From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Subject: Re: The Environment
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:04:18 GMT

jnomina@andy.bgsu.edu (A.P.K.) writes:

>Oh, oh! Can I handle this one?  Please?

Sure. You can try.

>Bush claimed he WANTED to be the educational president.  By your own
>argument and statement, he didn't say he'd SUCCEED in being
>the educational president.  Therefore, purely by logic and your own
>argument presented, he didn't lie, it's quite probable that he really
>DID want to be the educational president.

OK, so it may be stretching it a bit to say that "Bush lied" when he claimed
that he wanted to be the Educational President. And if my memory serves me
correctly, it was more like "I WILL BE the Educational President".

>  Perhaps things (such as
>Congress, not a statement of fact, but of possibility) kept him too
>busy with other things to really succeed in this desire.

Poor excuse. And it doesn't meet with the facts of the situation. It is
a fact that Bush tried to lower student benefits. It is also a fact that
Bush did very little to live up to this campaign promise. Whether one
calls that "lying" is a matter of interpetation. I see it that from his
actions he never intended to be the education president in the first place
therefore his claims that he wanted to be the education president were
lies.

>  Same can
>be said for "Environmental President".

Nope, it can't. At the Rio Summit, Bush was saying "I *AM* the environmental
president," citing all kinds of accomplishments he had made. Unfortunately,
all of his accomplishments were either really someone elses or weren't
as successful as he would lead you to believe that they were. And his
FAILURES in the environment were so abyssmal as to completely overshadow
any gains he may have made.

>  As an addition, I had a few
>problems last year trying to get a grant for school, because of a
>conflict between the D.V.A. (Dept. of Veteran's Affairs, formerly
>the V.A.) and the school.  Who finally helped me receive my grant
>when all else had failed?  A Republican Congressman...

So whut?

Since when have REPUBLICAN Congressmen had the corner on helping constituents?

>Now about that Iran-Contra stuff... maybe he did, and maybe he didn't.
>I can't say beyond any doubt.  I can say this.  In a society of
>innocent until proven guilty, he's still innocent.

Yes, in our system of justice the accused is innocent until proven guilty.
However, that wasn't what I was talking about. I was merely pointing out that
according to others involved in the situation, Bush has lied about his
involvement in the Iran-Contra affair. Bush will probably never have to
answer in court for those lies.

I'll go on believing Bush lied about Iran Contra and you can go on believing
that Clinton was recruited by the KGB in 1969 while he was visiting Moscow
as a student.

>Think Mr. Clinton is going to get off so easy in four
>years?  He's promised WAY too many things to too many people to
>be able to give everything he's promised to everyone.

Time will tell. Are you a fortune teller? Can you see into the future?
I think Clinton will be one of the best presidents this country has ever
had and will probably serve a second term with his VP succeeding him for
two more terms.

>Just an advocate for truth, facts, and logic,

And emotion.
-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
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