HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: ..working with 1.63 (modified)
Keywords: 1.63, editor, importing-text, mail
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 19:05:08 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

carlos@infoserv.com (Carlos Dominguez) writes:

-> .. I'm using a modified version of 1.63, and am generally pleased
-> with the results but I have a few questions..

I've used that version of waffle myself (I started out with InfoServe
as my host.)

-> a) How can I get waffle to import text in a followup post or email
->    message.. (supposed to but doesn't)

Bug in Infoserve's version of waffle

-> b) Can I get another Mail reader to coexist with this version of
->    waffle?
-> 
-> c) Can I get another News reader to coexist with waffle and my
->    news feed?

Check on Halcyon in the ~/pub/waffle/1.64 directory for some old
utilities.  There may be a mail and/or newsreader that will work with
the older versions of waffle.

-> I would love to run PC versions of TIN or ELM, but I can't seem to
-> get any information if it's even possible..

Don't know about tin, but PCELM 3.01 will run (with help) with 1.65
of waffle.

My recommendation is to upgrade to 1.65 of waffle.  The infoserve
version is great to get started (saved me some setup grief), but is
very limited.

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From: phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Latest ISO 8859-1 Patch for Waffle available
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 02:38:36 EDT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:
>Jonathan Herr <valnet!herrj@news.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>
>> kosta@blues.kk.sub.org (Kosta Kostis) writes:
>> 
>> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A GRAVE      : 
>> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A ACUTE      : 
>> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A CIRCUMFLEX : 
>> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A TILDE      : 
>> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A DIARESIS   : 
>> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER A RING       : 
>> #         LATIN SMALL LETTER N TILDE      : 
>> # 
>> #         COPYRIGHT SIGN                  : 
>> 

Very strange...  I'm getting this posting correctly, i.e. the copyright looks
like a c with a circle around it...  But I remember that the ORIGINAL posting
at my site didn't come in through correctly.

I'm still on 1.64 using a (homegrown) WINDOWS based reader, so my code page
is the default one (WINDOWS OEM charset), and there is no 'charset' option
in waffle.

Anybody explain?
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO SPEED
From: Jochen Erwied <mack@joker.wes.open.de>
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 09:27:38 CET
Organization: Creative Chaos Computing - Mailbox: +49-281-52975 (22.00-08.00)

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:

> dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber) writes:
> 
> Fer crissake! Read the bloody standards! If you are using v42bis, you
> are automatically using MNP5, as it is the fallback standard.
> 
> V42bis is a COMPRESSION standard which incorporates MNP5 and V42

According to US Robotics, V42bis is a specific compression scheme, which
incorporates V42 and MNP _error correction_, but not MNP 5 _data compression_

(Taken from US Robotics Courier High Speed Manual, Page G-12)

> V42    is an error correction standard which incorporates MNP2,3 and 4

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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico speed, bad headers
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:56:07 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:

]...[
  
> I now have 934cps during transfer instead of 500cps. V42 is on and
> so is MNP, flow control is rts/cts

Interesting.  Tell us about your computer.

I suspect one flaw in your transfer rates.  Since you have cut DTE speed
from 19.2 to 9.6, one could assume that your 934 figure is more like
467.

s

-- 
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From: stu@valinor.mythical.com (Stu Labovitz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Kermit
Keywords: Kermit, DOS, Waffle 1.65
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 21:57:47 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: (What? Organized??) - Mythical Computer Systems

pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Divine) writes:

> Can someone tell me if it is possible to set up Kermit as a protocol for
> DOS?  How would I go about doing this?

If you have MS-DOS Kermit 3.12 (or even 3.11) available on your system (I
have it in c:\util for the following example), then you could use
something like the following:

In /waffle/extern/_send. add the following:

K   /command="C:\util\msKERMIT set port %d, set file type binary, Send %i"

Similarly, in /waffle/extern/_receive. add the following:

K   /command="C:\util\MSKERMIT set port %d, set file type binary, Receive %i"

These two lines will define a "Kmodem" (really Kermit) in addition to the
Xmodem, Ymodem, and Zmodem examples given in the Waffle docs.  [NOTE AND
DISCLAIMER:  This works (pretty well and most of the time) for my site.
It is not guaranteed to be the most elegant solution nor to work on any
other site.  As always, read the docs and decide for yourself!]

   Stuart L Labovitz                    Internet:  stu@valinor.mythical.com
    (insert standard disclaimer here)       UUCP:   uunet!valinor!stu

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      and it holds the universe together.      --- Carl Zwanzig
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From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:45:58 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us (N. Richard Caldwell) writes:

> What would the advantage of that be?  RNEWS may be an even worse
> format for offline message batches than QWK.  RNEWS doesn't allow
> for the difference between mail and news and doesn't provide any of
> the basic facilities for user interaction with the BBS that QWK does
> (news, bulletins, new files, board id, welcome, goodbye, subscribe, 
> unsubscribe).  Add to that the fact that there are currently no
> true offline RNEWS readers and there will never be as many as there
> are QWK readers.  No offense, but it sounds like you're talking about 
> a big effort to reinvent the wheel for no good reason.  

I agree.  .QWK type readers are feature rich.  Some of them have
database-like capabilities to let you store and categorize your messages.

Rnews is very primitive by comparison.


---  /|ugust /|bolins  --------------[ abolins%visavis@nyongwa.cam.org ]---
From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO SPEED
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 15 Dec 92  09:34:58

On <Dec 14 09:34> Kennelmeister writes:

 K> Why on Earth would you want to disable the fallback standard?
 K> Surely when it comes to compression, you either want the best you can
 K> do, or have none at all.

Because sending data that's already compressed takes longer with MNP5
compression.
From: carlos@carlos
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Helldiver is awesome!
Summary: This is an awesome piece of software!
Keywords: Helldiver,MS-Windows,waffle,reader
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:05:30 -0500
Reply-To: carlos@infoserv.com
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Dominguez UseNet, Brooklyn NY, USA

..The subject says it all. I am now using HELLDIVER as my Waffle
news/mail replacement and it works! Even with Waffle 1.63.
 
Any one who want's a change of pace, and is running WINDOWS 3.1 and
waffle 1.63-1.65 should try it!
 
It's available from halcyon.com, (ftp or mail-ftp) and it's simple
to configure.

E-Mail welcomed! ( Since this is my first posting using HellDiver
I would appreciate replies to see if this got out)
 
Flames are not!

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From: cutter@gloster.via.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem Init with Hayes V-Series ULTRA Smartmodem 9600
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 08:52:56 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Gordian Knot, Gloster,GA

 lance@Circle.Raleigh.NC.US (Lance A. Brown) writes:

 > Also, despite having E0 in the modem set up, Waffle 1.65 cries about having
 > echo turned on.

I thought I was the only one. I get that with an ATI etc96 and I have put E0
every place I see any modem strings, but it always says that. Ironincly,
I never seem to get any doubled characters.


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From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle User Complaints
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 17:21:30 EST
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

> ...
> But I don't loose any sleep over it - it just means that the people who
> stick around are of a much higher caliber and intelligent to boot.  The
> Smurfs can go play on some kiddie board...
> 

My sentiments exactly.  There are well over 100 BBSes in my local
calling area - there's something for everyone, and I don't feel
too guilty about not handholding the users who can't cope with
Waffle.

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: Modem Init with Hayes V-Series ULTRA Smartmodem 9600
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:05:23 GMT

[Someone writes; attributions lost]
> Also, despite having E0 in the modem set up, Waffle 1.65 cries about havin
> echo turned on.

This happens if echo was turned on *before* Waffle was started.  Do ATE0&W
and Waffle will probably stop complaining.

Or put E1 in your modem setup.

  Bill
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Announce: procc-03 on halcyon; proccess Control: messages
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:03:21 MST
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.97

I just threw it in halcyon.com:/pub/incoming/procc-03.zip a few hours ago.

it handles cancel, newgroup (moderated and not), and rmgroup messages that
have passed through here recently.  it attempts to find the description
from the text of the message for newgroups, and can add this to your
waffle/system/{forum set} and waffle/words/{forum set} files.  it will take
care of the /mod flag on moderated groups.  it will comment-out the lines
in waffle/system/{forum set} to prevent random users from reading the brand
new alt.* group and getting offended.  it also protects them with /read=9
and /post=9 (my guess is more configuration would be helpful here)

it also has a verbose-but-actionless mode so you can make sure it's not
about to wipe out your news spool.

packaged with source in tpascal 4
-- 
Russell Schulz  russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca  ersys!rschulz  Shad 86c
From: abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org [Validated] (August Abolins)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: sysman... NOT!
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:56:56 GMT
Organization: Vis-a-Vis Communications [Ontario+Quebec]

fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> In article <Fs7mVB1w165w@visavis.uucp> abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (
> |Anyways... most of the upgrade process went ok except SYSMAN.  It seems
> |that SYSMAN is hardcoded to look for C:\WAFFLE\ADMIN !!!!!
> 
> Did you follow the directions in UPDATE.DOC?  Step 2 says that you must be
> in your ADMIN directory to perform the indexing.

Thankyou.  That was the problem.  I just tried it and it worked.  I must
have been in the SYSTEM directory.

> |[3] Is Waffle smart enough to look for INDEX in my D:\WAFFLE\ADMIN?
> 
> In fact, Waffle is not stupid enough to look for it anywhere else.

Good to know.  BTW, how did "Waffle" get such a name?  It isn't very
flattering.


---  August Abolins  --------------[ abolins%visavis@nyongwa.cam.org ]---
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Another Waffle bug?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 21:11:57 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> I've got most of my Waffle stuff on my c: drive, and my news spool and
> user directories on my d: drive.  So, I'm logged in, and the current
> working directory is c:/waffle/admin.  I execute "dir d:/maps" and the
> current working directory is changed to d:/maps.  Is that proper behaviour?
> I'd suggest not.

I have the same setup, Waffle on c:, news spool and user directories
on d:. I did this command sequence :

home
dir d:\spool
dir

The final 'dir' listed the contents of my user directory.


--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: From NOBODY
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:35:23 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

> > What I can't figure is why anyone's still using 1.64...
> 
> I'll tell you why...  The update instructions are lousy.

When I updated, I renamed my waffle directory to waf164 and then
let the unzip go on 1.65. I had to manually go through the static
file and add in some things, and take some things out. No biggie.

The biggest change was to the uucp stuff, and that wasn't a very
traumatic changeover. Finally, I passed a COPY of my old password
file to the conversion utility, and was running.

About all those customized files --menus, help, etc ... I just
moved them into the new (different) directories. They still 
work just fine. Even the externs.

Any upgrade requires a little common sense. If there is the 
smallest possibility that you're going to overwrite files, and
in this case a listing of the zipfile would demonstrate that,
then one needs to take precautions.

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
From: jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US  (Dazed N. Confused)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: rejected??????
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:02:57 PST
Organization: Vector Zero

fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> |Also... what is "splash" after login?
> 
> If this flag is set, the file from /waffle/text with the same name as the use
> logging in will be displayed after the person enters their password.

     New idea?  Why not use that for newusers.  Copy "splash.txt" to the
user's name ala newuser.bat.  In order for the new user to *get rid*
of the "annoying" splash file, he has to read to the end in order to
find the extern command to delete his splash file.


--Jon (gotta love waffle)

   jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US                     Life is like a kiwi.

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Perl script to get time from Waffle Message-ID
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:13:57 GMT

Here's a little goodie that I just came up with.  I saw some messages
posted from Waffle sites on the UUNET "Dropped postings" list, and wanted
to see when they were posted, since I didn't want to warn someone about
something that happened 2 weeks ago.  So, I wrote this perl script to get
dates from Message-ID's.

It'll be off by a few hours, because of timezone differences, but it'll
give you a good idea of about when it was posted.  (Waffle uses the
local time value for Message-ID's, and there's no way to recover the
timezone.)

Examples:
(frith)95 /home/curly/fenner % unmsgid o1mmVB1w164w@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us
Message o1mmVB1w164w@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us: Waffle 1.64, around Fri Dec 11 11:44:23 EST 1992
(frith)96 /home/curly/fenner % unmsgid cT5eVB1w165w@cyberden.uucp
Message cT5eVB1w165w@cyberden.uucp: Waffle 1.65, around Mon Dec  7 10:27:59 EST 1992


#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# Takes a Waffle Message-ID and says when it was posted
#
require 'ctime.pl';

