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From: bobc@natinst.com (Bob Conyne)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: Re: Aircraft and Adventure Factory Upload
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:41:58 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

In article <1993Jan28.165900.8301@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas) writes:
>If you have the Aircraft and Adventure Factory, then you might be interested
>in the following.  [ more about an A & AF enhancement ]
>-- 
>John Mechalas                                          

I'd like to take this bandwidth to 1) thank everybody who's been posting
their A & AF planes to the various archives (they're great!) and 2) make
the following suggestion for a new aircraft: how about a hang glider?

Talk about easy -- take your basic Rogallo airfoil shape (I know this can't
be too tough since people have done exotic multi-engine turboprops and the 
like) and, using the sailplane characteristics in A & SD, create a glider
with a glide ratio of around 10:1 (instead of 40:1 or whatever is used for
the default sailplane).  Just about every hang glider I've ever seen has
the same color scheme -- basically alternating strips of colored material.
I believe there's a way to remove the control panel completely from the
cockpit view in FS4, though I don't remember how off the top of my head.
Anyway, in case somebody needs a project ...  of course, I suppose I could
always just break down and buy A & AF myself! 
--Bob
From: kosters@dogwood.gvsu.edu (David Kosters)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: FS5 Rumors
Keywords: FS5, Microsoft
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:57:56 GMT
Organization: Grand Valley State University


Greetings fellow flight simulator diehards!

A question:  Has anyone heard any rumors regarding the release of 
     Flight Simulator 5.0???  I seem to recall someone mentioning
     secret beta testing a few months ago, but the thread seems to
     have died.  Any information will be greatly appreciated.

--
Dave Kosters 
kosters@beech.gvsu.edu
Current simulator--future pilot
From: kuban@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: exit
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:05:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.15650.2b63c988
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase used simulator software
and/or hardware?  I would think that some of this stuff should be available
somewhere because the owners are upgrading or just in need of money. Thanks
in advance for any info.
                                              Barry
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Subject: Re: VOR tracking with FS4
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 00:40:51 GMT

In article <16620@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett) writes:
>Does anyone else have a problem with the autopilot function in 
>FS4 tracking a VOR?  In my system (486/33 8-MB RAM) the autopilot
>tracks about 40 degrees to the left of any radial I set it for...
>
>and it never manages to actually track to the station.  I can tolerate
>this in real airplanes, (the airplane I fly doesn't track to Loran directly),
>but in FS4 it's really irritating.  Any suggestions????

Just one suggesstion:  Wait for FS5   :) :)

Seriously, though, this is a bug in FS4, and I haven't seen the
VOR track work properly for anybody...

-- 
John Mechalas                                          "I'm not an actor, but
mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
Aero Engineering, Purdue University                     #include disclaimer.h
From: gps19@herald.usask.ca (Gregory P. Siemens)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: NACA airfoil data request
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:32:53 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: herald.usask.ca
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[ Article crossposted from sci.aeronautics ]
[ Author was Gregory P. Siemens ]
[ Posted on 15 Jan 1993 17:21:28 GMT ]



C
Does anyone out there have the raw data for NACA airfoils
(or any others).  Data I need is Lift and Drag co-efficients for any
angle of attack.  I have a book with several NACA airfoils in it
(Abbott) but it contains only the graphs of this data and not the data
itself.  I need the data in a form that could be typed into a data file
or read into a program as a data file.  I would very much appreciate
this data as we are trying to compile a database of Cd/Cl vs. Angle of
attack for a large number of airfoils(not just NACA).  If you know of
someone who has this data or a way of getting it please mail me with the
info.

			Thanks in advance. 
Xref: sparky rec.aviation.simulators:1043 comp.sys.hp:15240
From: cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo)
Subject: MicroProse Information (was Re: Mac version of Microprose B-17?)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:08:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.100603.3274@peanut> jeffm@bvc.edu writes:
>Does anyone make a Mac compatable version of this simulator? The B-17 
>Microprose thing?
>
>Jeffm@bvc.edu

Jeff did you ask me this already or was it someone else?
Either way, I dont know the answer, but you could try a local
PC game store, or calling microprose directly at the following number:
(410)771-1151

Of course there is the *llooooonnngggg* way of doing things:

MicroProse Software 
180 Lakefront Dr. 
Hunt Valley, MD 21030

Or you can Get Hi-Tech!!!

you can dialup to them with settings of 8,N,1
at speeds of 9600:
(410)785-1841

and you can reach them at the following as well:

  America OnLine: Industry Connection,Keyword:"MicroProse",Address: microProse

  Compuserve: (this is your best bet, you can reach them on the internet)
	     Game Publishers Forum, "Go GAMPUB", Address 76004,2223
  Internet: (via Compuserv: 76004.2223@compuserve.com)

  Prodigy: Computer Club: Other Games, keyword:"Microprose",Address:XHFK15D

  MCIMAIL: Address: MicroProse

  GEnie: Scorpia RT, Keyword:"Scorpia", Address: MicroProse

  Delphi: GameSig, Address: MicroProse

  PC-Link: Computer Forum, Keyword:"MicroProse", Address: MicroProse

  Q-Link: Computer Forum, MicroProse Section, Address: MPSLabs

  Promenade: Industry Connection, Keyword:"MicroProse",Address: MicroProse


Well, I hope that helps a bit.  Good luck!


Derek

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From: dtk@cook.cs.unh.edu (David T Kao)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
Subject: *** Megafortress ***
Date: 27 Jan 1993 01:22:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cook.cs.unh.edu

I posted the following message in rec.games.misc a few days ago, but
no one ever responded. So here it goes....

What should I do after I escape from the Dreamland in the "Flight of the
Old Dog"? It seems that I need to read the book by Dale Brown in order
to proceed further from Seattle. I was intercepted and asked to read
page 240 (of the Dale Brown's book).

I did go out and bought the book. However, it did not help at all. Can
somebody tell me what to do from Seattle? Thanks in advance.


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From: Andrew_Tuline@mindlink.bc.ca (Andrew Tuline)
Subject: Re: Amiga
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:20:30 GMT

> Robert Augugliaro writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <sexpig.0ga4@vsbbs.UUCP>
> Posted: 18 Jan 93 17:28:35 PST
>
> Org.  : BBS
>
>    I have an Amiga and it is perfect for flight simulators.  Does anyone
> else
> out here have FSII?  I wish that software companys would develope and
> release
> there software for Amigas at the same time as IBM.  For example:  FS4 is
> not
> available for the Amiga yet?  Why not, the Amiga handles graphics and sound
> better than any IBM in know of.  Why do I have to wait?  The greatest
> flight
> simulator in the world is located on a game called Armour-Geddon.  This
> game
> isn't available for IBM, because the game is too intense (graphics, sound,
> and
> multi-tasking).  So, to sum it up -- Amiga users demand more responsiveness
> from the software developers.


Amiga users may demand more responsiveness, but they're probably not going to
get it.  A software 'hit' with an Amiga is one thing, but a software 'hit'
on a PC can be very financially rewarding.

I have seen graphics, sound AND multi-tasking on the PC platform to rival or
exceed the Amiga's.  640x480 x 24 bit colour, 1024x768x256 colour on a $250
graphics adapter, the ATI VGA Wonder XL24 with 1M fill the bill quite nicely
for graphics.  Sound Blaster Pro rounds out the sound.  Multi-tasking is
another thing though.  The company I work for has long had a real-time
multi-tasking operating system for industrial control.  It's not for public
use.  These are all doable on the PC.  The last is up to the O/S providers.

I know of many former Amiga owners who sold their systems for PC's, myself
being one of them.
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.simulators
From: doing@bach.udel.edu (David Allen Doing)
Subject: wuarchive & tauon
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:38:00 GMT

	A simple but easily misinterpreted problem.  When I try to open
wuarchive or tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au, my computer will say unknown hosts. 
What are the real addresses to these domains?  Is it wuarchive.edu?  That
is what I have been trying, but I cannot seem to connect.  Help!!

Please send e-mail


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From: tracy@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Tracy Scheinkman)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: update on filly with joint ill
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:57:53 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ


	Just to refresh your memories, a friend and I purchased a sick
filly two weeks ago.  She is about 9 months old and has been having
trouble with swollen joints, fever, and soreness since she was 3 months
old.  
	We have had her for two weeks and put her on a strict bermuda
grass diet when we got her.  Since then her temperature has dropped down
to almost normal, the swelling has gone down, and she is much less sore.
Also she has put on weight and is filling out (which many people think
a horse can't do on bermuda grass hay) and looks very happy.  She has 
really been enjoying the attention she has been getting and had a blast 
getting her first bath yesterday.  She really loved being scrubbed
and brushed and combed.
	We believe her problems stem from epiphysitis complicated by an
allergy to alfalfa hay or the mold that tends to grow on alfalfa hay.  If
we can comfirm our suspicions then we will put her on a mineral supplement
for epiphysitis.

					Tracy and everybody
From: ct697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sharon Carnes)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: western saddles
Date: 24 Jan 1993 16:32:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hello,
I am looking for info on a good all around western saddles.  I owned a
horse when I was a kid and now I am interested in half leasing a horse
and would like to have my own saddle.  I want a used saddle and would
like comments on the various brands.  I've seen Colorado, Circle Y and
Billy Cooks.  What do I look for?  I'm interested in trail riding and
reining and probably will be riding a quarter horse. 20 years ago I just
got on and rode but now I'm interested in the finer aspects! Thanks for
your help!!
Sharon Carnes
From: jsnyder@cadev5.intel.com (Jan Snyder )
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Britain in April (tourist alert!)
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:03:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: inews.C1H3IA.Exz
Organization: Intel Santa Clara Design Technology


Unless something goes horribly wrong, I'll be winging over to Britain for
a visit approximately April 1-12.  I'd love to meet some of you British
net.folk if we can arrange it!  And, I'd appreciate any pointers to 
things equestrian to do/see at that time of year.

I'll be using Cambridge as a base because I have friends there.  They 
are somewhat "horsey" (have been taking lessons off and on for the last
year or so) but not seriously into it.  They can show me the local stables
and tell me where they went pony-trekking in Wales last year, but I don't
expect real expert guidance.  My friends are leaving for a convention on
Jersey on 4/8, so I'll probably rent a car after that and venture out on
my own.  Don't know if I can make it up to Scotland, but may manage to
pop over into Wales.  Much will depend on the weather and my courage at
driving the "wrong side of the road"!

My Frommer's travel guide says the Grand National is run in April, but
does NOT say what date!  Does anyone know?  I'd practically kill to see
that race, but I can't shift my travel dates much due to school schedule.

Since this is not my first trip to Britain, I don't feel I have to see/do
everything in 12 days.  (Okay, I'm fibbing, but one must be Practical. :-) )

Please email me if you'd like to meet, or if you have any advice/ideas.

Thanks!

-Sallijan
 (who hates to leave her horses, but would hate more to miss this trip)

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Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: mlr21@cas.org (Mary Lee Raines)
Subject: Re: comment on low head carriage and bad equitation now popular
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:40:34 GMT

In article <1jkjd9INN7gk@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullys Maze) writes:
|> Since we have rainy weather I have loaded up on all the free horse
|> magazines and newspapers.  Maybe someone can explain something.  All
|> the big full page ads for Stallions and trained Quarter horses
|> typically have a photo of the horse in the show ring.  Horse has his
|> head down to the bottom of his chest, rider is sitting very
|> slouched, with his legs and feet well forward of his seat.  This
|> loks like very poor equitation to me (this is western), and I
|> thought AQHA was getting away from low head carriages.  There is
|> often another photo of the same horse being ridden hunt seat, again
|> with the same really low head carriage (now this looks REALLY
|> stupid-the horse doesn't look like he is on the bit at all), and
|> again, the rider has very rounded shoulders.
|> What gives?
|> 
|> Karen

I hope that maybe all the free horse magazines and newspapers you've
stocked up on are at least a couple years old.  :^)

Otherwise, it's still a case of the breed registries having made the
rule changes, but the folks that are out there getting their pictures
taken haven't bothered to read about the changes (or haven't bothered
to learn how to do it correctly).

Or, maybe, well, we can hope this might be the case--the class is over
and the horse and rider are just relaxing ???  (No such luck?)

Mary Lee
Ravenswood Apps
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: mary@cairo.watson.ibm.com (Mary McHugh)
Subject: Re: which magazines?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:25:25 GMT
Reply-To: mchugh@watson.ibm.com (Mary McHugh)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Home for Tired Hackers
Keywords: good horse magazine

I vote for Practical Horseman & The Chronicle of the Horse.  Sonja has
already posted excellent descriptions of both. 

 However, I DO enjoy the Chronicle especially since I compete fairly
regularly and they have placings for most major shows and a lot of
smaller shows.  It is a wonderful way to keep up with my competition.  I
also enjoy reading about the other disciplines covered in the Chronicle.
But Cooky McClung *IS THE BEST*.  She writes wonderfully witty articles
about being a mom, horsewoman, daughter, horsewoman, wife, horsewoman, etc.

Mary McHugh
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: cosborn@dante.nmsu.edu (Cecelia Osborn)
Subject: WOW another Bio!!
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:57:22 GMT

Ok heres mine:  Hello my name is Cece Osborn. I am 32 and live in Las
Cruces, NM and work for the Physical Science Lab at NMSU.  I receive
this newsgroup through usenet.

I have been riding over 20 years and a horse owner for 14.  I have had
lots of horses, good, bad, big, small registered and grade. I have 
saddled the best and attempted to ride the rest, so to speak. High point
of my horse involvement was High Point Yearling Halter Mare in 1989. I
have shown on and off for 10 years.

I ride mostly western and am interested mainly in reining and cutting. I
have taken two semesters of english eq on campus here with a great instructor
Chris Halacker, but do not think that I will pursue english much.

I fractured my pelvis in a bucking match, that I lost, with a spoiled mare
3 1/2 years ago and it left me pretty fearful.  It is amazing what a fear of
not "walking away" the next time and do to you.

Presently I have 2 horses. One is Bearly Designed, a yearling red roan overo
gelding APHA registered. He is 95% white with blue eyes. He placed 5th at
the NM Breeders Futurity last fall.  This year I am going to attempt the
local halter shows and at least one breed halter class with him.  (He 
doesn't know this yet).  I bred his mom and have owned him since birth.
My other horse is a quarter horse that wanted to be a paint. He is a 9yr old
15 hand chestnut with high white stockings and a big blaze. He is a APHA
registered gelding named Mr. Incognito Q (Mickey). He is a pretty lazy boy
with only 3 consistent months of riding in his life. He had never loped with
a rider until he was 6 years old. He was mostly used for the occasional 
trail ride and suffers from a bad case of kiditis, doing what he wants when
he wants, (a kid had him). My friends tell me that he would make a nice 
hunter, but for now we have enough problems just getting our cues right
without trying for a specific event. I would like to show him in western
events, but maybe we will try showmanship at halter first.

Most days I wish I did not have the horses, especially when its rainy or
I am feeling poor. But I guess that is how it goes, at this point in time.

I am married to a non horse husband who does not support my habit. He has
2 cats and a motorcycle. I have 2 Austrailian Shepherds, Ian blue merle
5 yrs, and Brie red merle 4 years.  Ian is my riding buddy and chief "turn
out" the horses dog.  I board my horses.  I did the usual kid horse 
activities that others have mentioned Breyers, books and riding lessons,
(Western).

This is a fantastic idea and a great way to find out about our posters.
I post some, but read everything.  The group has given me alot of new
ideas and new methods to work out problems.  Its great!!


D
activities that others have mentioned, Breyers, Books ans riding lessons
From: tracy@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Tracy Scheinkman)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: re: rabies vaccinations (was: raccoons and dogs : -( )
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:37:33 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ


	In the western United States rabies has long been a seasonal 
problem that horse owners have had to deal with.  My veterinarian
recommends vaccinating for rabies and about half of all the horses
she has as patients are vaccinated for rabies by their owners.
I have my horses vaccinated for rabies every year, I recommend it.
It is a small price to pay for reassurance.  In this area rabies is
a seasonal disease, it shows up in the summer when the heat and
dryness drive animals out of their normal ranges to search for water.

				Tracy and everybody
From: kampx001@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Questions about FITS
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:08:23 GMT

  A co-worker gave me a FITS Equestrian brochure and their trips
sound interesting but... I've never heard of them and was wondering
if any of you have ever gone on one of their vacations.  I don't know
if this is a frequent question but you needn't waste band width, please
just e-mail your comments.  We'd like to know about the horses, the
equipment, accomodations, etc.  and also, how do they handle medical
emergencies (i.e. you fall off a horse in Morocco and break your leg).
Thanks for the help.
From: jonathan@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: re: More truck questions
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:12:01 GMT


lovejoy@helicon.math.purdue.edu (Victor W. Lovejoy) writes:
 
>I am interested in a truck that can be used for dual purposes; driving to 
>work and school, and then using to haul hay or sacks of grain from the 
>feed store to the farm. I would also use it for hauling brush, branches,
>etc. I was told by my brother-in-law that I would need a cargo package and
>an extra cooling system on the truck in order to haul hay. I don't plan
>to be pulling a trailer of any kind with it. 

>It would be nice to have a smart-looking truck that isn't a semi-in-disguise.
>I figured that a 1/2 ton pickup would haul 1/2 ton of hay on the back, no 
>prob. People are telling me otherwise. Any comments?

Sounds like a bunch of damn sissy talk to me.  IMnot-soHO, you can either
be smart or have a truck that looks smart, not both.  We drive a '75 Ford
4WD 1/2 ton pickup with a 400cid.  It pulls a trailer loaded with two
boneheads, will carry 30 bales of hay at a conservative 75lbs. per (that's
at least 3/4 ton), and we don't have to worry about scratching the wussy
paint job when we throw old fencing and brush into it.  Four-wheel drive is
MANDATORY for a serious hauler.  Don't get five years in debt over some
flashy, underpowered yup-truck.  Get a good used work vehicle.


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From: Stovall@f88.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Stovall)
Sender: Jpunix@urchin.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Who are we?  What are we
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:22:00 -0500

BT>2.Do you post messages?
BT>2a.If so, approximately how often?

When I have something to contribute.

BT>6.Do you work in the horse industry? if so as what?

Show, performance and veterinary farriery.

Peace in our time,

Tom Stovall
AFA Journeyman Farrier
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From: deblev@nimoy.ipac.caltech.edu (Debbie Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Psyllium
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:14:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: nimoy.ipac.caltech.edu

The advice the vet I use came up with, for horses living on
sand, was 2 cups/day for the first 10 days and then 1c/week
for maintainence, with no need to "rest" the system.  Seems
there is still some disagreement about regime!  He also said
it wasn't too important for the horses in stalls, but the
maintainence dose surely wouldn't hurt.  I'm going to pick some
up and start Split and Mo on it.

Debbie (& Split and Mo)