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From: chrisc@biggus.moron.vware.mn.org (Chris Cox  W0/G4JEC)
Subject: Re: SW Broadcasting in ham bands
Organization: Twin Cities Metro Area Network, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 14:47:21 GMT

gdo@aloft.att.com (Glenn O'Donnell) writes:
>   6 Meters - Amateur exclusive in all but IARU region 1 (Europe, Africa,
>              and all of Russia). Region 1 uses 6 Meters for broadcasting only.
> 
>
Slight change here.  There are now a number of Region 1 countries that have
made the 6 metre band available to amateurs on either a primary or secondary
basis, nder the provision that they do not cause interference to either
land mobile, fixed, or broadcast service's of neighbouring counries.
Some example's being Great Britain, Spain (I think), possibly Germany.

There is also the 4 metre band which you didn't mention, however, that is
only available to amateur's in Great Britain, Gibraltar, and one amateur
beacon station in Cyprus.
 
> Congratulations on getting your ticket.  Welcome to the ranks.
> 
>     -- Glenn O'Donnell  N3BDA      Internet:   gdo@aloft.att.com
>        AT&T Bell Laboratories        Packet: n3bda@n3dpu.pa.usa.na

73 Chris
-- 
73  Chris Cox  W0/G4JEC
chrisc@biggus.g4jec.tcman.ampr.org     chrisc@biggus.moron.vware.mn.org
 Eleventh Hour Contest Group - North American Chapter; Minneapolis, MN
   Twin Cities Metro Area Network node (biggus.g4jec.tcman.ampr.org)
From: taber@ultnix.mro1.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:54:07 GMT
Reply-To: taber@ultnix.mro1.dec.com (Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber)
Organization: KC1TD@KB4N.NH.USA.NA.EARTH.SOLAR_SYSTEM.UNIVERSE.MIND_OF_GOD.01463


In article <1992Nov18.194424.1930@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little) writes:
|>                                                        I make the claim
|>that the licensing singles out CW because almost everyone seems to agree
|>that the CW requirements take considerably more study time to pass than the
|>written exams, thus placing an inordinate amount of emphasis on CW.

I believe you're essentially right, but I think the point is not to push
code per se.  The idea I think that code proponents
have is that for most people, the easiest way to meet the higher
code speed requirement is to get on an operate. Thus, upgrading usually
implies that you've been on the air for a while operating and learning to be
a ham.  So a higher grade of license doesn't just imply the ability to read
the (ridiculously simple) technical literature, but also some operating experience.

Now, we know that for the microcosm of the usenet, this is probably not true.
Your basic introverted, computer junkie will sit in front of a PC "learning
the code" without learning anything about operating.  The net result ;-) is
an Extra with no operating skills at all.

There are only two realistic choices available to hams -- keep the requirement
or dump it.  Talking about replacing it with some rocco scheme that will
"insure" hams have some operating experience is hopelessly naive. 

So should we dump it because it's flawed?  Or keep it because sometimes it
works?  I don't have a firm opinion.  I think that most "textbook Extras"
don't get on the air anyway, and so there's no real impact to having them
around.  On the other hand, I believe it is desirable to have some mechanism
that pushes people to get experience.  It used to be safe to rely on pride, but
now it seems everything has to be motivated by regulation.  I don't have
an answer.


--
                                             >>>==>PStJTT
                                     Patrick St. Joseph Teahan Taber, KC1TD

I skied hell
From: ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld)
Subject: University of Pennsylvania???
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:05:46 GMT


Hello all netters!  This weekend, my fiancee, Chris (N3MXZ) and I (NF3I) are
going to be at the Society of Women Engineers conference at the University
of Pennsylvania in Philly.  This weekend is ALSO the November SSB sweep-
stakes contest.  I wonder if there is a radio club at the U of Penn, whether
or not there's a repeater where club members hang out, and/or if there 
will be an effort to work the contest.  Thanks for the help!

Scott NF3I

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: oswood@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Mark Oswood)
Subject: SW Broadcasting on amateur bands
Keywords: Radio Moscow, Loud
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:40:37 GMT


After several years of SWL'ing, I finally overcame my inertia and passed the
exam for my Tech. license (with code, if you must know).  While waiting for
the FCC to mail my license I was tuning around on my SW receiver last night and discovered Radio Moscow broadcasting in AM on 7150 khz.  I now realize that 
this is the edge of the Novice code band.

Is it common for major international broadcasters to use bands assigned to hams?
I thought that this was a primary amateur band allocation.  Is this true only in
the U.S.?  Does this often cause interference to amateur operations?  I expect 
to have some difficulty keeping up with the boys with kilowatt amps once I
get on the air, but 500,000 watts from Central Asia really seems a 
little unfair. :-)
-----------
Mark C. Oswood			oswood@psun.chem.yale.edu
			or 	moswood@biomed.bitnet
No disclaimers need apply.




Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Organization: very little
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:46:21 GMT
Keywords: brando

In article <1e8hbuINNi2j@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.023624.2243@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov13.163017.5016@linus.mitre.org> m14494@mwvm.mitre.org  
>(Mike White) writes:
>> >> I've heard that Marlon Brando is a ham.
>> >
>> >The on-line callsign server lists no hams named "Brando".
>> 
>> Check for MARLIN BRANDEAUX.  I'm serious!
>>  
>> -- 
>>  Tad Cook     |  Phone:  206-527-4089  (home)     |   MCI Mail: 3288544   
>>  Seattle, WA  |  Packet: KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA   |    
>3288544@mcimail.com 
>>               |  Internet: tad@ssc.com           or...sumax!ole!ssc!tad  
>
>
>****   You will need a FOREIGN callsign server.
>
>If there is one, please let me know how to use it.
>
>tnx es 73 de K9CUN, Jack 


Why would you need a FOREIGN callsign server to look up a holder
of a call that starts with WB6??


-- 
 Tad Cook     |  Phone:  206-527-4089  (home)     |   MCI Mail: 3288544   
 Seattle, WA  |  Packet: KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA   |   3288544@mcimail.com 
              |  Internet: tad@ssc.com           or...sumax!ole!ssc!tad
From: ron@topaz.bds.com (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need first date of an old Call: WA2SDY  Syracuse Univ. ARC
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:50:27 GMT
Organization: BDS Systems
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: topaz.bds.com
Keywords: Call book, old calls

> Some of the ham databases say "Ham since" on their info.

Nope, the date in the database is the last time that you changed anything.
The FCC doesn't keep track that.

-Ron
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: waco@cbnewse.cb.att.com (john.l.broughton)
Subject: xxx
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:58:36 GMT


>Subject: Re: Third Party Traffic Question
In message <1992Nov16.223713.5666@news.columbia.edu> baw2@cunixb.cc.columbia
.edu (Bruce A Weisberg) writes
>
>
>	A third party is NOT a licensed amateur!
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  If I remember the rules correctly, a third party is anyone other
  than the control operator of an amateur radio station.  A few years
  ago, rule changes were made to allow for third party traffic between
  countries with no third party agreement if the third party was a
  ham.  Before this, it was illegal to, say, have a QSO with a station
  in Russia (no third party agreement with the U.S.) and give that person
  traffic for another ham in Russia.  Now, it is legal to do so.  In fact,
  this type of traffic had been going on for some time before the rule
  changes.  How many DXpeditions have been planned and executed with
  hams in different countries passing traffic?

  Third party traffic is traffic for anyone other than the control operator
  of the station.  The anyone other includes the ham's family, anyone visiting
  in the shack, etc.

  Example of illegal third party traffic, given me by a doctor with many
  years experience in an HF medical net.  A ham in Sweden is camping and
  has an HF rig.  He breaks his leg and needs medical attention.  A U.S.
  station (no third party agreement between Sweden and the U.S.) has a QSO
  with him and pass on his request to authorities, that is illegal third
  party traffic.  Third party traffic rules many times have no relaxation
  when it comes to emergencies.  The FCC allows any means of communcation
  in an emergency, but that applies to the U.S. only, not international rules.

>	Third parties are those without licenses, ie, message traffic,
>	phone patches.  Aggrements re third parties are concerned with
>	skirting public telecommunications, not which *licensed* ham
>	talks on which frquency.  (see: FCC rules regarding "control
>	operators")
>
>
>	Bruce
>
>	KA2TYX


John L. Broughton
AT&T
Naperville, IL
john.l.broughton@att.com
att!john.l.broughton

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics
From: joe@netcom.com (Joseph Jesson)
Subject: Re: Using MC3362 for a SuperHet Receiver
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:32:24 GMT



 The resonant ckt is basically an inductor plus cap (plus built-in
 varactor) and used the Fr=1/2pi*sqrtlc formula.  The first LO and
 second LO is internal to the chip.  While the first LO can tie to
 a synthesizer chip, the internal osc will work quite well with
 the switched LC.  The second LO is XTAL controlled (10.245 Mhz -
 10.7 - 455Khz = 10.245).

 Motorola destributors can get the parts.  The MC3363 is a surface
 mount chip (with RF stage) while the 3362 is a DIP...


 --joe jesson

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: Forwarding "Rationale for CW testing  (Wayne Green are you listen
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:37:41 GMT

Terry Alford writes:
> 1.  Some type of testing that generally demands... commitment 
>from candidate HAMs is desirable because it helps reduce the 
>likelihood of irresponsible operation... an attempt to filter out poor >prospects...

I have to disagree with you here, Terry.  First, let me state that I 
am a longtime ham (read: Old Fart), and that I like to operate CW
a lot.  Having said that, I take issue with the notion of CW as
a "filter" to exclude "poor prospects".  While it is true that having
to learn CW "filters out" some folks who don't want their license 
badly enough, that was never the intent of the test.  One of the 
principal reasons for hams having their bands in the first place
is that the amateur radio service provides a pool of self-trained,
self-equipped radio operators who can serve their country in
time of emergency or war.  Morse was a highly relevant requirement
at that time, as CW was one of the principal operating modes, both
in government and military service, as well as amateur service.
The requirement, then, was to assure competent operators, not 
just to make hams jump through a hoop to get their ticket.  I don't
know the right answer to the Code/No-Code question, but I *do*
know that amateur exams should test for the skills deemed 
necessary for hams to responsibly use their privledges, and to
efficiently fulfill their obligation to serve their community
or country if called upon to do so.

Mike, N4PDY

************************
* These are my opinions only.*
************************
From: rick@lrark.UUCP (Rick Mobley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: SAREX STATION
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:14:27 GMT
Organization: Little Rock Arkansas Tech User Group

In article <1992Nov13.100229.1@ualr.edu> pmstuckey@ualr.edu writes:
 >Hey Netters!
 >
 >The Ualr Amateur Radio Club (Still in forming process) 
 >is interested in setting up a SAREX Station.  Is There anyone out there that 
 >can helps us?  I would be interested in getting any info, wisdom, advice, 
 >comments.  Please mail all respnoses to: 
 >
 >			PMSTUCKEY@UALR.EDU
 >
Pete, contact Gary Hollenbaugh WB8YSE here in Little Rock. He is the AMSAT
coordinator and will be happy to work with you to get the group involved 
in Satellite communications. His phone is 661-8587 (work). Tell him I sent
you...

73 - Rick, WB5FDP

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Ricky Mobley             *          lrark (501) 224-9454             *
1800 Sanford Dr. #4      *    GEnie Unix RT SysOp address LRARK      *
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From: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: orbital elements for earths moon
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:26:50 GMT
Reply-To: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Broadcast Sports Technology, Crofton. Maryland.

In article <araichel.721576109@cser> araichel@cser.encore.com (Alan Raichel) writes:
 >
 >	I saw a post saying that a EME specail events station will be on the
 >air Nov 14 and 15 using a 150' dish.  They claim that an OSCAR class station 
 >should be able to recieve these signal.  Since I have a OSCAR class station, 
 >I would like to give it a try.  

I was at the Naval Acadamy station for the contest (W3ADO). We worked quite
a few stations on 70cm but never heard a peep out of the Canadians. 
We had a 10 Metre dish, so I would have expected to hear something!
Does anyone know if they were there??

-- 
Michael Katzmann                  >   Broadcast Sports Technology Inc.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~	         <    Crofton, Maryland. U.S.A
Amateur Radio Stations:           >     
NV3Z / VK2BEA / G4NYV / AAR3VK   <    opel!vk2bea!michael@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Jim_Sollows@mindlink.bc.ca (Jim Sollows)
Subject: VF7L Special Event Nov 19-22
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:18:40 GMT

                  November 19 - 22 1992 0700 - 2100

                     Special Event Station VF7L
                    Fort Langley British Columbia

Special Event Station VF7L will be operating, commemorating the founding
of Fort Langley 50km East of Vancouver. 135 years ago the first explorers
set shore and established a Fort at this location. This Fort was the
settlement of what is now Vancouver, one of Canada's largest cities. Today
Fort Langley is a small scenic townsite located near the actual restored
Fort.

We will be operating on all bands and contacts will be able to receive
a wall certificate commemorating the event as well as a QSL card. The
certificate and card have been designed by the great grandson of the
native chief that welcomed the new settlers and helped to establish
the Fort.

We hope to hear you on the air. I personally will be operating from the
site at Fort Langley on Saturday 0900-1100 PST on 20 meter and 15 meter
phone. Others will operate as many bands as possible and in both phone
and CW modes. Please drop me a note if you have any questions. 73

Jim VE7JLS

 J.L.Sollows

 Internet - Jim_Sollows@mindlink.bc.ca
 Packet - VE7JLS@VE7KIT.#VANC.BC.CAN.NA
From: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FR5AI/G QRT
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:04:18 GMT
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In a QSO with W4FOA on 16 November, FR5AI announced he was going QRT
from Glorioso that day.  Any news of future rumored trips to Tromelin
was not made available.  73, Tom WB4IUX

--
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code (and MicroSats)
From: paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us (paul)
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:50:30 GMT
Organization: CrossRoads in Elizabeth, PA

paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty) writes:

> >>Isn't amazing how none of the arguments for REQUIRING Morse Code hold
> >>water??

> >Any water held by this argument? Ever try communicating by phone 
> >with a 500 Hz bandpass?  And think about how many such narrow
> >band passes can be accommodated in a given frequency band?
> 
> One argument in favor of the CW requirement is that it's much, much easier to
> build a machine that interprets CW than one that recognizes speech.

And it's much, much easier to build a machine that decodes FSK reliably 
than one for Morse.

I don't suppose that you've ever tried using a Morse decoder before, 
because if you did, you'd know that they don't work worth a darn on 
anything other than a clear channel on perfect (keyer-sent) code.


> Consider, for example, a microsat with a (non-packet) store - and - forward

Why the exclusion?  Because the PACSATS do that already?
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:22:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Paddle usage
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, seligman@CS.Stanford.EDU (Scott Seligman) writes:

>I'm curious if right-handed hams always use their right hands when
>using a paddle, or if some of you prefer your left (perhaps to free up
>your right to write).  Lefties please reverse all of that (what's
>right is what's left when you've done everything wrong).

I can send with either hand.  I can "sort of" write with the right hand
while sending with the left.  Dave Sumner K1ZZ is the most amazing 
"ambi" operator I have ever seen.  A lefty, he can send right handed
while keeping the log left handed -- the resulting handwriting is
better than I can do by recopying!

>Is it standard usage for the "dit" to be made with the thumb, or do
>I have that backward?

That's right.

>Any ambidextrous paddlers out there?  Do you reverse the paddle
>(dit/dah-wise) when switching hands?

Yes.  Or just lay my left hand over the top of the paddle so I can
key it "backwards."

>When sending a "C", for instance, do you hit each paddle twice, or
>do you hit each once and hold 'em?

I've never really mastered iambic keying.  I hit each paddle twice.

>So many questions...

Finally, a question I'm an expert on! :=)

AL N1AL

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gpmh@pool.sunyit.edu (Patrick Hurley)
Subject: FT-890AT Mods
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:02:04 GMT

I am considering the purchase of an FT-890AT and was wondering if anyone 
knows of the MARS mods for this rig.  Also, does this open up transmit 
for the full range of receive frequencies or just certain segments?  Any
general comments on this rig would be appreciated. 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wws@craywr.cray.com (Walter Spector)
Subject: Re: Is This Really Necessary?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:52:12 CST

> The odd thing was, nobody was using the frequency (as far as I could tell.)  By
> what right does someone camp out on a frequency that's obviously in demand and
> claim it's busy when it's obviously not?  Use it or lose it, bud.

Probably a contest hater who wanted to keep his daily sked with
his pals so they could compare 'roids?

Walt
----
Walt Spector					QRZ SS, WA6 Green Fuzzy Yogurt!
(wws@renaissance.cray.com)
Sunnyvale, California
_._ _._ _.... _. ._.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan)
Subject: Re: TS850SAT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:22:34 GMT

In article <+bv1q!g@rpi.edu> maessm@rpi.edu writes:
>We have an 850S here at W2SZ (the RPI amateur radio club).  It's a really smooth rig.  good receiver, good transmitted audio, easy to use.
>
>I have two peeves about the rig: The internal speaker is marginal as far as sound quality, so you'd better get an external speaker.  Also with the bar graph metering scheme, it's hard to tell what your power output is.

My experience has been quite the opposite.  The peak-hold feature of the bar
graph (turned on by one of the rom switches) makes it easy to note the power.

Rajiv                                 
aa9ch    
Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu
Phone:   None. Only CW.
And occasionally AMTOR.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: nk30@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (JEFF ZELL NK3O)
Subject: Linear Loading of antennas
Organization: AT&T-BL,READING,PA.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:32:20 GMT
Keywords: Information, Sources, Examples, Articles, Where can I find them?


	Hello

	I have been playing with a linear loaded 80 meter dipole because of 
property size limits. I have been looking for articles about linear loading of
dipoles and even verticals with no sucess. Does anyone know where I could find
information about linear loaded antennas? One source has been Low Band DXing
however, it dosen't explain how you derive the spacing and fold back length.
Why is linear loading not a popular method of making antennas? From everything
I have read a linear loaded antenna, has less radiated power loss than an 
inductively loaded or trapped antenna. Is it a problem of mechanics 
(construction problems)? 
			Thank you
			Jeff Zell
			NK3O


Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer)
Subject: Re: cw cw cw
Organization: QRM Central
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:34:54 GMT

From article <199211181417.AA29783@tilde.csc.ti.com>, by dube@cpdvax.CSc.ti.COM:
> I expect that many, of not most, of the SS players use automatic keyers with
> the exchanges programmed in; and that not a few of them do their copying with
> a computer...                                                            

I couldn't tell you about SS but, in the DX contests, most of the
serious operators use K1EA's CT program or the equivalent.  This
will generate a "keyer" output for the transmitter, including
programmed exchanges.  However, I don't know of ANY serious contester
that copies with a computer.

73,
Bob

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: garnet@borland.com (Garnet Chaney)
Subject: Re: Clean photocell light switch
Originator: garnet@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:07:27 GMT

In article <B5geuB2w165w@seanews.akita.com> peterk@seanews.akita.com (Peter A. Klein) writes:
>Does anybody know of a brand of photocell switch that screws into
>a light socket, turns a light bulb on at night and off during the
>day, but does not generate RFI? If so, where could I get it?
> 

Ill have to check at a house I was staying at this summer. I noticed no
obnoxious noises in my reciever, but now that I think about it the light
switch also included a motion detector.  Although I know it wasn 't bothering
my reception, I know that everytime I'd transmit I'd trip it, and at night
the light would come on. 

- Garnet   KC6YKE