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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:52:03 IST
From:         Michael Dick <DICK@SIENA.BITNET>
Subject:      Printing Problems on Networked Printer
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I have been talking about my printing problems over teh last month or so. I
have Lingua on an HP III printer. Some of my problems were a defective handling
of overflow which would actually destroy parts of files when I saved long files
or tried to print them--any file large enough to need an overflow (whether on C
or on a ram disk). I received an update yesterday that helped. My Lingua files
were all mid August, now I have files from late September (including the
important NB.EXE). Many of my bugs have disappeared. But I still had troubles
printing a large (16 page) file that David Reimer sent me. At first when the
file was active and I tried to print it; the command line would instantly say
DONE and not print. Then I quit all files and tried from the command line with
no active windows. It printed perfectly--up to page 8 and then started a line
of high ASCII characters (or low?): spades, hearts, and happy faces (ironic!).
Then it only print blank pages and the running header. I tried again and this
time it also printed up to 7 or 8 and then printed +- (over each other) when
ever a change of language or mode was called for and now Greek or Hebrew. After
about four attempts, it finally printed the entire document correctly. At home
on an identical set up but NO networked printer there was no problem. Our HP at
school is hooked up to the VAX and three other computers (none of which were
turned on). Is that the problem? Often (one out of 4 times) when I first print
a NB document I will get a code of 4-5 numbers at the left hand upper corner,
which NBI says is a printer code that the printer is taking as text. Could many
of my printer codes for language switches etc. be passing throug the networking
device in the back of the printer as text and throwing off my document?
Michael Dick
        DICK@SIENA
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:22:00 EDT
From:         Frank Stewart <STEWART@ANNENRES.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: OS/2
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I'm thinking of getting a computer which has OS/2 installed on it.
I use both NB 3.1 with SLS and NB4 with Lingua.  Am I going to have
any difficulty installing or running them with OS/2?
        Frank Stewart, Annenberg Inst., Philadelphia
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Subject:      J.Takala
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Would J. Takala get back to me off-list, please - to spare me from
more private shouts across a crowded room?


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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.

M.E.Bennun@uk.ac.exeter.cen
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 92 08:26:02 -0600
From:         Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>
Subject: Re: N.B. 4.0 issues, and MLA
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Following up on Ted Parkinson's old message, I wonder if anyone else has
seen the following happen:
	I had a couple of files loaded, running NB4 under Desqview with the
old Herc. Mono card, so QEMM filled in the first 64K of video memory, giving
me 632K for the window in which NB was loaded.  The program, upon loading,
took about 360K, leaving me with 270K, more or less.  I spell checked one of
the files, and found 137K left at that point and func me showed 108K for the
dictionary.  After loading a couple of other files, some parts of the first
big one being swapped to the RAM disk, and unloading others, I loaded a large
file (112K), which was from 3.1, so I was asked if I wanted to convert the
PT deltas.  Upon doing so, I then checked memory and found that I had more
than I should, so I checked func me again, and found that the dictionary had
been unloaded!  It would be great (as far as I'm concerned) if the dict. would
unload after a while if I'm not using it without my having to tell it to do so,
but I expect it had something to do with that conversion program running, since
it never unloaded before.  Any comments?

	And now for something completely different: Will there be any  other
notabeneri at the AALS convention in SF this coming January?  If so, contact
me personally, and maybe we can get together at some point.

--Ken Salzberg
ksalzber@hamline.edu
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From:         Allan Needell <NASSH100@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      TVGA 8900C Video Card and NB4
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From: Allan Needell

I have the above named Trident Video card. Does anyone know if the there are
tricks (drivers) etc. that would make it possible to view screen italics and
superscripts using nb4 (no Lingua?). BTW the card has 512K of video memory.
Now when I invoke the italics symbol set, I get a much improved and very
pleasing set of characters (the "m" is by far superior to the one with the
ascii symbol set), but italics (as with ascii) are still simply background
color reversed.

Allan Needell
National Air & Space Museum
Smithsonian Institution
Washington, DC 20560  (BITNET: NASSH100@SIVM)
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 92 08:37:00 +0200
From:         Michael Shalev <SHALEV@HUJIVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Sorry!
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After cursing for years those forgetful (foolish) folks who didn't read my
instructions about the difference between the List-server's address and
Notabene's, I sent a search request to the wrong place and you people
have the right to heap scorn upon me! Sorry about that,  ...Michael
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Subject:      Re: Bibliographical programs
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What about endnote?
ENDNOTE
From: J.BERG@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU
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Subject: re: NB4 Keyboard reassignment
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:00:47 GMT
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Unlike Bob Kosovsky, I was able to make keyboard reassignments by editing
the --.kbd file.   Tell us just what you did, Bob, and we may have
suggestions.

john berg
j.berg@acad.suffolk.edu
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:59:22 -0500
From:         "B. FROHMANN" <frohmann@UWOVAX.UWO.CA>
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INDEX NOTABENE
Bernd Frohmann
School of Library and Information Science
Elborn College
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario N6G 1H1
(519) 679-2111 EX. 8510
FROHMANN@UWOVAX.UWO.CA
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 92 13:53:30 -0500
From:         "Marvyn R. Harris" <mrh3b@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      MEDFRENCH, hypertext course
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Has anyone who has used Levy and Hindley's _MEDFRENCH: An Old
French course_ been able to get the BLOC-NOTES (F3 Key) function
to work correctly. I an make my note, which is saved in the .NOT
file on disk, but I have never been able to access it again from
within the text.

Roy Harris - University of Virginia
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU, mrh3b@Virginia.Bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 92 11:18:26 CST
From:         Glenn Everett <IVAA@UTMARTN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: dot matrix Printers
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> Add another favorable testimony about the Panasonic 1124.  You do need the ext
> a memory chip to download the Lingua (SLS) fonts.  The Panasonic was my second
> printer.  My first, the Toshiba 321, you should avoid.  I went through seven p
> int heads (some of the pins kept breaking).  I should add, however, that Toshi
> a refunded 100% of the purchase price, even though the warranty had expired a
> ear earlier.  I used the refund to buy the cheaper, sturdier Panasonic and hav
>  been satisfied ever since.  (The Toshiba 321 received an unfavorable review i
>  PC Magazine's printer review a couple of years back - reliability and sturdin
> ss problems based on their reader surveys.)
>
> Reinaldo Perez, Greek and Latin
> Wayne State Univ, Detroit

I can't let criticism of the Toshiba 321 pass without repeating my
entire satisfaction with this printer, which I have been using with
Notabene 2 and 3 since 1986.

Glenn Everett
English Dept.
University of Tennessee at Martin
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:40:15 IST
From:         PARKINSN@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject:      N.B. 4.0 issues, and MLA
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1) If I go to the MLA I'd love to meet N.B. people.  But I won't know
until December probably.

2) In answer to an earlier query, I too have not been able to extract
bibliographic references with 4.0 and Ibid.  But I've only tried it a
couple of times with one file (the same file worked fine under 3.1)
I get only 2 references (when I know there are 10 or more), and then N.B.
4.0 hangs while trying to generate the "2" references.  I'll try more
experimenting.

3) I've been waiting for a few days for NBI to call, so I thought I'd
post this as an open question.  Has anyone gotten the dictionary into
EMS _and_ used Ibid successfully?  I've used the dictionary fine, but
when i've tried to call up Ibid I get some sort of basic file directory
menu instead.  I tried loading the dictionary with different amounts in
conventional memory, but with the same result.

4) Speaking of memory, I'm finding it frustrating how much memory simply
vanishes in 4.0.  I'm running dr-dos 6.0 with about 623K of conventional
memory available.  Oh yeah, I use taskmax as well.  With 4.0 loaded I
get about 239K free inside N.B.  The spell dictionary is 100K, and my
personal spell is about 20K, leaving a good 100K available.  I also
use a 512K ramdrive for overflow files.  Yet after a session, with many
files swapped back and forth, I lose 40 to 50K in memory.  I've had
4 or 5 files up, taking about 20k of memory, and both F7 and "func me"
report 39K available.  Are others experiencing this?  Furthermore,
when there isn't much memory available (even though a large ramdrive
exists), 4.0 has trouble working with multiple split windows.  I couldn't
access the Ibid lookup menu until going to a full window.

5) Is there a glitch with the define, or is it just me?  When I define
a sentence of text which is, say, bold, and then copy it somewhere else
in the text, the stuff after it gets bolded as well.

Any help with these problems is appreciated.  I will talk to NBI about
them if/when they phone me back.  There is a lot about 4.0 I really
like, and the file handling is _much_ improved.  The problems with Ibid
and memory are troubling though, but I assume solutions will be found.

Ted Parkinson
parkinsn@sscvax.cis.mcmaster.ca
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
From: USERGFNK@UMICHUM.BITNET (Paul F. Schaffner)
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Subject: SBL query (not NB)
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:12:50 GMT
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If there is an SBL-member willing to tell me the location of a particular
session at the San Francisco meeting, could he or she get in touch with
me privately?

Paul Schaffner                           usergfnk@umichum (BITNET)
Univ. of Michigan                        usergfnk@um.cc.umich.edu
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I - errrh - um - seem to have fumbled, folks, with a Criminal Justice
mailing. Sorry. Shan't do it again. It's interesting stuff, though.

:-(

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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 92 19:42:48 PST
From:         Stephen Davison <davison@BMF.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ASCII
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To Renee and Uri Melammed:
Have you tried F1-Export-Special ASCII
A menu comes up that gives you options about stripping higher ASCII
characters etc.
Stephen Davison
davison@usc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:31:25 -0500
From:         "JONATHAN ALLOY" <C2MXALL@FRE.TOWSON.EDU>
Subject:      Media Magic

To all out there in Fractals-land:

        I have found it!! The most complete, fascinating catalog of Fratals, Cha
   os, Virtual Reality, and MUCH more.
        Teh catalog is from a company called Media Magic. They are based in Nica
   sio, CA.  What makes them Sooooo interesting is the depth of their stock.
        They have books, videos, software, posters, t-shirts, ties, calanders, t
   extbooks, hardware, and MORE!

        The topics covered by them include: FRACTALS, SCIENTIFIC VISUALIZATION,
   CHAOS, ARTIFICIAL LIFE, PROGRAMMING, CYBERSPACE, COMPUTER GRAPHICS, OUTER SPA
   CE, ASTRONOMY, PHYSICS, BIOLOGY, COMPUTER ANIMATION, EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS,
VIRTUAL REALITY, MACINTOSH, PC, RECREATION, MULTI-DIMENSIONS, CD-ROM, SPIRALS, P
   ATTERNS, FORM, SYMMETRY, MATHEMATICSEARTH, INNER SPACE, FRACTAL ANIMATION, AN
   D *MORE*!!!!!!!!!!!

        As you can see, I LOOOOOVE this catalog.  If I could I would order EVERY
   THING in it. Higher Praise I cannot give.
        Their # is 415-662-2426.  The address is:
                        Media Magic
                        PO BOX 598
                        Nicasio, CA  94946
        The President is Michael Strasmich.

Enjoy!
Jonathan Alloy
Frostburg State University
Frostburg, MD  21532
Internet:       C2MXALL@FRE.FSU.UMD.EDU
Bitnet:         C2MXALL@FRE.TOWSON.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:03:37 -0500
From:         C549597@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Fractint for Windows

Can any one tell me where, and under what name, can I find Fractint
for Windows?  What is the most recent version of both windows & dos
versions?


Thanks, c549597@mizzou1.missouri.edu
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From:         "JONATHAN ALLOY" <C2MXALL@FRE.TOWSON.EDU>
Subject:      Fractint 17.2

Fractal Folks:
        Does anybody out there know where I can get a copy of FRACTINT 17.2, or
   whatever the latest version is for DOS and Windows?
        I am not a CompuServe user, or Prodigy, so that is out.  Is there a hard
   (i.e.- Real Life) address where I could send mail?  How about EMail?
        Thanks a million in advance!

Jonathan Alloy
211B Annapolis Hall                     Internet: C2MXALL@FRE.FSU.UMD.EDU
Frostburg State University              Bitnet:   C2MXALL@FRE.TOWSON.EDU
Frostburg, MD  21532
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:50:07 CST
From:         Dave Uherka <UHERKA@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A Conjecture regarding the Mandelbrot Set
              12 Nov 1992 18:54:27 GMT from <jjcarett@DAISY.UWATERLOO.CA>

On Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:54:27 GMT Jacques Carette said:
>Not true.  The Fibonnacci polynomial (as studied by Milnor & Lyubich) is
>a counter-example.  What is not not known (and is also one of the main
>remaining conjectures in the theory) is if there are open sets of such
>beasts in the M set.  It is known that the Fibonnacci polynomial is
>not in such an open set (it is what is called "rigid").
>

What is the Fibonacci polynomial?  Is it f(x)=x^2-x-1?
Do you have the reference to the above work by Milnor and Lyubich?

Dave Uherka
Math Dept, Univ of ND, USA
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From:         Walter Carnahan <PHTWALT@INDSVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Software package for Gleick's CHAOS?

 Had anyone had a chance to play with the software package called CHAOS
that is sold as a companion to the Gleick book of the same name? A
brief description of what this package does (as the ad is pretty
uninformative) would be really useful, esp in terms of what you
could find someplace else (ie various shareware programs).

Thanks in advance,

Steve Portigal
--
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Steve,
        I have this pacckage and found it really useful, until I got ahold
of fractint. This package is from Autodesk and was written primarily by
Rudy Rucker. It has many of the same things as fractint with a couple of
exceptions. There is a terrific physical simulation of an iron bar and a
bunch of magnets which are positionable, randomizable or very regular. I
haven't seen anything else like it. There is also a cellular automaton
which is interesting. But I understand that they have another CA package
available called something like CA Lab which is purported to be an improve-
ment.
                Walt Carnahan
                phtwalt@indsvax1.indstate.edu
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From:         Steve Portigal <stevep@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      FAQ or Charter?
              Landini" at Nov 16, 92 9:33 am

 Is there a FAQ or Charter for this mailing list? I want to make sure
I don't post questions inappropriately...

Steve
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Subject:      Re: Media Magic

RE Media Magic:

        At last a man after my own lost heart!!!!!  The only thing I can
see that's missing is Beethoven and FFT's!!!!!  Speaking of FFT's, I'd
like to publish a sharware "spectrum workshop."  I consider it extremely
useful but it may not be up to shareware standards - any tips from all
you hackers out there??????

                                        Michael D. Aesoph
                                University of Pittsburgh - Johnstown
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:54:28 +0100
From:         G.POLDER@CPRO.AGRO.NL
Subject:      Re: Info about 3-D fractals

> We seek information about 3-D fractal-generated graphics (such as
> landscapes, trees, etc.). We would appreciate any available information
> related to publications (papers, articles, or recently pubished books) on the
> domain.
>
>
> Thanks a priori.
>
%T The algorithmic beauty of plants
%A P. Prusinkiewicz
%A A. Lindenmayer
%A J.S. Hanan
%A F.D. Fracchia
%A D.R. Fowler
%I Springer
%C New York
%P 228
%K algorithms
%D 1990

%T Creating Phyllotaxis: the dislodgement model
%A F.M.J. van der Linden
%J Mathematical Bioscience
%V 100
%P 161-199
%K fractals fibonacci
%D 1990
%L 91013
%X University of Technology, PTHN, 5600 AV Eindhoven
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:40:41 EDT
From:         BILAS@GRPATVX1.BITNET
Subject:      Info about 3-D fractals

We seek information about 3-D fractal-generated graphics (such as
landscapes, trees, etc.). We would appreciate any available information
related to publications (papers, articles, or recently pubished books) on the
domain.


Thanks a priori.
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From:         Steve Portigal <stevep@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      Software package for Gleick's CHAOS?
              Landini" at Nov 16, 92 9:33 am

 Had anyone had a chance to play with the software package called CHAOS
that is sold as a companion to the Gleick book of the same name? A
brief description of what this package does (as the ad is pretty
uninformative) would be really useful, esp in terms of what you
could find someplace else (ie various shareware programs).

Thanks in advance,

Steve Portigal
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From:         Gabriel Landini <g.landini@BHAM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Hurst exponent, K, HG, HF & the rest...

I need to get in touch with anybody who has used the R/S method
for estimating the Hurst exponent of a series.
Thanks,

G.Landini@bham.ac.uk
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