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From: obi@gumby.ocs.com (Kuryan "Obi" Thomas)
Subject: SCSI disk questions.
Reply-To: obi@gumby.ocs.com
Organization: Online Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:46:38 GMT

I have a SPARCstation 1+ with ROM Revision 1.3 running SunOS 4.1.1. I'd
really appreciate answers to a couple questions about SCSI disks.

1. My boot disk is an external Fujitsu M2263A (approx 700MB). It is at
   target 3 (sd0). I can't power up the CPU pizza box and the drive at
   the same time. If I do, I get a console message that the bus is hung,
   and the select light on the drive stays on. I have to switch on all
   my external drives, wait for a few seconds, and then turn on the pizza
   box. Everything is fine in this case, and I'm aware that this is the
   "better" thing to do anyway, but the problem is that as things stand,
   my machine can't auto-boot if the power fails when I'm away.

   I'm guessing the problem is that the PROM isn't giving the Fujitsu
   enough time to get ready before the PROM resets the bus. I looked at
   eeprom(8) and couldn't find anything relevant. Is there something I
   can do to fix this?

2. I have a cheap (cheap, not inexpensive) internal drive from a Mac that
   I'd like to use for /var/spool. I connect it up to one of the internal
   drive bays. The PROM "probe-scsi" command sees it. When I boot, I get
   a message "esp0: Target 2 didn't disconnect after sending COMMAND
   COMPLETE." This drive worked fine in SunOS 4.0.1. What does this
   message mean and why do I get it only in 4.1.1? Is there anything I
   can do about it? The drive has absolutely no jumpers of any kind
   other than three little switches which set the SCSI ID.

Other SCSI devices are a Micropolis 1624 at target 0 (sd3) and an Archive
Viper at target 4 (st0). Thanks for any and all hints/tips/answers, by
email or as postings.
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From: borchert@titania.mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Andreas Borchert)
Subject: Re: Help me with yppasswdd and 4.1.2
Organization: University of Ulm, SAI
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 14:41:01 GMT

In article <THOMAS.TORNBLOM.92Sep3174050@beck.nexus.comm.se>, Thomas.Tornblom@nexus.comm.se (Thomas Tornblom) writes:
> In article <1992Sep2.162732.14695@wuecl.wustl.edu> kevin@rodin.wustl.edu (Kevin Ruland) writes:
> 
> 
>    I can't seem to get rpc.yppasswdd to work correctly.  The symptom is:
>    passwd will change the entry in the passwd input file but the make
>    is not being done.   I know the make isn't being done because the
>    timestamp, passwd.time, is always the old one.  My input files are in
>    /var/etc (non-standard place) and I've started yppasswdd in rc.local
>    with, rpc.yppasswdd /var/etc/passwd -m passwd .  The makefile in
>    /var/yp works correctly by hand (that is DIR is set right).  This is
>    exactly the same setup I used on my old machine running 4.1.1a.
> 
> 
> SunSolve recommends starting the daemon like this:
> 
> /usr/etc/rpc.passwd /var/yp/passwd -nosingle -m passwd

What is the -nosingle option for? It isn't documented on the SunOS 4.1.2
manual page of rpc.passwdd.

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From: jumper@spf.trw.com (Greg Jumper)
Subject: Is anyone running a console between xdm sessions with OW3?
Organization: TRW Sensor Data Processing Center, Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 00:50:06 GMT


If you are successfully running some kind of console tool (xconsole, contool,
etc.) between sessions with "xdm" under OpenWindows 3.0, please let me know
how you got it to work.  I posted to "comp.windows.open-look" and
"comp.windows.x" some time ago, but got no response at all.

In all my attempts, the best I have achieved is a console window which appears
and just as quickly disappears when the login widget appears, which I take to
mean the "xnews" server is resetting, thus killing any existing clients.  This
behavior occurs even when I disable authorization in the server, and
explicitly set the "DisplayManager*.resetForAuth" resource to false.
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From: kevin@rodin.wustl.edu (Kevin Ruland)
Subject: Bug in rpc.yppasswdd in 4.1.2?
Organization: Center for Optimization and Semantic Control, Washington University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:38:48 GMT

I recently had problems getting rpc.yppasswdd running correctly in 4.1.2.
It seems that you must start it up with the entire path name, ie
as /usr/etc/rpc.yppasswdd rather than as only rpc.yppasswdd.  I am
wondering why.  It is not because /usr/etc is not in the proper path
variables because I started it by hand in /usr/etc and /usr/etc is
in the path when rc.local is executed.  Could someone please
check the source and tell me what rpc.yppasswdd does with argv[0]?

Thanks

Kevin Ruland
kevin@rodin.wustl.edu
From: ksk@ksksun.bioc.aecom.yu.edu (Ken Krauter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: # of processes under 4.1.2
Keywords: SUNOS 4.12, kernel, processes
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:41:29 GMT
Reply-To: ksk@ksksun.bioc.aecom.yu.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

I am running 4.1.2 on a Sparc 1+ with 16mb of memory.  The machine is used by no more than 2 people and usually 1 person.
I recently added some programs which run daemons for licensing (FrameMaker, SUNPC, IslandETC) and am already running
CAP6.0 which has 3-4 daemons going constantly.  I now find that when a run more than about 2 programs on top of OpenLook,
the programs crash with an error something like:
Too many procs 
or 
No more procs.

I recently also recompiled my kernel (small_generic with a couple of mods - enabling semiphores).  What is the problem here?  
Does this error message mean that there is a limit on the number of processes for any one user?  If so, can this be reset somewhere?
Is this limited by memory or CPU or software?  Any suggestions would be a help.

ken
From: psikos@erato.csi.forth.gr (Panos Psikos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500 Tapes
Date: 10 Sep 92 07:22:04 GMT
Organization: FORTH - ICS, P.O.Box 1385, Heraklio, Crete, Greece 71110 
       tel: +30(81)221171, 229302 fax: +30(81)229342,3 tlx: 262389 CCI

....Lots of stuff deleted for brevity..

	Here is my $0.02 worth. We have been using an older EXB-8200 for a couple of years and a Contemporary Cybernetics 8500 with compression for the last 6 months. The only difference that I saw between the EXB tapes and the SONY PC-120MP ones is on the Cybernetics drive with compression enabled..The Sony tapes routinely give about 12-13 GB per tape , while with the one Exabyte tape I tried I got approx 18-19 Gb. So I presume there is a difference in the tape quality, which however,in my IMHO, does not justify

 the fact that EXB tapes are about 4 times the price of the Sony ones (at least in Greece)


	Panos
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From: steve@cs.anu.edu.au (Steven Ball)
Subject: Re: Disabling accounts (was: Re: NIS, slave servers...)
Reply-To: steve@cs.anu.edu.au
Organization: Computer Science Department, ANU, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:55:03 GMT

In article 715993948@durras, ivan@durras.anu.edu.au (Ivan Dean) writes:
>This thread has moved off into the area of disabling accounts, which is
>something I have had a bit of experience in.
> [... stuff deleted ...]
>However, running an Xterminal with xdm, or a workstation with xdm, means that
>
>       THEY DON'T NEED  A WORKING SHELL TO USE THE SYSTEM !
>
> [...]To get around the
>problem, you need to modify the standard startup sequence for xdm - we did
>it by running a program called xlogin (see archie for details). xlogin
>was modified to provide a mechanism for noting that an account was
>disabled, and printing out an appropriate message.

I'm the guy who actually set all of this up.  I *did not* modify xlogin to disable
account (I modified for other reasons, but that's another story!  Stay tuned to
comp.windows.x for that :-) - I modified Xsession.  Xsession now looks to see 
if the user has been disabled.  At the moment it does this by looking for a particular 
file in the user's home directory.  This file should also be a shell script.  The script 
is run and its output is piped into a tool that displays it on the display.  Xsession 
then does exit 1.  The user's initial shell is also set to this script, thus disabling 
logins (and they get the message) and ftp access.  I've tested it , and it works.

Of course a really nice feature is that a stewed ant can shoot them self in the foot
by creating this file.  If one really did care about this then you could put the script
in a place inaccessible to users.

Also, this is done in Xsession rather than Xstartup since Xstartup runs as root.
Xsession is more secure.

> Running a "standard"
>xdm setup does not provide this functionality, and as far as I'm aware,
>doesn't provide you with any way to disable a user other than altering
>their password, which of course, doesn't work in certain cases anyway.
>

At least xdm allows you to easily roll your own.

>In summary, altering a user's password AND shell will disable that account,
>but the user has no idea what's wrong with their account. Changing one but
>not the other is generally not sufficient.
>
>Disclaimer : I don't know anything about SVR4 yet, so I'm writing about
>Suns running SunOS 4.1.x, and the X11R5 version of xdm.
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>
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From: rchui@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Raymond Chui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: What is the command show each cpu ps in Sun 6xx ?
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:08:42 GMT
Organization: NAVAL SURFACE WARFARE CENTER

All the Sun 6xx(630, 670, 690) are multi-processors machnies.
What is the command to show each individual CPU processing 
status and CPU percentage utilization?
I type "ps -aux", this only show me over all CPU's percentage
utilization. Is there a new command for these machnies?

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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: using SPARCstation IPC as gateway?
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:54:10 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <1992Sep8.120547.1002@isa.de> luik@isa.de (Andreas Luik) writes:
>o The SPARC should have enough memory because swapping will degrade
>  net performance significantly
>o To ensure that the routed gets enough CPU, no real work should be
>  done on the machine. NFS service will be OK, but makes or so will make
>  routing slow (and renicing routed seems not to help).

Unless you have a complex network, routed will only run a few times a
minute.  Routed isn't involved in the actual routing of packets, it merely
broadcasts and updates the routing table.

This is probably also relevant to the memory requirements.  Renicing routed
probably doesn't help because nice doesn't keep a process from being
swapped out.  If your network is simple enough that routed isn't forced to
run very often, it may get swapped out after each iteration, and it will
have to page back in when its timer goes off again.

>I'm not sure yet, but I think I'll wait until the budget allows us to
>buy a bridge.

If you were considering using the Sun as a router, why not go for a real
router rather than just a bridge?
-- 
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System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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From: craven@cg.emr.ca (Jim Craven)
Subject: Re: format vs. fsck on a SCSI disk
Reply-To: craven@cg.emr.ca
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines & Resources, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:23:51 GMT

In article 838@uhura.neoucom.edu, wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew) writes:
>
>Apparently not all SCSI drives are created equal when it comes to
>being able to sapre/reformat bad blocks on the fly.  I'd think that
>the Seagate 1.3 gig drive is new enough that it should have all the
>latest bells and whistles.  My 3rd party refernce book doesn't
>mention any jumper settings, but I know that some ESDI drives I've
>used in the past have strapping options to enable/disable spare
>blocks.  I guess the idea is that if you want the absolute maximum
>storage on the drive you can disable spare blocks and let your
>operating system worry about handling mapping of grown defects.
>
I had a long (unsuccessful) phone session with Sun regarding this
problem; that is, not being able to correct an error on my 1.3G.
They did not mention this idea of yours, but your idea does sound
possible to me.  If it is true, Sun and myself wasted a *lot* of time.
>
>-- 
>Bill Mayhew      NEOUCOM Computer Services Department
>Rootstown, OH  44272-9995  USA    phone: 216-325-2511
>wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu   (140.220.1.1)

Jim
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From: derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
Subject: LaserWriter IINTX printing backwards
Reply-To: motcid!derosa@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:02:42 GMT

I have successfully gotten a LaserWriter IINTX
working with my SparcStation but I have one 
(slight) problem.  
 
Interleaf documents print out backwards, that is,
first page last, last page first.  This is with 
the paper coming out the side.  FrameMaker and 
flat files print fine.
 
How can this be fixed?  Thanks, John

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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Question about patches and version numbers
Date: 14 Sep 1992 03:35:17 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com

In article <1992Sep12.170010.15685@greco-prog.fr> cohen@alioth.greco-prog.fr (Henri Cohen) writes:
>What I do NOT understand is why when Sun goes, say, from 4.1.1
>to 4.1.2, the necessary patches for 4.1.1 still have to be made.

4.1.2 generally includes the fixes that were made to 4.1.1 at the time that
4.1.2 was being written.  However, Sun continued to make fixes to 4.1.1
after finishing (and even after shipping) 4.1.2.  Since these problems were
found after 4.1.2 was written, it usually still has these bugs, so the
patch needs to be made to both releases.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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From: das@eplunix.UUCP (David Steffens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Anyone know what a "writeback error" is?
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:10:21 GMT
Organization: Eaton-Peabody Lab, Boston, MA

Yikes! Just answered this a month ago. Guess it's deja vu all over again :-)

In article <1992Sep11.022648.28954@galois.mit.edu>,
sangho@runge.mit.edu (Sangho Yoon) says:
> I've been getting these errors every time I try to run dump onto an exabyte.
> The system is configured like this :
> 4/260 running SunOS 4.1.1
> ... the system crashes with the following error:
> panic: writeback error

There is a bug in 4.1.1 on Sun 4/200-class processors that causes a panic
if you have an entry in /etc/fstab for your _primary_ swap partition.
For example, my disks are xd0 and xd1. I have a swap partition on each,
namely /dev/xd0b and /dev/xd1b, but /dev/xd0b is my _primary_ swap
partition because root is on /dev/xd0a. If /dev/sd0a is your root,
then /dev/sd0b is your primary swap partition and so on.

Fix: If you have a primary swap partition entry in your /etc/fstab, e.g.
	/dev/xd0b	swap		swap rw		0 0
then you must either delete it or comment it out with # and reboot.

