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From: vjohm@cirrus.com (Valerie J. Ohm)
Subject: Re: Finitribe Album?
Keywords: Finitribe
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.  Fremont, California
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:45:57 GMT

While I'm jabbering away on Fini Tribe...

In article <1992Aug18.142016.15081@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.192217.29987@cirrus.com>, vjohm@cirrus.com (Valerie J. Ohm) writes:
>

>|> industrial dance fare, a little heavy on the percussion.  The first
>|> album (_Noise Lust and Fun_) is a bit more experimental and slower (and I
>|> seem to be the only one around here that likes it, but then, I loved the
>|> Pigface album that everyone so violently bashes... should tell you a
>|> whole lot about MY musical tastes...). 
>
>You may be right...I don't care much for _Noise Lust and Fun_ myself!

Well, I can see why it's not very well liked since they tacked the Peel
Session onto the beginning of it, which repeats songs on the album
itself, which are already pretty lone, so it can be a bit difficult to
listen to all at once...  But if you didn't like the songs themselves in
the first place... :)
>
>|> The album after that, _Grossing
>|> 10K_ is terribly boring, IMHO, very repetetive and uses WAY too many
>|> sampes of Foghorn Leghorn (of cartoon fame). 
>
>Well, Monster In The House is great, IMHO.

Well, yeah, some of the individual tracks are ok, but I just can't
listen to the entire album at one without being totally convinced that I
myself have become a living incarantion of Forhorn Leghorn et al.
As a whole, I don't care for it..

>I just heard it the other day. Not bad, but not as cool as "101."

Definitely.  I bought "101" as an act of faith since I had never heard
it and it was an expensive import.  I was quite impressed.  "Ace Love
Deuce" is starting to grow on me in a big way as well.

>|> Does anyone know if their new album will be released in the US?  Paying
>|> $10 a pop for the singles is bad enough...

Jon Drukman sent me mail saying that it will be out in the US on Epic,
in case anyone other than me was wondering.

>Hey, at least you can find them! All I get around here are blank stares
>when I ask about the band. You mentioned a new album...is it out as an
>import now? Does(will?) it have 101, Ace Loves Deuce, etc. on it? Now
>I'm getting all excited!

I've had no problem finding the singles in the CD5 section at most of
the Tower Records stores I've been to.  

>PS: I've heard several awesome remixes of "101"...it would be nice to see
>them show up as bonus tracks on the new CD.

For some reason I fear that most of the CD will be taken up by remixes.
I hope not.

-valerie
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From: keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Killing Joke sues Nirvana
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:29:58 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Aug18.125905.16407@wam.umd.edu> loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup) writes:
>
>Anyone have any more info on this.  What I've heard is that Killing Joke
>thinks that Come As You Are sounds awfully like the Eighties.  Apparently
>they think Nirvana ripped off their song and only now decided to sue.
>What do people think about this?  Do the songs really sound that alike?

Well, as soon as I read the report about this, I went home and played
them back-to-back, and they *do* sound very similar, Eighties is just
a bit faster. However, I'm sure there are dozens of songs around which
use the same kind of riff, so what's the big deal??

I'm sure that KJ wouldn't have given a toss if "Nevermind" hadn't sold
in such vast quantities.

Smells Like Publicity Seeking..........

Keith
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From: flamengo@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lourenco William Dantas)
Subject: Re: Morrissey vs. Smiths
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:18:15 GMT

In article <19920819190336IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU writes:
>
>I've always wondered if Morrissey would have become this popular if
>it wasn't for his Smiths background.  It just seems to me a lot of
>listeners got into Morrissey because of his very popular solo songs,
>but then purchased Smiths albums and became attached to Morrissey
>because of those songs.
>
>Anyways...it'll be interesting to see what happens to Smiths and
>Morrissey after the Smiths stuff is re-released and the Best Of
>editions come out.  I still think that the Smiths would have become
>a major MAJOR name if they only had a major label backing them up.  Now
>they have that...
>
>-Hagop Janoyan
>(I can just imagine Girlfriend In a Coma being a BIG Top-40 hit)

	I'll probably shoot myself if "Girlfriend..." became a top-40 hit!

