From: zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim)
Subject: Re: Deportation vs. Murder
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:47:02 GMT

In article <Jan.3.00.21.21.1993.7573@bach.rutgers.edu> marwang@bach.rutgers.edu (Marwan Gharaybeh) writes:
>
>Sure and the color of the sky in a moonless night is WHITE ... Let me
>give the readers of this net the true historical eras that Palestine 
>went through.
>
>(A) KANAANEETS: The first documented existence in Palestine was for the
>    Kanaanee bedouins this is before the profit Moses crossed the Sinai
              ^^^^^^^                    (prophet)
The Cananites were not bedouins but mostly settled people. They inhabited
the area when Abraham (Ibrahim) moved from mesopotamia.

>    with his followers (the Hebrew).
>
>(B) HEBREW: the profit Moses crossed the Sinai with his followers. His
>    followers were Hebrews and were previously the slaves under the
>    Egyptian rule. This marked the beginning of the Jewish existence in
                                                     ^^^^^^
>    Palestine.

Not quite true, see above. This marked the existance of jewish states in
Palestine. The area was then inhabited by many peoples (whom the jews fought
against and beat). So the myth that the jews are the ORIGINAL inhabitants is
groundless, but of course this never stopped poeple from pretending it is.
As Anisa quoted: "If you repeat a lie enough number of times, people will
believe it". Jews have had almost exclusive access to western public and
government opinion allowing them to build up the myth.

>
>(C) ASSERIANS: The asserians (From Iraq) came to Palestine and destroyed
>    the Hebrew state there.
>    
>(D) ISRAELIS: The Hebrews came back to Palestine and latter founded the
>    state of Israel that was later subdivided into two nations.
>
>(E) ROMANS: around the year 70 and shortly after the Hebrews crucified
>    the lord Jesus ... the ROMANS came and they took over Palestine
>    and that put an end to the Jewish existence in Palestine. 400 years
>    later the ROMANS adopted christianity and most of the inhabitants of
>    Palestine became christians.

Please reread history books! The ROMANS supposedly crucified Jesus not the jews.
The romans had ruled in palestine for quite a while. They DID destroy the
temple in 79 AD and scattered the jewish population. That did not leave
palestine empty, not all of its population was jewish.

>
>(F) ISLAM: The Kalif Omar Ibn-Alkhattab entered Jerusalem around the year 700
>    and in a famous speech to the inhabitants of Jerusalem (mostly christians)
>    Omar promised them full freedom to practice their religion. NONE of 
>    the churches that were present in Jerusalem was desicrated or destroyed
>    and the harmony that existed in Jerusalem between Islam and christianity
>    was an example. Especially at those times when there was no UN and no
>    International law.
>
>
>2.  MONGOLES: The Mongoles came in the thirteenth century where they ruled
>    almost ALL the world known then including most of Asia and parts of
>    europe. The Mongole rule over Palestine ended in a Battle known by
>    Ein-Jaloot where the Moslems finished the "unbeatable Mongoles myth".
>    Not only did this battle end the era of the Mongoles in the middle
>    east but it was also behind their retreat from europe.

Sorry, but the mongols never ruled palestine. The battle was indeed the end
of mongol expansion.

One historical note: tribes in what is now Russia/Ukraine converted to Judiasm
and are the ancestors of most euorpean jewry.

>Conclusion.
>^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  The zionists "historical right" is NOT right ... Not only their
>  existence in Palestine was for two short periods in the ancient
>  history, but also THEY WERE NOT THE FIRST TO BE IN PALESTINE ...
>  The zionists managed to convince the world of this black lie that
>  they have this legal historical right.  WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG,
>  they were NOT the first to be in Palestine ... The kanaanee bedowins
>  were there even before the Hebrew slaves crossed the Sinai.
>    
>  Second the hebrew slaves of 3000 years back do not relate to the world's
>  jewish population nowadays ... In those 3000 years a lot has changed,
>  we are not talking about 10, 20 or 50 years ... We are talking about
>  3000 years. The Oldest known human civilization is only 5000 years old.
>  To prove this claim, how can the black jewish Ethiopian Flasha be related
>  to the blue eyed and blond haired jewish friend of mine. The Zionists
>  continue to say that jewishness is a race ... Yeah ... A race and not
>  a religion meaning the black Etheopean and the blond American have the
>  same RACE ????!!! ... I have nothing against the jewish religion, but
>  it cannot be different than all other religions, christianity, Islam,
>  bodaism ... etc. A religion is a religion and not a race. In those 3000
>  years several conversion were made to judaism and these conversions 
>  cannot possibly give the right of the modern zionists to hunt down 10
>  year old arab children for throwing stones ....
>  
>  History proved that all non-lawful and unjust deeds never survive. I hope
>  that this rule will not be broken
>
>--Marwan


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