Note: Entries for secondary swap partitions in /etc/fstab are OK, e.g.
	/dev/xd1b	swap		swap rw		0 0
These other, non-primary entries are also required if you want "swapon -a"
to install secondary swap partitions automatically from /etc/rc at boot time.

Credits: This bug was found and reported by someone at Columbia University so
long ago that I've lost the original posting and forgotten the poster's name.
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From: cojjr@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.j.rushford..jr)
Subject: printcap for HP laserjet III
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:27:28 GMT
Keywords: postscript

I'm trying to get an H.P. Laserjet III printer with a JetPageIII postscript
emulation cartridge to work with a SPARC II running Openwindows 3.0.
Specifically I need a good /etc/printcap, filters, and helpful hints to get
this thing working.

Now I can print only 1 good page.  The SUN leaves the printer in a landscape
rotation for subsequent print jobs.  I have to manually reset the printer to 
get it back to a portrait rotation.

thanks in advance for your help
John
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From: etsiao@joule.elee.calpoly.edu (Eddie Tsiao)
Subject: Re: Question about patches and version numbers
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:34:00 GMT

In article <19119lINN6a6@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.170010.15685@greco-prog.fr> cohen@alioth.greco-prog.fr (Henri Cohen) writes:
>>What I do NOT understand is why when Sun goes, say, from 4.1.1
>>to 4.1.2, the necessary patches for 4.1.1 still have to be made.
>
>4.1.2 generally includes the fixes that were made to 4.1.1 at the time that
>4.1.2 was being written.  However, Sun continued to make fixes to 4.1.1
>after finishing (and even after shipping) 4.1.2.  Since these problems were
>found after 4.1.2 was written, it usually still has these bugs, so the
>patch needs to be made to both releases.

Just for a twist... Do all patches for 4.1.2 apply to 4.1.1 even if 4.1.1 is
not included in the readme file?

			- E.T.

|Eddie Tsiao                         | etsiao@autobahn.ARDFA.CalPoly.EDU     |
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From: jwa@yog-sothoth.dcrt.nih.gov (James W. Adams)
Subject: Re: How does one use the Translucent File Service?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:20:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.103343.19313@eua.ericsson.se> per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland) writes:
>[...]
>Anyway, I hear TFS is going away as of Solaris 2.x - too bad, I think,
>it is quite "interesting"...

Too bad indeed.  Most of the things that made SunOS the best (IMHO) UNIX
implementation available are going away as well.

To paraphrase Sun's marketing hype:

"Why try to turn your PCs into workstations ...

     ... when Solaris 2.x will turn your workstations into PCs?"


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From: wayne@meaddata.com (Wayne Schroeder)
Subject: Re: Will add_services(8) work with a remote CD
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:26:49 GMT
Reply-To: wayne@meaddata.com

In article 3636@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov, karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson) writes:
>Has anybody had any luck running add_services against a remote CD reader?  It
>works very well with a remote tape drive, of course, but as we all know Sun now
>distributes its OS on CD...
>-- 
>Karl A. Anderson		| Internet: karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov


Yes, I have done this many times and it has always worked fine.



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From: mnejat@telesoft.com (Mehregan Nejat @lone)
Subject: How to tell which client is performing NFS requests?
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:30:31 GMT

Hello,

The subject says it all.  

Thanx in advance.

--Mehregan Nejat
From: jackv@orpheus.Eng.Sun.COM (Jack F. Vogel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: What is the command show each cpu ps in Sun 6xx ?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 21:05:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: orpheus

In article <1992Sep10.120842.2313@relay.nswc.navy.mil> rchui@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Raymond Chui) writes:
|All the Sun 6xx(630, 670, 690) are multi-processors machnies.
|What is the command to show each individual CPU processing 
|status and CPU percentage utilization?
|I type "ps -aux", this only show me over all CPU's percentage
|utilization. Is there a new command for these machnies?
 
check out /usr/kvm/mps and /usr/kvm/mpstat. mps is just a version of ps
that also knows and displays the cpuid in the proc structure but it might
be of use, also mpstat, as you might expect, is an MP version of pstat.

don't know if it will give you everything you want, but these are the
only MP-wise tools shipped with the system.

cheers,

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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: mounting 4.1.1 fs on a 4.1.2 sys
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 21:58:27 GMT

In article <2328@itexjct.jct.ac.il> avraham@itexjct.jct.ac.il (avraham shir-el) writes:
>my question is exactly the opposite of the one asked last week.
>i'm planning on physically moving a disk from a 4.1.1 system
>to a 4.1.2 system. i had assumed that it would be ok.

There's no essential difference between doing this and simply upgrading the
4.1.1 system to 4.1.2, leaving the disk on it intact. Works just fine.
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