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From: linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rec.Arts.DS9.Odo.Hollow.BS! :)
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:50:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, UCLA

In a previous article 00jlrushton@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu spake...
>
>
>
>Who gives a crap if Odo is solid or not!
>Argh please more on to subjects like....
>
>What would happen if Odo morphed into Bill Clinton!

Or worse, what if he morphed into Troi. Naaah, that'd violate that
conservation of mass thing again! (Sorry, couldn't resist)
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From: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford)
Subject: Re: BABEL
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:31:37 GMT

In article <81687@hydra.gatech.EDU> jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE) writes:
>Oops, I guess that sounded a bit theo-centric.  I don't mean to sound
>so matter-of-fact about this, but I always figured it was a fairly
>common story.  The Tower of Babel was a structure built by the I-don't-
>know-whoians to reach God.  God punished man his egocentricity by
>scrambling the language of the workers into countless different   
>languages, making it impossible for them to work together on the Tower.
>
Indeed, were these not the Babolians?  Hence, the Tower of Babel.

Jeff 

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From: david@xlnt.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Picard's family
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:25:29 GMT
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc (XDI)

In article <1993Jan25.053550.8821@admiral.uucp>, dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
|> In article <1342@xlnt.COM> david@xlnt.com (David Johnson) writes:
|> >In article <HJkmXB5w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US>, pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
|> >|> somaiah@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Somaiah Kumbera) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> >    And while at it, could someone tell me why Picard has an English
|> >|> > accent when he's supposed to be from France?
|> >|> 
|> >|> For the same reason that Dr. Bashir has an English accent: because he
|> >|> learned English from someone who does.
|> >
|> >
|> >When I went to China, I met a Chinese man who spoke English without an
|> >accent, ie. he sounds English as opposed to American or Chinese.
|> >I am pretty sure he had never been to the UK.
|> 
|> You mean he had an English accent. Which probably means he was taught 
|> english by an Englishman. Many Indians (not Native Americans) speak english
|> with an english accent because for a very long time there was a large English
|> population in India. With Hong Kong being an English holding (for a few
|> more years, anyway) there is also a large English population there.

If you speak like the natives, I would not consider it an accent.

|> 
|> >
|> >I can speak three languages without an accent.  Why do people think
|> >it would be impossible for Frenchman to speak English without an accent
|> >like Picard?  In Europe, people have a lot of contact with people from
|> >other countries and learn other languages, unlike most Americans.
|> 
|> Are you saying you speak without an accent, or do other people, native
|> speakers of the language, tell you that you don't have an accent?

I am consistent in my posting that "without an accent" means no accent
with respect to native speakers.  The Chinese man who spoke English without
an accent means he spoke English with no accent wrt native speakers of
real standard English (ie. the Queen's English).

If I spoke those 3 languages with southern Californian rhythm,
intonation and pronounciation (I am a SoCal native),
I would say that is speaking with an accent.

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From: carlson@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Richard Carlson)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 15:35:29 GMT
Subject: Re: The Wonderful World of Syndication ( was Re: fox and ds9?)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current

In rec.arts.startrek.current, demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo ) writes:
> ..here in Boston, for instance, TNG is carried on our local ABC 
> affiliate...right before ABC prime time on Saturday night. DS9, 
> however, is playing on local station 56, which is (I believe) a 
> Fox carrier. (Incidently, the ABC affiliate here is *pissed* that
> they lost the DS9 bid...) 

They shouldn't be so upset.  This way, they get an extra 30 seconds of
free commercial time during each TNG episode, after they remove the
ad for DS9. :-)
From: cw@carson.u.washington.edu (Cheryl Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: What about the men??
Date: 24 Jan 1993 08:31:35 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

I think that Worf is the sexiest man in Starfleet, that we've seen.  
Not a "babe", but *sexy*.  His voice is fantastic -- great bedroom
quality there.  He's trapped between two worlds and is trying to
maintain his identity in both without giving up his sense of self.
I find this gives him a delicious exotic quality.  His body language
is confident, without being arrogant.  Plus (obligatory commentary!)
he has a great butt.  I don't ordinarily go for men with beards,
but his goes with his face.

I always flinch when the writers make him wimp out...make RIKER miss
with a phaser, ok?

Cheryl Walker, cw@carson.u.washington.edu -- sigless but happy.
From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: I am in the Kira Fan Club!!!
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:16:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HNSX SuperComputers, Mtl, PQ

In article <ivy.727566562@camelot> ivy@camelot.bradley.edu (Ivelisse Atiles) writes:
>
>Oh, wait... is this a list for guys?

No way! As far as I'm concerned, I will put anyone on the list
who is a Kira fan.

>I think she's a great role model.  Her position
>also allows her to be bitchy and get away with it.
>8)

Yes, this is true.

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E-mail: ellison@SX.Mont.NEC.COM
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: TNG's funniest moments
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:36:50 GMT
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO


The end of "A Fistful of Datas," when the female Data comes up to put
the moves on Worf ... :-)

I would vote for "A Fistful of Datas" and "Deja Q" as the two funniest
episodes, with perhaps "The Royale" third (I know, I know, but *I*
like it ... :-).

--
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Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart question
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:06:00 GMT

In article <86608@ut-emx.uucp> rebecca@order.ph.utexas.edu (Rebecca McGowan) writes:
>Is Patrick Stewart married?  If so, to whom?  I heard a very unlikely
>rumor which I won't repeat, but I would like any reliable info.

He IS married and he's NOT gay.


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From: dormrec@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Halter )
Subject: Re: Top Ten Guys from TNG/DS9
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:07:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.165210.10522@ac.dal.ca> novanet@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Here is my top ten guys list: (10 worst, 1 best)
>10) Devenani Ral
> 9) Aaron from "Masterpiece Society"
> 8) Worf 
> 7) Okona from "The Outrageous Okona"
> 6) Data
> 5) Capt. Picard
> 4) Wyatt Miller from "Haven"
> 3) Ensign Lucky from "Man of the People"
> 2) Dr. Bashir
> 1) Cmdr. Riker

	Where's Wesley???
>
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From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DS9: Kira Fan List
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:16:51 GMT
Organization: HNSX SuperComputers, Mtl, PQ

Here's the latest installment of the list:

Roland Besserer 		J.Marc Chabot
Gregory O. Harp 		Thor Iverson
Ellison Chan 			Louis Ting
Christian Gadeken 		Ken Papai
Johnny Piscitello 		Gayle Gamble
Rick Gualtieri 			Cameron Williams
Han-Young Huang 		Mary Ellen Foster
Don Rentfrow 			Douglas Parvin
Bernie Luger 			Neil Buesing
John A. Burns 			Sarah Simons
Danny Barnes 			Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg
Jeff Hochberg 			Vicki Holzhauer
Teebu Philip 			Drew Dowling
Somaiah Kumbera 		Martin Phipps
Jammer Jim Miller 		Keith Brown
Robert DeMillo 			Cory Padfield
Toby Padfield 			Jerome Paradis
Ivelisse Atiles 		Darren Gemoets
Christian Walters 		Justice
Fady Habra 			Darryl Hackett
Patrick Chester 		Frank Mitchell
Michele Guillet 		
 			
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: STTNG Video Club
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:08:30 EST

In article <Bob_Hearn-220193103910@192.35.50.165>
Bob_Hearn@qm.claris.com (Robert Hearn) writes:
 
>
>In article <1993Jan21.152717.18104@newsgate.sps.mot.com>,
>reed@prism.sps.mot.com (Tim Reed) wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm very happy today. I just joined the STTNG video club from
>> Columbia House. I've been wanting to join for about a year but didn't
>> know how to go about it. I can't wait to start receiving the videos.
>> Will they come in the order they were broadcast?
>>
>
>
>You can look forward to paying about 5$ per tape more than you would
>in a video store.  As far as I know, they come in order, but it's only
>the first season.  I think that's all that's out on videotape yet.
>
>
    My understanding (which could, of course, be wrong.  I haven't opened
those envelopes that they send me every once in a while for quite a while
now), is that since each tape contains TWO episodes, the net cost becomes
somewhat cheaper than retail.
   However, of course, since there ARE two episodes per tape, if one is
a dud, you have a problem.
   Also, doesn't these video clubs or book clubs which send stuff on a
monthly basis automatically, drop you from their club if you send back
too many books?  [That's what happened to me with Issac Asimov Book Club
last year.]
    (Now if they started from the third season....)
 
     Junsok Yang
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From: mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN)
Subject: Re: Question/SPOILER on DS9:"A Man Alone"
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 06:31:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.144512.2595@inland.com> tanski@inland.com writes:
>Possible Spoiler with an inquiry
>
>During the DS9 episode "A Man Alone," the discussion in which the 
>entry into the holosimulator (?) could have been done be a shape-shifter,
>one then wonders how did the knife get in?  Although Odo could have made
>part of himself (itself?) into a knife, he would then have to leave
>part of him behind since the knife was still in the body.  Is this a
>flaw in that arguement?  If this has been debated already, what was the
>thread so I can catch up and sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

Well, the problem wasn't that an object couldn't have gotten in.
What they noted was that the only DNA in the holosuite was the 
DNA of a murdered man.  So the only way somebody could have gotten
in and out if they left _no_ DNA residue was if that person was
a shapeshifter.  The knife could have been solid as anything, and
taken out or left in the body, because it would have had no DNA
residue on it but that of the murdered man if the person was a shapeshifter.
The knife itself would leave no trace of DNA behind.

Marc
mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu
 

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From: clj6357@summa.tamu.edu (JOHNSON, CARL LYNN, JR)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rating of women on ST/ST:TNG/ DS9
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:22 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan23.030640.17766@news.uakron.edu>, dskowron@serj.polymer.uakron.edu (Daniel Skowronski) writes...
>With 10 being the sexist being to grace the screen, I rank
> 
>Tasha Yar......10.0  < !!!!!!!!!!!!??????????

YYYYYYYYAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are you think?

You must need a new picture tube for your TV.

IMHO, Yar doesn't deserve a rating greater than 3.

*****

"If swimming is good for the figure, why do whales look the way they do?"



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From: mcohen@ravel.udel.edu (Michael Roger Cohen)
Subject: Re: Suits, Money, etc. (was: line from "Past Prologue")
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:20:26 GMT

Maybe all the rest of the universe still uses money.  Maybe only the Federation
has abolished the use of money.  If so, the Kligons still need money, and so does the rest of the universe.  Why is there a GAMBLING casino on DS9?  Not just for fun, but also to make a profit (for Quark and for possible winners).


my 2 pesos worth  (not much)
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:42:40 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <74181@cup.portal.com> BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn) writes:
>>Well, whaddya know.  Michael and I finally agree on an entry for the
>>"Worst Ten" list!  (We've never agreed about "The Royale." :-) "Qpid"
>>is an episode that I'll always stay away from.  I don't even like the
>>"merry man" line, partly because I saw Michael Dorn at a Denver Con
>>say how much *he* hated that episode and having to say that line (too
>>funny for Worf, I guess).  The thing I hate about "Qpid" the most is
>>that it has Vash in it.  I can't handle "Captain's Holiday" for the
>>same reason, although it is a better story.  That woman really gets
>>under my skin; I can't tolerate her face on my tube.
>
>
>    Geez, don't you folks have a sense of humor? QPid was clearly
>    meant for laughs. Not to thrill, not for drama, not to preach
>    (any episode that doesn't preach should earn bonus points)
>    just to make us laugh. And it did that very well.
>    *Picard trying to hide his relationship with Vash
>    *Vash and Beverly going off to exchange Picard notes
>    *Picard: "Number One, I've just had a visit from Q"
>     Riker: "I'll alert the crew..."
>    *Q's enticing Picard with the archaelogical dig of a lifetime
>    *Deanna's very bad aim with an arrow
>    *Worf's final solution to Geordi's lire playing
>    *Picard's difficulties climbing in the window
>    *Picard's arguing with Vash in mid-escape    
>
Homage to at least two great comedies:  The above mention Worf solution to
Geordi's lute is from Animal House and Picard's "I'm not from Nottingham"
line is reminscent of the line(s) from The Princess Bride "I am not left
handed!"

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From: morgan@nolichucky.rtp.dg.com (Keith Morgan)
Subject: Re: DS9:Bajorans use Macintoshes!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:41:38 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <2fuL029533Nn01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, wlm10@cd.amdahl.com (William L Moore) writes:
|> I watched "Past Prologue" again last night.  In a brief scene, Kira 
|> is reading a "Bajoran Intelligence Net" file on a computer screen.  
|> We can clearly see that the screen font is . . . Chicago!  The 
|> default system font on the Macintosh!  (I typed the same text on a 
|> Mac and compared.  No doubt about it.)
|> 
|> This raises a multitude of questions about the computer of choice in 
|> the 24th century.  I'll betcha Klingons use PCs.
|> 

Nah, IBM 360s, and they only program in assembler.  

|> Seriously, though, I realize that all of the computer screen effects 
|> in TNG and DS9 are indeed done on Macs by Mike Okuda.  Nevertheless, 
|> I was amused by the bold use of such an obvious, familiar font.

Apple probably paid dearly for this "bold use".  The TV & movie companies are no
slouches on finding ways to turn a buck, and companies pay big $ to have
their products used in popular shows, even in brief flashes where only someone
familiar with the product in question might recognize it.  Look for the Data
General Aviion in "Patriot Games".  I see 'em every day, and I barely caught
a glimpse of it when it flashed by in the background, but I'll bet we paid
more than my annual salary for that flash.

|> 
|> -Bill Moore
|>  wlm10@cd.amdahl.com

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From: kreidler@convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de (Homer Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Kill Troi fan club
Date: 24 Jan 1993 16:02:08 +0100
Organization: Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: convex.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

Hey! How can yout write so negative about the most beautiful character in the
series? Ok, what she says, sounds a bit dumb sometimes, but nevertheless i
like her. For me, she's the main reason to see the new series.

Flame on you Troi-haters! 8-)

Kay Kreidler
Dept. Of Inorganic Chemistry
Heinrich-Heine_university Duesseldorf
Germany

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: TNG Companion
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:27:39 GMT

In article <mcook.727804996@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com> mcook@fendahl.dev.cdx.mot.com (Michael Cook) writes:
>dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>
>>In article <4812@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>>>You must be a Quayle lover, since the correct term is indeed "Tim and I"  Me
>>>is not supposed to be used in that context.
>
>>Vidiot is correct. To test the phrase (or any like it) remove the other person
>>so it's only about yourself. Instead of "like Tim and I," it becomes
>>"Like I" which is obviously incorrect. In this case "Tim and me" is correct
>>("Like me...")
>
>You say Vidiot is correct, and then you go on to explain why he is wrong.
>He argued for "Like I".

Yeah, I noticed that when the thread made its way back to our site here... 
I wrote that at 4 in the morning, I think my brain was a little fried.
Still, I got the grammar right, which is all that matters (to me, anyway).


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From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Canon vs. non-Canon is a r.a.s.misc question
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:41:13 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

sg0d@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEPHEN R. GILBERT) writes:
>Isn't it?

Given the propensity for usenet discussions to wander
off the topic without a change to the Subject: line,
how worthwhile is a newsgroup dedicated to "current"
discussions?

Get real.


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From: hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: English as Earth's standard language in the 24th Cent.?
Date: 24 Jan 93 07:43:34 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

Somebody mentioned that English was supposed to be the standard language
in the 24th century (on Earth at least).
Several facts actually work against that:
- Picard is a fluent French native and he speaks that language with his
family and French friends (at least that's what it's supposed to be
though the writers don't know enough French to actually do that, I
guess)
- Chekov is obviously a Russian native and Sulu a Japanese. Since there
is only a generation of time difference I doubt that English has taken
over that fast. Why shouldn't these languages not exist anymore a
generation later?
- Considering the Prime Directive as Starfleet's main rule and probably
also in essence a rule of the UFP and probably Earth's policies in the
future it would suggest that the culture and language of "minorities"
would be supported and their surviving more or less guaranteed.
Considering that French, Russian and Japanese are somewhat proud and
obnoxious about their country's language it is very well possible that
the languages are still used and will not die soon.
(In fact, it is one of the EC's policies to keep up all languages in
Europe -- an example to what Earth's future policies might look like)
It is understandable, though, that English might be used as standard
language to communicate between nations on Earth and in the UFP. I would
think that most of Earth's population might be bilingual then, and could
therefore speak two languages fluently and rather accent-free. (Being
accent-free is quite possible, just to contradict that person who wrote
it wasn't)
But that seems to contradict Chekov's heavy Russian accent...

-Nicolas 
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