From: kumar@ug.cs.dal.ca (kumar yelubandi)
Subject: Re: Jealousy (from the pages of omni....)
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:06:57 GMT

>From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
>Subject: Re: Jealousy (from the pages of omni....)

>>	The analogy is quite valid I assure you.  The eye beholds...the 

>No, not at all.  Sorry.

>>	mind thinks.  Beauty is analyzed in the first case...intelligence, 
>>	in the second.  If I see something beautiful I will know it.  
>>	If I think someone is intelligent, I will also know that.  Of 

>The discussion has been about being able to objectively measure
>intelligence.  The debate has been that it cannot be effectively done.
>To assert that it is always subjective is not only an extreme position,
>but ridiculous.  


	I was not aware the discussion was about objective/subjective
	intelligence.  Perhaps I came in a little late here.  Hold on
	while I move the shuttle Apology to its launchpad. 10...9....

	

>>	You're not stupid...unless you say it.  What I said can be

>I'm stupid if I say I'm stupid?   I'll have to assume that this is
>a flippant remark, since if it is part of your position, it is again
>ridiculous.

	If you say you are stupid, you are either being clever, or 
	being honest.  Who am I to question your integrity?
	Flippant?  No...not at all. Sorry.  



>>	summed up in a phrase, "Wise people don't flaunt their wisdom".   
>>	[subst. intelligent/wise]

>Wise people should make use of their wisdom, or they are themselves
>useless.  The degree of "flaunt" is, I admit, in the eye of the beholder.

	I agree with you.

>You must realize that some have a very low threshold of what they perceive
>as "flaunting their intelligence".  Sometimes it is when the opponent
>in a debate wins.

        Unfortunately, there are many who see debate as a conquest.
	Mutual benefit is a low priority for these people.


>>ps:	I'm really not this cruel %99.99994 of the time...however, I 
>>	have a low tolerance for elitists and those that ride the 
>>	intellectual ferris wheel.

>Cruel?  You really don't come off as cruel at all.  Just, well, muddled.

	Sarcasm, right?  *ahem*  "...those in the cheap seats, clap
				  your hands...and the rest of you,
				  joost rattle your jewelry....
				  aaahhh-aw-aaahhh-aw-oWW!....two
				  thumbs for MENSA, NOW!!!...twist and
				  shout." 


>It's fine to say that there's something wrong with intelligence tests or
>some group that you perceive as elitist.  But to say that intelligence
>is always subjective is using quite a different definition of "intelligence"
>than we've been debating.  Further, it is not an effective way of
>addressing the issue of what we others have been discussing.  It's as
>though you've said, "Bush is a bad man" and tried to prove it by saying,
>"But Bush is defined as 'Hitler', see?"


	...8...7...[]...2...1...ignition...we have a successful launch!



	Kumar
	
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