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From: jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy)
Subject: Marlins announce coaches
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:03:06 GMT

The Marlins have announced that Cookie Rojas will be their third base
coach and Vada Pinson (underrated genius) will be their first base coach.
As expected, Marcel Lachemann will be the pitching coach, joining his 
brother/manager Rene.

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From: guy@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Guy Sitler)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:09:36 GMT
Subject: DH: PRO or CON
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball


	I would like to hear some PROS and CONS of the American League

DH rule.  Support your view with facts and statistics.  Also state your

sources.


                                        Thanks,

                                               Guy
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From: arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow)
Subject: Re: Yankees pitching staff
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:00:22 GMT

In article <BxD3Cv.M7y@unix.amherst.edu> ddsokol@unix.amherst.edu (D. DANIEL SOKOL) writes:
>Can somebody tell me who what the rumors are for the Yankee pitching staff of
>next year.  I just read in the NY Times that the Yanks traded yet another
>pitcher away.  Aside from Melido Perez who is amazing and should have won at 
>leat 18 games, and Steve Farr, are there any good pitchers still left on
>the team?  Will Cone, Drabeck, Maddux or Swindell become Yankees?
>What about Barry Bonds?  It seems to me that there is space for him in left
>field.	

I still think you can look for both Cone and Bonds to become Yankees. Just
call it a hunch. I have no inside information. But the combination of
Steinbrenner being back and the smell of fresh money in the air drives me
to that conclusion.

Remember, the Yanks still have a bunch of talented rookie pitchers (Millitello,
Hitchcock...), so they are not entirely void of talented arms.

--Les

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From: rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Greatest moments in baseball history
Originator: rja@mahogany126
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Distribution: na
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:11:38 CST


Game 6, 1991, 12th inning.  Bobby Cox signals to bring in the
lefthander, Charlie Leibrant to face Kirby Puckett.  We went 
crazy (celebrating).  *Anyone* that had followed the Twins knew 
that Kirby killed leftys that throw junk.  We couldn't figure
out why Cox was conceeding the game and the World Championship
(there was no way the Twins would lose game 7 at home), but were
happy that he was.  As we were dancing around the livingroom, 
chanting "Game 7/we're world champs!", Kirby blasted the ball 
over the left field fence...


-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
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From: cosper@seq.uncwil.edu (Kit Cosper)
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay and the Giants 
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:51:13 GMT

steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:

>In <1992Nov12.001725.19258@seq.uncwil.edu> cosper@seq.uncwil.edu (Kit Cosper) writes:

>>park!  Thankfully the Braves will be moving to a real park
>>before too much longer.  For now at least they are playing on 
>>grass.

>I hope you don't think Candlestick is a "real park."  Compared to the
>stick, AFCS is heaven.

	I've never been to Candlestick, but IMHO if it is outside it
	is better for baseball than any dome.  AFCS isn't horrible,
	but I do prefer the openness of parks vs. stadiums.

>I like grass.  I like open air.  I hate turf.  I hate domes.  But I also
>hate wearing two sweaters, a winter coat, and a blanket to a night game
>in the middle of the summer.  Candlestick is an abomination.

	Even with all the problems I'd rather go to Candlestick
	to watch a game than a domed stadium.


-- 
   Kit Cosper                        cosper@seq.uncwil.edu         
   PP-ASEL-IA                        AMA 31022
From: srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu (Steven Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sac Bunts, Stolen Bases, and Winning
Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:47:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I think the A's *did* run themselves out of the playoffs.  I'm not happy
it happened, but I *can* toot my own horn for a second, since I posted a
message in the CompuServe Sports Forum just after the first game of the
ALCS, quoting Bill James advice to LaRussa after Tony managed the White
Sox to an ALCS loss: quit running during the postseason, said Bill.  His
argument was that aggressive baserunning is efficient when your opponents
are bad enough to make regular fluffs on tough plays (i.e. during the
regular season), but once you get to the post-season, you have good
players on the opposition who will make the right play, defeating many
aggressive maneuvers on the part of an offense.

-- 
Steven who will be disappointed if the Sex Pistols do a reunion tour
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: favorite players of youth
Reply-To: kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:57:37 GMT


I guess I have to go back to the bleachers of Fenway Park in 1963, to say
that my favorite player was YAZ.  Because we are both of Polish descent, I
recall, as a 10 year old youth, teasing other kids around me, saying that he
was my uncle.  We'd yell & holler from the bleachers "C'mon Uncle Carl, hit
one out!"   After that particular game, in our family, YAZ was always referred 
to as "Uncle Carl".  Even my mother would ask how Uncle Carl did after we 
finsihed watching a given ballgame on TV.
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From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: To Commissioner Maynard
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:06:03 GMT

In <BxEKrF.II6@zoo.toronto.edu> rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising) writes:

>Hey, Commis.  You're not going to allow the Rangers to represent
>the AL are you?

Nope.  I "think" I'll move the Cubs over...I don't imagine I'll have the
job too long anyway...

rm

-- 
roger maynard
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Yankees pitching staff
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:31:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov9.040022.22815@netcom.com> arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow) writes:
>
>I still think you can look for both Cone and Bonds to become Yankees. Just
>call it a hunch. I have no inside information. But the combination of
>Steinbrenner being back and the smell of fresh money in the air drives me
>to that conclusion.

Well Les I'll agree with Cone becoming a Yankee but I suspect that Bonds is
smarter than that and even George doesn't have enough cash to convice Barry 
to play in New York.  Not only did Bonds see what happened to his best pal 
Bobby Bonilla, with regards to the fans, when things didn't go well, but he's
also had a few runins with the New York media as a Pirate.  Bonds has not
always had a good relationship with Pittsburgh fans and media and they're
about the most mellow you'll find.  I doubt Barry is foolish enough to believe
that the New York media will treat him differently than any of the other 
mega-buck stars that went to the Big Apple.  He just won't want to deal will
the hassles.

I'm sure he'll probably use the Yankees to drive his price up but I'll bet
Bonds becomes an Oakland Athletic or California Angel and I wouldn't be 
suprised if he takes a few less bucks than he could get in New York to do so.

PSG 
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From: franjion@spot.Colorado.EDU (John Franjione)
Subject: Losing a step
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:33:32 GMT

maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:

>Is the difference between Cal Ripken's and Tony Fernandez' styles of defense 
>readily apparent in statistics?  

Of course not, but this is beside the point.  Statistics are just
counting numbers.  If you count meaningful events, then you have a
meaningful measure of something.

>Ripken can more easily afford to lose a step
>than Fernandez because he plays a less athletic, more intelligent game.

Why do you feel that Ripken can more easily afford to lose a step than
Fernandez?  If Ripken is better than Fernandez in the first place,
then of course, if they both lose a step, Ripken will still be better.
But if they are of equal ability initially, and they both "lose a
step", then I think that they would both still be equal in ability.
Also, how would you be able to tell if he's lost a step?

John Franjione
From: RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 5 most BREAKABLE records
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:44:20 GMT
 <1992Nov7.011023.26353@midway.uchicago.edu>

an obvious candidate is lifetime saves.

bob vesterman.
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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: Another record that probably won't be broken
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:56:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.071446.2902@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> C.Thomas.Eyford.III@dartmouth.edu (C. Thomas Eyford III) writes:
>However, I will make one claim.  Cy Young's record may one day be
>challenged.  The very fact that the game has subtly shifted over the
>years, from relying almost exclusively on starting pitching to bringing
>in relievers at the first sign of trouble, makes a very good point for
>the game changing again at some point in the future.  There may yet be
>another Cy Young in the next 100 years, who knows?

This is interesting.  Doesn't Cy Young also hold the record for innings
pitched and game started?  I wonder if these will ever be broken (I wonder
how many no-decisions he had)?  I am "guessing" he might lead in innings
pitched because of the way they didn't use relievers back then.  What about
the complete games record?

Even if there is a shift, I somehow doubt you'll see anyone come close to
putting up the numbers Young did.  HOWEVER, get a young closer who can
be consistant in a 15-or-so year career and you might have the record for
game appearances broken.  Just a though.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay and the Giants
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:45:43 GMT
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

cosper@seq.uncwil.edu (Kit Cosper) writes:

>I think it would be a shame for a grass field team to be moved
>indoors and forced to play on carpet.

You've obviously never been to Candlestick for a night game. 

I'm not a fan of turf or domes, but there are worse things. Like calling
games on account of fog (Candlestick has a ground rule that when the home
plate umpire no longer can see the center fielder, he has to stop the game.
It happens now and then, too). 

>Football is fine indoors,
>baseball should be played on grass in a basball park, not a 
>stadium.

Sorry, disagree here, too. You can tell me that Minnesota/Chicago in Chicago
is the same as Minnesota/Chicago in Minnesota, but I won't for a second
believe you. The Vikings have never been the same since they moved indoors.
Give me a good, classic game in Green Bay any day.

>That's one reason that I plan to make an effort to
>see some O's games next year, they are playing in a REAL baseball
>park!

Agreed! A good, outside, baseball park. But 'outside' is not necessarily
better by definition to 'inside'.


-- 
            Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX)
                      Member, SFWA =+= Editor, OtherRealms
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    I wanna drive the zamboni! I wanna drive the zamboni, yes I do.
From: lsmith@femto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mattingly, what a fine fielder (was: Hardly not etc.)
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:40:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Little Outfield Squids of the Poor

In article <1992Nov9.222224.2607@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <1dlpv8INN907@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov7.005056.25732@midway.uchicago.edu>  
>>thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:
>>> Was Babe Ruth a better hitter than Bob Uecker?  How do you know?
>
>We don't need stats for this one.  There has been plenty of testimony, from
>those who saw Ruth, that has come to us through 2 films and countless books
>and "eyewitness" reports (How many millions of people were in the park the
>day Ruth "pointed"?) 

I think we just entered the Maynard Zone.

OK, how do those people, who gave the testimonials, know Babe was a good
hitter? Certainly not just by watching his swing. Certainly not just by
seeing him hit a home run now and again. (heck, last year I saw Randy Bush 
hit three home runs and he was just a pinch hitter!)

Could it be that they sat down at the end of the year and saw that he 
had hit a lot of home runs? Could it be that he held the record for most 
home runs hit in a year and a career? But wait! Those are stats! They
are evil!

To truly understand how really, really amazing Babe Ruth was (and Bob
Uecker wasn't) sit down and go over his career numbers. Compare those
to the averages of his time. Compare those to the averages of today. 
Babe Ruth's numbers are impressive and they help us who couldn't see him
play understand what a special hitter he was.

And if you believe anything from the first Babe Ruth movie, then you're
a bigger schnook than I thought you were.
--
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    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  a four line .sig file and being reduced to  
   Have yet to go to the   |  looking at Sunday newspaper coupons in hopes
      Mall of America      |  of finding something."  _The Death of Mr Peanut_
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Subject: Re: Unofficial Protected Lists from San Jose Mercury
Reply-To: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:27:07 GMT
News-Software: NN 6.4.16

If someone has another list, I would like to see the automatic protectees,
the free agents, the minor leaguers, and the 5/10 guys.  If someone has
this list post it, please.  This way everyone can see who cannot be taken
from any team.  The protected lists are not the only players that cannot
be taken by the Marlins or the Rockies, there are also the free agent,
all (how many?) 250 of them.  And the 5/10 guys, who are they.

If you know, let us know.  Thanks.  I would like to see who the Marlins can
pick from from each team.

"And the first pick of the 1992 Major League Expansion Draft for the Florida
Marlins IS......"

Joe Sosa
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From: Shawn.T.Burgess@dartmouth.edu (Shawn T. Burgess)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 1st Expansion Draftee Contest: update
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:11:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Nov11.011115.28725
 <1364@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a6@newshost.dartmouth.edu


My guess would be Pete Smith.
***shawn.burgess@dartmouth.edu***
Texas Rangers in 93!
(or 94 or 95 or 96, etc.)
My opinions in no way represent the views of Dartmouth College.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
Subject: Re: 5 truly unbreakable records.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:37:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.162403.12458@informix.com> barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.060801.15252@muddcs.claremont.edu> karaki@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kurt*z* S. Araki) writes:
>>In article <92309.122328RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
>>>3) single season slugging average.  4.000.  bill lefebvre, 1938;
>>>   buster narum, 1963.
>>Don't forget Jamie Quirk, sometime in the 80's.
>Not quite.  Quirk hit a HR in his only AB with Cleveland in 1984.
>But, he had 2 AB with the White Sox that same year.
>Franklin lists only the two men above as having 1 HR in 1 AB.
>----------------

aren't records supposed to have minimums associated with them?
certainly during the season you can't win the batting title 
with 2 AB. what you (and others) are saying may be true, but it
is rather trivial, if you think about it. how many millions
of records could we come up with using criteria like those?
--
charles
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From: nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim)
Subject: Re: Greatest moments in baseball history
Organization: Fordham University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:16:00 GMT
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In article <1992Nov9.163229.12137@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, 
drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU (David Robert Walker) writes...
>At a party the Saturday night, I got into a discussion with a friend
>about great moments in Dodger history, most of which were very bad for
>the Bums. Our bad list included:
> 
>*having triple play against you in WS, 1920, and unassisted at that

Also in the same game, two lesser bad firsts:  First grand slam in a WS
hit against us (by Elmer Smith) and first HR by a pitcher in a WS hit 
against us (by Jim Bagbee, Sr.).

>*having your best hitter, Babe Herman, double into a double play (the
> famous three men on third play)
>*Mickey Owen's passed ball in 1941
>*Bobby Thomson's HR in the 1951 playoff
>*having the only perfect game in WS history thrown at you, '56
>*taking three shutout losses in '66 WS
>*having Greg Nettles rob you blind again and again, in 78 WS
>*having Reggie go deep three times in one game, in 77 WS

All of these are true, and painful.  :-(

> 
>The only clear offsets we had were
>*Kirk Gibson's HR in '88
>*Lavagetto's two-out 9th-inning double to end Bevens' nohitter and win
> the game
>*Sandy Amoros' catch of Berra's drive in '55
> 
>Clay D.

Other good post-season moments include:  

1956 WS:  Clem Labine, normally a relief pitcher, makes an emergency start and
tosses a 10-inning, shutout victory.   (Feat not matched until 1991.)  (Jackie
Robinson's last hit ever provides the only run in the bottom of the 10th.)

1965 WS:  Pitching on *two* days' rest, Sandy Koufax wins game 7 and the World 
Championship with a 10-strikeout, shutout victory, 2-0.  (Lou Johnson broke the 
scoreless tie with a solo HR.)

1988 NLCS:  In game 4, trailing 4-2 in the top of the  ninth inning against 
Doc Gooden, Mike Scioscia hits a 2-run HR to send the game to extra innings.  
In the top of the 12th inning, Gibson smacks a solo HR off the scoreboard 
beyond the CF fence.  In the bottom of the 12th, the hated Mets load the bases 
with only one out, but Strawberry (then a Met) pops up, and Hershiser relieves 
Orosco (then a Dodger) and gets Kevin MacR. to fly out and end it, final 5-4 
Dodgers.  Three fabulous moments in one post-season game.  I was there--one 
very happy Dodger fan among 50,000+ not-too-thrilled Mets fans.  (I did get 
home alive, with the of two police officers.)

Not much good to report since 1988.  

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From: jwc@netx.com (Jeffrey W. Comer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Records shattered last night
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:48:16 GMT
Organization: The Chaos Bobs

rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>FIRST grand slam in a world series game IN CANADA: L Smith
>MOST Grand slams in world series games in canada (career): L Smith, 1
>MOST RBIs in a world series game in canada: L Smith, 4
>MOST runs scored by one team in one inning of a world series game in canada:
>Atalnta Braves, 5
>MOST runs scored by one team in a world series game in canada: Atlanta, 7
>BIGGEST LEAD in a world series game in canada: Atlanta, 7-2
>MOST RUNS allowed by a pitcher in a world series game in canada: J Morris, 7.

If we were to continue this train of thought, we'd have -

  MOST HITS in a World Series game in CANADA - ...
  MOST WALKS in a World Series game in CANADA - ...
  MOST RUNS in a World Series game in CANADA - ...
  MOST PUT-OUTS in a World Series game in CANADA - ...
  MOST BEERS SOLD in a World Series game in CANADA - ...

and of course,

  MOST RECORDS BROKEN in a World Series game in CANADA - ...
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From: prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount)
Subject: Re: Favorite Players of Youth
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:52:26 GMT

Favorite players (late 60s in NJ:)  (tied for favorite)

Norm Cash - I can't remember why, except to think I watched Yankee
	games at Detroit and they mentioned he'd hit home runs 
	over the roof, or the fascination of how he hit 361 in 1961
	with some amazing # of home runs and RBI (like 41, 145?)
	won the batting title and didn't get MVP.  then I 
	opened another pack of cards and found the Mantle, and Maris
	cards.  I heard that he's dead already.

Cleon Jones  I believe the reason for rooting for him was, early in 67
	I turned on the TV as he came up, and it said he was hitting
	.097, so I felt sorry and thought I'd root for him.  He
	managed to improve that by about +.243 by 1969.
	'Bout the last I heard of him he was naked in a trailer...

Runners up, not tied for first were
	Jim (Mr. Grand Slam) Northrup
	Steve Whitaker
	Harmon Killebrew (remember that Twins home announcer?)
	Jim Lefebvre (and therefore the only kid who could spell his
		name correctly)


(another note, I think of players (except Tony Perez) who were sucky
major league hitters who are now great managers like Tony LaRussa)

P. Mount.  I was then, and remain, a fan of both the Mets and the Yankees.
It can be done!
From: jplee@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jason Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: NL Stats, 1992 --- Typos?
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:22:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: zeus.1992Nov13.002223.151032
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Nov11.234953.18647@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au> gerry@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Gerry Myerson) writes:
>Glancing at the NL stats for 1992, I saw a few figures so far out of line 
>that I have to wonder if they are typos. 
>
{Stuff Deleted}
>
>Did Offerman really make 42 errors? No one else in *either* league is close.

Yeah.  I thought he made many more than that.

JLee

-- 
Jason Lee
email:  jplee@poseidon.calpoly.edu
GO ROCKIES 1993
Don Baylor for President!!!