  into an A2000 so he can expand.  His premise is "I don't want to
>  buy a new computer."  I figure adding the $630 + the GVP $1100
>  would just about get me an A3000 with a larger HD than the default.
>  If I don't need a new monitor for the A3000, i.e. I can still use
>  the 1084S (for now), then I'll probably win the argument IF I
>  can show that the A3000 will run as fast as the GVP 530 from chip
>  ram (does the A3000 have a math coprocessor 68882 installed?).
>  Then I mentioned that my son might "claim" our computer (the A500)
>  so why not get the A3000, and he said, get this, we'll buy him
>  an A600.  (At that time, the monitor issue will be moot, since
>  we'll have to buy another monitor anyway and the 1960 monitor is
>  only $100 more than the 1084S).  So which is it, guys?

>  An A500 (1/2 Meg chip, 1 Meg Agnus not enabled) + GVP 530 +
>   (optionally) HiQ Tower (to eventually get the PhonePak, ibm, etc)
>   +A600 + 2 1084S monitors

Make that a different accelerater for a2000's cost about $1000, 
hiQ $600, a600 $400, 1084 $300.  Total $2300.
>   or

>   An A3000 25MHz (at the low price of $1500) + 1960 monitor (not needed right
>   away) and eventually give our 2 year old the A500 and 1084S monitor.
>  (keeping the A500 game compatible, and using the A3000 for serious
>  stuff).

A3000 at 25mhz for $1400 [ Creative Computers mail order ] + $400 1960
Total $2000, but plus you get very fast graphics.

Well I have seen a 16mhz a3000 for $1200 and the 25mhz a3000 for $1400.  So I 
can't at all see upgrading you a500 more.  The graphics speed is much much 
faster on an a3000 than the best accelerated a500.  And since that is using
less cpu you should get better real life performance, decides fealing nicer.
And don't forget if you get the gvp's a530, you won't be able to connect it
to your hi-q, you need a2000 peripherals then.  So get yourself an a3000 and
give your a500 to your son.

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