HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Betting on the Prez
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:38:21 GMT
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501

In article <PLUMMER.92Oct10131431@nutmeg.cs.swarthmore.edu> plummer@cs.swarthmore.edu (David Barker-Plummer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.013703.1651@nuscc.nus.sg> hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:
>
>CRP> : 	Anybody know what odds Ladbrokes are offering on
>CRP> : 	Bush/Quayle vs. Clinton/Gore (for the Presidential
>CRP> : 	election of course.)?
>CRP> :

>CRP> Are 'Mercans allowed to bet on this. If so waht are teh rates
>CRP> there?
>
>I am not a Mercan, nor do I play one on TV, but I do live in the US.
>Gambling is illegal in most places here -- the puritan influence and
>all that -- so there aren't any official odds.
>
>I assume that in Atlantic City, NJ and in Nevada (where gambling is
>legal) one could put some money on this.
>
Don't know about NJ, but in Nevada it's apparently illegal to take
bets on the presidential race. You can go to legalized brothels (in
some counties) but you can't bet on the next president. An interesting
sense of priorities.

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

He must be a Communist. After all, his name begins with a "C" and he
did take a short vacation to - horror of horrors - Moscow.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: Irish Rejects Associated (IRA)
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:03:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.150436.12502@news.nd.edu>, ulick@stravinsky.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:

|> Is your native tongue some
|> Inuit dialect, and does that explain your lousy English (and French)?

Living near Quebec ? how could you expect him to speak good French ?

david.
From: dpl@aber.ac.uk (David Philip Langstaff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Names of naughty politicians
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:21:41 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <1as44nINNeda@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.085104.29313@aber.ac.uk>, dpl@aber.ac.uk (David Philip Langstaff) writes:
>> In article <Bvn9y8.G1n@scd.hp.com> tim%hpcpbla.bri.hp.com@hplb.hpl.hp.com writes:
>> >
>> >I'm setting up a cluster of workstations and it has been decreed that the
>> >hostnames will have a theme.  The weenies around here want to name them
>> >after characters from Startrek (yuk).  To counteract this I've come up 
>> >with the idea of politicians disgraced by scandal (the more sordid the better).
>
>> I suppose that given such a network, you could always use Cynthia Payne
>> & Christine Keeler as servers.
>> 
>'Maxwell' as the print server?
>
I tend to think of the fat one as a print demon


-- 
Dave Langstaff | Janet:dpl@uk.ac.aber
Any views expressed are those of the author alone. | Phone:(0970)622838 
After-life, After-shave, don't hold with any of it, bleugh! - Sir Henry 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: Edinburgh
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:16:49 GMT

In article <henk.718532012@dutepp17>, h.jonkers@et.tudelft.nl (Henk Jonkers) 
writes:
|>cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
|>
|>>In article <BvrCJx.oA@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v064myby@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu 
|>>(Christophe J Quaranta) writes:
|>>> 
|>>> 	Can anyone tell me how you're supposed to pronounce Edinburgh?
|>>> Every Scot I talk to seems to say Edinboro!  I assume they're not
|>referring
|>>> to Pennsylvania.
|>>> 						Latre,
|>>> 						'Q'
|>
|>>	Try Edinburry !!! 
|>
|>To me, the Scottish pronunciation sounds more like "Enbruh".

To throw in my two pfennigs: "Eddhinbaddha"

where the "ddh" sound is a "palate-stop" sound and the "a" is pronounced as in
"charm". 

|>>Sandy Mackinnon
|>
|>Henk Jonkers      ( H.Jonkers@et.tudelft.nl )

       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
-F35- ZEUS DESY/Freiburg  Bitnet:   POSER@DESYVAX
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From: igb@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Translate Shakespeare!
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:42:51 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <1ases8INNbe6@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
> Have you ever read Chaucer?  Or Langland?

Yes.  My point is that when I read ``The Wife of Bath'' or ``The Visions
of Piers Plowright'' I have a barrier between me and the text that would
not have been present for a contemporary reader.  It's an old chesnut:
if someone writes in what was then ``natural'' prose, a later reader
sees it as ``unnatural'' because it is probably archaic.  It's true for
Shakespeare too.

I've just deleted my next paragraph because we've been through the whole
loop of authorial intent too many times already.  I recall Mike Godwin
and myself having this converstaion last year.  And it was old then.  In
short, can we attempt to discover the author's original intent?  If so,
should we strive to obtain the effect he originally obtained?  Should
language then be as transparent as it was then, or the same as it was
then?  I don't hold the first proposition to be true, and therefore
don't see much point in debating the rest.  But others might.

ian
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Cities with 7 hills (keep dreaming, Edinburgh)
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:57:00 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <92288.093308BERNARD@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> BERNARD@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Bernard BELL) writes:
~In-Reply-To: luchini@nhmfl.fsu.edu (Marco Luchini)
~>
~>In-Reply-To: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca's message of Wed, 14 Oct 92 05:38:1
~>In article <k7TmsB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
~>(Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
~>>
~>>
~>> Rome is the only city that I know of that has 7 hills.
~>
~>Tallahassee, FL, is also built on seven hills.  And it is much more
~>unpleasant than Rome.
~
~Edinburgh also has seven hills and is  much more pleasant than Rome.

Any city can be imagined to be built on seven hills if you're sufficiently
careful with your definition of "hill" (well, maybe not Cambridge). Saying
that Edinburgh shares anything with Rome is just as fatuous as calling it
"The Athens of the north".


-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

"Telling people how to think doesn't work. They always have stupid
 ideas of their own."
From: spinoza@next07wor.wam.umd.edu (Yon Bonnie Laird of Cairn Robbing)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Cities with 7 hills (was Responding to the Nick and Jon challenge
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:05:03 GMT

In article <92288.093308BERNARD@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  
BERNARD@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Bernard BELL) writes:
> In-Reply-To: luchini@nhmfl.fsu.edu (Marco Luchini)
> >
> >In-Reply-To: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca's message of Wed, 14 Oct 92  
05:38:1
> >In article <k7TmsB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>  
yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
> >(Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
> >>
> >> Read Revelations 17:7-9.  Quoting verses 9 to 14:
> >>
> >>  quote deleted
> >>
> >> Rome is the only city that I know of that has 7 hills.
> >
> >Tallahassee, FL, is also built on seven hills.  And it is much more
> >unpleasant than Rome.
> 
> Edinburgh also has seven hills and is  much more pleasant than Rome.
Cincinnatti is built on seven hills, and is IMHO quite pleasant.
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Edinburgh
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:57:23 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <henk.718532012@dutepp17> h.jonkers@et.tudelft.nl (Henk Jonkers) writes:
>By the way, something different, what's the correct pronunciation of
>the name "John Menzies"?

Ann and her parents (from Aberdeenshire, roughly speaking) pronounce it
as 'meanies'.  Though I have a vauge suspicion that that may be an
example of the same sort of 'cuteness' which leads to Ann referring to
W.H.Smiths as W.H.Smugs.

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Subject: Re: The Archers: a beginner's guide (was Re: Archers - FAQ)
Reply-To: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:01:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.185459.9573@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

> [various potted biographies]

	It's about 25 years since I listened at all regularly [and more
than 40 since it first replaced Dick Barton ...].  If your version is at
all correct, then there has been much re-writing of history.

In the beginning were
	Dan and Doris Archer.  Farmers.
	Their children, Jack, Christine and Phil.
	Jack is married to Peggy, and they run the Bull [local pub];
	Christine is vaguely "horsey";
	Phil is a Young Farmer, trying to drag Dan into the 20th century.

>Phil & Gill Archer. Corn barons.
	[I thought it was Jill rather than Gill?]  Phil, of course, famously
	married Grace Fairbrother, daughter of the local magnate, and killed
	in a fire the night that ITV started;  Jill is his second wife.

>Kenton (single). Dodgy antiques dealer, in partnership with Nelson Gabriel,
>          who is also a wine bar owner.
	and dodgy son of Walter Gabriel, old codger and friend of Dan.

>Tony Archer (Phil's cousin (? brother)) married to Pat. Organic farmers.
	Jack's son?  If so, Phil's nephew.

> [...]			    Jennifer (Phil's sister, social
>      climber; former adulterer.)
	Only if Chris has changed names.  More likely to be Tony's sister.

>Peggy Wooley (formerly Peggy Archer). Mother of Jennifer and Phil.
	No;  Phil's sister-in-law.

>Jack Wooley. Hotel owner (Grey Gables), local nouveau riche.
	Not that local;  an incomer in the 60's.

>Tom Forrest. Old Codger.
	Doris's brother, and [former, presumably] gamekeeper on the
	Lawson-Hope estate.

>Prue Forrest. Semi-mythical former jam-maker, now in nursing home.
	Formerly quite major character.

>There must be more, but I can't for the life of me remember them.
	Simon, Mrs P., Clive, John, Carol, etc., etc. left to others!

	There have been several books based on the characters, including
one based at the time of WW1, when Dan and Doris were getting entwined,
and which sets the scene for many of the characters who appeared in the
early years.

-- 
Andy Walker, Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
anw@maths.nott.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: antonson@software.org (Todd S. Antonson)
Subject: Driving in UK.
Organization: Software Productivity Consortium, Herndon, Virginia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:30:36 GMT

Hi,

I am going to England for a week in November and plan to get a
rental car.  Does anybody know if I need to get an international
drivers license and if so, where I get it?  I currently have a
Virginia (USA) drivers license.

Thanks,

--
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Software Productivity Consortium    |UUCP : ..!uunet!software!antonson
SPC Building -- 2214 Rock Hill Road |CSNET: antonson@software.org
Herndon, Virginia 22070             |
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From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Roy Harper a British singing icon
Keywords: Harper
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:28:27 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

RWG@buc.edu.au (Rod Griffin) writes:

>Could anyone tell me what Roy is up to these days. I have most of his LP's 
>but they are just about impossible to get in Oz. I would appreciate any info.
>Cheers,

By one of those strange coincidences, I just got some junk mail about
Roy Harper.

It would seem that there's a new record "Death or Glory" now out.
According to the flyer, it won't be available in the record shops
"because of the financial state of the record industry".

You can however order it from

Awareness Records
6 Vernon Avenue
London SW20 8BW

There's a CD, a cassette, a CD single, and a poster.

tracklist is

Death or Glory
The War Came Home Tonight
Duty
Waiting For Godot
Part Zed
Next To Me
Man Kind
The Tallest Tree
Miles Remains
The Fourth World
Why?
Evening Star
Cardboard City
One more Tomorrow
The Plough
On Summer day
If I Can


Disclaimer: I have no connection with Awareness Records or Roy Harper
(except that I did see him play at Stonehenge Festival in 1984).
the above provided for information only.

FoFP
From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Privatisation snippets
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:15:17 GMT
	<1bi0suINNfd9@fido.asd.sgi.com>
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
In-reply-to: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com's message of 14 Oct 92 20:45:18 GMT

In article <1bi0suINNfd9@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:

   If you believe, as Mr Reid seems to, that this is evidence that
   the share were offered "deliberately" at too low a price, you 
   have to believe that the directors of that company, whose share
   were being offered in the sale, were deliberately screwing 
   themselves.     Why would they do that?

Because those directors had already feathered their nests. After
privatisation, they all got ENORMOUS salary increases - by a factor of
5 in some cases - and most had generous share options and other
benefits on top of that. They knew that all these goodies waited for
them when privatisation was completed. They had no incentive to see
that the shares were sold at a fair price. In fact, the cheaper the
shares were initially, the more they would make by cashing in their
shares or exercising their options when the shares had rocketed.

   The final point to notice here is that Mr Reid is playing a
   Catch 22 game.    If the price of BT shares had remained flat
   in the last three years, he would have claimed that the Govt.
   had ripped off the ordinary men and women who bought them.
   Instead, people who bought the shares made a profit, so he 
   claims that the Govt. ripped off the taxpayers.

I see you now put words in my mouth. Too bad they are the wrong ones.

If the scenario you outlined occurred (or if the shares had dropped in
value), I would have been pleased if the government had got as much
money as possible from privatisation. Even though I don't approve of
this policy, I have sufficient common sense to see that realising as
much money as possible from privatisation would be making the best of
a bad job. 

		Jim
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Edinburgh
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:28:56 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <BvrCJx.oA@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v064myby@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu 
(Christophe J Quaranta) writes:

> 	Can anyone tell me how you're supposed to pronounce Edinburgh?
> Every Scot I talk to seems to say Edinboro!  I assume they're not
> referring to Pennsylvania.

Reminds me of when I was a 10 year old train spotter in Perth station,
50 miles north of Edinburgh, Scotland. A large male American Tourist
in very expensive new clothes which are too big for him leans out of a
railway carriage window and hails me. Like most train spotters I not
only knew the railway timetable by heart but which engines they were
likely to use.

AT: [friendly] Hey boy! Does this train go to Edinberg?

ME: It goes to Edinburra.

AT: Edinberg boy! I want to know if it goes to Edinberg!

ME: How do you spell that?

AT: [irritated] Goddamit boy! Can't you answer a simple question!
Edinberg! Ed-in-berg!

ME: You might not be saying it the way we say it. I've never heard of
Edinberg. This is the local train to Edinburra, which is 50 miles due
south. It stops there. It takes an hour. Is that where you want to go?

AT: [very slowly and loudly, as though speaking to an idiot] I - WANT - TO
GO - TO - ED - IN - BERG!!!

ME: [thinking of another approach] Do you want to go to the capital of
Scotland?

AT: [angrily] I don't give a damn about the capital of Scotland! I
want to go to Edinberg!

ME: If you spell it for me I can tell you.

AT: [very angrily] Don't play games with me boy!	

ME: [finally giving up] I don't know anything about Edinberg. 

AT: [very sarcastically] Ah! Now we're getting somewhere!

ME: You'll have to ask at the ticket office. It's over the bridge on
the other platform.

