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From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson)
Subject: Precursor to disaster?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:44:17 GMT

I wrote a utility not long ago that moves the mouse "out of the way" when
it remains idle too long and restores it when the mouse is physically
disturbed in some manner. To know when the latter occurs the program keeps
an eye out for IECLASS_RAWMOUSE input events. This scheme worked flawlessly
at first, but now gets fooled every now and then. Apparently, the program
sporatically sees an IECLASS_RAWMOUSE input event even though the mouse was
not disturbed at all! The system that this occurs on is an old :-( A2000
which has been used heavily (50+ hours per week) ever since it was purchased
brand new back in March 1989. Is it possible that the chip that controls
the game ports and hence the mouse is flakey? BTW, I use the Boing! optical
mouse. It's probably around as old as the A2000 as well. Any input appreciated.

Jeff


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mascot@bnr.ca (Scott Mason)
Subject: Re: Amiga 1080 monitor input type?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:55:32 GMT

In article <1hq1qsINN2t0@FRIDGE.AI.CS.YALE.EDU> engelson-sean@cs.yale.edu writes:
>
>Does anyone out there know if the digital RGB input to the Amiga 1080
>monitor (c. 1985) conforms to a wider industry format (such as VGA or
>whatever)?  

The digital RBG input of the A1080 is equivalent to IBM CGA.  It scans
at NTSC scan rates and includes a 4-bit digital interface (R, G, B and
Intensity) to provide a maximum of 16 colours.

>Specifically, I'd like to know if (as well as how) I can
>connect a Powerbook's video out to my Amiga monitor.  Any ideas?

I doubt it. A VGA to NTSC converter could probably be made to work if
the Powerbook's output is VGA as you imply, but these appear to be
quite expensive.

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From: db562s445@sycom.mi.org (Dave Birdsong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: AdSpeed and DKB quikstart
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:01:05 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.975

In an article, walterb@sequoia.cray.com (Walter Boese Jr.) writes:

>Has anybody put the DKB quikstart board in with an AdSpeed??
>I still have a 1000 (no flames), works great !yet!, but I would like 2.0.
>Does this combination work??
>

>Walter Boese Jr.       
>walterb@sequoia.cray.com
>                       
>Short and Sweet
>

I had the DKB board and an ADide in together and they worked just Fine with 
the 2.0 rom.... just remember to cut the WIRE on the rom....
Dave Birdsong
db562s445@sycom.MI.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried Krueger)
Subject: Re: Can the A3070 tape drive use 6250 tapes (250 meg) ??
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:11:42 GMT

aq061@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Devine) writes:


>I saw an ad for the A3070 for $349 and wondered if it could use the 6250
>tapes.  The ad says it can use the 6150 tapes..  Anyone know?

Yes.

>_  //   Scott Devine (aq061@cleveland.freenet.edu)

winnie.
From: Tim.Colverd@p5.f158.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Tim Colverd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Midi500
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:36:38 GMT

Help required..
I have built a small midi from a bbs file called midi500 and have it connected
to my Casio ct655 keyboard.My prob;em is I can control the keyboard from my
amiga (play and change instruments) but cannot input music into the amiga
(using octamed pro or sonix or dmcs.)The input signal is there but it will not
register on the amiga.Any helpful suggestions greatly appreciated.
I have definately constructed the midi correctly......

 * Origin: Night Flight BBS (3:633/158.5)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cmatting@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Mattingly)
Subject: Re: How does 2.04 perform on A500???????????????????
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 19:23:30 GMT

>>> >If WB3.0 becomes available, you'll DEFINITELY need a faster machine.
>>> 
>>> You'll need an AGA machine, I beleive!
>>I don't think it needs AGA.
>
>What does it need?  (Seems like if 3.0 were compatible with older Amigas they
>wouldn't have bothered releasing 2.1)
>

From my understanding, 3.0 needs a 32 bit wide chip set...but not to run, just
to use some of the programs that come with it.  I can run 3.0 on my 500
with 2.04 ROM, and 1MEG RAM.

Later,
Chris


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From: db562s445@sycom.mi.org (Dave Birdsong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Why do I get CRC errors DLing to my Dataflyer at 14.4?
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:05:18 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.976

In an article, matthews@microsoft.com (Matthew Sorrels) writes:

>In article <1993Jan9.235112.13420@news2.cis.umn.edu>
>zant0001@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Zanto) writes:
>>Why is it that I lose characters on my serial port when I access my hard
>>drive, connected to the Dataflyer SCSI?  I just got it, and from what I've
>>heard it is different from the older ones they use to sell, which had more
>>jumpers on them.  The one I have has the 2.0 Autoboot ROM(supports CBM
>>RDB) and has 6 chips on it.  Not much there, a few latches, ROM, SCSI
>>chip.  Does it use DMA now or something?  My system seems to slow quite a
>>bit when it's accessed alot.  
>>
>

>I had this same problem with my Dataflyer SCSI without the RDB ROM.  I
>called them up and they confirmed it was a problem.  They finally
>finished the patch on Jan 6th and sent it to me by modem.  If lots
>of people are interested I may be able to put it on an FTP site.
>

>

>Matthew Sorrels
>matthews@microsoft.com   |  Std. Disclamiers apply
I just wish that I had never purchased a DATA FLYER!!!
I have the IDE/SCSI and it has been a nightmare!!! 
I have had more HD crashes with it in 1 week that I have had in 8 months with 
my ICD AdIDE (in fact I have never had a crash with the AdIDE, but with the 
DAtaFlyer I have 4 crashes in just one week)
As for service, I can't say much for that either... 
The manual states that when the Rigid Boot Block was complete that the rom 
and software would be supplied at no charge. I have asked for it and I was 
told that it would be a $15.00 charge, cuase they sent me the verison of the 
software that works with a 1.9 rom.
I for one will never ever purchase another thing from Expansion Systems.
Dave Birdsong
db562s445@sycom.MI.ORG
From: rmbyers@bfield.uucp (Randy Byers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: GVP Combo board not recognizing 870meg SCSI on cold boot.
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:53:23 EST
Organization: Bakers Field BBS

I've got a 22mhz combo board (5megs RAM, SCSI controller, 22mhz 030).  I've got
3 SCSI hard drives chained together - 2 105meg Quantums and an 870meg Toshiba -
brand new.  When I do a cold boot, the system recognizes the 2 quantums and
boots off of the one, but it never recognizes the Toshiba.  However, when I do
a warm boot (ctrl-amiga-amiga), it recognizes it just fine.

Any idea what the problem is?  A further clue is that the drive does grind away
a bit on cold boot, but it makes other noises on warm-boot - there are three
partitions on it - on warm boot, it makes three distinct clucking sounds -
accessing each paritition I assume.  It doesn't make these noises on cold boot.

Any help would be appreciated!

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                       (519) 725-9909  Amiga, Mac, DOS, Windows, OS/2, C64
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: djp33563@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David J. Pugliese)
Subject: Insite Floptical: How to get 720K/1.44M AmigaDos disks
Summary: How do I get these formats
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:00:25 GMT
Keywords: help!

	I just got an Insite 21MB floptical today, and installed it in my A3000.
My 21 meg disks are on backorder, so I tried formatting a 1.44 meg HD disk
by using a mountlist entry.  I know this is possible, as this subject was
discussed here before.  How do you get this to work?  The drive will mount,
although I get a "No Disk Present" or "Not a DOS Disk" requester.  When
I try to format the disk, the format command hangs on "formatting cylinder 0,
79 to go"  Is this a hardware or software problem?  Help?  Anybody??!!

(e-mail replies, OH PLEEEZ PLEEZ PLEEZ!)

Dave Pugliese
d-pugliese@uiuc.edu
From: st1my@rosie.uh.edu (Stich, Christian E.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 8375 1Meg and 2Meg versions?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 10:33 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I did a little research on the 8375 and it appears as if there are not only
PAL and NTSC versions but also 1 and 2 Meg versions.
Does anybody (Dave, George, Randell) know for sure?

			Thanks

					Christian

P.S.: I am still looking for the pin-out :-)
From: wayne@amtower.spacecoast.org (Wayne Summer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Is CD-ROM available for 2000's
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wayne@amtower.spacecoast.orgX-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:37:44 EST
Organization: Wayne's Machine; Palm Bay, Florida

In article <richardb.726224532@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> richardb@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Richard Banks) writes:
> Specifically, is it available to put in one of the empty drive bays in the front
> of the 2000.
>
> Can the A500 version be plugged into the back if this isn't possible.
>
> Regards all.
>   Richard Banks
Yes, you can put any SCSI CD-ROM in the 5 & 1/4" bay on the A2000.  You will
need to get a filesystem.  There are at least 3 commercial ones - Xetec,
AsimCDFS, and CPR CDROM-FS.

No, you can not use the A500 version.  What would you plug it into?
--
Wayne

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From: masc@coli.uni-sb.de (Martin Schulze)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Z_Kick for 2.04
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:12:35 GMT
Organization: Computational Linguistics Dept., U Saarbruecken
NNTP-Posting-Host: coli-gate.coli.uni-sb.de

joek@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Joe Karthauser) writes:

>Does anyone know where I can get a copy of ZKick for the 2.04 ROM? I have a
>workbench ZKick but it's for an earlier Kickstart 2.

Try skick. Its availible on all aminet-sited.

>Many thanks,

>	Joe

Martin
From: koolkid@carson.u.washington.edu (Only the Best!!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: SyQuest makes drive lights blink- why?
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:51:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1iq5obINN2b4
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu


	Since we are talking about Syquests drive, I seem to have ran into a
very serious problem also.  One of my cartridges has over 27 unreadable blocks 
on it.  When ever I reformat the cartridge, everything is fine with WBtools.  
But when I start filling it up to a certain track, everything freezes up and
errors go all over the place.  Now is there anyway I can patch these bad
tracks, or should I try and get a replacement from Syquest.  And if I do try
and get a replacement, what is the number of Syquest to call?  Thanks. . .
From: shepherd@diku.dk (Sam Hepworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: M68000 at 14kHZ
Summary: What happens if you doubel the speed of the M68000
Keywords: M68000 turbo
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:22:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

What happens if I doubel the speed of my M68000? (The M68000
is located inside an Amiga500 rev 6a)
Organization: Ege University - Computing Center
Date: Wednesday, 6 Jan 1993 15:02:16 TUR
From: Cem Turgay <OPRJ50@TREARN.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A2000 problem. Please HELP!
Distribution: world

Three days ago, I tried an ATonce emulator card
on my A2000 and troubles begun. The ATonce which is one of the
old versions and for the A500 but I think, it may work with A2000.
(please, I'm not an idiot, I'm only crazy)

I pulled out the 68000 and placed ATonce card then replaced Gary on
his special socket. This socket is very simple, only there is
a 1K resistors between pin 1 and pin 35. (The manual describes as;
if there is a different bus master than the 68000 which takes over
the system-bus, then Gary generates the DTACK signal with a little
delay. This shortcut is for disable this delay.)

When I turned on the machine, it froze after 30-40 sec. works.
I reset it and tried 3 times more but the result didn't change.
I decided that it will not work  with this model ATonce then
I pulled out it and replace 68000 and Gary without socket.

But when I turned on the machine, it didn't boot. The screen
turned dark-gray to light-gray and waited some more then turned
dark-gray again.

I think my Gary burned-out. I bought a new Gary chip and
replaced. When I turned on the machine it worked!
I tested something like opening drawers and loading some applications
but only 3-4 minute after machine froze again.
I turned off and on but same symphtom appears, new Gary burned-out.

Now, I could not buy another Gary until this problem is fixed.

Please help!


PS. The A2000 is rev. 6
    It has 1.3 ROM and 1MB chip and 2MB fast RAM.
    GVP series II and Maxtor HD. installed.

PS2. Here (Izmir/Turkey) there is an authorized CBM service
     but the technician understands about Amiga h/w not more than me!!!
     (Once my old A500 had a trouble and when I went to them, they
      doubled it!)
From: jmw@chem.ucsd.edu (John M. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: WIERD 1960 problem
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:53:06 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
NNTP-Posting-Host: chedccf0.ucsd.edu

In article <brademac.0hk1@burner.com> brademac@burner.com (Brian Rademacher) writes:
>
>  This one baffles me...My 1960 screen tilts to the left, but only at my house...I have taken it over to a friend's house, and I haven't had any troubles over there...I have also taken it to different locations in my house, and some of them work, and some of them don't..
>  I thought that it might be a magnetic field of some sort, but I don't see how it could extend THAT far, and have that kind of effect on my monitor...

I work in an environment with lots of stray magnetic fields; it doesn't
take much stray field to muck up a crt display, but the color purity of a
color monitor is usually the first thing to be affected.

   John Wright	Chemistry, MS 0314, UCSD, La Jolla,  CA 92093-0314
	jmw@chem.ucsd.edu  jwright@ucsd.edu  (619) 534-3049


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: bshor@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Boris Shor)
Subject: GVP + 4.3 MB rev?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:16:20 GMT

Does anybody know if the Series II hard disk card from GVP will operate
on a revision 4.3 2000 motherboard?

Thanks.
From: brademac@burner.com (Brian Rademacher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: WIERD 1960 problem
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:30:21 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)


  This one baffles me...My 1960 screen tilts to the left, but only at my house...I have taken it over to a friend's house, and I haven't had any troubles over there...I have also taken it to different locations in my house, and some of them work, and some of them don't..
  I thought that it might be a magnetic field of some sort, but I don't see how it could extend THAT far, and have that kind of effect on my monitor...
  I am using a Surge/EMI/RFI protector, so....Any ideas/solutions to this problem would be greatly appreciated...

Brian

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From: levi@cs.utk.edu (David Levi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: RGB cable for DCTV
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:18:47 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

I have heard that there is some type of RGB cable available that will
allow DCTV to work with a genlock.  Anybody know how to get this,
what it costs, and what exactly it does?  Does it allow a DCTV image to
be put on top of video?

-Dave Levi  levi@cs.utk.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: gural@cae.wisc.edu (Kevin M. Gural)
Subject: A1200 and 3.5" hard drive
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: World
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:37:06 CST
Summary: Is it possible to use a 3.5" hard drive w/ A1200?
Keywords: A1200 3.5" hard drive harddrive

I have heard that it is possible to use a slim 3.5" hard drive
in the A1200 with some modification (removal?) of the RF shield.
Is this true?  Has anyone else heard this?  Most importantly, has
anyone tried this?

Thanks for any info!

--Kevin
From: dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A590
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:44:39 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <1993Jan5.115209@cogs.sussex.ac.uk>, joek@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Joe Karthauser) writes:
> Am I right in assuming that the A590 Harddrive has both an IDE (For the internal
> XT Drive) and a SCSI Interface?
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Joe.

Nope. It has ST-506 (PeeCee users call it MFM) and SCSI.

Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: zant0001@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Zanto)
Subject: Re: Why do I get CRC errors DLing to my Dataflyer at 14.4?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:37:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.230851.29143@microsoft.com> matthews@microsoft.com (Matthew Sorrels) writes:
>
>I have placed this patch from Expansion Systems on wuarchive.wustl.edu in
>/systems/amiga/incoming/patch there are two files scsidf21.lzh and a readme
>file that I made up that says nothing.  The lzh contains a new SCSIdf.Handler
>and a readme telling you where to put it.  The problem (according to the 
>readme) was that the old handler was locking out all interupts while
>writing to the disk.  The new handler has no problem doing 14.4k zmodem.

It is supposed to be named SCSIdf.device, not SCSIdf.handler.  It's a
device driver, not a handler.  I don't know how they screwed that up.

Eric
From: hugh@kink.PhaedraV.On.Ca (Hugh D. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: C=2232 multiser @ >>19.2Kbps??!!
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 04:07:44 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Phaedra V

In article <rlcarr.09ec@animato.network23.com>, Rich Carreiro writes:

> > Apparently the fastest speed the serial.device driver for the 2232 is 
> > 19.2Kbps.  I would like to run it at either 38.4Kbps or 57.6Kbps.
> 
> You can't.  The A2232 only goes up to 19200 (other than that funny MIDI rate).

That is incorrect. The A2232 hardware documentation specifies that any
one port can run at 115,200bps and all the others at 19,200. The
documentation is even correct. :-) 115.2kbps happens to be exactly
what you want for running a Telebit Worldblazer. You cannot run it at
38.4k or 57.6k however (without changing the h/w as George suggested).
My recollection is that it also does not support MIDI data rate, but
I'd have to look it up.

There are other serial boards that can go up to >600kbps
theoretically, (including the GVP I/O Extender, and I think the
venerable ASDG DSB can go that fast too) using 16 byte FIFO UARTS but
the A2232 is still the only on I know of with its own CPU.

If anyone has data on CPU load at high serial in/out speeds for
different boards, I'd love to see it. Especially a comparison of the
A2232 running one port at 115.2k with its on board CPU vs. one of the
other boards using the Amigas main CPU (but with a larger buffer than
the 1 byte motherboard CIA chips). I find that running the motherboard
serial port at 38.4k (uucp using ser_f_radboogie) puts the CPU load of
an A2500/20 at about 50%.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: usfw@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Scott Withington)
Subject: Re: Questions about new computers/future chipsets
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:14:07 GMT

In article <8851@orbit.cts.com> chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
>barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec29.165251.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> traynor@fnalo.fnal.gov writes:
>>>Hi--
>>>
>>>Has C= mentioned whether the new machines (A4000, A1200, etc) will 
>>>be able to handle either their low-end or high-end chipsets when they
>>>are released in 1994?  
>>
>>   No.  The chipsets in the A4000 and A1200 are surface-mounted. They 
>>cannot be replaced.
>
>Marc, you didn't answer the question, you just spewed a half-truth.  C= has
>NOT said that the 1200/4000 will not support the new chipsets.  And just
>because the chips are surface mounted, doesn't mean that the 1200/4000
>won't be able to support them.  Ever heard of RTG?

Lewis Eggebrecht said in his speach at WOCA toronto that they are committed to

 providing upgrades to the next generation (mosdly through board swaps and or 
cards add-ons.

-Scott, the amigavangelist




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