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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:00:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I just received a large brochure advertising PC software available 
from Tiger Software.  On one page I find an ad for SuperStor, which
is selling for $79.90.  Hm, I bought More Disk Space for around $40 
-- about half the price.  On another page here's a big ad for Powerstrip,
with a headline that says, "Replace Windows' Clumsy Program Manager
with a Macintosh-like Menu Bar!"  For only $59.

Once again, PCs cost too much!
From: king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Zapping P-RAM under System 7
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:07:51 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


From king Thu Aug 20 14:07:48 1992
To: /afs/acpub/users5/king/.article

Zap parameter ram on any system-7 machine by holding down command-option-P-R
during boot.
King
From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: * America On-Line vs. Prodigy vs. Genie...which one??
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:53:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Aug12.215335.2040
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <SMITTIE.92Aug12100806@beach.csulb.edu> smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>>What is this hangup people have about wanting to do things the hard way????
>>If you like Compu$serve without Navigator you must just LOVE Unix and DOS!
>
>A true AOL evangelist at work. Doncha just love it.
>
>smittie

If you are wondering why I like "brain-dead" interfaces so MUCH it is
because I have been using computers since 1963 (IBM 1620 punched-card system!).
Anything that does the work for me is much better than making me do the
work.  It is called "working smart not working hard."  I have used DOS,
Unix, IBM JCL, DEC PDP-10 command language, Concurrent CSS, etc., etc.
When I log on to CI$, I can find what I want without help, I just hate
all the work needed to find it!  On AOL, I point-and-click!

Dennis
watson@clark.edu
From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: QuickTime Movie Plug-In for MS Word 5.0
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:51:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Aug12.165119.24317
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Aug11.012546.23496@panix.com> wlarkin@panix.com (Ward Larkin) writes:
>I'm just now getting down to reading my August issue of
>MacUser.  On page 41 there is a short notice that the
>QuickTime Movie Plug-In Module for MicroSoft Word 5.0
>is available on UseNet.
>
>I checked comp.sys.mac.binaries and didn't see it.
>
>If it's not too big,  I'd be most appreciative if someone
>could email it too me.
>
 Or just post where from where it can be ftp'd!

Dennis
watson@clark.edu
From: cory@enigami.mv.com (Cory Kempf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: What's MPW?
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:21:03 GMT
Reply-To: cory@enigami.mv.com
Organization: EnigamI, Inc., Nashua, NH
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Aug13.213844.7450@newshost.unh.edu> (comp.sys.mac.misc), K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa) writes:
>I've seen references to MPW at ftp.apple.com and other places.  What does
>MPW stand for and what is it?  I've got the impression that this is 
>distributed by Apple and it's a language.  Am I right?

Close.  MPW is Macintosh Programmer's Workshop.  It is a shell/editor
combination that Apple produces.  Apple (and a few third parties)
develop compilers & other tools that work under the MPW environment.

MPW, being a shell has a language built into it.

MPW is a misguided attempt by apple to impliment a vaguely unix like
development environment on the mac.  Many (most) of the unix utilities
are implimented under MPW.  One of its biggest drawbacks (IMO) is
that it suffers from a Not Invented Here syndrom.  The commands are
named differently, the regular expression language is different, etc.
These gratuitous differences all combine to make it more difficult
to learn.

It is a very powerful development environment, the most powerful one
on the mac, but it really sufferes from having the Mac Interface tacked
onto the outside, rather than being designed into it.

It is also essentually a command line interface for the Mac.  Most
System things (choosing a printer / AppleShare server, etc) can be
done from within MPW.

+C


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Cory Kempf                    EnigamI, Inc.
cory@enigami.mv.com           ...!decvax!enigami!cory
Annon:	wi.5036@wizvax.methuen.ma.us

"F' cryin' out loud, it's *your* life; shouldn't you at least examine 
your lifestyle values to see if they are really what *you* want."
										--Keith Lim
From: mig@beach.csulb.edu (Mig Gomez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: how to contact Shiva or Kinetics
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:40:04 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

Hello networld,

      I have an Ethernet card that I have been trying to find a System 7
driver for. It's made by Kinetics. A friend of mine told me that Kinetics
is owned by Novell but has since been sold to Shiva (is this true?).
      Anyway, if anyone out there has any information on how to contact
Shiva or Kinetics, I really appreciate it. Or if there is an archive
somewhere that would have drivers for network cards made by the above
company, I'd like to know that, too.

