HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter Yung Chang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:17:56 GMT
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.startrek.current: 26-Jul-92 Re: Star Trek
VI: The Undis.. by Dave Learn@lafcol.lafaye 
> Lasers have no mass--phasers are phased matter and energy, and have been
> shown to exert a physical force.  See ST3:TSFS, where Kirk fires a phaser
> at a Klingon on Genesis.  The Klingon is thrown back against a tree and
> presumably dies on impact or in the air.  But the phaser blast threw him a
> good distance.

I can't believe everyone on this net is discussing the physics behind
this!  Has everyone gone bonkers?  Doesn't anyone understand that this
is a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE?!!!  We see people get thrown back just about
everytime someone gets shot!  It's called EXAGGERATION for entertainment
purposes!  Why does everyone insist on treating movies as if they were
real life, that every aspect has to be realistic?  Sheesh!

>      Even if phasers did not exert a mass, there is another perfectly good

Careful...you're walking into a minefield here.  Mass is not exerted. 
Force is.  You do not feel that "mass" of something, you feel the
"weight" or "force" of it.


					
					peech

Peter Chang
Economics/Industrial Management
Carnegie Mellon University
<pc20+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: Question about "The Loss" (Possible spoilers)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:06:57 GMT

>he calls her "Imzadi".  Now, I've seen a lot about "_Imzadi_" lately, but 

>book.  Without giving away too much of the plot to the novel, can someone 
>tell me what this term means?  Is it a term of affection?

In "Haven" during the first season when they were in the holodeck together
Deanna asked Riker if she was still his beloved, his "Imzadi!"  I haven't
read  the book, but that is what the term means,  hope this helps.

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we shift down then kick hard       | (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu) 
into warp 9, yaa, come back        | What would we all do without Trek? 
fighten--WHOO WHEE!!               | 
                                   |  I Co-Moderate StarBase Express 
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From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: How old is the net? (Was: Re: Another temporary farewell...)
Keywords: th-th-th-th-that's all, folks...
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:49:47 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Jul21.012159.1406@cbfsb.cb.att.com> forbes@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Scott Forbes) writes:
>ns@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Nancy M. Schnepp) writes:
>>How long has the net itself been around?

>That's kind of a trick question:  Which "net" are you referring to? 
>Internet in its current form is a network of networks, with everything from
>Fidonet to BITNET to the original Defense Department ARPAnet tied together
>into one massive hodge-podge of computers and telephone cables.  (The real
>answer is probably about 1974; "the net" pretty much dates itself to the
>creation of ARPAnet, whenever that was.  If you're really curious, post a
>question over on alt.folklore.computers.)

Well, as I understand it, this isn't *quite* accurate.  I believe that the
ARPAnet, the predecessor of the Internet (sort of), was created AROUND 1968
or so.  USENET's news software was first used (as I mentioned earlier) around
1978/79.

The Internet does *not* consist of Fidonet and Bitnet, or any UUCP sites.
I think that by definition dialup sites are not part of the Internet, and
Bitnet uses different communication protocols.  Internet nowadays consists
(I think) of the old ARPAnet and CSnet (if any parts of CSnet are still
active), but has been pretty much completely revised in the last decade.

USENET consists of (as far as I can tell) all sites which have a newsfeed,
which includes many sites on the Internet, UUCPnet, Fidonet and Bitnet, but
does not include many others.

However (also as far as I can tell), you will probably get different answers
to this question depending on who you ask. :-)

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"Can this world not do better than you for a champion?"
"Probably.  I just do the best I can."
					- The Brigadier
					  Doctor Who, "Battlefield"
					  [Probably misquoted]
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Missing endings for STVI???
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:35:56 GMT
Distribution: canada,usa
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Jul26.031358.47855@chili.cc.lehigh.edu>, learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
> In article <1992Jul25.224400.5116@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, p5ku@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (BAMFORD) writes:
>> 
> As I understood, up until near the end of filming, Kirk died a hero's 
> death in saving the Federation president from the Klingon assassin.  If
> you watch the sequence closely, Kirk even gets hit by the phaser shot as
> he throws the pres. to the ground.  Too bad--as much as I like Kirk, I
> think the movie would have been improved by his death.
> 

AMEN!

Kellie Matthews-Simmons
Internet: Matthews_K@cubldr.colorado.edu
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Minuet
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:56:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Jul21.215235.19489@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> ogden_jon@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.151632.16686@crash.cts.com> rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com
>(System Administrator) writes:
>>How many episodes did Carolyn McCormack appear in as Minuet?
>>
>I believe there were two episodes.  One was the one where she was created on
>the holodeck, the other had something to do with her being brought out of
>Riker's memory.  I might be mistaken, but I think it was something like that.
>
You're correct. The first was with the Binars (100101010...); the second
was "Future Imperfect", where Riker thinks he's in the future but its
really just a cute little alien who's lonely.


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Star Trek, Deep Space Nine, and other Gifs  
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:12:42 GMT

I hope that I am doing this right, I am still working out the bugs with 
rn and vi, it sure is different than DOS and Windows...

Anyway, I am writing because I am looking for Star Trek: TNG gifs, but
especially the NEW stuff with Deep Space Nine.  Someone mentioned a gif
that was the logo (or at lease PROPOSED logo).  Does anyone know of any
good anonymous p size or any other location for such files.  I looked in
alt.binaries.pictures.misc. but there were no new ones and I just learned 
how to UUDECODE them.  Let me know please....

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we shift down then kick hard        |
into warp 9, Ya, come back          |
fighten'-- WOOO WHEEE"              |
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: A Star Trek Timeline (part 2 of 2)
Summary: Praise to the Author 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:48:06 GMT

I want to thank you for your excellent post.  I especially like the fact
that you sited you information, something so few people out here on the 
nets do.  I co-moderate a BBS and am starting a large collection of 
Sci-Fi information there, this will be an EXCELLENT addition.  Thanks
Again for your creation!!

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"Yaa, I see where your goin';      | Eric Jeffery   
we shift down then kick hard       | (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu) 
into warp 9, yaa, come back        | What would we all do without Trek? 
fighten--WHOO WHEE!!               | 
                                   |  I Co-Moderate StarBase Express 
-- Geodi "The Last Outpost"        | in Denver, Co (303)450-2454 HOME of 
                                   | ST:TNG, DSN, and B5 Gifs and Data!! 

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From: rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: The Name Game
    <1992Jul24.141344.9379@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:45:15 GMT
Distribution: na

In <1992Jul24.141344.9379@ryn.mro4.dec.com> babin@ifthen.enet.dec.com (Ken Babin) writes:



>In <1992Jul23.210257.7390@chili.cc.lehigh.edu>
>usenet@chili.cc.lehigh.edu writes:

>>1. Nyota Uhuru (or Uhura, depending on the transliteration) is Swahili for
>>"Star Freedom."

>I don't know Swahili, but since a long voyage thru space (where no man has gone before) could be considered the ultimate freedom (really get away from it all),
>could her name also perhaps be translated "Star Trek"? I maybe be stretching
>things a bit, but it would be neat.

   Uhura (or Uhuru, if you prefer) does not mean "Star Freedom", it means
simply "freedom".  And I don't think there is any chance that her name
means "Star Trek"....  ;-)

RC Carman

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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Mange Moi! (was: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek...)
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:37:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i can't believe i'm replying to this, but...

In article <Bs7u3C.9MJ@ecf.toronto.edu>, ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice) writes...
> 
>How about "mange moi" then. I'm underthe assumption that most americans
>know nothing about french so this should get by.
> 
>Matthew

i think enough americans have a combined knowledge enough of spanish and 
french and possibly even italian to know what "mange moi" means. (they are 
very similar, these romance languages!)

and whatever you do, don't assume something as absurd as "most americans know 
nothing about..." because you will only serve to get yourself flamed.

:)
back to our regularly scheduled Trek flame fest.

sandra guzdek  +  username: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu  +  til 21 Aug 1992
    "All that remains is the possibility of communication." -- J-L Picard
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: vincent@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong)
Subject: Re: Star Trek/Prisoner
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 18:41:57 EDT

You want a Star Trek/Prisoner crossover?  Okay try this one for size:

Both series have an episode entitled "Schizoid Man."

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From: 751kaiser@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Starship datasets
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:03:06 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


Hello trekdom....

i'm looking for a dataset of any ST:TNG spaceships for use with a 
graphics modeler.

I'm looking for raw data points if possible

thanks

matthew							galileo
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Name Game
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:17:59 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

theresa@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (Theresa Vaughan) writes:

>In article <1992Jul23.001316.19935@beaver.cs.washington.edu> jdcurtis@cs.washington.edu (Janet Denise Curtis) writes:
>>I think "picard" refers to a province in France.
>>
>>
>   As in Picardie? Interesting idea. Anybody know where they got
>Spock from? Or for that matter, the other TOS character names?

What about Dr. Spock the child psychologist?

Chekov no doubt from Chehkov (or however the russians spell it) - their
famous author/playright (?)

Scotty coz he is scottish no doubt

any others?

-richard

-- 
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Systems Administrator (unpaid - gasp!) | Student, RMIT. Shostakovich Freak!!
mail: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU     - ram@lionet.wesley.OZ.AU
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Subject: Re: Books to Be Adapted (Was: Imzadi is the greatest thing since sliced bread!)
Keywords: Imzadi, Vendetta, Q-In-Law, movie
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:22:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.034017.13102@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.231228.23155@gagme.chi.il.us> jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be) writes:
>>> [...my original post about _Vendetta_ as first TNG movie deleted...]
>>
>>Yes, this would be an excellent choice for a movie.  In addition, it provides
>>one of the better uses of the Ferengi I've seen/read to date, and the special
>>effects budget required for this one might be a wee bit too big for a standard
>>episode.
>
>   I used to be a BIG advocate of making Vendetta into a movie, but it would
>now cause major continuity problems.  The episode "I Borg" has set up the
>Borg to likely become a much more benevolent race, and were Vendetta to be 
>made now, everybody would be asking about what the hell happened to the
>changes that would have to happen from the induction of Hugh back into the
>Borg collective.  It looks like we will now have to find other ideas for a
>first TNG movie.  

Not necessarily.  The crew in ``I, Borg'' was never really sure what
would become of Hugh's humanity back in the Borg collective.  One
possibility that was raised was that it would be erased, or, once
discovered, would simply be eliminated.  The Borg are great at
adapting to new situations, given the time.  And I don't think they'd
have any reservations about destroying a ship filled with humanized
Borgs to preserve the integrity of the collective.

I do think that some mention would have to be made of just what
happened in this respect if _Vendetta_ became a movie, but I don't
think it would necessarily prohibit it from becoming one.

Numerous IMHO's of course.

Joe
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jrrt@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.l.mitchell)
Subject: STAR TREK VI Poster for sale
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Lincroft, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:57:36 GMT

{Posting for a friend without net access... - Rob}
 

STAR TREK VI:  POSTER FOR SALE

The battle for peace has begun... Poster for Sale, but for how long
Mr. Spock? for ...how long?

I have 1 lobby poster for Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.  This is
the real thing - a full size exhibition one sheet - direct from Paramount.
Available to the highest bidder. I will accept bids through July 31.
call Bryan at 908 264-7289.
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes idea for Star Trek VII
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:39:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

>>obviously the two of us are going to have a hard time agreeing on anything.
>>i suggest that we stop this thread where it lies.
>>
>>me

 >Ahhhh....The spice of life!!!!! Disagreements!!!! :-)
 >
 >becker@edwards-vax.af.mil

okay, but remember . . . you _asked_ for it.

>>>Just because I said Star Trek as we know it is centered around the 
>>>awesome threesome, doesn't mean that I don't think there are many
>>>other stories that could be told.  If another story is told that
>>>has its roots from Star Trek, I say great, but don't call it Star
>>>Trek.  The title has to change.
>>>
>>>becker

>>i cannot believe that people think like this.  it's called "Star Trek",
>>not "Star Trek: the adventures of Captain James T. Kirk".  
>>a rose by any other name etc.

 >Come on.....thats like putting four other people in the I love Lucy 
 >series and calling it I love Lucy.....it wouldn't be the same!  

congratulations, becker, i can't tell whether you're deliberately baiting me
or you simply have no intelligence whatsoever.  if the latter is true,
then i seriously doubt i can assist you in any way, but here we go:

      "I LOVE LUCY" AND "THE LUCY SHOW" BOTH HAVE SOMEONE'S NAME
      IN THE TITLE.  HINT:  IT IS THE SAME NAME.  HINT HINT:  IT
      IS THE NAME OF THE STAR OF EACH SHOW.

      EXTRA-DIFFICULT THINKING DEPARTMENT:  "STAR TREK" DOES NOT
      HAVE ANYBODY'S NAME IN THE TITLE.  HINT: THERE IS NO REASON
      TO BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING WITH "STAR TREK" IN ITS NAME MUST
      BE ABOUT JAMES T. KIRK.

please stare at this for a few hours until you either grasp this concept
or until you can "disagree" sensibly.  at this time, your "rebuttals"
are merely adding weight to _my_ points.

and i can't leave without some bonus flotsam:

 >Come on.....thats like putting four other people in the I love Lucy 
 >series and calling it I love Lucy.....it wouldn't be the same!  

of course it wouldn't be the same; it would have four other people!
=== THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE JOKE.  DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLAME IT. ===

ok
dpm
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Starfleet Doctors and the Academy (was Fascist State)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:29:33 GMT

>In article <1992Jul17.201707.5381@epas.toronto.edu>, dhyder@epas.utoronto.ca (David Hyder) writes:
>> A brief question for the net: (apologies if this has already been discussed)
>> Is not the Federation an oligarchic military dictatorship? My reasons for
>> asking:

In article <1992Jul20.124014.57351@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE) replies:
>[in all fairness it must be admitted that SFA seems to be much more than 
>a military university:  very few MD's in the Army are West Point graduates,
>but all Starfleet MD's seem to have attended the Acadamy.  Perhaps for a 
>year after med school?]

Why do you say that all Starfleet MD's seem to have attended the
Academy?

I'm not sure that they *do* go to the Academy.  I think McCoy never
went because of his question in the ST Classic episode "The Ultimate
Computer" about what a "dunsel" is.  Kirk, Spock, Sulu, and Chekov all
knew; even after a year, I think, somebody would have known a general
term like that.

In the TNG episode "Conundrum", the computer may have listed Dr.
Crusher as having graduated from the Academy; I do not remember.
Anyway, I would disregard *anything* the computer stated in that
episode because it was under the influence of an outside force (of
course, if we know anything to the contrary, such as Picard is captain
of the Enterprise, that's a different thing :-).

I can imagine *some* Starfleet MDs attended the academy, but the two
main doctors we have had "access" to don't seem to have attended, in
my opinion.

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Shatner, STV, and everything: an editorial to readers
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Distribution: canada,usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:41:10 GMT

In article <2381@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mdlawler@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael D. Lawler) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.225712.5176@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, p5ku@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (BAMFORD) writes:
>> 
>> Kirk, not to mention the frequent appearance of his daughter in every
>> scene on the bridge, but these and the other attempted-slapstick moments

>Could someone please tell me who Kirk's daughter is and who she 
>plays in ST-V?  Thanks!

Shatner's daughter plays 'nameless Bridge Ensign #1' in STV. Here's how you can
spot her. There's a scene, I'm not sure where in the film it is, probably near
the beginning, in which there is a close up of Kirk speaking into a book, made
of metal and electronics, labeled 'Captain's Log'. Partway into his log entry,
the book malfunctions, putting an end to that recording. The Ensign that he 
hands the defective book to is played by Shatner's daughter. Once you identify
her, she can be seen in many of the bridge shots.


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