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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WCW] H. Havoc '92
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:08:04 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston) writes:

> What are the rules for each of these matches?
> 
> >Coal Miner's Glove Match
 
A 10 foot pole is erected in one corner of the ring. On top of the pole is
a "diamond studded" glove. These matches usually end with the face and
heel battling for the glove. The face gets it, cold cocks the heel and gets 
the pin.
 
> >Russian Chain Match
 
Both wrestlers are attached at the wrists by a 10 foot long chain. To win,
you must drag your opponent around the ring, touching all four corners.
The typical ending: The face has touched three corners and the heel 
desperately tries to avoid it. He fails.
 
> >I Quit
 
Falls only count by submission, or yelling "I QUIT!" at the top of your 
lungs over the P.A.

> >Barbed Wire
 
The ring ropes are wrapped in barbed wire.
 
> >Prince of Darkness
 
Both wrestlers have hoods put over their heads "so they can't see a
thing!". Very stupid concept.
 
--Don

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 13:58:32 EDT
From: <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Who is Erik Watts?

     Who is this Erik Watts guy that has recently wrestled in WCW?
Where is he from?  Where has he wrestled before?  For how long?  etc.
From: awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh)
Subject: Muhammed Ali vs ?
Reply-To: awalsh@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:08:40 GMT

Quick, someone tell me who Ali wrestled/boxed a long time ago.
I believe it was a japanese wrestler.

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From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Bruno Sammartino
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 01:54:45 EST
Reply-To: uunet!tension!birdland!andy
Keywords: Ears
Summary: Yeaach!
Expires: never
Distribution: usa
Organization: What organization?
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

No doubt you guys all caught Bruno's slam at the WWF. But did you see the
condition of his ears? Yes, I know, I probably sound like Pat Patterson.
But man, I never really gave much credence to the comments about headlocks
giving you cauliflower ears. I guess it's true.

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From: ccjames@cybaswan.UUCP (j hussell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WWF Magazine (Fan Forum:  The Undertaker)
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:33:50 GMT
Reply-To: ccjames@pyr.swan.ac.uk (j hussell)


As promised in my previous postings, here are just a couple of fan letters
sent into  WWF Magazine about the Undertaker.  

Prologue:
=========

We asked you how you felt about the Undertaker in July's issue of WWF Magazine.
Your responses were overwhelming, thus substantiating the Undertaker's world-
wide popularity.  Here are just a few letters we randomly selected.  Thousands,
mind you, were sent into the WWF Magazine office.

"The Undertaker is now my favourite wrestler in the WWF.  I would love to see 
him trash the Berserker.  That's exactly what I know he'll do!"
						Jason Inlow, Carmel, Indiana.

"I think there's another reason why the Undertaker attracts so many people.  
It's the entrance music that he has them play for him every time he enters
an arena."
						Danny Sormaz, Sharon, Pen/ania.

"I think the Undertaker is an awesome wrestler.  He is so strong that he can 
pick up any wrestler in the WWF and Tombstone him onto the mat.  He'll make it
to the top one day, and I won't be surprised if it is some day in the near
future."
						Jay Scardina, Miami, Florida.



There were just a small selection from WWF MAgazine's Fan Forum.



Jimmy 'The Whizzkid' Hussell

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From: ljr3721@usl.edu (Joey Richard)
Subject: Re: Sportatorium (9-5-92) 
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: na 
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:27:35 GMT

Jeff,

I was surprised to hear that WCW was at the Sportatorium.  But why?  How
many people does this arena seat?  What was the attendance?  Isn't there
a larger arena in the Dallas area that they could have used? 

 
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Are you in the IWA?
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:37:41 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:

> 
>      Are you a member of the Imaginary Wrestling Association?  I
> would like to hear from people who are; or from people who want
> to know more about it.  You may have seen it advertised in maga-
> zines before.
>      I am in the Road Warrior League.  Remember, expect the un-
> expected!!!
 
I was involved in it for about a year. It was fun when I was new, but
when you've won the IWA World Belt and gotten no clock trophy, you
lose interest fast. So, when I came up to Buffalo, I transferred my
TNT Enterprises from the Death Block League (which I ruled) to some
of the fine play-by-EMAIL leagues.
 
Needless to say, it was a turn for the better (and CHEAPER!)
 
--Don

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From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Subject: Re: How many UWs?
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:45:51 GMT

In article <visser.716242782@convex.convex.com>, visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
>	...Rick and 
>	Ole anderson are cousins and the andersons are all brothers.

Hmm.  How can Rick and Ole Anderson be both cousins *and* brothers?

	Just another statement of confusion from the Johnster.

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: MVC, what does it stand for?
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:50:05 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


  What does MVC stand for in referring to Williams and Gordy?  People seem
to refer to their tag team by this name.  I haven't followed their career as a
tag team, so what is it?  Thanks,
                                  Fippster 6
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WWF Survivor Series in Cleveland
Date: 5 Sep 1992 20:09:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


On the local events center on WWF Superstars today they announced that
the Survivor Series would be on Wednesday, November 25th here in
Cleveland (actually at the Richfield Coliseum).  Tickets are to go on
sale during intermission of next week's house show.

-- 
===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: Asking marks
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:37:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.203109.21439@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>In article <3605@ra.nrl.navy.mil> luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:
>>In article <21891.9209141446@flatiron.fsg.com>, evan@flatiron (Evan L. Marcus [Fusion Systems Group, Ltd.]) writes:
>>> 
>>>> Any other thoughts?
>>>
>>
>>Trying to confound marks with my brilliant insight, I would ask them:
>>
>>-> How come wrestlers never get arrested for assault? (The Mountie for
>>   using his shock-stick, Nailz for using the night stick,etc.) After
>>   all, this stuff isn't part of the match. Wouldn't a baseball player
>>   get arrested for attacking an opposing player with a bat after the
>>   game? 
>>
>>-> How come when a wrestler connects with an elbow drop, it doesn't hurt
>>   him, but when his intended victim moves away and his elbow hits the
>>   mat, it *does* hurt? Even when skulls and ribs are probably harder than
>>   the mat?
>>
>>in the same vein...
>>
>>-> How come the person *giving* the head butt never gets hurt?
>
>
>
>For the mark in me: We were all told that Flair and Co's "Plan A"
>failed, yet what was "Plan A" supposed to accomplish? Ric wasn't
>even in the match, so how could "Plan A" have gotten him the Belt?
>Soften up RS or UW for a *future* championship match with Flair?
>If this is the case, then "Plan A" did *indeed* work, hence, no need
>for a "Plan B", which is supposed to be the plan that brought Ric
>the championship. I guess my question then is: What was "Plan B" then?
>          
>
>Also: Do the Good and Bad Wrestlers fight with each other when
>      they travel together by plane?
>
>
>
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From: IO20643@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Speak morbid IWA wrestlers
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:51:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Super Nate says ----- I and my partners from Doomsday Enterprises
shall remove thy soul and place it within insanity.  Speak and
prevail, Don't and thou shall suffer the consequences.Be at one
with the DE and forgiveness will provoke thy most horrid
nightmaresand the DE and DA will ressurect upon you.  Watch for
the DOOM to Destroy you.  So be allies, while you still can,
putrid mindreaders.  OUR PRESCENCE SHALL BE PLACED UPON THE E-MAIL
LEAGUES SOON.  BEWARE!!!!
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: random musings
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:37:42 EST
Organization: What organization?

* Herb's news that Hernandez got fired from WCW was definitely confirmed
  he jobbed for Shane Douglas. His mask was pretty thin, too. You could
  so right through it.

* Man, Brian Pillman is an unconvincing heel. Another i'll-fitting change.

* Sid Justice is interviewed in "Inside Wrestling." He talks about making
  a comeback, and all. I didn't read all of it, but from the general tone
  of his words, he's trying to come back as a face. The interviewers were
  LAME! One guy tried to act like Eddie Ellner, made an insult, and the 
  other guy said something like "We get an interview with the immortal Sid
  Justice and you almost end it before it starts." I laughed out loud
  right there in Basset Books.

* We have a place nearby called Amazing Tales. They sell wrestling videos
  for $3. A lot of them are old Mid-South tapes. Randy Savage and Lanny 
  Poffo against the Rock-n-Roll Express in a cage, circa 1981. There's about 
  3-4 of them. I'll get a complete list of them. You tape traders might be
  interested...

* I know no one cares, but I'll say it anyway. Bill Watts is a shithead.
  The off the top rope rule takes away from the best wrestlers in the
  group, and removing the mats outside the ring doesn't prove what real
  men those guys are, it could cripple them. His blatant favoritism of
  his old UWF men (MVC, and Shane Douglas making a huge entrance) is a
  slap in the face of guys who put up with WCW shit at its lowest points.
  Next we'll see Ted DiBiase and Hacksaw Duggan showing up and winning
  titles within a week of arrival. The only good thing that can be said
  is the lack of screw jobs and plentiful clean pins.

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From: spr@prism.gatech.EDU (Stefan Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WBF Failure?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:20:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <H03yqB6w164w@jaflrn.UUCP> grendel@jaflrn.UUCP (Don Becker) writes:

>Allegedly, McMahon pulled the plug on the WBF because the buy rate
>for the WBF championships was lower than that of the UWF Beach
>Brawl!

The number of homes buying the last WBF championships was on the order of 2000
homes in the entire country. The buy rate was about 0.1 - 0.2 %, pathetically
low compared to about 5% for some events.


