Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 11:08:41 EST
From: gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
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Subject: GayNet Digest Volume 11 Issue 14
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.gaynet

In this issue:
                          March on Washington?
                          Mail Delivery Status
                          Mail Delivery Status
                          Mail Delivery Status
                               Phone Sex
                         Univ. of Southern Cal.
                               Tom Hulce
                       After the Ball, continued
                     Queer wins White House lottery
                             KGAY's address
                   NBC to Televise Special on 1/26/93
                         Subscription problems
                         Angelou inaugural poem

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 15:54:10 -0600
From: uhrig@ssc.wisc.edu (NOAH)
Subject: March on Washington?

Could someone post the exact dates of the March on Washington...I always
feel so clueless about WHEN things happen until after they happen...or
until the are within hours of happening...I REFUSE TO MISS THIS...

If anyone can post this, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

SC Noah Uhrig
"UHRIG@ssc.wisc.edu" or "UHRIG2@age.ssc.wisc.edu"

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Date: 24 Jan 1993 16:16:16 GMT
From: "Central Postmaster" <POSTMSTR@CENTRAL.LOC.GOV>
Subject: Mail Delivery Status

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Date: 24 Jan 1993 16:42:16 GMT
From: "Central Postmaster" <POSTMSTR@CENTRAL.LOC.GOV>
Subject: Mail Delivery Status

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Date: 24 Jan 1993 16:20:16 GMT
From: "Central Postmaster" <POSTMSTR@CENTRAL.LOC.GOV>
Subject: Mail Delivery Status

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Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:01:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Phone Sex
From: An Anonymous Sender



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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:52:24 PST
From: Dave Strickler <STRICKLE@VM.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Univ. of Southern Cal.

In response to the anonymous poster regarding the climate at USC:

The frats can be conservative assholes, but the overall climate is quite
receptive.  The library is especially heavily staffed by gays/lesbians.
There is a gay/lesbian staff association.  Your friend need have no
fear.

Dave Strickler
Reference Librarian, USC

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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:55:23 PST
From: Dave Strickler <STRICKLE@VM.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Tom Hulce

A recent list of out famous people included the name of Tom Hulce, of
Amadeus and Animal House fame.  Can anyone confirm?  He's a real
favorite of mine, and I'd like to write him a fan letter if this is
true.

Many thanks.

Dave Strickler, University of Southern California

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Date: 25 Jan 1993 00:09:59 -0500 (EST)
From: COLE@utkvx.utk.edu
Subject: After the Ball, continued
Mime-Version: 1.0

I think this book has an important message in that to change people's
attitudes (a monumental task at least) you must, in essence, pander to
them.  I think we have to consider the audience at which Madsen and Kirk
target their propaganda campaign:  the middle class television viewer.
Which provides the greater impact:  a "straight-looking" (whatever that
is!) male couple who are openly gay on a show such as Knots Landing or
the same couple dressed in drag?  The idea behind the attitude change
which the authors advocate is "slow and steady."  The homosexual community
doesn't stand to gain a lot by shocking the very people who are in a
position to help them (such as voting against things like the Colorado
bill) to the point where they view the whole homosexual lifestyle, at
worst, as abnormal or, at best, as comical.  The idea behind this type
of propaganda campaign is to awaken in the audience similarities between
the gay community and the audience itself.  This end is better served
by using "safe" images of homosexual men and women.  I, too, abhor the
thought that this community must censor itself.  But the nature of
propaganda is unique and if you buy into the plan which the authors
put forth, their method seems only logical.

On the down side, I can't say I agree with the authors' thinking in the
last couple of chapters, what with the return to Greek style man-boy
love.  Just my personal preference, I suppose.

- Richard Cole

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From: murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy)
Subject: Re: Queer wins White House lottery
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:24:43 GMT

Over the course of the day, several gay people identified themselves
as such to President Clinton, as they went through the reception line.
He was generally supportive.
--
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Daniel A. Murphy        Net:         murphy@well.sf.ca.us
San Francisco, CA       GEnie:       D.MURPHY11
U.S.A.                  MCI Mail:    377-7947

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:32 GMT
From: Brian Nunes <0005066380@mcimail.com>
Subject: KGAY's address

For Dan Pinello, and anyone else who is interested...
KGAY, the nation's first all-gay radio superstation, can be reached
via snail-mail at the following address:

KGAY
P.O. Box 9383
Denver, CO 80209.

The station broadcasts on the Galaxy 5 satellite, transponder 6.
-Brian

=Brian Nunes=*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
MCI Mail:  savoirfaire / 506-6380  | savoirfaire@MCIMail.com
USPS:  8206 De Longpre Ave. #10    | VOICE:  +1-213-656-9117
       West Hollywood, CA  90046   |    (message-capable)

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:00:45 EST
From: Cletus Stripling <CSTRIPLI@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      NBC to Televise Special on 1/26/93

I just read in TV Guide that NBC will be showing a special hosted by
Maria Shriver on Gay in the 90's.  It will be televised at 10 pm EST.

Set the VCRs!

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:24:44 -0500 (EST)
From: "Douglass St. Christian" <stchri@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca>
Subject: Subscription problems

Help...

I am trying to resubscribe with my new e-address but nothing seems to happen.

I have unsubbed from my old address [stchri@sscvax.cis.mcmaster.ca] but
still receive the digest at that address and nothing at the address I am
now using.

Can you help?


I should be subbed as stchri@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca, if only
gaynet-request would accept my instructions.......


Helpppppppppppp........

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 07:41:18 -0800
From: Loren Meissner <lmeissne@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Angelou inaugural poem
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>
>	-- Following is the poem delivered by Maya Angelou at
>President Clinton's inauguration:
>	A Rock, a River, a Tree, hosts to species long-since departed, marked
>the mastadon, the dinosaur who left dry tokens of their sojourn here on
>our planet floor. Any broad alarm of their hastening doom is lost in the
>gloom of dust and ages, but today the Rock cries out to us clearly,
>forcefully:
>
>	``Come, you may stand upon my back and face your distant destiny. But
>seek no haven in my shadow; I will give you no hiding place down here.
>You, created only a little lower than the angels, have crouched too long
>in the bruising darkness, have lain too long face down in ignorance,
>your mouths spilling words armed for slaughter.'' The Rock cries out to
>us today: ``You may stand upon me, but do not hide your face.''
>
>	Across the wall of the world, a River sings a beautiful song. It
>says: ``Come, rest here by my side, each of you a bordered country,
>delicate and strangely made, proud, yet thrusting perpetually under
>siege. Your armed struggles for profit have left collars of waste upon
>my shore, currents of debris upon my breast; yet, today I call you to my
>riverside -- If you will study war no more. Come, clad in peace, and I
>will sing the songs the Creator gave to me when I and the Tree and the
>Rock were one, before cynicism was a bloody sear across your brow, and
>when you yet knew you still knew nothing.''
>
>	The River sang and sings on. There is a true yearning to respond to
>the singing River and the wise Rock. So say the Asian, the Hispanic, the
>Jew, the preacher. They all hear the speaking of the Tree. They hear the
>first and last of every Tree speak to humankind today:
>
>	``Come to me, here beside the River. Plant yourself beside the River.
>Each of you, descendant of some passed-on traveler, has been paid for.
>You, who gave me my first name. You, Pawnee, Apache, Seneca. You,
>Cherokee Nation, who rested with me, then, forced on bloody feet, left
>me to the employment of other seekers desperate for gain, starving for
>gold. You, the Turk, the Arab, the Swede, the German, the Eskimo, the
>Scot. You, the Ashanti, the Yoruba, the Crow, bought, sold, stolen,
>arriving on the nightmare, praying for a dream. Here, root yourselves
>beside me. I am that Tree planted by the River which will not be moved.
>
>	``I, the Rock, I, the River, I, the Tree, I am yours. Your passages
>have been paid. Lift up your faces. You have a piercing need for this
>bright morning dawning for you. History, despite its wrenching pain,
>cannot be unlived, but if faced, with courage, need not be lived again.
>Lift up your eyes upon this day breaking for you. Give birth again to
>the dream. Women, children, men, take it into the palms of your hands,
>mold it into the shape of your most private need, sculpt it into the
>image of your most public self. Lift up your hearts. Each new hour holds
>new chances for new beginnings. Do not be wedded forever to fear, yoked
>eternally to brutishness. The horizon leans forward, offering you space
>to place new steps of change.
>
>	``Here, on the pulse of this fine day, you may have the courage to
>look up and out and upon me, the Rock, the River, the Tree, your
>country, no less to Midas than the mendicant, no less to you now than
>the mastadon then. Here, on the pulse of this new day, you may have the
>grace to look up and out and into your sister's eyes and into your
>brother's face, your country, and say simply, very simply, with hope,
>Good morning!''

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