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From: feldman@flash.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: New cat
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:40:28 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

Here are my experiences with cat introductions.  I have four, so I've tried
almost every combination.  (I'm also taking this opportunity to introduce my
cats.)

First we got Tom, an orange tabby male kitten.  We raised him to about 1-1/2 as an
"only cat".  Tom is also a shy, timid cat.  

Then we introduced Roxy, an adult (spayed) female.  We lived in a two bedroom
apartment and didn't feel that we had room for two litter boxes.  So, we gave them
each a food and water dish and placed them on opposite sides of the kitchen.  They
had to share the litter.  At first Tom intensely disliked Roxy, but he wasn't 
willing to risk confrontation, so if my memory is correct, he spent a few days
under the bed.  He would come out to eat and use the litter.  If the cats caught
sight of each other they would hiss and puff up their fur, and then one would 
leave the room.  They didn't even like to both be in the kitchen at the same time.
Then they slowly started to tolerate each other, and after a few weeks they were
wrestling, chewing on each other's heads (this is normal cat behavior.  they seem
to think it is fun.) and so forth.

A few months after we introduced Tom and Roxy we moved from MI to NY.  During this
time they spent time at my in-laws and in a hotel before we moved into our house.
No problems, even under these stressful situations.  It was interesting, since
before living with us Roxy had lived with my in-laws, so we were moving the two
cats from his turf to her turf.

AFter we'd been in our house a few weeks, we got Snooky, a few-month-old shelter
Maine coon look-alike male.  This time Tom didn't seem to mind the new cat,
and Roxy didn't care either, except when Snooky tries to jump on her.

A week after Snooky came home, we got Pepper, a male two year old "previously
owned" black cat, also from the shelter.  (We didn't bring him home with Snooky
because Pepper had a massive case of fleas and we had to wait for a chance to
get a flea dip.)  Introducing Pepper didn't even cause a ripple.  Snooky loved him
at first sight, and Pepper cleaned, cuddled, and played with Snooky.

We don't have any more cats, yet.  My husband always wants more, and I fear how
many we could end up with.  I don't have any idea which of my cats is dominant,
but I think it's either Pepper or Tom, since Snooky doesn't seem to be full grown
yet.  We never took any unusual steps when we introduced the cats.  We do try to
bring a new cat home on a weekend or vacation so that we can supervise in case
they really fight.  We've never had anything more than hissing and growling.  Our
biggest problem is that Roxy is very small and the boys sometimes jump her.  (Yes,
they are all neutered.)  She dislikes this intensely and will growl at them and 
run off.  Snooky is undeterred.

Sorry for the length of this post.
Sandy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,news.answers
From: edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington)
Subject: Squirming cats.... 
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:29:34 GMT

>they are _much_ easier to put into the eyes of a squirming cat. ;-)


	 I have been reading this group for a while, and have seen a few 
references like this. Whenever I need to do anything to my cats that they 
do not like, clipping nails, cleaning ears etc, In roll them up in a towel.
Of course the down side of this is that they do not like to see a towel 
comming, but it makes them much easier to control, and lessens the chance
of either of us getting hurt.
From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Sleeping with Cats
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:20:27 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

adb2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Amy! Blankenship) writes:

>roni.gunn@rose.com (roni gunn) writes:


>>Date Entered: 07-08-92 21:03
>>How many of you sleep with your cats?  Since we got Rusty Gunn as a 
>>kitten, we've had to shut him out of our room cuz he'll play with our 
>>feet and heads at night.

>>I was hoping that he would eventually outgrow this, but so far no 
>>luck.


I sleep with my *three* cats (-8  One of them is an 11-week old that I 
reared from a 3-day old.  She likes to play with my toes and my fingers
and my long hair.  At first it was annoying, but I did get used to
it.

I can't imagine having cats that didn't sleep with me.  Of course, I have
no choice since I live in a one-room place.

Ever try to herd cats?

Lauren
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: a breaking horror story
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:41:15 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.cats, HXKPY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Diana Gregory) writes:
>I only heard a part of this story - I couldn't
>listen to the rest.  It seems to be local to the
>Bay Area - right now - but I'm sending it out
>in case it's not going to prove local.
>
>The bit I heard on the radio coming in to work
>today was:
>
>The Santa Clara County Humane Society (I think
>that's who they said) is offerring a reward
>for information leading to the arrest of whoever
>was responsible for hanging 7 cats.
>
>Diana
>(shaking, sick, concerned, and PISSED OFF!)

It takes all kinds.  They had an article in out local paper about someone
hanging a dog from a swing set.  The humane society is trying to check into
that one also.  There are a lot of people who for whatever reason dislike
cats.  And that's fine.  Just leave them alone.  My five are house cats, but
when they are outside we are with them.

My son and daughter-in-law live in Santa Barbara, so I know they will keep
their Alex in the house after this.

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From: lswan@ucsd.edu (Swan, Lyn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Fur Mouse, was Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:11:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: card3.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Jul24.212411.5246@den.mmc.com> snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell) writes:
>From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
>Subject: Re: Fur Mouse, was Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
>Date: 24 Jul 92 21:24:11 GMT

>In article <1992Jul23.193118.1394@ncsu.edu> echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD CRAIG HYATT) writes:


>As far as I know, they are just called "Real
>Fur Mice" and if you cat(s) are anything like
>mine, you'll definitely need more than one.  At
>this point in time, I have a total of about 
>12 of the little suckers, but they are only
>allowed 2 at a time.  I think that they might
>be breeding under my refirgerator though.  :-)

>Check any pet store, I have only seen them
>at a few places in Colorado, mostly the little
>privately owned stores, not the huge warehouse
>type of stores (ie Pet Smart, Pet Foods Plus, etc).

I got my "real fur mouse" at PetCo (S. California).  It came in a 
little package & was with all the other kitty toys.  It cost about $
2.50.  I'm about ready for a new one as Poor Ole Furry is just about 
in shreds.  

Lyn &
Kate & Allie
From: smp@aquarius1.Berkeley.EDU (Susan M Painter x2001)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help! Need advice on adopting a cat( I GOT A CAT!!!!!)
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:36:39 GMT
Reply-To: smp@aquarius1.Berkeley.EDU (Susan M Painter x2001)
Distribution: na

In article <1992Jul30.114253.10342@cci632.cci.com>, agc@cci632.cci.com (Anupama Chathampally - co-op) writes:
|> 
|> 	Thanks for all the great advice!  Every reply I got said to go ahead 
|> and get cat.  Well, yesterday I decided to go to the humane society "just to
|> look"( You all know how that goes ) and I ended up taking home Sylvester. He
|> is black and white and cute all over.  He is seven years old.  When he got home
|> he explored all over.  Then I got on the bed and told him to come up.  He put
|> his front paws on the bed and and meowed like he was asking permission. I said
|> "Of course come on up".  He jumped up and walked over to me and laid down with
|> his front half on my chest and nuzzled me with his head while purring really
|> loudly.  Then he fell asleep on me. I'm so happy I can hardly stand it!!! I 
|> love my cat!!!! 
|> 
|>                   Anu and Sylvester ( happy together)


I love a happy ending!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington)
Subject: Re: Kitty toilet troubles
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:45:08 GMT

In article <14h061INNsuu@early-bird.think.com> fuhry@think.com (Debbie Fuhry) writes:
>................. "Grendel gifts" around the apartment.
>
   The only times that I get this is when I am on travel for a few weeks, 
   (the people that I have feed the cats don't do pans (I put a few in the 
   basement), and the pans get a little gross, the cats look for other places
   that aren't quite as bad ( kind of like being in an airport or bus station
   I guess). If they get mad at me (althought this rarely happens, generally
   this is tied to the above), also on thiose occasions when my angora has a
   "hairball" it looks like this at first.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Cat Buddies
Organization: CSU
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:58:49 GMT

Hi folks....
 
     Last night my Baxter figured out that when Mom's doing the laundry
and has the dryer hose vented out the kitchen window she can shove the
screen out of the way and get outside.  Now mind you, Bax is neutered and
declawed (no flames, please, she came that way) but is clueless about all
of this.  Near as I can figure she was out there about 4-5 minutes when I
heard the yowling and hissing.  Running into the yard I found her under
the neighbors car holding her own against 4 of the neighborhood toms.
(Feisty little snot - she's a 19-month old Calico.)
 
     Anyhow, once I chased the boys away and convinced her to come to me
she wanted to get back in the middle of the fray!  Guess that's a
calico for you.  So, what's my point....when I brought her back in and
was holding her to check her out for any damages, she howled as if I
were torturing her.  In a flash my Sophie the meatloaf-on-legs (7 year
old brown mackerel tabby, weighs in at about 16 lbs.) comes flying into
the kitchen all fur and spit, and proceeded to jump up on me and raise
hell, batting with her paws and showing her teeth.
 
     I've reprimanded Baxter before with no response from Sophie, except
for maybe a "some day you'll learn kid" look, but this caught me totally
off guard.  When I did put Bax down, Sophie sniffed her out and began
washing her from tip to toe.  Baxter just lay there with the reddest
nose I've ever seen on a cat, panting and flashing her tail.
 
     Any one else ever experienced this buddy system?  Don't get me wrong,
I love that the girls are so close, but this one threw me for a loop.
 
     A few reassuring words and some extra "Gramma Cookies" (aka Pounce)
settled us down for the night.  I'd be interested if others have had
similar experiences.
 
Beth
 
'n Sophie aka Mrs. Major Meatloaf
'n Baxter the Calico from Another Planet
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rms8340@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: <none>
Reply-To: rms8340@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:34:05 GMT

	Please help me...

	In November I introduced a little, old lady cat to our
	household.  The "king" of the house, Micio, has not come
	to terms with this yet.  We have tried to slowly introduce
	them to one another, but he tries to swat her at every
	chance he gets.  Twice we found her with a scratch on her
	nose and once with one of his nails embedded in her face!

	This problem is aggravated by the fact that she, Pallina,
	is over 12 years old, is DEAF, her sense of smell and sight
	are diminished, and she will not allow herself to be picked
	up and carried!! (She must have been in an accident because
	we can't touch her rump at all.  The vet said that X-rays
	probably won't turn up anything -- more about this on some
	other post).

	As it stands, Pallina has chosen a spare bedroom as her own.
	When we are not home or asleep we keep her door closed.  She
	has her food, water and litterbox in her room.  Things are
	somewhat better -- we can leave her door open and Micio will
	not go in her room 90% of the time; however, yesterday, her
	fur went flying again (I think they startled each other).

	She will not come downstairs and prefers to sleep all the time.
	She is sooooo tired.  How can I get Micio to stop terrorizing
	her?  How can I make her understand that she can wander around
	the house (I've tempted her in many ways)?  How can I make her
	understand that if she sleeps all the time HE is going to
	"surprise" her if her bedroom door is open?  Things would be
	so much easier if I could pick her up, but she is kinda senile
	and hisses and scratches on a whim too.  I've only just met
	her and she acts so old.  Sigh.

	I'm so afraid that Micio will hurt her badly.  Help me...

	Bobbie, the fearful.

	
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rivkin@watson.bms.com (Teresa Rivkin)
Subject: Re: kitty fences
Summary: Is there a fence that can keep a cat in?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:58:00 GMT

In article <adwright.711749461@vincent1.iastate.edu>, adwright@iastate.edu () writes...
>I want to fence a portion of my yard so the cats can not wander off.
>I thought about chain link with about 6 feet of chicken wire attached
>to the top and going straight back (horizontally) might do the job
>I doubt that they can climb upside down for six feet.
>Or can they?
> 
>Any success or failure stories would be appreciated.
> 
>Allen
> 

We recently moved into a house that has a fenced in back yard.  The yard in 
fenced in by a 6 foot wooden fence.  We had three episodes of an "escape" 
from the yard.  Arpeggio escaped twice, and his sister Fluffy escaped once.  
However, once they got out of the yard they got scared and followed the fence 
around to the front of the house and sat at the front door meowing to come in. 
Prior to us moving to this house, the cats were 98% indoor cats.  My husband 
would let them out occassionally, but only for very short periods of time and 
while he was sitting with them so he could make sure they didn't wander off.

It has been four months now, and except for the initial escapes from the yard, 
there haven't been any more.  Unfortunately, after this Friday the cats will 
not be allowed outside anymore so we won't have to worry about this.  Since 
they've been going outside, they are infested with fleas.  Both my husband and 
I do not like the thought of having fleas on them or in the house, so we are 
having our house bombed and the cats flea dipped.  Arpeggio could care less 
whether or not he's allowed outside, but his sister is not going to be very 
happy about it.  In the longrun, we'll all be better off though because they 
are miserable.  I've never seen them scratch at themselves so much.

Terri Rivkin
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Rivkin@bms.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jonathan@netcom.com (Jonathan Ridder)
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:57:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Ziggy, the cat that I share my house with, has only one toy that he will
play with - twist ties (those paper covered wires used to tie bread bags
and garbage sacks.)  He will bat one around indefinitely (or until it
gets stuck under a dresser or refrigerator.)  The last time I moved the
dresser in my bedroom I found about twenty of them under it.

-- 
 "I don't mind Tigger being in the Forest," Eeyore went on, "because it's    
 a large Forest, and there's plenty of room to bounce in it.  But I don't
 see why he should come into my little corner of it, and bounce there."
   A.A. Milne                                         jonathan@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,rec.gardens
From: louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu (FA) 
Subject: Re: flea control
Originator: louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu
Reply-To: louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu (Louise Penberthy) 
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:41:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.232230.325@riacs.edu> bradley@riacs.edu (Brad Christofferson) writes:
>We have two house cats, a medium-large backyard with a lawn, trees and
>shrubbery, and a small child who is past the crawling stage but still
>spends a lot of time on the carpet.  The flea population recently
>increased dramatically on the cats.  Flea dirt is all over the place
>in the house where the cats frequent.  We are going to vacuum and bomb
>the house with a precor based fogger, spray the yard with either
>Dursban or Sevin, and dip the cats.  I suppose we will have to do it
>all again in two weeks.

Did rec.pets.cats suggest Borax?  You sprinkle it on the carpet
and any nubby upholstery, and it dries out and kills the flea
eggs.  Non-toxic, cheap, and successful.

I, too, spent a lot of money on foggers and sprays and shampoos
and collars, all to no avail.  This in Atlanta, where fleas can
get horrible.  And they did.  Borax did the trick.

The procedure: vacuum your carpets and upholstered furniture
_thoroughly_, making sure to move all furniture and vacuum
underneath.  Sprinkle Borax on the carpets and on all furniture
with nubby (i.e., not smooth) upholstery.  Wait about a week
before resuming your regular schedule of vacuuming.  You will
notice the Borax underfoot for a while, but it gets worked into
the carpet.

After about two weeks (the life cycle of the flea), you should
notice a dramatic drop in the flea population, and after another
week you should have no problem.

One other note:  if you ever have your rugs steam cleaned, warn
the people who do it that you have Borax on the carpet.

Good luck.

-- Louise Penberthy

-- 
Louise Penberthy                |    "I don't care what you do with your
College of Computing/ Georgia   |     crayons.  Just don't call it art."
Tech/ Atlanta, GA 30332         |     	
louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu     |       -- Jess Anderson
From: tmp@eb2lobby.EBay.Sun.COM (Temps Account)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: why do cats....
Date: 22 Jul 1992 19:17:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
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NNTP-Posting-Host: eb2lobby.ebay.sun.com

In article 28058@linus.mitre.org, pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:
>I have a cat that is very people oriented and lovable.  She sleeps beside
>us everynight purring and purring.  
>
>She does have one habit that I find rather intriquing and I would like some
>ideas on why she does it.  During the early am (4am or so) she rubs her face
>against ousr and is very persistent. She then  either licks our faces or tries
>to put her mouth and nose into our mouths (again very persistent).  Since
>we are sound asleep when she does this, its rather startling.  What does it
>mean when she licks our faces and why does she want her head in our mouth?
>
>She is a little over a year old.



My cat does the same thing! He wakes up every morning right before dawn and
either nuzzles his nose against our faces or lick right under our nose.  If he
doesn't get the attention right away, he'll proceed to take his paw and tap
at my face.  Usually I hide my head under the covers and and he will leave, but
sometimes he'll even try to get me under the covers! It's halarious for awhile,
but then I start to get irritated because I still have 2 hours of sleep left.
I feel this is just for attention, Deacon is about 3 1/2 months old and
he still is pretty much a kitten when it comes to attention...he likes when
he wants it and not a minute before or after!

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Kitty Rituals
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:32:32 GMT

gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson) writes:
: Kinda likes to "help" my husband and I put our socks on in the morning.  She
: waits patiently until someone sits down and drapes a sock over her back.
: Then the "helping" begins.  Bulldozing our arms, sitting on our laps, and
: wandering off with the socks doesn't seem very helpful to me, but it makes
: her very happy.
: 
Yes!
Tris helps me get dressed in the morning, and socks are her favorite part, 
too.  She doesn't much like having a shirt or jeans thrown on top of her, 
though ( ;-) ).


Kathy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lmh44500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire)
Subject: Re: UPDATE: pregnant abused manx
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:30:08 GMT

I like the name Baby Blue.  I guess that kind of says it all.
			-Wildfire-


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: borgeb@stud.cs.uit.no (Boerge Berg Olsen)
Subject: Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:32:48 GMT

In article <s#cm9kf.ltao@netcom.com>, ltao@netcom.com (Lilly Tao) writes:


"] "Any other ideas for self-propelled cat toys?  I've tried toilet paper
"] "tubes,
"] "spools, and even a suction-cup cat toy that my roommate's mom sent us (I
"] "can't describe it -- it's like a boxing bag).  With each of these I've

Stuff deleted.


Well, rolls of toiletpaper are always fun, acording to my cat Cooper anyway.
One day I had forgotten to close the toilet door room. Since I have the toilet-
paper on a hook on the wall, with the loose end hanging down... When I arrived 
form work that day Cooper was lying in a heap of toilet paper totally
exhausted.
Looking at me with the look : Hey! This is great fun, you should try it.
Of course this is not the cheapest way to entertain a cat, besides you could
risk
get out of toilet paper when you need it the most... :)

Self-proppeled cat toys are not easy to make, because they are only fun
when they are new. They (the cats) seems to loose interest in the toys after a 
while, as if they get bored with it. They (the cats) alway manage to catch the
prey (read toy) and it gets boring. 

The most sucessive toy I have ever made, this is not self-proplelling though,
is just a simple tread of cotton. We (Cooper and I) can run all around the
house,
chasing the tread, that is Cooper chases me/the tread. This I have been doing
for
4-5 months now. The fun never stops.

One other toy I have mad is a 35-mm film box filled with rice (is this correct?
Very popular food in oriental parts of the world.:) This makes a rattling noise
which Cooper finds very amusing.
-- 
          \ Boerge Berg-Olsen  Email: borgeb@stud.cs.uit.no /  
          \\   "All those moments will be lost. In time,   // 
          \\\    like tears in the rain. Time to die."    ///  
          \\\\      -- Roy Batty, in Blade Runner.       //// 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: 6845400@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: My condolences
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:25:25 GMT

It really helps with the loss of a cat if you have others to help keep your
mind off of the recent loss, because then it doesn't hurt so much.  I just
recently had to put a 13 year old Boo Boo kitty to sleep she had a large tumor
that was making it impossible for her to eat or drink .

Kathy

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