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From: vamg6792@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mtufruti)
Subject: UPI: Kenyan students briefly occupy Moscow embassy
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:34:39 GMT


	MOSCOW (UPI) -- Kenyan students briefly occupied their country's
embassy grounds Tuesday to press demands that the Nairobi government
supplement the meager living stipends they get from Russia.
	The students have been camped out in front of the embassy for three
weeks, and they said they broke into the grounds early Tuesday because
diplomats are refusing to properly represent them to the government in
Nairobi.
	After a brief meeting in which the charge d'affaires showed them a
letter saying the Kenyan government had no money to give them, Russian
police entered the compound and carried the students outside by force,
the students said.
	There were no arrests and no injuries reported.
	``We have been on the streets for so long, and no results,'' said
Evanson Kamau, who recently graduated from Baku University with a degree
in international law. ``We had to change our tactics. Lessons are
starting soon and the problem should be solved.''
	Embassy officials refused to comment on the situation, but Margaret
Munywoki, the wife of the charge d'affaires who lives next door to the
compound, confirmed that the students had briefly occupied the embassy
grounds.
	Several dozen students have been sleeping on the sidewalk near the
embassy for three weeks, with signs that read ``How long are we going to
suffer,'' and ``Our diplomats are hiding from us.'' Some have begun
taking handouts from Russians to eat.
	``Today one of them (diplomats) came with a brand new Volvo,'' one of
the student protesters said. ``We aren't asking for much, one Mercedes
Benz, we'll divide it up among the 100 of us and use the money to eat.''
	African students, brought to the former Soviet Union to study on
Soviet government scholarships, receive monthly stipends between 300 and
400 rubles ($2 to $2.65) from the Russian government for food and other
expenses.
	With economic reforms and high inflation, the student stipend is now
well below the official minimum wage of 900 rubles ($6), which itself is
a fraction of what is considered a realistic subsistence income.
Students say their stipends are spent in one quick trip to the market or
can buy about eight meals in the university cafeteria.
	On the advice of the Russian Foreign Ministry, other countries with
students in the former Soviet have begun supplementing the living
expenses of their students that once were picked up by the Moscow
government.
	Demonstrations by students from other African countries won
commitments of financial help from their governments. The Kenyans said
they are the only foreign students in the former Soviet Union expected
to survive on the old Russian stipends.
	Kamau said Kenyan Embassy officials have failed to help and the
students resorted to their demonstrations to get their message to the
government in Nairobi.
	``We can't live on the stipend,'' Kamau said. ``But we don't have the
money to go home.''
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Experiences from Kenya and Tanzania
From: Amos.Omondi@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Amos Omondi)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:36:55 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.african
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.

In article <JWA.92Aug18010213@vipunen.hut.fi> jwa@vipunen.hut.fi (Jyrki J Wahlstedt) writes:
>  It just came to mind that there might be some racist
>  attitudes amongst the africans (just like when you arrive at Nairobi
>  Kenyatta Airport and you have to look up at the person who checks your
>  passport and sits about two meters above the floor).
>

Funny you should say that.  I have observed that whenever one of the many 
blacks travelling through that airport approaches the passport counter, 
they magically add 4 feet to their height and do not need to look up at the 
immigration official.  But don't be too hard on the Kenyans; the above 
method of expressing racist attitudes seems to have found a place at many 
aiports all over the world.



Newsgroups: apc.reg.safrica,soc.culture.african,sanet.talk.politics
From: femibyte@athena.mit.edu (Olufemi G Anthony)
Subject: Re: CRAP FROM UNIV. CAPE TOWN
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:45:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.151142.10792@ucthpx.uct.ac.za> gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:
>smalagodi@igc.org writes: 
>
>[stuff about media deleted]
>
>..
>  
>: Peacenet readers beware. Examine any or all messages coming from Gavan at
>: UCT in
>: the reg.safrica forum. If you find any support for the anti-apartheid
>: movement or
>: Black people in general, prove me wrong.
>
>I'm flattered. I aim to displease, and to be as politically incorrect
>as possible.
>
>: This forum is useless and should be disbanded if it is going to be
>: dominated
>: by this rubbish.
>
>Where the "this" is self-referential.
>
>It won't be disbanded, I shall continue to post, and you will in
>all probability crawl back into the woodwork. 
>
>Gavan Tredoux
>UCT

All unbiased and unbigoted readers of this net should have realized by now
that Gavan and his cohorts are a subgroup within this newsgroup. They
have "redneck" conversations between themselves and it is best to leave
them in their world of fantasy where white domination will continue
forever. They are in fact, members of the same "broederbond"; to use the
language of the oppressor. It is an unfortunate fact that this medium of
communication, i.e. over the net allows even rednecks to express their
views, much to the distaste of the majority of enlightened users of this
newsgroup. It is best to leave these throwbacks and advocates of a racist
ideaology that caused misery to millions of S.Africans to themselves. 
Just ignore their postings...

Femi.


P.S. Just when will you join the AWB, Gavan, or are you already a member?
     Maybe you can take over from Terre Blanche, he was "caught with his
     pants down !!"
     
     "Viva Afrikans, Viva le broederbond" - Just so you can masturbate and
     salivate on it, my dear Gavan.










Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux)
Subject: Re: Freedom of Expression
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 16:36:08 GMT
Organization: University of Cape Town
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

laurie@iosys.UUCP (laurie butgereit) writes:
: One could only hope that if and when there is a New South Africa, that
: Freedom of Expression would be protected and that the residents of a
: New South Africa would be able to say what they wanted (with the 
: exception of yelling FIRE in a crowded theatre ;-)
: 
: But, alas, it isn't to be.
: 
: When rugby fans burst into the singing of Die Stem and the waving of
: South African flags, the ANC shows its true colours and threatens the
: future of rugby tours.  Singing Die Stem during a one minute of silence
: in rememberance of those who have died in the violence in South Africa
: is no more wrong than chanting the Koran during a call for the Lord's
: Prayer in a Christian Church.  It is, at most, out of place and rude.
: 
: Obviously, the ANC believes it is perfectly acceptable for their followers
: to burn the South African flag but it not acceptable for more conservative
: South Africans to wave the flag.

Apparently the ANC's story is now that it objects to the playing of the
anthem over the loudspeakers, authorized by Louis Luyt, bigwig in Rugby
Admin and Ruler of Ellis Park, although they found singing during the
minutes silence insensitive, or words to that effect, but conceded the right 
of the crowd to do so.

The minutes silence "for all the victims of unrest" was bullied out of
the rugby board under duress, as was the promise not to play Die Stem or
fly the current flag.

Democracy, as usual, means power here. I see the phrase "the majority" making 
its appearance again. 

Naturally, the people who play the game, and watch it, make up the supporter
clubs and hold the season and other tickets, should be left to their own
devices. To sing what they please, fly any flag they please, wear an emblem
of their choice and have the opportunity to manage their own consciences.
The same goes for all other aspects of life here. Banish the imposition of
national symbols, the naming of things after the objects of personality
cults, and all other forms of dictatorship. They can sing Die Stem at rugby,
and `Nkosi' at soccer. Seems a natural and easy solution.

That is freedom. It is not the same thing as power. This is something the
ANC has little understanding of, and little regard for.

Gavan Tredoux
UCT

Newsgroups: apc.reg.safrica,soc.culture.african,sanet.talk.politics
From: femibyte@athena.mit.edu (Olufemi G Anthony)
Subject: Re: CRAP FROM UNIV. CAPE TOWN
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:13:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.172933.29040@ucthpx.uct.ac.za> trdgav01@ucthpx.uct.ac.za writes:
>pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za (Pieter Vermeulen) writes:
>
>: Hey, there is no way we would have allowed Gavan into the Broederbond!
>: The guy speaks english. He doesn't know what a koeksister is. He most
>: probably does not even own a safari suit. Get real man!
>
>I *do* know what a koeksister is. I'm wearing one right now.
>I always thought a safari suit was a libel case held in the bushveld.
>
>: >P.S. Just when will you join the AWB, Gavan, or are you already a member?
>
>: And he is not blond either.
>
>But I have blue eyes. And I goose-step quite well.
>
>------Gavan Tredoux---------------------- 
>Dept Mathematics, Dept Philosophy 
>University of Cape Town, Rondebosch 7700


Well, there you go. You qualify, Gavan.

Femi.
From: ccfj@hippo.ru.ac.za (F. Jacot Guillarmod)
Subject: Re: ANC's Torture Chief Named
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:51:03 GMT

In <scott.713803591@concave> scott@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Scott Hazelhurst) writes:

>  The report, to be submitted to Mandela next year is expected
                                               ^^^^
					       week

Just to correct a typo... unless the Weekly Mail printed in the Tvl is 
somehow different to the one we get down here.

-- 
  F.F. Jacot Guillarmod     PO  Box 94     \        |     ccfj@hippo.ru.ac.za
  Computing Centre       Grahamstown 6140   \      /     +27 461 22023 xt 284
  Rhodes University        South Africa      ;___*/   33 18 30 S | 26 31 45 E
From: scott@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Scott Hazelhurst)
Newsgroups: sanet.talk.politics,soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Freedom of Expression
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:45:53 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, University of the Witwatersrand

In <1992Aug18.163608.4153@ucthpx.uct.ac.za> gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:
>Apparently the ANC's story is now that it objects to the playing of the
>anthem over the loudspeakers, authorized by Louis Luyt, bigwig in Rugby
>Admin and Ruler of Ellis Park, although they found singing during the
>minutes silence insensitive, or words to that effect, but conceded the right 
>of the crowd to do so.
>The minutes silence "for all the victims of unrest" was bullied out of
>the rugby board under duress, as was the promise not to play Die Stem or
>fly the current flag.
>Democracy, as usual, means power here. I see the phrase "the majority" making 
>its appearance again. 
>Naturally, the people who play the game, and watch it, make up the supporter
>clubs and hold the season and other tickets, should be left to their own
>devices. To sing what they please, fly any flag they please, wear an emblem
>of their choice and have the opportunity to manage their own consciences.

And the ANC has the right to protest about anything they like too.
If they want to hold marches, or call upon the Australians to
leave that's their right too. I think that the action of the
TRFU and the white crowd was _incredibly_ insensitive and shows
no sign of any reconciliation. Yes, they had the right to do what
they did but that doesn't mean that their actions need approval.
The ANC -- particularly Steve Tshewte -- have been bending over
backwards to get South African sport (particularly white-dominated
sport) back into international sport and I think that they have
shown from their side a willingness to compromise and show reconciliation.

The action on Saturday was a political action. Anyone reading the
front page of Rapport or seeing Koos van der Merwe on TV on
Sunday would have seen the oozing self-satisfaction about the
action. The action shows what many whites think. Politics is
about changing political views of people. For this reason I
hope the Australian tour gets called off -- not for vindictiveness
(although someone like Tshete must feel really cheesed off) but
to show white South Africans that compromise is necessary in the
future.



>The same goes for all other aspects of life here. Banish the imposition of
>national symbols, the naming of things after the objects of personality
>cults, and all other forms of dictatorship.

Now this is something I agree with.

A

--

----Scott Hazelhurst-------------------------scott@concave.cs.wits.ac.za---
Department of Computer Science, University of the Witwatersrand
2050 Wits, South Africa         phone 27(11)716-3309 fax 27(11)403-1926
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:32 PDT
Subject: Somalia: Big Fax AttacK!!
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1471700071:000:1262
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Aug 18 18:32:00 1992


Bernhard has arranged another free fax number through SUNET.  This goes to
James Kunder, director of the US Office of Foreign Disaster Assistance.

the number is:

    James_Kunder@009f12026475269.fax.sunet.se


It's clear that Internet people are having great success with these free faxes!
Getting those planes in the air and, let's hope, keeping them going!
A number of people on IGC --peacenet, etc.--have found that the free
fax number doesn't work for them with the ordinary faxing method. We've
talked to support about this.  They say it should work, and we hope we'll
be using the free system soon.

Peter Mwaniki asked about the Republican Convention.  The fax number for
the general manager of the convention is 713-737-1096.  A very earnest
tone is in order here, since some of the administration, I fear, will be
looking for a chance to call us "Somalia wackos," or some other term to
belittle us and our concerns.

Finally, the French minister of health and humanitarian affairs, who recently
visited Somalia and was absolutely horrorstruck, has clearly influenced the
French government.  NPR says France will deliver food (I believe the amount
was 2000 tons) from Djibouti this week.  Djibout is right next to Somalia--
food should get there fast.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: barnhart@netcom.com (Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: IPS:/CORRECTION/: DEBT: Third World bor
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 15:26:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Reply-To: barnhart@netcom.com

Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: /CORRECTION/: DEBT: Third World borrowing to repay...


att editors:   please make the following correction to the item:
'debt: third world borrowing to repay', moved earlier from london.

the third paragraph of the second take should read:

''it's not our intention to walk away from third world debt,''
said a spokesperson for lloyd's bank. ''the only way we are going
to get our money, and for problem countries to improve their
credit rating, is through debt restructuring.''

note the corrected version substituting ''not'' for ''now''


-- 
Aaron (Barnhart@netcom.com) -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:27 PDT
Subject: Re: SOMALIA: What you and I can do
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug11.103702.6911@ac.dal.ca:907249743:cdp:1471700063:000:309
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Aug 14 22:27:00 1992


Is there any way you can get more names and addresses of African UN
ambassadors, members of the Security Council, others to phone and fax?
Such information could be immensely valuable.  I will be looking for it,
but if others will also look the work will go faster, and we can put
that much pressure on.
Bye.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: gds@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit)
Subject: Re: IPS:SOUTH AFRICA: SPORTING PRIDE BOUGHT
Reply-To: gds@cs.uct.ac.za
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 12:56:05 GMT

>Inter Press Service 1992, reports:
>Area: Africa, west
               ^^^^  ????????
>Title: SOUTH AFRICA: SPORTING PRIDE BOUGHT DOWN TO EARTH BY BARCELONA


>johannesburg, aug 14 (ips/gavin evans) -- south africa's olympic
>squad touched down in johannesburg this week to a hearty welcome
>from some 1,o00 well-wishers, while much of the rest of the
>country was in mourning over a dismal barcelona performance.

Wonder where this reporter lives, must be out in Koekenaap.  No one around
my part of the world is in mourning - at least not about Barcelona.

>isolation ended, the world would be taken by storm. the
>perception that the country's runners, swimmers and players were
>among the best in the world was pervasive, to say the least.

Again, must amongst the hoards in Koekenaap where this perception was
pervasive.  Most people that I heard on this subject thought South Africa
MIGHT win 4 or 5 medals if we are very lucky.  I was convinced we weren't
going to get any.

>as a result barcelona '92 has been a sobering -- perhaps even
>humiliating -- experience.

sobering ... mmm... maybe, humiliating, nah, never.

>the view that africa (by which is meant the rest of africa)
>didn't really count was widespread. 

Where does this person come from??  Maybe (s)he lives in the put of
Putsonderwater.  What is widespread? 10 people?  Boy, what objective
reporting.

>it is now sinking in that the trick is more funds, and more
>energy, needs to be thrown into development programmes, from
>which future olympic champions may well be drawn. if this
>happens, south africa may have more than elana meyer,
>wayne ferreira and peter williams to boast about in 1996.

Now that I can agree with.

>the only 10 black
>squad members also says a lot about sport development and
>selection across racial lines.

Sport development, yes, selection? no... sorry, it should be yes.  If 
selection was only on merit, it would have been 9 as at least one table
tennis player was selected for her colour.
-- 
Riel Smit,  Computer Science                              gds@cs.uct.ac.za
University of Cape Town                      gds%cs.uct.ac.za@rain.psg.com
From: barnhart@netcom.com (Aaron Barnhart)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: IPS:TRADE: NAMIBIA AND ZAMBIA PLAN JOIN
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:20:27 GMT
Reply-To: barnhart@netcom.com
Organization: Netcom

opyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Reference: Trade & Finance
Title: TRADE: NAMIBIA AND ZAMBIA PLAN JOINT COMMISSION


lusaka, aug 11 (ips) -- the recent shooting of a 14-year-old
zambian boy by namibian police has spurred authorities in the
two neighbouring states to speed up plans for economic
cooperation.

the july shooting of the youth was the latest in a series of
border skirmishes over the past few months during which six
zambians have been gunned down along the common border with
namibia, according to zambia police spokesperson bartholomew
jere.

the boy was shot as he attempted to smuggle maize meal,
currently in short supply in zambia, across the zambezi river.

following the incident, governments of the two countries have
resolved to set up a joint permanent commission to enhance
bilateral trade and stop cross-border smuggling of scarce
commodities on either side.

''the two governments are currently studying a draft
agreement to end illegal cross-border trade and will, hopefully,
come up with an effective mechanism to enhance economic
cooperation'', namibia's high commissioner to zambia, charles
shihepo, said here tuesday.

the proposal for a joint permanent commission has been under
consideration since 1990 when namibia attained independence, but
little progress has been made towards its realisation.

''we cannot say for sure when the agreement will be signed,
but it will have to be soon'', shihepo added.

according to the police spokesperson, a commission has been
formed by the two governments to investigate the spate of
killings along the border, blamed on illegal trade and movement
between the two countries.

it is believed that zambians smuggle essential commodities
out of namibia while cattle rustlers sneak into zambia from the
namibian side. (end/ips/jm/ar/92)

-- 
Aaron (Barnhart@netcom.com) -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
From: barnhart@netcom.com (Aaron Barnhart)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: IPS:ZIMBABWE: COPING WITH DEFORESTATION
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:43:06 GMT
Reply-To: barnhart@netcom.com
Organization: Netcom

Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Area: North America
Reference: Africa, southern; Environment
Title: ZIMBABWE: COPING WITH DEFORESTATION


harare, aug 14 (ips/jide adebayo)-- zimbabwe's rural
afforestation programme, launched more than 10 years ago, faces
its greatest danger -- the worst drought in the country's living
memory.

the drought has almost destroyed the nation's forest
resources.

isaac makoni, extension services manager at the zimbabwean
forest commission, told ips that each year, about 10,000
hectares of forest is lost in the country. less than 10 percent
of the trees are replaced.

stung into action by the imminent danger which the forest
destruction poses to the nation's survival as an agricultural
producer, government has echoed the message of land and
forest conservation through its tree planting campaign.

''every zimbabwean must plant a tree or more annually'',
makoni told a workshop on environmental challenges in harare
last week.

the afforestation programme has resulted in the setting up of
72 central nurseries which yield about 17 million tree seedlings
per annum.

makoni said 10 million of the seedlings were sold to the
people at subsidised prices. a large chunk of the young plants
are distributed for demonstration purposes by forest extension
workers.

today the programme has been widened to cater for the
fledging agro-forestry industry.

mike ndudzo, an official in the nation's finance and economic
planning and development unit, told ips that about 5 million
u.s. dollars had been spent on the second phase of the scheme.

the third phase, he said, would see the sprouting of 15,400
additional woodlots countrywide. the afforestation programme
will be accelerated as the drought bites harder, he said.

statistics at the nation's forestry commission reveal that 32
million u.s. dollars is now committed to a forest and
environmenta protection project scheduled to be completed in
1997.

the project is being jointly financed by the world bank,
danish international development agency, arab bank of economic
development, the zimbabwean government, the forest commission
and the project beneficiaries. (end/ips/ja/oa/92)

-- 
Aaron (Barnhart@netcom.com) -- posting from Evanston, Illinois
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
From: faa@artemis.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Life in Cameroon
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:39:05 GMT

Cameroon, a small country the size of California, is one of the most
scenic and culturally diverse countries in the world. It is a thrill to
visit Cameroon. Try it if you can.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.african