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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 92 08:17:28 EDT
From:         Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@UGA>
Subject:      Re: Class action lawsuit payoff
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Once again, I am just quoting the newspaper article. No special clairvoyant
qualities are assumed on my part. The article stated that for the lower
two categories (where you didn't fly much, and didn't pay all that
much) NO proof in the form of ticket stubs, etc was necessary. A friend
who has already gotten the forms (there are 3, one for each level) said
this was the case. For the third level (which probably applies more to
corporate travelers--this is where the Big Guys will cash in), they
DO have to provide proof. They make you sign the form under threat of
perjury in case someone wants to get creative about just how many
trips they actually took.

All caveats apply. Hey, it's only a 19 stamp to get the true facts.
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sorry
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:50:39 EDT
From:         William Kemp <wkemp@S850.MWC.EDU>
Subject:      re: parking in D. C.
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Rafel Konopka asks about long-term parking in D. C.

A couple of solutions are available:

Many large buildings in downtown (not the government buildings though)
have parking garages in their basements. The rates are a bit steep (in
spite of an on-going price war), but you can leave your car all day
for no more than $10, and you should be able to find a place for less
than that.

Outlying Metro stations (Metro is the D. C. subway system) have parking.
Try the Huntingdon station (Alexandria, Va.); National Airport; and
the Pentagon City shopping Center. The easiest to find if you don't know
the area are National Airport and the shopping center.

Bill Kemp
Fredericksburg, Va.
wkemp@s850.mwc.edu

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Subject:      RE: Parking in DC
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Best, yet.  With a Metro stop right on the mall, there's absolutely no reason
to go through the hassle and expense of parking on or near the mall.  Leave
your car wherever you're staying and leave the driving to one of the better
subway systems.
                                Howard
From: CURVELO@BRUFSE (Evandro Curvelo)
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Subject: Rhode Islanders... write me, please...
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Hi networkers !

My name is Evandro and I am learning English. I would like to contact
friends in Rhode Island/USA, specially Providence and Kingston, because
next October I will spend almost three weeks there.

If you live in Rhode Island, please write me. I think will be a nice
opportunity to improve my English.

Thank you in advance.
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Evandro Curvelo Hora
Universidade Federal de Sergipe
Depto de Estatistica e Informatica
Aracaju 49000 Sergipe   Brazil
Bitnet : EVANDRO@BRUFSE
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 92 10:16:03 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX
Subject:      RE: Parking in DC
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Sorry, Jim.  The Smithsonian did away with parking except for evening
Resident Assoc. performances.  Don't rush out to join Smithsonian if you
expect parking perks.  I still think Metro is the way to go.
                                Howard
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:19:31 CDT
From:         Doug Bank <dougb@COMM.MOT.COM>
Subject:      Re: Class action lawsuit payoff
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              from"THOMPSON%UCRVMS.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU" at Aug 12,
              92 10:58 am

> Lucy Rowland gives details for seeking refunds from the nine airlines.
> I don't know this, but I'm willing to bet $5 -- any takers? -- that
> at SOME point in the process, you're going to have to prove that
> you took the flight you say you took.  If you have all your old
> years-old ticket receipts and flight stubs, you're in luck.
> Personally, I can't seem to find mine.
>
> Jim Thompson

Yes and No.  If you just took one flight, or took multiple flights
totally less than $2500, then you don't have to document the flights
with receipts, etc. (though you may need to prove you took the flight -
Freq Flier statements are OK for this)  You DO have to have documentation
if you plan to declare over $2500 in flights.

So far, I have found over $8000 worth of receipts.  Luckily, saving
all that paper has finally paid off!

--
Doug Bank                       Private Systems Division
dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com          Motorola Communications Sector
dougb@nwu.edu                   Schaumburg, Illinois
dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu       708-576-8207
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From: zmueller@utkvx1.utk.edu (Wilhelm Mueller)
Subject: Re:      Davos, Switzerland
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:32:00 GMT

In article <TRAVEL-L%92081722592953@TREARN>,         Avner Haran <CFAVNER@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL> writes...
>1) Is the railway  station in Zurich close to the  international airport ?

The main railway station (Hauptbahnhof) for Zurich is in the middle of
downtown.  There is a railway station in the airport however.  It has been a
while since I have been there, but I am sure there will be lots of signs and
opportunities to ask someone if they get lost.

>2) What train  goes from Zurich to  Davos ?

I don't know the answer to this question, however in every train station there
is an information booth (look for a big blue "i") where they can ask for this
information.  They all speak English and are in general very friendly.

>3) Any recommendations for trips around Davos  ?

I don't have my Switzerland map with me, and I have never heard of Davos, so I
am not exactly sure where it is.  One day trip I can recommend though is to
Lucern, which is less then an hour train ride South of Zurich.  It is somewhat
touristy, but a really neat place to see.  Its been a long time since I have
been there so I can't remember any details, but it is a "don't miss it if you
are in the area" kind of place.

>4) What kind of train ticket is best  to purchase ? (I heard that there are a
>few kinds with  different discounts ).

If they are planning to do alot of train travel while they are there, there may
be passes available that allow you to ride the trains an unlimited amount for
a few weeks, or other such deals.  I suggest that they inquire at the
information office again.

>5) Any particular advice ?

Switzerland is a ideal place to visit, if you don't want to be on with a tour. 
The prices are very expensive, however, public transportation is such that you
can get just about anywhere you want, trains run on time, people are generally
friendly, scenery is beautiful, and almost everyone speaks at least a 
smattering of English.  As with any place you visit, the Swiss are most
receptive to the tourist who is making a honest attempt to respect and learn
about their culture.  While I am part Swiss, I was born in America and speak
little German, but I found that relations with people I met increased
dramatically if I started the conversation with a Guten Tag (good day), or Wie
Geht es Ihnen (how are you), even if I never spoke another word of German.

>   Any answer will be appreciated.

>                                     Thanks in advance,
>                                                       Avner
> 
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Avner Haran                     Bitnet:   CFAVNER@WEIZMANN.BITNET
>Chemical Physics Dept.          Internet: CFAVNER@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL
>The Weizmann Inst. of Science
>Rehovot - ISRAEL
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Enjoy!

	---Wilhelm

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From: jaygee@tcs.com (Jeremy Giddings)
Subject: Help with hotels in Venice
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:06:38 GMT

I would like recommendations on moderately priced (US$75-100, double with
bath) hotels in Venice.  I would also appreciate any suggestions for
sights, neighborhoods, out-of-the-ordinary experiences.

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From:         MGARBER@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      RE: Manila
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call the State Department. They usually have information
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:40:15 CDT
From:         JHAFTEK3@UA1VM
Subject:      Re: get
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              13 Aug 92 17:43:21 TUR from <eluyten@RC.VUB.AC.BE>

Well, there is not much to say. I've learned that LISTSERV exists only
two months ago, because I wanted to subcribe to some list. Then I've
started to play. For example by sending 'help' command to the LISTSERV
and by following the clues from the conversations on the different lists.
The help desk at my university and postmaster were also helpfull.
If you belong to HOSPEX you have to learn about DATABASE and the owner
of this list will introduce you to the basic (I am very gratefull to him).
But all this takes a time and patience. I remeber I was shine to ask
what a hell such a sing means: :-) ? You won't beleive, but I found the
answer when I was reading the description of some bisexulal list
obtained from a LISTSERV. Try to look through 'NETMONTH' magazine
old issues it may help you also. Have a fun discovering network!

..................................................................
 Jaroslaw Haftek   University of Alabama  <JHAFTEK3@UA1VM.BITNET>
  Metall.Mater.Eng.Dpt. P.O.Box 870202 Tuscaloosa AL 35487 USA
..................................................................
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From:         MOOLEN@RCL.WAU.NL
Subject:      Eurodisney
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Eurodisney make-believe is so un-European, so "plastic", such a
massive unreality, a park full of wind for too much money that even
thinking of it is a waste of time.
Gerard van der Moolen
Wageningen / Netherlands
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From: parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Subject: Re: Parking in DC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:40:26 GMT

HKAPLAN@UDCVAX writes:

>Best, yet.  With a Metro stop right on the mall, there's absolutely no reason
>to go through the hassle and expense of parking on or near the mall.  Leave
>your car wherever you're staying and leave the driving to one of the better
>subway systems.
>                                Howard

	This is by far the best solution.  Driving/parking in the city is
just a hassle.  It's meant for walking and public transport.

