From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Mrs. Bo Brady
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:03:37 GMT

In article <921216080632.221b@VAX.CSUN.EDU> VECTRGSJ@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Gail Said Johnson) writes:
>>That's me, the compulsive one.  :)
>Me, too.

Well, compulsion has struck again!


>>Well, I have a problem with even the occasional use of it.  Sorry, but I
>>do.  And you don't, and that is fine.   If it ain't good all the time it
>
>I'd go so far as to say that if that's the way she wanted it, it would be 
>absolutely okay all the time.  It's *her* call, not somebody else's.


She *can* call herself anything she wants.  Same goes for everyone else
out there.   But this will undoubtedly contribute to my opinion on that
person's character.   


>>ain't good some of the time.    If she is allowed to say, even once,
>>"Mrs. Bo Brady" then I want to hear "Mr. Carly Brady", or "Mr. Carly
>>Manning" just once!
>You don't always get what you want.  :)


Why not???!!!     :)


>>>She was happy to be marrying the man she loves.  She was going from "Miss" to 
Lawrence?  She wasn't marrying Lawrence.  Do pay attention.  :)


>You mean, I suppose, that you wouldn't hear Bo say, "This time tomorrow I'll
>be Mr. Carly Manning."  If he were the one who was going to change his name, 
>maybe he would.  


And even if he doesn't change his name, he would never dream of saying
"Mr. Carly Brady".    This whole business of using one's spouse's name
when speaking of oneself is what I don't understand.


>But you're right, a man would perhaps say "tomorrow so-and-so 
      I know :)

>will be my wife."  Do you find that offensive, too?  Shouldn't he say, 
>"Tomorrow so-and-so and I will be married."  After all, "my wife" might imply 
>"possession," too.

I say "my wife" all the time, I suppose.   But I don't mean those words
in the same way as when I saw "my car" or "my desk".   Where the latter
examples do show possession, in the former example I think the use of
"my" just means "she is a wife to me".   But regardless, this is mostly 
okay with me for the simple fact that Susan could also say "My husband".
Both are equally acceptable.


>>practice AT ALL and I think it makes no sense.   The only Mrs. Bo
>>Brady should be Bo after a sex change.   
>That's your opinion and you're welcome to fight to the death to uphold it.


En garde!


>>How about just you as "Mrs. Ivan Johnson" ??     For the record, I don't
>I would find that odd.


I think that is mostly the way I feel about it--  it is just plain ODD.
I'm not really offended by it, unless I see some other signs that there
is a superiority/ownership sort of thing going on.


>>go for the "Mr and Mrs. John Doe" crap either.   "Mr. and Mrs. Doe" works
>>just fine.
>My sister always addresses letters to Mr. and Ms. Johnson.  I find that to be 
>ridiculous.  Why not just use our names?


When talking about one's sister I too would think that you should be on
a first-name basis.   :)    But in more formal correspondence the 
"Mr. and Mrs. Johnson" would seem right to me.

---

Yeah, Joanna came up with the lyric and we can finally lay this one
to rest!

Intriguing lyric of the week:
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                 "Captivum solve Israel
                  Qui gemit in exilio 
                  privatus dei filio."
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           "Veni Veni"   by   Mannheim Steamroller
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