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Subject: The Royal Fumble.
From: ajsmith@ualr.edu
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:11:05 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

Royal Rumble

	Well, once again it was time for the WWF to put up something to fill
the coffers at Titan megacorp.
	I did NOT pay the $24.95 in my area to watch the Royal Fumble but the
scramblers in my area are not very good, therefore I got most of the picture
and all of the sound. (Monsoon and Heenan would suck as radio announcers)

	My thoughts on the Royal Fumble.

	* Shocked that the WWF left Backlund in there for 1 hour plus. 
Number 1 in Number 28 out. Could this be to try to win the marks heart over
so they would actually start rooting for Bob? (btw I didn't see it did 
Backlund and Flair shake before the match?)

	* The coveted "In and Out Award" goes to Taylor and Shango who both
me and my father observed as "Shango in, POW, Shango out!" and "Taylor in,
POW, Taylor out" whatta easy job.

	* The entrance of El Gigante was stupid in my opinion (what was that
crap he was wearing?). The Undertaker being my favorite wrestler and me not
liking El Gigante ever since I first saw him, it will be fun watching him
get whipped on. (Heenan comment of the night "HE MUST BE AT LEAST 30 FEET TALL!"
Huh?

	* Earthquake outs Typhoon, interesting.

	* Final showdown Yokozuna (#25) and Randy "Nacho Man" Savage (#30) yeah
right, Macho could have arm splashed him ALL NIGHT, you still have a problem
moving 505 pounds of BEEF (or sushi whatever) over a rope that is what 4 or
5 feet off the gound (yeah right!) Yoko"ono"zuna could have SAT in the middle
of the ring and won just by everyone giving up moving him. (Yokozuna distant
cousin to Street Fighter II's E. Honda? hmmm)

	* Who the hell is Carlos Colon and Tenry, Hashu, Daugo (Ghesundhiet!)
whoever that Japanese dude was? 

	* all in all The Royal Fumble gets oh say 2 stars. RassleMania 9 must
have Yoko"ono"zuna vs. Hitdude  and  Undertaker vs. El "HE"gante (wonder if
he does use the handle El Gigante if we will have the great "El" battle
between El Matador and El Gigante (I'd change my name if I wan Chico!)

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:42:17 EST
From: <KAR113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Razor Ramon--NEW WWF Champ!

Just wanted to make my prediction for Royal Rumble.

Also:
1.  Steiners/Beverlies will be a fairly long match with (of course) the
    Beverlies getting their finisher to put the Steiners over when they
    come back for the win.
2.  I predict Yokozuna will eliminate Tenryu.
3.  Whoever said that Janetty would get Sherri and win the match but not the
    belt was right!
4.  Tatanka will last at least 30 min. in the Rumble.
5.  Last five in the ring at the Rumble:  Perfect, Undertaker, Yokozuna,
    Flair, and Backlund with a heel turn by Backlund ;)
6.  Finally, and obviously, Hepner will be 'unconscious' during the WWF title
    match at which time Hart will have Ramon pinned or in the sharpshooter.

Will someone please post the results as soon as possible?  Thanks.
From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Royal Rumble summary
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:29:50 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1993Jan26.162821.10579@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:
>..and why do you suppose that is? The sign above his head clearly
>said "Narcissist". We've just been mistaken the past several weeks.

>If anyone had gone to the bother of looking the word up in the
>dictionary (as Mean Gene did for us already), you would find:

>narcissism : self-love
>narcissist : one who practices narcissism
>narcissus  : bulbous plant

>When I looked that up, I remembered that my grandmother used to plant
>narcissus in her flower garden :-)

If you dig a little deeper, you'll find that Narcissus was the name
of a youth in Greek legend that was so infatuated with himself that
he was turned into a flower, hence the flower's name and the words
derived from the boy's name.  "Narcissus" is at least as appropriate
as "The Narcissist" for Lex Lugar, and it is in the form of a proper
name, too.

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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Cages, these days...
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:55:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Purdue University

In article <REID.93Jan24011004@dsm.dsm.fordham.edu>, reid@dsm.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
> Anyone notice how the WCW has joined the WWF in abandoning teh wire
> fence cages for cage matches?  That reall Pisses me off!  These new
> cages just look hokey, and have too much space [in between the bars].
> 

  I disagree.  These at least give some realism when a guy bangs the face of
another into the cage.  You can throw your body into a steel wire fence and all
you do is bounce back (provided you don't hit the mid post :).  Also, it 
probably makes it easier to climb the cage, seeing how it is kind of like a
ladder, although I believe a bar cage is what Sting screwed up his knee on.

