From: rjw@merlin.cvs.rochester.edu (Robert Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Distressed Damsel needs C Compiler!
Keywords: Good, cheap, or both!
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:41:53 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

[Dianne Ferrans writes:]
>
>I am looking for someplace to get a simple C-compiler (no fancy
>window stuff, I'm talking stdio, strings, and math.h!) for my
>Amiga?  And, what's this "DICE" all about?

Well, most of the fancy window stuff, etc., is handled by Amiga 
libraries, not compiler libraries, and any compiler worth the name
should be able to access those libraries.  Basically, what that 
means is, you'll get the fancy stuff anyway.

>Either:
>
>1.  Where can I get an o.k. one for free?
>2.  Where can I get a decent one cheap??
>3.  If I buy one mainstream, what is recommended? (I subscribe to
>    AMIGA world, so reference something in there)

From the "List of Amiga Compilers, Assemblers, Interpreters" (Which I didn't
post this month since I was on vacation, but will on Sept. 1):
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Matthew Dillon (dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US):
DICE (C) 2.06.40, two versions available. The freely distributable version
can be found on BBSs, networks, fish disks, and other places and has no
shareware obligation.  The registered version is fully self contained and
has additional capabilities (including the Commodore includes and full
amiga.lib), costing $50 through 1992 to register.  This buys you an initial
snail mailing of 3 disks and one free update later on, usually another
mailing of 3 disks, as well as the ability to update beyond that for a
small fee.  Please allow 3 weeks for delivery.

csss@scheme.cs.ubc.ca:
Manx Aztec C (latest version is 5.2a) from Manx Software Systems
	They can be reached on BIX (they have a conference and 2 listings
	areas) as manx.ts, their support BBS (909) 542-2793, and I think
	Compuserve (but I don't have their id there...so I'm not sure).
	I assume Jeff Davis is in charge of development/maintenance as
	he's the one fielding questions on BIX.

	I believe it's still sold in two versions:
	 - developer system (which includes source level debugger)
	 - and a scaled down version (ie lacks some utilities)
	 last suggested prices that I recall are $299, and $199 respectively.
	Complete source to the libraries is available for $75 (license fee).

	This version is very stable, and I highly recommend it.  The
	intermediate assembly is real 680x0 assembly language source
	unlike SAS.  Oh and the latest release had the 37.1 version of 
	the 2.04 includes.

Steve Hawtin (steve@geosys.co.uk):
NorthC 1.3 from Steve Hawtin (I had to tell you about that :-)  )
Implementation of K&R C, a complete environament including C
compiler, A68K assembler from C Gibbs, Blink, make and a full C
function library.  NorthC is supplied with a large ammount of
documentation and a disk of example programs.  The program is
distributed as charityware with $25 donation to the Spastics
charity of your choice.  Has problems running under 2.04. 
Version 1.3 was released Dec 1990 and NorthC is well overdue for
a new release.  The program can be found on fish disks, PD
libraries and BBSs, especially in the UK. 

Steve Hawtin (steve@geosys.co.uk):
Small C
Shareware.
Available on Fish Disks.
A very small subset of C with no library, only useful to see how 
to build a compiler.


Steve Hawtin (steve@geosys.co.uk):
Sozobon C
Shareware.
Available on Fish Disks.
A port of a compiler from the ST, needs some work before you
will get anything out of it.  Useful as a source for a C
function library. 

Doug Walker (walker@unx.sas.com):
SAS/C (Formerly Lattice C) from SAS Institute, Inc.  The latest version is
5.10B.  Reach SAS Institute on BIX as sas.c or at (919)677-8000.  Suggested
retail price is US$300; student discount rate is US$150.  Package comes
with C compiler, global optimizer, libraries, BLINK overlay linker,
source-level debugger, assembler, editor, options-setting program,
object module disassembler, object module librarian, make utility,
AmigaDOS 1.3 and 2.0 header files, and various text utilities (such as
GREP, DIFF, etc.).  Supports inline code taking advantage of the 68020,
68030 and 68040, as well as the 68881 and 68882 math coprocessors.
Free technical support is provided at (919)677-8009 or via mail or FAX.

[EDITOR'S NOTE: SAS/C 6.0 came out while I was on vacation.  Can 
someone write me an update to the SAS/C article above?]

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>Apologies for any posting errors, .etc....

No rpoblem.    :-)

-Robert
 rjw@cvs.rochester.edu