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From: s36596c@puukko.hut.fi (Petri Virekoski)
Subject: SY77 editor
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:56:13 GMT

Does anybody know any PC (preferably pd or shareware) 
programs for controlling/editing the SY77 ?
If, then would you be so kind to tell me here or e-mail me 
the program name(s) and/or site(s).
Thank you.

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From: URWALECK@ps1.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (Martin Urwaleck)
Subject: Re: Formant analog synthesizer - Elektor
Organization: Inst. for General Electrics & Electronics, TU Vienna
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:58:34 GMT

In article <memo.601279@cix.compulink.co.uk> thart@cix.compulink.co.uk (Toby Hart Dyke) writes:
>From: thart@cix.compulink.co.uk (Toby Hart Dyke)
>Subject: Re: Formant analog synthesizer - Elektor
>Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 10:33:01 +0000
>
>In article <92240.170646SSCPRICK@HASARA11.BITNET>,
>            SSCPRICK@HASARA11.BITNET (Rick Jansen) writes:
>
>>In 1979 the electronics magazine Elektor/Elektuur
>>published the modular analog synthesizer Formant.
>>I'd like to hear some experiences from people
>>who actually built and/or used the Formant.
>> 
>>-Rick.
>
>I played with a Formant for about half an hour at an electronics fair in
>London in around 1980. It had a wonderful "solid" fat sound to it. I had
>planned to build one, but never had the time and money at the same time.
>
>Elektor republished the set of articles in book form (which I still have,
>maybe I'll get round to it some day!). Are you planning on building one?
>I seem to recall that some of the parts were difficult to obtain, at
>least here in the UK.
>
Actually, there where two books on the Formant. If anyone is interested, I 
can dig them up.
> 
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>     Toby Hart Dyke     thart@cix.compulink.co.uk
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Powerbooks and MIDI
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:53:54 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU's message of 1 Sep 92 06:46:11 GMT

In article <9208312346.aa16109@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Ciaran Foley) writes:

   I've heard much rumor that the Apple Powerbooks are incompatible with
   present midi gear.

Much rumour has been generated, kimo sabe. And a small amount of factual
information. Mostly from myself, Metlay, and Tech Note #318.

  Specifically, I'm looking at an Apple Powerbook
   145 4/40 with an Opcode Midi Two (2 in 6 out) box. Does anyone know
   for sure whether this will present a problem?

The 140 is basically a higher-speed 140. I see no reason why it would work
unless there's been a major reworking with the power management CPU comms,
which seems highly unlikely. It's possible that the hacks in OMS 1.2 will
make it sufficiently functional for your purposes; I'm still awaiting my copy
to try it on my PowerBook 140.

   I've heard that the
   lower power consumption of the Powerbook cannot drive the midi ports
   through the serial connection correctly...

That's a new one on me...

   Ciaran Foley

Nick.
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Using the MAC 100 Portable for sequencing....
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:13:15 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU's message of 25 Aug 92 23:01:45 GMT

In article <9208251601.aa20791@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Ciaran Foley) writes:

   Will I have trouble running most sequencing software on this beast if
   I decide to buy it? 16 mhz, 20 meg HD, ext. floppy, 2 meg (4 meg later) ram,
   68000? I need an answer quickly, as I have a terrific offer on one!

The short answer is "No."

The long answer is, read Mike Metlay's report, posted not 24 hours ago to
this very forum.

Hmm, I wonder where my PB100 order has got to?

Nick.
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From: kmorton@panix.com (Ken Morton)
Subject: Cubase Audio (Mac)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:53:50 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

	Is anyone using this program?  I'm having problems with it.
While playing back two tracks of audio, MIDI input glitches occasionally.
Usually by about a 8th note at 120pbm.  It driving me nuts.  I *love*
EVERYTHING about the program, but this bug renders it useless.

	The guys at tech support at great though, they've been helping
alot and are looking into the problem.

	BTW my system is a Mac IIx with a DayStar PowerCache 40Mhz030/FPU
(the problem also occured w/o the DayStar) and 8 megs o' RAM.  My HD is
a Micronet 170, more than fast enough for the application (but it is
partitioned into 30/140 drives).

			Anyone?

		BTW, CA has a ADB Dongle for copy-protection!!!!!!
		I've never seen such a thing on a Mac.  I really don't mind
			much, but it's strange.  


