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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:02:06 GMT

In article <15075@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>In article <Aug.19.22.19.36.1992.7766@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>>How much better are you are armwrestling now than you were at it last
>>year?  Think you've improved enough that you could take me? :)
>
>I'd rip your arm off and eat it like a chicken leg.  :-)

My God, Adam!  First you threaten to wrap an olympic bar around my
neck and now this!  Roid rage has caused Adam to begin to 
EAT HUMAN BEINGS!!  Come to your senses, man!  Human lives are
precious, and not to be eaten!  Think what the refs would do if
they caught you eating your opponents!  Come back to us, buddy!
>
>							-Adam
>
>-- 
"Okay, this is ABC.  We're back with the armwrestling championships.
We have some instant replay of that last bout.  Now, slowing it down,
you can see Silver make his move.  Here... uh-oh.  Silver has eaten
his opponent's arm.  I believe that's... yes.  It is a foul.  Silver
has been disqualified.  He's come in second to a guy with one arm."
>     **********************************************************************
>     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler/Cannibal      *
>     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
>     **********************************************************************
From: riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca (Reg Foulkes)
Subject: Re: The performance tables
Followup-To: misc.fitness
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:28:05 GMT

In article <15023@umd5.umd.edu>, silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
wrote:

> >
> >  No Chris, I don't have sort arms. I have very long arms, also legs. 
> >I figure that's why I do so well with back exercises, whereas chest
> >is relatively week (my max on BP is only 225)
> 
> See, Chris, people with long arms have their advantages too.  Generally (not
> always), people with longer arms can do more on back exercises and arm
> exercises.

  As a matter of fact, since I have long legs, long arms and short waist
for a 6 footer I have a great dead lift(>450), pull down(>350), but shitty
pench press. My measurements are pretty bizzare. Let's see
    calves : 16.5
    thighs  : 25.5"
    hip girth (13", measured hip bone to hip bone) 
    waist (35")
    chest (44.5" most of which is back width)
    arms (15.6")
    forarms (13")
    leg and arm length 36"

    To even out my shape I need to add more to arms decrease from my waist.
But decreasing from my waist is tough, since I have such wide hips and 
running just doesn't seem to work. I guess I'll have to starve.
***********************************
riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca (Reg Foulkes)

No passion on earth, no love or hate
Is equal to the passion 
to change someone else's code
From: agrawal@lipari.usc.edu (Amitabh Agrawal)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Reducing External Obliques
Date: 18 Aug 1992 19:05:16 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: misc
NNTP-Posting-Host: lipari.usc.edu


My external obliques exist and they look ugly. Right now I am not sure
that they are muscle or fat... They seem to be muscle because the
shape is approximately right... On the other hand the region is pretty
soft (I don't work them... God forbid!!) I did work on them about 6
years ago when I was stupid and ignorant... 

Anyway, is there any way of figuring out whether some piece of tissue
is fat or muscle and if it is indeed muscle how do I get rid of it? Is
there a muscle equivalent of liposuction?

Amitabh 

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: Jogging
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:20:55 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Aug14.152420.14298@cid.aes.doe.CA> afsidbb@cidsv07.Berkeley.EDU (Douglas Bender) writes:
> on my last
>sprint I felt a twinge on the outside of my right leg, just below the
>knee. It didn't hurt that much so I tried to jog the rest of the way
>home (about 4km)....big mistake!!

You're probably suffering from shin splints, a common runner's
problem that is discussed in the rec.running FAQ.

Had you stopped running at the onset of pain, your injury would 
have lasted only a few days. Since you continued exercising
in spite of the pain, the injury may take several weeks to 
heal.

These injuries must be taken seriously because symptoms may
continue for several years if you persist in running in spite
of the pain.

Treatment consists of rest and pursuing an alternate sport other
than running that doesn't contribute to the pain. 
 


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: MULLEN@scorpion.ag.uiuc.edu (Evil Twin)
Subject: Re: Pyramids vs increasing weight, decreasing, etc.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20
Organization: Tony's Most Excellent NewsReader
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:55:29 GMT

In <1992Aug15.192155.16485@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu writes:

          [...stuff deleted...]

>                                 ...  I was told by a track coach that
> 	a "balanced leg" can curl half of what it does on the exentions.

