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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:25:51 -0800
From: Zero_One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: ZyXEL 16800bps?
Comment-To: Kirby_W._Hughes@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
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 > In article <1992Oct9.105313.12245@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
 > hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (hasit mehta) writes:
 >>In article <csjohn.718590512@knuth> csjohn@knuth.mtsu.edu (The Mad
Hatter) w
 > rites:
 >>>I have a ZyXEL U1496E with version 5.02 EPROMs.
 >>>I tried connecting to a USR Dual Standard with AT&N35, but
 >>>could only get a 14400bps connection.
 >>>Does anyone know how I can connect at 16800bps?
 >>>Thanks.
 >>>
 >>>--
 >>>John Wallace   ||   INTERNET: csjohn@knuth.mtsu.edu
 >>>  > > > Vote for freedom.  Vote Libertarian. < < <
 >>
 >>Yup call another ZyXEL 1496, I believe it has to be a fairly new
one or has
 >>to be using a new version of the ROM., and you will connect at
16,800.
 >>An easy way to make sure modem will do this is to give the ZyXEL
support BBS
 >>a ring. The 16.8k feature is ONLY availible when calling another
ZyXEL.
 >>Hasit

 > Also, are you sure that your 1496E has 16.8 capability?  I just
 > ordered mine,
 > and they said that 16.8 (and voice) is $50 extra!!!!

That is *ONLY* for the U-1496B.  We have to modify the internal card
for it to be capable of handling 1 meg sockets, hence the additional
charge.  *ALL* external models come with 16.8 standard at the price
you see in the ad.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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 * Origin: -=ZyXEL USA=- 1:202/701.101 (1:103/356.6)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:03:47 EDT
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: USRobotics dual 14.4 upgradable to v.fast?
 <1992Oct6.213127.7933@utdallas.edu>

In article <1992Oct6.213127.7933@utdallas.edu>, goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K.
Goyal) says:

>>If you can, take a look at USR's Courier or Sportster line.  Open one up.
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^
>>You'll see the daughterboard, and the connectors to the main board.  It's a
>>simple swap.

>I don't know how the Sportster is built, but *only* the USR Courier DS,
>Courier v.32bis, and LAN Sharing modem will be upgradeable.

This is true, but there is no _technical_ reason why a future V.Fast
board would not work in a Sportster -- it's built the same way as the
Couriers.

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: panizo@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Maria Panizo)
Subject: Re: Caller ID
Organization: Texas Christian University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:21:30 GMT

In article <18013@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zerkle@cs.ucdavis.edu (Dan Zerkle) writes:
>
>Anonymous police tip lines.
>
>Any business that will record your phone number and use it for cold
>calls later to try to sell you a Ronkomatic Turnip Twaddler.  Then
>sell it to every other company that comes along.
>
>Your phone number is quite valuable.  With caller id, once you call a
>business for any reason, they'll have it.  They can call you back to
>
>data about you.  With your telephone number, any company has a unique
>identifier of your household.  Databases already exist that will give
>your name, address, and so forth from your phone number.  Of course,
>with your phone number so widely available, much more information
>could be put in these sorts of databases.
>
>nothing).  The next time I call up some mail-order company to find the
>latest price on modems, I don't want to be indexed, cross referenced,
>sold, filed, mailed, told I "may already be a winner," called, pestered,
>categorized, and proselytized.
>

Most companies that have toll-free numbers are provided the calling party's 
telephone number through ANI and have been for some years.  For instance,
if you call American Express Customer Service from a phone other than your
home or office number, i.e. one they've not seen before, they will ask you
if you have a new telephone number.

CallerID is nothing new, it's just going to give individuals access to tech-    
nology that only medium-to-large businesses had in the past.

Companies you called to get pricing from in the past have all had your number;
you just didn't know it.

