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From: dmiller@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU (Prof. David Miller)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PCSA MAIL looping?
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:29:35 GMT
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Netters:
 
For all but one VMS account, Pathworks MAIL (V4.1.005) works fine. But, for
one account, PCSA$Mail_wxyz loops. Assuming the problem is the user's, I've
renamed his *.mai files - PCSA$Mail still loops. When the uses logs into his
account and uses the DCL MAIL command, there are no apparent problems - users
can send to him and he is able to send messages too.
 
Suggestions?
 
I'm using VMS 5.4-3, PathWorks 4.1
 
Dave.
 
DMILLER@VAX1.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU
Bemidji (Minn) State University
From: bill@bill.ab.umd.edu (Bill Bame)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Pathworks performance vs Novell
Keywords: Pathworks, Novell
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:48:21 GMT
Reply-To: bill@office.ab.umd.edu
Organization: M.I.E.M.S.S.

>   We want to ask some questions about the "answer time" of Pathworks in
>   the environment that we describe below:
> 
>      -Microvax II
>      -Pathworks for DOS V 4.1

Without knowing more about your Microvax II (controllers, RAM, etc.) I can't
really judge, but my gut reaction is that a Microvax II doesn't have enough
power to be a good pathworks server.

> 
>      Client configuration:
> 
>      PC's 386 SX 20 with 3Mbytes
>      MS-DOS 5.0
>      QEMM 6.0
> 

How many?  What do these people do during a "typical" day?

> 
>       In the other hand, we have installed the same environment in a
>    Netware File Server (Novell) using the same network and we have proved
>    that there is a big reduction in seconds.

What kind of netware server?  Again, without details I can't make a valid
statement.  If I assume that this is a 80386/EISA box with lots of RAM,
a cacheing disk controller and fast disks, I'm not surprised that it
outperforms a pitiful antique uVax II (RQDX3/RD54?  UGH!).

> 
>       Has anyone got the same response-time with a VAX machine comparable
>    with a Novell Server? In the afirmative case, which kind of VAX machine
>    is using? Which are the principal parameters that can affect more di-
>    rectly in perfomance?

Although this isn't a fair comparison, I have a 3100/80 running 80 users and
a 3100/40 running 30 users.  I configured both of these servers with LOTS of
RAM, and FAST disk drives.  I also tuned the appropriate parameters (PCSA
and SYSGEN) based on periods of peak usage.  I don't have "hard" data (yet!),
but the 3100/40 seems to be roughly the same as a PS2/80-based novell server,
and the 3100/80 seems to outperform it (by a large margin).

My personal opinion is that the Novell/Pathworks choice should not be made on
general comparisons.  Novell servers work very differently than Pathworks
servers, and both have their strengths and weaknesses.  The only way to decide
between the two is to figure out what your users are doing (and want to do in
the future), and match the underlying requirements for those tasks with the
strengths and weaknesses of each server type.

>    Janet Dura   ofjanet@si.upc.es
>    Abel Agelet  ofabel@si.upc.es
> 
>    Universitat Politecnica de Catalunya (Barcelona-92)
> 
>    and remember...   "Amics per sempre"
>

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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: MASTERING INTERNET TOOLS
From: GELSON GOMES <GELSON@BRFAPESP.BITNET>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 00:10:00 BSC
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From: HSTAMS@CIPVAX.BIOLAN.UNI-KOELN.DE (Henning Stams)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: LAT and Ultrix - A major problem?
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:08:21 GMT
Organization: BIOLAN - COLOGNE UNIVERSITY (FRG)
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Hello,

we use PCSA 4.1 for DOS and PCSA 4.1 for VMS as well as PCSA 1.1 for ULTRIX.
Now we do some migrating from our VAX to a ULTRIX server. 
Besides the remote-boot (e.g. DISK services), all seemed to be o.k....
BUT: What about LAT?
It seems to me that PC printers can only be shared via LAT, not via CTERM or
others. The Client Command Reference manual speaks of setting a shared
printer for ULTRIX servers (in a VERY general way). Moreover, I found some
hints that LAT should be possible on ULTRIX servers (see lpr, some settings
refer to LAT).
Ah, I should mention, that of course the ULTRIX machine has DECNET phase IV
running.

NOTHING in the delivered documentation gives *ANY* hint how to activate LAT
on Ultrix File Servers or how to use it for shared PC-Printers like it is
described in VMS-Context (LATCP - create port etc...).

