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From: CXMP000 <CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: Stryfe calls Scott and Jean "father" and "mother"!
Organization: McGill University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:24:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.035529.1977@njitgw.njit.edu>
bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <19um1aINNlh0@maico.ksu.ksu.edu> lazarus@maico.ksu.ksu.edu
(Bart -Laz- Smith) writes:
>>
>>In article <23SEP92.19005901.0089@VM1.MCGILL.CA>,
CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP) writes:
>>>Quite a headline, huh?  Nothing we didn't suspect though.  Fact is,
>>>I've got X-Force #16 (printed today) right in front of me so you
>>>better believe me when I say ...
>>>
>>>*SPOILERS*
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>>>OK, Sam wants to talk as does Alex and talk they *do*, but Feral (who
>>>they *obviously* have to get rid of) says "They're gonna attack ...
>>>They're gonna attack!" and loses it (really stable is Feral ... NOT!).
>>>A fight breaks out right away.
>>
>>Well, they started it OUT right...
>>
>>>The characterisation at this point is quite good.  Sam says "We're not
>>>y'all's 'New Mutants' anymore!" which I suppose is what Fabian is giving
>>>as Sam's motive for not simply giving in to X-Force et al.  Shatterstar
>>>is *polite* to Wolverine which is a good way to underline his respect
>>>for "warriers" like himself and Wolverine.
>>
>>Shatterstar and Wolverine met in Wolverine #54 or 55 (it was a one-shot,
>>filler-type issue, and Shatterstar actually had a personality!).
>>
>>>Siryn is reluctant to fight Jamie but Jamie who was *not* the Jamie who
>>>was with her during the Fallen Angels series is no where near as reluctant.
>>>Similarly, Rictor is surprised by Wolfsbane's ferocity.  Boom Boom is
>>>easily outclassed by Rogue as is Warpath by Strong Guy.
>>
>>The fight went to the more experienced mutants, looks like.
>>
>>>Meanwhile, Sunspot seems rather defeatist.
>>
>>Remember way back in the earlty nineties of the New Mutants series?  With
>>Cable vs. Wolverine?  'Berto had that same attitude then also... something
>>about seeing his heroes fighting each other.  Same situation, basically...
>>
>>>Wolverine kills Shatterstar.
>>
>>It's hard to say it, but it's proably just as well... they would have never
>>developed his personality anyway.  :(
>
>First of all, Shatterstar isn't dead.  No way, no how.                 ve

Well, he *might* be but I didn't mean to imply that he definitely was;
you see, I was just describing what I saw, namely Wolverine impaling him
with his claws (i.e. "killing" him).  Anyway, I think Marvel wants us to
think he might be dead even though he probably isn't.

Second, I belie
>that they will develop his personality (at least, to some degree).  Why
>do I say this?  Look who's writing X-Force:  Fabian Nicieza (how in the
>hell do you pronounce that last name?).  Now, dig up that issue of
>Wolverine, and look up the writer.  That's right, Fabian Nicieza.  Odds
>are, Fabian will develop his personality to some degree.
>
>Now, if we can only get him to get rid of Feral.  Quickly.
>
>>>So what would you do if you were Sam?  If you said "run like hell"
>>>you're right!
>>>
>>>Cut to X-Men aboard a (not "the", Fabian) Blackbird.

No, I'm not nitpicking.  Just counting Blackbirds. :)

We have an
>>>interesting group here: Archangel, Quicksilver, Storm, Iceman, Collosus
>>>and the Beast.  After leaving the Blackbird, Quicksilver does a *quick*
>>>reconnaissance.  Not wanting to fault PAD but Fabian handles QS nicely
>>>here.
>>>
>>>Briefly, the X-Men defeat the Horsemen *easily*.  This was as
>>>Mr. Sinister expected for he left a message "...Apocalypse--
>>>*unbeknownst* even to him--is still the cause of this madness..."
>>>
>>>Cut to Bishop and Sinister.  Nice Terminator II rip off in this scene,
>>>typical X-Force.  New dangling plotline: Sinister and Val Cooper
>>>recognize each other.
>>
>>They met previously in a PAD-scribed issue of X-Factor, #72 or 73...
>
>Wasn't Mr. Sinister Val's ex-husband, Edmund Atkinson, as well?  I
>don't think Val knows this, but Mr. S does.  And I'm not sure if
>Val recognized Mr. S.

Opps!  Sinister says something about "the perpetrator of this crime"
and Val says "Who --?"  I guess she meant "Who do you mean?" not "Who
are you?"  I guess this is the danger of writing synopses, some detail
gets lost in interpretation.  Anyway, someone emailed me to tell me
that what Val actually recognizes is someone on a photograph and with
the correct interpretation of Val's question, the picture was of "the
perpetrator of this crime".  Apocalypse?  So does Val recognize
Apocalypse?  It's still a dangling plotline regardless of how you
interpret it.

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The sheet of paper that Sinister showed to Val included only one small
line of typed text.  There was no picture.

Mike
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