From: "H.H. Nguyen" <619070@acadvm1.uottawa.ca>
Subject:      Re: [MISC] vn-flames ???
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: 619070@acadvm1.uottawa.ca
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:59:06 GMT




>From: hho@aludra.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
>Subject: Re: [MISC] vn-flames ???
>Date: 20 Aug 1992 21:00:10 -0700
>Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
>Apparently-To: scv-relay@media.mit.edu
>
>
>:-)) Very interesting Idea, anh Ti'n nghi~ sao? :-)
>We now have:
>vn-atnp for A(n Tu.c No'i Phe't
>vn-sxnet for Sexual topics
>vn-singles for topics about love & single life :-)
>Now, here come vn-flames :_)) (vn-religion, vn-politic)
>:_))
>Then what are we going to ta'n do'c on SCV? :_))))
>Just kidding..
>
>So, how many think it is a good idea for talk.politics.vietnamese??


    I for one do.

>Will the ones who have been in the "discussion" move over to
>talk.politics.vietnamese? What if there is another "heated discussion"
>not about politics?
>
>:-))
>H.
>

    Heated non-political stuffs ?

    Then move them over to the vn-flames. Where else ? vn-flames is to
serve as a catch-all, default bag. That is the beauty, usefulness of it.
It is intended for "FLAMES", does not matter what, political, religious,
personal, etc. You name it, and you'll have got it ! And the sky is the only
limit :-))  Now, if we can catch Mr Tin Le's attention and approval ....

    Hung Ho, could you take care of the logistics of the creation
of talk.politics.vietnamese as suggested by Ran Atkinson in the
included message ? You seem to know a lot about USENET newsgroups, at
least more than I do.

    Regards,
    H.H. Nguyen



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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 92 20:49:39 EDT
From:         "H.H. Nguyen" <619070@UOTTAWA>
Subject:      [MISC] vn-flames ???
To:           scv@media.mit.edu



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From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: ****** SCV with MODERATOR ************
Message-Id: <3403@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:12:06 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC
Apparently-To: scv-relay@media.mit.edu

There are lots of country/region-specific groups in talk.politics.*
Go grep your .newsrc file for "politics" and I think you'll begin to
see what I mean.

  I'd suggest that someone post a formal REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION to
news.announce.newgroups and soc.culture.vietnamese (cross-posted)
describing the proposed NAME, CHARTER, and TOPICS of the proposed new
group talk.politics.vietnamese.  The name should not be talk.
politics.viet-nam because then someone will say that "refugee
politics" and "Viet Kieu politics" don't belong there.

  Under USENET rules, there must be 2-3 weeks of discussion before any
vote can occur, so I'd suggest that the RFD get posted soon.  Having a
formal RFD might also help focus discussion here in SCV.

Any takers ??

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil
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    Greetings,

    To complement the above suggestion, I propose another idea:
We can ask the kind and competent Tin Le to open another private
mailing list by the name of "vn-flames". Tin Le has been operating
successfully several mailing lists already, and another one should
not be too much a burden, I hope.

    The rationale for vn-flames is simple: Being humans, we sometimes
have a desire to "flame", vent our frustration, anger. (Some people are
always angry, upset, frustrated, but this is another problem.) Recognizing
this, whenever discussions get heated, let them be political,
religious, etc. we'll ask the participants to move over to vn-flames
to exercize their "rights of flaming", and their "freedom of speech"
to each other, and leave peace and decency on the SCV and/or the
talk.politics.vietnamese for the rest. Or those who feel the
urge(s) to flame can invite themselves to vn-flames.

    vn-flames should allow all levels of the human languages to the
utmost satisfaction of the participants ! Whatever a human being can
utter or write, he/she/it can do that on this forum ! If this is made
clear to its subscribers, nobody will complain. Another feature of
this mailing list over personal emails is automatic distribution
to the right audience: you send your flames to one address
and the flames will be sent to, and entertained/appreciated by
the interested parties, i.e. the right audience.

    In summary, there can be up to three mechanisms for the
discussion of controversial issues:

(1) personal emails for a small audience.
(2) talk.politics.vietnamese for political, religious etc. stuffs.
(3) vn-flames for "flaming".

    I don't mind whatever talk.politics.vietnamese, vn-flames are
going to be named. No, thank you, I don't feel any urge to
flame now :-))

    What do you think ? Mr. Tin Le, if you are reading this, have you
got any comments ?

    Regards,
    H.H. Nguyen

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