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From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Re: Computers for students, by students.
Date: 6 Oct 1992 14:28:38 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.cs.berkeley.edu


technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow) writes:
>We (The association for Computing Machinery, IIT chapter) are working to get
>a computer for student use, to provide the students and student organizations
>with a Bulletin Board System for announcements, discussion, and the like.

Here at Berkeley, the Open Computing Facility is a student-initiated,
student-run Unix workstation facility open for use by anyone on campus.
The university provides the space (a significant issue on a crowded campus)
and the electricity.  The equipment was donated (by Apollo, just before they
were absorbed by HP).

The university was actually rather skeptical about the whole idea at first,
and it's true that these machines have had more maintenance troubles than
the official university-run ones, although that's largely attributable to
the weird Apollo software (simulating Unix under their private os) rather
than to the fact that students are doing the work.  And the size of the
facility (about 20 machines) is grossly unequal to the demand (20,000
undergraduates on campus and 10,000 grad students, although not all have
OCF accounts).  But it's still a very popular and heavily used facility.

The official university machines provide accounts to students only in
connection with particular courses they're taking, and those accounts are
turned off at the end of the semester, so the OCF is really the only way
students can have a permanent e-mail address and file storage.

You could write to general-manager@ocf.berkeley.edu for more information.
From: allanv@vicki.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Vicki Allan x2022)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Self Taught C++
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:42:37 GMT

Keywords: 
  Can anyone suggest a text, video-presentation, labs, etc. for a Class in C++
which would allow the students to learn C++ on their own? The course would
be for students proficient in C and would take the form of a lab attached to
a data structures class.  Thus, I could motivate the C++ experiences, but
I have no time to lecture on C++. If anyone has
offered such a course before, I would appreciate learning about their 
experiences.
  Vicki Allan
From: reid@ss6.cps.msu.edu (Dr Richard J. Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: CS1 Languages, 6th. ed.
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:40:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: msuinfo.1992Sep29.154032.22619
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: reid@ss6.cps.msu.edu


FIRST-COURSE LANGUAGE FOR COMPUTER SCIENCE MAJORS

The latest summary of 253 responses listing the
languages used in the FIRST course for Computer Science
majors (often referred to as CS1) is available
via anonymous ftp from:

  acs.msu.edu

in

 /pub/arch/cs1.lang.4.92.

This is the 6th. edition, 4-9-92.

The 7th. edition is now in preparation, so would you kindly
send me (e-mail, please) any CORRECTIONS if you
have FIRST-HAND, CURRENT knowledge (you're THERE NOW).

Send in ADDITIONS if you have reasonably current
information you're fairly certain is accurate.

I do receive some mail about changes under consideration,
but I don't include anything of this sort in the listing
until you tell me of its finality and effective date.

Please help me get your entry right by answering:

What language(s) is(are) used in the FIRST course the MAJORITY
of your Computer Science majors take as their FIRST CS course
at your University?

Thanks,

Dick
From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: I wanna buy Computer Science videos
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:07:47 GMT
Organization: James Cook University

My Comp Sci dept sometimes uses professionally produced videos to keep
students distracted for an hour or so. Since there are none appropriate to my
subject, I am looking for lists of available videos. While I'm at it, I might
as well collect all such available titles and circulate them to the Dept and
post to the net. So, please email me lists of Comp Sci videos that you are
flogging, or else post a catalogue to:

John Farrell
Dept Computer Science
James Cook University
Townsville 4811
AUSTRALIA

  Thanks,

John
Newsgroups: comp.edu
From: msanseve@sol.UVic.CA (Mary Sanseverino)
Subject: Call for Papers - Canadian Computer Assisted Language Learning Conf.
Summary: 2nd Canadian Computer Assisted Language Learning Conference
Keywords: Computer Assisted Language Learning
Organization: University of Victoria
Date:  1 Oct 92 19:13:02 GMT


This is a Call for Papers and Conference Announcement

		THIS IS A CALL FOR CANADIAN SUBMISSIONS.

			CCALL FOR PAPERS
                              CCALL2
                        April 30 - May 2 1993
                      University of Victoria, BC

The first national conference on CALL in Canada was held at the Universities
of Guelph and York in 1989.  Its success in bringing together about 250
creators, users, thinkers and teachers who were just as curious encouraged
us to plan even then for a second CCALL

As well as presentations by CALL experts from across Canada, there will be

                - Keynote speakers of international, national stature.
                - Poster sessions for CALL projects & presentations
                - Market Place of latest hardware, software from
                  major international & regional suppliers
                - SIGs "Happy Hour"

You are invited to submit a 100-word proposal for a 30 min. presentation
(10 - 15 mins of which should be allowed for discussion), on any aspect of
Computer - Assisted Language Learning.  You may also reserve a following
poster session for a more practical demonstration of your project.

        - grammar, vocabulary, syntax           - authoring programs
        - non-Roman alphabets                   - expert systems
        - collaborative development             - multimedia
        - integrating CALL & curriculum         - future watch

Graduate students and public school teachers are especially encouraged to
submit proposals.

Proposals will be assessed by a national committee and will be submitted with
the grant application in late October.  Proposals may be submitted in English
or French.

A one - page cv including your degrees, position, institutional affiliation,
relevant publications and academic activities is also required for grant
submission.

Submissions may be made electronically (using a standard wp program on
diskette or e - mail), by FAX or by regular mail.  Please include your
address for all three, where available (This is important, in case of
follow - up questions).

DEADLINE FOR PROPOSALS TO BE IN OUR HANDS IS THURSDAY, OCT. 15 1992

You will be notified a.s.a.p. thereafter if you are to be on the programme
and receive a preliminary schedule of proceedings, with other details on
registration and accommodation as they are available.

The organizing Committee intends to publish a selection of the
presentations from the Conference.


THE LANGUAGE CENTRE             Electronically at:              FAX:
University of Victoria          LANGCEN@UVVM.UVIC.CA      (604)721-8778
Box 3045
Victoria BC  V8W 3P4
ATTN: CCALL2

OR YOU MAY CALL IN YOUR SUBMISSION TO (604) 721-8294

Newsgroups: comp.edu,misc.education,k12.ed.tech,k12.ed.comp.literacy,alt.education.distance,comp.lang.logo,bit.listserv.edusig-l
From: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: (Fwd: *C&CD*) Fwd: In-school networking (10)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:30:38 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


Date: 04 Oct 1992 16:39:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lili Velez <lv08+%ANDREW.CMU.EDU@CARNEGIE.BITNET>
Message-id: <oenpOP200WB=4=Rnk8@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Fwd: In-school networking (10)
Reply-to: Computers & Composition Digest (R. Royar) <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>


Anyone have any comments on this person's wishlist?  I for one would hate
to be in a school where the main library could only be accessed by reading
from a terminal or printing out sections of scanned books.  Can you imagine
the # of terminals required....or the print queues!

Lili
Rhet in the Blue Linen Labcoat
------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.edu.composition
From: lfh2k@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Laura Fortune Holderness)
Subject: Re: (Fwd: *C&CD*) "Creative Hearts" newsletter information (5)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:54:22 GMT

Dear "Creative Hearts" publishing group:
	I am very interested in your posting and would like to
know more, please. I am a first year graduate student in Elementary
Education at the Curry School of Education at the Univeristy of
Virginia. I would appreciate a more detailed account of what
your organization does and offers to subscribers. Also, would
you please respond as to the ways a subscription to your
"Creative Hearts" organization/publications might be of service
to an elementary -and more specifically, primary elementary-
school teacher.
	I should think that several of my fellow undergraduate classmates
from Stanford might be interested if the content is at all like
what the abstract suggests. Please respond with some more
specific information at your earliest convenience. My e-mail
address is lfh2k@Virginia.edu.
	Sincerely,
	L. Holderness
Newsgroups: comp.edu.composition
From: sklower@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Sklower)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Is there a way to encapsulate X.25 over TCP/IP ????
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:45:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.44795
Organization: UC Berkeley EECS Technical & Computing Services

In article <6051@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> egonzale@netmon.mty.itesm.mx (Ing. Ernesto Gonzalez) writes:
>Again, how can i encapsulate X.25 traffic over TCP/IP????

