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From: kenney@tribe.b17d.ingr.com (David Kenney)
Subject: Re: BUSH IS A NEO_NAZI! AND A LIAR
Reply-To: kenney@tribe.b17d.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, Alabama
Distribution: hsv
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:12:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.190025.3425@b11.b11.ingr.com>, lhughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep23.163431.12588@infonode.ingr.com>, kenney@tribe.b17d.ingr.com (David Kenney) writes:
|> > 
|> > I am against government run lotteries, at least for as long as those
|> > receiving government aid are allowed to waste such aid on them.
|> > 
|> 
|> Talk about a different result from looking at the same data! Starting with the
|> observation that there are some people spending welfare money on lotteries, my
|> conclusion is that they will waste that money on something else if lotteries
|> aren't available (perhaps non-governmental numbers rackets), hence the obvious
|> solution is to cut off all welfare payments. Then what David fears CAN'T happen.

Yes, I agree that ending (or at least greatly reducing) government welfare
is a goal I would like to see the government pursue.  I was hoping someone
would draw that conclusion from my statement.  (You were serious, weren't
you?)

Another reason I am personally against lotteries (although they shouldn't
be illegal, I don't like the government involved) is that they convey an
attitude that the only way to succeed in life is to get lucky and that
people should try to get rich quick.  This might sound too much like
"Family Values", but I'd rather see people thinking that the way to
better ones condition is through hard work and saving and that the real
way to get rich is to get rich slowly.

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From: lhughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes)
Subject: Re: best route(s) to Atlanta
Summary: for general interest
Keywords: advice
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 19:05:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.143620.8544@infonode.ingr.com>, james@brock.b17b.ingr.com (James Brock) writes:
> I need to know the best routes to Atlanta from
> Huntsville. E-mail, please.

Enought folks might find this interesting that I think I'll post it...

	Shortest Route Huntsville <-> Atlanta

Mile	Road		Town/Landmark

0	I  565E		Madison at Wall Triana (I565 becomes US72 past H'ville)
50	AL 35S		right just past Western Sizzlin
53	AL 40E		left just past bridge
67	AL 40E		thru Henagar
75	AL 117S		thru Hammondville (40 becomes 117)
77	AL 117S		right on AL 117S / US 11S
77	AL 117S		left on AL 117S / US 11S (Valley Head)
81	AL 117S		thru Mentone
87	GA 48E		GA state line (117 becomes 48)
92	GA 48E		thru Menlo
100	US 27S		right at Summerville
113	GA 140E		left about 13 mi south of Summerville
128	I 75S		right at Adairsville
175	I 285		Atlanta perimiter (up to YOU from here...)

0	I 75N		at I 285
47	GA 140W		left at Adairsville, exit 128
62	US 27N		right at end of 140
76	GA 48W		left at Summerville	
84	GA 48W		thru Menlo
88	AL 117N		AL state line (48 becomes 117)
94	AL 117N		thru Mentone
99	AL 117N		right at Valley Head (also US 11N)
99	AL 117N		left on 117N
101	AL 40W		thru Hammondville (117 becomes 40)
107	AL 40W		thru Henagar
122	AL 35N		right at end of 40W, just below bridge
126	US 72W		left just north of bridge
175	I 565E		Madison at Wall Triana (US72 becomes I565 at H'ville)



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From: Dee.Gardner@p0.f16.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dee Gardner)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: America 2000 school plan
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 19:31:17 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/16.0 - The D.L.D. BBS, Huntsville AL

 > Clearly the year round school is attractive to parent who
 > work
 > year round, but to parents like me; I am not for it...I
Leah, from what I have read of the year round school plan, it means that the school is open year round and rotates the kids thru on a different calendar so not 100% of the enrolled students are in school at the same time - hence smaller class sizes.  Also, there would be no 2+ month break, thereby theoretically cutting down on the # of weeks needed to "review" last year's material to bring students up to speed again.  I forget how the vacations are arranged as this article was in the paper a couple of mont
hs ago, but it did sound logical.
 
Yes, I will call SOON to talk about the 2000 program.
 
