From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: The Devil
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:17:26 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov5.070643.13085@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92) writes:
>Does anyone truly understand what hip hoppers, usually 5%ers, mean when they
>say, "The Devil?"  There just seems to be a shallow idea of what this means. 
>It is not a definition of a racist white person or a racist person period.  It
>goes a bit deeper than that.  I don't want to truly get into this topic *yet*,
>because I like to do some quick research and check ups before I really talk
>deep about anything, but from my understanding, 'The Devil,' is strictly
>diercted towards *all* white people and is something taught through the Nation
>Of Islam.  If I'm correct, Malcolm X also had this belief until he went on his
>mecca and learned this was incorrect in accordance with *true* Islamic
>Teachings, which is different from the teachings of the NOI.  I bring this up
>for two reasons: One, I see some people saying in effect, they are not talking
>about me because I am not like that, which may be true in some cases, but
>is not in the NOI Devil term, and Two, this is a conference on rap music,
>and since this is mentioned a lot lately in rap music, it makes it a valid
>topic in this group.  Perhaps by talking about this, we can come to really
>understand what certain rappers are saying.  When I hear Grand Puba say, "The
>Devil," I understand he is talking about *all* *white* people, from what I
>understand of 5% teachings, which is nothing I've truly studied, only read
>about here and there.  That's why I will leave it at this until I do some
>researching, perhaps this weekend, or later, with exams coming up next week. 
>Perhaps somebody else can comment *factually* on this, or perhaps will research
>it themselves and come back with info for the net?
>
>                                             T-Dub
>                                             SHYGUY Productions

To add something for people to think about to what my man T-Dub said, if you
look at the 5% NAtion, they consider themselves gods.  That is what they call
each other.  Now if they call themselves gods, and they think of the white man
as the enemy, who is God's "enemy"?  It logically makes since that they would
call the white man the devil.  Now I am NOT a 5%, so I cannot say if this is
how the term came about, but it makes logical sense to me that they would call
the white man the devil.  This theory is just mine, and has never been
confirmed by any member of the 5% Nation, nor am I a 5 percenter.  But I do
have a question, if anybody out there can answer it.  If 5 percenters are the
5% of the population who are "civilized", and 85% of the population is
"uncivilized", what about the other 10% of the population?  I may have heard
this before, but I just can't remember.  If anybody out there is a 5%, e-mail
me, cause I'd like to learn more about your philosophies.  To everyone that
doesn't like what 5%ers believe in, don't listen to what they say, cause a lot
of that shit makes perfect sense, and you will have yourself doubting your own
beliefs.

The views expressed above are mine and mine only.  You dont have to agree.  You
dont have to disagree.  I dont care either way.  I'm just saying what I think,
and hoping to gain more knowledge, period.  Peace.


K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92