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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:44:01 -0600
From:         MICHAEL_DUNIGAN <ROSSVLB@UMDSCXA.BITNET>
Subject: RE: CompuServe/Internet Mail

> To send to a Compuserve mailbox from Internet use the following:
>
>    NNNNN.NNNN%compuserve.com@ihb.compuserve.com
>

Our host does only needs NNNNN.NNNN@compuserve.com

>
> To mail from Compuserve to the Internet use the following:
>
> >INTERNET yourname@host.place.number.type
>
> Note: you must put 'INTERNET' all in caps.
>

I don't have my documentation here, but I think the prefix on the CI$ side
includes a ':' after the word INTERNET (and I may be wrong, but the help file
on in Compuserve Mail with tell you).

> I think you can receive the WIN3-L mail at Compuserve by sending your
> SUBSCRIBE message from compuserve.

Not sure about this, as my work mail system has a common area for things like
WIN3-L, and I don't need the info duplicated in my home CI$ account.  I have
had problems getting to LISTSERVERs on BITNET because I could not remember the
INTERNET gateway node to BITNET.

>
> REMEMBER Compu$erve charges a $.15 surcharge fro each message sent to
> the INTERNET or READ (not received only read) from the INTERNET.

The surcharge is only assesed if you are using one of the fixed monthly price
payment options (created to compete with Prodigy).  I would recommend that if
you are going to spend the money to use CI$, just use the standard pricing.
The main thing that you get with the fixed pricing is eMail and access to the
Electonic Mall.  Most of the CI$ forums and things like an eMail message sent
to the Internet cost extra.  (I believe that messages sent to MCI Mail have a
surcharge no matter how you send them.)
From: KHINDRIA@HSCVAX.CSU.MCMASTER.CA (Vivek Khindria HSC-2D2 x2439 CSU)
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Are you sure that your computer startup hasn't changed?
Boot up off a dos diskette and check your startup files
(config.sys and autoexec.bat) for any unusual entries.

If that still dosen't show anything, try checking to see if
all of the programs and drivers used in the startup files
matches the original copies.

Vivek Khindria
McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Subject: HEAP size
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:44:17 GMT
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Ok guys I don't particularly like Microsoft either, but lets be fair.
The 64k limit is a pointer size limitation and refers ONLY to the LOCAL
heap.  When you need a small local heap you use it and conserve a great
deal of space because your pointers aren't wasting it by being 32 or 64
instead of 16 bits.  I know handles are used but the implementation for
windows eventually uses pointers.  If you need more space use the
GLOBAL memory.  If you don't like locking and unlocking blocks, write
some simple macros that resemble traditional C memory functions.
If you're using the standrd C mem allocation routines now, you are in
fact using macros in windows.h that implement local controls anyway.
Besides, because of that "oh so horrible" outdated processor,
operations within the 64k segments are very efficient.
See Petzold's Memory management chapter.

-Birk
 vonBirk MUltimedia 1992
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From:         "Pawel T. Jochym" <ptj@PKPF.IF.UJ.EDU.PL>
Subject:      Windows memory access (summary)

Q:
>
> How to access memory buffer located at 0xD000 (ex. frame buffer,
> network adaptor etc.) in Windows protected mode using BC++ 3.0 ?
>

Blake from Microsoft has responded to me:

>From: blakeco@microsoft.COM
....
>
>extern WORD _D000H;
>LPSTR lpFrameBuf = MAKELP((near *)&D000H,0);
>
>and add the following to your .DEF file:
>
>IMPORTS
>    _D000H = KERNEL.__D000H
>

I supose it works for MS dev. kit but for Borland it is:

------------------(in large modell)

extern WORD _D000H;
LPSTR lpFrameBuf=(char *)MAKELONG(0,&_D000H);

/*
 lpFrameBuf = valid far pointer to the buffer
*/

------------------
 (same in .DEF)

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Bin,

     Check out KEA Systems' KEAterm 340 for Windows.  It claims full
VT340/420 terminal emulation, ReGIS, Tektronix & sixel graphics,
etc...

     They can be reached at 1-800-663-8702.

Regards,

Brian W. Harriger
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:24:44 CST
From:         THE GAR <GLWARNER@SAMFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Unable to Ctrl-Alt-Del

Curious things began to happen to me shortly after getting a new
ALR computer with Windows 3.1...I am not a frequent windows user,
so I can not positively tie this to windows.  I will describe the
symptom, and would appreciate anyone who has experienced something
similar letting me know.

