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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:52:31 PST
From:         "(David Alix)" <9531ALIX@UCSBUXA.BITNET>
Subject:      official interbit gateways?
Comments: To: nodmgt-l@uga.bitnet

I posted this question a month or so ago, but didn't get a response.
Anyone have an answer?


 >I'm a little confused over the requirements for INTERBIT gateways outlined
 >in the GATEWAY.STANDARD file.  I'm not sure what constitutes an INTERBIT
 >gateway.  I had assumed that any site passing traffic between
 >Internet and Bitnet was an INTERBIT gateway, but some documentation
 >I got from BITNIC implies otherwise.
 >
 >Would a system acting as a gateway between a University's
 >Internet domain and Bitnet be an INTERBIT gateway, and responsible
 >for the new requirements?  Or are only those sites that serve the
 >wider Internet domains like EDU and GOV covered by these requirements,
 >and local gateways be considered part of the "other gateways", for
 >whom these are strong suggestions?
 >
 >Thanks for your time.
 >
 >
David Alix
Computer Center, Univ. of Calif., Santa Barbara
Postmaster, ucsbuxa
9531alix@ucsbuxa.bitnet
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From: CSYSMAS@UCLAMVS.BITNET (Michael Stein)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Subject: Re: A new NEWTAGS DESCRIPT
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:13:00 GMT
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>       a new version of the "Nodes File format and contents" document
> has been stored into NETSERV.

Anywhere else?  I know I'm not authorized to use NETSERV.
From: TKENNETT@BENTLEY.BITNET
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Subject: What happened to interactive rmovals?
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:16:00 GMT
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Hello world,

        I am curious as to when/why my local listserv is refusing to accept
an interactive submission to remove a user's ID from lists?
ie. $send listserv@buacca for username * '(netwode'

I have used this in the past and now am getting a response to submit the
request through the JOB command.  The message also indicates that when
removing 500+ users to use the JOB command.

Thank you for your patience :-)
Have a great weekend all!

Ted Kennette
tkennett@bentley.bitnet
Systems Manager
Bentley College
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 11:02:45 EST
From: Peter M. Weiss <PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Subject: Re: What happened to interactive rmovals?

In article <01GQUA0EQU0W00119D@BENTLEY.BITNET>, TKENNETT@BENTLEY.BITNET says:

>Hello world,

>        I am curious as to when/why my local listserv is refusing to accept
>an interactive submission to remove a user's ID from lists?
>ie. $send listserv@buacca for username * '(netwode'
(...)

Send the following JOB to your closest listserv:

//DEL      JOB   ECHO=NO
QUIET DELETE * DD=NAMES PW=xxxxx (NETWIDE
//NAMES DD *
userid
/*

Note for some lists controlled by-owner, you'll need to have a password
for your userid on their node in order for you to unsub your customer's
userid.

/Pete (pmw1@psuvm.psu.edu)
--
Peter M. Weiss                     | not affiliated with psuvm.psu.edu|psuvm
31 Shields Bldg -- Penn State Univ.| "Connectivity is more than a Connection"
University Park, PA USA 16802-1202 | E. Michael Staman, _The Circuit_, Apr 92
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X-Delivery-Notice:  SMTP MAIL FROM does not correspond to sender.
X-VMS-To: IN%"NODMGT-L@BITNIC"
X-VMS-Cc: AE
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:09:20 -0400
From:         Aidan Evans <AE@AC.DAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: GRIBM Messages

  On 12 Nov 1992 18:24:17 +0000 (N) Peter.Sylvester@INRIA.FR wrote:

>I do not know what happens to all these OUTONLY servers that try and send
>messages to a VM mailer that checks for trusted mailers.

  I think I know what happens: the mail is rejected.  At least, I've had
messages rejected "Validity check failed." recently from BUACCA (Mailer R2.08
PTF009) and USOUTHAL (Mailer R2.07).

>> >Multiple mailer definitions for
>> > DALAC    NETNORTH NJE      CA        2024
>> >MAILER@DALAC ignored.

Aidan Evans (AE@AC.Dal.CA or AE@DALAC), Computer Facilities & Operations,
University Computing & Information Services, Dalhousie University, Halifax,
N.S., Canada
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:29:00 EST
From:         Mark_Strawcutter <MJSTRAW@IUP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES
              files

>People should check there finger checks before slinging mud.  TSCVM is running
>VERS9212 of the tables, and, according to Bitearn Nodes, is Trenton State
>College in New Jersey, not Tulane.  Before today, I think they were running
>9210.

Their RSCS routing tables have been kept reasonably current.  Their MAILER
and LISTSERV configurations are quite another story.

----------
Mark J Strawcutter                           BitNet:    MJSTRAW@IUP
Director, Systems and Communications         DNS (mx):  mjstraw@grove.iup.edu
Indiana University of Pennsylvania           Voice:     (412) 357-4000
Indiana, PA   15705                          "you can't nail jello to a tree"
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:00:08 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES
              files
              10 Nov 1992 18:32:04 CST from Node Management <NODMGT-L@UGA>

On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:32:04 CST "Juan M. Courcoul"
<COURCOUL@VMTECQRO.QRO.ITESM.MX> said:

>On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:47:04 GMT (Richard Alan Schafer) said:
>>|>  TSCVM    VERS8904
>>
>>If I hadn't tried in vain many times to deal with problems caused by this
>>incredibly out of date site, I'd have trouble believing this.  This site
>>is almost 4 *YEARS* obsolete!  And unless your luck is better than mine,
>>you'll never get any response whatsoever to a complaint to their postmaster
>>or anyone else at the site.
>
>Those of us who use or manage a Relay server will point out that Tulane,
>aka TCSVM, turned into a digital black hole when a personnel readjustment
>caused John Voight, aka IFixVM, to seek greener pastures elsewhere.
>
>I'd even venture to say that, were BITNIC to silently drop TCSVM from the
>tables one day, they wouldn't even notice.... ;)

I know it's confusing, but this was TSCVM not TCSVM :-)

  Eric
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:13:38 CST
From:         Barry Finkel <B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV>
Subject:      NJE Traffic from non-BITNET Nodes
Comments: To: Node Mgmt LISTSERV <NODMGT-L@UGA.BITNET>,
              Peter Un <PKUN@GALLUA.BITNET>,
              "Bill Verity (814) 863-0422" <WHV@PSUVM.BITNET>,
              Chris Thomas <CSYSCST@UCLAMVS.BITNET>,
              Kenneth Josenhans <POSTTECH@MSU.BITNET>

During October we logged at ANLOS NJE traffic from the following NJE nodes
that are not defined to BITNET.  JES3 will not automatically forward these
files; they are put in operator hold.  Our JES3 console operators release
these files once a day during the evening shift.  Thus mail from these
nodes is delayed at ANLOS.  These nodes should be defined to BITNET to avoid
delays.  There is one node that I have been unable to identify; can anyone
help?  Thanks.
     GALLUA1   (connected to GALLUA)
     NSCL01
     PSUECLX   (part of PSUECL cluster)
     UCLAC1    (part of UCLACH cluster)
     UCLAC2    (part of UCLACH cluster)
     VIXEN     (part of MSUNSCL cluster)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Barry S. Finkel
Computing and Telecommunications Division
Argonne National Laboratory               BITNET:   B19141@ANLVM
9700 South Cass Avenue                    Internet: B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV
Building 221, Room B223                   Phone:    (708) 252-7277
Argonne, IL   60439-4844                  Facsimile:(708) 252-5983
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:43:17 EST
From:         "Duane D. Weaver" <WEAVER@OHSTVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A new NEWTAGS DESCRIPT

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:13:00 PST Michael Stein said:
>>       a new version of the "Nodes File format and contents" document
>> has been stored into NETSERV.
>
>Anywhere else?  I know I'm not authorized to use NETSERV.
The techrep for UCLAMVS can authorize you by defining a password
for you with your nearest NETSERV.

The current entry forUCLAMVS in BITEARN NODES is Chris Thomas.
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:15:40 MET
From:         Silvia Gruben <GRUBEN@DEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: RFC1362

On Thu, 5 Nov 92 11:38:51 CST Brent Stilley said:
>
>Can someone tell me how to get a copy of a (very new) RFC?  I'm interested
>in RFC1362, regarding the NetWare IPX transport protocols.
>
>Brent Stilley,  Oklahoma State University, 113 Math Sciences, Stillwater, 74078

LISTSERV at DEARN (and I think, other LISTSERVs too!) has a RFC FILELIST.
You can get the RFC  with the 'GET RFC1362 TXT' command from LISTSERV.

Regards,
  Silvia Gruben

------------------------------------------------------------------------
 _____
/     \    Silvia Gruben               email: GRUBEN@DEARN      or
| GMD |    Rathausallee 10                    Silvia.Gruben@gmd.de
\_____/    W-5205 Sankt Augustin
           Germany                     phone: +49 2241 14-3207
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Organization: EARN Office, Paris - +33.1.69.82.39.73
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:08:31 NFT
From:         Nadine Grange <GRANGE@FRORS12.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES
              files

On Mon, 9 Nov 92 12:38:03 +0100 Eric Thomas said:
>
>The following 28 servers (10%) use an outdated BITEARN NODES file:

....

The postmasters of the servers located on EARN sites have been contacted, but
apparently with no effect.

>The following servers have been unreachable for more than 7 days:
>
> BRUFMS     FRECP12    SAKSU00    VMNMDSC
             ^^^^^^^
             The postmaster's address in the peers file is no longer valid
             and the node administrator doesn't answer. May be he has decided
             to stop this service?

Regards,

               /Nadine
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Organization: Oklahoma State University
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:38:51 CST
From:         Brent Stilley <UCCXBRS@OSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RFC1362
Comments: To: ibmtcp-l@pucc.BITNET, lstsrv-l@uga.BITNET, nodmgt-l@uga.BITNET

Can someone tell me how to get a copy of a (very new) RFC?  I'm interested
in RFC1362, regarding the NetWare IPX transport protocols.

Brent Stilley,  Oklahoma State University, 113 Math Sciences, Stillwater, 74078
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:38:09 MET
From:         Ulrich Giese <U001213@HNYKUN11.URC.KUN.NL>
Subject:      Re: A new NEWTAGS DESCRIPT

On Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:13:00 PST Michael Stein said:
>
>>       a new version of the "Nodes File format and contents" document
>> has been stored into NETSERV.
>
>Anywhere else?  I know I'm not authorized to use NETSERV.

why are you not authorized ? the GET authorization is ALL, so you are
able to pick these files.
-ulrich-
From: OPRNAD@SAUPM00.BITNET (Iyad A.M. Al-Bukhari)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Subject: Re: Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES
              files
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:15:02 GMT
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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X-Acknowledge-To: <OPRNAD@SAUPM00.BITNET>

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:38:03 +0100 Eric Thomas said:
>The following 28 servers (10%) use an outdated BITEARN NODES file:
>
> BRUFPB   VERS9208
>  .
>  .
> YSUB     VERS9210 (backbone server)
>
>The following servers have been unreachable for more than 7 days:
>
> BRUFMS     FRECP12    SAKSU00    VMNMDSC
                        ^^^^^^^
Eric, I have sent to you a personal mail to temporarily suspend sending
to SAKSU00 ListServ (but seems you did not read it). They still have
problems with their Mailer System. However, I repeat my request.
Thanx in advance for your cooperation.......

+---------------------------------------+------------------------------+
|Best Regards of                        | E-Mail: OPRNAD@SAUPM00.BITNET|
|Node Administrator of GulfNet at KFUPM |         OPRIAB@SAUPM00.BITNET|
|P.O.Box 773 Dhahran 31261              | Tel.# : (966-3) 860-3917 Off.|
|K.F.U.P.M. , Saudi Arabia              |         (966-3) 860-8828 Res.|
+---------------------------------------+------------------------------+
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:07:00 EST
From:         Mark_Strawcutter <MJSTRAW@IUP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: official interbit gateways?

>I'm a little confused over the requirements for INTERBIT gateways outlined
>in the GATEWAY.STANDARD file.  I'm not sure what constitutes an INTERBIT
>gateway.  I had assumed that any site passing traffic between
>Internet and Bitnet was an INTERBIT gateway, but some documentation
>I got from BITNIC implies otherwise.

An INTERBIT gateway is any machine that intercepts NJE traffic for node
INTERBIT.  Those are the only systems to which the requirements apply.
They are offering a service to all BITNET members.  Private gateways
serve a limited clientele and are strongly encouraged to follow the same
rules.

>
>Would a system acting as a gateway between a University's
>Internet domain and Bitnet be an INTERBIT gateway, and responsible
>for the new requirements?

no

>                           Or are only those sites that serve the
>wider Internet domains like EDU and GOV covered by these requirements,
>and local gateways be considered part of the "other gateways", for
>whom these are strong suggestions?

The scope of domains served doesn't matter.  If you don't suck up traffic
for node INTERBIT, only the "strong suggestions" apply.

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Mark J Strawcutter                           BitNet:    MJSTRAW@IUP
Director, Systems and Communications         DNS (mx):  mjstraw@grove.iup.edu
Indiana University of Pennsylvania           Voice:     (412) 357-4000
Indiana, PA   15705                          "you can't nail jello to a tree"
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:14:33 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      VMNMDSC/HSETC
Comments: cc: JBC@BITNIC.BITNET

For  several months  now  I  have been  complaining  that the  registered
contacts for  node VMNMDSC have an  address on a node,  HSETC, which does
not exist. Every month I was told this would be fixed the next month.

This  month a  ':newnode.VMNMIMC'  was added  to this  entry,  and a  new
VMNMIMC node  was defined. It looks  like the machine is  going to change
its node name. The  new node comes with a set  of contacts with addresses
at... you  guessed it,  HSETC. I  suppose that, too,  will be  fixed next
month.

  Eric
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:19:18 EST
From:         "Steven P. Roder" <TKSSTEVE@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES
              files
              10 Nov 1992 18:32:04 CST from <COURCOUL@VMTECQRO.QRO.ITESM.MX>

On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:32:04 CST Juan M. Courcoul said:
>On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:47:04 GMT (Richard Alan Schafer) said:
>>|>  TSCVM    VERS8904
>>If I hadn't tried in vain many times to deal with problems caused by this
>>incredibly out of date site, I'd have trouble believing this.  This site
>>is almost 4 *YEARS* obsolete!  And unless your luck is better than mine,
>>you'll never get any response whatsoever to a complaint to their postmaster
>>or anyone else at the site.
>
>Those of us who use or manage a Relay server will point out that Tulane,
>aka TCSVM, turned into a digital black hole when a personnel readjustment
>caused John Voight, aka IFixVM, to seek greener pastures elsewhere.
>
>I'd even venture to say that, were BITNIC to silently drop TCSVM from the
>tables one day, they wouldn't even notice.... ;)
>
>JMC

People should check there finger checks before slinging mud.  TSCVM is running
VERS9212 of the tables, and, according to Bitearn Nodes, is Trenton State
College in New Jersey, not Tulane.  Before today, I think they were running
9210.

TCSVM is Tulane University, and also is running VERS9212.  Perhaps they
just installed the new tables because of this duscussion.


Steve Roder
(tkssteve@ubvm.bitnet | tkssteve@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu | (716)645-3564
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
From: schafer@is.rice.edu (Richard Alan Schafer)
Subject: Re:      Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES files
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:47:04 GMT

In article <NODMGT-L%92110906382921@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>,         Eric Thomas
<ERIC@SEARN.BITNET> writes:
|> The following 28 servers (10%) use an outdated BITEARN NODES file:
|> 
 ... numerous mildly out of date servers omitted

|>  TSCVM    VERS8904

If I hadn't tried in vain many times to deal with problems caused by this
incredibly out of date site, I'd have trouble believing this.  This site
is almost 4 *YEARS* obsolete!  And unless your luck is better than mine,
you'll never get any response whatsoever to a complaint to their postmaster
or anyone else at the site.


-- 
Richard
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:39:51 MET
From:         Ulrich Giese <U001213@HNYKUN11.URC.KUN.NL>
Subject:      Re: GRIBM Messages
              11 Nov 92 10:24:28 CST from <B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV>

thanks barry. i'm not running GRIBM for generating XMAILER NAMES but
MAKEINFO instead.
i will have a look into the problem and let you know.
-ulrich-
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:21:44 CST
From:         Barry Finkel <B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV>
Subject:      Unconnected EARN Nodes & :netsoft Tag

>>    France C  FRCDF51   FR     NJE             9204   was connected, new path
>>    CITILill  FRCITL81  FR     ?               9211   was connected, new path
>Both on the Internet. The NJE addresses are converted to SMTP addresses in a
>central location.
I would like to see a meaningful :netsoft tag in the database for these
types of nodes.  A tag listing ":netsoft.NJE" does not give any useful
information.  Having ":netsoft.TCP/IP", while it does not give the exact
software being used, does give more useful information.

Note that this does not apply only to EARN; there are about 23 CAREN
nodes (JPNxxxxx) that have ":netsoft.NJE" in the database.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Barry S. Finkel
Computing and Telecommunications Division
Argonne National Laboratory               BITNET:   B19141@ANLVM
9700 South Cass Avenue                    Internet: B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV
Building 221, Room B223                   Phone:    (708) 252-7277
Argonne, IL   60439-4844                  Facsimile:(708) 252-5983
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:24:28 CST
From:         Barry Finkel <B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV>
Subject:      GRIBM Messages

When I ran GRIBM for 9212, I got the following messages.  I have been
ignoring them.  Should I worry?

GR starting, version 91-11-19, date=92-11-06, time=08:56:26

   (c) GMD Bonn 1989, 1990; EARN association 1990, 1991
   Author Peter Sylvester

GR directive: XMAILER           DDNAME=XMAILER
GR directive: GETNODES
Multiple mailer definitions for
 DALAC    NETNORTH NJE      CA        2024
MAILER@DALAC ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 DMRHRZ11 EARN     * type * DE         602
SMTP@DMRHRZ11 ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 PHOENIX  BITNET   NJE      US        1429
SYSTEMX@PHOENIX ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 PUCC     BITNET   NJE      US          73
VMMAILB@PUCC ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 PUCC     BITNET   NJE      US          73
VMMAILT@PUCC ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 UBVM     BITNET   NJE      US        1295
MAILER_L@UBVM ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 UBVMS    BITNET   NJE      US        1526
SMTPUSER@UBVMS ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 UBVMSB   BITNET   NJE      US        1401
SMTPUSER@UBVMS ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 UBVMSC   BITNET   NJE      US        1534
SMTPUSER@UBVMS ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 UBVMSD   BITNET   NJE      US        1074
SMTPUSER@UBVMS ignored.
Multiple mailer definitions for
 WEIZMANN EARN     * type * IL         194
VMSMTP@WEIZMANN ignored.
GR directive: GENROUTE ANLOS    DDNAME=ANLOS
GR directive: GENROUTE ANLVM    DDNAME=ANLVM
GR directive: GENROUTE ANLVMV1  DDNAME=ANLVMV1
GR successful.
GR done.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Barry S. Finkel
Computing and Telecommunications Division
Argonne National Laboratory               BITNET:   B19141@ANLVM
9700 South Cass Avenue                    Internet: B19141@ANLVM.CTD.ANL.GOV
Building 221, Room B223                   Phone:    (708) 252-7277
Argonne, IL   60439-4844                  Facsimile:(708) 252-5983
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:56:38 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Monthly list of LISTSERV sites with outdated BITEARN NODES
              files
              12 Nov 1992 15:53:58 SAT from Node Management <NODMGT-L@UGA>

On Thu, 12 Nov 1992  15:53:58 SAT "Iyad A.M. Al-Bukhari" <OPRNAD@SAUPM00>
said:

>Eric, I have sent to you  a personal mail to temporarily suspend sending
>to SAKSU00  ListServ (but seems  you did not  read it). They  still have
>problems with their  Mailer System. However, I repeat  my request. Thanx
>in advance for your cooperation.......

I am sorry but I have better things to do than make special changes to my
monitor so  that it stops showing  SAKSU00 as an unreachable  server even
though it is  indeed unreachable. Especially as, in  my experience, doing
this sort of  things increases the time  it takes for the  problems to be
fixed :-)

  Eric
From: PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu (Peter M. Weiss)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.nodmgt-l
Subject: Re: A new NEWTAGS DESCRIPT
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:07:42 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <NODMGT-L%92110615431414@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>, Michael Stein
<CSYSMAS@UCLAMVS.BITNET> says:

>The last time I tried it (may years ago), I wasn't authorized.
>Since that wasn't the first time I hadn't won a NETSERV battle
>I've a policy that I don't fight with it anymore...

>So, is this wonderful document available elsewhere?

Apparently so: it was recently stored on listserv@bitnic (@bitnic.educom.edu)
in the netinfo filelist.

/Pete
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