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From: davros@draco.unm.edu (Seymour Butt)
Subject:  Looking for Live Action tapes
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:48:21 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


 >>  I dont know if this is the correct place for this
 >>  so no flames please

       I am looking for live action films from japan
    that are either japanese or dubbed in english
    like dynaman, ultraman, etc.

    -ketan-

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From: akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes)
Subject: Re: Tatsuo Hara
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:03:50 GMT


You mean Tetsuo Hara.  The God of Hokuto no Ken...

-steve
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From: mab@wdl39.wdl.loral.com (Mark A Biggar)
Subject: Re: Sun Comics and Blue Sky Blue "Nestrobber"
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:18:24 GMT

One problem I noticed in "high School Agent", is that they are being lazy
about page layout.  They flip the pages so that the panels read in the right
order but then don't reflip panels that contain English signs in the background
so all the words are backwards.  I feel that that is just lazyness because it's
not that much work to do it right.

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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Bikids (was Re: Titles I gave up)
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:19:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: jrd.Bx9q7o.FCL
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center

In article <michaele.025x@nagisa.nsg.com.au>, michaele@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael J. Edwards) writes:
# Alan Takahashi (takahash@ntmtv.UUCP) wrote:
# > In article <611@nsg.nsg.com.au> michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards) writes:
# > >axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair) writes:
# > >: michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au (Michael Edwards) writes:
# > >:  >Some translations would be interesting... still not sure whether it would
# > >:  >actually help.  [I still think Bikids is better :-)]
# > >: 
# > >: I hate to break it to you, Michael, but Bikids sucks. :-)
# > >
# > >Oh come on, it ought to be popular with all those Sailor Moon fans :-)
# > 
# > Now you've got me wondering... :-)
# > 
# > What is Bikids and why would it appeal to Sailor Moon fans?
# 
# Bikids is set mostly in a motorbike repair shop.  Most if not all the staff
# are female and are bike mad to varying degrees.  The worst case is the
# youngest who dresses in that classic sailor suit with bike boots. [Now how
# could a Sailor Moon fan pass that up :-) ]  There is a lot of slapstick
# humor which makes it easier to follow if your Japanese is as non-existant
# as mine :-)  I'd like to know if her bike is for real, everything else has
# been so far...

Just because a cute girl wears a sailor suit doesn't mean it will
appeal to Sailor Moon fans.  There are millions of mangas with girls
in sailor suits.
Also I hate motorcycles..
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From: genef@netcom.com (Gene Fornario)
Subject: Re: Where?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.164929.1@draco.rutgers.edu> kchang@draco.rutgers.edu writes:
>
>	Where can I find Japanese comics in northern New Jersey area?  

I don't have the exact address, but if you can make a trip to Manhattan,
there's a Books Kinokinuya in Rockefeller Center.  They may also have a
store in New Jersey, but you would have to ask them.

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From: hsu@ecf.toronto.edu (HSU TITUS HENG-HSUEH)
Subject: Re: shonen and stuff like that
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:01:16 GMT

In article <cf0celG00Vp5A5b1sT@andrew.cmu.edu> "Curtis B. Jackson" <cj24+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>does anyone out there want to sell their weekly and monthly shonen? like
>jump,sunday,and magazine? or monthly mags like, super jump,magazine,and
>captain and champion?
>I am looking for anything that falls under this category........

I wouldn't mind unload my collection of Shonen Jump.  I think I have every
issue of Jump back all the way to about 1987.  I have to check how far they
date back to, but I have pretty well all the issues from the past 4-5 years.
I also have scattered copies of Sunday.  Included, is the issue with the 1st
installment of Ranma, with the first few pages in original colour (Great thing
to compare with Viz version of 'colouring').

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Anime/Manga Script/Translation/Script-In-Progr
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:10:29 GMT

In article <rec.arts.manga.9211101609.AA20840@darwin.sura.net>, Rafael Brown <ST101900@BROWNVM.brown.edu> writes:
> 
> 1 The script for Angel's Egg has been completed by Enrique Conty. It was
>   posted to the Nausicaa list about 2 weeks ago. It is now located at
>   listserv@brownvm.brown.edu which is site #6 on the script list.

Actually, it had been finished a few months ago, and posted about a month
ago to the Miyazaki list.  I didn't post it before because people I asked
wanted me to release the synopsis I'm STILL working on instead.  Problem
is, with my current load I won't be able to finish the synopsis any time
before January.  :-(  (Don't bother asking me for it.  Fred Leggett has
first choice on it for publication on his newsletter...)

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From: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Subject: Re: Manga gimmick
Originator: jmkaraka@c00010-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jmkaraka@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN MARTIN KARAKASH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:26:57 GMT


|>Or maybe not, but in Ameri-manga such as Twilight X and A-OK (both very
|>good titles, BTW) I've noticed the gimmick of characters wearing buttons
|>that start out as smiley faces, but end up imitating the character's facial
|>expressions in every frame. I feel sure I've seen it somewhere before, too.
|>Any speculations...?
|>

	Ummm... I know that Phil Foglio (of What's New, Buck Godot, and
other titles) has been doing it for years.  I don't know if he got it
from someone or whether he invented it.

	-john-
From: nasato@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Neil Asato)
Subject: Gunnm, fight 43 comment 
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:47:11 GMT

     I just saw a copy of Business Jump no.21,and I decided that I will
regularily make comments of the various manga that catch my interest
as they show up at the stores that I visit (They do not regulariy carry
BJ and I am not too interested in having a an order with the stores).
I do not think that I will attach spoilers to them as these comics are
somewhat old by the time I get them, and it will be over 3 years before
the translation, Battle Angel Alita, appears and anyone knows what I
am talking anyhow...

     Well, I was impressed, but then Yukito Kishiro is a good artist.
Gally has her final battle with Zaban. For those who have not been  
following the story, the author, Yukito Kishiro, seems to be exploring
biotech/nanotech aspects of augmentation. He seems to have been
heavily influenced by Giger's works (Alien(s), that illustrated
Necronimicon book, the Dark Dreams computer game [to me it is an
eerie semi-gothic techno-organic kind of style]). Zaban  used to be
like your average humanoid cyborg, more or less, and now he is this
one eyed monster who is out to get Gally.
     Gally managed to dissolve Zaban into little fragments all over the
landscape, while she was reduced to large chunks over the landscape.
Seriously, Gally will continue though I am not sure how. She definately
will not be able use her berserker body unless she can get replacement
parts. Poor Ido, looks like there will not be much left of him around.
Gally will probably go after him after she gets herself repaired, since
he is one of the few friends she has got.
     The art work was very good. The bottom of the first page with
Gally with that old revolver shows that a person can be in pieces
and still look impressive (by the way the revolver had inscriptions
on it identifying it as a a 10mm made in the USA by Smith and Wesson,
Does this revolver really exist currently?)
The last 3 pages has some nice artwork too (especially when Gally managed
to get the remains of Zaban's body in her to form wings, almost like an...
angel...)

And now for some spoilers...


In Shonen Jump Monthly on page 468 is an advertisement for Business
Jump no 24. It shows Gally with hands (and part of her neck) that 
looks like flesh (you can see fingernails, too). My guess is that
Gally did not completely purge herself of Zaban's body, and that the 
leftover took up housekeeping in her. Well, if she can overcome the
negative publicity when Zaban was tearing up the area, she can 
return to her singing career and supply her own special effects.
If she takes up her occupation as a bounty hunter, I wonder how
many criminals would just try running away instead of standing their
ground, not that it would do them much good.
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From: s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto)
Subject: Re: (WS) Tokyo Love Story: yes, it's live action
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:07:41 GMT

In article <tal691.720927908@huxley> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:

 >Hello again, folks,
 >
 >just to clarify the question about Tokyo Love Story, yes it is a
 >live action show.  I was assured by one of my friends (who's just
 >returned from Japan after a working holiday) that Tokyo Love Story
 >the TV show was based on the manga.  However, the TV story line
 >diverged (as always) from the manga story line.  Basically the manga
 >is about four school friends who are now grown up.  Two are married, 
 >the other couple estranged (I'm not sure if they are divorced), I 
 >haven't got all the volumes yet.  The story is about how they get
 >along, and the difficulties the married couple have with the 
 >estranged couple.  It is *not* a comedy, and the Japanese is ad-
 >vanced.  I enjoy it for the artwork, even if I can't #read# it. ?:-)
 >Does anyone know if the series (manga that is) is over?
 >

	Tokyo Love Story is a live action show on TV that gained one
of the highest ratings in Japanese prime time shows, since it had the
most popular actors and a storyline that was (supposed to be) good.
The TV show was in 12 segments or so, and the manga is also finished..
I personally did not like it because of the "fake" storyline, but some
people I knew liked it... I guess it all depends on the taste.
Actually, I do not like any of Saimon Fumi mangas...to me, they are
all pretty boring. I like her husbands, Hirokane Kenshi's, just like
someone explained before.


