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In rec.games.bridge, reha@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (reha.gur) writes:

> This hand came up at a recent flight A swiss:

> North:	K x x
> 	Q x
> 	A K Q x x x
> 	10 x

> South:	A Q J x
> 	A x x
> 	x
> 	A x x x x
	
> Opening lead 10 of diamonds (not journalist)

> The contract is 4 spades with silent opponents.
> How do you play the hand at IMPS?

> I realize that you might want to back the bidding to 3NT which has
> 10 tricks of the top, but I think 4 spades is a better contract.

Now how is it that 4 spades is a better IMP contract than an absolutely
COLD 3NT (NINE tricks off the top)?

Oh, I get it.  4 Spades is more challenging, in that sense better.

In any case, I'll play spade to hand, then heart toward the queen.

> reha gur

Gary J.
From: murat@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: bridge bookstores 
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:48:30 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Can anyone give addresses for good bookstores in Anaheim CA for buying
bridge books?  I will be in the area shortly and I will appreciate any
recommendations.

Thanks

Murat Genc
Dunedin, New Zealand  

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From: szhang@brahms.udel.edu (Shangyou Zhang)
Subject: Can you make it?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:13:46 GMT

I played this hand on okbridge (A hand of GPS, if wrong 
				please correct me):
S AKx
H KTx
D xxx
C A98x

S xx
H AQJxxx
D Qxx
C Tx

Pass(east)-p-1d-1N(*)  -p-4H-all pass.  (*) precision 1N, 16+ with D stoper.

The lead is CK.  Tell me your line of play.  Thanks.

sy (Shangyou Zhang, U of Delaware)

-------------
PS  When I played it, there were about 20 tables played it.  I hope one of
    those eighty people will not tell me how to play after knowing 4 hands.

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From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: bidding problem
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:56:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: apadravy.79182
Organization: Princeton University
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In article <1e9h4iINNcvh@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> doug@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Douglas Newlands) writes:
|In article <1e8q0vINN835@transfer.stratus.com: tnh@sw.stratus.com (Tim Hill) writes:
|:In article <9211160837.aa19948@Paris.ics.uci.edu>, kibler@turing.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dennis Kibler) writes:
|:> Playing 2/1 GF and no opposition how do you
|:> recommend bidding the following hands.
|:> 
|:> Opener:  KQxx,A,AQxxx,109x
|:> Responder: Ax,Qxx,10xx,AKQJ8
|:
|:     1D   2C (1)
|:     2S   3C (2)
|:     4C   4S
|:     6C   P
|
|It seems to me that opener is not strong enough to reverse and you are also in
|murky water saying 3C is still gf. I would have thought that it should start

(Here is where you wish you were playing relays ...)

I thought the idea of 2/1 was that shape could be shown without having to
worry about strength.  With that in mind, I might bid like this:

1D 2C
2S 2N (1)
3C (2)   3D (3)
3H (4)   3S (5)
4D (6)   6C (7)

(1) I would bid this way whether or not 3C is still game forcing.
(2) This should show opener as 4-1-5-3, or perhaps 4-0-5-4 or 4-0-6-3.
    Presumably not 4-2-4-3 ...
(3) Shape showing.  Have we agreed on clubs?  Probably.  Could responder be
    3-3-3-4?
(4) Since opener has already shown at most 1 heart, this should show a void
    or a stiff ace.
(5) cue.
(6) now what?  If clubs are trump, this should show A or K of diamonds the
    way I play.  Presumably if opener wanted to play in diamonds he would
    not bid this -- he would either cue or bid 5D.
(7) where are opener's points?  Assuming he has at least 13, then in the
    worst case he has a stiff ace and thus 9 points in diamonds/spades.
    If he has AKQ of diamonds, slam is there; same with KQ of spades and
    A of diamonds.  With K of spades and AQ of diamonds slam is on a
    finesse; same with KQ of spades and KQ of diamonds.  With K of spades
    and KQJ of diamonds, slam is there.  All these assume minimums and
    a somewhat wasted stiff ace of hearts, and opener may well have more.

(of course in reality I could see the slam being missed, esp. if the
partnership does not have their 2/1 agreements really down cold.)

ben
--

"Can't we all just get along?"
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From: altus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Altus)
Subject: Re: Problems from Portland
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:36:28 GMT

More than one person has written something to the effect of:
>>> 1. None vul. East dealer. You are West: AJ9542, T, Q7, AT32
>>>
>I would have opened 2S and avoided much of this mess.
>

you people are all either the worst bunch of result merchants i've
ever seen or the worst bunch of bidders i've ever seen.  hell, the
ACBL Club Series tells people who haven't played a hand in their
life to open this hand ONE spade!  i mean, if you want to play in
2S cold for six clubs, i suppose that's your right...


