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From: potter@scan2.tamu.edu (Shane Potter)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
Subject: Any information about Dallas/Fort Worth?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:58 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hi,

	I saw this question posted before, but couldn't find any replies
to it.  Does anyone know if there is public internet access available
(free OR fee, doesn't matter) in the Dallas/Fort Worth/surrounding area?

							Thanks,
							-Shane

Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Any information about Dallas/Fort Worth?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:44:33 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

potter@scan2.tamu.edu (Shane Potter) writes:

>	I saw this question posted before, but couldn't find any replies
>to it.  Does anyone know if there is public internet access available
>(free OR fee, doesn't matter) in the Dallas/Fort Worth/surrounding area?

PSI is the only fee-provider of Internet services in the DFW area that
I'm aware of.  A friend and I were trying to create our own network
provider service in the area, but we ran into difficulties involving
money, time, and insufficient market analysis (i.e. we didn't know if
anyone would really want our service).  There certainly are not any free
service providers, except at the UUCP level.

I hear that there is supposedly a company called Metro-Net which is
trying to also set up fee access to Internet in DFW, but I have not
heard anything from them for a while.

-- 
#ifdef TRUE        | Fuzzy Fox (a.k.a. David DeSimone)       fuzzy@netcom.com
#define  TRUE   0  |
#define  FALSE  1  |  "You have been recruited by the Star League to defend
#endif             |     the Frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada."
From: fly@acsu.buffalo.edu (Paul D. Fly)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
Subject: denver
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:43:16 GMT
Organization: UB

Is there an internet access site in the Denver area *other* than Nyx?  
One preferabbly with a semblence of disk space and telnet capabilities?

Thanks much!


-- 
Paul Fly                      | "Thinking is more interesting than knowing,
fly@acsu.buffalo.edu          |  but less interesting than looking."
v092pxca@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu |    --Goethe
From: rdm4@teer7.acpub.duke.edu (RYAN MARTELL)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
Subject: Internet access in 704 area code (W. North Carolina)
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:21:57 GMT

I am going home for Christmas and would like to stay connected.  It's amazing how
fast you get addicted to the Internet.  So if anyone knows a phone number for me
to get onto the internet in Western NC, (specifically Asheville), I would really
appreciate it.

Thanx,
Ryan
(rdm4@acpub.duke.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: cl128219@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: 812/502 Area Code?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:02:47 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

  What about free Internet access in the 812/502 area code area?
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Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: heiko@Harpo.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Heiko Schlichting)
Subject: Re: Willing to pay for Internet access in Germany
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Dept. of Chemistry
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:07:40 GMT

kyd@kali.EBay.Sun.COM (Karen Y. deWeeger) writes:

>Actually, my Father is willing to pay. He lives in the Frankfurt
>area (Bad Soden) and would like to have Internet access either
>from home, work or both. Does anyone out there know how to go 
>about getting access?

Private internet access (Mail, News, direct TCP/IP connection) is
possible via the Individual Network e.V. in Germany. 

Contacts: in@individual.net         (mailing list to all admins of the 
                                    individual network)
	  postmaster@rhein-main.de  (regional group for Frankfurt/Main)
	  postmaster@gun.de	    (regional group for Niederrhein)

The Individual Network offers access for private use only, commercial use
is not allowed.

Heiko (postmaster@IN-Berlin.DE)
-- 
Heiko Schlichting                     | Freie Universitaet Berlin
heiko@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de     | Institut fuer Kristallographie
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: "rodney jones" <rodney.jones@canrem.com>
Subject: internet access toronto
Reply-To: "rodney jones" <rodney.jones@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:37:55 EST


Does anyone know of anyone(BBS public or private) offering access to the
internet (FTP, MAIL ...) in the Toronto, Ontario CANADA area.
Area code 416

Thanks in advance
Rodney Jones
rodney.jones@canrem.com
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: mengwong@pobox.upenn.edu (Meng Weng Wong)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
Subject: Telnet / Email from Singapore?
Summary: Wanted: access from Singapore
Keywords: singapore
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:07:28 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

(random thought: do people actually reply to these questions?)

        I'll be in      SINGAPORE      for a couple weeks
              this      CHRISTMAS      break, 
      and would be   WILLING TO PAY    a moderate amount
               for   ACCESS TO MAIL    by either
         finding a       TELNET        prompt, or by setting up
 a mail forward to   A NEW ACCOUNT     created just for the purpose.

   I am aware that       FIDONET       is popular in Singapore,
          and that     COMPUSERVE      is also available, but would like
        to know if  REGULAR INTERNET   access is a possibility.

		       THANK YOU
-- 
       more random neural activity from mengwong@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.bbs.ads
From: dsolomon@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Internet Access in Chicago
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:14:00 PST

I am in the Chicago area and I am hoping to get some sort of Internet access.
I am primarily looking for TELNET/FTP access, but I would also like email
and News available, though those are only secondary.  My hope would be that
it could be on a VMS system, if possible.  Also, if you have any information,
could you send it via email, as I don't regularly read News.
Thanks.


		- Dan Solomon

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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan)
Subject: Re: Why you're such a shit
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:41:16 GMT

ST201026@brownvm.brown.edu (nathan marsh) writes:

>Carying this further, while I can convince myself of the existence of
>*self*, I think therefore I am and all that nonesense, I find it much
>harder, on a fundamental level, to convince myself of the existance of
>*other* selves.  It is impossible for me to ever experience the world
>as anyone except myself, and thus I have *no proof* (this is a logical,
>intellectual philosiphy that depends on empirical verification) that anyone
>else is *really* there.  You could all just be robots or computers, with
>no sense of self whatsoever.

My, aren't *we* the solipsist today?  Pssst... this ain't angst either.
Anyhow, *you're* the one who has to prove *his* existence to me.

Though as long as we're speaking of Descartes (who somehow expanded the above
premise into a proof of the existence of God--how I don't know; I'm no
philosopher, and I consider his coordinate system to be a considerably
more important accomplishment), I always found his death a rather sad
story (I shan't use the "a" word for fear of incurring the wrath of Duke).

It seems that he lived most of his life in warm part of France, and was
accustomed to waking up late in the day.  However, he was appointed to
some post by some terribly important person in some terribly cold place
(something like tutor to the children of the king of Denmark--I don't 
remember the exact details).  This was ostensibly a better job, so as
your typical upwardly mobile philosopher and Renaissance man (in a literal
sense if no other), he accepted eagerly.  

Now, as part of his job description, he had to be awakened early in the day,
in the dark and chill of predawn.  I ask, what would *you* do under such harsh 
circumstances?  Basically, what he did, after a few months, was to sort of get 
sick and die, which is, I confess, what I would probably do.

Note that some of the details above (or even the whole story) might be 
untrue.  Nonetheless, I think there's an important lesson there for all of us.

--
Paul Callahan
callahan@cs.jhu.edu
From: toj8j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (prufrock)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: angst according to the dictionary
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:40:08 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Hogan) writes:
>
>Nothing about intellectual justification.
>An Oxford English Dictionary definition will
>follow shortly unless somebody beats me to the
>punch with it.

Well, since you asked... :)


{angst      
 ..aliangst angst angst  &ae.&sd.&ng.st &sm.&ae.&ng.st. G. 
 
 Anxiety, anguish, neurotic fear; guilt, remorse. 
 
 1849 Geo. Eliot Let. 5 Aug. (1954) I. 293 `Die Angst' she says 
      often brings on a pain at her heart. 
 1922 C. J. M. Hubback tr. Freud's Beyond Pleasure Principle ii. 
      9 Apprehension (Angst) denotes a certain condition as of expectation 
      of danger..even though it be an unknown one. 1941 Philosophy XVI. 
      260 To Heidegger Angst, dread, is the fear of metaphysical insecurity. 
 1944 Palinurus Unquiet Grave 22 Angst may take the form of remorse 
      about the past, guilt about the present, anxiety about the future. 
 1950 A. Huxley Themes & Variations 202 To acedia and confusion, to 
      nightmare and angst, to incomprehension and panic bewilderment. 
 1956 C. P. Snow Homecomings viii. 65 Discussing other people whose lives 
      were riven by angst--it domesticated her wretchedness a little to 
      have that label to pin on. 
 1964 New Statesman 10 Apr. 574/1 Telly-angst is a natural corollary of 
      architectural news-angst generally.
 
 Comb., as angst-forming angst-forming angst-forming , angst-ridden 
      -ridden -ridden , angst-wrought -wrought -wrought  adjs.
 
 1944 Palinurus Unquiet Grave 43 There need be nothing angst-forming 
      about the sexual act. 
 1958 Times 14 Feb. 6/1 (Advt.), The..contrast drawn between those years 
      and our Angst-ridden era.                                  
 1958 Observer 27 Apr. 15/Untitled PAnxiety, anguish, neurotic fear; 
      guilt, often brings on a pain at her heart.
}

Gotta love the on-line OED.  Surprisingly enough, some of this is even
mildly pertinent--check out the 1944 usage of the combinational form
"Angst-ridden".  How little they know...

--tj (prufrock)
Newsgroups: alt.angst.xibo.sex,alt.mud,alt.religion.kibo
Newsgroups: alt.angst,rec.arts.poems,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: a return to the void (poem)
From: lutan@pyros.hacks.arizona.edu (Vance R. Haemmerle)
Date: 14 DEC 92 08:20:10    
Reply-To: vance%toyvax@arizona.edu
Followup-To: alt.angst,rec.arts.poems,alt.suicide.holiday
Distribution: world,local
Organization: UofA Hardware And Computing Knowledge Society
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  


 a return to the void


 this void is my home
 a self-imposed exile
 immeasurable distance
 from the unattainable

 asleep in emptiness
 adrift in time
 a beautiful voice
 awakens me

          -

 a sojourn outside these confines
 let me see the sun does still shine
 but i do not deserve the sun
 and she can never be mine

 i walked among all the others
 to find any compared to the sun
 all were colorless and ashen faces
 devoid of life, except for this one

 i will miss the bursts of laughter
 the joy in my heart beholden
 but i realize that i cannot stay
 for all those moments were stolen

          -

 so i embrace the void
 it is my only lover
 it sucks up my secrets
 and silences my troubles

 yes, i fear the void
 but i can cry no longer
 so i return to the void
 and let it take me
 take me
 take me



--
Vance Haemmerle                         vance%toyvax@arizona.edu
Tucson, AZ                             vance@vips.lpl.arizona.edu
      * A hopeless romantic who's romantically hopeless *
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Duke Robillard)
Subject: Re: Why I'm such a shit
Organization: /u1/duke/.organization
	<3PTyVB4w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca>
	<DUKE.92Dec18182926@portal.paperboy.osf.org>
	<1992Dec19.004706.10201@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
Date: 19 Dec 92 11:37:33

In article <1992Dec19.004706.10201@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:

   Your first paragraph contradicts your claim (in another posting) that Hesse and
   Dostoyevsky wrote angst literature.  Dostoyevsky was religious, and very 
   interested in moral affairs.  Hesse may not have been religious, but he was 
   certainly interested in mystic symbolism.  In any case, neither of these
   novelists believed the universe to be mechanistic and meaningless.  Or at
   least, if they did, I don't know why they bothered to write all those novels
   and essays.

Well, it sounds like you're more familar with these dudes than I.  I'm
working from their fiction only; mostle Crime and Punishment (sans the
sappy, tacked on Hollywood ending, for which I'll be attacked, I'm
sure) and Steppenwolf, and ... (rats I can't remember the other name.
Not Sidhartha--the other big Hesse one set in a city...damn).  The
main characters here worry about God and Morality, but come to similar
nihilistic conclusions.  That's how I read them anyway.

   Now, I must tell you that I used to spend time pondering ideas such as those 
   in the first paragraph.  I never found them depressing.  On one level, they
   are quite liberating.  However, in the end, I find them unsatisfying.
...
   Do I want to be scientific, or do I want to be happy?  I tried being 
   scientific, and now I'd rather be happy.

Hmmm....interesting.  So far I haven't been able to bring myself to 
do this.  I mean, the only things people have that differentiate them
from other animals is their brain.  It seems to be species-treason
to toss out rationality



--
Duke Robillard, DoD #0130, duke@osf.org
angst.motorcycles: "We may be doomed, but at least the adrenaline keeps us awake"
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan)
Subject: Re: Why I'm such a shit
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:45:07 GMT

duke@portal.paperboy.osf.org (Duke Robillard) writes:

>Hmmm....interesting.  So far I haven't been able to bring myself to 
>do this.  I mean, the only things people have that differentiate them
>from other animals is their brain.  It seems to be species-treason
>to toss out rationality

Yes, but truly inspired irrationality requires full use of the human brain.

--
Paul Callahan
callahan@cs.jhu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: reinstat@byron.u.washington.edu (Robert Reinstatler)
Subject: Re: age, christmas, booze
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:21:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.233720.7054@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:
>llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine) writes:
>
>> mhr@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (MH Ross ) writes:
>
>>: an attractive, sexy woman, or just as the kid's mom, the man's wife,
>>: the person responsible for the stale food in the refrigerator.
>
>>the act. i once got involved with a much much younger male because he
>>said to me unexpectedly and shyly, "i, uh, kinda want you." major ego
>>boost.
>
>I envy both of you for being able to wonder seriously.  The image of some
>sixteen year old girl lusting after me is just too comical to consider.
>
>--
>Paul Callahan

No kidding.  At 48, I'm old enough to wonder if the lust would be a put on 
so that she could find out if it really is possible to induce a heart attack.

Bob Reinstatler
From: hagop@edison.seas.ucla.edu (Hagop D. Janoyan)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Books, please
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:15:15 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

Anyone willing to share with me some names of their favorite angstful books?  

Anything will do...fiction, non-fiction...just something that I'll be glad
I read, and something that will somehow affect my thought process (for better
or for worse).

