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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Other ways to access this group?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:19:19 GMT

A person in rec.arts.theatre who has no access to internet wishes to
have a look at this group but of course can't.
If there is a site that handles this sort of thing (rec.arts.theatre has
theatre@world.std.com, for instance), Either mail or post it because he
sounds lonely out there in theatreland . . .

Tim Pickett
From: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Lion King
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney) 

To: chenry@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (catherine.b.henry)

CA>I have seen some talk in this group about "The Lion King" -- can anyone
CA>give me an approximate story line? I and my kids were just wondering what
CA>it was about.

I, too, have been trying to find out more about it. So far, all I know
is that it centers around "Simba", a young orphan lion who is "heir to
the throne" as it were. His uncle is supposedly the (a) villain.

This has spawned lots of "Kimba The White Lion" comments.

On another net there has been an announcement that The Lion King has
been dropped in favor of a Tim Burton stop-motion film, The Nightmare
Before Christmas and that Pocahontas will be the next Disney animated
film, in 1994.

I posted a question here about this a couple of days ago but haven't
heard anything. Maybe the net ate it...

TO ALL:

Anybody heard anything about this?

How come no one from Disney ever posts here?


 * SLMR 2.1a * Coming Soon: Kimba meets the Pink Panther
From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Retired Animator Question
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:09:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>A few days ago, someone posted about a retired Disney animator 
>who comes back to the WDW/MK a few days a week to draw 
>characters.  I believe that this was listed with a bunch of 
>free things to do.
>
I posted about the retired animator a few weeks ago.

>My question is, who is this gentleman and where does he do his 
>artwork?  Who, at the MK, will be able to tell me if he will 
>be in the park that day?
>
His name is Harold Holt.  I talked to him for a few minutes 
while he was detailing my picture.  He told me that he was hired
by Walt back in 1936 to work on Snow White.  He said that the 
last picture he worked on was Jungle Book.

He can be found in the building that formerly housed the Walt
Disney Story, located just to the right side of Town Square as 
you enter the park.  

As far as knowing his availability and schedule for the day, I 
would recommend going in and asking someone inside the building.
There is a gift shop inside (of course), so someone will always 
be there to talk to.

>Thanks in advance for your help!
>
No problemo.

>BTW, when, in your opinion, is the better time to visit WDW?  
>March or May.  Also, what is the name of the other disney guide 
>book, not the Birnbaum book.

There is a plethora of guide books about WDW.  I would recommend
a trip to the library first.  The best book that I found was one
that I had never heard of before (and unfortunately can't
remember the title of anymore).  Next trip down, I'm going to 
the library first!  
-- 
Russ
bd670@cleveland.freenet.edu
Remember-any advice that I give you may be worth exactly what
you paid for it.
From: jcichock@ep.ieee.org (J Cichocki)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: BatB Logo
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:37:56 GMT
Reply-To: jcichock@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY

I was just wondering why the folks at Disney decided to change the logo for Beauty and 
the Beast. The original logo had Beauty in a script font and lavender in color. The Beast logo was two-toned blue and brown sort of roman looking and all caps. The movie has it this way, but all the marketing stuff has a different logo with all the words
in pink and purple mix using upper and lower case. I wonder why the sudden change at
the studios. I have been wondering about this since the movie came out I went on a
shopping frenzy and noticed the difference.

Jeff
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:38:42 EST
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The Big Red Boat qustions

My husband gave my son and myself a cruise for Xmas, actually for all 3 of us.
My son is going to be 5 the end of April.  We want something that will be
fun for all of us.  We are considering taking Disney's Big Red Boat cruise
for 4 days, on the Oceanic, and spending a few extra days in Orlando.

I would love any advise, dos and don'ts regarding the cruise, everything
from time of year to go, room, food, activities, tours, etc.

We are thinking of going the last week in April, last year we spent
an entire week at WDW at the end of April and loved it.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Joni Snyder
The American University, Washington, DC
JSNYDER@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Question about the Mouse
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:06:49 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu

The other day it was mentioned that Mickey's birthday was Nov. 18.

What is it about Nov. 18 that makes that date Mickey's birthday (i.e.,
was Steamboat Willie first shown that day).

In the grand scheme of the universe, this is probably not all that
important a question - but I'm curious about the answer.

THANKS


--
We must acknowledge once and for all that the purpose of diplomacy
is to prolong a crisis.
    -- Spock, "The Mark of Gideon," stardate 5423.4.

