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From: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Subject: Re: Game show questions needed!!
Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: questions game show
Reply-To: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson)
Organization: Stanford University Academic Information Resources
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:01:59 GMT

In article <1dp20bINNk2c@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, pauls@css (Paul Southworth) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.152248.21374@tamsun.tamu.edu> ski8032@tamsun.tamu.edu (The Man Behind The Curtain) writes:
>>Texas A&M University is hosting the 17th South Central Regional
>>Programming Contest on November 14, 1992.  Besides the actual
>>competition itself, we would like to conduct some sort of
>>quiz bowl event for the amusement and edification of the
>>participants.
>>
>>So here's where you come in.  We were considering putting on
>>two types of shows: one like Jeopardy and one like Family Feud.
>>Typical categories/questions for Jeopardy might be:
>>
>>ACRONYMS:
>>
>>RTFM       (Read the flaming manual)
>                      ^^^^^^^
>
>Hmm... that wasn't quite how I've heard that acronym spelled out.

Aggies.  Can't get a *thing* right.

>(:-)

(Ugliest Longhorn *I* ever saw.)

And for the fellow I followed up:  "Go, Buckeyes!"

(Flame bait?  *What* flame bait? :-)
-- 
Rich Alderson   'I wish life was not so short,' he thought.  'Languages take
                such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
                                                        --J. R. R. Tolkien,
alderson@leland.stanford.edu                              _The Lost Road_
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: CM5 pic - terribly sorry gentlemen, it's a dud
From: pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:29:21 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

I've just had a reply from Thinking Machines - unfortunately it looks like I
can't distribute it:

>The CM5 poster was a limited edition, and as such is not available for
>copying or further publication by anyone, in any form.  Accordingly,
>Thinking Machines would not be willing to grant the requested permission.

Sorry about that folks.... pity, it was a nice pic, and a nice machine.

Peter.
--
    pgut1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz || peterg@kcbbs.gen.nz || peter@nacjack.gen.nz
			   (In order of preference)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA (Lucio de Re)
Subject: Re: Unix administration horror stories.
Organization: MegaByte Digital Communications
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:25:51 GMT

pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) writes:

[ ... ruthlessly hacking at pertinent info ... ]
>The problem is that there are no *free* 286 unix packages like there are
>for the 386 (386BSD and Linux).  The cost of buying the commercial
>286 packages will roughly approximate the cost of upgrading your
>system to a 386 (and then getting a free OS).  For example, you could

Almost true, 'cept if cash is a _real_ problem, one must keep in mind
that Minix will run floppy-based and neither Linux nor 386BSD will fit
comfortably in less than 80MBytes (that's an opinion, based on my
wanting at least 200MBytes disk before I try either out).

Not intended as a flame, merely to point out an easily overlooked
cost.
-- 
Lucio de Re (lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA)
The supernatural does not exist, but it gives me the creeps...
From: deraadt@newt.cuc.ab.ca (Theo de Raadt)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Value of a PDP-11,VAX-11/750?
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:49:13 GMT
Organization: little lizard city

Actually, the higher qbus pdp11's like the 11/73 hold their price quite
well. Either that, or there were not that many of them to begin...
 <tdr.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: 8L
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:57:59 GMT

In article <BETSYS.92Nov7194415@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>I'd think that the Computer Museum in Boston is particularly
>vulnerable to the dangers of junk piling up. Imagine what would happen
>if they were NOT allowed to sell off stuff! Can you picture them
>getting even 1 out of every 1000 old computers? What if 1 in 10,000
>PCjr owners decided to ship their old PCjr to Boston? Or 1 in
>1,000,000 old PC and XT owners?

We aren't talking about machines where an "unsuccessful" computer "only"
sells x00,00 of them, and there is a possibility that the "museum" gets
x00 or x,000 of them, nor are we talking about machines that are physically
large or have numerous modules.

>   Besides, I'd say that recently mass-produced items are just not in
>the same category as dinosaur bones. If you've got 2 PDP/8's you've
>got one to fix and one to keep in pristine condition. You can't
>carbon-date them or analyze their chemical composition to tell you
>anything you can't find out by reading their documentation, also
>unlike natural artifacts. 

Correct, we aren't talking about dinosaur bones; there are *more* of that
kind of artifact available than early machine parts, but I still don't
see a clear mandate from paleontologists to sell the bones to the public
for use on Halloween.

>   If the computer museum announces their sales, and scientists and
>other museums have a chance to buy the stuff they are selling, what
>more could you want?

I want a reality check.  What you suggest wasn't done at all.  As I posted,
what was done was no attempt to contact anyone with a "legitimate" interest
in the stuff was made, and instead it was insultingly sold off the the
public at large (attendees of the establishment) indescriminately as curiousity
pieces and petty souvenirs as "mementos" of their visit there.

>--
>System Administrator                  Internet: betsys@cs.umb.edu
>MACS Dept, UMass/Boston               BITNET:ESCHWARTZ%UMBSKY.DNET@NS.UMB.EDU
>100 Morrissy Blvd                     Staccato signals
>Boston, MA 02125-3393                      of constant information....

cjl


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas)
Subject: HP Monitor models
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:21:27 GMT

Just noticed something very weird in an installation booklet for a
HP monitor. It was for the models 1734C and 1734D (probably got the
number wrong here), and stated that "1734C is sold in the northern
hemisphere and 1734D in the southern hemisphere".

I really can't think of an explanation for that... 
-- 
Thomas Koenig, ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ui0t@dkauni2.bitnet
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: Command completion (warstyle thread) ( Was: You know you've been
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:28:01 GMT

frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger) writes:

>In article <BxK1px.FHx@vcd.hp.com>, along@vcd.hp.com (Anthony Long) writes...
>>...
>>	What the hell, I'll vote for the fraction idea! But seriously,
>>when I ran this lie on my machine using a Universal Language/OS Cross-
>>Compiler ...

>	What do you get when you divide a Language by an OS?

Why - the universal constant: C

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"I need that trephination stuff like I need another hole in the head"
    --  Kim L. Greer in alt.folklore.urban
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:53:14 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1dph4mINN995@chnews.intel.com>,
by smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~):
> 
> Pong!!!

Nope.  Pong was the first "mass market" video game.  As I understand it,
the first implementations didn't use a computer, and it came at least a
decade after the first computer games (of which Spacewar is the best known,
but there may be obscure others that predate it).

				Doug Jones
				jones@cs.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: gothick@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Matthew B. M. Gibson)
Subject: Re: proliferation of alt.adjective.noun.verb.verb.verb groups
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 11:14:42 GMT

rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel) writes:


>In a previous article, alange@rahul.net (Andrew Lange) says:
>	[list of alt.adj.n.v.v.v groups deleted]
>>
>>Does anyone know of the history of this prediliction for naming groups
>>alt.opt-adjective.noun.verb.verb.verb ?
>>
>>Which is the first one you saw? Have you ever created one?

>	I have only been on the net for 2 years, so I hardly qualify
>as net.god.  However, the word I hear from the bona fide net.gods is
>that alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork was the first such group with
>the triplicated verb.verb.verb.  For the Swedish Chef this is natural,
>because he says "Bork! Bork! Bork!" as a matter of course.  I am also
>told that this newsgroup formerly had a fair amount of traffic, which
>has since been diverted to alt.tv.muppets.

Well, the first one I remember seeing was (I *think*) before the Swedish
Chef - About the time of the breakdown of the USSR there was 
"alt.gorby.gone.gone.gone".

Just my $0.02 worth..

Matt
-- 
 Matthew B. M. Gibson:
 gothick@dcs.warwick.ac.uk - mgibson@nyx.cs.du.edu -  csudo@csv.warwick.ac.uk
 "Great.  I'm a million miles from home, about to be killed, with a 
  gung-ho iguana who tells me to relax"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson)
Subject: Re: domain questions
Organization: Theoretical Physics, Lund University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:06:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.164644.26457@adobe.com> taft@adobe.com (Ed Taft) writes:
>Now that we've answered that question, can anyone explain WHY we've
>adopted the convention of identifying countries with two-letter codes?
>It certainly doesn't seem very user-friendly. Perhaps a concession to
>some archaic database technology?

No, I don't think it's got anything to do with database technology at
all.  There's a tradition of using N-letter codes (with 1 <= N <= 3)
for countries in a lot of contexts: International banking, on cars, on
aeroplanes, on letters. 

And speaking of archaic databases: While it's well known that until
well into the seventies, primitive DP systems forced people to used
strange numeric codes instead of plain text on many official forms,
I've never heard of a database so archaic as to force people to
abbreviate fields to two letters. Has anybody else?

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From: wethater@rodan.acs.syr.edu (William E. Thater)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Unix administration horror stories.
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:42:00 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY


	Can anybody point me to a UN*X port or clone i can run on my
286box at home? No I can't afford to upgrade to a 386 right now, so I'm
stuck. Any hope? Please e-mail me at <wethater@mailbox.syr.edu>.

Thanks;

Bill Thater
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
Subject: Re: command abbreviation
Organization: Generic American College Kids (G.A.C.K.)
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:42:29 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg)
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Shankar Unni (shankar@sgi.com) wrote:
>
>If any of you is familiar with the SPL language on the old HP3000's,
>it too used "<-" (the back-arrow, I mean) as an alternate assignment
>operator in addition to ":=".  It was quite popular in the early days
>before people moved away from the old TTYs to more modern terminals.
>
>Which meant that on later displays and printers one ended up reading
>old code that looked like:
>
>  x _ x + 1;
>
>(Shudder..) Worse, some of the *really* *crusty* old-timers continued
>to write code like that, too..

Huh.  I'm an assistant system manager (read: work-study slave) here at
Columbia U. (in CTR, for all you locals), and I've just recently been learning
perl, where $_ is the default operand of a lot of commands, and @_ is the
array in which subroutine parameters are passed.  D'you suppose Larry Wall
might've spent some time programming in SPL...?

	Seth "the Lesser"

Seth L. Blumberg          \ Warning: This posting has been determined to cause
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: ploof@griffin (Scott B Ploof)
Subject: Humorus Comp. Stores wanted
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:23:16 GMT

I noticed that there have been a lot of light-hearted stories going around
concerning definitions of "true programmers" and "the manly computer 
language".

I'd love to start a collection of these stories..possibly to be put
together into one format for FTP downloading.

If you have any of these articles please send them to me:
either at Ploof@uvm.edu   OR  Ploof@uvm-gen.uvm.edu
if you can FTP send them to 141.214.4.135  /projects/legacy

please...if you have any of these send them to me....there are a lot of people
who would find them funny that don't freq alt.computers.folklore.....and to
put them together side by side would spare no one |)

thanks in advance.......
From: azog@spatula.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Value of a PDP-11,VAX-11/750?
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:12:40 GMT
Organization: A kitchen utensil somewhere in central New Jersey

In article <1di80bINNgst@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> john@gu.uwa.edu.au (John West) writes:
>Power is a little more of a problem. The one we've got had
>2 15A power cables - we hacked the ends to fit the 10A sockets we've got,
>and plugged it in. Worked fine. Even managed the VAX, a fridge, an urn,
>a largish photocopier, and a microwave oven on the same circuit. Until
>someone opened the microwave door and the light came on :-(

Reminds me of the day I was running my 730 in the basement (VAX, R80, and
RL02 all on the same 15 amp circut, along with who-knows-what-else in 
this house...), and some friends came over to watch some videos. Pressed
PLAY and wham! Pretty fun :) 

-- 
Billy D'Augustine azog@spatula.rent.com

"I am the politician, and I decide your fate"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Subject: Re: *free* Unix ?? (was: Unix admin horror stories)
Reply-To: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Organization: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:21:19 GMT

markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger) writes:
>In article <1dnu6lINNchh@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>  
>pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) writes:
>> ...
>> The problem is that there are no *free* 286 unix packages like there are
>> for the 386 (386BSD and Linux).  
>> ...
>Can someone tell me where to get a copy of one of these *free* unix
>packages?

check out the following newsgroups and look for a FAQ:

	comp.os.linux
	comp.unix.bsd

the major FTP sites for linux are tsx-11.mit.edu and sunsite.unc.edu.
I donno about site for 386BSD... find the faq.. =)
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Xref: sparky alt.folklore.computers:16014 comp.unix.admin:6115
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: WANTED: Unix administration horror stories !
From: 9125113g@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Mitch Davis)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:11:55 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <1992Nov04.124707.9356@edsi.plexus.COM> chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi) writes:

>The good thing about this is that I got to do a talk about backups at 
>HP two months later (it started as a joke "Hey let's get Chuck to talk 
>about backups, ha ha.") and received an HP 95LX for my efforts.  I 
>can't imagine life without the 95LX as a System Administrator. 
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you still have to come in for work, or does the 95LX answer the phone
as well?

Mitch.
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Stupid ads
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 09:34:27 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

patman@ctron.com (Patrick C. Mancuso) writes:

> In article <1992Nov02.091627.16874@donau.et.tudelft.nl> wolff@zen.et.tudelft.
> >aeschwar@ncsu.edu (Adam E. Schwartz) writes:
> >About stupid ads: I have an add for a headphone set hanging on my wall:
> >Super headphones               only $10,-
> >range 20.000 to 30.000 Hz.
> 
> Back during the 1976 winter olympics, the local TV listing folks were getting
> into the spirit of 'that wacky metric stuff' by listing such favorite
> events as 10,000 Millimeter Speed Skating, and 100 Centimeter cross-
> country skiing.  They never did seem to get the hang of that milli-deci-centi
> stuff...  

Yes, but even if it was 20,000 to 30,000 hertz, they still wouldn't be 
too good!

50-25000 hz is ok :-)

Daniel Max P. Drucker

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From: rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 08:28:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard=) says:

>What was the very first computer game?  When I say computer game, I mean a
>game that would not exist without the computer. (ex: ZORK, Adventure,
>Pac-Man, but not computer Tic-Tac-Toe or computer chess.)

	Global Thermonuclear War.
-- 
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Co-Sysop, Coleco ADAM Forum ******* EOS-5 / EOS-7 / OS-7 / T-DOS / soon EOS-8!
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From: sarr@sinshan.citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Wanted: Altair 800 or Imsai 8080 and Modem
Date: 12 Nov 1992 14:07:17 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, CITI
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sinshan.citi.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov12.055704.11469@fcom.cc.utah.edu> bcc@lanai.Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper) writes:
>
>Of course, other baud rates in those early boxes were 75, 110, and 150.
>Working at 110 baud would make you very tired, very quickly.  I think that
>110 was what was meant above, not 100 baud.
>
Don't forget 134.5.  Used on ald IBM terminals that used 6 bit
characters (with shift characters) and Selectric (tm) typewriter
printer mechanics, for all you young folks.


(Sarr Blumson)
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Game show questions needed!!
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:19:39 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Keywords: questions game show
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov10.152248.21374@tamsun.tamu.edu> ski8032@tamsun.tamu.edu (The Man Behind The Curtain) writes:
>Texas A&M University is hosting the 17th South Central Regional
>Programming Contest on November 14, 1992.  Besides the actual
>competition itself, we would like to conduct some sort of
>quiz bowl event for the amusement and edification of the
>participants.
>
>So here's where you come in.  We were considering putting on
>two types of shows: one like Jeopardy and one like Family Feud.
>Typical categories/questions for Jeopardy might be:
>
>ACRONYMS:
>
>RTFM       (Read the flaming manual)
                      ^^^^^^^

Hmm... that wasn't quite how I've heard that acronym spelled out.
 


Paul Southworth                    |           ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 |         Political Archives in /poli
Information Technology Division    |     Writable incoming directory on:
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor  |         redspread.css.itd.umich.edu 

  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
From: clive@x.co.uk (Clive Feather)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Thoughts
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:36:12 GMT
Organization: IXI Limited, Cambridge, UK

In article <5399.168.uupcb@ssr.com> dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) writes:
>> No, the first answer is right. It is a penny-farthing bicycle (I've ofter
>> wondered what these are called in America, where I suspect they did not h
>> farthings - or am I wrong about that).
> No farthings, but when those bicycles were still common, they were
> indeed called "penny-farthings" here as well...

Actually, the correct name for one of these is an "Ordinary".

-- 
Clive D.W. Feather     | IXI Limited         | If you lie to the compiler,
clive@x.co.uk          | Vision Park         | it will get its revenge.
Phone: +44 223 236 555 | Cambridge   CB4 4RZ |   - Henry Spencer
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: efh@eff.org (Ed Hardebeck)
Subject: Re: New owner of a PDP-8e
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers,alt.sys.pdp8
Organization: ON Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:19:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct28.235258.4581@s1.gov>, jtk@s1.gov (Jordin Kare) wrote:
> Migawd!  30 years of PDP-5's!  You might check with the MIT Electronics
> Research Society, room 20B119 (?) at MIT.  They used to have a PDP-5
> (I know because I rebuilt it, long ago in my college days) and may
> well either still have it or know where it went.  Geoff Rochat would
> be the person to ask.
> 
> 	Jordin Kare
> -- 
> 
> 	Jordin Kare	jtk@s1.gov	510-426-0363

Hi Jordin!

You might recall that you (representing ERS) sold that PDP-5 to me in 1979
for $25.

I had it running for quite a while, I remember that due to corrosion on the
System Module contacts sometimes an accumulator bit would get "stuck".  You
could usually
tell which bit by the lights on the front panel, then go into the back,
count over to the right
module (there were 12 for the accumulator, one for each bit) and wiggle it
a little, then hit
Continue and go on.  (Of course the program would still be fine in core,
that would stay even
between power cycles).

We had it connected to the original MIT PDP-1 3340(?) display (*the*
original Spacewar display)
which I had also acquired.  We hacked up a version of Munching Squares for
the 5 and the 3340
scope.

I believe that after I moved my roomates donated the 5 to the Computer
Museum 
sometime in the mid '80s.  There was a complete set of documentation (which
in those
days included full schematics and a tutorial on the diode-capacitor logic
(0 and -3
volt logic levels) used in the System Modules).

The Computer Museum had a 5 previous to this, so they should have at least
two now.

Ed Hardebeck
efh@eff.org