HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: list
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:59:14 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University

All of the sudden, everybody is having all kinds of great ideas.  Some of these
ideas are _really_ interesting, and I was wondering:  Has anybody been keeping
track of them, compiling them, etc?  It would be a shame for all of these ideas
to slowly go scrolling off of the top of my News Utility, to be forgotten
forever.  Besides, it would be nice to have them all gathered together for 
analysis/review.  Has anybody out there been doing this, or should I start? (Or
is it a dumb idea?)

Have a truly happy and nice and cheery day,
--Joshua
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
From: kruegewa@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Puffin)
Subject: Re: Tilt the Earth
Keywords: nuke em till they glow then shoot em in the dark
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:48:58 GMT

bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu writes
>Ok, OK, I'm humbled.  
>
>I can see that my idea about nuking the moon didn't go over too well.  I guess
>that too many articles on overkill ratio, etc., caused me to overestimate the
>power of nukes.  Still, though, I think we need to come up with something
>better than viruses, poisons, and other such methods of destruction.  

Well, we could try taking the world arsenal of nuclear arms and detonate them  
when the moon rotated such that the explosion would be in "front" of the moon  
(with respect to the moon's revolution about the earth).  This would hopefully  
steal some of the moon's kinetic energy by giving the moon an "backwards"  
impulse.  By orbital mechanics, the moon would have to move into a lower-energy  
orbit, making it "fall" closer to the earth.  This might not be catastrophic  
enough for some, but I think this would be quite a little attention-getter when  
it went off--plus the tidal forces on the two bodies would change quite a bit,  
and we might even have a collision within our lifetimes!

(The moon is actually losing energy as it is due to tidal forces, so it'll  
eventually break up, but that's WAY to far off in the future.)
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Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
From: dbj@blencoe2.chem.ornl.gov (David B. Joyce)
Subject: How much is a megaton?
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:54:24 GMT

I'm trying to do a rough calculation of the relative effects of a 10 km  
diameter meteor impact (Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction - type impact) versus  
all the nuckes in the world.  Does anyone know how much energy is released by  
your average megaton nuke ? (in Joules, please.)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
From: fsgaw1@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Doing Nothing at all(How about cannibalism)
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:31:40 GMT

	Heck, if we want to destroy the human race, why would we want
to ruin our sex lives as the former writer suggested. Why don't we just eat
each other. And if nobody will do that, make a machine that will get the job
done nice, clean and effectively.

Man's only enemy is his mind!! Get rid of that and all problem are solved.
From: pholland@iastate.edu (Paul J Hollander)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: WHY?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:41:22 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <WMPERRY.92Oct8103133@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> wmperry@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (William Michael Perry) writes:
>>LET ME GUESS.  YOU ALL LISTEN TO HEAVY METAL FOR BREAKFAST.  NO OFFENSE...  
>
>No, actually for breakfast I prefer to listen to Mozart.  And if I am
>in a bad mood I'll listen to Beethoven's 'Wellington's Victory'.  Or
>if I am in a _really_ bad mood I will listen to public enemy :)
>
> (Deleted)

The 1812 Overture gets my blood moving.  Though I guess you could call that
heavy metal.  All those cannon....   8^)

Paul Hollander    pholland@iastate.edu
Behold the tortoise: he makes no progress unless he sticks his neck out.
From: v116qhth@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I'm not evil...I'm just good looking)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Some strange thoughts!?
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  Every little kid has wanted to be something when they grew up, be it a
fireman, a policeman, or a plummer. Some interesting kids even have strange
ideas as to what they wanna be a vulture or vice-president (haha). But these
"strange" ideas usually stop latter on in life as the children grow out of
this "phase". I myself had the "strange" yearning to be a vampire. This
dream still concerns me as I still think about it and think that I most
likely still wanna be a Vampire. I have reaccuring dreams of making love to
a female Vampire (yes, I know they feel nothing). In this dream I know she
is one of the Night Breed and this turns me on. I am willing to let her
drink from me as long as she does it immediately after orgasm, so the two
feelings are associated. Any thoughts, criticisms, psychoanalysises, or
offers?

					Signed
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Subject: Re: Stupid question??
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:54:30 GMT

In article <Bvt52I.AFB@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v076jy2p@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Cosmo Of The Cosmos) writes:
|> In article <bacchus.718535671@mcl>, bacchus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Graham Linn) writes...
|> >Well, here goes... All of you "vampires" at universities, how can you attend
|> >classes?  Aren't they held during daylight hours?  I find it hard to believe
|> >that they offer enough night classes!  
|> 
|> Yes, they do.  About Half as many as they have day classes.  At least here
|> at UB.  Besides, most teachers don't care as long as you do the tests and
|> hand in the homeworks.
|> 
|> Besides, who told you I was trying to get a degree?
|> 
|> 					-Capt'n Quaalude
|> 

there's a vampirish looking dude that works as a consultant in the undergrad
library computer area at UB.  He wears all black and caries a knife and is
as pale as elric of Melinbone! perhaps youve seen him? in the mirror? (or not.)
From: dmorgan@emunix.emich.edu (Faceman)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Lumley's Necroscope series
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:16:19 GMT
Organization: Detroit Institute of Criminal Arts and Sciences

In article <1992Oct14.183540.6416@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>Any other fans of Brian Lumley's Necroscope series out here? It is a 
>rather pulpy series, but it is good pulp and he has some very interesting
>ideas about the symbiotic/parasitic nature of the Wamphyrii.
>Let's Talk
>
>Necroscope
>Vamphyrii
>The Source 
>Deadspeak
>Deadspawn
>
>					--Judex--
>

ME ME ME ME ME ME



-- 
+---------------------------------+------------------------------------+
| "If love is blind...            | dmorgan@emunix.emich.edu (Faceman) |
|    why is lingerie so popular?" +------------------------------------+
|       --  an anonymous wise man |"Naner Naner Naner...and Wubba Too" | 
+---------------------------------+------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: spaceman@mwunix.mitre.org (Fletcher Williams)
Subject: Allergies to sunlight (Re: Existance of Vampire)
Keywords: Sunlight allergies
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:48:26 GMT

In article <21017@plains.NoDak.edu>, dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:

|> 
|> Hell, son, *I* have a minor trouble with sunlight. That's why I prefer the
|> night. But, no, I'm not worried about vampires, and, yes, my 'massive
|> allergic reaction' was spontaneous combustion caused by sunrise, something
|> exhibited by no land-based vertebrate to my knowledge.
|> 
|> -- 
|> David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
|> "Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
|> "All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
|> dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu

     <more chuckles> Aye. The night is alot easier on my eyes, too. I'd rather
be about in the evening and wee hours than the daylight. I'm not a vampire
however, and I haven't yet met any in my travels. Maybe they don't like suburbia
or rural america. :)
     Just wanted  to clarify the point about sunlight allergies. Your original
post seemed to indicate that there weren't any such beasties. 

* Fletcher

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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###I don't speak for MITRE, nor they for me.###
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: el27166@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (This Space for Rent)
Subject: Winona Ryder
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:58:14 GMT

Was there supposed to be some vampire movie with Winona Ryder in it
coming out soon?  Anyone know if this gonna be any good?

Gee, living forever and spending all your nights with Winona Ryder...
what a drag, huh?

Bite me,
Ming
-- 
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"Nobody told me there'd be .sigs like these."
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From: rnapier@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Robert Napier)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: proofs
Keywords: reality, existence
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:25:47 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

v125p7c5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna) writes:

>	I will prove that gravity is what holds you to the surface of the
>earth.  
>	Gravity is a force exerted by one body (earth) onto another body
>(people).  The direction of the force is toward the center of the larger
>body, because large masses attract smaller masses.  The earth has more mass
>than a person therefore a person is attracted to the earth.

In no way would I argue that we are held to the earth.  It is reasonable to
assume that we are.  But what you gave is in *no* sense of the word a "proof".
We assume that gravity holds us to the earth, and it seems to work out.  It
cannot, however, be *proved*.  It could be wrong.  Likewise, there is no way
to "prove" the existance of vampires without bringing some in.  Then it is
easy to say we observe them (much like we *observe* gravity).  However, no one
to date has done this and been believed.  So society disbelieves in vampires.
So be it.  People disbelieved that the earth was round.  They were wrong, or
so it seems.  People disbelieve that we can breathe water.  They're right, or
so it seems.

I do agree, though.  This conference is devoted to the discussion of vampires,
either through legend or fiction or fact.  I would ask if anyone here has
seen a vampire.  It would be interesting to know.  I doubt anyone here truely
has (although I predict a large number of claims).

Of course, what do *you* define as a vampire.  As an obvious champion of logic
you must know that most arguements stem from a differnce of definitions.  It is
well known that there is a disease called lycathrope that causes the gums to
receede (fangs), super-sensitivity to light, sensitivity to garlic and some
other herbs in extreme cases, and, before modern medicine, could be best 
treated by drinking other people's blood.  Are these people vampires?

SITH
Rob Napier
rnapier@csugrad.cs.vt.edu

There is no gravity.  The earth just sucks.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Vampire Movies
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:05:06 GMT


	Has anyone seen any good vampire flicks?  Let's get a net.list
	of them.  Here is my contribution to get things started:

1. _Vampire's_Kiss_, starring Nicholas Cage.  He has a wierd sexual
	experience with a wonam that bites his neck.  Has delusions
	about being a vampire.  Totally funny!

2. _Nosferatu_, c.1927, Silent movie about Vampires.  Vampires here
	are deformed monsters.

3. _Dracula_, starring Bela Lugosi.  The Classic.  Based on the Bram Stoker
	novel.  Because so much popular literature is based on this, it
	seems rather cliche.  It isn't when you realize this is what
	STARTED it all (in pop culture).

4. _Dance of the Damned_, Kind of surreal discussion between a stripper
	who is stuck in a Vampire's lair, and the Vampire.  Wierd but 
	kind of good (in a cerebral way...).

Any other additions?  Books?  
-- 
+-------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
| Brent L. Irvine         |  "Reality is not the world, but the perception of |
| irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu |   the world."			-Sneakers     |
+-------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+ 
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ag653@yfn.ysu.edu (Rob Clark)
Subject: Re: Allergies to sunlight (Re: Existance of Vampire)
Reply-To: ag653@yfn.ysu.edu (Rob Clark)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:01:15 GMT



>
>I'm a student at the University at Buffalo, and here, I have many friends
>(most Asian like myself--I once heard a non-Asian friend generalize, "Asians
>are notoriously nocturnal) who keep reverse hours during non-school and some
>school nights.  We rise at five in the evening and stay up until the sun is
>rising.  We jokingly refer to ourselves as Vampires, simply because we keep
>such vampiric hours.
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>|     ____ ____  :  Lisbeth Lee
>|     |___ |___  :  v100ra7t@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
>|____ |___ |___  :  CARPE DIEM!
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

CARPE DIEM seems a rather inappropriate motto for a
vampire!!  Shouldn't it be CARPE NOCTURUM or something
<g>
-- 
Rob Clark
National Defence Headquarters, Ottawa, Canada  994-8949
Internet:    ag653@yfn.ysu.edu
From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: proofs
Keywords: reality, existence
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:17:27 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

v125p7c5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna) writes:

>
>    I will attempt to offer a proof that a proof has bassis in reality.
>         If I can prove something to be true then a proof exists.  If it
> exists then it is real. If it is real then it exists in reality.
>
>    Line   statement    reason
>
>     1   If a then b     given
>     2   a               given
>     3   therefore b     1,2
>     .... [ Additional lesson in Symbolic Logic deleted ]

Symbolic Logic was a joke when I took a course in it, but i'm glad to see
it's being used for something worth while. Perhaps I would of been more
inclined to take it seriously if it was used to shows the basis of the
existance of vampires.

<X>orcist

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: vampyric population
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:49:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Oct5.160050.15321@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Tatro) writes:
>Does anyone have an idea of the most "efficient" human/vampyre ratios.  More 
>specifically, how many vampyres a city of, say, one million human-types
>could support.  I know the Vampire RPG gives some guidelines on that, but
>I have heard that they are a bit...open to debate.

Actually, this is tied into the post wondering about "what happens if a
vampire doesn't get enough blood?"

The correct answer, of course, is that it depends on the source of fiction.
Some shrivel away, some just grow old, some fall into stasis, and I'm sure
I read one short story once where they then turned into humans again (!),
but I know I won't be able to remember the title, so please don't ask for it.

As for the best ratio, it all depends on how often your IV ("Ideal Vampire")
must feed, whether your vampires are Anne-Rice cultured and are able to
feed just a little bit from many people, or are Varney-hungry and like
swallowing large chunks, and which rule of vampiric progenation your IV
follows:

1.	Anyone bitten by a vampire becomes one.
2.	Only someone drained of blood entirely becomes a vampire.

#2 will also cover any IV which has to do something ritual to create a
new blood:  sharing blood, or burying the corpse face up, or any other
little ritual.

Once we can define the IV (neat pun, I think, your mileage will vary),
we can get down to the meat and figure out vamp/herd ratios.

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Lilith and Eve and Bible
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:57:54 GMT

moon!cyberden!jwlhyfer@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>Please remember that the bible we get nowadays was translated from 
>Hebrew, a very complex language where even the individual letters have 
>different meanings than just what they spell out. Many, many things were 
>left out of the old testament when it was adopted by Christianity and 
>translated into latin and then english.

Actually, the accepted canon of scripture accepted by the ancient Rabbis
was the same as that for the Old Testament used by the Christians -- The
Talmud (B. Bat. 14b) lists the same books as the Christian Old Testement
(where the OT has the Hebrew books of Kings, Samuel, Chronicles and Ezra
divided into two books each: 1 & 2 Kings, 1 & 2 Samuel, 1 & 2 Chronicles,
Ezra and Nehemiah; and the OT separates the Twelve [minor prophets] into
its 12 individual sections or books).

And no, it was not translated into Latin and then from Latin into English.


Erik A. Johnson, Graduate Student        \ Internet:  johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
Aeronautical & Astronautical Engineering  \
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign \ AmericaOnline: ErikAJ
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:30:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Oct06.175915.28084@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
>In article <20970@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>
>>Oh, yeah, for the argument impared:
>>
>>Occam's Razor:  The simplest answer is usually the correct one.
>
>      Note:  "usually", not "always."

Of course. How does not having an "always" there mean that there could be
vampires?

>>JR's "SC" P [paraphrased]:  Just because I've sat by my chimney, every
>>Christmas eve, waiting for Santa to come down, but never seeing him, doesn't
>>mean that there is no Santa Claus. However, after fifteen years of doing
>>this, I'm willing to bet larger and larger amounts of money each year that
>>Santa will not come down the chimney again next Christmas.
>
>      Agreed.  It's a good bet.  However, if Santa shows up the
>next year, you could lose your shirt.

I'm still willing to bet my net.worth that Santa won't be visiting this
year. You up for taking it?

>>What do vampires (in classical terms) have against them? Well, they're dead,
>>to start with, and dead things have not been observed to do much than
>>decompose over the rest of Earth.
>
>     Note necessarily.  Some fiction theorizes that vampires are simply
>another species, that sits above homo sapiens on the food chain.

Who cares about fiction? I thought we were talking about whether vampires
could actually exist, which is a nifty topic, although not one I'd spend
too much time worrying over. The fact that something has appeared in a
work of fiction only shows that it has appeared in a work of fiction.

>> They suffer massive
>>allergic reactions to sunlight, basically unheard of in multi-cellular
>>lifeforms. And so on.
>
>    Totally false.  There are several conditions that cause severe
>reactions to sunlight in humans.

I'm talking about bursting-into-flames-with-the-rising-sun, not porphyra
(corrected spelling gladly accepted). 

In any case, none of your points have even started laying the foundation
for the long road to show that vampires are around, and could be, except in
some fascinating fiction.
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: devol@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WILLIAM DEVOL)
Subject: Near Dark
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  9 Oct 1992 09:28 EST  

Near Dark was a great vampire (sorry, I can't think of a trendy way to 
spell it) flick.  My favorite part of the film was when the "gang" stopped 
off at the biker bar for a "drink" or two.  The insanity of the vampire 
played by the actor that was the older brother in Weird Science was 
chilling.  (Remember, he lets the bartender shoot him with the sawed-off 
shotgun just to see the barkeep's expression when the vampire jumps up 
bloody but unharmed.)

Watch out for those Lovecraftian Chicklett groupies.  Over on alt.folklore.
ghost-stories, they are driving us to distraction.

Finally, think of the geometric progression (hope that's the right term) of 
vampirism if everyone that was bit became a vampire.  One then two then 
four then eight...We'd have been up to our necks (ok, flame away)  in the 
little rascals before Hector was a pup.  It's a good thing Anne Rice came 
along to invent the not-all-the-way-to-vampire bite. :)

________________________________________________________________

Friends don't let friends go to Miami University.

Bill Devol
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Tale of the Body Thief
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:05:02 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <92Oct16.051632.12508@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>On another note about Anne Rice, has anyone heard of a second
>book to the Witching Hour yet?

	Yup, it's going to be called "Lasher", and she's working on it now
that TotBT is out.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Subject: Re: light fluff
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:41:43 GMT

In article <1bhq6mINNarv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bv531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Beverly J. Tesler) writes:
>
>
>
>   Night's Love
>
>Your hand on the back of my neck
   
    text deleted
>
>The cool sheets.
>
>
>			ARGENT
>
>-- 

   I love it!   Kudos!
                            Glenn

Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 23:28:49 -0400 
From: "Jordan M. Wolbrum" <jw67+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Vampire Movies
	<BvtBGJ.HHC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: usa

Near Dark is a good flick too.

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