Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 12:11:46 GMT
From: Richard Pierson <fist@iscp.bellcore.com>
Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy
Subject: Re: Digitized Pictures and Signatures
Reply-To: Richard Pierson <fist@iscp.bellcore.com>
Organization: Leave the %$#*%$# Bylaws Alone
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In article <comp-privacy1.110.10@pica.army.mil>, "Dave Niebuhr, BNL CCD,
516-282-3093" <NIEBUHR@bnlcl6.bnl.gov> writes:
|> Several people have discussed digitizing drivers liscense signatures
|> and
|> pictures and also digitized signatures on voting records.
|> 
|> My employer issues digitized IDs for every employee, guest employee
|> and
|> contractor on site (the ID number IS NOT the SSN).  The signature is
|> made using an ordinary felt tip pen and when the picture is taken,
|> both
|> are recorded on a CD for later reproduction on a credit card-like
|> piece
|> of plastic with a magnetic stripe on the back (no, I can't find out
|> what
|> if anything is on that stripe according to Personnel and Security).
|> 
|> I do worry about the NY DMV having this kind of information though,
|> since it is not the world's most efficient organization.

What ??? You object to the little bit of "free enterprise"
that the state clerk might engage in by selling the info
to interested parties..how "unAmerican" can ya get.
Had a friend who was 3 months behind on his mortage payments,
he got 10-20 mail offers for the next 6 months offering "low"
22% interest rates on loans to "help him" catch up, "No credit
check required, just sign on the dotted line and put a stamp on
the return envelope", they stopped after he got caught up and
paid the house off though, he and his wife took 3 months off
to tour Europe and he paid his mortgage in advance telling them
he would be gone, they screwed up and took one payment and the
rest off his principal.
NYDMV not efficient..what other organization except maybe 
NJDMV or PennDOT can screw up your license and registration
at renewel time and then take a year to tell you about it.
Actually NJ is pretty good, at least you can talk to a person
without driving 2 hours like in Penn (Harrisburg). I took a
car off the road to clean up and sell when I bought a new one
for my wife (both in her name) six months later they still had
the older one registered along with the new one ON THE SAME PLATE.
I could not get the older one a plate without filling out a request
form at the agent I was using..would take 2 weeks to get a new plate.
It was faster to sell the car from my wife to me and get a new bill
of sale, then I could get a plate "instantly". It took 2 weeks alone
to find out the plate was not changed, they would not tell me over the
phone (or the agent either..and she works for them) what plate was on
it.
Some police departments are using cellular communications and gif
format for dmv licenses. They can access your picture, signature and
history from the police car using a modified PC. The response time
for the whole file is 30 seconds and it works very well thank you.
They also have it tied into the full data base for criminal history
and other items of interest and can literally update your file 
(including picture) completely if they have the camera handy incase
you have grown a beard or shaved one off recently.
I wonder how much longer it'll be before everyone has "implants"
"for indentification puproses" with "the public good in mind" what,
you don't want one, what are you hiding.

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