From: pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ana M. Shane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.croatia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: WWII, again (was Re: Dr. Mishitch, the Bishop of Mostar)
Date: 25 Dec 92 05:17:04 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.croatia
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

arnsenad@me.utoronto.ca (Senad Arnautovic) writes:

>blazic@ecf.toronto.edu (BLAZIC Joseph R) writes:

>>>Local Serbs have right for self-determination, as Croats and Muslims
>>>does.  That is all what I defend.  If Muslims do not want to live
>>>in Yugoslavia, Serbs are not going to live in Muslim state. Same
>>>with Croats. Period.

>>How about a multi-ethnic state where their rights were secured by
>>virture of their large minority, and moderate government?  No good
>>either.

>To Milan. Why then stop in Croatia and B-H only? Why not give
>the right to self-determination in Serbia? If serbs do not want to
>live with B-H Mulsims and Croats and Croats in Croatia, why should
>Muslims and Croats in Serbia want to live with serbs? Therefore,
>Sandzak and Vojvodina should be taken out of Serbia.

Isn't it the other way around? Who started seceding from Yugoslavia?
It seems to me that the politicians and rulers of Slovenia then
Croatia, and then Bosnia were the ones who separated from Yu. All until
then, the so called "Serbs" didn't mind living together.

And if your answer is that Serbian rulers were dominant, so the politicians 
and rulers of other nationalities couldn't exercise their own domination,
please document this claim.

>Alternatively, let's leave the borders as they were in 1990
>and make sure that minorities anywhere have the same rights
>as the main ethnic group. No more rights, no less rights

Alternatively, why have borders at all? In a just country
there could be enough room for anyone, and the local warmongers
from all the sides would lose their current jobs and be fired.
That would be much less expensive (in money and more important
in lives), much more practical, much more economically sound,
and much healthier.

>The point is there will be always a minority somewhere on the
>other side of the border. The thing is to have law and order
>to make minorities feels safe and gradually work to the system
>of prevailing rights of an individual and the ethnic group.

And with no borders, there will be no minorities, only equal civilians,
able to undertake big enterprises founded on the solid market across
a roomy country with lots and lots of potentials.


>Senad H. Arnautovic

with the best wishes for the winter holidays and a big hope for
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Ana M. Shane                               pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu
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