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From: machcha@snn.ucsd.edu (Ashok R. Machcha)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american
Subject: Urgent - Help regarding F-1 Visa
Date: 29 Sep 1992 17:48:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Distribution: na
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Keywords: F-1 Visa


	URGENT - Help needed regarding F-1 Visa
	****************************************

	Hi,

	I need information/advice to help  a friend of mine who is an
	undergraduate on an F-1 visa. Could somebody, who knows something
	about such situations please send email to me.

		He has been here for the past 4.5 years and still
	has to take 3 courses this Fall to complete his undergraduate
	requirements in Mechanical Engg. here at UCSD. He had
	transferred here from some State College in Fall 1990. 
	He went to India in August because his grandmother was quite ill.
	His Uncle and Aunt who are citizens here had sponsored
	him for his studies. He has now been denied a visa at the
	Madras consulate. The consular officer denied him the visa after
	asking him why he was taking 5 years, as opposed to the usual 4 years 
	required for the Undergraduate degree. The deadline for
	enrollment is just 10 days away for this quarter.

	His uncle had called the Consulate but he did not get a positive
	response.
 	
	One of his friends has already done the following:

	1. Got a letter from the Foreign student advisor at UCSD stating
	that he still has to complete three courses to complete the
	requirements so that he can graduate by Dec.15,199 and that
	his academic standing has been good until now. 

	2. Another letter from the Provost of the college to which
	he belongs in UCSD, stating the same things as above.

	3. Another letter from a Professor in the Department saying
	  that it is normal for many students take 5 years in the
	  in the Engineering Dept.

	All the letters were addressed to the Consulate General
	urging him to grant the visa and are being FAXed to the
	Consulate.

	His Aunt was thinking about contacting some Senators.


	Could somebody PLEASE advise us on what else could be done
	from here to expedite the matter. Any help will be greatly
	appreciated.

	Thanks in advance,

	- ashok

        email:  machcha@ceam.ucsd.edu   
                machcha@mechanics.ucsd.edu     
                am299cp@sdcc15.ucsd.edu

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From: gyuwono@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gunawan Yuwono)
Subject: The address of the Department of State
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:27:10 GMT

I am so glad that there are so many people asked for the address of the United
States Department of State. But I am really sorry that I can't e-mail all of 
you one by one. So I like to post it here.

               Visa Bulletin
               Visa Office, Department of State
               Washington, D.C. 20522-0113

Just send a letter and ask them to put your address into their mailing list.

By the way, this Visa Bulletin is a free subscription and is published monthly.
That's all folks .....!!!!! I hope you'll find this bulletin useful.
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From: spel@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse)
Subject: visa for medical practitioners
Organization: Katatura State Hospital, Windhoek, Namibia
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:11:03 GMT

I read the other day that there have been changes to the
immigration laws recently in respect to medical practitioners.


Anybody got some more info?


Please e-mail (and post)


regards, el
-- 
Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse    \          /                   (spel@hippo.ru.ac.ZA)
Katatura State Hospital   \        |                            (el@lisse.NA)
Dept of Obstetrics & Gyn   \ *    /                         Private Bag 13215
Windhoek, Namibia           ;____/ (postmaster@uonamib.NA) Postmaster NAmibia
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From: pehng@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Peh Ng)
Subject: H-1B Visa stamp at US Embassy in Malaysia
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:09:40 GMT
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:35:42 GMT

0.5% of the U.S. population owns 48.4% of the assets. 1% owns 61.8% and 10%
owns 91.7%. -- Source: Arthur B. Kennickell,_ Demographics & Household Savings_

-- 
I am the paper-cut that ruins your morning. . .
I am the ingrown nail on the foot of crime
I am the squashed bug on your flying saucer widshield.
I am the moth that seeks your porch light.
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: God???? or just a bit of blind luck?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:24:55 GMT

jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:
}Did jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu really type:
}   > 
}   > i even have a 2 point proof that can disprove a god....
}   > 
}   > One being that the standard Christian faith believes that god
}   > is all-knowing and all powerful. here is my proof.
}
}[Grade school postulates deleted for berevity.]

my point was simple....that the typical Christian God
cannot exist...att it takes aare grade school postulates to
do that.... *grin*

}*yawn*.  Logical absurdity.  Please, take a course in logic.
}(And no, I am not of the flock...)

sorry..i have better things to do with my $11k a year i spend
on college.......

Jester
SOGDAC
-- 
I am the single career man all women want to date!
I am the icky bug that crawls up your trouser leg.
I am the pin that bursts your bubble.
I am the butter that melts in your pan!
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From: stas@netcom.com (Stanislav Malyshev)
Subject: '92
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 23:09:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa


I prefer, and I am unanimous in this :), a smaller bureaucracy to a
spending congress.

It seems Bush is much more likely to do something to that effect than Clinton,
but then again Bush hasn't done too many things during the administration.
But that is not surprising given the congress stalemate and the lame
cabinet.

I think people should do less liberal-press-inspired Bush-bashing and
consider whether they like the certain "Economic Democracy" or "socialism" 
(call it what you may) of Clinton, or a less intrusive gov't that Bush
is promising.

The size of government seems to be the biggest dividing issue between the
platforms:

lots of money for schools (paid in the coffers of administrators)
vs
vouchers for school choice

institutionalized health care - huge bureacracy
vs
cheaper health-care - due to litigation control

big defense cuts
vs
smaller cuts

blank check to Congress
vs
curtailment of spending

gobs of welfare
vs
less welfare and more job incentives

etc etc

And I believe it was Biden (Dem, chair of Senate Judicial Committee)
who was pushing the ban-encryption thing.  Die bastard!  Long live public key.


-S
-- 

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From: sl9b4@cc.usu.edu (Deep Six)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: God???? or just a bit of blind luck?
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:56:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <Bv97xI.4zr@acsu.buffalo.edu>, (Anthos) writes:

> There is an investigation going on right now as to why there are more books
> in the New Testament after the middle ages than before.

On a similar note, I always watch with interest when debate about the Dead
Sea Scrolls arises. Although I was pretty young, I seem to remember hearing
a lot about the scrolls in the late 70's and early 80's, but now discussion
about them sort of comes and goes. 

Anyway, I saw a documentary which discussed the scrolls about 2 months ago.
The writers of the scrolls often used nicknames and aliases to write about
characters who are named openly in the New Testament (Jesus, John the Baptist,
the apostles, etc.). Well, one interprutation of these aliases tells quite 
a different story than the Bible. In the scrolls, John the Baptist becomes
disgusted at Christ's departure from the Law of Moses, thinking that the new
``spirit of the law'' is too lax.'' In fact, John and Christ become rival 
teachers, each trying to win more converts than the other.

What was most interesting is the Dead Sea Scrolls recounting of Christ's 
``death.'' I am going on memory here, so excuse any mistakes. If memory serves,
the crucifiction went like this: First, because Christ and the thieves were
crucified on Friday, they could not (by Jewish Law) be left out on sabbath. 
For that reason, the Roman guards tried to hasten the death of all three. 
They broke the legs of the thieves and gave Christ poison. However, the poison
only put Christ into a coma, and he was thought dead. He was taken from the 
cross, but one of the ``gang'' (one of the apostles) detected that Christ 
was alive. So, when they put him the tomb, a couple of them stayed in and 
nursed him back to conscienseness. I seem to remember one of the things they 
gave him to recover was mir (ironic, eh?). So, after three days, one of the 
people who stayed in the tomb sneaked out and told Mary that Christ had been
brought back to life. Mary came back and Christ came out under the observation
of a Roman guard. The point was, anyway, that a work of ``scripture'' told
of how Christ death and ressurection was faked. I might have some details 
confused, but I thought it was germane.

Okay,
Minister of Redundancy, Redundancy Department Chief
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chadd VanZanten SL9B4@CC.USU.EDU + ``I'm a walking nightmare, an arsenal of 
doom. I kill conversation as I walk into a room.'' --Police, Demolition Man
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Subject: Re: <None>
From: djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson)
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:13:34
Organization: People Named Chuck Anonymous
In-reply-to: Mark Beirne Lively's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:35:19 -0400 Lines: 22


In article <AemUy7u00awJMFPoY0@andrew.cmu.edu> Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
.>And should a 12 year old kid be allowed to divorce his parents?  
	.well the reasoning behind it was that he was taking a step in
.inatiating an action which shouild have been done by the social
.services.  They did not deem it necessisary for him to be permantly
.removed form his parents custody.  But appearently the courts did.  It
.sets a frightening precident which is about to be repeated in Louisana. 
.I think that he should be able to but it should never come to that.  IT
.may cause a flood of cases resulting in rich people stealing the perfect
.child through the courts.

I can't imagine a "perfect child" developing in a family which is so
whacked that they kid divorces its parents, but I spose if that is the
sort of child that Mr. Rich Guy wants...

We'll probably here about [whatzisname] taking out a K-Mart in a few
years, but hopefully not.  (if he's 12 then most of the damage is
already done)

--  Daniel Johnson  djohnson@cayenne.gac.edu  --
    Grandiose Pontiff of Misplaced Hostility
From: 2y16mulsoffr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: WELL WELL WELL (VERY DEEP SUBJECTS)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 20:18:29 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2y16mulsoffr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsb.csd.mu.edu

<I GUESS THAT IF A KED REAALY FEELS THAT HE CAN'T LIVE WITH HIS
PARENTS AND OTHER RELATIVES <NOTE THE QUALIFIER) ARE WILLING TO TAKE
THE POOR CHILD IN, THEN TS OK.  I KNOW THAT MY WIFE WISHED SHE COULD
DIVORCE HER PARENTS- ONE AN ALCHOHOLIC, THE OTHER IS MANIC DEPRESSIVE.
THE COMBINATION OF TE TWO PUT HER IN THE HOSPITAL MANY TIMES, AND
SHE SUFFERED A MENATL BREAKDOWN HER JUNIOR YEAR IN HIGH SHCOLL BEACUSE 
OF THE STRESS.  SHE TRIED TO MOVE IN WITH OTHER REALTIVES, BUT THE COURTS
KEPT PUTTING HER BACK AT HOME (HELL). 

I GUESS MAYBE THERE ARE CASES WHERE DIVORCING YOUR PARENTS IS NEEDED.

WONKO THE SANE, KING OF THE CONSERVATIVE TROLLS
From: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: God???? or just a bit of blind luck?
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:44:12 GMT
Reply-To: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Ryo Silen)
Organization: Silen's Publishing Inc., Jaern
Disclaimer: as usual...


 In article <37164@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:
>......
>*yawn*.  Logical absurdity.  Please, take a course in logic.
>(And no, I am not of the flock...)


	"What makes sense in life? What we see are not what they are,
	 but what they are known for only by definition we imposed 
	 on them...... The straight lines we see are only a fraction 
	 of a millionth of the Chaoes out of reach of our sense, 
	 - something which neither we can ever see, nor understand. "
                                           - Bennett Kyson.

	 So, what's logic?


	 - Ryo Silen, The Traveller.
---
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Subject: Re: <None>
From: Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:35:19 -0400 
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>And should a 12 year old kid be allowed to divorce his parents?  
	well the reasoning behind it was that he was taking a step in
inatiating an action which shouild have been done by the social
services.  They did not deem it necessisary for him to be permantly
removed form his parents custody.  But appearently the courts did.  It
sets a frightening precident which is about to be repeated in Louisana. 
I think that he should be able to but it should never come to that.  IT
may cause a flood of cases resulting in rich people stealing the perfect
child through the courts.

Friend of the one who is.
Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ML5A@ANDREW.CMU.EDU)
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: YAQOTD
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:57:52 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst
 Are full of passionate intensity." -- W.B. Yeats

The inability of snakes to count is actually a refusal, on their part,
to appreciate the Cardinal Number system. -- "Actual Facts"
-- 
I am the cholesterol that clogs your arteries.
I am the onion that stings in your eye.
I am the tube of cadmium yellow that refuses to open.
I am the unexpected and unsightly inclusion that ruins the perfect gem.
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:18:42 GMT

"First things first -- but not necessarily in that order"
		-- The Doctor, "Doctor Who"

"Next to being witty yourself, the best thing
 is to quote another's wit" - C.N.Bovee
-- 
I am the paper-cut that ruins your morning. . .
I am the ingrown nail on the foot of crime
I am the squashed bug on your flying saucer widshield.
I am the moth that seeks your porch light.
From: fsmlm2@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: YAQOTD
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska

In article <ButwFD.BB2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
> Mars is essentially in the same orbit... somewhat the same distance from the
> Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals,
> we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If
> oxygen, that means we can breathe.
>       -- Vice President Dan Quayle
> -- 
> Join the Omnipotent Overlords of the Omniverse today. Add to intelligent    	
> political, environmental, and social discussions. Buck the growing trend of 
> apathy in the world today, and most importantly have some well earned fun.  
> Read all about us on alt.overlords or e-mail : jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: YAQOTD
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:24:08 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

"August 25 --Fundamentalist religious groups announce the beginning of a
massive nationwide publicity buildup for an obscure and mostly boring
film, The Last Temptation of Christ."  --Dave Barry's 1988 Year in Review
-- 
I am the chill that runs down your spine.
I am the surprise in your cereal box.
I am the hair on the lens of your projector.
I am the metal key on the sardine can of justice.
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Subject: Re: God???? or just a bit of blind luck?
From: csteffen@dion.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen)
Date: 27 Sep 92 13:45:32 -0600

In article <Bv5MBz.Mxo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>  writes:
> well, i for one believe that 90% of the bible is hogwash...

I believe that you believe.

> i know for a fact the the book or revelations is totally fake

You KNOW!?!   For a FACT!?!  You sound pretty darn sure for someone who  
wasn't there.  I accept that you believe that, even that you would defend  
that opinion, but don't delude yourself into thinking that you "know for a  
fact".  

> it was just a tool of the church written to scare people
> back to christianity during the middle ages when the church
> beacem scared that its power was being unsurped by local
> feudal lords.

Again, I would be willing to debate this, as long as we can keep hard  
facts from opinion.  

> 
> 
> Jester
> SOGDAC
> -- 
> I am the cold sore that stings your lip!
> I am the parking meter that expires while you shop!
> I am the soapscum that clings to your tub.
> I am the hairball that sticks in your pipes.

Craig Steffen
Wielder of the Grand Unified Field Theory
From: sri4495@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: all this God stuff
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:44:21 GMT
Reply-To: sri4495@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep27.165604.59222@cc.usu.edu> sl9b4@cc.usu.edu (Deep Six)
writes,
 
>What was most interesting is the Dead Sea Scrolls recounting of Christ's 
>``death.'' I am going on memory here, so excuse any mistakes. If memory serves,
>the crucifiction went like this: First, because Christ and the thieves were
>crucified on Friday, they could not (by Jewish Law) be left out on sabbath. 
>For that reason, the Roman guards tried to hasten the death of all three. 
>They broke the legs of the thieves and gave Christ poison. However, the poison
>only put Christ into a coma, and he was thought dead. He was taken from the 
>cross, but one of the ``gang'' (one of the apostles) detected that Christ 
>was alive. So, when they put him the tomb, a couple of them stayed in and 
>nursed him back to conscienseness. I seem to remember one of the things they 
>gave him to recover was mir (ironic, eh?). So, after three days, one of the 
>people who stayed in the tomb sneaked out and told Mary that Christ had been
>brought back to life. Mary came back and Christ came out under the observation
>of a Roman guard. The point was, anyway, that a work of ``scripture'' told
>of how Christ death and ressurection was faked. I might have some details 
>confused, but I thought it was germane.

Actually, after reading this, my question is who wrote it.  I doubt it was
writen by a beliver.  Now if you did not belive that Jesus had risen from the
dead, and you had these people claiming they had seen him after he died, how
would you explain it?

Oh, and to this jester chap, I'd just like to clarify your arguments.  The
basic question you seem to be raising is "Is God so all-powerful that he can
limit himself?"  As to that, I'd say yes, simply because <WARNING:  ENTERING
FAITH MODE>  I think the he cares for every single human on this planet, and
he wants to make things perfect for everybody, but he doesn't.  Why?  I havn't
the foggiest.  Hopefully I'll find out some day.

PS:  I think the best logical argument for faith was made by Pascal.  I belive
it went: "Either there is a God, or there is not.  Now, if I belive, and there
is no God, I have lost nothing.  If I do not belive and there is no God, I get
nothing.  If there is a God, and I don't belive, I loose everything, and if
there is a God, and I do belive, a gain everything."  A one sided gamble, I'd
say.
--
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I think.                        |    | * * |   eclectic. And God of The Funky
At least, it tastes like one.  -+-   | \_/ |   Hat. And the weirdo wannabe.
Especially with yogurt on top.  |    \_____/   SRI4495@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Except for strawberry.          | (3:16 of the NT)  
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: God???? or just a bit of blind luck?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:16:19 GMT

csteffen@dion.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen) writes:
}> well, i for one believe that 90% of the bible is hogwash...
}I believe that you believe.

well at least we have a common ground.

}> i know for a fact the the book or revelations is totally fake
}You KNOW!?!   For a FACT!?!  You sound pretty darn sure for someone who  
}wasn't there.  I accept that you believe that, even that you would defend  
}that opinion, but don't delude yourself into thinking that you "know for a  
}fact".  

yes I do....ever read the book of revelations from
a standpoint of a bystander....the thing reaks of
church hypocrasy.......

}> it was just a tool of the church written to scare people
}> back to christianity during the middle ages when the church
}> beacem scared that its power was being unsurped by local
}> feudal lords.
}
}Again, I would be willing to debate this, as long as we can keep hard  
}facts from opinion.  

well, go for it....... this is a forum...lets discuss it....

Jester
SOGDAC
-- 
I am the single career man all women want to date!
I am the icky bug that crawls up your trouser leg.
I am the pin that bursts your bubble.
I am the butter that melts in your pan!
From: gerberrl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Richard L. Gerberding)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: all this God stuff
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:40:19 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology


In article <1992Sep30.231849.19713@bnr.ca> bcash@crchh410.BNR.CA (Brian  
Cash) writes:
> 3) Beleive in the Hindu God 4) Beleive in the Islam God 5) Beleive in
> the Mormon God 
> 6) Beleive in the Egyptian God(s) 7) Beleive in Colleen 8) Beleive in  
Bob ....
=========
> 123424) Beleive in none of the Gods  123425) None of the above

> Brian /-|-\
> 



I BELIEVE IN BOB!!!!



                             

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