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Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: re: Nissan Bluebird, Canberra
From: duong@resmel.bhp.com.au
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:18:08 +1000

Dear netters,

I would like to sell my car privately (may be on the Trading Post). 
Can someone out there provide me some legal information/or procedure
which I must have before selling a private car.

Thank in advance,
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: william@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (William Kong)
Subject: VCR, Desk, Dinning table (Melbourne Only)
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:54:59 GMT


Hi Folks!

I'm posting this for my friend (ERIC) who has got the following
for sales :

1) Goldstar VCR, $220, negotiable;
2) Desk, four drawers, good condition, $50;
3) Dinning table, round shape, large enough for five people, $75, good
condition; or $300 for the whole lot, not negotiable.


If interested please DO NOT e-mail me! 

Please contact Mr. Eric Cheung or Miss Ann Yeung on 819-0647.

Thanks......


B/RGDS

william  
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From: s921574@otto (Kok CHAN)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: bic helmet, table,chair (melb/vic)
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:53:47 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au

Items for sales:

Bicycle helmet (black colour) : $20
               (yellow colour): $19 (or both of them for $30)
weighting machine : $??
wooden table      : $9
wooden chair      : $4


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RMIT,
Victoria      E-mail address: s921574@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Australia
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: BMX bike
From: agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (p-m agapow)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:33:08 GMT
Distribution: melb
Organization: Calvin Coolidge Home for Dead Biologists


i'm posting another request for someone else ...

This time it's a BMX bike. i'm told it's in very good condition, would
suit an 8 to 12 year old. The asking price is $100. Remember don't email
me, ring 431-1072.

And merry Christmas!

p-m

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paul-michael agapow (agapow@latcs1.oz.au) Machine Intelligence Lab, LaTrobe Uni

        "Teenage sex, nuclear winter, Junior Miss fashion 
               & the mechanics of emotional capitalism ..."
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: cheiu@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (LY Cheiu)
Subject: IBM PostScript Laser Printer(Melbourne)
Organization: Monash University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 11:27:59 GMT

IBM Post scrip laser printer for sale:

Model IBM-4019E

Support for PCL4, HPGL, IBM PPDS.
1.5 Megabytes of memory.
Fast 6 pages per minute
All included with the original box, manuals and the software.

Price: $1800

Please contact Kim on 8181417 or mail jae@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au

RING NOW! :)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Kittens! Free!
From: agapow@latcs1.lat.oz.au (p-m agapow)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:29:55 GMT
Distribution: melb
Organization: Calvin Coolidge Home for Dead Biologists

Hi folks,

2 kittens to give away, in the Melbourne area. The owner assures me that
they are super-cute (sic), the mother is part Persian, one black&white and
one ginger. Free to _great_ home (emphasis by order of owner). BTW,
they're 7 weeks old.

Don't email me, phone 484 0218.


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paul-michael agapow (agapow@latcs1.oz.au) Machine Intelligence Lab, LaTrobe Uni

        "Teenage sex, nuclear winter, Junior Miss fashion 
               & the mechanics of emotional capitalism ..."
From: nxh109@rsphy1.anu.edu.au (Nicholas Hauser)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Yamaha WR200 (Canberra or Sydney)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 06:48:37 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: nxh109@rsphy1.anu.edu.au (Nicholas Hauser)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.15.51



Hi guys
One beautiful WR200, just over 1 year old.
Immaculate condition, with little use.
Acerbis plastic
New tyres.
Best dirt bike I've ever had.
Selling due to lack of use.
Offers around $3500.

Nick Hauser.

Ph work (06) 249 0037
email  nxh109@rsphy1.anu.edu.au
From: gtj@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Glenn T Jayaputera)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Re: NEW 240MEG QUANTUM HD - 2years warranty
Date: 25 Dec 92 10:06:20 GMT
Distribution: cs
Organization: RMIT Department of Computer Science

tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tooraj Enayati) writes:

>rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ralph Lee) writes:

>>I have a few brand new quatum hard drives for sale 240meg AT/ide lps
>>drives for $840ono with 2 years warranty...

>Another over priced item? Anyone can get a WD 215MB hrad disk with 2
>warranty for ~$650. Now I don't think the 25MB difference is 
>worth ~$200.

Yeah but this is Quantum you are talking about!! I am not saying the price
quoted is `pricy' but Quantum is regarded as one of the best HD and quite
pricy in the market!!
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: eitan@syacus.acus.oz.au (Eitan Froumine (Melb))
Subject: Multi Band Radio Receiver
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:57:01 GMT

SONY ICF-7600A Multi Band RADIO RECEIVER

AM     530-1605KHz
FM      76-108MHz
SW1  5.950- 6.200MHz
SW2  7.100- 7.300MHz
SW3  9.500- 9.800MHz
SW4 11.700-12.000MHz
SW5 15.100-15.450MHz
SW6 17.700-17.900MHz
SW7 21.450-21.750MHz



$80

Call Eitan  AH 03-578-7427   BH 03-550-1688

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Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: yar@cs.su.oz.au (Ray Loyzaga)
Subject: Aplle Mac Powerbook 170
Reply-To: rex@cs.su.oz.au (Rex Di Bona)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:55:25 GMT

Basser Department of Computer Science has a
Apple Powerbook 170 (Mac) available for sale. This computer
is in good working order and is currently in service.
The system comes with a 40Mb hard disk and 4Mb memory.

Interested parties should contact me with any bids.
All bids will be considered by the department before
any sales proceed. The department reserves the right not to proceed
with any sales. The closing date for any bids to be considered
is Friday 15 Jan'93.

The item for sale is:
Apple Macintosh Powerbook 170

For any enquiries contact:
Rex Di Bona (rex@cs.su.oz.au (02) 692 3807)
Basser Department of Computer Science
Sydney University, Madsen Bldg, F09.
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: RWG@buc.edu.au (Rod Griffin)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Atari Lynx Game For Sale
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 03:34:54 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.8.8

Slime World for the Lynx 
Electro Cop for the Lynx
Roadblasters for the Lynx
Blue Lightning for the Lynx

All games in A1 condition
Will swap or sell for $25 ONO each

Rod Griffin                                "I hate Illinois Nazis"
Finance Section                             - Blues Brothers
Ballarat University College
Gear Ave
Mt Helen
Victoria 
Australia 3350
From: rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ralph Lee)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: NEW 240MEG QUANTUM HD - 2years warranty
Date: 23 Dec 1992 02:07:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

I have a few brand new quatum hard drives for sale 240meg AT/ide lps
drives for $840ono with 2 years warranty...


Be quick!
Ralph
From: Paul.Sanders@f104.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Paul Sanders)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Air Conditioner
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:52:42

  CHEVRON Air Conditioner
  1/2 Horse Power
  Serviced & re-gased last summer
  Perfect working order. $200

Leave message here or netmail to Fidonet, 3:633/104

  cya later,

           Paul.

 * Origin: Dark Crystal,+61-3-720-7724, Line 3 (3:633/104)
From: craig@sleeper.apana.org.au (Craig Dewick)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Re: NEW 240MEG QUANTUM HD - 2years warranty
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 10:22:13 GMT
Organization: Desolation Road Railfan BBS

tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tooraj Enayati) writes:

>I just compared Quantum HD with even a BETTER drive. That should be 
>enough.

Just for interests sake, there is a place advertising in the Trading
Post that they sell Quantum LPS-240's for $720! I suspect this is for
the IDE version, not the SCSI, although if it IS indeed for the SCSI
version then I'll be buying some! The last time I checked the price
(nine months ago) they were $1360 each.
 
