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Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Tue,  7 Apr 1992 15:35:34 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Attention:MoSTE students


    The office of the Science and Technology Counsellor(OSTC), Royal
Thai Embassy informed me this morning that students (MoSTE scholarship)
are welcomed to attend the Thai Professional conference in California.(I
posted detail about this conference a month ago in this netwews). 
Anyone who're interested in attending this conference, please write a
letter to the student's department, Royal Thai Embassy, requesting a
permission and reimbursement.

    Please contact the student's department as soon as possible.(the
number is limited).  OSTC originally plans to invite just
professionals(Currently 30-40 applied).  I believe that student's
participation in this conference will be significant and useful. 

Regards,
Schitt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: RIS grads?
From: yudhbir@paris.cs.miami.edu (Lalit Yudhbir)
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:25:40 GMT
Distribution: fl
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics & Computer Science, University of Miami
NNTP-Posting-Host: paris.cs.miami.edu

Any RIS grads on the net? If there are, whas goin on? Was there for
a few years myself
Organization: Doctoral student, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:28:27 -0400 
From: Lertsak Lekawat <ll28+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Test

Test


Terh at CMU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Asian Develpment Bank Growth Forecast (fwd from SEASIA-L)
Keywords: ADB
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 08:45:11 GMT


Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seasia-l
Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:35:24 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      ADB Growth Forecasts
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu

    Reuter, Manila, April 10 - The Asian Development Bank (ADB) gave the
following projections for growth in real gross domestic product (GDP)
and inflation for 1992 and 1993 (in pct):

                              GDP             Inflation
                       1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
   NICs                 7.3   7.1   7.1     7.7   7.2   6.6
 Hong Kong              4.0   5.8   6.0    12.3  10.5   8.5
 South Korea            8.3   7.3   7.1     9.7   9.4   8.5
 Singapore              7.0   6.1   7.0     3.4   3.0   3.0
 Taiwan                 7.3   7.5   7.7     3.5   3.4   3.7

                               GDP             Inflation
                       1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
 North Asia             7.0   7.8   7.5     3.0   7.0   6.0
  China                 7.0   7.8   7.5     3.0   7.0   6.0
  Mongolia            -18.0  -6.0  -1.5   130.0  50.0  30.0

                               GDP             Inflation
                        1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
Southeast Asia           5.9   6.7   7.1     8.8   8.1   7.1
   Burma                 3.7   4.0   4.1    28.7  26.0  25.0
   Indonesia             6.4   6.7   7.0     9.2   9.0   8.0
   Laos                  4.0   7.1   5.9    10.4   9.5   9.0
   Malaysia              8.6   8.5   8.0     4.5   5.0   5.0
   Philippines          -1.0   2.8   4.3    17.7  13.0   9.0
   Thailand              7.5   8.0   8.1     5.8   6.0   6.0
   Vietnam               3.8   5.0   4.5    78.9  45.0  20.0

                                GDP             Inflation
                         1991  1992  1993    1991  1992  1993
 South Asia               2.7   4.6   5.0    14.6   8.9   8.3
   Bangladesh             3.3   4.7   5.2     7.4   9.1   9.2
   Bhutan                 3.5   4.0   4.6    11.5  10.5  10.0
   India                  2.0   4.3   4.8    14.4   7.5   7.0
   Nepal                  4.0   3.5   4.0    15.4  16.0  12.0
   Pakistan               6.5   6.7   7.2    12.2   8.0   7.0
   Sri Lanka              5.0   5.9   5.6    12.0  11.0  10.0

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: Music for "Khanamnom"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:01:39 GMT

Thanks those who wrote in and suggested some corrections in the s.c.t. I
also got a letter directly sent to me concerning some mistakes I have made
in my original posting. Here are some of them:


>MaeNeeMeeBunKunAanYaiLuang	TiiFawHuangHuangLookThaeLungMueYangNonPhay
>MaeRowFawO-LaHey		KhomLookNoiNonPhayMaiHangHanHayPaiJonKhai
                                                   (Tai=dead)        ^^^^
>
>MueLekJonTowOhMaeThanom		MaiPaiPomYomKirdJarkRukLookPhagDuangJai
 ^^^ (Tae)
>TerbTowOhLekJonYai		NiiLaeNaaA-raiMiChaiDaiNaaPowKaaNamNom
>

I really didn't remember the whole song but simply copy the words from the
song book I have. I assume that this remarks would probably represent 
a better version. Khun Wisasinee or others who likes to make use of this
song, would you please make any necessary adjustments?
From: nupairoj@loach.cps.msu.edu (Natawut Nupairoj)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai lang. software for Unix?
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:36:02 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University

In article <sjfa0INN7b3@network.ucsd.edu>, jimmy@info.com (Jim Gottlieb) writes:
|> Excuse me if this is a FAQ...
|> 
|> Is there any Thai word processing software that could run on a Sun
|> workstation?  A professor from Thailand will be visiting soon and has
|> mentioned that it would be nice if she could have use of a computer for
|> a writing project she is working on.
|> 
|> Thank you...
|> 
|> Jim Gottlieb
|> jimmy@info.com

Some of my friends use TeX as a text formatter for Thai documents.  I don't
have it now but I will have to get it soon.  Anyway, I don't think it's easy
to use.

By the way, can anyone (probably in Thailand) contact Krasetsart U. ?  As far
as I know, their project, Thai Kernel System, is also based on X window.  It 
will be nice if we have it here (in the USA).

Natawut.
nupairoj@cps.msu.edu
From: k34236v@puukko.hut.fi (Paul von Heiroth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Thai magazines
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:57:37 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

My friend will visit Thailand next month and I am going to ask her to
make a subscription of a Thai magazine for me. My problem is that I
don't know too many magazines in Thailand. My reason to subscribe to 
a magazine is because I want to practise my reading in Thai.

Does anybody know if the magazine "Generation" is still being published?

Does anybody know of any computer magazines in Thailand(about pc's etc))?
What kind of subjects does the magazine cover and what is the address of
the publisher?

A few months ago somebody posted a list of different magazines in Thailand.
If somebody still has that list, I would appreciate if he/she could send it
to this group or to me personal.

Thank you for your kind help,
Paul von Heiroth
k34236@puukko.hut.fi
From: wila@hougen.seas.ucla.edu (Wilasinee Chunbomrung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Music for "Khanamnom"
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:52:34 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <9210322.20711@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> noi@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Nittida Nuansri) writes:
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Just take a break from political issues for a while, since we've come across
>this matter (Kha nam nom).  I'd like to know what do you feel when you sing
>or here this song while you are very far away from Mae.  I really miss her (Mae)
>and feel like crying.  May be it's silly.  How about all of you?

Yeah, a break!  I second that, Khun Nittida.  :-)   

I only heard the first few lines of the song, and I think it was very
sad.  "Sad" seems an understatement, but I just can't think of an appropriate
word to describe it fully.   I like the song very much, and I think it would 
be very fitting to sing it on Mother's Day for UCLA Thai Cultural Night.

As to whether or not one would miss one's mother when hearing this song,
I guess it depends on what kind of mother you had when you were growing up.
Don't get me wrong--I DO miss my Mom very much even though she passed away 
a long time ago. 

IMHO, I don't think it's silly if you feel like crying because I came to
shedding some tears myself when I heard it.

-Wila
--
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Wilasinee Chunbomrung                                  wila@seas.ucla.edu
UCLA--School of Engineering & Applied Science          work (310) 206-6864
Computing Facilities, 2567 Boelter Hall   (The above comments are my own...)
From: panya@sl.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Panyarak Ngamsritragul)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Domain names in Thailand? Need opinions
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:29:47 GMT
	<1942@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
	<9209318.12751@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
Organization: Sakai-Kamata Lab., Dept. of Mech. Eng., Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.
In-reply-to: noi@cs.mu.OZ.AU's message of 2 Apr 92 08:40:52 GMT


In article <9209318.12751@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> noi@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Nittida Nuansri) writes:

  >>What the author of the message which I inluded in my article wanted to here
  >>from  us is that if it is reasonable to name a domain name as 'ac' instead of
  >>'edu'.

The most important thing in setting a domain name is to make it as short as
possible.  In this case it is preferable to use ac.th instead of edu.th.
The difference is only one character !!  Not very important, but if you
choose edu.th, then I think others will be com.th, mil.th, org.th, etc.

For me, I would prefer ac.th, co.th, or.th, mi.th,  just because they are
short and can maintain the meanings.

-Panyarak
From: psuttiyo@metz.une.oz.au (Peerasak Suttiyotin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Suchinda nominated as new PM
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:04:22 GMT
Organization: University of New England, Armidale, Australia
Originator: psuttiyo@metz.une.oz.au

In article <1992Apr6.064926.2444@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> 
ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong) writes:

>..........................................
>
>If this analogy applies to the current episode of Thai politics, one must try
>to match the characters. How about this?
>
>	Ta-In  = the opposition party's choice for the PM
>	Ta-Na  = sounds like Ta Na(rong), isn't it?
>	Ta-Yoo = Big Su?
>
>I am a bit reluctant to buy this analogy since the three characters in the
>original story cited by Khun Peerasak are INDEPENDENT from one another.
>In our case, TaN(rong) has apparently been chosen by TaYoo to come out
>to check the "tide."  There was no really fighting between TaIn and TaNa(rong)
>in the first place. It is obvious that TaYoo would like to get the whole
>fish, not just the body, but head and tail as well.

I think, TaIn & TaNa was trying to get the fish.  Apparently, TaNa who 
has more MP want the head, so TaIn was about to force to take the tail.
TaYoo was looking not far behind and keep saying "I don't want it" but
never go away.  In fact TaIn & TaNa didn't fight that heavy and TaYoo
cannot wait so he just burried TaNa with 'drug issue'.  He was wrong in
that he should have let TaIn & TaNa fight until nobody can win and he
would come back as a hero.  Unfortunately, TaNa was likely to win so
he decided to kick TaNa off his way.  And now, TaYoo is going to be 
another 'TaNa' and has to fight for the head.  It was a big mistake.

Peerasak
psuttiyo@metz.une.oz.au
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Someone is saying
"No I don't sell fish, I 'am' selfish."
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From: wila@hougen.seas.ucla.edu (Wilasinee Chunbomrung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Music for "Khanamnom"
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:33:21 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <kuejoiINN9uf@caldera.usc.edu> boonkong@caldera.usc.edu (Arpakorn Boonkongchuen) writes:
>
[stuff deleted]
>
>I just want to correct some minor mistakes(IMHO).   Even though I am not
>the original poster, I want to say thank to Khun Samart who spent time
>doing this and sharing it with us.
>
>Arpakorn

...and I would like to publicly thank you too, Khun Arpakorn, for your help
in this matter.   Sorry for the delay; I just got into news 10 mins ago. 

Like what I wrote to you in the email, I think it would be great for the
Thai students from the So CA universities/colleges to get together and 
put on some type of a group-effort event, right?  Just because the public
has labeled USC and UCLA students as "life-time enemies", we don't have to go
along with them.  We should work together somehow, IMHO.

-Wila

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Wilasinee Chunbomrung                                  wila@seas.ucla.edu
UCLA--School of Engineering & Applied Science          work (310) 206-6864
Computing Facilities, 2567 Boelter Hall   (The above comments are my own...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: Music for "Khanamnom"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:18:45 GMT

wila@seashell.seas.ucla.edu (Wilasinee Chunbomrung) writes:

>Sawasdee kha,

>..........meterials deleted.................................

>Originally, we would like to have a chorus to sing the song
>"KhaNumNom", but we were unable to find the music for it.
>Since our program is on Mother's Day, we feel it's appropriate
>to sing the song.   I was wondering if anyone might have the
>lyrics (preferably written in English) and the tape to this song.
>I will personally pay for the shipping within the US.  Please
>email me if you can help us with this dilemma.

>I would deeply appreciate your help.

>Khop khun kha,
>Wila

Khun Wilasinee Krub,
	I do not have the tape with me now though I will try to ask around
if anyone has it. I, however, happen to find the words for that song which
might be used for your planned performance. Here they are:

KaNamNom
Sung by Somyos Tasanapan

MaeNeeMeeBunKunAanYaiLuang	TiiFawHuangHuangLookThaeLungMueYangNonPhay
MaeRowFawO-LaHey		KhomLookNoiNonPhayMaiHangHanHayPaiJonKhai

MueLekJonTowOhMaeThanom		MaiPaiPomYomKirdJarkRukLookPhagDuangJai
TerbTowOhLekJonYai		NiiLaeNaaA-raiMiChaiDaiNaaPowKaaNamNom

KuanKidPinidHaiDee		KaaNamNomMaeNeeJaaMeeA-raiMowSom
OhWaaMaeJaaLookKidTuengKaaNamNom  LuedNaiOakPaaSomKhanPhenNamNomHaiLookDuemKhin

KaaNamNomKuanChuanHaiLookFung 	ThaeMueLungPhriebDungPhuenFaaNagGuaPhaenDin
PuadRienPargPienChonSin		YodNuengNamNomKhinThodTaenMaiSinPraKunMaeUey

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Notes: I use -h to represent unaspirated consonant, e.g. kh => KhawKhai, 
       ph => PhawPhla.

Next is my attempted translation. Be prepared for correcting some mistakes!!
===========================

The Value of Mother's Milk

===========================

Sung By Somyos Tasanapan

Mothers have such great merit,		
They take care of us from the crib,
Our mothers sing lullabies, 
To sooth us to sleep while they stay at our side.

From youth to maturity, she cares,
Thin due to her devotion to her only love,
That loved one grows,
By the quality the her milk.

Consider well,
The value of mother's milk, whatever could equal it?
Oh, mother dear, I miss your milk,
The blood in your breast turned to milk for me.

Children, realize the value of your mother's milk.
Her back is like the sky but heavier than the earth,
Thus be deligent, enter the monkhood, try your best,
Even so, you can never repay the value of just one drop of mother's  milk.

Disclaimer: This is not an official translation. In fact, it might be called
	    "Saturday Morning" translation. Aided and abetted by Dan Guyot,
	    a farang whose Thai is inconceivable!!!
	     
	    
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Tue,  7 Apr 1992 15:45:54 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:Attention:MoSTE stdents


    I forgot to mention in my previous post that MoSTE students who're
eligible to attend the Thai Professional Conference MUST be in USA.


Schitt
From: charoe@issm1.memst.edu (Charlie Charoenwong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: US 'Backs' Suchinda and Tear from a Crocodile
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:02:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: memstvx1.1992Apr8.210246.1775
Organization: Institute for the Study of Security Markets, Memphis State Univ

Repost from SEASIA

From: "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list SEASIA-L <SEASIA-L@MSU>
Status: R

    Reuter, Washington, April 8 - The United States on Wednesday said it
accepted as constitutional the selection of the general who led last
year's coup as Thailand's next prime minister.
    While acknowledging General Suchinda Kraprayoon's appointment was
just short of official, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Margaret
Tutwiler said:
    "We look forward to working productively with the new government.
The choice of prime minister is up to the Thai people and we respect
that process. It is my understanding that he was selected in accordance
with the Thai constitution."
    Asked if the United States was troubled that the general, who
overthrew a democratically elected government, would now lead that
government, Tutwiler said:
    "We welcome the return to constitutional processes and the formation
of a new government, and...we are respecting the Thai people. This is
their process, this is their choice."
    For the moment, U.S. aid, halted after the coup, will not be
resumed.
    "We cannot resume aid or cannot make a determination until the new
government has been formed...It is further my understanding that they do
not have a new government until he appoints his cabinet, which is still
yet to be done," Tutwiler said.

From: "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Suchinda Weeps at Farewell
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list SEASIA-L <SEASIA-L@MSU>
Status: R

   AP, Bangkok, April 8 - New Prime Minister Gen. Suchinda Kraprayoon
on Wednesday bade a tearful farewell to army colleagues and met with
leaders of the parties that will form his government.
   His appointment was approved by the king on Tuesday.
   Suchinda wept as he replied to congratulatory remarks by deputy army
commander Gen. Issarapong Noonpakdi, who is expected to take over the
commander's post on Thursday. By law, Suchinda had to resign his posts
as army and armed forces commander to accept the prime minister's job.
   Suchinda reportedly said he would refuse to appoint any politicians
found guilty of corruption by a committee established by the junta after
the coup. Several senior members of the coalition backing him had assets
seized by the committee.
   But on Tuesday, he hinted that he might be willing to compromise in
the case of politicians who won re-election two weeks ago.
From: MARTIN%FRSIM51.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: re: US 'Backs' Suchinda and Tear from a Crocodile
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:24:48 GMT
Reply-To: @mitvma.mit.edu:MARTIN@FRSIM51.BITNET
Organization: DEC Palo Alto
To: SOC.CULTURE.THAI.USENET

Khun Perrasak writes:

>Thank you very very much for listening our voices.
>But why TaNarong was about to get the fish, the 'drug issue' suddenly
>came out.  It was just at the right place at the right time.
>Listen again.  When TaSuchinda was about to get the same fish,
>the 'green light' was on.  And you said 'you are respecting the Thai
>people. This is our (Thai) process, this is our (Thai) choice'.
>
>Listen.  This sounds like a BullShit to me :(

Agreed. I'm very sad to see the Thai government is now conscientiously obeying
the orders coming from Washington. What a pity to watch people being so proud
of never having been colonized by western countries (and I can understand that)
accepting that Washington knows which Prime Minister is good and which one is
no good for them.

I was sort of hoping that the reaction would be : "mind your own drugs
traffickers, your own rotten politicians, you have quite a lot of them. Mind
your own social problems, your own poverty, the situation of poor people in the
U.S. is not much better than in Thailand. Stop giving the whole Earth lessons
of morality.  Mind your own business, we're not Panama, we're not Kuwait."

I like Thailand so much. Too bad :-( :-(

                                                        -- Eric
From: 9202033j@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Chiu-wen Tseng )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai Songs.
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:41:27 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University


Sawassdee Krub

Again, I need to thank Khun Samart Srijumnong very very much for the
songs I requested. I can only say that it is very very great, it makes
me miss home and someone at home. Although my friends who sit near me
feel boring when I sing the songs you posted in the news, I don' care
and I really enjoy doing that.

>WippayokSokJaiMuenMueKhlaiBan           KhlaiSatanParkPingYingJaiNgaw
>HangKhlaiHuaJaiJumSao                   JawYooDeePhenChanai

>PludTeePuengTeePingTingPeePumnark       KhlaiTeeRakParkPaaJaAre-sai
>JawMeePuenChomKonMai                    LaewTingPeeHaiChokChamCheeWee

>ArnRakKanYooKhlaiTuengSoodKobFaa        MuenChaiKaaKawMaaBiadDooSiadSee
>ArnChangKanNanKhlaiSakOngKulee          KhorMuenMeeNaewPhaaMaaPhidBang

>PrawKhlaiBanSarnMaaTowNidJaJaw          JaNgiebNgawLaewLeumSinKwamLang
>FargPiengSiengKhrasipSang               KawNongYaaChangKonRangRaemKhlai

>BanRaoSaenSookJai
>MaeJaYooTiNaiMaiSookJaiMuenBanRao
>KamWaThaiSuengJaiMiChaiTasKao           DueyPraBaraMeeLonKhlao
>KoomRaoRomYenSookSan

>ToongTipFaaKlibTong                     RiewDadSongSodSai
>GnamJarbJaiMiChaiFun
>KhunSathreeSomPenSeeChartCherdChan
>DogMaiChartThaiYuedMun                  HomTookWanRaPueKhlai

>BoonNumPaa                              KhrubMaaTuengTin
>SootKhaiLongJoobDin                     MaiTawinEyeKrai
>HuaJaiChanKraiRubFargAweWai             JargKanSaenKhlai
>YungKhebWaiRuePhlao

>MegJaaChanWaWeyJai                      KhorWanNoiDaiMai
>LoiLongPhaiYungBanKhao
>JongYoodPargLaewRawRubFargJarkKhao
>WaaChanKuenMaaBanKhao                   KhorYuedAweWaiPenRuenTai


Khob Khun Mag Mag Krub

Chua-Nid-Nirun.