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From: sasha.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:50:17 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

sasha.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:

> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
> 
> > Here's the cast list as far as I can remember:
> > 
> > Anthony Hopkins: Dr. Van Helsing
> > Keanu Reeves: Jonathan Harker (Why, why, why, why?)
> > Winona Ryder: Mina Harker
> > Cary Elwes: Dr. Seward
> > Bill Campbell: Quincey Morris (The Texan)
> > Gary Oldman: Dracula aka Vlad Dracula 
> > Tom Waits: Renfield
> > 
> > There are two characters I don't know who's playing: 
> > 
> > Lord Holmwood, and Lucy Westenra (who's being played by a newcomer)
> 
> As a trivial piece of casting information, it was my understanding that 
> Drew Barrymore very nearly got the part of Lucy Westerna.
> 
> 
>                              - Sasha

Also, forgot to add that Daniel Day Lewis was orginally casted as Dracula 
but had a previous commitment with LAST OF THE MOHICANS.  In a fitting 
touch of irony however, Lewis and Ryder will be working together in some 
other movie.


                                          - Sasha



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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Jon Jost on American Playhouse (was: Re: Hal Hartley's ...)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 17:43:53 GMT

In article <9365@travis.csd.harris.com> doog@travis.csd.harris.com (Doug Scofield) writes:
>It happens nearly every time i stumble across AP on the local
>PBS station. <flip> NBC <flip> FOX <flip> Roman columns swirling 
>about in a well-composed (and long) shot, warm even lighting, 
>nothing really but the images.  I kinda felt like my TV was one
>of the columns that had broken free and was sliding around the
>marble forest playing tag.  Whee!
>
>This was part of a film "conceived, written, directed and edited"
>by Jon Jost.  

The film in question is almost certainly "All the Vermeers In New
York".  It received a brief theatrical release in major markets around
six months ago.  I personally didn't care for it, as a whole, but found
bits of it interesting.

>Who is this?  [Jon Jost] Why have i not heard more about him?

Jon Jost is one of the major figures in American independent film,
particularly in somewhat experimental film.  And has been, for over
a decade.  His films are made on very small budgets, and "All the
Vermeers In New York" received the *largest* release of any of them.
Meaning it showed in perhaps a dozen theaters in the United States.
If you do not keep up with experimental film, there is no reason
you would have heard of Jost, as his films show almost exclusively
in museums and university theaters.  (At least, in the U.S.)  If
you do keep up with experimental film, it would be amazing if you
hadn't heard of him, as he is regarded as one of the leading and
most influential figures in this field.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:19:22 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug30.013322.2809@qiclab.scn.rain.com> buggy@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Jeff C. Green) writes:
>I saw a film by the name of "Closet Land" that had only two actors.  Alan
>Rickman (Die Hard, Robin Hood, etc) and a woman whose name escapes me.  It
>was very bizarre and sureal.  I enjoyed it. :)  I can tell you this, it was
  [...]

  Were there not the guards who arrest her at the beginning?

  But I agree, this was a good, if somewhat predictable, movie.

  Wayne
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: sneakers ?
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:37:43 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

TJ>I've begun seeing trailers for this film, scheduled to open
TJ>in limited markets Sept 18 or so. I've heard that it's
TJ>"about hackers" -- (hey, and Robert Redford is in it)
TJ>does anyone have any more info, like what the story is?

     "Sneakers" looks like another political-espionage thriller.  One
     can't get any real idea of the plot from just seeing the trailer,
     but I THINK it goes like this:

     Group of professional espionage agents, including a computer hacker
     (played by Dan Aykroyd, in what looks like an interesting, eccentric,
     but not over-the-top [I hope] performance) stumble across some
     sort of a huge government conspiracy.  Now, what happens when people
     discover conspiracies in the movies?  The bad guys want them dead.
     So, it probably ends up with a "Mission Impossible" style ending,
     as the team uses their skills to bring the plot out into the
     open and ruin the bad guys.

     (NOTE: This is only a GUESS as to what the plot will be like.)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: Twin Peaks:Fire Walk With Me (possible spoliers)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:36:33 GMT

I saw Twin Peaks:Fire Walk With Me grudgingly, just because a friend wanted
to go. I felt David Lynch had gotten carried away with himself lately, as
I didn't like Wild At Heart or the pilot for the second season of TP.
I LOVED THIS FILM.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHY.
I was just speechless after I saw it. I thought I would hate it. But I
was eating it up, every second of it. It was extremely emotional. I felt
as though I knew all the characters, and to see them again, on year
earlier, just blew me away. Especially when the familiar music came back
and you see the girls walking to school.
What struck me the most was the style of photography. I was not as slick
and polished as Wild At Heart or the series. The film was grainy and
the lighting was kind of naturalistic. Like the scenes in the Palmers'
house or when Bobby is using the lay phone. It seemed almost low-budget
at times. Does anyone know if the film stock was unusual for a theatrical
release?
I really appreciated the way Lynch didn't pander to people who hadn't seen
the series. He just stuck to being faithful to his creation. And there were
SO MANY characters from the series in it, even Leo and Shirley. The
ads are stupid because they mention Bowie.
all throughout the film I was saying "This is a stupid movie, but I'm
loving every second." I guess those Japanese are way ahead of us.
I was fascinated with the character of Laura and the emotional high point
was when she broke with James at the very end. The most emotional bit
in any Lynch film.
I once saw Lynch's earliest films, The Grandmother and The Alphabet, and
the scene of Cooper playing with the TV monitors really reminded me of
those. After the film my friend played me a laserdisc of Industrial
Symphony and I hated it.
I guess a reason I liked this film is that it felt personal, that Lynch
is out to please TP fans, that he isn't being Ridley Scott or Oliver Stone,
and to hell with everybody else anyway. It may sound ridiculous but
I can't even remember the last time I enjoyed a film so much as last
night.
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:06:20 GMT

Query: Lucy, played by Winona Ryder.

I amy sound dumb, but what other films has this lucky lass been in?
Intriguedm, so I can see if she fits my image of lucy.

hook

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From: smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Re: Best gin shots......
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:36:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.091049.9416@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER) writes:

>rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM) writes:

>>Whichever one of those great spaghetti westerns where Clint Eastwood
>>shoots the rope in two just as Eli Wallach is about to hang.

>"The good the bad and the ugly.'
>>-- 
>>      "Were his solid black square paintings really,
>>      as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
>>      compositions devoid of external references and
>>      meanings?" ***********************************

"I-ee-i-ee-ah.  Wha-wha-wha!"
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Possible Foundation movie?
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:51:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Ta2yPB3w164w@cellar.org>, swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur) writes...
>lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:
> 
>> Making movies out of well-known science fiction classics has not been
>> attempted very often, and when it is attempted it's not often successful.
>> I can think of a few exceptions ---
>> 
>> With good results:
>>   Blade Runner ("Do Androids....")
>>   2001
> 
>	Yes, but 2001 was being written at the same time the film was being
>made (See Clarke's notes in the front of 2001; he says something along the
>lines of "watching dailes and revising your text is an interesting way to
>write a book.").  So, does it really belong in the category of "films that
>were made out of books?"

It does, because Space Odyssey was originally based on a Clarke short story
called  _The Sentinel_

Ron
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park castings ??
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:06:04 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep3.113116.8478@swift.cs.tcd.ie>, mjhowe@swift.cs.tcd.ie 

>some of the cast for "jurassic park".
 
> can anyone confirm or deny the following?
Yep...it's true.
 
> john hammond - sir richard attenborough
His return to acting after 15 years *behind* the camera.  He directed:
_Ghandi_, _A Passage to India_, and _Cry Freedom_.  (Thanks Nancy)

> ellie (my guess) - laura dern
My guess as well.

> ??? - sam neill
The lead paleontologist.  He is perfect for this role!
 
> the 3 names were mentioned, but only the hammond character was described.
> i'm guessing about ellie - seems to be the only female part available.
I agree.
 
Also announced: Jeff Goldbloom as Malcom the morbid Mathmatician.
Another piece of beautiful casting!

> did everybody know all of this already?
I did.  It was posted previously.

Greg Bole                                    "The ants in the grass, they
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  were just doing their thing."
                                            Matt Dillon in _Drugstore Cowboy_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Anyone see Columbus???
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 20:55:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.055046.23638@PacBell.COM> jcwasik@srv.PacBell.COM (Joe Wasik) writes:
>It's been five days.  SOMEONE must have seen this movie.  Anyone care
>to review?

I saw it, and sent a review to rec.arts.movies.reviews.  I haven't
seen the review come through, yet.  Briefly, I thought it was a lot
better than one might have expected.  Variety agrees with me, the
LA Times does not.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Subject: Re: War Movies
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
X-Lunar-Date: 2 days, 8 hrs, 19 mins until the new moon (U.T.)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.154615.17040@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, bailey@emunix.emich.edu (Grand Moff Tarkin) writes:
> It [The Gallant Hours] is out on video tape, as I watched it and thought it
> was the most boring movie I've ever seen.

Nope...that singular honor belongs to "In Harm's Way," starring John Wayne and
Kirk Douglas.  A more pointless movie has never been made.

IMHO, of course...

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC)
Subject: Re: Most ridiculous sex scene (in a movie - not real life)
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:35:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.194431.1806@samba.oit.unc.edu> joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields) writes:
> All this talk of sex in movies has gotten me thinking... what is the most
> ridiculous sex scene you've ever seen in a movie.  I don't mean sex scenes
> that are meant to be funny, I mean sex scenes that are meant to be serious
> (or at least tittilating) but instead left you gasping for air with
> laughter.

This isn't sex, but gratuitous tittilation: The scene in the movie
"The Perils of Gwindline" where bare brested women are pulling chariots.
One of the most stupid movies I've ever paid to see. 

John S. Watson, Civil Servent from Hell          ARPA: watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov

HOMEBREW NAKED! --- Ursus cerevisiae nudium  (The Bare Beer Bear)
All right, then, I'll GO to hell"  --- Mark Twain
From: gsmith@bbn.com (Graeme Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Least women in movie!
Date: 31 Aug 1992 19:13:38 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


The Hunt for Red October ...

graeme
From: brad@optilink.UUCP (Brad Yearwood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Masturbation in SINGLE WHITE FEMALE
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:36:30 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1743egINNok2@agate.berkeley.edu>, peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:
> Though I didn't think about it while watching the film, upon further 
> reflection I was quite upset about the masturbation scene in SWF. Not
> because masturbation offends me, but the opposite. When the Fonda character
> sneaks up on the Leigh character masturbating, it is obvious that this
> action leads to the Leigh's characterization of loneliness (especially as
> it follows a love scene with Fonda)... Leigh, of course, is not mentally
> with-it... I'm disturbed by that the mentally whacked-out character is 
> shown masturbating as a symbol of her loneliness, and possibly her 
> insanity (as it is not portrayed positively in the film)... It's unfair
> (considering how many people masturbate) and discouraging to those who
> might already feel guilty in pleasuring themselves. Jeers to SWF.
> 
> --Peter M.

I'd argue that this scene is a device, but not to indicate loneliness per se.

I really need to see the picture again to be certain, but I believe the
device is threefold: inject a little extra voyeuristic pizazz, exorcise
a screenwriter's minor demon from some past embarrassing/awkward/amusing/
exciting roommate experience, and provide a turning point for Fonda's
character (name???).

After having sex, she hears noises, gets up to investigate, and takes a
little bit too much effort to peek into Hedra's room (head).  She had
suspicions before - her reaction could otherwise have been different, but
it is clear that she chooses to see Hedra at this instant as something of
a sexual vampire, crystallizing suspicions about her generally vampiric
potential.

[Or it might be clear at this point that this is the screenwriter's last
chance to get JJL on the screen mostly naked, before she's scheduled to get
busy with the weapons.]

Most of us have had our fears of creaking stairs, spiders, lightning and
thunder, sharp objects, bathroom surprises, unexpected drops or rivulets
of blood, rats, snakes, power tools, and deformities, exploited to the point
of desensitization.  Why not add something a little more complicated, like
roomie voyeurism, to the list?

Brad Yearwood    brad@optilink.com   {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
Petaluma, CA
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From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Subject: Re: Is "Heavy Metal" a bootleg?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:26:16 GMT

bjbartlett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu  writes:
>   I copied "Heavy Metal" off of Showtime (or was it Cinemax) this summer 
> and was wondering if it could be considered a bootleg.  I haven't seen it 
> available on tape or anywhere else since it first came out, and I don't 
> think anything was cut out of it (as far as I can remember.)
> 
> -Bart
> 

Yes, it's not officially avaiable on video.  Most copies of
Heavy Metal sold on video are probably recordings of the movie
off of Cinemax.
--
                               - Curt Tsui -
      			     curt@Virginia.EDU
   "Happiness might very well be a glandular condition." - David Cronenberg 
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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies? 
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa  
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:26:46 GMT

In <1992Aug10.151138.24613@unlv.edu> frank@snooks.isri.unlv.edu (Frank Jenkins) writes:

>Don't miss BREAKER MORANT... an excellent story of the courts-martial of Australian troops for an act committed during (if I remember right) the Boer war.

definately - along those lines would be _Courtmartial of Billy Mitchell_,
_Soldier's Story_, _Caine Mutiny Courtmartial_ (or something like that)

I believe that the forthcoming Jack Nicholson/Tom Cruise USMC movie is
also a trial story - but I could be wrong....

gary cooper (not the dead one)
From: v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:04:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <9yH7PB2w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes...
>I was just trying to think about which film had the least number of 
>actors. The smallest I could thing of is Breakfast Club which only has 
>(I'm going by charters description here)

	Sleuth had only two characters in the whole movie....

	Michael Caine and Lawrence Olivier
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From: smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:32:04 GMT
Organization: Adelphi University Swirbul Library

In article <1992Sep1.131734.1882@exu.ericsson.se> exukozi@exu.ericsson.se (Tom Koziatek) writes:

>In article <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:
>>
>> What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
>> embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
>> up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
>> who bought a ticket to this turkey).  

Its either _Dune_.  My friend had read the book.  She dragged me to the 
opening day:  "It's ganna be GREAT!", she said.  And we sat there going: 
"What the?" during the Ride the Giant Sandworm scene.  We were the only 
people in the theater, even the ushers had stayed outside.  So that must 
have made us bone(alone)heads.

Or its _Ice Pirates_ (_Ice Bandits_?), with its women as castrating bitches 
theme.  Stink-oh!

Jim
smith1.
franklin@panther.adelphi.edu
From: mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best shots wanted
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:20:33 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin


	Some of these "best shots" may be cinematogrophy, or acting, or
	even just a facial expression that captures the essence of the
	movie in just that one look.  These are some of first ones that
	spring to mind.

	How about (not in any order):

	1)  Slim Pickens ride on a H-bomb in Dr. Stangelove.

	2)  The closing scene of Apocalypse Now (some theaters only)
		of the napalming of Col. Kurtz's compound.

	3)  The dialogue and swordplay between Wesley and Inigo Montoya
		when they first meet (Princess Bride)

	4)  The short circuit scene at the end of The Natural 
		(Pioneer Special Edition preferred if you can find it)

	5)  The vibrator scene in From The Hip

	6)  Ripley's preparation and resolve against the thing she fears
		the most while descending in the elevator (Aliens)

	7)  The visual "death" sequence in Brainstorm

	8)  The Mickey Mouse song sung by the Marines at the end of Full 
		Metal Jacket as they are advancing (reminds you just how
		young we were marching through those rice patties)

	9)  The "We must be looking at the most stupidest man in the world"
		scene in Ruthless People

	10)  The scene of "P-51, Cadallac of the sky" when Jamie is running
		around excited on top a platform and all hell is 
		breaking loose
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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: Request for title of exceptionally bad 70's film
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 06:37:06 GMT

In article <28AUG199201293825@zeus.tamu.edu> spb0457@zeus.tamu.edu (SubGenius) writes:
>
>The other night I turned on the old T(hought) V(ampire), and was greeted
>by Ringo Starr speaking in a VERY BAD Spanish accent.
> ...
>Apparently, there's this chick named Candy (this may be the title of the
>movie) and what she does is schtup every male in the film, more or less.

That is indeed the name of the movie.  Miserable movie with, along
with the others you mentioned (John Astin, Ringo Starr, James Coburn,
Marlin Brando, Walter Mattheau), Richard Burton and John Huston
(according to Maltin, not trusting my memory-- who also lists it as
1968, not a 70's movie).

It was the butt of jokes when I went to highschool, although I never
saw it at that time.  I've seen it since, however, and it is really
bad.  Fascinatingly bad, perhaps.

-mm-
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From: agc@cci632.cci.com (Anupama Chathampally - co-op)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What are those Negroes doing with guns?
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:34:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <1992Sep2.113813.744@calmasd.prime.com> wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:
>
>	While I'm at it :> (snicker dastardly), I have no empathy for Native
>Americans, or the inner city urban problems.
>	Native Americans would most assuredly would have done everything, if
>not more, to every white man who stepped onto this continent if they were able
>to.  Doesn't make the US's actions of the time, or now, correct, but I have no
>guilt about winning this continent.  
>	Something else.  A major tenent of American Indian culture is that the
>land owns them - they don't own the land.  I'm sorry, but native american's
>have no right to any land (other than those by treaty) simply because they were
>there first.  Before the Crow was some other, now killed off (doubtlessly
>helped along the path of extinction by the Crows) race of peoples who claimed
>it as their sacred lands.

The Indians did sign treaties for their land only to have the U.S. break them 
and push the Indians further west until there was no where left to go. Check out
some history books.