BTW, the place is called Dancom, and they're at Belmore in Sydney.
Phone them on (02)759-8112.
From: zpfeng@neumann.une.edu.au (Zhuopeng Feng)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale,une.china.culture
Subject: computers 4 sale
Keywords: for sale
Date: 22 Dec 92 06:19:59 GMT
Followup-To: aus.forsale


	Cheaper computers !!!

range from 386SX to 486DX. All brand new

	Contact Mr. Hao Zhang
	67 Grandview Street
	Pymble, NSW 2073
	Phone & Fax (02) 4408078
From: rlee@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ralph Lee)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: NEW 240MEG Quantum HD -2 years warranty
Date: 23 Dec 1992 02:26:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

I have a few brand new quatum hard drives for sale 240meg AT/ide lps
drives for $840ono with 2 years warranty...


Be quick!
Ralph
From: msp@pos.apana.org.au (Mark Purcell)
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: How are duplicate articles handled in Australia?
Summary: To broadcast or single feed?
Keywords: Path: Message-ID: news feeds
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 10:48:52 +1000
Distribution: aus
Organization: Private site

Due to a bizarre network topology locally generated news 
from this site can reach the Internet via sites in 
Sydney, Melbourne and Perth.  This has proven to be a 
desirable arrangement as it provides higher reliability 
that posted articles will actually make it out to the 
rest of the world, as sites can be down, links can be 
down etc.  This is also the suggested way of providing 
high reliability in the 'How to become a USENET site' FAQ. 
 
This also has the effect that sites which are connected 
to my site see my locally generated news earlier than 
they normally would and generally wouldn't receive those 
articles via their main news feed. 
 
Of course this will generate a number of duplicate 
articles with the same Message-ID: with different initial
that when multiple of these articles arrive at the same 
site, that site will only process the first of the 
articles and will only ever pass on one copy of this 
article.  With the effect that all sites only see one 
copy of the article, and a couple of sites see multiple 
copies but only process one copy of the article.  This of 
course saving multiple copies of the article appearing on 
all sites and making this broadcast 'flooding' type of 
news transport desirable. 
 
I believe that Internet news transport does things even 
smarter than this and only passes on articles which 
aren't on the receiving machine, checked via the Path: & 
the collisions would generally occur only ever see one 
copy of the article and only pass it on to those sites 
which don't already have the article. 
 
My question is this.  Is this broadcast 'flooding' type 
news transport safe and/or desirable to do in Australia? 
 
Mark 
 
  

>From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
>Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,news.announce.newusers,news.answers
>Subject: How to become a USENET site
>Approved: spaf@cs.purdue.edu, news-answers-request@MIT.Edu
>
[Stuff deleted]
>
>  In order to make your machine a USENET site, you need to find other
>sites on the USENET that are willing to feed you news and/or mail.
>You might want to locate more than one such site if you want higher
>reliability.
>

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Mark Purcell, 62/25 Market Street, SYDNEY NSW 2000.  (02) 283 5598
Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.general,seminars
From: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: aus.news,alt.cd-rom,bit.listserv.cdromlan,bit.listserv.cdrom-l,alt.config
Subject: RFD: New group aus.cdrom
Date: 28 Dec 1992 01:55:19 GMT
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: britt.pax.tpa.com.au

This is a proposal for a new newsgroup called aus.cdrom.

Group Charter
=============

This group is intended to provide a forum for discussion of cdrom related
issues to Australian users that are otherwise lost in the morass of postings
in the US based groups.

Specifically issues such as local distributors of software and hardware,
prices, difficulties with imports, local mastering and pressing facilities,
the impending availability of PhotoCD in Australia, legal matters concerning
copyright both conventional and regional, use of CDROM products across networks,
particularly AARNet and the associated licensing implications, and so on.

Status: un-moderated
======

Of course :)

Procedural Matters
==================

Please forward any comments to me as well as posting them if you wish. If there
is no really strong opposition, and even a vague hint of interest, I will
"newgroup" the group in a few weeks, in keeping with accepted lack of any
specific practice within the "aus" hierarchy.

