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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: Rebuild
Organization: CONVEX Computer Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:33:34 GMT
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In Article <Bw5CMK.3z5@news.orst.edu>, schottd@ucs.orst.edu (Derek Schott) writes:

> Wow! If I had to pay that much for a piston on my KDX I'd quit riding.

	Awww bull.....You'd find the money, wouldn't you...  ;-)

> on two years now) it has shot gobs of oil out the silencer. Switching to
> synthetics has helped, but it is still pretty bad. Tried jetting it
> leaner, but no big difference. Seems to run fine, but it is a pain 

	No simple solution from me. What ratio with synthetics? 
	Just remember that your pipe and mufler will be chock full of the
	crap. No matter what you try, you'll still have it oozing out for
	a long time yet. Replace the mufler packing and if your jetting and
	oil mixture is ok it shouldn't spew black oil out.

	Are your crank seals ok? In other words, is it sucking gearbox oil
	in? You need to check the gearbox level after a couple of rides.
	If it has used oil, you need to change crank seals. You could also
	try to check the pressure leak down. Take it to your local bike
	shop and they should have the equipment and correct bung sizes to
	check whether it's leaking through the crank seals. Probably only
	charge you their minimum shop cost....Actually, crank seals are so
	easy to change, why not just do it...

	Whilst all the KDX's I know all get a little bit smokey, none of
	them drip oil like you describe.

	Cheers and best of luck. 
	George C.

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From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Subject: Re: Busted? or Busted! was:happened to 500cc
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:05:49 GMT

After I finally talked some about Rick Sieman's being misrepresented on 
"60 Minutes", or the likelyhood of something like that happening, Mark wrote:

>  You can probably count on it Dave.  All "dirty laundry" shows have a goal 
>  of stirring up a fight.  The interviewer may have come across to Rick in
>  a way that stirred him up then turned him loose on the camera.  You'd never
>  catch me on a Sally Jesse show.  Its just like escorting yourself to the
>  chopping block.
>_________________________________________________________________________
>mark frampton....O/30 NOVICE   |    You can ride as long as you are alive,
>frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |      as long as you can take the pain.
>                               |  

	Re: Being on Sally Jesse and the like:

	Watch out, Mark.  From what I have seen they only let man - hating 
women into the audience, as well.

	Ride fast, stay loose.  Winter is coming.

	Dave
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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: what to do
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:01:06 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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[... 5am ramblings by a broken rider deleted]

... as was pointed out to me, I _meant_ to say, raise
the _clip_ NOT needle.  

thanks Hesh,


  O                
 <M> MerfMan 
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From: cm403173@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Christopher Macbeth)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Dual Purpose Tires
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:30:38 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

A short while ago, say 2 - 3 weeks, someone asked for info on dual purpose 
tires.  I don't mean to be a dork but could you re-run that?  The responder
cited an article from Dirt Bike.  Sorry, I'm new to the system here at 
CSU and I thought the article would be available for longer than it was.
Now I know to print it.  OOPS!

Oh yeah, I've got an XR350 if anyone else has suggestions.  The terrain
here in northern Colorado is dry and sometimes hard packed, other times
loose and rocky. 

Thanks for the help.  I'm just getting back into dirt riding after 15
yes - fifteen years.  Last time I did this stuff it was in New England
and it's a lot different there, and the bikes are lots different too.
From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: How do you weld plastic?
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:06:01 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <17550035@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, mcclend@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Mike McClendon) writes:
> How do you weld plastic?  That should be the ultimate repair/modification/fab-
> rication for fenders & panels & such.
> 
> I've seen catalog pictures of kits (e.g. JC Whitney) showing a hot-air gun
> (fine nozzle, adjustable 350-800 deg F) and an assortment of plastic welding
> rods.  The claim is most common plastics can be welded -- PVC, ABS, poly-
> ethylene, etc.  JCW wants $100 for the kit.
> 
> So is it like oxy-acetylene -- melt the base material, then dip in the 
> welding rod?  How do you ID the base material, so you don't, for example,
> use a PVC rod on a polyethylene base?  Does it really work?  Is there a
> home-shop method cheaper than $100?

  My KX420 had a leaky fuel tank (in two places) where the previous owner
  had let the pipe rub against it.  I tried various types of patches with
  no success.  It dawned on me that my problem was dis-similar components.
  If I was going to fix that kind of plastic then I needed "that kind of
  plastic" for the patch.

  I had a broken fender laying around that was the outcome of a highspeed 
  loopout.  For some reason I never throw anything out.  I cut the fender
  into small portions then stacked the portions about 2" high ontop of
  a 2x4".  Then took a drill and a large bit and began drilling holes all
  the way through.  I used the drill filings for the patch material.

  I carved out a small conic figure were the leaks were and applied a
  soldering iron to the area.  When it seemed to be melting down o.k. I'd
  apply some patch material then put the iron back to it. After that worked
  in, I'd apply some more and back in with the soldering iron.  I did that
  over and over until the conic was full.  It was about a four beer process.
  It wasn't all that pretty of a job but the tank never leaked again.

  If you are going to use a soldering iron it would be suggestive to use one
  with a heat control.  You want to get the plastic just hot enough to merge
  with the patch.  If it liquifies it will have a tendancy to run.

  MacGoober would have been proud.

  In MXA they patched some plastic using safetywire. Drilling small holes
  semetricly parallel to the fault.  Then using the safetywire to hold the
  two parts together.  It look a lot like the stitches on the Frankenstein 
  monster.  Pretty cool looking.  Kind of makes me wish I had some broken
  plastic.  The holes have to be small, close and uniform.  Every parallel
  stitch is one separate piece of safetywire.  The tieoffs are on the non-
  visable side of the plastic. 
_________________________________________________________________________
mark frampton....O/30 NOVICE   |    You can ride as long as you are alive,
frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |      as long as you can take the pain.
                               |
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Honda XL600 Questions
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:12:31 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <93205@netnews.upenn.edu>, ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George Grevera) writes:
> Were the XL600R's the DP model and were they the 'ancestors' of the
> current XR650L (XL600R --> XR650L and XL600L --> XR600R)?  Does Honda
> have a 'thing' for the LR,RL,LL,RR letter combinations?

here's the way the honda 4-stroke markings seem to work:

	X<a><nnn><b>

where a=(R,L), nnn=displacement in cc's, b=(R,L or nothin')

R means trailworthness
L means street legality

a is the *primary* focus of the bike, b is the secondary.

thus an XL250R is a street legal bike that has dirt characteristics,
knobbies, high muffler, etc.  the XR250L is a dirt bike with
lights/mirrors, i.e. enough to get it registered.  no "L" means its
not street legal (in all states except yew-taaaaa :-), like the XR200R
that bob ciotti's girlfriend rides.

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From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Subject: Re: women@females.babes.au
Organization: CONVEX Computer Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 00:43:01 GMT
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In Article <1992Oct8.195947.22856@rtsg.mot.com>, dunne@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Dunne) writes:

>     Well George, great riding story and good to have you back on the
>     net.  

	Wish I could say it was good to be back......

> Now just to briefly start up a thread that got us in trouble
>     a while back...

	[....]
> 
>     Do they broadcast this show in Oz as we see it?  And are these
>     ladies at all representative of members of your superior sex?
>     (pretty subjective, I know)

	Yes and yes....except for some...
> 
>     Motorcycles?  Well, I've never seen Amanda on a bike, but she hops

	Amanda is welcome to hop on my bike any time...

>     And George, you've "sold out" and gotten yourself a .signature.
>     What's the world coming to???  =B^)

	Life's a bitch being a non-comformist...Besides, had nothing to do
	one afternoon...and the bar fridge in my office was empty...

	Cheers
	George C.

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From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Rebuild
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:10:29 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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Anders Johansson (trsajo@eua.ericsson.se) wrote:
: 

For the record I've got (or had) an 86, 87, 89 and 90 KDX's.

: I've also got a '90 KDX200, and some questions about your mods:
: (My own KDX is stock, at least no mods that I know of)
: 
: In article 5371@gold.gvg.tek.com, bobr@gold.gvg.tek.com (Bob Rhodes) writes:
: > I have a '90 KDX-200 that just turned 3k miles at this year's Colorado 500.
: > It's stripped to the frame in the process of a rebuild.  I'm real happy
: > with the bike, but as long as it's apart, I'd like to take reasonable
: > opportunities for improvements (power, handling, etc) during the
: > rebuild.  Any suggestions are welcome.  Current modifications to the
: > bike are:
: > 
: > 	ATK progressive fork springs
: > 	modified air box (larger air intake)
:                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: 			Exactly how is this done? (and is it really needed?)


The easiest way is to remove the airbox top completely.


: > Bob
: 
: 
: Anders Johannson

There was an earlier post that discussed shimming the power valves to that 
they didn't over-rotate.  When you have the top end off and are doing this
procedure, clean the power valves.  While you have them out of the jug,
inspect the valves as the left valve is prone to loosing teeth.  I've 
talked to quite a few KDX owners who have had problems, including me.

Other recommendations:

I would highly recommend re-valving the rear shock.  Getting the suspenders
dialed in resulted in higher speeds.  

If you still want more power, I would also suggest you have the jug ported.
I had mine ported and it was definitly faster.  I lost some on the bottom
but, IMHO, the 200 engine is not for lugging.

BTW, you _did_ replace the piston when you did the top end didn't you?
Pistons for the 200 run about $25.  Keep a fresh one in and this will 
be one of the most bullet proof motors I've ever seen.

Happy Trails,


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From: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Senior class moto (was Re:Air filters ,was: Rebuild
Date: 9 Oct 1992 00:22:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
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In a previous article, frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com () says:


>
>        Gotta say it Doctor G.  I'M DESPARATE!  I have to race my 125
>        against open bikes.  I need response before I have to think 
>        about it.  I'm usually the only 125 rider in the class.



	What class are you riding? I thought I was the only guy with this
problem as I run Senior (over 30) around here (Ohio). 

	Any other older folks running small bores cause they're more fun?


-- 
Go fast. Take chances.

	Mike S.
From: kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Plastic band-aid
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:13:34 GMT
Organization: Array Microsystems, Colorado Springs, CO. USA
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Mike Baxter (baxter@epcot.spdc.ti.com) wrote:
: all my cash on the bike and some new MSR boots.  I bored holes on either side
: of the offending crack and laced it up with zip ties.  It held fine until the 
: I crashed at 70 mph.  Remember "Go fast and break plastic!"

You can do the same thing and use safety wire.  We've sucessfully 'frankensteined'
lots of fenders and radiator shrouds.  Use a torch to heat up a piece of wire to
make the holes and it will be an exact match.  Works pretty well for a while, 
though is not permanent.

: ______________________________________________________________________________
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: AMA #607249                            |              
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: _______________________________________|______________________________________

Any tune-up races around Muenster or up north around March/April time frame?
We'll have our first enduro in February in Phoenix, but there's a long time
after the first to the second and we might try to use one as a warm-up.

Thanks,

Merf

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From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Subject: Re: Busted? or Busted! was:happened to 500cc
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:32:40 GMT

In response to some comments I made, George writes:


>	-2 C!!  Suffer lad suffer.... Nearly 3 weeks of 25-35 C riding! Ha
>	ha ha ha ha......
>> 
>> BTW... Any comments on the Rick Sieman interview on 60 Minutes, or have you 
>> seen it?

>	Nup, haven't seen it. Don't know if I want to after reading about
>	it. I hear the guy's a jerk, but from where I stand, I see he's
>	done a lot for dirt biking and he's prepared to get up off his big
>	bum and do something about our situation. I must admit that I do
>	enjoy his editorials... I wonder if it was a case of 60 Minutes
>	doing their usual thing of showing the most sensational 30 seconds
>	of an interview and leaving the important stuff on the cutting
>	room floor. I was interviewed some years ago about a CAD/CAM
>	project I was working on and man, did I they go to town on me.
>	Hundreds of people potentially losing their jobs due to our
>	project producing a better end product more efficiently and for a
>	fraction of the cost....I was pissed off...but I digress...
>	Anyone who so obviously spends so much money on beer, pizzas and
>	cheap cigars can't be that bad.

>	Cheers Dave
>	George C.

	Well, I have thought about this Rick Sieman thing for a couple of weeks
now... originally, I was just too upset to get my shit in a group...

	I don't think Rick managed to do our sport a service with his interview.
_But_... I have respected the man and his editorials for a long, long time (12
years, which, for me, is a long time...it's over half my life).  I started 
reading _Dirt Bike_ in the late 1970's, and watched he and Louis McKey's fight
with the BLM progress thru the '80s.. so, I don't understand him calling the 
environmentalists "forrest faggots"... he's got to know that will be killing 
any chance we had with some people...so, what George said about him being mis-
quoted got me wondering... I recently saw a TV show (E.N.G. here in Canuck land)
 where one TV cameraman, having filmed the shooting of a black youth, was being
interviewed by a reporter from a rival network.  To make a long story short, 
eventually the cameraman says: ".. You want me to say he shot him because he 
was black?... Well, I'm not going to say that, because that's _not_ what happen-ed... "

And, as you might guess, the rival network ran.. "And when asked why the officer
shot the youth, Cameraman J. Markwell (I don't remember his name) said : "He 
shot him because he was black.""

So, I wonder if something like this didn't happen to Rick.

Guess I'll never know.

Enjoy the weather.  Snowmobile and ski season is on the way.

Dave
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From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Scott boots
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:13:44 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <1992Oct13.012941.21942@convex.com>, couyant@convex.com (George Couyant) writes:
> In Article <1992Oct12.080721.718@skitzo.dseg.ti.com>, frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com writes:
> 
>>   The rubber soles tend to come off. I have to duct tape them on each time
>>   I use them.  I've tried some adhesive compounds instead but nothing 
>>   seems to work.  Its rubber on plastic.  Any ideas?  An elastic compound
>>   maybe?  How the hell did they make them stay on for as long as they did?
> 
> 	Get them to a shoe repair shop. These guys have access to some
> 	incredible adhesives and know the appropriate fixing procedures. I 
> 	had a similar problem with a pair of AXO's (maybe 12 years ago?) 
> 	and whilst the boots eventually fell apart, the soles never came 
> 	unstuck. Only problem was that the glue stunk! 
> 
    I got a reply also that suggested using Gorilla Snot (3M Weatherstrip
    Adhesive (TM)).  Probably will work.   Anything with 3M marked on it
    usually scares the the hell out of me!   Their stuff must have a bit
    of black magic brewed into it.  :-)

    If your wife ever finds out you're fooling around, hide the 3M (TM)
    while you are sleeping.  I know a lady that got her revenge that
    way on her husband.  (No, it wasn't me!)
_________________________________________________________________________
mark frampton....O/30 NOVICE   |    You can ride as long as you are alive,
frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |      as long as you can take the pain.
                               |
From: couyant@convex.com (George Couyant)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: How to hold bikes on a trailer
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:17:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.1992Oct16.001731.773
Organization: CONVEX Computer Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia
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In Article <17550037@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, mcclend@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Mike McClendon) writes:

> I just finished building a 5' x 8' (3 bike) trailer, and now want to add a
> mechanism for securing the bikes to it -- what's the best way to do this?
> 
	[...various complicated ideas deleted...]

	Get some big chain like 2" links or bigger and measure each length
	to be just a bit longer than the distance from the anchor point on
	the trailer to the top of the handle bars (unloaded suspension) when 
	the bike's in position on the trailer. Anchor one end to the trailer 
	(mabe "D" shackle or as I've done, weld the end link on to the 
	trailer). Make up two big hooks from 10mm round bar that look like 
	this:                     __
			         /  \
				/    |
				     |
			             |
				 __  |
				/   \|
				|    |
				\ _ /

	Now, before you bend the round bit at the end, pass it through the
	chain at two places. One at the end to go over the bars and the
	other about half way down the chain. Hit the end of the loop with
	your welder to make sure it doesn't open.

	The idea is to easilly pass the top hook over the bars and to pull
	the middle hook through the chain as you tighten the bike down.
	Let me put it another way....grab a piece of string and let it
	dangle down. Now pinch the middle of it with your fingers and pull
	the middle up. Just imagine your fingers are the middle hook..right?


                             /` <---- Top hook over bars.
                           /
        Middle hook ---->/|
                       /| | <--- Loose chain after pulling
                     /   \|       middle hook up.
                   /
	         /
		` <--- Trailer anchor.
	
	This method makes it really easy to load the bikes on and they
	won't come loose. We've had bikes fall off because of tiedowns so
	I don't trust them. I've settled on the method after years of
	trying a number of different things. It's convenient, safe and I
	can load the bikes on my own.

	I haven't tried any of these fancy bike carriers and probably
	won't. The chains work well for me and they're cheap cheap cheap.

	Just my 2c.
	Cheers
	George C.

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From: frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Disabled vets
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:09:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: skitzo.1992Oct16.080911.737
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility


   A few years ago I went to the Tony Distefano MX school.  It was
   great fun and I learned a lot. (Especially from Bob Hanna).
   What I didn't realize was that Tony was disabled.  Does anyone
   know the facts about the incident?  

   He had a 4-wheeler that he got around on when not in a wheelchair.  
   I admire him for keeping his interest going.

   While on the subject of disabled.  Has anyone heard anything of
   David Bailey?
_________________________________________________________________________
mark frampton....O/30 NOVICE   |    You can ride as long as you are alive,
frampton@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    |      as long as you can take the pain.
                               |