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From: "HOANG NGUYEN (PAUL) 765-9447/PAGER 237-3542 M/S RN2-18" <HNGUYEN@SC9.intel.com>
Subject: [joke]You Call This Living? (C. Banc and Alan Dundes)
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: HNGUYEN@SC9.intel.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:45:09 GMT

(post without permission)

-----------------YOU CALL THIS LIVING?  C. Banc and Alan Dundes--------------
----------------- A Collection of East European Political Jokes--------------
----------------The University of Georgia Press/Athens and London------------

	The Lord appeared one night before an old woman in Prague.
	-- I want to reward you for your pious and charitable life. I
	   shall grant you three wishes.
	-- I wish, said the old woman, that the eight hundred million 
	   Chinese would come to Prague and then go back.
	-- And your second wish?
	-- I wish, that the eight hundred million Chinese would come to 
	   Prague and then go back.
	-- The same?  What about your third wish?
	-- I wish, that the eight hundred million Chinese would come to 
	   Prague and then go back.
	-- Your wishes will be granted. But why do you want the Chinese to
	   come three times to Prague?
	-- Just imagine what the Soviet Union will look like after the eight
	   hundred million Chinese have passed through it six times!
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From: ltran@utah (Linh T. Tran x4900)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] PUZZLE: ngo^n tu+? (che^'t) ba^'t tu+?
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:32:28 GMT
Reply-To: ltran@dsp.lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

Nghe qua dde^` ta`i La~o DDam va` DDu+'c DDa.o Kinh, Vo^ Vi. be`n no'i:

	To^i xin bo? ddi ma` kho^ng ba`n the^m ve^` chuye^.n na`y .

	Vo^ Vi.
From: Anthony Nguyen <nguyenat@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL>
Subject: [LITTER] Loa.n tu.c ngu+~
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: @argos.ims.disa.mil:nguyenat@cc.IMS.DISA.MIL
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:48:55 GMT


    Cho' ca('n kho^ng su?a  - dda~ du`ng mie^.ng dde^? ca('n thi` la`m sao
                               co`n su?a ddu+o+.c nu+~a chu+' ???

    Cho' su?a kho^ng ca('n  - ngu+o+.c la.i nhu+ o+? tre^n



    A(n i't kho^ng no, a(n nhie^`u ddau bu.ng
            ^^^^^^
             dda^u


    Uo^'ng i't kho^ng say, uo^'ng nhie^`u mau dda'i
               ^^^^^^
                la^u

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: QuangN <Quang@telecom.com>
Subject: Re: TRO#`I O#I! SAO KHO^NG AI GIU'P -DO+?
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:12:43 GMT



In article <1992Aug20.145054.303@condor.navsses.navy.mil> ,
huynh@condor.navsses.navy.mil writes:
>Sa'ng nay co' ca^`u cu' ro^`i nhu#ng chu#a ai giu'p he^'t.  Thu#? la^`n
nu#?a
>va^.y...
>
>Ca^`n lo#`i le? chuc'c sinh nha^.t ba.n tha^n (la` con ga'i)
>
>Hoa(.c la` tho# cu~ng du#o#.c...
>
>$$$ Nha^'t -di.nh pha?i la~ng ma.ng va` ti`nh tu#' $$$
>
>Ca'm o#n tru#o#'c nhe'

If you're dumb enough to not know what toay, nothing will work anyway...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: elxc0191@ucselx.sdsu.edu (NGTN)
Subject: Testing ...
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
Distribution: world 
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:51:05 GMT

	This is only a test.  Please ignore!
From: vo@work.seas.upenn.edu (Al Bundy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: To Mr. Lyxuan...
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:54:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

>Ca'c Ba.n Tre^n Die^~n DDa`n SCV me^'n,

>Ho^m nay to^i vie^'t ba`i na^`y nha(`m mu.c ddi'ch tham kha?o y' kie^'n
>phu. go'p y' kie^'n theo le~ co^ng ba(`ng.
   ..........................................................

