HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alvin@tron.gun.de (Andreas Neus)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Lazertag Sources?
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neuss, Germany
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:03:00 +0100

Hi everyone!

I've posted a mail here about a month ago, after which,
mysteriously, this newssgroup went dead silent for me...
meaning I didn't receive *any* mail from it until a few
days ago. Nets do have holes :)

So I'll try again:

We are a bunch of people who ran into Qasar in London
last summer and have since tried to obtain alike gear...
no luck. (We live in this odd place called Germany, you
know...)

So we would very much appreciate any, preferably mail-order,
source for Lazer Tag or (if that is a brand name by a
company that no longer exists, which I suspect) equivalent
equipment.

Any help, comments & suggestions *VERY* welcome
(inclusion in night's prayer guaranteed :)

P.S.: PLEASE send a copy of your reply to my e-mail address,
      since I have a hunch my server will again stop feeding
      me this newsgroup, as soon as I expect interesting mail.

"Never let an electronic device know you're depending on it!"
       -- Collary to Murphy's law

My apologies to anyone who may have answered my previous mail,
I just did't get anything.

+-------------------------+-------------------------+
|  INT: alvin@tron.gun.de |  Stop fascist Violence! |
|    Z: alvin@tron.zer    |    I'm a foreigner in   |
| FIDO: Andreas Neus      |    over 170 countries!  |
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## CrossPoint v2.1 ##
From: dude@losers.hacktic.nl (Dude)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
Subject: Seeking bungee sites in Europe
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:32:22 GMT
Organisation: losers inc.


Does anyone over here know of any bungee-sites in europe (preferably not from
a crane). I'd like to jump from a bridge or something, but it seems that there
are no fun sites in my area :-(
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Shops in UK
Keywords: Shops in UK
Date: 9 Jan 93 17:12:00 GMT
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC

In article <37915@sophia.inria.fr> duque@kurosawa.cica.fr writes:
>
>
>
>	I don't know if this article will arrive, and if there is english  
>playerswho read this news goup. 
>	If there are, i am a french player vould like to get some  
>information about the prices in UK and to have some adresses of shops who  
>could sell overseas. Since we are in 1993, the fomalities of  
>transportations (customs, etc ...) may be more simple than for the US.
>	If anybody has information about mail orders from the US to France  
>(merchandises rejected, taxes, etc...), could he post them to me or in the  
>news, i would appreciate vrey much. Thanks.
>
>			D. J .F
>mail:
>duque@kurosawa.cica.fr
>duquenno@essi.cerisi.fr
>
>


-- 
" I am from the planet Larson on the far side of the Galaxy" said the
space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: pipkinsj@cpqhou.se.hou.compaq.com (Jeff Pipkins )
Subject: Request for FAQ (please?)
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:07:37 GMT


I have been "listening" to this group for a week, and I've only seen
one article...  If this group is alive, and has a FAQ, would someone
please mail or post it?

Thanks.
Jeff=Pipkins%fw=util%sys=hou@bangate.compaq.com

Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: nathanf@shell.portal.com (Nathan Benjamin Friedman)
Subject: PMI-3 For Sale !!!!!!
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:55:57 GMT

Hello,
  My friend, who has no net access is desparate for money and is selling all of his paintball equipment.  He has a PMI-3 semi auto with tank, and 2 xtra tanks.
I believe all 7 oz. and one (or tw) may be siphon.  He loves his gun and took
great care of it; it is in very good condition.  About 7 months old.
He is also throwing in a paintball helmet and all of his misc. gear.

Gun + everything  --  $250.00

   or best offer.

It is a great deal I think; he is REALLY desparate.

		Nathan


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From: duque@kurosawa.cica.fr (Jean-Fran ois Duquennois)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Shops in UK
Keywords: Shops in UK
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:11:12 GMT
Reply-To: duque@kurosawa.cica.fr




	I don't know if this article will arrive, and if there is english  
playerswho read this news goup. 
	If there are, i am a french player vould like to get some  
information about the prices in UK and to have some adresses of shops who  
could sell overseas. Since we are in 1993, the fomalities of  
transportations (customs, etc ...) may be more simple than for the US.
	If anybody has information about mail orders from the US to France  
(merchandises rejected, taxes, etc...), could he post them to me or in the  
news, i would appreciate vrey much. Thanks.

			D. J .F
mail:
duque@kurosawa.cica.fr
duquenno@essi.cerisi.fr


Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality,alt.mythology,sci.anthropology,sci.misc,sci.psychology,soc.culture.misc,soc.history,soc.misc
From: asanders@adobe.com (Alan Sanders)
Subject: Re: Do Cultures Exhibit a Collective Personality That Changes With Time?
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:37:39 GMT

| That pattern predicted our being scrappy and ready to go to war 
| againin the early 80s.
			   -Bernie Dodge

First of all, the U.S. is not a great place to study such a question.
American culture is not only extremely young as cultures go, it is
also made up of incredibly diverse elements and is spread over an
extremely large area. America in some ways includes a number of quite
distinct regional cultures "under one roof". 

The state of California is a good example. California is not only large 
enough (and prosperous enough) to be a separate country, its population 
also looks at many things quite differently from the so-called majority. 
Every time I travel elsewhere in the U.S., I am struck by this fact upon 
my return. Most especially, I am struck by the tolerance and absence
of tradition-bound prejudice that Californians display. Of course,
this relative absence of cultural tradition is not entirely a benefit, 
but does further underscore the fundamental differences that exist
between regional cultures in the U.S.

One of the unique phenomena of our times is the control of public opinion 
by means of the popular media, most especially television. Under these 
conditions, the so-called "popular mood" says much more about the rich 
and powerful policy makers who control the media than it does about the 
population at large--although this kind of manipulation certainly comments
on the willingness of "the people" to be led. Clinton's victory over George 
"the Broccoli King" Bush shows that even sheep have their limits.

						-Alan



Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: jm@maths.tcd.ie (Justin Mason)
Subject: online MTBI tests wanted for tester program!
Keywords: mtbi, online
Organisation: Universal Media Netweb (Ireland) Inc.
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:45:34 GMT

Well, I picked up Jon Noring's repost of Stuart Reges' post of the
Keirsey Temperament Sorter MTBI test, did it, and now I'm intrigued!
(I'm an INXP, tending ever-so-slightly towards INFP, btw :). In
fact, I'm so intrigued, I now want to administer this test to all
my friends...

Unfortunately, my friends are all firmly P-tending-towards-lazy ;) ,
so they're unlikely to bother to sit down and tick things off on
a bit of paper. Being raving neophiles, though, I'm sure they'd
love it if I hacked together a quick tester program that asked then
the questions, got their answers, and gave them their graph.

However, due to the ubiquitous pressure from our local sysadmin to
cut down on disk space usage, I've deleted my online copy of the
test. Looking at the 70 questions, I have come to the decision that
utilising The Power Of The Net (tm) would be so much easier than
typing them all in from scratch, and might have the added bonus of
some other types of personality tests being passed along in addition.

So: could anyone out there mail me a copy of the Keirsey test again,
and, if there are any other interesting and accurate personality
tests online, could they pass those along, too? I'd be much obliged.

When I get the program(s) finished, I'll post it/them to alt.sources
and post a message to that effect here, so anyone who wants it/them
can get 'em. The operating system in use will be UNIX, but I'll
make them stdio-compatible so any system with a good C compiler
can handle them.
--
     "I find the law of fives to be more evident every time I look".

  Justin Mason <jm@maths.tcd.ie>  -><-  use <jm@iona.ie> for MIME mail
Xref: sparky alt.psychology.personality:381 rec.arts.startrek.current:22040
From: fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Another fun REPOST:  Star Trek Characters Personality Analysis
Date: 5 Jan 1993 15:49:13 GMT
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpfcgf.sde.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

: From: jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Joe Butt)
: Subject: Star Trek (Next Gen.) & Type
: 
: My wife and I are big ST-NG fans, and I've drawn these conclusions from
: watching:
: 
: Jean-Luke Picard -- ENTJ, as was his predecessor, James T. Kirk

Waitaminnit.  I'm no MTBI expert, but...  Jean-Luc and Jimmy (the Stud) Kirk
the SAME TYPE!?

As I perceive them, Kirk is a brash, egotistical, hot-headed, supremely 
self-confident, impulsive person.  Picard, in contrast, is non-impulsive, 
more contemplative and philosophical, much more likely to solicit (AND accept)
opinions from others, shares the workload and the glory, etc.

Can you see Kirk as a passionate student of archaeology, launching into
  long and boring discourses about the burial crypts of Tridelta Foo?
Can you see Picard as a womanizing, swashbuckling, loose cannon?

How can these utterly dissimilar people be the same type?
Assuming they are, how is one supposed to make use of a person's type info
to make informed decisions about how best to interact with them?  
I would interact with Kirk and Picard in VERY different ways...

Gary
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality,alt.mythology,sci.anthropology,sci.misc,sci.psychology,soc.culture.misc,soc.history,soc.misc
From: ogil@quads.uchicago.edu (Brian W. Ogilvie)
Subject: Re: Do Cultures Exhibit a Collective Personality That Changes With Time?
Followup-To: soc.history
Reply-To: ogil@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Morris Fishbein Center for the History of Science and Medicine
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:10:00 GMT

Followups to soc.history only; this amount of crossposting is
ridiculous...

In article <1993Jan7.012814.27456@samba.oit.unc.edu> Suzanne-lucia.Demitrio@launchpad.unc.edu (Suzanne-lucia Demitrio) writes:

>Robert Danton takes up this idea interestingly -- albeit briefly -- in the
>first chapter of *The Great Cat Massacre* (early modern French social
>history).  He compares versions of the same fairytales as collected in
>different cultures, and posits a notion of cultural style.

The French historians and folklorists I've talked to criticize Darnton
for taking an essentialist position, refusing to recognize the great
number of versions of _any_ fairy-story in a given culture (for a
wonderful example, read the collection of _Italian Folktales_ by Italo
Calvino and note how often similar elements crop up in otherwise
different stories). Darnton, as I recall, takes only a few stories and
compares only one version of each from each "culture."

>A good, fun book.

Certainly a fun book, and well-written. My estimation of its quality
has been decreasing the more I have learned about early modern popular
culture, however. Interestingly, a friend here in the history
department told me that someone had pursued the Cat Massacre story a
bit further in the archives and found that the journeymen who
slaughtered their master's wife's cat were eventually brought to
justice and punished; their triumph may have been sweet, but it was
short. If anyone is interested, I can ask my friend for references.

-- 
Brian W. Ogilvie           DISCLAIMER: You think I have time to
b-ogilvie@uchicago.edu       think about everything I post?
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: The Blizzard of Reposts Comes to an End.  Finally!
Summary: Sorry to put the veterans through this, but I felt (F) it was necessary.
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:29:40 GMT

The plethora, the gaggle, the googol, the oleo of reposts is finally over!
I apologize to the veterans of this newsgroup for putting up with a rehash
of subjects you've read and discussed before.  However, there are quite a few
'newbies' to this group, so to keep discussion flowing, it's important to
acquaint them with what this group has posted the last few months.  Is what
I did characteristic of an INFJ?  :^)

Have a good day.

Jon Noring


-- 

Charter Member of the INFJ Club.

Now, if you're just dying to know what INFJ stands for, be brave, e-mail me,
and I'll send you some information.  It WILL be worth the inquiry, I think.

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Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Do Cultures Exhibit a Collective Personality That Changes With Time?
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:26:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.011653.14380@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>Is it possible for cultures to exhibit an overall 'personality', somewhat
>akin to individual human personalities, and that these cultural
>'personalities' can dynamically and dramatically change over time?  For
			.
			.
			.
>Anyway, this is highly speculative, but interesting to discuss.  Maybe
>we can develop a 'test', analogous to the Myers-Briggs test, to determine
>the overall personality of any given culture.  From this, the correlation
>to historical events and the effect of that culture on the rest of the world
>would be an interesting study.  Who knows?  This may form the basis for an
>interesting Ph.D. thesis.  I wonder what personality my ancestors the Vikings
			.
			.
			.
A point discussed recently in sci.anthropology would
be necessary to complete a research program of the
sort you describe:  recognition of the difference
and tension between the behaviors and beliefs a
culture prescribes as ideal, and those realized in
daily life by its members.  This dimension has its
own dynamic with the variables of culture and person-
ality.

Please understand:  I'm not myself a melancholic,
trying merely to dominate you by picking a nit about
one minor implicit assumption.  I suggest that the
"culture test" you've proposed will be more success-
ful scientifically if its author has a clear
conception of whether he or she is testing the pre-
scriptive, or experiental, culture (or perhaps both).
-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: drabe@uunet!tellab5!odgate (Daniel Rabe)
Subject: Myers-Briggs questions
Organization: Odesta Systems Corporation, Northbrook IL.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:12:18 GMT


Is this an appropriate place to discuss the Myers-Briggs type
indicator?  I have some questions that maybe someone out there
can answer.  I read a book called "Please Understand Me" (Keirsey
and Bates), which included a short self-test to help readers
determine what "type" they are.  When I did this about a year ago,
I came out as an INXJ (probably slightly closer to INTJ).  I did
this again recently, and came out closer to an INFP!
How accurate is this type of personality test?
How can I arrange to take the real Myers-Briggs test?
How common is it for one's type to change over time?
A specific question on J vs P: if a person tends to plan everything
out and leave nothing to chance (J-behavior), but years for the
spontaneous and free, i.e. to be more P-like, would you consider
this person more a J or a P?
Thanks!
--daniel rabe

Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: mmh0m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Marina Margaret Heiss)
Subject: Re: Friendship and personality
Followup-To: mmh0m@poe.acc.virginia.edu 
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: alt.psychology.personality 
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:40:40 GMT

In article <43140@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> mark@kraken.ucsd.edu (Mark Anderson) writes:
>In article <C0G8K3.92r@utdallas.edu> bcollins@utdallas.edu (ARLIN B COLLINS) writes:
>>   I am an ISTJ ...   With strong N's, I feel like
>>   I am trying to play 20 questions to communicate with them,
>>   I regard myself as a very direct communicator, no prejudice,
>>   emotion or opinions...  "just the facts",  the  N's are always
>>   reading emotions and feelings into my words that ARE NOT THERE!,
>>   and when they speak to me, they are so vague that I get tired of
>>   trying to figger out if they are  "for it"  or  "agin' it"...
>>
>
>The traits you are describing I would group as
>(T vs. F) and (J vs. P) conflicts rather than (S vs. N).
>
>mark

I think that all of the MBTI functions referred to above affect the issue
of vagueness in communication, but it seems to me that what lies behind
some S's frustration with N's comes from the fact that N's, because
they're by  definition more interested in ideas than facts, tend to be 
speculative in the way they express themselves rather than terse and to
the point (as a fact-oriented S would).  I think this is more true of NP's
than NJ's, however.


Marina Heiss (INTJ)
mmh0m@poe.acc.virginia
  
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality,alt.mythology,sci.anthropology,sci.misc,sci.psychology,soc.culture.misc,soc.history,soc.misc
From: Bernie Dodge <bdodge@ucselx.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Do Cultures Exhibit a Collective Personality That Changes With Time?
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 13: 42:31 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:42:29 GMT

There was some work related to this done in the '70s, I think, by 
David McClelland. He content-analyzed popular children's stories, 
books, and hymns over the life of the United States and pulled out 
estimates of our collected needs for Power, Achievement and 
Affiliation.  Each of these things ebbed and flowed over time, and
there was a particular pattern of these things that predicted
12 of the 13 wars Americans had fought up to that time.

That pattern predicted our being scrappy and ready to go to war again
in the early 80s.   I remember that this prediction seemed pretty
outlandish when I read it in the post-Vietnam era.  We didn't actually
go to war on schedule, but the mood was certainly ripe at times for
us to give Iran a good groin-kick.  And there was plenty of support for
our micro-wars in Panama, Lebanon, Libya and Grenada.

I don't remember what collective mood we're supposed to be in now, 
but you can map the n-Ach, n-Pow, and n-Aff constructs onto the MBTI
perhaps as follows:

n-Aff ---> Feeling
n-Pow ---> Extraversion, or perhaps Extraverted Judging
n-Ach ---> Judgment

The above is strictly an off the top of my head hunch.  Don't know what
empirical work has been done correlating the two sets of constructs.

For more info on McClelland's work, see...

McClelland, D. C. (1975).  Power: The inner experience.  New York:
Halsted Press.

ISBN 0-470-58169-7.  HM 136 M13.

I'd be curious to hear from others of any follow-up work done in this
area.
-------------------------------------------------------
bdodge@ucselx.sdsu.edu
Bernie Dodge, Ed Tech Dept, San Diego State University
-------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality,rec.arts.startrek.current
From: dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl)
Subject: Re: Another fun REPOST:  Star Trek Characters Personality Analysis
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:55:16 GMT

In article <1icalpINNs68@hpfcbig.sde.hp.com> fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz) writes:
>: From: jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Joe Butt)
>: Subject: Star Trek (Next Gen.) & Type
>: 
>: My wife and I are big ST-NG fans, and I've drawn these conclusions from
>: watching:
>: 
>: Jean-Luke Picard -- ENTJ, as was his predecessor, James T. Kirk
>
>Waitaminnit.  I'm no MTBI expert, but...  Jean-Luc and Jimmy (the Stud) Kirk
>the SAME TYPE!?

Agreed. I definitely agree that Kirk is an ENTJ (although he could be an ENFJ),
but I don't think that fits Picard's personality. I'd say Picard is an INTJ.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: mmh0m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Marina Margaret Heiss)
Subject: _The_Type_Reporter_ newsletter info
Followup-To: alt.psychology.personality 
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: alt.psychology.personality
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:04:07 GMT

Since I've had several requests, I'm posting the address information for the
_Type_Reporter_ MBTI newsletter:
 
      _The_Type_Reporter_
      Editor:  Susan Scanlon 
      524 North Paxton Street
      Alexandria, VA  22304
      (703)823-3730

It comes out roughly 8 times a year, and costs $16 for a year's subscription;
I've found it worth the money.  Recent topics include "Mistakes When Teaching
Type", "Spending and Saving", and "Making Love".  


Marina Heiss (INTJ)
mmh0m@poe.acc.virginia.edu
From: humphrey@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Jeff Humphrey [Jeffus])
Subject: Re: online MTBI tests wanted for tester program!
Keywords: mtbi, online
Organization: Computer Security, Naval Research Lab
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:05:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.004534.22646@maths.tcd.ie> jm@maths.tcd.ie (Justin Mason) writes:
>Well, I picked up Jon Noring's repost of Stuart Reges' post of the
>Keirsey Temperament Sorter MTBI test, did it, and now I'm intrigued!
>(I'm an INXP, tending ever-so-slightly towards INFP, btw :). In
>fact, I'm so intrigued, I now want to administer this test to all
>my friends...
[Stuff Deleted]
>However, due to the ubiquitous pressure from our local sysadmin to
>cut down on disk space usage
[Stuff Deleted]

  The X-Window'd version of the test (xmbti) is still available to
  the inet via anonymous ftp at (hightop.nrl.navy.mil) in the file
  (/nrl/xmbti.tar.Z)

  Jeff Humphrey (humphrey@hightop.nrl.navy.mil)

  PS ... it's only 14Kb    ;)

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