HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Smart Handsome Chas)
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:58:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.190229.22624@cis.ohio-state.edu> kwai@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (ka-kei wai) writes:
>
> It seems like not a whole lot of people know what happened. What I post here
> is what I heard from some friends of mine in Hong Kong. I don't know if it is
> real or not but it's been the most popular topic among people in Hong Kong. 
> Also, looks like "60 Minutes Plus" (Not the one in the US) is going to talk
> about it, which makes it more serious. And here is what happened :
>
> There was a commercial by KCR in which 7 children were playing in a forrest.
> Those children are all from Beijing. But according to the KCR, there are 
> supposed to be only 6 children. Thats means there is an extra child, who until
> now, nobody knows who he is. And a lot of people said that the extra child was
> jumping and with blood flowing out of his mouth during the whold commercial.
> The more terrible thing is the 2 of the 6 children are dead now and the other
> 4 missing but it seems like no one knows how they died. Since they are in 
> Beijing, it's tough to investigate on the incident.
>
> What I heard is that that the "60 Minutes Plus" on the Peral is going to show 
> the commercial again (It's been stopped) using slow motion. But I don't know 
> the exact date.
>
> And that's all I know. If any of you have more information on it, please let
> me know or post it here. Thanks.
>
> - Paul.
>
>

My friend in Hong Kong told me that the seventh child was dead before the
commercial was taking. That means.....

Chas.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Why Chinese aura (or ghost) is used to be evil and disgusting?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:36:01 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED!


What an exciting and scary story about that KCR commerical!  Just wonder:
How come the real-life Chinese ghost stories are used to be so disgusting and
evil?  I mean, a kid puking blood in a forest?????

How come we used to describe (and think of) Chinese ghosts are disgustingly
disfigured macabre fooling around for their next prey?  I mean, if there is
an afterlife, why it has to be that scary?  Why it is so evil?

It is quite a contrast to the Westerners, who describe the afterlife is 
full of peace and comfort.  Most Westerners' stories about encounters with 
ghosts are very transquil:  Just a faint white cloud of image floating in the 
air, no blood, no slim, etc.  But Chinese!  My gosh!  Spagetti, anyone?

Is it because the way we see ghosts are really depend on our inner minds, that
most Chinese are disturbed (by supersitutions? stress?) deep under?  Is it 
because of our religions?  Does this kind of scary images make a number of
Chinese believe in Christanity (in which the God looks more human and 
socialable than the Gods in many Asian religions)?  

Have the people in America notice that there is a complete contrast between
an American funeral home and a Chinese funeral home?  How could that be?
One's playing peaceful organ music and choral, the other used to have
a bunch of monks screaming at their snapping pitch, with tear-blasting Chinese
cornet all over your ears?

May be the Holy Creator discrimates against Chinese???  :-)


- Louis


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN)
Subject: Re: change real name
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 08:00:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.073628.22991@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, ins903u@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (***RAYSON WONG**) writes:
>
>If it gives a "command not found" statement does that mean that this priviledge
>has been denied on my system? But it seems funny that when I do a man on it
>it still appears? Do you know the answer to this mystery?

	Usually the 'chfn' command is placed in /etc/shells or /bin.  So, you
should check whether it is there, if it is, then you better check your .login
file in your root directory to see the 'path', if it doesn't include /bin or
/etc/shells then add it in.  However, if the 'chfn' doesn't exist in above 
location, then this priviledge is probably denied or your SU put it somewhere
else.  Therefore, you better talk to your SU. 



              /\                           Michael C. KWAN
       /\____/  \_                         mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au
      /           \                        mkwan@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au
     |  Australia  |                                                         
      \   ____    /                        University of Tasmania, Launceston
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               __                          * P.O.Box 447, Mowbray Heights,  *
               \/ <---- Tasmania           * 7248, Tasmania, Australia.     *
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  It is more important to get things right, than to get them fast but wrong !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: munhou@solomon.technet.sg (MH Chew)
Subject: Address of Chinese Univ of Hong Kong
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:57:10 GMT







Hi there! Just wondering if any of you out there knows the address
of the Chinese University of Hong Kong?
Thanks in advance. :-)


--Mun Hou-
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: elkabban@regent.usask.ca (Ossama Elkabbani)
Subject: cant_sng.0
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:58:03 GMT

	cant_sng.zip is a uuencoded file. It has 35 parts. I'll post two
parts a day.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: choij@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (J H Y choi)
Subject: Re: Sandy Lam's new album...
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 10:25:43 GMT

In article <1dib15INN2ug@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> wxl7@po.CWRU.Edu (William Leung) writes:
>
>Hi netters (and chinese music fans),
>
>I just wanted to know the name of Sandy Lam's new album.  I was
>going to order it through some chinese music store in California
>and I wasn't sure of the name of her album.  Also, if you already
>have her album can you tell me if it's good or not.  Thank you!
>
>				Willie
>-- 
>So hard to know, wish I can read your mind...
>Wish I can read your mind and see in your heart...
>                    -Tommy Page (Whenever You Close Your Eyes)

	"Come Back To Love" - [woui dou ooi dig sun bin], Get it?

	It is one of the best in the market now, but not as good as
	the previous one.  The 7th song is the best in the whole CD.
	Next is the title song and the last few songs.	Enjoy it....

-----------
Johnny Choi
address :-  choij@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca

"There is no one on earth who does what is right all the time and 
  never makes a mistake."  --- Ecclesiastes Chap. 7, Verse 20
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: alvin@top.cis.syr.edu (Alvin Leung)
Subject: Re: Cantonese songs for FTP'ing (Re: cantonese songs)
Organization: Syracuse University CIS Dept.
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 22:38:55 EST

>Just thought I'd tell everyone that someone uploaded a file called
>cant_song.zip to ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  There are few .wav files of some
>Cantonese songs.

>Alvin

The file is called pub/pc/sounds/cant_snd.zip. It contains 4 short segments about
30 second long.  

List of the files:
ahanghai.wav
bestpal.wav
ghost.wav
macho.wav
read.me

read,me:
         As a test, I have recorded several Cantonese songs with the
    ProAudio Spectrum 16, they are in 11K/8 bit/Mono format.  If you are
    interested in seeing more of these wave files, please drop me an email
    at <LCSim@vax2.cstp.umkc.edu> and I will make more if time permits.
    Please also drop me a line if you having problem playing them, they
    played fine on my 486/33 with the Pro-Audio Spectrum 16.  Thanks ...

    Lin-Chow Sim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip)
Subject: Kai Tak cargo competition begins
Reply-To: yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip)
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 19:30:27 GMT

Aviation Week & Space Technology, 11/2/1992.

IRKED CARGOLUX EYES SHENZHEN
Burned up over a Hong Kong government decision to limit its freight
tonnage at kai Tak International Airport, Cargolux is planning a 
test flight to nearby Shenzhen Airport in China this month.  If
successful in efficiently transshipping cargo between the 24-hr
mainland China airport and Hong Kong, Cargolux plans to add a 
scheduled flight to Shenzhen in addition to its regular Hong Kong
services.  

This could touch off a migration of freight and small package
operators from high-priced Kai Tak to less-expensive Shenzhen, 
despite China's bureaucracy and inexperience with the fast-paced
Western air cargo business. 

Hong Kong is restricting Cargolux in an attempt to aid Air Hong
Kong, a struggling local cargo carrier.

======================================================================
Michael E. Yip
Digital Equipment Corporation	Internet: yip@wsl.dec.com
Western Software Laboratory	UUCP: ...decwrl!wsl.enet.dec.com!yip
======================================================================
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From: lhclin@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Louis Lin)
Subject: Re: What the hell is Lam's first name?(Re: LAM is God!!)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:18:44 GMT

In article <1dkurdINNrj6@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST102119@brownvm.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes:
>Well, does anyone out there know what Lam's English first name? Its
>sort of strange to call people by their last name... I don't think I
>have ever heard of his first name and I am DYING to find that out.
>
>I appreciate anyone who can enlighten me on this subject.
>
>
>
>                                           Chainsaw (yes, I'm back)

It's George.  I recall an acient K-100 mentioned it.

-- 
______________________________________  __       __
| email : lhclin@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca | /_/\__   / /_
| Louis Lin, Computer Graphics Lab,  | \ \/_/\ /___/\
| University of Waterloo, Canada.    |  \___\/ \___\/
From: nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: cantonese songs
Date: 8 Nov 92 16:26:42 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Nov7.185045.13268@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
> nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>I think this is common w/in HK students.  They are away from HK and they still
>>want to live the way they used to back in HK.  Come on, open yourself, I don't 
>>know how much you know about American culture, not much, I guess.  The HK music
>>scene sucks anyway.  Love, everyday, everysong, everybody, I am sick of it.
>>It is so superficial that it is phony as hell.
>>Well, do whatever you like.  Just some of my opinions.  You are my sons, I
>>don't care!!!
> 
> I think there is a difference between not willing to open oneself to
> American culture and not willing to let go of one's own culture entirely.
> I truly believe that one can be open to another culture, yet still retain
> one's own.  The closer I am with Americans (or any other "foreigners"), the more
> aware I've become .  I've become more aware of my Chinese and HK background.
> (note: this is *not* a bad thing).  My (American) friends never discriminate
> me because I am different from them.  I, in turn, value my "HK culture" 
> more than ever.  I begin to read Chinese books and magazines which I didn't
> used to read.  So, speaking from experience, I conclude that one can 
> live in a foreign culture, emerge in that culture, yet still retain one's own.
> 
> Also, I don't agree with your bashing of HK music as a whole.  It is easy to
> just pick the "mainstream" ones and generalize every piece of HK music.  If 
> you haven't found any "meaningful" HK songs, you haven't tried hard enough.
> Please open yourself to your own culture--look at it from a new prospective.
> Perhaps you will see something you otherwise haven't seen. 
> 
> Good luck and take care.
> 
> Yours Sincerely,
> Kelvin
> e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu

Talk about music scene, since Beyond turned to mainstream, Tat-Ming broke up,
I really don't see much good music around.  Danny Summer is still around, I am 
glad.  Other than those, everybody is doing the same old thing for years.  They 
did change on style, and image, but new bottle, old wine.  Those are not the
thing I am into.  I got really bored.  Talk about HK culture, I read Chinese
novels like Dream of the Red Building, Wise Lee(Not as good as it used to),
Monkey, Ko Loan.....  Do you mean stuff like that?  I don't read Little man
 weekly
Journals, that's cheap.  That's pop culture.  Culture is a big thing.  I don't
think I have learned enough to discuss it w/ you.  But don't mistake it.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: bus338pb2@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Re: Vivian Chow
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:48:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.220842.8950@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs922096@ariel.yorku.ca (JOSE J. MONTANO) writes:
> 
>      Re:  Women who look pretty without makeup.  
> 
>      This is a good quality indeed.  
>      Anyway, there is a GIF of Vivian Chow (vchow09) where I think she's not
> wearing much makeup.  It's my personal favorite....
>      Does anyone agree with me when I say that many Asian women look beautiful with little or no makeup?  I mean compared to a Caucasian woman sans-makeup.  
> This is why I think many Japanese and Chinese ladies look younger than their ages.
>   
Hello everyone:

This is my first time posting


Is there a way to contact Vivian Chow(yes!)? Do you guys have her phone number
or something like that???  
Don't boring asking me to join her fan club, I already have...
I love Vivi!!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: hong kong 1997?
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:58:29 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov4.211754.26998@eng.ufl.edu> edo@ugrad.ee.ufl.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.194332.15801@oracle.us.oracle.com>, glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov2.212330.15998@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>|> >In article <1992Nov2.182004.3577@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>|> >The 4th point is: China owned HK only for a few hundred years, probably during
>|> >the Ming and Qing dynasties. 
>|> >
>|> >The 5th point is: once possessed doesn't imply forever
>|> >
>|> >The 6th point is: "Hong Kong belongs to China" is not casted in stone, nor
>|> >is it written in the Bible or the Koran.
>|> >
>|> >The 7th point is: "if the majority of the HK residents have roots in China,
>|> >then China should get HK back" => the SF Chinatown belongs to China too.
>|> >Hey, didn't Hitler use the same excuse to invade Austria? 
>|> >
>|> The 8th point is: No country owns any land.  England own the whole place
>|> for only about a thousand years.  How about France, Japan, Korea?  And
>|> how about America?  Should Americans return their land to the Indians?
>|> Think twice before your criticize.
>
>The 9th point is: Who create the bible? Who wrote the bible? Who put the 
>"ten rules" in the stone? And how the stone and bible affected the right
>of owning the land? I will tell whether Americans "shall" return the
>land to Indians if I satisfy with your answer.
>
>The 10th point is: I don't know what is your point. 

The final point is: Neither do I find any point in your points.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pang@fraser.sfu.ca (Dave Ng)
Subject: Re: EMAIL ADDRESS WANTED
Keywords: university, undergrad, grad school
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:37:19 GMT

ccyuen@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (yuen chun cheung) writes:

>I need some info about applying schools in Vancouver, Canada. Does anyone
>know the email address of the admission advisor or/and graduate advisor of
>Socialogy Department of any of the following schools:

>[1] University of Victoria
Sorry, no idea!

>[2] University of British Columbia (UBC)
Try the postmaster
Marilyn Martin:   martin@netcom.ubc.ca
Ask him the address of admission advisor.

>[3] University of Simon Fraser (?)
Senior Academic Advisor
Dr. C. Lindley Kemp:  ckemp@sfu.ca     Phone: (604) 291-4053

Chair's Secretary of Sociology and Anthropology
Chris Ward:   chris_ward@sfu.ca       Phone: (604) 291-3518



Good luck.

Ki-pang Ng - Computer Operations and Technical Support.
             Simon Fraser University,
             Brunaby, BC, Canada.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: kwai@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (ka-kei wai)
Subject: The commercial by KCR
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:14:24 GMT

 Well, I'm just wondering why nobody talks about the commercial, in which
 some kids play in a forrest, by KCR. I'm sure somebody knows what I'm talking
 about, especially those in Hong Kong. If I don't see any reponds on this
 group, I'll post the story which seems to be weird, but true. (A lot of people
 in Hong Kong say so)

 - Paul.
From: tlm@deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk (Te Lung Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Is is right to eat dogs?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 15:54:04 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tlm@deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk (Te Lung Man)
NNTP-Posting-Host: deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk


Recently, as we all know, Chris Patten lost his pet dog. This story was
reported widely (and wildly) in British tabloid newspapers.
There was suggestion that the dog was stolen by Chinese officials
in Beijing and pressented on Mr Deng's lunch menu!!
Or even on Mr Patten's lunch menu!! Poor Patten may have lost a few pounds
in weight over the past few days.
Why is this kind of story so palatable to the media ?
The simple reason is that the Chinese are known to have a tradition for dog
eating. It is unthinkable to the British (and others) how the Chinese could
commit such a horrible deed to animals as loving as the dogs. In other words,
it is uncivilised and wrong to eat dogs. This assumption is not really correct
because if pigs had been considered as pets rather than dogs, then pork chop
would have been banned already.
Fortunately, the rumours have now been dispelled because the lost dog is
found in Hong Kong, obviously still alive and well.
But the question still remains. Is it right to eat dog?
From: llm39562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lisa Lai-ha Mak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: About KCR
Date: 14 Nov 92 05:43:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

A friend of mine called back to Hong Kong last night and his mom told him 
that the whole business about the  KCR commerical was just a rumor.  It 
was spreaded all over Hong Kong for almost two weeks now.  But it was true
that The "One magazine" had a cover story about it.

Lisa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: New Song Lyrics reworked to English
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:37:39 GMT

In article <1d87olINNm4k@agate.berkeley.edu> bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
>Yes, it's me again.  For those of us who can't really sing
>in Cantonese, here's yet another song (lyrics rewritten by
>me into English)...
>
>Originally "I just want you to understand" by Hacken Lee
>Now "Say you will be with me" (I tried to translate the original
>Cantonese version where I can...but you'll probably notice that
>most if it isn't)
>
>	Night-time has fallen, darkness spreads through the land,
>	slowly as the moon rise above the mountains tonight,
>	and every place where I look, people just don't understand,
>	but that doesn't matter, if you'll be with me.
>
[ ...The rest deleted...]

The Billy upthere,

	Nice work :->  

	Hoping to see more of this...

---Cheers, 
	The Billy downhere
<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>*O*<>
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<> William W. Lo              ("Say, Papa, how about setting<>
<> william@natimuk.acci.com.au ) me up with the daughter of <>
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From: ctyau@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Yau Chor Tung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:03:57 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong

kwai@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (ka-kei wai) writes:


> It seems like not a whole lot of people know what happened. What I post here
> is what I heard from some friends of mine in Hong Kong. I don't know if it is
> real or not but it's been the most popular topic among people in Hong Kong. 
> Also, looks like "60 Minutes Plus" (Not the one in the US) is going to talk
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> about it, which makes it more serious. And here is what happened :
  ^^^^^^^^

A popular local magazine -the Next Magazine on 13/11 has told that it is also
a rumour. The "60 Minutes Plus" has nothing doing with this story.

> There was a commercial by KCR in which 7 children were playing in a forrest.
> Those children are all from Beijing. But according to the KCR, there are 
> supposed to be only 6 children. Thats means there is an extra child, who until
> now, nobody knows who he is. And a lot of people said that the extra child was
> jumping and with blood flowing out of his mouth during the whold commercial.

From the same magazine: the reporter went to Beijing and found that none
of the children were dead.  Moreover, in fact there were 10 children
in the commercial, but after the cutting, it seems there were only 6 or 7,
just because at a particlur time, only 6 are caught by the camera,
and another time 7.

> The more terrible thing is the 2 of the 6 children are dead now and the other
> 4 missing but it seems like no one knows how they died. Since they are in 
> Beijing, it's tough to investigate on the incident.


It is like a joke more than a ghost story.

Yau Chor Tung
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cykwan@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Chik Yun Kwan)
Subject: Re: Danny Chan's new album
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 02:05:57 GMT



In Article: 28847 of soc.culture.hongkong, c60a-gp@danube.Berkeley.EDU 
(Jonathan Chung) wrote:

>I went to S.F. Chinatown yesterday and found the CD. To my surprise there is
>only one new song, the first one, rather than two. The second song is from 
>his last album 'Only because I love you', with purple cover. I went all the
>way to S.F. by Bart here and I didn't buy the CD since I have every song 
>except the first one and that Sam Hui's song. I'd rather have my friend to
>tape it for me.
>
>I hope information posted in this newsgroup could be more accurate. No
>flames here.

Jonathan,

   I really want to know is "Cannot leave"(composed by Lam Man Yee, the 
9th song in Danny's new album) one of Danny's old song ? I have almost
all of Danny's album (except 1 or 2 that released in 1983,4) and I couldn't
find a song that have the same name, melody,... as "cannot leave".

   Besides, the advs. for this latest album( in Ming Po weekly magazine )
also states that there are 2 new songs. So I don't think the info. I posted
is inaccurate. 8-)

Ian


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