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From: georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: San Francisco's first scooterjacking
Organization: Meta - Software
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:32:40 GMT

In article <txd.727717667@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
>delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:

>>Today's Chron reports that the first scooterjacking (Honda Elite) occured
>>yesterday in the Mission district.

>In reality, I think that my first reaction in such a situation would be
>to bring up the revs, and drop the clutch.

> [ . . . ]

>If you react quickly,
>even if he actually does have a gun, he's going to have to get the gun
>out of his pocket, and shoot. The chances that he can actually hit
>something with a gun that he can hide in his pocket are slim.

     Actually, I think you're wrong here.  It's generally believed the biker
who died in Emeryville was shot as he tried to ride away from a hijacking
attempt.  (To summarize, some months ago a motorcyclist rode into an Emeryville
gas station and promptly collapsed and died from a gunshot wound.  The police
believe he was shot in a robbery attempt, and managed to ride as far as the gas
station.  The crime was unsolved the last I heard.)

     As someone contemplating a new ultra-desirable bike, I've been trying to
figure out a serious counter to hijackers.  Personally, I've decided running
is pretty risky.  Arming myself is probably more so, even without the legal
implications of using deadly force.  (Draw and shoot while he's getting on the
bike?  Sure, but what'll the cops say?)

     It's fucking pathetic if I'm afraid to buy a nice bike or car because
someone will steal/hijack it.

							George


-- 
----
George J Wu,  Superior Maker of Technical Snafus,  georgew@metasw.com
Meta-Software,  1300 White Oaks Road,  Campbell, CA 95008,  (408) 369-5400
Never be the first to believe.  Never be the last to deceive.  ---  Chess
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: what is "DoD # xxxx"?
From: mu@terapin.com (Mu Hong Lin)
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:13:31 PST
Organization: BBS

I'm new to this group.  What is this "DoD # xxxx" thing?

frank mu-hong lin
mu@terapin.com
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From: fester@etorofu.island.COM ()
Subject: Product Review: running lights
Originator: fester@etorofu
Organization: Island Graphics, Marin County, California
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:45:24 GMT

Note: not associated with the following company/product except for having
bought the kit.

I recently asked for opinions on installing running lights (front and rear)
on a BMW K75. I got the kit from Scooterville of Raleigh, N.C. Here are
my experiences to date.

I got the kits, and the instructions on both kits were for the rear assembly.
They had crossed out the word "rear" on one set of instructions, and wrote
in the word "front". After about 3 phone calls, they sent me instructions 
for the front installation.

Anyway, the lights are fairly easy to install. Should take a competent mechanic
about 10 -15 minutes (took me about 20) each for front and back. I'd recommend
slightly crimping the male portions of the kit for a snugger fit, though, as
recommended by someone via email. 

I've noticed people seem to give me just a bit more room in the rear now. 
Apparantly, I appear bigger. From the front, I *seem* to be more visible as
well, though that may be due in part to having inadvertantly adjusted my head-
light to a higher position. Oops. I'll get around to fixing it someday. In 
short, the kits seem to do what I wanted: make me more visible front-and-rear
in nighttime traffic. Cops haven't stopped me for having rear running lights,
though several people suggested they might. No cop I've talked to has said 
they knew anything about the lights being illegal, though some have suggested 
that it is, for the rear. 

Any other experiences with running lights appreciated.

Mike
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conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
From: marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us (Marco S Hyman)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding in the Rain
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:11:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: MSH Software, Hayward, CA

In article <1jo7q6$iv@agate.berkeley.edu> delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:
 > Yes, rain does produce extra
 > alertness and carefulness (at least in me). But, one thing I had forgotten
 > after being out of a car for so long is that in cold/rain, 3 sides of the
 > view out of the car are completely obscured....
 >
 > The rain makes it much worse, even if the person
 > bothers to look to the side or rear, they can't see anything through the
 > fog on the windows.

Different conclusions from the same facts :-)  My conjecture was that when
they can't see *anything* they dont change lanes -- into me!  Minor
(co-incidental) data point: For the first time in a few weeks, after three
days of no rain, I had someone decide to move into my lane on 880.  Saw it
coming several hundred yards away, but... you'd think an R80RT is big enough
to notice.

// marc
-- 
marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us -- pacbell!dumbcat!marc
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From: rmt@pioneer.net.com (Richard Tweedie)
Subject: Re: this morning...
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:24:11 GMT

Sounds like a bad connection.  Loose wire fittings or possibly a loose
nut on starter wiring.  Also could be the solenoid dragging due to 
cold temperatures on lubricant or affecting clearances.

Rich Tweedie
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: San Francisco's first scooterjacking
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:20:32 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <txd.727717667@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
}In reality, I think that my first reaction in such a situation would be
}to bring up the revs, and drop the clutch. Remember to have a *VERY*
}firm grip on the handlebars while doing this, in case the jacker isn't
}quick enough to get his ass out of the way. In the case of a small
}scooter, you may want to lower your helmeted head and use it for a
}weapon as you attempt to ride over/through the guy. 

The Honda Elite 150 scooter in question has no clutch, and no (and
I mean *NO*) low-end power. Absolutely not an option. Believe me,
I used to own one. It is ideal for short in-town commutes and for
tooling around the city in general, though.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721	KotB		'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
From: leighann@quetzal.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: First Bike Opinions
Date: 19 Jan 93 23:19:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan16.031623.22785@netcom.com>, thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) writes:
|> MSF: take the damn course.  They start you from 0, and have you
|> riding over 4"x4"s in 3 4-hour sessions.

Sniffle!  We never got to ride over 4x4s!  We only saw them in the video.  I been robbed!!!

	- Leigh Ann

----------------
Leigh Ann Hussey  
leighann@sybase.com           {sun,lll-tis,pyramid,pacbell}!sybase!leighann
DoD#5913                  AMA#624549                    AWRRA#23 (skidoo!)
'74 Honda CB360 "Fyrdraka"   			'81 Yamaha Maxim650 "Elhaz"
"I do not trust thee, Cage from Hell, / The reason why I cannot tell, /
But this I know, and know full well: / I do not trust thee, Cage from Hell."
From: kron@aiki.Corp.Sun.COM (Kenneth Kron)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: GoreTex over mittens was (Re: Winter Glove Report)
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:14:36 GMT
Reply-To: kron@aiki.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: aiki.corp.sun.com

Yeah I think I got the same brand but it feels pretty hookey wearing mittens and riding.
You lose some sensitivity to the controls and it's awful hard to shift while accelerating 'cause
of the mittens (you have to shift with the whole hand not just a couple of fingers).

It seems to work alright and I may get used to them but it does feel funy.


 In article 77255@apple.apple.COM, landon@Apple.COM (Landon Dyer) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.024238.2548@kpc.com>, hollasch@kpc.com (Steve Hollasch) writes:
>> c60c-3gi@web-3d.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:
>>     I've been wrestling with winter gloves for some time now.
>
>  i picked up a big pair of goretex over-mittens at REI just
>prior to the recent Inundation.  70mph+ winds will drive small
>amounts of water through them and onto the leather gloves, but
>otherwise they worked great (on the days i remembered to wear
>them...).  they were about twelve bucks.
>
>  my santa-cruz mountain friends are hoping i won't have to
>use them again in the near future... :-(
>
>-- 
>
>landon dyer
>apple computer newton team
>not the views of apple computer




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From: 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss)
Subject: Re: time to buy tires for the R100R
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:46:59 GMT

I have an ME-88 on my Nighthawk; it is sticky enough to grind pegs
at 40 mph, and still has plenty of center tread at 12K miles.  It
doesn't work well for protracted sport riding as it will heat up
and get slippery, but for <75% riding it works just fine.


-- 
Ben Sloss        Email: ben@osc.versant.com   Work: (415) 329-7500 x172
Quote:          "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Transportation: '83 CB650SC (straight roads) '93 CBR 900RR   (twisty roads)
		'91 XR 250L (dirty    roads) '87 Mustang 5.0 (wet    roads)
From: delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: San Francisco's first scooterjacking
Date: 22 Jan 1993 07:37:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Today's Chron reports that the first scooterjacking (Honda Elite) occured
yesterday in the Mission district. While cruising down the street, someone
stepped out in front of the rider, blocking his way, and demanding his
bike (I guess countersteering around him didn't work). The rider initially refused, but the jacker put his hand in his coat pocket and motioned as if
he had a gun. The rider gave up the scoot. An accomplice was waiting around
the corner and was picked up by the scooterjacker.

Geesh, i never thought I would be in danger on my 250


-- 
Lisa DeLorme                            
delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
                    Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Lane Splitting: a new twist
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:36:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.191047.6732@netcom.com> dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
>  Just another data point in the Great California Whitelining Discussion.
>If you're threading cages and one of them decides to hit you, it's
>your fault.
>  I was doing the careful whitelining bit, barely over ambient speed
>in stop-and-creep traffic, down 880 in Berkeley.  A space opens up to
>my right, and the guy to my left decides he doesn't have time for a
>signal before taking that spot.  So he broadsides me, and I go for a
>low speed face slide on the freeway.  My bike throws itself to the ground
>in a fit, spitting out bike parts, and I miss three Christmas parties.
>  The cops had to think about it for nearly a month, but they've decided
>it was my fault.  They didn't hand me a ticket, but it's me who pays
>for Mr. Excitable's right door.
 
If you kill him you won't have to pay him. Your welcome.

 
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From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding in the Rain
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:07:52 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us (Marco S Hyman) writes:

>A question, though, came to mind.  Is it possible that visibility is bad
>enough to force drivers to really pay attention to traffic -- even *seeing*
>those of us on two wheels?  Could it be *safer* in the rain?  I wont count

I wouldn't count on it!  What with the spray from cars, fog on the inside
of windows, and rain on the side windows I suspect there's a lot of cagers
out there who don't have a very good idea of what they're sharing the road
with.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
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From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Lane Splitting: a new twist
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:10:47 GMT

  Just another data point in the Great California Whitelining Discussion.
If you're threading cages and one of them decides to hit you, it's
your fault.
  I was doing the careful whitelining bit, barely over ambient speed
in stop-and-creep traffic, down 880 in Berkeley.  A space opens up to
my right, and the guy to my left decides he doesn't have time for a
signal before taking that spot.  So he broadsides me, and I go for a
low speed face slide on the freeway.  My bike throws itself to the ground
in a fit, spitting out bike parts, and I miss three Christmas parties.
  The cops had to think about it for nearly a month, but they've decided
it was my fault.  They didn't hand me a ticket, but it's me who pays
for Mr. Excitable's right door.
From: ptulsyan@ocf.berkeley.edu (Prawal Tulsyan)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: LEATHER JACKETS AT REDUCED PRICES !!!!!!
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:03:38 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu


	MUST SELL THE FOLLOWING LEATHER JACKETS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




1.)  Black Leather motorcycle jacket .  Men's size L/XL.  
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	of a spill).  Men's size L/XL.
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3.) Black Leather Overcoat/Trenchcoat with inner lining.  Below knee length.
	Includes a leather belt.  Men's size L/XL.
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			OR  call me at (510)-848-5646


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From: edge@well.sf.ca.us (Christopher L. Seguine)
Subject: WANTED 2 BUY: NINJA 250
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:57:51 GMT


Wanted to BUY:  Ninja 250
Ideal would be: Late Model, low miles, not raced...
email edge@well.sf.ca.us
or contact Chris @ San Francisco Video 415-227-0200
Thanx!
From: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM (Wendy Gale)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Motorcycle, Trailer, & Jackets
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:57:35 GMT
Reply-To: wgale@starchild.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: starchild



Motorcycle Jacket
	Black Leather 
	Traditional style
	size 38
	$60

Hein Gericke Motorcycle Jacket
	Black Leather
	size 40
	$200

1981 Honda CB400T
	10,000 miles
	good learning bike
	helmet & shop manual
	$600

Motorcycle Trailer
	Custom
	3 bikes
	Gas Storage Rings
	Metal Storage Box
	Registration current
	$700

wendy
(415) 336-5948
From: noemi@synoptics.com (Noemi Berry)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: San Francisco's first scooterjacking
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:13:32 GMT
Reply-To: noemi@synoptics.com
Organization: SynOptics Communications, Santa Clara CA

In article 727717667@Able.MKT.3Com.Com, txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
> 
> I guess that I *do* have to mount that shotgun scabbard to the
> Sportster... Probably front facing, for such an incident. 1/2 :{)
 
right, like anyone's really going to pick Tom Dietrich on a Harley
as an apparently helpless moto-jacking target!  though the shotgun
scabbard isn't a bad idea anyway, a la T2.

noemi
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
noemi@synoptics.com 						KotSBL
'83 BMW R65LS (NM)	"have bike, will travel"		DoD #443
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: c60c-3gi@web-3d.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Subject: Winter Glove Report
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:29:24 GMT


my share of the winter glove report.  

I bought the Difi Gortex gloves back in December, and yesterday was
the first time I rode in the rain with it.  While my hand were warm
when I was riding, and it felt perfectly dry, when I got home, I
found out the gloves were weighing much much heavier since all the
leather had soaked up so much water, but the inside, I tought was
dry (thanks to the Gortex lining under the leather I guess)

BUT, this morning, when I grabbed my gloves, it was still soaking
wet (I had left it out in my room) and when I put my hand inside,
it was a bit moist, and for sure not dry.

well, I paid something like 55 bucks for these, its pretty warm and
enough lining to keep me warm (at least in ba winter I guess), I guess
it won't keep my hand completely dry.  :(

my share of the winter glove report.

----Masa Karahashi
masa@ocf.berkeley.edu
"I think its time to change major"
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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: An amusing yet unpleasant little freeway moment
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:43:37 GMT

Well, the Maxim and I were just beginning to lane-split in 10-15 mph
traffic on 85 N at the merge with 280 when the bike began to choke
and cough and sputter. Try as I might, I couldn't get it back healthy,
and it felt just like I was running out of gas. But my odometer said
66 miles, and even with the crappy gas and longer cold-morning warmups
I still don't hit reserve until around 90 or 95.

By this time the bike was definitely going to die, so I maneuvered it
onto the bot dots between two lanes just in time for it to croak.
I decided to try to put the fuel switch on gravity feed to see
if that would help, but when I reached down the switch lever felt
wrong and wouldn't move in the right direction.

It was just at this moment that 4 things happened simultaneously:

1) I remembered that a friend had ridden the Maxim, and he hadn't
reset the odometer when he filled it up below Alice's nearly a month
ago, but *I* had reset it when I got home, expecting to ride it soon
and fill it up anyway. So I probably did just need to go on reserve.

2) I realized that the fuel switch felt weird because I had worked
so hard on getting used to riding the new Hawk that I was thinking
of the Hawk's fuel switch, which has different positions.

3) I heard another biker coming up in the lane next to me and slow
down, and

4) As I looked up to wave him on, since I was now pretty sure I knew
what the problem was, my glasses fogged over *completely*. I have not
worn glasses since I got the new Arai a couple of months back, but I
had bad insomnia last night and my eyes were far too irritated for
contacts this morning.

So no big deal -- I'm in the middle of the freeway at rush hour astride
a dead bike, and I'm blind.

I got going again instantly, though, and all's well as ends well.
Teach me to rely so heavily on that odometer, though; and I need
to drill myself more on the fuel switch differences between the two
bikes.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721	KotB		'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
From: timl@zulu.mti.sgi.com (Tim Layman)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR250RR for sale...
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:02:17 GMT
Reply-To: timl@mti.sgi.com
Organization: Mips Technologies Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zulu.mti.sgi.com

In article <1993Jan21.204929.18261@netcom.com>, shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
writes:
|> In article <txd.727488094@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> 
|> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
|> >mu@terapin.com (Mu Hong Lin) writes:
|> 
|> >>2. Is there a blue books thing for motorcycles?
|> 
|> Yes, but don't ask me where you can find one.
|> 

I found one in the local library when I was looking for a bike.

	Tim
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: this morning...
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:46:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.235743.3968@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60c-3gi@web-3c.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:
>
>here is where trouble began.  I pushed the started button and nothing
>happened, absolutely nothing.  Not even the clicking sound the starter
>makes when the battery is low.  Simply nothing happened, all the lights
>that was on stayed the same broughtness, so the load on the battery wasn't
>too high or something.  Besides, the battery is onyl 3 month old, and
>I had just charged it last week.
>
>what happned?  I don't think the temperture was cold enough to make the
>battery performance degrade so much that it won't start.  Besides, I've
>been starting my bike in the same weather since last week when I charged
>the bike.  And the puzzling part is, I don't think it was low battery
>since it just started after couple hundread million tries.

Sounds like a short. It probably won't happen again for a while. In the 
meantime, you can start looking for possible "suspects". I fixed a short by
wrapping my signal interuptor with in electrical tape: It was the only part of
my electrical system I could find that had a metal unit that could touch any-
thing else. So, look for anything that looks like it might be hanging loose.

Good Luck.

Mike
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Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Winter Glove Report
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:03:08 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer

I use a pair of ancient rain mitts over my gloves when it's real cold
or wet... I believe they are from Belstaff. My gloves stay dry and 
my hands stay warmer as the mittens minimize the surface area .

They're still available, I'm sure, but you may have to order them 
from Great Britain.
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