--steve altus



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From: henk@pdsf.ssc.gov (Henk Uijterwaal)
Subject: Re: Another alert problem
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:02:18 GMT

Lars Andersson) wrote:
 
+>I was asked for advice regarding a simple (?) question on the local club yesterday;

+>  S/EW     Axx
+>           QJxx
+>           -
+>           KQTxxx
+>   xxx             KQJx
+>   Kxx             ATxx
+>   AKTxxxx         Qx
+>   -               xxx
+>           Txx
+>           xx
+>           Jxxx
+>           AJxx
 
+>  The bidding;
+>  S        W        N        E
+>  P        1C(1)    3C(2)    D(3)
+>  P        3D       P        3H
+>  3S       P        4C(!)    D
+>  P        4D       P        P
+>  P
 
+> (1) 10-17 hcp, 0-4 spades, 3-5 hearts (!)

Interesting agreement, are EW playing Mini-major?

+> (2) agrement = preemptive with clubs, alerted and explained as 5+ spades and another
+>                5+ suit

Seems like a maximum for a preempt.

+> (3) Negative double

+> The director and I thought that North had committed an infraction when he bid 4C.
+> However, to judge what would have happened if N did not bid 4C was very difficult.
+> The board had been played at the other table (5D making 6). We decided to throw
+> the board out and give NS a 3 imp procedural penalty. Essentially NS lost 13 imps.
 
+> Any comments on the decision.

After 1C-3C-X, 3S would probably show a 5+ suit in a decent hand. North will either
pass or raise to 4S. With the alert, North knows that 3S is just a simple preference
into one of his suits and that South might very well have relatively short spades.
He is not entitled to use this information and thus 4C is an infraction.

Since, as you say, it is not clear what would have happened if north had passed
(anything between 3S, doubled, down 7 on a trump lead and 6D, made seems possible).
canceling the board and -3 imps for NS seems a reasonable. Even though EW play a weird
system, NS  should know their conventions. (And don't they have pre-alert cards and
suggested defence cards in Sweden?)

Henk.

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From: grove@triangle.Berkeley.EDU (Eddie Grove)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Freak hand. YBTJ
Date: 20 Nov 1992 02:37:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: triangle.berkeley.edu

In article <6251@tivoli.UUCP> taylor@foraker.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Eric Taylor) writes:
>|> Personally, I prefer a simple auction for these hands:

>|>      5C	    6C, as suggested by (I think) Eric Taylor. 

>Not me.  I don't like simple auctions. :-)

I think the reference is to me.  I have nothing against complicated
auctions, but I do think an opening 1-bid should show some defense.

The hand in question is reasonably likely to take NO tricks on defense,
and certainly can't be expected to provide 2, so I can't understand 
opening it with a 1-bid.

Eddie 
(Starts with an E, but not Eric, nor Ernie, nor ...)

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From: m36150p@kaira.hut.fi (Janne Veikko Petteri Kallunki)
Subject: Re: Some problems from the Finnish Pair Championships
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:46:27 GMT

Oops...I wrote to the problem 1 wrong deal but the situation is anyway same.
This was the deal I meant:

E/ALL
S (you)
AK5
Q742
T6
AQ62

E   S
2S  ?

What do you bid?
Is there any difference between these two hands?

>Problem 1
>N/NS
>W (you)
>KJ8
>KQJ8
>AJ4
>J85
>
>N   E   S   W
>p   p   2S  ?
>
>2S=weak 6 cards
>What do you bid?

-----
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p. home 4553831, work 1545182
"One-Two-Three-Four"
	-Dee-Dee Ramone
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: what does this double mean?
From: wallaced@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (David Wallace)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:10:09 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Centre, Victoria Uni. of Wellington, NZ.

   > Lefty opens 1C.  Partner bids 1D. Righty bids 1S. What do you do?
   > What would a double show in this position? [of course without
   > specific agreements]

   > What is the opinion of the netters?

Playing acol, I try to persuade my partners to use a double after
1C-1S or 1D-1S to mean exactly what a 1H response would mean without
interference, namely 6+pts and 4+ hearts. All other responses can then
retain their natural meaning. The exception is those 6-9pt hands that
contain neither 4 hearts nor 4 card support for partner. With a spade
guard, I'd bid 1NT (possibly also 1NT on some hands WITH support for
opener's minor). Without a spade guard, I'd probably stretch to 2 of a
minor with 8+pts, and pass with 6 or 7. I reckon the pass is OK, since
partner gets another bid, so we're not missing anything if he's
maximum.

I like to play all other doubles from responder's seat (ie NOT 1C-1S-X
or 1D-1S-X) as positive: any shape with 10+ high card points. This
enables one to be quite aggressive with weak shapely hands, and
doesn't really cost. The rationale behind doing things differently
over 1S is that most commonly, if the opponents have a spade fit,
you've got a heart fit which is best found quickly.

I too would value the opinions of all other netters.

Dave.
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From: taddiken@ms.uky.edu (scott taddiken)
Subject: Which inference is better, WAS - "finesse or play for the drop"
    <lgfm84INNk2u@cypress.cs.utexas.edu>
Summary: How strong does point info have to be to overcome distr. info?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:12:37 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <lgfm84INNk2u@cypress.cs.utexas.edu> varvel@cs.utexas.edu (Donald A. Varvel) writes:
>
>I once got a good score in an instant matchpoints game when my partner
>failed to make an obvious weak jump overcall.  The information that he
>had 6 spades and I had 2 was enough that the booklet commentator thought
>it obvious to play me for Qxx of hearts which in fact I held.  I'm not
>sure why, but I'm much more likely to use distributional information
>than weak inferences on high cards.
>
This brings up a point which has bothered me from time to time.  I find it
relatively easy to figure out how "strong" distributional info is: i.e.
"lefty seems to have 5 or 6 hearts, which leaves righty 3 or 4, which makes
the odds 6-3 or 5-4 that lefty holds the queen."  But what if righty is assumed
to hold, say, 11 of the missing 15 points?  What are the odds like now?

The reason I did not state the problem precisely is that I'd like to pose it
as a general question, hoping to get general answers.  I suppose I could
carry out a simulation or calculation, but are there shortcuts?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott Taddiken, University of Kentucky
From: tnh@sw.stratus.com (Tim Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: bidding problem
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:41:35 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbootay.sw.stratus.com

In article <9211160837.aa19948@Paris.ics.uci.edu>, kibler@turing.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dennis Kibler) writes:
> Playing 2/1 GF and no opposition how do you
> recommend bidding the following hands.
> 
> Opener:  KQxx,A,AQxxx,109x
> Responder: Ax,Qxx,10xx,AKQJ8

     1D   2C (1)
     2S   3C (2)
     4C   4S
     6C   P

     (1) game forcing
     (2) still game forcing


                                    Tim
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From: bridge@ocf.berkeley.edu (The web)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge,ucb.general
Subject: Cal Bridge Club
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:19:26 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu

	The Cal Bridge Club meets every Thursday at 6:00 PM in room
2523 Tolman.  All who are interested in playing, or learning to play
bridge are welcome.

	Please note that we have a new e-mail address.

	Questions?  Respond to this account.

					Micah Fogel
					Cal Bridge Club
					bridge@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: what does this double mean?
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:42:37 GMT
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA

In article <1992Nov16.205656.3270@wuecl.wustl.edu> geppo@spot.wustl.edu 
(Giuseppe Bianchi) writes:


> > you hold QJx, QJT9x, x, KTxx. Both red, matchpoints. 
> > You pass. Lefty opens 1C.
> > Partner bids 1D. Righty bids 1S. What do you do? 
>
> > What would a double show in this position? [of course without
>   specific agreements]

To me, a double is a responsive double only if RHO has raised LHO's
suit.  This is the "usual" way to play it, I believe, and I would play
it that way if we hadn't discussed it beforehand.  These are
responsive, for the unbid suits:
    LHO   Partner  RHO  You             LHO   Partner  RHO  You         
    1C    double   2C  double           1C      1S     2C  double       

Some people also use responsive doubles after RHO bids 1NT.  I don't
know whether anyone uses responsive doubles after (1C) 1D (1S).

So in this case, double would be penalty, showing good spades, unless
you're playing Rosenkranz (double shows diamond support and one of the
top three honors).

With the actual hand, I'd pass.  With a different hand and good
hearts, I might bid 2H on my own, but in this case your club honor is
badly placed and you have a stiff in partner's suit.  I might get a
chance to bid hearts later, and if I don't, it's probably not our hand
anyway. 

                                -- Adam
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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: bidding problem
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:38:32 GMT

adam@irvine.com (Adam Beneschan) writes:


>> Playing 2/1 GF and no opposition how do you
>> recommend bidding the following hands.
>>
>> Opener:  KQxx,A,AQxxx,109x
>>
>>
>> Responder: Ax,Qxx,10xx,AKQJ8
>>
>> dennis

>This is tough.  How about:

>        1D     2C
>        2S     3C
>        4C     4S
>        6C

>The first three bids are clear.  3C is better than 3D, I think.

What about 2N?  I agree that the first three bids are (fairly) clear
(although I could see bidding 3C instead of 2S), but the 3C call could
also be 2N or 3D.  2N allows opener to show club preference at the
3 level.
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
               		This time, *with* the oys
From: olle@astro.uu.se (Olof Morell)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: what does this double mean?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:03:37 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Nov16.205656.3270@wuecl.wustl.edu>, geppo@spot.wustl.edu (Giuseppe Bianchi) writes:
|>    > you hold QJx, QJT9x, x, KTxx. Both red, matchpoints. 
|>    > You pass. Lefty opens 1C.
|>    > Partner bids 1D. Righty bids 1S. What do you do?  
|> 
|> And followed with a much more (IMHO) interesting question:
|> 
|>    > What would a double show in this position? [of course without
|>      specific agreements]

Well, playing what here is called "Modern doubles" all doubles in
these kind of positions show the unbid suit(s) and at least semi-support
of overcallers suit. This helps solving an otherwise impossible
problem: how to find a 4-4 fit when bids show a five-carder.

Any decent player here would agree to this bid.

In fact, the only penalty double I play on low level (except after
NT opening or RD), is after e.g. (1C)  D  (1H)  D now is for penalty,
or at least it shows hearts. Gets rid of lots of phyches.

*** Olle ***
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Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
From: ttllarsa@eua.ericsson.se (Lars Andersson)
Subject: Re: Some problems from the Finnish Pair Champi
Reply-To: ttllarsa@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:36:42 GMT

In article 17820@nntp.hut.fi, m36150p@kaira.hut.fi (Janne Veikko Petteri Kallunki) writes:
>Results:
>1. Backstrom-Backstrom 61.6 %

High percentage here...

>35. Kallunki-Lehtonen 47.6 %
Must have been unlucky.

>
>Problem 1
>N/NS
>W (you)
>KJ8
>KQJ8
>AJ4
>J85
>
>N   E   S   W
>p   p   2S  ?
>
>2S=weak 6 cards
>What do you bid?

2N, natural 15+-18. At pairs you might pass and hope for +200.


>
>Problem 2
>E/EW
>E (you)
>QT
>A9532
>KJ5
>KJ4
>
>N   E   S   W
>    1H  2D  D (take out)
>2S  p   p   D
>3C  p   3D  D
>p   p   3H  D
>p   p   3S  D
>p   p   p
>
>What do you lead?

A spade. Haven't decided about the queen or ten. Think I prefer the ten.

>
>Problem 3
>E/-
>N (you)
>KQ5
>AKQJ
>5
>Q8643
>
>N    E    S    W
>     1S(1)p    p
>D    2D(2)D    p
>?
>
>(1)=0-11 points, free hand
>(2)=5 cards
>
>What do you bid?

What are my methods? Anyhow, if a singleton diamond is possible with me I pass.
Otherwise 3D, forcing to game. If partner bids 3S I try 3N.

>
>Problem 4
>E/EW
>S (you)
>K732
>98
>QT64
>752
>
>N   E   S   W
>    1C  p   p
>D   3NT p   p
>D   p   p   p
>
>What do you lead?
>

A small spade. On the auction it is possible that opener is 2317, 3217 or 3307, but
partner might have tried 1D with a good suit. With a good hand (14+) and a 5+
major he might double first.

--lars
From: tnh@sw.stratus.com (Tim Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
Subject: Re: Can you make it?
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:52:40 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbootay.sw.stratus.com

In article <Bxy0yy.1ow@news.udel.edu>, szhang@brahms.udel.edu (Shangyou Zhang) writes:
> ...
> S AKx
> H KTx
> D xxx
> C A98x

> S xx
> H AQJxxx
> D Qxx
> C Tx

  W    N    E    S
            P    P
  1D   1N*  P    4H
  P    P    P

> (*) precision 1N, 16+ with D stoper.

Gee.  Too bad you weren't playing Texas.  You could have kept the alleged
16+ and the alleged diamond stopper hidden.

BTW, why no 2H opening?

> The lead is CK.  Tell me your line of play.  Thanks.

Well, the only hope I see is that we can establish a second club before West
dares to attack diamonds.  Suppose the full deal (no, I haven't seen it) is
something like:

               S AKx
               H KTx
               D xxx
               C A98x
     S QJxx              S xxxx
     H xx                H xx
     D KJxx              D Axx
     C KQJ               C xxxx
               S xx
               H AQJxxx
               D Qxx
               C Tx

If West thinks we have the DA rather than the HA, he'll lead anything but
diamonds until East gets a chance to signal or we reveal that the hearts
are solid.  (Notice how we cleverly concealed the quality of our hearts by
not opening 2H!)  So, we win trick one and continue clubs.  If East wins and
shifts to diamonds, we go down.  If West wins and tries to cash another club,
we make.  If West wins and exits with a trump, we run it to the Q (East holding
up his "ace"), enter dummy with a spade, and ruff a club.


                                    Tim
Newsgroups: rec.games.bridge
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Subject: Would you re-open?  (Problem from Jeff Rubens' book)
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:46:48 GMT

Matchpoints, none vul.  You hold: T9xxxx,x,-,xxxxxx
The auction:

LHO	P	RHO	Y
===	=	===	=
1D	p	1H	p
3H	p	p	?

Please don't say WTP.  Rubens maintains that if you don't bid 3S here,
you should go back to Canasta.  I maintain that it depends on the field.

Please answer the following questions:

	1) Does the quality of the field affect your decision?
	   (If no, goto end)
	2) Do you bid 3S in:
		a) A very weak field (your usual club game)
		b) A weak field (say, a sectional)
		c) A good field (regional)
		d) A very good field (one of Asya's home games)

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I've been told to back off on the diode jokes, but I still don't
like smileys ;-)

	- pynq@quads.uchicago.edu, who is still costing the net
	  hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars, every time he posts -
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From: jbaron@higgs.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Subject: Re: Bidding over preempts - assess the blame
Reply-To: jbaron@higgs.ssc.gov (Jeff Baron)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Lab
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:56:50 GMT

In article <9211201045.aa11854@Paris.ics.uci.edu>, 
			kibler@turing.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dennis Kibler) writes:

-  >Assess the blame.
- 
- >North: KQ7xx,  86x,   KQ6,  J7
- >South: Ax,     AKJx,  xxx,  A8xx
- 
- >West  North  East  South
- >pass  pass   3D    pass
- >pass  pass
- 
- Here's what i would do:
- 
- 
-    p     p*  3d  X**                *2 spades if non-vul
-    p     4S  p   p                           ** Life is tough
-    p

Life is tough alright, and those that live by the sword die
by the sword.  That's true both of those people that open 3D on
5 to the ten, and those that double, *especially* at the 3 level,
without support for the other two suits, and without the
strength to make another call.  

Sometimes you get screwed, you know; that's the game.

I'd pass with the South had, but I'd bid 3S with the North hand.
Where does that get you?  Perhaps back to 4S, as I'd probably
still be sitting at the table (as South) after the 3S call.  
But I would *never* double 3d.

--
Jeff Baron
jbaron@gauss.ssc.gov
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From: rudy@netcom.com (Rudy)
Subject: Re: Problems from Portland
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:03:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.222035.24650@netcom.com> rudy@netcom.com (Rudy) writes:
>>2) The ACBL Club series tells to open 1H with Kx, AQJTx, QTx, KJx. 
>
>Are you having conceptual difficulty or a language one?  The club series
>tells you to open this hand 1H.  If it had 1 more jack, you would open
>it 1 NT.  What's your point?

Just to clear up what happened here -- Club series tells you to open
16-18 point hands 1NT if they are balanced.  So this is in fact a 1NT
opener  (I had seen it as a 14 count originally).


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From: davidm@questor.Rational.COM (David Moore)
Subject: Re: Possibly FAQ - "finesse or play for the drop"
Organization: Rational
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:37:45 GMT


>>Or how
>>about a negative inference -- you get into the 21 HCP game on the
>>auction 1S-pass-4S-all pass and therefore assume that lefty holds
>>fewer than about 12 HCP?  Is that enough to change the line?

Did not lead a trump hey? On this bidding, a trump is often a good lead.
The fact that one was not lead tends to suggest LHO has the Queen.

With Qx, he may also try for a promotion. On the particular bidding,
you have nothing to go on here, but suppose the bidding was:
1S 2C 2S 4S and a high club is lead. You would now suspect Qx on your left.

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