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From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: NOT natural - the judicious answer.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:52:15 GMT
FollowUp-To: aus.flame,misc.test
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
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In article <mddeitch.721323843@syzygy>, Mark Deitch writes:

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Just say NO to anti-choicers!

Dac
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dac@prolix.apana.org.au              David Andrew Clayton.           // _| _  _
dac@prolix.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au      Canberra, Australia           \X/ (_](_](_

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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Brent's ordinary effort!
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:10:12 GMT

SOCC9241430E@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (N.S.W. Sucks!) writes:
>In <brent.721439634@coffeeshop> brent@socs.uts.edu.au writes:
>
>> (Traces of cat remains) writes:
>> 
>>  >It is reasurring to note that any personal comment relating a current issue,
>> 
>> Great opening, Chris, really sucked me in.
> 
>Well if you wish to praise my writing *laugh*, at least try to refrain from
>this analistic type of reply!  Unless of course, if you have a similar fixation
>that Leroy has with the anus.
>
>>                       Brent.
>
>Enjoy your own great openings!!!

When your board you can always try a knight in a castle or queen a bishop.


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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: The elusive new subject (Was: something else)
Keywords: obscene gerund
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 00:09:33 GMT

osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>>Would you care to expand on why Peter Garrett and Alan Jones are "like"
>>each other?  They're completely dissimilar in every significant way.
>[Question: Who is the third member of the trinity?]

A: Princess Anne, of course.


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From: sdwhitel@socs.uts.edu.au ( Sean Whiteley )
Subject: Re: Ignorance (was Re: Computing in Australia.)
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  6 Nov 92 13:09:38 GMT

osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>--


>sdwhitel@socs.uts.edu.au ( Sean Whiteley ) writes:

>>osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>>>Jeezus Sean, stop being such an ignorant shit! 

>>Gee Ive been here less than a week and already ppl are calling me names!...

>I identified Sean's behaviour, rather than "calling him a name". 

>Sean expressed an opinion which was ignorant to the extent that it was 
>quite vacuous and had an obscurely expressed implication that progress 
>(eg, in 'understanding' the human brain) had not occurred - therefore,

Has it.... OK perhaps progress has been made in understanding the "effects"
of the brain, ie cognitive shit, behaviourial antics etc... but have
we come any closer to understanding how this jumble of human tissue, some
of us tend to refer to as "brains", can function to produce such entities
(or non-entities) as conciousness, thought, personality etc??

>any kind of scholarly investigations into such kinds of phenomena as 
>human reasoning, or recall, or 'why obscure beliefs persist in the face 
>of overwhelming evidence to the contrary', etc, are vain (at best), but
>in a business environment (for example), are *undesirable*. To wit, we

Actually, what made me reply to this article in the first place was its
apparent mis-placement in "Computing in Australia". So there were no
Evil business-like overtones in my repsonse

But now that you have mentioned business... Nahh Ill leave it alone :)


>can't ever achieve anything, so we may as well look after number one as
>much as possible - if not, more so - so, we'd be better off as slaves.

Look after yourself as much as possible anyway!

(And being a slave isnt soo bad.. as long as you are with the right 
person/s :)  )

>Of course, I have taken some liberties by presuming Sean's mentality, and
>by predicting or inducing a general stance which his overall view might
>(with due balance of probabilities) imply... ...whether he realises it 
>or not.

My mentality?? Ha! Guess again..

>Tomasso - I really wanted to be a journalist (but only on Thursdays).

Sean - I really wanted to lead a happy life.. but life put an end to that

--
Sean Whiteley -- sdwhitel@socs.uts.edu.au
** What is the original assumption?    **

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From: Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singo)
Subject: Re:  NOT natural ?
Organization: Discontinuous
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 22:15:52 GMT

In article <osborn.721289506@dragon> osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>Argument by "NATURE". Sorry, Mark, but EVERYTHING in PARTICULAR is NOT
>NATURAL - *in General* !!! This came about by a quirk of fate when an 
>elephant stomped on a butterfly many years ago. Life is full of very
>unnatural rare occurrences which nobody could predict - for example -
>who would have predicted Mark's homophobia? It's a queer thing laddie!

Sorry Tom, forgive my ignorance, but why do you say that and elephant
stomping on a butterfly is an unnatural occurence ? . Does not the fact
that it does occur make it natural ? Surely even gene mutation by say
cosmic ray interaction is also natural, the diversity  of nature itself
being guaranteed by quirky events.

Singo.
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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality is NOT natural
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 05:02:47 GMT

peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams ) writes:

>There is only one "a" in "bestiality"!!!

Trust you to be interested in an 'a'!


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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Hell? Ha! Try teaching Ryan. Now that's bad.
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:16:55 GMT

chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser) writes:

>Perhaps you're actually a Virgo? Or a Caesarian?

Another immaculate conception pulled out through the belly perhaps?


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From: mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch)
Subject: Re: New subject, the old is awful.
Reply-To: mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:16:31 GMT

heard@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8)) writes:

 >Laurie (just call me a sensitive new-age male chauvinist pig) 8

 No, i think, Laurie ( just call me Transvestite impotent castrated turkey) 8
 would be closer to the truth. 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	     Mark Deitch           --           Tomb of Technology, Sydney
       mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au    --          Bachelor of Applied Science,
          One life to give.        --               Computing Sciences,
                                                       Undergraduate
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Subject: Leroy's poignant insult!!
From: SOCC9241430E@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (JACKSON,Chris)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:42:38 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
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In <leroy.721021658@ultima> leroy@socs.uts.edu.au writes:

> 
> An excerpt of JACKSON,Chris writings (the unexpectedly funny section):
> 
> >I think your neurotic homosexual emotions are your signature G M Heinrich!
> >Should I say Leroy?  Or is that reserved for your homosexual lovers?
> 
> Well, Craig called me Grant. But James, Brent and Tom Osborn 
> call me Leroy. Draw your own conclusions.

How about boxer or fenech or ali?
They have all received a few jabs in the ring according to various sources!
 
> > If so I will just call you Heinrich!
 
> Well, I'll call you "Slut." I'm glad we've settled that. 

Ohh no, not such a terrible and hurtful name, pleeeeeaaaaase dont call me
that!!

I must admit boxer, that you really have sensational comebacks!
 
> --- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
> Yes. You've lost that hard look virgins have.

Fortunately to women, and not men, hermaphrodites, inanimate objects and 
various forms of wildlife like yourself!!!!

Cheers, 




===============================================================================
= Chris Jackson,		    = "No longer  can  we  live  with  broken = 
= Social Science,		    = dreams,  in a world  where  facades and =
= Latrobe University,		    = superficiality cloud the essence of man =
= Australia.			    = and his future aspirations......we must =
= E-Mail :-			    = cast aside pure materialistic ambitions =
= SOCC9241430E@LUST1.LATROBE.EDU.AU = and work on our future.." Peter Garrett = 
===============================================================================
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From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: Leroy's homosexual fan-club!
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:40:35 GMT

SOCC9241430E@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (The Cat) writes:

>In fact, those stoic defenders of homosexuality have done little but amuse me,
>as I had no intention of portraying homosexuality past Leroy, his initial
>signature and replies, but if you glory-seekers, wish to amuse with your
>political, social or moral rhetoric regarding homosexuality, then good luck
>to you!

Which all goes to prove that Chr'stopher J'ckson does not control his own
destiny to a recognisable extent. 

Into the KILLfile you lugubrious, egotistical nerd!

Tomasso.
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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: Hmm..
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:55:33 GMT

zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms) writes:

>Well, it's been busy on hee lately hasn't it??? erg, well I seem to be 
>missing out on the whole thing, darn it... FDamn, where is my 
>modem... arg!   anyway.....  

Next to your Modess.


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From: peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams )
Subject: Re: Homosexuality is NOT natural
Organization: Design Computing Unit, The University of Sydney
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:29:01 GMT

plutonic??????

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From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Homosexuality is NOT natural
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 10:45:19 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
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In article <mddeitch.721275783@syzygy>, Mark Deitch writes:

>   I cannot understand how people can possibly believe that homosexuality is a

[blather elided]

Which could be comfortably trimmed to the minimum amount of
information necessary for all to understand your circumstances:

>   I cannot understand.

Which is true enough. 

I trust nobody is volunteering to either educate or edificate
Deitch?

Well, it must be time for MD to FO.

Bye Mark. Don't let the UTS arsebandits have their wicked way
with you. Well, not _too_ publically anyhow!

Dac
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dac@prolix.apana.org.au              David Andrew Clayton.           // _| _  _
dac@prolix.sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au      Canberra, Australia           \X/ (_](_](_
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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: JACKSON fucks cats. Pictures at 10.
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:22:51 GMT

brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:

>Great opening, Chris, really sucked me in.

Very dangerous words, easily misconstrued.


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From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: The elusive new subject (Was: something else)
Keywords: obscene gerund
Followup: aus.politics
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:29:56 GMT

axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

>leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:

> >Peter Garrett is a Good Bloke. By that, I'm saying he's an acceptable 
> >Australian philosopher type - like a young person's Alan Jones.

>Would you care to expand on why Peter Garrett and Alan Jones are "like"
>each other?  They're completely dissimilar in every significant way.
  
I'd venture that the similarity may be found in this sentence:

Neither of them (seriously) question the values of their (captive) audiences.

There is a generational effect, but in each case, the emotional force is
directed at the THEM in the US:THEM trinity.

[Question: Who is the third member of the trinity?]

Also, Jones and Garrett are both bald.

Has anyone noticed the different rhetorical tricks of 'finance people' (Hewson
and other bankers) compared to 'economists' (PK, et ALP), and 'MBA types'
(formerly known as Knick, ...)?

Tomasso.
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From: jeremy@sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge)
Subject: Re: The elusive new subject (Was: something else)
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:34:32 GMT
Keywords: obscene gerund

In <axolotl.721559151@syzygy> axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

>leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:
> >Peter Garrett is a Good Bloke. By that, I'm saying he's an acceptable 
> >Australian philosopher type - like a young person's Alan Jones.
>
>Would you care to expand on why Peter Garrett and Alan Jones are "like"
>each other?  They're completely dissimilar in every significant way.

Bombastic and dogmatic are insignificant?

	J
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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Students=Kindy
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 03:01:27 GMT

Just read a.f of late and it's so obvious, just like the kindergarten 
play ground of so long ago, all thats changed is the 'language' usage.
Little spats and baby-boy meets baby-girl(too young and inacapable to do it) 
love trysts adorn the urinal wall of the day.

What an absolute load of purile rubbish. 


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From: mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (m d deitch)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality is NOT natural
Reply-To: mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:45:41 GMT

peterw@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Peter Williams ) writes:

 >plutonic??????
 >

That was meant to read Platonic.
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From: ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar)
Subject: Re: JACKSON fucks cats. Pictures at 10.
Organization: University of the Clouds
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:51:07 GMT

Singular@csc.canberra.edu.au (Singo) writes:
>>brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis) writes:
>
>>>Great opening, Chris, really sucked me in.
>
>Hmm, cute rejoinder now put it away.

I'm glad you like it, it's yours...NOT


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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: The elusive new subject (Was: something else)
Keywords: obscene gerund
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:05:51 GMT

leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:
 >Peter Garrett is a Good Bloke. By that, I'm saying he's an acceptable 
 >Australian philosopher type - like a young person's Alan Jones.

Would you care to expand on why Peter Garrett and Alan Jones are "like"
each other?  They're completely dissimilar in every significant way.
  

--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
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From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Subject: Re: The elusive new subject (Was: something else)
Keywords: obscene gerund
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:31:23 GMT

osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn) writes:

>axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:

>>leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:

>> >Peter Garrett is a Good Bloke. By that, I'm saying he's an acceptable
>> >Australian philosopher type - like a young person's Alan Jones.

>>Would you care to expand on why Peter Garrett and Alan Jones are "like"
>>each other?  They're completely dissimilar in every significant way.
>
>I'd venture that the similarity may be found in this sentence:

>Neither of them (seriously) question the values of their (captive) audiences.

Pretty much. I was thinking more of *reinforcement* of values (Alan
Jones especially).

Your average person (IMO, and this generalisation includes me) can
only seem to manage about two ideas at once, with a few more stored
away for future use. If you don't waste time thinking -- which, IMO,
again, few people do -- you have to depend on someone else's feed.

So we end up with:

GARRETT                                 JONES
Recycling is good                       I was not masturbating
The rainforests must be saved           They should become Australians like us
Corporations are bad                    Minorities should be seen and not heard
The government is lying                 Society wants to help you

etc...

Some of these ideas are valid (Garrett has been extremely useful in
making "the environment" an issue). But the simplistic way Garrett and Jones
present the information makes it easier for their followers to
"sloganise" the debate. The "audience" considers itself concerned
(although all they really know is a few slogans); they can then imagine
themselves to be "socially responsible."

Summarised: people are wankers. Inner-city people are housewives
in black. Everyone is, at the most basic level, the same individual.
Anarchy won't work. People are afraid of what they don't understand,
but few individuals are capable of explaining their positions in
a way that can understood by others -- if the others would listen
in the first place.

Conclusion: Woody Allen is a criminally underrated genius. If I
didn't have such a headache, I'd explain why.

>There is a generational effect, but in each case, the emotional force is
>directed at the THEM in the US:THEM trinity.

>[Question: Who is the third member of the trinity?]

Foreigners, for the Jones crowd.

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
A recent study conducted at a Turkish university has claimed that male mice
continually exposed to disco music become exclusively homosexual. The
study also concluded that the same high-level sound caused deafness
among pigs.
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From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality is NOT natural
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date:  9 Nov 92 06:11:46 GMT

mddeitch@socs.uts.edu.au (Mark Deitch) writes:

>  I cannot understand how people can possibly believe that homosexuality is a
>  natural and perfectly normal sexual condition. I am not prejudiced against
>  homosexuals, 

BUT...

I can't stand this!

Argument by "NATURE". Sorry, Mark, but EVERYTHING in PARTICULAR is NOT
NATURAL - *in General* !!! This came about by a quirk of fate when an 
elephant stomped on a butterfly many years ago. Life is full of very
unnatural rare occurrences which nobody could predict - for example -
who would have predicted Mark's homophobia? It's a queer thing laddie!
From: chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser)
Newsgroups: aus.flame
Subject: Re: Hell? Ha! Try teaching Ryan. Now that's bad.
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:14:19 GMT

ta@labserver.canberra.edu.au (The Avatar) writes:
>
> chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser) writes:
>
> >Perhaps you're actually a Virgo? Or a Caesarian?
>
> Another immaculate conception pulled out through the belly perhaps?


Although, Brent would probably like us to belive he was born (borne?) to this
world on the back of *big* BWM motorbike!

Cheers,
--
Christopher Fraser      "First time surrealists are often confused by the
chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au    similarities between fish and telephones"

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