HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: erics@netcom.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0 and assembly language
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 19:01:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

tbeaubie@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Todd Beaubien) writes:

>I keep telling them, "Why would I want to program in C? If I wanted
>to do assembly language, I'd just do assembly language!"

Which just shows how much you don't know about real-world programming.
Applications written in C are PORTABLE. Try taking the assembly language
program you wrote for a 68030 machine and getting it to run on some
other architecture. I guess that's something T/Maker can look forward to
with the PowerPC.

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erics@sco.com	    |  ever need a computer?  There's no future in
erics@infoserv.com  |  it ... stick with your adding machines my friend."
CI$: 70262,3610	    |  - David Sarnoff of RCA to Thomas J. Watson of IBM
From: warner@mtu.edu (NATHAN T. WARNER)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: UNIX utilities for the Mac
Keywords: sit xbin
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:03:45 GMT
Organization: Michigan Technological University

This is a reply to the guy who wanted to know about a UNIX version of the stuffit
archiver (for the purpose of downloading).  For all your UNIX utility needs (for
the mac), check out "phloem.uoregon.edu" and look in the /pub/Sun4/cap directory.

If it doesn't have what you need, just find out where it is through Archie.

There was also a request for info on a mac uncompressor for the UNIX 'compress'
command.  There is.  Check out "ftp.apple.com" in a utilities directory for it. 
You could also go into /dts/help and look through the "dir-files-all" file.  A
program called MacCompress should be listed there.

Hope this helps!!


			Later Days,		At the end of the rainbow
			Nate			and your rope. -- Nirvana
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From: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Boris (was  Re: Caveat Emptor: After Dark)
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:52:42 GMT
Reply-To: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: None - Entire program eliminated due to budget cuts :)
Discliamer: Upon my being captured or killed, my professors will
            disavow any knowledge of me, my statements, and/or
            my mission.


In article <14APR199212145376@mitme5.mit.edu>,
Citizen kettler@mitme5.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.) writes :
>Since I am an MIT grad student, I was close enough so I could go to the 
>MacWorld Expo at Boston in August last year. While there I stopped by the 
>Berkeley Systems booth. I talked with people there and said I felt it was not a
>good thing to have an ocean floor for this particular reason. However, the man
>I talked to said that was why After Dark has an option to turn the floor off.
>Personally, I prefer the Boris cat screen saver which comes with MAD. This one 
>has a kitten either chasing after a butterfly or with the butterfly turned off,
>will have the kitten occasionally purr, clean its face, or lie down. However, 
>no screen saver should be considered a replacement for the best things of all 
>to do: turn off your machine if you will be gone a long time, or use the knob
>or brightness cdev to turn the brightness of your monitor off. Replies may be

  Boris will do the mentioned things (lie down, purr, etc..) even if the
butterfly in on.  Sometimes the butterfly will disappear for a spell, so
Boris will stop walking and preform a new action where he is.  You know, cats
get bored very quickly.
  My favorite action is when he stops next to the edge of the screen.  He'll
purr for a bit, then, if you're not watching the screen, Boris will sharpen
his claws on the edge of the screen.  I swear, I sit and watch that damn cat
and he won't do it, but as soon as I turn my back, just like a real cat, he'll
go and sharpen his claws.  Now this is good software!  :)

  Oh, and one other thing : all the girls in the apartment building think that
Boris is just the cutest thing.  I never thought I`d meet women by using a
screen saver, but, oh well, it works!  :)

|--------------------------------| "I like it.  It's got that 'It's a cruel
|      J. Taggart Gorman Jr.     |  world - Let's throw ourselves in the
| jtgorman@caslon.cs.arizona.edu |  abyss.' type ambience."
|--------------------------------|     - Christian Slater, in _Heathers_
From: whitesr@stat.appstate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Scientific graphing program
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:57:25 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University

