HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Unix utilities
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:43:38 GMT
Organization: A.T.W.W.

In article <COHERENT%92091920124774@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>Is there any thing like the Norton Unix utilities for Coherent?
>Especially a un-erase option....

There's a fairly simple alternative that you can make for yourself. 
Create either a shell program or alias for the the rm command.  The idea
here is that when you (or your users) issue an rm resquest, instead of it
being done by the real rm, your alias or shell program will instead move
the file to a temporary "garbage can".  The garbage can is simply a directory
on a filesystem where you can spare some space.  The analogy here is exactly
like that of throwing away something in your own garbage can, if you decide
you want it back, you can always dig through your garbage until the trashman
actually takes it away.  The trash man in this analogy is the "find" program
set to run out of cron with appropriate arguments set to look in the garbage
directory for files that are X number of days or older and to actually remove
them.

I would recommend you use an alias to the rm command so as not to disturb
any other system type programs that may be calling rm.  The other beauty
of using the alias is that if you decide "I know what I'm doing, I want
to really delete that file" you can escape your alias by simply giving the
full path to the file (ie, calling /bin/rm instead of just "rm").

If you decide you can't use an alias, then the shell program will be inserted
in place of /bin/rm.  You'll first move the real rm program to a new name
like /bin/RM.  The shell "rm" will then do the mv to your garbage can. 
When you need to really remove a file now, you must do it by calling "RM"
instead.

A nice touch to add to either the alias or the shell program is to run the
"mv" portion of the operation in the background.  This makes things a bit
nicer when you go to "delete" a lot of files.  If mv isn't running in the
background, you may have to wait while it finishes moving all of those
files . . .
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From: LECTRICAMISH@DELPHI.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Zmodem
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:36:43 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Oh, i have another question, when using the zmodem package from mwcbbs
directory of raven, is it possible to dial up (from coherent) and use
rz to recieve files, or sz or send them?  I"ve called to other unix sites
and just used "sz file.exe" and had my term program download it, but how
would you redirect the input and output to the com port?  I've tried using
"rz < /dev/com3l > /dev/com3l" and almost any other combinations, but it
just gets "timeout" errors, so something isn't quiet right. thanks.
From: gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Apologies re: InterMeta course
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:09:08 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY !
It is with regret that I perform this task. Dr. Gelson V. Gomes. a
professor of the University of Parana, Brazil, has exceeded this
privileges and announced a eletronic course:

> ____________________________________________________________
>        Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
>                      The InterMeta Course
> ____________________________________________________________

I must apologize for this flagrant breach of network etiquette. Please
be aware that Dr. Gelson had no right to do so, since this is against
the rules of our ANSP network, and also against the Bitnet rules.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY!
I will not discuss what his motivations were. But his account has been
revoked, and there will be no such course through my network.

Please write by normal mail, to:
-> Gelson V. Gomes
-> 358, R. Alvaro Andrade - ap.1201
-> Curitiba PR BRAZIL 80610-240
to get more information on his objectives. He may want to give the
course by normal mail.  :-)

With regards,
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: tin
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 10:54:12 GMT

Kenji Rikitake (kenji@limmax.rd.macrofield.or.jp) wrote:
: Robert Chalmers (d10590@tanus.oz.au) wrote:
: : The last of many problems is disappearing articles? When I select w to write
[...]
: 
: I am currently porting Japanese versions of tin (1.1 PL4/PL5/PL6...) and
: I am also wondering about who should own tin (root? news?), because setuid
: and setgid fail if I setuid/setgid tin to news.

I'm running tin without setuid/setgid bits on.

: And I also faced with .article disapperance problem mentioned above.

It's because tin can't execute inews to post the article, you need
cnews or wnews.
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From: dfilip@colorne.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: redirection of stderr in 4.0 crontab
Keywords: cron
Date: 23 Sep 92 21:12:17 GMT
Distribution: world
Summary: What is the problem with cron ?
Organization: ColorNet Information Systems

Roger Barth writes :

(stuff deleted)

>...  I am still not able to
>use the new crontabs because of the spawning of many processes that
>I and others have reported before.

I have, happily, not seen this problem, but would love to know how to
avoid bumping into it in the future ! I am using the following entries in
/usr/spool/cron/crontabs/uucp without a problem (although I was expecting
(fearing) to see many cron's and a bunch of 'inode busy' errors) :

00	03	*	*	1-5	sh /usr/lib/uucp/uumvlog 5
00	05,22	*	*	*	/usr/lib/uucp/uucico -sjpradley

This does the trick, and even sends me mail when there is a problem (i.e.,
one day at 22:00 I was dialed out the modem, and got a mail message stating
that my uucico had an error ... have a nice day !).

Since the new crontabs seem to work in at least some cases, has anyone
pinpointed then the problems occur ?

Regards,

Dave.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: marcelo@deadzone.princeton.edu (Marcelo Gallardo)
Subject: Re: faq for nn6.4.16???
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:55:19 GMT
Organization: DeadZone * A/UX 3.0 SVR2 * 609-275-1833


	nn has it's own newsgroup, which if I'm not mistaken, just
	posted their long FAQ. I can't remember the exact name of the
	group but I beleive it's news.software.nn.

	Just incase anyone is interested, they also released 2 patches
	within the past few months which brings it to 6.4.18.

	Marcelo -

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From: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org (Terry Bell N8HSP)
Reply-To: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: help with (un)compress
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:2:55 GMT
Organization: N8HSP Amateur Radio

LECTRICAMISH@DELPHI.COM once wrote....
>> Is it possible that the file is corrupted?  Do you have an
>> error correcting modem?
>
>Yeah, i have an error correcting modem, the file size is 75305. seems
>strange that 3 of the 4 files are like that, don't know what would cause it.

I am having the same trouble. I get a core dump when UNcompressing.

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From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: ksh functions from crontab
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:51:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

I'm having problems with a function that is imbeded in a script that's 
called from crontab for root.  

If I have the following line in the crontab for user root:

30 00 * * * /usr/bin/ksh /usr/local/bin/atest weekly



and in the /usr/local/bin/atest I have:

======start script /usr/local/bin/atest========
function afunct {
print "ksh version $KSH_VERSION"
print "param is $1"
}

afunct
======end script==========================

The command will fail, generating a error mail message.

However, if I run it from shell level, it runs ok (in the following manner)

	ksh atest weekly

The only way I can get it to run correctly from the crontab entry is
to drop the function identifier altogether; then it runs properly.

The crontab entry is as identified in ksh - scripts pg 759 Coh 4.0.

Any ideas, or is this a bug?

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: ports to 4.0
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 19:20:33 GMT

albani@cadlab.sublink.org (Lanfranco Albani) writes:
: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk) writes:
: 
: [...about ELM...]
: :You can't format them because tbl is needed. I've the user guides here
: :as post script files generated with groff.
: :Right, Configure doesn't run at the moment.
: 
: May one use ksh to run Configure?

No, not as it's distributed, I'm working on it. Also sed is a problem,
which can be avoided with GNU sed. May be I find a workaround so that
Coherent's sed may be used.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Ckermit blanks screen
From: cs.dal.ca!iisat!duncan!root  (David John Murdoch at duncan)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 08:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: djm@duncan.alt.ns.ca (David John Murdoch at duncan)


	Has anyone been using ckermit and have the screen go
blank on them? I connected to a remote site via modem and
the screen went blank and remained blank even after 
disconnection. The cursor remained on the screen and moved
about normally in response to commands but nothing was
written to the screen. 
I'm using four virtual terminals and this happened with
/dev/mono3.

David
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: puting date into a shell variable
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 92 23:25:32 GMT

Timothy E. Buchanan (root@tbucks.com) wrote:
: I want to use today's date in a script. I thought this would work-
: 
: curdate='date'
: echo $curdate
: 
: but I get back the string date, not the output of the command date. I also
: tried using "date" and "exec date". What works and why does this not work?

Use ` (left tick) and not ' (normal tick) and it will work.
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From: mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: replacement for man--zman
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:56:32 GMT
Organization: A.T.W.W.

In article <9209281325.AA00434@bonfire.picard.med.ge.com> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>I am interested in a copy.  Post it or e-mail it.  Please

Sid,

Sent you a shar copy via e-mail.  Please let me know if you don't receive it
within the next several days.  Thanks.

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From: albani@cadlab.sublink.org (Lanfranco Albani)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: unable to compile unzip, help!
Summary: make dies with error 256, cc terminate without *.o
Keywords: unzip make c compiler
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:50:19 GMT
Organization: CAD.LAB S.p.A., Bologna, Italia

I'm trying to compile unzip from COHware2 using Coherent 4.0.1

Make dies with error 256 and no other message.

Try to "make" by hand using a lot of cc -c blabla.c -DUNIX -DZMEM,
and have all the *.o BUT unzip.o
Doing cc -c -DUNIX -DZMEM unzip.c, cc terminate without messages
AND without unzip.o.

Before starting to dig in the code, anyone can tell me where I
fail?

Thank in advance.
Bye, Lanfranco

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From: albani@cadlab.sublink.org (Lanfranco Albani)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: fmt sources
Summary: May I post fmt sources?
Keywords: fmt text formatting
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:54:38 GMT
Organization: CAD.LAB S.p.A., Bologna, Italia

I've found the sources of an "fmt" program, to reformat text.
It compile and run straight with a 'cc -o fmt -VPSTR fmt.c'

This fmt is the one Elvis 1.6 (distributed with 4.0) has as default
for the '=' command...

May I post to this group?  It isn't too big, a bit less than 18Kb.

Bye, Lanfranco

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From: kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Is this a proper email address for questions?
Date: 26 Sep 92 01:09:44 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: The Blues Family

multics@ACM.RPI.EDU (Multics) writes:

> If this is the proper place for questions, I have several.

Please send your questions to "sales@mwc.com".

Thanks

        Kosta
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mnp@grafted.UUCP (MikeP)
Subject: Re: Some Questions about coh.
Keywords: the cock crows at noon. 
Organization: GRAFTED, Central Indiana's Usenet BBS 317-881-4369
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 00:51:34 CST

sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (O.K. I'm Jon) writes:

> I am a potential coherent buyer, & would like to know some things.
> first, i'd also like to get that FAQ, so then maybe i won't have to post
> things like this in the first place.  Oh yeah...is anyone running
> coherent with Stacker on their drive?  i've a 386sx16 w/105MB Quantum
> Drive & stacker...i was wondering if it [Stac] would give it any
> problems.  oh, and is there any academic pricing on this thing? (yes,
> i'm a *very* cheap person).
> 
> 
> (why didn't ASCII have an underline char set?)
> 
> -jon madison
> student and human.
> sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
> (jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu)
> 
> 

Please let me know if you find an educational discount for Coherent.
Thanks, - Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: CNEWS for coherent
From: root@duncan (David John Murdoch at duncan)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:30:47 GMT
Reply-To: djm@duncan.alt.ns.ca (David John Murdoch at duncan)

In article <7s+paym.newman@netcom.com> newman@netcom.com (Charles E Newman) writes:
>
>
>
>         I am having trouble with CNEWS for coherent. It is not recognizing
>some newsgroups in the 'active' file. 

	Can you be more specific? What activity is not recognising the
active file?  What are the symptoms and how have you determined that
the active file is the problem?

Cheers,

David
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon     psychohistorian )
Subject: Re: Dialout/dialin on same com port
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:28:16 GMT

In <1992Sep28.092857.3982@spcvxb.spc.edu> mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:

>I asked this question a while ago, but did not receive any
>responses....
> 
>I want to allow a friend of mine to get his news/mail feed
>from my machine.  I'm having difficulties getting my system
>to dial out and to accept incoming calls on the same com port.
>I'd really apreciate if someone who has gotten such a setup
>to work could tell me what their /etc/ttys and 
>/usr/lib/uucp/L-devices files look like.  At this point, I
>can use the port to dial out OR accept dialing, but not
>both.
> 
>MWC suggested that all I had to do was change the L-devices
>file by removing the "-" and adding "com2r" in its place
>for my ACU device.  This didn't work properly.
> 
>confused....

don't be to confused. i'm running aix on a $100,000+ machine and this
mostly does *not* work. so don't feel to bad. i haven't plyed with 
this yet so i can't help you other than to point out this is a non
trivial matter to have a getty which can reliably function with a 
bi-directional port.

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From: newman@netcom.com (Charles E Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: CNEWS for coherent
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:40:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)




         I am having trouble with CNEWS for coherent. It is not recognizing
some newsgroups in the 'active' file.
From: david@duncan (David John Murdoch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: How Do I Send to QueBBS Usenet news articles from Cnews?
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:19:42 GMT
Reply-To: djm@duncan.alt.ns.ca(David John Murdoch)
Organization: Duncan Computer Centre and Home Brewery


	Has anyone managed to do this? I've tried a variety
of methods including creating a file 'tobbs' in ../newsbin/batch that 
executes Qextpost from sendbatches.

If you have it working could you share the steps to success with me?

Thanks,

David
From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Install Problem with 4.0.1
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:33:02 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

I had a similar problem after I installed a Maxtor 200MB hard drive in
a 386-40 computer with AMI BIOS. I'm not sure if this will fix your problem,
but the solution I found was to change the Bus speed from CLK/3 to CLK/5.
This changed the bus speed from 12MHz to 8MHz and everything started purring
like a kitten. However, I also had intermittent write errors and drive not
ready errors while running DOS 5.

Speaking of hard drives, I've just run into a rather puzzling problem -- not
really a problem, more like a quirk. I originally had Coherent 4.0 installed
on a 386-40 with AMI BIOS and a Quantum 50MB hard drive. However I needed
the extra horsepower for Windows so I decided to swap computers. What I did
was to remove the Quantum 50MB drive from the 386-40 and installed it in
a 386SX system. I also pulled the Quatum 50MB drive out of the 386SX and
installed it in the 386-40. Both drives work great, as do both computers.
In fact, Coherent booted like a charm in its new home and worked without
a hitch for several weeks. This weekend I turned on the computer and noticed
that Coherent started taking significantly longer to boot. As I watched the
screen during the boot process I saw this:

	AT1: TO (I assume this means timeout on hard drive 1?)
	AT1: 306 cyls 4 heads blah blah
	AT0: TO

Then it completes the boot process without further problems. I booted DOS
from a floppy and ran SETUP. What's strange is that the first hard drive
is defined as per the Quantum 50MB drive manual and the second hard drive
is defined as not installed. Where is Coherent finding the second hard drive?
Obviously there isn't one so that explains AT1 TO, or so I think. But why
is it also getting a timeout on the first hard drive?

The system does boot properly and it runs without any problems. I normally
leave Coherent running 'round the clock so I can live with the problem, but
I'd like to solve it if possible. I also checked /etc/rc and don't see any
references to additional hard drives there.

I did install the Maxtor 200MB drive at one point to test the drive to make
sure it works. However, I mounted the drive manually without modifying
any files such as /etc/rc. And this does appear to be about the time these
messages started showing up. But, as I said, I double checked SETUP to make
sure everything is clean.

	-- Greg