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From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
Subject: Re: YAR'S DEATH SCENE
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:44:13 GMT

In article <168C0B110.GGPERRY@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU>, GGPERRY@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (ggreg) writes:
> well, the whole problem with this is that they killed her off in the first
> 10-15 minutes of the show, didn't they?  i mean, you're killing off a major
> character her, it's her last show, so let her at least be the focus of the
> episode, and wait till the end to knock her off!  and let her go out in a
> heroic way!  you know, something like saving someone's life, sacrificing
> herself to save the ship, etc., etc.

I honestly think that people expect too much of Star Trek. Think about it:
dozens of hours of television time, and continuity problems and a constantly
changing crew of writers and editors. Really, Star Trek is entertainment,
and so is (hahahaha) the death of Tasha Yar. That whole first season 
was really bad, and that was the only relly enjoyable episode. Even now,
they haven't gotten as bad as the first season, and I actually enjoyed seeing
Picard and Guinan as kids. I may flame Trekkies now and then, but I am telling
you now, get a life. Star Trek (all generations) is great entertainment.

> i mean, how fucking lame are these
> writers anyway?

watch your language, bantha fodder!

> admittedly the things i mentioned above are nothing new,
> but at least they let the character go out with a bang, and hopefully make
> for a memorable last episode.

Does it matter. I never liked Yar anyways, and Worf and Data are FAR better
characters (where WAS Worf in the 5th season?).

>                                      star trek sucks,
>                                                      ggreg

so do you Greg
  
-- 

John P. LaRocque
skywalker@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario


"Urk..urk..."
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa", Darth Vader
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From: nedwie@rs6422.ecs.rpi.edu (Erik Jason Nedwidek)
Subject: Re: B5: Some Babylon 5 discussion on the net?
Reply-To: nedwie@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:25:09 GMT

	I would like to see both DS9 and B5 make it, but I really prefer B5.
Of course thats mainly because I would love to work for Foundation Imaging (the
company doing the computer animation for the series).

-- Erik
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Buck Rogers Space Vampire
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:59:32 GMT


	All I want to say is that the episode of Buck Rogers
with the Space Vampire (Vorvon) was pretty scary to a six year
old!
						-Quinn
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From: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Subject: Alt.ql.creative 
Originator: mcbride@ll.mit.edu (Barbara McBride)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 23:34:00 GMT


Howdy all!  Last week I offered to send along the stories being posted to 
alt.ql.creative.  I have received numerous requests from people unable to
access this group.  If you want to be included in my mailing list, let me
know.  These are the people I have :
                ied1@midway.uchicago.edu 
                tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
                HEYER@stsci.edu f
                inifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu 
                ctk@well.sf.ca.us 
                rck1@midway.uchicago.edu 
                cyk2@midway.uchicago.edu

If I left anyone off, I apologize.

At the end of each week I will mail the new articles.  

These are the stories that have been posted so far :
	A Leap for Bingo by marsh (MRM122@psuvm.psu.edu)
		part 1

	The Three Doctors by Beth Hlabse 
		parts 1-3

	The Gauntlet by Jason M Ferguson
		prologue

	It's Dangerous to Leap in the Dark by Jean Yves Desbiens
		part 1

	A Leap for Louise by Jason M Ferguson
		part 1

	Quantum Leap - Star Trek:TNG Crossover Parody by Elliott C. Buchholz

	Quantum Leap - Three's Company Crossover Parody by Elliott C. Buchholz

I am assuming that the people on already on my list have all these, if you
do not, let me know which you are missing.  

I also have Star Trek: A Leap of Faith by Jason Breti- available on request.
If anyone has the 2 LeapTreks, I accidentally deleted them and would like
to get new copies.

	Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and for my fellow students,
		good luck on finals!

