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From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing Vietnam
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:13:06 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

>|> >Does anyone remember the surfing scenes in Apocalypse Now? I'm curious as t
>|> >whether there really is any surf along the Vietnamese Coast and whether
>|> >there have ever been any reports on surfaris or surf spots.

I saw a short bit on CNN about a surf contest to be held in Viet Nam.
They showed a sweet beach break about head/chest high. Most Vietnamese
are kinda short so take that into account!  I also read something about
the real China Beach Surf Club, maybe in SURFER? It seemed a US soldier
surfer started surfing there on R&R and it caught on. They kept their
boards in a makeshift "clubhouse" on the beach. They told a story about
North Vietnamese snipers shooting at them while out in the water. They
paddled towards the horizon out of range and stayed there for a few
hours......I thought shoulder hoppers were dangerous.......A guy I work
with grew up in Viet Nam and says the beaches are beautiful.  My wife
was born here but her family is from Viet Nam, there are relatives still
there.  I'll have to have them check the surf for me.
   O
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833       You don't stop surfing
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil         because you grow old,
  /     David Taylor Model Basin         You grow old because
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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: g9024557@cc.uow.edu.au (James Phillip ANDREW)
Subject: Re: Surfing Vietnam
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 22:32:44 GMT

jackson@cc.und.ac.za (Clive Jackson) writes:

>Does anyone remember the surfing scenes in Apocalypse Now? I'm curious as to 
>whether there really is any surf along the Vietnamese Coast and whether 
>there have ever been any reports on surfaris or surf spots.

I seem to remember an article in one of the surfing magazines: apparently
there are waves including the odd cyclone swell but it is very fickle.

Jim
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: dboucher@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Dawn Roxanne Boucher)
Subject: North Shore Surf Report
Keywords: surf report
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:01:16 GMT
Expires: Sun, 25 Oct 1992 10:00:00 GMT

Well, it's shaping up on the North Shore!  I can only hope that 
the surf is as good this winter as it was last winter.

The story starts last friday, October 9.  I was being a good grad.
student and slaving away in the laboratory, when I get a phone
call.  Country is unreal says my boyfriend and I should get on it!
Needless to say I drop everything and bail work to go surf.

Unfortunately, by the time I reach the North shore the winds have
turned a light on-shore and its pretty junky.  The size was still
there, so out I go at Pupukea.  It was about 4-5 feet with an 
occasional close out set.

I caught a couple of really fun rides and ate it on a couple of
waves.  It was really hard to judge what the wave was going to 
do.  Some of them would back off at the last minute and some of 
them were doubling up and getting real thick!

This one wave I went to take off and right when I stood up it
sort of ledged up, so I stepped hard on my front foot to get over
the edge.  Well, I guess I stepped too hard cause I went straight
down.  Kaboom!  I thought I'de hit bottom for sure.

Saturday, I didn't get out until about 2pm.  It was nice and pretty
clean.  The swell had dropped quite a bit.  It was only 2-3 feet.
I surfed Kammies, which was working pretty well.  I fully crashed
into these two people.  It was a guy and a woman.  The jerk guy had
brought this woman out at 2-3 foot Kammies and she was obviously
just learning to surf.  She could barely paddle.  Anyways, this big
set ( ~4 feet) came through and they got drilled.  So I manage to  
climb on one, not realizing these two kooks have set up a road
block.  The drop was kind of late and when I look down the line,
there is no place to go.  What a nightmare!  Fortunately, I didn't
ding my board.

Boy, it sure seems crowded this year and the tour isn't even here yet.
I can't imagine what it is going to be like in late November, when
all the pros decend.


Hey, could I get some copies of those .gif files mailed to me.  I
guess we don't get alt.pictures.binary.misc, cause when I tried to
read it, it was not available.

Laterz,
Dawn




Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: tab@tfs.com (Theresa Breckon)
Subject: surf pics
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:55:37 GMT

Ok, I thought someone said the surf pics where in alt.binaries.picture.
Did I just jell? No surf pics to be found. Can someone please clue me
in on where they are? Thanks.

On a side note, some remote surf safari news. My fiancee, Mark and his
buddy Tim are traveling down the coast of the North Island, having a great
time surfing some clean 4-5 footers. I wish I could tell you the name of
the places they are surfing at, but Mark could barely pronounce them and
I definitely couldn't spell them. I think he said one of the names of the
places they traveled through meant Big (maybe white?) shark.

They rented some crazy dude's car who picked them up to give them a
ride to a surf spot. He rented his car for 2 weeks to them for $100 USD.
They are meeting more sheep and cows then people. They did meet a
cool old guy who owned a rather deserted cafe. After he told them his
life story... 11 kids, wife died...  he offered to cook their store
bought spaghetti for them after Mark and Tim told him they were
camping and cooking their own stuff to save money.  Then he took them
to some hot sulpher pools. They camped there and reeked
of sulpher for 2 days.

Water is about 60F...
Bad news is: Tim's a bit chilly as he lost both of his brand new
  wetsuits the 2nd day of the trip (while the crazy dude was driving
  (wildly) them to a surf spot).  They apparently flew out of his board
  bag strapped to the top of the car. Backtracked for 45 minutes... no
  wetsuits. 

Good news is: Some kid in NZ is pretty happy right now... and warm.
   AND Tim is a great photographer (has had a couple pics in
   Surfer), so Mark will be getting a little more photo time as they travel
   further on, where the water is supposed to be even chillier.

They are heading out to Aust on Saturday, for 1-2 months. I've already
set them up to hook up with Nigel once they get in. I can't wait for them
to tell me what Nigel is like in person.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark)
Subject: The longboard is mine!
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:17:14 GMT

  Thanks to everyone who gave me advice on the purchase
of a used longboard.  Yesterday I paid $40.00 ($10  less than
asking price), strapped it to my cars roof, and brought it home.

The good news:  I got a 9'9" Gordon and Smith board.  Both the
board and fin are the original shape.  The stringer is an inch wide, 
a dark wood with a beautiful grain showing through.  There is
no water damage to the stringer. The first 3 inches of the nose is
wood,  built with strips of wood the same size as the stringer,  
laid perpendicular to the stringer on both sides.  Also about 
3 inches of the tail has the same wood treatment as the nose. 
About 3 feet from the tail of the board on the top side is a large
logo "Surfboards by Gordon and Smith".  In the stringer just
above the logo is a serial number stamped or burned into the
wood (# 3690).  The board has not been in the water for over
10 years and is dry (not water logged).

The bad news:  The board has been left in the sun for years and
has yellowed.  The foam seems to be water stained in some areas
from dings that were not repaired quickly. The are about 30 dings
in the board, most have been repaired, but some were repaired with
some kind of quick-fix gunk that has turned white and cracked with
age.  The dings that were fixed with glass are ugly.  On one rail 
at the nose the Fiberglas is cracked through and there is minor
damage to the foam (some foam is missing). The very end piece
of woodwork on one side of the tail is missing.  Several layers
of thick Fiberglas on the nose and tail obscure the woodwork. 
The board weighs 31 lbs.

So, what do I do now?  I would like to fix it up.  Not a full
restoration, just fix all the dings right, and redo the nose and
tail.  Can I do this, or is this better left to an "expert"?  Bud 
Carlson mentioned that with the serial # I could find out who
originally purchased the board. So Bud, how do I go about this?

Thanks 

Danny
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        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: A small surf ! (I had one too)
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:56:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <1992Oct15.020617.23073@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, cnquinn@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au writes:
> Hi, Nig!
> 
> In article <1992Oct14.014200.4327@cs.uow.edu.au> u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson) writes:
> [.. stuff deleted ..]
> 
> >He is a total beginner and just practiced paddling around and
> >catching white-wash.
> 
> We all did that, once.  It gets hard to remember when you drop into a
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Au contraire. legend has it that Clark was born on a surfboard, and
    learned to surf before he had teeth.

> quick one and there's some buoy bobbing around right where you need to
> turn to make the section though...
> 
> 
> -- Clark
>            "A California Yankee in the Land of Oz"

    I had a small and gutless surf today, myself. I believe that
there are bigger waves in Bud's toilet (of course, it's a hawaiian toilet)
than I surfed today. There was supposed to be a south swell, but
there wasn't. Either it was too south to get here, or it's late.

    At least it was a chance to try one of my new boards. I ended up
getting a 18.5 inch wide, 2.25 inch thick 6'6'' squash. Basically 
a razor blade. It's so thin, when I sit on it, you can only see the
top of my head sticking above the surface.

    But it surfs pretty well. I was skip-turning around on those little
knee-knockers like a grommet on 4 twinkie's and 9 Jolt Cola's.

    I'm looking forward to using it in some head high waves.

    I also got a 6'9'' mini-gun. (crowd-control). maybe I'll try that
this weekend.

    later.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: Re: Mailing List 4 SURFING PICTURES
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:23:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.090556.6215@paradise.pegasus.com>  
bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
> 	__________________________________________________________
> 		
> 		 Surfing and (misc) Pictures Archive Server
> 	__________________________________________________________

.. and anonymous ftp access??? (for uploading _and_ downloading) :^)

Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: sgccses@citec.oz.au (Stephen Spence)
Subject: I me MR at BookWorld
Organization: CITEC
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:43:33 GMT

I went down to bookworld to have a look around and MR was there
signing for his new book.  We talked for a bit.  He seems like a 
cool dude.  Thats all.

-- 
Stephen Spence                |        I don't need your CIVAL WAR,
CITEC                         | It feeds the RICH while it buries the POOR.
Australia                     |     What's so CIVAL about WAR anyway ?
612 07 227 6969               |
sgccses@citecuc.citec.oz.au   |            - GUNS & ROSES -
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark) writes:
>Fellow surfers:  I have formulated the following questionnaire.  I will
>
 1.) Do you think equal rights for long and short boards  is generally a
 good idea?
 Yes                  [x] Unless they are hogging all the waves
 Sometimes            [ ]
 No                   [ ]
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Only at Wind-n-Sea   [ ]

 2.) Are you a pro surfer?
 Yes                  [ ]
 Sometimes            [ ]
 No                   [x] Actually I pay to surf,(Fees at State Park)
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Only when I get paid [ ]

 3.) Are you in favor of artificial reefs?
 Yes                  [ ]
 Sometimes            [ ]
 No                   [x] Definately not, It sets a bad precedent
 Haven't heard enough [ ] for messing with mother nature
 Other                [ ]

 4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
 rights and responsibilities before a good south swell hits?
 Yes                  [x] My buddy can't go this weekend, has to take
 Sometimes            [ ] care of his kids while his wife is out
 No                   [ ]
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Only in the summer   [ ]

 5.) What sex are you?
 Male                 [ ]
 Female               [ ]
 Haven't heard enough [ ]
 Other                [x]Married, it doesn't matter anymore

 6.) How old is your board?
 Under 18             [x]
 19 to 65             [ ]
 Over 65              [ ]

 7.) How many years of education have you completed?
 Grade School (rubber mat)       [ ]
 High School    (short board)    [x]
 College            (longboard)  [x]
 More               (bodyboard)  [ ]

>Thanks for you support.
>Danny
   O                                        You don't stop surfing
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833          when you grow old,
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil            you grow old
  /     David Taylor Model Basin            when you stop surfing.
   \___________________________
			     \\
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Lake Pacific(SIO)
Keywords: Just SIO
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:39:32 GMT


Boy do I need a surf.
The subject says it all for SIO and La Jolla Shores,
although there are a bunch of guys out on a peak down
by the South SIO parking lot.
The weather is great, but there just aren't any
waves here.  Oh, well.

Tod


-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
Tod Critchlow(tcritchl@ucsd.edu)      |  What the Hell is a
Univ of Calif, San Diego              |  Signature anyways??
Scripps Institution of Oceanography   | 
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:46:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.surfing

Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to this
group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.

Kingsley
From: p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing Vietnam
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:01:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: blacklabel.japan.sun.com

In article <jackson.16.718461469@cc.und.ac.za> jackson@cc.und.ac.za (Clive Jackson) writes:
>Does anyone remember the surfing scenes in Apocalypse Now? I'm curious as to 
>whether there really is any surf along the Vietnamese Coast and whether 
>there have ever been any reports on surfaris or surf spots.

Clive,

	Yes, the place is real but I can't recall the name of the beach.
	Supposidly last year some tour agent and the tourism people
	in Vietnam were trying to/did have a contest at the place.

	I know that you can buy a tour package out of Thailand
	that includes surfing.

kp
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: 10/15 -SIO to Cardiff
Keywords: Lake Pacific, but...
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:06:20 GMT


10am, Overcast, light onshore just starting  to 
pick up. Tide 6'high at 11:20am dropping to 0'low at 6:40pm. 
Small, with occaisional sets that at SIO are 21/2 to 3 foot waves.

Cardiff - the normal small stuff San Elijo on south,
but there was a wave breaking way out on that reef that is
just south of Sea Side.  

DelMar River Mouth - Nobody out, and it looked walled.

Torrey Pines - I only saw small, 1 foot waves while passing by,
but the South end of the beach looked like it might have some
longboard waves.

SIO - It's here where I have seen the sets.  There was
a really good 5 foot face that came in down by the South 
parking lot.
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_____________________________________________________________________
Tod Critchlow(tcritchl@ucsd.edu)      |  What the Hell is a
Univ of Calif, San Diego              |  Signature anyways??
Scripps Institution of Oceanography   |
From: whitwam@bnr.ca (Mark Whitwam)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Lud's .gif Files
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:53:20 GMT
Reply-To: whitwam@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <BvtvM4.B5z@scd.hp.com>, hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa) writes:
|> In article <1avou1INNv1@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:
|>  
|> > What! didn't you recocgnise me :-), 
|> > no, it's not me :-(, just some locals on a typical winter day down under :-).
|>  
|> well, maybe the rest of the group needs an impartial[tm] review of the
|> available gifs from lud... okay fine. i'll do it!
|> 
|>   -------    text deleted -----------	

Can somebody send me the .gif files.  There where only two out of the four
bells beach.gif files, and none of the others, posted up here in Canada.  I 
guess it's to cold for surfing gifs up here. :)

Thanks in advance,
Mark.

-- 

Mark Whitwam                   Internet: whitwam@bnr.ca 
Bell Northern Research         (613) 763-5799
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 8 Oct 1992 21:09:59 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu writes:
> airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:
> >
> >rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu writes:
  
  [.. flamage deleted ..]
> 
> >   So don't be surprised when a surfer takes an attack personally and
> >   wants to go out and kill sharks.  Humans are just animals and they 
> >   fight back when you fuck with them. It's a fact of life.
> 
> I`ve had 31 stitches and staples in my leg and a 7 inch scar from a 
> tiger shark
> bite 6 years ago; at least 5 or 6 man of war and jellyfish stings to leave
> permanent scars: guess what?  I still surf, but I don't hate sharks or 
> anything else in the ocean.  I realize that they live in this world too - I
> don't have to go out and kill them to show what a tough guy I am.

 [.. wanking deleted ..]

> Are you any relation to Ted BUNDY, the psychopath killer convicted recently
> of butchering so many people to death?
> 
> Get a life.
> 
> Bob.
> 

   Nobody is a psychopathic killer here, Bob. Relax a little. 
   (and put that axe down, would you? :-)).

   I'm glad you are secure and don't want to take it out on the sharks, but
   I don't blame anybody who wants to. It's natural.
   (But I do notice that you want to take it out on the people who want to
   take it out on the sharks.)

   But forget that wanking stuff and tell us the morbid details of how 
   you got chomped. Enquiring minds want to know.

Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: Cut Japan a break... & Hurricane Update: Combined
Date: 08 Oct 92 06:18:23 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Oct7.075600.10870@paradise.pegasus.com> bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
>>	AND BESIDES, this is Japan not Hawaii and we all know know
>>	that only Hawaii gets good waves. ;^)
>I want to apologize to :
I'm sorry for ripping at you Bud.  I just couldn't resist (the devil made
me do it) but it was just a chance for me to be stupidly funny.  Sorry for
some of it coming out a little aggressively.  I just never could understand
why some people call size by the backs, but that's my problem.  I guess you
can't really tell how big it is unless your out there and can see the back
so that means you were and having fun, which is the whole objective.  I just
thought it was always easier to explain size by comparison to someone riding
the wave.  But enough of that nonsense.  I dub that thread DEAD!  Aloha!


I forgot to give a little report for last weekend.  I only surfed sunday
afternoon cause I'm still not over my sickness and didn't really feel all
that well.  So anyways I made a bad call and went to Westport (shitty beach
break when it's pretty big, but always fun) and pulled another stupid one
by not bringing my 7'6".  I only took my 6'9" even though they were calling
it 7 foot.  Believe me, it really was 7 foot by any standard.  Winds side/
offshore at about 10 knots.  Could only manage to get 5 waves for the whole
3 hours that I was out.  Just couldn't get into them early enough.  One of 
my friends was out with me (one other guy but I think he just got washed in)
and he was riding a new 8 foot board that he picked up in surf shop for 
$150 in mint shape (the guy who traded it in got it in Mexico and didn't
think he would need a board that big here, sucks to be him).  He had some
great rides.  The sets were about 2 1/2 overhead from the front with some
combers on the outside a little bigger.  But I saw him get a few waves 
that looked just like the pictures I've seen of big Sunset (from the 
shoulder), he would do a big fade under the lip and then crank back into 
the pocket and another big long bottom turn and back into pocket again, and
so on.  Next time I won't forget my bigger board.  I did try a BIG floater
on the inside (lord knows what I was thinking) but of course didn't land
it by a mile, it did give me a bit of a rush when I was at the top.

surf for today and tomorrow:  

3 ft. winds east (dead offshore for most places) at 5 to 10 knots dropping 
to 5 knots east tomorrow.  Small for this time of year but I see a 
distubance out there looking like it might bring some size back.




John H. Lake 

still waiting for his 8'6" to get done.
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Florida waves?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:41:31 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, scott@edstar.ucsb.edu (Scott L. Thomas) writes:
>Probably not.  For a daily surf report from RC's (which is between Cocoa
>Beach and Melbourne) try fingering agw@foobar.mlb.semi.harris.com.  It

I just "fingered" the deal mentioned above...COOL....on line wave reports
Too bad Florida and Cocoa Beach are a 24 hr drive away.....

Hey Scott, where ya been. We have not heard from you in a long time,
I hope work hasn't been getting in the way.
   O                                        You don't stop surfing
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833          when you grow old,
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil            you grow old
  /     David Taylor Model Basin            when you stop surfing.
   \___________________________
			     \\