					Ken Morton

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From: nastasi@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (joseph.l.nastasi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Moog/SCI questions (Devo/gary numan)
Summary: Rogue/Opus comments
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:28:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsk.1992Aug31.162801.18241
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug30.221016.26903@sdf.lonestar.org>, 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones) writes:

> I was wondering if any expert out there could give me some info
> on what Moog synth (if it was used) on the devo song "Smart patrol/Mr.DNA"
> is it a Micro Moog?  Did realistic/moog only make the micro moog model?


The Realistic synth was a copy of the Moog Rogue.  Very simple &
cheap mono synth.  The micro moog came earlier and was IMHO a much
better synth, sound and control wise.  I did cost more than the
Rogue and was discontinued by the time the Rogue came out.  I still
have my Micromoog and love it!

> did they ever use ARPs? (gary numan, yes)  Any comments on the Moog
> OPUS 3 synth?
> 

I owned on of these dogs.  It's basically an ARP String Ensemble
with some synth processing added (a couple of envelope generators
and a VCF).  It was okay, but I dumped real quick once I got a
Poly-6 from Korg.

It wouldn't surprise me if DEVO used either one of these synths
because they were very thin and plastic sounding.  Right up
their alley.  (not a negative comment;  I always thought they
were great!)

> SdfComm/SysAdm - Stephen M. Jones        (214)436-4622
> 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org    ..seas.smu.edu!letni!sdf!6o25

Joe Nastasi
AT&T, Middletown, NJ
(908) 957-6365 7am-4pm EST M-F
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Moog/SCI questions (Devo/gary numan)
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:45:38 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I had a look at a Keyboard mag review - they were reviewing both the
SCI Pro One and the Moog Opus. The Opus wasn't a rehashed Prodigy, it
was more a rehashed string ensemble. Keyboard didn't think much of it,
espeically compared to the SCI Pro One.

I'm not sure what you want to use the Opus3 for but $175 seems high.
I'd see if you can get a Prodigy, or Korg Mono/Poly instead. Check
Rogue Music in NY and get on their mailing list. They have lots of
used keyboards (and other used gear) including analog stuff.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Mail Order Prices
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 15:51:30 GMT

Sam Ash (1-800-4-SAMASH) is pretty good. The people know their stuff,
they have good prices and they'll usually match or beat any price.
I have bought stuff on a number of occasions and have no complaints.

Manny's, Thoroughbred, and Caruso advertise a lot in Keyboard/EM but
I have no experience with them. I thought the prices in Musicians Friend
looked a bit high.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: eab@cbnews.cb.att.com (eugene.a.beer)
Subject: DX7-to-SY77 conversion
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:15:05 GMT


Yamaha FM hacks:

I'm having problems with the DX2SY.EXE program that converts DX7 patches
to SY77 patches. (I got the program ftp from udel.edu).
I ran the addit.c program on my 4096-byte 32 voice
DX7 bank file and it seemed to work OK, putting a 6-byte header on the
front and a checksum and 0xF7 byte on the tail of the file.

Then I ran DX2SY and it executed OK, listing the 32 voices that it supposedly
converted. (The 32nd voice was replicated for SY77 voices 33-64).
The resulting converted file was 66000+ bytes which seemed
awfully big to me.  I did a hexdump of it and  it doesn't look good.  There's
about 500+ bytes of 0xFF between each voice, and the voices are too short (~400
bytes) for the SY77 1AFM format, which is supposed to be 466 bytes. 
There's no appropriate header either on the converted voices as is shown in
the TG77 manual for the sysex.  

Any suggestions anyone?  Note that since I have the TG77 as opposed to the Sy77,
I am not writing a disk file to be loaded on the SY, but rather, I will
load the TG via MIDI sysex. I assume the SY77 voice disk files (which DX2SY.EXE 
produces) are identical to the voice sysex I would send over MIDI.

Thanks in advance for any assistance,

			eugene beer eab@cbzoo.att.com 614-860-5668
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: richards@mcnc.org (Bill Richards)
Subject: Digitech GFX-1 foot controller info needed...
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:05:57 GMT

I recently came into possesion of a Digitech GFX-1 foot controller. Looks like
it was made for the GSP21 or TwinTube processors. I have NO info on this thing.
I would like service info (like schematics) to understand what it does. I want
to interface it to some other stuff, if I can. I'd love to have that little
blue flourescent display right under my little piggies while playing... ALSO
I put out a call a while back for anyone wanting to dump a Moog Taurus II. I'm
still looking. They're harder to come by than I thought. Thanks...

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From: micko@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (David Micko)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: QUERY: OCR to MIDI software available?
Keywords: OCR
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:56:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I'm posting this query for a friend of mine, a Baptist minister in
Decatur Illinois. Please e-mail all replies to me, as my friend does
not have a net connection, and I don't read rms that much...
.....................................................................

I know it's got to be technologically feasible, 
but is there any commercially (or otherwise) available software out there 
that will scan in musical notation and convert it to a MIDI readable file? I 
would like to put a piece of music into a scanner, scan it, and then be able 
to play it on my keyboard. Do you have any suggestions?

Tyrone

.......................................................................

David Micko
Technical Information Specialist
Illinois Power
micko@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: WANTED: cheap MIDI card for PC
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:33:41 GMT
Reply-To: ken@netmail.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


Again, anyone selling a MIDI card? If you're upgrading
from an 8 to 16 channel card, whatever. I need a card
for my IBM-compatible PC. I'm a beginner, so massive
function is not crucial.

Ken


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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: rate this synth
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:39:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Aug27.144633.27992@udel.edu> gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo) writes:
>
>>   Groovy Sequential Split-8 Polyphonic Programmable Synthesizer
>> You bet. Sure it's been around, but it's barely used, just like new.
>>Eight rockin' analog oscillators; you can actually SPLIT THE KEYBOARD and
>>play two sounds at once from different ends of the 5-full-octave keyboard
>>   Kick-butt effects pedal (for sustain, filter, pitch bend...)
>>		MIDI connections, Full size keys
>>The only reason I'm selling it: I was always too lazy to program the darn
>>	       thing. And I ain't no Beethoven anyway.
>>				   
>>  Would like to sell it for $200. Send me a note if yer interested.
>
>
>	Anybody have info on this machine?  Age?  Street value?  Right
>now I'm using a stock Casio keyboard (one of those models with the
>zillions of presets, but no synth capability) and Cakewalk for the
>IBM/PC.  
>	I'm a novice when it comes to synths.  Any info about the
>capability of this machine would be appreciated.

	If he is talking about a Sequential Circuits Prophet T8, and it's
working properly, $200 is an utter _STEAL_!  Buy it.  Damn good analog synth.
You want synth capability?  Buy this, now.  If you don't, I will.  ;^>

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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Yamaha Rack Mounts...advice needed
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:44:59 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1992Sep01.154959.26571@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>[...]
>The TG33 has been discontinued and is available quite cheap. This 
>is rackmountable and gets you FM, plus samples, plus wave sequencing !

The TG33 can make some nice sounds but its FM capability is limited to 
2 operators.  I wouldn't buy the TG33 if serious FM was the slightest bit
important to me.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:21:00 EDT
From:         WSCOTT@ACS.WOOSTER.EDU
Subject:      Re: K2000 Questions
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

Just an addition to Scott Fahlman's good answers re: Mac hard disks.
K2000 must have MS-DOS formatting on the hard disk. It would be pleased
to reformat your Mac hard disk to this for you, but you'll lose its use
on the Mac.

Bill Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jerrymo@ecs.comm.mot.com (Jerry Morrow)
Subject: My U-20 seems to be forgetting things, is my battery bad?
Organization: secure_comm
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:50:49 GMT
Followup-To: jerrymo@ecs.comm.mot.com
Summary: I don't know if the battery needs to be replaced in my U-20
Keywords: U-20, battery backup 

Help?

I have noticed in the last few days that my Roland U-20
has been changing some parameters itself (Master Tune,
the names of some patches).  Does the keyboard store
info in EEPROM or Battery-Backed RAM?  If I do need to
replace my battery, do I have to go to a service center?
I'd rather not..

Jerry Morrow
jerrymo@ecs.comm.mot.com
Motorola, Inc.  Schaumburg, IL


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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:00:45 EST
From:         "W. John Weber" <WWEBER@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Phase meter

Date sent: 27-AUG-1992


     I'm looking for a phase meter from an old MCI console.  Also, I'm still
looking for a Korg DVP-1 for a friend.  Please email me directly.  Thanks.

