HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcw@gdwb.oz.au (Rick Whitworth)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: SDTS:  Request for help.
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:04:41 GMT




Can anyone provide info RE the value of SDTS in the utility
industry (water gas power telecom. drainage sewer etc).

Now that SDTS has been accepted as a FIPS in the US, it is to become the
accepted standard for Australia & NZ as well. Previous spatial data
exchange standards in Australia have been designed to serve the needs
of small scale topographic and thematic mapping applications at 'National'
levels. These have been very poor at exchanging detailed 'large scale'
data at cadastral, property, utility levels.

Work is being done by the utility industry to ensure these needs will
be covered in the implementation of SDTS. The standard is so broad that
its application at utility level is far from clear and is expected to be
a large (and expensive) task. The sort of questions being asked by local,
state and national utility agencies are:

.	What are appropriate interpretations for the provisions of Part 1,
	the Logical Specifications, of SDTS as they may apply to needs of
	the utility industry for spatial data models, data quality
	specifications and data transfer formats?

.	How can well can SDTS be tailored to perform transaction updates
	of changes to facility and cadastral data sets to 'clients'?

.	What data elements and their entity, attribute and attribute
	values need to be set up for the utilities that are not
	currently in spatial features as defined in Part 2?

.	What is the role of the interchange standard ISO 8211 (AS3654)
	in the creation of SDTS translators? Has code already been cut?
	Who by? Where?

.	What is involved in creating a data dictionary and profiles that
	will meet data exchange requirements of the utility industry?

.	What is required for a vendor to develop a translator from a
	profile?

.	Can one translator be adapted to cover the requirements of
	different profiles?

.	What is the availability of public domain software and is there
	an opportunity for authorities to collectively contribute to the
	development of profiles and translators?

As convenor for a Utilities Special Interest Group for the State of
Victoria I would be gratefull for any information regarding use of
SDTS by GIS-L subscribers involved in the utility area.

The group is especially interested information or contacts for any
work being done by system vendors (large and small, generic GIS's
LIS's, FIS's 'desktop mapping sytems' or whatever!!) Any information
re intended use of SDTS in a utility area would be a great help.	 


Rick Whitworth			Facilities Information Section
Email:	rcw@gdwb.OZ.AU		Geelong & District Water Board
Phone:	+61 52 262325		61-67 Ryrie St. Geelong
Fax:	+61 52 218236		Victoria 3220 Australia
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From:         Simon Greener <greener@SOL.SURV.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: DR DOS and ARC/INFO....
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              "P05193@prime-a.plymouth.ac.uk" at Aug 27, 92 10:21 am

Wieslaw,

Australian Newprint Mills here in Tasmania have always run pcARC/INFO (
including 3.4D) under DR DOS for a number of years. They swear by it and
I don't think they've had any problems that I'm aware of. Often most of
the problems occur with the order in which one loads 'high' the various
drivers (particularly network ones).

I hope that helps. Any specific questions e.g. AUOTEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS
files..... let me know.

regards
Simon

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From:         MIT250@MITS.COM.AU
Subject:      NETWORK/RELATIONAL MIGRATION
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Dear GIS-L'er,

I am after any information/papers/books/contacts regarding the transfer of a
NETWORK database model into a RELATIONAL database model.

Please reply....
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From:         George Benwell <GBenwell@GANDALF.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject:      Re: French Cultural Exchange program and GIS
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Dear French Netter,


I am interested in hearing from anyone involved in GIS/LIS in France.

There is a France/New Zealand exchange program which involves Cooperative
Activities.

The University's Spatial Information Research Centre is interested in
cooperative research in spatial information with French researchers.

If anyone is interested could they please contact me directly over email
or by FAX.  There is some urgency in this as the closing date is next week.

Thank you



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University of Otago
PO Box 56
Dunedin
NEW ZEALAND
email:  benwell@otago.ac.nz
Phone:  +64 3 479 8300
Fax:    +64 3 479 8311
Home:   +64 3 474 0412
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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: Data on ICA conference in Cologne, anyone?

