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From: andy@balr.com (Andrew Little)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CSD windowed DOS progs broke
Date: 4 Nov 92 15:06:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: balr.1992Nov04.150624.13930
Organization: Balr Corporation

Help!  One of my most used OS/2 features is broken with the CSD and
SVGA.  I can no longer window any DOS grahics programs - I always get
the following message:  "The system does not support this session's
video mode in a window.  The program cannot continue running in a
window."  I am using a Diamond Speedstar at 640x480x256.  I did the
following steps:

- full reinstall of the GA - regular VGA - no SVGA ON
- windowed DOS graphics programs work fine.
- installed CSD - comes up in 640x480x16
- windowed DOS graphics programs work fine.
- ran selective install - left video type as SVGA
- shuffled GA disks 7-18 for fonts, etc.
- picked 640x480x256 as resolution
- shuffled CSD display driver disks
- comes up 640x480x256
- now no DOS graphics programs will run in a window.

I also tried SVGA OFF, vmode monitor, SVGA ON - no effect.

Please help!  Without windowed dos apps, my system is pretty much
useless.

Andy Little                          BALR Corporation
andy@balr.com                        Software Solutions in Real Time
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: low@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Hock-leong Low)
Subject: SYS3088 error when trying to run WINOS2!  
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:46:45 GMT

Could anyone who recognizes this problem and has a solution please
help me out.  I've had this problem since installing the Service
Pak.

Thank you very much.

:) Jason	low@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu 

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: kevin@csbvax.uucp (Kevin Myers)
Subject: Re: Why I Lost OS/2
Organization: Varian Associates
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:47:27 GMT

	Here here!  I agree with eric.

v053qpgh@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric W Sarjeant) writes:
: Unfortunately, I require Windows more and more. With my CD-ROM drive a non-
: SCSI device, and my sound board unwilling to cooperate in booted DOS sessions,
: and all the good software (Ami Pro, Excel, Procomm+, and all my multimedia
: CD-ROM software) being Windows 3.1 software -- I am left with no other
: option.

	BOO
	---
	I am setup similarly. I wish OS2 would provide more non-scsi
	hardware support. I have a sony 7205 setup to run in that
	kludge way discussed earlier in this group.


: I really hope OS/2 can catch up in the software department. IBM has a top
: notch product here that is highly capable and inordinantly efficient
  (etc)

	I think I will stick out the OS2 platform for now to see how
	IBM will improve it. I have already discovered the advantages
	of its version of multi-tasking.

	YEAH
	----
	I love being able to access the encyclopedia and other reference
	material while doing my word processing.

	BOO
	---
	I wish I could get the clipboard to behave better so that I could
	cut/paste in ascii text only (it seems to want to bitmap my cdrom
	screen).

	YEAH
	----
	I also like being able to run communications while doing other things.

	BOTTOM LINE
	-----------
	I am already hooked into the advantages of using OS2. I will stick
	it out until something better comes along. I sure hope its the
	next version of OS2.
Kevin D. Myers
From: COP80196@UCF1VM.BITNET (Bill Laird)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Nowhere directories
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:13:43 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services

In article <1d90q6EINN2di@uni-erlangen.de>,
clemens@faui8a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Clemens Beckstein) says:
>
>Since I have installed the Service Pack I have now two directories
>called Nowhere...
>    Nowhere
>and
>    Nowhere1
>
>Both are empty, but apparately used from time to time by the WPS
>(which I had to learn the hard way when I tried to delete
>Nowhere1 --- it literally took me nowhere).


The nowhere directory is used by the workplace shell when the object type for
a particular object has gotten corrupted. One of the first things the WPS does
when you install OS/2 is generate extended attributes for each object. What
you have on your system before os/2 is programs and subdirectories. EA's
are generated for these objects and stored in the hidden file EA DATA. SF
(if FAT file system) or incorporated right into the file structure (HPFS).
OS/2 introduces new objects to your system, such as the printer object,
the template object, etc. If the object type should somehow get corrupted,
the WPS stores the item in question in the Nowhere subdirectory. Not sure
why you have two nowhere directories, did you install the SPP over beta?




>
>Also under the SPOOL directory there are subdirectories for
>every printer I once had installed.  Some of them contain
>zero length .SPL files.  Can I erase those files and can I
>(safely erase the subdirs I no longer have corresponding printer
>drivers installed for? (no more experiments...)

You can delete this stuff. When you delete a printer icon, you are only
deleting the icon. Same with a program icon. To delete the physical files
you need to go to the drives icon and do it from there, or do it from
a command line.


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"640 K is all the memory you will ever need"... Bill Gates
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Bill Laird cis student             bitnet: cop80196@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu
University of Central Florida      CIS:    75330,1511
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From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: The swapper file
Keywords: swap
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:07:49 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

In article <16839@umd5.umd.edu>,
adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:

>Hey all.  I just installed the service pack on my IBM PS/2 model 90 at work
>and have noticed something interesting.  On my 486/50 clone at home, my swapper
>file grows like crazy and rarely ever shrinks.  On the PS/2 at work, however,
>the swapper tends to stay way down around 4096k.  If it grows, it'll shrink
>right back as soon as I quite a few apps.

The OS/2 V2.0 Volume 1 Redbook (I think) describes the method of using
space in the swap file. I'll try to summarize it.

When a memory page needs to be swapped out for the first time, a space
in the swap file is dedicated to it (and the page is swapped out). This
space stays at the same place in the swap file until the page is
deallocated (discarded). (This implies that there's no need to "clean
up" the swap file (shifting page spaces, slowing down the system), but
also implies that there can be times when large areas of the swap file
are unused.)  After the swap file has grown and space in the new part of
the swap file has been dedicated to at least one page, the swap file
won't shrink before the last dedicated page space in this part of the
swap file is free again.

In consequence, different sequences of opening and closing the same set
of objects can cause different behaviours (growth and shrinkage) of the
swapfile.

I hope this helps.

Horst
From: gal502@huxley.anu.edu.au (Graeme Lindsell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Sound Galaxy BX for OS2 2.0?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: 13 Nov 1992 02:46:44 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.36.85

I have been looking for a cheap soundcard for my PC clone
(386sx-25, 8meg RAM,120M HD, ET4000 video), the operative
word being cheap, and have seen a review in Aust. PC
recommending the "Sound Galaxy BX", a new cheapo card
with the usual Adlib and SoundBlaster "compatability".

 Has anyone used this card under OS2 2.0? What were your
reactions to the card in general: angel choirs singing
"Hallelujah", projectile vomiting or something in between? :-)

 Can anyone recommending a good _cheap_ card for someone
interested in trying a soundcard for the first time? I am
a PhD student in Oz: my funds are limited and the prices
are higher than in the U.S.

Graeme Lindsell a.k.a gal502@huxley.anu.edu.au
Research School of Chemistry, Australian National University
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak)
Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop system for OS/2?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Mitre Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:43:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.181444.12371@midway.uchicago.edu>,
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Nov10.155715.24001@tamsun.tamu.edu> fab9452@scooter.tamu.edu (Allan Bailey) writes:
> >  Is there a "virtual desktop" system for OS/2?
> >  I'm looking for something like OLVWM for OpenWindows on Suns, and
> >VirtSpace on NeXTs.
> >  Any pointers, leads would be appreciated.
> 
> Trident has implemented virtual desktops with many of its drivers,
> yes.  It works reasonably well, in fact, and they now provide a
> utility which helps in the process.
> 
> Rumor has it that IBM will provide a similar option in the future for
> VGA and XGA.  We'll see.
> 
> Note that the stock drivers support desktop scroll bars.  Move an
> object off the desktop, and a scroll bar appears.  This gives you more
> space than you might otherwise have.
> 

The virtual desktop provided by Trident is fairly limiting.  I believe the
virtual desktop refered to by the original is something quite different.

The two virtual desktop packages that I am familiar with are tvtwm for X
Windows and Xerox's Rooms for MS Windows.  Both systems let you define your
desktop as a array of screens.  For example, I can define my desktop to be
8 screens wide and 3 screens high.  Your physical screen is a view into
this desktop.  There is generally a way to get a meta-view that display a
compressed version of the entire virtual desktop on the physical screen so
the user can rapidly more windows around and nagivate through the desktop. 


Virtual desktops are really nice.  The allow you to partition your work
into different screen areas and jump between them as needed without
destroying the position of the windows or even minimizing the windows.  

I would encourage people to try and checkout Xerox Rooms.  It is a rather
nice package.  I have asked various Xerox sales reps if they are planning
on porting Rooms to OS/2 and their statement was that they would if there
was a demand for it.  If you can't actually see the package, I belive BYTE
magazine had an article on Rooms about two years back (when it was still in
the research stage).  I will try to find a reference for it.

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From: rocks@dante.nmsu.edu (Dave Rocks)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Service Pak problems(deskpic, etc.)
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:38:50 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM


	After installing the service pak last weekend, I have seen several
	problems.

	1) Deskpic now locks up machine. After some period of time with
	screen saver running, system locked hard and big red switch
	required.
	2) PMHPO won't open. No message, just some disk activity and and
	standard emphasis on icon. Task list does not show PMHPO.
	3) After applying SP, icons missing from several of the OS/2
	folders. Most apparent one was system clock. I did not close all
	processes before putting on services pack. Could this be the
	problem? ALso missing productivity folder contents and startup icon.
	I moved some folders and closed everything in preparation for a
	complete reinstall, but everything reappeared on next boot. Curious.
	2a) I reinstalled new copy of PMHPO and still can't start it.
	4) Window opening and object movement on WPS strangely slow
	sometimes. ALso ghost images sometimes left behind when moving
	windows. Inconsistent.
	5) PS/2 mod 75 ordinary machine. Nothing unusual during install
	except mod WOACC?.exe had later date than SP. Replaced. Couldn't
	understand reference in readme about ALT-F1 sequence to reinstall
	old desktop: normal install step or for recovering previous service
	level?
	6) Don't think swap is shrinking but haven't observed closely. ALso
	don't think memory is always being freed after apps close or at
	least don't recover all memory previously available before app
	started.

	I haven't seen anyplace here or on OS2BBS where anybody is
	accumulating tips 'n techniques on the service pack. Might be a
	useful chore for an IBM'er
	old desktop. Normal installation step or emergency restart
From: mlawson@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Michael Lawson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Problem with Desktop
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:08:59 GMT


I can no longer access the OS2 Desktop. When I click on the background I get
a menu list that corresponds to a folder. When I bring up the Windows List, I
only see the Desktop - Icon View active. I may have inadvertantly created a
shadow of the Desktop and then lost power. When I reboot I no longer see any
of the folders or programs which normally were there. If I click on the 
background and select delete, the system warns me that the folder will be 
deleted and upon deletion the WPS is not there any longer. 

Any suggestions?

Mike Lawson
CERC
WVU
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: What the name of the OS/2 (ver 2.1?)Beta
Date: 14 Nov 92 00:53:22 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <97386@netnews.upenn.edu> turabe@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Toshiyuki Urabe) writes:
>Today, I called 1-800-3-IBM-OS2 and asked about the OS/2 2.1 beta 
>in CD-ROM but they said it is not available. Is there any special
>name of that beat version of OS2 or OS2 Engine....?

You want to ask for the OS/2 Professional Developer's Kit CD-ROM.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0g, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Newbie Questions (longish)
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:10:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov13.161937.16413@sura.net> vargish@sura.net (Nick Vargish) writes:
>3. Someone mentioned an "rm" written for OS/2... I couldn't find it on
>   hobbes. Could someone point me in the right direction? And, while
>   we're at it, how about an "mv" that runs under OS/2?

Both rm and mv (and cp, and cut, paste, and many others) are included
in the gnu file utilities.  Download it from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  The
package is gnufu.zip, and I believe it's located in /pub/os2/2.0/gnu/

>4. While I'm on the subject of UN*X utils, how do I change the display
>   colors for less? Without re-compiling, that is. The current black-
>   on-orange is downright painful.

Less (like all EMX applications) uses terminal settings.  Be sure you
have a valid TERMCAP file somewhere on your drive.  Set the TERMCAP
environment variable to point to it, and set the TERM variable to your
terminal type.  You may then configure your colors as appropriate by
modifying the TERMCAP file.

The structure of TERMCAP is confusing, but it matches the Unix TERMCAP
file format.  I can e-mail you the TERMCAP manual page if you need it.

>6. While TE/2 is not working, I am using ProComm+ (which I like
>   plenty). But the patch file (on hobbes) does not come with the
>   "patcher" executable (not to mention that the install.exe in the
>   archive was the wrong size) and the mouse thing is a big hinderance. 
>   Makes using the rest of the desktop sort of like a game called 
>   "Keep the Pointer Away From the ProComm Window." Any suggestions?

1) The patcher program comes with Procomm Plus 2.01.  It should be in
your PCPLUS directory if you installed from the original distribution
disks using the included install program.

2) Without the patch, you can effectively disable the mouse by going
into the PCSETUP program and set mouse sensitivity to 999 on both
axes.  You won't possibly have enough desk (or arm-length) to get the
cursor to move this way.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sstrong@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Prob Installing OS2 on NEC Powermate 486/33e
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:51:56 GMT

As the Subject says,

I am having great trouble installing OS2/2.0 on my Nec powermate 486/33e.

Has anyone out there put os2 on this beast?

Please email.
Thanks.
Steve
-- 
sstrong@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Electrical Engineering, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Paradise prob (was "No OS/2...")
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:22:31 GMT

I've noticed that a number of folks are changing the followup to point
dircectly back to the poster. I suppose this is partly due to the volume of
posts, but it is not very nice net etiquette. Also, I suspect that many of
the experts will refuse to bother with such a post.

>From: ruehled@kirk.msoe.edu, Milwaukee School Of Engineering, Milwaukee, WI USA
>Summary: I can't get OS/2 to run on my system and I don't know why?
>Date: 5 Nov 92 15:04:16 CST

>[Paradise problems]

There is a replacement for bvhsvga which may help.
---  FIX FOR OS/2 2.0 APAR PJ03721  ---  May 19, 1992

APAR:      PJ03721

SYSTEM:    OS/2 2.0 GA

Module(s): \OS2\DLL\BVHSVGA.DLL

CORRECTS:

In general - None.

Specific -   Fixes problem with OEM and PCM systems using the
             Western Digital SVGA video adapter with VRAM. This
             problem caused OS/2 2.0 to terminate with error
             "C0000005" when the SVGA.SYS driver is loaded in
             CONFIG.SYS.

Try ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/2.0/ (possibly ibm/fixes). 

-- 
--Darrel Hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with OS/2 2.0 w/SP
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:43:02 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BxKt77.8zo@hfglobe.intel.com> bharris@hfglobe.intel.com (Bennie Harris) writes:
>Modifing the win.ini worked for me. I copied the Word for Win 2.0
>settings from my 3.1 win.ini and pasted them into my win-os2 
>win.ini. You may also have to update the LIBPATH= statement in
>your config.sys to point to your W4W path and reboot. Your autoexec.bat
>should also include the path to your win3.1 and win3.1/system 
>directory to avoid other problems when running Win-OS2. I was able to
>run Word for Win 2.0 without re-installing.

Don't touch LIBPATH.  This variable has NO EFFECT on Windows DLLs.
WIN-OS2 fetches its DLL's the same way Windows does - by searching the
DOS PATH.  Place the directory on your DOS PATH (via autoexec.bat).

I didn't have to re-install winWord either.  I backed up my win.ini
file and just replaced it after installing the SPP.  I figured that
anything critical would be in system.ini and not in win.ini.


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From: Jerry.Guizar@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jerry Guizar)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: ATI users unite!!! We ne
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 22:14:00 -0500

 
   In article From Terry Andres (andrest@wl.aecl.ca): 
 
[stuff about video problems when switching from WINOS2 deleted] 
 
 > I used to get the same problem on my Gateway 486DX2/50E with ATI Ultra, but 
 > I don't anymore.  Following some earlier posts, I made sure that VIDEO_8514A 

 > _XGA_IOTRAP was set OFF and VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION was set ON for  
 > WIN-OS2, as mentioned also in the README (at least the new one).  Then I  
 > started to make sure that I was back at the WIN-OS2 desktop with no  
 > hourglass before trying to return to the OS/2 desktop (also as per README).  

 
   I have the same setup here (ISA instead of EISA). I used to notice that 
problem before also. I changed my settings to reflect the README file also 
and haven't noticed any problems since. I have a couple quick questions for 
you; have you run SVGA ON from a DOS Full-screen yet? I noticed a change in 
there. Under GA (and I believe the Beta also), I could type SVGA WHO in a 
Full-screen and it would correctly identify my ATI GU. If I went to a windowed 
session and did the same thing, it would report a TSENG card. Now with the SPP 
it tells me that the command must be run from a Full-screen session. 
 
 > But the change that really seemed to make a difference was learning to wait. 
 
 > Returning to the desktop takes time.  It used to be that I would type  
 > ALT-ESC, nothing would happen, and so I would type it again, or maybe try  
 > CTRL-ESC, and would finally get back to desktop to find my DOS windows  
 > screwed.  Now I type ALT-ESC and wait for precisely 15 seconds.  During that 

 > time nothing seems to be happening.  Then all of a sudden the WIN-OS2 screen 

 > dissolves and there is the OS/2 desktop, intact, undamaged.  Why 15 seconds? 

 > I have no idea, but it is consistent and repeatable (and somewhat annoying).

 
   I've tried CTRL-ESC here, but nothing happened, so I stick with ALT-ESC. 
One thing I've noticed (after the delay) is my desktop seems to restore 
slowly once it starts (I don't know if having Animation On has any affect on 
that or not). 
 
 > > Please help! And everyone with an ATI, get on the horn to ATI! 
 >  
 > Couldn't hurt. 
 
   I've been doing this since back around June/July (less frequently lately). 
I wish they had their BBS set up so that callers could leave messages. I think 
they would've gotten the message sooner by looking at the volume of traffic 
that would've been in such a message base (of course potential customers may 
have been turned off seeing a lack of commitment). The last time I talked to 
them, I let them know that IBM said they would write drivers and turn the code 
over to them, so there should be no excuse for not getting them to the 
customers. 
 
Jerry 
 
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