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From: jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham)
Subject: Re: Bicycle riders
Organization: Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Birmingham, England
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:48:33 GMT

In article <Bxz2s1.3sE@exnet.co.uk> s0rah@exnet.co.uk (R A Hollands) writes:


>   Of late it seems to me that people on bikes have started to believe
>   they're pedestrians.  They ride past me on the pavement and they don't
>   have lights at night.

>   It must be months since I saw a bicycle at night with lights.  Is this
>   anyone else's experience?

>   I think *I'm* a pedestrian but then I haven't got a bike.

 
It is too dangerous for cyclists to ride on roads without bus lanes.
So cyclists ride on the pavement and make the pavements dangerous for
pedestrians. Another example of the way that cars are becoming the
only form of transport for the vast majority.

The number of cars on our roads is continously increasing. Anyone got
any ideas on what to do with them all?



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John Callingham                                         (jc@fulcrum.co.uk)

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From: idf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: humor in England
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:51:19 GMT
	<1992Nov20.130835.28799@cs.nott.ac.uk>
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham


 On 20 Nov 92, Neil Cook wrote

> Anywhere else have this weird behaviour? What's the hottest curry YOU've ever
> had? Answers on a postcard to uk.misc...

 Bristol Road (outside the Uni) have always been rumoured to offer a
Phal (sp?), not for the fainthearted...

 You usually hear of how so and so spent a couple of years on hotter
and hotter vindaloo's before making the break.

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Cheers,

	Ian

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Univ. of Birmingham, UK, B15 2TT
From: tpennick@axion.bt.co.uk (Tim Pennick)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:04:27 GMT
Reply-To: tpennick@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <3207@ucl-cs.uucp>, by G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly):
> Nick Chapman writes:
>  > 
>  > A question that been bothering me for a while...
>  > 
>  >     Why do some charity organisations collect used postage stamps?
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  > Nick.
>  > -- 
>  > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  > Nick Chapman, GEC-Marconi Research Centre | INTERNET: nic@uk.co.gec-mrc
>  > Great Baddow, Chelmsford, Essex. CM2 8HN  | Tel: +44 245 73331 x3245
>  > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> And do the "Guide Dogs For The Blind" still collect milk bottle tops?
> 
> I believe that they have more trained dogs than they can use, and much
> spare cash (the largest liquid assets of a UK charity?)
> 

The answer to the first question is yes, the Guide Dog Assoc. does still
collect milk bottle tops, and stamps.

As a guide dog owner, my answer to the second point is my personal
understanding of what has given rise to the current feeling that the
association has more money than it knows what to do with.  I do not claim to
speak on behalf of the association.

As I understand it, a press release was produced in the recent National
Guide dog Week, which was meant to bring peoples attention to the fact that
there are still a lot of blind people in the UK who do not realise that they
are eligible for a guide dog.  The whole point of the publicity was to
contact these people, so that if they should wish, they could put their
names on the current waiting list and be interviewed to assess their
potential as a guide dog owner.  The cost of training dogs is obviously very
high, and in addition to its dog training activities, the GDBA also fulfills
a rehabilitaion and general mobility training role.  It also runs an
adventure group which provides opportunities for blind people to try
activities such as sailing, skiing, driving etc, which they don't often have
a chance to have a go at.  The GDBA has a massive fund-raising
infra-structure, and a lot of people give up a lot of time to raise the
neccessary money.  If they didn't, then people would simply not be able to
afford to have a guide dog.

Tim Pennick
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk ("Malcolm S. Muir")
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Muir
Reply-To: malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:26:48 +0000


In article <BxtIyL.LG2@cck.coventry.ac.uk> gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk writes:

>In article <6434@sersun1.essex.ac.uk> peter@serv2.essex.ac.uk (Peter Allott)
> writes:
>>Will there be a 29 Feb 2000?
>>
>>The cal program thinks so!
>
>Your cal program has it right. Think. This year's a leap year. So's 1996.
>Therefore, so's 2000. If I'm utterly blind to the way our adopted calendar
>has worked for centuries, then please correct me.

Ahha but 1896 was a leap yeat 1900 was *not*

If a year is divisable by 100, it is only a leap year if it is divisable
by 400.

Next argument - I say the first year of the 21st. century is 2001, not 2000
which is the last year of the 20th. century.