In article <20060@castle.ed.ac.uk>, egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
> --rob@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu (Robert K Shull) writes:
> --
> -->I'm looking for a scientific graphing/charting program that would be a good
> -->replacement for DeltaGraph (which I'm about ready to give up on). Something
> -->with equivalent or better features, and less bugs is the idea. :-)
> 
> A replacement for DeltaGraph? Well, a blunt pencil would certainly be
> a big step forward.
> 
> 

I wouldn't go quite THIS far, but I did try Deltagraph a couple
of years ago to do some double-y line graphs.  I found it to
be very counter-intuitive and sold it.  Although I have many
complaints re Excel, it has satisfied my double-y needs with the
power of an almost full-featured spreadsheet.  (And since the 3.a
maintenance release, it appears to even correctly export pict images
via the clipboard!)

Steve
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From: scott@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Scott Bronson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Microsoft and Hierarchical Menus
Summary: Why doesn't Microsoft use hierarchical menus?
Keywords: microsoft hierarchical menu word 5.0 excel 3.0
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:50:38 GMT

Has anyone else noticed that Word 5.0 and Excel 3.0 both totally
lack hierarchical menus?  Is this a conscious decision on Microsoft's
part, or did it just happen that way?

I noticed because there are a few aspects of both programs user
interfaces that could be greatly enhanced by a hierarchical menu.
For instance, the alignment dialog in Excel 3.0 could be turned
into a hierarchical menu with virtually no effort.  Also, the recent
files in both the Word and Excel File menus could be releagted
to a hierarchical menu, thus allowing the number of files remembered
to reach a useful length.  

Did Microsoft's shunning hierarchical menus come as a result of
Windows not having an equivalent (does it?  I don't know).  Any
ideas?

	- Scott
From: cchung@sneezy.phy.duke.edu (Charles Chung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: A recommended CAD program?
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:42:48 GMT

Hello,

Carpentry is a hobby of of mine and it sure would be nice to have a  
low cost CAD program that could help me out in designing projects.   
Can anyone out there recommend anything.  

Much obliged.

Oh, please email, as I don't get to read this group too often.

Thanks,

-Chuck
From: smith@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Eudora - Great Mail System -but prob.
Keywords: eudora mail unix
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:50:16 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Andrew Burchill) writes:

Before I start to attempt at a response to your questions, you should
know that there is a fabulous (in my opinion) enhancement available to
Eudora from Simon Fraser University. Ray Davison, a staff member in
the Academic Computing Services, has modified (with Steve Dorner's
approval) Eudora to use a scripting language. Ray calls this scripting
language "C-" (i.e. "C minus"). It is very capable, just like the
scripting language in any modem program. With this utility Ray has
created a script for SFU people that not only navigates the non-cisco
terminal server but also can get into the mail system via Datapac as
well - and makes the decison on how to proceed on its own! Very
impressive to a non-programmer like me.

The script resides in a "TEXT" resource in Eudora, so you still need
ResEdit to paste it in. But once it is done, every one at a site can
use it - that is how it works here at SFU, anyhow.

If you would like to have someone from your computing services work on
this for you, they could use the SFU Eudora (which Ray keeps very
current with Steve's) and the excellent documentation for the "C-"
language and produce a script for all of you.

>As a follow up from the previous article from Garry.
>To access the university Unix system via a modem you have to go through
>two networks - The Dialin network then to telnet.  I have been able to
>get into the dialin network, and to the Unix system but then Eudora
>freezes - I have a couple of questions about assumptions Eudora makes.
>  1. What shell does Eudora use when it gets into Unix (C shell, or Beorne).
>     Does it make a difference.
Generally Eudora doesn't get as far as a shell - it "telnet's" to a
different port - the one the popserver sits on.

>  2. After loging into the University there are a number of system 
>     messages.  Would this mess the system up, some times it takes more
>     than the 2sec limit to list these.
That's OK, with the SFU scripting. I think you can wait up to 60
seconds. You should see all the goop that our Eudora has to navigate
through!

