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From: chitoor@brahms.udel.edu (Srikrishnan Chitoor)
Subject: Real Story II :-)
Followup-To: soc.culture.tamil
Summary: Electric chairs don't work.
Keywords: Ajay, new years eve, bus conductor
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:27:23 GMT

This incident happened on the eve of the new year day 1990. There was
this bus conductor called Ajay in madras. On this fateful day, he was
the conductor for route 18A (from Tambaram to Broadway). There was
just a single passanger in the bus.
            Our man Ajay called the lone traveller to near the exit
and in the pretext of showing him something, pushed him off the bus
and killed him. He was booked by the police, but was let off by the
court for lack of evidence. He was reinstated as a conductor and
nothing much happened in the full of 1990.
        I should say that it was just a conincidence that on the eve
of 1991, he was the conductor for 18A and there was this lone passanger
in the bus. As you might have already guessed, this traveller
met the same fate as the one mentioned above. Again, ajay was
let off for lack of evidence, but this time, the police decided
to keep a 24 hour, 7 days a week, 365 days a year watch on him.
Ofcourse, our hero never knew that.
        As again, somehow it happened that on the eve of new years
day 1991, he was the conductor for 18A and there was this single
passanger. Ajay pushed this guy off the bus and killed him. This
has been videotaped by the police and clearly showed ajay
had killed the passanger.
       The court decided to award him death sentence, but were 
surprised to hear that ajay wanted to die not by hanging but
from an electric chair. As they decided to honor his request,
it was decided that his death sentence would be carried by 
electrocuting him on 15 Jan 1992.
      The day soon arrived and there was Ajay, smiling
and feeling happy and puzzling all the news persons there
to cover his execution. He was tied to an electric chair,
a black cloth was put over his face and the current was
switched on. It was left on for about 15 minutes and later
it was switched off and the executioners removed the black
cloth. They were ofcourse surprised to see ajay, smiling
and very much alive. They could not understand what was going on
as they were sure that the electric chair worked and it
was engaged for more than the time it needs to kill a
person.
   Can any of you guess why and help the poor souls
in the execution room ?

  Ajay was a bad "conductor" :-).
More will follow depending on response.
-Krishna.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu)
Subject: Tamil Literary Society Magazine
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:22:44 GMT

	This is being posted on behalf of Dr.Srinivasan, who has some
	problem currently accessing the net. All e-mail followups
	should be directed to  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
\(ROMAN)\J Synopsis: An electronic Tamil literary magazine is born.
It is named \(TAMIL)'a'.

\_ amudhaa\- : azhagaana peyar. appadiyE irukkattum.

\_ aashaa\- : adhenna peyar. aadhi mudhal aanai varai ellaa sollukkum
aarambam 'aa' thaanE. En, aathami kooda aavil thaanE
aarambikkiRadhu. perumbaalum aangilaththil irukkum madalukku
'aa' enRa peyarE sari.

\_ idhayan\- : aagaa! ivvaLavu thaanaa ungaL intellijenc. inimaiyaana thamizhum
ingleeshum irandum iyaRkaiyaaga kalandha ippaththirigai
peyar 'i' thaan.

\_ eesvari\- : idhenna arththamillaadha peyar. eedillaadha eesvaranum, miga
chiRiya eeyum koLLum peyar 'ee' thaan sari.

\_ umaa\- : 'ee' yaa! uppillaadha uNavu pOl peyar. 'u' thaan uyarndha peyar
uyiroottum peyar, uyya udhavum peyar.

\_ oorvasi\- : ungaLukku vERu edhuvum thOnRavillaiyaa? oorvittu oor
vandhirukkum namakku 'oo' thaan sari.

\_ edvard\- : oomaiyaaga naan irukkamudiyaadhu. edhukkaaga 'e' enRu vaikka
koodaadhu. ezhungaL, edhirppOm.

\_ Ezhumalai\- : edhaRku veeN vivaadham. 'E' enRu vaiththu viduvOm.
ERu mayil ERum.....

\_ aiyar\- : EraaLamaana peyargaL irukkumbOdhu, nalla peyar vaikkalaamE.
aimpulangaLaiyum aikkiyamaakkum 'ai' enRa peyar thaan sari. aiyamE illai.

\_ ottakooththan\- : aiyaiya! idhenna peyar. 'o' than sari.
oppillaadha peyar. onRaaga orumai paduvOm.

\_ Omkaari\- : ozhungaa nam Olaikku 'O' enRu peyar iduvOm.
OmenRu Oyaamal OdhuvOm. O! Oyvedukka OdaadheergaL!

\_ aurangaseb\- : O! O!. thuglak-ku oru thamizh paththirikai irundhaal
aurangaseb-ku En koodaadhu. 'au' thaan sariyaana peyar.

\_ kaNNan\- : .......

\(ROMAN) [No offense intended towards any individual whose name resemble the
above names, or towards the organizers of the worthwhile project.]\j
K. Srinivasan at Hydro Quebec  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca  92/11/12

\noprint
To see the above text in Tamil script type at the DOS prompt
C> GO name_of_this_file
in the subdirectory ADAMI 9.x is installed.
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Re: Dravidians and Nagas
Keywords: Dravidians and Nagas
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:08:22 GMT

In article <BxuDK7.EnI@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) writes:
> 
      Sorry for the typos

> Apart from the above poets, there were 5 in the Ancient Sangam Paripaadal
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        should read; 'there were 5 who had sung Ancient Paripaadal songs,

> which were set to music ( there were 10 pieces set to music out of which 5
> have the "naagan" name), these are : Petha_naaganaar, Naaganaar, Nan_naaganaar
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  'hve been authored by persons with a 'naagan' name

> Kan_naaganaar and another Naaganaar.
> 
>     
>   Regards
>  Selva Selvakumar
> 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: thOlvi nilaiyena ninaiththaal manidhan.....
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:52:19 GMT

In <Bxz2v3.IIF@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@bcr3.uwaterloo.ca (Meenan Vishnu) writes:
>>
>>yuththaNGkaL thOnRattum iraththaNGkal sinNthattum paathai maaRalaamaa
>>iraththaththin veppaththil achchaNGkaL vEkattum koLkai saakalaamaa
>>urimai izhanNthOm utamayum izhanNthOm uNarvai izhakkalaamaa
>>uNarvai kotuththu uyiraai vaLarththa kanavai maRakkalaamaa
>>yuththaNGkaL thOnRattum iraththaNGkal sinNthattum paadhai maaRalaamaa
>>iraththaththin veppaththil achchaNGkaL vEkattum koLkai saakalaamaa
>>
>>
>>anpudan,
>>
>>V R Kumar
>>-- 

>Thanks for posting the lyrics of this song.  In my opinion, this is
>the best song in recent times (ie quite relevent to the Tamils today).

>Meenan Vishnu


  urimai izhanthu, naatai izhanthu, veetai izhanthu,
ellaam izhanthu vaazhnthaalum, 
thamizh uNarvai izhakakkoodathu!


  Kathiravan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: kuRaL
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:08:25 GMT

In <fb78.722539263@sol> fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan) writes:

>kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>> aathi and pahavan are not vaLLuvars parents.
>>  aathi-first, pahavan-as selva had explained-God;
>>  pahavan is someone who does paharthal.


>> Kathiravan

>Can we say for sure? I mean, are the Kurals not subject to
>slightly varying interpretations? What if Valluvar had
>his parents in mind? I have attended lectures where such
>an interpretation has been given and frankly, do not
>see anything wrong with such an interpretation.
> - ganesh
>> 

   Anybody can give any interpretation. But it is up to
us to decide who says right stuff. aathi and pahavan cannot
be seperated, pahavan is not written as bhagawaan and
aathi is not afemale name-its is first.

 This is the basis I used to find the true meaning. If
somebody says aathi-female and pahavan-male in vaLLuvar's
kuRaL I will ask a question? aathi pahavan muthaRRE ulagu.
Is aathi and pahavan mother and father for all ulagu!

      Again if aathi is female; pahavan-male for some
stupid reason they can derive pleasure from their
ignorance.

   Thanks,
   Kathiravan

  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: cheenu@eng.auburn.edu (Srinivasan Vanchinathan)
Subject: Re: Aananda Vikadan, Kumudam ....
Reply-To: cheenu@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:47:49 GMT

I am a subscriber to  Ananda Vikatan and have been receiving it for over a year now.  If you are interested in subscribing send a draft for Rs 1007/- (for one year) drawn in favor of "ANANDA VIKATAN" to 

The  Subscription manager
Ananda Vikatan
757 Anna Salai
MADRAS - 600 002.
INDIA.

I have no complaints about receiving the magazine by ordinary air-mail directly from India.  The publisher do not accept responsibility for any unreceived issues and will not deliver those if requested.

