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From: Jud Kenney <pjk39593@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Convention Announcement for rec.games.frp.announce
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Reply-To: pjk39593@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:16:44 GMT

Winter War 20
Roleplaying - Board Games - Miniatures


Winter War 20 will be held in the Foreign Languages Building on the campus of 
the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, on January 8 through 10.

Winter War 20 is sponsored by the University of Illinois Conflict Simulation
Society.  Fees are: $5 for the weekend, $3 for a single day, and $1 for each
event entered.

For more information about Winter War 20, or if you are interested in running
an event, call Alan Conrad at (217) 359-8317.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
The opinions stated here are my own, and not endorsed by or supported by
the University of Illinois.

pjk39593@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu			Jud Kenney, Student-at-Large

Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce,news.answers
From: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott Mash)
Subject: RPG Fanzine X-Mas Issue Ready!
Followup-To: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Reply-To: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Organization: Smasher Land RPG BBS (614)593-8359
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:22:28 GMT


The DOUBLE X-MAS ISSUE of "Silver, Swords & Slaughter" is ready!

"Silver, Swords & Slaughter" is an amateur rpg zine that covers
nearly every rpg past and present.  All articles have been submitted
by readers, friends and net-folks.  The only charge for this small
zine is $1 which will cover the cost of the paper and stamp and will
only be distributed in the USA. (this is to keep the costs down).

Several changes have been made since issue 3.  The typeface and layout 
have both changed which has made SS&S 100% easier to read.  There is
also more artwork and a greater variety of articles.  In this months
issue there is a survey, which if filled out and returned, makes you
eligable to win a prize donated by a loyal reader.

This issue of SS&S has articles written by Peter Adkinson (creator of
The Primal Order, currently working with Wizards of the Coast), 
Nick Parenti (recently published in Dragon), Brandon Cope and many
others.....

There are articles on Amber, Fantasy Hero, Talislanta, AD&D, Gurps,
Creating your own RPG, and many many other articles....

I am making no money from this magazine all the money goes back into
the next issue of this zine.  "Silver, Swords & Slaughter" is done in
black and white on standard 8 1/2 paper.

If you have any questions feel free to email me at
sss@smashland.nelsonville.oh.us

Submissions are needed for the fifth issue.  The authors of the
articles that have been used will receive a free copy of SS&S.
Submissions can be emailed to the address above.

Silver, Swords & Slaughter
c/o Scott Mash
11685 SR 691
Nelsonville, Ohio  45764

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Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce
From: "Michael W. Lucas" <mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
Subject: Gatecrasher -- new RPG
Followup-To: rec.games.frp.misc
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:28:30 GMT

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		a humorous high-fantasy high-tech role-playing game!

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Then their President became a toaster oven.  A fat man and a legion of elves
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	Mother Nature's operating license has been revoked.
	Reality is suspended for the duration.

	And nothing will ever be the same again...



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		mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce
From: an2813@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Mythus Character Generation v1.00
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: rec.games.frp.announce
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:31:24 GMT

 I've uploaded a copy of my character generation program for Mythus to 

      wuarchive.wustl.edu

 in the directory

      pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS

 as the file

      mythus.arj

 
 It runs under Windows 3.1

 Features: -Implements most of the Advanced Character Generation rules
           -Lets you add your own Vocations and K/S Areas to the programs
            database
           -Modify any existing Vocation or K/S Area
           -Allows modifications to be made to several of the tables used
	    by the Advanced Character Generation rules.

 Regards,

 DGL

[this came in as an anonymous posting - mod]


Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce
From: jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Jerry Stratton)
Subject: NAGEE: Submissions Wanted!
Summary: Neo-Anarchists' Guide to Everything Else
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Reply-To: jerry@teetot.acusd.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:56:45 GMT

That's right, peoples! There's a writer in you, and it's tryin' ta get
out!

I'm about to start compiling the Fourth Damn Annual Neo-Anarchists'
Guide to Everything Else. If you've got something you want to see in it,
send it on over.

(It might not show up in the Fourth, but it'll probably show up in the
Fifth. Always take a fifth, when offered.)

The NAGEEs *might* (emphases on _might_) be printed up for non-net
distribution by Greg Porter, of Blacksburg Tactical Research
Corp/Company/Cadre/Cornucopia/Camels/Choose your own C, otherwise known
as BTRC. If you want more information on that before I use your article,
e-mail me for more information.

The NAGEE remains freely distributable (Distribute Freely, at no cost to
the user or profit for yourself.) Greg has special permission to charge
for disks/paper/time. This permission given to Greg does not, in any
way, constitute a general permission to charge a price of any kind for
the NAGEE.

Jerry
jerry@teetot.acusd.edu
------
        "In the councils of government, we must guard against the
        aquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or
        unsought, by the military-industrial complex.  The
        potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced
        power exists and will exist."

        Dwight David Eisenhower, in his farewell address, Jan. 17,
	1961

Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce,news.answers
From: bob@msc.edu (Robert Hanson)
Subject: NWP net.book
Followup-To: rec.games.frp.dnd
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:38:01 GMT

Hello,

Tom Parker and I are going to compile a list of NWP for the net.
We plan to combine an index of TSR's existing NWP with a list and
description of NWP created by individuals on the net.  I am just
writing to let you know.

			Bob Hanson
                        (bob@msc.edu)

[A related Posting - mod]

In case you didn't get anything from Bob about where we are going to post
it, I sent him a message that we are going to post it to the following sites,
if it's ok with him.

greyhawk.stanford.edu
and
ftp.umd.umich.edu (ex-Tiamat in case I just listed that wrong)

He should send you a letter after this one verifying that.

Sorry about the conglomerate(sp?)  of messages from us.
Neither of us has done this before, so getting the communication scheme down 
is taking a little time.

Tom Parker

thpr_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce
From: dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Korth)
Subject: B-CON, part 5 (of 5, at least for 1992)
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:09:43 GMT

Yet *another* shameless B-CON plug...

On February 27th and 28th, 1993, the Bradley University Medieval
College Society will be hosting:

B-CON!!!

...on the campus of Bradley University in Peoria, Illinois.

We do indeed have some guests of honor.  However, the people in charge of
that end of things have not told me who they are!  Anyway, I'll be
reposting (hopefully with that information--you listening, Ron?) after
Christmas break (about 1/17/93 or so).

The list of games is at last final, and we will be running:
Shadowrun II
Champions (2 scenarios)
Star Wars (2nd ed.)
an AD&D1 tournament scenario
an AD&D2 scenario
an AD&D2 Ravenloft scenario
Warhammer minis
Toon
Vampire
Clay-o-Rama
Supremacy
WH40K
Warhammer fantasy
Top Secret/SI

We *may* be running a second Shadowrun game, along with GURPS.

In addition, the GDW demo team will be here, demonstrating Dangerous
Journeys.

Fees are $5 for the weekend, $3 per day if you preregister; $7 for the
weekend and $5 per day if you pay at the door.

Pre-registration information should include the names of all the
people you're registering (yes, we *do* have a reason for that
request), and should be sent (along with the money) to:

B-CON REGISTRATION
c/o Medieval College Society
425 Sisson Hall
Bradley University
Peoria, IL  61625

More specific information will be posted when available.  If you would like
to receive this information through email, send email to one of these email
addresses:
	dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (this one is preferred)
	mystk@camelot.bradley.edu

...and we will send you the information.

Do *not* send any email to the buhub addresses listed in earlier versions
of this posting!  The 'hub is being taken permanently off-line over break
to provide more disk space for camelot, so we will not be able to reply!

(p.s. If you need to speak with someone, the MCS office's phone number
is (309) 677-3358.  We do have an answering machine, and if no-one's
there, we'll call you back as soon as we can.)
--
*** Matt Korth *** dragon@camelot.bradley.edu *** dragon@buhub.bradley.edu ***
"Apology *accepted*, Captain Needa."  --Darth Vader, SW:TESB

Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.announce
From: jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Jerry Stratton)
Subject: NAGEE: Submissions Wanted!
Summary: Neo-Anarchists' Guide to Everything Else
Originator: cwatters@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Reply-To: jerry@teetot.acusd.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:56:45 GMT

That's right, peoples! There's a writer in you, and it's tryin' ta get
out!

I'm about to start compiling the Fourth Damn Annual Neo-Anarchists'
Guide to Everything Else. If you've got something you want to see in it,
send it on over.

(It might not show up in the Fourth, but it'll probably show up in the
Fifth. Always take a fifth, when offered.)

The NAGEEs *might* (emphases on _might_) be printed up for non-net
distribution by Greg Porter, of Blacksburg Tactical Research
Corp/Company/Cadre/Cornucopia/Camels/Choose your own C, otherwise known
as BTRC. If you want more information on that before I use your article,
e-mail me for more information.

The NAGEE remains freely distributable (Distribute Freely, at no cost to
the user or profit for yourself.) Greg has special permission to charge
for disks/paper/time. This permission given to Greg does not, in any
way, constitute a general permission to charge a price of any kind for
the NAGEE.

Jerry
jerry@teetot.acusd.edu
------
        "In the councils of government, we must guard against the
        aquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or
        unsought, by the military-industrial complex.  The
        potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced
        power exists and will exist."

        Dwight David Eisenhower, in his farewell address, Jan. 17,
	1961

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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy,rec.games.frp.misc
Subject: T$R Newest "Product"
Keywords: TSR Greed Catalog
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:26:06 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Believe it or not, folks, T$R's latest product is:
CTRL-L inserted for people who can't stand greed:

A Hardbound version of the 1993 Catalog.
You buy it. 
Its not a freebie.
You pay money for the catalog.
It does include 32 pages of interviews and insights, but this sounds
like the most colossal rip-off in history of the RPG industry, 
with the possible exception of Dangerous Journeys.

Price is not indicated in the ad, which I saw on the inside front 
cover of the new issue of Games magazine.
-- 
We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
Arthur C. Adams acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil            	<fnord>
No, I'm not the Arthur Adams who draws comic books. Don't even ask.
From: camelsho@trigger.ksu.ksu.edu (   James A Seymour)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy
Subject: Re: How do the readers want anonymous postings handled?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:21:27 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: trigger.ksu.ksu.edu

Forgive me, but why in the world would anybody want to 
post to r.g.frp.announce anonymously?  Personally, I
would not give much credance to something broadcast
to the world by a nameless shadow.

I really dont see any need for anymous posting on that group.


         james seymour/camel/camelsho@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
                       1-800-729-0730
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From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy,rec.games.frp.misc
Subject: Re: T$R Newest "Product"
Keywords: TSR Greed Catalog
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:51:37 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola, G|teborg, G|taland

In article <1992Dec17.212606.15713@afterlife.ncsc.mil> acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:
>Believe it or not, folks, T$R's latest product is:
>A Hardbound version of the 1993 Catalog.

  So the catalog is out? Well, time for me to go out and get a copy of it
(softbound and for $0.00 of course:) to write the nasty review of the
year:)

>Arthur C. Adams acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil            	<fnord>

-bertil-
--
"It can be shown that for any nutty theory, beyond-the-fringe political view or
 strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an
 exercise for your kill-file."
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 22:30:05 EST
From: The illustrius Pat Ellis (the DM) <IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dangerous Journeys (Feedback/Discussions)

Well let me start off by saying that I have neither played Dangerous
Journeys nor do I own any of the material.  However I have flipped
through it a bit I I'd like to say the following:  I Love the Camapaign
world!  Yes I know that sounds stupid, it's the earth after all but
I think it makes for a great world.  All the players are familiar with
it, but too familiar with it, plenty of stuff can be added easily (
just grab the local encyclpedia Critanica or a good history book) you
don't have to worry about buying gaming supplements because you can
run down to the library.  I have played on our planet before using
Rolemaster rules (which I now hate (IMO)) and had a blast orcs and
goblins were only found on North and South america but these
continents had just been colinzed, and the pope wanted these Pagans destroyed
or coverted, what blast, anyway, I play AD&D and intend on running my
next campaing using the world presented in book 3 (I think) of Dangerous
Journeys , just my opinion........

                      Pat Ellis
                             THE DM
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy
From: johnson1@cs.uwp.edu (Christina Johnson)
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Discussion on .advocacy (related to the .cyber RFD)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:32:05 GMT

while I would be really happy with a shadowrun specific group, i would be
more than pleased with merely including shadowrun in a cyber group. 
However, when I was first told of these newsgroups, i was told that the
.cyber group didn't welcome shadowrun material, and to direct my shadowrun
questions to .misc.  Was this because this is simply the way it had
evolved, or did the cyber folks really not want the sr material in their
group?  I can certianly see arguement for it.  THere's more magic in SR
that in any other cyberpunk game.  (Read:  there is magic in shadowrun.) 
However, i can also certianly see including SR in teh cyber instead of the
.misc.  At least that would be narrowing the subject somewhat.

No matter, I will continue reading .misc, .cyber and .* whether branches
occur or not.  

-- 
 _______________________________________________
 -Brandywine-                                  
 "Insanity is a perfectly reasonable adaptation
  to an insane world."                            
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy
From: imeslsl@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (LEPRICAN~~~)
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Discussion on .advocacy (related to the .cyber RFD)
Reply-To: imeslsl@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (LEPRICAN~~~)
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:24:56 GMT

In article <RATINOX.92Dec14203427@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu>, ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri) writes:
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:50:34 GMT, akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes)
>>>>>> said:
>
>Steven> Oops, I was assuming that people were proposing a new group
>Steven> for Shadowrun.  I would be quite happy having a group called
>Steven> .cyber that excluded SR posts; unfortunatly, the SR people
>Steven> would inevitably post messages there.
>
>There is a group that used to be Shadowrun-free, rec.games.cyber. Due to a
>variety of reasons, rec.games.cyber is now auto-moderated (ie, anything
>posted gets automatically approved).

That's a joke...  anything I posted, (about anything!) just dissappeared.
The most popular idea, from what I see is to kill the automoderator.
anyway...
	Leprican~~~
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy
From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri)
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Discussion on .advocacy (related to the .cyber RFD)
X-Posting-Software: GNUS 3.14.1 [ NNTP-based News Reader for GNU Emacs ]
Reply-To: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu
X-Signature-Virus-Protection: Version 1.51
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Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
	<1992Dec14.234559.7363@netcom.com> <1992Dec14.235034.7835@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:35:32 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:50:34 GMT, akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes)
>>>>> said:

Steven> Oops, I was assuming that people were proposing a new group
Steven> for Shadowrun.  I would be quite happy having a group called
Steven> .cyber that excluded SR posts; unfortunatly, the SR people
Steven> would inevitably post messages there.

There is a group that used to be Shadowrun-free, rec.games.cyber. Due to a
variety of reasons, rec.games.cyber is now auto-moderated (ie, anything
posted gets automatically approved).

There are currently two discussions going on right now for new groups under
the rec.games.frp heirarchy, one for a .cyber group and one for a
.shadowrun group.

The .cyber group has two purposes. One is to remove moderation entirely.
The other is to move rec.games.cyber into the rec.games.frp heirarchy.
Currently, Shadowrun posts are not being censored out. If the unmoderation
vote carries, then Shadowrun posts will continue to not be censored. If the
unmoderation vote fails, this may not be the case.

When this comes to the CFV, I will be voting "yes" for both.

The .shadowrun group has one purpose, to move the (IMO) small amount of
Shadowrun posts to their own newsgroup. I don't really feel this is as
necessary. The SR posts in .misc are around 25% of the total volume, which
I don't feel is enough to warrant a new group. However, .dnd's volume is at
least equal to .misc, which makes it valid as it's own group.

The .shadowrun RFD has been put on hold due to the .cyber RFD because it is
unlikely that *both* would pass if voted on together. However, if .cyber
passes, then Shadowrun will have a home without a separate newsgroup. If
.cyber passes, I will be voting "no" for .shadowrun; if .cyber fails and
Joshua starts eliminating Shadowrun stuff again, I will vote "yes" for
.shadowrun.


In the end, if you don't like seeing BattleTech or Shadowrun posts, learn
how to use a kill file like the rest of us do.

--Rat
||||| | | | |  |  |  |   |   |    |    |    |   |   |  |  |  |  | | | | | |||||
Northeastern's Stainless Steel Rat          ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu
There are very few personal problems which cannot be solved with a suitable
application of high explosives.
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.advocacy
From: elandal@archtwr.tower.nullnet.fi (Ismo Peltonen)
Subject: Re: Shadowrun Discussion on .advocacy (related to the .cyber RFD)
Organization: Chambers of the Archmage
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:15:11 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Christina Johnson (johnson1@cs.uwp.edu) wrote:
: while I would be really happy with a shadowrun specific group, i would be
: more than pleased with merely including shadowrun in a cyber group. 
: However, when I was first told of these newsgroups, i was told that the
: .cyber group didn't welcome shadowrun material, and to direct my shadowrun
: questions to .misc.

  Hmm. I believe I did mention SR discussion being welcomed to the .cyber
group if it was to be moved to r.g.f hierarchy. Of course it may be that
You are referring to the creation of r.g.cyber, not the RFD about r.g.f.c
I posted 10 days ago.

: Was this because this is simply the way it had
: evolved, or did the cyber folks really not want the sr material in their
: group?

  There are many who don't think SR is cyberpunk because it has magic
and metahuman (often called demihuman) races. I'm not sure how many and
if they would vote against r.g.f.cyber because SR was included.
-- 
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