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From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: Stores in Germany vs US
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:15:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.144920.26644@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, 
gsmith@lauren.uucp (Gene W. Smith) writes:
|>In article <1992Sep9.011205.14237@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> 
volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Volker A. Brandt ) writes:
|>>Apparently, you don't open your eyes to see.  Sure it's nice to go out and 
|>>buy two sixpacks, a video tape and a canary from the big supermarket next
|>door
|>>at three in the morning.  But think of the black single mother who has to 
|>>stand at the register all night, for minimum wages ... two sides to every
|>coin.

A statement which is logically a tad questionable. 

|>Let me see if I understand this correctly--in Germany, there are all
|>these crappy laws about when stores can be open (and what they can
|>sell, etc.) These are inconvenient for consumers 

Gentlecritters, they are meant to be, or rather, they were meant to be.
Those laws were concocted at the beginning of World War I explicitly to
cut down on general consumption of the general populace. Before the war
the opening times were much less restricted.

However, after the war the economic situation was in such dire straits, 
that, I suppose, the law was overlooked or shoved onto the backburner.  

|>                                                 (meaning ordinary
|>folks, i.e. you and I) but may be defended on the grounds that they
|>increase unemployment.
|>
|>Did I get that right?

Evidently not. After the Wirtschaftswunder, when manpower was at a 
premium, the trade unions, for right or for wrong claimed those laws 
as social achievements for the salespersonell, and, well, there is 
something to it. 

Nowadays those jobs pay so badly and are of such low status that the
retail trade is very hard put getting qualified personell _at_ all (and 
You cannot do everything with on-the-job-trainees), let alone all through
the night. The concern, is that the only shops financially capable of 
giving all night service will be humungous super markets, who already are
a tad exploitive about their employees.  

This is not as clear cut as most disgruntled Merkins claim it to be.

|>     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/IWR/Ruprect-Karls University 
|>                gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de


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Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: rkimm@ameris.ameritech.com (Robert L. Kimmel)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Organization: Ameritech, Hoffman Estates, IL
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:48:58 GMT

kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh) writes:


>In article <1992Sep1.084130.2377@aber.ac.uk>, spk@uk.ac.aber (Stephen Kingston) writes:
>|> 
>|> Actually, I think that, per Capita, the British travel (abroad) more then 
>|> any other nation.

>No chance, it's easily the Dutch followed by the Germans, if only judging
>by the traffic jams each summer and winter, full of Germans and Dutch tourists
>as they travel to the snow/sun through Switzerland :-).

>kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch

Although I have no statistics to back me up here, I would guess that the per
capita international travel record belongs to some very small country, such as
the Vatican or Monaco (maybe Singapore?).

BK
rkimm@ameris.center.il.ameritech.com
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Friday, 11 Sep 1992 18:49:10 CET
From: <KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: YOSEMITE LODGE PHONE NUMBER?

Try the park info centre number first, they may be able to give you the
right number - (209)372-0200.

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From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: travel gifts
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:59:57 GMT
Reply-To: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <199209150203.AA09284@kaukau.comp.vuw.ac.nz> andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond) writes:
>
>What would be a nice gift for a prospective traveller?  Things like
>swiss army knives, flashlights, etc., I guess.  I'm looking for
>inspiration ...

  Well, a gift which was given to me, and for which I have many, many times
  expressed a silent blessing to the giver, was a top-notch water filter.
  The kind with the charcoal filter, that gets the stomach-killing type
  of amoeba out of the water.  Why I remember one time in Bandalier, when
  the only thing between me and death was a muddy back-wash from the
  Rio Grande...:-) (long, boring war story deleted for humanitarian reasons).

  John


--
John W. Nall              | Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
nall@mailer.scri.fsu.edu  | Florida State University, Tallahassee, Florida
   "A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and thou....and perhaps some
	 munchies, couple of pillows, some music.." - Omar Khayyam (modern)
From: mgn@cup.portal.com (Mike G Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: LAOS
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:35:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Has anyone been to Laos recently?  If so, do you have any
visa/package tour suggestions to update those in the
1991 Lonely Planet publication?

I'm planning to go in December.  

I was in Vietnam last year and found the Lonely Planet book
to be quite helpful.

+-------------------------------+--------------------------------+
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|   BX 1510                     |  MCI:   mnewman (333-1196)     |
|   Saipan MP 96950             |  Phone: 670-234-7726           |
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: colette@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Colette Goodyear)
Subject: Hockey in Boston
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:40:53 GMT

Hello there

My husband and I are planning a trip to Boston and we have
a very flexible schedule when it comes to departure dates etc.

Both of us are hockey fans and would like to catch the opening
home game of the Bruins.  When is it and who are they playing
(hope it's Montreal)?  What are ticket prices, the chances of
getting them and where do I call to order them?

Any tips on place to eat are also appreciated.  I'm
adventurous when it comes to food but my husband isn't.
We're also not seafood lovers (I know, Boston is famous for seafood
but then so is our native province and we grew up with the stuff
too).  I also love museums and art galleries so feel free
to mention your favourite places around Boston!

I don't read this newsgroup regularly so please e-mail me at
colette@morgan.ucs.mun.ca.  Thanks very much!

Colette Goodyear
Memorial University of Newfoundland
colette@morgan.ucs.mun.ca 
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.german
From: pjd@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Peter J Dotzauer)
Subject: Re: german movies, video
Keywords: video
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: soc.culture.german
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:49:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.150224.8708@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> ejdath@donner.uucp (25832-dath) writes:
>
>What I would like
>is to get some children's movies, TV shows, etc. as well as some adult type
>stuff like maybe Star Trek in german.  I need to have it in NTSC VHS format

Here's a place that sells German-Language videos in NTSC format:

German Language Video Center
7625-27 Pendelton Pike
Indianapolis, IN 46226
(317) 547-1257
(317) 547-1263 fax

They do mail order. Ask them to send you a catalog.

>if possible.  I don't know anything about getting it converted even if I
>knew where to get this stuff in PAL.

If you have PAL stuff, you don't need to get it converted if you get
bi-standard (PAL/NTSC) VCR and TV equipment.

A place selling such equipment is

Appliances Overseas, Inc.
Department I
330 Fifth Ave.
New York, NY 10001
(212) 545-8001
(212) 629-0769

If you have tons of money, you can also get a converter-VCR from
Panasonic (Model AW-1 ?) for about 2500 $$.
-- 
Peter J. Dotzauer - pjd+@osu.edu - pjd+@ohstmail - osu-mps!pjd
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Help with ATMs in Europe wanted.
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:21:42 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

arevalo@binah.cc.brandeis.edu wrote:
> I'm going to England and Spain maybe France in November.  I would like to
> know if there are lots of ATMs (on Cirrus network) in these countries?

Dear god, not again...

This one comes up just about weekly.  Bill didn't bother reading the group
before posting, or he'd have certainly caught a thread on this very topic.

There must be *somebody* out there who's enough of an ATM freak to do an
FAQ on what sorts of ATM exist where and what functionality you can expect
with card A from issuer B in machine type C in city D.

Isn't there?

More generally, this newsgroup is seriously deficient in FAQs.  I'd be
prepared to maintain one on Turkey; others we need seem to include courier
flights, bikes on trains, the economics of Eurail, hotels in Paris,
transport from London airports, Caribbean resort facilities, good honeymoon
locations...

Any takers?

-- 
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17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
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From: pavlik@apap4.pap.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Information needed: Grand Canyon NP
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:50:40 GMT
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center

In article <1992Sep6.230747.14308@syacus.acus.oz.au>, aung@syacus.acus.oz.au (Aung Thurein) writes:

>                ............. is worth going th Grand Canyon National
> Park as well while we are there. Could anyone give us any suggestion
> on the followings?
> 
> - what kind of weather should we expect in Grand Canyon NP area 
>   in late October?

> - SHould we join a tour group from LA or should we drive there?

  I would not join a tour group. You may fly to Grand Conyon Airport or
  Flagstaff (or take Amtrak to Flagstaff) and rent a car locally.

> - Is 2-3 days stay in the park is enough ?

   Depends on what you want to do. If you want to hike the Canyon not.

> - Things we should not miss.

   Difficult to answer.

> - Any suggestion for accomodation ?

  Rather inexpensive motels you will find at Williams. Closer to the Canyon
  are some motels in Tusayan (I was once in the Seven Miles Lodge) which are
  a little bit cheaper than the Hotels in the park.

    Andreas  Pavlik
    University of Vienna

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: myk@muppet.bt.co.uk (Mike Holland)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Phuket
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:04:35 GMT
Reply-To: myk@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Laboratories

Phuket is very 'developed', i.e. lots of hotels, bars, restaurants, prostitutes etc.
 But London is closer and better for that. (insert favourite smiley)
When in Phuket, I heard Koh Sumui (sp?) was a lot better. 
Anyone been there?

 Mike Holland, BT Lab's, Martlesham Heath IP5 7RE, England.
 phone: +44 473 648160; fax: +44 473 648219; e-mail: myk@muppet.bt.co.uk
 <witty quote still on order>
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:43:43 EDT
From: Fred Houlihan: 814-238-4123, Fax:238-1604 <FTH@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Malaria

Thanks to derek@nezsdc in New Zealand for the good info on this.  I tried
to reply directly but our mailer bounced it back.

Thanks again, Fred
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Bahamas
Date: 15 Sep 1992 09:04:06 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Bahamas
============================================================
Bahamas - Cancellation
 September 14, 1992

This notice cancels the travel advisory for the Bahamas issued 
August 27, 1992.
From: ISIS@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Ruth McDunn)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Damage to Kauai???
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:40:20 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Sent mail, but it bounced - so here it is.

According to our local newspaper and TV, the damage is severe.  There
were about 3,500 tourists on the island when the storm hit, and most of
them don't have have place to stay now.  They estimate over 10,000 people
are homeless (with a 50,000 population base, that is significant).  Electric
service has not yet been restored and telephones are spotty.  The airport
was still closed to commercial traffic, as of this morning.  The control tower
was damaged and planes were tossed around.

The newspaper also said, about the Na Pali coast "Hugh chunks of the shoreline
were washed away.  It's like the coast aged a century in one day." - Kauai
Mayor JoAnn Yukimura.

I would suggest contacting your travel agent.  Right now you can't get to
the island, at least by air.  The tourists on the island are hitching rides
back to Oahu on the empty emergency supply planes and boats.  Things may
improve by October 9, but that just isn't very far away.  However, there
are other islands which were not significantly damaged.

If you can get a link into any of the San Francisco Bay area newspapers, they
are providing a lot of coverage and will be listing damages to specific
resort areas as the information becomes available.  The general number for
the San Jose Mercury News is 408/920-5000.

Hope this helps.  If it were me, I'd try another island or give it a year.

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From: chris@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Bostak)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: qx: best current malaria pills?
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:17:18 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

I was advised to (and did) take Lariam for malaria.  Lariam is the trade
name for something else, mephloquine ? (sp?).  I don't remember exactly.
You take it the same once a week and time before and after routine as
described in an earlier response.

Chris


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HP Stanford Park Division                  |  (415) 857-2075
1501 Page Mill Road, Palo Alto, CA 94304   |
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: parkerg@osshe.edu (Greg Parker)
Subject: Mexico
Organization: Oregon State System of Higher Education
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:33:21 GMT

Has anyone been to the Mexican silver-making town of Taxco (sp?)
My wife saw an article about it and wants to go during 
our trip to Xtapa.  (leaving in two weeks)

Also, still looking for information about Mexico
City.  We will be spending 2 1/2 days there in
the Zona Rosa.  Anything not to miss?


o
 
 


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jja@fnbc.com (Joseph Alotta)
Subject: Re: Info about New Jersey neighborhoods sought
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 20:32:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.203320.17912@webo.dg.com> acantin@dg-webo.rtp.dg.com  
(Anne Cantin ) writes:
> Hi fellow netters!
>    I just found out that my brother and his new bride will be moving to
> New Jersey (due to job relocation.)  I know the job is in Far Hills

that whole area is very nice.  you can drive from miles in any direction  
and not see urban blight.  it's a bit pricey, but that doesn't seem to be  
your worry.  this is the center of the good life, if materialism is your  
thing.

new jersey taxes everything.  you're paycheck will look like the sysout  
from a MVS job.  some people i know like in PA and drive on the interstate  
to work.  it's about 45 minutes and the cost in PA is much less.

i would suggest you just rent a car and drive around for a couple days.

joe.

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! joe alotta                                    jja@fnbc.com !                                               
!                                             (312) 732-3439 !
!                                                            !
! "The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing." !
! Dr. George Sweeney                                         !
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From: laras@storm.sandiego.sgi.com (Lara Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Traveling To New York
Keywords: New York
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:18:33 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I will be traveling to New York Sept. 23-27 and was wondering if anyone
could suggest some sights for me to see.  This is my 1st trip to New York
(and the East Coast.) All suggestions will be appreciated.
-- 
Lara Steele 		laras@sandiego.sgi.com
Silicon Graphics	Tel (619) 546-0409
San Diego Office	Fax (619) 546-0410
			
"Life Is A Highway And I Want To Ride It All Night Long!"
From: alan@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Alan S. Mazer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Jamaica and alternatives?
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:58:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL

Some time ago I seem to recall a big flame fest about Jamaica, some people
liking it and others not, because of poverty or whatever.  I've just become
engaged and my fiancee wants to go to Jamaica for our honeymoon.  So.  Is
this a good idea or not?  We've both spent time in third world countries, but
in this case I think we'd like to be pampered for a couple weeks.  Is Jamaica
a good choice?
-- 
 
-- Alan                        # Mountain Dew and doughnuts...
   ..!ames!elroy!alan          # because breakfast is the most important meal
   alan@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov     # of the day.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: steve@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Myers)
Subject: Dallas/Ft Worth info needed
Organization: Eaton Semiconductor Equipment Division, Beverly, MA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:18:05 GMT

I'd like some suggestions on things to do in the Dallas/Ft Worth area.  I'll
be there Columbus Day weekend plus a few more days.  In particular, I'd like
suggestions for restaurants, night clubs, museums, historic areas and any
special events going on at that time.  Also any scenic/nature sites within
100 miles of the city.  I guess that covers alot.  

Thanks,
Steve
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From: esrlb@warwick.ac.uk (Simon Browne)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Mongolia?
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:38:27 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

I wonder if anybody knows the present state of play regarding travel in
Mongolia? The last I could gather, it was necessary to have all
accomodation pre-booked and other such nasty things, but is the country
showing any sign of opening up for more adventurous activities?

Any information would be appreciated,

Simon.
Xref: sparky rec.travel:12988 soc.culture.nordic:5524
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Hotel information for Copenhagen
From: AFT0@ICINECA.CINECA.IT (Valeria Frontini)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 11:50:24 SET
Organization: CINECA

>In article <1992Sep1.182703.15152@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> daver@ldgo.columbia.edu (dave reynolds) writes:
>Hi there,
>
>I am looking for information for the following hotels in Copenhagen:
>Hotel Viking, Hotel Astoria, Mission hotels, Esplanaden, and
>Skovshoved (in Charlottenlund).  I would be interested to hear
>of how these rate in terms of location, cost, quality, etc.  For
>Skovshoved, I would be curious to know how easy it is to get to
>and from Copenhagen.  Any other suggestions would be welcome.  I will
>in Copenhagen in late September/early October, will off-season rates be
>in effect?
>Please post or e-mail.  Thanks in advance.
>
>David Reynolds
>Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
>(working on a disclaimer)
>
 I was this July at Hebron Mission Hotel in Copenhagen, and I
 recommend it very much: confortable, silent, clean,
 near the centre of the town and reasonably cheap.
 I payed 600 DK for a 3 bed room, with breakfast.
 Sorry I don't know about off-season rates.
 Do not stay at the Astoria: it's expensive, not clean, not silent:
 the trains shake it.
 E-mail me if you want other informations.
 
 Valeria Frontini
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: becky@ms-1.gvl.unisys.com (Becky Hollis)
Subject: INFO NEEDED....AMERICAN EXPRESS TRAVEL VOUCHERS
Reply-To: becky@ms-1.gvl.unisys.com (Becky Hollis)
Organization: Paramax, the part of Unisys that makes money
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:12:26 GMT

I need information about the American Express student vouchers...are they still 
available and how do you qualify.  I would appreciate any information and
phone numbers if possible.

Thanks in advance.

becky
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.restaurants
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Need info on Boston, Cape Cod, Newport, RI, and Providence
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:15:25 GMT

gwauford@utkux1.utk.edu (Gail Wauford) writes:
>I will be visiting Boston, Cape Cod, Newport, RI, and Providence the
>week of October 23-November 1. I would appreciate any information on
>reasonably priced hotels or bed and breakfasts, restaurants, 

In Boston, try Elephant Walk.  Exquisite Cambodian/French food.

In Providence, the place to be is Al Forno (or Lucky's.)  The grilled
pizza at Al Forno is exquisite, worth the drive from TN (or IN or anyplace else
within 1000 miles or so.  They also have desserts made to order, which
must be ordered with the meal.  I hope to get back there for a full meal
sometime.  Not cheap but worth it I think.

>places to see/avoid, and events during this week.

Cape Cod is a place to avoid at all costs.  Unless of course you like
traffic jams, crowds, silly touron attractions, and bad food.  

Go down to Westport for donuts at Butler's instead, the whipped cream
filled donuts are rumored to be wonderful. 

A place to see is the Boston Fine Arts Museum.  Check out the
shipbuilding miniatures, the blue enamel art deco vacuum tube radios,
the wedding crown "Moon, Sun and Stars" and the fine musical
instrument collection, particularly the bass clarinet.  Also, the
collection of paintings by a guy named Heade [?] in the randomly
arranged American collection are worth checkin out.

If you like odd bits of gastronomic history, a "dry" pizza at
Santarpio's in Boston is worth trying.  Insist on _only_ the grated
hard cheeses and garlic (no mozarella.)  The hard cheeses are quite
rich...  They will fuss and fret, but tell em you really truly want it
that way.   (Pizza was originally a way to keep bread ovens busy all
day; this dry pizza is a way of showing off the crust.)
-- 
Kiran Wagle <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.german