From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: rec.radio.info and .shortwave
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 02:20:26 GMT
Organization: Amateur Packet Radio E-mail Gateway  VE6MGS

pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul Schleck) sez:
>julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes:
>>n9248086@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Matthew Daniels) writes:
   < single `>' is Paul, double '>>' is Julian and triple '>>>' is Matthew >

>>>As I suspected, information pertinent to this newsgroup is showing up in
>>>the rec.radio.info group and not in here.
Make sure your news reader is not hiding cross posted articles since
rec.radio.info is alphabetically ahead of rec.radio.shortwave.

All `other' articles, unfortuneatly during this startup period, are being
re-posted versions of rec.radio.shortwave articles. The one-ofs, I can't
do anything about, the regular postings I am trying my best, and I thank
the efforts many have put into it so far.
		< Don't Panic > H.H.G.T.T.G.

>>>I would appreciate it if info stuff could be posted here if it is relevant.
and hopefully, the gent that posts it, will be willing to cross-post it
to rec.radio.info so that beginners have a common place to look at for
facts.

>>	I often point out when people with personal whims want to
>>fracture a group "For their convenience".
Oh, am I being convenienced right now. Please tell me so I may experience it :-)

>>Then what do we do when the moderators and originators of these "new
>>and improved" groups go away?
I was here before you, and I expect to be here long after you are gone!
If they don't cart me off to the rubber room, I would be glad to provide the
service of making sure that information only postings show up in
rec.radio.info. My efforts, currently, are to make the `regular' postings
stand on their own, thus if I should `disappear' for any reason, they
will go on without me.

>Rec.radio.info is an "inclusive" newsgroup, and does not do any
>fracturing of any heirarchy.
I stand by this, with the best of my abilities!

>Reading it can only benefit you by providing a filtered presentation of just
>the information.
Wow, that is the `goal' of the group!

>>	Of course re the wrecked.radio.info group. I note a fair
>>amount of duplication from wrecked.radio.amateur.missed. Is it cross
>>posted so my newsreader dumps it? No, it is double posted so I have to
>>hit the N key. Geez - Soo convenient.
Currently, a lot of this problem is due to the fact that many mail2news
gateways that exist out there do *not* allow rec.radio.info and it's
moderated status through (this may due to the fact that some machines
have not processed the newgroup yet :-( ). Many of the people that
produce regular information postings use these gateways. Can anyone tell
me if the ucsd.edu gateway works (I got a short reply from Brian saying
`He is thinking about it', which doesn't anser the question ...).
I am open to suggestions!

>(The ideal solution is for everyone to send info to Mark, who will then
>simultaneously cross-post it to all relevant newsgroups, but time delays
>and mistrust of the moderation process sometimes discourages people from
>doing this).
Trust me, please! :-} (Gohd, I feel pathetic asking for people to mail
to me :-)

>And as always, I must emphasize that posting to another newsgroup is not
>the best way to get Mark's attention.
Grip pliers and a base ball bat works best, but failing that ...

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