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From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: FAX Doors for BBS use.   
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:05:41 EST
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   >From: KRC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Keith R. Connors)
   >Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
   >Subject: FAX Doors for BBS use.
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KRC>I would like to add a FAX door to my BBS....  The program would have to sen
   >the FAX out AFTER the caller logged off (only one line).  If you have run o
   >or several could you tell me your experiences with each.

KRC>Also I would rather get it by FTP or Fidonet FREQ.  Thanks for any help you
   >can give me.

Doesn't (Registered) D'Bridge handle this?

Michael (mpearl@pes.com)
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From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:56:40 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

E2KP <E2KP@UNB.CA> writes:

> It uses a proprietary graphics
            ^^^^^^^^^^^
> standard, allowing the use of icons and a mouse over the term.
  ^^^^^^^^

Just what we were waiting for, another proprietary ``standard''.

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From: huna@bimacs.BITNET (Emmanuel Huna)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: 2 nodes or more.
Date: 25 Dec 92 11:03:29 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

Hello,

        I have been running a Remote Access BBS here in Tel-Aviv
 for a couple of months with only one node.  I am thinking of adding
 a second line (maybe even a third).
        Before I do that, I have a couple of questions :

        - I have a 286/25 Mhz.  With more than one node, will the
speed drastically decrease ?
        - I run many doors, will it be possible for two users to
run the same door at the same time ? Different doors ?  Do I need
more memory ? Speed ? Desqview/286 or some other multitasking utility ?
Or do I need to throw my 286, and buy a 386 ?

        Please answer here, or directly to me.  Thanks,

                                        Emmanuel Huna.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel)
Subject: Re: Hot file locations for InterNet
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:12:09 GMT

In article <R9m0VB5w165w@pes.com> Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com> writes:
>jensenm@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:
>
>> >> Does anyone know of any MS-DOS file location on InterNet?  (good ones)
>> >Good question... let me know what you come up with <G>...
>> The only good one I can find is WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL.
>
>Thanks!
>

I was waiting to see if anyone else would answer, but since no one has...

SIMTEL20 is one of the main sites for PD/Shareware MS-DOS stuff.  However,
it is usually busy and quite slow.  Some other locations that mirror
SIMTEL but are much easier to use include:

rigel.acs.oakland.edu, in directory /pub/msdos
nic.funet.fi, same directory
wuarchive.wustl.edu, in /mirrors/msdos

For Microsoft Windows, try ftp.cica.indiana.edu in /pub/pc/win3.

For harder-to-find files, archie might be of some help.  Telnet to
archie.rutgers.edu or archie.unl.edu and login as "archie".  Type
"help" and read the help screens for more info.

Also, try reading comp.os.msdos.  The monthly FAQ list should have
a list of sites in it.

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Call the Politically Incorrect BBS! (302) 837-8088 V.32bis/24hrs Fido 1:150/380
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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 02:02:31 CST
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com> writes:

> *However*, the world of GUI didn't begin until Apple "just did it".

Ahem.

You _do_ mean Xerox, don't you?
--
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   hard drive that's spent 6000 miles at the bottom of a canvas sack in a
            wooden sleigh powered by airborne reindeer?" -- me
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Patricia Snyder-Rayl)
Subject: Advertise your BBS in CONNECT
Organization: GREX Public Access Unix +1 313 761 3000
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 04:19:09 GMT



                    Advertise Your BBS in CONNECT!

CONNECT is a new magazine focusing on telecommunications from a user's
perspective, showing how to get the most from the places you call.  The
first bi-monthly issue of CONNECT will be available in March, 1993.
Deadline to get your BBS advertised in the premier issue of CONNECT is
January 31, 1993.

Issue after issue, CONNECT shows you how to get the most from the
commercial online services you're using -- CompuServe, Delphi, America
Online, Prodigy, GEnie and BIX. With columnists on staff to cover these
services in depth, you'll find CONNECT a valuable resource.

But CONNECT doesn't stop there. BBS callers also receive a wealth of
information from each issue. All varieties of computer platforms are
covered in the pages of CONNECT, as are the many different types of
bulletin board software and services found on these computers. Articles
spotlighting BBSes in specific cities or similar categories (such as
medical BBSes or handicapped-related systems) appear regularly.

Signing up your BBS is very simple and inexpensive. CONNECT offers a
choice of a one-line entry or a service ad, giving you blocks of 280
characters, to promote your BBS. 

For more information, and a copy of the BBS advertising form, please
contact Patricia Snyder-Rayl at 3487 Braeburn Circle, Ann Arbor, MI
48108, phone 313-973-8825, or via CIS (70007,4640), Delphi and GEnie
(unicornpub) or Internet (pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us).
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From: rcmerrit@apgea.army.mil (Robert C. Merritt <rcmerrit>)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:03:33 GMT
Organization: APG-Edgewood

In article <BzKL6I.K56@cs.psu.edu> fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
>In article <19DEC92.11913785.0035@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> E2KP <E2KP@UNB.CA> writes:
>| It does not allow users to log on with anything less than the term for
>| it or EGA/VGA graphics, although it will automatically prompt a user
>| to dl the term package if that happens.
>
>Brilliant.  Just what I want, when people with macs, amigas, commodores,
>ataris, terminals, and, oh yeah, a few PC's, call my board.
>
>Remember, folks, if you run an MS-DOS board, then no other hardware exists
>in the universe.
>
>  Bill


I run a MS-Dos board and I've TRIED to support other computers. Only Amiga
owners every did anything to help their systems. I eventually gave up
in frustration and only support Dos/windows/os2 machines now.

Rob Merritt

Opinions expressed here are mine alone.,
From: Pulse@sound.demon.co.uk (Kelvin Lawson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Date: 29 Dec 92 14:25:01 GMT
Reply-To: Pulse@sound.demon.co.uk
Organization: Sound & Vision BBS (UK) 0932 252323
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.20 $

>	Another think I'll add before I doddle off, RemoteAccess should be
>comming out with a similar product in a short while.  I.E. a month or
>two.  From what I understand, the maintanence is tough.  If RA can do the
>same thing and cut the maintanence down...

So RA1.20 will have a similar interface available ?? I haven't seen any 1.20beta
testers using this so I guess it must be hush-hush! I had heard, however, that
RA's author Andrew Milner had been speaking to the author of RoboBBS but I didn't
expect anything to come out of it...

Is this a totally new package or an option within RA?

                  -//-> Pulse@Sound.Demon.Co.UK <-\\-
From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Blue Wave
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:33:06 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

patlee@panix.com (Patrick Lee) writes:

> In article <u1gZVB4w165w@visavis.uucp> abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (
>  > 
>  > One problem though... BlueWave is the *only* .BW off-line reader
>  > available, right?  This forces people to use *it's* interface.  I
>  > personally prefer Deluxe2; it's faaaaasssst and has an "uncluttered"
>  > interface.
> 
> Right now, that appears to be the case although that will be
> changing.  The author of WinQwk, for example, is adding Blue Wave
> support into his Windows reader.  George Hatchew, author of Blue
> Wave, has stated that he will release his format once he gets
> some minor changes into it.  Also, he does have to support Blue
> Wave door on a few different BBS softwares and the reader, which
> just had a new version out (2.12).
> 
How can someone get in touch with George Hatchew??? I'd like to
get the format myself.

Thanks
Greg

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From: knight@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Knight Before Christmas)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: BBS under Windows
Summary: Looking for compatibility, in several wrong places{
Keywords: help help help
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:49:06 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation

Greetings, all.  I'm planning to start a BBS on my data line but I'm
also considering that the most effective way for me to run this BBS
without wasting my machine resources is to have it running under Windows 3.1.
At least, I have a lot of Windows software I can use while my BBS is 
running.

First of all, Sorry to whomever wrote PBBS for Windows -- it glitched way
too much on me.  

I am basically looking for some BBS package that runs CORRECTLY under
MS Windows 3.1 enhanced mode.  I'd prefer to use Maximus BBS, which I
am most impressed with, but it only works under standard mode.

If anyone knows of a BBS which fits that billing, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
(okay, I'll stop begging) let me know.  I've been holding up putting
it online only because of this problem, and I know there are people
on this network far more experienced than I on these matters.

Thanks in advance.

--  Eric Knight
From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:23:35 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

rob@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert J Barth) writes:

> I would like some sort of way for users to choose between the 2 - is this
> possible - is there some sort of menu I can run between FD & RA|RoboBBS ?
> At the moment I run it as a door from RA main menu, but it drops carrier when
> ends... can I disable this ?

To disable the carrier drop you need to do a couple of things.  It's
listed under  "T R O U B L E S H O O T I N G   U N D E R   D O S"
header.

There is something called "BBS Carousel"  that you could run after FD
detects a human caller.  That program would prompt the user what program
(what BBS) they would like to enter.


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: gforte@libws3 (Gregory Forte)
Subject: rime or fidonet on an internet bbs?
Reply-To: gforte@ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: Institute For Theoretical Physics
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:19:55 GMT

[ Article crossposted from alt.bbs ]
[ Author was  ]
[ Posted on Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:52:14 GMT ]



Is there a bbs that's connected to the internet (via telnet) that 
offers RIME or FIDONET conferences?

Thanks
Daniel Glasner


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From: flange@swamp.alt.ns.ca (Gurjeet Clair)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: 'best' BBS
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:12:14 GMT
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MP>Path: swamp!iisat!cs.dal.ca!nstn.ns.ca!news.ucs.mun.ca!csd.unb.ca!torn!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!uunet!pes!mpearl
MP>From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
MP>Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
MP>Subject: Re: 'best' BBS
MP>Message-ID: <sVqwVB1w165w@pes.com>
MP>Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:43:51 EST
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MP>ttocek@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Tomas Tocek) writes:

> I asked a similar question already, but let me rephrase it a little:
>
> What BBS package (from those free available on Simtel or Garbo) would
> you think is the best starter BBS ?????
> (for a novice sysop)

MP>Define "best" for me...  and "free"... we've all got our favorites,
MP>that's why we use them.  What operating system are you running, and
MP>what are you looking for in terms of features, security, reliability,
MP>number of lines, doors (externals), flexibility, etc.

   Personally I like Citadel.  It's PD, and is on a large network with other
Cits in NA, which is also free.  Cit was primarily designed as strong message
base, and Will not allow ANSI.  But it is quite good and sinple after about
a week of using it.

 -=The Flange=-
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: stmfarqu@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Michael J. Farquharson)
Subject: FTP Site for Maximus Utilities Requested!!!!!!
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 05:17:53 GMT

        I'm a Maximus 2.01wb SysOp and I have a lot of really good utility
programs for Maximus which I've picked up either from Long Distance sources
(BBSs) or from the Internet... Actually, I must be getting close to four
or five megs of zipped utilities by now.  I'm sure that there are some other
Maximus SysOps out there who would be interested in getting their hands on
these... and I'd like to get some new Maximus utilities as well.

        Does anyone know of an FTP site where I could upload these?  I mean
a place that would not delete them in a week... It'd be kind of nice to have
some place where all of the Maximus SysOps could get together and upload new
Utilities and download the old ones... If anybody can help me, or has enough
'pull' at an FTP site to set aside a directory, I, as well as a tonne of other
Maximus SysOps would be very grateful I'm sure... Thank You.

===============================================================================
Michael Farquharson  | Sysop:  Starbase 1 BBS, Sherwood, P.E.I., Canada
stmfarqu@upei.ca     | Phone:  (902)-628-1230
UPEI Engineering     | Running Maximus 2.01wb with SupraFAXModem 14.4
===============================================================================
From: kevinb@oblivion.csd.sgi.com (Kevin Brokaw)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: BBS under Windows
Keywords: help help help
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:59:32 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Dec30.174906.18596@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, knight@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Knight Before Christmas) writes:
|> I am basically looking for some BBS package that runs CORRECTLY under
|> MS Windows 3.1 enhanced mode.  I'd prefer to use Maximus BBS, which I
|> am most impressed with, but it only works under standard mode.

While I was waiting for a firmware upgrade to a new harddrive controller
which didn't like QEMM/Desqview, I ran my Wildcat 3.55P BBS (2 nodes) under
Windows 3.1 for a while (one local node, one com port locked at 19200 with
a V32bis modem, and a BinkleyTerm mailer frontend). While I can't say I 
particularly loved the speed of the sessions (I was, after all, running 
on only a 386DX-20), It was an acceptable stop-gap until I could run Desqview
again. Frankly, I'd recommend Desqview, as it's friendlier to comm-intensive
applications, and you can run Windows (albeit in standard mode... never tried
it in enhanced mode) from within a Desqview session). 
  The disclaimer here is that Wildcat is not free, nor is it cheap ( $99-$149
dollars for the single line version, depending upon what store you buy it 
in - I saw the $99 at Software Etc), and most utilities for it are also in 
the 50-99 dollar range. Figure a full setup with maintenance tools, and 
Fido-net style networking capabilities will set you back about 200-250. The
only good side of the cost is that they have provided excellent support to me
when I've needed it, including rebuilding my file database once when a 
drive glitch rendered it unreadable. Saved me at least 100 hours of having to
re-load all my files into the BBS. I'm sure others have had negative 
experiences, and it's not my aim to debate BBS software packages. Simply
put, I run Wildcat, and it worked fine under windows unattanded for a 
period of 2 months.
Cheers,
Kevin

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: morgan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Morgan T. Grammer)
Subject: DOORWAY 2.21 under VBBS 5.52
Summary: Problem using VBBS 5.52 and DOORWAY 2.21
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:22:16 GMT
Keywords: VBBS Doorway Shell

Hello All.
I have a problem I would like all of you to solve. I am running a bbs using
Virtual BBS 5.52, on a 286-12. I know the machine is old and outdated, but it
is all I have. The BBS works fine by itself, but when I use DOORWAY 2.21, a 
"shell" utility, the BBS will decide to crash randomly. I know DOORWAY is a 
pretty popular program, because a lot of terminal programs like the one I use,
support DOORWAY Alternate Keyboard Settings. The VBBS 5.52 manual even
recommended using DOORWAY. I am curious if anyone else has had the same 
problems, and what they did to correct it. Suggestions?
-Morgan
From: jruschme@opus.starlab.csc.com (John Ruschmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Popular BBS Software
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:25:41 GMT
Organization: A LIFO

In article <64938@mavenry.UUCP> maven@mavenry.UUCP (Norman Hamer) writes:
> Breakdown for MavenCit 
> (Bored programmer at work) 
>  
> PRICE: 
> Freeware.  

(Sorry to post this, but mail to you bounced.) 
Where could I get a copy of this package? 

<<<John>>>

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: BBS under Windows
Keywords: help help help
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:00:21 GMT

In <1992Dec30.174906.18596@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> knight@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Knight Before Christmas) writes:

>Greetings, all.  I'm planning to start a BBS on my data line but I'm
>also considering that the most effective way for me to run this BBS
>without wasting my machine resources is to have it running under Windows 3.1.
>At least, I have a lot of Windows software I can use while my BBS is 
>running.

>First of all, Sorry to whomever wrote PBBS for Windows -- it glitched way
>too much on me.  

>I am basically looking for some BBS package that runs CORRECTLY under
>MS Windows 3.1 enhanced mode.  I'd prefer to use Maximus BBS, which I
>am most impressed with, but it only works under standard mode.

This is news to me.  I've run Maximus 2.0 in a DOS box in Enhanced
Mode under Windows 3.1.  It not only runs correctly, but you can run
multiple lines if you set it up right, with real-time chat between the
nodes.

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From: kevinb@oblivion.csd.sgi.com (Kevin Brokaw)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: RoboBoard BBS
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:12:09 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

|> rob@sound.demon.co.uk (Robert J Barth) writes:
|> 
|> > I would like some sort of way for users to choose between the 2 - is this
|> > possible - is there some sort of menu I can run between FD & RA|RoboBBS ?
|> > At the moment I run it as a door from RA main menu, but it drops carrier when
|> > ends... can I disable this ?


I know this can be done with BinkleyTerm as a front-end mailer, and I assume
it can be done with FrontDoor. Most mailers have a capability of recognizing
more than just the FTSC poll or the escape key when a caller connects.. for
example, when I had both WAFFLE and Wildcat running under Binkley, coded a 
couple of statements in binkley's config like so:

ExtrnMail 140 wc
ExtrnMail 150 wa

And I also created a Binkley.ban file to show a menu of sorts, telling users 
to enter "wc" for Wildcat, and "wa" for waffle. 5 extra lines of code in 
my controlling batch file for each choice, and I was set. I'm pretty sure 
FrontDoor allows for the same type of function, although the process/syntax 
is almost certainly different than Binkley. At any rate, it worked quite 
well as a front-end for me. All I'd suggest is that you increase the default
"wait time" for your mailer (period it will wait without any caller input
before it assumes the caller is human and takes the default BBS path) to a long
enough interval to ensure the caller has time to read and react to your menu.
The default times of 15-20 seconds for mailers are not quite long enough in 
most cases.
Cheers,
Kevin 



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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs