Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
From: wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman)
Subject: Re: RAC
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:31:00 GMT
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In article <BuHJHr.GBp@news.udel.edu> lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler) writes:
] In article <BuHJ9v.6Jq@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
] >In article <BuFIK5.C8C@news.udel.edu> lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler) writes:
] >>
] >>[...several choice newsgroups,...]
] >>
] >>this setup make the most sense to me i can think of other groups 
] >>but i think that all of these groups would have enough trafic to 
] >>justify their exastince.
] >
] >So do I... but at the beginning of the summer, the people wanting a
] >superhero/misc pushed for a vote, apparently thinking they could pull it
] >off since the majority of r.a.c. readers were gone for the summer... it
] >failed, but it prevented the more useful marvel/dc/indy split from
] >taking place.
] 
] Why would anyone vote NOT to have new newsgroups, someone mentioned 
] the hasle of more crossposts but can this measure up to having to
] read endless post about Marvel and image? I still dont see what/who 
] would be hurt by forming new newsgroups.

    I would, if I had a news reader crummier than rn.  (I hear that such
beasts exists,...)  If I had to plow through the same articles twice,...
well, even if I liked them the first time, they don't age well.

    In rac(.misc), plowing through Marvel and Image posts is just part
of the usual background noise.  In rec.arts.startrek, it's stardates,
ranks and other roles; in comp.lang.c, it's "how do I get a single
character,...?"  Perhaps there's a better organization for rac, but I'm
not convinced yet by these.

] I would like to hear from someone
] who would vote aganist a newsgroup rac.(vatlint+dark horse+image) and why?

    Because I *do* read Dark Horse's _Flaming_Carrot_, _Cheval_Noir_ and
_DHP_.  Moving Dark Horse off doesn't do anything for me: I'd still have
to plow through Valiant and Image dreck.

    There's another reason for abstaining from (and even voting against)
ballots that hasn't been raised yet: inertia.  News admins don't want
the hassle, and readers want to see the groups stable.  See how many
people were bitching about rac being renamed to rac.misc?  If you don't
produce a newsgroup charter that two-thirds of rac.* readers can be
enthusiastic about, the group *will* *not* pass.  And no one wants to
work as a vote-taker on a failed ballot.

    That doesn't mean that no ballot is better than a good ballot.  In
fact, I'll put up for two new groups: rac.good and rac.bad.  They'll be
moderated, by me: I'll be the final arbiter of "good" and "bad".
Naturally, rac.misc would whither: the only comics that would be left
are things I haven't read, or have no opinion on.  And, I'm a fairly
well-read and opinionated fellow, especially where comics are concerned.

    How about it?  (You don't read any comics that might get thrown in
with _NFL_SuperPro_ and _Archie_ under this new regime, do you?)

    (Moving this over to r.a.c.misc, again,...)

                                           -- Bill K.

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