From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:27:23 GMT
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In article <10583@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com>, Dr Peter Kittel Germany (peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com) wrote:
: You still have that carbon dioxide which causes the climate catastrophe.
: When remebering the last few years, the climate definitely has changed
: already. We hardly have winters here anymore, like we had 15 or 20 years
: ago. Thus also electricity is no solution either, as you have to produce

(same here)

: it in powerstations that a) produce masses of carbon dioxide either, or
: b) are nuclear and will transform the whole world into Tchernobyl area
: earlier or later.

In my opinion, CO2 is less of a problem than some of the many man-made
gases.  CO2 can be dealt with.  Reforestation is an extremely important
effort, in this wake.  The natural absorption of CO2 by plant life _CAN_
take care of that.

Plants don't eat CFC's.  :)

Some of the worst exhaust out of cars are some of the OTHER things.

: Well, put some photovoltaic photocells in the desert and use them to
: separate water into hydrogen and oxygen, transport the hydrogen via
: normal (gas) pipelines to the customers. It could be done *today*.

And watch all of the hydrogen leak out of your pipelines because it's too
light a gas.  Watch it pass through those pipes like a sieve.  :)

: Yes. There is only one big problem: storage. For a car, there are
: different ways to store such gas, as a fluid in a high-pressure tank
: or at very low temperatures (rather dangerous, but not so much more
: dangerous than current car gas); or as gas in metal-hydrid (sp?)
: storages. All these are very heavy and allow only for much lower
: transportation load. But when science finds a way here, then this is
: probably *the* solution.

Very likely.  Personally, I still have hope for anti-gravitons, but ah
well.  :D

: Hardly. As explained above, electricity pollutes in the end as much or
: even more!

It is easier to switch a single plant to solar/hydroelectric/hydrogen or
whatever than it is to switch 1,000,000 automobiles from gasoline to
whatever the newest fad is.  Electric cars would enable plants to make
use of the newest, most efficient technology, and allow the environment
to immediately benefit.

: You know perhaps that here in Germany we have new stricter laws about
: trash. And Commodore Germany was among the first companies that had a
: concept of how to deal properly with waste (defective, old) computers
: and monitors without causing pollution. We made a deal with a specialized
: company that can take care of these trash devices. - Though I don't
: know about our chip production.

That's what _I_'m curious about.  Is there someone in particular,
perhaps, that could be asked?  Who would know?  One of the LSI guys?

Greg


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