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From: vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: It's coming out WHEN?!?
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:23:26 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1ar1ccINNel1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa719@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stan M. Mangrum) writes:
>
>My brother saw a commercial on Fox today saying the first episode
>would be shown this upcoming Saturday, October 10th. Our local
>tv guide concurs. (10am)

Well, the Atlanta TV Guide DOESN'T list the X-Men cartoon as starting this
Saturday.  A guy at a comic store down here said that he heard that it 
stard on October 24th.  I'll call the station and talk to a more reliable
comic dude and see what i can find out...

JRjr

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through the heart peace can be found.  That's where you start, not all 
around...'  Extreme -- Rest In Peace
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From: mobey@arrods.enet.dec.com (arrods::mobey)
Subject: this help
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:05:58 GMT
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

>12.  Whatever happened to Magneto's first daughter?  Magda or Anna (I forget
>what she was called). He mentioned her only once back when Peitro and Wanda
>were discovering their pasts.  It was speculated that Lorna Dane was Magneto's
>daughter based on her powers, but this was suppoedly not true later.  Which
>brings me to:
>14.  Someone else mentioned this too.  Whatever happened to Magik's sword
>which was last seen stuck in the ground outside Excalibur's Lighthouse after
>the Inferno saga ended.
    
    re 12: Classic X-men ithink dealt with this
    re 14: Excalibur Promethiuym exchange ? i thnk thats the title
          its still in limbe with ... wotsit...
    
    
    Gary M
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Attention, r.a.c.x.'ers
Keywords: Keep it down, folks!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:14:16 GMT

In article <lewandow.717908786@cs.wisc.edu> lewandow@floss.cs.wisc.edu (Gary Lewandowski [TSoD]) writes:
>
>Remember that some people are using slow modems, so all the extra text
>gets very tiring.

well, if you give up X-Force for about 15 years, you'll save enough
money to pay for a v32 modem... :)
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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SilverFang Ahroun)
Subject: Re: X-cutioner's Song
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:29:54 GMT

visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

>In <1992Oct1.120358.1@vax1.umkc.edu> cbjuland@vax1.umkc.edu writes:



>	On the x-factor book, I can't figure out if the problem was Jae Lee
>or a horrible job of inking (i.e. over-inked beyond all sense).  

I'd tend to say it's Jae Lee, as the X-Factor looked very much like Namor 
has over the summer. While the use of blackspace works in that title,
I'd have to say it makes X-Factor look like a mudpuddle. That and making
Warpath look like Namor in funny clothes.

Axly

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From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Subject: Re: NCCS & RS
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:10:07 GMT

In article <1apjhiINN6oq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bd112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig H. Rettig) writes:

: Remember that Rachel is from one of the many "Alternate" X-Men
: futures.  Which brings up another question, How many of these
: are there now?

Isn't that a bit obvious ? As many as they can get selling stories out
of !!

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From: merricb@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (The ELF)
Subject: Re: Shatterstar Dead...not quite
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:53:49 GMT

jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Hamilton Slye) writes:


>>BTW, I haven't read an x-title for about two years, but have picked them up
>>again for X-cutioner's Story.  Can somebody tell me who Shatterstar is
>and what
>>his mutant power is?

>Hmmmm...let's see if I can recall this right...

>Wasn't it hinted at in X-Men recently that Shatterstar is Longshot &
>Dazzler's son? He was raised to be a gladiator in the Mojoverse but
>somehow got stuck on our world. He has been running around with X-Force
>since NM #99, I believe. (I never read NM so I'm not sure.)

At the end of the latest Mojo story in X-Men, you have Dazzler saying to
Longshot, "Shatterstar? You're joking!", or something similar. It seems
one or two plot threads are being tied up (to say nothing of Excalibur!).

Also, in the last set of X-annuals (Shattershot), Spiral (where is she?) 
says the son of a human & a Mojo-world inhabitant will be named Shatterstar...
...and something else which I've forgotten. [Note that the writer of the
Shattershot was Fabian Nicezia :-]

>As for mutant power...I'm not real sure...he's really good with those
>two double bladed swords he has (gotta love'em), other than being a
>really good fighter, I don't believe he has any special powers.

Shatterstar's energy projection (sound like anyone we know?) has been
forgotten with many other powers (Cable's TK - although that's come back
recently) during the X-Force issues. It seems that the writers' aren't
too good at continuity. (but that ain't anything new.)

Hope I've been of help.
The ELF

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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Blackbirds in a Pie... (Was: Re: Mutant Review -- X-Force #16)
Keywords: Eat well, stay healthy.
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:30:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20822
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>>I think its because the X men have more than one blackbird, although I
>>don't know for sure.
>
>Someone else told me this via e-mail (I believe the original poster of the
>article I ragged on... sorry about that!)... only, I don't remember where
>it was mentioned that they HAD two SR-71s!  (I was assuming that the craft
>in west Texas was an X-Factor vehicle... )

If the X-Men have two SR-71's, they must have just bought their new one when
the Federal Gummint decommisioned all of theirs. The original X-Men Blackbird
was stolen by Nightcrawler in Excalibur, and then stolen back by Professor
Xavier right before the Muir Island Slumber.

We have since seen it mainly with Forge working on it... really dumb idea,
having a guy who doesn't consciously know what he's doing mechanically give
your plane a tune-up, so if somebody else is forced to fix it (after a fight,
say), they'd try to call Forge up to get some hints, and I he could say was
"I dunno. Just try kicking it. Worked for me."

But anyway...

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For Kate is a jealous God, and requires sacrifice./What was your question?--K
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Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 11:00:39 EDT
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Time Travel
 <92264.194854EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> <23SEP92.13212071.0089@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
 <92267.174836EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> <18507.2ac1ceb7@ecs.umass.edu>
 <92268.212151EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> <18544.2ac4766b@ecs.umass.edu>

In article <18544.2ac4766b@ecs.umass.edu>, masulliv@ecs.umass.edu (Michael
Sullivan) says:
>
>My reference to physical speed effecting time travel has to do with a law of
>physics (or something like that) that says if you travel at cloe to the speed
>of light, you could travel for, say four years, and when you stopped, five
>years would have passed in the rest of the universe.  (remember the old       r
>Discove
>commercial  "... By the time I got back the baby would be an old man..")

Well, it depends on how close to the speed of light you are.  If you're really
close, you can actually slow down if you speed up.  Unfortunately, my
book on relative physics got sent home, so I cant use it for reference,
but the amount of time that passes depends on how close you are to C,
and a little change in the percentage of C is a big difference.  I may
be wrong about the above speed-up/slow-down thing.  I still think Cable's
methods of time travel are hokey.

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From: dm7z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Dizzy Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Who's the best leader?
Date: 4 Oct 92 06:24:28 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Ok guys,
 	since we're all into the x-men (whichever book that might be) let's do
a little survey.

1)Who is the best leader of the x-men? (Cyclops, Storm, Cable, Havok, or
Captain Britain)
2) Which is the best team? (Blue team, Gold team, X-Force, X-Factor, X-Calibur)
From: jwlr@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:41:24 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Gad) writes:

>I've been thinking about this whole Mr. Sinister thing, and I came upon a very
>interesting idea.  What if Sinister was Alex and Lorna's kid?  Farfetched?
>Maybe, but hear me out.

>Ok, in X-Factor 79 (?, I'm not SURE 'cause all my comics are at home, but I 
>THINK it was 79) Mr. S says "...and you would have caused the deaths of Alex
>Summers and Lorna Dane, and I couldn't allow that.  Personal Reasons."  Or
>something very close to that.  (It was in Mr. S's last conversation with the
>oh-so-ironicly named Ricochet, if ya don't remember)

>Any questions?   ;)

But then *why* was he so please when Alex took a shot at Malice in San
Francisco?

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
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From: cma@titan.ucc.umass.edu (COLIN MA)
Subject: Luna doesn't have powers?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:01:06 GMT

It has been written that the Acolytes are going after Luna,
Magneto's granddaughter, because she doesn't have any mutant
or Inhuman powers.  Hmm, I remember an X-Factor annual some
years back involving some plot about Black Blot's mad
brother taking control of the Inhumans.  Franklin Richards
was in this one.

Anyway, I remember seeing Luna levitating some objects in
one panel.  Does anyone else remember this or have a copy
of that annual (it was an early X-Factor annual)?  Maybe
they've retconned this one already...
   
Colin
cma@titan.ucc.umass.edu
  
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From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Excalibur question
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:17:40 GMT

I was rereading some of my old Excalibur and was wondering if Illyana's
soulsword shown in issue 11 is still sitting outside what is left of the
lighthouse.  If not how and when did it get moved? Thanks in advance.
From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Magik, New Mutants
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:45:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I was thinking of that horrible story (inferno) where Magik becomes a child
again.  There seems like there would be an easy way for our dearly beloved
teleporting sorceress to come back.

In the Magik mini series, there were a group of X-Men who were trapped while
their Illyana escaped.  I think it was that Illyana that Rahne grabbed at the
end of that story.  That would mean that our Magik is still around somewhere.
now how the othe Illyana got into that armor?  I don't know...since time moves
differntly in Limbo, maybe Magik (or some other version of Illyana, since all
Illyanas use Limbo[I think]).

So any time, our true Illyana can come back and join the party.

Technically, any Illyana, from any time ,at any age, and any level of goodness,
can 'port to this timeline.

Patrick
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Subject: Re: Time Travel
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 08:54:08 EDT
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Date:    26 September 1992, 08:51:19 EDT
From:    Ernie Oporto                               EAO102   at PSUVM
To:      CXMP at MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
Subject: Re: Time Travel

In article <25SEP92.14843941.0031@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, he says:
>
>Now you've asked for it!  1) Relativity implies that accelerating and
>decelerating has the effect of causing someone to age slowly.
>Effectively, you travel forward in time.  2) You can't go *at* the speed
>of light.  Theories as to what would happen if you were somehow able to
>travel at faster than light speeds have been discussed over in
>rec.arts.startrek.tech.

I know, I used to argue over there about that.  Anyway, you're right
about effectively going forward in time, but you cant use that
method to come back in time to your own past.  Thats where you
have to use the dimensional travel to get back to your past on your
own timeline.  It's one method for one direction, and another one
for another direction.  From the looks of Cable's machines, though
it uses the standard SF principle of a travelling telephone booth,
which is what I was trying to dispel.  And anyway, it doesn't look like
Cable is travelling anywhere faster than a horse when he bodyslides.

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From: jevans2@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jonathan Evans)
Subject: Re:Spiderman movie
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:24:30 GMT

If you didn't know, both X-men and Spiderman are being done by James
Cameron.  I've heard speculation as to who will be cast, but nothing
definate
From: masulliv@ecs.umass.edu (Michael Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Stryfe calls Scott and Jean "father" and "mother"!
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:59:26 GMT

<   Lots 'o stuff deleted       >
> 
> First of all, Shatterstar isn't dead.  No way, no how.  Second, I believe
> that they will develop his personality (at least, to some degree).  Why
> do I say this?  Look who's writing X-Force:  Fabian Nicieza (how in the
> hell do you pronounce that last name?).  Now, dig up that issue of
> Wolverine, and look up the writer.  That's right, Fabian Nicieza.  Odds
> are, Fabian will develop his personality to some degree.
> 
       <Lots more delete>

See the latest New Warriors where they give the phonetic spelling (or something
like that ) for "the last time".
	I'll try to remember to look it up and post it when I get a chance.
\							Mike S.
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Accent Escalation
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:40:16 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu
From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (NNR Czar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Cable #2
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:54:20 GMT
Organization: Yale University

Has this already come out?  I never saw it in my local comics store, and since
the other books in the X-Cutioner's Song haven't sold out yet, I'm wondering
if I missed it or it's just late.
 
