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From: ktreole@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kathleen Treole)
Subject: Heisman Trophy info
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:18:21 GMT


I don't know if Angelo Bertelli (Heisman, 1943) played for a professional
team...but I did work for him in the liquor store that he owns in my hometown 
of Clifton, New Jersey.  It is aptly named:  Bertelli's

And he has the greatest memorabilia hanging in the store:  autographs from
the Four Horsemen, Knute Rockne...and his nephew is Kelly Trypuka (pro
basketball)...so there is stuff hanging up about him as well.  Anyway,
he was/is a really fun guy...I guess he is the only 'famous' person I can say I
know.

He was the first Heisman winner from Notre Dame.  If you go by the store 
(Bloomfield Ave. in the Styertowne Shopping Center you can see him working 
there just about every day!)

Just some whatever happened to trivia, I guess!
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Auburn News
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:35:34 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Aug20.075824.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>Auburn practices in full gear today (August 20) for the first time this fall.
>Here are a few things that have been in local papers:
>
>- Frazier led the Tigers in rushing last year but redshirt freshman Ted
>Yarbrough was the top running back in spring practice.  Highly regarder
>freshman Roymon Malcolm has been slowed by a hamstring this week.
>
>-- 
>David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 

What?  No word on MEGA-recruit Steve Davis out of Spartanburg, SC?  
RB, 6-2, 217lbs, runs a 4.45?

THIS guy is 'highly regarded' -- right?


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From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: USC Football
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:49:09 GMT

In article <65726@hydra.gatech.EDU>,
mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:

>noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) wrote:
>}
>}                                             And not that this is worth
>}anything, but BGI (Blue & Gold Illustrated - the Notre Dame football
>}propaganda rag) does predict USC to beat the Irish by one this year
>}at USC.
>
>A truly shameless anti-woof if there ever was one. 

You caught me (&BGI).  That was definitely an anti-woof (and one of the
reasons I prefaced it with "not that this is worth anything").  But I just
can't be as sure as you are, Mark, that Notre Dame will win the MNC.  You
can never *count* on ND beating Michigan.  You can never *count* on ND
beating Penn State.  You can never *count* on ND beating USC (even
though they've done it for the past several years).  I do know that
several times in the history of the ND-USC series that an unbeaten ND
(or USC) team has lost to a mediocre USC (or ND) team to lose the MNC.
(However, I find myself without the stats to back this up, and my memory
fails me as to the years that this happened.)  As unsure as I am, however,
if I had to pick a year for ND to put it all together, this would be it.
We'll see soon enough if they can do it.

BTW, Mark wrote:
>noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) wrote:
>}A series with Miami just ended.  
>
>Who ended that series, anyway?   ;->

I saw your smiley, and believe me I was terrified that that thread
would start up again.  Notice how carefully I worded it - so that
no team was "blamed" (which is as it should be).

-Mike Noonan
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Big 8 media poll
Summary: CU edges NU and OU
Reply-To: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:25:16 GMT

Here are the results of this year's Big 8 media poll, the closest ever
in conference history (the poll has been conducted since 1946).  CU's
37% share of first-place votes was the smallest ever, and the first time
no team received a majority of first-place votes.

1. Colorado (34)        639
2. Nebraska (31)        638
3. Oklahoma (26)        619
4. Kansas               443
5. Kansas State         338
6. Missouri             242
7. Iowa State           214
8. Oklahoma State       147
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From: andy@misha.central.sun.com (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Years of eligibility question
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:26:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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>In article <1992Aug12.172804.7959@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.damn.emulator.dieckmann) writes:
>> So, the RU newcomers report and missing from the group
>> is one of their top recruits, Reggie Funderburke of Hyattsville,
>> Md.  It seems Jason had major surgery on his shoulder and will
>> enter school for the start of the second semester.  This begs my
>> question, Is Jason then considered part of the 1993 incoming class
>> and eligible to be redshirted as a freshman next year?
>> Or is he considered medically redshirted for this year,
>> with 4 years of eligibility remaining?

If he qualifies for Prop 42,  this will be a red-shirt year.  If he waits
until next year,  not next semester,  then he will have 5 years to play 
4,  but cannot play in spring practice.  If he is healthy enough for
spring,  he should enroll in Jan & will red-shirt this year.



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From: zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Aggies in the SEC (west)
Keywords: n
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:52:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amoco Production

Anyone here any news lately about the above possibility?  It seems to come
up in the press every couple of months or so, and it has been eerily quiet
as of late.  How many teams are in the SEC west as of now?  Lots of Aggie
bloodlines there...  Curly Hallman (LSU),  Jackie Sherrill (MSU),  
Gene Stallings (Bama).  I believe Gene was the only one to go to school 
here, but the rest definitely left their marks.  Could make for some
very nasty rivalries if A&M was to go that way.  :-)

cmuck
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: More Apple Cup stuff!!
Date: 16 Aug 92 04:02:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera) wrote:
}
}Net-quiz:    What rivalry is the Governor's Cup?  (Excuse me if I misnamed
}it - it might be the Governor's trophy).  

Kansas-Kansas State, Florida-Florida State, and Colorado-Colorado State.

}                                          First correct reply gets a 
}free Coke or LoneStar at Valhalla if you ever visit this wonderful city ....

I'll be expecting one of each.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
        "... and we tell ourselves that what we found 
                   was what we meant to find."
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Years of eligibility question
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:12:40 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

In article <1992Aug12.172804.7959@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>
>So, the RU newcomers report and missing from the group
>is one of their top recruits, Reggie Funderburke of Hyattsville,
>Md.  It seems Jason had major surgery on his shoulder and will
>enter school for the start of the second semester.  This begs my
>question, Is Jason then considered part of the 1993 incoming class
>and eligible to be redshirted as a freshman next year?
>Or is he considered medically redshirted for this year,
>with 4 years of eligibility remaining?
 
Eligibility expires upon completion of either four years of competition
or five calendar years, whichever occurs first.  The five-calendar-year
clock begins to tick when the student-athlete attends his first day of
classes as a registered full-time student.  Assuming the second semester
begins after the 1st of the year, this guy will be able to redshirt next
season (1993) and still have 4 years of football eligibility remaining
after that.
 
Also keep in mind that, beginning this year, there is a limit of 25
first-time scholarships (called "initial counters") that can be awarded
in any one year.  Any student-athelete recruited by an institution who
enters subsequent to the fall term and goes on scholarship immediately
is an initial counter for either the current academic year (if the
institution's annual limit has not been reached) or the next academic
year.  If the guy had been able to start in the fall, RU would have been
required to count him against this year's limit.  This would seem to
provide RU with added flexibility (e.g. "maybe we can bring in that
juco kid this year and let that injured kid's scholarship count against
next year's initial counter limit").
 
This looks like a win-win situation for both the athlete (ignoring his
injury) and RU.
 
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Demt. DuBose (sp?) playing
Keywords: Holtz, sit out
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 14:41:35 GMT

In article <66489@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>
>Of course he'll play.  Remember last year when two Notre Dame players, I
>think they were Mirer and some defensive guy, were arrested at a party.
>What was the announcement from Lou Holtz?  Were they to sit out a game, or
>miss a half?  No, he announced that they were to start the next game as
>planned.  

Well, you're wrong, unless the NCAA gives a ruling in DuBose's favor.
Notre Dame has declared DuBose ineligible, awaiting a ruling from the
appropriate NCAA committee.

Concerning the incident last year, there's widespread feelings that the
arrest was not especially fair.  Mirer and the other player were at a
large party.  The police were called, because the party got too loud.
Mirer, who was not in any way behaving in an obstreperous manner, 
complained to a policeman who was rounding up partygoers for what seemed
like nothing.  For the heinous crime of suggesting that a policeman might
be overreacting, the policeman arrested him.  Mirer had a cup of beer,
at the time - as, no doubt, did several dozen others who weren't arrested.
Mirer is and was very well known in the South Bend area, so the policeman
knew who he was singling out for arrest.

In the past, Holtz has been known to suspend important players before the 
USC game and before bowl games for infractions.  I suspect that his call
on the Mirer issue was that Mirer really hadn't done much wrong and
didn't deserve a suspension.  (Some of the South Bend police department
agreed, by the way.)

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		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Which would you choose??
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:20:10 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson) writes:
>Cliff writes:
>
>>Why Mr. Swanger, that would be Washington State, of course.  The Husky 
>>Cougar battles in the Apple Cup are legends around these parts, but I suppose
>>that the Apple Cup is a poor victim of the vicious ECMB.
>
>Well, I for one would like to know more about it.  I would guess that
>UW would hold a significant advantage, or does the fact that it is a
>state rivalry make the series more even?
>
Don't ask me for the statistics, cause I don't have 'em.  I would guess that
the Huskies hold about a 2-1 advantage all time.

>Do both schools get up for the game?  Is the rivalry pretty much 2-way?
>
Absolutely.  The game is always a sellout, either in Pullman or Seattle.
The last couple of decades have been dominated by the Huskies, I believe,
but the Cougars seem to win games that knock the Huskies out of Rose Bowl
bids.

>I suppose the absence of the WSU fans on the net has kept this
>"apple cup" pretty quiet.
>
With regards to the net, you are correct--Dave Bakken (sp??) at grad school
in Arizona is the only one I have run across.  Nationally speaking, the game
is rarely televised since ABC almost always picks up USC vs. UCLA for their
Pac Ten telecast on rivalry weekend.  Last year was the notable exception 
of broadcasting the Big Game (Stanfurd v. Kal).  The other big northern
Pac Ten game of Oregon v. Oregon St. in "The Civil War" is also pretty
intense, but since both teams are often poor, nobody outside of Oregon
gives much of a d*mn.

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University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hotel to stay at for Sept 12 Mich @ ND Game
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:13:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Ohio State University

Last time i went to ND for a game, I pulled off the Indiana Toll Road at some 
arbitrary place close to South bend and drove until I found a Mom 'n' Pop 
motel.  I swear to God I found the Bates Motel just over the border into 
Michigan!  Anyhow, they had one room left, so I zonked out for the night.

     - Pat
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Hotel to stay at for Sept 12 Mich @ ND Game
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:01:17 GMT

Tom Hamilton writes:

>>I swear to God I found the Bates Motel just over the boarder into
>>Michigan!

>But did you take a shower? : )

Yes.  and there was this funny wig sitting on the sink.  It wasn't mine, so I 
flushed it down the toilet.

Funny thing about that trip.  Immediately before the game, I was offered $300 a
ticket for my two seats (This was the 1990 Miami @ ND game.)  I almost sold 
them, but then I realized that I went to the Bend to see a football game, so I 
went to see it.  I'd have gone back looking for that wig had Miami won!

     - Pat
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From: train09@meaddata.com (Training ID9)
Subject: Re: The Wack attack
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:08:49 GMT

In a previous message it was written that

>Now that Minnesota has new coach Jim Wacker promising
>to "air" it out in the Metrodome, Golden Gopher fans
>(both of us ;^) ) are excited about their chances this year.
>Here is a biased pre-season prediction.
>(What ? No Northwestern this year ? Oh well, at least we're
>still playing Purdue ;^) )
>
>
>   9/26   Pittsburgh     (away game)
>Close loss last year, will win this year.

Pitt will beat Minnesota by two touchdowns.  They might have stood a chance if the game was at Minnesota, but it isn't and they don't.  GO PITT!
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl Records
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:42:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <1992Aug20.123433.1@max.u.washington.edu> daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu writes:
}}
}} BEST % (Five or more Bowl Appearances)
}}
}} Toledo 87.5%
}} Purdue 80%

What is this, some sick joke I don't get?  Purdue?

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             If I don't want it in my back yard, I don't want it.
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From: garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:27:41 GMT

In article <10313@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
>J.J.Clyde writes
>
>+ So STAND up for your schedule cmuck, and I'll see you Sept 5!!!!!!!!!
>
>Let us have a Cardinal for dinner, first. Did I say "for" dinner? I meant
>AS dinner. Then we can have a tiger for a lite snack.

Did you mean "for" a lite snack, or AS a lite snack?

- goober (make sure we leave room for a steak or two) smith
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From: hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel)
Subject: 1993 Michigan Schedule??
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 13:47:20 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa



Could somebody post the 1993 Michigan Football schedule?
If you could post the 1994, 1995, ... schedule to that
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Haj
.

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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Net Trash on Bama & Miss. St.
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:20:15 GMT

mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:


>>>> From Jason.
>>>>                          Trivia Contest
>>>>
>>>>What major football University have the most athletes arrests?  

>    Couldn't be Miami.  Their football players and students are models of
>discipline and self-control.  Oh, you said "major"?  Sorry.

Miami gets every problem amplified.  The same is true on ND. The rules are
different for Miami and ND.  If a player gets a parking ticket, someone would
want the player suspeneded for it.  Last year Miami got 30-60 threads on
Patton over the fradulent use of a credit card.  Arizona State Sun-Devils
has two players that did the same thing not one word about it on r.s.f.c.
This is not about discipline.  This is about hurting a team, so someone can
beat them.  



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Aug. 9, 1992.

Arizona State Sun Devils players QB Grady Benton and WR Derrick Land
pleaded no contest to stealing a credit card and fraudulent use of the
stolen credit card.  The card was stolen from a female student and the 
two players used it to charge $175 worth of merchandise at a mall.

Each player received three year probation from the court.  Sun Devils coach 
Bruce Snyder really hammered the two players.  The Coach will make the two
players sit out the Sept. 5 season-operner against Washington.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------



Patton was told he would never play at Miami again, so he transfered to
Texas A&I.    No one Texas A&I cares that he was a bad boy.  This is only 
a problem if a guy is bad on a good team.  Sun Devils make them set out
one game. 


>>> So...what's your point here. These are athletes not saints.....

>    Don't cloud the issue with facts!

What is the fact Guy.  You didn't like the fact that I posted some problems
on your Bama team. Now that's the fact.  Well it's a every day thing if Bama
ever gets back to the Dynasty days.  It's not what you do, it's how good you
are.

>    All he was doing is all that he is always doing.  Trying to
>muddy the issue and shift negative attention away from Miami.  Kinda
>like a bunch of kids saying, "Oh yeah, well look at what so and so
>did.  I'm not so bad after all."

True. Just like your are shifting off Bama and back to Miami.  
This is the way we row, we row, this is the way we row.

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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: USC Football
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:47:02 GMT


Hmm, ya' know what...I think the University of $outhern Califonia has a
99.7% chance of winning the MNC this year.

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University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: aTm over Stanford, ?, !!!!
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:29:09 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <l8nt8uINNa2l@male.EBay.Sun.COM> rossm@orcrist.EBay.Sun.COM writes:

> >I welcome an Aggies victory over Stanford. I predict the Aggies win 
> >  by a score 35:17. What do you think?
> 
> I predict that the Aggies will spend the whole game bumping into each other
> trying to figure out where Stanford's receivers are coming from. Anyone who
> saw the Okies play the Elway teams will know what I'm talking about.
> Ross McCammon- Native Northern Californian and Quasi Stanford fan

  Let the woofing begin!!!  Seriously though, despite the loss of Kevin Smith,
the Ags still have a very good secondary, and have survived all but one en-
counter with the Run-and-Shoot.  I do not believe this will be the game-winner
for Stanford.  I think the ability to presure the QB will be more likely to
give them their shot at the win.

  How is the Stanford run defense?  The Aggie rushing offense is a major
strong point.

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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