HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Cities and Suburbs
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:14:40 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

The city -> suburb phenomenon has to do with cars becoming available for the
masses.  The US can afford to do this because we have spacious countrysides
and there are no social inhibitions against converting farmland to suburbia.
In Japan, we all know that having a car is a joke.  It's sacreligious to
convert rice paddies to housing, and much of the countryside is mountainous.
There are several factors that could inspire more people to move to the 'burbs:

-Open up the rice market, destroying the incentive to preserve rice paddies.
-Deflate land prices to a reasonable level.
-End government subsidization of rice growing, for "Sunday farmers" that grow
a few grains of rice on a land plot every year to get subsidies.
-Regionalize the Japanese economy & politics, away from Tokyo.  This will lead
to a massive reverse exodus back into medium- and small-size cities.
-Lay more superhighways.
-import more immigrants & create ghettos, to make cities undesirable places to
live.
-Convert urban apartment complexes into parking structures.
-reduce the gas tax, and deduct the difference from public transportation funds.-Hire 1/10th of Southeast Asia to level mountains, and bury the coastline with
dirt to expand land area.
-Fund government research for subterraineous housing projects in mountains.
-relocate aging population to overseas nursing homes, provided the currency
exchange rate remains favorable.
They would live in Showa Colonies in Oregon, Nevada, Tasmania, New Guinea,
Brazil, Xinjiang Autonomous Province, and Siberia.
-Fund a Ministry of Culture campaign that popularizes burial by deposition into
volcanic lava in Japanese mountains.
-Install Salarynet so people can work at home.
-Convert urban elementary & secondary schools into helipads for wealthy
suburbanites to commute to the city.
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They would live in Showa 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<1jlvihINN9t8@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> <RHB.93Jan21104645@world.std.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:03:44 GMT

Judging from the e-mail I got, Japanese-surnamed people decidedly do
*not* like the word "Jap" applied to them. It's not a word I use
anyway, but I didn't think there was any special stigma to it. I was
wrong. Hope nobody was offended by my ignorance. Moushiwake arimasen.

RB

-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese names & Finnish names
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:09:24 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

I guess there will always be those whose parents want to have 
intersting or different names, but I think people were talking about 
generalities. Fr instance, I knew a girl whose first name was 
"Saturday". (No kidding, her real first name)...
:::::Larry:::::

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::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
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From: tom@crane.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: AKEBONO MAKES YOKOZUNA!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:55:45 GMT
Organization: imagen


Congratulations to Akebono on attaining Yokozuna!

Topu-o-narae!!!

-tjl

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Love Mankind, Revere Heaven  :-)

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From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: speaking of Mori Ohgai...
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:24:04 -0800 (PST)
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: ikkoku-kan.panda.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP

Speaking of Mori Ohgai, here's a passage from his masterpiece, ``Maihime''
(The Dancing Girl):

                $@IqI1(J                             The Dancing Girl
            $@2*30?9NSB@O:Cx(J                    by Ohgai Mori Rintaro^

                               $@$5$9$,(J
    $@H`$OMD$-;~$h$jJ*FI$`$3$H$r$PN.@P$K(J      Ever since a child, she had
                         $@$$$d(J               in fact liked reading, but
    $@9%$_$7$+$I!"<j$KF~$k$OH\$7$-!V%3%k(J      all she could lay her hands
                   $@$H$J(J                     on were poor novels of the
    $@%W%k%?!<%8%e!W$H>'$&$kB_K\20$N>.@b(J      type lent by the circulating
                     $@$"$$$7$k(J               libraries, known by their cry
    $@$N$_$J$j$7$r!"M>$HAj<1$k:"$h$j!"M>(J      of ``Corportage.''  After
                               $@$h$&$d(J       meeting me, she began to read
    $@$,<Z$7$?$k=q$r$h$_$J$i$$$F!"A2$/<q(J      the books I lent her, and
                     $@$J$^$j(J                 gradually her tastes improved
    $@L#$r$bCN$j!"8@MU$NkB$r$b@5$7!"$$$/(J      and she lost her accent.  Soon
                  $@$h(J                        the mistakes in her letters
    $@$[$I$b$J$/M>$K4s$9$k$U$_$K$b8m;z>/(J      to me became fewer.  And so
                                            there had grown between us a
    $@$J$/$J$j$L!#$+!"$l$PM>EyFs?M$N4V$K(J      kind of teacher-pupil
                                            relationship.
    $@$O@h$E;UDo$N8r$j$r@8$8$?$k$J$j$-!#(J

-- Mark who was at Ohgai-so^ a month ago

[PS: Yes, I know $@2*30(J is not the right kanji for ``Ohgai'', but JIS only
     has $@2*(J for O/kamome, not the traditional character.]

[PPS: Sorry for presuming to insert some culture into soc.culture.japan]
From: ee52fbc@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Dai-Nippon Teikoku and the Jews
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:26:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Rikiya asks:
>Their absurd notion -- and let this be a lesson to those who think the
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Japanese are incapable of utter stupidity -- was to import massive
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>numbers of
>Jews from Europe....
>
>This is interesting to me! It shows that (white people) think that
>generalizations  are  ok as long as its not against them.  O.k. Ladies
>and Gentlemen here's your chance to show "the world" how Non- racist you
>are. What a joke.  Most of your kind is the most racist!! Where are you
>Maiko Covington?

Sorry. That post didn't reach my site - I didn't see it until just
now. Yes, this is also a generalization, but one of the Japanese
government I think. He is commenting that the government was stupid.
The point I get is "See, the gov't was acting stupidly, this proves
that some Japanese can be stupid" not "all Japanese are stupid."
yes, it could have been better said. NO ONE is incapable of utter
stupidity, but at the same time NO RACE is comprised of only stupid
people.
	As far as my own race goes, yes, I'm white, for better or
for worse.
	Maiko Covington

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: in (partial) defense of r
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:37:56 EST

EN> Mickey... CBC Newsworld carries a weekly review of "Japan Today" at
EN> 7:00 am. Saturday..


Hi Ed,

Thank you very much for the info, I'll try to tape the program.
IMHO,  "Japan Today" deserves a better time slot than 7:00AM, Saturday.
Those bureaucrats at CBC need to shape up.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: BFLV@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (BFLV)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: How to read "fj" newsgroups on PC
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:25:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: VM1.26JAN93.00450744.0089
Organization: McGill University

Could anyone out there know how to read the Japanese characters
on "fj" newsgroups on PC MS-DOS system ?

Thank You!
M.Y.
From: dirceu@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (Dirceu G. Cavendish Jr.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Where's the Beef...(a shameless plug, sorry)
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:03:32 GMT
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Tech., Iizuka, JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: mikan.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp
In-reply-to: howp@skyfox's message of 23 JAN 93 22:02:19 GMT

In article <23JAN93.22021944@skyfox> howp@skyfox writes:

 >blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
 >
 >=> keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
 >=> > [...]  By all means, buy Australian beef (for obvious selfish 
 >=> >reason) but go for the best price really for any of the import 
 >=> >beef. There is absolutely no reason to pay obscene amount of 
 >=> >money for paper-thin, flimsy, tasteless Japanese beef! 
 >
 >>I don't know...
 >
 >>I can't agree that Kobe, Matsusaka, or Yonezawa beef is tasteless
 >>at all. The "cheap beef that ain't cheap" in Japan is not very
 >>good, but the stuff that you pay "obscene" amounts for is often
 >>very good quality... almost fork tender and very savory.
 >
 >Just to throw in my two cents (and plug Canadian beef while I'm at it :) ) I've
 >been told by farmers that Canadian beef is of exceptionally high quality
 >because our cattle are fed grain (not corn; apparently, corn makes the fat more
 >yellowish) and I think we also use less antibiotics/drugs/or whatever than
 >anyone else.  I just thought our friendly Japanese beef consumers would like to
 >know this. 
 >
 >Cheers,
 >Peter How
 >University of Saskatchewan,
 >Saskatoon, SK
 >CANADA
 >(306) 966-6452
 >IN::how@skisas.usask.ca
 >IN::howp@sask.usask.ca

I sympathize with Bill Lambert. It is obscene the price one pays for what I
call 2D meat. This thread remindes me an ocasion I was enjoying a huge (for
my standards, after 2 years in Japan) 3D steak in a brazilian restaurant.
I asked to the waiter where such a nice meat came from, where he promptly
replied: From Australia, since brazilian meat does not passes in the japanese
quality control. I thought to myself. Protectionism :-(

Give me a break...

PS.: My girlfriend said I looked to the steak at first sight as a
naked woman :-). Am I addicted to meat (3D tasty, salty)?

Wanna go to a barbecue restaurant?

D. Cavendish
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:26:41 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Akutagawa Ryuunosuke
	<1993Jan23.045825.4927@netcom.com>

Mr. Turkey writes:

.

>Get your facts straight Rikya-san, Akutagawa did not win the nobel
>prize. The *only* Japanese author to win that prize was Kawabata Y.

Believe it or not I was very afraid for a moment! Reading this from Jim Turkey!
This is borderline insulting to me. But, I am really fond of your name.
I can only imagine what a kind of person you are. Did you know that
there is a Turkey
North Carolina? Anyway, Mr. Li got the facts straight! Sorry.
From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese name !!
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:30:08 GMT
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew Int'l Ltd., Tokyo

In article <1jngpcINN9vv@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM writes:

>Almost, but not quite. I've run across a few Japanese men whose
>first name ends with -ko. Actually the corresponding kanji meaning
>is child though it often appears in compounds with the meaning
>(implication?) of tiny thing, particle, or piece. 

I don't think there are any Japanese parents weird enough to have called their
son xxx-ko, with -ko the kanji for child. A common suffix for guys is 
-hiko (as in the city Hikone), this might be were you got that impression.

Common suffixes for guys :
-haru -aki -hiro -yoshi -nori -suke -o -ro -nari -ichi -ji -saburo -yuki -ya
-nobu -masa -toshi.

Common one character names : Akira, Tadashi, Makoto, Hiroshi, Minoru, 
Noboru, Ken, Jun.
Men's most common name in Japan (based on the Tokyo telephone directory)
is Suzuki Minoru (thre's one in my company).

Most common suffixes for girls : -ko, -mi, -e, -yo. With that you can 
create over 90% of girls' names.
Other names : Chiharu, Chiaki, Chiyoshi, Madoka, Natsu, Mari, Yuri,
Miyuki, Mizuki, Setsu, Megumi, Haruka.
Also, Japanese women's most common first name is Keiko (various
characters).

I've seen Masami and Kazumi used for both girls and boys.

>Based on personal experience I would guess that about one out of every
>hundred -ko's is a man. 

Sorry but if ko is "child", then this has to be wrong. -hiko, maybe.
And even then the large number of Haruko and Hanako would outnumber
the Katsuhiko and Yoshihiko. What do you think, Maiko ? ^_^

I don't specially recommend the purchase of "Japanese Names" by P.G. O'Neill
at Whetherhill (?), since it's very incomplete, but at least it's a
reference.
-- 
    __  _    
** ||_ /_| **   Fred "I'll be" Bach   (kddlab!ubspd.co.jp!tobac@uunet.uu.net)
** || /__| **   [Je suis athee, Dieu merci.]          Tel. 813-3597-1595

Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:33:07 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Akutagawa Ryuunosuke
	<C1HH3x.M6z@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<cfNd5ES00WB=I2flJm@andrew.cmu.edu>

Mr. Haga writes,

.

>It is known and undertood that an ordinary human can not even guess or
>surmise what Mr. Rikiya Asano is saying for he is the true genius
>which he claims to be.  It is very sad that we, ordinary human beings,
>can not appreciate and be enlightened by the sayings of the Great Asano.
>But, such is the way of the true genius.  Mr. Asano is a man of great
>depth.  His depths in intelligence, morality, and wisdom exceed far
>beyond the comprehensions of us, ordinary humans, that they go as far
>as the deep bottom of hell.
> 
>So, therefore, I tell you not try to understand what Mr. Asano is
>trying to say, for it is not for our puny minds to understand them,
>but just try hard to understand what you see on the surface.  His
>integrity in his posts makes it enough for us, the inferior beings, to
>almost understand his wills and attitude in a particular matter by
>just staring in wide eyes to his holiness of his posts.  For such is
>the Mighty Rikiya's way.  His writings are so sacred, trying to peek
>through the surface of them will blind our eyes for we're filthy and
>puny beings from the eyes of the Holy Asano.

Do you really have to do this!
 
>Oh, the Great Riki-chan, please don't strike me with your wrath for my
>impertinence.

Embarassing! 


>p.s.  To surmmarize the above passages, just ignore Mr. Rikiya's posts
>for it is not us, ordinary, rational biengs to understand them.  But
>they might be a great hobby you can have, to try to guess and
>understand what the greatest genius of our time wants to say. 

This is better! I also agree. For those of you that have trouble with my
postings it is better for me and you that you past my name up or put me
into the kill file although this is useless.(because eventually you'll
see what I wrote anyway from the postings of someone else). Also, this
poster is correct when he says that I am not like everyone else. Just
like everyone is not like me. I've convinced that many of you here are
not worthy of either America or Nippon! Look how diversified ya'll are.
Before I came this was like a grave. Peace but cold and dead. Many of
you remind me of..of.. CONSERVATIVES. I'm an Ultra- Ultra (man)
Liberal(that's non political of course). Ahh! maybe that's it! Ahh!
Maybe if I started talking like Dan Quayle you would understand me
better. So, what else. I think that that's it! 

>p.p.s.  Sorry to waste the bandwidth with this gibberish.

 That O.K. your intentions were good!
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: BABY MACHINES
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:40:07 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Both Islam and Christianity exists on the African continent, with the former
winning by a close margin.  But the margin is so close, I can't help thinking
the two religions are the same.  Also, the Phillipines has Muslim communities,
and Indonesia is mostly Muslim.  This uproar over extermination of residents
of East Timor, is the result of a mostly Muslim army terminating Catholic
islanders.  Looniness?  I can out-psychotic, out-flame anybody.  Check out
what Dwight Joe & I vs. the world have been doing over the last week on
ucb.general and soc.culture.asian.american.  Hmm, how bout that, a showdown
between Rikiya & I, clash of the titans.  No, doing that will truly bankrupt
soc.culture.japan out of existence.  To end on such a flaming note, has very
dangerous implications for international relations indeed!  Come on, I would be
the one with the last laugh if a rage-crazed Japan made the first strike 
against all Pacific Rim countries simultaneously, with their stockpile of
plutonium these days.  At least, I hope I'm not raising the blood pressure of
too many right-wingers on both sides of the Pacific.  Anyway, Catholics &
Muslims have been fighting out of control in Yugoslavia, but can you tell the
difference?  It is the Bosnians who are mostly Muslim, right?
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Dai-Nippon Teikoku and the Jews
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:09:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MfMzGgy00iV1A1AoI3
	<7oXsXB10w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us>
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Greenfield writes:

.

>Rikiya, don't take this the wrong way, I'm not criticizing you 
>because of your spelling (I have lots of bilingual friends, and the 
>spelling is the hardest part), but I just had to chuckle when I saw 
>your spelling: Hippocrites!  (I keep imigining those hippos from 
>Disney's Fantasia dance around spewing propaganda)...
>:::::Larry:::::


Well, I never!
From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese names & Finnish names
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:12:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:

>borrowing of a few words.  Japanese is currently thought to be basically
>an Altaic language that borrowed pronunciations from Malayo-Polynesian
>tongues, hence the simplified 5-vowel structure, distinct from other Altaic
>languages that have lots of vowels & vowel harmony.  It's thought that words
>like sakana are a remnant of ancient vowel harmony, though the ancient form
>would have had several ways to say a.

The connection of the Korean and Japanese languages to Altaic languages
is not conclusive and in dispute.  Maybe it is something to do with 
Malayo-Polynesian influence on simplified vowel structure.

>There is a theoretical connection
>Finno-Ugric and Altaic languages, but for Finnish and Japanese to converge,
>one would have to go so far back in time, that they are no more related than
>Japanese and Bulgarian, where Bulgarian is the Westernmost branch of Altaic
>languages.  Granted, if Bulgaria was a richer country & more people were
>learning Bulgarian in Japan, we may hear more romantic notions about connections
>between Bulgarian and Japanese.  But Korean, which is a more authentically
>Altaic language, would lay better claim to such a romantic connection.

Finnish belongs ot Uralic languages so are Estonian, Karelian, Lapp, Mordvin,
and Hungarian languages. However, historical link of the Finnish language
goes back to Finno-Ugric ("dead" language) and finishes at Proto-Uralic.
I don not see  any connections between Proto-Uralic and Turkic, Mongolian,
or Korean-Japanese proto languages unless a theory postulates a proto
language from which all three Altaic proto languages AND Proto-Uralic 
originated. Where is evidence for such a claim?

Burgarian belongs to South Slavic (Yugoslavic) branch to my knowledge.
Could it be Hungarian which originated Ugric proto language you meant?
I don't know where Mordvin is spoken but even if it is a language
spoken in Moldva on Burgarian-Moldovan borders, Magyar (Hungarian)
should be the westernmost branch of Altaic languages.
(Unless of course, you claim Basque, unknown origin, relates to Finno-
Ugric proto languages.)
From: ooi@meis.sony.co.jp (ooi eng_theam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Youth hostels
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:12:12 GMT
	<HARKCOM.93Jan26182543@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
	<1993Jan26.175924.3315@peanut>
Organization: Sony Corporation, M&E Information System, Japan
In-reply-to: andym@bvc.edu's message of 26 Jan 93 23:59:24 GMT

There are many youth hostels all over Japan but most of them are in
quite inconvenient location (far away from train station).
Not all youth hostels are operated by JYH (Japan Youth Hostel
Association). Quite a number of youth hostels are operated by local
authorities. You would definitely have to have a membership card of
a youth hostel association (of any coutry) to use a YH operated by
JYH. However, YHs operated by local authorities do accept non-members.
I have put up in a YH in Osaka with a friend without a membership
card.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: elt@mutei.Princeton.EDU (Ed Turner)
Subject: Re: Sumo - Hatsu Basho (Akebono Promoted)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:49:30 GMT

Although worried that we could lose him through some untimely slump
forcing retirement (as I've posted about before), I am basically
quite happy with the news.  Akebono's sumo looks marvelously strong,
and it is *improving* over the past several basho.  It bodes well IMO.

It should also lay to rest charges about discrimination against
foreign rishiki.  Although clearly some Japanese, and perhaps even
some members of the promotion council, are biased, it is obviously
not sufficiently pervasive nor powerful to hold back foreigners
who currently are very plentiful in the top ranks.

I hope that Takahanada makes it to yokozuna in the next few years
with a strong and consistent style.  He and Akebono are both young
enough to have a long and interesting rivalry ahead.

I guess Konishiki must feel badly though.

--
Ed Turner			"The truth is never taken
elt@astro.princeton.edu		 From another.
				 One carries it always
				 By oneself."
                                         - Tetto Giko 1369
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Other News from J-land (Was: Taka and Rie Split Up)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:32:42 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

tom@crane.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk) writes:
>     In a press conference yesterday Miyazawa Rie said that her
>engagement to Takahanada has been called off. [...]

o After his official promotion to ouzeki, Takahanada was renamed
  Takanohana.

o Akebono Tarou was offically promoted to yokozuna.  His mentor
  and stable master Azuma-zeki (former Takamiyama) could not hold
  back tears of joy as his star student was promoted to the rank 
  he had never achieved during his career.  Akebono himself looked
  stone faced, perhaps from too much "kinchou"(nervousness). 

  I think Takamiyama was the first foreign wrestler (Hawaiian) to
  participate in Ou-zumou. He went up as far as ouzeki(?)