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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:47:52 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>	Wait!!  We are in Unix here...not MS-DOS.  Why would anyone,
>considering that everyone who is using the extfs says that they haven't
>had any problems, use a minix file system with the stupid MS-DOS
>limitations??  If you want those kinds of limitations, why not get
>FSUUCP and stick to DOS?  I'm quite confused :(

1. Some people do have problems with extfs.
2. Even if there were no problems with extfs, it is still labelled
   alpha, and not everybody likes to mess with things that are alpha.
   Not everybody has the time it takes to chase around bugs, and
   avoiding alpha versions helps cut down the number of bugs that you
   have to chase anyway.
3. Even if everybody used extfs, there are still plenty of people who
   have to transfer files via an MS-DOS system, and there is no need
   to be rude and unpleasant towards those people by forcing them to
   change names every time they want to install a new package.
4. Even if we were rude (well, actually we seem to be, but I'll talk
   about that some other time if at all), using filenames that require
   people going via MS-DOS rename things is going to come back and
   haunt us.  It isn't _that_ long ago when there was quite a lot of
   people asking what they should do with files that had to be
   renamed.  I don't think I've seen even one such question since the
   first version of SLS came out.  Make trouble for newbies and they
   will get their revenge by flooding the newsgroup with questions.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi  (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
   MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
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From: gdm@shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca (Giles D Malet)
Subject: Re: SED is buggy (libc.so.4.2 bug ?)
Organization: 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:56:27 GMT

More info, after some email made me look further.
Someone says their sed from SLS 0.99 works fine. I assume this is the same
sed as myself, which again makes me suspicious of the libraries.
Unfortunately this person omitted to tell me what library they are using.

I reckon sed must use the `regex' stuff, so I was looking at regex.h and
found this :

/* If this bit is not set, then \ inside a bracket expression is literal.
   If set, then such a \ quotes the following character.  */
#define RE_BACKSLASH_ESCAPE_IN_LISTS (1)

and

/* If this bit is set, (...) defines a group, and \( and \) are literals.
   If not set, \(...\) defines a group, and ( and ) are literals.  */
#define RE_NO_BK_PARENS (RE_NO_BK_BRACES << 1)

so I thought perhaps something in here had been changed beween releases
of the libraries. So I tried echo xxxfooyyy | sed 's/x*(foo)y*/\1/'
and it gave `foo'. Aha !

I did the following : $ echo 'xxx\foo\yyy' | sed 's/pattern/\1/', pattern
as below, and these are the results :

	x*(\\foo\\)y*		=>	\foo\
	x*(\\fo\o\\)y*		=>	\foo\
	x*\\(foo)\\y*		=>	foo
	x*\\(foo\)\\y*		=>	xxx\foo\yyy
	x*\\\(foo)\\y*		=>	xxx\foo\yyy
	x\*\\(foo)\\y*		=>	xxx\foo\yyy

Finally, $ echo 'xxx(foo)yyy' | sed 's/x*(\(foo\))y*/\1/' gives (foo).

So, all this means, unless I am missing something, that the library is
acting as indicated by the defines in regex.h above. It also means that
RE_NO_BK_PARENS has been flipped recently. Why ?

Which is `correct' ?  \(...\) defines a group, as in the old days, or
(...) defines a group, as now. Surely there is a correct and incorrect
way of doing this. One can't expected a script to grep & grope through
regex.h just to see what pattern to use for sed.

What do other folks libraries give ?

-- 
Giles D Malet                                             gdm@shrdlu.kwnet.on.ca
Waterloo, Ont, Canada       +1 519 725 5726       gdmalet@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Compiling 'shadow'
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:28:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: jti.C057o9.520
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA

wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell) writes:
>I had the similiar problem, it was due to the shared library libc.so.4.2.
>The login version that I got expected libc.so.4.1. If your using
>the 4.2 version of the shared library, try the following ...[description
>of binary file edits needed]

I'll certainly go ahead and try this trick, but I think it's good to
mention it here so hopefully it will be cleaner in the 1.0 release.

Binary mods to /bin/login make me a little queasy!  And I'll bet I'm
not alone.

-rich
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT [BUG in 0.99] Re: [ANNOUNCE]: linux version 0.99
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:50:02 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Keywords: kernel linux 0.99

According to wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius):
>In normal C programs, yes, but the kernel is a bit special.  Like, for
>instance, who is going to do the initialization?

