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From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Doggie Acne? (Re: Skin Allergies)
Date: 27 Dec 92 04:06:28 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <1heap8INNi1q@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Johann Sebastian Batchjob) writes:
> We have a shepard mix that has a strange skin condition and I am at a loss
> as to what to try next.
> 
> Here are the symptoms:
>   Skin turns red, and is hot, then gets darker, almost black.
>   He'll bite his fur out and scratch all over.

If your dog is an adolescent (Chew-Bear is :), it sounds like he has
doggie acne. I am not kidding. My chow had/has it occasionally and I
got medication for it from my vet. 


>   His nose runs and he scratches it with his forepaws and the carpet.
>   Sometimes, when he has fur, he gets little scabs on his back, about the 
>     diameter of a pencil...

Yepper...

> 
> Beej & Teej owners of Sam and the Renovator
> -- 
> atman@ecst.csuchico.edu  ||  I have jesus in a jelly jar.
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> "My name is Den Dennis.  I play rhythm guitar for Bad News.  My favorite food
> is curry, because it's open late at night." 
Xref: sparky rec.pets.dogs:15548 rec.pets:4152 talk.bizarre:43118
From: carasso@Turing.ORG (Roger Carasso)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier Stud Needed
Keywords: Boston Terrier
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:33:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs,misc.test,talk.bizarre,rec.pets
Distribution: na
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host

julieann@cmhcsys.cmhcsys.com (Julieann Fitchwell) writes:
>My three year old female Boston will be coming into season sometime this
>Spring and I would like to breed her with a high quality stud. She is
>registered (AKC) and is pet quality. 

Is it just me, or is it getting hot in here?

...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Subject: Kill Files  was: Re: Netiquette
Reply-To: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Lab
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:45:30 GMT

|> Gee, <name deleted>, thanks for posting a PRIVATE E-MAIL MESSAGE across the entire
|> net.  I decided to send you a private message in case I was wrong,
|> and you post it to the whole universe.  Obviously, I can't trust you to
|> obey simple netiquette.  You're in my author kill file from now on.
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> -- 
|> -----------------------------                                              
|> SKY WARRIOR aka MLH Bonham  | "Good tea.  Nice House." -- Lt. Worf
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|>                             | Iditarod near you!
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Sky :-),

I hope you don't really do this.  What worries me about putting people
who are very free with advice in your kill file, is you don't see what
advice they may be giving someone who could really use your advice. I know
that it is sometimes hard to read what others might have to say, but so
many of you folks on r.p.d have good advice and it needs to be shared.

Let's take a hypothetical situation, shall we: Suppose that this very
out spoken, sure of themselves, never wrong, very one way about things person
falls to sleep with a dog book in their hands. Then just suppose they sleep
for 100 years and wake up. The dog book is dusty and moldy, but they have access to a computer network. Hey, they can save the rest of the doggy owners
from all sorts of problems. They've read the book, they've had years (100?)
of experience, and they've also been dreaming up great ideas for how to
handle dog problems (shoot the dog?). And I ain't talk'n Rip Van Winkle ;-).

I think people like you need to be around for balance and comfort when someone
gets a message like "kill your dog" for the slightest problem. If one person
on r.p.d does this without any balancing opinions, what will the world think
of us and what will happen to the dogs.

Please Think about it,

-Kayti
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Re: Allergic Reaction- Swelling, how fast?
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:27:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.170939.28792@inel.gov> kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson) writes:
>In article <Bzq0t6.4oG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu () writes:
>>(Peter said if I worried half as much about my own health as I
>>am about the pets' health I'd be in the doctor's office every other
>>day!)
>
>
>If anything is wrong with our animals we just take
>them to the vet's office without worrying about an appointment --

		   <some text deleted>

	Kay, I'm surprised that since no one is home to watch Siegfried that
your vet didn't suggest that you drop him off at the vets office. That way,
even if your vet is busy, a technician could watch for further swelling,
difficult breathing, etc.
	I saw a some photos of a dog that was bitten by a rattlesnake and the
swelling occured very soon after the bite. Hopefully, Siegfried's swelling had
reached its maximum before you left for work, but I'd have someone check him
asap just to make sure.

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NORWOOD KENNELS   |Retrievers who do therapy dog work, a disobedient but
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From: alan@squid.hi.com (Alan Greenspan)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Doggie Odors
Date: 2 Jan 1993 20:43:05 -0000
Organization: Hitachi Computer Products, OSSD division
NNTP-Posting-Host: squid.hi.com

I have to agree that dogs can smell great.  If you haven't tried it, smell
the ears of a Beagle.  I'm serious.  Lift up one of those big floppy ears
and place your nose right in there.  Smells great.  Unfortunately for me,
my dog who is part Beagle, part yellow lab, sees himself as a great hunter.
He often seeks out the foulest smelling stuff to roll in so as to disguise
himself to his prey.  So most of the time, he smells pretty revolting.
From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: An Airedale Needs a Home
Date: 27 Dec 1992 20:57:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
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In a previous article, scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator) says:

>the contact for the airedale club of america's rescue service is joey finneran
>at 215-294-8028.
>-- 
>-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
>-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
>

Oops!

Before I get flooded by readers with advice to call the Airedale Terrier
Club of America, I should state that *I* am with the ATCA Rescue Service.

This notice seeking a home for the Airedale is being posted here as a 
service to the Breeder, who has possession of the dog.  He does NOT need
the rescue as his breeder has taken responsibility for her stock by taking
back dogs that did not work out with the family, etc.

Thanks, Little Gator!

Gail Brookhart

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dianem@boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews)
Subject: Re: Anybody get some neat dog X-mas Presents?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:36:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho

In article <23026@drutx.ATT.COM> mlhb@drutx!att.com writes:
>Seeing as this is the season, Did anybody get some neat dog gifts for 
>yourself or your pals?

My guys have a new heated water dish.  Someone decided that it was easier
than breaking the ice every morning.  The guys sometimes dump the whole thing
when there was too much ice, and that was a pain too - ice in the yard.
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: why is my dog scooting around on his butt?
Keywords: yuk!
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:01:34 GMT
Reply-To: mlhb@drutx!att.com
Organization: Bell Labs, DCTT, Denver, Co.

In article <1992Dec30.214025.3824@nntpserver.chevron.com>, hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
|> (David Gutierrez) writes:
|> >>Yes, we've all seen our dogs do this occasionally.  I've heard
|> >>different explanations...could someone explain to me why my
|> >>dog does this occasionally, and what the frequency may mean?
|> >
|> >Your dog's anal sacs are full - they need to be expressed. Your vet can show
|> >you how to do this. It's pretty simple - something like using a disposable
|> >towel and applying pressure on the area around the dog's rectum.
|> 
|> Or better yet......SELL YOUR DOG!
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Uh, you forgot the smiley?


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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Prong collar?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 22:31:04 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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gbelli@opal.tufts.edu wrote:
: I read a post (from whom, I forget--sorry) about a pulling dog.  I have 
: trouble with the opposite--a lagging dog--ie "Oh boy!  This is interesting!
: I think I'll sniff it and sniff it and maybe pull my owner out into the 
: street, while I'm at it"  Anyway, the point of all this is that an item called
: a prong collar has been mentioned.  What is this ominously-named thing?
: A choke collar has less than no effect on Spenser--would a prong collar
: be appropriate?  Thanks so much.

: Gret & Spense (no thanks from him)

You'd be better off getting Spenser more excited about his heeling.  The
problem with using a collar correction on a lagger is that it is often
misunderstood by the dog.  Also, a dog who sniffs at everything isn't
lagging, he's not paying attention to you.  To correct that I'd teach him
to "leave it."  A prong collar might help to take his attention off the
ground and onto you, but I'd start at home with leave it and work on the
basics of heeling again.  Random is super food motivated, but through
steady work, is beginning to leave things alone when she's told to.  Gaia
tends to lag a bit while she heels, so she gets lots of praise when she heels
properly, but very few if any corrections.  Until she's not lagging, I
won't correct her for forging.  Instead, if Gaia starts to forge, we stop
or turn and she corrects herself by being in the wrong place.

Karen
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Kill Files and a request ;-) was: Re: Netiquette
Date: 24 Dec 1992 18:58:36 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Sky Warrior (mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com) wrote:

: Anyway, I will accept any constructive suggestions as to how to get her
: to eat.  I am not about to get rid of her because she is an excellent lead
: dog.

How about chicken broth on the food?  If this works, you could add some
corn oil (start with small quantities) to up the calories without increasing
the volume very much.  