	I wonder what these Smiths releases will do. I really don't think
	a lot of people who don't know the Smiths now will get into their
	stuff and buy these albums. Plus, I don't know what these releases
	will do for Smiths fans, since they probably own pretty much all
	their stuff. 


	LOU. (flamengo@wpi.wpi.edu)
From: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Machines of Loving Grace / Trent Reznor
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:26:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095F670.BD6D1360
Reply-To: 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

In article <kbennett.713559987@milton>, kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
>Bruce.K.Johnson@dartmouth.edu (Bruce K. Johnson) writes:
>

>Lena
>
>    wondering if a second NIN album could *ever* measure up to the first

Probably not considering the fact that Trent has been seen hobnobbing with
his new "good friend" Rick Rubin.  Rumors abound that Rubin will produce the 
new NIN album and after witnessing his knob twiddling on the last Slayer, some
Queen remixes and the Danzig albums, one can only assume that the production
will be odd at best, though most likely sloppy and tinny....


This is of course only my opinion...

Justin Hoffman
2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Marquette University
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From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Finitribe Album?
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:20:16 GMT
Keywords: Finitribe

In article <1992Aug17.192217.29987@cirrus.com>, vjohm@cirrus.com (Valerie J. Ohm) writes:

|> Pre-101 Finitribe consists of a smattering of apperances on
|> compilations, two singles on Wax Trax and two albums.  The two singles
|> ("Make It Internal" and "I Want More", last I heard, both are still
|> listed in the Wax Trax catalog) and previous stuff is fairly standard
|> industrial dance fare, a little heavy on the percussion.  The first
|> album (_Noise Lust and Fun_) is a bit more experimental and slower (and I
|> seem to be the only one around here that likes it, but then, I loved the
|> Pigface album that everyone so violently bashes... should tell you a
|> whole lot about MY musical tastes...). 

You may be right...I don't care much for _Noise Lust and Fun_ myself!

|> The album after that, _Grossing
|> 10K_ is terribly boring, IMHO, very repetetive and uses WAY too many
|> sampes of Foghorn Leghorn (of cartoon fame). 

Well, Monster In The House is great, IMHO.
 
 
|> None of their previous material sounds a whole lot like "101".  I
|> thought "Ace Love Deuce" was *vaguely* reminiscent of _Grossing 10K_,
|> and I have yet to hear "Forever Green".

I just heard it the other day. Not bad, but not as cool as "101."

|> 
|> Does anyone know if their new album will be released in the US?  Paying
|> $10 a pop for the singles is bad enough...
|> 
Hey, at least you can find them! All I get around here are blank stares
when I ask about the band. You mentioned a new album...is it out as an
import now? Does(will?) it have 101, Ace Loves Deuce, etc. on it? Now
I'm getting all excited!

|> -valerie

PS: I've heard several awesome remixes of "101"...it would be nice to see
them show up as bonus tracks on the new CD.

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From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: the goth/som zine
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:55:44 GMT

the following people signed up for my e-mail goth zine, ego project number two
however, mail to them  has bounced, so if you are one of they or know them
please inform them or try to get me an alternate e-mail address, sorry for
the inconvenience

djs6015@ulth.isc.rit.edu
doullet@beach.csulb.edu
conner@quicis.queen.ca
zbrek@ucsu.Colorado.edu
kens@apple.com
eve.orndahl@astro.uu.se
mc2@vipunen.hut.fi
barnette@cardiff.ac.uk




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From: corky@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jeffrey J. Middents)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Matthew Sweet
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:12:03 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

>allie@sequent.com (Alexandra Krull) writes:

>>I am trying to find out all of Matthew Sweet's albums,
>>I have heard that he has 3, and a single.
>>If anyone can name the albums(I know Inside, Girlfriend, and 
>>a Girlfriend single), or give me any other info, it 
>>will make me very happy:-).

well, if anybody is interested, there also happens to be a song by matthew
sweet on the soundtrack to "buffy the vampire slayer," a rather interesting
album, consdiering the oddities are songs by ozzy osbourne and c+c music
factory since all the rest are by alternative bands. i don't remember the
title right now but it was actually a rather good tune from what i remember.

jeff.....

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From: vjohm@cirrus.com (Valerie J. Ohm)
Subject: Re: Finitribe Album?
Summary: older material
Keywords: Finitribe
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.  Fremont, California
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:22:17 GMT

[adding RMI to the newsgroups line since this may be of some interest
there]

In article <dennis.713749806@citr.uq.oz.au> dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) writes:
>
>Also any recommendations for pre-101 material, and an indication of the
>type of sound they had at this time.
>

Pre-101 Finitribe consists of a smattering of apperances on
compilations, two singles on Wax Trax and two albums.  The two singles
("Make It Internal" and "I Want More", last I heard, both are still
listed in the Wax Trax catalog) and previous stuff is fairly standard
industrial dance fare, a little heavy on the percussion.  The first
album (_Noise Lust and Fun_) is a bit more experimental and slower (and I
seem to be the only one around here that likes it, but then, I loved the
Pigface album that everyone so violently bashes... should tell you a
whole lot about MY musical tastes...).  The album after that, _Grossing
10K_ is terribly boring, IMHO, very repetetive and uses WAY too many
sampes of Foghorn Leghorn (of cartoon fame).  

Chris Connelly (of the aforementioned Pigface fame) used to be the
singer, but left the band sometime between the Wax Trax stuff and the
recording of _Noise Lust and Fun_, which is partially responsible for
the change in their sound.

[Vidar compiled a Finitribe discography a while back, perhaps he can
repost it?]

None of their previous material sounds a whole lot like "101".  I
thought "Ace Love Deuce" was *vaguely* reminiscent of _Grossing 10K_,
and I have yet to hear "Forever Green".

Does anyone know if their new album will be released in the US?  Paying
$10 a pop for the singles is bad enough...

-valerie

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From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Who sings "88 Lines about 44 Women?"
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:51:06 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <BsvMGG.KnJ@rice.edu> mlevi@owlnet.rice.edu (Marcel Nolan Levi) writes:
>even suggest that.  The band is called The Nails, and the only place
>I've seen the song is on a 12" with only 2 songs -- the original
>version and the "Radio version" of 88 Lines About 44 Women.
>

There was also an original 7" with the same two versions. Also, about 6 months
ago there was a rerelease 7" by (I think) Rough Trade with, again, the same
two versions. This rerelease had a glossy cardboard sleeve printed in blue
ink.
-Daniel
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From: johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson)
Subject: Re: Who sings "88 Lines about 44 Women?" 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:46:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.142910.1757@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe) writes:
>Apparently some people seem to thinkit is Trent Reznor of NIN fame, but I
>don't think so, the singer sounds English.  Is this possibly Mr. Reznor,
>a pre-NIN effort?  If not who is it?

The song was sung by the group The Nails (maybe that's your subconscious reason
for thinking it was done by Trent -- The Nails <--> Nine Inch Nails..? A far
shot, yes).  It is off of the album "Mood Swing." Great album, I recommend it
if you like Eighty-Eight Lines.

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From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Alter Images?
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:57:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: beaver.1992Aug20.215738.11887
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <170t4uINN8tn@agate.berkeley.edu> jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jack B. Huynh) writes:
>
>	Does anyone have a clue about this group? I am looking for their second


It's ALTERED IMAGES and you have asked the right person. I really do
not have the time, actually, to spread the word to those who were
either not yet born or had their heads in the sand when Altered Images
were around, but...  ;-)

albums:

Happy Birthday
Pinky Blue
Bite

US releases differ little, if any, from UK. At least not enough to
make i t worth spending months looking for a UK release. Pre-CD era,
so I don't know about CD bonus tracks.

Singles:

lots, taken from all albums. A few good b-sides, such as the
magnificent ' Disco Pop Stars'.

It was going to be called 'Dead Pop Stars' (yes, they wrote songs like
that way before Morrissey!) but just before release, John Lennon was
shot and the record company thought it was too gauche. I love that
story.

The singer is named Clare Grogan and my friends and I had our own
little unofficial fan club of sorts. She is the BEST. I won't even try
to describe her... all you have to do is listen to her brilliant,
occasionally quite serious and scathing lyrics and then compare them
with her tone of voice, and her image, which was a perky little (she
is rather short, actually) girl, all ribbons and birthday parties and
tra-la-la skipping around.

The Breakup:

I don't know how or why. One or two guys went on to form the band
Hipsway. Miss Grogan had a solo single called 'Love Bomb'. Never heard
it. :(

Clare Grogan the Actress:

She has roles in a number of movies, several of which are by the
brilliant Scottish director Bill Forsyth:

Gregory's Girl. SEE THIS!!! You'll never guess which one is Clare
Grogan 'till you see the credits at the end.

That Sinking Feeling
Comfort and Joy

...Not sure if she's in both of those. IT's been a while since I 've
seen them.

Red Dwarf

This is a British sci-fi sit-com, seen on PBS stations in the US. She
had a semi-regular part for a while.


Other Altered Images fans are encourage to e-mail me if you have any
recent info on Miss Grogan, or to discuss b-sides, or what have you.

Richard


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From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Guernica (label)
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:59:43 GMT


Hey peeps,

I recently read about this new label called Guernica, founded by Mr. 4AD
himslef, Ivo Watts-Russell. I know that Unrest's fantabulous _Imperial_ LP
is about to be issued on Guernica. Anyone else know anything about this
label? Who, what, why, when? Thanks a lot. Bye now.

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From: tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com (tim clinkenpeel)
Subject: inspiral mailing list / tour info ...?
Reply-To: tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:57:48 GMT

is there an inspiral carpets mailing list out there?  if not, i volunteer my
services as being the 'postmaster' of one.  if this is the case and you are
interested, please send me mail.  i am not subscribed to this group due to the
plethora of extremely lame threads (i.e. "bands with the letter 'e' in their
names") in (dis)proportion to useful information.  but enough peeving -- i
also want the low-down on touring plans for the carpets.  what are they up to
at present?  any dates set?  locations?
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From: sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Killing Joke sues Nirvana
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:35:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <1992Aug18.125905.16407@wam.umd.edu> loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup) writes:
>
>Anyone have any more info on this.  What I've heard is that Killing Joke
>thinks that Come As You Are sounds awfully like the Eighties.  Apparently
>they think Nirvana ripped off their song and only now decided to sue.
>What do people think about this?  Do the songs really sound that alike?

The intros do.

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Subject: The Cure in NZ
From: Richard.Edgar@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Richard Edgar)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:52:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.



The Cure played Wellington, NZ last night for the first
time in eight years. It was a pretty amazing concert and 
was quite different from both the _Concert_ and _Entreat_
albums, although you'd expect that given that Wish is a 
much more happy album than _Disintegration_ and the other 
earlier ones.

Not surprisingly they began with a full on version of 
_Open_, and ended their main set with _End_. Three 
encores followed which consisted mainly of their
older stuff and I loved it.

Here is a list of the songs they played, I think it 
is in the right order,

Open,     High,      Pictures of You,    Lullaby,     
Just Like Heaven,  Fascination Street, 
A Night Like This,  Trust,       Doing The Unstuck, 
The Walk,    Lets Go To Bed,   Friday I'm in Love 
In-Between Days,  From The Edge of the Deep Green Sea, 
Never Enough,    Cut,   End.

The Encores went something like:

Lovesong,   Charlotte Sometimes,   Why Cant I Be You,

Boys Dont Cry,  Primary, Close to Me,

Three Imaginary Boys, A Strange Day, A Forest.


I was very surprised to hear _Charlotte Sometimes_ 
and _Three Imaginary Boys_, and quite relieved too because
the half drunk school kids behind me didn't know what they 
were and stopped jumping and pushing and slobbering all over
everyone. I guess thats one of the things you have to put
up with near the front ( approx 4th 'row'). My brother 
(who only sort of likes the Cure and got his ticket 2hrs 
before the concert from a friend who is quite ill) ended
up in the front row, last time I do any favours for him.

Anyway it was a great night, the hall was packed (ie about
2500 people, we have no decent mid-sized indoor spaces for
concerts in wgtn) and I'd definitely recommend going if 
you're wondering if its worth it.

Cheers

Rich. 
 
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