MP
y

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch)
Subject: Re: Practical Peripherals 14400
Organization: Wayne's World, Inc -- NOT!
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:16:54 GMT

In article <ieLFsB1w164w@mcgort.COM> rlm@mcgort.COM (Robert McMillin) writes:
>st1n2@rosie.uh.edu (McCoy, Mark) writes:
>
>> I am currently shopping for a 14400 modem.  I have been following this
>> group for about a week and haven't seen any posts about the Practical
>> Peripherals 14400.  I have seen lots of posts on the Zyxel 1496e, but
>> I have been unable to find a local (Houston) dealer who carries them, and
>> out of town places I have contacted are back ordered.  The Practical
>> Peripherals 14400 has been recommended to me, but I know nothing about it.
>> The one person I know who has one has been very satisfied, but I would
>> like to get some more input on the PP before I plunk down the cash for
>> one.  Also, if anyone knows of a reliable Zyxel dealer who isn't back
>> ordered I would like to hear about them.
>
>I have been pretty satisfied with my PP 14400FXSA.  The only trouble I
>have had has been connecting to Telebit modems; I have isolated this
>trouble as a problem caused by the PP's inability to deal with marginal
>lines.  This pretty much seems to be a problem will all modems built from
>the Rockwell chipset.  Rockwell claims that they will eventually improve
>this, but I haven't seen it.  I am able to connect with no trouble to
>modems much closer to me (i.e., one or two switches away).  It's really
>hard to know what's the best out there, but as far as price/performance
>goes, I think the PP is probably the best deal going.

I like my PPI 14400FXSA, and MacUser agrees that it's a good buy
because of how well it preformed during noisy line conditions (some of
the modems they tested couldn't even make a connection with a noisy
line connection). They say with Mac Cable and Software that you can
pick one up for around $420 street price. I was amazed at how well
written their manual is. I also thought the rolodex card with their
tech support number was a classy idea. Their tech support has been
pretty good thus far. They give free ROM upgrades (and send you a
package in which to send the old ROM back to them in for
recycling/reuse purposes). I especially like the modem's LCD display
that tells you exactly what's going on.

For price/preformance ratio, they gave the Supra a thumb's up. The
Supra only has a 3 character LCD display, but it's a bit more
expandable (Called ID and Voice Recognition), has 14.4k fax (the PPI
14400FXSA only has 9600 fax), and did slightly better than the PPI in
their tests. The price direct from Supra is $399, but you could
probably do a little better mail order.
-- 
Dameon Welch, NH6TW
kc@netcom.com               +-----------------------------------------+
Engineering Design Center   | Help, I'm trapped in a .signature file! |
Santa Clara University      +-----------------------------------------+
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Call display with Modems
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:11:35 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Oct14.212902.13641@hp1.holl.com>, dave@hp1.holl.com
(David Vrona) writes: 

>>It can't be done with a 1200 bps modem for the simple reason that a 
>>normal modem will try to do all the normal handshaking up front.  You
>>need a CNID box.  If your area supports CNID, you shouldn't have any
>>trouble finding one at Rat Shack.
> 
> Ok surfer dude, here is how to do it:
>...
> System Requirements:
>                 Serial port, Bell 202 or ClassMate modem, Caller ID service
>                 supplied by local telephone company.
>...
> You really shouldn't say something can't be done unless you know what you're
> talking about.

C'mon David, give us a break.  He said a "normal modem" can't do it 
-- which, to me, means a modem that you can buy today, anywhere.  
Modems on the market today support Bell 212, not Bell 202. Bell 212
modems can't receive Caller ID info no matter how many capacitors
you attach to their line interface.  It is almost impossible to find
Bell 202 modems these days, and I doubt many folks just have one
laying around the house. I have no idea what a "ClassMate" modem is,
but can guess that it is one that is specially designed to receive
Caller ID -- not exactly a "normal modem", right? 

I think he _does_ know what he's talking about, and you owe him an 
apology.

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From: daveg@misty.sara.fl.us (Dave Goodman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: USR DS v.32bis 10-15% faster thoughput over the Worldblazer
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:41:06 GMT
Organization: The Center for Creative Confusion, Sarasota, FL

In article <BvpKAI.A9@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

> Well, why can't I get 1500 cps doing uucp-g into my WB modem?

I dunno, but it is not because the modem is not capable of it.  We get
1550 (actually 1542-1558) cps on a WB to WB V.32bis uucp-g news connection.

--

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From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR Sportster Info Needed!REGISTER
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:54:05 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden
OD-Comment-To: Internet_Gateway

> I understand the fall forward/fall back is in the v.32bis specification.  
How> is USR's ASL related to this feature?  ie. what's the difference between
> ASL and the regular v.32bis rate changing?

ASL will give you:

o Fast retrains and faster connects

o Asynchrounous speed shifts. The sending and receiving speed can fall
  back and forward independently. I.e. if the send direction suffers
  from line noise, it can fall back to, say, 9600bps, while the receiving
  channel can stay at 14400bps, this allowing for a more efficient overall
  transfer.

                        _       .    __
    Roger Nordin     _ //      /!Net /est Bench
 2:203/602.0@fidonet \X/  Internet: Roger_Nordin@bad.se

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From: nnw@concurrent.co.uk (Neil Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra modem power adaptor
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:07:20 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation, Slough, England

In article <44-PCNews-124beta@hart.actrix.gen.nz> graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz (Graeme Hart) writes:
>julien@incal.inria.fr (Julien Maisonneuve) once wrote....
>>Hey, I noticed that Supra power adapters output AC !!!
>>Does it mean that there is a diode bridge inside the modem itself ?
>>My understanding is that there should be no problem with feeding the modem DC,
>>what do you think ?
>
>There should be no problem feeding the modem DC, if the modem converts
>the AC to DC before it does anything.  However, what if the modem uses the AC
>for some purpose, then converts it to DC?
>
>>-- 
>>  _________                    Julien.Maisonneuve@inria.fr  julien@sor.inria.fr
>
>----
>Graeme Hart                                     Telephone:  64 4 3829124  
>graeme@hart.actrix.gen.nz                       Snail Mail: PO Box 11865    

This is a little something that I got from Supra in response to my "when
is the 240V version going to be available. It would seem applicable
here:

====== Begin Quote =====
Date: 01 Jun 92 20:11:45 EDT
From: Supra Corporation <76004.565@compuserve.com>
To: Neil Watson ESDG Product Support Concurrent Computer Corporation <nnw@ccur.co.uk>
Subject: Re: "International" versions of the V32bis FAXmodem

Dear Mr. Watson,

We are currently having a problem getting our supply of 220/240V power
adapaters for the various European countries and this is holding up shipping of
the units.  If you wish to purchase a U.S. model, you can provide your own
power adapter with 9VAC @@ 800-1000ma output.  If the plug is not the correct
size, you can splice our plug onto the leads of the transformer you supply.

Hope this helps.

John
Supra Corp.

-- 
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             227 Bath Road, Slough, Berks, SL1 4AX, England
             Phone: (+44) 753 513360  FAX: (+44) 753 513303 
(nnw@slough.ccur.com, nnw@concurrent.co.uk or 100021,3041 @ Compuserve)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Call display with Modems
Organization: very little
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:40:00 GMT

In article <3886@randvax.rand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.212902.13641@hp1.holl.com> dave@hp1.holl.com (David Vrona) writes:
>>  . . . .
>>System Requirements:
>>                Serial port, Bell 202 or ClassMate modem, Caller ID service
>>  . . . .
>>You really shouldn't say something can't be done unless you know what you're
>>talking about.
>
>Fine, but just what are the chances that the original questioner has a
>modem which supports Bell 202?  Nobody claimed it couldn't be done given
>the right hardware.  But it can be said with near-certainty that someone
>who bought a modem in the past decade or so which supports 1200bps
>operation will have Bell 212A but /not/ Bell 202 capability.  The
>exception would be modems like Zyxel and Supra which have support
>specifically designed for caller-ID.
>

Not only that, but it requires a BELL 202 FOUR WIRE modem.  All of
the hobbyists I know have modems set up for conventional tip and
ring connections to the telephone network.



