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From: kurt@eskimo.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrm 762-6417)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: AGRAN Exclusion -- BROWN Hypocrisy
Summary: Not just Brown
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:12:38 GMT
Organization: Cores 'R Us

In article <1992Apr7.143242.821@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.235952.20554@eskimo.celestial.com>, kurt@eskimo.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrm 762-6417) writes:
>> 
[...]
>> Well, the practices of the 2 major parties vis-a-vis minority
>> parties/candidates are as reprehensible as racism/segregation.
>
>	You did mean minor and not minority, right? :)

Yes.

>> 
>>... 
>> I also saw in this newsgroup a major smear piece on Jerry Brown by the
>> laroochie paper Executive Intelligence Review.  Judging from the way Japan
>> is kicking ass economically, every CEO in the country must read this paper.
>> Larouche himself is in jail, doubtless railroaded by the Powers-That-Be,
>> although one wonders, since he is really indistinguishable from them, what
>> they have against him.
>> 
>	Railroaded?  He was convicted of credit card fraud.  Ask the thousands
>of people who saw a $25/$50 contribution/fee/order turn into $2000/month
>whether or not he was "railroaded".

Well, I admit that he stupidly gave the Feds a handle to nail him.  Biting
one's supporters like that isn't the best way to go.  But couldn't he have
gotten away with it if he hadn't been simultaneously making the Feds
uncomfortable?  He was really an embarrasment.  He could have done one or the
other and still survived.  But not both.

>> I am rapidly becoming convinced that *all* of the presidential candidates
>> are *totally* *fucked*.  They all seem to *want* to be president *so*
>> *badly* that they are gouging each other in the eyes.  What a disgusting
>> spectacle.  A friend of mine says none of these people would make a decent
>> pimple on Adlai Stevenson's ass.
>
>	Tsongas didn't exhibit this type of behaviour.  He was, to put it
>mildly, quite restrained throughout the campaign.

Almost torpid, in fact.  He contributed a couple choice diatribes about
the war on drugs which looked to me like a pretty definite outreach to the
anti-drug crowd, advocating the death penalty for drug dealers.  What's he
trying to do -- improve their gene pool?

>>>	Agran is a tiny little mayor of an insignificant city with a tiny
>>>sliver of support.  
>> 
>> Well, so what??  That is scarcely germane to anything.
>
>	Sure it is.  An average of 117 people run for president.  Shall we put
>them in a hall with 117 microphones and let the loudest be president?

Why not?  It's a real-life situation.  Let's see how they cope.  It could
be the elimination round.  Those who comport themselves creditably would
advance to the next round, while providing spectacle for the masses.

kurt@grogatch.celestial.com (Kurt Cockrum) (elitist pig)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.censorship,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: HOLOCAUST MYTHS
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:52:36 GMT

In article <gc0wiB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP# pfaust@b-cpu.UUCP (Pete Faust) writes:
#
# 
# 
#     As I have been misquoted again, the $50,000.00 Offer
#will be posted again.

************************************************************************
The Honorable Thomas T. Johnson, on October 9, 1981, took judicial
notice as follows:

  "Under Evidence Code Section 452(h), this court does take judicial
  notice of the fact that Jews were gassed to death at the Auschwitz
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Concentration Camp in Poland during the summer of 1944" and "It just simply
  is a fact that falls within the definition of Evidence Code Section 452(h).
  It is not reasonably subject to dispute.  And it is capable of immediate
  and accurate determination by resort to sources of reasonably indisputable
  accuracy.  It is simply a fact."
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
************************************************************************

The IHR lost, and they paid 90,000$ to the person who took them to court.

After that, both sides (the revisionists and the person who cliamed
the 90,000$) suid each other for libel, but both claims were dropped.
This second trial had *nothing* to do with the existence of gas
chambers, which is an undisputable historic fact and was proved in
court.


#Don't continue to lie and call names.  Fulfill one of the
#rerquirements and you will receive the $50,000.00.  This is
#no idle offer.

Ah, are you one stupid Nazi. WHY DON'T YOU PUBLISH THE NAME OF THE PESRON
OR INSTITUTE OFFERING THE REWARD?

 
#Pete Faust
#Institute for Relearning
               Regassing, that is


And the world is still waiting to hear what you meant when writing here that
"Many, many innocent Jews will be crushed". Thank you.

