From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: FREE 1-YEAR NRA... enough allready!!
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:17:56 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
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Summary: cthong likes police states, because he's from one?  One hopes not.

In article <BsxGwp.KrG@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com> wreck@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com (R. Cage) writes:
>In <cthong.713669756@sfu.ca> cthong@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Thong) 
writes:>>firstly- hold on -let me get a grip on myself-- heh- 
>>I AM NOT FROM THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA!!
>>SINGAPORE IS NOT , HAS NEVER BEEN , WILL EVER BE A CHINESE STATE!!
>>HEH.HEH..AHHHMMMM..
>
>Ah.  You're from the place which has a leadership that's so
>anal-retentive, it has outlawed CHEWING GUM.

     In all fairness, wasn't it New Jersey that outlawed runny eggs?


>>My views on why people would feel safer in a country where firearms 
>>are prohibited (private use) are supported by these points.
>>- i feel safer in my country because there, i can rely on the police
>
>We can't rely on the police, either to arrive quickly or at all.
>Our population density isn't high enough to have police close by
>when problems occur; delays are inevitable.  Can't do a thing
>about it, yet you think we should throw away our first line of
>defense?

     It should also be mentioned to Mr. Thong that the police in the
United States do not have any legal requirement to help citizens, even
if they are in immediate physical danger, even if they *could* always
be there.
 
     Ask most any police officer in the U.S. or Canada how often they
stop a crime compared to how often they show up afterwards to pick up
the pieces.

>>the cops meanwhile are only a 20 second phone call away.
>
>If I could get a car DISPATCHED in 20 seconds, I'd be in much
>better shape.  It's more like a minute or more.  Then there's
>the 5 miles to the station; 5 minutes' travel at 60 MPH.  By
>the time the police get here, I could be dead.

     Just so.  It does not work that way in the United States.  As a nation,
we've got maybe 80,000 police on duty at any one time to "protect" 248
million citizens.  Numerically it simply can't work.
>
>>keep your gun in your pocket? ... ha... funny.
>>you obviously watch a lot of clint eastwood movies.

     I do believe you misunderstand what it is to carry a gun.

>>i accept points of view from all gun enthusiasts and people who feel
>>for whatever reason they NEED a gun . (protection? okay. ) 
>
>That's a nice turnaround.  Welcome aboard the pro-choice bandwagon.
>
>>you just learn to accept that as i accept your views , i don't have
>>to agree with them ,

     I do not expect you to agree with what I have to say.  The problem
comes when you suggest *imposing* your views on me.  It is then that
I will always take exception.

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