  I'm sorry, but everytime I see an old "cage" I keep thinking it's not a
cage match, it's a fence match.  The big problem is, Thunderdome is the
only bar cage match that doesn't seem about ready to fall apart.  I remember
Hogan vs Bundy at Wrestlemania II.  They had tape on the corners and a few times
you could see space in the corners where two walls of the cage met.

  I'm still undecided about which bar cage a like best though.  (Thunderdome,
where there is room outside the ring, or the ones that are right at the apron.)

					Fippster 6
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Corporal Kirschner (WAS Re: Vince missed one..)
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:11:27 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling

In article <C1H2Dw.D3o@askinc.ask.COM>, robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert
McMullen) wrote:

> >>  Corporal Kirschner, egads whatever happened to him. Vince could team 
> >> Sgt. Slaughter and hence "The Leathernecks", oh well maybe next time 
> >> around.
> 
> >Kirschner was 82nd Airborne, US Army--he'd kill you if you had called him a
> >"leatherneck."
> 
> I can vouch for that; I was in the 82nd for a while in the 80s and he'd be
> dead for referring to one of us as USMC (Uncle Sam's Misguided Children).  
> Also if he referred to us as Screaming Eagles (the 101st Airborne)...
> 
> BUT, I think the gimmick of Kirchner, along with Don Kernodle, was "trainees"
> of the alleged USMC drill Sgt. Slaughter.  Since Marine drills don't train
> Army troops, I'd suspend belief and say Kirchner was "playing" a jarhead...er,
> Marine.

Kirchner joined the WWF after Sarge left; he had no relationship to
Slaughter in any way in the WWF.  He was US Army all the way.  His
finishing hold, BTW, was the same one that Tatanka uses, and he screamed
"Airborne" when he did it.

> Something that also adds credence to the idea that Kirchner was at least
> *playing* a Marine is that he has tights I have seen in the NWA, WWF and
> GWF that are red and gold (USMC colours), not black and gold (Army colours)
> or red, white and blue (82nd's "division" colours; it's the colour of the
> "AA" [All-American, not Arn Anderson] shoulder patch). 

If I recall correctly, he wore BDU trousers and an OD or brown
tee-shirt--and jump boots, of course.

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From: jh@dolphin.cis.ufl.edu (Jeffery Halley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Jesse 'the body' was Quote of the day
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:25:15 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

In article <1993Jan18.202554.9794@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> hammer@northeastern.edu writes:
>I never found out why Jesse 'the body' left WWF was it movie career or feud
>with McMoney? I heard he ran for he mayor of some town.

According to an interview The Body did with Soundings (a US Navy newspaper) he
left after a dispute over videotape royalties.

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From: daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Vertigo)
Subject: Wrestling With Jim Ross
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:11:26 GMT

From Ross's AM 750 radio show:

Confirmation of Davey Boy Smith signing with WCW.  Starting in
February.

The details about the White Castle match will be given this
Saturday.

Rude will be wrestling again around the first of March.

Information about the 16 man TV title tourney will be given the
World Wide syndicated show this Saturday.  The matches will be
held on World Wide and on TBS's Main Event (probably just
replays of the World Wide matches).

The Rock and Roll Express lost the SMW titles to the Heavenly
Bodies.  This won't affect the SuperBrawl match.

WCW will offer parts of its Japan Supershow from January 4 as a
taped PPV running in March.  The Steiners v. Hawk/Hase match
will be included.
--
     
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From: mknapp@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Knapp)
Subject: How did RR end?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:03:47 GMT

     Could someone please post a discription of how the Rumble itself
ended?  As far as I could tell from what has been posted, it came down to
Yokozuna and about 5 or 6 other guys, and then Yokozuna eliminated
everybody else.  I'm curious to know if everybody attacked Yokozuna at
once, and couldn't budge him, or if everybody was fighting their own little
battles around the ring, while one other guy attacked Yokozuna at a time.

Thanks,
Mike

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From: srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu (Steven Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Royal Rumble Seat Location
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:20:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I've been trying to keep track of where the various r.s.p-w people are
sitting for the Rumble.  Once more, I myself, along with my son, will be
in Section 117, Row G, Seats 18-19.  One or both of us is likely to be
wearing something associated with the SF Giants, though that isn't a
given.  Will look for others, and hope others will stop by to say hi to us
as well.

Steven
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Wrestling TidBits   -   0
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:52:00 GMT
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Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 



hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:

  >   split on amicable terms.  It's rumoured that Ric will be earning more
  >   with WCW than he was earning in his last stint there.  If you recall,
  >   at the time he was earning $750000 a year and was being pushed to take
  >   a salary cut.  Talk now is that he'll be making in the $1M range.
  >   This seems hard to believe, especially with Bill Watts cutting costs

I have heard mid 6 figures, and much less than the 750K he was making in
WCW before.

  >   with was replaced.  Somebody on the net mentioned that Flair has looked
  >   good recently and that we could conclude that his WWF stint was good for
  >   him.  On the contrary, I would conclude that Flair is priming himself
  >   for his return to WCW.

I agree.  I also have heard that his match with Hennig on Monday will be
a 4 star effort.  I will watch the show for the first time that day.

  >     Ric Flair will be coming in as a babyface, presumably debuting at
  >   the 02/21/93 SuperBrawl III PPV from Asheville, NC, and rumours abound
  >   that he'll win the world title from Big Van Vader shortly after
  >   his arrival, thus freeing Vader up to do a short Japan tour.

Interesting.  I have heard he will initially feud with Windham, while
Sting will feud with Vader.  Then again, that was about a week ago.
Also, last I heard, Vader is on bad terms with New Japan.
---
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From: skar@warp6.cs.misu.NoDak.edu (Keith M. Skar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: RR Match 1
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:32:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C1DnuI.Ezz
Organization: Minot State University -- Minot, ND.

Time to waste some bandwidth....wont post descriptions...just results

Match 1
Steiner Brothers beat the Beverly Brothers.  

currently in progress...
Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Janetty for the IC Title...Sheri hasnt picked
a definate corner to be in yet.
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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: papa shango
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:37:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.200313.24941@zip.eecs.umich.edu> macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika (Ass. Lab Supervisor)) writes:
#

Hmm, Ass Lab? Tell me, what does one do in Ass Lab? :-)

#
#In article <1993Jan21.200052.7251@data-io.com> jewell@Data-IO.com (Cal Jewell) writes:
#>I stand corected.
#>
#>Mental note: don't mess with Gary Will on title changes or previous
#>wrestler's gimmicks/names.
#>
#>-- 
#>Cal...                           My 5-year anniversary of reading and
#>                                 posting to Usenet is on April 13, 1993.
#> jewell@Data-IO.COM              Do I get anything? Maybe a badge or a 
#> ...!pilchuck!jewell             pin or...naw, I thought not.
#
#5 years and you've waited til now to make that mental note?  Gracious Cal,
#I learned that one after about a week.  :)

I was being facetious.

Like Mr. Foley said:

	"There are a few things in life that you just don't do.
	 You don't spit into the wind.
	 You don't tug on Superman's cape.
	 You don't pull on the Lone Ranger's mask.
	 And you don't mess with Gary Will on title changes."

-- 
Cal...                   "The worst thing that could happen is that we clamp
                          down on the free flow of information, because that
 jewell@Data-IO.COM       should be preserved at all costs."  -- DEC Pres. 
 ...!pilchuck!jewell           Olsen on the effects of rtm's Internet worm
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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: Cages, these days...
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:56:54 GMT

In article <REID.93Jan24011004@dsm.dsm.fordham.edu> reid@dsm.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
#
#Anyone notice how the WCW has joined the WWF in abandoning teh wire
#fence cages for cage matches?  That reall Pisses me off!  These new
#cages just look hokey, and have too much space [in between the bars].

Well, they haven't gone away completely. WCW still uses chain link
for its War Games match. Talk about an annual juice fest.

Anyway, my guess is that the change in cages is due to the fact that
it's easier to get a clear TV shot between a bar type cage than through
a chain link type cage.

Given the choice between watching a clear picture of a match in a
bar type cage and watching a fuzzy picture of a match in a chain
link type cage, I'd choose the clear picture in a bar type cage.

The alternative is having a camera man inside the cage, which IMHO
takes away from the cage match.

-- 
Cal...                   "The worst thing that could happen is that we clamp
                          down on the free flow of information, because that
 jewell@Data-IO.COM       should be preserved at all costs."  -- DEC Pres. 
 ...!pilchuck!jewell           Olsen on the effects of rtm's Internet worm
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From: jbeverly@adobe.com (Jamie D. Beverly)
Subject: San Jose Taping
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:56:52 GMT

Is anyone else going to the taping? I will be WWF'd out by tuesday. Three
hours of Royal Rumble, and who knows how long for the house show!
Earthquake vs. Yokozuna, and Big Bossman Tatanka vs. Money Inc. are the
only two matches I have seen mentioned.
   Does anyone have the real names for Yokozuna and Tatanka. I have Raymond
Traylor for BBM and have just gone blank on Earthquake (Tenru?), Money is
in the bank for Ted Dibiase and Mike Rotundo.
   Good to hear Flair is back to the WCW. I am really starting to enjoy
their shows. More middleweight guys with high flying moves. I saw Chris
Benoit for the first time last week, and the of the second rope-closeline
to the floor was excellent. Anything that breaks the WWF monotony would is
gravy.  

Jamie D. Beverly
Acrobat Technical Support
Sugar Bombs Roadie
Adobe Hounds of Rebound All-Time Leading Scorer
From: duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: RSPW TAPES...
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:26:17 GMT
Reply-To: duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Rick Duggan)
Organization: College of Computing

In article <6577.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:
>ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) writes:
>
>BW>I have a few comments on the rspw tapes that have been put out in the last 9
>  >months. Herb put out rspw tape 1 last May. Dave put out rspw tape 2 last fal
>  >JoMosh just put out another tape about a week ago (let's call it rspw tape 3
>  >Now, Dave is in the process of putting out rspw tape 4 (and possibly 5 if
>  >there is enough interest!). 

Well, JoMosh's tape apparently came as something of a surprise to him;
if I remember correctly, he just got it one day and decided to offer
it due to it having some unique stuff.  As has been pointed out, $25 
for a custom-made tape (where the purchasers get to vote on what 
goes on it) is a pretty good deal.  So far, I have Dave's first tape
and am planning on getting his next one.  As soon as I save up a bit,
I'll be getting the other tapes.  All of them have some really 
interesting (and classic) stuff.

One thing I'd like to see is that no matches appear on more than one
tape.  I'd hate to buy a tape, and then see another tape with 
a bunch of the same matches on it.  If the second tape had other
stuff I wanted, I'd hate to have to pay $25 for duplicate stuff
just to get a few new things.

>Also, the reason for the question about if there are enough matches for
>another tape is NOT to do a piggyback tape, like Titan did with "This
>Tuesday in Texas."  It is too keep the matches that don't make it on the
>ballot for next September, like the Baseball Hall of Fame voting.

I think this is a good idea.  There were 18 matches I didn't vote
for that I'd like to see.  Assuming some of the ones I voted for
don't make it on the tape (even though I cast the perfect ballot :-)
there would almost be enough for another tape (in 6 months).  If
Dave gets some new stuff in the next 6 months, I think another
tape would be viable.

>I will always be glad to do the tape.  Luckily, I get excellent quality
>tapes from all over the world and am able to offer matches that a lot of
>people would never have the option of seeing.  To me, that is a good
>thing.

Amen, brother.  [I can't believe I just said that.]  The stuff
on the tape I have is phenomenal, and the match lists from the
other tapes are amazing.

-rick
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From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: RSPW TAPES...
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:25:40 GMT

I have a few comments on the rspw tapes that have been put out in the last 9
months. Herb put out rspw tape 1 last May. Dave put out rspw tape 2 last fall.
JoMosh just put out another tape about a week ago (let's call it rspw tape 3).
Now, Dave is in the process of putting out rspw tape 4 (and possibly 5 if 
there is enough interest!). I haven't personally purchased any of the tapes
yet, although they all have been very tempting. However, what I feared in the
beginning is starting to come true. Everybody is putting tapes out, and there
doesn't seem to be any cooperation or consistency between everybody putting
out the tapes. Already, I'm starting to see proposed matches that have already
been put out on rspw tapes, and matches that are readily available at your
local Blockbuster video store.

It might be helpful if somebody could post the match lists for all of the
rspw tapes to date, so everybody can keep track of what's already been
offered. Also, I wouldn't mind some feedback on all three of the current
rspw tapes. This feedback should be unbiased, too. Please e-mail me if
you don't want to post to rspw.

I guess I'm still considering buying any or all of the tapes, but it bothers
me to think that there might be 50 more tapes offered over the next year here
on rspw, all at $25 a piece. I think that anybody interested in purchasing
these tapes would be more confident in knowing that certain tape collectors
were going to offer tapes only once a year. This would seem to make the tapes
more legitimate, rather than an attempt only to make money.

Just my two cents worth...   

 
--

ventura@camelot.bradley.edu  

"I'm a sixty minute man, and I'm all night long! WOOOOOO!!!"
        - "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion"(tm)  Ric Flair
From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: papa shango
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:00:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.082033.17893@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will) writes:
#In article <1993Jan20.030815.22122@data-io.com> jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell) writes:
#>"The Soultaker" was nothing more than a GWF rip-off of the WWF's
#>hugely successful "Undertaker" gimmick.
#
#I don't know much about Papa Shango, but The Soultaker was wrestling
#in Memphis when Mark Calaway was still The Punisher (1989).  It
#could have been a different Soultaker for all I know -- I never
#saw Memphis wrestling in that time period, but Charles Wright did
#start wrestling in 1988, so it likely was him.
#

I stand corected.

Mental note: don't mess with Gary Will on title changes or previous
wrestler's gimmicks/names.

-- 
Cal...                           My 5-year anniversary of reading and
				 posting to Usenet is on April 13, 1993.
 jewell@Data-IO.COM              Do I get anything? Maybe a badge or a 
 ...!pilchuck!jewell             pin or...naw, I thought not.