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From: 2816af@GMUVAX.GMU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: International Idiots
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:16:00 GMT

>From: raj@quartzite.cs.odu.edu (M.P. Krishna Raj)
>Dear Sri-Lankan Tamils,
>We( Tamils of India) do not know much about you and your culture.
>We used to hear much of the radio broadcast to hear filmsongs.
>I used to watch roopavahini tamil programs. Still we are not fully
>aware of the society there.

>The reason behind is that we haven't studied properly about you in
>school and college education. I remember only there is passing remark
>tamil people in tea estates.

Of course, there are no REAL TAMILS in Sri Lanka other than the one
who migrated to sri-lanka last century.
They are working in tea estates.

The so-called Jaffna tamils who live in North
and Batticaloa Tamils who live in East are not REAL TAMILS. 
Almost all of them are Sinhalese.
Their fathers are Sinhalese. 
Their mothers too. 
This was proved by many scholars such as 
Dr. Sri Tharan at University of Colorado,
Dr. Balusinhama, Dr. Ballachandi list goes on and on.
Look at their names, they are  all Sinhalese.

Tamil is a  great language. - (Of course all languages are great.)
Sinhale people lived in Jaffna learned Tamil because  Tamil Nadu is 
very close.
Later they wanted to become Tamil. 
It is similar to becoming an American after learning English. 
It is similar to becoming Computer Engineer after learning English. 
It is similar to becoming Computer Engineer after learning English and 
Computer Engineering.
You may want to become an American, marry an Australian etc.
It is like getting American citizenship.
This is life. Nothing to do with Tamil.

Real Tamils never want to learn English. Ex. Pirapakaran - He cannot
speak English. But He loves Australians. Love is Universal.
He destroyed Libraries, Places, Temples, People, 
educational institutions, cultural
centers,caste systems,etc. Of course  we can understand better.

We are eager to know about you culturally and socially.
Please write in soc.culture.indian as well
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: obey@ds13.scri.fsu.edu (Dr. Obeysekera)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Who Created Tigers
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:43:28 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Distribution: na
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Apr14.162203.902@micronics.com Jey Kumarasurier
(jey@micronics.com) writes 


>What is the point you are trying to make if there is one at all.  
>The way you think is typical to sihalese leaders and the monks,
>Are you trying to justify the discrimination against Tamils
>by showing these numbers? Wake up!

>When a certain population is oppressed just because they have a 
>certain language, they don't have to put up with oppressors
>for no reasons, they bring the issues to the oppressors
>if the oppressors are not capable of understanding the words
>what other choice ther are left with ??

Since you did not get the point of my message let me try again.
(I am going to ignore your characterization of how my mind works!)

In my opinion the whole issue of discrimination has been blown out
proportion.  Compare the above statistics on jobs and education
with the corresponding population percentages and it is obvious
there are no grounds to claim a systematic discrimination
in these areas.  My point again is that the Tigers started with
a violent campaign right away without considering any other option.
This certainly had a domino effect which led to the destroyal
mututal respect, religions, cultures, the whole country etc. etc. 

Waving flags, and citing isolated incidents or extremist
statements made by some politicians will not do, present
some real evidence to justify your claim of "discrimination"
and "oppression".  Some of you have done such a good job that
worldwide every sinhalese is now automatically characterized as
a "chauvinist".  

Obeysekera
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: mvishnu@sunee.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu)
Subject: Tamil Sinhala New Year Greetings
Originator: mvishnu@sunee.waterloo.edu
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:21:07 GMT



A very Happy New Year to the people of Thamiz-Eezam and Sri-lanka.
May the New Year bring peace and good will between these countries.

Meenan Vishnu
From: 2816af@GMUVAX.GMU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: Journey 2: by thamilan
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:13:00 GMT



In article <ANDREW.MDOHXLA00VPAI3SEC_> rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu
 (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes, 
>Little late for this follow-up...........

Let me follow-up

>Corrections or what I can say are the most correct English spelling for
>Thamil pronounced words:

>ThirukonNeswaram
>ThirukKatheswaram
>Maddakalappu(Journey 2 is here....)     in English : Batticaloa
>in English : Trincomalee

Of course Suresh is right.

Let me add more.

Incorrect Thamil pronounced word       - Balasinhem
Correct English spelling              - Ballasinhaham
                                           (Please note the doubling feature)
Another example  
 - Balachandra - see you cannot pronounce properly
Please double the second consonant.
Then you can pronounce properly. Ballachandra.

See everybody agree with Suresh.

This is what is happening in Jaffna for decades.
From: bandu@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jagath Samarabandu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: On silence &..
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:35:52 GMT
Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Electrical Eng.

In article <1992Apr9.162012.3280@u.washington.edu> sri@milton.u.washington.edu (Kandiah Sribalaskandarajah) writes:

>However, the fact of the matter is
>that LTTE is as 'democratic' as the SL government.

Well, I'd prefer to say 'undemocratic'8(.

> Because, if we all can 
>accept that the government has the support of the majority Sri Lankans and
>hence it is democratic, so does LTTE among the tamil people.

This is where I'd beg to differ. personally I don't think the Govt. has the
support of the Sinhala. The situation is identical to that of LTTE vs.
Tamils. Sinhala people think LTTE is a bigger threat than the GOvt. and are
forced to choose a lesser evil. 

When I think about it, LTTE and SL Govt. really have what they want (power) .
Why would they want to change it. IMHO, this hypothesis is further strengthened
by the behaviour of LTTE and Govt. during the ceasefire

Boy, things are really looking bleak now.

Bandu

PS: Someone mentioned about the recovery of southern parts in SL. If by
recovery you mean people go about their business, then yes. I'd imagine same
thing would happen in north once the armed parties leave. But the distrust and
fear remains. (and that suits fine to the politicians too).
From: m1pkd00@fed.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Colvin
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:27:20 GMT


From "Divayina" March 11, 1992

Pere~da~ (9) Sawasa Lanka Sama Sama~ja Paksha Moolastha~naya Vetha Pa^mini
Police Niladha~reen Dedenek, Colvin Innava~ D^ay Vivian Goonewardena 
Mahathmiyagen Vimasooha.  Kshanayakin Pilithuru La^bini.

"Eya Marila~. Wala Da~lath Godak Kal."


Crude Translation:

Two police officers who came to the LSSP headquarters on the 9th, 
asked Mrs. Vivian Goonewardena if Colvin (R. de Silva) is in.  They 
got a lightning fast reply.

"He's dead.  Been a quite a while since we buried him, too."

-- 
Prasad Dharmasena     Internet: <pkd@fed.FRB.GOV>       UUCP: <uunet!fed!pkd>
From: vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Who loves Lanka? (was Re: Part 6. Who created the LTTE?)
Date: 11 Apr 1992 16:59:15 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


Subject: Re: Part 6 : Who Created the Tigers (LTTE) ?

In article <1992Apr11.031433.1@tesla.njit.edu> rxh9306@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>Who Created the Tigers (LTTE) ?                        (Part 6)
>
>
>Ekasath Bhikkhu Peramuna and others like him did !
 				^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>Here is how:
>
>On 5 June 1956, the date the "Sinhala only" bill was introduced by
>Bandaranaike in the House, as an act of protest Chelvanayakam (a
>Tamil leader of the FP party) led a party of 300 Tamil volunteers
>and staged a sit-down "Satyagraha" (peaceful protest), of the kind
>popularized by the Mahatma Gandhi in the days of the indian freedom
>struggle......
>
>On the same day, the Ekasth Bhikkhu Peramuna (a Buddhist Priest)
		      #######################  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

;-)

I think that should be Eksath not Ekasth and if I am not mistaken,
EBP translates into something to the effect of United Bhikku Front.
Peramuna is not the name of one person but it simply means FRONT or PARTY.
(I think I am right! ...?)

I agree with you that it was a VERY unfortunate incident.
My Grandfather who was and still is (@ 90 not out) a Ghandhian
was one of the participants in that PEACEFUL demonstration.
He still feels that LANKA will emerge from this chaos and every
letter he writes me from Jaffna talks of a new dawn for his beloved country.
His love for his country was such that he named one of his sons LANKANESAN
(lover of Lanka). Now if only those Bhikkus and politicians loved our country
as much.....

>converged on the House, followed by thousands of supporters of
>"Sinhala only", and when they found the Tamils staging the
>Satyagraha they set upon and beat them.

....(a sad chapter in Lankan history) deleted...
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I just wish it was as 
						  simple as CTRL-K !!!

- Vaseeharan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: saliya@wam.umd.edu (Saliya P. Herath)
Subject: Musical Night
Originator: saliya@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 06:37:02 GMT


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Xref: sparky soc.men:8474 soc.women:8990 alt.flame:6865 alt.fan.q:420
From: kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,alt.flame,alt.fan.q
Subject: Re: Q the fake
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:33:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.011812.156372@cs.cmu.edu>, garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
> In article <HROSE.92Apr13204820@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
> #I'm curious to know why so many people believe "Q" is a male. Is it
> #because Q has a similar posting style to many of the male.bozos on
> #soc.women, or just because of gender bias?
> #
> #Think over carefully before answering....
> 
> I thought that Q was a man because he posted that he'd had
> a vasectomy.  
> 
> Susan

Well, thank God for small wonders.  Anyway...

I've thought of something, but don't know if it's been brought up before here.
His address has "deja-q" in it, which is an episode title of one of the
episodes of "Star Trek: The Next Generation."  He signs his posts simply as
"Q", the supposedly omnipotent entity (with an ego to boost) on that show.
I find it highly unlikely that he has a PhD in PSYCHOLOGY with the
behavior he's shown.  He certainly wouldn't last in any practice with a
personality like that.  Plus, there are too many holes in his story.
For instance, he says he has all this money in a trust, yet he also has a PhD.
What is the average age of people who have just received their PhD, I wonder.
I would guess that probably 30-ish would be about right, yet there's still
the small matter of this "trust."  Now, while trusts can be specified to 
be available to a person at whatever age, usually it is 18 or 21, and I've
never heard of one going over age 30.  In addition, his assertion that he lives
in "suburban Maryland" means he could live anywhere there.  I think he
doesn't live near Maryland at all, and is afraid that if he actually names
a city, someone who lives there or who had lived there would question him
about it, and he wouldn't be able to answer.  Just a guess.

If he weren't so "wealthy," I'd send him a dollar so he could buy a clue.
What a doorknob.


Ken
Newsgroups: soc.men
From: sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer)
Subject: Re: Japanese Women's Lib
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 23:49:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr11.170914.5394@news.lrz-muenchen.de> TRINGHAM@usmv01.usm.uni-muenchen.de (Tringham, Neal) writes:
>
>The only Japanese I have ever personally known was a woman. She hated the
>society from top to bottom, starting with `attitudes towards women' and
>working up to `attitudes towards foreigners' via `company practices' and
>`how to say what you really think'. Yes, it's anecdotal, but I

Maybe that's why she emigrated? 
-- 
  
        Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
  
 Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!

     "In the 1970's the world will undergo famines - hundreds of millions
     of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs 
     embarked upon now ... in 1985, when it is calculated [under the most
     optimistic scenario] that the major die-back will be over, ..."
       
                       Dr. Paul Ehrlich, "The Population Bomb," 1968

Xref: sparky soc.men:8151 soc.women:8721 alt.dads-rights:644 alt.child-support:1040 talk.abortion:14106
From: bev@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu (Beverly Huntsberger)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: pro-choice == pro-(womens' only) choice?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:12:44 GMT
Organization: Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia

In <1992Apr06.160847.22990@sdd.hp.com> regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:


>In article <1992Apr3.045457.14159@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:

>>But his wallet typically *IS*. Why narrow the question to only biology? 
>>Biology is not the only thing that's important here.

	Oh, biology. I tried that. I didn't like it.

	Geez. We're not philosophizing  about
	"the study of life". 

	It's called "My Body". Yeah, say that.
	See how it feels.

	Not the same as "my wallet", imnsho.

	But, you may be different. Maybe you really
	were born with your wallet intricately
	interwoven into your abdomen. I suppose
	it's possible.

	Bev
-- 
-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Just read his lips:
Now, he wants us to believe in the "tooth fairy".
-	-	-	-	-	-	-
From: slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: Companies can afford it, right?
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:18:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr8.141849.23414
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <2684@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.165902.214@news.nd.edu> slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen) writes:
>>employers-from-hell weren't cold enough to have a policy of 
>>dumping women from the payroll who had given birth.  Lord help 
>
>	I like to fire 'em, then hire 'em back, and then fire 'em *again*,
>'cause it feels so good.
>
>	Sue, i know you're not listening (anymore?) but try to remember
>that all companies are not industrial giants.  We can barely afford a useable
>medical plan, never mind extended sick leaves.  *We* have no money for it.
>
>								W.rat

I'm listening, just not writing (oops).  And, yes, I do understand that.

Sue
From: stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: More flames (Re: You want to win.)
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:55:05 GMT
Distribution: na

Michael Rawdon writes

+ Pro-choice:  The American way!

Until it comes to MY choice, you mean..."Oh? you're a guy. Sorry dude,
we're plumb outta choice for you. Just get back to work and pay up 
like you're supposed to."

K'Char
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women
From: repnomar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Janet M. Lafler)
Subject: Re: Maternity Leave and Child Benefits
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 06:07:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.163207.1523@lmpsbbs.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:

>I'm a little skeptical about the high standard of living -> low birthrate
>argument myself.  It could be a third factor (such as increased literacy
>and/or education) causing both, for example.

I've been told that there's a strong correlation around the world between a 
high level of education for women and low birth rate.  I don't have any 
specific information on this, though.  Does anyone know more about it?

>)Anyway, it appears likely that the birth rate goes down as women are
>)engaged in paid labor that is both remunerative and satisfying.  So,
>)it's not just a question of the availability of birth control, although
>)that also is quite important, but women's sense of what it is that
>)they're supposed to be doing in life.  And ability to do it.
>
>This sounds logical - some women may want a career and children, but at
>least some working women may skip children entirely, and others are probably
>not going to have really large families (IMO).

Also, middle class families in industrialized nations are more likely to 
see small families as preferable because children are an expense, rather 
than an economic asset.  In many of the countries with high birth rates,
there is economic incentive to have children because children are put to
work very young.  Also, of course, the higher the infant mortality rate 
(and the lower, generally, the life expectancy), the more the incentive to 
keep having children to insure that some of them will survive to adulthood.

/Janet

-- 
send mail to repnomar@leland.stanford.edu
Purdy...lowered his voice.  "Now.  We never had this conversation."   B.J. was 
alarmed to hear it.  Who _had_ had this conversation and what had he been 
doing while they had it?
From: stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: support payments (was: {a whole buncha thangs})
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:35:47 GMT
Distribution: na

Dances with Drums writes

+ month!  Doesn't that just send shivers down your spine?  A man actually
+ having a right to a child when the woman wanted to give it away.  Now
+ the question I would wonder in this recent case, is: will the woman be
+ liable for child support payments to the father?

Damn straigh she should. Wanna bet that a) the court never orders it, -or-
b) they order a trivial amount (like $11/month).

K'Char
Newsgroups: soc.men
From: bai@msiadmin.cit.cornell.edu (Dov Bai-MSI Visitor)
Subject: Re: Companies can afford it, right?
Organization: /usr/local/lib/news/organization
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:24:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.165902.214@news.nd.edu> slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu (susan larsen) writes:

>
>Who has claimed that my job is "comfortable?"  It is a job that pays 
>the bills, and that is about it.
>
>And I am damned good at what I do, and I was fortunate to have 
>employers, when I was pregnant, that DID bend over backwards so 
>I could stay home and recuperate from the pregnancy and DID 
>recognize that I was a valuable employee and DID feel a moral 
>obligation to assist women, and their families,  who needed
>their jobs to survive.

Excellent. You are good at what you are doing, and your employer
found it that it is in HIS interest to keep you satisfied. However:

>Read this:  I am a peon.  I need to work.  Most women I know 
>need to work, children or not. I have grown accustomed to food. 

But who is responsible to satisfy YOUR need and why do you hold him
responsible for it ?
>
>And I am extremely tired of the elitist bull being tossed around 
>here that children are the sole province of those who can afford it.

>not only to an individual's future, but a family's future, and 
>the society's future. 
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
so who is being the elitist ? YOU claim to have the omniscience to
know what the good of society is. 

>It is within the corporate interest to minimize family interference 
>in their employees.  Well, there seems to be a lot of people 
>around here defending the corporate interest by attacking people, 
>and not just women, who want to raise a family.

You contradict yourself. You first say that it is in the corporate
interest to minimize family interference to which I agree (and your
own employer is a good example ). But later on you claim that it 
is not in the corporate interest. which is it ?
>
>I shall bow out of this conversation now, so shoot away at me 
>all you care to.
Too  bad.

>Sue Larsen
>slarsen@berlin.helios.nd.edu

Dov Bai
From: stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: How do *you* say 'harassment'?
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:30:05 GMT
Distribution: na

Shawn FitzGerald writes

+ It really pisses me off that I would have to be afraid of discussing
+ something in an *academic* setting. What kind of policy is it for an
+ institution of 'learning' that causes a portion of its students to feel
+ afraid of talking about certain things? I don't really need to point out
+ what position most of this population assumes durring urination.

You see, you have been born with a genetic defect: you have a "dangler".
It's perfectly OK to oppress you, because you see, you are the Patriarchy.
They have to go out of their way to protect the poor, oppressed masses
that you have been oppressing by your willingness to speak out.

That's how *I* understand it, at any rate...

K'Char
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women