From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Bailing Out (rant) (was: Re: Freedom of Religion as well as everything else)
Date: 30 Aug 92 10:58:38 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <1992Aug28.182520.18567@csus.edu>, altheimm@nextnet.csus.edu (Murray
Altheim) writes:
>[a discussion on the merits/demerits of leaving a sinking ship...]

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>Einstein and Henry Miller (to cover the sciences and literature) could not
>have survived so they left. Miller was finally able to return to the US and
>publish here, but years later. If you are whitebread Amurikan, have a
>"I support Desert Storm" bumper sticker on your car, and follow the party
>line in terms of your actions and behaviour, you'll do fine here even if
>we become a completely fascist country. Just like in Germany in the 30's and
>40's. If you fit into the system, aOK. If you are part of Dan Quayle's 
>definition of "alternative lifestyle" (Black, gay, a woman with a brain, 
>a liberal, have long hair and an earring, a non-Christian, etc.) you have
>the choice to "fight" or to leave.

As a long-haired liberal with an earring who openly is a Pagan and has Gay and
Black friends, I suppose this includes me too... :)

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>But emotionally I can't survive in this environment forever. I hear and feel
>Janis' anger and empathise. This is hardly the only livable country on the
>planet. In fact, look at the ratings. We rank something like 13th in terms of
>access to health care, 20th in terms of education, etc. (I've got the numbers
>wrong, but we are not in the top ten in most areas.) While trying to find a
>job in a foreign country is difficult, it is my only ticket. Technical 
>positions are probably not much easier to land, as the field is flooded with
>layoffs from all the major players like Apple, IBM. I just hope that I can
>find one before the situation here or "there" gets too impossible.
>
>I'm generally a Tigger-like person, and it has become increasingly difficult
>to keep my "bounce". I've always been politically/socially motivated, and
>am tired of getting depressed every time I hear of a Supreme Court decision
>or George Bush speak. I can deal with a great deal, and try to "put on a
>happy face", but the well (and the Will) is not inexhaustable. I encourage
>anyone to leave an untenable situation, whether an abusive husband or an
>abusive government.

I don't know if I'm lucky because of the part of the country I'm in (Chicago)
or what, but I have yet to run into a lot of this fanactism that people have
been talking about.  (Although I did get fired from a "Student Supervisor"
position at a H.S., because <a> I listened to the students <b> was HONEST with
them <c> was close to their age (about 3 years difference between me and the
students) which caused rumors to start, when I didn't hide anything.  I was
fired when the rumors came back that I was a (gasp) PAGAN!  Had to keep the
school free from controversy, dispite the facts...)

But that kind of thing would have been bound to happen given a High School
enviornment, and me.  But I have yet to see anything resembling Hitler-Like
attitudes around me.

What parts of the country is this taking place in?  Anywhere besides
California, Washington (state), and Oregon?  (Yes, I know that is a hell of a
lot, and I want to fight that much, but I'm still wonder how widespread this
is.)  Quayle and Bush have been quoted a lot here in regards to the
hate-mongering, and I don't doubt it.  But I wonder what the sources are, so I
can get some people in my area stirred up against them?

This year I'm voting Libertarian.

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