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From: jorichar@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Joel Richard)
Subject: Re: fantasies 
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:27:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.203316.13359@afit.af.mil> jholtgra@afit.af.mil (Jeremy C. Holtgrave) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.141626.25092@walter.cray.com> nelson@eastrg1.cray.com (Christine Nelson) writes:
>>okay...
>>
>>what are some of your favourite fantasies?  (ie. unusual places 
>>for making love, particular scenarios, etc...)
>>
>>c
>>because everyone is always looking for 
>>new ideas
>
>While in Colorado last March I first heard the phrase, "Gondola sex".
>Sounded interesting to me!

Hmm, Interesting....if you can avoid the people. That's a main problem about
sex in public...no privacy! 

-JMR

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Religion (was Re: Together and other dating services)
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:42:25 GMT

ccaajmf@ucl.ac.uk (John Franks) writes:

] dh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (David O Hunt) writes:
] >The few dates that I received were nice, but among other things I am an
] >atheist, and without fail the woman they matched me with was more than a
] >little religious.
] 
] Religion: is it really that much of an obstacle? 

It CAN be.  It doesn't HAVE to be.  Depends on how each feels 
about someone who doesn't believe the same thing.  This is true
of people of different religions as well.  

If both people are of the "I have my beliefs, but I don't need
to require the rest of the world to have the same beliefs", then
a relationship is possible.  If, however, either of the people
believe that THEIR belief is the ONLY belief possible, then the
relationship will be strained at best.

The rest of the problem comes about if there are children involved,
especially if the two beliefs are VERY different.

] Isn't it possible to agree to differ? 

Of course - but religious beliefs of some people don't ALLOW for
this option.

] Almost against my wishes, I'm getting very atheistic recently; but
] my values aren't much changed. I'm interested because a friend of mine, who
] is much as I am, has had a pretty long & close relationship with someone who
] is very religious; but it did take them a long time to get off the ground.
] 
] Comments?

Yes - it's possible.  I've been involved with very religious,
very NON-religious, and all the way through the spectrum.  I
have found that it's easier for me to be involved with someone
who is NOT immersed in their religious beliefs - back even to
high-school friends who were exploring alternative beliefs.  I
don't deal well with ceremonies and the like, so passive 
belief systems are what I find most comfortable for me.

Diana
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: MoreIncrediblySageAdviceNeeded...
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:17:55 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Funny how one gets this odd grin on one's face while reading this.

I have a problem. Well several, but one in particular.

Met this girl I've known for a long time on Friday night. It turns out she
got hired at my favorite bar. I asked her if I could call her. SHe said sure.

Called her Monday. Asked her if she wanted to come to Twin Peaks on Friday
(the movie, not the town ;-)

She said sure... but she'd have to check to make sure she wasn't working.

Called her a little while ago. SHe still hadn't checked.

She works two jobs, so I figure this might explain why she didn't have time
to check her schedule at one of them.

I need advice.
Should I:

1) keep trying or 
2) give up?

Also if you think (1), can any of you think of anything charming I can do next
time I ask if she's checked? Bear in mind I'm sorta shy and won't do anything 
too elaborate (I'd die of embarrassmant (sp?))

Oddly enough, a couple of minths ago or so, the SAME THING happened at the
SAME BAR (except the girl I met that time I hadn't known from before), so
if this story sounds familiar, that's why. Turned out the last girl had a 
boyfriend ;-(.
Please send replies ASAP, since the movie starts on Friday, and it's Tuesday 
night. Please EMAIL any suggextions, I might not have the time to go through
this newsgroup.

Thanks!
Mike


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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@vccsouth10.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Part Two of "Dryads' Dailiness"
Keywords: Nymphette, Nympho
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:17:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.002635.11945@pony.Ingres.COM>, jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane) writes:
|> 
|> 	Oh, yeah... the above-mentioned lashing of the guilty does NOT
|> 	include you, my sweet TiggerVictor.  *hug hug* 8^)
|> 

  Well, not unless he WANTS it to :&) ;&)


-- 
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"Although the pen is mightier than the sword, I know which one I'd choose to
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Woman dating separated man -- advice desired
From: dayrton@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:48:37 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Aug28.163054.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, 
kmargelot@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>> Here's my question:  as I see the relationship, my friend is just
>> getting set up for pain, since both of them are rebounding
>> off of other relationships.  The other thing that bothers me is
>> that my friend is developing a pretty serious relationship with
>> this guy and he isn't even divorced yet.


