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From: marshal@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Timothy Pat Marshall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Chiefs QB
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:53:57 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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Summary: Is Krieg the answer?
Keywords: QB

 I was wondering how any other Chief's fans felt.  Is Dave Krieg
the QB to lead the Chiefs to a SB?  Several people have told me that
he just needs a little more time  and he will be leading us to the
promised land.  I have my doubts.  I think the Chiefs might be getting
old, as a team.  They need a good proven veteran QB to lead them.
How about Joe Montana?  I believe Krieg will always be inconsistant.
Any other views on the matter?

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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Dan Reeves wants to go to Chicagao.
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:25:31 GMT

In article <103792@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
>In article <1ictqtINNett@crcnis1.unl.edu> shiva@cse.unl.edu (V. Sivaramakrishnan) writes:
>>Dan Reeves' comments on Ditka's firing:
>>" It is a shame if this news is indeed true.
>>  But I would be interested in the job !!!".
>
>Please, no.  The Bears have been, if nothing else, extraordinarily
>entertaining for much of the last decade.  But the departure of
>McMahon...and Gault...and Marshall...and Hilgenberg...and Fencik...
>and Singletary...and Payton...and Suhey...and McKinnon...and Wilson...
>and now Ditka...  have all contributed to an gradual homogenizing
>of the team.  Having Reeves as the head honcho would just make it worse;
>he's the coaching equivalent of plain cardboard.
			.
			.
			.
Surely you didn't forget Hampton, and also
the "character" receivers, like Ortego and
Margerum and Gentry?

Someone recently posted here a one-line tri-
bute to Ditka, along the lines of "a winner".
There was more to it than that:  Ditka was a
Bear.  See *Sports Illustrated*'s profile of
him in '85 (I think) devoted to that theme.
I don't think he ever understood the journal-
ists or commentators when they described
"playing for pride"; what else was there?
-- 

Cameron Laird
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From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
Subject: Bills/Oilers: Home field edge?
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:14:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro

To write off the 18-on-11 advantage Buffalo enjoyed during the second half
yesterday as home field advantage is an insult to home fields everywhere.

The referees gave Buffalo a BIG headstart on their historic comeback,
helped
it along with less consequential but still questionable calls, and
then handed them the game in overtime.

To wit:

1) Beebe holds up the ball on an out to show he successfully skimmed it off
the turf. Jerry Grey cannily pokes it out of his hands and falls on it. I
still don't know if the ref incorrectly called Beebe down by contact, or if
this was one of the infamous "the whistle blew" cases. 

2) Same series, Beebe makes the out-then-in TD catch. Therefore the Bills
were given the undeserved TD twice.

3) I know that the Oilers are generally populated by attitude cases. But,
on
more than one occasion, Buffalo players walked up to jawing sessions after
plays and started throwing punches - deserving ejection - and not a single
flag was thrown. One was the reserve LB on kickoff coverage who followed up
an uncalled late hit by taking a swing at the returner. The other, to my
surprise, was my Illini Henry Jones, who appeared to have a Vietnam
flashback in the early 4th quarter. No flag there either.

4) Mid 4th quarter - Oilers' missed FG drive. Bomb to Jeffires is broken up
by groundhogging him without ever looking for the ball. No flag.

5) Talley's adorable hug in OT. To overlook that is awarding the game to 
Buffalo. Nobody deserves that kind of homefield advantage.

6) This one may be my misperception, but I thought the tackle on the Bills
DB was maybe a 5-yard facemask penalty, maybe not. Nobody actually even
touched his mask, but the tackler had two or three fingers inside his
helmet from the bottom. To call the 15 and start the Bills in FG range
added insult
to insult to insult to insult to mortal injury.

The only call I saw that went the Oiler's way all half was the roughing
call
on Bruce Smith. I didn't think this was a blatant bad call, but I wouldn't
have made it - it neatly evened up the Jeffires non-PI in my opinion.

The Bills are a tremendous, resilient team that will get better and better
the longer they can survive, with all the wounded talent slowly getting
healthy. Reich was amazing all half. The Oilers secondary looked like they
were waiting for the game to end. However, when you're up 32 points, you 
should be forced to choke 33 points worth to lose the game. The Oilers were
not given that treatment.

By the way, this game confimed my sneaking suspicion that Christensen (sp?)
is the best announcer NBC has. He was terrific all day long, with one slip
when he and Charlie got a bit schmaltzy before the OT started.

