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From: Kin.Fung@launchpad.unc.edu (Kin Fung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Help me access network in HK
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:06:39 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Nov9.045732.3968@arizona.edu> raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:
>I am going back to HK on Tuesday (Nov 10). While I am in HK,
>I wish to keep in contact with folks here. Is there any
>HK folks here who can let me send message through them?

A company called Global Network Comm Tech ... something just started
business in hk.  While you are there, dial 492-5025 and follow the on-
screen instruction; you get waffle.  November is free trial month.
You get internet mail and usenet.  There were a couple of articles in
soc.culture.honkong on this service.
--kin fung, chi u, hk.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rqi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rugang Qi)
Subject: Looking for Alan N.C. Chan
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:53:59 GMT

I am looking for Alan N.C. Chan, who graduated from University of Calgary about
two years ago.  I am his friend. If you are one of his friends also and know 
where he is, Please let him contact me at (614) 293-0022, or through Email.
Thanks very much!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: What the hell is Lam's first name?(Re: LAM is God!!)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:25:44 GMT

In article <1dkurdINNrj6@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST102119@brownvm.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes:
>Well, does anyone out there know what Lam's English first name? Its

	George Lam.... I believe.

>sort of strange to call people by their last name... I don't think I
>have ever heard of his first name and I am DYING to find that out.
>
>I appreciate anyone who can enlighten me on this subject.
>
>
>
>                                           Chainsaw (yes, I'm back)


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wa Shing Kan)
Subject: Re: cantonese songs
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:18:56 GMT


>nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>I think this is common w/in HK students.  They are away from HK and they
still
>>want to live the way they used to back in HK.  Come on, open yourself, I
don't 
>>know how much you know about American culture, not much, I guess.  The HK
music
>>scene sucks anyway.  Love, everyday, everysong, everybody, I am sick of it.
>>It is so superficial that it is phony as hell.
>>Well, do whatever you like.  Just some of my opinions.  You are my sons, I
>>don't care!!!

I have something to say about this, actually, i like almost every kind of
music, except sometime i don't care some of the raps and the heavy metal
stuffs.  No doubtly, some raps and heavy metal do sound good (if not
playing them loud0, but i ALWAYS prefer to listen to Hong Kong music, if
my roomate doesn't mind which he doesn't really mind (he's a typical
American).  As a matter of fact, he likes our music, and sometimes he said
it's funny to listen to a song that originally by American musician is
being sung in another language.

The thing that lots of Hong Kong music is 'copy' of the foreign music
isn't mean it's not good.  For example, bible is translated into tons of
other language, is that mean it's not good? (no offense for the
christians).  And when i took Asian Lit last year, they learn about
Confuciousim, and Lo Tsz's philosolphy, is that mean the American don't
like their culture.  So i DON'T think it wrong for ones to retain one's
culture, he can LEARN about any cultures but still LIKE his own culture.
And i don't think you can deny that there are some good songs which are
written by the Hong Kong people.

Fran


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hk782690@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Mansheung Fung)
Subject: Test
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:05:00 GMT

This is a test!!
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:31:04 GMT
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)

In article <26131@optima.cs.arizona.edu> leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.190229.22624@cis.ohio-state.edu> one writes:
>>
>> There was a commercial by KCR in which 7 children were playing in a forrest.
>> Those children are all from Beijing. But according to the KCR, there are 
>> supposed to be only 6 children. Thats means there is an extra child, who until
>> now, nobody knows who he is. And a lot of people said that the extra child was
>> jumping and with blood flowing out of his mouth during the whold commercial.
>> The more terrible thing is the 2 of the 6 children are dead now and the other
>> 4 missing but it seems like no one knows how they died. Since they are in 
>> Beijing, it's tough to investigate on the incident.
>>
>  A silly question aside. Why are they all from Beijing? Are there
>  no suitable local children in HK?
>

Another silly question. Is there any concrete newspaper/tv news reference
to this story? Or is this another one of those city legend?

>  leo.
>--
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: change real name
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 09:32:10 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov7.080010.19111@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN) writes:
>
>	Usually the 'chfn' command is placed in /etc/shells or /bin.  So, you
>should check whether it is there, if it is, then you better check your .login
>file in your root directory to see the 'path', if it doesn't include /bin or
>/etc/shells then add it in.  However, if the 'chfn' doesn't exist in above 
>location, then this priviledge is probably denied or your SU put it somewhere
>else.  Therefore, you better talk to your SU. 
>

Usually the SuperUser does not give permission to use chfn.  Even he let you
run it, he may not let you to change your real name entry in /etc/passwd
at the very end (say "modifications in /etc/passwd denied").
Especially in an university environment - the administrator just don't want
anyone to make some rare names and fool around.  (Unless, of course, the
user got offical name changes and could provide documentations).

(P.S.  I am not saying this gentleman is fooling around with his name.  But 
       most college network administrators I know (at MIT, Cornell, Michigan,
       Northeastern, PENN...) do not allow any student to change his real name
       entry unless he got some valid good reason)

In a company environment?  I don't know.  Probably the same.  

Comments welcome.


- Louis

>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: frankiel@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Frankie Lam)
Subject: Cantonese Radio Program
Organization: The University of Sydney
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:06:56 GMT

Can someone please post time-table for Cantonese Radio Program which can be
received in Sydney, Australia. Thanks.

Frankie Lam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:46:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.002809.44486@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.111743.2421@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee) writes:
>> [stuffs about listening to songs through computers]
>I don't see why you people spend so much time on this B.S..  I prefer listen to
>those songs on my stereo rather than going through all the pain in the butt.
>Get your friends or family to send some tapes  or CDs or something.
>I don't think they like to hear you guys spending time on B.S. rather than 
>homework.
	Frankly, I also prefer listening to songs on stereo.... which I
do.... But I treat playing around with computer stuffs as a fun
thing to burn spare time..... 
	Homework? :-) Are you kidding me? There are so much things to
do other than homework! IMO, you spend a reasonable amount of effort
on school work; i.e. finish whatever you're supposed to..... and
the rest is play time man! ...[ Well.. afterall I don't have homework
to do anyways :-) ]
	Work/study Hard! Play/Party HARDER!  :-)



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From: vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Re: This News Group Surprises Me!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 00:53:28 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
Distribution: world,local
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov6.070044.28875@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs922096@ariel.yorku.ca (JOSE J. MONTANO) writes:
 ... [stuff deleted]

>age, which is important as well (It's 40-42 I think.).  For a 
>naturalized U.S. citizen, the best they could hope for is
>Vice-President.  

	Are you sure ? If a naturalized citizen becomes the V.P and
	the President passes away while still in office, can he 
	become the President ?

From: alanip@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Alan M Ip)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1992 21:53:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Tai Chi's New album << Crystal>>
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

/ hpcc01:soc.culture.hongkong / william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) /  4:41 pm  Oct 22, 1992 /
In article <1992Oct17.151404.14266@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> klyeung1@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (yeung ka leung) writes:
>
>Hi,
>	Tai Chi's new album is available in the shop today and I have
	 	  ^^^^^^^^^
	** What's the title, buddy?(I just thought that was pretty old!) 
        -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
        -- Hey ! Bud, if you are not TAI CHI fans.  Of course you don't
           know what is the title of the NEW ALBUM.  Then how come I know
           what is the album called.
 
>rushed otut and bought one. It is quite impressive, but can not say it is
>excellen. The song Crystal is very good. Others are also not bad.
 
	** Crystal is almost one year old, isn't it?   
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        -- That's for sure Crystal was a hit a year ago, but you are
           not looking for one song to judge the whole album, other 
           songs like (Love you Forever the forth song of the CD) also
           is a hit for me.  It doesn't have to be in the BILLBOARD
           to become a good song.  You're probably kind of the guy
           like COMMERICAL music, and I am looking for a consistent 
           styles, words, and the music effect.

        
>Overall, the new album is acceptable.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
         Overall, the album is above average.  ( Unlike Beyond )

> 

---Not at home so not very sure, 
	Bill
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From: ptsai@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: cantonese songs
Date: 11 Nov 92 06:07:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: cmcvx1.1992Nov10.220705.1
Organization: Claremont McKenna College

In article <1992Nov7.002331.44485@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.124014.3020@wuecl.wustl.edu>, ppc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Peter Pui Tak Chiu) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov3.163124.1936@cs.mun.ca> yeng@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Yeng Fat Fai) writes:
>>>
>>>Cantonese songs.  I wish I am wrong, because I really, really, 
>>>really want to listen my home (Hong Kong) songs through the 
>>>computer.  So if anyone outthere who has the ftp address to 
>>>the Cantonese songs, please let me know.
>>>
>> 
>> how do you listen to songs through your computer???
>> if you really miss hong kong songs so much, why don't you ask someone
>> in hongkong to mail you a tape?
>> 
>> pete
>> 
> I think this is common w/in HK students.  They are away from HK and they still
> want to live the way they used to back in HK.  Come on, open yourself, I don't 
> know how much you know about American culture, not much, I guess.  The HK music
> scene sucks anyway.  Love, everyday, everysong, everybody, I am sick of it.
> It is so superficial that it is phony as hell.
> Well, do whatever you like.  Just some of my opinions.  You are my sons, I
> don't care!!!
> 
	So why the hell are you reading this newsgroup if you are so "open to
american culture" and so resentful to HK stuff, HUH??? I guess you're just
another wannabe-cool-chinese-american-but-actually-FOB-from-HK, so there,
smart-e!! and plus, I bet you wanna act like black also, eh??
	Kiss my rear end lame-o!

						BusterR!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ccyuen@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (yuen chun cheung)
Subject: EMAIL ADDRESS WANTED
Keywords: university, undergrad, grad school
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:49:19 GMT

I need some info about applying schools in Vancouver, Canada. Does anyone
know the email address of the admission advisor or/and graduate advisor of
Socialogy Department of any of the following schools:

[1] University of Victoria
[2] University of British Columbia (UBC)
[3] University of Simon Fraser (?)

