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>Ollie Ollie North is free
>
And he oughta oughta shouldn't be ...

JAG
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From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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>        The beard isn't at issue.  It was last removed in approximately March
>        1972 -- whenever I had my last medical school interview.  And the
>        mustache has been in existence continuously since June 10, 1968
>        -- high school graduation day.

My mustache has been in continuous existence since October 4, 1968, so
you've got me by several months. The beard comes and goes. I was going
to grow one this winter, but I've been too darn busy. Bill
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: God and Dowsing

>Here's one for you: what do you think (uh, believe) about the Einstein-
>Podolsky-Rosen experiments of action at a distance with linked polarized
>light particles?
>
>G

Oh, really now.  Are we going to discuss that again?  I thought we worked this
out well enough the last time. First, there has to be a general consensus about
what exactly is a linked polarized light particle.  Even the three of them
couldn't necessarily agree.  Then, we have to assume that these particles do
indeed exist.  Certainly, some effects have been measured that could be
explained by LPLPs, but they are as hypothetical as black holes.  Rosen tended
to be very adamant that they indeed exist and claimed he had emperical evidence
to back his statement up, but no one has ever seen it.

Finally, none of the three could explain "action at a distance" except in the
vaguest and most hypothetical terms and again, they didn't really agree.
Einstein had the best definition which Podolsky later refined, but it is still
somewhat of a muddled concept.

Can we skip this old hobby horse and get onto something more interesting?

Chris
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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: My point
: originally had nothing to do with the validity of legislating anything, but
: concerned voting for something one could not in good conscience condone.
: England had laws for years banning sodomy - one guess how much good those
: laws did?  Sod all, from what I hear.  About as much good as speeding tickets

So why can't you in all conscience condone a physical expression of love
between two adults?  Is it just because of physical revulsion for an act
that you think is 'dirty'?  Done properly, it isn't.  I know several
*women* who rather enjoy it in fact.  Is it the act you object to, or
the people who do it?  Would you with good conscience condemn a heterosexual
woman for doing in private something that gives her pleasure?  If you
say yes, I'll concede that you're not as bigoted against gays as I perceive
you to be - merely small-town narrow-minded, which is quite forgivable.

: Legislation does not make it so......  I only wish it did.  But if it did,
: who'd need the law in the first place?   Child pronography is illegal as all
: get-out; does that stop it?  Discrimination based on race has been illegal
: here for *how* long?  Has it stopped yet?

I am of course totally traducing you by inferring that you equate an act
of love between to grown adults as being as heinous as deliberately
abusing children who can't defend themselves.  But if *all* your
analogies are consistently flawed, can you blame me for inferring
that you're a homophobic bigot?  Wait till the day you discover that
some close friend or other is gay.  Maybe even your minister...

G
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Posted on 12 Nov 1992 at 07:27:20 by samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU

>Bekka, you speak a context-free language. But I admit that the
>trick of getting directly to the point, and several unrelated
>ones, is, if startling, at least refreshing.

Tushar - is that x key of yours actixg up agaix ?

Toxy H.
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Nov. 22, 1963
              9 Nov 1992 16:21:33 EST from
              <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>

Older?  Rashmi, the president's always been older than I. :)

Dick Feagler, a local columnist, has reported that he's out of sorts
because for the first time, the President-elect is younger than he.

Evelyn
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	"Oh, just tell him to go rectify the lecture."

Why does this remind me of the Sinclair Spectrum?

G
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In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("Natalie Maynor") says:

>This return to the discussion of Presidents and Presidents-elect reminds
>me of something I had meant to ask or look up.  I read that Clinton will
>be the 3rd youngest President  in U.S. history.  JFK was the youngest,
>wasn't he?  That's not the question.  I threw in the tag question because
>I never trust my memory anymore.  The question I wanted to ask is who was
>the other President younger than Clinton.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
>
Teddy Roosevelt was about 41 when he became President, or maybe a year or so
older.  It think he was younger than JFK, although JFK was the youngest man
*elected* President.  
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>Nothing can equal driving into Philadelphia on I-95 from the south
>and careening through all those tangles of old ironwork bridges,
>speeding along on the worst interstate highway in the world.  It is
>an exhilirating experience, seeing the skyline looming up on the left
>while trying to avoid the potholes and enjoy the patterns of rusty
>iron lace hovering overhead.  I consider it a <peak> moment in <one>'s
>existence as a 20th century nomad.

	A splendid image of the decay that is the southern approach to
	Philadelphia.  It does look a lot better in recent years, now that the
	informal prohibition on building anything higher than Billy Penn's hat
	has been put to rest.  Problem is, now you can't see City Hall at all.

>Anyway, I am a skyline junkie.
>--ggs

	Ah, then come to Pittsburgh.  Paul Goldberger once described it as the
	only city with a 'grand entrance.'  Driving in from the airport, one
	travels on I-279 through industrial and commercial areas, winding up
	and down hills.  Then a swoop down into a moderately long tunnel and
	VOILA!  One emerges coming face-to-face with the Golden Triangle in
	full glory...Three Rivers Stadium across the beginning of the Ohio,
	PPG Place, USX Tower, and numerous other imposing structures across the
	end of the Monongahela, Point State Park, etc.

	Even better, IMHO, is the view from Grandview Avenue, atop Mt.
	Washington.  There, one can observe that same skyline standing
	eye-to-eye with the tops of the buildings.  And the drive down Sycamore
	Street afterwards...another adventure to be enjoyed in this fair
	'burgh.

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>> Well, Gilbert, apart from your first paragraph, I agree with you totally....
>> Surprised?
>> Carolyn
>
>You mean the part about all the <boring crap> of the past few days?

That's the bit I disagreed with...... there were a few 'pearls among the swine'
- just seemed like typical words-l to me. :-)

>Or the part about ruth against the heathens?
>Or the part about everybody expecting a pronouncement from me?
>In any case, I am not surprised.  I am pleased as paunch.
>--ggs (always happy to be <agreed with>)

I'm really pleased you're pleased..... but perhaps you should try walking for
that 'paunch'.... there's a gutbuster program in operation here at the moment,
perhaps I can send you details???

Carolyn (who lives in an area where 70% (official figure) of the men have
         a 'gut'. :-( )
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From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      a short crow
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Was there anyone keeping track of the vote predictions? I will briefly--all
so briefly--point out that I came within two of the electoral total, missing
only six states (I gave Ohio and Nevada to George, and Alaska, Wyoming, So.
Dakota, and No. Carolina to Bill). And my 45-37-13-5 was fairly close to the
final 43-38-19--this is inaccurate BTW, because apparently the other parties
haven't been counted yet, good for at least two percent, I'd imagine.

Didn't someone mention something about the possibility of a small prize?


                             blomberg cepeda
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Subject:      Re: Nov. 22, 1963

*** Resending note of 11/09/92 16:24


>disconcerting, she said.  Any wordslers feeling the same way?

Not I!

Don, who has a 43 year old step-daughter .... and a 15 year old one!
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1992, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Just thought I should let you know that I'm jealous that Giggles responded
> enthusiastically to abh's offer of a tickle to stimulate him but ignored
> my suggestion that he hop in the Miata and cross the Smokeys.  I'm here,

It's not the meat, it's the <motion>.

-abh
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Subject:      Presley's ancestral abode

Greetings,

Today I had the signal honor of receiving a postcard on an architectural
theme from Natalie and Judith.  Said postcard, emanating from Memphis,
depicted the humble dwelling place in which the King Himself was raised in
his early days.  It seems to me this postcard took longer than one might
have expected to make the journey.  Perhaps awestruck mail carriers at
points in between felt the need to hand it around from one to another,
caress it, place it for a few hours on the mantle, take it home to show the
kids, etc.

In any event, it now abides with me, and takes an honored place next to those
previously received from steely-eyed Dan.

Marty
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Choosing the appropriate insult...
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Cross references:
  1. enmity

an.i.mus \'an-*-m*s\ n [L, spirit, mind, courage, anger] 1: basic attitude
   or governing spirit : DISPOSITION, INTENTION 2: deep-seated hostility :
   ANTAGONISM

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet)"
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Subject:      Church/State re-visited

Steve--I strongly share your discomfort with school policies or court
decisions that disallow voluntary groups, such as religious groups, to
form after-school activities on school premises.  If schools are to
fullfil their mandate to develop students in multiple spheres of their
lives and to provide mechanisms for integrating these multiple spheres
into their lives, then it would seem they fail their mandate when they
bar such groups.  To bar one group risks the slippery slope in which
others are barred. I don't recall the case, but in one, the courts
ruled (if I recall correctly) that a school policy barring voluntary
religious organizations from meeting would be ok if was non
discriminatory, so officials simply barred all groups.  I don't recall
the final outcome of it all, but the point remains that a slippery
slope is dangerous terrain.  Policies and laws that threaten one group
that may not be be perceived as sympathetic can readily be applied to
others.  RICO is one example. As are recent anti-computer abuse state
and federal laws that are often excessively broad.
From: TWILD@URIACC.URI.EDU (Theresa Wild)
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>No Theresa, President Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22nd, 1963.
>
>Carolyn

 Well, I was only 2 at the time, and I just can't remember that date!

Theresa
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>I didn't glean it, because I knew about it.  In Japanese baseball,
>it is used thus: 'tekisasu sei no hitto' (hit of Texan nature).
>Japanese baseball terms are a mixture of English, Japanese English
>and Japanese.

	Interesting...  So you think Texans are weaklings whose idea of hitting
	a baseball involves flailing ineffectually and getting lucky?  And our
	soon-to-be-ex-President calls himself a Texan...  Hmmmm...

> 4) Packwood/AuCoin (Neal)

	Robert Packwood, Republican Senator, was re-elected narrowly over Les
	AuCoin, Democratic soon-to-be-ex-Congressman.  This was one of those
	unfortunate races where two good people were running and one had to
	lose.  Too bad we couldn't keep both and get rid of (among many others)
	Alphonse D'Amato, sleazy Republican Senator from New York.

>17) Paul Goldberger (Gilbert)

	Actually mine -- he's the architecture writer/critic for the New York
	Times.

27) SEPTA/PATCO (Neal)

	South Eastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority
	Port Authority Transportation COrporation

	SEPTA is the regional transit company for Philadelphia and its
	surrounding counties in Pennsylvania.  PATCO runs commuter trains
	between Center City Philadelphia and its New Jersey suburbs.  I took a
	SEPTA Regional Rail train (the R5 line, in case Steve is interested)
	from Doylestown, Bucks County, to Market East ($4.25 oneway) and then
	walked a block or two to the PATCO station at 8th and Market for the
	trip to New Jersey ($1.60 oneway).  That brought me within about a mile
	of my parents' house.

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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:06:00 PST, "Lobstrosities Unite" <CHRISS@CWU.BITNET>
 wrote:
> ...
> Finally, none of the three could explain "action at a distance" except in the
> vaguest and most hypothetical terms and again, they didn't really agree.
> ...

Almost the exact answer I would have given, Chris.  I just wanted to see
if Mr SuperSkeptic stuck to his principles, or would take that particular
one on faith because it was proposed by 'respectable scientists'.

The whole of quantum mechanics smacks of black magic to me :-)

G (seduced by the Many Worlds interpretation, but afraid it's probably
not true)
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Subject:      RE: Before anybody points it out...

>I know.  What I said about Clinton and Indiana while ago was based on
>*very* early, *very* incomplete returns.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Sure was.  On the other hand, the Polish press was reporting Indiana for
Clinton for weeks.

-K

-Mka
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In a previous article, CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu () says:

>Greetings,
>
>I've been seeing allusions to this Anne Rice person.  I don't understand her
>appeal.  I read a couple of her books a few years ago when I was feeling
>poorly; they didn't help me recuperate.  Of course, I have little patience
>with sentimental, long-winded, formulaic writing (unless it's my own, of

Well, she does come up with a good quote now and then.:-)  Those vampire
books aren't anything to hand to someone who's already sick, though.
Too yecchy.:-)  She did write a fun one about a mummy coming to life, though -
called _Ramses_ or something similar.  

>Tonight I saw F.W Murnau's silent film, *Nosferatu*.  Striking and
>thought provoking.  I guess it's from the 1920s, but I'm not sure.  Highly
>recommended from this quarter,if you have a decent video store in your town.

I think it was released in 1927.  ANother good one from back then is
Metropolis; even the colorized version is worth a gander.  

>Other recent favorites:  Hitchcock's *The Lady Vanishes*.  The Japanese film
>*Tampopo*.  *Charlie Chan at the opera*.
>
How about *The Man Who Knew Too Much*?[original version]  

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>>Bekka, you speak a context-free language. But I admit that the
>>trick of getting directly to the point, and several unrelated
>>ones, is, if startling, at least refreshing.
>
>Tushar - is that x key of yours actixg up agaix ?
>
>Toxy H.

I really meant context-free languge. It's a term used for replies
to emails which don't quote or in any way refer to what they are
replying to.

tushar

PS My first reaction was to say "NONONONONO!" but I checked the
   impulse.
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>                              The Aaron episode was distasteful.  The
>Project H mess was worse.  This weekend is the worst of all.

I'd put it this way: the Aaron episode is the oldest of the three. The
Project H mess was more recent. This weekend is the most recent of all.

There is one thing I learnt, and I'd like everyone to try it. Next time
something erupts, just say to yourself that you don't give a sixth of a
damn. You aren't going to join in or even see the postings, no matter how
tempting it is, no matter how flamey or how reasonable they are, regardless
of whether they are the most excitingly aggressive OR (yes) voices of sanity.
Just decide you are going to delete them unread and not going to air any
opinion whatsoever. Then when the standard pronouncements of "worst ever
war" and predictions about the list falling apart start coming in, you
won't know what the hell they are talking about. Believe me, that's a
great feeling.

I speak from experience.

tushar
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1992 16:07:24 EST Karen Kay said:
>So does Carpal Tunnel Syndrome run as rampant on this list as it does it
>my workplace?  I never had any problems before, but all of a sudden this
>weekend I could hardly move my wrist. And now I'm finding out that about
>a third of my colleagues suffer from this problem.
>
   I had my wrists cut in December of 88.  Best thing I ever did.
They went to hell in 4 months....compounding, IMHO, of LOTS of keyboard
time and cutting and splitting some ten cords of wood with a BIG chainsaw.
I got it done when they not only were numb most of the time, but started
sending phantom nerve pains up my arms and shoulders and waking me with
screaming pain at 3am.

dan
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