From: itsmine@med.unc.edu (Greg Popken)
Subject: Re: Hitler (was "A rat is a pig is a.....")
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:35:29 GMT

In article <BzFI4G.9u0@wpg.com> russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence) writes:
>From article <1992Dec17.215534.23590@Firewall.Nielsen.Com>, by jkapson@ad-29.Naitc.Com (John Kapson):
>
>Perhaps you meant to refer to the Hulsey Academy of "Debate" 
>here.  It's the Hulsey Academy, not Lawrence, that's committed to 
>the dubious practice of resolving arguments by appealing to 
>credentials, emblems of authority, and so on.  Lawrence, on the 
>other hand, has made it clear on many occasions that he prefers 
>facts and reasons to 'ad hominem' appeals.  Examples:


[DELETED: A BUNCH OF SELF SERVING BULLSHIT RUSSELL USES TO BLOW HOT AIR UP
HIS OWN ASS] 

I can't take it any more Russell.  I have tried to be civil.  I have tried
to be factual. I have intellectually honest. (As I'm sure Martin has). 
But, I can't not take your unfounded innuendos, your evasion of  the
issues, and your blatant attempts to ignore the facts.  You sir are the most
closed minded, intellectually bankrupt, and intentionally deceitful person
it has ever been my misfortune to encounter.
I don't give a shit about your credentials as anyone so inept at bringing
rational context to a discussion would no doubt cast shame on a jr. high
school much less a university.
Have you not noticed that none of the other AR advocates here on the net
have come to your defense?  Perhaps they are ashamed to claim you as well? 
I cannot blame them.
I have received honest, thoughtful (though not always correct) opinions
from everyone I have had contact with here.  I have always replied in kind.
(With occasional lapses for the sake of humor)
I have a great respect for peoples opinions.  Even more so when they are
truthful and openly proclaimed.  You in great contrast...

I have stated before Russell.  We (that is the rest of us on the net) are
here spending our valuable time in order to address an issue that we feel
is important to our society.  Not, to tap dance (theres that dance word
again) around the issues and play games of "are too" "are not".
It truly sickens me that someone so interested in an issue refuses to be
honest about it.  
Though Robert, Ro, hell even Jen. J. disagree with me they are honest
about their stance on the issues and their sources.  Exchanges with them
lead to frank discussions and prompt me to reanalyze some issues. 
Discussions with you only confirm stereotypes of AR advocates as
intellectually devoid and emotionally unstably people.

What are you afraid of Russell?

Are you afraid we will make fun of you?
Too late.  Your present inabilities or unwillingness to address the issues
has opened you up to that. (Russell tactic 1,2,3,....)

Are you afraid we will chastise you?
Too late.  I just took care of that one.

Are you afraid that you will make yourself look like a fool?
Too late.  Reference Any post of Russells in the last 2 months.

Are you afraid we will prove you wrong?
????????
Are you afraid that you can't prove us wrong?
????????
Perhaps if you try you can?


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