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From: kbs@espresso.ai.mit.edu (Karen B. Sarachik)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Question about Elephant Walk in Somerville
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:23:14 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab


I have been to Elephant Walk in Union Square, Somerville several
times and thought the food was excellent. However, I stuck to the
Asian food side of the menu, which reminded me very much of Vietnamese
food (lots of salads spiced liberally with cilantro, basil, mint and
chili-like sauces) with a hint of Thai (for instance, some dishes have
a coconut-milk based sauce, which as far as I can tell is not very
Vietnamese, at least according to the recipes in my Vietnamese
cookbook). I'm somewhat bewildered by the fact that they also serve
French food (onion soup, things like Beef Bourgignon, things with
cream sauces) because although I'm aware of the historical reasons for
the introduction of French food into the region, the two styles seem
pretty diametrically opposed to me.

So, I have two questions:

(1) Is Elephant Walk's French food as good as their Asian food?, and

(2) Is French food part of the mainstream culture in Cambodia? Like,
would a family sit down to a meal of seafood crepes as often as a meal
of spicy grilled beef salad over rice noodles?

Karen
From: delanzo@sparc22.hri.com (Michael DeLanzo)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: The  Bertucci's from hell
Keywords: pizza
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:57:59 GMT
Reply-To: delanzo@hri.com
Distribution: ne
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


In article <1992Aug24.154646.68336@uvmark.uucp>, todd@uvmark.uucp (Todd
Cooper) writes:
> In article <BtDAxG.LE0@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M
Richmond) writes:
> >bungi cords. The _____ (can't use the word restaurant!) is obviously
> >not supervised by the head office and is an order of magnitude below
> >the normal Bertucci's standard.
> 
> I am not a Bertucci's owner or have any other contact than being a customer,
> but I have eaten at this one many times and never had a problem.  My
experience
> was mainly at lunch during the week.  Perhaps that is the problem.  Have
> you complained to management.  Most restaurants are fairly receptive to 
> complaints (especially Bertucci's). You can probably get a free meal
from them.

I have to agree with Mr. Richmond. I am 2 for 2 in bad experiences at
the Bertucci's on RT 20 in Marlboro. I not going to try 3 for 3. I had
nothing but good experiences at all of the other Bertucci's I've been in
(about 6 different Bertucci's).

-md

PS: All have been for dinner.
From: raisch@Control.COM (Robert Raisch)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: What _is_ Greek Pizza?
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:15:18 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Control Technology Corp., Hopkinton MA


In my experience, (MI, IL, OH, NY, MA), "good" greek pizza uses egg in the
dough.  It gives the dough a yellower cast, and a slightly more rich texture
and taste.  The best "greek" pizza, (Bell's in East Lansing, MI), (IMNHO), 
also was unique in it's use of White Cheddar cheese instead of Mozzarella.

In my other life, (GB, IT, FR, GR), most continental pizza sucked bad.  It 
seems to be a major rule of the universe that pizza is purely an American 
product.  Foreign pizza is not worth the time and pizza in Roma is almost
excretory.

<rr>
-- 
"Nobody knows the tourbles I've seen." ...And I'm not even wearing any trousers.
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:03:55 GMT

gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette) writes:

>In article <7101@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>> It really worked too. I was really put in my place by that
>> "f--- you". You really showed me, Steve. Thank you so much.
>> Would you please send me a note when I'm allowed to come out
>> of my place?

>I have forwarded your last message to Mary Chungs lawyer, for possible
>action for libel. 


*laughing* *hysterically*

Thank Heavens, somebody is starting to lighten up.

Thank you VERY much for the humor!!!!!!

Charlie R.

-- 
*****************************************************************************
*  Charles Richmond 	Integrated International Systems Corporation        *
*  cmr@world.std.com	(Temporary) cmr@chiechan.mro4.dec.com		    *
*  Specializing in UNIX, X, Image Processing, and Communications.           *
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Diversity and provincialism in pizza
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:19:19
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com's message of 1 Sep 92 13:30:55 GMT

   I am also from the home of real pizza (NJ) and thus am disgusted by what
   passes for pizza in most on NE. 