> Dear Tom,
> 	It probably isn't the best solution to counsel your friend not to see
> this man. It might cause her instead to resent your advice rather than follow
> it. A better route might be to suggest that she be very (_Very_)careful. 

*Sigh*  True enough, but it seems that in matters of the heart "careful" is one
of those delicate balancing acts where one is trying to not seem cold and
remote and yet remaining "safe" at the same time.       


> 	 It could work out beautifully for them, however, and you
> wouldn't want to scare your friend away from something wonderful. 

It just might, but there will probably be hell to pay for all of them before she
gets there.


> Your best bet
> then, is probably to tell her that you care about her, want the best for her 
> and suggest she keep at least partial control of her heart until after
> the papers are filed and things appear to be progressing toward a 
> final conclusion. (Man, I wish ~I~ had, but then hearts are pretty hard things
> to control at times, I guess!) 

Like wild horses, damned near impossible to control, and just as dangerous.
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re:  Love
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:38:00 GMT
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA

In article <annie.02v0@canetoad.UUCP> annie@canetoad.UUCP (Annie) writes:
>Yes, feelings are real and sometimes 
>do not go away, but I find love in actions, not feelings.

What do you mean by this?  I took it to mean that you think
that if someone *acted* as if they loved you, then you would
see that as love (instead of devotion, nurturing, lusting,
etc.). It just sounds too much like a situation in which one
could be taken advantage of (ie. "used").


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From: pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Part Two of "Dryads' Dailiness"
Keywords: Nymphette, Nympho
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:59:42 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


Rip leeeers:
}>|> Would that be 'Nymphette', or 'Nympho'?
}>|> Dirty minds want to know....
}>|> rip

Tony proposes:
}>Nymph? Oh!!  Didn't think of that one (rip - 1, Tony - 0).
}>Anyway, maybe we should just vote on it :-)

Judi warns:
}  Hold it!!  Just what exactly are "we" supposed to _vote_ on??  Hmmm?
}  Even though I just recently unlurked... I get the feeling that my
}  reputation is about to be stained.  And NOT by my own doing!! 8^)

Hey, everybody's reputation gets stained around here every so often - and 
comes up smelling of roses every time (unless you're BDC/Blade/rip/LF who
don't want to...).  

}  --->  What about "The Official Dryad of the RFA"?  

I managed to miss the first part of the story (shortish expire time here), but
I got and enjoyed the second.  Here's a belated vote for membership and I like 
your choice of office.


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Joe cOOl,  PR Agent to 'Chelle
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:58:36 EDT
From: <SWF101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject:    Re: Friends First or Not

Regarding your question, I must say there is nothing wrong with 'dating' a
person.  I think that the word 'dating' is a short way to say 'getting to know
someone better'.  Dating should be the start of a friendship, and the only way
to become friends with someone is to spend time with them.  In order to spend
time with someone, you must set aside time in your schedule, ergo 'dating'. I
could not become friends with someone without 'dating' them first.
    I think you mean should you start a serious relationship with someone with
out being friends first.  My reply is an emphatic 'NO'. A serious relationship
should ideally come out of a deep friendship, a giving of one to another called
LOVE.  For if one cannot be a friend with the person who shares their life with
them, who can they be friends with.
    One can love thier brothers (in the biblical sense), but could you love
someone you don't REALLY know?  Try friends first, be patient and giving and
see what happens.  It may suprise you.

SCOTT
From: jml@cs.bham.ac.uk (Jane Littlehales)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: LJBF again
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:25:22 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Birmingham Univ. UK

From New Woman magazine, Sept 1992, p15

'Men are three times more likely than women to misinterpret friendliness as
sexual interest and are then twice as likely to think they were deliberately
misled.'

One reason for men to feel LJBFed more than women?

Jane
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LJBF again
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:11:48 GMT
Reply-To: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article jml@cs.bham.ac.uk (Jane Littlehales) writes:
>From New Woman magazine, Sept 1992, p15
>
>'Men are three times more likely than women to misinterpret friendliness as
>sexual interest and are then twice as likely to think they were deliberately
>misled.'
>
>One reason for men to feel LJBFed more than women?
>
>Jane

Come, come, Jane, a dodgy lightly-referenced statistic if ever I heard one! 
I'll have to check the article's own sources first before I accept it.
You should be in alt.folklore.urban with this! :-)

Still, it *sounds* so plausible, dontcha think? If such a gross
generalisation can be true (as if!), I agree it might explain the sexual
asymmetry of the LJBF syndrome though. :-)

I miss reading women's magazines for all this stuff though -- yet another
drawback of being RP-less. :-( 

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From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Looking for help
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:08:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.163805.25711@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, jorichar@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Joel Richard) writes:
> jholtgra@afit.af.mil (Jeremy C. Holtgrave) writes:
>>burger@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (The Rodman) writes:
>>>ejs@sybase.com (gator fodder) writes:
>>>>frank@rniwi.rni.sub.org (Frank Mogaddedi) writes:
>>>>>So tell me, what would be good ways to start?
>>>>>Or is the rumor right, that you'll never find anybody while you're
>>>>>looking? If that's the truth, I'm looking forward to a _really_ lonely
>>>>>future :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>So, dear netland, what are your opinions? How does one 'look without
>>>>>looking'?
>>>>
>>>>The rumor is true in my experience.  Whenever I went looking I was
>>>>invariably disappointed.  Eventually I gave up and decided to be happy on
>>>>my own, and I met someone almost immediately.
>>>>
>>I think the original poster has an important point, which is it is
>>possible to try too hard.  While there's alot to be said for taking
>>matters into your own hands, sometimes the best thing to do is just relax
>>and not worry about it.  The trick is knowing the balance between the
>>two.
>>
>>Jeremy
> 
> Someone once told me that before you can love someone else, you must first
> love yourself.
> 
> Be happy with who you are and don't pull yourself down in self pity. People 
> who see a person who is (so to speak) in love with him/herself will see the
> 'good vibes' that you have and they will be attracted to that. 
> 
> --Joel
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	Even then, there can be extreme cases of this (what you have stated as 
a requirement for a solid relationship.)

	I knew this one guy who was so in love with himself he couldn't keep a 
steady girlfriend.  Sure, he had a great body, but even the dimmest of the girls
he would get never lasted more than a week because they realized what a creep he
was.  (In other words, so in love with himself that he really didn't give any 
positive attention to them.)

	Since he was really muscular for a guy, they would all sleep with him,
but then realize what a jerk he was.  I can actually only feel sadness for him
because he doesn't really know what it is like to love somebody else, or to
have somebody else love him.

	Food for thought.

		Kyle
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: Wow.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 26 Aug 1992 11:37 EST  

In article <1992Aug25.203059.5952@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, cfar@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Carol Farquhar) writes...
>Don't you lust me anymore?  I haven't gotten any e-mail.

Well, Carol, it *would* help if you were more specific about who you are 
trying to entice to `lust' you ... :-)

> 
>Carol "do you think I'm sexy" Farquhar

Geeze, and you said *I* was fishing with my sexy-voice request ... :-) :-)

>Opinionated ravings are all mine!   

Bet you'd like to remove this part of your disclaimer just this once, eh ? 

:-)

Oh, and *yes* ... I do ... *both* of the above... ;-)

-- Stephen

	The smallest light offered in total darkness is a blinding
	beacon of hope.
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Flirting (was: Re: LJBF again)
Date: 4 Sep 1992 21:26:56 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zabriskie.berkeley.edu

dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) writes:

>I had a long debate about flirting with an ex-LJBF of mine.
                                            ~~~~~~~

I presume an "ex-LBJF" is a person who once LJBF'ed you,
but subsequent to that a relationship developed?
Or am I off-base here?

Steve
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: LJBF again
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date:  2 Sep 1992 15:03 EST  

In article <1992Sep1.181925.21853@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, cfar@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Carol Farquhar) writes...
>afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
> 
> 
>>	"Some people live their dreams, some people close their eyes.
>>	 Some people's destiny... passes by"
> 
>>					"I'll Be Over You"   -- Toto
> 
>What happened to your imagination?  Can't you think of your own
>lyrics?    :-)

Well, I *had* something but recent *BLATANT* overtures to this group for 
intimacy scrambled my brain... after all, I *am* afraid of intimacy... 
remember ? :-)

Don't worry, Carol... re: the song I took my .sig from ...

I'll *never* be over you ...

.. unless you *prefer* that position. :-)

-- Stephen

	"Some people live their dreams, some people close their eyes.
	 Some people's destiny... passes by"

					"I'll Be Over You"   -- Toto

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From: pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: The Shadowette....
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:27:13 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


[Farious (should that be ne(t)farious?) feline felicitations]

}More than glad to help, but I *do* have a question...are there any
}net.canines out there?  Cause if there ain't, then maybe we win by 
}default????  :-)

WE-ell.  Technically I'm the Official Snoopy, but I haven't done much in the
way of beagle-ing for some while now and to be honest I'm more of a cat-person.

Paul
Official Snoopy to the RFA
Joe cOOl,  PR Agent to 'Chelle
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tvechins@eng.auburn.edu (Toni R. Vechinski)
Subject: Shadowette is looking for......
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:38:03 GMT


Here kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty...........
Herrrreeeeee kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty.............

< A little whistling can be heard >
 
Here kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty...........
Herrreeeee kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty.............


HEEEEYYYYYY,  has *anybody* heard from CatGuy.  I mean, he was suppose to
convince me of something about cats and dogs.......

Hmmmmmmmm,  it seems he went out a few nights ago and has gotten himself
lost......Musta've gottin' in a fight with some TomCat.

Oh, well.  If you see that little pondering pussycat, tell him the Shadowette
is still not convinced........



             ........Mueheheheheeeeeee...................

     (Yes, the Shadowette's heart is once again filled with laughter...for
  she believes that...

         Man has never made any material as resilient as the human spirit.

                                             -Bern Williams

      The sinister giggling fades out and in the distance can be heard......)

Here puppy, puppy, puppy,......ooopppppssssss...I mean.....

Here kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty...........
Herrreeee kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty.............


                                   ...........The Shadowette.............


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*   Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connait point.                   *
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Opinion/insight- becoming friends with an ""ex""
Organization: Clark University
Date: 26 AUG 92 16:10:10 GMT

I'd guess this is a newsgroup without a FAQ, so I'll post this here...  This 
is a semibizarre thing going on in my life, and thought perhaps someone would 
have experience or insight into the situation...

Eight years ago (in high school) I dated a young woman for a year.  First 
serious relationship for each of us, etc, etc.  We broke up peacefully, but 
six months later got in a HUGE fight.  Never spoke again after that.

Several years later, a current friend of mine meets someone at a party.  They 
become friends instantly.  Turns out this person is the same woman I dated 
eight years ago.  As soon as my name is brought up (by my current friend, when 
realizing we went to the same high school), she flips out and stops talking to 
her.  

As it turns out, my ex is now engaged to someone that works with another 
friend of mine.  Through the link of common friends, I've learned she is still 
so uncomfortable with my "existance" that she doesn't want to persue a 
friendship with the woman she met at the party because she and I are (very 
good) friends.  Apparently, whatever happened years ago is still bugging her, 
to the point she still wants to avoid me at all costs.

I find this just plain wrong.  I don't like to be at odds with anyone.  I feel 
this is something "unresolved" that I would like to put to rest.  Bury the 
hatchet, etc.  I'm trying to figure out a decent way of approaching the 
situation, with a low risk of scaring her away (or getting our common friends 
very involved).  My goal is to bring a peaceful end of seven years of (what 
seems now like) a very silly fight.

Anyone out there been through a similar situation?  I'd be particularly 
interested in the point of view of one who did NOT want to be approached by an 
"ex", to get a better point of view on what she might be going through.  
Anything appreciated!

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