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From: J.Newman@icarus.curtin.edu.au (John Newman)
Subject: Re: Arabian Nights set of books
Keywords: books
Organization: Computing Centre, Curtin University, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:43:02 GMT

>
>I have a 10 volume, limited edition set of the Arabian 1001 Nights
>published about ?1900. (1000 sets printed.)
>Does anyone know of this edition and roughly what they are worth?

Someone asked for more specific details as there were apparently 
more than a few sets produced about that time:

This set is titled:

 A plain and literal translation of
        The book of the 
   Thousand Nights and A Night
     (Alf Laylah wa Laylah) 
      by Richard F Burton

Published privatly by the Kamashastra Society in August 1885.
Volume 10 contains a long essay on the history of The Nights.


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From: disaacs@pietrzak.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: finishing our table
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:58:35 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

My wife and I are not knowledgable about antiques.  But we have this table
that we bought off of an old couple, that was originally a purplish
stained colour but was for some reason painted over to look like teak.
Someone who was into antiques came by once and said the table was a Duncan
Phyfe, and for proof pointed to the clawed feet on the table.

Anyways, my wife and I have decided that the imitation teak paintjob
has to go, so we'd like to strip it down and refinish it.  We spoke to
a few antique dealers and they said if it IS a Duncan Phyfe it's probably
made of mahagony, which is a very porous wood and should not be refinished by
the non-experienced (such as ourselves).

So we need some advice.  First, we'd like to know what the Hell a Duncan
Phyfe is, and if we have one or not.  And can we refinish this table
without ruining it?

Dave



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From: lim@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Lloyd Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: coin collection
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:42:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <Bz98A2.6so@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sara Shelton) writes:
>
>I recently inherited a somewhat extensive coin collection, and I know
>very little about the stuff.  Apparently, it contains some rare pieces
>such as 1943 *copper* pennies as well as silver treasury notes, bills
>signed by some treasurer who didn't serve but a short time, bills
>with red seals, coffee cans full of "liberty" coins, and pennies by
>the roll.  I haven't even looked at it all!
>
>I have two basic questions:  
>
>a)  How do I go about getting the collection appraised?  I have it in
>safe deposit boxes, but I may need to have it insured.  Should I even
>bother with having it appraised/insured, or am I being paranoid? 
>
>b)  If I should ever decide to sell anything, how would I do so?
>Contact a dealer, stand on a streetcorner,.... ;-)

I see some people have already given you some good advice about
dealers, insurance, and such so I won't repeat it.  I strongly
encourage you to go through it all and catalog it.

First, as someone else said, it's very unlikely that they are real
1943 copper cents.  There were lots of fakes.  There are some simple
tests that the you or the dealer can do.  If you still think they are
real, then you should send them to the American Numismatic Association
to get them authenticated.

Second, if you decide you want to sell it, then you must learn about
coin grading to maximize your return.  If you don't want to learn,
then unfortunately the majority of dealers will take advantage of you.
If you can find a knowledgeable coin collector friend who is willing
to help you sell, that's a big help.

The different ways of selling all have advantages and disadvantages.
Dealers are almost always willing to buy, but offers will often vary
from dealer to dealer and offers will be lower because they have to
make a living.  Collectors will pay well if they really want something,
but the problem is finding them.  Auctions find collectors for you
and have them compete against each other, but there are commissions
and high-grade coins won't do well in small-time auctions and vice-versa.

Ideally, the coins should be divided into categories like junk, common,
high-grade, and rarities and each would be sold in the appropriate
channel.  I could go on and on...  Some last tips:  CompuServe's coin
forum is taking consignments for it's annual no-commission auction.
You could also hold your own e-mail-bid auction in rec.collecting.

Finally, when you go through your coins, I hope you get hooked on
collecting and don't sell it all.  That's the most fun!

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From: jdc3538@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.D. Cronin)
Subject: Question on old barbed wire.
Originator: jdc3538@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: isc
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:11:25 GMT



While clearing some old debris, I came across some old barbed wire.
It is a ribbon of iron or steel, twisted, with teeth every now and
then.

Is there any way to tell who made it or how old it is?  How does one
get in touch with people interested in barbed wire?  I'd like to hang
on to a short piece of it, but have no great use for large amounts
of barbed wire.

Thanks...Jim
jdc3538@ultb.isc.rit.edu
jdc@tropel.gca.com
From: mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Antique Databases
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:29:13 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Dec15.180816.12656@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>, jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath) writes:
> Do any of the dialup services (Compuserve, Genie, etc.) have an online
> antique price database?  

Lawrence is supposed to have one starting up sometime this year.  When
I get the info, I'll post it.

Nancy

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From: starr@titan.ucc.umass.edu (IRENE STARR)
Subject: Re: Stain removal and hammered aluminum
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:45:46 GMT

I am also interested in stain removal but for old tablecloths.  It is
easy to ruin old materials.

I collect hammered aluminum.  Have numerous trays and serving dishes.
Would like lamps, pins.  Also interested in sharing information with
others.

Irene Starr
Amherst, MA
starr@titan.ucc.umass.edu

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From: jsmith@owlnet.rice.edu (James Pope Smith)
Subject: old 78 records for sale
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:17:17 GMT

I have about 45 records for sale.  They are all 78 rpm and in good condition.
They sell for around $1.00 a piece.  Interested parties can get an email
listing of the titles from me.

James Smith
jsmith@owlnet.rice.edu
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Subject: Stain removal
From: ajones@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:12:07 GMT
Reply-To: ajones@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

Can anyone give me any recipes/techniques for removing stains from old quilts?Please respond directly to my Internet address.

Allan
From: howie@voodoo.boeing.com (howie)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Question about original Barbie Dolls
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:22:24 GMT
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA

I'm posting this question for a friend.  

Are original Barbie dolls (circa 1959) of any value to collectors?
I guess these dolls, along with accessories were stored away years ago
and are in very good shape.

Thanks for any assistance.

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From: sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sara Shelton)
Subject: coin collection
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:58:49 GMT



I recently inherited a somewhat extensive coin collection, and I know
very little about the stuff.  Apparently, it contains some rare pieces
such as 1943 *copper* pennies as well as silver treasury notes, bills
signed by some treasurer who didn't serve but a short time, bills
with red seals, coffee cans full of "liberty" coins, and pennies by
the roll.  I haven't even looked at it all!

I have two basic questions:  

a)  How do I go about getting the collection appraised?  I have it in
safe deposit boxes, but I may need to have it insured.  Should I even
bother with having it appraised/insured, or am I being paranoid? 


b)  If I should ever decide to sell anything, how would I do so?
Contact a dealer, stand on a streetcorner,.... ;-)


Any help would be appreciated!


Sara
sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: nacho@dec5120h.ccs.northeastern.edu (Nacho Silva-Lepe)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: coin collection
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:18:26 GMT
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University

In article <Bz98A2.6so@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sara Shelton) writes:

   I recently inherited a somewhat extensive coin collection, and I know
   very little about the stuff.  Apparently, it contains some rare pieces
   such as 1943 *copper* pennies as well as silver treasury notes, bills
   signed by some treasurer who didn't serve but a short time, bills
   with red seals, coffee cans full of "liberty" coins, and pennies by
   the roll.  I haven't even looked at it all!

   I have two basic questions:  

   a)  How do I go about getting the collection appraised?  I have it in
   safe deposit boxes, but I may need to have it insured.  Should I even
   bother with having it appraised/insured, or am I being paranoid? 


   b)  If I should ever decide to sell anything, how would I do so?
   Contact a dealer, stand on a streetcorner,.... ;-)


   Any help would be appreciated!


   Sara
   sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

I am not an authority in the field either. A couple of things come to mind.

-  1943 pennies were not made of copper but of steel, to save the copper for
the war.

-  You may want to post to rec.collecting, where you can get advice. You can
also advertise whatever coins you want to sell, if and when you decide to
sell.

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From: lmh@iago.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: coin collection
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:10 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
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In article <Bz98A2.6so@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sara Shelton) writes...
> 
>I recently inherited a somewhat extensive coin collection, and I know
>very little about the stuff.  Apparently, it contains some rare pieces
>such as 1943 *copper* pennies as well as silver treasury notes, bills
>signed by some treasurer who didn't serve but a short time, bills
>with red seals, coffee cans full of "liberty" coins, and pennies by
>the roll.  I haven't even looked at it all!
> 
 It doesn't sound particularly valuable from that brief description,
but you never know. I doubt that you have several 1943 copper pennies
(try a magnet on them). 
 In coin and paper money collecting and investing, condition (which you
do not mention at all) is of prime importance.
 Most dealers will want to buy the rarer items and give you a price based
on those, picking up the common material for near face value. Why? Because
they already have so much common stuff it is costly to tie up money in it.
 For starters I suggest you repost your question to rec.collecting, using
COINS: in the subject line.

larry henling  lmh@shakes.caltech.edu
From: gunter@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Gunter Ahrendt)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Where to find an Antique Radio?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 05:15:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

Hi, i'm hoping someone might be able to give some clues as to where to find a
certain antique radio. I'll be travelling around the US next year, so addresses
in any major cities would be fine, even in Canada!

I am not a collector myself, but would like to buy a specific model for a
friend, it should be in the best possiblt condition.

What i'm looking for is a mid-late 1940's Emerson Black Plastic Radio, they are
emblazoned with a gold G clef on the face.

Any help (even an idea on cost) would be appreciated!

Please reply via Email, i don't get to read news much.
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From: Michael.Bohl@launchpad.unc.edu (Michael Bohl)
Subject: Royal Douton's "Dickens Ware"--Looking For
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:03:32 GMT

I am looking for pieces of old dishes which have Dickens characters on
them, particularly Dickens Ware.  If anyone knows of the whereabouts of
some please email me.  Thanks.

Mike B.

102mbohl@uncsphvx.bitnet


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From: kurt@bison.imagen.com (kurt kasten)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: coin collection
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:45:21 GMT
Reply-To: kurt@bison.imagen.com (kurt kasten)
Organization: imagen

In article <1992Dec14.223720.24844@infonode.ingr.com>, florence@infonode.ingr.com (John Florence) writes:
|> In article <NACHO.92Dec14111826@dec5120h.ccs.northeastern.edu>, 
|> nacho@dec5120h.ccs.northeastern.edu (Nacho Silva-Lepe) writes:
|> > 
|> >    Sara
|> >    sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
|> > 
|> > I am not an authority in the field either. A couple of things come to mind.
|> > 
|> > -  1943 pennies were not made of copper but of steel, to save the copper for
|> > the war.
|> 
|> 		MAYBE THAT'S WHY THEY ARE SO RARE     8*{)
|> 
|> 	O.K. Guys/Gals....did I beat everyone to the punch ???   8{)
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When I was a kid, I saw '43 copper penny at a coin show.  It was the show's
highlight.  They do exist but are extremely rare and extremely valuable.
From: jca@druwa.ATT.COM (Jill C. Arnson)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: coin collection
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:40:34 GMT

in article <NACHO.92Dec14111826@dec5120h.ccs.northeastern.edu>, nacho@dec5120h.ccs.northeastern.edu (Nacho Silva-Lepe) says:
> In-Reply-To: sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu's message of Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14: 58:49 GMT
> Nntp-Posting-Host: dec5120h.ccs.northeastern.edu
> 
> In article <Bz98A2.6so@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sheltons@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sara Shelton) writes:
> 
>    I recently inherited a somewhat extensive coin collection, and I know
>    very little about the stuff.  Apparently, it contains some rare pieces
>    such as 1943 *copper* pennies as well as silver treasury notes, bills

> -  1943 pennies were not made of copper but of steel, to save the copper for
> the war.

	There were SOME copper 1943 copper pennies made.  NOt many and if they
are in good condition are probably worth quite a bit.  Myself, I just have a
mess of the 1943 steel ones.

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From: jerome.yuzyk@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Jerome Yuzyk) 
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: LABORATORY GLASSWARE
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: jerome.yuzyk@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Jerome Yuzyk) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241

Hello all.  My friends think I am a weirdo because I collect old and modern
examples of basic laboratory glassware.  Graduated cylinders, Ehrlemeyer
flasks,
Beakers, Thermometers, specialty glassworks, you know, the stuff in mad
scientist movies.  A few years ago, I came across some pieces from about the
1930s, and my collecting interests have broadened to include things from years
ago (I was too young and foolish to realize these things were done _even_back
then_).  The problem is, up here there are few old facilities, and most of the
`antiques' sold in various shops and bazaars are imported from the
Northeastern
US, if you can believe it.  So finding the oddball type of collectibles I'm
interested in can be a problem.

Is there much of this type of stuff (old laboratory glassware) available?

Thanks.


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From: joe@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Joe Lestardo)
Subject: Abe Lincoln photo, help!
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:16:32 GMT


 Please help in dating/identifying my Lincoln photo and proper care technigue
 I have no clue as to the origin.
 The photo is about 5x7, printed on a cardboard-like backing paper material.
 photo is black & white (of course) but brownish tones and shading.
 lower right hand corner has 1/4 of a circular impression stamp, as if one
 stamp/ seal would intersect 4 photos when lab ran print. All I can make out
 is corporation (or partial corpora???).
 On examination photo has very fine marbled like cracks, which I fear will
 eventually blister and peel. Yellowing of photo is evident.
  The seating of Abe is formal, Very good detail, close-up, left profile.
 He looks rather fatiqued and wearing formal black tie & jacket, white shirt.

 I love the photo and it's old frame w/rippled glass. It hangs in my home
 and gets many compliments and inquiries. 

 Any ideas on its origin and proper care??
 thanks for assistance 
 
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From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Subject: Re: Glass kewpie
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:51:26 GMT

For what it is worth --

A friend bought one that is identical to yours in description about eight
years ago.  At that time she paid nine dollars for it (and I believe that
the price was about what one of her catalogues listed it for at that time).

Based on that, I'd guess that you are in pretty good shape if you paid under
$20 for it -- it has probably doubled in cost (more from inflation than an
increase in value) since then.

For MOST items -- but especially those under, say, $100 -- the real value of
them is what a willing buyer will pay a willing seller.  In other words, the
value is largely determined by *you*.  If it was worth $50 to you to buy it,
then that is what it is worth (if you intend to keep it).  If you intend to
re-sell it, then the value is determined by what someone else will pay you 
for it.

"Book values" for antiques are, in most cases, hardly more than approximates
at the time the book was written (by the time it was published, then read by
you, the price may have changed up or down).  They are based on comparable
values or "expert" judgement.  Comparable values are nothing more than
statements of what like items *have* sold for in the past (by and to people
just like you).  How many glass Kewpies do you think are on record as being
sold?  Probably not too many, as these are not the kinds of items that the
larger auction houses handle (and keep records of selling -- that is why
more expensive items are easier to appraise with some accuracy).  That leaves
the "expert" judgement (sometimes from self-appointed experts) of someone
who has seen enough of a variety of antique items (sometimes of a specialized
type) to determine the "book" value of an item like your Kewpie.  Some of
these are especially reliable, and some are ballpark, at best.

If you really feel like you got a bargain on the interesting little glass
Kewpie you bought, because it is worth that to you to own it, then I suspect
that you *did* get a bargain.  Enjoy it!

BTW - I don't know if they are being repro'ed.  I suspect not, though, because
I just don't see them very often, and they are not selling for any inordinate
amount of money yet.  Still, you never know.

BTW, BTW - I don't know what your "up north" comment meant.  A good bit of the
glassware that has been repro'ed is from West Virginia.  ;-)
From: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: E.D.E.N. Southworth books
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:53:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


I am always interested in buying novels by Mrs. E(mma) D.E.N. Southworth.
She wrote circa 1850s-80s and her books were reprinted widely. In many
years of collecting, I have yet to see a first edition and would love to, but
reprints are fine.

I am only willing to pay a modest price for these books. They are by no stretch
of the imagination rare or valuable (except to me and a little old lady in
Indiana, as far as I know). I usually pay $3-5 each for them, including postage,
depending on condition, etc. I've seen them WAY overpriced in some shops, most
likely because the reprints have very appealing color illustrations pasted on
their covers and they "look" like "antiques" to the unschooled seller.

If you have any of these books to offer, please e-mail me and I will respond
promptly. You might check your grandma's attic/basement...these were big sellers
right into the first decade of the 20th century.

Thanks!

Linda Zinn
e-mail to: au500@cwru.edu
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