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From: jlc@atux01.att.com (Jim Collymore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Should I compile my stack scripts, and other software protection issues?
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:44:04 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T Corporate Education and Training

I would like some opinions regarding my Wedding Planner software.  Right now
this program is a HyperCard stack that will run only on the Macintosh
platform.  The nature of the Mac, and HyperCard, has been one of openess and
sharing of ideas.  So saying, most HyperCard stacks do not have their scripts
protected, or unreadable.

However, I was wondering if it wouldn't be a good idea, before I go commercial
with my stack, to buy "Compile-It" from Heizer software, and compile all my
scripts so as to make them unreadable by users.

Is this a good idea?

And now a question for hypercard programmers:

Is there a way to keep someone from making multiple copies of my stack?
For example, if I gave a "site liscense" to a bridal consultant allowing
them to make 10 copies (or a private couple, allowing them one copy), is there
a way to write a script so that the stack would know how many copies were
made of itself, and not permit further duplication?  Any ideas?

Thanks for your suggestions.


					Jim Collymore
From: tasavard@phy.duke.edu (Tom Savard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Spinside Macintosh- Is there a find next command?
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:06:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University Physics Dept.; Durham, N.C.

I am new to C programming and Mac programming in general.  As a toolbox
reference, I have been using Spinside Macintosh.  When I use the find
command on an object, I can only get to the first reference the object in
each card.  If I 'find' again, I either get the same reference or the
first reference in the next card.  Never do I get the next reference in
the SAME card (which is usually what I need).  Any suggestions?  Please
reply via email.

Thanks!!

-- 
	Tom Savard				(919)-660-2515
	Physics	
	Box 90305/Duke University
	Durham, N.C.      27708-0305			
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: dpg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Daniel Patrick GOTTLIEBSEN)
Subject: Re: Dumping all the scripts to the printer
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:44:56 GMT

ccy@po.CWRU.Edu (Cheung C. Yue) writes:
>I have a need to modify an existing HC stack, and needed to 
>see ALL the scripts in hardcopy.  I wound up going to every
>button on every card, and every background, getting the button
>info, then printing the script if there is one.  Seems to me
>there may be a stack which would handle all of that automatically.
>Is there such a beast?  Thanks for all input.

	The Power Tools stack contains a script dumper along with a variety
of other useful things. There are also stacks I've seen called StackDoc and
Stack Detective that can dump stacks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: felciano@summit.stanford.edu (Ramon M. Felciano)
Subject: Q: Purging/Compacting mem from XCMDs?
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: Stanford University Medical Media and Information 
 Technologies
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:12:19 GMT
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.

Hi --

I'm writing an XCMD that does animation in a window. I want to create a
frame buffer to store a series of frames (basically a wide GWorld
consisting of a series of side-by-side rects). I'm having trouble
figuring out exactly how much memory is available to me from within the
XCMD. Can I purge memory? Can I compact the heap? How much extra do I
need to leave so that HC can still survive once I leave the XCMD?

Thanks!

Ramon

+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| Ramon M. Felciano           felciano@summit.stanford.edu    |
|                             (415) 723-9688                  |
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From: jkc@Apple.COM (John Kevin Calhoun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: WindowScript (was Re: (Q) Colouring HC... once again
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:59:15 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <ward1.716500534@husc8> ward1@husc8.harvard.edu (Lester Ward) writes
>I highly endorse this product for use in what HyperCard is best at: quickly
>prototyping software before writing it in a real language.

The particular product under discussion is WindowScript.  I agree that it
enhances HyperCard's usefulness as a prototyping tool.

However, I disagree with you when you say that HyperCard is a better
prototyping tool than it is anything else.  And, I suspect, the large number
of in-house developers, educators, content publishers, and commercial
developers who have chosen HyperCard as their development environment --
not as their prototyping tool -- will also disagree.

I'm interested in opening this topic up for general discussion.  We've all
read what the press has said about HyperCard.  But the press doesn't know
best.  The people who work with HyperCard know best.  So, what's it good for?

What do you use HyperCard for?  Prototyping?  Courseware?  Personal
information?  Multi-media?  Training?  Just what is going on with HyperCard
these days?

All responses welcome, both postings and e-mail.

Kevin Calhoun
jkc@apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: halet@ernie.cs.byu.edu (Todd Hale)
Subject: Re: Portrait Size Window WANTED
Organization: student@byu
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 19:44:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.173153.28824@hamblin.math.byu.edu>, halet@ernie.cs.byu.edu (Todd Hale) writes:
> 
> I posted a question about trying to get portrait size windows--actual
> windows VS. the little virtual (scroll) window that pops up for me now.
> I tried allocating more mem to HyperCard (up to 3 Mb), but still can't
> get a very large actual window.
> 
> Any other ideas/clues??

