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From: st1sq@Elroy.UH.EDU (Charles Foster Kane)
Subject: EXODUS: The New CD
Reply-To: st1sq@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:45:46 GMT

Does anyone have the new EXODUS CD?

Please give us a review, the single Z-Rock is playing sounds great

.....'cept I'm still hesitant: I >>LOVED<<< "Fabulous Disaster" but
didn't like "Impact is Immenint"

Thanks for any info-
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: [News] Line up of the dead....
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:41:25 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

How 'bout:
     Vocals: Jim Morrison
     Lead Guitar: Stevie Ray Vaughan
     2nd Lead/Rhythm: Duane Allman
     Bass: Berry Oakley (Allman Bros.)
     Drums: Bonzo
     Backing Vocals: Janis Joplin & Roy Orbison

- MC
From: The Painkiller
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: HELP: Black Sabbath's Live Evil
Date: 27 Sep 92 07:07:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep27.050938.27757@nntp.uoregon.edu> tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny) writes:
>
>The vocals are RJD.  The Ozzy material is kind of interesting---some of it
>works, some doesn't.  The Dio songs are really impressive.
>

Excuse me, but I think that the stuff Black Sabbath did with Ozzy is 
LEGENDARY !!!!  Dio was good, granted, but Ozzy was GOD !!!!!!!!!!
 Together, BS cut some all-time classic tracks and Dio comes nowhere even
close !!!!

							The Painkiller


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	Planets devastated,		  |	THE PAINKILLER
	Mankind on its knees,		  |  
	A saviour comes from outer skies  | " Only those who keep faith
	In answer to their pleas..        |    survive the wrath of the
	HE IS THE PAINKILLER.             |    Metallian " - Judas Priest.
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.guitar.bass
From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Subject: Re: a low down list: top five metal bass players
Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:46:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.081443.13374@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes:
>In article <reinarts.1.0@columbia.dsu.edu> reinarts@columbia.dsu.edu (STEPHEN C REINART) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep22.204031.1@pomona.claremont.edu> msisneros@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>>>From: msisneros@pomona.claremont.edu
>>>Subject: a low down list: top five metal bass players
>>>Date: 22 Sep 92 20:40:31 PDT
>>
>>>Hey, since everybody here in alt.rock-n-roll.metal is going happy
>>>posting about their favorite guitarists, I think it's only fair that the
>>>low end be included in this as well, being personally partial to
>>>bassists.  So here we go, the list of best metal bassists according to
>>>Mel:
>>
>>
>>>     1>  Cliff "God" Burton  
>>>                he WAS Metallica...
>>>     2)  Steve "God #2" Harris
>>>                the ultimate king of melodic bass in metal
>>>     3)  the bass player for Suicidal Tendencies
>>>                what on earth is his name...?
>>>     4)  David Ellefson
>>>                that bass intro to "Peace Sells" is way cool
>>>     5)  D.D. Verni
>>>                Overkill is fantastic, and Verni can pump out some
>>>                speed!
>>
>>
>>>        So is the gospel of god-like bass players.  All hail, all
>>>worship!  May the bass step out of the background someday!
>>
>>
>>>                                luv, Mel
>>Hey, has anybody even heard of Les Claypool? None of the other bass players 
>>even comes close in style, speed, accuracy and just sheer fun to him.  
>>Primus IS worth listening too.  No, really, it is... try it and get back.
>>     -??????????
>
>The guy who is definately the best is the bass player in the Rollins Band.
>Go see them live before you comment. He is a giant!!!
>
>Mark

Thought of another bass player BILL LASWELL. Hear him on some of
albums by Last Exit or especially on the albums by Painkiller
which also have John Zorn and the drummer from Napalm Death on
them.  Listen to this stuff before you judge other players.

Mark
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From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Extreme
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:11:48 GMT


What's the big deal with these bands now? Extreme has two songs on their
new album - "Our Father" and "God Isn't Dead?"... hmm... produced by Nuno
nonetheless... I know that Gary Cherone was interviewed in Heaven's Metal
a few years ago... I wonder..

Also I heard some things in the Christian leaning department with War
Babies and Babylon A.D... 

I wanna know the big deal... it'd sure be cool!

Phil

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   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Line up of the dead....
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:01:32 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:

>In article <BvBI6L.C2p@matilda.vut.edu.au>, jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>> osickey@furnace.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey) writes:
>> 
>>>andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>>>Vocals - Bon Scott
>>>>Lead Guitar - Jimi Hendrix
>>>>Rhythem Guitar/Backing Vocals - Mark Bolan 
>>>>Bass - Sid Vicous (Not really, I just can't think of any more dead Bass players)
>>>>Drums - Toss up between John Bonham and Keith Moon
>> 
>>>>Backing Vocals - Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison
>> 
>>>    Why don't ditch that talent lacking Hendrix and the even less
>>>    talented Sid and replace them with Randy and Cliff
>> 
>>>                       azrael
>> You obviously know shit about guitar. I think even Burton
>> would admit (if he was alive) that Hendrix could outplay
>> him.

>Except that Cliff played bass and Hendrix played guitar. But I 
>totally agree. Hendrix was certainly not the most technical 
>guitarist but could play anything.  If once heard an interview 
>with Paul McCartney. It stated that the Beatles played Sgt. 
>Peppers for Jimi at the day it was released which was a Friday. 
>Apparently Jimi opened his show with it on Sunday and played the 
>song the way the Beatles wanted to play it but couldn't. I think 
>that is what Jimi is all about. He could play anything after just 
>one listen. And his next try would be much better!

Yeah I did make a mistake. I meant to say that Randy would
even admit that Hendrix could outplay him. Jimi could
outplay Cliff on bass though. Hendrix played bass on a
number of his songs as was actually an excellent bassist.

Jed
>    Mike
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From: TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:25:23 GMT
 <1992Oct2.161433.4918@colorado.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

Yeah, I wouldn't put Queensryche on a top 5 hated list. Probably because they a
re my favorite band.   But their older stuff (i.e. anything except Silent
Stupidity) is pretty good.  I like a lot of their stuff offa Empire, but their
older stuff, which I  don't consider metal, but harder rock, is pretty kicking.
If you have put QR on your top 5 hated list because you hate Empire, you should
really give their other albums a chance.  Just cuz empty-vee overplayed them,
don't mean they suck.  Lotsa bands are that way actually.

But hey, I don't really care what is on your top 5 hated list, because every on
e has different taste so like what you like.
That's what makes the world go round...
Later eh,

Sime
                                                      Go Pirates!
The poison of love so pure it's deceiving,            Go Pens!
And deceit is all we have it's got to be over         Go Steelers!
It's dangerous this game we play you're
Killing me with words                            (guess where I'm from)
          -Queensryche
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From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Date: 5 Oct 1992 23:29:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: avalanche.berkeley.edu

About this Motley Crue and Margie thing... I can't quote the article because
my newsserver is a bitch and it doesn't let me post articles with more quoted
than typed text in them but here is MHO:
 Even I used to listen to ear;y Motley Crue, although, like somebody's reply
 said, "I am death/thrash" fan. Early Motley Crue was pretty good, compare to
 other OK bands of similar stature. They had a pretty fucked up reputation and
 they were proud of it. Their albums weren't bad either. However, it all went
 downhill after they got into heavy drugs (although they always did it - it      wasn't sudden) and after their "miraculous" revival, the old and raw sound was
 gone.  It is not hard to see that old Motley Crue became a rag team of 
 bust-some-pussy assholes that can't elevate themselves above the girls and
 ever-present orgies.  I don't about other netters but today's Motley Crue
 is worse than Def Leppard, even though their music is not based on one same
 rhythm (i.e., DF).
From: kendrick+@CMU.EDU (Kendrick Kerwin Chua)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: what's the best early Black Sabbath compilation?
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:57:20 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

The best Ozzy-years Sabbath I would say is to be found on the classic
Paranoid, before they started getting experimental.  Besides the title
track, we have "Iron Man", "Fairies Wear Boots", "War Pigs" and a
rocking instrumental called "Rat Salad".  Apparently the album has a
distinct anti-war feel to it as it was written just as Vietnam was
winding down.

Besides that, I like the first self-titled album (Hearing ozzy play
harmonica is a unique experience) and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.  An album
to stay away from is Technical Ecstasy, a very techno-sounding Sabbath
album that most don't like too much.  Personally, I also liked Sabotage
for the one song "Symptom of the UNiverse", but the rest of the songs on
it are pretty cheesy (with big horn sections and Tony playing what
sounds like disco).

Just out of curiosity, what do you think of the Dio-Sabbath stuff? (
IMHO, I love it).


Kendrick Kerwin Chua

kc3u+@andrew.cmu.edu    or
kendrick+@CMU.EDU

Cthulhu for President, 1992!
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From: amgaudra@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alain M. Gaudrault)
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:03:40 GMT

In article <BvC47F.GMI@matilda.vut.edu.au> jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko) writes:
>
>>five most hated pussy bands
>>  
>> 1. Queensryche
>> 2. Poison
>> 3. Skid Row
>> 4. Slaughter
>> 5. Warrant
>
>I can understand the last four but Queensryche are
>a good band. Just because they stray away from the
>standard dull heavy metal bass line you call them
>pussy. They are more innovative than most metal
>bands. Ok so they do have that bloody aweful
>bon jovi\poison hair styling but who cares, their
>music is cool.
>
	Hear, hear!!!  I'm a major death metal fanatic and yet, I can still
admit to loving Queensryche's music.  They're technically proficient in many
aspects and don't put out songs to the tune of "I Want To Make Love To You 24
Hours A Day" and "I Want To Drink Jack Daniels Until I Pass Out".  Intelligent,
innovative band.

A warning of death to come,
						Big Al the Devil's Pal!!
From: ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Scott Jefferson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:49:43 GMT
Organization: Senior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

There are far too many bands that have diluted metal so as to be
acceptable to teenage girls but I'll try to come up with five truly
terrible bands here (to me teenage girls and college students are the
worst influences on music. College students will listen to any old
bullshit as long as the band pretends to care about the environment and
is stupid enough, like The Cure, so that no normal person would like
them so that they can pretend to be hip. Teenage girls just listen to
bands on the basis of looks and hairspray and they are responsible for
all these pansy power ballads. Having almost ruined heavy metal they are
now in the process of ruining rap which I used to love before all these
TLC/En Vogue crap groups came along. College students are also ruining
rap with Arrested Development and so forth but they have actually been a
positive force on metal so far what with grunge but give them time and
they'll ruin it since they have abandoned grunge since it is too
mainstream)

1) Poison (no need to explain this one)
2) Warrant (again no need to explain this.)
3) Trixter (vomit, vomit. I am going to try to show up to the Kiss
concert here in Pittsburgh too late to catch this truly terrible band)
4) Living Colour  (The reason critics like this band is based solely on
skin color. This is also the only reason they won two Grammys or Shammys
as they should be called They have no talent but try to bully people
into buying their albums by calling them racist if they do not. )
5) Bon Jovi (I wish Jon Bon Jovi would be shot down in a blaze of well
not glory but humiliation. Richie Sambora must be the most boring
guitarist on the face of the Earth).


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******
"I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as it's dead
I got something to say. I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as she spread" -- The Misfits
"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
Guns N' Roses
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From: adrian@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Adrian Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Who hates Queensryche (was:Re: Top 5 most hated)
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:04:35 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis) writes:
> In article <92276.222523TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >Yeah, I wouldn't put Queensryche on a top 5 hated list. Probably because they a
> I agree. How come there seems to be so much people who hate Queensryche around
> nowadays. Two years ago Operation Mindcrime was voted the BEST HEAVY METAL
> ALBUM OF ALL TIME in this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> 

It still is the best metal album of all time!
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: kimmel@staff.tc.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:13:26 GMT

In article <Ielli7u00awJ82QEYE@andrew.cmu.edu> Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>1) Poison (no need to explain this one)
>2) Warrant (again no need to explain this.)
>3) Trixter (vomit, vomit. I am going to try to show up to the Kiss
>concert here in Pittsburgh too late to catch this truly terrible band)
>4) Living Colour  (The reason critics like this band is based solely on
>skin color. This is also the only reason they won two Grammys or Shammys
>as they should be called They have no talent but try to bully people
>into buying their albums by calling them racist if they do not. )

Vernon Reid is one of the best and most diverse guitarists in rock today.  He
can play everything from metal to funk to anything else.  Their ex-bass player
Muzz Skilling is a phenomenal bass player.  If all you've heard is the
radio-ready stuff from them you should check out their other stuff.  You might
not like their style, but it's hard to say they have "no talent".

>5) Bon Jovi (I wish Jon Bon Jovi would be shot down in a blaze of well
>not glory but humiliation. Richie Sambora must be the most boring
>guitarist on the face of the Earth).
>
Lesseeee, how about Nelson, Steelheart, Every Mother's Nightmar, Tough (tuff?),
Def Leppard (lately), South Gang, and I'll throw in a single Tesla song becuase
they play it every 15 fucking minutes.  Then there's D'Priest, Vixen, adn that
new band where the oldest kid (who was in T2) is like 14 years old.

-Rick
>
>*******************************************************************************
>******
>"I got something to say, I killed your baby today and it doesn't matter
>much to me as long as it's dead
>I got something to say. I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter
>much to me as long as she spread" -- The Misfits
>"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
>Guns N' Roses
>*******************************************************************************
>******


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From: d90-two@musta.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: Saint Vitus
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:11:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.143348.2741@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
[...my questions deleted...]
>I don't know about "Walking Dead", but "Born Too Late" was the debut of
>former Obsessed guitarist/vocallist Scott "Wino" Weinrich with St. Vitus.
>Good album, look for the "Thirsty and Miserable" EP that came out just a 
>little later. I like Wino better than the original singer, but that is
>personal taste. If you like St. Vitus, you'll like this. I think they started
>letting Wino play some lead guitar on this one. Good idea, since he is much
>better than their other guitarist. <IMHO>
>
Wino is definitly an excellent singer. I think he play guitar on some
song on "V" too, but, I don't recall it as better than usual...

>I wonder if "Walking Dead" is their new one? I had heard that they had one
>coming out....
>
No, I think "COD" is their latest one, it came this spring.

As you might know, Wino is no longer with the band. Does anyone know what
he is doing know?

His replacement in Saint Vitus is Christian Lindersson, formerly in
Count Raven. Judging from his singing on Count Raven's debut album
"Storm Warning", I'd say that he's almost as good as Wino, with a quite
personal style, but before this album his throat seems to have undergone
some serious decay. What is he doing?

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From: farrell@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Top 5 most hated
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:37:04 EDT

My five most hated:

1. Poison
2. Warrent
3. Vince Neil's voice
4. Overcommercialized songs by KISS
   (like the past couple of albums before "Revenge")
5. Great White 
   (well, ok, I like a few of their songs)

--
Margie, not speaking for the OSU    | "If you've got one foot in yesterday
physics dept (I should get back to  |  and one foot in tomorrow, then you're
data analysis and stop reading news)|  pissing all over today." - Dave Mustaine
FARRELL@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu   
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From: jlin@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jonah Lin)
Subject: Re: Extreme
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27584]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:16:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.030615.29642@samba.oit.unc.edu> Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:
>In article <1aammpINNhsu@coral.bucknell.edu> motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.190727.19024@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, cassidy@cps.msu.edu (John J Cassidy) writes:
>>|> In article <1992Sep28.021148.6955@samba.oit.unc.edu> Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:
>>|> >
>>|> >What's the big deal with these bands now? Extreme has two songs on their
>>|> >new album - "Our Father" and "God Isn't Dead?"... hmm... produced by Nuno
>>|> >nonetheless... I know that Gary Cherone was interviewed in Heaven's Metal
>>|> >a few years ago... I wonder..
>>|> >
>>|> >Also I heard some things in the Christian leaning department with War
>>|> >Babies and Babylon A.D... 
>>|> >
>>|> >I wanna know the big deal... it'd sure be cool!
>>|> >
>>|> >Phil
>>|> >
>>|> >--
>>|> >   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>>|> >     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>>|> >        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>>|> >           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
>>|> 
>>|> 	Not to mention "Hole Hearted", which I believe refers to the Blaise 
>>|> Pascal quote that the soul of man has a hole in him that only God can fill.
>>|> 
>>|> 	I think it is pretty convincing.  Take a look at the lyrics; it is not
>>|> a sniveling boy-girl love song.
>>|> 
>>|> 	John J Cassidy		cassidy@cps.msu.edu
>>|> 	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>you know, i have been wondering the same thing for a while now (about Extreme).  if anyone
>>knows what's up with them for sure, let me know.  
>>
>>Also, has anyone heard of Vengeance Rising?  When is their new album coming out?  I hope
>>soon....I have "Destruction Comes" and I love it.  I used to loathe thrash until I heard
>>these guys....they kick!
>>
>>Just curious,
>>
>>John   =-)
>
>Beats me.. they're doing some pre-production work now on it but as of my
>knowledge they are not on any label yet..
>
>Phil
>

  Well, in the issue with Lanny Cordola on the cover, Heaven's Metal had an
interview with  Lanny and in it he talks about him talking to Nuno. I think
Nuno asked Lanny "Why is it that every time I talk about Jesus,my hands starts
to get sweaty?" ,and Lanny telling him (recalling from memory) " You've got
to believe in something man, and I believe in the Truth."
So who knows, maybe Nuno got something out of his talks with Lanny,but I think
he may still be searching so let's pray that the Spirit will convict him (and
the band members) one of these days.

Jonah Lin
(jlin@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu)



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