You might also try feeding her a puppy or performance food. 
Then it won't matter as much that she doesn't eat much.  I had a hard time
putting weight on Gaia until I fed her Eagle stress pack.  After I got the
weight on keeping it wasn't a problem and now she eats either Kennel pack
or Maintainance pack (slightly more food if the latter).

Gaia also eats more actively when we have a litter of kittens around.
It seems that 4 kittens in her food bowl gets her interest. :)

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: training problem <sigh>
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:50:15 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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OK.  Buffy has this problem & I know its my own fault for mis-training her. 
The problem at this point is to fix it.

I love to walk in the woods and/or play in the field with Buffy.  Do it about
5x/week.  She loves it too.  She loves it too much.  She never wants to leave
(who could blame her).  So when she realizes that we're getting ready to go
back to the car (she's psychic, she just Knows), she starts playing
Catch-Me-If-You-Can.  This has become an escalating battle of wits & speed. 
She develops ever more sophistocated methods of evading me;  I develop ever
more sophistocated methods of capturing her.  Problem is, she's quicker than I
am, & unless I can *trick* her into coming to where I can grab her collar, she
wins this game.  She's also smart <sigh> and is quickly learning to evade my
trickery.

She has been getting nearly 1 hour/day of off-leash exercise ever since she was
a baby pup, & I can't imagine what kind of a holy terror she'd be if I didn't
allow her any off-leash exercise.  She's VERY energetic, & it is impossible to
give her that kind of exercise on a leash.  She needs to dash, sprint, jump,
wrestle w. other dogs, run, swim, etc. pretty regularly, none of which can be
done on-leash.

Any suggestions?  Thanks.

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Doggie Odors
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:27:03 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tdis.icpsr.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec19.073440.547@news.wesleyan.edu> RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
>Another thread made me think of this.  Y'know, I actually *like* the way my dog
>smells when she's clean, healthy, happy, unstressed, etc.

I like the way my dog smells, too.  Of course I've smelled stinky dogs,
but my Corgi just smells like warm fur....

(My daughter smells good, too, and she's just 4 so I get to still enjoy it!)


Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: meh@beta.lanl.gov (Mary E. Hall)
Subject: Re: Hardwood Floors and Dogs
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:58:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.222315.8779@inel.gov> kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook) writes:
>We're remodeling our older house and would like to remove the carpet and
>refinish the hardwood floors.  My only concern is how this might affect 
>my dogs.  They love to run and chase each other all over the house and
>I'm worried that the new floors will be to slick and they may hurt themselves.
>I also once heard that slick floors can agravate/cause? hip dysplasia.
>I've also heard that the dogs may scratch the floors although I keep their
>nails trimmed back. Does anyone have experience with dogs on hardwoods is
>this a bad idea?
>
>
>Thanks for any insights,
>
>Kayti and the Border Terriers

I have a Keeshond and a long-haired cat. We used to have a house with
wall-to-wall carpeting, but now, we have only oak and tile floors. I
think it's perfect for long-haired animals. When you vacuum, you get
up everything, and when the dog brings in mud or has an accident, it's
so much easier to clean up. Misha (the dog) does slide around some, but
it only seems to get him more excited when we're playing. He's never
hurt himself by sliding into something, mainly because he can't get up
that much speed. Neither animal has done any damage to the floors,
even though I don't trim their nails much, probably because they're 
very hard wood with a good hard finish. Misha did used to scratch up 
our redwood deck in the old house - but this was much softer wood than 
the oak on the floor. 

My opinion is that if the wood is pretty hard (like oak), it will be fine.

Mary Hall
From: us267384@mmm.serc.3m.com (Steven M. Anastasi)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: They WILL let you know!
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:36:33 GMT
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US

From article <19034@mindlink.bc.ca>, by Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop):
> The vet said my dobie would let me know if it was too cold for a walk, he
> sure did :) Ever see a dog try and lift all four feet off the ground at the
> same time, but still remain standing? Looks pretty silly! Luckily we were
> only about 5 minutes into our walk, so I got him home as quickly as possible.
> He hasn't had trouble with snow on the ground and higher temperatures, but
> this is the first time there's been snow on the ground plus being -4 outside
> (that is cold for where I live!)
> 
> --
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> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca   *For YEARS I wondered what ceiling wax was.*
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I have found that dogs (at least  our golden) can handle cold weather
much better it there _is_ snow on the ground.  The snow acts as an
insulator to their feet when they are standing.  When I walk
our dog on the street and its less than 5 or 10 F, she does the
paw lift thing.  Normally she will do it for the first few minutes
of the walk but after she gets going, she's fine.  Granted, goldens
have lots of fur in their toes so they may be more resilant in the
cold.  

BTW, I've watched her left one front and the opposite back paw
in the back yard and manage to balance like that for a few seconds.
Amazing dog tricks.

-- 
........................................................................
Steve Anastasi	        "Give a man a fish, and you can feed him for
smanastasi@mmm.com       a day.  Teach him to fish and you can tax him!"
St. Paul, Minnesota                 - hey, I wrote it!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Re: Doggie Odors
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:34:21 GMT


In article <1992Dec19.150934.42458@uvmark.uucp>, susan@uvmark.uucp (Susan Todhunter - (JWT)) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec19.073440.547@news.wesleyan.edu> RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
|> >Another thread made me think of this.  Y'know, I actually *like* the way my dog
|> >smells when she's clean, healthy, happy, unstressed, etc..
|> 
|> 
|> I like the way my dog smells, too.  I stick my nose in the fur near his ears
|> and say, "Doggie smells so goooooooood."  He does, too.
|> 
I, too, like the way my dog smells (here we go again on another true-confessions
thread ;-).  My wife complains about the "Dog smell", but to me, it is a very
comforting, homey smell to have the smell of a dog in the house.  When he
gets too ripe, I must admit I don't enjoy it, but regular dog smell is
a very comforting thing to have around the house.


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From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Flexi Tie-Out: Does it work?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 01:05:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart)
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In a previous article, ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate) says:

>In article <BzMLFH.I6t@well.sf.ca.us>
>casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton) writes:
> 
>>
>>
>>>attach (tether to overhead line) to dog's *buckle* collar
>>
>>No way.  Harness only.  Have you ever seen a running dog hauled up by
>>the neck?  Very scary.  Why not be safe?
> 
>I put my runaway Cheska (GSP) on a chain attached to a non-restrictive
>tracking harness which I bought from RC Steele.  She unfortunately
>is currently (only when I'm at home) chained *inside* the fenced in
>yard.  I give her yard freedom when I'm out there to watch her.
>This harness is adjustable so can be used on different sized dogs--
>I think I got a medium.  It is very sturdy and looks quite comfortable.
>I would like to try the overhead "trolley" and would like more info
>on the kind of wire you (sorry I don't remember who) said you got at
>the hardware store.  Can you get it in varying lengths?  You said wire
>covered with plastic.  Is it really sturdy?  I understand about the

Clothesline was the original recommendation, if I remember correctly.  The
problem with clothesline is that the stuff just doesn't have the kind of
strength required for a dog with very much size.

Look instead for plastic coated aircraft cable.  I have seen it come as
strong as 1000 pound tensile strength and that is what I bought for my
Airedale.  His muscles are nearly as thick as the one between his ears
<grin> and he has not been able to damage the cable.



>metal ring.  How exactly do you attach the wire to the tree?  Cheska
>basically just sits in one place when she chained up but I really don't
>trust her at all not to escape.  I just had a terrible episode with her
>last Saturday night--it took an hour to catch her in the dark in the
>woods behind my house.  I live on a busy street in front and am
>terrified that she is going to get smashed.  In this case she
>jumped out of my van, but from now on she will be instantly crated
>when she's put in the van.  I wholeheartedly second the idea of the
>harness.  This particular one--made by Coastal--is just great.
>Judith
>
From: NAT@psuvm.psu.edu (patty mulkeen)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Shih-Tzu breeders in Northeast
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:37:52 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Hi all!  I've appreciated tips from this group before and
enjoyed the snow dog thread (Quinn's not computer literate
but he likes making snow dogs).

A friend is looking for a Shih-Tzu puppy so I offered to post
a request for info on breeders in our area (central Pennsylvania,
but she's willing to drive so let's say PA, WV,MD,NJ,lower NY, and OH).
If anyone has names, numbers, addresses, the info would be
appreciated and I'll pass it along.  Post or e-mail, whatever's
convenient for you.  I'll check posts after the holidays.  Thanks!

Patty Mulkeen
bitnet:  nat@psuvm
internet:  nat@psuvm.psu.edu