I've had great pizza in Jersey, in NYC, in Baltimore-Washington, in
New Haven, in San Francisco, in Salerno and, yes, in Boston-Cambridge.
Pizza is an adaptable sort of food and can be well-made in many
different ways: regional and other kinds of diversity in pizza should
be *enjoyed*, not whined about. Pizza provincialism, on the other
hand, is just as boring, and just as narrow-minded, as any other kind
of provincialism. Why limit yourself?
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Italian food
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:08:03 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Aug28.213808.6527@athena.mit.edu> dethomas@athena.mit.edu (Drea E Thomas) writes:
> Is is just me or is 70% of Italian food a topological
>transformation of spaghetti.. Different shaped noodles
>perhaps, maybe 2 different sauces, but is that all
>there is? You will spend $12 in an italian restaurant 
>to get a plate of fancy spaghetti... in a chinese place
>you can get a wonderful ginger-soy lobster (yum!).
>(the other 30% is some form of pizza)

Try going to (fanciest first) Michaela's, Buoniconti's
(both on First St, Kendall Sq. area, Cambridge) or Marino's
on Mass Ave in North Cambridge.  The roast whole pork with
potatoes at Marino's is simply amazing.

> Just so I'm not flamed for only posting in order to
>whine. Royal East on main st. in Cambridge just got
>a facelift.. The dining area is expanded and some new
>windows were added. Nice job.

It's a lot more pleasant a space.  They could have spent some money
on improving the food, though.

>In my opinion this place is the 
>best and most consistent chinese restaurant in the 
>central/kendal square area. Reasonably priced, and 
>consistently good food..

Well, it can be a little heavy and greasy, and you have to be careful
ordering so that you can be sure the dish won't be covered with that
candied red tomato glop they like so much.  On the other hand,
sometimes that's just what you feel like eating. :-)  I don't mind the
place, but finesse and subtlety doesn't come to mind, either.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: bsmith@serverx.osf.org (Bruce Smith)
Subject: Re: Good Pizza
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:32:16 GMT

In article <MARY.92Sep1095713@martinique.Cayman.COM> mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug31.235933.167@spdcc.com> jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz) writes:
>
>   Growing up in New Jersey, I feel I am the Ultimate (tm) judge of pizza....
>
>Well...I'm coming from Schenectady, New York, where there IS no "Greek pizza" 
>AND no "California pizza", but something like 200 mom-and-pop Italian 
>pizzerias...


Huh! I grew up in Queens, NY, where even the meanest hole-in-the-wall
pizzeria had better pies than anything I've had during the almost 20
years I've been in the Boston area. And thick crust on pizza? No way. Might as
well call it bread. Actually, now that I think about it, Emma's in Cambridge
is OK, Lucia's in Winchester is pretty good, and even Bertucci's will do in
a pinch. But heck, the pizza truck that used to come around to my grade
school had better pizza than...(further ranting, raving, blustering, and
puffing deleted).

Bruce Smith
From: manes@bu-pub.bu.edu (Michelle Manes)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:12:09 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <7117@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
<lots of flames and counter flames with Steve Dyer deleted, thank god>
|> {my apologies to ne.food readers}

So take it to email, willya?
This has long since passed boring and has entered the
realm of annoying.  

michelle
-- 
Michelle Manes		|	"What should I be when I grow up?"
manes@bass.bu.edu	|	"Honest."
			|	-Robert M. Pirsig


Newsgroups: ne.food
From: shari@omar.WPI.EDU (Shari Deiana)
Subject: Black Forest Cake
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:09:19 GMT

Hi, I am desperate for a recipe for Black Forest Cake.  My BF's birthday
is next week (that's why I posted here along with rec.food.recipes, being
moderated, that other group can be slow).  It's his favorite, help, and thanks!
From: spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: on beer...
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:43:11 GMT
	<1992Aug26.161258.11479@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu>
	<SPIKE.92Aug26141342@coke.std.com>
	<1992Aug28.190608.1717@inmet.camb.inmet.com>
Distribution: ne
Organization: Software Tool & Die

In (see above) wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Wayne Wylupski) writes:
<In article <SPIKE.92Aug26141342@coke.std.com> spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua) writes:
<>	Actually it's been claimed that "American Beer" (Pilsners?)
<>are suppose to be some what refreshing.
<Claimed by whom?  The marketers of American beer, or the drinkers of beer
<around the world?

