HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: J.Newman@icarus.curtin.edu.au (John Newman)
Subject: Re: Superglue origin an UL?
Organization: Computing Centre, Curtin University, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:26:46 GMT

>Subject: Re: Superglue origin an UL?
>In article <1992Sep28 crosby@caesar.cs.colorado.
edu (CROSBY MATTHEW JAME) writes:>
>Ok, guys, heres another one.
>>
>>I have heard from *several people* that Cyanoacrylate (superglue) was originally
>>invented by mountain climbers as a quick fix for wounds/cuts/gouges/etc.  Is
>>this true?  It sounds very ULish....

Well it certainly works for teeth.

My brother cracked off a piece of a tooth just hours before leaving
for an extended overseas trip. He used superglue to put the piece 
back. It held for weeks until he returned home.

His dentist said that it could have stayed in place for a
superlong time, after he had prepared the tooth for a supercostly
gold crown.


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From: markc@itd.adelaide.edu.au (Mark Collis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: today's conspiracy t
Date: 25 Sep 92 01:49:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Robert Cox (Robert.Cox@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org) wrote:
: 
:  CO> ObUL:  If you forget your PIN number, and try too many times, the
:  CO> machine will take your card.
: 
:  CO> ObFact:  It will give your card back, but you won't be able to use
:  CO> it in any ATMs until you contact your bank and tell them what
:  CO> happened.
: 
:         In Wisconsin (where ATMs are on the TYME system), three
: incorrect PIN entries in one session will result in the card being
: "retained" (their term, not mine).  The card will be mailed back to the
: owner via US mail.
: 
: ... Line noise provided by Wisconsin Bell.
: ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
: 
:  * Origin: NineJackNine (1:121/99)

In Australia, if you get two or three (it varies with each bank) incorrect
pin entries, the card is swallowed and kept.  You then have to go to the
bank and collect your card.

Regards

Mar
From: keith@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Keith Edwards)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Flavored Condoms
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:53:14 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research, Edinburgh University


|> Where does the word posh come from?

I think posh is an acronym from Port Out Starboard Home
which is the way the most expensive tickets on cruises or
voyages by ship were sold. I think the idea was that you 
got a cabin in the shade on the way out and on the way back.
It could have originated as long ago as the 18th century.

keith
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Presidential UL's
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 12:14:38 NZDST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:

> In article <1992Sep25.235332.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit
> >In article <1992Sep25.225805.12783@news.columbia.edu>, egl1@cunixf.cc.columb
> >
> >ObPresUL #2: Churchill wanted to become U.S. President after retiring from
> >the British Prime Ministership for good, and actually ran the U.S. Govern-
> >ment for a time in the late 1950s when Eisenhower fell ill.
> >
> >ObPresUL #3: Disraeli was his VP.
Unfortunately the US constitution provides that only those BORN a US 
citizen can be President of the US. Which seems a little discriminatory 
in the great melting pot. It also makes it more difficult to rule the 
world. Sight. Plan 2 is to wait for the new world order with the one 
world government....they won't let any of the important countries be 
World President because they would never agree, so they'll settle on a 
small tinpot out of the way place (New Zealand), with me as then Prime 
Minister (or President when the revolution comes...)

Cheers,

Wayne McDougall
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From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Presidential UL's
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:35:29 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Followup-To: misc.legal
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

In article <Sep.24.15.54.33.1992.23162@math.rutgers.edu>, 
cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:
> The Speaker succeeds to the presidency if both the President and Vice
> President are rendered incapable of filling the office.  That doesn't
> mean that he takes over just because the VP is on a plane rather than
> in the White House.  
> 
> This does bring up an interesting question, though.  In case of
> nuclear attack or something that wipes out a large number of high
> officials, what is the line of succession? 

The order is:

Vice-President
Speaker of the House
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of the Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General
Secretary of the Interior
Secretary of Agriculture
Secretary of Commerce
Secretary of Labor
Secretary of Health and Human Services
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Energy
Secretary of Education
Secretary of Veterans Affairs

Source: 3 USC 19.  (followups to misc.legal)

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: 666 Cable TV
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:24:41 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Distribution: alt
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep25.135427.5512@sei.cmu.edu>, kh@sei.cmu.edu (Kurt Haverstock) writes:
>It occurs to me that we might as soon debate on the number of faeries
>that can dance on the head of a pin.

I think it's "ten".

>:D

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
How about we all do something reasonable?  I bet that'll confuse 'em!
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Radar Cars (was: stupid cop tricks & t)
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:32:01 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>Speaking of which, is the average speed on the Maryland Turnpike still
>about 90MPH?  (I haven't been there in some time now)
>
>You think I'm kidding, don't you?  I'm not.  When I drove it back in '88,
>I swear the average was 90 - that is, most of the traffic was going
>between 85 and 95.  Driving any slower than 85 resulted in being passed
>by *everyone*.

     Methinks you exagerate a bit. I commuted daily from Baltimore to
College Park along I95 in Fall of '88; about 70-75 was the average
speed in the far left lane. Although there were and are cars out there
doing 90.

     The "legal" limit is 55, but few tickets are handed out under 70.
I got ticketed just a few days ago; 70 in a 55 mph zone will cost
me $55.

     BTW, 95 between DC and Baltimore is not _nearly_ as dangerous as
the "Silly Suicide Circle", the DC Beltway. For some reason, the
closer you get to DC, the crazier the driving gets. Maybe it has
something to do with the insane layout of the streets in that city...

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From: 00rbspelman@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Re: Kirk VS Picard (was "Lost In Space" was bette
Date: 5 Oct 92 07:26:55 GMT

In article <tomcat.718257354@cwis>, tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
> sepstein@scott.skidmore.edu (stacey epstein) writes:
> 
>>thf2@quads.uchicago.edu (Citecheck Hell) writes:
>> In article <6639@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw+@pitt.edu writes:
>  >If Jean-Luc Picard got into a fight with Jim Kirk who would win?
>> 
> 
> I think that this question can be resolved....never mind.
> Really though, I don't think Picard would win.  Kirk has had a lot of
> experience on landing parties and has been in quite a few fights.
> Picard, on the other hand, has only been a on a few away missions, and
> has limited hand to hand combat experience.  I mean, come on, Kirk
> went up against a huge green lizard (Gorn) and his old buddy Finnegan.
> Picard?  An invisible monster he never had a chance to beat, and a
> terrorist.  I don't think I have ever seen Picard win a hand to hand
> combat situation.
> 
> 
> --
> |Jeffrey S. Jo                   |	         F-14D Tomcat                 |
> |Computer Operations		 |             VF-142 Ghostriders             |
> |University of Nebraska at Omaha |       United States Navy F-14 Tomcat       |
> |tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu         |              Fighter Squadron              |


	Sure, you haven't SEEN Picard in hand-to-hand very often, but there
was a hint of how crazy he was in the past, when he was recounting his 
near-death experience with Wesley while they were on a shuttlecraft.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Liz Claiborne/Oprah Winfrey UL
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 12:52:48 GMT

This from the October 5, 1992 edition of Newsweek. My apologies if its
already been posted.

"For more than a year, rumor has had it that fashion designer Liz
Claiborne insulted black women while appearing on "The Oprah Winfrey
Show." According to the tale, Claiborne said her dresses aren't made
for black women because their hips are too big. It's unclear how many
black women have been eschewing Claiborne clothing, but Spike Lee says
in this month's Esquire that all blacks should boycott the designer.
One problem: the story is untrue. Claiborne never appeared on "Oprah"
and never made such comments. Still, "Oprah" staffers receive 15 calls
a week from viewers who insist they saw Claiborne on the show."

Michael
From: cla04@keele (A.T. Fear)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: UL Society?
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:12:13 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England


The Observer in England had quite a long article on the phenomenon of
ULs this Sunday and in passing mentioned something called The
International Society for the Study of Contemporary Legends. Is there
any one out there that can tell me about this group?

Andy
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mixed up translations
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:47:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep25.190057.13519@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>The only explanation I can find is the supposition that
>Canada (because of the french influence), and the UK (because of
>Europe) make a greater attempt to find out how foreign languages
>pronounce foreign words than the great bastion of the monoculture, the
>US.  (Well - I'm sure we can find millions of counter examples, but
>that is my observation, anyway)
>
Here's one:

When I was in England, there was a big stink in the news about the Nestle's
company.  Imagine my amazement to hear newscasters pronouce it "nessles,"
as in "she nestles her young," rather than the decidedly more accurate
"ness-lee's".  



