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From: potter@usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jeff Potter (CADIG  STAFF))
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Met-rx...
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:48:23 GMT
Organization: U. S. Naval Academy



  Met-rx is a food replacement system that embodies 3 to 4 servings a day
using regular food as a "supplement" to the formula. Met-rx is an engineered
food that was developed by Doctor Scott Connolly to prevent muscle atrophy
in patients recuperating from surgery and or accidents.
  Met-rx has been tested in double blind studies and has been proven to
reduce fat while enhancing muscular developement. In truth Met-rx is an
anti-catabolic formula that inhibits the cortisol production that generally
results from weight training.
  I personally used Met-rx recently for a 6-week cycle and got good results.
Met-rx is not intended to replace or produce the effects of steroids. My
feeling is that it works through preventing overtraining, and enhancing
the nutritional process of muscle building. There also seems to be a thermo-
genic effect (similar to that felt when taking Dymetadrine-25) that may
account for some of the fat loss.
  In the 6 week cycle I lost about 7 pounds of fat and gained about 3 pounds
of muscle. Not bad progress for 1 cycle. Had I continued to use Met-rx I
probably would have seen greater results as the benefits seem to be
cumulative. I feel that is a legit product that will aid natural bodybuilders
especially when they are trying to get ripped. I tend to add fat over the
winter and like to get cut as summer begins. I would recommend giving Met-rx
a try.
From: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Met-Rx
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:26:21 GMT
Reply-To: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va


	I was wondering what happens once you've finished using Met-Rx?
Provided the stuff worked for you (lower body fat, increased mass), what
happens when you go back to eating regular food?  I'm making the asumption
that regular food means low fat, high carb, medium protein, etc., etc.
Do you keep the gains you made on Met-Rx?  I guess I was comparing it to
people going on, say, Slim Fast for example, and they loose weight but
immediately gain it back when they quit using it.
Xref: sparky misc.fitness:6717 sci.med:15843
From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,sci.med
Subject: Re: Body Gold scam product
Summary: If it ducks like a quack...
Keywords: Is it for real?
Date: 16 Aug 92 02:24:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Aug16.022415.25275
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug15.193037.16874@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>>       " University studies have identified CHROMIUM PICOLINATE
>>        as a trigger for fat loss and lean muscle enhancement.
>>        200 micrograms taken daily caused a 22% fat loss in only
>>        six weeks."
>	No, these claims are not for real.  Exercise causes weight loss,
>dieting causes weight loss.  Food or OTC drug products do not.  
>	To save yourself future posting time:   There are, and never
>have been, any food or OTC drug products that "melt away fat", or cause
>fat loss or muscle gain.  The claims are, however, an eternal source
>of revenue for con artists, despite being disproven by science.

More generally: If a miracle treatment really works, and is safe, you
will not hear about it in just one place.  It will quickly be in very
wide use.  

-- 
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Artificial Intelligence Programs | U of Georgia | Athens, GA 30602  U.S.A.
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From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:55:23 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug19.230028.14334@oracle.us.oracle.com> hweingra@oracle.UUCP (Howard Weingram) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.045058.6873@athena.mit.edu> aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos) writes:
>>As a neutral observor to the unofficial Boston armwrestling and ego 
>>championships (which Adam won) i must note that at no time did Adam 
>>inform us of the official armwrestling rules. 
>>
>>A hidden camera took a video of Adam using highly suspect technique against his
>>worthy opponent Ron Cecchini. The tape will be forwarded to the 
>>maryland Armwrestling Association and their punishment will be 
>>severe: They'll take away Adams Arwrestling T-shirt! 
>>
>>Aleck
>
>Wow. And here we thought Adam was just the Karelin of arm wrestling. 
>The sordid truth is just too much. You've wrecked my faith  in humanity, Aleck.
>What did he do, body slam him?
>


hal, not all is lost.  aleck is the karelin of drag racing.  he drives
like a rabid bat out of hell.  it made for quite a whirlwind experience!

poo
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Favorite Foods
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:01:55 GMT

In article <Aug.19.22.24.08.1992.7867@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>What type of healthy food do you really like?  I'm very fond of
>yogurt; my one-day record is over 100 ounces (really!).  I
>also like low-fat cottage cheese, and I regularly eat 24 ounces
>of it at one sitting.  I've been known to eat lots of rice, also.