Does anybody know?     Henning (hstams@biolan.Uni-Koeln.DE)
From: LANWORKS@HUDCE0.BITNET ((Judy Constantine, 617495-0517))
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: LOTUS 123 R.3.1
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:54:03 GMT
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        We're running PW 4.0, and recently upgraded a user to
        Release 3.1 of Lotus.  Now the PC hangs at the title screen
        when 123 is started up.  Has anyone had this problem, or
        better yet, SOLVED this problem?  Lotus says it's an
        incompatibility with the PW drivers, or maybe QEMM.
        Any hints or suggestions would be welcome.
 
        Thanks,
                                        Judy Constantine
                                        Harvard University
                                        Div. of Continuing Education
 
                                        CONSTANT@HUDCE0.HARVARD.EDU
                                        CONSTANT@HUDCE0.BITNET
Xref: sparky vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks:2947 vmsnet.mail.pmdf:2399
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks,vmsnet.mail.pmdf
Subject: Re: Summary: Mail system to use with PathWorks
From: allebrandi@inland.com (Tom Allebrandi)
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:59:51 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <BvE5JC.2p4@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, martinea@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau) writes:
> 	I am looking at Microsoft mail for internal use but I also need a gateway to
> VMSmail. Is there such a thing ?
> thanks.

If you ask Microsoft, they will tell you to get their X.400 gateway.
The problem with that is that I believe you then need Message Router
and MRGATE to move the X.400 mail to and from VMSmail. (If I am wrong
about this please correct me!)

As luck would have it, I am currently designing an MS Mail <-> VMSmail
gateway for our company. We hope to go straight to the MS Mail Post
Office via the Application Programming Interface (API).

I don't yet know if the gateway, presuming that we build it, will
be available outside of our Company. Drop me a mail message in
a few weeks when I should know more.

--- Tom
Tom Allebrandi             | Mail guru   - DECUS UUCP Development Team
Inland Steel Research Labs | NFS grunt   - CMU/Tek-IP
East Chicago, IN           | Chairperson - VMSnet Working Group, DECUS VAX SIG
219 399 6306               | Internet:  allebrandi@inland.com
DECUServe: allebrandi      | UUCP:      ...!uunet!inland!allebrandi
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Can MS-LAN Manager and Pathworks/DOS Live Together?
From: "(bachism)" <BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU>
Date: 30 Sep 1992 14:20:43 -0400
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We are about to undertake the same option.  We have a LAN Manager network we
want to put on pathworks for TCP/IP the reason we would like to have both
running is that a few of the PCs, even though they will be running Pathworks
want to have access to the WordPerfect Mail on the LanManager Network.  In
order to do this, I need to have a PC that will run both Netbeui and TCP/IP
(Pathworks) and communicate with both my Pathworks and LanManager Network.
If anyone has got this working PLEASE RESPOND, even if you have it working on
DECNET, or if anyone has any suggestions I am all ears.
 
Current Configurations
 
Pathworks 4.1 for DOS
Pathworks 2.0 for TCP/IP
Pathworks 1.1 for the Macintosh
VMS 5.5
VAX Station 4000 Model 60
DEC 420 PCs w/ 4 MB RAM
 
Beth Bachism
PC Systems Specialist
The Johns Hopkins University
Development Information Systems
From: jasper@vax.path.ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: pathwors for mac 1.1 and sys 7
Date: 4 Oct 92 11:30:23 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Molecular Biology Data Centre
Nntp-Posting-User: jasper

In article <1992Oct2.040106.23888@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, harris@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::harris) writes:
> 
>     Re: "ATKINSON@URVAX.BITNET" -< pathwors for mac 1.1 and sys 7 >- 
>     
>>    We've been having some problems while upgrading our Macs to System 7.
>>    What we don't have is any clue if we are having system 7 problems, or a
>>    combination of problems between system 7, and Pathworks for Mac 1.1.

Please!

>>    Anyone who has been successful at this, feel free to chip in to the
>>    conversation. I'm trying to schedule some daily time to read this list,
>>    but no promises.

Well: calling outer space and hoping you are listening!

To which Bob Harris very fairly said:
     
>     Without knowing what your problems are, it is very difficult to
>     diagnose them.
>     
>     To the best of our knowledge, PATHWORKS for VMS (Macintosh) V1.1 works
>     well with System 7.

That is my experience, using everything from SE's to IIci's and cards from 
Apple, Shiva and Asante, the only problems we have had really are related to 
using Dayna cards to attach LaserWriter IIf's to the network (these work fine 
using II NT series machines). The IIg's are fine, (no reason to buy IIf's)

However, try checking you have reinstalled your ethernet drivers to be Phase II 
AppleTalk and system 7 compatible. You *must* remove the Network and EtherTalk 
2 applications, otherwise the reinstall will not replace them. And check you 
have set your laserwriter drivers to be APPLEDICT71 in the MSA database.


regards,    jasper

Jasper Rees
Oxford University Molecular Biology Data Centre
Sir William Dunn School of Pathology
Oxford University

jasper@vax.path.ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: apple@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Kathleen Applegate)
Subject: Re: Looking for VT Terminal Emulation Software
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date:  2 Oct 92 15:49:44 GMT

nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU (Nalley, Gary K.) writes:

>> A VT3xx is NOT a vt100, and that is what kermit emulates.
>>
>> Alain Martineau
>> Hydro Quebec
>> martineau@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca
> 
>Kermit v3.11 *does* emulate a VT320.  (At least my copy does)  What
>MSKERMIT.INI are you using?  If you don't have an INI which configures it as
>such it will *default* to VT100.
               ^^^^^^^
Negative.  It defaults to VT320, or at least the version I use
does (Ver. 3.12).

Incidentally, version 3.12 has just been officially released and
is no longer considered beta.

--
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Marshall Space Flight Center             Voice:  (205) 544-7656
From: GOODWIN@SMCVAX.BITNET (Dave Goodwin)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: File Service Behavior
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:21:00 GMT
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I have an interesting problem; perhaps someone has an insight into this
before I call DEC.
 
If a user connects to their account and attempts to copy DOS files to the
VAX, it allows them to copy only 2 files, then returns a FILE CREATION error.
If I connect to their account using the %SYSTEM construct, I can copy files
all day without difficulty.  The user's quota is fine with plenty of space
available.  The size of the files being transferred seem irrelevant; they
can transfer two small files, or two really large ones.
 
Any hints are most welcome.  Thanks...
 
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: egntoh@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Toh Guan Nge)
Subject: usenet news reader
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:25:14 GMT



is there a usenet news reader run on top of decnet to allow reading
news on an ultrix news server? Does one come with the pathwork for dos
package?

--
Toh Guan Nge, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore
Internet Email: egntoh@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet   Email: egntoh@ntuvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: A nice Laser Printer
From: TOM@FANDMA.BITNET
Date: 30 Sep 1992 09:16:03 -0500
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>Hi,
>I am looking for recommendations for the purchase of a new laser
>printer for use on my pathworks network.  I would like it to hook
>into the ethernet (LAT driver, I guess).  I want to print to it
>from dos machines and macintoshes thru some VMS queues.  Black/White
>or GreyScale.
>
>Anyone particularly pleased with their own set-ups?
 
We're using the HP IIIsi in that application - no problems, and will probably en
   d up using a bank of five to replace our high speed Ion Deps.
 
 
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From: jackson@BDRC.BD.COM
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Summary: Mail system to use with Pat
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:28:00 GMT
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 ----------
 
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 --
 
 
        I am looking at Microsoft mail for internal use but I also need a
gatewa
y to
VMSmail. Is there such a thing ?
thanks.
 
Alain Martineau
martineau@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca
Hydro Quebec
11th floor East Tower Complexe Desjardins
PO Box 10000, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H5B 1H7
==============================================
 
 
We use an SMTP gateway to interface Microsoft mail to both Internet and our
VMS mail users.  This works fairly well but has been a source of headaches
due to the lack of return receipt through the gateways.  We would prefer an
interface that was more ful featured.
 
We have not been able to get the Microsoft Mail for PC networks MAC Client
to work reliabliably on our Pathworks network.  It will sometimes work
without a hitch and at other times refuse to login.  I would be interested
in hearing from others who use are using the MAC client on Pathworks.
 
Gene Jackson
jackson@bdrc.bd.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: marten@ilt.fhg.de (Lutz Marten)
Subject: RE: Pathworks and Network based FAX services
Reply-To: marten@ilt.fhg.de
Organization: FhG-ILT
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 13:47:31 GMT


We are using an easy to use FAX-Service from Systems Design Agency, Bahlingen Germany, Tel.: *49 7663 50007. 
It depends on a PC-server, which is connected to a file service via Pathworks, in which you wrote a file with the sending information, e.g. number, resolution, sendtime senddate. You can manage all from a MS-Windows based software,a VMS or ULTRIX based one. It's easy to handle and modify.
--
# Lutz Marten,  Postmaster and general dogsbody 
# Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft Institut fuer Lasertechnik 
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# HEPNET: 13533::52714::MARTEN, Phone: +49/241/8906-112, -0
From: nallegk@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU (Nalley, Gary K.)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Performance Problems with File Services
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:49:23 GMT
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> We decided (with pathworks 2.2) that remote booting is a BAD idea.  It works
> very nicely, but puts a lot of strain on the server.  We attempted to train
> everyone to leave their PCs on all the time, but it just didn't work.  Power
> failures were a nightmare - the server would grind to a halt as 50+ PCs tried
> to grab the same files at the same time.
 
