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From: p38448n@puukko.hut.fi (Timo Saarto)
Subject: Absolutely nonessential little thing was Re: PHANTOM
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:02:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.203203.29231@news.cs.indiana.edu> jbuck@moose.cs.indiana.edu (John F. Buck) writes:
>Can anyone supply info as to where Phantom is playing and the places it is
>going to be playing.  I have yet to see it and am interested in going.

Has anybody else noted that in Batman Returns-movie, when Bruce and Selina
both go to the ball- it turns out to be masquerade, and true as ever, strangely
familiar-looking fella appears on top of a staircase wearing a skull mask..;-> 

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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Re: Phantom of the Opera -- Andrew Lloyd Weber or Ken Hill ???
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:58:37 GMT

In article <Bt52BM.8HB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lcpg8275@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sunshine ) writes:
>If there are two versions of the Phantom, which one is better,
>ALW or Ken Hill?

I can't really help you out here, but I *can* add to the confusion...

There are at least 2 musical versions. There is one called the "Drury Lane"
version which made an appearance in a small theatre here near Albany, NY. I
assume it originated in England. Is this the same as the Ken Hill version?

There was also a film version that was out about a year ago. It got some
good reviews, mainly from critics who didn't like the ALW version. I heard
that this film was just a filming of a live performance of some PHANTOM
production on stage. Was *this* the Ken Hill version?

Thanks to anyone who could clue me in here.

-Matt 

PS- Who the devil is Ken Hill?

PPS- What was the name of the guy who is doing a revamped ASPECTS OF LOVE?
-- 
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From: thomasne@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re:  PHANTOM/Phantom
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:07:48 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Actually, the Yeston/Kopit PHANTOM just finished a run at the
La Comedia Dinner Theatre, in Springboro, Ohio.  I know some
people who were in it (and are about to do the European tour),
so I went to see it; I never thought I'd prefer the Lloyd Webber
to anything, but it goes to show that in this life we're
constantly being surprised.

The opinions contained herewith are plainly mine and no one else's.

Nathan Thomas

THOMASNE@UCBEH, University of Cincinnati
From: mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Phantom of the Opera -- Andrew Lloyd Weber or Ken Hill ???
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:45:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <Bt52BM.8HB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lcpg8275@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sunshine ) writes:
>Hello Phantom fans,
>
>As far as I know, ALW composed most, if not all, the music in The
>Phantom of the Opera, with lyrics written by Charles Hart, Richard
>Stilgoe, and Mike Batt.
>
>Now, is it true that Ken Hill wrote some different lyrics and hence
>a different version of Phantom than ALW's.  Did Ken make use of 
>the same ALW music?
>
>If there are two versions of the Phantom, which one is better,
>ALW or Ken Hill?

ALW wrote the original musical titled "Phantom of the Opera."  Ken Hill
arranged a musical production of "Phantom of the Opera" taking musical
excerpts from many operas and other theatrical works which are no longer
or never were under copywrite protection.   If you want to see the
"Phantom" that Michael Crawford starred in, check the fine print for
"Music by Andrew Lloyd Webber."   I believe that court hearings also
require Mr. Hill to add a disclaimer to his production ads stating that
this is NOT the ALW production.

--Margaret
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From: rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon)
Subject: Re: Moby Dick?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:38:22 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group

In <16s6t5INNj7b@network.ucsd.edu> todd@sdsc.edu (T. Todd Elvins,,45128) writes:


|"I saw Moby Dick in April in London.  It was really fun with some
|"great songs and performances.  The Captain Ahab character seemed
|"to belong in an altogether different play though.  I am planning
|"to buy the recording when it comes out.

It won't. The musical closed down, apparently because it didn't hit off. Too
bad, cause I saw it too and liked it, just like you. People who filled in the
form to get a recording, got a letter saying that due to problems the cast
recording would not be released.
-- 
Ronald van Loon (rvloon@cv.ruu.nl) 3DCV Group, Utrecht, The Netherlands.

"Al draagt een aap een gouden ring, het is en blijft ALT-q in EMACS"
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From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Phantom of the Opera -- Andrew Lloyd Weber or Ken Hill ???
Reply-To: jpenovic@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:08:03 GMT

In article <Bt6oy6.3sz@news.udel.edu>, conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon
Conrad) writes:
> There are at least 5 musical versions of The Phantom of the Opera
> around.
> 
> 4, 5.  I have heard of at least 2 local theaters (one in Maryland, I
> forget where the other is) who have cooked up their own "Phantom"
> musicals, with some original music, some public-domain opera music.
> 
  A few years ago, there was one put on on Miami Beach at the now 
  defunct Hirshfeld theater.  I believe that Hirshfeld
  payed for that one to be written. I think it might have been filmed 
  by WPBT (the public station in S. Florida).

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From: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.edu (Boyd Ostroff)
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Subject: Live Theatre: An Edangered Species?
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:48:34 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.edu (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY
Originator: ostroff@cloy.oswego.edu

Watching a show on the local Fox channel the other night I was innundated by
commercials for "Roc".  These commercials went on at great length hyping
the fact that the show is going to be presented LIVE "without a safety net",
that nobody had dared to do this for 40 years and that Fox was the "only 
network crazy enough to try" it.

Putting aside the issue of Roc and live TV, this struck me as sadly
symptomatic of today's perception of entertainment.  Apparently you have
to be "crazy" to perform anything live without the benefit of editing and
laugh tracks.  Obviously this attitude is reflected in todays Broadway
muscials which feature over-amplified, over-processed, plastic sound.

Well, I guess a lot of viewers are going to finally experience a real
LIVE theatrical event when they tune into ROC tonight.  

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From: twb2029@cc.utah.edu (Black, Trevor W.)
Subject: More ALW Phantom gossip
Reply-To: twb2029@cc.utah.edu
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 18 AUG 92 16:24:55 

Since the topic seems to be Phantom I thought I would add my two bits.  From 
what I heard ALW is being sued by the Puccini family for stealing music to 
write his highly acclaimed Phantom of the Opera.  The musical piece he 
allegedly borrowed from is Puccini's Girl of the Golden West (La Fontula..?).  
I would be interested to know if anyone else has heard about this?  As I do not 
own and have not heard Puccini's music I would be interested in knowing how 
close they are?  I hear the duet "All I Ask Of You" is the most blatent steal.  
Comments, anyone?

>>>--> Trevor

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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Phantom of the Opera -- Andrew Lloyd Weber or Ken Hill ???
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:17:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.172327.10665@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:

>How long do I have to wait for a book copyrighted 1945 to expire?

It depends when the author died.  International copyright now goes for X
(sorry, don't remember exact number) years from the death of the author.
For comparison, you might note that "The Secret Garden" only recently
entered public domain (written in 1910 or thereabouts, hence the several
recent musical versions), and "Carmen" did so only a decade ago (hence
the film around that time -- one of the librettists was very long-lived
apparently).  You'll probably be waiting a while.

Jon Alan Conrad
From: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: PHANTOM
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:10:00 GMT
Distribution: world
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Reply-To: ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) 

ME>ian.evans@bville.gts.org (Ian Evans) writes:

ME>|It's playing in Toronto right now at the Pantages theatre.  Jeff Hyslop
is
ME>|the Phantom while Colm Wilkinson is on vacation.

ME> Do you know when Colm W. will be back in the role?

We're only allowed to say that he'll be back 'at some time'.  Best bet is
to call the Live Entertainment Corp. in Toronto and try and get it out of
the publicity dept.

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From: shyoun@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: I need "Chicago", help!
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:53:40 PDT

Can anyone help me?  I need to find a recording of the musical
"Chicago."  Does anyone know of one???

SARA
From: ethchen@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edwin T. Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Absolutely nonessential little thing was Re: PHANTOM
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:19:58 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Aug16.200217.24829@nntp.hut.fi> p38448n@puukko.hut.fi (Timo Saarto) writes:
>Has anybody else noted that in Batman Returns-movie, when Bruce and Selina
>both go to the ball- it turns out to be masquerade, and true as ever, strangely
>familiar-looking fella appears on top of a staircase wearing a skull mask..;-> 

Yeah, I noticed that too...a very suspiciously familiar looking mask at
that!  Hmmmm.....wonder where I've seen something like that before  =)

Ed
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: broadway shows recommended?
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:19:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <1992Aug19.134706.17232@Princeton.EDU> ethchen@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edwin T. Chen) writes:

>Just wondering what the term "T.O" means.  Please excuse my ignorance!

Toronto, Ontario.  It's often called "T.O." by natives, as Los Angeles
is known as "L.A."

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: golds_ss@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Stuart S Goldstone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Ellen Greene - Where can I write to her?
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:25:01 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore


Hi, I'd like information on where I can write to Ellen Greene.  I saw her at
The Bottom Line and would like to send her a letter...  I know that normally
letters should be sent to people at the theaters where they are playing, but
Ellen Greene isn't currently in a show.  If anyone can tell me how to get in
contact with her or her agent or whoever, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks...

-- 
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From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Here he comes, here comes Speed Racer...
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:52:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

guya@acf3.nyu.edu (Alfred E. Guy) writes:

 >shou@quads.uchicago.edu (roger colin shouse) writes:
 >>>
 >>>	Does anyone remember the complete lyrics to the Speed Racer
 >>>theme song.
 >>>
 >>My favorite cartoon of all time.
 >>The words are something like:
 
 >>There he goes, there goes Speed Racer
 >I believe it's "Here he comes, here comes Speed Racer"
 
 >>He's a demon on wheels
 >>He's a demon and he's gonna be chasin' after someone.
 
 >>He's comin' at ya so ya better look alive
 >>He's comin' at ya in the powerful MACH FIVE!
 >"He's busy revving up the powerful Mach Five."
 
 
 >>And when the odds are against you and there's dangerous work to do
 >>You bet your live Speed Racer will see you through.
 
 >>Go Speed Racer
 >>Go Speed Racer
 >>Go Speed Racer, GO.

_somewhere_ in there are the words

        {He's We've} got adventure waitin' just ahead!

ok
dpm
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From: djung@fraser.sfu.ca (Derek Shew Lon Jung)
Subject: Re: Michael Dorn
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:54:04 GMT

maus@fid.morgan.com (Malcolm Austin) writes:

>Not to mention his (LeVar Burton's) outstanding debut as Kunta Kinte in the
>miniseries ROOTS.  How soon they forget.

>Rosalind Chao also had a recurring role on TV before, but I forget where.
>(M*A*S*H?)

Wasn't she on Different Strokes?  I believe she was Arnold's schoolteacher....
From: das@cci632.cci.com (David Stumme (co-op))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Whatever happenned to Nightmare Cafe?
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:33:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <D2150040.b079gq@phunt.MV.COM> phil@phunt.MV.COM writes:
>Where'd Nightmare Cafe go?
>
>Did I blink and miss it?

I guess you did.  Nightmare Cafe had its 6-week trial run last spring.  It
has not been picked up for the fall schedule, so those 6 episodes are it.

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From: perl@dwrsun4.UUCP (Robert Perlberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Perfect Strangers
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:53:03 GMT
Organization: Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York

I have ... a plan!

Robert Perlberg
Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York
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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
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Subject: Re: WANTED: All Mork & Mindy episodes!
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:29:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

In article <1992Aug14.133049.6959@ac.dal.ca> tominatr@ac.dal.ca writes:

> WANTED:
> 
> All episodes of Mork & Mindy
> 
>        - Tom N.

FOUND!

  Watch Nick at Nite!
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From: ijn@bnr.co.uk (Ian Normington)
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Subject: Actress who plays Nancy
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:12:30 GMT
Distribution: rec
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Dear all,

	Could anyone please tell me the name of the actress who plays
	Nancy in ThirtySomething. I want to know so that I can settle 
	a dispute between myself and my girlfriend. I say that she is Billy 
	Crystal's wife Barbara in City Slickers, however, my girlfriend 
	disagrees.

	Thanks
		Ian
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From: usagi@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Erin Sasaki)
Subject: NEXP:  Start of new season?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:33:09 GMT


Well, I guess the subject says it all.  Has anyone heard when the 4th season
opener of Northern Exposure is going to be aired? 

						Erin Sasaki
						usagi@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu


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From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: TripleCast revisited
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:33:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.092805.2496@mdcbbs.com>, rothe@teksun1.mdcbbs.com
(Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr) writes:
> 
> 	They pressed the triplecast as "All the events, all the time".  
> 	I wish they could've done that.  I would've even settled for
> 	having these non-premiere sports during the 12am-6am shift (i'd
> 	have taped them then).
> 
> 	I don't know if I'd buy the triplecast for the summer games again.
> 	I'd want to see a schedule of what's on/when first.
> 
  I think more people would have opted for the triple cast if
  they didn't have to buy the whole package.  I would have
  gone for it if I could have purchased only the channel that
  showed the equestrian events.

  Several people that I've spoken with didn't want to pay for
  all three channels when there was really only one channel they
  were interested in.

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From: phil@phunt.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
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Subject: Whatever happenned to Nightmare Cafe?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:07:44 EST
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Where'd Nightmare Cafe go?

Did I blink and miss it?


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From: cvantwrp@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Cyndi Van Antwerp)
Subject: What was his nameI(Cartoon)?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:46:41 GMT

His name (the penguin) is/was "Chilly Willy."
-- 
Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.
					-- John Lennon

Cyndi Van Antwerp
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From: guya@acf3.nyu.edu (Alfred E. Guy)
Subject: Re: Here he comes, here comes Speed Racer...
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:00:21 GMT

shou@quads.uchicago.edu (roger colin shouse) writes:
>>
>>	Does anyone remember the complete lyrics to the Speed Racer
>>theme song.
>>
>My favorite cartoon of all time.
>The words are something like:

>There he goes, there goes Speed Racer
I believe it's "Here he comes, here comes Speed Racer"

>He's a demon on wheels
>He's a demon and he's gonna be chasin' after someone.

>He's comin' at ya so ya better look alive
>He's comin' at ya in the powerful MACH FIVE!
"He's busy revving up the powerful Mach Five."


>And when the odds are against you and there's dangerous work to do
>You bet your live Speed Racer will see you through.

>Go Speed Racer
>Go Speed Racer
>Go Speed Racer, GO.
From: fwilliam@lab5.smcm.edu (Frank Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: BH 90210
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:24:31 GMT
Distribution: usa

I just wanted to comment on the parallels between the last show and the  
movie casablanca.  "we'll always have paris" a strange american named Rick  
etc.  Anyone care to comment on what characters parallel other characters.

Victor Laslo=
Rick        =
Mrs. Laslo  =

>  
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From: ladc@cogfog.cognet.ucla.edu (Laura Da Costa)
Subject: Re: Forever Knight--8/11 episode
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:19:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.180007.25420@watson.ibm.com> lutz@shredder.raleigh.ibm.com writes:
>In  <1992Aug12.152235.25679@cognet.ucla.edu>  ladc@cogfog.cognet.ucla.edu (Laura Da Costa) writes:
>> Help.  My LA station cut to a hostage situation that was wrapping up
>> a little after midnight this morning, and it stayed with that action
>> for about 15 min (luckily it ended peacefully).  When they cut in to
>> Forever Knight, Nick was just arriving with his doctor friend (I never
>> can remember her name) at the location where the injured informant was
>> staying.  The next thing I saw was Nick already immobilized by the
>> acupunturist, and he was just telling Nick why he was going to kill him.
>> Can anybody tell me what happened in between these two scenes.  What
>> happened to the girl? Was Stanky right about who the leak was?  How did
>> the doctor get Nick onto the table?
>
>Let's see...
>
---Summary of story deleted----

>The next seen is Nick on the table where you picked back up.
>
>Hope this helps.
It did.  Thank you. 
>
>---
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>
>"Now.  I shall destroy the rest of your potato crop.  Then I will attack
> your broccoli, your rhubarb, your squash, und last, but not least,
> ha, ha, ha, your kumquats!" - Colonel Siegfried from "Get Smart"
I remember this episode---The one where Max and 99 tell her mother that
they are getting married (the one where we and they discover that 99's
father was a secret agent)

Laura

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