I selected the spelling cdrom rather than cd-rom because I keep forgetting the '-'
when I read the alt.cd-rom group ! I don't think this is a big issue :)

--
David A. Clunie (dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au)
PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia)

Newsgroups: aus.followup
From: mwp@iconix.oz.au (Michael Paddon)
Subject: Re: Shake -- A Makefile Generator
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:27:39 GMT

In <1992Dec19.050107.5587@physiol.su.OZ.AU> john@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Mackin) writes:
>I wouldn't want anyone to misunderstand this article.  I don't intend
>to slag off at Michael's tool (which I haven't looked at).  (Although
>I am _delighted_ to slag off at imake...)
> The problem with this approach
>is that the bottom level is still "make".  That means you get all of
>make's `features' as a free extra bonus, and some of those are just
>the features you don't want.  Especially since make is a hot favourite
>for hacking by vendors, who almost always break it in interestingly
>obscure ways.

Yes. However, the problem with rewriting make (ie. cake) is that no
two people will ever agree as to what exactly needs fixing. Not to
mention that you are building something that is not backward compatible
with all the makefiles that are already out there.

I've used cake and there are things it does excellently as well
as some very neat ideas. If it matches what you want to do, I recommend
that you use it.

Unfortunately, it did not solve the problem in what I considered to be
the best possible way. So I wrote my own package, providing a novel way
of preprocessing a file. Then I spent more than a year refining the
basic idea in a real development environment. So far, I've been very happy
with the results; so has everyone else who's used it.

BTW, shake always generates full rules, and uses "make -r" so that
all those wonderful vendor supplied rules get turned off. This gets
around the most annoying make incompatibilities. As an aside the
worst of these is the SYSV rule that wants to compile foo.c into foo
automatically. This caused headaches with MH, amongst others...

The bottom line is that different people have different requirements.
Both John Mackin and myself concur; vanilla make doesn't work well in
a serious programming environment and imake is not the answer.
Following that conclusion, I suggest that people evaluate the available
tools and choose the one which best suits them. That way everyone wins.

                                       Michael
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: KEYLINK/AUSIMAIL Gateways
From: manager@business.ntu.edu.au (Peter RHODES)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:34:33 GMT
Organization: Business Faculty, Northern Territory University

Could someone out there inform me whether there are gateways to the above 
mentioned Aust. Telecom email services & if so how to send mail from both 
sides.


Thanks in advance.......have a very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.


Peter Rhodes


Phone: 		61 89 466534
Internet:	Rhodes_P@Darwin.ntu.edu.au
From: daemon@jatz.aarnet.edu.au ()
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: QLD isolated
Date: 22 Dec 1992 01:16:28 GMT
Organization: Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNet)
Reply-To: "Mark I. Williams" <M.Williams@cc.uq.oz.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.130.204.4



> The link from the QLD hub to the national hub at melbourne broken around
> 11:30 today (tues 22nd dec).  We're checking.

The link came back just as mysteriously about 25 minutes later.

cheers,

Mark


Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Aarnet should not be pornographic!
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:46:18 GMT

In article <11521@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee) writes:
> I don't understand why whenever the word "pornographic" comes up
> everyone associates it with censorship and rights.  If you want
> to talk about the rights of people wanting to look at
> pornographic pictures then what about the rights of people who
> have to suffer as a consequence of those pictures.  Some argue
> the possibility is small and that there is no hard evidence
> linking rapes and sexual abuses with pornographic picture.  
> 
> I want to say forget about your hard evidence and look at your
> own instinct (here I am talking to males on the net).  Most
> people at one time or another is bombarded with pictures of naked
> females.  Even the recent Kentucky Fried Chicken ad on TV has
> pictures of nearly naked females.  Now can you tell me honestly
> that if you look at these pictures, you don't get turned on

Ah, so you have just asserted that 'naked females' are a 'community
accepted norm' and then ask that we accept from you assertions that
other images are 'pornographic'? Plus, just to ice the farce, a plea
to ignore any evidence!!

>   If you can't live with dirty pictures on your X-terminal
> then why don't you just buy a copy of Penthouse and scan the
> picture and have it as your background.
> 

Them you exort us to commit a criminal offence.

