From: addey@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Adam Armstrong)
Subject: Re: worf.tamu.edu 2000 is open to non-texans?
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:57:14 GMT

In article <1h9bleINN1p7@tamsun.tamu.edu> john@stat.tamu.edu (John S. Price) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.221346.8465@news.acns.nwu.edu> japlady@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rebecca Radnor) writes:
>>
>>                                                                          
>>Help folks, worf.tamu.edu seems to be allowing external access again and
>>I've forgotton my password.  Worse yet, I tried to get lUCIFER (or in my
>>opinion the wet noodle) to dig it up, and the little bleep booted me off
>>and made it impossible for me to even try to access my character.  (same
>>name as my login)  Anyway, I'm sure some of you remember me, student's   
>>ex-wife.  In fact someone, raistlin or some such person, promised to tell 
>>me when the system was back up.  Japlady is now a locked character so I
>>can't get in.  Could someone please unlock me and remind me what my
>>password was.  I think it was derivation of my name.  Also, is the game
>>perminently up, or is it just over break?  Anyway, thanks alot.  And
>>someone please kick lucifer for me.
>
>Yes, it is true that Darker Realms is again accessible, and has been for
>a few weeks now.  However, I seriously doubt that anyone on Internet,
>save a couple of people, can even do anything about your problem, much
>less care about it.  Also, I seriously doubt that anyone but yourself
>(and this doesn't even seem to be the case) knows your password, and,
>I seriously doubt that anyone, save a couple of people, can "unlock you".
>
>Of course, you may think you're the only player on Darker Realms, and
>that the entire world runs the game for you.  But, this would obviously
>be a mistake.
>
>Also, I never promised you anything.  I don't ever recall speaking with
>you on the status of Darker Realms, much less telling you that I'd tell
>you if and when it was back up.  
>
>>Rebecca Radnor                \\ I know everything,
>
>Raistlin
>Darker Realms
>+--------------------+- But on eliminating every other reason -------------+
>| John Price         |    For our sad demise                               |
>| john@stat.tamu.edu |      They logged the only explaination left         |
>+--------------------+-------- This species has amused itself to death ----+

Welp.... I don't usually post articles in news.... but I feel like relpying
to this posting....

Flame me all you like for expressing my opinion but, I don't think your
(Raistlin) reply to Japlady was very nice.... I've heard rumours that
some people on Darker Realms are number one jerks... and your reply didn't
prove them wrong. Not a good way to get a good rep on a mud... or any mud
for that matter since LOTS of people read the news.

Yes Darker Realms has been a very popular mud, and when I heard that it is
back, I thought I'd play it some.... but now I feel a little reluctant from
reading that reply which wasn't really called for.
I don't like people saying bad things about others behind their backs, and
I should know what its like being a victim of bad gossip cos I've experienced
that sort of thing, but after much talk and lots of hurt feelings, things got
straightened out and going cool again.
But no-one was bad-naming anyone here except to say that the reply was your own
demise to show what an ass you can be to some people.

I was going to play Darker Realms cos I'd heard its fun to play on....
but I'd also heard tha some people there (mainly wizards or higher) are jerks,
and I'd never really paid much attention to them until now.
I certainly wouldn't like to be on a mud where others only came down on you
like a tonne of bricks.
What I'd like to see is someone to prove me wrong on this respect if its only
just one person who is being a jerk or has just had a bad day.
Why do I think this person is a jerk?
Well.... he could have responded in a much nicer way, but the answers he gave
were pretty silly.... I have been an admin on 2 muds and a god on another with
low profile as an admin, and I know how to help people like Japlady.
If Japlady's character has been 'locked' I would assume it got banished,
and many people know how to UNbanish a player.... just rm the .o file in
/banish (my assumption on that one so flame me if I'm wrong, no skin off my nose). Also, it is easy to fix a person's character who has forgotten his/her/its
password.... 1 of 2 that I can think of (I've done this a few times) is
where the line in the .o file has password "KJHGHvd7H" its a simply matter
of clearing all those characters to make the line like: password 0 and let
the player logon as if using the guest character where all you had to do
when asked for a password is press return.
I can see myself getting flamed for this so I'm prepared for it....
This method may seem like a form of abuse but the people who could have edit
access to the .o files would have be trusted to be at that level in the first
place... its not like you promote idiots to archwizard or higher to give him/her
that kind of access...
pretty simple answer I guess....
The other way is pretty laborious.... but still should work the same...
rm the .o file and let the player re-create the character and have someone patchthe stats back, not all that hard to do.... I made a stupid mistake of using
the wrong purge tool when deleting newbie characters... I ended up deleting 
everyone and went into the process of patching people back as they logged in.

So I don't think the reply was quite appropriate at all and someone will
have to prove to me that the people on DR are not quite like what I'm led to
think they are. Not a good way to invite players on a mud by getting nasty to
someone who simply asked for help.

Addey