The percentage I've always read is that the hamstring should be able to do
80% of the quads if you don't want any problems in sport participation.  I
once read an article (soccer I believe) where the author recommended that
the athlete develop the hamstrings to 100% of the quadriceps!!

> 	Leg extention, the machine maxes out at 150(?) a weight that
> 	I can do 35 reps with and only get bored.   If I try the same
> 	weight with one leg, I can do 15-20 per set, but it bruises my
> 	shins terribly.   I have eliminated this exercise from my workout,
> 	as it seems pointless.

Several possibilities here.  Add some additional cushioninging by wrapping a
towel or two around the pad.  Or maybe you can do some negatives; i.e. lift
with both legs but lower slowly with one.

           [...additional stuff trimmed...]
> Jim Del Vecchio
--

Evil Twin -                                                       one_spike
	the Man, the Myth, the Legend in His Own Mind -         //~____/  ~\\
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From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: What's the deal with those carbohydrates
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:39:32 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <_1!ng4p.garyd@netcom.com>, garyd@netcom.com (Gary Dietz) writes:
> (Posted for a friend)
> 
> What is a good amount of carbohydrates to ingest daily if you work out?
> 
> What is a good book to read about carbohydrates and sports diets?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gary (for Dave. . . )
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
>    "To find fault is easy; to do better may be difficult."  -Plutarch

It's hard to say what a "good amount" of carbohydrates is for a work out.  It
depends upon your metabolic rate and how intense your workouts are.  The more
intense they are and the faster your met. rate is, the more carbs your body
will require.  Remember in order to fuel your body for a workout, you should 
consume complex and not simple carbohydrates.

A good book is Ultimate Sports Nutrition, by Frederick C. Hatfield Phd.  It
is a black paperback book that should be in your local book store.

-Rob
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*Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu                                                   *
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From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Subject: Re: Chromium Polynicotinate or Picolinate
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:42:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.142341.19154@bwdls61.bnr.ca> mole@bnr.ca (Mark Asistores) writes:
>
>I checked around and there are hardly any products with  Chromium
>Polynicotinate.   Also,  if  what  he  says  is true are we being
>ripped off by products containing Chromium Picolinate ?
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I had read about this stuff and decided to give it a try.  I think I was 
ripped off.  I wouldn't buy it again.  I take my workout seriously, but I
saw NO improvements.


Evans.-
From: lisa@zeppelin.llnl.gov (Lisa Corsetti)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Body Gold
Keywords: Is it for real?
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: lisa@zeppelin.llnl.gov (Lisa Corsetti)
Organization: Climate Model Intercomparison Group, LLNL

Hi People,

In a magazine add, I saw this stuff called "Body Gold" available through
mail order.  The add read as follows:

        22% Less Body Fat in Six Weeks 
        University studies have identified CHROMIUM PICOLINATE
        as a trigger for fat loss and lean muscle enhancement.
        200 micrograms taken daily caused a 22% fat loss in only
        six weeks.

        Women of every age are talking about the amazing benefits
        of this safe, essential nutrient:

        Weight Loss - Fat Loss More Endurance and Stamina More
        Lean Muscle

        Body Gold is made to the exact specifications of the
        capsules used in the studies.  Each bottle of 60 capsules
        is a two month supply.

Okay, I saw this in "New Woman Magazine".  Does anyone know what
this chemical *really* does.  Are the claims for real?  Thanks
in advance!

                                                Lisa


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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Aerobics and Bodybuilding
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:59:37 GMT

In article <Aug.18.18.01.04.1992.5222@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>I'm adding regular aerobic workouts to my bodybuilding.  Currently
>I'm 26, weigh ~240, and have a rest pulse of ~54.  I've just started
>doing a recumbent bike for about 30 minute sessions, keeping
>my pulse at around 155, three times a week.  Also, after lifting
>I've been doing the same for 20 minutes, in addition to a very
>easy (pulse 120-130) 10 minutes before lifting to get the blood
>flowing.
>

As a matter fact, I have recently increased the cardiovascular
and aerobic parts of my workout by running.  I find that my
energy level, although I'm not winded or anything, nor do I ache
at all, is terribly low and I feel a bit "out of sorts".  Maybe
I'm getting old?  Or maybe my electrolytes or sugar level is
depleted?  Or is this fairly normal?  

I suspected age because I have, a few years ago, run 8-15 miles
without much problem outside of sore knees (small tracks).

Today I lifted first, then ran, and I felt completely crappy
instead of relaxed, as I normally do after a workout.
And I had a bit of a headache.  Quite strange for me after
a workout, even when I workout to exhaustion on every exercise
and stop only as long as absolutely necessary.

Any general suggestions?


GMS
From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: More on aminos
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:10:53 GMT
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Originator: stgprao@xing

In article <1992Aug12.132546.6484@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>
>In a previous article, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) says:
>
>>I've been concerned about this too. All that I know onthe subject, is that
>>eating certain foods together you get a "complete protein". Like eating
>>beans with rice for example.
>>But I've always wondered, how much rice do you eat with a given amount of
>>beans? 
>
>	Rule of thumb: equal portions of beans and rice/corn.	

I my my strict vegan days I used to get a craving for one of the other
some days.  Perhaps a subsconscious way of maintaining balance.  But if
one is out of balance enough to develop a craving, then something may be
wrong with a diet.  This is only anecdotal, not scientific.
From: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Rollerblades
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:42:25 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug18.134131.6950@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>Try posting in rec.skate. The questions you are asking get asked and
>answered in rec.skate on a regular basis.
>
>If your site doesn't get rec.skate, post again, and I'll answer for
>you, since in-line skating is my sport.
   
Sure, that's why you're so anxious to help newcomers.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek)
Subject: Re: Fitness Thoughts
Organization: Good place for a disclaimer
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:00:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.123046.10333@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) writes:
[in regard to lifting weights]
>
>... but it does make your
>muscles more efficient at burning fat, which assists overall fat reduction.

Strength training does not stress fat burning pathways.  It doesn't 
particularly stress aerobic pathways unless relatively light weights for
many reps are used.  Why would weight training improve fat efficiency,
unless the movement was carried out continuously for 20 minutes? (I keep
reading this on the net.)  That would be at least 200 reps.
-- 
And if your hand or foot offend you,         Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
  Cut it off, lad, and be whole;
But play the man, stand up and end you,
  When your sickness is your soul.           AE Housman
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: wilson@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (David Wilson)
Subject: Sex testing (was Re: Drug use at the olympics)
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:10:27 GMT

In article <brian.713544561@thor> brian@thor.scs.uiuc.edu (Brian Eugene Ackerson) writes:
>>As an interesting aside, it was mentioned during one of the
>>equestrian events that Princess Anne was the only Olympic athlete
>>ever to be exempted from having to take a drug test.  That ...
>
>     She was also the only female athlete not to get a sex test.  (I can
>hear the comments now...)

I vaguely recall the era when sex testing began.  Wasn't the impetus
East German women who didn't look entirely like women?  It seems to me
that the public wasn't much aware of steroids back then, and I was
wondering if it was actually steroids, not chromosomes, that were the
problem?  Can someone with more knowledge of Olympic history tell me
if there have been any cases where (allegedly) female competitors have
been nailed by the chromosome testing?

Dave Wilson
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 07:51:20 EDT
From: <EWN1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: recumbent exercise bikes

I'm sure this has been discussed to death in this newsgroup, so could
someone who has saved information e-mail it to me?  Why exactly are
recumbent exercise bikes better for you than normal exercise bikes?
(I suspect they would be more comfortable -- I've tried doing 15-20
minute stints on normal exercise bikes and my bottom stays sore for
several days afterwards. :-) )  What are the price ranges for
recumbent exercise bikes?  Is there any particular brand that is better
than other brands?  Any particular style of bike that is better than
others (for example, I know there are normal exercise bikes which get
their resistance from the air by using a fan, sort of; I don't know if
this is better than the traditional type of exercise bike, and I don't
know if you have the choice between the two types when you're looking at
the recumbent type).  Thanks in advance.
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From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: unwilling bodybuilders driven through east hell by aleck alexoupoulus!
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:45:27 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug20.215306.19865@athena.mit.edu> aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.144049.313@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu>, loszewski_im@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>|> In article <1992Aug20.135523.27884@athena.mit.edu>, poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux) writes:
>|> > In article <1992Aug19.230028.14334@oracle.us.oracle.com> hweingra@oracle.UUCP (Howard Weingram) writes:
>|> >>In article <1992Aug19.045058.6873@athena.mit.edu> aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos) writes: 
>|> > hal, not all is lost.  aleck is the karelin of drag racing.  he drives
>|> > like a rabid bat out of hell.  it made for quite a whirlwind experience!
>|> > 
>|> > poo
>|> 
>|> Given the proper set of "wheels", I tend to drive like a drag racer, but I
>|> almost wet myself that night!! :-)
>|> -Rob
>
>Hey Im much calmer now than when I was younger. 
>Besides, g-forces make for good adrenalin surges 
>which make for good pre-workout highs! 
>
>Aleck

nobody needs a fricking pre-workout high at 1 am, for christ's sake!

poo
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Crystalline aminos vs peptide aminos
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:30:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Aug19.053043.10163
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Aug18.115215.302@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>I'm wondering how other bodybuilders out there feel about pure crystalline
>aminos vs. peptide bonded aminos.

Well, "peptide-bonded" aminos generally taste better, because that's
what hamburger, eggs, cheese, milk, tofu, etc. all are.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: The performance tables
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:54:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <riskit-140892084421@47.201.0.36>, Reg Foulkes writes:

>> That's great for your bodyweight.  How are your arms doing?  I'm using
>> 2" diameter 75-pound dumbbells for my concentration curls now.  I'm
>> making progress towards 18" arms and a 50" chest, it looks like
>> both are possible goals.

>   Excellent Chris. What's you secret? I've been curling 65's and 160 with 
> straight bar (multiple sets and reps). Two weeks ago I curled 185 for 3 
> reps, yet my arms are still only 15.6". It seems for me, my body 
> just doesn't what to grow, well at least in the right way. :-) 

How much do you weigh, and how tall are you?  How often do you work
your arms, and what exercises/sets/reps do you typically do?

I almost always start my bicep routine with heavy (70+) concentration
curls for 6+ reps after a light warmup set, and then I drop 10 pounds
for my second set, and then I might keep the weight the same or drop
it further, depending on how I feel.  I might stop there, sometimes I
do one more set.  Then I do four or so sets of relatively light barbell
curls.  If I've worked them intensely enough, I'll get muscle spasms
when I flex my biceps at the end (i.e. involuntary contractions).
That's basically been my bicep workout for the recent past, and I
do this about every 6 days (which is about how long it takes my
biceps to fully recover).

You might be working your biceps too frequently, or you might not be
going high enough in the reps.  185x3 seems quite strong for someone
with only 15.6" arms.  Do you have short arms (people with shorter
arms, like Adam silver, have a leverage advantage and hence can do
more in certain lifts)?  That might explain it; I have rather long
arms.  You should also be careful with your form.  If none of this
sounds like the problem, try dropping the weight by 20% and doing
as many reps as you can.  185x3 will build strength, but not
much size.

Do you have good tricep size?  Most of my size is bicep, but I do have
fair triceps.  If I had triceps to match my biceps, my arms would
be well over 18".
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618

"In a study of schoolboys, an educator discovered a correlation between size
 of feet and quality of handwriting.  The boys with the larger feet were,
 on the average, older."        Wallis & Roberts, _The Nature of Statistics_
From: loszewski_im@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:40:49 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Aug20.135523.27884@athena.mit.edu>, poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux) writes:
> In article <1992Aug19.230028.14334@oracle.us.oracle.com> hweingra@oracle.UUCP (Howard Weingram) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug19.045058.6873@athena.mit.edu> aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos) writes:
>>>As a neutral observor to the unofficial Boston armwrestling and ego 
>>>championships (which Adam won) i must note that at no time did Adam 
>>>inform us of the official armwrestling rules. 
>>>
>>>A hidden camera took a video of Adam using highly suspect technique against his
>>>worthy opponent Ron Cecchini. The tape will be forwarded to the 
>>>maryland Armwrestling Association and their punishment will be 
>>>severe: They'll take away Adams Arwrestling T-shirt! 
>>>
>>>Aleck
>>
>>Wow. And here we thought Adam was just the Karelin of arm wrestling. 
>>The sordid truth is just too much. You've wrecked my faith  in humanity, Aleck.
>>What did he do, body slam him?
>>
> 
> 
> hal, not all is lost.  aleck is the karelin of drag racing.  he drives
> like a rabid bat out of hell.  it made for quite a whirlwind experience!
> 
> poo

Given the proper set of "wheels", I tend to drive like a drag racer, but I
almost wet myself that night!! :-)
-Rob