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From: jdtucker@mobius03.math.uwaterloo.ca (John Daryl Tucker)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:54:20 GMT

Can vampires breed with humans (Not pseudo-vampires)?  It still doesn't
matter.  They would still be considered a sub-species.  I think of this
condition just like the mitochondria (sp?) which inhabits every cell in
our body.  It helps us break down sugars, I think.  (The mitochondria
is a single cell microrganism).  It became so
important to us that we reproduce it with our cells.  Way back when,
some people didn't have it.  We could still interbreed.  Vampires were
born human, they can't be anything more than a sub-species.  If vampires
could have children with each other only then they would be a new
species.


    - Other Brother Daryl (a.k.a. Quitoxic Jedi)

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From: clark@neuro.usc.edu (Bob Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Music
Date: 5 Nov 1992 11:33:17 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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I have the tape of "Interview with a Vampire" and Lestat
is clearly pronounced LEH s(taut...like a tight rope).
From: ard@cs.bham.ac.uk (Antoni Diller)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:55:44 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

In article <1992Nov3.153311@IASTATE.EDU> ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez) writes:
>Most famous vampires happen to be rich, but
>suppose you start from being a regular guy,
>meaning you have a job at an office and one
>night you are bitten (or something happens)
>and you become a vampire.  Your "creator" does
>not give you a fortune but only a few "lessons"
>on being a vampire such as: avoid daylight,
>kill/don't kill when feeding, etc.
>
>You cannot continue on your current job because
>after a few days, it will be very noticeable that
>you don't show up to work.  So you lose your income.
>
>Naturally you can steal and presumably you are very
>strong and can detect humans, so robbing people
>and stealing from their house is not too hard.
>
>What else can you do? 

As vampires live for a long time, one thing you can do is just to
open a bank account, deposit a small amount of money and in a few
hundred years become very rich.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Subject: Chelseq Quinn Yarbro - Roman novel
Reply-To: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:58:22 GMT

Yarbro's novel set in the Roman empire was great,
however I would like to hear about its veracity in
depicting everyday life. I never read anything like
that about slaves, contracts, and marriages.

For example, Yarbro points out that there were
many rules protecting slaves from abuse.  The situation
she depicts looks more humane than slavery in America
much later.

About religion, there is a comment that there was
freedom, except that "those Christians are not content
with practicing their religion, they want to impose
it on everybody else."

She also mentions technology like heated floors and
claims that it disappeared after the Roman empire 
collapsed.
From: s_wilkin@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Nightlife?
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:54:15 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

A remarkably irrelevant posting that possibly ought to go in a.games.frp
but nevertheless.

Any of you lot play Nightlife?

To the uninitiated, it's another rpg where the players are nasty monsters
but the  Vampires etc have a slightly better time of it. 

"Gee, I'm hungry. I know I'll go and suck the lifeblood from an innocent
 child..."

Masq.
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From: cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (The Ghost with the Most=)
Subject: Re: WYREWOLVES
Keywords: LYCANTHROPY
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 01:56:15 GMT

9210946@cuslm.ca (THERIAULT YANICK M.) writes:


>	The thought of being a werewolf pleases me!  

That is quite wonderful, the thought of NOT talking about it
in alt.VAMPYRES pleases me!

alt.horror, alt.horror, alt.horror, alt.horror, alt.horror
or some such.

-- 
Undead, Undead Undead.
cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU
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From: harrity@sumax.seattleu.edu (Zak)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Aes Sedai
Keywords: Aes Sedai
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:41:39 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <1d91k1INNgui@coral.bucknell.edu> skelly@mira.bucknell.edu (sean kelly `94) writes:
>>
>The Aes Sedai are (to the best of my knowledge) purely an invention of
>Robert Jordan's.  They are people (primarily female- the males are
>hunted and stripped of their power) who can channel magic from the
>'true source', sort of a Yin-Yang of power in the universe, with males
>able to channel from the male part (which is tainted fron Shai-Tan's
>touch ie. Satan, Ba'al...), and the females able to channel from the
>female part.  They channel this power in flows of earth, air, spirit
>etc. to 'cast a spell'.  A pure stream of 'fire' sould set something
>aflame, or melt it if it were metal.  More extravagant effects would
>be earthquakes, weather changes, and mental affects (changing
>emotions, forgetfulness etc.).  The females are better with 'Air' and
>'Water' and the males tend to be better with 'Earth' and 'Fire'.
>This is all from his _Eye_of_the_World_ series.
>

Whew....crude, but true in the most *essential* fashion.... gah

Here's the real story of Aes Sedai....

An Aes Sedai?  Man or woman, they are Wielders of the One Power, drawn
from the True Source, the driving force of the universe, created and set
in motion by the Creator at the universe's inception.  The True Source is
divided into halves...Saidin, from which men draw, and Saidar, channelled
by women.  Saidin and Saidar work at the same time with and against each
other to provide the force necessery to drive the universe.

Think of the Aes Sedai as a waterwheel, the Source as the river.  As the
waterwheel channels the force of the flowing river, so does the Aes Sedai
channel the flow of the One Power.  It can no more be used up by the Aes
Sedai than the river could be used up by the wheel.  The danger is the
same as well....if the wheel is immersed too far, the torrent will destroy
it, in much the same way that Aes Sedai will be destroyed by the very
Power they wield should they outstep their limits.

By the way, Aes Sedai are clever works of fiction created by Robert Jordan
in his Wheel of Time series, quite possible one of the best works of
fantasy fiction to come out in years.  :)

Later dudes and dudettes....

Daniel-Jean
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From: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Reply-To: ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:49:05 GMT

Several responses talk of long term investments.
This works if you have a large initial investment
and you wait a long, long time, meaning I start
with $100,000 and leave them for 50 years with
a good investor.  What do I do in the meantime?

How would a new vampire start?  Where do you go
to steal jewels?  who would buy them?  Call
me street-innocent, but I don't know and I have
no idea of how to learn.
From: lamanna@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vlad?
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:50:44 GMT
Organization: UB

v116qhth@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I'm not evil...I'm just good looking) writes:

>  What's the connection between Vlad (the Impailer I am assuming) and Dracula?
>  Same guy?

	The connection is this.  Vlad's father was called Dracul(sp?).
	The word Dracula means the son of Dracul(sp?).
-- 

	"It is easier to get forgiven than permission"

						Michael Lamanna
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From: chanson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Hanson)
Subject: Re: Forever Knight question
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:48:19 GMT

  Hey now! Did I miss something? I saw the pilot episode of Forever Knight
here in Denver years ago, but never saw any other episodes. Did this get
picked up as a series somewhere?

  Tell me more!

  Chris - Xenon

--
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From: bp494@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dana Goldblatt)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Dhampyr/Dhampire
Date: 9 Nov 1992 06:53:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bp494@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dana Goldblatt)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



According to both the movie Vampire Hunter D, and the
book Dhampire by Scott Baker, a "dhampire" (from Baker's book)
or "dhampyr" (from subtitles of Vampire Hunter D) is a 
mortal (sort of human) descendant of a vampire.  Are there
any legends you know about regarding these?  

The character in Dhampire is descended from Vlad Tepes Dracula
and Elizabeth Bathory.  (maybe he is related to Lisa Sheehan?)

(SPOILER FOR VAMPIRE HUNTER D BELOW!)





In Vampire Hunter D, the title character is (disclaimer: I don't
understand Japanese) either Dracula or Dracula's son.  

Anyway, anyone who knows about this , especially if you have
read Dhampire or seen VHD, please post & email to me.....
-dana

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From: branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:58:50 GMT

      Then again, perhaps we could reconsider our opinions of the relative
goodness and evil of the vampires we already know:  Lestat was evil in
Interview, but not in Lestat.
      There is a book by Fred Saberhagen (actually a series of books)
which reexamines the whole Stoker book from Drac's point of view.
A must read...it reinterprets many of the things which Jonathon originally
saw and heard (did he ever know Romanian?--he claims he did not!) and explains 
them.  By the end of the book, you are ready to throw in your lot with the
vampire and castrate the rest of "humanity".
From: kendall@cats.ucsc.edu (Hadu-Ken)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:46:07 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 The Fool just said :
>>However, I don't think this is the traditional method of becoming a vampire.

No it isn't. Alright, finally someone who posts it like it is  ;-)

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From: kendall@cats.ucsc.edu (Hadu-Ken)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Music
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:06:36 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <tgtchb.720891845@tb3.chem.tue.nl> tgtchb@chem.tue.nl writes:
>>> I am looking for music that has to do with vampires.  Is there a filk
>>> tape out on this topic, or have any of the "big name" groups done much
>>> with vampires?
>
>   Hmmm, I remember Echo & The Bunnymen featuring some themes for the movie
>   The Lost Boys (I liked it, BTW) which have probably something to do with
>   vampyres :-)
>   What's the definition of "vampyre" music anyway?
>
>   Virtually,
>               Haribo.

 Vampire Music.... Hmmmm... I have dicussed with some of my friends, and
we think Metallica is good vampire music, like Fade To Black and The Unforgiven
Very deathly, Fade to Black is about hunger in a vampire. The Unforgiven
is the birth of a new vampire.

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From: tkelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Mithrandir)
Subject: What is this group for?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:36:17 GMT

   I'm relatively new to this group and I'm wondering what type of
things is this group for.
   Is it a discusiion grooup for literature, or anything even remotely
vampire related.
 
--
>>>[Mithranidir]<<<  >>>[tkelly@unix2.tcd.ie]<<<

 "I hate it when they aint been shaved ",Severn from Near Dark.
From: bcohen@cad721.intel.com (Benjamin Cohen )
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:51:10 GMT
Organization: Corporate CAD, INTeL Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <Bx92wx.3G0@cs.bham.ac.uk>, ard@cs.bham.ac.uk (Antoni Diller) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov3.153311@IASTATE.EDU> ramirez@IASTATE.EDU (Richard G Ramirez) writes:
|> >Most famous vampires happen to be rich, but
|> >suppose you start from being a regular guy,
|> >meaning you have a job at an office and one
|> >night you are bitten (or something happens)
|> >and you become a vampire.  Your "creator" does
|> >not give you a fortune but only a few "lessons"
|> >on being a vampire such as: avoid daylight,
|> >kill/don't kill when feeding, etc.
|> >
|> >You cannot continue on your current job because
|> >after a few days, it will be very noticeable that
|> >you don't show up to work.  So you lose your income.
|> >
|> >Naturally you can steal and presumably you are very
|> >strong and can detect humans, so robbing people
|> >and stealing from their house is not too hard.
|> >
|> >What else can you do? 
|> 
|> As vampires live for a long time, one thing you can do is just to
|> open a bank account, deposit a small amount of money and in a few
|> hundred years become very rich.

Actually, interest on bank deposits rarely exceeds inflation by more
than 2-3 %. This can result in a loss of real wealth after taxes.

I suggest getting some initial capital by burglary, then investing
in real goods. Gems, precious metals, and property will almost always
show better gains than CD's in the long term.  Also, good stock
selection can do wonders if you have 100 years to let them mature.

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From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Subject: Re: Werewolves
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:29:10 GMT

Well, Mark, how was your emotional state?  Were you in an "extreme" emotion, 
such as fear, lust, or anger.  I have experienced pecululiar sensations when I 
become extremely angry (angry enough for a semi-religeous person to really want
to kill someone).  The sensation started on my back and felt like I was being 
poked by tiny needles (not too uncomfortable, but none too pleasant).  It is 
possible (I suppose) that my extreme anger was making my body act goofy on me, 
but I am not convinced of this. 
But, then again, I howl to release stress, love dogs, red meat 
(rare of course), and I love the night.  Did I mention I have a temper that the
Incredible Hulk would find a bit excessive?
Just my two howls worth...

PS: Have you felt the change recently.  Often at puberty is when many 
paranormal abilities are supposed to come into effect (I always was a late
bloomer [like around midnight { ;) }])

-- 
Never trust the obvious.-- "This," I said pleasantly, "is known as getting it 
on." Charlie Decker, from Stephen King's "Rage"-- "Oh, shit!" anon. wise man--
ALBATROSS!-- It's amazing what you can do, if you don't know you can't do it.
"Denn die Toten reiten schnell." passanger from Bram Stoker's "Dracula"-------
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: vampires becoming rich
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 00:49:33 GMT

s_wilkin@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Simon) writes:
>Also If you suddenly realise you're a vampire and are technically immortal,
>putting a large sum of money in a bank and letting it earn interest
>for about 50 years while you sleep is always a good one...

Well, unfortunately, the account would have gone dormant and the money
handed over to the government by that time, if I remember correctly.
I believe the account is determined to be dormant (what is the word
I am looking for!) after seven years of inactivity.

brian moffet
--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague)
Subject: Re: snack.gif (0/12)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:46:51 GMT

tld@moon.base.bellcore.com (Terry Davidson) writes:

>Greetings...  I've been reading this group since it started; figured
>it was time to contribute an item...

>snack.gif is a fairly decent painting of a Lady who was rather
>hungry...  Most computer-viewable vamp[iy]re artwork I've seen
>is standard stock; this one's a bit better...  enjoy!

How does one view this gif? I uudecoded it and tried to view it on a NeXT but
all I got was a flocked-up screen.  I'm gonna go try and view it on my GS and
see what happens.
-- 
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From: cgc2646@usl.edu (Cech Claude G)
Subject: Re: Wyrewolves
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:51:26 GMT

In article <1d7t0vINNmfr@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
>In article <1992Nov3.132024.1725@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_coolidgejs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>>Why would anyone WANT to be a vampire?  Don't vampires need to feed off the
>>blood of the living?  I wouldn't want that kind of curse.  Blood banks are not
>>an alternative either, because they are in short supply.  (Donate blood!)  Now
>>werewolves on the other hand...they don't need blood, just food like the rest
>>of us.  For me, lycanthropy would be the only way to go.
>
>Hmm.  Well, with the kindred, it's a constant struggle between
>humanity and the beast within.  Lupines are quite the opposite--no
>struggle exists, either in full control of the humanity, or the beast.
>And blood itself is necessary, yes.  But, as one would note, not
>necessarily human.
>

   And anyway, werewolves after they die generally become vampires, at
least in the Slavic myths (although I've not heard of this happening in
any of the local loup-garou legends).  So, in this case, the "only way to
go" is just the doorway.

Cheers,
	Claude

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: dhallora@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Dave Halloran)
Subject: AARP
Followup-To: alt.vampyres
Organization: U. of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:29:20 GMT

Are vampires (vampyres) eligible for AARP benefits?
They should at least meet the age requirement.
From: ufaustus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mark Bergem)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Vampires-evil?
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:35:10 GMT


 I wounder who it was that said Vampires have to be evil?  By there nature it   would seem that they would have to be, and of course it's always more fun to be evil, yet I don't think they have to be.  I know it sounds like a lame idea, but
 just think about it... there is a posiblity(now I don't mean vampires that go
 around and feed on the blood of animal, I talking true blood-sucking vampires)
 It's just an idea.....



			Dr Faustus

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From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:51:44 GMT

cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU  writes:
> What was evil again?  Oh yeah,  I guess that, to the majority of people
> vampirism would be generally considered evil, not every person mind you.
> It does involve a good deal of killing and the like.

Oh, you silly, silly people...How many times does it have to be said that
the average bloodsucker does NOT need to kill its victim.  Besides, exactly
how much blood would a vampire need in a night?

-- 
Never trust the obvious.-- "This," I said pleasantly, "is known as getting it 
on." Charlie Decker, from Stephen King's "Rage"-- "Oh, shit!" anon. wise man--
ALBATROSS!-- It's amazing what you can do, if you don't know you can't do it.
"Denn die Toten reiten schnell." passanger from Bram Stoker's "Dracula"-------
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Crypt o' Caribe
Date: 12 Nov 1992 13:38:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Article 3318 of soc.culture.caribbean:
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:07:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.200730.17957@wam.umd.edu> karib@next08csc.wam.umd.edu (Bediako Ntodi George) writes:
>	A concern of mine is that across the Caribbean people are more  
>aware of Count Dracula, Frankenstein, The Wolfman and other "European"  
>spirits.  I am scared that our own culture is becoming lost (especially  
>among the Caribbean school children, who are becoming more Americanized  
>every second.  My purpose is to try to compare what we all know about  
>spirits of the Caribbean.  Let's see how many of these you recognize. Do  
>you know which countries their from and what they are? :-
>
>Duppy (real easy)	Googaralli
>Rolling Calf		Hydaralli
>Steel Donkey		
>Bacooman
>Moose
>Loogaroo
>Soucouyant
>Ole Higue
>Female (pretty hard)
>Cribeau
>Dutchman
>Moongazer
>Massacourou man
>Bush Dai-Dai
>
>These are just a few of the top of my head. I would really like to hear  
>some more.  Anyone out there know of any others?

    How about:

Tonton Macoutes
Zinglindou

    H.


-- 
Ted....
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