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From: loreen@raider.SanDiego.NCR.com (Loreen Prinz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Australia
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:21:14 GMT
Reply-To: Loreen.Prinz@SanDiego.NCR.com
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA


Hi!

I will be travelling to Australia for 3 weeks this December/January.  This
may seem a silly question, but I am looking for suggestions of what to do
while there.  I'm pretty active, and would like my vacation to be also.  
Bike trips, hiking, sailing, etc.  I know I want to do a sailing trip in 
the Reef, and I will also be going to Sydney/Melbourne for ~5 days.  But 
what to do for the remaining week?  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

thanks,

Loreen
From: madsere@okys.infoserv.com (Rene Madsen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Phuket
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:47:29 GMT
Organization: Brackton Ltd. Luxembourg

In article <BHAG.92Sep22124859@etn.etn.ericsson.se>, bhag@etn.ericsson.se (Boerge Haga 2634) writes:
> In article <rw.717123029@donner> rw@donner.Rational.COM (Bob Weissman) writes:
> 
>    How do you pronounce "Phuket", anyway?
> 
> If you go to Thailand most people will pronoune it like the word "pocket"
> but with the "o" replaced by the "u" sound in e.g. "pull".

sawatdee khrap, 

You're close. Take the 'pu' from 'pull' and the 'ket' from 'rocket'. 
Stress on the 'ket' part.

-- 
Rene Madsen                
Unix Systems Support/Dev.       
madsere@okys.infoserv.com      
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: beatriz@dit.upm.es (Beatriz Parra Perez)
Subject: test
Organization: UUES, Asociacion de Usuarios de UNIX, Spain
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:25:24 GMT

 that is only a test.
 Thanks.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: tflynn@encore.com (Tonya Flynn)
Subject: Re: Bahamas?
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:13:02 GMT

     Does anyone out there know if travel to the Bahamas requires a
     passport?  I may have a chance to go there in about two weeks,
     and I don't think I can get a passport in that time.  Please
     e-mail reply.   Thanks.

I live in south Florida and travel to the Bahamas an average of four
times per year, usually aboard a privately owned sailboat.  I don't even
have a current passport or have my birth certificate in my possession.

A few years ago it was sufficient to present a driver's license.  That
is no longer true.  However, while a passport may be preferred by the
Bahamian officials, they have never denied any of us (and usually none
of us carry one) entry or exit from the country for lack of a passport.
They do demand, however, proof of U.S. citizenship and accept a current
voter's registration card as that proof.  We have, upon occasion,
been requested to also provide a photo ID such as a driver's license
which supposedly links the individual, the voter's registration card,
and the driver's license holder as the same person.

If you still have any questions, any travel agent or air carrier
can confirm which documents you will need.

                                           |
Tonya (I'd rather be Sailing) Flynn       /|\      6901 W. Sunrise Blvd.
(305/797-2446)                           / | \     Ft. Lauderdale, Fl 33313
"Let's just punch through that        ----------   UUCP:  uunet!gould!tflynn
sand bar"--Crew of Natty Dread          ------     INTERNET: tflynn@encore.com
From: karen@hrm-gate.uchicago.edu (Karen Spragle)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Austin
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:39:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Sep30.183924.9273
Organization: University of Chicago

Help!

I am considering a move to Austin, and would like some information on
the place.  ie:
				-how much are rents out there?  (studio?  one bedroom?)
			 -how's the job market?
    -what's the local newspaper called?
    -etc.
I have several friends moving that way.  They say it's a great place,
I'd like to hear more.

thanks
karen
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Dude Ranches, Flathead Lake Resort
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:02:27 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Anyone ever hear of Flathead Lake Resort, a Dude Ranch
in Western Montana?  My family's thinking of going there
for a week next summer, and would be interested in any
thoughts you may have about the place, or about dude
ranching in general.

	Tnx,
	Dave
Organization: mbp Software&Systems GmbH at ESOC, Darmstadt, Germany
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 13:50:32 CET
From: Dr. Lutz Massonne <LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Eurocard/Eurocheque card (was: Re: Exchanging money in Europe

There seems to be a continuous confusion between the Eurocard and the
Eurocheque card.

The EUROCARD is a credit card, associated with Mastercard and through this
valid all over the world. It comes in two specied: the "standard" Eurocard
and the "Gold" Eurocard which offers additional travel insurance and the such.

The EUROCHEQUE card originated as an ID card accompanying the Eurocheques
(which are standardised paper cheques which should in theory be valid
in all European countries without surcharge visible to the user).
Since some years the Eurocheque card has now a magnetic strip and can be used
to withdraw money from one's bank account (but its technically NOT a credit
card, you are not allowed to get more money than on your account, like
the paper cheques).

At least in Germany all bank ATM's accept Eurocheque cards from other
institutes, but they will charge the same fee as it you give them a paper
cheque from another institue (I think DM 4).

Regards, Lutz
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu
Subject: Re: Convertor from 220V/50hz to 110V/60hz?
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:07:11 GMT
Distribution: world 
 

In article <1992Sep30.161157.59309@cc.usu.edu> ma@cc.usu.edu writes:

>Can anyone recommend a place to buy or mail order a Voltage Convertor
>which converts Voltage from 220 to 110, frequency from 50 to 60 Hz?
>I have bought one years ago in another city. But I looked many stores here
>in town. Even Radio Shack doesn't have it.
>It is for US-made appliance to be used overseas. The power should be between
>500 to 1000 W.
>Appreciate for any information.
>Ma
>
I could never find a voltage converter in any of the electronics stores
(such as Radio Shack) near my home, however, I did find one at
a luggage/travel store near my home.  If you have not check your
local luggage or travel stores, you might try checking with them to see if
they carry converters.

Good Luck!

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

--
From: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: ****** The REC.TRAVELGUIDE ******
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:48:36 GMT
Reply-To: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Depts. of Computer Science & Psychology, The University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

In article <1992Sep28.162438.16583@sequent.com> kene@sequent.com (Ken Ewing) writes:
>In article <10431@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> bakker@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>>Introducing.... The REC.TRAVELGUIDE !
>
>A neat idea, but.... 
>
>>    ....I would envisage
>>perhaps a 10-20 line description. 
>
>This restriction is a bit short.  For example:  
>
>[..]
>
>etc., etc.  I could not accomplish this with a list of one-liners.  
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hang on, I meant that each item would be 10 to 20 lines long, not the
whole list! In total, 10 items * 10-20 lines = 100-200 lines on 
a city or country. 
Sure, it would be great to have longer items, but people just don't seem 
to have the time or inclination to write them. If I was editing a list
and someone submitted a really good story, I would use my editorial
discretion (;-) to leave it unabridged. Fear not!

Now, where are those short items about New York City? Surely someone has
something interesting say? I was thinking of using the subway to tour
some of the slum areas - has anyone tried that? Where can I get some
good views of the skyline? How does one go about getting cheap tickets
at short notice for Broadway plays?

anticipatingly,
paultje

--
(paul) bakker@cs.uq.oz.au     >  "Although the Australian accent does
computer science/ psychology  >   not lend itself as a pointer to
university of qld 4072        >   intellect, ... "
terra australis               >   The (British) Sunday Telegraph, 1992
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: lam@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Tony To Lam FSN)
Subject: Kauai, how are you doing?
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 22:17:04 GMT


Just wondering, how is Kauai doing after the storm now?
There has not been any news coverage on the rebuild after the storm.
Are things really so bad that it would took more than years to rebuild?
How are the scenic areas, such as the trail in northern part, doing?
From: karlab@usul.Eng.Sun.COM (Karla Black SunSoft-Software Test Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: GETAWAY-BEACH FRONT CONDO
Date: 3 Oct 1992 00:20:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: usul
Keywords: pajaro,monterey,santacruz,beachfront


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        This is the downstairs unit.  All amenities!


       *****Send email for more information OR call (408) 358-3201
       for reservations**** Just use this email as a reference.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Subject: Re: Driving from San Fran to Las Vegas
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:17:35 GMT


Maybe down at your junior university they've never heard of Frisco,
but as a fourth-generation resident I assure you it exists.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: hshulman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harvey G Shulman)
Subject: Re: Makena beach on Maui
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:58:49 GMT

I was in Maui last year and stayed at sugar beach on Makena Bay.
Makena bay runs roughly from Kihei to Makena Marina, about a
7 mile stretch on Maui's South-central shore.  Is that the area
you're refering to?  It's a beautiful area and the beach, at
least at the end nearest Kihei is white sand and great for
swimming (sandy bottom and shallow).  Not so good for snorkeling,
though you can easily drive to nearby areas of south Maui for that,
or take a boat from Makena marina out to molokini (?), which is
a volcanic ridge about 5 miles offshore that has pretty good
snorkeling.

I never saw any campgrounds on Makena bay or noticed anyone camping
'unofficially'.  Nor do I recall any parks with 'facilities' that
could be used by unofficial campers.  But I could be wrong.
As far as the local population- none to speak of on Makena Bay,
and Kihei is pretty ordinary too.  

Harvey Shulman
Ohio State University
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Inexpensive room in Las Vegas for COMDEX
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:13:35 GMT


At last year's COMDEX, I scouted some of the small hotels (those who
don't book rooms through the Interface Group) in the area around the
convention center.  Several had vacancies.  Some of the smaller
places in the old downtown area also had vacancies all week long.
Unfortunately I've lost my list ...
From: nbeck@weber.ucsd.edu (Nathaniel Beck)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Exchanging money in Europe
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:54:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1a79r8INN3ac
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <13353@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>
>
>
>>Every town had one (usually more) ATM's. As did the airports.
>>Withdrawals from these machines were converted at NY money market
>>rates (same as for a credit card purchase.) We never had any
>>difficulty finding a machine,
>
>Do European ATMs participate in some of the traditional
>US ATM networks (Cirrus, Stratus, Plus, etc), and is this
>how you're able to withdraw cash from them?  IE- The funds
>come directly from your own bank account.
>
>Or are they just treated as credit card cash advances?a
>
>	Dave

We never found a machine that allowed for simple cash withdrawals.
We always just got a cash advance against our visa credit line.
Hence the need to prepay.

(We met several people who didn't have their visa pin. If you are
like us, you never use them at home and have no idea what they are.
If you travel, call up your bank and get the number, just in case.)

Neal

-- 
Neal Beck 
Dept of Politcal Science, UCSD
beck@ucsd.edu
Dislaimer: The Regents pay me (in scrip?) to distribute my opinions!
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: chrisi@lloyd.Camex.COM (Chris Ischay)
Subject: Re: The "official" term
Keywords: travelling
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:55:33 EDT

In article <22871@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S.
Ou) writes:

   When someone travels to a place, any place, say, Yellow Stone, and
   stays in the same place for about 1-2 weeks, is there a term that
   describes this kind of travelling?
   (how about "extended tourism"?)

How about "vacation?"

I don't want to read too much into the lines between this question, 
or I might get depressed.  What would be the other style of travel
that't not included in this term?  Some kind on not-extended tourism,
such as the one-day one-country approach?  I think even Cook himself
left a little more time than that.

Chris Ischay
chrisi@camex.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.restaurants
From: sjf@philabs.philips.com (Sharon Flamholtz)
Subject: Bermuda
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:01:03 GMT

I am planning to travel to Bermuda in mid November.  Any information
concerning this Island will be appreciated.  Thank you in advance.
From: gerthw@bionette.cgrb.orst.edu (William Gerth)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: traveling in Southeastern Europe: addendendum
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:23:17 GMT
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU, Corvallis, OR.

Ooops!

My friends were also interested in the same information about 
Hungary and western Turkey (not Eastern Turkey).

Thanks again!

-Bill
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wl8f@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Wei  Liu)
Subject: SanFrancisco or Los Vegas?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:03:08 GMT



My husband and I are going to Neuroscience meeting at Anaheim, CA.
After the meeting, we will have 3 days to drive around.  There are two choices: 1. to
San Francisco or/and Yosemite.  2. to Los Vegas or/and Grand Canyon.  We
have not been to CA before.  We really want to know which way is more
interesting at the end of October.  Any information/suggestion/opinion is
appreciated.  Thanks in advance!
--
***********************
*  Wendy Liu          *  
*  804-979-3703(Home) *
*  804-982-0959(Work) *
From: steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Spain info request
Keywords: Madrid, Barcelona
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:04:06 GMT
Organization: IntelliGenetics Inc., Mtn. View, Ca.


My wife and I will be in Spain for 2 weeks in October.  We're flying
into Madrid, taking the train to Seville, train to Barcelona, and back
to Madrid.  Most of our time will be in and around Seville since we
have a friend there and a place to stay.

I would appreciate any suggestions of restaurants and inexpensive
hotels or pensions in Madrid and Barcelona, or any tips in general on
travelling in Spain.  

Thanks.  I'll summarize replys if anyone else is interested.

--steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: maretz@saturn.osf.org ( Maretz)
Subject: RT Tix avail: Boston to South Bend for Notre Dame f'ball wknd
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:05:41 GMT

Two roundtrip tickets on American Airlines available for the
BYU football weekend at Notre Dame.  Details are:

        Leave Logan Airport at 7:11pm on Fri., Oct. 23, arrive in South Bend
        at 10:15pm, after connecting through Chicago.

        Leave South Bend at 5:44pm on Sun., Oct. 25, arrive at Logan
        Airport at 10:58pm, after connecting through Nashville.

	One ticket under a male name, one under a female name.

The price of the tickets is $200 per person, round-trip.

Andy Maretz
maretz@osf.org
617-621-8982
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sysmark@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Mark Bartelt)
Subject: NYC lodging recommendations?
Reply-To: mark@cita.toronto.edu
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:53:16 GMT

I'll be making a trip to New York later this month, and would appreciate
whatever suggestions anyone might have on places to stay.  I'd prefer to
be as close as possible to Lincoln Center.  Can one find hotels in that
neighbourhood which aren't horribly expensive, but are still acceptable
places to spend the night?  (Does such a thing even exist in Manhattan?)
Recommendations for a nice B&B in the Lincoln Center area would be nice
as well.  As usual, many thanks in advance.

PS:  I'll be there on a Friday/Saturday night, so if there are any hotels
which offer weekend "specials" (as hotels in many cities do), that would
be a useful bit of information.  Thanks!

Mark Bartelt                                                416/978-5619
Canadian Institute for                             mark@cita.toronto.edu
Theoretical Astrophysics                           mark@cita.utoronto.ca

"Clothes not busy being worn are busy drying."  -  Dylan, on laundry day
          [ singing "It's all right, ma (I'm only bleaching)" ]
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.railroad
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: TGV Nord (Was Re: Orlyval bankrupt?)
Organization: LLNL
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:52:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.213107.19574@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji) writes:
>There is a permanent exhibit and information center at Gare du Nord,
>where one can pick up all sorts of very informative brochures about
>TGV Nord, TGV Atlantique and future plans of SNCF. The amount of new
>TGV lines that SNCF plans to construct by 2015 is very impressive. The
>fact that most of the financing will be arranged through bonds is also
>very impressive.

	Exactly _where_ will all these routes go?

	The use of bonds presumably means that the TGV is
cost-effective enough not to need big subsidies. That seems like good
news for high-speed railroading.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: siho@manny.megatek.com (Si Ho)
Subject: Caribbean in June
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:16:20 GMT



	My fiancee & I are thinking of going to the Caribbean next June.
	We would like to hear any opinion, advices, suggestions/recommendations
	about the weather, hotels, airline tickets, activities, islands to
	visit, cruseship....etc, etc.......



	-Si~
-- 
Me^'n,		"I look at thing from one point of view.............Mine."
Si~ Ho^`,
INTERNET:	siho@megatek.com 	UUCP:	{ucsd,uunet,suntan}!megatek!siho
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: hpouncy1
Subject: Amtrak - good idea to Denver?
Reply-To: cc.swarthmore.edu
Organization: swarthmore college
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:38:45 GMT

I am thinking of traveling with my family by train from the east coast
to Denver.  Is this is a good idea?  We have a four year old.  Has
anybody taken a youngster on a long train ride?  What would you
recommend?  Is one route more interesting?  Are sleeping cars worth
the added expense?  Do they show movies on long train rides?  

Please send ideas.  

Thank you. 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Hotel in San Francisco
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:20:55

Husband Steinar and i are traveling to San Francisco at the end of
this month.  (Is it just me, or is S.F. a common destination for
Europe-based Usenetters lately?  Anyway...)  He will be there in
connection with a connection with a conference from October 26
to 30, i will be arriving on the 30th and we will stay in the area
together until November 6.  We are also planning, while there,
to rent a car and drive out to Yosemite and/or the Grand Canyon.

The real question is, can anyone recommend an inexpensive place to
stay in San Francisco?  Steinar was thinking of some place with a
double room for under $60 a night, i have no idea how realistic this
is.  A simple place is fine, so long as it's clean (we won't spend
much time awake there anyway).  The conference will be at the Moscone
Center (Howard and 3rd, if this map is to be trusted), but any place
with decent public transportation there will do nicely.  Please
e-mail so i don't miss it on the net.  

In addition, if anyone has information they'd like to share on the
S.F. area, or Yosemite or the G. Canyon, i'd appreciate it!
Especially if it involves things that go on rails.... 8-)  (We have
some guide books so we have general information, but maybe people
who know the area well know things the guide books miss?)

Thanks so much!
-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Subject: renting a car in DC for three days in Oct
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:53:52 GMT

how much does it cost to rent a car from DC National for
Sunday through Wednesday?

Thanks
Michael
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kai1@dasher.uucp (Kai Chiu)
Subject: info needed - caribbean cruise
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:38:04 GMT


I'd like to get some help in planning a cruise vacation to 
caribbean islands during the christmas time. This will
be our first cruise so all relevant information would be
very much appreciated. The specific questions I have now 
are as follows:

1) Which cruise lines/ships should we look for or avoid? Why?
2) What price range is considered reasonable?
3) Pros and cons of having higher/lower, in/outside cabins?
4) Your own experience or advises you think helpful for us to know
   (we are 4 adults and a 2-yr-old child)? 
 
I'll post a summary if enough interests...

Thanks in advance, 

Kai Chiu
From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Anyone know about festival in Quito Dec. 6??
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:18:24 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In looking through The SA Handbook, in dreamy anticipation of my
vacation trip to Quito, Equador the last part of November and the
first part of December, I note that it says:

	"Another festival, for week ending Dec. 5, celebrates
	 foundation of [Quito].  Hotels allowed to charge extra.
	 Bullfights, and music in streets."

Anyone been through this?  Anything good/bad which I might want
to see/avoid?

Thanks for any info from someone who has "been there and back!"

John


--
John W. Nall              | Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
nall@mailer.scri.fsu.edu  | Florida State University, Tallahassee, Florida