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From: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau) 
Newsgroups: nyc.test
Subject: RE: TESTING
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: ray.normandeau@factory.com (Ray Normandeau) 

-> "Yo." yourself!
->
-> But is anyone outside panix.com seeing these?

Here at Invention Factory BBS, 212-274-8110 I see it.

Ray Normandeau
Normandeau Newswire (J 5)
Invention Factory BBS, 212-274-8110
ray.normandeau@factory.com
If I don't acknowledge EMail to me I didn't get it
                                                                                                      
Newsgroups: nyc.test
From: wrolf@csfb1.uucp (Wrolf Courtney)
Subject: Re: testing
Organization: First Boston Corporation
Distribution: nyc
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:24:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.051608.6160@panix.com> kb7uv@panix.com (Andy Funk) writes:
>In <1992Dec30.024740.277@panix.com> ekh@panix.com (Ellen Key Harris) writes:
>
>
>
>>Yo.  
>>-- 
>>Ellen Key Harris  ekh@panix.com
>>Associate Editor, Del Rey Books	       		        |DEL|
>>201 E. 50th St., NY, NY   10022		       		|REY|
>>			
>
>"Yo." yourself!
>
>But is anyone outside panix.com seeing these?
>
>-- 
>    Andrew Funk, KB7UV                     Internet: kb7uv@panix.com
>    ENG Editor/Microwave                     Packet: kb7uv@kb7uv.#nli.ny.usa
>    WCBS-TV Channel 2 News                      BBS: 718-956-7133

Reading you 5 and 5.

Wrolf Courtney
First Boston Corporation
Park Avenue Plaza
New York, NY 10055

(212) 322-7017
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Newsgroups: nyc.test
From: ekh@panix.com (Ellen Key Harris)
Subject: testing
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:47:40 GMT
Distribution: nyc
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC



Yo.  
-- 
Ellen Key Harris  ekh@panix.com
Associate Editor, Del Rey Books	       		        |DEL|
201 E. 50th St., NY, NY   10022		       		|REY|
From: al.leung@factory.com (Al Leung) 
Newsgroups: nyc.test
Subject: TESTING
Date: 1 Jan 93 15:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: al.leung@factory.com (Al Leung) 

Testing One Two Three
                                                                                                          
Newsgroups: nyc.test
From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: testing
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: nyc
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:32:55 GMT

kb7uv@panix.com (Andy Funk) writes:

>"Yo." yourself!

>But is anyone outside panix.com seeing these?

>-- 
>    Andrew Funk, KB7UV                     Internet: kb7uv@panix.com
>    ENG Editor/Microwave                     Packet: kb7uv@kb7uv.#nli.ny.usa
>    WCBS-TV Channel 2 News                      BBS: 718-956-7133

Yup.

BTW, you're at my dream workplace.  I hate you. :)

--Aaron
From: mjohnson@rambus.com (Mark Johnson)
Newsgroups: sci.systems
Subject: nly does multiplicative scale changes.  Thus
Date: 30 Dec 1992 21:35:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

convert  Kelvin  to  Rankine, but not Celsius to Fahren
^H
:q
Newsgroups: sci.systems
From: cabobin@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC BOBINSKY)
Subject: Query, again
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Dec 1992 11:44 EST  

I would truly appreciate an email or snailmail address for Dr. John
Casti (author of Alternate Realities, et al) in Vienna.  Thanks!

Eric
From: meric@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Is there a chip to output x, for inputs sin(x) and cos(x)?
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:03:18 GMT
Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

I have sin(x(t)) and cos(x(t)) and would like to solve for x(t) in hardware.
I need to use both sin(x(t)) and cos(x(t)) as two inputs and x(t) is not
necessarily be a periodic function.

I know how to solve for x using discrete devices (differentation,
multiplication, addition, integration, or multiplying with a high
frequency signal, addition, PLL, etc...). I thought there might
be a chip that is already doing that. So does anyone have any idea?
Let's say highest frequency in x(t)'s spectrum is less than 100 kHz. 
I appreciate any information. 

Meric
meric@kronos.arc.nasa.gov


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Meric
meric@kronos.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
From: rduta@nyx.cs.du.edu (Radu)
Subject: Need so info
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 18:43:05 GMT

I was wandering if anyone knew the precedures for interfacing the phone-line
as in the specs for rings, normal line voltages, max ratings, etc.  If anyone
knows of any FTP sites that cary such information please let me know.  

radu
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From: pvr@wang.com ()
Subject: Re: PCB CAD prgs
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1992 13:55:52 GMT
 
2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ryan K. Brooks) writes:
 
>Hi!
>	I'd like to know what PCB cad (w/autorouting) prgs are available
>for free or at least cheaply.  Specifically I need to be able to handle
>a device with staggered PGA (one row on .1" centers, next row .05" down
>and indented .05", repeating).  I currently use BoardMaster on my Amiga,
>but it doesn't think much of this device :-(.   Something for MS-DOS
>or X would be acceptable.  Thanks!
 
	The freeware release of PADS_PCD allows you to define
part decals.   It may even have such a decal already defined.
PADS has schematic capture, board layout, autorouting and
an extensive parts library included in the freeware release.
It can be gotten from simtel.
 
These files are available via anonymous FTP from WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL
(192.88.110.20) or mirror sites OAK.Oakland.Edu (141.210.10.117),
wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4), ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9),
nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100), src.doc.ic.ac.uk (146.169.3.7) or
archie.au (139.130.4.6), by e-mail through the BITNET/EARN file
servers, or by uucp from UUNET's 1-900-GOT-SRCS.  See UUNET file
uunet!~/info/archive-help for details.
 
Directory PD1:<MSDOS.CAD>
 
PADSLIB.ZIP   B  488615  920212  PADS library for PADSPCB.ZIP and PADSLOG.ZIP
PADSLOG.ZIP   B 1081636  920212  PADS Logic schematic capture CAD program
PADSPCB.ZIP   B 1036461  920212  PADS PCB (printed circuit board) layout pgm
 
--
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Reilley ..... pvr@wiis.wang.com ..... KA1LAT <<<<<<<<<<<<<
                     Well, that about says it.
From: jmce+@andrew.cmu.edu (James Ryan Miller)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: PADS Shareware Installation
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:13:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.of_csQK00iUy83m1h4
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
 
 
    I've got a number of requests for the info on how to get PADS to
install, so here it is.  Any problems with this, just let me know.
 
                                        Ryan Miller
                                        jmce+@andrew.cmu.edu
 
------
PADS logic and PADS pcb manual installation
 
        Many people have had trouble running the install program for
these programs.  Then you must install the programs manually as follows:
 
1)      You need these files:           PADSPCB.ZIP
                                        PADSLOG.ZIP
                                        PADSLIB.ZIP
 
        make the directory:             /PADSDEMO
 
        unzip PADSLOG.ZIP into the \PADSDEMO directory, and copy the
file files.exe to logfiles.exe.  Then unzip the other two into
\PADSDEMO.
 
2)      Make the following directories: /PADSDEMO/LOGFIL
                                        /PADSDEMO/FILES
                                        /PADSDEMO/LIB
                                        /PADSDEMO/CAM
 
3)      Move the following files:
        \PADSDEMO\LIB.EXE       ->      \PADSDEMO\LIB\LIB.EXE
        \PADSDEMO\ULIB.EXE      ->      \PADSDEMO\LIB\ULIB.EXE
        \PADSDEMO\FILES.EXE     ->      \PADSDEMO\FILES\FILES.EXE
        \PADSDEMO\LOGFIL.EXE    ->      \PADSDEMO\LOGFIL\LOGFIL.EXE
 
4)      Execute the following files (they are self extracting):
                \PADSDEMO\PADS.EXE
                \PADSDEMO\DHLP.EXE
                \PADSDEMO\LOGIC.EXE
                \PADSDEMO\LIB\LIB.EXE
                \PADSDEMO\LIB\ULIB.EXE
                \PADSDEMO\FILES\FILES.EXE
                \PADSDEMO\LOGFIL\LOGFIL.EXE
 
5)      Okay, the program installation is done.  You must do hardware
setup still.  Goto the \PADSDEMO directory and run pinstall.
 
