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From: etxansk@garbod20.ericsson.se (Anders Skelander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Star Wars
Date: 16 Aug 92 11:44:13 GMT
Organization: Ericsson

walshm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Matt 'MTM' Walsh) writes:

>> ... [Stuff deleted about Behind Jaggi Lines/Rescue on Fractalus]
>>
>What is the Jumping Jaggie trick?

 It's probably the alien that jumps up and tries to destroy your
spacecrafts front window when you've landed and are waiting for a
lost pilot to enter your ship.

 In the version I've got it's possible to determine if it's a
pilot or an alien that's approaching your ship. The aliens
look the same but their heads are green.

 Btw, I wonder who's planet I'm rescuing pilots on. Perhaps it's
the aliens' planet? In that case, I'm the alien!

 Anders Skelander, Sweden
 
From: frankh@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Frank Hamlin)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:10:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Math Progs for the 8-bit
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit

  >In comp.sys.atari.8bit, JJMCWILL@MTUS5.CTS.MTU.EDU (Jeff McWilliams) writes:
  >
  >    I might have something here I got from GEnie, let me look it up
  >    later and get back to the net about it.  I think the most difficult
  >    part of writing something like that would be the equation evaluation
  >    part, taking a STRING and taking it apart piece by piece to try
  >    to transform it into a set of procedures the program takes to
  >    evaulate, differentiate, or integrate the original equation.
  >    Graphing, plotting, or other display of the data would be a must
  >    for such a program as well.  Anyone up to the task, I think this ranks
  >    up there along with a schematic program and a beefier 80 column
  >    word processor.
  >
  >
  >    Jeff McWilliams  EE major --> jjmcwill@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu

Or you could let BASIC do it for you, and the program becomes trivial.
About 5 years ago my son was learning to graph, so I wrote such a program
that finds mins, max, differentiates, finds mins & max of the
differential, and plots the equation.  I haven't done anything with the
Atari in over 3 years, so I do not know if I still have this.  If I find
it, I will post the program.
From: jonathan@CAD.UCLA.EDU (Jonathan Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Question -- Atari 800 lost color -- How to fix?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:13:48 GMT
Organization: U.C.L.A. Computer Aided Design Laboratory

Hi,
  I hope this isnt a common question, but, my Atari 800 recently lost the
ability to produce color (perhaps only red(?)).  This failing occurs on
both the "ch 3" and "ch 2" output as well as out of the NTSC(?) port
on the side (the 5 pin din). 

1) Is this a common problem?
2) Is there a fix that I could do?
3) If no to 2, where does one take 800's to be fixed and is it worth it
    over buying another used.

Thanks for the help,
   Jonathan

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From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Subject: Re: CGS and all that good stuff...
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-9119]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.151450.11047@news.ysu.edu> ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino) writes:
>
>The new version (CGS093.arc) has patches and docs etc. of how
>to run it on Mydos and Ataridos.

I just put in a call to CTH... the file CGS093.arc can now be found at the
Atari archive under Atari/8bit/new.

If there's any interest, I'll upload the complete list of file Tom has 
for downloading on his board.

Mike...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System 801-967-8072)
Subject: Re: Percomm/Trak drives
Organization: Nebula BBS - Salt Lake City Utah, USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:57:14 GMT

SSo if the Percomm is only capable of formatting one side of the disk
(and not do double sided), how much space can I get out of one side?
180k max or more? What setting is best to use to format a 360k slave
attached to this Percomm? 40 tracks at DD (which would equal 180k) or
what?
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Need help setting up a system
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 08:52:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

You need to have a cartridge inserted to get something other then 'memo pad'
If you can't find anyone locally, people that handle still handle Atari will
sell you REV A BASIC for about $5. If you get really desperate, I've got a
couple of REV C BASIC carts. You need to have a disk in the drive with DOS
on it to boot properly. If that isn't the problem, it could be the drives are
both set to respond as drive #1. Just check the switches in the back & make
sure they aren't in the same position(s). It doesn't matter what comes 1st
in the chain for the serial bus.
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: CGS and all that good stuff...
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 00:57:11 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino) writes:

> 
> Bill...these CGS fonts don't look good at all unless you run them
> thru the Editor program Tom Hunt wrote for sysops or call a CGS
> board with CGS running on your side....the boards I mentioned are

Yeah... what I did was look at the little demo files that came with it ;)

I wont be using CGS at ALL until there's a board using it in 415, 510, 
408 or 707 area codes! 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: UJ1G@DKAUNI2.BITNET
Subject: Re: RAMDISK.COM without RAM?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 10:00:16 GMT


Steve Lin's anwser to my question:
> Yes, it just skips right by it... Once I had a 130XE (before it got killed
> by a Lightning? surge :(  ), and I still have my trusty old 800... When you
> boot up a disk with RAMDISK.COM,it seems to ignore it, it just goes to the
> DOS menu like normal, no D8:, no nothin!

I wonder how the DOS determines that it is running on a 130XE and
not on an 800?
Does it just try to switch to the extra RAM and then poke around
to see if something changes?

Marek

uj1g@dkauni2.bitnet
From: bufort@remus.rutgers.edu (Anthony Bufort)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Memory Expansion Modules for the 800.
Date: 23 Aug 92 08:54:37 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Remember those old plug-in memory expansion
modules for the 800?  Where might I be able
to get some, preferably 16 or 32 K ones?
I want to upgrade my 800's memory to at
least that of an XL.

-Tony
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: UJ1G@DKAUNI2.BITNET
Subject: Re: secrets of $E477 (on my 130XE)
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:03:35 GMT


Michael Hill writes:

> The OS code is checking for an XL/XE machine.

For what reason?
I thought REV C of the OS has been exclusively installed on the XL/XE
machines. So why determine the type of the computer?
It wastes valuable processing time.

BTW: What does the subroutine do that is being accessed after
it comes out that the OS is actually running on a XL/XE machine?

Another question: Where is the hardware register STRIG2 (if it's the
correct name) wired to on the hardware level?

Marek

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From: etxansk@garbod20.ericsson.se (Anders Skelander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: CRASH!
Date: 16 Aug 92 12:42:49 GMT
Organization: Ericsson

moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us writes:

> 
> ... [stuff deleted]
>
> Freezing- it froze in BobTerm.  Not even [RESET] got me out
> DOSing-   I was in DDIII's Font Editor, but I left the house for a while
>           and came back.  For some reason when I hit [-] to change chars.
>           (first button I pressed when I got back) it typed it out
>           onto the screen... a few seconds later it attempted to
>           go to dos...
> more key freezes

 I had lots of problems like this one with my old 600XL which I got
for X-mas '83 (guess it makes me an 8 year veteran too). I knew
almost nothing about computers then, but a few years later I
figured out my problems were caused mainly by:

 1. The buggy BASIC revision in the computer. (What about BobTerm
and the font editor. Are they written in BASIC?)

 2. A faulty POKEY chip.

 3. A difference in the OS between the 600XLs and all the other Atari
machines I've ever seen. Synapse software's tape version of Blue Max
couldn't be loaded into a 600XL computer because of this. Possibly
caused by a modification in the OS made by the Swedish Atari agency,
but I'm not sure.

 Hope this helps,
 Anders Skelander
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: CGS and all that good stuff...
From: snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (sherry snyder)
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:59:39 CDT

Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-9119]: convex1.tcs.tulane.edu
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.151450.11047@news.ysu.edu> ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino) writes:
>
>The new version (CGS093.arc) has patches and docs etc. of how
>to run it on Mydos and Ataridos.

I just put in a call to CTH... the file CGS093.arc can now be found at the
Atari archive under Atari/8bit/new.

If there's any interest, I'll upload the complete list of file Tom has 
for downloading on his board.

Mike...

______________________________________________________________________________
  Sherry L. Snyder L.P.N.                         Mike Todd - Publications.
  Tulane Dept. of Dermatology                    Tulane Dept. of Dermatology
  snyder10@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu                dt01mws@music.tcs.tulane.edu
From: bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay Chamie1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Compuserve address
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:44:41 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:43:26 EET DST

I know I need to use a dot - that was just a typo..
What I need is the DOT address of compuserve.com .
(4 numbers seperated by dots)
For example, the numbers address of the Atari Archive is 141.211.164.8.
So, if anyone is able to look it up for those of us who have problems...
(I'm also looking for the address of kcbbs.gen.nz.)

     -Itay
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From: bruck@BRACHOT.JCT.AC.IL (Itay Chamie1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Handling stuff during disk access
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:23:18 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 0:22:08 EET DST

Aw, that's EASY!!!
All ya do is 
A) turn off disk I/O noise (poke 65 with a 0)
B) Create a VBI which will occur BEFORE the system VBI by:
   LDA #6  ; immediate mode
   LDX #hi-byte of VBI routine
   LDY #lo-byte
   JSR SETVBV ; $E45C
; rest of prog.

The VBI can scroll, do music, anything you want, and it takes no time at all
to do, since this is M/L and we're not doing any huge things AREN'T WE?? (just
don't.) And it runs while the disk is running!! haha!! 
The VBI routine has to jump to SYSVBV ($E45F) at the end, and I don't think
it needs to save everything on the stack, as the OS does it for you... not
sure though...
And the routine WILL stop on disk access if you do an LDA #7 in the init
routine (above).. That type needs to JMP to XITVBV ($E462) at it's end, and
it does NOT have to save the registers on the stack.
Those are my 2 cents!!  1..2.. ok..       -Itay
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From: potter@sunny0.dab.ge.com (Jeff Potter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: 1200XL Hack/Where to find old Atari stuff
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:25:35 GMT
Organization: General Electric SCSD, Daytona Beach FL

In article <9208111649.AA12713@nettlerash.berkeley.edu>, JJMCWILL@MTUS5.CTS.MTU.EDU (Jeff McWilliams) writes:
|> outputs at the same time.  Perhaps a letter to Bob Woolley or some
|> email to him on Compuserve will convince him to sit down and
|> modify his upgrade.  Anybody got his CI$ Address?

Bob Woolley should be at

	75126.3446@compuserve.com

...but he gets so much mail that he may take a while to answer.

On the "Where to find old Atari stuff" topic, I had mentioned that
Sears Outlets tended to carry leftover Atari equipment (notably old
XF551 disk drives and XE Game Systems).  Someone had sent me e-mail
in response to this post...please respond again as I have lost your
address.  Good news...

-- 
Jeff Potter
....potter@sunny0.dab.ge.com
....74030.2020@compuserve.com
From: cable@crs.cl.msu.edu (Dan Cable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: FTP site and SIO2PC
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:01:55 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

ar630@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin White) writes:


>I've asked this before and I will probably forget again: what is the prime
>FTP site for 8 bit stuff?

atari.archive.umich.edu
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Old Software
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:01:16 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <1992Aug12.010814.2144@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> brayl@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Rayl) writes:
>
>Kit,
>
>You state that an author or software company has to relinquish rights
>to a program before it can be considered public domain. This is not
>true.  PD simply means not for sale, not uncopyrighted/owned as you
>suggest.  PD software can be copyrighted by any author or software house.

To put it mildly, this is incorrect.

Public Domain and Copyrighted are mutually exclusive; a piece of
software cannot be both at the same time. When I, as an author, create a
piece of software, I alutmatically have a copyright on my work. I can
choose to relinquish that copyright and release my work into the public
domain, at which point I no longer have the copyright. In fact, no one
does; that's what public domain MEANS.

I've noticed a misuse of the term in a lot of shareware/freeware type
releases. The author will place a copyright statement in the
documentation, and then in the next sentence say "this program is public
domain." What he REALLY means is that the software is FREELY AVAILABLE;
no price can be charged for the software, but the author still retains
the copyright. This is done primarily to prevent other people from
selling the software and earning profits from the author's work. You
see, if a work is public domain, I can do ANYTHING I WANT with it. I can
sell it, modify it, use it as the basis for another program, whatever.
If the original author holds the copyright, even if he doesn't cahrge me
any money to use his program, I am prevented from selling it, modifying
it, or producing a derivative work from it WITHOUT THE AUTHOR'S EXPLICIT
PERMISSION.

Do you see the difference?
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: CGS and all that good stuff...
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:09:27 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <1992Aug17.224600.12237@news.ysu.edu> ab588@yfn.ysu.edu (joseph sabatino) writes:
>
>Nither I nor CTH bbs can upload to the umich.archive.  If someone 
>could tell me a way I would upload it yaue.com'd here but the 
>Bobterm buffer has a glitch it in were it looses characters between
>the buffer refills....or maybe I'm doing something wrong with this
>here think
>er...thing...I dunno.
I don't see how Bobterm could lose characters on an Ascii upload.  Check the
help files on your host system; also you might want to experiment with the
delay rate.  According to my notes, you can upload files to the archive by
mailing them to jrd@stony-brook.scrc.symbolics.com .  Be sure to include a
description of the file.

Bill Marcum
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: 1200 XL hack
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:27:36 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow) writes:

Well sure your 800xl will look better than your 800!, it's just (from 
what I've HEARD) the >1200<xl looks pretty bad.  I suppose the folks 
who've mentioned it are right, but I've never really compared it to the 
other system's I've seen (/touched! - a 400 and a 65xe.. both VERY long 
ago... :-(  ).

Btw: notice the "reply to"ing at the top!       <snicker>

"Be seeing you!"
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__________________________________
                   August 13, 1992
From: phbill@cyberden.uucp (Bill Kendrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: CGS and all that good stuff...
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:02:05 GMT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

How many people use the <C>olor <G>raphics <S>ystem upgrade for BobTerm?  
To ME it felt like quite a bit of work setting the thing up, especially 
since I no longer use Atari DOS 2.5, which is to my knowlege, about the 
only version of DOS on the Atari (other than perhaps its "compatible" 
DOSes, like SuperDOS) that allows numbers to be the first character of a 
file name.  The instructions explained how to go about fixing MyDOS to 
use numbers in filenames (all the fonts it uses are numbered from "0.0" 
to "9.9".)  >I< say why not just rename them to "F0.0" through "F9.9"?!  
Rather than going through all the hassle of patching the DOS for this one 
specific program.  I'm not sure the fix was even 100% compatible with my 
version of MyDOS (the 4-digit sector count one).  
Another big let down was the need to install a RAMDisk (which I NEVER foo 
with any more because I STILL only have 48k!!).  Why not just have a file 
called "FONTS.DAT" and have it load up and then the program can just 
point around in it, rather than going through the trouble of setting up a 
RAMDisk.
And FINALLY, yet ANOTHER let down is the fonts.  Call me one using a 
1200xl (which supposedly has bad video output) on a 13" SONY TV (which I 
suppose in comparison to a good ol' monitor REALLY sucks), but to me 
those fonts weren't anything special.  >I< think the entire program 
should be graphics screen oriented (MAYbe a little text window or 
something) so all the fonts can be mixed, rather than when a new font is 
selected, the entire screen changes.  If a routine much like "TEXT" in 
TurboBASIC XL, or even just a byte copier (which means you can only place 
the characters in 40 positions across the screen, rather than 320 like 
with "TEXT") was added, you'd barely even have a need for the text 
window!

Anyways...these are just my ideas.  I don't even know of a CGS supporting 
BBS to call ANYWHERE. (Well, sure I have a few numbers in the manual, but 
I have NO idea where they are.  Either that, or they're on the Eastern 
half of the country...)  Are there any CGS boards in any of these area 
codes:?


415
510
707
408

???
If so, PLEASE give me the number so I can try this out and give it a 
second chance.  For now I just live with ASCII and the occasional b/w 
ANSI.

Thanx.          (To tell you the truth, now that I've got Quick (IF I can
                 get it to WORK!!), I might just try making my OWN 
                 version of CGS..  Who knows!?   Oh, BTW: BobTerm was 
                 written in Action!, wasn't it???)

                                                                Bill

"Be seeing you!"
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__________________________________
                   August 14, 1992
From: UJ1G@DKAUNI2.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Star Wars
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:00:49 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany


Bill Kendrick writes:
> {..}                                 How is this handled!?  How much disk
> i/o speed is lost when this stuff is done???
> (cant wait to try something like this myself! ;) )

The principle of playing music during disk i/o isn't very tricky.
The sound is produced during the immediate VBI .
There are two kinds of VBIs. One part is always executing every
1/60th of a second on NTSC computers. The other part, the deferred
VBI, is only executing when there's enough time for it.
During disk i/o only the first part of the VBI is executed, since
there's no spare time left.

The only problem in programming a sound routine for the immediate
VBI is TIME. Your routine can't be too long or it will
screw up the whole system. This is epecially true with NTSC, leaving
more time on PAL systems.

To set up this VBI as usual jump through the SETVBV routine after
storing the address of your routine in the appropriate registers and
the code for the immediate VBI in the accumulator.
The code could be $7 or $6, here I need help from someone who has either
a better memory or has his hardware manual handy.

Just try it out. I'm sure you'll find it out somehow.

Marek
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From: rkim@CALSTATELA.EDU ("Richard H.S. Kim")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Teknika monitor questions...
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:48:10 GMT

I used to own a Teknika monitor with my 800XL.  Overall, it was very
good, with both regular composite and separate video plugs.  Colors
were very brite (maybe too brite!).  Problems were the speaker (too weak)
and the power switch (stopped working, got stuck).

My question is does anyone still sell those monitors, and is Teknika still
around?  I'd like to get schematics for it, just for the heck of it.
It looked like a TV with some modified circuitry...  Nonetheless, the colors
and picture quality beats outs most of the other consumer sets that I've
seen.

Thanks,
Rich K.

email> rkim@opus.calstatela.edu
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