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From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Subject: Re: A320 Airbus
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 02:25:07 GMT

In article <1k72tdINN623@eagle.natinst.com> bobc@natinst.com (Bob Conyne) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.175135.16431@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna) writes:
>>  [Regarding A320 Airbus] 
>>
>>The graphics are superior! (far better than ATC's EGA display).  I think the PC
>>version is done in 320x200x256 VGA.  The frame rate on a 40mhz 68030 equipped
>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>If this is indeed the case, then ATP's graphics (I assume you meant ATP, not
>ATC) are definitely superior.  The EGA graphics of ATP are 640 x 350.  That's
>twice the horizontal and almost twice the vertical resolution -- makes 320 x 
>200 look like crap.  If you've got FS4, you can see how low-res this looks
>by selecting the "IBM PS/2 MCGA" setting from the graphics menu.  

Yes--ATP, not ATC--kind of lost track of SubLogic stuff since they haven't done
anything on the Amiga since FSII in '87  HELLOOO, SUBLOGIC!!!!

True about the resolution, but it does look good in 256 color more.  Anyway,
I did say "I think it is 320x200x256"  since I don't have a PC I can't 
honestly say--it could be higher.  Check the box.

>The simulation does sound interesting, though.  Do you have any idea how
>"realistic" the sim is?  For example, control panel layout, modelling of
>roll, pitch, and yaw characteristics, and such?  

Well, I know ATP has that combined vor, nav, direction finder doohickey, while
A320 doesn't.  Don't know which sim is correct for the 320 in that respect.

It handles like a big fat commercial airliner, so I would guess that it is
fairly accurate :)  No, really, it does  "feel" like a big plane.

I like the fact that you are actually just entering numbers into a computer
when you move the stick.  The computer then takes care of adjusting the
control surfaces, just like on the real A320.  By computer I mean the
simulated flight computer in the sim.

Jeff
From: kinstrey@menkar.crd.ge.com (Michael Kinstrey)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: Sun-Aviator help needed!!!
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:29:13 GMT
Reply-To: kinstrey@crd.ge.com
Followup-To: rec.aviation.simulators
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development

I'm new to the Sun world, so I'm not sure on the nomenclature,
but here goes:
  I'm trying to get aviator to run on either a Sun 4 Sparc 1+,
or a Sun 4 IPX (Sparc 2 ?). I've installed aviator in a 
directory other than /usr/games/aviator, since I don't have 
permissions to install there. I've set AVIATOR_HOME to the
installed directory, but when I try to start it up, I get the
error messages about only being able to run on Sun GX's. Fine.
Accompanying the aviator distribution is an IPX.patch file.
The problem is the patch is supposed to return:

0x29a3e:     0x2005  =      0x2000

I get:

0x29a3e:     0x2000  =      0x2000


Does the IPX patch still require a Sun GX machine? If so, how
can I tell if a Sun is a GX?

HELP!!!

			Mike Kinstrey
			kinstrey@crd.ge.com


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From: rab@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Alan Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: a320.... bah
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:46:49 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Melbourne
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NOT from rab@ariel...



I have had a fairly close look at A320, and in my opinion it is 
*far* more limited than Sublogic ATP. It looks slightly
prettier, but in no way matches the detail of ATP in terms
of control detail, flight planning etc. 

I don't want to start a 'nah nah nah flame war', so go and try
it. Our local flightsim shop (yes a business dedicated to 
PC flight simulators) got a whole lot in, but after people
tried it out, they couldnt sell them.

It seemed to handle more like an arcade game flightsim, and was
insensitive to many configurations, ie; didnt much change it's handling
as speed, flap, undercarriage, thrust settings etc changed.

I'd like to see something like ATP with SVGA drivers, and code
optimized for the 386/486 generation of processors (and versions
for Mac, Amiga etc).

Anyway, try them both out, your mileage may vary.


cheers
Alistair Scott

afs@tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au
From: bkerr@col.hp.com (Brian Kerr)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: MS Flight Sim via modem problems
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:36:18 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: ra.col.hp.com


I recently tried to connect Microsoft Flight Simulator via modem and
was unsuccessful. Does anyone have any experience with this?

Both ends were running version 4. The connection was made OK but 
neither end seemed to be receiving any data from the other. LEDs on
one modem indicated a continuous stream of data being sent but
nothing received.

Brian Kerr
bkerr@col.hp.com

-- 
Brian W. Kerr
Hewlett-Packard Company
Colorado Springs Division
bkerr@col.hp.com
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From: ccwilber@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Subject: Mallard AAF and SEE
Organization: University Of Queensland
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 05:13:28 GMT

I have heard about Mallard's Aircraft and Adventure Factory, for use
with designing new aircraft. Also I believe there is something called SEE to 
do with Scenery Editing. Can anyone tell me about where to get these, how 
much they cost, and whatever else might be useful to know?

Thanks,
Wilber.

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From: jambon@imag.fr (Francis Jambon)
Subject: Re: A320 Airbus
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:43:08 GMT

Is A320 Airbus cockpit realistic ?
Have you got the three electronic displays in the simulator ?
I ask it before buy it :-)

Francis
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From: bobc@natinst.com (Bob Conyne)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: A320 Airbus
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:38:37 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

In article <1993Jan27.175135.16431@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna) writes:
>  [Regarding A320 Airbus] 
>
>The graphics are superior! (far better than ATC's EGA display).  I think the PC
>version is done in 320x200x256 VGA.  The frame rate on a 40mhz 68030 equipped
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If this is indeed the case, then ATP's graphics (I assume you meant ATP, not
ATC) are definitely superior.  The EGA graphics of ATP are 640 x 350.  That's
twice the horizontal and almost twice the vertical resolution -- makes 320 x 
200 look like crap.  If you've got FS4, you can see how low-res this looks
by selecting the "IBM PS/2 MCGA" setting from the graphics menu.  

The simulation does sound interesting, though.  Do you have any idea how
"realistic" the sim is?  For example, control panel layout, modelling of
roll, pitch, and yaw characteristics, and such?  

>
>If you would like a very complex Commercial Airline Pilot sim, get Airbus.
>
>Jeff

--Bob
From: 92brown@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: FS4 lockups!?
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:17:02 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I have been having irregular difficulties with FS4 since I purchased it two
years ago.  Occasionally the program locks up on me for no apparent reason. 
I'll be making a VFR flight from Chicago to Champaign (or other such scenarios) 
and in midflight the program will simply lockup.  Sometimes I won't even know
that it has happened because the sound of the engine continues to buzz away.
Elevators and rudder controls will cease to function but the mouse will still
work for about a minute and then it will lockup also.  It seems to be a
gradual lockup not a sudden one.  I thought that I could live with it thinking
it was just an occasionlly appearing bug in the software but it has become very
annoying and I'm not sure what to do.  The problem has occured while using DOS
3.3 and DOS 5.0 (I upgraded) and also using Stacker and without Stacker.  I am
at a lost.  

Can anyone help?

Thanks.
-- 
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/  Western Michigan University      are Watching You"    /
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From: jeffm@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: Mac version of Microprose B-17?
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:06:03 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Does anyone make a Mac compatable version of this simulator? The B-17 
Microprose thing?

Jeffm@bvc.edu
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: VOR tracking with FS4
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:27:08 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

Does anyone else have a problem with the autopilot function in 
FS4 tracking a VOR?  In my system (486/33 8-MB RAM) the autopilot
tracks about 40 degrees to the left of any radial I set it for...

and it never manages to actually track to the station.  I can tolerate
this in real airplanes, (the airplane I fly doesn't track to Loran directly),
but in FS4 it's really irritating.  Any suggestions????


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com or 74616.2237@compuserve.com
SHO  GOZE
From: tetsuji@rai.juice.or.jp (Tetsuji Rai)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: Re: sound board capability for MS-FS4?
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:09:46 GMT
Organization: juice

In article <15638.2b61ddcd@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> elf@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>Hello everyone,
>
>I have a quick question here --
>Does anyone know if MS-FS4 has any sort of "sound board" capability?
>

With SGA(sound, graphic and aircraft enhancement by Mallard), FS4 is capable
of sound(with soundblaster) and it even speaks(slowly..).

-Tetsuji
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From: vhill@fudd.jsc.nasa.gov (Vernon Hill)
Subject: Re: FS4 Aircraft Collection
Organization: Lockheed, NASA Johnson Space Center, Houston
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:11:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.141946.17414@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas) writes:
...
>
>They can be found on tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au in /pub/incoming/FS called 
>airlib01.exe and airlib02.exe. They are self extracting archives and are
>virus free (I unpacked them on my system with no ill effects)
>
>They include....
>
>airlib01:
>
>Mig-29 fulcrum
>B2 
>SR-71
>Piper Warrior II
>Cessna Citation
>BAE 146
>Corsair (F4U)
>Antonov Myria (the big sucker)
>Beech Bonanza (V tailed doctor killer)
>DC-3
>Wright bros flyer
>F-4
>Tornado
>Beech 1900C
>
>airlib02.exe:
>
>Grumman Gulfstream
>Quickie
>F-5E
>T-38
>DC-8
>Ford Trimotor
>Twinbeech 18C
>Aeronca (looks like a champ)
>TBM700
>LongEze
>Me-262
>A340 Airbus
>F-16
>B-727
>
>enjoy...
>
>
>Alistair
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>-- 
>John Mechalas                                          "I'm not an actor, but
>mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
>Aero Engineering, Purdue University                     #include disclaimer.h

I have recently downloaded this collection and I have a few questions concerningthe installation and use of these aircraft.

After running both of the executables, I moved several of the file pairs into the FS4 directory.  I then fired up FS4, and found the aircraft in question listed in the aircraft library.  However, when I try to select and activate any of the aforementioned aircraft, FS4 appears to lock up.  
Are there additional steps that need to be taken to set up the aircraft library or is there a possible problem with my system or FS4? (I am running an Acer 1100 16Mhz 386 with a VGA card and monitor, under MSDOS 5.0)

Also, I have obtained most of the recently posted uuencoded FS4 aircraft, and have succesfully uudecoded them.  However, I am unclear on the procedures necessary to unzip and install the two part aircraft files.  Are there installation instructions available from somewhere or can someone please offer me some assistance?

Thanks in advance for any solutions or suggestions to this lengthy request,
Vernon
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
From: Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray)
Subject: Re: Amiga
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:40:00 GMT

Andrew Tuline writes:

: I know of many former Amiga owners who sold their systems for PC's, myself
: being one of them.

Me, too.  Three years ago, I sold my Amiga 2000 with 3 megs of RAM and a 40
meg harddrive for CAN $2500 and bought a 386DX-25 Mhz (_really_ powerful for
its day) with 4 megs of RAM, an ATI video card, an Adlib sound card, a SVGA
monitor, a 60 meg harddrive, a mouse, a joystick, etc.

The dollar difference?  I paid an additional CAN $300 for the 386 over what I
sold the Amiga for!  I went from an 8 Mhz 68000 to a 25 Mhz 80386 DX, and I
found at the beginning that my no-name MS-DOS box could do everything the
Amiga did (and more, faster) for far less in cost.

Since then, I've upgraded a lot, mostly because of Falcon 3.01.1, Aces of the
Pacific, F-15 Strike Eagle III, et al  :-) .  I now have a 486DX-33 Mhz, a
210 meg harddrive, 8 megs of RAM, an ATI 24XL video card, a SoundBlaster Pro
sound card, and a few other assorted goodies not worth the bandwidth to
mention.

Believe me, once you've tasted flying the Falcon (at the highest detail
settings and High Fidelity flight model), you'll really feel as if you are
truly in the cockpit.

Don't get me wrong, though:  I'm not about to start a juvenile
"my-computer-is-better-than-yours" flamewar.  If you're satisfied with what
you've got, great!  Have fun, be productive, and be happy!  I know that I
certainly am, but I won't go on a religious quest to convince others that
computer X is better than computer Y.

... and now back to flight simulators ...
--

       Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia  /  Canada, Eh?
       Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca               CIS:  73200,3117

Ligneous and petrous projectiles can potentially fracture my osseous
structure, but pejorative appellations will forever remain innocuous.
From: holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu (michael andrew holthouse)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: Mallard Software Q's (specifically, speech synthesis)
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:14:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: saturn.1k4gklINN4e2
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn.cis.ohio-state.edu

Hello,
	I have some questions about Mallard products...

	1) are the sounds included with AAF the same as in the sound
	   and graphics update program? I got AAF and it came with a lot
	   of .voc files and put a sound control menu in FS4.

	2) is there supposed to be speech synthesis included with AAF?
	   If so, how do I use it? I have tried all the settings in the 
	   menu (COM/Atis Only, All text, etc....) but I never get any 
	   speech, only scrolling text. 

	2a) well, actually, I do get speech when I run the sample.adv
	   that was included with AAF, but I think those are all separate
	   .voc files, right?

	3) if there are more sounds on the S&G update, are there enough
	   to warrant the additional purchase? Or does the graphics update
	   alone make the purchase worth while?

	- BTW, I am using Soundblaster Pro...

	Thanks for your time,
	- Mike.
	  (holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: elf@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: sound board capability for MS-FS4?
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:07:41 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

Hello everyone,

I have a quick question here --
Does anyone know if MS-FS4 has any sort of "sound board" capability?

Thanks in advance,
Eric

Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
From: petterb@dhhalden.no (PETTER BRUSERUD)
Subject: Re: FS4 Aircraft Collection
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:38:19 GMT

I downloaded the FS4 Aircraft Collection a few days ago. And except from 
when flying the F-16, the computer locks up when I want to use the second 3D 
window. Am I doing something wrong or is it the Aircraft Collection that's 
not working properly?

I'm running FS4 on a 486DX2 40 MHz, with DOS 5.0

If you know what's wrong, or what I am doing wrong, please reply!

Petter
From: rab@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Alan Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: Re: FS4 Aircraft Collection
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:35:57 +1100
Organization: School of Physics, University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

In article <1993Jan25.171109.21271@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> vhill@fudd.jsc.nasa.gov (Vernon Hill) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.141946.17414@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas) writes:
>...
>>
>>They can be found on tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au in /pub/incoming/FS called 
>>airlib01.exe and airlib02.exe. They are self extracting archives and are
>>virus free (I unpacked them on my system with no ill effects)
>>
>>They include....
>>
>I have recently downloaded this collection and I have a few questions concerningthe installation and use of these aircraft.
>
>After running both of the executables, I moved several of the file pairs into the FS4 directory.  I then fired up FS4, and found the aircraft in question listed in the aircraft library.  However, when I try to select and activate any of the aforementioned aircraft, FS4 appears to lock up.  
>Are there additional steps that need to be taken to set up the aircraft library or is there a possible problem with my system or FS4? (I am running an Acer 1100 16Mhz 386 with a VGA card and monitor, under MSDOS 5.0)
>
>Thanks in advance for any solutions or suggestions to this lengthy request,
>Vernon

Hi, despite the header, it's alistair scott posting this. 
(afs@tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au).

I don't have much of an idea why the lock ups are occurring. However, I 
had the same thing happen when I downloaded the sr-71.zip file. 
Check that you are downloading using whatever flag you need 
with your data transfer software to get *binary* transfers. The other thing
is, there may be a certain depency on *all* the aircraft description files
that are produced when the self extracting archives unpack. Try 
unarchiving them IN the flightsim directory. Thats what I did, and had 
no trouble. If anyone else has had problems, maybe I uploaded them without
setting file type binary in kermit (I'm sure I did). If anyone has 
successfully used these aircraft, please email me at afs@tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au
and let me know. Otherwose, I'll re-upload them.

Oh, in case you havent guessed, It was me who originally uploaded the
files for anonymous ftp. I was about to post a note about this to 
rec.aviation.sims but John Mechelas beat me to it! Something to do 
with celebrating having my PhD. thesis passed (hic).

Coming soon. PD versions of 737, 727, 747 in qantas, Australian airlines,
and Ansett colours. As soon as I can get them.

ciao all

Alistair

afs@tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au

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From: etu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eugene Lucian Tu)
Subject: Re: A320 Airbus
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 23:47:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.122418.29572@syma.sussex.ac.uk> markf@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Mark Foster) writes:
>
>Does anyone have any information about the recently advertised
>A320 Airbus simulator. The one that was developed in 'corporation' with
>Lufthansa and Deutsche Airbus.
>
>The ad fails to identify the developer.
>
I don't have any info on Airbus to be distributed here....but I did
see it in Europe last July. (I didn't buy it because the instructions
manual was in German).  I imagine that they are converting to US sales
(much like Sierra and other companies do for international sales).
There probably is an English version available from the UK...

I seem to recall (from the back of the box) that the graphics looked
similar to our ATP and MS Flight Simulator here.

Eugene


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From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Subject: Re: Mallard Software Q's (specifically, speech synthesis)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 01:27:10 GMT

In article <1k4gklINN4e2@saturn.cis.ohio-state.edu> holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu (michael andrew holthouse) writes:
>Hello,
>	I have some questions about Mallard products...
>
>	1) are the sounds included with AAF the same as in the sound
>	   and graphics update program? I got AAF and it came with a lot
>	   of .voc files and put a sound control menu in FS4.

As near as I can tell, all the sounds are the same.

>
>	2) is there supposed to be speech synthesis included with AAF?
>	   If so, how do I use it? I have tried all the settings in the 
>	   menu (COM/Atis Only, All text, etc....) but I never get any 
>	   speech, only scrolling text. 

You need to install SBTALK from your soundblaster disks in order for
this to work.  It's not all that impressive, IMHO, however.

>
>	2a) well, actually, I do get speech when I run the sample.adv
>	   that was included with AAF, but I think those are all separate
>	   .voc files, right?

Yes...those are pre-recorded .VOC files.

>	3) if there are more sounds on the S&G update, are there enough
>	   to warrant the additional purchase? Or does the graphics update
>	   alone make the purchase worth while?

The graphics upgrade does, esp if you have an ET4000 chipset.  :) 

>
>	- BTW, I am using Soundblaster Pro...
>
>	Thanks for your time,
>	- Mike.
>	  (holthous@cis.ohio-state.edu)


-- 
John Mechalas                                          "I'm not an actor, but
mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
Aero Engineering, Purdue University                     #include disclaimer.h
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