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From: alanj@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: David Benoit?
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:05:10 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1993Jan22.192144.63077@cc.usu.edu>, sl8nr@cc.usu.edu writes:
> David Benoit? you say.  Who the hell is this guy! I'll tell you who this guy
> is.  He's the guy that's going to wip the hell out of all the other boys in the
> slam dunk contest.  Have you seen him sky? The guy is amazing!  I just hope he
> pulls out all the stops for the contest.  (sorry for the overused cliche)
> Anyway, just thought I'd give you my opinion. 
> 
> Justin Hult (hult@ups.edu)

I don't know that Benoit is going to "whip the hell out of all the other boys."
He will be the crowd favorite though.  He is a second year player from Alabama
(he spent a year in Europe before making the Jazz last year).  He isn't as
flashy as a Shawn Kemp, but he can jump.  He probably got the nod for the
contest because he plays for the Jazz and the all-star event is in Salt Lake
City this year.

Although he played power forward behind Karl Malone for most of last year, his
emergence in the playoffs at small forward made Blue Edwards expendable.  He is
backing up Ty Corbin at the small forward spot this year.  If he does win the 
contest, which he is very capable of doing, it would be a great story.  A guy 
who wasn't drafted coming in and making the team as a free agent and winning
the dunk contest.  So there are better stories but hey . . . :-)

Alan
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From: muino@nitrogen.oscs.montana.edu (Pedro Muino)
Subject: Re: John Williams (LAC)
Organization: Montana State University
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:26:50 GMT

In article <C18qEu.p3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom) writes:
>In <1jmhdjINN334@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>
>>In article <1j6rvsINNgvs@news.aero.org> robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
>>>In article <1j6pkcINNnv4@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>>>|And Vlade reportedly smokes 2 packs of Marlboros a day.

	{Stuff deleted}

>
>Actually, I don't think he`s bullshitting at all.  I remember reading in an
>article somewhere (sorry, but I don't remember it offhand).  Anyways, it was
>stating the differences between basketball here in America and basketball
>overseas.  One was that all the players in the locker room overseas always
			 ^^^  					     ^^^^^^
>enjoyed a cigarette or two at halftime.  I also remember eating too, at 
>halftime, but I'm not so sure.  I heard that that was one of the biggest
>adjustments for Vlade (of course, learning the language was the biggest).
>Hope this clarifies things up a bit.

      Well, I think that using expressions like "all the players" and "always
enjoying" is a guarantee that you are going to be wrong. In this case, I can
tell you, because I've lived there most of my life, that most of the players 
in Europe do not smoke. I don't know if Vlade does smoke or not, but let me 
assure you that smoking is not a regular habit among athletes.

      The only player I know who is a smoker is Zarko Paspalj, from Croatia,
and former member of the San Antonio Spurs. He acknowledged to smoke two packs
of cigarettes a day, (I don't know the brand, though). Both Paspalj and Divac
entered the NBA the same year, and, (at that time), both were from Yugoslavia.
It might be possible that somebody is mixing up these two guys

      Regards

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From: dmjoffe@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Michael Joffe)
Subject: Re: Chris Morris
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:38:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.213453.13614@src.honeywell.com> shankar@src.honeywell.com (Subash Shankar) writes:
>
>I noticed that Chris Morris didn't play last game, and had few minutes
>the previous game.
>
>Does anybody know what his status his?  Injury, out for how long?

He has a hip flexor that cause him to miss the 2nd half of the bulls
game and all of the hawks game.  I think he is day to day.  The Nets
need him back badly, and he's been playing great this season.  He's shooting
over 50% and is in the top ten in offensive rebounding.

Dave

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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Rodney Monroe?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:58:15 GMT


Does anyone know the whereabouts of Rodney Monroe?  Is he still on 
Atlanta?

thanks all for your help.

ben
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From: littaum@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Mike Littau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BLAZER SEX SCANDAL
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:29:07 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.cs.orst.edu

In article <1993Jan26.185843.29233@mcc.com> rudwick@rock.pkg.mcc.com (Tom Rudwick) writes:
>
>It's just like Magic kept saying on the broadcast:
>Rod Strickland is the best penetrator in the league!
>(Now that Magic is retired. ;^)
>

NOW YOU'VE DONE IT!

(Note:  I am a Blazer fan, I fully expect them to go to the finals, but . . .
this is a golden opportunity)...

Note 2:  For some reason I was "gifted" with these quips during the Blazer/
Golden State game.

<When it became clear that the point would be racked up in this game and
the Blazers were hot.>  "Gee, they should go to Utah more often!"

"Portland is a high scoring team.  And they don't do so bad on the court,
either."

<After Kersey hit his 2nd 3-pointer, Bill Schonley the cable TV announcer
said.  "Yes!  Oh Jerome!"> --  "That's what she said!."

...in case anyone was interested, the police released the "first names"
of the ALLEGED trailblazers involved.  They were clyde, jerome, terry,
cliff, tracey, rick <!>, danny <?!> & david.  With this list I'm surprised
Bill [Schonley] and Paul [Allen] were not among them.

Terry Porter seems to leave his hand "hanging" after shooting the ball
<ala a stereotypical effeminate homosexual gesture.>  "I guess he's trying
to build his case against the allegations."


<Again, I hope no one takes offense at this, but the situation seems kinda
rediculous.  I mean, Rick Aidleman??>

Oh, BTW, in case anyone was interested, Portland won 143-133 (or something
like that.).  


GO BLAZERS!  <Straight past any wayward minors!>
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From: khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: How are the Wolves doing (besides poorly)?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:27:01 GMT

Since the coaching change that put former assistant Sidney Lowe in charge of
the team they have at least been competitive against every team they have
played.  They have even had leads in every game (some even in double-figures),
but have been unable to sustain the leads.

Before the Wolves left on there most recent road trip, some of the players
were saying that they were tired.  Lowe is working them hard in practices 
and it seems to show during the first half.  But in the second half it looks
like their legs have turned to rubber.

The teams spirits started out very high when Sid took over, but each loss,
each blown lead, is chopping away at their spirts.  There have been no real
ego conflicts since Sid took over.  Hopefully those are all gone.

The team really needs to start to be able to play a full 48 minutes (w/out 
dying during the last 16) and winning some games or they can start counting 
ping-pong balls in mid-February.

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-Minnesota Twin Family Study-
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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Re: Minkoff Player Rankings
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:53:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.202238.16014@ennews.eas.asu.edu> koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
>(Tony Minkoff) writes:

   [...rankings deleted]

>All in all, I think it's interesting to see how effective it is to
>try and quantify players abilities.  Can stats alone provide an
>accurate picture of player abilities or contributions?  Do we 
>collect the right stats?  Personally, I don't think it can be
>done.  But, I still enjoy looking at this stuff.

     My thoughts exactly!  Defense, especially team defense, is vital
but difficult to measure for individuals.  That's why players like
Majerle and Sam Perkins are usually underrated by statistical 
procedures.

>It will be interesting to see how this years all-star team members
>rank on this list (keeping in mind, of course, that the fans only
>get to vote for the first 5).  How good of a predictor is it.

     Well many years ago my statistics term project was a discriminant
analysis of NBA all-stars.  That is, taking the stats of all NBA players,
try to predict who played and who didn't play in the All-star game.
     I don't remember the exact results; I do remember that a relatively
small number of statistics, 5 or so, pretty much gave you all the
predictive power you were going to get.  Adding additional statistics
didn't improve the predictions.  The discriminant analysis was able 
to correctly predict something like 20 out of 25 players or something like
that.  (The reason there were 25 players was that one player, I think
it was Pete Maravich, was injured, and John Havlicek was selected to
take his place, so there were 25 All-stars that year.  One interesting
thing was that Havlicek was clearly an "honorary" pick -- it was his
last season so he was selected over other statistically better players.
And the discriminant analysis picked this up!  Havlicek had the lowest
"rating" of the 25 All-stars that year.)
     Keep in mind that this discriminant analysis was only a device to 
discriminate between All-stars
and non-All-stars, who are often voted in on superficial bases or on
popularity.  This was not an analysis designed to determine who were
the actual best players.
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From: jkearns@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Kearns)
Subject: Re: Seattle Tix info wanted
Keywords: tickets Seattle home games
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Divison, Intel Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:44:03 GMT

In article <1jlhnjINNha9@shelley.u.washington.edu>, neuharth@shelley.u.washington.edu (John Neuharth) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan21.020143.8516@cs.sfu.ca> ekaas@cs.sfu.ca (Erik Kaas) writes:
|> >Could somebody give me information about the availibility of 
|> >tickets for the following games:
|> >
|> >Portland @ Seattle, 1/30
|> 
|> Sold out...I've got my ticket, though...
|> 
|> >Phoenix @ Seattle, 2/13
|> 
|> Probably not sold out yet, but I'm sure they are going fast.
|>
I just called ... no tix available, but they may open up standing-room-only :-(
 
|> >Portland @ Seattle, 3/23
|> 
|> Also not sold out, and it's in the Kingdome, so it won't really sell out,
|> but if you want to go in a group, I'd get tickets as soon as you can, or
|> you will get stuck with crappy seats...
|> 
|> 
|> >And how can I order the tickets? Does anybody have a
|> >telephone number where I can make reservations?
|> 
|> You can order through Ticketmaster at (206) 628-0888.  They take VISA/MC.
|> 
|> I'm posting this in case other are interested...
|> 
|> Hope that helps!
|> 
|> -John
|> 
|> neuharth@u.washington.edu
|> 
|>
From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BLAZER SEX SCANDAL
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:21:16 GMT
Organization: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine...
NNTP-Posting-Host: pagoda.aero.org

In article <jjonsson.349@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
|[...]
>doesn't plan to press charges because his daughter had told him that the sex 
>was consensual, and the age of consent in Utah is 16.

Is that correct? Wow. Those Mormons are doing something right
after all  :-)

		R.S.
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From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois)
Subject: Re: Craig Hodges and the 3-pt competition
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:22:53 GMT

>What gets me is that they are going to let Hodges (who is not on an NBA
>team) compete, but they, thus far, have REFUSED to let the *ALL TIME*
>leading 3-point shooter into the competition, Dale Ellis of San Antonio.

>If this isn't completely absurb, then I dont know what is....
>NBA and all of its Beurocracy. Gesh... What a joke!

Well, its not THAT absurd, he IS the defending champion.  If Dale
deserves to be there, then I think he should, buthim not being there
is no reason to dis Hodges.

-Dan
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From: wgr@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: Next draft
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:21:50 GMT

In article <1k3rb6INNccf@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>Well, Duke players generally don't come out before they graduate, so that
>makes Hurley the lone draft candidate this year.

Don't tell Thomas "The Other" Hill that.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: paulg@microsoft.com (Paul Goode)
Subject: Re: J R Reid
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:30:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Summary: Spurs: Reid trade

In article <1993Jan21.205325.16962@news.yale.edu>,  () writes:
> In article <1993Jan20.114317.15351@nuscc.nus.sg>, isc20161@nusunix1.nus.sg
> (TAN KWANG MENG) wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, can anyone gimme the details of JR Reid's move from
> > Charlotte to San Antonio (like salary, reason for move,
> 
> It seems that the trade was one underachieving power forward for another
> (Sydney Green for JR Reid.)  Charlotte felt it had enough strength under

Charlotte also obtained a conditional #1 draft pick from San Antonio
in 1993. The conditions, which potentially defer the draft pick to as
late as 1995 and offer a compensatory 2nd-round pick should this
happen, kick in only if the '93 pick is among the top eight. If the
season ended today, this would be the 22nd pick.

Paul
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: Blazers ...
Organization: yo-yo dyne propulsion 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:21:35 GMT

any truth to the rumor that they've started playing "smells like
teen spirit" during timeouts in portland?

james
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: ANTI PAINTBALLERS???
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:25:06 PST
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Tuesday January 26 1993 12:54, Robert Osborne wrote to All:

 RO> You don't need a FFL for a crossbow but a crossbow is classed as a
 RO> firearm under many legal definitions of the word firearm and is
 RO> a deadly weapon under any definition of the term.   What BATF
 RO> requires or doesn't require of you is meaningless.

Excuse me? BATF is the ONLY regulatory agency which controls the sale and
possesion of firearms. Local and State police departments must follow the
guidelines established by BATF. In addition, BATF has final say on the FFL.
BATF does not classify a crossbow as a firearm. They classify it as a high
power bow to the best of my reading (the regs weigh more than a skid of
paint). Ergo, I don't need an FFL to buy crossbows for resale. I do need
one to sell the usual Smith and Wesson fare. Oh, ok, I take part of it back.
State and Local governments have been known to place additional restrictions
on various weapons. But as a general rule, BATF has the final say unless
overridden by the US Congress.

 RO> Did you know that the terminal velocity of most bullets is ~300fps.
 RO> Did you know that many people are killed each year by bullets falling
 RO> to the earth.  A bullet traveling the same speed as a paintball in a
 RO> sanctioned tournament would be deadly.

Sorry. The specs from the Shooter's Bible on rounds like the 165 grain
.30-06, the 180 grain .357, the 145 grain .38 Special, to name just a few,
are way above 300 fps at nominal range (the range you'd consider it accurate
to). Get a copy, its interesting reading even if you don't reload.

 RO> A .22 short has a 50 grain bullet and muzzle velocity of ~900fps.
 RO> My .68 ball bearing would be >400 grains and a muzzle velocity of
 RO> ~450fps. This means that my ball bearing has ~2 times the kinetic energy
 RO> of a .22 short.

For how long after it leaves the bore? Kinetic energy at the muzzle is
irrelevant to the target. Muzzle velocity is highly relevant. This can be
demonstrated. Fire a lead (least likely to damage your bore) .68 ball from
your marker at a plastic jug of water 100 feet downrange at 450 fps. First,
I suggest to you that you may not achieve 450 fps. at the muzzle due to the
mass of the ball. But try anyway. Next, fire a .22 short at it. Given the
relevance of the plastic jug full of water to certain parts of human anatomy,
which "shot" achieves a) holing penetration, and b) internal pressure.

Anyway, the best thing about all this is that a .68 caliber paintball at 300
fps isn't very threatening to a player wearing proper face protection. :-)

John

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From: crm4@po.CWRU.Edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Apex Elite
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:22:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I'm not sure exactly what the Apex costs, but from what I've heard , 
they are anything but elite!! I would highly reccomend getting a
Phantom. They are excellent guns. Even better yet , try a Sterling.
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From: agillum@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Aaron C Gillum)
Subject: Pump and Semi range
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:00:57 GMT

Could someone explain to me how a pump gun shooting at 300 fps can possible 
shoot farther than a semi shooting at 300 fps (providing they are both shooting
straight)?

I hear these stories of people 'out distancing' semis and it doesn't make much 
sense to me.

My theory is that when face to face, the semi player begins to hose. This cuts 
down on ball velocity. If you use your brain a little and don't get nuts, 
shouldn't you be able to fire off shots sporadicly with the same range?

I can give you accuracy.
Aaron
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: ironmen question
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:17:28 GMT


-- 
" I am from the planet Larson on the far side of the Galaxy" said the
space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
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From: itd11@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Don Utley)
Subject: Tippmann .68 Special and Equip
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:28:03 GMT

For sale or trade:
Tippmann .68 Special semi auto paintgun
20oz CO2 tank
150 round sight feeder
X-Fire mask system
2 60 ball quick loaders
Serial number is 18170 and is only about 9 months old
Has only about 1000 rounds shot through it! !
Make offer!! Would like to trade for hard drive or high speed modem!
Leave e-mail or call (317)495-9603!
From: macquivr@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (John Todd)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Indoor place in Lawrence Ma.
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:56:32 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

Has anybody been to the indoor arena in Lawrence Ma.  
A few of my friends were thinking of checking it out but we would
like to hear from somebody who has been there.
- Q
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Subject: A few thoughts (Was IRONMAN on Olympics)
From: tyger@vax2.winona.msus.edu
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:33:44 CST
Organization: Winona State University

In article <kfMqieW00iV1Q5dWJ0@andrew.cmu.edu>,
         ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Franklin Rose) writes:
> 	<1993Jan22.170836.24304@nastar.uucp>
> Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
> In-Reply-To: <1993Jan22.170836.24304@nastar.uucp>
> 
> 
>    The IPPA attempted to get an exihibition game into the last Olympics,
> I think however it would be far more probable for the upcoming Summer
> Games in Atlanta '96.  I'll talk to Jessica Sparks about it and see if
> anything is in the works. ...On the exhibition subject
> however there are already exhibition games at Sports and Boats shows...
> (and) someone in Pennsylvania that is interested in promoting an arena
> paintball curcuit kinda like the Monster Truck thing.  I'll try to keep
> you postedf.

(Sorry, the media in me had to shorten it.)

Anyhow, yeah.  A 'traveling show' would work, however there are certain
problems to overcome.  SAfety first, the netting needed would have to be 
either really long or 'dome' shaped.  There's also that war thing.  Would
cammouflage be disalowwed?  If so, what do you suppose that people
should wear?  I open this to the public.

Oh yeah, tell Ms. Sparks 'hi' from Minnesota.

-Tyger
From: ar2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Franklin Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Where to get the Mini-Cocker
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:50:33 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


        You can call Bob Long my captain at his store Delta Archery and
Paintball (510)685-7141 he should be getting stock before just about
anybody else.  Also he can hook you up with Palmer, Air America, and
Swiftline and probably organize the building of the gun.
From: hargijk@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: FAQ Equipment modification
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:13:20 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I just wanted to make a point on the FAQ Equipment list. 

I think UVEX Goggles should be removed from the FAQ because 
A.)They are NOT paintball approved.
B.)UVEX has left the market.

Joey Hargis 'Hollywood'
IPPA #6419