> Please try to think of this issue as a matter of protecting the
> rights of women and childern.  It is not a issue of big brother.
> 

I think of it as an issue of protecting my childrens rights from 'protectors'
such as your self.

Get a Usenet

~Paul
From: zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael Saleeba)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: FAQ: Australian public access Internet
Date: 31 Dec 1992 21:16:16 +1100
Organization: Zikzak public access UNIX, Melbourne Australia
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au

An error in the draft FAQ has been pointed out to me. Contrary to what
was stated, DIALix _does_ provide feeds to other machines. To clarify
another point - DIALix is a full commercial concern competing directly
at the commercial end of the market with connect.com and Pro-Net.

I congratulate DIALix on the excellent services they provide and
apologise for the error.

The FAQ was written to bring an overview of publically-accessible
Internet facilities to anyone who wants to be involved. I want to make
it as accurate and impartial as possible so please mail me if you have
suggestions or corrections. I am however only human so don't expect
perfection first time around.

If people from each of the public access networking organisations
could put together a few lines describing the services they offer it
would aid in keeping the FAQ accurate.

+-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------+
|          -|-   Zik   -|-          |"Oh painted vile in lurid hue /         |
|     zik@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au    | the snarling horse that waits for you" |
|          Michael Saleeba          | - "Carousel" - Siouxsie Sioux          |
+-----------------------------------+----------------------------------------+
From: comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Aarnet should not be pornographic!
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:54:27 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee) writes:

>In <1992Dec28.041650.17112@cltr.uq.OZ.AU> root@cltr.uq.oz.au (Hulk Hogan) writes:

>>Just because knives are sharp doesn't mean no one should have them. 
>>Someone said to me recently,"porn makes good poeple better, and bad
>>people worse". I think she was right.

>Ok, then why do we ban things like Heroin and Crack ?  I am sure
>you and me can handle those things better so why ban them ?  

Although this is moving massively off-topic, de-criminalising such drugs
is a long-term possibility for Australia on public health and
law-enforcement grounds.  Certain other countries (the Netherlands
springs to mind) have done exactly that for Heroin and have reported
encouraging results ... they report that they have approximately 10,000
heroin addicts, and that after making it a prescription drug, that
number has not increased.  In fact, heroin-related crime appears to have
decreased, and greater longevity of addicts has resulted.  This is a
hopeful sign in the battle to recover these people into more mainstream
society.

The thing is, imposing short-sighted "solutions" often exacerbates
problems, rather than solving them.  Looking at problems with an open
mind may allow us all to develop better strategies to improve our
troubled society.  Treating everyone as children wont help us ... things
like blanket bans or censorship just hide the problems.

If you are concerned with the issues related to the horrendous rates of
physical and sexual abuse in this society (and contrary to popular
wisdom, it's not just men who are offenders, although they are far in
the majority) look for the root causes and help stamp them out, and not
impose your thinly veiled morality upon us all.

Peter

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fax:    +61 9 380 1041                     Guild of Undergraduates
phone:  +61 9 380 3929                     University of Western Australia
"It was the banana that did it!" - Julia Marley
From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Aarnet should not be pornographic!
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:09:17 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Dec28.041650.17112@cltr.uq.OZ.AU> root@cltr.uq.oz.au (Hulk Hogan) writes:

>Just because knives are sharp doesn't mean no one should have them. 
>Someone said to me recently,"porn makes good poeple better, and bad
>people worse". I think she was right.

Ok, then why do we ban things like Heroin and Crack ?  I am sure
you and me can handle those things better so why ban them ?  

>Put simply, I believe it's better to remove the unstable people from the
>society, than to try remove all the items from the society that can
>provoke the unstable people.

Please reread my post, I didn't say ban all porn did I ?
Although, I would be happy if they were but then you would say it
is taking away our rights (male rights).  Did you know that porn
can be addictive and not only that it gets worse until it gets to
the stage of violent porn.  If some addictive drugs are banned
then why don't we ban porn.

Sorry I stray from the topic of discussion.  

--
Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia