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From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: [was] How long for a DOD #?? [now] Harley & Batteries
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 21:16:20 GMT

>HD dealer in Pasco, WA and picked up a new battery.  The parts people there 
>told us that battery failures on the Softail models (i.e. rigid mounted 
>engines) are fairly common. He speculated that the vibration from the engine
>broke the welds that connect the plates to terminals. I'm no expert, but it
>makes sense to me.

     The English made battery that came in my '54 Velocette held
up very well, and that bike made any Harley twin seem as smooth
as a Marmon V16. If breaking welds is the problem, I expect to
see similar problems on the dual use "enduro" bikes, especially
the 400+cc singles. Can anyone verify this?

     This seems to be a fairly recent problem, indicating a change
in the manufacturing process. Maybe we should all start writing to
our favorite battery maker demanding that they shape up.


Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        "Sony, if you don't fall on yer ass once in a while,
         you aint ridin' fast enough"
                        Grandmother, to Ed Kretz, 1946
=====================================================================


From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:50:36 GMT
Subject: Re: R100GS final drive trouble
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

> 
> John Howard Osborn (osborn@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
> : They told me:
> :  - Go for a long (50mi+) ride every once in a while
> :  - Think about changing the drive fluid more often than the
> :    manual suggests
> : 
> : Comments?
> 
> how about go for longer rides or change fluids more often?
> what's wrong with that advice?
> 
> -- hesh

It's good general advice but uh, it doesn't go for the root cause.

I must be more suspicious than average but I doubt that this is 
just "normal water accumulation"

Ron Miller

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: GTS1000A gripe
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:12:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: rd.1992Nov10.161236.532
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division

In article <1992Nov9.231632.19354@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>
>  I guess the Fisher-Price luggage I saw on a certain FJ1200 at the Joust
>was just a figment of all of our imaginations...  (Hint: you're wrong, Jody).

My, my, the gods are testy today. At least, now, I have an excuse to take my
mortal self for a closer look at the FJ in the window of a local shop. The 
Radian is getting old. Do I hear some piston slap...

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY)
Subject: Re: Results of make your own Electric vest
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:46:40 GMT

In article <1340@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>
>	What were the results of making your own electric vest...Is it
>	feasable??  what about making handle bar grip heaters???  A
>	heated saddle?
>
heated saddle yes, just put a can of sterno under the seat.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss)
Subject: Re: hot/cold spark plugs
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:24:44 GMT

>What is the difference between a hot and a cold spark plug?  
>What I mean is what makes a spark plug hot or cold.

As I understand it, a plug's "heat range" is determined by the length
of porcelain insulation on the plug.  Plugs with identical letter
designations having different numbers are the same plug, but in different
heat ranges.  

  For example, my '89KX250 requires an NGK BR9ES or something
like that, but I use an NGK BR8ES in it.  The '8' is a hotter plug than
the '9' because it has less ceramic insulation along its' length.  Don't
know about street bikes, but in the dirt bike world, running a '1 hotter'
plug is loosely analogous to putting 1 size leaner main jet into the
carb, and is usually deemed as a half-baked solution to an improperly
jetted carb.

-Tim Seiss
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From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: high mileage
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:02:38 GMT

In <berck.721562461@cs.rulimburg.nl> berck@cs.rulimburg.nl (Peter Berck) writes:

>>I've got 25K on my Magna(V-4 engine) and haven't had a lick of
>>trouble to date . . knock on wood.  I'm in a position now where I
>>can put 1000+ miles on it a month . . . and it seems to shrug the miles
>>off with no problems . . . of course, keeping it maintained helps, too! ;-)

>Bleah, I've 88000km on my cx500 and she's just broken in (is that the
>correct expression, whatever), so there.

Hey, don't they call them maggots in England?


>-Peter (Keeper of the Divina Commedia)

__
   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous








Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Subject: Re: Motowear Suit (Was: Re: Alternative uses for Aerostitch)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 06:44:41 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1328@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:
>: In article <1992Nov5.225521.14325@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>: >In article <1dc22eINNda7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>: >>I finally received my latest addition to my wardrobe, a red and black
>: >>Motowear suit.  It's similar to the Aerostitch, but $300.00 chaeper.
>: Could you post a good description of the suit? I've got an
>: Aero, and love it, but I'm lookingfor a cheaper suit for my
>: (passenger) wife.
>
>	She's not worth the cost of an Aerostitch???
>
>				Ryan
>

She's a passenger for ~20% of my mileage. A $400 riding
outfit is more appropriate for summer weekend rides than a
$600 suit, and either provides more protection than jeans.
Besides, she objects ot the Aero "spacesuit" styling for
herself--I've offered.

----
Mark Bergman		'77 KZ1000
Brooklyn, NY
718-855-9148

bergman@panix.com
{cmcl2,uunet}!panix!bergman
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From: hur@oclc.org (Matt Hur)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: advice on gear
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:35:18 GMT

Alan Fleming (alanf@eng.tridom.com) wrote:
: About three months ago, I posted a list of gear I was hoping to buy
: for my bike.  Now that I've had the time to purchase the items and
: use them, I thought I'd give a quick write-up.

... info about loads of new toys for his bike...

: That looks like everything.  Gotta love those loans, they make spending
: money seem easy.
: 
: Think Peace.
: -- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
: KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J)  AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210

Alan, it looks lie you're well on your way to posuer status! :-)

If you ever look at another tank bag, check out the Motoport magnetic bag.
It is just like a BMW bag; however, instead of having the harness permanently
attached to the tank, it is magnetic.  It does not have a rain cover :-( , but
I'm thinking of getting an eclipse cover if it will fit.

As a general request, I'm interested in peoples opinions on boots.  I 
personally have problems, because I have big calfs.  I'm specifically
requesting info on boots for sport/touring.

Matt
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Matt Hur        hur@sporty.col.oh.us (best bet)
       #209           osu-cis!colnet!fssun10!hur(might work)
   FJ1200, CX650C
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: MotoWear Aerostitch clone (Was: Re: Alternative uses for Aerostitch)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:02:35 GMT

In article <lilliott@foo.bar.lost-it.edu>, Scott queries:

>>John!  Let everyone know! Is the Motowear REALLY as good as an Aero? quality?
>>weight? strength? Can you give details of construction? colors? padding &
>>reinforcements?

Motowear has an ad in this month's Cycle World (incidentally, it has a man and
woman in it, the man wearing a "Future Suit" while astride the Ducati 851, the
woman standing next to him with a very large breast nearly spilling out of her
open suit-top).  The toll-free number for further information is 1-800-
333-3155.  In no particular order, the ad mentions:

*water resistant
*flow-through venting
*body of Cordura nylon
*machine washable
*Kevlar on all impact areas
*CoolMax lining
*Kevlar thread
*reflective back
*suggested retail only $349

In my subjective opinion, it looks like an Aerostitch with fewer pockets and
less room for very large breasts.  Also, no reflective stuff at the ankles or
on the chest, nor any mention of padding along with the Kevlar at the impact
areas or the denier of the nylon.  Give 'em a call if your curiosity is
aroused.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          '92 Seca II (Tem)       |
|                                                                          |
|      3 oz leather      86'  0"    Kevlar               22'  1"           |
|      Cordura Nylon     18'  3"    Denim, 2 year old     4' 0.5"          |
|      1.75 oz leather    4'  4"    2.25 oz suede         4'  3"           |
|      Denim, new         3' 10"    Ballistic Nylon       3' 10"           |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: what is Too Much Power?
Keywords: this is not bait
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:15:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: rs6000.1992Nov12.161554.16956
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Nov11.211603.21221@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>
>I'm not so sure I want to take the RZ350, though.  No radiator fan. . .
>Do you MSF instructors out there think they would give me any special consideration
>on the range exercises, for this bike?
>
If you get in a class with other riders who require only minimal coaching you
won't have to wait as long.  :')

Chas
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: Re: Break-in (what is it?)
Organization: NASA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:09:20 GMT

In article <BxAusr.Ht2@fulcrum.co.uk> rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>
>Er, isn't it horses you break in and vehicles you *run* in, or is this one
>your US cute 'lil colloquilisms ?

Following in the same vein,

Do you "step in" new shoes?
Do you "clench in" new gloves?
Do you "sit in" new pants?
Do you "pay in" a new wallet?
Do you "flick in" a new lighter?
Do you "head in" a new helmet?

If it is correct to "water" your horse, do you "milk" your cat?

Tom Gent
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: DoD bananas
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 21:43:46 GMT

In article <4138@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.100835.90507@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>>
>>        Arnie, you're slightly off the mark. We don't want DOD Bandanas,
>>we want DOD Bananas. Think about it.
>
>Take your average banana, remove the Chiquita sticker, slap on
>a DoD sticker, and wala!  Just don't use it for a headband.

Extra credit if you wear a Carmen Miranda helmet at DoD nominal speed...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: Bikers
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:16:21 GMT

In article <1dril1INN3vd@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>
>Here comes another idiotic post from some .com idiot.  It take real brains
>to insult somebody because of they're mailing address.  What kind of
>shit-for-brains idiot are you for that?  Have you paid your Nazi dues
>recently, or are you a patron member for life by default?
>
>Anyone know where a BSME can get a job?  Available 1/93.  This is for real!

Well, well.  Here goes a guy spouting off at the mouth about .com addresses.
And what does he want?  a JOB.   hee hee.  Better stay in school kid, with
an attitude like that it may be a loooooooong hunt.

(and of course I wouldn't think of cross posting this to the recruiters
 mailing list, would I ;-)

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:13:30 GMT
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University

In article <BxMpCx.Ez4@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>Which part of your hand do you use for most jobs: the palm, or your fingers?

	Take it easy, I've got a girlfriend...!

	Seriously, I like to be able to take my helmet off, get change,
	get money (if I had any) from the cash machine, etc. etc. without
	having to take my gloves off (although I guess I could still get
	cash with full gloves). The impression I get is that any fingered
	gloves that are light enough to still allow these actions are only
	going to give me very marginal protection and I would prefer heavier,
	fingerless gloves that would at least protect my palms.

>Yes, lightweight leather gloves work.  When a student didn't do what I told
>him to during an exercise and dumped his bike, the glove was torn in 3 places
>but his hand wasn't even scratched.  I also have personal experience with the
>Tour Master lightweight gloves (incident described in old post involving
>used motor oil in an alley...) and in bicycle racing.  Any leather is better
>than no leather.  If you still insist on riding fingerless (think about it!!)
>go to a bicycle shop or to a sporting goods store catering to weightlifters.

	I'm thinking, I'm thinking. Ouch, my brain hurts...
	
	I'll see how I feel after this winter (it's pretty much full finger
	glove time anyway).

>Protective gear works by self-destructing to save your body (most, anyway) in
>what my CI calls "the harsh realities of life".  If you aren't protected
>because of style, fogetfulness, or whatever, you lose skin when you hit the
>ground.

	I know this is all a rationalization on the fingerless gloves. I still
	claim to myself that if I hit the asphalt at high speed I'll be able
	to get myself *off* my ass and onto the leather parts of my chaps.

>CP Tomes

	Hmmmm....

-------
"Don't believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."  -  Lou Reed
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- Perception Corsica  |  NYC, NY.  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alex@lyra.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews)
Subject: Test your knowledge
Originator: alex@lyra
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:55:37 GMT

Extra credit questions:

The temperature is 45 deg F, the barometric pressure is 30.01, the wind
is from the northwest at 10 mph, and the moon is nearly full.  You ask
the Indian rider how many kicks it will take to start his bike.  He
answers:

   a. one.
   b. a few.
   c. a few after that.
   d. as many kicks as there are stars in the sky.
   e. *puff* *puff* Get away from me, dammit!

The bike starts in how many kicks?

   a. one, not including the preliminary kicks.
   b. up to an infinite number.
   c. it was too dark to tell, and besides I lost count.
   d. I left the party before then.
   e. with or without countersteering?
-- 
-Alex Matthews (alex@lyra.colorado.edu, matthews@jila.bitnet)
DoD #0010   
"Occasionally we may try to reroute you briefly onto a particularly
beautiful side road...." - Numerical Recipes
From: bruce@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Space Oddity
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:16:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxnzzE.53v
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>(Think of the Guzz as a proud BMW R-bike -- It holds its heads up)

   *******

   *blort!*  more like a beemer with its 'jugs' in a push-up bra...
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:32:21 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]However, Colorado yesterday enacted a new state constitutional amendment
]enforcing discrimation against gays and lesbians.  I will, therefore,
]not be spending any money (and therefore) time in the state.  

I would think you would want to go there to join those that would apply
pressure to the legislature to get rid of it. 

]If you live in Colorado, I'm sorry.  I encourage you to fight from
]within or to just leave.  

if all the motorcyclists in California "just left" when the helmet law was
passed then DICK floyd would still be around, looking for other groups of 
people to legislate against.

]It is sad that what is clearly one of the most
]beautiful states in the union has adopted such a horrific position.

it's probably more sad that the governing body of colorado probably worded
the ballot so as to confuse anyone who didn't take the time to read it
carefully. they'll stay in power if they can keep the people ignorant.

]But, if the events of the last century have taught us anything, it is that
]such outragous violations of human rights and dignity must not be allowed
]to stand.  I intend to fight like hell.

but from a safe distance it appears. I bet you'd have more luck attacking
the problem at the source rather than yelling at it from neighboring states.

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: Loud pipes: get some perspective
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:02:43 GMT

jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette) writes:

>In article <1992Oct29.003532.190@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>>
>>Ok Ed, bottom line:
>>
>>The central point of my argument is the assertion is that the level of
>>sound produced by a loud motorcycles are no louder than the level of
>>sound produced by other vehicles that are tolerated by the public on a
>>daily basis.  Because this sound level is accepted by the general
>>public it is not excessive.
>>
>>You've attempted to avoid this point in your last two postings by
>>trying to bring the weight of the vehicle into it.  The weight is
>>totally irrelevent to the effect of the sound produced.  It has
>>nothing to do with whether or not you will hear the vehicle and how
>>loud it will sound.
>>
>>Either state an argument to refute my assertion or sit down and quit
>>your whineing.
>>

>I have NEVER ridden behind a vehicle (truck) that has annoyed me as much
>as riding behind a loud bike.  Perhaps the bikes make more noise.  Seems
>like it to me.  I don't know the dB levels.   Now, the shit spewing out the
>back at me is another story.

>Jim Bessette


  One point here:

  Bikes exhausts point back towards the people behind you

  Truck exhausts (generally) point up, or up and back and as such any
noise created cannot be compared to that made by a bike because they come from
different sources.  Even if the db's measured at the exhaust is the same, the
truck will (generally) not sound as loud to someone standing behind it.

-Matth

--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The last one of its kind ?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 22:43:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 26649@megatek.com, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
>In article <k21701.720964202@kyyppari> k21701@kyyppari.hkkk.fi (Teppo Nieminen) writes:
> [basic human reaction time = walking, not 180mph]
>| IMHO, the limits of superbikes will not be found in technology, but in
>|the riders. Too much capacity for the average Joe has a lethal potential.

I disagree.  I believe we shall see technology "harnessing" the
ever-increasing "power" if the bikes.  Look at jet aircraft as an
analogy.  As the flood of information, and the demands of physical
control, became to great for our ape-brains to handle, we developed HUD
and AI to help sort out the data, and fly-by-wire to help on the
physical end.

Another similarity is the very real fact that our brains don't work
will in binary, but massive increases in computing power allow us
develop more intuitive human interfaces.

There's no reason not to expect the current "limit" to migrate from the
user to the bike.  Look at ABS.  For *most* average riders, the "limit"
of stopping power is achieved through grabbing a handfull of brake, and
letting the *machine* set the real limit.  Even for those of us that
can outbrake ABS, the systems will improve to the point where we
can't.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mechanic's challenge
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:36:04 GMT
Expires: 30 Nov 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <HK2SBNZ3@cc.swarthmore.edu> fetter@forum.swarthmore.edu (Annie Fetter) writes:
>BTW, I never did tell y'all about my quick jaunt to Vermont and back this
>July, did I?  And now that I have a new rear tire and new brake pads, FJ
>has been goin' great guns!  Did anyone ever tell y'all what a great bike
>this is?  Lots of leg room, too :-)
 
Annie - You haven't told us much of ANYTHING for many moons - care to bring 
us up to date on where you've been and what you've been up to?  You mention
a trip to Vermont...and hint at a couple other things.  Care to expand upon
that or are you going back to lurking again?

>	-Annie "Chuck" Fetter

Rich


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
1977 750 Triumph Bonneville                 (617) 275-1800 x 4173
"Fear not the evil men do in the name of evil, but heaven protect
 us from the evil men do in the name of good"
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