-Danny Keren.
From: NORML California <canorml@igc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 08 Apr 92 01:30 PDT
Subject: Re: Hemp-less history Can someone help 
Nf-ID: #R:891034d.7@ace.acadiau.ca:2036271865:cdp:1296500172:000:1170
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!canorml    Apr  8 01:30:00 1992


  Contrary to popular myth, there appears to be no evidence of any conspiracy
to suppress hemp per se.  The campaign to outlaw marijuana has been extensively
written about - see for example Abel's Marijuana, the First 10,000 Years.
The basic impulse behind the marijuana laws was the same old American moralism
taht brought us alcohol Prohibition.
  The US bears primary responsibility for foisting its cannabis laws on the
rest of the world, through the international Single Convention Treaty on
Narcotics.  

  The lack of interest in hemp has a lot to do with technological neglect in
leading agricultural countries like the U.S.  Considerable research is needed
to make hemp competitive with the host of other synthetic products that have
been developed in recent years.  The notion that cannabis hemp is somehow
uniquely better than any other plant on the planet doesn't really hold up
to serious scrutiny - there are many satisfactory near-substitutes for most
of its uses.  Cannabis should be viewed as another crop like flax, sorghum,
jute, etc. - a potential multi-billion crop with many valuable uses, but
not an irreplaceable essential to planetary survival.

Xref: sparky alt.activism:7722 alt.individualism:2462 talk.politics.misc:18265
From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.individualism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Justice Thomas (was Socialism Security Rides Again)
Date: 15 Apr 1992 00:29:01 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <167C9ED20.KENH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, kenh@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ken Hudson) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr9.141507.1@hamp.hampshire.edu>
|> jyanowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
|>  
|>  
|> The main reason Thomas is attacked is because he was the first nominee
|> to be qualified only in name...Unlike the others, he was not a long time
|> scholar or Judge, and was clearly groomed to be a political conservative
|> appointee to the court...In this sense he comes off as a political
|> lackey, not a first rate Judicial mind...I wonder who is really racist
|> here...If he were white and appointed under the same circumstances he
|> would make an appropriate target:  why do YOU distinguish between the
|> two?  Color of skin, it would appear.
|>  
|> An arch-conservative Black Justice who had been on the bench for years
|> (i.e. earned his stripes) would NOT be ridiculed in this manner...

Earl Warren was an ex-Governor of California, and a former AG of California as
well. Hugo Black was an US Senator when he got on the court. You cannot get closer
to being a political lackey than that!! For God's sake, this guy supposedly led
the charge in the US senate to pack the Supreme Court at FDR's instigation, and
I don't find anybody howling that his politics influenced his rulings. 

-srinivas
From: walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Socialism Security Rides Again
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:04:41 GMT
Reply-To: walsh@starbd.enet.dec.com (Thomas Walsh)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <2718@master.CNA.TEK.COM>, mikeq@saab.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley) writes:
>Xref: e2big.mko.dec.com alt.activism:27136 alt.individualism:11016 talk.politics.misc:119034
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>From: mikeq@saab.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley)
>Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.individualism,talk.politics.misc
>Subject: Re: Socialism Security Rides Again
>Message-ID: <2718@master.CNA.TEK.COM>
>Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 14:31:34 GMT+5:00
>References: <rdippold.702582849@cancun>
>Sender: news@master.CNA.TEK.COM
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>Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.
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>
>In article <rdippold.702582849@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>>
>>If you are an acoholic or a drug
>>addict, Social Security classifies you as "disabled" and will support
>>your drug habit to the tune of $625 dollars a month.
>
> Chicken feed. Compared to what the payout to S&L crooks is costing you.

I thought that "the payout to S&L crooks" was going to reimburse depositors of
failed S&L's.  Is any of this bailout money actually going to bank executives
of failed S&L's?  (If your trying to state that the government shouldn't be in
the business of insuring deposits, thats a different discussion.)

--
___________________________________________________________________________
Thomas Walsh 		walsh@via.enet.dec.com		Nashua, NH

:opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employers
From: arenson@twics.co.jp
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: ON HUMAN RIGHTS PROTESTS IN JAPAN
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:20:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: twics.17551
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan


                           PLEASE NO EMAIL
 
  If you are NOT a member of the newsgroup ALT.DISCRIMINATION
and are interested in helping do something positive for 
minorities in Japan--check out the notes I uploaded from around note (er,
article--sorry) 724 to 730 or so.  There is a petition which can be faxed 
to us or which can be sent to the Japanese Justice and
Foreign Ministries.  This is a long-standing movement of non-
violent resistance to discriminatory laws requiring finger-
printing and carrying a passbook around 24 hours a day.

The law was originally aimed at Koreans at the end of WW II
and was created with the coluusion of the GHQ and those failed
colonialist who wanted to make sure that former colinal subjects
retain their second class status in society.

It has been broadened to target all foreign residents (legally it has
always been so), especxially now that many people are coming from
the third world in order to do the jobs Japanese refuse to do
to earn a living.

The police, enjoying wide powers to arrest and detain suspects without
the kind of due process normal in a democratic society are behind
recent revisions in the law that excuse permanent residents (many but 
not ALL) Koreans but not other foreign residents.  Koreans, who make
up the majority of "foreigners"--I put that in quote since
most were born in Japan but as nationality is not an automatic
from-birth thing, they are considered outsiders--are upset that
the national gov is trying to divide the foriegn community and
call for the total abolition of fingerprinting.  Local governments and
opposition politicians also support an alternative bill that does away
with fingerprinting and carrying the card and sdoes away with the 200,00 yen
fine and year in jail that vio;ation of the law now carries.

In the past, people resisted by refusing to give their prints or
register at all.  Civil disobedience of some sort will likely continue.

Your help is needed and can make a difference.  Japan is hyper sensitive
to froeign opinion and has already been criticized for violating
the International Conventions on Human Rights and its own
Constitution.

Please see the DISCALT/.DISCRIMINATION, check out the notes from 724 and
then
fax us the appeal.  As this system makes up pay for EMAIL received
but not individual notes to topics (er, newsgroups), please do NOT
EMAIL me.  the APPEAL COMMITTEE is alwready several thousand dollars in the
red because we mailed out thousands of petitions (And only have received 250
back).

Thank you.

Feel free to add comments here--or preferably in ALT.DISCRIMINATION
on whether you support the appeal or not, have ported it to other systems, etc.

Please feel free to port, but please keep the appeal notes intact.

Thanks again


                             PLEASE NO EMAIL
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From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.censorship,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: HOLOCAUST MYTHS
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:10:04 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <1992Apr10.202815.7865@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca>, kmcvay@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca
(Ken Mcvay) writes:
> Mr. "Faust" isn't about to post either his real name, or his telephone
> number, or his address. Nor, it goes without saying, will he tell us
> (1) exactly who is posting this "offer" and (2) exactly the procedure
> for claiming the "reward."
> 
> The nazi trash posting under the triad names hasn't the courage to
> respond to such requests with any level of honesty whatsoever - after
> all, if they/he/she/them/it did that, the nature of B-PU as a front
> for anti-semitic, white-supremicist cesspools would be clear, and, in
> Canada, they might find themselves being charged under laws dealing
> with the dissemination of hate literature, for instance.

It is known that people who are either lying or not sure about their
opinions use false names. Need I say more.

Kent Sandvik
using his real name
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.censorship,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
From: GA.JRG@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Subject: Re: Who are the presidential candidates, anyway?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:00:11 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.motss,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties
From: storti@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it ()
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Keywords: Use Intelligence
Organization: C.d.C Politecnico di Milano
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:09:25 GMT

I am really amazed that you americans still think that KKK ideas are "opinions" 
Don't you think that applying first amendment to people that, by definition, do
not apply it, is somewhat ridiculous.

Be serious!! Nazis, and any fascism must be stopped, with violence if necessary
and even when these organizations are supprtd with government's money.
(by the way, do you americans know that CIA and your government financed 
illegal fascist movements throughout Europe during the last 40 years).

Think about that !! and then try to be more lucid when considering KKK and
your gov. 

G.Storti Gajani (milano, italy)
From: cedman@714-725-3177.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Reply-To: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:18:03 GMT

G.Storti Gajani writes
> I am really amazed that you americans still think that KKK
> ideas are "opinions"  Don't you think that applying first
> amendment to people that, by definition, do not apply it,
> is somewhat ridiculous. 

Thank you for once again demonstrating the "liberalism" of the left. My  
only hope is that you never get a government which feels the same way  
about you.

	Carl Edman
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.activism.d,soc.culture.jewish,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,alt.society.civil-liberties
Subject: Re: Help stop the KKK
From: schectr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (ROBB SCHECTER)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 15:15:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr13.160357.19251@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> dweinste@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David Weinstein) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.172706.24483@ucunix.san.uc.edu> schectr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (ROBB SCHECTER) writes:
>#I agree.  Freedom of speech has to do with a group's interaction with
>#   the Federal Government (and states through the due process clause). 
>#   
>#I don't think I have a responsibility to make sure all of the KKK's speeches
>#   marches go on brilliantly...The government (simply a formal representative
>#   of 'all' the people) should have no say.
>#
>#Robb
>
>You don't want to make the KKK's marches a success? That's *exactly* what
>you are doing. 
>
>If no one shows up at the rally, they will get perhaps 15 seconds of air
>time on the local news; by arranging a counter-protest you will do
>nothing but make the Klan look *good*.

   Well, you didn't respond at all to what I *said*, but to answer you; I
plan to do what I can to electronically or logically prevent their proceed-
ings from coming off as planned.  (This is about as specific as I want to
get on a public network...)

    My main basis for action, which I haven't seen directly addressed,
is that there is no meaningful difference between WWII, and the situation
with these groups. They have declared war, already.  They are training NOW,
to kill people like ME.  In this situation, I am not bothered by references
to freedom of speech which are not legally substatiated anyhow.

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robb Shecter      University of Cincinnati     schecter@ucunix.san.uc.edu
From: ublackma@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Cory Blackman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Invisible Disabilities -- Do *You* Care?
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:03:35 GMT

I wanted to get some feelings out.  I am a student here in the U.S. of so
called America.  My parents paid their taxes, I got to goto school.  I did
NOT do well though... I was tops in the testing, bottom in "normal" class 
room environments.  Lots of PAIN during the years to *fit* in.  Test were 
recently developed to decide who was legally learning diabled to such an 
extent that I felt they would be solid enough to represnt my history to 
others concerned, if in indeed they could represent (lable) me.  They did.

Now at 29, in a university, years and years of painful trying to adjust to
"normal" just now being let go....  Problem is, though I am accepting the 
obvious learning differences in myself, learning to make them work in my 
life, other people are NOT, they fail to see or regard those like myself.
This test was long and at times the questions deeply personal.  I felt 
renewed, I felt that the U.S. goverment institutions and laws would support
me, I was NOT very supported.  Though personally stronger, MOST of the U.C
system has no training how to support LD students, not just myself.  The law
suports me, schools do not, they just say they do, disrcrimination could be
worse they point out, but I see the institution's refusal to change but in the
least possible ways.

There lay my start of an "Invisible Discrimination", my point of view is just
one voice, maybe there is others?  To change the Educational Institutions for
LD students is rewarding for all, our needs are the needs of millions that do
not know that they too are being unfairly "pushed" through a system too archaic
to lead to the goals wanted.  People learn differently, have been raised 
differently, we are inherenty different.  I think I could have dropped out any
time in the last 14 years, I did not, others did -- people smart enough to 
make it, but could not *fit*.  Because we can't see it, we can refuse to 
believe it.  But wait till it hits home -- or has it already?  Thousands drop
out, hundreds refuse to send their own children to school, preferring to Home
Teach.  The increasing stigmas and pressure to *fit*, the pain inflicted, I 
have seen enough myself.

I have made a long post -- sorry, I hate to read them myself.  Just put this
one away close to you, you'll want to read it someday soon.  This will affect
you.

Core'
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.censorship,alt.conspiracy,talk.politics.misc
From: National Bozo Monitor
Subject: Re: HOLOCAUST MYTHS
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:09:16 GMT

In article <XL4BJB1w164w@b-cpu.UUCP>
pfaust@b-cpu.UUCP (Pete Faust) writes:
 
>
>
>     Well, Zionist pressure is again stirring.....
>
Pressure? He must not be used to people actually questioning what he says.
Can't you just picture it? Pete lecturing to an audience of mouth-breathers
about the dread Zionist conspiracy, all the while their heads bobbing
up and down, like those little doggies people used to put in their rear
car windows? And Pete drones on and on, about how the Zionists all own the
media, like the Christian Science Monitor, Islam Today, My Weekly Reader,
Highlights for Children...
 
>     Side remark:  Holocausters continue quoting from books
>and other material...
>
Boy, talk about unfair!
 
>Pete Faust
>Institute for Relearning
>
Doesn't that "Institute" name give you all kinds of ideas? "Okay, Pete,
we'll just repeat that one more time.." Sort of like the old joke about
the kind of employee so dumb you have to retrain them after the weekend.
Given the amount of stright repetition we hear from Pete and his band of
bozos, that may not be far from the truth.
 
            --mje
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Too bad he didn't have a gun!
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:30:07 GMT

mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen) writes:

>Pretty funny scene today concerning some dip stick who wanted
>to smash the ex prez's stupid statue he got from the reporters
>union or something.  The guy was able to get into the talk, pass
>the secret service dupes, get up on stage, grab the trophy and 
>smash it then come up into the face of Reagan, push him, and 
>even got in a line or two up at the mike before the Secret (because
>they where asleep) Service got to him.. HA HA HA I lauphed all
>afternoon.  The guy could have blown the ex prez's head all over the
>reporters for an exclusive interview with his brains.  

>Well, the anti-nuke guy just set back his cause 10 years,

Even funnier, later he said that he was against violence...  Except,
apparently in a Worthy Cause.  Presumably he'd find no problem with
nuking a nuclear weapons facility, I guess.
-- 
Satan hasn't a single salaried helper; the Opposition employs a million.
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