From: jarnis@mits.mdata.fi (Jarno Kokko)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Any MGH Owners Out There?
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:09:17 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland

In article <1if5anINNb0a@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> set@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Toaster Man) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.152644.21518@news.columbia.edu> ay@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu writes:
>>In article <skelly.0mvx@amiganet.chi.il.us> skelly@amiganet.chi.il.us (Sean Kelly) writes:
>>>those of you that are wanting to run out and buy one and then go to your local
>>>video store and rent evey game in sight and copy them - most new games have 
>>>copy-protection now and your copy will not work.
>>:	:
>>:	:
>>>    The bottom line - if you are looking for one in the hopes that you can run
>>>out to Blockbuster Video and rent every game they have and copy it - sorry, it
>>>won't happen.  Most of the new games have copy-protection and won't copy.  But
>>>if you are looking to protect what can be a VERY expensive investment with 
>>>some of these games running 75 bucks a crack, it's worth it...
>>
>>	According to this message, all the new games have copy protection so
>>	all these MGH and SMC would not work, then may I asked, what's the 
>>	point of buying these if it cannot 'back up' my favourite new game 
>>	like street fighter II, super star war etc...You mean I can only
>>	use it to back up old, dust-collecting games???
>>
>>								Alec
>>
>
>hehehe.. i would like to jump in here and ad my .2 worth.
>as for the MGH new adapters are being made to play all new games.  as for 
>mario kart and pilot wings there is an adapter avail for the mgh to play them.
>Also ranma 1/2 2 is protected but it can be played wiht the mgh with one of
>these new adapters.  The adapters are not avail to the general public yet
>because they are not %100 perfect yet, but they do exist believe me.  I dont
>know about smc owners i gues they will have to just wait for there faith to be
>decided.  Remember there is really nothing Nintendo or Sega can do to stop
>these companies from makeing new adapters for new games. its a winless war.
>
>ST

Sounds good - BUT... I don't really belive in this. Mario kart has additional
address line. You can't run the original cart with MGH plugged without
modifying the MGH internals. Pilotwings original runs without problems
on all copiers. COPYING of such game is different thing. You can copy
pilotwings to disk ,but it won't run without a DSP chip - a pilotwings cart!
If there's adapter/add-on which allows you to run Pilotwings from disk,
I wonder what it costs? I bet it's pretyt close to the cost of a Pilotwings
cart.

Copying a mario kart to disk is next to impossible:
due to the additional address line, a standard MGH/SMC would read only half
of the game contects (every second 32k block) - but I'm not sure will it
even do this. Current copier systems simply are not made for Mario Kart
style memory map, and for example, SMC would require a few addtional wires
to the system, AND a completely new/redesigned custom chip it uses. (And
a new EPROM ofcourse.) and I strongly think that you can't just add
a magical adapter to MGH and get rid of all these problems. 

Ranma 1/2 2 protected? Hmm.. new to me. I haven't seen this thing yet,
but as it's no Nintendo release, I belive it's some lame attempt to do
a protection, and a cracked version will come VERY soon. If not, I
think Nintendo has begun giving out info how to protect games against current
copiers. In this case, you will see a new batch of copier systems in
few months, and again, 99% of carts are copyable.

- Jarnis/Image