To start of the list, I'd like to recommend "Not The End of The World," by 
Rebecca Stowe.  Very touching story about a 13-year old girl who the world
seems to despise.  Right now, I'm reading "Great Jones Street" by Don
DeLillo.  Not a very angstful book, but definetly a thoughtful novel with
some very interesting characters.

-Hagop
-- 
-Hagop
From: vance@lpl.arizona.edu (Vance Haemmerle x4021)
Newsgroups: alt.angst,rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: Camus is my psychotherapist
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:58:31 GMT
Followup-To: alt.angst,rec.arts.poems
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.


	If...

  If you ever need a loan of money
  If you want to feel a bit more sunny
  If you're hungry for milk and honey
  I'm here

  If you ever need a place to stay
  or simply want the time of day
  If you happen to find a hair of grey
  I'm here

  If you're bored and have some time to share
  If you ever need someone to care
  or tell a secret to - if you dare
  I'm here

  If a loved one happens to die
  and you need a shoulder on which to cry
  If you yearn to be rescued, I will try
  I'm here

  I hope you find who you're looking for
  but if not or until then
  I'm here

  Be my Valentine


        -- Vance Haemmerle 2/13/92
           Enough of the depressing poetry for now.  I dug this up
           from Valentine's.  The woman this was written for had
           already dismissed me as just a friend.  She loved the
           poem, but that's all. *sigh*

--
Vance Haemmerle                         vance%toyvax@arizona.edu
Tucson, AZ                             vance@vips.lpl.arizona.edu
      * A hopeless romantic who's romantically hopeless *
From: rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Hogan)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: syrupy holiday movies (was: this may be angst, I think)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 14:26:18 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

sine / deb responded:
to Ron Hogan's original post:

>: I really need a dose of Miracle on 34th Street to restore my faith
>: in myself and the rest of humanity right about now...

>i wish somehow every copy of that movie (and it's a wonderful life and
>santa claus and the martians and every other cheesy, unrealistic,
>insulin-surge-producing holiday movie ever made) would disintegrate
>into a zillion motes of celluloid dust.
[...]
>fuck family values. fuck happy cheerful christmas scenes. miracle on
>34th street was a *movie*, it was fake, it says nothing about human
>nature except that we'd really like it if other people were nice and
>friendly and wanting you to be happy instead of lurking around the
>corner ready to screw you over royally if it means a tiny increase in
>wealth or prestige or sexual satiation for them.

[rest of rant deleted]

Well, yeah, that's kind of the point, isn't it?  I should explain: the
first time that I saw Miracle on 34th Street was when I was 18 (back in
1988) and it was a little less than two weeks since my father had 
unexpectedly died in a car accident (yes, that does put the date around
now-- last Friday or Thursday, as a matter of fact).  And the last time
that I had talked to him was when I was home over Thanksgiving break and
we had had an argument over he and my mom putting aside their differences
to help with my tuition and then a month later I was on a plane home and
showing up too late to even get to see him in the hospital...

And yeah, the movie's a goddamn phony, it's a crutch, it's not real,
I know that, but it worked, dammit.  I laughed my fucking ass off watching
that movie and was able to get through the rest of an incredibly depressing
Christmas season with just a little more positive energy than I would
have had without it.

Not that I'm advocating becoming completely absorbed in the movies,
but there's that line from Sullivan's Travels:

Do you know what a wonderful thing it is to laugh?
That's all some people have.

Nothing against you personally, deb.  I appreciate your candor in
telling us how you feel about Xmas movies.  Just thought I'd amplify
where I was coming from when I made the original statement.

Ron
From: bucknerb@bnr.ca (Brent Buckner)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: fuck the notion of *real* angst
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:56:34 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada

In article <1gum8qINNlp6@phakt.usc.edu> rhogan@phakt.usc.edu (Ron Hogan) writes:
>The idea that there is a real, intellectually based angst, which
>develops out of literary and philosophical movements, and which is
>somehow more authentic and pure an angst than one based on emotional
>dissatisfaction with the conditions of an individual's life...
>
>...strikes me as elitist bullshit.
>
>Qualtitative comparison of angst?
>Give me a fucking break.
>
>Not to invalidate Camus, Sartre, Dostoevsky, Beckett et al., but
>they aren't inherently purer in their angst than anybody on alt.angst
>who shares their frustration that (they're virgins/they hate their job/
>life sucks/fill in your angst) with us.
>

There are generally accepted uses of the word "angst".  It is
not a synonym for frustration or depression.

Hmmm... perhaps we need alt.depression; most of what would be
posted to a newsfroup alt.frustration would fit under 
alt.bitterness.

-- 
at Bell-Northern Research
voice:        (613) 765-2739
Canada Post:  P.O. Box 3511, Station C, Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7
I do not claim that BNR holds these views.