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From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: The one you have been awaiting for is comeing up...
Followup-To: alt.romance
Keywords: fireplace, maybe???
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:11:13 GMT

 Folks,
   I have written up my romantic story and will be writing it on here shortly
after I make any last minute corrections that need made neccessary.
I will enclose a copy to Mary, the RFA secretary, so that my being allowed
in RFA will be official.  This story, which you will all read about, has 
NO sex in it.  I wanted it that way because I believe, no matter what others
may think, that sex should be put off until after two people are married to
each other(I believe it is best this way).  So, if you expected any sex in
my article, you may as well as be disappointed.  Also, I am a virgin and that
has a large part to do with why there is not any sex in the story.

I don't feel sorry at all for not having in it.

Well, let me know what you think, fellas..

Hugs to all<-----  

Your newest soon-to-be member of the RFA,

Scotto

Also soon to be official cowboy of the RFA(romantic cowboy he is)

"Born an Illini,
 Boilermaker by the grace of God"
From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:06:06 GMT

In article <8SEP199214491156@bestsd.sdsu.edu>, regan1016@bestsd.sdsu.edu (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY) writes:
> In article <1992Sep8.205324@cs.bham.ac.uk>, eyc@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ed Carter)                   writes...
>>I just thought I'd de-lurk to wonder about this particular
>>thread for a moment.
>> 
>>From what else I've read here, it seems that a useful social
>>function could be served by starting a LJBF Songs Discussion
>>List for people to listen to when utterly miserable. Either
>>to cheer themselves up or, of course, to wallow in self pity.
>> 
>>After all, who needs music when you're in love?        :-)
>>  
>>(I only mentioned it 'cos I can only think of miserable songs
>>at the moment and I was feeling left out. sniffle.)
> Hey, nice idea ... I was thinking of the same thing, but I didn't want to 
> start the tangential thread, but I'm willing to contribute.
> 
> There are oodles of songs that would fit this category, but this list 
> simply *must* start with a Morrissey song, Morrissey being the Crown 
> Prince of Melancholy.  Also, not only is this song one of my all-time 
> favourites, it was also voted the #1 favourite song by the listeners of 
> LA's alternative-rock station KROQ-FM:
> 
>         The Smiths --- "How Soon Is Now?"
> 
> Any more out there?
> 
> ---<--<-{@ | "I believe that before all else, I am a reasonable human being,
> Elizabeth  | just as you are -- or, at all events, that I must try and 
> 	   | become one." _A Doll's House_, Henrik Ibsen
	ANY psychologist would be pleased with the way this is going.  The same
things are happening now when I restarted this thread (somebody complained that
there wasn't enough romance on alt.romance) that happened last year when another
person started the same thread.

	One-people made generalizations.  Two-people suggested classical music,
and finally, 3-people suggested the inverse for another thread.

	This is fabulous!  So, my suggestion for a song on this alternate list
would be:

	"I saw red", Warrant.

	Keep posting.  his thread still has a lot of life in it.

		:-)Kyle
From: petitc@vccsouth04.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:34:55 GMT
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.


  Well, how about "We Never Danced" from the soundtrack to _Made in Heaven_?

 ("Between heaven and Earth/There's a ballroom floor/where couples glide/into
the evermore/.../I hope it's not too late/we were more than friends/and I can
hardly wait/until we meet again.")

 And don't forget "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" from the soundtrack to
Mannequin (sp?)

 (Yep, I like movie titles :&) )

 "The Lady in My Life" by Michael Jackson

 "I Just Can't Stop Lovin' You"  by Michael Jackson

-- 
Trust:  A very precious social commodity, due both to high value and terrible
scarcity.
MATWDTM:  Mothers Against Teenagers Who Drink Too Much (failed name for MADD)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd R. Eigenschink)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:04:06 GMT

>I found a wonderful woman on the net at my own school... I have yet to
>meet her in RL, but for now the VAX phone utility is our way of
>getting together. I would be thankful for any advice about meeting an
>EL (Electronic Life) RP in Real Life.
> ...
>I'm looking forward to meeting her, and at this point just need a few
>words of encouragement...

Well, encouragement's the easy part of it!  I posted my wonderful
little story, so everyone knows it worked out, I think due to one very
significatn thing: We both turned out to be who we said we were.  It's
very easy to mis-represent yourself to someone electronically, just as
it's very easy to misunderstand something that someone else says when
there's no facial expression or voice inflection to go along with it.
If you didn't tell any lies, and she didn't either, I can't imagine
anything going wrong!

Best of luck, and please let us know what happens!

