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From: sorrell@triton.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Do all CD changers skip?
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:20:54 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

A brand new Sony CD changer, a CDX-U300, displayed a very bothersome 
skip about every 20 or 30 seconds even while resting on a lab bench.  

This has destroyed my faith in magazine advertising and I have had 
to increase my medication dose.   

Is this defect to be expected of all mobile CD changers?  Has anyone 
had a better experience with the Sony unit?  Will I ever attain that 
awesome perfection of sound everyone else seems to enjoy?  

I would appreciate hearing of any experiences with CD changers, in 
particular tendencies to skip.  

Stan   i.e. Stan Orrell    sorrell@triton.unm.edu  
Artificial intelligence appears to be our only hope.
From: desmondw@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Risks of buying through mail-order?
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:20:28 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <15510@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, cccsims@othello.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims) writes:
> 
> 
>   What have been people experiences with mail-order products? You can get
> Boston Accoustics 5.2 Pro speakers for 256$!!!!  How big of risk are these
> companies?  Is not getting the warranty on speakers that risky (atleast not
> getting the factory warranty)? 

     What is the name of this place where you are buying these from? I
know I wouldn't trust a mail order company. I know certain ones to
stay away from(basically all in Stereo Review magazine). And $256
for a pair of Ba 5.2 pros isn't all that great. I seen them on sale
a month ago at a store near me for $289. True thats $33 more but at
least if you have a problem with them, you can drive to the store and
talk to a human being about it and have them listen to them. Plus, these
mail order companies always are blaming the installers for the broken
equipment. If these speakers were defective or factory serviced(aka ready
to break at any time soon), They would say the place you had them installed
were at fault and not who you bought them from. My advice would be look
around, wait for a sale, and go for it. Try the want ads. If you're
willing to buy from these scam joints, at least try them. 99% of the
time you can listen to the equipment a person is selling before
buying it and make your own judgement. Ask the person when he bought
them, where, and why he is getting rid of them. You just might be
surprised!
From: cjm9321@hertz.njit.edu (The InfoMan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Need A system for 92 Civic Sedan
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:37:11 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BruMsx.7CJ@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mwbenne@lambert.waterloo.edu writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>  I need a stereo for my new car.  The dealer wanted to put 
>a Toshiba in it for about $300 but that didn't seem like such
>a hot deal.  
>
>  Basically I want a 4 speaker system with a good tape deck in the 
>dash with a CD changer in the trunk.
>
>  I'd like to solicit recommendations for:
>
>    front speakers,
>    rear speakers,
>    tape decks,
>    CD changers
>
>  The system should cost at most $1500.  I'd really like to spend only $1000
>but will be flexible if I find something really great.
>
>  I'll post a summery if there is sufficient response.
>
>Thanks,
>...Markus

	As far as the CD changer,

	I would go with Sony UniLink or the Kenwood

	Probably the Sony XR-U550 and the CDX-U300
or the       Kenwood KRC-740 and the KDC-C600

	But you should look at the right tuner you want,
	For the changers I would only go for those two.
	They are both 10 disc.

	And it will be a total of <$800


						Later,

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Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:42:45 -0400 
From: Amit Likhyani <al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: My trunk

Here is my situation:

    I have a large sealed box behind my rear seats whicih holds 2 Kicker
C-10's.

    A PPI 4100AM is my 1 amplifier bridged mono in the rear drving 2 8 ohm
subs in parallel.  The front channel is running a Quart 215CX and Nak SP-50
in parallel for a 2 ohm load in the front as well as in the rear.  It sounds
great.

    A Sony XEC-1000 is my crossover.

I have the following installation options which all have their disadvantages:

1) the Amps on the back of the box syndrome.  Problem: I lose 3 to 4 inches
off my trunk.

2) Under the trunk in the spare tire well.  Problem: I want to keep my spare
accessible.  I also want to put jumper cables and a jack along with some
little tools down there.

3) My crossover, Power Distribution block for power and ground along with
a hidden relay for my remote turn on stuff.  The front would be covered with
plexiglass with holes drilled to turn the level controls.  Holes would
be drilled to assure proper ventilation.

    On the other side, I would put the amp with the plexiglass front and 
fans to keep it cool.  

    Problem:  I lose some trunk space which is pretty much useless anyway, 
but the bigger problem is that I will be running 6 foot RCA cables from
one side of the trunk to the other along with power wire and ground.  This
will be the most difficult installation although the best looking if it
works.

To give an idea, I have not insalled the Sony crossover yet.  I have a
Pyramid CR-74 right now and still get no engine noise.  My biggest
concern
is that the longer RCA lines will introduce engine noise.  Right now
everything is in the spare tire well.  I would have to build a new board
no matter much since the Sony crossover is significantly bigger than the
Pyramid and would not fit.  So what would all of you do?

If you have any tips on making panels in the sides of the trunk, please pass
them on.

Thanks,
Mit
From: mross@mcigate.apdev.mci.com (Marty_Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Bazooka subwoofer querry
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:54:24 GMT
Organization: MCI


In article <20JUL199213395869@sigma.tamu.edu> rkb6116@sigma.tamu.edu (Mr. Weather) writes:
>I'm seeking personal opinions on Bazooka subwoofers (the non-self-powered kind).
>Are they any good, or does it depend on the application?  I'd be putting them
>in an extended cab full size pickup.
>
>thanks
>
>Mr. Weather <> aka Ken Blair <> rkb6116@zeus.tamu.edu <> Aggieland USA

Well. I'm on my second set (first ones were 6 1/2" and got stollen :^()
I replaced them with the 8" ones and they sound just fantastic!  Don't worry
about getting high quality amps as long as you're only pumping ~150hz or
below (through a crossover of some kind).  I have a full size Bronco and use
a 100x2 amp to power them.  Any more than half volume and you get bumped out
of your seat.  They also seam to 'clean up' your normal speakers.

You may want to consider one of a self-powered speakers with the crossover 
built in for your P.U.  The smaller the space, the smaller the bass!  You
may not need that second speaker to get things pumping.


-- 

    "Nothing is over until WE say it is.  Was it over when the
     Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  NO!  And it aint over now."
                                 - Bluto (Animal House)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: mwbenne@lambert.waterloo.edu ()
Subject: Need A system for 92 Civic Sedan
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:53:21 GMT


Hi,

  I need a stereo for my new car.  The dealer wanted to put 
a Toshiba in it for about $300 but that didn't seem like such
a hot deal.  

  Basically I want a 4 speaker system with a good tape deck in the 
dash with a CD changer in the trunk.

  I'd like to solicit recommendations for:

    front speakers,
    rear speakers,
    tape decks,
    CD changers

  The system should cost at most $1500.  I'd really like to spend only $1000
but will be flexible if I find something really great.

  I'll post a summery if there is sufficient response.

Thanks,
...Markus
From: rslau@usc.edu (Robert Lau)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: ADS Plate Speakers Installation
Date: 28 Jul 1992 12:56:37 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: tarazed.usc.edu
In-reply-to: rvn@icd.teradyne.com's message of 23 Jul 92 15:16:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.151618.16688@icd.teradyne.com> rvn@icd.teradyne.com (Rafael Vidaillet) writes:

   I was thinking of separating the drivers into two boxes and placing
   each one in a separate box, this way I can arrange things better in my
   hatch.  Will they still sound as good?  Or is having them together in
   the same enclousure help? Does the shape of the enclousure matter?

Should be OK as long as each gets its own properly sized enclosure.
I'm giving each plate (not driver) 2.5 - 3 liters in a tuned enclosure.
That's about all the room I can squeeze out of my front doors.

   Another thing I would like to know is if I wired them right.  These
   drivers are rated at 100W rms each.

They're rated 50 watts each driver, 100 watts per plate, continuous.

   Right now I got them wired in series with two 25W channels bridged
   (this is in my 4 channel Alpine amp -I dont' remember the model #-),
   which I guess will give me a little over 50W, into an 8ohm load.  Are
   loads this big OK for car amps?

If the amp was rated 25w at 4 ohms, then it'll put out less, around half,
when driving an 8 ohm load.  Bridging two channels brings the total power
back up to around 25w total.  You should run each driver on its own channel.

   Would wiring them in parallel (2ohm load), be better for my amp? Given
   the power I have right now would getting a bigger amp give me more
   sound/be worth it?  I know that in order to double sound one has to
   much more than double power....

I don't know the specs for your Alpine amp so I can't say how much more
power it would put out with a 2 ohm load...  All I can say is that running
at a lower impedence makes the amp work 'harder', generates more heat,
reduces its damping ability, etc.  But this would free up another channel,
for another 6.2 perhaps :)   As for more power, I'm running 2 6.2's off a
PH-15, 50 wpc.  That's about all they need.

   Also I remember reading about some filling that can be used in the
   box, to make it seem %10 larger to the driver.  Can anyone remind me
   what was it and were to get it...

Others have already answered...  use Polyfill.  Fabrics shops, Crutchfield,
misc hardware stores.

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   | Rafael Vidaillet--MS: H71|   Internet:  rvn@dewey.icd.teradyne.com   |

Ditto!  ;^)

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From: jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Bazooka vs. sub+separate enclosure
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:47:57 GMT
Organization: US West Information Technologies, Denver

In article <64236@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0851b@prism.gatech.EDU (David Hoff) writes:

[ much stuff deleted ]

>give it about 100 watts of totally clean power.  The left and right out
>puts of need caps. on them to prevent bass from going to your full range
>or front speakers.  They will be getting 50 watts each. Quarts sound
							 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>the best if you don't have any yet.  
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

sorry - i just could not let this one slide by.  to each their own.  trying
to tell someone that 'razzafrazza seperates sound absolutely the best' is
sorta like the 'less filling / tastes great' stuff.

personally i find the quart tweeters very harsh and offending.  but then i
really don't care for hard dome tweeters.  my preference is a nice soft dome,
which doesn't pierce my eardrums with cymbal crashes.  

please insert as many :-)'s as necessary...

#define	MyHumbleOpinion "soundstream 511's kick the snot outta quart" 

cheers, 
-- 
John Salmi		<jsalmi@uswest.com>		(303) 595-2863

"I've got a news flash for you, joy-boy...  Party Time's Over!!"
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: curtis@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Jeffrey S. Curtis)
Subject: Re: Bazooka subwoofer querry
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:53:07 GMT

In article <13178@pogo.wv.tek.com>, Mark Bishop writes:
}In article <20JUL199213395869@sigma.tamu.edu>, Mr. Weather writes:
}|> I'm seeking personal opinions on Bazooka subwoofers (the non-self-powered kind).
}|> Are they any good, or does it depend on the application?  I'd be putting them
}|> in an extended cab full size pickup.
}
}Same question with the addition: How do you mount the tubes? Facing toward
}the wall or straight out? How much power do you need for the 6 1/2 vs the
}8 inch tubes?

I use a Sennet SC-80 sub - it's self-powered (internal 100 watt amp with
crossover and selectable crossover frequency - all for $99 :-) ), but I
can at least answer your question.  I tried about 8 different configurations
in my car (a regular sedan) and found that what works the best for my needs
is to mount the sub in the back seat, with the driver facing into the rear
of the driver's seat (about 3" away).  That way, you not only hear the bass,
but it uses your body as a sounding board, so you *feel* it fully.  Some
other things I tried: in trunk facing into car (too quiet); in trunk facing
side of car (too quiet, rattled); in trunk facing rear of car (too quiet);
in center of back seat facing front of car (massive distortion - no
sounding board); snuggled on floor between rear seat and driver's seat,
facing side of car (mediocre, still distorted); directly behind driver's
seat, facing rear of car (good, but a tad quieter and less feel than
facing front of car).

Hope this helps.

Jeff
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From: macman+@pitt.edu (Dennis H Lippert)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Stock rear speakers intentionally weak??
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:27:17 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <84@newave.mn.org> john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes:

>When I ran a stereo shop back in the late 1970's and early 80's, there
>was a new Federal Trade Commission law that required car dealers to, upon
>request by a buyer, remove the factory audio system and credit the list
>price of the radio equipment.  This law also required all cars to be
>equiped with an electrical plug for a radio even if a radio was not an
>option in that car.

Ok, maybe that's true, but I'd rather pay the $500 to keep my car out of
the mechanics' hands as long as possible :-).
\
-Den
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From: dkw00@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: >>>>> CARAUDIO SYSTEM - CD/DECK/AMP/TUNER <<<<<[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[Forsale CD changer - Amp - Deck/tuner <<<<<
Date: 26 Jul 92 07:32:01 GMT
Reply-To: dkw00@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

SOUNDSTREAM - car audio system 

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  - Top of the line 
  - Tuner ,Casette 
  - Pullout
  - CD input 
  - Dolby B/C
  - Preamp
  - AutoReverse
  - Music Search 
  - Removable Handle 
  - Orginal purchase price $550.00
  - Asking $250.00/obo + shipping.

Soundstream D200 Amp (2 units)
  - 1 unit is brand new, 1 unit is 4 months old
  - 100w/ch X 2, 20Hz - 20kHz into 4 ohms
  - 100w/ch X 2, 20Hz - 20kHz into 2 ohms
  - 200 watts mono, 20Hz - 20kHz into 4 ohms
  - 140 w/ch X 2, 20Hz-20kHz into 2 ohms
  - 240 watts mono, 20Hz-20kHz into 4 ohms
  - Total Harmonic Distortion < 0.1%, 20Hz-20kHz at full rated power into 4 ohms
  - S/N Ratio: 110dB
  - Damping Factor: > 200
  - Input Impedance: 10K
  - Idle current Draw: 1.2 Amps
  - Maximum Current Draw: 26 Amps
  - Dimensions: 11"W x 7.8"D x 2.13"H
  - Orginal purchase price $579.00 each 
  - Asking $325.00/obo each. 
 

Concord 12-disc CD changer
  - LED Display does not work
  - All other functionalites work great 
  - 12 dics capacity
  - Include control unit
  - Wireless Remote Control
  - Audio Control, Bass and Treble control
  - Can be used to drive existing Tuner/Casette Deck
  - Programable play mode
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From: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: IS A COUSTIC 260 WORTH $1
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:28:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 

  Dude man,  you got jipped.  That Coustic isn't worth crap.  Was it
new, used, either way, it shouldn't cost you more than $60 if it was
used.  My friend went through 3 COUSTIC amps, and they all blew.  I know
many people who have had Coustic's and they've blown.  Sorry to say, you
got a crumby amp.  Try something like Alpine, Orion, A/D/S, PHOENIX
GOLD, or something like that.

  Erich Lim
    erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us
From: tpremo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Todd Premo)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: PPI ProMos 12 amplifer  How can it do that?
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:27:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I recently looked into using the ProMos 12 amp to run my entire system.
The salesman that I was talking to suggested that I drive it to 1 ohm 
and I asked if that wouldn't greatly lessen the dampening factor of the
amp.  He replied: PPI has found a way around that.  The amp never sees
less than an eight ohm load.  This is believable- many companies do this.
My question is how they get the increase in power output if the amp still 
sees an eight ohm load?
	He said that I could drive two 4ohm seperates and a pair of subs 
wired in parrallel in mixed mono and get 50 watts to the seperates and 
96 watts to the subs.

	Is this amp for real?

	Does anybody know where you can get this amp for a good price?

	Thanks, 

	Todd
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Subject: Weather & Dust resistant stereo
Reply-To: DEVILBISS@OCTAVE.LARC.NASA.GOV (Zaphod Beeblebrox)
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:29:14 GMT

Im looking into upgrading the stereo in my Jeep Wrangler Convertible.  
Recently I managed to leave the top down during a rather hard rain and the 
stock stereo got just a little bit wet.  Id like to get something that is a 
little more robust (water & dust resistant).  Marine application stereos came 
to mind.  I have also seen a stereo with a yellow face that advertised weather 
& dust resistance but I cant remember who sold it.  Some kind of theft 
resistance (removable chassis or removable face plate??) would be useful since 
I have no locks.

Any suggestions via E-Mail . . . Thanks . . . Dave

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From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: is a COUSTIC 260 worth $150.00
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:16:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Jul21.192125.13044@Cadence.COM> syoung@Cadence.COM (Scott Young) writes:
> what's a coustic 260 worth?

I paid 170 for mine last year - new.

-andy
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From: rvn@icd.teradyne.com (Rafael Vidaillet)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: ADS Plate Speaker Installation II
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:05:38 GMT
Reply-To: rvn@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA


	I called ADS and they told me the 6.2 plate speakers were designed
to work in infinite baffle. Which I guess just means that as long as
the front air does not meet the rear air, the speakers should sound
just fine...  The only way I can do this in my car is mounting them
on the rear deck, but that would make them visible and I don't want
that since Boston is not safe for car stereos...  I can always leave them
in the enclousure and say goodbye to space in the 'trunk' :-(...
Is there any other way of installing these speakers.  I have seen intallations
were the drivers were attached to the back of the rear seats, what good
does that do?  Any other ideas on how to do this?



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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: phil@Turing.ORG (Phil Davis)
Subject: Forsale PIONEER KEH 6070 TQR Removable
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:23:17 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,misc.forsale,chv.general,uva.general,dc.forsale
Subject: PIONEER KEH 6070 REMOVABLE CAR STEREO
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Keywords: car stereo forsale


Forsale Pioneer KEH 6070 removable car stereo

	This unit was the top of the line Pioneer a   
	couple of years ago. It features:
	
	Auto reverse      Automatic music scan    
        24 presets        dolby NR and metal tape
	automemory preset  radio intercept
        changeable illumination(amber or green) 
        25 watts per channel 
	RCA line level outputs
	separate Bass and Treble controls
	"Super Bass" boost control
	Adjustale gain FM (DX) preamp

This unit is currently in my car but I will remove it
pack it up and, send it to you UPS red (I pay shipping!)
for the first offer of $275.00. I can even arrange to 
accept a credit card as a form of payment.  I really want
to move this  cassete deck .

Reply via email   phil@turing
or by phone
(804) 971 - 7676 home
(804) 974 - 6466 work

Regards,

Phil Davis
KD4BMQ
 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car