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From: kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple IIc acting STRANGE!
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:03:52 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: LaSalle University, Philadelphia, PA

There is a strange problem that has been occuring on my IIc for a
while now.  Here are the symptoms:  Sometimes the character generator in
the machine will go nuts distorting characters, or "snow" will appear on
the screen.  Other times the screen will totally flip out like someone has
messed with the monitor's horizontal hold.  A "hiss" can be heard when this
happens.

I know that the problem *IS* with the COMPUTER!  The monitor is FINE
and the video co-ax is FINE.  The problem is WITHIN the computer.  I
removed all the socketed chips (they seemed to have some kind of corrosion
on the pins which I partly removed) and re-seated them.  It seemed to help
for a while but the symptoms still show up.

The motherboard is a Unidisk 3.5" model and not a "old" type.  Is there
anything I should be looking at in particular?  Do IIc's have this problem
or am I an isolated case?  Any hints on where to start looking would be
helpful.  I'm running out of ideas.

Please followup to the address below because I don't follow this newsgroup.
Thanks for your help!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: genie vs. aol
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:45:35 GMT

There is really no way to indicate 'this is better' or 'that is better' for
an online service.  Certainly one can ask 'Which one is cheaper', 'Which
has the most volume of uploads', 'Which service do the people I want
to talk to reside', and so forth.  Then, after you ask the REAL questions,
you can decide which makes the most economic sense for you.  But there is
no service which can in full honesty be proclaimed the best.

Perhaps it would be useful for someone (not I - I am tired of volenteering
for these things and no one helping) to collect a series of these type
of questions, then collecting the answers from advocates of each of the
services, and preparing a summary paper!  That would be a great idea,
wouldn't it Joe K... <hint, hint, wink, wink>...

Please, if someone out there does take on this task, BE OBJECTIVE!  I 
am so sick and tired of the Genieites or the MAUGers or the AOLers or
the Internetters or the Proliners advocating their service as best.

Services to compare - at least the ones of which I am aware:

Commercial

Delphi
GEnie
Compuserve
America Online

Other
Internet
Bitnet
Usenet
ProLine
FidoNet

I am sure there are lots of smaller services out there but I think these
are the ones which are most likely able to be reached by folk somewhere in
the world.

Comparison of price ( WHILE IN THE APPLE II RELATED discussions and
FILE UP/DOWNLOADING ), number of files available, number of regular
members, number of companies providing APPLE II support, etc. could be
noted.

For the 'Other' category, things like price , etc. are going to be tough
to do to be honest.  Some folk get these 'free' because of work or school
affiliations while others have hourly or monthly charges.  And the list
of files is rather nebulous - there is no real database listing the files
as such, we wouldn't want to list duplicates, etc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: blaby@fraser.sfu.ca (John Edward Blaby)
Subject: Help for a friend: Was Re: Joystick readings from ML
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 06:42:42 GMT

This is a letter from a friend that has no access to the internet. He
is wondering what the problem is here and I figured the experts here
could help him out somewhat. Thanks !

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ From ] Trip Wire (#23)

  I'm having a minor problem with GSOS and my hard disk conflicting...
 I have a basic Apple //gs setup, Rom 03/w 2 megs, I have several peripherals
connected: A modem, 3.5" smartport drive, 2 disk ][ 5.25" drives, epson
printer, 40 meg Sider hard drive in slot 1 which I boot GSOS from, and a
Fujitsu 185 meg SCSI drive/w 256k cache in slot 7 with the Apple High Speed
 SCSI card, which has only prodos 8 stuff on it..
 
The problem is with my Fujitsu SCSI. It runs fine under Prodos 8, and
farely well under GSOS, except when the drive "recycles" or "auto parks"
 about every 5 - 6 minutes, if GSOS is reading or writting info on the drive
it doesn't stop and wait for it to finish recycling, and I get an error,
like "Having trouble accessing drive, disk may be damaged"..
 
under Prodos 8 it runs fine, which is why I have no trouble running my BBS,
 it waits for the drive to finish recycling, which takes roughly 2 seconds.
 GSOS is very impatient and doesn't wait, (usually after a cold boot it does)
but only once, every other time I get errors and the system will stop..
 
It was suggested by Apple Cananda that I try and get the source code for the
 SCSI Hard drive Driver, or to find someone who can re-write it..
I'm running System 6.0, and have tried under 5.04, it makes no difference.
 I've tried numorous configurations, turning the DMA off and on, turning
the GSOS Cache off and on, re-organizing the card/slot order, all SCSI
ID numbers, and connected an external terminator, and it makes no difference.
 do you know what is happening??  Apple Dealers are telling me it a problem
with the SCSI driver, is it fixable? I guess the word I need is HELP!

				Jamie Lange

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Well, there it is. Can any of you help him at all? Any ideas that he
may not have thought of.

Thanks again!
	John

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: fba10323@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG CHUN KEONG)
Subject: Epson LQ100
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:10:04 GMT
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 08:48:55 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <BvCpzM.J85@well.sf.ca.us>

In <BvCpzM.J85@well.sf.ca.us> Joe Kohn writes:
>in my upcoming inCider/A+ 'Way Cool System 6' article, I don;t think I even
>mentioned the Triad Venture product, but did mention rSounder.

Well, I'm excited.  The beta of rSounder 2 does support automatic sound rate
determination (if it is valid), more than one rSound/file, and uses the file
name as the resource name as the default.  That was the easy stuff, I am now
'putting off' the other stuff as it requires a new menubar, but it is what
is next, so I should start on it this week.

Pauley
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Gerald Lester, older P8
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  3 Oct 92 06:07:29 GMT

>From: gwlester@cpu.com (Gerald W. Lester)
>Subject: Older Prodos-8 progams and GS/OS 6.0
 
>        Does anyone know a how to get some "older" P8 programs to run under
>GS/OS V6.0?  Whe I try, I get a message to th effect that Prodos-8 is not
>compatible.  Do I have my installation messed up?
 
 
Gerald,
  1> a pet peeve of mine: System 6 does not equal GS/OS 6. GS/OS 4.01 is a part
of System Software 6. Roughly, ProDOS 16 was GS/OS v1.x, System 4 had GS/OS v2,
and System 5.0.x had GS/OS 3.0y. GS/OS is just one part of the System Software.
Other parts include the Toolbox updates, applications, and desk accessories.
 
2> The error message you seem to refer to indicates you are not using a
"matched set" of GS/OS and ProDOS 8. You must use certain versions of ProDOS 8
with certain versions of GS/OS because GS/OS patches P8's quit code to return
to GS/OS. eg: GS/OS 4.01 (System 6.0) must have ProDOS 8 v2.0.1, System 5.0.4
must have P8 1.9 and System 5.0.2 must have P8 1.8.
 
Basically, you need to reinstall some stuff.
 
jay.krell@cornell.edu
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: scanf discussion ... help me :)
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:39:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

The ORCA library sources are available from the ByteWorks... all are in
ASM65816 format... If you're interested in fixing the library function foe
the scanf suite, please send the fix to Mike Westerfield (although I don't
expect it to do any good there - I have a modified fopen() that lets you
select a resource fork instead of the data fork, and you wouldn't believe
the discussions Mike and I had about THAT!)

The major difficulty is not in patching the library... that's easy because
Mike was kind enough to sell the lib sources... the problem is more in the
inability to distribute "fixes" or get Mike to acknowlege a patch's legitimacy!

Marc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Jonathan N. Deitch)
Subject: Re: Apple //c self-test (was Re: Apple IIc acting STRANGE!)
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:59:33 GMT

guillaum@pogo.trl.oz.au (Andrew Guillaume) writes:


>G'day !

>My understanding is that there are at least three versions:
>- the original //c
>- the UniDisk 3.5 //c
>- the memory expansion //c
>Which of the "newer ones" has the built-in self test ? My //c was upgraded
>from the first to the second version, but ctrl-oa-ca-reset doesn't seem to
>do anything. Is there any way of calling the self test (via the monitor?)

Well ... the actual key command is supposed to be ctrl-closed apple-reset.

This will activate the self test on any //c.  It might have been both apples
for the first one, but it's definately closed apple on the Unidisk version.

'til later ...

- Jonathan Deitch

jdeitch@gisatl.fidonet.org
musjndx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sampling MASSIVE sounds
Date: 4 Oct 92 09:33:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sat Oct 03 92 at 10:44:40 (EST)

The press release on the SoundMeister card coming soon from ECON Tech. says
their software will allow to record to a hard drive.  The press release also
said that the card would allow 44.1 Khz sampling, but did not mention if that
rate was possible with a hard drive; I suspect it is possible.

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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Amrit, C/C++
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:57:50 GMT

uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:

>I'd like to see a C++ compiler for the IIGS.  Anyone? }:>

lcc with g++. Or go with the (rumoured) ORCA/C++.

Soenke
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: hal@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma)
Subject: Re: Sound files...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:57:34 GMT

Joe Kohn writes

> 
> From my perspetive, I much prefer using SoundConvert to using rSounder. The
> one time I did try rSounder, I didn't like that I had to guess what the
> sampling rate was, and as many different rates as I entered, it was just way
> too time consuming. With Mike Nuzzi's Sound Convert, it's just a matter of
> clicking on a couple of buttons; one to load the sound and one to save the
> sound as an rSound. No muss, no fuss.

	Guessing the play rate shouldn't be that hard. its either 22,000,
11,000, or 8,000 (or around there). Most of which are 22,000 or 11,000.The  
reason for this is that most of the sounds are ported from the mac or other  
platforms where the sound programs usually offer recording only in those
recording speeds. Sun and other Unix stations commonly use the 8,000 playback  
speed for the long playing sound files. Most GS programs on the other hand use  
this screwed up method of a recording rate (AudioZap 1.x and AE's software come  
to mind) which give no clue of the sampling rate, which I find to be a very  
ANNOYING and idiotic feature.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Comm Programs
From: <SAB121@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 05:03:46 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

Well, I finally took the time to download the directory at cco.caltech.edu
(pub/apple2/comm) and unpack it on my GS.  I was pleasently surprised at the
quality of the programs offered.  However, if the authors of the programs
are on the net, I have a few suggestions:

ANSITerm: Would it be too hard to add VT100 or VT220 emulation into this
beast?  I currently use my GS to connect to the mainframe at school, and
since we use a 3090 running VM/CMS, I need to use a really strange hookup to
come in, and all it recognizes is VT100.  Also I need kermit file transfer
protocol for the mainframe.  I know that this isn't a very popular protocol,
but for those of us who must work on the beasts, it's the only game in town.
I only really use those comm programs that have it (Currently Proterm)
because I like to stick with one program and learn it to the fullest extent
possible.  Also, since this is being used primarily to connect to IBM
boards, how about an unZIP feature?  This would come in handy constantly,
and maybe even a ZIP feature?

NOTE: All the comments for ANSITerm are equally valid for the next couple!
The only thing other than those that I did not like about ansi term is that
it is GS/OS based.  Read on for my comments on the other reviewed programs.

NOTE: The following programs require a GS, but run in Prodos8!  GenericTerm:
Ditto the comments for ANSITerm, and add Would it be too hard to add in a
dialing list?  And maybe macro support?

ColorTerm: Stupendous, but I could really use this more efficiently if it
allowed itself to use the standard control panel settings.  OOPPS: I just
noticed that THIS is the one that uses GS/OS, NOT ANSITERM!  Could you
rewrite this to run off of P8?  I usually bypass the GS/OS boot when I am
just checking my mail, etc.  and I really like the 8bit programs, as I can
use a simple P8 program selector to run them.

MEGATERM: Really liked it, keep up the good work, but it is a trifle slow.
Like your about box!  :)

Sorry if this is a little disjointed, but I've been up since 8am and it's
5am now!  :)

...Sal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: snelson@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Steven Nelson)
Subject: Re: GS relational database
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 23:32:20 GMT

From article <BvKFn2.Cno@CAM.ORG>, by vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry):
> 
> I would like to know how many people would like to see a 16 bit relational
> database system for the GS. Here's what I would put in it:
> 
> - Text interface w/pull down menus
> - Multiple database systems open at a time, each containing multiple
>   tables.
> - Table sharing
> - Two levels of record selection (Advanced & Powerful // Quick & Easy)
> - Run under GNO/ME or any other shell -- or standalone.
> - File size limited by disk space.
> - Alphanumeric fields, Integer fields, LongInts, Words, Bytes, DblLongWrd,
>   SANE number, date fields, paragraph fields (multiline)
> - Pieces (tables, querries, reports, forms, scripts) can be mixed and
>   matched from one database to another.
> 
> Maybe more.
> 
> Phil
> vandry@Cam.Org

Yes! Yes! Yes!  Thanks for offering to write one, Phil :)

Or can you suggest/recommend one?

  --Steve
From: kubis@plains.NoDak.edu (Steve Kubis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Eamon?
Summary: Where can I find Eamon?
Keywords: Eamon
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:08:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20761
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Hi,

   A couple weeks back, Eamon was posted to Comp.Binaries.Apple2.  The local
Unix machine was having troubles and I didn't get all the pieces.  Does
anybody know where I can find this?  Thanks!

Steve
kubis@plains.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Resurrection!!!!!
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:51:01 GMT

lchavas@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (Linda Catherine Havas) writes:

>My IIc is BACK!!!

Congrats. BTW, your '!' key seems to need repair ;-)

>Still, though, the GS my friends are selling looks awfully appealing.
>So what are your thoughts? Do I continue pouring money into the
>IIc, which isn't really supported anymore, or do I just blow the
>big bucks and get a newer (and possibly more reliable) GS? Anyone
>have any opinions they'd like to share? PLEASE?

Sure. A) Be very aware of the fact the the GS is _not_ the power
machine of today (and not the medium-sized machine of today, either).
B) Keep in mind that in order to use your GS, you need at least a HD and
an accelerator.
So, try to get it _really_ cheap. This should be possible now, as the GS
is virtually worthless (not to me, but in the used computer market). I think
it depends on what you want to do with the computer ... if you're into gra-
phics, I'd say stay away from the GS. If you're into highly CPU-intensive
things, stay away. If you are into all the newest and hottest games, stay
away. In all these cases, you are indeed better off with an IBM (yuck)
system, possibly running OS/2.
On the other hand, the GS is perfect for small home use, for experimenting
with a computer and programming w/o getting punished by a brain-dead OS
all the time, and for having fun with the famous // community.

Yours

Soenke
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From: vagrant@vpnet.chi.il.us (Guy Umbright)
Subject: Which Logitech mice?
Summary: Q about which logitech mice work with GS
Keywords: mice, gs, logitech
Organization: Vpnet - Free Usenet access
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Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 13:45:30 GMT

Could some one post which of the Logitech mice/pointing devices
will 'plug and play' with the Apple II GS?  My Apple mouse is
getting a little quirky and I never did like it much anyways.
Oh, for a Microsoft bar of soap...
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From: cust_ts@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: DOS 3.3 Launcher
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:25:39 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

What is KEY.BORED in the DOS launcher archive? GSHK can't extract it on
the archive I got (from c.b.a2). Is it needed, where should I put it?

Thanks for the info.
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From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple IIGS NTSC
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:36:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed Sep 30 92 at 05:58:34 (EST)

Here's what I know about connecting the GS to VCRs:

The GS outputs COMPOSITE video and not NTSC video.  That just means that you
can hook it up to a VCR and record or display things on a TV, but to get
better output, you need a RF modulator, available at Radio Shack.  I don't
understand what the problem is with your setup, as long as the VCR is set to
channel 3, the VCR is hooke to the TV, the TV is set to channel 3.  The
problem may be that you have an antenna input connected to the VCR and the VCR
is set to receive antenna connections; if that is the case, then there should
be a switch to make the VCR receive the video in signal.  The best thing I can
say is that as long as the GS is working properly, the problem isn't there. 
The GS outputs video to both the RGB connector and the composite connector at
the same time.

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From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Identifying strange GS PartsPreviously Grover Thomas wrote:
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 09:50:42 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

 
>Recently I have been having a strange semi-recurring problem
>with my GS logic board, but I can't seem to nail down any specific
>component.
>
>The GS often acts like the Apple and/or Option keys are
>being activated/deactivated.  Sometimes the machine boots
>into the self-test, or even the Screen-settings (like
>50-60Hz settings, Alternate screen mode, etc...)
 
This happened to me once and someone suggested me to disconnect my
joystick and turn on my GS again. It worked. On another occasion a
binder was on one of the buttons of my joystick and I again went into
the above problems. If this doesn't work, try to disconect your
keyboard and reconnect it. Can't think of much else. Hope this helps.

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