--
Todd Eigenschink (eigenstr@CS.Rose-Hulman.Edu)

Surprised this weekend by the (originally) electronically-met SO
driving 1,000 miles to see me without telling anyone but my
roommate...

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:10:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.162520.16265@inesc.pt> usenet@inesc.pt (USENET News System) writes:
>
>	Well, the story is this:
>
>		I met my actual SO through the computer, in school. We started 
>	talking with each other with VAX Phone, and we were going along
>	real fine. The problem was that it was becoming almost an obsession, 
>	and we spent as much as 7hr/day sitting in the computer rooms.
>	We study in different schools, so we still didn't knew each other for
>	real. But this was to end. The big day arrived, we went out together, 
>	both kinda nervous (if the REAL thing proved dissapointing, it would be
>	hard for us to be able to talk again). And, well, it just couldn't've
>	been better. 
>		We *STILL* went along fine, and well, one thing leads to another.
>	Somedays later, we were each other's SO :).
>
>		Is there anyone else out there who met his/her SO through the
>	computer ? It would be fun to hear similar cases.
>
>----
> joao Pedro Martins, Lisboa, Portugal - jota@tutor.UUCP
> 
> "Carpe Diem, she muttered, and laughed. We seize the day.	
>  Well, sometimes, the day seizes back !" (Psychodrome) 

 Hi there above me.,... I met many of my past SO's on the computer thru
the VAX in the past so it was like welll........another one...let's
see if I can stop screwing it up(which ironically I did every time,
believe it or not.  Am I willing to take another shot?  Sure, why not?
But, I probably should share what happened to me since they failed each
and every time......that was 4-5 years ago..maybe one day I will
have that opportunity to share mine :-()--- 

Cheersies,

Scotto

kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu

"Born an Illini,
 Boilermaker by the grace of God"


Xref: sparky alt.romance:11527 alt.romance.chat:18518
From: kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:36:53 GMT
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.



I'd like to add a wee bit or tow to Diana's post.

Here's a case in point, sort of....Since April I have
had concert tickets, I buy two so I can take some one who
might enjoy it as well, to four different concerts.
[Smithereens, Eric Clapton, Melissa Etheridge and Bonnie
Raitt, if anyone really care]

and for three of the four concerts, I have had to try and
scramble up a date for the concert.  Twice I went with my
Ex. (yes you read that right, we get along well enough to
still do things together), once I went alone and once the
person did not back out.  In all cases, initially I asked 
someone I had I just recently asked out.  All of these people
are basically nice people as well, but mayhaps a bit 
inconsiderate.

Believe it or not, one starts to get frustrated.  Why can't 
people say no, if they don't want to, or can't or have
other commitments.  I honestly think that is more a level of
maturity they are lacking, they inability to tell me upfront
or inadvance enough so I can make plans.  Like they are going
to mortally wound me or something.  Sure I'll be disappointed,
becaus I did look forward to seeing them, (hell otherwise I would
never have asked them out in the first place), but my life sure
heck ain't going to end because I went to a concert alone, (
it just seems that way ...;-) ).  BUt it seems we do so much
in life based on the fallacy of not wanting to hurt someone's
feelings, but in reality we are just avoiding the situation.

So if this basically shy, (initially), nice, (or so I'm told), is
not going to give up asking people because I've had a few
inconveniences, then why should any of you.  It is not easy for
me to call up and ask somone out that I don't really know, but id
I don't do it, I may never get the chance to find out if that
person is interested in me......

So if you are a NG, or maybe just a part time NG, remember to be
yourself, for you got to like what you see in the mirror in the
morning.  As Diana mentioned, sex and relationships are not the
same thing.  I've tried to force myself to go out looking for a
one night stand, but I'll be damned if my conscience would let
me.  Will I have a one night stand in the future?  Probably, I
would never rule out any possibility, but it certainly is not the
norm.  Don't be too hard on yourself if you are a NGuy or NGal, and
are not out and about like all the rest of the socially swinging
set.  You don't have to settle for being alone, you don't have to
settle for something that is not up to your "standards", but being
yourself and living the way you want to live I can guarantee at least
one person will like!!!!

Thoughts On Monday Morn,

BDC
-- 
   "Life is a highway, I want to drive it all night long" 
    Tom Cochrane 
    1983 750 Maximum
    kkwwkk@mixcom.com                 shaw@mixcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
From: rsvanc00@mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: Fuck You
Keywords: bizarre posts
    <1992Sep6.021100.16817@athena.cs.uga.edu> 
    <92Sep07.002821.14472@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:49:21 GMT

In <92Sep07.002821.14472@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
>And if so, should we send the Net.Police after him? Comments?

Absolutely. Jeff Spangenberg has inexcusably crossed the line
between flame wars here by inciting other Skinhead Neo-Nazi
ass-souls like himself to start race wars.

The first amendment, as open and flexable as it is, otherwise
where would all those "Elvis sighted at Burger King in BFE
Kentucky" tabloid articles come from, anyway, The 1st
amendment offers no protection for people who incite riots
and race wars and try to cower under the defense of
"free speech".

As Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes put it;

"The freedom of speech does not give a person the right
to yell 'FIRE!' in a crowded theater."

I am suprised that no one has bothered reporting this
to the people at fbi.gov, maybe they have, maybe the
FBI is going to look into possible civil rights violations
against Mr. Spangenberg.

Nevertheless, let's take the time to help out our
FBI, send a copy of Mr. Spangenberg's original posting to

Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI-DOM)
   Identification Division
   10th and Pennsylvania Avenue
   Washington, DC 20535
 
   Domain Name: FBI.GOV
 
   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Grange, Keith W.  (KWG5)  kwg@ard.fbi.gov
      (202) 324-2694

I'm sure swift action will be guaranteed. :)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Randolph S. Vance
 
              RSVANC00@mik.uky.edu
              RSVANC00@ukpr.uky.edu
              RSVANC00@ukcc.uky.edu
 
QUOTE: "Without the heart, there can be no understanding
        between the hand and the mind."
              -Madonna, from her song video "Express Yourself"
 
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From: HOPELESS@news.duke.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Oh, and romance...
Date: 13 Sep 92 06:43:22 GMT
Followup-To: jafarr@acpub.duke.edu

being dead also has a list of songs:

"Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough"

"Love Hurts"

"Love Bites"  

"Love Stinks"

"Paradise by the Dashboard Light" also has some non-romantic implications

just to start it off...

HOPELESS...

(and apparently more than a little angry)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: The Story
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:59:57 GMT


well they say the only stupid questions are the ones that go
unasked..so here goes...


what is RFA??????



*duh*



(but well meaning....)


Dawn
-- 
Irony is hygiene of the mind      --Elizabeth Bibesco
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: zhu@athena.mit.edu (Erin Zhu)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:01:51 GMT

In article <pd0yk_l@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:

>In article <BuL1vs.9D6@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
>(Jake Rose) writes:

>|> petitc@nuge104.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:
 
>|> >  One question:  How in the world can you fall in Love when you haven't even
>|> >seen the person yet?
 
>|> I did.  It's not hard.  We talked on the phone, via echat, MUSHes, etcetera,
>|> for two months before she mailed her photo to me... ...it's not hard if you
>|> care about who the person is instead of what they are - hey, I thought you
>|> were a "nice guy"! :)
 
>  Well, I'm realistic.  What if someone is a truly wonderful person, but you
>find the person totally unattractive?  Are you supposed to just ignore the
>fact that there's no attraction there?  Or, are we going off on the "appearance
>shouldn't matter if you REALLY love someone" stuff again?

C'mon, we weren't _that_ hopeless :-)

Given the "typical" description of physical appearances, that is, age,
height, weight, race, hair color/length/curvature, eye color, facial
hair(if any), major abnormal feature (if any), it's possible to have
a good idea of whether this person would at least be "acceptable",
appearance-wise.  For me, it sufficed that he had at least a couple
of physical features that I find attractive, so given that fact that
he didn't lie, I had no problems finding him attractive as a package
in real life.

Frankly, I found it quite easy to develope physical attraction toward
somebody that I was already in love with.  Your mileage, of course,
may vary.
  
  --Erin
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:49:46 GMT

eyc@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ed Carter) writes:

>I just thought I'd de-lurk to wonder about this particular
>thread for a moment.
>From what else I've read here, it seems that a useful social
>function could be served by starting a LJBF Songs Discussion
>List for people to listen to when utterly miserable. Either
>to cheer themselves up or, of course, to wallow in self pity.
>After all, who needs music when you're in love?        :-)
>(I only mentioned it 'cos I can only think of miserable songs
>at the moment and I was feeling left out. sniffle.)

Know how you feel.  Around the beginning of 1990 I was trying to get
over a relationship and there was a whole bunch of music all at once
which was really how I felt:

Phil Collins    "I wish it would rain down"
                "Do you remember?"

Richard Marx    "Right here waiting"
Milli Vanilli   "Blame it on the rain" yeah I know everyone burned their
					records, right?
Tears for Fears "Woman in Chains"
Elton John      "Sacrifice"
Alan Parsons    "Too Late Now"

there were others but I can't think of them offhand...

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Geraghty                         | Time, flowing like a river
robg@durian.citr.oz.au               | Time, beckoning me
CITR                                 | APP
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: Michel Goudeseune <marcelg@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:07:37 GMT


I've found that there are very few songs/albums that are really *joyous*.  The
vast majority seem to be griping about lost love and such.

The one major exception I've found is _Sunshine on Leith_ by The Proclaimers.
Among the romantic lyrics I really like from the album:

 -- I'm Gonna Be (500 miles)

 -- Then I Met You

 -- Sunshine On Leith

 -- I'm On My Way


I could quote the whole album, but I guess I like those ones the most.

--
 Michel Goudeseune                       marcelg@zooid.guild.org
         Love yourself - or nobody else can.  -- Madonna
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: naveena@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Naveena Michael)
Subject: Romantic Songs
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:57:44 GMT

This is my second list of songs. I dont know how I could have forgotten these.
1. Unchained Melodies(or is it unchanged??)  - Righteious Brothers
2. Everything I do,I do it for you - Bryan Adams
3. Give me the gift of love _ Bette Milder * I think* 

The first one in this list according to me is a sort of an ultimate turn on!!

Naveena Michael

naveena@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
From: petitc@nuge105.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:43:37 GMT
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

In article <1992Sep15.205744.21081@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, naveena@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Naveena Michael) writes:
|> This is my second list of songs. I dont know how I could have forgotten these.
|> 1. Unchained Melodies(or is it unchanged??)  - Righteious Brothers
|> 2. Everything I do,I do it for you - Bryan Adams
|> 3. Give me the gift of love _ Bette Milder * I think* 
|> 
|> The first one in this list according to me is a sort of an ultimate turn on!!

  And, Glory of Love brings tears to my eyes.

-- 
Trust:  A very precious social commodity, due both to high value and terrible
scarcity.
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: jholtgra@afit.af.mil (Jeremy C. Holtgrave)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:01:13 GMT

Romantic songs?  How about "Leather and Lace", the duet with Stevie
Nicks and Don Henly.
From: tlr@penguins.East.Sun.COM (Tammy Roncadori - Administrator Sun Washington D.C.)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion List
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:55:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tlr@penguins.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: penguins.east.sun.com


I haven't seen . . .

I Just Wanna Stop by Gino Vannelli

This one just kills me!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire)
Subject: Re: Who gets the longer stick, men or women? ;)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:42:27 GMT

afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:

>In article <15SEP199216145874@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes...
>>In article <15SEP199216013921@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes...
>>>In article <15SEP199209384654@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes...
>>>> 
>>>>Sounds like you *guys* are the ones in shortage.
>>> 
>>>Just the good ones, T. 
>> 
>>Stephen, Stephen, Stephen.  How many times do I have to tell you?  The good 
>>ones aren't short.
>>:-)  :-)

>No, you said the short ones aren't good...

>.. and your use of the `plural' makes me wonder why you tried more than 
>1 if the first one wasn't good ...

>.. and besides, I have data to the contrary. *I* am considered `good' and 
>I'm only 5' 10".

>.. or wasn't that what you were talking about ? :-)

>-- Stephen

Well, gee. We're just supposed to take YOUR word for it?  Besides....
5'10 isn't short.  It's taller than I am.... :)

BTW. Just for the record?  I'm currently dating a "Nice Guy" (tm) and
have been for comin' on to 2 years.  And my parents would just LOVE it if
we got married......

			-Wildfire-

 And the seeds of love were sown   <>                   -Wildfire-
 And nurtured with desire          <>             hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 And when they started to grow     <>           lmh44500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
 They grew like WILDFIRE!          <> Disclaimer:  Who ME?!?!?! (innocent look)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: LJBF songs
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:37:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.001622.20363@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer) writes:
>Seems there are a few different varieties of LJBF songs we're running
>in to.
>
>1)  Type 1 is the "I hurt, and I need a good long cry" variety.
>2)  Type 2 is the "you'll be SOOOO-RRY" song.  That's where
>3)  Type 3 is the "I'm over you now" type of song.  A good
>Any others?

4)  Type 4 is the "Drift into technodance nirvana, with
    happy music, intense lighting, and glowstuff"
    (To forget, or more to the point, not to think)

Rave on, A.R. readers!

-Thomas



Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mtompset@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Mark Tompsett)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:06:09 GMT

In article <14SEP199215474431@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes:
>But if you go out to meet women with the *expressed* and *only* 
>interest of getting sex, you are likely to be disappointed sometimes.
>-- Teresa

Hey, if I wanted sex, you'd know. But frankly, I don't want the S word till
we are married. Doing such before marriage would ruin a relationship, in
MY (NOTE: I SAID MY, AND NOT ANYONE ELSES!!!!) opinion.

             Mark Tompsett

--
psst... Want a prime number?