HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: do we really want comp.database.xbase ?
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 19:41:44 GMT

ifenton@crc.ac.uk (I. Fenton) writes:

>i am obviously in a minority of one here, but...

>the amount of traffic in this group is not big.  i subscribe to a number of 
>other groups, many with a lot more postings than this one.  i like looking
>at questions such as 'i got a 500k record database, which product should
>i use'.

Iain: Just a note to point out that you are not a minority of one and
the "xbase" newsgroups phenomenon is a recurrent one.  I put the cycle at
about once every four months.  The "paradox" newsgroup has a longer cycle
of about once every six months.

I think both can be demonstrated to coincide with a rush of new students
at universities.

Figure on 10 days of "yeah that would be neat" and an occasional message
such as yours pointing out that total traffic is on average 25-30 messages
per day combining all database products.  Splitting that into two or three
newsgroups which will encourage cross-posting is relatively silly but I've
grown weary pointing it out.

The important point is this is not likely to happen if history is any
guide.

tom

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: welling@let.rug.nl (George Welling)
Subject: Re: dBase programming question
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:56:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.185640.9973@ac.dal.ca> guruman@ac.dal.ca writes:
>
>       I'm looking for some help on a dbase program I'm writing.
>It's a silly problem, nevertheless, I can't get by it.  I need to know how
>to assign inputted text to a text variable
>i.e.  input "employee name? " to name
>(oh sorry, this` is for dBase III+)
>I presume I have to define the variable "name" as a character variable,
>but my little reference book seems to have overlooked variable definitions.
>Any suggestions on the proper path to follow?
>
>	Thanks in advance.
>
>	Rob Scott.
>	guruman@ac.dal.ca
>	Halifax Nova Scotia
>
well suppose the field in the database is called CNAME and the database DATBAS

USE datbas
* create the variable
mName = SPACE(LEN(DATBAS->cname))
@ 10,10 SAY "Input name " GET mName
READ

That's all.
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    \  o o o o o o o o  |     \  o o o o o o o o  |      \  o o o o o o o o  |
     \                 /       \                 /        \                 /
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     George M. Welling - dep.Alfa-Informatica HCI - University of Groningen
     phone : +31 50 63 54 74  | fax : +31 50 63 49 00  | welling@let.rug.nl
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From: ron@bert.cs.byu.edu (Ron Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Where are the Borland Tech-Faxes?
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:59:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BYU Computer Science

A few weeks ago (or was it days?) someone posted mentioning that
the tech faxes that Borland sends out were available on one of the
archive sites, and I thought that I would never need them so I 
ignored the message.  You guessed it-- I need them now.  If you
know where they are would you please either post the location or 
mail it to ron@bert.cs.byu.edu.  I've tried archie, but I can't 
even remember what the file name was.

Thanks a lot.
--
Ron Snyder <ron@bert.cs.byu.edu>   <snyderrj@coned1.byu.edu>
****************************************************************
From: ifenton@crc.ac.uk (I. Fenton)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: do we really want comp.database.xbase ?
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:26:36 GMT
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre

i am obviously in a minority of one here, but...

the amount of traffic in this group is not big.  i subscribe to a number of 
other groups, many with a lot more postings than this one.  i like looking
at questions such as 'i got a 500k record database, which product should
i use'.  it gets both xbase and paradox and sybase and oracle etc etc people
saying how their products would relate/perform.  also databases are becoming
more and more cross-platform, so i dont see the need for comp.db.dos,
comp.db.mac, comp.db.other-system.  if there is a technical question about
a system i dont use i just skip it - how much time does it take for christ's
sake ?  i use the 'rn' reader and i can see all headers immediately, so what
is the problem with you guys ?

for the record, i am a clipper programmer, a happy one, writing multi-user
apps on a novell network, and i am interested in other databases that
could compete, e.g. oracle, ingres, sybase, fox etc etc.

iain

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Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: clifford@fraser.sfu.ca (Clifford Earl Wiebe)
Subject: OO DBMS experiences/recommendations
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:37:49 GMT


Does anyone have any recommendations/experiences/horror stories 
about any of the object oriented databases that work with C++?
In particular, I'd like to know if anyone has had any experience with
the ONTOS or Object Store database products.  If so, what were your
thoughts on the DB's a) reliability, b) robustness, c) ease of use,
and d) any other comments you might have.

Is there a news group which discusses OO dbms?

Thanks,


Cliff


Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: Re: Memo of the month <hail ibm>
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:44:45 GMT

In article 726267531@ortta.umn.edu, durai@ortta.umn.edu (Durai Venkatasubramanian) writes:
>The following text is supposed to have been appeared in the "washington 
>monthly", jan-feb 91 issue, page #24.  
>
>This is an actual alert to IBM field engineers that went out to all IBM 
>field offices.  The person who wrote this seems to have been very serious.  
>Most of us think it is funny.
>
>Abstract: Mouse balls available as FRU  (field replacement unit)
>
>Mouse balls are now available as FRU.  Therefore, if a mouse fails to 
>operate or should it perform erratically, it may need a ball replacement.  
>Because of the delicate nature of this procedure, replacement of mouse balls 
>should only be attempted by properly trained personnel.
>
>Before proceeding, determine the type of mouse balls by examining the 
>underside of the mouse.  Domestic balls will be larger and harder than 
>foreign balls.  Ball removal procedures differ depending upon the 
>manufacturer of the mouse.  Foreign balls can be replaced using the pop-off 
>method.  Domestic balls are replaced using the twist-off method.  Mouse 
>balls are not usually static sensitive.  However, excessive handling can 
>result in sudden discharge.  Upon completion of ball replacement, the mouse 
>may be used immediately.
>
>It is recommended that each replacer have a pair of spare balls for 
>maintaining optimum customer satisfaction, and that any customer missing his 
>balls should suspect local personnel of removing these necessary items.
>
>To reorder, specify one of the following:
>P/N 33F8462 - domestic mouse balls
>P/N 33F8461 - foreign mouse balls
>
>

That is funny. Give me more

TU
From: someday@hardy.u.washington.edu (Scott Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Revelation: PUSH.SESSION/POP.SESSION
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:13:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ifei7INN8dm
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article <16B4EC267.EXTMO4H@mizzou1.missouri.edu> EXTMO4H@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Missouri 4-H Youth Development Programs) writes:

>I have AREV 3.0x.  Where can I find/get the System Subroutines book?
> 
>Curtis Bohl, Computer Programmer/Analyst
>Missouri 4-H Youth Development Programs
>EXT1120A@mizzou1.missouri.edu

Call Revelation Technologies Customer Service at 1-800-262-4747.

-Scott
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: durai@ortta.umn.edu (Durai Venkatasubramanian)
Subject: nanda's Q: dynamic searches in Foxpro
Organization: U of Mn
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:40:39 GMT

Reply to <nanda@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> posting dt 11 Jan 93
Subject: FOXPRO:How to do dynamic search?

I can comment on the technique, though I have never tried it.  Sherri Bruhn 
demonstrated similar techniques in the recent foxpro developers conference.  
You have to trap each key and join them in an index, between a specified 
time interval (as specified in the _dblclick variable, normally).  

However, I found an *excellent* dynamic search utility in compuserve.  You 
have to pay $125, if you want the source code.  You are however, free to use 
the compile program, as part of your application.  You can find it in 
compuserve, foxforum, foxpro library.  Name of the file: gofer2.zip

If you do not have access to compuserve, send me an email.


next question:-
Does this group have a list server that I can subscribe to?

Send a message to 
   coneill@polarbear.rahul.net (Chris O'Neill)

  <..Chris was planning to set up a discussion list..>
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: jmorrill@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John M Morrill)
Subject: Re: Memo of the month <hail ibm>
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:52:55 GMT


I *strongly* suspect this memo is a hoax.
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Strange problems call for strange solutions.
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: dBase programming question
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 08:12:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.185640.9973@ac.dal.ca> guruman@ac.dal.ca writes:

>       I'm looking for some help on a dbase program I'm writing.
>It's a silly problem, nevertheless, I can't get by it.  I need to know how
>to assign inputted text to a text variable
>i.e.  input "employee name? " to name
>(oh sorry, this` is for dBase III+)
>I presume I have to define the variable "name" as a character variable,
>but my little reference book seems to have overlooked variable definitions.
>Any suggestions on the proper path to follow?

I'm surprised that the manuals wouldn't have an example.  Aren't there
samples that come with the original diskettes ?

As I recall there are two huge manuals one for interactive use and one
for programming which one are you looking at ?

tom
From: someday@hardy.u.washington.edu (Scott Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Revelation: PUSH.SESSION/POP.SESSION
Date: 7 Jan 1993 07:21:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: revelation

In article <1993Jan6.200709.3952@massey.ac.nz> D.M.Todd@massey.ac.nz (D.M. Todd) writes:
>Thanks for the help with push.session/pop.session.  What is the
>"system subroutines manual"?  Is that part of the developers package?
>I've just skimmed all the documentation we received here with Arev
>3.0, and I don't see any mention of it.
>
>David

The "sys subs" book is available "at extra cost", as they say.  It
contains about 50 routines that are not doc'd in the regular manuals.
I think it costs (sit down!) about $80.

BTW, I mentioned in my last post that AREV 3.02 available.  BZZZZT!!!
Wrong!!  It's coming Real Soon Now but the current release level is
3.01.  Sorry if that messed anybody up.

-Scott Johnson
 not a spokesman for,
 and obviously if I was I wouldn't be a very good one, at
 Revelation Technologies, Inc.
From: guruman@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: dBase programming question
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:56:40 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


       I'm looking for some help on a dbase program I'm writing.
It's a silly problem, nevertheless, I can't get by it.  I need to know how
to assign inputted text to a text variable
i.e.  input "employee name? " to name
(oh sorry, this` is for dBase III+)
I presume I have to define the variable "name" as a character variable,
but my little reference book seems to have overlooked variable definitions.
Any suggestions on the proper path to follow?

	Thanks in advance.

	Rob Scott.
	guruman@ac.dal.ca
	Halifax Nova Scotia

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: dmmatt@bigez (Mike Mattix)
Subject: Re: Where are the Borland Tech-Faxes?
Organization: Monsanto Agricultural Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:11:23 GMT

In article <'s#@byu.edu>, ron@bert.cs.byu.edu (Ron Snyder) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.081054.1@bigez> dmmatt@bigez (Mike Mattix) writes:
>    In article <4r#@byu.edu>, I (Ron Snyder) wrote:
>    [message asking for electronic form of Borland's tech-faxes deleted]
> 
>    Mike suggested:
>    Call 1-800-822-4264.
> 
> I just called that number, it's a place called Hanger Type (or something
> like that, I didn't ask her to spell it :)) and the receptionist had no
> idea what I was talking about.  (BTW, the number for their (Borland's) 
> tech-fax dispenser is 1-800-822-4269.)  
> 
> Does anybody know where the tech-faxes are available in electronic form
> so that I can ftp them?

Sorry Ron  I could not read my own handwriting..

-- 
Mike Mattix
Agricultural Group of Monsanto
P.O. Box 174
Luling, LA 70070
INTERNET Address: dmmatt@bigez.monsanto.com
From: dtb@otto (David Bath)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Move XBASE compats to own newsgroup
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:30:34 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Summary: Move dbase, fox etc stuff to own group
Keywords: xbase dbase

I agree with some other netters.
	fox, clipper, dbase, etc .... all those "xbase" compatibles
	using "dbase" files deserve their own newsgroup.

	maybe paradox stuff should have theirs as well.

	comp.databases should be a general discussion area, with
	most of the product specific stuff living in their own
	newsgroups, as comp.databases.(oracle|ingre|sybase) do.

Who wants to do this ?


David T. Bath	Email:dtb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au	Phone:03-3477511
Global Technology Corporation, 179 Grattan St, CARLTON, VIC, 3153, AUSTRALIA
"Failure to emulate is the best revenge" - Marcus Aurelius
-- 
David T. Bath	Email:dtb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au	Phone:03-3477511
Global Technology Corporation, 179 Grattan St, CARLTON, VIC, 3153, AUSTRALIA
"Failure to emulate is the best revenge" - Marcus Aurelius
From: pike@belarus.minsk.by (Konstantin Shchuka (Pike))
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: FoxPro 2.0 question...
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:57:01 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: Supreme Council of the Republic of Bielarus
Reply-To: pike@belarus.minsk.by

In <KJELL.93Jan5153526@bulldozer.hut.fi> Erik Vallow writes:
>   I'm new to Foxpro and I'm having trouble getting the answer to a question. I
>   was looking through some code generated by Foxapp, and noticed a reference to
>   something called 'juststem(<exp1>)' If it is what I think it is, it might be
>   useful in some of my other programs. However: "Where is it?!" It isn't a
>   keyword in Foxpro, from what I can tell. If it is a function or procedure, I
>   can't find the actual code.... I'm must be missing something *REAL* simple,
>   so put me outta my misery, please!
>
>   Thanks in advance....
>
>   erik@sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu
>

Actual code of juststem() you can find
in foxpro2\goodies\foxapp\prgs\appproc.prg
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From: alan@effluvia.den.mmc.com (Alan Popiel - 303/977-9998)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: Report Generators
Date: 7 Jan 1993 11:48:10 -0500
Organization: Mailing List Gateway
Distribution: world
Reply-To: alan@effluvia.den.mmc.com (Alan Popiel - 303/977-9998)
NNTP-Posting-Host: emory.mathcs.emory.edu
X-Informix-List-ID: <list.1757>

->From: rex@iqsc.COM (Rex Black)
->Subject: Re: Report Generators
->Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 16:00:46 GMT
->Reply-To: rex@iqsc.COM (Rex Black)
->Organization: IQ Software Corp.
->Sender: informix-list-owner@rmy.emory.edu
->To: informix-list@rmy.emory.edu
->
->Chris D Iacovelli writes:
->> I am looking for info on report generators for informix. Please post or
->>email me name and address for any vendors.
->
->Our product, Intelligent Query, runs against most flavors of Informix on
->virtually any platform you can name, Unix or DOS.  We have a GUI version
->in the works if you are using a Unix server to support DOS workstations.
->We also run against most popular Unix, VAX and DOS ISAM and SQL databases.
->For more info on our product, contact IQ Software Corp at:
->
->3295 River Exchange Driver #550
->Norcross, GA 30092
->Phone: (404) 446-8880
->Fax:   (404) 448-4088
->
->Tell 'em Rex sent ya.
->
->Thanks,
->Rex
->
Alan Popiel replies:

I've seen impressive demos of IQ.  It looks like a good product.

Other products I have heard about, but not seen in action, include:

1. Grafsman - produces graphs from DB data

Soft-tek International
1999 North Amidon, Suite 340
Wichita, Kansas 67203
Phone (316) 838-7200 / FAX (316) 838-3789

2. Natural Language 5.0 and Intelligent Connector - English query language, with 
user definable words

Natural Language Inc.
2910 Seventh Street
Berkeley, CA 94710
(510) 841-3500   (800) NLI-5858

Regards,
                   /     Alan Popiel     \
                  /   alan@den.mmc.com    \
                 <   Martin Marietta LSC   >
                  \   Denver, Colorado    /
                   \    303/977-9998     /
From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Re: CONSTRUCT/END CONSTRUCT within INPUT statement
Keywords: CONSTRUCT
Date: 9 Jan 93 03:54:54 GMT
Organization: The Island of Unwanted Toys

In article <jean.726402411@aim1> jean@aim1.aztec.co.za (Jean Ramsay) writes:
>According to the TOOLREL_4.1 document for i4GL an END CONSTRUCT statement
>is now required when using CONSTRUCT within an INPUT statement when using 
>version 4.1 of i4gl. (See lines 377,392)

I *think* that END CONSTRUCT is only required when you use ON KEY, BEFORE
FIELD, or AFTER FIELD between the CONSTRUCT and the END INPUT.  (Because:
the AFTER/BEFORE FIELD or ON KEY would be assumed to apply to the CONSTRUCT,
not the INPUT).

>A program containing this code, which works using release i4gl 4.0,
>fails to execute the INPUT BY NAME ...  WITHOUT DEFAULTS correctly (it 
>appears to ignore the WITHOUT DEFAULTS, blanking out all fields) when run 
>without the END CONSTRUCT statement on i4gl 4.1. 

Whoa.  Is this INPUT, or INPUT ARRAY?  If INPUT ARRAY, this is probably Bug
#10522 et al, and is unrelated to the CONSTRUCT syntax issue.  If you are
using 4.10.UC1 or .UD1, you will definitely see this bug.  Otherwise, check
the release/ directory for bugfixes included in the port.

>However it gives a generic
>syntax error at compile time when the END CONSTRUCT is added.  

This shouldn't happen.  Are you sure you are compiling with the 4.1 compiler?

>Has anybody had this problem with i4gl 4.1? I am aware of the supposed
>restriction disallowing a CONSTRUCT within an INPUT statement, but the
>program did not require the CONSTRUCT to be within another function
>under version 4.0. Any help would be appreciated. 
>-- 
>Jean Ramsay             jean%aim1.aztec.co.za@ucthpx.uct.ac.za
>Aztec Information Management, Cape Town, South Africa

The only danger is the ambiguity I discussed above.  Otherwise, pre-4.1 code
is forward-compatible without changes.

--
Alan Denney      aland@informix.com      {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland

"For they looked in the future, and what did they see
 They saw an iron road running from the sea to the sea."  -- Gordon Lightfoot
From: lad@remus.rutgers.edu (Kamlesh)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.informix
Subject: Informix ON-LINE archiving
Keywords: Automatic or manual only
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:30:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	On Informix ON-LINE, is it posssible to automatically archive 
databases.  Currently, you have to manually run tb-monitor and create
an archive.  Is there any way to write a macro or a cron to
automatically backup the database at a certain time?


Can anyone suggest any utilities to provide automatic archiving?

Thanks,


Kamlesh
lad@remus.rutgers.edu