Thanks.


--------

ccyuen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: sl55050@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Seek-and you will find.  )
Subject: Re: Vivian Chow
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:22:51 GMT


>>>She looks so fucking ugly.  Why do you people keep saying that she is beautiful
>>>and shit?  Who cares?  Why don't you guys spend some more times and post
>>>something more educational or recreational?  Come on, we don't need this
>>>teenage shit around here!  Alright!!
>>>I understand that different people have different concepts for beauty.  So, 
>>>why don't you "Teenagers" out there do something rather than thinking about sex 
>>>or getting sex?  I am sick of discussing "beautiful" girls.  
>> 
>> Do you think your dirty languages are very educational or recreational?
>> Com'on we don't need you vulgar language much more than we don't need this
>> kind of discussion. Did they ever talk about sex in this topic? Maybe you
>> should look carefully before you followup an article. Take care.> 

>HA, other than sex, what else do they want?   Please read all other Re:Vivian
>Chow messages.  You will see what I mean!  About the language I use, I think it
>is recreational. :-> Very recreational!  If you can't take it, beat it!


I read most of those articles about vivian chow, I don't see any connotation
of sex.  I really don't know where in the world you get those ideas from.
May be you yourself were thinking about those things and assume others do 
the same.  I really don't agree with generalizing one's opinion.  
Well, I may have mistaken.  However, I still strongly disagree with
using vulgar language as such to express one's opinion.  I don't think
SCHK needs any crap like that.  You are right, I can't really take it.
Please pay some respect to other netters and at the least to yourself.
Karen
From: 128a-1fi@web-1a.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: testing
Date: 4 Nov 1992 21:55:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ucb
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From: zhangn@columbine.egr.uh.edu (Zhang)
Subject: Re: looking for Mahjiong game 
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:13:30 GMT

In article <ap==BhB@engin.umich.edu> hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)  
writes:
> In article <1992Nov5.210916.14979@menudo.uh.edu>  
zhangn@paintbrush.egr.uh.edu (Zhang) writes:
> >Can anybody tell me where I can ftp a Mahjiong game that will work on
> >NeXT or any Unix based workstation? Thanks in advance
> >
> >jnz
> 
> (1)  ANONYMOUS FTP TO export.lcs.mit.edu
> (2)  bin
> (3)  cd contrib
> (4)  get <target file>.tar.Z
> (5)  quit
> (6)  uncompress <target file>.tar.Z
> (7)  mkdir <target file>
> (8)  cd <target file>
> (9)  tar xf ../<target file>.tar
> (10) xmkmf
> (11) make depend
> (12) make
> 
> I could not remember the exact file name for xmahjongg.  But you may try 
> (in step (4)):
> 
> mget xmah*
> 
> That version at MIT works on virtually all UNIX platforms, but I wonder  
if it
> would work on NeXT and SGi...
> 
> There are tons of other goodies you may want to FTP as well (like  
xhetris,
> xwanderer, xtank, xtrek, ...)
> 
> 
> - Louis
> 
> P.S.  The intermediate files are quite big, you may want to compile the  
thing
>       in /tmp directory.
> 
> 
Thanks a lot!

jnz
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:52:12 GMT
Subject: Multi-byte character set
Organization: Hewlett-Packard SSG/CCSY-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

Hello. Something technical this time. 

I need some information in multilingual character sets. How do normal ASCII 
characters represented in multi-byte character code? When you try to type 
a '=' in a multi-bytes language (ex. Chinese or Japanese). Does it stored as 
1. Escape sequence to ASCII, 0x3d then escape sequence back to multi-byte 
char set, 2. a multi-byte code e.g. something like 0x83 0x44, or 3. Depends 
on what mode when the user was typing. The languages I need to know are

Chinese (GB and Big5) NB. I know GB is depends on user
Japanese
Korean
and Possible Other Asian langauges.


Any help is welcome.

Yuk

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: felixcat@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Wong Hung Lurk Felix)
Subject: Re: How to get access to the mailing list?
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:02:15 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Raise the red lantern ( Boring ? It Depends. )
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 20:39:23 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov5.202953.23220@chpc.utexas.edu> ivab015@chpc.utexas.edu (Albert Wu) writes:
>
>By the way, I found Ninja Turtle, Batman I & II, intolerably boring.  It was
>a real torture to sit through it.  I am glad that I was able to sleep through
>the last half of "Batman I" though.

I don't know anything about the Ninja stuff, but I have seen both Batmans
twice.  The story is not that great.  The visual effects is so-so.  But the
mood, the atmosphere, is so dark that it is very very fascinating.  I guess
I watched them the 2nd time just for the dark atmopshere...

But it is also very dark for some people to fall asleep as well (so I'd say
Batman I and II are not for children...)

- Louis




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