HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: costin@cs.mcgill.ca (Costin RIZAN)
Subject: Re: Bush is a mother fucker
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:32:21 GMT

In article <BvqAnK.7yx@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.191244.19614@ra.msstate.edu> cea1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Carolyn E. Adams-Price) writes:
>>And....to all of you who think the problem with the US is
>>business regulation, I say, I hope you drown in the pollution
>>or are hurt by an end to safety standards that an end to business
>>regulation would cause!!!!!
>
>You obviously know nothing about business, nad I wish people like you who
>want to tell people like me how to run MY business would keep your bloody
>nose out of my business.  As for as I have seen in the chemical, automotive,
>and computer industries, government regulations do little if anything to
>prevent pollution and improve safety, and often make these these things 
>worse.  What they do accomplish is to make everything a business wants to
>do much more difficult.  Think aobut it.  If you wanted to start a small 
>manufacturing business based on your personal savings, how many THOUSANDS
>of hours of time is nedessary to abide by (and even understand) all of the
>relevant government regulations?  

	Exuse me but if you are going to operate a business that risks
hurting other people it is up to you to learn how to operate it safely.

>
>If my business results in some harm to someone, go ahead and sue the hell out
>of me, but don't tell me how to run my business until then.  Perhaps you 
>think that this should be applied to individual people too?  Have you
>ever heard of the concept of innocent until proven guilty?  

	First of all, if your business kills me or someone that is close
to me, sueing you won't help much. Doing something that you know might 
prove dangerous to human health until you get caught (or sued) is considered
criminal negligence. Besides, once you start getting "sued the hell out
of" you'll loose your business anyways. It's obviously simpler to follow
regulations which are, more often than not, there for a good reason.

>
>I don't really care whether you hate businessmen and think they all want to
>poison everyone.  My respect for the source of such hatred is so low that
>it doesn't matter much to me.  What matters is when people like you have the
>government force people like me to abide by your oh-so-enlightened views
>on how businesses ought to be run.  Who the hell do you think you are
>anyway?  My boss?
>
>If you don't think that government regulations don't impose a terrible cost 
>on businesses, you obviously know nothing about running a business, and ought
>to keep your nose out of the business of those who do.
>
	Who gives a damn about cost on businesses when human life is in
stake? If you are such a business expert you know as well as I do that
businesses do not regulate themselves where environment and safety
is concerned. If you need convincing take a trip down to Mexico and check
out 'La Maquilladora'. Would you raise your family in a place like that?


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From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Re: You're a racist! statements
Originator: cs911461@a01.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:48:54 GMT


In article <LABACH.92Oct7125859@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:

>> By the way, chuckles, I'm a physicist.  Just so you don't think all
>> scientists agree with your paranoid delusions.  I also helped found the
>> U of Saskatchewan chapter of Canadian Student Pugwash, a group of
>> science students who take the time to consider the morality of their
>> work and of science.  Scientists with morals are not as non-existent as
>> you'd like to believe.

	Scientists with YOUR morals.  Who's to say that your morals
	are the right ones?  Are you a "Jesus"?


>> "We scientists, whose tragic destination has been to help in making the
>>  methods of annihilation more gruesome and more effective, must consider
>>  it our solemn and transcendent duty to do all in our power in preventing
>>  these weapons from being used for the brutal purpose for which they
>>  were invented,  What task could possibly be more important for us?
>>  What social aim could be closer to our hearts?"
>>  - Albert Einstein

	Sounds like bomb-guilt to me.  I'm glad the bomb exists.  Because
	of it, there was no WW3, but I digress.

	Look here, I would have no moral problem if I were called upon
	to invent the atom bomb.  My morals are my own and you're not
	going to tell me what they should be.

	My impression of you is that you're ready to impose your morals
	onto others but have a double standard insofar as it pertains to 
	cultural differences.  Get it together, man.


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca
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From: labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,soc.culture.canada
Subject: White-colour criminals (was: Re: NET CHALLENGE)
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:00:51 GMT
Organization: The Bobby Jurasin Fan Club
Originator: labach@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca

cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes:

> I'm so sick of being treated like a criminal in the country I was born
> (Canada) simply because I'm white.  Bring on the melting-pot.  This
> "mosaic" garbage is a noble idea but is only a fine example of simple-
> minded idealism.  That is, itself, a crime greater than anything Hitler
> could have ever done.

