HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: Re: Unlurking: PIZZA!!
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:35:36 GMT


>>In Spacey's hands are pepperonis, black olives, and pineapples. She
>>sprinkles them next to the fresh mushrooms.  Gleefully rubbing her
>>hands she takes the pizza and brings it to her plate to cut and eat
>>with a fork and knife, that materializes. She takes the first bite
>>and blissfully  "mmm's."

>But..Spacey, It's not a pizza without anchovies. { says Telsor }


  "Anchovies !? You must mean those things with little eyes ! I don't
 like anchovies on pizza, why use bait for food." Rocky Roccocco
 from The Fire Sign Theater... nemesis of Nick Danger...


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "NickD." Pierce.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:27:45 GMT

marie and nathan chatting:
>>
>>>  I'm feeling like I don't belong in.  Mostly what I feel
>>>  is intimidated by the other Callahaners.
>>
>>I occassionally feel this way too.  Then I remember, they're
>>all just people.  Like you.

>  Like me?  Oh, dearie me, what a messed up place Callahan's
>  must be.  :)

>>Just 'cause you don't do math doesn't mean you're not smart.
>>I have a math background, and I skip most of the math postings, too.
>>I do it all day -- don't need it in my recreational time.
>>
>>Sounding smart and being smart can be two different things ;-).

>  True, I guess I'm prejudiced in thinking that people who have
>  degrees in a subject know that subject.  ;)

>>I have a suggestion.  Start your own thread involving your
>>interests, things *you* know something about.  Maybe we can learn
>>something new from you!  Besides, I'd enjoy hearing some less
>>scientific, more "right brained" discussions.

>  If I think of any, I'll try to post them.  (my posts have
>  a bad habit of getting mangled)

>>--Marie

>  Thanks for the advice.  I'm feeling much better than when I
>  posted.  I should know better than to get nea

>  Thanks to you and all the people who have sent mail, it helped
>  me to swing myself up out of that low spot.

>  Hugs to SEA, Shonias, DM, NickD, Niles, kitten, and to the
>  Didi-Sprite, because Hugs can't be given, only borrowed.
>  Sooner or later they return when you need them.

>  Nathan.

"hugs back...to nathan and marie...and everyone else...

i found this GREAT quote in _the ship who searched_ by anne mccaffrey
and mercedes lackey..."Zen hugs--'the hugs that you would get, if we
were there, if we could hug you, but we aren't, and we can't"

they are describing hugs between "shell people"...but it sounds like a
very accurate description of hugs between callahanians..."

kitten is a hug junkie....

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: SEA makes a decision
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:21:28 GMT

salford@orion.lrmsc.loral.com (Stephanie Alford 5850) writes:

The Golden Gryphon smiles as he sees SEA enter The Place again.

[ Much good stuff on the reason for quitting deleted. ]

>Tossing her glass in to the fireplace after toasting:
>"To bravery, or stupidity...it's a step in making a change"

>SEA turns to go back to the meadow, saying "I'll gladly take
>suggestions."

HUG

"Now that that's taken care of...  I think you made the right decision. No job
is worth your health.  You can make $35-$40k/yr pan handling if necessary!
You can apply for food stamps and welfare.  As long as you pay the rent someone
will feed you."

"My real advice to you is to not make the same mistake again.  Don't rush into
the first job offer if your not sure of the people you will be working with.
The worst possible thing that could happen is to start working for another
no good moron, or someone worse!"

"Be consistant, follow up, and when interviewing remember that you are trying to
get a feel for them, as well as them getting a feel for you."

"Be happy, and feel better.  I was feeling much the same as you until I opened
my own business.  I have a lot more energy now, and I'll never do what those
b*****ds did to me, to anyone else."

With Love and Hugs,

The Golden Gryphon

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: and stuff.. as always..
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.192744.23845@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.TXG@forsythe.stanford.edu (TJ) writes:
>TJ jumps in: Or how 'bout my favorite...'I see.' said the blind man
>to the deaf mute, and the man with no legs walked away in disgust.
>


     "One fine day in the middle of the night,
      two dead boys got up to fight
      back to back, they faced each other
      took out their knives and they shot each other
      a deaf policeman heard the noise
      and that was the end of the two dead boys."

                                              Mhoram

-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher 
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: re: An attempt at delurking someone
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:24:04 GMT


  "Hello Helen ! Are you there ? <squrk.zzzz> <thump!> Blasted
cheap microphone... <zhzhzh> Is this thing on ? Ooops !

Hi Helen ! Welcome to The Place !" DJ

Well DM, did it work ?? Uhm, getting Helen delurked, not Mount
Penatubo !

    Hmm. Methinks there is a hologramic stage forming out
in the meadow...

  Linda ! Not yet ! I'm still working on it !

  Sorry Boss !

  The stage fades out...


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "NickD." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Cmp Sci
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "At least my initials aren't Dan Quayle." me
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
Subject: Re: Big ears lurking in the background
Reply-To: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:59:15 +0000

Wumpus sez:
>The Wumpus reappears in a corner, and looks at the brumby, visible through
>a hail of peanuts...
         
>"Wumpus Womb? I hereby take this opportunity to point out that I have
>never been to the Antipodes, and it couldn't have been me...
         
>Grinning devilishly, the Wumpus ambles up to the bar and gets a drink.
         
>"Looks like my newsfeed is springing into life again... so I can turn back
>in to a real lurker again instead of a deaf and blind lurker...

"Hello, Jim. Glad to hear you're re-connected to the Net now."

"So what's up at ICL these days? Come to that, how's ICL doing these
day?!" :-)

>-jim, The Wumpus
><jim@oasis.icl.co.uk> once more, and still 
><J.Cheetham@bra0116.wins.icl.co.uk>...

Alan Ralph <-> Kimberley MonTemplar
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: Delurking a bird...
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:18:15 GMT

rcb33483@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ArchTeryx) writes:

>ArchTeryx looks up from the Golden Gryphon for a bit, feather mites (sidenote:
>they don't like human skin or fur, so don't worry) jumping off of him.

The Golden Gryphon tugs on his flea/tick/mite collar, and knows he is well
protected.  I hate parasites of all kinds.

>ArchTeryx blushes then turns to the others.  "Sorry I've been gone for so 
>long...like the Golden Gryphon, my life's been seriously rough these days...
>I won't bore you all with most of the details (most don't matter anyway)
>but a couple of significant events did take place...

[ Not so boring details deleted ]

>ArchTeryx turns.  "Well, that's all for now...hopefully, I won't be drawn
>back into the lurker's world; unfortunately, by life being what it is, the 
>chances of my avoiding that are not good. :<"

>ArchTeryx sits next to his distressed gryphon and resumes brooding quietly.
>(Isn't brooding what birds do best?)

"I'm concerned for you.  You should not have to live on have a paycheck to 
make up for other people emotional misunderstandings.  I hope you will be able
to cope with this, or find a better position.  RL is much more important than
VR.  I hope you can remember that, and keep it in mine when you meet your
net.friend.  I know too many people that make gaming and VR much more
intense than it has to be."

"I guess what I'm saying is relax.  Everything will workout fine, or it won't.
You will try to make it go the way best for you.  Sometimes you fail sometimes
you succeed.  Worrying doesn't help anything...  Now where did all these
soap boxes come from?"

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Strange Question  (was Responsibilities of Artists...)
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:09:31 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

On the other hand, let us assume that we're inside a metal spaceship,
which could vibrate in response to the shockwave.  How big an explosion
would be required for us to hear then?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Babbage's Birthday Bargain Bash -- December 26th, 1992
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Yet another sleepless night
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:22:26 GMT

aahz says:

>I just have one quibble with your post, your use of the phrase 'men's
>movement': there is more than one men's movement, not all of work the
>way you describe.  E.g. the portion of society that Phyllis Schlafly
>represents could be called a 'women's movement'......
>-- 

kitten replies..."aahz, bite your tongue!  not really...and you are
right...and THAT is disgusting!"

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson
From: rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Stereotypes
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:48:43 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Jul30.175504.20666@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca writes:
>"One thing I always hate about stereotypes, especially unfavourable racial
>ones, are those who actually conform to it.  For instance, the guy who climbed
>up on our balcony and started banging on our window was a Native, and most
>probably drunk.  The guys who hang around downtown near the bus stops late at
>night and importune you for change are Natives.  The most disreputable parts of
>town--downtown, near the bus depot, near the Coliseum--are all frequented by
>Natives.  (This is Edmonton, in case you forget.)
>
>"I hate it!  Why should there be truth to the stereotypes?  I know, I learned
>all about self-fulfilling prophecies in Social Studies.  If they believe it,
>they'll act according to the stereotype.  There's probably a lot of economic
>pressure--people won't hire them because they're disreputable, so they don't
>get steady income, so they get more disreputable...it really burns me up.
>
>"I imagine that the situation with black gangs and such in L.A. and other
>cities is pretty much the same.  In Edmonton, blacks are fairly uncommon, and
>are, as far as I know, almost free from stereotyping as a result.  (The
>Indians[from India--East Indians, they're often called here], Arabs, Chinese,
>etc. have their own stereotypes, though.)  But what I've heard in L.A., and
>what I read in the excellent magazine Love And Rockets(plug plug!  It looks
>like a comic, in some ways, but it reads like stories), and elsewhere, say that
>the black in L.A. is stuck in the same kind of self-fulfilling prophecy
>stereotype crap.  Hence the Rodney King stuff."
>
>Alfvaen grabs the glass Mike has ready for him, downing it without hardly
>tasting it.  "To the day when racial stereotypes will be forgotten!"  He
>slams his glass into the fireplace with great force.
>
><<<CRASH!!!>>>
>

"And to sexual stereotypes, while we're at it!" Chimes in Nathan,
as he send his own glass to join Alfvaen's.

<<<CRASH!!!>>>


Nathan.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Shonias)
Subject: Re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 23:51:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.140556.18360@cco.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>DM:	The number 1000 has only one significant digit, and is therefore to be
>	taken to encompass anything between 500 and 1500 (let's not get into
>	how to round 500 and 1500; that could take up a thread all its own).
>StM:	The number of significant digits in the number 1000 is ambiguous. 
>	Depending on how one looks at it, it could mean anything from 500 to
>	1500, or it could mean anything from 999.5 to 1000.5, or it could mean
>	1000 exactly.
>Is that a reasonable definition of our positions?	

"Sounds reasonable to me, and yes, for fifteen times, I am sure"

>Well, let's apply DM's definitions to my statement of his definition, then:
>1000 means anything from 500 to 1500.  However, applying his definition again,
>500 means anything from 450 to 550, and 1500 means anything from 1450 to 1550.
>450 means anything from 445 to 455, and 1550 means anything from 1545 to 1555.
>445 means anything from 444.5 to 445.5 and 1555 means anything from 1554.5 to
>1555.5.  And so on.  So the logical result of DM's definition, in practice, and
>if you accepted my definition of his position, is that 1000 means anything from
>444.4444... to 1555.555555....  I.e., anything from exactly 444 4/9 to exactly
>1555 5/9.


"Eeeessshhhh! I spend a lot of time in the lab trying to stop people doing
that sort of thing! Sorry StM, but that doesn't make sense! The number of
significant figures is a measure of how accurately we know something. There
is no rounding involved, it is a measure of error, so that disposes of one of
the problems you errr, specifically didn't follow up. :) So, that means that
the *true* value lies between 500 and 1500, significant figures are meaningless
in reference to a true value, since if it is an exact amount, there is no 
error involved. Now as to what *defines* this true value, I'll leave that
to the mathematicians, but this was a measurement that we are discussing, the
domain of physicists (and others), and so we can assume that there is a real
value, and that it lies between 500 and 1500, no significant figures, since 
the whole point of significant figures is to imply that range."

"Did I really just get that involved in a discussion of sig figs? Mike,
I need a drink!"

Shonias



--
***********************************
Thunder and lightning in the dark
Light up the fires inside my heart.
***********************************
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (The Didi-Sprite)
Subject: Re: Story Time! Was: Re: Pepsi Drinkers Unite! 
Originator: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:49:54 GMT

In article <Bs2xK8.3G5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:

[    ]

>> (BTW, kitten sorry about the pipes, glad you hooked up with
>> TC because of it.  See, cold weather has it's uses. )
>
>
>"thanks nathan....yes...i prefer (diet) pepsi....but i can drink diet
>cherry coke...i have never been fond of "southern champagne" (RC)
>however..." 
>
>kitten offers to let nathan sip from her pepsi and bacardi...
>
>"yeah...t.c. just got lucky....:)
>
>of course, that is only the story of how we ended up living
>together...the story of how we met is great too...."
>
>kitten sits back and waits for somebody to say...."kitten, tell us a story..."
>
The Didi-Sprite whispers something in Ramda's ear.  The Teddy Bear then
waddles over to Kitten, looks back hesitantly at his -Sprite who gives
him an encouraging nod, then clears his throat ... "Ahem" ... before
saying:  "I am just a roly-poly-teddy-bear but I love stories!"

----<--<@

The Didi-Sprite
Montreal * Canada

braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: The New Kid
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:51:53 GMT

In article <bsackste.61.711981150@AFIT.AF.MIL>, bsackste@AFIT.AF.MIL (Bernadette M. Sacksteder) writes:
>The New Kid grins. "Do you have a song titled Hail to Hamilton or something? 
>You should! Gosh, just think of it: x number of Hamiltonians massed on the 
>town square, roaring out Hail Hamilton in mighty four part harmony! (x=the 
>number of people currently residing within the city limits plus as many more 
>who really don't have anything else to do and might as well come along). We 
>don't have anything like that in my town. What could we sing anyway? Um... 
>Down With Dayton? Dayton Destroys? Even if we are the "birthplace of 
>aviation" we don't really have any decent town songs (sigh). I think I'll 
>have to change that. Anyone any good at designing songs? I could use some 
>help here."

How 'bout the theme from _Howard_the_Duck_?  Didn't he end up in Dayton in the
movie?
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jesse@uts.amdahl.com (Jesse Mundis)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: msg for Jilara with apologies to to others
Summary: jane's newsfeed is flakey
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:37:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

First off, Apologies to all other patrons for use of the place as a
mail Xfer point, but this bounced twice, and it might be useful info.
For those that are interested, Jilara is only receiving, of all things,
MY posts to news, and none others.  Unfortunately, she also cant receive my
email.. so I'm forced to try and get this to her this way.

-------begin bounced message-----------------
To: jane@stratus.com
Subject: Usenet Strangeness


<Bwahahahahahahaha (evil mad-scientist-laughter)>

Ahh Igor, the new Usenet Squasher is working perfectly!

Wonderful oh master...

But seriously, that is strange.  We are a full Usenet site here, so anything
coming from here that reaches you should be accompanied by a whole slew
of stuff.

Here is a thought.. I just did some checking and found the following:

1) Amdahl passes news to stratus.com via UUCP

2) Some sites pass news by NNTP

3) Sites have this complex arrangement to avoid multiple sendings of news
   to machines by seeing where the news came from, and making assumptions
   about who else already has it.

4) Your NNTP machine may be hosed:

shell prompt> telnet transfer.stratus.com 119
Trying 134.111.1.10 ...
Connected to transfer.stratus.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
502 transfer NNTP server can't talk to you.  Goodbye.
Connection closed by foreign host.

at least it doesn't want to talk to us.

Assumption:  There exists BigSite who is the prefered provider of news to you,
who we get our news from as well.  When we see BigSite in the path of where
this news has been already (most of our mail), we ASSUME BigSite has given
it to stratus, and hence don't send it on.  Lots of other sites do the same
thing.  Now if BigSite has stopped talking to you (i.e. they don't like you any
more, they talk by NNTP and your NNTP machine is hosed, the planets aren't
in alignment or whatever) then nobody else send you news 'cause they think
BigSite is doing it.  Finally, since my news messages originate here, and we
have a UUCP connection to you, my fabulous posts make it to your machine.

This, however could be all wrong.  I rather like the arcane wizardly explanation
better.

My suggestion would by talk to your sysadmin, and see if your NNTP machine
is sick.

Good Luck
Jesse "Usenet Mage" Mundis
---------------------

Anyone else have connectivity with her?

-- 
    Jesse Mundis     |      Amdahl Corporation       | Freedom is just chaos
jesse@uts.amdahl.com | 1250 East Arques Ave  M/S 316 | with better lighting.
   (408) 746-4796    |   Sunnyvale,  CA 94088-3470   |    -Alan Dean Foster 

#include <Disclaimer.standard>
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: lonely
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:25:05 GMT

"DM That was wonderful." Says The Golden Gryphon, as a tear forms in his 
eye.  "Simply wonderful."  He seems very choked up.  The Gryphon hugs DM
feircely and the wanders off to compose himself.

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
Solve a man's problem and he has 1 less.        No incumbents in 92.
Teach a man to think, and all his problems are less.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: Why I react the way I do to some...
Organization: The Cat Factory
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:45:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.222738.22782@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer) writes:
}In article <1992Jul21.184804.2456@ttinews.tti.com> hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
}>
}>"That's the distinction that separates science from faith.  The faithful
}>only seek evidence to support their position.  They never seek to disprove
}>it and would consider it blasphemous to do so.  Science constantly tests
}>and attempts to disprove what it knows in its quest for better
}>understanding of what is."
}
}     Please don't lump all people with faith in one category, please.

"Ok, I won't.  I'll qualify the above to say it refers only to those who
never question their faith.  Good enough?

"BTW, a very closely related discussion is currently going on in
rec.org.mensa.  Sometimes I get confused about which thread I'm replying
to and where I've said what to whom.  Sorry about that."

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405 {rutgers|pyramid|philabs|psivax}!ttidca!hollombe
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Subject: Re: An attempt at delurking someone...
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:32:01 GMT

>  "Helen huh? Reminds me of one of those quasi-physical ISO (International
>Silliness Organisation) standards. The unit of beauty required to launch a
>single ship: 1 milliHelen." Stumpy is thoughtful for a moment. "Hey DM, do
>you think if we built a thousand ships in the lake we could convince Helen
>to come and launch them for us?"

Abner, who had snuck over to the lake to follow this suggestion, sighs as
they begin to founder.  "C'mon, Stumpy, you're responsible for this!  If you
hadn't mentioned it, they would still be floating!  Remember:
"Loose lips sink ships!""