HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Subject: Re: 9201 people will be more active
Organization: Penn State, Department of Physics
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:07:38 GMT

In article <Bw00Ct.KMn@news.orst.edu> wenz@ucs.orst.edu (Wen Zongyao) writes:
>
>There are so many other problems of China, a singal bill is not that 
>important.  Instead spend your time working on the so-called '9201', try
>to do something really can help China.  

	I agree on this point.  The signed bill itself is not the primary
damage to China at this time.  However, the false or biased image of
China created in the process of lobbying for this bill is.  

	I also agree that now we should concentrate on doing something 
that really can help China.  One of the things is to try to project
the true and unbiased image of China today, to present faithfully
the progress China has made since the tragic days of 1989, both
economically and politically.  I would like to see everyone here,
who would either accept or decline the offer this Bill made, now
to work hard on preserving China's open door policy and Sino-US
trade, especially in the possible Bill Clinton presidency.

	We can no longer sit around to see the China-bashing and the
threat to Sino-US trade.


    Eddie
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 9 Cai
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:57:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxa.Bvu03s.2oA
Distribution: usa
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1992Oct8.181937.6974@linus.mitre.org> 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao) writes:
> -| |-
> -| |-
> -| |-
>-------
>9 Cai4 (see above Chinese character) is very common vegetable.  I have two
>ways to cook it (see list below).  Could anyone add this list for me.
>Thanx.
>
>1) stir fry with Dou4Fu3Gan.
>2) stir fry with
>squid.

My 2 cents,
3) Stir fry with sliced beef. (got to be real chinese 9 Cai.

Tingli Pan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: 9201 people's reaction to the blood card and blood carders
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:57:43 GMT

In article <2AD5ED9D.8292@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)  
writes:
> 
> 1. One of primary goals of Action 9201 is to tell the true face of those
>    blood carders to the Chinese public and the US public.  We have done
>    significant amount of work on this.  And we will keep doing this!

I guess even Shannon Yeh needs face too. However, by doing so, he only lost  
face. It reminds me of "somebody make 10 more mistakes to cover up one  
mistake". Shannon, I am feeling sorry for you.

> 
> 2. If the bill has been signed, then, it means they are willing to offer
>    blood carders protection.  But George Bush's signature by no means
>    answer any single question I raised to blood carders.

Your questions are meanless. Why should anybody answer your questions. 

> 
> 3. We still believe that those blood carders are liers.  They  
Bu4Ze3Shou3Duan4
>    seek personal benefits by compromising the interests of the Chinese 
>    people in China.

Hitler once believed that all Jewish people were evils.

> 
> 4. I still believe that those protectees (i.e. blood carders) are coward--
>    history will not remember them as heroes.  Part of our 9201 extension
>    is to summarize this page of history.

Why should people be heros? You are amazing? You read too many books of  
Chairman Mao. People just want to be ordinary people. You are dreaming of being  
a hero and end up being a mad man (Mao certainly would appreciately you). Give  
you an advise, go back to China. Go to Jing3Gang1 Mountain with your 9201  
friends and start another Maoist revolution. See how many people will like you.

> 
> 5. By leaving those garbage in the US, the Chinese government, I guess, will
>    be happy.

It seems to me that you did everything for CG's interest in the past. How come  
this time you are against CG's interest? I guess it is the duty of a slave like  
you to make your master feel happy. How come this time you want to rebel?

> 
> shannon
> -------


Carl
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:27978 soc.culture.hongkong:12606 soc.culture.taiwan:14417
From: ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: SURVEY -- who do you hope wins the U.S. election?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:46:14 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct15.015821.20869@objy.com> cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung) writes:
>...
>and trouble to gather statistic like this.  Otherwise, I don't know of
>any better way to reach to the 'silent majority' to find out what the
>netters think about these two issues.

	Well, people should think about why they like to find out what the
	'silent majority' think first. IMO, the suvery questions suggest
	nothing but entertaining value; which is fine.

	Be aware, there are people who are 'silent majority' that don't
	think their opinion is nobody's business hence don't participate
	survey. And, of course, there are "noisy minority" who think along
	the same line; for example, me.


Yung-Kao Hsu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: 129.83.161.10 (H. Chao)
Subject: Re: Where Are 9201 Suctioners? Re: A statement on who paid for my effort
Organization: MITRE
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:31:44 GMT

In article <Bw5E4L.LuF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo
Xiong) writes:
> 
> In article <2ADCDF64.25191@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com 
> (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:
> >So far, all the 9201 effort is completely paid by myself.  I did not ask
> >for any donation from our 9201 colleagues or the Chinese government or
>                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Would you tell SCC who they WERE and where they ARE NOW?
> 
> As far as I can remember, you once had several weird guys on your board:
> 
> Scott Horne - now is missing from SCC (may be busy in making Capitalist
>               money as a Maoist :-)  Otherwise he could have helpped you
>               in your blow job as VP of 9201 Suction :-)
> 
> S. R. Zhang - You classmate in Tsinghua, now missing from SCC (he argued
>               with you even while he was on your 9201 board :-)
> 
> Chen Jian   - (The Australia one, the U.S. one is quiet on this issue :-)
>                Seems having been keeping distance from you :-)
> 
> Zuo Z.Q.    - Still nutty on SCC, but keeps himself away from you :-)
> 
> A guy in Germany -  Also disappeared from SCC.
> 
> ...  (May be you can count some sneaky supporters like Mr. Ding Y.J., your
>       Donkey rider at OSU and et al., but I doubt, seems you have got 
>       "Zhong4 Pan4 Qin1 Li2 le0" :-)
> 
> It looks like that you are Gunag1 Gan3 commander, but anyway, make correction
> if you feel like to, otherwise you are just "wrapping yourself with red flag
> as if it's a tiger skin/fur" (La1 Da4 Qi4, Zhuo4 Hu4 Pi4 :-)
> 
> Or, Wang Xiaofei has got an accurate Chinese Xie1 Hou4 Yu3 for you (see
> his dot matrix Chinese posting yesterday on SCC):
> 
> Mu3 Lao3 Hu3 Dao4 Pa2 Shu4 --  Hu3 Bi1 Chao2 Tian1  :-0  :-)  :-)
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Bo Xiong in Chicago
> 
> 

I realy do not know this personal attack article make any sense.  What I
can say except "Nei4Dou4 Nei4Hang2, Wai4Dou4 Wai4Hang2."  Learn something
from the fighting between KMT and CCP.  How to unify CSS is more important
than to further divide CSS.  Two brothers fight each other, I realy do not
know who will win.  Stop fighting!!

MSWD
From: zzhang@electron.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Where are the Japanese?
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:44:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Looking at the names of posters, I am suprised to see that very small 
percentage of people who post in this group are Japanese. Why is this?
Where are the Japanese? 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:52:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.225536.27862@news.acns.nwu.edu> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.184002.15132@ms.uky.edu> gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li) writes:
>> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <1992Oct6.171507.29459@ms.uky.edu> gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)  
>writes:
>> >> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>> >> 
>> >> >>Remains of Yue4 Fei1 and Qin2 Hui4.
>> >> 
>> >> >What have this to do with Yue Fei and Qin Hui? I guess modern China
>> >> >needs neither of them.
>> >> 
>> >> Unfortunately you always have these kind of people.
>> 
>> >Yes, there are always these two kinds of people, ultra-leftests and  
>> >ultra-rightests, just like there are always beggars, prostitutes and  
>> >religiously crazy people in a society. But this does not mean these people  
>are  
>> >the treasure of a society.
>> 
>> >Carl
>> 
>> Then go back to China and turn down the temple of Yue Fei.
>
>I am not a ultra-rightist. Why bother to burn the temple down? It is a good  
>place to suck tourists' money. It is also a place to ask people like Steve Lin  
>to pay 3 times as much as a Chinese does. Why should we burn it down? Only  
>stupid ultra-rightists will probably do this. To me, Temple of Yue Fei is as  
>same as Shao4 Lin2 Shi4 (Shaolin Temple).
>
>Carl


     Sounds from a real businessman. Any way, money is entirely
     bad thing. I just wonder if Mr. Lin has really interests 
     in going and seeing Yue Fei's Temple. 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:28065 soc.culture.taiwan:14473 soc.culture.hongkong:12662
From: wlin@byron.u.washington.edu (Wei Lin ~{AVgb~})
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: [Info] Table of Contents, HXWZ #81
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:43:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct16.054350.18590
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: Denny.Chuang@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Denny Chuang)
Subject: Chinese ETEN Software. 
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:42:22 GMT

>
> I don't want to sound dumb but what is Eten? Is it a BBS software, terminal
> program? My wife is Taiwanese and we may be interested.
>
>                                         Randy
 
        Tell you what I have receive only one order so far.
From my 20+ mails all of people are asking me to explain what ETEN is and some
are asking about the improvements over the older versions.  If you read
my message you'll get a very basic idea on what ETEN can do for you.
 
        Okay, let me start telling you about this ETEN software.  ETEN is a
software package that runs on PC and its compatibles. A hard disk is
recommanded. It supports VGA EGA & MONO monitors.  User can enter Chinese
Character by many different input method.  It supports many popular DOS
applications like Lotus, Dbase, Word and many other Programs.  For my purpose
I'm using it to run a communication program so that after loading ETEN software
users can call up my BBS and view Chinese Character on my BBS and they can
write messages to communicate with other people in Chinese language.
running Lotus and would like to enter some names under Chinese
You may also save your files in Chinese Characters, however if you don't
use ETEN you may not be able to recall it by using English letters.  In
general ETEN is a very popular Chinese System used in Taiwan.  If your
wife know how to write chinese character then it might be very helpful
for her to write letters or type documents in Chinese.
        I hope my explaination answers your question.
 
* The group discount ends on 10/25 (Sunday). Right now, I still need about
6 more people.  If you are interested in getting a copy please let me know
ASAP.
 
The ETEN package is $45.00 + $ 3.00 Shipping and you'll receive,
6 Disks
1 instruction Manual
Registeration Card (Of course)
3 different types of Chinese Fonts (Li, Ming, Kai fonts)
Printer Drivers for many popular 9 pin & 24 pin printers.
No HP LJ Printer Driver is included. See below (1)
 
NOTE:

(1)      In order to help some of you to print out files on HP printers I'm
going to send all the people with a copy of HP LJ Printer Utilities that
will let you print Chinese using HP LJ Printers. Also a copy of GB <-> Big5
conversion program and an extra input method (PIN-YIN).

    If you have any other question I will be gladly to answer them for you.
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From: liqiang@kramden.nyu.edu (Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:18:03 GMT
Organization: New York University

usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:

>Yue Fei might be a communist, who knows? Maybe communism was not introduced  
		    !!!!!!!!!  ?????????  ^^^^^
>into China but exported to Eurpoe. Knowing this, it is not so strange to know  
				    ^^^^^^^^^^^^                          ^^^^
				    So u know "this"?
>the CCP is still trying hard to keep China as a last base of communism. They do  
>it to keep our tradition of everyone should have an fair even share.

>Carl


Question A: Do u see the contradiction?

Question B: Is this posting a junk?


- Li, Qiang



Peter Piper picked a peck of little pepper.
Old McDonald has a farm, eieio,...
From: liao@milton.u.washington.edu (shiquan liao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: ******* FREE CREDIT CARDS *******
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:42:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct13.214203.26122
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


I have a visa from FisrtBank of Chicago(?), it is absolutely free of annual fee.
The card is named First Card. But it is not my first credit card though.
From: wei@isac.co.jp (Wei Hua)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: New topic: What do you eat and how do you prepare your food?
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:13:02 GMT
Organization: ISAC,Inc. (International Sekisui AI Corporation) JAPAN
In-reply-to: zyou@phakt.usc.edu's message of 5 Oct 92 18:59:06 GMT

Hi,
From: Congzhong.Wang@info.unine.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: ***** Yeh Shannon,  You are insane !!! *****
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:13:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

In article <81560@ut-emx.uucp>, ast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Abraham Shen Tong) writes:
> 
> Several things I don't get it:
> 
> (1) Where the hatred of Shannon come from.
> 
> I would say that because HE already HAS his greencard,  by spending 
> thousands of $s, he just cannot stay calm and watch other Chinese to
> get the same thing he has.    Dirty jealousy !!!
> 
> (2) Why Shannon treat CCP as his mother.
> 
> Because the CCP pays Shannon to do this.  Shannon is the grandson of 
> the dead Ye Jian-Ying, the hard liner. He got a lot money from the CCP
> which is from the common Chinese people.   If the CCP is down,  the 
> money source of Shannon will be dry.   
>  
> question:   anybody knows Yeh Shannon's  address/phone number ??? 

  Are you working in CIA, FBI or China National Security? Where your
information come from? Or you are just spreading rumours?
> ast
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Learn from Lei Feng
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:46:55 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

    I thought a couple of netters got their memory of Lei Feng at grade 5,
but someone seems to have it much early, in the kindergarten.  No wonder
they only remember Lei Feng as a good-doer :-).

    In article <BvrDIn.Mts@cs.psu.edu> (7 Oct 1992) Jin-Yuan Wu writes,

> A Chinese children song "I Found a One-Cent Coin on the Streetside" is
> recommended as a introduction of basic honest.

    That song is OK.  However, what adults sang when they learnt from
Lei Feng?  I still remember, _partially_, some sang frequently broadcast.

        Chang4 Zhi1  Shan1 Ge1  Gei3  Dang3 Ting1
        Wo3    Ba3   Dang3 Lai2 Bi3   Mu3   Qin1
        ...
        Gong4  Chan3 Dang3 Hao4 Zhao1 Wo3   Nao4 Ge2 Ming4
        Duo2   Guo4  Bian1 Zi   Zou4  Di2   Ren2

        Sing a sang for the party,
        Party is my dear mother,
        ...
        CCP taught me to revolt,
        Seize the whip and beat the enemy!

Another one,

        Xue2   Xi2    Lei2  Feng1 Hao3   Bang3 Yang4
        Zhong1 Yu2    Ren2  Min2  Zhong1 Yu2   Dang3
        Ai4    Zeng1  Fen1  Ming2 Bu4    Wang4 Ben3
        Li4    Chang2 Jian1 Ding4 Dou4   Zhi4  Ang2
        ...

        Learn from Lei Feng the role model,
        Loyal to the people, loyal to the party.
        Know who to love and who to hate,
        Never forget own class origin.
        Be politically correct,
        And fight with zeal.
        ...

> Try to find some ABC about Lei Feng.

    To find some sang may have more fun, as suggested by X Xu in article
<92282.002703XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu> (8 Oct 1992)

> Let's have a break, singing Xue Xi Lei Feng Hao Bang Yang.
>
> Any netter kindly posts the words of the song?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Oct. 1 or Oct. 10, which is the more important day for China?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 17:23:27 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Oct12.101351.3816@vax.muskingum.edu>, ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:
> In article <WN6-F=_@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@litotes.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
> > 
> > 	Oh man! you have completely missed the point!  Everybody on this
> > Net knows that Chiang's are crooks.  
> 
> 	** I beg your pardon here. Who is everybody on this net? 
> 
> 	   If Chiang's are crooks, you are at most, the same. Chances
> 	   are, you are worse.

	I appoligize for not using the right words here.  Apparently, 
there are quite a few die hard Chiang followers on this net.  Let me
furthermore qualify myself by saying that Chiang Chin Kuo, though has 
extreme amount of power, he is a very good president.  And Taiwan's 
economic success today does have alot to do with his contribution.

	But I think the old Chiang is still to be blamed for the bad
name KMT has today.  KMT was a good party with good intension and 
has a strong intellectual following.  That is before Dr. Sun Yat Sen
passed away.  After that.  Well... it's history. 

- C. H. Yang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhang@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Tao Zhang)
Subject: Looking for a place to live in Jersey City (New Jersey)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:13:18 GMT

	Hi, greetings to all!

	I am looking for a place to live in Jersey City (in New Jersey) 
or its vicinity, because I will be moving there in a week.
Could any one share with me some information on the housing situation 
down there? such as rent ranges, "good" and "bad" areas 
(you can measure the goodness and badness of an area by your own standards), 
and so on. I am most interested in reanting a room 
in a house or in an appartment, or renting an one-bedroom apartment.
If any one wants a housemate, please contact me via e-mail.

	Your help is greatly appreciated !

-- Tao 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:27239 soc.culture.taiwan:14170
From: lix@yangtze.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Hui4, Gui4 , or Kuai4 (Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:56:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.98058
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Oct8.170320.59541@cc.usu.edu> ma@cc.usu.edu writes:
>(deleted)
>(4) Talking about Sichuan hua4, Mr. Lin, do you know what Chui2ze (hammer)
>means in Sichuan hua4?        You can check YOUR dictionary although I doubt
>you can find it.   I myself didn't know it before, but I never say it is wrong.
>
>Ma

Well, another lecture to Mr. Lin. There is a true story about this. A young
Sichuan fellow is taking a English course. The teacher is a lady from Shanghai.
The textbook says hammer = Chui2ze. The Sicuan fellow is asked to tell what is
a hammer.

Ding Chui'r.

Wrong, try again.

Lang Tou'r.

Wrong again. Please try hard. Chairman Mao teaches us "Hao Hao Xue Xi..."

Chui2ze!!!!!!
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