 
 
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From: lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr)
Subject: Pax, r.a.c.
Reply-To: lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:34:43 GMT

Oh, well.  Time to move to the other side of the period.  I've had a
great time here, guys and dolls, and of course I fully expect
r.a.c.-na-misc to every bit as, um, ...>erm< .. interesting, but the
end of an ear, nonetheless and notwithsitting.  I meant era, but you
knew that.  I guess after the net.crisis the multi-groups will all
collapse back into one, but it'll never be the same.  Die with your
mask on,

Pax ex machina,
Glenn
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From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
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Subject: Re: Russian comicbook & movie - "Ilya Muromets"
Date: 28 Sep 1992 08:50:24 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu

wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman) writes:

>    This may be a first for Usenet: a _legal_ VHS trade,...

Don't know about "legal".  But I think it's morally OK.

>    (BTW, isn't crossposting to alt.fan.mike-jittlov a bit,...immodest?)

Immodest...  You are referring to someone who starred in a
feature film, as himself, with his own family starring as 
themselves, in their family home, and who got a couple
hundred people to march down a Hollywood boulevard singing
his praises.

But what i lack in modesty, i make up for in gall.

(And besides - wasn't that interesting, about the folktale,
movie, and legend change?)
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Man Of Steam!
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:26:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Sep29.172634.1489
Organization: The Ohio State University

I got it!  DC will cross over with a different Malibu line, Eternity!  
Professor Steamhead will arrive on the scene, knock Doomsday down with a Steam 
Bomb, sic the Zetramen on him to delay him, then treat Supes with special 
Zetranite-laced steam, reviving him! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
     Dave Van Domelen, RNC exchequer
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From: dan@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.marketplace,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies,alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: Russian comicbook & movie - "Ilya Muromets"
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:20:25 GMT
Organization: /home/fsg/dan/.organization

In article <1a1moqINNrkd@gap.caltech.edu> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu 
(Mike Jittlov) writes:

[fascinating account deleted of a film I'd love to see almost as much
as the old black and white "Reynardine" stop-motion film that I once
saw fragments of]

>   (No kidding - learned that in my UCLA folklore class, in 1969.
>   No idea where Bunyan's giant blue ox came from... Probably
>   embodied the settlers' wish for a decent meal.)

I thought that Paul Bunyan had been demonstrably linked to an
advertising campaign of the 19th century, and is not an ancient legend at
all.  Not that advertising campaigns aren't a valid source of oral
tradition - we still hear people saying "And she told two friends, and
she told two friends..." long after that particular advertising
campaign died out.

- Dan


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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April)
Subject: Re: Infinity War
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:38:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.222335.19632@yang.earlham.edu> marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt)) writes:
>In article <rdippold.717555760@qualcom>, rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>> raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES) writes:
>> Spoilers:
>> 
>>>In the last panel, we see Adam's good-side, which as predicted is female.
>>>I figure her to play prominently in a storyline in the future.
>
>I'm not sure, but I think Her is Adam's good side. Her, fromerly Paragon, 
>was Enclave's second attempt to make an perfect being. She is a 
>preexisting character and looks like a female version of Adam. Read 
>current issues of Quasar to find out more about Her.

Her is  definitely *not* Adam's good side.  The character we are referring to
here is the one whom (who?) Adam split away from himself while all-powerful.
Her was created looong before this, and is unrelated.  As we saw in Infinity
War, Good Adam(ette) was busily picking up the Cosmic Containment Units while
Her was involved attacking the Black Fleet in Quasar's own book.

Her was originally intended as Adam's perfect _mate_, however, and this may be
what you're thinking of.  She now goes by the name Kismet, for some reason.
It's possible, though, that Adam's good self has taken a form similar to 
Her's; the two do look alike.  If said good self has chosen a female form of
Adam's "species," then she'll definitely look a lot like Her.

>---Marc Seebass

The Walrus

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