HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (The Code Slinger)
Subject: Re: Why I don't upgrade my A1000 (was Re: AA Chip set)
Summary:  A1000
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:30:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.164437.18970@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner) writes...
>: [ ... ]
>: >Phil
>: >A1000 owner since 1987.
>: Robert
>: A1000 owner in '86.
>Val
>A1000 owner since 1985
>(Anyone have an A1000 from 1984?)

   Not me.  I got mine in Oct 85. I waffled a bit before I bought it :-)

>There certainly seem to be a lot of A1000 owners out there still despite
>all of the trade-in offers from Commodore.  I personally see "Insufficient
>incentive to upgrade."  The keyboard garage, though minor, is a factor.
>However, the major disincentive is the lack of upgrade in the actual
>hardware.  (Even no 2.0 on my A1000 isn't causing me to upgrade.)  Perhaps
>with the AA chipset, that will change.
> 
>However, if I have to pay $3500 for the upgrade with the $1000 credit (as
>I would have to get the A3000 25Mhz that I wanted), then the upgrade will
>be out again.  To cause me to upgrade, Commodore will have to impress me
>like the A1000 did in 1985.
> 
   Hear!  Hear!

Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders )
Subject: high density floppies on A3000T?
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Originator: kxs5829@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:14:40 GMT

	I just got my A3000T and I was wondering if there is any way to tell if
I have high(er) density floppy drives than the standard 880K.

	- Kyle

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From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: No Figs in the Apple Newton 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:26:21 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <1992Aug22.223803.19177@uwm.edu>, gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) wrote:
> rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan) writes:
> : "Only a year after Apple shelled out $26.5 million to settle a suit brought
> : by The Beatles over the name "Apple", the company may be facing another
> : fight. This years offender: Newton. Those in the industry may remember it
> : as the moniker of an upcoming handheld personal computer from Apple,
> : but the rest of the world knows it as a fig cookie made by Nabisco Foods
> : Group. Nabisco has held the "Newton" trademark for 101 years... and has
> : been known to be very protective of its rights."
> 
> 	First, Apple decides it would be fun to steal their name from
> the Beatles.  Sure, it'll be great, and it'll only cost us 27 mill.

Can you at least get your history right? Apple _licensed_ the name
from the Beatles. The original license stipulated that they not get
get into the music business under that name. They did. Apple Records
called them on it. Apple Computer claimed what they were doing was
covered by original license. AR won, AC lost. 

Notice that Apple also licensed the name MacIntosh from a manufacturer
of high-end stereo gear, though I believe they eventually bought that
name.

> Then, they say, "I know, there's this great little research place
> known as the Xerox PARC (P.A.R.C. stands for PARC ARC RC C, of
> course).  We'll steal their "look and feel", and start suing everyone
> with legs".  Of course, that was a long time ago...

They licensed _that_, as well. Xerox claimed they violated that
license, and lost.

> 	And now, they re-invent the wheel.  Or should I say, they
> stole it.  This time, they steal an entire product, the Newton, from
> Nabisco.  Didn't you know it would happen.

Nah - I'm actually surprised that Apple didn't license the name. Maybe
they didn't think of it. Nabisco probably can't get anything out of
them if the name changes before it hits the street.

	<mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jgallego@crash.cts.com (Jose Gallego)
Subject: AmiEXPO filed for bankruptcy
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:38:29 PDT
Keywords: AmiEXPO bankruptcy 


Yes, AmiEXPO has filed for bankruptcy.   

A couple of weeks ago I talked with Joe Lowry, President of the AmiEXPO shows,
and he explained that they had to file for bankruptcy because the Amiga
market has been "slow" and not profitable anymore.

I am sorry that this is happening to Amiga owners specially since I 
participated in the AmiEXPO Novice seminars in the past years.

I just hope that they are able to pick up and continue with their shows.

Jose~
From: jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How's this for a solution
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:06:43 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <66299@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt2038a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2038a gt2038a
BROWNING,CHRIS SHERMAN) writes:
>Here's some food for thought
>
>Why doesn't C= make a port of windows NT for the amiga.  I'm not say that
>we should use NT as a replacement of AmigaDOS, rather that they make an
>"emulator" that understands Windows NT commands and can make it work on
>the amiga.  Supposedly, NT is portable to many platforms and that programs
>made to run on NT don't need to know about the hardware it is running on.
>Nt programs just need to know Windows NT, and the windows NT program takes
>care of talking to the OS/hardware.  This way, programs written for NT
>would work on the Amiga with little or no conversion problems.  This assumes
>ofcourse that NT catches on.
>
>
>-- 
>ChRiS BrOwNiNg            Give me an     Georgia Tech Research Institute
>Computer Engineering      AMIGA or give  "Neural Networks 'R Us"        
>gt2038a@prism.gatech.edu  me NOTHING     ESML /EIB
 
What advantages would it offer an Amiga owner to load NT?  MS won't be able to
deliver a large base of WinNT applications, the hardware requirements for NT
are *enormous*(OS/2:AmigaDOS::WinNT:OS/2 for anybody who remembers the SATs),
and there is very little that WinNT can do that AmigaDOS can't.  Porting WinNT
will be about as successful as the porting of Unix to the Amy:  very expensive,
with very little added value.
 
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,bit.listserv.i-amiga
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: Robinson 1, Commodore 0
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:27:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug9.110145.23331@cs.tulane.edu> pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:

>|> Your little Nivenism so very eloquently expresses my gribe with CBM.  Note the
>       I hate to be a nitpick, but Larry Niven never said that. Robert Anson
>     Heinlein used 'Tanstaafl' in his book 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.'
>     We now return you to your regular Amiga Information...

You're no doubt suspecting I've heard enough on this by now :-)  Sorry, got my
space cadets confused.


-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:53:04 GMT

jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono) writes:
> I've seen CD-I in RadShacks and Sears in the Mall where I live, and the
> conclusions I came to were that if the CD-I was such a good gadget, how
> come I never hear of *anyone* buying one?  

Back when I bought my first VCR, I didn't know of any other owners either.
(Heck, it also took a while before I heard of anyone else owning an Amiga.)
It's funny you should mention this, since in the past few days I've run into
several CD-I owners.  But if they hadn't brought it up, I'd never have known.

> When it comes to consumer electronics, the Japanese are usually the leaders,
> and have licensed CD-I technology heavily, yet they have not seen fit to
> mass market CD-I.  

Seems rather obvious that they're mainly waiting for FMV.  Btw, Sony and
Kyocera began a joint venture renting CD-I players in Japan back in April.
Sony also makes a color LCD handheld player; available now on special order.

> [...] Userbase generates software, software generates userbase.  Since CDTV
> has more software, it will have a larger userbase.  Since it has a larger
> userbase out of the box, it will have more development $$ targeted for it.
 
Unfortunately, that really hasn't happened yet.  Perhaps it will if the A500
drive addon takes off in sales.  But lots of quickie software wouldn't make
CDTV into competition for CD-I, anyway.  It would take multiple sourcing,
multiple player models from companies with decent reputations, and lots
more willingness to make longterm investments on the part of Commodore.

Has this become a .advocacy thread yet?  Default followups there if so.

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu> <76703.4227@compuserve.com>
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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  LOOK, CBM IS WORKING HARD...
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:25:57 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <dej.01db@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca> dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:
>In article <34172@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>talks about anything possibly covered by the NDA.  Keep in mind that, to the
>>outsider, bogus posts done well are just as believeable as posts with actual
>>content, at least until those believed to be in the know deny or confirm such
>>rumors.

>Provided, of course, that the quality of the grammar and spelling is
>befitting a press release from CBM.  

Well, yes and no.  I'm thinking more along the lines of a true rumor.  A real 
press release from Commodore isn't what we're worried about.  If C= releases
some information to the press, then those of us in the know can usually say
at least something about it.  If someone either makes up a "list of features"
type bogus post, or does something similar from illegally obtained C= docs,
the language of the resulting post isn't necessarily good or bad compared to
an actual C= post.


-- 
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From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: high density floppies on A3000T?
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:46:28 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders ) writes:
>
>	I just got my A3000T and I was wondering if there is any way to tell if
>I have high(er) density floppy drives than the standard 880K.

	1. Take HD disk, put in drive, format.  If it shows up as >1MB in
"info", you have a high density drive.

	2. Peer in the front to see if it has the second "finger" to detect
the HD indicator hole.

	3. Open the machine and see if it says "FB 357" on the back of the
drive.

-- 
"Rev on the redline, you're on your own; seems like a lifetime, but soon it's
 gone..."  Foreigner
-
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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
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From: dgilbert@aeshq.uucp (David Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Considering review, but havn't seen any.
Summary: I would like to review, but I want to know there still is a group!
Keywords: amiga misc programmer hardware reviews question
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:43:28 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Environment Canada --- Atmostpheric Environment Service


	I am considering reviewing all the new toys I've been getting this
summer.  I like to think I put a lot of work into such posts, as they
will be so widely read.  I have not seen, however, any messages for
comp.sys.amiga.reviews almost all summer.

	Is this just a lack of people willing to review, or has something
happend to the moderator.

	Any responses appretiated.  If there still is a group, then I
should be posting within the week.

Dave.

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From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: NDAs (was Re: LOOK, CBM ...)
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:20:18 -0700
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Aug14.050038.7724@trl.oz.au>, aduncan@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Allan Duncan) writes:
> From article <34172@cbmvax.commodore.com>, by daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie):
>  
>> knowledge", they are in fact breaking their NDA.  The NDA agreements generally
>> hold you to silence until C= officially takes the lid off, no matter who else
>> talks about anything possibly covered by the NDA.  Keep in mind that, to the
> 
> I just ferretted out a NDA on the subject of "The V1.4 Project", and in
> clause 4 it mentions that it remains in place for 5 years of any
> disclosure made by C=, except for that information that 
> a) is or becomes public without your fault
> b) is or becomes lawfully known to you other than from C= or someone
> else's breach of NDA
> c) IS APPROVED IN WRITING BY C= FOR RELEASE.
> 
> Question : has anyone seen a (c), and to what extent does public sale
> imply (a) ?

Public sale definitely implies (a).  After all, it's hardly your fault that it's
for sale :-).  What I see the above statements stating (and I'm NOT a lawyer)
is that someone's recent posting of WB3.0 features is not (b) since those
statements did not become lawfully known to you because someone else breached
the NDA.  What becomes rather ambiguous to me, though, is that the same article
suddenly made the information public, implying (a).

I believe what you have to consider is not only the legality of the agreement
but also the spirit of the agreement.  It's the spirit that may decide if you
are ever trusted with another NDA again.  

-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.tech
From: thom@cs.mun.ca (Thomas Clancy)
Subject: Re: using RAD: drive with extended memory
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:53:22 GMT

<TEW105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Ok, I have a GVP Series II 030/22 with 5 megs of ram (1 meg surface,
>1 4 meg 32-bit simm) in a 2000 with 2.04.  all of the memory on the
>board cannot be used as autoconfig (I would have to buy 4 more megs of memory
>for that, so I might as well buy a hard drive and then I wouldn't need a
>stinking RAD: would I :) 
>This causes a little problem with the RAD: drive; it doesn't recover (so
>whats the point, eh?)  

Gee, I have the same setup and have NO problem creating a RAD: and having
it survive reboot (Though I am under 1.3).

Thomas
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Microsoft Support
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:21:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug17.202102.863
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > why dows the Amiga boot mac soooo much faster than a "real" mac ???
 > Why are it's screen motion So much faster. I compressed on a 68030
 > mac and had to wait for hours until  it finnished. On the amiga it's so
 > much faster !!


Well, maybe because one of those machines is FAST and the other is only
Half-fast?  ;-)



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: amuser@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Bill Sharp-Smith AUG)
Subject: Re: 040 3000T !!
Keywords: A3000-T-040 A3640
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:12:56 GMT

mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
>power usage is somewhere around 7Watts.  Now, to get this to work correctly,
>(within specs, since we do not do things outside of specs such as run a
>25MHz part at 28MHz, etc) the head sink had to have certain properties.
>Maybe future heat sink designs can make this board fit, but currently the
>heat sink required is a bit too large to fit within the A3000 case work.

>This is why the board is only being sold for the A3000T.  Now, if technology
>can solve either the power used or the heat sink size problems, I would think

I've seen photos of 68040's with a fan sitting directly on the chip.
Does the CBM board have this ? I imagine a fan would be smaller than the
equivalent heatsink.

Gary McGhee

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From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WARNING!!  Pirated escaped Directory Opus 3.50 BETA damages disks
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:41:20 GMT
	<1992Aug6.222247.2138@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

In article <1992Aug6.222247.2138@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:

   In article <1992Aug4.155347.25480@nmsu.edu> pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:

   >There's a saying in this part of the US:  trust everybody, but brand
   >your calves.  Serial-numbering your Beta copies might not be a bad
   >idea next time -- that way, you've got your leak with the first
   >pirated copy you find.

   My suggestion would be just that, but do it so that no one knew about the
   serial number but yourself; ie, any time your program shows a serial number,
   the natural tendancy of someone spreading illegal copies is to find that
   number and change it.  Now we have a new problem...

   Instead of advertising that serial number, have it in there, but only in
   such a way know to your (the programmer) self.  Or am I reinventing the
   wheel, here?  :)

Oh, that's what I meant!  It's just a little constant tucked away in
the binary, that is never referenced by anything.  Have to look at
the binary to even know it's there.

Another tradition in this part of the country is called the ``Running
Iron,'' which is used to modify somebody else's brand when you steal
their cattle...

-Joe.
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Workbench 2.1
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:47:16 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <jbellanc.046o@pdrome.UUCP> jbellanc@pdrome.UUCP (James Bellanca) writes:
>I know what the 2.1 is...I also know that it IS diskbased and there is also a
>2.1 ROM as well, though it is NOT needed to use the 2.1 software.  

No, definitely not. There was never any 2.1 ROM. WB 2.1 will run perfectly with
KS 2.04 ROM (or 2.05 only on the A600).

>  Any more questions?

Perhaps *you* should ask more questions instead of posting wrong "facts".
I chose to better delete the rest of your posting...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: nix@zombie.oulu.fi (Tero Manninen)
Subject: Re: PDKSH Startup
Reply-To: nix@stekt.oulu.fi
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:44:35 GMT


On Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:19:16 GMT,
rbm2273@ultb.isc.rit.edu (R.B. Mead ) said:

R.B.> PDKSH is a KSH-like shell that is available on "amiga.physik.unizh.ch".

R.B.> It looks very nice, but I'm having a little problem at startup. It does
R.B.> NOT automatically look for a startup script ".kshrc", etc. I tried
R.B.> snoopdos and came up empty.

pdksh is gcc compiled and uses ixemul.library which does direct dos calls
in packet level.. snoopdos does not notice packets.

R.B.> How can I invoke PDKSH for interactive use and also have it execute
R.B.> an initial shell script?  Sounds easy enough.

From looking the source you can find out that setting ENV variable to
point something, it is sourced in pdksh startup.
Mine is this:  setenv ENV "s:profile"
Also if process name starts by "-" (like "-ksh") then it sources /etc/profile
(etc:profile) and .profile.

++Tero
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