Assuming you really do mean that you want to receive All X.25 traffic
(and not just have a PAD/LAT/TCP-IP translator),

CISCO systems does have a way to forward incoming X.25 connections
over a TCP-IP network.  Despite repeated pleas by phone and e-mail
I was never able to get any better information than
``we just forwarded the X.25 packet over a TCP-connection, headers and all''

This begs the question (that I was interested in the time) of how do
you assign DNICs to the recipients of the embeded traffic, or if
you have to declare yourself to be an X.75 gateway, or what tcp
port numbers you use.  I was willing to write up an internet draft
about this, but got no co-operation from the people at cisco.

{The larger motivation for me was pursuing alternative COTS-CLTS
gateways, and having a couple of universities share an X.25 connection
for testing purposes).
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: rajiv@watson.ibm.com (Rajiv Ramaswami)
Subject: Source code for TCP available?
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 19:36:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rajiv@watson.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Research

Could somebody out there please tell me how I can get
hold of the TCP source code release (I believe its part
of BSD) that includes Van Jacobsen's mods such as
header prediction and caching the last connection id?

Also would we need to obtain a license to do this?

thanks!

Rajiv
From: nam@bach.esl.com (Nam Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: SLIP usage (test)
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:00:19 GMT
Organization: ESL Inc., Sunnyvale, CA

Please help me on this matter!

I would like to use SLIP as the communication channel between
two Sparc stations (sunos 4.1).  After obtaining a tar file of 
slip-4.1 version on the net, I installed SLIP on both machines 
(and reboot,...).  I directly connect /dev/ttya of one machine 
to /dev/ttya of the other (using an RS232 cable).

I try "slip-attach..." to connect these two machines together,
but having problem communicating thereafter (e.g. ping, ftp,...)

If you have successfully used SLIP on sunos 4.1, please give 
me a hint to what I should do to test SLIP to see that it is
working under this condition.

Questions:

  1.  Was I right when I installed SLIP on both machines.
  2.  Do I have to "slip-attach" on both machines, or only one?
  3.  How do I test either "ping" or "ftp" using this setup?

Thanks very much,

Nam N.


Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: stevea@i88.isc.com (Steve Alexander)
Subject: Re: SVR4 TLI: Bug or Feature?
Keywords: t_bind, reserved port. SVR4
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:33:28 GMT

In article <4519@tivoli.UUCP> paul@tivoli.com (Paul Greenspan) writes:
>When trying to t_bind() to a port that is already used (bound) instead
>of the call failing and setting errno to EADDRINUSE, it succeeds but gives
>you a different port than the one that you requested.  In addition this new
>port is not a "reserved" port like the one that I requested.

This is the specified behavior for t_bind(3N).  The man page states:

"If the requested address is not available, or if no address is specified in
req (the len field of addr in req is zero) the transport provider may assign
an appropriate address to be bound, and will return that address in the addr
field of ret.  The user can compare the addresses in req and ret to determine
whether the transport provider bound the transport endpoint to a different 
address than that requested."

So, you're stuck with this behavior if you use TLI.

-- 
Steve Alexander, Software Technologies Group    | stevea@i88.isc.com
INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL | ...!{sun,ico}!laidbak!stevea
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: carstede@muug.mb.ca (Eric Carsted)
Subject: Re: SLIP driver Vendors Wanted for SPARC and HP machines
Organization: Manitoba Unix User Group, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:07:46 GMT

In <1992Sep25.162447.21383@mixcom.com> mgic <mgic@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:


>I've been asked to quickly find and recommend a UNIX machine
>on which to run many concurrent SLIP connections. The connections
>will not be through physical serial ports, but ptys (connected
>to X.25).

We are working on the same problem.

>The systems I am considering are SPARC and the new HP machines.
>(I don't yet know if they already come with a SLIP driver or,
>if so, if it can handle my needs.) The machine also requires
>an X.25 interface.

>Stuff deleted cause it goes without saying. (You never know which psudo
port you are connecting to so address allocation must be dynamic.)

We have on our list two possible solutions.

   a) X.25 line into a PAD with the serial lines from then PAD going into a
      terminal server that supports SLIP or PPP.

   b) Gandalf has an all purpose router/terminal server that currently
      supports SLIP for routing purposes.  It is not quite what we are 
      looking for but they are investigating modifying it for our needs.

      The person to talk to there is Evan Caves (evan@gandalf.com). He
      feels that they could put something together in a month.  If more
      people want this kind of product maybe it will raise its' priority.

      
>Recommendations on UNIX machines or SLIP vendors anyone?
To the best of my knowledge HP does not support this over X.25,  they are
investigating this right now.

Just one note, you will have to configue the X.25 connection to send a packet
after lets say 1/10 of a second time out because there is no return or send
char.

>Thank you for your help.

Your welcome;

Eric Carsted
Senior Systems Engineer
Systemhouse  (204) 945-3509
Winnepeg,Mb
carstede@muug.mb.ca
From: tli@skat.usc.edu (Tony Li)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: netmask follies
Date: 4 Oct 1992 18:18:55 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct4.215821.25844@phri.nyu.edu> roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
    
    	Recently, a Sun-3 (running SunOS-3.5.2) got its netmask changed from
    255.255.0.0 to 255.255.255.0.  Naturally, it stopped being able to talk to
    any machines other than those with the same third octet worth of IP address.
    My question is, how would such a thing happen?  I'm presuming nobody walked
    up to the machine and did an ifconfig, but that something (presumably
    eminating from some misconfigured router?) came by on the network causing
    the machine to change it's netmask automatically.  Can anybody fill me in on
    what might have happened?
    
    	Fixing the problem simply involved doing an ifconfig back to the
    proper netmask, but I'm really curious as to what might have happened, and
    what I might do to prevent it from happening again.

The workstation received a broadcast ICMP Mask Reply.  Further action
depends on where the reply came from.

-- 
Tony Li - Escapee from the USC Computer Science Department          tli@usc.edu
		       The net is not what it seems.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: csehm@knuth.mtsu.edu (Mr. Erik Moe)
Subject: Fusion and MS-Kermit (TCP/IP)
Organization: Dept. of CS, Middle TN State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
Distribution: acm
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:46:46 GMT

Has anyone experinced trouble or even tried to get MS-Kermit to talk TCP/IP
with Network Research Corp. "Fusion" product.  I'm tring to get Kermit
to talk to a Hitachi V90/25 running System III.  Fusion has been ported to
the V90.  I tried, and finally gave up, switching to NCSA Telnet.
However, I would like to get Kermit to work because Kermit has a script
language and NCSA does not.  I found two sentences in the Kermit
documentation that reported that there was a problem with Kermit and
Fusion for VAX/VMS.  I called Columbia university, but they were unable
to elaborate.  I also talked to Network Research Corp. They informed me
that the copy of Fusion I was running had been licenced to a third party
in Japan, and as far as I can tell isn't even a complete port.  I believe
that any chances of doing anything with the Fusion side are nil.  If
something could be done it would have to be with MS-Kermit.

Thanks in advance!

Erik Moe
csehm@knuth.mtsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: craig@sics.se (Craig Partridge)
Subject: fast cray tcp/ip
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:09:58 GMT

People were asking a few weeks ago for details on the fast cray implementation.
I had reason to dig up the article today -- it is in the January '91 issue
of ACM SIGCOMM Computer Communication Review.

Craig
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: marka@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Mark Andrews)
Subject: Re: SLIP usage (test)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:55:55 GMT

In article <1485@esl.ESL.COM> nam@bach.esl.com (Nam Nguyen) writes:
>Questions:
>
>  1.  Was I right when I installed SLIP on both machines.

	Yes.

>  2.  Do I have to "slip-attach" on both machines, or only one?

	Yes, both.

>  3.  How do I test either "ping" or "ftp" using this setup?

	Any IP based application can be used to test the link,
	ping is a good choice.

Have you verified the underlying physical circuit, i.e. add a getty to
one end and tip out? Did you use a null modem cable?

What is the output of "netstat -I", "netstat -r -n", and "ifconfig -a"?

Try running "netstat -I interface -i 5" and see if packets are being
queued on the output queue will pinging the remote host.

Are there any messages in /usr/adm/messages relating to slip-attach?

Mark.
From: ken@comanche.sbi.COM (Ken Jones - Consultant)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Nonblocking socket blocking on write
Keywords: socket, tcpip, blocking
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:46:13 GMT
Organization: Salomon Brothers Arbitrage Support, NY,NY

In article <1992Sep25.030030.8755@unlinfo.unl.edu>, romig@cse.unl.edu (Phil Romig) writes:
|> 
|> A question about writing to non-blocking sockets;
|> 
|> I'm working on a fairly straight forward single server/multiple client
|> system.  I'm using the socket layer with the tcp/ip protocol; stream mode.
|> All I/O needs to be done asynchronously. 
|> 
|> To this end I open the sockets in a very straight forward manor, make
|> them non-blocking with fcntl flags (FNDELAY | FASYNC), and then
|> trap for SIGIO.
|> 
|> The trouble seems to come when I make several send() calls in quick
|> succession.  Because the sockets are set for no-blocking I use select()
|> to see if the socket I want is ready for writing.  When I call send()
|> several times very quickly with small (aprox 4096 bytes) buffers, after the
|> fourth or fifth send the socket select() statement reports that the
|> socket I want is blocked.  It remains blocked for between 5 and 10
|> seconds, and then allows four or five more quick sends.

We had to build a similar system for sending real-time data around
trading floors on wall street.  Delays of 5 - 10 seconds are all that
unreasonable, although we avoided the FASYNC mode.

If you need your server to keep going, while one of your clients is
blocked you need to add another layer of buffering.  When your client
socket blocks, send the message to a buffer (file, memory, whatever is
most appropriate).  Then add that client to your main select for writing.
When it wakes up, continue writing out of your buffer.  If you have a new
message while the client is still blocked, write it to the end of the buffer.
When you get to the end of buffer, you can clean up.

This works for us, since all of our information is bursty.
-- 
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|   Ken Jones                                                           |
|   Expert Database Systems, Inc.                                       |
|   ken@mr_magoo.sbi.com              "Where the future begins tomorrow |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>
Subject: re: rlogin client 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: "David K.Y. Yau" <yau@cs.utexas.edu>
Organization: University of Washington
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:31:24 GMT

David Yau -

     The system rlogin is setuid root, for the reasons you outlined.  The only
way for you to build an rlogin program from its source is to have superuser
access.

-- Mark --
From: phillips@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: LM2.1 & WinQVT 2.X on WD8003 card????
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:22:17 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

Hi
On our current system we are trying run together
	LAN Manager 2.1
	WinQVT 2.7
	over Western Digital (WD8003) ethernet cards.

Does anyone have the above configuration working.  
Thanks in advance....

	Doug
________________________________________________
Doug Phillips
Faculty of Information Technology
Queensland University of Technology
Brisbane	QLD	Ausrtralia
E-mail: d.phillips@qut.edu.au
From: dclunie@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: talk and ntalk - RFC's anyone ?
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:58:05 GMT
Organization: Her Master's Voice
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au


I have been playing around with the bsd sources for talk, as I wanted
to change them around a bit to include such things as logging
converstations, providing encrypted conversations, and possible an
OpenWindows interface to talk, and I quickly discovered that there
were two talk protocols, an older one one (talk on 517/udp) and that
the sources I had talked to other machines via (ntalk on 518/udp).
Needless to say my Sun uses the older one so I can't talk to myself :).

Anyway, I am after two things -

1. the source to the older talk so that I can figure out what it does
for entertainment value and Sun compatibility,

2. An RFC that describes the talk protocol(s). I couldn't find one
of these. Maybe it doesn't exist. maybe someone wants to write one
as this protocol seems pretty universally used in its various forms.
I don't feel qualified either technically or historically to do it
myself if you know what I mean.

-- 
David Clunie (dclunie@itd.adelaide.edu.au)