		Babs
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Subject: Re: YAR'S DEATH SCENE
From: traal@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Brian Phillips)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 10:50:37 EST
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

In <168C0B110.GGPERRY@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU> GGPERRY@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (ggreg) writes:

>well, the whole problem with this is that they killed her off in the first
>10-15 minutes of the show, didn't they?  i mean, you're killing off a major
>character her, it's her last show, so let her at least be the focus of the
>episode, and wait till the end to knock her off!  and let her go out in a
>heroic way!  you know, something like saving someone's life, sacrificing
>herself to save the ship, etc., etc.  i mean, how fucking lame are these
>writers anyway?  admittedly the things i mentioned above are nothing new,
>but at least they let the character go out with a bang, and hopefully make
>for a memorable last episode.

Have you seen "Yesterday's Enterprise"?  In that episode, they pointed out
that Tasha had died a 'meaningless' death.  Piccard rectified the situation,
and her death had meaning.  A VERY good episode, IMHO.  Watch it, or watch
it again, if you missed the whole point of the show the first time.

  --Traal the BRAVE 
--
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From: dtgordon@unix1.tcd.ie (Jean-Luc Picard)
Subject: B5 Grid Epislon Log ????
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:00:37 GMT

I seem to remember a very long posting about B5 a few months
ago, detailing the background story of B5 and the main
characters in the show, I was just wondering if anyone had a
copy of this posting around ( and also, is the B5 Grid Epislon
log ??), could they please, please e-mail it to me at the above
address ......
--
* When he shall die, take him and cut him into little stars, and he will  *
* make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with *
* night, and pay no worship to the garish sun.  ** Romeo & Juliet **      *
* Gene Roddenberry (1921-1991)                                            *




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From: sharrington@mpgs.enet.dec.com (Shawn Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Jan Smithers was Re: TV Crushes
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:12:47 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <BzD7Jq.K7w@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes...
>sharrington@mpgs.enet.dec.com (Shawn Harrington) writes:
> 
> 
> 
>>		And she's Mrs. James Brolin now, by the way.
> 
>Does that mean she's Josh (young Riders, Goonies) Brolin's mom?

		Don't THINK so, but can't say for 100% certain.




--- Shawn Harrington, DEC, Shrewsbury, MA


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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG (critiques) vs Dr. Who
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:26:28 GMT

In <6JJVB1A3@cc.swarthmore.edu> jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand) writes:
>	As for coherent plots, I'll grant you that the end of "Greatest
>Show" seems rather incoherent. However the other three that were mentioned
>all have the similar feature that everything is there in the story, but it
>is not presented in a clear, straightforward approach of: The Doctor
>arrives, something strange is going on, the Doctor figures it out and
>explains it to everyone. Instead you have to do some reading between the
>lines in order to figure out exactly what is going on. I find this a very
>refreshing change. I can understand why some people may not like the style
>(matter of preference) but the plots are not contradictory and they are
>complete if you look hard enough. To me that means they're coherent.

I would disagree that "Curse Of Fenric" or "Ghost Light" were coherent.

On the other hand, I thought "Greatest Show" and "Happiness Patrol" were
coherent, but just plain stupid.

"Silver Nemesis" and "Remembrance Of The Daleks" were both self-indulgent
fluff, though fun on that level.  Having seen them each two or three times, I
think I can probably successfully complete the next five or so years of my
life without seeing them again.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
( Coming soon to a Massachusetts near you! )

"...I trusted [Ganelon] like a brother.  That is to say, not at all."
				- Roger Zelazny, _The_Guns_Of_Avalon_
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From: joshm@crash.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Subject: Re: Buck Rogers Space Vampire
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:20:36 GMT

In <1992Dec18.084042.7917@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Joerg.Plate@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Plate) writes:

>qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:

>>	I don't remember the episode where the Searcher's crew
>>were turning to slime.  Can you fill me in?
>It's been a long time ago... but I think it wasn't really slime.
>Something yellow, steaming, looking like rocks.
>"The Hand of the Goral", I presume...  (2nd Season)
[Lots of ramblings about Buck's "Hot Babes" deleted]


>The only interesting woman (I *really* don't like the expression "hot babe")
>was Wilma (a.k.a Erin Gray ). And Ardala is weird...

Of course she's weird.  How else would you describe a woman who
considers middle-aged, overweight Gil Gerard the ideal mate?

My favorite part of Space Vampire: Wilma, turned into a pseudo-Vorvon,
slinking around and huskily moaning: "I drained them! It felt soooo good!"

My second favorite part: The Vorvon screaming when he's touched by
Commander Adama's medallion.

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From: martin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (Martin Smith)
Subject: Re: Immortals Starting Antique Shop Franchises
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:35:25 GMT

> 
> Duncan learns how to duel in fancy ways with a katana, going
> so far as to use the very same katana from Highlander I & II.
> 
This should be same type of blade not the same blade.

Martin
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From: ied1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ingrid de Beus)
Subject: Re: QL:alt.ql.creative archive?
Reply-To: ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:49:45 GMT

In article <42314@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
>In article <1g6i7gINN988@menudo.uh.edu>,
>HADCUJEK@admin.uh.edu (Julia E. Kosatka) writes:
>>I know this is a little early (our site doesn't get alt.ql.creative - yet -
>>but I don't want to miss anything :-)), does anyone have any plans to archive 
>>the stories on an ftp site?
>
>I second this.  We also don't get a.ql.c here, and I'd like to see
>what I'm missing out on.
>
>Tony

I third it.  Especially with the holidays.. vacationing news admins 
can put off getting new newsgroups in lots of places.  Not that I'm
flaming news admins! They're wonderful people, all of 'em.  8^) 

ingrid-


-- 
	Ingrid Elvire Maria de Beus a.k.a. ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
	My old .sig was quite pessimistic, so here's an improvement:
	 a Blake's 7 quote that works as a Quantum Leap reference!
      "We've come at the worst possible time -- of course."  (Kerr Avon)
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From: ps70awg@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (mel rupinski)
Subject: Re: QL:  Promised Land (Spoiler-free trivia)
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-11320]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:25:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.171616.4627@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> swardwel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Stephanie  Wardwell) writes:
>
>LOVED THIS EPISODE!!!  (Of course, at this point, any new episodes are a
>good thing.  I hate exam time!

Me too (both points!!!!!)

>Trivia point #1: 
[deleted for brevity's sake]

>Trivia point #2:  I'm glad someone else noticed the Olds commercial, too! 
>Normally I change the channel right after the "Oh,boy!", but I had my
>hands full of cat and laundry so I stuck around.  It went something like
>"If you like leaping around, you are probably here this time every week. 
>But with the Olds blah blah V6 blah blah 8% APR blah blah rebate blah
>blah.  So stop leaping around and stop in at your local Olds dealer
>today."  I was so surprised I just sat and stared at the tube.  Did I
>really hear that?  Yes, I do believe I did.  Well, that was very strange,
>I must say.

I'm glad others have seen this ting too!  Tuesday was one of the few
nights I had decided to actually cook something for myself.  So I had 
stuff simmering and whatnot while the show was on.  However, to attest
to my culinary skills, something exploded right at the end (I missed the     
last part of the leap-in, but it didn't matter since it was for the Leap
Back).  While I was frantically attempting damage control, I heard the
commercial.  Well, it didn't hit me until I heard the "stop leaping
around" bit.  Actually, my first thought was: "great, I've sprained my 
brain from finals, blew up my kitchen, and now I'm hallucinating. . .
I need a beer!"  I just wnt to thank everyone for giving me faith in
my sanity. . .
>
>Anyway, I'm off for the holidays, leaping between New York and South
>Central Penna.

For me its New Orleans to Baltimore [by car 8^( ]

>Blessed Yule, Happy Hannukah, Merry Christmas, and if the
>Muslims or Hindi or anyone else celebrates anything else at this time of
>year, have a good one of those, too!

I'd like to second that!!

>
>Steph
>
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mtr
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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Galactica 1980 Question
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:38:17 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Now what have I done?

	--MikE...and why have I got this funny feeling that I should check
		my mail regularly, lest it get too big?

-- 
Mike Escutia	   |	"Holy Bat Caves, Boy Wonder!" 
a.k.a. Pliable Lad |				--Speedball, 
of the LNH	   |MikE@unh.edu |||  		  _New Warriors_ #31 
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From: sharrington@mpgs.enet.dec.com (Shawn Harrington)
Subject: Re: Jan Smithers was Re: TV Crushes
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:22:57 GMT


In article <19757@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com>, mcfar@dialup.UUCP (Lincoln McFarland) writes...
>>
>>>>Jan Smithers (Bailey Quarters on WKRP)
>>
>>Ah, ha!  I thought I was the only one who preferred a classy brunette to 
>>a cheap flashy blonde (Jennifer?  the character played by Loni Anderson).  
>>
>>Um, well, make that an expensive flashy blonde.  
> 
>Me three.  Does anybody know what happened to her?  Anyone have her 
>phone number/e-mail address ;-)
> 
>| Randy McFarland                         mcfar@sunfse.ese.lmse.lockheed.com |


		Me four.

		And she's Mrs. James Brolin now, by the way.



--- Shawn Harrington, DEC, Shrewsbury, MA


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From: jonesek@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Erik Reid Jones)
Subject: Re: Quarc
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:32:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.030509.11333@netcom.com> rory@netcom.com (Rory Hinnen) writes:
>I remember Quark! Thank god! I kept telling people about it, and they'd give
>me the wierdest looks....
>
>There was also a first mate named Ficus, who was a take-off on Spock. And there
>was some sort of creature that lived in the captain's cabin, and constantly
>threatened to eat him.
>
>You have brought great peace of mind to me. Now if I can just find some tapes
>of it...(hint, hint)...
>
>.rory.
>rory@binky.jpl.nasa.gov
>
Yes!  This had to have been one of the most awful shows ever
created, but goodness was it funny!  I think it only ran
seven episodes.  They were all garbage collectors, whose 
mission was to pick up bags of interstellar garbage floating
through space.  The most vivid memory I have of it is the
food tubes - those things that they put their mouths over to
have this brick of inedible junk come flying at their
mouths at about 300 KM/hr.  The only plot I can remember is
one where the captain of the vessel contracted some sort of
virus that was aging him rapidly; sort of like "Black Adder"
meets Star Trek's "The Deadly Years."  Now considering I was
no more than six a the *most* when this show was on, I'm
just proud I can remember these little, incoherent details...
Anyone else remember it?

Erik Jones


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From: koblas@netcom.com (David Koblas)
Subject: Star Cops quote 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:25:53 GMT

In star cops there is this reoccuring quote:

	Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left no mater how 
	improbable is the truth.

Is this exactly what the quote is, or have I mis remembered it?


-- 
name       : David Koblas                 domain: koblas@netcom.com
affiliation: Extra Mile Consulting	   phone: +47 (83) 38663
quote: "Time has little to do with infinity and jelly donuts."
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ST:TNG (critiques) vs Dr. Who
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:27:59 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

[Followups to rec.arts.drwho]

In <1992Dec15.010926.20094@netcom.com> mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>Fascinating.  I've never seen this Dr. Who.  The Dr. Who I'm familiar
>with, obviously a pale imitation, had Daleks which had no manipulation
>capacity beyond an appendage that looked like a bathroom plunger, and
>no capacity to travel over any surface not flat and reasonably level.

In "Remembrance Of The Daleks" they can "fly" up stairs and such.  It looks
pretty silly, though. :-)

>(No flames, please.  There was a lot of good stuff in Dr. Who.  I
>always had trouble suspending my disbelief in the Daleks, though.)

Jon Pertwee agreed with you.  (Which is why I always found it ironic that his
series had two or three Daleks stories and NO Cybermen stories.)

-- 
Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
( Coming soon to a Massachusetts near you! )

"...I trusted [Ganelon] like a brother.  That is to say, not at all."
				- Roger Zelazny, _The_Guns_Of_Avalon_
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!rfletcher@cactus.org (Robert Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Quarc
Date: 19 Dec 1992 22:17:45 -0600
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
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  Yes the spelling is wrong and yes the program was made and aired.
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