From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Bobby.Bowden.sucks.sucks.sucks
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 16:02:18 GMT

kschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt) writes:


In article <1992Oct6.025316.25160@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kschudt@magnus.acs
.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt) writes:
>>    OOOO
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>   {there is a difference between gutsy and dumb}
>
>Karl :)

ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH! Half my previous post got wiped out!!!!!!!!

I was saying, a fake field goal by FSU would really really have been dumb!
Miami would have been expecting it, and with no time left it would have had to
go all the way to the endzone, unlikely against UM's speed.

Anyone who thinks Bowden sucks ought to hire John Cooper or Jerry Faust.
You dont realize how good you have it! He *is* a *VERY* good coach!

(watch what you wish for, you might get it)

Karl
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For those of you who don't think Bowden sucks, let me educate you.

First of all, let me say that Bowden's image as the so-called "river boat
gambler" is really only based on one play: the 'rooskie. For those of you
who think this was some sort of great genius, well, maybe it was...but it
wasn't Bowden's genius I can assure you. The play was copied from Arizona
(maybe Arizona St. , one of the two) and put in by Bowden. As far as I know,
Clemson actually knew that Bowden had the play practiced...but they fell for
it anyway...par for Clemson I'd say.

Other than this one play Bowden has not been all that an axiting a play 
caller. In fact, the last two years have been down right boring to watch as a
result. Last year all we did was run the ball (*yawn*). Yeah, I suppose one
could bring up those trick plays he called against Michigan last year, but
keep in mind that our offense was walking all over thier defense and the pass
to weldon from ward wasn't even needed. As for the other play(s), they came
as a result of a non-existent kicking game...and _shouldn't_ have been needed.

But this is all trivial. Bowden will never win the NC, and I'll tell you why.
The man has never, and probably will never, put together a complete package
here at FSU. By that I mean a solid defense, powerfull offense, and a good
kicking game. In almost every year that Bowden has coached here at least one
of those elements has been missing from our game.

Offense. Bowden has major problems when it comes to offense. In the qb
mess he has never been able to make a decent decision. For years he started
a guy by the name of Chip (sheah, right) Ferguson. Plain and simple, this guy
sucked. He is solely responsible for the making of the "fab four" recievers
that played here. Why? Because he couldn't throw for shit. Those four guys
were always having to chase down balls, and make miraculous catches of poorly
thrown balls. All the while Chip was starting we had a guy with some real 
talent sitting on the bench...Peter Tom Willis. This guy could throw. However,
Bowden left him on the bench until his senior year. What a waste. And behind
Willis was Weldon....another good qb who had to wait till his senior year to 
make an impact. And now, Ward...probly the best athelete at FSU...and is now
a junior. We only get two good years out of him. Bowden has got to be one of
the biggest wasters of talent around...and not only with qb's. We have a guy
here by the name of Marquette Smith. This guy was rated as the best HS rb in
the country...ahead of Faulk! And what's Bowden done with him...you guessed 
it...the bench. I could go on with the wasted talent on this team...but I
would just get in a bad mood.

Defense. Up until the last few years our defense has been pretty pourous. Yes,
Bowden did have a good D back in 79 and 80...but he lost the OB so who cares.

Kicking game. Here's the rub. For years we had one of the best kicking games
around...with kickers like Tuten, Capece...etc. However, when the NCAA made
the rule change for the number of coaches on the staff being reduced...who
do you think Bowden decided to get rid of...you got it...his kicker's coach.
We have all seen the results of that. Wide right. Wide right. Wide right.

The true measure of a "great" coach is his ability to put all of these three
elements together in a single package. When you do that you win championships.
Look at all the previous NC's...they almost all had well rounded teams. Until
Bowden can put it all together he will never win an NC...my guess is he cant
do it.

For those of you who want Bowden to come to your school...you can have him.
Someone posted that he had a chance to go to LSU to coach. Well, he wouldn't
have gone there. A few years ago (1980 or so I think) when Alabama was going
through coaching changes...Bowden had his fingers crossed that they would ask
him to come there (he's from Alabama). If they had asked...he was gone. 

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