$EPOCH=627777777;	# from waffle.h

while ($i=shift) {
	if ($i=~/^([^<]{6})(\d+)w(\d\d\d)w@/ ||
	    $i=~/^<(.{6})(\d+)w(\d\d\d)w@/) {
		($num,$ver)=($1,$3);
		$num=~tr/aBcDeFgHiJkLmNoPqRsTuVwXyZ1234567890/\000-\043/;
		$val=1;
		$tm=$EPOCH;
		for (unpack("c6",$num)) {
		    $tm+=$_*$val;
		    $val*=36;
		}
		printf("Message %s: Waffle %4.2f, around %s",$i,$ver/100,
			&ctime($tm));
	} else {
		print "Couldn't parse msgid $i\n";
	}
}

  Bill
From: paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 00:23:34 ECT
Organization: Home Office in Vienna, Austria

fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> The .QWK format is an utter hack if you're not running the software it was
> originally designed for.  It has fixed-format headers, and no flexibility.

> Technically, Rhys's format is significanly superior to .QWK, since .QWK could
> be trivially encompassed by Rhys's fromat, but .QWK can not easily support
> USENET format, or Fido format, or anything else.

Whatever happened to the group over on Compu$erve that was meant to be
collaborating on a QWK-II standard?  This was meant to fix the defects
vis-a-vis USEnet support.

--
paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater)
Home Office in Vienna, Austria
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: From NOBODY
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 12:27:18 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

> Oops. I may have missed something. Are you using 1.64? I was testing
> with 1.65...
> 
> Is anybody using 1.64 that uses rmail from the command line? Does it
> work the same way as 1.65?

What I can't figure is why anyone's still using 1.64...

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: UUCICO SPEED
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:17:28 GMT

In article <Ja2sVB2w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
|Why on Earth would you want to disable the fallback standard?
|Surely when it comes to compression, you either want the best you can
|do, or have none at all.

Nope; in my experience, the default packet sizes, and the delays that MNP5
introduce, totally trashes UUCP "g" protocol performance at (7,64).  With
larger packet sizes, the effect is much reduced.

  Bill
From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: what the...
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 15:22:05 EST
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

abolins%visavis.uucp@nyongwa.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

> I have now installed 1.65.  But this is *still* happening when I "login"...
> 
> Unknown command: DATE:.
> Unknown command: REFERENCES:.
> ...

Have you perhaps saved a mail message or news article in your
home directory under the file name WAFFLE ?

If a 'waffle' file exists in a user's directory, it gets read
after login, and waffle executes its contents as if they were
typed at the -> prompt.

(I did the same thing once).

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From: system@korova.freeside.com (razorback)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: linux .98
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:31:14 CST
Organization: VHF void tube of the mind (713) 492-2783

vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan) writes:

> system@korova.freeside.com (razorback) writes:
> 
> 
> >does anyone know if the un*x flavour of waffle is compatable with linux 
> >.98??
> 
> some of us do :-)
> yes, it runs just fine under Linux...

yeah, thanks. actually, since the source runs for so much i may skip the 
friendlier interface for my un*x-understanding-impaired people..

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From: tcbowden@clovis.felton.ca.us (Timothy Bowden)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: fido -> uucp
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 17:44:16 PST
Organization: Yucca Flats II in Felton, CA

jnutt@hndymn.fidonet.org (jim nutt) writes:

> if anybody is interested, i have a very simple fido to waffle
> gate for mail.

Reminds me of the famous breakthrough announced my the Med School at
Texas A&M some years ago of the first transplant of a human appendix.



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From: bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Setting the modem's "E" parameter
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 07:48:05 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: 1776 Enterprises, Sudbury MA

mike@arts.com (Mike Witt) writes:
> Waffle will say "Waa" if the modem is in echo mode UNLESS it sees E1 in the 
> init string.  For instance, if you don't have any "E" in the init string, 
> and the modem DEFAULTS to echo being on, then Waffle will say "Waa".
> 
> Of course there are two possible modem strings (at least).  One in
> system\static and one in uucp\dialers.

For what it's worth, things seem to be slightly more complicated than that.
Waffle doesn't care which way the E parameter is set or which way your modem
defaults.  But it wants to see the E parameter in the initialization string
in order to know whether to echo characters or not.

This applies to the initialization string in SYSTEM\STATIC.  Waffle doesn't
insist that you set the E parameter in dialer scripts.

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