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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:18:12 EST
From:         "Joseph T. Malloy" <jmalloy@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Useful Shareware
              at Dec 23, 92 8:53 pm

> I am a Mac User new to Windows. I am unfamiliar with the useful utilities that
> are available as shareware for PCs running windows. If there are any
 utilities,
> apps, or 'productivity tools' that you find indespensible I would like to hear
> about them. Also, any utilities that spiff up the interface would be welcome.
> Pls. send your comments to me directly at: "miller@pluto.ee.cua.edu" and i can
> summarize for the list if their is any interest.
>
> If I can be of help to anyone just starting to use a Mac pls. let me know.
 BTW,
> the purpose of this msg. is not to start any flame wars between the mac and
>  pcss.
>
> thanks in advance
> max miller
>
A Mac user, eh?  How dare you post a question here!!

(Um, really, just kidding; I've got my knee back into its normal
position now!).

Actually, I'm writing not only to make a lame joke and wish you all the
best but to suggest that the first thing you might want to consider
changing about how you use Windows is to find one or more of the many
different replacements out there for the Windows Program Manager and/or
File Manager.  While those are adequate for starting programs and
managing files if you don't do much of either, they're, well, not really
that good.  I used a shareware utility called Launch for a while (a
click of the right mouse button would bring up a list of apps you'd
either defined or had allowed the install program to enter and then you
just point at the one you want and off you go!) until I decided on
Norton Desktop for Windows, which in many ways comes a bit close to the
Mac interface and is perhaps even more like the OS/2 2.0 Workplace Shell
(Norton at least gives you configuration choices that OS/2 denies you!)
interface.

I'd say experiment!  FTP'ing to CICA (a well known site for Windows
stuff: ftp.cica.indiana.edu, take a look in the /pub/pc/win3 directory)
will net you (sorry for the pun!) at least a dozen alternatives you can
try out...

I'm quite happy with Windows (have tried OS/2 2.0 and a Mac Plus for a
while), but I'd welcome your comments about differences between the
Windows and Mac platforms that might shed some light on what I'm
missing (maybe I *want* to miss it, but still...!)

Welcome and Merry Holiday!

Joe
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:24:56 PST
From:         "Vance M. Gloster" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Music Notation Software
              30 Dec 1992 23:29:30 -0500
              <9212310507.AB28124@fourier.inference.com>

I have a program called SongWright which is inexpensive, but pretty
good.  The version I have runs under DOS only, but you can enter music
from the computer keyboard (it is very fast), a MIDI keyboard, or a
MIDI file.  The output on a laser printer looks less jagged than the
output of Coda (which looks a little grainy to me).  It has its minor
annoyances, but is adequate for most small projects.  I got it from a
discounter for between $50 and $100.

-Vance Gloster
 gloster@inference.com
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 22:55:17 -0500
From:         JDBER@CONNCOLL.BITNET
Subject:      Pro Audio 16

Can anyone help me find a MIDI box to attach to the
port on my Pro Audio Spectrum 16? I though that it came with the money I paid,
but apparently not, and the manual doesn't tell me how to get one.
thanks again..

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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:03:34 -0500
From:         JDBER@CONNCOLL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Progman/Fileman replacement?

>Is there a Program/File Manager replacement that more closely combines the two?
>[Please no flames to this, but...] I really DO like the Mac style of Programs
>and files can be shown at the same time AND can be moved on the screen where
>ever you wish to place them. Any ideas?

>There are a number out there, but the most popular seems to be
>Norton Desktop for Windows, which combines the two quite elegantly.

I've used NDW, and it seems that it is a Program Manager Replacement, and a
File Manager Replacement, but not a Progman/Fileman Put together into one
product. Am I wrong? Again, is there a program that will combine the 2?


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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:00:19 EST
From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Cardnal 16bit

I just purchased a Cardnal 16 bit video card, and in DOS, my screen
is not stable. I have installed VMODE, which did not help. In windows
it's stable. Any suggestions? I also moved my cards around, which did
not help.



Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Subject: running a dos app. in a window
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:58:34 GMT
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good day for every one.
i want to know how to run a dos application inside a window.
thanks
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Subject: latest version of pc+4win is 1.01
From: nbull@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 29 Dec 92 12:06:03 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
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LET'S STOP THE RUMOR MILL ABOUT PROCOMM+ 2.0 FOR WINDOWS.


I just talked to Data Storm in Columbia Mo. and straight from the horses
mouth UTHE LATEST VERSION IS 1.01. There is no such thing right now as 2.0.
A magazine has incorrectly printed information of a NONEXSISTANT VERSION 2.0.


Eric Dowdy
University of Missouri

P.S. As previously stated the maint. patch is available at wuarchive.wustl.edu
and the file name is MAINT1.EXE. I think the directory is mirrors2/win3/utils
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:35:20 EST
From:         Jeffrey R Kell <JEFF@UTCVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: QvtNet 2.6
              28 Dec 1992 12:21:19 GMT from <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>

Has anyone been able to get QVT/Net to work with Walker Richer & Quinn's
Reflection/Network Series?  How about even to run on WRQ's TCP stack?
I've tried all variants of DIS_PKT, etc., and at best I get duplicate IP
addresses reported by QVT/Net (presumably from the top of the WRQ stack).

/Jeff/   jeff@utcvm.utc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:07:00 PST
From:         DAJ@ABS.NLC-BNC.CA
Subject:      PCPlus/Win

I've been using Procomm Plus for Windows for a while, but only to download. I
connect to a number of commercial services like CServe & GEnie, and also to a
fair number of local BBSs. Never had a problem (that I cvouldn't trace to a
faulty modem setup), using ZModem or Y-Modem.

Since I, personally, find modem setup to as much black art as science, is it
possible that you also have the same problem, and that maybe you just need to
*fiddle* with your setup? On the other hand, maybe I'll have the same problem
uploading:  I must give it a try sometime....

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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 18:04:35 PST
From:         "Vance M. Gloster" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Pro Audio 16
              25 Dec 1992 22:55:17 -0500
              <9212260349.AA19599@fourier.inference.com>

  Can anyone help me find a MIDI box to attach to the
  port on my Pro Audio Spectrum 16? I though that it came with the money I paid,
  but apparently not, and the manual doesn't tell me how to get one.
  thanks again..

You need the MIDI Mate adaptor from MediaVision (the same people who
make the PAS-16).  It comes in two packages.  The first is just the
box (with 2 MIDI Outs, 1 MIDI In, 1 MIDI Thru, and a game port plug)
for about $60 discounted mailorder.  The second includes the box and
the TRAX sequencer program for about $120 discounted mailorder.

Everything about the MIDI connection is 100% compatible with
SoundBlaster, so you can use a SoundBlaster adaptor cable with the
PAS-16 or the MIDI Mate with the SoundBlaster.  The SoundBlaster one
only has one MIDI Out and no MIDI Thru and is more expensive, so the
MediaVision one is the one to get.

-Vance Gloster
 gloster@inference.com
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:43:27 EST
From:         Ron Gittleman <MRRON@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Music Notation Software
              30 Dec 1992 10:07:35 GMT from <law30129@NUSUNIX1.NUS.SG>

On Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:07:35 GMT GNANASIHAMANI KANNAN said:
>       Greetings to all in Internet Land.  Am a Windows 3.1 user
>       and would like info on any decent music notation package
>       ( commercial or shareware ).
I have been using MusicTime from Passport. It is a slightly diluted version
of Encore, their main offering in this area. I have seen Encore on sale for
under $400, MusicTime is much cheaper (I think I paid $150). Both are very
fine products. Two other major biggies: Music Printer Plus (Temporal Acuity)
and Finale (Coda) are very good. I believe Finale is regarded as the top-of-
the-top but there is a Finale-Lite offered by Coda, I can't remember what
it's called. Reviews I've seen preferred MusicTime to the Finale-Lite.

Music Printer Plus was not a windows product and it was more difficult to
learn. But it did a beautiful job. The vendor, Temporal Acuity, is very
reliable and straight-up, I've dealt with them on various occasions regarding
other products.

To reiterate, MusicTime is an excellent choice but you're limited to systems
of 6 staves maximum.

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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:19:11 -0500
From:         SJBUSH@LIFE.UAMS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Help! Bizarre System Error!

I just reread your message,  and I realize that you are no longer
running temp from drive H:.

Now that you are running on  drive c:  there is a possible new problem.

Now that you are trying to run from drive c: you may not have enough
contiguous space for your temp file. In fact you may have little to
none.  The best place to start, would be to optimize your hard drive
to make certain that you have as much contiguous space on your drive
as possible.  You might also clean house and take as many uneeded things
off of your hard drive as possible before optimization so that you
can squeeze every last bit of space into windows.

Sarah Bush
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SJBUSH@life.uams.edu
SJBUSH@life.bitnet

DIPLOMACY:  The art of saying "nice doggie" until you find a big stick.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:05:44 EST
From:         "Joseph T. Malloy" <jmalloy@HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PCPlus 4 Windows setup question
              at Dec 23, 92 9:24 am

>         Does anyone know how setup PCP for Windows to use a serial
> connection that goes straight to a terminal server.  No modem
> action here.  Thanks,
>
> David S McMeans
>
Hmm, I'm not at the appropriate machine right now, but I recall simply
selecting the correct serial port number in the setup/connection/port
dialog box...I connect via a ROLM Dataphone through our campus telephone
switch to our Unix server...works just peachy!

Merry!

Joe
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From: srawson@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Stephen Rawson)
Subject: Re:      Word 4 Windows Header/Footer --> Never-Never Land
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:31:51 GMT

In article <9212152147.AA19205@e7sa.epi.syr.ge.com> Steve Stern X-2783 <stern@E7SA.EPI.SYR.GE.COM> writes:
>Has anyone seen this problem?
>
>I am running word for windows 2.0 - windows 3.1 - dos 5.0...
>In word for windows, I have a document open with the header
>and footer filled in.  Out of the blue, the header and footer are deleted.
>This happened to me twice - I'm not sure about the first time, but
>I think both times it happened when I was saving the file.
>Naturally, the saved file loses the header/footer data.  Bummer!
>
I have also had problems with W4W 2.0 Win3.1, Dos 5.0 with file corruption
Pieces of the file delete themselves as I watch them on the screen.  The
last time this happened, I had just been working with the Header and
had attempted to save the file.  Got a GPF.  When I reopened the file, 
there were a bunch of garbage characters.  These characters moved around
on the screen without me doing anything.  I closed the file, quit windows
and looked at the file with Norton 5.0 DiskEditor.  It contained some 
directory fragments and the first part of the file had been moved to a
later sector (this part does not show up when viewed with WFW.)

This is the second time this has happened to me.  I don't know if it's
Word or something else about my setup.  I also don't know if it's just
totally ridiculous to have directory fragments mixed in with Word files
(though I haven't found them in older Word files) or to have pieces of
the document out of order.  

Anyone else had this sort of problem with Word for Windows?

Steve
srawson@beach.utmb.edu
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:01:25 PST
From:         Brian Elliott <RSPBEL@LLUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Progman/Fileman replacement?

Jason, you might consider trying HPs (Hewlett Packard's) New Wave.
Using NewWave as the windows shell presents you with files and folders
in Mac-like style. Dragging an icon representing a file to the trashcan
erases the file (sort of, its in the trash but you have to empty the
trashcan for it to be gone). 32 character file names are allowed and
in the new version (I think its 4.1) these file names can be made to
wrap. Files can be kept in "folders" that are little folder icons and
these can be kept in the "file cabinet." Usage of this product requires
a severe paradigm shift though. To provide this Mac-like functionallity
HP takes over the DOS file system and hides it from the user. A look under
the hood (a DOS dir) shows a maze of new directories and subdirectories
that are used by NewWave. I is VERY difficult to go manipulate files in
your old habitual way. Some people love this, others can't stand it.
     More on the interface:
     Under NewWave you don't 1) start a program and 2) load or create a
new file. The sequence is more like this: you 1) open the object (file)
by mouse-clicking on its representative icon or you 1) create a new object.
     Saddly, you can't know if you like this interface until you've tried
it. Personally, I was very impressed with it, but . . . I decided that I
was more comfortable with Norton Desktop. NewWave may be what you are looking
for however.
I hope that this helps.

Brian Elliott <RSPBEL@LLUVM.BITNET>
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:33:00 CST
From:         Richard Warwick <WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TSR's and Windows

DATE SENT:  31-DEC-1992 15:21:48
>OK, so I'm reading the messages about using the various memory
>manager (Not very carefully, mind you, I'm not having any problems.)
>and I keep noticing people pointing out '... if you want to load
>your TSR's high ...'  and I think to myself 'WHY?'  Hey, I'm using
>Windows, I don't NEED TSR's!  Am I missing something here?  Unless
>you are still mucking about with some archaic DOS programs, why
>the heck would anyone want a TSR?   ... or am I missing something.
>Louis

along with the tsr's some others have mentioned, a few of us live with
(and sometimes in spite of :-) ) a network.  Most network drivers -
including, if i'm not mistaken, Microsoft NDIS drivers) are TSR's and suck
up sizeable portions of RAM (60-130K).  If you take this RAM hit in
conventional memory, it's much harder to get real work done.  I know that
I, and I suspect most others using windows cannot accomplish their tasks
using _only_ windows software.  I know I have to use a dos window, and
many times a day exit windows and do something in dos, and vice versa.

Until budgets are unlimited, and software does exactly everything we want
it to, some compromises are unavoidable.

just my opinion,
Richard

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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 09:40:04 -0500
From:         Richard Reiner <rreiner@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      Re: Seek good monospace screen font

I wrote:

> I'm looking for a good, clear monospace screen font for use in the
> terminal window of Procomm/Win.  I run at 1024x768 resolution, and I
> find all the terminal fonts supplied with PC/W, and all those otherwise
> available on my system, to be either too small or too big (of course
> Courier New and other TT faces can be scaled as desired, but I don't
> have one that is very readable).  Any suggestions?

...and half an hour later I found an excellent but non-obvious solution.
In case others are interested, here it is.

     - Get woafon13.zip from cica's fonts directory, and install the
     fonts as directed.

     - This makes extra sizes of the Terminal font available in
     Procomm/Win's Setup.Terminal.Font dialog (as well as in DOS
     windows).  But there's a gotcha: the extra sizes you've just
     installed do *not* get listed in PC/W's size listbox (although they
     *do* get listed in DOS windows).  They're there, though, and PC/W
     uses them just fine if you type in the sizes.  I find 12 point to
     be ideal on my 1024x768 display: the characters are *easier* to
     read than the much larger characters the PCPlus SS font produces at
     12 points.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:19:24 CST
From:         Darrin Wait <WAITD@COLUMBIA.DSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 3.1 Smart (?) Drive...

=>My CheckIt! shows 792K/s transfer rate with the 3.1 smartdrv.exe and
=>16640K/s with the DOS 5.0 smartdrv.sys, both with 2048K DOS and 1024K
=>Windows extended memory. I am waiting to lay my hands on Norton's
=>SystemInfo in a few days but I doubt if the benchmark will change
=>drastically.
=>
=>Not that I always think that a new version should be more efficient
=>than the old but...
=>
=>Have we been had?
=>
=>        b_ferhat@trhun aka Ferhat Savci (BSc. Computer Science)
=>
=>Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't happen
=>at once.
=>

Try HYPERDISK.  I have used it for many versions and have found it to be
faster and just as reliable.
The only advantage of smartdrive is the smartdrive monitor for windows so
you can see how well it is working.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:36:57 EST
From:         Jim Cocks <JACOCK01@ULKYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Revised listserv

From:         abdulrhman al-kaff <CCA3603@SAKAAU03.BITNET>

>i hered some guys talking about  revised listserv does any one of you
>have any idea about it  i'm looking for information ?
>tank's

For a list of relevant files send the command INFO to the LISTSERV
nearest you.  From the BITNET SERVERS list this looks like CEARN,
but I may be mistaken.

Anyway, from your VM machine issue the command
TELL LISTSERV AT CEARN INFO

To retrieve the revised listserv documentation issue the command:
TELL LISTSERV AT CEARN GET LISTSERV MEMO

For those of you in other parts of the world send to a server nearer
you if you can.

  --Jim Cocks  Univ. of Louisville  <JACOCK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
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