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From: marv.bloom@rose.com (marv bloom)
Subject: Steiners etc.,
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:06:54 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-07-93 22:02
D :From: dave.scherer@darkside.gwinnett.com (Dave Scherer) 

D :As I remember, it derived from his goofball gimmick.  I always thought
D :that the headgear and the unmatching boots were kind of cool.
 
 The headgear is derived from Amateur Wrestling, wouldn't You agree?
Weren't both Brothers State Champions??

D :By the same token, I rarely lace my shoes.
 
  Hah, neither do I!
 
  Regards
   Marv
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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Suplex list
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:

JS>That would have been cage to mat. I believe Joe meant cage to arena
  >floor. I don't know if anyone's THAT crazy.

Matsuhiro Matsunaga has dove from a balcony before, not to mention been
set on fire and been slammed on a bed of nails, so I woul bet he is
sick enough.

I wouldn't put it past masao Orihara either.
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling Challenge D
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 23:11:25 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

dave.scherer@darkside.gwinnett.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:

> My favorite announcer is Akira Fukuzawa of All Japan, and I don't
> understand a word he says.  Then again, maybe that is why he is my
> favorite.  Seriously, he reminds me, in his love of wrestling, of Jim
> Ross back when he, and Watts, were on top of their game in the old UWF.

I like the Japanese announcers. In a tape of the first WWF Wrestling Summit 
(Hogan vs. Hansen, Savage vs. Tenryu), they basically sound like "Orgasm 
Man" from SNL. Every time there's an incredible move (like Tenryu's 
powerbomb, or Hogan's Ax-Bomber) their voices go up three octaves and they 
talk at a much faster pace. 
 
Again, I don't know what the f**k they're saying, but they get just as 
excited as the marks, which is nice when it's not McMahon... :)
 
--Don

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From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: Narcissus - We all KNOW who it is
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:03:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.182335.10378@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> awalsh@mta.ca writes:
>Gotta be Lex. Who else could possibly pull off being in love with
>himself? Who else DESERVES to be in love with himself? Christ, if
>I had a build like that, I'd carry around a mirror too. Can't
>be El StringBean, He's too nice plus he has the personality of a 
>piece of cheese. Jimmy Garvin? Oh yeah, Perfect would be cowering 
>in his boots. Oh no, Jimmy Garvin. Please, don't hit me with those
>Fists Of Stone(tm).

Ron Garvin has the Hands of Stone (yah right).

Jim Garvin is just non-worker who always seems to get an undeserved
push or title. (Now that Jim is WWF-bound, is he going back to his
"It's not my fault!" days?)


========================= Fluffy the Wonder Bunny ============================
 "You lost it! It's over! You blew it BIG MAN!"
		-Bobby Heenan on Hogan losing his title to The Undertaker
================== cadesjardins@descartes.waterloo.edu =======================
From: raoul@fangio.wa.com (Jeffrey E. Benedict)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: The Undertaker
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 04:59:52 PST
Organization: J. Benedict Computing
Reply-To: raoul@fangio.wa.com
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In article <1iaonsINN417@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> (rec.sport.pro-wrestling), ar389@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tom Perrine Jr.) writes:
> 
> Someone ll me The Undertaker's real name and his past history
> i have heard many diffrent names i want to know bad, please mail me at ar389
> as soon as see this and know the answer, and list any other WWF names
> Later
> 

There's a FAQ on this stuff.  As Arlo Guthrie might say, "Just wait
until it comes around on the guitar again..."

It's posted monthly.....

Jeff

P.S. Check your spelling before posting!

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Subject: Re: 1/4 Tokyo Egg Dome Show
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Pete Barlow... 'The Candy Guru')
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:56:35 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <86121@ut-emx.uucp>, eccd552@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Katsuhiko Kawai) writes:
> I just got an international phone call from my best friend. Here is the 
> complete results of the 1/4 New Japan Egg Dome show. 
> The tickets are said to be sold out (63,500!!).
> 
> New Japan vs. WAR Opening Battle:
> Akira Nogami & Takayuki Iizuka & El Samulai beat Kouki Kitahara & 
> Masao Orihara & Nobukazu Hirai when Iizuka KO'ed Orihara by a power-
> bomb.

Well, I guessed this one right... but then it was only a guess...