=====
Joe Sterbenc - Intelligent Vehicle Highway Systems - Motorola
All opinions are my own, but can be rented for reasonable rates
sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com
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From: sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager)
Subject: Re: Greatest Moment....Bears
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:51:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.192455.11200@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Mikemoe) writes:
> One I remember 'watching' with my father and uncle many years ago...
> 
> Bears are in overtime, and they are receiving. The receiver promptly
> runs the ball back for a touchdown. i believe this is one of the shortest
> overtime periods on record.
> 
> Can anyone give me the name of the returner and the opponent?
> 
> | Michael Miller   millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com                 |

Dave Williams against Detroit.

Mike Sager
From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas Blindness (was Re: Dallas *rookies*, a synops*ice*)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 20:32:04 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

In article <C0E61E.1rC@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews) writes:
>In article <1iafioINNgq9@news.aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
>>
>>3) Jimmy Smith (WR) - They didn't need him and thankfully so, he
>>spent 90% of the season on IR and has played only in the mopup
>>of the Bears.  [...]  GRADE (B)
>>
>>5) Clayton Holmes (CB) - His coverage skills are still in question.
>> [...] GRADE (B)
>>
>>7) Chad Hennings (DL) - drafted 7 years ago; His defensive line play 
>>has been awful, so bad in fact that he was not even in the rotation
>>when Dallas lost 2 of its starters to injury in one game.
>> [...] GRADE (B-)
>>
>My goodness;  I wish my teachers graded me as easily as *ice* does his
>precious Cowboy rookies.  (What would a player have to do to get a C+
>or -- God forbid -- lower???)  Is the *ice*man really saying that
>every single Dallas rookie player was BETTER than average (e.g. "C")
>than the rest of the NFL's rookie class?

If you would have bothered to post the rest of my message (god forbid
we include any disclaimers!), you will notice (on a second or third  
look,... well, maybe not) that I said FOR THEIR DRAFT POSITION.  Many 
teams have rookies that don't contribute at all.  That is a grade 'C'
rookie.  Other rookies don't make the team, that is a grade 'F' rookie.
Every one of the Dallas rookies that made the team has contributed in
the regular season except for Jimmy Smith.  I graded him on potential
alone.

Yeah, I graded them high, but I graded them vs the players that didn't
make the team.  Only 4 rookies made the team and played a significant 
amount.  All four of them start, and if that isn't at least a grade
'B' rookie, I don't know what is.  j.Smith could have gotten a 'C', but
the plays he made on special teams were enough for me.  Hennings was
a 11th round pick and deserves a B- just for making the team (based on
his DRAFT POSITION). 

Also, remember that Dallas (not Philly) is 13-3.  Only 7 rookies made the
squad and and it is just possible that all 7 were above average for the
rest of the league.  Like I said, 4 start and that is at least a grade
'B' rookie.  The others got grades of B, B-, and B which is my personal
opinion of them from news accounts that I follow closely.  If that is so
hard to believe, choke on this weekend's score!  (if it goes D's way :-))

*ice*

p.s., if you want a list of grade 'C' or lower players for Dallas:

Ike Holt
Jimmy Jones
Vinson Smith
Godfrey Myles
Dixon Edwards
Ray Horton
Frank Cornish
Alan Veingrad
Tommy Agee
Tony Hill
Derrick Gainer
Mike Saxon

Hope that makes you happy....

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From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:37:58 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)

In article <16B4EDE04.ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> istre@ricevm1.rice.edu writes:
>As for the Packers, If there was an award for "Most Die-Hard Fans", their
>fans would get my vote hands down although Browns fans would warrant a lot
>of consideration.

Gosh, it's nice to be notices :-).

>Every Packers' home game I have seen is always full in
>spite of the fact that the Packers have had so-so teams for years. Let's
>not forget about the long waiting list for season tickets (which I was told
>when I was in Green Bay several years ago is FIVE years).

I believe it's closer to ten years, perhaps even longer.


-- 
Rick Schaut
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Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
From: jangi@ccs.northeastern.edu (Shrirang Jangi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Relatively Few Posts from 9ers/Redskins Fans
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:22:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northeastern University

In article <1993Jan8.004254.5295@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.222908.4997@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> jangi@ccs.northeastern.edu (Shrirang Jangi) writes:
>>I think the reason why 9ers/Skins fans do not raise as much cheap talk as do
>>the Eagles/Cowboys fans is because the former fans are at ease with 
	<stuff deleted>
	    
>Since there are many anti-niner-whiners out there, any posts by Niner
>fans would only solicit strongly ingrained biases/prejudices and
>no amount of facts will change their minds. It is pointless. There is
>a saying that goes something like "Dogs that bark do not bite". Well,
>the Niner "dogs" refrain from barking. Besides, experience should tell
>ALL that woofing and claiming this or that has had a way of backfiring.
>Yes, within, (at least this NINER FAN) we are confident and faithful
>to the Niners. On the other side of the coin, I at least, realize that
>the playoffs have a way of equalizing teams. For players who have
>never played a big time playoff (intense pressure), at game day,
>they get weak knees or choke. This can also happen to veterans who
>question their abilities or the opponents superiorty. Anything can
>happen in the playoffs (actually any game) and the louder you WOOF,
>the harder you could FALL! 
>
>Historically, in war, the ritual of screaming is part of the psych.
>There are war cries that preclude the battle and also during the battle.
>In hand to hand combat, armies attacking each other, go in screaming.
>This instills fear and also instill confidence. Then you have your
>"behind the lines" warriors who kill and run, all in silence. This
>are considered the elite. They do not brag or shout, but they don't
>have to. Well, the Niners are the black/green/red berets of the NFL.
>They don't have to scream. They just go in and destroy and leave. :-)
>Now I'm sure this will get some responses. It was done only in humor.k
>
	That seems to be the image that 49ers have conveyed all season:
	Cool, calm, able to kill with a lift of a finger but yet none of
	those arrogant "in your face" attitude. Kind of like the Redskins
	last year. These 2 teams IMHO will finish top two in NFL's classiest
	team award if there is any.

	How about the best cheerleaders in NFL? I'd say the Cowgirls
	cheerleaders look mighty good in their outfits.

>-- 
> ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
>everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Wildcard playoffs passer ratings
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:37:44 GMT
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Gary Strand (gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu) wrote:

>   1 Frank Reich       34    21   61.8    289   8.50    4 11.8    1  2.9 115.9
>   2 Warren Moon       50    36   72.0    371   7.42    4  8.0    2  4.0 103.0

Would anyone care to calculate the ratings for Reich in the 2nd half
and Moon in the 1st half? The way I remember it, both were absolutely
*HOT*.
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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Subject: Landry to the Bears?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:54:14 GMT

I just heard on WGN news that the Bears are considering asking to
interview Landry for the coaching position.

Imagine my thoughts, my being a Cowboy fan.

But, is that Tom or Greg Landry?




-- 

Gary Beason    			      
Purdue University
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:46:11 GMT
Subject: Re: 49ers/Skins
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>(Bob Marshall) /  6:15 pm  Jan  9, 1993 /

>I think the key to the game was the 49ers' D. They only allowed 73 yards
>on the ground, and the secondary did a fine job for most of the game,

Yes!  I think the biggest worry of most 9er fans going into the playoffs
has been the defense, but their play against the 'Skins reminded me of
the Super Bowl champion teams of the '80s. If they can keep this up -
and if Young stops putting the ball on the ground - the "Drive for Five"
will likely become reality.  It should be noted that the field
conditions, which were supposed to help the 'Skins, probably helped the
'Niners more by slowing down the Redskin running game.  Both teams had
difficulty running in the middle of the field where the turf was really
chewed up.

As for the secondary, I was particularly pleased to see 
Eric Davis make key contributions.  I've always liked his play
and don't forget he has one of the most thankless
jobs in pro sports - a young cornerback playing opposite an established
quality CB (Griffin, of course).  In this situation the opposition will
always try to exploit him, but he has risen to the occasion all year
(except in the Phoenix game :^().

- Gary Rosen
From: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bledsoe to enter the draft
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:10:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan4.191030.9830
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
Originator: jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu

Well, to the dismay of Cougar fans everywhere, the expected announcement
came just a short time ago here... Washington State junior QB Drew Bledsoe
will indeed make himself eligible for the upcoming NFL draft.  Drew was
classy as always at the press conference, and although we are disappointed,
we all wish him the best.

Jim
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Vikes gone... when's the draft?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:27:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.000731.27398@serval.net.wsu.edu> jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>Now that the playoffs are effectively over for me, I'm looking ahead to the
>QB change that will necessarily be made by the Vikes.  I can't remember who
>has been saying it all along, but one poster has made it clear that he is not
>in favor of a quick fix like Montana, and I agree, especially if we are going
>to have to give up very much to get him.  I would rather see the Vikes use
>the draft to acquire a good young QB if possible.  Anyone know who might be
>available late in the first round (except for Toretta... I really don't want
>them to go after him... I haven't been impressed with him at all, and the
>Heisman was a joke).

Down where the Vikings draft, if they want a QB,  I think the finest QB
in the class will still be available even though Mirer and Bledsoe will
probably be gone, and that's the University of Florida's Shane Matthews.
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From: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM (Kenneth Melcher)
Subject: Re: No Cowboys 'D' in Pro Bowl
Reply-To: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:14:21 GMT

In article 27701@wam.umd.edu, macole@wam.umd.edu (The Dude) writes:
>In article <ljqq0qINN73l@langtry.cs.utexas.edu> joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just) writes:
>>In article <Bztz8t.4ry@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
>>>Does anyone feel it was right that no Dallas Cowboy players made it to the Pro
>>>Bowl this year? They have the #1 defense in the league. Granted their defense
>>>is much more a 'team' defense rather than a couple of players excelling at a
>>>certain position, I feel that they at least deserved one person from their
>>>squad on the Pro Bowl roster to represent the team. I know that the Pro Bowl
>>>rosters are voted on.... I just makes me mad that the Cowboys have worked so
>>>hard on defense this year and got the #1 ranking and no one from the team made
>>>it to the Pro Bowl.
>>>
>>>Eric
>>
>>The Cowboys do have a great defense, but they are good because they work well
>>as a team.  The Pro Bowl recognizes outstanding individuals, not teams.  It
>>does not follow that if a defense is good it must have good individual
>>players (although the converse is often true).  I notice that in your article
>>you do not mention any Cowboys defensive players who deserve to make the Pro
>>Bowl.  In my opinion, the best players on the Cowboys' defense are Charles
>>Haley, Jim Jeffcoat, and Ken Norton.  But I doubt that these players are better
>>than the defensive ends and linebackers who were elected to the Pro Bowl.
>>
>>A defense should not be judged by the number of players it has in the Pro
>>Bowl.  And, as we have seen, good defenses sometimes have few (or no) players
>>in the Pro Bowl.
>>
>Much better said!  Although Haley's numbers are down, Jeffcoat's numbers are
>incredible for the short amount of time he is on the field.  And Ken Norton
>would not beat out Wilbur Marshall or the Saints crew, because he doesn't 
>have to do as much as they do.  In a good defense, the wealth is spread 
>throughout the defense.  Just face it folks, Da 'Boys are here to stay! :-)
>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                                      Only until Sunday!

>Hmm...would you get rid of Jeffcoat, Tolbert, and Casillas for Reggie White?

IN A HEARTBEAT!!!!! (and I bet the JJ's would, too!) 
>
>Mario
> 

GO IGGLES!!!!!!!
From: tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Posting Up to minute game status: A positive twist
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:07:46 GMT
Reply-To: tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly)
Organization: NCR European Development Center

In article <1993Jan4.083607.13649@data-io.com> dietz@parody.Data-IO.COM (Kent Dietz) writes:
>I for one would like to thank those who posted the fascinating
>record of the Buffalo comeback.  I came in to work this morning
>(Sunday) and Houston was already up three or more touchdowns, so 
>I decided to listen to my Christmas present (CD gift set of the
>Monterey Pop Festival of 1967 -- bizarre but interesting).

 I also find the play-by-play helpfull.  Living in Europe, it is difficult to
 get more than 1 football game a weekend, and an occaisional Monday night game
 ( which starts at 3:00am for me so I don't watch too many ).

 The play - by plays are about the only way to get a good view of whats going
 on in the games, as the International Herald Tribune and USA Today don't print
 full game review of all the games.

 So to everyone who has posted play-by-plays THANKS!!!

 [ stuff deleted ] 

>
>As a caveat, those posts have always kind of annoyed my in the past,

 Yeah, but thats why we have the 'N' key.

>but now I see that they do serve a purpose for the unfortunate few
>that may not be able to watch or listen, for whatever reason.


>
>Kent Dietz
>Vikings in '93 (bummer!)
>
>PS: Kelvin,  I think I've wrapped it up! Check the time stamp!

RAY IS GONE!!!!!!

GIANTS in '93

Tom
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From: zombie@EBay.Sun.COM (zombie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ditka in Denver
Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:47:29 GMT
Organization: None of your business
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In article Gox@hpuerca.atl.hp.com,  krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes) writes:
>
>Elway and big Mike! God that would be interestion

"interestion"?  What's that?


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Subject: MY FUTURE PREDICTION FOR THE SUPER BOWL....:)
From: steve eliason <MV013374@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:46:47 CST
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

    I think San Francisco and the Buffalo Bills will appear in the Super
 Bowl.  San Francisco will win by a last minute touchdown.  It will be a
 close game.




   STEVE P. ELIASON
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From: floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich)
Subject: Re: My NFL Playoff Predictions
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:12:47 GMT

Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>                                SF, Washington and Dallas all lost to
>Phoenix (SD beat Phoenix), Miami and Buffalo lost to Indianapolis (SD
>beat them twice--one was a shutout), Pittsburgh lost to Cleveland (SD
>beat Cleveland *in* Cleveland). So maybe SD didn't win the games against
>the "tough" teams, but they didn't fold in the "easy" games, either,
>like the above-mentioned teams all did at least once (I'm sure I could
>find a game Philly choked on too, but none come to mind).

Well, by all means, make one up!  That's essentially what you did when 
you claim that Dallas lost to Phoenix this year.


Floyd Goodrich
floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com