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From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:12:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: crashnburn

In article <3_hywsp@rpi.edu> vasisn@rpi.edu writes:

I was curious about a rule in volleyball. If team A spikes the ball that lands on the head of a player in team B and crosses the net is the game still in play?

niraj vasishtha
vasisn@rpi.edu



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nigaj,

In a word, yes.  Any part of the body above the waist is a legal contact.

Rick
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli)
Subject: Re: Outdoor net set
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:05:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.221121.22757@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz) writes:
>
>   The Net from Centerline is a great net. Park & Sun has a good net
>also. The Centerline poles are better than the P&S net, but the P&S net
>is better. Neither net is really "better" than the other. They are both
>about $700. You can get The Net direct from Centerline in about a week.
       ^^^^^
Sorry dude but $700 pesos maybe....The Net Centerline is $235

>
>   GBVC (Greater Boston Volleyball Club) sells both nets really cheap.

Where are you from...You seems to know quite a bit about New England Volleyball
I didn't think Jay selled nets!
>
>
>
>                                        - Drummer -


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From: jrm@stegosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (John R. Mudd)
Subject: Re: more height!!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer & Information Science
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:43:03 GMT

In article <168468DE6.R3TLM@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R3TLM@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:
>     For the help I got on my search for more height:
>           Exercises:
>                 bicycling in high gear

Bad idea, unless you want to mess up your knees.  Cycling with high gears
(and the implied low cadence) for any kind of distance and in any type of
inclined terrain places a *great* deal of strain on the ligaments around
the knees.  If you can push a big gear and keep your RPMs up, i.e., down-
hill, tailwind, and/or very strong--then and only then is this a good idea.

... John
From: dave@isye.gatech.edu (Dave Thurman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Is V-Ball this expensive everywhere?
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:27:40 GMT

julian@frey.lbl.gov (julian cortella) writes:

>In article <ASH.92Aug12105054@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>>To play indoor volleyball in the Ann Arbor rec league, I have to fork
>>out $40 for a 10 week season.  This is the A level, with 2 refs, one


This won't work everywhere, but what we did for a summer league was to
start our own.  In 1987 we started an outdoor doubles league with mens
and coed leagues with twelve teams a piece.  The league cost $20 per
team, and all the money went to pay for nets and balls.  Each year the
league got bigger, with a women's league being added.  

The last year I ran the league (1991), the leagues had over 70 teams 
combined.  Fees are now $30 per team.  We were still using *all*
the money to pay for nets, balls, supplies, insurance, etc.  None of
the organizers received payment for their involvement.  Fortunately 
the work has now been split up among approx. 6 people.  

We play in a city park, which the city provides to us for free in
return for our league paying for their own insurance (the city doesn't
want us to sue them if someone gets hurt).  We carried a $1M blanket
liability insurance policy to cover the league against bystanders and
property being damaged.  Everyone who plays 'joins' the league as a
member and waives their ability to hold anyone else in the league.

So for all this, everyone gets to play once a week for 12 weeks.  They
also have the right to check out the nets in between leagues (Thurs to
Tues) for their own use.  They are responsible for the nets, etc. but
we've never had any problems.  We do ask that they not take them to
company picnics, family reunions, etc. where a large number of
unskilled players will climb all over it.   We also use the nets when
we host local tournaments (league members get a discounted entry fee
too).  Anyway, it's worked well for us for several years and I've
rarely heard any complaints.

BTW, we use Centerline Nets, which we've found to be some of the
nicest, most durable, and easy to set up.  I liked them so much, I
bought one for myself when I moved away from the league.



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From: brian@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Fennimore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: WL Final Four on tv ?
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:04:01 GMT
Reply-To: brian@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Fennimore)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <13299.2a87a28f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> tine@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>
>Just trying to forget the disappointing volleyball tournament at the
>Olympics, from an italian point of view :), I wonder if one of you
>guys knows if ABC,NBC or CBS will broadcast the World League
>Final Four. (Too bad Brasil did not qualify.)
>
>Thanks in advance,  Stefano

I'm hoping they will be carried by Sports Channel America, as the regular
WVL matches have been before the olympics. That way, I can tape them if I
I don't watch them at broadcast time; a task next to impossible during the
olympics on NBC.

