HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Apartment Peeves
Date: 9 Oct 1992 07:32:11 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Peeve:  They hang up signs in the morning to let you know they'll be shutting
	the water off in the building in one hour for most of the day.  Yeah,
	thanks;  I usually run around the building looking for signs before my
	morning shower just to see how badly my life has been fucked by
	filthy, dumb people with low-riding jeans.

Peeve:  I live beneath sonic Nazis.  I don't play my stereo loudly; I don't
	play it late at night.  They still complain.  My CD player is 
	variable output; and when it is turned on, it is set to a default
	volume level.  Stands to reason that this level is not very loud,
	right?  So, I'm listening to my stereo at this start-up level
	at *noon* on a weekday.  And he complains.  Fucker.

Peeve:  Though they are so sensitive to the noise I make, they appear to be
	deaf to any noise source within their own apartment.  Thus, the jet-
	engine volume level of their television.  I don't complain because
	I don't feel like starting a testiness war with the building manager.

Peeve:  Construction noise from renovation of other apartments.

!Peeve: The sonic Nazis get that noise worse than I do.

Peeve:  The hallway carpets smell.


Matthew J. Henken :-{<Peeve:  Blood pours from the walls.  Oh, wait, that was
			      The Amityville Horror.>]
henken@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Hare Triggers
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:06:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Oct12.204538.23381@CS.ORST.EDU> tim@physics.orst.edu writes:

>Plagiarism is an ugly thing.  Really, what could you possibly have been 
>thinking?

>"Caveat emptor"..... and caveat pre-emptor, as well.


I'll have you know that before I used that line, I dutifully did a grep 
of my famous 5240-line (as of today) quotes file so I could give proper
attribution (as I'm known to do), and came up empty-handed.  I'd have
given you credit if I'd remembered that you were the author.  In retrospect,
I suppose I should've at least put quotation marks around the thing.

Peeve:  Caught in the cusp of a cosmic screwing, I used a line in the same 
newsgroup in which I found it, way back when.  Oh, well.


Geoff


-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
         "The killer awoke before dawn, he put his clown shoes on, and
                    he ... flopped on down the hall..."
 					-- somebody in alt.tasteless
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: Possible Conspiracy Uncovered
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Department of Information Overload
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:00:18 GMT


In article <ld3b2nINN8p1@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, 
geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) who has left his brain at home,
innocently asks the whereabouts of the blue powder from which the color
powder blue comes and makes paranoid suggestions about where it's kept.

Great Heaving Bosom of Astarte! Where's this child been all his life? Geoff,
go to a hardware store. Ask to see a chalk line. Look inside. Voila! Blue
Powder. Then go to an art supply house and look at the dry tempera paints
there. Voila, ditto. If you had an existence you probably wouldn't know how to
use it. Sheeeeesh!

Back to the Order of the Orange Racing Stripe witcha - at least those folks
can tend you in your infirmity.

BTW - ever discover the location of the sprite?

--
Nolan "I gotcher blue powder right here, buddy" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"Grab Dick and come on down"  Don Pette
"Texas is like an old woman's pussy.  Everyone knows its down there but
nobody gives a fuck."  - Overheard on CB radio, compliments of 
	bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
"Boy, was I in for a dose of reality." Randall K. Abler
"... necrophilia doesn't really hurt anybody."  Rick Gordon
"Well, first of all, your stance is too wide"
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (I would like to return this TOBACCONIST; it is scratched)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Yech
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:59:26 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:


>I dunno, one minute it's giant spiders, the next it's mouldy flapjack.
>Given that we already have Lurch on the cleaning staff here, the feeling
>that I'm stuck in an episode of the Addams Family or The Munsters is
>getting increasingly difficult to ignore.

Look carefully at your change and see if there's any Runcitier 10pence
pieces in it.
-- 
"If I had killed her when I had first thought about getting divorced,
 I would have been out of jail by now."
	-- A newly-divorced guy I met at a block party
From: tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Colourful Money
Keywords: Losers
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:57:31 GMT
Reply-To: tim@physics.orst.edu
Organization: Up the,

In article <11@bbx.basis.com>, russ@bbx.basis.com (Russ Kepler) writes:
|> 
|> German marks are not all that colorful - for real color you have to go
|> to the Netherlands.  Florescent colors, different for each denomination.
|> 

Unfortunately, we can all kiss our friends the Dutch goodbye.

As most of you know, much of Holland is land reclaimed from the sea
and protected from said watery nemesis by large dykes.  (I've often
wondered how Van Dyke translates; I've contemplated a humorous
connection between Dutch goatees and dental dams, but given up.)
Anyway, the looming prospect of global warming and the ensuing
high water levels are making the Dutch nervous.

However, rather than building taller dykes, the windmill set, realizing
that most of their coast lies on large limestone deposits, have proposed
a solution which seems questionable at best.  They are suggesting 
injecting thousands of barrels of sulphuric acid into the limestone
foundation upon which their country lies.  It might uniformly expand,
leaving their land at a greater elevation.  It might not.

If you find a wooden shoe washed ashore sometime next year, you'll know
for sure.

-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The wages of sin are death, but the benefits include dental, major
medical, two week paid vacation, pension fund, and stock options.
Actually, taken as a package, it's a rather attractive deal.
          Tim Mefford___________________tim@physics.orst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Hare Triggers
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:42:20 GMT

Wups - forgot to put the annotation on the last post.

A TestosteroneMeasurementDevice is sold on the open
market under the name of a Remote Control Unit.

Diana
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Pained Whale?
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:47:47 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <CINDY.92Oct11141726@solan10.solan.unit.no> cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
~
~Peeve: Cloudberries, or rather rabid cloudberry fans.  I have tried
~them in several desserts now, and i haven't particularly liked any of
~them.  But there are still some people who insist "Try _my_ dessert.
~This is how cloudberries are supposed to taste."  And of course they
~all taste essentially the same....  

Cindy, you must be completely mad. Cloudberry sauce on ice cream is
orgasmically delicious.


-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          Vommen
                                             Bladmagen
                                   Loepmagen
                        Naetmagen
From: S.H.Eepdog@ed.ac.uk (S H Eepdog)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Meeting Rah-Rahs
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:32:21 GMT
Reply-To: S.H.Eepdog@ed.ac.uk (S H Eepdog)
Distribution: alt
Organization: S H Eepdogs, Inc

Mahmoud ibn-Purplehazi, net.terrorist writes:
> 
> the other, being my officemate, is annoying because of her proximity
> and the fact that I'm a captive audience.  It's the same every time: as she
> reads her email, just prior to speaking to me, she'll say "Okay!" as a 
> prelude to the actual "let's go to the meeting" prod -- sort of a "message 
> follows" heads-up.  "Oh shit," I think to myself; "Here it comes."  "Geoff!
> It's time for the meeting!"  Wonderful.

You mean that she actually *goes* to the meetings? How can she survive all
that time without a 'phone?

[ Or does she take the bloody thing into the meeting room? ]

--
Mr. S. H. Eepdog
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Friend of Spider Joe)
Subject: Dim Caffeinic nights
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Sourdough's Portable Kitchen and Chuck Wagon
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:18:35 GMT


Due to an overwhelming lack of response to episode 1, here's episode 2 of Dim
Caffeinic Nights by Spider Joe
------------------------------excise here-------------------------------------
Subj:	Heavy coffee at Spider Joe's Cafe Americain: and more mood ... 

It was night.  The streets of the city were swathed in darkness, dusty
receptacles for the effluvia of light that escaped, half-used, from the dens
and hovels of the Thieves' District.  And at the heart of the District was
one den that was more than a den, one hovel that was more than a hovel, the
unacknowledged center of a world within a world.  It was Spider Joe's Cafe
Americain, where life is cheap, and anything could be had -- for a price.
Minutes before, the sound of Sam's piano had filled the streets and allies
with a muted strain, rising above the hushed, desperate whispers of the
early-evening patrons, above the clatter of cups and saucers of the desert
city's most notorious coffee bar, rising even above the frenzied, forced
laughter of Spider Joe's gaming tables.  But now, all was silent, music,
whispers, clatter, and laughter all vanished.  Inside the Cafe, all was still
and unreal.  Smoke had replaced any breathable air, drifting in palpable
whisps around the lamps and candles of the main room.  Even the No Smoking
section was shrouded in its own pall of exhalation.

To Spider Joe, looking over the early receipts in the upstairs office, the
rush of silence was a warning knell, a harbinger of blood.  He stepped out of
the office and looked down over the staircase. The smoke was so thick he
could almost hear it scraping its full, serpentine lengths past the candles
in the chandelier.  His street-wise eyes sorted the scene in an instant. In a
corner sat Le Generale Kozinsky, his eyes fixed to the front.  Near him,
failing to appear casual, were a score of his veteran Legionnaires, sitting
at tables by twos and threes, pretending to exchange reminiscences about the
Tunisian campaign.  At the other end of Le Generale's gaze, having just
entered from the secretive street beyond, stood Mac the Knife, Machine-Gun
Mac, smuggler extraordinaire, backed by her loyal band of ruthless
cutthroats.  Her gaze instantly found Le Generale's, and their eyes were
locked in a duel of wills, precursor to the duel of blood.  The coffee was
ready, but clearly, on this night, neither had come for brew.
--
Nolan "Sourdough" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"Where no one complains ... and lives"

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Harpoon 'em if they can't take a joke
Keywords: bleeding-heart bunny huggers, water cannons
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:14:46 GMT

In <+0qp0tp@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:

>Meat is meat.

And a man's got to eat.
   -Farmer Vincent
--
"Yes, he really said that!"
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: credit card peeve
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:18:08 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <1992Oct9.170226.29983@access.usask.ca> nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly) writes:
>hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
>>Peeve: Paying tax on airplane tickets. Why not just include the tax in the
>>listed fare?
>Come on up to Canada, and you can pay tax on your restaurant meals, doughnuts,
>haircuts, movie tickets, gasoline, cigarettes, clothing, *and* airline 
>tickets...Newspapers too.  So quit bitching.  You got it easy.

Uh, guess what? In California, at least, all those items are taxed. THe
thing that PEEVES me about the taxes is that they tax newspapers. Whatever
happened to the first amendment of the Constitution? I don't have the text
in front of me, but doesn't it say something about abridging free speech?
Putting a tax on newspapers makes buying them more of a burden on everyone.
Sure looks like abridgement to me. 

Hotel tax. That's another one that drives me nuts. They want to have
a 12% hotel tax in San Francisco. The guy behind it says that the 1.2%
increase is only "a penny" (on a dollar). It *still* brings it up to 12%
and those weenies wonder why tourism is down. They think its the fire last
year. Hell, if it costs a lot of money to go to a place, no one is going to
go. Some people like the armchair thrill factor of going to a place noted
for natural disasters. "Oooh, Mort, you are *so* BRAVE to go to CALIFORNIA!
All those earthquakes! What a stud!"

Death and taxes. Two constants and two peeves.

ER
--

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I just couldn't take the green brain carpet, so I had to kill it."
					-R. Hep
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Subject: Re: Quadrophobia     
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:32:39 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

In article <1992Oct6.214020.6107@mel.dit.csiro.au>, jen187@mis.csiro.au (Graham Jenkins +61 6 276 6812) writes:
|> 
|> Here's a bit of ancienttrivia for the aged players in here.
|> Pearl was produced in quadraphonic format. Very big for a month
|> or two during 1970.

Yeesh.  I was given a copy of "Band on the Run" on, get this, a quadrophonic
8-track tape.  I don't know that any quad 8-track players were ever created,
but *I* didn't have one.  It was sooooooo COOL.  You could listen to 1/2
a song (not the first half or the second half, but half of the entire song
from beginning to end) on the first pass through the stereo heads, and about
45 minutes later you could hear the other half.  It was years before I heard
all of some of those songs at the same time.

+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dr. Pavlov's distinguished career came to an      |
|abrupt end one day when the doorbell rang and the |
|dog ate the Avon lady.                            |
+--------------------------------------------------+
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Self-Assembly (was Caffeine and mornings)
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:18:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1b20kkINNirv@smaug.West.Sun.COM> dab@ism.isc.com 
(Dave Butterfield) writes:

>=Jesus Christ!

>Well, on a crutch.


On a Jetski.



Geoff


-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Geoff Miller                    + + + + + + + +        Sun Microsystems
geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM  + + + + + + + +     Menlo Park, California
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Local Yokels and the Perils of the People's Cadillac
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:41:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 8085@ac.dal.ca, 01sybok@ac.dal.ca () writes:
> [An old lady] walked down the isle and asked: "Is anyone sitting here?"
> "Nobody but the Lord," I said, with my best Jesus Freak imitation [...]

I saw a bumper sticker that read, "If Jesus is your co-pilot -- MOVE OVER!"

Judging by the other stickers on this guy's car, the sticker was
intended to be taken seriously; nonetheless I think it's a good bit of
advice for Christian BDI drivers.

---
Brian Scearce                               bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
        The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
          It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.
From: henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew J. Henken)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Net.Dicks (Re: Pained Whale?)
Date: 16 Oct 1992 18:04:32 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Net Dick

In article <1992Oct16.051450.23147@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU writes:
>henken@ocf.berkeley.edu (Matthew Jerk Henken) writes:
>>jen187@mis.csiro.au (Graham Jenkins writes:
>>>allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU writes:
>>>
>>> [in response to a query about what Maalox is...]
>>> [recipe designed to induce a Maalox craving]
>>>
>>>Yes, well, thank you. While I'm sure your recipe for enlightenment
>>>has some merit, I believe I shall forego the pleasures of experiencing
>>>it on this occasion. 
>>
>>Like anyone gives a shit what you intend to do.  Fuck off and drop dead.
>
>Put very succinctly.

Yes.

>
>>Peeve:  People who think anyone wants to see their chatty, stupid, pointless
>>	responses.  What is going on?  This is alt.PEEVES, god fucking
>>	dammit!
>
>So? Is this YOUR peeve? You sound like George "THIS is the UNITED STATES
>OF *AMERICA* you're talking about" Bush. 

I had thought that the implication was obvious enough for all but the most
moronic. I was right, but still need to explain it to you.  As opposed to
Bush's rhetoric, there seems to be an obvious suggestion of proper content
associated with the name of this group. "Alt.peeves" suggests that peeves
is what one should expect here.  Got it now?

Peeve:  I have to explain this.


>>Peeve:  Too many damn posts about the structure and workings of Peevetown.
>>	Get a grip.  It's a cute joke, for about 17 seconds.
>
>True. So shut the fuck up.

This I just don't get.  When have I ever posted about Peevetown?  I never have.
And I'm certainly not doing it here.  So what the fuck does this mean?


>>Peeve:  He (Banta) also just peeved recently about "chat" newsgroups; from the
>>	above it doesn't look like you can escape that bullshit even here.
>>
>>Peeve:  Somehow, I've become some sort of net.cop.  Christ.
>
>No. You have become some sort of net.dick. Shithead.

A net.dick?  Is that slang for net.private-investigator?

>ObPeeve: net.dicks

Peeve:  Repetitive guys named Al.


Matthew J. Henken :-{<Going for the Most-specific-peeve-of-1992 award>]
henken@ocf.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donp@twg.com (Don Pette)
Subject: Lou Reed (was Re: credit card peeve)
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:36:15 GMT

In article <ld5sqrINNak2@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>

     The usual eloquent Geoffonism's removed

>
>recording tape, Zig-Zag rolling papers <gasp!> and records by obscure artists
>that nobody had ever heard of at the time, like Danny Kortchmar and Lou Reed.
>(This was before "Take a Walk On the Wild Side.") 

Lou Reed came out with what I think was his debut album in 1972 or 1973,
it was called 'Rock-and-Roll Animal'. Probably had the best two lead
guitarists of the day. On the album there was a song called 'Heroin'
and there's an urban legend that Lou actually shot-up during the recording
of the song. If you've heard the song you'd probably agree. If you've
seen Lou you'd probably agree.

I wish I could've seen him do it at Winterland. 

(Winterland was one of the best places to see concerts in San Francisco
 in the late 60's and 70's, at least from the flashbacks I can remember) 

-Don "Pass the microdot" Pette
From: nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: credit card peeve
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:21:35 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:

>nesdoly@dvinci.USask.Ca (Mark Nesdoly) writes: 
>| hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
>| 
>| >Peeve: Paying tax on airplane tickets. Why not just include the tax in the
>| >listed fare?
>| 
>| Come on up to Canada, and you can pay tax on your restaurant meals, doughnuts,
>| haircuts, movie tickets, gasoline, cigarettes, clothing, *and* airline 
>| tickets...Newspapers too.  So quit bitching.  You got it easy.

>Peeve: The "I've got it worse than you have, so you have no right to complain
>about it" mentality.  This form of one-upmanship is just barely above the
>"Back in *my* day..." lead-ins that I always find so tiresome.

Well then, why don't you put yourself in my place, and pay a total of 15% tax
on almost everything you buy.  It gets sickening mighty fast, and so does 
someone who complains about paying less tax on only some of the items that we
are taxed on (i.e. everything).

Things were better back in *my* day...(duck!)                      


-- Mark

Every dogma has its day.
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (I would like to return this TOBACCONIST; it is scratched)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: corporate slime
Date: 12 Oct 92 05:32:39 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon) writes:

>In article <ATAYLOR.92Sep29112026@gauss.nmsu.edu> Nosy writes:

>>	Peeve. Professionally made agitprop films run as
>>	"documentaries". If "Roger & Me" is a documentary,
>>	so is "Triumph of the Will".....

>I'll see your Peeve, Nosy, and raise you one Secret: I like "Triumph
>of the Will."  [and so on]

I personally prefer "Know Your Enemy: Japan".

"And the Japanese government sent hundreds of tourists to the United States,
where they photographed everything they saw and reported on it back to
Tojo."
-- 
"If I had killed her when I had first thought about getting divorced,
 I would have been out of jail by now."
	-- A newly-divorced guy I met at a block party
From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Recipe Swapping on alt.peeves (was Re: Pained Whale?)
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:25:06 +1000
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <1992Oct8.005815.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:

> I have an even more goof-proof "recipe": Microwave popcorn and Pepsi.
 
> 1) Insert popcorn bag in microwave.
> 2) Cook on high for 5 minutes or till flash point.

Unless you actually have a 750 watt oven where you thought it was
a 550 watt oven and you leave it in a bit too long.  Nice warm
black things.  Not really edible unless you like charcoal with
your Pepsi.

ObWeirdFact:  They use Pear Juice instead of sugar in those hand Coke
dispensers (where they mix it at the nozzle) here in Australia
because there's a tax on sugar.

Carl.
-- 
Carl Makin, MVS/ESA Systems Programmer, VAX/VMS Dabbler. 
Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services, Canberra, Australia.
sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au!hhcs!makinc   -   UUCP
makinc@hhcs.gov.au		   -   Internet
vk1kcm@vk1kcm.act.aus.oc	   -   Packet Radio
"I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you."