HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran Mohan Karnik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Hung Parliament in the Mother Country : -)
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:41:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In <ku9sucINN5sq@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:

>In article <1992Apr9.235430.19819@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>, aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha) writes:
>|> 
>|>    I'm not sure if this is relevent in SCI, but I'm going ahead anyway :-)
>|>    Heard it on the BBC that a hung parliament is likely in Britain, judging
>|>    from exit polls. It is highly unclear and rather debatable, that Labour/
>|>    Conservative will win the highest number of seats. (6.00p.m CST news)
>|>    Labour seems to be committed to an increase in taxes mainly to improve
>|>    the oft-beaten health care system, whereas the Tories have promised to
>|>    reduce taxes (HA!). PM John Major blamed the global financial crisis as
>|>    the cause for the ravaged economy.

	Well, the experts are confounded, the exit polls have been proved wrong
and the Tories are back in power, with a comfortable majority of around 15-19
seats. Although their strength in the Parliament is much reduced from the 
1987 figure, Major still called it a "magnificient" victory, because the polls
had been predicting a hung parliament with Labour being the largest single
party.....


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Neeran  Karnik - Dept. of Computer Science, University of Minnesota
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From: ss7k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shvetank Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Zero
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:50:49 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts From Captions of netnews.soc.culture.indian:
 9-Apr-92  Re: Zero                       Anil Trivedi@curie.uchic (1423)   
>Take all the "intellectual property" debate: The West is not looking "up" 
>to you or me when they tell us that something is theirs and we should
>acknowledge it. Of course, the profit motive makes them shriller than
>is good for anyone. :-)
> 

True, but it seems that we are always fighting this insularity of
Americans, and thus a quest for truth becomes hysterical and shrill
enough to be labeled as Political Correctness, or desperation.  But your
point is valid.


Shvetank


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES  (only for stupid GUJJUS)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:23:23 GMT

In article <19543@chopin.udel.edu> cobra@chopin.udel.edu (Jay Bhartkumar Patel) writes:
>
>
>Q.   What is the diffrence between a Gujju and a Polak?
>
>A.   Gujju's are dum enough to make fun of their own people.
		 ^^^^^
If you meant dumb, I agree....  but for a slightly different reason...

Njan
From: y5ej@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: r/t fares info req.to India
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:00:36 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

I am going to India for the summer. Does anyone have an	
idea on what the fares are running at, and which are the
airlines offering it. I am looking for a roundtrip from
JFK, N.Y. to bangalore and back.
                                thanks

      E-Mail to:  Y5EJ@CORNELLA.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon,  6 Apr 1992 12:55:53 -0400 
From: Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: More on TN chief

Subject: re: Re: More on TN chief
To: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: REGIS@s35.prime.com
Date: 06 Apr 92 12:37:36 EST

U r just a SOB. Your message is disguesting and not worth replying
to. I just hope the Tamils in TN get slaughterred. Cant be bothered
for them. Hope they r wiped out of Sri Lanka too,. 


My reply for this fellew:

What I wrote was based on hard & cold reality of the mess.
I expect provocative replies. I know reality is hard to bite. Especially
this one.   It's (the situation in SL)a big fire that will not be
quenched till it takes all of its victims.  But, my enmity for certain
politicians don't extend
to the people of Tamil Nadu. I have friends from there and other family
connections. You are not a Tamil! If you are, then I feel sorry for you.

Enough said.
Suresh
From: ssr@siberia.cypress.com (Bapcha / PROM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Actually....
Keywords: More suggestions for NEW newsgroups.
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:05:20 GMT
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Originator: ssr@sunshine

Suggestions for NEW newsgroups:

soc.culture.TN.Karnataka.water.dispute
soc.culture.golden.temple
(lots of soc and culture in the above two).

soc.culture.telugu (and all other relevant languages).....
misc.rupee2dollar (and dollar2rupee)
alt.big-ass.sridevi
alt.ilike.sridevis.bigass
alt.tight-ass.???  (I am not too current on actresses)
rec.hindi.bashing
rec.(any other language).bashing

and of course the matrimonial groups....
-- 
Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-4866
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:13858 soc.culture.nepal:183
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.nepal
Subject: The Significance of the Puraanaas  in Hinduism.
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:48:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16608
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo


  THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE PURAANAAS IN RELATION TO THE GITA AN THE VEDAS
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------

The nucleus of the Hindu philosophy is centered on the Upanishads, the Vedas,   
and the Gita. All three are unanimous in their conclusion about the 
existance of the all pervading Supreme Lord or the Paramaatman. 

The sage Veda-Vyaasa has done the thankless job of organizing the Vedas, 
the Upanishads and also in the recording of the Gita. In addition
to this, he has also written vast sections of the Puraanaas(Tales of
the Hindu dieties).

Mahaa Tapasvi Sage Vyaasa knew that a religion totally based on the abstract concept
of the supreme-self would not find instant appeal to the layman on the
streets. For this sake, he composed the puraanaas. 

The puraanaas are the stories about the virtues of the individual dieties
in the Hindu religion. The number of stories is countless. 

At this point one may ask: is there any contradiction between the Puraanaas
and the Vedic thought or in that matter the doctrine of the Gita. These
tales look very simple and sometimes silly in comparison to the high
philosophy expoused in the Gita and the upanishads to the undiscerning.

But on closer look, these tales are in total agreement to what has been
preached in the Vedas. In the Puraanaas, the supreme Almighty has been
called Vishnu. In fact, the various powers which Vishnu has according
to the Puraanaas are similar to the properties of the Supreme Creator
as expoused in the Vedas and the Gita. One should read the Vishnu-
Sahasranaama, which calls out Vishnu in 1000 different names, each
describing his various qualities.  Vishnu is also called as the Lord
to whom all ultimately reach. Even the other powerful Gods are said
to originate from him. This is nothing different from the qualities
of the supreme Brahman in the Vedas, except that here the Supreme self
has been given a form. IMO, this is not objectionable. If God is
omni-present, why can't he be picturised as Vishnu.

The great Shankara, who wrote commentaries on the Vedas and the Gita
and who was the founder of the MONISTIC philosophy in Hinduism,
himself wrote poetries praising the various dieties in the Hindu religion.
The Puraanaas were written with the object to induce people into
the Bhakti-maarga(path of devotion), by expousing in it the 
super-human qualities of the Lord. But THESE TALES DO NOT CONTRADICT
THE JNAANA MAARGA(PATH OF KNOWLEDGE) school. 

In my next article, I will talk about the significance of the
Avataars of Vishnu or the Supreme lord.

sivaram. H
---------------------------------------------------------------
Life is complex, Make it simple.
From: venu@cirrus.com (Venu Nayar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: On the existence of Paramatma
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:55:05 GMT
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.

In <92102.173653U08991@uicvm.uic.edu> U08991@uicvm.uic.edu writes regarding
the interpretation involving various quotations of Sankara:

>I don't. Remember, the net is to DISCUSS issues, not to hold someone's
>sayings in the highest esteem. If you feel that Leslie was criticizing
>Sankara, post an article presenting the logic that we must use in
>evaluating Sankara's sayings, you know, to confirm that what he is saying
>is not something that he pulled out of thin air but actually something
>meaningful. Until then, what Leslie says makes a heckuva lot more sense
>to me than what Sankara said.

