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From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: nipple piercings: do it yourself??
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:39:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

ssamaras@scott.skidmore.edu (susan samarasinghe) writes:
>she had no problems with infection, but the ring sort of surfaced in a
>couple of weeks, and fell out. is this common? and what should i do if

A few things....
1.  Where was the piercing placed?  It should be done fairly below the
nipple depending on the size.  Someone experienced would be the best judge.
2.  This sounds like "rejection" of the jewelry...  did she use gold,
stainless steel or nobium?
3.  Did she use jewelry made for this or any old wire thin earring?
4.  What did she use to make the piercing?  a needle?

>i am interested in exotic piercing (i have my nose done, would like to
>try nipple and navel..possibly other things..) and there is no
>piercing place around? is it really dangerous to do these things by
>oneself? any tips? i did my nose myself in a particularly saucy mood
>last year. no problems as of yet. please write to me and let this
>adventerous lass in ny state know.....:)

It's not dangerous at all if you know what you're doing and you're using
the proper and sterile equipment... tho I know people who have done it
correctly on a whim.  "no piercing place around" ???  in New York?  if so,
why not take a drive to the next major city... New York city.. Montreal...
Cincinatti?  and have it done by a 'professional' or find someone who
does it freelance near you...  I'm in New Jersey...


-- 
"peace, unit-E, L-ov-E, and having phun!"

WILL-E <perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu>   
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From: ajaffray@quads.uchicago.edu (alan jaffray)
Subject: Which ear? Why?
Reply-To: ajaffray@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:51:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.192457.848@ctp.com> ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.155147.18480@noao.edu> kneale@noao.edu (ruth a. kneale) writes:
>>well i don't have a nipple pierce but your statement here caught
>>my eye.  i have seven earrings in the left ear and only one in my
>>right.  i must say, though, i haven't ever felt off-balance.
>
>I've got two earrings in my left ear, and one in my right. It used to be
>two & zero. I've never really felt "off-balance", although I did get the
>right-ear pierce to have something on that side.

This is an odd pattern... I can think of three friends off the top of
my head who have asymmetric earring arrangements, and all of them have
more in the left ear than in the right.  (1-0, 1-0, 3-1).  Is there 
some significance to this that I'm not aware of (right ear means you're
into licorice-whip flagellation, whatever...), or is it custom, or is
it just random and I happen to have a left-leaning group of friends?

-- Alan (currently with no piercings... was going to get an ear or two
done, but my girlfriend thinks *all* bodymods are barbaric... oh, well.)

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From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Re: Questions about Tongue Pierces
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:36:10 GMT

HI!  What's up?  How is every little thing?  There are some
people you could ask right on this very campus.  I know of 
one, but she's really unpleasant.  Talk to you later.

			      Ramona

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From: an7236@anon.penet.fi
Subject: scots piercers
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:46:28 GMT

Hi,

I've been lurking for a good while now. I got a tat 'cos I was
intrigued (not the right reason maybe, but I liked the design)
and have subsequently become addicted to ink and now have 4 or
5 with more in the planning! Ah well :-). Now, does anyone know
of any piercers in Bonny Scotland?

Thanks.
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From: kneale@noao.edu (ruth a. kneale)
Subject: Re: Which ear? Why?
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:47:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.025118.18336@midway.uchicago.edu> ajaffray@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.192457.848@ctp.com> ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan25.155147.18480@noao.edu> kneale@noao.edu (ruth a. kneale) writes:
>>>well i don't have a nipple pierce but your statement here caught
>>>my eye.  i have seven earrings in the left ear and only one in my
>>>right.  i must say, though, i haven't ever felt off-balance.
>>
>>I've got two earrings in my left ear, and one in my right. It used to be
>>two & zero. I've never really felt "off-balance", although I did get the
>>right-ear pierce to have something on that side.
>
>This is an odd pattern... I can think of three friends off the top of
>my head who have asymmetric earring arrangements, and all of them have
>more in the left ear than in the right.  (1-0, 1-0, 3-1).  Is there 
>some significance to this that I'm not aware of (right ear means you're
>into licorice-whip flagellation, whatever...), or is it custom, or is
>it just random and I happen to have a left-leaning group of friends?

well, i can't speak for erik, but the best explanation i can give is
that i started my 'lopsided collection' in high school in europe
(with two in left, one in right) because, at that time in that place,
it was the 'fashion'.  i started adding the others in college, and
just kept stacking on the left.   if there is some underlying symbolism,
let me in on it?

if it helps, i'm the only one i know who's lopsided at all.  every
other friend with more than one earring has matching ears.  *laugh*

-- 
ruth a. kneale          Reality used to be a friend of mine.
rkneale@noao.edu                   -PMD
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From: wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene)
Subject: Re: A gif of one of my tattoos
Organization: Hell Hole, Inc.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:12:55 GMT

In article <2805@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> dajm@ukc.ac.uk (DavidMoor) writes:
>In article <1jmpcaINN1fb@cronkite.cisco.com> kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae) writes: About my tattoo.
>>
>>	That's way cool. I like it!
>>
>>		Who did that tattoo? And where'd you get the design?
>>
>
>It was done by Lal Hardy last year. The design came from a book called
>Looking at Indian Art of the Northwest Coast by Hilary Stewart, ISBN:
>0295956453. Check out your local library, I found a few books giving
>details of this type of art, some with some really good designs.


In Seattle, you can get this book at the Native American crafts
store on 1st Ave. just down from Pike Market.  I
bought it for exactly the same reason.  FYI, Dermagraphics on
Western Ave. (basement of the Market, really) claims to be quite
experienced with Northwest NA designs (Haida, Salish, Kwaguitl,
etc.).  I looked at some pieces they'd done but didn't see
enough to really judge.

I would *really* like to have a custom piece done in the Kwaguitl
style but:

     These styles have an intense amount of mythology
     included in the art.  The main thing I got from Stewart's
     book is the sense that you should only use a design
     created by a native artist.  That sort of rules out a
     custom design, short of commissioning one.

     What tattoo artist works in these styles regularly?  It's
     pretty atypical stuff.  I was shopping in Seattle because
     I didn't think I could find someone in the Bay Area who's
     done Northwest NA pieces before.
     taking a 

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From: comptec90012@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Greg W Burnham)
Subject: Re: Which ear? Why?
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:24:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.025118.18336@midway.uchicago.edu>, ajaffray@quads.uchicago.edu (alan jaffray) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.192457.848@ctp.com> ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan25.155147.18480@noao.edu> kneale@noao.edu (ruth a. kneale) writes:
>>>well i don't have a nipple pierce but your statement here caught
>>>my eye.  i have seven earrings in the left ear and only one in my
>>>right.  i must say, though, i haven't ever felt off-balance.
>>
>>I've got two earrings in my left ear, and one in my right. It used to be
>>two & zero. I've never really felt "off-balance", although I did get the
>>right-ear pierce to have something on that side.
> 
> This is an odd pattern... I can think of three friends off the top of
> my head who have asymmetric earring arrangements, and all of them have
> more in the left ear than in the right.  (1-0, 1-0, 3-1).  Is there 
> some significance to this that I'm not aware of (right ear means you're
> into licorice-whip flagellation, whatever...), or is it custom, or is
> it just random and I happen to have a left-leaning group of friends?


As I understand it, back in the more closeminded era of _male_ ear
piercing (i.e. the mid eighties), if a man got his right ear pierced
it ment he was gay (gasp, oh horror of horrors).  I think that this
is why most men have more in the left than the right.

As far as the off balance thing goes, don't most people wear a watch
on only one of there wrists?

-- 
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From: acase@reed.edu (Andrew Case)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Re :nipple Pierce
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:00:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan22.160030.10545
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

danb@daver.mentorg.com (Daniel Boughton) writes:
>One vote for Ahna here.

-Make that 2 votes. I was very pleased with the results. Two friends of
mine just got belly-button pierces from her, and they were similarly
pleased. She is friendly, pleasant, and most importantly she has (and
uses) all the safe-piercing equiptment you could want (including an 
autoclave etc).
miolnir@stein.u.washington.edu (Miolnir) writes:

>|> Anyway, has any one heard of
>|> Ahna Edwards? She's comeing up here in a couple of weeks and I thought
>|> I might have it dine by her.
>|> miolnir

Good Luck.
......Andrew
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From: lady@vesta.unm.edu (Just some lady..)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Which ear? Why?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:35:57 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: vesta.unm.edu

In article <1993Jan27.025118.18336@midway.uchicago.edu> ajaffray@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>This is an odd pattern... I can think of three friends off the top of
>my head who have asymmetric earring arrangements, and all of them have
>more in the left ear than in the right.  (1-0, 1-0, 3-1).  Is there 
>some significance to this that I'm not aware of (right ear means you'rei...

hmmm I have more on the right then the left... (2 right 1 left) and if
I was going to get a nipple done (which I have considered) i'd put it
on the right.. since the left side of the brain controls the right
side of the body, does this mean i'm not in my right mind?! :)



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From: kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Paint it Black - how fast?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:34:13 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: glare.cisco.com

In article <18191@pitt.UUCP> spfst1@icarus.lis.pitt.edu writes:
>As one who has had a tat done within the last four months, one warning: mine took
>about three hours (2 3/4 or thereabout) and the last fifteen minutes were quite
>painful.  Aparently the body can deal with two hours of pain and then says "STOP".


	This is, of course, *totally* subjective. Some people can't really
	take more than an hour; some can take two or three. It also depends
	on WHERE; I can take three hours with no problem in a non-sensitive
	area, but around the armpit, an hour is HELL.

	The point is, let your artist know when you've had enough. They'll
	usually be happy to let you take a break, or to re-schedule the
	rest of the work for a later date. 


			-Karl


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From: John.Nieder@f133.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (John Nieder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: THE SEX INDUSTRY
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:53:12 GMT

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 -=> Quoting Ben Wing to All <=-

 BW> I noticed this ad on the back page of the Bay Guardian...
 
Yes, I love it! 8-)  It reminds me of a law I posited on my NY radio
program in '80:  "You know your 'statement' has become a joke when the
external trappings of your 'lifestyle' are co-opted by street
prostitutes."  Hippy hookers...punk hookers...now "Modern Primitive"
hookers...[yawn!]...
        JN


... "On that day, Lister, Satan will be skating to work."



... Government:  A dangerous servant & fearful master -G.Washington
 * Origin: BODY DHARMA * Berkeley CA 510/836-4717 RBBS-Net (8:914/133.0)
From: quilty@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Lulu of the lotus-eaters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Question not in FAQ
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:24:59 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucs.umass.edu

In article <1993Jan27.163818.90357@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> tpb2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (TONY PATRICK BLAKE) writes:
>
>    i finally decided i want a tattoo, but there may be a slight problem.
>    i have extremely dry skin.  there is a deficiency in my pores...so they
>    don't produce a lot of oil.  i use lotion almost every day, but if i
>    skip a couple of days i get dry patches.

Well... after you get a tattoo, a bit of dead skin tends to flake off,
and the area gets a bit dried out.  My skin is probably about average,
so I don't know about a special dryness of skin (like you have).  My
guess, though, is that your normal regime of lotion everyday should be
fine; or maybe even put it on the tatt a few times a day for a couple
weeks.  If you have a special dermatological problem which causes your
skin to be very dry, you may want to talk to a dermatologist before
you get a tatt.... but if you're just to the dry side of a normal
distribution, I think you'll be fine.
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From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:20:59 GMT
Subject: You know piercing is trendy when ...
Organization: Princeton University
X-Subliminal-Message: You can quit reading news anytime you want.

I noticed this ad on the back page of the Bay Guardian:



HEY, GIRL-NEXT-DOOR!

Would you like a job working with naked savages, right here in San Francisco?
We're suffering from an excess of primitive erotic hiptitude here at the Lusty
Lady.  It's not that we don't like piercings, shaved heads, and tattoos.  We'd
just like to add some variety to our show.  If you are pretty, uninhibited and
don't own a copy of "Modern Primitives", we may have just the job for you.  We
are San Francisco's number-one, all-nude, erotic theater.  We offer flexible
scheduling around your classes and other jobs, a safe, supportive environment
in which to explore your sexuality and a high hourly wage.  Start dancing on
stage at $8/hr. and work your way up to $20/hr. in less than a year!  Or, come
play in our erotic-talk booth and make up to $50/hr!  You must have long hair
(shoulder length or longer), no piercings (except earrings) and no tattoos.
[etc]

--

"Can't we all just get along?"
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From: mrhoten@cs.stanford.edu (Matthew X. Rhoten)
Subject: Re: donating blood
Originator: mrhoten@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:30:53 GMT

The American Red Cross is fairly conservative about a lot of risk
factors. For instance, if you have had sexual intercourse with anyone
from Sub-Saharan Africa, you will not donate blood. Note the lack of
temporal qualifiers there.

Personally I find it annoying that I, a nice healthy O+ kinda guy,
can't donate blood, since I know how much it is needed, but I do
understand that a certain conservatism in this respect is admirable -
after all, the effects of giving some already-ill person a pint of
blood containing hepatitis (or worse!) would be pretty nasty. Consider
all the hemophiliacs with HIV, for example.

(Apologies if this is off the subject of the newsgroup.)

 -matt
-- 
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 -John Lee Hooker
From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: nipple piercings: do it yourself??
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:35:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

ssamaras@scott.skidmore.edu (susan samarasinghe) writes:
>she had no problems with infection, but the ring sort of surfaced in a
>couple of weeks, and fell out. is this common? and what should i do if

A few things....
1.  Where was the piercing placed?  It should be done fairly below the
nipple depending on the size.  Someone experienced would be the best judge.
2.  This sounds like "rejection" of the jewelry...  did she use gold,
stainless steel or nobium?
3.  Did she use jewelry made for this or any old wire thin earring?
4.  What did she use to make the piercing?  a needle?

>i am interested in exotic piercing (i have my nose done, would like to
>try nipple and navel..possibly other things..) and there is no
>piercing place around? is it really dangerous to do these things by
>oneself? any tips? i did my nose myself in a particularly saucy mood
>last year. no problems as of yet. please write to me and let this
>adventerous lass in ny state know.....:)

It's not dangerous at all if you know what you're doing and you're using
the proper and sterile equipment... tho I know people who have done it
correctly on a whim.  "no piercing place around" ???  in New York?  if so,
why not take a drive to the next major city... New York city.. Montreal...
Cincinatti?  and have it done by a 'professional' or find someone who
does it freelance near you...  I'm in New Jersey...
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From: kneale@noao.edu (ruth a. kneale)
Subject: Re: nipple pierce
Organization: neener neener boing boing boing
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:51:47 GMT

In article <2B60E0EE.24836@news.service.uci.edu> dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:

>lots of guys have only one earing and probably dont feel off balance
>or maybe someone with 5 rings in one ear and one in the other
>i dont know of anyone who notices that either
>interesting thought though
>maybe we should feel off balance

well i don't have a nipple pierce but your statement here caught
my eye.  i have seven earrings in the left ear and only one in my
right.  i must say, though, i haven't ever felt off-balance.

i also must admit that i never thought of piercing another body
part until i started regularly reading this group...if i get up the
guts someday i'll be sure to post it!

-- 
ruth a. kneale          Reality used to be a friend of mine.
rkneale@noao.edu                   -PMD
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From: jstrent@athena.mit.edu (John S Tan)
Subject: nipple/tongue piercing
Summary: how long to heal?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:09:08 GMT

Umm, I couldn't seem to find the answers to these questions in the
FAQ. 

With nipple & tongue piercings, how long before they stop
oozing serum/blood? 

Will they ever get to a point where you can remove the jewlery for a
day or so & then put it back in? If so, in how long?

How visible are nipple rings through a shirt (t-shirt)?

-John
jstrent@athena.mit.edu
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Genital piercings?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:23:52 EST
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

A friend of mine told me about a piercing I've never heard of - through
the little "web" of skin at the back of the balls. Does anybody have one
of these, what's it called, and how does it feel?

Dave the eternally curious. :)
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Questions:Frenum/apallang/PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:02:43 GMT

>I think Gauntlet likes to profit by
>selling lots of Hibiclens and such which is actually a surgical scrub. I
>would never put that stuff on a piercing ... terrible.  your body knows
>how to sort itself out ... have some faith in your body's healing powers
>and let it be - don't do anything to it... you'll only make it worse.

actually on their cleanign instructions they say that
hibiclens is surgical scrub and is not that good for 
the piercing, but they cnat think of anything better
for prevent infection
your own urine is great
but for my ampallang, i dont feel like peeing in a cup
and then soaking my dick in it
its probably just a societal thing
but i just dont think that is the answer

i dont really see a need to clean twice daily though
i clean it when it doesnt look to good, or when 
i have a chance to
i dont really go crazy, but i think at least soaking it
in water is a good idea
it helps loosen up a lot of junk that
gets REALLY painful sometimes if its there

although my body knows how to heal itself
it may or may not want to have a steel rod
through its penis.. or it might not care about the steel rod
but it could be pissed about the way it got there
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From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Subject: A little advice on tatoos....
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:40:12 GMT

Hello!  I've been reading this newsgroup for a bit now, and would like a
little advice on getting tatoos.

I've been thinking about getting a tattoo, but still have a few questions.
If they've been asked and answered before, forgive me! =)  Where are some of
the least painful places to get tattoos?  I've been thinking about getting
one done above my breast, and/or on my hip.  Any other good places?

One other question - how can you judge a good tattoo parlor and artist?

Thanks a lot in advance, all!

Smiles,
  Dawna =)