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From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Rapping on Korean pop/rock
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:08:44 GMT
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Dec14.191334.12426@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>ones)  First, I HATE bbong-jjak.  The lyrics are incurably sappy and
>depressing and that music just drive me sick, especially if it's played
>on a synthesizer/organ only.  This is the kind of music one listens to
>if one finds Barry Manilow too intellectual.		     ^^^^^^^

Ah, Brian.  There is your problem.  You are *listening*.  

You don't listen to bbong-jjak, you *do* it, with Soju glass in one hand
and chopstick on the other hand.  These days, it seems to have been raised
to another level.  It is so tacky, it is beautiful.

>I'd like to hear bands playing.  Where did Songgolmae go?  
 
Don't know.  Aren't they considered old-timer now?  I must be getting
old...  I remember that they played at Johny Yoon Show.  Do they still?

( BTW, I think "San Ul Lim" was the best Korean band ever. )

>And finally, let's go and kill all the lyricists.  I like listening
>to songs with more artistic and poetic lyrics, like Peter Gabriel,
>old Genesis and Rush.  Can anyone in Korea write lyrics that can
>stand on their own as art?  I mean take a look at most of these
>words.  Boy meets girl, girl either doesn't care about the boy or
>they are so in love it's like eating a cake with 3 inches of sugar
>coating, girl/boy leaves for some reason...  All that's missing
>is the last part, girl/boy kills her/himself after listening to
>bbong-jjak for two hours straight.  Yeah, I can take my own share
>of romantic songs, but fer cryin' out loud, can the lyricists do
>anything else?

There are NO lyricist in Korea.  It is a best-kept secret in Korean music
circle.   There is a lyric generator program that takes the list of words
(Love, Part, ... ) and rearranges them in a different order.  They just buy
the printouts and use them.

As far as I know, "SanUlLim" had original lyrics, and "Song Chang Shik" had
some. 

>Now that I'm done griping on Korean music, I'm off to take yet
>another final. 

Good Luck.

>Brian "stressed out" Chung
>

Andy "No More Final" Kim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: questions of the Korean War
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:10:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.201144.16673@news.acns.nwu.edu> andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.170630.17174@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou) writes:
>>I don't know if you agree but here is a partial list of facts:
>>
>>1. It was N. Korean, Korean nevertheless, not Chinese, who started the korean
>>war.
>
>According to Khrushev both Mao and Stalin were consulted by Kim Il-Sung
Here it gets out of hands-- a renewed Korea-War on the net. I wonder
who started this thread.
some questions about Korea and probably never being asked by any body:
1. Why the letter that wrote by S-korea president to U.S. Gerneral to advocate
invasion of N-Korea fell into the hands of N-Korean hands during Southen
retreat? Were it so urgent to retreat that a document as such important was
neglacted, or deliberately done that will sure infurate N-Koreans more against
S-Koreans, to make S-Koreans to have more share of hatred from N-Koreans
comparing U.S.'s share? Just a question with educated doubt.
2. Why U.S. did not give S-Koreans heavy Weaponary, given U.S. intelegence
knew the N-Korea's millitary build-up? Was that because as claimed by U.S.
that in fear of S-Korea started to invade N-Korea? You could have offer
S-Korea defensive Wapen, like anti-tank gun to fence off possible N-Korean
offense? Or A korea War would certainly turn S-Korea more depend on U.S.,
given the fear by U.S. that most S-Koreans before the War had more sympathy
toward N-Korea.
It is a complicated world. I hope not all S-koreans are in same level of 
understanding of the world as those who had abortion and sale of property in
order to see GOD(maria?).
From: corvett@csa.bu.edu (Sungyeup Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Korean Internet BBS wanted
Date: 21 Dec 92 03:23:16 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Howdy?
Does anyone has a list of all Korean internet BBS?
Please post it, or send me e-mail. I'll compile and post the summary.

Thanks !

To DaeShik Kim;

Sorry for ditching you(your talk request). 
I was rlogining to cbubbs, and I couldn't get to your site.
Sorry !
--
Sungyeup Kim
corvett@csa.bu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: MINJJA vs MINJOO
Reply-To: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:15:24 GMT

shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Seunghun Lee) writes:

> * worst scenario
>  A) in politics
>	: 1) no local-government election in near future
>	  2) they'll change the National Assembley Election Law
>	from SO-SUN-GEO-GU to JUNG-SUN-GEO-GU.
>	  3) after get enough sits, change the Presidential Law
>	to NAE-GAK-CHAK-IM-JAE
>	  4) and they will live happily ever after.
>
>  B) in economy
>	: 1) no GEUM-YUNG-SIL-MYUNG-JAE (they promised to do it)
>	  2) favor of GAEBUL to middle and small company
>	  3) open agriculture market 
>		(YS promosed to keep it closed or death, 
>		some netters said he is THE mr. HONEST, we'll see)
>
>

You are frightening me. It reminds me one of my nightmares.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: Dear Emmy (was: Re: Dear Abby, III)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.183531.14082@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.124059.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
>>Dear Abby,
>
>I am kinda getting tired of this name "Abby."  Can we try some other name
>like "Emmy"?
>
>>Hank
>
>James Choi

I am surprised no one replied to this.  It was a joke.  Think about it.
Emmy instead of Abby...  Emmy and Abby,  Abby and Emmy...  think about your
old days in Korea...

