HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey J. Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3 (Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse)
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:03:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Apr13.170309.6909
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Apr13.132634.10491@cs.yale.edu>
horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:

>Certainly.  These "d-fighters" deliberately provoked a violent response
>from the Chinese government three years ago so that they could get their
>_xue4 ran2 de lyu4 ka3_.  They'd do it again if they had the chance.

	So you're saying they asked to be shot in cold blood? :(
Do you really blame the peaceful student demonstrators or are you 
so disillusioned with the "wonderful" government of China? (Brainwashed)

							Mikeey
					    mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu


>					--Scott

>-- 
>Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
>horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
>203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
>Shao2shan1 sheng1 de tai4yang2 yong3 bu2 luo4!
From: jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Han4 Gong1 Qiu1 Yue4 (was Re: Pi2 Pa2)
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:32:10 GMT


In <199204092205.AA01956@thames.bu.edu>, lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
writes:

>James wrote:
>>I guess Lix got
>>mixed up with "Pi1" and "Buo1". I wonder whether this has anything
>>to do with his Sichuan accent. :-)
>
>James, watch out:-) I occasionaly bother to check reference:-)

You know, a Chinese proverb says that real gold will not be
burned by fire. :-)  Well, actually, I miss those good old days
when Raymond Luh was always around to cite references for us.

>>Somehow Pipa always reminds me of this ancient Chinese beauty
>>"Wang2 Zhao1 Jun1". In the paintings, she was often riding a horse
>>with a pipa in her arms (Yiu2 Bao4 Pi2 Pa1 Ban4 Zhe1 Mian4).
>
>Wrong. Ms. Wang volunteered to be peace-maker. She did not need to
>Ban4 Zhe1 Mian4.

Well, it is not because Wang felt ashamed, but because she was
shy. After all, she was going to be a bride (Xiu1 Da1 Da1 De0
Xin1 Niang2 Zi0). :-)  Some people suspect that after the Han
emperor found out that Wang was a beauty, he slept with her (Lin2
Xing4). :-)
From: lu@cs.purdue.EDU (Lu Tian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking For Friend
Keywords: Friend
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:19:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ector.18418
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

Hi,there,

  I accidently lost my cousin's phone number after his moving.  He is a Ph.D 
student in University of Wisconsin,Madison. His major is management,I think. 

  Name: Qiren Li.
  He came U.S.A. in 1988, from Beijing.

  Please send me a mail if you know his information.

  Thanks a lot,

  Lutian
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From: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Info on small private business in China
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:40:05 GMT
Reply-To: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Organization: North Carolina State University

>  I am tentitively forming a idea of running a small(very small) 
>business in China. Specially, my idea is that I invest the money, and my
>brothers in my hometown area act as business managers. And then we hire
>one or two people as workers.
>  I will appriciate your remarks on the following matters. This could help me 
>make up or reshape my final decision.  I hope this is not a misuse of the net. 
>It is a topic well worth discussion.
>	Issues:
>	  Is this just fissible?
>	  government rules on renting a house or site;

          No rule 

>	  government rules on tax;

          Goverment will go to your home to grab tax.
 
>	  government attitude toward me (J-1 to F1, no political backdoor
>	    relations)

          You are a bad guy

>	  U.S. government rules on F-1 students investing in my homeland;

          No rule

>	  U.S. government rules on teh investment tax;

          Why you want to consider U.S. goverment when you are doing business
at China.

>	  where do I go to get permission, what is the processure;

          Bring three bottles of Maotai and a set of color TV  or $500 to 
the people in Industrial & Commerical Administration to get permission.  

>	  Issues you think important but not mentioned above.
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhao@adx.adelphi.edu (Bin Zhao)
Subject: test
Organization: Adelphi University
Distribution: adx
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:06:15 GMT

testing.

-- 
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   Bin Zhao,  UNIX System Administrator, Computer Center, Adelphi University
   Garden City, NY 11530                  <zhao@adelphi.edu>  (516) 877-3343  
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: xu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Hao Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse (Re: 6.4, green card, freedom...)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:41:15 GMT
Reply-To: xu@toadflax.UUCP (Hao Xu)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <29E95C2C.12268@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
>
>	Third, I have tried to get a green card for myself thru 6.4 blood.

No further question asked, Shannon. You have confessed you are just another
6/4 blood sucker.

Hao
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yzg9890@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (just call me joe )
Subject: Re: Train from Shanghai to Nanjing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:23:48 GMT

ghe@physics.orst.edu (Guangliang He) writes:

>In article <1992Apr15.191751.12006@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, yzg9890@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (just call me joe ) writes:
>|> jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>|>  
>|> >3.  Is the route generally crowded (how long might I have to sleep in the 
>|> >train station)?
>|> 
>|>      Very very very crowded!  If I were you, I would take the bus or cab. It
>|>      only takes 2 to 3 hours.
>|> 
>It is almost 200 milds between Nanjing and Shanghai. There is no way you
>can get from one to the other by bus or cab or train.

	 There sure is way to do it. I did it when I was in china, and it took
	 me less than 3 hours. (Trust me, it was only a truck, not a car)
From: yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: cedit23
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:48:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Thanks for xcchen@iastat.edu to point out a bug in cedit23.zip which will
not let you enter a few characters like xiao1 as in yuan2 xiao1. I fixed
the bug and will upload to simtel20 archive site shortly.

To make it less confusing, I'll call it CEDIT24.ZIP. I also added support
for all major graphics cards like CGA, Hercules. I hope to add something
for printing before I upload - just a quick note. I am the author of the
CEDIT - a free Chinese word processor.

-- 
/* Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh PA.  412-624-0134
/* open your window and get something fresh */
From: KH@disuns2.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Nationals Came Before 4/1/90 Wi
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:55:56 GMT
Organization: EPFL

40,000 CSSs is a great treature to China.
Suppose an average University has 2,000 profs, staffs

40,000 / 2,000 = 20 Universities. 
Most CSSs are around their 30's. That's a golden age for work.

40,000 CSSs are more important to China that to US.
If US want to hinder China's reform: hold you CSSs.
If US want to help China's reform: let you go.
See what US is goning to do.

It is normal that CSSs want to stay. (Ren2 Wang3 Gao1 Chu4 Zou3)
China wants CSSs back.
US wants to play with them(China and CSSs). 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!The card is in US's hand.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KF-HUA
From: yding@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: SCC Unsolved Mystery.
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:45:24 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr12.101235.792@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>
>By the way, does anyone know if that student leader has forgiven his
>sister? I heard he has been released from prison.
>
>What is his name? I forget his name.

Xiao li, besides sense of humor, I think that you also got some passion.
But why you are so fond of collecting the 'little facts' like personal
names. I remember you said that you are an amateur d-fighter. Well, stand
high and see far.

-- 
/* Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh PA.  412-624-0134
/* open your window and get something fresh */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: deng@bnl.gov (dp)
Subject: Re: Olympic games in Beijing
Organization: ().:.()
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:29:22

>>>>> In article <1992Apr4.182657.11528@cco.caltech.edu>
>>>>> "Zhaohong" == Zhaohong Li <lzh@cco.caltech.edu> writes:
...
  Zhaohong> 	I haven't seen much discussion of this issue on the net.
  Zhaohong> I am sure there are many knowledgeble overseas Chinese on this
  Zhaohong> issue. I would like to see their opinions on the various aspects
  Zhaohong> of hosting the Olympic Games in Beijing in year 2000.

NYT reported that China could spend 1 billion dollars if it hosts OG in the
year of 2k. Please go back to last Friday's NYT sport section for details.

dp
From: tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Train from Shanghai to Nanjing
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:33:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis / LLNL

In article <1992Apr16.193348.12508@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> yzg9890@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (just call me joe ) writes:
->tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov writes:
->
->>It seems like domestic air carrier is notorious for some reason.  But I
->>took it once.  Sure the plane was small, airport was smaller than a bus
->>terminal in US, and the worse part is that service was bad.  However,
->>I don't expect service to be good at train stations either. 
->
->   You are absolutely right!
->
->>So can anyone tell me what's so bad about taking domestic air carrier as
->>opposed to taking trains?
->
->   Nervous! For several times, I was told to write down what I need to
->   say to my family when I was on the china domestic air. I don't think
->   you need to do the same thing in the train or bus.