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From: jeff@svl.cdc.com (Jeff Needham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Team Metlay 1992: Screaming Into The Aether (part two) *LONG*
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:30:21 GMT


Thought food:

Next session , have each person just bring one synth(*) and have someone ELSE 
pick from the stack which one he gets stuck bringing.    This should avoid
everyone showing up with Xpanders.  Synth might be better defined as
sound-generating electronics.

Has this been suggested before?  I have a feeling it has due to 
wiring frustration.  It sounds like everybody involved knows enough to
squeeze majic out of just about anything that is thrust in front of
them, so it wouldn't be much of a limit.


jeff





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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: chaban@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Ed Chaban)
Subject: Roland SoundCanvas for sale
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 27 AUG 92 16:41:45 PST


I'm selling my Roland SoundCanvas.  It has never left my home and I still
have the original packaging.  

offers by E-Mail

chaban@fortsc.enet.dec.com

-Ed
From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: want info. on sound modules
Date: 1 Sep 1992 12:59:28 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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In article <BtvGK6.9u5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mike Clemens,
mclemens@silver.ucs.indiana.edu writes:
>I'm looking around at sound modules to connect up to my computer and
synth.
>I'd like something that is totally/mostly controlled via MIDI -- can
anyone
>recommend a good module?  I can't spend _too_ much, since there is such a
>thing as rent... :-<  

How much is too much? How much is too little? These days you can probably
find a used Roland MT-32 for less than $300, or you can go out and
purchase an EMU-Proteus 1 or 2 for about $500 and $800 respectively.

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From: kds@phy.duke.edu (Stokes Kevin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.compose
Subject: Anyone like to write music for a computer game?
Keywords: music ROL adlib
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:59:37 GMT
Followup-To: poster


  I am the author of the already successful 3D air combat game
Corncob 3D.  My marketing guy is interested in music for the menus
and title screen for the next release.   So far a search through existing  
public domain .ROL files has turned up mostly tunes which are obviously 
still under current copyright.
  I would create the music myself however, I have no talent and no 
equipment.  The members of this group seem to have the equipment and the
interest, so I thought it might be worth a posting.
  I am interested only in music in the .ROL file format.  I need a short
dynamic piece to play during the credit scroll, and some long quiet pieces
to play while the user is sitting in the menus.
  Of course we are willing to pay for original music, but we are not talking
about a lot of money.  Your name would appear prominently in the credits, 
and the circulation of the game is sure to be over 200,000 retail copies.  
(Note: My profit is very low, though.  About $.16 per disk. )
  If anyone already has some stuff they have done in the past, and would like 
to make a quick buck, please drop me an email note.

  NOTE:  This IBMPC game is available via FTP.lowell.edu in the msdos games 
section (corn20.zip), or from the Pie in the Sky BBS (919)489-6900 if you want 
to check it out before responding.
 
                                  -Kevin Stokes, Pie in the Sky Software
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:24:00 CET
From:         "CRI/CD/OS; Rene de Bie" <CRISRB@RULMVS.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
Subject:      ran4ops for YAMAHA synth's
Comments: To: "Redistribution of rec.music.synth"
              <SYNTH-L%AUVM.bitnet@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>

Hi all, I wondered if someone knows the author off the program
RAN4OPS. This must be a program for MSdos to copy sounds into
a YAMAHA synth(DX21 or others) memory. I have it, but it doesn't work
with the soundblaster Pro card. Maybe the author can do something about
it? Perhaps a mail-adress ?

Rene de Bie - CRI - University Leiden - Holland
Mail   :P.O.Box 9512 - 2300 RA Leiden - The Netherlands
Phone  :+31 71 277028/276921
From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: FINALE
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:33:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <SYNTH-L%92082700244309@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> REID@ACUVAX.BITNET writes:
>Just a note:
>The Minnesota Composers Forum has announced an agreement with CODA to make
>FINALE available at the special price (previously only available to teachers
>and students) to all MCF members.  Might be worth looking into - and MCF is
>a great organization with a terrific little monthly newsletter.

Can you tell me a bit more about MCF please ?

Davei