From: LOGIN@cbnewse.cb.att.com
Subject: Re: Stern and Seinfeld
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:08:31 GMT

In article <crow.717364904@camelot> crow@camelot.bradley.edu (Nicole Lenard) writes:
>
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>>] i'd like to see some people send *her* email about irrelevant postings.
>
>Hey, here's a radical idea,  why don't you send some *yourself*? So
>
aha! i see what's really going on here now.  you want me to send you
email to start a personal dialog going; one that you apparently hope
will lead to a date with me.  hmmm, i have to admit that not exactly
the starkist tuna "catch of the day" by a long shot, but even i have
standards [very low ones to be sure].  so what do you look like?

>far, I have gotten some mail about this, but it mostly starts with
>"I wouldn't worry about that Ronald asshole..." so apparantly you 
>don't have that many supporters here (duh).
>
yeah, like that carries a lot of weight.  i don't post to win any
popularity contests and given that *some* of the posters to this
newsgroup are real "loosers" [dan quayle spelling - when *he* calls
you a loser you might as well just mail it in] i don't think i'll
worry about those "assholes" either.  but then again, you've got
to ask yourself to what extent howard stern concerns himself about
winning popularity contests?  i would say in getting to where he is
today he probably wasn't too concerned and flailed away at will.  now,
however, with popularity, ratings, and a lot of things depending on
the continuation of the same i suspect he feels a bit more constrained.
he'd probably never admit it, but it's just human nature.

>>] now, if someone *actually* has something meaningful to say about my post,
>>] i'd like to hear it for a change...
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>Here's what I want to know.  You've made it obvious that you don't like
>Stern very much, so why do you subscribe to this newsgroup at all, and
>
if stern is so great, then if i say something critical of him why can't
you defend him.  the way i see it, this newsgroup is for discussion of
howard stern, who is a controversial individual.  why is it a surprise
then, that disucssion on this newsgroup would reflect some of the
controversy surrounding him?  in fact, i should be getting
*paid" for my commentary on this newsgroup.  were it not for
people like me on this newsgroup discussion would degenerate
into obsequious blather like:

message 1
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ha ha hoo hoo, and then howard said...

message 2
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that was pretty funny.  i missed it because i was on vacation.  it
was terrible, i was having stern withdrawal symptoms the whole time
and couldn't get a wink of sleep.  i'm glad it's over...

message 3
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yeah, that's happened to me before.  now, before i go on vacation,
i tape record 3 weeks worth of shows and listen to them while i'm
gone.

message 4
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that sounds like a great idea!  i think i'll try it...

message 5
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yeah, me too...

...

message 25
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stern is god!!!

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message 925
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ha ha hoo hoo, and then howard said...


>why do you feel compelled to insert your opinion on everything that's 
>talked about in this group?
>
i've been asked that in email before.  i may get flamed for saying
this publicly, but it's the truth; the kind that you're not likely
to get from stern.  first of all, the volume of posting on this
group is not great and so while it is an exaggeration to say that
i insert my opinion about "everything" but i do post when i feel i
have something to say.  and if you look at the situation objectively,
i actually do have some things to say worth listening to.

the second point is that i'm full of opinions [and a few other things
according to some], and i really feel that other people should be so
fortunate as to be able to hear them.  this may sound egotistical to
some, but it's really not.  while i think of my self as having not
having a self-esteem deficit i am not on an ego trip.  i think of ego
types as being into trying to scam everyone else into thinking that
they are so cool as to be beyond belief.  while i have a reasonably
positive self-image, i don't think that i'm perfect, and i am fully
aware of, and accepting of the fact that the rest of the world may
not share my opinion of myself.

so what's so wrong with that?  most people, imho, don't really like
themselves and therefore dislike people who do.  to borrow a quote
from howard stern (which i happen to agree with):  "i love myself
which is why you hate me."  a very insightful comment i would say.

>If you don't like Howard Stern, *FINE*.  That doesn't mean that were
>"idiots" or "losers" because we're Stern fans. I don't consider *you*
>a loser because you don't like Howard Stern.   That's your business, and
>that's your opinion. Fine. *However*, once you start judging people
>and putting them down just because of thier personal tastes, that's 
>nothing but bullshit snobbery.  Feel free to reply.
>
hey! i'm just looking for truth in advertising here.  i'd suggest that
you put a sign on your forehead that reads:  "this space for rent" [of
course, completely at your option, you may choose to put similar signs
over your mouth and genitals].


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