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From: metlay@PHYAST.PITT.EDU (metlay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: rate this synth
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:24:09 GMT



Ahem.

Dan you wet behind the ears pup, get back on yer newspapers before
I slap yer little chops but good. Leave trivia to the truly trivial,
like Moi!

He is not referring to a T8, which would be beyond a steal at $200.
He is referring to a Split-Eight, an entirely different beastie
that should probably go for about $200 in today's market. 

History lesson for the youngsters out there: Sequential had three
major building phases in its history. The first was the gradual 
ramp-up into very sophisticated gear, beginning with the original
Model 600 and 700, then the Prophet 5 and Pro-One, followed by
the introduction of MIDI with the Prophet 600 and the touch-sensitive
Prophet T8. Then there was the second phase, their attempt to do
what only Ensoniq has been successful with so far, namely build 
inexpensive but powerful synths: the SixTrak and Drumtraks were
the crossover machines (you can tell, because they were the last
ones to have wooden end panels), followed by the MAX, the Multi-Trak,
the TOM, and finally, right before they went under, the Split-Eight.
I don't know if the hiatus after that was due to reorganizing or
bankruptcy, but when they came back for the third phase, they were 
doing it right again: the Prophet 2000, then the Prophet VS, the
VS Rack and 2002, and finally the Studio 440 and Prophet 3000. The
440 killed the company, which was a shame because the 2000 was a 
classic and the VS was a miracle in a box even by 1992's standards.

The Split-Eight was the last gasp of stage two of Sequential's
life; it was advertised only briefly before the company went
belly-up. It was put out in response to a demand for an eight-voice
analog synth rather than a six-voice, and was in large part a
repackaged, re-silkscreened MultiTrak (a six-voice multitimbral board).
I know of very few units actually sold, and have never seen one.
They usually sell relatively cheaply, and I have heard neither good
nor bad about them. If they were anything like the MultiTrak in sound
architecture, though, they'd sound pretty damn good, but I wouldn't
bet on any world-shaking timbres with eight-voice polyphony. You'll
probably have to layer four on four to get anything really good going.

Now if you'll excuse me, it's time for my Geritol. And my arthritis
medicine. And the ointment for my gout...groan....

|->

--
dr. michael metlay          \ Metlay's Law: "A newly-announced, spiffy new
atomic city                  \ piece of gear may look *great* on paper
                              \ -- but you can't play paper."
metlay@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu \
From: d90-pfn@mother.ludd.luth.se (Peter Fredriksson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: JV80: More opinions wanted!
Summary: JV80, opinions wanted
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:27:57 GMT
Organization: Lule} H|gskolas datorf|rening ( Ludd )


Hi,

  Tried a couple of month ago to get some opinions on the JV-80 but I
didn't get much response (thanks to you who did reply! ). Anyway,
after working all summer to get the money, and after spending a couple of
hours in the local music store, I have decided that I will probably go for a
JV-80 + the PopROM expansion board. Before I do that I would like to hear
from you. Am I doing the right thing? Have I missed something important?
Should I spend my money on something else? Give me your opinions.


Many thanks in advance!!

/Peter

--
Peter Fredriksson
d90-pfn@ludd.luth.se
University of Lulea, Sweden
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: count0@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Karl Nordenstam)
Subject: FOR SALE: Peavey KB-60 Keyboard Amp
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:30:54 GMT


I have a KB-60 for sale for $175 negotiable.  Let me know if you are
interested...

Thanks!

Markus
919-828-2031
From: Darla@cup.portal.com (Kuby - Downs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Wanted: Advice on notation software for pc
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:04:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Chris,

There are a number of notation program for the PC ranging in price
from $75-700.

On the high end is Finale and a similar Passport product.

The price range of $250-300 sports Music Printer Plus (not for Windows)
Cakewalk for Windows is not a primary notation program in that it will not
print out notation, however it is a full featured sequencer that will allow you
to either enter notes via the mouse via real musical notation or view what
you played in notation.

