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From: 76366.2125@compuserve.com (Howard Tom)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Movie Guides rate anime
Date: 9 Jan 93 21:50:39 GMT
To: anime-l <anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>


	I seem to recall the low and odd ratings goven by Maosn and Porter
in their guide, but if you want another equally bizarre evaluatuon try
sniffing out the Video Hound Guide to Movies, a large paperback that has
just undergone a second edition. I recall that some of the titles I admire
were given rather low ratings, but what really takes the cake here is
that it still lists "I Give My All" as being available. It got a 'woof'
(=bomb) rating. I'll have to check this one a second time to confirm the
ratings they give to other anime, but it wasn't worth buying even for
their coverage of domestic films and tapes.

					Howard Tom

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From: megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: anime sig's
Date: 9 Jan 1993 09:43:14 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
NNTP-Posting-Host: obsidian.wpi.edu

In article <1993Jan8.122334.3722@nic.csu.net> ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg) writes:
>could one of those jumbo sig people please post who to get around rn cutting
>then down to 4 lines  ?? 

Very easy, call it something other than .signature, ie .sig, and include it
via you editor. in emacs Control-x i

That's what I do, and I only use 4 lines, I just don't want the .sig on all
my posts on all the groups I use.. like poetry posts...

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK <SPOILERS!>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:02:21 GMT

In article <726242451snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au>, michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
> 
> Yes, it is fast. If you want the story developed, it should have been
> an OAV series, but that would destroy the flow of the action.

I value story/characterization over action/pacing.  As it is, the pacing
of this thing was very rushed.  They tried to cram so much into two hours
of film I though I was watching a synopsis rather than the film itself.

> BUT, what you really do need to do is see it SUBTITLED. Reading the
> script with the movie won't work. You need the words "there", rather
> than constantly looking down to read a printout.

Remember, I saw the film twice.  The first time while reading the script,
and then immediately watched it again, while I still remembered most of
the script, and how it correlated to the actions on the screen.  I still
think there was too much plot in there, which crushed the characterizations
into two or less dimensions.

Aside:  I've seen the first 5 episodes of 0083, as subbed by OpX.  High
melodrama, with some interesting characterization of the Jions (especially
that base commander in episode 4).
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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Re update post for AA'93
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:38:51 GMT

In article <1i36jqINNt7u@bigboote.WPI.EDU> megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
>In article <10808@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> 7514P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Chris Swett) writes:
>>anime products on a closed circuit system where you could tape them. The
>>system in question stops cable service to the affected room if the cable is
>>disconnected from the television. This restriction has met the requirements
>
>hehehe... I heard THAT before... Give me some pliers, screwdriver, coax,
>maybe some light gauge wire... Ever try to tape pay-per-view cable things 
>with the odd cable boxes?

Oh, I'm sure that you could *physically* do something like that.  That
is, if the lockout was a physical lockout.  However, it sounds like the
Westin has a *logical* lockout where the central computer could send
a loopback signal to the room's TV set.  Cable service could be denied
once the loopback is broken.

Note that I don't actually *know* anything about the workings of the
Westin system, but it seems logical to me given what I've seen of
it at Silicon.  (In fact, the Silicon TV channel was denied to me for
almost 2 days because someone forgot to activate me...and the front
desk lost my request when I asked... :-()

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Flights to West Coast Anime Conventions (Repost)
From: shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa)
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:19:40 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation


Although United Airlines is the OFFICIAL air carrier of Anime Expo, I
found a neat way for all of you fans out there to save money (if you
act quickly).  This strategy applies to any convention that you may be
going to in most sections of the West and South Coast.  Southwest Airlines
is currently running their 2 for 1 savings program.  What this means
is that 2 individuals travel for the price of one.  So if I was
traveling from L.A. and the SW price is $58 for a round-trip from LAX
to Oakland International, my buddy come with me and I pay $29 for the
round-trip.  Same applies in New Orleans or Chicago or anywhere else
that they fly to.  The savings are much larger too!  This also
probably means that you can split the hotel costs down the middle and
save the extra $$$ for the dealers' room.  If you are particularly
generous, then just allow a friend to tag along with you to the
convention.  The catch though is that Southwest will only fly into
major airline hubs, so that means that Oakland and San Francisco
International Airports are to only airports in the Bay Area that they
fly to.  Fans might want to use RAA or JAMO to find out which other
fans are traveling from their region so that they can arrange for
these savings.  Anime Expo had attendees from 38 states plus Puerto
Rico and the District of Columbia.  Odds are that there is another
attendee not too far away from you.  Southwest only flies as far
Northeast as Chicago and as far Southwest as New Orleans, so you New
Yorkers may not get too much in the way of savings.  Our travel Agent
at Ladera Travel told me that these fares will probably be sold out
for the weekend of Expo by February or March.  She also told me that
these fares are fully refundable, so there is no penalty for buying
when your plans are still not set yet!  If you want Ladera Travel to
compare the Southwest Fares for your region against the discounts
offered by United Airlines, just call them at (213)-772-1511.  


Just a thought...

Mike

P.S. You Anime America attendees out there can take advantage of this
deal too, but will have to fly into Oakland, BART down to Fremont,
take a bus down to light rail and take the light rail to Santa Clara.
(I think that there is a bus that goes there from BART, but I'm not
quite sure.)
-- 
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President, SPJA:  2425 B Channing, Suite 684, Brk, CA 94704
Publicity Coordinator, Anime Expo '93
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Subtitled 'A-KO' on LD at Critics' Choice
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:16:31 GMT

In article <10850@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, U5A6B%WVNVM.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Jerry Burchard) writes:
> To whom it may interest:
> 
> Critics' Choice Video, a big video mail-order house (that used to be
> the video side of Publishers' Central Bureau mail-order), lists
> 'Project A-Ko' on laser disk (CLV format, CX Noise Reduction,
> Digital (whatever that would signify on LDs)) with subtitles.
> The price is $39.95, plus $5.50 S&H (per order).

Actually, a better place to order would be SIGHT & SOUND, in Waltham, Mass.
(address in the FAQ).  All mail orders are %15 off the regular price, and
their service is VERY good.
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From: shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Misc Anime Gossip
Date: 4 Jan 93 06:18:07 GMT
Organization: The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation

I posted earlier about the possibility of a BGC prequel, but it looks
like a Megazone prequel will be the big project in the works.

Strange isn't it how anime follows American film trends...  A decade
ago, we started our sequel craze to cash in on "safe" blockbusters.
Now that the recession has hit Japan, the Japanese are realizing that
this route is the one to take as well.  Macross III will be another
case in point.

BTW, no sign of the Otomo QL episode yet.  Carl said that NBC had used
the Akira footage without his permission.  (He also mentioned the
possibility of suing them.)  Word is that the character designs for
the new Otomo film looks quite good.

Mike

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Publicity Coordinator, Anime Expo '93
From: whong@musubi.pubnet.com (Dream Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Hurricane Videos for sale(again)
Date: 10 Jan 93 14:38:59 GMT
Organization: Studio Musubi, Honolulu HI

Well, the deal fell through so here's your chance to get them!

Hurricane Live 2032 & 2033 VHS tapes from AnimEigo
$30 for both tapes(and I'll pay for the postage!)
Either that, or $20 worth of a GEnie of Time. (I'll still pay the postage!)

E-Mail if interested.

Wendell Hong, AKA Dream Hunter: The #2 busiest anime fan in the world!
J.A.S.H. Travel Coordinator/Public Relations/All around drudge...
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From: sterling@netcom.com (Bruce Sterling Woodcock)
Subject: Re: Animeigo (should) release KOR tv series LDs!!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:15:04 GMT

In article <-1359138408snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
>In article <1iiud5INNn5b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
> > As Bruce had said earlier (sorry quotes don't work on this
> > piece of shit Freenet terminal), the key is to EXPAND.  Although
> > it's a high risk proposition, the rewards are extremely high.
>I think we should let AnimEigo get a bit more comfortable with the
>three titles a month level of releases. Talking to Janice frequently,
>they seem to have their hands full keeping up with the releases.

Ah, but if they could sell more video, they could hire more people to keep up
with the demand.  So how do they increase profits?  See below.

>Also you have to look at it from the purchaser's point of view. We
>already have seen complaints on raa from people who simply can't keep
>up financially with all of AnimEigo's releases. Even I as a fully
>employed person would have trouble getting every one of their releases.

They key, though, is to find the maximial point on the price-sales curve.
Think of how many people you know that buy x videos for y dollars.  Now,
think of how many more people you know that *would* buy more anime, if it
were cheaper.  In my circles, that number is 2 or 3 times as many as actually
buy.  So AnimEigo could in theory cut prices in half, and sell MORE than 2
times as many units.  Not to mention the fact that the people already buying
a certain amount would probably keep buying that much, because there is a lot
of stuff they would like to get but can't afford currently.

Okay, so perhaps I am exagerrating a little.  I certainly don't have high
paid MBA's analyzing ths stuff for my company.  But, I don't think anyone
out there can honestly believe that companies like AnimEigo have found the
maximum profit region on the curve.

Bruce

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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RUNNING MAN?
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:27:18 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Technically speaking, the MTV version of The Running Man IS 2 1/2 minutes
shorter than the original, thru short edits and time compression.  Doesn't have
much of an effect, though.

The theatrical version is the full length version, with a different voice
of the narration (Michael Mcconohie).

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
From: mvcy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gall Force
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:19:12 EST
Distribution: usa,rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1993Jan6.055528.11467@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>,
micro19@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (A Techno-Discordian) writes:
 
> Hmm.. there are a number of sequels, and even a parody called Ten little
> Gal forces or something.  I haven't seen them.  My friend said they are not
> as good as the original.
> 

I *LOVED* Ten Little Gallforce.  It's a parody of scenes from Gallforce 1-3
involving deformed characters (a la SD series, read 'cutefied').  I don't
know if there are any English versions, but if you liked the Gallforce series,
you simply must try to see it.

Sat Amagai
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL)
Subject: Re: SVHS tips
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:14:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.232619.17378@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> hcy@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (hon-chi.yu) writes:
>
>By the way, may I ask you why you got the JVC editting VCR?  Unless you 
>plan to do a lot of editting, you will certainly save a lot of money
>by getting one of the low end SVHS VCR that have limited editting features.
>Like the JVC HRS4700 or Panasonic 4260/4270 (?) which sells for about
>$450.

I could have as you said. But unfortunately I saw this really neat model
HR-SC1000U and I couldn't resist. I could have bought a low end SVHS VCR for
about $500 bucks and that's in Canadian currency.

>Oh, I hope you know that no matter how good a SVHS VCR is, it's still no
>match for a Fatima. ^_^

Haha! good comment. Especially ones by Ballanche or Carbyte.
>
>Hon Yu, the man with no signature block, but 3 VCRs.

So do I! take that!

Eiji
F.E.M.C XXVII
From: n9282081@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Rob Ketcherside)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Laser Perceptions (_Still Bad_)
Keywords: Laser Deceptions is more like it...
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:22:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan5.222235.5676
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <1993Jan5.135055.21106@wam.umd.edu> wildstar@wam.umd.edu (Susumo Kodai) writes:
>I have had so many bad experiences with laser perceptions, that to consider them
>the "Mail order Anti-Christ", would make it possible for the Anit-Christ to sue
>me for slander. I avoid these guys under penalty of death. I could rant and rave
>about how they have been in the past, but supposedly they have turned over a new
>leaf and started to practice better business. heheheh, yeah and there is a 
>bridge in brookly I can sell you - cheap.
>
>Basically my girlfirend was desperatly looking to get me the first Gundam 0083
>CD for christmas, and laser deceptions was the only place that had it.
>Despite the ten dollar markup compared to Nikaku, and the additional ten dollars
>for UPS second day air (they refused to send ground) compared to Nikaku's five
>dollars, Kendra (my s.o.) got it. The charge didn't show up on this months card
>statement. It showed up on Kendra's _MOTHER'S_ credit card
>
>When Kendra called up to inquire into this, she found out that Eldon keeps every
>credit card number that you use with him. If you use a credit card to order something from Eldon, you can count on it remaining with him forever.
>
>Eldon said that when you ask him to erase a card number from your "file" all he
>does is write "do not use" next to it.
>
>Oh, Kendra used her mother's card once (about five years ago) to order the gorg
>disk set. FIVE YEARS!
>
>If you want to here any more Eldon-Antics and bad business practices, just ask!
>I easily think of twenty right off the bat, and I'm more than willing to post
>them.
>
>Wildstar
>
>(oh, how I envy you netters with your perfect grammer, spelling, and typing
>skills. Please forgive error rifled posts)


Yeah, I've had one bad experience with Loser Deceptions.. then again, I've
only had one experience with them!  I ordered Macross teh Movie on LD..
tehy cash my check.. 3 months later I call up to find out what's taking so
long, and they tell me "try at the beginning of next month.. maybe it'll
be in that shipment".. this goes on for 8 months.. I finally get pissed
off and tell them to to tell me when it's going to come in, and they try
the beginning of next month thing again.  I finally manage to squeeze
their version of the truth out of them: the LD has been out of print for
years, and they have no idea if it will ever be printed again!!!  He
refuses to give my money back, so I end up buying to other LDs.... >=(
 
 
Robert Ketcherside
AKA HunterD

   "Anime isn't just a hobby, it's a personal problem"
          -"Mister Ray" Irish
From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: rec.arts.anime charter
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:38:55 GMT
Organization: Gokuraku Videos

lazarus@quack.sac.ca.us (Albert Sze-Wei Wang) writes:
>pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) writes:
>
>>I am also looking for the first message to rec.arts.anime or at least
>>the date it was posted.
>
>>Just out of curiousity (I have a terrible memory for these things),
>>who here was around when rec.arts.anime was created besides Mark
>>Crispin?
>
>I was, but I missed the first 5 articles.  A good week back then was when
>you got 5 or 6 posts a week.  I'm guessing but I would place the origin
>of rec.arts.anime either early 89 or late 88, possibly the middle of '88.

I suspect it was in '88 since I was here for a year or two starting in
early '89, and traffic was already up to 20 or 30 messages a day.  Back
then I was "macross@banana.ucsb.edu."  (I was about as vocal then as I
am now.  Only about 20 messages a month...)  Man, those were the days...
I remember cramming everything I could find on ftp onto a poor little bbs
in Santa Barbara called the "Bowhead Whale."  (And using strange tactics
to avoid the disk quota problem on my account at UCSB for my gifs...)

--David
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From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Proposal for a rec.arts.anime split
Keywords: LONG posting...
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:40:43 GMT
Organization: Gokuraku Videos

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>
>A newsgroup split should be designed to achieve the ... goals of:
>1) split the readership into orthogonal groups with few common interests
>2) retain enough size to justify the existence of the sub-groups
>
>Number 1 seems to be unfeasible. 

True.  And one focal point of my argument.

>There is another alternative, however.  The major complain about r.a.anime
>is the low signal-to-noise ratio; too much perceived "fluff" material.
>I propose to create a new newsgroup, rec.arts.anime.info, which is described
>as follows:
>	rec.arts.anime.info will be a "Moderated" newsgroup.
>
>Of course, as with any newsgroup split, the TOTAL number
>of postings will increase [...]

Another focal point of my argument.

>I think this proposal addresses the issues concerning r.a.anime to the
>best our abilities at the current time.

I agree that this is the best type of split.  I simply don't think that the
any split will suffice.

>If there are no major complaints regarding the above proposal, I shall
>post a RFD to rec.arts.anime, news.groups. and news.announce.newgroups
>by the end of the month.  [Aside: I'll need a volunteer for the
>vote-taking.  Any offers?]

What is a "major" complaint?  Perhaps my opinion can wait until after the RFD.
But I'm not sure we should even proceed with the RFD for this split.

The complaint is the low signal-to-noise ratio in this group.
The proposed solution is to create a "signal-only" moderated group.

It has already been admitted that the net results will be an increase of
traffic within the rec.arts.anime hierarchy.

My fear is that "signal" will merely be extracted from the unmoderated group.  
That the *amount* of signal will not increase, but that the amount of noise
will.  (Within the unmoderated group.)

Will anyone read the moderated group and not read the unmoderated group?
These are the only ones who would benefit from the split. (I really doubt 
that many will.  And I don't feel it is worth noting the casual reader who 
only wants the FAQ.  The FAQ is just as easy to get in the current group 
(search for "FAQ"), or within news.groups.)

I will continue to read the entire rec.arts.anime hierarchy, so that means
that I will still wade through the (potentially more) fluff searching for
the little gems.  And I suspect that there are many more who will do the
same.

--David
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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: AD Vision?! Never heard of them. (Was: Anime Seiya addenem Summa
Date: 11 Jan 93 07:18:36 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Wendell Hong wrote:  "Really?  I just got my Criterion Akira for $88
   (including shipping).  Of I did pre-order this sucker months and
   months in advance... ;^)"
 
 
   You got a good deal; the retail price for the discs is $129.50.
Of course, I was working in the video store when I bought mine, so I
got a good discount, too.
 
 
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