From: cll5685@zeus.tamu.edu (LARUE, CHARLES L.)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Discrimination against whites is rampant
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:31 CST
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In article <1icioiINN3rr@debussy.crhc.uiuc.edu>, guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory) writes...
>cll5685@zeus.tamu.edu (LARUE, CHARLES L.) writes:
> 
>>How can you say that it is ludicrous?  There is a disproportionate number of
>>blacks in sports.  
> 
>Really?! How many black professional tennis players are there? Golfers? 
>Hockey players? Soccer players? Rowers? Skiiers? Ice skaters? Power lifters?
>Lacrosse players? 
> 
>The fact is that there is only one sport in which blacks are predominant, pro
>basketball. In the two most lucrative sports, the individual sports of tennis
>and golf, blacks are conspicuously absent.

Really?!  I would have to say that boxing is the most lucrative sport and I
have not seen a white heavyweight champ for a pretty long time.  In my
experience, I don't see a lot of blacks trying out for the golf team or the
tennis team.  Show me some statistics that say that blacks aspire to these
professions and are unable to achieve them.  I think you missed the whole point
here.  I will show you many white college football and basketball players who
would love the chance to play professionally.  You say that basketball is the
only sport where blacks are predominant.  Define predominant.  I see a
disproportionate number of blacks in many sports.  

My whole point is this.  Affirmative action works to make sure blacks are 
represented fairly in numbers in the workplace.  (Don't tell me how AA works, I
have had long talks with an affirmative action official, so I know).  I say 
that it works both ways.  If there are white dominated professions, people 
scream racism and try to change it.  I see disproportionate numbers of blacks 
in football, basketball, baseball, etc., so I am screaming racism against 
whites is occuring (to make a point).  There is not one iota of difference in 
my cry of racism and your cry of racism, although you would probably beg to 
differ.  I await the answer to one question:  What is the difference in the 
white man who aspires to play professional sports but is unable to and the 
black man who aspires to be a CEO but is unable to?  My answer:  Nothing, the 
door may be closed for both of them.  

>If you are going to make a broad, sweeping generalization such as the one above,
>please do not "cook" the data to suit your purpose. Include all sports. Professional
>basketball players make up only a tiny fraction of the professional athletes in 
>this country.

Stanford, I would have to say that you are the one that made sweeping
generalizations, not me.  Either that, or you know little about sports.  Come
up with stats that show blacks trying to succeed in tennis or golf or hockey
and being denied and I will listen to you.  If that were the case, then I would
say fix it, however, that is not the case.


>Stanford S. Guillory
>guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu
>

Charley








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