Price range of $100-150 for notation includes Ballade by Dynaware, (be
sure to look at the newest version for it now supports all kinds of synths.
Also Quick Score Deluxe by Dr. T's. This is a full featured sequencer
that allows you to enter music via standard musical notation and imports
and exports standard midi files.

Hope this helps a bit..

                                                                 Darla
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Anyone use(d) Music Quest MIDI card?
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:34:47 GMT

|> bollard@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Lee M. Bollard) writes:
|> 
|> >Music Quest midi cards are well-known to be the very BEST midi
|> >cards available.  It's the only midi card worth buying.  Totally
|> >configurable, well supported, great features.
|> 
|> >There are several models.  The "PC-Midi Card" is the low-end model.
|> >MQX-16 offers 16 channels, MQX-16S adds SMPTE, MQX-32M is a dual
|> >port 32 channel w/SMPTE card.

Not any more! They only sell the low end and high end models now, the
PCMIDI Card, and the 32M. However, they did reduce the price on the
32M, so I guess that's the silver lining...

jds

***************************************************************************
                               * Health and knowledge and wealth and power,
Jeff Smith                     * Passion and poems and sex
smith@fl08-g.comm.mot.com      * I wear a smile like a leather glove,
                               * I won't shut my mouth for less.
                                                - shriekback
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From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:53:35 GMT
Subject: Re: "Workstation" wanted (M1, VFX, etc)
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

In rec.music.synth, jpittas@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.pittas) writes:


>    A drummer/songwriter friend of mine is looking to upgrade from
>    his ESQ-1 to something more powerful.  If you have anything for
>    sale that might fit the bill, please let me know.  Thanks in
>    advance.

But, but... There IS nothing more powerful than an ESQ-1 !!!

		       Yupatupa Ta,
				    - Jim

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: Moog/SCI questions (Devo/gary numan)
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:10:16 GMT


I was wondering if any expert out there could give me some info
on what Moog synth (if it was used) on the devo song "Smart patrol/Mr.DNA"
is it a Micro Moog?  DId realistic/moog only make the micro moog model?
did they ever use ARPs? (gary numan, yes)  Any comments on the Moog
OPUS 3 synth?

gary numan's main synths were the poly moog and mini moog, correct? do
or are these synths very different from the above mentioned moogs?

questions


-- 
SdfComm/SysAdm - Stephen M. Jones        (214)436-4622
6o25@sdf.lonestar.org    ..seas.smu.edu!letni!sdf!6o25
From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: MOTU changing their customer support ways??
Date: 1 Sep 1992 17:04:53 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Sep1.115937.7253@ac.dal.ca> , arpraym@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Recently I responded to a flame of MOTU and their customer service. I too
>had an opinion that was less than complimentary.
>
>As a result of my post (flame), a MOTU technical support person got in
touch
>with me. His name is Neil Lischner. He politely said that a friend of his
>had read my post and forwarded it to him, and then he asked me if there
was
>anything that he could do to assist me. He also updated my personal
>information on their database.
>
>Assuming that this could be a trend, and not the work of a single helpful
>individual bucking an otherwise poor customer support program, my opinion
>of MOTU may quickly change. The only fault I saw was in customer support,
>(ONLY??). They produce pretty good software/hardware from my vantage
point.
>
>I told Neil I would respond to r.m.s. and let 'yous guys' know that at
least
>there is one person in customer support at MOTU who cares about you.

I'm so glad that they called you. I think more and more, software
developers, hardware developers and people who sell these goods are
paying closer attention to the kind of dialog that goes on here, as well
as commercial services such as Compuserve, America Online, etc., and
realizing that it is for their best interest to follow what goes on here. 

    *****************************************************
    ** Paco Ojeda-Gonzalez                             **
    **                                                 **
    ** Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu  **
    *****************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bmaraldo@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Commander Brett Maraldo)
Subject: Re: Rec.music.synth used pricelist
Keywords: used price pricelist synth
Organization: Unit 36 Research
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:07:10 GMT

In article <pricelist_714173734@sprite.Berkeley.EDU> shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
>Akai XR10 drum machine		300,425
>Alesis Microverb		80,85,100,100
>Anatek micro record sequencers	80
>E-Mu Proformance 1 piano module	325
>Korg Stage Echo			100
>Lexicon LXP-1 effects		370
>Lexicon MRC midi control	100
>Midiman Syncman III Midi-SMPTE	125
>Prophet 5 analog synth		500
>Roland M160 16 channel mixer	600
>Roland MKS-30 Planet-S midi module	350
>Roland Rhythm 55 drum machine	45
>Yamaha QY10 sequencer		275
>Yamaha TX16W sampler		825

	These are articles that I put up for sale on the net in the past.
The header of the used list says that 'all prices are in US funds'.  These
articles were posted for Canadian funds.  The average rate is $1US=$1.15CDN.
It would be nice if the prices were marked as such.  Nevertheless, this list
of used net prices is very helpful and I am thankful to Mr. Sheriff for
maintining it.


Brett Maraldo
Plexus Production




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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:37:21 EDT
From:         "James D. Johns" <jdjohns@CRDEC8.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      ARP String Ensemble
Comments: To: synth-l@american.edu

        The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:

>PS: I've just stumbled on the instrument list for Gary Wright's Dream Weaver.
>If the person who wanted this info is still out there, please email me.

I'm still out here, just satisfied with the responses.  Sounds
about right to what I could tell...

     Quantum Audio Concepts <quantum@mfci.UUCP>:

>Saw him in concert 1975??  "Bass" player had 2 mini-moogs. Strings were
>the ARP string ensemble. Fender Rhodes. Can't recall any of the other
>keyboards on stage.

      Charlie <chucksi@STC.COMM.MOT.COM>:

>I know one of'em - The Arp String Ensemble...the original synthesized analog
>strings...a real powerhouse in it's day....


The ARP String Ensemble sounds like the same instrument that was used on the
soundtrack to the television show "In Search Of".  Did the ARP have PWM?


                                      Dave

--

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dave Johns                          |    " Inspiration is a split second
jdjohns@crdec8.apgea.army.mil       |      revelation from another world. "

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bbs.forte@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Steve Salani)
Subject: Performer Version 4.0
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:36:14 GMT

 Has anyone upgraded to Performer 4.0?
 Is there a 4.1 yet?
 Is 4.x very buggy?
 Does MOTU provide any consoles for editing synthesizers remotely?
 (specifically I'd like to get a TG-77 editing console).

--
Steve Salani (bbs.forte@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: williams@ab.wvnet.edu (Tom Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Mail Order Prices
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:14:03 GMT
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

In article <17vrndINN37t@early-bird.think.com>, 
Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu (Paco Ojeda) writes:
> 
> 1. Musician's Friend 800-776-5173
> These guys are indeed friendly. They have a catalog with a rather large
> selection of keyboardists, guitar and bass players. Decent prices.
> 

          Could you tell me what page?  I've been looking for a bass
          player (my old one moved), and I can't find one in the
          catalog.  ;-)

          Actually, I've been wondering if those folks were any good. 

          Other postings have mentioned Chuck Levin's in a negative
          light.  This (lack of attention to customers) is news to me,
          as I have gotten very good service from them over the past
          15 years.  

          I *have* noticed a racist attitude out of one of their
          employees, but that doesn't doesn't appear to be the general
          timbre there.
-- 

                                                -Tom Williams
                                                 Alderson-Broaddus College
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga
From: d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Originator: d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<Z1V7PB8w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>
	<1992Sep1.052243.15525@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<1992Sep1.143739.15864@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:42:47 GMT

> thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:

[ Falcon video ]

   To be quite honest, this is lousy video. The lowest resolution PC that I
   use is 800x600x256, and normally I use 1024x768x256. Your specs are 
   underwhelming at best.

Not to mention there's still nothing that beats QuickDraw in
imaging model. (No, there isn't)

And it all has nothing to do with synths.

-- 
Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Sweden, Phone +46-8-107069
White, Literate, Employed, Higher-Educated, Male, Straight and Not Poor.
I must be a bad guy.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.audio
From: roy@engin.umich.edu (Roy William Feague)
Subject: FOR SALE: Roland D-20
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 10:24:58 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: D20 D-20 For Sale

Roland D-20 for sale with hard case, pedals, Ulitmate Support Systems
stand, memory card, and other goodies:  $600 or best offer
The D-20 has a built-in disk drive and 8-track sequencer, as well as a
really good set of drum sounds.

Here are some specs:
Keyboard:	61 Keys with velocity
Sound Source:	LA Synthesis, 32 Voices Max
Sequencer:	8 tracks + drum track, 16,000 notes or 500 bars max
Floppy Capacity:35,000 notes 

The sounds are based on "Tones", of which there are 128 preset, 64
programmable, and 63 rhythm.  A single tone together with a bunch of
filter and effects information becomes a "Timbre", of which there are 128.
You can play a different Tibre on each track of the 8-track sequencer,
or if you want richer sounds, you put together two tones into a "Patch".
There are 128 patches.  There is also a RAM card included that doubles
the on-board memory: you get 128 more patches, 128 more timbres, 64 more
tones, 32 more rhythm patterns, et al.

This synth has stereo outputs with some really nice stereo chorus, pan,
and reverb effects built-in.  Reply for a demo tape or more info; the
demo will sell ya!

-Roy
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: diarmuid@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Diarmuid Pigott)
Subject: Re: Proteus Patch Editor/Librarian available via FTP
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:06:46 GMT

soh@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott O'Hare) writes:
: In article <BtKLn8.C8M@comp.vuw.ac.nz> bernd@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Bernd Gill) writes:
: >Some time ago I developed a Patch Editor/Librarian
: >for the E-mu Proteus. It currently supports the Proteus/1, 
: >Proteus/2 and XR's.
: >The program runs on any Macintosh SE or higher with System 6.0 or later.
: Got anything for the Atari ST? Or know of anything at a seriously reasonable
: price? The Steinberg editor for Proteus lists for something like $150 - this is
: NOT reasonable..!

ditto pc...
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Charlie)
Subject: Re: Trade R8 for R8M?
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:58:51 GMT

In article <17e9pnINNj1t@wendy-fate.UU.NET> kyle@wendy-fate.UU.NET (Kyle Jones) writes:
>Other than saving space and giving you two extra ROM card slots,
>I don't know what the R8M buys you.  Might as well get an Alesis
>D4, except that the MIDI capabilities of the R8M are better.
>


Yeh, but the D4 has no jazz drums (brush & nice jazz rides in particular)!
Pop drum machines are a dime a dozen....
-- 
Chuck Siu		"If I'd never met you, I........" 
chucksi@comm.mot.com	 -Robert Redford to Lena Olin    "Havana"
From: arpraym@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Thinking about flushing Performer (and MOTU) down the drain!
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:10:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Aug31.155922.20557@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, pixel@cbnewse.cb.att.com (william.j.sequeira) writes:
> 
>>>>>FLAME ON>>>>
> 
> Well, I had it!  I have been a Performer user and MOTU's customer since 
> 1989, have gone through numerous version upgrades and owned of some

       [General Flaming Deleted]
 
> I have always vouched for MOTU in the past because their responsiveness had
> been excellent.  But today things have changed, and as a customer and user
> I have to point out this things too.
> 
>>>>>FLAME OUT>>>>
> 
> <phew> <sigh>

I'm not one to add my $.02 very often, but I have to add my voice to the
chorus (albeit 1 man chorus), of boos for MOTU. 

Their customer service has been bad/worse ever since I started dealing
with them, oh around V2.4 (several years ago. I am frustrated at what I
see as a great product, with terrible support. I've always been shi**y about
bad service,especially when I pay fairly good dollars even for upgrades. MOTU
has never given me very good service.

I even wrote to them once complaining, but never heard back, [I think that
was the only time I have been so pissed off about a product that I wrote the
company.

I hope I didn't start a flame like we got into over MOTU last year, but
obviously this is a sore point for lots of people on r.m.s.  Maybe someone
with AppleLink should forward some of the flames to them, (I tried contacting
them via AppleLink... again they just let the phone ring 8:)    ).


Ray MacNeil
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Why I like the Mac for Music
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:24:37 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: DUNN@SAFFRON.BITNET's message of 3 Sep 92 15:22:53 GMT

In article <9209031522.AA02572@saffron.IntelliCorp> DUNN@SAFFRON.BITNET (Casey Dunn) writes:

	   someday those dancers will want videos for their resume', or
	   reels if dancers call em that. sometimes used for grant
	   getting, tho I don't know if you guys have such things
	   overthere anymore.

Yeah we do, and I'm involved in grant-getting and so on.

Point taken: eventually I'll work with video. But I'm not going to get
hooked on vapourware: talk of QuickTime with MIDI tracks and the like is
of no interest to me. Show me it working, with (useful) video in and out,
which I can use in live performance, which I can afford, with integration
into a sophisticated MIDI rig and two computers driving a number of
synths and samplers, and then I'll believe it. QuickTime with some token
MIDI implementation? Nah. As much use as a chocolate biro.

	   it's just another peice of the performance spectrum.

Sure, though the multimedia productions I've seen don't impress me.
It's too easy to get tied up in the means rather than the end (like
what seems to happen at CyberArts conferences). This is another reason
QuickTime doesn't interest me. When I can see a way of using it to my
own ends, then I'll be interested.

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: scoring software?
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:31:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1992Aug31.062242.15464@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> diarmuid@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Diarmuid Pigott) writes:

>There are demos for most of the big guns (finale, score, cakewalk, music
>printer plus etc) aailable at ucsd.edu. Windows versions available from
>ftp.cica.indiana.edu.

I tried the Finale demo from ucsd.edu and found that it was so slow that
it put me right off from buying it. I believe that this was version 1.x of
Finale. I have now seen an advert for Finale 2 in a magazine - is this any
better with regards to speed ? Does it run in 386 enhanced mode ?

I personally like the layout an facilities of Finale but the speed (even on this
486 33MHz PC) puts me right off it.

Davei
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: Re: misc ...
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: rec.music.synth, rec.music.makers
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:33:26 GMT

jps@hatch.socal.com (J. P. Scott) writes:

: ii)  still trying to come up with some way for my TR808 to understand
:      and speak midi.  it doesn't have a CV input or output :-( so the
:      PAIA device won't do it.  am i left to my own devices on this one?

Kenton Electronics have a nice retrofit for the TR808. 
Last price I saw was 120,-- British Pounds.
Check them out for details:

KENTON ELECTRONICS
Rear of 137-165 Hook Road
Surbiton
Surrey KT6 5AR
England
Voice: 081-974 2575
Fax:   081-974 2485

I'm considering their products for my synths, no experience, no details,
no relation.

/m

-- 
Michael Zacherl, Wang Austria Ltd., Vienna         |
E-MAIL: mza@pag.wang.co.at                         | "Everything is possible,
PHONE:  +43 (1) 89-111 ext. 433                    |  but nothing is real"
FAX:    +43 (1) 894-17-14                          |     (Living Colour)
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Neeshu 'MIDI Automator'? Details, specs; any takers?
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:43:12 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

I heard about this thing and would like to know more.
 
 maurices