From: christer@sue.komunity.se (Christer Romson)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Event announcements
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:58:52 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 08: 33 MET DST

I apologice for the previous message that was a quote only, without my
comments. This is the message i intended to send.

Tibor:
>Lindorm takes issue with some of my conclusions about East Kingdom Law,
>and the rights of Seneschals.  I'm gonna do my thing, which is defend myself
>by quoting more law.

That's what i hoped you would. You convinced me that the Seneschal has the
right to make the policy that all events shall be announced in Pikestaff.
You didn't convince me that the Chronicler has such a right, though.

>I can ... easily make the
>case that the Chronicler is in fact allowed to make this rule.  The Chronicler
>is required to supervise all SCA newsletters in the kingdom, the kingdom law
>is allowed to be more stringent than the corporate.  Governing and Policy
>Decision #1, anything the kingdom's publish except kingdom newsletters are
>not official, and is not a "corporate publication".  

From this you can conclude that kingdom law is allowed to require
that events be publihed in Pikestaff and that the Chronicler is allowed to
make policies on the supervision of newsletters. But Tibor makes the point:

>[that] The kingdom chronicler,
>... can require that official SCA events be published in the official
>corporate publication of the Kingdom.

I don't think this follows from Corpora and Kingdom Law. It is a little
besides the point. The seneschal has delegated his right to make such
decisions to the chronicler, thus it's currently irrelevant if such a right
would follow directly from Corpora and Law.

>Contrariwise, it would be dangerous for legal reasons to allow non-official
>newsletters the latitude to determine what is and is not an official SCA
>event.

Maybe i don't understand some of the finer distinctions of the use of the
word "determine", but since Corpora defines what is an official SCA events,
a local newsletter cannot change that. Are you arguing that an event becomes
official when it's announced to the members (that's what Corpora says isn't
it), and by requiring that events be announced in Pikestaff, something
announced in a local newsletter only isn't an event? I don't think that's
correct. The autocrat (or someone else) should have announced it in
Pikestaff, but not doing so doesn't change the event-status of this kind of
meeting. 

>However, I would recommend that the Board modify the original wording, and
>require official events to be listed in Corporate publications.  I'm looking
>forward to your (collective) replies.

That wouldn't only be a change of wording, but a change of meaning too. I
don't think the event announcements i see in Pikestaff has enough (or the
right) information for anyone (editor of a corporate publication or not)
could say if they would cause a legal problem or not. I doubt that Ellisif
even knows what would cause legal problems in the Drachenwaldian countries!
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