From: f43703a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp (SUPRATIC GUPTA)
Subject: Re: RJB
Organization: Nagoya University Computation Center, Nagoya, Japan.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:34:19 GMT

In article <llp0vrINNb06@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> naga@sparcbiz2.Eng.Sun.COM (NAGA) writes:

 |
 |
 |    With a lot of talk on the net as to how Kashmir is going to be
 | "liberated" soon, let's pause for a moment and take a look at the reality:
 |
 |	  1) Anyone that have  aspirations with regard to "liberating" Kashmir,
 |	     might have to face full brunt of a  nuclear war in the region. Anybody,
 |	     that thinks India is going to let go of Kashmir after a conventional war,
 |	     must be living in a "fool's paradise".                                        
 |
 |	  2) The development of indigenous advanced missile technology in India, would only
 |	     make delivering the above weapons anywhere in south Asia much easier.
 |
 |	  3) With a BJP run GOI (it is just a matter of time before they take power),
 |	     swift and appropriate decisive response would be the order of the day to such aspirations,
 |	     as supposed to spineless and gutless indecisive reactions from the current GOI.
 |	     Moreover, BJP openly favors manufacturing nuclear weapons and would model the nation's
 |	     security similar to Israel. 
 |
 | 
 |  The best chance that anyone had of "liberating" Kashmir was in the sixties and seventies. We all
 | know how it turned out when it was tried at that time. It is the recognition of these facts that
 | have made US to consider labelling Pakistan as a "terrorist" state to de-escalate the crisis in
 | Kashmir.
 |
 | Also, continuing ethnic strife in India due to the cohort meddling from outside forces in the internal
 | affairs of India, might also lead to the eventual use of nuclear weapons on them.               
 |
 | Under these circumstances, the "status quo" is probably the best solution with regard to Kashmir. 
 | It is in the best interests of both, India and Pakistan, to maintain just that.
 |	      


I agree to all these feeling writen by you. One more thing is very clear.
Congress apeasing Muslim population for vote is not going to pay long .
enough.  

Maintaining status quo is a temporary solution, cannot be a lasting one.


I personally feel that boths sides have done and are doing grave mistakes.
On one side Muslim population is not joining the main stream and trying to
develop it self. Irrespective of the religion they should join good schools
for education. I remember a article that some news paper organisation had
done a survey on muslim populationn and foumd that muslim population lad
the highest level of school drop outs. This is not a purely economical
point of view.

I still remember that I had only very few muslim friends (according to
my knowledge only 1 in my batch 1990 IITM) and was from a well to do
family and is in US now. It does not represent the 12% population
of Islam. This is not a minority problem or economic problem. This is
a clear problem in mentality of muslim population in India. Atleast I
can say that IIT entrance does not have any Bias. Niether can it be 
true that economical situation in India between Hidus and Muslims are 330:1.


Some muslims may argue that, how can we send our children to Hindu
oriented schools. I can strongly say that IIT is not such a institution.
There will be many arround to back me on this point. 

How can muslims expect that Hindu people will leave there traditions.

This is all against Muslims. 

Now I want to say on mistakes of Hindu society. It still embaraces
caste system. Till the reservation was implemented, all jobs were
granted seeing the family names. Here I am not talking of Highly 
technical jobs. Here I am talking of the general jobs. 
Again speaking, If This caste system is not broken, NO BJP can stop
problems between comuunities by use of Neuclear weapon. YYou can use
neuclear weapon against Pakistan, the real enemy of India, but how can 
you usse it against your own people? Say like Assam?  I am from Assam.
I am a bengali. My family was fucked out of bangladesh. We moved into
Assam, because of economic reason. And what India gave us? A second
class citizenship? Why?

IS IT THE MISTAKE OF ASSMESE POPULATION? No it is again the problem with 
congress? They tried to appease minority vote bank. Their old divide 
and rule concept? 

CONGRESS/INDIA NEVER BOTHERED ABOUT THE DEVELOPEMENT OF ASSAM. Really
speaking Assam has the capacity of becoming a OIL RICH/ TEA RICH country
if left alone. You can ask how about technology? There is a saying that
DHAN CHITALE KAKER ABHAB HAY NA. There no scarcity of crows if you spread
rice.

So don't say that INDIA is laways the good fellow arround.

Take for example the case of Srilankan Tamils. They were in problem
in their country. So They were becoming a refugee problem in India.
We trained them. CAN YOU DISAGREE THAT INDIA TRAINED LTTE? You can defend
Training MUKTI BAHINI saying that Pakis were buthering Bengalis. So we
liberated them. But what did we gave them? First train them, then send
Indian army to stop them, (INdian army did rape women there, I can bet on it.
Because they did the same in ASSAM. there are proof of it. But all Indians
are not to be blamed for it.)  

So EK HATE TALI BAJE NA. You cannot clap with one hand.

So like Pakistan and muslim society has to come to reality and accept us,
and Hindu society and walk along with it, simillarly we have also to
understand our mistakes and come to reality. 

NORTH INDIA CANNOT RULE INDIA ANY MORE.

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With regards
 
SUPRATIC GUPTA