From: jad@Turing.ORG (John DiNardo)
Subject: Part 3,  LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell]
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Keywords: LURE TO WAR: Bush Sucks Saddam Into Kuwait [Stockwell]
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:35:39 GMT

        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
JOHN STOCKWELL:
You've got to understand that the United States is and has always
been a war-loving nation, a warring nation, but one with a smile.
We've learned how to put a twist on it so we can feel good about
doing what other nations have done that we consider to be evil. 
This is part of my analysis.  And the CIA, in our training .....    
when we were novices, people from the analytical side came to talk
to us and they said: "If you're trying to figure out what a nation
is going to do, you don't take the circumstances on the table in
front of you and say, the logical thing is that they'll do this. 
What you do is you look at the history of the country, its cycles 
of war or whatever. If it's a country that's gone to war frequently
in its past, you expect it to go to war again. If it's a country
that never goes to war, you expect it to find a peaceful solution."

And with that analysis, about ten years ago -- although most of my
growth intellectually has been since then -- I began to just sit
down and doodle how many wars the United States has been into.   
And I noticed there are a whole bunch of them. We've done a lot of
this thing. A very warring nation. [War is] very deep in our
history. Fifteen wars as I count them. And this gets semantical.
They didn't call Korea a war. They tried not to call Vietnam a war.
But [the United States'] major military actions: I count about 
fifteen, give or take two, if you want to call them minor, but
nevertheless, let's say fifteen wars. We've spent fifty years or so
at war. We've had two hundred-plus military actions, about once a
year, in which we put our troops into other countries to force them
to our will. The longest period between wars was between World War I
and World War II. The second longest period was between the Vietnam
War and the Persian Gulf War.

Now during the first period, the longest period, we put 12,000
troops with an Allied Force to invade Russia and we put our Marines
repeatedly into Latin and Central American countries, again to force
them to our will. And then, of course, we've had low-intensity
conflicts, almost uncountable, hundreds and hundreds of them, in
between, for example, Vietnam and the Persian Gulf War. As you  
begin to read these things -- and Howard Zinn's THE PEOPLE'S HISTORY
OF THE UNITED STATES is extremely good on following this kind of
detail to really give you the punch lines of how the leadership
orchestrated the nation into other wars -- in each war there was a
trigger. If you look at page 290 of that book, Harry Truman wrote a
friend, quote:  "In strict confidence, I should welcome almost     
any war, for I think the country needs one."

You have the Battleship Maine,                                    

  [JD: If the USS Maine was sunk on the orders of powerful people
   in the U.S. Government, it's not as glaring as the fact that they
   used the sinking as their excuse for the war that they desired.]
   
sunk under mysterious conditions in the Spanish-Cuban-American War,
and the Press got onto it [created war hysteria] and we roared down
there: Teddy Roosevelt and all of that. The Lusitania in World War I

  [JD: The passenger ship Lusitania was sunk by the allies, killing  
   hundreds of men, women and children in order to fabricate the desired  
   reason to plunge the United States into the war with Germany.]  

In 1915, Kate Richards O'Hara, remember, she said: "The women of the
United States are nothing but brood sows producing sons to be put
into the Army to be turned into fertilizer."  And she was sentenced
to five years in jail for anti-war talk.                          

And then there was Pearl Harbor, which set off "the Good War," with
the rationale so strong. And now, we have the absolute historical
proof that our leadership DID know where the Japanese fleet was,
where it was headed, and what its plans were -- that it was going 
to sink our fleet in Pearl Harbor. And they did not warn the admiral
to get the ships out to sea. They let the ships be sunk and [made]
two thousand three hundred soldiers and sailors die so that it would
galvanize the nation into the war that they wanted to go into.

And then you have, of course, the Gulf of Tonkin Incident in 
[initiating] the Vietnam War.                                                       

  [JD: President Lyndon Johnson lied to the Congress, and he admitted 
   privately that he lied in his declaration that North Vietnamese  
   gunboats had fired upon an American ship which was illegally   
   intruding in North Vietnamese territorial waters for the calculated
   purpose of provoking an attack that would serve as an excuse to 
   goad the Congress into giving the President the authorization to 
   wage war upon North Vietnam. In point-of-fact, the American ship           
   was never fired upon at all.]

In the Mexican War (We relate to that in Texas, and I'm sure you do
here because it's very much a part of your heritage), they offered
$2 a head to every soldier who would enlist. They didn't get enough
takers, so they offered 100 acres of land to anyone who would be a
veteran of that war. They didn't get enough takers, so [future-
President] Zachary Taylor was sent down to parade up and down the
border -- the disputed border -- until the Mexicans fired on him,
and the headlines said: "MEXICANS KILLING OUR BOYS IN TEXAS," and
the nation rose up, and we fought the war, and we took away from
Mexico: Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California and part of Colorado.                  
And then, of course, you have the Persian Gulf War: Saddam Hussein's
invasion of Kuwait. This bald aggression, this very evil thing, 
this very evil man, who is the incarnation of Hitler himself, gave 
George Bush the vehicle he needed for this war that I had predicted
that he was shopping around for.

We'll get into that in more detail in just a minute, but first you
have to proceed to understand our system and how the conditioning
works in a little bit more detail.

The conditioning to war in this country begins at the age of two,
when we put our children in front of the one-eyed baby-sitter,   
and we turn it on and we go wash dishes or sweep the floor or clean
the car, and we teach them. Actually, little kids (I don't know if
you've done this recently), they're bored with TV at first. You 
have to get them hooked on it. We teach them, actually, to watch
television. And very quickly they learn. And then they get to where
they're watching 10 to 15 to 20 shows a day, all of them the same
show, the same story with different characters. I call it the
"American Syndrome." I'm talking about ..... We're raising a little
boy who's 12 now. And he's heard my lectures. And I have to sit down
and watch some of his TV with him so I can understand.  You know,  
he says, "Daddy, c'mere."  So, we've watched, over recent years:
HE-MAN, SHEENA, THE THUNDERCATS, SCOOBY-DOO, and now it's the NINJA
TURTLES, and THE RAIDERS -- I forget.  Always the same plot:    
Nice little people -- attractive, usually light-skinned or light-
complected, who are put upon by ugly, dark, evil forces like
Skeletor. And they always say: "Please be nice. We don't want
trouble." And the evil forces always insist. And at the last minute
they leap around and miraculously defeat the evil forces.  
Cut! Commercial!  And we plunge back into the same story with other
characters.  The "American Syndrome" of the nice people who loathe
war, who wouldn't go to war, ever, except it's drummed into Americans
from the age of two, that we're a nice, peace-loving nation, the
good guys of the World who very reluctantly go to war when evil
forces force it upon us.
                         (to be continued)
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        The America Public is evidently in dire need of the truth, 
        for when the plutocracy feeds us sweet lies in place of the 
        bitter truth that would evoke remedial action by the People,
        then we are in peril of sinking inextricably into despotism.

        So, please post the episodes of this ongoing series to 
        computer bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places,
        both on and off campus. The need for concerned people alerting
        their neighbors to overshadowing dangers still exists, as it 
        did in the era of Paul Revere. That need is as enduring as
        society itself.
      
             John DiNardo


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