I don't know why I couldn't do it, but I finally got around it.  When
I tried to change the size of an existing stack to portrait size, I'd
get a standard mac screen with the scroll window for a virtual-type
portrait window.  To make it worse, the resize button in the Objects/Stack
dialogue box would disable.

To get around it, I created a new stack, resized it to portrait size,
opened the existing stack "in a new window," then was able to resize
the existing stack!!

If anyone knows why this was required, please let me know.

Todd

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: eric@homebase.vistachrome.com (Eric Brunson)
Subject: Re: SCSI Differences in IIfx and IIsi? STRANGE Problems with Scanner
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:40:17 GMT

ia4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imran Anwar) writes:

>II FX SCSI PROBLEMS WITH DEVICE THAT WORKS WITH II SI


>Could it be that good old Apple Computer has different (incompatible)
>types of SCSI ports on the II fx and si.  (eg the modem ports on them are
>built differently a few weeks ago each of my WorldBlazer modems failed
>to work with the II sis while they worked with the II fxs.  [Maybe Apple
>should also be getting a Baldridge Award ;-)  ]

Are you using the black terminator that comes with the fx?  The fx has 
a SCSI bus that requires different termination than any other pre-Quadra
mac.


-- 
Eric Brunson           |
eric@vistachrome.com   |     These opinions are mine alone, but
brunson@math.fsu.edu   |   they could be yours for a low monthly fee.  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: PERFORMAs & IIvi's ??  Are they good?? [Was: new prices; when?]
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 01:19:16 GMT
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco

ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng) wrote (in article <9209041841.AA02202@moe.optics.rochester.edu>):
>1)  What are the differences between IIvi's and IIsi's (also IIci's)
>2)  What are the differences between Performas and Quadras?
>    (I'm assuming that Performas are also Workstations)
>3)  Should we expect a further discount for IIci's and IIsi's once
>    these "new guys" come out?  In both local dealers as well as
>    universities' computer stores?

Here's the best advice I can give, based on rumors I've heard.  After
the Performas appear on September 14 (my birthday! anybody wanna give
me one?) and the IIvx and IIvi appear on October 19, the Mac product
line will look like this (excluding Powerbooks):

  Low-end:
    Performa 200 (the Classic II, renamed)
    Performa 400 (the LC II, renamed)

  Mid-range:
    Performa 600 (68030 at 32MHz, no math coprocessor or cache)
    IIvi         (68030 at 16MHz, probably with coprocessor and cache)
    IIvx         (68030 at 32MHz, with math coprocessor and cache)

  High-end:
    Quadra 700
    Quadra 950

The rumors have it that the IIci and IIsi will be discontinued.  I'd
also expect price drops on them soon, no matter what their future.

     << Brian >>

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ag239@yfn.ysu.edu (Christian Horcel)
Subject: Keyboard menu (Q)
Reply-To: ag239@yfn.ysu.edu (Christian Horcel)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:36:56 GMT


	Could some one please tell me how to add the little menu right to the
help menu that shows the current keyboard layout being used? I have that in 
my mac but I forgot how I did it!! (my friend needs it..) 
	One more thing, after the menu is in place, how can I change the icon
of the keyboard (the flag)?
	Thanx so much,
							Chris
-- 
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Christian Horcel	      University of Kansas
chorcel@oread.cc.ukans.edu
ag239@yfn.ysu.edu	    Kicked your PC lately?
From: resch@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Keith Resch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How to assign F Keys?
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:44:15 GMT

I have an extended Keyboard and I want to know if there is a program
that would allow me to assign things to my F keys like undo in all
programs and such.
_____________________________________________________________
Keith Resch  -  University of San Diego School of Engineering
		(resch@teetot.acusd.edu)
From: minow@Apple.COM (Martin Minow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: What do I need to develop Mac apps?
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:24:32 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <5457@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
(Tim Streater) writes:
>I am thinking of writing Mac apps, and have a number of questions:
>
>1) Is MacsBug any use? I see version 6.2 sold with the Apple doccy in
>   bookstores, is there a later version? 6.2 appears to be 1990 vintage.
The latest version I have (which might not be available outside Apple yet)
is 6.2.2. It's on the September 92 developer's CD which will be mailed
shortly.
>
>2) I assume that "Inside Mac" books are a prerequisite, is the new version
>   actually out yet, I looked in 2 technical bookstores in Palo Alto tonight
>   and only saw the older version.
Both Stacey's and Computer Literacy in Cupertino have the first three
volumes of the new series. If I were you, however, I'd get a good intro
to Mac programming (Knaster and Rollin, for example) and use Think Reference
for your "toolbox" reference.
>
>3) I want to be able to read disk blocks directly from within a file, and
>   furthermore to do it *asynchronously*. Are there primitives to do this?
The SCSI manager (and relevant parts of the operating system) is synchronous.
If you need asychronous SCSI I/O, you'll probably have to use a 3rd party
SCSI adaptor and driver software. Asychronous disk I/O is a non-trivial
problem.
>
>4) Sort of related to (3). Does it make any sense for me to be issuing SCSI
>   commands to the disk or is this merely what the driver does?
I wouldn't do this if I were you: you lose the convenience of file I/O and
volume partitioning. On the other hand, if you're trying to read a non-Mac
SCSI drive, you're stuck.
>
>5) Do I have access to and control over interrupts? If I have some code that
>   *has* to execute within a given time can I disable interrupts to ensure
>   that this happens (and not thereby miss interrupts).
Sort-of, but the Mac should not be regarded as a real-time operating system
(i.e., it isn't RSX-11M). You should think through your application to
see how you can avoid fine-grain real-time issues.
>
>6) I understand there are app builders that can set me up a skeleton app to
>   handle window redraws etc, any recommendations here? I plan to use Think-C.
Think C comes with a class library that simplifies application construction
as it relieves you from a lot of work with the O.S. You might also find
that AppMaker, Prototyper, or Marksman offer additional capabilities. You
can also use Apple's MacApp, of course.
>
>7) Can I do sound asynchronously? I have limited experience here, but it seems
>   that when the Mac plays a sound everything else stops.
Yes. Read through comp.sys.mac.programming and look for anything written
by Jim Reekes -- he's the Sound guru. Also, you should pull a copy of
the Usenet Mac Programmer's Guide off of one of the archive sites; it has
a lot of useful programming info.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions - Tim.

Martin Minow
minow@apple.com
The above does not represent the position of Apple Computer Inc.
From: bng@tropel.gca.com (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: 137351373513735$ MACINTOSH's NEW PERFORMAs 137351373513735$
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:17:55 GMT

Hello!

Did anyone look at the Performa 600 yet?  I only saw 400 on
shelf at Lechmere and Staples.

Couple of Q's"

1)	How much is Performa 400 and 600 CPU at your area?

	Here in Rochester, NY: Performa 400 CPU - $1450
			       Performa 600 CPU - $2000
			       Performa 600CD CPU - $2500

2)	Is the System 7.0P good comparing with regular 7.0?	

3)	Which company makes the tube for Performa's Monitors?
	{ I know  that Sony makes the Old Hi-Res Apple Mons}
	I think Performa's monitors are made in Taiwan [I am
        not saying that stuff from Taiwan is not good though!]

4)	Should we buy the regular Hi-Res instead of the new
        Performa's Hi-Res Monitor?

5)	There is no CACHE and CO-Processor for Performa,
        does it matter though?  For graphics and text processing.

Your comments are greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
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From: brl@kopasker.is (Bjorgvin Runar Leifsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:18:58 GMT
Organization: Primary School of Kopasker, Iceland

Hey, folks, how often have the MS-DOS freaks announced 'death of the Mac'
everytime something new turns up for the PC and alike clone?  And how
often have they been right?

NEVER, of course.

Ever since the first Windows, have they been all over claiming power to the
PC.  But try to compare the Mac interface to Windows.  Who would exchange
sys 7 for Windows?

No, the Mac lives.  Windows is nothing but a poor attempt to get a Mac 
performance.

Just sell your PC/AT or whatever and buy a Mac.  After all, Mac is cheap as
we know from varoius threads at comp.sys.mac.misc  :-)

Bjorgvin R. Leifsson
brl@kopasker.is
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jabba@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Richard Charles Graves)
Subject: Re: Multiple Extension Levels? IDEA
Organization: Residential Computing, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:14:33 GMT

Gary Goldburgn writes:

>What we need is a transparent way of designating QuickTime, Tuner, etc as
>'System-level' extensions, so that when you press the Shift key, these
>stay in and the others are skipped.

I disagree. I think it would be annoying to be uncertain about what
extensions are loading, or to have no recourse other than dragging them
out of the System Folder. We can maybe assume that 'System-level' extensions
are bug-free, but they do take up memory and maybe processor time, which are
what I like to save with Extensions Off.
I think Extensions Manager (now in version 1.7, on ftp.apple.com and
everywhere else) would give you most of the functionality you want, though
you have to deal with an interface and a couple keystrokes at startup
instead of just holding down the shift key. I'd like EM to become "real"
System Software, not just wannabe system software like its docs and splash
screen suggest.

A feature addition I WOULD like, sort of relevant, would be the ability to
specify whether AppleTalk loads at startup without having to restart --
maybe make it an extension you can manipulate with Extensions Manager. I
assume this is possible, i.e., that AppleTalk loads pretty late and can be
interrupted or begun during the INIT-loading stage, because the Tuner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Kathy A Graff)
Subject: Macintosh Users Group Meeting
Originator: kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: milw
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:11:32 GMT

Announcing:

                      SEPTEMBER DOUBLE CLICK MAIN MEETING

                         Sunday, September 20, 2:00 PM
                           Bolton Hall, Room B46
                                UW-M campus

Double Click is the Macintosh Users Group of Milwaukee. If you use a 
Macintosh computer or are interested in them, please come. These 
meetings open to the general public. You don't have to be a member 
to attend.

AGENDA:

     * Demonstration of shareware and freeware available on 
       Double Click Disk # 81
     * Question and answer session
     * News and announcements
     * Reports from the Special Interest Groups (SIG's)

     * Break

     * Main Demonstration:
       
       This month's meeting is for beginners. (And experienced users 
       who want a review or to learn some new tricks!) We will be 
       showing everything beginning with how to set up your computer.
        
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20 (Sun) 2:00 PM   MAIN MEETING         kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
                   Specially for Beginners
                   B46 Bolton Hall, UW-M

24 (Thur) 7:00 PM  Programmers          Warren Miller 1-284-7169
                                        wleemiller@aol.com

                   MIDI-Music SIG will not meet in September
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 7 (Wed) 7:00 PM   Telecommunications   Jim Macak 964-3147

12 (Mon) 7:00 PM   Multi Media          Jim Wamser 774-7336

14 (Wed) 7:00 PM   Business             Randy Groh 548-0159
                                        rgroh@aol.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: lsr@taligent.com (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: Startup chord sound level
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:34:09 GMT

In article <D2150039.cvm7s1@udwarf.tymnet.com>, carl@udwarf.tymnet.com
(Carl Baltrunas & Cherie Marinelli 1.5v4) wrote:
> 
> Turning down/off the sound doesn't do the trick.  Someone once complained
> that turning the sound to 0 actually made the startup chord louder.  I have
> not experimented to veify this... I also don't have a PB (yet).

That is true.

The phone jack trick is the only thing that makes the machine completely
silent.  As far as I know, there's no way to bypass the startup sound,
since that happens before any other software gets a chance to run.

The next best thing is something I wrote called SilentBeep.  What this does
is make all SysBeeps flash the menu bar as if the sound volume was 0.  With
this installed, you can set the sound volume to 1 to get the softests
possible startup sound, but still have a silent beep the rest of the time.

It's available at ftp.apple.com in /pub/powerbook.

Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.

lsr@taligent.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Joel Sumner <js17@cornell.edu>
Subject: Teach Text as default text file reader
X-Xxdate: Mon, 7 Sep 92 15: 54:09 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: js17@cornell.edu
Organization: Trapped at Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:49:21 GMT

Is there any way to get the Finder to open text files with an editor
besides Teach Text?  

Please E-Mail, I'll summarize
Joel Sumner
js17@cornell.edu
q4kx@cornella (Bitnet)
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From: boyd@apple.com (Scott Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.x.x Finder Heap Allocation ?
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:22:39 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <1992Sep2.191821.22486@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, 
gpb@gpb-mac. (greg berryman ) wrote, suggesting that you alter the Finder
to give it a larger heap.

Don't do this.  It won't get you what you want.  Finder has two sub-heaps,
and their sizes are fixed.  You won't be altering their sizes when you
adjust
the Finder's heap size.

It is far more likely that you are running out of Finder heap because some
poorly-written software is allocating memory in other people's heaps,
including Finder's.  You might try looking through your extensions to
see if you can spot the offender.

scott
boyd@apple.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sweimar1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Steve Weimar)
Subject: Re: AppleTalk and "Printer port in use"
Organization: Education Program
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:36:52 GMT

It appears there was something obvious, brought to my attention by Mike
Shoemaker.  In my case I can go to the Network Control Panel and select
Remote Only.  This enables me to print on my Imagewriter and connect to a
remote network without having to reboot to reset the port and enable
AppleTalk.   Thanks Mike.

-
steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7 Force Quit Help
From: zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Gregory Talmo)
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:45:15 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State Academic Computing

In article <1992Sep10.065350.28337@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>,
smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) wrote:
> 
> aq2@prism.gatech.EDU (QUAY,ANDREW MARK) writes:
> 
> >Anybody know how to turn off System 7's command-option-shift-control-esc
> >for force quiting applications? I'd prefer an init over editing the system
> >files.
> 
> Um, it's just Command-Option-Escape.
> 
  And why would you want to turn it off? --> Just don't use it.

- Greg Talmo  (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)
                                   | The opinions expressed above are my
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 "Mothers are much fonder of their |and do not necessarily reflect the
 children than are fathers, for    |opinions, tastes, or policies of Winona
 they are more certian that they   |State University, its faculty, staff or
 are their own."       - Aristotle |students.