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From: tgg31911@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Blazer)
Subject: Re: UCLA 3 Illinois 0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:47:00 GMT

baron@doc.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Baron K. Fujimoto) writes:

>While Illinois certainly deserved their victory over Hawaii at the
>invitational, I gotta say that Hawaii played pretty badly that match.  
>I think a lot of teams would have crushed Hawaii 3-0 the way they played
>that night.  They played much better the next night against UCLA (but 
>got crushed 3-0 again, but at least they made a more respectable
>showing).  UCLA, on the other hand was quite formidable, and deep.

Most of the people involved in the national volleyball poles agreed with this
opinions at least initially, as the Illini moved only from #15 to #12 in
the AVCA/Russell coaches poll.  With the victories over #5 Nebraska and #16
Colorado in the Illini Classic they won some more people over, jumping to  
#5 in the poll that came out today (Sept. 15).

Personally, I agree with what Illinois coach Mike Hebert told me in an
interview between coming home from Hawaii and the Illini Classic.  He said that
if the Illini played well in the Illini Classic (which they did) and in the
Reebok Challenge (formerly known as the Sportmart Classic) this coming 
weekend with matches against LSU and either Duke or (hopefully) Stanford, then
he would start saying that Illinois was a pretty good team.  I take this
sentiment one step further.  I think it's also important that they play well
on the weekend after the Reebok Challenge when they open the Big Ten season
on the road at Ohio State and at Penn State.  If Illinois plays well through
those four matches, then I'll be a TRUE beliver.


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Tim Gleason                                University of Illinois 
              tgg31911@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
    Official reporter for the No. 12 Illinois Volleyball team
From: 6500pdh@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Paul Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: UCSB tourney this weekend.
Date: 15 Sep 92 08:07:39 GMT

If successful, this will be my first posting.

I missed the UCSB tourney on Saturday, but I have a good excuse: 
The AVP came to Santa Barbara!   Kiraly and Steffes won 
(surprise) over Smith and Stoklos in the final.  This was the 
last stop on the tour.  They used an interesting trial format:  
A four-minute "rally clock" ran while the ball was in play to 
determine the game length.  Ties (2 of the 6 games I saw
were ties) were settled by a sudden death round.  The match was 
best 2 out of three of these games, with the third being only 1 minute.
The team that was ahead generally used sky-ball serves in the last 
minute or so.  After the match, Kiraly defended the format, saying 
you could watch once a year when the tourney comes to town, or several 
times a year on TV, and that the experimentation with the format was 
important to help bring volleyball to a larger audience.

All in all, it was great to see.  If you get to an AVP tourney, 
be sure to get in line real fast for the serving contest.  Serve 
over the net and hit one of several hula-hoop sized spots to win a 
free T-shirt.  If you get in line fast enough, that is.  

'Til next time, 
Paul Humphrey
From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Crutches--yes or no?
Date: 10 Sep 1992 12:23:07 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
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Keywords: injury treatment

In article <1992Sep9.225044.3383@wuecl.wustl.edu>, gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_) writes: 
|> All these things are important for the first day or two to prevent swelling,
|> after that, go for the healing. Letting your foot down can sometimes hurt
|> if your leg isn't moving because all the blood collects in your foot
|> instead of circulating.
|> 
|> With the proper treatment, I've recovered very well from a terrible
|> sprain (had to get it x-rayed; it was HUGE!). This was the _4th_
|> time I've severely spraigned my ankle and each time I get better at
|> treating it. Now, nearly 4 weeks after the incident, I'm ready to
|> play non-competitive volleyball. I can jump, run, do most things
|> fine. But, certain unnatural turns and twists of the ankle will
|> hurt. So I will immediately begin taping my ankle firmly to play.
|> 
|> 
I would suggest looking into purchasing an AIRCAST.  The AIRCAST is 
basically a splint formed to the shape of an ankle (L or R) with an 
inflatable inner lining for padding.  It restricts bending of the ankle
laterally while permitting rotation in the plane of the foot/ankle.  It
fits nicely inside a pair of low tops and provides much more support in
the proper areas than tape (its much easier to deal with also).

The last time I sprained my ankle I could barely walk for 4 days.  I 
borrowed a cane from a friend and was limping around with it.  When I 
finally got to see a sports medicine doctor, he gave me and AIRCAST.
I immediately put the cane away and was walking with almost NO limp.
I was playing again in 3-4 weeks (with the AIRCAST).  I tried to go 
without it about 2 months after the injury and NO DICE, it took about 
5-6 months before I could play comfortably without it.  This was 4 years
ago and I haven't had another ankle injury since.  Therefore I don't
believe that it weakened my ankle to use the brace for a few months, it 
only allowed it heal without being re-injured.  I know people with "bad
ankles" that wear them on both ankle all the time.