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
From: gds@crosfield.co.uk (gary stamp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Typhoon Lagoon
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:02:34 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

While we were at WDW last year, we visited 'Typhoon Lagoon'.

Another family sitting close by, were asking each other how the wave generating
system worked. None of them could answer. 

So, as I am about to return this March, should I find the same family still
arguing over how the wave is produced, I turn to this group for your 
suggestions such that I can put them, and every one else seated around, out 
of their misery.





-- 
  Gary Stamp	    ___               .__		  The light at the end
Crosfield Elec     / __ __  __        \  /_ __  __  _	     of the tunnel...
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From: guthrie@nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie)
Subject: Re: 1st day DL open till midnight?
Organization: Rockwell International
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:07:19 GMT


Disneyland is open until midnight every sat and sun even
during this time of the year.  I called yesterday and got
right through.

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: BatB question
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:56:15 GMT



I have recently seen Beauty and the Beast again several times, and 
have noticed something that continues to bug me and was wondering
if anyone has any ideas about it.

At the beginning of the movie, we are told that the rose will bloom
till Beast's 21st birthday. When he is turned into the beast, he
already has the picture of himself with long hair painted and hanging.

Later on, during "Be our Guest", Lumiere sings "10 years we've been
rusting, needing so much more than dusting..." etc.
Implying that they were transformed by the enchantress 10 years ago.

This would make Beast about 11 years old at the time. He doesn't 
look like an 11 year old in the painting. If he is an 11 year old prince,
then where are the King and Queen?

Also, why aren't we ever given a name for him other than beast? Have
you noticed that he and Belle are never introduced to one another?

Oh well, despite the flaws I still love the movie.

Rodney Boles
From: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM (Michelle Donat SE Chicago Loop )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Villains (Was: Aladdin: Oh Baby!)
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:45:47 GMT
Reply-To: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: theloop.central.sun.com

Sure... The Sheriff of Nottingham, and Prince John are both out and about, usually in the MK, or
in Great Britan in EC.
---

Michelle Donat
SE Chicago Loop
michelle@sunloop.Central
312-855-9530
From: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM (Michelle Donat SE Chicago Loop )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Video Releases
Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:58:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: michelle@theloop.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: theloop.central.sun.com

I'm not sure about the (in)famous restorations.... I have a copy of Pinocchio from the first
release on video (I had a Beta in 1985).. and it looks awful... streaks and scratches and muted
colors.... I also have some stuff from the Disney Channel where they used some stuff from 
Fantasia, and the standalone Sorcerers Apprentice. (sp)... And I have compared them with 
both my Beta and VHS copies of the restored Fantasia, and there is a quantum difference in
the colors, shading, shadowing, etc.... When we went to see Pinocchio in the theatre, the copy
that the theatre had was stunning. I also wonder how many people did what I did when
Fantasia came out- Ihave 4 copies 2 VHS (regular and collectors), a Beta, and the Laserdisc,
even though I don't have a Laserdisc player yet (maybe in 1993.)

Michelle Donat
SE Chicago Loop
michelle@sunloop.Central
312-855-9530

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Oliver & Company pics at atbmac1
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:15:58 GMT

Since I've had a fair few requests for the pictures from the "Oliver &
Company" sheet music book, I chose to upload them to atbmac1.  There are
eight of them, with six more on their way in perhaps a week's time.

Site name: atbmac1.larc.nasa.gov
Path name: /pub/Graphics/incoming

(as usual, the people who manage the site will move the files once they
decide to keep them.  They may be put in a new directory, say,
/pub/Graphics/Oliver.  Experiment.)

If you need help ftp-ing, read the guide following the picture
descriptions here.

the pictures:
  oacfront.gif  The front cover, with the piano suspended from a crane and
all the animals about it.
  litter.gif    A little of kittens.  Cute.
  dodger01.gif through dodger03.gif   Dodger waltzing through NY city
streets wearing a necklace of sausages.
  perfect1.gif and perfect2.gif  Georgette the poodle in self-adoration
mode.
  company1.gif   Oliver and a girl (dunno her name; haven't seen the
film) at the piano.

the rest are on their way.  I haven't forgotten the BatB sheet music
pictures, but you've already got plenty of those at atbmac1.  I've got
another Fantasia postcard to scan (all these postcards, including the TLM
ones, aren't actually screen shots, but they are panned, zoomed, and
sometimes edited versions of screen shots), as well as a Jungle Book
postcard (a row of elephants beside Mowgli).  Have fun ftp-ing.

Tim Pickett


Tim's easy-to-learn ftp tutorial (TM) (C).

Whether or not you are using MS-DOS or UNIX, the method is the same.

1. at the command line, type:
	ftp site_name

where site_name is the one listed above.

2. you will be asked for your account name, and ftp suggests one for
you.  Type at this prompt
	anonymous

3. then it will say "Guest login OK" or similar and ask for the
password.  type your own address here.  (Usually you can type up to and
including the @ and ftp fills in the rest.)  The text won't appear, but
it's being read all the same.

4. now there will be a prompt like "ftp>".  Change to the directory where
the files are located by typing this command:
	cd path_name

where path_name is the one listed above.  You can move about the
directories just like in UNIX.  To move through your own (local)
directories, use "lcd" instead of "cd".

5. to get a list of files in the current directory, type:
	dir

to do anything locally, including a local directory listing, precede the
command with an exclamation mark (!).  lcd is the only exception.

6. to get a file, you first have to decide what sort of file it is.  If
it is text or source code, then it's ASCII and you have to set the
transfer type to ascii, simply by typing:
	ascii

If on the other hand, it is a picture, a sound sample, or other data,
its type is binary, so naturally enough you type:
	binary

7. to actually transfer the file, just type
	get filename

8. when you're finished, type
	bye

9. the files are right there in your own directory.
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Every Seven Years? (was Re: Finally found The Little Mermaid!!!)
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:57:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <C0ozKF.74q@babbage.ece.uc.edu> tmcbraye@thor.ece.uc.edu (Tim McBrayer) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.203218.15574@news.acns.nwu.edu>, 
>                        dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stephen Dierdorf) writes:
>|> 	Disney has always had a re-release schedule for its animated
>|> movies; they re-release their films theatrically every seven years. 
>
>I've heard the above quoted as canon innumerable times.  Has anyone actually
>verified this?  With 31 animated features, this would mean 4+ are released
>each year.  I'm not doubting it, I'm just wondering if it really is _always_
>seven years or if it just seems like it. :-)

It's just a general notion.  Not all of the animated features are on
any sort of reissue schedule, and the ones that are tend to be
reissued about every 6-8 years.  The Great Mouse Detective, for
example, was reissued early last year--slightly less than 6 years
from its original release.  As a side note, I think we can expect
Oliver and Company to be reissued in 1994, just before its video
release.  Release dates are tentative by nature, so I don't believe
that Disney can be very consistent most of the time.  Home video
further complicates the matter.


- Robert Cook
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:20:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.025801.16213@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>In <1993Jan9.231145.3739@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan5.012910.23048@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monas
>>h.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>

>>>16. Why does everyone persist in this idea that mermaids are *fish?*
>>>There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest that they are mammals:
>>There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest they WERE fiction.
>Oh come *on*.  Look at what happened to Amberle for saying such
>dangerous things like that (Speaking of "SPLASH", see below.)

To borrow a phrase from our favorite crab, "GEEZ MON!"  I flamed *myself*
for crying out loud!  How often does that happen around the net?
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: wallace@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Glenn Wallace)
Subject: Jungle Book down under
Summary: When you flick a fly, you sure flick a fly...
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:51:37 GMT

I was just up at the local theatre/cinema. They had a lovely 5'
tall Jungle Book freestanding promo poster. (I *WANT* it)

According to the CinemaDroids, it will be out here at Easter.

Soundtrack available on Walt Disney Records. I suspect Rainbow or
someone has engaged in a buyback campaign as I can't find a SINGLE
Rainbow brand Disney CD. (I was gunna bring a Little Mermaid and Poppins
CD or two over next US trip....they *were* US$8 here!!!!)

Of course, this means we're (as usual) behind the US. Did The Jungle
Book have a theatrical release a year before it came out on video in
the US?

Perhaps it will be released on video here in a year or so... of course,
I have my LaserDisc... I don't care! :-)

I'll still go to see it on the big screen anyway!

Glenn

Glenn Wallace (g.wallace@trl.oz.au) == A Man Without a Country
"Could you please direct me to my own reality? I seem to have misplaced
it...."
From: rebeccal@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Rebecca S. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Plot inconsistency in Aladdin?
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:38:05 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

pd@world.std.com (Peter F Davis) writes:
> In "Aladdin," Aladdin wishes to be a prince, so that he can properly woo the
> Princess.  Since the genie is supposed to be all-powerful, I assumed that he
> would turn Aladdin into a genuine prince.  However, for the remainder of the
> picture, the story is handled as though all the genie did was to dress him
> like a prince.  He keeps worrying about Jasmine's finding out that he's not
> a real prince.

That's the whole plot of the story though...BE YOURSELF!!! I mean, come on, 
IF you watched the entire movie, you wold have noticed that Jafar "turned" 
Aladdin back into a commoner in Jasmine's eyes. Alladin would have had to have
been basically re-brought up as a prince, which would have made him lose
the charm that Jasmine loved.

> 
> In fact, the genie offers to make Aladdin a prince again, using up his third 
> wish.  So what's the story here?  Did the earlier wish wear off?  Or was the
> genie just having some fun?

again, Jafar turned Aladdin into a commoner again by taking away all his
riches that Genie had given him.
> 
> -pd
-- 
-----
Becky Lawrence                |  I saw you two days ago, I saw you 
rebeccal@csugrad.cs.vt.edu    | yesterday, I saw you today, but I 
VPI & SU                      | must see you tomorrow as well....
From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Re-post of the Hidden Mickey lis
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:29:08 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
> {Listing of Hidden Mickeys at WDW/Epcot deleted}
> 
> O.K.  I'll buy this since I first heard about this in an article published in
> Disney News magazine.  However...I'm sure there's GOT to be Hidden Mickeys at
> Disneyland in California, Tokoyo Disneyland in Japan and EuroDisneyland in
> France.
> 
> So does anyone have a listing of these?  Or was it just a fluke that the
> Imagineers chose to only sprinkle them at ONE park?
> 

Well Rich, I'm sure that there ARE Hidden Mickeys ate the other parks. The main
reason why I don't include them in the list I post once a month is that I've
never been to the parks outside the USA and I only goto DL once every couple of
years. If I was E-MAILed some info on these parks, I would be more than willing
to include them in the list.

   Being that I, along with lots of others, goto WDW most often. It is much
easier to get feed-back from others and also to check out the place first hand
a couple times a year. Again, I don't want to get flamed for limiting the list
to ONLY WDW, so if I do get info any of the parks, I will include it in the
list. 

   PLEASE INCLUDE THE PARK IN THE POSTING/EMAIL MESSAGE TO ME REGARDING HIDDEN
MICKEYS. THANKS.

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From: chris@arb.uucp (Chris Chamblin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: : rec.arts.disney
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:29:39 EST
Organization: Not an Organization


=>From: reyna@devl.fnal.gov
! Has already written :
=> 
=>     I have an interesting question that has been keeping me up nights:
=> Concerning The Little Mermaid.  It seems that Ariel and the mer-people are not
=> too fond of eating fish and other sea creatures (the Sea King despises humans
=> for this bad habit).  So anyway, my question is this: After Ariel marries
=> Prince Eric, will their meals ever include fish ?  It seems that Eric's
=> kingdom is by the sea, so that the folks in general will eat plenty of fish
=> there.  What does Ariel think of this?  And how will she handle the idea of her
=> fish friends being eaten by the kingdom folk?
=>     I know that this is a silly question, but has anyone else stayed up nights
=> wondering about this very thing?


No.
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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: What is it with the Hooters?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:30:36 GMT

In article <168CE123E3.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>   I guess those clam shells on The Little Mermaid were really clam shells...
>or, since she's a mermaid, her hooters doesn't count (not strictly human
>for most of the film)... :)

Does this have shades of the old 'Are Mermaids mammals thread'?  If
no, then why did Ariel have breasts at all?  Aren't mammary glands
where mammals get their names, which also implies that they breathe
air like whales, etc...?  I have 250 more messages to read so forgive
me if this is redundant stuff.  But clams or no clams, why the
hooters?  =-)

> 
>    Junsok Yang


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Comp?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:40:58 -0800
Organization: sumax city 0093
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

since Dave's post I know that Comp had a brand new line up for its
titles, what I want to know is where the old titles went?
Which magazine now is carry Silent Mobius, Angel Paradigm?

someone else mention the break up of Kodokawa shoten, did people 
notice any different in their latest publishing?  
(Like NT Feb?)

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