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From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: First "Full-backal" nudity on TV? (was Re: GOING TO EXTREMES)
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:14:32 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <Bu2Jz4.422@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, comjudi@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Judi Geistlinger) writes:
> marvin@skinner.dsg.ti.com (Marvin Heffler) writes:

> No, there was definitely a series on the Holocaust, perhaps even more than
> 10 years ago. I remember that Meryl Streep was in it. I believe the title was
> Holocaust. War and Rememberance was, of course, about the same topic.

I don't remember the exact mini-series, but I remember another scene
of people begin machine-gunned at an open pit that featured at
least close-up full-backal, and a long-shot of full-frontal.

There was a broadcast of "Something Wild" on one of the Turner networks
where you got a full-backal and half-frontal of Melanie Griffith 
in her motel scene with Jeff Daniels.  
 

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Not an Intel spokesman 			- Bill the Cat 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
From: rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin)
Subject: Re: Same commercial too many times (was  Re: Marython)
Organization: School of Statistics, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:26:05 GMT

|> >It would be much more endurable if Nick would have a little
|> >more variety among its advertisers.  Although all of them
|> >have gotten annoying after being repeated every 45 minutes,
|> >two have me climbing the walls.
|> >
|> >1.  Mrs. Lange, who waxes nostalgic about little Michael eating
|> >    his first chocolate riesen immediately -- get a life! 
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >
|> >2.  The jerk in the Encyclopedia Brittanica ad -- is he supposed
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >    to be a role model for academically-minded youth?  Sheesh!
|> 
|> I think this one is shown on FOX and the big 3 networks:
|> 
|> The GAP's "What Fits"  by Max Flag - "Sky fits heaven so..."
       ^^^                   ^^^^^^^^
|> (lots of shots of a woman compared to a motorcycle)
|> 
|> I liked it the first 5 times I saw it, could tolerate it the next
|> 14 times, but now I can't stand the commercial.  Anyone else?

Liking doesn't matter.

What matters is that you remember the product.  In the latter case, you
not only remembered the product, but the human name associated with the
commercial.

The role of any commercial or marketing program is to get you to remember
the name.  Even negative views of the product are good for the company.
You'll see it, recognize it and probably end up buying it even if the
commercial _really_ annoyed you.

Proof of the theory?  In all the above cases, you mentioned the name of
the product.  It worked.

-- 
Robert J. Granvin                                       School of Statistics
rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu                             University of Minnesota
From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Annoying Broadcasting Practices
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:29:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


There was a particularly annoying example of this wretchedness here in
St. Louis last night, on KTVI, Channel 2 (ABC affiliate).

ABC *finally* decided to broadcast "America's Totally Unsolved Lifestyles",
a comedy specialwhich had been scheduled  to air when the LA riots happened,
and which had the misfortune to have included a comedy LA riot as part of the 
program. They re-edited and added new footage to change the end (and it was
noticeable!).

Unfortunately, there were storms and severe weather moving through St. Louis
last night. KTVI had their weatherman give a few-minute special report 
after Entertainment Tonight, at 6:58 PM or so. Then they aired all the
commercials which would have normally come between that program and the
network stuff which was to follow. Then they said they'd be joining thethe
network program "in progress"!!!!! So we were first abused and insulted by
having the beginning of that program wiped out not by justifiable 
emergency weather info, but by commercials!!!!!!!

Then, all during the program, the lower left-hand corner of the image was
obliterated by a map display of the counties where the severe weather warnings
were in effect. Disgusting but I suppose justifiable. But what was NOT
tolerable was that the display vanished DURING ALL COMMERCIALS!!! As soon
as the program broke for a commercial, the weather-warning would disappear.
It would come back a few seconds after the program resumed.

If this was important enough to damage the program display, it was also
important enough to be shown during and superimposed on commercials.
If it wasn't important enough to show over commercials, then it wasn't 
important enough to overlay the program. The scum can't have it both ways!

Also, in addition to the map in the lower left, periodically, the "beep
beep beep" would override the audio, and a blue bar would cover the
entire bottom of the image, and a crawl of the weather-warning notice
would come across that. Again, only during program, but never
during commercials.

I can't see any technical reason for them not being able to superimpose
the weather warning during the entire broadcast, no matter what signal 
was being fed to the transmitter. If it is necessary, then do it 100%
of the time. If it isn't necessary during commercials, then it isn't 
necessary anytime.

In this particular program, the map superimposition destroyed a number
of the scenes. For example, there was a parody called "Busts and Boners"
about fumbled arrests. The point was that there was a lady announcer with
a large chest and a tight sweater doing all the "Busts" part. She was 
just about totally obscured by the weather-warning map and it destroyed
the joke. (Yeah, it was feeble, but it had a right to be aired as 
designed...)
-- 
Will Martin
wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil OR wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
From: cmcg@fmd01.larc.nasa.gov (Catherine McGinley)
Subject: Re: QL - where is it
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA, USA
Distribution: rec.arts.tv
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:59:54 GMT


I have been waiting for the episode which
I think is called Song of the Soul, you know the one where
Sam becomes a "Supreme".  The last QL that I saw 
ended with that as the next leap, but then QL
vanished from my tv schedule.  Does anyone know
when and if this ep will be repeated ?  I checked
next weeks tv guide and it lists the '91 season 
opener for next week.  Help! I really need to get this one on tape.


Oh, and about those Emmy's.  What a joke. 
There is no legitimate way that they could have 
not given that award to Scott Bakula.  I think it will
be a long time before I will ever sit through one of those
ceremonies again.

--
 Cathy
From: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: LAW&ORDER
Date: 11 Sep 1992 05:13:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: heretix.east.sun.com

DOES ANYONE LIKE THIS SHOW?? I NEVER HEAR IT TALKED ABOUT ON THIS NET.

HOW COME? THIS SHOW IS GREAT!!

JOHN ONEIL-------------------;^) BIG HAIR DUDE

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.movies
From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus)
Subject: Re: speaking of bruce lee...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:51:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.012024.24123@newshost.unh.edu> tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb) writes:
>In article <BuAoFt.EFp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus) writes:
>>In article <BuAGy9.AtI@cs.dal.ca> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
>>>how did bruce lee die?
>>>and when?
>>
>>He had a violent allergic reaction to some kind of headache
>>medicine.  Happened just before the U.S. release of Enter the Dragon, as he
>>was filming The Game of Death (early '70s?).
>
>  I think it was September of 1973 or something like that. His death was
>kind of a strange thing-- I don't think I've read two reports of the cause
>of his death that said exactly the same thing. I've heard it was because
>of 'acute cerebral edema' (sp?), or a swelling of the head. Apparently traces
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the term I was looking for.  The edema was caused by the allergic 
reaction.  Never heard another version of it, but I remember seeing a movie
about his life that had a similar explanation of his death.  This was in the
late '70s-early '80s on a local TV station.

>of marijuana were found in his system during the autopsy as well, but I
>find that somewhat difficult to believe.

Ya never know...but I doubt it, too.

The Walrus


Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
From: dtgordon@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: Young Indy - Part II (* Spoilers *)
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:31:41 GMT





	More on the YIJC episode in Ireland - Spoilers Ahead


















Sorry no ^L





	The episode centers around the 1916 rising in Ireland. All 
the famous faces of the time are in the episode (as well as Indy :-). 
All that was shot in the college was of Indy walking around and talking 
to two ladies, whose names I haven't found out yet. As well as being 
filmed in the college here, there is going to be some of this episodes 
shot outside the General Post Office, a scene of much of the most dramatic 
moments during the rising. 

	Sean Flanery said it wouldn't be screening (in the US) until
sometime in January, but from what I've seen of it, it should be well 
worth waiting for. He also said that everyone on the crew were trying 
to make this episode as realistic as possible.

							-- Damian
 --
 * When he shall die, take him and cut him into little stars, and he will  *
 * make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with *
 * night, and pay no worship to the garish sun.  ** Romeo & Juliet **      *
 * Gene Roddenberry (1921-1991)                                            *

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
From: robt@is.morgan.com (Rob Torop)
Subject: Re: Flintstones theme song
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:54:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.130446.26078@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:

   Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
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   From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
   Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
   Organization: University of Western Ontario
   Distribution: na
   Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:04:46 GMT
   References: <ROBT.92Sep4081934@idt101.is.morgan.com>
   Sender: news@julian.uwo.ca (USENET News System)
   Nntp-Posting-Host: cupoftea.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
   Lines: 24

   In article <ROBT.92Sep4081934@idt101.is.morgan.com> robt@is.morgan.com (Rob  
   Torop) writes:
   >In article <90800003@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com> sandya@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com (Sandy A)  
   writes:
   > >     [ theme song omitted ]
   > >    How about the Wilma 'n' Betty waitress song?
   > > 
    [ waitress song deleted]
   > >    Can't remember the rest...anyone else wasting valuable brain
   > >    cells remembering this song?
   >And how about Hoagy Charmichael's immortal "Yabba Dabba Dabba Dabba
   >Doo"?  
   i am ashamed that no one has mentioned:

   So let the sun shine in,
   Face it with a grin,
   ..

Isn't that from "The Pebbles and Bam Bam Show", an unworthy :-)
successor to The Flinstones?  

--
-- Rob Torop

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From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: NEXP on rec.arts.tv
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:15:12 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <9209111456.AA02666@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, APUCORLE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU writes:
> 
> So, how many Northern Exposure fans are left on rec.arts.tv?
> 
> Hopefully, there are enough of us who can't get alt groups
> that we can carry on a small discussion during the upcoming
> season.
> 
> Let me know you're there!
> 

I am here!!! Have a good story to tell about my daughter's and son-in-law's
two day visit to Roslyn.  Will post it later....no time.  I check each day
for NEXP postings.  


Fran Adams
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: Tv series-Martin
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:56:38 GMT

<REGHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

>For all those who seen the new tv series Martin.  What do you think about it?
>Do you think it will last for a couple of seasons or do you think they will
>put it on cable like they do with a lot of the black shows that do not make it?
>In my opinion I think the show is alright, but I like him better has a stand-up
>comedian or in the movies.

Agreed!  I think it has potential though.  But it seems to lack a little 
something - it's a little superficial now.  Perhaps it will develop itself as it
goes, after all, that is what A different World did!
		Mystic

(alex.soto@analog.com)
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: LAW&ORDER
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:48:40 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR) writes:

>DOES ANYONE LIKE THIS SHOW?? I NEVER HEAR IT TALKED ABOUT ON THIS NET.
>HOW COME? THIS SHOW IS GREAT!!

    That button by your left pinky is the caps lock key, please make
sure it is not in the lockes position before you post, readin all caps
is quite annoying. 
    To answer your question, there are a number of us who discuss L&O,
if on an infrequent basis, quite a lot. It is arguably the best show on
television. But since it is currently in rerun there isn't a whole lot
to talk about. Try waiting until the season opener which should be in a
couple of weeks.


--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
	    "Egads! These look like a women's fingerprints"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
From: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Annoying Broadcasting Practices
Date: 9 Sep 1992 15:57:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eah4@po.CWRU.Edu (Elizabeth A. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu () says:

>
>   Do other  people find  the following  broadcasting practices  of  television
>stations (and cable) annoying during  programs & movies,   or  am I one of  the
>few? :
>	   Not showing  all of  the  closing credits  (including  producer/
>	distributor logos - sometimes  the closing credit's song  continues
>	during these!).
>
>	   Voice-overs during the closing credits (and beyond - see above).
>
>	   Station ID Logos during the program.
>
>	   Putting the  closing  credits  into  a  window  so  someone  can
>	announce on screen  about the  upcoming newscast (which  is also  a
>	voice-over).
>

WKYC-Channel 3 (NBC) in Cleveland, Ohio is notorious for doing all of the
above.  They will run all the end credits but there is always this 
really annoying voice reminding us that the news is coming up next and 
proceeds to tell us the top stories, or what the next show is.

And I don't even want to talk about logos.  Our CBS station has come up
with this wonderful way of telling us weather warnings.  Now, I don't
midn a little "w" in the corner, but they've started putting up a map
of the counties that are affected by the bad weather.  When all of
northeast Ohio is being hit by a killer storm, you lose the entire
right hand corner of the picture.  When I called to complain, they
said it was easier than having a runner go along the bottom of the
screen at periodic intervals.  Idiots, all of them.




-- 
             Beth Hlabse    eah4@po.CWRU.Edu     Assistant Sysop
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From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: 'Middle Ages'
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:27:12 GMT

> In the show "Middle Ages," I have a question about the actor who plays the 
> 60 year old ex-salesman who now drives a taxi.  Who is he and where have I 
> seen him before (atleast I know I've heard his voice)?
> 

I was watching a rerun of Homefront last night and was wondering if
the coach telling Jeff to stay away from hisGinger was the guy from
Middle Ages.


Gayle 'feelin' old' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
From: mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Around the World in 80 Days II ?
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:03:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep8.101408.10671@waikato.ac.nz> rgty_mrw@waikato.ac.nz (Mark Willcock) writes:
>Hi, 
>
>I have heard there is to be a "sequel" to the excellent 'Around the World in 80
>Days' with Micheal Palin.  In fact I am sure they were filming it ealy this year
>Does anyone have any info ?

I saw it mentioned on some talk show. He is going from "Pole to Pole"
this time. From the North Pole thru Europe and Africa to the South Pole.


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From: sterling@ceco.ceco.com (Jennifer T. Sterling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: NEXP alt group
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:01:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.

First, let me apologize to whoever it was that I sent the flame to.  Please
forgive me, I am a little new at this network stuff.  Anyway, the basic
theme of my post was that being an employee of a fairly large corporation,
I just can't go up to the system administrator and tell them that I would 
like to be able to read news about NEXP when I am supposed to be doing real
work (We don't have access to alt groups here).  It doesn't work that way,     and I suspect that I am not the only one with this problem.  Anyway, I vote for the creation of a rec.arts.tv.nexp group since I would like to still have access
for discussion of my FAVORITE television show.

Jennifer Sterling :^)
Xref: sparky rec.arts.tv:17661 rec.games.trivia:3134
From: hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: Clown on David Letterman
Date: 11 Sep 1992 12:52:05 -0500
Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: uakari.primate.wisc.edu


	The clown was named FLUNKY.  Thanks to all who provided answers.

Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Batman Cartoon
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:44:25 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <7SEP199214461917@mary.fordham.edu> areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
}What a beautifully crafted cartoon!  Nice animation (no, I'm not an expert)
}it just looks so stylish, and dark, that I love it.

It looks fairly nice. They're making effective use of the limited animation
technique by making it look like the old superhero cartoons of the 40s.
Especially when you see the car driving, it's a completely still picture for
all practical purposes.. you see a little shimmer on the wheels.

It's kind of a pity when the old Warner Bros. cartoons and even Scooby Doo
does more animation than the new stuff.
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From: oakes@rtsg.mot.com (Ronald Oakes)
Subject: Re:  Character actor - Who is and one other thing
Keywords: the One Other Thing
Reply-To: oakes@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:18:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.160321.12875@uwm.edu>, simon@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David Joseph Simon) writes:
|> Hi all
|> . . .
|> Also, i have another request for information, but this is unusual.
|> My cable-television company brings in WWOR-TV out of New York city
|> Could someone out there also tell me what exactly WWOR - EMI service is?
|> It is very strange.  You watch the end of one show, the voice over says stay tuned for, lets say "HUNTER" then all of a sudden you get a show that isnt what the voice over said.  EVery once in a while, you will see the show start, then the screen goes bla|> ck, then you see this other show.  
|> Usually they are older shows, like Ironside, Switch, Kojak, etc.
|> If anyone has any info, please also email me direct.
|> Thanks
|> David Simon
|> simon@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

WWOR-EMI service is what is run when the programing on WWOR locally cannot be
shown on cable systems due to the "Syndex" rule.  Appearently when they start
airing a show that they do not have cable broadcast rights to, they run the 
other shows.  However, for some -- probably internal -- reason they program
these shows seperatly as "WWOR-EMI Service."  What your are experienceing when
you get the black screen, is someone being too slow to cut the satalite feed
over to the alternate programming.

{I'll avoid my complaints about syndex today}

Ronald B. Oakes
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:16:02 EDT
From: <JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: The Avenger

Apparently, he was lost in the jungles of South America (or was it Africa?).
Don't worry, they'll tell about him in Mrs Peel's last episode "The Forget-Me-
Knot".  Cheers,
        Jean
From: lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Paper Chase Question
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:45:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Sep13.214517.15729
Organization: Western Washington University


How can we answer your question via email without an email address?
At least none came through on my system.

Rob
lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu