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From: dang@well.sf.ca.us (Dan Goodin)
Subject: Re: maze daze
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:52:52 GMT

In <1993Jan23.232155.29081@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> BRIAN SKALINDER <skalinde@kenyon.edu> writes:

>Hey, Hey, Hey (remember Fat Albert?).  I was just wondering if
>anyone else out there gets into a daze while listening to Maze.
>While listening to it, I visualize myself making my way through
>a maze, running sometimes, walking others, depending on the tempo,
>feeling the tension build and recede, as I frantically try to
>get out.  It frightened me at first, like I absolutely HAD to get
>out, a severe phobia of not knowing where I am (is there a name 
>for this phobia?).  I don't know if this happens to others, but when I 
>listen to Maze, I _cannot_ prevent it from happening.  I tried at
>first, but failed, and now revel in the daze.  I find it absolutely
>exhilerating now.


>	--Skal   skalinde@kenyon.edu


Funny you mention this.  When I heard the song my first few times, I was
never satisfied with  "ba ba ba ba ba!" ending.  It just didn't seem
logical.  Then one night in a slightly altered state I too fell into a daze
while listening to Maze.  With that same riff that Page plays going through
my head, I pictured myself trapped in a maze.  When that ending finally
came, I felt like I had finally found the passage out and was finally free.
I'm afraid I'm not expressing myself well, I dunno.
From: cs199ab@sdcc5.ucsd.edu (Phanatic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: West Coast Tour Dates
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:21:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Okay netters here are CONFIRMED Nor. Cal. Phish Dates:

Santa Cruz (I don't know exactly where) March 25
The Warfield March 26 & 27 ($16.50 each)

That's it so far - all three shows are General Admission and will
all go on sale at BASS on Feb. 14

AND ALL THREE OF THESE SHOWS ARE DURING MY SPRING BREAK!!!!
It don't get any better than that (Well, they could play in my
backyard....)

Hope to see everyone there...
					Mark

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jencell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jay William Encell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: GROVEL,short & sweet
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:55:03 GMT
Reply-To: jencell@cwis.unomaha.edu
Organization: The Internet

12-7-92 1st Ave. in Minniapolis was a GROUND-BREAKING show for me 
and copies of this show would mean a lot. I hope I didn't take up 
too much of your time with this grovel. Thanx

                      "J"
                                Details at/to:jencell@cwis.unomaha.edu

                   Pharewell...
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: rift?????
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:50:20 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Shelly replies to Stephen Bennett...
>>also.....i was just wondering, i always label `ride captain ride' as 
>>`mystery ship' which i'm pretty sure it is called....
>
>I think so, too, but I'm not 100% sure.
>It's by Blues Image (that part I'm sure of!)

"Ride Captain Ride" - Blues Image

A one-shot single from a band that was never heard from again since,
but I've long felt the song was *way* cool.  Admittedly, though, I
remember digging this during my childhood daze, so nostalgia may
be eminent.:-}  


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From: Rich Fromm 23-Jan-1993 0127 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: re: noteworthy
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:32:51 GMT

"LAUGHING AT MYSELF" <leaf@kenyon.edu> writes:

P.S.  How do I get in touch with Noteworthy to order their catalog?

1-800-648-7972

peace

- r
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: GRYMBLE GRUMBLE <williama@kenyon.edu>
Subject: Roseland net gatherings
Reply-To: williama@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:33:42 GMT

Why Hi!,

        I am from Big BAd Brooklyn and I know the city pretty well.
I could easily find a place for a real cool net gathering before both
Roseland shows. The village would be great but it is kinda far, by foot
at least but we could always all hop on a subway to catch the show.
Anyway, tomorrow or today, whenever, I will list some places around
the area and their potential as possible sites for gatherings. Then we
can decide on one and VOILA! Looking forward to seeing everyone in
the rotten apple!
                           dre.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jkrm_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Joe Karam)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: show at Geneva is sold out
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:14:57 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I called tixmaster at noon today and all of the tix for the show at Hobart
William Smith College are gone!  :-(
It'll be cool to see them in Rochester at least!  Hope to see ya all there!

Joe K.
-- 
Joe Karam		   Internet Address:  jkrm_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
PO Box 274957
University of Rochester		
Rochester, NY 14627	     
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: molly rinaldi <RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: a request..(please read)
Reply-To: RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:58:30 GMT

Date sent:  22-JAN-1993 15:40:13 
hi all  :)
     i am in my final semester of college, this means i will be off the .
net in may.  i may also be out of the country within the next year because 
i have applied for the peace corps.  due to the necessity for me to 
concentrate solely (mostly:) on school this semester i will miss the spring 
tour.  i have made almost every tour since the fall of 90.  so i have 
decided to work on a tape collection.
   i have no tapes.  i have always spent my energy and money getting to 
shows.  my hope is that i can get copies of the show i have seen.  the .net 
is really the only way for me to do this, my hope is that i will be able to 
find these shows before i am off to where ever the great icculus decides i 
should be.  i have NO tapes.  a friend of mine has a few tapes he said i 
could trade with, i would get you a list.  otherwise, i will send blanks 
and postage.
     the shows i have seen include:
Fall   90                    UMASS AMHERST    RADICAL STUDENT UNION
SUM    91                    HAMPTON BEACH CASINO,  HAMPTON BEACH, NH
11/?/91                      BARRE, VT
12/?/91                      SUNY PLATTSBURGH, NY
12/31/91                     WORCHESTER, MA
3/?/92                       KEENE, NH
3/?/92                       BURLINGTON, VT
3/?/92                       WASHINGTON, DC       LISNER AUD.
5/?/92                       BOSTON, MA          ORPHEUM
SUM   92                     HORDE AT JONES BEACH
11/?/92                      COLCHESTER, VT        ST. MIKES
11/?/92                      ITHACA, NY          CORNELL
11/?/92                      BINGHAMTON, NY   
11/30/92                     SPRINGFIELD, MA
11/31/92                     BOSTON, MA

   i would really appriciate any help.  please e-mail me if you can.
thanks in advance
...................................peace though music...........molly
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: John Greene <jg@titan.ucs.umass.edu>
Subject: Party invitation and yeP! update
Reply-To: jg@titan.ucs.umass.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:12:49 GMT


Hi friends,

  First of all, I'd like to take this oppotunity to invite you all to the
2nd yeP! house party which will take place on Saturday, February 6, 1993
at the yeP! house at 18 Gulf Road in Pelham at 8pm.  The theme for this one
is "We hate New York".  Can you guess why?

  For those of you who were at our first party, you know what to expect -- for
you others.....  yeP! will play 2 sets of rockin' tunes for your boogiein'
pleasure, and there will be plenty of refreshments on hand.  If you've never
heard us before, we play "Unonventional Rock" -- rock/blues/raggae/funk with
our own unique weirdness... yeP!ness if you will.

  Next, we recorded a 5 song EP over January!  It's called "A Crack in the
Jamb" and will be available from the band, at Al-Bum's in Amherst, and at
shows, for $5 soon.

  If you need information on the party, just drop a line:

  E-mail correspondence:   John Greene: jg@titan.ucs.umass.edu
                           Jack Carson: carson@cs.umass.edu
                         Scott Kaufman: scottk@titan.ucs.umass.edu

   Phone correspondence:      yeP!line: (413) 549-3832

              Snailmail:            yeP!
                              PSD Prductions
                                 Box 2442
                                Amherst, MA
                                01004-2442

  Directions were posted to the net for the first party (on Halloween), so I
won't waste the bandwith unless there is high demand.

  Future information (like show dates) will be posted on the net, but inter-
mitent updates will be mailed to those of you on the yeP! E-mail list.  This
is an update-only list (i.e. no band discussion) maintained by the band as
a service to you.  To join, send e-mail to me with "yeP!" somewhere in the
title and your name will be added.

  That's it for now.  We plan to play gigs all over New England this Spring,
so keep your eyes open.  Thanks, and see ya on the 6th!


-- 
-jg (jg@titan.ucs.umass.edu)

"Love, love, love, just love yourself, like no one else..."
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Keith Maclin <maclin@brahms.udel.edu>
Subject: Lookin' for Phresh Phish
Reply-To: maclin@brahms.udel.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:19:27 GMT


Well, I think it's time to expand my collection a bit, so if anyone out there
wants to trade, please e-mail me.  I have 150+ hours of Phish, including 
12-31-92 (thanks Mark!) and a lot of west-coast spring '92 shows.  

Hope to see you all here in Delaware on the 13th!!

---Doug
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jeg5s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (John Ellington Godard)
Subject: Re: Popularity
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:05:51 GMT
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Normal Bias Taping - NOT!
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:13:35 -0500
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1jkckmINNerq@hp-col.col.hp.com> rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern) writes:
>Jay Flemma <jflemma@mailbox.syr.edu> writes:
>>        Let me start this post with my usual disclaimer that if you tape
>>    only for yourself, do whatever the heck you like. 
>>    
>>        However, if you care about your reputation in the taping community
>>    and want to insure that your own collection improves its sound quality,
>>    you'll avoid Normal bias tapes PERIOD.
>
>I've taken this one step further:  use only Metal tapes !!
>
>I've been using either Maxell MX or Sony Metal-Select.  The Sony's are
>still for sale at J&R music world for $1.99 tape, and the Maxell can
>often be had for the same price.  Why are folks still using XLII or XLIIS
>when you can be using quality Metal tapes for almost the same price??

Be careful with metal tapes... you can get those Sony Metal-ES tapes for really
cheap some places (I have seen them as low as $1.75).  While they certainly
are metal tapes the shells are crap.  The tapes rattle around inside which
can't possibly be productive for aligning the tape against your tape head.

I generally buy XLII-S because they have good shells.  I don't think there's
much difference between the tape itself on II's and II-S's. The Sony Metal
Selects seem to have pretty good shells, but they definitely aren't as
good as the II-S shells. 

>Of course, I like dolby C (and dbx), so what do I know .... :-)

(envision Bart's reaction when he found out that his dead aunt looks like
Aunt Patty last week on the simpsons).... dolby C.   I hope I won't
start a dolby war again, but as always, I advise against using dolby for
any tape that is ever going to be played back on a different tape deck.
I think it is great for masters (dbx is even better)... but in my dolby
experimental phase a couple years ago ("The Eclectic Dolby Flaccid Test")
it scared the bejeebers out of me how different tape decks deal with it
so differently...
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@access.digex.com
From: h7l@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: rides needed from ithaca to roch&bloomsberg shows
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:35:24 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

hey all. short and simple: anyone in the ithaca area driving to the rochester
and/or bloomsberg shows? me and my freind are cute and friendly and also need a
ride. we would looooooove to help out with gas costs, etc...



thanks for any responses.
sthanks for any help!
sarah 
H7L@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
From: Benjamin.M.Brainard@dartmouth.edu (Benjamin M. Brainard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: The Phish Rebellion
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:50:50 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

<stuff deleted>
I'd respond, but she's probably not reading this, for fear of becoming
like....us. ;-) ;-)
From: sf04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (SEAN FOLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: new on the net
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:35:39 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

This is great...a whole board devoted to Phish.  I am hoping someone out there
can help a fellow PhisHead out.  Does anyone have a place that two people
could chash at after the Delaware show?  Also...although I have enjoyed Phish
for about two years I have almost no live shows on tape.  I recently saw Phish
in New Haven and Boston on NYE and I NEED some good quality shows to start up
a collection.  Is there anyone out there willing to help out a non-digest
person to aquire some shows?

Oh yeah...someone mentioned a Phish.net ski trip.  How  about meeting in VT or
CO?  Anyone?

--->sf04@Lehigh.edu
    Sean Foley




    
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From: molly rinaldi <RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: gamehendge
Reply-To: RINA0243@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:28:45 GMT

Date sent:  21-JAN-1993 16:04:54 
i was just hanging around doing nothing today, when thoughts of gamehendge 
drifted into my brain...........

POSSUM--  the definition says to feign death.  in the song the lyric goes:
     i was riding down the road one day
     someone hit a possum....
   ...the road was his end 
      his end was the road
      so they say
  who ever is singing the song did not hit the possum, they saw him on the 
side of the road and assumed he was dead.  "so they say"  tells us that he 
probably isn't dead.  is it icculus singing the song?
is the song telling us that the story is far from over?   

COLONEL FORBIN--  why did the colonel get the book for aaron after he saw 
evil in him?  why would he give him the book?  

ICCULUS--  if the mockingbird retrieved the book so easily, why didn't 
icculus help the lizards get the book back before?  why is he getting such 
amusement by watching all that goes on below him?

when are we going to be given more info on gamehendge?? do you think trey 
knows whats going to happen? or is he still figuring it out himself?

anyone with a paper on gamehendge i would like a copy if you could send me 
one.
peace................................................................molly
From: darkmage@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Dark Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: oh yeah...
Date: 19 Jan 93 04:01:01 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616


sorry for the bandwidth but...

Matt Laurence: please mail me regarding the status of the new phishnet 
shirts.


Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy!
Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul
DM
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jeffrey Gordon Day <jgday@papaya.wustl.edu>
Subject: personal to mark
Reply-To: jgday@papaya.wustl.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:37:40 GMT


mark, 

I tried the new address you sent me and it still doesn't work. I guess you'll 
have to send me your home address or phone# so I can get in touch.
                         
jeff
jgday@papaya.wustl.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:32:04 EST
From: Joseph Dresnok III <JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: still looking, DC grovel

Howdy
I'm still looking for the extras for the DC Lisner show.
If you can help me out, I'll do my best to help you out.
  joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 23-Jan-1993 0151 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: oops
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:55:18 GMT

oh yeah, i forgot...

)

- r
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Eric Budke <budkee@unvax.union.edu>
Subject: GA at Mid Hudson
Reply-To: budkee@unvax.union.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:27:57 GMT

Just got my tickets tonight and noticed they were General Admission.
Yahoo!  Anybody know if this show sold out.
-- 
 Eric Budke    budkee@unvax.union.edu      Union College Box 241
"One word sums up probably the             Schenectady NY 12308
 responsibility of any Vice President      518-386-4198
 and that one word is 'to be prepared'." -ex VP Dan Quayle
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rob Hodil <ST701616@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Tube
Reply-To: ST701616@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:32:16 GMT

Someone posted that they thought Tube is actually called "Tomb".  Nope.  On
my copy of the 9/13/90 Wetlands debut of the tune, it is clearly introduced
as Tube, and the final lyrics are "So stupendous, living in this tube".  Hope
this clears things up,

                                      Rob
 "It all would be so crystal-clear"
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Quote Clarification
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:35:22 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Glenn Russell writes...
>>              "Live dirt up a side track carted is a putrid evil"
>>     is a palindrome quote from Howard Levy of the Flecktones.  I saw 
>>     him use this just before they played "UFO TOFU" in West Palm Beach
>>     last October.  Unfortunately, if recent rumors from the merchandise
>>     person from Widespread Panic are correct, he is no longer with the 
>>     band.
>
>Can anyone else confirm this rumour?  CatPhish, you out there?  I know
>Howards been doin' other stuff lately, like with Nordine and Grisman, but
>has he left the Flecktones?  

Unfortunately, yes:  as read on email and the Well.:-(  Howard has indeed
left to do his own solo projects, and for the Flecktones, it's a big
loss (of course, it would be a loss if Victor or Ray left too).


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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: Re: Mike's cactus????
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:11:10 GMT

In article <26JAN93.22164762@vax.clarku.edu> jsarna@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>In a previous article, 891406b@axe.acadiau.ca (STEPHEN BENNETT) wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> hey phriends
>>     i  just remember noticing on Mike's bass amp there was a picture of 
>>a dessert(sp?) and a cactus....i asked one of the roadies what the picture 
>>was about and he wasn't sure.....while looking at some phab pictures Andrew 
>>sent me i noticed this picture has been on his amp for over a year now....
>>anyone know the story about this photo?
>>just wonderin'
>>flipper
>
>according to the latest phish newsletter, "cactus" was mike's nickname at
>one point.
>	-jeremy

I believe it was Spring '91 when Fishman always introduced Mike as Mr.
Catcus when he was doing his band introductions...

And there's the Harry Hood from Port Chester where Trey says, "Cactus"
as Mike takes a solo...

I always wondered if he had the cactus because that was his nickname,
or that was his nickname because he had the cactus.  

-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- (Who kicked a tumbleweed this morning)
       (dsteinbe@emmy.nmsu.edu)
**********************************************************************
*"Swim with the cactus and      *"I can't believe I'm a junior and a *
* Float with the stone.         * film major, when all I really      *
* I try to convey what          * wanted in this life was to marry a *
* She's trying to condone."     * lobsterman and cook fish."         *
* -Phish                        * -a letter from Christie Searing    *
**********************************************************************




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From: "With the oil of Aphrodite and the dust from the Grand Wazoo." <diamond@kenyon.edu>
Subject: Dre's slaying.
Reply-To: diamond@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:07:34 GMT

Being one of the poor souls Dre is trying to help out I think I need to say a
few words.  Think about the simplicity of what he is saying.  All he is doing
is trying to open a few eyes and get people's attention so that they know that
there are people like me looking for tix.  His motives are genuine and he did
get many people's attention.  Being a New Yorker and knowing what it's like
trying to get a ticket (especially at the show) I can vouch that people really
don't care about anything except a quick buck.  All Dre is saying is that
people here on the net are not like that, and I truly believe that he thinks 
that we as a whole are different.  I believe that he wrote that message because
he fears that there may be some netters who would do the New York thing and sell
their tickets for insane prices.  I can understand people taking offence to
Dre's remarks, but its really just because he cares and wants to keep the
cohesiveness of the net together.  Growing up in New York and knowing how
vicious people can be about most anything I can appreciate how great the net is
and what a great service it provides so many of us who care about Phish.  Cut
Dre a break.  Anyone who reads the net regularly knows he's a good guy who
helps others out whenever he can.  Still looking for tix to both Roseland
shows, please help me out.-Ev

Diamond@kenyon.edu  
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Bower John R <jbower@venus.haverford.edu>
Subject: He's baaaaack...
Reply-To: jbower@venus.haverford.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:17:09 GMT

Hey everybody,
	I'm back, and I'd like to say welcome back to all the other returning
DACK's who missed January.  I do also have some substance to this post (I'm
sure you're all thrilled :-).

	First, I've already announced this on the horde.net, but Widespread
Panic is playing at Haverford College  (check my address and you'll understand
my overwhelming joy) on Feb 5.  It's free (for me, but not for you, HA!! :-).
Anyway, anyone who's gonna be in the Philly area that night, drop me a line 
and I'll let ya know what's going on on campus that night outside the show.

	Next, I'm back in the tape trading business (happy happy, trade trade).
I'm loking for a couple of specific things.  I need one kind soul who taped
the New Year's show from the radio to get in touch with me.  Also, I'm looking
for low gen soundboards from 1988.  I've got plenty of tapes to trade.  (about
60 Phish, 170 Dead, and 100
others including Widespread, Clapton, JGB, NPC, and others).  Any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks a lot.

	Finally, for all you beginners out there, look out for the beginner
tape offer II, coming soon to a .net near you...

Later,
jb