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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Adobe/Sun Announce
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:29:29 GMT
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus

In article <1992Sep28.163058.6642@RedBrick.COM> jfr@RedBrick.COM () writes:
> In article <2097@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)  
writes:
> >
> >Ha, Ha Ha Haaaaaa, Ha HA HA, Haaaaaaa!
> >
> >Oh, btw, how is Sun making DisplayPostScript run on those X terminals?
> 
>   This is not a very difficult thing to do.  X11R5 has the ability to
>   support extensions to X, including such things as Font Servers and
>   Display Postscript managers.  The actual extension will run on an
>   X-client machine since most X-servers will not have the extension
>   directly available (although it is possible that X terminals will
>   start to support some of these extensions directly).  

That's not how I remember it.  The extension has to be supported 
on both sides of the 'wire'.  I run into a lot of "extension not supported on  
server" error messages when running DEC's DPS stuff on an Xterm.  Granted
that is some bastardized X11R[3,4] that DEC is using, not R5.

But, as you stated, NCD has stated support of Display PostScript so the point  
may be moot.

>   There is a potential impact on performance although I am not sure
>   pushing X primitives out to an X-server to support Postscript is that
>   much different from what a client application has to do now to get
>   complex graphics on an X-terminal and that sort of thing is done
>   all the time.
> 
>>[...]
>  
>   Getting Sun to make it work isn't brain surgery.  However, getting users
>   to adopt it is harder. 

The common rumor is since Sun sold a lot of systems via VARs that used SunView
as their development tool, a lot of Sun user's still don't even use OpenLook.

> NeXT already has 5 years or more invested in the
>   integration of Postscript with a very usable object-oriented application
>   development environment.  Sun and others are a long way from that.

I think the cogent thought here is that NeXT has fewer 'legacy' applications
to support.  Having Sun re-evangelize Display PostScript after it toned
down it's NeWS support is weak.

Also, Sun, et al, has to start selling systems to end users.  Ever notice how  
hard it is to change the font size on an xterm window?  Mere mortals can't do  
it.  A lot of NeXT's selling points to the common end user is the ability to
switch fonts on the fly on apps like Stuart and Terminal and Mail (a lot of  
blind people use computer nowadays).  Display Postscript will not sell the  
soap, until the development environment makes it too easy not to incorporate 
easy to use functionality.

-geoff
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Geoffrey Brunkhorst, RCF                    brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Guggenheim 10                                    (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905 USA     fax (507) 284-5231 
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Dropping bundled applications (was: Re: 3.0 and WriteNow)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:09:43 GMT

So, there is no confusion, I posted the following:

lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:

>alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:

>>In article <1992Oct2.091430.11860@ITcorp.com> geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning) writes:
>>> How come the release keeps getting bigger, yet the functionality
>>> continues to shrink?

>I am really amazed to see someone say such a statement.
[stuff deleted]

Just to clarify - Alex Blakemore did not write that, Geoff Kuenning
did.  I was a bit careless in my quoting. (should have deleted the
alex writes: line)
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From: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Subject: Re: Mathematica- can't get our passwords
Reply-To: Hal.Varian@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:07:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.130436.20940@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul  
S. Sears) writes:

> Things might be alittle  
> better if they provided a provision for temporary passwords that last a few  
> days so you can use Mathematica while your copy is getting officially  
> registered.
> --

That is a great idea!  I hope WRI picks up on it.

--
Hal.Varian@umich.edu    Hal Varian
voice: 313-764-2364     Dept of Economics
fax:   313-764-2364     Univ of Michigan
                        Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220
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From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Subject: Yellow Pages
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:35:48 GMT

Hi, it's me again - they guy trying to get a NeXT instead of a Sun.
Is anyone out there running yellow pages under 3.0?

Details please!

Also, is Cub X or coXist better?

Eric

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose)
Subject: More Hyperupic.app (!!!) Hoaxdom
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: TIFF, sound, transduction
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:34:16 GMT



Greetings Friends!

Yet another version of Hyperupic (v1.4), the TIFF image to sound transduction  
software for NeXT computers, is available via anonymous ftp:

princeton.edu	128.112.128.1
/pub/music/Hyperupic-1.4.tar.Z

it also lies in the submissions directories at sonata.cc.purdue.edu and  
cs.orst.edu.

This new version has added error checking, image display, oscillator tables  
specifiable with arbitrary soundfiles, stereo spatialization.  Wow you say.   
Snarf up this freeware quick, before ... well before you forget you can snarf  
up this software at absolutely no cost.  Source code is included as always.

Hyperupic (v 1.4) was built under NeXTstep 2.1. NeXTstep 3.0 compatible source  
code will be available sometime before the year ends.  The appwrap and binary  
seems to function smoothly under NeXTstep 3.0.

Christopher Penrose
effete ivy tower composeur
penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu
From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 3.0 FontPanel acceleration is broken (BUG!!?)
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:33:15 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <5335@rosie.NeXT.COM> aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.043034.213@parsec.mixcom.com> alberto@parsec.uucp writes:
>>From the Developer Release Notes/AppKit:
>>	  The FontPanel, when key, will select in the Family scrolling list when  
>>	   you type the first few characters of a family name.
>>Well, What am I missing here. When key (titlebar is black) typing will just  
>>change the size attribute rather than select the font. Anyone got a better way?
>
>This would work if you could ever get the size field not be selected. Unfortunately,
>you can't. 
>
>Rather than a bug, I'd call this a feature you can't use. Sigh.
>
>Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com

	Please don't take this personal, but ...

	If it's a feature, and it's a documented feature, and it doesn't work
as documented, then it's clearly a bug!  A bug, is a bug, is a bug!!!!

	Stop apologizing!  8^)  Remember, this is 3.0.  The .0 means that
it WILL (or is it MUST?) have bugs.  I'm amazed at the number of features that
were added to this release and how REASONABLY stable it is.  I think you guys
deserve a pat in the back or maybe even a belly-rub.  8^)

--Felix
From: fuchs@tsar.princeton.edu (Ira H. Fuchs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Can't sort READONLY directories using the Contents inspector under 3.0
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:57:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Oct3.175735.25362
Reply-To: fuchs@tsar.princeton.edu
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

Has anyone noticed (or care about) the fact that under 3.0 you can no  
longer use the WorkSpace->Tools->Inspector->Contents to sort directories   
that are READONLY. I assume this is because they want to write something  
in that directory to remember your preference. This used to work under  
2.1. You can, of course, always use the ls command and get the output  
anyway you like but the File Viewer was a convenient way to do this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: matt%mattcube@mcnc.org (Matthew M. Stecker)
Subject: Re: Playing Audio CDs
Reply-To: matt%mattcube@mcnc.org
Organization: UNC School of Law, CC for NeXT Computer, Inc.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 08:42:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.074144.9457@cs.brown.edu> rca@cs.brown.edu (Ronald C.  
Antony) writes:

> If you say "play an audio CD through the internal speakers of the
> NeXT" you probably mean also that it sounds as nice as CD-quality
> sound played off the hard- or optical disk. The answer for that is no.
> 

Well, the answer is 'no' as the machine comes out of the box.  With 
MetaResearch's Digital Ears DSP input product, you can do just that.

Kind of pricey for just playing music, but if you want to do any real time
signal processing, it can't be beat.  Wish I had one of my own.  We used
to do a great demo in which we pulled in sound off of a CD, through a
set of Digital Ears, and through Joe Freeman's digital equalizer program
(a nifty app which I think is in the PD), then out to speakers attached
to the back of the NeXT. (all in real time, with not-very-much performance
degradation because of the DSP's muscle)

In addition, there was some talk on the net a while ago about a way
(ways) to build your own Audio->Dsp box.  Anyone out there remember if
this worked?  Anyone know of a cheaper way to do this than Digital Ears?

Sorry for the rambling, but it just goes to show what happens to you
when you're up coding at 4:40am on Saturday Morning.  ;-)

Matthew Stecker
-- 
matt stecker			|	This is my NeXT Computer
NeXT Campus Consultant,		|	There are many like it,
UNC School of Law		|	but this one is mine.

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From: coco@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (felix.lugo)
Subject: Re: CRASHME crashes NS 3.0 in less than a second!!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:11:55 GMT
Keywords: crashme

In article <1992Sep30.152220.18225@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org> jr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Jochen Richter) writes:
>The user program CRASHME that is available from some ftp-servers
>crashes NS 3.0 in less than a second!!! That is the depressing 
>result of my tests. It's a shame that NS hasn't been tested with
>this in many magazines demonstrated user program. It produces
>many different system exceptions that have to be handled properly
>by the kernel...
>After the crash you can't even reach NMI! You have to use 
><Command><Alternate>*.
>

	The processor is hung!  That is what crashme is testing.  Crashme is
like drugs.  No matter what type you "run", it will always crash your brain.

	Your processor remained the same when you went from 2.x to 3.0.  If
crashme fucked-up in 2.x it will fuck-up in 3.0, 3.1, 4.0, and so on.  I
wonder if Motorola fixed the 040s used in the new (read Turbo/Nitro) machines.

	Anyone know if crashme WORKS on the 88100?

8^)

--Felix
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SLIP doesnt work
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:45:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.163636.5268@news.lrz-muenchen.de>  
yoda@next2.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Marc Guenther) writes:
> 
> 
> If I ping from home to the next at university, the modem dials,
> logs into the slip account, and the ping packets are transferred
> to the remote host, but none are sent back. The same thiing happens
> when I have started a background ping process at the remote host,
> the packets are sent to me, but none are sent back to the remote.

What you need to do is issue what is called a "proxy arp command" of the  
syntax:
 "/usr/etc/arp -s name.of.machine.at.home ethernet:address:of:campus:next pub"
So, a real one might look like:
/usr/etc/arp -s next.upenn.edu 0:0:f:71:0:73 pub

If this works, add it to rc.local at the end.

Good luck!

--
Mr. Noam Arzt                            215/898-3029 (voice)
Director, Special Projects               215/898-9348 (FAX)
University of Pennsylvania               arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK)
Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
From: rs05@asylum.gte.com (Russ Sasnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help: recovering next-mail
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:14:27 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

if all you want to do is move the mail
from a non-NeXT account to a NeXT account,
just mail the entire message to the NeXT 
account without touching the contents
at all. if your NeXTmail message is contained
in the file "foo.msg", you should be able
to say:

	mail myAccount@myNeXT < foo.msg

it would then show up as a regular NeXTmail
message in myAccount's mailbox.

when I get NeXTmail on my UNIX/X box at work, 
I tar the message file onto a floppy and take 
it home, where I then mail it to "me".

what the previous poster described (a lot of
uudecode, mv, tar, etc. commands) is only necessary
if you want to read NeXTmail on a non-NeXT
machine.

--Russ
From: bense@heart3.ucsd.edu (Booker C. Bense)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How Slow is NeXTSTEP 3.0 w/ 8 megs ram?
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:03:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: deadmin.2131
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @ UCSD

- I have both an '030 with 12meg and an '040 slab with 20meg. 
One thing I have found that greatly improves the speed of both
machines under 3.0 is to :

a.) Backup up everything and reload the disk from scratch. 


b.) Use the following when booting 

Next> bsd sdmach nbuf=64

or whatever suites your fancy, the default number of system buffers is
16. Using the nbuf keyword GREATLY improves the ablility of 3.0 to do
context switching. It's like going from an 8meg slab to a 20 meg slab.

- Some people have reported using as high a number as 1000. I use 64
since the rom will only remember 12 chars. I tried 99 for a while,
but there was no noticable difference between 64 and 99. 

- Booker C. Bense               "News, News, It's long, It's ASCII?,  
prefered: benseb@grumpy.sdsc.edu   It's Wood. News, News, It's better
NeXT Mail: benseb@next.sdsc.edu      than bad, It's Good!"  Ren&Stimpy
From: andrewd@tamsun.tamu.edu (Andrew T Duchowski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: help: printer under 3.0 won't turn on autmatically
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:18:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Sep29.181803.12758
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

I'm using that nifty nppower script that somebody put on the
archives some time ago to turn the printer off every 15 or so
minutes if the queue is empty.  It works nicely, but...

Under 2.0 any request to the printer (lpr or Print... from any
app) would automagically turn on the printer if it was found
that it was off.  Under 3.0 I find that when the printer is
off, it won't come on automagically, rather I have to launch
PrintManager and then make it Private to turn it on.

So the question is: Is there any way to get the printer to behave
like it did under 2.0, so that I don't have to launch PrintManager
all the time?

Thanks in advance -- please email; post optionally
Andrew
andrewd@cs.tamu.edu
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From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Is HSD still there?
Reply-To: mcarling@NetForce.com (M Carling)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: na,local
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 21:59:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.191606.3748@arizona.edu>  
d_mc%McCube.tucson.az.us@arizona.edu (Don McCollam) writes:
> Hi, folks,
> 
> Has anyone heard from HSD lately?  I've recently posted several e-mail  
> messages to them; but haven't gotten any replies.  HSD folks used to  
> respond promptly; so I'm a bit worried.

They were at Seybold.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
General Manager, NetForce Inc.
--
"High tech is potent, precise, and in the end, unbeatable. The truth is,  
it reminds a lot of people of the way I pitch horseshoes. Would you  
believe some of the people? Would you believe our dog? Look, I want to  
give the high-five signal to high tech."
                          George Bush, 4/25/89
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: zeke@znext (james dehnert)
Subject: using perl combine & extract to make alternate workspace.app
Organization: pnet
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:24:00 GMT

  I used the perl combine & extract scripts, along with the black hole info  
provided bt EPS to make myself an alternate Workspace.app in 2.1.  I managed to  
get the black hole back and get a cube to replace the station used for the root  
directory.  I haven't has time to try it yet under 3.0.  Has anyone else made   
combine & extract work for 3.0?

  I want my black hole back!!

  Zeke
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From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupt messages on '040 Cube
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:46:18 GMT

In article <12539@optilink.UUCP> brad@optilink.UUCP (Brad Yearwood) writes:
>Does anyone recognize the following console messages as being indicative
>of something going bad in the Ethernet interface of an '040 Cube?
>
>	en0: transmitter not ready
>	spurious DMA interrupt
>	Spurious DMA interrupt - state = 1000000 @ 2000110
>	Spurious DMA interrupt - state = 1000000 @ 2000110
>	spurious DMA interrupt
>	The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it.

We had similar problems with a couple of Cubes (running Release 2.1)
on a network.  In that case, the problem was worse; the machines would
frequently panic.  It turned out that we had a bad repeater, and an
excessively high number of collisions on that ethernet segment.  Once
we replaced the repeater, stuff returned to normal.

Now, it seems somewhat rude for the NeXTs on that segment to panic and
die to due excessive collisions.  Especially considering the 4
DECstation 5000 systems and a few other random boxes didn't do
anything untoward at the time...

louie
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From: curtis@accnxt1.tamu.edu (Curtis Johnson)
Subject: File Viewer - NXHost
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:11:56 GMT

Is there a way that I can -NXHost the file viewer from a NeXT onto my  
remote NeXTstation?  Any replies would help very much...

--
Curtis A. Johnson

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re:  Audio CDs on CD-ROM Drive
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:07:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.192653.26512@psisa.psi> ph@pencom.com (Patrick Hester)  
writes:
> In article <Bv3o9G.FGw.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)  
> writes:
> > In article <dillon.0o6s@overload.Berkeley.CA.US>  
> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon) writes:
> > >    Unfortunately, it is ILLEGAL to store or otherwise process (except  
> to
> > >    simply play) the RAW BINARY data from an Audio CD.
> > 
> > I don't believe this is true.  It's silly.
> > 
> > You mean if I have a digital equalizer and use the digital out port of
> > a CD player I'm doing something illegal?
> > 
> > If I do it in my own software rather than using a prebuilt componant
> > to do it, how is that different?
> > 
> > If I've got both a CD player and a DAT player, and I copy a CD onto
> > DAT *FOR* *MY* *OWN* *USE*, that's illegal?  That's not reasonable.
> > If I were to copy a CD for someone else, sure, that's piracy and it's
> > illegal.
> 
> When you copy from CD to DAT you are NOT getting direct digital transfer.
> You are introducing an analog step in between. So the CD reproduces  
> perfect analog signal which is then redigitized. There is some loss but  
> not enough to notice on a single copy.

If you use the digital ports on the DAT and CD, then the copy IS pure digital.   
An EXACT copy.  Which is no different under the law than an inexact copy, the  
copyright laws still apply exactly the same to DAT as to analog cassette, and  
8-track!  If you bought the CD, and use the copies yourself, it's not illegal.

Jim
From: roy@watserv.ucr.edu (Roy Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Terminal Options
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:57:07 GMT

I have already posted this to the usa distribution, but not receiving an  
answer, I have set it to world...


I was looking through the source of some App the other day and noticed that
there was a command to open up a Terminal. The command used was...

	Terminal -Shell blah blah blah...

Does anyone know if there are any other command line options to the Terminal
App. Looking through the documentaion did not provide me with any help.

Thanks,

Roy Brown
roy@watserv.ucr.edu
rbrown@ucrmath.ucr.edu

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From: adrian@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca (Adrian Smith)
Subject: Re: Call for Volunteers
Reply-To: adrian@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:19:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.022014.8445@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu  
(Jess Anderson) writes:
>
> Which will do this with your message, namely receive it
> and bounce it back with a badly malformed address.  *Often*!
> Really often.

Same here. I'm now up to 4 bounce messages.

--
Adrian Smith
University of Alberta NeXT Campus Consultant
adrian@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca
Audix: 5482
 
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From: kaw4t@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Kent A. Watsen)
Subject: Re: superglue and NeXT plastic case.....will it work ?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 05:03:56 GMT

>
>I tried to find commercial security products, but all the ones in our local
>computer stores looked hopelessly inadequate.  So I made some plates from
>tool steel, cut holes in them, and then epoxied some to the components of my 
>machine and a couple to my desk.  Then I locked through them with Kryptonite
>locks.  The cpu itself is locked down from both sides, so it's impossible
>to lift it to get at the screws.  I don't think it could be stolen without
>application of much time and patience or else industrial tools.  I took so
>much trouble over it because it's my machine, but sits in my graduate office
>which is usually open and to which hundreds of people have a key.  I wasn't
>sleeping too well at night without good security arrangements.

	You can purchase an item very much like the one discribed above, and
other fine security products (no, I'm not a sales rep), from Anchor Pad
Internatt (714-842-2378) part #2017.5300 (aka the LP 13x15 with Adapter Kit)
for $78.41.  Basically you drop your slab snug inside of this cradle, lock it
down, and never worry about somebody walking off with your CPU again.  As for
the monitor, one can purchase a plate which sticks to it (super glue?) and
then runs a cable down to an anchor.  However, I am sure somebody has
designed a cradle in which the monitor can drop into too.  I didn't opt for
this route though.

Kent@Virginia.edu