Interesting, Anil...I seem to remember you saying that all religious opinion
and related quotes are subject to personal interpretation. Or, does that
only apply when *your* views are *not* logical? 
-- 
Venu Nayar			|		Internet: venu@cirrus.com
Cirrus Logic Inc.		|		(510)-226-2100 X3737
Yield to Temptation ... it may not pass your way again.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udumudi@maxine.wpi.edu (u v babu srinivas)
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:46:41 GMT

In his article <> surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training) writes:

=> If the dating-->romantic love marriage system SO SUPERIOR
=> to the arranged marriage system then how come:
=> 
=> 	(1)  About 50% of US marriages end up in divorce (didn't
=> 		the couple KNOW their partner pretty well?).  Why

so you assume that the situation would remain as it is in india 
if women were as independent (how much ever they are) as in usa?

=> 	(2)  So many wives in the US are controlled, beaten, emotionally
=> 		abused and raped if they were so WISE as to CHOOSE and KNOW
=> 		their mate before marriage.

"So many" is definitely very less. and no one is infallible. in this
case, the woman, may be, has no other go (whatever the reason might be).

=> Either the above two remarks are false, or the above two remarks
=> are much stronger for arranged marriages.  I say that they are

the social conditions differ. divorce is not as acceptable as it 
is here. even if the indian woman is educated and is self-dependent,
she wouldn't dare to go for divorce (in most cases)

but, as you point out, even after love marriages, liberation and
all that stuff, if the marriage failure rate here is as bad, then
there is definitely something wrong.. what? 

=> --Surajit Mukheree (a.k.a. O.P., the Original Poster)

-- srinivas
From: kodavar@eemips.tamu.edu (Friendly Ghost)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:20:40 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <wduP5ju00WBNI3=t4M@andrew.cmu.edu> sn00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sudha Neelakantan) writes:

... stuff deleted

>>when they got married.  But human beings change, grow, mature,
>>flower, etc.  And so either they might not know their partner
>>now, or might know that they don't want to be together anymore.
>>Neither possibility implies failure, at least to me.
> 
>I think it does imply a failure, I wouldn't want to marry a person
>unless I felt that I respected them enough to want to be a supportive
>partner regardless of their changes and feel that its probably not worth
>getting married unless I go into it w/ the assumption of permanency.  I
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>would rather just live in w/ them or whatever
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

living  with someione and breaking  up, sounds like failure too to me. 
its just that it is beautifully sugar coated... !!

Ravi

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:13696 soc.culture.indian.american:1704
From: pankaj@pub2.bu.edu (Pankaj Tyagi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american
Subject: Info regarding visitors visa to F1
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:13:51 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Distribution: usa
Organization: Information Technology, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: pankaj@pub2.bu.edu

Hi all,
	I am posting this query for a friend of mine. Net.Visa.gurus
please help !!!

	A friend of mine has come to US on July 1991. Since then he
has been studying at a bay area school in the 12th std. He is
graduating in may. He applied and got an extension on his visitors
visa last Dec for 6 months and now his visa expires by July 1992.

	He has already got admission from a couple of 2 year colleges
in the bay are and he will recieve I20 from them.

***	The question is, how can he convert his visa status to the
required visa? Does he have to convert to 

	1] F1
	2] J1

	Or what ever.

***	Second question is: does he have to leave the country to get
his visa. Can he get it from US or he has to go back to India.


*** 	Third Question: Is it important that to have an admission in
a four year program or will a two year program suffice.


	Your help is much appreciated.

Pankaj

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From: anantk@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Oscar - Rohini Hattangadi
Date: 8 Apr 1992 20:30:53 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu
Keywords: Oscar

chansze@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (CHAN  Sze Keong) writes:

>In article <atulpule.702678490@cunews> atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:
>>
>>
>>I think that Rohini Hattangadi had got an Oscar for best supporting
>>actress. Someone (I don't know who had got an Oscar for costume
>>design for the movie Gandhi.).
>>
>>
>	I give up. Rohini Hattangadi DID NOT win oscar. She won
>the British academy award (brit. equivalent to oscar). 

>>Ajit Tulpule.