Thanks a million
mig

-- 
=======================================================================
Mig Gomez                                          mig@beach.csulb.edu
Instructional Computing Consultant                 CSULB Library LL22
CSULB                                              1250 Bellflower Blvd.
From: aw@camcon.co.uk (Alain Waha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Apple Shareholders Meeting/ What kind of meeting?
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:12:10 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Consultants Ltd., Cambridge, UK

Forgive me for my innocence but...

What kind of a shareholder meeting are you proposing to hold?
In my book, the meeting concentrate on strategic, operational,
investment, even philosophical matters.

It is however not a detailled technical discussion.  I know that any
subject can be brough up... but what kind of answer do you expect?
Do you even expect your technical questions to be noted down
and taken into consideration at a later stage?

In conclusion, I would recoemd you ,concentrate on broad general issues
such as: _how does apple justify its international pricing policy?
         _what future do you see for apple hardware manufaturing capacity,
         it is going to retain its in-house design capacity or delegate it,
         and concentrate on system design and software?
         _what philosophy will apple adopt in bringing newer version and
         greater functionality to its system sofware.  Are all basic feature
         going to remain free, with extra's shipped & paid separatly? or
         is the system sofware going to become a product in its own right?
         Are you going to continue building the system in a modular manner
         and start selling it in bit? Taillored for each user BUT having
         the effect to lower the lowest common denominator system, AND
         making the life os system administartor hell AND making purchasing
         even the system a difficult accounting procedure!

I suspect the answers to this kind of questions, hopefully probing and
sharpely directed, will deliver a much better quality of answers...

IMHO!

Alain
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Novice Mac Advice Sought
Date: 15 Aug 92 14:50:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <82LDPB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman) writes:
> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
> 
>> 
>> **MacPlus, 2.5 Meg Ram, 45 Meg HD, ImageWriter II, Tons of Software
>> including Page Maker, Word, Manuals, Disks and Paper.  $1150/Best Offer
>> 
>> **MacPlus, 4/140, loaded.  ImageWriter II, modem, ext drive, complete
>> $1150/Best
>> 
>> 
> 
> They're both OBSCENE! I've seen Mac SE's with 4/40 for $750. A _PLUS_?!?!?
> 
> 
> I'm selling a MacPortable for $1400. It has a 2400bps internal modem, 
> 640x400 B/W active matrix screen (same as PB170), 16MHz 68000 (2x Mac SE 
> or Classic), 4 MB RAM, 40MB HD, tons of software, full size keyboard, 
> trackball, and it runs for 8 hours on a battery!


	Practice what you preach Peter.  With the superior PowerBook 100 
selling for $900 new with a one-year warranty, don't you think $1400 is 
somewhat obscene?

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Applied Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07103
From: rwatkins@BBN.COM (Ron Watkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: e-mail
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:00:18 GMT
Reply-To: rwatkins@BBN.COM (Ron Watkins)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


I am looking for the "best" mac email package for 25 users (expandable to <100)
it wants to run on an existing appleshare 3.0 server (vice having a dedicated
   mac to be the "postoffice")
it wants to be able to connect via a gatorbox, to a unix machine with sendmail
   (the unix machine is an SGI running iris 4.0.1)
   thus a mac is able to send/receive mail via the internet

if you are currently doing this, could you please send me your recommendations
as well as how much work was involved (details if possible) getting it to
interconnect with the unix host...

thanks

Ron Watkins
rwatkins@bbn.com

I will post results and once I get it all up and running, will post a "quick
guideline" for the net if desired.
From: joungwoo@mensa.usc.edu (John Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Apple menu items limited to 52?
Summary: Apple menu items limited to 52 in Sys 7.0.1?
Keywords: Apple menu items
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:51:45 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mensa.usc.edu


Has anyone experience the following (what I'm experiencing)?

When I add more than 52 things (applications or aliases or anything else) to
the Apple Menu Items folder, either the last item added or the item that
comes last alphabetically disappears from the Apple Menu. (But when I check
the AMI folder, it is surely still there.)

Is 52 items the physical limit of the AMI folder?

FYI, this happens on Mac IIsi 5/80, System 7.0.1 with tuneup 1.1.1.

Any comment/help will be appreciated.

John
-- 
Joung-woo John Kim				joungwoo@mensa.usc.edu
Computer Science Dept.
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089-0781
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: maynard@esther.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: Re: Writing MAC-readable floppies from Sparcstation
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 00:06:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.231921.2268@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>,
echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.224744.11647@access.usask.ca> reid@skorpio.Usask.ca
>(Irving Reid) writes:
>>
>>Sparcs will read and write the same physical format as MS-DOS and Mac
>>FDHD drives (same track and sector layout, etc.).  What they don't do
>>is put a valid DOS directory on the disk.  AFE reads the DOS
>>directory from the disk; since there isn't one, AFE won't work.
>
>I use "fdformat -d" on my Sparc to format diskettes, and it puts a
>valid DOS direcotry. I use "mwrite" and "mread" to write/read the
>diskettes. AFE works fine with this setup. I do it all the time.
>
>echong@ecn.purdue.edu

But if you want to speak to a Mac, not a DOS box, there are substantial
advantages to Suntar. Among these are
1) automatic DeHQX
2) automatic DeMacBinary
3) much better interface than AFE
4) retain decent length, yupper and lower case file names

Maynard Handley
From: grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: RE: IIsi or not IIsi
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:38:09 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County


	The $1572.00 for a IIsi is a great deal, but the
new machines are going to make it almost obsolete. Their
proposed ablities are far greater than the IIsi, especially
in sound. But the IIvi at the smae price will be slower.
But (again) the IIvi is suppose to be upgradeable to 32Mhtz.
(or so it is rumored.)

Later,
	Mike
	ZMEG@AACC.bitnet
	or grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu
From: norge!peter@yenta.alb.nm.us (Peter Espen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Need help upgrading White Knight!
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:38:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Norge International, Albuquerque, NM


        I bought White Knight a year or so ago when it was 11.01. I have
since upgraded via the upgrade patches that have been periodically posted
to USENET and various ftp archives. I am now at 11.10.  I recently got the
patch files to upgrade to version 11.12, another one to go to 11.13, and
another to get to 11.14.  When I run the PUP 2.0 utility to apply the
patches, it asks me to locate the White Knight copy to patch, BUT IT NEVER
GIVES ANY APLLICATIONS IN THE FILE DIALOG TO SELECT.


        What gives!?

        Any help out there?
        
        Peter Espen


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From: dana@are.Berkeley.EDU (Dana E. Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MacWEEK info requested
Date: 19 Aug 1992 03:23:37 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug18.193013.13356@src.honeywell.com> kanefsky@src.honeywell.com (Steve Kanefsky) writes:
>
>Some time ago I had a free subscription to MacWEEK, ...
>I'm interested in getting a PAID subscription this time, ...

Info from the latest MacWEEK may stimulate you to try for another
freebie:
"One-year subscription rate: U.S. $99, Canada/Mexico U.S. $175,
International: U.S. $300 (airmail). All orders must be prepaid.
Direct subscription inquiries to Customer Service Department,
MacWEEK, c/o JCI, P.O. Box 1766, Riverton, N.J. 08077-7366; (609)
461-2100."
No mention of email address or payment method for subscriptions.
-- 
Dana E. Keil           Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics
dana@are.Berkeley.EDU                 University of California, Berkeley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Gifconverter 2.3b1
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 09:08:20 EDT

In article <1992Aug14.122601.16480@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf) writes:
>I got GifConverter 2.3b to run on a Powerbook 100, but it didn't load pictures 
>(all I get is a garbled pattern, not even a bitmap of a GIF!).  Not only that, 
>but on my IIci, if I load in a GIF larger than screen-size and try to save it 
>as JPEG, the lower parts of the GIF get cut off in the JPEG file.  Well, it IS 
>a beta version, no?

Has any one actually been able to get it to *read* a JPEG (JFIF) picture?

It didn't work for me when I tested it--although the files are good (JPEGView
handles them without trouble)--GIFConverter either says it needs more memory
(a 15K JFIF, for example, with a 3000K partition for GIFConverter!) or it drops
to MacsBug...


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:14921 comp.sys.mac.system:11020
From: newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Information on: The IIvi, IIvx, and Performa 600
Date: 16 Aug 1992 20:23:39 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: mohawk.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: performa new macintosh

> <cough> <cough> <cough> <cough> Ehhem... You said that the LCII and
> the IIsi were almost comparable in CPU performance??!?!

Computer performance benchmarking is a tricky business.  I bet I could
create a very contrived benchmark in which the LCII beats a IIsi!
But, I have tested the IIsi against a Classic II (lots like an LC II)
and an SE/30.  My tests were CPU-oriented-- they do not measure disk
or graphics.  The IIsi ws 1.7 times faster than a Classic II and about
15% faster than the SE/30.  The test program is a theorem prover, and
I ran with a large cache to eliminate contention to the Isi's dual
ported video RAM, however this appears to speed up the IIsi's graphics
display much more than anything else.
-- 
 ----
Peter Newton (newton@cs.utexas.edu)
From: claudio@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Claudio S. Nascimento;E303)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: FOR TRADE: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Date: 15 Aug 92 12:43:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London


Hi,

I have "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" for trade.
It is complete with box, manuals, etc.

I would like to trade it for any of the
following games:

        "Secret of the Silver Blades"
        "Monkey Island"
        "Mutant Beach"

I will consider trading for another game on the same style as the
above, i.e. FRP or adventure.

Send replies to   claudio@dcs.qmw.ac.uk



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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:22:04 GMT

In article <65695@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt1619a@prism.gatech.EDU (James is just this guy, you know...) writes:

> There's also other reasons... A Mac is a poor choice as a dumb terminal,

Any computer is a poor choice as a dumb terminal.  If all you want is a
dumb terminal, buy a dumb terminal.

> for example. Frankly, you don't need much more than about $200 of PC
> hardware for that and whoever buys a Mac for that purpose should see a
> psychologist about the problem. On the other hand, MS-DOS is far from
> the best choice for, let's say, page layout. Each machine has it's ups
> and downs and areas in which it excels, and literate people buy their
> machines based on this; illiterate people listen to their friends or
> buy the ones they see the funniest ads for (after all, everyone takes
> advice from someone who hasn't a clue).
> 
> Personally, I have a Mac SE/30, and an Amiga 3000. The Mac cost more
> than the Amiga, but I have a wider range of commercial software for it.
> My Amiga has more quality PD software for it. The Mac has alot better
> PostScript support than the Amiga, though the Amiga does have the added
> capability to print PostScript on non-PostScript printers.

With Freedom of Press, you can print PostScript to almost any PostScript
printer from the Mac.

> The Amiga
> is quite a bit faster has more interface options, multitasks well, and
> its applications are much more tightly integrated than Mac System 7
> allows. My Mac has an equation editor though. All of my research is done
> on the Amiga though because the OS provides so much more support for
> the work I need to do (the Mac, actually provides little to no support
> for the type of data-processing and calculations I do).

How are the applications more tightly integrated than system 7 allows?
This is the first time I've heard this claim for the Amiga.  What interface
options does the Amiga have that the Mac doesn't have?  I'll grant that
the Mac doesn't have a parallel port, and without getting into the necessity
of a parallel port, I'll grant this point.  What kind of data processing and
calculations do you do that the Amiga supports better than the Mac?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: maynard@esther.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: Re: Gifconverter 2.3b1
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:22:48 GMT

Doesn't Gifconverter 2.3b1 state in the docs that you need QuickTime and 32
bit QuickDraw installed to use it? If so, since neither of these exist on
68000 machines, like the SE or PowerBook 100, that explains the problems.

For the record it works fine on my SE/30, with the above installed.

Maynard Handley
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Whatizit fur?
Date: 15 Aug 92 14:52:03 GMT
Organization: UB

Inside the Mac IIfx logic board upgrade kit there is a sticker about
the size of poker card.  It has a big red "S" and an Apple at the
upper left corner.

Anybody knows whatizit for?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: altman@stanford.edu (John Altman)
Subject: Mobius 030 accelerator
Keywords: upgrade
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:16:00 GMT

I have an old SE with 4 MB RAM and the original 20 MB HD,
and I am considering upgrading my computer.  My options are
to buy a new Mac, probably the IIsi, but I am also considering
upgrading the SE itself with the Mobius 030 accelerator (and
a portrait monitor), which claims to have the 68030 chip running at 25
MHz, and the option of adding up to 16 MB RAM.  Does anyone have an
opinion on the Mobius system, and its merits relative to a new IIsi?

No need to clutter the net with responses to this one :-)

Thanks,
John
--
John Altman				altman@cmgm.stanford.edu

"We are a nation too good to make war our most successful enterprise"
Mario Cuomo
From: par@nwu.edu (Pete Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Disappearing icons in System 7
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:00:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Northwestern University

Lately, I've been seeing Macintoshes running System 7 and System 7 tuner
with a most unusual problem.  Instead of the usual "specialized" icons
(like the "V" shield for Disinfectant 2.9), there's only a blank
extension-type icon.  Other files have been similarly affected (MS Word
documents have a blank document icon).  I have no idea as to what is
causing this.  Rebuilding the desktop gets rid of the problem for a while,
but I have seen this problem resurface on at least two Macintoshes.

Please post responses.

Thanks.

P.S.  Network Configuration:  4 Macintosh Classics
																														2 Macintosh IIci
																														1 Macintosh IIcx
																														3 Macintosh IIsi
																														2 Macintosh SE
																														3 Macintosh SE/30	
All are running System 7 or 7.0.1 and System 7 tuner 1.1.1.  

____________________________________
Pete Rodriguez
Undergraduate Admissions
Northwestern University
E-mail:par@nwu.edu
       pete@casbah.acns.nwu.edu