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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer)
Subject: Re: UUCP 'g' must die (was Re: USR DS v.32bis 10-15% faster thoughput over the Worldblazer)
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:32:02 GMT

gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:

>I've pointed out (and you've agreed) that the design of the protocol
>isn't at fault.  Larger packets handle all the issues you've raised.

That's true enough, but IMHO enough implementations have gotten
it wrong (either they don't use proper defaults, or don't honor
large sized packet requests from the other side).

>The IMPLEMENTATION of 'g' is what is limiting you - not the design
>of the protocol itself.  

>Boost your 'g' parameters up to 1024x3 and look at the results
>for V.32bis/MNP4 (Toby's figure of 1725 cps max):

If it is possible to train Taylor to use larger packets, it's
a mystery to me. It's stuck at 64x7 for me. And even if I use
large packets, it's a crap shoot whether:

A. My neighbors will force 64x7, undoing all the work.

B. My neighbors will segfault because the crappy implementations they
have can't figure out 1024x3 (or better yet 1024x7).

C. It'll be 64x7 one direction and 1024x3 the other

or

D. It'll work.

I'll stipulate your calculations, but they are merely academic
unless you can get the damn thing to USE large packets.

>IMHO, we don't need to throw 'g' away.  We just need to write better
>implementations, like SVR4 and Taylor.

IMHO, The likelyhood of fixing the problem is higher with a replacement
protocol. One strongly designed so that hopefully lazy implementers
can't make do with getting it 'close' like so many have with 'g'.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: andy@dutecae.et.tudelft.nl (Andy Verberne)
Subject: Do such BRAIN DEAD modems exist ???
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:41:08 GMT

Has anyone ever heard of a modem which is capable of communicating
with a rate of 9600bps to other modems using MNP5 data compression but ...
which can communicate whith its host at a rate no higher then 9600bps?

This seems rather stupid to me (except off course for carrier speeds lower then
9600bps), but do these modems exist ? And if so, why is the RS232 connection 
restricted to 9600 baud while the hardware implementing this part surely 
isn't the most expensive part ?

-- 
     Andy Verberne                       E-mail: andy@dutecae.et.tudelft.nl
     Delft University of Technology  
     Department of Electrical Engineering
     Computer Architecture and Digital Systems
From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Supra - STILL Problems
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:11:14 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden
OD-Comment-To: Internet_Gateway

> I dont beleive USR DS's use fully V.32bis negotiate means. From what I,ve
> gathered, they use some type of short cut to get quicker connects.

The USR DS and V.32bis Courier line of modems equiped with ASL will connect 
faster with another modem supporting ASL. However, this is fully transparent! 
If the other end doesn't support ASL, it will do a normal V.32bis connect. The 
V.32bis implementation of the USR has been running for years now, and is very 
stable and good working.

                        _       .    __
    Roger Nordin     _ //      /!Net /est Bench
 2:203/602.0@fidonet \X/  Internet: Roger_Nordin@bad.se

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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: What modem is THIS!!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:03:33 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Oct14.220654.13267@samba.oit.unc.edu> mcphil@med.unc.edu (Philip McNamara) writes:
>Help me Identify this modem. 
>On the right-front side, above the power switch there is graphic with
>the number 2400 between a horizontal red bar and a blue bar:
> 
>                     [[[[[[  <- red
>                      2400 
>                     [[[[[[  <- blue
>

Sounds like a Zoom modem.  Could be an OEM unit.  I think Magic, who advertises
in Mac magazines, OEMs the Zoom, for example.

You mean there's no name of any kind on the modem?




