From: mjb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Matthew J Brown)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Where are the bisexuals?
Date: 4 Oct 92 22:58:28
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In-reply-to: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu's message of 4 Oct 1992 20:51:10 GMT

In article <1anlfuINNgg1@agate.berkeley.edu> rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.133147.11002@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>->I'm like to pursue the question of what are the "natural habitats"
>->of bisexuals in today's society -- spaces that are bi-friendly or
>->tolerant enough to encourage bis to be visible.
>
>I was going to mention Furry ... but you beat me to it ...
>
>-> - FurryMUCK 
>->
>->(I haven't been there, but it's got a reputation ;)
>
>As a rather avid furry person, whose character is bi (AND (!) a
>gendershifter), I'm going to have to _way_ second that comment ... Furry is
>so bi-positive it's not even funny ... I think I can count the number of
>people I know there and who are monos on the fingers of three hands (any
>volunteers for a helping hand?) ... 

Ummm ... I'm going to have to visit Furry more often ... I've got a
character (Morven, like every other M** character I have - it's
getting to the stage of being one of my RL names ...)

As for gendershifting characters ... Morven ends up being male most of
the time, but some Morvens are female -- a couple of my morphs on
LambdaMOO are female (one of them my fictional mute bi-female from my
attempts at fantasy novels who originated the name).

I notice that a lot of mono Mudders get really worried about the
possibility of IVR females being IRL males -- it's never bothered me,
even before I realised I was bi -- in fact, it helped me to that
realisation, in some ways. I met the players of two female characters
on LambdaMOO (actually, this was at Dave's party) and found they were
actually male -- one of them extremely cute IMO ...

In addition, I was surprised, after I began to come out as bi on
Lambda, how many people I knew there were, too.

>Furry has been a rather cool influence on me ... I got comfortable with the
>idea of male-male sex in Furry (lost my TinyVirginity there on my first
>night *grinblush*) ... explored my communication skills, found I was a
>BDSMer in Furry, met my MSO on Furry, met someone else who I'm heavily
>involved with right now in Furry ...  Not to mention working on some <ahem>
>skills that I worked on in Furry (at least in theory, I suppose) that I
>think do have some relevance to RL.

Morven is ashamed to admit that he/she is still a TinyVirgin ... and
he/she's been M**ing for nearly a year ... mind you, LambdaMOO is not
quite up to Furry's ... ahem ... *social* nature. The wizards are, in
general, against public TinySex. However, it's a much nicer server :)

>I also got a bit more comfortable with polyamory in Furry (having something
>on the order of 3 SOs + X close lovers had something to do with it, I think
>:) ) ... 
>
>So, err, yes.  Furry is a very friendly place to visit (sometimes _too_
>friendly) ... I'd recommend it highly to any bisexual / pervert ...

I'll have to visit. If you (speaking to any soc.bi Furries) see a
rather lost Morven wandering around, say hello, will you?

> >--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Roy S. Rapoport rsr@soda.berkeley.edu bi-bdsm@ocf.berkeley.edu
>	 I'm not gay but my boyfriend ... err, actually he's bi also.
>DISCLAIMER: "I meant every word of it ... but nobody else did."  >

-Matt/Morven (shall I get a name change IRL?)

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