From: m_wright@uk.ac.icrf (Mike. Ph (44) 71 269 3618)
Newsgroups: infomax
Subject: Re: Max memory with VM/24 bit
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:18:53 GMT
Organization: Imperial Cancer Research Fund, London, UK

>>Matthew Cravit states:
>>
>>Quite simply, VM cannot be turned on in this situation because you
>>cannot allocate more memory.  With 32-bit addressing OFF, the address
>>path of the Mac is 24-bits.  This corresponds to 2**24 possible memory
>>addresses.  This translates to a maximum of 8 megabytes of RAM.  After

Maybe I am just adding to the confusion here but,

I have a IIcx, 20Meg RAM and mode32 OFF. How is it that I can create a
12 Meg RAMdisk with the extra memory when my machine can only address 8
megabytes total ?



Mike

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:42:03 -0700
From: Larry Rosenstein <lsr@taligent.com>
Subject: Max memory with VM/24 bit

>>Matthew Cravit states:
>>
>>Quite simply, VM cannot be turned on in this situation because you
>>cannot allocate more memory.  With 32-bit addressing OFF, the address
>>path of the Mac is 24-bits.  This corresponds to 2**24 possible memory
>>addresses.  This translates to a maximum of 8 megabytes of RAM.  After

That's not true.  The VM system in 24-bit mode should let you use parts of
the address space assigned to empty NuBus slots.  So you should be able to
get more than 8Mb of VM.

>- without 32 bit on I (and I assume everyone else) can only address 8
>meg of RAM max. Perhaps someone can explain what happened to the last
>bit!

I think 1/2 of the 16Mb address space is devoted to ROM and I/O.  The ROM
is given 1 Mb and each NuBus slot gets 1Mb.


>- with 24-bit only I have got 13 meg total memory with virtual memory
>(with 5 meg RAM). I have no idea why I couldn't get more than 13 meg, by

You have to subtract 1Mb for the ROM and 1Mb for each occupied NuBus slot.


Larry Rosenstein
Taligent, Inc.

lsr@taligent.com

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 21:01:05 EDT
From: gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser ><>  )
Subject: My IIsi fan is dying!

My IIsi is acting like it's over the hill -- the power light
fades in and out and eventually blinks out.  I can handle that --
I know when my machine is on and don't need the light.  But
lately the fan has been sounding funny -- speeding up and
slowing down and sounding ready to shuffle off.  This I
suppose could be a problem, right?

Nate.
--

Nathan Gasser       ><>
gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:51:24 -0500
From: chai@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: My Spreadsheet Search -- Summary

I got several comments and suggestions.

The below are opinions, except where noted:

1. Excel is better than Greatworks
2. Excel is better than Lotus 1-2-3
3. Claris Resolve may be good but is expensive.
4. Quicken might be an inexpensive solution for my limited needs as it has
   nice checkbook stuff.
5. There are Shareware spreadsheets on Sumex: Biplane and Mariner. (this is
the
   bit that's not opinion but rather fact.)

I downloaded Biplane and Mariner and plan to try them out.

Thanks, everyone who responded.

Ian

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:19:03 EDT
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: NCSA Telnet question

Can anyone tell me if there is a way to change the size of the scrollback
buffer in NCSA Telnet 2.5 MacTCP?  Since our system here at MSU does not
allow any way to save a message to a local disk file, I would like to be
able to cut e-mail messages and paste them into Word files, so that I can
keep a disk copy.  However, with some longer messages, the top of the
message can fall outside of the top of the buffer, and disappear.  If anyone
can tell me how to set the buffer length, I would appreciate it.

Matthew Cravit
cravitma@student.msu.edu

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92   1:12 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: NNTP access

There are quite a few news-reader type applications available for Macs
now such as Nuntius or Newswatcher (the latest version of the latter
doesn't appear to be on Sumex, by the way).  My problem, as I understand it,
is that if I want to use these to read usenet news, say of the comp.sys.mac.
whatever variety, I will need access to an NNTP server.  How do I do this?
Is it just a question of knowing an Internet number and logging on in a way
similar to anonymous ftp?  Or does one have to have special privileges?
Where can I find an NNTP server anyhow?  Please reply privately and I'll
produce a condensed answer shortly for the benefit of other network novices

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:13:15 EDT
From: bkirsch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (B. Kirsch)
Subject: PB100 as an ADB device?

	Is it possible to connect a PowerBook ADB port to
another Mac's ADB port to use the PowerBook's trackball or
keyboard to control the other Mac?  I am asking before I try
it, so I don't blow up either Mac.

Thanks,
Barry Kirsch            bkirsch@nadc.navy.mil

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 00:22:56 EDT
From: "Peter V. Tamas" <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: PCs vs. Macs / Doctoral Committees

> ...asks for rebutals to a member of his Doctoral Committee on the
> relative merits of the Mac v. a PC running Windows.

For general questions of this type, you may wish to refer to the
article "PC Shoppers May Find It's Wise to Develop a Taste for
Apples" by Walter S. Mossberg, The Wall Street Journal, Aug. 6,
1992, p. B1 (Personal Technology column).

I quote: "The fact is that for many people and small firms that want
to get maximum work done on computers with minimum hassle, the
Mac is an excellent choice with a superior combination of hardware
and software."

Also: "If you're just using just one just one or two... programs you know
and love, and don't plan to explore much new software... stick with IBM
compatibles... But for most small businesses, it isn't smart to overlook
the Macintosh."

As for me, all else being equal I like being able to use file names
that are longer than 8 characters. I also noticed that:
>DOS users have been saying the Mac was doomed since its introduction and
> they haven't been right yet.

Imagine two marathon runners. One is a mile ahead. The second runner
sees the first on top of a hill. When he reaches that hill, he says: "See,
I'm catching up. That guy is doomed." But he doesn't consider how much
the first has progressed since he was on top of the hill. I remember
people saying that since PC Paintbrush an a mouse were available for PCs,
the PC could do anything a Mac could do.

HOWEVER, I have to agree with Paul and Al:

> I question his
> wisdom of challenging a member of his Committee over such a personal
> decision. I mean, what if the guy holds this against Eric when his thesis
> comes up for its final review?

> Paul

[actually, it sounds like Eric kept his mouth shut until he could get
some facts. Also, the committee member can be a pain long before
he defends]

> Speaking for at least a subset of those of us who have gone through the
> the PhD process, please let me beg you to agree with your committee
> members on matters of taste. Or at least don't fight. You *may* be able
> to argue matters of substance (Took me two tries) successfully, but on
> matters of taste, you are doomed.

>Let the goofy Windows type keep his or her delusions. Your goal is to
> get your butt out of graduate studentness.

> Unless of course there aren't any jobs in your chosen career. In that
> case, feel free to annoy the bejeezuz out of your committee. It is
> better to be a graduate student than to be unemployed.

> Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

Perhaps Eric can collect articles like the one I mentioned above and
politely pass them along after he's passed his doctorate. And don't
forget to give him/her a way to save face. Mention that most observers
agree that if you only wanted to do one thing with a computer, a PC may be
perfectly satisfactory (though most of us like to do more than one thing).
Finally, if the secretaries at the University have the option of using either
Macs or PCs, you'll notice that they will use more programs on the Mac
than the PC. At Temple, the better secretaries typically know 1-2 PC
programs and 5-6 Mac programs.-Pete Tamas

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:06 CDT
From: PETER GINGISS <ENGLAD@Jetson.UH.EDU>
Subject: Personal LWLS and a Mac Plus

I would appreciate advice.  We have hooked up a Personal Laser Writer LS to a
Mac Plus, and it takes forever to print (20 mintues or so).  Anyone have any
suggestions or at least experience?  Thanks in advance.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:46:24 GMT
From: sandall@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dwayne Sandall)
Subject: PhotoShop Plug-Ins on the Net?

	The title just about says it all, are there any Plug ins for PhotoShop
available on the net, or from some commercial vendor at relatively cheap
prices
afterall, I'm a student, and I don't use the program enough to warrant
spending
huge sums of cash.
	Thanks, for your time.
ps. could you mail me, and I will post if there is enough interest and/or
feedback.

--
	Dwayne Sandall,
		Faculty of Architecture,
			University of Manitoba
				sandall@ccu.umanitoba.ca

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Date: Tue, 13 OCT 92 17:00:32 BST
From: JM144%MOLECULAR-BIOLOGY-1.BIOLOGY.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Plea for help. VERY sick SE/30.

