From: nils@suca01.cern.ch (Nils-Joar Hoimyr)
Subject: Re: Hatred? What Hatred?
Organization: CERN,  European Organization for Nuclear Research
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:47:17 GMT

In article <1gl3ogINNf2i@PASCAL.MATH.YALE.EDU>, wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu (Victor Wickerhauser) writes:
> In article <1gje1vINN8pn@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> popovicj@ucs.orst.edu (Jovan Popovic) writes:
> >
> >And recently when I checked my mail I found the note of the following content:
> >
> >| From: Khalid Shah <kshah@huey.csun.edu>
> >| Subject: For an serbian-chetniks liar and scum
> >| Date: Mon, 7 Dec 92 2:16:53 PST
> >|
> >| Would you like your mother or wife to be gang raped , you  dirty liar ?
> >| You said you don't understand the conflict.
> >| You said who the Kenny and Dugan are .
> >| All of you serbs know what is going on in Bosnia , but you are dirty liars.
> >| This is the second time that Bosnian muslim's throats are slit .
> >| You know very well what your damned nation did to Bosnian muslims
> >| in W W 2 ; 300,000 butchured muslims.
> >| You are going to pay for both.We are going to win , god willing , and you
> >| will be damned and cursed nation until the judgement day.I will fight
> >| for Bosnia as thousands of other muslims .
> >| You will end up like Russia in Afghanistan.
> >| But,listen dirty liar, we will not rape your mothers and wives and daughters.
> >| And we will not open up your pregnant women , you bastard.
> >
> >Well, I guess this is the hatred I talked about.
> 
> Looks more like contempt to me.  Well-deserved, too.  War crimes will
> not be rationalized away with a sappy balm of platitudes.  How can
> anyone expect that a few tears for `bratstvo i jedinstvo' will wash
> the stain off those monsters who right now are committing the basest
> atrocities since Vlad the Impaler.
> 
> In this light, Khalid Shah seems downright polite.
> -- 
> Prof. M. Victor Wickerhauser                      <victor@kirk.wustl.edu>
> Department of Mathematics, Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130 USA
> Telephone:  USA(314)935-6771, USA(314)727-0749;     FAX: USA(314)727-4963
> Sto se ljuckim trudom uzdignulo, Ljuckim znojem jopet se ponavlja. --Medo Pucic

Victor W.:  (And Khalid S.)

Do you think we ever will get peace if you judge people by nationality and not for
their behaviour and opinions?

I do indeed agree that war-criminals in Bosnia-Herzegovina should be stopped and
punished for their crimes.  I do also consider the Milosevic regime in Serbia and
his puppets in Bosnia responsible for plenty of the horrible things going on.
But most Serbs are normal people like you and I, and would like to stop this war 
and punish criminals as well. (if they know what is really going on.)  

Be reasonable and do not stir up the hatred even more!

Croatia is not exacly innocent in this war either, and if one looks at some of the 
postings with Croat origin in this newsgroups, it is easy to become 
frightened when  you see that educated people with access to a University network have
such primitive views.   It looks like some of you would be more
than happy if Serbia was bombed to pieces, and thousands of civilians were killed.  

The "Hate mail" sent to Jovan Popovic by Khalid Shah is containg the same Jihad (holy war)
stuff as Serbian Warlords use to justify the war in Bosnia.  I'm sure Kahlid Shah
is not Bosnian, and we all know that claims that the official B-H government has had
a policy of "jihad" towards Serbs is basically Serbian propaganda bullshit. 

Any attempts to defend such attempts to increase the hatred even more are disgusting, 
nothing else.

Professor Victor Wickerhauser, you should be ashamed of yourself!



p.s.   Thanks to Ana M. Shane for trying to establish a more reasonable discussion on
this group.  
  
Are anyone aware of efforts from Western countries to help the Serbian opposition 
to establish alternative TV-senders to Milosevic-controlled TV-Serbia? 


cheers Nils
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna