Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: Bashers
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:46:02 GMT
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In article <1992Sep15.014627.286@fid.morgan.com>, sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
> In article <1992Sep14.185256.26055@tfs.com> ecsd@tfs.com
> (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes:
> 
>>maybe when women are earning $1.00 to men's $1.00,
> 
> The figures I've seen indicate that, when education and experience are
> equal, women earn between $0.975 and $1.01 for every $1.00 men earn,
> depending on the study.
 
  You forgot the studies which show that the average "full time" working
woman works fewer hours per week than the average "full time" working man.

  You also forgot that studies which puport to "prove" pay disparity classify
men who work two jobs (as many do to meet child support demands or to
pay for their kids college) as a single full time male earner, in order
to skew the results.

  You also forget (easy to do in a gender-neutral high tech environment)
that in many jobs, pay = productivity, and in areas such as manufacturing,
construction, and shipping, that's directly related to physical strength.
And in THAT context, woman don't perform an equal amount of work to men.
If a man and a woman make ten trips each from warehouse to truck, and he
carries 10% more weight each time, he should be entitled to 10% more pay.


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|  Michael Rivero        rivero@dev8j.mdcbbs.com     "A Human's Human!"  |
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|   This seems like a good place to relate a story which illustrates the |
|   extent to which certain feminists have tried to downplay the         |
|   difference in physical strength. A couple months ago, I was up at a  |
|   local gun range lining up the sights on ol' "Jeremiah". At the next  |
|   table was a pair of ladies. One of them was your basic polite novice |
|   shooter. The other was out to impress the first one, blazing away at |
|   the paper targets with a .22 semi-auto rifle and making cracks about |
|   being "Rambolina". After a while my muzzle loader attracted her      |
|   attention (along with the fact that I am 40 whereas they were much   |
|   younger) culminating with the comment that my rifle was,"just like a |
|   man; good for only one shot". My response at that point was that one |
|   shot was probably more than she could handle. Her response," I can   |
|   handle anything!'.  Never one to protect a human from their own folly|
|   I handed ol' Jeremiah to her and said,"Be my guest".                 |
|                                                                        |
|     Now then, a small word of explanation. "Jeremiah" is named for the |
|   Robert Redford character in the movie,"Jeremiah Johnson". The rifle  |
|   is a copy of an 1870's Hawkin rifle, almost identical to the one     |
|   Redford finds frozen in the hands of a dead man halfway through the  |
|   film. Despite it's primitive operation and ancient look, this is not |
|   a toy gun, a target rifle, or a "plinking" gun. It is a weapon       |
|   designed and built by me to knock down and kill large dangerous      |
|   predators such as Grizzly Bear, Mountain Lion, and Divorce Lawyers.  |
|   The load I shoot fires a 375 grain .50 cal slug at just under Mach 2 |
|   yeilding 1800 foot pounds of force. For you non gunner's that        |
|   translates as "it kicks like a Fothermucker!"                        |
|                                                                        |
|    Anyway, thinking ahead, I stood to the rear and slightly to one side|
|   as this woman pulled the trigger. As she went flying past me, I      |
|   reached out with my strong male hands...... and saved the rifle!     |
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