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From: rajesh@quince (Rajesh Raman)
Subject: Re: RSS ( MP Government's Silent revolution in Education)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:40:01 GMT

  It's been a good discussion thus far. A few people have argued on specifics
  like the Shiv Sena meeting and all that. One point that was missed was that
  the BJP, the RSS, the VHP etc might or might not be using all this for pol-
  itical purposes, but the fact that their arguments have gained a lot of sup
  port amongst Hindus stands to prove that some how some where the BJP & gang
  have a struck a cord with the Hindus. You can fool people but not totally.
  You can take advantage of situations but you need some sort of situation to
  do so. You need build on some widely-felt problem, some widely-shared problem
  to be able to hijack the situation. That the BJP & gang has done that has
  been accepted by no less a person the Atal Behari Vajpayee. Lets not argue
  on superficialities. After all we're not here for the sake of argument but
  to brainstorm a way out of the problem. There is a lot appeasement going on
  of the minorities and specific castes for political purposes. That is what 
  the majority Hindus are revolting. There is a problem of articulation here
  that they face. That's why they're ready to go along with anyone who offers
  even a glimmer of hope to them. They feel something in there but they are
  somehow not able to give rightful expression to that feeling.

  So let's not say that it's all baloney and shrug it all away. We cannot sim
  ply ignore the opinions of so many people. Can't you see that people have 
  just been taken advantage of ???!!!
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Just to say Hi to everybody
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:54:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.986
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

jcc@engr.uark.edu (CHARYULU JAYALAKSHMI CHIL) writes:
: This is the first time I am posting a news on this network.
: Please somebody tell me how to subscribe to INDIA DIGEST
: news group on the network.
What you have posted is NOT "news", probably a test.:---)

---Sree
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: THE COW!!
Keywords: Chakk de Phattey!!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:20:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.202051.7624@ncsa.uiuc.edu> vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan) writes:
>>	Is it really fair to ridicule such a person just because his/her
>>	grasp of a foreign language is less than perfect ??  The writer
>
>I guess they're making fun of a person not known to anybody, on an article
>unwritten by them (he/she), on a forum they can't access, because they don't
>exist. What could be cleaner ?
>
>Vijay.

The fact is such urban legends do exist. I have come across articles/letters
from my friends/relatives which though not so humorous as the COW article, do
show quite a bit of resemblance. I thought it was pretty healthy humor.
After all we have the gujju jokes which exploit their pronounciation of 
the alphabet "a". 

Infact, the best jokes always capitalize on the handicaps/philosophy/other 
idiosyncrasies of a person or community. 

regards,
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From: sbajaj@nirvana.next.com (Sanjay Bajaj)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: SIPA MEETING Sat, Sept 12, 1992
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:49:05 GMT
Distribution: ba


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In his talk, Mr. Bhandari will share his experiences of starting Aspen  
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Location: HP Auditorium, 5301 Stevens Creek Blvd. 
(intersection of Lawrence Expressway and Stevens Creek Blvd.)
Date: 	Saturday, September 12, 1992 
Time: 	4 pm
Duration: 1 to 1.5 hours

FOR MORE INFO: Pls call 408-248-1658, (8:30 pm - 11 pm)
From: slahiri@jade.tufts.edu (Sandip Lahiri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: India contributes $100 million to the super-collider project
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:00:16 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: slahiri@jade.tufts.edu

Few days back, I remember someone telling me that India has
donated $100 million to the super-collider project. In fact, India
is the only foreign country that has contributed to this project
so far !! Can anyone substantiate this ?

-Sandip
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: alkoholic too!
Keywords: sumeet
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:30:43 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.history
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Were there universities in India before the British went?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:37:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: world

In article <1992Sep13.214909.10999@massey.ac.nz> A.Raman@massey.ac.nz (Anand) writes:
>Sometimes during a party, a date  or a dinner, an Indian is  liable to
>get asked that  apparently innocent  question,  the irksome nature  of
>which cannot be underestimated:
>
>Did you have universities in your country before the British came?
>
>There are several appropriate answers to this question, they  tell me;
>but few of them are factually correct and inoffensive  in nature.  The
>urge to take offence at questions like these and offend in retaliation
>is often missionary in  quality.    But personally,  I don't  think an
>offensive response is justified  in  such  a situation.   Besides,  it
>doesn't befit an Indian who follows in the gentle footsteps of Gautama
>Buddha.   In most cases,  I have found, there  is really no need to be
>irritated at such questions.  They are usually asked in true sincerity
>out of a real curiosity.   It is only  obligatory then that we provide
>correct   information  about  ourselves to    those who are  genuinely
>interested in us.  But how can we  do any such thing if  we don't have
>the requisite data with us in the first place?


   Well, another problem with trying to answer this, or any any
   question about India to an American is the great diversity of
   India.  Since there are many Indians at HP I often hear Americans
   ask about language, food, dress, marriage, weather, &ct.  The 
   problem is that "before the British came" India was an extraordinarily
   diverse place with many languages, customs, peoples, and a very
   wide range of climates and weather conditions, and IT STILL IS.
   Americans don't seem to understand/appreciate this.   As an American
   I am often embarassed by this ignorance on the part of my country-
   men, and impressed by the patience with which most Indians respond,
   "Well, in the part of India where *I* come from . . . "


---peter



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 12:46:30 CDT
From: Sesha Talluri <U51935@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sonia's book on Rajiv


In article <1992Sep3.230550.5373@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K.
S. Manu) says:
>
>who cares?
>
I DO. And there are others too.

>Njan

Sesha
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Police in India (Was: Re: Gang Rape by Cops in Tamilnadu; Mallikarjun Mansoor dead.)
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:43:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.171311.156753@ua1ix.ua.edu> ngopalas@ha05.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
>Basically the Indian police have been used as a repressive force against Indians
>by our erstwhile occupiers, the British. So since the British system has taken

Nice point !!...

>roots in the society, the behavioue of the Indian police also has not changed 
>from those days, they continue to repress the populace and act with arrogance.
>Courtesy is a novel idea to them, even though it is the populace's taxes which
>pays their salary.Literacy will probably be a huge help in tackling this menace.
>When the police start losing money by the lakhs due to to lawsuits, their
				6^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6

We are talking about Indian and the indian police system here.


>attitude will undergo a very rapid change.
>Nath.


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.history
From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Were there universities in India before the British went?
Keywords: world
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:14:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.214909.10999@massey.ac.nz> A.Raman@massey.ac.nz (Anand) writes:
>Sometimes during a party, a date  or a dinner, an Indian is  liable to
>get asked that  apparently innocent  question,  the irksome nature  of
>which cannot be underestimated:
>
>Did you have universities in your country before the British came?
>

	Intro to what looks to be an interesting series of posts deleted

	Being Canadian, and hence innately cautious, my first response
to a question like that would be "What do you mean by 'Universities'?"  
One assumes that any urban culture has some means of training its educated 
classes (although that means may not look very much like a modern University) 
and India has had cities and their associated cultures for a very long time.

							James Nicoll

	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: The Top Twenty Schools
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:45:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.143308.29407@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.213423.26255@cs.wayne.edu> uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>>phenomemon, or this phenomemon is an offshoot of the recession.  Other topics
>>will also include, how to get rid of this bastard off this group.
>>Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
 
>Which bastard are you referring to, yourself ?  Yours was a truly
>impotent attempt at an insult.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Ed

I shall try again soon.  Wish me luck this time.


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: utpal@solan.unit.noutpal@solan.unit.no (Ganguly Utpal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: hei!netters.
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:58:35 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology

I have the same question as Shalini.fill me with information. My E-mail no.
utpal@solan.unit.no 19
i am presently taking my M.Tech. in Petroleum Technology. For me,East or West
coast  doesn't play any significant role.Looking forward for loads of
reply.Answer only if you've any concrete information about MBA and Scholarships
etc. for it.Ha det (Bye Bye in Norwegian)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:30528 talk.abortion:35451
From: ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ashish Arora)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:14:27 GMT
Organization: Heinz School, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.indian: 7-Sep-92 Re: Arrogant Indians
and Su.. by RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET 
>     4.  Morality  being personal:  This makes  no sense  at all.   How much
>     credence would you give to a  rapist who says, "you don't to  have rape
>     if you  don't want  to.  Just  leave MY  life alone"?   I am not one of
>     those who block entrance to clinics  - but you have to see  that people
>     who genuinely value the foetus as  a human being have NO option  but to
>     do the best to stop it.  I do not agree with their tactics but they are
>     NOT being  in-consistent.  I  am sure  that before  the civil war, many
>     slave holders said,  "Northerners don't have  to own slaves  if they do
>     not  want  to.   They  should  just  respect  our  rights".   And other
>     Southerners, opposed  to slavery  who said  "I don't  like slavery, but
>     Northerners have no right to dictate to Southerners".

Surely Mr. Parikh would draw some distinction between morality and legality. 
The debate is about whether to make abortion illegal.  If an act were
clearly immoral AND the expected consequences of prohibiting less so,
then one might consider arguments about banning the act.  Mr. Parikh has
not, to my mind, successfully argued that the immorality of abortion
weighed against the immorality of forcing women to bear an unwanted
child to term, is so overwhelming as to make abortion illegal.

cheers  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor,P303,2124)
Subject: Of Macho Men & Liberated Women ! 
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: World 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:34:45 GMT


Would it please  Ms. Mehta and Mr. Doki , to carry out
their private war, in private.

Please !   


_______________________________________________________

... What wz the original article " Sati..." anyway...?

                                          Rajat Kapoor
_______________________________________________________.



                     Tale of Two  WOUNDED EGOES ...

PART A 

>Yeah, yeah.
>YOU are still lame.  You can't be sweet, at least not in 
>this life time.
> Meha

PART B 

> listen you dumb female: the computer only does what you want it to and
> how come the computer does mistakes for you and not for the others?
> suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: thaya@solan.unit.no (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: hih hi! where is the world?
Keywords: money is here
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:18:19 GMT

bye for now
sumeet

you are my where
From: sngattan@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Sanjay N Gattani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Why the world should be grateful to the USA!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:53:33 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu

crick@lcmv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>In article <lasabfINNnhl@phad.hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
>>>
>>>       The USA is great!!  The world should be thankful to
>>>       them for keeping the peace and new world order 
>>>       especially in the Middle East.  George Bush is a 
>>>       wonderful President and Peace Keeper.
>>
>>Oh boy! Another "crickian" clone in the making. Another pain in the butt
>>makes his debut on SCI.
>>Samit

>While I agree with the sentimnets expressed by Tim, let's refrain from 
>immediately labelling him as a "clone" of this person or that, and let him
>establish his own identity.  

>Comparing anyone else to me would be like comparing saccharin to sugar, 
>decaf to coffee, and astroturf to grass (BTW are there any turfed hockey
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>fields in India?)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You have a sense of humor...:-)

>Ed "the real thing" Crick


sanjay
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: news@ugle.unit.no (Deep Third Sand)
Subject: butter fashion
Followup-To: manjula
Keywords: thaya
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:08:40 GMT

do not call me sand. ok

bye for now
NTH l vENdiya ammaa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.indian.telugu
From: st1oc@jane.uh.edu (Satish, Kumar S.)
Subject: Re: JOKE....ON A DESI COMING TO THE US.....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.220336.23929@tamsun.tamu.edu>, nakkala@cs.tamu.edu (Venkatesh Nakkala) writes...
>  
>  This is something I picked from one of my friends here.ENJOY ......
>  Sorry if this had already been posted on the net earlier....
> 
>  I am an Italiano.
>  
>  One day ima gonna LA to bigga hotel.  Ina morning I go down to eat
>  breakfast.  I tella waitress I wanna two pisses toast.  She brings me  
>  only one piss.  I tella her I want two piss.  She say go to the  
>  toilet.  I say you no understand, I wanna to piss onna my plate.  She  
>  say you better no piss onna plate, you sonna ma bitch.  I don't even  
>  know the lady and she call me sonna ma bitch.
>  
>  Later I go to eat at the bigga restaurant.  The waitress brings me a
>  spoon and knife but no fock.  I tella her I wanna fock.  She tell me  
>  everyone wanna fock.  I tella her you no understand.  I wanna fock on  
>  the table.  She say you better not fock on the table, you sonna ma  
>  bitch.  So I go back to my room ina hotel and there is no shits onna  
>  my bed.  Call the manager and tella him I wanna shit.  He tell me to  

%%%stuff deleted...>--
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>		     Venkatesh  Nakkala    nakkala@neuron.tamu.edu 
> Off : (409)845-5481                       Res : (409)268-7404
> Dept. Of Comp Sci.,Texas A & M Univ.      Fax : (409)847-8578 


That was nice. More along the same string welcome.....

--KSS

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.history
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Were there universities in India before the British went?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:05:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Sep14.161925.21874@watson.ibm.com> rajat@watson.ibm.com (Rajat Datta) writes:
>In article <BuKqvL.5zI@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
>>
> ... stuff deleted ...
>>  I'm not sure it's irrelevant.  "University" is a Latin word and 
>>  it may well be that if a North American or European asks "did you
>>  have universities" they may be referring specifically to western-
>>  style universities.   Or not.  The whole thing hinges on what is
>>  mean by "university".    For instance, did the early Chinese civil
>>  service schools constitute "universities"?  
>>
>
>No, I think when people ask such questions they aren't particularly
>interested in what kind of university or what kind of clothing.
>They're interested in hearing how Europeans brought civilization to
>the benighted heathens. 


  I don't think it's fair to impugn people's motives this way.   
  No doubt some people are motivated the way you describe, but
  speaking as someone who often asks people from other nations 
  about their countries, and who, when he travels abroad, is happy
  to answer questions about US history/customs, etc, I think there
  are many people who are sincerely curious about the topic. 
  I just think the phrasing "did you have universities" is awkward
  for the reasons I cited.  However it does not in any way follow
  that if a place did not have western-style universities, that it
  did not have advanced education.  

  As I said, assuming that the western model and the western terminology
  ("university") is the standard of comparison, is to surrender to
  western imperialism.   If this IS what the questioner is assuming
  then by saying "yes we had universities, if what you really had was
  something different is to concede that standard and miss an opportunity
  to enlighten someone.
  
  My ancestors were from Scandinavia.  If a Christian were to ask me
  "did your ancient ancestors believe in God?" how should I answer?  
  To a Christian, "God" has a specific meaning.  If I answer, "yes"
  this is not really correct, and moreover it would appear to concede
  a particular definition of "God".   If I answer "no" this isn't
  correct either; they weren't atheists.   Nor is it correct to 
  simply dismiss the question as having impure motives; the questioner
  could be sincere and I would be passing up an opportunity to 
  educate someone.  So the correct approach would be to provide an
  outline of Norse religion and practices.  

  So rather than saying "yes, we had universities but they wern't like
  Oxford" (unless, of course they were) maybe the answer should be "no,
  but what we DID have was . . . ".  


---peter
From: hansm@madmats.esd.sgi.com (Madhsudan Hans)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: THE COW!!
Keywords: Chakk de Phattey!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:19:27 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

A friend of a friend writes .....
----------------------------------
My friend from Bombay sent me a news paper clipping today.  What appears
below
is an exact reprint of one of the articles which appeared in "THE
AFTERNOON" on
August 4, 1992.
 
I bet you will enjoy this.
___________________________________________________________________________
__ 
CALCUTTA's Telegraph has got hold of an answer paper of a candidate at the
recent UPSC examinations.  The candidate has written an essay on the
Indian
cow:
 
"The cow is a successful animal. Also he is quadrupud, and because he is 
female, he give milk, but will do so when he is got child.  He is same
like
God, sacred to Hindus and useful to man.  But he has got four legs
together.
Two are forward and two are afterwards.
 
"His whole body can be utilised for use. More so the milk.  What can it
do?
Various ghee, butter, cream, curd, why and the condensed milk and so
forth.
Also he is useful to cobbler, watermans and mankind generally.
 
"His motion is slow only because he is of asitudinious species.  Also his
other motion is much useful to trees, plants as well as making flat cakes
in
hand and drying in the sun.  Cow is the only animal that extricates his
feeding
after eating.  Then afterwards she chew with his teeth whom are situated
in
the inside of the mouth.  He is incessantly in the meadows in the grass.
 
"His only attacking and defending organ is the horn, specially so when he
is 
got child.  This is done by knowing his head whereby he causes the weapons
to be paralleled to the ground of the earth and instantly proceed with
great 
velocity forwards.
 
"He has got tails also, but not like similar animals.  It has hairs on the
other end of the other side.  This is done to frighten away the flies
which
alight on his cohoa body whereupon he gives hit with it.
 
The palms of his feet are soft unto the touch.  So the grasses head is not
crushed.  At night time have poses by looking down on the ground and he
shouts
his eyes like his relatives, the horse does not do so.
 
"This is the cow."
 
P.S.: We are informed that the candidate passed the exam.
 
___________________________________________________________________________
_


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Silicon Graphics Computer Systems	Fax: 415-390-6159	 
2011 N. Shoreline Blvd, M/S 1L-945,	Email:
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CHAKK DE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: arvindv@fraser.sfu.ca (Arvind Verma)
Subject: looking for iit-k friends
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:48:26 GMT

Perhaps its too late and we are all too old!!
But does anyone has any information about iit-k graduates of 1977 ?
Particularly Anurag Kumar, Ashok Sinha, Pradip Agnihotri ??
Look forward to hear from any of my old batch mates!!!
arvind verma
ph. (604)-299-8475