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From: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: No murder of babies!
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:20:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: milestn.54
Reply-To: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Organization: Milestone R/D Labs, Milw. WI

In article <1992Apr13.184017.14415@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
>From article <50@milestn.UUCP>, by marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach):
>All murder is killing, but not all killing is murder.  I presume,
<Marc, that you would not kill someone who was trying to kill you.

I happen to personally believe that certain deaths are necessary for
survival.  This includes human and non-human.  

My point was for the anti-abortion crowd who uses the death of a human
defense.  If abortion is the death of a human and you don't like 
human death, then how can one support war and capitol punishment.

<respect your right to so choose, but I object to making that
<choice for me and mine!

That's a final sticking point.  If one wants the CHOICE of an abortion,
then let them.  Individual liberty to make a decision.

<I read somewhere that the church took a stand against abortion in
<the 1880's because it endangered the life of the mother.

However such an edict based on the saftey of the mother does not
address either the 'life/humanness' of the baby, nor the medically
safe abortions of the 1960's

<< And the final thing is there are a number of people who do not 
<< consider a first or even second trimester fetus human.  If something
<< is not human and life is stopped on that something, how can it 
<< be murder of a human?

<Well, if the pregnancy is not terminated, will the result be a
<carrot?  A rat?  Can you say "A human baby"?  I knew you could. 

How does your statement negate or counter the ascertion a 1st trimester
fetus is not (consider by some) yet human?  (for that matter 
what makes a human?)

The argument of 'Abortion is the ending of a human life' is a weak one.
It's as weak as the church argument posted by another 'reader' of this 
group who stirred up this thread again.


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From: mad5c@dogwood.cs.Virginia.EDU (Michael DeLong)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: e-mail addr (memory trick)
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:23:17 GMT
Reply-To: mad5c@dogwood.cs.Virginia.EDU (Michael DeLong)
Organization: University of Virginia

How to remember Enos Slobodnik?  Because its so much like
Joe Slobotnik.  Anyone remember who he was?

Mike.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain)
Subject: Re: No murder of babies!
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 14:56:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.095846.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> axd7104@acfcluster.nyu.edu (Aaron Dickey) writes:

>> Do you suggest that we charge women who suffer "spontaneous abortions" with
>> murder as well?

>Of course not, because that is an Act of the LORD! ;)

	Perhaps, but the mother is still an accomplice, and should be
tried as such. More seriously, though, is the idea that this LORD
fellow has been allowed to kill with impunity, and there is no move to
stop him, even though it seems widely accepted that he is responsible
for more deaths then Hitler and Stalin combined.

	I call for all right thinking americans to bad together to
eradicate this LORD person! Hang him from the highest tree! Or better,
lets crucify to SOB, as a lesson to all that would follow him!

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From: rfa@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Robert F. Alexander)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: H. Ross Perot for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:28:04 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <92097.215116JCS130@psuvm.psu.edu> <JCS130@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>  Dear Rush(idiot) Limbo followers,
>
>                      Mega un-dittos
>                      Jonathan C. Schon
>                      JCS130@PSUVM
>
>             P.S.  Who would re-elect a guy with an idiot as a running mate(no,
> I am not refering to Rush Limbo at this time)?
>
I guess we know who the real Idiot is.
My dad used to tell me that "Fools names and Fools faces always appear
in Public Places". If this is the best you can do, You had better
crawl back into your box and try to graduate before you come around
spewing more of that kind of bilious hogcrap. 


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: AIESEC - Ohio State <aiesecrs@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: I tried not to get into this......
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:44:08 GMT

In article <Hec7iB3w164w@gatecom.UUCP> you write:
>sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
>>
>> Just wondering if it matters to all you abortionists that in 1972 a child wa
s
>> born after 22 weeks of pregnancy.  He is alive and well today.
>> --
>>
>> "When you're right, you're right!"
>
>
>And I supposed this bundle of joy was born and survived without any
>medical intervention?  Ya -- right.  Had it not been for the wonders
>of modern medicine it would have been called a miscarriage.
>
>I don't believe in abortion...but I believe in the right.  It's only
>a few steps from restricting abortion to restricting other rights.
>

       I believe that women should probably be allowed to have abortions, but 
your flippant response about the birth of a human child is pretty sick.

Ryan C. Scharfy
Buckeystate Dittohead
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From: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: H. Ross Perot for President!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:23:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: milestn.47
Reply-To: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Organization: Milestone R/D Labs, Milw. WI

In article <1992Apr7.152914.6100@wpi.WPI.EDU> bab@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Baker) writes:
>In article <92097.215116JCS130@psuvm.psu.edu> JCS130@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
><  Dear Rush(idiot) Limbo followers,
<I'm conservative, although I don't agree with everything Rush
<Limbaugh says.  I'm very open to those who disagree with me
<until name-calling sets in.  In this case, I read the first 
<line, and nothing else.

If name calling turns you off, what do you do about the name calling
Rush does?


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From: jeffb@gatecom.UUCP (Jeff Breitner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: I tried not to get into this......
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 10:50:16 EDT
Organization: Gateway Communication Inc.

sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
> 
> Just wondering if it matters to all you abortionists that in 1972 a child was
> born after 22 weeks of pregnancy.  He is alive and well today.
> -- 
> 
> "When you're right, you're right!"

 
And I supposed this bundle of joy was born and survived without any
medical intervention?  Ya -- right.  Had it not been for the wonders
of modern medicine it would have been called a miscarriage.
 
I don't believe in abortion...but I believe in the right.  It's only
a few steps from restricting abortion to restricting other rights.
 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Come on now...
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

SOMEONE here must know a snailmail address for Rush. Please?
Its not even hate mail, really. I want him to sign a
birthday card for my Mom. Really.

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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Effects of Reagan Budget Defecits
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.28 2/25/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz
Date: 4 Apr 92 19:11:38 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Apr3.222738.5417@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> aiesec@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (AIESEC - Ohio State) writes:
>April 3, 1992 clm@ellis.uchicago.edu(Bill Coleman) writes:
>
>>Missed the point of my posts.  Everybody does NOT agree that the deficit
>>needs to be cut.  What I'm trying to say is that the difference between this
>>year's expenses and this year's tax revenue (i.e. deficits) is not a terribly
>>interesting or important variable.
>
>I understand what you are arguing about, but wouldn't it be more productive to
>argue about how to avoid deficits in the future.  Unfortunately, this would get 
>us into the ugly area of placing blame which nobody wants to accept.  I DO 
>stand corrected when you state that not everybody agrees that the deficit needs
>to be cut.  If you insist on dwelling on the numbers then I will go on record
>as agreeing with 90% of your arguement, the difference being that I just plain 
>think it is bad economic policy to have continueous and large debt.  Since this
>is the first time on the history of the planet that this kind of a debt has 
>been ammassed I find waiting for its effects (if indeed there are any bad ones)
>dissheartening (sp?).
>

How much debt did we run up with the French in 1776?  Guess how much of that
got paid back :)  How much debt did the French run up to us in 1941-1945?  Guess
how much of that got paid back...  Gues how much debt Brazil has/had to US
banks?  Guess how much of that debt was written off...  Simply put, debts like
ours have occured plenty in the past.

The point behind Mr. Coleman's post is that there is a simple mathematical formula:

	income = tax rate * GNP

If the GNP grows 10X or 100X, then the government's income goes up big time, also.  And
when it does, there will be enough to pay for all the CRAP the government pays for
now as well as the defecit and interest.


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From: jeffb@gatecom.UUCP (Jeff Breitner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Men Are Not Cost Effective
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 10:36:20 EDT
Organization: Gateway Communication Inc.

> >all, they leach off the productivity of others and slow the nation
> >down because other people must pick up after them.
> >
> ><Disclaimer:  If you take any of this seriously, get a life!>
> >
> 
> 
> (Thank Saturday Night Live for the following)
> 
> But your discriminating against one of the most discriminated groups.  The 
> incompatent.  Whey should they be ridiculed?  They can't defend themselves.  
> Your very mean.
> 
> Ryan C. Scharfy
> Buckeyestate Dittohead

  
*laugh*  Well, I'd feel sorry but usually I don't have time to as
the incompetent usually fall victim to the laws of natural selection.
They're always killing themselves by trying to paddle down the
Niagra Falls and such other silly things.
From: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Poll Bush vs Clinton (if Rush ran)
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:29:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: milestn.48
Reply-To: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milestone R/D Labs, Milw. WI

In article <1992Apr8.041006.18452@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> aiesec@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (AIESEC - Ohio State) writes:
>It's to late at night to copy where this question came from, but in answer to 
>the previous post.  I honestly would vote Rush for President if he somehow ran 
>and had the backing of the Republican Party.

Rush would never do it, as Rush couldn't backpeddle.  Rush would also
have to deflate his ego a bit if he didn't win the election.  And 
such a delfation is a risk Rush wouldn't want to do.
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From: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: No murder of babies!
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:57:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: milestn.50
Reply-To: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Organization: Milestone R/D Labs, Milw. WI

In article <1992Apr12.000641.7869@news.unomaha.edu> KKRUEGER@Zeus.unomaha.edu (Kurt R. Krueger) writes:
>   I find this sort of response typical of those in the pro-choice camp.  They
>can't seem to face up to the fact that killing unborn children even up until
>the time of birth is murder, so they attempt to make fun of those people
>who do stand for life.  I, for one, fail to see any humor in killing the un-
>born.  I suppose killing is easy to reconcile when you have no concept what-

To be morally consistant on this you need to also not only support the
anti-abortion position, but also the anti-capitol punishment AND the
anti-war position BECAUSE killing IS killing.

Throwing 'God' into the equation is intresting.  In the 1400's the 
church allowed 'death by exposure' aka the baby was born and left 
outside to die.  And in 1967, the catholic church had no official 
position on abortion.  If the 'Word of God' is so written in stone
and the church is the offical interperter, then why the change?

And the final thing is there are a number of people who do not 
consider a first or even second trimester fetus human.  If something
is not human and life is stopped on that something, how can it 
be murder of a human?


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: Bryan Schroeder
Subject: About George Martin and his reviews/critiques of Rush
Organization: U of ILL
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:16:29 GMT

(Regarding George Martin's review of Wed, Apr 15 show summary)

Is this guy a blast, or what?!

It's hard to really get peeved at what he says, since he is so, well, bonkers!
His statements are laughable! Almost as good as Rush, but unintentially.

I must ask myself, is he really serious?

For example, Rush talks about how his future wife must know that he likes to
watch the NFL on Sunday. George responds, "Well, I like NASCAR." I think George
meant it as demeaning towards Rush. IT MAKES NO SENSE! Don't get mad folks,
laugh! It's so much more fun!

George talks about Rush's comments about Bush and the SR-71 Blackbird. George
obviously has never heard what this baby can do. The facts support what Rush
said. True, it won't make it's final approach to D.C. at Seattle when departing
from Edwards, but what if it took off from, oh, the Phillipines? It's a "big"
plane. I also heard that, at near full speed, if it was heading east, and
started a 180 degree turn over Texas, it would finish it in Canada. And yes,
I'm sure it takes more than one pilot to fly/navigate this baby, as George
can't believe.

Well, I guess I made my point. George, if reading this, don't stop posting!
Just put your name in the header. You really make a case for Rush's saying that
some people ignore the facts when they're against them, make them up, or since
they never heard it before, it can't possible be a fact. Luv ya, babe! :-}


P.S. I did not post this just because George is disagreeing with Rush. I love
people who argue in the face of reason and facts...NOT.

Bye, Y'all!
From: clmn@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Effects of Reagan Budget Defecits
Keywords: what
Date: 5 Apr 92 23:26:03 GMT
Reply-To: clmn@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago Department of Economics

In article <1992Apr3.222738.5417@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> aiesec@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (AIESEC - Ohio State) writes:

>
>I understand what you are arguing about, but wouldn't it be more productive to
>argue about how to avoid deficits in the future.  Unfortunately, this would get 
>us into the ugly area of placing blame which nobody wants to accept.  I DO 
>stand corrected when you state that not everybody agrees that the deficit needs
>to be cut.  If you insist on dwelling on the numbers then I will go on record
>as agreeing with 90% of your arguement, the difference being that I just plain 
>think it is bad economic policy to have continueous and large debt.  Since this
>is the first time on the history of the planet that this kind of a debt has 
>been ammassed I find waiting for its effects (if indeed there are any bad ones)
>dissheartening (sp?).
>

My answer is: Cut spending.  Wipe out programs.  Eliminate departments.  Put
tens of thousands of government employees back on the job market so they can
be productive.  I'm not being facetious.  My number one move would be to
abolish the Agriculture Department.  It spends billions to subsidize farmers
and to raise food prices.  There are dozens of federal activities which could
be wiped out and would enhance welfare, wholely apart from any beneficial
effect on the deficit.
-- 
Bill Coleman
From: steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: That little itty bitty march
Date: 12 Apr 92 11:42:46 GMT
Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway

Alex S. Crain writes:
>        The big question in my mind, though, is this: If 500,000
>people is still insignificant, how many people does it take to be a
>representative population? Would 5 million be enough (thats 2% of the
>US population)? 2 million, 1 million? Where exactly is that line,
>anyway?

It depends whether the individual making that judgement favors or
opposes the group in question.  8-)

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: em@nynexst.com (Edward Man)
Subject: Re: No murder of babies!
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 22:00:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.032936.2150@midway.uchicago.edu> clmn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Can't this discussion be moved to talk.abortion?
>
>-- 
>Bill Coleman

This discussion is probably more appropriate in talk.abortion.
But, it can't be avoided here. After all, this is alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.
How about changing the discussion about Rights, rather than
abortion? Come on, guys (PC terms are deliberately not used).

---
Ed
From: IO20371@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (John 1:42)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush's TV Show.
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:34:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92100.163412IO20371
Organization: University of Maine System

I'm just wondering-when will Rush's new TV show be on, and what station is
going to have it?  I'm a big fan of Rush, and am looking forward to it.
If you have any information, could you send it to:  IO20371@maine.maine.edu
Thanks, and Mega-dittos from Maine, where we have moose-and that's all!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush and the politics of envy
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:06:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: milestn.38
Reply-To: marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach)
Organization: Milestone R/D Labs, Milw. WI

In article <1992Apr3.152220.604@nynexst.com> em@nynexst.com (Edward Man) writes:
>don't get a raise, just like private corporations. The same applies
>to the President. Let's lump them together. Yes, it does sound like
>unionization, but what's the alternative.

Does anyone else find the idea of a polatition union a scary thought?

>As for the President, for the amount of responsibility that he has,
>I think he is underpaid. But given our "situation," I have no
>objection to leave his pay at the current level.

1) Compared to the salaries of some of the present CEO's in the US,
the pay IS low for the 'level of responsiblity'.
2) Compared to the salaries of most of the Japanesee CEO's the pay
is very good.  
3) 'Level of responsibility is a relative term.  George Bush is 
right now finger pointing at the congress. :-)
4) Our current 'situation'?  Give me a break.  If it would take
$5 million extra to get in someone who can work with whatever
congress is in to 'correct' the present 'situation', what kind of
FOOL would say , "Na, we won't pay it."


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: aiesec@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (AIESEC - Ohio State)
Subject: RESULTS of the Clinton vs. Bush Poll
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:17:27 GMT


Here are the results of the Bush vs. Clinton poll.

Forty people responded, and gave Bush the victory, which is expected.

   Candidate         # of voters   percentage

   BUSH                35             87.5%
   CLINTON              5             12.5%

It is interesting to note that I did recieve a significant, albeit small, 
number of people who refused to vote for Clinton or Bush and would have liked a
third party candidate.  The majority of them being more liberal.

Also, I think we all realize that this newsgroup is hardly a cross section of 
society, so liberals can take heart.  Also, the good news for conservatives is 
that they have proven that they like Bush one hell of alot more then they like 
Clinton.  My guess is that their protest vote against Bush extends its limits 
only within the party.  I recieved maybe one or two conservative messages at 
most, saying they would rather vote for Perot and none saying that they would 
vote for Clinton.

I will leave the rest of the analysis to the reader.

Ryan C. Scharfy
Buckeyestate Dittohead
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