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From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Advise needed
Keywords: advise,men,how to find
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:28:26 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan23.045728.24877@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
>In article <77318@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan23.005359.18767@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
>>>In article <77256@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>>>>dan@BofA.com (Dan Brockman) attempts to suck up to:
>>>>
>>>>>Tina-- you are all right --
>>>>
>>>>You know, it doesn't bother me that Dan (*another* Dan) tries to suck up to
>>>>what appears to be a nubile female.  What *does* bother me is that he's so
>>>>damned *blatant* about it...  Why be so obvious, and thereby reveal how
>>>>desperate you are?
>>>
>>>Well, maybe he's more comfortable with his desperation than you are with
>>>yours.  Come to terms with it Ed, and then you can be proudly desperate.
>>
>>The only flaw in your argument is that I'm *not* desperate.
>
>Sounds like you're in denial.  Free yourself Ed, embrace your desperation.

Naaaah...not me!  Why should I be desperate?  I have more than enough friends,
both of the male and female persuasion, and even though I'm not currently
sleeping with anyone but myself, three cats and a rabbit, I have enough self-
respect to not be *quite* so obvious if I *did* find someone I wanted to sleep
with.  Besides, I am quite happy *not* sleeping with anyone else at this point -
it makes life *much* less complicated.

It would be patently idiotic of me to make the effort of going out and finding 
someone to sleep with, knowing that I will be moving back to the Bay Area in a
few weeks.  Unless, of course, you consider a relationship to be one-sided,
and your sexual needs are all that counts - then, I suppose, you could go out
and find some woman that would be willing to 'fuck' you.

No, thanks.  Not for me, sorry.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: Sexual Arousal
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:57:13 GMT

In article 7900@presto.ig.com, arb@presto.ig.com (Dan Arbios) writes:
>
>Hello all you mutha's, 
>
>I read this group in hope's that people would leave their personals,
>and talk about places to meet for fun and frolic....am I wrong?

You're totally correct.

>I'm into bondage, motor oil, and anal plugs....

I have some SAE 80W-90 gear oil in the garage I'd like to get rid of.

---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn)
Subject: Re: Singles Expo in Palo Alto on 01/23
Organization: Konnem, Churn, Reap & Chortle, Investment Counselors for the '90s
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:31:41 GMT

Just takin' a little tea break, and was in a slightly more serious mood...

In article <1993Jan24.213716.12708@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>In article <C1DJ2L.MMq@amd.com> jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn) writes:
>>
[Marvin's lack of follow-through] 
>>then you *need* to be there.  Else, why form "Mingles" in the first place?
>
>Cuz he thought it would be a great way to meet groovy chicks?

Well, yeah, and that's the wierd part of this.  It is a bit surprising to
discover a person who can demonstrate enough self-confidence and capability 
to actually go out and -form-a-company- for the purpose of "meetin' the babes"
but who then proceeds to *publically* pass-up an opportunity to exploit that tool.

It begins to seem a little schizoid...  maybe not, maybe its a tax dodge.  
--
J. M. Wincn                           jmw@angelo.amd.com (408) YUP-BEER 
I discriminate.               Standard DISCLAIMER available on request. 
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB)
Subject: Re: Tina Martin: You are my hero!!!
Summary: work on it, you may get there, someday.
Keywords: the next-to last word of the text body is _not_ a typo
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:46:54 GMT

In article <1jmilqINNjv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cd975@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel K. Holmes) writes:
>
[poor cutdowns and useless flames omitted]

That's funny, danny-boy {gratuitous diminutive} I suppose I *could* take issue
with silly details like your concept of a "perspective mate" { i.e. what?
3D's not _good_enough_ for you? } or other stuff that's not even slightly
germane to my comment.  I *could* point out that _no_one_ in the
"no-life Ba.singles community" that appears to share your viewpoint,
has bothered to speak up for you.  I could point out that, though you
may be local, you _do_ "post from Cleveland".  I *could* list
the people with whom I've recently discussed your postings, in person
and by email, and mentioned as "Many of us"   I *could* assume some
silly persona in parody of some television program that I would expect
the net to understand, pandering to the twelve-year-old mentality television
assume and inspires.  I *could* mention that, while well aware of freenet,
I utilize many services from Netcom that make it well worth the cost.
I could mention that I drive highway 84 fairly often, and have a good
idea where llnl.gov is located.

I *could* even point out that my keyboard is _gray_, which you would,
of course, have no way of knowing.

But all I should really need to do is note that you have so eloquently
demonstrated all the characteristics _you_ claim are evidence of someone who is
>>>      pulled
>>>into the clutches and forced to live a life of poor cutdowns and useless 
>>>flames to make themselves THINK they have a life.


Instead of all that, I think for just a minute, I'll come
_all_the_way_down_ to your level, just for the fun of it,
you vainglorious coprocephalic onal orifice.


	Bob
--
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: Thanks for the boink, Bob!
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:32:20 GMT

In article 26031@netcom.com, obrien@netcom.com (No parking EXCEPT FOR BOB) writes:
>eager@eagercon.com writes:
>>whedon@netcom.com (Bill Whedon) writes:
>>>
>>>Oh, yes, does anyone know where a *real* wursthaus can be found in the
>>>BA?  The sole disappointment of the evening for me was going to a place
>>>called a "Hofbrau" and not being able to locate a proper bratwurst, or a
>[further disappointments omitted]
>>
>>There are a several Wursthaueser that I know of:
>>	Teske's Germania Haus on First St. in San Jose
>>	Hochburg von Germania on Second St. in San Jose
>>	Ditmer's Wursthaus on San Antonio Rd. in Palo Alto
>>	Continental Deli on College in Palo Alto
>>	Zum Goldenen Adler on Abel(?) in Milpitas 
>>
>>A Bratwurst, BBQ and Beer Boink in Gilroy would be a great idea.
>
>
>Yes, indeed, Mike, it certainly would!  So, when are you going to
>start organizing it?  You can count on me being there.

D'ya think Bill would mind if I told everybody in the world/net to stop 
over at his house in Gilroy on some Saturday with Brats, BBQ, & Beer?  

BTW, back in Madison, Wis., I was told that you had to boil the brats
in beer for an hour before you grill them, or it just wasn't done right.

---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141
From: cd975@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel K. Holmes)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Isn't Danny cute... (was Re: Danny tries to be sneaky (was Re: )
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:18:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd975@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel K. Holmes)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, desiree@netcom.com (dmc) says:

>
>In his recent article, Danny "I've learned to plagiarise" Holmes sez:

Here we see the testicle-filled, I mean testosterone-filled-desiree trying
to pawn off the watchfull eye of the with-life community by trying to stear
the attention to a copied idea.

>
>[100+ line article deleted...]
>
>	Uh, Danny -- your Mayberry stuff was much more fun.  At least
>it was original and had some small shred of ability to conceive...

At his point, the TFD is trying to get Jim and I to leave this style and
return to a past style that has long been gone. We also notice that a
slight frustration in the no-life member. This may be due to our not
acknowledging her as a true member of society....but then again, what
with-lifer would. 
>
>	This recycled bit has been done.  Try again.  This time without
>hitting alt.flame for snippets.  

We also see a desparate attempt at trying to get the WL community to leave 
by playing this string off as recycled. But as long as our public continues
to keep our ratings up by supportive e-mail, Jim and I will continue our
documentary on the No-Life community.

Till next time,
Merlin Parkin

Our next segment will be covering the no-life females who feel that they 
must be the masculine types in the no-life relationship.
-- 
Daniel K. Holmes            | "You can still smell the roses when you're
cd975@cleveland.freenet.edu | running with them in your hand. Memories are
Holmes@vaxt.llnl.gov        | the true measure of life. Make all you can."
                            | --Garth Brooks
Newsgroups: ba.singles,alt.peeves
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Bob's Boink and TigerTeams
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 04:22:10 GMT

bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
] In article <1993Jan20.031200.18439@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
] >
] >ps: Next time Bob I want to see some Decent Security
] >Precautions in Place to Protect the INNOCENTS who
] >come to you Gatherings!!!!!
] 
] We tried, but youmanaged to slip through our defenses.


Why didn't anyone TELL me we were the Tiger Team!!!!

Clearly BOB you have to work on your communication
and management skills if you want to get anywhere
in life.

ciao
drieux



-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: 

sometimes, a thing will happen after another thing, 
and they may not be connected..... 
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: desiree@netcom.com (dmc)
Subject: Re: Marginal People (was  Re: Circle Jerks (was Re: Oxymorons, )
Summary: The world is turning on
Organization: Tiger Balm Analgesic
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:58:03 GMT


Tim Wood belatedly responds to an old article of mine with:

>I said:
>>	True, you can infer anything you want if you really wanna get
>>down to it.  But whether or not it's accurate is another matter
>>entirely.  But, please, continue to infer, assume and draw conclusions...

>Part of communicating effectively is to anticipate what your reader/listener
>might infer from what you say. 

	Duoy.

> You don't want them to make inaccurate inferences. 

	No, *you* may not want them to make inaccurate inferences into
personality or what-have-you.  Other's don't care about that.  

> The reader's reaction is, believe it or don't, partly the
>writer's responsibility.

	Double-duoy with a half-twist.  

>>	Point of pride to whom?  Are you placing your standards upon
>>others in all things?

>I don't consider the inclination in a person to make repeated hostile posts 
>a point of pride.  

	Okay, so you are placing your standards upon others.  That's
fine -- if that's what you wish to do.  But don't expect me to adopt
those standards or morals.  I don't expect you to adopt mine or agree
with them, in the least.  Remember Tim, what is perceived as hostility
by one is viewed as something entirely different by another -- it all
boils down to -who is reading- ...  

>>...[ If I ]
>>meet someone who posted lots of stuff I didn't like, it will at best
>>be harder/take longer for me to be that person's friend.
>>	Steerrrrrrike One!  Try again...
>>	Try to get the point this time...

>If you'd be so kind as to make it.  My point stands that what people
>write in this forum affects my opinion of them.

	The point was there -- more than a couple others' got it.  
Anywhoooo -- you can stand on your point until your blue in the face.
My point still remains that you are free to certainly form an opinion
based upon what a person writes here -- but you will more than likely
be wrong, because this medium only allows a spattering of a personality
to show through and some of us manipulate the net with what we wish to
show or not to show.  You are most certainly free to infer whatever you
want from that -- some of us don't give a flying fig.

>What do they pay on Studs & Love Connection? ;)

	Ten bucks on Studs and a dream date with a LA big-hair.  Love
Connection pays around $75 an appearance -- but then you gotta put up
with the audience's choice.  Personally, I'm waiting for the
re-resyndication of The Dating Game to appear.  

Whatever,

Desiree


N.B. To Tim or anyothers -- This topic is getting to be a "just
     let's agree to disagree" situation -- if you really wanna continue
     this, I'd be happy to do so in email from this point on.  I
     followedup to Tim only because I thought he brought about some
     interesting points -- and I'm doing the work avoidance thing.

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: whedon@netcom.com (Bill Whedon)
Subject: Re: Advise needed
Keywords: advise,men,how to find
Organization: Laughing_Dragon
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:57:21 GMT

In article <77579@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>In article <scott.728031354@trimtab> scott@fillorkill.Eng.Sun.COM (Scott Boyd) writes:
>
>>erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1993Jan23.005359.18767@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
>>>>In article <77256@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>>>>>dan@BofA.com (Dan Brockman) attempts to suck up to:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Tina-- you are all right --
>>>>>
>>>>>You know, it doesn't bother me that Dan (*another* Dan) tries to suck up to
>>>>>what appears to be a nubile female.  What *does* bother me is that he's so
>>>>>damned *blatant* about it...  Why be so obvious, and thereby reveal how
>>>>>desperate you are?
>>>>
>>>>Well, maybe he's more comfortable with his desperation than you are with
>>>>yours.  Come to terms with it Ed, and then you can be proudly desperate.
>>
>>>The only flaw in your argument is that I'm *not* desperate.
>>>-- 
>>>Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
>>
>>I've met Ed. I know Ed. I've worked with Ed (and read excerpts of his
>>posts to ba.singles.) Ed is definitely ... *desparate*.
>
>Never listen to a man who can't spell 'desperate'.
>

Maybe he really meant "disparate"?  That works...

Bill Whedon   whedon@netcom.com




-- 
C, ICON dBase Ada!  Paradox?  (B Jovial, Pascal!)
From: kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Advise needed
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:44:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: a2i network

mbr@bellcore.com (Mark Rosenstein) writes:

>Oh you mean like Ballerinas and (speak of self-battering) football players?
>Or are you speaking of firefighters who intentionally expose themselves to
>carcinogens? Or those in caloric depriving professions like Modelling?

>Heck. Think of the labor savings for Church's Chicken if some Ag School
>could develop self-battering chicken.

I see your point.  Unless you're a real good football player, your career
ends by the time you reach 22.  When you turn pro, generally pretty good
bucks are available and most of the guys are in excellent top shape.
Not too battered there.  Some survive better than others.

Ballerinas, let's see, I know nature didn't intend human to walk & dance
on our toes, but they are artistic and beautuful to watch.  They bring
a lot of joy to this world that outweighs this possible self-batterment.

Firemen are brave and save lives.  Theirs is one of the most dangerous
jobs in the world.

Most models are beautiful, but after age 22 they have peaked, and can go
back to a more normal physique.  (that is female models)  Male models
don;t have to starve themselves, just have to be in good shape, good muscles,
good face, and can model as long as they can hold down the job.  Age doesn;t
make a whole lot of difference.

Church's chicken is greasy, fatty, high cholesterol and of almost no value.
No matter what the chickens do before they are exterminated and deep fried,
the labor saved will be minimal. 
-- 
Ken Papai <kpapai@rahul.net>
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Cloning as a way of life (was Re: Fake persons)
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:01:40 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <185143@pyramid.pyramid.com> mwoo@pyrnova.pyramid.com.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo) writes:
>
>
>>	Yea, I don't fool around with clones either.  As sexual partners,
>>they're pretty dead.  
>Speak for yourself, Tina.
>Margaret

Actually, Margaret used to date a clone of Kareem Abdul Jabbar until
she realized he never wanted to cuddle and was a very cold person.
Sort of an iced Kareem clone.
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: whedon@netcom.com (Bill Whedon)
Subject: Re: Beer & Brats in Gilroy
Summary: Bill & Mike's Big Adventure 
Keywords: Bratwurst BBQ Beer
Organization: Laughing_Dragon
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:56:29 GMT

Keeping it out in the open is important.  It will stay in the eyes and
minds of those with either or both.  Hmmmmmm...  Anyhow,...

I told you about the ground around here.  Talked to the groundskeeper,
and he says it will be safe after about 2 relatively dry weeks.  That, 
I do believe, will put it in late Feb./ early Mar.  Hope this isn't too
late for all?  (This also assumes that the weatherpersons are correct in
their assessments of the current El Nino pattern... may/could be sooner).

So, CA-persons who know about the usual weather trends, I put it to you:
When do you think the weather will be amenable to an outdoor boink?  We
have a large grassy area with some assorted concrete slabs for our use,
several outbuildings which are suitable shelter, should the weather take
a turn for the worse, I have two grills available and Mike leads me to
believe he has more on tap.  I think BYOFAD is a good idea, unless there
is a plan for a theme, with persons promising to come and bring something
specific... possibly not the best idea going.  Oh.  I forgot that I want
to crosspost to alt.peeve(s), so would one of you who is peeved that you
are ostensibly not invited, please copy this item verbatim to there?

For the terminally nerdish, someone should bring a frisbee or two (sigh!),
so they don't feel _too_ left out.  Smashball is good, as is volleyball,
but, sadly, no basketball net is in evidence here.

There are places to hide if you abhor human contact, but want to lurk, so
lurkers are welcome to bring shotgun mikes and binoculars.  

Sorry, Tina, but people of the steatopygous (sp?) persuasion are welcome,
as are those not classically beautiful.  I do hope you will come, though,
since I _think_ we may have said "hello" at the door to Harry's that eve,
and, assuming that _was_ you, well, you didn't look all that vapid to me.
Sorry, Des, but that was a good word, and I had to use it.  Need I consider
paying royalties?

(Aside to Desiree:  Sorry, but I don't really believe you're Tina.  Can I
have a Tootsie Roll, anyhow, though?)

Back to the original thread:  It would be best to hold the thing on a Sat.,
as there are sometimes church groups which, on no discernable schedule, use
parts of the place on Sunday afternoons.  Arrival time should be from, say,
11AM to 12 noon, and I see no reason to shut down before dark.  After dark
is anybody's guess, as there is no power over there on the hill.  Hmmmm...

Well, that's enough from me for now.  Mike, back in your court!
Bill Whedon   whedon@netcom.com

-- 
C, ICON dBase Ada!  Paradox?  (B Jovial, Pascal!)
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Just a SMALL technical Question
Date: 21 Jan 93 04:24:40 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

desiree@netcom.com (dmc) writes:
] 
] 	Yea, I have actually.  But in pre-entrance exams the gas kept
] dripping on my nails and then I'd totally ruin my manicure.  It was a
] messy sight.  Course the effect of eight outta ten nails on fire was
] quite fascinating and did start a new hobby with me.
 
Desiree,

Not that I would wish to Cast Asparagus on your Reputation,
but isn't playing with fire a sign of unresolved sexual frustrations?

ciao
drieux



-- 
MajorModernDayProblems: 

sometimes, a thing will happen after another thing, 
and they may not be connected..... 
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: Questions from a disillusioned newbie
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:56:01 GMT

In article J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM, J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM () writes:
>   I've been reading this newsgroup for a couple of weeks now, and all I see
>is flame, flame, flame.  Is that standard here?

It seems that there are a few folks who have short fuses.  Most of the time,
there is more reasonable discussion, often a little heated.  Frequently a number
of different viewpoints, usually well presented.

I do note that there are a few folks who seem never to have anything to 
contribute other than to attemt to denigrate others for anything that they 
say or do.  They seem to take great pleasure in pointing out what they think
are the defects in someone's (perhaps everyone's) posts.  One can only hope
that they get a life or drown in their own bile.

>
>   There's this flap over this Tina character, and the ensuing debate between
>her supporter and her detractors (note that "supporter" is singular here, gang)
>about the entire episode.  Is it always necessary to wear a flame retardant
>suit here?  Wow...I didn't know that one had to be divisive to be single today.

You don't need flame retardant.  But you do need to have a bit of a perspective:
it's only the net.  You need not take every asshole who makes some incoherent
response to your posting seriously.  

Tina made statements on the net which I don't think that the majority of
people would make in public.  And the net is public.  Worse, she understood that
they might be offensive to a number of people, but continued to defend them.
The net is not know for being particularly tollerant of insults or for being
patient.

>   'Scuse me while I sneak out the back door before the flames come this way...

Don't trip over the trash cans in the alley.

---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Howdy, everyone. I'm new here.
Date: 29 Jan 93 01:57:22 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <185188@pyramid.pyramid.com> mwoo@pyrnova.pyramid.com.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo) writes:

>In article <1k9jsqINNkl9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cd975@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel K. Holmes) writes:

>>Daniel Kyle Holmes
>>Born 22 June, 1962 Pasadena, Texas
>>Moved to California from Texas 27 October, 1985

>I want more "vital" statistics.

Does "pencil peck, the cat packer" have ANY meaning?  ;)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177

"It is your resistance to 'what is' that causes your suffering."     -- Buddha