HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis)
Subject: Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Biological Sciences.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:58:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.161301.2354@mtek.com> bud@mtek.com writes:

[complaining about CMK and his banned material list]

> You seem to be highly selective
>about where you choose to apply your alleged standards.

   Really? I would have said that Carl Kadie was one of the best examples
of consistancy on the net. He sets out his beliefs with clarity, and shows
how each case he talks about violates what we would call 'academic freedom'.

   He is not selective even by silence. He has showed up in nearly every
group I read to argue for AF when the issue comes up.

   I can understand people being upset with and abotu Carl Kadie, but 
calling him 'highly selective' is pretty far out.

DanZ

   
-- 
    "I think it is a little premature to attribute the failures of American
     foriegn policy to Carl Kadie."
                                                     -Mike Godwin
This article for entertainment purposes only.
Xref: sparky comp.admin.policy:1248 alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk:3094
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: Re: MCI E-mail Snooping
Keywords: Corporate Computing, September 1992
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:53:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.070306.8031@qiclab.scn.rain.com> 70465.203@compuserve.com writes:
>Sorry, but according to the laws, a sysadmin can read *anything* if
>it is necessary to keep the system working or to fix a problem.

"According to the laws..."  Which laws are these?  Can you provide 
specific references?

I suppose that in general it probably is legal, or more to the point, in
general it is probably not illegal.  However, MCI may be a different
case, as they are already a common carrier... are they allowed to listen
in on telephone conversations?
--
Jurgen Botz                  |   Internet: JBotz@mtholyoke.edu
Academic Systems Consultant  |     Bitnet: JBotz@mhc.bitnet
Mount Holyoke College        |      Voice: (US) 413-538-2375 (daytime)
South Hadley, MA, USA        | Snail Mail: J. Botz, 01075-0629
From: hong@nttsgw.yh.ntts.co.jp (Zhang Hong)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: ideas for better relations US-Japan
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:55:38 GMT
Organization: NTT Software Corporation, Yokohama, Japan

Hi Netters :
As for 'Spot Light on Japan' at SDSU in SanDiego from 25th Oct.
I will be a member of participants from Yokohama ,Japan.
We are learning about 2 topics.

	'USA-JAPAN Communication Gap(in buseness)'
	'Idea for better relations US-Japan' 
 
Please send me a mail,if you have comments in this topics.
We want to talk in Email,if you are students of UCSD and SDSU.

Thanks in advance
M.Shimomura
NTT Software Corp. Japan
masaru@nttsgw.yh.ntts.co.jp
From: ssaltz@cabell.vcu.edu (Steven A. Saltzberg)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: OpScan sheet - sale to students
Summary: Experience with sale of Opscan sheets to students
Keywords: optical scanning sale
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:49:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabell.1992Oct5.174939.14312
Expires: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University


Currently Virginia Commonwealth University has a policy of giving
the Optical Scanning sheets used for test grading out (to the faculty
administering the test) free of charge (actually the computer center 
picks up the cost).  This is getting a bit expensive.  So we are
evaluating letting the student store sell the opscan sheets (right 
next to the Blue Books).  The concern is that the opscan sheets will
be so damaged that the scanner can't read them.

Does any one out there have any advice?

Steven Saltzberg, Director
Academic Campus Computing Services
Virginia Commonwealth University
ssaltz@cabell.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: Banned List Reminds me of National Enquirer Tactics!
Followup-To: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:28:33 GMT

marchany@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Randy Marchany) writes:

[...]
>Really now, do you think that suggesting that
>readers contact their campus newspapers (as suggested by you in a
>subsequent post) is really helpful? Frankly, I  can see the newspapers
>grabbing the "hot" issue that will grab the reader's attention and not
>give the full picture (any guess as to what the issue would be?
>:-)). All we have to do is review the Houston newspaper episode about
>Usenet and other incidents like it to realize that no good came out of
>it.

This is a good point. People should consider this before contacting
their newspapers. However, at many places (Iowa State U., many of the
Canadian schools, Boston U., to name a few) the bans and restrictions
are so entrenched that I don't think a newspaper story is likely to do
any harm and may help by shaking things up.

[...]
>I feel that your post didn't present the entire picture.
[...]

Another good point. Any one who sends a press release to a student
newspaper should have some knowledge of the incident.

- Carl
--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
Originator: kadie@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:48:56 GMT

Hank Nussbacher <HANK@BARILVM.BITNET> writes:

[...]
>Is your list just for academic institutions or for every Internet
>site?
[...]

Just for academic institutions.

========= Excerpt from ftp.eff.org:pub/academic/banned.1992 ====
Banned Computer Material 1992

Inspired by Banned Book Week '92, this is a list of computer material
banned or challenged in academia in 1992.[...]

The list proper starts after a list of the academic institutions where
bans or challenges have occurred.[...]
[....]
==================================================================
- Carl
-- 
Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me.
 =kadie@eff.org, kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:56:35 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <1992Oct1.024913.14347@news.iastate.edu> spam@iastate.edu (mike begley) writes:
>A "senior
>official" personally told me that "the [ISU] computation center
>administration had no business in making legal decisions because they
>have no legal expertise".
>Michael Begley 

This is the central point by which I object to ALL censorship by computer
centre staff (and others) of material distributed via Netnews.  They make a
decision based on hearsay, rumor and a occasional personal observation mixed
together with their own beliefs and then place a blanket ban on the group. 

This extends to censorship of email and posting to groups - if you take on
the responsibility of deciding what is and is not `legal' without the
necessary background you can end up with real legal problems of your own.

Common carriers like the post office and its officials are not
responsible(*) for the possibly illegal contents of letters and packages and
make no attempt to check.  Why should netnews or email be any different.  

(*) This may not be true absolutely everywhere.


-- 
Geoff. Lane. | Internet: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk | Janet: zzassgl@uk.ac.mcc.uts
UTS Sys Admin,  Manchester Computing Centre,  Oxford Rd,  Manchester, M13 9PL
"The Royal Family must think the entire world smells of wet paint."
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:03:48 GMT

bud@mtek.com (Bud Hovell) writes:

[...]
>Also, I frankly have little patience for dealing with what some snot-
>nosed teenager whose parents have come up with tuition may have to say
>on the subject, based solely upon his belief that one slow reading of
>the Bill of Rights entitles him to thus draw sweeping conclusions
>about what *must* have been in the minds of the Founding Fathers with
>regard to his personal login privileges.
>
>Most of the people who post here, by contrast, bring at least some
>modicum of experience and thoughtfulness to the discussion.
[...]

It appears that one person who posts here brings a modicum of rudeness
to the forum.

- Carl
--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: Princeton policy on From lines
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:54:44 GMT

In article <RSM.92Oct6163504@coral.math.arizona.edu> rsm@math.arizona.edu (Robert S. Maier) writes:
>I just reviewed Princeton's "1992-1993 Guidelines for Use of Campus and
>Network Computing Resources", and had to chuckle at the following sentence:
>
>	Attempts to alter the "From" line or
>	other attribution of origin in electronic mail,
>	messages, or postings, will be considered
>	transgressions of University rules.

>My personal .emacs file, a copy of which is on every machine I have an
>account on, contains the following lines:
>
>	 (setq gnus-user-login-name "rsm"
>	       gnus-use-generic-from "math.arizona.edu")

I think, under a very strict interpretation of those rules, you are not
altering the "From:" line at all - you are creating it before it otherwise
exists.

Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy
From: rsm@math.arizona.edu (Robert S. Maier)
Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,news.admin
Subject: Princeton policy on From lines
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:35:04 GMT
Followup-To: comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona

I just reviewed Princeton's "1992-1993 Guidelines for Use of Campus and
Network Computing Resources", and had to chuckle at the following sentence:

	Attempts to alter the "From" line or
	other attribution of origin in electronic mail,
	messages, or postings, will be considered
	transgressions of University rules.

I think the authors of the Guidelines meant to refer to _obfuscatory_ or
_deceptive_ alterations of the From: line, not just any alteration!

My personal .emacs file, a copy of which is on every machine I have an
account on, contains the following lines:

	 (setq gnus-user-login-name "rsm"
	       gnus-use-generic-from "math.arizona.edu")

For those who don't use the GNUS news reading & posting package, what these
lines do is simple.  They set up a fixed From: line,

	From: rsm@math.arizona.edu

which will always appear on my postings.  No matter which NNTP server
I post articles to (I have access to several), or what machine I post
articles from.

Apparently straightforward standardizations of this sort violate the
Princeton Guidelines!  And what about all the people who append funny
parenthetical comments to their From: lines?  Princeton sysadmins,
please note.

-- 
Robert S. Maier   |  Internet: rsm@math.arizona.edu, rsm@cs.arizona.edu
Asst. Professor   |  UUCP: uunet!arizona!amethyst!rsm
Math Department   |  Bitnet: maier@arizvms
Univ. of Arizona  |  FAX: +1 602 621 8322
Tucson, AZ 85721  |  PHONE (dept.): +1 602 621 6893
U.S.A.            |  PHONE (office): +1 602 621 2617
From: saw@hallc1.cebaf.gov (Stephen A. Wood)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [soc.roots] GEDCOM utilities for LDS IGI
Followup-To: soc.roots
Date: 27 Sep 1992 09:46:24 GMT
Organization: Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
X-Original-Newsgroups: soc.roots
X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:37:05 GMT

Archive-name: auto/soc.roots/GEDCOM-utilities-for-LDS-IGI

For the person who was looking for utilities to work with GEDCOM files
from LDS family history centers, there is a program that might be of
interest if the GEDCOM files came from the IGI (internation genealogical
index) database.

The program is called igi25535.  It is a program that will import a GEDCOM
file from the IGI and spit it out in some more readable form.  I don't
think it will help for extracts from the Ancetral File.  The IGI program
is available via anonymous ftp from hallc1.cebaf.gov with the pathname

/genealogy/paf/igi25535.zip

(igi25535 is not really a paf utility.  You don't need PAF to use it.  I
guess I put it in the paf directory since PAF is an LDS product and the
IGI is an LDS database.)

				Steve Wood
--

---------------------------------------------------------
Stephen A. Wood				       CEBAF/SURA
Internet: saw@hallc1.cebaf.gov		    Mail Stop 12H
Internet: saw@cebaf.gov            12000 Jefferson Avenue
Bitnet:   saw@cebaf                Newport News, VA 23606

Phone: (804)249-7367		Office: CEBAF Center C121
FAX:   (804)249-7363
From: minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [comp.ai.philosophy] unpublished chapters of "The Turing Option"
Followup-To: comp.ai.philosophy
Date: 26 Sep 1992 11:57:40 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
X-Original-Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy,comp.ai,rec.arts.sf.fandom,rec.arts.sf.science,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.cognitive,comp.robotics,sci.psychology
X-Original-Date: 25 Sep 92 20:38:27 GMT

Archive-name: auto/comp.ai.philosophy/unpublished-chapters-of-The-Turing-Option

I have archived two unpublished chapters of "The Turing Option" by
Harry Harrison and Marvin Minsky, published by Warner Books, August
1992.  Use  
  ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu  (and then login with name "anonymous")
  cd doc/minsky
  get option.chapters

These chapters have a lot of far-out ideas about how to build a
humanlike machine. Harry Harrison and I have been longtime friends.
One day he said that he liked my book 'The Society of Mind' and
suggested that the ideas could reach a larger audience if I wrote a
version in the form of a novel.  When I said I didn't have the talent
for that, he offered to collaborate.  We decided that the central
character Brian would be a mathematical super-hacker of the future who
would build the first AI with a human-like mind. Harry drafted the
action plot, and I suppled the technical stuff. While our hero is
building his robot (in the year 2023) he is shot in the head by
mysterious criminals who steal the prototype.  This lets us explain
computational aspects of the theory in the context of repairing
Brian's brain, while also explaining psychological aspects in the
context of reconstructing his childhood memories.

A co-author does not have complete control.  These FTP chapters are
part of the text I wrote that did not make it into the published book.
Both Harry and the editor at Warner thought they would slow down the
story too much.  At the time I disagreed, but now I think they were
right...
From: rjones@itchy.dsd.es.com (Ray Jones - Perp)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [rec.games.netrek] INL 3.0 on ftp.cis.ksu.edu
Followup-To: rec.games.netrek
Date: 27 Sep 1992 09:46:05 GMT
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
X-Original-Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
X-Original-Date: 22 Sep 92 05:32:01 GMT

Archive-name: auto/rec.games.netrek/INL-3-0-on-ftp-cis-ksu-edu


I just uploaded the newest INL server on ftp.cis.ksu.edu.  It's in
/pub/upload right now, but it will probably move to /pug/Games/netrek.
The files are INL.tar.Z and INL.diff.2.0-3.0.Z

One is the code from scratch, the other is a patch file for hte ntserv
directory to bring a server from 2.0 to 3.0.

This version has been tested somewhat... I've mostly been relying on
the fact that it has mostly worked before so it should mostly work
now.  The torps now fire like a real server, and you can't see people
during a pause (you couldn't before, unless it was before the game
actually started).  The length of the game is variable, set in the
.sysdef (defaulting to 2 hours).  And it builds on MACH OSes, thanks
to rwd's mods.

And various other foo...

Ray
--
                                          rjones@dsd.es.com
From: bulmer@hilbert.cc.utas.edu.au (Michael R. Bulmer)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [alt.astrology] astrolog 2.30 for PC is available
Followup-To: alt.astrology
Date: 26 Sep 1992 11:57:34 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
X-Original-Newsgroups: alt.astrology
X-Original-Date: 23 Sep 92 00:06:41 GMT

Archive-name: auto/alt.astrology/astrolog-2-30-for-PC-is-available


I have just installed a file astrolog230.zip on the anonymous
FTP server hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au (131.217.60.1) in the
directory pub/astrology. This archive contains a PC executable
version of astrolog 2.30 with documentation. Download as binary.

I've downloaded and unzipped it myself with no problems, but let
me know if you have any trouble.

Many thanks to Tad Perry (tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu) for compiling
and uploading this for everyone's pleasure.

Michael.


--
Michael Bulmer                              'I can't believe it...
Department of Mathematics                    You've actually found a
University of Tasmania at Hobart             practical use for geometry.' 
bulmer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au                - Bart
From: billc@Apple.COM (Bill Cockayne)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [sci.virtual-worlds] INFO: VR Sites list
Followup-To: sci.virtual-worlds
Date: 27 Sep 1992 09:46:20 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
X-Original-Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds
X-Original-Date: 25 Sep 92 18:10:39 GMT

Archive-name: auto/sci.virtual-worlds/INFO-VR-Sites-list



Here are some sites with VR related articles or code on them.
If you know of any other please send info to me at billc@apple.com.

sunee.uwaterloo.ca (129.97.50.50)
        /pub (misc directories on pglove, raytracing, et al.)
        /pub/vr

milton.u.washington.edu (128.95.136.1)
        - home of sci.virtual-worlds, huge faq w/ great info!
        /public/virtual-worlds

karazm.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.1)
        - home of the glove list, nice code
        /pub/VR

ftp.apple.com (130.43.2.3)
        - sites list, Macintosh vr, CAD projects info
        /pub/VR

sugrfx.acs.syr.edu (128.230.24.1)
        - virtual reality demos, iris info, glasses, mirrors some of
                milton.u.washington.edu, uforce info
        /pub/vr

src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.2.1)
                - great usenet archives including stuff from sci.v-w, also
                                has info on ISIS and a VR app for ISIS
                /usenet/comp.archives/auto/comp.sys.isis
                /usenet/comp.archives/auto/sci.virtual-worlds

Watch for the coming of an internet site dedicated to the distribution of
virtual worlds technology as well as a dial in BBS system.

bill cockayne
Apple Computer, Inc.
billc@apple.com

[Co-Mod (Mark): Tell us more, tell us more!  Similar efforts are underway
        at multiple sites, it appears.]
From: Andrew_Gilmartin@Brown.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [comp.infosystems.gopher] Sextant 1.0b21 available
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.gopher
Date: 6 Oct 1992 09:04:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
X-Original-Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gopher
X-Original-Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:16:59 -0500

Archive-name: auto/comp.infosystems.gopher/Sextant-1-0b21-available

Sextant 1.0b21

Sextant is a Gopher client for Macintosh. This is the second public, beta
release. Please send comments, suggestions, and bug reports to the author.

CHANGES

Sextant now supports telnet item under System 7. Currently NCSA Telnet is
used to open the connection. (Support for tn3270 is missing at this time.)

Sextant nolonger ignores Gopher items it does not know how to use. Instead,
these items are displayed in gray and are inactive. The user now has the
opportunity to search for a tool to access these items.

Sextant doesn't bother you about not having selected a printer.

Sextant doesn't open the first item found in a search result. Most people
found this too confusing.

Sextant and UMN's Macintosh Gopher server coexist on the same Macintosh.
(Very limited testing.)

Removed TCP debugging code. This has increased Sextant's speed.

Sextant now ignores '\r' when reading text from the network. This was done
to allow Sextant to talk with Gopher servers that don't correctly implement
the network end-of-line termination. (Users received a -23008 error in the
past.)

Imporved Error messages.

SOURCE CODE

The source code to Sextant will be made available early next week. To
compile Sextant you will need THINK C and the THINK Class Library 1.1.2.

AVAILABILITY

Sextant is available via anonymous ftp at

ftp.brown.edu
/pub/gopher/Sextant1.0b21.sea.hqx

--
Andrew Gilmartin
Computing & Information Services
Brown University

Andrew_Gilmartin@Brown.Edu
(401) 863-7305

-- 
Andrew Gilmartin                        
Computing & Information Services
Brown University

Andrew_Gilmartin@Brown.Edu
(401) 863-7305
From: g-kwok@cs.yorku.ca (Bernard Kwok)
Newsgroups: comp.archives
Subject: [comp.graphics.visualization] Radiosity Package Available
Followup-To: comp.graphics.visualization
Date: 6 Oct 1992 09:04:08 GMT
Organization: York University, Dept. of Comp. Sci. - Toronto
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
X-Original-Newsgroups: comp.graphics.visualization
X-Original-Date: 30 Sep 92 19:18:50 GMT

Archive-name: auto/comp.graphics.visualization/Radiosity-Package-Available

In case there is any interest, I have placed a simple public-domain 
radiosity package that I wrote for my masters thesis.

AVAILABLE AT:

The package is available at the following anonymous ftp site:

	nexus.yorku.ca in /pub/reports/Radiosity_code.tar.Z

This site will be changed to ftp.yorku.ca in the near future.

THE PACKAGE:

The package contains C code for a progressive refinement solution
using the following algorithms:

	Wallace (Ray-traced form-factors), 
	Haines (Shaft Culling), using automatric hieriarchical 
	bounding creation (Salmon 87)
	Chen (Progressive refinement with jitter hemicubes)
	A partial implementation of Hanrahans BF-Refinement algorithm.
	
Additionally, there are model preprocessors for conversion from
QuickModel and OFF formats, with geometric contraints of Baum's
91 Siggraph paper partially included; and a scene walk through program
with simple Gouaraud shading.

The solution can be run stand-alone on any Unix box, but the walk-through
requires a SGI 4D.

Please feel free to gripe, fix, or (hopefully) improve :-) the package.
I intend to update the package with some new techniques from this years
papers, time providing.

DOCUMENTATION:

There is some basic documentation provided with the package, as well as
explantations of the algorithms used in my masters thesis, also posted
at the same site in /pub/reports/Radiosity_thesis.ps.Z

Anyways, hope this package is of some use.

(P.S. Just a plug for the graduate program at York: The York CS graduate 
program is new, but up and coming. For those interested, more thesis reports
should become available at the above site. Current there is, in addition,
Edith Li's "Shape from Rotation" thesis presented at this years Vision
Interface '92 conference in Vancouver.)

Cordially,

	Bernard Kwok
	g-kwok@cs.yorku.ca
	Department of Computer Science
	York University, Toronto, Canada.