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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:34:45 EST
Reply-To:     C0150@VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU
From:         C0150@VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU
Subject:      Book found
Comments: To: roots-l%ndsuvm1.bitnet@VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU

  Hello fellow rooters,

  On a recent visit to a local bookstore that specializes in older
  books, I asked if they had anything on genealogy.  They had the
  following book.  If anyone on the net is interested, please email
  me and I will try and give you more information.

  "Early Settlers of Sangamon County, Illinois"

  On a quick scan, it seems to be an alphabetical listing of the settlers
  of the area for the 1800's, with short descriptive paragraphs of each one.

  Linda Hager
  C0150@VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU
  C0150@CSUOHIO
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:44:13 EST
Reply-To:     "Robert J. Behnen" <AD38%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>
From:         "Robert J. Behnen" <AD38%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      St. Cloud, MN & Vicinity
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

Greetings:

I just stumbled across a lead recently on a dead end family.  I was told
that my great Uncle, Father Garcias Behnen, visited relatives in St.
Cloud, Minnesota while pastor at the catholic church in Little Falls,
Minnesota. The relations were a WIEBER family living around St. Cloud
or Little Falls, MN.The time period was around 1950's or so.

QUESTION: Could some nice soul with access to a phone bookfrom the area
please look up the name WIEBER and send me some phone numbers.  I would
really appreciate it.  I know it is a long shot; however, when you have
got a dead end you get mighty desperate.

Thanks in advance,

Bob


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*  Bob Behnen                                                      *
*  Home:  301 South High, Apt 2   Work:  Northeast Mo State Univ   *
*         Kirksville, MO  63501          Alumni/Development Ofc    *
*  Phone:  (816) 665-9949                Kirksville, MO  63501     *
*                                                                  *
*                                                                  *
*  Bitnet:  AD38@NEMOMUS                                           *
*  Internet:  AD38%NEMOMUS@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU                  *
*                                                                  *
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: another correction (was Jewish names)
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:43:18 GMT
Summary: from Morgenthau's family history

I've caught myself in another mistatement of fact. 

In order to check on what I thought I had read I went back to the book to find 
out what it actually was. 

Henry Morgenthau III writes in his family history that the first name of 
record was Moses (no not that one). This one was born in 1773 in Gleusdorf, 
Bavaria.  He says that according to laws established by Napoleon, Jews had to
take names upon becoming a citizen of a state.  Obviously we are talking 
German states under French rule.  In Bavaria the Jews were granted citizenship
in 1813 and it is likely that Moses then took his name.  His family tradition
has it that the name was only thought up while waiting in line at the townhall
where they were assigning names to the new citizens.  There he stood in the
pre-dawn hour in the morning dew ...

I obviously mixed something up as I thought this naming process happened much
earlier. Perhaps different German states had different rules. But it bothers 
me when I speak without the facts.

Fred
-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     "A man's library is a sort of 
26 Warren St.   home: fr@icdi10.compu.com 	harem" - Emerson (1860) 
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   
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From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: Re: New support for technology.. from another electronic source
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:14:19 GMT

Tom Lincoln <lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG> writes:

 >On Thursday, January 21, less than 24 hours after President Clinton
 >was inaugurated, Senate Democrats introduced S. 4, the National
 >Competitiveness Act.  This bill includes most of the components of
 >three bills introduced in the last Congress, but blocked by the
 >Bush Administration:

 [Lengthy post regarding Democratic technical wonderfulness deleted]

Uh Tom, you might want to check your editor.  You somehow managed to post
this to soc.roots instead of alt.fan.clinton.

 ========================================================================
 |             Don Wiggins     wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu              |
 |----------------------------------------------------------------------|
 |Researching WIGGINS, STALEY, HALL, BIRKHIMER, MCINTIRE, STEPHENSON,   |
 |REED, COWDEN, ELSON, ALBIN, JENKINS, GREENTREE, PREBLE, TEAGARDEN,    |
 |HUNLEY, (and for my wife): CHANCE, PARK, MUNRO, BRANDON, DIETRICH     |
 ========================================================================
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:35:18 EST
Reply-To:     "Robert J. Behnen" <AD38%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>
From:         "Robert J. Behnen" <AD38%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Preuss Minsen, Germany
Comments: To: Roots-L@vm1.nodak.edu

Fellow Rooters:

I am trying to locate a town in Germany called Preuss Minsen.  The town n
appeared as the birthplace of my gg grandmother.  I also heard it might t
be Preuss Minden.

Although I have looked for several variations, I have not been able to
find it.  For example, I thought Preuss may have just meant Preussen
(Prussia).  In that case I did find a Minden in Germany.  I am not
convinced, however, that this assumption is correct.  Therefore, could
someone with a better Atlas of old Germany or Prussia, please look for   a
Preuss Minsen, Preuss Minden, or simply a Minsen.

Thank you,

Bob Behnen

>
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> *  Bob Behnen                                                      *
> *  Home:  301 South High, Apt 2   Work:  Northeast Mo State Univ   *
> *         Kirksville, MO  63501          Alumni/Development Ofc    *
> *  Phone:  (816) 665-9949                Kirksville, MO  63501     *
> *                                                                  *
> *                                                                  *
> *  Bitnet:  AD38@NEMOMUS                                           *
> *  Internet:  AD38%NEMOMUS@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU                  *
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:44:21 PST
Reply-To:     "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 27-Jan-1993 0835" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
From:         "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 27-Jan-1993 0835" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      DAR Grave Marker Query
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Does a DAR grave marker indicate that the buried person had descendants
that are members of the DAR? One of my ancestors Abraham KITTLE Sr. has
just such a marker on his grave and I was wondering if this indicated
that one of his descendants joined the DAR or if the DAR just places
these markers on all known Revolutionary War veterans graves?

Thanks

Mike

+-------------------------------+
|  Mike Holland                 |
|  Digital Equipment Corp.      |
|  305 Rockrimmon Blvd.         |
|  Colorado Springs, Colorado   |
|  (719)592-5964                |
|  holland@cx3com.enet.dec.com  |
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Holland, Chapman, Jacobs, Womble, Hester, Baker, Grimmer,
Trawick, Shouter, Stringer, Montgomery, King, Wheeler, Antley
USA/AL/GA/FL/SC/NC/VA early 1700s until Present

Smith, Scott, Pritchard, Kittle, Dennison, Skidmore, Shelton,
Dalton, Tharp, Garvin, Moody, Johnson, Stalnaker, Crawford,
Skinner, Davis, Henkle/Henckel/Hinkle, Henderson, Caldwell,
Wagner, Eschmann/Eshman/Ashman/Asheman, Dentzer, Geibel
USA/WV/VA/PA/NJ/Ireland/Scotland/Wales/Germany late 1500s to present

Grover, Torry, Moore, Adair, Henderson, Sayels, McMurray,
Ganer, Wood, Lewis, McAlister, McSweeney
USA/VT/NY/MA/Ireland/Scotland early 1700s to present
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: Looking for place(s) to donate new KAUFFMANN genealogy book
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:02:13 GMT

>> A cousin who has been researching the descendants of Martin
>> KAUFFMANN (born about 1590) is about to publish her work.  I'm
>> ...[interested] in buying a few copies to donate to appropriate
>> genealogy collections.

>Local historical and/or genealogical societies in places where the Kauffmans  
>lived (especially earlier generations of the family) would welcome copies;  
>also the Allen County Public Library in Fort Wayne IN.

If these are the same Kauffmanns I'm researching -- Swiss Mennonites
who emigrated to Pennsylvania -- _please_ make sure that the Lancaster
Mennonite Historical Society gets a copy!

You might also want to give one to the Cal State library at Sutro, which
has a number of other Kauffmann-related works (according to Melvyl).

--                    __
Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
  Searching, among others:  BERG, BOMBERGER, COBLE, DARIG, ERISMAN, GEUNDER,
  HABECKER, HERR, HERSCHE/HERSHEY, KAUFFMAN, KENDIG, KLINE, LAMERE, MUSSER, 
  NEWCOMMER, SHELLENBURGER, WITMER (early Pennsylvania Germans, mostly Swiss)
From: lillyj@OHSU.EDU (Jill Lilly,MAC,PCHS)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Baldwin College, Ohio
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: "Jill Lilly,MAC,PCHS" <lillyj@OHSU.EDU>
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I'm looking for information about Baldwin College, which is/was in Northern
Ohio.
 Could someone tell me the answers to the following questions:

        Is it still in existence?

        What kind of college is it? (Liberal Arts, Seminary?)

        Does anyone have their address?

        If they are not still in existence, where might I write for
        information?

Thanks for any assistance you can render.

Jill Lilly
OHSU
lillyj@ohsu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:34:00 EST
Reply-To:     JMFREED@CC.OWU.EDU
From:         JMFREED@CC.OWU.EDU
Subject:      Montgomery County, PA Births, 1682-1800
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@vm1.NoDak.edu

Just arrived:  John T. Humphrey's book, "Pennsylvania Births,
Montgomery County, 1682-1800", Humphrey Publications, Washington, D.C.,
1993.  If you have a large number of ancestors in that county, you
might find it helpful to order a copy or ask your genealogical library
to order a copy.  Write to John T. Humphrey, P. O. Box 15190,
Washington, D.C. 20003.  (Phone 202-544-4142).  I paid less than $40
for it from a book dealer--do not know how much to buy direct.
It is packed full of birth information, 536 pages, abstracted from
religious records of many types.  Montgomery County, PA had no civil
records for that time, but this book contains birth or baptism records
from 28 different sources, including the following groups or sources:
Friends, Presbyterian, Baptist, Evangelical Lutheran, Reformed,
Protestant Episcopal, and records from Rev. John Casper Stoever and
 Rev. Henry Melchior Muhlenberg.  Some of these birth records have
been published before, but it appears that Humphrey is compiling
some birth records that have NOT been published before.  For the
record, I have NO financial interest in the publication....  I hope
he publishes marriage records from similar sources.  For

FOR A LIMITED TIME, I will be happy to check the book for specific
names (surnames and first names or parents names) if netters send
me private email prior to February 3, 1993.  Give alternate surname
spellings (e.g., my Freed family is spelled both Fried and Freed by
the same source in this publication).  Roots-L and Soc Roots
netters only.
jmfreed@cc.owu.edu
P. S., please be brief with your requests; my email storage space
is limited.
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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: the illusive Robert Dee
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:23:39 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <8D625BA8E0E2C528@MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU> LIB026@MARSHALL.MU.WVNET.EDU writes:
>My great grandfather Michael Dee was born in St. Catherines, Ontario,
>September 6, 1854......

>they lived in Canada near Holland's Landing

>  Where is Holland's Landing and St. Catherines?
>Would be more than happy to share information.

Melvyl is always happy to share information:

1.
Author: Rubincam, Milton, 1909-
Title:  Alexander Sutherland of Holland Landing, Ontario, and his
family: a problem in Canadian genealogy. Washington, D. C.,
National Genealogical Society, 1962.
Description:    pp. 153-158. 26cm. unbound.

Notes:  Reprinted from National Genealogical Society Quarterly, vol. 50,
no. 3, September 1962.

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS71 S958 1962

3.
Author: Smith, W. Randy.
Title:  The early development of three upper Canadian towns : Barrie,
Holland Landing, and Newmarket / by W. Randy Smith. Toronto :
Dept. of Geography, York University, 1977.
Description:    54 p. : ill. ; 28 cm.

Series: Discussion paper - Department of Geography, York University ;
no. 16.

Notes:  Bibliography: p. 52-54.

Subjects:       City planning -- Ontario -- Barrie -- History.
City planning -- Ontario -- Holland Landing -- History.
City planning -- Ontario -- Newmarket -- History.

Other entries: Discussion paper (York University (Toronto, Ont.). Dept. of
Geography) ; no. 16.

Call numbers:   SRLF    D 0003979242 Type EXP SRLF for loan details.

Good Searching!
From: RJHARRIS@KSUVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Baldwin College, Ohio
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: RJHARRIS@KSUVM.BITNET
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  Try Baldwin-Wallace College--somewhere near Cleveland.
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:39:10 EST
Reply-To:     "JANE TORRES, (812)855-0383" <JETORRES@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
From:         "JANE TORRES, (812)855-0383" <JETORRES@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Library Network Access
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@vm1.nodak.edu

Just wanted to add that the bibliographic records of the holdings of the
Ohio Historical Society are now on line.  They can be accessed through
the Ohio State Library (telnet) or there is a gateway from Wright State
University in Dayton, OH.  Most of the material does not circulate BUT
if OSU has a copy, that copy may circulate.

The OSU OPAC is much different that any other I have encountered but it
can be mastered if one follows the instructions.  Consult Baron's list
or download from ROOTS-L the file that has access codes and password
information.
                                  Jane Torres
                                  jetorres@ucs.indiana.edu
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:02:16 GMT
Reply-To:     VIVIEN HICK <HICKC89@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
From:         VIVIEN HICK <HICKC89@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      Jacobites Flemings and Irish
Comments: To: Roots-L@ndsuvm1.bitnet

Some people were looking for Flemings and in looking for something else I came
across the following:
Analecta Hibernica, No. 22 Dublin Stationery Office, Irish Mss Commission, 1960
 has lists from Trinity College MSS (with indexes to people and places)
 of Irish
Jacobites outlawed in England; outlawed for high treason in Ireland; outlawed
for foreign treason; adjudications under the articles of Limerick and Galway 16
92-1699; special pardons etc.
They include twelve Flemings.

Also of interest to genealogists in the same volume:
Valuation of Kells (1663);
Reports of the Duke of Devonshire's irish estates 1794-7 by the agebt Henry Bow
man.
State-aided emigration schemes from Crown estates in Ireland c. 1850  (Ballykil
cline, Co. Roscommon, Irvilloughter and Boughill Co Galway, Kingwilliamstown, C
o. Cork, Castlemaine, Co. Kerry, Kilconcouse, King's County (Offaly)). There ar
e also a few letters from emigrants to relatives in Ireland.
Vivien Hick
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:19:03 EST
Reply-To:     Suzanne Badenhop <AHCSBB@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
From:         Suzanne Badenhop <AHCSBB@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      BADENHOP GENEALOGY

One of my current genealogy projects is to assemble a data base
on all of the Badenhops in the United States.  Thus far, I have
found six Badenhop families who immigrated to the United States
from the German Kingdom of Hannover.  They all settled in Henry
County Ohio in the New Hannover Settlement there.

To date, I have over 1,000 names in the data base.  These include
both ancestors and descendants of these six families.  I would like
to make it as complete as possible.

If any of you on the network know a Badenhop or Badenhoop, or find
one in your local phone book, would you please send me their names
and address so that I can include them in the data base?  Be sure
to send them directly to me and do not post them on the network.

There were four Badenhop's who served in the Civil War.  One was
listed as Ernest Badenhop from Georgia.  Does anyone have information
on this Ernest Badenhop?   Conrad Badenhop, of New York City, was
another one.  In his pension application, he stated that he was on
business in South Carolina when the war broke out there and was forced
to join the Confederate Army.  Someone had made a notation on his
pension request to the effect that this was evidence that men were
"forced" to join the Confederate Army!

My goal in all of this is to produce a reference document for future
generations to use.

Looking forward to your e-mail messages.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:18:52 -0500
Reply-To:     Marc Allan Rouleau <rouleau@WPI.WPI.EDU>
From:         Marc Allan Rouleau <rouleau@WPI.WPI.EDU>
Subject:      files
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/files roots-l
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:34:00 O
Reply-To:     Tom Sundius U of Helsinki +358 0 1918339 <SUNDIUS@FINUH.BITNET>
From:         Tom Sundius U of Helsinki +358 0 1918339 <SUNDIUS@FINUH.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "perpetual" calendar

Tom Lincoln says that his program shows the transition from OldStyle
to Newstyle to happen in Finland on 12/31/1917, i.e. the same date as
for Russia. This must, however, be wrong, because Finland was a part of
Sweden when Sweden made the transition on 2/17/1753. Since the NewStyle was
introduced by the Swedish king already at that time, there was no reason
for the Russian emperor to introduce the Russian (Oldstyle) calendar in
Finland when Finland became part of Russia in 1809.

    Greetings, Tom S.

+--------------------------------------------------------------------+
! Tom Sundius                          Department of Physics         !
! Internet: sundius@cc.helsinki.fi     University of Helsinki        !
! BitNet:   SUNDIUS@FINUH              SF-00170 Helsinki, Finland    !
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From: achristo@pons.uio.no (Alf Christophersen)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re:      German Surnames
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:18:34 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo


>
>I do not know if this applies to German surnames or not, but
>in Sweden men were given names when they were drafted into the
>King's military service.  In that case, the source of the name
>would be unrelated to geography or possibly logic.
>
>Ron
>
I'm not quite sure, but if my memory is correct, you choose a
surname which was often constructed in latin from the farm you
came from. This example is for Denmark-Norway who had many german
officers in the days before 1814.

Famous example is Rasmus Berg who became Erasmus Montanus.

The tradition also exists amongst the academians (Rasmus Berg got
the surname when he was being a student, not when he was drafted
into the military.) I think in military you also used names
constructed in other languages than latin, often german, from
their profession, a blacksmith got the familyname Smith etc.
I think there was a difference in tradition btw. Sweden and
Norway/Denmark since you was given a new surname in Sweden (other
constructed it), but you took a new surname in Norway-Sweden (you
constructed it).
From: alanj@endeavor18.tek.com (Alan Jeddeloh)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Message for Robert Thomin
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:21:09 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <28JAN93.10420757.0146.MUSIC@NEMOMUS> "Robert J. Behnen" <AD38%NEMOMUS.bitnet@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU> writes:
>>
>> From what I have gathered from others answering on the net, it
>> looks like the Bremen records were destroyed.  Now Alan Jeddoh
>> says he knows someone on Prodigy who will look up records.  I
>> asked him how; however I haven't received any word yet.
>>
>> Alan's id number is Alan.Jeddeloh@tek.com  Maybe he can help
>> you out.  My impression though is that the only way we can get
>> records for Bremen is by our ports and what ships arrived from
>> Bremen.
>>
>> Another person wrote that there were books listing ships coming
>> from Bremen to NYC from 1840-1880.  He wasn't sure of the title
>> however he thought it might be Gary Zimmerman's Germans to NY.

First of all, I need to clarify.  I've only started on Prodigy and their
Genealogy BB.  One of the current Subjects under the GERMAN Topic is
"Bemen Passenger Lists" (roughly translates as "GenealogyBB.German, subject
"Bemen Passenger Lists".  There is one person who is offering to
look up names, but since I came into the disscussion late, I don't know
the exact details of the resource being used.  I have sent him a query on
my SUDDENDORF line, and he replied he would have any info this Friday.

Along these lines, can anyone out there provide a definitive listing of
known Emmigration Lists for Germany?  I have heard, for example, of the
Hamberg Passenger Lists, but never located an access to them.  I have consulted
_Germans to America_ in all there glorious volumes (:-).  I've also
heard of Wurtenburg Emmigration Index, a Baden Passenger List, etc., but
I'm not clear what other resources are out there.

Alternatively, can someone supply a reference to such a compendium?

--
    Alan Jeddeloh      W:(503) 685-2991  H:(503) 292-9740
    Tektronix, Inc.; D/S 60-850; PO Box 1000; Wilsonville, OR 97070
    Alan.Jeddeloh@tek.com 
    You can put the children to bed, but you can't make them sleep!
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From: roman@mpgs.enet.dec.com
Subject: My Tiny Tafel
Organization: 	Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 23 JAN 93 11:39:32    

     Michael Roman
     402 Davis Street
     Northboro, MA 01532
     508-393-5657

Interested in hearing from and comparing notes with others in regards to the
following families:

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