Thank you.

James Choi
From: swkim@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Seok W Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Anything but...
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:22:50 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

In article <1992Dec18.223652.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
>For the past few days, all I heard about at s.c.k was the election.  I am sure
>it is quite important and all but to some people it doesn't mean anything.
>Not because I don't care but I am not that politics oriented.  Is there 
>anybody who has something to say about anything but the election?
>
>Hank
>-- 
>***************************************************************************
>
>Henry E Chon
>7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca
>hechon@uwovax.uwo.ca
>University of Western Ontario, London, Canada
>
>"Do not worry about your problems in Mathematics, I can assure you mine are
> still greater."  A. Einstein


OK! I'm ready for you.
What do you want to talk about?
Just tell me the topic what you want.
I'm also exhausted to talk about politics.

Huh.Huh..Huh...Huh...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Orange-jok
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:50:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.220914.4144@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>I think that the uniformity in Korean culture is the worst left-over
>of Japanese imperialism and following authoritarian goverments such as
>Konghwa Party's and Minja's. 

	Huh?  The uniformity in Korean culture began since the United
Shilla Kingdom period.  By the time of Koryo and Chosun Kingdom, "Korean"
culture was pretty much united as one.  Why do you say that the uniformity
in culture is a remnant of Japanese imperialism?

>I'm not quite sure that Silla, Koryo and Chosun had the same, very
>restrictive and society (or group) oriented culture.

	Of course they did.  There was the yang-ban culture and sang-min
culture.  There were some upward and downward mobility, but those were
in economic/political terms.  Socially, yang-bans never mingled with
sang-mins and sang-mins weren't allowed to mingle with yang-bans.  And 
that's just during the Chosun period.  During Koryo period, you also have
to add in the slave culture.  

>I've never read any old Korean novel which praised the sacrifice of
>individual for the nation or any social group, though I read lots
>of novels which praise individual success or sacrifice for another
>individual (usually for parents or children).

	The sacrifice of individuals for the nation usually occurs during
war.  Admiral Lee Sun-shin is an example of such tale.  Also, there is
the Gun Sa Bu Il Che paradigm (Trinity of Monarch, Teacher and Parent).
So, if you sacrifice yourself for your parents, you are sacrificing yourself
for you country/king.  And finally, there is the lack of novels during the
ancient times.  Most books were for poetry, philosophy and other boring
stuffs.  Books weren't supposed to be entertaining, they were supposed
to be enlightening.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Subject: korean president election 
Message-I.d.: <1992Dec17.175259.64570@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:34:03 GMT

for english only user, run  a command "finger .election@baram.kaist.ac.kr 92


For hangul screen, type"telnet baram.kaist.ac.kr 92".

Those two command show the current result of korean president poll
                            

Thanks to kaist student who update the result every minute.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Dear Emmy (was: Re: Dear Abby, III)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:35:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.124059.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
>Dear Abby,

I am kinda getting tired of this name "Abby."  Can we try some other name
like "Emmy"?

>Hank

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Re: Anything but...
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:51:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.032250.6453@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, swkim@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Seok W Kim) writes:
> OK! I'm ready for you.
> What do you want to talk about?
> Just tell me the topic what you want.
> I'm also exhausted to talk about politics.
> 
> Huh.Huh..Huh...Huh...
> 

I don't know, but now that you asked, hmmm...  Let us see.....

I just read somewhere about there being two different types of suicides 
and I remembered an SF book I read in Korean when I was much 
too young to understand it.  The two types are active and passive.  
The book was about a guy who led a perfectly normal
(if there's such a thing) life until he was put in a situation where with his
effort he could have avoided being killed (I think it was a situation where a
car came over the centre line and he had enough time to avoid being hit) but
in that split second he evaluates his life and found it dull and meaningless
thus not made an attempt at avoiding it and killing himself. 

Now I wonder, what would I have done in his shoes?  Und Sie?  Et vous?

