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From: kamei@pilikia.pegasus.com (Paul Kamei)
Subject: Bart as Alex of ClockWork Orange
Organization: Pilikia, Honolulu
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 07:41:47 GMT

I've noticed at least two references the novel/movie A Clockwork Orange lately
One were Bart was speaking in the futuristic slang used by Alex and his Droogs
in the movie/novel.  The other was in the Halloween episode were Bart was
dressed up as Alex (i.e top hat and the one long false eyelash).  Have any
of you noticed any other references to this novel?  
Just curious.

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From: owen-christopher@yale.edu (Christopher Owen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Simpson's sound wanted
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:58:51 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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  Does anyone have a sound file of Bart saying "I hate the French" from the
espisode when Bart goes to France and is in the wine crushing barrel.

Chris
owen@minerva.cis.yale.edu
From: douglas.kent@hal9000.UUCP (Douglas Kent) 
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: MARGE GETS A JOB, OR
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:22:00 GMT
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Reply-To: douglas.kent@hal9000.UUCP (Douglas Kent) 

-> Bart showing the house:
->   He must have made his top hat out of construction paper; you can
-> see
-> two pieces of tape he used to hold it together.

He used the same homemade top hat in the Cable-Stealing episode.
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From: david.CLark@analog.COM (David Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Question (Also:Franklin Mint Strikes Again!)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 08:42:13 -0500
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 The episode that you are referring to is called "There's No Disgrace Like Home"
[7G04] aired 1st Jan. 28, 1990. It's where OFF goes to Dr. Marvin Monroe's
clinic after going to a family picnic, and realizing that they are not a normal
family. The cel is from the scene where they are receiving shock therapy in 
one of there visits.

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From: metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Ref. Reach
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:07:15 GMT
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In article <1992Nov6.045141.23624@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver) writes:
|> Maggie heading for the moving fan is clearly ;^) a reference to _Willy
|> Wonka and His Chocolate Factory_ (or whatever it's called).  Spitting image
|> of the seen where the boy and his grandpa start floating toward the huge
|> ceiling fan and only by burping can they escape.  Overall I was less than
|> impressed with the pisode"
|> 

Cool!  Someone else noticed this one!  When that scene came on, I yelled
"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and no one knew what I was talking
about.
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Subject: Re: YOU PEOPLE ARE INSANE! YOU CAN FIND A REFERENCE IN ANYTHING!
From: Ryan Collins <RC1DSANU@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 9 Nov 1992 17:22:25 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <1992Nov8.002703.102@u.washington.edu>, dube@carson.u.washington.edu
(Ric Dube) says:
>
>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
>
>Use your head!  These things are cliches, spoofs, genre references, etc.
>Not specific references to little teeny world you've built for yourself.
>
>
>If this is all wrong, then Homer himself is a reference to Roseanne Barr,
>because she's fat too.
 
Hear Hear!! I thought I was the onl one thinking this also!! I love when the
Simpsons put something in that is subtle, but I don't think the writers
dig up old movies to make references to them!!!!
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From: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Episode guide-- C+
Date: 6 Nov 1992 05:24:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Is it just me or does anyone else think the Simpson's episode guide is
poorly written?  I certainly can't deny that Mark Holtz puts in a lot of
time, but the wording is extremely awkward.  Two examples:

>The Otto Show (8F20) - Otto loses his job driving the school bus, partially
>because he doesn't have a driver's license, and, after being kicked out of his
>apartment, goes to live with the Simpsons. [Aired April 23, 1992]
>
>Homer the Heretic (9F01) - Homer, in a dream, gets permission from God to skip
>church, much to Marge's objections. [Aired October 8, 1992]
From: thompssp@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Steven P. Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: 11/12 Episode
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:59:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


     Could someone please tell me what Bart was writing on the chalkboard at
the beginning of today's episode? We missed the very beginning.
          Thanks..........

                                                ~Steve
From: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: maggie driving the car
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:10:45 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <92315.001434TH5733A@auvm.american.edu> TH5733A@auvm.american.edu (Thomas G. Hopkins) writes:
>I will kill all of you.

	Interstate transmission of a threatening message is a Federal offense.

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From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Do the scriptwriters read this group?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:18:30 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


So I really wanna know ... does anyone have any hard evidence as to 
whether the scriptwriters for tthe Simpsons read this newsgroup?

Also, has anybody noticed that in the opening sequence, when the
music says "The Simp-sons" in three syllables, the letters come through
the clouds that way?  That is, if you freeze the picture after the sound
of the syllable "Simp" but before the syllable "sons", what you see on
the screen is missing the letters "sons".

Also I suspect the vocalists for that jingle enunciate extra clearly to
accentuate this.


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Subject: Re: Your Quote (Re: SimpSyndication)
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:34:01 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

In article <1d8hhlINNr14@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller) writes:
> ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes:
> 
>>> "A man works hard for his filth, only to have vagrants come and steal it.
>>>  It's a crying shame."
>>>  - REN AND STIMPY, Some Nameless Character.
> 
>>That would be George Liquor, from _The_Boy_Who_Cried_Rat!_.
> 
> THAT'S George Liquor????  Kewl!!
> -- 

BTW, he also appears in a picture between the beds in "ITA."  He was the one
who gave Ren the $20 to give to the Sargeant later on!

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From: srheault@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Rheault Kihara)
Subject: Re: Halloween Episode - Refs and DYNs
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:10:00 GMT

In <1992Nov13.011154.25012@midway.uchicago.edu> mss2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:

>In article <1992Nov12.220008.22932@risky.ecs.umass.edu> giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov11.230610.20757@news.unomaha.edu> torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:

>>>You mean the one that spun off "Happy Days"?  Yes I remember it.  The Comedy
>>>Channel used to show it.  And of course, who could forget the awful '80's 
>>>re-make?

>>Comedy Central (or Comedy Channel or C or Ha or...) did used to show it
>>but I thought it came out _before_ Happy Days... and what actors 
>>"spun off" of Happy Days anyway?

>	No, no... LAS "spun off" Happy Days, not "spun off _from_" it.
>There was a sketch on LAS called "Love and the Happy Day" starring
>Anson McDonald(?) (Potsie) and Ron Howard (Richie).  This ultimately
>became the seed for Happy Days.  (I still can't believe I devote
>perfectly good brain cells to this sort of information.  :-) )

>Mike
>-- 
Mike of course is full of shit.
Everyone knows that Laverne and Shirley were friends of Fonzies that
went out with Richie and Potsie once, and proved popular enough to
justify their own series.
Another person who spun off a series based upon one appearance was
Robin Williams who appeared as Mork from Ork in a dream sequence to
Richie, and battled the Fonze's thumb power.
And of course, Happy Days was itself a TV adaptation of American
Graffiti, the movie starring Ron Howard, and Shirley. Laverne has gone
on to direct movies, most recently, A League of their Own, with Big
being her best-known hit.

Steve Rheault Kihara
A man who used to say "AAAYYYYY" in junior high school
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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: I&S--TM (11/3/92)
Summary: XUXA
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:54:23 GMT

In article <1d8m04INN8ef@cs.widener.edu>, STOLLER@dickinson.edu (Stoller, Richard) writes:
> 
> Among other gems, note that when Bart (or as it Homer?) watches a
> "screaming Mexican soap opera," he gets a clownish guy in a sort
> of grasshopper costume...sure enough, I can't recall his name, but
> he's a loooong-running (15+ yrs?) kids' show on Televisa, the
> Mexican quasimonopoly network, also seen on Spanish TV in the
> US.  Hopefully someone can fill us in on his name...ends with
> an accented "--in," I think, like "Chupoli'n."
> 

