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From: zhao@nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Subject: which modems work for SUN?
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:09:30 GMT

I called AT&T to order a DATAPORT 14.4 modems and was tolled that it
would not work for unix workstations like SUN, DEC, ..., but just for
PCs which the modem was designed for. It seems very strange to me. Do
other high speed modems such as ZyXEL, PPI, ... work for workstations
or not? 

Regards,

ZiZi
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sun 4/380 memory
Keywords: simms sun4
Date: 19 Jan 93 22:44:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>I have obtained a 4/300 cpu board that I might be buying. The cpu has no memory,
>and I need to get some memory to test it. What kind does it use?

Normal 9-bit simms, 80ns or faster.

>Also, using 4 meg simms, it appears to hold 32 meg. Do I have to populate it
>all?

There are two banks of four; you have to fill a bank at a time.  The board
came from the factory strapped for 1M simms -- there's a labeled but
undocumented jumper somewhere on the board that you can set to use 4M simms.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: elling@eng.auburn.edu (Richard Elling)
Subject: Re: WANTED: TSUNAMI board
Reply-To: elling@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:01:55 GMT

In article 1js36rINNk2s@plts.uucp, tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>In <1993Jan19.003446.16130@newstand.syr.edu> koh@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Jean Koh) writes:
>>Could I get only a board? I mean I don't need whole workstation
>>like SPARCclassic or LX.
>>I just need a board.
>
>I don't think anyone is making stand-alone boards for sale.

Someone ought to seize the opportunity.  There are many sites with a
large collection of old SS-1, SS-1+, SLCs, and IPCs that just might be
very interested in a 100 or so motherboard upgrades to a MicroSPARC...
if the price is right (hint, hint :-)  Workstations Plus and a few other
board manufacturers are shipping SS-2 motherboard upgrades for old SS-1
class machines, but they are quite a bit more pricey than I figure a
MicroSPARC design should be.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: Swap Space Question
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:33:05 GMT

>But is it not true that:

>   virtual memory = swap space

>and that:

>   swap space must be >= physical memory

The kernel will warn you if swap space is < physical memory.  The consensus
seems to be that for SunOS 4.x you want swap space to be at least 2.5 meg
bigger than physical memory.

Since SysV machines tend to treat swap space as overflow instead of as backing
store, the 5.x virtual memory size may be ~ physmem+swap.

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From: Allyn@cup.portal.com (Allyn Mark Lai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Toshiba 3401 and SPARC IPX/2
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:09:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world


Has anybody successfully used a Toshiba 3401 CD-ROM with either a
SPARC IPX or a SPARC 2?  I just tried connecting one to an
IPX and it gives an "Unrecognized vendor Toshiba..." error
message.  It looks like I'll need some sort of driver, are 
any available?

Thanks!

allyn

Allyn@cup.portal.com
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From: Shawn_E_Switenky@engr.usask.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Anyone remember Sun SCSI shoeboxes with SMD drives?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:12:45 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi,

Does anyone remember a SUN shoebox that connected to a Sun via SCSI but
had a SMD disk inside along with a SMD to SCSI converter inside.  If anyone
does, what I'm looking for is the manufacturer and model number of the
SMD to SCSI converter.  I belive is was an Adaptec device, but I'm not
sure.  If anyone has one sitting around they would like to sell, I'm
interested in picking one up, or even just a manual.  If anyone knows of 
where I could buy one, please let me know.

Shawn Switenky
Shawn_E_Switenky@engr.usask.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Using non-TCP/IP ethernet
From: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (Jens Petersohn)
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:28:02 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

If you are refering to EtherTalk from Apple, you are out of luck since the
interface does nothing by itself, what you need is a packet driver and a
network stack to drive Ethertalk over the ethernet. Those are software modules
generally bound to the kernel. I am not aware of such software for EtherTalk,
but I know they exist for NetOS like DECnet.

Jens


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From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: SPARC printer consumables
Date: 21 Jan 1993 07:10:22 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.ubc.ca

bmh@terminus.ericsson.se (Bernard Hatt) writes:

]Someone recently asked whether SPARC printer consumables were available
]from sources other than Sun, (The message has expired here, so I don't have
]The parts are for a XEROX 3010.
I was told a 4030. I have had the fuser roller and the wick from the
4030, and they both fit and work. Is the 3010 the same as the 4030?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: lockwood@ipoint.vlsi.uiuc.edu (John Lockwood)
Subject: Degraded SS10 sbus performance ?
Summary: Sbus speed in SS10
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:44:28 GMT
Keywords: sun ss10 sbus

 
Has anyone benchmarked the SPARCstation 10 for i/o performance?
In particular, has anyone noticed _degraded_ performance on the SS10
over the SS2 or IPX for devices using the SBUS [non-DMA devices].
 


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From: robinson@jetsun.Eng.Sun.COM (David Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sun 4/380 memory
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:43:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: jetsun
Keywords: simms sun4

In article <1993Jan19.224444.17892@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
<>I have obtained a 4/300 cpu board that I might be buying. The cpu has no memory,
<>and I need to get some memory to test it. What kind does it use?
<
<Normal 9-bit simms, 80ns or faster.
<
<>Also, using 4 meg simms, it appears to hold 32 meg. Do I have to populate it
<>all?
<
<There are two banks of four; you have to fill a bank at a time.  The board
<came from the factory strapped for 1M simms -- there's a labeled but
<undocumented jumper somewhere on the board that you can set to use 4M simms.

Actually the banks are 8 simms each and must be populated 8 at a time,
so you get either 8M or 32M depending if you use 1M or 4M simms.

	-David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: vellani@aplexus.jhuapl.edu (Thomas Vellani)
Subject: GX and GX+ Video Specs
Keywords: GX video bandwidth
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:54:45 GMT

Hello:

	I need the video output specs for the Sun Sparc 10 GX & GX+ boards.
Specifically I need the Horizontal and vertical video BandWidths. I would
appreciate if someone could help me with this. I tried the local Sun
office without much luck. 

	Thanks in advance.

Tom Vellani
vellani@aplsun.jhuapl.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: jch+@cs.cmu.edu (Jonathan Hardwick)
Subject: Re: Sun3/50 at home : UPS, SPS, or line conditioner recommendations?
Summary: summary of responses
Keywords: sun3, power
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:18:55 GMT

Here's a summary of the responses I got to the following question:
>    1. What are the power requirements of my Sun and its monochrome
>       screen?  (I know how much the Quantum drive draws)  It came
>       without docs, so I'm in the dark here.  Under 250W?  450W?  600W?
>    2. How sensitive is the Sun power supply to fluctuations in the
>       supply?  I can remember an office glitch in which two IBM RT's
>       went castors-up whilst a Sun3/60 never even blinked.  Are Sun's
>       generally good in this respect?
>    3. Is the extra expense of a UPS/SPS worth it?  In other words, how
>       often *is* there a blackout which a line conditioner can't handle
>       but a UPS can?  
>    4. Does anyone have (dis)recommendations?  Tripplite line
>       conditioners score highly in Eric Raymond's 386-workstation FAQ.
>       From a quick look through catalogs, there are also Sola UPSs
>       out there.  Which other manufacturers should I be considering?
>       Ability to be interfaced to the system is a plus.

First, my thanks go to Jay Rouman, Andrew Burnette, Jeff Aldrich, Y.
Tsuji, Anthony Datri, Kevin Cosgrove, Scott Gordon and Peter Wargo for
their advice and experiences.

1.  As someone kindly pointed out to me, "look on the back of the
box!".  Whoops.  Anyway, there's a 4A 110V fuse back there, so it
shouldn't take more than 440 VA even at startup.  We have a
known-working datapoint of a Sun3/50 system running on a 450 VA SPS,
and drawing 1.8A when idle -- so a 400 VA SPS (which is cheaper)
should be ok, as long as you're not overloading the Sun with eg 8M of
RAM. 

2.  Sun power supplies are generally supposed to be good; they'll live
through power fluctuations that would crash other machines.  Note that
surges that the motherboard will live through are still bad for
monitors, so a line conditioner (or better) might be a good idea...

3.  There were two separate camps : "Suns are cheap and tough, so live
dangerously", vs "I've never used anything less than a UPS/SPS since x
happened", for various x :-)

4.  Tripp-Lite, American Power Corporation, and Best products were all
recommended by name.  It's easy to find mail-order houses selling
Tripp-Lite and APC stuff in any issue of eg Computer Shopper, and the
two companies seem to be competing on price and features (good news
for us!).  Best products are tougher to find, and seems more
expensive, but got good reviews. 

There was some interest in the responses, but not enough to warrant
posting them all here; I've e-mailed an edited copy to everyone who
requested them.  E-mail me if you're interested.

Once again, thanks!

Jonathan H.
From: cew6@po.CWRU.Edu (Carlin E. Wiegner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: ohio state rep for sun hardware....
Date: 28 Jan 1993 04:39:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


there use to be a guy on here from OSU working on a discount
program. is he still around?

also, I looked at the LX and it is great but if I can get 40%
off I might be willing to go up one step. What system is that?
the SS10? please email replies and any sun-god who is willing
to answer some questions please email me!
CW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: lundman@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (L Lundman)
Subject: Reading other formats on SUN's floppies.
Organization: Disorganised.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:11:35 GMT
Distribution: comp


Hmmm, I was wondering over the possibility of reading Amiga disks on the Sun
drives? I guess the hardware would allow me to do such a thing since I
basically need the raw data of a track, MFM decode it etc...

Is it like, no way?

Thanks for any reply, preferably email since I don't read this news group
normally.

Kef
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From: wbc@moosilauke.dartmouth.edu (Wayne Cripps)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Flyback for BW Monitor wanted
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:19:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: wbc@moosilauke.dartmouth.edu


 I need a flyback for my sun 3 monitor, part no 540-1062.  Where
can I get one?  (Apex has some for their own use only, and Computer
Component Source doesn't have any)

	Wayne
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: mmzz@elena.dei.unipd.it (Alberto Cammozzo)
Subject: NEC CDR35 Cd-rom on a sun3/60 ?
Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:42:29 GMT





	Is it possible to use a NEC CDR35 on a sun3/60 via SCSI interface?
	Someone told me that the SCSI interface  of the CDR is not so
	standard... 
	Can someone help me?

		Thank you !

		Alberto

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From: bmiller@Ceram.COM (Bill Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Has anyone used CERAM's TurboSwap board?
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:18:40 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Organization: Ceram Inc., Colorado Springs, CO.

(I attempted to post this earlier.  I'm not sure it got out as there
was a mail error returned.  So if it appears more than once - I'm
sorry for your having to delete it twice!)

I am an employee of CERAM, the manufacture of the TurboSwap product.
I thought it best that we clarify some points made in this SUMMARY so
that all interested readers would have a complete picture.  I hope this
doesn't come across as a sales pitch - just more complete (and of course
totally unbiased) information.
 
First off - Thanks to all participants.  The discussion
here helps to clear up some misconceptions about TurboSwap. 

Further Information: 

1.  TurboSwap is not intended to be a cheaper alternative to adding a
few memory SIMMs.  It is intended to give users who work with very large
in memory data sets a way to run on machines that won't hold enough memory.
It makes the most sense for in memory data set size requirements above 128M
on most machines - above 64M on some.  These are the break points where
further memory expansion is either impossible, more expensive than TurboSwap,
or creates system performance problems due to MMU design limitations.  
TurboSwap is not better/cheaper than adding memory in every case - but it
clearly is in some cases.
 
(If you don't know how large your in memory data set size is, run
pstat -T|grep swap , the numerator of the displayed fraction is the size
of your in memory data set at the moment you executed the commnad -
you can also mail to turbotool@ceram.com for a utility that will monitor
this for you) 
 
2.  TurboSwap will allow you to put up to 960MB fast swap on any SBus
machine.  Therefore, you might be able to use an IPX or an LX to run 
something that would have otherwise required an SS10 or 600MP to hold 
sufficient memory.  When you compare the cost of the hole package, TurboSwap 
starts to look realy cheap! And its fully expandable up to 960MB from any
starting point in the product line.
 
3.  TurboSwap might be a better long term value if you expect your memory
requirements to grow.  If you fill your machine up with SIMMs and then need 
more memory what will you do?
 
    A.  Throw out your SIMMs and buy higher density SIMMs? 
    B.  Run your app on a more expensive box that hold more memory?         
	C.  Suffer with swap disk performance? 

    If you add TurboSwap instead of SIMMs you guarantee that you'll have     
room to grow.

4.  The same TurboSwap cards work on SS1, SS1+, IPC, SS2, IPX, SS10, LC, LX
600MP, SC2000.  Almost all of these require different memory SIMMs - a costly
problem for transitions/upgrades. 
     
	If you want some straight forward - not sales type - answers about TurboSwap 
you can mail to turboinfo@ceram.com for auto reply of Q&A about the product.

Bill Miller
bmiller@ceram.com
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From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED: TSUNAMI board
Date: 23 Jan 1993 13:36:11 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp
Keywords: TSUNAMI, board-level

In <1993Jan19.003446.16130@newstand.syr.edu> koh@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Jean Koh) writes:

>I have one question about new sparc microprocessor and chip sets
>from TI and SUN (and Mentor).
>Could I get only a board? I mean I don't need whole workstation
>like SPARCclassic or LX.

>I just need a board.

I don't think anyone is making stand-alone boards for sale.  However,
Sun will sell you just the board for an LX or SPARCclassic if you can
get a hold of their "repairs parts" manual.  That's the manual that
lets you order a particular chip, board, screw, wire,
little-metal-flexy-thing, etc.  Ask your saleshorror for a copy.

I doubt TI will be shipping a board, they're in the chip biz from what
I understand.  Mentor did parts of the design, but isn't in the
business of making chips or board.

If you are looking to upgrade an old SPARC 2 or other Sun machine,
check out Sun's new press release about their upgrade policy.  They
will take trade-ins on many different machines and you save money by
re-using your monitor, harddrives, etc.

Tom

(Not speaking as the voice of Mentor Graphics, or Sun or TI. )

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: oci@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Chip Campbell)
Subject: Need advice on Xylogics 472 with Cipher tape drive
Summary:  Configuration doesn't work
Keywords: pertec tape
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:10:00 GMT

We've got a new-to-us Xylogics 472 tape controller that we think ought to
work with an older Cipher M890 tape drive.  The Cipher used to work on a
Unibus controller, and has what we assume is a Pertec interface.  It is in
fact branded Emulex at the front panel. The 472 is in an Aviv
Multibus-to-9U-VME adapter.  I have the book showing jumper settings for
the 472, but I don't know what might be "right", and there are lots of
jumpers on the Aviv adapter as well.  I'm trying to use the stock SunOS
4.1.1 xt driver, which I've configured with flags 0 'cause it's a
single-density drive.  The board is in slot 9 of a 4/280S, and I've removed
the 903 & 904 backplane jumpers. 

What happens is, at boot time I get:
	xtc0 at vme16d16 0xee60 vec 0x64
	xt0 at xtc0 slave 0
	xtc0: WARNING: 20 bit addresses

but any attempt to reference the drive (we tried dd and tar) fails with
"I/O error" and the drive unloads and goes offline. I can see that the
board is in fact jumpered for 20-bit addresses, but I don't know if this is
right.  The board supplier says that it last worked in a 4/260 as is. 

"mt status" produces:
	xt0: not online	[but the drive online light was lit]
	/dev/rmt12: no tape loaded or drive offline 
			[neither true - and why unit 12?]

Has anyone out there got a known-to-work 472 configuration at hand that
they could describe to me? Anyone know anything specific about the Cipher
890?  Any and all comments will be appreciated.

I will summarize responses.

Many thanks,

Chip Campbell
Sunnybrook Health Science Centre (University of Toronto)
syschip@srcl.sunnybrook.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: bern@Uni-Trier.DE (Jochen Bern)
Subject: Re: SunPC or Puzzle Systems?
Originator: bern@agrippina
Keywords: SunPC Puzzle Emulator
Organization: Theor. CS, FB IV / CS, Univ. of Trier, Germany (Internet TI.Uni-Trier.DE)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:44:19 GMT

In <DocKnow.728231122@socrates> DocKnow@socrates.cs.athabascau.ca (Yves Morin) writes:
>tinkess@cambridge.mitchell.com (Randall Tinkess) writes:
>>I have to make a choice between the SunPC emulator product or a 
>>similar product which is made by Puzzle Systems. I don't
>>know which is the better choice. The Sun product is 486-25MHz
>>and Puzzle offers the 486 at both 25 and 30MHz.

>>I know that clock speed on the co-processor card is only one of many
>>factors to consider but I don't have any empirical data to evaluate.

>>Does anyone have a recommendation about these products? 

>I do have a recommendation buy a PC clone.  Here we have both and neither is
>a viable solution since both are unstable and have various limitations.

>I must say that Sun PC is better and easier to configure.

Since you're speaking of PC *Emulators* vs. *standalone* PCs, how about a
Design which merges the Pros of both? I haven't installed it yet, but I've
got a "Coprocessor Board" from Puzzle called Synergy II. It is a SBus Card
(plus Software) containing a PC. The Software allows you to run the PC -
which *really* runs all by himself - AND to have various "Connections"
between both, especially Re-Use of the Sun's RAM, Filesystems, serial
Lines, Keyboard, Mouse, and Screen; The PC "sees" extended RAM, several
HD Drives, LPTs, a special Mouse Driver, and a SVGA Card. In Addition,
one serial and one parallel Port exist physically on the Card.

>>One of my main concerns is the switch-over to Solaris 2.1 and my
>>fear that a third-party product may be slow to advance the needed
>>drivers!

>Sun PC isn't Solaris 2.x ready yet... and we have not heard from puzzle....

Well, that wouldn't be good with a Synergy II. Its Software is currently
available for up to 4.1.2 ... Regards,
								J. Bern
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: LX Shipping dates +3 months
Keywords: gripe
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:59:36 GMT

igr@apl.Washington.EDU (Ignatius Rigor) writes:

>Has anyone out there actually received one of these LX's?  I ordered one in mid-december
>and just got a ship date from Sun of 3/24/93.  Does anybody out there besides me think
>that waiting over 3 months for an order is rather riduculous?

We got ours in December. It seems that they have underestimated the demand.
Three months is a long time.

Casper
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware