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Subject: Re: Bad file number?
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:48:11
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
In-reply-to: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu's message of 9 Oct 92 03:16:09 GMTLines: 38

In article <1992Oct9.031609.11958@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
>What does this mean, in my /tmp/console.log file.
>
>Software Version 3.0 (Hyper3B)
>opening /usr/adm/lastlog: Bad file number
>opening /etc/utmp: Bad file number
>opening /usr/adm/wtmp: Bad file number
>opening /etc/utmp: Bad file number
>opening /usr/adm/wtmp: Bad file number
>
>This only showed up yesterday, and I've been running 3.0 for over
>a couple of weeks.  What have I done?

You're using Stuart2.4 with the slog facility incorrectly installed.
The first three "opening" lines are from when you brought up a new
window, the last two from when you closed it (lastlog is only logged
on open).  They shouldn't be printing out "Bad file number", but
there's a slight bug in slog's lopen() procedure that causes it to
attempt an flock() even when the open() failed, and since the fd
is -1, you get what you're seeing.

There's a New Improved Correctly-Logging Version of slog available
on request - but, the problem will _most_ likely come down to not
having installed slog setuid-root.  Give the installation instructions
a re-read and see if that fixes things.  You should see something like:

howard:/tmp> ls -lg ~/Apps/Stuart.app/slog
-rwsr-sr-x   1 root     tty         32768 Oct  5 22:47 /Users/scott/Apps/Stuart.app/slog*

With the "-rws-sr-x" being the operative segment.

Later,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: user info in 3.0
Organization: pnet
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:39:46 GMT

  Doing an nidump of passwd shows a user info with no password defined.  I  
tried, but could not log in fron the terminal as info, but I imagine there are  
other security holes opened up by this.
  Does anyone know what this user is is used for if anything?
  Is it safe to delete it, or at least give it a long garbege password?

  Zeke
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From: mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Gathering Sys Info Remotely
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 19:54:37 GMT

I would like to be able to get the following information from the NeXT
machines at my location remotely. Is there a program that will provide
pertinent machine configuration info from an rshell without wading thru
/usr/adm/messages? I'm looking to get the following info:

Machine Model Number -or- CPU type and speed, OS version, size of
physical memory, size/type of hard disk, presence of other SCSI
peripherals (diskette, CD-ROM, tape streamer, Optical disk, etc),
monitor type, etc. All or part of this information would be useful.

I will summarize and post the results...
Thanks, Mike

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From: murali@isi.edu (Murali Venkateshaiah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: IP Multicasting on the NeXT
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:45:11 GMT
Reply-To: murali@ISI.EDU (Murali Venkateshaiah)
Distribution: world
Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute

To   :  IETF Participants & NeXT Users

Hi there :

We have found that IP Multicasting is not supported on the NeXT, in  
either NeXTStep 2.1 or 3.0. We at ISI find this  deficiency affects 
our ability to use NeXTs for packet audio and video. We would like
to find out whether others are similarly affected.

Please let us know (and forward where applicable):

  1. Are you you limited because NeXT does not support IP  
     Multicasting ?

  2. Has the non availibilty of this feature excluded you from IETF 
     audiocast participation?
  
Please reply to me directly; I will summarize and post the numbers.

Thanks for your coopeartion.

	 ---Murali
	 murali@isi.edu
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Mail permissions (scary!)
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:21:05 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Oct11.205350.15023@ms.uky.edu> kevins@slow.inslab.uky.edu
writes:

>Is it just me or is the fact that the 755 default permissions (readable by
>all) for everything in a users Mailboxes dir a very scary notion.

Depends on what the user's ~/Mailboxes dir is set to.  On every system I've
seen it defaults to 700 so it really doesn't matter *what* the permissions
are on everything inside it.  I used to be concerned about 'what if someone
got past the 700' but concluded if they got past that then there isn't much
you can do to stop them anyway.

>Kevin Solie
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 in trying to adapt the world to himself.  Therefore all progress depends on 
 the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hitt@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Hitt)
Subject: networking with a pc
Summary: what's necessary?
Keywords: network, pc, ftp, telnet, file server
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:21:46 GMT

How does one network a pc with a NeXT?

There are two desired levels:
(1), where you can use ftp and telnet from the pc to the NeXT, and
(2), where you can use the NeXT as some kind of file server.
In both cases, i would like to use ethernet instead of a serial port.

What kind of software and hardware is necessary on the pc for (1)?
I suppose that on the NeXT end one only has to connect the ethernet cable---
is that right?