Why nervous? Does anyone have any statistics on plane crash rates?

--
Terry Cheung
tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Going back China during summer season
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:08:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <5345@pdxgate.UUCP> wangs@chip.cs.pdx.edu () writes:
>
>I try to get a good price on the air ticket. I have  called
>several travel agents.So far, the best price I can get is $970 plus $18 
>tax for round trip for west coast of US and Shanghai. 
>
>Dose anybody has sources (travel agent or whatever) to get better deal?
>
I have looked into this subject for a while and found that the distance
between US west coast to Shanghai, Hong Kong and Taipei, three air ways
are not significant. The AD on Chinese newspaper shows that the air fare
to Hong Kong and Taipei are the same, around 660 to 700 U$. But it is
$950 to Shanghai and additional $50 to Beijing.

In case in the high season, summer, the cost will be more than the above.
But if people are willing to stop in Tokyo to change flight, it may be
cheaper. I guess there is no other choice, go or nogo.
From: jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Pi2 Pa2 (was Re: The Reture of Evil)
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:22:58 GMT


In <1992Apr6.000817.17977@cs.yale.edu>, horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
writes:

>In article <199204051458.AA01205@thames.bu.edu>, lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU writes:
><mvdvalk@cs.vu.nl (Valk v/d M) wrote (to Scott):
><
><>BTW, on sci.lang you said that pi2pa1 is an example of a word in which the
><<constituent characters have no meaning when used separately. I thought pi2 and
><<pa1 were two different musical instruments.
><
><Hmmm... I think Pi2 and Pa1 were two basic finger-movements when playing
><the instrument. But later they lost their independent meaning.
>
>Well, I checked my big dictionaries; and while Wieger does indeed claim that
>_pi2_ and _pa_ were two different instruments, I have not turned up a single
>instance of _pi2_ not followed by _pa_ (or of _pa_ not preceded by _pi2_).
>Every source I've checked claims that the syllables have no meanings of their
>own.

Pi2 and Pa2 were indeed two different ancient Chinese musical
instruments. The name has somehow evolved into the current
meaning. Another example is "Suo3 Na4" (trumpet). Suo3 and Na4
used to mean two different musical instruments. I guess Lix got
mixed up with "Pi1" and "Buo1". I wonder whether this has anything
to do with his Sichuan accent. :-) Talking about finger
movements, there were also these techniques called "Tan2", "Sao3"
and "lun2".

Somehow Pipa always reminds me of this ancient Chinese beauty
"Wang2 Zhao1 Jun1". In the paintings, she was often riding a horse
with a pipa in her arms (Yiu2 Bao4 Pi2 Pa1 Ban4 Zhe1 Mian4).
From: fengzou@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Feng Zou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: THE LIER SHOULD BE PUNISHED(KILLED OR WHATEVER PROPER)
Date: 9 Apr 1992 17:53:27 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: lier, punished

   We  chinese who came before 4/11/90  are very sensitive about the
final result of President Bush' special order. Those who(Xiao Li etc)
intended to fool all these students should check if he is a humane being
or beasts like Tiananmen Square killers. Chinese are characterized
by their honest. Those who lie publicly today could be a potential
killer tomorrow or be punished by their behavor later. No wonder
people call Xiao Li a son of Li Peng ------- they are from the same
killing family. Be careful when you liers are lying!

Feng ZOU
From: yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: shannon yeh and 6.4 and 10.1 mantou
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:14:54 GMT

pk99nom@pga.ts.com (Pal K.) wrote:


+In article <13APR199218103702@oregon.uoregon.edu> xjohn@oregon.uoregon.edu (X Johnson) writes:
+>established the new China, or the Korean war, the war against
+>viet nam?  I think by the time the Viet Nam war was going on, you
+>were old enough to be a soldier, did you apply to join the PLA
+>then?  How many drops of blood did you shed?  If zero, then what
+>did you use as an excuse to be a chinese citizen, consuming a lot
+>of precious food, water, and air?  The passport you have in your
+>hand is red, isn't it?  I call it the "10.1" passport.  Since you
+>call the 6.4 gong1 ka3 the "blood mantou", how about calling your
+>passport "hong2 shao1 rou4 (no pun implied, Scott)?"
+>     Regarding your so-called 4-big freedom, it is not a very
+>good ti3 xi4, as I pointed out many times.  Briefly, it is a
+>capitalist prostitute wearing a pair of communist pants.  I
+>couldn't believe after all this time you are still insisting on
+>your "fan3 dong4 zhu3 zhang1."  
+>     And if you keep following Scott, you will slip along the
+>"cuo4 wu4 dao4 lu4" farther and farther.  I sincerely hope you
+>correct the mistakes and come back to the people's camp.  You
+>need not to be ashamed of what you have done, remember: "The
+>party's door is alway open" and "ai4 guo2 bu4 fen1 xian1 hou4."
+>
+>xjohn   
+>
+
+If my memory serves me right, this Shannon Yeh
+once claimed himself a rich man while laughed at other CSS for

	Unfortunately, your memory is a dummy one.  I have never 
	claimed this on SCC.  However, regardless i am richer
	or poorer than you, i won't eat "human blood bread".

+not being able to make as much money as he did in US. And now
+he turned to accuse CSS for being money oriented. A hypocrite
+is a hypocrite. I would be much more impressed if he posts
+a plan for his returning to China PERMANENTLY, not just a business
+visit, to promote his so called four big freedom in China.

	You got to sign out of my team first, i.e., when i obtain
	these 4 big freedoms, everyone can use them except you.

+While many of critics to some Chinese students' selfishness and
+hypocrisy have the justifiable ground, this guy and Ass "I-drank-
+too-much-scotch" Horne are the last two who are eligible to
+do this.

	Because you dummy put your eyes on the top of your head or
	put your eyes in your KuDang.

+Hypocrites are hypocrites.

	Dummy is dummy.  Stupid is stupid.  Nothing is nothing.

shannon
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yzg9890@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (joe )
Subject: Re: 6.4 red card is blood abuse (Re: 6.4, green card, freedom...)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:34:40 GMT

horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:


>Chai Ling certainly did.  Why else would she suddenly flee after telling
>everyone else to stay?

  So, she should have been killed?
From: xu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Hao Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 6.4, green card, freedom, money, et al.
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:38:31 GMT
Reply-To: xu@toadflax.UUCP (Hao Xu)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <29E7598A.1802@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
>
>	Be strong, man!  If you like to label yourself as a democracy FiGhtEr,
>  	don't run away!!  Stay over there and change it to whatever you prefer!
>	
>	From the strategy point of view, you should be able to protect yourself
>  	if you want to make something happen.  Seeking protection from a third
> 	party does not help your pursuance at all.

Shannon, it is long since you sold your 4 big freedom. Where is it now?
Since you advocate 4 big freedom in China, why don't you try to carry it out
in China? Why only advocate it in the States? Oh, I see, you need to protect
yourself. May I ask which party is now protecting your freedom of speech?
Third or fourth or fifth? Isn't it hypocratic?

>	Furthermore, Scott Horne's good doing does not reflect your bad doing, 
>	and vice versa.

Key word: vice versa. Should read as: doc is doing good, Scott is doing bad.

>	2.  I myself had been excercising my freedom of speech in Beijing for
>	    years and they never "simply arrest" me.  But I want to tell you, 
>	    some FUCKED-UP professors at my university (in Beijing) tried to 
>	    screw me very hard.  	

Academically?

>+    I deny chinese people owing anything to CCP!
>
>	Stick with the point!!  We are not generally talking about Chinese 
>	people but Chinese Students and/or Scholars!!

Shannon, don't tell me CSS are not Chinese, do you? Why do you use double
standard while dealing with CCP and CSS?

>+   A fundamental question: Who killed those demonstrated in TAM? Who?
>+Chinese students here? or CCP in Beijing? Is CCP ( by the way donkey
>+Scott always apologizes for ) order the killing of thousands in 1989?
>
>	You students caused the killing!! You did not give them any additional
>	choice!

Shannon, I really feel I have no additional choice after you said this. May
I kill you?

Hao
From: kniaz@cat6.cs.wisc.edu (Joel Kniaz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Forward for Mr. Anonymous: Sino-Japanese War
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:40:12 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


	This is not 'Jeopardy.'  If you have some good points (and
	it seems that you do), just state them. 

     ______________________________________________________________________
    / "Lo, Though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death,       /
    \    I fear not!                                        ______________\
    /  For I am the biggest son-of-a-bitch in the valley." / My favorite  /
    \______________________________________________________\ expression...\
    / Joel Kniaz   kniaz@garfield.cs.wisc.edu  kniaz@jomby /      __i     /
    \______________________________________________________\_yiLballe(Mu)_\
From: ghe@physics.orst.edu (Guangliang He)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Mr. Yan Xin(A Qi-gong expert)
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:00:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Apr08.200041.7296
Reply-To: ghe@physics.orst.edu
Distribution: soc.culture.china
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Oregon State University

In article <29E3343F.29887@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, feng@meroot.eng.uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes:
|> Mr. Yan Xin(Family name Yan) is a well-known expert on Chinese Qi-gong.
|> He is currently visiting the U.S., giving lectures or so.
|> I have a friend who would like to seek advice from him.
|> If anybody knows where Mr. Yan is in the US,
|> please send e-mail to 
|> 
|> fliu@uci.edu
|> 
|> Thank you

No need for email. Tell your friend to CONCENTRATE, CONCENTRATE, and 
CONCENTRATE. Yan Xin will pass the message to him by his Qi.

-- 
Guangliang He
ghe@physics.orst.edu
From: liuc@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Chia-Liang Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Hsia Li (Xia Li) was : Chinese Calendar
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:38:18 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering

First of all, thank Harry for providing us the information on
Hsia (Xia) Li from _Encyclopaedia Britannica_.

Harry writes

>From _Encyclopaedia Britannica_:

>"The 24 points within the meteorological cycle coincide with points
>15 [degree] apart on the ecliptic (the plane of the Earth's yearly
 ^^^^^^^^^^^

I am very glad that my 'guess' is correct.

>journey around the Sun, ...). It takes about 15.2 days for the Sun
                                        ^^^^^
More precisely, _in average_. As I mentioned, it can be as short as
14+ days and as long as 17- days. It depends on how far the Earth is
from the Sun.
					
>to travel from one of these points to another, ...


-- 
Ka-Leung Lau ( Chia-Liang Liu )
Digital Communications Research Laboratory
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering 
University of California, Davis (Cal Aggies)
From: xiao@TRAMP.COLORADO.EDU (XIAO YANG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: People's Representative? (Re: China & HK News
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:56:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: tramp.199204081656.AA00977
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr8.011713.17691@ulowell.ulowell.edu> Shi write:
>In article <1992Apr8.002312.13148@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>
>>>>>Sichuan Governor Mr Zhang Haoruo, who voted
>>>>>for the project, said he supported the plan although the
>>>>>majority of Sichuanese were against the project.
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is there a poll ?


I am sure there is no such a poll. However from the deep feeling 
of many people in Sichuan they are again the building of the dam.
Reason is extremely simple, Sichuanese cann't get single bennefit 
from it. It will not stop the blood upstream. Power stations to be built 
in upstream(Jing1 Sha1 Jiang1 et al.) can cover that from TGD with 
possible less investment and short time. So many historical site will
be under the water and you will not see it forever. Beauty Wang Zhaojun's
hometown, Ba1 Gua4 zhen4 by Zhu1 Ge1Liang4, temple of Zhang1 Fei1 and
phost city in Feng1 Du1 County et al. 

A dam can be built there is wrong assumption from its very beginning.
An untrue assumption cann't be proven is a basic knowledge for a     
mathmatician or physicist. However some engineerers and all politicians
do not know that even after 30+ years pseudo-scientific fexibility
research. 

>>Is this "little way news" (Xiao3 Dao4 Xiao1 Xi1) ?
>>If the story is true , the govenor is probably a bad politician ,
>>but a honest person .
>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Is this the Sichuan people's representive?
 
Definitely not.
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