From: pwork@afit.af.mil (Paul R. Work)
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Subject: Re: Game auction (Dave's games)
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:00:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: afit.1992Nov9.170011.14668
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology


Howdy Y'all,

    Postage for additional games will be about $1 per additional boxed,
and $0.75 per additional bagged game or magazine.

>    Beginning with the 5th of November, I can no longer take new group
>bids.  Existing group bids are frozen as is and can be either bid on as
>per previously explained (see below), or removed entirely.  

>    It has been pointed out that several of the Conflict magazines
>originally came with two games each.  With one exception, these games
>have been combined with the appropriate magazine.  

>    I expect mailing costs to be $3 per boxed game, $2 per magazine
>(with or without game), $2 per bagged game in a mailing box (9x12), and
>$1.50 per bagged game.  If you want counter trays, they can be added for
>$2.25 ea, and mailing boxes (again, 9x12 with a lid) are $0.75 ea.

>    There is a correction to the listing for Conflict #4.  It should
>have the counters to the game NORAD, not NATO.  I understand that the
>rules for the game were printed on the map, which is not available.

>>    Beginning with the next update, I will only list the top two bids
>>for a particular game/mag/group.  I will keep a record of all offers,
>>but only post the top two.

>>    I cannot guarantee that all the counters are in those games that
>>have at least some of the counters punched.  I can say that the games
>>look as though they have been well cared for.  Virtually all games have
>>several blank counters in case something should turn up missing.  At
>>some future point, I can check some of the bagged games for counter
>>numbers, since most rules list how many counters should be present.  One
>>game (I can't remember which) has 1 blank counter that has been used
>>(written on) apparently to replace a missing counter.

>>>New bids are welcome until the 20th of November at which time the
>>>auction will close to new bids.  

>>>    Existing bids may be continue to be updated until all but one person
>>>has dropped out.  If there is no update on a game for 72 hours (after
>>>the closing to new bids), that game will be closed out and considered
>>>closed to the high bidder.

>>>    Several people have identified groups of games that they are
>>>interested in and made an offer on the entire group of games.  In such
>>>cases, they are competing against the other individuals who are
>>>interested in the individual games.  If the total of the individual
>>>offers is more than the group offer, the individuals will get the games.
>>>Otherwise the person who made the highest group offer gets the entire
>>>group.  Anyone is welcome to make an offer on any identified group as a
>>>whole as well as on individual games.  

>>>    Please keep all bids to whole dollar bids only.  If I receive any
>>>bid with a fractional amount, the fractional amount will be truncated,
>>>and the bid will be treated as the whole dollar bid only.  

>>>    There are also some new games that Dave had not included in his
>>>original list.  Be sure to look for them!  Thanks very much,

>>>    When I list the condition of a game, I am using the following
>>>conventions:
 
>>>    mint:              mint
>>>    exc:               excellent
>>>    cond:              condition
>>>    mostly punched:    much more than 50% of the counters have been
>>>       (mp)               punched, a fair number remain unpunched
>>>    partly punched:    Approximately 50% of the counters have been
>>>       (pp)               punched
>>>    mostly unpunched:  Much less than 50% of the counters have been
>>>       (mup)           punched
>>>    (c)                prev. bid has been conf. (after Nov 5 1:00 PM EST)
>>>    (n)                new bid since Nov 5 1:00 PM EST

>>>Have fun!

    -Paul

Bookcase sized boxed games:                  previous offers

    Command Series Games (Rand)    (set) $ 85 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
       Vol 1   vg cond (punched)           75 larryn@col.hp.com (c) 
           (box has a few creases)         
         Gettysburg (Lee vs Meade)        
         Saratoga: 1777 (Burgoyne vs Gates
         Invasion:  Sicily (Alexander vs Kesselring)
         Napoleon's Last Campaign
         Cambrai, 1917 The First Blitzkrieg
         Missile Boat
         Omaha Beach
         War of the World II
         Rommel: The War for North Africa
       Vol 2   vg cond (punched)           
         Hitler's Last Gamble (The Battle of the Bulge)
         Brandy Station (Clash of Cavalry)

    Conquistador (AH)                    $ 27 bret@ileaf.com
       mint cond (unp)                      6 seidl@soda.berkeley.edu 

    Fire Fight (SPI)                     $  7 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
         exc cond (mostly punched)          5 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)

    Fulda Gap (SPI)                      $ 15 Donald@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca 
        vg cond (punched)                  12 heilman@BRL.MIL 

    MechWar 2 (two games, one box) (SPI) $ 16 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
        Red Star/White Star                11 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        Suez to Golan                      
            map/counters exc cond.        
            (mostly unpunched)              
            box split at 2 corners, 
            repaired with tape

    NATO Division Commander (SPI)        $ 35 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
        exc to mint cond                   32 out@cs.utwente.nl (n) 
        (mostly unpunched!)                

    Origins of WW II (AH)                $  7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       good to vg cond (punched)            7 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)

    The Next War (SPI)                   $ 45 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        exc cond (mostly unpunched!)       15 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com 

   *War Between the States (SPI)         *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        exc cond (2 trays)               $ 53 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
        (mostly punched)                   

Box games (larger than bookcase size)

   *1914 (AH)                            *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        good to vg cond (punched)        $ 27 wilson@cssmtf.ccs.csus.edu (c)

    Barbarossa (SPI)                     $  8 parkhill@planet8.sp.paramax.com 
        (The Russo-German War 1941-1945)
        vg cond (punched)

    Breakout & Pursuit (SPI)             $ 15 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        (The Battle for France 1944)        5 sos@oz.plymouth.edu 
        good cond (punched)

    Grenadier (SPI)                      $ 12 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
        (Tactical Warfare 1680-1850)       12 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
        good cond (punched)                

    Normandy (SPI)                       $ 15 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        (The Invasion of Europe 1944)       4 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
        vg cond (punched)                   

   *Rifle & Saber (SPI)                  *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (Tactical Combat 1850-1900)      $ 21 sos@oz.plymouth.edu 
        exc cond (punched)                 
                                          

    The Marne (SPI)                      $ 25 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
        (Home Before the Leaves Fall..)    23 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
        vg (punched)                       

Tray games

   *1812 (SPI)                           *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (The Campaign of Napoleon        $ 33 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
            in Russia)                     
        vg cond (punched)                  

    Cobra (SPI)                          $ 11 pokey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (n)
        (Patton's 1944 Summer               9 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
           Offensive in France)             
        exc cond (punched)                 

    Descent on Crete (SPI)               $ 30 hobie%zooid@mail.uunet.ca 
       (May 1941)                          27 seningen@ross.com 
       exc cond (mostly punched)           

    El Alamein (SPI)                     $ 23 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
       exc cond (punched)                  17 seningen@ross

    Global War (SPI)                     $ 22 lang@hpgtdlp.fc.hp.com (n)
        (The War Against Germany and       20 kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (n) 
         Japan 1939-1945)                  
        Global War (SPI)                   
        vg cond (punched)                  

    Invasion America (SPI)               $ 35 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
        (Death Throes of the Superpower)   35 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
        vg cond (punched)                  

    Island War (4 games) (SPI)           $ 30 Donald@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (n)
        (Four Pacific Battles)             20 brian@pocc.gssc.nasa.gov (tie)
          Bloody Ridge (Guadalcanal)       
          Saipan (Marianas)                
          Leyte (Ret to the Phillipines)   
          Okinawa                          
       exc cond (punched)                  

    Korea (SPI)                          $ 15 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
        (The Mobile War 1950-1951)         12 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)
        (w/letter to/fr SPI w/ q/a)        
        vg cond (punched)                  

    MechWar 77 (tactical) (SPI)          $  7 jayhawk@cygni.att.com (n)
        (Four Contemporary Conflicts)       6 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
        exc cond (punched)                  

    Modern Battles (4 games) (SPI)       $ 45 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        (Four Contemporary Conflicts)      13 kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
          Chinese Farm (Egypt-Israel '73)   
          Golan (Syria-Israel '73)          
          Wurzburg (Soviet-Amer '70s)       
          Mukden (Sino-Soviet '70s)         
        vg cond (punched)

    NATO (SPI)                           $  3 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
        exc cond (punched)                  3 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    October War (SPI)                    $ 10 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
        (Tactical Armored Combat in the     6 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
          Yom Kippur Conflict Oct '73)      
        exc cond (punched)               

    Red Star/White Star (SPI)            $ 25 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
        exc cond (punched)                 20 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu

    Sinai (SPI)                          $  9 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)
        (w/ letter to/from SPI              8 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
            w/ quest/ans                    
        vg cond (punched)

    Seelowe (Sea Lion) (SPI)             $ 25 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
        (The German Invasion of            23 wilson@cssmtf.csus.edu (n)
           Britain 1940)                   
        vg cond (punched)                   

    Sniper (SPI)                         $  6 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
        (House to house fighting WW2)       5 rferrel@ecst.csuchico.edu (n)
        vg cond (punched)                   

    Sorcerer (SPI)                       $ 13 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
        vg cond (punched)                  11 seidl@soda.berkeley.edu 

   *Terrible Swift Sword (SPI)           *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (Gettysburg)                     $ 40 wimple@vulcan.decnet 
        (3 sheets of unp. str. cntrs)      
        exc cond (partly punched)          

    To the Green Fields Beyond (SPI)     $ 55 larryn@col.hp.com (c)
        (The Battle of Cambrai 1917)       30 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
        exc cond (punched)                 

   *Wacht Am Rhein (SPI)                 *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (Battle of the Bulge)            $ 77 out@cs.utwente.nl 
        exc cond (mostly punched)          

  **War in the East (SPI)                **   cdf1@psuvm.psu.edu    
        vg cond (punched)                  40 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)

  **War in the West (SPI)                **   cdf1@psuvm.psu.edu    
        (WW2 in Western Europe '39-'45)    36 CLF@eclx.psu.edu (n) 
        exc cond (partly punched)          

    War of the Ring (SPI)                $ 75 awolanow@us.oracle.com (n)
        board game w/characters and        65 sap@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (n)
          Gandalf, Frodo, etc              
        mint cond! (unpunched)             
            (1 or 2 counters in            
               tray bins)                  

    WW3 (SPI)                            $ 15 kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
        (w/ lett to/from SPI                2 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
           w/ quest/answ on game)
        exc cond (punched)

   *Wilderness Campaign (SPI)            *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (Lee vs Grant)                   $ 10 brian@pocc.gssc.nasa.gov 
        w/ lett to/from SPI                10 jmyers@hydra.unm.edu 
           w/ quest/answ on game            
        vg cond (punched)                   

Bagged games (I can get trays for these at $2.25 per tray)
    (I can get some generic mailing boxes, 9x12, as well, $0.75 ea)
    each game has at least a 9x12 manila folder for the rules and cntrs 
    I'll be able to furnish more detail about these games later
      (hopefully by Thursday)

    Attack of the Mutants (Yaquinto)     $  3 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        unpunched                           2 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)

    1918 (SPI)                           $ 24 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
        good cond (punched)                19 larryn@col.hp.com (c)

    Lord of the Rings (2 mini-games)     $ 25 awolanow@oracle.com 
       The Siege of Minas Tirith            7 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
       Battle of the Slag Hills             
       (contains the mini-games ONLY)       
     (does NOT include War of the Ring!)    

    Napolean at Waterloo (old version)   $  8 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (with advanced expansion)           7 blum@ils.nwu.edu   
        (punched)

    Napolean at Waterloo (new version)   $  6 jayhawk@cygni.att.com
        (unpunched)

   *Napolean at Waterloo (new version)   *    pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
        (unpunched)                         5 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
        (yes, there's 3 copies of this!)    

    Strategy 1 (SPI)                     $ 18 parkhill@planet8.sp.paramax.com 
        poor cond (punched)                16 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)

    USN (SPI)                            $ 16 mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (n)
       (original rules missing)            10 rchase@nyx.cs.du.edu 
       (xerox copy of rules included)       

    Battle of HUE (Conflict Sim)         $ 10 edandavi@well.sf.ca.us 
       good cond (punched)                  8 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com 

Magazines (with games)

    Conflict #5 Nomonhan 1939            $ 28 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
       (includes the game Khalkhin Gol)    25 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
       good cond (punched)                  
       (also incl. cntrs to "BEF            
           Expansion to `France 1940'"      
        (cntrs only, no map, no rules)

    Conflict #6 (1973) War in Indochina  $ 25 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
       (includes the game Dien Bien Phu)   10 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com 

    Conflict #7 (1974) Civil War Special $ 31 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. the game Rifle and Musket)   30 jrtracy@sbcoc.com 
       good cond (punched)                 
       (also incl. the game "Alamo"         

    S&T  #31  War in the Air             $ 17 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
       (incl. the game Flying Circus)      16 larryn@col.hp.com (n)

    S&T  #32  Napoleon at War            $  9 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
       (incl. the game Borodino)            8 jsk52145@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
        good cond (punched)                 

    S&T  #33  Winter War                 $ 15 jmyers@hydra.unm.edu  
       (incl. the game Winter War)         12 edandavi@well.sf.ca.us 

    S&T  #34  Armageddon                 $ 17 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
       (incl. the game Armageddon)         17 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

    S&T  #35  Year of the Rat, 'Nam '72 $  10 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Year of the Rat)     7 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
 
    S&T  #36  Dest. of Army Group Center $ 20 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Destruction of      19 parkhill@planet8.sp.parax.com (n)
                  Army Group Center)       

    S&T  #37  Ardennes/Scrimmage         $  7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Scrimmage)           7 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)

    S&T  #40  Panz. Armee Afrika         $ 10 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)  
       (incl. the game Panz Armee Afrika)   7 seningen@ross.com 

    S&T  #42  The East is Red            $  8 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game East is Red)         7 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)

    S&T  #43  The American Civil War     $  7 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game The Amer. Civ War)   5 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)

    S&T  #44  Tank!                      $ 12 heilman@BRL.MIL 
       (incl. the game Tank!)               5 parkhill@planet8.sp.paramax.com 
      (plus expanded rules)                 
      (punched)                             

    S&T  #45  Oper. Oly. (Inv. of Jap.)  $ 11 hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (n)
       (incl. the game Operation Olympic)  10 wimple@csus.edu

    S&T  #46  Combined Arms              $  8 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game Combined Arms)       8 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    S&T  #49  Frederick the Great        $ 20 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game Fred. the Great)    17 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    S&T  #50  Battle for Germany         $ 19 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
       (incl. the game Battle for Germ.)   17 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

    S&T  #51  World War 1 1914-1918      $ 17 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game World War 1)        15 larryn@col.hp.com (n)
       (top corner of cover has rip)       

    S&T  #52  Oil War                    $  7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Oil War)             7 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       vg cond (punched)                    

    S&T  #53  The Punic Wars             $ 20 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game Punic Wars)         16 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    S&T  #54  Westwall (4 Battles to Germ.) 7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Dixie)               5 jayhawk@cygni.att.com 

    S&T  #55  Thirty Years War           $ 16 sos@oz.plymouth.edu 
       (incl. the game Breitenfield)       11 jsk52145@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 

    S&T  #56  Revolt in the East         $ 14 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Rev. in the East)   12 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com 

    S&T  #57  Panzergruppe Guderian      $ 17 GREGORY_B@gold.colorado.edu (n) 
       (incl. the game Panz Gr. Guder.     15 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu

    S&T  #58  Conquistador               $  7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Conquistador)        7 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)
         exc cond (punched)                 

    S&T  #59  The Plot to Ass. Hitler(p) $  7 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
       (incl. the game The Plot to Ass.     5 ksoutor@unlinfo.unl.edu (n)
                       Hitler)              
       exc cond (punched)                   

    S&T  #60  Road to Richmond           $  9 hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (n)
       (incl. the game Road to Richmond)    7 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)
          (The Peninsular Camp. 1862)       
                  (punched)                 

    S&T  #76  The China War (unp)        $  6 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game The China War)       4 jlankford@nrtc.northrop.com (n)

    S&T  #76  The China War (unp)        $  4 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)
       (incl. the game The China War)       4 jpl@charming.nrtc.northrop.com (n)

    S&T  #76  The China War              $  5 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)
       (incl. the game The China War)       2 civl222@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (n)

    S&T  #77  Paratroop (pp)             $  8 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
              (Three Great Airborne Ass)    7 jayhawk@cygni.att.com (n)
               Eben Emael (Belgium 1940)    7 rferrel@ecst.csuchico.edu (n)
               Crete (May 1941)             
               Red Devils (Sep 1944)        

    S&T  #78  Patton's 3rd Army (unp)    $  7 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Patton's 3rd Army,   6 jayhawk@cygni.att.com (n)
              The Lorraine Campaign)        6 blum@ils.nwu.edu (n)
         mint cond                          6 maddog@ecn.purdue.edu (n)

    S&T  #79  Berlin '85 (unp)           $ 10 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. the game Berlin '85,          4 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)      
           The Enemy at the Gates)         

    S&T  #80  Wilson's Creek (unp)       $ 10 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca (n)
       (incl. the game Wilson's Creek,     10 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
            The West's First Battle)        

Magazines (without games)

    Conflict #4 (1973) Soviet Air Power
      (incl. counters for the game NORAD)
      (no map or rules avail.)

    Moves # 2 The Battle of Stalingrad   $ 10 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
                                            2 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)

    Moves #29 (Oct/Nov 1976)             $  2 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
                
    S&T  #38  `CA' WW2 Pac Nav. Warf     $  5 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
      (incl. cntrs, no rules, no map)       3 out@cs.utwente.nl 

    S&T  #39  Fall of Rome               $  5 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
      (incl. rules and map, no cntrs)       4 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (n)

    S&T  #41  Mech. Warf.:  Exp. & Exp.  $  4 lang@hpgtdlp.fc.hp.com (n)
                                            3 out@cs.utwente.nl 

    S&T  #47  Wolfpack                   $  5 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
       (incl. cntrs, no rules, no map)      4 lang@hpgtdlp.fc.hp.com (n)

    S&T  #48  Sixth Fleet                $  5 jrtracy@il.us.swissbank.com (n)
       (incl. cntrs & rules, no map)        4 lang@hpgtdlp.fc.hp.com (n)

    S&T  #61  October War (Yom Kip 73)   $  5 lamberdl@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (n)
                                            3 out@cs.utwente.nl 

    S&T  #75  Napoleon's Art of War      $  4 out@cs.utwente.nl (n)
       (incl. map, no cntrs, no rules)      

* Group 1:  $ 233 (combination of best individual offers)
            $ 265 pete@chem.UCSD.EDU (pwotruba@ucsd.edu)

    > Napolean at Waterloo                  5 webber@gbm.ocunix.on.ca
    > Rifle & Saber                        21 sos@oz.plymouth.edu 
    > Terrible Swift Sword (Gettysburg)    40 wimple@vulcan.decnet 
    > Wacht Am Rhein (Battle of Bulge)     77 out@cs.utwente.nl  
    > War Between the States               53 sew@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com (n)
    > Wilderness Campaign                  10 brian@pocc.gssc.nasa.gov 
    > 1914                                 27 wilson@cssmtf.ccs.csus.edu 

End of Group 1

** Group 2 $ 90 cdf1@psuvm.psu.edu    
             76 (combination of best individual bids)

    > War in the East                      40 scannell@bubba.ma30.bull.com (n)
    > War in the West                      36 CLF@eclx.psu.edu (n) 

End of Group 2