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From: rorden@icon.com (Randy Rorden)
Subject: Re: SCSI vs fast SCSI
Organization: Icon International, Inc.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 21:39:01 GMT

In article <2178@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM> gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall) writes:
>In article <Bt8qxv.JyD@acsu.buffalo.edu> lps@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Lawrence P. Schnitzer) writes:
>
>>FAST SCSI-2 has a maximum transfer rate of 10 MBytes/sec over the bus
>>as opposed to 5 MBytes/sec for SCSI.  Note that you'll never achieve
>>either of these rates - they're maximum rates.  Also, I don't think that 
>
>That's not true. You might not see these rates with off the shelf disk
>drives, but SCSI and SCSI-2 can most definately hit these maximum rates.
>Off the shelf disk drives are not the only SCSI peripherals.
>

Another often-overlooked reason why FAST SCSI-2 may be worthwhile is in
multiple drive configurations on the same SCSI bus in systems which
support disconnect/reconnect and/or tagged queueing.  With 10 MBytes/sec
transfer rates, each drive spends less time on the bus, allowing more
drives to share it without performance degradation.


Randy Rorden                 rorden@icon.com
Engineering Director
Icon International, Inc.     PHONE: (801) 225-6888
Orem, Utah 84057	     FAX: (801) 226-0651


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Randy Rorden                 rorden@icon.com
Hardware Development Manager
Icon International, Inc.     PHONE: (801) 225-6888
Orem, Utah 84057	     FAX: (801) 226-0651
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: Frank Hoffmann <fh.pad@sni.de>
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542B, Exabyte 8mm, and Me.
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:19:48 GMT

kenw@teal.csn.org (Ken Waletzki) writes:

>I need some backup software known to work with the Adaptec 1542B, 
>an 8mm Exabyte Drive, and Ms. DOS.  I have tried a few PD tar
>packages for DOS and it seems to start working ok, but after writing
>an undertermined amount of data to the drive I get varing error 
>messages.  I know the drive works, cuz it used to work on a MIPS
>workstation just before I moved it to this ISA 486 Ms. DOS box.

We use SIXTUS tape backup software from SLOT IX here. It came free with
the Exabyte, but is copyrighted. It works in local as well as in a net-
work environment (NOVELL 3.11). It's not very handy, but if you're badly
in need of a cup of coffee it'll do it's job (yaaaaawn :-))

Address of SLOT IX is:          SLOT IX
				Box 255
				DK-3600 Frederikssund
				Denmark
				FAX: (+45) 4738 4028

Alternatively to this there is something out called TapeWare which recently
released a new version. I haven't seen it 'til now, but i've heard that it
will work with an ASPI4DOS.SYS > v3.0 (3.3, i think). So i'm not sure if
it works.

>Any clues anyone -- also does anyone know an email address for Exabyte?

No, sorry,

>-- 
>Ken Waletzki Consulting, 2525 Arapahoe #E4-107, Boulder, Colorado  80302
>303-494-8953, email kenw@csn.org

frank
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: 8mm video tape (EXABYTE)
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:34:02 GMT

In <1992Aug14.232357.7208@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
| On 8mm and DAT, you can start writing at:
| 	a.	The beginning of the tape.
| 	b.	The end of the written part of the tape (End of Data EOD)
| 	c.	At the leading side of a filemark. (BOT side)

Wrong.  It is corect for 8200, but not for DAT or 8500.  8500
allows writing at EOT side of filemark, and most DAT drives will
overwrite at ANY position on the tape, with the proviso that when
you stop writing and rewind, space, etc., that position becomes
the new EOD (i.e., you can't do DECtape style filesystems on tape,
unless you want them readonly).

Also, b is true for 8200's only if long filemarks are used, otherwise
you get only a and c.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel)
Subject: Re: SCSI Tape Backup for OS/2 - Babe in the Woods
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:09:39 GMT

In article <4762@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum) writes:
>I have never used a tape backup in any system; neither have I ever
>used a SCSI device in any system. I assume I want a tape backup that
>will daisy chain off the SCSI adapter, rather than running off a floppy
>connector; specifically, I want a drive that can work with Adaptec's
>ASPI driver. I'll be backing up a 340MB drive on a single user system
>fairly frequently, which means I'd like good performance, but I don't
>need the same level as someone backing up a large LAN on a daily
>basis. I'd prefer to be able to get the entire backup on a single
>cartridge, but I won't mind splitting it up over multiple ones if I
>can save more than a few pennies by doing so. 
>
>Can anyone recommend tape drives to consider and those to avoid? Can
>anyone suggest any features to look for in evaluating different drives?
>What price range am I talking about here (I said "babe in the woods"
>and I meant it :-) )?

I can recommend Tandberg Streamers. Since about two weeks I use a
Tandberg 4120 SCSI-2 streamer on an Adaptec 1542B controller with the
GTAK software. Works fine. The streamer uses DC-9100 1/4" cartridges
holding 1GB each (but can read and WRITE any 150MB ... 525MB
cartridge). Performance is good, 12MB/minute nominal, I measured about
10.5...11 MB/minute in real use. Compared to that damned old Colorado
DJ-20 that I have used before, it is 2.5 times faster and much more
silent.

If buying another drive, make sure it is SCSI-2!!! This is important,
because SCSI-2 drives provide commands for direct access to specific
blocks on the tape. This makes retrieving single files off an 1GB tape
possible.

Kai Uwe Rommel

/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams

Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Exabyte 8500C?
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:00:14 GMT

In article <9297@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> km@mathcs.emory.edu writes:
>Does anyone know when the Exabyte 8500C is actually going to ship? Its been
>along time since it was announced.

    And I've had one for a long time.  Got a couple of 8205s too!

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
From: champ@ztivax.UUCP (Manfred Vorwalter)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: 8mm video tape (EXABYTE)
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:01:35 GMT
Reply-To: champ@ztivax.UUCP (Manfred Vorwalter)
Distribution: inet
Organization: Siemens AG in Munich, W-Germany


 I'm trying to program an file-archive based on an 8mm video tape
(EXABYTE). The actual system is a SUN IPX running SunOS 4.1.2. I have
problems using the device driver.

SunOS reference manual says ( mtio(4), paragraph Write Operation ):

... Writing is allowed on 1/4" tape at either the beginning of tape or
after the last written file on the tape. Writing is not so restricted
on 1/2" and 8mm video tapes. ...

In my opinion this sounds as if it is possible to override files
anywhere on the tape. But trying to override files either at the end
of the media or in between fails. So I found the same functionality as
a 1/4" streamer tape provides.

Is there any solution to this problem? Has anyone solved an analogous
problem on a SUN?

If there is no solution, can someone explain me why. Has anybody
general information about video tapes as storage medium. Is there any
good literature?

Does anyone know another hardware platform or device driver which
supports the complete functionality of a video tape.

If You have any information about my problem please send mail to:
	champ@ztivax.zfe.siemens.de

Thanks
Werner Mossner
From: lps@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Lawrence P. Schnitzer)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: FAQ: where to get ANSI SCSI docs
Keywords: scsi
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:13:18 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo / CEDAR Research Group
Originator: lps@fomalhaut.cs.buffalo.edu


In article <9223111.6781@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, apeel@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Andrew Peel) writes:
|> Hello,
|> 
|> I know that this has been asked before, but I hope someone can still help
|> me. 
|> 
|> Where can I get the ANSI SCSI-2 and ANSI SCSI-CAM standard specifications?
|> Can I get them by mail order from the US? Otherwise, I am going to
|> the west coast of the US next week, so I could buy them over the counter.
|> 

You can get the latest revision of the SCSI-2 spec (revision 10h, Nov 11, '91)
from Global Engineering Documents Inc.  800-854-7179 (inside U.S.) or 
714-261-1455 (outside U.S.)

-Larry
From: jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: 1542A & 1542B Differences ?
Keywords: 1542A  & 1542B  Differences ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:46:02 GMT
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

afv@eng.cam.ac.uk (Frans Volschenk) writes:

>I can get hold of an un-used 1542A at a very good price.  Are there
>many differences between that and the 1542B ?  This is for use in an
>EPSON 386 with an embedded IDE controller, and I have been told that
>the only SCSI controller that would work is the Adaptec 1542B - Is this
>right ?

while its true motherboard config can have a negative relation ship
with the 1542a, it will quite likely work. the 'a' is an older product
and no longer manufactured, but i have a 1542a that i used here for
misc testing and it works with a number of systems quite nicely.

you may want to examine the dma speed parm and adjust it to get the most
from your controller. the default 5mb/s can go higher. 

good luck, jack...
=============================================================================
 Jack Craig      Microport SVR4      408-438-UNIX        uunet!mport.com!jack   
=============================================================================


>Any reply would be appreciated.


>Frans Volschenk

>afv@eng.cam.ac.uk
>afv@uk.ac.cam.eng (JANET)
From: arivero@mothra.cns.syr.edu (Angelo Rivero)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: switching SCSI controllers
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:16:05 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

I just got a Adaptec 1522 controller to replace my Future Domain.  I am
running a 330 meg Micropolis drive, partitioned into 7 drives (Im an
organization freak) using Dos 5.  When I boot from my Adaptec, to the hard
drive I get a "missing operating system" message, although flipping back to
the Future Domain it works fine.  When I boot from floppy, I can only access
the C: partition (Dos primary active) , and Fdisk reports that the rest of
the space is in a extended dos partition but it doesnt find any logical drive. Again flipping back to the Future Domain , it all works fine.   I tried putting
a Quantum 210 SCSI in, and I got the same error about missing OS, although it
was all in 1 partition so I couldnt examine the partitioning problem. I 
repartitioned and reformatted the drive and now it will boot up fine.  
But, I have 300 megs of stuff on my Micropolis, how can I get it to work
w/o repartitioning and formatting it???

In case I cant, I also have a problem hooking up the Micropolis & Quantum
at once on my Future Domain. I set Micropolis to Scsi 0 lun 0 and Quantum
to Scsi 1 Lun 0, and it recognizes both (SCSI bios does that is), and then
proceeds to boot off the Micropolis, but then I cant access the Quantum. 
What am I doing wrong? (when i flip addresses, I can use the Quantum but
not the Micropolis)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: cjohnson@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Christopher Johnson)
Subject: St-225N, SCSI controller cards and Terminators.  HELP ME...Please.
Summary: I'd like info on terminators and scsi
Keywords: SCSI ST-225N
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:39:02 GMT

Hello all,

I recently got give an ST-225N Mac 20Meg SCSI Hard Drive.  I have the info on configuring it,
when installing on a scsi chain, but I am yet to set up any scsi stuff in my computer.

I belive SCSI can handle 7 drives and it needs a terminator at the end of the chain.
I also believe that many drives these days have a scsi terminator in them if they are the last
drive.
Again I believe that in older drive this terminator is in the form of one or more resistor packs.

On the underneath of my ST-225N there are three empty resistor pack slots.  Is this where the
terminating resistor packs go?

If so Could ANYONE PLEASE tell me what packs I am looking for ( or tell me to give up and try and
find a terminator all by itself ).  

The answer to this my decide whether or not I buy a CD-ROM with scsi and setup the CD drive as
the last drive, thus eliminating the need for the hard disk to terminate the chain.

While we are talking about CD-ROMs and their SCSI controller, does anyone know of any drives to
avoid, due to suspect/non-standard controllers?

Also I believe that Although the Sound Blaster Pro has a non-standard scsi port for its CD-rom
drive, it can be converted to standard.  Is this true, or is it just an ugly rumour?

While we are on the subject of Sound Cards and their SCSI controllers, does anyone know of a card
with a standard SCSI port that they trust for all SCSI drives?

Thanx for taking the time to read this post, and thanx in advance for any replies,

Chris.
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cjohnson@tartarus.uwa.oz.au | | Sudden decompression Sux| |Segmentaion fault
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: astsloke@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Device Drivers for the Adaptec AH1542B
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:55:55 GMT

Subject:  OS/2 2.0 Device Drivers for the Adaptec AH1542B

In comp.periphs.scsi rlynx@netcom.com (Roger Lynx) writes:

>I came across two *different* OS/2 2.0 drivers for 1542, one with date
>6/10/92 the other with 7/2/92. Both were downloaded from hobbes, ADAPTEC BBS.
>The earlier works okay, the July version locks-up machine in the least
In comp.periphs.scsi rlynx@netcom.com (Roger Lynx) writes:

>I came across two *different* OS/2 2.0 drivers for 1542, one with date
>6/10/92 the other with 7/2/92. Both were downloaded from hobbes, ADAPTEC BBS.
>The earlier works okay, the July version locks-up machine in the least
>expected
>moments. In a  light of the fact my 340MB doesn't boot anymore, I want to get
>1.3GB drive to replace it. Will the 6/10/92 version support drive that size?
>thanks for input.

I was informed by the local IBM OS/2 Support that the AH1542B is supported by
OS/2 and will work without a driver with OS/2.  So why is there a need for a
driver? Is OS/2 support limited to INT13H operations?  Will using the driver
provide me with better performance?

I have just upgraded the ROMS on my AH1542B to support drives above 1GB.
The enclosed instruction sheet says that OS/2 is not aware of the extended
translation. Will the OS/2 Driver take care of this?

Anyway, I would like to get hold of these OS/2 drivers.  Unfortunately,
it seems the only way to do this is to dial in to the Adaptec BBS in the
US.  Is there any ftp site carrying distributable Adaptec software &
utilities?

Any help will be appreciated.

Regards,

T.S. Loke
Nanyang Technological University
Singapore
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From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CD-Rom & Adaptec 1542b
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:06:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <1992Aug20.162205.8616@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> lemieux@eecg.toronto.edu (Guy Gerard Lemieux) writes:
>astsloke@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes:
>
>
>>The problem with Adaptec is, I find, that I have to buy driver after driver
>>after driver ad nauseam.  First I bought the SCSI Bus master Kit.  I bought 
>>Why do I get the feeling that I'm sinking in a Money Pit?
>
>Here, here!  I wish they (SCSI vendors) would get their act together
>and determine standards!  And device drivers should be provided for FREE.
>We paid for them when we bought the card/device!  (You can't tell me the
>Adaptec card costs more to manufacture than my i486 motherboard, yet
>my i486 motherboard is < 1/2 the price (sans CPU, of course)!)

Your wish is granted!... Well, sort of...

In the OS/2 world, the drivers are called LADDR drivers.  This stands for
something like "LAyered Device DRivers".  There are generally 2 or 3 layers
of drivers for a SCSI device.  The lowest level, the BID ("Bus Interface
Driver"), is provided by the manufacturer of the SCSI adapter card.  The next
layer up, the TSD ("Type Specific Driver"), is provided by those that brought
you OS/2, and contains generic drivers for CDROMS, Jukeboxes, disk drives,
tape drives, etc.  The highest layer, the VSD ("Vender Specific Driver") is
provided by the manufacturers of the actual devices on the SCSI bus.

There can be multiple TSD's attached to a BID, and multiple VSD's attached
to a TSD, and multiple BIDS.

		VSD1--\
		 .     \----TSD1---\
		 .     /     .      \----BID1--\	
		VSDn--/      .      /     .     \
                VSD1--\      .     /      .      \
                 .     \----TSDn--/       .       \---PC Adapter card.
 		 .     /     .            .
		VSDn--/

Whenever you try to access a SCSI device, the request is passed to the top
layer(VSD), which either processes it or passes it down to the next layer(TSD),
which either processes it or passes it down to the bottom layer(BID), which
either processes it or passes it to the SCSI bus.

I wrote a couple of LADDR drivers for a client once, and the technique works
quite well.  It certainly handles the problem of having conflicting device
drivers, from different manufacturers trying to use the same SCSI card.

It's a shame that that there isn't a LADDR standard for MSDOG.  I really
hate using OS/2.

OBTW, Adaptec and Western Digital, and IBM have had BID's for their SCSI cards
for years now, Microsoft wrote all of the CDROM, harddisk, floppydisk, tape
drive and Jukebox TSD's, and wrote VSD's for Toshiba CDROMS.  This is all
bundled with OS/2.

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
C.F. Harris - Consulting
chuck@eng.umd.edu
From: mvickers@orca.fhcrc.org (Mark Vickers)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: 1542B Synchronous/Asynchronous
Keywords: 1542B
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:35:42 GMT
Organization: Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, Seattle

In article <805@admin.mport.COM> jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig) writes:
>dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh) writes:
>
>>For the Adaptec 1542B to simultaneously handle a scsi hardrive running
>>synchronous (Quantum LPS 240) and a tape drive asynchronous (Archive
>>2150s, it *must* run asynch right?) how should the controller be jumpered,
>
>i disagree. i think the sysnc/async ability of each target is determined 
>during post and each handled on that basis after that. jumper block J5, 
>pin 1, add the jumper and boot. 
>
>this info courtesy of the neese utils which display the different 
>sync/async profile of targets found after post.
>
>jack...
>=============================================================================
> Jack Craig      Microport SVR4      408-438-UNIX        uunet!mport.com!jack   
>=============================================================================

 have both 1640's and 15xx adaptec boards around here, how can I tell wether they are in sync or async mode?

mvickers@cclink.fhcrc.org
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: (3.5" 1"H) vs (3.5" HH)
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:24:44 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: cic

alawa@gna.axis-design.fr (Allaoua Bouabdallah) writes:


>I am looking for a Big and Chip scsi hard-drive that fit in my pizza-box.
>I found one (Fujitsu 520MB 12ms 3.5" 1"H - $1199) but what's the difference
>between  3.5" 1"H and   3.5" HH ?

The Fujitsu 2624 drive is a full height 3.5" drive. In this case, the
height is specified as 41.3 +- 0.5 mm. Halfheight drives are about
an inch high (I have no exact specs for any of these, sorry).

>Does the fujistsu fit in a pizza-box ?
It does. I would not recommend putting more than one of these
"hot" drives in a pizza box with only one fan (at the power supply).
For a SPARCstation 2, two drives are supposedly OK (*your* risk ;-).
I was also told that this drive is OK for an IPC or IPX, BTW.
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Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
From: mrd@morsel.stdavids.picker.com (Michael DeCorte)
Subject: data phase length mismatch
Organization: Picker International, St. Davids
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:49:31 GMT


I have been reading the SCSI-2 10b/c spec.  I have been unable to
determine what the correct behavior is for the following situation in
a processor device (but the problem holds for sequential and printer).

	initiator issues send command, asking for say 512 bytes

	the target has only 500 bytes to send

I am guessing that the correct behavior is:

	Data Out Phase, transfers 500 bytes

	sets residue in sense data to (512 - 500)
	sense code and sense key set to no additional sense

	Status Phase, Check Condition

	Message In Phase, Command Complete


Anyone know if this is correct?

thanks




--
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Senior Systems Engineer
Picker International
St. Davids Center/Suite 100
130 Radnor-Chester Road
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From: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: SCSI vs fast SCSI
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:43:56 GMT
Reply-To: gkendall@ncr-mpd.FtCollins.NCR.COM (Guy Kendall)
Organization: NCR Microelectronic Products Division

In article <Bt8qxv.JyD@acsu.buffalo.edu> lps@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Lawrence P. Schnitzer) writes:

>FAST SCSI-2 has a maximum transfer rate of 10 MBytes/sec over the bus
>as opposed to 5 MBytes/sec for SCSI.  Note that you'll never achieve
>either of these rates - they're maximum rates.  Also, I don't think that 

That's not true. You might not see these rates with off the shelf disk
drives, but SCSI and SCSI-2 can most definately hit these maximum rates.
Off the shelf disk drives are not the only SCSI peripherals.

-- 
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NCR Microelectronic Products Division               Voice: 719-596-5795 x465
1635 Aeroplaza Drive                                  Fax: 719-570-6045
Colorado Springs, CO 80916                            BBS: 719-596-1649 
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