HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hpa@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
Subject: Re: 600Meg CD's and file systems
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Organization: You must be kidding!
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:29:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.221746.22064@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> of comp.os.linux,
  lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
> I need to setup file systems on 600Meg CD's, this would require 10
> normal Minix partitions :-) Unfortunitly thats kind of yucky expecially
> if I need to mount all of them when a CD is changed. Will the Extended
> FS support 600meg disks? 

Yes, it will.

> I saw some stuff about it using a free list instead of bitmaps? Is this
> still the case? Has anything been done to prevent fragmentation? Xenix
> has a serious fragmentation problem because of the free list stuff.

Well, EFS2 will have a bitmap instead.

But really, when you write CD's, do you mean CD-ROM?  If so, the ISO9660
and Rock Ridge file systems have been ported to Linux although they are not
in the default kernel.

	/hpa

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alawrenc@sobeco.com (a.lawrence)
Subject: Re: NEW: Support for Canadian French (CF) Keyboard
Reply-To: alawrenc@sobeco.com
Organization: Lawrence & Assc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 02:50:00 GMT
Keywords: kernel keyboard french patch

In <1992Oct5.013308.21682@wam.umd.edu> joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes:

>BTW, is Linux 8-bit clean?  What about bash?  For example, can I
>modify keyboard driver to use 8-bit chars, and then have 8-bit char
>file names?

From what I have seen so far, characters greater than 0x7F are rejected
at the shell prompt.  I don't know yet if this is bash, or the cooked
I/O routines.  I suspect the latter.  

There are no problems entering extended character codes with vi, but
joe seems to accept only 7-bit input.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:12:05 GMT

In article <3748@ra.nrl.navy.mil> eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale) writes:
>
>>TeX does have a future - as an output format created by wysiwyg X editors...
>
>	I like this idea.  As long as I can get output that looks just as sharp
>as with vanilla TeX, I am all in favor.
>
>-Eric
>
>
Actually there has been a man whose PhD project was dedicated to the
work. This guy, Pi-Hung Chen (sp?), graduated from UC Berkeley under
the advise of Michael Harrison. He is running a company doing such
kind of work, I believe. Since such kind of product has to be
commercialized, don't expect it to be free.



Wen-Chun Ni

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: NEW: Support for Canadian French (CF) Keyboard
Keywords: kernel keyboard french patch
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:33:08 GMT

In article <Oct.4.20.15.43.1992.5646@geneva.rutgers.edu> hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) writes:
>alawrenc@sobeco.com (a.lawrence) writes:
>
>While I'm glad that Linux is international, it seems that there are
>enough national keyboard setups that this doesn't belong in the
>kernel.  How about an ioctl to set up the keyboard, and a utility that
>reads a configuration file?

I agree.  I would put keyboard layouts and screen fonts in a file, and
select them via an ioctl (in fact, I wrote routines to this this for
screen fonts (Hebrew and Cyrilic), but via an ordinary sys call, not
an ioctl, because (for shame) I don't know how to implement ioctl's).
The advantages are that different VC's can have different setups, and
users with different needs can use the same kernel.  Comments?

BTW, is Linux 8-bit clean?  What about bash?  For example, can I
modify keyboard driver to use 8-bit chars, and then have 8-bit char
file names?

-Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: taudas@ais.org (Tony Audas)
Subject: how to get linux/SLS to recognize DOS5.0 floppies?
Summary: 16bit FAT - how?
Keywords: 16 FAT floppies
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:14:26 GMT

how do i tell linux that /dev/fd0 has a msdos 5.0 (16bit FAT) floppy?
i made it thru the SLS install by copying disks 3&4 to dos 3.3 (12FAT),
but that is not going to help me much with the other 11 disks or the
rest of my work.  thanks!  (i see how to reconfig mtools, but mount?)
From: simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: BUGS (even more minor)
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:18:54 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

It seems that the setting for NUM LOCK got lost when 0.98 Makefile
was released.  It would be nice to have it back.
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Who will handle publicity for Linux 1.0?
Keywords: Advertising
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:06:29 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <1992Sep28.232105.22949@cs.brown.edu> wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
>In article <3727@eastman.UUCP> talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes:
>>
>>You could always send Jerry Pournelle a copy of the SLS package.  I bet you'd
>>get your 15 page article! :)
>>
>
>I bet he will whine on the magazine: "U U U, I couldn't install the beast
>in my machine." for over 15 pages ;-) This guy doesn't even know how
>to install OS/2.
>
>Wen-Chun Ni

Of course he couldn't install it!  That's the point - we'd get our 15 page
review, but it wouldn't be in favor of Linux at all.  For self-aware entities
reading Byte, this is a *positive* review of Linux.  For the rest who listen
to what J.P. says...well, who knows....

--Brian
__________
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talley@acadia.kodak.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: thssgxd@iitmax.iit.edu (Gautam Das)
Subject: Xega problems
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:34:11 GMT

Hi Linuxers,

I finally got the right 15 to 9 pin cable for my Sony CPD1302 monitor (I
have no clue why sony cable had to be special...) and connected it to the
cheapo Wang Vga card that I got (produces 800x600 res though) and was able
to get Xega up.  BTW why call it Xega -- it did not work with my Everex ega
card. Should it be called Xvga instead?? 

Anyway I got Xega to come up. Twm and the menus come up fine. Xterms can be 
brought up -- no problem. But heres the snag. Whatever I type in xterm is 
echoed back properly. But output to commands are partially echoed e.g.
ls on / produces something like this:

# ls
  ail	bin	dev 	etc 	ome 	mnt 	nux 	usr   var
 cup	     tmp 
#

As you see M was dropped from Mail, home became ome, vmlinux  is nux
etc. .....

In vain I tried to use emacs. Same thing. Text is partially visible. The
menus (twm) work fine, and I could exit X gracefully. 

Anybody can help? Even though I was euphoric when I saw X comeup, in the
current state it is virtually useless. Is there any thing special
about termcap settings or something I am missing out? I have appended 
termcap stuff from the X distribution to the /etc/termcap file. So that
should be fine?? Or is it another hardware incompatibility?? Who knows!!!

Will appreciate any help. Thank you all. I greatly appreciate the Linux
development, and X11 support for vga. So I am not complaining. Just seeking
assistance.

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From: simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: GCC 4.1 and ISPELL
Date: 26 Sep 92 09:37:40 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

The GCC release contains ispell3.0.  The current post as prep.ai.mit.edu
only goes up to ispell 2.0.02.  


Where is the source for 3.0?
Is there an ispell.el available?

Thanks

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: n217cg@tamuts.tamu.edu (Scott Taylor)
Subject: Re: Problems with 0.98 and serial ports
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Summary: Same here
Keywords: internal modem, 0.98
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:05:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.215426.8186@engr.uark.edu> jaw7@engr.uark.edu (John A. Whitney) writes:
>   Well, last night I decided to upgrade from 0.97p2 to 0.98,
>so I got the source, compiled it without a problem (minus the
>SCSI drivers), and wrote the image out to the disk.  It boots
>just fine...except that it doesn't find my modem on /dev/ttys0
>anymore.  Other than that it runs perfectly.  It USED to find

I am having the same problem.  I upgraded from 0.96c pl2 to 0.98
(with SCSI), and now during bootup the serial code doesn't report
my internal modem (Zoom somthing-or-other, 2400 baud, IRQ 5, 
port 0x3e8).  However, it works fine; in fact, I am using it to
connect to the school system and type this message.  I changed
the modem's IRQ to 5 in serial.c, but that's all
I touched.  The serial code reported it in 0.96c pl2, with the
same IRQ change in serial.c; maybe some of the more refined 
serial port detection code in 0.98 isn't fooled by the modem's
serial chip (it's not a regular UART; it used to get reported as
a 16450).  Note that setserial reports its type as unknown, all
other specs are OK.

>my modem in 0.97p2, so I am assuming it was a code change that
>went wrong.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I might
>fix this problem?  Did I compile it wrong?
>

I don't think you compiled it wrong.  Does the modem actually work?

>John Whitney
>jwhitney@csesun0.seas.smu.edu

Scott Taylor
n217cg@tamuts.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gtb6038@summa.tamu.edu (BILES, GREG THOMAS)
Subject: mtools
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:29:00 GMT

HELP!  I can't get mtools to work at all with my HD.  My HD partition
is set up 0 - 730 cylinders for Linux and then 731-988 cylinders (type 6)
for DOS.  What do I have to add to my /etc/mtools to make it work?  Any
information would be greatly appreciated!

Greg

P.S.  I have Linux v96.c if that makes a diferance


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student))
Subject: Re: ed in linux
Keywords: ed, make depend, linux
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:18:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.143039.2893@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won) writes:
>hi.
>
>     I was trying to do a make depend on this X software and make depend gave
>me this
>Appending dependencies to Makefile
>ed: command not found
>
>Umm, am I missing something here?

Yes, at least one program - ed.
Get ed.c from tsx-11.mit.edu somewhere in sources.
(ed is a most known (and unused) editor for unix - it's
line-oriented.)

>
>
>Jae
>
>
>


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ppan@nobeltech.nobeltech.se (Per Andersson)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Organization: NobelTech AB
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:30:03 GMT

>	My college looked into geting Oracal. It alone cost more then their 
>ENTIRE software budget FOR THE WHOLE YEAR!! Not the kind of thing I'll
>be buying soon. 
Serious software cost money. Oracle is a real database system, and as other 
real systems such as VMS:s rdb, Ingres, Sybase etc. has a large development
budget which needs to be coverred. Oh, so Dbase is not expensive? Well, try
to use it with clients from VMS,MVS and Unix, at the same time....

Oh, well, for a cheap database facility under Unix, try dbm/gdbm.

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From: scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Local bus
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:10:53 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

Hi,

Could someone tell me if local bus motherboards work OK with linux?
Also, what would be better - 33Mhz 486 local bus motherboard
			   - 50 Mhz 486 without local bus

What sort of performance gains would I get in X with a local bus vidio
card or hard drive controller?

Cheers,

Scott.
From: devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Eric DeVolder)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: termcap entry for xterm (Xega to be specific)
Date: 29 Sep 1992 21:04:36 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I just installed Xega with little to no trouble.  However, I realized that
I do not have a termcap entry for xterm.  Could somebody please email me
the termcap entry they are using?  I get most of the text in the window, but
it is obvious that the termcap entry is not correct.

Thanks,
Eric

-- 
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devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
KSU Computing and Network Services
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: Obsolete article, obsolete thread :-) (Re: No /usr/local please)
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:14:20 GMT


In article <9209281576@gandalf.moria>
u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt) writes:

If obsolete means rubbish, then indeed you wrote it.


>Oh boy, can anybody explain me why this thread is here at all?  I see several
>things, none of them justifying that waste of bandwidth: 
>
>-  There are a few "distributions" for beginners.  Their maintainers can
>   decide about the structure, if discussion is needed then I am pretty sure
>   that joining a channel on the mailing list is better.

Nope. Everybody don't want to join to channels because they are not
correct place for Joe User -- mail list for 1.0 release 'standard'
is quite unimportant for average comp.os.linux readers.
Why to join to mail list for only *one* article on the subject.



>-  Intolerance of other philosophies about how a system should look like.
>   Change your system (you are root and have sources for everything) and
>   convince your friends *by e-mail or talk from face to face*.  If you think
>   that your articles will convince the world, then become a politician.

Nonsense. (or obsolete :-)

We are writing about official distribution, not about each
individual's personal taste.


>My directory structure is different from the usual one, it doesn't give
>me problems and I am satisfied with it.  And no, I will not post it to
>avoid flames.

But why then follow-up to alt.flame??


>Linux is a real UN*X.

Then we make a directory structure which is in majority of Unix systems.
(We could vote this, but the vote result is anyway the same as
we get by examining majority from Unix systems.)


Is Linus Torvalds the person who finally (eventually) decides what
directory structure the official version uses?
Will there be an official system (by the way)? (Linux 1.0?)
What is the biggest problems in making it?


Juhana Kouhia
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: n217cg@tamuts.tamu.edu (Scott Taylor)
Subject: Re: Okay, another CLISP problem (fatal!)
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Summary: Try version from ma2s2.mathematik
Keywords: lisp
Organization: Texas A&M  University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:13:37 GMT

In article <IemBjGa00YV9M8Vm1R@andrew.cmu.edu> sg2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott R. Grabowski) writes:
>Hello, again......
>
>Well, I followed the instructions that were posted the other day by Ziad
>Najem regarding not being able to finish the compile of CLISP.  So then
>I followed the rest of the instructions in the README and hurridly went
>to run Lisp (since my program is due Thursday ;-)  Anyways, I keep
>getting this error that continuously scrolls off the screen "reached
>line 743 in debug.d, etc." (sorry, don't have a copy of it in front of
>me).  At first, it was because I typed an incorrect file name to load. 
>However, then it crashed on a (should-be) working program.  So, I
>figured I would try it for (/ 2 0).  Same thing.  It appears that the
>error routines need fixed or something.  Anyone have a copy of CLISP up
>and running for Linux?  FYI, this is version .97pl5, 486/33, 4MB, IDE,
>VGA.
>

I ftp'ed the CLISP files from ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de a few 
weeks ago, followed the installation instructions in the README, and
now have CLISP running fine on my linux box.  I am running 0.96c pl2
and gcc 2.2.2; I think that if you are running gcc 2.2.2d you need a
patch (actually source for a required C function absent from the 
library) that was posted  here by Bruno Haible (one of the authors)
a couple weeks ago.

> ... .sig deleted ...

Scott Taylor
n217cg@tamuts.tamu.edu
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:59:54 GMT
Followup-To: /dev/null
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <KETIL.92Sep28210509@spurv.ii.uib.no> ketil@ii.uib.no writes:
>In article <3725@eastman.UUCP> talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes:
>
>BUT: Perhaps we could start letter campaigns to get more coverage for
>free software?  Mail a letter to Byte or whatever, ask for reviews etc
>of Gnu stuff, and other free software.

Please explain (via email :) why on earth Byte would voluntarily review, in
a positive way, free software that is superior to that sold by vendors who
use Byte to advertize their substandard (software) products.

>I'll stop *now* :-)

Me too. Really!

>--
> = Ketil Malde                     In real life:  ketil@ii.uib.no =
> = Nuke the whales!                    Honk if you love unicorns! =

--Brian
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.modems
From: hobbes@den.mmc.com ()
Subject: Anyone had success with Gateway Telepath modem and 386 Unix?
Originator: hobbes@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:30:09 GMT

Has anyone had any success using the new Gateway Telepath modem with
1)  Interactive UNIX 2.2 or later?
2)  Linux?
3)  386BSD?

If so, please e-mail me with your experiences, I will post a summary.

Thanx
Steve Camp
From: gbh@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (GBH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS... Will they now include XFree86???????????????????
Date: 4 Oct 1992 12:37:44 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Now that they have a driver for trident cards and other 
basic monochrome configurations will they make it possible
for a neerly pain free installation of Linux that will include
Xwindows that people with Trident and other cards can use?????

If so when do you think we will start seeing it on ftp sites????



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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Nic.funet.fi:pub/OS
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 06:13:35 GMT



A while ago people noticed that nic.funet.fi:pub/OS directory
doesn't exist -- I did write something but not the truth.

Yes, the pub/OS (as well as pub/sci, pub/graphics, pub/culture)
directories are temporily away due disk installations (and problems).
They are away currently at date Sep 28.

I maintain pub/graphics (computer graphics) directory so I have only
noticed the lack of graphics directory and didn't noticed the lack of
OS directory.


Juhana Kouhia
From: jrt@hawk.dsto.gov.au (John Terry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Still severe bugs in MS-DOS Filesystem ?
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:01:44 GMT

mrex@aix01.rz.fht-mannheim.de (Martin Rex) writes:

>I have been experiencing problems using MS-DOS formatted disks
>from linux (0.97pl1 and 0.97pl5).  Sometimes when I mount a floppy
>from linux, I get a garbled directory, with funny names of non-existing
>files (usually some special chars).  The last time it happend was tonight,
>when I mounted a 720K-formatted floppy (3.5").  It looked ok from MS-DOS
>(checkdisk), but the difference is (besides some other parameters)
>the number of directory slots in the root directory and the cluster size (?)
>Everything worked fine, when I used a formatted 1.44MB disk, but always
>when I mounted the 720K disk, I got an error from ls about a funny looking
>filename on the disk -- which was actually emtpy.

[... rest deleted ...]

I have also noticed what may be a related problem.  My work machine has
a 1.2M drive in A: and a 360K drive as B: connected through the same
cable to my HD controller card.  There is no problem with
using the A: drive, but the B: drive will only log correctly the first
disk I put in it.  Thereafter, no matter how many times I change the
disk, it continues to list the directory of the first disk.  This
happens irrespective of whether I 'umount' and 'mount -tmsdos' or just
use the Mtools package, so I assume it's kernel related.  Any one had
similar experience or ideas as to the cause?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X)
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:50:09 GMT
Keywords: UNIX

I dont think unix is dead.  Why because something like windows nt.  Which they
were comparing to unix cannot perform on 8088's and dumb terminals.  To run
a unix all you need is a character based machine and a connection to a 
server, whether via modem or high speed connection.  You also can multitask
on these minimal systems too.