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From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael E. Dupree)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best Marching Band
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:16:33 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Originator: zmed0b@zircon


In article <Bw3DxE.DLv@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham) writes:
>
> 
> As far as your attempted slam on marching bands goes, you must not have heard a
> great marching band before. 

That is possible.  I also have never heard a rhino sing "O Canada".  And in
both instances, I probably never will.

> That's the first thing that you need.  Second, is the arrangement.  If the >arrangement doesn't fit the marching band or simply isn't a very good one then >it can sound bad.

That's the truth.  I was forced to witness the OU marching band perform their
rendition of "I've Got Friends In Low Places".  Needless to say, I decided to find
another low place which serves beer and spares it`s patrons from such horrible
things.

>On the other hand, with the right band (with the right instrumentation) and the >right arrangement, just about anything can sound awesome. 
> 
I seriously doubt that.  Case in point: "Achy Breaky Heart".  No amount of 
arrangement or musicianship could make this awful song any better.  Additional
instrumentation might help (such as large howitzers or claymore mines aimed at
the performers and subsequently fired).  But again, I doubt it.
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings and Predictio
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:13:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 92Oct7165308@soda.berkeley.edu, dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.071957.15189@newstand.syr.edu> demarsee@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darryl E. Marsee) writes:
> 
>      1. MICHIGAN       (937)
>      2. KANSAS         (899)
>      3. WASHINGTON     (896)
>      4. CALIFORNIA     (885)
>      5. NEBRASKA       (859)
> 
> Two questions, Darryl:
> 
> 1) What drugs are you on?
> 
> 2) Where can I get some?
> 
> David Paschich

Oh,  like YOU have never had a bug in your computer program ?


Hmmm,  that make 2 of us.   :-)







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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: todd@hector.uucp (24102-todd)
Subject: Re: Penn State QB situation
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:06:36 GMT

In article <92281.194640MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> mark rieker <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>         There is absolutely no way Kerry Collins will play this week
>      unless a small nuclear device is detonated over the Lions locker
>      room.  John Sacca will definitely start, true frosh Wally Richardson
>      will back him up, and (God forbid) they both go out, Joepa may put
>      in Chip LaBarca before Collins.  By the way anybody know what happened
>      to Matt "Say, nice bench we got here" Nardolillo?
>
>
>      Go Lions!!!!!        Crush the 'Canes!!!!
>-------
>========================================================================
Matt Nardolillo was back-up to John Sacca last weekend at
the Rutgers game.  He seems destined to do mop-up duty.
Craig Fayak, the kicker, is a back-up quarterback, and
would likely be considered also.  I didn't realize that
Chip LaBarca was also a back-up.  Are you sure you don't
mean Craig Fayak?  Carolyn Todd
From: fath1@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:48:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct6.174846.8232@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>>
>>Save this marching band stuff for another bboard please!!!!!!!!!
>
>In principle I agree with you, but what other board do you suggest people
>talk about marching bands.  The college football board unfortunately the
>most related thing to marching bands.  So when you blow off steam like
>that, please give helpful suggestions...
>-- 
>
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

Funny you should say that,  

AHEM,
All you marching band fans, within the next week we will have a Call for Votes
in  "news.groups"  to create two NEW groups to discuss marching bands and
drumcorps.  They are being called:

rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
rec.arts.marching. misc  (and will include hs and college bands as well as
			  colorguards, dance lines, etc.)

If you would like a place to discuss bands, please send me email and I'll
tell you when and where you can vote,  or just subscribe to news.groups and
look for the CFV:  rec.arts.marching.******
We need over 150 people to vote to get these groups created so your
participation is greatly appreciated!!!

Thank you for your attention. We return you to your regularly scheduled
programing.


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From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Lies, D**n Lies, etc (Re: PSU is Overrated!)
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:18:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: lgc.1992Oct14.211833.5989
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas

In article <1992Oct14.202859.3014@morrow.stanford.edu> COWAN@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Paul L. Cowan) writes:
>In <31rt032JabdO00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> ronnie@uts.amdahl.com writes:
>
>:  In article <1992Oct13.165322.18324@morrow.stanford.edu> COWAN@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Paul L. Cowan) writes:
>:  >In <92287.074450KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>:  >:  
>:  >:    Penn State is one of the top programs in the country who consistently win
>:  >:  over top 10 teams, right!!!!  WRONG!!!  A.P. reports that in the "Joe Paterno
>:  >:  Era", PSU is 10-41 against teams that ended the season in the Top 10.  Now
>:  >
>
>This post drew a big reaction, so let me take a few minutes out of my lunch
>hour to be precise on the point I was addressing.
>
>The oringinal post by KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu had as a subject line "PSU is
>Overrated". His evidence for this is based on the isolated *statistic* from the
>AP that JoePa's teams are 10-41 against teams that *finished* the season in the
>top 10. Now keep in mind that the question is whether "PSU is overrated" 
>not whether it is the best team this year or the best team of all time or
>has been the best program on the average. I interpreted the phrase to mean 
>that "PSU is overrated each year in contrast to my [KRB104's] beloved Maryland
>Terrepins". Since PSU is typically rated around number 7 in pre-season polls
>(which are the most subjective) and go up or down from there, I am only
>addressing whether this is roughly fair.
>
>