> Power Struggle of Eight Men:
> Shiro Koshinaka & The Great Kabuki & Masashi Aoyagi & Akitoshi Saito 
> defeated S.S Machine & Hiro Saito & Norio Honaga & Tatsutoshi Goto 
> when Kabuki pinned Honaga with a berry-to-back suplex.

I  didn't know about this one...

> IWGP Jr. heavy title:
> J. T. Liger pinned U. Doragon to capture the title with the Liger-
> Shutainer(sp?) (FS off the top rope.) Doragon missed the high-spots twice. 

Dragon must have been having an off night.   But Riger is  deserving.

> ????? match:
> R. Simmons defeated T. Holem with a spine-buster(? Nobody cares, 
> thoguh). No wonder the bathrooms were crowded.

Well, it was  supposed to be  a WCW title match, but since Simmons had  dropped 
the title  to  Vader  by then...  it ended up  being a filler, I guess.  All
the better... this group has given less than sparkling reviews of Tony Halme.

> Battle of Burning Stars:
> Sting pinned Hase with a top rope splash.

Darn, I picked Hase to  win that one...  oh well, I  guess I'll never be  as
good of  a predictor as Hack-Man is.

> Succeed to Fighting Spirit:
> Masa Saito(replacing A. Inoki) & S. Hashimoto beat S. Norton & D. Rhodes 
> jr when Hashimoto DDT'ed Rhodes.

I picked Norton and Rhodes... but then  that was based on  Inoki wrestling.

> IWGP tag title match:
> The Hell Lasers drew the Steiner brothers by a double counted out. 

Draw... humph.  Ah well,  it  was  more or less a given that the Steiners
wouldn't win.

> NWA & IWGP title match:
> Muta beat Chono to unify the world titles with the two consecutive 
> moonsault.

YES!

> Super Explosion:
> T. Fujinami defeated T. Ishikawa with the Doragon sleeper-hold.

Yeah, I think I picked Fujinami anyway...

> The Climax of Wrestling:
> G. Tenryu pinned R. Choshu after the two consecutive power-bomb.  
> After the match, Inoki showed up and got the biggest pop. Then, Inoki 
> challenged Tenryu. This match is supposed to take place in March at the 
> Egg Dome. I am quite sure that the tickets will be sold out soon.   

For Inoki-Tenryu...?   Yeah, a sellout looks imminent.  Although I'm  not an
expert on Japanese wrestling,  I know that those two guys are two of the big 
legends.

TCG, pb.
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: News
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:09:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

SH>From: Steve_Hooper@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Hooper) writes:

SH>BTW, I have been saving all the responses to my last couple of postings
  >about this group being killed etc etc and will reply to them as soon as I
  >get properly set up on a new system.  I have changed addresses and have not
  >been completely set up yet.  I HAVE recieved MANY interesting comments,
  >constructive criticizm, and pure hate mail and I found the whole thing very
  >interesting.

I, for one, am curious to hear this.  It is sad however that people have
resorted to hate mail.  You have every righjt to be clueless without
being threatened.
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From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Suplex list
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:47:54 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1993Jan7.023108.29851@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:
> How about the Superflex?

Could you describe the superFLEX?

I assume you meant the superplex. :-) I intentionally left it off because
it's nothing more than a vertical suplex from a turnbuckle. Most every
suplex on the list could be executed from the 2nd or top turnbuckle
(or even the apron to the floor for that matter) and the list would
just get much longer than necessary.

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Subject: Re: Chrispy House Show Review - WWF, Austin, TX  1/6/92
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Pete Barlow... 'The Candy Guru')
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:13:35 -0500
Distribution: na
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <86281@ut-emx.uucp>, chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios) writes:
> First of all, some background.  I went with my brother, James, and four
> friends of mine.  We had second row seats ringside, and I was too pumped.
> I had NEVER had seats that close for a house show, and I couldn't wait
> for it to start.
> 
> 1) Virgil vs. Brooklyn Brawler
> Actually, the announcer, Mike McGuirk, came out first.  Guys, if you 
> haven't seen her up close, DO SO IMMEDIATELY.  She came out in a royal
> blue tuxedo jacket with tails and black tuxedo pants, or so I thought.
> It turns out the pants were spandex.  WOW.  That woman is gorgeous.
> Too bad the tails covered up her posterior, because the front was
> promising.  (Hope I didn't offend any ladies out there.)        

You probably didn't... but then I won't be surprised at all if I start seeing
lust posts for Howard Finkel...

> Well, Mike announced Brawler first, and it was then that I realized that
> Austin is MARK HEAVEN.  Virgil got a pretty big crowd pop.  I sat there
> in total shock.  Meanwhile, my brother's yelling "Virgil!  The next
> World's Champion!!"

And he's HOW old?  17?  Save us...

> 2) Tatanka vs. Damien Demento
> 
> Mike hops back in the ring, and James and I go nuts.  "Ouch!  You're
> the main event, baby!"  Mike gives us a glance and a wink.  For the
> rest of the evening, we argue who it was aimed at.  (It was aimed at
> me by the way...)

Great.  I can see a future post on here being "CHRISPY GETS LAID!  CHRISPY
FOUND IN LOVE NEST WITH RING ANNOUNCER MIKE MCGUIRK!"

:-)

> Then Tatanka comes out, a slightly larger pop than Virgil.  My brother
> goes nuts, as he had bought a Tatanka foam tomahawk.  ($5)

He must have looked damn stupid...

> Meanwhile, my brother is acting really silly.  Various yells included
> "Do it for your people Tatanka!", "Tatanka, you're my IDOL!", and 
> "Go Buffalo!"  He then realized how hard it was to try to chant Tatanka's
> name.           

Go Buffalo?  Huh?  What'd I miss?  When did Jim Kelly start wrestling?

> After the match, Tatanka's giving the kids high fives when he passes my
> brother.  (Keep in mind he's 17 and about 6 feet tall.)  He sees my
> brother, backs up, and gives him a high five and a smile.  My brother
> was smiling the rest of the night.

Yeesh...

> Mike hops back in the ring.  More comments.  Another glance and a smile.
> God, I love these seats....  :) :) :) :)

I may wanna get that article I was talking about earlier together.

> The Headshrinkers come out to boos and the chant of "SST" coming from
> me and the smart marks behind me.  They see us chanting and give us
> a stare.  They can't smile, as it's not in the script, but they gave
> us a look as if they were saying "You know we can't acknowledge you, 
> but thanks for the chant." 

Hey, you got acknowledged.

TCG, pb.
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: Jimmy Hart etc.,
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:51:22 GMT

In article <C0r1y3.31M@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan) writes:
>In article <C0ptI0.I36@ns1.nodak.edu> skar@plains.NoDak.edu (Keith Skar aka Roddy) writes:
>>For the WWF Pay-per-view The Slammies, he did a version of Girls in
>>Cars....I wish I could find his version on one of the albums...He
>>did it very well.
>
>When they had the first Slammies, it was pretty obvious that all of
>the other singers were lip-synching and the band was just pretending
>to play.  For Jimmy Hart, the band was still faking it, but his mike
>was on and he was actually doing all of the singing.  I was impressed,
>because I imagine he had to go out of his way to be allowed to really
>sing since it would have been easier for everyone involved to have him
>lip synch like the other "singers."
>
>   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Was that really Jesse"Lee" Ventura  playing the piano on HUNKA HUNKA (HUNKA?)
HONKY LOVE?

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From: cs921037@ariel.yorku.ca (RON E BARNETT)
Subject: Re: My Starrcade predictions
Originator: cs921037@t04.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:06:17 GMT


In article <mjenkins.726017370@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>> In <mjenkins.725597408@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>> 
>> Last week I predicted:
>> 
>> >Rude over Simmons for WCW gold -- Simmons bad shoulder costs him the belt
>> 
>> Right injury, wrong person? Rude's bad shoulder costs him the belt. :)
>> 
>> Michael
>> Am I a prophet?

Actually, wasn't it Rude's bad back that cost him the title shot, not just his shoulder!!

Ron (Hoya me, chico!)
From: joepet@silvercornish.engin.umich.edu (Joseph L Petrow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Suplex list
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:43:44 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: joepet@silvercornish.engin.umich.edu


In article <3q45wB4w164w@jaflrn.UUCP>, Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
> joepet@lucky.engin.umich.edu (Joseph L Petrow) writes:
> 
> > I won't even ask about a cage-to-floor superplex.
>  
> Believe it or not, Joe, it's been done. And you won't believe that the one I 
> saw was from a cage match on SNME. Hulk Hogan superplexed Big Boss Man from 
> the top of the cage! I couldn't believe it myself, but both men were down 
> for a while. I don't know if that was a work or not.
>  
> --Don
> 
> (.sig deleted because it doesn't contain GENESIS!)
 
I saw this, and I was very much impressed like you.  However, I consider that
a cage to MAT suplex, and I referring to something from the top of the cage to
the OUTSIDE FLOOR!  Nothing I'll see in my lifetime, I'm sure.

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: the Rocket's big brudder
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 07:49:59 GMT


This is from a mark perspective, since that's the
target audience for the WWF product.   :-)

Does anyone else find it odd that Owen "The Rocket" Hart's
big brother is going to fight Razor Ramon for him?  (Odd?
In pro-wrestling?  Whoda thunkit.)  I didn't see the
attack by Ramon, but given the fact that Owen is a
pro-wrestler (hence all those matches in the WWF) I
really expect him to be able to fight his own battles.
Not that I don't want to see Ramon/Bret Hart matches.
It just seems odd to try to draw heat for them with
an attack on Owen.  Now maybe if Vince was planning
Hart Bros.  vs. Ramon/Flair, or something similar.

Tom
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From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika (Asst. Lab Supervisor))
Subject: Re: Narcissus - We all KNOW who it is
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:41:46 GMT

In article <C0CL63.AIy@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins) writes:
>
>Jim Garvin is just non-worker who always seems to get an undeserved
>push or title. (Now that Jim is WWF-bound, is he going back to his
>"It's not my fault!" days?)

I disagree a little here.  Back in his WCCW days his workrate was above
average and he drew excellant heat with the sharp dressed man gimmick.
Remember his feud with David VE? 
-- 
Dominic Macika

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From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Tapes for sale?
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:01:36 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1iop0nINNa9a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson) writes:
> When the first 'official' best of tape was put together by Herb, it
> was given a $25 price tag to discourage everybody and his brother
> from requesting a copy and overwhelming Herb.
>  
> I realize that it takes alot of work to put together a tape and dub
> a bunch of copies, but I think the $25 price tag is just a bit
> excessive.  What began as an attempt to provide some classic wrestling
> matches to people who dont have access, has become (seemingly) a get-rich
> quick money making scheme. $25 might have been ok once or twice, but I
> think supply and demand is getting real close to killing the market.

  As I posted a while ago when talking about tapes for the net, the 
  attempt to control requests was a failure.  As a result, were I to
  do another tape for the net, I would make the price cheaper.  

  I can't speak for others but my motives were just to spread around
  the material.  It's nice to make a little profit for all the
  hassles involved in the process but I didn't mean to set the s
  (high) norm for pricing.  I was worried about getting swamped if
  I only asked for $15 (remember, cost is about $12) and the people
  I was e-mailing with suggested increasing the price and picked 
  $25 as a "fair" price.  I guess this took into consideration the
  fact that I spent several months educating interested people about
  what I had to offer before they chose a ballot which was eventually
  voted on.  The "fair" price did not serve its purpose, though.

  I made the tape because I was asked and I would make another one if
  I were asked again I suppose, with the exact same (perhaps long-winded)
  processes involved.  But there's no way I would ask for $25.  Nope,
  open the floodgates and ask for $15.   

  With apologies to Dave & JoMOsh, 
                                                            Herb...   
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: House Show
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:51:37 GMT


   If anyone is going to the WWF show at the San Jose State Events Ctr.
on Jan 25, let me know, cuz I was thinking of going also. 

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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Suplex list
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 21:36:13 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

joepet@lucky.engin.umich.edu (Joseph L Petrow) writes:

> I won't even ask about a cage-to-floor superplex.
 
Believe it or not, Joe, it's been done. And you won't believe that the one I 
saw was from a cage match on SNME. Hulk Hogan superplexed Big Boss Man from 
the top of the cage! I couldn't believe it myself, but both men were down 
for a while. I don't know if that was a work or not.
 
--Don

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: M. L. CURLY 1/8/93 (spoilers)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:48:32 GMT

In <C0K7Bz.5HF@ais.org> hampton@ais.org (Kevin Podsiadlik) writes:

>Has Vince McMahon gone completely insane?

In short, yes.
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