There's a guy in a bug suit on XUXA's show - is there a connection,
or do they have a common origin?  Is there some kind of significance
to guys in bug suits in Latino culture?

marc colten
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: mmmm....Soylent Green...
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:13:03 GMT
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Organization: Berkeley--Shaken, not Stirred
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In-reply-to: tina@rjlg.COM's message of 5 Nov 1992 17:42:46 -0500

In article <1dc816INN3rk@cs.widener.edu> tina@rjlg.COM (Tina Cacolice) writes:
=>>Although no one I watched with got it... so if anyone DIDN'T get it, go rush
=>>out and see the movie Soylent Green.  It's fairly old, and VERY good.  I 
=>>don't want to spoil the joke by giving away the ending, but trust me, it
=>>was indeed an excellent line!

=>Hardly anyone I knew got it, either!  I had to explain it to them!
=>Pity, too, because it just isn't the same to hear it explained as to
=>actually SEE the movie.

And if you read the book _Make Room, Make Room!_ (by Harry Harrison)
that the movie is based on, you'll understand the *true* meaning of
soylent green (as opposed to brown, red, or blue-green).  The movie is
quite different from the original book, and the book does have the
"correct" meaning for soylent green.  Besides, the movie scriptwriters
should have thought about it for a minute -- shouldn't it have been
"Soylent Red" or "Soylent Brown" instead?

ethan
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From: TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: RETURN: The Simpson's Episode Guide (November 1, 1992)
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:36:47 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Wow.  I'm impressed with myself.  I've seen almost all of these.  I can't
remember one or two of them, however.

Is this a list of every single episode ever aired?  It seemed like there were
more of them... Go figure.

-Sime

"Hey there!  It's....YOU!    "Homer, why can't you           Let's
 How about that...            Show any interest?"
 Local sports team!"         "Because I don't care..."       Go

        -Mr. Burns            -Marge and Homer               Pens  ! ! !
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: frisch1@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan Katz)
Subject: Re: Marge gets a job - more stuff
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:18:16 GMT

>Anyway... the Empire Strikes Back reference was neat.

_What_ Empire Strikes back Reference?
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best)
Subject: Re: marge gets a job, or whatever it's called
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:23:47 GMT
Organization: your service

> In article <1992Nov5.214759.15233@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
> >One wonders what story Kent Brockman was relating which concluded, "... leaving
> >the vice-president in charge."  This may have been a reference to one of the
> >more humour-oriented reasons for voting against Bush, namely that when (...
> >alright, IF...) he was assassinated, Quayle would be president.
> 
>    I think this wins for the biggest reach of the week (see above).  His
> story could have just as easily been "Bush left for Kennebunkport today,
> leaving..."

----------

Nice try.

Didn't you see that the White House was ON FIRE?

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From: hot@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (henry.o.tirado)
Subject: Re: Oprah interview
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:39:09 GMT

In article <1dbc3gINNppp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:
>
>Ed A. Mills writes:
>>Oprah's interview with the Simpson's was smashing!
Yes.

>My favorite bit from the Oprah interview:
>Marge: "Who's belching in the living room?"
>Homer & Bart:  "Oprah."

Hmmm... sounds like Homer knew how to say "Oprah" back then, but with such
low intelligence, forgets again when "Opah | Opie | Ofra" is leaving. :-)

I was fascinated by Marge's secret to high-hair.  I'm sure some Jersey teen
gals appreciated the tips :).

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From: giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: *MAGGIE SPEAKS-DEC.3 EPISODE*
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:07:23 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <YN3SB04F@cc.swarthmore.edu> mrapp@cc.swarthmore.edu (Michael Rapp) writes:
>Reprinted (without permission) from an article in today's Philadelphia Inquirer
>by Gail Shister:
>
>SILENT SIMPSON SPEAKS	
>
>Elizabeth Taylor (!) will supply the voice when baby Maggie speaks her first
>words on The Simpsons Dec.3.
[...]