>srini
>email:srini@comm.toronto.edu

bhanu athaiya got the costume design oscar for gandhi
anant
From: sebas-j@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joseph Sebastian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ***** ???????????? ***************
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:40:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB
Originator: sebas-j@autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu


In article <1992Apr12.200720.23196@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman) writes:

>
>  I was reading, one dreary noon,
>  About the Schrodinger's cat,
>  About Quantum Ojectivity
>  and strange things like that.
>
> Will complete this later. Anybody care to fill in?
>

	saddened, humbled was i,
	to learn this fertile feline
	(whose name is raskalnikov)
	is now pickled in brine.

	damn you! i cried, no goodbye?
	you owed me that, you mangy mutt
	how quickly you forget the times i kicked
	across the mess floor your ample butt.

>-PB

the pressure is beginning to show....
-- 
 _________________________________________________________________
 joseph sebastian                                                  
 sebas-j@acsu.buffalo.edu                                           
 V073SL4N@UBVMS.BITNET                                              
Organization: Software Development, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 01:31:23 -0400 
From: "Sohan C. Ramakrishna-Pillai" <sohan+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: More Tiger trash
	<1992Apr7.205025.21852@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>

>In article <0dsIECi00Vp6AEqI4K@andrew.cmu.edu>, rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith
> Ravindiran Suresh) writes:
> 
> I'm just glad there were no Tamil soldiers in the 'IPKF Outfit'
> Otherwise, it would have been much more painful to digust.
> 

Here are a couple of things I remember from an old issue of INDIA TODAY.
While analyzing the tactics the LTTE used to fight the IPFK, it states
that one of the first things the Tigers used to try on sighting a patrol
was to snipe at the Tamil-literate person, who in virtually all cases
would be an Indian Tamilian soldier - apparently every patrol had one
and the IPFK guys were foolish enough to place him in some obvious and
prominent location within the group. A practice which makes admirable
sense while fighting a guerilla war in the sense that it leaves the
patrol without a person who can communicate with the locals, but belies
the assertion that no Tamilians were in the IPFK.
Yet another incident I recall is that apparently in some location, there
was a family or group which consisted of 10-20 women who seemed to be
scared and went into a hut or house or something upon seeing an IPFK
patrol. The women were led (head of the group) by a matriarch or
grandmother figure. This IPFK patrol was headed by an Indian Tamilian
who went inside alone and tried to reassure the women by speaking to
them in Tamil and assuring them that they were OK. The old woman pulled
out a gun from under her blouse/sari/something and shot him.

I hope that Ranjit and his ilk realize that whatever the old situation
may have been w.r.t. discrimination etc., the LTTE is not going to
provide a solution now. In fact, I wonder if he would like solutions of
the kind which LTTE might offer. :-) One must note that even when,
thanks to Indian intervention, I might add, no matter what other
regional/geopolitical gains India may have received in the bargain, a
process was set in motion which would have solved complaints of
discrimination etc. by Sri Lankan Tamils, it was the inability of the
Tigers to see beyond their Tigerish mentality of looking for solutions
with guns that came in the way and led to the guerilla war in which,
sadly, with the blurring of civilian and guerilla, innocent civilian Sri
Lankan Tamilians did not escape from unfortuante experiences at the hand
of the IPFK. Now, you don't have the IPFK bugging Sri Lankan Tamils
either and you can wish for the best from the Sri Lankan army or the
Tigers. Personally, and since I can dispassionately view it from a
distance, I would hope the Sri Lankan army can settle this lousy
business with minimal hassle. I do believe that Sri Lankans have in
general woken up to the fact that they cannot have a country where one
segment of the population may be discriminated against and do not expect
a return to any of the discrimiatory policies of the past, which have
fuelled Tamil separatist ideas and led to the current unfortunate
situation.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chee13h@jetson.uh.edu (Bhogeswara, Rao K.)
Subject: green card
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:11:00 GMT




I got married recently and my wife is still in India. I
may have to go to India to take my green card interview.
Has anyone gone to India recently to take the green card
interview or would you know of anyone done this?
Is it risky to take this interview in India? 
Please send your replies to bhogeswara@uh.edu and I will
summerize the replies and post them back on the NET.

I really appreciate your help on this matter.

e-mail: bhogeswara@uh.edu
phone# 713 668-9738

Address:

Department of Chemical Enginerring
University of Houston
4800 Calhoun
Houston, Texas 77204-4792.


Thanks____ Bhogeswara Rao 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: potturi@cs.uh.edu (Rahi Prakash Potturi)
Subject: Re: glimpses into telugu classics
Summary: Srinatha's 'chaatuvulu' (Telugu)
Keywords: Telugu classics,Potana,Bhagavatam, Srinatha,'chaatuvulu'
Organization: Computer Science dept.,  Univ. of Houston (Main Campus)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:22:05 GMT


Kamalakar writes:

[stuff deleted]


<When very thirsty in the midst of a jungle, Srinatha is supposed to have
<said:

<	sirigala vaaniki chellunu tarunulu padi
<	yaaru vela Daga pendladan,
<	thiripemunakiddaraandra?  paramesa,
<	Ganga vidumu, paarvathi chaalun.

<[Saaransham:  A wealthy man can well marry 16,000 women.  But for a 
<	      beggar (like you), it does not make sense to have two
<	      wives.  So, please leave Ganga to us...parvati is enough
<	      for you!!
<]
<
<I could add more...but I will let the others add some to this treasure.
<Kamalakar Gulukota


If Pothana is a 'yogi' then Srinatha should be considered a 'bhogi'. His
many writings stand testimony to this fact. Coming to his 'chaatuvulu',
it is a great fun to read them. Let me quote one or two that I remember:
Srinatha was as much a 'bhojana priya' as a 'srungaara priya'. In the
following poem he is making fun of the food served to him. 

phulla saroja netra! ala poothana channula chedu thraavi naa
nalla davaagni mringi thinatanchu nikkedavela? thinthriNee
pallava yukthamau uduku bachhali Saakamu jonna kootitho
mellana nokka mudda digamringumu nee pasa kaana nayyedan

and about the food in 'palnaati seema', he says:

jonnakali jonna ambali
jonannamu jonna pisaru jonnale thappan
sannannamu sunna sumee
pannuga palanaati seema prajalaku nellan.

(I am sure, I will not be doing justice to the meaning and naunces in
these poems, so will not attempt to translate).

I will try to write a few others later.

Rahi Potturi
(potturi@cs.uh.edu)
From: 09143@ravel.udel.edu (Vikram Pillai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Netiquette
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:02:39 GMT
Organization: Chemical Engineering, University of Delaware
Bcc: 09143

In article <1992Apr9.170500.10158@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:

>>In article <1992Apr9.133529.20569@ncsa.uiuc.edu> vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu
>>(Vijay Rangarajan) writes about the propriety of not posting
>>personal e-mail without permission.

>I don't think that anyone is in a position to tell me or anyone else what
>is or isn't appropriate. While I extend the courtesy of keeping e-mail
>messages private to most persons it is *not* a privilege they can take
>for granted. Sorry but there it is.
>George

It is just this attitude of many (if not most) Indians that 'I'm going
to do what I want. Who cares a damn about anybody else?' that has
resulted in both the high volume and the astounding noise/signal ratio
of this newsgroup. (Mr. Chacko would be singing a whole different tune
if he had to pay for his posting privileges. But hey! as long as it's
free, he feels it is his right to abuse these privileges.) A polite
reminder of the rules of conduct on Usenet to Mr. Chacko *via EMAIL*
elicited a response of (and I quote):

> The last thing I need to hear is a lecture on what's right.

and furthermore:

> Let me also add that all future mail from you will be filtered.

Such insular behaviour should be rewarded with a place of honour in my
KILL file.

Cheers!
Vikram

"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein
e-mail: 09143@brahms.udel.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.asean