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From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Anyone want ski condition reports to be posted?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:17:54 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hello all,

I am currently writing a script to pull a report of current ski conditions
at various resorts in the west.  This report comes from a weather server.
Anyway, once I get it working, I could post weekly (or semi-weekly?) ski
condition reports to this group.  Anyone interested?

I may not be able to do it for the whole United States (maybe too much work), 
but I'll see.


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From: seanodon@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Aragorn)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.bicycles,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: yakima vs thule opinions wanted
Keywords: Yakima, Thule roof racks
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:23:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul22.191921.19082@infonode.ingr.com> dlb@dazixco.ingr.com writes:

>I'd appreciate opinions of pros & cons on Yakima vs Thule racks
>for skis & bikes.  
>
>thanks in advance.
>
>
>Dave Buehmann

I have a Thule roof rack with two fork mounted carriers, and have had no
problems with it.  I've also used Yakima racks, as since a lot of my
friends have that brand and I have traveled with them.  It also appears
to be a very well built rack.  

Is there a difference?

From what I've seen, when it comes to flexibility and ease of use, both
are very well designed and built.  Either one would be a good investment
if you plan on doing a lot of travel with your bike.  The only
difference I know of is that Thule is from Sweden and Yakima is from the
west coast (Yakima, Washington?).  Most shops around here tend to carry
Yakima instead of Thule, so it's a bit more difficult to get stuff.
However one of the mail order companies, Performance or Nashbar, carries
Thule racks.  

I don't thing you can go wrong with either one, so you  may just want to
lookj around and see what you can get cheaper.

Aragorn


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From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Re: Khombi snowboard gloves
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:34:15 GMT

mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace) writes:

>kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:

>>Have any of the snowboarders out there in netland ever bought
>>Khombi snowboarding gloves?  I've seen them advertised but they always
>>sell out in the stores.  How good are the ones with the plastic thumb
>>piece and plastic wrist inserts?  (I'm trying to justify the price)
>> - Kirk

>I looked at these gloves and the Burton snowboard gloves and
>opted for the burtons.  You can wear the Burtons with or 
>without the liners and they are tough.  One year of use 
>and they don't look used at all (thats about 20 boarding days
>and a few days winter camping).  I don't remember seeing even
>one pair of these in the pipes this year either.
             ^^^^^ I mean't the Kombies, the
                   Burtons seem more popular.

Mark Wallace, Castle Rock, CO


Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.backcountry
From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Re: Closed Ski Areas in Colorado - Post 1
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 14:19:50 GMT

crispin@watson.ibm.com (Crispin Cowan) writes:

>In article <1992Jul30.175218.25581@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mwallace@nyx.cs.
u.edu (Mark Wallace) writes:
>>      Lifts: 1 double chair, 1 poma, 1 Mitey Mite

>What's a Mitey Mite?

>Crispin

I believe its a rope tow with handles.  The handle is maybe 16 inches
a sticks out one side of the rope/cable, it is either held onto
or can be placed behind the passenger.

Mark Wallace, Castle Rock, CO
mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu

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From: wippel@nbrwh49.bnr.ca (Roland Wippel)
Subject: Re: A waterskiing question
Organization: Northern Telecom, Bramalea, Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:56:36 GMT

I taught waterskiing for several years and the best instructional
book I have seen is called 'Waterskiing' and is written by Joel
McClintock who was the 1979 World Overall Champion. It extensively
covers everything from beginners to advanced tournament level
skills.

It is available from the Ontario Waterski Association, Toronto,
Ontario, Canada. I don't know the address but I know they have a
mail order book service.
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: The FAQ lives!
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:50:26 GMT
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <1340270@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com
(Glen Baker) writes:
> Awright awright already! As much as I enjoy the thought of Eugene staring
> impatiently at his terminal and putting off climbing while he waits for
> the FAQ I suppose I'll end the suspense and post the current version of
> the dang thing!

Staring? Naw, I'm waiting for tape drive parts...... Any minute now...
One has lots of time when one issues commands on GB sized files (compact
took 15 hours one of my files).
I can also fork information ferrets (while climbing), and I use
multiple windowed workstations, too.

I think the thing people have to realize is that THEY should
contribute to the thing, and not leave it up to Glen or a small number
of people willing to post.  As Glen has noted in email, he's got an
alpine ski bias.  Neither of us water skis.

> Here's what's new since the first time I posted it.
>
>   - I've split the thing up into several files in order to keep each
>     individual posting down to a somewhat readable length.

This is important because a lot of you think that you have to read an article
to the very bottom.  News: you don't.  You can also search, skip, kill, and
cancel articles.  Oh yeah, you can post, too.

Back to my tape tests.....

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From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Many questions... (was Re: Is there an FAQ for this group?)
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:08:19 GMT
Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Jul21.121833.41783@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <BrpG2J.4Hs@solbourne.com>, gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber) writes:
>> 
>> 3. If you're trying to save money, why the hell are you going to Vail?
>> There's probably a Taco Bell in Dillon, dunno about Vail.
>
>Because I like Vail, as do many other people.  I am splurging on the skiing
>but economizing on everything else.  Kind of what Ski Bums do.

Hey, then why visit a Taco Bell?  Real ski bums bring a gallon can of 
hot peppers and some frozen ground beef along and make their own.  Over 
a camp stove in the parking lot.  (Ooops, have to pay to park at Vail, 
so I guess you would have to look for rich folks and get them to buy 
you dinner.)  And in the good old days we filled the space formerly 
occupied by groceries with cases of Coors beer, for resale back home. 

>Whoops.  From previous posts, I have gleened (sp?) that Glenwood Springs
>is more than 15 miles from Vail.  

Ahh, then you should check out this aging bar/restaurant that is just a
few miles up the road, perhaps the exit after Beaver?  It appears to be 
the only legitimate (as opposed to artificially simulated) western 
feeding hole near Vail.  Of course, it may get shut down if we talk 
about it too much....  look for the muddy parking lot.  Great burritos.

--
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Many questions... 
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 22:23:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.200519.16064@watson.ibm.com> crispin@watson.ibm.com
(Crispin Cowan) writes:
>Not quite the idea.  Ski bums do economize on everything but skiing, but
>that frequently includes good equipment, and always includes keeping it
>in shape.  If you can't afford to have a shop maintain them (which is
>pretty cheap), then you buy an iron and learn to do it yourself.

The "real"[tm] ski bum doesn't give his skis to a shop but trusts his own
skills at tuning, P-texing, filing, waxing, etc.  It's a way to
"get into the ski."  Same goes for ski bumettes and bicyclists.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Ah hem....: How do I wax my skis?
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:10:43 GMT
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <1992Jul30.204452.28751@linus.mitre.org>
sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>>Ski Vail.
>
>What ever happened to 'Ski Utah'? :)

8^)
Oh, Utah is just a myth created by the Church of Latter Day Saints
(founder Joseph Smith, Sgt. at Arms: Brigham Young) to attract potential
new converts to wearing their special brand of underwear.
License plates which proclaim "World's Greatest Snow" are part of a
grand scheme to get money from unsuspecting Gentile tourists.
In reality, the snow is salt from the Great Salt Lake.  Tough on the edges.
Waxing them over summer does not help.  The tourists come and drive up
90 South (Little Cottonwood Canyon) where, notice that tunnel on the left,
they are driven in droves and brainwashed into thinking they have had a
fantastic vacation when in reality they have been forced to watch all kinds of
Mormon indoctrination: to go out and spread the word.  Think about the next
time you see said tunnel in 60s style bombshelter construction.
Absolutely sinister.

What say yea Brother Utahns?

Play safe.  Ski Vail.

>Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
>"Welcome to the Politically Correct States of America. Please turn your mind
>in to the nearest oppressed minority pressure group. It will be returned to
>you once we've decided what you can think"

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
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	8^)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: ssh@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Many questions... (was Re: Is there an FAQ for this group?)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:00:01 GMT
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
	<1992Jul21.121833.41783@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
	<1992Jul21.200519.16064@watson.ibm.com>
Organization: ISSC Boulder

In article <1992Jul21.200519.16064@watson.ibm.com> crispin@watson.ibm.com (Crispin Cowan) writes:
>Not quite the idea.  Ski bums do economize on everything but skiing, but
>that frequently includes good equipment, and always includes keeping it
>in shape.

Righto.  In fact, a real ski bum will spend money on his equipment and figure
out ways to ski for free!  Tote dynamite for the patrol, shovel the sidewalks,
guide a tour...  Whatever it takes!
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
if it's to be, it's up to me...                                    ISSC Boulder
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Again?
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 07:03:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.200354.10140@nlm.nih.gov> berman@nlm.nih.gov writes:
>>Ski Vail.
>No, No, No!  Only ski in UTAH!

Okay, Haas, Geer, get out the salt, and the Gold Plates.  We should also
get out the copies of the Book of Morman, the tracks, potential LDS converts
coming your way. Start the discussions of Brigham Young. Direct them to
Park City and Deer Valley.  Set up the avalanche hazard warning signs
in the Cottonwood Canyons.

Hope you like the Tabernacle Choir. 8^)
Smile a lot.  Land of Zion and all that.

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jym@cruz.denver.sgi.com ()
Subject: Re: A waterskiing question
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:16:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.171725.4319@advtech.uswest.com>, jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi) writes:
|> AUGH!  one of those evil(tm) waterskiiers!!  what ARE we gonna do?
|> 

Put him/her at the top of A-basin on a pair of REAL skiis and give them a
shove.

jim t
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: crispin@watson.ibm.com (Crispin Cowan)
Subject: Re: Many questions... (was Re: Is there an FAQ for this group?)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:05:19 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Jul21.121833.41783@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <BrpG2J.4Hs@solbourne.com>, gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber) writes:
>> 3. If you're trying to save money, why the hell are you going to Vail?
>> There's probably a Taco Bell in Dillon, dunno about Vail.
>
>Because I like Vail, as do many other people.  I am splurging on the skiing
>but economizing on everything else.  Kind of what Ski Bums do.

Not quite the idea.  Ski bums do economize on everything but skiing, but
that frequently includes good equipment, and always includes keeping it
in shape.  If you can't afford to have a shop maintain them (which is
pretty cheap), then you buy an iron and learn to do it yourself.  Not
doing anything at all for ten years is kinda missing the boat on being a
ski bum.

Crispin, 2nd generation ski bum
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: raymond@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Eric A. Raymond)
Subject: How to be a SKI Bum (for a short period)?
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:37:05 GMT

I'm toying with the idea of taking off for a month or two during the
upcoming winter.  I was thinking of bumming in Colorado or Utah.

  - Any suggestions on places to go in terms of variety/challenge of
    mountains, mellow atmosphere, housing, jobs?
  - How to find a place to stay?
  - Where to meet cool people?
  - How to get part-time employment (with the free ski pass)?
  - Is there something like a month long season's pass?
  
One problem I forsee is that I probably won't spend more than a month
or two (I'm thinking late Jan to early March), but if the skiing is
good ....  Also, I may need to make one or two business trips while
I'm out there.

I might be able to do w/o a job if I save up lots of vacation time,
but then I would need to worry about the tradeoff for daily .vs.
seasons pass for a short period.

Any other tips?

Will getting out there late in the season be a big disadvantage?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: aab@progress.COM (Adam A. Backman)
Subject: Re: Khombi snowboard gloves
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:31:41 GMT

kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:

>Have any of the snowboarders out there in netland ever bought
>Khombi snowboarding gloves?  I've seen them advertised but they always
>sell out in the stores.  How good are the ones with the plastic thumb
>piece and plastic wrist inserts?  (I'm trying to justify the price)
> - Kirk

Kirk -

I have a pair and they are really quite good.  There are only two slight
problems with them.  One, on REALLY cold days they do not keep your hands
as warm as they could (Minor problem).  Two, When your hands sweat the 
glove liners put out and it is a pain getting them turned right side in
again.  Aside from that they are much nicer that my duct tape reinforced
gloves that they replaced.

-Adam
 aab@progress.com
From: hudgens@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: RE: When do the packages come out
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:31:39 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, shieh@austin.ibm.com wrote:
> 
>When is the beginning of the "official"
>ski season?  What I mean is that I've been
>waiting for the brochures from all the resorts
>covering their packages.  August?  September?
>-- 

   I am president of a local ski club.  As far as I can tell, the "official"
ski season began two weeks ago. I keep getting calls from hotels (e.g., Vail,
Aspen, ...) and travel agencies trying to sell the club package deals. I'm
already tired of it.

  I can't tell whether I've suddenly landed on these folks "call" lists this
year or perhaps the resorts are running scared because of the triple-dip
recession.  Running scared seems unlikely since Colorado had a banner year
for skier-days in 1992.

  However, I'm mindful of the situation at NIST in Gaithersburg, MD.  Our club
participation dropped by 50% last year.  It seems that although the average
employee at NIST stayed employed, in many of their spouse's jobs terminated or
were under threat. So many dedicated skiers stayed home. Perhaps the increased 
number of ski area calls reflects these vendor's bets on the economy.

(In normal years I don't hear from anybody until mid-August.)

Jeff Hudgens
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: SCHROEDE@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Re: When do the tumbleweeds come out in western Kansas?
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:58:09 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Jul20.144122.41760@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
 
> Last winter in November, I did take a road trip to Denver, and saw millions
> of tumbleweeds flying across I-70.  I had to dodge them--there were so many.
> But two months later, when my roommates were with me, no tumbleweeds.
> 
> Do tumbleweeds have a 'season' when they are around.  Is this 'season' 
> early winter?   
> Anybody got any ideas?
> 
shoot...one spring when my friends an I were driving out from st. louis
we saw tons of 'em.  One even got stuck in the roof rack and stayed there
until we stopped in Limon(sp) colorado.  This thing was soo big that it
took two of us to pull it out.  we had the stuff all in out bindings and
severything.....needless to say we commanded quite a few stares from
people on 70 in the old 'burban

two cents,
doug

coming back we didn't see a 1
From: jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Is there a Taco Bell in Vail?
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:01:06 GMT
Organization: US West Information Technologies

In article <1992Jul20.144307.41761@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a Taco Bell in Vail?
>
>If not, then where is the nearest one?
>
>This sounds corny, but my roommates and I are Taco Bell fanatics...
>
>Thanks,


i was going to make some snide remark here, but have reconsidered.

rats.  i need to control my "F" key...


cheers,
-- 
John Salmi		<jsalmi@uswest.com>		(303) 595-2863

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: smlacke@isrc.sandia.gov (Scott M Lackey)
Subject: Fixing bent tips?
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Org. 1600, Albq., NM
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:22:33 GMT

	I have a pair of Blizzard Thermo SLs and last season I managed to
bend a tip slightly but noticeably.  I've skied on them several times
since and they work well enough except for not tracking well at real
high speeds.  Being a poverty stricken grad student who can barely
afford to ski anyway I was wondering what can be done to fix them.
Especially how much $$$ and whether I can expect the fix to last.
Any info will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Scott Lackey.
P.S.  Any water skiers around Albuquerque with a boat they would
like to pull me around with?  I'd let you use my jet ski gladly.

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: How do I wax my skis?
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:42:09 GMT

In article <122930154@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes) writes:
>> 
>> I have some old K2 skis (195 cm).  I am tired of everybody and their mother
>> coasting past me on semi-flat slopes...
>>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>That's your problem!  Get off those semi-flat slopes onto something
>*steep*!   Then you won't have any problems going fast.  In fact, just 
>the opposite...
>
>John
>Personally I'd rather see him stay on his "semi-flat" slopes (is that kinda
self  contradictory?... flat+slopes?) and I won't have to worry about getting
out of his way when he comes tumbling off some cliff on a steeper trail.
I'm perfectly happy NOT seeing some guy outta control on a black diamond trail
because he  got cut off by someone's mother (or grandmother for that matter).

							Happy Shredding!
							Todd S.
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Khombi snowboard gloves
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:48:54 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Have any of the snowboarders out there in netland ever bought
Khombi snowboarding gloves?  I've seen them advertised but they always
sell out in the stores.  How good are the ones with the plastic thumb
piece and plastic wrist inserts?  (I'm trying to justify the price)
 - Kirk
Newsgroups: rec.skiing