HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Subject: Re: Wanted: a flight simulator for my hp48sx
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
Date: 31 Aug 92 11:26:59

In article <1992Aug30.182928.15319@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:

   I've been meaning to post this for some time but I keep forgetting it's 
   simply something that's been on my wish list for a long time.

   If anyone out there wants a fun challenge and to impress people just
   whip up a flight simulator for the hp48.  It's certainly capable of 
   the task as I remember playing with my first flight simulator on an
   Apple II+ with 32 or 64K of RAM and it only ran at 1 Mhz.  A flight 
   simulator would be something I'd be willing to fork a few of my hard earned
   buck for.  Anyone want to take the challenge?

	   ian

We'd need a good graphics library with polygon fill capability to
do this.

I have also considered writing a flight simulator, mostly because
I made a (highly informal) bet with a friend that it could be
done.  In fact, I think an HP 48 flight simulator could have a
better frame rate than one for the Apple II--the screen has fewer
pixels and the processor is better at arithmetic.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:41:57 GMT
Subject: Re: External input to HP48 (question)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

> Has anyone experimented with utilizing the hp48 as a collection instrument
> to gather data in the field, store the data to a ram card, and then
> download that data to a larger computer. Specifically, an application
> where the hp would read data from an external sensor (e.g. thermometer,
> light sensor, pressure transducer, etc.) and save the data for later
> analysis. If so, any assistance or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Scott H. Smith
> smithsh@sumax.seattleu.edu

The next 3 postings following this one give a lot of information on
data acquisition (that is, "from an external sensor").  As far as saving
and processing the data are concerned, I think you're on your own here.
Fortunately, it's very easy to do.


Regards
Ray Depew
Hewlett Packard Co, Fort Collins, Colorado
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
Disclaimer:  I don't speak for HP.
From: enag@ifi.uio.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Modest Diversion for Programmers
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:59:35 GMT
Organization: Department of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway

Joseph K. Horn <akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> writes:
|
|   %%HP: T(1)A(R)F(.); @ SPLAT by Joe Horn
|   "D9D20E1632C2A20600000DBBF176BA13CE22F88E178BF19D1A1DBBF18DBF13AB
               ^^^^^^^^^^^
|   B1F88E1AFE22D9D20ED2A2FDAA14E5A1C58C1B21305DF2293632B21302FE4"

Since a solution has already been posted, a question:

The above highlighted sequence represents a string object with only one
nibble (or half a character).  Can the same string object be produced in
USER RPL?  (If so, it's probably an unwanted side effect, but it would
be interesting to know.)

Best regards,
</Erik>
--
Erik Naggum             |  ISO  8879 SGML     |      +47 295 0313
                        |  ISO 10744 HyTime   |
<erik@naggum.no>        |  ISO 10646 UCS      |      Memento, terrigena.
<enag@ifi.uio.no>       |  ISO  9899 C        |      Memento, vita brevis.
From: jollie@zambini.cs.uiowa.edu (Jeffrey C. Ollie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP's RAND algorithm
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:37:31 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa

I just got my 48SX, and I love it! But, I was wondering what algorithm
HP used for the random number generator. I'm hoping that it is a
prime modulus multiplicative linear conguential generator (I'm not
making this up) with a=16807 and m=2^31 - 1. I've written one of my own,
but would prefer to use the built in RAND.

Jeff Ollie
jollie@zambini.cs.uiowa.edu "The Happy User"
From: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Engraving an HP48??
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:08:46 GMT
Reply-To: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

Hi folks,

A while back, someone mentioned engraving one's name on the front plate
of an HP48 as a form of theft prevention.  I've gone to a couple of
engraving shops today and no one is willing to engrave on my HP!  Has
anyone had any success with doing this?  Is the front plate really metal
(that's the big question).

Thanks

#############################################################################

               "If you can't lick'em, put 'em on with a big piece of tape."

Oscar Fowler
omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
From: akcs.jimjones@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (jim kool-aid jones)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: unpostable sex48pos
Message-ID: <2aa303d4.1591.22comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

 
 
                      Suggestion for HP48 freeware:
 
                ?????????????????????????????????????????
                ?               Freeware                ?
                ?               --------                ?
                ?  This program is Free to most users.  ?
                ?  However, Erik Naggum must send       ?
                ?  $1245.23 to the author before using  ?
                ?????????????????????????????????????????
 
Jim Jones
email:  jimjones@kool.aid.com.mit.su.i.cide
From: haihoang@cs.washington.edu (Hai Hoang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: WANTED: HP41CV
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:33:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: beaver.1992Sep3.173352.7045
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle


        Please call at 206-649-3760 or reply.
        Also wanted: a financial module.
From: windsor@sam.ksu.ksu.edu (Rob Windsor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: deleting libdat_v1.0 :<
Date: 4 Sep 1992 13:37:53 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.ksu.ksu.edu


Fellow samplers of programs - greetings.