>Sau dda^y la` ba ba`i post cu?a tha(`ng Tra^`n Tha'i Linh!!!
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Tra^`n Tha'i Linh kho^ng bao gio'` go.i anh la` "tha(`ng Lyxuan" ca?.  Co'
nhie^`u ca'ch o^ng Lyxuan co' the^? vie^'t dde^? ba`y to? su'. gia^.n du'~ 
cu?a min`nh, nhu'ng o^ng dda~ cho.n ca'ch re? tie^`n va` ma'y nu'o''c nha^'t.
No wonder why "bacho" used the same style to talk to Lyxuan.

>lyxuan is Ly' Tru'c Vie^.t hay Tua^'n Z. Nguye^~n ?
>
>Linh
>

What is wrong with this?
O^ng Lyxuan a`, co' mo^.t ddie^`u kha'c bie^.t giu'~a o^ng va` o^ng Linh la`
o^ng Linh dda~ kho^ng du`ng nhu'~ng lo'`i tu.c ti?u, tho^ bi? nhu' o^ng 
thu'o'`ng du`ng ca?. O^ng ca('n nha(`n la`m chi. Ngu'o`i ta co' si? nhu.c o^ng
thi` cu?ng ta.i vi` o^ng kho^ng bie^'t giu'~ gi`n tu' ca'ch cu?a mi`nh.  
Anyhow, it is time to stop this kind of attack.  I appeal "bacho" to cool down
and stop your attack to Lyxuan (If things get better).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tnguyen@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Tuan-Loc NGUYEN)
Subject: co+` tu+o+'ng
Summary: chie^'n tra^.n dda~ ba('t dda^`u
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:10:57 GMT

      
>From: kien@xuan.sps.mot.com (Kien Banh)
>Xin ddu+o+.c u+/ng ba(\ng M2 t 3

O^` tie^'c thay !!! 
   Vo+'i nu+o+'c co+` tre^n , ba.n dda~ tu+. dda(.t mi`nh va`o vi.
   the^' tha^'t qua^n khi cuo^.c co+` va^~n co`n trong giai ddoa.n
   mo+? dda^`u .... :(((

x8 t 8,3     a(n P     


 _______________________________________________ 10
|x    |m    |t    |s    |tu  s|     |t    |x    |
|     |     |     |  \  |  /  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|____\|/____|_____|_____|_____|9
|     |     |     |    /|\    |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  /  |  \  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|/____|____\|_____|_____|_____|8
|     |p    |     |     |p    |     |m    |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|7
|c    |     |c    |     |c    |     |c    |    c|
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|6
|                                               |
|           ** Tinh Tu' Ky` Ho^.i  **           |
|_____ ____C _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____|5
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|C____|_____|_____|____C|_____|____C|_____|____C|4
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|____P|____M|_____|_____|_____|____M|____P|_____|3
|     |     |     |\    |    /|     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  \  |  /  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|____\|/____|_____|_____|_____|2
|     |     |     |    /|\    |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  /  |  \  |     |     |     |
|X____|____T|_____|S____|Tu__S|____T|_____|____X|
1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9

Be^n Tie^n:                          Be^n Ha^.u:
-tnguyen@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au        -kien@xuan.sps.mot.com
-tnguyen@uluru3.ecr.mu.oz.au

p8 n 5                               M8 t 7
m8 t 7                               C3 t 1
x9 n 8				     M2 t 3
x8 t 8,3    a(n P

p.s. n = ngang , t = tie^/n , l = lui

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: hxt0424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (   )
Subject: Tho+ Phan Va(n Tri.
Reply-To: hxt0424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:24:59 GMT

	-DN na^`y xin che'p hai ba`i tho+ cu?a Phan Va(n Tri. le^n -da^y, 
-de^? ba` con -do.c cho -do+~ buo^`n.  Ne^'u ba` con na`o kho^ng  thi'ch thi`
cu+' tu+. nhie^n  nha?y sang artical kha'c. 

			Tu+. Thua^.t

	Ho+n thua chu+a quye^'t -do' cu`ng -da^y,
	Cha(?ng -da~, ne^n ta pha?i the^' na^`y!
	Be^'n nghe' qua?n bao co+n lu+?a cha'y
	Co^`n ro^`ng da^`u ma(.c bu.i tro bay
	Nuo^i muo^ng gie^'t tho? co`n cho+` thuo+?,
	Bu?a lu+o+'i sa(n nai cu~ng co' nga`y'
	-Du+`ng  mu+o+.n ho+i hu`m rung nha't khi?,
	Lo`ng ta sa('t -da' ha' lung lay!

			Ca^u ca'
	Ngu+o+`i ho+~i Nghie^m La(ng co' bie^'t cha(ng ?
	Lo`ng ta y' ga~ -do^' ai ba(`ng ?
	Nu+~a ca^`n thu' vi. tro+`i tro+`i nu+o+'c,
	Mo^.t so+.i king lua^n gio' gio' tra(ng
	THao lu+o+.c -da~ -da`nh nga`n da(.m bu?a 
	Giang so+n to'm ro^'c mo^.t tay pha(ng.
	Xu+a nay cu~ng mo^.t lo`ng so^ng Vi.,
	Mo+ tu+o+?ng xe Cha^u bie^'ng no'i na(ng.

	Lo^~i pha?i tha^y ai cha(?ng lu.y ca^`u
	Sao ba(`ng thong tha? mo^.t ca^`n ca^u
	Do`ng nga^n tha? lu+o+'i da^`u tru+a so+'m,
	-Da'y bi'ch do`ng to+ ma(.c tha? ca^u
	Du+.a ba~i Nghie^m La(ng cho+` bi? tha'i
	Neo ga`nh Lu+~ Vo.ng nha('p co^ng ha^`u.
	Giang so+n the^' -de^? mi`nh la` the^',
	Sanh sa't quye^`n ta the^' bie^'t -da^u!


Tha^n
 -DN






	   ******************************************************
   	   *		  Du~ ho.c, du~ ngu	                *
	   ******************************************************
	   *	Chi' qua^n tu+? cu+?u cha^u la^.p nghie^.p,     *
	   *	   -Da.i tru+o+.ng phu tu+' ha?i vi gia         *  
	   ******************************************************
           *    Tha.ch kha? pha', nan -doa.t ky` kie^n          *
	   *	  Chu kha? ma, nan -doa.t ky` xi'ch.	        *
From: jnle@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (C.N.M.T.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: ** DINNER IN SEATTLE WITH JOHN LE **
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:37:44 GMT
Reply-To: jnl@ihlpe.att.com
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL USA

In article <10820.082033@haydn>, JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (** Tua~'n **) writes:
> HI ca'c ba.n,
> 
>   I've only received 2 responses, where is everyone?  Some
> concerns have been raised that if we eat at one restaurant
> and then go to another for karaoke, that there may be
> problems with finding enough seats at the second table.  Any-
> body else concerned?  This is a good point.  For dinner and
> Karaoke I know of 2 restaurants that provide this, Nha\ Ha\ng
> Vietnam on King Street and Pho*? Ba('c on Ranier.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's Pho+? Ba('c II on Rainier :))  Are you sure you're from
Seattle ??  :)) :))

> 
>   One netter suggested we have a theme for this dinner, what
> should it be?  Of course it is to welcome an out of towner
> (John Le from Chicago) but maybe we could all where hats or
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's C.N.M.T. thank you :))

I may bring a couple of friends with me too :))  Have we decided
on the date yet??  Saturday night or Sunday night??

> something so we could all recognize each other, how about
> making it "HAWAII NIGHT!" we can all wear  Hawaiian shirts,
> shorts and carry cameras around our necks so we can look like
> tourists.  Wow!  wouldn't we all stand out in a VN restaurant?!

Yuppp!!!  Fur sure ... ;))  people may think we're a bunch of ... nuts
too :)) :)) .... but I like it :))

> 
>   Get those votes in today!
> 
>          CANADA
>       __________________
>  ____ |                |
>  \  / |                |
>  |  \/* SEATTLE        | IDAHO
>  |                     |
>   \   ___________/ccccc
>    \ /   OREGON
> 
> TUA^'N (JOHN) SUTHERLAND  $
> SEATTLE, WA               $   JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@NCSUVM.CC.NCSU.EDU
> (206) 553-1142            $

See y'all soon :))
----
C.N.M.T.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: HNGUYEN@SC9.intel.com (HOANG NGUYEN (PAUL) 765-9447/PAGER 237-3542 M/S RN2-18)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [joke]You Call This Living? (C. Banc and Alan Dundes)
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:45:02 GMT
Reply-To: HNGUYEN@SC9.intel.com
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu

(post without permission)

-----------------YOU CALL THIS LIVING?  C. Banc and Alan Dundes--------------
----------------- A Collection of East European Political Jokes--------------
----------------The University of Georgia Press/Athens and London------------

	Two friends meet.
	
	-- Since you are working at S.P.C [State Planning Committee], maybe
	   you could explain to me what's the meaning of mandatory profits 
	in the dealings between the two government agencies.
	-- It's hard to define, but let me tell you a story.  A man is walking
	   a dog on a leash when he meet a friend.
	-- Where are you doing with that dog?
	-- I'm trying to sell it.
	-- For how much?
	-- Twenty thousand dollars.
	-- Are you crazy? Who do you think will give you twenty thousand
	   dollars for a dog?
	-- Well, I'm going to try anyway.
	
	After a while, the two friends meet again.

	-- Did you sell your dog?
	-- Sure I did.
	-- For how much?
	-- As I told you, twenty thousand dollars.
	-- Oh, come on, did you really get all that money for a dog?
	-- Well, not exactly, but I got in exchange two cats worth ten 
	   thousand dollars each.
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From: lyxuan@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] Co' ke? -da'i trong qua^`n !
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:18:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: sscvx1.1992Aug13.161834.1
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory

In article <1992Aug13.171733.16081@news.media.mit.edu>, t890235@lrc.edu writes:

U?a!! Nu+?a dde^m vu+.c dde^m co' cho' nha` ai su?a va^.y ca`???

> Ky` na`y thi` Handsome Stranger -da'i trong qua^`n ro^`i !

Va?i dda'i ra qua^`n la` chuye^.n thu+o+`ng! Mo^.t to^ ru+.a ma^.n
no'ng ho^?i kho'i tho+m bay nghi ngu't! co^.ng the^m mo^.t ddi?a ta^y
cho' luo^.c vo+'i la' mo+! Co^.ng the^m 2 ke't Budweiser va` mo^.t
chai Re'my...Thi` ho?i thu+? xem tha(`ng na`o ma` kho^ng va?i dda'i 
cho ddu+o+.c!!!  DDa? la('m chu'ng bay o+i!!! Xu+.c pha`n!!!!!!

> Nho+' thay qua^`n nha', co`n kho^ng la` "ca^`n ca^u"

DDu+`ng co' lo!!! Bo.n na^`y ba^.n qua^`n kho^ng ddu?ng!! 
Ngo^`i nha^.u vu+` thoa?i ma'i vu+`a ma't me? !! DDu+'a
na`o muo^'n ddu+o+.c ma't ma('t thi` cu+' tu+. do nho`m!!!

> bi. "me^`m" ro^`i "teo" la.i -da^'y.

Cu+'ng nhu+ ddinh!! Da^?u cho con ta^`u co' rung rinh!!!

> 

Ky` na^`y to^i se? la`m 2 con cho' Vie^.t Nam lai ta^y(ddo' la` cho' 
Vie^.t Nam ddu+o+.c nuo^i o+? be^n My? va` Si` Co.t Len....)  Cho' be'o
a(n nga^.y, tuy kho^ng ddu+o+.c ngon cho la('m nhu+ng va~ qu'a thi` a(n
cho ddo+? the`m... To^i se? thu? vai ca.o lo^ng!!! Co' tay na`o gio?i 
ca('t tie^'t thi` cu+' nha`o vo^!!! Co' la`m thi` mo+'i co' a(n chu+'!!

P.S. Co`n nhu+?ng con co' ghe? kha'c hay su?a theo dda`n thi` kho^ng co'
ma^`n to+'i...A(n thu+' dda^'y vo^ mo'c ho.ng che^'t tu+o+i!! Vi` chu'ng
bi. hu?i tu+` trong pha't ra!!! Tai ha.i la('m la('m!!!!!

HandsomeStranger..........
From: colx0021@steer.sdsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Tester
Date: 21 Aug 1992 17:42:18 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
From: hieuan@sydog.East.Sun.COM (Hieu Thuan An)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [MISC] sending a photocopy maching to VN
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:05:37 GMT
Reply-To: hieuan@sydog.East.Sun.COM (Hieu Thuan An)
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sydog.east.sun.com


   Hi Netters,

   I heard that US government has allowed to send some basic technical
   equipments to VN. I was recently asked by my family to send home a
   small and simple photocopy machine. I wonder if I can do that without
   violating the law.
   Any netter who has good background in embargo law please let me
   know. Your help in any way is very appreciated.

   BTW: This machine is used for a pure religion reason, so please 
   hold your fire.

   Thanks a bunch

   Hieu  

 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: hxt0424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (   )
Subject: re: [LIT] Loa.n Tu.c Ngu+~
Reply-To: hxt0424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:10:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.155008.21468@news.media.mit.edu>, gt4030a@prism.gatech.edu (Tu*' Phu*o*ng) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >>          - Co+m hu+ ta.i ga.o, cha'o hu+ ta.i no^`i
>> >
>> >>          - Mu+u su+. ta.i anh, tha`nh su+. ta.i tui
>> >
>> >
>> >>     Hoa(.c la`
>> >
>> >>          - Hu+ su+. ta.i anh, tha`nh su+. ta.i tui
>> >
>> 
>> >   Co' co^ng ma`i dda' co' nga`y ne^n bi
>>                               - TXV -
>> 
>> 
>>          - Co' co^ng chi`u ga'i, co' nga`y le^n xe bo^ng
>> 
>> 
>>     Nhu+ng cu~ng co' ca^u:
>> 
>>           - Cu+' theo cho.c ga'i, co' nga`y a(n dao phay    :-)
>> 
>> 
>      Co\n nu+?a....
>
>		- Ra co^ng cu+ng vo+., co' con ma\ bo^\ng
>		  TP
>	Thua^.n vo+., thua^.n cho^`ng .... giu+o+`ng sa('t cu~ng gay~...
			-DN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: chu@hubcap.clemson.edu (tien chu)
Subject: Re: tho+++++
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: chu@hubcap.clemson.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:30:13 GMT


>
>>>Ye^u em dda^u bie^'t dde^? dda^u
>>>Dde^? ngay lo^~ mui~ la^u la^u ha('t xi`:
>
>>Ye^u em kho^ng bie^'t la`m chi
>>Ca`y the^m 2 jobs (em) muo^'n gi` (anh) cu~ng cho! heehee
>
>Ye^u em kho^ng bie^'t dde^~ dda^u
>DDe^~ tre^n dda^`u su'ng la^u la^u anh bo'p co`  

Ie^u em cha(?ng bie^'t -de^? -da^u
-De^? trong tu'i a'o la^u la^u ( anh ) ki' -da^`u ... o(^_^)o ... heehee
From: tin@smsc.sony.com (Le Tin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [ADMIN] Anon FTP at sonygate
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:43:50 GMT
Organization: Sony Microsystems Corp, San Jose, CA

Hello everyone,

  Remember the warning I gave several months back about sonygate
going away.  We are in the conversion process at the moment.  In
about 4 weeks, sonygate's functions will be transfer to Sony
Corporate Network group.  Sonygate will effectively disappear in 6
weeks.  (or rather the machine currently being sonygate will be
retired).

  What does this mean?  It means that the security policies on
sonygate will be much stricter.  Anonymous ftp to sonygate will
most likely not be allow.

  The Viet archive on sonygate is duplicated by the mailserver at
Saigon.COM  It will not be as convenient to get files from it with
the anon ftp capability gone.  But the archive is still available.

  This brings up a point that need to be address soon.  The number of
Vietnamese with access to the network is increasing, and along with
it the need for a place to provide information archival, network,
and email supports.  Up till now, I have been providing archival and
other services out of my own time and resources (plus using Sony's,
which is not a good thing to do).  This is only a short term solution
that now must be solve.  I have some ideas about what need to be
done.  I would like to hear others' ideas first before implementing
mine.  Please feel free to voice your ideas.

  I only ask that you also email me as I no longer have time to read
SCV.  Thanks.

Regards,
Tin Le
-- 
.----------------------------------------------------------------------
. Tin Le                    Work Internet: tin@smsc.Sony.COM
. Sony Microsystems
. Office: (408) 944-4157     Other Internet Addr: tin@szebra.Saigon.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Anthony Nguyen <nguyenat@CC.IMS.DISA.MIL>
Subject: [MISC] Thought for the day
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: @argos.ims.disa.mil:nguyenat@cc.IMS.DISA.MIL
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:36:03 GMT


    "The trouble with most of us is that we' rather be ruined by praise (or
    self-praise) than saved by criticism."

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Van Tran <0005359961@mcimail.com>
Subject: [THO+] THO+ TRA^`N Y' VA^N
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: 0005359961@mcimail.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:32:59 GMT

Tha'ng Ba?y  --  Ha?i Nam


So'ng bie^?n vo^ ti`nh, thuye^`n cu+' tro^i
Cho^ng che^nh. Ta`u cu+'u, ca?m o+n tro+`i!.
Tha'ng ba?y mu+a nhie^`u, tu+`ng co+n la.i#.
Nhu+~ng chie^`u gio^ng to^' so'ng xa kho+i#.

Ge^`nh dda' cheo leo, gio' hu' vang;
Ba~i ca't the^nh thang, nhu+~ng hoa va`ng
Run run trong gio' tuo^`ng e the.n.
Co' ngu+o+`i con ga'i the.n. Ngo+~ nga`ng.

Me^nh mo^ng tro+`i dda^'t mo^'i u sa^`u,
Ru+`ng du+o+ng xanh tha(?m ta^.n no+i dda^u#?
Chie^`u ti'm ha?i a^u nga^n cao gio.ng
Tra('ng nga^`n mo^.t la't, dde^m dden ma`u (*)#.

To^i nho+' nhu+~ng khi ra(`m sa'ng tra(ng,
Tie^'ng ai than tho+? no^~i nhu.c nha(`n
Tra^`m, bo^?ng, du du+o+ng ba`i "Bie^?n Ma(.n",
Be^`nh bo^`ng nhu+ nhu+~ng a'nh ha?i dda(ng.

Ma^'y tha'ng no+i kia tu+.a ma^'y na(m,
Tu+o+ng lai ai bie^'t? Tha^.t xa xa(m.
DDo+`i ddo^?i, a(n xin nga`y hai bu+?a,
Nhu+~ng lu'c tro+`i mu+a o+? nha` na(`m.

A^'y va^.y ho.c the^m nhu+~ng chuye^.n ddo+`i
Tha(ng, tra^`m chi? tu+.a mo^.t cuo^.c cho+i#.
Xua^n dde^'n, ddo^ng ta`n tuy de^? no'i
Khi ma` la^m pha?i mo+'i than tro+`i!

Ha?i Nam tu+` da.o a^'y chia tay
To^i va^~n lang thang nhu+~ng tha'ng nga`y#.
So^ng, nu+o+'c, ba.n be`, ti`nh xu+a a^'y
Nha('c la.i trong lo`ng cho+.t qua('t quay#.
     

                                   Tra^`n Y' Va^n

(*) Hai ca^u na`y mu+o+.n y' tho+ trong mo^.t ba`i cu?a Matsuo
Basho#.


P.S.  And another Paz's poem to share with y'all:

Example

A butterfly flew between the cars.
Marie Jose' said: it must be Chuang Tzu,
on a tour of New York.
                       But the butterfly
dreaming it was Chuang Tzu
                           or Chuang Tzu
dreaming he was a butterfly.
The butterfly never wondered:
                              it flew.

                           (unknown translator -- TYV)

		Ejemplo

		La majiposa volaba entre los autos.
		Marie Jose' me dijo: ha de ser Chuang Tzu,
		de paso por Nueva York.
				        Pero la mariposa
           bo sabi'a que era una mariposa
		que son~aba ser Chuang Tzu
					  o Chuang Tzu
		que son~aba ser una mariposa.
		La mariposa no dudaba:
		  volaba.

                                          *** Octavio Paz ***
From: lle@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Lydia Le)
Subject: need VN info
Organization: DHL Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:02:53 GMT

Hello guys and gals,

I know there is a big hot discussion about Viet Kieu in VN going on right
now, but please forget about that for a moment and see if you can give me
some information here.
   * Can get a visa to stay in VN for a year or two???
   * Are there any good art or literature school in VN???  It could be
     private or public.  Can a VK enroll in the school???
My mother who is very sick had just came back to the US after spending
13 months in VN.  She said the local officials would come by monthly to
extract money from her after her visa expired; it was for 3 months.
She is very sick and likes to spend the rest of her life in VN with
her sister.  I might have to accompany her, and if that's the case, I
would like to take this opportunity to learn VNese lit or art.  

Thanks in advance.

Lydia Le
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nvt@netcom.com (Fam Com)
Subject: Re: Tui bie^t' hat' ro^i`!!
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 01:02:31 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

chau@hao.ucar.edu (National Center for Atmospheric Research) wrote:
>Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:15:01 GMT
>
>Hellooooooooo netters!!!!!!!!!!
>	Cam' o*n cac' anh chi. tre^n SCV dda~ "ta^n. tinh`" giup' cho nhie^u`
>y' kie^n' qui' bao' ve^` cach' hoc. hat'. Sau vai` ngay` ta^p. du+o+c. vo+i'
>cai' karaoke mo+i' mua, gio+` giong. ca cua? tui cung~ co' mo^t. vai` ngu+o+i`
>ha^m mo^. ro^i`.
>	Thanh` tha^t. cam' o+n ta^t' ca? mo^t. la^n` nu+a~.  -De^? kho^ng phu.
>lo`ng cac' anh chi. tre^n SCV, tui se~ tung ra mo^t. cuo^n' ba*ng trong mo^t.
>ngay` ga^n` dda^y.  Mong cac' anh chi. ung? ho^..  Thu+ tu+` order xin
>bie^n ve^`
>		Buo^n` Ra^u` Productions
>		Denver, Colorado
>Ai mua so+m' tru+o'c te^t' Congo, mua 1 ba*ng se? ddu+o+c. ta*ng. 1 may' hat'
>hie^u. Sony.
>
>***** Just kidding guys!! I would like to thank all the SCV netters who had 
>given me some excellent ideas on Karaoke.  Thanks again. 
>

       Chi buo^`n ra^`u a. , chi. dda~ he^'t buo^`n ra^`u ro^`i sao
chi. va^~n mang ca'i nick la` Le^ Thi. Buo^`n Ra^`u va^.y ?  La.i xua^'t
ba?n cuo^'n ba(ng mo+'i mang ca'i te^n Buo^`n Ra^`u nu+~a la`m cho NVT
na`y cu~ng pha't buo^`n ra^`u ddo' :(( .

       Cha('c chi. ne^n ddo^? la.i la` : Le^ Thi. Vui Ve?  .  Vi` chi.
he^'t buo^`n ro^`i , pha?i ho^ng ?   

       Ne^'u kho^ng ddo^?i thi` ca^y co? o+? Denver cu~ng buo^`n theo
ddo'.   Tha^.t la` :

          " Ngu+o+`i buo^`n ca?nh co' vui dda^u bao gio+` "
                                          Nguye^~n Du
 
                                                  Ngu+o+`i Kho^ng Vui
							 NVT
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