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From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Another Question about AST 4Port Boards & Linux
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:58:03 GMT
Organization: York University

Hi...

	I got half of the answer today that I required dealing with 
Linux and AST boards...Linux directly supports them...great...none of
those headaches with FAS.

	The next question is *how* to set it up....does it automatically
detect the AST board and configure itself accordingly?  This is basically
my last hurdle/worry about installing Linux.  Everythig else seems quite
simple to get going...I just want to make sure what is involved with my
AST board.

Thanks loads to those that answered the first question...

Marc
From: kotulla@cardhu.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Axel Kotulla)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: building new kernel
Summary: Error while building a new kernel !?!
Keywords: build new kernel SLS .98p5
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:45:29 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: cardhu.informatik.rwth-aachen.de


Hi,

m tries to build a new kernel were not successful. I NEED german
"Umlaute", so I hope a Linux-wizard will help.

I tried it in the following way. First i made a

make dep

in /usr/src/linux

then a

make disk

It finishes with the message

make[1]: `lib.a' is up to date.
ld  -M boot/head.o init/main.o tools/version.o kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o net/net.o fs/filesystems.a kernel/blk_drv/blk_drv.a kernel/chr_drv/chr_drv.a kernel/blk_drv/scsi/scsi.a kernel/chr_drv/sound/sound.a kernel/FPU-emu/math.a lib/lib.a -o tools/system > System.map
ld: No such file or directory for fs/filesystems.a
make: *** [tools/system] Error 1


What is wrong. I would be very thankful for any hint.

Axel
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Axel Kotulla (E-Mail: axel@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de)
From: rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com (Bob Rusk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Interlacing X11
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:11:00 GMT
Reply-To: rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division

I'm running the SLS 0.98.1 distribution on a 386DX/20 with a 387, 8MB
RAM, and an ATI VGA1024 (OEM VGA Wonder) with 512K RAM feeding an old
Thomson UltraScan multi-scanning monitor.  My mouse is a Logitech
3-button serial mouse.  Everything works great (Thanks Linus et al!
I've been up since 0.11.) except that I haven't been able to get a
good display in X when I go beyond 640x480.

I recently ran timings.exe (from sunsite) under DOS to find out about
the 800x600x256 video mode that MS-Windows uses.  It output the
following:

800 824 968 1016 300 301 315 312 Interlace

When I use this line (with clocks of 36 or 39) in my Xconfig, I get a
display that fills the screen, but the mouse will only move over half
of it and the printing is tiny and distorted.  What must I do to get X
to use an interlaced mode?

I've gotten a couple of tolerably-bad 744x552 modes, but they flicker
pretty badly and are stretching the capabilities of my monitor by a
lot.  (Monitor rated at 35MHz horizontal and 75 MHz vertical.)  I used
the 800x600 interlaced mode a lot under MS-DOG (mode 0x63), and it is
more stable and gives considerably less flicker than my 744x552 mode
with the 39MHz clock.

On a related note, does anybody have a valid clocks line for a VGA
Wonder?  My VGA board uses programmable clocks, and X can't figure
them out for itself.  The first four that I use are "25 28 36 39"
(there might be a 31 between the 28 and the 36 -- I can't remember),
but the rest of the clocks on the line I've cobbled up are necessary
but don't work.  That is, if I remove them, nothing works, but if I
use them, I get garbage.

Any and all help will be much appreciated.

--
 Bob Rusk
 rrusk@ssd.csd.harris.com
 My thoughts, probably not Harris'.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 09:05:33 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>tym@dibbler.cs.monash.edu.au (Tim MacKenzie) writes:
>>I can do this too... with the SLS sysinstall. List packages installed:
>>'ls /install/installed'. I can remove packages (yes Peter, I for one have
>>used the -remove option to sysinstall). So what is the problem? 
>>No spiffy user interface perhaps???

What? You don't consider "menu" spiffy?! Maybe you want a Mac? ;-)

>>IMHO, the only thing lacking in the SLS sysinstall is some way of getting
>>descriptions of the packages (like the Ultrix setld(8) command although this
>>too is by no means perfect... but that's another story). Also, better
>>"version control" would be nice, so if a package (or subset which is probably
>>a better term) was changed then the name (or something) changed (e.g.
>>man2-000 man2-001 although this is a problem with the stupid MS-DOS
>>limitations [on packages like dviljsrc or ghostscr what do you do?]).

>	Wait!!  We are in Unix here...not MS-DOS.  Why would anyone,
>considering that everyone who is using the extfs says that they haven't
>had any problems, use a minix file system with the stupid MS-DOS
>limitations??  If you want those kinds of limitations, why not get
>FSUUCP and stick to DOS?  I'm quite confused :(

The extfs is still alpha, and isn't quite stable enough for general
release (at least that's the last I heard; if it's doing better now,
some kind of announcement would be nice).
ALSO, I, like many, have to do my transfers through MS-LOSS. I can
go 2400baud Zmodem through Linux or I can use ftp on a DOS box--and
the local phone lines have a tendency to screw file transfers badly.
(Within the next few months, look for a new Linux box on the net:
Jefferson.law.uoknor.edu--that's me ;-) So, in other words, I can
spend a few days doing downloads to get files with UNIX filenames
which may or may not be corrupted, or I can grab a box of disk and
a 286 portable and download the entire SLS distribution by FTP to
a DOS box in just over an hour. Which would _you_ choose?

				James

James P. Callison       Microcomputer Coordinator        OU Law Library 
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	constellation!biglaw!callison@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
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Posted-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:51:10 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,gnu.gcc.bug
From: bray@wcuvax1.wcu.edu (Jim Bray)
Subject: Made gcc-2.3.2 on SLS-Linux of 12/03, what I had to do
Originator: dbt@adm.csc.ncsu.edu
Organization: wcuvax1.wcu.edu (CS Dept., Western Carolina University)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:51:10 GMT
Apparently-To: gnu-gcc-bug@mcnc.org
Distribution: world
Approved: info-gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.gcc.bug

  gcc-2.3.2/install.sh didn't work for me, complained about cp not
getting args, so I changed configure as follows:


 First, /usr/bin/install on my system works fine. Also, gcc is the one
and only cc on this system, and the SLS version apparently was made
with this prefix, so I did the same. I had to make a symlink to fake
/usr/local/gcc-lib: I suspect this will go away when I remake from
scratch.

382,383c382
< 		broken_install=no 
< 		prefix=/usr
---
> 		broken_install=yes

  But then this doesn't really look at the value of broken_install, so
I changed it to a case statement:
1206,1210c1205,1207
< #if [ x$host_broken_install = x ]
< #then true
< #else
< case $host_broken_install in
< yes)
---
> if [ x$host_broken_install = x ]
> then true
> else
1216,1217c1213
< #fi
< esac
---
> fi

  I have just made linux 0.99 with it, so it is working fairly well.

--Jim Bray (bray@wcuvax1.wcu.edu)

(Please Support the League for Programming Freedom, and Boycott ATT
 because of their legal intimidation of BSDI, UCB, and CMU)
From: dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: fdisk with SCSI problem
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:54:39 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1992Dec28.104818.20871@walter.cray.com> rsocia@alberti.cray.com (Rick Socia) writes:
>I booted the SLS 0.98.5 disks, and was in the process of trying to use the
>fdisk supplied to create some partitions.  However, when invoked, fdisk
>responds with "unable to read /dev/hda".  Does any one know why?
>
>My Adaptec 1542B (3.10) and my Quantum 80MB disk are recognized at boot up.
>I do know the the IRQ is set for Adaptec's default value (11?) and not the
>default MFM value (?).  any ideas?

Please POST this one!  I need to know too.
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From: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: mail Q
Date: 30 Dec 1992 07:41:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I've got elm put up, but when I try to send mail, it says it can't find
/bin/rmail - anyone know where I can find the source or binary for rmail?
thanks much.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pfau@coffee.enet.dec.com (Thomas Pfau)
Subject: Re: linux0.99p1
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:13:08 GMT


486sx 20Mhz, 4MB ram, 41MB disk partition, 4MB swap partition

0.99 builds in 21 minutes (no tcpip, no scsi).

Just wish I could figure out how to get X to run on this 90c30...

(Anybody got a spare 40MB IDE drive?)

tom_p
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From: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: RELEVANT SUBJECT LINES!
Date: 22 Dec 1992 04:20:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: sdh@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Heavner)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


	Do you think we could reserve the words IMPORTANT 
and BUG REPORT for posts which actually contain important
bug reports?  On days when I don't really have time to 
read all of c.o.l. I would like to get the important
stuff.  (Yes, I realize that's what c.o.l.a. is for, but
work with me here).

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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: why is it with kernel 0.99 that -fwritable-strings is required
Date: 31 Dec 1992 21:39:56 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu


In article <2B40862D.9B46@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
writes:
>
> According to parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry):
>>
>> The ANSI standard says that "C" strings are of type "const char[]".
>
> Not so.  Otherwise, ` char *p = "foo"; ' would elicit a warning.

The ANSI standard does not specify what should and should not generate
diagnostics.

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From: Brian.Sorensen@f615.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question and observa
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 11:17:00 -0800

. . .

 PM> Anyways, these kind of traumatic changes are occasionally
 PM> necessary, particularly as we are nearing 1.0, after which
 PM> such major changes may not be viewed so charitably.

 PM> I am doing the best I can with SLS.  I can't help the fact
 PM> that minor errors on my part result in extra postings on
 PM> the internet.  A hazard of the trade.  What you don't see
 PM> are the countless hours I spent collecting and configuring
 PM> the tcpip system, shadow passwords, the install scripts, etc.
 PM> Please be patient and you will be rewarded.  But if you need
 PM> a finished product now, try SCO or DELL.

You are doing great Peter, many, many thanks.  Besides, it's still in
beta,
and mostly used by acadamia.  If everything worked, there is a lot of
learning that would not take place.  Thanks to you, Linus, and all the
other
generous people who make *nix a little more available to us all.  Maybe
it's 
time for the Gates house of cards to fall?


... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

 * Origin: Enlightened Board (703) 370-9528 (1:109/615)
From: Dave.Deavours@f303.n232.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Deavours)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anyone have a BBS that runs on Linux?
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:20:06 -0800

 JL> Dunno if this includes source, but RFM0310.ZIP is available for XA
file
 JL> request from 1:343/33 and 1:343/34. The sources are probably
available
 JL> elsewhere if not in this archive, and I've seen the package around
 JL> elsewhere. (Ask questions on the Fido backbone UNIX conference,
several


Got the netmail as well. I'm posting here to let everyone know what's
going on. I'm in the process of porting my BBS to Linux.  Unfortunately
I don't have Binkley for Linux working, or a Linux packet tosser for the
FTSC packets.  If anyone has any knowledge of FIDO compatable BBS
software and mailers for Linux,please drop me a note. 

Dave


 * Origin: PBS BBS Node 3 (1:232/303)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: bbs for Linux
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:16:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.102943.12732@sfu.ca> wonge@fraser.sfu.ca (Edmund Wong) writes:
>checked out sunsite.unc.edu and found a directory /pub/packages/bbs or
>something like that, and it had some BBS source code, but I am not sure
>if they worked or at least, I'm not even sure if that's the actual bbs
>package I'm looking for.  In any event, I downloaded the whole stuff,
>only to realize that 'bbselm.tar'(renamed) and 'bbsuemacs.tar' and
>some other stuff were > 1.44 MB, and thusly, I couldn't rawrite them
>to 3 1/2" floppies, like I did with most of the other software packages
>I got.   

/pub/packages/bbs on sunsite is the source for the Internet BBS that until
recently ran on the UNC BBS (bbs.oit.unc.edu) and which has recently been 
replaced by the laUNChpad system (launchpad.unc.edu).

as usual I plug the BBS. ;) But I do *not* reccomend using the source
in /pub/packages/bbs. Its awful. Truly awful, an ugly kludge.

if you look in /pub/Linux/system/BBS you can find the source for an BBS
called Pirate BBS.  It isn't set up to do Fidonet things, though.

In the same directory is an off-line Fidonet reader. I have heard of 
a Fido "tosser" that is in alpha testing... If someone would upload it
to sunsite I would be appreciative.

>
>   Can someone please help me with this minor/major dilemma?  

the major-minor number I know, but why would you want a minor/major
dilemna?

"bad Unix puns 'R' us"
jem.

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From: duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Third button on a 2-button mouse
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:22:43 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hi all,

I have a two-button Microsoft mouse and I'd like X to recognize that when I
push on both buttonsat the same time it should be interpreted a button 3.  How
do I do this?  Is this an X-specific question or is it an os-specific
problem?

-- 
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                          | do not represent those of this establishment
duperval@ere.umontreal.ca | That's because they don't have enough $$$
duperval@jsp.umontreal.ca | to afford them.  Noone does.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dstein@shell.portal.com (Doug Mr-Science Stein)
Subject: Re: HD: write_intr errors during SLS install
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:42:28 GMT

A quick followup to my own query: 

I received email from Wintermute (apologies if I have mis-remembered your
name) that solved my problem.

Apparently, mkfs does not pay attention to the drive's error list.  It was
suggested that I run mkfs -c, which forces a disk scan and creates a bad
block list.  Problem solved.
From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ANNOUNCE: XpoolTable.1.2 is out!!
Date: 1 Jan 93 04:59:59 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines


Hi linuxers,

For those of you interested in, I just uploaded the new
version(ver.1.2) of XpoolTable(pool game) to export.lcs.mit.edu (/contrib).
It compiles right out of the box under SLS .98p5 X386(this is what
I got for now!).

iarit@tara.mines.colorado.edu
From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:07:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: jti.C03Et1.1E2
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA

nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
>>What I would rather see is a subdirectory per package.  For example,
>>/package/sendmail (and the corresponding subdirectories lib, src, cf,
>>man.1, man.5, man.8, bin, etc).

>>This seems a lot cleaner than every program in the world inserting
>>itself into /etc, /usr/lib/, /usr/bin, /usr/man ...

marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier) writes:
>	Geez...that would make one messy file system...everything
>symlinked to everything else. ...
>	I think this guy is warped by DOS :(  

You're both right!  ;-)  Under SysV, at least, they did provide a script
which would automate the create/destroy operations.  Under 3.2 this is
called 'custom', and under 4.0 this is called 'pkgmgr'.  These programs
are somewhat crufty but they do contain the essential ingredient:  a
master list of the contents of each package, which can be used to
determine all of the filesystem changes performed at installation time.
They also contain such things as file ownership and permissions, so they
can be used to verify system integrity as well.

So, here's the challenge to Russ:  develop a quickie set of scripts to
do this (I got some Perl scripts for generating SCO 'custom' installation
diskettes from someone in Australia; they might be useful as a starting
point) and get them used in the Linux 1.0 release.

Personally, my main goal with this would be to tag each of the binary
Linux distribution packages with version numbers, such that it'd be
easy to determine whether a package has a prayer of running with the
others on your system.  Postings in comp.os.linux.announce would include
these version numbers, and thus solve a now-frustrating problem.

-rich
From: ghod@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: fstat dead under 0.99.1
Date: 26 Dec 92 09:04:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Dec26.140401.2797
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <1992Dec23.002229.21267@uc.msc.edu>, mfrankow@hamline.edu (Mike Frankowski) writes:
> The Wyvern (wyvern@gnu.ai.mit.edu) wrote:
> : The fstat/fuser programs from the ps package seem to be broken under
> : 0.99.1 - an fstat gives this:
> : USER     COMMAND    PID    FD  DEV   INUM   SZ|DV MODE       NAME
> : 
> : and that's it. All the other programs in the package seem to work
> : without any problems. At first I thought that ps and family
> : might just need to be recompiled, as is the case so often, but
> : recompilation didn't seem to produce any results.
> : Anyone else having this problem?
> 
> Same problem here, all other things work (maybe not fuser, but then again
> I have never had a need for it).
> 
> Mike

Count me in for this problem too. I never even thought to test fstat last night
after I built the new kernel, but I tried it just now on another console and
sure enough, I get the same results. 

I've noticed one other peculiarity that has to do with ps. Once in a while, the
command line arguments for one or two processes will get scrambled. I realize
that processes that are swapped out get their arguments replaced with their
command name (i.e. /usr/etc/inet/inetd becomes just (inetd)) but this is
different. What I see is a few random characters where the args should be.
One of them doesn't have any arguments at all. Note that this only happens
periodically and I'm at a loss to determine what sets it off. This little
glitch popped up right after I upgraded from .98 pl5 to .99 and it seems
to have carried over to .99 pl1. Anybody else notice this or am I just special?

-Bill

My stuff:
16Mhz 386SX (No coprocessor)
40 Mbytes RAM
42 Mbyte Seagate ST351A/X IDE drive (38 megs data, 4 megs swap)
1990 AMI BIOS
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: Appendum to problems with AST board
Organization: York University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:50:08 GMT

Hi...

	Hate to disturb...but...

	I had, at one time, found a good FAQ dealing with AST
boards...or so I think I remember.  I cannot seem to find it
at this time...that is, the one that deals with working it on 
Linux.

	If anyone knows where I can find it (and I'm still searching)
please send me email?

	I had posted earlier about having problems with getting
my AST 4Port board to work...and am  still having no success.  It
is for that reason that I'm looking for that FAQ...but if someone
knows the answer, but doesn't know where the FAQ is at, here is
the problem...

	When I boot up the system, the kernel properly finds the
AST board, except it 'recognizes' them as ttys[8-11], which
do not exist.  I figured that I had to mknod them, so I tried it
out, but it didn't seem to work.  After thinking about it, over
dinner, it struck me like lightening...it is 'half' working...I'm
getting communications in one direction, but not the other.  Is
that possible?  It is sending out /etc/issue and login prompts,
but isn't allowing the other end to enter anything.  I set the 
major/minor numbers for ttys11 at 4/75, except I don't know enough
about minor numbers to really believe that this is correct :(

	Maybe someone, probably someone, has more insight into
this then me?

Thanks loads...

Marc