I don't know how MG gets away with this inconsistency.  Are we to 
assume that the Simpsons of Tracy Ullman are not the Simpsons of
the series?  Maggie didn't speak much but she knew a couple words
("Look at this!" and some others right?).

I know it doesn't matter... but it is a little goofy.

Rocky Giovinazzo
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Bart as Alex of ClockWork Orange
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:35:28 GMT

kamei@pilikia.pegasus.com (Paul Kamei) writes:

>I've noticed at least two references the novel/movie A Clockwork Orange lately
>One were Bart was speaking in the futuristic slang used by Alex and his Droogs
>in the movie/novel.  The other was in the Halloween episode were Bart was
>dressed up as Alex (i.e top hat and the one long false eyelash).  Have any
>of you noticed any other references to this novel?  
>Just curious.

Check out the third-season "Dog of Death," in which Burns straps down
Santa's Little Helper and makes him watch film clips of chaos and 
violence.  I can't say whether it's a reference to the *novel*, since
I've never read it, but I'm sure it's a reference to the *movie*.

                            --Steve Stelter
                              sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: thompssp@fe545.cc.purdue.edu (Steven P. Thompson)
Subject: Re: EPSIODE GUIDE!
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:03:11 GMT


     I would like to get the Episode Guide too. I would have to imagine
there are quite a few people out there who want it, so could someone
please post it!
        
                                                              ~Steve
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Moral Lessons Spoofing
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:25:14 GMT

   I was talking with someone through email and the subject of how
annoying the moral lesson at the end of some shows can be (such as
"Inspector Gadget"). We then realized that it would be hilarious for
the Simpsons to spoof this. He didn't have any suggestions, and I
haven't come up with anything either, but I thought this group could
have some fun with this idea.


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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: maggie driving the car
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:01:43 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

TH5733A@auvm.american.edu (Thomas G. Hopkins) writes:

>I will kill all of you.

What an anti-social b*st*rd!

			James Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: teek@flight.uwaterloo.ca (Prateek Dwivedi)
Subject: Give me a break (Maggie driving car)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:55:01 GMT

Felix, Tounces, whatever, you get what I mean.

OK.. So I didn't remember the damn cat's name.  But I did say "..
something like Felix the Driving Cat".
^^^^^^^^^

For you younger ones, Tounces did not start with the Touncinator (sp?).

BTW... I feel like chicken tonight.

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From: bigstar@milton.u.washington.edu (Jarrett Paschel)
Subject: Re: flamers and two new discussions
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:43:34 GMT

tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice) writes:

>***commentary***

>I know I'm new to this group, but, in reference to:

>>Do you honestly think that the writers for the show shrewdly insert
>>references to TV movies from the mid-seventies so that only you and the
>>five other people who saw the film could recognize that?
>>Use your head!  These things are cliches, spoofs, genre references, etc.
>>Not specific references to little teeny world you've built for yourself. 
>>If this is all wrong, then Homer himself is a reference to Roseanne Barr,
>>because she's fat too.

>If these people don't LIKE this stuff, why do they waste their time
>reading it?

>I enjoy this stuff, but I do find it very difficult to go through 100's
>of mail messages a week.  If I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't do it.

>I know its been a while, but I seem to remember this newsgroup called 
>"flames" or something similar, where people who just hated other people
>or liked to complain or whatever could go and be themselves.

I think you just made the author of the original post's point very well. 
If you would have taken time out to actually *READ* the original post, you
would have noticed that he never said anything at all about not liking the
SImpson's. Rather, he argued that these "references" as being discussed on
this group are perhaps more the product of a broader culture as opposed to
isolated incidents in you & your sheltered friends lives.  The point is,
if you like the stuff *THAT"S GREAT*.  If you like the way the Simpson's
mirrors our cultural heritage *THAT"S EVEN BETTER*.  Now, instead of
worrying about how to pigeon-hole isolated incidents in the series, why
not just go live ?



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