D 


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From: cottle@b11.b11.ingr.com (Tim Cottle)
Subject: Re: Hi-Fi Service
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: hsv
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:19:43 GMT

wiley@crooks.b11.ingr.com (Dave Wiley) writes:

>For those of you who, like me, have been disappointed with the quality
>of stereo repair in Huntsville there is a ray of light.  Hi-Fi Service is
>a fairly new stereo repair place located just to the south of Walmart on
>Jordan Lane.  I have had them fix two CD players for me recently and was
>impressed both times.  I might add that these same two CD players had
>been taken to Sound Distributors with much less pleasing results.


I would like to add that I also had a very good experience with Hi-Fi Service.
I had a Sony CD player with strange distortion in the right channel.  It 
puzzled the repair guys at Hi-Fi for several days ("Huh.  Never heard of
anything like that before."), and they thought fixing it would require a laser
replacement ($180).  After further testing, they decided the DSP chip was
bad and replaced that, and a companion component ($150 for both).  The service
was very nice, and the store owner personally birddogged the problem, including
getting Sony to FedX a part at their expense when Sony sent a wrong part on
the first attempt.  Apparently, both the store owner and his wife were senior
techs with Motorola in Austin before coming here.

  
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 |  Huntsville, AL  35894-0001         |                                    |
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From: Gary.Phillips@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Gary Phillips)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Scanner's
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 10:48:31 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Does anyone have any local scanner frequencys?
 



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From: Robert.Wood@f17.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robert Wood)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Don Dorsey
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 23:26:18 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/17 - NASAU Beach CBIS, Huntsville AL

-> The Switched on Bach series by Walter  ( since changed his/her 
-> name to Wendy ) Carlos.   She(/he) has a new one out, that is 
-> pretty good, but I caint remember the name of it.


     S-O Bach 2000?  I just picked that up last week.  Good, but most peices were a bit too strictly timed.  

REW



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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Sex ed
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92  0:53:53 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Why do you suppose your parents did not discuss sex with you?
Was it perhaps because of their upbringing? Do you think that
the notion of parent/child afterschool sex ed classes affords
the parental guidance and opens up a line of discussion between
the child and the parent? 
  I am not against sex Ed per se... I am against condoms in the
classroom. There is a clear definition here because I PERSONALLY
have read enough on the topic to feel assured that the Condom
alone is really very little protection at all. Perhaps if they
were to give the females spermicidal jelly or capsules which
contain Nonoxinol (sp) 9 and the condom then we would actually
be moving in the correct direction.
  My analogy still stands. Passing out condoms as "protection"
aginst aids is like playing russian roulet...30 out of every 100
will contract Aids or get pregnant or get some other STD using a
condom (Latex) alone. 
Leah "From Toney" Wesolowski

 

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From: Robert.Wood@f17.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robert Wood)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Condoms = Russian Roulet
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 22:06:01 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/17 - NASAU Beach CBIS, Huntsville AL

-> WOA, WOA, WOOOOAAAA!!!  Nice shootin' Tex!  Now put your emotions 
-> back in the holster for a second and go back a re-read my post.  
-> The statement which I made in jest was "Maybe this would make a 
-> good school science fair project".  Don't you get it?  All this 
-> talk about what to teach/not teach in school, science fair project 
-> about the effectiveness of condoms, Oh never mind, it's not funny 
-> if you have to explain it.  :-(


(1.  Actually, I agree that it would make a most excellent science fair project (hmmm... How many grade school students have access to an electron microscope... We sure didn't have them in Mississippi! :-) ).

(2.  Yeah, you did have to explain the jest part.  It is not at all clear which parts you intended to be in jest.  My origional response was simply to point out that "one point does not a trend make."  You obviously undertand that, so I found your defense of the data amusing.

(3.  Yeah, it was very nice shootin' on my part.  Of course, I wasn't the first to pull the old emotional "shootin' iron."  You're response to my post was dripping with condescension, which naturally fired my blood-lust.   :-)

-> What would your opinion of my analysis been if I had found pores 
-> in excess of .5 microns in diameter? That would have been rather 
-> conclusive evidence that the previously unfounded statements made 
-> by a few on this group were true.


     Of course not.  Sorry dude, but I learned about the scientific principle in early middle-school (or was that late elementry.... don't remember).  A single data point is worth less than the ink used to plot it.  The only time that such a finding would've been worth anything is if the hypothesis under test were something like "no latex condom has holes that big."  Even then, with only one test, it wouldn't have been possible to verify that the sample hadn't been mis-handled in such a way as to produce p
ores.  In case you haven't noticed, I'm a Falsificationist! :-)

-> Since you do not clearly understand or take the time to try to 
-> understand what you read, a flame fest would not be very 
-> productive.

     No, I merely didn't interpret your   origional comment about the possibility that it would make a good science fair project as being even slightly funny.  As I said, I like that idea.  I also fail to see how that type of study has anything to do with teaching the use of condoms or not (which you seem to think is so funny).  All I know is that, you posted an observation and, when I pointed out that that was nothing to base anything on, you get all huffy... 

REW 




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From: Lynn.Hollerman@f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Lynn Hollerman)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Voter Registration Info
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 16:23:13 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

 Here is some information about voter registration for the Nov. 3
 general election:

 If you are a resident of Madison county, you can register to vote at
 the county courthouse in downtown Huntsville, 4th floor, Room 417. The
 hours are 8:30am-5:00pm daily. If you're located closer to the city of
 Madison, there's a satellite office there for voter registration at the
 Hughes Pro Hardware, open from 8:30am-4:30 pm daily. Deputy registrars
 are also located at all branches of AmSouth, First Alabama, and Central
 bank in Madison county.

 If you have moved WITHIN Madison county recently and need to update
 your registration, you may contact the Office of Voter Registration by
 mail, but it is suggested that you call them at 532-3510 BEFORE Oct.
 23, 1992, with your new address.

 Oct. 23, 1992, 10 days before the election, is the LAST DAY to register
 to vote in Madison county for the November 3rd election. All persons
 having registered before or on this date will be included in the final
 poll list; however, those persons wishing to vote but not listed in a
 particular precinct may still vote a challenged ballot, provided they
 can provide proof of identity and residence.

 For any other questions about voter registration, please call 532-3510.

 Also, please watch the local papers for notice of voter registration
 drives at Kmarts, Wal-marts, and other locations...I'm not sure exactly
 when those will be held...

Lynn.


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From: Robert.Wood@f17.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robert Wood)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Clinton's draft record
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 22:58:14 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/17 - NASAU Beach CBIS, Huntsville AL

-> Newsweek says Perot will probably re-enter the race over the 
-> weekend. 


     Now THERE'S a vote for a really reliable candidate!  At least Bush and Clinton admit that they're running!


     Another interesting Perot note, remember when he dropped out of the race?  He cited two major reasons for dropping out...

(1.  It would upset the electoral system.  This hasn't changed.

(2.  The revitalization of the Democratic party.  If anything, they've picked up steam since then...

     Now he says no one is addressing the budget issue?  Hmmm... Has the "revitalized" Clinton changed his proposals since then?

     Anyway, I wouldn't even bother pointing this out to a die-hard Perot person, they wouldn't notice it. 

REW



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From: lowe@lowe.b11.ingr.com (Keith Lowe)
Subject: Re: AT&T Burgular Alarm System - Anybody get called yet ???
Keywords: Shields Technology, dinner time phone calls
Reply-To: lowe@ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:25:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.020559.11321@infonode.ingr.com>, wilson@infonode.ingr.com (Barry Wilson) writes:
|> I received one of thos all to familar dinner time sales calls 
|> last night.  This one was about the AT&T wireless burgular/fire/
|> medical system.
|> 
|> I have read about this type of system, and apparently it is quite
|> good, especially if you are away from your home frequently...
|> 
|> The question is, has anyone gotten this call yet ???
|> 
|> They want to come out to my home and demonstrate their stuff.
|> The company name is SHIELDS TECHNOLOGIES, and are located
|> in one of those suites at 3322 S Memorial Parkway.  You know the ones.
|> Their phone number is 880-1301, I think.
|> 
|> 
|> I will call the Better Business Bureau tomorrow to find our what is
|> going on with these folks.....

These guys called me up a few months ago and I agreed to hear
what they had to say.  They went over how great their system
is (and it really is) then hit me with the cost: ~$4000.00!
So much for that!  Anyway, he came down to $2600.00 before I
could make it clear that I just wouldn't pay that kind of money.

After I made it clear that I wasn't going to buy the AT&T
system, I find out that this guy is also in business with his
uncle selling another security system called Quorum which is
more in the $600-700 range.  It is pretty slick and works off
of something called "volumetric shock waves"; whatever, it works
great and I am very satisfied with it.  If you want more
information on this, send me some mail.

--
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System Software Development
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From: lhughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes)
Subject: Re: re-legalize drugs? (was Re: BUSH IS A NEO_NAZI! AND A LIAR)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:35:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.203818.3302@b30.ingr.com>, pat@fitz.b30.ingr.com (Patrick Fitzgerald) writes:
> "It is of more importance to the community that innocence should be
> protected than it is that guilt should be punished, for guilt and crimes
> are so frequent in the world that all of them cannot be punished, and many
> times they happen in such a manner that it is not of much consequence to
> the public whether they are punished or not.  But when innocence itself is
> brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will
> exclaim, 'It is immaterial to me whether I do well or ill, for virtue is no
> security.'.  And if such sentiment as this should take place in the mind of
> the subject there would be an end to all security whatsoever."
> 	- John Adams

Great quote, except that ethics to some people (including myself) are totally
independent of the government's behavior. Every April 15 the government shats
mightily upon me, and punishes me terribly for my efforts to not be a burden
to anyone, but the next year I continue to work hard, rather than become yet
another parasite. Regardless of how insane, rapacious, or cruel our government
behaves, I will not change my ethical standards. I may try to do things that
minimize the possible ways that the government can hurt or penalize me, but
not in any way that compromises my ethics, or that hurts me more than them
(like quitting my job and going on welfare). However, someday, I, and thousands
of other productive people, will have had enough, and will "stop the motor of
the world" (now which way is Galt's Gulch, again? Gettin' close to that time.)

> Somehow, Larry has divine guidance that tells him when someone is guilty,
		     ^^^^^^
> even before a trial.  Perhaps he has found his calling:

I think you have hit the problem squarely on the head - is Mr. Billings perhaps
a fundie? His intolerance, blind faith in the goodness of authority, and desire
to inflict his standards on everyone else are quite typical of such.

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> Prohibition ... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to
> control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things
> that are not crimes ....  A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very
> principles upon which our government was founded.
> 	- Abraham Lincoln

Another fascinating quote - from one of the greatest big-government statists 
of our times, and the quote sounds almost libertarian... Abe must have liked
to have his little snort, while planning the death of freedom and individual
liberty as we know it, and quite literally at cannon-point. Or maybe he was
drunk when he said it...

Larry "ashamed to have Big Brother Lincoln as one of my ancestors" Hughes
From: Ken.Shipman@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Ken Shipman)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Don Dorsey
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 15:43:36 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

The Switched on Bach series by Walter  ( since changed his/her name to 
Wendy ) Carlos.   She(/he) has a new one out, that is pretty good, but 
I caint remember the name of it.
 
\
Ken



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From: Robert.Wood@f17.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robert Wood)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Don Dorsey
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 21:15:56 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/17 - NASAU Beach CBIS, Huntsville AL



     For music buffs out there:

     Can anyone suggest any artists or titles of classical music done in the same style as Don Dorsey (Bachbusters and Beehtoven or Bust)?  Not the overly strictly timed "just do it with a synth
" crap, but good interpretations of older composers.


REW



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From: pat@fitz.b17d.ingr.com (Patrick Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: Foreign Films/NC-17 in HSV
Keywords: is it safe?
Reply-To: pat@fitz.b17d.ingr.com
Organization: Gizmonic Institute
Distribution: hsv
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:53:09 GMT

wiley@crooks.b11.ingr.com (Dave Wiley) writes:
>
>I rented Tie Me Up - Tie Me Down at Silver Screen in the mall at the
>corner of Airport and Whitesburg.  NC-17 really?  I would rate it about
>an R.  It was a bit strange, but not as kinky as the title would suggest.
>
>You might also try "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover" by
>Greenway.  Not for learning Spanish.  Just for a good, gut-level, obscure
>movie.

Also try "Sante Sangre".  I found it at Barry's on Hughes Road.  This is
one I have _no_ idea why it's NC17 (Tie Me Up had a sex/violence mixture
that might justify NC17, but Sante Sangre is pretty tame, just plain weird
and surreal).
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