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From: fsjdj1@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Another book? (was Re: doug)
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:06:02 GMT

In article <13@jptcs.COM>, Steve.Kilbey%bbs@jptcs.com (Steve Kilbey) writes:
> Could there possibly be another? I hope there are no more Dirk books. They
> didn't have the pizzezz that HGTTG did.

I was thinking about this the other day, and there actually could be another
book, though I seriously doubt Adams is going to do one.

Zaphod wasn't on Earth (or so we are led to believe) when it blew for the
second time, and though the Heart of Gold is still who-knows-where I bet
there's still enough improbability associated with the whole group (and that
stuff about unstability in the plural sectors mentioned in Mostly Harmless)
that ol' Zaphod could have easily slipped them off the planet between the
shooting and the Earth's second destruction.

Besides, who could pass up the opportunity to write a sex scene between Zaphod
and Trillian(s)?  And where, exactly, did Fenchurch go?  I think Adams liked
her too much to just let her blip out.  I could be wrong.  Look at Marvin
(but no one really liked him, anyway).

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From: buster@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Andreas Burmester)
Subject: Re: I hate......
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:56:34 GMT

8904677@sunvax.sun.ac.za (XOR) writes:

>I appologize for the message some idiot has send under my name. The "I Hate 
                                                        ^^^^^^^
>This News Group" message was not send by me ! I was and still is a BIG fan 
>of Douglas Adams.  

What name are talking about? Is 'XOR' your real name? Have you ever read
the netiquette?

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From: s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: CURE
Reply-To: s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:59:31 GMT


Depressing people

  
    are really interesting...

    but the cure lies....


        LIFE SUCKS THEN YOU DIE
                THEN YOU REINCARNATE AS A LEMON CHICKEN
                        AND SOME IDIOT EATS YOU AT A CHINESE RESTRAUNT
                                AT THAT IDIOT LOOKS AWFULLY FAMILIAR...


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From: mcginnis-john@cs.yale.edu (John McGinnis)
Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
Organization: Yale University
	<923209143202@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> <Bz00MB.4EK@cck.coventry.ac.uk>
	<Bz5qxH.9vB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <8f_wZJu00aw5IdaVpy@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:08:18 GMT


In article <8f_wZJu00aw5IdaVpy@andrew.cmu.edu> Jason Paul Togyer <jt3y+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> I'm probably gonna get flamed like crazy for my ignorance, but...
> 
> Wasn't the TV show based on the BBC radio show scripts, NOT on the
> books?  And weren't the radio scripts written before the books were
> published?  Maybe DA originally planned to make Trillian a
> bimbo/airhead, and later decided it would be more interesting to make
> her one of the more logical and levelheaded people around?  
> 
> Just a thought.  Maybe someone could help me out with the timeline.  I
> don't remember the exact order that everything transpired (I know, look
> it up in the FAQ).
> 

Well, first of all, I have to say that I have the misfortune of never seeing
the TV series, so I can't comment on the bimboness of Trillian in that medium.
However, I have read the scripts (many times) and I have the CD's of the radio
show, so I do have a feeling as to how she was originally meant to be played,
and I think I can safely say that she wasn't meant to be a bimbo.  First of
all, she does have a degree in math and another in astrophysics.  Plus, she
just doesn't have the voice of a bimbo.  You know, it isn't all bubbly or
anything.  She sounds pretty smart.

Oh well.  These are just my impressions and probably mean absolutely nothing.
But what the heck, I might as well post them...  :-)

- John
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From: morat@diku.dk (Kristian)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Distance to Betelgeuze
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:00:16 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Hi I was wondering if anyone else have ever noticed the way the distance 
to Betelgeuze isn't constant.

E.G. Page 23 In 'The More Than Complete HHG' Ford hit him with every inch of
the 600 lightyears to his birthplace.
This is just before the destruction of the Earth.

Page 327, Same book, more or less same text, but this time there's only
6(six) lightyears to Betelgeuze.
This happens just upon arriving to Lords Cricket Ground from their visit
to prehistoric time. Three days before the Earth is destroyed. 

Now I know it could be a spelling error, but I've observed the same thing
in the two danish versions, and in the other english version that I've read, 
so you could have the assumption that it is, to say it short, not!

- Kristian.

500.000.000 Chinese Don't Care!!!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Black Ship (was Re: Trillian TV question)
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:24:50 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <23k24+a@rpi.edu> tuffyd@rpi.edu writes:
>In Some article, Someone Writes:
>|> Radio first (and best), then books, then TV.
>|> The first four episodes on radio/TV and book 1 closely match.
>|> It's book 2 that started to change the story - they changed
>|> the Hagunemnon fleet (sp?) into a robot space craft.
>|> (Which doesn't work for me - after all, why would Hotblack Desiato
>|> have taken a remote controlled stunt ship to a restaurant with him?)
>|> As far as I can see, once a change is made it stays made - so the
>|> TV series and records follow the book rather than the radio series.
>
>The part about the Hagunemnon fleet (sp?) was changed after the radio series because this part wasn't written by Adams, but John Lloyd.  Lloyd co-wrote the last 2 or three episodes of the first radio series.  When it came to writing the books, Adams decided that he wanted to do it alone, so he removed all the parts Lloyd had written.
>
>I got this info from "Dont Panic" by Neil Gaiman

I have Don't Panic, and don't remember this bit! The radio script book
makes it clear that the story was changed because they couldn't create a
Hagunennon on screen, for obvious reasons
-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Wodehouse flame
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:15:31 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

Sorry for the missing subject-line in the last message, and this got
chopped off the last message. This is the .sig of who I was responding to

> Nancy
-- 
|.."I've heard snappier comebacks from a bowl of Rice..|....Nancy Norbeck.....|
|......Krispies."  Charles Emerson Winchester III......|.norbeck@bucknell.edu.|
-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: TIME TRAVEL
Reply-To: s14109jo@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:32:23 GMT

The truth about Time Travel is:

    It only exists in the mind..
    
    It is mathematically possible to construct a working time machine, however,
the world will end before such technology exists, therefore, a time machine will
never exist, which is why no one ever comes back in time from one...

    Make SENSE????
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: TIME TRAVEL
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:20:16 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>The truth about Time Travel is:
>
>    It only exists in the mind..
>    
>    It is mathematically possible to construct a working time machine, however,
>the world will end before such technology exists, therefore, a time machine will
>never exist, which is why no one ever comes back in time from one...
>
>    Make SENSE????

This is an argument from ignorance (arguing a position on the sole grounds
that the reverse of it cannot be proven, as in :"There must be a God
because noone has succeeding in proving  there isn't) , 
 , and not even a good one at that 
-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: spm@dar.csiro.au (McEWAN Shane)
Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
Organization: CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:56:36 GMT

s890412@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Chris Diffey) writes:
: She and Ford are the
: only real froods in the story, just as an aside ford chose his name for
: his assignment on Earth ("the minimal research he had done suggested the name
: Ford Prefect would be nicely inconspicuous") How come Zaphod calls him
: Ford throughout the story? shouldn't he only know his real name from the
: small planet in the vicinity of Betelgeuse? and before you say that he told
: him before he left, Zaphod didn't know Ford was there when he went to the
: party in Isilington and picked up Trisha.

It's explained in the Original Radio Scrips (not in the actual story but in
the blurb about the episode) that Ford had his old name deleted from the
space/time continuum and had the name "Ford Prefect" inserted instead. Therefore
he has and always will be "Ford Prefect" to everyone who knows him.

--

  Shane McEwan     CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research    spm@dar.csiro.au
================================================================================
"Look, I'm not much good at big speeches and I know I haven't always been an
easy guy to get on with. And I know that given the choice I probably wouldn't
have chosen you as friends. But, I just want to say, that over the years I have
come to regard you as..............people I met."  -  Arnold J Rimmer
================================================================================
Aspendale, Victoria, Australia 3195  Phone: +61 3 586 7503  Fax: +61 3 586 7600
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: bjornts@ii.uib.no (Bjoern Tore Sund)
Subject: Re: Radio Scripts
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Bergen
Distribution: inet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 11:43:43 GMT

In article <OAHVENLA.92Dec13200625@lk-hp-4.hut.fi>, oahvenla@snakemail.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi) writes:
|> In article <Bz6KM0.D1D@matilda.vut.edu.au> mike@win3 (Michael Paull) writes:
|> >	Being a huge Douglas Adams fan, and an even bigger fan of HHGTTG,
|> >i've been trying to locate a file i'd seen some time back. The file was a
|> >complete copy of the original radio scripts, it might have been a couple of
|> >files, not sure. Does anyone know of an ftp site that has it? or if someone
|> >has it, can they email it to me .. 
|> 
|> How about buying the book?
|> The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - The Original Radio Scripts

I'm afraid that is the only alternative that should be considered. The radio
scripts are copy-righted, and as such, any unauthorized distribution of them
is illegal. Some time ago, a user posted the whole HHGTTG (Wasn't it?) in
20 parts. He lost his newsnet-account, and was prosecuted under US law. 

Stay clean, dudes!

-- 
    ___   ___
__  |__)   |    Bjoern Tore Sund (BT)   Quote: "Nothing!"
    |__)   |    bjornts@ii.uib.no              - Marvin

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From: mei141@cch.coventry.ac.uk (PH)
Subject: Re: *sniff* <SPOILER>
Keywords: fnord
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:40:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.033115.9734@wam.umd.edu> gisie@wam.umd.edu (Satan) writes:
>
>Is this truly the end?  I cant bear to go on...
>
>BTW - what happened to Marvin and Zapphod? Did I miss something
>in SLATFATF??
>
>
>Im depressed,
>Tim
>
>
>-- 
>gisie@wam.umd.edu
>"How will these windows affect my final document?"


Marvin shut down at the end of So long and thanks for all the fish, having out-
lived the universe several times.  He died of extreme old age, but just before
he passed on he said that he felt good about it, having just read God's last
message to humanity.  He told Fenchurch and Arthur that all of his parts had
been replaced several times except for one:  The part that he wanted replaced
when he first met Arthur, ie the diodes down his left side.

	As for Zaphod, he (according to Ford, who is an unreliable source)
said that him and Trillian had got married and had calmed down a lot, which for 
Zaphod still is pretty wild.

And that is PROBABLY what has happened.

Stephen Buxton

aka mei141@uk.ac.cov.cck

Disclaimer:  Opinions expressed here are not my own, but that of a small fish 
that lives in my ear.

--
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Another book? (was Re: doug)
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:46:26 GMT
	<1992Dec16.175343.28380@Princeton.EDU>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland


   >In article <13@jptcs.COM>, Steve.Kilbey%bbs@jptcs.com (Steve Kilbey) writes:
   >> Could there possibly be another? I hope there are no more Dirk books.

The Hitch-Hikers radio shows were amusing at the time, and the books raised a
few laughs, but I much prefer the Dirk Gently books.  It's actually possible
to re-read them several times without throwing the things in the bin.  Maybe
it's just that they haven't been done to death like HHGTTG.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: lw92csb@ccws-36.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Charanjit S Bharj)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
Summary: TRILLIAN
Keywords: VERY NICE PERSON
  HELLO CLAUDIA
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:33:22 GMT
Reply-To: lw92csb@ccws-36.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


   I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, TRILLIAN IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT, A BIMBO.
    IT WAS ALL ZAPPHOD BEEBLEBROX'S DOING.  HE'S TO BLAME.  AFTER ALL, HE WAS THE ONE WHO PICKED HER UP AT A PARTY WHEN ARTHUR WAS MAKING HIS MOVE!!!!!!

    ANYWAY, AS SHE'S FROM ENGLAND, I HAVE TO STICK UP FOR HER..
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From: spm@dar.csiro.au (McEWAN Shane)
Subject: Re: Distance to Betelgeuze
Organization: CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:11:24 GMT

morat@diku.dk (Kristian) writes:
: Hi I was wondering if anyone else have ever noticed the way the distance 
: to Betelgeuze isn't constant.
: 
: E.G. Page 23 In 'The More Than Complete HHG' Ford hit him with every inch of
: the 600 lightyears to his birthplace.
: This is just before the destruction of the Earth.
: 
: Page 327, Same book, more or less same text, but this time there's only
: 6(six) lightyears to Betelgeuze.
: This happens just upon arriving to Lords Cricket Ground from their visit
: to prehistoric time. Three days before the Earth is destroyed. 
: 
: Now I know it could be a spelling error, but I've observed the same thing
: in the two danish versions, and in the other english version that I've read, 
: so you could have the assumption that it is, to say it short, not!
: 

Actually, the _REAL_ Betelgeuse is only 300 light years away. It can be found
in most astronomy books. I wonder if anyone else has bothered to look it up.
It's a red supergiant in the constellation of Orion.

--

  Shane McEwan     CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research    spm@dar.csiro.au
================================================================================
    "Hey baby, don't try to outweird me. I get stranger things than you free
                       with my breakfast cereal."
                          - Zaphod Beeblebrox
================================================================================
Aspendale, Victoria, Australia 3195  Phone: +61 3 586 7503  Fax: +61 3 586 7600
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
From: scriven@ecf.toronto.edu (SCRIVEN ADAM)
Subject: Re: Another book? (was Re: doug)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:36:56 GMT

In article <domalley.724433684@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
>In <1992Dec14.100602.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsjdj1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>
>>Look at Marvin (but no one really liked him, anyway).
>
>I did!!!
>
>Daniel.
>--
>|       //              |------Daniel O'Malley--domalley@unix1.tcd.ie------|
>|   ===//  ===    ===   |---"In the beginning, the universe was created.---|
>| //  // //  // //  //  |-This has made a lot of people angry and has been-|
>|  ==//   ==// //  //   |--widely regarded as a bad move.":Douglas Adams.--|

Marvin was a comic relief character.  He was also like cannon fodder,
case in point, operating the teleport in Hotblack Desiato's stunt ship.

The thing that bothered me about Marvin was that you couldn't get rid of him.
He kept coming back, like the dog in "Hotel New Hampshire"

He did save their lives a couple of times though, and you can't knock that.

Later.


Adam  (scriven@ecf.utoronto.ca)

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is, as has been remarked before often
and accurately, a pretty startling kind of thing.  It is, essentially, as the
title implies, a guidebook.  The problem is, or rather one of the problems,
for there are many, a sizable number of which are continually clogging up
the civil, commercial, and criminal courts in all areas of the Galaxy, and
especially, where possible, the more corrupt ones, this.
  The previous sentence makes sense.  That is not the problem.
  This is:
  Change.
  Read it through again and you'll get it.
  
				    -So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
				    
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
From: shepa@sersun1 (Shepherd A J)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: DON'T PANIC - the official HHGTTG companion
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:16:20 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

For all those froods looking for a copy of DON'T PANIC, there is apparently a reprint
coming soon. The reprint will contain some extra material which Neil Gaiman is apparently
too cool to write, so the extra bits are being done by some guy called Dave Dixon
(no relation). So watch the bookshelves!

--
Look up, Look Down, Look at Mr. Frying Pan - SPLAT! - 
---> Antony J. "Doppelganger" Shepherd - shepa@essex.ac.uk <---
Freedom for Tooting!
From: C.L.Gannon@newcastle.ac.uk (C.L. Gannon)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Trillian TV question
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:12:39 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <BzFG7q.9M1@brunel.ac.uk>, lw92csb@ccws-36.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Charanjit S Bharj) writes:
>PS MY NAME IS CHARANJIT...OVER HERE ACROSS THE POND IN LONDON


      IT'S NOT A POND, IT'S A FUCKING OCEAN !!!!


              LEO.
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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: Radio Scripts
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Distribution: inet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:45:17 GMT

In <OAHVENLA.92Dec13200625@lk-hp-4.hut.fi> oahvenla@snakemail.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi) writes:

>In article <Bz6KM0.D1D@matilda.vut.edu.au> mike@win3 (Michael Paull) writes:
>>	Being a huge Douglas Adams fan, and an even bigger fan of HHGTTG,
>>i've been trying to locate a file i'd seen some time back. The file was a
>>complete copy of the original radio scripts, it might have been a couple of
>>files, not sure. Does anyone know of an ftp site that has it? or if someone
>>has it, can they email it to me .. 

>How about buying the book?
>The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy - The Original Radio Scripts
>By Douglas Adams, forewords by Geoffrey Perkins and Douglas Adams
>Pan Books, ISBN 0-330-29288-9

'Fraid not - I wrote to Pan a few months ago and they said it was out
of print... 
Actually, if any kind soul out there can manage to procure a copy for me,
e-mail me and we'll talk...

Daniel.
--
|       //              |------Daniel O'Malley--domalley@unix1.tcd.ie------|
|   ===//  ===    ===   |---"In the beginning, the universe was created.---|
| //  // //  // //  //  |-This has made a lot of people angry and has been-|
|  ==//   ==// //  //   |--widely regarded as a bad move.":Douglas Adams.--|