How is (2) done?

Thanks for any info.

dan



Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: h23@ORNL.GOV (HEIN JR R C)
Subject: Swap file on Next 2.1 How to limit?
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:28:07 GMT

	I have a NeXT running Mach 2.1.  The swap file keeps growing when certain
applications (such as Scene are run).  It grows so large that my system
eventually shuts down do to "System File Full."  It allows the swap file to get
so large that the system cannot reboot from the hard drive, because of no room
left.  I must then reboot from optical disk. Any any ideas on how to set the swap
file at a certain size or how to keep enough room in the file system to allow
rebooting????? 


					Richad Hein
					Oak Ridge National Lab.
					:-)
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From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: What the hell is "No more room in kernel map"???
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:11:16 GMT

Brian Willoughby writes
| Bernhard Nocker writes
| | My NeXTdimension Turbo and another NeXTdimension Turbo are suffering from  
| | a strange behaviour which causes system panic more than twice a day!!
| | The /usr/adm/messages and console simply reports "mach panic ... No more  
| | room in kernel map" and the system dies. Sometimes without syncing which  
| | causes some other problems!
| 
| I have a 25 MHz NeXTdimension and I have had at least four of these exact  
| panic messages. [...]
| 
| My machine has NOT been heavily loaded at these times!
| 
| Its about time to bug_next@next.com

Well, I did call 800/848-NeXT:

Apparently, this panic is related to the kernel nbuf parameter.  I had been  
booting with nbuf set to 359 on my 28MB NeXTcube.  A local Unix-head suggested  
that NeXT's cache limit of 10% of the installed RAM was far too small - and  
therefore recommended the maximum setting possible.  For 28MB RAM, 2.79MB was  
the highest amount I could allocate using nbuf=359

All was well until I installed 3.0 and starting experiencing at least one  
system panic per day.  Each time, the line in /usr/adm/messages read something  
like this:
Sep 29 09:39:05 sounds mach: panic: (Cpu 0) No more room in kernel map

A call to NeXT Systems Support was returned the next business day with the  
suggestion that I either get more RAM, or reduce nbuf below 256.  The engineer  
stated that the 3.0 kernel was now larger and that there were known problems  
with high nbuf values, but that 255 had been verified as safe to use.

If you have less than 19.9MB of System RAM, the kernel will limit the cache to  
10% of your RAM regardless of your setting and you'll probably be safe (IMHO).

I've been running for 48 hours without a single pesky panic, so I figured it  
was close enough to proven to share with the community before someone else  
starts getting a headache too.
-- 
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BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Signal Processing Software and Consulting
NeXTmail welcome	- NO EMAIL SOLICITATION without prior permission
From: jerry@unit.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: find doesn't work
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:50:30 GMT
Reply-To: poster


When I update the find database (/usr/lib/find/updatedb) and run
find 'word' I get no response. This worked in 2.0. Has anyone
run into this same problem?

--
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Jerry
jerry@gristle.com

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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Mailbox persmissions
Organization: P & L Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:12:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.000850.26640@u.washington.edu>  
jcl@yonext.apl.washington.edu (James C. Luby) writes:
> I've seen a number of articles recently talking about the fact NeXT  
apparently  
> has set the wrong file permissons on the template Mailboxes directories.   
Would  
> someone please post what they think the permissions should be?  For  
instance,  
> it seems reasonable that read permission by others should not be set but  
does  
> one need write or execute permisson by others so they can send you mail?   

You need both read and write permission for yourself; execute permission  
probably also (for the directory).  No one else needs any permissions  
whatsoever.  Note that Mail.app wants write permission before allowing you  
to read any mail from a Mailbox (to update the table.of.contents 'read'  
flag).  This is in addition to pulling incoming mail from /usr/spool/mail  
into the Active.mailbox.

Paul
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From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Zombies (was: Re: What the hell is "No more room in kernel map"???)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:46:03 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn

David Apfelbaum <da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>> Im running 3.0 here and there is a bug in the OS somewhere that spawns
>> "zombie?"
>> tasks (mach-task with a pid -1).  

>parent process not wait()'ing for a child to exit??

Yes, that's a typical Unix 'feature', not special to the NeXT.

I found out by  that every call to the nntpd leaves one zombie, so
this does not seem to be a bug in the OS, but in the applications
running on it. I'm running the nntpd 'NNTP[auth] server version 1.5.11
(10 February 1991) ' Does anyone have the same experience with it?
-- 
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My mind is making ashtrays in Dayton....
From: alevine@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: opening netinfo backup
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:47:56 GMT
Reply-To: alevine@ucsd.edu
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-slip20.ucsd.edu

Hello!  Hey, does anyone know a way of accessing information in a backup  
netinfo database, either through NetInfoManager or nidump?  I want to  
restore some recent changes in mine, without completely reverting the  
database to its state at the time of backup.  Cheers!
--Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: wipeout@netcom.com (Eric Thompson)
Subject: Error number 10000000 occurred?  10 million?!?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:44:06 GMT

Hey--weird behavior observed:

Created a .snd file with SoundEditor (mixed up two 22k sounds I downloaded).
When I highlighted the file in the Workspace and picked the Contents inspector
and hit Play, it spun the saw for a while.  Then I chose another running
window running something else, and a window came up saying:

	Error number 10000000 occurred--continue at your own risk?
	[Log Out/Continue]

Anyway, I haven't logged out yet, but 10 million?  Hmmmmmm..
Eric
From: sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NXHost, Mach Ports
Date: 12 Oct 1992 17:18:37 -0700
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: stephen.cs.ubc.ca

gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth) writes:
>Aha.  Now I get you.  Several months ago, Ray Bloom <ray@marble.com>
>came up with the same solution you did.  This solution is required any
>time MACH PORTS are involved.  Information presented to Mach Ports
>circulates via en0, the single ethernet interface on a NeXT computer.
>Mach Port data doesn't route.

Does this mean that Mach IPC across the ISDN interface faces this problem
as well?  How does NXHost over 64kbps look like?

Here's a thought...

Currently, an app's connection to the window server requires good
bandwidth and low latency.  Now suppose that in "4.0" the app's UI code
is separated from the app's brain.  Then perhaps you might run the
UI code locally and the brain on a remote machine.  How would the
channel requirements change?

Stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jamast00@nx17.mik.uky.edu (john a mastrolia)
Subject: HELP with C-News
Keywords: cnews help
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:56:23 GMT

I asked for some help compiling c-news and received about 10 responses from you  
folks out there.  Thanks for the help, but my problem is still not resolved.  I  
believe that I have a bad copy of c-news (gatekeeper.dec.com has a "new"  
version on line that I ftp'ed).  How about advice on a "bonafide" copy that is  
not hacked to death?  If you have any further suggestions about compiling under  
3.0, please voice them!  I'd appreciate any insight you can provide.

Thanks in advance...


--
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jamast00@mik.uky.edu      future or dwell on the past, while the present slips
University of Kentucky	  you by..."  --Dickens (I believe..)
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: files' owner changes on its own
Date: 8 Oct 1992 20:35:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu


I wrote:

====
I created an ftp account (for anonymous ftp), and used chown (as root) to
change the owners of various directories and files.  However, after a
while (a few hours?) the owners change to "me" on their own!  Does
anyone know what in the system could be doing this, and why?  Thanks.
====

And I should add to that that this is not an auto-mounted external
drive.  It is an external drive mounted by an entry in fstab.  Also,
not all the files get their owner changed to "me"--only some.  I also
noticed an owner get changed from "ftp" to "zipper" (another user
name).  This is really rather mysterious.

Also, the time scale above of "a few hours" is really more like "a few
minutes".

Thanks again for any clues on this.

Mark Adler
madler@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: bug in tar, anyone fixed it?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:39:04 GMT

frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:

>From my understanding of GNU tar, using the 'big option' does make the tar  
>incompatible to the usual tar.

That's right, when it mangles the filenames, it stores the legend of
what they're supposed to translate to in a table that normal tar
doesn't know what to do with.  But once you have GNU tar, there's no
reason to go back to old tar.   :-)
(at least not for backups, which is probably what you're using these
tars for)
-- 
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From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: 3.0 comments and questions
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:14:47 GMT

Hi gang.

Well, I upgraded to 3.0 last night - I didn't really get to 
play with it too much (after midnight before I was finished)
but I don't feel overly impressed. :-(

It's slow.  (b sd() sdmach nbuf=64) on a 040 cube 16MB ram.
Maybe 'bloated' is more appropriate.  Exactly what I thought
NeXT (especially with Mach) was trying to get away from... 

It's ugly (who's idea was the 'American-TV-perfect-family-house',
anyway? And he left out the Mexican/Japanese gardener ;-)  
Very 'Coca-Colonial.'  Even remembered to get a Simpsons (tm)
sound among the system sounds.  O.K., enough cultural criticism.
Whoever is responsible for the graphics has gone _way_ too far IMHO.  
I'd rather it was peppier and cleaner in look and feel.

Many of the good/interesting demo's are gone (where are Fractal Trees -
or am I the only one who liked it ;-)  What happened to Icon?
I guess I'm lucky to have an OD system with a clean 2.1 disk handy...

It's bug ridden (as many have pointed out - I refer the reader to
the numerous other postings by individuals far more knowledgable than
myself).

Is it me or are CD-ROM's _s_l_o_w_...? Seems I wait 10-20 seconds
each time I 'browse' over to a file/folder on a CD...

Some positive comments:

It has more languages (O.K. NeXT - you went as far to make a 
Swedish version, we have made by ourselves a Norwegian version
of 2.2 and were willing to make a 3.0 version also - just so
it exists!  Why no interest?  Refer to my posting from 6 months
ago and the host of answers from European users - 
'A system often won't even be considered without localized 
software and tools - we _need_ localized OS, Apps, etc!'
Reply: 'hear hear, absolutely, exacly the same here, etc etc'
from users all over Europe.  At least you've started! Please
continue!

Upgrade was intelligently implimented (I hope - I haven't checked
all my directories yet...) and I really liked being able to edit
the Upgrade plan.  It did choke when I didn't have enough disk
free to upgrade and I tried to remove files, as suggested.



Now for my questions ;-)   :

Anyone on the FUN (Frame Users Net) heard of a fix for the Frame
crashes under 3.0???  Anyone else heard of a fix?

Why can I use CDPlayer as root, but as myself (wheel group) it
says 'can't find CD-ROM player' (or similar).  CD is SCSI id 4,
boot disk (330) is 1 (if I remember right), and the OD isn't a
SCSI device.

I checked the /dev files - there isn't a rcd device.  In CDPlayer
there's a file with /dev/rsd1h as the content - I checked the
permissions there and they are correct.  The error message comes
from cdutil, which I haven't been able to locate yet (hey, I only
used 3.0 a half hour or so last night, O.K.?)

WM -> Disk -> eject is as fun as Russion Roulette, and about as
random.  No big deal, of course, but slightly irritating.  I'll
get the fix and see if it helps.

Well, that's it for now.

Regards,
Thor
NorNeXT user group
University of Bergen
Norway
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From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: How to make internal MAXTOR SCSI ID 2 or up...?
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:57:31 GMT
Reply-To: gerben@rna.indiv.nluug.nl
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

Since CDPlayer.app doesn't work when you have SCSI ID 1 (The internal Maxtor)
and SCSI ID 0 (The external boot disk) both occupied, I'd like to make my
internal disk SCSI ID 2. When I opened the Cube I saw that there were 3
jumpers next to the SCSI connector. One of them has only 1 pin. I have been
told that this (pin 5-6) has to be connected to make a "1". that would make
the others "2" and "3".

Question. Is this "1" hardwired and are therefore only uneven SCSI numbers
available? Can I just put (a) jumper(s) on 3-4 and/or 1-2 thus making "3" or
"5"?

Thanks,

(Or: NeXT: do you have a working CDplayer.app for me?)

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From: emerson@hadrosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (R. Matthew Emerson)
Subject: Re: Found this by accident...
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:55:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.222838.25503@novell.com> logan@novell.com (Logan Harbaugh) writes:
>> 
>IMHO, doesn't make up for the lack of a Cmd-Shift-U menu option to bring  
>up a shell window in the first place...
>
Don't forget about Terminal Services.  You can set up a command key to pop
up a new window at the current directory in the browser.  One of the example
services is "New Shell Here."  I simply added a cmd-key equiv. of cmd-0.

Very handy, and a more general and flexible solution.
-matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: sapp@falcon.ssc.gov (Kevin Sapp)
Subject: Seagate ST4766N install
Followup-To: sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov
Originator: sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory, Dallas
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:50:48 GMT

Greetings,

I am not a avid reader of this news group, so please forgive me if this
is a FAQ.

I am looking for any info on installing a Seagate ST4766N (WREN VI) drive
onto my 8/105 2.1 NeXT Station as an external disk drive.  If anyone has
already performed this and has some info to share I would appreciate it or
a reference. (I already looked at diskdrives on sonata).  The drive has
not been purchased yet, so if it is a bad choice then please feel free
to express your flames concerning this device.  


Tnanks in advance,
Please EMail responces to
sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov (No NeXT Mail, Please my NeXT is at home and lonely)


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