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From: hwang@hermes.Berkeley.EDU (Kailan Hwang)
Subject: Re: Chinese in Unix System
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:55:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.091602.3048@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (C Tsai) writes:
=Hello:
=
=   Who knows that whether there is any chinese software packages in Unix
=system or not..... Like ETchinese or some chinese software.... As I know
=that now chinese softwares are only in MSDOS.... What about in UNIX?????
=
=   If have , how I can get it???? 
=
=
=
=Yu.
=20/Aug/1992
=
=c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk


There has a lot of Hanzi programs in ahkcus.org
like,
-r--r--r--  1 root     source      11445 Jun 20  1991 hzview-2.0.tar.Z
view hanzi in the ASC terminal.

-r--r--r--  1 root     source      17258 Jun 21  1991 lunar-2.0.tar.Z
Calculate your birthday in the lunar calendar.

-r--r--r--  1 root     source      21731 Jun 20  1991 xhzview.3-0.shar
View Hanzi on Xwindow, based on Xtollkit and Xlib.

-r--r--r--  1 root     source     419456 Oct 30  1991 cxterm-11.5.1.tar.Z
An Hanzi Xterm.

-r--r--r--  1 root     source      28145 May  8  1991 b2g.tar.Z
Big5 <-> GB code conversion. A must have, if you can't read
Communist's Hanzi(Simplified).

There've a lot programs, not only on Unix platform, including
some other platform ie. PC.. and some HanZi News and documents.

Also you have to have HongKong U. HanZi Font and Beijing Fonts
to be able to utilize above programs.


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From: c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (C Tsai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Chinese in Unix System
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:16:02 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England

Hello:

   Who knows that whether there is any chinese software packages in Unix
system or not..... Like ETchinese or some chinese software.... As I know
that now chinese softwares are only in MSDOS.... What about in UNIX?????

   If have , how I can get it???? 



Yu.
20/Aug/1992

c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk
From: cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang)
Subject: Re: Yes, Let's Not Talk about History (Was: Re: BANANAS)
Reply-To: cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:52:14 GMT

yu@chang.asd.sgi.com (Yu Chang) writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.154312.21920@news.columbia.edu>,
>cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang) writes:
>
>I felt obligated to say something to Charles sice he seems to felt
>being accused spreading hatred. No, I do not thinks so and I do not
>think Minghsun meant it either.

Yes, after reading your other articles, I now see why you said what
you said.  Hey, don't be controlled by your emotions!  :-)

>|> Is "speaking Taiwanese" still forbidden in school? [....]
>
>No.
>I do not remember it being seriously enforced after a couple years.
>This is very very silly policy and it was gone long ago.

Well, I remember I was fined NT$5 a few times (?) for speaking Taiwanese
in school!  Someone from another class was made to wear a wooden board
around the neck all day saying "I love speaking Mandarin!"  I would
certainly hope that this all got changed.

>I am proud to identify myself as chinese and taiwanese.
>We always say we are from taiwan while in the US.

Good for you, my fellow Kaohsiung'er!  (Btw, which district are you
from?)

-Charles


*** Om Ma-Ni Pad-Me Hung *** | "Hey, Charles, have you been 'waiting' all
============================ |  your life?" -- Thao D. "the creature" Vo
   Charles Wei-Ting Tang     | ===========================================
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: To clarify my point
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 16:17:56 GMT

In article <cyen.713952072@ponder> Jesse writes:

>As what I said, you did not get my point.
>Ya, you said, "But it's a lot worse in Taiwan.  Also, it is a lot better in non-
>metropolitan areas of the United States." It's absolutely right. 
>But did I say it has never happened in Taiwan or it's better in Taiwan?
>What I wanna say is the reason that makes the traffic environment what it is
>now is not because of the people but the RULEs.  Americans are just like 
>Chineses. Besides, did I said we should have blind faith to ourselves?
>I just want to encourage our folks in Taiwan and to remind all my friends
>that Chineses are never worse than Americans. Chineses are very industrious
>and intelligent like you and me.

I have seen a lot of Chinese people driving in the United States.  Believe me,
they generally follow the laws a lot less or try to "sneak around" the
traffic rules.

The Chinese *are* worse at following the rules.  (I will not exclude myself
here.)  If we implement the American system of applying for colleges (as
opposed to having the entry exam), I would bet that there would immediately be
anxious parents trying to bribe the admission offficers.

The Chinese *are* very industrious and intelligent.  However, that is not
relevant here, since we are talking about following rules here.
From: eng20009@nusunix3.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Many ugly Yankees!!
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:56:03 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore

An-Ly Yao <anlyyao@igc.apc.org> writes:
: 
:	[deleted stuff] 
: 
: So in this sense Taiwan is getting pretty strong. Imagine a book like "TAIWAN
: 2000" (Academia Scinica, Taipei 1989). In the PRC, in Korea, the ASEAN coun-
: tries you won't find such a down-to-facts study on environmental problems.
: 
:	[deleted stuff] 
:
: take it easy
: Goetz
: 
: anlyyao@igc.apc.org
: Seoul 1992/08/15, Korea
: 
An ASEAN country like Singapore does not have environmental problems of
the scale faced by Taiwan. This is just to set the record straight :-).

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internet: eng20009@nusunix3.nus.sg
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From: lulu@guinan.ucr.edu (david lu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Many ugly Yankees!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:33:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

In article <1992Aug17.124808.8729@merlin.hgc.edu> sala8864@hgc.edu (gustavo salas) writes:
> 
>Any flamers, please do not get me wrong. I am talking about Americans in 
>general. Not all of them are dumb-ass. As a matter of fact, my boss, who
>happens to be a 100% American, is the smartest human being I have ever met. 

Gee, does your boss read this newsgroup?  :) :) :)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: yewang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yenwen Wang)
Subject: Re: No Taiwanese?!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:09:06 GMT

In article <17AUG92.09051113@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw> u322543@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw writes:
>   In Aug.11, KMT female Legislator, Chow1-Chuan2, said,
>   "Those KMTs who speak Taiwanese are bastard. (Bai4-Lei4)"
>   Oh, I feel so sorry for the hundred thousands of KMTs, who
>   speak Taiwanese as their mother language.
>
>--
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>- Yishao Lai                  -
>= u322543@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw =
>-       :o      wow           -
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

This one is right up there on the hate chart(or should I say,
the stupidity chart) with KMT male Legislator, Huang2 Ju3 Wen2,
who said:
    The WSRs came to Taiwan with bare butts(Guang1 Pee4 Gu3):-(

People in the US commented on the recent resentment toward their
elected Senators and Congressmen: "They simply reflect the quality
of the people who elected them." How true!


Yenwen Wang
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From: c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (C Tsai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Puzzle( Joke... )
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:57:14 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


         =======================
         = New Puzzle ( Joke ) =
         =======================
 

Who knows the below picture that " What the hell is???????????"
===========================================================

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      *           ***              *
      *            *               *
      *            *               *


=============================================================
The Answer is...........................................












Answer is in next page:

===================================================================














Try thinking this answer by yourself, if still no any ideas or any "dirty"
answer...... And read the answer,..... you will have a big "Surprise!!!!"





















============================================================================




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                  ******

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! Surprise!!!!!!
I think I let you have a very dirty and wrong thinking, haven't you??????
Do you like this Answer??????? " Dog!!!! "
Anyway!!!! This is only a Joking!!!!!

Chin-Yu TSAI
c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: txc6266@ultb.isc.rit.edu (T.X. Cheng )
Subject: Re: A bit more detailed about the China-South Korea normalization
Originator: txc6266@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:10:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.212553.27330@beaver.cs.washington.edu> chou@cs.washington.edu (Pai Hsiang Chou) writes:
>
>What kind of racist statement is this?
>You have a bad car buying experience, but that is
>no reason to label Koreans as a lousy people.
>

I didn't have a bad car buying experience.  Sorry for that I didn't describe
the reason why I said so clearly.  That's because that Taiwan signed a lot of 
Morden UnEven Agreement with S.Korea and S.Korea did get a lot of economical 
benefits from Taiwan.  I coincide that's a racist statement but not for no
reason.
From: ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: No Taiwanese?!
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:54:28 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Aug17.041105.5586@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, tsai@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Kuo-Yeang Tsai) writes:
> 
> She got a PhD in education(?) and was the one who strongly advocated the policy
> that military officers should continue to keep their presence on campuses of
> high schools and colleges.
> 
> I feel sorry for her and KMT.

	** Forget her.

	   But tell me: what's wrong to have some military training
	   in high school?
From: c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (C Tsai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: ROC-terminated-South Korea
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:40:49 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England

Today I read about Taiwan-terminated-Korea news from British TV,.....
I find that some Taiwanese are very very very very angry.....fucking
Korea behavior and stop all of airline with Taiwan and Korea........

   In fact, when I heard this news, I am not surprise that Taiwan and
Korea terminated all of the diplomatic...... So when I heard this news
, I haven't no feeling about it.   It is quite silly and stupid.....

   In fact, we have been said Korea are our best friend before.....
Do you think Korea is our best friends?????? I think it is 1992 best Jokes,
because we know that Korea always is our economy enemy.... Why we want to
said Korea is our friends....  In international trade.... Taiwan and 
Korea always competed each other......  Taiwan now win Korea about internationaltrade in the world ( Taiwan money reserve is
Number 1. in the world) And about Korea only has car quite famouse in the
world....... 

   Now we told about the mainland China.... From Mainland China began to 
Economic reform..... So many Taiwan companies or factories move to Mainland
China..... We know that Taiwan companies want to use Mainland China cheaper
labors......etc.   But we think about Korea.......  Korea also want to use
Mainland China cheaper labors...or something else....  In fact we can stop
all of trade with Korea....but you know that it is nothing..... because
Taiwan and Korea seldom trade each other..... Two countries aims USA trade,
so who can made a cheaper products and who can win????  

   To sum up, I don't think Korea is our friend.....( I mean Korea government
and Korea companies, not Korea people.... ), Korea always is our economy
enemy......


Don't angry about Taiwan-terminated-Korea..... We should happy......said that
From now on, when we see Korea people, we don't need to say "We are Friends"
Because Korea always still our enemy.......... Don't lie ourselves.......

Chin-Yu TSAI
c_tsai@csd.brispoly.ac.uk
From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: What is BSR and WSR??
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:18:50 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: IBM Austin Advanced Workstation Division
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Aug14.040829.1938@oskgate0.mei.co.jp>, claude@oskgate0.mei.co.jp (CLAUDE Huss) writes:
> Hi Fellows!
> 
> 	Someone could explain to me what BSR and WSR stand for?
> 
> 	Any help would be very appreciated.
> 

I am obliged. 

Here it goes:

BSR: BEN3 SEN3 LEN2: Native Taiwanese.
WER: WAI3 SEN3 LEN2: Mainlander or descendants from China after 1949.

This dichotomy was caused by an item marked on an ROC nationals' ID or Members
of House Registry document.

> 
> --
> Claude Huss
> Network Soft. Design , Tokyo Research Labs, Matsushita E.W.,Ltd.
> Tokyo,Japan      
> "Alien Registration Card: Don't leave home without it...."
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: hobond@brahms.udel.edu (hobond@brahms.udel.edu)
Subject: Info requested to go to Taiwan
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:29:32 GMT


Hello netters,
I am getting my US passport soon and wants to go to Taiwan to visit
my grandfather.  What do I have to do?  I don't know who or where to contact
for info. on getting permition to go to Taiwan.  I live in Delaware a
very
small state, is there an agency here for getting info or do I have
to write to Washington DC or Philadelphia for info?  Any help would
be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
hobond@brahms.udel.edu

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From: cla04@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Heads and Stamps
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:06:04 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

I've just been sending out some letters and it struck me that the
Queen's head on commemorative stamps is still the same as it was 20
years ago, i.e. two portraits behind the current coins. Even diminutive
stamps are one portrait behind. Any one suggestions as to why?

Andy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt)
Subject: Re: Americanising of the UK
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:38:21 GMT

sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01) writes:
: Yeah, like when Pop WILL Eat Itself had to change the "Big Mac, fries to go"
: line in Def Con One to "Big shake, fries to go". Sounded bloody stupid!
(It takes a whole team to post that?)

On similar, but different, lines, Tom Robinson had to change the line "Have
another cigarette" to "Avocado vinaigraitte", in a song whose title escapes
me, in order to have the video shown during hours when children might have
been watching.

----
Andrew
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: royal family
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:31:15 GMT

>In article <1992Aug13.895.15961@dosgate> "richard tanner" <richard.tanner@canrem.com> writes:
>>2. The concept of a politician being commander in chief of the armed
>>forces is highly dangerous. An ex-head of the CIA presently controls the
>>American military machine. Having a constitutional monarch as commander in
>>chief may not mean that s/he DOES anything in that regard. It's just a
>>heck of a lot safer.

	O.K. I'll bite:

1.      Why is putting the military under civilian control dangerous?
	Would you rather they wandered about invading countries to
	alleviate the boredom?

2.      Why is the former DCI (who was only a caretaker put in to calm
	things down) any more dangerous than:

	Jimmy Carter, former commander of a missile sub who knew that there
	was no mechanical interlock to stop firing after he sent out the
	order to fire?

	Eisenhower, former SACEUR, had a lot of friends in high places in
	the Pentagon and a few other places?

	Alec Chambers
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 11:06:15 CDT
From: Cole Kendall <U48073@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: New World Beers (ROLLING ROCK)
 <1992Aug13.110207.29401@cs.hw.ac.uk>

In article <1992Aug13.110207.29401@cs.hw.ac.uk>, neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil
Postlethwaite) says:
>
>In article <92221.025727DFE100@psuvm.psu.edu> DFE100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>
>>Rolling Rock is indeed an American beer.  It's hard to believe that you
>>can get it in Britain because it is not really well known here in the States
>>--except on the east coast.
>
>How much relatively to Bud or Miller does it cost.
>
>There was a pile in Safeways (Corstorphine, Edinburgh) and I considered
>getting a 4 bottle case but baulked at the price it was.
>
>Neil

I have not bought any of the "Green Death"(*) recently, but in my
college days (in Pennsylvania) Rolling Rock was one of the
cheaper beers around.  It was similarly priced to Miller or
Bud, less than Michelob.

Cole Kendall

(*) so named due to bottle color and intensity of hangover induced
by overconsumption.
From: colin@cs.uq.oz.au (Colin Millerchip)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Dum dee dum...
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:35:30 GMT
Reply-To: colin@cs.uq.oz.au

Any news? Withdrawal symptoms are setting in.

C.

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|colin@cs.uq.oz.au          |                                          |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: BBC address
From: terr05@v9.vitro.com
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:26:54 -0500
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Nntp-Posting-User: terr05

Hello,
	I am looking for the address of the BBC. I want to get tapes on accents
of the British Isles and a Punch and Judy show. I would like to knoe if there
is a catalog on the net. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
							Jim
From: ses@cmns-sun.think.com (Simon Edward Spero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: royal family
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:02:36
Organization: What's your clearance, citizen?
Distribution: soc
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmns-sun.think.com
In-reply-to: "richard tanner"'s message of 20 Aug 92 23:48:28 EST


Would it be inappropriate to claim that the Royal family is suffering from
a severe outbreak of foot-in-mouth disease? And will 'recieving financial 
advice' replace 'Ugandan discussions' as the pastime of choice?

Simon
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From: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:36:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Manifesto: New Hope for Unitied Britonnic Nations (DSY)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british


   Maybe I'm taking too many of the pain killers but I could have sworn
 I've seen this before. But this isn't my point...

   I think it's time to unravel the mystery of David Yadallee. Is he real?
 Why are his posts always written in a strange form of pigeon English that 
 only a computer could generate? Why are all his postings from different 
 accounts? Why does he think Dr. Who is an important part of the poilitcal
 process in the UK? Why is he the only foaming royalist under the age of
 105? Why, when I visited Edmonton, Alberta recently didn't I hear
 strange stories from the "kids" on the "street" about this crazed 
 Brit with a Union Jack the size of Yorkshire tatooed onto his
 forehead?

	The people of Britain shoudl be told!

	arf