Hello netters!
Over the past few months my SE/30 (5/40, micron
Xceed card) has been ill.
It started with frequent crashes and stripy
startup screen. I had the mother board changed.
Everything appeared fine...except if you tried
to REstart the mac- cold starts were fine if the
mac was left for 2-3 hours, and once on it would
run as normal. I had the motherboard changed.
Since then the problems have become far more alarming.
After about 30 minutes of operation the mac crashes and
goes mad; I get some serious interference lines across both
monitors (internal and Eizo T240i 14"), but it's especially
bad on the internal one. This is accompanied by loud
buzzing . The first time this happens it stops quickly.
If I try to press the reset button at this point,
I get a sad mac sound or a very distorted version of it
and again the crazy screen. The noises coming from the mac
sound like classic short cicuiting sounds and every time I
hear them I think it's the end of my beloved SE/30. I can
leave the machine off for a while and then restart it with
no problems for a few minutes, even hours sometimes.
Recently though the "on" time is becoming less before it
screws up again. I just want to know what's wrong.
Could it be the mac's power supply? Or the RAM SIMMS
expanding (they were changed with the 1st motherboard).
I have a maintenance contract with an APPLE dealer,
so it won't cost me anything. The problem is that they
don't know what's wrong either. The daeler wants to get
another Micron Xceed card as they believe (only by default)
that the card must be at fault. I wouldn't mind checking this
out, only I live in the UK and it takes ages to contact Micron.
I don't want to send a perfectly good card over to the US, get
a perfectly good one back in exchange and the find that the
problem is still there. Meanwhile having lost a couple of
months too.
I feel really bad about this as I just spent 650 pounds (over
$1300 at the time) on a 14" monitor which I've hardly been able
to use.
Please reply directly to me if you have any idea what might be
wrong. Thanks in advance for your help. Hell, thanks for even
reading this far into my long-winded message.
Joe Makkerh
Graduate Student
Wellcome Trust/ Cancer Research Campagin Institute
University of Cambridge

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Date: 13 Oct 1992 19:56:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Cornick <STU_M1CORNIC@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
Subject: Powerbook 140/Clarisworks/Imagewriter problem

The following message was posted on our local Macintosh bulletin board:

>I am using a Powerbook 140 with System 7.0.1. When I try to print anything
>in ClarisWorks, I get an error message "Unknown Error -192". I am using
>an Imagewriter printer and I have the correct imagewriter file in the
>System Folder. Any thoughts on what may be causing this?

Any ideas, folks? Please reply to me and send a copy to
STU_ARGUTTER@vax1.acs.jmu.edu as well. Thanks.

Mark Cornick, James Madison University   stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:11:43 EDT
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: PowerBook 140 upgrade

In Info-Mac #245, Patrick Maun
<R5321GAB%AWIUNI11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.Edu>
writes:

> Hmm, let's see, if I open up my PowerBook and poke
> at the CPU with some stuff, the send it to Apple(TM) and say it "dun
> broke" will they put in a new CPU?

Well, according to the Apple rep who was here at MSU about a week ago,
PowerBook 140s being repaired will be repaired as 145s.  ie if the
processor daughterboard blows, a 145 board will be installed instead.
However, he indicated that computers that showed any signs of tampering
with the daughterboard would not be repaired.

Matthew Cravit

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 10:21 CDT
From: "Richard Z. Toptani"
<XM0SRZT%LUCCPUA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Question about New Macs

I know that Apple will be releasing its new Macs on
Oct. 19th, and have seen some of the specs, but does
anyone have any information regarding pricing? Has
Apple  announced the pricing yet, or will I have to
wait until the 19th to find that out?

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 09:13:42 PDT
From: Suvrit Varshney  <xsvarshn@aunix.fullerton.edu>
Subject: QuickTime 1.5

I recently met a friend who says he has a copy of QT 1.5 (release)
with him. Why hasn't it been released in the public yet? What
improvements does it have over QT 1.0 ? BTW if anyone needs to
download some *big* quicktime movies, try ftp.apple.com in
pub/pugh dir.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:40:34 GMT
From: pjl@suna0.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas)
Subject: TrueType Fonts... how to use?

In digest <9210122345.AA01549@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>       Hello netland,
>       I have seen numerous different fonts available for the mac.
>They all seem to be TrueType fonts, and I can't seem to be able to install
>them.
>       What do I need to do in order to expand my selection of fonts, and

	System 7.

>will they improve my printing resolution as well?

	For the TT fonts, the jaggies will be gone; the resolution of
	any printing device is fixed so it will not change.

>I have a MacSE with
>2.5/40 meg and I am running Word 4 as well as some other programs.

	Irrelevant.
--
	- Paul J. Lucas                         University of Illinois
	  AT&T Bell Laboratories                at Urbana-Champaign
	  Naperville, IL                        pjl@cs.uiuc.edu

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 11:22:11 BST
From: Jonathon Fletcher <jfl@compsci.stirling.ac.uk>
Subject: UK Internet Access (summary)

Many thanks to all who replied to my query. Here is a little summary:
(I'm still working (hence connected) so I haven't tried any of the
suggestions yet - I enclose the mail addresses of people who know)

Mike <SOUGD%HUJIVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> offered a phone number and
a Janet address:
Phone Number: 071 388-2333
Janet Address: a00004001108057
This connects you to a guest telnet address.

Edward Reid <ed@titipu.resun.com> summarised methods available in the US
(therefore probably in the UK also). He suggested getting a uucp feed
>From a commercial company, or preferably from an education establishment

Sven Guckes <guckes@math.fu-berlin.de> suggested looking in
alt.internet.access.wanted (unfortunately I've been too busy to do so !)

Nigel Bruce <n.bruce@mailer.leeds.ac.uk> suggested email transfer (for
ftp, etc)

Sak Wathanasin <sw@network-analysis-ltd.co.uk> suggested I ask
cliff@demon.co.uk to ask about their news/Internet service. The repy to
a query to this address is given below:

Cliff Stanford <cliff@demon.co.uk> gave me details of demons connections
service (THE INTERNET FOR A TENNER-A-MONTH) (<-quoted from the signature
!). They offer SLIP or PPP access to the internet. This include (quote,
quote) "free international mail, free bi-directional usenet news and ftp
access to any Internet site in the world". The charges ? An intial
#12.50 (sterling) joining fee, and then #10.00 (sterling) per month
(both plus VAT). These are "collected monthly in advance from your
credit card"
The full address for demon might be useful here:
Demon Systems Limited,
42 Hendon Lane,
London,
N3 1TT,
England.
Phone (voice ?) 081 349-0063

Once again, I would like to thank all those who answered. My fear of
losing net access has now subsided somewhat ;-) .

-Jon

--
Jonathon Fletcher          | "Now why can't I think of a good quote
Stirling University        |  to put on my mail signature ?"
jfl@compsci.stirling.ac.uk |                    - me !
jf1@stirling.ac.uk         |

Usual disclaimer applies here !

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 16:46:03 -0500
From: chai@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Using QuickTime Compression with SuperPaint 3.0

SuperPaint 3.0 can save in PICT format, but when it does, it doesn't
seem to take advantage of QuickTime compression.

Is there any program out there (or even, a SuperPaint file filter) that
can take either a PICT file or a SuperPaint file and save it as a QT
compressed PICT?

Please email and I'll summarize.

Thanks,

Ian <chai@cs.uiuc.edu>

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 01:27:42 -0400
From: rwk@crl.dec.com
Subject: Various replies

I've got answers for a bunch of questions, and I was going to send them
all as one message since that's convenient, but I decided that was sure
to cause someone grief somewhere.

But first, a question (and tongue-in-cheek response) of my own,
for Jon Pugh:

    Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 20:57:39 -0700
    From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
    Subject: [*] ToggleAT v2

    AppleTalk sucks batteries.

You said a mouthful!  I especially like the one where I have to reboot twice
to turn it on after using a comm program; once to unload the serial driver,
and once to load the Appletalk code.

But I'd make it:  "AppleTalk sucks dead batteries!"

But thanks a lot for this useful tool.  But can you tell me if in 7.1
we'll be able to just turn it on and off without having to reboot if
it was on when we booted?

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 22:48:26 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: Various replies

The way AppleTalk works should be the same from now on.  If it is on when
you boot then you can turn it on and off as you like because it is loaded
in memory.  If you turn it off and reboot, it will not be loaded into
memory and you will have to reboot to turn it on.  This is how it behaves
in 7.0 and 7.0.1 tuned and in 7.1.  My ToggleAT FKEY turns it on and off,
regardless of whether it was loaded, although you still have to reboot if
it wasn't loaded.

> I especially like the one where I have to reboot twice
> to turn it on after using a comm program; once to unload the serial driver,
> and once to load the Appletalk code.

I'm not clear on this.  Are you using the the printer port for serial
communications because of the serial port bug?  Apparently 7.1 is supposed
to fix this bug, although there is a PowerBook Tuner being distributed
by some of the modem people that is supposed to fix it also.  I don't really
know the definitive score on this one, but I haven't seen the problems
myself.

If you _are_ rebooting for this reason, I recommend holding down the shift
key to speed things up.  Since you are just going to reboot again, it
doesn't matter.

Jon

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 02:09:28 -0400
From: Bob Kerns <rwk@crl.dec.com>
Subject: Various replies

    Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 22:48:26 -0700
    From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>

    The way AppleTalk works should be the same from now on.  If it is on when
    you boot then you can turn it on and off as you like because it is loaded
    in memory.  If you turn it off and reboot, it will not be loaded into
    memory and you will have to reboot to turn it on.

This is a serious pain in a load-bearing portion of my anatomy.
On both in my Mac II and my PowerBook I frequently use my "printer"
(sic) port for other purposes (MIDI on my Mac II, modem on my
PowerBook).  Let me urge making it dynamically loadable, or if
that is really infeasible, provide a way for it to be loaded, and
then not turned on, at boot time, *regardless of what the state
was at shutdown*.

The current policy is not well-thought-out at all.

    I'm not clear on this.  Are you using the the printer port for serial
    communications because of the serial port bug?

No, I'm using it because *it is the only serial port I have*.
I have a PowerBook 100 (along with everyone I know, it seems,
including one person who sold his 140 to buy a 100).

    If you _are_ rebooting for this reason, I recommend holding down the shift
    key to speed things up.  Since you are just going to reboot again, it
    doesn't matter.

Yes, I already do this; it's still a pain.  *I should not have to reboot
at all*.  Let alone twice.

It's nearly impossible as a user to figure out how to get feedback
like this into Apple.  (When I was a developer (at huge $$) it didn't
seem to be any better; I couldn't even figure out how to get them
to fix my AppleLink billing, sigh).  It's folks like yourself who are
the only functional communications path us ordinary folks have with
Apple.  That's why we hit you with all this stuff.  I hope your
company appreciates the good will your efforts buy!

If you can figure out how to forward my comments usefully, I and several
other frustrated users around here would appreciate it.  If not, I can
certainly sympathize.

And if you happen to even be the right person yourself, well, that's
great, and I'd be happy to discuss why or even how offline.

Again, thanks for your efforts on this list.

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Date: 13 Oct 92 11:54:19 U
From: "Capp Luckett" <capper@atqm.advtech.uswest.com>
Subject: WAISTATION 0.6.2

   Inter-Department Memo
SUBJECT:   WAISTATION 0.6.2                               10/13/92     11:38
AM
Fellow "Macites" and server searchers:

Is there a more current version of the Waistation 0.6.2 interface for
searching
the WAIS databases?
If so is it on an FTP site?  If not is there a package out there that will do
the same functionality?

Thankyou

Please respond to my e-mail:

Capp Luckett
U S WEST Advanced Technologies
capper@atqm.advtech.uswest.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 08:36:57 EDT
From: Lee Hartley <N640027@UNIVSCVM.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU>
Subject: word temp files

Two questions about temp files when using Word.  What is the name of the
program which automatically removes them?  Also, how are they created. A
friend mentioned recently that he has over 150 on his drive.  I assume
that it is related to how he shuts down the machine since I rarely have
over 7 or 8 temp files at any one time.  Thanks for any help and
suggestions.

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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92   1:03 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: World Script and System 7.1

Simple question - will I get a simple answer?  Can existing System 7.0 and
maybe even System 6 foreign language scripts be plugged directly into
System 7.1 with WorldScript present?  Or does WorldScript also necessitate
buying a whole new set of foreign language versions of 7.1 so you can get
new WorldScript-savvy scripts?

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