HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter)
Subject: Basically trivial question (wasting hundreds if not thousands)..
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 01:10:11 GMT

Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: 


I got some xSU `collector' items from a soft drink 
company (hey, they were free...) and was wondering
if someone could give some details on them...

Pin with hammer and sickle with BETEPAH 
Ribbon with C nPA3^HNKOM and 1 MAR 
Stamp with nOYTA and 4 KON (and CCCP, natch)
Pin in flag shape (red) with Lenin image

Apologies in advanced for butchered Cyrillic, etc.

Yeah, I realize they're probably nothing special.

Thanks, Ron

--
Ron Carter |   Denver | Center for the Study of Creative Intelligence
  Director | Colorado | "A ... mind stretched by a new idea can never
rcarter@nyx.cs.du.edu | go back to its original dimensions."  -Holmes
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: berlin@is.morgan.com (Alexander Berlin)
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:23:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.131448.17705@watson.ibm.com>, galina@watson.ibm.com (Galina Kofman)_ writes:
|> In  <1992Aug27.172043.4771@ccd.harris.com>  jsh@controls.ccd.harris.com (Joe Hoff) writes:
|> >
|> > One of the arrangements in their is called
|> > Stenka Razin.
|> >
|> > If you have the lyrics, please post them.
|> >
|> > Joe Hoff
|> 
|> This is probably not very accurate, but will give you the idea.
|> 
|> Iz-za ostrova na strezhen',  <what is strezhen'?>
|> ........
|> I za bort ejo brosaet

I recall a funny variation: "I za-abort ejo brosaet..." which may 
indicate that abortion rights and protests were big issues back then.

---
Alex Berlin                     
berlin@is.morgan.com
From: vadim@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Currency exchange in Moscow
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:29:42 EDT

In article <1992Sep4.053432.24484@zooid.guild.org>, Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org> writes:
> In article <185smqINNntl@agate.berkeley.edu>, muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.141543.22511@shearson.com> brekshyn@shearson.com writes:
>>>to change currency there?  I don't want the "official" rate for American dollars,
>>>but rather the "true" rate.  Also, what things should one watch out for, i.e.
>>>dangerous dealers, unscrupulous (sic) people, et cetera?  Please feel free to
>>
>>Are these rates different? As far as I know they are not much different,
>>and it is better to use official way. Am I wrong? If I am correct me please,
>>it is important for me, too.
>>
>>Of course if you mean really "true" rate, it will be about 30 rubles/dollar or
>>so.
>>
>>Yury
> 
> 
>   30 rubles/$? How so? What is that rate called?
> 
>                                                                  adam
  Yeah,remember the sweet times when $1=0.57 - 0.62 rub ?
From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Proskurov/Khmelnitskii
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:18:37 GMT
Reply-To: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Sep1.144559.14928@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> pjt@newton.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Tanenbaum) writes:
>
 My grandfather and his family
>came from Proskurov and environs.  I'm trying to learn what I can about
>them and the area. 
...
>I understand from the B.C.E. that it was renamed in 1954 to commemorate
>the 300th anniversary of this Khmelnitskii dude and his efforts to unite
>Ukraine with Russia.
And wipe out your great-grand-father's family by the way.

You can try to find address of the archives over there, and write
directly to them. I heard,that they are friendly sometimes.

On the other hand many archives in this area are destroyed during WWII.
Some people were using cities with destryed archives
to give references to OVIR to get
permission to emigrate ( "proving", that the person, who
sent invitation is indeed their relative). I hope this "secret" can be
given out now. 
I recall Khmelnitskii being used for that.


Simon Streltsov			    	! Disclaimer :
PhD Student,				! I can not speak for the
Dept. of Manufacturing Engineering	! Engineering Dept, ONLY because
Boston University			! I claim to be a mathematician..
From: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Dolgopa e-mail (Was Re: School #2, Class 1986)
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:50:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Aug28.005044.15172
Organization: Dept. of Math, Harvard Univ.

In article <1992Aug26.154854.3289@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il> barabash@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Barabash Alexander) writes:

>In article <1992Aug23.021525.9921@wam.umd.edu>, ernestk@wam.umd.edu (TERMINATOR III) writes:
>|> 	Does anybody know anybody in Moskovskiy Fiziko-Texnicheskiy
>|> Institut who has an e-mail address?  It's very Important.

>From Sasha Kaplan's list of FizTexs:

>***@kiae.su  ****@ecsc.mipt.su        (FUPM, 1991) # Michael Kudryashev

>The second e-mail is probably in the Moscow Institute of Physics and
>Technology.

>Alexander Barabash, Rehovot, Israel

Note that Kaplan's list is not (at least, was not) authorized. 
I know at least one case when a guy's address was included in this list without
his content. When he wrote to Kaplan that he don't want his
address to be publicitly known (Kaplan once gated his list to 
scs :), he have had a lot of unpleasant mail. Basically,
he was called "Sovok", and answered to Kaplan with the same
insult. It could be possible that Kudryashev and other guy
don't want their name in scs. Please if you don't
have evidence that they are happy with their address 
published in Usenet, don't post it.

Misha.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: libkind@hdlite.enet.dec.com (Sam Libkind)
Subject: Tsirk: 
Keywords: Circus, Clowns
Reply-To: libkind@hdlite.enet.dec.com (Sam Libkind)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:27:56 GMT


Oleg Popov (64) zenilsia v Netherlands na nemetskoi tzirkovoy aktrise
Gabrielle Lehman (30). Source - today's issue of Boston Globe, page 70.
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Date: 29 Aug 1992 03:42:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <9208282205.AA11687@feds66.Prime.COM> "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu> writes:
>`Eto-to ya znayu, a vot pochemu "strezhen'"
>(chto za koren', chto za suffiks?) nikak ne
>mogu soobrazit'. A ved' kogda-to znal.

My guess would be same as "sterzhen'", something central, holding things together.

Yury
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Cyrillic via net
Date: 3 Sep 1992 18:19:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <BtzFuu.JoD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs) writes:
>the recipient must uudecode it.  Another alternative is to
>use a wierd looking transliteration called "KOI-7" which is a
>wierd looking 7 bit transliteration for Russian.  But then you
>can't mix Russian and Latin letters.

This is not quite true, as as far as I remember KOI-7 standard includes
switch characters: ^N and ^O to switch between Cyrillic and Latin alphabets.
At least Soviet TTY's supported this. Actally, I think these two characters
are even part of ASCII standard, called Shift In and Shift Out, and intended
exactly gor same purpose: switching between main and alternative fonts.

Yury
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: Re: Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:29:05 GMT

In article <185noiINNl6t@agate.berkeley.edu> muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.094059.13701@jyu.fi> ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>>
>>The battle is still going on and the winner is yet unclear.
>
>Why don't you invite couple of Russian divisions to help? :)
>Or member of Former (10 years old) Supreme Soviet. They have
>well trained palms, quite suitable for the task :).
>
It would be best if the EXSU army concentrated more on moscito
killing. I agree.


>>How the russians keep russian culture alive in America?
>
>Via flaming in s.c.s and t.p.s, of course.
>
>>remember after tasting american help that you need in fact a Finn
>>to solve out the mess as a consultant sooner or later.
>
>Sorry, Russian tradition requires Dannish (sp?). You should think about
>changing your nationality.
>
 What help can Danemark offer for the Great Russia? Tuborg?Legos?


>Krome togo my esche ne vseh peretjapali.
>
>Yury.
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: HELP !!!
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:26:13 GMT
	<1992Sep2.233629.19918@uc.msc.edu> <IedW9YK00Uh_M25wQp@andrew.cmu.edu>

In article <IedW9YK00Uh_M25wQp@andrew.cmu.edu>, am2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anne Marguerettaz) writes:
>Wouldn't currency get "lost" somehow if you just sent it by mail? I have
>already looked into sending checks or money order to some family in
>Europe and it would have been very expensive for them to cash them..
>(bank fees etc.). So what would you sugest?
>
>Anya



  I know someone in St.Petersburg and as far as I know there isn't any way to
send money except as cash. I think it is possible to "wire" money to Moscow
but I'm not sure. The best thing to do, I hear, is to find someone who is
going there and get them to take the money. That's what I'm gonna do
concerning that woman and her baby.


                                                            adam

P.S. the "wire" service is through American Express in Moscow, I think.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.polish
From: deb5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff)
Subject: Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad
Reply-To: deb5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:03:44 GMT

	What's going on in Kaliningrad/Koenigsberg?  Several months (maybe 
closer to a year ago), I heard that some minds had suggested making the city
and its environs in to some sort of special economic development area in order
to attract foreign investment.  The original partners were going to be Russia,
Lithuania, Poland, and Germany, but too many locals expressed their fear of
Germany trying to retake its former possessions, so Sweden was to replace
Germany as the source of Western funds.
	Last I heard, some Germans were complaining that their attempts to
visit the K-berg/K-grad were being thwarted by Polish authorities, who often
forced them to drive the long way around (through Belarus and Lithuania) in
order to entre the area, the reason being that the tiny border Polish border
post wasn't constructed to handle thousands of foreign tourists.
	So how do things stand now?  Has Germany formally given up all claims
to the area?  Are there any plans for investment or development?  Has anyone
suggested renaming the city?  Is anyone moving there to rebuild the farms
and towns which have been abandoned since the expulsion of the Germans (I
seems to remember _someone_ suggesting resettling the Volga Germans in the
area, but the locals didn't want Germans of any sort to come there)?
	I'd also appreciate it if anyone could give me similar information
about changes in Karelia and ?Vyborg (the former Swedo-Finnish city there;
I have no idea what the Soviets renamed it).
-- 
	Daniel "Da" von Brighoff (deb5@midway.uchicago.edu)  /\
	951 E. 54th Place				    /__\
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.afghanistan:910 soc.culture.iranian:7587
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Baghdad is an iranian city
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:19:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <92239.224954SAYED@auvm.american.edu> <SAYED@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>
>In article <41916@ogicse.ogi.edu>, gudimet@apee.ogi.edu (Rao Gudimetla) says:
>>
>> Prior to the arrival of iranians etc., India used to be called Bharat.
>>In all prayers, ceremonies, rituals by priests, even today at the
>>begining of the puja ( ritual+prayer), the priests reads some thing
>>
>>Such a procedure is being followed for centuries.
>>This is the name which India adopted after independance.
>>
>>In any case, can you prove your assertion. I think that the
>_________________________________________________
>>problem with many cultures that invaded India think they gave us
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>"culture" and education with out knowing they too learnt from
>>Indians. I wish to add respectfully that these cultures are
>>faring today no better than the indian ( hindu, you may say) culture
>>that they think they gave name to.
>>
>
>Rao, relax!!, we were not trying to bash on Hindus or anything
>against India, the entire idea was just sarcasm.  Read my note again,
>do you realy think Elvis is alive and lives in Iran??  The reason for
>my previous response was, if Baghdad is a Persian name, who gives a
>sh*%.  We can set here all day, months, years and argue as to who had
>the  most ancient culture, but at the end most will come up, that
>the first 2 human on earth were Adam and Eve and they were not
>Iranian, nor chineese nor Hindu, they were just human.  I have a comic
>on my desk that has a picture of a cave man reading a book and it says:
>'While other land animals were just playing around and having a good time
> mankind was hard at work trying to figure out how to stay on top of the
> water.'
>All I am saying is people, enjoy life while you can.  If Baghdad is an
>Iranian name, I will call my causin Hussain and have him change it to
>Al-Baghdad and that will make it Arabic.  And as far is the ancient
>civilization sh%$ is concerend, correct if I am wrong but the earliest
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>remaining of mankind was found in Africa, Luci was the name wasn't it??
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I wonder if Luci was Iranian!!!!!!!!!!!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Rao Gudimetla
>
>King Sayed Hussaini
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Ross Perot and Frank Purdu for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Sayed Shah, you should get a Ph.D. for anthropology. How did you know that?

bahadur shah zafar

ps
I was going to vote for ross perot, oh well winners never quit and quitters
never win.






Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: babak@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Cultura dar Afghanistan
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:53:47 GMT

In <17ja1aINNnl7@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu> hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi) writes:

>In Afghanistan, the Dari version of Farsi is spoken. It is classical
>Farsi of about three hundred years ago.  It is about the same version
>spoken in Tajikstan.  Most of the Northern Wilayat-or Mudiriat speak
>Farsi. Herat in the Gharb of Afghanistan is supposed to be a place where
>litterary (or close) Farsi si spoken.  Farsi is spoken in Most regions
>of Afghanistan. Probably by lookin at the names of provinces and regions
>you can guess whether farsi is spoken there ( Kand-Har, Parwan , Kunduz,
>ect) probably an afghan can enlighten us more. Hickmatyar is from 
>Shamal-e-Afganistan would you consider him a Farsi speaking or Pukhtu speaking
>Afghan?? Also I read in some Farsi book that te word afghan means Ghamguin
>or sorrow.

>wassalam
>Lotfi

Afghan, means load scream from pain or sorrow.  Afghanistan was part of 
origional Iran, which was forced out of Iran by England around 100 or so years
ago.  Anyway, We the current Iranians would respect our brothers wishes if they
want to stay independent, or whatever path they choose.  Nevertheless, pain
of Afghan people and  their sufferings make us feel bad as well.  Moreover, we
are ready to help anyway we could. Here is a poem from the  "Mashrotyat" era, 
which best describe Afghanistan's current situation:

Az Khon-e Javanan-e Vatan Laleh Damideh
      Az Ghmat Sarv-e Ghadeshan, Sarv Khamideh
Cheh bad raftari Ay charkh, Cheh Kazh raftari Ay Charkh
     Sar-e Kyen Dari Ay Charkh, na Deen Dar-e, na Ayean Dar-e Ay Charkh

                    Ba Arazoya Khoshi va slamti.
                         Babak   Sehari.
From: hermi@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: King Fahd protests 'no fly' policy against Iraq
Date: 1 Sep 1992 18:51:08 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

Subject: King Fahd protests 'no fly' policy against Iraq
Date: Mon., Aug. 31, 22.30 +2 GMT
Slug-word: King Fahd, Saudi Arabia, Iraq
Format: regular


(DWYA)-Riadh, Saudi Arabia-- In a news conference held at a tent in the 
outskirts of Riadh, the Custodian of the two holy shrines, King Fahd al-
Saud denied reports by the American ABC station that the U.S. and its allies
are using its bases in Dahran and Tabuk to monitor Baghdad's compliance with
the latest 'no-fly' restriction imposed on Saddam's regimes.  The news
conference was held following reports by international news agencies that 
Russia is sending two navy ships to help implement the U.N. resolution. "I
personally called Saddam this morning to wake him for Fajr prayer, and told
him that Saudi Arabia and the Arav States are '100 %' behind president Saddam
and brotherly Iraq," the King said."  

The King's shift seems to be at odds with reports by international 
wires that the Kingdom along with other Gulf States want a 'clean job' 
from Western powers. The King added that " we are not a US protectorate 
as might Arab masses think. We have about ten thousand we helped train 
in the Hindukush mountains during the Afghan Jihad and we are going to 
use them whenever needed. We learned the Egyptian experience with the U.K. 
and the Tunisian one with France at the end of the 19th century and we will 
not repeat the same mistakes," the King emphasized. 

Observers in the region recorded massive regroupings of troops on 
the Jordanian border, near the port city of Aqava.  They see it as a major 
intimidation of the only democracy in the middle east, so far unchallenged 
by Arav States.
From: hermi@shape.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Cultura dar Afghanistan
Date: 27 Aug 1992 15:22:18 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shape.mps.ohio-state.edu

In Afghanistan, the Dari version of Farsi is spoken. It is classical
Farsi of about three hundred years ago.  It is about the same version
spoken in Tajikstan.  Most of the Northern Wilayat-or Mudiriat speak
Farsi. Herat in the Gharb of Afghanistan is supposed to be a place where
litterary (or close) Farsi si spoken.  Farsi is spoken in Most regions
of Afghanistan. Probably by lookin at the names of provinces and regions
you can guess whether farsi is spoken there ( Kand-Har, Parwan , Kunduz,
ect) probably an afghan can enlighten us more. Hickmatyar is from 
Shamal-e-Afganistan would you consider him a Farsi speaking or Pukhtu speaking
Afghan?? Also I read in some Farsi book that te word afghan means Ghamguin
or sorrow.

wassalam
Lotfi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Re:Baghdad is an iranian city
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:57:59 GMT

In article SAYED@auvm.american.edu writes:
|> 
|> [Good article deleted]
|> I wonder if Luci was Iranian!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|> 
|> King Sayed Hussaini

Yes She was an Iranian lost in Africa!  :-)

Take it easy guys!

-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department (415) 723-0009         /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
From: WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Walid Majid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Farsi in Afghanistan
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:02:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Aug27.163341.28740@ryn.mro4.dec.com>,
taleghani@ranger.enet.dec.com (Bardia Taleghani) says:
>
>Hello,
>I would like to know what percent of afghani people speak farsi.  And what
>areas of the country do these farsi speaking people live.
>Regards,
>Bardia Taleghani


I would say that about 50% +- 20% speak Dari as their first language.
As you can see I have huge margins of error to be on the safe side.
I don't think that there is a real good estimate that is apolitical.
Perhaps other Afghans on net know more that I about this.

Another point to make is that we do not speak Farsi.  What we have
is called Dari.  It is perhaps easily described as an old version
of what most Iranians speak (Farsi).  In our Dari language there is
very little influence from Arabic.  While Farsi has been more open to
foreign language influences over the years.

Regards,

Walid
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: King Fahd protests 'no fly' policy against Iraq
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:30:33 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.

In article <180rflINNem9@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> hermi@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi) writes:
>Subject: King Fahd protests 'no fly' policy against Iraq
>Date: Mon., Aug. 31, 22.30 +2 GMT
>Slug-word: King Fahd, Saudi Arabia, Iraq
>Format: regular
>
>
>(DWYA)-Riadh, Saudi Arabia-- In a news conference held at a tent in the 
>outskirts of Riadh, the Custodian of the two holy shrines, King Fahd al-
>Saud denied reports by the American ABC station that the U.S. and its allies
>are using its bases in Dahran and Tabuk to monitor Baghdad's compliance with
>the latest 'no-fly' restriction imposed on Saddam's regimes.  The news
>conference was held following reports by international news agencies that 
>Russia is sending two navy ships to help implement the U.N. resolution. "I
>personally called Saddam this morning to wake him for Fajr prayer, and told
>him that Saudi Arabia and the Arav States are '100 %' behind president Saddam
>and brotherly Iraq," the King said."  
>
>The King's shift seems to be at odds with reports by international 
>wires that the Kingdom along with other Gulf States want a 'clean job' 
>from Western powers. The King added that " we are not a US protectorate 
>as might Arab masses think. We have about ten thousand we helped train 
>in the Hindukush mountains during the Afghan Jihad and we are going to 
>use them whenever needed. We learned the Egyptian experience with the U.K. 
>and the Tunisian one with France at the end of the 19th century and we will 
>not repeat the same mistakes," the King emphasized. 
>
>Observers in the region recorded massive regroupings of troops on 
>the Jordanian border, near the port city of Aqava.  They see it as a major 
>intimidation of the only democracy in the middle east, so far unchallenged 
>by Arav States. 
>


Lotfi, where are you from? Why are you using "v" instead of "b" when 
writing "arab" or "aqaba" ? and where is the source of this article?
-- 
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