I am sorry to take your all important time away from the politics discussions
but I thought this might do the job if boredom is what you were after. :)  

Hank
-- 
***************************************************************************

Henry E Chon
7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca
hechon@uwovax.uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario, London, Canada

"Do not worry about your problems in Mathematics, I can assure you mine are
 still greater."  A. Einstein
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Behavior.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:05:24 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Dec12.041450.7551@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>	Age at first intercourse :     17    (Gee, I should be ashamed!)

	Do you mind if I ask why?
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
From: bark@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Bark Kwangyl)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re:Hot food and pop music
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:39:40 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <1992Dec16.061643.4567@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:

>	And those who do not like rock n roll are free to speak out.  
>That's why we have this wonderful thing called Usenet.  So, now, tell me,
>do *you* find Korean pop music more intelligent than American/British
>music?  That was my original complaint, I would like your opinion.

Well, Brian, I think talking about intelligence of pop/rock music is
a ridiculous idea first.  Futhermore comparing one country's pop music
to another, whose cultural backgrounds are  totally different, is more
ridiculous idea.
Instead of that we should talk about whether you like/understand it or not.
When you try to understand a music, you are using some reference  of your 
own. And here comes the problem.
What is your reference?  The British/American pop/rock culture which
is the alpha and omega of pop/rock culture?
Sure, if that is your reference, every other  coutry's pop/rock music is
just low grade junks. 

Well, let me give you an analogy.
After I came to USA, I tried several hot foods sold here including Mexicans. 
Most of them looks too mild for me and I refuse to call it hot for my reference.
But I didn't implore the deficiency of hotness in American food because I know
doing it is ridiculous. Instead I tried to enjoy their different flavor.
Do  you see the difference between your attitude and mine?

One more thing!
Wheather you look down on those Korean  pop songs or not,  there are huge 
population in Korea enjoying it. 
They fully understand/like those songs you describe as low grade, unintelligent
and not lyrical.  ( This part about not lyrical is especailly outrageous
comment showing one's ignorance. )
They do not understand much the British/American pop/rock which you praise 
as the good pop/rock music.
What you gonna do? Teach them the english lyric and preach about what is
really good pop/rock music from British/American standard?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: peny@ppc.lpc.ethz.ch (Peter Nyffeler ,x4399)
Subject: Podre fazer um vo planado em Brasil?
Reply-To: peny@ppc.lpc.ethz.ch
Organization: ETH-Zuerich, Physical-Chemistry-Lab. - Switzerland
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:31:44 GMT

Eu vai fazer ferias ao Brasil entre 27. dezembro e 29. Janeiro, e quero fazer um vo 
planado.

Eu perguntei a rec.aviation.soaring onde fazer um vo planado e recebi a reposta, 
a Soa Jose dos Campos h um grupo do vo planado.

Voc conhece um pilota deste grupo? Ou uma outro lugar por fazer do vo planado?

Desculpe meu mau portugus. Eu comecei a estudar portugus este vero, EH! 
inverno ao Brasil.

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From: cf124@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Claudio Ruggieri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Re: Sao Paulo - World Champion
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:47:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf124@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Claudio Ruggieri)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Acho que quase todo mundo viu o jogo ou sabe o resultado e, portanto, desnecessario qualquer comentario. Aqui esta' a relacao de todos os clubes
campeoes desde 1960:

From a62420a@center.osaka-u.ac.jp Mon Dec 14 00:09:06 1992

	South American clubs have so far dominated this tournament. They
	have won 18 times against 12 times of European clubs. Here are
	the champions since 1960:

	1960 - Real Madrid (Spain)
	1961 - Penarol (Uruguay)
	1962 - Santos (Brazil)
	1963 - Santos (Brazil)
	1964 - Internazionale (Italy)
	1965 - Internazionale (Italy)
	1966 - Penarol (Uruguay)
	1967 - Racing Club (Argentina)
	1968 - Estudiantes (Argentina)
	1969 - AC Milan (Italy)
	1970 - Feyenoord (Netherlands)
	1971 - Nacional (Uruguay)
	1972 - Ajax (Netherlands)
	1973 - Independiente (Argentina)
	1974 - Atletico Madrid (Spain)
	1975 - not held
	1976 - Bayern Munich (Germany)
	1977 - Boca Juniors (Argentina)
	1978 - not held
	1979 - Olimpia (Paraguay)
	1980 - Nacional (Uruguay)
	1981 - Flamengo (Brazil)
	1982 - Penarol (Uruguay)
	1983 - Gremio (Brazil)
	1984 - Independiente (Argentina)
	1985 - Juventus (Italy)
	1986 - River Plate (Argentina)
	1987 - FC Porto (Portugal)
	1988 - Nacional (Uruguay)
	1989 - AC Milan (Italy)
	1990 - AC Milan (Italy)
	1991 - Red Star (Yugoslavia)
	1992 - Sao Paulo (Brazil)


-- 
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Faculty of Engineering               !  Just boil the water,
Osaka University, Japan              !  make the tea and drink it.
email: a62420a@center.osaka-u.ac.jp  !  That's all !!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: quito@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marco Quito Perlman)
Subject: Re: Copa Brasil, primeiro jogo
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 05:29:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.020916.7728@dxcern.cern.ch> xexeo@hplaa02.cern.ch (Geraldo Xexeo) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>
>  A 1000 Anos esta escrito:
>
>   O Fluminense sera campeao da COPA BRASIL de 1992!!!            
>

   "Ha" 1000 anos?
   Copa "DO" Brasil?
   Aonde foi que voce leu isso????

