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From: phred@eng.umd.edu (Stephen Krauth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Turrican II preview - need help
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:15:37 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: phred@delta.eng.umd.edu



>For all of you out there you have trouble uudecoding the Turrican II preview
>please note that I've also put this file to cco.caltech.edu where you can
>get it via FTP in pub/rknop/games.
>The reason why it scews up (assuming that the code has been uudecoded
>correctly) might be because your are running it on an NTSC Commodore.
>(just my guess)
>georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de

Yeah... that seems to be the problem. (Pal vs. NTSC)
No hope for an NTSC happy version?  (fool that I am for asking...)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Decreased seek times.
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:55:02 GMT

john@gu.uwa.edu.au (John West) writes:

>>I do understand that increasing the transfer rate will not speed things 
>>up because the bottleneck is the 1541 reading/writing sectors.

>But it does! I disected one of the early fastloaders - they use the
>standard routines for reading and decoding blocks, and just use their
>own serial routine. That was around 5 times faster, I think.

Indeed.  However, a standard fastloader cannot speed up past the 5X mark
without changing the sector interleave factor of the stored files.  Or,
the loader could read the sectors out of order, but that's a very tricky
affair.  It has been done, though, e.g. in the Super Snapshot
fastloader, which can load any file at about 15X speedup.

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From: kilitzir@csd.uch.gr (Kilitzirakis christos 122)
Subject: My credits to TERMINUS
Summary: Bravo to the man that coded TERMINUS
Keywords: demo,programmer
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Crete HELLAS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:08:10 GMT

Well,this maybe you will find this strange,but what I want is just
to say bravo!
I don't know if you buying or used to buy CDU(Commodore Disk User)
but I did.It was the best I could find for my C128/64 :)
Anyway,in one issue of CDU there was a demo provided in the disk
It was called TERMINUS
It was the best,I've ever seen in C64, allthough I admit I havent
see a lot of demos.But, nevertheless it was great,good graphics,
good sound,good story,good directoring (director was good,I mean)
I just wanded to say BRAVO to the guy who coded this,maybe he is out
there...I am so sorry that I don't remember his name...if anyone have 
seen it and got his name please post it.(He was from England,Manchester 
that's all I can recall with possible first name ANDREW)
Well,if thats the case,BRAVO ANDREW!
If anyone knows about if he had coded anymore demos I would like to
e-mail me.
					   Alkis Argiropoulos
					   (ypolo37@athina.cc.uch.gr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: "p. colagiacomo" <p..colagiacomo@canrem.com>
Subject: selling
Reply-To: "p. colagiacomo" <p..colagiacomo@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:14:23 EST

Selling The Following System, I Forgot One Item In My Last Post:

Commodore C64, 1541 Disk Drive (Old Type), Super Snapshot V5.0, RS-232
Deluxe Interface, 1670 1200 Baud Modem, Supra 2400 Baud Modem, Star
Sr-15 132 Column Dot Matrix Printer (No Interface), 30+ Disks (Utils,
Games, Terminal Programs).   Selling For $300.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore)
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Reply-To: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:31:44 GMT

> I suspect that in many cases these games are "out-of-print"...how does
> one now go about acquiring them, if the company has gone defunct...
> is copying now "fair game"??? 
> 
Unfortunately, such is not the case.  Such programs will live in limbo 
until 50 years after the company has gone defunct.
 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,dc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.compters.other
From: ac999118@umbc8.umbc.edu (ac999118)
Subject: Commodore Games for sale or trade.
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:25:55 GMT

I have the following games for the Commodore 64 for sale:

Pools of Radiance		$10
Curse of the Azure Bonds	$10
Secret of the Silver Blades	$15

Champions of Krynn		$15
Death Knights of Krynn		$20

Buck Rodgers I:
   Countdown to Doomsday	$15

Elvira I			$20

All includes original box, original disks and original documentation.
Any reasonable offer will be concidered.  Will trade for same title
for the IBM.  

E-Mail me (ac999118@umbc8.umbc.edu) for more information.  All prices
without shipping.

-John
From: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil (Capt Chris McCormack)
Subject: Looking for Servant 4.82 Files
Reply-To: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:56:24 GMT

   Does anyone out there have the files for Servant 4.82 (ROM code replacement
for the C128)?  Even better would be an ftp site where the files were
available.
					Chris McCormack
					mccormac@hangar.usafa.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1541 connected to an IBM
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:48:53 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

A big THANK YOU to the chap who put the x1541.exe program on the system.
(GHIELMET@eldi.epfl.ch)  I have successfully made up the cable and have
the program running - 2 way copies from 1541 to IBM! And the program is
very nicely mouse driven and professional. Am still working out all it's
features and how to drive it correctly (e.g. all files seem to become
prg type), but it works and is a wee beauty! So far I have only tried a 1541
but see mention of 1581 - maybe it supports 1571 and fast serial mode, too?

Now my PC with a 1541 on top is almost respectable!

Cheers - Kirk
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 10th anniversay of the C=64?
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:47:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <92310.092811SYST8134@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> <SYST8134@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
>
>Now, if you want to compare APPLE II computers and C64's as has been done
>ever since they came out around the same time it is C64 hands down,
>especially when bang for the buck enters the conversation.

Although a super-preped Apple machine, such as the II GS with an accelerator
board runing OS GS and ProDOS will easily outdo a C-64 (and C-128, for that
matter) with an accelerator and GEOS.  OS GS is considerably more
functional than GEOS.  ProDOS allows seamless subdirectory and hard disk
integration for all programs.

Granted, this comparison is a little unfair.  If Commodore had come out
with some of those neat high end 8 bitters that Fred Bowen tells us about,
and is BSW had done GEOS 3.0, the II GS could probably have been matched.

You're right about the price bit.  Slots do cost money, though, and they're
another reason the Apple II was better than the C-64 is some ways --
those slots lets you easily drop in 80 column boards, hard disk interfaces,
etc., things that are much harder to accomplish on the 64.

IMHO, the 64 and Apple II was _both_ great machines.  If I had a few
thousand dollars to throw around, I'd probably go buy a GS.  God only
knows that there's a lot of machines _today_ that'd I'd prefer to a
Macintosh!

						---Joel Kolstad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: nevs@cs.tu-berlin.de (Sven Goldt)
Subject: Re: Assembly problems
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:24:58 GMT

Additions to the IRQ-loader:
You can only fetch a few bytes while loading in interrupt.
So load a file piece after piece.
I mean call iecin e.g. max. 40 times in a row.
Then call the playroutine for your sound and wait again
for the rasterline which shall trigger the next load.
You don't even need to do it in an interrupt procedure,
just do it between 2 rasterlines.  But try it out,what you prefer.


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From: peterb@gu.uwa.edu.au (Peter Broadribb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Wanted to buy (Perth, Australia): Xetec printer interface
Date: 8 Nov 1992 05:35:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: mackerel.gu.uwa.edu.au

Wanted: A Xetec SuperGraphix (Jr/Sr/Gold) printer interface to connect an
Epson compatible dot matrix printer to a Commodore 64 computer. Please
email or phone.
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From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:02:57 GMT

In article <BxEK70.7D3@cs.dal.ca> dinn@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael 'Moose' Dinn) writes:
>My favorite speech was...
>
>"Another visitor.... stay a while... stay FOREVER!!"
>
>That was a cool game. :)

Ah, yes "Impossible Mission."  Can't say I loved the speech.  Kind of 
annoying after you've heard it a bunch of times in a row.  :)  Like
when you keep getting killed...  Actually, a GREAT game.

One of my favorites was "Yousagi Yojimbo" (or something like that.)  You
had a samuri rabbit.  (And it was BEFORE the TMNT craze too :)

>--
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--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore)
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Reply-To: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 13:08:38 GMT

> Ahh.... The good old days of the 64. Some of my favourite games were:
> 
> Jumpman and Jumpman Jr. I used to spend HOURS slowly making my way through th
> levels. Some of them were very tough.  
> 
Oh yes...now I think I'll have to boot that up again!
 
Another great one is Space Taxi.  That was the first time I heard the 64 
talk..
"Pad 7, please!"
 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: nevs@cs.tu-berlin.de (Sven Goldt)
Subject: Re: Trouble with 1084 Monitor
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:03:29 GMT


The first 1084 i owned,has had problems with the line transformator,so
i bought a new transformator.Then it worked again.
I bought a second 1084 used really cheap,'cause it had problems with
the transformator,too ! I just soldered the contacts and now it works
100%.So this is a common failure with the 1084.The line
transformator loses contact. I mean the LINE Transformator,
High Voltage,it steers the video screen,not the power transformator.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: uet019@zx1.Darkcrystal.Cyberspace (Oliver B. Warzecha)
Subject: Re: Decreased seek times.
Reply-To: uet019@zx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de
Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:11:46 GMT

Sheun Olatunbosun (sheun@cs.city.ac.uk) wrote:
: In <1992Nov4.015117.7144@pimacc.pima.edu> ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu writes:
: 
: >In article <92308.181655K3027E7@ALIJKU11.BITNET>, K3027E7@ALIJKU11.BITNET writes:
: >> fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
: >> 
: >>>interleave.  The basic problem is GCR decoding.  I would venture to say
: >>>that it is impossible for a 1541 with standard 1 MHz processor to decode
: >>>a sector in less than the time it takes for FOUR sectors to rotate under
: >>>the head.  In fact, GCR decoding is one of the slowest parts of any
: >> Fast decoding in the 1541 is not possible due to lack of memory.
: >> If you transfer the sector undecoded to the C64 you can decode it
: >> there using tables for fast bit manipulation. During that the 1541 can
: >> already read the next sector.
: >> Thus it is possible to read and decode an entire track within 3 rotations.

(Stuff about "intelligent" drive deleted)

: In either case, I think the problem seems to be that the GCR
: encoding/decoding is done in the disk drive software and that the drive
: has limited RAM. If A LOT more RAM was available, I'm sure that more
: bulk data could be transferred to and from the computer before the need to
: read/write more sectors to disk. In addition, it could de possible to write
: lengthy routines in disk RAM to control the drive directly (and probably
: do MS-Dos formatting... he guesses). I'm assuming that any hardware vectors 
: can de modified such as in the C64 with its RAM banks and NMI/IRQ interrupts,
: etc
Here in Germany, some time ago, two people recognised just these problems
of the 1541 and wrote the speeder "prologic dos", which has exactly
these features:
- 2 MHz Operation of the 1541
- 8 K additional RAM in the drive
- Hardware-based GCR decoding
- Parallel data-transfer via 2 additional 6821 chips
Well what can I say - I work with it and the result is just fine:
202 Blocks loaded in ~4.4 seconds is the fastest you can achieve.
All other Operations are just as fast (Validating full disk in  ~15 s)
Oh - this is NO commercial advert, but while I've been reading the articles
in this thread I just recognised many of the things people were talking
about, and so I decided to come up with this, it might be interesting.
: 
: But finally, could someone throw some light on these questions.
: 
: At what serial rate is the data being transferred between the computer
: and the disk drive? 
I think it was ca. 300 cps with a standard 1541(old). I have heard the
1541-II is 10% faster or so.
: Also, is the C64's VIA 6522 chip communicating with a similar chip inside
: the disk drive?
Obviously you talk about the C64's CIA 6526, which is indeed communicating 
with a VIA 6522 in the 1541. 

OBW
uet019@zx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: misar@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (walter misar)
Subject: Re: Commodore PET - usage and software
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:13:13 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <11408@spark.ed.ac.uk>, roger@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Roger Burroughes) writes:
> 
> 	A request for those who wish to wallow in nostalgia...
> 
> 	I have recently acquired a couple of old CBM machines (which
> look like PETs, but don't have "PET" anywhere on the casing) - a model
> 3032 and a model 4016, plus a 2031 disk drive, Commodore cassette, and
> Commodore 4022 printer. Unfortunately there are no manuals with them
> at all :-( 

Oh, they should behave like PETs with some extensions. They should
have Basic Version 3.0 (or was it 4.0 ?) with commands like catalog (dir)
and so on (I can't remember any more now). Also they should have a builtin
monitor, invoked by a BRK ( 0x00, typically reached with 'sys 1024').
The monitor had no disassembling option :( but following commands (uncomplete)
m   hex-dump (could be edited then)
x   exit
r   show registers

I think 4016 stands for 40 chars per line/ 16 KB.

 

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Walter Misar
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From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore)
Subject: Re: Missing C=128 chip???
Reply-To: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:05:54 GMT

>      I have two 1985 C=128s and I wuld very much like to have the additional
> chip that the later C=128 and C=128D computers have.  Could anyone tell
> me where might I buy one (or even two)?  My dealer is not even aware of this 
> additional (or was it enhanced) chip that was installed to C=128D and Later
> C=128s.  Thanks.
 
As far as I know, what you are reffering to is upgraded video.  The 128D 
and the last of the flat 128s had 64k RAM for the 80 col display, while 
the standard was 16k.  Not a big deal unless you are into graphics (with 
the 64k, the 128 can pull off VGAA quality displays).
 
The standard chips are 4416's...replace with 4464 or equivalent. 
Naturally, these chips are soldered in.


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From: stlucas@gdwest.gd.com (Joseph St. Lucas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: help wanted on disk files
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:51:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.

I have a c128 w. 1541 drives and a 1581 drive.  I also have an old 
database program that uses relative file to write the data to the
1541 disk on tracks 1-16, and 20-35.  I want to move the data to my
1581 drive because, at one set of data per sector, I am using about 530 sectors and don't have a lot of room left on my disk.  The program is in assembly
so I'm not going to modify it.  Looking at the block read/write info for the
two drives, I can't see an easy way to transfer the data, taking into account
the differences in track/sector numbers on the 1541 and the nice constant
40 sectors/track on the 1581.  THe u1, u2 will load the sector into disk memory,
but then I need to send it to the other drive to write it out.
It looks like I'm stuck using a full blown block-read/write, trying to make sure
I don't lose the first byte of the data.
I could use Disk Doctor to read one sector and write it to the other drive,
but not 530 times. Am I missing something here?  Is there a magic application
out there that I can use to read 1541 sectors and  dump them (unchanged) to
a 1581 drive?

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,alt.religion.kibology
From: cs430117@ucs.usl.edu (Castor Christian A)
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Organization: Univ. of SW Louisiana, Lafayette
	<1992Nov09.192257.3313@dialogic.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:07:28 GMT

(from comp.sys.cbm)
>WOW WOW WOW!!!!  YES!!! I LOVE SPACE TAXI!!!!!!!  I CAN'T BELIEVE I DON'T HAVE
>IT ANYMORE!  I REMEMBER LENDING IT TO SOMEONE AND NEVER GETTING IT BACK.  THIS
>WAS YEARS AGO.  THAT WAS PROBABLY MY FAVORITE GAME NEXT TO JUMPMAN.  OH WHAT A
>GREAT MACHINE THE C64 IS.  IT'S STILL GREAT.  SOME THINGS ARE JUST TIMELESS.
>I'D WOULD PAY MONEY FOR SPACE TAXI AGAIN.  ANYONE HAVE A COPY??  ANYWAY...

Biff???/


       -- C.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
From: Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:31:01 EST
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy

In article <BxEK70.7D3@cs.dal.ca>, dinn@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael 'Moose' Dinn)
says:

>My favorite speech was...

>"Another visitor.... stay a while... stay FOREVER!!"

>That was a cool game. :)

I missed a lot of the really cool games people have been raving about
in this thread (Elite, Uridium, Psi-5... sigh.) But I DO have Impossible
Mission! Whenever I go home I pull the ol' C-128 out of the attic, fire
it up, and take one more whack at the Evil Underground Complex.

"Destroy him, my robots."
ZZZZZZRAKKKT! "WAAAAAAUUGGH!!"

Hours of family fun! :-) And probably some of the best sound I've heard
coming out of a C-64.

Anyway, I'm curious. Someone describe Psi-5 to me. It sounds nifty.

 "But Dr. Radium, was that necessary?" "Rez, _everything_ I do is necessary."
[Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions they'd probably try to charge me for it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: "p. colagiacomo" <p..colagiacomo@canrem.com>
Subject: selling
Reply-To: "p. colagiacomo" <p..colagiacomo@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:00:33 EST

A freind is selling a Commodore c64 System.  Below is the equipment that
the package contains of:

Commodore c64, 1541 Disk Drive (old type), 1670 1200 Baud Modem, 2400
Baud Modem, RS-232 Deluxe Interface, Star SR-15 Dot Matrix Printer (No
Interface For It), Jim Butterfields Book On Assembly Language, Mapping
The Commodore 64, 30+ Disks (Utils, Terms, Games).  Only 30 Disks
Because I Purchased The System A Month Ago And Got A IBM 2 Days Ago.

Selling The System All Together For $300.

Also The 2400 Baud Is A Supra.  The New Type, Not The Black Cased One.

If Interested Please Post Back To Me.
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From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Original Software
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:17:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu

Here is an address for anyone looking for original software at
low prices.  John has a 3-4 page listing of available software he
calls Commodore heaven, which you can receive on request.  You may want
to send him a SASE with two first class stamps.  Enjoy!

John Cunningham
690 Primrose Drive
Central Point, Oregon 97502
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