	I heard Jim Koch of Sam Adams fame claim it.  He was very
defense of big American beers.

->Spike

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The Truly K00L don't have signatures.
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Wayne Wylupski)
Subject: Re: on beer...
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:06:08 GMT

In article <SPIKE.92Aug26141342@coke.std.com> spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua) writes:
>	Actually it's been claimed that "American Beer" (Pilsners?)
>are suppose to be some what refreshing.

Claimed by whom?  The marketers of American beer, or the drinkers of beer
around the world?

wayne
-- 
Wayne Wylupski    {...!}uunet!inmet!wayne    wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com
From: jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Good Pizza
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:59:33 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Guest of Steven Dyer Consulting

Growing up in New Jersey, I feel I am the Ultimate (tm) judge of pizza, and
for my tastes Bluestone Bistro is first, Bertucci's (but only Framingham
and Newton) is second, and O'Hara's third.  O'Hara's, you say?  Located
in Newton Highlands on Walnut Street, one block from Center Street.
Best to get take-out, they are usually *packed*.

One of these years I'm going to try Santorpios in East Boston right by the
tunnel entrance.  I may change my mind about Bertucci's.
-- 
     Jerry Natowitz
     Guest user on:
ARPA jin@ursa-major.spdcc.com
UUCP {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!jin
From: kcreta@sedona.intel.com (Kenneth Creta)
Subject: Character-recognition 
Originator: kcreta@sedona
Reply-To: kcreta@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation, ASIC in the Desert
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:53:48 GMT


Hi guys,
	I don't where it most appropriate to post this but this is the closest
I can find.  Where can I get info on character-recognition software.  I need
something that can most reliably read hand-writing.  Is there anything 
publically available to play with or is it all sold?

	If I'm in the wrong place, I apologize, and could someone point me in
the right direction.

						Thanks,
							Ken
From: huitema@mitsou.inria.fr (Christian Huitema)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: DECstation audio/XMedia
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:52:02 GMT
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France

In article <52105@dime.cs.umass.edu>, hgschulz@cs.umass.edu (Henning Schulzrinne) writes:
> We are trying to use the audio capabilities of the Personal DECstation
> for real-time audio. Unfortunately, XMedia proves to be somewhat
> unsuitable for the task, since (among other reasons) we can't seem to get
> real-time play/record buffer position information or get notified (after
> less than 500 ms) how much audio data is available. Any suggestions on
> using DECstation audio (with or WITHOUT XMedia) are very much
> appreciated. (For the curious: we are implementing a real-time
> multiparty audio conferencing facility.)
> ---
> Henning Schulzrinne  (hgschulz@cs.umass.edu)  [MIME mail welcome]
> Dept. of CS and Dept. of ECE; Univ. of Massachusetts at Amherst
> Amherst, MA 01003 - USA === phone: +1 (413) 545-3179 (EST); FAX: (413) 545-1249

I have a similar request. We are trying to port some audio software on the
Decstations, and are really dissatisfied with the overall philosophy of the
"audio server" approach. Hell, we wanted a simple analog/digital converter
that would enable us to input output voice, and we are delivered a "sound
processing system" that cannot work without being intertwined with X-Window
and MOTIF. The specs are not delivered with the hardware, and DEC suggest that
we have to go through studying the "DEC multimedia architecture" before even
trying to sing "Hello world" through the loudspeaker. We immediately concluded
that we wont buy any DEC machines anymore for multimedia applications, but are
still stuck with the one we already bought.

Does anybody have the spec of the hardware interfaces (/dev/lofi), or will we
have to reverse engineer them?

Christian Huitema
From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Waveedit stupid?
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:47:36 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

Does anybody know where to find WAVE (or voc) recorders for Windows?
Waveedit is so stupid that allways takes MIC as input (even if you want to
record in stereo).

manolo@taf.fundesco.es

Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: perlman@SMTC.engr.scarolina.edu
Subject: Software review
Reply-To: perlman@smtc00.engr.scarolina.edu
Organization: NIST Southeast Manufacturing Technology Center
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 18:28:32 GMT

My wife and I saw a mm demo focusing on public school education.
We shared the same feeling about this stuff:
----  Gotta have it!  ----
I'm in the process of upgrading my PC, then will shop for
CD ROM and software.  My questions:
1 - What pubs are available that review CD software?
2 - What specs should I look for in hardware -
   a - speed
   b - caddy or caddyless
   c - other
3 - Am I asking in the right group?  Can you point me to more
    appropriate group(s)?

Thanks, Rich.

Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: david@convex.csd.uwm.edu (David Stack)
Subject: Re: VGA -> VCR/TV
Originator: david@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: david@convex.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:34:51 GMT

From article <1992Sep1.082922.6735@ericsson.se>, by etxaek@callisto.ericsson.se ( Anders Ekholm TG/HU):
> I'm interested in get my VGA or SuperVGA video output to normal TV or
> a VCR. Is there anybody who could suggest which hardware and software I
> could use?
> 
> Preferably I want the output both on the monitor and the VCR/TV. I normally
> use windows at 1024x768 resolution which I would like to continue to do
> while using this extra hardware.
> 
> Any suggestions /
> 
> 
>                       /Anders

Dalco Computer Accessories 1-800-445-5342 has a PC to TV Super VGA Card.

"...This card is a 16-bit VGA graphics adapter with a built-in video encoder
to convert your VGA graphics signal a NTSC composite video signal for
standard color TV use...displays graphics composed in 1024x768 in 16 colors
and at lower resolutions with a maximum of 256 colors...RCA,S-VHS and RGB
Output Connectors; supports MS Windows 3.0; NTSC Recordable Resolutions up
to 640x480 in 256 Colors; Simultaneous Non-interlaced VGA and Interlaced
NTSC Outputs.   #80910...$395.00"

I have no personal experience with this card, but it sounds good.
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Graphic Formats
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:24:55 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug28.200805.18914@afterlife.ncsc.mil>,
rmrohre@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Randy M. Rohrer) mentions a book that describes
a bunch of graphics file formats, including:

> 24. PICT

Just a reminder that the Macintosh PICT format is very much a moving target.
Which version of PICT does the book describe:

	* version-1 black-and-white PICT
	* version-2 colour PICT
	* version-2 colour PICT with minor enhancements like storing font
	  names instead of just IDs
	* version-2 colour PICT with 32-bit QuickDraw (direct-RGB pixmap)
	  extensions
	* version-2 colour PICT with 32-bit QuickDraw and QuickTime
	  (compressed pixmap) extensions?

I'd be pleasantly surprised if it went up to the last level. But I would
be disappointed if it didn't go as far as the fourth.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
Government Logician's warning: Smoking shortens your cigarettes.
From: kashyap@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Need info
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:49:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi!
	Could some of the more knowledgeable readers of the newsgroup point me
towards some basic literature on Multimedia, applications and the like.
Thank you in advance,
Ramkumar Kashyap
email: Kashyap@wharton.upenn.edu
From: TANYA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Videovision opinions?
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:19:08 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Radius has recently come out with a new card for the Macintosh, called the
Videovision, which is supposed to facilitate video capture, output NTSC,
and function as a 24 bit video display card for certain resolution monitors.
I would be interested in hearing if anyone has seen this card yet, and if
so, what his/her opinions are on it.  Thanks -
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Touchscreens for the Mac
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:45:25 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep3.163035.11105@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, red6d@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert E. Delzell) writes:
> I'm currently working on a project that is going to require a
> Touchscreen monitor.  In the project we will be using Quick
> Time videos and high resolution images so we would prefer a
> touchscreen system that didn't obsrure these images. If you
> know of any good systems please drop me a line.

There's a company called Edmark, who claim to support a wide range of Mac
monitors. We're planning to get hold of one to try out with an LC and the
12" colour monitor (so we can get 32,768 simultaneous colours).

I forget the US contact details, but their AppleLink address is EDMARK, so
you should be able to e-mail them at edmark@applelink.apple.com.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
As part of the process of putting teeth in Internet standards, RFCs
will be renamed DFCs (Demands for Comment).
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: dettmer@jupiter.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Dettmer)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: beginner questions
Date: 31 Aug 1992 14:08:42 GMT
Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jupiter

Dear Reader,

this is a request for information/advise/expertise experience from a
newcomer to the topics of this group. 
Background: We are going to setup a first project in the Multimedia area.
Knowledge about available hardware is low. As a result we need to have
Hypermedia applications on PC basis, with integrated videos and sound. There
must not be a video-disk or something the like used in the resulting
application - therefore we need videos to be compressed in digital format on
a harddisk. 
Additionally we have a group here, that wants to work in the hypermedia area
on a MAC/QuickTime basis. 
A feature we need also is to cut new films out of digital videos and put
them back out of the computer.

We welcome any information about available hardware/software and other
hints (including where to get -in germany if possible- from our experience
dealers in dortmund are not well informed in dortmund..)
Actually we have the following questions:

what is the status of VideoMachine - which features will hard and software
offer?

Is there something comparable to Quicktime on PC basis (which would best
work together with hardware data compression of viodeo)

is there a way (standard format) to port videos in digital (and compressed
if possible) format PC <-> MAC(QuickTime) -what are the implications on
soft- and hardware we should buy?

Thanks very much in advance.
I'll summarize the results, of course.

tom.
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dettmer@ls1.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
phone: +49-231 755 6323, FAX: +49-231 755 6555
Thomas Dettmer, Dortmund University, Computer Science I
Post Box 50 05 00, W-4600 Dortmund 50, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: jmj5g@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (John M. Jackson)
Subject: Re: MacroMind Director 3.1
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:49:07 GMT

hboden@leibniz.fb5  writes:
> concern: problems with 3.0 -> 3.1 update of MacroMind Director (MacIntosh)
> 
> Siegen (Germany), Aug 25, 1992
> 
> Today our computer dealer informed us, that a MacroMind Director update
> will not be available for quite a while. He believes that the prices
> for an update will be available in 30 days. Thereafter we are able
> to order an update which will (of course) take some time.  
> In contrast to this it would be possible to buy a new English 3.1 version now!
> (though an upgrade to this version is not possible now!!). 
> What is wrong ? We do not rely on a special German version of MM.
> Is there anybody out there in Germany/Europe selling 3.1 updates ?
> 
I obtained my CD-ROM 3.1 upgrade directly from Macromedia about
a month or so ago.  Their ph.# is 415-442-0200.  fax
415-626-2843.
--
John Jackson                            jmj5g@galen.med.virginia.edu
Office of Medical Education             jmj5g@virginia.edu
University of Virginia                  (804)924-5839
From: psr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ben the Crafter)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: some advice, please
Summary: Passport's Musictime and Yamaha's TG100
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:02:39 GMT
Followup-To: psr@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: UB

I'm thinking of setting myself up with equipmeny to start composing music
with my computer.  After some research, I think I'm settling on the above
program and soundcard/interface.
I may have the name of the program wrong.  It's definatly by Passport and 
is the smaller version of Encore.
The TG100 is an external unit that hooks up to the serial port (so I don't
have to pay extra for Microchannel architecture) and works as a sound card
as well as a MIDI interface for an eventual keyboard.
Can anybody offer me any comments or advice on these selections?
Thanks.


-- 
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