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From: kennehra@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan)
Subject: Gi Joe/Transformers Crossover, guest appearance
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:59:13 GMT



Hi.  Does anyone remember the name of the episode where Cobra commander
made a special guest appearance on "The Transformers?"  Also, where can
I get this episode.  I LOVE crossover shows.

- Rich
  kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: aramsey@ugly.UVic.CA (Aaron  Ramsey)
Subject: Re: ANIMATION: anybody here actually animate?
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:22:12 GMT

In article <Bxz781.K2p@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca (Andrew Williams) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.162814.9805@ultb.isc.rit.edu> entpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>
>>I eat breathe and sleep animation, so let's talk animation!
>>
>>Erik Timmerman
>>Film/Video Department
>>RIT
>
>OK!! What sort of camera/film system are you guys using? Does anyone know
>if a video frame-by-frame camera is available for those that a) Can't 
>afford 35 mm film, b) Just can't wait to see the results etc.?

I've got an old 16 mm bolex that I've been using for a very short time.
Before that I used an really old super8 camera. I'm strictly an
amateur/hobbyist. I tried animating with my computer (an amiga),
but it drove me crazy modelling everything on the computer in 3d.
Until some sort of 3d manipulation system shows up, I think I will
strictly stick to claymation,etc....  8-)  Although that computer stuff
really did look nice after tweeking it.
>
>Do you use a textbook in your course? If so.. what's it called?
>
I'd really like to find this out too! I haven't been able to come across 
much animation literature at all.  8-(   I did find one book called
"Make Your Own Animated Movies and Videotapes: Film and Video Techniques
from the Yellow Ball Workshop" by Yvonne Anderson at the local library.
It's been helpful with a bunch of things that I've tried to do, but it's
a little small, and sometimes geared towards younger people than myself.
If there is a good textbook that I might be able to pick up, that't be
great!  8-)
>

Something that I've been having a little bit of trouble with is filters.
When do I use them? Sometimes I come out with really great looking 
animations (this is with plastercine and Liquid Foam characters),
and sometimes they really don't look that good. Sometimes the
characters just blend into the background. Does anybody know if I
can fix this with say a yellow or red filter? what shades in what
situations? I suppose that I could use drastically different colored
characters and backgrounds, but....  ;-)

Also, if anybody else is using a Bolex or similar 16mm camera... what
size of lense are you using?

-Aaron
 aramsey@ugly.uvic.ca

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Alladin for the first time
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:10:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.192116.2810@cs.wisc.edu> pimmel@eagles.cs.wisc.edu (David Pimmel) writes:
>TLM and BatB.  I don't think its box office will be as strong as Beuty's and I
>don't think it has the marketing potential of Mermaid.  Robin is absolutely 

What!??  Not the marketing potential of TLM?  First of all, what does
that have to with anything?  Sure, Disney markets everything, but I
hope that wasn't anyone's concern while making Aladdin.  Look at the
marketability of Snow White or Sleeping Beauty or Bambi...Maybe I'm
too young, but I don't remember Snow White lunchboxes or bedspreads or
Bambi pencils and posters flooding any markets around the world..Are
they any less classics than TLM? 

I know, you were just making an observation, separate from your film
opinion, but I still disagree with Aladdin's marketability.  Aladdin
is a marketing dream, especially for toys aimed at boys!  TLM
was every girls' dream, but how many 5/6 year old boys do you think you'll
see as Aladdin next Halloween?  I can't wait to see what Disney
creates with Aladdin's likeness plastered all over it, especially the
figures!  Not that I care about marketing though..=-)

>hilarious.  Jasmine and Aladdin are nice friendly character.  I wish we could
>have had more of the tiger.
>
>And one final note, why are so many Disney animation father, short, fat, white-
>haired old men with daughter who look more like their granddaughters and rarely
>if ever a wife?
>

They're more lovable that way...Although if Aladdin and BatB were live
action, I'd say the Sultan and Maurice would definitely be the same
actor! 
>-- 
>
>David Pimmel                    
>pimmel@cs.wisc.edu            

Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming)
Subject: Re: BTAS 11/16: Heart of Steel
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:20:48 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

>It was okay.  Some very nice airbrush work here and there.  Some not-so-nice
>writing, but not horrid either.

>I got a laugh out of Brenda's (sp?) car license plate: "RUR".  Extra points
>to whoever can post the source for THAT in-joke... :-)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: kennehra@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan)
Subject: Re: The DUMBEST saturday cartoon ever
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:59:33 GMT



Wait...I just thought of a better one: "The harlem globetrotters"
They had one player who had a HUGE afro and when they were in
danger, he would pull objects out of his hair to help them escape
just like the old batman did. 

for example, the harlem globetrotters are in a pit full of tigers.
So the guy pulls a whip and a chair out of his afro and tames the
tigers.  Then he pulls a grappling hook out of his hair and they
climb out of the pit.  Then in order to catch the bad guys, he pulls
a lasso out of his hair and lassos them and ties them up. 

Now THAT's Dumb! :)

- Rich
  kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell))
Subject: Re: Gi Joe/Transformers Crossover, guest appearance
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:42:17 GMT

In article <By37CB.EDs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn ) writes:
>>
>>Hi.  Does anyone remember the name of the episode where Cobra commander
>>made a special guest appearance on "The Transformers?"  Also, where can
>>I get this episode.  I LOVE crossover shows.
>>
>I believe the name of the episode was "Only Human". I don't know where you
>could get a copy of it--someone once suggested I get the "Whole Toon
>Catalog", which you can order free at (206)391-8747. I thought this was
>a really good episode, but I haven't gotten the catalog so I don't know if
>they have it or not.

Nope.  They have the Movie, they have "Five Faces of Darkness" (good story,
poopy animation), they have "Return of Optimus Prime," and I think they have
"Rebirth," but nothing between "5 Faces" and "Return of Optimus Prime."  The
third-season stuff doesn't seem to exist on video.

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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Scooby Doo etc.
Date: 22 Nov 1992 04:26:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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>Finally, I think I win the prize for remembering the most obscure and dumb
>Sat morning cartoon: Rubik, The Amazing Cube, circa 1984. :)

Didn't Rubik team up with Punky Brewster?

keith

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Sean Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: Animated CATS movie?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 22:52:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov17.214945.8957@ac.dal.ca> 01lucas@ac.dal.ca writes:
>    Anyway, I was wondering if there is any word on the animated version of 
>the play CATS.  I heard about this a year ago and I loved the play, so I was
>wondering if anyone knew if and when this will be out.  

I thought that this had been canned.  I might be wrong though.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: s7958246@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s7958246)
Subject: Re: Why no cartoons before movies???
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:39:18 GMT

  Last year, our local theatre chain (AMC) started showing old Warner Bros. 
Looney Tune shorts before movies, but it was only a promotion for Bugs Bunny's
50th Anniversary. T'was great to see them on a real live movie screen, I only
wish they had stuck with the promotion. Always got great crowd reactions.


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Christmas with the Joker
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:56:48 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

In article <abick.721878968@cunews>, abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
> I agree that it wasn't one of the Joker better moments but it wasn't that
> bad. I thought using the Christmas escape at the exact moment he said
> "...and the Joker got AWAY!" was very cute.
> 
> I also liked the idea of Joker making it an annual thing. One more thing,
> if Joker went to all this trouble "JUST" to give Batman a pie in the face,
> I can't wait until Thanksgiving! Imagine what the Joker would do to give
> thanks to God for...BATMAN!
> 
> Who wants.... A THANKSGIVING WITH THE JOKER??? (Though Turkey's are more
> Pengiun style...)
> 

I want the Batwing portion!

Crunch !  Crunch !

(Durn these infurnal new alloys!:)

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From: 01lucas@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Suggestions for a good IBM animator 
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:25:09 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I was wondering if anyone could suggest a relatively simple, user-freindly,
and cheap (yeah, right...) animation program for the IBM.  I know the IBM 
isn't a great graphics computer, but it's what I've got and I dont really
want to spend another $2000 on a new one.  Anyway, I've seen the Disney
Animator and it looked pretty good.  It's only $100 at my local conputer
store, so it might be worth it.  The only problem is it supposedly is slow
and hard to use, and I've heard that the animations take up lots of HDD space
and hog RAM when they're played back.  The other animator I've heard of is the
Autodesk Aninimator (Pro?) which is about 5 times as expensive.  It looks a
lot better, but I'm not sure if it's worth the money for a beginning amature.
Also, I don't want to get something too simple and have to buy something new 
after a few months.  Another thing I've heard about the Autodesk Animator is
a feature that lets you draw the first frame of a scene and then the last frame
and the computer will fill in the rest.  I'm not sure if this would be more 
trouble than good, though, because the computer will probably start moving 
the wrong parts of the pictures in a way I didn't want them moved...  If anyone
has had experience with this type of program, could you please give me your
opinions.

Thanks in advance!
Lucas Dambergs 
01LUCAS@ac.dal.ca
Halifax, Nova Scotia, CANADA

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: kgscharf@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Kevin Scharf)
Subject: Spider-man
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:31:43 GMT

Recently I rented a tape from a local video store of Spider-man cartoons.  However, it wasn't the old show with the cool theme song lyrics ("Spider-man, Spider-man, does whatever a spider can") nor was it "Spider-man and his Amazing Friends" (No Iceman or Firestar).  The episode on the video had a big parade honoring Captain America, and in the end Spider-man and Cap teamed up to stop the Red Skull who was going to make Cap look bad.

So the question is, is there a third Spider-man animated series or what?
 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dusk Thornwell)
Subject: Re: ANIMATION: anybody here actually animate?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:20:31 GMT

aramsey@ugly.UVic.CA (Aaron  Ramsey) writes:

>Is this group just for people who watch animations, or are there people
>here who are doing their own animations? I'm asking because I recently
>got into filming my own stuff, and want to talk to people about 
>techniques, etc... Anybody out there? Maybe I've got the wrong group
>here.... If so, sorry for the wasted bandwidth.   8-)

I'm working on design for my own short animation.  I think I'll be
practicing with loops and stuff for the next 6 months.  I'm probably
going to build my own stand (with stabilizer pegs) because I can't
afford to buy one.
 
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From: moakler@romulus.rutgers.edu (bam!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: The DUMBEST saturday cartoon ever
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:58:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

kennehra@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan) writes:


>Wait...I just thought of a better one: "The harlem globetrotters"
>They had one player who had a HUGE afro and when they were in
>danger, he would pull objects out of his hair to help them escape
>just like the old batman did. 


>Now THAT's Dumb! :)

	It's more than just dumb. Somehow, I don't think that this is
what the NAACP and other groups had in mind when they clamored for
more positive presentations of minorities on children's television.

	As far as the other shows people have been mentioning, It's
true that most anything from H-B in the 70's was truly tedious, though
I haven't seen anyone mention some of the really dreadful stuff.
Anyone for some episodes of...

The Funky Phantom
Dynomutt
Shazzan
Speed Buggy
(That show with the fat, incompetent genie who said "Yabble-Dabble!")

As for cheesy non H-B stuff, I heartily recommend USA's Cartoon
Express.  Where else could you experience the exquisite horror of
watching Sport Billy and Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch back to back?

However, to see some really awful stuff, try looking at the late-70's
to the mid-80's, when an unholy alliance of watchdogs and licensing
agents seemed to control programming and things went down the toilet.
I was worrried at one point that the networks would bet rid of
cartoons altogether.  Some "great" shows from that era:

Pandemonium
Monchihis
any of the Ruby-Spears arcade game shows
Meatballs and Spaghetti
The Getalong Gang
and the list goes on and on....
(I don't remember too many becuause even as a ten year-old I couldn't
stand watching them.)



>- Rich
>  kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.tv
From: mwdenney@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: Captain, 101 Dalmatians  (was: Re: Thurl Ravenscroft)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:29:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.114522.3227@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>Captain is the horse that lives in the barn with Sgt. Tibbs and the Colonel.
>
>This really surprised me, and I almost question it, since I was certain that
>because of the deep tones of Captain's voice that a black man had done the
>voice.

Well if Ravenscroft really did do the singing on the Grinch (and I think
we have basically determined he did) 'deep tones' is certainly the way I would
describe his singing.  The voice is *very* deep and full of feeling.  It makes
the lyrics even funnier when they are sung with such emotion.

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

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From: rgaines@engin.umich.edu (Robert A Gaines)
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets Videos
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 12:28:18 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov17.202127.17769@sco.com> jondr@sco.com writes:
>
>I am not rgaines@engin.umich.edu (Robert A Gaines).  I didn't say:
>>Stepen M. Russo
>>P.O. Box 3250 - McCormack Station
>>Boston, MA  02101-3250
>>
>>VHS or Beta: All titles, unless noted, are made available "Collector-to-
>>Collector" with No Rights Known, Implied, or Given, Private Home Use Only.
>
>my god, he's still at it.  i knew this guy years ago when he was selling
>pirate doctor who videos.  apart from the fact that most of the stuff he had
>could be had for free through the usual channels, the quality was pretty
>poor.  i don't know if he's got any better in the intervening time, but i
>thought i'd make the comment anyway.  caveat emptor.
>
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	Hi.  Me again.  (I AM rgaines, I AM writing this :-) )--I sent 
away for the three-tape set, after exhausting several other means towards
finding these episodes.  Generally speaking, the quality was pretty good--
about on a par with something taped off of cable TV.  There are a couple
of spots following where commercial breaks would go where the editing was
a tad off, but nothing serious by any means--heck, it's just 7-Zark-7, for
God's sake. :-)  Apparently this guy sells a LOT of different tapes 
(Star Trek bloopers, the aforementioned Dr. Who, old cartoons, etc.), so
I can't speak for their quality, but the BotP stuff was in pretty good
condition, IMO.

 - Rob
From: jordan@castor (Ground Chuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Aeon Flux
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:58:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Nov18.225856.20020
Organization: University of Georgia

Thanks a lot for posting this interview!

I'm really glad to see that Mr Chung's ideas about Aeon Flux were more
down-to-earth, in a way, and not as flighty and self-obsessed as some others
in r.a.a. were making them out to be. 

The film was a great piece of work, and worked exactly as he described it--
with characters and events so absurd that you don't know who is supposed to
be "good" and who's supposed to be "bad"  (He said "moral vacuum," which is
a good way of describing it, I think.)  It was a parody of action/adventure
movies, not a heartfelt, poignant statement on the depravity and ignorance
of people who enjoy violent action/adventure movies.

(I feel kind of like Woody Allen in "Annie Hall."  I've been vindicated.
For once, real life DOES work out like this.)

Chuck

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
Subject: Re: The DUMBEST saturday cartoon ever
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:15:26 GMT

In article <kennehra.722460719@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, kennehra@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan) writes:
> 
> 
> Hi.  what do you guys think was the DUMBEST saturday morning cartoon
> ever?  My vote goes to "JabberJaw" (the shark with the voice of curly
> from the 3 stooges) 
> 
> - Rich
>   kennehra@logic.camp.clarkson.edu

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From: scottw@src4src.linet.org (Scott Weintraub)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Aeon Flux 11/17: New character?
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:44:31 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

In article <BxwzwL.KM8@ulowell.ulowell.edu> bkeener@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian E. Keener) writes:
>LTV on 11/17 kind of bit until Aeon Flux... I thought it was the best
>	episode they've had all season.
>Now that it's pretty much certain that each scenario is entirely independent
>	of the others, but with the same characters, I hope they bring back
>	the second girl in future episodes... perhaps even make her the
>	heroine.  She is infinitely less clumsy.
>
>							-MetalMaster

I agree... it was an amazing episode.  Definately the best.  It actually had
a plot this time.  I hope she also comes back.  I interpretted her as Aeon's
partner but I didn't think she trusted her too much.  Otherwise, she would've
known what to do with that cork-type object that was pulled out of the closet.
I think during the episode, the blond girl fell in love with their prisoner
and decided to switch sides.  I also liked the idea that they brought out
that Aeon was a lesbian.


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