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From: v134n2mc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (DA AGGRO KID)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NIN's Fixed- where is it?
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec16.004509.33317@watson.ibm.com>, saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer) writes...
>Kyle writes:
> 
>|> is anybody else having trouble finding it? I've
>|> been to most of the music stores in town and nobody's got it.
> 
>Yeah, I can't find it either!!  This is killing me!
>For those of you in the NYC area (tri-state), where have you found it?
>What stores are carrying NIN's _Fixed_?  I've tried a bunch of places,
>including big names like Tower and HMV.  I don't mind driving to get this, as
>long as it's relatively reasonable.  
> 
>|> kyle c schiebel
> 
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--saeed jaffer        		The word cope and the word change
>saeed@watson.ibm.com  		are directly opposite and not the same
>saeed@athena.mit.edu  					--Speech
>----------------------------------------------------------------------					
	The problem might be this.  Look in the CD single section.  I bought it
for $5.98 here in Buffalo, NY.  It's got 6 tracks, and is just like any of the
previous remix discs trent has put out.  Look for a blue variation of the
Broken cover.
	Later,
		Dave
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From: mliggett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mister Wizard)
Subject: Re: Broken/Fixed
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:27:56 GMT

In <Bz45B2.49x@news.cso.uiuc.edu> abish@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Aaron Bish) writes:

>Does anyone know if any of the music stores here in Urbana-Champaign have 
>_Fixed_ yet?  None I've called seem to know anything about it yet.

here in bloomington, i was able to find it today at musicland.
just check the chain stores if you have to
not that i'd normally reccomend this; kill corporatism and keep small
bussiness alive in america.
and all that other capitalist propaganda
fixed is kickin'
not just a bunch of simple mixes/dubs
like the album says, it is a number of 'interpretations' of things on
broken
i am chillin' to it right now
and it is great
the wish mix is very intresting
the happiness in salvery is POWERFUL!
and screaming slave is amazing.. i never thought i'd here something
like this from trent reznor
i can't wait to here downward spiral, although i have a feeling
it's gonna be more poppy..  hope not

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From: biggles@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Matthew Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: NIN : fixed - look in CD singles section
Summary: Heeeere, fishy, fishy, fishy ...
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:05:26 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Title sezitall.

I *had* been looking in the regular stacks, until last night that is,
 for the new "fixed" CD. I thought I was to be disappointed again, until
I checked out the CD single section.

*bingo*


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From: md@theory.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Films with Insanity
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:35:02 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

>
Here's my $.02 for INSANE films:
>
The Ninth Configuration (I think the guy who did The Exorsist made it)

--Mike
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From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Subject: Re: Best song to dance to?
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:42:31 GMT

"JBMHR" is a good candidate, but it lacks one important detail -

OGRE!

One of my favourite dance tracks is Grave Wisdom by SP - simply one of their 
best ever, combining good lyrics and faboulous sound with a good tune!

Just my opinion

                     ====================           
    \_\/_/ \_\/_/    = Fredrik Duprez   =                       
       \   /     oOo = Svedbov. 22      =
       *! !*   oO    = S-740 20 BRUNNA  =
        O O          = SWEDEN           =
        * *          ====================
       *   *         = b92fdu@tdb.uu.se =
       *   *         ====================
       *o o*	
        ***

"It is my opinion, that the man on the shroud is Jesus Christ"

Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:14414 alt.music.alternative:17992 rec.music.marketplace:2653
From: rhett@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Rhett Shain Brown)
Newsgroups: wpi.forsale,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: music for sale
Date: 12 Dec 1992 05:58:33 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

hi, i posted this awhile ago, but it's changed a bit.
I have these tapes for sale $4 each or B.O. (insulting prices not included)
and the CD's as marked.  Respond to my email address if interested. I'll
be checking my account for about a week, so try to respond soon.

Cassettes

Technorave 1       Techno Compilation
Wax UK             American English
Nitzer Ebb         That Total Age
Pearl Jam          Ten
David Byrne        Songs From True Stories
Andy Summers       XYZ

CD's

Front 242         Geography  (epic release 1992)  $8
Shamen            LSI CD5  (7 remixes)  $5

these prices don't include shipping but if you order more than one we can
make special arrangements.
By the way, does anybody reading this have a copy of The Flat Earth by 
Thomas Dolby that they wish to sell?  If so, i would love to trade: I don't
care if it is on CD or cassette.  Even if you don't want to trade, just tell
me anyway, cause I'd still like to buy it.

Thanks
rhett@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: coakley@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Cpl.Flash)
Subject: Re: NIN Broken
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:26:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.143933.2788@maths.tcd.ie> bannistr@maths.tcd.ie (Jeff Bannister) writes:
>Is there any reason why my cd player shows up 99 tracks for Broken
>but tracks 7-99 are each about 2 secs long. Am I missing something?
>
>Jeff.


	Tracks 98-99 should have songs on them. They are around that number
	anyway. Just search around and ye shall be rewarded!
	
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:16:43 EST
From: <KAS155@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry in Phila or Pitt

Does anybody know when or if Ministry/Helmet/Sepeltura are playing in either
of these two cities?

Any info appreciated.

Thankx.
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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: New Kraftwerk ??? (when)
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:19:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.123535.4879@donau.et.tudelft.nl> linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee) writes:
>dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) writes:
>
>>but when I pull out my copy of "Kraftwerk" (the 2-lp set), they're using
>>some gear which you still see in contemporary photos of their setup (in
>>particular, on the "Computer World" sleeve). I'm not sure what to think,
>>really. They might be retaining their controller gear, but altering the
>>sound producing equipment...but in these days when you can upgrade things
>>_so_ quickly, I just don't see the point of the long gaps if that's their
>>excuse.
>
>Point is. They do not just upgrade, but, apparently, they build their own
>equipment. Now that *can* take a while. Besides, the story about
>EC was that the master tapes got stolen or where lost. Supposedly,
>EC was to be Techno Pop.
>
Hm...I dunno about that. I recall an interview with Ralf and Florian in which
they were talking about their equipment circa "Radioactivity" thru "Man-
Machine", in which they were discussing their equipment complement. Now, true,
some of it was their own design and make, but other parts were manufactured
devices. One which comes to mind is their vocoder system, which they
clearly state was made by Sennheiser. I also think that some of the other
equipment on "Computer World" (and hence, probably also on "Electric Cafe"),
was simply made by people working from their designs or specs, as the
"Friend Chip" that's mentioned in the liner notes is another electronic
instrument company over in (I believe) Germany.
	But that's quite true about the "Electric Cafe" tapes...I'd totally
forgotten that the tapes were missing for some time. Still doesn't explain
why we don't have some new Kraftwerk _now_, though...
	Of course, if you want an electro-pop fix _these_ days, it's not so
difficult...

>Erik
>
D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)

>
>-- 
>Erik van Linstee   |   Delft University of Technology   |   I'll be back ... 
>----
>   We are god, 'cause only we can create the idea of his existence
>   in our holy brains...  (Yello)
From: bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: what ever happened Lard
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:49:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Dec15.164326.50034@ccvax.ucd.ie> acoates@ccvax.ucd.ie writes:
>Whats happening with Lard can anyone tell me?
>Have they been killed off or are there any future plans??
>I have heard rumours that something might be released soon but from 
>very unreliable sources!!
>Is Biafra doing anything else??
>
>News doesn't travel fast to this end of the world!!!

Lard news in a nutshell: Al has said in many recent interviews that
the latest album is done... all but the Jello vocals that is.
Jello has said in significantly less recent interviews that he
wasn't too happy with the first album (and by implication, isn't in
such a hurry to run to chicago (austin?) to lay down vocals for
another album he's not going to like).  I fear that this album will
never see the light of day.

Ob-Jello: There's relatively new 7" bootleg compilation of live
performances by Jello, L7, Nomeansno, and some other group whose
name escapes me.  Called "Where are they now?"

Ob-Lard: In LA yesterday, I discovered the oddest thing.  An
"import" 12-inch of Lard's "I am Your Clock" (Virus 88).  Given that
by almost unanimous decision this is considered the worst track ever
done by Lard, exactly which country was subjected to a one-sided
12-inch of this thing and WHY???  I didn't by it, but I wonder who
would!

Reality

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From: davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison)
Subject: Re: They're Coming To Take Me Away ...
Followup-To: misc.test
Summary: "industrial" and "hardcore punk" dorks covering 1960s novelty tunes
Keywords: industrial malcontent pretentious pseudointellectual waste of money
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 21:31:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.033943.9703@sco.com> stewarte@sco.COM (nothing a bullet in the belly couldn't cure) writes:
>Hang on.  It may have been Mr. XIV's only single, or only charting single,
>but it was not the only song he ever did, at least according to the Rhino
>catalog, which offers the album "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!",
>which they describe as "an exact reissue of this classic long-sought-after
>album".  For what it's worth.

        A recent (1992) issue of _Keyboard_ magazine has an interview with
Wendy Carlos in which she reveals that she was around the studio when "They're
Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Ha!" (pardon me if the title isn't exactly correct)
was being made.  She reports that the drum track was comprised of a tape loop;
this was done in an attempt to create a ominous, military-sounding backbeat
that would suit the lyric.

        It certainly fits that Lard would cover this tune, since songs
characterized by excessive monotony and repetition have been Alain Jourgensen's
meal ticket since about 1983.


-- 
John Davison, davisonj@ecn.purdue.edu
"The next time you start to say, 'Purdue isn't as racist as some other places,'
 bite your tongue.  I've lived in the South [U.S.] all my life, and I have
 never encountered as much racism there as I have here."   -- Sumi Rebeiro
From: acoates@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: what ever happened Lard
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:43:26 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

Whats happening with Lard can anyone tell me?
Have they been killed off or are there any future plans??
I have heard rumours that something might be released soon but from 
very unreliable sources!!
Is Biafra doing anything else??

News doesn't travel fast to this end of the world!!!


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ohm@Lise.Unit.NO (Ole Hermann Melby)
Subject: Re: NIN Broken
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 15:50:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.143933.2788@maths.tcd.ie>, bannistr@maths.tcd.ie (Jeff Bannister) writes:
 > Is there any reason why my cd player shows up 99 tracks for Broken
 > but tracks 7-99 are each about 2 secs long. Am I missing something?
 > 
 > Jeff.
 > 
Her we go again...:-)

Try to play song 98 ("Physical" by Adam Ant) and song 99 ("Suck" by PigfacE).
Or is it the other way around? (Can't remeber..)

-OHM
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat)
Subject: Re: Front 242 lp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:09:08 GMT

dsargean@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Kettle) writes:

>I've just heard "Tyranny For You" (is this the right title?). Reaction-
>disappointment. I was expecting something harsh. Instead i was confronted
>with tooooo much tinny synth, and naff drums. I will try and get hold of
>some of their other stuff but i doubt it will be stunningly different.

Actually, _Tyranny For You_ is somewhat different than their older stuff.
If you want something harsh, I doubt that you'd like the older stuff. It's
much more dancy. In fact, _Tyranny For You_ is almost harsh compared to the
older stuff.

I also hear that they're supposed to have a new album out in the beginning
of 1993. I hardly listen to them anymore though...



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From: mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Guholdonk-doorstop)
Subject: Re: films w/insanity
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:12:05 GMT

Nick Enright (njenrigh@mtu.edu) wrote:
: 
: the only ones i can think of are the cult classics
: 
: Dogs in Space w/ Michael Huchinsis <sp> 
: and of course Clockwork Orange
: 
: <<njenrigh@mtu.edu>>
: "Nobody weird like me."   
: 
you've forgotten "Twisted : A step beyond insanity", an early Xian Slater 
movie. Sucks, but it's funny, if you yourself are twisted.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: vidarh@cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: new Clock DVA!!
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:19:23 GMT

I just got a bunch of discs from Contempo, among others the new Clock DVA CD!!
It's called Digital Soundtracks (I may remember slightly wrong...), and it 
contains instrumental material recorded in 89 as tributes to early 40's and
50's movies. The work on this album was postponed when they started to work on
Man Amplified, but now they have found the time right for a release...

It's very moody, repetive and trancey, the sound is very similar to Man
Amplified, one of the tracks on Soundtracks is also a early version og a M.A.
track.

I recommend it!!

Bye,
Vidar

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: douellet@csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Subject: Re: NIN --FIXED--
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:14:17 GMT

In article <1gbodrINNdeo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic) writes:
>
>One comment though...I would have really liked a couple hacked and
>slashed remixes of one or both of the bonus track from Broken.
>A Suck remix or ...Physical remix would have been great..
>
  Adam Ant was interviewed on KROQ yesterday, and one of the questions brought
up was Trent's cover of Physical. He said that he _really_ liked Trent's 
version. He did a good job of it.
-Daniel




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From: GFCARDINALE@poppy.ucdavis.edu (GEOGORY F. CARDINALE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: EBN:  Any comments on their video?
Date: 14 Dec 92 07:34:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

I just purchased the video by Emergency Broadcast Network.
IMHO, it is a must-see (-buy) for fellow industrialists.  At ~$10, it's a
steal!  I'm interested in what others who have seen it think of it.
Has anyone seen them in "concert?"  I believe they were at a (recent?)
L.Palooza, but I don't know if they performed, or just drove around in 
their multimedia vehicle.

Later,

Gc
gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu
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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: Best song to dance to?
Organization: guru's den, Coventry University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:40:39 GMT

In article <BzEnGJ.Bto@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csg068@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Decker) writes:
>"Teethgrinder" - Therapy?
>Possible "JBMH" - Minstry.

guru sez:
	yip, yip, I'll go with those two. The kind of songs that stop you
	talking and head off to the floor...
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 10:29:55 CST
From: Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: REAL title of Ministry's new album

According to Paul Barker, the real title of the album is:

CHAPTER 69: The Way to Succeed and the Way to Suck Eggs

Paul does admit however that the way it was written in ancient Greek
and hieroglyphs are SLIGHTLY wrong, but the title is "CHAPTER" 69
not "PSALM"

Source: Interview

Bones
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* Name:   Bones, Inner Sanctum of Sanctuary, U38956@UICVM.UIC.EDU            *
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* In the song "ringfinger" by Nine Inch Nails, Trent Reznor says: "If I was  *
* twice the man I could be, I'd still be half the man you need."             *
* Assuming Trent is 1 man, how much man would his former girlfriend need?    *
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Opinions
From: watson_mj@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 17 Dec 1992 22:01:46 GMT
Reply-To: watson_mj@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

Basically I'd like some feedback on the following bands, which albums to
buy and which to avoid.

FrontLineAssembly.
Front242.

Cheers,
Matt
From: rshangle@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Rick Shangle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Broken/Fixed
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:17:34 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

Yeah, I was kind of disappointed when I went to the local Record Exchange in
B'Burg here and asked when the new NIN ep was coming out...

"Uh, early next spring. It's called _the Spiral Descent_."
Me: "Um, no. Uhh, _Fixed_? You know, _Broken_ remixes... supposed to be like
     right now..."
"Ohh, never heard of it."

	As of everything I've heard on the net, it was released in the UK on
Tuesday or Wednesday and was supposed to be released here yesterday
(Thursday) or today. I've checked the stores every day, and have found
nothing. I've heard mixed reviews -- either you love it or hate it, I guess.
But I'm a big Reznor fan, even as unfashionable as it has been to be one
recently... anyway...

rick

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From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: DVA
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:29:01 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Dec15.072916.25211@adobe.com> dkletter@adobe.com writes:

> In article <1992Dec14.000421.11206@news.vanderbilt.edu> DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus) writes:
> >They are really neither. Try..... 'minimalist electronic music bordering
> >on the dancy, but experimental enough to make you think twice about it'. :)
> 
> i'd disagree with that... i tend to find both BLACK SOULS IN WHITE SUITS
> and THIRST to be of the avant-jazz nature. try listening again and you'll
> see what i mean.
> 
> hasta.
> -- 
> Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.


	Except for the fact I was referring to their more recent works...
SOmeone had already mentioned (I beleive) their old material being avant-garde
jazz, so I was mentioning their Buried Dreams/Man Amplified Suff.

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From: ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat)
Subject: Re: What a joke
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:52:35 GMT

Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>Actually, I have heard Ogre's voice w/o distortion--the night he apologized
>to the audience for the stuff not working during the show in May '92
>at the Vic Theatr in Chicago.  We were amazed.  After sitting thru
>1 or 2 hrs of his distorted voice, he suddenly had a mousey voice off distor-
>tion--kinda like Mike Tyson's voice!

Yeah, whatever! :-) His voice sounded pretty normal to me...I was at that 
concert, too.

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