HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Zeos (and others) general flame
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:09:04 GMT

Sorry, I've just gotta throw my $0.02 in.  I just bought a 50 Mhz 486 OS/2
machine and feel I'm qualified to comment.  I'm lucky enough to live in San
Diego, turns out I can buy a system locally for much less than the mail
order price.  The prices in all the ads I checked vary wildly, closer 
inspection reveals they all have wildly different configurations.  After
pricing the components of my system everybody was around $3300 +/- $100.

So that leaves us with "what vendor do you go with?"  Well, I was down to
3.  After asking around one had a terrible reputation (they're the biggest
in town...).  On the second one (OEI computers) my sales guy had mondays
off and his replacement didn't have a copy of my quote.  I faxed it to him
and he said "Oh, thats wrong.  Total price is around $3900."  Guy made a
mistake somewhere but I didn't want to wait another day.  My company buys
from the third company and I heard nothing but good things about them,
they got the business.  This is Micro City.

As for slimey ads, most of them are.  So are TV commercials.  They lie.
They distort.  They mislead.  It standard operating procedure.  Live with
it and learn to use your brain to figure out what exactly they're selling
and what it will cost to get what you want.

Companies I didn't even bother getting quotes from?  Those would be the
ones who advertised 'math processor and 8k cache included!'.  I don't stoop
that low.

jim


-- 
Lawyers Creed:  What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.
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Jim Harkins                         [ucsd|uunet]!pacdata!jim
Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
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jhsegal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Hard Disks
From: jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Livy)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:58:17 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center.

Hi!
  I know this question was asked some several hundreds times,but please answer
  me again: What are all the type of Hard Disks,what are their features(speed,
  space,etc..),what is better,and how can I know (I don't have an HD yet)
  what kind of controller I have(for floppy drive,meanwhile).
  Thank you very much...
  Livy
P.S.:I bought my 286 less than half a year ago,and the controller controll
a 5 1/4" DD drive and a 3 1/2" HD drive....If this information makes a difference...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Most Crisp Monitor?
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:36:18 GMT


THAT IS NOT A DEFECT it is the shadow mask holder.!!! All Sony tubes have it..
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: roger@fenix.encore.com (Roger Denton)
Subject: AOC 17" .26mm pitch Flat Screen 1280*1024 Super-VGA Monitor
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:14:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Keywords: monitors

I am considering purchasing a system with an AOC 17" monitor as
described in the title.

If any of you own one and have any sage words of wisdom regarding
the monitor I would certainly appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks,
	Roger Denton

Encore Computer Corp.
Plantation, FL

roger@encore.com
uunet!encore!roger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: lrj@cs.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen)
Subject: Query: Quantum Quality?
Organization: Lab of Atomic and Solid State Physics, Cornell University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:52:05 GMT


	  'tis time to get a larger/faster hard disk in my system.
	Right now I'm looking at the Quantum LPS120A IDE drive.  Has
	anyone had any problems with them?  The MFM drive I'm using
	will go on the back shelf for the time being, leaving the
	Quantum as the sole drive in the system.  This is on a 386DX
	machine.

	  Anyone have any good/bad experience with 'em?

	  Thanks.

-- 
    -- Lew Jansen, N2KNV               lrj@helios.tn.cornell.edu
    LASSP/LNS Systems Manager                (607) 255-6065
    Station Manager: W2CXM Cornell University Amateur Radio Club
            "You can't fight in here, this is the War Room!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: g89s9112@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dirk Sturzebecher)
Subject: HELP !! how to find if the system has a CACHE ?
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Distribution: global
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:15:50 GMT

Does anyone know of an EASY way of determening if you got a CACHE in you
system via software ? Any chance to find out how big it is ?

Any ideas ?

Cheers, Dirk

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rice@mirage.rtp.dg.com (Brian Rice)
Subject: The Complete PC voice mail
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 02:06:26 GMT
Reply-To: rice@dg-rtp.dg.com (Brian Rice)
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.
Followup-To: poster

What ever happened to a product called the Complete PC, which
was essentially a very basic voice mail system which shared your 
hard disk with your PC?  (It may have also offered fax and modem 
capabilities, too.)  I don't know the name of the manufacturer, 
and a search through a Computer Shopper didn't turn up any ads.

Does anyone have any experience with this product?

Please send me e-mail, and I will summarize.

--
Brian Rice   rice@dg-rtp.dg.com   +1 919 248-6328
DG/UX Software Quality Assurance
Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, N.C.    
"Als ich von dir denke, strahl' ich wie ein Kernkraftwerk."  --Cynthia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry P Warren)
Subject: Standard Computer (and os/2)
Reply-To: hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry P Warren)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:58:01 GMT


I am trying to decide if I should buy this system for use with OS/2 2.0:

  Standard Computers - Windows Workstation Plus
	33 MHz 486
	16 MB of RAM
	64 k Cache
	15" MAG Monitor
	ATI Graphics Ultra card w/ 1.5 MB of VRAM and mouse
	210 MB Maxtor HD
	  tower case, windows/dos/Norton Desktop, fax/modem, and
	  choice of application (1-2-3, Ami Pro, Freelance, Paradox,
	  or Borland turbo c++) . . . 
	________
	$3250 including shipping

Has anyone had any experience with Standard that I should know about?
I spoke to a sales representative and he said that the computer was
compatible with os/2. If I understand correctly, ATI Graphics Ultra
drivers already exist, at least for some resolutions. I called Dell
and their quote for a similar system was $4214 :(

harry warren
hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: nichols@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: ISA cards in an EISA bus
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 18:55:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.201502.14568@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, dab@ubitrex.mb.ca (Daniel Boulet) writes:
> I'm about to purchase an EISA bus system.  I've heard that there are some
> problems that one can encounter if ISA cards are used in an EISA system.
> 
> What sort of problems could I run into?  I'm definitely intending to purchase
> an EISA disk controller.  I was planning on getting ISA cards for the rest
> (video, serial ports, floppies).

Daniel sort of asked the question I have, but I'll turn it around slightly
to make sure I truly understand the answer:

I can get an Adaptec 1740 EISA SCSI controller for a price considerably
better than for an Adaptec 1742 EISA SCSI controller with built-in
floppy control.  I was thinking I could just get a cheap IDE/Floppy
controller and disable the IDE part.  (For $14 I'm not beyond prying
out chips, if necessary.)  Does anybody have a feel for whether this
will work?  Specifically:

1)	Does the 1740 bios allow booting from a hard disk?
	(It's hard to imagine that it wouldn't, but I'd safer to
	ask before I've spent any money.)

2)	Will I lose the 1740's 32-bit performance due to
	the presence of an ISA card in the system?
	 (I'm not sure why this would be, but I've heard rumors
	that having even one ISA card in an EISA bus effectively
	trashes the whole reason to have an EISA bus in the
	first place.

Thanks in advance for any information,
Richard D. Nichols
Teradyne Inc.,  Telecommunications Div.
Phone:  (708) 940-9000
Email:  nichols@ttd.teradyne.com

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 1992 18:57:01 -0400 
From: Nicolas Alejandro Arauz <na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Info on Under-Ware Electronics

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with UWE (Under-Ware
Electronics).  They advertise in Computer Shopper, and the also sell
reconditioned computer equipment.  Has anyone dealt with this company
before? Could you recommend them or (not) recommend them?  Has anyone
tried their reconditioned equipment?  Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: reynolds@doppler.ncsc.org (Mark Reynolds)
Subject: 1.2MB Floppy on an XT?
Organization: North Carolina Supercomputing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:09:50 GMT

Can anyone tell me if a 1.2MB floppy can be installed on an XT(8088).

Thanks.
From: lum@dds4.uucp (Michael Lum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Which monitor?
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:36:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Dispatch Systems, Richmond BC

I can get the SONY CPD-1604S for $1199 Canadian
		OR
	    NEC 5FG for $1500 Canadian.

It's tough trying to find a place that has both side by side.

What would you buy?
What are the pro's and con's of each.

(PS: I had an NEC 3D and thought the screen was curved too much and
wasn't dark enough.)

Thanks a lot for any help.
-- 
Michael Lum                                        | dds4!lum@wimsey.bc.ca |
Digital Dispatch Systems, Richmond BC              |   Fax: (604) 270 9160 |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: Future Domain TMC-850
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 01:50:33 GMT

Should have come with Disk Maestro.  SW available from FD at a charge to
do darn near anything. 
-- 
Keith Smith          uunet!ksmith!keith            5719 Archer Rd.
Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
From: sc05@newshost.gte.com (Shih-Chio Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: monitors, was:Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro & Graphics Ultra +
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:42:17 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

In article <RFowler.341@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler) writes:
|> 
|> >Does anyone know about any monitors that can refresh this fast?
|> 
|> Idek Iiyama MF-5421A, has a max res of 1600x1280 (ni), as well as 1280x1280, 
|> ...
|> This is a 21" trinitron flatscreen monitor, here in LA the street price is 
|> about $2500.  I have one on order, but its not here yet so I can't comment 

I am using a MF-5421A.  It is a flatscreen, but not Trinitron.  I paid $2320
for it.  Only one minor complaint about this monitor.  It does not have digital
memory for the settings, as most other modern multisync monitors do.  So one has
to readjust the screen when a new resolution is used.  Then again, I do not
change the resolution daily.  So, it's ok.

I am following this thread because the Diamond Stealth (S3) card can only
deliver 1280x960 interlace with 16 colors in windows.  I am looking for a 
better video card to match this monitor.  Any one has any suggestions?