Why couldn't the first thing in the kernel be a zeroing of bss?!
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
  "you make me want to break the laws of time and space / you make me
   want to eat pork / you make me want to staple bagles to my face /
   and remove them with a pitchfork" -- Weird Al Yankovic, "You Make Me"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: List of Broken Bins under 0.99 [v1.2]
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 07:44:20 GMT

tfoley@camaro.uucp (Tim Foley) writes:
> If you don't you have to hack around the source code of normally
>working programs, with 4.2, you can leave things alone...great for us that 
>just want to get the usenet feed going again with playing around with 
>sigaction calls etc...   lazy way out...but quick

if all you want is a recompiled set of uucp stuff that'll work with 
the current SLS, look on halcyon.com in /archive/pub/linux/newspak/uucp-099fix

I recompiled UUCP per Ian's instructions and it seems to work for me.
Make sure you follow the readme file...

-- 
   ------------------- Vince Skahan ------ vince@halcyon.com ----------------
    ... to list Waffle files available from the mail server at halcyon.com,
            send mail to 'fileserv@halcyon.com' with the text 'index' ...
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: Re: second batch of problems: tcsh, adduser, hostname, lilo.
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 19:08:47 GMT

In article <725844734snx@weasel.demon.co.uk> agc@weasel.demon.co.uk writes:
>In article <1hqvjiINNivb@tamsun.tamu.edu> ail8070@tamuts.tamu.edu (Andy I. Liaw) writes:
>> Hi all!
>> 
>> 3. If I changed the hostname to something other than softland,
>>    it'll remain changed.  But After reboot the hostname is back to
>>    softland.  What's causing this?
>> 
>
>You need to change the name in tools/version.h which doesn't get updated
>for some reason.  Maybe a change to version.sh would fix it.....?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Alan.
>-- 

I thought it was set in /etc/rc.local (I am at work and can't check).

Peter



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: suggestion spliting g
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:16:31 GMT

   From: gero@gkminix.han.de (Gero Kuhlmann)
   Date: 15 Dec 92 18:44:42 GMT

   I highly agree with you. At the present I get about 200 postings per day for
   comp.os.linux, and I had to decrease the expire time down to 4 days in order
   to keep my spool disk from overflowing.

you realize, of course, that splitting c.o.l will not keep your spool
disk from overflowing --- in fact, experience has shown that splitting
tends to increase overall noise without significantly increasing overal
signal.... 

   Do you (or anybody else) have any idea of how to subdivide this
   group? I think we should at least create a group which covers all the 
   newcomer questions and regular postings like the FAQ and the INFO
   SHEET.

USENET is simply a horrible way of dealing with newcomer questions; we
need a better way.  I do have one in mind, which involves using email
and a list of volunteers to field questions, such that each question
goes to only one volunteer, who can forward it on to someone else if
he/she caqn't answer it.  Unfortunately, I need to implement some
software to do this first.  (Last time, I asked for volunteers before
writing the software, and I got too swamped to write the software; this
time, I'm writing the software first.  :-)  Hopefully sometime in
January/February I'll have time to tackle this.

						- Ted
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: BUG of feature: cannot move `foo' accross file systems
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 14:16:33 GMT

kankkune@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen) writes:


>Just noticed that mv refuses to move symlinks accross file systems. With
>SunOS this isn't a problem, and I think POSIX would mind that, too.

that's a feature, not a bug.
many *nix'es don't allow that.

-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
	Heineken uncertainty principle: you can never be sure how many
		beers you had last night.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: Re: known problem with email...buy why?
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 19:11:31 GMT

In article <marcf.725824735@yorku.ca> marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>wonge@fraser.sfu.ca (Edmund Wong) writes:
>
>
>>   HOWEVER, besides disallowing your users send mail, like I suggested,
>>you could always revert to 'mail'...which, for some reason, WORKS..
>
>> Hmm... wierd..eh?  It doesn't work with elm, but it works for mail..
>
>>  ISN'T this wierd???
>> 
>>  Or am I just hallucinating everything???
>
>>
>	No hallucinations...I get the exact same thing.  Permissions
>are the same for mail and elm though :(
>
>Marc


Here is a shot in the dark:  doesn't a process have to be running as 
root to use "chown"?  Elm is sgid mail.

Peter

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ah214@yfn.ysu.edu (Weijin Mai)
Subject: SLS 98p5: ioctl invalid argument in boot up
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:46:15 GMT


	Every Linux boot up, it gives ioctl : Invalid argument. What is ioctl?
Is this a serious problem? How can I fix it?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ckurs-2@wilbur.uni-mainz.de (Teilnehmer am C-Kurs WS 1992_93)
Subject: [BUG REPORT]
Keywords: 0.99pl1 kernel keyboard linus
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:22:21 GMT

*** 0.99pl1 has not changed my keyboard lockups for the better, it got WORSE ***
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bug Description:
----------------
As i posted here in this group earlier, my keyboard goes dead everytime i press
one of the lock keys (CAPS LOCK and SCROLL LOCK led will light up, NUM LOCK led
will go dark). But i was able to switch the vc's with no problems.
After applying the patch1 to the kernel, i can not switch vc's any more, kbd will
lock after the switch.

What I tried to fix it:
-----------------------
My first suspition was that kb_wait() and kb_ack() are not working for me the way
they should. So i added a printk(...) to show me wether the end of the for loop
is reached without an acknoledge of the kbd-controller.

Result: No message was printed, the keyboard just locked.

So i digged deeper in keyboard.c and found ... nothing, except a lack of checks
for the keyboard errors OVERRUN and RESEND. (Never thought that might be
necessary!). So i looked through my archive and found an article in c't 6/1988
about PC/AT/MF2-keyboards and programming the keyboard controller. Now I started
to add more checks on the communication between keyboard and controller,
controller selftest and some sort of watchdog which will reset the keyboard and
the controller ...
But since i started just yesterday i have no results. Any help or suggestions
are welcome! (Please help me! I have started coding in C just 8 weeks ago !!!)

Happy New Year!

Dominik

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:39:52 GMT

Joseph R. Pannon (danubius@halcyon.com) wrote:
>Is there a way to warmboot the system after shutdown of Linux?  Only the
>reset button seems to work.

There are several different ways to shut down most unix boxes, linux amoung
them. 

shutdown on its own generally drops the system into single user mode. This
depends on which /etc/init you are running.

'shutdown -r' reboots the system. If you don't have to let anyone know that
you are shutting down (ie. you are the only user) then "shutdown -r now" or
"reboot" will do things immediately.

'shutdown -h' halts the system. "shutdown -h now" and "halt" are equivalent.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: b645zav@utarlg.uta.edu (Christopher Morris)
Subject: Help! Can't start any apps after X386mono loads
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Silly newbie question
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:19:00 GMT

Hi *,

I am sure my question has a real simple answer, but I am new to Linux
(unix-like OS') and X-windows so I don't know what to look for.  I've read the
FAQ(s) but so far no luck.  Here is my situation:  I have a basic VGA card (OAK
OTI chipset) so the only X mode I can use is X386mono.  I have had some success
when I attempt load X using one of the ET4000 chipsets, but the screen is
greatly distorted.  However, I can see that Xclock and a Bash window start when
I press one of the mouse buttons.  When I run X386mono - the X pointer appears
on a cross-hatch background and I can move the pointer around, but no programs
start when I press any of the mouse buttons.

I would like to know how to instruct X386mono to startup some apps when it
loads!  I've played around with .xinitrc, but without success.

Thanks for any and every answer!
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
/ Christopher Morris                  Jesus said, 'I am the way, the truth, /
/ University of Texas @ Arlington     and the life.  No one comes to the    /
/ b645zav@utarlg.uta.edu              Father but by me.'          John 14:6 /
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: palmj@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Jyri L. Palm)
Subject: gcc : Internal compiler error
Summary: GCC : Internal compiler error : fatal signal 11
Keywords: GCC Internal Error
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:20:41 GMT


Basically, when I try compiling various packages, the most common error message
that I'm getting nowadays is :

gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
make: *** [main.o] Error 1

I've not gotten to any conclusions on why this seems to be happening about
50% of the time when I try to compile applications, and it's something which
is very easy to recreate. The latest one which I got was when I tried to 
compile umoria. I don't know if it's because I'm running too many things 
in X, so here's the output from "free" :

             total       used      cache       free     shared
memory:       6876       6384        452         40       2580
swap0:       12500       2880                  9620         20

According to gcc -v, I have :

Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.2.2d/specs
gcc version 2.2.2d

I know that I'm not the only person who's had this problem with cc1, is there
a FAQ for this (I haven't really checked) ? I've got loads of stuff that I'm
trying to compile for my system and it's frustrating when I'm blocked by this
error. *ANY* suggestions would really be appreciated. Please mail to
palmj@rpi.edu ... thanks once again.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "William Cooper" <p00099@psilink.com>
Subject: can't compile with -g or -static flag
Reply-To: p00099@psilink.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:18:30 GMT

Using new SLS w/ .99pl0 kernel, 

	cc -g any.c
or
	cc -static any.c

gives

	"Can't find file libgcc.a"

What am I doing wrong?


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell)
Subject: Re: setup for linux 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Home for Three Headed Canines
Reply-To: alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 14:20:38 +0000


In article <1992Dec25.193840.3569@cdf.toronto.edu> a1001032@cdf.toronto.edu writes:

>Hi,folks:
>
>I'm going to buy a setup like this:
>
>486DX-50 ISA board
>8Mb RAM
>ATI WONDER XL24 1Mb w/o mouse
>ADI 3e n.i. monitor
>Quantum 240Mb IDE H.D. and Floppies.
>
>Any problems with the above setup for linux?? :-)
>
>Merry Christmas and Happy New year..
>
>-- 
>|       ____                    | You know you've been spending too much time |
>|      /    . __   __   __      | on the computer when your friend misdatess  |
>|     /--- / /  ) /  ) ___)     | a check, and you suggest adding a "++" to   |
>|____/    / (__/ /  / (__(______|_fix it._____________________________________|
>
>
Nothing I can think of ,you may what to change the Graphics card to an S3
card (Orchid Fahrenheit ?) for running X but you don't need to.

Merry Christmas

-- 

anthony

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ianj@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Ian Justman )
Subject: Re: new user questions: mail, uucp, minicomm
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822    Sacramento CA.  USA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:17:07 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

sigler@hp750.itg.ti.com (John Sigler) writes:

: First, I just started using Linux and I'm impressed! 

Welcome to the fold.

: These have probably been answered elsewhere but I'll ask anyway ... I've
: noticed a number of users asking about problems in uucp, mail, and minicom. I'm
: using SLS 98p5 and am experiencing problems with each also. 
: 
: 1) Just typing mail causes a core and through elm or emacs rmail mail seems to
: be sent but never arrives (I'm just trying it locally). 

You might want to grab smail 2.5 or 3.1.28 and compile it instead.

: 2) Minicom -s gives a seg violation so I can't ever set it up. I brought a
: version down from tsx-11 with a patch hoping that had a fix in it but it didn't.

Is it the H.J. Lu patch?  If so, then it should work.  I'm using it right
now with no difficulties.

: 3) I've had some problems setting up uucp. While browsing the net I've noticed
: several people implying uucp does not work currently. Is this correct? 

I posted a patch for this a while ago.  You need to grab mpak-1.3.tar.Z
to use this patch.  As for me, I'm running Taylor UUCP and luvvin' it!!!!

: For all of the above, if they are not working now. Is there a previous version
: I can count on?

Well, maybe not the programs, but you can count on an older version of the
kernel, 0.98pl1 works just fine for those programs.

: Thanks in advance for any help.

Anytime.

: --
: John Sigler     
: Texas Instruments
-- 
Born to void warranties!	ianj@ijpc.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ngoh@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (NGO HIEN D)
Subject: PEXlib/PEX server available?
Keywords: PEX, PEXlib, PEX server
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:38:15 GMT

I remember some request in the past regarding PEXlib/server, but never
saw any follow-up.  My biggest question is:  Is there a PEX display
server available for Linux?  The current server code in X386 doesn't
have any of the source or notes regarding the PEX extensions.  I have
never re-built the Linux display server so I am not sure where to start
here.  As for PEXlib, I have the source for the sample implentation,
but it turns out that I need some parts of the mit R5 distribution to
make it.  This part, I may be able to compile, but without a working
display server would be useless.  (Besides, building any part of R5
takes up beaucoup disk... anyone recall how much space is needed to
build the R5 distribution?)

Any help/pointers greatly appreciated.

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From: rob@phavl.UUCP (Robert Ransbottom)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Fujistu
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:09:44 GMT
Organization: erehton

In article <20DEC199205281017@cnsvax> tannerrj@cnsvax (ROOT OF INSIGHT-- A 486 RUNNING LINUX V0.99) writes:

>I am looking for the stats (heads, sectors and cylinders) for
>the Fujistu SCSI drive model number m2624F-512. Thanks

Me too! Me too! (sorry folks, mail fail)

More generally what is the correct method to acquire the
correct numbers on SCSI drives for Linux?

Thank you.
-- 
rob   Robert Ransbottom
"It is extremely important to maintain correct attributions." -- anonymous
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bbm@mh.nl (Martin Baan)
Subject: working xload
X-Md4-Signature: fb5474f570629f6d97ac37eaf6f496c4
Organization: Multihouse Automation, the Netherlands
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:59:38 GMT


Since I haven't been able to find a working copy of xload (for SLS
.99) I tried to get it working myself. I'm not sure all I did is
correct, but I did get xload to display things that look right to me.

This is what I did:

I downloaded pub/linux/packages/banjo-incoming/xmem.tar.Z and
pub/linux/sources/usr.bin.X11/xload.tar.Z from tsx-11.

I added psdata.c and psdata.h from xmem.tar.Z to the files from
xload.tar.Z.

I added the next line to get_load.c:
    #include <linux/sched.h>

changed the literal "_averunnable" in function InitLoadPoint in
get_load.c to "_avenrun".

added psdata.c and psdata.h to Imakefile:
    SRCS = xload.c get_load.c psdata.c
    OBJS = xload.o get_load.o psdata.o

after that:

xmkmf
make depend
make

and it works!

Note: I didn't use the macro CALC_LOAD as defined in sched.h, although
I'm sure it is intended for this kind of programs...





-- 
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