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From: wday@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Mr. Yeh should make an apology
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:07:07 GMT


In article <2AD941E5.18956@news.service.uci.edu>, yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:

> I apologize for posting my job-related, political-like article to this group,

              [lotsa stuff deleted]

> Also, there is a frequently asked question, which is "why do you stay in this
> contry?".  My answer is: If I cannot stay here until I agree to sell my 
> country, I will leave.  Otherwise, I will keep looking for a place where
> my expertise can be used.  Even George Bush said during last night's debate
> that he did not like those who "publically demonstrate to against their
> home country in a foreign territory".

Please do not make the mistake of thinking that George Bush speaks for
everyone in this country, or that his views reflect the views of the majority
of the people in this country, Mr. Yeh.

There is room in our country for both you and for the students that you so
thoroughly despise.  That, and the ability to critisize ourselves without
mistaking such critical words for treason or sedition, is what makes this
country different from the middle empire.

  Wayne Day
     University of North Texas
     internet:  wday@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
     hamnet:    kf5zc

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: rnace@halcyon.com (Roger Nace - Excell Data Corp.)
Subject: Short-term PC Tech Support  Seattle WA
Organization: Excell Data Corporation 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:53:22 GMT

*** URGENT *** HELP *** NEEDED ***


3 people needed to provide technical PC support to prepare for COMDEX.
Work is in Seattle, Wa area with approx. 1-week at COMDEX in Las Vegas.
Assignment is temporary - 6 weeks of work - Immediate start. Potential
for follow-on work.
 

Candidates need to be able to set up PC equipment on a PC network.
Must have a knowledge of MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, and be able to load,
install, and configure a wide-variety of application software and
equipment.   Candidates will need to be present at COMDEX; must be neat
in appearance and have good verbal communications skills.

Pay: $10-$12/hour. Overtime: $15-$18/hr. There will be PLENTY of
overtime.
 
Excell Data Corporation
Contact: Rick Loya
Ph: (206)527-1890
FAX (206)527-0120

rnace@excell.com


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,ba.jobs.offered
From: danielho@netcom.com (Daniel Ho)
Subject: VHDL sythesis cookbook contract
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: VHDL, sythesis
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:35:12 GMT

We have a need to develop a VHDL sythesis cookbook for designers to
get familiar with VHDL sythesis.  The cookbook should be filled with
examples and reference work that can be used by a designer.  The cookbook
needs to be completed in 2 to 3 months.

The person we are looking for should have
	o  VHDL fluency
	o  Sythesis expertise
	o  Good communication and writing skills

Please reply to this account, or call 408-437-7763.


Daniel Ho
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: majec@cactus.org (Majec Systems)
Subject: Short Term Contracts in Fun Capital
Keywords: SVR3
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:37:53 GMT




Contract positions immediately available:

Majec Systems is a 5 year old contract services company. We are programmer 
owned and managed. We have several positions open for experienced  SVR3 
internals programmers. These positions are in Austin Texas fun capital of the 
universe... well one of the fun capitals anyway. 

So if you are immediately available and know your way around the SVR3 kernel 
give us a call at 512-452-1138 or fax your resume to Tom White at 512-452-6922. 

These contracts are 3 month slots and the status of extensions can be explored 
with the client at the interview stage.

We look forward to hearing from all interested parties.

Ed Guinn


Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:3735 misc.jobs.offered:12292
From: GeorgeD@cup.portal.com (George C Domenikos)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: VAX RDB, DECFORMS, COBOL Openings (Chicago)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 10:39:31 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Distributed Technologies Corporation (DTC) has two openings in the Chicago are
for 
reas: 
     -VAX RDB
     -COBOL
     -DECFORMS

For more information please contact DTC at:
Tel: (617) 684-0060
Fax: (617) 684-0072
DTC is an equal opportunity employer
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: alanh@cup.portal.com (Alan E Hattman)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: Test Engineer-Ntwrk Mgmt, C, Tandem & Sun-Seattle WA (Broker)
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 15:48:23 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

****************************************************************************

  Mini-Systems Associates                 Branch Manager: Sally Kernan
  12509 Bellevue-Redmond Road, Ste. 100       Telephone: (206)637-0102
  Bellevue, WA 98005                                Fax: (206)637-0087
                              Email: alanh@cup.portal.com (ASCII only)
****************************************************************************

                               Position# 951SK

POSITION TITLE      : SW TEST ENGINEER
SKILL REQUIREMENTS  : C, Network Management, Tandem and Sun HW

LOCATION OF CONTRACT: Seattle              START DATE: Jan 1993
CONTRACT PAY RATE   : 25 -30/hr            LENGTH    : 12 Months+

                Test Engineer - long term opportunity

                  >> Email responses will be forwarded.<<<
                     Please mention the Postion number.
                  For fastest response call Sally directly.
From: mpatrick@tri.com (Mike Patrick)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: DC AREA Contract/6-12 mos/(BROKER)
Keywords: IEF, UNIX, C, Client Server Software
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:41:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Registry Inc.  Wellesley, MA  02181



******PLEASE RESPOND TO THE ADDRESS AT THE END OF THIS POST*******

The Registry, a national software consulting company, is currently staffing
a 6-12 month contract assignment in the DC area.

The current project needs full life-cycle developers with IEF, UNIX, C,
Procapper, GUI, Easel, Client server type applications expertise.   
This assignment requires experienced programmers only, mid to senior level,
and the rate range is from $35-$50 dollars/hour depending on expertise with
the above named tools.

***SORRY NO ENTRY LEVEL POSITIONS AT THIS TIME, this position requires US
Citizenship or US Permanent Residency.*****

PLEASE RESPOND TO:

Darcie Buchanan
The Registry, Inc.
8260 Greensboro Drive
McLean, VA  22102

dbuchana@tri.com
703/734-9119
703/790-8467 (FAX)
From: tsang@futon.SFSU.EDU (Joanna Tsang)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Mr. Yeh should make an apology
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:48:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics
Organization: San Francisco State University

Hi, Folks!

	This is misc.jobs.contract, not alt.politics.  Please take this
discussion elsewhere.  I'm trying to find a job!  (Note the followup
line.)

	BTW:  Mr. Yeh has a right to his own opinion.  But if he chooses
to make his views public, he will have to deal with the consequences.
He's obviously made his bed (or coffin. :-)  Let him lay in it.  I don't
necessarily agree with his viewpoints, but those are his opinions.  What
everyone else believes in is up to them.

	Any good jobs out there for a SQA person in the Bay Area?
Please write me.

							-Joanna
==============================================================================

In article <1992Oct12.134548.9351@walter.cray.com> sonic@cray.com (Curtis L. Swanson) writes:
>
>Shannon Yeh writes:
>
>*I apologize for posting my job-related, political-like article to this group,
>*if readers feel that my message should be posted to other groups.  But I am
>*NOT going to apologize for the content of my articel, because my opinion
>*was not formed within one night or two nights.  I have been spending years
>*to watch those students' behave, and I decided to hate them--even someone puts
>*knife on my neck, my view still cannot be changed.
>
>     OK.
>
>*Mr. Smith, I understand that I am posing hart time on my countrymen, but if
>*those countrymen sell my home country and my other countrymen, the only I can
>*do is to fight with them to the very end.
>
>     What do you mean by sell?
>
>[...]
>
>*My final words on the subject issue is:
>*      Let's forget those political *lisms (capitalism, communism)!
>*      If people are not loyal to their home country, 	they will not 
>*      be loyal to their new country, either.
>
>     There are many reasons (some valid, others not) for not being loyal to
>     your home country and it cannot be assumed that loyalty will not be 
>     established to their new home.
>
>*In other words, I (shannon Yeh) am loyal to my home country, and I will be
>*loyal to my new country if I decide to change my citizenship.  (but it is
>*always hard for a responsible man to make such decision.)
>
>*Apologetically,
>
>*shannon
>*-------
>
>
>***  Curt Swanson  ***  sonic@romulus.cray.com  ***  IOTTMCO  *********
>HOME:n - That mythical place where you can go and relax.......
>I'd rather be in a coma.........


-- 
Joanna Tsang						tsang@futon.sfsu.edu
San Francisco State University				tsang@toaster.sfsu.edu

This mesage will self-destruct in...*BOOM!*...five seconds.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: seek@world.std.com (SEEK)
Subject: DIAGNOSTICS CONTRACT FOR WESTBORO MASS AREA refDIAGNOSTICS+recruiter+
Reply-To: seek@world.std.com
Organization: SEEK Consulting Companies Ltd
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:04:59 GMT


******************************************************************************
*  this is not an entry level role  *   please send resume in ascii format
******************************************************************************
*  local engineers are preferred    *   all locals will get a response back
*******************************************************************************
 
      I have put a distribution limiter on this posting for "ne" as we are
      trying to work with local New England engineers on this requirement.
 
AVAILABILITY:     IMMEDIATE
 
LOCATION:         WEST OF BOSTON OUT ON THE ROUTE 495 PERIMETER
 
RATE:             $40-45/HOUR
 
DURATION:         4 MONTHS AT THE OUTSET
 
TECHNICAL:        68836,68837,68838,AND 68839 CHIP SET EXPERIENCE, "C", 
                  SUN/SPARC UNIX, 5+ YEARS INDUSTRY WORK, BSEE OR MSEE,
                  FDDI PROJECT EXPERIENCE VERY NECESSARY
 
FOLLOW-UP:        seek@world.std.com
                  1-617-246-8246 (fax)
                  1-617-246-8234 (phone)
 
CONTACT:          Kevin McLaughlin
From: lloyd-ritter@cup.portal.com (Lloyd-Ritter and Associates)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: SNA/LU6.2 or SNA 3270/unix/token ring,sbay,recruiter
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 92 15:32:43 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

location-sbay                           rate-45-55
start-yesterday                         length-4mo
skills-SNA LU6.2 or SNA 3270/unix/test
Great Co/great team

call JAYA at 415-964-6644 fax 964-8719     no e-mail please
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: rksoni@IASTATE.EDU (Rajesh K Soni)
Subject: List of professional recruiters for mechanical engineers
Keywords:  professional mechanical
Reply-To: rksoni@IASTATE.EDU (Rajesh K Soni)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:23:53 GMT

I am looking for list of professional recruiters for mechanical engineers in the
area of design, m
anufacturing, controls and graphics applications.

Appreciate if anyone can provide some information.
Thank you


--
-- Rajesh K Soni                              rksoni@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Mr. Yeh should make an apology
Reply-To: uunet.uu.net!weyrich!orville
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:10:28 GMT

In article <2AD941E5.18956@news.service.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh) writes:
>Also, there is a frequently asked question, which is "why do you stay in this
>contry?".  My answer is: If I cannot stay here until I agree to sell my 
>country, I will leave.  Otherwise, I will keep looking for a place where
>my expertise can be used.  Even George Bush said during last night's debate
>that he did not like those who "publically demonstrate to against their
>home country in a foreign territory".

IMHO it is just as distasteful for a foreign national to publically demonstrate
against his/her host country [i.e. your behaviour in this forum]. Not that your
behaviour isn't protected by the Bill of Rights in this country, but just that
it is in very poor taste. I suggest that you get your act together and not
use the freedom of speach offered in this country to attack your compatriots
for seeking their own freedoms, such as the freedom to peacefully assemble in
Tienamin Square without being gunned down.

If you feel strongly for your country, perhaps you can convey to it's leaders
that people in the U.S. do NOT approve of their behaviour or of the current
balance of trade, and that in order to protect American jobs there is 
strong sentiment to cut off your homeland until such time as it treats us and
it's own citizens in a fair and respectful manner.

orville

--------------------------------------   **************************************
Orville R. Weyrich, Jr.                        Weyrich Computer Consulting
Certified Data Processor                     POB 5782, Scottsdale, AZ 85261
Certified Systems Professional                   Voice: (602) 391-0821
Certified Computer Programmer            Internet: orville%weyrich@uunet.uu.net
--------------------------------------   **************************************
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: growing number of contract-seekers depricated
Keywords: don't post unless you are buying, not selling, services
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:47:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <BvrA7F.4Dw@world.std.com> jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.052616.29395@telebit.com> brunner@telebit.com (Eric Brunner) writes:
>>The subject line _should_ say it all, but dollars to doughnuts it needs to
>>be spelled out. Misc.jobs.contract is for solicitation of offers to under
>>take non-employee work -- this means that someone with money wants to buy
>>temporary time and/or talent, they post here.
>
>This is certainly one proper use of the group.
>
>>
>>Misc.jobs.contract is _not_ a cheap way to advertize one's availability
>>to do work, though it is a _very_ effective way to make it known that one
>>is without a clue.
>
>I don't remember any restriction like that in the group charter.  Anyone
>have a copy handy?
>
>People post their availability here regularly.  It probably doesn't
>get them replies from anyone but headhunters and body shops, but I
>don't see any reason to stop them.

If Eric had bothered to read the charter of misc.jobs.contract, he would have
noticed that it is intended for discussion of *all* aspects of contracting,
including both offers of contracting work and solicitation of such offers.
If he'd like to change the organization of the newsgroup, he's certainly
welcome to initiate it through the usual mechanism (RFD, CFV, etc.). 
Otherwise, he's welcome to purchase the clue he gratuitously offered
for everyone else's consumption.

BTW: I know of several individuals who've been moderately successful in
     obtaining work via postings in this group.

Steve
Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:3627 ne.jobs:1008
From: seek@world.std.com (David A Reilly)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,ne.jobs
Subject: RISC BASED SOFTWARE (I960) DEVELOPMENT ON RT.495
Summary: long term contract for I960 experience (recruiter)
Keywords: I960/firmware/streams/link layer comms
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:12:27 GMT
Expires: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: Kevin McLaughlin
Distribution: ne
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA


          **************************************
          *      2 CONTRACT ROLES OPEN FOR     *
          *      I960 SOFTWARE ENGINEERS       * 
          **************************************
 
AVAILABILITY:      IMMEDIATE
 
LOCATION:          WEST OF BOSTON ON RT. 495
 
RATES:             $50-60 HOUR
 
TECHNICAL:         I960 CHIP EXPERIENCE IS A MUST, FIRMWARE, UNIX, STREAMS
                   LINK LAYER LEVEL COMMS DEVELOPMENT, HOST-UNIX INTERACTION
                   DIAGNOSTICS, PORTING DEBUGGERS, TCP/IP
 
ADDITIONAL:        (THESE ARE NOT ENTRY LEVEL ROLES)
 
FOLLOW-UP:         seek@world.std.com
                   1-617-246-8234 (phone)
                   1-617-246-8246 (fax)
 
CONTACT:           Kevin McLaughlin
From: igo@infomash.simbirsk.su (Igor Gennadievich Obidin)
Subject: RUSSIAN COMPANIES ARE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:09:44 GMT
Reply-To: igo@infomash.simbirsk.su
Organization: INFOMASH


Drear sirs,

If You are looking for a partner in Russia,  our company  will  be
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If You subscribe to our services, You will be able to:
- get  full  mailing  addresses  of  local  companies in specified
business areas and data about their products and services;
- place information about Your company to  be  sent  over  to  our
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- get in touch and correspond with  Your local  partners  via  our
computer network;
- become an authorized dealer of our company,  getting information
fot furher distribution in Your area on cotractual basis.

To get registered as a subscriber, You need to:
- provide the following information:  main business areas of  Your
company,  Your  possible  interests  in  Russia  and/or  ex-Soviet
republics, full mailing address;
- pay a registration fee of USD 500.

Once  You  become  a  suscriber, You will get quarterly updates on
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Our  company  can  configure  our  information  services  to  Your
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If You decide to subscriber to our services, please pay USD 500 by
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Incombank  (Povolzje  Branch),  Moskow (S.W.I.F.T. BIC. INCOSUMM),
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Please  confirm  Your  intention to subscribe  to our services and
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Pone:   (8422)31-34-01 or (8422)34-98-72
Fax:    (8422)31-39-30
Telex:  412536  MIKRO SU
E-mail: igo@infomash.simbirsk.su
From: lloyd-ritter@cup.portal.com (Lloyd-Ritter and Associates)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: MAC tech support/4D a plus,Texas,recruiter
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:14:22 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

location- Texas                          rate-25-30
start-immed                              length-6mo
skills-Mac tech support must and exp. with 4D a plus

Good communication (verbal) skills necessary.


Call Rene at 415-964-6644, fax 964-8719
No e-mail please
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: Mr. Yeh should make an apology
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:14:13 GMT

I apologize for posting my job-related, political-like article to this group,
if readers feel that my message should be posted to other groups.  But I am
NOT going to apologize for the content of my articel, because my opinion
was not formed within one night or two nights.  I have been spending years
to watch those students' behave, and I decided to hate them--even someone puts
knife on my neck, my view still cannot be changed.

Mr. Smith, I understand that I am posing hart time on my countrymen, but if
those countrymen sell my home country and my other countrymen, the only I can
do is to fight with them to the very end.

Also, there is a frequently asked question, which is "why do you stay in this
contry?".  My answer is: If I cannot stay here until I agree to sell my 
country, I will leave.  Otherwise, I will keep looking for a place where
my expertise can be used.  Even George Bush said during last night's debate
that he did not like those who "publically demonstrate to against their
home country in a foreign territory".

My final words on the subject issue is:
	Let's forget those political *lisms (capitalism, communism)!
	If people are not loyal to their home country, 	they will not 
	be loyal to their new country, either.

In other words, I (shannon Yeh) am loyal to my home country, and I will be
loyal to my new country if I decide to change my citizenship.  (but it is
always hard for a responsible man to make such decision.)

Apologetically,

shannon
-------
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: sdesai@netcom.com (Sujay Desai)
Subject: Multi-media/QA/Xwindows/Sun
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:12:08 GMT

We are looking for a UNIX QA engineer to work at a Palo Alto based
third-party software firm.

Experience desired: UNIX, black-box testing, X window application testing
                    good knowledge of shell scripting and would be nice
                    if the candidate had multi-media experience.

The contract is 2-3 months, possibility of extension.
Salary commensurate with experience 

We need to fill this position very quickly! Please contact either
me or my associate David Clark at Taos Mountain Software Headquarters.

Sorry college grads, this is not an entry level position. 

Sujay Desai
sdesai@netcom.com
(805) 756-3845

OR

DAvid Clark
TAos Mountain Software
415-961-2100
dclark@netcom.com
From: laurad@kenda.mv.com (Laura dos Santos)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: ***UNIX Systems/Appliations Tester***
Distribution: usa  
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 13:54:39 GMT
Organization: KENDA Systems, Inc.


Greetings, 
 
KENDA Systems, Inc. is an international software organization, specializing
in placing quality computer consultants for a wide variety of companies
throughout North America and Europe.       

Currently, my New York Office has an opening for a UNIX System/Applications 
Tester to work within a windowing/RDB environment.

For immediate consideration, call Bob K. @ (212) 599-6969

Regards,
Laura
Laura dos Santos				Telephone: (603) 898-7884
laurad@kenda.mv.com				Address:   KENDA Systems, Inc.
						           1 Stiles Rd.
						           Salem, NH 03079
From: bwilliam@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Brenda Williams)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Unix/Network Systems Administrator seeks part time job/contract in southern California
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:43:52 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

POSTING FOR A FRIEND, PLEASE REPLY TO iervw@agt.gmeds.com

Brenda please post this for me.

Thanks,

Dick Jr.

Unix/Network Systems Administrator seeks part time job/contract in southern California. Experienced Systems Administrator with internetworking skills, has worked with Sun, HP, AT&T, Apple (Macintosh) and PC systems. NIS(YP), NFS,
Mail, X11, and NNTP experience also. All experience is commercial not academic and in production environments. Also have worked with SNMP, cisco, and structured wiring.

Will be relocating back to southern California in November and would like to find a evening/weekend position administering Unix machines and network equipment. Will be living in the San Fernando Valley so will be mainly interested in LA and the Valley other areas may be a stretch.

If interested E-mail Richard at iervw@agt.gmeds.com or call (317) 230-5370
before October 30th.

Thanks,

Dick Jr.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract