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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Arms not same size - what to do?
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:23:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul27.163006.22618@desktalk.desktalk.com>, dss@styx.desktalk.com (David S. Spencer) writes:
> Even my Mom's noticed what I've always suspected..."Gee David, one arm
> looks bigger than the other."  
> 
> This morning I extended my "cold" arms and measured my unflexed biceps - my 
> right bicep was 14 1/4 and my left 13 1/4.  FYI, I'm left handed (though
> not a full lefty as I kick and bat "right").
> 
> Normally I lift on a 4 days a week split system but am doing more of a
> random varity of things this summer...but this fall I'll be back on the
> 4x/week.
> 
> How can I get my arms to be the same size?  Don't curl as much w/ my
> right arm?  I have been treating them equally in the sense of attempting
> to lift the same amount, but of course the right ends up being able
> to curl more.
> 
> 	Thanks...
> 
> 		-- Dave
> 

This is pretty common, tho' not to this degree.  Your "non-preferred"
arm will generall be larger and stronger due to the fact that it
is less coordinated and less able to gain benefits of leverage and
synergistic muscle action, thus needing and using strength to
compensate.  Working the smaller arm with lower reps and higher
weights is the way I'd suggest.  Be thankful your nostrils, eyes,
ears and legs are fairely symmetrical.

GMS
From: ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Fat metabolism
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:55:34 GMT
Organization: Good place for a disclaimer

In article <l7dg3iINN6ht@male.EBay.Sun.COM> sproule@gethsemane.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>the recent posts concerning metabolism, I'v come to the conclusion that sitting
>in that tub is actually burning real calories and not just causing me to lose
>water.
>   The question I have is: if I am burning real calories, it can't be the same
>as burning calories during an exercise period. What's the equation? And, so long
>as I am careful to replenish the lost water, is the calorie burn a quantifiable
>amout that can be figured into my overall calorie burn count?


Raising the teperature speeds up most chemical reactions.  One source
gives the increase in BMR as 14% per degree C of fever *.
Whether other factors dominate in the hot tub, I don't know, but
this is a starting point for the above calculation.  What temperature
do you run in the hot tub?


* Review of Medical Physiology; Ganong 1973

-- 
And if your hand or foot offend you,         Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
  Cut it off, lad, and be whole;
But play the man, stand up and end you,
  When your sickness is your soul.           AE Housman
From: weisz@FUNCTION.MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Ivan Weisz)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: books for beginners?
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:03:03 GMT

I have posted this message 5 days ago, but received no replies at all. I am not
sure if it got to the network, so I am posting it again from a different
account. 

I recently bought a "home fitness center" by mail-order. It looks like a cheap
clone of the Soloflex, leg extension and butterfly extension included.
Since I am an absolute novice in this area, I would appreciate any suggestions
on books or magazine articles that would help me to start some exercise
program.  
I am wondering about the proper way of performing the exercises, their
suggested order, what exercises to do to achieve certain goals, etc...
I would greatly appreciate any e-mail suggestions. Also if this newsgroup has
any FAQ files, I would like to know how to get it.
Thanks 
Ivan Weisz
weisz@function.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: nettye@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Nettye Maxwell)
Subject: ------------BALLY HEALTH CLUB MEMBERSHIP FOR SALE------
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: NA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 17:11:53 GMT



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Thanks
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Bike Nashbar
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:18:12 GMT

>From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
> And I've had pretty poor performance (sic) from Performance.

i'd just like to add that the one (so far) mail-order experience
i've had was (recently) with Performance. got the stuff in no time!
even returned something (didn't fit right) and received notice within
a couple of days that my card had been credited! :-)
no complaints here! :-)
Janice

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Janice Green, Research Programmer      Social Science Data Center   __o
Janice_Green@Brown.edu                 Brown University           _`\<,_
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGH
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:37:55 GMT
Keywords: n

>Has anyone else watched the Unified Team's super-heavyweight
>wrestler?  He's 6'3", 287, with almost *no* bodyfat!  The guy
>is a monster.  He claims to be natural, but one look at his
>face and it seems obvious that he's used human growth hormone
>(and probably every other steroid under the sun).

Only problem is that he has passed every test he has taken.  This has 
included surprise tests about 2 months before competition, which is when
steriods last cycle begins.  He trains outrageously.  Give him some 
credit, everyone is scared of him.  He is the only person to pick up
other SUPERHEAVYWEIGHTS, and drop them on their head (thank you, Bob 
Costas).  He is just out there....

==========================================================================  
Christopher Gattuso			

gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com
Motorola, Inc.
Schaumburg, Illinois

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president,
 and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle
==========================================================================
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Shoulders
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:54:28 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul26.152526.16378@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko) writes:
> 
> Anyone know any good shoulder exerices with dumbbells?
> -- 
> 	It may not be today, or tomorrow but the truth will comeout.
> 
>  
>  AH238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU                            --------->>>>>>>>>>JAZ

Military presses, front and rear deltoids, and shrugs.  Instead of describing
them step by step, go to your nearest magazine rack and flip through a copy
of Flex, Muscle Fitness, Mass, or Men's Fitness magazines.  This month's issue
of Muscle and Fitness has an article showing Shaun Ray working the shoulders.

Rob
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to my Powerlifting Sig
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:52:57 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <tmsx2bh@rpi.edu> cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.201052.2762@bnr.ca> Reg Foulkes writes:
>>In article <14613@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>Do you want to armwrestle me too?  We should have a bench/squat/armwrestling
>>>competition.  :-)
>>>
>>>							-Adam
>>
>> How about bench/squat/armwrestling/legwrestling competition. I'll win the 
>>two that Adam looses.
>>
>>--------------------------------
>>Reg Foulkes                             Bell-Northern Research
>>riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca           2745 Iris Street
>>Telephone :(613) 763-4131     Ottawa, Ontario., Canada  K1Y 4H7
>
>Was that 2 supposed to be a 4?
>
>Ron
>p.s. I make no claims to be able to win 'em though...
>p.p.s. But I am pretty good at armwrestling (when my wrist ain't
>        acting up.)

Ron,

	Remember, I'm going up to Boston in August, so put up or shut up.
I've always wanted to say that, and now I've done it across the whole net.
I'm going to post a list of the people I'm going to take on up there in Boston.
These people can then post to the net whether they won or not.  It will
certainly be NOT!  :-)

							-Adam

-- 
     **********************************************************************
     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
     **********************************************************************
From: aplcen.edu!banchy@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Indoor aerobic exercise machine under $200
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:33:00 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant


  The subject line pretty much says it all: I'm looking for a *reasonably*
priced indoor aerobic machine.  After reading at least 10 separate threads
on the Nordic Track, I've decided that the features I should look for are
those features most highly touted in the NT: upper/lower body workout,
weight-bearing stance, smooth action, and sturdy construction.

  I've done a little shopping around, and it looks like the machine
which comes the closest to meeting those criteria is the DP Air Strider.
This machine is similar to the DP Airgometer that's been in stores for
a couple of years -- basically a stationary bike with synchronized
handles for upper body workout and a big fan for a front wheel.  The 
Air Strider, though, is designed for a standing posture, more like 
cranking your bike up a hill by getting up out of the seat.  The best 
price I've seen is $189.

  Any and all comments on the Air Strider, or a potential better choice
of a machine in the same price range would be greatly appreciated.
BTW, has anyone else read Marty Liquori's book on designing a home 
gym?  He seems to have the right idea, but only picks machines that
are in HIS price range (i.e. rich and famous).

Tom
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: * mistake/crick
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:13:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.143805.15749@cbfsb.cb.att.com> yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons) writes:
>
>Its interesting to see that the person who is claiming that evryone needs to 
>get out more, immediately follows up a post from someone else. Maybe you are 
>the one that needs to get out more.
>

 What an original comeback, with such wit and wisdom available on my
computer screen I see no reason to ever venture outside.  What happened,
did your Thighmaster slip causing you some inconvenience?

Ed
From: karl@isgtec.com (Karl Sewlochan)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Shoulder Stretches
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:47:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario


G'Day,

Does anyone have some good stretches for the shoulder (specifically
deltoid muscle)?

Please email and I'll summarize and post.

--
Karl Sewlochan        ...uunet.ca!isgtec!karl             karl@isgtec.com
ISG Technologies Inc.  3030 Orlando Dr. Mississauga.   Ont.  Can.  L4V 1S8
From: roberts@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (Don Roberts)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: MY MATCHES! (was Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to...)
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:01:11 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:

>Hey Don, you and I have the same arm size. Maybe you'd like to go at it with
>me, or are you too much of a western "sissy".  How's your back and your
>forearms, buddy?  Those who boast with little to back them up, usually end up
>in an embarrassing (sp!) situation.
>-Rob

Naw, if I were a "western sissy," I'd probably be more interested in that
leg-wrestling business folks was talkin' about. :)

Sorry to take so long to reply, Rob. I stopped by the hospital on the way
into work to visit the guy I armwrestled last night. Poor guy, I think he
said he was from somewhere in Jersey...  :) [now Chris: before you buy a
plane ticket to come out here and pound me into pate, keep in mind that I
lived in NJ for 5+ years of grad school before moving back out to the Left
Coast]

I think I'm at a disadvantage for armwrestling, though: I've been squatting
315# for ten lately. Guess I'll never make it into the Adam Silver
Armwrestling Hall of Fame :(

	-- Don
--
 Dr. Donald W. Roberts
   University of California                              Physicist
   Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory             Weightlifter
   dwr@llnl.gov
From: gb03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE PHILIP BLUHM)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: side effects of carbonated beverage consumption?
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:12:53 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Jul28.152452.17002@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgi
lio Velasco) writes:
>
>In a previous article, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) says:
>
>>
>>Are there any major negative side effects from drinking
>>carbonated beverages? Forget sugar, caffeine, etc-- does the
>>carbonation itself have an effect?
>
>CO2 dissolved in H20 produces carbonic acid (I forgot the exact
>formula).  This can wreak havoc on your digestive tract.  It probably
>doesn't do much for your teeth, either.
>
>Of course, it can also cause, er, flatulence.
>
>--
>Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU
>
>"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a
> an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
>
Do not forget the phosphoric acid in most carbonated beverages.  This can etch
the enamel of your teeth.  Noticaable when drinking a couple of gallons of
soda pop a day.

Don't drown.

George
From: macbeth.umd.edu!silver@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Arm Wrestling - Which Muscles ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:22:00 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <1992Jul22.165127.6956@cbnewse.cb.att.com> 
gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

>Actually, Adam, we all expected you to list everything that excluded
>any muscles in your legs :-).
>
>Man, 250 squat?  How do you stand up?  :-)
>
>GMS

Alright, Smart Asses.  Watch out!  I should be squatting about 405 for 6 to 7
reps by the end of the summer. :-)  Actually, I'm supposed to do legs 
tonight.
I haven't done them since my car accident.  I don't think I should post the
results.

       -Adam

-- 
     **********************************************************************
     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
     **********************************************************************
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: EXERCISE POLL
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:11:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Jul24.091151.4215
Organization: Western Washington University

stever@toptech.East.Sun.COM (Steve Rosenthal  Sun Microsystems  Tampa FL  Field Engineering) writes:

>  I'm sorry for not being able to give any more detail on what type of workout
> I am speaking of, but good things are worth waiting for!!
>                                                            Sincerely Yours,
>                                                            Steven Rosenthal

I hope you aren't another patsy pushing MLM shit on the net, but your 
post sure looks like an add to me. 

I assume you know its bad manners to try to use the net to peddle stuff,
etc.

Jim Del Vecchio
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:20:02 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Jul28.131633.9507@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:
> 
> I'm lookin for a way to tighten my abs so that my stomach will
> look the way it does when I consciously suck it in an inch or so...
> except I want it to look that way all the time, without having
> to suck it in. :)  Any suggestions?
> 
> -- 
>           aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)

Dan, if you want your abs to look like that all the time, then your going to
have to get them cut by doing aerobic work and reducing your fat intake to very
little.  Aside from that, do the regular situps, crunches, and leg lifts to
build the abdominals and obliques.

--Rob
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*                                       *                           *          *
*Rob Loszewski                         * *-------------------------* *         *
*Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu            *                           *          *
*                                                                              *
*                   "Hasta La Vista...Baby."--Arnold Schwarzenegger            *
*                                                                              *
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From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Recommended low-fat main courses
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:03:54 GMT
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Originator: stgprao@xing

In article <1992Jul22.210519.2123@nrao.edu> lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
>I was going to get into tofu, until I started reading the nutritional
>information. Seems that about 50% of the calories are from fat. Is this
>true with all brands of tofu?

Tofu is fermented soybean.
Soybean oil is common vegetable oil, e.g. fat.
Most, but not all, vegetable oils are reputed to be healthier than most
animal fats, but both are still fats.
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: rubber band machines
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:52:12 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul22.183344.8506@cs.tulane.edu>, fs@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann) writes:
> 
> I used to use Nautilus machines at a health club.
> Nowadays I have neither the money for membership
> nor the travel/dress/undress/wait-in-line time to spare.
> So I'm looking into home strength-training machines.
> 
> Some of these use weight-stacks, some thick rubber bands,
> and others use things that look like automobile shock-absorbers
> for the resistance.  Any opinion on which approach is best/worst?
> 
> My own inclination is to avoid the weight-stacks
> as being less safe with small children in the house.
> 
> The shock absorber type machines (e.g. Trimax & Nordicflex Gold)
> are pretty expensive, except for one brand that didn't offer
> a full range of exercises.
> 
> I believe competition will drive the prices down before long,
> and/or lead to significant product improvements.
> Therefore, to test my working-out resolve I am considering
> a cheap $300 Sears rubber band model while I wait for
> the really good machines to become affordable.
> How good are these cheaper models?

I've looked at these various machines from a physics standpoint,
the various "varied cam" machines (Nautilus, some Paramount, MD,
etc.), "piston" machines (Cybex, etc., if memory serves), and
variants (Universal, Gympak, etc.), "band" (Soloflex, etc.) and
although there's a lot of crap written about how and why each is better,
the best advice is to try one out.  I'm a bit skeptical about the
"band" machines.  If you have kids around, I'd just put a padlock
and chain on the machine in such a way as to keep the weights from
being lifted at all.  As for durability, if you can lift any
significant weight at all, I'd be skeptical about the piston or
band machines keeping you stressed enough.  Durability is one
way Nautilus machines really shine, but durability costs $$.
Dollar for dollar, I'm not sure you'll get much of a usable
machine of any "newer" technology like the bands or pistons
for 2-300 bucks.  Again, I'd say try one out.  Try to stress the
machine by seeing how much flex occurs if you, for instance,
move the bar against the normal track of motion, or if you
bounce it.  Also, of course, check for a weight rating that's
at least 50% higher than your max.

Just some thoughts.

GMS
From: sage.hnrc.tufts.edu!loszewski_im@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: How To Identify Lactic Acid Buildup?
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:30:00 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
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In article <30dmb2q.westes@netcom.com>, westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) 
writes:
> Could someone who is familiar with the subject please tell me what sorts
> of symptoms lactic acid buildup causes on the day *after* a long
> workout, and are there any ways to speed recovery?
> 
> I'm actually a windsurfer, not a runner, but it seems to me that lactic
> acid is a problem that runners deal with frequently.  I find that the
> day after a long day of windsurfing, my whole body is incredibly weak.
> It's not a localized pain, as with a weightlifting workout, but a
> general lethargy and a sensation in the muscle that it will not sustain
> any kind of work.  I guess I could describe the feeling as one of not
> having any glycogen stored in the muscle.  I'm not sore; it's more that
> I just lack any muscular energy.
> 
> Any thoughts on whether these symptoms are due to lactic acid, and can
> someone recommend a few tricks for speeding recovery from a long
> endurance workout?
> 
> Thanks,

Will,

"Lactic acid buildup can cause burning pain, especially in untrained muscles.
Lactic acid accumulation can lead to muscle exhaustion withing seconds if the
blood cannot clear it away.  A strategy for dealing with lactic acid buildup
 is to relax the muscles at every opportunity, so that the circulating blood
can carry the lactic acid away and bring Oxygen to support aerobic 
metabolism.
...much of the lactic acid is routed to the liver, where it is converted to 
glucose.  A little lactic acid remains in muscle tissue, where it is 
completely
oxidized when the oxygen supply is once again sufficient."  Understanding
Nutrition, 5th ed., Whitney, Hamilton, Rolfes., West Pub. Comp.  1990, pg402-
403.
Hope this was some help to you Will.  In my opinion, what your experiencing 
is
not lactic acid buildup but muscle breakdown due to a hard workout.  Also I 
wonder what you eat after your workout.  If you are not eating enough complex
carbs to refuel your muscles, your body is going to feel like spaghetti the
next day.  I think what your experiencing is what every hardcore bodybuilder
experiences.  If you have anymore questions, feel free to email me.

Rob
Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu

> Will Estes         Internet: westes@netcom.com 
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: harry@cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney)
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:11:17 GMT

loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
: Steve,  do you have proof that ephedrine is screened for in competition?  Also,

As emphasis to Steve's response, ephedrine is on the International
Olympic Comittee's list of banned substances, and is also called out
explicitly on the lists of all the various "NGB"s (national governing
bodies - e.g.  United States Cycling Federation).

: Ephedra can be found in Ma Huang tea which the Chinese have
: been drinking for centuries.

This is true, and Alexi Grewal (a cyclist) very nearly did not ride in
the 1984 Olympics because he drank some Ma Huang tea during a race which
preceeded the Olympics that year.  He managed to get a reprieve based on
an "I didn't know..."  plea.

Harry Phinney   harry@hp-pcd.cv.hp.com