In summary, I highly recommend the AIRCAST over tape and lace-up ankle
braces.

BTW, my insurance company covered the cost of my AIRCAST.

Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge MA

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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: UCSB tourney this weekend.
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:12:40 GMT


I would appreciate any info from those of you who were out at the UCSB tournament
this weekend.  Specifically, any info on the Georgia Tech Lady Jackets.  They are 
a really young team and this is their first big test.

Thanks

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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 13:52:14 -0400 
From: "Zafrir E. Gan" <zg03+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: AVP Volleyball
	<1992Sep12.162727.18006@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>

To add further rumors,  this is the way I heard it from a dealer:

The original top-flite 18 had a seam because the bladder is constructed from
 two pieces, and after some usage, the stitching in the bladder starts to show
 through the leather (ie the ball does not shrink and expand evenly).  In the
 new AVP version the bladder is constructed the same way, except that it's
 turned inside out (think about it, it's possible) so that the stitches
are on the
 inside of the bladder.  This prevents the seam from showing, but at the
 same time dose'nt remedy the egging problem.  

If this is true I wonder where the extra money for the AVP ball goes? 
 Stylish blue coloring? AVP fund? Special bladder inverting personnel?
 mmm.


    \|/Zap\|/  ==>Happy Happy Joy Joy<==

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From: serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli)
Subject: Re: Outdoor net
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:53:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.000534.6474@NOC.Vitalink.COM> gosika@vitalink.com (Greg Osika) writes:
>
>
>You can't get much for $100. You may have to step up and pay
>$200...
>
>
>
>gosika@vitalink.com

You might want to try to talk to whomever organizes volleyball tournament around 
your area...I know that in the Boston area, some tournament directors sell perfectly
good used nets for about $150.

Serge
serge@ll.mit.edu
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From: Ed Davis <abepd@stdvax.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Perceived Perceptions Add On
Organization: nasa
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b3
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:24:02 GMT

Sorry, but I was interrupted last week when I posted.  I will now try to
finish my thoughts about how Non-Volleyball players view this sport.


>Volleyball unfortunately is perceived by the general populace as a
picnic game >to be played with all sorts of aunts, uncles, and various
sizes of nieces and >nephews.  Often times unskilled (read never played
the game) bodies will >watch a really good doubles or 4's game then ask
if they can join in.

The problem here is that the uninformed can watch volleyball and not even
realize that what they are seeing is truly skillful and/or athletic. 
Volleyball as a sport seems to be rated right up there with Yardarts or
three-legged-races.  (Gee I hope you Yardarters have your own group) 
Usually, these neophytes get the idea when a spike is whistled past their
noses.  I have seen some of these people really like what they saw enough
to learn about the sport and eventually become players themselves.

Volleyball continues to struggle out from under the perceptions of the
masses.  How often does one hear a sports announcer at a BBall or
Football game refer to the scramble for a rebound or the "tipped ball
drill" with something like: They're really playing some volleyball out
there?  I really hate that.

Anyway, I try to treat the uninformed with proper dignity, as I was once
new to the sport as well (More than half my life ago).  My friends and I
usually treat incursions into our domain with some class.  I have taken
some of these newer players under wing and taught them a lot of what they
know about volleyball today.  I really don't have too much of a problem
with new players wanting to learn.  I just wish that the general athletic
population would recognize volleyball as a sport and grant it the same
respect as they would basketball, football, etc.

That is all for now.   Be of good cheer.
Spankin'  Ed                                  "Show me a good loser
                                                           and I'll show
you an Idiot"
                                                                         
            Leo Durocher

email:    abepd@stdvax.gsfc.nasa.gov   <Goddard Space Flight Center>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: curtis@WJ.COM (Curtis Otaguro)
Subject: REQUEST: UH Rainbow Wahines Schedule
Summary: Request for schedule
Keywords: UH Rainbow Wahines
Organization: Watkins-Johnson Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:50:14 GMT

Would someone please mail me the schedule of games for the UH Rainbow
Wahines?  Thanks!
                                                        ...Curtis
-- 
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Sr. Electrical Engineer     Email: curtis@wj.com           ~~~ BOWS NO KA OI!
Watkins-Johnson Company     Pmail: 440 Kings Village Rd    
Single Wafer Products              Scotts Valley, CA, 95066-4081       
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: ckeller@denali.gsfc.nasa.gov (Christopher Keller)
Subject: Spiking
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 926
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:38:57 GMT

Spiking Summary


Reach for the ball!!
Don't run under the set, keeping the ball infront of you slightly helps.
Don't overkill it, a ball hit down is better than a ball hit out of bounds 
with force.
Get on TOP of the ball!
A good kill is the spike driven down.
Snap your wrist and hit the upper portion of the ball.
Keep the ball in front of you as you jump.
Follow through on the hits.
Don't jump to soon.
Don't jump to close to the net when outside hitting.
When using the bow and arrow technique for spiking, don't drop
your elbow below your ear.


I realize that this is an extremely abbreviated list, but this is the gist of
what everyone said.  If you need more specific info, email me again.


Sorry about this shortened list, but my lovely Sparc 2 decided to crash its
hard disc and I lost the file I was saving all the mail in.  I did manage to
get a print out, which is where this list comes from.

Chris



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: dld@cs.monash.edu.au (Rohan X Baxter)
Subject: Why doesn't anyone write to me
Summary: Why?
Keywords: Why?
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:03:14 GMT

My volleyball is actually quite good.

- Rohan.         rohan@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au 
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From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: Volleyball Monthly Tournament at Albuquerque
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:06:24 GMT

   Speaking of Volleyball Monthly... I haven't gotten my last issue.
Have any of you people on here, that receive VM, gotten your September
(the latest?) issue? Maybe my subscription ran out and they never
bothered to tell me to renew it.

   Also, is it THE Dan Hanan on here? National Team Dan Hanan? Cool.


                                         - Drummer -


Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: Re: Crutches--yes or no?
Keywords: injury treatment
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:50:44 GMT

] QUESTION 1:  After a sprained ankle, should I proceed without
] crutches (limping in discomfort but not pain), or should I borrow
] my friend's crutches for a few days.  I have heard conflicting
] recommendations.  Some say to stay off it; others say that after a day
] or two I should use the ankle (standing, walking, .... not playing,
] obviously).

I did exactly the same thing! Sprained my ankle (severely!) when blocking
back in mid-August. Crutches are unimportant, as long as you can
stay off your ankle, which you need only do for a few days. Walking
on it after a few days is good for rehab, and gets blood flowing through
it for healing. But it is critical to stay off of it for the first
few days.

] QUESTION 2:  Each day so far I have soaked my ankle in cold water.  For
] what period of days should I continue this?  Until the swelling is gone?
]  Only the first couple of days?

Cold water and ice are correct for the first day or two. Cold serves to
"shut down" the blood vessels in the area, preventing over-swelling.
After a couple days, no more swelling will occur. It is time to get
the blood flowing through the ankle for new growth and repair. This
is the function of heat. Actually, I've been told by doctors that
alternating heat and cold instead of just heat does a better job of
circulating the blood and fluids.

] HISTORY:  A few days ago I sprained my ankle when I landed on someone's
] foot after I tried to block.  The injury is not a horror story (mild
] swelling and bruising) but the ankle is very tender.  I will definitely
] not play for a few weeks (2, 3, 4?)
] 
] I have soaked in ice water, I have compressed, I have kept my foot
] elevated, and I have kept my weight off the leg as much as possible.
] 
All these things are important for the first day or two to prevent swelling,
after that, go for the healing. Letting your foot down can sometimes hurt
if your leg isn't moving because all the blood collects in your foot
instead of circulating.

With the proper treatment, I've recovered very well from a terrible
sprain (had to get it x-rayed; it was HUGE!). This was the _4th_
time I've severely spraigned my ankle and each time I get better at
treating it. Now, nearly 4 weeks after the incident, I'm ready to
play non-competitive volleyball. I can jump, run, do most things
fine. But, certain unnatural turns and twists of the ankle will
hurt. So I will immediately begin taping my ankle firmly to play.


  _____    "But you can't really call that a dance. It's a walk." - Tony Banks
 /  ___\  ___  __ ___   ___      _____________   gene@cs.wustl.edu
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 Gene Van Buren, Kzoo Crew(Floor), Washington U. in St. Lou - #1 in Volleyball
From: skato@leland.stanford.edu (Saul Kato)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: jump-o-meter
Date: 14 Sep 1992 19:40:04 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: skato@leland.stanford.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: gust

I have developed a couple prototypes for a device not-as-yet named (for now I call it
a jump-o-meter) that measures real-time force during a vertical leap.  It produces
an analog graph of force versus time in order to analyze and improve your vertical 
leap.  A digital version is in the works.  This device is obviously intended for
use by college, national, etc. teams during jump-training, but I was wondering if there
were any hard-core individuals or, say, club-team members who would have an interest
in a lower-priced analog version.  (this product was conceived during my own jump
training)  Anyway, if anyone has any comments or suggestions, they would be well
appreciated.  Thanks a bunch.

		-Saul Kato			email: skato@leland.stanford.edu
		 Physics			real mail: Saul Kato
		 Stanford University		 	   P.O.Box 14852
							   Stanford,CA. 94309
From: alee@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Volleyball survey response requested
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:42:02 PST

Hello fellow netters,
It seems their has been a lot of discussion lately about outdoor volleyballs.
Frankly, I'm surprised that so many people are hard core Top-Flite users, I
wonder if they've used the Mikasa Bech Pro or Tachikara Beach Head? These 
balls have not been out very long & I've seen very few around.
What I'd like to do is collect answers to the following questions about both
indoor/outdoor volleyballs. Please respond for indoor & outdoor if possible.

1. What kind of ball do you own?
2. Why did you buy it? (price, reputation, feel, sphericality (sp?))
3. How many kinds of balls have you played with?
4. Which do you rate as best & why?

I thought i'd take responses for 2 weeks (until 9-28-92) then correlate &
post the results.
Respond by followup/reply or e-mail as i read this group regularly.
Thanks for your support of this worthwhile cause.

alex lee



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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Womens' vertical
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:45:12 GMT

In article pjrpmv8@fido.asd.sgi.com, margi@indigo.mti.sgi.com (Margie Levine) writes:
>|Anyone know what kind of vertical a woman can expect to get as
>|compared to a guy?  I'm about 5'3" - what would be a good
>|vertical to target for?  
>|
>| - Margie
>|


Georgia Tech recently got a 6' middle hitter who can sky.  Her vertical is around 
26", which is great, at least that is what I am told.  Our other middle is 6' 3.5"
and she could barely get above 18".  So judge for yourself.
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*Peter Wung				Email:wung@ee.gatech.edu	   * 
*Electric Power Laboratory		Snail mail: 33787 Ga. Tech Station * 
*School of Electrical Engineering		    Atlanta, GA 30332      *
*Georgia Institute of Technology				    	   *        *Atlanta, Georgia							   *
*   	"Pass, Set, CRUSH!"...						   * 
*  	Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad for a short, fat guy.  		   *
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From: oski@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Ravi Narasimhan)
Subject: Re: What is the role of the U.S. National Team?
Organization: Stanford University Amateur Radio Club, California USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:18:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.000636.27709@ast.saic.com> dan@quebec (Dan Hanan x6326) writes:
>I may not be the best person to answer this, because I am a little bitter 
>about the return of all the veterans -

<---------- Lots of good points deleted for brevity ------------->

Dan,
I can understand (as much as any non-player can) what it must have been
like for you, Acosta, Schirman, et.al. to bust your behind for so long
and not get to go to Barcelona.  The net was abuzz prior to and during
the Olympics about the selection methods.

1)Do you know why Fred selected Becker, Briceno, and Sato instead of
you, Acosta, and Schirman?  I thought they were trying to make you a
passer at some point.  Hell, I think you could have set for them!
And, I am sure you have seen the letters to Volleyball Monthly where
people went completely nonlinear over Acosta being left home.

2)From your comments about the need for an indoor pro league etc, I get
the feeling that it is going to mean several years in the doldrums for
the National Squad while the whole thing gets off the ground.  I
recall Major League Volleyball died an early death due to a variety of
unseen pitfalls.  From what I read in Volleyball Monthly, the USVBA
doesn't seem to have its act together enough to pull off such a feat.
your thoughts?

3)Is Uvaldo Acosta any relation to Ruben Acosta and did that have
anything to do with the overturned victory against Japan?  {Paranoid??
Me?  Never.}

4)Just a general comment.  It seems sad that there is no indoor option
for up and coming U.S. volleyball players, either men or women.  I
think the beach game is ok, but I like the variety of the 6 person
indoor game.  

5)How much input does Fred have in the returning player policy etc?  I
know he reopened the door for the '88 Olympians but I had hoped that
was to stop the hemorrhaging and not a permanent solution for the
future.  

Finally tracked me down?  Heh, you can run, but you can't hide!

Hope to see you in Madison Square Garden.  It is only a stone's throw
from my place in New Jersey, the Volleyball Capital of the World (not.)


					--- Ravi
From: dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: question on terms
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:33:21 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message are those of an
	      individual at SRI International, and do not necessarily
	      reflect those of the company.

What is a line? What is a angel?

Thanks.

Derek
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