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From: st1o5@Elroy.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: LIST: drug test info
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:09:58 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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Found this list on a promotional flyer for a band (Love Twitch).  I dunno if
this information is accurate or not but here it is anyway.
 
Times for drugs to become undectable
--------------------------------------
 
Name                       Anaclinn-Roche                Hoffman
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Amphetamines/stimulants        3-4 days                    20-25 days
 
Antidepressants                3-6 days                    -----------
 
Alcohol                        ---------                    1-2 days
 
Cocaine                         26 hours                     2-4 days
 
Demerol                         24 hours                   ------------
 
Heroin/Morphine                48-72 hours                 10-14 days
 
LSD                            -----------                   20-40 days
 
Marijuana                        5-7 days                    14-30 days
 
Methadone                        72 hours                   -------------
 
Methaqualone                    ----------                  14-21 days
 
Phencyclidine (pcp)             5-15 days                     10-14 days
 
Phenobarbital                    30 days                       10-14 days
 
Propoxyphene (Darvon)            72 hours                    -------------
 
Tranquilizers                    16-24 days                  -------------
(valium, librium)
From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Date: 6 Jan 1993 00:38:56 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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To Dwight Stone:

I hate looking stupid.  Is it N20 or NO2.  I have no idea-- just
picked up on the N2O from a previous post.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Heathen Undergarment)
Subject: i agree - i'd be shoting smack on a reservation (!)
Organization: Ouphilia, Inc.
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:41:30 PST

> Beg to differ.  Don't get me wrong, I think alcoholism is a 
> disease; but you aren't using a very good model to prove it.

	this may not be the best of models, but according to people i've had
speaks with it is a genetic thing, because even indians living off of the
reservations (partial descendants, etc.) have experienced the alcohol problem.

> But saying that the only reason people are heavy drinkers of 
> alcohol is due to alcoholism, when there are other pressing 
> reasons making the drinking of alcohol seem a great thing to 
> do, is attempting to prove your point through ignoring the bad 
> data.  This only works in Physics 101 Labs; not in the real 
> world...

	actually, that's pretty far from what i was saying...there's the
difference i drew between chronic drinker (which can be psychological, usally
is) and alcoholic (many of whom are chronic drinkers, alcoholism being the
cause, chronic drinking the outlet)...

>  
> -- 
> Never do this at home.  Look how easily it killed this sig.
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From: tonya@csa2.lbl.gov (TONYA PUONCEY)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mushrooms
Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:29 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
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>>Does anyone have any advise on countering the common side effects of
>>mushrooms.  i.e. nasea, stomach cramps, coming down.
> 
> 
>A full stomach helps beforehand, Darin. Try pasta or heavy breads.
>(Shroom pizza topping!) As for coming down - alas...
> 
>What goes up...
> 
>Mark B.:-)

I must thank the poster (whose name I didn't note...) for those words of 
encouragement about posting.  Actually, I'm worried about getting a 2nd 
job and any funny testing that may occur...

But as for this article which is enclosed... UHHHHH There is no way that 
I would ever trip on anything more than an empty stomach.  The drug 
action curve is severly clipped, and I think schrooms are just 
disgusting to eat.  There have been some real good ones I've had, tasted 
just like 'pizza topping' style mushrooms.... They were freeze dried.  
If they've been in the back of a Dead Head's VW van at some shows in Las 
Vegas in May or something, maybe that's why u got cramps.  But to have a 
full stomach is to risk not getting off (Or so I've heard).HA!

Also, I think the sterotype that the crack smoker is a black or Hispanic 
youth from LA or NY is really not valid anymore.  Dealers, incredulous 
at first, and now just too FUCKIN ORNERY to bother with, kept telling me 
Yeah You white boys are sure comin' around alot to score these days 
(i.e. crack, not freebase, not 'ice cream', not powder, shit ROCK).

later!
-tc
From: tscorbit@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS SAVAGE CORBITT)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Want info on HUFFING
Date: 9 Jan 93 03:35:03 GMT
Reply-To: tscorbit@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS SAVAGE CORBITT)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: tscorbit@c00732-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu


Where I come from huffing means sniffing gas, glue,
or paint thinner etc...
I knew some friends that huffed freon (they would break into 
old car lots and try to find old cars with air
conditioners ) but that must just be brunswick county :)
Gives you a really bad headache, and I know it's gotta 
kill brain cells. I quit when I was 10 when I saw the 
purple gas monster .
Anyway the real reason I posted was to say 
YES Gas Huffer is still around. Their last album was on Empty
records. I'm not sure who put out their new one.
Cool band check thenm out.
tscorbit@eos.ncsu.edu

Please, hold your flames.
thank you
From: dude@losers.hacktic.nl (Dude)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: drug dog
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:13:37 GMT
Organisation: black mail inc.

In article <1ich9oINN135@shelley.u.washington.edu>, Ed Meese writes:

BI> >>  But be careful -- the dogs are trained to sniff out not the acid itself,
BI> >>but the strychnine.  So, if you want to set up some "false positives"
BI> >>around your school or workplace, try smearing some strychnine on napkins, 
BI> >>thermoses, telephone receivers, etc, you know, the types of places where
BI> >>people hide LSD.  You will of course need some DMSO to make the strychnine
BI> >>bond to smooth surfaces.
BI> 
BI> Uh Oh!  Here we go again...PLEASE! Take this strychnine business over to
BI> alt.folklore.urban where it belongs.

Er, I think the posting was meant as a joke. DMSO is a chemical that takes
other substances through the skin. If you did what Wayne wrote you to do,
there would be a lot of dead people at school now...

                  Dude
                  
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From: ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward)
Subject: Re: drug dog 
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:43:43 GMT

journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk (Andy Settle) writes:

>>
>>   By the way, I recall reading somewhere that drug dogs can smell a drug
>>hidden in an air-tight container in a full gasoline tank. This is a little
>>hard to believe.

>Tis hard to believe.

I had a hard believeing this one too.  But I went tracking with AFOM and 
his vet this weekend.  She (the vet) talked of this case and other things that
(some) dogs can do.  Like smelling underground pipe leaks in New York and 
for the Alaskan Pipe Line.  She also said that, a dog not being able
to track through water (i.e. a stream) or a dog being thrown off by 
pepper, coffee... are all wifes tales (as she put it).  She did say 
individual dogs will have different ablities.  For example her Blood-
hound regularly does the imposible, Baby-Bad (what a name for a dog)
will track on the side of the track so that the wind should be blowing
the sent away from him, but he seems to prefer this side (this was in
serious wind 20 m.p.h or more).  She also said there are documented cases
of dogs following tracks (people) months and even years after the track was
laid.  But, not every dog can do things like this.  So I would say it just
might be possible for a dog to smell drugs in a gas tank, however, that would
be a rare dog indeed (if the DEA didn't fake it that is, however, I do 
believe it to be possible...just not common).

It just go's to show you YMMV.



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From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Fentanyl and derivatives
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date:  7 Jan 93 17:57:39 GMT

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:


> Sorry. I looked at my Merck and *sheesh!*. I was close I suppose, but I
>guess that's not enough, now is it?

Negative. 

You might say MPTP is *close* to alpha-prodine but you wouldn't go sticking
it in your arm, now would you?

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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Mescaline from toluene
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:56:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.172627.9011@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
>  A while ago someone posted offhandedly remarked about someone that he
>knew knew how to make mescaline from toluene. I must say that I scoffed
>along with everyone else at first, but I thought about it for a bit and
>decided that it could actually be done, althoguht through several stepd
>and not very efficiently. 

The original poster claimed that mescaline could be made *easily* from
toluene.  That's what I (and probably Howard Black, too) were scoffing
at.  Theoretically almost any organic chemical could be synthesized
from another (fairly) arbitrary organic chemical.  A common exercise
in O-chem classes is to plan syntheses long, branched alkanes and alkenes
starting with something small.

Practically, it doesn't work that way.

> Getting all of the nitro groups into a 3,4,5 configuration is no simple
>task, however and probably can't be done. I would first nitrate the
>toluene to para-nitro toluene. T

Careful here, or you'll end up with TNT.  Toluene will nitrate in the
2,4,6 positions spontaneously, I believe.

>want to give up because there are much simpler ways to make mescaline.
>Hell it can be made easilly enough from gallic acid. But I would _love_ to
>see a reference describing the whole process from toluene! If one exists
>that is. 

It would be a *REALLY MEAN* assignment for some graduate level O-chem
class to even plan this synthesis.

> However. TMA-6, (2,4,6-trimethoxyphenylisopropylamine), a creation of
>Alexander Shulgin's, can be made from toluene via nitration to TNT,
>followed by oxidation of the methyl to carboxyl, followed by

Interesting.  Is this in PiHKAL?  I'm wondering about oxidizing the
methyl group in TNT.  I wouldn't want to try it meself.  Then again,
I'm an analytical chemist, not an organic chemist.

What do you think, Howard (Black, that is :-) ?


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From: Shadowfax@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Shadowfax)
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: query re: drugs and us security cleara
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 20:21:50 -0800


 RR> From: RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson)
 RR> Organization: GTE Laboratories

 RR> At the induction center I admitted that, yes, I did try marijuana once, 
 RR> and that was it. The FBI's $20,000 Top Secret Clearance -out the window.

 RR> My career in crypto - gone. And the funny thing was that the guy who 
 RR> interviewed with the doctor right after me denied everything, gave all
the

In 1988 I joined the Canadian Navy, I admitted using marijuana and hashish in
my early years at high school.  The interviewer took it all down and then
asked if I drank alcohol, I told him no (at the time I hated alcohol) he
looked more incredulous at that than my previous answers.  =)  I'm not sure
how the American Forces view past drug use, but I did get my secret clearance
after admitting to recreational drug use.  The philosophy in the Canadian
Forces is that if you come clean with that sort of thing it's less likely to
be used against you by 'foriegn agents' trying to blackmail you.