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_P_a_l_m_e_i_r_a_s RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Disclaimer: I speak for myself, and for no one else!!!!!
From: cf124@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Claudio Ruggieri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Re: Inter e' Campeao, detalhes da final
Date: 15 Dec 1992 02:38:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf124@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Claudio Ruggieri)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, alexdv@sco.COM () says:

>
>nao deu muitos descontos, o que foi justo pois a cera foi sempre provocada pelo
>Fluminense. Mas a torcida nao queria saber mais de jogo e so' gritava
>comemorando o titulo e a passagem para o sonho da Libertadores e, se Deus
>quiser, Toquio. A festa comecou quando da marcacao do penalti e continuou

	Parabens ao Internacional (apesar de ser Palmeirense). Tor@o para
que o Colorado ganhe a Libertadores de America e venha a Tokyo jogar tao
bonito quanto o time do Sao Paulo. Eu vi o jogo do tricolor paulista ao
vivo e fazia tempo que eu nao vibrava tanto com uma partida de futebol.

	Colorados, sejam bem vindos em Tokyo 93!!!


-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
From: rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto)
Subject: 8 rainhas no quadro.
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:35:50 GMT

Alo todos.

Problema: Colocar 8 rainhas em um quadro de xadrez
      de maneira que nenhuma delas pode "comer"
          qualquer outra.

Feliz Natal

Xico
From: rpavao@ax.apc.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Re: Copa do Brasil, Inter e' Campeao!!!
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:18:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Dec14.010111.25654@sco.com:-2048270192:ax:1191000118:000:477
Nf-From: ax.UUCP!rpavao    Dec 14 15:18:00 1992


concordo plenamente com o Xexeo, o Sobrenatural de Almeida
na~o so' esteve no Beira-Rio como apitou o jogo ( que aliais eu vi)
penaltisinho mais roubado que esse nunca vi na vida   
sem falar na porrada que rolou solta com varios jogadores do 
fluminense saindo de campo sangrando depois de serem agredidos
inclusive por um seguran<a do Inter. Como diria o Nelson Rodrigues
LAMENTAVEL ESPETA'CULO. 

NNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEE   !!!!!!!!!

rpavao
From: nmuller@ems.cdc.com (Nelson Muller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Re: Inter nas finais
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:14:09 GMT
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1galcgINN8k1@morrow.stanford.edu>, denis@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Denis Schiozer) writes:
|> In article <Bz21AE.753@sju.edu> fuga@sju.edu (Emerson Fuga) writes:
|> >Depois de uma esmagadora vitoria sobre o Palmeiras (Inter 2 x 1 Palmeiras)
|> >o Inter vai jogar as finais contra o Fluminense.
|> >Boa sorte aos torcedores tricolores, pois como voces devem saber o
|> >Colorado esta cansado de golear times tricolores (Gremio).
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >Emerson Fuga     "Gloria do esporte nacional oh INTERNACIONAL que eu vivo
|> >                  exaltar.........."
|> 
|>      Cup of Brazil 92
|>      ----------------
|> The winner of Cup  qualify for next Libertadores.
|> The second of Cup  qualify for next Comebol.
|> 
|> Finals
|> -------
|> 10/12 - Place - Sao Januario   Att. - 7.491
|>         Referee - Marcio Rezende de Freitas
|>         Fluminense        2-1  Internacional(RS)
|>         Vagner 24(1)           Caico 7(2)
|>         Ezio 26(2)
|> 
|> Fluminense - Jeferson; Ze Teodoro,Vica,Sandro,Souza and Lira;
|>              Anderson,Julinho and Sergio Manoel;
|>              Vagner and Ezio.
|> 
|> Internacional - Fernandez; Celio Lino,Celio Silva,Pinga and Ricardo;
|>                 Anderson,Elson and Marquinhos;
|>                 Mauricio,Gerson and Caico.
|> Next game
|> (Sunday)
|> 13/12 - Place - Beira Rio
|>         Internacional(RS)  -  Fluminense

Goleada!?!?!?!?  Esta foi otima!  Sou tricolor de coracao....
E a torcida tricolor continua a sorrir!

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