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From: biddleco@mizar.usc.edu (Susan Biddlecomb)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Head Injuries (was Scarey Breathing)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 11:09:22 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

We had a similar incident, when Angelica ran into the kitchen when the floor
had been freshly waxed and she took a flying skid (like a flying leap but 
she left skid marks in the wax) across the room into the door jam.

At first she seemed OK, she got a big bump right away, which is a good
sign, her eyes looked OK and she was alert. But about 1/2 hour later she
fell asleep -- and she was so soundly asleep we couldn't awaken her for
about 30 minutes. This was the day the L.A. riots broke out (she slipped
about the time the news was showing people being pulled from vehicles and
beaten), and we were a bit apprehensive at the thought of going out under
those circumstances (hospital was about 4 miles away, at the time it was
about 4 miles north of the riot area, but we were the only people of non-color
:-) within a mile or so and we didn't want to become targets of violence).

When Angelica did finally wake up, she was drowsy and lethargic, so we knew
we had to go. The emergency room at the hospital was gearing up for crisis, 
and they kept telling us how long it would take to be seen (after giving her
an initial check by a nurse). Three hours later, when she finally got her CAT
scan, she was as alert and feisty as ever. Sitting in the emergency room
we had a great view of the paramedics dashing in and out and telling stories
of being shot at.

The CAT scan was normal, but under the circumstances the doctor said
it was correct to bring her in. She did have a monster lump on her
head for about a week.

And the rioting didn't hit our neighborhood until the following day.

Susan


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From: oday@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Vicki O'Day)
Subject: Trip to island - additions to list
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:39:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA


Add baby or child Benedryl to your list.  This is something you can
give in case of an allergic reaction to something.  Our daughter was
exposed to a tiny bit of peanut butter at age 11 months while she was
at daycare and had a scary reaction (hives all over her face and head,
vomiting), and since then we've kept our own supply of liquid Benedryl
at each childcare center she's attended.

Don't forget a nighlight if you use one at home.  This is the one
thing we always forget when we go somewhere, and our daughter always
wakes up in the middle of the night complaining of the dark.  The
first time was when we went backpacking when she was 11 months old,
and we had to shine the flashlight in the tent for awhile until
she fell asleep :-).

Vicki O'Day
oday@hpl.hp.com
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From: Tamara Shaffer <SASTLS@mvs.sas.com>
Subject: Re: Girls names - "M"
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:51:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

>in article: <1993Jan21.205107.9014@pts1.pts.mot.com> Alice Bertelson
> wrote: 
>
>Hi,
>
>My husband and I have decided it's time to think about starting baby #3
>we have a son who is 4 yrs old called MATTHEW ROBERT and an 18 mth old
>daughter called MELANIE KATE
>
>IF #3 is a boy we already have a name picked out .... MICHAEL DAVID
>but we can't seem to think of another girls name beginning with an M
>that we BOTH like!!
>
>any suggestions that I can put before hubby are appreciated!!
>
>Thanks in advance
>
 
We chose Melissa.  I also like Molly and Marissa.  Isn't Reid's
daughter Maera?  That's pretty.  Good luck!
 
TAMARA
mommy to Melissa (5/1/91) and ? (due 5/8/93)
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From: kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Keith E Gatling)
Subject: Re: What kind of car do you drive/3 kids
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:21:10 EST

In article <SKATZ.93Jan21124023@kariba.bbn.com> skatz@bbn.com (Susan Katz)
writes:

   > What kind of car do you drive with 3 kids--all of whom are in
   > car seats?  There will be 2 Fisher Price carseats and a century
   > infant seat (rear facing).  Other car concerns are price and
   > repair record.

Well, the simple answer for me is anything that's a five seater.  That would
include Ford Escorts, Chevy Cavaliers, Geo Prizms, and tons of other cars.
It would *not* include Chevy (or Geo) Spectrums or any other small car with
only four seatbelts in it.  And that's the key thing...not how many people
you can theoretically squeeze into the sucker, but how many seatbelts there
are.  My sister-in-law has a small Dodge Colt (smaller than our Spectrum),
but it has five seatbelts in it, so she can take herself, her husband, and
her kid (in carseat) along with my wife and I in it.  With our car, and NY
State law, we can only take four people unless one of the five is an adult
sitting in the back seat with no seatbelt on (and we've had to do this from
time to time).


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Keith E Gatling                                  kgatling@mailbox.syr.edu *
*          Opinions?  I've got plenty of them.  Just ask my wife!           *
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From: glb@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Gina Bull)
Subject: Re: Is There A Mommy Track for Technical Professionals?
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:45:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.061356.14467@fuug.fi> an6814@anon.penet.fi writes:
>I'd like to work part-time in order to spend more time with my infant,
>It seems as if a part-time career is non-existent in software engineering
>and in professional/technical jobs in general.  It's looked down upon

This question, and Keith Garrard's "response", pushed the button
on one of my pet peeves. So here goes.

The problem is that employers in our society have managed to
convert most of the population to believe that the proper
priority is
   
    1. Job
    2. Family

This is ridiculous.

There is no reason for a professional of either gender to be
expected to be on call 24-hours for their job (with only a
FEW life-critical exceptions). There is no justification for
a software engineer to be expected to work overtime routinely.
If the current staff cannot meet deadlines, that is because in
most cases the employer hasn't hired enough staff. Employers in
this industry are getting away with running shameless job-shop
conditions because it has become accepted practice for programmers
to put in 60 hour weeks. The employer benefits, and questions
such as "How can I have a family with this type of schedule?"
arise. It shouldn't have to be a choice!

You may have decided that part-time was your only choice because
then you won't have to work over 40 hours a week. Or maybe you
really do want less than full time.  If employers didn't have so
many full-time employees bamboozled into thinking it is normal
to work overtime, they'd *need* part-time workers to fill out
their staffs.

It is not hard to have a 40-hour a week job and a family when
there is access to good daycare.  It is impossible to have both
even with great daycare if the schedule is erratic and overlong.
Poor company management should not prevent employees from having
normal lives (and this goes for non-parents, too).
From: esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: bay area picnic
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:02:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


I have received lots of interest for a m.k. picnic - 
The best date for the most people is Feb. 27 (Saturday).

If anyone else is interested - please email me at gator%esprit.uucp@netcom.com
and I'll put you on the list and send out more details when I return on
Sunday.

I am currently at Usenix in San Deigo and can't access Esprit, which
is why I am posting to the net - I haven't forgotten about all of
you who responded so far.

Oh, rain local will be at my apartment complex's rec. room and
sunny local is TBA. I live in Mt. View, which has some nice parks-
or we could meet at Mitchell Park again. I'm looking into all of
the possibilities.
 
-Ali Perry

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From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: chicken pox in a nursing baby?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:12:50 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: classy.jpl.nasa.gov

In article <9301282148.AA01593@ROC.MBCR.BCM.TMC.EDU> pburch@cmb.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>
>Friends of ours now have chicken pox. I had it myself at the age
>of 1.5 years, so I'm okay.
>
>The question is, does nursing a chicken pox-immune mother give a baby
>of nine months immunity to chicken pox?
>
>If not, and the baby catches it, how likely is it that the baby
>will fail to get immunity to chicken pox?
>
>I'm wondering what the magic age may be, after which immunity is
>likely--I seem to recall that a baby who catches c.p. below a
>certain age is unlikely to develop immunity for the future.

Jeffrey caught chicken pox at 11 months, and he was still nursing. I heard
that 6 months is generally considered the cutoff for keeping the immunity
for life. 

On the bright side, 11 months was an easy time to catch it. He had a normal
case, and was really too young to scratch. He was 'sick' for one day, and
spotty for 6, but it was only that one day that he really uncomfortable. It
was nice to get it out of the way (yes, I do know some people get it more then
once). 

Laura Floom

p.s. I didnt notice it was Paula who posted this, and my first though was 
"I bet Paula posts some useful info from her database". Paula - you are 
supposed to be our resident expert on this sort of thing ;-)
From: lynnf@informix.com (Lynn Felise)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: mini-pills and nursing
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:14:58 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1jkchcINN6nl@male.EBay.Sun.COM> valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge) writes:
>In article <1jk06tINNesg@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>>
>>karen@angelo.amd.com (Karen Black) writes:
>>> day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day ) writes:
>
>I got my first period (while exclusively nursing) exactly 4 months
>after my son was born.  I too am curious about others.  I was hoping
>it wouldn't return for a while longer.  What has been the experience
>of others?  Was is similar or different for subsequent pregnancies?
>
>Valerie


I got mine exactly a month after both my kids were born.... and 
exclusively breastfed... what a drag.... 8( !!!!

-- 
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%%   Lynn M. Felise                                   lynnf@informix.com  %%
%%   Zachary and Malia's Mom                      Informix Software Inc.  %%
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From: tanner@sundog.nas.nasa.gov (Leigh Ann Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Is There A Mommy Track for Technical Professionals?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:48:38 GMT
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <301@cnmhnet.UUCP>, keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan19.061356.14467@fuug.fi> an6814@anon.penet.fi writes:
|> >I'd like to work part-time in order to spend more time with my infant,
|> >It seems as if a part-time career is non-existent in software engineering
|> >and in professional/technical jobs in general.  It's looked down upon,
|> >I am torn.  On one hand, I've got lots of time invested in an education
|> >and a career.  On the other, these first precious months of my baby's
|> >life will never come again.  My husband's job pays twice what mine does,
|> >A Mommy seeking a balance
|> 
 
|> or working part-time [if possible] or staying at home and raising
|> the younguns and adjusting your lifestyle to a lower income.  
|> Obviously, these things should have been thought about BEFORE you
|> had the younguns, but you now have to live with your mistake.  
|> Whatever you do, please do your co-workers a favor and choose one

Gee, are you really as dumb as you seem??  You obviously have no
children of your own.

|> or the other.  Don't shortchange them by staying at home when the
|> youngun coughs one time, or rush out in the afternoon when the
|> school calls to have you pick up the youngun cause he sneezed.  
|> Your coworkers deserve to have someone there that they can depend on

And just what does "their share" mean??
|> to do their share.
|> --Keith
|> 

Leigh Ann
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From: hackney@boston.sinet.slb.com (Kirsten Werne)
Subject: Re: mini-pills and nursing
Reply-To: hackney@boston.sinet.slb.com (Kirsten Werne)
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies CAD/CAM Division
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:25:30 GMT

Tracy Larabee writes:

Let me put in a plug for my kind of contraceptive: a cervical cap.
They do have to be refitted after a baby comes, but they are better
than a diaphragm in other ways.  I got bladder infections with a
diaphragm, but never did with a cap.  I had no trouble putting it in
or taking it out (less trouble really than I had with a diaphragm),
but some people find it awkward at first.  The best part: you can put
it in and leave it in for 48 hours without adding any more goop (great
for hot weekends).  They are pretty small and not too intrusive (my
husband and I affectionately call it "the bozo nose" or just "the
nose").  They only require a tiny bit of contraceptive jelly, so a
tube lasts a long time.  They also worked very well for me: No babies
for years and years, and then when we decided to have a child, I got
pregnant very quickly (three times, no less).

Cervical caps don't work for everyone, and it is crucial to get a
really good fitting (and good practitioners are not real common), but
if you get a good fit, they are great.  I don't have access to the
woman who fit my original cap, so I am really crossing my fingers that
my current doctor can set me up with a good cap next week at my
postpartum appointment.  

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Just a word of warning, according to by ob/gyn, this is not the best choice
if you have ever had a "bad" pap smear.  Apparently, because the cap hugs
the cervix so tightly, the chance of cervical problems increases greatly.
(at least this was my understanding).  I have only once had a bad pap test,
but I then had to have a colposcopy to make sure it wasn't anything too
awful.  All was fine, but my ob/gyn said not to use my cap anymore.  Bummer!
Good thing we wanted to start trying to have another baby anyway...brag time,
it took us no time at all (< month).  It sure is fun trying though.

Anyone considering the cap should at least ask about the possible cervical
problems...just my $.02.

Kirsten Werne
Mom to Alexander, 19 months,  and ??? due 4/9/93
From: oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: July deliveries/teaching hospitals (was Re: students/interns at delivery)
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <SKATZ.93Jan22103527@kariba.bbn.com>, skatz@bbn.com (Susan Katz) writes...
>Most residencies start July 1st.  Delivering a baby at a teaching
>hospital in July can be interesting.  
> 
>I also had a baby in July.  I found the residents to be wonderful, so
>I was lucky.  I did have one medical student visit me often during my
>inducement (it took a while to get started), who was very
>knowledgeable and very personable.  During the transition phase of
>labor, another med student stopped in.  

Just want to point out that residents are like employees of 
the hospital.  Medical students/interns are not.  It would be 
very difficult (impossible?) to refuse treatment from residents.  
However, there is a big difference between 1st year residents, 
2nd year residents, 3rd year residents, etc...  If someone seems 
really unsure of themselves (pulling out an ob/gyn textbook as 
the previous poster mentioned is a good clue), refuse treatment 
from them and ask for someone more experienced.

In New York State (probably other states too) residents must 
perform a medical procedure X number of times (it varies) under 
supervision from a doctor, before they are credentialed to 
perform the procedure on their own.  So it sounds very peculiar 
to me that a resident would have such trouble putting in an 
internal monitor.  They should be able to efficiently and 
correctly perform any procedures they are authorized to do.  
Also, they are not supposed to do anything they are NOT 
authorized to do (and can get in mucho big trouble for doing 
things without proper authorization).  The resident fumbling and 
pulling out a textbook makes no sense to me.

In New York State medical students may be credentialed to perform 
some very basic procedures, like putting in an IV, but they are 
there mainly to observe.  You can certainly refuse treatment from 
medical students, or ask that they not be present.

- Peggy -
From: lynn@elan.Elan.COM (Lynn Gazis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: What we did and what we want them to do <was Re: Potheads>
Date: 20 Jan 93 00:22:05 GMT
Reply-To: lynn@elan (Lynn Gazis)
Organization: Elan Computer Group, Inc., Mountain View, CA

I can think of several things I did when I was younger which
I want to discourage my children from doing, but I can't
think how I would talk to them about it.

1. I rode in cars driven by people who were high.  I *really*
want my children not to do this.  The problem is, I also *really*
didn't want to do this at the time I did it; I just was incapable
of detecting whether people were high or drunk until well after
they were beyond the point where they should be driving.  I
didn't realize until after I had gotten in the car that they
were high.  So I am not sure how I would ensure that my children
wouldn't do this.

2. Sex.  I made an effort to be responsible about this, as I
understood it: I made sure to avoid any unwanted pregnancy by
only having intercourse with one man before I met my husband,
and being on the pill at the time.  The thing I regret is,
I wasn't assertive enough with men who wanted to pursue me
when I wasn't interested.  I waited too long to be firm in
telling them no, I gave explanations when asked for them and
then got arguments, when I should have just told them not to
bother arguing, and I sometimes allowed things I didn't really
want.  I'm not sure how best to talk to kids about that.  I'm
also not sure how to best strike a balance in discussing the
dangers and pleasures of sex (I want to encourage responsibility
without sounding as if I think sex is a bad thing).

As for drugs, I can't honestly say I really do regret my experiences
with drugs.  I smoked pot about once a week for about a year,
tried cocaine once and mushrooms once, and then gave it all
up because computers were more interesting.  I used to drink
about half a glass of wine a month and then gave it up because
I didn't like it that much.  None of it was that risky, and
I was careful about the amount and circumstances I used.  Neither
was it all that fun.  If I had it to do over, I would skip the
cocaine.  On the other hand, I'd probably be happier to have
my kids skip all of it, since you never know for certain who
will be able to handle it and who will turn out to be an addict.
And I also am not really sure how I would discuss my drug 
experience with my kids.  It seems to me that my drug experience
would only encourage them to go ahead.  Some of my friends'
drug experiences, on the other hand, were more disturbing
(and one reason for my avoiding drugs now - the other is just
that time on drugs would be time I couldn't spend doing a lot
of other things which interest me, and which take too much
concentration to do on drugs).

Lynn Gazis-Sax
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From: ashley@oar.net (Ashley Burns)
Subject: Re: July deliveries/teaching hospitals (was Re: students/interns at delivery)
Organization: OARnet, Columbus, OH.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:15:46 GMT

In article <SKATZ.93Jan22103527@kariba.bbn.com> skatz@bbn.com (Susan Katz) writes:
>Most residencies start July 1st.  Delivering a baby at a teaching
>hospital in July can be interesting.  A friend of mine had a 1st year
>intern attempt to install an internal baby monitor.  After a lot of
>hassle (including reading a Intro OB text book in front of my friend!),
>the resident declared that her gloves were the wrong size!  That was
>my friend's first kid.  In hindsight she would have put a stop to that
>resident's work when the text book popped out.
>
>I also had a baby in July.  I found the residents to be wonderful, so
>I was lucky.  I did have one medical student visit me often during my
>
>Any more July 1st-year-resident stories?

Yes, sort of. We delivered in July when the residents are new. In our 
delivery, which started off okay but ended up in a light epidural (and it 
being turned off in the middle of a 2.5 hour pushing--yuck) and then a vacuum 
extraction. The first vacuum extraction unit they brought in didn't work,
so they brought in another unit. That was okay until the second unit didn't
work, either, and one of the new residents started reading aloud the long 
directions. They ended up taking parts from the second unit to make the 
first unit work, reading the directions aloud, while I was there waiting 
and pushing with the epidural nearly worn off, knowing the baby couldn't
come--UGH! But I suppose it was not especially the residents' fault; the
ob and seemingly a lot of staff were there, too, trying to get everything 
together in short order. But having the residents around wondering what
was going on added to the feeling that I would never deliver, and everything
was chaotic.

Ashley Burns =-= Info Services, OARnet =-= Columbus, Ohio =-= ashley@oar.net
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From: apdolan@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (dolan andrew)
Subject: INTERRACIAL CHILDREN
Summary: INTERRACIAL CHILDREN
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:50:40 GMT
Keywords: INTERRACIAL CHILDREN

I am a white male who has tended to be involved with black women
and will very likely have interracil children in the ext few years. Does anyone
know of any books concerning the raising the raising of
interracial children? The nearest thing I have come across is
"Interrace" magazine, which has some articles and some leads
on support groups. If any one has a notable story,
would also be interested in hearing fron you.Am currently
a graduate student at the University of Illinois.

Andy, apdolan@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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