-Brian


Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: alvear@panini.cs.jhu.edu (Domingo Bruno Alvear)
Subject: Re: more height
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.215236.26718@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov> jsy@Aig.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jennifer Yu) writes:
>In article <Bsu7DM.92r@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart) writes:
>|> R3TLM@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Spite) writes:
>|> 
>|> >      This one's fairly simple. What can I do to get more height?
>|> > Any exercises you would recommend? I'm 5'8" and have a 25" vertical,
>|> > but that doesn't do me any good against someone 6'4" with 18" upwards.
>|> 
>|> Wear spike heels.
>|> 
>|> Daniel Lewart
>|> d-lewart@uiuc.edu
>
>My coach tells us to do leg presses and squats.  Jumping in a pool will
>take the stress off of your joints.  We also have to do those drills where
>you just keep jumping and jumping at the net (like you're blocking).  I
>hear there are shoes for it too...  
>
>Jen Yu
The shoes are called strength shoes and are really weird shaped so that you
use your calves a lot.  I assume that working your calves would also help
increase your vertical.

I haven't measured my vertical jump.  What's a good way to do this?  I can
block on a legal net and am 5'4", so I must have a pretty good one.  :-)

Dom (alvear@cs.jhu.edu)


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From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: 8/16 AVP Tour spoilers
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:21:50 GMT

  I sat on the couch watching TV all afternoon as I'm now on crutches
  after spraigning my ankle yesterday blocking at the net. Well, I
  flipped by NBC, and what do you know - live coverage of the AVP Tour!
  They had to end early at 14-13 in the Hovland/Johnson versus Lewis/
  (um...I forget). Who won this match? It was the semis. The announcers
  said they'd cover the finals tomorrow - WOW!

  But what surprised me most, they said Kiraly/Steffes had been upset
  earlier in the day!!! But they didn't say by whom. ??????????
  Does that mean they're still in it through the loser's bracket?

  _____    "But you can't really call that a dance. It's a walk." - Tony Banks
 /  ___\  ___  __ ___   ___      _____________   gene@cs.wustl.edu
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 \_____/ \___/ |_| |_| \___/     |volleyball |   gene@camps.phy.vanderbilt.edu
 Gene Van Buren, Kzoo Crew, Washington Univ. in St. Louis - #1 in Volleyball
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer

What's up Dan . Yo soy un jugador muy peligroso.

How come your news appear under the 12th of august if you send it
many days before?

Regards

Juanjo Karmona "Jugador Espanhol"
  

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From: sandhu@seas.gwu.edu (Jasvinder Sandhu)
Subject: football in washington d.c.
Originator: sandhu@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:12:51 GMT

today (monday 17th august) on home team sports they'll show
international tournament from leeds
at 7.30pm
jas
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Reply to Carlos'
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:13:44 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <2A8A04D9.3542@ics.uci.edu>, fkhoury@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Diego A. Maradona) writes:
> As a Syrian, I grew up worshiping the Argentenian soccer cuz my whole body 
> shakes when they are playing.  When watching these guys play, I get the 
> feeling that a lot of them were born with a soccer ball in their hands.
                                  
Well that would explain a lot :-) :-) :-).

Alan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: narsimha@nada.ics.Hawaii.Edu (Narsimha Polkampally)
Subject: Re: Prediction re: Arsenal
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:45:22 GMT

In article <3841@keele.keele.ac.uk> csp48@seq1.keele.ac.uk (J.W. Kirriemuir) writes:
>Following last nights performance, I now wish to alter my prediction of
>a few days ago concerning Arsenal.
>
>For "relegated by easter" now read "relegated by february"

Dream on! 

Well, there is no harm in dreaming, just look at my .sig and you will know :-)

Cheers,
-P
__
			East Sterlingshire for Div 1 (someday).
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FIFA proposed changes to (OCEANIA) Southern America
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:59:52 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Ken" == shadlin  (shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu)

Ken> Someone wrote that South America gets only 2-3 spaces for WC94.  I
Ken> think that is incorrect.  South America gets 3-4 spots (identical
Ken> to Italia 90). 

Remeber that for WC90, the world champion was Argentina, hence a free
spot for South America. For WC94, Germany is the world champion, hence
a free European spot.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: fs@cam-orl.co.uk (Ferdi Samaria)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Soccer in Barcelona 92 & New Rules
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:36:39 GMT
Organization: Olivetti Research Ltd, Cambridge, England

Hi Michal,

> Well, England-Cameroon was mainly an exchange of penalty kicks.
> Anyway, I admit there were some good games, but quite few of them.
> The main reason of it, in my opinion, has nothing to do with this
> or that little rule, but with the system of eliminations in the
> championship. The first round consisting of 36 nearly meaningless
> matches - who will care to play with spirit if 3 times 0:0 score
> guarantees qualification to 2nd. round?

This may be correct, and it would be interesting to study new possibilities 
for the opening rounds.
> 
> From 2nd. round on it is more interesting, but still evolving winners
> by penalties makes the championship be a random generator.
> Hence, why to play soccer at all? Just throw a coin and who
> wins will be champion...  (of course, I don't mean it!!!!)
> 
I do not agree with this. If two teams manage to end up in a draw after
120 minutes of playing, it is fair to say that they are quite level. You
need a way of having a winner. Yes, penalties are equivalent (almost)
to throwing a coin, except they are incredibly exciting. When I watch a
game as a neutral observer, I always hope it will end with to penalty kicks.
Don't you ? Except, of course, if it is my own team.

> 
> >I have no objections to change, it just worries me that the present tendency
> >to modify the existing rules is not a consequence of Italy 90 but of USA 94.
> 
> I don't understand. What do you mean?
> 
I mean to say that FIFA, in order to attract more people to the games,
might (is already) contemplate the idea of modifying the rules to please 
a non-soccer audience. And that idea really disturbs me.

Cheers.
-- 
Regards,

Ferdi.
fs@cam-orl.co.uk
fs@eng.cam.ac.uk
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From: moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan)
Subject: Re: Soccer in Barcelona 92 & New Rules
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:17:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Aug12.130906.6572@cam-orl.co.uk> fs@cam-orl.co.uk (Ferdi Samaria) writes:
>
   <much debate rule changes and boring WC '90 deleted for brevity>
>
>I have no objections to change, it just worries me that the present tendency
>to modify the existing rules is not a consequence of Italy 90 but of USA 94.

Ferdi, do I have your attention?  Good.  Read this carefully now, and remember it.
The United States has -no- input into FIFA as far as rule changes are concerned.
It has -no- votes, -no- influence.  None.  Zero.  Zip.  Nada.   ABC, NBC, CBS, ESPN,
FDA, CIA, FBI, and other acronyms have none either.  With no national professional
league, and no national television contracts to hold over FIFA's head, our networks
are <thankfully> impotent to force rule changes on football.  The mere fact that the
World Cup is being played here in 1994 does not give them any more power.  There was
no reason for FIFA to give any one of them broadcast rights, there is enough
competition among networks and superstations that none of them would have the clout
to force rule changes through to bid on the contract.

There is one reason and one reason only that FIFA instituted the no backpass rule, 
and it sounds like this: "nil-nil."  Get the picture?  A hard fought, two-way
pitched battle that results in a 0-0 tie is exciting.  A game where fullbacks boot
the ball back to their keeper from midfield any time an opposing player comes within 
10 meters of them is -boring-.  And many of those boring games wind up 0-0, as teams 
play not to lose rather than to win.  Deciding that the sport was in danger of becoming 
a leading cure for insomnia at its alleged highest level of play, FIFA determined that 
this ridiculous method of time-wasting had to go.  Perhaps the rule goes too far.  Time
will tell.  However, there is not a single human being, governing body, or corporate
entity in the United States that had -any say whatsoever- on the design or implemen-
tation of backpass rule.  So please, cut the "Americanizing" crap and if there is any 
blame to place, place it squarely on FIFA's shoulders, not ours.  To paraphrase the 
infamous John Bigbooty, "It ain't our damned rules committe, monkey-boy."  

Have a nice day.

-Bob Moynihan                     Bush/Quayle '92: Just say noe.
 moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com         Go Ipswich Town!
From: tan@cis.ksu.edu (Joo Tan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Three in a row
Keywords: Arsenal, Man.Utd.
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:39:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: depot.tan.714354207
Distribution: world
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

When was the last time Arsenal and Man. Utd both started the season
with three losses each?? That is, of course, assuming Arsenal will lose
at Anfield (quite likely) on Sunday, and Man Utd lose to Southampton
(probable but not likely) on Monday.

Let's keep the ball rowing.


--Joo Tan

  Kansas State U.
  Manhattan, KS
  USA
From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: pass-to-goalkeeper game situation
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:35:34 GMT
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


 
: The rule doesn't exclude the goalie, it's just that when the rule was 
: introduced there was no ban on pass backs. In fact if a goalie deliberately
: handles outside the box to stop a goal he is sent off. Surely he should also
: be sent off for deliberately and illegally handling inside the box also. It
: makes no sense otherwise.

  Absolutely not!  Since the keeper is authorized to use his hands inside
  his penalty area - the use of his hands to stop a goal can never be
  penalized.  The use of hands by a defender to stop a goal has been declared
  'Serious Foul Play' (eg Send Off) being committed within the guidelines
  of one of the 9 penal offenses.  In this case the ruling goes into effect
  at the moment a teammate kicks the ball to his keeper and the misconduct
  is that he must play with his feet and not pick up the ball with his hands
  should he do so - the rule says the punishment is an IFK to the opponents.
  No more no less.  No 'serious misconduct' for which a Caution or Send Off
  should be imposed.  It's a minor offense - a technical offense.  There is
  no fairness in any harsher discipline.

  

-- 
Mike Schmitt - Disclaimer: These opinions are not my employer's.  My opinions 
are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America.  If you don't like it - get out of my country.   
"Professionals are predictable, it's the amateurs that are dangerous."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: another early termination question
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:00:06 GMT

In article <l8jvldINNee3@earth.cs.utexas.edu> eric@cs.utexas.edu (Eric Thomas Brown) writes:
> .... What was
>the rule again about the referee stopping a match early?  If the referee
>decided that it was dangerous to continue the match, could he stop it
>with about 10 minutes left to go?  What is the exact rule about this?

The way I interpretate the rule is that a referee may stop a match
at any time given a valid reason.  How the match result stands with 
regards to the rules of the tournament is subject to further interpretation
(hence the dilema we have in our league).

From my original posting:

The only copy of the Laws I have is "1983 FIFA Laws of the Game, Guide for 
Referees, USSF".  But I doubt this rule has changed since then.  It says:

LAW VII - DURATION OF THE GAME
	Decisions by the International Board
	(1)	If a match has been stopped by the Referee, before the 
		completion of the time specified in the rules, for any
		reason stated in Law V it must be replayed in full unless
		the rules of the competition concerned provide for the
		result of the match at the time of such stoppage to stand.

LAW V - REFEREES
(d)	Have discretionary power to stop the game for any infringement of
	the Laws and to suspend or terminate the game whenever, by reason
	of the elements, interference from spectators, or other cause, he
	deems such stoppage necessary.....

	Decisions by the International Board
	(9)	By para. (d) of Law V the Referee is empowered to terminate
		a match in the event of grave disorder, but he has no power
		or right to decide, in such an event, that either side is
		disqualified and thereby the loser of the match.


Hope this helps.


-- 
Garry Archer Esq.	archer@hsi.com
3M Health Information Systems,	Wallingford, Connecticut, U.S.A.

"An Englishman never enjoys himself, except for a noble purpose." - A.P.Herbert
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: questions about "le championnat"
Date: 16 Aug 1992 10:46:21 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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> 
>  I heard somewhere that next year there will be a new super-division2
>  in france, which will replace the two 2 divisions existing so far.
>  An thus 18 teams of this actual division will go in third.
It's true that the number of teams for the 1993/94 season will be less than 
today. My memory says that it will be 24 D2 teams, then.
>  does anyone know more on that?
>   who are the new foreigner players this year in the french champ?
I'll make a list in a few weeks, like I did last season.
> 
>                VIVE LE FOOT ET L'OGC NICE COTE D'AZUR
C'est ca, VIVE LE FOOT FRANCAIS

Kent
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From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English News: Fleck joins Chelsea
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:36:16 GMT

Scottish international Robert Fleck has joined Chelsea for #2.1 million after
walking out on Norwich in protest at their refusal to let him leave.
He has signed a five-year contract and will link up with Chelsea's other new
recruits Mick Harford and John Spencer.  His frustration with Norwich led to him
leaving Norfolk on Tuesday intending to stay with friends in London.
"We finally tracked him down in the country and the deal was done by
portable phone while he was sitting in his car," said Chelsea's managing
director Colin Hutchinson.

Norwich defender Paul Blades has joined injury-hit Wolves on a month's loan and
is set to make his debut at Brentford on Saturday.

England's forthcoming friendly against Spain has been fixed for Santander on
September 9. It will be the first time they have played a friendly in Spain
outside Madrid or Barcelona.

Crystal Palace defender Andy Thorn has signed a new contract which will keep
him at the club until 1996. Leyton Orient 'keeper Paul Heald has joined
Palace on a month's loan.

Luton Town have re-appointed former player Wayne Turner as assistant coach.

David James, Liverpool's new #1m keeper will make his Premier League debut at
Nottingham Forest on Sunday after first choice Bruce Grobbelaar opted to play
for Zimbabwe.

GM Vauxhall Conference side Kettering Town have been issued with a winding up
petition for debts totalling more than #50,000.
The Poppies are due in court on September 21 but Chief Executive Mark
English said he was confident the debts would be paid up by then.

North Shields are on the verge of being expelled from the HFS Loans League
after failing to finance a ground share deal with Whitley Bay, which was a
condition of their entry.

	FRIENDLIES

Enfield          1-1 Tottenham
Harrogate Town   1-1 Bradford City
Rhyl             0-4 Bolton
Porthmadog       0-3 Tranmere Rov
From: mazzarel@hilbert.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: What is in a name?
Date: 13 Aug 1992 07:49:17 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hilbert.berkeley.edu

Well, if the sport with the watermelon is american football, then our football
is international football, n'est ce pas?  So how about 

rec.sport.football.international ?  Abbreviate if necessary.

Ariel