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From: pheras@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: IBM PS2 again-disk driver
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:52:26 +0200
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

	I've trouble with my IBM/PS2 disk drive. It's a PS/2 mod 80-016, a 386
16 MHz. machine with a 70 Mb. disk. 

	The problem is just the disk. 


Thank you.


Pedro de las Heras


Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: S90405184@hsepm1.hse.nl
Subject: Several minix copies.
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:16:19 GMT

Hi all,

I have a more bureaucratic question, I'm afraid.

I have a PC and an Amiga. Should I buy two versions of MIinix?
I want to run Minix on both. Or can I get differences somewhere?
What's the official way to deal with this?
What's the unofficial (cheapest) way to deal with this?
I happen to be a poor ( ;-) ) student.

Thanx, Jan Evert van Grootheest
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From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: (none given)
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:00:03 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

[ egg on my face - I didn't think a gcc-compiled minix existed at all. 
Btw, did you rewrite all the .x files in gas syntax, or are you using
some weird combination of gcc/bcc/bas? ]

In article <ETLMIKE.92Sep11121917@jerry.ericsson.se> etlmike@jerry.ericsson.se (Mike Wilcox) writes:
>
>Hmmm - it is very slow when no options are used. I have many
>screenful's of benchmark speeds with the kernel compiled with
>different compilers, and different options (especially to GCC).
>Also with different speeds for different versions of GCC!
>
>I think best compilation is with -O -fomit-frame-pointer
>-fstrength-reduce -fcombine-regs.

You might also try gcc-2.2.2, which gives some noticeable speed
increases under some circumstances (notably floating-point which is
essentially useless under minix unless you have patched that too, but
integer performance is also better). 

>I seem to remember that using -finline-functions actually made things
>worse. If anyone can explain THAT one to me, I'd be grateful!

This could be related to the general gcc speed decrease: has the kernel
by any chance grown noticeably? -finline-functions (and some other
options line -fstrength-reduce, -m486) can make the executable image
noticeably bigger.  In general, gcc doesn't even try to make things
small, and binaries compiled with gcc can be bigger than those of other
compilers. 

Size is normally not a problem, but if your minix has buffer-size
limitations (low 1MB or similar - I know the version I used had that
limit), over-all performance can go down due to much smaller buffer
space. 

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: greg@mobius.viewlogic.com (Gregory Larkin)
Subject: Minix on the Zenith Z-100?
Originator: greg@mobius
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:04:54 GMT


Hi there,

Has anyone ever heard of Minix running on a Zenith Z-100 
(circa 1985)?  I received one of these computers when I 
entered college and it's just been collecting dust lately.
I'm pretty sure that it has an 8086 and an 8080A processor
in it.  I can run CP/M as well as a modified MSDOS called
ZDOS.  It has 2 floppy drives (low-density) and 768k of
memory?

Assuming it is not ported, can anyone tell me how to go
about doing it?  Would getting a technical reference to the 
Z-100 be my first step?

Thanks for any info.

-greg
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                 Viewlogic Systems, Inc.  Marlboro, MA 01752
                            greg@Viewlogic.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Dennis Cheng-Zen Yang <dennis@solar.csie.ntu.edu.tw>
Subject: Re: How to upgrade to 1.6.16?
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:06:04 GMT

> 
> In comp.os.minix you write:
> 
> >Hi
> >	I have ftp the patches of 1.6.16 from plains.nodak.edu. But while
> >I apply the patch to the original src of 1.5, the shell script reports
> >that xargs is not found!  I search  the thurough system and also can not
> 
> xargs is new in 1.6 (Yeah, bright idea to use a command for an update
> script which is only produced by that script :-). Look through the
> command.* files, it should be somewhere in there.
> 
> 	Peter

Dear Peter :

	Thank you for your advice, but the patches are shared uuencoded
files and there is no any command.* file there. I wonder if just get 
these posting of patches, how can a minixer figure out where is
xargs.  Since the script will check whether xargs exists firstly,
the following steps will not continue any more.  Would you give
me more hints about how to upgrade ?

	Besides, I try to build a archive in Taiwan now. You can 
anony ftp to earth.csie.ntu.edu.tw. The files here may not be fully
collected from world due to a new minixer for me, but I wish to make 
this site more versatile in the future.

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From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-Pete French.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Minix Sells Around the World! [and how]
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:21:50 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

in article <920908506@gandalf.moria>, michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt) says:
> In article <2924930111.0.p00014@psilink.com>, "Phil Kramer" <p00014@psilink.com> writes:
>> When is the next version of MINIX due?
>> 2-3 years. [!]
> 
> Oh :) You know more than me ... or is it just a guess?! 
> 

I think that youve got the attribution wrong here - wasnt the original post
taken from a Prentice Hall MINIX leaflet in order to show how wrong it is ?
Phil Kramer might not know when the next version of MINIX is due out, but PH
should have some idea (though this might be giving them a bit more credit
than they deserve based on past performance :-) )

From the original :

>From the September '92 Minix Update pamphlet from Prentice Hall
>    (A Paramount Company!)
>
>[ Misleading quotations quoted in a misleading manner ]
>

-bat.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: malay@sae.com (Bob Malay)
Subject: Re: ST Minix & DMA Interrupts
Reply-To: malay@sae.com
Organization: Template Software
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:03:50 GMT

In article 716052337@wega, flebbe@wega.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Olaf Flebbe) writes:
>malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:
>
>
>>I keep getting these very annoying "DMA Interrupt Discarded" messages
>> which also hangs the system.
>
>>System: 4MB 1040STe, TOS2.06, ICD HostAdapter+, Quantum 105MB, Minix 1.5.10.0
>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Whats going on????
>The Quantum drive is recalibrating and can not receive data from the
>ST. You can actually hear the recalibratings: "ZickZack".


Yes, you are correct - prior to the error message I can hear the drive making a
noise similar to the one you described.

>
>>Is there a fix, patch ??
>Yes: fix the file kernel/stwini.c
>You will find a "#define HDC_POLL" change it to 
>   #define HDC_POLL 32000
>
>build a new kernel and be happy.

Thanks for the fix - and it certainly will make me happy! 

Question: what does HDC_DELAY do (in stwini.c)???


>
>Greetings
>  Olaf
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>  Internet:     flebbe@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de




Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer)
Subject: Re: C386 V4.0 patches
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:43:47 GMT

Steve_Kilbane@gec-epl.co.uk writes:

>I tried to download the m68 etc compiler that was posted recently. Couldn't
>get all of it to untar (on a Sun, or on my ST). I suspect it might be due
>to the uudecode I'm using - I don't think it copes with the tables, includes,
>and so on. Where can I get a version that can?

You should already have it. Minix uud handles these files just fine.
They have to have the right names, though, which is a little
inconvenient, since you have to save all those files with the same
names as given in the Subject line and then run uud instead of decoding
them from the newsreader :-(

	Peter

PS: I've put the compiler at ftp.vmars.tuwien.ac.at into the directory
/pub/minix/net/c386/4.0, so anybody who lost the battle against
uudecode can get it from there :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
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Subject: (none given)
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:00:57 GMT

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From:         MARTINEZ JF
Subject:      Re: GNU-C recompiled minix wanted
Comments: To: info-minix@udel.edu
To:           Multiple Recipients of <TORVALDS@KLAAVA.HELSINKI.FI>


In article <1992Sep3.103808.12710@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> vromano@nyx.cs.du.edu
 (Vincenzo Romano) writes:
>>I'm looking for a copy of the Minix Operating System recompiled by using
>>the GNU-C compiler. I already own the Minix 1.5 but I'm sure that on my
>>386sx machine such a recompiled OS should be faster, isn't it?
>
>>Can anyone help me? Can anyone tell me where I can FTP this OS or,at least
>>a pre-compiled minix port of the GNU-C?

>As far as I know, there is no gcc-compiled version of PC-minix
>available.  Gcc won't even run on the basic minix setup: you have to
>upgrade to 386-minix by Bruce Evans (this is a good idea anyway, as it
>allows you to run other programs that won't work under normal minix
>otherwise).  The 386-patches are available (or were when I got them) at
>least from plains.nodak.edu, (/pub/minix/oz/ I think).

>If you don't have to run minix, you could be better off trying out linux
>or 386bsd instead: they give you everything minix does and then some
>(and is compiled using gcc).  For good performance you need at least 4MB
>of memory, though, or you'll swap your brains out trying to run all the
>GNU software.  Read comp.os.linux/comp.unix.bsd for additional info.

>    Linus


Mr Linus is wrong. There is a 32 bits Minix available from the
Minix Centre (Look at the FAQ for details). It IS compiled with gcc
except the kernel proper compiled with Bcc.

GCC generates only 32 bits code but before MINIX puts itself in
protected mode you must use only instructions in the 16 bits set.
So you need a compiler able to generate both 32 and 16 bits code(BCC).
Both compilers are included with the system.

I have it only since last Friday so I haven't had time to extensive
performance tests but gcc being a better compiler than ACK it is no
doubt faster.

It supports virtual terminals and comes with micro-emacs and man pages.
And GCC runs very well on it provided you have 2 Megs for it alone.

   MARTINEZ

   Signature still not fully debugged.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.os.linux
From: hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer)
Subject: Re: (none given)
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:32:28 GMT

etlmike@jerry.ericsson.se (Mike Wilcox) writes:

>I gave up on that, and used a Bruce Evans fix (Cheers Bruce) that uses
>the gld program supplied with bcc. When the -r option is used on
>bcc-assembled objects, it creates gas-objects. A fix to the header
>format of these objects then creates something I can link back into
>the executable kernel.

Can you send me/post this fix? I'd like have just one kind of object
files/libraries lying around.

	Peter
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: theobald@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Allen M. Theobald)
Subject: Minix (no)boot on XT clone
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 02:01:37 GMT


Hello everyone!

I have a perplexing Minix problem I hope to get resolved
in this forum.  I am running (trying to run) Minix 1.5.
However I can't get the thing to boot.  I'm using the
PC boot disk on an IBM XT clone.  However, when prompted
to hit the "=" key I get the following error message:

	Nonmaskable Interrupt
	Process Number -9, pc=0x0060:0x00000A70fd0
		s set RAM disk size(now 0) (real size is from RAM image)
	Kernel Panic: exception in kernel, mm or rfs
	Type any key to reboot

Interestingly enough it boots fine on my brothers AT clone
(when using the AT boot disk).

Originally I thought it may be an IBM compatibility issue.  But
I have version 1.2, and I got it running just fine (I must admit
it was a while ago though).

Any ideas??

Thanks,

Allen   

Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: flebbe@wega.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Olaf Flebbe)
Subject: Re: ST Minix & DMA Interrupts
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:25:37 GMT

malay@sae.com (Bob Malay) writes:


>I keep getting these very annoying "DMA Interrupt Discarded" messages
> which also hangs the system.

>System: 4MB 1040STe, TOS2.06, ICD HostAdapter+, Quantum 105MB, Minix 1.5.10.0
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Whats going on????
The Quantum drive is recalibrating and can not receive data from the
ST. You can actually hear the recalibratings: "ZickZack".

>Is there a fix, patch ??
Yes: fix the file kernel/stwini.c
You will find a "#define HDC_POLL" change it to 
   #define HDC_POLL 32000

build a new kernel and be happy.

Greetings
  Olaf
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Dennis Cheng-Zen Yang <dennis@solar.csie.ntu.edu.tw>
Subject: Re: How to upgrade to 1.6.16?
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:45:18 GMT

> 
> > 	Besides, I try to build a archive in Taiwan now. You can 
> > anony ftp to earth.csie.ntu.edu.tw.
> 
> Your nameserver (csman.csie.ntu.edu.tw) doesn't seem to know about a
> host named earth. 
> 
Sorry that our nameserver has some problems. But you can try earth's IP
 140.112.28.163. If there is still any problem, please mail to me. I'll
try to solve it.

Dennis

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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: delozier@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Greg Delozier)
Subject: Minix on a PS/2 model 30?
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:39:11 GMT

As the subject says, I'm interested if anyone has experiences running
Minix on a PS/2 Model 30/286. This is a 286 machine with 5 megs of 
RAM and a 40 Meg hard drive, and a 1.44 Meg floppy drive. I seem to 
recall some discussion about trouble with PS/2 hard drives, but don't
remember if it was here or in (ahem) comp.os.linux.

Comments?

-greg 

Greg DeLozier/Scientific Analyst, Loral Defense/Graduate Student, Kent State
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: abair@parsons.sps.mot.com (Alan Bair)
Subject: Re: Two quick questions (considering buying Minix)
Organization: AMCU, Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:46:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.183527.11122@orlith.bates.edu> pbeach@abacus.bates.edu (Preston Beach) writes:

   Dear Netland,
     I have two questions about Minix for the Amiga I need answered before
   I decide to buy Minix or not.

   First : Does Minix take over the operating system so that you can't have
   AmigaDOS programs and windows open while using Minix? Is there a way to
   be running both at the same time?

Minix takes over the whole machine, No AmigaDOS support.

   Second : What software/hardware would I need to connect to my school's
   TCP/IP network with an Amiga 2000 running Minix?

Minix currently does not support any network that I know about. There may
be some user developed enhancements that provide this, but I don't know
about them.

   Thanks in advance.
   -Preston

   Preston Beach
   Bates College
   EMAIL : pbeach@abacus.bates.edu
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From: gay@moebius.loria.fr (Gay Stephane)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: FTP archive sites
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:39:59 GMT
	<1992Sep3.103258.12965@hemlock.cray.com>
	<1992Sep4.111512.9792@email.tuwien.ac.at>
Organization: INRIA-Lorraine / CRIN - Nancy - France
In-reply-to: hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at's message of 4 Sep 92 11:15:12 GMT


overby@cray.com (Glen Overby) writes:

>Don't forget that you can always ask Archie where things exist.

hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter J. Holzer) writes:

>Yes, but archie has a few problems, too.

  yes it has. i'm trying to locate bcc and bruce's 386 minix, and
  archie is not really good ...

  does anyone know if (and where) i can find bcc sources ?

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From: acciai_g@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Guy Acciai)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: IBM PS2 again-disk driver
Keywords: MINIX, PS/2, Mircochannel
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:37:04 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <1992Sep13.175227.61@iris-dcp.es> pheras@iris-dcp.es writes:
>
>	I've trouble with my IBM/PS2 disk drive. It's a PS/2 mod 80-016, a 386
>16 MHz. machine with a 70 Mb. disk. 
>	The problem is just the disk. 

	I too have had problems with MINIX on PS/2s model 55SX (a 386SX 12 Mhz 
	machine) with a Microchannel bus.  The BIOS boot disk works just fine, 
	but both an AT boot disk and a PS/2 boot disk seem to have trouble with the 
	hard drive.  I have successfully used the AT disk on numerous clones
	and the PS/2 boot disk on PS/2 model 30-286 (which I beleive is an AT
	ISA bus).  It's nice that the bios disk works, but using 640K (on a 
	machine with several Mb of physical memory) with several MINIX virtual 
	consoles is getting to be a drag....  I assume that IBM has once again 
	changed the HD controller and that I need a new	wini.c driver.  Anyone know 
	of any drivers specifically for MicroChannel PS/2's??  Or (as the FAQ 
	suggests) is this simply a matter of changing disk parameters (NR_SECTORS,
	etc. ) in config.h??? 

							Thanks Much.
								GACE
From: pbeach@abacus.bates.edu (Preston Beach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Two quick questions (considering buying Minix)
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:35:27 GMT
Organization: Bates College, Lewiston, Maine
Originator: pbeach@abacus.bates.edu

Dear Netland,
  I have two questions about Minix for the Amiga I need answered before
I decide to buy Minix or not.

First : Does Minix take over the operating system so that you can't have
AmigaDOS programs and windows open while using Minix? Is there a way to
be running both at the same time?

Second : What software/hardware would I need to connect to my school's
TCP/IP network with an Amiga 2000 running Minix?

Thanks in advance.
-Preston

Preston Beach
Bates College
EMAIL : pbeach@abacus.bates.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Dennis Cheng-Zen Yang <dennis@solar.csie.ntu.edu.tw>
Subject: strange while using clam16 
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:18:27 GMT

Hi
	While I using clam as my login shell, the message such as
'interrupt XXXX' appears very frequently. And after login to another
user by using 'login', the PID of new user is always 15. the more strange
is that while I logout from new user, I'm back to the former user and
the PID 15 is still there while typing 'who'.

	After several tryings, while I type 'who', I can see many
different users there whose PID is all the same --- 15. These users should
have been logout ! Is there anything wrong to make the logout users come
back to the world? So cold :> ! 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix,comp.os.linux
From: laverman@cs.rug.nl (Bert Laverman)
Subject: Re: Minix Sells Around the World! [and how]
Originator: laverman@rug16
Organization: Dept. of Computing Science, Groningen University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:51:02 GMT


> [ A large number pof questions and surprising answers deleted ]
I am speechless. Have I been using Minix? At least half of the
features described here I have and use...

Greetings, Bert
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From: jonas@ipcsun5.his.se (Jonas Mellin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: MINIX on HP Vectra
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:11:39 GMT
Organization: University of Skoevde, Skoevde
In-reply-to: jonas@ipcsun5.his.se's message of 4 Sep 92 12:43:29 GMT


I forgot to mention that we're using MS-DOS 3.2 (or 3) and the Setup
is from MS-DOS 3.1 (A.01.04).

/Jonas
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