I'm here today to post 1) a major B**CH, and 2) a major plea for help!

1)  Mr. "Romain", WHY did you put spaces in the names of directories and files?
    Your libdat_v1.0 is a good program.... But when I decided that I didn't
    really need that particular program, I couldn't clean out all of the files!
    This is REALLY not a flame - I'm not degrading you as a person or as a
    programmer; I'm just asking a question and making a point at the same time.

2)  ANYBODY, how can I delete files and sub-dirs that have spaces in them?
    I don't really want to do a partial backup, clear memory, and then recover
    from the backup (i.e. re-attaching lib's).  If there is an easier way,
    I'm all for it.

Whomever -- Thanx in advance!
-- 

Rob@K-State.Manhattan.Kansas.USA.Earth

To the computer: windsor@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Newbie needs advice...
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:04:34 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Sep1.212247.2120@wkuvx1.bitnet>, curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
> Hi there,
> 
> I just got my 48-s the other day from our schools bookstore and i am
> thrilled with it.i had a used 28s that i loved also but man i cant
> believe some of the stuff that the 48 does!!!i have a question for
> some of you old pro's.i know to transfer data from 28-48 i need inprt
> and i have downloaded inprt.lzh from funet.funic.fi but there seems to
> be a compatibility problem with our schools archived file extractor.
> ive tried every thing.what im wondering is if someone could send me a
> copy that is not compressed or archived.(or post whichever)and maybe
> some instructions on how to use it if they arent included.i really
> want to transfer the programs ive written on my 28.also i was
> wondering(besides the owners manual)are there any "must have "books
> out there for the 48 user.
> 
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 




Some one was kind enough to help me out .


       thanks





~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
W.Scott Curtis                       !
                                     !  He Who Dies With The Most Toys,
          friend of all,             !
             foe of few              !              WINS!!!
                                     !          
                                     !                  Napolean Bonaparte
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              U.K. bound pre-electrical engineering some'buck
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP Cable Dying ...
From: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Date: 25 AUG 92 21:13:03    
Reply-To: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  

Hi folks,

I just noticed the RS232->HP cable that I bought a few months back is
starting to come loose at the HP connector end.  The whole reason
I paid $$ for a 'real' HP cable was because I thought I'd get
good quality.  I've hardly used this cable, and when not in use (99%
of the time) it's sitting peacfully on a shelf.

Has anyone else had this problem?  I'd like some recommendations on how
to fix it or advice on HP's policy towards such things.

Thanks,
Oscar

#############################################################################

               "If you can't lick'em, put 'em on with a big piece of tape."

Oscar Fowler
omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
From: hdev@dutiag.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Engraving an HP48??
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:54:22 GMT
Distribution: world,local

robf@mcs213g.cs.umr.edu (Rob Fugina) writes:

>I had mine engraved, almost no questions asked.  The front is metal  
>(aluminum, I believe) and they didn't have any trouble at all.  Now my
>name is accross the top, and I think it's pretty obvious whose it is...

BTW, the HP 95LX has a nameplate on which you can let engrave your name. After
that is done you can attach the plate on the HP (the place where you stick the
plate is such that you can't detach it without messing up the machine).

Hopefully, HP will do that with all their calculators in the future as well.
And I must say, having the name on your machine looks very nice (it gives a
personal touch).
--
Hans de Vreught                          | John von Neumann:
hdev@dutiaa.tudelft.nl                   | Young man, in mathematics
Delft University of Technology (TWI-ThI) | you don't understand things,
The Netherlands                          | you just get used to them.
From: alou@elde1.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Modest Diversion for Programmers
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:45:43 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne



One solution is :

%%HP: T(3)A(D)F(.);
\<< DUP DUP + SWAP
SIZE 2 + OVER SIZE
SUB NOT
\>>

maurice

alou@elde.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: spell@seq.uncwil.edu (Chris Spell)
Subject: Re: RAMCARDS FOR SELL 128 KB
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:51:47 GMT

In <mckeeveb.715153731@sfu.ca> mckeeveb@monashee.sfu.ca (Gumby - The unknown user) writes:

>Possible solution: Get whoever's in charge of archives (at seq.uncwil.edu?)
>	to create a file of 'ads' for just such products and how to apply
>	for a spot.  This way, people can do some low-level marketing without
>	annoying those of us who don't want to read it.  Opinions, anyone?

I just created a directory called "Ads" in the hp48 directory.  Anyone
can put an ad in there by ftp or send me mail and i'll put it in there.

Chris
From: alou@elde1.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: XYModem v2.1 will come soon
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:12:32 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne


 I will post soon the version 2.1 of the library XYModem which will allow
to send and receive files with XModem and YModem protocol. 
 The files can be any objects, including libraries and Backup HOMEDIR.

 The transfer time is ~ 2 minutes for 60KB (much faster than Kermit).
 The library is aproximatively 3500 bytes long.

 I must finish the documentation and... exams. Be patient...

maurice

alou@elde.epfl.ch
From: jgreff@plains.NoDak.edu (Jason Greff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Resistor Program
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:54:48 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

About a year or so ago someone posted a program that figured out the
resistance of a resistor given the color codes on that resistor.  I have
the program and it seems to be working, but I lost the docs and can't
figure out how to make it work.  Could the author please post directions? 
Thanks in advance.

Jas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: Wanted: a flight simulator for my hp48sx
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:29:28 GMT


I've been meaning to post this for some time but I keep forgetting it's 
simply something that's been on my wish list for a long time.

If anyone out there wants a fun challenge and to impress people just
whip up a flight simulator for the hp48.  It's certainly capable of 
the task as I remember playing with my first flight simulator on an
Apple II+ with 32 or 64K of RAM and it only ran at 1 Mhz.  A flight 
simulator would be something I'd be willing to fork a few of my hard earned
buck for.  Anyone want to take the challenge?

	ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: bobc@natinst.com (Bob Conyne)
Subject: Re: Wanted: a flight simulator for my hp48sx
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:03:58 GMT

>frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:
>
>   I've been meaning to post this for some time but I keep forgetting it's 
>   simply something that's been on my wish list for a long time.
>
>   If anyone out there wants a fun challenge and to impress people just
>   whip up a flight simulator for the hp48.  It's certainly capable of 
>   the task as I remember playing with my first flight simulator on an
>   Apple II+ with 32 or 64K of RAM and it only ran at 1 Mhz.  A flight 
>   simulator would be something I'd be willing to fork a few of my hard earned
>   buck for.  Anyone want to take the challenge?
>
>	   ian
>
>We'd need a good graphics library with polygon fill capability to
>do this.
>
>I have also considered writing a flight simulator, mostly because
>I made a (highly informal) bet with a friend that it could be
>done.  In fact, I think an HP 48 flight simulator could have a
>better frame rate than one for the Apple II--the screen has fewer
>pixels and the processor is better at arithmetic.

I have been considering undertaking this (rather daunting) task.  I did a 3D
graphics program for my master's thesis, so I think my technical skills are
up to it (if a bit rusty).  The biggest hurdle I see is in finding an
assembler for the 48 that is up to the task (unless I'm missing something,
Jan Brittenson's MLDL allows you to examine, but not create, ML code).  Is
there a consensus in the 48 community on the best assembler available for 
writing 48 ML programs?  I vaguely recall something called "asm48" on one of
EduCALC's goodies disks, but I don't know how complete it was.  Any comments/
suggestions?
From: detlef@dmhh.hanse.de (Detlef Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Modest Diversion for Programmers
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 15:10:22 GMT
Organization: Who is Organized ?

akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com writes in article <2a9f465b.1627comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>:

> CHALLENGE: There is a way of unscrambling the scrambled text without
>    using SPLAT or its techniques.  Hint: it only takes about a dozen
>    keystrokes, and no looping or programming or library functions or
>    monkey business is necessary.  Can you figure it out?

"123" SPLAT
DUP SIZE 2 + SWAP DUP + NOT SWAP OVER SIZE SUB

Bye,
	8-Detlef
--
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
|`What a depressingly stupid machine'|             Detlef Mueller           |
| -- Marvin                          |          detlef@dmhh.hanse.de        |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
From: akcs.mage@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (William H. Blohm)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: HP48S vs. HP48SX
Message-ID: <2aa79469.1649.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

No kidding about the 32k running out quickly.  I am only in Calculus
and already I have added on a 128K card.  I have some other programs
on the 48 for my other interests (navigation) and there just isn't
that much room with just 32k.
From: alou@elde1.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Large Strings
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:36:38 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Try this:

- disable LASTARG and LASTSTACK
- put the two strings on stack
- # 62376h SYSEVAL

BE CAREFULL, the function don't check args !

This entry is nammed !append$ by HP.

maurice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: perry@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Hp48 // Apple Newton
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:03:42 GMT

A couple of things :
	I have run across a couple of discussions
in other usenet forums also relating to the Newton.
In both instances, Mathematica, Maple, or a custom
math program was nominated as software for the Newton.
Replies have been from 'no', to an open endorsement
for developing on the Newton from a represenative at
Apple itself.  Apple is now working on 'offshoot' character
recognition (among which math symbols, and musical notes).
	For Apple to take off with it's Newton, the Newton
itself will have to adapt and become handy for the everyday
guy (even the everyday mathematician and musical artist).
Faxing equations dosen't cut it.  People will want the Newton
to DO SOMTHING with what's inside it.  (semi)Simply, part of the
Newton's success will be the application software written
for it.  In another newsgroup, a retort about computing power
came up (I will go into this in a second), in that the 
Newton won't have enough processing power, memory, etc. to
drive high-power math software... but we here at comp.sys.hp48
know better.                                   
	As for the 3 times a 68030, remember what the interface
of the Newton will require.  A multitasking environment that can
easily juggle a document back and forth between applications, and
the pen interface ON TOP of what a normal computer's operating
system would require.  Mind you that the Newton has a custom
designed RISK chip in it's head (and a not too shabby), but that
proccesor was done up to streamline the real heavy stuff like
handwriting recognition, etc.  Yes, I believe Apple has a wonder-
chip driving it's Newton (it will have to), and the raw processing
power will be 3x68030, but effectively, it won't blow your socks
off, since the Newton will be handling umpteen million things in
the background (including your sloppy handwriting).
	It will be extremely interesting to see how Apple plays
their Newton off.  Given enough information about it's innards,
the Newton could go into competition with the Hp48 in the 'neat
electronic gizmo' category (Don't play that off lightly, or even
the 'neat gizmo' part).  Keep your heads up...
	Gee, I guess this is more than a couple o things.  Guess I 
lied.
- BPG
PS : Those about to flame me can stick it...  Well, you get the idea.        
From: akcs.mage@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (William H. Blohm)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:40:03 GMT
Subject: Re: HP 48 card for Apple's Newton??
Message-ID: <2a9bacaa.1612.3comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

What is Apple's Newton?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: 48s expansion question
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 29 Aug 92 10:04:44 CDT

In article <32310005@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> smyers@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (steven myers) writes:
>
> 	I have an HP48s and am dissatisfied with only having 32k to play
>with.  Since the 48sx has the ability to upgrade to 256k expansion cards,
>it occured to me that the 48s probably has the ability to expand to the same
>capability, if one could get a set of schematics and hard wire in the upgrade
>memory chip in the place of the old 32k chip.  Anyone who knows anything about
>this, send me a line at my mailing address.  Any suggestions are helpful.

You're better off trying to sell your 48S (to some unsuspecting newbie freshman
who'll pay you a bundle) and then buying a 48SX (at the dirt cheap prices of the
net), IMHO.  The 48S is simply missing its back panel and expansion port
connector... so, you could open up the 48S and solder in 2 128K RAM modules...
somehow!  (You'll need extra logic to control battery back up, etc.)  This is
rather non-trivial, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone eventually goes to
the trouble to do it.  Changing the 32K system RAM chip for a 256K RAM chip
would not work -- the memory controller in the 48 is set to read that RAM as
32K, so that extra memory would be ignored.  You'd end up replacing the 32K
RAM, the memory controller, and the 48's ROM.  So soldering in memory where the
expansion port is would be the way to go... if you have that much free time and
no income! :-)

						---Joel Kolstad
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:43:27 GMT
Subject: Re: External input to HP48 (question)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: splat

RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMER'S DEPARTMENT
------------------------------------

SPLAT  --  Text Scrambler/Unscrambler, by Joe Horn

INSTRUCTIONS: Original text, SPLAT  -->  Scrambled text
              Scrambled text. SPLAT  -->  Original text

CHALLENGE: There is a way of unscrambling the scrambled text without
   using SPLAT or its techniques.  Hint: it only takes about a dozen
   keystrokes, and no looping or programming or library functions or
   monkey business is necessary.  Can you figure it out?

%%HP: T(1)A(R)F(.); @ SPLAT by Joe Horn
"D9D20E1632C2A20600000DBBF176BA13CE22F88E178BF19D1A1DBBF18DBF13AB
B1F88E1AFE22D9D20ED2A2FDAA14E5A1C58C1B21305DF2293632B21302FE4"

BYTES: #4EF2h 60.5

-Joseph K. Horn-   -Peripheral Vision, Ltd.-
From: jgreff@plains.NoDak.edu (Jason Greff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Tetrisx
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:16:03 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


I have Jon Loschke's Tetrisx which appeared on Goodies Disk #3.  Recently
it crashed on me, so I purged it and got a replacement from my backup. 
This crashed also.  I tried a couple of things, nothing seemed to work. 
Finally I set all flags to default settings, and that did the trick.  Does
anyone know which flag (or flags) must be set to default in order for this
program to run?

-- 
Jason Greff                     North Dakota State University
                                -Fargo, North Dakota
"It's better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and
remove all doubt." --Abraham Lincoln

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

I received your disc yesterday, and have loaded programs and re-mailed
to you today (8/27/92).  Keep me posted