HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gwg33762@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Garret W. Gengler)
Subject: Re: REM lyrics
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:01:15 GMT
Keywords: what are they?

demian@sdf.lonestar.org (Ryan McDaniel) writes:

>I was hoping that some REM enthusiast could supply me with the lyrics
>to "shaking through" off of Murmur. It's a really great song, and I hope to
>include it in my repertoire, if only anyone could tell what good old MIke 
>was actually saying...

At the risk of starting a "what he's really saying" war, here goes....

(brutally stolen from Valerie Ohm's really really good lyrics compilation
 - available on the R.E.M. mailing list at murmur-request@athena.mit.edu )

Happy Happy,
Garret
   .          ----------------------------------------------------------  
   . ____     Garret Gengler          "The tires are the things on a car 
    /o ~ \/|  g-gengler@uiuc.edu       that make contact with the road." 
    \____/\|  University of Illinois                    -- Phish 
              ----------------------------------------------------------    

SHAKING THROUGH - R.E.M.

Could it be that one small voice
Doesn't count in the world
Yellow like a geisha dawn
Deny it all the way

Could this be three beaten
Autumn marches on
Yellow like a geisha dawn
Deny it all the way

Shaking through
All the day

Or have we gone way too far
Taking after rain
Tellow like a geisha dawn
Deny it all the way

Shaking through
All the day
Shaking through
Opportune

In my life
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mneugeba@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Mike Neugebauer)
Subject: Pearl Jam
Keywords: lyrics
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:37:06 GMT

	Hello good people!  I love Pearl Jam, but I have some problems with the lyrics.  Some of  the lyrics are written on the cover of the tape, but most of the time it's only some words.  Can anyone please help me out.  I like to know what they're singing.  Mind you, it's not all songs but a couple, actually most of the first side.  I know bits and pieces from here and there, but that's it.
  
Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: gaiotti@bnr.ca (Serge Gaiotti)
Subject: What is Ray Shulman doing these days ?
Summary: Ray Shulman, Producer 
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:08:11 GMT

Back in the late eighties, Ray Shulman produced the
debut CDs of two good groups:

  The Sugarcubes - "Life's Too Good"
and
  The Sundays - "reading, writing and arithmetic"

Who is this guy ? Has he produced any other band ?
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth on Late Night 9/4/92
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:21:46 GMT

In article <7274@charon.cwi.nl> waal@cwi.nl (Peter de Waal) writes:
>houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) writes:
>
>>And deriding a group that proclamed the gospel of Royal Trux to millions
>>of viewers...have you no shame? :)
>
>Pardon my ignorance, but what is/are "Royal Trux"?
>

   Royal Trux is quite a ferocious New York outfit known to create some
 of the most dissonant, grinding music on the face of the earth.
  Obviously Thurston has to be fan.  It's not dissonant in a necessarily
  FUN way a la Sonic Youth, but far more deeper, painful, and inducing.

    They have a few 7" and a double album out.                 K!z!K




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From: edelosh@brazil.psych.purdue.edu (Edward Delosh)
Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:26:30 GMT

In article <92254.223758MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> Mike Jung <MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>Where does one get this maxi-single (Juliana Hatfield, Forever Baby)?
>I heard it only existed as a promo
>from some dude on the local college radio station.  I'd order it from
>Mammoth if thatwas possible (is it?), but I'm still waiting for my Blake
>Babies and Juliana posters I ordered three months ago...

You should be able to find it in a local record store.  It's even available
in all of the record stores here--in the cultural Mecca that is West Lafayette,
IN.  However, here the cost is $7. 

(By the way, Mike, if you can't find it, I'd be happy to pick it up for you.
BB fans unite!)

Ed
--

Ed DeLosh 
Purdue University
edelosh@psych.purdue.edu
From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth on Late Night 9/4/92
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:19:48 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <2AAD6C0E.3796@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.133752.21580@athena.cs.uga.edu> houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) writes:
>>
>>Hey now - give 'em a break! They're having fun, that's what matters,
>>right? Personally, I think goofin' off on national TV is a step up
>>from their childish first lp... :)
>>
>>And deriding a group that proclamed the gospel of Royal Trux to millions
>>of viewers...have you no shame? :)
>>
>
>  Oh, come on.  I was being frivolous in the first place.
>  Note that I DID complain about not getting it on videotape, so
>   obviously I thought it was worth something.
>
>                                                                 K!z!K

Well, obviously you missed the little smileys... :) :) :)

Question : are we all paranoid?

Answer : Hell yes - and proud of it!


-- 
Joshua Houk || houk@athena.cs.uga.edu
[Co-moderator of the Indie-List - email for info!]
"It's not what you are, it's what you got"
     - Weenie Roast
From: msl9@po.CWRU.Edu (Marla S. Lender)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Holy Rollers
Date: 11 Sep 1992 02:23:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Is there anyone out there that likes the Holy Rollers?  I have
seen them twice and have "As Is", "Fabuley", and a 7-inch called
"Origami Sessions" which has previous recordings of songs from
"As Is".  The music is intense and hypnotizing.  I am surprised
that relatively few people have heard of them and even fewer 
truly appreciate what they have done.  I am looking for any 
other material that they have released, and any comments or 
info about the band.  Any other Holy Rollers enthusiasts- 
please send e-mail.
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: MR. HOUK...
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:39:20 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

> True, true. If you would start thinking for a change, you would see that
> I was *not* saying that anyone sold out. I was disputing the previous
> poster's logic in saying that bands like REM and Nirvana "sold out"
> while Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, etc. haven't. 

As the original poster I feel I should clarify myself. When an artist
deliberately compromises his musical talent and originality simply to
hit the mainstream commercial market and reap the profits that's what
I'd consider 'selling out'...REM's 'Shiny Happy People' is a good ex-
ample. Somehow, it just doesn't quite fit the 'REM' image. I'd expect
them to be a little bit more serious & mature, than to romp around on 
a stage left over from 'Pee Wee's Playhouse' and act childish. But of
course that's my opinion...

>The fact is, they all sell millions of records each. 

Of course--selling millions of records is what the music industry is all 
about. The problem lies in walking the line from art to capitalism...are
you making music for music's sake, or making music to rake in some cash?
Are you sacrificing original musical talent to satisfy your greed by do-
ing what everybody else is doing and playing what everybody else is play
ing?--questions that every artist or musician should ask himself, at one
time or another in his career.

'No true, sincere artist ever did it for the dough.'

		 		 --Jerry Rubin (or words to that extent)

>That's all I said. 

Ok, perhaps I misunderstood you, then.

>Their logic implied that since Nirwanna(bes) and REM have "sold out" 'cause 
>they sell lots and lots of records, but the Pearl Jam hasn't because they've 
>only sold lots of records. (Er...) 

Yes, but IMHO Pearljam, Soundgarden, & the Red Hot Chili Peppers (with the
exception of 'Under The Bridge') have--to a certain extent--retained their
originality in spite of the public's infatuation with the 'Seattle Scene.'

REM's 'Shining Happy People'--no question a 'sell-out' song...too cutesy & 
too optimistic, again, IMHO.

Metallica & U2 are both debatable. But let's put this topic aside and move
on to more pressing matters.

TO THINK THAT THIS ALL STARTED WITH A SIMPLE INTENTION TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE
OF THE POLITICAL-ACTION COMITTEES THAT WERE PRESENT AT LOLLAPALOOZA--did we
really have to go into this argument over whether or not Lollapalooza was a
coporate publicity stunt or the merits of slam-dancing to Ministry?????????
From: altshule@skid.ps.uci.edu (Eric Altshuler)
Subject: Re: Danzig 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:52:21 GMT

Danzig.  Used to be front man for Misfits and then for Samhain.  Weird dude.
Very Satanic.  A friend who saw him says he always goes around in black and
any part of his skin left uncovered, has total sun block on it so that 
"the light will never touch him".  Pretty good music though, IMHO.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From:  (grichmo1@cc.swarthmore.edu)
Subject: Re: Is Sugar good live?
Organization: Swarthmore College
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:02:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.144802.13361@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk
(C D Burdorf) writes:
> 
> 
> I'm considering seeing Sugar in concert in London in a couple of
> weeks and was wondering if anyone out there has seen them and if they
> thought they were worth seeing live.
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> 

Any opportunity you have to see Bob Mould do anything is a good
opportunity.  Sugar's new album is incredible, and rumour has it that these
guys remind everyone of that great club band Husker Du...... (I wonder
why).  Buy the album, buy Workbook by Bob Mould...buy anything by Husker
Du, and go see Sugar. You won't regret it. Get Me a Shirt too.

								-Graham
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From: marier@ninja.zso.dec.com (shawn marier)
Subject: Re: Nirvana split?
Reply-To: marier@zso.dec.com (shawn marier)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:15:47 GMT


Well considering I saw them in concert Friday night, I really doubt the
rumors are true.  If you get a chance to see them live it is worth it, they
put on a great show for the home town crowd.  

I still hurt from being next to stage for 45 minutes during the show.

--
Shawn Del Marier                                marier@rust.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corporation                   ...!decwrl!rust.enet!marier
DECwest Engineering/Seattle			(206) 865-8886
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Manning)
Subject: Re: velocity girl/tsunami/smashing orange info wanted
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:52:34 GMT

Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:

>ObIndie: Go buy the _International Pop Underground Convention_ CD on
>K/Cargo. You won't regret it.

On CD? Do yourself a favor and buy the double album. :-)

Dave
--
[ Dave Manning * Part-Time Instructor * dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu * Testing...]
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From: nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks)
Subject: Soundgarden (Was Re: Temple of the Dog)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:22:26 GMT

In <1992Sep13.165028.11185@tamsun.tamu.edu> raunn@cs.tamu.edu (Raun D Nohavitza) writes:

>I believe "Temple of the Dog" was a band that included
>members of Pearl Jam and SG before those two bands ever
>existed.  They recorded the album you bought and released
>it in about '90, and it has currently been re-released
>because of all the "Seattle band" hype. Thus, I don't think
>you can expect a follow up, although the music is good.

truth about pearl jam, but you ought to check the copyright dates of some
of soundgarden's previous albums:  i believe you will find that they were
around for some time before mother love bone, then temple of the dog,
then pearl jam, was formed.
--
Look for opportunity, not guarantees.
Steven Parks  (309) 677 1271
SnailMail: 1312 W. Main #104 Peoria, IL USA 61606 
E-Mail:  nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu    or    nudnik@buhub.bradley.edu
From: mnf0642@hertz.njit.edu (mnf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Too Pure Records
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:29:13 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

About Too Pure Records and some of its bands, what is the availability
of their bands in the U.S. I am thinking of P.J. Harvey, Moonshake,
Stereolab (1st EP), etc. I have not been able to get anything on this
label in the U.S.

Nuno

PS By the way, Stereolab will be touring the US. Well, that's my asssumption,
   because they will be playing in NJ at Maxwells
From: harton@owlnet.rice.edu (Tracy Brian Harton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PEARL JAM... Jeremy....
Date: 14 Sep 1992 15:09:17 GMT
Organization: Rice University

>>>>I want to know if there is anybody out there who has listened
>into the 
>>>>meaning of Pearl Jam's songs.  
>>>>I was wondering if anybody could give me their opinion
>>>>of the sequential plot of "Jeremy" I think it starts out as
>the boy who was
>>>>always picked on, we all know of one of them, and he chooses
>to rebel.  Then
>>>>through the twists of fate the video shows, or tells me that
>at the end he
>>>>chose to end his life by shooting himself in front of the class.
>Anybody
>>>>else got a decent idea?
>
>>>    Well, in the video, it's also pretty obvious that he shot
>all his 
>>>classmates too.   
 
>>Forgive my ignorance, but, I perceived that as his blood that was
>splattered
>>ever so gruesomely all over them, since, they are frozen in a
>fearful pose.
>>Could that be their reaction to seeing the gun and then, and as
>stated above,
>>the blood was splattered?
>
>
>        Well, Jeremy definitely shot himself at the end of the
>video and  not his classmates.  Everyone (except Jeremy) is frozen
>throughout the  entire video, not just after Jeremy does away with
>all of his problems; so the fact that they are frozen at the end
>is no more significant than them being frozen throughout.  It's
>all about rage.  Nothing more.         
 
I'm not 100% positive on this, but from what I've been told, its about
a kid named Jeremy that shot himself at my highschool (about) two years ago.
Supposedly the times and dates at the beginning of the video match the time
this kid shot himself.  The school was Richardson High school in Richardson, TX (suburb of Dallas).  Basically, the student at RHS asked his teacher to go
to his locker, and returned with a gun and shot himself in front of his English
class..  He said something like, "This is what I went to get..." or something.
I wasn't in this particular class (I was down the hall), but they did
wind up stopping classes for the day and had counselors come in from all the
different high schools..  Like I said, I haven't been able to check the
dates to see if this is really true for myself, but everything else seems to match the true RHS story...
 
 
						Tracy
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: insomnia@carson.u.washington.edu (Ryan Klemmer)
Subject: Re: Nirvana split?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:34:01 GMT

Don't know if it has anything to do with it, but Nirvana was ranting
about not always believing what you read (hear?) on the MTV awards
last night.


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: nagji@ntc02.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Lyrical help needed
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:24:58 GMT

Does anyone out there know the name of the name of this song and who sang it ?

There's only need
I love your need
so much I'm losing me
I cannot see the reason for the pain
with hungery joy
ill be your toy
just hoping you will play
without that hope
my body starts to fail

Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 17:13:39 -0400 
From: David Bruce Dye <dd2y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: CBGB's

okay,
if C.B.G.B. stands for Country, BlueGrass, Blues,
what does O.M.F.U.G. mean?

death.
dd2y@andrew.cmu.edu

touch the puppet head.
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Juliana Hatfield
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Keywords: Blake Babies, Juliana Hatfield
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:05:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.041544.11347@cs.uow.edu.au> u9161910@cs.uow.edu.au (Gareth William Omeara) writes:
>rmason@wpi.WPI.EDU (Robert Hutchins Mason) writes:
>
>	If anyone knows Juliana could they ask her if she wants to
>marry a struggling second year chemistry student from Australia,
>'cause I'd love to get to know her better.
>
>Gareth.

   I already asked her.  She's not interested in a commitment.  :)

   (...OK OK, at least she put a heart on my _Hey_Babe_ CD when autographing)

                                                                   K!z!K
From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Lush
Keywords: tapes
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:44:08 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <lbavaeINNdhg@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> holtz@netcord.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Holtz) writes:

>I bought "Spooky".  It was pretty bad.  All the songs sounded the same.

Listen to it again.  It'll grow on you.  I trashed the album when it first
came out, but it is a damn fine album......

Jack
jis@panix.com
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From: ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi)
Subject: Re: Bailter Space (was Re: Flying Nun bands
Organization: Democrats for Broccoli
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 02:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.151508.620@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys170@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Michael Albrow) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.020555.3533@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi) writes:
>> Nelshbailterspace was the name of the first EP by Bailter Space,

>  The band were actually called Nelsh Bailter Space for about the first year
>and a half of their existence. The first EP was self titled.

Thanks.  Now, can anyone tell me what the name means?


-- 
Ralph Brandi     ralph@mtunp.att.com     att!mtunp!ralph

"I may have had the needle in my arm dozens of times, but I never
pushed the plunger"    -- Presidential Candidate Dave Barry
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Hagop Janoyan)
Subject: Re: Smiths covers?
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:09:08 PDT

In article <kbennett.715559106@milton>, on 3 Sep 1992 22:25:06 GMT,
kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:

>
>winter@gressenhall.sw.stratus.com (Brian Winter) writes:
>
>>Hi - I'm trying to find out about artists/bands that have covered
>>songs by the Smiths, and which songs they covered. The only one I know
>>of is "Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" covered by Act.
>
>>Any others?
>
>I've been hearing a kind of punkier cover of the "Hang the DJ" song
>(sorry, don't know title, butyou know the one I mean) that I've been
>wondering who it's by.
>
>Lena
>
>

The song you're referring to is Panic, by Carter USM.

Pretty weak cover, in my opinion.

-Hagop Janoyan
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Mtv music video awards
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:01:52 GMT

In article <okeefe-100992184509@okeefe.cstudies.sfu.ca.> okeefe@sfu.ca (Juliet O'Keefe) writes:
>In article <BuDnvA.IsD@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v134n2mc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
>(David D Yuhnke) wrote:
>>
>>
>> 	OK, I realize that many of you HATE Nirvana and believe that they fell
>> to the pressures of commercialization.  But what's the deal with the comments
>> they made last night on Mtv's music video awards?  They said something about
>> not being able to believe everything you read, and then they mentioned
>> someone's name.
>
>That name was Joseph Goebbels, minister of Propoganda for the Nazis.


  An earlier post said something about Axl Rose commenting on how Kurt
  and Courtney should be thrown in jail if their baby is deformed, etc.

  That explains Dave Grohl screaming "Axl , asshole, Axl, asshole " at the
  end of "lithium" live.  That should somehow explain Kurt's saying
  "don't believe everything you read".  Maybe the Axl comments were
  posted in Rolling Stone or Billboard magazine.  I'm just speculating.

                                                                  K!z!K
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: smiths re-releases
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:50:40 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

the "how soon is now" single is the next one to be released; i saw
 it yesterday in new york.  on disc 1 are 4 songs; how soon is now
 (edit) and 3 "classic smiths songs not included on 'best of...'"
 
 one of those was "the queen is dead"

on disc 2 (they're doing the same marketing ploy as with charming man"
 is 3 other DIFFERENT "classic smiths" (etc.) songs, and the
 album version of "how soon is now".

save your money.

the greatest hits thing, is neither "greatest hits", nor "most
 liked smiths songs", not featuring any b-sides, out-takes, rarities,
 or anything else.  save your money.

- bob gaj
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 20:40:55 EDT
From: <IO20742@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: U2 FOXBORO REVIEW 8/20/92

I went to the U2 foxboro show (first U2 show for me) and had mixed emotions
about the show. The stage setup blew me away and the band was incredible!!
I was only upset that they only played 1 song from "Unforgettable fire" and
it was not "BAD".  I would have killed to hear it, but they focused on
Achtung and joshua songs, which wasn't at all bad, but I am still left
wondering what made them leaveout such a important song...oh well at least
they played "new years day" and sunday bloody sunday.. I  have a master of
the show on audio tape, it could be graded a VG+ audience recording.please
e-mail me if you are interested in trading, if you have any private  1992
VIDEO i would love to trade audio for it. I also have 2/29/92 lakeland,FL
4/17/92 sacremento, 8/28/92 global satellite interview (last 80 min. only)
and the achtung demos(160 min.)  I would leave the set list on this post
but I don't have it with me at the moment.. I'LL POST IT SEPARATELY AS
SOON AS POSSIBLE.. PROBABLY BY 9/5/92 @ 3 PM EST sorry for any inconvience
again please e-mail any correspondence or info.
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