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From: newton@convex.com (Vicki Newton)
Subject: Re: cotton diapers that don't stink?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:51:16 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown) asks:

>> At my first birthing class last night, a representative from a 
>> diaper service gave a short presentation.  She claimed that 
>> because their diapers are treated with something that does not 
>> let bacteria grow, they don't stink.
...
>> The representative swears that THE DIAPERS DO NOT STINK.
>> Could this be possible?

we've been using cloth diapers for all of alex's first year (1st
birthday in 2 days!!! YOW) and i can vouch for what the rep said.
the cloth diapers do NOT stink.  it is just what little junior
leaves in them that stinks! :-)

truthfully, though, the diapers only smell as bad as what you
put in them.  this sounds like a joke but i'm serious.  our diaper
pail came with a freshener inside it and the service replaces that 
every month or so when they make a delivery.  that helps somewhat.
but no diaper pre-treatment is going to spare you from a big
stinky poop.

>> I might try the cotton diapers, provided the daycare I choose 
>> will go along with it, which is another problem.

most daycare facilities won't deal with cloth diapers.  alex goes
to a private home for daycare and our babysitter accepted the cloth
diapers from the start (but she bitched about them all the time).
finally i decided that i liked the babysitter enough to work a
compromise with myself.  alex now wears disposables at daycare and
the second i get her home i put her in my wonderful (but not stink
free) cloth diapers.

veek
From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Breastpump question and recommendations
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:35:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

sylvia@maple.njit.edu (sylvia gray) writes:
|> I figured I would use the breast pump to obtain and store milk
|> while I am at work.  I would like to know if there are other mothers who
|> are doing this or have done this and any recommendations of breast pumps
|> and well, suggestions in general for this since this is my first.

I sent Sylvia the FAQ file on breastpumps.  If anyone else would like
it, please let me know.  (If you have something to add that isn't in 
the FAQ, please send it to me as well as to Sylvia.  If your comments
are already in the FAQ, then she now has them :-)

--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: derion@VAX309.NOSC.MIL (Toni Derion)
Subject: Re: The Mouse and the Motorcycle
Reply-To: derion@VAX309.NOSC.MIL
Organization: Naval Health Research Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:26:12 GMT

In article <C0FuyA.8C@ocsmd.ocs.com>, mark@ocsmd.ocs.com (Mark Wilson) writes:
>I would also be interested in this information, as we loved the movie,
>too... I tried to email Toni, but her mail bounced (may be my 
>system's fault, I dunno), so could whoever has the info. please
>post it here!
>

I forgot to include my CORRECT e-mail address in my post, since for
some reason the net posts it wrong.  I don't know if I can get a
better $ deal on The Mouse and the Motorcycle going through my
cousins (who worked on the film), but I'll see what I can do.

Those interested can e-mail me at  derion@vax309.nhrc.navy.mil

Toni
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: millerj@belize.crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: How do you get a 7 month old to stay still!!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:59:02 GMT
Reply-To: millerj@belize.crd.ge.com ()
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Corporate Research & Development


	Corey will be 7 months Jan 13th and we've had a devil of a time trying
to get him to lie still to dress him, change his diaper, etc.  I've tried
making faces at him, giving him a toy, having one person hold him down, etc.
Once he could turn over both ways and crawl he's impossible to pin down.
	Now I have to give him cough medicine and drops in his eyes.  He used
to take his vitamins in a dropper really well but now it's impossible to
do without getting half of it on his face/clothes/hands.  It takes one 
person to hold his head and one person to try to pry his mouth open and
shove the dropper in.  He tries to clench his jaw and jerk his head the
whole time.  I do the eye drops when he's drinking so I can usually get
one eye without him noticing.
	HELP!! Is there a trick to doing this?

Thanks,  Julia
From: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Laying newborn on stomach
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:56:34 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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In article <1993Jan6.205818.29421@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, jschwarz@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jan A. Schwarz) writes:
> Well, I'm still not a Grandmother yet but any time now.
> 
> What are the thoughts about laying a baby on its stomach or back?
> 
> Back when mine were born you were always suppose to put them on their
> stomach to keep them from having a flat head in the back.
> 
> I'm not sure this is the way it's done now.  Any thoughts on this from
> all of you out there?

The official line used to be that they would choke to death if you lay
them on their backs and then they spit up, so you HAD to place them on their
tummies.

Now the official line is that choking doesn't happen unless the kid has some
unlikely problem, but that SIDS is a teeny-tiny bit more likely if
you lay them face down, so you MUST place them on their backs or sides.

The only sensible thing to do is go along with what agrees with the baby,
and forget the experts except insofar as making sure the mattress is firm, 
and there are no pillows or heavy blankets to smother in. If you're the
extreme worry-wart type, you can buy a couple of weighted bags, connected 
with a strip of cloth, to wedge the child into position on his/her side 
whether s/he likes it or not.

I always tried to put Will on his side, and at first he insisted that he
be on his back. Once he was able to roll either way, though, so he no longer
felt stuck there, he insisted on being on his tummy to sleep.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: willis@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Re: Predict your next child`s sex
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:08:11 GMT

[sex-prediction chart deleted]
Well, I was amused to find that my son is really a girl! :-) :-) :-)
(He was conceived in February, when I was 37)
			Sue Willis
			willis@sscxv1.ssc.gov

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Tamara Shaffer <SASTLS@mvs.sas.com>
Subject: Re: How do you get a 7 month old to stay still!!!
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:02:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

>in article: <1993Jan6.145902.25526@crd.ge.com> miller@belize.crd.ge.com
> wrote: 
>
>
>        Corey will be 7 months Jan 13th and we've had a devil of a time
>trying to get him to lie still to dress him, change his diaper, etc.
>I've tried making faces at him, giving him a toy, having one person
>hold him down, etc.  Once he could turn over both ways and crawl he's
>impossible to pin down.
>        Now I have to give him cough medicine and drops in his eyes.
>He used to take his vitamins in a dropper really well but now it's
>impossible to do without getting half of it on his face/clothes/hands.
>It takes one person to hold his head and one person to try to pry his
>mouth open and shove the dropper in.  He tries to clench his jaw and
>jerk his head the whole time.  I do the eye drops when he's drinking so
>I can usually get one eye without him noticing.
>        HELP!! Is there a trick to doing this?
>
>Thanks,  Julia
 
As far as trying to get him to be still, I doubt if you can.  You just
learn to be faster than they are.  Melissa settled down around 12 months
and started cooperating.  She still has her moments when she's pulling
one sock off as soon as I'm putting the second on, but from my mother's
descriptions of what it was like trying to dress/change me, she's a
little angel.
 
Giving Melissa medicine was horrible for her first year.  She'd
scream, flail her arms, gag, and throw up whatever we got down her
90% of the time.  Horrible.  One day, she decided medicine was an
okay deal and she usually cooperates now.  Forcing it down her throat
was unpleasant for all of us, so we tried mixing it with 1-2 oz. of
milk which almost always worked.  Even if she didn't drink it all, she
got more than she would have if we forced it down her since she could
spit out so much.  Finally, we found (at the grocery store) a little
bottle-like container (about 1 oz) with a nipple that fit over the
mouth of the container.  It worked great, and usually by the time she
realized it was medicine, she'd already sucked it down.  They had one
at her daycare soon after too.  Nowadays, if she sees me open the
cabinet where her medicine is, or sees me take it out of her bag, etc.,
she'll cry if I don't give her any!  Crazy baby.  I think your child
will eventually come around, but I'd try the milk trick (formula, etc),
and look for that little sucker if I were you.
 
Good luck!
TAMARA
mommy to Melissa (5/1/91) and ? (due 5/8/93)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: rozsa@cs.sfu.ca (Rozsa Eniko)
Subject: Peg Perego strollers
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:54:54 GMT

Hi everybody,

I am expecting our first baby and we just started our 7th month.
(The baby is due on the 7th of April). So far my pregnancy was great,
no complaints from my side. 

My husband and me figured that it's about time to get baby equipments.
I looked around for strollers among many other things (BTW thanks for
all your contribution to the baby stuff FAQ file), and most people
were recommending getting a good stroller since it will be used
for a long time. In some stores I came across with a Peg Perego 
stroller called Milano. It is pretty expensive comparing to other
available models (it costs about twice as much), though it looks much 
sturdier and stronger. I wonder if anybody has experience with this
type of stroller. Is it worthed to invest in it, is it really that much
better? We definitely want to get a good stroller, we are just wondering
if this is a really good choice.

Thanks for any information,

Eniko Rozsa		\//	Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC, Canada
rozsa@cs.sfu.ca	       (. .)		phone: (604) 291-3440
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From: elonich@cbnewse.cb.att.com (diane.e.pedersen)
Subject: Re: airport waiting area
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:01:20 GMT
Summary: get there by subway!


Part of the fun of an airport visit can be how you get there.
We made a trip to Ohare when my son was 2 by parking at an
elevated station and taking the L in and out of the airport.
What fun to ride a train!
-- 
Diane Pedersen
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
att!ihlpe!elonich
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: steve@microware.com (Steve Guntly)
Subject: Re: Chicken Pox
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:47:41 GMT

eal@dg.UUCP (Erik Lee) writes:
>My wife says that it is a common thing for parents to intentionally expose
>their children to chickenpox before they hit puberty, after which it can cause
>sterility, and, it sounds like, is just generally more serious. I'd never heard
>of anyone doing this, though i guess it sounds like it makes sense. Does
>anybody
>out there do this?

>Erik

Well, Danielle (4 YO) is just getting over the chickenpox, and
Courtney (2 YO) should be getting them this weekend.  Our babysitter
(my wife works outside the home one day each week) encouraged us
to bring the girls over anyway, as she wants her youngest (age 2
[almost 3]) to get them before school.  Her other three kids have
already had them, and all of the other kids that she watches have
had them, so there would appear to be limited exposure to other
parties.

In short, yes people do this (rather miss time in preschool than
"real" school)...

					Steve Guntly
					Daddy to Danielle (4.83 YO)
					     and Courtney (2.42 YO)

Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: Tamara Shaffer <SASTLS@mvs.sas.com>
Subject: Re: Turning a breech baby
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:34:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.

>in article <1993Jan8.180020.15625@cbfsb.cb.att.com> Valerie Thompson
> writes:
>
>
>I'd be
>interested in hearing from anyone whose baby didn't turn, and who did
>have a vaginal delivery.  My 3rd child was breech at 38 weeks - we were
>getting ready to attempt to turn her - but my midwife & the doctors she
>worked with didn't even discuss a C-section.  Is it only because it was
>my 3rd, and I'd already had 2 8+ lb. babies?  Before that time, I
>thought that a breech automatically meant a C-section.  (I gave a lot
>of thought to the pain involved in having a breech baby vaginally...I'm
>glad I didn't have to experience it first hand!)  Has anyone had a
>breech baby vaginally?
>
>Valerie 
>
 
Hi Valerie.
 
I was a breech baby born vaginally.  I came out bottom first with
my feet up over my shoulders.  Needless to say, I'm also an only
child.  My mother's gyn tells her that they never would have allowed
that to happen today.  (I was born in 1966.)  I was also 8 weeks
early, weighing in at 5 lb. 9 oz.
 
TAMARA
mommy to Melissa (5/1/91) and ? (due 5/8/93)
...they knew I was a girl before they knew if I had a head!
From: valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: federal record service corp
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:25:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
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In article <u7bhi5s@zola.esd.sgi.com> gboja@romenda.esd.sgi.com (Glenda Ramil) writes:
>hi all,
>
>Has anyone heard or dealt with "Federal Record Service Corp"?
>I thought I read some discussions about them a while back but
>I'm not sure.  The reason I am asking is that I recieved something
>from them through the mail.  It is basically an application for
>my baby's SSN (ie.  they will process the paperwork for you for
>a $15.00 fee).  I'm wondering if they're legit.
>
>thanks for any info.
>
>-- 
>
>**************************************************************************
>
>Glenda Boja Ramil			"No one can make you feel inferior
>gboja@esd.sgi.com			 without your consent"

DON'T DO IT!  Unless, of course, your time is more important than the
$15.  They just send you the form to fill out, which you can pick up
yourself at the SS office.  I did that to change my name after I
got married and just felt stupid that I thought it was necessary.
At the time, the $15 was no big deal.  I went down to the SS office,
filled out the form, showed them the birth certificate and hospital
bill (seems you need two things showing the baby was really born,
like the 10 lb. boy in his carseat wasn't proof enough) and got his
number in about 3 weeks.  

Yes, they are legit, just not necessary.

Valerie
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From: house@helios.usq.EDU.AU (ron house)
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Organization: University of Southern Queensland
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:26:01 GMT

mcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark A. Cochran) writes:

>Tell me Mark, have you ever had an SO with pierced ears? And if so,
>did you refer to them as "mutilated"? 
>By the logic you post above, I'm certain you should have....

Well I for one do!  But what people do to their _OWN_ ears is their _OWN_
business!  Ditto for all other self-mutilation, and anti-ditto for all
mutilation of other people without their consent.

--

Ron House.                 USQ
(house@helios.usq.edu.au)  Toowoomba, Australia.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: The Schoo didn't fit
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:15:47 GMT

In article <24665@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Sandra Mergen) writes:
>
>Wasn't the week the Schoo parents gone during Christmas?  I
>think it was.  I feel that they are very horrible to leave
>their children alone, and especially horrible that they
>thought more about their vacation that their children's
>Christmas.

That's assuming this particular family celebrates Christmas.  I'm not
sure about their religious affiliation, if any.
>
>What on earth could be uncovered that would put them
>in a better light?

Everything uncovered so far puts them in a worse light.  It was reported
last week that Sharon Schoo also has a teenaged son whom she abandoned
and was later adopted  and lives in Aurora, Illinois.  He was interviewed
and said he'd like to see his birth mom again (he hasn't seen her since he
was about 5 when she gave him up) just to talk to her, and that he feels
sorry for her.  Nothing much more on that.
>
>Even if they had hired a sitter and the sitter didn't show up,
>the police had said that the Schoo parents didn't even call
>the girls to check up on them.

Doubtful they hired a sitter, given the lengthy instructions they
left for the girls.  Evidence that they INTENDED toleave them alone.
>
>I havn't seen anything lately in the local paper here, so if
>there is any more info on this case, please post.  I'm interested
>in what happens.

Chuck Gowdie (sp?) from our ABC station here in the Chicago area actually
went down to Acapulco to investigate, and turned up the item about them
checking out of one hotel and into another under an assumed name.  They
also have records of their pre-vacation phone calls but it didn't prove
anything or provide much information.  They did find that David Schoo lost
his pharmceutical license in the 70's for illegal possession and purchase
of controlled substances, but there was no evidence that the Schoo's went
to Mexico to try to set up a business there.

The story is now on the back burner, however, because of another news item
involving the murder of 7 people in a Brown's Chicken restaurant in
Palatine, Illinois.  Oprah Winfrey is supposed to be discussing the Schoo
issue on her program today (Jan 11).
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From: gbk@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (g.b.karlovsky)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Question on nighttime toilet training
Keywords: staying dry night
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:21:24 GMT
Organization: AT&T

My daughter Adrienne has been trying to toilet train for probably
3/4 of a year due to motivation at daycare.  About 3 weeks ago, we
noticed that on weekends she would inevitably stay dry, and about
75% of the time she would stay dry at night as well.

So the good news is that she has been in underwear for a week.
She hasn't had any accidents during the day and was dry at night
for 4 nights in a row...  so when she wanted to be put in underwear
at night, we said okay.  That was probably 5 nights ago.  She has
had accidents twice, at night only, and the thing that confuses
me is that she doesn't wake up.  She wets a little bit, but usually 
enough to get whatever she is laying on...  the first night that was 
bedclothes, sheet, pillowcase AND pillow (ARGH) and protective mattress
pad.  The second time it was bedclothes, sheet, two blankets (one for
comfort, one for warmth) and protective mattress pad.

She is very proud that she is underwear, I think it would disappoint her
alot to go back in diapers or pullups (she sees them the same) even for
just nights.  I notice NO difference in her drinking habits between when
she stays dry and when she does not, and she always goes to the bathroom
immediately before bed (sometimes more than once).

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Also, though she is wearing underwear, it seems we have to remind her 
to go to the bathroom alot, and I was curious what peoples opinions
were on whether we should stop reminding her and give her a chance
to show us she know when to go or have an accident, or whether it's more
important to help her remember and thus give her a little more self 
confidence before we put the responsibility entirely on her shoulders.

Last question...  has anyone had a child have an accident while in their
carseat?  I don't think our pad on the car seat detaches, so how would 
you clean urine off?

Preference to have e-mail reply...  I'll summarize if anyone wants.



	***********************************************************
	*							  *
	*   Gail Karlovsky	(gail.karlovsky@att.com)	  *
	*        		(mom to Adrienne - born 4/30/90)  *
	*							  *
	*							  *
	*   The ideas expressed here are mine and do not 	  *
	*   reflect the opinions of my employer.		  *
	*							  *
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From: rabbit@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Aleta Hanna)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Marauding two-year-old
Date: 6 Jan 1993 08:43:04 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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*************************
I need practical suggestions on how to keep a two year old in his bed at
night.  Until recently he would go to bed and sleep through the night
with no problems.  Then he decided that climbing out of his crib and
getting into his brothers bed was fun.  So for Christmas, we got the
boys bunkbeds and set them up in their room - unbunked, of course, older
brother is only four.  They were absolutely delighted.  It has been
getting progressively worse each night since we assembled the beds.
Tristan won't even sit on his bed for stories, any more.  He just slides
to the end of the bed and runs off cackling; sqeals with glee if we give
chase.  If we scold him, he chuckles and acts coy.  And after he finally
goes to sleep, he wakes up and starts walking around the house.  This is
the same baby that when he started sleeping through the night at 3
months, didn't wake up at night again until he was 14 months and started
having nightmares, which were few and far between.

AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!

I am pleeding for insight and advise.  Please e-mail if possible.  I do
try to read this group, but we're a wordy bunch and sometimes is takes
awhile to get through a days postings.

Aleta

Aleta Hanna
Maps and Records
Stanford University
rabbit@lindy.stanford.edu
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From: bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Basil Hamdan)
Subject: Re: Predict your next child`s sex
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 16:33:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: bh437292@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University

In article <10992@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, dabay@morse.cns.vt.edu (Marian Dabay) writes:
|> [sex-prediction chart deleted]
|> Works for me.  I was 27, and my son was conceived in February.
|> Pretty neat chart, if it's accurate.

Yes, but.... did you chinese reckon your age   ;-)

I reckon we will never know for sure what this chart is about.

a chinese 33 yr old,  (31 by more common standards)

Basil
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