>--Don



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From: IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Are you in the IWA?
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:17:59 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


     Are you a member of the Imaginary Wrestling Association?  I
would like to hear from people who are; or from people who want
to know more about it.  You may have seen it advertised in maga-
zines before.
     I am in the Road Warrior League.  Remember, expect the un-
expected!!!

Boss Sutherland
Manager of Doomsday Enterprises
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Jake Roberts shot at by fan
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:35:29 GMT

PWI Weekly confirmed the earlier report that Jake Roberts was shot at
by an elderly fan September 5 at the Dallas Sportatorium.

Another fan saw the gun and swiped at it as the man pulled the
trigger, which deflected the shot.

The fan in question was attended by his personal nurse. Apparently
he's been attending matches for 30 years without incident.

No one was injured.

My apologies for being very skeptical of the report earlier.

Michael
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: WCW, Watss
Keywords: I mean Watts, anyways, what is he doind?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:22:40 GMT

In article <Bu0nMt.877@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>
>   While I have only limited experience
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   watching Japanese (mostly Liger, Muta,  & whoever challenges the Steiners
>   on certain PPV's) I would say that the Steiners, particularly Scott, are
>   the most exciting team to watch, move for move.  If you want to watch a
>   match that looks like guys are really wrestling and you have a lot of
>   moves, you watch the Steiners.

Limited experience w/ the Japanese? With a comment like the above, it shows.

>  IMHO, losing the Steiners would be a terrible blow to WCW, possibly for
>wrestling in general.  

If they were to leave, I probably wouldn't shed a tear. Yes, they can
show some pretty neat stuff, but usually only when they feel like it.
It'd be nice if for once they felt like it during a non-squash match.

>the Steiners could be the future of wrestling.  A team or a
>wrestler that spends the match kicking a punching his opponent with one or 
>two "wrestling" moves is just a boring as watching the circus of the WWF.

The future of wrestling? If that means being so high on yourself that
you want a zillion dollars for squashing jobbers, refusing to sell any
opponents' moves, backing out of charity work after committing to do it,
and just plain being reluctant to job for anyone -- no thanks, I'll 
stick with the Japanese stuff so I don't have to deal with that crap.

The Steiners have improved on the jobbing aspect of the above, but they've
still got a ways to go before I'll acknowledge their so-called "Greatness".

>  Watts better realize his preferred wrestling, the days of brawling, should
>be weeded out of wrestling.  Don't bring back rasslin', bring WRESTLING.

Agreed.

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From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: CoC Results
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:33:00 GMT
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

In article <Bu0Awo.2AA@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes...
> 
>  Showed end of NWA finals match with Chono using a flying shoulderblock
>off the top rope to pin Rick Rude.

Now that I think about it, I should comment on this.  I got the
impression that I wasn't watching a Japanese match as much as I was
watching a WCW match that was held in Japan.  I'm assuming that at least
someone on here has seen this match in its entirety, so perhaps they can
refute or uphold this statement.

>End with a long clip about Halloween Havoc.  Great acting by Roberts,
>bad acting by Sting.  

Another thought here: was the extra amount of money they spent to film
this, as opposed to videotaping this, going to increase their buy rate
by an equal amount?  Makes me wonder how much TBS really cares about
WCW's bottom line.

>I can't understand how come the Steiners aren't pushed more.  They 
>represent the most exciting tag team and wrestle better than anyone else.

Actually, they represent what is wrong with most of today's wrestling. 
Look at their matches more carefully.  Do they really work like they
give a shit?  It certainly doesn't appear that way to me.  Scott does
his finisher without any regard as to whether it even looks like he's
trying.  Oh, I know, the Frankensteiner is a "sacred cow" and I should
not put it in a bad light.

To their credit, they usually have good matches on PPVs, but there are
many other teams that I would prefer to see get pushes.

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From: Mark Byrne <M.Byrne@compserv.utas.edu.au>
Subject: Re: PWI Top 500
X-Xxdate: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:56:00 GMT
Organization: Uni. of Tasmania at Launceston
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:54:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.162755.369@zip.eecs.umich.edu> Power Geeking .....
writes

> 90	Super Invader
>141	Hercules

I thought these guys where the same person....  thus how can he have two
rankings???

any thoughts....



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*                    - The GROSS GLADIATOR, 1992                     *
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From: 00njhavert@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: What is a Prince of Darkness match?
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:42:42 GMT


	What the hell is a Prince of Darkness match? And for that 
matter what are a Texas Bull Rope match and a Coal Miner's glove
match?

Nik
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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Apology
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:38:10 GMT

	I wish to apologize for my question asked the other day.
	I am new to this group (ie since the last FAQ posting.)
	Someone was kind enough to send this FAQ to me, so i have the
information i need.
	I understand that the question was unneccesary and irritating.

	For this, I apologize.
	Thank you to everyone who sent me nice, polite replies.

	Thank you to everyone.  I really like this group.

					Jeremy Nelson
					Iowa State University


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