From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.theory,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Death of America 3
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:53:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
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In a previous article, niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) says:

>
>Doesn't seem to have been much of a crash at all, really.  Five years
>later, the market is above where it was in 1987.


    Obviously, you have done countless research and know far better than I
   and as such, should follow your heart in your actions.

     I'll add you to my growing list of bankrupted acquaintances.

>
>>    And since:
>
>>       Berlin Wall.  Collapse of Russia.  Death camps in Bosnia.  Collapse
>>       of Japanese Market.  Collapse of Italian market.  Desert Storm. 
>>     Somalia.  Bejing.  A "recession" that defies understanding.  
>>     Riots across the United States.  Riots in Japan.  Riots in Mexico.
>>     Racist riots in Germany.  Riots in France and Ireland.  Belfast.
>>     A government deficit of truly unbelievable size. 
>>     The Islamic revival.  Mozambique.  Liberia.  Riots in Italy. 
>
>If you pick out lots of bad things and list them out of context, you can
>make anything sound bad.  Or, you could do the reverse.
>
>Arab-Israeli peace talks.  End of the Cold War.  More democracies than
>at any previous time in history.  Some successful United Nations actions
>for the first time.
>
>I mean, really.  Do you think any of the things you have listed are new?
>Do you think the world is in worse shape than it was during the 1930s?
>Or in more chaos than in the late 1960s?  And those are just from *this*
>century.  Do you think the US is worse off than during the 1860s?
>
>And why did you list "Berlin Wall?"  Is its collapse supposed to be a
>metaphor for society, or are you confused?  I thought the taking down of
>the Berlin Wall was a *good* thing.
>
>And while Desert Storm wasn't exactly all Bush cracked it up to be, I
>don't think it's a sign of armageddon, either.
>
>>     Last night I read "The Great Reckoning" Ress-Mogg & Davidson.
>>     It has confirmed several things I've figured out for myself.
>>      Are you aware of just how atypical 1945 to 1992 was?  
>
>All periods of time are atypical.
>
>>      Is any of this getting through?
>>      Hello!?
>
>>>   any of Michael Cusamano's (MIT) research.    And learn to deal
>>>   with it.   According to him there is likely to be massive un-
>>>   employment among US programmers by the end of the decade. 
>           
>>>   I'm leaving for Tahiti in a few days.   But next year this time
>>>   I and plenty of other programmers might end up with jobs where we
>>>   have to ask "paper or plastic?" or "do you want fries with that?".
>>>   But this is no different than steelworkers or TV assemblers who
>>>   had to do the same thing in the past.   It's not the end of the
>>>   world, or the US.  
>
>>>>      I feel ill.  The entire upper echelon is so out-to-lunch, I just
>>>>   can't believe it.  
>
>>>   As long as they eat lunch at my McDonald's.
>
>Just remember to McRecycle, as they call it.
>
>-- 
>David M. Nieporent   | Is it too early to start making predictions for 1993?
>niepornt@phoenix.    | Probably, but that never stopped me before.
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