When I got my new ALR, I installed Word Perfect 5.1 for DOS shortly
afterwords.  I went in and got everything set the way I wanted it.
The next day when I rebooted my computer, WP was NOT THERE!  I reinstalled
and everything went great.  On three or four other occasions however
I experienced something similar.  MOST of the time I lost files after
creating a new file, and then attempting to do a soft reboot.  For some
reason Ctrl-Alt-Del would not respond.  When I hard rebooted and came
back, my files were not there!

The ALR was a temporary machine...I used it for a couple months while
waiting on my new Compaq Prolinea 4/33, which I set up today.  I was
messing around with the Config.sys just now, and went to soft boot to
pick up my changes.  When I tried, it would not accept the Ctrl-Alt-Del!
When I went back in after a hard reboot, my changes to my Config.sys were
not there, and a file that I had created just before that edit was also
gone!  It seemed to happen more often on my ALR on days when I had been
using Windows.  I had never had this happen on a similarly configured
ALR using Windows 3.0...Only 3.1.

HELP!!! I am at a state where I am paranoid to do anything on my machine,
because even when I save things correctly, the changes may be gone!


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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:49:39 PST
From:         "(Vance M. Gloster)" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      Windows 32?
              22 Nov 1992 04:25:45 GMT
              <9211220507.AA29652@fourier.inference.com>

      A quick question about windows 3.2. I was in the bookstore today and saw a
  book set that was titled as a programmers guide to windows 32 (pre-release).
 Is
  this the consumer level version of windowsNT that is due to be released? (I
  assume that since they were referring to the primary revision in 3.2 being 32
  bit dataprocessing, it must be windowsNT) Is that what this is? Or is win32
  something different? Also, when is the regular release due? Thanks!

Win32 is an API that has nothing to do with Windows 3.2.  This is the
native API for Windows NT.  There is a DLL that allows a Win32 program
to run under Windows 3.1 (but not Windows 3.0) called WIN32S.DLL.  It
does not support every single Win32 API call, but it does support all
of the graphics ones.  The ones it does not support relate to features
of NT (like security, multithreading, etc.) that Windows 3.1 does not
support.  Right now you can only develop Win32 applications using NT.

-Vance Gloster
 gloster@inference.com
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:53:14 EST
From:         George Keith <ST202064@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Compuserve

On this topic, is there any way to access Compuserve from Internet?

--George
st202064@brownvm
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:28:46 EST
Reply-To:     ptj@pkpf.if.uj.edu.pl
From:         "Pawel T. Jochym" <ptj@PKPF.IF.UJ.EDU.PL>
Subject:      Windows memory access (summary)

Q:
>
> How to access memory buffer located at 0xD000 (ex. frame buffer,
> network adaptor etc.) in Windows protected mode using BC++ 3.0 ?
>

Blake from Microsoft has responded to me:

>From: blakeco@microsoft.COM
....
>
>extern WORD _D000H;
>LPSTR lpFrameBuf = MAKELP((near *)&D000H,0);
>
>and add the following to your .DEF file:
>
>IMPORTS
>    _D000H = KERNEL.__D000H
>

I supose it works for MS dev. kit but for Borland it is:

------------------(in large modell)

extern WORD _D000H;
LPSTR lpFrameBuf=(char *)MAKELONG(0,&_D000H);

/*
 lpFrameBuf = valid far pointer to the buffer
*/

------------------
 (same in .DEF)

--
                                      Pawel T. Jochym

----------------------------------------
  e-mail: ptj@pkpf.if.uj.edu.pl
          jochym@if.uj.edu.pl

  s-mail: os. Gorali 1/1
          31-959 Krakow
          Poland
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 11:34:00 PDT
From:         BARKER@GONZAGA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: The Next Version of Windows for DOS

From: Mike Lieberman <cwmliebe@ANTELOPE.WCC.EDU>

On Sun, 15 Nov 1992 Mike Lieberman wrote:

>Don, Microsoft says a lot of things to keep people from jumping ship to
>things like OS/2.  They have not been known for complete candor when it
>comes to product positioning and capabilities in the past, nor are they
>being frank now.  Say what you will about this 'happy family', what we're
>about to witness is children running away from home and a broken marriage.
>32-bit multi-threading is either going to blow the 16 bit stuff out of the
>water or die on the vine.  It has no way to co-exist.  To buy MS's
>argument you would have to believe that the only stuff that was going to
>be written for the 32-bit code would be server software and even they
>aren't cute enough to suggest that.

I would disagree.  DOS apps and Windows apps now co-exist in Win 3.1 for
DOS.  I realize these programs are all 16-bit but the analogy holds
because both categories of software are as vastly different as 16 and 32 bit
programs and programming.

>Yes and that's why there will be two flavors of NT, one for servers and
>one for workstations, i.e. the rest of us.  And that's because Win 3.1
>can't run this code.

I have never heard any rumor or hint from any Microsoft source (and I have
a friend on the Windows development team) to indicate there will be two
flavors of NT.  Where did you come by this info?

>Based on early indications I just about bet you'll see the Win 3.1
>interface migrate to look like the WFW interface. There's no reason not to
>do so and every reason to keep it standard.  Porting between code sets is
>easier.  Just as the FM in 3.0 was so bad that MS shipped out a early
>version of the 3.1 FM that showed up on BBS'es a year before Win 3.1
>shipped, the 3.1 FM still needs work.  The WFW version makes sense in
>resolving some of that.  The PrintManager will be modified so that printer
>installation, porting, network connection, and options will be in the same
>code as the spooling functions.

>The Program Manager will likely look much the same as it does now.

What kind of work (beyond a button bar) do you think FM needs --that is
for the average user (excluding stuff like a better editor for
programmers)?

Don Barker
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:34:36 -0500
From:         BENNY GALLIHER <IS493H07@WCUVAX1.BITNET>

Does anyone know anything about the cd-roms that Microsoft is selling for
developers for 69.00 without doc's and 399.00 with doc's?

Thanks,

Benny
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:51:40 -0600
From:         Vijaykumar Bollapragada <bollap@BIT.CSC.LSU.EDU>
Subject:      File Corrupt, Please Help!!!!!

I am posting this for a friend in a desperate situation, Please help

The problem is as follows:
He has written his dissertation on a wordperfect 5.1 on a 3.5" disk, and he
has finished about 43k of writing.  But, now when he retrieves the file in
wordperfect only 27k is retrieved (upto page 18) and then says that sector
not found.

We have tried the following things to fix the problem:

The File Allocation table (FAT) has got corrupt so we ran chkdsk to see if
we can get the lost data.  Chkdsk reports 505 lost allocation units found in
103 chains.
When the /f option is used to convert lost chains to files and the CHK files
created do not contain the lost data in a very friendly format, 103 chk files
cannot be pulled into wordperfect as WP reports 'Incompatible File Format'

I have also tried NORTON DISK DOCTOR to fix the file but again it has the
same problem of CHKDSK.

Is there any way to reorganize the FAT and get back the entire file.

Here are some more things which might help:

- In the directory listing filesize shown is 43k

-
- When file is copied to hard drive from diskette only 27k is copied.

- When file is retrieved in WP only 27k is retrieved.

- This file has got cross-linked with some other files on the same diskette.

One more thing i tried to retrive the CHK files (created by CHKDSK) into
WP is to edit the header of the CHK file so that it is WP compatible, but in
that case it does retrieve the file but when you scroll through it it hangs up a
   fter some time.

Can anyone give me the WP file header format ?

Any help is greatly appreciated.
(MY friend does not have a backup so this is a crisis situation)
Thanks in Advance

Vijay Bollapragada
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:18:36 CET
From:         Joern-Morten Innselset <VEI92001@NOBIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: No Windows NT for us...
              18 Nov 1992 09:24:51 PST from <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:24:51 PST Vance M. Gloster said:
>..............  I also feel that it is valid for people who do not
>have access to a product to ASK about the experience of others, but
>not for them to spread unfounded rumors.
>

 Pardon me for not following your train of thought, but exactly what
'rumors' are you referring to?

  Morten Innselset
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:33:16 -0700
From:         STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Group Level Security

Has anyone used WinLogin yet?  It's a supplemental program and isn't shipped wit
   h WGFW... (last time I looked)...
From: TUINSTDW@SNYPOTVA.BITNET
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Subject: Re: Equation Editor
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:45:00 GMT
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>  My question is that when I am inputing like a a page of equations using
> equation editor, I am prompted with the message, equation editor's memory is
> running low, please simplify my equation.  What is going on?

First try doing a "save as", and make sure the "Fast Save" option is
unchecked (or that "Normal" is selected -- I don't have it in front of
me right now).  That allows W4W to reclaim "scratch" memory.  You might
also try closing any other applications you have running in other windows
(or as icons).

These are the basic measures to take when getting "low on memory" errors.
HTH!

  --dwight tuinstra      tuinstdw@snypotva.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:53:00 MET
From:         "Isaac van den Berg,IC/BIV,
              RU Leiden 071-(27)3188" <VDBERG@RULBUR.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
Subject:      Re: ATM FOnts and Windows

I assume that with ATM you mean (adobe) Type I postscript fonts.
The answer is Yes: windows does accept Type I fonts, but you should not try
to install them by hand.
Use allways windows 3.1 and install Adobe Type Manager version 2. The fonts
will show up in de ATM control panel. You will get screen fonts and be able
to use the fonts on non-postscriptprinters.
There is a fine article in lastmonth's PC Magazine (nr 18) around this
topic.

Isaac van den Berg
Leiden University, The Netherlands
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From: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Subject: Re:      Re: MS Access
Reply-To: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:25:50 GMT

My thoughts are that the market is segmented
into at least three groups: the Xbase, the interfaces
to SQL servers, and others.  Presumably FoxBase appeals
to the Xbase group while Access is for the rest of
the world.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:30:27 ITA
From:         Ibrahim Khachab <IBRAHIM@IVRUNIV.BITNET>
Subject:      Microsoft internet mail address needed.

Hi all,

I posted last week my problem about fonts that are in the ATM windows and are i
nstalled but can't be used from within any application (they are not in the fon
t list). I have version 3.1 of windows with arabic support.
Is there any internet address of Microsoft where to send help request?

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:24:51 PST
From:         "(Vance M. Gloster)" <gloster@INFERENCE.COM>
Subject:      No Windows NT for us...
              18 Nov 1992 14:36:42 CET
              <9211181340.AA19861@fourier.inference.com>

  What does 'right now it is working' (about Win NT) imply ?
  Is the running of your evaluation copy of Win NT only rewarded with short
  moments of success, or is it a reliable system that runs steadily ?

  BTW: I can't believe all of you guys criticising any negative comments on
       Windows NT. After all, it's the critics that keep Microsoft at the edge.

The current NT beta works well.  It is much more solid than many
commercial releases I have used.  It is not yet trouble-free with all
the different kinds of hardware, and we have got it to crash
occasionally, but it seems more solid in many ways than Windows 3.1
already.

I have no qualms about people criticizing Microsoft.  Their C compiler
was never very good until Borland started competing with them.  What I
object to is unfounded assertions by people who do not have the
product and have no way of knowing whether their statements are true
or not.  I am in favor of legitimate criticisms of Microsoft, and
there certainly are enough of these than can be made without inventing
spurious ones.  I also feel that it is valid for people who do not
have access to a product to ASK about the experience of others, but
not for them to spread unfounded rumors.

-Vance Gloster
 gloster@inference.com
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:44:39 EDT
From:         Michael Kreyche <MKREYCHE@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      DoubleDensity and Beckertools
              16 Nov 1992 16:40:53 GMT from <tabitha@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL>

I signed up on the list recently and noticed the discussion on stacker,
superstore, and xtra drive.  Does anyone have experience with
DoubleDensity?  Our bookstore has it bundled with Beckertools for $50
which seems too good to be true.  I've found no info on it at all
except product announcements (I looked in Computer Select).

I'd also be interested in comments on the Beckertools utilities
--the only thing I've found is a brief recent review (September)
in PC Magazine
(where the verdict was lukewarm).  Specifically, I am wondering
if you have to use their substitute for the Program Manager,
or can you pick and choose the tools you want and run them under
the Program Manager?  I'm most interested in the backup utility
and the hex editor.

Thanks!

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Kent State University Libraries and Media Services      Kent, Ohio 44242
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:52:02 GMT
From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: winqvt 3.0

Willy,

We have a copy of the 2.85 release of the QVTNet NFS version.  It is not being
distributed as shareware.  You need to contact QPC Software and order a copy
for $40 to get it.  It seems to work fairly well, but it is slower than the
regular version.  It will only work with PC-NFS 4.0.

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