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From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Viz' Ranma GN?
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:50:11 GMT
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238

Does anyone know if Viz plans to release Ranma in a GN format much like 
Lum, Mai, etc? I don't like Ranma THAT much to buy them separate issues, 
but perhaps if a Graphic Nvel collection of Ranma comes out (*AND* if 
it's in b/w not color) I might buy it...
:::::Larry:::::

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From: thomat@vccnw04.its.rpi.edu (Todd Michael Thomas)
Subject: Where?
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:20:05 GMT

also a very   good  place is Yaohan Plaza ... on Jersey side, 1$ shuttle to Transit Authority and free parking... many japanese stores... books, manga, video,
anime, toys, food, ect.


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From: nasato@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Neil Asato)
Subject: Re: Gunnm, fight 43 comment 
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:20:24 GMT

     This is a spelling correction note, the one Gally was fighting
has the name of "Zapan", not "Zaban". 

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: To Kunedog (mail bounced...) [NO MANGA HERE]
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:39:29 GMT


I have the TITIN IN THE LAND OF THE SOVIETS hardcover.  E-mail me for
the ISBN...
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From: aoki@faerie.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Paul M. Aoki)
Subject: Re: thoughts on the New Miyu [was: For those who like shojo manga (#2)]
Organization: International Science Organization
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:48:50 GMT

Minor corrections follow, spoilers ho...

aoki@cloud9.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Paul M. Aoki) writes:
>Oh, yeah.  And Carlua's a babe - schwing!  :-)  If I were Larva, I'd dump 
>Miyu in a heartbeat.

Assuming, of course, Carlua isn't *literally* his sister, as she says the
first time they meet.  Wouldn't want to suggest they start "Lemon Miyu:
Be My Baby" :-P

>Some (non-spoiler) items of interest:
>      -	Miyu goes by the surname "Yamano."  Since she doesn't seem to 
>	change her given name, hairstyle or modus operandi as she transfers 
>	from school to school, I don't suppose she changes her family name,
>	either.  (This is comics, not real life, folks.  You'd think 
>	*someone* would have connected these vampiric incidents with the
>	pretty girl with the funny hairdo who's been transferring between
>	junior highs for thirty years.)

...he writes, forgetting about the *very next page* where she lists some
aliases she's used.  Oh, well.  Sorry!
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From: esum@sol.UVic.CA (Edmund Sum)
Subject: is there any more 3x3 Eyes manga synopses?
Originator: esum@sol.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 12:33:31 GMT

The subject line pretty much says it all.  I got what's currently available
through ftp and what I'm looking for is for books 4 and up after finally 
getting getting books 4 - 6.  Now to work on saving up to get the rest of 
them.....

Ed Sum
esum1@ra.uvic.ca
esum@sol.uvic.ca
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Subject: Re: Manga gimmick
From: Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:33:54 EST
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy

In article <1992Nov10.112407.28127@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mhigh@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Matthew High) says:

>Twilight-X - hm. though Joe's artwork style is quite simplistic, it kinda
>  grows on you.

The word I prefer to use is "clean"... :-) He doesn't draw much, but what
he does, he draws the hell out of. Usually it works; I like it, anyway. I've
been interested in this title since I saw the second half of the original
story in Mangazine (the issue with the cool Dunn-drawn picture of Toots on
the cover.)

I *still* haven't been able to get the situation or the chronology straight,
but hey... perhaps if I had more issues than #3...

> [wishes it sold better]

It sold TOO well here in State College. I can't find any back issues.

Say, did anyone reading this ever get a hold of the original 3 issues
published by <name of small press that I forget>? Are they any good?

>A-OK - is anyone else out there surprised at how *good* this title is?

[raises hand]

I promised myself not to buy any more NHS spinoffs (Zetraman and Hitomi
were pretty bad) but this made me break my vow. It's funny and charming and
it reminds me a lot of NHS right at the beginning, when there wasn't a lot
of continuity and stuff tying it back. (Not to say that NHS is worse now...
it's not worse, it's just different.)

 "But Dr. Radium, was that necessary?" "Rez, _everything_ I do is necessary."
[Your blood pressure just went up.]        Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
DISCLAIMER: If PSU knew I had opinions they'd probably try to charge me for it.
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From: rmc@wang.com (rmc)
Subject: What is the word for...
Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:33:29 GMT

A couple of days ago, a friend of mine were discussing anime and manga
at lunch, and it became clear that we were missing a word.  So:

What is the word for, when you look carefully through a book (say a
manga collection) and understand a lot of the story (because the
pictures explain a lot) but you aren't reading the book (because you
don't know the language)?

It isn't "skimming", which involves reading isolated phrases and
sentences to get the "gist" of the argument or contents.

It isn't "flipping through", which doesn't pick up any of the story
line.  (For example, i "flip through" an unknown comic or manga or art
book that i think might be interesting, looking to see if anything
catches my eye.  Strangely, i tend to do this in the direction
opposite the story line (right cover to left for US comics, left cover
to right for manga) so i am relatively certain that i am picking up
virtually none of the story.)

Maybe there isn't such a word.  If not, we should invent one.

R Mark Chilenskas
Chilenskas@Office.wang.com
From: rcamama@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Camama)
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Subject: Hardbound KOR #9,10 ISBNs?, MI hardbound manga?
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:42:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


	As the header reads, could anyone supply the ISBN's for the
Hardbound KOR volumes 9 and 10, since it looks like those volumes have
been released?
	I just have those to get and I'll have the entire set.
	
	Next...Maison Ikkoku manga! (when my bank account recovers...)

BTW:  How much do the MI hardbound manga cost, and how many are there?

	Thanx,
	R. Camama

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From: winata@cae.wisc.edu (Charles Winata)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Vampire Princess Miyu and Yui translation needed.
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:16:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Nov11.211648.13630
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

Hi all,

	As the subject says, I would like to have the translation for the
2 VP Yui mangas i have... and 1 of the 2 Miyu mangas. I think i have the
transltation for the older Miyu manga. FTP addresses or any info welcomed.
Thanks a lot in advance.

Chuck
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From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
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Subject: Re: (WS) Tokyo Love Story: yes, it's live action
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:38:41 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
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s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto) writes:

>Actually, I do not like any of Saimon Fumi mangas...to me, they are
>all pretty boring. I like her husbands, Hirokane Kenshi's, just like
>someone explained before.

I like it because the art isn't overdone.  There is a freshness and a sim-
plicity to it, a naturalism that can't be found in other stories because
of the complexity of the story in terms of action and "SFX".  I like it
for the same reason I like _Maison Ikkoku_.  Realistic story, with well
defined and sympathetic characters.  IMHO, of course.

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From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Question about Mai Manga
Date: 6 Nov 92 06:06:00 GMT
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238

RE: Mai manga
Yes,Viz edited out a page or two in the individual issues, due to what 
they called "space problms", basically an outright lie.  it was because 
these pages contained Mai kind of nude in the bathtub. It WAS restored, 
thankfully, in the graphic novels.
  As for as the ending, it is that way in the original Japanese too... 
left ambiguous, thtough not really. I actually liked it.
  Yes, you can buy the original Mais if you can find them (I don't know 
if they're still available). I have them somewhere. Right now I can only 
find #1 and #6, but I know I have the others in the closet somewhere. 
(There are 6 graphic novels in Japanes, since there are less pages per GN 
than the English Graphic Novels). 
MAI Japanese graphic novel vol 1: ISBN 4-09-121341-3   c0279 (Y360 price)
MAI Japaese graphic novel vol  6: ISBN 4-09-121346-4   c0279 (Y360 price)
  
On another note, one reason I hate Viz so much is that even on things 
that are right there in front of them, they have to meddle and change 
them. Near the very beginning of the story, Mai is in school, listening 
to the English teacher give a lesson. In the original Japanese (on page 
18), *IN ENGLISH*, they print the English teacher saying "Every family 
has a skeleton in a cupboard", a goodelement of foreshadowing what's to 
come. Well, on something that Viz doesn't even HAVE to translate (since 
it's in English even in the Japanese version), thy completely change it 
to say something about love and being loved (I don't have the English in 
front of me, but it was totally different). First of all, there's no 
reason at all to change it... and when they do, they take away a very 
good foreshadow and just trivialize it.    Try to find the Japanese 
original. Then you can see Ikegami's wonder work not all reversed.
:::::Larry:::::

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From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Manga gimmick
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:23:28 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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Mark Sachs writes:
Matthew High queries:
>>A-OK - is anyone else out there surprised at how *good* this title is?
>I promised myself not to buy any more NHS spinoffs (Zetraman and Hitomi
>were pretty bad) but this made me break my vow. 

Hmmm? I seemed to have missed on it as well.  I mean, Zetraman and Hitomi
weren't just "pretty bad," they were awful.  I made a similar promise and
now am off to try to find some back issues.

Yo!  Whomever at Antartic is reading this: quality of your spinoffs *is*
important.  They are not separate stories, but overall contribute to an
image that your consumers (or at least this one) will judge/expect from
your next spinoffs.  Z-man and H probably cost you money in this way as
well, so please be more selective in your offerings.

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