-- 
   |||    Ed Krimen
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: swhite@tybse1.uucp (William C. "Spike" White)
Subject: FAX software recommendations for Sparc
Organization: Tybrin Corporation, Shalimar, FL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:27:35 GMT
Summary: Recommendations on Postscript "print to fax" capability sought
Keywords: Postscript Fax SparcServer  

We have a SparcServer 10 for which we want a "print to fax" capability.  
That is, a user can run an application, generate a Postscript file and select
FAX as the output device.  After answering a few questions, it should spin
off a shell script to fax the file.

Since we have Sun's Postscript software (NeWSPrint?), the software can work
with it can handle either Postscript or LaserJet III files.  Ideally, this
feat would be accomplished with a std. fax modem, but other hardware would 
certainly be entertained (FAX server, etc.).

Any recommendations?


-- 
Spike White     Tybrin Corporation, Shalimar, FL   | Moderation in all things --
spike.white@tybrin.com                             | and abstinence in none! 
Disclaimer:  The guys down the hall disagree with everything I say! Guess 
	     who speaks for the company. 
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:15117 comp.sys.mac.comm:10062
From: sveinng@kopasker.is (Sveinn Gunnarsson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ROM upgrade for Microcom MacModem QX/V.32 => V.32bis
Keywords: Modem, ROM, upgrade, V.32
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:23:57 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Primary School of Kopasker, Iceland


Does anyone know if there is avail. ROM upgrade for Microcom QX/V.32
(MacModem) to V.32bis ???

Thanx. in advance...
-sg

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: SUPRA - new ROM version 1.2G? 1.2J?
From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 16:27:06 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System
Keywords: Barf

radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel) writes:

> In article <Lo92RB5w165w@hovel.welly.gen.nz> cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phi
> >garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes:
> >> 	I'm confused. Isn't it TRUE that SUPRA is offering a new 1.2G ROM  
> >> upgrade? And a guy just came out selling the SUPRA v32bis for $265 with
> >> the latest ROM 1.2J???????????
> >> 
> >> 	Is 1.2J an earlier or latter version of 1.2G?
> >
> >Yes, you'd think so, seeing G is before J in the alphabet.  I've never seen
> >people number versions of software from 1.99 back to 1.00.. ;-)
> >
> >1.2J is the FREE upgrade Rom.  There is a 1.2H or something with caller-id
> >features, for an extra $50 I think.
> 
> Bzzzzzzzt!  Thank you for playing.
> 
> ROM version 1.2H is the free upgrade rom. It does not have Caller ID.
> 1.2J is the upgrade with Caller ID; it costs $20 plus shipping.  Both
> ROMs are otherwise identical in bug fixes, etc.

No.  Bullshit.  At least, from what was posted earlier on comp.dcom.modems:

--START DOCUMENT--
Subject: Supra SHIPPING New ROMs
Date: 22 Sep 92 20:12:20 GMT

I called the Supra BBS last night and I found that you can now order the new
ROMs.  They offer two different ROMs.  The first one (1.2J) has all the
features that were posted earlier (including silent answer) except Caller ID
and it is FREE. It is shipped using first class US Mail (only shipping option
available for this ROM).  The second (1.2H) is one that includes all of the
above and adds Caller ID.  This costs $19.95 + $5 for UPS second day air
shipping for domestic costumers, or $15 US Airmail shipping outside the US
(again, only shipping options available for this ROM).  It mentions that Supra
Gmbh in Germany will be handling the upgrades for European customers in about
a month with less shipping costs if they choose to wait.  The retail price for
the Caller ID ROM is $49.95.

They say that fastest way to upgrade is using the BBS. They also say that
notices HAVE BEEN sent to all registered users and you can get your upgrade by
responding by mail. Another method to order the upgrade is to use Go Supra on
Compuserve and download a form that you can email to them. You can also send a
letter marked "ATTN: V32BIS ROM" with a copy of the serial number from the
bottom of your modem asking for the upgrade.

It is also mentioned that these upgrade offers expire November 30th.
--END DOCUMENT--

Usually I try not to post things unless I'm absolutely sure about them...

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