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From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Subject: Re: UN MAP SANS KASHMIR
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:20:57 GMT

In article <Bx9925.BDr@acsu.buffalo.edu> v122npej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer A Fazili) writes:
>It is very unfortunate that civilized, mature, adults cannot discuss events of
>history without lowering themselves to base name calling and other acts of
>juveniles. 

I wonder what it is that Sareer considers "name-calling?" Is it the
reference to the supporters of Kashmir secession as being "Islamic
Fundamentalists" that he is objecting to?

What Sareer is absolutely failing to take note of is that he himself,
preferring to be called a civilized, mature, adult, is supporting and
defending the barbaric philosophy of resorting to terrorism to carve
homelands for Muslims out of India by evicting, terrorizing, and killing
all those who do not agree with the terrorists' viewpoint. He may think
that it is smart to hide the objectives of Dar-ul-Islam under the veneer
of Kashmiri's ambitions, but this veneer gets ripped apart the moment he
talks of the sufferings of Kashmiris and acts oblivious to the fact that
300,000 of these same Kashmiris are living as refugees in other parts of
India.

As per the partitionings of India to create Dar-ul-Islams, Pakistan was 
The Last One. All other attempts must be crushed ruthlessly. India 
can't go on with this kind of idiocity for ever. If somebody doesn't 
like to live in India in a multi-cultural and multi-religious environment 
I wouldn't want India stopping him/her from emigrating to the nation 
of his/her choice. And before you complain further, let me just remind you
that immediately after partition, the population density of India was
more than double of that of Pakistan and it is well known that Bangladesh is
much more densely populated than the erstwhile Western wing of the 
homeland created in the name of Islam/Muslims.


>Sareer A. Fazili


---raj

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: phoffman@orac.holonet.net (Paul E. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Ayurveda
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:40:02 GMT

sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:

>Ayurveda (& other alternative therapies) have figured on and off on sci.med but 
>have recd bad reviews (as quackery) from "strong" believers of Western 
>medicine. Which is the main reason for the misc.health.alternative proposal 
>which has reached the end of the month-long discussion period.

Sounds interesting. However, I assume that such a discussion group will
also discuss many other things in which I am not interested.

>Keep tuned to news.announce.newgroups if you are interested
>in such discussions. The CFV (Call For Votes) should be out within a
>week.

Will do. In the meantime, I am researching how to set up a mailing list
that will be specific to ayurveda.
-- 
||  Why qoute someone else?  ||
From: mk5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Manu S. Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian E-mail and Networks
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:52:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oezeJga00WBM43jYsp
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



Please send me all information available. I am compiling all info on
this topic and will post it on the net soon.


                                                    Manu Kumar
                                                    (sneaker)
_____________________________________________________________________________
Class of 1992,Modern School,Barakhamba Road,New Delhi...MHS is the best!!
Freshman, Carnegie Mellon University, Electrical and Computer Engineering.
Campus Address: A-306 Hamerschalg House, Margaret Morrison St., Mail Box 
#4532, Pittsburgh,PA 15213,Tel(fax):(412)-268-4322,Email:mk5a@andrew.cmu.edu
Home Address: 13-A, Amrita Shergill Marg, New Delhi 110 003, India, 
Tel : (91-11)-611-624, (91-11)-462-6629, Fax : (91-181)-778-27
_____________________________________________________________________________
Sorry, no snazzy e-mail quotes!!
From: ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:28:39 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

>
>Do u Hindus have the guts to kill people? What happened in 84 was
>a sudden and unexpected attack on the Sikhs.  I bet if there are riots
>again your ugly butts will be no where to be found!.  Its a challenge!
>If u Hindus are really that strong why don't start from Punjab?  HAlf
>u will be dead by the time u come out of Punjab.
>
>*********I AM REALLY SHOCKED AT THAT STATEMENT.  ITS FUCKING TIME NOW
>THAT WE KICK YOUR UGLY BUTT AS WE R DOING IN PUNJAB, MR. KICK UGLY BUTT
>FROM PUNJAB.**************
>
>A statement like that will get a response like that!!!
>
>Harpreet Singh
>  

Every one knows that Sikhs have contributed a lot to India.
A person is not brave or a coward because he is a Hindu
or a Sikh.  84 was a mistake and those people should have
been punished.  But since 1947 it seems that people involved
in roits seem to go scott free. I have never
heard of Hindus and Sikhs being as us and them.

There are some creeps in India like every where else, but
majority of the people look beyond region and religion.
Narshima Rao is the PM of India, he is from the South, under
his leadership congress is regaining it strength in the North
and Manmohan Singh is second in charge as the finance minister.
Both are in a sense a minority.  You may not know it there in
Canada, but most Indians want India to be united, even Sikhs, 
that is why more Sikhs than Hindus get killed in Punjab by terrorists.


Manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Re: Hindu Calendar for November 1992
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:05:17 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Nov06.143347.18288@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
>              HINDU CALENDAR  for November 1992
>  
>
> Hindu Calendar:
>   Hindu calendar consists a cycle of 60years.  Each year year has 12 months,
>   and each month has thirty days. These are fixed on the basis of Moon,
>   (english calendars are based on SUN). In order to take care of extra days,
>   the calndars some time have adhika-masa ( like extra-day  in a leap year).
>   Each month has two fortnights Krishna Paksha (New-Moon fortnight or 
>   dark fortnight) and Shukla Paksha (Full-Moon fortnight or Glowing fortnight).
           The calendar which is shown has the month starting with Shukla
Paksham as it is practice in Telugu speaking areas (and other S. Indian areas)

   This would be Margashirsha Krishna Prathama in UP calendars.
>                                                     Guru Nanak Jayanthi  
> Nov 11       Karthika.Krishna.Padhyami    14.31                            


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: UN MAP SANS KASHMIR
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:10:56 GMT

rkrithiv@pima.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas) writes:


>>> From: v122npej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer A Fazili)
>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
>>> Subject: RE: UN MAP SANS KASHMIR

>>> India is the furthest thing from a secular country. 

>   We have practised secularism for 2000 years. And for bloody
>   hell, don't give us advice of what we are.
                     ^^                ^^
       
>   Also we do not need a certificate from you as to whether we
         ^^                                ^^^               ^^
>   are  secular or not. Personally I care  less as to what you 
                                                            ^^^
>   think of India. And I'm sure many think the same way. 


>   900 million Indians are NOT waiting for your seal of approval: 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                     ^^^^
>   To recognize India as secular. 

>   So hell to what you think of India !!!!!
                    ^^^

>Krithi. 


Glad to see that even die-hard Indians realise that Kashmir and India
are two distinct entities. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) 


-hd
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ibrahim@wam.umd.edu (Ibrahim Shafi)
Subject: Matrimonial
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:14:47 GMT

My name is Priti Chandarwala and I am a 26 year old graduate of Johns Hopkins 
School of Medicine. I am a daughter of a Indian Minister.  I am looking for an
 attractive, atheletic, Indian male in his late twenties, who is interested
in traveling, playing basketball, and likes to read.  I often go back to 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems.urdu,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: cs707ab@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Aftab)
Subject: Re: URDU
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:47:58 GMT

In article <5NOV199214495797@vxcrna.cern.ch> mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.093108.11525@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, cs707ab@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Aftab) writes...

>>Hmm! I guess by this definition there is no such thing as Pakistani cluture,
>>or Indian or Islamic culture ... not that I do not agree with you .... I'm 
>>just wondering which culture do I belong to !  and the rest of 8 million 
>>(?) Karachites!  Any thoughts on that?
>
>	adopt to sindhi language and culture.
>
>Mirza Ilyas

Give me *one* example of a whole society adopting the culture of a minority
(within that society) and I will accept your advice as legitimate and 
practical. Here in Canada, even after 125 years, people are still English, and
French and Italian and .... everything else. But ... the important thing is
that they are Canadians too!  

Read Mr. Tariq Hamid's reply to this post, would be enlightening for you!

Kamran [didn't know one peek at SCP would bring my addiction back] Aftab
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN (Sikh-Hindu Solution at the end of article ;-)
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:00:29 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <BxDFuo.6G5@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Harpreet Singh) writes:

>So according
>to your formula the terrorists have killed 99,500 more people.  Now I 
>think its time for the govt to get even since the number of Hindu's killed
>is way ahead.  


Dear Harpreet Ji, 
Please listen. It is not a question of Hindus versus the Sikhs. The number
of Hindu families in Delhi that stood up for the protection of their Sikh
neighbours during the riots would totally negate your Hindu-vs-Sikh
perspective. Yes, I am from Delhi.

It was a riot instigated by the goons of a political party by hiring
some other goons irrespective of their religions. Yes, these goons,
in Congress and the hired hands, MUST be punished. But the terrorism
in Punjab does not spring from these riots and is a different problem
having its own origins and needs to be addressed on a different
footing altogether.



>    --> For Hindu's any person whose last name is 'Gandhi' is a great person.
>The Congress party wanted to make Sonia Gandhi and then Priyanka Gandhi the
>leader of the party.  That's the limit of stupidity.

If *all Hindus* are such fans of "Gandhis" then what are the religions
of those who voted for Janata, CPI, CPM, BJP, DMK etc. Your perspective
of Hindus-vs-Sikhs is completely misplaced. Please rethink this line
of thinking of yours.


>Harpreet Singh
>hsingh@cayley


---raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: singhk2@lib103.its.rpi.edu (Kirpal S. Singh)
Subject: Re: *WHY INDIAN MEN WATCH PORNO'S?* - ADULTS ONLY
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:15:42 GMT
From: dharam@coyote.WPI.EDU (Dharmendra Khanolkar)
Newsgroups: wpi.students.desis,soc.culture.indian
Subject: The Sacred Thread..........
Date: 11 Nov 1992 22:45:58 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: coyote.wpi.edu



-------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                   JANEYU
                                  ========

 Sacred thread - There is a spiritual system in our body which has many
 important nodes at various points of the body each of which depict 
 something... At the centre of the abdomen just beneath the diaphragm (it is
 an important point even according to today's science..) is the sangam. In the
 system we are talking about, there are 3 channels of flow originating at this
 point - Sat, Raj and Tam - meaning Goodness, Material and Evil. The Tam and
 Raj flow downwards and only the Sat flows upwards. In most of us normal 
 people, the Tam and Raj are active and the Sat is not strong enough to 
 counter act the downward flow.

 The aim of meditation is to make the Sat strong enough to fight the other
 two, resulting in an upward flow spiritually and thus leading to Moksha...
 The Janeyu (sacred thread) depicts these three flows (notice that the Janeyu
 has 3 threads) to remind us of this theory. Again it is unneccessary to wear
 it as long as one remembers the significance of the idea - does not
 mean that one should not wear it but that one need not wear it as long
 as his mind wears it all the time. We can see by all these explanations
 that the sages at that time have explained mind blowing ideas by just
 inventing a material reminder and depiction for common man.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------


	Now the question.

 I understood why there are three threads. but why is there a knot in the three
 threads which ties them together ? Does it mean that we have to have some Raj
 and Tam bound with Sat ? Why do we need to have the Raj and the Tam ? Is it 
 not that we are to try and keep away from these two things as much as 
 possible.... ?????


B4 u decide to flame this article, just take a note about the location of
the origin of this article ??

-- 
Bye now...

--Dhamu
From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: astrology
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:28:29 GMT
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Distribution: world
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From: dhan@cs.arizona.edu (Dhananjay M. Mahajan)

In the BBC Newshour program this morning, an interview of an Indian
astrologer, Mr. Madan of the Illustrated Weekly of India, was aired. Mr
Madan had correctly predicted that Gov. Bill Clinton will be the next
President of the United States and also the reelection of Prime Minister
John Major of UK. He has now predicted that Bill Clinton will be
involved in atleast 3 military operations, one each with Yugoslavia,
Angola and the CIS (former Soviet Union). 


	And he had also predicted a landslide victory for Rajeev Gandhi just
2 weeks before his death.

FFT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: .wpg files on aspects of India
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:23:26 GMT

Hi netters!

This is my second request, in case you missed the first one! I am
looking for picture files on India-related aspects, preferably
in the .wpg format (used by WordPerfect and DrawPerfect) or,
alternatively, in the .gif format. You will have the eternal
gratitude of a 10 year old and a 7 year old, working on misacellaneous
school projects, and of course their father!

Also, I have noticed that both Harvard Graphics and Draw Perfect
do not include India, the second most populous country in the world
(and pakistan and bangladesh, if I remember), in their collection
of maps which includes tiny little "speck" countries. With the
software industry having a fair collection of Indian engineers
and programmers, I find this quite strange. Any netters working
for WP Corp and/or HG care to comment? Other comments from anybody?

Thanks a lot and regards. - Ganesh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: v122npej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer A Fazili)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE:UN MAP SANS KASHMIR
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

It is very unfortunate that civilized, mature, adults cannot discuss events of
history without lowering themselves to base name calling and other acts of
juveniles. I suppose that it serves me right for trying top answer a question
on this group without first checking on the political correctness of my answer. 

Well let me say that I am not surprised by this behavior. It seems as though
that when Indians and any other group try to intelligently converse on this
Kashmir topic, the Indians have a way of changing topics and answering
questions with questions. 

As an American born Kashmiri, it has pained me to see and hear what has become
of the Kashmiri Paradise. And the thoughts of my relations and friends also
come to me as night falls, and I know what is happening to them at every turn.
It is too bad that those of us who are being raised in the civilized parts of
the world cannot show some civility and decency when it comes to other peoples
feelings and regards. Yet again, it is no surprise, as that is exactly the
attitude shown in Kashmir by GOI, and the response as yet has been what could
be expected. 

For all parties concerned, I am hoping that this thing comes to a quick end. I
do not think that anyone, Kashmiris, MUJAHEDDIN, India, or the paramilitary
occupational forces are enjoying this one bit. I know that I am not, no matter
what the subscribers to this group want to believe.

Sareer A. Fazili
From: udumudi@ivy (u v babu srinivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Chinese Girls / or Indian Culture Among Youth
Date: 6 Nov 1992 00:02:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

ashwin.k.philip (aphilip@cbnews.cb.att.com) wrote:
: In article <> kavuri@lips.ecn.purdue.edu (Surya N Kavuri ) writes:
:	
: >    I knew this Chinese American student at Columbia, who was a 
: >  second generation American. He always saw himself apart from other
[..]
: > 
: >    COCONUT.
	
: Once again, I submit that skin color doesn`t dictate the way you 
: act/think.  

may be one of the morals of surya's story is that skin color does
dictate the way others think and act?
							-- srinivas
--
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From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: UN MAP SANS KASHMIR
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 09:53:17 GMT

rkrithiv@pima.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas) writes:


>>> From: v122npej@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sareer A Fazili)
>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
>>> Subject: RE: UN MAP SANS KASHMIR

>>> India is the furthest thing from a secular country. 

>   We have practised secularism for 2000 years. And for bloody
>   hell, don't give us advice of what we are.

>   Also we do not need a certificate from you as to whether we
>   are  secular or not. Personally I care  less as to what you 
>   think of India. And I'm sure many think the same way. 

>   900 million Indians are NOT waiting for your seal of approval: 
>   To recognize India as secular. 

>   So hell to what you think of India !!!!!



INDIA is SECULAR (ONLY ON PAPER). 

BYE
ADIL
*******************************************************************************
AA DIL SE DIL MILA DE, YEH DIL MAIN KYA HAI BATA DUN
*******************************************************************************


>Krithi.
From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: doki don't try
Date: 11 Nov 1992 10:23:34 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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	Thought I'd save 30 secs. for you, perhaps more. Don't try to figure 
out what 's'  means in a subject line. You'll trip all over yourself.:)

FFT
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:36594 soc.culture.indian.telugu:951
From: sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Matrimonial
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:13:23 GMT
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 scbst4+@pitt.edu (Sarita C Bhatt) writes:
>LOOKING FOR A BRIDEGROOM FOR A FRIEND
>Hi,
>	My friend is an interesting, fun-loving woman, 
>settled in US and working at a university. 
>	She is looking for someone who is smart, outgoing
>and "ONE IN A MILLION" person. (Also, he should not be a
>vegetarian or a smoker). 

ok i will quit

suresh
From: jsingh@pacific.csl.uiuc.edu (Jaidip Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Reply: Lahore Capital of Khalistan (Nope!)
Date: 7 Nov 1992 19:16:50 GMT
Organization: Coordinated Science Laboratory, University of Illinois
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In article <1992Nov6.180818.1@opie.bgsu.edu>, mkatyal@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
|> In article <Ry6NTB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol) writes:
|> > A reply to a message written by: ee_ahj@lub001.lamar.edu
|> >  
|> >>WE DO FIND SOME PEOPLE ASKING, "WHAT'S WRONG IN ASKING FOR KHALISTHAN?"
|> >>
|> >>THE ANSWER: NOTHING AT ALL,PROVIDED YOU MANAGE TO FREE ITS HISTORIC
|> >>            CAPITAL,VIZ, LAHORE, FIRST!
|> >>            SO LONG !!!
|> >             
|> >   Nyah the Sikhs who are fighting for Khalistan don't want Lahore, 
|> > we will be happy with New Delhi (besides more of those guilty Hindu and 
|> > Congress(I) members reside there, who in the not so distant future will
|> > be summoned on front of war tribunals for their verdicts on the 
|> > attrocities they have commited - it will save time not having to 
|> > extradite them). :^)  
|> >                              
|> >                                       - GSD
|> > 
|> > Gary Deol              garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
|> Dream on,
|> We Hindu's have kicked your pompous asses before (1984)
|> and I'm sure if you guys don't stop monkeying around
|> (That word aptly describes you Sicks-not a typo)
|> we'll have to do it again.
|> I'm a Punjabi and 'am very proud to be one.Let me see you guys
|> try to take my Punjab away from em!(YEAH).
Shri Katyal Sahib,
                  Please rest assured that not all of us pompous
morons have forgotten 1984. I deeply mourn the deaths of all those people
- not just the Sikhs (I am an atheist myself and 1984 contributed to that).
Under no circumstances would I wish to remain a countryman of a sadist
like yourself who can take delight in the burning alive of people, the
gang-raping of women, the killing of children. You are as big a coward
as any terrorist with an AK-47. If you have any guts try taking on somebody,
not as part of a mob of howling savages armed with gasoline, but one-on-one.
Maybe one day some big trees will fall in your backyard anf the members
of your community will not have consulted you before chopping down the
tree. Please send me a postcard when that happens because nothing
will give me greater pleasure.

Sincerely,
--Jaidip Singh


gibteesro d
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