From: kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)
Subject: Re: Mommy! They Called Me Names! (Was: Implications of Abortion...)
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In article <1992Apr12.190057.24646@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>In <1992Apr12.180154.7647@wam.umd.edu> judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein -- too baudy for my modem) writes:
>
>>Where it was written: <1992Apr12.161143.27019@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
>>Who wrote it:         kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)
>
>>>> = <1992Apr10.224333.2502@cs.dal.ca>, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
>
>>>So, are you AGREEING that pro-lifers who harass women attempting to enter
>>>planned parenthood clinics should spend time in jail?  
>   Every time a pro-lifer protests the present legistlation of the political
>force, we understand that we are risking the possibility of arrest. However,
>we usually try and work within the confines of the legal implications because
>jail is most certainly a drag.
>   This already happens - There have been quite a few men and women who have 
>been placed in jail for obstruction, loitering, public nuisance, etc... Then
>again, lots of people were arresed in the South during King's regime, and
>Gandhi spent a fair bit of time in Jail. Hell, Jesus Christ died at the
>hands of the law because of his beliefs (perhaps at the mercy of people like
>you?) We understand the responsiblity every time we carry a picket sign,
>but my friend - it is worth it.

[Notice the subtle equation of the pro-life movement with the civil rights
movements in America and India.  Good work, Steve].

Nice sentences, Steve.  So, should somebody who fire-bombs a clinic be charged
with Arson, ans suffer the penalties of Arson, or should they be allowed to use
the "higher law" argument that the peaceful civil rights protesters used?

>   
>>I asked a protester something like this once, and her reply was that it didn't
>>bother her, because the law worked to her benefit since she is "pro-life..."
>>*sigh* without a hint of irnoy, too.
>   So? Judge a group by an individual? Heck - you guys had better feel the
>same way - the law is working with pro-choice right now too... But,
>things are changing already - maybe even before I graduate we'll see the change
>I'm waiting for. 
>
>>>>you are guilty as charged dear...
>>>As are you, Honey.  Wanna be my cell-mate?  I promise I'll be gentle...
>   Are you a freak or something?

Well, that's what most of the "true Christians [TM!]" have been trying to tell
me.  Unfortunatly for you, God already told me how much he loves me, and I'm
just a wee bit more inclined to believe him then a bunch of homophobic anal-
retentive virgin men.
>
>>When a man loves a woman, he supports her right to choose.
>   When a REAL man respects life, he supports the woman's unborn child.

No, when a REAL man respects life, he respects HER rights, and then the 
"rights" of the "WarmCuteFuzzyUnbornChild".  You see, REAL men see REAL
women, and not just FetusRecepticals.

>   When a REAL man loves a woman, he supports her pregnancy so fully
>that she would have no reason to have an abortion...

Gee, and just how is a man's support going to help a woman through a tubal
pregnancy?  Just how is a man's support going to help a diabetic WOMAN from
getting killed by the "WarmCuteFuzzyUnbornChild" inside of her???

>   When a REAL man loves a woman, he offers the life long commitment of
>marriage to her. 

Come back to t.a in 10 years, Steve, and let us know how many "lifelong
commitments" you've had...
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