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From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Subject: Re: Anyone out there with an R-8,R-8M Drum machine?
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:32:37 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <1992Aug13.134656.660@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Charlie) writes:
>I'm interested in getting an Roland R-8,R-8M drum machine, and in particular,
>a card I'd like to get for it would be the jazz brush cards. Does anyone know
>a little more about these machines? What's the polyphony (simultaneous drums)?
>How're the samples (in particualr hi-hats, crash cymbals)? Easy to program?
>Hard? Velocity sensitive pads?
>
I've owned an R8 (later traded in for an R8m) since it first came out.
The jazz brush card is probably best card (partly because it's a fairly
unique collection of samples --- any other machine have them??)

The R8(m) has that distinctive Roland sound......warm and sweet without
being tinny.  The samples sound great when pitched down low.  The crashes
are long enough.  With NO eq, the overall sound is NOT that same
aggresive sound that you can get from an EMU Procussion.  I've done
very intense music with it though -- I prefer to attack the intensity
through composition as opposed to raw sound quality because I still
like a very clean sound.

I found the machine incredibly easy to program, but then again I found
Sound Tools and Notator pretty easy to master...I've been learning
these kinds of things since 1980 when nothing was terribly complex.

The pads on the R8 are pressure sensitive, not velocity. THis makes 
for certain advantages, but the pads are not the greatest but ok.

The machine has 12 voice polyphony, a lot for percussion since most
sounds don't last very long.  Sounds when re-triggered before they die
away (like cymbals) can trigger the next voice so the previous sound
doesn't get cut off (you can disable this feature for every sound).
This gets you very realistic ride cymbal playing for example.

The machine 'only' has 68 sounds internally.  The R8 can accept one
extra ROM card of 26 sounds while the R8m can accept three ROM cards
simultaneously.  It's hard to imagine that I used to sleep ok knowing
that my drum machine used to have 1 snare, 1 kick, 3 toms, 1 crash,
1 open/closed hat, 1 ride, 1 clap, 2 congas and 1 woodblock and I
had a DELUXE model!!!!!!!

The Emu Procussion comes with 1000 sounds (but NOT expansion?!?!?!)
The Alesis D4 comes with 500 sounds (but NOT expansion?!?!?!?!?!)
The new Roland ?? comes with 250 sounds (but NOT expansion?!?!?!?!?) but
it's supposed to be in the LOW END.

ferenc
From: jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Shaggy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Pointer to Mark Mothersbaugh
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:55:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Mark Mothersbaugh also did the soundtrack for the short lived tv
series "Mann and Machine" on NBC, a few months back.

Just though you would like to know!


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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:51:55 CST
From:         Rod Lemcke <WEBERLOI@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: Amiga
              19 Aug 1992 16:53:41 GMT from <D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

If you are looking for a CD for sampling call Jason Keeler at (306)-761-0034.
He might sell some of his.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.dsp,comp.sys.hp
From: eckert@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Toerless Eckert)
Subject: Re: AUDIO-CD READING ?
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:28:15 GMT

From article <1992Aug17.113234.15909W@lumina.edb.tih.no>, by ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH):
> In article <1992Aug13.113900@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov>, xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph D. McMahon) writes:
> 
>>The Iris Indigo is currently the only machine which supports direct reading
>>of the audio data on a standard CD. It also can write audio output direct to
>>its DAT drive. Otherwise, you're right. You're SOL.

I have been told that the CDrom drive sold with the SGI Indigo really
can read the audio tracks over the SCSI interface, due to a changed
firmware in the CDrom drive. Technically speaking this should
be possible with any CDrom drive given the right firmware.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:00:25 ADT
From:         Alan Edwards <aedwards@JUPITER.CSD.UNB.CA>
Subject:      Re: E-Music Seminars?

> Recently, I discovered the Kodak Co's Center for Creative Imaging in
> Maine.  They offer what looks like good two-part session in e-music.
> The six day session is in two parts MIDI & Music Synthesis and Desktop
> Music Production.
> My boss is willing to pay my way,

luck you..

> but I want to know whether or not
> their program is any good.
>
> Do any of you know about the Kodak Center?  David Mash from Berklee in
> Boston is teaching.  I haven't heard of him.  Does anyone know him or
> his work?
>
I went to a MIDI session at CCI a few months ago, and meant to post a
note here about it, but never got around to it. It is a very nice place
with all of the latest in Apple computers, laid out so that each person
gets their own workstation, and the teachers screen is projected at the
front of the class so that everyone can follow. The synths were M1's.
I don't have a lot of time now to give a complete description, but if
you have any specific questions feel free to email me.

Alan



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From: nastasi@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joseph.l.nastasi)
Subject: Misc for Sale
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:13:21 GMT
Keywords: Rack, Aural Exciter


For Sale:

Samson Rolling Rack - open wheel-mounted rack
Aphex Aural Exciter Type C


Both in excellent shape with the original boxes.
Best offer that includes shipping.  Will sell separately.

Cheers,
Joe Nastasi
AT&T, Middletown, NJ
(908) 957-6365 7am-4pm EST M-F
From: pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Alesis SR-16 For Sale
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:28:28 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <1992Aug19.130527.4936@icd.ab.com> jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker) writes:
>
>I picked mine up brand new from Guitar Plus (708) 439-7625 for $299.
>
>-jaz
>-- 
Picked mine up used in perfect condition for $100.00 at Applied Audio (716)
272-9280.
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From: lawrence.lougheed@rose.com (lawrence lougheed)
Subject: Re: Tell me about the
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:45:06 GMT
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Date Entered: 08-18-92 03:34
In rec.music.synth sef@sef-pmax.slisp.cs.cmu.edu writes:

[text deleted]

>The samples come from the built-in 8M of ROM sound files, two optional 8M
>ROM banks with additional sounds (coming soon), or add-on RAM memory (up to
>32M) that can be loaded from floopy disks, SCSI hard disk, MIDI (if you're
>patient), or the audio sampling option (coming soon).

Can you add both optional 8M ROM banks at once, or only one at a time?

Lawrence Lougheed
Brantford, Ontario
Canada
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From: joeg@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Joe Gaudreau {Dances with PostScript})
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.compose,comp.music
Subject: Notation question for C-Lab's Notator 3.1
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:32:38 GMT
Organization: Oh sure

I'm using Notator 3.1 to create a score and have run into a notational
problem...

I'd like to represent a dotted half note tied to an eighth of the same pitch
(ie a note the length of 3/4 + 1/8).  Notator will let me enter such a note,
but it gets represented at a double dotted half note, which I suppose is
correct (2/4 + 1/4 + 1/8).  It just doesn't look good to me and I'm concerned
that someone may not sight read it correctly the first time (the other form is
easier and seems somewhat more 'standard' (yes??))

Hmmm, has there ever been any previous discussion about how to do esoteric
things with Notator and are they archived anyplace? :) ;>

Thanx.

Please reply to: joeg@silver.lcs.mit.edu and I will summarize.

Joe
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From: benson@decwin.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: electric violins
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: benson@star.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


|>I have talked to Zeta who makes a violin and midi controller, but the 
|>violins are well over $1000 and the controllers are about $1500. Zeta 
|>has a wicked pickup system, but the prices are a little high for a 
|>college student.
|>
|>Any one know of anything else or ever play an electric violin?
|>
|>-Scott

I have one made by T.F.Barrett of Vermont. You can see ads for his company,
and other electric violin makers, in STRINGS magazine. Mine is a solid-body
5-string - my wife claims it looks like a boat anchor.  Hard to argue.
I like the sound, but I find it a bit heavy for extended playing. This
is slightly older model, made (I think) of solid maple. I understand that
his newer models use a combination of woods and are lighter. They also
use the same pickups as the Zeta violins now (at least as an option). These
have a transducer per string, unlike mine, which just has one in the
bridge.

Aside from the Zetas you mentioned, I've also seen ads for a new Steinberger
electric, which at a glance looks like a robot grasshopper... It has no
body at all  - just the neck, with a couple of legs going down to shoulder
pads, and a rod going up to hold a chin rest.  I think they're even more
expensive than the Zetas. Another one I've seen but know nothing about
(except that I don't like the shape of the body) is Raad.

STRINGS recently (might even be the current issue, since it only comes out
6 times a year) had a full article about electric violins, and mentioned
a few others.  If the cost of a Zeta is a problem (it is for me - I bought
my electric used), I doubt that any of the ones they mention will be real
possibilities for you.  I think they talked about a maker named Jensen.

I also added a pickup (Barcus Berry) to an unfinished acoustic violin I
picked up at a flea market and finished.  The sound is OK with a little
equalization (ok, a *lot* of equalization) and other effects, but not as 
good as the solid body. Neither sounds like an acoustic violin, of course,
but it doesn't sound like you want it to. Neither do I.

I think Zeta sells their bridges separately, so you might be able to improve
your sound with one of those - I'm sure they're still not cheap, though.

Tom
benson@star.enet.dec.com
From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: synth lists
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:35:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: UNHH.714321341.420000.D_NIBBY

I've heard of an Ensoniq EPS list mentioned here several times,
but without an address. I've also heard that there's a list for
Korg T owners. I'm looking for a list for M1 owners. Does someone
have a list of these specialized synth mailing lists? 
If you know of any, can you please post their addresses here?
Everyone will benefit. Why keep these lists secret?
 
   Pax,

    Dana
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Deathlehem "...Pain"
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 11:14:13 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

Deathlehem "...Pain" tapes, being mailed TODAY, include:
 
Judy Hawkins
Jay Bromley
Dr. Metlay
    &
Jim Smith
 
Ron Peterson: Your analog sequencer schematics are being mailed today, as 
well.
 
Thanks to all that have responded towards the tape request.  (There are 
still 3 or 4 people whose tape or money I'm waiting for.)  
If all goes well, the tape should be in the store by the week after next.
Tape costs then will be roughly $4 Cdn plus shipping.
 
Five
 
P.S.  The commercial ones have a pleasant surprise at the end of them.  
(This is not sarcasm.)

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;E-mail: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bohdan.kiszczuk@rose.com (bohdan kiszczuk)
Subject: Fostex x-26 for sale
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:53:22 GMT
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Date Entered: 08-21-92 14:47
I have a Fostex X26 4 track for sale. $275CDN ($230US). Used approx. 4 
hours. 
Comes with manuals and original box
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From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: WANTED: Rok Steady one or two tier stand
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:35:31 GMT

Anyone have one they would like to part with?

swood

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From: aedwards@JUPITER.CSD.UNB.CA (Alan Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: New MIDI message
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:41:42 GMT
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The drummer and I were discussing the need for a colossal sound at the end
of a piece, as well as MIDI things in general.
We decided that a new MIDI message was needed:  All Notes On

Of course this would be implemented as a companion message to All Notes Off,
and effectiveness would vary dependent on the available polyphony.

We thought it was a good idea, but are not sure how to present it to the IMA.


:-)       ...in case you were wondering...           (-:

Alan

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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Price for Performer sequencer
Date: 23 Aug 92 06:45:29 GMT
Organization: Bradley University

What's the going rate for MOTU's Performer sequencer for the Mac?


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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: ensoniq SD1-32 vs. the other workstations
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:13:43 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: etsang@skat.usc.edu's message of 20 Aug 92 18:20:20 GMT

In article <l97oj4INNi6p@skat.usc.edu> etsang@skat.usc.edu (Eric Tsang) writes:

   As you all
   know, you buy the syn. because you like the SOUND, the functions are
   not that important in some senses.

Never has a falser word been spoken.

Nick.
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From: chris@uk.ac.gla.music (Chris Scudds)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: WANTED - TX81Z's
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:57:38 GMT
Reply-To: chris@music.gla.ac.uk
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service


Our department needs several TX81Z's for FM and MIDI teaching.

Is there anyone who could sell us several ( around 5 ) in one go? It would
save us having to negotiate / arrange shipping five times over.

Perhaps another department upgrading their MIDI lab? A fanatical FM fan
who needs cash for an SY99?

We would pay the best prices!

Thanks in advance.

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From: "wayne kelso" <wayne.kelso@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: line level matching
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:27:38 EST
Reply-To: "wayne kelso" <wayne.kelso@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

I've been using a stereo 10k pot to trim a +4 mixer's output level to 
match with a -10 PCM input. Is there a better way to do this, whether it 
be a passive or active circuit?
I'm assuming that it is better to attenuate the signal past the mixer's 
fader, rather than just pull the mixer's fader's back. 
Any circuit ideas would be most welcome.

Wayne.Kelso@canrem.com

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From: jensenq@qcj.icon.com (Quinn Jensen)
Subject: Yamaha SY-35 versus SY-22
Organization: Millenial Research Institute, Orem, Utah
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:39:20 GMT

After looking at the new SY-35 it appears that it is simply a revoiced,
repriced SY-22.  The package and user interface are the same.  The AWM 
and FM elements appear to all be the same.  The only difference seems to 
be the price ($899 list, if I recall correctly) and the preset voices.  
What I think I'll try next is to dump the new SY-35 voices into an SY-22
and see if they work.  I'm betting the sysex format is the same, although
I haven't checked this.  They may have changed a byte or two in the header
just to frustrate guys like me but that will just make it a little bit 
harder to copy the voices.

Any comments/confirmations/truth?

Quinn Jensen
From: ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH)
Subject: Re: AUDIO-CD READING ?
Organization: T I H / T I S I P 
Posting-Front-End: Winix Conference v 92.05.15  1.20 (running under MS-Windows)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:32:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.113900@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov>, xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph D. McMahon) writes:

>The Iris Indigo is currently the only machine which supports direct reading
>of the audio data on a standard CD. It also can write audio output direct to
>its DAT drive. Otherwise, you're right. You're SOL.

Can it write only the audio track, or the information channel (or signal
or whatever it is called on the DAT) as well? In other words, can I copy
a digital recording (e.g. from a CD or a prerecorded DAT tape) to the
DAT drive *without* writing the SCMS digital-copy-protection codes?

And, when will we get similar functionality on PC class machines?

(By the way, does anyone know if the protocol spec for the CD and DAT
information channel is available at an affordable price? A few years ago
I saw a price tag on the CD standard document that was in the kilodollars
range a few years ago, and I even think there was some non-disclosure 
terms with it!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: timchan@bnr.ca (Timmy Chan)
Subject: FTP site for UPLAY (U20 ed/lib)
Reply-To: timchan@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:56:39 GMT

Does anyone out there know of an FTP site where I can get a
shareware called UPLAY?  I believe the DOS version is called
UPLAY200.ZIP and the windows version is called UPLAY300.ZIP.
This shareware is an editor/librarian for the Roland 
U20/U220/U110 family of Sample Players.

If you know, please send me e-mail on the sites (I don't often
get on this news group) if possible. 

Thanks.

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From: kentrox!ktxs8!peter@UUNET.UU.NET (Peter Uchytil)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Free Newsletter for Samplers!!
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:32:48 GMT
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Comments: To: uunet!AMERICAN.EDU!SYNTH-L@uunet.UU.NET

>
> If you haven't already sent in your mailing address to me to get a
> free copy of LOOP, the Journal of the International Samplers Co-op,
> you still have a chance.
>
> Myles
>

Sorry to post this to the list (newsgroup), but I have no idea what your
email address is, Myles.  I'd like a copy.  Please send it to:

ADC/Kentrox
14375 NW Science Parkway DR.
Portland, OR 97229

Thanks!

pete
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From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:27:00 GMT
Subject: Re: K2000 < analog
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

In rec.music.synth, ITB650CLOW@redgum.qut.edu.au (The Bard) writes:
>
>I've heard some "what I think is" pretty cool analog noises coming from a VERY
>basic FM synth. (I don't think its even got filters).

Maybe it has loose transformer windings.  Seriously, though, I wonder which
"basic" FM synth you mean?  I have yet to hear anything approximating an
unfiltered sawtooth come out of a basic 6-op FM synth without filters et al.
If you mean, saw, a square wave (or a sine wave :->), sure, that's easy.
If you just mean a decent animated synth sound, okay.  But "analog," as in
pulse-width modulation layered on top of a detuned sawtooth all fed through
a filter with moderate resonance?  I seriously doubt it.

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