Remote boot from an InfoServer, thats what we do.  We have a (4) VAX 4000
series cluster (3) 4000-200s and (1) 4000-500 that do PATHWORKS and handle
about 150 interactive users at the same time.  The InfoServer 150 doing LAD
services smokes the VAXs.  Give it a good amount of memory and a couple of fast
drives and it will fly.  We regulary handle a class of students walking into a
30 PC lab and turning them *all* on at the *same* time.  Even during the day
when a majority of our other 70 PCs are up.
 
	+-------------------------------------------------------+
	|   Gary. K Nalley	   Network Specialist           |
	|   Computer Services      nallegk@okra.millsaps.edu    |
	|   Millsaps College       nalley@decus.org             |
	|   1701 N. State St.      Fax:    601.974.1168         |
	|   Jackson, MS 39210      Voice:  601.974.1140		|
	+-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Pathworks and Network based FAX services
From: Gregg Pentecost X6228 IC44 <PENTECOST@BROOK.BITNET>
Date: 30 Sep 1992 15:06:44 -0400
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> Does anyone on this list have experience setting FAX services for PW users?
 
I'm starting to look into this myself.  The 9/28/92 issue of PC Week has
an article on Net Satisfaction.  In the comparative spec chart, it says
that LanFax Redirector from Alcom Corp supports the "DEC" network
operating system.  The phone number for Alcom is 415-694-7070.  When I
get a chance to get more information, I'll post something to the list.
 
Gregg.
 
PENTECOST@BROOK.BITNET
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Another PW version question
From: "GWDGV1::MOELLER" <moeller@GWDGV1.DNET.GWDG.DE>
Date: 06 Oct 1992 17:41:23 +0100
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This may sound weird, but maybe someone else has tried it out:
 
I'm running PATHWORKS for VMS V3.1 on VMS 5.4-3 without troubles
("user" file services *only*, no LAD and whistles -
this VAX is not the primary PC server).
 
Will the same version still work on VMS 5.5-x in this restricted sense?
 
P.S. I KNOW that 3.1 is anything but the current version!
 
Wolfgang J. Moeller, GWDG, D-3400 Goettingen, F.R.Germany | Disclaimer ...
PSI%(0262)45050352008::MOELLER      Phone: +49 551 201516 | No claim intended!
Internet: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de   | This space intentionally left blank.
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Notebooks on ethernet
From: "Gordon Cressman RTI (919) 541-6363" <GMC%SSIDW1@RTI.BITNET>
Date: 02 Oct 1992 15:41:52 -0400
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> >We want to connect PC notebooks to our pathworks network preferably through
> >ethernet. We tried this 2 years ago using a device plugged into the parallel
> >printer port but without much success.
> >
> >Is anyone doing this successfully now? Any suggestions?
 
Our network staff routinely use Zircom parallel port/Ethernet adapters with
success.  Several new notebook computers, including Zenith's ZNote systems,
have Ethernet adapters built-in.  I believe the ZNote's is a UTP port,....
yup, it is.  A few notebook accessory makers also make Ethernet adapters
for the proprietary expansion buses on some models, such as Toshiba's.
Check with ComputerLand or some other large vendor for names.
 
-gmc
From: SYSMGR@IPG.PH.KCL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: UCX + Pathworks interactions
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:36:19 GMT
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Originally-to: EARN"lanworks@bitnet.miamiu"
Originally-from: SYSMGR       "Nigel"
Mailer:        Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

Can anyone tell me whether it is possible to shutdown and restart UCX, without
having to do the same to Pathworks? Most of our PCs use the DECNET transport,
only a few use IP, but after a UCX restart I can't find a way to get pathworks
serving over IP again, short of a full PW shutdown and restart.
(UCX 2.0, PW 4.1-1 by the way).
 
		Thanks in advance,
 
		Nigel Arnot
 
		NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk   (internet)
		NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet        (bitnet)