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From: jsdonald@wheaton.edu (Joel S. Donaldson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Petra touring?
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:09:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: wheaton.1992Apr7.040927.12447
Organization: Wheaton College

Add Wheaton College April 23 and 24 Wheaton, IL (outside Chicago).
Tickets for the 24th are sold out.


-- 
Joel Donaldson
Computer Science/Mathematics Major
Wheaton College
--
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: jetfuel@babbage.csus.edu (Dave Jenks)
Subject: Re: "Jesus is Just Alright"
Keywords: Doobie Bros., Jesus, ho-hum, simply, etc.
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:53:10 GMT

In article <kubguiINN1vu@sahara.cs.utexas.edu> psurge@cs.utexas.edu (Troy Carpenter) writes:
>In article <9204082054.AA11656@chippo.Prime.COM> mrs@CHIPPO.PRIME.COM (Michael Seher) writes:
>>I have a question about the song "Jesus is Just Alright" by the Doobie
>>Brothers(yes, I _do_ know what their name is referring to).
>>A few lyrics I remember from the song
>>
>>	"Jesus, He's my friend"
>>	"He took me by the hand, led me far from this land"(?)
>>	"Jesus is just alright with me, Jesus is just alright, oh yeah"
>Take a look at the line "Jesus is just alright with me...".  There is no
>commitment in that line.  It follows from most philosophies that Jesus is
>"just alright".

Oh, come on, guys.  There are two ways to look at this:

    1)  "Jesus is just alright" - "He's okay, you know, 'ho-hum'."
    2)  "Jesus is just alright" - "Jesus, he's like, simply, ALL RIGHT!"

It appears to be a discrepency in how the word "just" is being used -
just semantics, rather than letting the song be either a bad influence
or a building-up of one's faith.  Personally, I choose the latter,
which, to me, says, "Hey, Jesus is cool, and it's okay to think so!"

When I was in high school, I overheard many morning prayer meetings
where the leader would utter many phrases like, "...and Lord, just
show us..." and "...just help us to..."  Now, surely you wouldn't
think that these folks were saying "Come on, God, do what we want,
okay?!?" or "God, this isn't a big deal, so just do it for us."

I don't know the song very well, but I *have* heard the line I quoted
above, and it just ("simply") seems that people are too ready to
condemn secular music.  I've got a few that might surprise you, if
anyone's interested...

--Dave
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: sco@aero.org (Stacey C. O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Country music lover looking for christian music
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:11:52 GMT

In article <1992Mar31.141249.8391@cbnews.cb.att.com> ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:
>In article <1992Mar30.185513.26037@meaddata.com> mcr@meaddata.com (Mary Ries) writes:
>>In article <92088.152336BJM123@psuvm.psu.edu>, <BJM123@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>|>
>>|> I am seeking christian music that is close to country music.
>>
>>So is my brother.  I've suggested Russ Taff's latest album "Under the
>>Influence"... its not exactly Garth Brooks (sp?).. but it has what I
>>would call a country rock kind of sound.  And Russ Taff's album "The
>>Way Home" has a slight country, but more rock sound, also.
>>
>>My brother used to love to listen to the Allman Brothers, Lynyrd
>>Skynyrd, the Outlaws, etc, years ago before he became a christian.  So
>>I'd say he's looking for a kind of "southern rock" sound in Christian
>>music.  Aren't the Outlaws christian?
>>
>>Any other suggestions?
>
>About ten years ago a guy named Ed Raetzlaff put out a couple of albums
>that meet your description.  Ed used to open for The Allman Brothers
>and Lynyrd Skynyrd, and there's certainly a similarity in sound.  
>Definitely southern fried boogie.  Some of the song titles:  "Praise
>Him," "I Know the King," "Finally Found Someone to Love Me," "It
>Took a Long Time to Get to You."  It's certainly blatantly Christian,
>and it rocks.  
>
  Depends how "folk" you like your country. Old Mary and Wendy albums are
great (Sparrow Records), and some Terry Talbot has a very Irish feel - not
exactly country, more like folk...

                      --Stacey
From: akg@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Hughey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Please Help Identify Songs
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:53:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44994
Organization: Purdue University

In article <9APR199213471998@rigel.tamu.edu> dms0207@rigel.tamu.edu (David Smith) writes:
>> 
>I think that song was done by AD.  The album title escapes me, though.  I think
>it came out in 1985.  The album also has songs called "We are the men" and 
>"Lead Me to Reason".  Pretty good album, IMO.

Art of the State.  The best album of all time, IMO!

Mike Hughey
From: gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (RAY,JERRY BLANCHARD JR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Concert Reviews: Petra / MWS
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:12:17 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I got to see Petra last Friday, and MWS last Saturday, at Six Flags over
Georgia in Atlanta.  I sat near the front for both (4th row/7th row), so
I saw and heard everything pretty well.  The sound (and, I think, the 
lighting) were done by an Atlanta company, and was well handled.  The
sound was very well mixed, and VERY loud, even by a rocker's standards.
The lighting was pretty simple, just two rigs, one in front of the stage
and one behind.  Petra also had a few of those laser light things, and 
MWS had a big white backdrop. Both had lots of smoke!  
	Petra had at least part of their stage, and it looked pretty tacky.
It was covered with astroturf and some fake rocks.  They sounded farily
tight, although Bob did screw up a few times, mostly on solos from the
new album.  The only surprise they did was 'Stand Up' from More Power
to Ya.  They even threw in the guitar riff from 'Carry on Wayward Son'
for about 10 seconds!  They were in 'metal mode,' more than I've ever
heard them (in 5 or 6 concerts).  Even the 'this means war' stuff was 
'chugga-chugga'd on the guitar.  Most of the material seemed to come
from Unseen Power and Beyond Belief, and most of the old standbys have 
been dropped from the show.  Still, it was pretty awesome!
	The next night was Michael W. Smith.  He came on stage by himself
at first and sat at his piano and did about 15 minutes of slow, piano stuff.
The he started playing Agnus Dei, and a huge glop of smoke came out to cover
the band's entrance, and the whole band kicked into it.  Best concert intro
ever!  His set was quite a bit different from the Go West tour.  This is
a 5 or 6 date summer tour.  He still did some of the stuff from Go West, 
with the lengthy arrangements trimmed down a bit.  He did mostly stuff
from Go West and Big Picture, along with a couple from I 2 (eye).
He also did a couple of songs from an upcoming album.  Really awesome stuff
one was a slow, magestic type of song with a great chorus.  The other was
 a rocker, but still pretty danceable.  He didn't have any sort of fancy
stage setup.  The drummer had to be Mark Nemer, who recently left White
Heart.  He looked just like him and the style was almost identical.  
Michael surprised a lot of people by how hard he rocked.  He was crankin'
more than the other 4 or 5 times that I have seen him.  All in all, another
awesome concert!
	I was a bit disappointed by the merchandise they had to sell, though.
Petra had three new shirts, none of which jumped out at me, for $18, and
$13 tapes and $16 CD's.  Michael had an incredible shirt that was _most_
smooth, but it was $32!!  I didn't see anyone with one :-)

JRjr





-- 
Jerry B. Ray, Jr.
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, Georgia
Internet: gt6223b@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: tblake@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Tom Blake)
Subject: Re: Music Clubs (repost)
Organization: State University of New York at Binghamton
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:04:52 GMT

"Eleen N. Kamas" <ee2g+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I've ordered by phone a couple of times, and gotten mixed results.

Like Eleen, I've gotten mixed results, but have a good impression of
the place.  They used to claim the lowest prices anywhere, though the
latest catalog didn't mention that.  Still their prices are quite good.

An admitted reason for me liking CB+S is that they seem to be a small,
low-overhead operation.  Longs has a nice glossy catalog.  The CB+S
catalog appears to be typed on a Macintosh, and photocopied.  
Occasionally, I find an update in the mail with the latest releases.  
(I can't help it, I always pull for the "little guy".)

For those of you who may have missed it, their 800 number is
1-800-323-3947.

Another source for mail-order music that wasn't mentioned in the list is
"True Tunes".  True Tunes appears to be the music department of a
Christian book store.  Unfortunately, I keep forgetting to bring in
their catalog/newsletter "True News".

The folks at "True Tunes" seem to be well versed in secular and
spiritual music, and can suggest spiritual bands that have similar
styles to secular bands.  ("Your friend likes `The Family Dog'?  Well,
maybe he would like `Crossed Over'.)

If anyone has their number handy, please post it, if not, *maybe* I'll
remember to bring it in one of these days.

							Tom Blake
							SUNY-Binghamton

P.S.  I have no affiliation with "Chrisian Book + Supply" or "True
Tunes", I am only a satisfied customer.  I doubt they'd even recognize
my name if you mentioned it.  ;-)
From: IO11300@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (I've opened my heart to Christ and His love)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: TAB for songs...
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:29:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92100.162912IO11300
Organization: University of Maine System

Hey everyone!
   this is my first post on netnews, since someone just showed me how to
post today.  I am on IRC quite a bit(as Moshman) if you know what that
is...   Anyway...
I play guitar, and I have been able to transcribe quite a bit of music.
Mostly I listen to Christian  thrash/hardcore groups, and I am wondering
if anyone else out there would like some transcriptions(mine don't
cost any money, since they aren't that good anyway.... :) ..) to help
them along.  I don't have the list of the songs I can play with me right
here, but I can find it later.  I am also wondering if someone else out
there has some stuff that they have transcribed too...
Anyway, a list of the groups off the top of my head (and the songs) are:
Vengeance Rising: (The 'Human Sacrifice' album)
Tourniquet:       (Some of each album...)
The Crucified:    (Most of 'The Pillars of Humanity' album)
                  (A few from 'The Crucified' album)
One Bad Pig:      (Assorted 'songs' :) from 'I Scream Sunday' album)
Undercover:       (A couple things from one of their albums.... The one with
                   'World Came Crashing Down' on it...)

Well, that's about it off the top of my head.. I cna play quite a few others
and figuring most songs out is pretty easy for me, though a lack of money
means a lack of music, so I still can play more than twice the number
of secular songs than Christian songs(don't ask me what the definition
is for that... :)  I've been reading some of those posts and dont' really
wnat to get involved with that.) .
Well, that's it.  My e-mail is :  io11300@maine.maine.edu
If you want some transcriptions, then just mail me(don't post...I don't
check netnews dialy, though I do check my mail daily).   Well, keep
praising God.

Ephesians 5:19-20
'Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs.  Sing and
 make music in your heart to the Lord, (20) always giving thanks to God
 the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.'
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: zulkarna@fraser.sfu.ca (Connie Zulkarnain)
Subject: Wanted: Jesus Northwest '92 Info
Keywords: Jesus Northwest Info
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:45:53 GMT

Greetings...
	I know that information on Jesus Northwest 1992 was posted sometime ago,
but I couldn't find it. So if someone would kindly post it again, or e-mail me,
I'd really appreciate it.
	Thanks in advance.

--Connie
From: moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Cruciform (Randy Rose?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:55:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr9.165520.6355
Reply-To: moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Originator: moeller@aspen.convex.com
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


I saw something in CCM a couple of months back that mentioned a new band
that Randy Rose (of MATW) was in, called Cruciform.

Anybody know anything more than that about it?  Any release dates? Etc?

I figure he wanted an even harder sound that Roger was not looking for.
But of course that is all speculation.

Tom (moeller@convex.com)
From: rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:34:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Whose music is it?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

In rec.music.christian, ras@controls.hccd.harris.com (Russell Soule) writes:

> I've got an interesting question that I haven't seen posted here before. So I
> thought I'd throw it out there and see what you guys (and gals) think...
> 
> ...[he singer] wrote nearly all of our lyrics. I wrote nearly all of our 
> music... I would like to perform some of the old songs that I had helped...
> ..These songs weren't copyrighted or  anything, so legally, I guess I could 
> play the songs to my heart's content... He has stated and re-stated 
> explicitly that "those songs are mine, mine, MINE. And no one else is to 
> play them".
> 
> The reason I bother you with this, is that it has become quite a stumbling 
> block for me. I don't mind not playing those songs, [but] The thing is his 
> attitude. I feel that those songs were written for God's glory (or so I 
> thought), not for our singer's glory. And if that is the case, why shouldn't 
> I be allowed to praise God through those songs also? Whose music is it 
> anyway? If everyone followed his philosophy then our hymnal and praise books 
> would be empty, and all those accompaniment tapes would no longer exist. 

OK, I'll try...[deep breath]

*Abby mode ON*

Sounds like all of you were victims of one of the pernicious vices that 
afflicts young artists and bands: you all (or at least many of you all) were in
it for the strokes to the ego and rationaliized that you were glorifying God.
Please understand -- I speak from experience here and admit to have been 
guilty as charged in my own past. Only over time did I become aware of how
off-base were my real motives.  And the struggle with motives *never* goes 
away. You just either get better at dealing with it honestly or it ruins you.

My advice: walk away from it all. Chalk it up to experience. And if *he* wants
to sing *your* tunes, let him!! Write *better* ones.

*Abby mode OFF*

While the attitude of your singer is ??, the truth is somebody owns and profits
from most of those songs in your praise books. And the music wouldn't exist 
*without* that profit (or an alternate system that provided the writers with a
living). 

All things, whether songs or VCRs, belong to God and are to be used to His 
glory. But there is still a commandment "thou shalt not steal". They may be
your tunes, but they're *his* words. 

Personally, I don't know how you could *stomach* to sing lyrics "to God's 
glory" as saturated with bad attitudes and feelings as they must be to you. 
There is *plenty* of good yet obscure music you could cover. Why cover 
*these*?

Bob (ex member of "All His", etc.) Miller
From: liem1@meadows.Eng.Sun.COM (Liem David Leigh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: WANTED: "A cappella" Wedding Songs
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:10:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: meadows


Help!  Our church choir is performing at several weddings
in the next few months and we need "a cappella" songs.
We are looking for soft, flowing songs suitable for singing
at the ceremony.

Ideally, I would like to find an acappella arrangement of
The Wedding Song (There Is Love).  If something like that
exists, I would *dearly* love to know about it.

I would be glad to talk to any musician out there who has 
the ability to create acappella arrangements.

Any help will be appreciated...

-David Leigh

 Email:  david.leigh@eng.sun.com
From: mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Anthony Carnevale)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: SoulIISoul
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:22:50 GMT
	<1992Apr6.201944.1045@beach.csulb.edu>
Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

ericp@beach.csulb.edu (Eric Pederson  CSE) writes:

>>In article <85660021@otter.hpl.hp.com> arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew
Farmer) writes:
>>
>>   I think the new Soul II Soul LP "Just Right" is released in the UK on 13th
>> April. The reviews I've read have been mixed, most of them hinting at a
>> US-style radio-friendly soul sound, which would be a little disappointing.
>
>I read that the new LP will be called "Club Classics Vol III", just in
>case.

Their first LP was titled "Club Classics Vol I" in the UK, but here in
USA they called it "Keep on Movin'" so it's very possible that it'll be
called "Just Right" here and "Club Classics Vol III" over there.

Erica Harper <eh1m+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I read in Billboard that Caron Wheeler back as one of Jazzys'  featured
>singers.

Finally!  Jazzy B must have realized that Caron was one of the main
reasons why SoulIISoul's first album went over so well.  I guess since
Caron's solo effort "UK Blak" basically dropped like a brick, she's
running back to the Soul.  UK Blak had some real good sounds on it, but
not the kind that make it big on the charts.  	I've always expected
SoulIISoul to create the sound of today's soul, rather than following
along with what they've done earlier.  Maybe Caron will bring something
back into the music and make it different than the rest of the radio
fluff.

-Mike
From: gil@adcom@uci.edu (Gil Vera)
Subject: One Nation Under a Groove
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Organization: UCI
Keywords: Funkadelics
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:50:15 GMT

does anyone know if there is a best of the funkadelics
on cd.
                       gil
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: tevonp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter Kaine Tevonian)
Subject: Psychefunkapus' first album
Summary: I want it!
Keywords: Psychefunkapus
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:20:31 GMT

Hola,

I recently placed an order for Psychefunkapus' first CD, but the record
store called me back and said it was out of press. Arg. So, if anyone has
a copy they want to unload, OR if they know of somewhere that has it and
could possibly get it for me and mail it to me (I would pre-pay purchase
price and shipping and hell, I'll throw in a few extra bucks for the 
trouble) I would be forever in your debt.

Or even if you have an address or phone number of someplace that may have
it. Thanks again...

--Pete Tevonian
  tevonp@rpi.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: ericp@beach.csulb.edu (Eric Pederson  CSE)
Subject: Re: SoulIISoul
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:19:44 GMT

In article <85660021@otter.hpl.hp.com> arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer) writes:
>In rec.music.funky, mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Anthony Carnevale) writes:
>
>   I think the new Soul II Soul LP "Just Right" is released in the UK on 13th
> April. The reviews I've read have been mixed, most of them hinting at a
> US-style radio-friendly soul sound, which would be a little disappointing.

I read that the new LP will be called "Club Classics Vol III", just in
case.

From: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:23:42 GMT
Subject: Re: SoulIISoul
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky

In rec.music.funky, mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Anthony Carnevale) writes:

   I think the new Soul II Soul LP "Just Right" is released in the UK on 13th
 April. The reviews I've read have been mixed, most of them hinting at a
 US-style radio-friendly soul sound, which would be a little disappointing.
 Still, at least we still have Massive Ataack and Smith and Mighty.


	arf
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
From: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu (SUBU Ramasubramanian)
Subject: Indian classical music concert at Purdue
Reply-To: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 08:48:55 GMT

========================================================================
<         INDIAN CLASSICAL MUSIC ASSOCIATION OF PURDUE
<         --------------------------------------------
<                    PRESENTS A FLUTE RECITAL
<                            BY
<                      DR. N. RAMANI
<
<A.KANYAKUMARI (VIOLIN)              GURUVAYUR DORAI (MRIDANGAM)
<-----------------------------------------------------------------

			FLUTE: An indian wind instrument
			MRIDANGAM: An indian percussion instrument
==================================================================

<DATE: TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992         TIME: 7.30 PM
<VENUE: NORTH BALLROOM, PURDUE MEMORIAL UNION
<       WEST LAFAYETTE, IN 47907
<
<TICKETS: $7 (STUDENTS), $10 (OTHERS)
<         AVAILABLE AT
<         LOEB AND HALL OF MUSIC OFFICES
<FOR TICKET INFO CALL (317) 494 3933

 NOTE FOR FOLKS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF LAFAYETTE:
 1.Overnight accomodation can be arranged for a max. of 10 persons; let
 us know in advance (email to ramakril@vm.cc.purdue.edu)
 2. Preferably reserve your tickets in advance
 3. Children below 10 will not be permitted
 4. Directions -

Take I65 (South /North) and exit at State Road 25
After the ramp take a left onto 25 South towards
Lafayette.
At the first Trafic Lights (TL) take a right onto
US 52 West
Keep going on US 52 W, pass two TL
On the third TL take a left onto Yeager Rd.
(At this light you should see a Amoco gas station
just ahead of you and ACE Hard Ware Store on your right)
Take a left onto North Western on the next TL
Keep going on North Western. You should see Smittys on
your left after passing the first TL. After this TL
pass one more TL. On the third TL, you should see a McD
on your left and University Buildings on your right.
You are now on the intersection of North Western and
Stadium.

Pass the next TL and take a right onto State St on the
second TL.
Take a right onto Grant St. on the next TL and park in the
garage on your right, which is right after you make the
turn.
North Ball room is in the Purdue Memorial Union
which is opposite to the garage.
From: jimh@ism.isc.com (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: SoulIISoul
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:34:43 GMT
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Organization: SunSoft Inc., Los Angeles, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigboy.west.sun.com

In article <Edrs=Xa00VovI1gF0K@andrew.cmu.edu> mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Anthony Carnevale) writes:
>Anyone know if SoulIISoul's new album is out yet?  I heard the first
>If anyone has the album, let me know...

Virgin is sending out promo cassettes (with an information sheet that says the 
release date is April 28) and I was sent one. The whole thing sounds pretty
generic to me. The overall ambiance is quiet stormish, one instrumental
is hip elevator music, and Jazzie B's "rapping" is weak. And the greeting
card level of the lyrics shows little imagination. Of course, I was not
impressed by their first album until the remixed singles came out, so that's
what I'm waiting for.

....
jimh@west.sun.com
"Socialism means to socialize." - Max Romeo