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From: alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac CDROM (Apple CD300)
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:48:53 GMT

Gary I. Chang writes
> In article <83030@ut-emx.uucp> alex@fiskville.mc.utexas.edu writes:
> > Marco Benini writes
> > The Apple CD150 can be directly connected to the NeXT with no problem.  
> For  
> 
> How about the Apple CD-300 which is Kodak Photo CD ready with faster
> transfer rate... :-)
> 
> 
> > the past few months I have had one connected to my '040 cube (had to  
buy  
> > the NeXT SCSI 2 to SCSI 1 connector) and have used it to read several  
> NeXT  
> > demo software discs and upgrade to NS3.0. As for reading NeXT discs on  
a  
> > CD-ROM connected to a Mac... I doubt you are going to get anywhere  
with  
> > that.
> > 
> --
> +----------------+
> | Gary I. Chang	 |
> +----------------+   NeXT-Mail: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu
> Northwestern Univ.      E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu


I wish we had an external CD300 to demo.  I would try ripping the CD300  
out of our demo IIvx but I doubt I would get very far that way.

BTW... with the CD300 and a PhotoCD you can open your own pictures  
directly into Photoshop or any other image manipulation program (they  
appear as pict files) and it is fast and *beautiful*. Also the CD300 is  
supposed to offer SCSI bus digital sampling of audio CDs... perfect for  
musicians with samplers and (Passport's) Alchemy sample editor. Maybe  
sometime soon NeXT computers will do all this stuff with the new Sony CD  
mechanism and some craftily written shareware.

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From: scotty@gagetalker.com (Scott Turner)
Subject: Re: An upgrade path? (was Re: The road to NeXT hell is paved with ADB keyboards.
Organization: L5 Computing
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:10:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.145153.16285@glv.uucp> jcelam@confused (James Clifton  
Elam) writes:
|> I think I found an accidental upgrade path. I thought my turbo-mono had a  
|> problem with my network h/w. The new motherboard they were sending out was  
ADB  
|> compatible. All (!!) I had to do was buy a new keyboard and monitor. (The  
old  
|> monitor/keyboard would work, and they said I could mix and match an ADB  
|> keyboard and old monitor. Interesting.)
|> 
|> So, that means one could upgrade under warranty by....
|> 
|> Nahh, that would be unfair to NeXT....
Not to mention not covered by your warranty if they catch you at it.

And I don't see how you can plug an ADB keyboard into an old mono monitor, the
plugs are different. My ADB mouse certainly doesn't plug into my Megapixel
mono display.

Scotty

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From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: NeXTColor Printer -- MAJOR DISSAPOINTMENT !!!
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:53:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.221142.7793@ms.uky.edu>, soward@slow.inslab.uky.edu (John Soward) writes:
|> Bill Thorson writes

|> ->   The colors on this printer are all screwed up.
|> -> 
|> 
|> 	Are you using the coated paper...

This is a good point.  There is an option for using plain paper.  From my
observations it squirts less ink.  If you don't use this option all the inks
run together and instead of producing dithered colors you end up with brown.

Within the limits of the technology (this isn't a top of the line 4 color
litho press after all) the quality seems to be good with the proviso that
some combinations of color print better.  Large areas of deep color are a
problem, again because the paper can't cope with so much ink.

The output doesn't bear close examination either, as you remarked, grey isn't
but is a mixure of colors and close up looks red.... you can check this by
printing b/w images.

I certainly rate it higher than the HP color deskjets.

David.
From: dockd@CS.ORST.EDU (Dion Dock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTprinter toner question not in FAQ?
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:06:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1dsl8eINNj8j
Distribution: comp
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: storm.cs.orst.edu

>I'm surprised not to find this question in the FAQ, so here goes.
>Which type of HP Laserjet toner cartridge is the right one for use
>in a NeXTprinter?  Choices listed in the Inmac catalog are:

>1. Laserjet II, IID, III, IIID

bingo.
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From: sherwood@space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford)
Subject: Acorn 610 as processor/coprocessor?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:20:37 GMT


Apples Newton uses a UK chip called the Acorn 610.  32 bit, lots of  
registers, orthogonal instruction set, a speed that is faster than the  
68040, and all in something like 32000 transistors.

 Assuming the truth of this, that I haven't mangled this too badly:

1.  How do they get all this in only 32000 transistors?  Ok, even  
without cache, FPU and MMU?

2.  Something this simple should be cheap to make.  Why haven't we  
started to see machines with a hoard of these on board?  Think about a  
machine with 1 of these dedicated to the screen, 1 to handling IO, a  
dozen to slave for you...
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT --> Studio3 MIDI Interface Cable
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:04:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: cjp@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


Hi folks, I don't have the tools or skill to make this myself.
Neither does Altex Electronics.  They tried, according to the man zs
page pinout scheme which I paste below... but failed.

NeXT 68030 to NeXT 68040 Cable (Null-modem cable)
     NeXT 68040 to Some RS-422 Devices (Null-modem cable)

     Mini-Din        Mini-Din
     68030           68040
     1   (DTR)       2   (DCD)
     2   (DCD)       1   (DTR)
     3   (TXD-)      5   (RXD)
     4   (GND)       4   (GND)
     5   (RXD-)      3   (TXD)
     8   (RXD+)      4   (GND)
     4   (GND)       8   (CTS)

     NOTE: This cable is symmetric and either end may be plugged
     into either system; the 68030 and 68040 labels simply iden-
     tify the signal name conventions used for the particular
     column.  Also note: when interconnecting 68030 and 68040
     systems, the 68040 flow control device names should not be
     used since 68030 systems do not support flow control.  This
     cable will allow some RS-422 devices to be used with 68040
     systems; however, not all RS-422 devices will function
     correctly.

Is this the right pinout scheme?  My system is a NeXtstation Mono Turbo.

If anyone wants to put one of these together for me and make a few
dollars in the bargain, let me know.

Casey Palowitch
cjp@unix.cis.pitt.edu

From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: NeXT --> Studio3 Cable
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Keywords: 

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**   cjp@unix.cis.pitt.edu       --  of computer professionals: those  **
**  cjp@icarus.lis.pitt.edu      --       who know NeXT, and those     **
**     cjp+@pitt.edu             --              without Jobs.         **
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From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Subject: RISC -- What's the story
Reply-To: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:28:12 GMT

Hi,

I haven't checked for new postings for the last month -- what are the RISC chip  
postings all about?  Has Motorola killed the 88110?

E-mail preferred.

Thanks!

- Eskandar
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From: schaper@fwi.uva.nl (Lancelot Schaper)
Subject: Should I buy a NeXT -> Thanks!
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:06:26 GMT

I'd like to thank all of you who reacted earlier.
I found out the following things:

	1] I must not buy the NC/ND combination, but the Next color turbo
	   instead.
	2] NeXT will not fade away in the coming years, that pleases me!
	3] I sould look for the NextStep 486
	4] Everybody agrees that the NeXT software beats the Mac's
	5] There's enough software, as long if you don't want CAD
	6] NeXT should be the best choice

Well I'm glad that everybody told me the same stuff, so I must take it for
facts. Most people asked me what apps I would like to run, so I post them
here.

- First of all I like to run graphical apps.
  I want to make animations, and I need the video I/O ports.
  I also need the 32 bits color, but that's not the _most_ important thing.

- I will use it for lots of DTP work, so I really need the 21'' monitor.

- I need MIDI ports and the software like Steinberg's Cubase.

- It has to be real fast -This seems not to be a problem, I guess-

These are the main things. Wordprocessing, spreadsheets, etc. will run on
any computer, so I won't mention that.


Like to hear from you all again. Thanks, Lancelot



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   Universiteit van Amsterdam                      Nederland
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From: tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley)
Subject: Re: Old Floptical Spin Problem Revisited...
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:36:27 GMT

In <2245@deadmin.ucsd.edu> rdf@arad.ucsd.edu (Ronald D. Fellman) writes:

>My old R/W Optical Drive is starting to have spin problems.  However, I
>did try cleaning it (with that fancy tool they sold) and tried other 
>ODs.  I'm afraid that the problem might be that the laser diode is
>getting weak.  Does that sound plausible? 

Insert a known good disk with the write protection tab deployed.
There is a good chance that it will read perfectly.

Do sumarize if you find something a bit more useful.

... Richard
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From: jfr@RedBrick.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Information about Steve Jobs
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:16:47 GMT
Organization: Red Brick Systems, Los Gatos, CA

In article <1992Nov4.114927.242@prim> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes:
>In article <Bx67rv.M6o@ccu.umanitoba.ca> tacchi@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mark G. Tacchi) writes:
>>In <gunnaraa.12.720801002@dhhalden.no> gunnaraa@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR AARNES) writes:
>>
>>>We are some students who are going to write an essay about Steve Jobs.
>>>Any help will be appreciated(history, facts...)
>>
>>There is an interesting book called "Accidental Millionaire."  It's about the
>>2 Steve's from before the beginning of apple to when Jobs left to form NeXT.
>>
>
>I read a biography of Steve Jobs called "The Journey is the Reward" about
>a month after buying my cube. It made scary reading. A lot of NeXT's
>waywardness over the past couple of years is explained by Steve Jobs
>personality. The guy is an arrogant egomaniac, er... I mean visionary.

  In "West of Eden", author Frank Rose suggests that Jobs surrounds himself
  with a "reality-distortion field" that he turns on (and off, I guess)
  as a defense and attack mechanism.  People close to Steve tend to get
  caught up in the "field" at least until they return to Earth.  You don't
  get the feeling that he is so much arrogant as he is so totally self-
  confident that he can't always get in touch with reality (maybe that's 
  the same thing :-)  What I mean is that his arrogance isn't malevolent
  but rather well-intended but often misguided.  It sure does explain
  some of the behavior from NeXT.  I often wish that Steve would take
  an active interest in the Internet, at least on one news group, this
  one, so that we, as users could be more in touch, and so that he too
  could be more in touch.  Probably just too busy :-)

  Jon Rosen
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From: songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer)
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark
Keywords: mach multiple processors NeXT OS RISC
Organization: Lexington, KY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 20:14:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.234547.22120@serval.net.wsu.edu> gerkman@binky.csc.wsu.edu (Joseph M. Gerkman) writes:
>I'm not so sure that there wouldn't need to be additional changes made for  
>multiprocessor support in the NeXT OS and Mach, if the information  
>provided by hostinfo is to be believed (but then again, I'm assuming it's  
>correct):
>

This is correct -- support for multi-processor reportedly dropped single
processor performance by 20 to 30 percent. It (along with external pagers)
was disabled from the Next mach kernel.

-Chris

PS: Does anyone else find it interesting that shared objects work on top of
RPC rather than mach ports?
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From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Re: Mac CDROM (Apple CD300)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:52:01 GMT

I just thought I'd throw my $.02 in to anyone who's interested.  A 
friend of mine had a PhotoCD so we threw it into my NeXT CD drive and 
it just showed up in the File Viewer!  Naturally there was no software
that could read the image files, but they were all there.  Anybody
know of software for the NeXT that can read the PhotoCD format?  

This disc was what's called a 'single-session' disc.  Apparently these
discs should be readable by most CD drives.  It's only the 'multi-
session' discs that need a new type of drive.  Don't flame me 
if I'm wrong, just kindly post a correction.  This is just my un-
educated understanding of how it all works!

Paul
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From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:31:08 GMT


From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Sparc classic -- there *is* edu pricing
Date: 11 Nov 1992 18:00:13 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA

Here is the data I got:

EDUCATION PRICING
 
SPARCclassic
============
                                 List        End User  
                                =====        ======== 
 
15" color, 16MB, 207MB          $4,295       $3,356        
19" grey, 16MB, 207MB           $4,995       $3,944        
16" MR color, 16MB, 207MB       $4,995       $3,944        
16" color, 16MB, 207MB          $5,995       $4,784        
19" color, 16MB, 207MB          $6,995       $5,624      
 
15" color, 16MB, 424MB          $4,795       $3,776      
19" grey, 16MB, 424MB           $5,495       $4,364      
16" MR color, 16MB, 424MB       $5,495       $4,364      
16" color, 16MB, 424MB          $6,495       $5,204      
19" color, 16MB, 424MB          $7,495       $6,044       
 
Server, 16MB, 1.05GB            $5,295       $4,196      


I wonder what the price for a dozen edu boxes is :-)

        -ans.
-- 
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From: schaper@fwi.uva.nl (Lancelot Schaper)
Subject: Should I buy a NeXT?
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:32:52 GMT

Hi, all of you NeXT-owners...
I'm going to buy a new computer and I'm thinking of a NeXT (Cube/Dim. Card)
and a Quadra 950. I like to buy this NeXT system, but everybody tells me that
that's not a good choice, because NeXT will die within two years from now and
there is not enough software anyway.
What's true about these rumours? Will NeXT survive the comming decades or not?

Please mail your reply also to me -I mean don't put just a follow-up- because
I don't know if I'll be able to read the news next week. Thanks in advance.

Lancelot

			Email: schaper@fwi.uva.nl



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   Universiteit van Amsterdam                      Nederland
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From: hanzel@teal.csn.org (Karl Hanzel)
Subject: this modem?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:39:15 GMT

I couldn't see where anyone has reported on this modem-in-question in the faqs
so I'll ask here:  Has anyone used, or might there be opinions about:

	Computer Peripherals Inc.,  "Viva 14.4/Fax Modem"

I do not yet know all the jargon, but they specify:

	V.32bis high speed, full-duplex data modem w/ V.42bis &
	MNP5 compression, plus V.42 & MNP2-4 error detection and
	correction.  Hayes & G3 compatible.  $299 external.
	Comes with "Quick Link II FastFax" DOS sw (so what, right?)

So, do i understand that this is a 14.4k baud modem?  Could someone summarize
all of the "V-this, V-that" lingo for me... I take it to be different
compression schemes, but i-dunno, how's it all work?  Price ok?  NeXT
compatibility?

Other suggestions for a fax-modem?... the faq's seemed sorta dated on the
topic.

Thanks for any & all.
pax,
   Karl
   *----->
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:15:30 EDT
From: <HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTColor Printer -- MAJOR DISSAPOINTMENT !!!
 <1992Nov5.221142.7793@ms.uky.edu>

I've been using one of the Canon BJC-800 color printers for some time, hooked u
p to a peecee. It is identical to the NeXT except color of case and interface c
able details, which don't affect the print engine. Given that there have been m
ajor criticisms of the NeXT version of the printer, I have a few observations o
n the PC version that should apply.

(1) Colors do not come out consistantly on the printer - different printers wil
l produce slightly different tones, especially in colors that involve lots of i
nk mixing. I think that the only way around this is for NeXT to bundle a NeXT-C
olor-Printer-Tuner thingy that allows you to remap colors between the printer a
nd the screen. Unfortunately that won't help if it turns out that the colors va
ry between ink cartridges, or even worse, with room humidity or temperature. We
 haven't noticed either of these two problems with our printer. BTW, what we've
 done with the PC version is to print out sample pages with squares for each st
andard Pantone color code on the PC (Corel Draw). We ignore what the color _sho
uld_ be and settle for the fabulous color saturation we _do_ get with the BJC-8
00.
(2) It makes a _HUGE_ difference what media is used in the printer. Photocopy p
aper looks different from good bond paper, transparencies are significantly dif
ferent than coated paper. All this makes sense. To resolve color calibration we
 always use the Canon coated paper. Okay, it costs $.05 per sheet, but given th
e cost of the ink that is pretty trivial (we pay $50Can for color cartridges, a
nd $30Can for black, and these cartridges appear to last about fifty to a hundr
ed fairly darkly saturated pages in any one color - ie for typical pages we cha
nge the lot an average of once per 200 pages. Of course, some colors get used m
ore. I'm kinda partial to the red, myself :) ).
Remember that no ink jet printer will ever really be Pantone 'Perfect' without
some kind of day to day tuning. It just won't happen! The NeXT printer is prett
y darn good for the $$ (or is that $$$), but should be treated as an approximat
e color device, not an absolute color device.
BTW, Canon has a fantastic new printer out, that is a color printer, scanner an
d photocopier all wrapped into one. The resolution is considerably better than
on the BJC-800/NeXT Color Printer. It costs twice as much, more or less, but gi
ven the other abilities that isn't so bad.

Rob Harrap
Dept. Geological Sciences
Queen's University
Kingston, Ont.
Canada
Harrapr@qucdn.queensu.ca
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
Keywords: sun, classic, sparc
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:50:36 GMT

ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman) writes:

>And yes, $4K buys you quite a lot.  You certainly don't get all the
>NeXT goodies (NeXTstep, devtools, bundled apps), but for all I know
>most real-world *users* don't care much about how easy IB is.  

Most real-world *users* who have used NeXTs and Suns will tell you
that the NeXT has a far superior user interface.  You are right,
users don't care that apps are 10 times faster to build with IB.
They do care that:
- IB helps programmers to create applications that are CONSISTENT.
- The NeXTSTEP interface is vastly more intuitive to users (esp.
people who are not used to managing .twmrc files and such) than
OpenLook.  

I still say - show the average end-user (in business, or education,
or wherever) a typical NeXTSTEP app and a typical Solaris app and
you will see that the response indicates that people like NeXTs
better.  Until NeXTSTEP is ported to Sun equipment (God forbid),
NeXT machines will have a clear advantage, at least to me.

>I hope NeXT will announce new hardware *soon*.  Sun has already
>announced that they will switch to Display PostScript, and once they
>do, the SparcClassic will become *very* attractive for DTP since it
>will offer almost twice the power of a NSTC for half the price *and*
>upgradeability.

What is power if users aren't productive?
-- 
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University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                  BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 05:12:20 GMT

In article <BxoGH5.9xn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)  
writes:
> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> 
> >In article <BxMnKq.A45@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David  
> >Lemson) writes:
> >> 
> >> What is power if users aren't productive?
> 
> >Q. What is elegance without muscle?
> 
> >A. NeXTstep 3.0 on our NeXTs.
> 
> Personally, I think that 3.0 on a 16 MB mono machine runs as fast as
> I could expect a machine of that price to run.  I think that 3.0 on
> a 32 MB color machine runs as fast as most users would expect a
> personal computer to run.  That is, a computer that is mostly used
> by one person. (explicit definition of PC in my eyes)

I think that's reasonable.  Now get NeXT to lower the price to
that of a personal computer.

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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