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From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: Coventry vs. London/etc (was Re: humor in England)
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:00:43 GMT

James W Bottomley (apj003@cck.coventry.ac.uk) wrote:
: 
: Well it works pretty well in places. I suppose the comparison with Coventry
: is something like Birmingham with the tight curvy inner ring road with
: thousands of half-crazed drivers hurtling around it with total precision
: weaving around newcomers wetting themselves with fear...

But in Brum we have 3 ring roads for people to choose from :-)
: 
: Should this discussion continue as `Road systems in different towns' ?
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Subtle (i.e. obscure) cigarette adverts
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:49:19 GMT

In article <BxyrLG.5w9@cck.coventry.ac.uk> gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre) writes:
>
>It's weird. No one says "Smoke
>these because they relax you and taste quite nice" anymore. 

That's because it's illegal.

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Computer Laboratory                | Fax: +44 (0)223 334678
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street  | JANET: Guy.Barry@uk.ac.cam.cl 
Cambridge CB2 3QG, England, UK     | Internet: Guy.Barry@cl.cam.ac.uk 
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: csc280@cent1.lancs.ac.uk (I S Brandon Esq)
Subject: Newsgroup filtering in the U.K.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 20:27:26 GMT
X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA19418; Sun, 22 Nov 92 12:28:10 -0800
X-Received: by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA27191; Sun, 22 Nov 92 12:28:08 -0800
X-Via: uk.ac.lancaster.central1; Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:27:23 +0000
X-To: uk.misc.usenet
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.010 PL11]

I apologies if I might be asking a rather obvious question but...

As I understand it certain newsgroups get filtered out before we
get them in the UK.  I admit that I tend to not agree with 
censorship anyway, and can just about understand why alt.sex.* groups
get filtered out, but there are some that are filtered out unfairly!

Does anyone know who is responsible for deciding which groups get
filtered out, and how I could contact them.

Although I can read these newsgroups via a publics access machine in
the states, the lack of -general- access to a certain newsgroup in UK
(for the moment I'd like to keep this to myself for personal reasons)
is seriously hindering my contact with a certain 'sect' of people in
the UK - which in turn is likely effect my future life/happiness rather
severly. :-(

Love 'n' Hugs,
    Ian XXX (E-Mail=csc280@lancaster.ac.uk)
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Pavements (should that be footpaths?)
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:03:27 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <JC.92Nov19092339@mr-potter-t-crosser-i-dotter.fulcrum.co.uk>, jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham) writes:
> Does anyone know the definition of a pavement (the legal one, not the
> dictionary one). I ask because I was nearly run over this morning by a
> car crossing the pavement from a drop kerb to enter a drive. I thought
> I was still on the pavement, but the driver seemed to think that he
> had priority because he was still on the road.

This won't do you much good if you get hit by a car, but the highway code
(which of course isn't law, but nearly is) states, quite rightly, that drivers
of vehicles shouldn't run people over. I tend to read this as pedestrians have
right of way on just about any road, except a motorway, since it's illegal
to wander down the hard shoulder of a motorway, unless your vehicle is broken.

Of course, just believing this isn't enough if someone runs you over. Mind
you doesn't stop me standing in the middle of a busy road with traffic wizzing
either side. People don't really want to end up having killed or injured
anyone, regardless of what they believe.

Summary. I think you were in the right.

If you deliberately stepped off the footpath infront of a car (at close range)
then you are in the wrong.

Just one snail's opinion.
-- 
snail@lsl.co.uk      

"para-phrasing an American's .sig"....
For the record, I did not vote for Bill Clinton
:-)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham)
Subject: Gas inspection cover
Organization: Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Birmingham, England
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:55:44 GMT

The inspection cover to my gas meter is on the outside of my house and
has recently come off. British Gas have said that they will charge me
to repair it. Is this reasonable given that;-
1. The cover appears to be the property of BG as it has their name on
it.
2. I do not have a key to the cover.
3. The cover has only ever been opened by BG employees.
4. The cover is protecting BG equipment, i.e the meter.

--
John Callingham                                         (jc@fulcrum.co.uk)

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From: d_smith@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Dylan Smith)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Bicycle riders
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:32:48 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <11062@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> dmarsh@cs.strath.ac.uk (David R Marsh CS91) writes:

>enhance their performance. But seriously: lots of traffic calming, huge 
>parking fees, car bans from city centres, removal of company car perks,  
>massive investment in good quality public transport (especially rail and LRT),
>huge petrol taxes etc. (Go on, flame me!)

Why flame you? Good idea as far as I can see, especially public transport
and city-centre car bans (I never drive into Bristol city centre, it's
cheaper to go by bus. The bus fare is lower than the cost to park without
even considering the petrol cost)
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             d_smith@uwe.csd |                 d_smith@csd.uwe.ac.uk
From: pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk (Philippa Hogben)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Cobblers
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:25:08 GMT
Reply-To: pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk
Distribution: uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Does anybody know of a cobbler in or near Cambridge who will mend a pair of
shoes (rather than just reheel or resole them)? I have a pair of dancing shoes
made out of soft leather. There is a seam down the back which has come apart
(I can't tell whether the leather has actually torn or whether it has just come
away from the stitches) and I have been told that it will require a leather patch
to hold the two sides of the seam together but the person who told me this couldn't
do it.

Many thanks in advance to anybody who can help me on this matter.

Philippa

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Any mistakes are mine, all mnie.

I am not a .sig virus. I am a free bug.
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Satellite Dishes
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 13:53:46 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

In article <144.721411139.kbss.bt.co.uk> johnb@kbss.bt.co.uk (John Bayle)
writes:
> p.s. I once used a 60cm dish balanced on a dining room table pointing out
> the window. Even with perfect alignment, the picture was awful.

My parents have a satellite dish.  No matter how I align myself to the
screen, the programmes are all crap.  I did discover, however, that
interposing a book between my face and the TV screen improved the quality
remarkably.


mathew
-- 
Civilization is just a temporary failure of entropy.

Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: igb@fulcrum.co.uk (Ian G Batten)
Subject: Re: Subtle (i.e. obscure) cigarette adverts
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:52:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.124432.1544@dct.ac.uk> ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) writes:
> I know I'm just terminally stupid but it took me years to work out the
> chainsaw/fabric ad - Silk Cut (geddit).

One of the great things that Lodge has done is managing to get a good
distinction between metaphor and metonym --- as revealed with Silk Cut
and Marlboro adverts --- on to prime-time TV.

Hey!  Tim!  I didn't mention Fourth Avenue!

ian
From: ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher "Jd" Samuel)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.net
Subject: Re: new groups, how?
Date: 22 Nov 92 15:57:16 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Wales - Aberystwyth - Prifysgol Cymru

In article <1992Nov18.144835.1499@dct.ac.uk>,
 ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig) doodled:

>In article <IDF.92Nov12172655@fat-controller.cs.bham.ac.uk>,
>   idf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet) writes:

>> Hi,
>> 
>> 	With the new uk.bcs.* groups I am wondering what happened to
>> the old procedure of having a month of voting etc etc.  This also
>
>Well if anyone would care to explain exactly how this voting procedure
>works in the uk domain... It was discussed in uk.net and nobody pointed
>out any pre-existing procedure. In the control message creating the
>groups I apologized if I'd bypassed anyone and still nobody pointed out
>any 'protocol' violation. I did try... 

The last large discussion for a new UK group that I remember was for
uk.telecom, and that was just a discussion which resulted in Ian Harding
at UKC (or UKNet or GBNet or whatever it was back then) issuing the
newgroup.  I vaguely remember that he was also responsible for removing
the UK york-box group as well. 

That's about all the procedure I remember.. :-)

>One thing I was *not* going to do was to have a worldwide vote in
>news.something with the same voting figures needed as for a worldwide
>group.

Dave L. wouldn't have accepted the RFC at a guess, and would have said
to sort it out locally. 

Cheers,
Chris

-- 
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: AUSBROOK@ucs.indiana.edu (Entropy Warrior)
X-To: PO%"uk-misc@demon.co.uk"
Subject: Address request
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:40:01 +0000

Could anyone help me with the address of

Anna Praschma
Newnham College
Cambridge University

?

Many thanks,

Michael K. Ausbrook
ausbrook@ucs.indiana.edu
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: humor in England
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:26:15 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

> >><<                                                 All this from a bloke
> >><< who's moved to a dump like Coventry

> >It can't be worse than central London!

> Coventry may be a dump, but at least it's a small dump.

England is a dump.


mathew

Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Subject: Those league tables
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:10:56 GMT

The copy in my Grauniad of yesterday listed 5 Cambridgeshire schools
called "The Village College" (they simply omitted the name of the
village, which is part of the address).

While I wasn't actually expecting much enlightenment from these
curious "statistics", I would love to know whether this was just a
Guradina-ism, or whether the DES-published list makes the same
boo-boo.  And no, I'm not going to encourage them by asking for a copy
for myself...
--
Robin (come back John Drummond) Fairbairns       rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge  CB2 3QG, UK
"They had twelve years to lay in wait for us" - Bush supporter on Nov 4
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: csg189@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Paranoid !!!)
Subject: Re: humor in England 
Keywords: Just testing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Calling From Somewhere In Time !!!
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:50:54 GMT

In article <BxwwF7.735@cck.coventry.ac.uk> sba@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Blade) writes:
>Just testing please ignore!!!!
>
>

Looks like a waste of bandwidth ...

					- Paranoid !!!
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup filtering in the U.K. 
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:33:40 GMT

cms@home.demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) writes:

>	Demon Internet (as well as PIPEX and Ibmpcug) carry a "full"
>newsfeed (4000 + groups).  Our members can currently nntp any of them
>from news.demon.co.uk.
>		Regards,
>			Cliff.

FYI, the count is now over 5000, of which about 3800 have postings
which actually reach our shores. Such is the amorphous nature of the
Usenet that it isn't really possible to say if there are postings
anywhere. Inactive groups include alt.fan.wal-greenslade and
can.sun-stroke.

Ian
(news@pipex.net)
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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:57:09 GMT

In article <CC.92Nov19092817@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>
>I'm sure people will soon start saying "Twenty One" for 2001, and so on.
>Much easier, if a wee bit ambiguous.

Completely ambiguous!  "Twenty one" is short for 1921 or 2021 -- it can't
be used for 2001 as well.  (And "Twenty One -- A Space Odyssey" just
doesn't have the right ring to it...)

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Cambridge CB2 3QG, England, UK     | Internet: Guy.Barry@cl.cam.ac.uk
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Need pointers on internet connectivity in the UK
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:59:29 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1ek4vfINN9tb@agate.berkeley.edu>, sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell) writes:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm going to moving to the UK to take a job at University of Sussex, and I  
> have some basic questions about the net.  Pardon me if this is not the  
> best place to ask these questions, please give me a tip where I should  
> post.
> 
> I gather that sites with direct connections to the internet are fairly few  
> and far between in the UK, and that most sites interface to the net via  
> something called Janet.  Does Janet have features like ftp and telnet, for  
> file grabbing and remote logging in, respectively.

JANET is an X25 network. As such it supports X29 terminal access and
additionally supports FTP and other protocols layered over X25. All
JANET sites now have the option of joining the Internet via IP tunnelling
over JANET. This network being known as JIPS (JANET IP Service I think).

Even for sites which still do not take JIPS, JANET/Internet gateways
exist allowing access to Internet File transfer and Telnet.
-- 
Alan Greig                            Janet: Alan@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
Dundee Institute of Technology	   Internet: Alan@DCT.AC.UK
Tel: (0382) 308810                 Int: +44 382 308810
              -- There is only one true conspiracy --
From: pwa@ioe.ac.uk (Peter Wangermann)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Bicycle riders
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:27:26 GMT
Reply-To: pwa@ioe.ac.uk (Peter Wangermann)
Organization: Institute of Education, University of London

In article <JC.92Nov20094833@mr-potter-t-crosser-i-dotter.fulcrum.co.uk> jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham) writes:

>It is too dangerous for cyclists to ride on roads without bus lanes.

It is even more dangerous for cyclists to use roads with bus lanes, as
I have discovered the hard way. The problem is that the law-abiding 
motorists (the majority) leave a great chunk of road free for the
law-breaking motorists to use. These people seem to think that they 
are free to break all speed limits and run over any cyclists who happen
to be in their way. 

>So cyclists ride on the pavement and make the pavements dangerous for
>pedestrians. Another example of the way that cars are becoming the
>only form of transport for the vast majority.

Which is why we need proper bicycle lanes for these mid-speed vehicles.
 
>--
>John Callingham                                         (jc@fulcrum.co.uk)
>
 
Pete.
Newsgroups: uk.misc