S.C. Chang
GTE Labs
schang@gte.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:23250 comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard:1639 rec.music.synth:14324 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:12157
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Music Quest MIDI with WIN3.1 <<--Not working!
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:35:10 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?

OK, so I went out and bought a 486/33 with an ATI Ultra card.
Then, I got a Music Quest MIDI card.
This is where the problem began. 

The card comes with a program called "easy8.exe" - a simple sequencer.
I got that working just fine.  I have the card set to default vals:
IRQ 2 Addr: 330.

I boot up windows, install the MPU-401 driver, setup to IRQ2/330.
I reboot.
I get an error message saying that there is a hardware conflict with
the MPU401 driver, please adjust hardware.

I exit windows and try to boot up "easy8".  It says "can't find hardware".

So, apparenly, something about windows is screwing up my settings or 
*something*.

I've already tried the LPAC driver, to no avail.

Please, if anyone can help me out.  I'd be quite appreciative.


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From: paul+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul J. Dujmich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Measuring Ram Speed (Correction)
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:30:50 GMT
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In a previous post, I stated that the 80 ns ram chip under test
should produce good stable data at it's output "in at least 80 ns".
I should have said  IN 80 ns OR LESS. Steve Tenbrink pointed
out to me that what I had said might just confuse the issue even
more, and I think he is correct. My object was to clear up
any confusion...not generate it.
Thanks for the correction Steve!

Paul Dujmich
From: jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: HELP: DIPs of C.Itoh 8510 RM???
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:50:54 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hi!

My friend is having difficulties connecting an old C.Itoh 8510 RM
printer to a Nokia MikroMikko 3TT with a serial cable. He doesn't have a
manual for this old printer, and we'd need to know the DIP settings.

Please e-mail at jliukkon@cc.helsinki.fi, thanks!

-- 
               Juha Liukkonen, aka jliukkon@cc.helsinki.fi
       University of Helsinki, Dept. of Paranormal Investigations
           "Trust me, I know what I'm doing." - Sledge Hammer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami)
Subject: Re: program to erase AMI BIOS passwd
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:39:10 GMT

In article <180i5aINN396@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> psb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jr Phillip S Buckland) writes:
>From: psb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jr Phillip S Buckland)
>Subject: Re: program to erase AMI BIOS passwd
>Date: 1 Sep 1992 15:00:42 -0500
>u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>
>>The problem solved, and I wrote a com file
>>to do this , if you can still boot from froppy
>>then you can use this program to change the 
>>checksum of cmos data, so next time when 
>>you reboot the machine, the computer
>>will say bios checksum error, and then 
>>all you previeus setup is gone include (passwd)
>
>	Looks like lots of trouble to go to.  On later releases of AMI
>	BIOSes, all you have to do to reset the CMOS is to press and hold
>	the INS key when powering up.  The CMOS parameters are then reset
>	to their factory defaults.
>
>
>We read the world wrong		| Phil Buckland
>and say that it deceives us.	| psb@eece.ksu.edu
>Tagore, from Stray Birds	| psb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu

But not password, otherwise there would be no security!


Peace and Prosperity!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro & Graphics Ultra +
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:11:28 GMT


I just saw an ad by Idek.  They have a 21" monitor with a 1280x1024x256
S3 board (by Helios?) for $2500.

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Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
Intergraph Corporation                                  
bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum
From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway CS1024NI = (!=) Mag Monitor
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:46:04 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Aug30.100035.20906@gibdo.engr.washington.edu>, bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob) writes:
|> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes:
|> | The Gateway Monitors are made by Mag Computronics. The other monitors
|> | ...
|> 
|>   My general impression has been that Mag monitors (15f,17f) have gotten
|>   pretty good ratings while the Gateway monitors are regarded as mediocre
|>   at best.  I would be surprised if they were the same monitors.

Well I have had my 14" monitor for about a year now, and I consider it
to be very good at all three levels (640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768)
I use the latter in windows. No problems.
From: a_millsbs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Help with AMDEK 725 Color Monitor
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:59:55 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

I have an AMDEK 725 color monitor.  I assume that this is a standard CGA
monitor but it cam with a 25 pin adapter and was connected to an AT&T 6300
pc.  We got the pinouts from AMDEK and put a standard 9-pin connector on
the monitor but when we connect it to astandard CGA card the horizontal
scan rate seems to be off?
  
If you have any experience with this monitor your help will be GREATLY
appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

B. Scott Mills
a_millsbs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: fjk4i@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Frederick Joseph Keith)
Subject: Bizarre M-Board problem on Blue Dolphin 486/33!!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:19:54 GMT

Got a tough one here...my Blue Dolphin "we've gone bankrupt"
486/33 has developed a bizarre problem.  I'll try to keep it
short, but this one is really strange!

Last month, I changed the battery that preserves the CMOS.
After I got the CMOS reset, I tried to do a backup to my
Colorado tape drive.  After much thrashing of the tape drive,
the screen blanked and gave me a "System Halted Memory Parity
Error 0000:1xxx" where xxx is some hex number.  This behavior
was unfortunately quite repeatable.  Dozens of tests later,
I've determined that when EMM386 IS installed, the system "self
boots" as the CHECKIT ram test tests the lowest 64K; if EMM386
is NOT installed, the ram passes exhaustive memory tests.  If
EMM386 is installed and the FIRST memory test run after boot
starts at 16K or above, subsequent memory tests (of the whole
RAM - 8MB total) work fine!  No matter what, the tape drive
fails to work, and always gives the "system halted" error or
just locks up the machine with jibberish on the screen.  I've
tried a different IDE controller with identical results.
Removing all other memory resident programs makes no
difference.  Rearranging the SIMMs makes no difference - the
CHECKIT program still chokes on the lowest 64K if EMM386 is
active and this is the first test run after booting.

Vital stats: AMI BIOS, ETEQ chipset, Maxtor 210MB hard drive,
8MB ram (1MB SIMMs), 486/33.  The tape drive is at the end of a
three drop cable with the two floppy drives.

Help!  If I can't figure this out, I may just give up and buy a
new motherboard...

Thanks in advance!
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: moncrg@iear.arts.rpi.edu (gregory d moncreaff)
Subject: Re: 3 or 9 chip simms?
Organization: the committee for asethetic deletions
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:04:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.074554.13187@rose.com> anthony.tekatch@rose.com (anthony tekatch) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 08-30-92 03:37
>What is the differrence between three-chip simms and 9-chip
>simms, and why do the 3-chip variety reportedly crash
>quite often under Windows?
>
>
>
>> USENET address: anthony.tekatch@canrem.com
>>FidoNet address: Anthony Tekatch 1:244:112
>>Call  Mohawk College Electrotech BBS (416) 575-2129  Hamilton, Ontario
>---
>   RoseMail 2.00 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363

the following is a reguritation of prior posts re this subject...

1 Megabyte 3 chip simms use 4 Megabit technology ... 

if your motherboard doesn't
support 4 Megabyte simms you can't use them reliably
-- 
gregory d moncreaff moncrg@iear.arts.rpi.edu moncrg@rpi.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: cab6944@usl.edu (Brasseaux Carl A)
Subject: Allur computers
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 02:06:00 GMT

I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has dealt with Allur Technology.
I'm thinking of buying a 486 computer from them.  I'm particularly
interested in their service track record as well as the quality of their
workmanship.  Finally, how good are their monitors?  Thanks in advance.
Please e-mail responses to cab6944@usl.edu.  Thanks.
Carl

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: holmes@cheshire.oxy.edu (Mark Holmes)
Subject: Re: PS/2 CMOS (?) configuration
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:54:32 GMT

  To change the setup info for a PS/2, any model (I believe), you need a
PS/2 Reference disk for the approriate model.  Get a copy from somebody with
a similar model (The ones for models 50/60 and 70/80, etc won't work), or 
buy one from IBM.  I think IBM would sell you one for $20-50, which is a lot,
but if it's the only way to help, then IBM wins.  
  I dislike PS/2's partially because of this.  My father's 50Z had CMOS
problems (the battery was loose) and the ref disk died as well, so
he had to call in a 'friend' to fix it for $100.  The friend claimed that 
several chips had to be replaced, but when I looked at it, there was only
evidence of a loose wire.  
  Anyway, I'll stop rambling at the cost of the global network :)... hope
you find something that helps.  If not, I'd be willing to help.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jon@chopin.udel.edu (Jon Deutsch)
Subject: Re: Gateway 15" monitor vertical bar problem. UPDATE
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:55:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.182720.9613@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:
|>So far, besides the Telepath, are the only problems people are having
|>hardware-wise with the monitors?


My 15" Crystal Scan works fine.  Just so ya know, there are probably
many more working CS1752s than not, but only the people who's don't work,
complain.  
|>Would I be safer not buying a monitor with a Gateway system and buying
|>locally?  How much do they drop from the system price without the
|>standard 14" monitor?  
|>

Well, I'm quite impressed with the clarity and brightness of the CS1572,
and for only $125 over the standard price, it's a bargain, IMHO.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: gretsky@sonia.math.ucla.edu (Neil Edward Gretsky)
Subject: Elementary question on choosing soundcard
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 22:33:44 GMT

I'd like to buy an inexpensive soundcard for a 386 box.
Is there an industry standard; is there a list of the 
usual questions; is there a list of recommended products?

Thanks in advance for any info. (email or post ok)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.databases