>  3. The login: prompt is 'ccu login:'  Does anyone know if the ccu
>     at the start would cause a problem?
Nah, that's easy - just wait for "ogin:"

>  4. The dial in line is 8,N,1 with no Xon/Xoff and no echo - after the
>     first dialin network.
That sounds OK for Eudora.

...r
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jane.Hogan@cc.utas.edu.au (Jane Hogan)
Subject: PD security for the Mac - FAQ
Organization: Computing Centre
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:26:53 GMT

I know this was discussed last year sometime but alas I failed to keep the 
files.

What PD or ShareWare software is available for preventing other people from
using your Mac?

Thanks in advance

Jane
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: R. Glenn Stauffer <stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: Macintosh program to create ZIP files (?)
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:41:10 GMT

I am looking for a program to create PKZIP compatible ZIP archive files
on a Macintosh.
I have found an Unzip program, but nothing to go the other way.  I
frequently upload files
to a BBS system and need a way to archive files so that they are
compatible with IBM PCs.

If anyone knows of a PD/Shareware variant, please tell me the file name
and where I can
find it.  I've scoured the archive sites with no luck.

R. Glenn Stauffer
Micro-Computer Specialist, Swarthmore College Computing Center
500 College Avenue, Swarthmore, Pa 19081
Internet: stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Upgrade to PowerPoint for System 7.0, when ????
Date: 14 Apr 1992 20:04:38 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Apr13.151117.9770@covax.commerce.uq.oz.au>
bellamy@covax.commerce.uq.oz.au writes:
>Failing an upgrade to PowerPoint I'm also interested in recommendations for
>any other good System 7 savvy Slide / OHP presentation maker.  It _must_
>be able to produce handouts and handle reasonably complex mathematical
>equations.

We use Persuasion 2.1 and MathType for this, although we're probably going to
switch to Expressionist fairly soon, since the publishers of MathType have
chosen to implement Microsoft's OLE instead of System 7's publish/subscribe. 

The biggest drawback is that equations pasted into Persuasion are black. Since
we usually want them to be white, I first have to color them in FreeHand. Now
that our entire department is using System 7, I can probably automate some of
this using publish/subscribe.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: gordo@comix.cs.uoregon.edu (Gordon Yuen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Fax Software
Keywords: ZyXel, FAX software
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:22:21 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

FYI, MaxFax Release Q Version 3.1.0 is an excellent program. I have used
it for both national as well as international faxes halfway round the
world and it works fine. It came as a seperate program with my PowerUser
modem and is made by the people at Prometheus Products Inc. (of which I
am not affiliated with, just a contented customer). The User manual is well
written and easy to understand. Here's their address and phone #:
	9524 SW Tualatin Sherwood Rd.
	Tualatin, OR 97062
	(503) 692-9600
	Tech - (503) 692-9601
I use it on a Quadra 700 (running System 7.0.1, of course).
Hope this info is useful to you. Enjoy.

-- just my $0.02! 8-}
From: cs225ex@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (A A DeGuzman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PICT -> QuickTime-compressed-PICT ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:21:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr6.222126.8067
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Is there any application available (freeware or shareware) that compresses
a PICT file using QuickTime?

-- 
Alan A. DeGuzman       |   "I think that the surest signs of intelligent life 
Calculus&Mathematica   |    elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has
Dept of Math, UIUC     |    tried to contact us." - Hobbes to Calvin
                                                                     
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: Re: StuffIt Deluxe 3.0
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:56:49 GMT

In <1992Mar20.040148.25884@eff.org> hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs) writes:


>I've never understood this viewpoint.  Anyone can get Unstuffit
>Deluxe, so what's the problem with the new format?

   ANyone can get Unstuffit Deluxe? I've never understood THIS viewpoint. 
First of all, downline is a Godly utility which will convert Stuffit
1.5.1 format archives automatically as they download. Also, FETCH 2.0.6
is an amazing tcp-based utility which converts 1.5.1 and hqx format
archives. As well, what about unstuff for your UNIX? It doesn't work
on Deluxe archives. The list goes on... Ingemar hit the ball on the nose.
All these damn formats have come in, and no programmers are able to
(or want to?) keep up with them all. I don't think the programmers should
be scrambling to update their goodies everytime Alladin switches the
algorithm. Stuffit 1.5.1 seems to be the standard on the net by far,
and although I would prefer Compact Pro, it seems that it has only released
it's algorithm to the Public Domain recently? I heard somethign about this,
but can't be sure. IS it even in Public Domain now? It must be, because it
is included in Stuffit Expander, and I didn't find a single credit
to bill Goodman and his format. Compact pro kicks butt, but I LOVE 
downline and Fetch, and they don't interpet Packed files...
   steve
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From: bskendig@rise.Princeton.EDU (Brian Kendig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: sys 7 eating up tons of memory.
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:57:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Apr16.155705.26677
Organization: Starfleet Academy, Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <74268@netnews.upenn.edu> pauls@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Richard J. Pauls) writes:
>I am running system 7 on a MacII ci.  Today I looked at the "about this
>macintosh" pannel and saw that the system was using up 5.7 meg of memory,

The RAM cache, settable via the Memory control panel, is often the
culprit in this situation.  Make sure it's not set to several megs
large!  For optimal performance, set the RAM cache to either 192k or
256k (or 384k on a IIsi running off internal video).

     << Brian >>

-- 
| Brian S. Kendig       --/\-- Tri     bskendig@phoenix.Princeton.EDU, @PUCC
| Computer Science BSE  |/  \| Quad  You gave your life to become the person
| Princeton University  /____\ clubs    you are right now.  Was it worth it?
From: desavouret@fnalb.fnal.gov (Gene Desavouret 4402, 3700)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Microsoft Bashing (Was: Re: News from Microsoft)
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:12:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: linac.NYY_UE5!Z
Reply-To: desavouret@fnalb.fnal.gov
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <sblh.702595960@msi.umn.edu>, sblh@s24.msi.umn.edu (Susan Levy Haskell) writes...
>stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix) writes:
> 
>>In article <#+r~hg+?`@twinsun.com> junio@twinsun.com (Junio Hamano) writes:
>>>
>>>I'm confused.  Are you suggesting that even a copy obtained under
>>>multiple-user licence has only one install disk and Microsoft
>>>insists personalizing it?  ...
> 
>>It is my understanding (from numerous sources) that there is no such
>>animal as a "site license" from Microsoft.  I personally have never seen 
>>multiple-user copies of any Microsoft software (the exception may be MS
>>Mail, but I don't recall).  Anyway, Word and Excel are only purchasable
>>in MS Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Mail in one package...and still
>>single user) or individually.  If this is not the case, please let me know,
>>since this would be useful information to me.
> 
>At least for educational use, Microsoft has "multi-packs" available.  They
>supply 1 manual set, 1 copy of the media, and n (in my case, ten) "rights-
>to-use".  I have two ten-packs of Microsoft Word (for sixteen Macs--it was
>cheaper to over-license than to buy sixteen copies).
>-- 
>Susan B. Levy Haskell             |||          sblh@msi.umn.edu 

Microsoft's license agreement states that licensees must "have a ... process
.. to assure that the number of persons using the SOFTWARE concurrently 
does not exceed the number of licenses."  The license is specific with 
regards to distributing the package from a server, and doesn't prohibit the
use of their software on a network.  

I've never seen what I consider to be "vicious" copy protection in a 
Microsoft product--backups of Excel or Word have never been a problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge)
Subject: Re: Claris bashing (and a bit of DeltaPoint bashing)(was: Misc Bashing)
Reply-To: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:59:15 GMT

dks@athena.mit.edu (dks) writes:
>>The problem, of course, is that it's really difficult to ever put out a
>>product (especially a moderately well-tested, stable product) if you
>>don't pick some point and freeze the feature set there. If Claris had
>>delayed MacDraw Pro until Sys7 features could go in and testing be done,
>>would that be more acceptable? Or would people be bashing Claris for
>>long delays instead of for leaving out Sys7 features?

>We're talking about a wholly owned Apple subsidiary here.  If I can read
>Tech Notes, so bloody well can they.  Not to mention the little detail
>that System 7 itself was slightly late so that there ought to have been
>ample time to put in all the features and bugs we were expecting.  Besides,
>if Claris doesn't showcase OS7 features, who do you think will?

That's not the point. The point is:
	1) At some point Claris decided to freeze MacDraw Pro's
		feature set.
	2) At that point, Sys7 features weren't in the feature set.

Given these two things, it made more sense for MacDraw Pro to come out
as is. It also means, most likely that Claris froze the feature set at
a dumb point, given that "everybody" knew that Sys7 was on its way.
Nevertheless, I prefer software that exists (MacDraw Pro) to software
that is semi-infinitely delayed (MacWrite Pro).

--John

        It wasn't lies, Jenny, it was acting.
                -- Nevil Sinclair, _The_Rocketeer_

+++John L. Coolidge++til May:coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu++May:coolidge@apple.com++
I speak for myself, not the UofI or Apple. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
Copying allowed only if attributed and if all copies may be further copied.
From: pmb2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Peter Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Any System-7 compatible menu-bar clocks available?
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:02:11 GMT
Reply-To: pmb2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <ktvbn6INNdf2@spim.mips.com> jrg@mips.com (John Galloway) writes:
>>>In article <92091.150125MJR145@psuvm.psu.edu>, MJR145@psuvm.psu.edu (Michael Joseph Raneri) writes:

>>>> > After upgrading to System 7, my Moire menu-bar clock doesn't
>>>> > seem to work.  Are there any system 7 compatible menu-bar
>>>> > clocks out there?  Are any PD?
>SuperClock version 3.8 is working fine for me under System 7.01 and A/UX 3.0
>(the one slight excpetion to this is that its AM/MP indicator is on top of
>the ballon help menu icon, but since SuperClock does not use that area for
>a button the ballon help menu still works fine, you just have to click on teh
>AM/PM indicator!).

I am using SuperClock 3.9.1 from sumex;  it lets you suppress the am/pm
indicator entirely, which is very nice for getting it to fit in a crowded
menu bar;  noballoon menu and cram-bar are also nice for opening up the 
menu bar, both at sumex as well.....

Peter
From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Presentation software: More or Persuasion?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:14:00 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <SPENCER.92Apr10222746@guraldi.med.umich.edu>, spencer@med.umich.edu (Spencer W. Thomas) writes...
>   I frequently go to 35mm slide or overhead; I almost never do a
>   presentation on-line (although this may change, as "wired" classrooms
>   become more common).
> 
>   Templates are useful, as they allow me to decide the "look" of the
>   presentation separately from its content.  
> 
>   I liked PowerPoint's color schemes; it's much more difficult to change
>   all the colors in Persuasion (to, e.g., change a slide presentation
>   for black & white overheads).

You should be able to get a demo disk for More. Even though I already had
Persuasion, I got the demo in order to see what it had. One thing that it
has which Persuasion doesn't is much more flexible gradient fills. You can
pick general directions (left to right, top-left to bottom-right, etc.) and
I believe you can have three colors (can't remember).

Actually, it's rather easy to change from slides to overheads in Persuasion.
Of course, you need to set things up beforehand, but just create your basic
slide AutoTemplates, then save as and convert the templates to black & white.
Then, just use the File/AutoTemplates... to open the B&W AT and replace all
templates of the same name. All your slides will now use the B&W templates
instead of the color ones.

You do need to make certain that you create the B&W templates from the color
ones so that your text & chart positioning remains the same when you pull over
the B&W templates into the presentation. 


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