< Cheenu >
From: ponnu@sun13.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (K. Ponnambalam)
Subject: Fonts for Indian/Srilankan Languages
Keywords: Word processing, PC's, India, Srilanka, Fonts
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:06:03 GMT


The following company has excellent fonts (more than 15 type)
for tamil, telugu, kannada, gujarati, sinhalese, hindi, sanskrit,
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TORONTO, M6R 1W8, PHONE:(416)588-7193. This for your information only.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ravi@eemips.tamu.edu (Ramanathan Ravi Venkatesh)
Subject: Flood situation in T.Nadu
Organization: Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:03:02 GMT

Hi!

Do any body have any update or detailed news on the recent cyclone
and flood damages in Trinelvei-Kattabomman district and other southern
districts......

If so please post it in the net...

Ravi
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Currect NEWS - T.N. and Sri Lanka (Some excerpts)
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:22:07 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 [ Some excerpts from a news mail I received from Balki. - SP ]

------------------------------------------------------------------------
NOV 17
======

LANKAN NAVAL CHIEF KILLED BY SUICIDE BOMBER
COLOMBO - Sri Lanka's Navy Commander, Clancy Fernando, was assassinated
today when a suspected LTTE militant, riding a motorcycle carrying a
bomb, rammed into Fernando's car this morning. The incident occured
around 8.40 a.m. when the naval chief was on his way to his office.

TN GOVT FILES DEFAMATION CASE AGAINST SWAMY
MADRAS - The Tamil Nadu Govt today filed a criminal defamation case
against Janata Party leader, Dr. Subramanian Swamy, for his allegation
implicating State CM Ms. Jayalalitha, in the acid attack on former IAS
officer, Ms. V. Chandralekha.

TN LANDSLIDE: RESCUE BID ON
MADURAI - A massive operation is underway to clear the debris in the
Megamalai area of the Western Ghats near Chinnamanur, 90 km from here
where plantation workers of 2 cardamom estates were feared buried alive
in a landslide on saturday last.

BOMB BLAST FORCES NZ TO CANCEL LANKA TOUR
COLOMBO - The New Zealand Cricket Team today decided to abandon their 5
week tour of Sri Lanka following a suicide bomb attack outside their
hotel here which killed the Island's Navy Commander, officials said.

NOV 18
======

ANOTHER CYCLONE BUILDING UP
MADRAS - While torrential rains continue to batter Tamil Nadu, Kerala and
parts of Karnataka, yet another cyclonic storm, the third since the onset
of the north-east monsoon, has emerged over the south-east Bay of Bengal.

SUBRAMANIAM SWAMY DIRECTED TO APPEAR IN COURT ON DEC 4

19 LTTE MEN ESCAPE FROM DETENTION CAMP
MADRAS - 19 LTTE militants escaped from a special detention camp in the
Vellore Central Jail Complex early this morning, according to police.
5 of them were later caught in Gudiyatham and a search is on for the rest.

NOV 19
======

ACID ATTACK ON CHANDRALEKHA
CHAVAN TO SEEK JAYA'S CONSENT FOR CBI PROBE
NEW DELHI - Union Home Minister S.B. Chavan will be asking TN CM
J.Jayalalitha on the permission to the CBI for probing the acid attack
on Ms. Chandralekha, IAS Officer who has sought retirement and joined
the Janata Party subsequently.

KIWI TOUR TO CONTINUE WITH REPLACEMENTS
COLOMBO - The New Zealand cricket team will continue their Sri Lankan tour
after replacing five players, and the coach, who voted to return home.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: e53gowrishan@skyfox.usask.ca
Subject: Testing
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:13:06 GMT

Hi Friends,
	This is only a testing, please ignore.
				Shan Gowrishankar.
From: fca00@chennai.ccc.amdahl.com (A. Francis Chandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: enRRum anpudan!
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:06:57 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <BxvEAt.CD9@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan) writes:
>
>Could you name some educational institutions in India
>where one could get a job by virtue of being a Brahmin ?


  Vivekananda College, Madras ??????????????

>
>-- rst
From: krvst+@pitt.edu (Koppampatt R Venkatesh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: enRRum anpudan!
Summary: Brahmin college !
Keywords: brahmin
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:41:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Another Brahmin institution ?

	VAISHNAVA COLLEGE, MADRAS

----
venkatesh



-- 
|    /      |~~~~~~|      \        /   ********************************
|  /        |______|       \      /    A shortcut is often the quickest
|/ \        |  \            \    /     way to some place you weren't
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From: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: AArambam: It's kadi time
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:30:42 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cive.egr.uh.edu

In article <1992Nov19.132127.14844@news.acns.nwu.edu> rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu  
(Raghavan Jayaraman) Gigabyte bites:
> In an application:-
> 
> " State your father's name.  If U don't know please attach a list of three
> possible suspects"  [Jokes deleted]
 This reminds me another joke which I read somewhere.
An actress while filling some application form for sth (let us assume
it as for passport) filled the sex column by writing "only in the 
nights". 
> Gigabyte
>  

Have fun,
venkat
--
venkat@jetson.uh.edu                | If you love something,set it free.
venkat@menudo.uh.edu                | If it comes back, it is yours.
venkat@uhupvm1.uh.edu               | If it does not, it never was.
aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu(NeXT mails OK)| 
(713)225-6426(h) & (713)743-4250(w) |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: AArambam: It's kadi time
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:21:27 GMT

At the outset lemme acknowledge the nice kadi stories  by Krishna [is this
correct?]. Don't worry. Soon I will be challenging U.


Padithadum PadiKathadum ........

------------

In an application:-

" State your father's name.  If U don't know please attach a list of three
possible suspects"
------------

In a clinic

Patient:- " Do U have anything for my baldness?"

Doctor:- " Yes! my  sympathy"
------------------------

Opthalmologist:- "Ok! inda 'chart"-il ullathai padinga"

Patient:- "doctor! neenga yenGE iruKINga?"

-------------------- 
In a bus stand:-

A kudi-magan irritated by the 'puntuality'   of buses

"enna sir! buss-u kiss-u kidaikuMA?"

The other person:- "buss-u vendumANAl kidaikum. ANA kiss-u anda amma
kodukaMAtAnga-nnu thonudu"
-------------------

Gigabyte
From: rkrithiv@pima.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: It has been fun....
Date: 19 Nov 1992 21:24:11 GMT
Organization: -----------
NNTP-Posting-Host: pima.intel.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: It has been fun....

> I have two simple questions for you(Mr. Parthasarathy):
   
  Hope you would mind if some body else nudges in. 

> In another words, do you really know the roots of the current war 
> and what built up to it(including Including India's messy input)? Keep 
> in mind that India's involvement made it worse than what it was. 

  "India" made a  mistake by  involving  too much  in the Sri Lankan
  problem. 

  But we  had our "masters" above us, the  Russian  bear, which used 
  us to its advantage in the Super  Power struggle. And it were them
  who directed much of the  action. We were  as much of tools in the 
  hands of the bear, as Sri Lankan tamizhs  were to Indian political
  system.  

  It treated the Sri Lankan issue, like mad dogs and a piece of rag. 
  Each trying to have a bigger piece of it to its advantage.ADMK/DMK
  /Cong et al. 

  The people who  really have to be  sympathized are the  Sri Lankan 
  civilian Tamizhs, and the IPKF, had they met elsewhere  other than 
  in a battle field. They would have been excellent friends. 

  Moral and  ethical  level in India  have degenerated a lot, mainly
  due to our political system.Inspite of the quagmire of a political
  system, and problems, if India  still continues it  is nothing but 
  a miracle. God's grace  and  the  "thava valimai" of our ancestors 
  and sages and seers. 
  [It is true, and it is also true it sounds sentimental. A language
   of the diplomats does not simply work here. ]

  It is this Bharatham, a punya bhoomi,which silently bears the pain 
  and all the insults hurled at her.And it is this land which within 
  four decades since 1947, been raped by our "parties" and "leaders". 

  And it them who SHOULD bear all the bloody blame. And not MY India. 
  In future please direct your ire and anger at those scoundrels.Not
  at my motherland. 

Krithi.
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: evargaL?...avargaL !
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:50:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.46186
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


There was a good amount of requests for the full lyrics
of this song, a piece of which I had posted as Minnal varigaL - 8
So here goes :

Movie : AvargaL.

Kamal :Junior! Junior! Junior!

Junior : yes boss!

Kamal : iru manam koNda thirumaNa vazhvil 
	idaiyinil nee yEn mayangugiRay ?
	ilagiya peNmai, iruvar kai bommai! En innum neeyum EngugiRai ?
	karaiyinil aadum naanalE nee..

Junior : naanal! nee? hihihihihi...

Kamal: karaiyinil aadum naanalE nee, nadhiyidam sondham thEdugiRay...

Junior :  siRpam onRu sirikka kandu rubber bommai Ekkam kondu
	kaathal keethal seiyya koodathO?
	chinnap paiyan vayasum konjam bommaik kenna manasaa panjam ?
	otti parthaal onRai chEraathO ?
Sujatha : hahahahaha !

(junior....)

stanza 1:

Kamal : kadaRkarai dhaagam adhu than unathu kaathalada !
	aduthavar raagam adhai nee paaduthal paavamada !
junior : if it is apoorva ragam ?
Kamal : (an irreproducible laugh )
	vayalukku thEvai mEgam enbai ! avaLathu thEvai arivayO ?(2)

Junior : paatai kandu raagam pottEn, 
	neerai kandu dhagam kondu paavam
	keevam paarkka koodathu !
Kamal : no! it's bad !
junior : but I am mad !
	paavappatta jenmam onRu 
	oomaik kELvi kEtkum pOdhu 
	aasai mOsam seiyyak koodaathu !
Kamal : (again an inimitable laugh...)
Junior : what kapa kapaa kapa kapaa hmm..?
Kamal : junior!
Junior : hm?
Kamal : Junior ! Junior! Junior !
(iru manam konda...)
 
Stanza 2:

Kamal : chiththirai maatham mazhaiyai thEdi vaaduginRay !
 	maargazhi maatham veiyilai thEdi oduginRay !

Junior : boss! love has no seasons or even reasons!
Kamal : shut up !

Kamal : udhayathai thEdi mErku nOkki ovvoru naalum enguginRay !

junior : adainchavanukku aippasi maasam ! 
	  EmanthalO april maasam!
	  adiyEn mudivai sollak koodathO ?
Kamal : its highly idiotic !
Junior : no boss ! only romantic !
Sujatha : hahahahaha!
Junior : konjum bommai paaduthu paattu ! 
	kuzhambiya nenjam sirikkuthu kEttu !
	mudivai cholli sirikkak koodathO?
Sujatha : hahahahaha!
junior : mudivai cholli sirikkak koodatho ?
Sujatha : hahahahaha!

kamal : junior! junior ! junior !

(iru manam konda...)

One of the greatest Kannadasan songs. Ain't it ?
(Dr. Kathiravan, don't you agree ?)

Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (R. Sritharan)
Subject: Re: enRRum anpudan!
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:02:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.054647.28545@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara) writes:
>
>
>
>In article <1992Nov12.230605.10713@b30.ingr.com> shiva@b30.ingr.com (Shiva Shiv
>akumar) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov12.045944.12951@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ssankara@magnus.
>acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara) writes:
>>>
>>>
>

Jagadisan Shivakumar says:

>>3. When Sujatha, in the novel, "Sivappu, Karuppu, Veluppu" wrote about
>>an Englishman looking at a Nadar woman and the author (who ensures that
>>every short story/novel has at least one reference to breasts)
>>put in some description of that woman, SOME Nadar community members
>>burnt the issues of Kumudham and the serial was discontinued.
>>

Sankarapandi says:

>     It was "kaRuppu, veLuppu, sivappu".  I have already explained about this 
>in another posting as the arrogance of the neo-Brahmin people of the recently
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^
>developed communities.  I will explain this neo-brahmin attitude later in
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>detail.
 ^^^^^^
>
>

[ portions deleted ]

>>I do not know....
>>
>>Waiting to be enlightened,
>>Jagadisan Shivakumar
>>>
>
>
>S. Sankarapandi

Great! Let us start some neo-brahmin bashing!

As a neo-brahmin, I am really offended !!!

-- rst
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: kuRaL
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:29:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University

In <92Nov21.175837.17925@acs.ucalgary.ca> nvenkate@acs.ucalgary.ca (Natarajan Venkateswaran) writes:

>Hi Netters,

>>	A. Natarajan writes
>>
>>"In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God!"
>>                                         St. John
>>"agara mudhala ezhuththellaam aadhi bhagavan mudhaRRE ulaku"
>>                                         ThiruvaLLuvar
>>
>		[Lots of good stuff deleted]
>>Cheer up everybody!
>>Natarajan, the "AIDS" American!
>>AryoIndoDravidioSanskritotamil- American, that is!
>>^   ^   ^       ^        

>	I have a question about the kuRaL. Does 'aadhi & bhagavan' in the
>above kuRaL refer to Thiruvalluvar's parents (seems like it) ?

>- V. Natarajan


 aathi and pahavan are not vaLLuvars parents.
  aathi-first, pahavan-as selva had explained-God;
  pahavan is someone who does paharthal.


 Kathiravan
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Minnal varigaL - 18
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:17:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.46257
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


	"Seethaavaip pirithathu maan dhaan - puLLimaan dhaan !
	 thOdhagach chErthathu  maan dhaan - anumaan dhaan ! "

	 (Not very deep in meaning...but note the word play with maan!)

	 From "oru dEvathai pOloru..."

	 Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil