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From: maruyama@sunnm.ism.ac.jp (MARUYAMA Naomasa)
Subject: Re: Please teach me about Newsprinter.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:34:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Reply-To: maruyama@ism.ac.jp
Organization: The Inst. of Statistical Mathematics, Tokyo Japan

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In article <NINOSE.92Oct9144913@esther.cs.uec.ac.jp>
ninose@argus.cs.uec.ac.jp (NINOSE Kenta) writes:

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maruyama@ism.ac.jp
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
From: miyake@oribe.osi.kddlabs.co.jp (Yutaka Miyake)
Subject: Re: Please teach me about Newsprinter.
Organization: KDD R&D Laboratories, Saitama, Japan.
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:47:33 GMT

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 >>    >$@$7$F$b;`$J$J$/$J$C$?$i%o!<%/%9%F!<%7%g%sB&$r%V!<%H$9$k$7$+$J$$$N$G$7$g(J
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 >>   $@$3$N;~$O!"$=$l0J9_$,%W%j%s%H$G$-$J$/$J$k$N$G!"(J
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From: murayama@tuhep.phys.tohoku.ac.jp (Hitoshi Murayama)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: on printers
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:10:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept of Phys.,Tohoku Univ.,Sendai,Japan


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From: takumi@ai01.ics.nitech.ac.jp (Ichi Takumi)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: Re: Please teach me about Newsprinter.
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:49:25 GMT
	<MARUYAMA.92Oct9203433@sunnm.ism.ac.jp>
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Reply-To: takumi@ics.nitech.ac.jp
Distribution: fj
Organization: Nagoya Institute of Technology, Nagoya, Japan

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In article <NAGAE.92Oct14154816@ipc2.an.isl.titech.ac.jp> nagae@an.isl.titech.ac.jp (Takanori Nagae) writes:
 >$B$H$3$m$G!$(BSPARCprinter$B$N%G!<%b%s$N%W%m%;%9$N%9(B$B%F!<%?%9$,#D$K$J$C$F$I$&(B
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From: asami@minnie.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Ken'ichi Asami)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: how to output kanji PostScript
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:09:13 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Technology, Iizuka, JAPAN.



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Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
From: miyake@oribe.osi.kddlabs.co.jp (Yutaka Miyake)
Subject: Re: Please teach me about Newsprinter.
Organization: KDD R&D Laboratories, Saitama, Japan.
	<MARUYAMA.92Oct9203433@sunnm.ism.ac.jp>
Distribution: fj
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:55:58 GMT


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 >>In article <MARUYAMA.92Oct9203433@sunnm.ism.ac.jp> maruyama@sunnm.ism.ac.jp (MARUYAMA Naomasa) writes:
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Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
From: sada@kehost.kokusaidenki.co.jp (Sadayoshi Horii)
Subject: Re: What is gs ?
Reply-To: sada@kehost.kokusaidenki.co.jp (Sadayoshi Horii)
Organization: Kokusai Electric Co,. Ltd.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:35:15 GMT

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From: okaz@ai.is.saga-u.ac.jp (Yasuhisa OKAZAKI)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: thanks for gs2.4.1 PS<->LIPS
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:24:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Department of Information Science, Saga University, Saga 840,
	Japan.


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From: okaz@ai.is.saga-u.ac.jp (Yasuhisa OKAZAKI)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.printers
Subject: gs2.4.1 PS<->LIPS
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:37:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Department of Information Science, Saga University, Saga 840,
        Japan.

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Newsgroups: ba.transportation
From: "Michael Smith" <p00004@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Employer encouragement of alternative means of commuting
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:31:48 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>DATE:   12 Oct 92 21:06:47 GMT
>FROM:   Joshua Levy <joshua@Veritas.COM>
>[material deleted]
>  Government transporation wants everyone to travel at the same
>time.

Ah yes. Dat ole debbil the Gummint again.

Actually, the owner of any large fixed capital asset (like a railroad or 
a power station) has a strong incentive to  
distribute use of it as smoothly as possible, and avoid the "peak hour" 
phenomenon as much as he can. The Gummint has in fact made a number of 
rather feeble attempts to encourage flex-time and spread out the "peak" 
in a number of jurisdictions. Why feeble? Because it's in fact the 
all-holy, all-benevolent corporation that resists it. 

I've worked for quite a few different corporations, some large, some 
small, and most were quite hostile to anything approaching flex time or 
staggered hours. No doubt there are exceptions, and it would be 
interesting to examine the reasons both for the general pattern and for 
the exceptions, but the fact is really not in doubt. 

Indeed, the idea, implicit in Levy's observation quoted above, that it's 
Gummint that wants everybody in lockstep and encourages conformity for 
its own sake, seems quite bass-ackwards in general to me. The real 
Kulturkampfers and conformity monitors are the company men. The 
besetting sins of Gummint are indolence and lethargy, but Akkme Inc. 
would plant a device in your brain if they could. 

--Michael Smith

Newsgroups: ba.transportation
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Re: Hillsdale -> 101/92 intersection
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:23:19 GMT

In article <67520@cup.portal.com>, amigan@cup.portal.com (R Michael Medwid) writes:
|> I work about ten minutes from a CalTrains stop in San Mateo.  Are there
|> shuttles that leave these stops to get you all the way to your work?
|> I'd just as soon not drive in the morning but it's too far to walk
|> and I don't want to ride a bike in a suit.  

You weren't specific about what "corner" of the 101/92 intersection you
work on.  I'll bet the 101/92 interchange isn't more than a 10-minute
*walk* from the Hayward Park CalTrain station.  The problem is that
unless you work on the west side of 101, I don't know if there is a
pedestrian crossing over 101 at 92.

The Hayward Park CalTrain station is just north of 92 and near K-Mart...

-- 

Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Re: Santa Clara Measure "A"?
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:06:49 GMT

In article <92287.49858.J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM>, J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

|> >California   proposition 156: YES     (clean air and rail bond act)
|> 
|> Have all existing bond authorizations been used?  I won't support any bond
|> issues unless all authorized bonds have already been issued.

Why?  Aren't there perfectly good reasons for not having used all
previously authorized bonds?  (Just as a "for-instance", the state
treasurer (Kathleen Brown) has a big say in how and when and in
what amount bonds are issued/sold.  I remember her explaining--
with what seemed like pretty good reasons to me at the time--why
bonds sales can't/shouldn't just happen any old time and in what-
ever amount you like.)

To me, your position is like telling a kid away at camp or college
that you won't send any more money until the money they've got is
"all used up"--despite the fact that the kid says he/she will need
more money real soon now.  AND, to keep the analogy going, you are
only going to be home for another few days before you go on another
one of your yearlong safaris during which you cannot be reached (the
voters can only be "reached" when there's a state-wide election).

Anyway, for voters to say "oh, I won't vote for prop nnn because
they haven't spent *all* the money we gave 'em last time" seems
like a really simplistic cop-out.  I just think there's a little more
to things than that and that you've got go beyond such simplistic
reasoning.

In State Proposition 156, there is no doubt about it:

1. Not *all* the funds from it's predecessor (108) have been spent.

2. Many important new and existing inter-city and urban rail projects,
   upgrades and studies from San Diego to Eureka depend 156's passage.
   There's even money for CalTrain, BART, and SCCo. light rail in it.
   
   (To contact the 156 campaign write Californians for Transportation
   Solutions, 926 J St., Suite 612, Sacramento, CA 95814, or call
   Renee McComb at (916) 557-1667 or Jim Knox at (916) 444-8726.)

Vote YES on proposition 156.

-- 

Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov
From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Viable auto alternative system? (long)
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:58:15 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct08.225223.17362@Veritas.COM>, joshua@Veritas.COM (Joshua Levy) writes:
> >* "Assured Connection" policy.  Vehicles in each tier would *always* wait 
> >for connecting vehicles, eliminating another perception problem (and a
> >real personal security issue for many people) of today's bus lines.  
> >No abandonment on the sidewalk waiting for a connection that may not come.  
> 
> I don't think this is possible.  If you only had two lines you could
> do it.  But with each line interacting with several other lines, I
> just don't see how you could do the schedualling, without creating
> really late pick ups.

It's not as hard as you might think.  With a hub-and-spoke transit
system, you can get pretty reliable transfers.  And late at night,
when this is especially useful, traffic is least likely to cause
lateness.

jeremy
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Subject: Re: Viable auto alternative system? (long)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:02:40 GMT

In article <92283.31435.J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM>, J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
> 
> For example, I can walk/bike/drive to the Blossom Hill CalTrain station (but
> with only two trains daily, it's hard to rely on this), board the train, and
> get off at the Sunnyvale station.  I could then get on the 54, which should
> (ideally) be waiting and ready to leave.  The 54 would then drop me off right
> in front of the building I work in.  With CalTrain going from South San Jose to
> Sunnyvale in around 30 minutes, and a bus waiting to depart from the Sunnyvale
> station, I could commute to work in 45 minutes.  And that's with existing
> schedules!  They could certainly cut 10 minutes from that by creating more
> express runs and having the bus depart right after the train arrives.  Such a
> system would be as fast as existing SCCT "express runs" (the express bus I
> sometimes use, the 122, still takes about 50 minutes).

It will be interesting to see how much faster the 122 is once 101
through SJ is finished.  Does anyone know when it's supposed to be
done?

jeremy
From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Viable auto alternative system? (long)
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:34:50 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct14.073457.10482@netcom.com>, araki@netcom.com (Gary Araki) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.192603.16737@netcom.com> loren@netcom.com (Loren Hart) writes:
> >pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:
> >: In article <1992Oct07.203025.24187@Veritas.COM> joshua@Veritas.COM (Joshua Levy) writes:
> >It is simple minded to say that The Santa Clara County Dial-a-ride
> >failed because too many people wanted to use it.  The real reason
> >Dial-a-ride failed was because the folks that set up the system planned
> >for failure and not success.  I personally think that Dial-a-ride was
> >run so poorly that it is not a reasonable experiment to indicate that
> >an on-demand system is not viable.  I personally observed the following
> >failures in the Dial-a-ride system:
> >
> >	1.  Full sized busses were used instead of vans so that when
> >	    Dial-a-ride failed, they could be used on normal bus
> >	    lines.  The full sized busses were, of course much more
> >	    expensive to run than vans would have been.
> >

They weren't actually full-sized.  They were midsized (30 foot).  About
2/3 the weight of a then-standard bus.

> As a aside, SCCTD still runs Dial-A-Ride in the South County area (Morgan Hill
> and Gilroy) with 4 35 foot coaches right now.

30 foot, actually.  But it's hard to tell.  The current 30 foot
buses have the same design as the 40 foot buses, as well as common
engines, etc.  They weigh more than old 40-foot buses.  Oh well.
So much for the noise and benefits they were expected to bring.

jeremy
From: fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu (Aaron Priven)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Socialism and Fiscal Federalism
Date: 15 Oct 1992 08:56:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (College Eight)
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


I sat down and started replying to messages about whether restricting
parking and spending different amounts in different states was 
socialist or not, and whether federal support of projects was
inherently wasteful or not, and I got really sick of it.  So here's a
brief summary, which is really more than it's worth anyway.

1) Socialism is a radical restructuring of the economy.  Liberalism
puts restrictions on some kinds of property rights but does not
actually change who owns the property.  Zoning regulations are
liberalism, not socialism.

2) Anybody who thinks there isn't just as much waste in local and state
government hasn't been paying attention.  If you really want to change
Congressional perks, change the electoral system so that we elect
people who stand for something instead of people who will "do well for
the district."

3) The Supreme Court says that the federal spending power extends to
residual powers.

4) None of this has anything to do with ba.transportation.

 =Aaron=
-- 
Aaron Priven, fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu
  Bring in the workers, and bring up the rails;
  We're gonna lay down the tracks, and tear up the trails. 
  Open her heart, let the life-blood flow,
  Gotta get on our way 'cause we're movin' too slow.
    -- Gordon Lightfoot, "Canadian Railroad Trilogy"
From: fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu (Aaron Priven)
Newsgroups: ba.transportation
Subject: Re: Viable auto alternative system? (long)
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:47:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (College Eight)
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <D2150035.g0gn54@outpost.SF-Bay.org> peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes:
>
>And how do you propose measuring "ecological cost"?  Sounds a lot like
>social cost, or psycological cost, or spiritual cost.  Yeah, I like
>that one.  Living in a city instead of on a farm takes a terrible
>toll on the spiritial development of people who live there.  Of course,
>market forces don't properly measure the spiritual cost, so lets have
>big brother impose a spiritual cost adjustment to make up for it.
>
>Sound like houey?  Sure does...

1) I can measure some environmental costs: the cost of increased
respiratory disease caused by automobile exhaust, for example.

2) I would not like to see a literal "environmental tax" on land.  I
would like to see zoning laws that reduce legal minimum lot sizes, 
that encourage mixed uses in neighborhoods where compatible, that encourages
rather than discourages public transit.  This is actually less
restrictive than current zoning laws in many cities, which have larger
minimum lot sizes, outlaw any mixed uses in neighborhoods, and require
a certain amount of public parking for any new development.

The United States made a series of political decisions in the early
part of this century that encouraged spread-out automobile
developments.  We did this by adopting zoning regulations and by
building gigantic infrastructures for the automobile (freeways,
streets, garages, parking lots).  I believe that the results of this
public policy has not been beneficial and it is time we changed it.

 =Aaron=
-- 
Aaron Priven, fuzzface@cats.ucsc.edu
  Bring in the workers, and bring up the rails;
  We're gonna lay down the tracks, and tear up the trails. 
  Open her heart, let the life-blood flow,
  Gotta get on our way 'cause we're movin' too slow.
    -- Gordon Lightfoot, "Canadian Railroad Trilogy"