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From: linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Word Processors (Was: General suite of apps)
Organization: NCSU CATT Prog  
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:53:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.133534.5486@convex.com> bros@convex.COM (Andrew Bros) writes:
>  By the way, does anyone know why I can't make a program manager
>entry for my MSDOS Word under OS/2 v1.3?  When I create a new object
>in my DOS applications group, I enter the path for the executable, and
>the Program type removes "DOS Full Screen" from the list of options.
>I haven't had a problem creating entries for other programs:  Quicken,
>QPro, Turbo C++, DOS VGA games, etc.  Is it an attempt to get me to
>upgrade to MS Word for OS/2?  Not bloody likely!

I have an older version of MS-Word for DOS.  I think the reason that the 
Desktop Manager under 1.3 is removing the "DOS Full Screen" option is that
Word for DOS is a 'bound' app, meaning that it runs as a DOS app under DOS and
as an OS/2 app under OS/2.  Try installing it as an "OS/2 Full Screen" program.
I think that should work.

John W. Linville



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From: dzoey@eng.umd.edu (Joseph Herman)
Subject: Re: Windows enhanced mode
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 00:41:43 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College of Engineering, College Park, MD
Keywords: OS/2, network, windows enhanced mode

In article <1992Apr15.142231.15169@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> bradleyt@caesar.ucs.indiana.edu (T.C. Bradley) writes:
>I have another win3 application that requires Windoze enhanced mode to
>operate.  It is a network application from David Systems for
>monitoring 10BaseT ethernet concentrators.  Anybody have any ideas for
>"tricking" such a windows app to run under OS/2?

I do not know for sure (I shouldn't be saying anything then, but this is
usenet, where guesses are good for something) but I suspect that it requires
enhanced mode windows to give it access to the Kernel DPMI routines and
to hook virtual interrupts.  I don't know of a comparable system for
OS/2 but I imagine there is one.  Unfortunatly it's probably not windows
compatible.  If I had to guess as to the reason fractint for windows
requires enhanced mode, I'd say it's because it uses the 32 bit library.


				Joe Herman

dzoey@terminus.umd.edu

-- 
"Everything is wonderful until you know something about it."
From: max@underg.UUCP (Max Cray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS2 and Stacker.......
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 21:16:57 EDT
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation

tazzzzz@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor) writes:

> One question I have though is: has anyone seen a GA copy of OS/2 2.0 yet?
> Are the packages truly going out the door?

I saw some at the local IBM office when I watched the Comdex rebroadcast. 
Unfortunately they would not sell me one. :(

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 14:34:43 EDT
From: Jeff Wolfe <JTW106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 I've got mine!

>In article <1992Apr6.165231.12914@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
>tazzzzz@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Kevin Dangoor) writes:
>>One question I have though is: has anyone seen a GA copy of OS/2 2.0 yet?
>>Are the packages truly going out the door?
>
>>...Kev

I called 800-3ibmos2 Yesterday, and checked. The response from the rep was:
"I can't tell you exactly where it is, since it is in processing, but I know
we are shipping as many as we can as fast as possible."

I went further and asked what type of shipping was being used, the response
was 5-day ground. (or, as my friend would say: "UPS-reverse-gear")

There is no option for UPS red or FedEx.

-Jeff
From: olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: upgrading from Windows to OS/2 apps
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:28:36 GMT
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway

I do not know what is official MS policy, but I have upgraded from
Windows to OS/2 versions of both Excel and Word and have paid the
ordinary upgrade price.

Both Word perfcet and Lotus (Ami Pro) have announced OS/2 versions,
but I do not know when they will be available.

I use 1-2-3/G from time to time, and like it. But I am no advanced
spreadsheet user. But 1-2-3/G has often been referred to as the most
advanced spread-sheet available.

Olav Torvund
Oslo, Norway
Olavt@jus.uio.no
From: MRH100S@ODUVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: WordPerfect & LAN questions
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:47:34 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University

My partner and I are the first people on site to run OS/2.  Everyone else
in the site is DOS based on a Novell LAN.  Our site standard word processor
is Word Perfect which is run off the LAN.  The OS/2 stations are expected to
be connected to the LAN within the month.

Being new to this, I have some questions.  (sorry if they're dumb)

1)   What will WPOS/2 do for us that WP for DOS won't?  Would any functionality
     be lost by running the LAN server's WP under the DOS window?

2)   Are WPOS/2 documents compatible with WP for DOS documents? (we are using
     FAT, not HPFS)

3)   The OS/2 LAN requestor doesn't care if the server is DOS-based, does it?

4)   Will OS/2 apps and DOS window apps print the same way?  How will it work?

5)   What would be the compelling arguments (if any) for either path of action?

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: slumos@smokin-joe.cs.unlv.edu (Steve E. Lumos)
Subject: Re: Need help finding an IBM rep with a brain.
Reply-To: slumos@smokin-joe.cs.unlv.edu (Steve E. Lumos)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 21:13:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.060624.7843@engr.uark.edu>, sab@engr.uark.edu (Steve A. Breuer) writes:
) The "800" number that you mentioned is for ordering OS/2, why would you
) expect those people to know anything about Comdex?  I think that your
) girlfriend should of asked a few questions when she won the copy of
) OS/2 - like when to expect delivery and what number to call to check
) on the status.  To be fair, you wouldn't have this problem if you asked
) a few questions up front.

I had heard that the 800 number was for orders and customer questions. Is 
that wrong? Wasn't this a customer question? To tell you the truth, I didn't
really expect them to know what Comdex was (didn't really care), I expected
them to type in a name and get the status of the shipping of the package.

BTW, we DID ask when we should expect delivery, they said 'As soon as 2.0 is
released before the end of the year.' Any other questions?

) Even though your subject line takes a stab at the very people you expect
) to help you with your problem, I'll try to find you an answer.  I can
) post your append to an internal IBM forum and e-mail you the results.
) By the way, I happen to be an AIX Systems Engineer that also likes OS/2. 

OK, so I was mad. Considering that they didn't give us any kind of receipt
or anything. They did call us about a month ago to verify our address, so I
know that it is out there somewhere. If you can help, thank you.

TTYL - Steve
-- 
Steve Lumos - slumos@cs.unlv.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: ignacij@meishan (Ignacy Misztal)
Subject: F2C libraries for 32 bit OS/2 2.0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:02:19 GMT

I am looking for 32 bit libraries to the Fortran to C converter (F2C) that
would work with the EMX 32-bit C development system. 

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1207 W. Gregory Dr.
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Organization: European Academic Research Network
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 10:20:55 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS2 and Stacker.......
 <1992Apr5.012233.4365@zip.eecs.umich.edu> <2321@accucx.cc.ruu.nl>
 <1992Apr7.193331.25980@hemlock.cray.com>

Stacker for OS/2 should come out this summer, according to their
announcement. It's a great boost I would say, since so many people
were asking for it.    -turgut
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 compatability...?4?
Keywords: os2, DOS, windows, device drivers
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:13:41 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <29EB70D2.2407@ics.uci.edu> lnovell@ics.uci.edu (Les Novell) writes:
>  I recently upgraded my system to a UTRON 486-33 with AMI BIOS dated
>June 6, 1991. I read that version 2.0 of OS/2 (which I've ordered, and
>am patiently waiting for) will need an updated bios chip...
>(one where the serial number at bootup ends with a -A and not a -8)
>Is it true that I will need to upgrade the chip? Are there possiblities
>OS/2 will not like my actual motherboard and that will need to be replaced?
>I am having a little anxiety about this subject. I know IBM guarantees
>to fix any problems if possible. . . but has anyone yet had an experience
>where OS/2 just won't work with their system? I'd like to hear any horror
>stories (and good ones too)...

No.  I know of no AMI BIOS that is incompatible with OS/2 2.0.  The
AMI BIOS glitch applied to an old beta version and nothing else.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sab@engr.uark.edu (Steve A. Breuer)
Subject: Re: Need help finding an IBM rep with a brain.
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:06:24 GMT

slumos@lil-ed.cs.unlv.edu (Steve E. Lumos) writes:


>I'll start from the beginning:
>
>At Comdex (Fall/91), my girlfriend won a copy of OS/2 2.0 at the main IBM booth.
>Today, I told her it might be a good idea to call 1/800-3-IBM-OS2 and ask them
>what the status of the package was. The answer went something like this:
>
>What is Comdex? <operator then puts her on hold and goes around asking other
>people what Comdex is> I think that you will have to talk to the people in
>charge of Comdex [yeah, right], I don't know anything about that.
>
>Now, I'm not flaming IBM for hiring dumb operators, everybody else does the 
>same thing after all. I would just like to know who I might be able to call to
>get a report on the status of our copy. I haven't gotten around to sending in
>my upgrade form for 1.3 ==> 2.0 because I was sure that we would get the verison
>that she won at Comdex long before we would get the upgrade.
>
>Thanks - Steve
>-- 
>Steve Lumos - slumos@cs.unlv.edu

The "800" number that you mentioned is for ordering OS/2, why would you
expect those people to know anything about Comdex?  I think that your
girlfriend should of asked a few questions when she won the copy of
OS/2 - like when to expect delivery and what number to call to check
on the status.  To be fair, you wouldn't have this problem if you asked
a few questions up front.

Even though your subject line takes a stab at the very people you expect
to help you with your problem, I'll try to find you an answer.  I can
post your append to an internal IBM forum and e-mail you the results.
By the way, I happen to be an AIX Systems Engineer that also likes OS/2. 

Steve
*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*
Steve A. Breuer    IBM - Fayetteville, AR    Internet: sab@engr.uark.edu 
University of Arkansas - Computer Systems Engineering Department Alumnus
IBM Internet: sbreuer@dalvmic4.vnet.ibm.com (501)444-1182 (T/L 734-1182)
From: dwl@watson.ibm.com (David W. Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: IBM TCP/IP 1.2 for OS/2
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:07:37 GMT
Reply-To: dwl@watson.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

I've re-created 1 and 2 and sent the trap information off to the
folks in Boca. If you want to send me a the contents of the trap
screen you get from 2, I'll pass it along as well.

David W. Levine      -- IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
dwl@watson.ibm.com   -- (914) 784-7427 

My Opinions, IBM's hardware. -- 
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.apps:1530 comp.os.os2.misc:11021
From: pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Questions!
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:56:12 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies



	I have some questions about OS/2.

1)	Can I use the Norton Backup for Windows that comes with NDW 2.0?
2)	Can I use the Norton Anti Virus software on OS/2?
3)	How do viruses or can they affect OS/2 and HPFS?
4)	Does OS/2 support the Sound Blaster?

	Thank you!

				Jesus Rodriguez
				pr@umiacs.umd.edu
From: rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: OS/2 upgrade and Egghead
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:52:44 GMT
Reply-To: rem@buitc.bu.edu (Robert Mee)
Organization: Boston University


Last summer I purchased OS/2 v1.3 from Egghead 
(locally, special order) and I recently received 
the upgrade form from IBM. Anyway the form says 
that the 'IBM Authorized Dealer' should sign and
stamp a section of a form. Is there anybody out 
there in this situation who was able to get egghead 
to do this? How about those who mail ordered a 
copy from Egghead? Are those people orphaned?

Thanks for any info,
Rob
-- 

Robert Mee     Boston University Information Technology      (rem@bu-it.bu.edu)
From: "stephen dawson" <stephen.dawson@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: windows 3.1 apps don'
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:27:00 EST
Reply-To: "stephen dawson" <stephen.dawson@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Sandy Rockowitz writes

SR>I certainly hope that OS/2's Windows support allows both 3.0 and
SR>3.1 apps to run.  (Perhaps a settings item for WPS desktop

As far as the application knows, the only difference between Windows
3.0 and 3.1, is the addition of a few additional API calls in the
later. These are mainly to support pens and other I/O devices. It
will take some time to see apps that require 3.1.

By that time IBM will  have CSD's out to support the new apps. At
Comdex, the Blue Ninja showed a beta system that had 3.1 support 24
hours (!) after the release of Windows 3.1.

    STEPHEN
    ^^^^^^^    :-)  Look through the Windows and you will see OS/2!

 stephen.dawson@canrem.com
 Entered 04-12-92 at 1:17pm in Downsview, Ontario

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier)
Subject: Re: OS2 and Stacker.......
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:53:04 CDT

In article <92099.102055TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET> TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET (Turgut Kalfaoglu) writes:
>Stacker for OS/2 should come out this summer, according to their
>announcement. It's a great boost I would say, since so many people
>were asking for it.    -turgut

Over lunch Gordy Miller and I were wondering how this will work in OS/2.
Will Stac support HPFS?  If yes, how?  If no, might be problems to lose
HPFS facilities like long filenames.

Anyone know?

Bert Moshier
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Your views on OS/2, please
From: ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:40:37 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

Ah ha!
This must be the place!!

Me: Windows hater.
    MS-DOS user since v1.0, currently holding at 5.0.
    Eager to inject new life into my war-weary 386.

Is OS/2 2.0 the answer?
The messages here have certainly piqued my interest, but a few basic
"BENEFITS/DRAWBACKS" would be nice, if anyone feels so inclined.  (Convert
me! Convert me!)
                                        __
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Tom Tullio                            / / / 2                   The face of a
Wesleyan University                  / /  \           child can speak volumes.
----------------------------*       / / /\ \      *---------------------------
TTULLIO@WILLET.WESLEYAN.EDU         \_\/\ \ \       Especially the mouth part.
                                         \_\/
From: fell@sol.UVic.CA (Stuart Fell)
Subject: Re: upgrading from Windows to OS/2 apps
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:08:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.101506.2043@hemlock.cray.com> bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.034206.19531@news.Hawaii.Edu> tholen@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes:
>>Stuart Fell writes:
>At COMDEX, DeScribe said the product will ship July.  It is complete but
>they want to want for the final 32 bit C Set/2 compiler and do one
>complete test cycle.
> 
>BTW, DeScribe had a handout comparing 32 bit DeScribe's performance against
>Word for Windows 2.0.  I don't have the handout with me but when I get a 
>chance (over the next several days) I'll post it.  I remember one where
>WfW 2.0 took the entire chart (eg: 60 second) and 32 bit DeScribe was way
>at the bottom (eg: 7 second).

Yes please post it.  I would like to see the data.....

Performance is great, but how functional is it?  Does it have many of the
features of W4W 2.0???
 
>During the IBM show of OS/2 2.0, they had several Vice-Presidents, CEOs,
>Presidents, etc., talking about the performance improvements OS/2 gives
>over Windows and/or DOS.  An example is MCI (from the Press briefing):
>Under their old system it took between 20 and 30 seconds get retrieve
>a customer's record.  Using OS/2 and its multitasking abilities reduced
>this to 7 seconds.
> 
>An executive told how OS/2 2.0 permitted them to get proposal out quicker
>and respond to customers faster.  The bottom line:  OS/2 2.0 provides
>a competative advantage over the competition.  Hopefully, they won't go
>to OS/2 2.0.

Sounds good.  I'm looking forward to gettin my copy hopefully within a couple
weeks.....
 
Stuart Fell
From: amund@itk.unit.no (Amund Skavhaug)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: DOS Device drivers for Windows 3.0 apps under OS2?  NFS under os2? X11R4?
Keywords: os2, DOS, windows, device drivers
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:00:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: ugle.1992Apr8.100003.6790
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology / SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway

I used Xvision and windows myself previously. IBM's tcpip package for OS2
 gives you 10 times the power and ease of use at half the price of these
dos/windows combos.
(2 days ago I made a little test, mounted a NFS disk from another PC to mine,
from there I xcopied a subdir repeatedly , non-stop from a batchfile under dos.
(By the way I ran coreldraw under windows at that PC...loaded from mine first)
On my own PC I copied this same subdir continously between to local discs.
At the same time I run the Xserver, an Xterminal and a Telnet to a Sun station.
And Pinged the SUN machine continiously from a command window, and ran
Matlab386 , and Maple V in a window from a NFS disk I mounted on a SUN, and
run PM-CHART,and PM-CHESS....and formatted a 1.44 floppy.
And ran Word Perfect 5.1 for dos, which i wrote an article inside when all these
took place. All apps were doing work, eg I started demos , benchmarks and
so on. All things went smoothly, though I had to use WP fullscreen to avoid
any keystroke delay when writing.
(By the way, did also print to a postscript file in the bacground from WP
while writing, and made a printscreen in colour of the desktop to my
OKI colour pin-writer....)
-- 

Regards, Amund Skavhaug

Division of Engineering Cybernetics	: Phone +47 7 594376
The Norwegian Institute of Technology	: Fax   +47 7 594399
N-7034 Trondheim                        : Email amund@itk.unit.no
NORWAY
From: mmtl@hobson.cc.flinders.edu.au (T.Lampre)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Databases for OS/2
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:13:35 GMT
Organization: Flinders University

In article <19920409.091340.253@almaden.ibm.com> ian@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>In <1992Apr9.150503.13164@acsu.buffalo.edu> MIKE CARGIAN writes:
>>I am currently thinking of moving to OS/2 and would like to know
>>what relational databases are out there for OS/2.
>>
>>Thanks in advance....
>>
>
>Part of IBM Extended Services is a relational database manager.  This
>used to be part of the OS/2 EE offering for 1.x
>

What is contained in the ES DBMS? Does it have application tools
(forms, report writers etc) or is it just a server engine?

Oracle is also available for OS/2 and from a recent copy of Oracle
Magazine they seem fairly excited about v2.0. It also contains some
pretty good development tools (except ReportWriter ugh!). We use it on
our AIX machines here and I would love to have it at home. It is a bit
pricey though.


--
Trevor Lampre
MIS Unit
Flinders University of South Australia
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: General suite of apps
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 19:44:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
: 
: >In practice the only DOS app that I can't make work is the MKS Korn Shell.
: 
: I have both the dos *and* the os/2 version of KSH running under 6.304.
: What problems do you have with ksh?

My DOS version is useless, it starts up but as soon as I try to execute
any command it dies with a "memory allocation error" and locks the window
tight.  Can't kill it, just minimize it.  My old OS/2 beta with HPFS
seems to work fine.  I wonder if they are still thinking about OS/2.
I'm not sure what is going on there.  The last time I had any contact
(a couple of months ago) I had to kick shins to make them believe I
was in the beta (only three years worth).  Seems the proof was on me.
A new MKS.  Haven't heard any more.  I think maybe their pricing is 
puting them on hard times with the comptition from Hamilton and all
the PD stuff that pretty much does the same.  I think that if they
priced it at $50 instead of $300 and got it on some shelves they would
sell 10 times as many but they don't.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
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