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From: nealg@pokey.sybase.com (Neal Goldsmith)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:27:41 GMT

In the list CHLDC Catalog I noticed this as Pelham 1-2-3 on LD. This
is a movie that I have only seen on TV and enjoy. My hope was for a better
transfer then the junk that late night TV runs.

I was very surprised to find that it is an MGM "Deluxe Letterbox Edition"!
Excellent tranfer, a few minor sound problems, very, very clean picture.

I used some of my "Dividend Dollars" and got the disc for $17.49.

I am really surprised by how many films MGM/UA is releasing LBX from
good original material.

As for the catalog, I am finding discs in it that I am not seeing at the
stores. The only problem being that the catalog is not clear about what
is LBX and what is not.

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From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Re: TR200 - initial review
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 16 Nov 1992 16:59 EST  

In article <1e8hajINN398@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, swk@east.sun.com (Steve Klosterman - Sun BOS Hardware) writes...
>This weekend, my wife and I purchased a Sony TR200 handycam.  This is our 
>first camcorder, although we've used older VHS machines before.  We compared 
>the TR81, TR101 and TR200 using the 81 as our model to beat.  I have some 
>questions at the end that I'd like more experienced owners to comment on!
> 

  <<much deleted>>

>So, how do we like it?  OK, not blown away.
> 
>My previous, infrequent experience is with a 6 year old VHS unit.  I was 
>expecting Hi8 to be "breath-taking", AFM sound to be "stunning", colors and 
>quality to be substantially better than my older tapes.  Hooking it up to my 
>Sony XBR television and stereo, our initial tapes were disappointing.  
> 
>1. Under low-light conditions (indoors), the picture is very grainy.  Perhaps
>	I'm expecting too much from Hi8?  I tend to believe that the difference
>	in lux ratings is marketing hype.  There was a noticable 'reddish'
>	tint to indoor shots.

  The low lux rating implies that the camcorder's ccds are sensitive enough 
for video to be recorded.  It doesn't imply an absence of grains.  Even 
film at low light levels will look grainy.
  And no, the lux rating is not marketing hype.  I cannot record an image 
with my 25lux camcorder in light less than typical room light; unless I turn 
the gain up to 18dB, of course, which results in a grainy image.   

> 
  <<delted text>>

>Do *all* of the small camaras exhibit similar symptoms to these?  
Yes, as far as the low light recording is concerned--regardless of format.

> 
>I'm going to live with this camara for a week, decide what I can live with
>and what really bugs me.  My tendency would be to move up to the TR101 rather
>than down unless the TR81 genuinely solves the annoying things.  
> 
>Steve K


Greg
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Universal Remote
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:14:57 GMT

>Any suggeations - pro and con on pre programmed and programmable remotes?

I've yet to see one with a shuttle and jog.
From: kimd@gizmo.usc.edu (Kim Daugherty)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Sony TR-81 vs. Sony FX710
Date: 16 Nov 1992 12:01:38 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gizmo.usc.edu


I was all set to mail order a Sony TR-81 from Computability ($889 including
shipping), when I saw an ad from Silo advertising a Hi8 camcorder that I had
not heard of, the FX710.  Does anybody know how this compares to the TR-81?

Also, is there a better mail-order price for the TR-81 than $889?  How about
a good mail-order price for the FX710?

-- 
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| Kim Daugherty                   | PhD program in Computer Science   |
| kimd@gizmo.usc.edu              | University of Southern California |
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar)
Subject: What one to buy(Vidiocamera)
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:31:49 GMT

WHat would be a good choice in a camera(VHS  VHSC 8mm )?
the camera would be used most of the time just for home movie making and
recording some old 8mm film to vidio.
Any brand and model reccomendations welcome.
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From: bruce@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bruce K. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: TR81 - red bleeding
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:13:00 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Hello all

I have noticed that my TR81 seems to have trouble in daylight sometimes with
the reds --- they start to bleed out toward the right side of the screen.

What causes this and has anyelse had the same results?  I've noticed that if
set the shuttle speed to a fixed 1/250 sec it corrects this problem.  Does 
this indicate a problem with my camcorder or is it common?

THANKS

Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.production
From: jem@cup.hp.com (Jim McCauley)
Subject: Re: Computing Surround Sound; adding surround to home videos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:03:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Robert J Woodhead (trebor@foretune.co.jp) wrote:

: This is helpful, but being a computer (graphics) weenie, I'm a little
: confused by the meaning of "changing phase."  Can someone elucidate?

I think that it is directly analogous to inverting the colors of an
image to their complements.  In fact, the same code may work on audio
(careful of format screwiness, though).

Jim McCauley, Learning Products Engineer    **   I do not speak for   **
(that means that I write documentation)     ** Hewlett-Packard in any **
jem@cup.hp.com                              **   official capacity.   **
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.arts.tv,rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Great Simpsons Quote from 11/3/92 episode
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:03:33 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <F6HauB2w165w@amigans.gen.nz> zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) writes:
<
<I thought that betaCam was one of the highest formats available and is 
<used for television! Am I wrong?? Have I been mislead? Am I part of a 
<consumer trap fooling us citizens into thinking that betacam is the 
<highest Television grade of recording system available?

Oops, inaccuracy in the above statement.

In another of Sony's blunders, they used the name BetaCam more than once.  The
first product was a home consumer camcorder, that recorded in the Beta format.
It never did good and died.  In Sony's wisdom, the name got used again for a
professional product that used Beta-like tape, but wasn't in the home Beta
format.  The tape only lasted 20 minutes, was a different formulation, and
separated the luminance and chrominance & recorded them on separate video
tracks.

It was later enhanced and has become BetaCamSP.  The current BetaCam format
isn't even close to the home BetaCam format (well except for the tape shell).

So, you are wrong on a few accounts.  The BetaCam you are thinking of is not
the highest format available for television.  BetaCamSP doesn't even fit that
mold.  The digital formats do that.  When you hear about BetaCam on television,
forget about Beta.

With a bad choice of words used by Sony, Beta is being made out better than it
really is.
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From: kimd@gizmo.usc.edu (Kim Daugherty)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Sony TR101 vs. Nikon VN750
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:59:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gizmo.usc.edu


Are there ANY differences between these two models?  It seems that I can get
the Nikon for quite a bit less than the Sony, but don't want to give up any
features.

Also, does anybody know a mail order price better than $1299 for the Nikon 
VN750? 
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| kimd@gizmo.usc.edu              | University of Southern California |
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From: yee@edison.seas.ucla.edu (John Yee)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: What is this new fangled "LD+G"?
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:09:13 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

Sorry, an FAQ likely this is, but I haven't seen it defined yet, so
please, would some knowledgeable netter please post what this format is,
and if you need a special player etc?

It seems that one of the versions (the CAV one I think) of the Japanese LDs 
of Disney's "Cinderella" is done using this LD+G business.

Thanks,
-- 
jy, yee@seas.ucla.edu - "The man with no .sig"
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Re: Does Macrovision cause brightness fluctuations?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:05 EST  

In article <1992Nov20.155027.26930@sei.cmu.edu>, kh@sei.cmu.edu (Kurt Haverstock) writes...
>In article Re: Does Macrovision cause brightness fluctuations? of 21 Nov 92 05:09:21 GMT brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> 
> 
> 
>>Wrong.  The AGC screwup is during copying from one VCR to another.  If you
>>are playing the tape directly to the TV (not going through another VCR), then
>>it is the TV that is having problems with the Macrovision.
>>
>>There are many TVs that have problems with Macrovision.  The Macrovision
>>company claims not.  My letter to a trade publication should proabably appear
>>next month (since it wasn't in the recent issue).  Macrovision is supposidly
>>going to respond to my complaints about the signal.  I will post them when
>>I get it.
> 
> 
>My gaff. You're absolutely right. Gain circuitry processes incoming video,
>not output. 
> 
>My television is also less-than-fond of the stuff and watching Macro'd
>movies is extremely annoying.  Good luck in the wars.

I hope that he does have success.  However, we should all write our 
complaints--en masse, perhaps--to increase the odds of something being done 
to correct this so-called "non-existant" problem which may find it's way 
onto LDs.  It's not just Vidiot's crusade, afterall!

> 
> 
>Kurt
> 
> 


Greg
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: curt@kcwc.com
Subject: Re: How does VCR Plus work?
Reply-To: curt@kcwc.com (Curt Welch)
Organization: KCW Consulting, Oakton VA
Cancel-Lock: MD5:a78b335fbe10d390764e4217ac1f4000
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:13:26 GMT

In rec.video, chuck@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Chuck Hartman) writes:
>Does VCR Plus actually program your VCR's timer memory for you or
>does it just sit in front of your VCR and feed the VCR IR commands at
>the appropriate time?

It sends IR commands at the appropriate time.  It turns your VCR
on (which must be off), sets the channel, and starts recording.
It can also be programmed to set the channel on the cable TV box.

Curt
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)
Subject: Re: Circular LD Damage
Reply-To: mckelvey@fafnir.com
Organization: Fafnir Software, Saugus, CA, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:55:44 GMT

In article <BxqyJw.4w8@fafnir.com> mckelvey@fafnir.com (James W. McKelvey)  
writes:
> I just played a LD that played perfectly previously, and it continuously  
locked  
> at a specific point.  Upon examining the disc, I saw a circular gouge that  
was  
> not there originally.  It's so bad, you can feel it!
> 
> What can cause such damage?  I have a Philips CDV600.

Answering my own question, I'm pretty sure now that the laser disc player was  
moved while a disc was playing.  This presumably caused the laser tracker (or  
whatever) to bounce up and contact the disc.  Obviously it is desirable that  
this be impossible, but maybe it is difficult to accomplish in practice for  
some reason.

So, don't do that!

But given such extreme damage, what can one expect from the player?  The CDV600  
is extremely uncooperative when faced with such a disc.  It first locks,  
repeating the scene over and over.  It won't fast forward past the scene.   
Since the disc is CAV, addressing to a specific frame is possible, and that  
does usually skip over the bad spot.  Sometimes, though, it can't find the  
frame;  when this happens, it always ejects the disc.

That is one of the most aggravating things about this unit.  If it can't do  
what you ask, it ejects the disc, rather than just stopping somewhere with an  
error condition.  With the extra time to spin down, eject, reload, and spin up  
again, it can be extremely frustrating trying to work around a disc problem.

Is this typical of other models/manufacturers?  This is my first laser disc  
player.
-- 
A man should not strive to eliminate his complexes, but to get in
accord with them; they are legitimately what directs his conduct
in the world. - Sigmund Freud
Jim McKelvey                      mckelvey@fafnir.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au (Chung Ming Liu)
Subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-D750/CLD-D701 Problems !
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:26:27 GMT

careyk@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Carey Kinoshita) writes:

>I heard that the CLD-939 was voted by 13 Japanese Video Experts
>as being the best.  Better than the more expensive MDP-999 or
>the LD-S2.

Did you read that in Hi Vi ? 'cause I did .
But I found that Magazine to be bias in a lot way.

Chung Ming Liu
u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: larson@loren.net.com (Alan Larson)
Subject: Re: Vertical Interval Data
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:38:08 GMT

In article <42921118230024.0004381282NA2EM@mcimail.com> ALANH%WRQ@MCIMAIL.COM (Alan Haff) writes:

> If memory serves, a dozen or so years ago several manufacturers offered
> tvs that could 'read' data contained in the vertical interval.  None of
> them seem to waving flags about the capability today.  What happened?
> Do all of them do it now (putting the capability on par with electronic
> tuning thus eliminating any marketing advantage)?  Were the results
> so unimpressive/detrimental the idea was dropped?  Has the data been
> changed/eliminated so it's no longer useful/accessible?

  As I recall, the signal was one used for adjusting the color properly.
The system had some problems in that (1) it was not transmitted on all
programs, and (2) it was not recorded by VCRs.

  Actually, it may have been recorded, but came back so distorted as
to have been useless.

  Vertical interval test signals never seemed to become a standard,
so I doubt that any consumer equipment depends on them nowdays.  Since
TV sets and transmission systems are so much more stable than in the
past, I doubt that there is that much need.

	Alan
From: clee@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Cassian Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Differences between Sony TR71 and TR81
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:59:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxz37D.HBw
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Originator: clee@troon.ncsa.uiuc.edu


What other differences are there besides 10X vs 8X, and 8mm vs Hi8????
It seems like TR71 has more features than TR81...is it worth it to pay
$100+ more for the TR81, other than the Hi8 feature??? 

I guess the question is is the picture quality really that much better
on a Hi8 than a 8mm format???

Cassian
From: kfsmith@vnet.ibm.com (Kirk Smith)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 09:19:46 EST
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Aliens Collectors Edition for $19.95...
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Nov17.053356.13600@eecs.nwu.edu>

In <1992Nov17.053356.13600@eecs.nwu.edu> Michael L. Kaufman writes:
>
>I have yet to see a posting by a member that mentioned any real complaints
>to the club. I have seen a number of complaints (mostly ill-advised) from
>non members, but are there any unsatisfied members out there? And if so why?
>
>Michael
>

Michael:

I've been a happy member of Columbia since its inception. No, I don't
buy every disk I won there. But, I do find that the deals are good and
I have been very happy with the service. I think some people feel it
is not polictically correct or "uncool" to belong to any kind of club
of this sort. Well, to each their own, I say...

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                    = Kirk F. Smith                    =
                    = Internet: kfsmith@vnet.ibm.com   =
                    = Compuserve: 70541,1063           =
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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Is there a timer for the Sony TR81 camcorder?
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:39:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Nov15.180043.29043@athena.mit.edu>, formula@athena.mit.edu (Ronald R. Duff Jr.) writes:
> 
> 	Since I have a comprehensive warrenty for my Sony TR81 and I'm not 
> concerned at all about excessive use, I was wondering about the
> availability of timer devices which would allow me to use the camera as a
> HI-FI VCR.  Since the camera can be remote controlled through the "Remote"
> jack, it would seem that a timer unit to drive the camera would naturally
> plug in here.  The would beat using a cheap wall timer and rigging up
> something to actuate the "REC" button in VTR mode.  If these devices are
> not available, does anyone know what signal needs to be sent in through the
> remote jack to tell the camera to start recording in VTR mode?  Any info
> will be appreciated!

A Memorex CP6 universal remote control will do this.

-- 
Jeff Killeen - DECUS U.S. Chapter NLC Chair | Email:killeen@eisner.decus.org

DECUS is for folks who are responsible for delivering computing technology.
The NLC is the national council for DECUS's Local User Groups - come join us!
From: syd@dsi.com (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: looks like 3030 upgrade time
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:23:13 GMT
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc., Huntingdon Valley, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsinc.dsi.com

Well my 3030 just died, and its time to decide
1. repair it
2. replace it.

So, on the #2, I'm looking for comments on what to get....

Is the 3090's problems fixed in the 701?
How does the video of the Sony 455 compare to the 701?

or

should I just bite the bullet and 'repair' the 3030.

(It won't recognize there is a disk in the unit and spin up.)
-- 
========================================================================
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Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,1994
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jjb@halcyon.com (Jim Black)
Subject: Pioneer Elite CLD-31, high-end laserdisc player. $490 obo
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:20:27 GMT

Pioneer Elite CLD-31 

   Excellent laser disc player
   Includes S-Video outputs, coaxial digital output
   Plays all disc formats (LD, CD, CDV; 3", 5", 8", 12").
   Very low video noise
   Jog shuttle remote

   Still under warranty

   $490 or best offer

-  Jim Black          957 18th Ave E, Seattle, WA 98112 - (206) 324-6240 
   jim@innova.wa.com

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: new lbx lds?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:35:39 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Scott Streeter (ss@wpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:

> Alien 3 LBX CLV will be out December 2nd. The only LBX Alien and
> Aliens LD's are CAV

Make that "the only DOMESTIC...".  There is a new w/s CLV "Alien" in Japan,
according to a recent issue of LDN; 4800 Yen.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: dgoodwin@hoops.West.Sun.COM (Dan Goodwin - Sun SSE)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: LD thru the VCR
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:34:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: west.1e97ktINNmh8
Reply-To: dgoodwin@hoops.West.Sun.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoops.west.sun.com

In order to tape an LD, I have run the video from the LD player to the
VCR then to the TV.   This is MitsuU54 non-SVHS VCR.  Should the resolution 
be the same when the video signal gets to my TV??  In otherwords, 
when I copy one of my own disks to tape, am I watching a degraded picture?
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases,rec.arts.movies,rec.music.video
From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: re: BETA Movie/Music List on Misc.forsale; updated 11/18
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:50:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.205436.7428@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>A number of us Beta users on USENET have been overcoming the death of
>our "poor man's laserdisc" format at the corner rental stores by the
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Laserdisc player costs about the same as Beta recorder, if not lower.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Letterbox movie day on TNT
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:35:41 GMT

>Forbidden Planet                (1960)

1956, I believe.

>Victor/Victoria                 (1982)

I'd rather see Glen or Glenda.

Newsgroups: rec.video