From: GGPERRY@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (ggreg)
Subject: Re: ST:DSN - the ULTIMATE COSMIC RIP-OFF!
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:34:29 GMT

well, at least blake's 7 has interesting characters and dr. who has some
really imaginative , great writing, not "family problems" in space every
week.  hell, RED DWARF has better writing than ST, and it's a comedy!!
 
                                                        ggreg
 
 
 
 
In article <C0Jy6I.8nw@acsu.buffalo.edu>
v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
 
>
>In article <1993Jan8.164023.13066@julian.uwo.ca>, larocqu@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (JOHN LAROCQUE) writes...
>>Everybody has probably seen the pilot by now, but I am going to treat
>>the ST:DSN premiere as a spoiler anyways:
>>This show is the greatest rip-off of SF movies and tv shows ever. Every
>>other scene reminded me of other SF shows. So here goes.
>
>Like there has been an original idea in writing for the past how many years?
>Take a guess...
>
>>1. This show rips off from ST:TNG. Yes, that's right. It's Star Trek. Why
>>   shouldn't it? I thought about at least a dozen ST:TNG episodes, including
>>   that Borg 2-parter reintroduced in the opener, and the space amoeba inside
>>   a human being episode. By the way, that concept was ripped off (with style
>>   and originality) from a Buck Rogers episode where Wilma's boyfriend is
>>   a symbiote - his head and his body were two species acting together. Way
>>   cool.
>
>Don't blame the writers for the beginning episode, the TNG have been recycling
>the same three plots for the past three seasons.  Can you name how many
>episodes when Troi is the main character that she is either has trouble with
>her empathy or is possessed.(mentally and physically invaded)
>Don't forget Total Recall's mutant in a mutant.
>Also, don't forget the Star Trek :TOS episode with the deadly fryed flying eggs
>who use Spock to do some really back special effects work.
>
>>4. Star Wars/Indiana Jones. Remember when the Perjoran Dalai Lama sends
>>   Sisko on a quest to retrieve the "tears of the prophet". That's the
>>   whole plot to IJ: The Temple of Doom. And that casino scene with the
>>   alien scene harkened back to the cantina scene on Tatooine. I almost
>>   expected Han Solo to pop a laser blast at Greedo here.
>
>Your argument with the cantina scene is really out of line.  What did you
>expect, a homo-sapians only club med bar or something.   It is a FEDERATION
>OF PLANETS. There should be many races there, especially now.  I mean the
>cantina scene in SW reeks of old Westerns.  Don't forget the Buck Rogers
>casino in space.  The point is, that casino/cantina would exist in latter
>centuries.  They should have similiar qualities to them, or they would
>be not casinoes/bars.
>I didn't care for the religious quest.
>
>>5. Battlestar Galactica. Sisko's shuttle side arms reminded me of the
>>   much larger Galactica ship. When that shuttle entered the TV screen
>>   from the right side, I almost expected Adama to whine about the evil
>>   Cylons and the music to the show to start up. Oh, the casino scene
>>   also reminded me of the casino on Carillon (where the evil Ovions eat
>>   human beings). "Blue Squadron leader to Galactica, over".
>
>It is also similiar to the Buck Rogers fighter launcher too.  (they were
>done by the same production team)  I have to wonder thou, unless you
>expect the smaller ships to be harriers, how they would be launched from a
>ship/space station.
>
>>6. James Bond. Yes, that whole space station is almost identical to
>>   Blofelds complex in The Spy who Loved Me. (his was undersea, but who
>>   cares). And I almost crack up thinking about Moonraker. "Oh James,
>>   take me around the world one more time).
>
>Too bad Blofeld was never in The Spy Who Loved Me.  It was some ocean
>freak(can't remember his name, but he was forgettable).  Maybe Lucas
>could sue the military.  The space shuttle kinda me of some of his ships.
>It seems you are being way too picky on stuff.
>
>>7. Terminator II. The shape shifter here morphs just like the T2000.
>>   Way cool.
>
>Personally, I think he will turn into Benson for a cameo, eventually.
>
>>8. Babylon 5. The whole plot stinks of theft here. But this is Star Trek,
>>   so expect them to make something original of it all. And there are
>>   enough unsolved issues in the premiere to provice many TV hours of
>>   enjoyment.
>
>I heard about this, and the evidence seems to fit that description.
>However, it seems that there are more differences between the show than
>there are similiarities.  Sure they both are in a space station, and they
>have multiple races there.  Those factors should be wiped from your mind.
>
>>Now that Gene is dead, apparently the guys at Paramount are letting their
>>SF influences really show. This premiere has many of them. Say, did anybody
>>watch the Space Rangers premiere. I missed it, but with one person here
>>comparing it to "A-Team in space" I have definitely got to check it out.
>
>Great, That means one of the space rangers has a fear of flying in space.
>What I would like to see is that Paramount and Rick Berman to loosen their
>grip on all Star Trek books, comics, and so forth.  That limits different
>stories.  My main example is the 1st DC Star Trek comic book series. When
>they cancelled it, some of the best writing was being taken place, and was
>cancelled because the made for series supporting characters were being given
>some limelight, and were becoming very interesting. Paramount wanted only
>the regular seven to be looked, and the other characters were done away with.
>
>>Bubble gum for the mind, just like V, Battlestar Galactica and the $6
>>Million Man. I loved them all. Unintelligent SF adventure and proud of it.
>
>Don't forget Doctor Who and Blake's Seven.(I hope we dont get a discussion
>on B7. That would really tick me off)
>
>
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