You know Chris, in all your backtracking on what Einstein believed and
in whether the US military would fund research at Canadian universities,
and whether plagiarism is good or bad, you've been neatly sidetracking
the issue that first proved you to be a paranoid with persecution
fantasies.  This is, of course, the issue of your alleged persecution.

You insist that you, as a white living in Canada, are treated "like a
criminal" (in your own words).  I'd like to know the details of this
persecution.  Could you please indicate which of the following you have
undergone:

 - arrest (please include date and name of arresting officer)
 - criminal charges (include nature of alleged offense, name of complainant)
 - trial (include date, court, judge, verdict, and sentence)
 - appeals (relate to previous trials, include decisions)
 - incarceration (location of jail or prison, dates of stay)
 - harassment or torture by police (include date, police force involved)
 - false arrest by police (include date, police force involved)

For all of the above, include the reasons why you think that your skin
colour was related to being "treated like a criminal in the country I
was born (Canada)".

Anyone else who has been treated as a criminal in Canada, solely
because for being white, should also feel free to post a reply to this
set of questions.

(Of course Chris, if it turns out that you complain that you're treated
like a criminal only by virtue of the fact that some people criticize
your blathering paranoid nonsense, you're not going to look very good or
very credible.)

- terry -
----------------------------------------------------------------------
'"Whitey" must think about golf or something whenever he passes a female
 who's religion ordains that she wear a scarf on her head and not show her
 legs to anyone but her husband because this is such an admirable custom.'

 - C. Armour-Kidson, cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca, in alt.politics.democrats.d
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Rush is...
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:13:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.150808.17209@ryn.mro4.dec.com> walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct12.152812.6457@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>BTW--notice how countries that were (and a few that still are)
>>communist use have "Democratic" in their names?? (i.e. German DEMOCRATIC
>>Republic).>
>
>BTW...
>
>Peoples REPUBLIC of China....
>Union of Soviet Socialist REPUBLICs....
>
>REPUBLICan party?   Could there be a connection????
>--

Geez, I admit, you got me on that one.  And no profane flame.

But I'll keep the jokes rolling- check alt.rush-limbaugh

:-)

Simon

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From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Re: Canadian Cowardice (was: Re: White-colour criminals)
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:04:34 GMT

In article <LABACH.92Oct15140051@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:
>
>You insist that you, as a white living in Canada, are treated "like a
>criminal" (in your own words).  I'd like to know the details of this
>persecution.  Could you please indicate which of the following you have
>undergone:
>
> - arrest (please include date and name of arresting officer)
> - criminal charges (include nature of alleged offense, name of complainant)
> - trial (include date, court, judge, verdict, and sentence)
> - appeals (relate to previous trials, include decisions)
> - incarceration (location of jail or prison, dates of stay)
> - harassment or torture by police (include date, police force involved)
> - false arrest by police (include date, police force involved)
>

Poor fool... allow me to illustrate:

My younger sister goes to a very ethnically diverse high school.  One
day, a math test was held (no big deal).  She scored the highest in the
class, behind a Chinese girl.  The Chinese girl is now *convinced* that
Mr. Dombrowski, the teacher, is a racist and has said so publicly.  Her
parents believe her and are furious at the teacher.  Please note that
this was MATH (not English or history) where the answer is either 
right, or it is wrong.

By corollary, my sister is also a racist because she beat this girl in
a math test.

That's what I call being treated like a criminal.

I also feel I'm being treated like a criminal when stupid Canadians 
(please note, I have not yet been flamed by an American) employ ever
so typical sophistry while cutting and pasting my verbiage from all
over in an attempt to build up their own insecure Canadian 
personalities.  Once a bronze medal winner, always a bronze medal 
winner, I guess.

I'm not out to win any personality contests, but I am still very 
flattered that Mr. Labach insists on increasing my fame and stature
by carefully quoting everything I say.  Thank you for spreading my
gospel.  I really appreciate it and look forward to the next in-
stallment.

But instead of resorting to "cut and paste" tactics, why don't you let
everyone in on your little opinion.  Being a Canadian, I'm sure you're
not allowed to have one, but try anyway.  At least I have the guts to
come clean.  Coward.


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca


Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Re: You're a racist! statements
Originator: cs911461@t03.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:17:39 GMT


In article <LABACH.92Oct7232503@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct3.221709.334@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>
>> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes: 
>> >    What about vegetarian-terrorists and eco-freaks?  These are just
>> >    modern Marxists.  What makes them worse than the true variety
>> >    is that they don't have a Das Kapital behind them yet.
>> 
>> And what did you think of Das Kapital when you read it?

	I didn't like it.  Karl Marx sure could spin a phrase but
	Das Kapital is nothing more than an interesting piece of
	literature.  In this sense, it is the same as the Bible.
 
>> (Note to the sarcasm-impaired:  It is almost certain that Mr. Christian
>> has not read Das Kapital, either the non-WASP, "foreign tongue" German
>> edition or any English translation.  After all, he can't even tell the
>> difference between someone who accepts Marxist tenets of political
>> economy and historical development and someone who doesn't eat meat.)

	(Note to the literary-impaired: good readers of English (or any other
	language) should be able to discern what is to be taken as a literal
	statement and a what is a linear analogy of terms.  The skilled 
	reader would have been able to recognise instantly that the "Marxist /
	Das Kapital" terms have been used to identify radical "change the 
	world NOW" political philosophies and their supporting dogma or
	"holy texts").

	Reading Marx does not mean agreement with Marx.  Similarly, 
	absolute agreement with Marx implies having read Marx.  Many,
	many idiots haven't read Marx but agree with his perverted
	analysis of political-economic history.  Many other idiots
	insist that those who do not agree with Marx have not read
	his "Bible".

>> Let's see how the Armour dictionary of English is progressing:
>> 
>>   Marxist, n. A vegetarian.
>> 
>>   Vegetarian-terrorist, n.  One who detonates cows, and is likely to
>>   be an eco-freak (cf. Marxist) as well.  Speaks English with an accent.
>> 
>>   Whitey, n.  An oppressed White Anglo-Saxon Protestant virgin, who is
>>   downtrodden by foreign devils in his own country.

	Remind me not to hire you as my editor.  

>> Whatever would Doctor Johnson say?

	Probably that you haven't gotten laid in a while.


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d
From: labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach)
Subject: Re: You're a racist! statements
Originator: labach@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:45:18 GMT
Distribution: york
	<LABACH.92Oct6084859@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>
	<1992Oct6.173553.18800@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>
Organization: The Bobby Jurasin Fan Club

In article <1992Oct6.173553.18800@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes:
   In article <LABACH.92Oct6084859@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:
> >> In article <1992Oct2.000441.27536@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>
> >> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes: 
> >> Of course, I'm sure the fact that a blatant counter-example like this to
> >> your paranoid fantasies won't change your mind.  (WHY do they let
> >> undergraduates post to Usenet?)
> 
> 	   You're assuming that undergrads are garbage just like you
> 	   assume WASPs are garbage... predjudiced faux-liberal.

No, I do not think that undergraduates are garbage.  I think that
undergraduates often have insufficient life experience to recognize when
they are relating fantasy as fact.  Everything you have written about
the hardships that white Canadians must face is a complete fabrication.
Were you older and wiser in the ways of the world, you might have a
better perspective on what hardship is.

What got you going about "whitey" and non-whites.  Scared by a viewing
of "My Beautiful Launderette"?  Listened to too many Rush albums?

I don't think WASPs are garbage either.  I think they're a minority
among many others.  But I judge people on their own merits, not on
whether they are white, anglo-saxon, or protestant.  (nor black,
catholic, or any other racial, religious, or ethnic criterion one might
name).

Don't ascribe to me your delusion of assuming racial groups are
homogeneous blocks of dullards who blindly follow some pre-ordained plan
to conquer the world.

- terry -
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"The study of history is the best medicine for a sick mind."
 - The Roman historian Livy
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton
From: joe blow
Subject: Re: Bush is...
Reply-To: joe.blow@some.institution
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 18:18:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.091858.2383@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
|>
|>You were asking for examples of alleged liberal hypocrisy concerning
|>free speech.  What I was talking about wa not a specific case but rather
|>just what I run into on a regular basis.  Whenever the subject of Limbaugh
|>comes up in a discussion the first thing heard is some obscenity.
|>
Why does this disturb you?  Limbaugh is a pig!  He doesn't even know what
debate means.  Anyone with an opposing opinion to rush's is ridiculed and
never taken seriously.  Only those who agree with him seem to be respected
by him.  He distorts truth by leaving out many facts involved with any 
subject at hand.  he is a pig.  so is george bush. 

|>Simon
           
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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Bush is...
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:18:58 GMT


You were asking for examples of alleged liberal hypocrisy concerning
free speech.  What I was talking about wa not a specific case but rather
just what I run into on a regular basis.  Whenever the subject of Limbaugh
comes up in a discussion the first thing heard is some obscenity.

I always hear the stupid "fascist Republicans" remark.  Now, I'm in
College Republicans and we never go around heckling the Democrats,
but some idiot comes up to our table and makes some stupid remark,
instead of starting an intelligent deabte.
Simon
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d
From: labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach)
Subject: Re: You're a racist! statements
Originator: labach@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:25:03 GMT
	<1992Oct3.043326.2983@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
	<1992Oct3.221709.334@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>
Organization: The Bobby Jurasin Fan Club

In article <1992Oct3.221709.334@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR) writes: 
>    What about vegetarian-terrorists and eco-freaks?  These are just
>    modern Marxists.  What makes them worse than the true variety
>    is that they don't have a Das Kapital behind them yet.

And what did you think of Das Kapital when you read it?

(Note to the sarcasm-impaired:  It is almost certain that Mr. Christian
has not read Das Kapital, either the non-WASP, "foreign tongue" German
edition or any English translation.  After all, he can't even tell the
difference between someone who accepts Marxist tenets of political
economy and historical development and someone who doesn't eat meat.)

Let's see how the Armour dictionary of English is progressing:

  Marxist, n. A vegetarian.

  Vegetarian-terrorist, n.  One who detonates cows, and is likely to
  be an eco-freak (cf. Marxist) as well.  Speaks English with an accent.

  Whitey, n.  An oppressed White Anglo-Saxon Protestant virgin, who is
  downtrodden by foreign devils in his own country.

Whatever would Doctor Johnson say?

- terry -
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Suicidal paranoids will say anything to get laid."
 - Jack (Jeff Bridges) in _The Fisher King_
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From: walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Rush is...
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:08:08 GMT
Reply-To: walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Oct12.152812.6457@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>BTW--notice how countries that were (and a few that still are)
>communist use have "Democratic" in their names?? (i.e. German DEMOCRATIC
>Republic).>

BTW...

Peoples REPUBLIC of China....
Union of Soviet Socialist REPUBLICs....

REPUBLICan party?   Could there be a connection????
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Thomas Walsh 		walsh@via.enet.dec.com		Nashua, NH

:opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employers
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From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bush is...
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:48:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.democrats.d
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

joe.blow@some.institution writes:
.sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
.|>You were asking for examples of alleged liberal hypocrisy concerning
.|>free speech.  What I was talking about wa not a specific case but rather
.|>just what I run into on a regular basis.  Whenever the subject of Limbaugh
.|>comes up in a discussion the first thing heard is some obscenity.
.|>
.Why does this disturb you?  Limbaugh is a pig!  He doesn't even know what
.debate means.  Anyone with an opposing opinion to rush's is ridiculed and
.never taken seriously.  Only those who agree with him seem to be respected
.by him.  He distorts truth by leaving out many facts involved with any 
.subject at hand.  he is a pig.  so is george bush. 

Someone hasn't been listening to Rush's show that long. Rush actually
WELCOMES calls from those who disagree with him. However the people who
do call to disagree with him sound like fools themselves. Rush doesn't
need any help in ridiculing them.
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck		eyc@acpub.duke.edu
Biomedical Engineer 1993	Never take me too seriously.
I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Re: You're a racist! statements
Originator: cs911461@a01.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:27:59 GMT



In article <LABACH.92Oct9081446@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, labach@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terence Michael Labach) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct8.003634.2999        In <1992Oct1.012930.10466           
>> @newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>                @newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>            
>> cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D.   cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D
>> ARMOUR) writes:                         ARMOUR) writes:                     
>>                                                                             
>>  This is further proof that a white     I'm so sick of being treated like a 
>>  person cannot even mention the issue   criminal in the country I was born  
>>  of race relations without being        (Canada) simply because I'm white.  
>>  called a racist.                       Bring on the melting-pot.  This     
>> 					"mosaic" garbage is a noble idea but
>> 					is only a fine example of simple-   
>> 					minded idealism.  That is, itself, a
>> 					crime greater than anything Hitler  
>> 					could have ever done.
>> 					


Good God.  Yet another "Your a racist!" rant.  Get it together man.
You're the racist here.  What if I am treated like a criminal?  What
if it's because I dare to say things that everyone else can say, but
a white male can't?  Fuck.


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,soc.culture.canada