HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: haroome@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allisson Roome)
Subject: The Fine Line (was Re: Boink Blues)
Organization: Me? Nah ... now where did I refile that message?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:46:15 EDT

In article <x13mv!c.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.121743.7942@newstand.syr.edu> haroome@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allisson Roome) writes:
>>
>>Allisson - [I still don't have a job and don't know where I'm living -
>>	    suggestions welcome]
>
>Is that 'suggestions' or 'propositions'?....

<*pout*> No fair Aahz, give away all of my secrets.  It doesn't matter
anyway - I'm going to live on Long Island for a while (and avoid
aquiring the attrocious accent I've avoided so far) - I may have to be
net.less for a bit though.

Allisson
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From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:41:06 GMT
Summary: Sorry about that.

In article <1992Aug19.033416.20004@menudo.uh.edu>,
kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) quotes me:
> >Yep, looks just like vintage Kevin.  So I'll repeat what I said
> >then:  You need *regular* counseling from a *professional*...
 
> I told you already.  I've already *tried* that, and from the cheapest
> source in existence: the university.  I went for a year, during a
> time in which I was in much worse shape (emotionally) than I am now,
> and got nowhere.

Too bad.  You might try a therapist not attached to a college, and
thus not expecting to deal only with the usual student existential
angst.  And you might get somewhere now that you're in better shape.

And speaking of better shape, if you don't want to go the mental
therapy route, do try the physical route.  The full nine yards
body-building routine is not necessary--you can join most Nautilus
places (around here anyway) for about $20/month, and they all have
various exercise bikes/stairmaster things to work your aerobic
conditioning too.  About an hour three times a week is all it takes.
You'll feel fit, no matter what happens in the rest of your life,
and you might even meet someone...

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From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: single men
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:55:49 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <2218@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com> luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:
>
>Two women dance on a dance floor what are they? ( two close friends )!
>Two men dance and what are they ( two queers )! 

Actually, if you do square or contra dancing, you'll quite likely see
two men dancing with each other.  In fact, I do it often enough to have
a nice, pink button that says, "I'm a woman".
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:27:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.kiran.714227240
Organization: Indiana University

ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
 
>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>>>kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
 
>>>Money isn't just a "deciding factor".  For many, if not most,

[remainder deleted]
 
Be careful with attributions, please.  I wrote none of this.
-- 
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From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Chinese single woman seeks caucasian single men
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:29:16 GMT
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....

In article <Bt2IKB.IDM@research.canon.oz.au> naylor@research.canon.oz.au (William Naylor) writes:

>Hi!

>I'm a 26 years old Singaporean Chinese, English-educated,
>about 5 ft 3 in tall, with shoulder-length hair.  I'm a Catholic
>and I'm looking for an educated caucasian Catholic between 27 to 30 years old,
>a non-smoker, honest, and family-oriented.

>My hobbies are travelling, reading, cooking, and I love children.
>I'm a secretary with Singapore Airlines.

>If you have similar interests and are looking for a permanent relationship
>like myself, write to me now at this mailing (not e-mail!) address:

>    Blandina
>    Block 55, Marine Terrace
>    #02-09
>    Singapore 1544
>    Republic of Singapore

>I'm willing to consider migration.

>-- 
>William Naylor                               | naylor@research.canon.oz.au
>Canon Information Systems Research Australia | Phone +61 2 805 2000
>PO Box 313 NORTH RYDE NSW 2113               | Fax   +61 2 805 2929


Sigh.  No wonder us Singaporean Chinese men go looking elsewhere for women...

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From: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Reply-To: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Organization: I can't see any organization here...:-)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:34:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.193211.28667@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly) writes:
>
>Yep, looks just like vintage Kevin.  So I'll repeat what I said
>then:  You need *regular* counseling from a *professional*.
>In my experience, and contrary to the trends in most services,
>cheaper is better.  Counselors with MSWs cost the least, but are
>usually the easiest to find, talk with, and get real help from.  MDs
>(psychiatrists), by contrast, tend to be the most expensive, remote,
>and imperious, although they can prescribe drugs.  Anyway, whatever
>floats your boat.  And dude, your boat is hard aground.

I told you already.  I've already *tried* that, and from the cheapest
source in existence: the university.  I went for a year, during a
time in which I was in much worse shape (emotionally) than I am now,
and got nowhere.

I have no reason *at all* to believe that going again is going to make
any difference, and have plenty of reason to believe that all I'll be
doing is throwing money down the toilet.

Suicide isn't going to happen, because my emotional state doesn't even
come close to demanding that, and hasn't for over two years.  It
certainly looks to *me* like I'm stable.


>> Put another way, there's no such thing as too much horsepower. 
>> :-)
>
>If you can afford it.  If you can squeeze both that 'Stang and
>therapy into your very modest budget, more power (so to speak) to
>you.  If you can't, sell the car.  Seriously.  You need help a
>lot more than a hot car.  

I feel *much* better these days than I used to, and relationships is
really the *only* thing that hasn't changed.  I'll try the "self-help"
approach first, thanks.  If *that* doesn't work, then I'll consider the
therapy approach again, but only if I have the money to put into it.  I
will *not* sell the car just to be able to talk to some counselor about
problems that they won't be able to solve.

>Get yourself, oh, a 3 or 4 year old MR2
>instead.  No, it's not as fast nor as flashy, but it's a lot more
>precise at its limits.  Or if the car really has to be a metaphor
>for the unpredictable life of your dreams, make it an old Alfa.

Well, I've owned a car that was very precise but had no real power (a
VW Scirocco).  The power is necessary.  Trust me.  :-)

Now that I've experienced what it's like to have a real engine powering
the car, I'll never go back.  :-)

>Ken Perlow   ***** *****


-- 
				Kevin Brown

			    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
			    kevin@taronga.taronga.com
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: men dancing with men just because they're friends.
Keywords: men homos single bad reason
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:59:20 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

In article <2219@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com> luzenko@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:


>Why men can't dance with men in america without some stigma attached to it .

becoz the only possible reason for dancing at all is to get together with 
somebody.  if all u want is a bit of exercise, do sport.

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From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:17:39 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <1992Aug20.183428.135449@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
>stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

>>Since it seems that USENET is an environment where some of the women prefer
>>intelligent men, perhaps we can conclude that a man's chances of meeting a
>>woman by posting *intelligent* things to USENET are greater than 0%.

>I guess this is still purely hypothetical, though.

No, not really.

Shall we have a show of hands? (yes, even the strange-looking ones)

paul        depending on your definition of intelligent
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From: Bathsheba.Grossman@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:51:18 GMT

In article <thurlow.713977621@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>Kevin, speaking only for myself, there is zero chance I will ever
>read a post from you in this newsgroup that appears to be nothing
>more than an enormous lecture on statistics addressed solely to
>someone who likely knows it pretty well.
>
>In fact, if you can't get out of the habit of mainly posting huge
>line-by-line rebuttals, you should save net bandwidth and use your
>time to go out and try to find a life, because I promise you that
>fewer people are going to trouble themselves offering you advice.

Amen.  Speaking as a net.woman ISO all sorts a'weirdos, it ain't sexy either.
 In fact, at this point I'm afraid to speak to you at all, knowing it'll just
generate more of the same.  Don't forget that the net _is a life, after a
fashion, and people do get together using it.  Perhaps it would be
nicer to do those line-by-line numbers as email, since they're so narrowly
addressed?  

Your words are before thousands of women Right Now, so...let's talk about
bananas instead of statistics - we estrogen-brained bubbleheads think
they're more fun.

-Sheba
Rubber ducky, you're the one
You make bathtime so much fun
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From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: 'E' Tickets
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 01:42:03 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <14208@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <kiran.714382595@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>|>barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>|>>	Still some "E" tickets in this body I wanna use up.
>|>Then again, if you remember, really remember, what an "E" ticket is, 
>|>you're on the way towards washed-up.
>|How many people out there remember what an 'E' ticket really is?
>OK,  I think most of us equate an 'E' ticket as the highest priced ticket
>that one purchases at Disneyland for their amusements rides.  Would someone
>explain the other reference?

Mebbe one of the 'older' net persons can assist this, but, in stretching the
trivia bits, I seem to remember some sort of reference to like 'A-tickets'
and the like having something to do with gaoline rationing during WW2.
Am I right? Wrong? Vaguely close? :)
r.

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From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:54:44 GMT

In article <Bt6q8u.Bx9@vcd.hp.com> johne@vcd.hp.com (John Eaton) writes:
>: 
>Theres an old joke about involvement and commitment. In a breakfast of ham and
>eggs the chicken is involved but the pig is committed. In marriage the woman
>is involved but the man is commited. 

That is freaking hysterical.  If I got married right now without any
prior legal arrangement, I'd possibly be signing over half a house, half my
pension, half a car, my life insurance and future inheritance, and a
good number of my CDs.

When you say that's an *old* joke, you mean REAL old, right??

-Nance
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From: palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Ignasi Palou-Rivera)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: A (new?) twist on LJBF
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:13:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: osnome.PALOU.92Aug14131330
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Chemical Engineering
In-reply-to: jemenake@zeus.calpoly.edu's message of Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:37:32 GMT

As was already pointed out by somebody some time ago (detailed
reference here:-) ) the main problem with being LJBF is the real
meaning of the F. In most cases the "friends" just means "not
romantically involved", not that a real, strong friendship is desired.
I believe that the use of "just" validates this point. A real
Friendship is not a lower category kind of relationship than a romantic
relationship.

You say that to LJBF somebody is unreasonable because it makes the
other person conform your desires. But this is also true in the
opposite case. When two people have DIFFERENT desires with respect
with their relationship, somebody (at least one, but frequently both
of them ) will have to adapt to a different situation thet the one
desired.

This is specially true in the case that someone wants the relationship
to evolve to a more complicated situation (be it getting married or in
a romantic relationship). If one is not convinced about that evolution
it's much better not to do it even if ti means that someone has to
conform to the other desires (it will be the same case for the other
if they'd decide the opposite).

Ignasi.


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From: oconnell@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Kevin Patrick O'Connell)
Subject: Beer menus (was Re: cooking newsgroups??)
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 16 AUG 92 17:06:05    

In article <14054@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes...

>>> Would some kind soul direct me to those newsgroups that deal with
>>> cooking, recipes, and good drink??
>>
>>rec.food.cooking, rec.food.veg, rec.food.recipes, rec.food.drink
> 
>alt.beer
> 
>I've got a t-shirt that I bought at Maggie Mae's in Austin that says
>"Beer.  It's not just for breakfast anymore".  Maggie Mae's is a bar that
>has so many varieties of beer that they have a beer menu.
>-- 

Maggie Mae's isn't bad, but it's not the Essen Haus.  Spaten on tap!

Kevin (a Stein Club member . . .)
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From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Do true babes improve with age?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 10:40:29 GMT

intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:

>Yeah, so *what* if I remember what an 'E' ticket is for?  Like fine wine,
>true babes improve with age.  Right, guys?

I have been musing upon this very question earlier tonight, while I
was stompin an' a twirlin at a contra dance.  I have recently noticed
that many women over some age, say 30 for instance, seem (how shall i
put it gently... oh heck) stuffy, stodgy, less alive, they just don't
seem as much fun as younger women, who seem in general to have a lot
more energy.  (These observations don't apply only to dancers, in fact
we have several older dancers who are quite exuberant, and they don't
apply only to women, tho i seem to notice it more among women.  And
before you say it, this so-called energy does not seem to decline
smoothly with age.)  

Since an exuberant passion for life is one of the things i find most
attractive, I can understand at least this appeal of a younger woman.  

>Angelwing - And I don't mind proving it over and over again.

Then prove it... 
demonstrate your exuberance, your zest, your passion for life. 
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P.O.Box 2083 Bloomington IN 47402-2083                  (812) 335-0420
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Various ramblings...
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:55:13 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <qz#n!vn.aahz@netcom.com| aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
|In article <1992Aug19.174804.9804@zooid.guild.org> Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org> writes:
|>kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
|>
|>>If their successes are so limited, why are they bothering with the model at
|>>all?  Peace of mind or something?
|>
|>Consider fishing.  The fisherman knows that if he doesn't use bait
|>or a lure, he will fail to catch any fish.  This is part of his "model"
|>of fishing.  But even with bait, he's not going to very successful,
|>most of his casts will fail to catch any fish.  However, the fisherman
|>doesn't define success that way, all he needs to be happy to go home
|>with a fish or two.  A lot of people find fishing fustrating and
|>unjoyable, but fishermen enjoy it because the don't feel they have
|>to succeed on every cast, they enjoy the simple act of fishing,
|>and being outdoors.

Interesting analogy...

You've got to find the right spot on the stream or lake (you've got to go where
women/men are), choosing the right bait (should I wear the jeans or the
Angelflights), at the right time of day (should I ask her to go home with 
me after I've bought her three drinks, or after two), and use the correct
technique, (hey, baby.  What's your sign?), are all factors that will all
contribute to whether you catch fish.

I practice what's known as catch and release fishing. That is once I've hooked
them I just let them go.  I suppose some people are like that in the
mating game as well.  Unlike fishing, in the mating game, I take them home
and eat 'em.

|>To me you're someone who wants a fish, but doesn't like fishing.
|>
|>>So: what have you found works best for you?
 
A really big worm.

|>I think a fish would be nice, but I don't think it's worth the
|>effort to go fishing for, so I don't expect to be having one
|>any time soon.
|
|.....alternatively, you could just happen to be someone who likes
|sitting down on the lake-shore, enjoying the view and all.  You don't
|feel any need to go fishing, but if one jumps out at you, you wouldn't
|throw it back.

Again, a useful analogy.  The old confidence thang.

  OTOH, while you're staring at the fish, a cute moose
|might come up behind you.....

First time I read this I read "a cute goose might come up behind you"

....whooooo

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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (longer then a midwest freight train)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:44:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.212441.29735@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>In  <thurlow.713977621@convex.convex.com>  thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>>
>> In fact, if you can't get out of the habit of mainly posting huge
>> line-by-line rebuttals, you should save net bandwidth and use your
>> time to go out and try to find a life, because I promise you that
>> fewer people are going to trouble themselves offering you advice.
>
>Funny - I asked my girlfriend what Kevin should do, and she said,
>   Get off the fucking computer and go out and get a life!
>
>Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
 
 Does she have a sister?

 
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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Trygve Trolling
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 19:05:23 GMT

In article <ewillims.714396995@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
>
>	Excuse my ignorance Alisson, but what is "trolling"????
>In Europe we take the word "troll" to mean a scandinavian
>folkloric creature which is monstrous in shape, is large, hairy
>and shaggy and likes eating human flesh.
>	Um...I know that our Trygve is scandinavian but does he 
>REALLY look like that? (*GRIN*)

Well, I'm not very hairy and shaggy (sorry, Stef), but the rest of
that is pretty close.

Trygve   (But I'm very picky about whose flesh I eat.)
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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Email of the Week
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:17:30 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Aug6.222625.6955@ncar.ucar.edu> kuehn@citadel.scd.ucar.edu (Jeff Kuehn) writes:

>	(2) Email is not private.  Unlike U.S.Mail which can be considered
>	    private (and the privacy of which is protected by federal law),
>	    electronic mail forwarded across public networks is not private and
>	    is not protected by law.

No one claimed that what Nance did was illegal.  The question is if
what she did was proper and right.

>	(3) Providing that authorship can be confirmed, one can be held
>	    accountable for anything they commit to writing. Had that email
>	    been sent to someone within my organization by someone else within
>	    my organization, the sender would quite likely loose his/her job
>	    immediately for harassing another employee.  

Interesting.  Would Nance also be fired for suggesting that this guy
get his brains blown out?   

>	    Death threats are not socially acceptable. 

Well, I think it was pretty clear that the death threats in that
letter were tongue in cheek.  The same applies to the death threat
Nance made on the net to her e-mail buddy which prompted his
intemperate response.  In fact, if we are going to get into the area
of what is and isn't socially accpetable, seems to me that someone who
starts such an exchange is in no position to complain.
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