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From: marcouil@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Luc Marcouiller)
Subject: Dura-Lube (was: back to your favorite subject: mobil-1,homebrew..)
Keywords: Oil
Reply-To: marcouil@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
Organization: Hydro-Quebec
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:37:15 GMT

Greetings bikers of the electronic underground,

I saw one of those direct marketing programs on american TV (WPTZ 5 Plattsburg,
NY) last saturday.  It was about *The lubricant of the future* DURA-LUBE, it
showed with much hype and live tests how it outperforms any engine oil (even
the sanctified Mobil-1).  Anybody else saw this ?? There must be a catch or,
well..., it's very impressive!

Basically they performed two test: one was a kind of lubrication benchmark
and in the other they pulled out the oil drain plug on a dragster engine on
a test bench.

Test 1: lubrication benchmark

       A contact force was applied to a non-rotating roller about 0.5 in dia.
       on a rotating cylinder about 2 in dia with it's axis perpendicular to
       the roller's one (very small contact area).  
       Part 1: constant force (for each lubricant), they applied a coat of
       the said lubricant to the rotating cylinder, start the thing and 
       mesure the time before a certain friction level was obtained.
       Winner: Dura-lube of course and by a lot.(Castrol GTX, Mobil-1,
       Penzoil, slick 50 gave about the same readings)
       Part 2: this time they used a fish weighting scale and asked 
       participants to apply the force on the roller.  Same results.
       They also showed the rollers afterward: they all showed big gouges 
       except...you got it!

Test 2: Engine test bench

       That was a big show, here it is.  They used a big chevy something
       on a computerized dynamometer test bench which displayed all the
       usefull info: oil pressure, oil temp, rpm, hp,...  Then they drained
       the oil (which was ... arg! never mind) while it was idling: the oil 
       pressure curve was going down, down.  They pushed the beast to 522 Hp:
       the guys working there were pulling their hair loose, one even ran
       out of the building to avoid receiving parts of an exploding dragster
       engine!  But, but it didn't happen (of course!), it didin't sized, 
       coolant temp was in normal range, etc, etc...

Furthermore they garantee that there is no solid (like slick 50 has) and can
be used in any engine as oil.  What gives? Is this all bullshit or what ? 
'cos if the test are anywere close to what they showed I'm impressed!
Long term durability (despite the name) was not tested.

So what do you think geek bikers of the planet earth ?

Ride cool (or cold)

Luc

ObMoto: Pulled out the oil pan on the ol' ninja 'cos one of the oil plug hole
        was striped.  Saved most of the gasket short of one inch section that
	sticked to the other face.  Do you think I can save this one with the
	addition of some heat-resistant silicon gasket in a tube? Thanks
-- 
   Luc Marcouiller,                  Institut de Recherche d'Hydro-Quebec,
   Chercheur                         marcouil@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: That T2 motorcycle jump... Not real, just magic
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:45:08 GMT

scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:

>	Not that I have any doubt that the jump was faked, but... if this whole
>	thing was done with cages and cranes etc. and went at about the speed
>	you saw in the movie, why did they have someone other than Arnie on
>	the bike during the jump? It sounds like a pretty safe operation for
>	a stunt. What, he afraid he's going to break a nail?

What makes you think that anybody was on the bike at all? They used both
dummies and stuntmen in Arnie makeup for various shots. The infamous
drop was done with a crane, but no cage. The crane suspended a
horizontal boom, and cables ran from each end of the boom down to the
bike. The crane just swept the bike forward off the edge of the canal,
and the cable lowered the bike at a fairly rapid pace, not free-fall by
any means, but certainly not the slow-motion that some have claimed. Or
am I the only one here that saw the "making of" video? :-)

Then once the bike touches the ground, they strike that setup, replace
the Arnie-dummy with a stuntman, and the drop-bike with soft springs &
spark makers (just guessing on this point :-) with a ridable bike, and
spend the next day filming the next 5 minutes of screen time.

Look at it closely the next time you watch it, there are a LOT of jump
cuts and different camera angles in those few seconds from when the T-800
approaches the edge of the canal to when it recovers from the "impact"
and rides off. The trick is that we're so used to seeing jump cuts that
we don't notice them any more, and we play along with the director and
fool ourselves into seeing a single, smooth action.

Another trick: in the scenes where John Conner was being chased, he was
not riding the XR-80. There was a fancy motion rig (perhaps the "cage"
that the article Alex quoted was thinking of) fastened to the bike, and
the kid just sat there while a crew moved the bike from side to side
while the whole rig drove down the LA River. If they'd shown the XR's
lower half, you'd have seen the support mechanism.

But then I don't know why anyone would expect realism in a movie that
dubbed 2-stroke noises in for a 4-stroke like the XR. :-)



PS, Arnie really did shoot all those cops in the leg, I heard it on the
net.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Blue Ridge Parkway
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:00:09 GMT

In article <11277@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher (egreen@East.Sun.COM) wrote:

><parts deleted for brevity>

>  Not only does the name change, but the Northern most part (Skyline
>Drive) is a toll road.  If you are driving North on the Parkway either
>get off at I-64 near Waynesboro or be ready to pay toll. 

Specifically, the toll is $5.00 for cages and $2.00 for bicycles.  Depending
on who's in the booth, what you ride, how nice you are, and time of month/
phase of moon/tightness of underwear (used or new), you may be charged either
rate.  I've always gotten on it for $2.00 -- but I ride Japcrap.

And the speed limit drops from the BRP's 45 to Skyline's 35 mph in the park.

>: ....[cop] pulled across both lanes and made a 3-point turn
>: IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD to turn around and go after them.  the bikers
>: following nearly T-boned him).
>He was just trying to keep our emergency braking skills sharp. :-)
>Right Cliff?

I've adjusted the rear brake since then: it lights up without engaging the
brakes for the first (big) bit of travel, for enhanced safety and less chance
of repeating the foam-and-vinyl enema episode.

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|   Cliff Weston            DoD# 0598       '92 Seca II (Vessel of Doom)   |
|                                                                          |
|                   I consider....buying used underpants.                  |
|                            -- Geir Solvang                               |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chris@triage.UUCP (Groucho)
Subject: Re: New Guppie in pond wants BMW info.
Organization: Triage Corp
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:02:41 GMT

In article <2565@shaman.wv.tek.com> davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.220248.5090@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>
>>Not all beemer pilots belong to the MOA.
>
>And not all MOA members are beemer pilots.  Our own Chris Perez is a
>good example of this, but I heard he put a down payment on a K75.  So
>pretty soon he'll be a "normal" MOA member.

Not all MOA members are willing!  Some are simply "signed up" by
well meaning to totally misguided former friends.

Question: Why would any thinking person EVER wish to buy a slow, wobbling,
boring, unpassionate, over priced, orange-peeled paint, whining bike like
a K75 in the first place?  They'd have to either live in a cave, or not
have ever ridden anything else in their lives.  Therefore, the aforementioned
rumour is false.


Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
The List->  Ducatis: 500SL, 750GT, 860GT  	MINT Yamaha: RD400F For Sale
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Rule #1: Always purchase the Ducati of your dreams when she comes available.
Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
From: HF.JJS@forsythe.stanford.edu (John Stamets)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Help With V65 Sabre
Date: 27 Jan 1993 13:00:59 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Hi Folks,

I need some help and info on the V65 Sabre.

First the immediate problem; The engine will free rev
in second gear at about 5k and jump to about 5.5k before it
catches. when it does this in wet riding orduring an intersection
turn it almost breaks loose.  The rpm range changes depending on
how hard I'm pushing it.  If I am comming off a light quick it
will sometimes happen three times over the 5k to 8K range.

This is not a smooth thing, jerks the hell out of the bike.
but at this point only happens in second gear. It does not jump out
of gear.  My inclination is that it is a clutch problem.  The clutch
only starts to engage now about 3/16 " before full release.

How do I ensure it is the clutch or the gear before tearing it
apart?  I ride it every day ( only form of transport ) and want to
get the parts before I tear it open, to limit down time.

The bike has over 39K on the clock.

Thanks in advance,

John.

Also I seem to remember someone having a lot of info on th V
engines and posting an offer to E mail copies out.  Please send me
any info you have.  Thanks again.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner)
Subject: Re: really, really waterproof gloves?
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:52:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.155050.29623@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
|> Was anyone here silly enough, like me, to buy racing-style gloves in nifty
|> colours? Does the dye eventually stop bleeding all over your hands (either
|> when you sweat or in the rain)? Is there anything that one can do to 
|> prevent this, aside from wearing a liner or buying new gloves? I once 
|> walked into a bike shop after a rain storm, pulled off my gloves and the
|> salesman loked at my blue hands and said, "I see that you have Fox disease!"
|> 
|> I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
|>      got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
|>                          ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I was not silly, so I bought black gloves. My hands come out a nice dark blue
if I really get them soaked. The die does not seem to diminish as time goes on.
I also can't figure out why this die that seems to have left the cowhide
so easily refuses to leave mine without multiple scrubbings.

--
Stef            aka  spgo@is.morgan.com   DoD#0190 
'82 KZ550 (Commuter) '84 750 Interceptor (Toy) '86 Alfa GTV6 (Money drain)
                Warning: I brake for radar traps. 
        Disclaimer? I don't need no steenkin' disclaimer!
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Town Bike??
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:18:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 21597@cas.org, jdh64@cas.org (Dave Huddle) writes:
>
>Saw this misplaced article over in  misc.fittness & moved it over here where it
>belongs!!

OK, so what the hell is there about it that belongs here?!?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dormont@spot.Colorado.EDU (DORMONT WILLIAM  M)
Subject: Re: Colorado Motorcycle Show
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: co
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:09:54 GMT

coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO) writes:


>I ran across a snippit here from the Denver Post that says:

>Colorado Motorcycle Show and Swap
>Feb. 6th and 7th. National Western
>Complex. Sat. 10-8, Sun. 11-6.
>Admission $7. Info (719)836-2403

>Anyone familiar with this show, or been to it in the past?
>Sounds like a good time.

>Nick    DoD#6425    '88CBR1000   '89CBR600

Yes, this is a great show if you're a Harley guy (I am).  Otherwise,
you might not find it too interesting.  It will be about 99.9% Harley,
lots of new and used parts, and many Harleys and maybe some Indians on
display.  A cultural experience to be sure!!!

		Denny Powers
		dennyp@exabyte.com
		or c/o dormont@spot.colorado.edu

		'79 FXE
From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: Just send beer....
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:11:15 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2


>Of all the Mexican beers I've tried, I like either Tecate or Negro
Modelo best.
>If you buy it in Mexico, Corona ain't bad.  It doesn't have the USFDA
required
>'stuff' in it there and has a much better flavor, IMHO.


      This somehow concerns me. The thought of something swimming around
in me brew.



          KEN
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: aweaver@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Andy Weaver)
Subject: A taste of Texas
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:46:11 GMT

I had been neglecting my responsibility of taking soil samples, since the
last race, but Saturday I finally got my first taste of Texas this year.

I was at Dowdy and had to take a different line down the front whoop 
straight to pass a spode.  All of the whoops were filled with water,
so there were only two lines (one on each side).  I needed to get back 
across to the other line to set up for the next corner.  I carried the
front wheel over the last two water filled whoops while changing lines.
I put the front wheel down on the back side of the last one, but since
I was crossing lines, the front wheel wasn't straight and it washed out.
I was on the ground before I knew anything was wrong.  

I didn't hurt anything and I didn't even land in the last whoop.  I was only
a foot or two from being in it, I usually land in a mud hole if there is
one available, something about Murphy's law :).

Andy 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Moab '93
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:59:38 GMT

There's been some chatter on the Joust mailing list, but we might as
well do it here where it belongs. :-)

The Story So Far: Jeff Deeney and a gang of fellow Coloradans have been
making an annual Memorial Day weekend pilgramage to the Moab/Canyonlands
National Park area of southern Utah since the world was young. Last
year, a bunch of us net.types crashed his party and invited ourselves
along. Soil samples were taken, Park Rangers were terrorized, oil was
spilled, and a good time was had by all.

For some reason, folks think that a repeat performance this year is a
good idea. :-)

So far this year, Jeff has said that he's got other Memorial Day plans,
but would like to do Moab some other time. Others are interested in it
too, but there are no plans of any sort, yet. I guess it should be noted
for those familiar with the Joust, that last year's Moab was anything but
"organized". More like "see ya there". But, at least from my point of
view, things worked out pretty well.

Of course the one thing that any rec.moto.gather needs is a leader, and
so far everyone (including myself) has been VERY careful to avoid
getting roped in. Any volunteers out there?


Just a few comments on last years Moab.

I think avoiding a holiday weekend would be a good idea, mostly to
avoid the crowds of non-motorized tourists that decend on both Moab
and Canyonlands. We got hasseled by the Park Rangers for breaking a
15mph speed limit on Salt Creek that nobody knew existed. Without a
large "civilian" population, the Rangers might not feel the need to
make their presence known.

There is also a huge variety of terrain, and some it may be, umm,
"challenging" for bikes and riders of varying ability. No matter how
you slice it, some bits are going to to be too easy for some, and
unridable for others.

If there's something called "The Death Ride", it might not be
because it is deadly boring. 

Quicksand is nasty stuff!
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: eastman@bnr.ca (Gordon Eastman)
Subject: Guy Cooper (was Re: Houston Supercross results!)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:00:43 GMT

Should we spin off alt.fan.guy.cooper?? :-)

I've been impressed by Cooper since I saw him at the Montreal Supercross in
1986. Noone tries harder.

A lot of top US privateers showed up since first place paid a pound of gold
(almost $6000, way more than the AMA supercrosses pay).

There was one killer section that Cooper turned into a double. It was a 10
foot peaked jump following a tight corner. There was a long gap to the
following tabletop.

Somehow Cooper found the drive to clear it in practice. About the third
try, he hit it wrong. 15 feet in the air and he stepped off, landing beside
th bike on another section of track! No problem; hopped back on and cleared
it next time!

In his heat, he had a half lap lead and was still wide-open when he didn't
notice a lapper. You got it - he laneded on the guy! No problem - there was
lots of time to pick it up for the win.

He still tries harder than anyone and is way overdue for a Supercross win.
Hope 1993 is his year.

He isn't quite 
Gordon   1990 KX200
____________________________________________________________________________
Standard disclaimer: opinions are mine, not BNR's
From: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: RMEC Schedule
Date: 22 Jan 1993 04:09:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) says:

>Mike Sturdevant (ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
>
>: In a previous article, kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) says:
>
>: >Ok, Teem(computer)Geek, which event(s) are you going to do?
>
>: 	Any of those at the Zink Ranch? Tulsa maybe?
>
>The Tulsa race is on the Zink Ranch, on Halloween

	Halloween? Like in October? I can't wait that long, I'd burst.
Guess I'll wait to see when Jeff decides to go enduroing. Then make my
plans.


>: Go fast. Take chances.
>
>I'd love to.  Got someplace that ain't covered in snow to try it at?
>
	Nope, why is that stopping you? I've been mountain biking in six
inches the last couple days. Last weekend when it was muddy (not frozen)
I took the new four wheeler ( a Xmas present) out on the mini bike track.
Totally sideways and cool.
	Don't let the weather get you down, just go out and "flick
the bitch" (E.L.)






-- 
Go fast. Take chances.

	Mike S.
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:10:34 GMT
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt

bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Abscess makes the fart go HONDA) writes:

>Has anyone here homebrewed a ramp that they can easily carry in their
>truck that lets them ride/walk a bike up into the back of their
>pickup?  

   I made a ramp out of a 2' x 8' piece of 3/4" plywood with a couple of
8' 2x4's screwed to the bottom of it.  I made it that wide so I could
walk the bike onto the truck.  So far it's supported a Concours and a
VR750 along with riders with no problem.  In both cases it was much
easier to ride the bikes up into the bed of the truck than to push them.
Backing down the ramp, however, was done manually. :-)

   BTW, I left about 3" of plywood overhanging the 2x4's so I could put
the plywood only lip over the tailgate and not have a high lip to go
over.

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder

ps.  Sorry for the last copy/post-clubfingers strike again.
From: johno@cs.umbc.edu (john olszenski)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: XR250 - Opinions
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:20:34 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Computer Science Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: algol.cs.umbc.edu

Hi, I'm thinking about buying a XR250. I would appreciate any opinions
anyone might have on this bike.

Thanks 
johno


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
From: hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner)
Subject: Re: Moab '93
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:31:10 GMT
Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.1]

Dances With Bikers (blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com) wrote:
: oil was spilled

get it right Blaine, i SWALLOW.

slurp, yum,

-- hesh
From: oconnor@eng.umd.edu (Mark O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: Re: bultaco spares
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:07:43 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: coffee.eng.umd.edu
Originator: oconnor@coffee.eng.umd.edu


Merf said:
>Shirley you jest?

Hey, don't bring Shirley into this...
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.dirt
Subject: New Thumper ?
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:40:29 -0500
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Alumni External Account

Hi,

	It is now time for the XT's retirement.  What do you think would be
a good replacement ?  I'm considering that '85 Suz SP600,
or possibly an early 80's XL.  How do you think they compare ?

	What bothers me about the early 80's 600's is that it seems like
they would suck on trails.  But perhaps not so bad on the road and in
gravel.  Maybe 350 or 250 is more like it.

A man without a thumper,
Rob
--
   Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
          Systems Engineer - AEG Automation Systems Corp.
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon)    AMA 642916   DoD 0593   FSSNOC 1721   '87 KDX200 (Moose)
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:04:00 GMT
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA