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From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time, so bad it's bad
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:47:39 GMT

In article <BvnvM6.6EC@inews.Intel.COM> jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:


   Someone mentioned that in order to qualify as a classically bad movie it
   has to *intend* to be good.  BBTS never takes itself seriously, so it
   doesn't qualify.

It depends on what you mean by a bad movie -- the ones that are so
awful you get incurable giggle fits need to have intended to be good
(Plan 9).  The ones that are just plain bad; that you can't even laugh
at the hokey dialog; where even the exposed microphones are boring...
my experience is that most of these are intended as comedies or
parodies.

A serious movie that's bad is funny.  A comedy that's bad is just bad.

-Joe.
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From: Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time, so bad it's bad
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:00:41 GMT
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My friend just walked in and he's becoming quite obsessed with the
topic. First he thought RAD wins but now he's describing this movie
called "Eve of destruction" which in his words was "The only movie ever
to combine sex, action and a horny, crazy female robot. Clearly the
combination just didn't work." I guess it was really, really bad. Any
thoughts?
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From: brea9430@mach1.wlu.ca (breadner kenneth cecil joseph u)
Subject: The controversy rages: HERO
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:44:23 GMT

I just saw this movie last night, and I really enjoyed it. Logging in this
morning, I find I am not alone. But, curiously, it seems as if many people
hated HERO. 

What's to hate here? I found the acting very good to excellent throughout,
and the story-line was suitably thought-provoking. I would add my vioce to
those who think this movie is a "serious comedy", with perhaps more
seriousness than silliness. I would highly recommend this, especially to
those who have ambitions to join the ranks of the media. 

As an aside, is it true that the assistant editor (I think that was his
position) for Channel 4 played Mitch in SINGLE WHITE FEMALE? I can't for the
life of me recall either actor's name, but I am certain they are one and the
same. Am I right?
 
-- 
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Subject: Re: The controversy rages: HERO
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:49:47 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I liked HERO, and I enjoyed Dustin HOffman, as always.

But as I watched the film, I kept wishing that it was Peter
Falk in the seedy trench coat, not Dustin Hoffman.  And I'm
not confusing COLUMBO with HERO, either.  It's just, for me,
it would have worked better.

Nancy

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From: gt0963d@prism.gatech.EDU (Deeptendu Majumder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: 1492
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:31:12 GMT
Organization: The Dream Chasers Syndicate

I felt it would have been nicer if they did the movie in Spanish
and subtitled it. Great cinematography; but I would hesitate to call
it a great film.

d.
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From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: best movie titles
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:18:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Irvine


>In article <23.287AA.9@sansome.com> gj@sansome.UUCP (Gerry Johnson) writes:
>
>>I want to know what people's favorite movie titles are. I mean those titles
>>that are so good you want to see the movie without even knowing what it's
>>about. Those titles that are like a line of poetry.
>
>
>This is a REALLY difficult task as most movie titles are so short, but
>here are some of my picks (no flames please, I tried my best :-)
>
>Unbearable Lightness of Being
>Dances With Wolves
>Until the End of the World
>Mountains of the Moon 
>Chariots of Fire
>
>Does anyone else have some better suggestions?
>
I just thought of a few more (excuse me for following up to my own
post :-)

Gorillas in the Mist
Splendor in the Grass
The Silence of the Lambs

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA
Keywords: Nov. 13
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:15:21 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Anne Rice's Vampire Lestat would make an excellent Dracula movie as well,
wonder if it would be possible to do it justice, 'though.


"All sunshine makes a desert." -- Arabian Proverb
--Brad
From: jcoates@ncrsmg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jim D Coates)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Mimi Rogers movie
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:06:04 GMT
Reply-To: jcoates@ncrsmg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jim D Coates)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Systemedia Group Headquarters, Dayton (Miamisburg), Ohio


Somebody posted info about a movie with Mimi Rogers and a bunch of other
women earlier this week. Could you please mail me or re-post the title of
this movie? I've lost it.

Thanks.

-Jim

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From: gckchin@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Kelvyn Chin)
Subject: The Sacrifice
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:21:36 GMT

Hi, there. I have been wondering for a long time (about two months)
but I still cannot see the sacrifice in Andrei Tarkovsky's "The
Sacrifice". Anybody out there care to enlighten me?

What's the significance of burning the house at the end of the movie?
From: spurrett@superbowl.und.ac.za (David Spurrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Sharon Stone as 6th replicant doesn't hold ice cubes.
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:44:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: superbow.spurrett.12.718926263
Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
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Has it occurred to anybody that the *only* coherent interpretation of the 
ending of *Basic Instinct* is that the Michael Douglas character (Nick? I 
don't really care.) keeps his ice-pick under the bad?

PS: Maybe there are *two* Deckards, one real one and one a replicant, or one 
replicant and the other a replicant replicant, or one replicant replicant 
and ....  [Perhaps the issue is no meant to be solved and we should find 
something else to talk about.]

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From: thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: * The NEW Movie Goofs list!!!!!!
Date: 7 Oct 1992 21:58:15 GMT
Organization: pphphpt!
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From "The NEW Movie Goofs List", article <1992Oct7.145028.16293@njitgw.njit.edu>, by meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman):

># Commando

-How 'bout when Arnold rips the car seat out of her red car.  Later on,
 the car seems to have grown a new seat!


># The Empire Strikes Back
>-Just as the Rebel troops are lining up in the trench, you see smoke
> from a damaged piece of equipment floating by. The AT-ATs haven't
> fired yet!

Just a thought: maybe other problems exist.  Mechanical failures, cold-
adaptation problems, etc.  (Such were certainly mentioned.)  Or maybe just
trying to warm up some big energy guns/etc quickly in the Hoth cold fried
a couple of 'em.

>-More obvious than this - when he is lowered into the hole to get carbon-
> frozen, his hands are tied (behind his back?)...  When he is raised back up
> after being frozen, AND in the beginning of the "Return of the Jedi", his
> hands are frozen in place clearly untied, up in front of him, at the surface
> of the "frozen" block, as if he were pushing against a wall...

No, no, NO!  Pay attention.  As Han is standing in the pit, waiting, a pair
of Ugnaughts are swarming about him, checking things, etc.  One of them
REMOVES THE BINDERS before getting out of the way for the carbon freezing.


># Total Recall

-"The whole core of Mars is ice."  (Or something like that.)  Yeah, right.


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From: ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: the absolute worst movie of all time, so bad it's bad
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:19:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct14.211939.2200
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Originator: schung@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

In article <1992Oct14.161138.3957@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

# What the hell was bad about "Cool World". My friends and I not only like
# the film, but we want to LIVE THERE! Seriously, I thought it was fine.
# Why do  so many people hate it so much? <I liked it as a Good film, not
# a bad movie>

I don't know--how about no plot, no character development, no acting (esp.
Kim Basinger), no plausible human/cartoon interaction...
All in all, even worse than Highlander II (a friend's comment--I managed to
avoid this one).
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movies with people wearing clear plastic
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:32:56 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <37290@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> traveler writes:
>In article <BvBE75.LH7@ddsw1.mcs.com>, pfleury@ddsw1.mcs.com (Patrick J. Fleury) writes...
>>In article <70#pxrm.allyn@netcom.com> allyn@netcom.com (allyn) writes:
>>>I watched Bladerunner recently and loved the scene with the girl running
>>>wearing a clear plastic raincoat.
>>>
>>>I am curious if any of you out there know of any other flicks with scenes
>>>of people wearing clear plastic. 
>>>

I'd like to see a thread of movies with people going through plate
glass.

GMS
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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Beverly Hillbillies: The Movie!
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:26:58 GMT

In article <6570@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John  
Locke) writes:
> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

> # > # Goldie is a good choice for Elly, but
> # > # I'm afraid that her age might be a problem (her eyes).
> # > We need a young Dolly Parton.
> # The actress that plays Corky on "Murphy Brown".  Without a doubt.
> 
> Perfect!
> 
> John

Nah. Too skinny. Need someone a little more on the full-figured side.  
Remember we're essentially talking about walking versions of the  
caricatures in Li'l Abner. Dolly could probably still get away with it,  
but hell if she'd want to.

But to make the movie sell, we really need:

Arnold Schwarzenegger = Uncle Jedd
Bruce Willis          = Jethro
Meryl (still looking for a good comedy role) Streep = Ellie Mae
Kevin Kostner         = Mr. Drysdale
Jody Foster           = Jane
Susan Sarandon (heavily made-up of course) = Granny

This is how hollywood looks at it I'm sure.


AK

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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel)
Subject: Re: Reuse of Music in Film Trailers (was: Danny Elfman)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 03:10:58 GMT

Jerry Goldsmith's music from his many scores (Alien, Freud, and tons
of others) is continually being reused in trailers for movies that do
not contain a note of Jerry Goldsmith otherwise.  I think Goldsmith may
have more movie scores to his credit than John Williams and James
Horner combined.

Ron
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Shooting in circles (was: the absolute worst movie of all time, ...)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:35:53 GMT

In article <chil.718797449@sfu.ca> chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim) writes:
>
>I remember a scene in "The Untouchables" where the four leads
>were sitting around a small table, and while they were talking, the camera
>went round and round and round and round the table. 
>
>  ____>______>_____
> /                 \
> |        #2       |
> ^   #1 Table #3   v Camera goes round and round and round and round...
> |        #4       | (possibly in the opposite direction)
> \____<______<_____/
>
>I'm sure there are other movies where the camera moves all over the place
>while shooting continuously.

This is one of Brian DePalma's favorite camera tricks.  He also used it
in the recent "Raising Cain", and in "Body Double", and probably in some
others that I forget.  

Woody Allen is fond of inverting this shot - putting the camera in the 
middle of a group of people and panning it around in a circle.  He did
that in "Hannah and Her Sisters", and, more recently, in "Shadows and
Fog".

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		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "1492"
Date: 11 Oct 92 04:12:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct11.001251.16262
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct11.014702.2617@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Stephen Daniel Tilson) writes:

>Andrew.Wilson@cm.cf.ac.uk  writes:

GB:
>>>Depardieu is good in _1492_, but I didn't care for the way the character was
>>>written, and a French Colombus was a little distracting.  (And he was
>>>occasionaly hard to understand)  But as a big fan, I think you will be happy
>>>with his performance.

AW:
>>Maybe we should have had an American Colombus?

>>>Greg Bole                                "What kind of mother would I be if I
>>>bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu              didn't give my girls tits...tips?"

>>Andre de-Sarcarstique.

SDT:
>Better yet, an Italian-Portuguese-Spanish one.

Don't forget the Jewish ancestry.

>Steve
>--
>D.A.M.: Mothers Against Dyslexia
>Steve's address is no longer sdt8s@poe.acc.virginia.edu;
>I got booted to a new machine: sdt8s@curry.edschool.virginia.edu.
>I'm working on a new .sig but not as we speak.

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Nous donnons la mort, nous saurons la subir."
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Ent. Weekly-100 Funniest Movies
Date: 16 Oct 1992 19:40:51 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <Bw7x12.Iyw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bonk@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Bonk) writes:
>Entertainment Weekly just published a list of the 100 funniest movies 
>of all time.  The top four are the following:
>1. Airplane!
>2. Some Like It Hot
>3. This is Spinal Tap
>4. Annie Hall

	I can't see why Spinal Tap was so high (only really funny for the last
twenty minutes), but where was Monty Python and the Holy Grail, which I think
is *THE* funniest movie of all time.

						-Jay



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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Fav films?
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:45:15 GMT

This is Spinal Tap, Bladerunner, Liquid Sky, Trancers, Buckaroo Banzai,
Dirty Harry, My Favourite Year, The Stuntman, Batman, The Party.
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From: pattisan@midiline.la.ca.us (Patti Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Robert Vaughn--any good?
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:54:27 GMT
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

> In article <7wa2RB1w165w@midiline.la.ca.us> pattisan@midiline.la.ca.us (Patti
> >gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
> >
> >> explanation.
> [....]
> >May I...I went to LACC with Robert...Yes did do the voice in Demon
> >Seed but I want to let you know that the major reason you sometimes
> 
> I guess it would have been nice if you had responded earlier, but
> in any case, if you are in any contact with Vaughn, you might
> tell him for me that I've always liked his work and would like
> to see him in more roles.  Especially the villains, as I've said
> before.  
> 
> - GMS
  	I'll print out your message and send it to him...
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Subject: GOOF in The Mighty Ducks!!
From: bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (I'm not really a doctor...)
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:16:50 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

  If you haven't seen Mighty Ducks yet, STOP READING HERE!


  In the final game against the Hawks, Banks (#99) gets injured and leaves
the game.  Then a few scenes later you catch a glimpse of him (look for the 
shirt number and name) still on the ice.  Just my contribution to the Goofs
List.

Bart

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From: jgp@raid.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Subject: Re: greenaway book - fear of drowning by numbers
Keywords: greenaway movie book
Organization: Rational
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:31:04 GMT

zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts) writes:

>Could the person who posted info on Peter Greenaway's collection of
>essays titled "Fear of Drowning by Numbers", published by Editions Dis
>Voir email me about where they found the book and what year it was
>published?

>I've had no luck finding it (or Editions Dis Voir) in Books In Print,
>or *any* of the Boston-area libraries (Harvard, MIT, Brandeis,
>Wellesley, etc.).

Here is the info again.  While I ordered my copy from the gallery in
New York, I have since seen it in local bookstores.

If you can't find it, I can probably get one locally for you.

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"Fear of Drowning by Numbers"
published by: Dis Voir
              9, rue Saint-Augustin
              75002 Paris
available in the US from: Nicole Klagsbrun Gallery
                          51 Greene Street
                          New York, NY  10013
                          (212) 925-5157
paperback (6 x 8.5 inches), 152 pages, $20.00
(c) 1988
ISBN: 2-906571-07-5

Greenaway has written 100 short essays about the film "Drowning by Numbers",
ranging from one sentence to several pages in length.  Nearly every one
contains an insight or explanation into the film that I didn't catch.
Some examples:

- the origin of the names of the 100 stars that the Skipping Girl counts,
  many references to other Greenaway films and other art works
  
- the origin of each Cissie Colpitts character

- the origin of the names of the seven Water-Tower Conspirators (all names
  uttered as part of the dying words of famous Englishmen!)
  
- the complete rules of each of the games

- the many running themes (insects, sheep, architecture) and their significance

There are also black and white stills from the film, many of Greenaway's
original sketches, and reproductions of the art works that inspired certain
sets and scenes.

This is a truly amazing insight into the mind of Greenaway and the amount of
thought that goes into his films.  Highly recommended.

Text is in both English and French.

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From: gorrindo@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Sue Gorrindo)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:50:33 GMT
Subject: Re: Wicked, Bad, Scary Movies. (Recommendations anyone?)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies

Well, you are pretty hard pressed to find anything that puts a real
shudder up your spine these days - that is, without splattering you
with gobs of gook.

But, The Changeling with George C. Scott and Trish Van Dervere (sp.)
was particularly good - made about 7 or 8 years ago.  No blood!

And my favorite scary movie of all time - a black and white made in
the late 50's or early 60's - The Haunting - with Julie Harris, Roddy
McDowell - it still scares the holy bejesus out of me.

Enjoy!
From: kight@cis.rand.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re:  The Last of the Mohicans
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:23:19 GMT
Reply-To: kight@cis.rand.org
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA


  >>  Really?  I am not usually sucked in by a loud soundtrack, but I
  >>  thought that the scottish music by Dougie Mclaine was pretty damned
  >>  evocative during the ending chase scene.  I liked it a lot.
  >>
  >>  Did anyone else notice this?
  >>
  >>  doug

Yes!  While I felt the movie overall was good, but flawed, what really
made it for me was the music.  I thought it was wonderful!  In fact, I've
been unable to get the main theme out of my head for about 10 days now.

I read on another newsgroup that the soundtrack was to be released on
September 29 but I've not seen it in any of the record stores I've been in
lately.  Anyone know if it's out yet?

Anne
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