From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Pack/Skins/Eagles Tiebreakers ...
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:29:07 GMT


I think we've got our answer here ... *sigh* ... and I vaguely recall this one,
although it's really strange ...

In article 20598@cbnewsk.cb.att.com,  lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.131444.5636@walter.cray.com> dpp@cray.com writes:
>>>>Where did I go wrong?  Or is it them?
>I checked out the Sporting News Football Guide. To my suprise,
>head-to-head is NOT the #1 tiebreaker in a 3-way tie. I bet none
>of the newspaper even lists this tiebreaker:
>
>  Basically, when there is a three way tie, when two of the teams are
>  from the same division, the teams from the same division have to
>  be sorted out first. The higher ranked team will be two-way
>  tie-broken with the team from the other division.
>
>In that scenario, Green Bay will never face Washington in a
>a tie-breaking situation, because from the NFC East, Philly has to 
>be tie-broken with Green Bay first.
>
>>Here is what the St. Paul Pioneer Press has to say about the three-way
>>tiebreaker between the Eagles, Packers, and Redskins:
>>
>>"Green Bay clinches with a victory Sunday and a Philadephia loss based on
>>tiebreaker advantage over Philadelphia.  In a three-way tie, the Eagles'
>>better division record would eliminate the Redskins, and the Packers'
>>victory over the Eagles would give them a seeding edge."
>>
>>Don't ask me why division record enters the picture here.  I always
>>thought for a three-way tie among teams in different divisions, it was
>>head-to-head, then conference record, then common opponents.  Using
>>division record for a three-way tie between non-divisional teams
>>doesn't make sense to me.
>
>Let's say all three teams finish 10-6, the tie-breaking procedure
>would be:
>
>    Philly vs Washington, Philly ranked ahead of Washington in NFC East
>    Green Bay vs Philly, Green Bay clinches #5 seed
>    Philly vs Washington, Philly clinches #6 seed
>
>In other words, the three way comparison procedure doesn't apply
>at all. I bet three way tie-breaking is only applicable when all
>three teams are from different divisions.
>
>Does this tie-breaking procedure make sense? In a sense, yes.
>A team with a superior division tie-breaker cannot lose out in
>an inferior conference tie-breaker. For example, teams A & B
>are in the same division, team C in a different division.
>Say, these are the record:
>
>        overall    division    conference
>   A     10-6        7-1          7-5
>   B     10-6        4-4          8-4
>   C     10-6    irrelevant       6-6
>
>Without first the sorting out the ranking within the division, B
>would have won the tie-breaker, just because the intrusion of C
>force them to bypass a higher-priority tie-breaker (division record).
>
>A more logical way is to make sure any conference rankings wouldn't
>violate the division ranking.
>
>-- 
>                                          Edward Lor
>                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
>                                          


Bob - well, that should take care of that ... *sigh*

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