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From: dje@cygnus.com (Doug Evans)
Subject: Causes of hd head crashes
Organization: Cygnus Support
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:17:06 GMT
Followup-To: poster
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I'm having recurring problems with head crashes on my machine. At least
I think they're head crashes. I hear a "plunk" which is followed by several
hard disk write errors on the console.

The thing is, it's happened to two different drives (both Seagate ST1239A's),
so while I'm willing to believe it's a problem with the drive, I wonder what
are external causes of head crashes? IE: Bad power supply? Bad controller?

Perhaps what I'm hearing is a head retracting because it thinks the
power is being shut off because the power supply is either faulty or doesn't
put out enough juice?

I'm just guessing, but I don't want to replace the drive and have it happen
again because something else was the root cause.

Please respond via mail, and thanks in advance.

--
Doug Evans        | With views like these ...
dje@cygnus.com    |                           who needs disclaimers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: kwanghan@iti.gov.sg (Tan Kwang Han (SE))
Subject: Quiet Keyboard
Summary: Quiet Keyboard
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:38:26 GMT

I'm looking for a keyboard that is absolutely quiet. That is the keys do
NOT click when people type. Required for an environment that needs the
computer to be total unobstrusive.

Any help, pointers, references are greatly appreciated.

Please email me directly and I'll summarise if there is interest.

    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: u906583@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Paul Roberts)
Subject: HELP adding more ram to XT
Keywords: ram,help,xt,memory
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 08:45:04 GMT

I have an old IBM XT, and I have installed 640k on the motherboard, and I
also have an expansion card that can fit up to 512k on it.  The card has 8dip
switches on it.  Is it possible to use any of the ram on the card as either
expaned or extended memory.
Any help would be appreciated.

Paul.
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From: jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu (Lee A. Jorgensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,sci.electronics
Subject: Wondering about DRAMS  .. (operating temps)
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:47:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bw3pnC.EFE
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I have a 3 Meg memory board that occasionally gives me errors.
Mostly they are parity errors, and POST errors.

I was wondering if operating temperature would have an effect
on the chips.  Whenever I boot 'cold' (giving the computer long
periods of rest) no errors result.  However, whenever I boot
just after using the computer, I get errors - sometimes.

The chips are 41256's (??? ns)  (256k x 1)

Could anyone help in solving this STRANGE error?

-Lee.

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Lee Jorgensen             Internet: jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu
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From: Charles.Aulds@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Charles Aulds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Using more than 2 COM ports.
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 12:42:24 CDT
Organization: Micro Magic

I'm using a 486-33 DX, running Win 3.1 and DOS 5.0, which was configured
by the manufacturer with a multi-IO card with two serial ports; a mouse
attached to COM1, and COM2 disabled.  A modem card used that port.  Now
we need to set up a 9600 bps direct line to a Unix host and require the
second serial port on the multi-IO card.  The card would NOT allow that
port to be reconfigured for hardware port COM3 or COM4, so we re-jumpered
the modem to COM3 and enabled COM2 on the multi-IO card.  However, we've
been unable to get it to work due to interrupt line conflicts, even when
we set our software to use IRQ5.  The docs for the seiral card say that
the card uses a "proprietary" scheme for allowing software to be set to
use IRQ5, even when the card is jumpered to generate interrupts on
line 3 or 4.

Our question:  How does one use more than two serial ports on a PC,
running DOS, and using Windows?  This is probably a Frequently-Asked
Question, but I hope I can generate a short, sweet response from someone. 
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From: Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: FX-286 for sale
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:03:58 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

I don't have access to the forsale group, so I am posting here:

Epson FX-286 wide carriage 9pin printer - US$150 plus shipping.
Sold under the Sperry lable, but is a full blooded Epson FX-286.
Excellent condition, includes pull tractor, PC data cable, and manual.

Supports draft, correspondence, and NLQ typefaces.

My needs have changed and I find myself rarely using wide paper anymore;
plus I recently added to my desktop zoo and this printer is taking up too
much space.  I plan on purchasing a standard carriage 24 pin printer.

Jim_johnson@abcd.houghton.mi.us

(906)337-5610 between 9am-9pm eastern North American time zone.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jim Johnson-
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From: dpp@cray.com (David Peterschmidt)
Subject: BIOS used in Gateway 66DX2
Reply-To: dpp@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:44:44 CDT


Could one of you owners of Gateway's DX2/66 VLB machine please tell
me which BIOS is used?  Please include the version as well if known.  

Also, could you confirm that the machine does indeed use the ATI Graphics
Ultra Pro VLB and how much VRAM is included.

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu ()
Subject: How do I change COM port assignments in software?
Summary: Windows won't recognize that I changed COM 2 to COM 1 in hardware
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:38:31 GMT

I need some help. I was one of the people who originally ordered a
GW2000 Telepath modem when they were first available but before anyone
knew they were a problem. Through some bookkeeping bungling on
GW2000's part, it's taken six months for the revised Telepath
fax/modem card to get here. (They had no record that I had bought
one, so they crossed me off their tracking list. But I digress.)

The new card arrived with installation instructions specific to
Windows 3.1, which I use. It so happens that it suggests you use a
non-standard configuration of COM3, IRQ 5 for this modem if you're
using Windows 3.1.  The problem is that the original system came
configured as follows:

Telepath = COM 1
COM A    = COM 2 (DB9 serial mouse I/O)
COM B    = COM 3 (DB25 serial interface)

I'm assuming that Gateway suggests COM 3, IRQ 5 when using Windows 3.1
for a reason (although they don't explain what that reason is). So, I
want to change the configuration for my machine to match their
recommendation.  I looked through the manual and I found the jumper
settings that will give me COM A = COM 1 and COM B = COM 2. The
Telepath has the DIP switches right on it to select it as a COM 3
device. That's all well and good, but the *ONE* thing I can't find
anywhere is how to tell DOS and Windows that I've made this change. At
this point, if I reboot Windows comes up but the mouse won't move the
cursor. I assume it's because the mouse serial data is going to COM 1
now but Windows expects it to be at COM 2 like before. I've looked for
a BIOS setup utility, but can't find one, looked through the DOS 5.0
manual, but no command seems to do this, and looked through the
Windows 3.1 manual, same story.

What do I need to do to put this change into effect?

Thanks in advance.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: gilem@aix.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile)
Subject: Re: 2 stupid questions
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:05:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.182845.27445@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>In <1992Oct15.020212.23562@williams.edu> 93gke@williams.edu (Greg Ennis) writes:
>
>>1. When people say "VL bus" are they referring to local bus???
>
>Never heard of it.  The 'other' name for local bus, if it meets the
>'standard' is VESA, I think.

VESA = Video Electronics Standards Association
VL bus is the name of the VESA local bus specification

>
>>2. Do local bus machines have ISA or EISA specific slots???
>
>I sure hope so.  Usually there are only 2 local-bus slots and the rest
>will be something else.
>i

Yes, and I believe you can use the VESA slots for ISA, although I could
be misled on this particular point

>>   Or, can ISA cards be plugged into local bus slots?
>
>Even if you could get them in the slots, I don't think they can run.
>The local bus slots run at the CPU clock speed.  Standard cards expect
>that to be 8 MHz or thereabouts, not 4-6 times that.  Sounds like a
>good way to fry parts to me.  ;-)
>

These would run at 8MHz

>-- 
>"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
> in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.

Mike
gilem@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.dcom.fax,comp.dcom.lans
From: MKUNZE1@ibm.gwdg.de
Subject: Re: LAN access to FAX modem
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 00:22:12 MEZ

 
From a PC on the LAN, generate a fax and send it out using a fax modem
on a "fax server."  He is willing to have a user send a file to the server
and still have the server send the fax but he wants it as automatic as
can be.
 
Hi, fellow netters,
we
we had the same request here two weeks ago, but now i have found a real
nice LAN-Fax package that actually does all we need and, what's best,
is moderatly priced.
It works virtually on every LAN type and all it needs is a simple standard
class2 Fax board.
Try to phone SofNet company in Georgia, Phone number is (404)984-8088,
Fax number...,yes they have one, is (404)984-9956.
If you speak to Courtney Blackwell, send her greetings from me.
 
Bye Michael
 
________________________________________________________________________
Michael Kunze, Max-Planck-Institut fuer Stroemungsforschung
Goettingen, Germany
MKUNZE1@DGOGWDG1 (BITNET)
MKUNZE1@IBM.GWDG.DE (INTERNET)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Subject: floppy write protection - can bypass?
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:38:00 GMT

Using the Norton Commander in a PC (a Toshiba), it seems possible to write
on a write protect floppy.

My questions are:

1 - the write protection is done by HW or SW?

2 - can the write protection be bypassed from the SW?

3 - is there any difference among different PC brands?

Thank you very much.

Luca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Thursday, 15 Oct 1992 13:50:01 CET
From: <APETROVI@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Third floppy drive

On my 486DX (AT) I have a 3.5" drive A and for my B drive I would
like to switch (mechanically) between a 5.25" drive and another
3.5" drive. I was thinking of using one of those serial or parallel
A-B switch box switches to switch all the floppy drive pins over but
thought it may only be necessary to change the main control lines.
Has anyone done this before (somebody must have !) and how is the
best way to do it ?
Could any loading problem result on the data lines if they are left
connected to two drives at once ?
Can the power lines be left operating on the drive that is not being
used ?
Thankyou for any information.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Need hardware info on VGA
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 12 Oct 1992 12:33:07 EST
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.


I am a computer engineering student at Michigan Tech. and I am working
on a hardware project.  Basically, I'm designing my own computer,(well,
more like a slave computer, with Keyboard I/O and storage being done
by a host computer, to save myself some time) and I want the home-built
computer to have its own graphics display.  Rather than reinvent the wheel,
I'd like to adapt an 8 bit VGA card to it instead, if possible.
The processor I'm designing this around is the Western Design 65816.
Basically, it's a 16 bit CPU with an 8 bit DATA bus and 24 bit Address bus.
I'll probably run it at 6-8mHz.      Why the 65816?  Well, there are several
reasons: cost, my personal familiarity with the architecture, etc.

Anyway, what would it take to hook up an 8 bit VGA card to it?

I know relatively little about the PC architecture, I mostly work
on SUNs and NeXT machines at school.  I was looking through a JDR Catalog, and
they have MCT VGA boards with lots of resolutions for $80.00.  I know I
can find cheaper, probably $60.00 or so, and that would be great if I
can somehow adapt the board to my own uses.

The first step would be finding how the actual PC 8 bit ISA bus works,
on an electrical level.  From there, I need to know how to access the
graphics hardware on the board.  I know that most VGA cards contain ROMS
containing code which is downloaded to the PC, but due to the different
CPU instruction sets, that won't be of any use to me, so I will have to
know how the Tseng chip, TI340x0, or whatever, is set up, so I can talk to
it, or the VRAM directly, it's all not too clear to me, not knowing anything
about how PC VGA cards are laid out, as I said.

Can somebody give me some serious help, or is adapting a PC type video card
simply an unrealistic goal?



Jeff McWilliams  jjmcwill@mtu.edu  EE Engineer --> Michigan Tech.
Leaves Turning, falling, withering
Wind blowing, rustling, chilling
candlelight will soon be flickering
from jack-o'-lantern faces grinning

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: gfini@nyx.cs.du.edu (Gianluca Fini)
Subject: Mhz questions advanced
Summary: Mhz questions advanced
Keywords: PCBENCH
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 12:28:58 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Mhz questions
Summary: Mhz questions advanced
Keywords: PC

I have some question about PC's motherboards. If there's someone out there that
can answer to one or more of them...thanks in advance!

1. I have a Simphony board 486 50Mhz. My AMI Bios is dated 01-20-92. In advanced
 CMOS setup I can find two 'strange voices': internal cache (enabled disabled)
 external cache (present absent). Originally Internal cache was enabled and exter
 nal was absent. I have 256Kbyte cache TOSHIBA at 20 ns... But the normal RAM
 is 80 ns... When I enabled external cache I obtained that the string "256K cache"
 is shown at boot and the PC is a little bit (only a little in RAM test) faster.
 What does they mean..enabling/disabling 256Kcache should be much more incisive
 and I foud it is incisive enabling/disabling Internal cache setting...what
 is that..I do not think that is is possible to disable internal 486's 8K cache!

2. I set 0wait states in BIOS setup. It works fine. So it should mean that changing
 my 80ns RAM with 60ns should NOT improve PC speed (256K cache should ammortize  slow RAM...)

3. I set BUS CLOCK division (voice: ATCLK2/x where x is 2 2.5 3 4 5 6) to be
 divided by 2!!!!! So my ISA bus runs at 25Mhz??? Is it possible.
 Using other BUS divisions my PC slows down significantly (HD trasfer rate above all)

4. How can I calculate the trasfer rate of my HD?? Core test gives me
  the value of 1.4Mbytes, Norton sysinfo 990Kbytes, CP SI 890Kbytes!!!
  I made the tests with no AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.sys (nothig resident no
 software or Hardware cache). I own a Western Digital Pirana(212Mb).

5. I would like to exchange benchmarks info with You all. You can rename
  Your AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS, reboot and run all tests of PCLABS BENCH
  5.0 or 6.0. Then print the file and e-mail it to me at

 tbra380@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it

  I'll collect all and I could send back the entire collection to people who
  sent me one BENCH.
  Remember to eliminate autoexec.bat end config.sys!!!
  Also Windows tests (WinBench) are accepted. In this case tell me Your configuration
 (sende me also config, autoexec, win.ini, system.ini).
  You shoul also tell me what You know about Your hardware configuration.

6. This one is difficult: I heard about 80ns RAM working at the same speed of 6


  RAM because of the major quality of the RAM...someone told me that
  an 80ns RAM TOSHIBA or SGS is better than a 60ns RAM xxxxx(unknown name)
  Is it true????? Have You experience on this????

7. The last: in 66Mhz DX2 PCs the cache RAM works at 66 or 33 Mhz?? And the normal
  RAM

Sorry for the errors but the terminal was so slow...
Thank in advance
  tbra380@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: 880518l@dragon.acadiau.ca (Nelson Langille)
Subject: Best 24 pin, and probs with color 24's
Keywords: color 24's best 24
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:57:37 GMT

Anyone have a favorite 24-pin, and does anyone know of color 24 pin
printers that are prone to troubles?
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:26905 comp.unix.bsd:7424
From: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Question on Diamond Clock Synthesizer
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:26:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1bhl84INNff
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

"Accessory after the fact" is in relation to criminal procedings.

Trade secrets are a civil matter.  Not the same thing at all.

Please consult a lawyer.
	- Brian
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From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: COM1 and COM2 not happy!
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:39:24 GMT
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada



I seem to have run into a bizarre problem with my COM ports here.

I have an I/O card with one serial port.  It used to be configured as COM2
when I had an internal modem linked up as COM1.

I recently bought a SupraFax Modem, and just plugged it in, and use it under
Telix on COM2.

However, I recently bought WinFax Pro, and when I installed it, it would only
work when I put it on COM1.  Windows Terminal also does this.

MSD shows that I only have COM1, but Telix will not work unless I specify
COM2.

There are no problems per se, but Jesus is this WEIRD....

Any ideas..?

Toodlepip!
marc 'em.
-- 
  storm@cs.mcgill.ca           McGill University         C program run.  Run  
  Marc Wandschneider           Montreal, CANADA          Program run! PLEASE!
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              regarded as a criminal offense.  -- E. W. Dijkstra
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From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: IDE XT controller card
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:55:16 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi,

Any help that could be offered here would be appreciated. I just
bought a Seagate IDE 42 mbyte drive with XT IDE controller card (Junko,
an unfortunate name I know) for my DTK 1000 XT. I'm having problems 
installing it. I have tried all the possible jumper settings specified 
in the instructions for the controller card. When I turn the machine 
on it goes through the RAM test but then freezes and never boots 
from the floppy. If the card is unplugged then the machine 
boots from floppy fine. What I am doing wrong? I was expecting the
machine to boot from floppy with the controller card plugged in 
so I could then do a debug to set the type and then do an fdisk and 
format the hard drive. 

John





-- 
"I believed what I was told, I thought it was a good life, 
I thought I was happy. Then I found something that changed 
it all..."  Anonymous, 2112  
John lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu
From: demented+@pitt.edu (Scott E Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: VGA 640*400*16
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:31:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I was wondering if anyone could give me any help in programming a 640*400*16
vga video mode.  I think that it should be possible to modify the existing
640*480 mode but I am hessitant to blindly poke around the CRTC registers.
I am working on simultaneously developing both a IBM and Amiga version of a
program.  The only vga reference I have access to does not explain how the
values in the CRTC registers are determind.  Any help would be appreciated.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: IDE? MFM? RLL?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa 
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:36:23 GMT

In <1992Oct8.124518.18935@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu (Johan A. Grape) writes:


>	Hi!

>	Anyone got a quick answer for me?:

>	I just got a hold of an old Seagate ST251

>	Now I wonder, is it IDE?, MFM?, RLL?

>	The only other thing on it is the serial number
>	and a sticker that says MLC-2

>	Can anyone help me?

>	Thanks
>	jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu

MFM   820 cyl  6 heads  17 sectors  no precomp  landing zone 820,

generally a type 40 in most BIOS tables, but your mileage may vary.

Bob.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: drv@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dennis.r.vogel)
Subject: Re: Media Vision - Pro Audio Plus FAQ
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:11:53 GMT

Is there a PAS-16 FAQ?

Dennis R. Vogel
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Middletown, NJ
From: ccusekh@prism.gatech.EDU (Kevin Hodge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: ATTN: Gateway 2000 Current Owners! New Group!
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:07:26 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <Bw4CB1.L07@m2.dseg.ti.com> anderson@dseg.ti.com writes:
>In article <40730011@hpcvra.cv.hp.com> johna@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (John Allen) writes:
>>Count me in if it gets off the ground......
>>
>I am also interested.
>
>Couldn't get mail to the original poster.


Good idea.  Hope it gets off the ground.       
Count me in too.

-- 
Kevin A. Hodge                |   "I'll show you a life of the mind!"
Engineering Psychology        |            Madman Mundt
Georgia Tech                  |