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From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Be like Scott!!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:16:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.035107.9011@medsys.rn.com> bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.162650.9055@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And
>>>the Han heritage and never assume that a Han will choose not to be proud
>>     ^^^ I would say chinese here         ^^^ here too 
>>
>
>Do you have any idea whom you are talking to, Mr. Zuo? Not many pro-TIers

Yes , I did , in the context . I don't have any intention to claim a
person is a chinese . I simply don't care . 

>would claim that they are Chinese simply because doing so would make TI
>less convincing.
>
>Chou1
>                                             


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear))
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:20:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.133736.6015%ywang@Uz.nthu.edu.tw> ywang@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (Brian the Midnight Rider) writes:
>
>     It was the 45th anniversary of the Affiliated Senior High School
>of the National Taiwan Normal University on Apr 12.
>     If you or you know someone was graduated from HSNU, please
>contact the alumni's association, especially if you have lost touch
>with us.
>     HSNU Alumni's Association
>     143, Sec. 3, Hsin I Rd.
>     Taipei, Taiwan
>     R.O.C.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Brian Y. Wang ( HSNU H688 )
>National Tsing Hua University
>ywang@Uz.nthu.edu.tw

	Greeting for the big day! And thanks, HSNU (the senior high
	school of National Taiwan Normal University), for giving me
	the best high school life I could get in Taiwan.....

	Paul T.Y. Shih (H472)
%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%
*				      *					  *
%	   Paul T.Y. Shih             % So many paths that wind and wind, %
*     Systems Design Engineering      *  While just the art of being kind *
%   University of Waterloo, Canada    % Is all the sad world needs....... %
*				      *				   	  *
%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: kychen@chem.nthu.edu.tw (Kuang-Yu Chen (035)715131-3352)
Subject: help!!!
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:41:05 GMT

Dear Mr. & Mrs. :

I am applying for admission to Marine-Estuarine-Environmental
Science Graduate Program at the Univ. of Maryland. The Graduate
Admissions Committee informed me that it is not possible for me
to be admitted without a major advisor.

I want to contact some faculty members in MEES Program, but I
have no their email addr.. It's urgent for me.

The list of the professors is in the following :
(1) Dr. Bashore, Terry,   NATS/UMES
(2) Dr. Hoogland, John L.,  AEL/CEES
(3) Dr. Inouye, David W., ZOOL/UMCP
(4) Dr. Kuenzel, Wayne J., POUL/UMCP
(5) Dr. Mench, Joy A., POUL/UMCP
(6) Dr. Provine, Robert, PSYC/UMBC
(7) Dr. Rohwer, Frank C., AEL/CEES
(8) Dr. Costanza, Robert, CBL/CEES

If someone knows their email addr., please tell me or you can
give me other advices.

Thanks in advance.

______________________
kychen@y5.nthu.edu.tw
886-35-715131 ext3352
Room 265, Dept. of Chemistry, National Tsing Hua U., 
Hsinchu, Taiwan 300
From: tchung@cs.tamu.edu (Tzu-Chien Hung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: ++++The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, R.O.C.
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:12:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <9204102206.AA17224@cory.Berkeley.EDU+ thuang@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
+DRAM is one of the few product developed under joint venture with US firms.
+How much technology is transfered is questionable.  Actually, the success
+in DRAM is not a news, it goes back at least two years ago.  Electronic
+industry, in general, aside from its technology, is quite labor intensive.
+Most cost in a IC device lies in the labor of assembly.  Once the design is
+out, copier can easily reverse engineer the product.  Nevertheless, Taiwan
+depents on foreign parts and machines.  In short, being the third shows the
+lack of original engineering capability, and if Taiwan can only do most thing
+the third with a lot of foreign elements, that means Taiwan has heavy
+dependency on foreign technology.
+
+Improvement comes from the understanding of one's own weakness.
+
+Look beyond superficial news reports.
+
+Tze-yau Huang
+?

How much do you know about IC industry?
Are you EE major?
Have you been to a IC factory?
How much do you know about 'cleaan room'?
Make sure know the above questions before you post this kind of article.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:7282 soc.culture.china:12644
From: chchang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Chun-Shi Chang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Taiwan, Republic of China indeed.
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:10:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr10.201023.2220
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>The government of Taiwan Province is the PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA.
>The government of Taiwan Province is the PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA.
 and so on.....
>The government of Taiwan Province is the PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA.

(1) Hysterical, isn't he?
(2) By blinding his eyes with slogans, it seems that
    he is indeed an Ar1 Q. I feel sorry for him. :-(
-Chunshi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: aamir@IASTATE.EDU (Mohammad Asif)
Subject: Re: An example (was: Re: ++++The Six-Year.....)
Reply-To: aamir@IASTATE.EDU (Mohammad Asif)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:31:05 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: hsu-gene@CS.YALE.EDU (Gene Hsu)
Subject: Survey (MNCs in Taiwan)
Organization: Yale University, New Haven, CT 06520-2400
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:07:51 GMT

My name is Gene Hsu and I am writing a fifteen page paper on multinational
corporations and Taiwan.  After reading works by various authors (Denis Simon,
Shirley Kuo, Chi Schive, Thomas Gold, Walter Galenson, etc.), I would like
to get an idea of the different opinions people have of the importance of
multinational corporations in the economic development of Taiwan.


Multinational Corporations and Government Policy.
  How important is either factor in the development of the economy?
  Do you know of other factors?

What are the most important effects of an MNC's investment in Taiwan?
  Industrialization and employment.
  Global marketing organizations.
  Technology transfer.

Has there been a shift in government policy in attracting foreign investment?
(Does the government want to attract a different type of company than the
 manufacturing firms of the 1960s?)

What types of MNC's are good for long-term economic development of Taiwan?

What impact has the Hsinchu Science Park had on the economy of Taiwan?
(Has it? Will it?  I have relatively little information on this question)

Any answers and/or opinions will be greatly appreciated.
(My main interest in the topic is the evolution of MNCs from the 1960s to the
 present and how those MNCs import their respective technologies, i.e.
 technology transfer.)

Please include your name (or anonymous) and profession (and place) so I can
credit your opinions to you.


Thanks in advance.
  Gene Hsu

BTW: I only occasionally read this newsgroup.
hsu-gene@minerva.cis.yale.edu
gene_hsu@yccatsmtp.ycc.yale.edu
From: chang@edison.seas.ucla.edu (Fengteng Chang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Why did Huang Shun Xin defect to China?
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:33:42 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <6APR199214342575@mars.lerc.nasa.gov> ioguo@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (OA Guo) writes:
>>This is new to me.  Huang Shun Xing is Huang Xin Jie's brother?  
>>Would somebody post a verification on that?
>	NO.  That is definitely incorrect.  Huang, Xin-Jie has a brother in
>	mainland China, I believe his name is Huang, Siao-Chuan (or similar).
>	This Huang Shun-Xing is from Chang-Hwa and was one time the county
>	government of Tai-Dong.  He went to China for some unclear reason.
>	I believe he was trying to find the "future" for Taiwan.  He was
>	selected as one of the representatives of Taiwan.  (Chang, Chun-Nan
>	is also one of the Taiwan representatives).  A few years ago. he 
>	became frustrated about the political environment of China and 
>	requested to return to Taiwan and was rejected by CCP.

Several decades ago, a Taiwanese heroine Hsieh4_Hsueh3-Hong2 had similar
experience in China. She tried to find the future of Taiwan in CCP.
She was attacked for rightist, TIer,... because she spoke out for
Taiwanese and then died tragically( see Hsieh4-Hsueh3-Hong2 Pin2-Juan4
by Chen2-Fang1-Min2(a Taiwanese historian, writer and poet)).
Throughout Taiwanese history, Taiwanese tried so hard to master their own
fate. However, many poor Taiwanese still hope they can get help from
the outsiders. Historical tragedy repeat itself again and again.


Fengteng
From: ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Control?! (The Six-Year...)
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:13:20 -0600
Distribution: na
Organization: Muskingum College

>>In article <1992Apr15.215629.9888@sbcs.sunysb.edu> hsiang@sbhsiang.cs.sunysb.edu (J. Hsiang) writes:
>>>
>>>Since Ms. lko no longer has the convenient excuse such as "still in school",
>>>I don't see anything wrong with challenging her to put her money where her
>>>mouth is.

	** I have seen Iko's stuff for a while. How come
	   I never feel Iko is a female? 

	   This is one disadvantage (?) of using a confusing name.
	   If I think Iko is a female, some of my followups toward
	   "her" would be quite different (ooops, how phony I am).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: yfjchen@violet.waterloo.edu (Yu-Fang Jaclyn Chen)
Subject: Re: ChineseTalk on PostScript Level II Printer?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:19:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.170017.751@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang) writes:
> 
>>>>   **** Om Ma-Ni Pe-Me Hung **** | "All the world's phenomena and ideas
>>>>   ==============================|  Are unreal, like a dream
>>>>       Charles Wei-Ting Tang     |  Like magic, and like a reflected image."
>>>>    cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu  |  -- The Diamond Sutra

        Ha!  You must be a Buddhist.  Well, counld't help loving the above
  quote from the Diamond Sutra.  Actually what got my attention is not your
  posting, but "Om Ma-Ni Pe-Me Hung".  Yes!!  Om Ma-Ni Pe-Me Hung.

        I'm sorry to post somthing that is irrelevant to your subject.   
  Hope you don't mind..   I just can't resist to let such a good quote
  pass by......    Oh, thanks for posting it there.
                                                           J.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: chang@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov (Chau-Lyan Chang)
Subject: Re: ++++The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, R.O.C.
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA, USA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:15:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.182557.14721@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
>
>It's kind of improvement, but fundamentally, these industries are all
>low-tech labor intensive ones.  The capital is expensive in for most
>enterprises in Taiwan due to the conservative bank policies.  Therefore,
>R&D is really low.  Taiwan is still essentially an assembly island
>importing parts, license, and export under OEM contracts.  Taiwan's
>economy is still a dependent economy with technology dependency, market
>dependency, parts dependency, low-wage dependency, etc.  This is one
>topic of Taiwan independence that we usually do not see.
>
   To the best of my knowledge, the ways around this problem as conceivable
   by Taiwanese businessman are :

    1. From OEM -> ODM -> OBM
       This sounds pretty feasible. However, many enterprises took 
       this route the past few years or so all lost money, e.g. Hong-Chi
       (Acer), Kennex & Arch, just to name a few. Although, a too ambitious
       expanding plan was the main cause of the failure of these companies,
       the global reccess of the economy of US (therefore wrong timing)
       and insufficient capital (partly due to the crash of Taiwan stock
       market) were very influential too. I personally believe this is a 
       very promising route for many companies when the economy picks up again.
       For small to mid businesses which don't have capability to collect
       capital to help design and development of their own brands, the
       government should open up a easier way for them to get the low-interest
       loan.

     2. Swith to high-tech products manufacturing :
        For example, aerospace industry, manufacturing parts for high end
        products. The cost for manufacturing these products in Taiwan will 
        still be faily
        low compared to western countries and Japan. This relies heavily
        on the R&D part which most companies cannot afford. However, 
        government should be able to do R&D and then transfer technology
        to private industries.  The success of this route lies on 
        long-term planning from the government.

      3. Move all "sun-set" industries to southeastern Asia or China.
         Many companies (especially thoese doing traditional manufacturing)
         have done this. But it's still very risky to invest in mainland.
         One important side effect of investing in mainland is that it will
         increase the dependency on the China government. This dependency
         might one day become the bargaining power of CCP on the political 
         table. A treaty between Taiwan and Mainland can help the 
         security of Taiwanese investment, althogh this is not feasible
         now.
         

Newsgroups: isu.soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.taiwan
From: wwang@iastate.edu (Wen-Ping Wang)
Subject: TopofTaiwan 041392
Keywords: News
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:37:00 GMT

******** The Independence Weekly Post Apr. 3rd ed. *******

Politics --
  Mar. 23rd -- The Legislative Yuan has passed the bill on the
immigration law for the mainlander who has Taiwanese spouse. If the marriage
is lasting over two years, and have any children, then his/her spouse
from  mainland will be eligible to stay in Taiwan permanently.

  Mar. 25th -- The KMT secretary general James Song has proposed a
clause to put in the amending Constitution saying that, 'The way to
elect President and Vice President can be decided before 1995'. That
means the KMT will in no hurry to make the decision during this General
Assembly meeting. 1996 is the year supposed to elect new president.

  Mar. 26th -- The DPP committee for 'Direct President Election' has
decided to hold a large scale demonstration on Apr. 19th to push for
the DPE.

Economics--
 Mar. 27th -- The Legislator Pon, Pai-hsien has raised concerns for the
huge deficit planned in government's 1993 annual budget. The 1993
planned budget deficit will reach 18 billion( US ). According to the
budget report, the defense budget constitutes 24% of total budget
which is still the number one government spending item.

Culture--
 Mar. 23rd -- The Tsing-Hua University starting next semester will begin
to accept new student with hearing disability. Every department is
required to take one such special student. Although the 'equal right'
bill for handicapp has been passed for years, many discriminations
still exist among campus toward the handicapped students.

Social--
   -- The YMCA has positioned itself as an anti-Nuke group. In their
official statement as 'the declaration of YMCA against the building of
new No 4 nuclear plant', it has asked the government to listen to different
voices. Also, the building of any new plant should be decided by majority of
Taiwanese people.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Subject: Gin Jong fans' chellenge!! (was Re: The Six-Year National ...)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:50:27 GMT

In article <13891@star.cs.vu.nl> mvdvalk@cs.vu.nl (Valk v/d M) writes:
>Dear, dear netters. Please note the following: S. Horne is a complete and utter
>sod! DO NOT PAY ATTENTION TO HIS IGNORANT REMARKS. IT IS A COMPLETE AND UTTER
>WASTE OF TIME !!!!
>
>All he wants to achieve is you guys fighting over nothing.


	Just a few weeks ago, I made a comment about Gin Jong's novel;
	particularly, I find it annoying to read many roles put into
	his novel that are greatly 'irrelevant'. After seeing S. Horne's
	performances, I have changed my mind a bit: there is indeed people
	like Gin Jong had described in his novel :-( They may be annoying
	and irrelevent but they exist!!!

	Now, Gin Jong fans, there is a challenge: which role in his novels
	best describe S. Horne?

	In addition, many roles in Gin Jong's novels have been projected
	to many politicans in recent history. Are there any one who want
	to do this for any well-known people today? To have more fun out
	of this, don't restrict yourselves to Chinese/Taiwanese (e.g, is
	there any role similar to Edward Kennedy?).

Yung-Kao Hsu
From: ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:46:47 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Apr15.024334.25961@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, shihtsun@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Shih-tsun Alex Chou) writes:
> 	Only a few observations. It's quite interesting that those 
> old-high-school-time arguements are brought up again more than ten 
> years after high school graduation.
> 
> Alex Chou


	** It would take about that amount time to make one know
	   what to argue about.
From: hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: NON-POLITICAL Gin1 Young's novels
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:34:02 GMT
Reply-To: hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Apr8.174355.23766@watserv1.waterloo.edu>:
>>>>Which dynasty was 'Shiou4 Our4 Jiang1 Hoo2(lake)' in ?
>>>>Gin Young himself said this novel does not belong to any dynasty.

So, take his word.  It's a fiction.  However some names familar to readers
are used to make the novel more interesting and realistic.

>	I think Shiao4-Au4-Jiang1-Hu2 happened in Ming Dynasty. The reason
>	is the following:
>
>	1. Ling4 knocked down a general and weared the general's costume
>	which is a Ming general's costume.

 You cann't judge from the costume.  Some filmmakers probably have only three
 sets of custumes--for Ching, non-Ching, and Min2-Quo2 (Replic).

harry/kb2lha
From: shihtsun@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Shih-tsun Alex Chou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:25:49 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <92105.114406U53298@uicvm.uic.edu> Sandy Yeh <U53298@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In my opinion, Taipei First Girl's High is *THE* best high school in Taiwan.
>I don't think we should be humble in this matter. :-)

Haaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!.....(three minutes of laughing, sorry, I couldn't
resist).

In my opinion, Taipei First Girl's High is *THE* most famous high school
for producing "study machines".

Alex Chou, H480, HSNU
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:7174 soc.culture.china:12396
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Independence or Secession
Date: 26 Mar 92 10:36:05 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Mar23.214306.27404@zip.eecs.umich.edu> cyc@z.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes:
>Didn't the international law said clearly about Taiwan that Taiwan
>belongs to ROC ? 

Depends on who you ask.  The PRC currently claims that the ROC is an
illegitimate government and that it inherited the rights to Taiwan.
Naturally, the ROC and TIers disagree.  If you try to look at what
impartial third-parties think, you'll find that they try and stay out
of the argument as much as they can.

Bascially, international law is almost useless in talking about
Taiwan.  The major powers have intentionally made the legal situation
of Taiwan as unclear as they possibly can.  That's way, they don't
commit themselves to anything.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com
Subject: Re: Most Ridiculous ? (Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C")
Keywords: No 
Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:48:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.005415.17863@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>   Only presenting some words like above is not necessarily persuasive .
>   The "joke" can be understood after you answer me the following questions :
>
>  1. How many professors and engineerers had moved to Taiwan at the time ? How many
>universities were built after that ? How many excellent intellectuals left for
>Taiwan ?   


   You tell us. Give us names. You are the first person who mentions these question. 


>  2. Do you think Taiwan had better basis to develope so fast ? ( In resourses and 
>geography , as well as background ) 
 
                                      
   How much do you know about Taiwan?  


>  3. How much of the gold reserve was transfered to Taiwan through warships ? 
>( I have werstern resources in hand , but I hope you can look for it by yourself 
>for more materials .)   


   I cannot deny there were those gold nuggets, I cannot prove it either. However,
based on the past of the KMT and its mentality, I doubt it has ever used those
gold nuggets to build Taiwan.


>
>PS : Give me explainations , not conclusions only .  Not all the conclusios come
>that easily . 


   Give me facts, but not conclusions. No conculusions can come from propaganda. 


>
>PS+ : You can mention the economic policy of Taiwan in late 1960s and 1970s . But
>if had not been for the accumulation of the precious " resources" , is it possible
>that Taiwan develop so fast ?  

      
   This is a classical example of people can connect un-related or loosely related
facts and ridiculous conclusions. 


>
>PS++ : Please consider opposite opinions seriously , otherwise we can all be "media
>men".

    We do, but you are not right. 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:7232 soc.culture.china:12523
From: slqh8@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:39:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr8.173901.54310
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr8.182231.26073@cs.yale.edu>, horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU 
> <
> <Many years ago, there was a writer named Lu3 Hsun4.  He construced a funny
> <guy named Ar1 Q.  Ar1 Q was an optimistic man.  People insulted him, beated
> <him.  But he didn't care because he thought he replied them in the mind and
> <enjoied it.  He was frustrated by the dramatic progressing world.  But he
> <didn't care because he just simply blinded his eye by hand.
> <It's a funny 
> 
> That's all you got out of the story?!  
> 
> 
> 					--Scott
>
>>There are many way to disappear economic maracle in Taiwan.  From above 
>>story, I learn, the simplest way is that blind my eye by hand.
>>Hmmm, good idea!
>
>
>>--Chao-hsing Lee
******************************************************************************

It's funny because the stroy come again.


--Chao-hsing Lee