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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: PC Week Summary: 4/6/92
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:24:24 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

Here's a summary of OS/2 news in PC Week's April 6, 1992, issue:

Much of the issue is devoted to WinHype on the day Federal Express
finally delivers those packages sitting the warehouses.  However,
there is some important OS/2 news.

Microsoft will indeed exclude support for OS/2 from C/C++ 7.0
compiler.  OS/2 developers will be "stranded" (by Microsoft, anyway).
The only way, Microsoft said, it would support OS/2 would be if it
made a "strong impact" or if Borland failed to deliver quality tools.

OS/2 2.0 makes deadline by minutes.  The final code was posted
electronically a few minutes before midnight on March 31, and IBM
delivered disks to many customers the next morning.  Analysts predict
1992 OS/2 shipments of 2 to 4 million; Microsoft estimates 200,000,
"maybe a little more."

Resellers plan to discount Windows 3.1 and OS/2.  Story about deep
discounts off list price for both products.

Microsoft and IBM agree to swap code.  With the long running dispute
heating up over the past few weeks, both companies will swap source
code for their finished products.  They came to such an agreement two
weeks ago.  The companies have still not determined royalty payments.

First Look: OS/2 2.0 Finally Here and It Works.  Largely positive
first impression, but it isn't clear whether this First Look is based
on the release code.

Editorial/Opinion.  William Zachmann warns of "broken" apps with
Windows 3.1.

"Other GUI Options" in the Windows 3.1 section.

"Rumor Central," Spencer Katt.  Talks about OS/2 2.0 rollout at New
York PC Users Group on 3/31.  Speculates that IBM is considering an ad
in which a man walks through an office full of users staring at
screens with Windows UAEs.  Also, he speculates that IBM will give
away certain 32-bit apps for certain users.  User blames Windows 3.1
for accidentally depositing $7 million into his checking account
(managed by Quicken) -- purrfectly "golden" Win 3.1 code.  Mentions
OS/2 2.0 credits screen (with CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-O).

Article about ISV support for both Windows 3.1 and OS/2 2.0.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
From: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Is GA beta code? NEW version of OS/2
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:08:34 GMT
Reply-To: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: mo@happy.cc.utexas.edu

Hello.  I read in one of the Fido messages TFS posted that the Boca team
re-compiled OS/2 2.0 at 5am April 1st.  They did some extra work so that
they could come up with a clean compile and no error messages, and that
GA is now 6.307N.  I was wondering if anyone can verify this.  I'm 
curious because I have heard about some tiny bugs in GA, and so the 
recompile story seems somewhat plausible.  Hope I'm not spreading too
much FUD!  :)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mcover@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark Coverdill)
Subject: Setting the path
Reply-To: markc+@osu.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:45:10 GMT

Being a novice to OS/2, having very little documentation and little
time to wade through the help system I thought I would ask some of those
new user FAQ's :-).

I realize the path gets setup in the autoexec.os2 file but how I can I get
more than the paltry 137 characters?

And while thinking about this question I have discovered that I cannot
run any programs in a DOS window.  All I get is SYS0005: Access is denied.

Solutions? Thanks.

Mark
-- 
Mark Coverdill                                 The Ohio State University
Internet: markc+@osu.edu                              Columbus, Ohio
From: pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Manuals with OS/2 V.2 as shipped.
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:37:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies


I have been reading alot about the on-line manuals and bound manuals for OS/2.
Does OS/2 come with BOUND MANUALS?  It seems that all it comes with is online
docs.

	ANy responses will be grateful.

				Jesus
				pr@umiacs.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jim@tct.com (Jim Kunzman)
Subject: Re: Intelligent users v. Microsoft
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:21:10 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie):
>You know, this whole debate about whether Windows is or is not an
>operating system has got to be the silliest thread I've ever
>seen.  In fact, it is so silly that it really calls into question
>the whole point of the thread.
>
>I mean, no one really gets this worked up over issues this small without
>someother motive do they?  
>
>-Greg
>
>Oh, I guess I shouldn't bother with a "not a microsoft spokesman"
>disclaimer since it doesn't seem to do any good anyway...
>
>
>-- 
>Greg DeMichillie
>Software Design Engineer - Application Frameworks (AFX)
>gregde@microsoft.com

Microsoft and PC Ragazine call it an operating system.

IBM calls it a DOS Extender.

Users I've talked to (me included) call it __________ (their favorite
expletive).  Whatever you want to call it is OK with me.  It's 
function overloading at its worst, i.e. you have to know the context.

BTW, a friend of mine got the equivalent of two UAEs within the first
ten minutes after installing Windows 3.1 while trying to run the
Borland Applications Environment.  Things which ran fine under 3.0
totally locked up his system.  Nice touch Microsoft.  Which DLL
commits hari-kari under the Borland apps?  8-)

I told him to try OS/2 of course...
-- 
Jim Kunzman at Teltronics/TCT     <jim@tct.uucp>, <uunet!pdn!tct!jim>
-----
OS/2 is dead!  Long live OS/2!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Printers under OS/2: signif of ATM was Re: DeskJet Support in OS/2 2.0 GA
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:38:23 GMT

Meir I Green writes

>How good is ink jet quality under OS/2?  Is it almost laser
>quality, using the DJ-500 driver?  If the EPL-7000 is a
>supported laser printer, but isn't Postscript, does that mean
>that one would get better quality from a Postscript printer,
>since ATM is the mainstay of OS/2?  Or is this *not* true, since
>OS/2 still lacks Postscript to screen, and the supported
>printers' drivers do a good job at translating the Postscript
>to bitmaps? 

For any text processing, you will indeed get higher quality
with OS/2 and ATM from any printer.  For straight up,
non-rotated text, your prints will be nearly as high quality as
that from a PostScript printer.  They may just take a while to
print... 

For the DeskJet printer, it turns out the biggest thing
affecting quality (now that ATM is part of OS/2) is what paper
you use.  Experiment a little.  You will find that some paper does
indeed give you near laser-quality from this printer. 

Scott Byer                                   NeXTMail: byer@adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated               These are *my* opinions, and  
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900             the opinions of my employer.
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From: chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: YACR (Yet Another Cron Request)
Keywords: cron, chron, os2, etc.
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:23:26 GMT
Organization: SCS/Compute, Inc.

In <parker.703186793@vela> parker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeffrey D. Parker) writes:

>Sorry.  I know I have seen this request before at least half a dozen
>times.  But, I need a version of Cron for OS/2.  I tried chron23.zoo
>from the OS/2 archives, but it has a bug in the date handling.  I will
>be sending off a bug report to the authors' CI$ address.  However, in
>the meantime, I was hoping someone knew of another one.

>Any help is much appreciated.

>	Jeff P.

I wrote a cron for OS/2. It's not PM driven (that's a feature, not a 
limitation for me.. :) ), instead it uses regular old unix format
crontab files. It comes with source. You can download it from my BBS
at 404-564-1961. Sorry, it's not on the net anyplace, as far as I know..

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mdknight@leland.Stanford.EDU (Milton Albert Snyder)
Subject: Re: Egghead
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 03:26:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.054015.9055@muddcs.claremont.edu> ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Dulay) writes:
>	I visited the local Egghead store last Saturday and was told there
>that very few Egghead retail outlets are planning to carry OS/2 2.0.  This
>store is one which is not going to be carrying it, but, the salesman told 
>me, the Egghead wherehouse would be carrying OS/2 and I should call them 
>@ 1-800-egghead.  @ this phone # the operator told me that Egghead didn't
>know pricing, its upgrade policy, or when it would recieve its first
>shipment of OS/2.  I've given up w/ the retail channel, but unless IBM
>does something to support the retail channel it will lose a lot of sales.
>I think that IBM shouldn't have bothered w/ GA on 3/31 since it's almost
>impossible to get the product until the end of this month.  Does anyone 
>agree w/ me on this?
>
>							DDulay

Egghead told me that they probably would not carry OS/2 2.0 because
they could NOT SELL IT FOR A PROFIT.  They stated that IBM would not
give them any better pricing than anyone else who called 1-800-3IBMOS2
so they would have to sell it for more than IBM does.

Skip.
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 19:29:29 WUT
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Upgrading from 1.x-- I want to cry!

I cry too. Upgrading from OS/2 1.x to 2.0 is not free in Austria/Europe
either (nor in Germany for that matter either) !

---rony
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 09:07:28 EDT
From: Dan Kehn <KEHN@CARVM3.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject: Re: IBM, are you listening? (Was: Windoze 3.1 is here.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

            <wwpjqga.lucky@netcom.com>

In <wwpjqga.lucky@netcom.com> Lucky Lee writes:
>gwebster@student.UVic.CA (Gord Webster) writes:
>>You've dropped the ball. Are you so afraid of Micro$loth that you are
>>willing to let OS/2 die a lingering and pitiful death?
>
>I agree with every word in that post.  I have never seen a more pathetic
>advertising campaign for a product that has a potential of being an
>absolute winner.  I have ordered mine from IBM, but from what I see so
>far, I am not sure OS/2 is going anywhere.  What in the world is going
>on?  Is someone asleep?  I can't believe it.  Who the hell is in
>charge of marketing for this product?  Can we please have his name?
>Can we please have his name on the firing notice?  Please, WAKE UP!!!
>
>l.
>

I'm not "in the know", but I would guess that the marketing folks are
waiting until the product is stocked everywhere before launching a
media blitz.  Otherwise, IBM might be spending all their advertising
dollars to drive consumers to the store only to be switched to a
"competitive" (I use the term only figuratively  ;-)
product by zealous salespeople.

If there were no competitors (in the consumer's view), IBM probably
would have started the media blitz long ago to create pent-up demand.
I have no doubt that IBM will market OS/2 very aggressively once the
retail stores are stocked.

Dan Kehn
#include <stddisc.h>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: OS2 My experience/minor problems
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:56:47 GMT

jarman@ee.ualberta.ca (Andrew Jarman) writes:
>
>>Can anyone tell me how to change OS/2 to use a free IRQ please?  Thanks!
>
>Yup -also had that problem in 1.3 when installing my SB.  Instead of telling
>OS/2 to use a different IRQ for the printer, simply change the jumper on the
>SB to something else.

Is this to imply that you can change the interrupt for your printer
under OS/2?  I suppose that it could only be done if your I/O card
was capable of using other interrupts.  It sure would be nice to
free up IRQ7 by using an IRQ higher than that on my ISA system.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: IBM First Quarter Profits
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:09:25 GMT

Yesterday IBM reported first quarter earnings of $1.07 per share
(close to $600 million), up from first quarter last year (and of
course up from fourth quarter).  (Going from memory on the figures,
but I think they are correct.)  On the strength of IBM's earnings,
which surprised most analysts, the Dow Jones Industrial Average
reached an all time high yesterday on Wall Street.

IBM yesterday closed up $.75 a share, to $88.?? per share, and was the
most actively traded issue on the New York Stock Exchange.  IBM is one
of the Dow Jones 30 Industrial stocks.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: glowi@ruhaix1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (Glowienke Dag)
Subject: Searching full screen capture in graphic mode 
Organization: ruhaix1   Rechenzentrum Uni Hohenheim
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:34:46 GMT

I am running a graphic application (VGA) in OS/2 1.3 full screen, because it doesn't work in a window. All I want is to capture the screen of this programm and save it as a BMP, PCX or an other format. I have tried several public domain and shareware programs such as PMCAPTURE, SNAP, CLIPIT, FOTO etc.. They work fine on the PM Desktop, but not in OS full screen. The Programs which were designed for full screen, captures only in text mode.
I also tried to dump the screen to printer (HP DESKJET 500 C). But it results in endless form feeds. The printer is installed correctly (printing from PM Desktop is correct.).
SYSTEM:
386sx, 25 MHZ, Trident 512k, 4MB, 80Mb Harddisk

I also intend to update my OS to OS 2.0. Could this be a solution for my problem ?

Dag Glowienke (glowi@ruhaix1.rz.uni-hohenheim.de)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Windows NT
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 06:53:55 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I'll bet I have seen a dozen sarcastic postings taken seriously here and
in other fora this week.  We have to realize that sarcasm does not even
translate into some cultures or even some US educations.  I had the luck
to be raised by a master of the form but someone without much exposure
easily perceives it real and then feels foolish.  So, careful folks. 
To be safe across an international network prefix it with "sarcasm on:"
or some such. Let's agree on a sarcasty symbol.

Nominations being accepted under thread "Sarcasty Symbol Cascade".

Bob

-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Possible Reason for no OS/2 in Stores?
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:17:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.v0vj!++.feustel
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

dch2@engr.uark.edu (David Hobbs) writes:

>..., there was somewhat a shortage on floppy disks right now.

Yet another reason to issue OS/2 on CDROM!!!
-- 
David Feustel N9MYI, 1930 Curdes Ave, Fort Wayne, IN 46805. (219)482-9631
= Candidate Bush wouldn't recognize principle if he were standing upon it =
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bjorn@ludd.luth.se (Bjorn Fahller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ga's applets
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:22:12 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Lule} H|gskolas datorf|rening ( Ludd )

In <1992Apr14.013220.25135@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith) writes:

>"bradley grigor" <bradley.grigor@canrem.com> writes:
>>
>>I'm not impressed with the games, especially Klondike.  Windows
>>Solitaire is definitely more appealing visually -- the cards look
>>nicer, more accurate, etc.  First impressions last and my first
>>impression was bad.

>Yes, visually Klondike can't compare with Solitaire at all.  But

>The Chess game is well done.  Took me a few minutes to figure out
(some editing done, to keep only the necessary parts)

I wonder why I haven't heard anyone complain abour the reversi? Am I the
only one who have tried it? It looks fine. It's fast. It's lousy. The
Windows reversi isn't as fast by any means, but at expert level, it's actually
a challenge. Trading skill for speed, doesn't impress on me. This is from
betas 6.167 and LA. I haven't had a chance to test GA yet :(
   _
/Bjorn.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: william flusek <flusekw@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: IBM OS2TAPE software
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:52:28 -0500

In article <kubja5INN6h9@coltexo.cs.utexas.edu> easyrob@cs.utexas.edu (Robert Depew Reynolds) writes:
>Has anybody tried this software with OS/2 2.0??
>
>Robert D. Reynolds
>easyrob@cs.utexas.edu
>

Well, while things looked good to begin with, they aren't quite as good
when I get the restore done.  I have been playing with OS/2 2.0 GA
trying to get the orginal folders to come back up and they won't.  So I
have resorted to doing a Migrate again to bring the icons back and get
things working.  Also, the OS2TAPE software does not close properly when
opened in an OS/2 window.  This may be a settings problem, but I am not
sure.  (This happened under 6.304E and GA)

My tape software is version 1.01.  

Even with the Migrate, OS/2 2.0 now does not like the driver lines from
my old config.sys.  It says that the drivers are invalid.  Looks like I
will reinstall the Netware Requester and Network Management System.

Shucks,

Bill Flusek, DOS Systems Specialist, Indiana University
Organisation: ECP-Paris France
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 23:27:22 EDT
From: Jay Thierry HAN <HAN@FRECP12.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 GA - Impressions, Suggestions, Info

In article <1992Apr8.165702.7340@ccs.QueensU.CA>, vandendo@qucis.queensu.ca
(Christian Vandendorpe) says:
>
>How were you able to boot from a logical partition?? I thought you
>could boot only from primary partitions (wether they be the active or non-

Boot Manager (a feature of OS/2) will let you boot OS/2 from a logical
partition. The above setup is also mine (85/115 DOS/OS2 balance). I'm not
sure Boot Manager lets you boot DOS from a logical drive, though.
                                                                 Jay Han.
                                             Ecole Centrale Paris, France
                                                       HAN@FRECP12.BITNET
From: 880506s@aucs.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: An open letter to PC Magazine
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:09:46 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


	To clear the air.  Windows applications are cooperativly multitasked
but DOS apps are premeprivly when running windows in enhanced mode.  The windows
session is treated as one DOS apps and preemtivly multitasked with the dos apps
but inside the windows session the windows apps are cooperatively multitasked.
Hope this clears up the confusion.

-james

--
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James R. Skinner                       Acadia University, Wolfville, NS, Canada
880506s@aucs.acadiau.ca                       Jodrey School of Computer Science
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor)
Subject: Please don't proselytize on Windoze groups !
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:23:03 GMT

People, people, please dont do it. The disillusioned 3.1 upgraders
will become too shy to talk about their wonderful new OS!-:) They seem to
be doing a wonderful job for OS/2.


Dov
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 Release: First Impressions
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:21:09 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <rdippold.702930585@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>One thing they're missing... (All you OS/2 utilities programmers).  I
>really miss my file name completion.  I can get it under DOS, of
>course, but not under an OS/2 window.  It's incredibly useful.  You
>just type a partial file name ("TES") and then hit tab, and it cycles
>through all the files that match that (TEST.ARJ, TEST.GIF, TESTER.EXE)
>in that directory.

Well, 4DOS does this (and works in DOS sessions under OS/2).  There's
also a 4OS2 package out (to replace OS/2's CMD.EXE).  So all bases are
covered.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
From: alushiku@engws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Lushiku)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS and Memory
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:35:39 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

In article <18828@bach.udel.edu> swyatt@bach.udel.edu (Stephen L Wyatt) writes:

] Just to note-- all of you 386 users out there that have only 4 megs in a 
] machine that can handle 8 (like me), I've seen prices for 1megX9 SIMM memory
] for $49... thats less than $200 for another 4 megs, which is very good if you
] are seriously considering using OS/2 2.0.

I just paid $41 for each MB (70ns SIMMs).  Check out the latest _Computer
Shopper_ for prices as they tend to fluctuate rapidly.

----
alushiku@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu
Turn your 486/33 into an XT....Just add MS Windoze!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Windows NT is here??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:36:47 GMT


Microsoft is again demonstrating its marketing "acumen"
(actually SLEAZE). I picked up descriptive literature for
Windows NT today at the Ohio State University, Computer
Store. It is a one page (2-side) description that gives the
distinct impression that this product is already available.

No where is the future tense to be found, except
under "Availability" where it states Windows NT DEVELOPMENT KIT
WILL be available in 1992. The clear impression is
that NT itself is here NOW. They even give a number for
"Ordering Information" 1-800-227-4679.

The information sheet is dated 03/92, thus is obviously timed
to attempt to counter OS/2 using vaporwear. I hope the FTC is
-- 
 < Ron Jones                             E-mail:   rj+@osu.edu  > 
 < The Ohio State University             Office: (614) 292-1665 >
 < Columbus, Ohio 43210                  FAX:    (614) 292-7151 >
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