To Martin Feuchtwanger:

1) time schedules:
- 3.-9.5.93 = 16th ICA Conference at Cologne
- 3.-5.5.93 = 42nd German Conference on Cartography at Cologne
- 5.-8.5.93 = 2nd Geotechnica International Fair and Congress on Geosciences at
               Cologne.

2) date for abstracts:
- was June 1st, 1993

3) costs
- about 650.- DM (students ~200.-DM)

4) ICA Program
- Maps for knowledge representation
- Maps for action and movement
- Maps for development and planning
  (more detailed information available from
     16th ICA Congress Cologne 1993
     c/o AKM Congress Service
         Clarastr. 57
         CH-4005 BASEL

5)  Geotechnica Program
- Using natural resources
- Aquisition of information
- Renewal and recycling
- Environmental protection
- Environmental policy and concepts

6) Map exhibitions
- more info from Dr.Zoegner (Berlin), Fax: +49-30-266.28.14

Latest info from KN, June 1992:
- about 125 papers in 3 parallel sections are planned.

Frank Hoffmann,
TU Dresden
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From:         "Nader M. Soubra" <NMSOUBRA@SUVM.BITNET>

Subject: Job Search

To GIS employers.  I am seeking a job which requires expertise in
GIS and Environmental Science.  I have a Master in Applied Geography
(major fields of study included: GIS, Planning, and Environmental
Management).  The PhD in Environmental Science will be completed
in December of 1992; (major fields of study included: GIS,
Environmental Management, Communications, and Policy).

Offers are accepted for the US and overseas.

Respond by Email or by mail to:
Nader M. Soubra
1509 Grant Blvd. Apt. 2w
Syracuse, NY  13208
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From: anne@cco.caltech.edu (Anneliese Lilje)
Subject: Re: Arc, X, and emulators (was Sun Arc/Info..PC)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:31:48 GMT

In article <9208311453.AA11015@gis.MIT.EDU> Rob Smyser <smyser@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> writes:
>
>Anne Lilje at CalTech, myself at MIT, and others have been trying to
>use
>known working X server solutions with Arcinfo 6.* and having a hell of
>a time of
>it.  I totally understand her tone of frustration.  Not everyone owns
>or wants
>Suns, which seems to be the stock answer for all incompatibilities.
>Fooey.
>Part of the problem is that X server solutions that work for
>_everything_ else,
>fail with Arc.
>
>Here are two instances from my personal experience.  Hummingbird's
>eXceedW (a
>Microsoft Windows based server) works with everything on the planet
>except
>Arcinfo.  Turns out from a conversation with a chap in Australia that

Unfortunately, (or fortunately) we have not had to use this yet...
althought there are plenty of Windows fans here at Caltech.

>Apple's MacX (in a IIsi with 5M real RAM and something like 11M virtual
>memory)
>would not run Arc6 in the server mode where the Finder is the window
>manager.
>Running MacX in rooted color window mode, and running the
>OpenLookWindowManager
>(olwm) from the workstation inside that window, did work.

We have encountered this.
It was easy to "work around" but we shouldn't have to.

>ESRI needs to take the responsibility to make it successful.  ESRI
>needs to have
>an answer, not _the_ answer, about working Arc client-PC X server
>setups.
>Preferably several.
>
>	Rob Smyser
>	Manager, Computer Resource Laboratories
>	MIT School of Architecture and Planning
>	smyser@athena.mit.edu	617-253-3535

Rob, I will agree with you here. I think that ESRI,however, has made
a good step 
plunging into the X world. It is LONG overdue. We have also encountered
some trouble with certain X-terminal that should be quite compatible.
Everything else runs on it 'cept ARC/INFO. 

It may be that the technical staff at ESRI does not have access to 
a wide variety of the more common hardware that is out here in the
real world (except SUN). I don't know.

anne
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From:         ANDY HARVEY <HARVEY@AC.DAL.CA>
Subject:      Calculation of Distance from UTM Grid

Can someone provide me a formula to calculate (approximate) distance
using UTM co-ordinates?

Many Thanks for any help.

