HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:59:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct8.235943.12113
Organization: dezful

In article <1992Oct8.023140.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:

>Here are a few more... See if you can guess them...
>
>	o  Oolaa	o  A`cheh	o  Le-Vaa	o  Kanee-saa
>	o  Eelaa	o  Mooflangi	o  Harrysaa	o  Kelek
>	o  Mi	     XX	o  Dolabb	o  ShavAdoon	o  Reet
>	o  Shoomee	o  Sar Oo	o  Gajjdoom

Not that I know anything about dezfuli, but could this word mean 'komod'
or as they say drawer?  We used to say 'doolAb.'

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Shahrokh's apology (flames, may wish to skip...)
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:19:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Oct15.010409.12704@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>In article <ldmpjtINNmbv@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>
>>ooooh!  have i made the emaam angry?  well hazrate seyed, i sincerely
>>apologize from the very heart of my bottom :).

...
>Therefore your apology is accepted! And no problem! I know that you are 
>very sincere and don't intend to make me angry. 
					  ~~~~~
i guess you still havent found the three words that end in -gry?  im
disappointed seyyed!

>After all, you are a very good clown. 

why thankyou!  i am most flattered.  with so much material to make fun
of (see below), you would make any amateur look good!  you are the sci
dan quayle.  besides, i firmly believe that allah has a great sense of
humor.  you are living proof of that hypothesis.

>If you keep working hard like this, you may even become "sar dalghak". 

and you keep your weekly death threats up and maybe you'll make it to 
the honorable position of 'sci sar jallAd' too!

>And best of all, it doesn't need brain! 

youre right, responding to your articles doesnt need much brain
involvement.  it puts my synapses to sleep and i barely employ my
spinal chord.

> I will recommend you for this job, but I don't promise anything.
				     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
but i promise that your promotion to 'sar jallAdi' will be swift
and without resistance!

>Seyyed.

with this, id like to introduce my new sigfile, consisting of 
famous sayings by seyyed (quick seyyed, bodo boro taghleed kon).


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shahrokh Mortazavi          	              smortaz@handel.eng.sun.com
Technical Development group	     Sun Microsystems / SunTech / SunPro
Languages Department		         2550 Garcia, Mt View, Ca, 94306

``If "beating" is the only solution to prevent a woman to go whereever
she wants, with whomever she likes, without the consent of her husband,
and finally become like a prostitute, isn't it legitimate?''

       						Seyyed Mahdavian
					        Book of Seyyedism 14:5
					        20th (yes, 20th) century 


whos reaaly in dire need of a brain transplant?  siiigh.
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Purpose of life
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:46:43 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati


the purpose in life is to obey God.

".. ma khalaqtu al-jinna va al-insa illa liya'bodoon..."

the quran


zafar
From: behrooz@cps.msu.edu (Roozbeh Behrooz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Mother of Iranian Cinema (Part 3)
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:16:41 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: behrooz@indian.cps.msu.edu

This is part three of the article "Mother of Iranian Cinema" From the 
magazine Gozaresh-e Film (Movie Review) published monthly in Iran.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Roghie Chehreh AzAd likes two "mothers". One is the role she played many years
back.  It was a comedy in which an old grandmother was invited to a wedding,
but because of all the crowd and chaos, her medicine was mixed up with some 
"other stuff".  The play was called "Minute by minute with a sugar spoon" or
"Grandma dances".

The second mother belongs to Ali HAtami's (director) film.  It's the story of
a mother who tries to bring back together her somehow alienated children on
the same "sofreh". It's the story of a mother with snow white hairs, indicating
the experience of many years behind her.

Chehreh AzAd considers that movie as her best work.  "I am satisfied and happy
with my role in that movie.  I did not think that it would turn out this good,
but when I watched it the first time, I liked it so much that I cried.  This 
role got me the "Crystal Seemorgh" for the best actress."

Mother of Iranian cinema continues with her memories and talks about 60 
years of stage work; sixty years of art, play, cry, and laughter, and that
after so many years even the "Crystal Seemorgh" which shines in her room 
does not satisfy her.  "I should have got that prize many years ago, but 
when I went on the stage to accept it, people applauded for all those 60
years of work.  I felt people really liked my work."

Because of all these encouragements, she still goes in front of camera and
as usual she is always early.  These days she plays in  the TV mini series
"Little Paradise".   "All those days, those plays, they went by so fast", she
says.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: samiri@encore.com (Soheila Amiri)
Subject: Re: Khuzistan and another quiz
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:06:19 GMT

michaelm@titanic.esd.sgi.com (Mike Mohageg) writes:

>etc.  But I remember one of my favorite snacks was a classical bit of
>"junk food."  The estakhr-e Segush (and beraim) use to sell these
>really tastey potato chips.  I don't know if you remeber, but they
>were pretty greasy and real crunchy.  After a full morning of playing
>zadani bala-ye dive (anyone remember that??!!) the chips went nicely
>with a Kuka (Coke).  So what's all this ranting about?

Yes I do remeber both estakhrs and the potato chips.  I also
rememebr "zadani bAlAye dive".  However, I've been trying so hard
to remember the name of the game in which two teams played, one inside
the water covering the width of the pool while every member of the
other team tried to dive/swim over them from outside and reach the
other side without being hit.  What was that game called?

Here's more AbAdAni trivia:

	- What did it mean when they said someone is "zAree"?
	- Do you know what "ho be-yo" is?
	- What is "seper-tAs"?
	- Where did the name "seek lane" originate from?
	- Who was a "bacheh KAmbeezy"?
	- Who was a "day-gol"?
	- What does the word "fogor" mean?
	- How about someone who was from "bakhsheh heejdah"?

Soheila
From: bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khomeini's tomb exploded
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:54:27 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Oct16.151244.6420@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
>In article farzin@apollo3.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:
>|> 
>|> 
>|> So far, I have not heard or read any confirmations of this from
>|> any source other than MKO but, in my view, the western media
>|> would want to report such an explosion, if it were true.
>|> Has anyone? If so, please quote from that source.
>|>           
>|>  - Farzin
>|>               
>
>
>I too had a hard time believing MKO,  but I called Iran and it was
>confirmed.  It was not as big as MKO described.
>
>quote from:  Ammeh Jon.   :-)

i don't know farhad. this sounds awfuly fishy. is your ammeh joon
a member of mko by any chance?

>
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behzad
From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:49:47 GMT
Subject: Re:Re: Seyyed's view of exiles
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Get back to your homework Shahrokh!
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:59:14 GMT

In article <ldjhgfINN9vs@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:

>well seyed jaan, from your refusal to answer my pending questions, 
>i can only assume that you have *finally* seen the light and have chosen
>to be silent vs admitting to - god forbid - being, ahem, wrong.

Why should I waste my time trying to teach elementary probability to you? Hey,
instead of interfering with a serious discussion that I am doing with others,
go back after your lost beyt and the two exercises that I gave to you, before
I get angry ...

Seyyed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Khomainie's Tomb Exploded
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:27:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.205558.27701@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>, Asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu writes:
|> I am delighted to report that, according to Mojahedin, three
|> bombs were exploded inside Khomainie's tomb yesterday. It
|> seems the tomb and surroundings were heavily damaged. I do
|> not have the details yet.  
|> 
|> Mobarak,
|> 
|> Asghar
|> 
|> 
|> 


For a second I thought you blow up khomaini's  SHaste pA,  oh well!  :)

Wow  so proud,  I wonder how many innocent people  got blown to skys.



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       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department                        /
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi)
Subject: Gif files on PCs
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:28:44 GMT


Anyone knows what type of software is needed to view gif files on PCs? 

Thanks
-Hossien
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Seyyed's view of exiles
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:38:40 GMT

In article seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
|> 
|>Farshid, you and lots of other people, are always welcome back to your
|>country.
|>Just stop mocking people, and don't get involved in political issues.
|>Keep your opinion for yourself. How do you know, maybe you are really
|>wrong! Don't destroy all the bridges behind yourself. Stick to your
|>field of knowledge and try to build your country. Look, your country
|>will not be built by accusing its political leadership and insulting
|>them in a foreign country. Don't choose the easy way of just "objecting".
|>Go to your country, and try to deal with real problems, and try to be
|>positive.
|> 
|> Seyyed.


What he means is,  be a SHEEP and do whatever your masters say.

Baa aaa aaa aaa aaa aaa aa

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       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
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From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:37:02 GMT
Subject: Re: What is freedom?
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:57:15 EDT
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Monty Hall Paradox (was Re: Physics-1A Question)
 <1992Oct7.211840.11410@EE.Stanford.EDU>
 <92281.200221RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> <1992Oct8.143504.2614@wuecl.wustl.edu>

In article <1992Oct8.143504.2614@wuecl.wustl.edu>, seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu
(Seyyed Mahdavian) says:
>
>In article <92281.200221RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> Reza Modarres
><RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>
>>     For a more recent discussion, see The American Statistician, Volume 45,
>>     Number 4, November of 1991( I think). Several incorrect solutions are
>>     analyzed as well. However, as posted before, there is no "correct"
>                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>     solution to the problem. It all depends on the hosts strategy or the
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>     number of assumptions you are willing to make. It can be said that
>>     it pays to switch (probability is at least a half).
>>
>>RezA
>
>That's because the problem, as stated by shahrokh, is vague and subject to
>different interpretations. If you pose the problem like this:
>        Suppose there are three doors and a prize behind one of them
>        with equal probability. You choose one. Then one door is chosen
>        from the other two "RANDOMLY" (i.e. without making decision
>        based on the knowledge of the prize being behind what door.
>        For example you choose always door #2) and "IT HAPPENS THAT"
>        it is empty. Now is it better to change your previous choice?
>In this case, my previous solution is absolutely correct, and it doesn't
>make any difference.
>
>Seyyed.
>
>p.s. Mack khAn, hAlA rAzi shodi? pass hAlA boro mahin-o bestoun tA oun ham
>     az to rAzi beshe. And also please next time don't give "references".
>     ye kam az khodet mAye bezAr bebinim rofaghA dar stanford chand mardeh
>     hallAjand.


    Seyyed,

     I wouldn't worry about it. This problem has a long history and has stumped
     the best probabilist/statisticians. It also appeared in Prade Magazin in
     a column by Marilyn von Savant who reportedly holds the world's highest
     IQ. She also analyzed the problem in the same manner that you did.
     It's trivial to see that the problem is dependent on the hosts strategy,
     however. A simple simulation based on the equiprobable assumption shows
     that the odds are 1/3 to 2/3. Here we go again with assumptions.:-)

RezA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Monty Hall Paradox (was Re: Physics-1A Question)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:04:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.164051.544@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:

>>kalak zadi nAgholA !!! I supposed that everything is done randomly!
>
>Then you didn't read the problem very carefully. Shahrokh, in his
>original post stated the problem as:
>
> => i open one of the other two doors, say door #2, and show you that 
> => there is no prize behind it.
>
>"...and SHOW YOU that there is NO PRIZE behind it...".
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No objection to that. It doesn't mean that he knew in advance that there is
no prize behind the door.

>
>And in my post, I stated the problem as:
>
> => You pick one door, but before you open it, Monty opens one of the two
> => remaining doors and shows that it hides a goat.
>
>"...and SHOWS that it hides A GOAT..."

See above.

>Do these imply that Monty is opening the door at random? 

Obviously they don't IMPLY so, but neither they IMPLY the other way.
That's why the problem is deceiving. However when you do not mention
anything, people are free to make natural assumptions. For example
when you say "a door is chosen at random" you implicitly mean with
equal probability. Sometimes "independence" is meant by that statement.
Instead of saying "Monty opens one of the doors ...", you should say
"Monty opens the particular door that he knows is empty ...".

>                                                         What if
>there is a prize behind it?

The problem says that you are lucky and there is NOT a prize there, so
don't worry about this. :-)

>>Nobody
>>said that the boxes are oppened according to a particular strategy.
>
>See above.

See see above :-)

This discussion reminds me another puzzle:
Name something that is green, is on the tree, and says ghoor ghoor ...
Answer: It's a fish which has been colored and put on the tree, and
the "ghoor ghoor" is the deceiving point (nokteye enherAfi) of the
problem.

Seyyed.
From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:46:22 GMT
Subject: Seyyed the great egalitarian
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Organization: Abadan Dictionary
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:05:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.183859.27344@odin.corp.sgi.com> michaelm@titanic.esd.
sgi.com (Mike Mohageg) writes:
>
>Folks,
>
>Ala mentions Baghsaam, Hooshyar mentions "estore", and mardom-e Abadan, and etc....  Desert man mentions, Shush, balam, benghesht, I talk about eistgah-e Dewazeh;  Man, it's all too much nostalgia.  Sorry, Desert Man, I accidentally lost your message and can't provide a translation for the words you provided.  Still, there were a couple that I hadn't heard before.  Of coarse, that only makes sense because there has been this traditional rivalry between Abadan and Shush.  For me most of Khuzestan was nice 


(including Shush :-).  
>
>Hooshyar wants an answer to "seyko" ==>  means look at or negah kon for the
>Tehranis.
>
>Here's another deep Abadani one for you Hooshyar:  "to sey"  which is 
>another form of look at, but with specific reference to the person you're 
>asking to look ("to").
>
>Hence, you add a vareity of ear pleasing arguments such as "to sey eee" 
>(i.e., look at him/her), "to say fac-e folesh"  (look at his/her ugly or
>foul face; again a relic of English-occupied Abadan), or the ever popular 
>"to sey seresh" (look at his/her head; in Tehrani it'd be "saresh" not 
>"seresh"!).

Boy, did I miss all these derivatives?  You are right that even reading about
it makes you shiver.

>Of coarse "fac-e fol" was quickly linked to soccer terminology, since soccer
>was so popular in Abadan.  Therefore, someone who was fairly ugly had a
>"kashte-ye do-zarb" which wasn't as severe as a "fac-e penalt"  (an actual
> penalty kick)!!!  This is quite sophisticated stuff!!!

No doubt.  British must have had a hard time trying to figure Abadanis out!

>As you might imagine it was all quite tongue-in-cheeck and only done for fun.
>Yet it was a major part of the vernacular.
>
>I find my Abadani accent (along with the vernacular) returns once I'nm around
>a bunch of Abadanis.  It just works better that way!!!
>
>
>BTW, "nun baghsaami" was a small and much softer version of French bread.  It
>was great for sandwiches.
>
>
>O.K., the rest of you khuzestanis take a shot at translating the following:
>
>"lomp house"
>"pamp house"
>
>Remember the heavy British influence in Khuzestan and especially Abadan!!!

I am going to try knowing that I might be wrong.  I hope I will not become
"to sey zel-zelekesh" [(c) The People of Abadan].

lomp house  ----->  eest-gAh-e bargh (power station)
pamp house  ----->  eestgAh-e pomp (oil pump station)

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian)
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:11:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.215918.14667@wuecl.wustl.edu> seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:

>I have two objections here:
>1) These are not really all the possibilities. After the first choice,
>   when Monty opens one of the remaining two doors, it might happen that
>   there is a prize behind it. You implicitely are assuming that Monty
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   KNOWS where the prize is, and he ALWAYS picks the empty one.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Should add (for better clarity):

In contrast to: "Monty opens one of the remaining two (randomly) and it
                 happens to be empty".

Seyyed.

p.s. (Sorry, it's a long p.s.!)
Let me give the answer to the problem, when you state it in three different
ways:

Common part of the three problems:
Monty presents three boxes, in one of them a prize. The a priori probability
of having a prize in a given box is therefore 1/3. You choose one box and 
put it aside.

Problem #1:
Monty opens one of the remaining two boxes randomly. There is no prize in it. 
He asks whether you want to change your choice.
Solution: The probability of having a prize in either of the unopened
boxes is 1/2, therefore it doesn't make any difference. For a proof see
my previous demonstration.

Problem #2:
Monty knows which box contains the prize. He PROMISES to open only the
box (from the remaining two) which he knows is empty. After opening the
box (which he doesn't need to open, because he already have promised to
open the empty box), in other words, after telling you which box from
the remaining two is for sure empty, he asks whether you want to switch.
Solution: In this case the probabilities are 1/3 to 2/3, so you better
switch. I can also prove this using probability theory (not the naive
way some people think they have done!)

Problem #3:
Monty opens one of the remaining boxes. There is no prize in it. However
you don't assume anything about his strategy of choosing. He might have
chosen it randomly or always the empty one. He might even have chosen
the empty with some probability, say 90% or anything. Now would you
switch?
Solution: In this case, as Reza Modarres mentioned, there is no correct
answer, but it can be proved that if you switch, the chance of winning
is at least 1/2.

p.p.s.
Shahrokh, after you finished your homework, have an orange juice with
some fish, then start thinking about the above. Don't work continuously.
Have some rest from time to time. If you don't understand it, then I
sincerely suggest you to change your job and your major. Find yourself
a job in the circus, or in Hollywood. You have a much better chance there.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: Khomainie's Tomb Exploded
Originator: harrsen@rainier.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:19:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.162748.14915@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.205558.27701@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>, Asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu writes:
>|> I am delighted to report that, according to Mojahedin, three
>|> bombs were exploded inside Khomainie's tomb yesterday. It
>|> seems the tomb and surroundings were heavily damaged. I do
>|> not have the details yet.  
>|> 
>|> Mobarak,
>
>For a second I thought you blow up khomaini's  SHaste pA,  oh well!  :)
>
>Wow  so proud,  I wonder how many innocent people  got blown to skys.
>

None! However, several Pasdars were hospitalized. 

>
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>       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
>      / Computer Science Department                        /
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Asghar