-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: J.Newman@icarus.curtin.edu.au (John Newman)
Subject: Re: Floor numbering
Keywords: Hotel floors
Organization: Computing Centre, Curtin University, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:56:16 GMT

>Subject: Re: Floor numbering variations
>Keywords: Hotel floors
>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:39:14 GMT
>In article <1992Sep24> msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) 
>writes:
>
>>From a thread in alt.folklore.computers about "floor 0" and similar
>>topics, and the way that North Americans count the ground floor as 1
>>while many other countries count the floor above as 1.
>>
>>> > In our EE building, there is a basement, subbasement, and two floors
>>> > above the ground floor, numbered 2 and 3.
>>> > 
>>> > The ground floor has a ground symbol.  
>>> 
>>> So you have no floor called '1'? Curiouser and Curiouser!


A prominent tourist hotel in Perth (built by Alan Bond for the
Americas Cup in 1983) also has a curious arrangement for floor numbering:
There are no floors 2 to 9. So it has:

  20
  |
  |
  10
  M  (Mezzanine)
  L  (Lobby)
  B  (Basement)


Presumably interstate and overseas guests think they are
being offered higher rooms (with better views).


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\ Curtin University,            than meets the eye."     /                         
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From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: the weight of the water
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:53:42 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:

>Indeed. I never saw an emergency shower with a drain at Caltech
>or at U of WI/Madison, either.

The newer chem buildings at Caltech have drains under the showers.  The old
buildings, however, have what are obviously "afterthought" emergency
showers. As in, you can see that the pipes to the showers are much
newer than any other exposed pipe in the building.  Perhaps this
accounts for the difference.

Heath

-- 
--
From the Home for Amnesiac Computer Scientists....
  heathh@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: crosby@caesar.cs.colorado.edu (CROSBY MATTHEW JAME)
Subject: Superglue origin an UL?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:38:22 GMT

Ok, guys, heres another one.

I have heard from *several people* that Cyanoacrylate (superglue) was originally
invented by mountain climbers as a quick fix for wounds/cuts/gouges/etc.  Is
this true?  It sounds very ULish....

I have met at least one mountain climber who claims to use it for this purpose.
Any comments?
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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: "Lost In Space" was better
Summary: Sheesh!
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:51:06 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


>"Gravity?  We don't need no steenking gravity!".  They captured
>the Pinafore, but lost it again when a member of the away team remembered
>the phrase "Cho li'chu!" from his cadet manual, "Useful Phrases to Remember
>When Captured by the Enemy".)

"Cho li'chu!" means "DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON" in Klingon.

Terry "Kligon! Klingoff! Klingon-Kilgoff the Klinger!" Wood

Anybody know any Star Trek Jokes?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: "Lost In Space" was CLEARLY better
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:19:42 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Oct1.005727.27318@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@quads.uchicago.edu (Citecheck Hell) writes:
>Does anyone else know someone famous who went to their college, or know
>someone who does?

President James K. Polk and I both went to the University of North 
Carolina.  I *knew* James K. Polk, and you, sir, are no James K. Polk.  

ObUL:  The term "polka dot" comes from the fact that President Polk
derived carnal pleasure from wearing boxer shorts with bright red dots 
printed on the fabric.  (He also frequently bathed together with 
Millard Fillmore in the latter's famous tub.)


-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Manager, SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: a variation on the "aids mary" ul
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:21:26 GMT
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited

In article <80778@ut-emx.uucp>, sine nomine writes:
>
> [variation of "AIDS Mary" deleted]

Last week-end one of the national newspapers in Norway ran a story on AIDS
and used a cover picture that you'd recognize. A nice blonde in front of
a mirror, lipstick in right hand, and - "HIV+" written in huge letters on
the mirror.

Just for the record, main source of male infection at present is unsafe sex
on holidays abroad. Main source of female infection is unsafe sex with foreign
men from high risk countries. (Source of this info is not the newspaper...)

---
YuNoHoo
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From: jle@edsr.eds.com (Johnnie L. Eskue)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Re: Kirk VS Picard (was "Lost In Space" was better)
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: jle@helena.UUCP (Johnnie L. Eskue)
Organization: EDS Research, Dallas, Tx 75230


o.... Not to mention that last night Piccard almost lost hand-to-hand
with Troi, as an old woman, no less ...
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Stone Age Sex
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:06:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies

In article <26502@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us writes:
>  +> "but Otzi is the first known homosexual
>  +>man that enjoyed being fucked. ...
>  +
>  +i don't see how they could tell whether he enjoyed it.
>Yep, might have been the first evidence of necrophilia.

Or, the sperm might have found its way there all by itself, with no sexual
activity at all. Yes, Otzi might have been the first ever TV Evangelist!

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Famous Alumni (was "Lost In Space" was CLEARLY better)
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:41:54 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <aM2-4Q-@engin.umich.edu> ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.005727.27318@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>
>>That's okay, Gates McFadden went to Brandeis, my alma mater.
>>
>>Does anyone else know someone famous who went to their college, or know
>>someone who does?
>>


well, *gulp*, geraldo rivera went to my university (univ. of arizona)...
since i used to work in the admissions data entry dept, i tried to look
up his records. i had a little trouble, 'cause it turns out he was only
"jerry rivers" at the time. 

garry shandling also attended this fine (ahem) institution at one time, but
reportedly did not receive a degree. what a shame.

rachel "gpa is proportional to personality disorder" perkins
bah.


--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,alt.religion.kibology,junk
From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: Re: "Lost In Space" was better
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:14:53 GMT

mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:

>In article <1992Sep29.153443.24786@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.002839.13593@PA.dec.com> snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:

>>Question: When the enterprise is hit by enemy fire, you always see the bridge
>>pitching from side to side and the crew stumbling from side to side according
>>ro the direction of list. But if there is no gravity, why do they 'fall' like
>>this?

They are producing a graviton field around the ship maintiang earth like
gravity on board.  If you watch the last star trek movie you will see
that one of the klingon ships has its graviton field generator destroyed
and everybody starts floating around.

Jim
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Flavored Condoms
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:02:31 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Terry Chan (twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov) wrote:
: In response to Maurice Forrester's post, keith@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Keith Edwards) 
: writes:
:   +
:   +|> Where does the word posh come from?
:   +
:   +I think posh is an acronym from Port Out Starboard Home
:   +which is the way the most expensive tickets on cruises or
:   +voyages by ship were sold. I think the idea was that you 
:   +got a cabin in the shade on the way out and on the way back.
:   +It could have originated as long ago as the 18th century.
: 
: No, it's a description of how seating arrangements had to be done
: for manic-depressives who were compelled to injure waterfowl such
: as seagulls.  In my Webster's, it states that this is from which 
: we get the term "gullible".

yaknow, terry, you should start keeping score. 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: snopes%club33@stlth.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Elvis bit-parts in snuff movie! (Well, sort of)
Organization: Just put everything on the floor; I can find it.
Date: 30 SEP 92 16:54:35    


In article <1992Sep28.101207.9062@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, 
  banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes...

>Ok, so who's got a copy of Elvis's autopsy

I think you have to wait until *after* death to perform an autopsy . . .

 - snopes

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From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.med
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:19:42 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

kelley@vet.vet.purdue.edu (Stephen Kelley) writes:
> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:

> - fellow ... had a compulsion to operate on himself.
> You actually saw this patient?!!  There was a discussion of him 
> in alt.folklore.urban, a few months ago, when Jack Campin and I 
> both remembered reading about it about the time it happened, but didn't
> have any real references beyond a hazy memory of seeing an article. 
> (at least I didn't; Jack may have).

I also have a hazy rememberance of that article.  If I remember
correctly, it was a local person who decided to take out his own
appendix, but was forced to call for assistance after losing more
blood than he should have.  (I may have been reading this article the
same night that they ran a certain episode of the Newleywed Game...)

Though the story itself may be a myth (like most of the things we're
sure we read in newspapers), the obscene medical bills caused by the
DRG system here in NJ are unfortunately all too real.  Earlier this
year I was charged $10,000 for a six day hospital stay (pneumonia).
The hospital was only able to document ~$3500 of actual expenses.

--Scott "next time I'll go the do-it-myself route too" Cromar
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban