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From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Dorm life
Date: 16 Nov 1992 22:08:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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The funny thing is, though, that I think Philip is right: there is a definite
discrimination against us, headbangers.  We have a cable in our house, and
the only thing I watch during the whole week is Headbangers' Ball, and occasio-
nally I watch Jeopardy (odd combination, isn't it?).  Well, whenever I watch
Headbangers, everybody wants to watch Saturday Night Live but since most of
the people in my house are decent, they let me watch it... NOT! They would
sit there and sigh, then start talking loudly so I can't hear anything that's
coming out of TV. Eventually, enough people pile up on the couch and every one 
of them would glance at me occasionally, like "what hell are you watching?"
Whenever somebody comes down to watch TV, he is met with sort of beg for 
mercy: "We are watching some heavy metal..."  

Also, somebody said we should be turning our music down to respect others.
Well, let me tell you something: every time I turn up the volume of my stereo,
when I listen to metal, the guy across the hall knocks on the door and shouts,
like he needs to take a piss but he can't hold it anymore, "can you turn it
down?"  He, himself listens to some fucking rap every fucking day, and I can't
bear it anymore, and I never study in the house: I always go to library.

So, judge for yourself, and I doubt that there was, is or ever will
be any "... Justice for All Headbangers."



Renegade. 
-- 
"I know that I work for Time-Warner, one of the main purveyors of evil
 in the universe.  The way I see it, sometimes you have to rot the
 infrastructure from within." -Al Jourgensen
From: kellejb2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jeff Keller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica and GNR
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:12:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <Bxx9FI.Lu0@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> wilsonjc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (John Wilson) writes:
>In article <BxwByo.MDw@DMI.USherb.CA> vignl00@DMI.USherb.CA (LOIS VIGNEAULT) writes:
>>I've been to the Montreal show.  Yes the one where James get burned by the
>>pyro stuff!
>>
>>And the smae where #@%@#$ GNR gives a five songs performace!
>>
>>What a bunch of fucking bastards! (GNR of course)
>>
>>After 2 hours (or mroe) waiting for GNR, the crowd was getting upset.
>>When GNR started, everybody seemed to have forgotten the wait time!
>>But when Axl told us to get a refund (he had some voice problem) the crowd
>>began shouting "FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU."
>>Fuck GNR! (The worst part?  They got more popular after the mega-riot!)
>
>	I went to the Indianapolis show, and Metallica has got to be one of
>the best bands to see live.  I was even anxious to see GNR until Axl came out 
>and began calling the audiences hicks and putting down Indiana.  Now I agree,
>it's not the most exciting place in the world, and there are alot of hicks here,but I paid thirty bucks to hear him sing, not hear him tell us his life story
>and preach to us about how bad our lives are.  Is it just me, or is Axl a total
>asshole to everyone? Just curious.
>John
>

Axl truly was an ass in concert, but what can we expect living in his
home state that he is obviously so very proud of?  Is it our fault that Tyson
was put in prison for rape?  I don't think so.

-- 
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From: cpluis@cats.ucsc.edu (Mulatto)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Dorm life
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:22:24 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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I meant KEA.    ok is it a crime to mispell some words?
I was too fuckin' stone when I typed it ok.   
by the way...........   your too late some people already complained....
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: rchabot@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert J Chabot)
Subject: Re: Metallica Sucks . . .
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:51:38 GMT

In article <23NOV199211484825@phobos.ucc.umass.edu> s9877751@phobos.ucc.umass.e
du (s9877751) writes:
>C'mon, get with it, losers.  Metallica sucks.  They don't play REAL
>metal.  They're a big bunch of sell out losers--their last album was shit,
>and anything they make in the future will be shit.  They had some good
>music on their earlier albums, but they just SOLD-OUT!  So, go ahead and
>flame away, but Metallica has sold out and that's, SAD BUT TRUE.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, what a bunch of losers!
>
>Here's some bands you should be listening to:
>venom, bolt-thrower, carcass, obituary, slayer, iced earth, iron maiden,
>deicide, unleashed, entombed, nocturnus, and so on and so forth...
>

Iron Maiden?  Sheesh, gimme a break.  Those guys have defined "putting out
shit" since their Powerslave/Seventh Son period.  Carcass?  I refuse to
acknowledge road kill--much less listen to it.

That's all the time I've got, folks...

The Clam
From: srk4@po.CWRU.Edu (Simran R. Kumar)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: White Zombie CD availability
Date: 18 Nov 1992 04:39:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: srk4@po.CWRU.Edu (Simran R. Kumar)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, JXH107@psuvm.psu.edu (Jeff Hochberg) says:

>Does anyone out there know if the "Soul-Crusher" LP and/or "God of Thunder"
>EP are available on disc? I'm assuming yhey're not, but I'd like to be proven
>wrong.
>                Jeff
>
>

I had to special order SOUL CRUSHER, but it is available.  As for GOT...it is
no longer in print.

ACE
Metal Director
WRUW-FM / Cleveland
-- 
Your bones will build my palaces, your eyes will stud my crown...
For I am Mars, the god of war, and I will cut you down.

We are notes in the music, searching for remembered rhyme.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Subject: Fates Warning
Reply-To: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:16:25 GMT

Hey there, I love Fates Warning!  Any TAB's you have of Fates stuff is
greatly appreciated!  Anyone have their really early CD's?  I only
have No Exit and Parallels, and I can't find their other stuff
anywhere.  If you're a big fan, you might want to get Guitar's
Practicing Musicians Vol. 2.  It has a version of At Fates Hands from
Perfect Symmetry, renamed 'At Fates Fingers' and it is mindblowing!
This comp album also has stuff from Nuno Bettencourt, Brad Gillis,
Eric Johnson, Blues Saraceno, Steve Stevens, Mark Wood, and a bunch of 
others.  It's not in too many stores but you can mail order it from Cherry 
Lane, there is almost always an ad/order form in every issue of GUITAR
for the practicing musician magazine.

can't figure out how to make a sig.
From: SATELLITE@eldi.epfl.ch (Uncle Alias)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theater == Cheese metal ????
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:45:13 GMT
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In <92328.025242MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu writes:

> Okay,
> 
> Earlier this evening, while writing a paper on Modern Federalism and the US
> City (OH JOY!), I decided to pop in _Images and Words_ to get the blood
> pumping...
> 
> About halfway through "Metropolis I", my roomate looked up from his book and
> said :
> 
> "They're a cheese metal band"
> 
> "The singer sounds just like Mark Slaughter"
> 
> (One other derogatory comment that I forgot)
> 
> Any comments?  (I disagree wholeheartedly with both comments!)
> 
> Slainte mhath,
> 
> Mike
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	Comment #1: your roommate is musically deaf

	Comment #2: your roommate is brain-dead

	Comment #3: your roommate doesn't like Dream Theater (things happen...)

	Comment #4: all of the above...

	Suggestion #1: ask him to clarify his/her comments. Why does he/she
thinks so, etc... This should make him/her shut up for a while and otherwise
give you an occasion to argue a good bit, improve your ulcer and spare you a
psychiatric seance.

	Suggestion #2: turn the volume to "Global Thermonuclear War" and ignore
any further comments by simply being unable to hear them.

	Suggestion #3: nuke the bastard!

	Suggestion #4: buy some real "cheese metal", like Europe's "Final
Countdown" and a pair of ear plugs. Play it loud until he/she dies, run away
screaming or apologizes...

	Suggestion #5: all of the above.

	Final suggestion: don't take any of those seriously. I just didn't
wanna put 8-)'s every line, so here's a big one in the end..:

	8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)...8-)

	"Fire in Harmony!.."					Alias
							wasting bandwith...

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: Hanoi Rocks
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:24:03 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Nov16.162454.26779@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>I was wondering if any of you considered the Hanoi Rocks progressive. I know 
>the name "glam rock" would seem to sound more like "regressive metal" but I
>feel that these guys would definitely be an exception. Musically they played
>several styles - which would be unique since Andy McCoy wrote about 95% of 
>their material, cowriting with Mike Monroe or doing cover songs on the rest - 
>it's hard to say what style they are because the songs go back and forth. 
>For instance they play blues ("Self-Destruction Blues"), pop rock ("Cheyenne"),
>country ("Lost In The City"), classical ("Strange Boys Play Weird Openings"),
>60s type rock'n'roll ("Back To Mystery City"), heavy metal ("Underwater World")
>and so on. Some songs like "Million Miles Away" (E.Z.O. covered this song) do
>weird things in the middle. You basically have to listen to a Hanoi Rocks album
>to get an idea of what kind of musicians they were. I don't think any of their
>affiliates matched them since they broke up (after drummer Razzle Dingley was
>killed in a DUI accident involving Vince Neil) - affiliates meaning bands with
>one or more of the members of the HR.
>Just wondering what you people thought about this band and if they would belong
>here aside from the normal HM groups.
>

I sure do.  I love Hanoi and have always.  I think they are definitely 
progressive.  They are in a group by themselves though cause their music
was so unique.  Wish I could have seen them live.  Glad you brought them
up.


of course that's just my opinion, and who the hell am I?

John H. Lake
From: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Fates Warning
Date: 21 Nov 92 20:32:52 GMT
Reply-To: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Organization: Columbia University

I don't know if you good ffolkes know this or not, but I was reading some
shitty musician-oriented mag a few months ago (think it was Night Howl, or
the Angle - I can't be sure), and it said that Fates broke up.

(after two minutes of copious tears)

<SNIFF> I'm ok.  Anyway, I think that it was amazing that they lasted so
long, what with Metal Blade giving them their traditional Bargain Bin
treatment.  If you listen to the lyrics of Parallels (especially The Road
Goes On Forever and Leave The Past Behind) and parts of PS (like Nothing 
Left To Say), they basically have been spelling this out for years.  Oh
well, the industry sucks another creative entity dry.

At least Dream Theater escaped the Mechanic curse by switching to Atco,
giving them years of obscure semi-hits before they retire and go back
to Charlie Dominici's Auto Body Shop and John Arch's Castrati Workshop.

all in jest,

  OOOOO  OO  OOOO   OOOO     sinn santos, computer music, columbia university.
 /OO/// /OO /OO//O /OO//O     "They can take the record, and they can SHOVE
 //  OO /OO /OO /O /OO /O     IT RIGHT DOWN THEIR THROATS!"   "Money talks,
  OOOOO /OO /OO /O /OO /O      and bullshit walks..."  "Every song's a hit!"
From: S_TILLENBURG@iravcl.ira.uka.de (|S| Stephan Tillenburg)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: WATCHTOWER IS IT !!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:02:51 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe (FRG) - Informatik Rechnerabt.
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Watchtower is one of my absolutely favorite bands.
I saw them on tour in germany ( twice, couldn't get enough )
( must have been April 1990 ).
The singer Alan left the band after the tour, the band is looking for
a new one since then. The guitarist has some problems with his fingers
and was in hospital few times, but i dont know if he's ok again.

They made two records yet:
1) Energetic Disassembly ( on their own label ZOMBO RECORDS )
   You can order it directly from the band, but when i got my
   copy, it was only available on MC 8-(  LP was sold out.

   The sound of this record is NOT that good, different singer
   ( Jason McMaster, now with Dangerous Toys ) and different guitarist
   ( Billy White, was (is ?) with Dokken for a time)

2) Control And Resistance
   Excellent piece of music !!!
   Never heard a thing like that !!! 
   It's the most intelligent played thrash ( some jazzy influence -
   a million notes per second ) i've heard so far. Most of my friends
   like the music but HATE the vocals, so check that before buying !

            RESIST CONTROL
                     Stephan
From: gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theater mailing list
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:49:21 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof

This was actually something we talked about in the FAQ...even though
I'm a *huge* Dream Theater fan, I can't decide how necessary a mailing
list would be.  I just don't know how much there is to talk about on
a regular basis yet.  I really like seeing DT discussion on the net
as well, what little there is.  Just my coupla cents.



s
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (STEP OUT OF THE CAR PLEASE)
Subject: Re: Fates Warning
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:04:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services

Thanks for all the responses.  I'm glad to know there are other Fates *heads* 
out there!!!

I'll try and type in some of the Fates tabs during the Christmas break.  (I'll
spare you all the hideous story of by academic semester.)  Send me some
requests....I know just about everything before Perfect Symmetry, although I
will not attempt to transcribe anything from side two of No_Exit (time
constraints) and some of the solos still elude me.  My first tab will probably
be "Worlds Apart" from Perfect Symmetry.  Someone said that they though 'The
Spectre Within' is their best album...I disagree, however, it is a great album.
No Exit is IMHO, their very best; to me it is the 'Dark Side of the Moon' of
heavy metal.  Listen to it with headphones on and you'll see what I mean.

Also, thanks for the info on Watchtower.  I was under the impression they had
three albums......Is this not correct???

I'm looking for Dream Theatre's first two (they have three, right) albums.  Can
someone help me here?  I'll definately let you know if they're as great live as
I've been hearing they are.  Speed doesn't impress me much, but note choice
does, and I don't think I'll be disappointed!

Nadster

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Fates Warning
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:15:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.203252.6069@news.columbia.edu> ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos) writes:
>I don't know if you good ffolkes know this or not, but I was reading some
>shitty musician-oriented mag a few months ago (think it was Night Howl, or
>the Angle - I can't be sure), and it said that Fates broke up.
>
>(after two minutes of copious tears)
>
><SNIFF> I'm ok.  Anyway, I think that it was amazing that they lasted so
>long, what with Metal Blade giving them their traditional Bargain Bin
>treatment.  If you listen to the lyrics of Parallels (especially The Road
>Goes On Forever and Leave The Past Behind) and parts of PS (like Nothing 
>Left To Say), they basically have been spelling this out for years.  Oh
>well, the industry sucks another creative entity dry.
>
>At least Dream Theater escaped the Mechanic curse by switching to Atco,
>giving them years of obscure semi-hits before they retire and go back
>to Charlie Dominici's Auto Body Shop and John Arch's Castrati Workshop.
>
>all in jest,
>
>  OOOOO  OO  OOOO   OOOO     sinn santos, computer music, columbia university.
> /OO/// /OO /OO//O /OO//O     "They can take the record, and they can SHOVE
> //  OO /OO /OO /O /OO /O     IT RIGHT DOWN THEIR THROATS!"   "Money talks,
>  OOOOO /OO /OO /O /OO /O      and bullshit walks..."  "Every song's a hit!"

GOOD NEWS:

They didn't break up and are currently label shopping for their next album.
I do beleive that their contract with Metal Blade expired though.
I'll have to ask the guys I know who hang with Powermad to ask them 
about it. <Powermad was recently on tour with Fates Warning> 
BTW, Powermad hasn't broken up either!

The rumors persist, but I am glad they do not appear to be true!

					--Judex--
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theater == Cheese metal ????
Date: 23 Nov 1992 09:07:19 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <92328.025242MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Okay,
>
>Earlier this evening, while writing a paper on Modern Federalism and the US
>City (OH JOY!), I decided to pop in _Images and Words_ to get the blood
>pumping...
>
>About halfway through "Metropolis I", my roomate looked up from his book and
>said :
>
>"They're a cheese metal band"

Um, well I guess everyone's entitled to an opinion...

>"The singer sounds just like Mark Slaughter"

Now wait a minute here!!  Tell you're roommate he'd better stop hogging
all the good drugs, cause he's obviously taking them, and I don't know
about the rest of you, but he ain't been sharing with me!  8-)

>(One other derogatory comment that I forgot)

Probably worth forgetting...

>Any comments?  (I disagree wholeheartedly with both comments!)

See above.

>Slainte mhath,

Huh?

>Mike
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: RE 	Hanoi Rocks
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:26:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.152142.8873@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> lrose@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (punskovsky,linda r) writes:
>
>A friend of mine is a big Hanoi Rocks fan, and I had an opportunity to listen
>to some tracks from them.  As a new fan to an old group, what album would you
>suggest I get as a first?
>
Well, I'd save TWO STEPS FROM THE MOVE to last. A number of people seem to like
BACK TO MYSTERY CITY the most. While TWO STEPS is not a bad album, and while
it's the heaviest that they had, it's very different from the rest partly 
because it was produced by Bob Ezrin and not Mott The Hoople or Overend Watts
I can't remember off hand now. Wasn't Overend Watts from Mott The Hoople?

Anyway, when I don't know a band too well, I always start off on compilations.
Try ALL THOSE WASTED YEARS. It's a live concert at the Marquee and has songs
from all but TWO STEPS albums. Or if you can find MILLION MILES AWAY, DEAD
BY CHRISTMAS, or TRACKS FROM A BROKEN DREAM, all but MILLION MILES have
previously unreleased tracks, and a lot of their most popular songs. If you
get one comp you don't need to get another one. I also got in Japan (my first
big intro to Hanoi Rocks) SUPER BEST - UP AROUND THE BEND. (They did the
CCR song "Up Around The Bend" and it was a big single for them, as was I
believe "Underwater World.")

Actually, if you get the cheapest Hanoi Rocks album from your record store,
I don't think they've ever had a bad album. It finally comes down to personal
taste, but since they've had quite a number I think it would be better to get
ana lbum which costs the same as the others but has songs from a huge part
of their career. Then go on to the individual albums.

My opinions of course.

philip
Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
From: s0383619@let.rug.nl (J.J.G.M. Nijhuis)
Subject: Re: Fates Warning
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:29:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.061625.20399@news.columbia.edu> esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai) writes:
>From: esl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ernest S. Lai)
>Subject: Fates Warning
>Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:16:25 GMT
>Hey there, I love Fates Warning!  Any TAB's you have of Fates stuff is
>greatly appreciated!  Anyone have their really early CD's?  I only
>have No Exit and Parallels, and I can't find their other stuff
>anywhere.  If you're a big fan, you might want to get Guitar's
>Practicing Musicians Vol. 2.  It has a version of At Fates Hands from
>Perfect Symmetry, renamed 'At Fates Fingers' and it is mindblowing!
>This comp album also has stuff from Nuno Bettencourt, Brad Gillis,
>Eric Johnson, Blues Saraceno, Steve Stevens, Mark Wood, and a bunch of 
>others.  It's not in too many stores but you can mail order it from Cherry 
>Lane, there is almost always an ad/order form in every issue of GUITAR
>for the practicing musician magazine.
>

Fates Warning is one of my all-time favourites too! I have some TAB's at 
home.I will post them next week some time. 
The older albums are great too. Maybe even greater... Here in Holland they'
re not that hard to find, except for 'The Spectre Within', which is IMHO 
their best album. 
Thanks for the info on 'At Fates Hands'. I will try and get the copy.
Bye,
      Jurgen Nijhuis
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive