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From: Frank.Fisher@f1.n3638.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Fisher)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Headsets?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:01:39 -0800

Rob: We don't use headsets in our fire apparatus, but we do use them in
our command (communications) vans.  These vans handle on scene
communications, and coordinate with the fire alarm office, on still and
box, or greater, fires.  We had to go to headsets to eliminate the echo
we were getting, the vans are built light an echo chamber inside, and
to
elminate confusion when all the radio consoles are in use.  We like the
results so much that we are now installing headsets on the cellular
telephones in the vans.  We chose David Clark at the recomendation from
our Motorola service rep.  They  are expensive, but durable.  We did
have a lot of trouble getting the intercom function to work.  And now
that it does work most people don't use it.

I hope this helps.  Let me know if I can give you any other
information.
- Frank


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From: Dale.Hammond@f11.n3620.z1.fidonet.org (Dale Hammond)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Wanted
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 22:16:29 -0800

In a msg on <Jan0222:16, Mike Mazz of 1:321/233 writes:

 MM> I'm looking for someone willing to sell a scanner at a fairly 
 MM> good price. I'm also looking for a 9,600 baud or faster modem.  
 MM> If you have one either leave me a message on this BBS, or call 
 MM> (413)-754-9773, and leave a message. Thank You  
 MM>  
 MM> -!- ProBoard v1.21 [Reg]
 MM>  ! Origin: Whistle Stop BBS {Berkshire County Fire Board} 
 MM> (1:321/233.0)
How much are you willing to pay for the scanner. A friend of mine has a
9600 bps modem for sale for 200.00. Please respond to

Dale Hammond, via this echo
or call (904)823-0947, in St.Augustine and leave mail.


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From: Marj.Mills@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Marj Mills)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Firenet
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:35:00 -0800

On 19 Dec 92  18:26:00, you thus wrote to Joe Nicholson:

RB> Joe,
RB> I think everything is working now.  I was wondering if you sent
RB> the addresses to the CSFA and CFMA.  TTYL.

Richard,
          CSFA
          3246 Ranos Circle
          Sacramento, CA 95827

We've been unable to get the CFMA address so far.  Joe's been flat
on his back a week with a "bug".

RB>  * Origin: MANNA (602) 985-9857 in Mesa, AZ (1:114/207)

Sure glad you located a system from the nodelist.
Nice to see you back on-line again.


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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Responder II Mini Lightbar
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:01:00 -0800
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/ /         Ohio Valley REACT Inc. #2601  Responder II lightbar.
//              Cincinnati, OH  USA
CB Channel 9 KHY-1303 ***** VHF-FM 151.625 WPBC-440.rom a dealer here in
 incinnati for $95.
Hamilton County Disaster and Emergency Services
American Red Cross --Standard First Aid
American Heart Association -- Basic Life Support Certified
List in Galls is $239.

BTW, this price is the same for everyone, everyday!

Michael P. Rolfes  OVR Unit #43, usr2879a@cbos.uc.edu
From: Warren.Chou@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Arson fire
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:21:11 -0800

-> Here at the University of North Texas (in the City/State, actually),
-> is illegal to pull a fire alarm unless an emergency exists.
-> Also, when I was at school in Auburn University, Alabama, when they
h
-> fire drills, you HAD to be outside.  The FD and PD check all of the
r
-> and bathrooms in a sweep (all floors at once from one ent to the
othe
-> with hall monitors).  If they find someone in the building during a
f
-> alarm, they get handcuffed, and taken down town.  I think at UNT,
you
-> suspended or something...  makes people get into the habit of
evacuat
a
I think that it is a general prank at a college campus to pull the fire
alarm every once in a while.  I mean, it is so easy to just pull the
alarm and then run into your room and no one would know the wiser.
Most people have the "It can't happen to me" attitude so they are
usually slow to exit their rooms.  In this case, however, is someone
ran through the halls and stairwells and doused them with gasoline, I
doubt that the fire alarms would have done any good.
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From: Mark.Withers@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Withers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: amber / green lights
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:19:00 -0800

Thanks for yor response!  Only thing I can say is the department,
Han-Le-Co, Hanover Twsp., Lehigh County, PA runs the Chief and TWO
assistants with red lights.  However, we have no rescue captain.
Department has ladder, pumper, tanker, and a bread truck (for rescue).
Take the bread truck as the affectionate name. Originally designed as
a squad truck, our company went rescue and now crams as much as
possible into the truck.  We also have an out of service pumper that
needs some pump work, and is for sale.  The ladder truck is also a
pumper!

Thanks again, and the best of holidays to everyone!
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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Scanner Freq's
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:20:00 -0800

Hi George:
Hey I got some great news for yah!! You wanted scanner Freq's of
Pittsfield
and ect...! Welp one of my users,said he will do up ,a Textfile. Of all
the numbers he has,and upload them in the morning. When I receive that
file,
I'll stick it in the Txtfile area.. Hows that for great News huh!

Later..

Paul...  
 
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From: Warren.Chou@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Scanner's and a legal que
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 03:20:00 -0800

-> Quick question:
-> Is it legal in NY to listen to portable phone (as in cordless, NOT
ce
-> conversations over a scanner??

Why not?  Its illegal to do most anything else in NY.
:)

That was just a joke.  I really don't know.
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From: Bruce.Phillips@f182.n132.z1.fidonet.org (Bruce Phillips)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: staffing
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 14:36:00 -0800

Thank you so much for the info... We will be giving this to the Mayor
this week.. Bruce 

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From: George.Vaisey@f330.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Junior FF
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 16:45:00 -0800

Ed,
        I'll see what I can do your ya.



                         George Vaisey

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From: Richard.Edwards@f108.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Edwards)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Ritron Patriot Handhe
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:10:51 -0800

BB> -=> Quoting Peter G Efroymson to All <=-

BB> PGE> at all, and are frankly weary of the sturdiness.  If any of
BB>There are multiple reasons why you should be wary of the sturdiness. 
If
BB>you are going to use these radios once in a while, ok, but if they
are
BB>going to be used as a public safety piece of equipment, you would be
BB>well to consider another unit.  IMHO

I can agree with this opinion. My department has just returned to
another radio because of the problems that were happening too many
times. They are good for a light duty application but most fire
operations are better supported by a better unit. In this case,I would
opt to pay a little more and get better service life from my equipment.
 * SLMR 2.0 * My reality check just bounced.

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From: Joe.Nicholson@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Nicholson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: West Virginia news
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:09:00 -0800

The Christmas Day fire in the business district of Matewan, W.VA gutted
four buildings and left eight families homeless.  The fire and
explosion
severely damaged about one quarter of the business district and
destroyed
the homes of families living over storefronts.

Then Saturday, four fires, apparently the work of an arsonist, erupted
in the already-damaged area.  State Fire Marshall Paul Ritchie
remarked,
"It appears all four were started by the same individual within minutes
of each other."  One was set at this historic mining town's fire
station,
and other were at a bank, a tavern, and a parked truck.

Police Sunday arrested a long-haul truck driver as a suspect in the
four
Saturday fires.



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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services,connect.audit
From: alon@ibmpcug.co.uk (Alon Risdon)
Subject: Law and Order Magazine
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:30:08 GMT

I am looking for a magazine called "Law & Order" that is printed in
the USA. Can anyone help with an address or telephone number?
Thank you
alon@ibmpcug.co.uk
From: Stephen.Stone@f34.n289.z1.fidonet.org (Stephen Stone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: PHOOGRAPERS ON SCENE.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:03:35 -0800

 >    Are you teaching at Winter Fire School in Columbia?  If so I will

 > be there may be we can get together over coffee.

Teaching Chemistry and Behavior, and would love to meet you over coffee.
 Ever been to Columbia before?  If not, I'll give you the "nickel"
guided tour should you have time and desire.

Topic for discussion:  Are we causing injuries because our "protective
envelope" is TOO good?

Another topic:  Should the N.F.A. develop and promote a national set of
standards for positions within the Fire Service?  Should each State then
recognize those standards?

See you in February.  Stonie

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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Got ONE!!
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 14:39:00 -0800

GV> Paul,
GV>         I just got a Rocheser Police patch from my uncle when he
stopped
GV> by on christmas night.  i will send it out monday morning to you. 
Thanks
GV> again.  How was christmas up in your end?? Mine was wounderful (new
486
GV> 105meg HD + Options).  Write me back if there is a problem or call
me
GV> (716) 227-4650.
GV>
GV>
Hi George:
Hey thanks for getting me a, Rocheser Police patch for me.. I'm still
trying to get those's Scanner FREQ's for you to..
"My eyes will be glued to the mailbox!!" (grin) Thanks Again!

                             Paul...  
 
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 01:55:40 MST
From:         "TROY-ALLEN A. CARRILLO" <carrillo_t@MERLIN.NMHU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Scanner's and a Legal que

I spoke with someone from the FCC, they state that "It is illegal to listen in
on private telephone conversations without the persons involved knowing about
the person listening, unless a court order is issued for a legal wire-tap.
A person can scan any "open, public access frequency"."

Some pager frequencies are "open" but not all of them are.... Such as most of
your federal police agencies.  Most agencies that do not want pesons to listen
in on their conversations have gone to the expense of putting descramblers on
their systems.





******************************************************************************
Troy-Allen A. Carrillo                Carrillo_T@NMHU.BITNET.EDU.
******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Re: Scanner's and a Legal que
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 07:56:34 GMT

I'm pretty sure the ECPA includes all mobile (ie: not home cordless)
telephones, including the 450MHz stuff, other 800MHz trunked (ie: non
cellular) and the old 152MHz stuff.  I'm also fairly sure that it
prohibits listening to pagers.  I don't have the text of the law, but
it is pretty intrustive.  I'm not quite sure why they don't want you
to listen to studio-transmitter links, as they are the same thing as
what goes over the air, but yes folks, it is in the law.

-ks

--
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From: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Headsets?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 17:19:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: antizen.ebay.sun.com

In article AA27318@remote.halcyon.com, Brian.Matlock@p2.f54.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Matlock) writes:
> On Sat, Dec 19, Rob Farmer wrote: 
> 
>  RF>     Does anyone have any information about the use of headset
> useage in
>  RF> their fire apparatus?  Not the shooting type, but those similar to
>  RF> aviation (David Clark, Telex, etc..) type, with intercom throughout
> all
>  RF> firefighters, and radio transmission from the officer's seat and
> pump
>  RF> panel.
> 
> We've been using them in both of our engines for several months now.  
> 
> On the one hand, it is much easier to communicate in the engine while 
> responding code-3, it allows both hands to be free to look in the map
> book, 
> etc.
> 
> On the bad side, there are more moving parts and we have had some
> problem 
> with the headset not trasmitting, it also reduces the "audio feel" of
> the 
> engine, it (of course) reduces all outside noise even traffic sounds.
> 
> All in all, I like them.  It is much easier to talk among the crew.
> 
> Brian
> FF/EMT 2
>   
> 
>  * Origin: Beavercreek Fire Dept, Beavercreek, Oregon (1:105/54.2)
> 


Brian,

What brand do you use? What is the basic range?

Greg
From: Lazlo.Toth@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Lazlo Toth)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: America's funniest vid
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:08:11 -0800

  Quoting a message from WILLIAM MOORE to BOB UPSON

 BU>Who owned the camera and was the cameraman on premises legally?

 Can't answer that question... There was only one person (of the eight
 who produced the video) who was NOT a member of NAVAC.  Perhaps it was
 his/hers...

 BU>If the camera didn't belong to the company and the cameraman was
there
 BU>legally, the company has no claim on the winnings.  They may not be
 BU>pleased with the members for not turning over the money, but the
company
 BU>has no 'right' to it, IMHO.

 Ah... but the ambulance they used (with full lights in a residential
 neighborhood), the hypo and other EMS equipment was the property of
 NAVAC... Remember also that one of the 8 was the Vice President of the
 company...  The camera was simply the recorder... the props which gave
 the video authenticity belong to NAVAC.

WM| Regardless of who owned the camera or their right to be on the
property
  | they were still using very expenesive resources that were not their
own.
  | I imagine that NAVAC would be held responsible for any MVA during
the
  | period they were using it and any consequential damage may have
removed
  | valuable resources from the public usage. In my humble opinion, at
the
  | very least all participants should have been censured for misuse of
  | NAVAC property. The first message in this thread also mention that
no
  | member should profit as a result of belonging to NAVAC and isn't
that
  | what they did?

 As a point of clarification, one of the members wrote a letter to the
 editor shortly after the article appeared... He indicated that the rig
 was "out of service" prior to their use.  Also the NAVAC constitution,
 he said, does not prohibit members from making money from their
 association with NAVAC but rather enjoins them from personal gains in
 the =performance= of their duties.  Since the video was not their
duty,
 per se, they were (are) not prohibited from accepting the prize money.

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From: Doug.Plaza@f413.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Plaza)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Electronic ems toys
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 22:31:00 -0800

MB>   Our fire/EMS company is looking at moving into the 20th century
and
MB>buy an electronic EMS toy.  The push is on to obtain a PulseOx unit,
but
MB>my belief is we could far better using a combined unit of electronic
MB>BP cuff & PulseOx.  I welcome your input on the following questions;

MB>1) What units are you using?
MB>2) What functions get used the most?
MB>3) What problems have you had?
MB>4) Are their any problems with calibration/repair of the unit?
MB>5) What would you have gotten if you knew what you know now?

Merle,
     I am a fulltime paramedic in Ocean county NJ.  Our department
looked at pulse ox units a couple of years ago.  I have also looked
at some of the automatic BP units.  The BP units I have seen do not
provide accurate readings in a moving vehicle.  After trying the
pulse ox units for a period of time, the only real advantage I saw
(my opinion shared by others within my department) was in the
confirmation of the status of patients that appeared to be
hyperventilating.  What it basiclly came down to is, do you treat
the patient or the equipment.  Although it would be nice to have,
the expense really didn't seem to be justified.  I would be interested
in hearing how you make out with any of these units; maybe your results
would justify a re-evaluation of the equipment.  BTW the companies we
contacted loaned us demo units for an evaluation.  Good luck!
                                    Doug Plaza MICP
  SLMR 2.1a  Judge the provider not the payscale!


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From: Dennis.Wareham@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Dennis Wareham)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Police News?
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:08:10 -0600

I've been lurking around this newsgroup for awhile now, looking for some law
enforcement related postings, but the emergency services topics covered seem to
be limited to fire and EMS. Nothing against these services (I'm a former EMT and
F.F. II myself), but I'm looking for a source of L.E. or criminal justice
postings too.  Any ideas or leads from anyone?
Thanks for any assistance you can provide..
 
Dennis...Burnsville (MN) P.D. <dennis.wareham@tdkt.kksys.com>
From: Arthur.Jones@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Continued conversation
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:25:00 -0800

Got your message about Montgomery County...

                   SAD... BUT TRUE.

I'll catch up with you later. By the way, what squad do you run with?
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From: Darrin.Culver@f53.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Darrin Culver)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: MURPHY'S LAW OF EMS
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:52:00 -0800

SS>As slow as things have been around here, we may need to schedule
more
SS>parades (grin)

        Be careful what you wish for my friend, you just may get it.


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From: Ken.Hendrix@f2103.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ken Hendrix)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Eye Protection
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:05:09 -0800

I would be interested in obtaining some info on the goggles that are
most notably used by firefighters in the western part of the country,
particularly California.  I am looking for some effective eye
protection in lieu of the visor that is standard on helmets today.  I
currently have Bourke eye shields on my helmet, but as a practical
matter they really dont offer much in the way of really protecting your
eyes when you need it most.  Do the goggles I am referring to meet some
sort of OSHA or NFPA specs?  Are they designed for this line of work or
are they something that can be picked up at a good hardware store.  If
this sort of eye protection is a specialty item, where can it be
obtained and what is the approximate cost?  I havent been able to come
up with anything in this part of the country so any help would be
appreciated.
Ken Hendrix, Dallas TX



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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: I have one for you!!
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:38:00 -0800

Hi Neil:
I just got back from Fire House this evening. I have a Lanesboro Fire
patch for you.. I'll have it out btw Saturday or Monday, I'm really
sorry.
I didn't send you one,when I was trading with you at the time.

Thanks for bring that to my attention Neil...


                           Later..

                          Paul...  
 
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:25:00 +1600
From:         USR2879A@CBOS.UC.EDU
Subject:      Kidde Fire Extinguishers

-->I once had a Kide
--> fire extinguisher fail.  I purchased it around the middle of
-->1991 brand new from a department store (Sears or Wards...etc.)  I don't
-->remember the exact model of the extinguisher, but it was a class ABC with a
-->plastic body and nozzel, about 1.5 feet tall and 4 or so inches in
-->diameter.


Sounds identical to the one I had.

-->Nothing came out.
-->Apparently, the gas which charges the extinguisher had all escaped.
-->All of
-->the extinguishing agent, however, was still inside.
Same here but I didn't break off the nozzle Chris.  -->I suggest you write to Ki

dde with all of the specifics of the incident and
-->the extinguisher and either 1) notify them for the purpose of informing
-->them of a defect for their information or 2) notify them for the purpose of
-->reimbursement or replacement.

I have already done so and they've agreed to provide me with a refund when I
ship the old one back to them.

-->Who knows, the company might have to recall
-->some of their extinguishers if there is an inherant problem in their
-->pressure management.
Sounds that way!

1Merry Christmas!

Ohio Valley REACT Inc.
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