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From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Subject: Re: smoke
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:54:08 GMT

In <4JAN199310475300@csa2.lbl.gov> tonya@csa2.lbl.gov (TONYA PUONCEY) writes:

>In article <103144@netnews.upenn.edu>, cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello) writes...
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>>Just a reminder (I'm sure you all know this anyway):  When you post
>>>"I smoke crack" here, you are etching a permanant and public record.
>> 
>> 
>>   NO WAY !   He  could've been speaking theoretically !!
>>		More people do this than you think.
>> 

>I fuckin' quit

>I had forgotten about kind buds for so long...

>Even that thrashes my lungs, so I'm gonna let it ride straight-edge for 
>a while.


>Just a reminder.... when you read this posting you create a permanent 
>public record of a sub-participant.

This thread is a manifestation of what my friends and I have puzzeled about for
quite some time.  There are figures around showing that only a VERY SMALL
portion of the people who read alt.drugs actually post.  Reasons for this range
from fear of being "found out" by University High-ups or by the Police to
simply not having anything to say.  Does anyone have the figures?

The fact is, you should post whatever you think is important regardless of fear
of getting caught.  Knowledge is the only weapon that the Feds have not taken
from us, and we must allow the truth to spread unchecked.

So go ahead, voice your opinions, stories, etc.  Or use the anonymous poster if
you are really paranoid.

If you really think that the anonymous poster is run by a Fed, mail your post
to me at mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu  and then have your head checked.

Get up!  Stand up!  Post!


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: drug dog
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:23:37 +1030
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3)  Get word to ALF and the media that the WoDzis are using "slave dogs"
    at the school and deliberately exposing them to (gasp!!) *DRUGS*!
    Arrange a welcoming committee or a farewell party.
    Develop some ways, means and contacts for doing this BEFORE they stomp
    into your life.

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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: drug dog
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:14:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.150215.15601@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> wayne@mathematik.uni-Bremen.de (Wayne Tvedt) writes:
>Diva (Diva@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca) wrote:
>>Well the drug dog won't catch you with LSD...its about the only drug that is
>>almost totally undetectable.
>
>  But be careful -- the dogs are trained to sniff out not the acid itself,
>but the strychnine.   [...]

Sigh.  Please, don't start another LSD/Strychnine thread.



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From: djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg)
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:38:21 GMT

In article <9301041952.AA15384@TIS.COM> mjr@TIS.COM writes:
>	One thing that's interesting to note is that you used to (back
>in the 13th century) be able to grow tomatoes in Paris, France, in
>November. It was a lot warmer back then. Then there was this "mini ice

Noone grew tomatoes in Europe in the 13th century.  They were thought
poisonous.  Europeans didn't start eating tomatoes to any great extent
until the late 18th century.
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:27:12 CST
From: <U37460@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: CBS 48 Hours - Broadcast time

The shows airs Wednesday January 6th, at 10pm Eastern, 9pm Central.
I have no idea about Mountain or West Coast time, sorry.
Ethan Haslett
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From:  ()
Subject: You idiots (Was Bong water etc)
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:06:50 GMT

Bong water reeks, and will only attract attention. Always change your water
on a regular basis. I had two friends in college who would add a bit of
water on occasion, only because they never changed it and some evaporated.
We're talking syrup. Gross to smoke through, and a real ticking bomb. Spill
it and you're fucked for days. Keep it clean and presto... wipe up, smell
is gone by dinner time.

Seeds won't get you stoned, butthead. THC is found in the resing glands,
which are found only in buds and leaves. Very little in leaves. None in the
stems... absolutely none in the seeds. Seeds also taste bad and can ruin a
good j. But hey, if you really like smoking seeds, I'll send you all of my
old or lame ones. But you have to promise to smoke them all in one day, ok?
Live match heads are neat, too.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay)
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:27:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.225111.22239@NOC.Vitalink.COM> rbuchanan@vitalink.com (Rick Buchanan) writes:
> 
> Last piece of advice -- Don't do extreme amounts of nitrous without
> having a friendly woman around.   (Unless of course you ARE a friendly
> woman... in which case... Hi there!)


Which reminds me of a nitrous question I've been meaning to ask for
a while now, but never remember:

I've never known a man who didn't get massively horny from taking
nitrous.  I've also never known a woman who did (which, alas, includes
myself.)

Why is that?


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From: st1g9@rosie.uh.edu (Lee Preimesberger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Morning Glory - Again
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:21 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <5JAN199321425177@vax.sonoma.edu>, gallaghe@vax.sonoma.edu (Mycal) writes...
#In article <1993Jan6.020236.5903@fuug.fi>, an3886@anon.penet.fi (Toker) writes...
#>I have inquired and found out that 1kg of MG seeds would cost about 400-700 IS 
#>(Israeli Shekels, or around $150-300), varying depending on species and so on.
#>I would like to know if this sounds like a good deal (ill settle for ok deal).
#>
#Why bother the redwood city seed company sells heavenly blue's for $45 a pound.
#they are at p.o. Box 361 Redwood City CA 94064 U.S.A

	For our non-metric viewers, that is $100 a kilo - plus an outragous
price for shipping and a big cut for Israeli customs.  Shipping across borders
is seldom cheap.

	Just my 2 shekels (shekelen?  shekeli?...ahh - forget it! :-) )

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