The American Tourist gets out of the train and marches in a temper
over the bridge. I sit down and wait. I enjoy watching the Edinburgh
train pull out before he comes back.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
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From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,talk.religion.misc,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french
Subject: Re: Responding to the Nick and Jon challenge (Re: challenge to DSY...Was
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:23:17 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

alisonjw@spider.co.uk (Alison J Wyld) writes:

>In article <k7TmsB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>>
>>Rome is the only city that I know of that has 7 hills.
>>
>
>Edinburgh has 7 hills - Glaswegians may think this is significant !
>
Cincinnati is also built on 7 hills...

 -Steve
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From: burgess@hri.com (Stephen Burgess)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Cities with 7 hills
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:20:06 GMT
Reply-To: burgess@hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

Bath in Avon is also surrounded by 7 hills, isn't it?
  
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Stephen Burgess,  Horizon Research, Waltham, Massachusetts, USA
Formerly of Surrey, England
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Some of my best friends are speculators
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:19:14 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:

>In article <26513@castle.ed.ac.uk> fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
>=>
>=>Perhaps you are now coming to the conclusion that it isn't a good idea to
>=>have the government running the Universities? Perhaps they don't invest
>=>the money needed to run a good University system? Perhaps it's time for
>=>the Universities to lobby for privatisation?

>But what will be the "product" that will be sold?

Graduates? Research results?

They might even increase the speed of the production line and let you
graduate sooner....

>Who will pay the
>enormous tuition fees involved?

The customer? Or, if as we are constantly told, an educated workforce is
such a good investment, the companies who want an educated workforce
might want to sponsor the product required.

>Who will pay for the research to be
>carried out?

Whoever wants it done.

>Who will invest in an enterprise with the prospect of
>a long wait before a dodgy payout?

errrr, Speculators! :-) :-)

>=======Jeremy Henderson===

FoFP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: pault@ossi.com (Paul Taylor)
Subject: Re: Service (or lack thereof)
Organization: Fujitsu America, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:32:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.153849.10605@osf.org> sp@osf.org (Simon Patience) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.132422.8171@sei.cmu.edu>, firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) writes:
>> USA is better than almost anywhere else.  Nobody smokes in my house, and
>> for the past three years nobody has tried - the shift of fashion has gone
>> from automatic light-up, to asking permission, to finally realising that
>> if the place doesn't smell of filth from top to bottom your filth simply
>> isn't wanted.
>
>[...]
>
>> How different from my childhood, when just about everybody smoked.  And
>> I had almost continual throat and nasal trouble; after an hour in any
>> enclosed public place my eyes would begin to water uncontrollably; after
>> two hours the stomach cramps would start - and, of course, everything
>> smelled vile.
>> 
>> On my last trip to Europe, I was taken to a high quality restaurant, and
>> halfway through the meal, a man at the next table lit a cigar.  I had to
>> run out of the place - it was either that or throw up.  It is very hard
>> for most smokers to understand the misery they inflict; I for one am glad
>> the habit is dying out.
>
>Although interestingly enough, I saw a report the other day that claimed
>that the propoportion of smokers is higher in the US than in any West
>European country. However the attitude is different and smokers in the US,
>in my experience, don't feel it their 'right' to clog up everyone elses
>air space, as opposed to this side of the pond.
>
>Simon.
>
>-- 

I have noticed a difference between California and other states in America,
as well as England. I too have noticed a shift away from automatic
acceptance. What I find encouraging is the way that smokers (in general)
tend to respect non smokers.

On one of the America talk shows there was a piece about an English
couple who boarded a train and proceeded to make love in the first class
compartment. It was only when they had the post-cotial cigarette that
anyone complained :-)


-- 
  Paul Taylor pault@ossi.com
"Sometimes you get the bear, and other times the bear gets you.
I think we have just been gotten"
From: alisonjw@spider.co.uk (Alison J Wyld)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Archers - FAQ
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:36:28 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

For the last 6 months or so, I've been getting myself well and truely
hooked on the goings on in Ambridge.  However I'm still a bit confused
about who is related to who and how.  I don't suppose anyone has a
family tree or anything for the various people ?

Yours hopefully

alisonjw@spider.co.uk
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Edinburgh
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:06:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: rdg.1992Oct8.180843.7791
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England


In article <26697@castle.ed.ac.uk>, cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes...
>In article <Bvt1t7.J2B@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
> 
>>>By the way, something different, what's the correct pronunciation of
>>>the name "John Menzies"?
> 
>>Mingus, but its hardly used. The John Menzie's bookstore is usually referred
>>to as 'Menzie's" or 'John Menzie's' locally.
> 
>Clearly you hang around with a bunch of Sassenachs! 
> 
Even Sasunnachs pronounce it "Mingus" when it comes to Menzies Campbell
the MP. My dad (from Haddington) always says Mingus, even for the bookstore.

Craig

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