HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Steve Myerson)
Subject: Re: The most attractive woman in wrestling
Keywords: Best looking woman
Organization: Raytheon Company, Portsmouth, RI
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:31:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.011759.2040@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mike Dunnagan writes:

* I don't see how anyone could find Sherri attractive. The thing that
* comes to my mind when I see her is "black hole." Lady Blossom is ugly too.
* I used to like Precious, but she's probably a hag now. Hollywood of GLOW
* was a babe.

Well, if you want to drag GLOW into the discussion,
my vote goes to Bambi.

Steve Myerson (sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com)
From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Saturday Night's Main Event
Keywords: Results
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:19:12 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:


>  Interview with Bret Hart after the match, Shawn Michaels comes in and 
>reminds Bret who Shawn just beat, the person who beat Bret at Summer Slam.
>They shove each other.

I enjoyed this interview.  Michaels came across as arrogant,
and he made a good point: he did just beat the guy who beat Hart
at Summer Slam.  Both Hart and Michaels can work, so I hope we
see some good matches between them over the next few months.  Sure
these matches can't be good enough to make up for the WWF's loss of
the Ultimate Warrior, but then, what could be?

>  Closing:  McMahon says Heenen has a present (I could barely hear the
>commentary so someone else might like to fill in when this box came in). 
>Heenen is on the phone and announces that Warrior and Macho Man will not
>be coming down to the ring together at Survivor Series and that one will
>find a replacement.

They didn't actually show the contents of the present did they?  
Maybe they'll explain on Prime Time what the box contained.

Tom
From: scheid@danzan.EBay.Sun.COM (David Scheid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect face turn
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:53:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Lets see....

Curt is off the injured reserve and is now Savage's partner.
Curt received a mysterious phone call during Monday nite's
show and never indicated who the other party was.

Vince is really short of talent and heat. He needs to do something
real quick to build up his sagging audiences. 

As someone pointed out, he tripped into this by accident with the
firing of the Warrior, and yet, this is the biggest thing to hit
WWF for some years.

Bret Hart is the Champ and is contending with Micheals. Bob Backlund
is in the wings, tuning up for his reemergence. Micheals is the IC
champ soon to be programed against Jannetty.

Curt is a former IC champ who lost to Bret. Flair only fights for the
World title. Curt vs. Bret as face vs. face wont work. Curt vs. Flair
does. Wrestlemania ?? coming up could be Curt vs. Flair, with Flair
having regained the title in December or whenever. 

So, I look for Curt's return (if indeed it is a return and not a work)
to be one where Flair & Ramon beat up Savage, go after Curt's back for
turning on them and legitimize Curt. Savage is beat up and put on the
shelf and the mysterious phone caller turns out to be Bob Backlund, who 
comes in and makes a save. This allows Backlund and Curt to tag while 
tuning up and gives the fans someone to really cheer. 

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Dave Scheid - All Disclaimers Apply


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From: jesse@masc.rice.edu (Jesse Elliott Money)
Subject: Re: One more Clash thought
Organization: Dept. of Math. Sciences, Rice University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:43:46 GMT


Back in the old Mid-South days, Joel, not Erik, Watts did some color work and
put together a few video clips.

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Would someone *please* tell me what happened on Prime Time???
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:36:40 GMT

I'm not trying to be impatient, but at least four people have
specifically asked for this information, and no one had provided it.

What happened on Prime Time that caused all this dissention, and
prompted the flurry of posts that Hennig will become Savage's partner?

Michael
From: jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Henning to team with
Date: 19 Nov 1992 04:16:40 -0600
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <3318.1693.uupcb@spacebbs.com> you write:
>I also thought of this by the lack of this plot even being mentioned
>by anyone on Prime Time.  You would of thought that Vince, Hillbilly
>or Duggan would of at least said to Macho "You better be careful
>of Perfect, he might still be with Flair".  Instead they instantly
>supported the Macho choice and made it sound like Curt would be a
>great partner.

I think the biggest sign that this turn by Perfect wasn't planned
was the fact that they didn't mention Warrior with the exception
of the very beginning, and even then McMoney didn't even bother
coming up with a slick explanation..  That tells me that getting
rid of Warrior was a sudden decision, and thus the Perfect turn
was unplanned.

Doesn't the three of them supporting Henning make you think
they're setting up a bigger fall for Savage?

jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca      |  "It's better than bad,it's good!"
                           |             - Log(tm) by Blammo!


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From: lhstone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Louis "Big Lou" Stone)
Subject: Not exactly.. Macho _did_ announce divorce
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:08:33 GMT

While I should not be proud in bringing this little tidbit to
light, I am a subscriber to WWF magazine and thus have the 
"inside scoop"

In the December 1992 Issue (Shawn Michaels on the Cover) Page 10
Covers the breakup of the First Couple of the WWF

THe letter from Macho States:
  "It is a fact that Elizabeth and I are divorced, and I would like
   to go on record right now to say that this is nobody's fault. 
   It's just one of those things that didn't work out.

   The next thing I want to say is: Elizabeth, I know you're out there
   and reading this.  Please remember that in my heart, I will always
   love you.
                         Randy Savage"


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From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect face turn
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:32:23 EST
Reply-To: uunet!tension!birdland!andy
 <carmel.722296533@phage.cshl.org>
Keywords: Stromer stupidity
Summary: Time to fix his wagon
Organization: The State of CT.... NOT!
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <carmel.722296533@phage.cshl.org>, Gilles Carmel in Kuret Lab - CSHL writes:

> >Bwahahahahah!  Funny post, but... wait... This isn't alt.tasteless!
> >What am I doing here?  What newsgroup is this.  Help!  Let me outta
> >here!
> 
> Actually, this post is from Phil Stromer......
> Only one man could use peewee as a login name.  He has been doing his rambling
> in soc.culture.african.american lately and everybody are tired of his antics.
> How the hell he got a computer account after the publicity he got for posting
> racist and homophobic comments!!
> 

Perhaps it's time to do what was done when he acted up before: start 
forwarding his messages to "root" at his feed site. I'm sure they would
be interested in seeing what he posts.

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From: cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir)
Subject: SWL First Round Update
Summary: Here's what you've been waiting for...
Keywords: SWL, fantasy
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:45:55 GMT

        OK, here we go. To all those who have submitted wrestlers to me
before the appointed deadline, the matches are being drawn as I write
and will soon be availible to post. When they are posted, the match
results will be posted TWO WEEKS later. The individual match occurances
will be e-mailed to the participants as soon as they are finished being
played out and scripted. This is just a post to explain how things are
going to run in the future. Well, the moment to begin is almost here.
The matches will be posted tomorrow on this newsgroup. Seeya then.
Thanks to everyone and now, come out fighting!

                                                    Nomad

                                               cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: SLAM JAM: WWF or WCW?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 17:56:09 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak) writes:

> As strange as it may seem, is it entirely out of the question that this could
> be a collaborative effort from both leagues? I mean, with all of the legal
> mumbo-jumbo in wrestking nowadays, what are the chances that both federations
> could come out with a wrestling album/video of the same exact name at the sam
> exact time?
 
Very slim...Again, with all the legal problems between Atlanta and Stamford 
odds are you'll hear something about lawsuits.
 
--Don

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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Perfect Insurance
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:07:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

MD(>What is this insurance everyone is talking about?

Mitch,
Hennig has a disability policy with Lloyd's of London that has been
paying him while he was out with his back injury.
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . A bird in the hand is better than one overhead.
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: the Torch
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:41:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.21NOV199219413958
Expires: Sat, 5 Dec 1992 09:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: sean@freds.cojones.com
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

In article <1992Nov14.155744.19643@cis.ohio-state.edu>, atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes...
[...]
>find out what 'the Torch' is.  Actually, he knows pretty much what it is.
>How can he get it?

Two things here.  First, it's amazing that for all the bandwidth that
has been expended over this subject, that I have yet to see anyone
actually post any information on the Torch.  Second, I seem to
remember a time on this newsgroup when people who extracted items out
of sheets and posted them to the newsgroup actually extended the
courtesy of a plug for the sheet that they were quoting from.

Now, for the information.  The Pro Wrestling Torch is a weekly news
and features sheet, was 12 pages last time I saw an issue (back in
January of this year) and is generally a good buy.  Note that this
information dates back to January, so someone can correct me here if
I'm wrong.

Pro Wrestling Torch
Wade D. Keller
P.O. Box 201844
Minneapolis, MN  55420
$5.00/4 issues

Also, Wade Keller does have an e-mail address on the Internet, but
it's very unlikely that you'll ever reach him that way.  However, if
you want to try, the address is wkeller@macalstr.edu.

Now, this brings me to my next point.  Who wants to do a regular sheet
listing here on the newsgroup?  Byron Howes did one in 1990 and I did
one last year.  However, I've not seen any sign of Byron around here
in recent months and I haven't the facilities at present to keep such
a list up-to-date.  Maurice and I did agree to review wrestling sheets
for Factsheet Five, but I haven't heard a word from Jerod Pore after
initially agreeing to do it.  This was at least 2 or 3 months ago if I
remember correctly.  Anyway, I will hope to hear from someone if they
are at all interested.

**********************************************************************
Sean Patrick Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan *** This account is expiring soon;
please direct all e-mail to sean@freds.cojones.com - thanks! *********
Oh, and did I ever tell you how much I want to fnord you?  :-) *******
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From: k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer)
Subject: Re: More new names!!!!
Organization: QRM Central
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:14:09 GMT

From article <23NOV199208460905@utarlg.uta.edu>, by b706zbh@utarlg.uta.edu (Darin Brown):
> Wrestling Name         Other Names             Real Name             Age/yrs pro
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Piper, Roddy           Hot Rod                      ??               3?/1?

I seem to remember Roddy's real name was given *somewhere* as
Roderick Toombs (not sure of the spelling).  Can anyone confirm
this?

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From: jbeverly@adobe.com (Jamie D. Beverly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: [WWF] Perfect as a face
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:14:16 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <9211192139.AA16840@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>, Otto Heuer #3
<ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> The Hairfarmer writes:
> 
> > How about that!!  Never in my life did I think perfect would ever
> > become a "good guy."
> 
> He's been a face in 95% of the matches I've seen him wrestle in.  I've
> still been trying to adjust to him as a heel.
> 
> 		--Otto "Hack Hogan" Heuer

I was amazed at how well he did the heel part. He was always such a good
boy in the Greg Gagne days. From what I understand, the heel part more
closeley suits his true personality though.

Jamie D. Beverly
Houston Oilers
Missing Tight End
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From: cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir)
Subject: SWL First Round Match-Ups
Summary: OK, so they're a little early...
Keywords: SWL, fantasy
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:19:39 GMT

       I know, I know. I said that I wouldn't have these ready until
tomorrow but, I just finished setting them up. So, without any further
ado, here they are:

SWL Heavyweight Championship Tournament
---------------------------------------

The Whizzkid vs Ragnarok

The Maui Mauler vs Rad Pit Bull

Bryan Lee vs the DreadLord

Feudstarter vs El Condor

Harbinger of Doom vs Arnold "the Vending Machine" Spaggs

Saintly John Walsh vs Captain Blood

The Tick vs Jack "the Ripper" Morandini


SWL Heavyweight Tag-Team Championship Tournament
------------------------------------------------

Ground Zero vs Rhythm Nation

Halloween vs Banzai

Midnite Riders vs Wildside

Annihilation receives first round bye

And there you have it. The matches are set to go. Just a couple of more
things before I let you go back to whatever you were doing. Feel free to
e-mail your oppnents threats(...in good fun, of course). Contact us for
the addresses of your opponents and have some fun with it. However, you
must run your threats, insults, and stuff through us first, as carbon
copies of your mailings. Any misuse of this system will result in
expulsion from the SWL. And unlike the other real federations, I don't
make you into referees 
Any questions, comments, or other stuff may be sent to us at these
addresses:

Corey Weir(NOMAD)--- cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
Karl Bruff(ARCHANGEL)--- kbruff@morgan.ucs.mun.ca

"There is only one way....o
Forget that up there...Just remember "There is only one way...our way."
From: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Chrispy WVR : Japan Supershow - Rumble in the Rising Sun
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:28:34 GMT
Reply-To: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios)
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Originator: chrispy@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu

I have a few beefs with this video.  First of all, does "Rumble in the
Rising Sun" make sense to you?  Is there a "in the land of the..." missing
in the title?

Now the matches and more beefs...

1) Brian Pillman/Z-Man/Tim Horner vs. Takayuki Iizuka/Kuniaki Kobayashi/
   Shiro Koshinaka

   A pretty standard 6 man fare.  One of the worst matches on this tape
   and it still gets a decent score.   **1/2

2) Jushin Liger vs. Akira Nogami for Liger's IWGP Jr. Heavyweight title

   CLIPPED!!  AAAAGGHHH!!!  Can't let those Japanese do that do-si-do
   crap, now can we?  I would give this match a good score from what I
   saw, but I don't score clipped matches.

3) Masahiro Chono/Masa Saito vs. Barry Windham/Arn Anderson
  
   Another beef, this time with the booker of this match.  Sure, the
   Horsemen won, but they made America looks dishonorable in the process.
   Herd would pull something like this.   **1/2

4) El Gigante vs. Big Cat

   The crowd goes NUTS when they see El Gigante.  Then they see him in
   the ring.  Here, Gigante does a suplex, which he apparently has never
   done as he takes almost a couple of minutes holding him in the ready
   position before executing.  Short match, thank goodness.  *

5) Rick and Scott Steiner vs. Hiroshi Hase/Kensuke Sasaki (title for title)

   This match was on Herb's RSPW tape for good reason.  Although it's
   obvious who will win, it's still a great match.   ****1/4

6) Sting vs. Great Muta

   See comments from Chrispy WVR : Great American Bash '89 - Glory Days.
   This time, we get an ending we can appreciate.  Heh heh...
   ***3/4

7) Ric Flair vs. Tatsumi Fujinami

   A pretty good match.  The ending was NOT controversial, as if it wasn't
   a Japanese wrestler that we had never heard of, the title change would
   have been allowed.  However, the shameless Americans in charge of WCW
   refuse to call it a legit win for Fujinami.  In a press conference
   afterward, Ric Flair does one of the most awful things that could ever
   be done, as he steals the belt from Fujinami, telling him to get it
   in America.  A good match marred by a pathetic ending.   ***1/2

Once you get over the subtle Japan bashing, this turns out to be a great
video.  Check this one out if you can find it.  Heck, seeing Arn Anderson
try on a Japanese robe with a dragon on the back while shopping with Flair
is cool by itself.

Grade : A-   ***3/4

I think I'll take some time off, like a week, before I jump into doing
more videos...


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When life serves you cottage cheese, the head of a goat, and corn shucks
on a silver platter, you're screwed...
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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Scorpio
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

CD>I kinda liked the Windham turn too. Yah, yah, I know, we all saw it coming,
  >come on! This is the first time where I've seen a face turn heel for a
  >*legitimate* reason. Hell, I'd've beat the shit out of Dustin, too, if
  >he'd cost me a title. Loved the chair attack, too! (Violence and mayhem, YES

CD>========================= Fluffy the Wonder Bunny ==========================

That heel turn was the only good part of the show.

BTW, I loved how they showed Paul Orndorff on the split screen during
the lottery drawing.  I never heard any of the announcers make mention
of him though.  Then again, they could have while I was asleep.
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . Do you watch wrestling or do you watch the Whiff?
                                                      
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: ckennedy@doc.helios.nd.edu (chris kennedy)
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
Keywords: Henning face wimpy
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:34:39 GMT

In article <P0s-r*MZ0@Birdland.UUCP> uunet!tension!birdland!andy writes:
>In article <visser.722054060@convex.convex.com>, Lance Visser writes:
>
>> 	In the opinion of some people anyway, it was Greg Gagne that was 
>> the Heel.  Little Gregge turned on Curt at the ten-team tag team tournament
>> I think.
>> 	Before that, Henning had Scott Hall as a tag partner for a while.
>> I never really thought much of him in the AWA before his turn.  He was
>> just another wimpy face without a personality (ala Brunzell, Martel, 
>> Zumhoff, Zenk....).
>> 
>
>Yeah, I agree with ya. What always cracked me up was the interviews with
>his old man "Iron" Mike Gilbert, who still played the monster heel even
>though he looked like Kriss Kringle. He was better as a heel.
>
>Maybe the face turn is simply because faces tend to show off more talent
>and wrestling than heels (witness Shawn Michaels. Stomp kick stomp kick. He
>can do better than that), and Vince wants to get wants to lose the 'roided
>monster look. Replacing UW with Henning? Kinda says it all.
>
 Curt's father is Larry " the Ax " Henning, who was a monster heel and did
look like Kris Kringle

chris
From: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Radio Commercial for SS last night.
Date: 18 Nov 1992 11:54:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



I had to laugh at the commercial I heard last night.  It was for the SS at
the Richield Coliseum.  Flair and Ramoan -vs- Savage & Warrior.  That aint
so bad.....  But the best part was, also on the card.....



LIGIEON OF DOOM!!!



They were never even scheduled on any of early card releases!!  Where the
hell did they pull that one out from??

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