HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 3c501 cards
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:42:01 -0800

 > I have recently come into a rather large quantity of
 > 3c501 cards
 > (~30).  I would be happy to sell them for $20 plus
 > shipping.  Buy 5 or
 > more and get a discount!  I realize that currently the
 > 3c501 drivers
 > haven't been released even in alpha yet, but I have
 > been given to
 > understand that they are in progress.

I am not familur with that card, what is it, 8 bit, 16 bit?

 * Origin: Intermittent Connection, Eugene OR 503-344-9838 (1:152/35)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ianj@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Ian Justman )
Subject: Re: uucp and seg fault in write()
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822    Sacramento CA.  USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:55:24 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan) writes:
: Although Taylor UUCP 1.04gamma compiles fine, there is the same problem
: of seg faults in write() as others have said with 1.03 and 0.98pl5.
: 
: No ideas?

If you are using the "-fwritable-strings" switch, and you are still getting
segmentation faults, you need to look in the configuration file (not fam-
iliar with 1.04, but I know 1.03 only too well  :-) ) and look for something
like "HAVE_SIGACTION".  These #defines tell the comipler how UUCP should han-
dle signals.  You need to say no to all of the defines, at which point the
code will assume that you want signal() instead of sigaction(), sigvec(),
or sigset().  From what Linus has told me, however, if you get version 4.2
of the shared libraries, your segmentation faults due to sigaction()
should go away.  I have yet to try this so I have to bug my sysadmin (he's
the one with FTP access, not me  :-( ; BTW, Joel, HINT, HINT!!!!!) into
FTPing the latest shared libraries.

-- 
Born to void warranties!	ianj@ijpc.UUCP
From: droese@lif.de (Jan-Olaf Droese)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: [Q] How to set a timezone?
Date: 11 Dec 92 09:37:26 GMT
Reply-To: jano@layla.RoBIN.de
Organization: Lahmeyer International, Frankfurt

In article <1992Dec9.002743.3085@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>In article <9212074947@layla.RoBIN.de>, jano@layla.RoBIN.de (Jan-Olaf Droese) writes:
>|> I just compiled elm2.4PL2 without many problems. However, I can't get
>|> elm to use the right timezone.
>|> I thought setting TZ=MET-1MST in /etc/profile and exporting it should set
>|> my local timezone. 
>
>Use time stuff, which should be in SLS.

Maybe it wasn't included in my (quite old) version?

>|> Do I miss something serious, or should this really be a bug somewhere in
>|> the C-library Routines?
>|> (I'm using the gcc2.2.2 as it was distributed with SLS 0.98.1, my kernel is
>|> 0.98.1)

>If you use the time stuff in libc.a, everything should be automatic. Checkout
><time.h> and use the functions there. Could you please try
>
>date

Of course I did! It doesn't give me a timezone either.
Somone wrote I would need time.tar.Z. I will probably try to get it now.

>H.J.

JanO
-- 
Jan-Olaf Droese                    Lahmeyer Internation GmbH
                                   Lyoner Str. 22
email: droese@lif.de               6000 Frankfurt am Main
phone: +49-69-6677-673             Germany
From: ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Switching off (was: How stable is extended filesystem?)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:44:08 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Reply-To: ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

In article <FRIDLUND.92Dec16154814@stingray.micro.umn.edu> fridlund@mermaid.micro.umn.edu (Jim Fridlund) writes:
>Yeah, never
>reboot without a 'sync'.  This is true for all unix box.  I wait till
>I see Linux 'sync' before I do a system reset.  NOTE:  I don't do
>system reset unless necessary.

Even switching off after a sync can be dangerous.  Suppose some
background job starts messing the file system after you've just done
sync...

I'd strongly advise using /etc/shutdown. If you don't usually have a root
session running, create a user whose sole function is to shut the machine
down (use a name like off :-). The login shell for that user should
check wether it is being called from a secure tty, then exec /etc/shutdown now.

Umm, you'd probably have to add this user to /etc/shutdown.allow or
whatever, or give this user root privileges, I'm not too sure.

Note: He who can pull the plug should have a legal way of bringing the
system down.
-- 
Thomas Koenig, ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
From: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: libX11.so.2.1 -- where?
Keywords: libX11.so.2.1 X xconquer
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:29:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b63519.student.cwru.edu

I FTPd xconquer from sunsite and installed it, but when I try to run it it 
complains about not being able to find libX11.so.2.1 and dies. I looked 
around, and found a libX11.so.2.0 in my /lib directory, so I assume that all 
I need to do is get an update and put it in there. However, I can't seem to 
find _any_ version of this file in tsx-11 or sunsite. Could someone please 
point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

Back to installing 0.99...I love Linux...a real OS at last!
-----
Damien Neil   dpn2@po.cwru.edu    "Until somebody debugs reality, the best
Case Western Reserve University    I can do is a quick patch here and there."
CMPS/EEAP double majoring masochist               - Erik Green
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: Zip for distributions?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:47:51 GMT

In article <1gku45INN8qo@life.ai.mit.edu> mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum) writes:
>
>The free `Zip' utility, and it's compress-like son `Gzip' get
>significantly better compression than the traditional `compress'.  Is
>there any particularly good reason not to use them for distributions?

Forgive them father, for they know not what they do.  About 6 months
ago this was about 5 week flame fest.  Do *not* start it again. Please?

Let me try to nip it in the bud by summarizing the last one:

Zip-lovers: zip is better compression, why not use it?
compress-lovers: compress is faster and the unix standard
zip-lovers: but its *ancient*. and doesn't work anywheres near as well
compress-lovers: nope. too slow. its not the way things are done.
lha-lovers: hey what about lha! its faster than zip *and* better compression
zip & compress lovers: SHUT UP.
lha-lovers: okay. never mind.
ftp admins: compress/tar is the standard and we are going to use it on
 out archives.  we are not going to change the way we run our archives
 because of a flame war on comp.os.linux. do what you like on your own
 systems.
zip & compress lovers: oh, that is a good idea.

there. thats the summary. do what you like on you own system but the
rest of the world probably isn't going to change. please let this die...

please? 

followups to me. 
jem.

-- 
Jonathan Magid     jem@sunSITE.unc.edu       sunSITE Administrator
Virtual pizza Delivery (tm)::faxed in 30 cycles or less or you get it
----------------------------------------FREE!!!-----------------------
From: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Help! 0.99 won't boot!
Keywords: 0.99, mount
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:31:43 GMT
Reply-To: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: U. S. Naval Academy

I too have been having problems getting 0.99 to boot, although I haven't
seen exactly my problem posted.  So here is my story . . .

1.  CONFIG WOES:  I did have a little trouble getting 0.99 to compile.
The make bombed out with filesystems.a not being created.  I looked at
the Makefile in linux/fs and saw that a new variable SUBDIRS_FS had
been introduced, and apparently was being set by a bunch of ifdef stuff
at the beginning.  Trouble was, 'make config' never asked me what filesystems
I wanted, and the .config it generated didn't have anything about SUBDIRS_FS.
I finally just got rid of all the ifdef stuff and put in a line
SUBDIRS_FS = minix efs msdos proc nfs
at the beginning of the Makefile.  That at least got everything to compile.
(BTW, why not have 'make config' take care of the national keyboard stuff?
That's the only thing I had to edit in the top Makefile by hand.)

2.  Took my shiny new Image, put it in /etc, ran /etc/lilo/install, and
rebooted.  Disaster.  I got all the usual boot-up messages, and right after
'Partition tables ok' things came to abrupt halt with

Kernel panic:  Unable to mount root

Well, I thought, it's probably because I need to apply Linus's two-line
patch.  So I did that, recompiled the kernel and tried to boot again.
Same result.

3.  Next I thought that perhaps my 'mount' is too old.  It's the one from
the 0.97pl2 MCC-interim distribution I started with.  So I got mount-0.97
from tsx-11, and successfully compiled mount, umount, and swapon.  They
work fine with 0.98pl6 (as did my old ones), but with 0.99 I get the same 
result as before.

4.  So I'm stumped, and hereby beg the Net for help.  Here is my hardware
setup:
Zenith Z-386, 16 MHz 386DX + Cyrix 387, 5 Mb Zenith proprietary RAM 
(no cache)
2 40 Mb MFM hard disks, partitioned as follows
/dev/hda1   DOS (yuck)
/dev/hda2   minix fs mounted on /usr/local
/dev/hdb1   minix fs mounted on /
/dev/hdb2   minix fs mounted on /usr
/dev/hdb3   swap
I'm booting with LILO 0.7.  My compiler is GCC 2.2.2d7 with the 4.1 jump 
tables.
I've successfully upgraded the kernel from 0.97pl2 to 0.98pl6, so it's
kinda weird to have it blow up now.  Any help is appreciated!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
     1     1     1     1     1                   57 Sqrt(2) Pi^5
1 + --- - --- - --- + --- + ---- - - + + ...  =  ----------------
    3^5   5^5   7^5   9^5   11^5                    (4^5)(4!)
  
Prof. Mike Hoffman                   EMAIL:  meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.MIL
Dept. of Math., U.S. Naval Academy   PHONE: (410) 267-3192
Annapolis, MD 21402-5002             FAX:   (410) 267-4883
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Zip for distributions?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 02:48:31 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


In article <1992Dec15.194751.5379@samba.oit.unc.edu>
jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:
>
> compress-lovers: compress is faster and the unix standard
> [...]
> compress-lovers: nope. too slow. its not the way things are done.

This is a fallacy.  On machines I have tested, `unzip' is actually
significantly faster than `tar -zx'.  `zip' is slower, but so what?  I
said `distributions', not `backups'.

Feh.

Convince me that reducing the amount of cruft I need to download and
transfer on *floppy disks* to bring a machine up isn't worthwhile.  Or
at least try.

-- 
 \  /   Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
 /\ \   PGP public key available on request.  MIME, AMS, NextMail accepted.
Scheme  White heterosexual atheist male (WHAM) pride!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Subject: Re: DOCUMENTATION : state of?
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:19:58 GMT

p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk writes:
>We all know that Christmas is coming up quick and the New year 
>thereafter, Now I know that Linus wants desperately to shove version
>1.0 out the door about this time to make Christmas rather a good time 
>for all those who have now devoted upwards of 3000 hrs personal time
>into linux.

>	I'd like to know where the documentation stands on this.

Unless somebody mails me in the next couple of days a complete set of
documentation, it won't be ready for Christmas, and probably not for
at least a couple of months (say, until _next_ Christmas or so :).
There's an awful lot of to be written.

This is not to say that we won't have anything done.  I assume many
people will do a lot of writing during the holidays, but it just isn't
possible to write a book in a couple of weeks and write it well.

I intend to release "alpha" versions of the documentation when there
is something that is worth showing people.  When, I don't know.
Hopefully in January.  This should have at least extended outlines of
everything done so far, and hopefully a set of manual pages and such
stuff.  Don't rush me about it.

>	Is there a collective site that all the documentation to date
>is stored? I can find lots of it piece-meal strewn over 4-5 sites but
>not as a collective whole

Not that I know of.  I'll announce it properly when something comes
out of the doc project.

Your friendly (?) doc project coordinator.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi  (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
   MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.


PS.  If you want to write something, mail me.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: chuck@perlab.eas.asu.edu (Chuck Lunskis)
Subject: root login refused on some terminals, can't see kermit prompt.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:16:28 GMT

I've got two problems, that I can't solve... I've look in the FAQ, and
didn't see anything related to either, so here goes...

Why is root login refused on some terminals?  I've encountered this in
two places. first, I've added a couple extra getty calls in inittab so I can
login to tty5 and tty6, but if I try to login as root, I get the message
 "root login refused on this terminal."  Same thing happens if I try to login
as root from an xterm.  What do I need to do to fix this?

Second problem I've seen mentioned in the past, but apparently missed the 
solution...  I'm using minicom, and when I start up kermit, I never see the 
kermit command prompt.  How to fix this?

I'm running version 0.99.

Thanx in advance for any help.

Chuckster
+----------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
|chuck@perlab.eas.asu.edu                |   God is love;                     |
|                                        |     Satan is 30 and up one set.    |
|  Chuck Lunskis                         |                                    |
+----------------------------------------+------------------------------------+


--
+----------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
|chuck@perlab.eas.asu.edu                |   God is love;                     |
|                                        |     Satan is 30 and up one set.    |
|  Chuck Lunskis                         |                                    |
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ssb1pzp@access.digex.com (Phil Perucci)
Subject: 0.98pl6 Kernel Question?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 15:29:34 GMT

Hello fellow kernel makers!

  Questions: 1) With 0.98pl6 and LILO 0.6 (can't get 0.7 to compile),
                should I use the US keyboard in Makefile if I am 
                resident of USA.  I know this sounds stupid, but with
                "vmlinux" kernel I got with GCC, emacs arrow keys work.
                With mine, they don't.

             2) Again, 0.98pl6 and LILO 0.6;  I have tried every
                combination I can think of in Makefile with SVGA...
                variable.  Still I get weird 132 column text mode
                on my paradise VGA card.  More frustrating still,
                I can't get my image to prompt for video type when
                booting.  I tried commenting out the variable to
                no avail...

  My config: 1) 486/33 AMI motherboard, AMI BIOS
             2) Paradise VGA (no SVGA)
             3) GCC distribution of Linux.  Laid "libc.so.4.2" and
                "inc41.tar" on top.  No SLS stuff being used at this
                time.

   Note:     1) Kernel compiles quite easily, just would like to kill
                bugs listed in "Questions" above.


Any takers?  Sure would appreciate it!
             ------------------------

--
phil perucci
ssb1pzp@digex.com
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Phil Perucci
ssb1pzp@digex.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: emlee@panix.com (Edward M. Lee)
Subject: /etc/psdatabase
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:22:26 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


Dear linuxers,

I inadvertently blew away my psdatabase.  Suggestions on getting a new
one?  Or creating one?  Thanx.  Running SLS 98P5.

--
Edward M. Lee
emlee@panix.com
-- 
Edward M. Lee
emlee@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: keithf@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu (Keith Fuller)
Subject: QQ: bc on linux?
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:41:59 GMT

Here is my Quick Question:

Has anyone written bc, the arbitrary precision
calculator for linux?

Thanks!
Keith Fuller
______________________________________________________________________________
keithf@mcs.kent.edu
Keith Fuller
"What's up?"          Obtaining an MA in        Ich bin ein Virus.
"Gimme five!"         Computer Science from     Mach' mit und kopiere
"Have a nice day!"    Kent State University     mich in Deine .signature.
From: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 0.99 boot problems (was Re: sls install problems)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:37:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b63519.student.cwru.edu

In article <78369@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccasted@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Deering Boykin) writes:
>   I rebooted using the boot floppy and I got the initial boot screen
>but it stoped there. This is what it said. Some stuff is abbrieviated:
>
>It found all three of my serial ports.
>8 virtual consoles
>lp_init: lp0 exists(0)
>scsi: 0 hosts
>scsi: detected 0 disks 0 tapes 0 cd-roms
>memory 7168k/8192k available 540k kernel 384k reserved 100k data
>Floppy drive(s) fd0 is 1.2m    (should it have found my 1.44m floppy)
>floppy: FDC version 0x90
>sock_init: initializing family 1 (AF-UNIX)
>sock_init: initializing family 2 (AF-INET)
>Loopback device init
>Warning WD8013 board not found at i/0 280
>hda
>  my primary partition dos
>  my extended partition
>   5 my logical dos drive
>   6 my linux filesystem
>   7 my linux swap
>    (* all number are correct for these partitions*)
>partition table ok
>general protection 0000
>EIP: 0008: 0000B6C4
>EFLAGS: 00010286
>fs: 0017
>base: C0000000, limit 000A0000
>pid: 1, process nr: 1
>8b 13 85 dZ 74 27 83 3a 02 74
>
>
>it hangs at this point?

I get the strong impression that a fair number of people are having problems 
of this nature. I get the same message when I try to boot off of a disk with 
0.99 installed on it. (I'm using 0.98p5 right now.) What is going on? Has 
anyone encountered this and solved it?

Please post rather than mail since this seems to be a common problem right 
now.

Thanks in advance for any help -- I'd love to get 0.99 running before I have 
to leave for vacation!
-----
Damien Neil   dpn2@po.cwru.edu    "Until somebody debugs reality, the best
Case Western Reserve University    I can do is a quick patch here and there."
CMPS/EEAP double majoring masochist               - Erik Green
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mleech@bnr.ca (Marcus Leech)
Subject: Re: LINUX, Unix, and opportunity for change
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Information Techology Division
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:01:43 GMT

In article <BzGv65.KKI@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil>, dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci) writes:
|> Then again, let me say I am quite grateful for what has already been
|> accomplished.  Thank-you Linus!!!
|> 

Lest anyone think my post was a shot at Linux and its progenitors--that's
  *not* what I intended.

I see Linux a completely fresh implementation of a Unix-esque system.
  It strikes me as an opportunity to fix many of the long-standing 
  problems with Un*x, and to address those areas that the commercial Un*x
  vendors have been either too timid, or too stupid to address.

I think that what Linus and the assembled multitudes here have done is a
  tremendous testament to the vitality of the free sofware "industry". Let's
  leverage that vitality, and build something truly fresh and exciting.

Were it not for the fact that I have a job where everything I create is
  owned by my employer, I'd be as busy as Linus; contributing, rather
  than just pontificating.  [Though it's certainly not unheard-of around
  here to be able to release freeware, just rather rare].

-- 
Marcus Leech, 4Y11             Bell-Northern Research  |opinions expressed
mleech@bnr.ca                  P.O. Box 3511, Stn. C   |are my own, and not
ml@ve3mdl.ampr.org             Ottawa, ON, CAN K1Y 4H7 |necessarily BNRs
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@hammer.prime.com (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Yes, the Dimond Stealth works in 1024x768 
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:22:52 GMT

In article <badger.724106648@phylo>, badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) writes:
> >   My Diamond Stealth works fine with 640x480x256, but I am unable to
> >   get a higher resolution out of it. 
> 
> >Uhoh, the poor wretch is S***t Out of Luck. 
> 
> >The trick of getting the clock freq. right on Diamond Stealth is by
> >doing some heavy, trade-secret, wizardry that the manufacturer won't
> >talk about. This means that Linux won't support Diamond Sealth.
> 
> It is time to clear up this confusion. The Diamond Stealth works fine
> in 1024x768x256 -- the trick is to run Windows first (in 1024x768). This sets
> the clocks.

See, I told you someone else besides me has done this!

> What we really need is a program that can set the clocks within Linux. I often
> think the reason this hasn't been written is philosophical rather than
> technical. Many people have the absurd belief that writing something like
> this would send the wrong message to Diamond that their policies are OK. 
> Diamond's policies are bad, I agree. But I can assure you that they could
> not care less about the very small Linux user base -- refusing to support 
> their cards is NOT going to bring about a change. 

I've got Frank Klemm's code.  When I get some time (I'm taking two weeks
vacation starting next week, that should be enough!) I'll try it out and see
what happens!

> Telling us "sell your Stealth" is obviously a pretty unrealistic solution.
> Most of us can't afford to sell hardware every thirty seconds when some
> piece of software or another doesn't support it.

Agreed.  I guess the really surprising part is that while other vendors
are following up their S3 86C911 based cards with other S3 based follow-ons
(either 928 based or 801 based) Diamond seems to have switched teams
with their SS24X by going to Western Digital.  I'm not hearing much
about the Stealth-24 anymore.  Does it exist?  Are there any others coming?
Does anyone care?  Ooops, I guess not.  Sorry.

=================================================================
Kevin J. Cummings                       ComputerVision Services
20 Briarwood Road                       500 Old Connecticut Path
Framingham, Mass.                       Framingham, Mass.
					
Home:  cummings@kjc386.framingham.ma.us	Work:  cummings@primerd.Prime.COM

Std. Disclaimer: "Mr. McKittrick, after careful consideration,
		  I've come to the conclusion that your new
		  defense system SUCKS..."   --  War Games
=================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux