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From: ojvind@chagall.cns.caltech.edu (Ojvind Bernander)
Newsgroups: misc.writing
Subject: Re: Rules for writers
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:56:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: gap.1k48ifINNe6e
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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In article <ap76438@pro-harold.cts.com> chrisc@pro-harold.cts.com (Chris Carstens) writes:
>1)  Kill your darlings.  If is sounds wonderful, like it could simply not
>be said any better, it's probably something you read.  Sometimes you work
>an entire paragraph around one ever so clever sentence -- kill em, and
>write straight prose.

While agreeing with some of your comments I don't agree with this one.
Of course you should watch out for creating overly flowery, overwrought
prose, but if you come up with something clever, use it.  However, be
open to criticism if someone else doesn't find it clever.  B.t.w.,
I believe the expression "kill your darlings" was used by Faulkner
as an approach to writing _movie_ scripts, since Hollywood rarely
lets you get away with a lot of things (sad endings, controversial
issues, etc.).

>5)  Trying to write non-fiction without a complete written outline is like
>trying to drive from Los Angeles to Dubuque without a map.  It can be done,
>but it's not sensible.

As long as you know your destination, you can follow the road signs.
It is highly individual how well you mesh with outlines.  But you
should indeed know the ending -- or _an_ ending:  you may change your
mind half-way through the story.

-- Ojvind
From: jjas@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu (Jason Stephenson)
Newsgroups: misc.writing
Subject: Re: Writing Erotica
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:49:08 GMT
	<1993Jan26.153706.12066@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Organization: Boston University Information Technology Boston, MA USA
In-reply-to: mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu's message of 26 Jan 93 15:37:06 GMT


	Wow....I looked at the Madonna book.....(no I did not buy it). I got to
the part with the dog and closed it. No I do not think it should be burned, but
I am not entirely sure that it should be in the "non erotica" book stores
either. Can we clarify something here.....erotica and romance...what's the
difference? When I think of Romance, I think of feelings and love. When I think
of Erotica I think of nudity and sex. Is this about right?

                                               
                                                      Treky and Tabatha
							    N8VFZ

The real problem, from the artist's and the public's point of view, is
separating pornography from erotica.  What contains enough "artistic
merit" to be called erotica and what is pronography.
	Since you asked, when I think of romance I think of crappy,
formula novels written for frustrated, middle-aged housewives.
	Is Madonna's book erotica?  I haven't seen it and don't care.
I don't feel compelled to drool brainlessly over mass-media idols.

jjas@acs.bu.edu
99% of everything ever written is trash, but that other 1%...!
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From: staffan@ca.serum.kodak.com (Kenneth Staffan (x37507))
Newsgroups: misc.writing,misc.kids,rec.arts.books
Subject: Help! - Comforting the bitee..  P.S.
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:14:21 GMT
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company

In connection with my questions about our son being bitten - I should also
have added that the problem is not just between our son and the biter - he
bites other kids as well.

Ken
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Newsgroups: misc.writing
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: Indexing (was: *** Why is rewriting bad?)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:43:59 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <C1HDzD.6G2@unx.sas.com> sasjcs@canoe.unx.sas.com (Joan Stout) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan26.181754.9854@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca>, marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) writes:
>
>|> >I can't help thinking that indexing by hand should be banned under the
>|> >Geneva Convention. :-)
>|>
>|> No argument here. I think it also contravenes the constitutional ban on
>|> cruel and unusual punishment if you happen to be in the US. :-)
>
>Hey! Some of us *like* indexing and some of us do it for a living.
>(In my case, only *part* of my living.) Some of us even like it 
>enough to do most of it by hand. I have indexing software to take
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>care of the real drudgery, but a professional indexer knows that
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^        
>computers can't index.

I think we could be getting confused here.

When I talk about indexing by hand, I'm referring to going through the
proofs and writing down entries somewhere on a list. If someone needs
to insert a page, all the entries get stuffed up.

When using a computer, I am not talking about making one of those
horrible keyword indexes where someone has entered a list of words and
the index consists of every incidence of those words.

I use a computer {xe "Index:with computer"} to index by entering tags
{xe "Tags:entering index tags"} {xe "Index:tags"} throughout the text.
The tags contain the information that I want shown in the index entry.
{xe "Index:compiling list"} The computer then compiles the index for
me.
-- 
    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz           Work: 64 4 233 8186
 Technical Writer | thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz     Home: 64 4 499 3832
   Wellington, NZ |   A man without a woman is like tea without sugar.
Newsgroups: misc.writing
From: thiessen@emr1.emr.ca (Tracy Thiessen)
Subject: Re: *** Why is rewriting bad ?/It ain't
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:23:10 GMT

In article <C17HDo.CDC@unx.sas.com> saslpo@stevens.unx.sas.com (Leonard Paul Olszewski) writes:
>
>In article <ELIZ.93Jan20215452@august.ai.mit.edu>, eliz@ai.mit.edu (Elizabeth Willey) writes:
>|>
>
>[stuff deleted
>
>Indeed, this is true; unfortunately, this is hardly possible. Anyone who
>writes technical material in one draft produces very bad technical
>material. I usually work with three drafts. In the first, I try to get
>everything in, don't worry too much about the words, and understand the
>overall structure is open for negotiation. In the second, I try to get
>all of the factual errors corrected, add any omissions, fix the
>structure, and start to polish. In the third, I eliminate any remaining
>factual errors (with any luck), and I lay the final concise, clear,
>consistent wording into place. Then the editors get it and straighten it 
>out 8-).
>
Or in my case, the engineers get it and rip its guts out. I have
to shunt my stuff through at least three levels of technical
heirarchy, before the policy people take their shots.  Very tricky.
I like to write the first draft, and read (and rewrite)    
subsequent drafts at different times of the day. If I liked it
a 9, and still like it at five, it's a go.

Tracy 
 

Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
From: "Steven R Winkelman-1" <wink0030%student.tc.umn.edu@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Re: Today in History
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: daemon@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: ?
Resent-From: "Rich Winkel" <MATHRICH@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:24:28 GMT

TODAY IN HISTORY ------ JANUARY 25

Shays's Rebellion breaks out against imprisonment of Massachusetts farmers
	for debts -- 1787

United Mine Workers formed -- 1890
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: Today's Quote...
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:43:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Organization: ?
Originator: daemon@pencil.cs.missouri.edu


"...the death sentence is abominable, as abominable as the crime
itself. Our state must be based on love, not hatred and victimization.
Our penal code must be based on rehabilitation rather than
annihilation." --Chenjerai Hove, poet, Zimbabwe

[From "When the State Kills...The death penalty: a human rights issue"
by Amnesty International]


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From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: RESOURCE: Mainstream Newspapers Label-Ready Addresses (autopost)
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: PACH
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:30:04 GMT


The Arizona Republic
P.O. Box 1950
Phoenix, AZ 85001

Arkansas Democrat
Little Rock Newspapers, Inc.
Capitol Ave. and Scott St.
P.O. Box 2221
Little Rock, AR 72203

Arkansas Gazette Co.
Gazette Bldg.
P.O. Box 1821
Little Rock, AR 72203

Birmingham News
P.O. Box 2553
Birmingham, AL 35202

The Boston Globe
135 Morrissey Blvd.
Boston, MA 02107

Boston Herald
One Herald Square
Boston, MA 02106-2096

Chicago Tribune
435 North Michigan Ave.
Chicago, IL 60611

Chicago Sun-Times
401 North Wabash Ave.
Chicago, IL 60611

Christian Science Monitor
203 N. Wabash, Suite 2320
Chicago, IL 60601

Detroit Free Press
Kight-Ridder, Inc.
321 W. Lafayette Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48231

The Detroit News
615 Lafayette Blvd.
Detroit, MI 48231

El Nuevo Dia
P.O. Box S 297
San Juan, PR 00902

El Vocero De Puerto Rico
P.O. Box 3831
San Juan, PR 00904

Los Angeles Herald-Examiner
111 S. Broadway, 
Los Angeles, CA 90015

Los Angeles Independent
National Media Newspapers
1660 Beverly Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90026

Los Angeles Times
Times Mirror Square
Los Angeles, CA 90053

The Miami Herald
One Herald Plaza
Miami, FL 33101

The Mobile Press-Register
P.O. Box 2488
Mobile, AL 36630

New York Daily News
New York News, Inc.
220 E. 42nd St.
New York, NY 10017

The New York Times
229 W. 43rd St.
New York, NY 10036

Pittsburgh Press
Box 566
34 Blvd. of the Allies
Pittsburgh, PA 15230

Post
4747 Southwest Frwy.
Houston, TX 77210-4747

Star and Tribune
425 Portland Ave.
Minneapolis, MN 55488

The Washington Post
1150 15th St. N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20071

Time, Inc.
Time and Life Bldg.
New York, NV 10020

Newsweek, Inc.
Att:Linda Marcus
444 Madison Ave.
New York, NY 10022

Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
From: susan_soric@specevent.uchicago.edu (Susan Soric)
Subject: Wanted: source for UN/StateDept Docs by e-mail
Followup-To: misc.activism.progressive
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:59:21 GMT

Does anyone out there know how I
could obtain U.N. and U.S. State Department
reports by e-mail?  If not, any snailmail
addresses would be helpful.

I'm particularly interested in
reports on the Balkans.

Thanks.

Susan

==========================================================================================
Susan Soric
University of Chicago
susan_soric@upubs.uchicago.edu

Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
From: "Steven R Winkelman-1" <wink0030@student.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Today in History
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: ?
Resent-From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:20:08 GMT

TODAY IN HISTORY -- JANUARY 21

Margaret Brent becomes the first American woman to claim the right to vote
		1647

Roger Baldwin, founder of ACLU, born -- 1884


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From: busta@vicki.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive,alt.activism
Subject: Req: Clintons' inaugural speech
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:41:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu


   Does anyone out there have an online copy of Clintons' Inaugural speech?

 I thought I saw it in one of these groups recently but I can't seem to
  locate it now. If you have one, please send it to me via email, or post
  it if you can't get through....

Thanks

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

Paul R. Busta	Busta@vicki.enet.dec.com                       Salem,N.H.  
		--or-- ...!decwrl!vicki.enet.dec.com!busta    603-894-3962
		--or-- busta%vicki.enet@decwrl.dec.com

         "One only sees what one observes, and one observes only 
              those things which are already in the mind."
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: Today's Quote...
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: daemon@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: ?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:35:22 GMT


"I remember the one who was executed, Lim Seng, and I hoped by his
death there [would] be less narcotic addiction in our country, but
today we have more. There is now a Narcotic Command, the whole Command
to deal with narcotics addiction. So therefore the life of that man
that was snuffed out to discourage drug addiction has been lost in
vain..." --Teodulo Natividad, author of the 1972 Dangerous Drugs Act,
Philippines

[From "When the State Kills...The death penalty: a human rights issue"
by Amnesty International]


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From: ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca (Nigel Allen)
Subject: RESOURCE: Free Publicity for Your Newsletter or Magazine
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:59:46 GMT

Free Publicity for Your Newsletter or Magazine

If you haven't already done so, you should write to each of the
following directories and ask them to add a listing for your
newsletter and/or magazine. All of them provide free listings,
and most can be consulted at major public or academic libraries.

 Editor
 Gale Directory of Publications and Broadcast Media
 Gale Research Inc.
 835 Penobscot Building
 Detroit, Michigan 48226-4094  U.S.A.
 telephone (313) 961-2242
 fax (313) 961-6815

 Editor
 Newsletters in Print
 Gale Research Inc.
 835 Penobscot Building
 Detroit, Michigan 48226-4094  U.S.A.
 telephone (313) 961-2242
 fax (313) 961-6241

 Editor
 Standard Periodical Directory
 Oxbridge Communications, Inc.
 150 Fifth Avenue
 New York, N.Y. 10011  U.S.A.
 telephone (212) 741-0231

 Editor
 The Serials Directory
 Ebsco Publishing
 P.O. Box 1943
 Birmingham, AL 35201  U.S.A.

 Editor
 Ulrich's Directory of Periodicals
 Serials Bibliography Department
 R.R. Bowker Co.
 121 Chanlon Road
 New Providence, N.J. 07974 U.S.A.
 telephone (908) 665-2870
 fax (908) 665-6688

If you would like to receive an International Standard Serial Number
(ISSN) for each of your periodicals, contact:

 National Serials Data Program
 Library of Congress
 Washington, D.C. 20540 U.S.A.
 telephone (202) 707-6452
 (Publishers outside the U.S. should contact their country's national
library for more information about ISSN.)
 In Canada, write to:
  ISDS Canada
  National Library of Canada
  395 Wellington Street
  Ottawa, Ontario
  K1A 0N4

If you would like information on copyrighting your periodicals,
write to:

 Copyright Office
 Library of Congress
 Washington, D.C. 20559  U.S.A.
 telephone (202) 479-0700 for information
 telephone (202) 707-9100 to order forms and booklets
 (Publishers outside the U.S. should also contact their country's
copyright office for information on local copyright laws.)
 In Canada, contact your local office of the federal Department
 of Consumer and Corporate Affairs, or write to:
  Copyright Office
  Consumer and Corporate Affairs Canada
  Ottawa, Ontario
  K1A 0C9
 * list compiled by Nigel Allen
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From: aforum@moose.uvm.edu (autonome forum)
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: Grand Jury resister needs support
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:35:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Originator: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu

posted by: autonome forum
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February 13: Day of Solidarity and Action for Jonathan Paul

source:   United Anarchist Front
          PO Box 1115
          Whittier, CA  90609
          
     tel: 310.947.1991 (Chris)
          310.694.5485 (Michael)
     fax: 310.696.8119 (attn. United Anarchist Front)

To increase the pressure on nation-wide grand jury
interrorgations of alleged members of the Animal Liberation Front
(ALF), an international campaign has been proposed to show
disgust and anger at the United States' form of criminalizing
progressive movements (ie, students' movements, the civil rights
movement, anti-war movements, native struggles, etc.).

On the local level, the possibilities are countless:
demonstrations at federal buildings, street theatre, leafletting,
letter-writing, city art, etc.

Also, writing to Jonathan Paul directly is very important.
Jonathan was jailed on Election Day in November for refusing to
testify before a federal grand jury. Letters of support would be
very welcome.

     Jonathan Paul
     Spokane County Jail
     1100 W. Mallon
     Spokane, WA  99260

Also, please send reports of local actions to "Love and Rage" and
other anarchist/progressive publications. Communication, as we
all know, if fundamental!

     Love and Rage
     Box 3, Prince St. Stn.
     NY, NY  10012

Solidarity Is Strength!!
Free All Political Prisoners!!
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Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: Today's Quote...
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: daemon@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: ?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:35:16 GMT


--"[P]olitical correctness" does not exist, and has never existed, as
a body of political ideas. It is not an ideology, like socialism,
liberalism, 0 or nationalism, nor is it an organized (or disorganized)
social movement. Nor is it a world view, a moral philosophy, a
partisan organization, an intellectual trend, or even an academic
faction. As a description of political ideas, "political correctness"
expresses, literally, nothing. It is an empty vessel of a signifer
into which meaning is poured on a purely expedient and ad hominem
basis."  "Enforcers of today's brittle status quo now employ
"politically correct" to describe any political position which
disputes the soundness of economic life, the validity of the assertion
that racism and sexism no longer influence our society, the
infallibility of corporate power, the nobility of right-wing culture,
the value of militarism, or the wisdom of any given policy of the
Reagan-Bush tenure."

                                --Jamin Raskin, from "The Fallacies of  
                                'Political  Correctness'" in January Z.


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From: buckmr%rpi.edu@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: URGENT: Call to end anti-gay military ban!
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:22:46 GMT
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Resent-From: "Rich Winkel" <MATHRICH@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>


Word has leaked out that the Far Right has mobilised support for a massive
phone/fax campaign to convince Clinton to change his mind. ABC reported that
yesterday there were 624 calls FOR the ban and only 28 AGAINST.

Let these people know how you feel about the ban against gays and
lesbians in the military.

Gen. Colin L. Powell
Chairman
Joint Chiefs of Staff
The Pentagon
Washington, DC  20301-5000

703 545 6700 [Pentagon switchboard]
703-697-5737 [Pentagon Public Affairs Bureau]
vox: 703-697-9121.   [not busy very often]
fax: 703-697-8758.

Bill Clinton
President of the United States
1600 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, DC 20500
(202) 456-1414 [switchboard]
(202) 456-1111
(202) 456-2883 [fax]
Alternate fax number:              202/456-2461

House Armed Services Committee
2120 RHOB
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-4151

Senate Armed Services Committee
SR-228
Washington, DC  20510
(202) 224-3871

Les Aspin
Defense Secretary
1000 Defense, The Pentagon
Washington, DC  20301-1000
703/695-5261


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From: Greenpeace via Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive,alt.activism,talk.environment
Subject: NEWS: Call for Tanker Exclusion Zones and Halt to Drilling Licenses
Followup-To: talk.environment
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:41:28 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
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Keywords: environment oil press

[Greenpeace Press Release from Greenbase -- Redistribute Freely]

GREENPEACE CALLS FOR EXCLUSION ZONES FOR TANKERS AND HALT TO
LICENCES FOR OIL DRILLING PENDING INQUIRY INTO TANKER DISASTER

SCOTLAND -- January 11, 1993 (GP) -- Greenpeace today called for
emergency Government action to bar the oil industry from routing
tankers through coastal narrows and exploring for oil off
environmentally sensitive coasts.
  
As a first step, Greenpeace identified as tanker-free exclusion
zones the Minches, between the Western Isles and the Scottish
mainland, and the stretch between Scotland, the Orkney and
Shetland Islands, where the Braer tanker was wrecked last week.
In addition to tanker traffic, Greenpeace calls for a halt
to the granting of new licences for oil exploration -- the
Government is currently considering 435 sites, many of them
close to important wildlife areas.
  
"The Government must not wait for the outcome of the Public
Inquiry, which could take years -- emergency measures must be
taken now to halt oil exploration and ban tankers from coastal
narrows" said Paul Horsman, Greenpeace Oil Campaigner.
  
Irish Sea areas rich in seals, dolphins, birds and other marine
life, including Bardsey and Skomer Islands, and Lundy Island
in the Bristol Channel, are all threatened with coastal oil
development.  Other sites include the Firth of Forth, the Wash
and North Norfolk Coast, Dorset Heritage Coastline, and
Flamborough Head, which has important bird colonies.
  
As well as the disturbance of drilling, oil development in any
of these sites will increase tanker traffic around the British
coastline.
  
This afternoon in the House of Commons the Transport Minister
John MacGregor, announced that there will be a Public Inquiry
into the Braer oil tanker disaster.
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