	-m.

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From:         GODWIN@FRMNVAX1
Subject:      Re: Living in Florida
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There's really no change of seasons in FL; it's mostly summer year-round.
It gets a little cooler in Dec-Feb, maybe as low as the 50's for a few
days, but no real "winter" season.

Cocoa Beach/Melborne is a great area - the beaches are wonderful and it's
a great place to surf (for Fla., that is). It's a short drive to
DisneyWorld (Orlando) and St. Augustine, the Oldest City in the US. A
visit to Cape Canaveral (or is it Cape Kennedy - I always forget) is
really fascinating.

Rose Mary Godwin     Furman University     GODWIN@FRMNVAX1
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From:         "Mary K. Becker" <MKBECK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      UNIVERSAL STUDIOS-ORLANDO
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Acquisitions Assistant-Kornhauser Library
Phone: 588-5763
I have heard Sunday is the least crowded day at Disneyworld, Universal and
Epcot.  But that's just hearsay - anyone else?
Mary K.
MKBECK01@ULKYVM : BITNET
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 92 10:28:19 EDT
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Subject:      Re: get
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MGarber asks a very good : "Where did you learn this?"  Indeed, not
only where can one find these things out, but how does one even know what
questions to ask?  And can one avoid arcane, semi-programming commands and
dealing with FTP's (don't they deliver flowers?)?
                                Howard
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:22:06 TUR
From:         Eric Luyten <eluyten@RC.VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: Class Action Lawsuit Payoff
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              10,

Lucy Rowland writes :

> Our local paper had an article on Sunday, August 9, 1992 stating that
> "Several U.S. airlines have agreed to settle a huge class-action lawsuit
> with a $458 million payoff...to give consumers voucher certificates
> good for discounts on future trips."

It appeared in USENET newsgroup rec.travel.air too. Do foreigners qualify for
refunds, or do we simply get ripped off without getting compensated for it
later ? (:-).
I took a flight from Chicago to San Jose on American Airlines in October 1990.
And one from Los Angeles to Boston two weeks later.

Eric.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:11:49 EDT
From:         AP490005@BROWNVM
Subject:      Woodstock and Middlebury
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I am planning a three day weekend trip in Vermont.  I would like to

receive information on the Bed & Breakasts' places in Middlebury and

Woodstock.  Also, on hiking trails for both of these places.  I

have travelled extensivley in Maine and New Hampshire, but I am

sorry to say never in Vermont.

Adelina Axelrod  ap490005@browmvm
John Carter Brown Library
Brown University
Providence, R.I.
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From: ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner)
Subject: 2 Israeli Students Want 2 Meet/Stay 1-2 Days wi/US Families
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:17:15 GMT


I will begin hosting two Israeli teenagers for 3-4 months,
starting this October.  My guests are interested in seeing
the U.S.A. by way of a special AMTRAK or Greyhound pass,
and they want to stay with families-- ESPECIALLY people
who are environmental activists, or working on peace, social/
economic justice issues, towards racial harmony, etc.
They would also like to visit some American university
campuses.
 
Can anyone suggest ways for my friends to find hosts who
will take them in for 1-2 days per stop?  They want me to
make it very clear that they are both willing to earn their
keep, and they both speak good English.
 
Do you know of any networks of people interested in having
guests?  I can provide letters of reference from Americans.
One student was my guest last year, and is a lovely person.
Please e-mail any ideas.  Thanks!


PS:  What's HOSPEX?

-- 




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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 92 11:59:09 PDT
From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM>
Subject:      Four Corners School
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Has anyone ever heard of the Four Corners School for Outdoor Education?
I am considering taking a trip with them and am curious about experiences.

Many thanks.

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 92 11:43:17 EDT
From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX
Subject:      Re: TOKYO
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for cheeap travel to Tokyo from LA consider a courier flight
if you can carry on all your baggage ... if not, consolidators
have incredibly cheap flights, check the NY Times travel section.
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 92 09:21:15 EDT
From:         William Crossgrove <WMCROSS@BROWNVM>
Subject:      Re: France:Disney woes
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To follow up on the comments about Eurodisney:

I was visiting a French family earlier this year and their teenage daughter
had been to Eurodisney.  She came back claiming that hardly any of the
people working in the public areas of the park could speak French.  They
appeared to her to be American college students.  Now this may simply
reflect some kind of French cultural prejudice, and I do not offer it as
a factual evaluation.  It seems, however, to be a widely-held view in
France:  Eurodisney is so Americanized that even the employees have largely
been imported.  And the thought of a park just outside of Paris where the
people do not speak French does not much encourage local people to attend.
Again, this may reflect cultural bias more than fact, but it was a striking
perception to me.

Bill Crossgrove
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Subject:      Re: TOKYO
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*** Reply to note of 08/20/92 11:56

Can you tell me where I could get a lists of consolidators?
Thanks in advance.
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Subject:      RE: tokyo and consolidators
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I hope you don't go entirely private. This is intersting stuff, and useful to
 others.
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 92 14:42:07 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX
Subject:      Dublin
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An Irish friend of mine who travels regularly to Dublin and had been going
via Aer Lingus aid that his last flight was relatively inexpensive (I have no
figures) and very comfortable.  The airline was, to my surprise, Aeroflot.
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From:         "Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian" <MFRY@BROOK>
Subject:      Trip to Maine
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My boyfriend and I will be going to Maine the week of Labor Day.  We are
flying into Portland, renting a car, and then driving up the coast to
Acadia/Bar Harbor.  Does anyone on the list have any advice about the
following.

Quaint towns along the way.
Good (but inexpensive) family restaurants.
What to see and do in Acadia.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Mary Fry
The Brookings Institution
MFRY@BROOK. BITNET
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From:         MAUREEN BENNETT <BENNETMM@SNYCENVM>
Subject:      Re: An Idea For Travel Postings
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    My most memorable trip was taken seven years ago with a co-worker.  We
We spent ten days in Great Britian with a rental car and guide to the
areas castles great and small.  We stayed at bed and breakfasts, which
we found the day we arrived in town.  The castles were great!  Some were
mere ruins accessed through sheep pastures, others were beautifully
adorned complete with wax figures in period costumes.  Food was hit or
miss at pubs and small resturants.  Although we were not on a real tight
budget, we were not the extravagant type.    The best part of the trip
was the three days spent in rural Scotland with a pen pal that I had
corresponded with since I was 13 years old.  The pace of life there was
refreshingly slow and laid-back, and I grew up on a dairy farm in
upstate New York!  Some day when my children are old enough to
appreciate travel I will return for a longer stay.
   My least enjoyable
trip was one to Florence Alabama in the summer.  I was on business
travelling alone and received an obscene phone call in my hotel room
which, even though it was a Holiday Inn, had no security staff.
  My dream vacation would be 2 months in Europe with a personal guide.

Maureen Bennett
State University of New York
Central Administration
Albany, NY
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From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM>
Subject:      Re: Class Action Lawsuit Payoff
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              12 Aug 92 15:22:06 TUR from <eluyten@RC.VUB.AC.BE>

As I recall, the vouchers you get are nearly worthless.  They apply to
at most 10% of the fare, so if you get a $100 voucher, you have to buy
a $1000 ticket (or more), something I have never done in my life, with
probably 300K miles under my belt.  So don't get too excited.   But apply
if you buy a lot of full-price tickets.   Dave
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Anyone qualifies who made the trips in the U.S.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 09:33:41 EDT
From:         Ann P Barry <APB@BROWNVM>
Subject:      Public fax machines in Germany?
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Is it easy to find a public fax machine in the bigger cities in Germany,
specifically but not exclusively Berlin?   If so, is it very expensive
to fax the US?

(Even in my small home town in Connecticut, there are several, located in
a drugstore, stationer's, gas station...I would expect Germany to be more
advanced than we are in this regard.)

This actually is travel-related; my husband would like to be able to fax
me whether he is staying an extra day in Berlin and will meet me in the
Hague, or is coming to Amsterdam and meeting me at Schiphol!

Thanks in advance--

Ann P. Barry      John Carter Brown Library      Brown University
apb@brownvm (Bitnet)             apb@brownvm.brown.edu (Internet)
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