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From: kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders )
Subject: printer driver for Panasonic KX-P2123
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Originator: kxs5829@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:04:30 GMT

	I'm looking for a printer driver for the Panasonic KX-P2123 24pin
dot-matrix printer.

	- Kyle

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From: huebner@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Huebner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: font editor
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:20:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <OD.6BadNetOA92-901-231p0_4eb40584@piraya.bad.se> Ola_Engebretsen@f231.n901.z92.badnet.bad.se (Ola Engebretsen) writes:
>> Does anyone know where I can find a font editor?
> 
>Take a look on your Extras disk.
>
>--- 

If I was supposed to get a font editor with my 2.04 workbench, I got
ripped off!  You're right, tho, that 1.3 included one.

For 2.04 check out WBFED (available on any ftp site mirrored off the
excellent amiga.physik.unizh.ch site).  There might be a better one out
there but this one worked for me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: SAS C 6.0
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:07:27 GMT

In article <BtLCA0.M4G@unx.sas.com> walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) writes:

>|> manual, and it looks pretty sharp (although in the version they sent me, the
>|> "[]" chars were printed in invisible ink, and it lacked an index).  If this

>improved from there.  Additions made after the ANSI library package
>were a better index (yes, the ANSI library package had an index), 

Not quite what I meant, read on...

>multiple tables at the beginning of the book listing functions by 
>different types of functionality, a listing of all library functions 

That's what I was referring to, actually, was the function listing.  The
version of the ANSI libs reference I got had none.  Not a problem, as I
put one together anyway (a must-have!).  I wonder if they added it later?

Well.  If the current release has it, then fine.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: j0nez@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (J0nez)
Subject: Final Copy/Kind Words problems.
Originator: j0nez@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:21:22 GMT

A question to the learned:

I have both Final Copy V1.3 and Kind Words V3.  The problem is the same with
both of them, and I can't find any help in the documentation.  When printing,
(on my Panasonic KX-P1124) both programs seem to think the page length is
longer than 11 inches. (For example, it will correctly set the top margin at
0.5 inches, while it will continue printing page #1 text onto a new sheet of
paper)  I know this is a murky explanation... I hope someone can decipher it.
It all boils down to this:  How can I make these programs print pages nicely
without running over or without having to go in and manually insert page
breaks all the time?  Any help will be greatly appreciated!

John W. Bowman

j0nez@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: amish@data.uchicago.edu (Amish Dave)
Subject: Re: Pagestream -> Mac -> LaserWriter WAS: PageStream page breaks
Summary: SendPS or PSPrinter
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:03:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.124956.12009@enea.se> tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson) writes:
>What I want to do is work with Pagestream on my A3000T and print the
>result on an Apple LaserWriter NTX on a Mac net at work. What do I
>need to do?
>
>Both my A3000T and the Mac can read/write DOS 1,44MB diskettes, so
>the physical transfer is simple.
>
>Should I take the fonts on Mac that the LaserWriter supports, convert
>the to Pagestream format so they can be used on the Amiga and then
>just print it to a PS file? When I move that file to the Mac, how
>can I print it, import it as an EPS object into Pagemaker (thinking
>of one-page documents) or is there a better solution?
>

I think that what you should do is first print to a postscript file,
then send the file to a Mac, and on the Mac, print it out with either
SendPS (I think this only works on System <7), or the Desk Accessory
PSPrinter (this does work with System 7).  You can get these programs
by anonymous ftp.

PSPrinter is at mac.archive.umich.edu in
  	/mac/system.extensions/da/psprinter.hqx

and SendPS is also probably somewhere there.  (or at sumex.stanford.edu)

To convert a .hqx file for use on a Mac, you could use something like
BinHex.


Good Luck,
Amish S. Dave (amish@data.uchicago.edu)
From: krc@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Archiver for the Amiga.
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:32:55 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

I know that there is ARJ for the IBM,. is there a program on the Amiga that
will extract from .ARJ files?  If you do know of any please let me know via
E-Mail,  I rarely have time to get into the newsgroups, thanks!

Keith Connors
-krc@eclx.psu.edu
From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: ULTIMATE AppMenu:   ToolsDaemon 2.0b
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:12:31 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


Hey, guys!

I just downloaded ToolsDaemon version 2.0b!
This utility is absolutly incredible!

You can create new workbench menus, sub menus, anything!
This is sooo cool.  My workbench menus now say:

Workbench  Window  Icons  Tools  System  Extras  Carolina
                                 ^^^^^^  ^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^

These three menus were created with ToolsDaemon (v2.0b)
and contain many, many entries.  System is for system utilities,
Extras is for applications, and Carolina is my wifes specialized menu!

Submenus, real bars, hot keys, everything!
Get this immeadiatly!

Greetings,

		Travis Carter
From: dale@ntg.com (Dale Luck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: WANTED:  Ethernet + X software for AmigaDOS
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:13:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA


In article vrr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (veenu.r.rashid) writes:
>
>WANTED:  AS225 + X-Windows software
>
>
>If you have purchased this software or have it sitting around
>with no use, here is your chance to get rid of it!  I will
>listen to all offers and accept the best one.

Heaven forbid that the software is sitting around not being used
by someone!.

On a serious note though:
You may be able to buy the software second hand, however support
and maintanance is only available direct from GfxBase.

If you are looking for something to just test the waters you might
try the demo version of X11 for $35.00 from GfxBase.

>Please email or call (908) 219-5935.
>Thanks very much,
>Veenu
>vrr@cbnewsj.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: c8908461@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Robert Lang)
Subject: Printer fonts from Excellence! ???
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:10:46 GMT

Ok, so I've dug through that manual, and can't figure out if its possible
or not.

My printer has a series of built-in fonts of varying sizes....is it possible
to switch between these during the document ???

ie. I know I can select the font for the WHOLE document, but not switch. What
I want to do is use a bigger LQ font for headings and stuff.....

When I select a bigger font in Excellence!, it goes to graphic mode to
draw it, I want to access the LQ fonts of my printer.

Perhaps a method to put raw codes into the text ?

Thanks,

Robert.
From: ezix@ucrengr.ucr.edu (edward j. zix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Latex to Ascii conversion.
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:08:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside


	Does anybody know of a good way to convert Latex documents to ascii?
I am looking for a solution on just about any platform.  It can be a Unix
based solution or MAC, Amiga  or even PC.  Does anyone have any idea how
to do this??

thanks.

->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
	    		Edward J. Zix
           		InterNet: ezix@ucrengr.ucr.edu
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: ProWrite & the DeskJet (Was: ProWrite 3.3 Press Release)
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:58:07 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <4587@disuns2.epfl.ch>, sarrasin@disuns2.epfl.ch (Christian Sarrasin) writes:
> 
> Sounds great! good job! But I have one more concern: there used to be a problem
> with previous versions of ProWrite affecting printing to HP DeskJet printers,
> and especially positioning of the top margin. Has this finally been fixed?
> 
> (and no, I don't want to hear again that the bug is within the DeskJet itself 
>  or within the driver, because others WP's and DTP's program (including Excel-
>  lence! and PageStream) can output to it without any problem , using the same
>  printer & driver (well ok, Pagestream uses a custom driver!))

I used to have this identical problem with QuickWrite.  I purchased DJ Helper
from Creative Focus and use its driver instead of the Commodore driver.  The
problem went away.  Since you don't want me to tell you it's a driver problem,
I'll let you draw your own conclusions...

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From: hemmer@hemmer.adsp.sub.org (Franz Hemmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: AppMenu applications
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:36:39 GMT
Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmden!hemmer@cbmvax.commodore.com (Franz Hemmer)
Organization: InterActivsion
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <27AUG199207200890@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov> smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon) writes:

> I went home last night, pulled up DirMaster to find where i have the
> version of ParM from the above disk, got it, unarced it.  Checked the config
> file by running Parm of the CLI, no probs
> 
> I checked versions, all seem ok
> 
> so i go 'parm -m'.

How can you go `parm -m' ? You are NOT using V3.6 if you can do this. I just
tried it, and ParM refuses to take a parameter like `-m'. So please try

                         ParM MYMENU

okay? An make sure you `LoadWB' before you do.

> Michael Neylon   aka Masem the Great and Almighty Thermodynamics GOD!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender)
Subject: Land Surveyor Software?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:20:49 GMT


	I thought i seen a article here awhile ago about some
	software for surveyors? Anyone know of the availability
	of such software either PD, Share, or Commercial?
	Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: smneyln@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael Neylon)
Subject: Re: New Aquarium files
Summary: Where are they?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Aquarium, Fish
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 27 Aug 1992 12:42 EST  

In article <4368@equinox.unr.edu>, dollens@equinox.unr.edu (C Blake Dollens) writes...
>Does anyone out there know of an ftp site that maintains the _latest_ files
>for Aquarium?  I have the data files through disk 690, but there are now
>720 disks, and I can't seem to find files for those remaining thirty.
>Can anybody help there?  Thanks in advance!
>
Try ux1.cso.uiuc.edu  They have em up to 720, so that is what you need...

A quick scan of the new disks indicate a lot of version upgrading, IMO...


>Blake
>-- 
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>  -Phil, Mike, and Tony |  one, if it's the kind you're drinking in, to end a
>Blake Dollens           |  sentence with a preposition, which I haven't."
>dollens@equinox.unr.edu |                            -Walter Slovotsky
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From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Unix compatible crypt utility needed
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:01:05 EDT
Organization: Private Use

In article <17i0imINN3n@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> keller@cse.ucsc.edu (Jeffrey M. Keller) writes:
> In article <phil.714897700@adam.adelaide.edu.au> phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick) writes:
> >exukev@exu.ericsson.se (Kevin Autrey) writes:
> >
> >>I've got some files I've encrypted on a Unix workstation that I want
> >>to decrypt on my Amiga.  They were encrypted using "crypt" on the Sun
> >>(which, I believe, uses the DES encryption scheme).  Does any Amiga
> >>utility decrypt data encrypted with Unix's "crypt"?
> >
> >I think that you may not quite understand how crypt works.
> ...
> >(Followups directed to sci.crypt)
> >
> >-- 
> >   _-_|\    Phil Kernick                E-Mail: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au
> >  /     \   Departmental Engineer       Phone:  +61 8 228 5914
> >  \_.-*_/   Dept. of Psychology         Fax:    +61 8 224 0464
> >       v    University of Adelaide      Mail:   GPO Box 498 Adelaide SA 5001
> 
> 
> 
> No, no, no!  Please don't take this to sci.crypt.  Keep it in one of
> the Amiga newsgroups.  (Maybe comp.unix.amiga would do well?)
> 
> Phil -- I don't think he's asking for the Crypt Breaker's Workbench;
> I think he just wants a compatible crypt program, and there are
> probably several on uunet, etc.
> 
> Then again, he seems to be posting from Sweden, so it would be a no-no
> for him to get the stuff from the US.  I imagine there are good archive
> servers in Europe, if he cares about that...
> 
> --
> Jeff Keller <keller@cse.ucsc.edu>       CIS Board, UCSC
> "If X is the answer, what was the question?" --David Fuller

Side comment:  Ericsson's US businesses get their E-mail routed through
Sweden (don't ask me why).  This is at least true of the branches in VA, NC,
and SC; I don't know whether the TX offices do also.  Mr. Autry may very
well be a US citizen working here in the US, in which case the restrictions
on distribution of the DES algorithm wouldn't apply.

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From: pat@ocf.berkeley.edu (Patrick Horio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: INCREDIBLE AMIGA SALE - CHEAP !!!
Date: 23 Aug 1992 18:43:46 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: ocf.berkeley.edu

I am selling a load of Amiga products at VERY CHEAP prices.  Everything
comes with all instructions, etc. and is in PERFECT, LIKE NEW condition.

Amiga 500 with CSA Mega-Midget Racer Accelerator (68030/68882 25 MHz),
  WB 2.0 Operating System, 1 Meg Chip Ram, 512k of 32-bit ram (on CSA board)

  $600 !!!

GVP Series II external HD with 52Meg Quantum LPS and 
  2 Megs of Ram installed (expandable to 8 Megs)  

  $350 !!!

Commodore 1084S stereo color monitor

  $150 !!!

I  am selling these cheap simply because I need money now !!!
I will split shipping&handling charges with the buyer as well.  If you
are interested, please mail me back at

pat@ocf.berkeley.edu 

or call me at  (510)643-2120

Thanx a lot and reply soon if you want to take advantage of this 
incredible deal !!!
From: simon@ivem.uucp (Simon Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: SAS C 6.0
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:14:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivem.ucsd.edu

In article <BtJJr5.Hu7@unx.sas.com> jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper) writes:
>It includes over 1200 pages of new documentation.  Almost everything
>from the previous docs was rewritten, several new sections added, etc.
>
>The docs are now a two volume *full 8 1/2 x 11* set (in three-ring
>binders, of course! :-), with an extra quick-reference guide.  There is
>also ~700K of online HyperText style docs.
>-- 
>---------------
>Jim Cooper
>(jamie@unx.sas.com)                             bix: jcooper
>
>Any opinions expressed herein are mine (Mine, all mine!  Ha, ha, ha!),
>and not necessarily those of my employer.

Are you guys thinking about or planning on any other development other than
C?  For example maybe a great C++ compiler, CASE tools, etc?  I've seen the
new Borland C++ for Windows and it is amazing in it's flexability and
abilities!  It has different color for different text type :), a structure
listing of all the classes, which goes all the way down to the constructors,
etc.  It's is great!  I hope you plan on such development, and I'm confident
you will seeing the new release of SAS C 6.0.  It's is a much nicer
environment (from the pictures) than the old UNIX style environment.  I think
you're going in the right direction.

-Simon


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From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Subject: Re: SAS C 6.0
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:39:12 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Aug26.035753.11425@regina.cs.uregina.ca>, gorrie@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Dennis Gorrie) writes:
|> I phoned up SAS today and found out that SAS C 6.0 isn't expected to
|> ship until the end of September.  The cost of upgrading from V5.10
|> is about $100 u.s.  
|> 

To clarify, SAS/C V6.0 will come back from the duplicator on
Friday, September 11 and begin shipping on Monday, September 14.
It will probably take until the end of September to clear
the back-orders, so the people on the phone are telling callers
to expect it at the end of September.  Many of you will get it
before that.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: font editor
From: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:37:50 +1200
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9

In article <OD.6BadNetOA92-901-231p0_4eb40584@piraya.bad.se>,
	Ola_Engebretsen@f231.n901.z92.badnet.bad.se (Ola Engebretsen) writes:
>> Does anyone know where I can find a font editor?
>
>Take a look on your Extras disk.

That's no use if you're running 2.X..I've seen a 2.0 editor, WBFed(?) some
time ago on an FTP site, check wuarchive in one of the OS20 dirs, you
should find it somewhere..


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From: csc@amiganet.chi.il.us (Chris Clarizio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: AppMenu applications
Date: 31 Aug 92 07:16:28 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <1992Aug29.180844.13754@head-cfa.harvard.edu>,
dj@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Diab Jerius) writes:
>In article <hemmer.01zf@hemmer.adsp.sub.org>
cbmehq!cbmden!hemmer@cbmvax.commodo
>re.com (Franz Hemmer) writes:
>[deletia]
>
>>okay? An make sure you `LoadWB' before you do.
>>
>But! There's the rub! one cannot start ParM in the OS2.0 approved fashion,
>namely in s:user-startup or in WBStartup.  one must wait until after
>LoadWB which means altering s:startup-sequence.  granted, that's not
>too terribly difficult, but the whole point of user-startup was to avoid
>that.  i get around it by backgrounding a job (from user-startup) which
>waits 20 seconds and starts up ParM.  inelegant, granted, but i don't
>have to worry about mucking about with s:startup-sequence.
>
   Why not just write a script to do it, put XIcon as the default tool, and
place it in your WBStartup drawer?

                                                  ---CSC


                                             --- Chris Clarizio
                                                 csc@amiganet.chi.il.us
From: mcramm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Latex to Ascii conversion.
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:08:51 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

> 	Does anybody know of a good way to convert Latex documents to ascii?
> I am looking for a solution on just about any platform.  It can be a Unix
> based solution or MAC, Amiga  or even PC.  Does anyone have any idea how
> to do this??
> 
> thanks.
> 
> ->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
> 	    		Edward J. Zix
>            		InterNet: ezix@ucrengr.ucr.edu

Do you mean that you want to strip the LaTeX commands out of a source document
or just convert processed (.dvi) output into vanilla ASCII ?

If it's the latter, there's a programm called dvi2tty that should be hidden
somewhere in your TeX distribution. If it's the former, you could try looking
at the texspell script (again, somewhere in the distribution) to see how that
strips out the commands before passing the file to spell.

(I'm assuiming you have access to a TeX and LaTeX source distribution
somewhere)
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