HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: geoff@world.std.com (Geoff Collyer)
Subject: Re: NNTP/CNews ?
Organization: Software Tool & Die Netnews Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:46:55 GMT

Charles Curley:
>My question is how do I get NetNews?  Via NNTP?

You can get netnews by several means, the most popular being uucp and
nntp.

>it doesn't seem to describe how the get the news

Hmm, an interesting oversight; I guess some discussion of this issue
should be added.  In the old days, you found a site that was willing to
feed you, though the usual informal means (talking to your local peers,
etc.).  That's getting harder as netnews volume increases, but you can
always buy a news feed from the various commercial network service
providers, notably PSI and UUNET.

PSI can apparently be reached at +1 703 620 6651 or info@psi.com.

UUNET can be reached at +1 800 4UUNET4, +1 703 204 8000 or
info@uunet.uu.net.
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Xref: sparky news.software.nntp:914 news.software.readers:1571
From: jessea@homecare.com (Jesse W. Asher)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.readers
Subject: Problem with using "=" in trn (in rn mode) using nntp over network.
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:52:42 GMT
Organization: G.O.D Inc.

I'm running trn (run as rn for now) on SCO Opendesktop 1.x on top of
nntp.  When I try to get a subject listing with "=", however, all I
get is a carriage return and no listing.  On the server machine where
the news resides, trn (rn) works just fine (running the same OS), but
it doesn't seem to want to work over the network.  Does anyone know
why this is occuring and how I can get it to show the subject
listings?

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 Internet: jessea@homecare.COM                 UUCP: ...!banana!homecare!jessea
From: jml4@cus.cam.ac.uk (John Line)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: nntp 1.5.11 - disabling NNTP server - how?
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:40:30 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

Earlier today, I needed to reboot our new NNTP server. We haven't yet announced
the server as providing a full service, but there are quite a number of people
using it already, scattered over several departments. There were four of them
at the time I wanted to reboot, and though I thought I'd seen a reference
somewhere to a way to disable NNTP (other than "brute force" methods like
mv'ing nntpd - which wouldn't interrupt current users), but couldn't find it
quickly, so I just rebooted.

Since then, I've looked at the source code (nntp 1.5.11, on SunOS 4.1.2, over
last year's C-news), and in server/serve.c I found references to #DEFINEs
LOGINCHECK and NOLOGIN, the former apparently specifying a frequency with which
to check if NNTP access should be disabled, and the latter a file which
disables access by existing.

However, grep-ing through the code, docs, and Makefiles failed to find any
reference to these #DEFINEs. In particular, they are not mentioned in
conf.h[.dist].

Is it safe to use them, or are they something that was never fully implemented
or tested? Or putting that another way, has anyone tried using them? It looks
like any newsreader with an active connection will get an unsolicited "shutting
down" message - how well do they cope with that, e.g. do they bother passing
the message to the user? If not, then it's of limited use unless you want to
disable nntp for an extended period while the system is running normally.

                                John
-- 
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            New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, ENGLAND.
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From: robert@peregrine.peregrine.com (Robert Young)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Need a copy of the patch program
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:09:44 GMT
Reply-To: robert@peregrine.UUCP (Robert Young)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Peregrine Systems, Inc., Carlsbad, CA

I am in the processes of setting up a new system with the following
components:
	trn
	nntp
	cnews

I was reading in the README files for nntp that some patches will 
have to be applied to bring it up to the latest level.

Coul;d someone send me a copy of the patch program needed apply
these patches?
Also, is this program used to patch other packages such as cnews 
and trn?

Thanks in advance



-------------------------- X**2 + YY**2 = C**2 -------------------------
Robert Young
(Peregrine Systems, Inc)
robert@peregrine.com
uunet!peregrine!robert
-------------------------- X**2 + YY**2 = C**2 -------------------------
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: chc@orion.ksc.nasa.gov (Charles Curley)
Subject: NNTP/CNews ?
Organization: Boeing Aerospace Operations, Kennedy Space Center, Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:20:33 GMT

I have obtained and compiled the CNews from May 92 with limited difficulty.
My question is how do I get NetNews?  Via NNTP?  I have NNTP 1.5.11 and
have been using it as a client side, but would like to have the actual news
files/articles sit on my machine.  Do I build the server side and then get
someone to agree to give me the news?  Once all my software is setup
(whatever that means), how would I locate someone to feed me news (someone
other than the sites that I have been using with my client side NNTP)?

Is there a guide that describes the questions that I have asked?  I have
the _Installing_and_Operating_"C_News"_ Network_News_Software_ but it
doesn't seem to describe how the get the news (other than a description
terse description of the ihave/sendme protocol).  Is it in there and I have
missed it?

Are there entities out there that "filter" news?  That is, prevent the
distribution of certain "undesirable" newsgroups (only a few spring to mind).

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Xref: sparky news.software.nntp:915 news.software.readers:1574
From: cudep@warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Problem with using "=" in trn (in rn mode) using nntp over network.
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:14:49 GMT
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn

In article <1992Jul30.005242.3915@homecare.com> jessea@homecare.com (Jesse W. Asher) writes:
>I'm running trn (run as rn for now) on SCO Opendesktop 1.x on top of
>nntp.  When I try to get a subject listing with "=", however, all I
>get is a carriage return and no listing.  On the server machine where
>the news resides, trn (rn) works just fine (running the same OS), but
>it doesn't seem to want to work over the network.  Does anyone know
>why this is occuring and how I can get it to show the subject
>listings?

Have you installed the XTHREADS patch to nntpd?
The patch comes with the trn-2.? distribution.

Cheers,
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From: rsnyder@atl.ge.com (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: 'IHAVE' dropping connection
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:13:26 GMT
Organization: GE Aerospace, Advanced Technology Labs

Does anyone know why NNTP would drop a connection when the IHAVE command is
used?  I'm running nntp 1.5.11 under Ultrix 3.1.  The machine does have xfer
permissions, and I usually am able to send IHAVE's, but occassionally it
will simply drop the connection at that point.  The load on the machine isn't
very high (usually around or below 1).

Bob
-- 
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From: pgrine@nic.cerf.net (Robert Young)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Need source for "patch" program
Date: 27 Jul 92 08:43:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CERFnet

The README file in the NNTP package makes reference a a "patch"
program used to appy patches.
Is that a standard program or is it particular to nntp.
I have not been able to find it in the package and would
appreciate it if someone could send it to me.
You could mail it to robert@peregrine.com   or
pgrine@nic.cerf.net

Thanks in advance
Robert Young
(Peregrine Systems)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: sardella@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Sardella)
Subject: Junking articles found with "-s" option
Followup-To: news.software.nn
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center/Code 532
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:21:44 GMT

When I invoke "nn" with the "-s" or "/s" options, even after I've read or
junked the collected articles, they still show up the next time I run "nn".
 The man page says that when "-m" or "-x" are used, ".newsrc" is not
modified, but I'm not using either of these options.  So how do I junk
articles I'm finished with?

	    Thanks,
	    Tom Sardella
     NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
     Greenbelt, MD
     sardella@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov
From: garym@telesoft.com (Gary Morris @pulsar)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: NN patches
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:23:53 GMT
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA

In <3652@spool.mu.edu> marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach) writes:

>If this info is in an FAQ, we keep mail here less than a week.  :-(

The FAQ says the latest patch level is 16.  Though I think it also gives
parts of Larry's 17 and 18 patches.

>1) What is the latest patchlevel, and where can one find the patches
>for 6.4  I've got up to 16, but I saw mention of 18.

There are two unofficial patches (not from Kim) that are known as 17 and 18.
They are from Larry Bouzane <larry@garfield.cs.mun.ca> and were posted in
Nov and Dec 91.  There are many other unnumbered patches too.  
--GaryM
-- 
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TeleSoft, San Diego, CA         Phone:    +1 619-457-2700
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: chaw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (S. S. Chawathe)
Subject: Auto-select for a sub-tree of newsgroups?
Keywords: nn auto-select help
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: news
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:07:57 GMT

I would like to have nn auto select all articles containing some
keyword from a subtree of the news hierarchy (Basically, the
clari. groups).  Is this possible at all?

Thanks,

-Chaw


Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
Subject: Re: How do I suspend nn?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:52:13 GMT

aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis) writes:

>I really, truly, honestly want to suspend my nn process, in order to use
>some other process that I have suspended, or whatever, and return to nn.
>However, nn *always* starts a subshell, instead.  I'm using Korn shell,
>if that's relevant.  (Same behavior with C shell, though.)

>Please don't tell me to RTFNNM -- I already have.  It *claims* that C-z
>will suspend the shell if possible, else start a subshell.  It never does,
>though.  :(

i tried it and it works for me (using ksh) can you suspend other processes
with ^Z ? i suspect that maybe your stty susp is not set to ^Z (check with
stty -a and see what susp is set to)

			fish
--
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NASA/GSFC                         VOX: 301-513-1683                
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: asrael@bob.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Schoef)
Subject: How to list files with same subject automatically?
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:52:03 GMT

I have installed the following alias on my system:
alias nnmypost nn -x -X -m -nSchoef
(where Schoef is my name (luckily I'm not called Smith in this case, cause
it's not that unique)).

By invoking nnmypost I get nn started with a menu containg all articles
I've been posted for the last few weeks.

Since I call this command to see if there are any answers to my postings,
I would like to see the articles with the same subject on the same menu.
Now I have to read every article and then to type 'G RET RET RET' to see
the related articles (quite boring).

If someone has a solution to my problem, please respond (by email or in
news.software.nn). If the solution doesn't appear in this newsgroup but
I get one via email, I will post the solution here!

Thanx in advance

Stefan


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From: marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: NN patches
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:02:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: spool.3652
Reply-To: marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach)
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Originator: marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu

If this info is in an FAQ, we keep mail here less than a week.  :-(

1) What is the latest patchlevel, and where can one find the patches
for 6.4  I've got up to 16, but I saw mention of 18.

2) The MF.c chokes on my end.  As MF.c is derivied for xmakefile, I 
looked and saw xmakefile is a common file updated in the pathes.  Is this
a source of headaches?
(the nature of the choking is "MF.c", line 167: invalid input token: "

I await any replies.....

-- 
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MS-DOS - it's not   marc@milestn.mil.wi.us    is your problem, not mine!
my problem!     If it was said on UseNet, it must be true.
   Unix - It's a nice place to live, but you don't want to visit there.
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
Subject: Re: How do I suspend nn?
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:07:04 GMT

In <fish.712594333@news2.gsfc.nasa.gov> fish@daacdev1.stx.com writes:

> i tried it and it works for me (using ksh) can you suspend other processes
> with ^Z ? i suspect that maybe your stty susp is not set to ^Z (check with
> stty -a and see what susp is set to)

No, my tty is set correctly, I can suspend almost everything else.

Two People have already pointed out in email that my nn was probably built
without #define HAVE_JOBCONTROL.  Thanks.

-- 
lrwx------   1 aldavi01 emacsstu       9 Jun  6 12:43 .signature -> /dev/null
From: garym@telesoft.com (Gary Morris @pulsar)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Just got nn up - its doing funny things
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:08:08 GMT
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA

In <1992Jul27.043823.6311@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> ben@rex.chb.uokhsc.edu (Benjamin Z. Goldsteen) writes:

>   If I delete my .newsrc file and ask it to create me a new one (as a
>new user would have none), then after it asks me to start from scratch
>(and I say yes), it does "Segmentation Fault".  Any ideas?

David Katinsky <dmk@theaetetus.rutgers.edu> posted a patch to global.c
to fix this problem back on April 23rd.
--GaryM
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TeleSoft, San Diego, CA         Phone:    +1 619-457-2700
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Subject: Q: (can't find in FAQ) saving reply mail
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:27:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I would like to save my reply mail.  I currently have the following line
in my .mailrc file:

set record=/u17/pdh/.mailout

which causes all outgoing mail from the UCB mail command to also be recorded
in the specified file.  I also have a means by which I can automatically
update the file when my home path changes.

Mail sent as a reply from NN does not get saved that way, and I would like
to have it all saved in the same way, preferrably in the same file and in
the same format.  It should save it with all headers as mailed.

Recently I sent a reply to Bill Wohler's FAQ posting and somehow the whole
FAQ got included.  I'd like to figure out what went wrong, but I have no
copy of the outgoing mail and I am sure Bill would not have kept it (but
I could be wrong).

There have been a couple other times I'd have liked to see what it was I
actually mailed out, and since NN replies are not yet being saved, I cannot
figure out problems related to them yet.
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: ben@rex.chb.uokhsc.edu (Benjamin Z. Goldsteen)
Subject: Just got nn up - its doing funny things
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:38:23 GMT

   I have managed to get nn up on a DG/UX AViiON Rel 4.31 (wasn't that
hard - has to be compiled as BSD, though - otherwise, it can't read the
keyboard).  I am running 6.4.18.  Putting aside my questions about
how to administrate the thing, I have two problems. 
   If I press a key outside the range of messages, then it displays
about 10 C-cedilas (that thing that looks like a C and a , transposed). 
A minor problem...
   If I delete my .newsrc file and ask it to create me a new one (as a
new user would have none), then after it asks me to start from scratch
(and I say yes), it does "Segmentation Fault".  Any ideas?

Thanks
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: andreas@dutedib.et.tudelft.nl (A.A.Buykx)
Subject: Thanks for "Re: how to install nn?"
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:24:13 GMT

Thank you all for your advice with installing nn. This unworthy earthling
did forget to "inst INIT" and to "make all". Everything works fine for now
(nnmaster builds database).

Yours sincerely, Andreas

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   === andreas@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl ===  Delft University of Technology ===
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From: aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: How do I suspend nn?
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:00:58 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

I really, truly, honestly want to suspend my nn process, in order to use
some other process that I have suspended, or whatever, and return to nn.
However, nn *always* starts a subshell, instead.  I'm using Korn shell,
if that's relevant.  (Same behavior with C shell, though.)

Please don't tell me to RTFNNM -- I already have.  It *claims* that C-z
will suspend the shell if possible, else start a subshell.  It never does,
though.  :(

Please mail any reply.  Thanks in advance.

-- 
lrwx------   1 aldavi01 emacsstu       9 Jun  6 12:43 .signature -> /dev/null
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: fjh@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus James HENDERSON)
Subject: Re: Q: (can't find in FAQ) saving reply mail
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:48:41 GMT

pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard ) writes:

>I would like to save my reply mail.  I currently have the following line
>in my .mailrc file:
>
>set record=/u17/pdh/.mailout
>
>which causes all outgoing mail from the UCB mail command to also be recorded
>in the specified file.  I also have a means by which I can automatically
>update the file when my home path changes.
>
>Mail sent as a reply from NN does not get saved that way, and I would like
>to have it all saved in the same way, preferrably in the same file and in
>the same format.  It should save it with all headers as mailed.

Try using the following:
	set news-record ...
	set mail-record ...

WARNING:
	There is a bug in nn in that if the values of these variables is
	incorrect, so that nn cannot create the appropriate file, you do not
	get notified of the error: instead it just doesn't bother to
	save outgoing mail or news.

-- 
Fergus Henderson             fjh@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU      
This .signature VIRUS is a self-referential statement that is true - but 
you will only be able to consistently believe it if you copy it to your own
.signature file!
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: nn64
Keywords: nn64
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:54:07 GMT
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

root@cpp.uucp (Rich Bauer) writes:

>After compiling and installing nn64, when I go to initialize 
>it I get the following error:  /usr/lib/nn/nnmaster invoked with
>wrong user priviliges.

>What is wrong?  I followed all of the directions exactly.
>And the installation and compilation is done as ROOT.

Make sure that there is a 'news' entry in passwd and group (since nnmaster
is run setuid/setgid to news and that the files and directories that nnmaster
needs to access are owned and writable by news: basically the spool direct,
and files...


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#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: How do I suspend nn?
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:10:49 GMT

fish@daacdev1.stx.com writes:

>aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis) writes:

>>I really, truly, honestly want to suspend my nn process, in order to use
>>some other process that I have suspended, or whatever, and return to nn.
>>However, nn *always* starts a subshell, instead.  I'm using Korn shell,
>>if that's relevant.  (Same behavior with C shell, though.)

>>Please don't tell me to RTFNNM -- I already have.  It *claims* that C-z
>>will suspend the shell if possible, else start a subshell.  It never does,
>>though.  :(

>i tried it and it works for me (using ksh) can you suspend other processes
>with ^Z ? i suspect that maybe your stty susp is not set to ^Z (check with
>stty -a and see what susp is set to)

Unless, of course, you're on a system without job control (or maybe the
'monitor' option for ksh isn't set).
-- 
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#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."