        That should be it.  I hope this helps.  Let me know if you have
any problems.
 
                                                Ryan Miller
                                                jmce+@andrew.cmu.edu

-----
------ End Of Summary -----X

I installed the PADS prg... its quite nice, but a little hard to get
used to.  I also have upgraded Boardmaster (for the Amiga) which has
added some important features, I haven't received the new disks yet, so
I am unable to comment on the new features.

Thats All!
 ----------------------------
 Ryan K. Brooks                        "You're never dead till you're        
 2575BrooksR@vms.csd.mu.edu                  out of quarters."     
 Marquette University EECE              
 NemeSys Corporation
 "Curtains for Windows"
From: wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Xmas light set with 2 levels of brightness
Keywords: xmas lights
Date: 29 Dec 92 03:48:40 GMT
Organization: AT&T


Another version of a variable brightness Xmas light set:
This set starts with a 2 blinker 35 bulb string.  First step is to note
which blinker is the first to start blinking (here called the more 
sensitive one).  Second step is to seperate one of the two circuits
from the string.  Now, you should have a single blinking light set with
half the bulbs of the original set. Use the less sensitive blinker for 
this circuit.
 Take about 3 bulbs from the removed
string and splice them in the above single circuit.  (This reduces the
voltage across each bulb some, increasing bulb life).  Now, take
the remaining removed bulb string and splice it across the more
sensitive blinker bulb.  And then splice this circuit in series with
the above single blinker set.

DIAGRAM:  orginal 2 way set

120v---+----*-*-*-*-*-*-b--!
       !---*-*-*-*-*-*-*-b-!
                           !
120rtn_____________________!

modified set for 2 level brightness:

      2                       1
120v--b-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-+-b-+-+
                            !   ! !
                 *-*-*-*-*-*-   ! !
                 !______________! !
                                  !
120 v rtn_________________________!

b1 is the more sensitive blinker.  Note that it will not have as much 
voltage across it as b2, because of the second string of bulbs in
parallel with it.  That's why the use of the more sensitive blinker
here.  Try several blinkers from other sets if necessary.


What you'll see when it's working:  powerup, the b2 string will light 
at full brightness, and b1 will be lit, bypassing most of the current 
from the second string, making them not light.  b1 will open, placing 
both strings in series, making the string that was out to glow at a 
low brightness, and the other string that was on before to glow 
at reduced brightness.  b2 will turn the entire system on and off, 
for a third state.

Be sure to wire and insulate the splices and cut wires in a safe manner!
Xref: sparky sci.electronics:21462 sci.energy:6404 rec.autos.tech:17107
From: vwp@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (mark.a.skala)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source ( And Other Sources )
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:49:24 GMT
Reply-To: vwp@cbnewsk.att.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Network Systems

Gee, this flywheel discussion is getting long and boring.  I think that
some of those who actually showed data showed how impractical it is at this
time.

I saw a film about 3 years ago which showed a car which had an 8hp gas engine
and used some hydraulic fluid transfer to store energy.  This was an
extremely good idea, and it worked.  I will try to get the details, but
this film was about how people had certain mind sets and how it holds you
back.  This car was built by some college, weighed about 2000 lbs, could
go 0 to 60 in 9 seconds and also got some ridiculously high gas mileage
(~80mpg).  This hybrid is a much better concept than regular cars because
it uses the small engine to generate energy even when you are stopped, so
that the energy can be used to accelerate quickly like a larger engine
would be able to.  Since you only needed 8hp to cruise on the highway (in
this car) the engine worked alone and got good mileage too.

IMHO this type of thing should be explored until we get much better solar
and electric technology.

(I'll be gone until 1/4/93)
Mark A. Skala                            "Please conserve paper; write on
vwp@cbnewsk.att.com                       all six sides before recycling."
From: stanb@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Stan Boyd)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:27:55 GMT
Subject: Old catalogs wanted
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: sci.electronics


I'm looking for old ALLIED catalogs, NEWARK catalogs or the like from the
1960's and early 1970's, for info on components of that era.  If you have
any that you'd like to get rid of, please let me know what you have  (if you
care to admit that you still have them around ;-).

Thanks,
Stan.               stanb@cup.hp.com

Newsgroups: sci.electronics
From: VBHARGAVA@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (Bhargava, Vipin k)
Subject: Re: stand alone UART ??
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:51:40 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

In <1051@vk2bea.UUCP> michael@vk2bea.UUCP writes:

> Does anyone know of a current part like the old Western Digital
> TR1863/1865. It is a stand alone UART, i.e. pin programmable
> with separate physical recieve and transmit sections.
> The 1863 appears in the 1984 Data book but WD now only make all
> singing/all dancing ones that require a microprocessor to talk
> to them (load registers etc).
> Michael Katzmann  

Could someone send me the info as well?

Much appreciated,
Vip

Newsgroups: sci.electronics
From: ldstern@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Larry Stern)
Subject: Cost of running a PC
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 04:12:12 EST


I'm sure this is a simple one, but somehow it eludes me.  I need to know how
much electricity my pc is using.  It is a 386 AT clone with a 200W power
supply.  I can find out the local rate for KW hours but how do I determine
how much current the pc (and monitor) is drawing?

						Thanks,
						Larry

Newsgroups: sci.electronics
From: jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: Re: RFI free dimmer switches...
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 05:16:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.063254.23524@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> alexander@kronos.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Robert Alexander) writes:
>In article <72415@cup.portal.com> dbell@cup.portal.com (David J Bell) writes:
>>
>>>But a light dimmer I have installed makes the lightbulb RING alot, and
>>>it's very annoying. The ringing gets worse when you dim the light. I'm
>>>wondering if a "RFI free" dimmer will reduce this ringing. Anyone know?
>>
>You might look more in the direction of using a full wave
>rectifier and a filter cap. If you take the AC out of it
>completely...It CAN'T ring.

At 120 V 60 Hz, the bulb doesn't make any noise. But with the dimmer
(triac + stuff), it does ring, and not at 60Hz (which wouldn't be bad)
but it rings around 2-3 kHz, which is ANNOYING (since hearing is very acute
around there).

I tried the rectifier, but it doesnt' work with the dimmer/triac in
place. :-( So if I wan't a variable voltage, efficient, solidstate
light dimmer that doesn't make NOISE, I'll have to scrounge for some
decent circuits that filter the harmonics. I'm not a power type guy,
so this might take some experimenting. yet another quick, simple
engineering fix turns into a deep learning experience!

>
>You'll wind up with about 140 volts DC and that through a
>rheostat should work on a standard light bulb ok. (I think).
>
140 VDC? I got 168 VDC out, which is what I'd expect from 120 VAC RMS,
minus diode drops.

>My $.02
>
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Xref: sparky sci.electronics:21376 sci.energy:6353 rec.autos.tech:17063
From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:40:14 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <72183@cup.portal.com> Ted_Eugene_Viens@cup.portal.com writes:

|>8 hp seems way low.  That can't be highway speed, I know of no practical
|>car design that would experience only 8hp of road friction and air resistance
|>at 55 mph.  But in addition, let's not forget:  hills, curves, rough roads,
|   So much deleted above it should make you sick...
|>
|If memory serves me right, Porsche technical literature  will show that in real
|life conditions on a flat road in still weather the 911 series cars require
|5 horsepower to maintain 55 miles per hour.  I would love to hear from some
|Porsche engineers if I am incorrect.

Not all cars are as aerodynamic as a porsche.  Now even in a porsche, if you
want to maintain that 55mph say in the rain and on a grade, maybe even going
into a headwind, you are going to need a lot more than 8mph.

-- 
Mob rule doesn't become any prettier, just because the mob start to call itself
a government.
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech
From: chuck@pierre.mit.edu (Chuck Parsons)
Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:54:00 GMT

In article <1htc3aINNek1@shelley.u.washington.edu>, whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John W writes...
>In article <30DEC199200153934@pierre.mit.edu> chuck@pierre.mit.edu (Chuck Parsons) writes:
> 
>>strength of the chemical bonds forming the material. 
>>Consider a thin hoop flywheel. Any flywheel can be thought of as being made
>>up of many such hoops. Let the hoop have a fixed cross-sectional area A
>>and the average mass of each atom in the material be M.
>>
>>  The energy stored in each atom of the hoop is E=.5 M*V**2.


 Rest of argument that any pratical flywheel can only store a fraction of
its heat of vaporazation deleted

>	Not a reasonable expectation, though, that in a FAULT
>the failure will always deliver exactly equal strain energy
>to all molecules in the whole danged flywheel.  A sensible 
>scenario is NOT going to be so obliging: a crack will
>develop, a fragment will whizz off (and through the 
>containment), then the remainder of the rotor will shake
>itself apart.  Not in molecule-sized pieces, but in large
>ballistic chunks.  Maybe large enough to have a THOUSAND
>molecules in a single fragment.
> 
>	That means that the energy absorption in bond 
>breaking will be roughly in the ratio of volume/area of 
>the one-atom and thousand-atom fragments.  This makes
>90% of the energy of the rotor available to do damage.
> 
>	If you want to get back the energy in the rotor,
>you'll have to argue why no chunks come off it, only
>individual molecules.  And, if the chunks that come off
>are LARGE, like bits of visible fluff, it's gonna
>be multibillion atom fragments that one must figure on.
>With a billion atoms in the chunk, the bond energy can
>only take 0.1% of the energy you need to absorb.
> 
>	John Whitmore

  I agree with every thing said above, I would only clarify that I
did not imply (or at least didn't mean to) that the flywheel will 
break up into atom size pieces when it fails. In fact my argument was
quite the reverse, there isn't enough energy to do that. I assume
that the small pieces of flywheel left will get quite hot due
to friction and impacts and that is where the majority of the heat will
go.  There will not be enough energy to vaporize more than a small
fraction (<5%) of the carbon composit rotor. Also implied in the
argument was that the total rotor(s) mass(es) will have to be substantial
 (>100Kg) _if_ the proposed vehicle is similar to a modern automoble
in size, weight, acceleration, and areodynamic and rolling drag. 
I see no reason it couldn't be 1 200kg rotor or 40 5 kg rotors

 Regards, Chuck@pierre.mit.edu
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From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics,sci.energy,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:30:14 GMT
Followup-To: sci.electronics
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <1h2vvbINNfm0@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
>ch.edu> <199
>Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
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>
>In article <72053@cup.portal.com>, lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman) writes:
>>Re. the exploding flywheel: I was mulling on flash-filling the
>>cavity with thick-setting foam, but I imagine that the response
>>time is way too long compared with the split of the wheel.
>>Comments?
>
>Even if the response time weren't too long, this "foam" would merely be yet
>another thing for the flywheel fragments to vaporize, and would almost
>certainly only exacerbate the problem.  Why do so many people have so little
>grasp of the amount of energy we're talking about, here?

I do not know.  Perhaps there are a great many people that have never
played with big spinning things.

Anybody ever see the mess when a clutch plate fails ( at 8000 rpm or so )
and does a good job of cutting a small car in half?  Has anybody ever
seen a saw blade ( 10" at < 10000 rpm ) catch a piece of wood and send
that piece of wood through a wall, and then through a door?  How about
a large ( truck ) wheel collide with a small car and total it.  Has
anybody used a potters wheel?  Has anybody ever read of people having
arms torn off by washing machines?

I think its different, though.  It is well known ( references a plenty
) that humans are not good at grasping and scaling non-linear relationships.
Take compound interest for example -- it seem like majic only because
of the way are brains are wired, not because it is special in any 
mathematical sense.  So, as a part of our biology, we dismiss these
types of scaling because they seem "impossible".  

Thus we get into discussions like this.  

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