Andy Harvey
ac.dal.ca
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From:         "Theodore B. Samsel" <tbsamsel@DG11SVARMD.ER.USGS.GOV>
Subject:      Any word on VISTAPRO?
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  I recently saw a review of an interactive GIS/surface modeling
SW package called VISTAPRO, put out by Virtual Reality Laboratory.
It seems to be a possible educational tool at the beginner's level.
(Don't ask me to define beginner, I use the term broadly).
  Has anyone had any firsthand experience with this critter? Can you
provide your own surfaces and if so what resolution and file format
must they be?
  regards,
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`~~~~
Ted Samsel.......TBSAMSEL@QVARSA.ER.USGS.GOV..(use this!)
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From: greg@monty.b17b.ingr.com (Greg Montllor)
Subject: Re: Neural Nets applied to GIS?
Organization: Intergraph Corp
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:14:33 GMT

In article <27AUG199213170171@apsicc.aps.edu>, einhorn@apsicc.aps.edu
 (The Einhorn Family) writes:
|> Has anybody used neural networks to examine remote sensing images
|> and map layers in a GIS (Geographical Information System)?  We are
|> hoping to use them to find archaeolgical sites, but any application
|> to GIS problems is of interest.

At the University of Texas at Tyler, in 1989 and 1990, we developed an general
purpose neural network system.  On a grant from Cray Research, we built CANS
(Cray Artifical Neural System), then used it for two test applications.  

One application was remote sensing analysis.  Each input to a back-propagation
network equated to a spectral band.  The outputs were classifications such as
water, sand, forest .....  The technique seemed to be promising but, at that 
time, inefficient.  Where things have progressed in the last two years, I do
not know.

BTW, the other application for our CANS was to recognize proteins.  I was the
research assistant for this system, and was much less involved in the remote
sensing side.  (Seeing as I am now in mapping, rather than biochemistry, it is
rather ironic.)

If you are interested, you might contact:

      George Whitson or Arun Kulkarni 
     at
      Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
      Univ of Texas at Tyler,
      3700 University Blvd
      Tyler, TX 75701

Sorry, I don't have their email addresses.  

-- 
 Gregory Montllor   Mapping Sciences / System Integration & Implementation    
 mailstop IW17B1    Intergraph Corp.  Huntsville, Alabama  35894-0001 
 (205) 730-7249     greg@monty.b17b.ingr.com    or   ingr!b17b!monty!greg
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From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK>
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Chip,
The clue is in the Operating Field ID field of the HDR1 record of your
labelled tape (and I think you are lucky to have a labelled tape of that
vintage ...)

The OS is RSTS/E, a DEC PDP-11 operating system.

The tape label sequence is 'standard', so a modern OS 'should' be able to
handle it ...


Good Luck,

Peter Halls,
University of York


PJH1@UK.AC.YORK    or t'other way about
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From:         RA185013@HKPCC.HKP.HK
Subject:      Arc/Info sites in Sri Lanka or India?
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Dear all,

My client, a senior geological engineer in Geotechnical Engineering Office of
the Hong Kong Government, will go to Sri Lanka and India for
his holiday in the coming three months. He want to visit some Arc/Info
sites there. If you know any of them, please send directly me the contact
person and fax no.

In my client's office, a marine information system using
Arc/Info running on both PC and SUN SPARC platform was setup for their
engineer application. Hence, he will interest in geological and
geotechnical or related application using Arc/Info in those sites.

Thomas Lee
GIS Specialist
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From:         hernani chaves <HERNANI@BRUERJ.BITNET>
Subject:      geological crosssection software

Subject:      Re: Geologic profile software
from:         "Hernani A. F. Chaves" <HERNANI@BRUERJ.BITNET>

>> Does anyone out there in net land know of good software for making
>> Geological profiles, crossections, fence diagrams, etc. ?
>> I'm  interested in products that run on either PC's or
>> unix workstations.

In the PC world, commercially the software  Geosoft Mapping System,
availkable from GEOSOFT appears to do what
you are looking for.  In the UNIX world, equivalent software
developed by PGW, may attend  what you are looking for and curently runs
on the SUN platform.
       Both compnies may be contact from the address below. I also will be
pleased to give more information about these applications.

GEOSOFT INC.
SUIT 500
204 RICHMOND ST.
TORONTO CANADA
M5V 1V6

VOICE (416)971-7700
FAX   (416)971-2050

for information
you may contact
CHRITIE WEBB at
70302.3041@CompuServe.com

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From:         sfreundsch@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA
Subject:      Re: Universal use of GIS
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>Just my CDN$0.02 worth,
>
>Chris Hermansen                     Timberline Forest Inventory Consltants


Don't worry folks, that's only worth about $0.015 U.S. (after exchange
fees)  ;)!

(sorry Chris, I've just been dyin' to do that) ;)!



Scott Freundschuh
Memorial University of Newfoundland (the other end of Canada - which
                                     end, I won't say...)
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From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Re: Point in country routine?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:44:23 GMT

An efficient point-in-polygon routine (of which this is a case) can be
constructed in only a few lines of code.
-- 
Duane F. Marble			       E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.osu.edu
Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213
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From:         lloyds@CSIS.DIT.CSIRO.AU
Subject:      Re: GIS for Marketing applications
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Mike,

You might like to look at my OzGIS program, which has some support for marketing
(retail) applications. Im about to release a new version, so look for an
 announcement on the net in a few days time.

Articles seem to be all over the place, but nowhere in particular.

You could look a a couple of recent GIS Worlds - they are trying to get into the
business market.

American Demographics has some stuff - they have a book of case studies.

If you can find the agent for the Atlas Mapping system in NZ, they have a
book on mapping that theyll give you - it endorses their product of course.

Lloyd Simons
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From:         "Dan_G.Brown" <16852DGB@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      GIS timeline?

Do you know where I might find a published collation of important dates in the
development of GIS technology?  I sort of remember seeing something like this
but I don't remember where.  A reference of 10 years old or so would be ok.

Respond by e-mail.  I'll post relevant responses, if any.

Dan Brown
Michigan State University
16852dgb@msu
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From:         Bob Swett <XELAJU@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RS6000 POWERstation 220 and ARC/INFO

We are considering the purchase of a POWERserver 220 of the IBM RS6000 family.
This is IBM's entry level machine at 6.5 MFLOPS and 25.9 SPECmarks (whatever
those figures signify).  We will use the machine primarily with workstation
ARC/INFO. Up to this point we have been a PC ARC/INFO shop using a '486 33mhz
machine.

I am writing to the list in order to query its collective wisdom and
experience. Specifically, I was wondering if anyone uses the POWERstation 220
with workstation ARC/INFO and, if so, what is their level of satisfaction
(we will have get a machine with 32mb of ram and 1gb of hard drive)?  Has
anyone experienced any particular problems with the system?  Lastly, does
anyone Have any second hand knowledge that may help us in making our decision?

I appreciate your responses.      Email:  XELAJU@NERVM (University of Florida
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From: lingling@wam.umd.edu (Lisa Wolfisch Nyman)
Subject: Re: GIS FTP sites
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:01:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.020815.17480@slate.mines.colorado.edu> cogs1@slate.mines.colorado.edu (THOEN WILLIAM ) writes:
>In article <9208312340.AA03235@tjhsst> nurban@TJHSST.VAK12ED.EDU (Nathan Urban) writes:
>>I'm looking for FTP sites for GIS data; references to FTP sites
>>with any kind of GIS data are welcome, but I would especially
>
>Way back in May, I put a list together of ftp sites for earth scientists.
>Its name is 'internet.resources.earth.sci'.  

FYI, an abridged version of this list will appear in the upcoming
second version of the group/lis FAQ list.

-- 
Lisa Wolfisch Nyman         "Life is too short to wear ugly underwear."
lingling@wor.umd.edu                    
Just remember, geographers do it in places unknown to the general public.
New from Dweeb Publishers: Memoirs of a Workstation Widow, Oh the Agony of It
From: esri!zoro!u0977@UUNET.UU.NET (07880414 Xiabo - Nsp Project)
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Thank you very much for the infomation. I will pass it along.

Xiaobo Zhang
xzhang@esri.com
ESRI
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