The "health" of yorgurt is a marketing myth.
It is more or less equivalent to milk except for the brands that add tons
of sugar to make it taste sweet.
Milk has a full complement of proteins and many vitamins.  It also huge
amounts of nasty animal fat- the bad kind of chloresteral.  It doesn't take
a whole lot of milk/yogurt to meet one's daily nutritional reguirement in
protein and fat.  Regular milk yogurt has 1.3 grams protein and 1.3 grams
fat per ounce, so a a quart and a half (48 ounces) pretty much satisfies the daily
requirement of both.
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From: wallaker@dvinci.USask.Ca (Aron Wallaker)
Subject: Re: Met-rx...
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:02:50 GMT

stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark) writes:
: potter@usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jeff Potter (CADIG  STAFF)) writes...
: >  Met-rx is a food replacement system that embodies 3 to 4 servings a day
: >using regular food as a "supplement" to the formula. Met-rx is an engineered
: >food that was developed by Doctor Scott Connolly to prevent muscle atrophy
: >in patients recuperating from surgery and or accidents.
: [snip]
: >  I would recommend giving Met-rx a try.  
: 
: Sounds good ... who distributes it ?  Is it something that I'd find in 
: a General Nutrition Center or such, or is it sold directly through a
: manufacturer ?

On a related note, has anyone seen Met-rx in Canada ? It generally takes
a while for any new product to get cleared for distribution up here.
I'm thinking about trying Met-rx, but first I have to be able to get it.

-Aron Wallaker
University of Saskatchewan
From: 8schutting_r@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re:I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:02:37 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

why does adam always have to put at the end of every message that he's a power
lifter and arm wrestler? is this official designated title bestowed on him by
the univ. of maryland president?
BS in powerlifting & arm wrestling. don't worry about getting an education adam
pro arm wrestling is going to be on american gladiators. maybe you'll finally 
be able to do something with that degree.

i eventually lifted the 100lbs. off of adam's chest with one arm then impressed
the audience by doing a one arm curl. adam then asked me for advice on how to 
lift!!!!
bob
From: bw361@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter M. Liiva)
Subject: Ultimate Frisbee?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:02:35 GMT


I was wondering if there were any netnews groups that deal
with ultimate frisbee. IUm living in the Hudson Valley
region of New York and am interested in finding a club
to participate in.  I used to play in the club at Penn State
but then i did a horible thing: i graduated :-( 
:-)
please send any direct coresspodence to peteski@texaco.com
as this is the most direct way to reach me.

thanx in advance

-pete liiva
From: ecurtis@orion.oac.uci.edu (Evans Curtis)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Met-Rx
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:34:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Aug14.154129.27690@PA.dec.com> stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark) writes:
>
>woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside) writes...
>

On this Met-Rx, could someone post all the pertinent information?  PLEASE?

I'm definitely interested in the stuff, but I don't know where to start.

Who makes it, where to find it, a phone number, etc., etc.,

Obviously the stuff works so why not give it a try.


Thanks,


Evans.-
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: hweingra@.com (Howard Weingram)
Subject: Re: I WAS ON ABC W/ADAM FOR TWO MIN
Reply-To: hweingra@oracle.UUCP (Howard Weingram)
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:00:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Aug19.045058.6873@athena.mit.edu> aleck@athena.mit.edu (Aleck H Alexopoulos) writes:
>As a neutral observor to the unofficial Boston armwrestling and ego 
>championships (which Adam won) i must note that at no time did Adam 
>inform us of the official armwrestling rules. 
>
>A hidden camera took a video of Adam using highly suspect technique against his
>worthy opponent Ron Cecchini. The tape will be forwarded to the 
>maryland Armwrestling Association and their punishment will be 
>severe: They'll take away Adams Arwrestling T-shirt! 
>
>Aleck

Wow. And here we thought Adam was just the Karelin of arm wrestling. 
The sordid truth is just too much. You've wrecked my faith  in humanity, Aleck.
What did he do, body slam him?

;-) ;-) ;-)

				hal
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From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: What's the deal with those carbohydrates
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:52:51 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Aug20.124639.19942@dscomsf.desy.de>, muchor@zow12.desy.de (Krzys Muchorowski (Warsaw)) writes:
> I might have missed that, but what is the difference between the
> complex and simple carbohydrates ? I mean, the difference not between
> the chemical bonds or whatever, but rather why our body reacts in
> a different way and thus it is better to fuel a body for a workout
> with complex carbos ?
>    Krzys

Simple carbohydrates are mono and disaccharides which are composed of single and
paired rings of sugar. Polysaccharides are known as the complex carbs, and are
composed of one monosaccharide which is glucose.  One example of this is Starch
which is a plant polysaccharide composed of glucose.
Basically, complex carbs are healthier for you than simple carbs.  However, a 
balanced diet should include simple carbs as well. (like lemon meringue pie,
Hagan Dazs ice cream! :-)  sp?)  Sorry...i'm drooling on my keyoard. :-)
This competition diet i'm on is devoid of anything that tastes good.  :-)
Now then, complex carbs are converted to energy slower than simple carbs.  That
is why you should consume complex carbs rather than simple carbs before your
workouts; so that you have sustained energy release through your workout.
hope this was helpful.

-Rob
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From: ak536@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (B. Wanchisen)
Subject: Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?
Reply-To: ak536@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (B. Wanchisen)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 17:08:55 GMT


In a previous article, aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall) says:
>
>So, er... any OTHER suggestions for ab work?  :)
>
><whispers to all those kind readers who sent e-mail>  I've
>ordered Legendary Abs, but don't tell Wanchisen... if she
>learns I've got it, she'll allthetime wanna borrow it.

Why?  Does it have nice pictures?
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From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: Fitness Thoughts
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:11:45 GMT



	There was a recent article in Redbook which discussed the best
and worst choices of fast foods.  Suffice to say that the fast food
meals which contain relatively little fat and relatively few calories are
generally rather meager helpings, e.g. McDonald's regular hamburger,
which is really nothing more than a snack.

	About the only reasonably sized fast food meals which aren't too
damaging are the various grilled chicken sandwiches and the McLean, as I
mentioned before.

	Personally, I'd rather go to a nearby supermarket for some
cottage cheese and fruit.

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
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From: chaos@zeus.tamu.edu (Kimberly Diane Faircloth)
Subject: Re: Running Question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:17:00 GMT

>   From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
>   |I was wondering which of the following is a better workout and causes
>   |less wear-and-tear on your joints:
>   |
>   |1) Running smaller distances but at a harder pace
>   |2) Running medium distances at a medium pace but sprinting for the last
>   |   .2 mile
>   |3) Running longer distances at a slower pace
>   |Currently, I do (2) for a distance of about 3 miles. 
>   |
>   |- Sanjay
> 

To avoid the wear and tear on your body, it's best to give them a day's 
rest between runs.  Keep doing (2) say Mon, Wed, Fri and do something
else on the alternate days that is less jarring the joints...like
bicycling or stair climbing.  This way you'll still be working the
cardiovascular, while giving your joints a bit of a rest.


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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca (Reg Foulkes)
Subject: Re: The performance tables
Followup-To: misc.fitness
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:22:32 GMT

In article <Aug.14.17.54.09.1992.16113@remus.rutgers.edu>,
clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) wrote:

> How much do you weigh, and how tall are you?  How often do you work
> your arms, and what exercises/sets/reps do you typically do?
> 
  I'm 6'00" weight 205lbs. I change my workout about every 4 months.
(I've done almost every work out under the sun.) So asking me what 
exerices/set/reps I is sort of meaningless. For example, Last month
I workout 5 days a week hitting each body part twice, and increasing 
the sets to 20 for larger muscles and 16 for smaller. i.e. For chest 
(a larger muscle group) I would do 4 set BP, Incline BP, FLYs, Incline
DB presses. For biceps I would do 4 sets of straight bar curls, 4 
concentration curls, 4 decline curls, 4 hammer curls. This cycle, I'm 
doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday workouts, 3-5 sets per body part. 
(I'm concentrating more on sprinting-I'm trying to lose some weight(fat))
 
> If I've worked them intensely enough, I'll get muscle spasms
> when I flex my biceps at the end (i.e. involuntary contractions).
   
   I get the same thing. In fact I get cramping (especially lats)

> That's basically been my bicep workout for the recent past, and I
> do this about every 6 days (which is about how long it takes my
> biceps to fully recover).
 
  For me back & biceps recover fast. Chest & triceps take forever.

> You might be working your biceps too frequently, or you might not be
> going high enough in the reps.  185x3 seems quite strong for someone
> with only 15.6" arms.  Do you have short arms (people with shorter
> arms, like Adam silver, have a leverage advantage and hence can do
> more in certain lifts)?  

  No Chris, I don't have sort arms. I have very long arms, also legs. 
I figure that's why I do so well with back exercises, whereas chest
is relatively week (my max on BP is only 225)

> That might explain it; I have rather long
> arms.  You should also be careful with your form.  If none of this
> sounds like the problem, try dropping the weight by 20% and doing
> as many reps as you can.  185x3 will build strength, but not
> much size.

  Yes, I do this when I leave my strenght/power phase of workingout.
> 
> Do you have good tricep size? 
  
  My triceps are almost no existent. There is a good 4" from my eblow to 
the lower part of my tricep.

 Most of my size is bicep, but I do have
> fair triceps.  
  
  All my arm size is bicep. The reason I think my arms are still around 
Adam's size is genetics. I have small muscle bellies in my upper body 
and I can seem to gain size without getting fat. I was and always will be 
natural. 

***********************************
riskit@x400gate.bnr.ca (Reg Foulkes)

No passion on earth, no love or hate
Is equal to the passion 
to change someone else's code
From: stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Met-rx...
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:44:06 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


potter@usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jeff Potter (CADIG  STAFF)) writes...
> 
> 
>  Met-rx is a food replacement system that embodies 3 to 4 servings a day
>using regular food as a "supplement" to the formula. Met-rx is an engineered
>food that was developed by Doctor Scott Connolly to prevent muscle atrophy
>in patients recuperating from surgery and or accidents.
[snip]
>  Met-rx has been tested in double blind studies and has been proven to
>reduce fat while enhancing muscular developement. In truth Met-rx is an
>anti-catabolic formula that inhibits the cortisol production that generally
>results from weight training.
>  I personally used Met-rx recently for a 6-week cycle and got good results.
[snip]
>  I would recommend giving Met-rx a try.  

Sounds good ... who distributes it ?  Is it something that I'd find in 
a General Nutrition Center or such, or is it sold directly through a
manufacturer ?

						thanks,

						todd
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Myerson)
Subject: Re: Favorite Foods
Organization: Raytheon Company
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:34:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.213314.20224@u.washington.edu>, griffin@milton.u.washington.edu (Thomas Griffin) writes:
*  In article <Aug.19.22.24.08.1992.7867@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
*  >
*  >What type of healthy food do you really like?  I'm very fond of
*  >yogurt; my one-day record is over 100 ounces (really!).  
*  
*  With all this talk of egg whites, skim milk and tuna, it's great to
*  see someone else endorse yogurt, non-fat of course. I find that if I
*  skip a day, I can get weird cravings for it. 
*  
*  Speaking of cravings and favorite foods, I have terrific
*  cravings for carohydrates at night just before I go to bed.
*  I've been eating whole wheat bagels and breakfast ceral (non-fat
*  brands). Do you other folks also suffer from evening cravings for
*  carbs? Do you resist or give in to them? What do you eat when you
*  have a carbo craving?

Oh yes, the late night munchies.

I try some fruit, fruit juice, and/or non-fat cereal.
If that doesn't satisfy the sweet-tooth,
I indulge in some non-fat frozen yogurt.

And if all else fails, I go to bed and eat my honey.

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Aerobics and Bodybuilding
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:01:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I'm adding regular aerobic workouts to my bodybuilding.  Currently
I'm 26, weigh ~240, and have a rest pulse of ~54.  I've just started
doing a recumbent bike for about 30 minute sessions, keeping
my pulse at around 155, three times a week.  Also, after lifting
I've been doing the same for 20 minutes, in addition to a very
easy (pulse 120-130) 10 minutes before lifting to get the blood
flowing.

Is this a productive approach?  Should I drop the aerobics after
lifting?  Are the times okay?  Since I'm new to steady-pulse aerobics
(I've done martial arts and biking-around-town in the past) I really
have no idea what I'm doing.

I'll also be getting a treadmill shortly.  What's the best way
to use the bike and the treadmill together?
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618

"In a study of schoolboys, an educator discovered a correlation between size
 of feet and quality of handwriting.  The boys with the larger feet were,
 on the average, older."        Wallis & Roberts, _The Nature of Statistics_
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Rollerblades
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:41:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

Try posting in rec.skate. The questions you are asking get asked and
answered in rec.skate on a regular basis.

If your site doesn't get rec.skate, post again, and I'll answer for
you, since in-line skating is my sport.
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Nutritional information
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:41:55 GMT

>From: goodguy@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Shen Kai Lew)
> Nutrionists recommend limiting fat intake to 20 grams per day. From
>experience that is pretty hard, you gotta have a strong willpower. It is
>the information age, so read the nutrition labels.

this reminds me of something i heard over the weekend at the local Price
Club. (btw, i saw a map of Price Club locations, and they are almost all
on the east coast or in California, except for three in the middle US...
i think one in Ark., one in Kansas, and one in another close to those but
i can't remember exactly!)

anyway, a woman working for Price Club giving out food samples mentioned
that by (i think) next year all food sold will be required to have complete
nutritional information printed on the package! yippee! of course that means
everyone can know exactly what they are eating, including those burritos
containing 26 grams of fat per serving! ;-)

Janice

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