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From: hurl@quads.uchicago.edu (karen m hurley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Demodex
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:42:46 GMT
Reply-To: hurl@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago


     First, let me apologize for my previous botched posting; I think
I have finally figured out this editor.  In any event,
the original posting concerned our five month old, gorgeous, Newfoundland
puppy, named Gracie who is perfect in every way but for a case of what is
apparently "mange".  These mites (which the vet showed us under the
microscope) have caused her to loose the hair around her right eye and has
now spread under her chin.
    The vet had initially resisted treating her, hoping the problem would
take care of itself, but clearly that is not the case.
     She was on anitbiotics and sulfer baths for a week and finally
got her first insecticidal bath on Monday.  The vet said that demodex can
be very frustrating to treat and that we may not see any improvement for 
quite some time.
     Has anyone else out there had to deal with this problem?
     What are the potential side effects of the treatment, especially in
a puppy?  We discussed these with the vet and our breeder, but I would
appreciate further input.
     Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated; we are very
worried about our little one, though she doesn't seemed at all
phased by these goings on.
     Thanks in advance!!!


Karen Hurley and Evergreen's Harbor Grace
hurl@quads.uchicago.edu
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From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Get Your Pet Neutered
Keywords: Neuter
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:35:24 GMT

Quite a chart!  Here's a simpler one:


  Are millions             ------------------------- 
  of pets being   YES     |                         |
  abandoned and ________\ |                         |
  euthanized            / |                         |
  every year              | GET YOUR PET NEUTERED!! |
  in the US               | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
  alone?                  |                         |
                          |                         |
                          |_________________________|


As soon as the population problem is solved, the fancier chart Nancy
cites applies.

-- Jon
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Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
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From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Re: DQ at Working Events???
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:20:15 GMT

Anne B.:
>
>So, all those dogs who lost their tails in car doors can
>now get a CD!
>-- 

Now if only my cute little spayed mutt could get a CD!  I know, I know, there
are competitions for mixed breads, just not through AKC.  But they're few
and far between.  And I imagine there's nothing like performing in a really
big show like the ones they have here in Chicago at McCormick Place.  Really,
what would be the harm in letting neutered mixed-breeds compete?  It could
mean a lot more registration fees for AKC and entry fees for obedience trials.

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From: shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard)
Subject: Re: Dog Wetting Self
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:47:28 GMT

kmurphy@orangutan.cv.nrao.edu (Kim Murphy) writes:

>The group should be reminded that Dexatrim is not without its side
>effects eiter.  It does not just tighten the spincter (sp?)  muscle to
>the bladder to prevent urine leaking.  It constricts other muscles as
>well.  Some people have had serious side effects due to this, so I'm
>sure dogs have as well.

>Kim Murphy

Thanks, Kim, Ann, and Ruth.  I saved off your responses and I'm going
to print and and take them in to Dr. West the next time I have to go
in (with 1 dog and 4 kitties, it's rather often *sigh*).  I don't like
the idea of giving Raven *anything* for an extended period of time, but
neither of us like the leaking (she really seems embarrassed by it).

It never occurred to me that the dosage in one Dex tablet would be too
much for a dog but, boy, does that make sense.

My one consolation is that Raven recently went in for her checkup and
shots and Dr. West was effusive about how beautiful and healthy Raven
is.  Her heart is strong, legs are in great shape, eyes are still clear
but clouding just a little, coat is good, weight is excellent.  Not bad
for a 10.5 year old Black/Lab/White Shepherd mix.  Both those breeds
seem to have some problems occasionally (HD for example).  I consider
myself very lucky and honored to have such a noble dog.  But I digress!
I just want her to live a long time.

I'll check with the vet.  Thanks again.

Shari (Raven's Mom) Bernhard
Also step-mom to Gray-One, White-One, Little-One, and Cassandra
From: garyc@vballdude.EBay.Sun.COM (Gary Carino - Osmotic Volleyball)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: My dog ate a rock :-(
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:29:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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My 9-month-old golden, Summer, managed to swallow one of her rocks last night.
She's never done this before, and she gets infinite enjoyment from chewing
them, so we've never thought to take them away from her.  Now we know better.

Anyway, the rock could be anywhere between the size of a fist (that's on the
big side actually) and the size of a golf ball.  Neither of us actually saw
the rock, but that's the range that Summer had around the house.  They were
smooth decorative-type rocks, so I'm not really worried about tearing, but
it could be big and stop things up.

Can anyone relate experiences about dogs swallowing large (seemingly) non-
digestible objects?  The vet said that the best thing to do was to monitor
the dog and hope the rock passed through.  They did mention that they could
do an Xray, but only in a matter-of-fact tone.  It didn't seem like it was
standard procedure unless the dog stopped up and started looking sick.

Too far from my dog,

gary

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From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:23:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Dog moves to Colorado, has problems, HELP!
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

 I thought Science Diet did not MAKE a lamb/rice.  Seriously.  But regardless,
 the digestive problems would be normal after a sudden change to another brand.
 And the stress of the plane, the new environment, etc.

 I cannot comment on the paws.  I don't live in snow.

 Try rice and cottage cheese for a day or two if the tummy doesn't settle.


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From: lars.hougaard@rose.com (lars hougaard)
Subject: Harness for dog
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:08:11 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-27-93 19:03

I'm contemplating buying a harness for my dog (Alaskan Malamute). 
Having recently been watching dog races, I noticed that all harnesses 
with one exeption seemed to be made of leather (no lining, nothing 
apart from leather straps). The exeption was a nice looking harness 
made of leather but lined with some kind of fur (sheep skin?) where 
the harness go against the dog.

What kind of harness is best ?
Does the lining do any good or just turn out to get soked making it 
worse than plain leather for the dog?

Rgds...Lars
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From: russell@ldgo.columbia.edu (russell such)
Subject: dogs at work
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:24:39 GMT

	I'm pretty lucky:
my dog is always with me. We work
at Lamont Doherty Geological Observatory
(in the seismology department). Jake(three
year old border collie) has become one 
the more interesting members of the
Lamont community. When he's not around
people actually miss him. He serves many useful
purposes from occupying time for professors' and
researchers' children, to rooting out buried seismometers
in the field, to keeping students in line during my
Saturday morning classes. He's usually not a nusance, 
but then there are times when he'll sit in on a seismology 
seminar or tectonics class. If the lecturer paces in front 
of the room Jake may decide to hold him to one spot, 
and that's when I'll hear:

	"RUSSELL WILL YOU GET THAT DOG OF YOURS OUT
	OF HERE!"

But most of the time people are glad to see him. As you
can see by now, Jake has the run of the place. But most of the
time he's at my feet or out on the lawn luring some innocent into
a friendly game of frisbee(and he usually gets what he wants).


Russell Such
From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help with Tissue-eating Dogs!
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:58:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino


This is a universal thing.  The golden we raised for CCI must have been
Catholic because she would "go to confession" every time she did this.  She
would put tissue in her mouth, hang her head low, and slowly come over to
us.  No matter where we were or what we were doing.  She'd put her head in 
my lap, and just stay there.  I learned that this meant she had tissue in
her mouth and although she couldn't resist it, she was coming to confess.
I'd open her mouth, take the tissue out, and scold her.  It never stopped.

By the way, my Sheltie taught her about the delights of tissue.

DB
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Picture perfect
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:09:05 GMT

I got the most wonderful dog calendar that I've ever seen.  It's a page-a-day
calendar with pictures that people have sent in.  It's great because I feel
like I am looking through someone's photo album.  There are some show shots
but mostly it's happy dogs looking out of car windows.  There are some staged
shots--a basset with glasses on it.  Buth they really have a home photo album
feel.  

They are pulling together entries for next year's calendar.  I suggest that
everyone interested should send in their best shot.  Here are scoops:

You send  a snapshot--any size but enlargements are prefered.  Write the dog's
name, your name and address and daytime phone number on a label and attach
it to the back of the photo.  Photo's are not returned and become the property
of Workman Publishing.  With each phot send in an entry form giving the
dog's name, age, breed, owner's name, address, phone number and then a few
sentences about your dog.  Then write the sentence:  I confirm that I am
the owner of all rights, including copyright, in the attached photo and that
I have read and agreed to the rules of the contest.  and sign it.  (OK, all
the lawyers reading are probably getting ulcers, but my guess is that they
would accept the photo with some partial waiver, and then get back to you
with the real form.

The address is
		The 1994 Dog Calendar Contest
		Workman Publishing
		Grand Central Station
		P.O. Box 3927
		New York, NY  10163

.



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From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Can't seem to housetrain smart dog!
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:43:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino


Am I missing something here?  Are you crating her during the day?  If not,
why not???  This is the obvious answer.  And please stop using the cage
or crate as punishment!  Give her a command to go in, and treat her every
time she does.  Going into the crate and being in the crate is a positive
thing.

She won't soil her crate, and it may shift her internal body clock to a
different schedule over time.  You may not have to do this forever.  But
for now, I highly recommend crating.

Good luck.  Aussies are wonderful, aren't they?
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From: almanb@sr.hp.com (Bob Alman)
Subject: Re: samoyeds
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:18:02 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.2]

MYERS ETHELLA ANN (myerse@spot.Colorado.EDU) wrote:

:   If I brush Shiloh regulary, especially during shed times, I can reduce
:   the amount of hair in the house significantly.  Spring shedding is actually
:   kind of cool.  There is something really satisfying about filling up
:   several sacks with hair you've removed from your dog.  

Actually, not too much hair comes out with brushing until the great molt takes
place.  Gus really likes to be brushed and jumps up on the work table in
anticipation!  He also loves to be vacuumed too.  The best hair removal
technique I have seen/used is compressed air.  No kidding!  I use our shop vac
and put the hose out thru the door.  Squeeze the hose to concentrate the air
into a powerful stream and direct it into the fur (avoid the ear area for
obvious reasons).  This blows loose hair out and straightens the hair.  You
also can see the skin clearly and if there are any fleas or sores they will be
readily revealed (this is almost impossible otherwise).  If your dog is afraid
of the vacuum, as our last dog was, put the dog in one area and pipe the air
with a hose to where the dog is.  I think they are more afraid of the noise as
opposed to the air stream.  This works best if the dog was just washed and is
a little damp (same goes for brushing----I use a comb because it works better).

While I think of it, this breed hardly ever seems to get many fleas although
ticks charter busses and come in droves.  This has been true in Illinois,
Wisconsin, as well as California where we now live ( fleas are the pits out
here).  Our dogs just don't get them while the neighbors' dogs are eaten
alive!

:                                                          I've heard that
:   some people have woven shed sammy hair into hats and sweaters. Shiloh
:   is biscuit and cream, so his hair would make a really pretty sweater.

A friend of ours took a couple of shopping bags of hair from us and spun it
into yarn.  She knit a sweater using this yarn and the result was a beautiful,
angora-like, very warm sweater.  Put your hand into a bag of this fur and you
will be amazed at how warm it is!  The loose fur can be stuffed into a stocking
and washed in the washer.  

Bob Alman  1-707-577-4148 almanb@sr.hp.com
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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Tails'n'Ears WAS Flame?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:33:03 GMT

> Kim Krattiger writes:
> I feel it is unnecessary and shouldn't really be
> done.  This is NOT meant as flame by any means!  My main gripe is with
> the breed standards for 'pushing' people to get the cropping done by
> taking points off and such.  I believe cropped/un-cropped should be
> judeged the same, giving the owners of 'show' dogs more an option on
> whether this is needed for practical purposes.


Yes, this bugs me too...not just for show dogs, but much more so for PET
dogs...why does a dog that will never see field OR breed ring need to be
cropped or docked? No reason besides "That's how the standard says it SHOULD
be." or "Because I want my Doberman to look meaner."  I've so often wished I
could get a tail reattached to my dobie :( The worst thing is that it isn't
even a remote option to get a pup with a tail since it's so automatic for the
tails to come off at days old 'cos you can't tell at that age if they will be
show quality so you either do them ALL or you need to do it later for the
show puppies which is much more complicated. I recently took care of a dobie
with a tail and ears and it was GREAT! The only reason that the dobie had her
appendages was 'cos she was a 'backyard bred' dog. So the only way I could
ever get a dobie with a tail, it seems, is if I avoided the responsible
breeders...something not quite right about that!

I've heard some of you say you avoid the breeds that customarily get docked
and cropped, and this is in no way a flame to you but I see this as another
really sad point. My puppy coming up is a docked/cropped breed and I had a
hard time with it, and still do, but I finally had to decide that I want all
the other characteristics of that breed so badly that I will simply have to
accept the cropping/docking. It seems very sad that avoiding chopping off
body parts needs to be a factor in choosing a breed!

As it is, I am just praying for a good ear set and the possibility that she
won't be cropped. I've been through the taping once with my dobie and I can
remember swearing 'Never again!' to myself...but that was nearly 4 years ago
and the memory of the awfulness has faded enough that I've been able to break
that promise to myself :(

One day I want to have a dog with a tail to wag...

What would it take to get people to start breeding for the ears and tails
they want the dogs to have? I know that the last thing breeders need is
ANOTHER factor to worry about when breeding, but if they could take the long
view towards making surgery uneccesary it sure would be nice. I've often
thought to myself that if I ever bred dobies I would try to breed for upright
ears, is this realistic or even POSSIBLE?
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From: feldman@cs.tulane.edu (Damon Feldman)
Subject: Re: Get Your Pet Neutered
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-26437]: diana
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:46:20 GMT

>Purebreds do not represent the only source of good genes. "Mutts" can have
>good genes as well- like purebreds the only requirement is that the parents
>pass on good genes. 

Not really.  If you mix a Greyhound and a Rottweiler, for example, you
will probably end up with a dog that has neither the Greyhound's
swiftness and grace, nor the Rottweiler's ability to trot for long
distances.  Also, the dog would be risky in use either as a therapy
dog or as a guard dog.  If the dog's temperment was inhereted from the
"wrong" parent there would be problems, and there is no way to tell 
which side will come out before the breeding takes place.  
(Look at all the first time dog owners who get Chow mixes they can't
handle, terrier mixes that dig, or sheltie mixes that bark) 

>Besides, most "pure breeds" started from mutts.

True, but then the dogs were selectively bred for many generations to
get dogs that "bred true"; that is, their offspring looked like them
instead of some distant ancestor.  Only dogs that breed true can
be expected to have desired traits even before they are born.
Purebreds are merely packages of traits that are desirable in
combination with one another, and exclude undesirable traits.

Damon-- 
Damon Feldman                  feldman@rex.cs.tulane.edu
From: karenp@sybase.com (Karen Paulsell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: I want my dog to obey me.
Date: 18 Jan 93 18:39:01 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

> Terry Weissman writes:
> However, if he manages to gets out of the yard he will not come when I call
> him and I have to chase him.

I trained my dog to play "hide and seek". I hide, he seeks, and 
always gets huge praise when he finds me. Even works when he's
not really interested in leaving the park and getting back in the
car. I hide and call (or sometimes use the dog-whistle), and
he finds me. It gets to be *really* fun, when he's been playing
with other dogs at the park, and I've moved some distance from the
last place he saw me, and really screened myself between shrubs.
Sometimes takes him a minute or two, running, looking, sometimes
I give myself away by giggling, I must admit!

One of my dog-walking companions had terrible trouble with her dog not
responding when called, and her trainer recommended to immediately stop
calling. Don't chase, they looks like "play" to the dog. Hold the leash
in your hand, and walk slowly and steadily toward the dog. The first
episode left me and my dog cooling our heels for about 15 minutes
while my friend stalked her dog. Progressively, the episodes got
shorter. Now, if my friend calls the dog, and the dog starts
prancing off, just assuming this stalking posture (shoulders firm,
head slightly down, eyes focussed on the dog, firm and measured
pace) stems the behavior. The dog knows it won't win.
From: kmurphy@nrao.edu (Kim Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Leaking Dogs
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:20:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

In article <1993Jan22.231940.28012@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, baz@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.ann.binder) writes:

b> Our second dobe that my parents still have developed
b> the same problem and their new vet put her on something called PPA
b> (i don't know the exact spelling...i think phenyolpropa.....)
b> Anyway, my Mom orders this from the pharmacy under the brand name
b> Propagest.  It is actually some type of human decongestant.

(Some deleted)

b> So far so good.  I'll have to ask my vet about Dexatrim...i'm curious
b> if he ever prescribes it.
b> Barb


Just thought I'd mention that PPA is the main ingredient in Dexatrim.
I've read that Dexatrim was first marketed as a decongestant.  If
you're going this route, Dexatrim (or generic equivalent) would
probably be cheaper, unless there might be some
reason your vet has prescribed a prescription dosage.  As far as side
effects, it probably depends on which vet you listen to as to whether they
recommend Dexatrim or DES.  I personally don't like the side effects
of either one, but for the moment it's all we have.

Kim Muprhy
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