  <Lots of stuff deleted>

God forbid I come to the defense of Penn State, but a 10-41 record vs.
teams that FINISHED in the top 10 is quite respectable.  Just to illustrate,
here are some all-time winning percentages of several major powers vs. 
teams that FINISHED in the top 20:

Notre Dame  86-90- 9    .489
USC         70-81-10    .466
Oklahoma    64-74- 4    .465
Alabama     69-81- 6    .462
Penn State  55-70- 5    .442
Michigan    58-85- 2    .407
Ohio State  48-80-12    .386
Nebraska    44-94- 3    .323
Miami       40-92- 2    .308

This is from 1936 through either 1990 or 1991, I'm not sure.  It should be
noted that NO ONE has a winning record vs. teams that finished in the top 20
(which shouldn't really be that surprising if you think about it).

(My only beef is with Penn State playing Cincinnatti, Temple, and the like
every year.  I think there is more to a schedule than just playing X number
of bowl teams.  If the rest of the schedule is Little Sisters of the Poor,
then the schedule is weakened somewhat in my eyes.)



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin)
Subject: Re: This Week's Predictions...
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: world,local
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:14:14 CDT

In article <1992Oct8.234026.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:
>Here are my predictions for this week...
>
>		Air Force	31	Navy		 7
>		Akron		23	Kent State	 7
>		Alabama		35	Tulane		10
>		Arizona State	31	Pacific		 9
>		Ball State	20	Eastern Mich.	14
>		Baylor		27	T.C.U.		17
>		Bowling Green	28	Ohio U.		13
>		BYU		24	Fresno State	21
>		Central Mich.	17	Miami, OH	10
>		Colorado State	23	Texas El-Paso	21
>		Duke		24	East Carolina	21
>		Florida		23	LSU		13
>		Florida State	30	North Carolina	14
>		Georgia		35	Georgia South.	 6
>		Georgia Tech	26	Maryland	23
>		Indiana		21	Northwestern	10
>		Iowa		21	Wisconsin	17
>		Kansas		24	Kansas State	20
>		Memphis State	23	Cincinati	14
>		Michigan	41	Michigan State	10
>		Mississippi St.	24	Auburn		22
>		Nebraska	40	Oklahoma State	14
>		New Mexico St.	22	Nevada-Las V.	20
>		NCST		24	Texas Tech	22
>		Notre Dame	33	Pittsburgh	12
>		Ohio State	24	Illinois	13
>		Oklahoma	23	Texas		17
>		Penn State	24	Miami, FL	17
>		Purdue		27	Minnesota	22
>		Rice		27	SMU		21
>		San Jose State	34	Fullerton State	 7
>		S. Mississippi	24	Northern Ill.	17
>		Syracuse	23	Rutgers		17
>		Tennessee	40	Arkansas	13
>		Tulsa		28	SW Missouri	17
>		UCLA		27	Stanford	26
>		USC		26	Oregon		17
>		Utah		20	Hawaii		17
>		Vanderbilt	28	Wake Forest	10
>		Virginia	28	Clemson		17
>		Virginia Tech	23	Louisville	10
>		Washington	31	California	17
>		Washington St.	28	Oregon State	14
>		Wyoming		25	New Mexico	20
>
>Ali...
>-- 
>Desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu
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What is your method for coming up with your weekly predictions?  I applaud 
you for having very accurate predictions, especially compared to some of 
the other computer rankings and predictions on the net.  Except for just 2 or
3 games, I agree with all of your predictions.  One prediction in particular
I disagree with is Penn State - Miami.  Miami will win.  What is your record?
It must be pretty good!

Regards,

Ken

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:32:23 EDT
From: John Johnson <JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!
 <1992Oct10.231835.23782@leland.Stanford.EDU>
 <1992Oct11.013903.14858@walter.bellcore.com> <44830@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>

First, allow me to comment on what I'm about to say: Blech, yuck, etc...!

In article <44830@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, s243ap@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Dean
Roberts) says:
>
>EXAMPLE #3: Penn State misses two field goals in their three point loss
>to Miami.
>
>In all these instances, the opposing team lost the game, rather than
>Miami winning.  Miami is a great team, but they do not deserve to be
>#1 until Washington loses, or if they beat Oregon State by less than
>seven points.
>
>********************************************************************
>Dean Roberts
>
>The Canes only blow each other!

The canes didn't make a mistake against Penn State.  If that's not a champion-
ship team, I don't know what is.

Yuck.  I think I'm gonna puke.

                                            -John
From: wessir@stein.u.washington.edu (Bill the CAT)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: #1 team in the land
Summary: who is really the best team
Keywords: canes, huskies, washington, alabama, michigan, miami, colorado...
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:18:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct12.231836.5336
Followup-To: Miami cannot be denied
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Being a washington husky, I can say that my team is not as good as last year.
I can also say that Miami is not the team they were last year.  I don't see
too many games so I don't know how the other teams around the country are 
playing.  Last year I could say the Huskies were absolutely the best team in
the country without even seeing other teams play (besides the ones that played
the huskies).  This year I'm not convinced.  Miami is not better, but how about
some other teams.  There may be some others out there that have played better
than the lame pollsters say....  Lets hear about it.  Who is kicking ass this
year????
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Virginia WINS
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:40:29 -0500
 <1992Oct9.075224.19670@wam.umd.edu> <1992Oct10.030855.9760@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Distribution: world
Organization: Vitro Corporation

In article <1992Oct10.030855.9760@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen) writes:
>There you go again, Mary whining about our pathetic schedule.  Hey I agree
>with you, hell if we only didn't have to play Maryland, then we could play
>a REAL team.  I thought you'd stop whining when your team won their first
>game, but I guess we have to put up with your jealousy some more.  All I can
>say is; "Gee, when was the last time Maryland was #10? Hmmmmmmmmm...."
>Toolaloo for now, you Twerp.
>
>

I wasn't going to respond to this bozo, but after this weekend's performance by
UVA...at least Maryland only blew a 19 point lead against WVU! And every time
UVA makes it to the top 10, it's time for a choke.

Before you start defending your schedule as not being too soft, you'd better
win the few tough games on there, especially at HOME. I think Welsh has done a
great job at UVA and the program is certainly better than it used to be.
However, I don't believe the Cavs are quite over the hump yet. They seem to
have the same problem Maryland had under Claiborne/Ross-can win a lot of games,
but always blow the big ones.

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Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 08:30:01 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
 <00961BC5.7E1040A0@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU><1992Oct7.183013.5733@news2.cis.umn.edu> <JOHNDOE92Oct7.195744@squid.inmet>
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In article <JOHNDOE92Oct7.195744@squid.inmet>, johndoe@squid.inmet (johndoe) writes:
.....Good observations deleted......
>kan-kan st (until recently, often a battle of near winless schools)

Which made winning that game that much more important.  Nowadays, 
winning this game can have possible bowl implications.

As for the Big8.  Neb-OU, KSU-KU, OSU-OU and MU-KU.  CU is making
a trend for rivalry since winning(or tieing) the Big8 title the
last 4yrs.  I'm not sure there are any other rivals in conference
(in football).Out of conf: ISU-Iowa, OU-Texas, MU-Ill, OSU-Tulsa,
CU-ColoSt.

Granted that most of these aren't of national importance, but as one
poster put it...to the fans, their rivalry is the biggest.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jcho@nmsu.EDU (CHO)
Subject: Re: ACC Review
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:18:58 GMT

In article <00961A32.A284D660@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU> mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes:

    I still can't believe that I wasted a beautiful Saturday afternoon
    to attend this game. The Tarheels were just plain pathetic, the
    crowd was pathetic(I've heard more applause at a Mozart concerto)
    and Navy was pathetic until the fourth quarter. The most exciting
    moment in this game was when Navy finally scored, their small block of fans
    went crazy , easily drowning out the sleeping home crowd and the cadets 
    did their traditional pushups. The Heels scored when they needed too but 
    otherwise had there minds elsewhere. FSU will be down when they play UNC 
    next week so they will only win by 38-14 rather than the 48-14 I would have 
    expected had they beat Miami.


Hardly...I'd rather be a bit worried.  FSU figures that if it can't win
the MNC...no one in the ACC can. I actually am gonna feel sorry
for the ACC...losing to Miami was the last thing any ACC team wants
FSU to do...its a vengance thing.

							JCHO@nmsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:31:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.152529.15176@news2.cis.umn.edu>, milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC)) writes:

|> Tenn-Alabama:
|>   Bear Bryant's autobiography is named 'the Third Saturday in October'. 

  Bryant's autobiography is named 'Bear'.  There is another book by that title
which is about the obvious; they may be adding another chapter after this year. 
Bryant did play against UT with  broken leg.  He would schedule a weak opponent
before the UT game and practice for 2 weeks; he could not beat General Neyland.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Bowl Coalition fails yet again
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:09:53 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

wt124177@wvnvms.wvnet.edu wrote:
}
}With the win over Penn State last week, Miami (at least to me)
}is in good position to finish undefeated during the regular season.
}And with the prominent games for Washington at home....giving them
}a very essential edge...one thing is clear.....
}
}The bowl coalition fails yet again.....

I'm curious as to how the bowl coalition can "fail yet again" during
its first season of existence.  In order to do anything again, you
have to have done it at least once before (e.g. "Rutgers loses to
Syracuse *again*." but not "Rutgers beats Pitt *again*".), and the phrase 
"yet again" tends to imply something which has been done not only once 
before, but many times (e.g. "Nebraska loses to a ranked team *yet again*.") 

}Just some thoughts.....and one certainty: there will not be a head-
}to-head national championship game this year, and the coalition will
}fail yet again.......

It's clearly too early to tell if there will be a #1 vs. #2 matchup
in the bowls, but if there isn't it will very likely not be the
fault of the bowl coalition.  The most likely scenarios for avoiding
the matchup would be the fault of the PAC-10 and Big Ten's refusal
to participate in the bowl alliance.  (But who can blame the PAC-10
for wanting to continue to pound the Big Ten champ rather than face
the best available competition? ;-> )

-- 
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   "Close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades."
                                 "And computer rating systems."
From: landay+@CS.CMU.EDU (James A Landay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac10 is the best conference so far
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:55:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

In article <71435@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
|> landay+@cs.cmu.edu (James A Landay) wrote:
|> }Tonight on ESPN, Chris Fowler claimed that the SEC was the MOST overrated
|> }conference this season (though he did say they were normally very tough,
|> }but having an off year.)  
|> 
|> So far it seems like a bit of an off year, and then adding in South Carolina
|> and Arkansas brings the average down a good bit as well.  However I 
|> wouldn't say that at this point the league is overrated since it
|> is not rated that highly to begin with.  The SEC has 4 teams in the
|> top 25 which certainly belong there (Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia,
|> and Mississippi State) and one which is questionable (Florida).
|> Hardly particularly overrated at this point in the season.
|> 
|> }In addition, he said that the SEC played only one top 25 team in something 
|> }like 25 out of conference games. He compared this to the conference mentioned
|> }in the subject line and said they played ~10 teams out of conference in the 
|> }top 25 and had a winning record against them.... Is this really true?
|> 
|> Keep in mind that the SEC typically spreads the out-of-conference games
|> out through the whole season.  However, the games outside the league
|> are for the most part really weak this year.
|> 
|> BTW, by my count the PAC-10 is 3-4 against the current Top 25, including
|> 1-1 against #25 Kansas.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

ESPN showed the Pac-10 as 5-3 against the Top 25, so maybe they are using
rankings as of when the game was played (which I agree is not as interesting.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu (David Mathias)
Subject: Re: 1AA Poll Thoughts and Questions
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:17:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.174005.2664@mlb.semi.harris.com> dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Dwayne Barrington) writes:
>As a 1AA follower, I am a little amazed by the
>current 1AA poll.  Something just doesn't seem
>right.  Some teams lose and only drop one slot, 
>while other teams beat higher ranked teams and
>still remain at a lower ranking than the team they
>beat.  For instance...
>
>Samford (previously 17th) crushed Eastern Kentucky 
>(previously 3rd) last Saturday and now Samford is
>ranked 13, while Eastern Kentucky is 11th. 
>
>Also, teams like SW Texas State and SW Missouri State
>lose games and remain in the poll.  SW Missouri State
>is currently 3-3 and ranked #17.
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>Dewayne ( go Knights ) Barrington


I agree, something doesn't seem quite right.  I don't think that
any time a teram beats a higher ranked team that they should
automatically be ranked above them but Samford beat E. Kentucky
badly (42 - 14, I think).  I thought E. Kentucky should have fallen
more than they did.  The really amazing thing is that when
Florida A&M lost to Miami(FL) they dropped from 13 to 20 in the poll.
SW Missouri lost to a mediocre, at best, Tulsa team and dropped only
one spot.  Even more amazing is SW Texas who lost to a mediocre I-AA
team (SF Austin) and is still in the poll.

Having said all that though, I still believe that overall the committee
does a pretty good job with the poll.  It's not perfect but it's not
all that bad either.

I hope, in the name of consistency, that if #2 Villanova beats 
#12 Delaware this weekend that the pollsters don't suddenly
change their ways (I also hope that Villanova doesn't win).

-- 

David Mathias    Washington University in St Louis    dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu