HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Iverson Notation (was: The War Between Us (Long))
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:12:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Aug14.031239.1794
Organization: Raccoon-Silkies have more fun !

In article <1992Aug13.130429.7374@sci.kun.nl>, rhialto@cs.kun.nl (Olaf Seibert) writes:
> In article <5709@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> dente@els.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:
>>Colin
>>Who has never had sex on a computer :-(
>>Come to think of it, is that really such a sad thing?...
> 
> Try having sex _through_ a computer. Via irc channel #gblf, for example.
> Can be quite interesting, too...

 One shall remain quiet as to what one may do on certain MUCKs..

-- Porsupah, who would never even think of such a thing. Really.

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From: orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Keywords: *DeFlower* ME will you...
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:40:58 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Skritching

In article <BtFJ27.6us@blkhole.resun.com> sara@blkhole.resun.com (Sara Hopkins (Swamp Thing)) writes:
|orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) writes:
|>  david parsons \/ "That's three trips where trainspotting lost big."
|Hey come on, you saw at least, oh, three trains ...

    I don't know if "There's One!" from a car at speed on an adjacent
highway counts....
                 __
   david parsons \/ orc@pell.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: coming out
From: cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe Salzgeber)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:33:47 GMT
Organization: Cow Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA

yal@lingua.cltr.uq.OZ.AU (Yvette Lian) said...
>I came out to my dad yesterday... by telling him I'm the new GLoC secretary
>(Gays and Lesbians on Campus).  This I did via email, because I was a tad
>nervous about telling him face-to-face (yes, I know that's chicken and
>taking the easy way out and all, but still).  

Yikes!  i can't believe that some people come out by mail - what patience 
you must have!  i would drive myself crazy waiting for a response - even if
the response was expected to be bad, at least i would know.  (product of
my generation i suppose - wanting instant feedback :^) )  I don't even like 
coming out over the phone, because i would want to see the person's face.

>[about his mellow reaction]
>This was a very surprising reaction, considering my dad is what I would
>call quite conservative.  After a few hours talking, what I realised is
>this:  He doesn't care, because he loves me.  In fact, his only real
>concern was that I not be arrested in any student demonstrations!  
>He also said a lot of stuff about me being brave/courageous for coming out
>to him and being on the GLoC executive... (personally, I don't think it was
>all that courageous, but still)

Wow, sounds like a pretty perceptive dad.  cool.
And yes, every step in coming out is courageous compared to those who
don't come out.  So besides feeling happy, you can feel brave :^)

-Coe
-- 
cjohnson@nyx.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: steve@acorn.co.uk (Steve daffy Hunt)
Subject: test message
X-Mailer: Sendmail/Ream v4.12c (The Choice of a New Generation)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:26:09 +0000


From: steve@acorn.co.uk (Steve "daffy" Hunt)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Test - please ignore
Organization: Acorn Computers Limited, Cambridge, UK

Test of soc.bi@demon.co.uk
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Some button badge slogans/designs
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:26:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug19.212632.13075
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <71367@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>T-shirts that have two check boxes, one says Boy Crazy, the other says Girl
>Crazy. I've never seen one where both boxes were checked, but that could
>easily be arranged...
>
>--
>Stef                 Where am I going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?
>stef@apple.com     

My lesbian, (but sympathetic) partner bought one of them for my
birthday last week, and colored in the other box herself - now the
boy crazy box has a blue check, and the girl crazy box is checked in
pink.

She also found a Nobody Knows I'm a Bisexual t-shirt (which I'd never seen
before)  which I wore to work the next day (fuck-em if they can't take
a joke) 

Sandy
"I don't have to choose, nyaah, nyaaah, nah nyaah nyaah."
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tam@mobydick.base.bellcore.com (Tom Merkel )
Subject: Re: Identity (was Re: The War Between Us)
Reply-To: tam@mobydick.base.bellcore.com (Tom Merkel )
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:41:38 GMT


One of the uses of labels and identity is to have a way to
predict the behavior and attitudes of others, and to make 
ourselves predictable and known to others.  This is useful,
it gives all of us a starting place for social and political
relationships.  Pushed too far,  by fear or oppression or 
loneliness it leads to stereotyping and rigid behavior.

Am I a het identified bi?  Well, does that label predict
my behavior better than other labels?  Parent, spouse,
boyfriend, cyclist, sissy, these and other labels, some
contradictory,  go into the stew of my identity.  None
of them tell you who I will be tomorrow.  I sometimes even
surprise myself.

--Tom
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: alan@osf.org (Alan Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Hetero/bi/homophobia (Was: Lesbian denial)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
	<1992Jul25.010224.21811@dsg.cs.tcd.ie>
	<1992Jul27.162224.6331@HQ.Ileaf.COM>
	<1992Jul27.213429.14628@dsg.cs.tcd.ie>
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:15:43

> So, how about the term "heterophobia"? This would seem to suggest an
> _irrational_ dislike/fear of heterosexual people. And that's where my
> problem with this term lies. Often a GLB person's dislike/fear of
> heterosexual people has a firm basis rather than being irrational. As
> such, I think it does not make sense to refer to it as a phobia.

On the contrary, heterophobia has the complementary meaning of
homophobia and is very sensible.  It means expecting that heterosexual
people fit one's heterosexual stereotype, and acting toward all new
heterosexual people as if they were homophobic and untrustworthy.  It
may be true that the percentage of heterosexuals who are homophobic is
greater than the percentage of homosexuals who are heterophobic,
though I suspect they are about the same.  However, treating one
individual on the basis of your experience of other individuals just
because they happen to belong to a group which is not defined by the
characteristic in question (homophobia) is irrational behavior.  Not
difficult to understand or sympathize with, but irrational.

-Alan
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Iseult, Tanaquai and crutches (was: That bloody War )
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:27:50 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <iw.713632206@tosser>, iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) writes:
> tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
> 
>>Dunno what to make of this, except to defy your femmey role & say "You're
>>the Boss" |-) & me? Provide floor show entertainment? What a shocking thought:
>>you'll ruin my carefully cultivated aura of innocence....
> 
> Innocent????   I will have to check with Sara and Ellen as to whether or
> not that is a word that can be used in conjunction with you.  Somehow
> I doubt it.
> 

I don't think anyone has ever claimed Tanaqui was innocent, but she does have
a carefully cultivated aura of innocence (perhaps the smile, dimples and
overall impression of sweetness has something to do with it :-)

///Peter
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Subject: Re: semi-serious question
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:59:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug6.142935.6145@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake) writes:                       ^^^^^^^^^ 

ohmigosh!  queers in new hampshire!  the local 
population may run screaming into the streets...
(ssshhhhhh...)

(sorry, couldn't resist... i'm just thinking of 
my parents... <giggle>)

>Ok, is there a difference between being bi, and being willing to have sex
>with people of both sexes?

not so you'd notice.  ;)

peg

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sara@blkhole.resun.com (Sara Hopkins (Swamp Thing))
Subject: Re: Plural porridge? (was: The War Between Us (Long))
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 09:47:12 GMT
Reply-To: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk
Organization: News Addicts

idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:

>pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler) writes:

>>jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark) writes:

>>> +Is that "less" or "fewer"?  Somehow, I think you meant the latter.  :)

>>Wonderful. I was taught to try out "less" or "fewer" by testing the phrase
>>against the noun "soup" or "porridge": you can have less soup, but you
>>certainly can't have fewer soup, although you might try fewer soups.

>This is what happens when you get back to work (and the Net) after a weekend
>of having your cerebral commissures dilated by SuperTabbyGingerPusscatMan...

Who?  Do please introduce us; unless this is the very same Man who
dilates my own commissures (when he's available >{8-(), in which case
I know him well ...

>For some incredible reason, Peter, I seem to remember discovering somewhere
>that in Scotland, at least a century or two back, "porridge" *was* plural.

Or, porridge *were* plural ...

>Don't ask me why; don't ask for references; just that slow niggling doubt -
>perhaps it's a phantom memory, like one, which troubled me for years, that
>I'd woken up listening to a BBC natural history radio program and learned
>that wombats have square anal sphincters, and, thus, droppings of a square
>cross-section.  I half-believed, half-doubted it for years; after all, it

You really must introduce me to your SuperTabbyGingerPusscatMan, Kay,
he seems to be rather better than mine ...

>But I digress; perhaps "porridge" is/was plural, and thus there could
>be "fewer porridge".  Care to check? it's either a rara avis or a wild
>goose...

Neither; of course porridge are in fact porridgis pluralis leftfootica,
who (like their cousins the haggis, or haggisa leftfootica), roam the
Scottish mountains.  These mountains are of such a steepness that the
porridge have evolved with their left legs longer than their right,
thus enabling them to walk around the mountains in a clockwise
direction, grazing as they go.  Not to be confused with their near
relations, the porage (poragis pluralis rightfootica), whose right
feet are longer than their left and who raom the mountains in an
anti-clockwise (or widdershins) direction.

>Crossposted to alt.usage.english, for obvious reasons.

Crossposting removed in this followup, for obvious reasons.

Sara (the Thing from the Swamp) (who, aghast, has realised that her
previous postings from this account have not had a Reply-to: field set
to one of her proper addresses; please don't reply to this address,
folks!  I've put a proper Edinburgh address in the Reply-to: field in
this one and will try to put it in all further postings tonight (my
last night at this address and in California) but can make no
guarantees as it's late and getting later)
From: nigel@isgtec.com (Nigel Burnett)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Posting articles.. & demuffin self
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:49:43 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <2A8A2983@dsparks> dsparks@acorn.co.uk (David Sparks) writes:
> 
> chance I'm going to de-muffin myself.  I'm  22, married with daughter,
> and have only recently realised that I'm bi, as is my wife.  It's been quite
> a confusing time - as I always thought of myself as a mono-het but I seem to


Well drat - another one just like me on the wrong side of the flipping
ocean.  Aren't there any more of us in Toronto?  Many welcomes.  The
preceeding message was with tongue firmly in cheek (whose you may
wonder?) - keep wondering.

e-hugs and e-flirts

Nigel

--
"It is an infantile superstition of the human spirit that virginity would be
thought a virtue and not the barrier that separates ignorance from knowledge"                                                                       Voltaire
Nigel Burnett:  business: 3030 Orlando Dr., Mississauga, Ont.,  416-672-2100
Send e-mail to nigel@isgtec.com, uunet.ca!isgtec!nigel, or nigel@isgtec.UUCP
From: chris@unicorn.resun.com (Chris Von Hendy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Veggies! (was Re: bi surfers)
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:23:15 GMT
Reply-To: chris@unicorn.resun.com
Organization: Metalogic, S.a r.l.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3


In article <2989@isgtec.isgtec.com> (soc.bi), nigel@isgtec.com (Nigel Burnett) writes:
> In article <1992Aug7.012723.8119@vax.oxford.ac.uk> cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> > 
> > I believe the priestesses of Isis used smooth pebbles the way the diaphragm
> > is used today, as a barrier against conception.
> 
> I believe that the stones work like an IUD rather than like a diaphragm.  The
> story I heard was that the idea originated with people who put stones in
> their camels' uteruses so that the camels would not become pregnant on long
> cross-desert trips.
> 

Um, how would you get the stone back out if you later wanted pregnancy?
Not to mention how you get it in, in the first place?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Von Hendy            "If we shadows have offended,
Escondido, California       Think but this, and all is mended,
ncr-sd!blkhole!chris  or    That you have but slumbered here,
chris@unicorn.resun.com     While these visions did appear." Puck
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From: Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: Prediction of the Republican National Convention
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:55:57 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Aug17.001659.14197@plts.uucp>  
  <1992Aug17.152323.21202@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
  <1992Aug18.033834.1387@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>

First I feel that most of your predictions are unfortunately, just fantasy.
What will more probably happened is the RNC will go without a hitch, then
the Republican attack ads will start in earnest. (Probably by Bush loyalist 
who are a safe distance from the party so he can condemn the ads at the same
time reaping thier benefits)

Then it will come down to the question that every American will have to ask
themself. Would you rather have your taxes raised or lose some more of your 
civil liberties. Great fucking choice. once again.

Ben Gibson
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan)
Subject: Re: Bisexuality article in _Time_
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 03:17:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.062928.2533@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>
>I was actually rather pleased by the coverage.

I thought it was all right, but the following lines really annoyed me
(as they probably did to Tim and Ciaran, as well):

	Bisexuals often claim to be more sensitive and empathic
	lovers.  "There is some truth in that," says psychologist 
	William Wedin, director of New york City's Bisexual
	Information and Counseling Service.  "Part of being bisexual
	means that you see things from more than one perspective.
	You can't be comfortable in stereotypical ways of thinking and
	reacting."

Self-aggrandizing.

--John
-- 
John Flanagan                          ||
johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu           ||"No need to overheat your rhetoric,
U. of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astro.|| Exaggerating items in your pride..."
2505 Correa Rd., Honolulu, HI 96822    ||        -- Mephistopheles, _Faust_
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
From: pdragon@world.std.com (pencil dragon)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Call for submissions
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:50:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.Bt838C.F6q
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

Pencildragon here,

Gee, can I submit?  Under today's politically correct terminology,
I'm a "Male Disadvantaged Bisexual" and not a white hetboy :-) :-)


-- 
from pencildragon at
Darkstar Graphics
P.O.Box 369
Weymouth,MA   02188
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: hot bi babes
From: pclary@radish.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 20:53:17 GMT
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

jet@ki.com (Jeanette Bradley) wrote...
> In the vein of this whole hot bi babes thing...
>This weekend I went camping, and I met a man from NYC. he
>asked me if I's ever been to New York and I replied "I
>went there in June for Pride Day".
>He looked a little uncvomfortable and shuffled his feet
>and said "Oh, are you, er,... *into* *that* ?"

Oh very much so!

>I replied, "Well, I don't know about being into it, 
>but I am bisexual."
>he said "Bisexual, huh? want to come by my tent later?"
>(all this without looking at my face, and then a little
>giggle at the end, as if to imply that he's just joking,
>so I shouldn't be offended.

I've been storing up several things to say if/when that
happens.  So far I think one of the best responses is:
"No. <brief pause> Why?"

To be quite honest, if I think i'm going to get that reaction
I tell 'em I'm gay.  (Unless of course they've spotted some
bi related thing I'm wearing.)  Usually they need more exposure
to queers of whatever sort.

Other possible responses to the 'Oh you're bi - can I have sex with you?'
come ons:

"Only if I get to watch you have sex with a man first."
"You know I've always had this fantasy of two men together...."
"Only if I get to top you" (they won't get this... At first. Hehe)
(Might have to rephrase it as:)
"Only if you're the receptive partner."
(But I really wanna say:)
"Only if I get to fuck you."  (But they probably wouldn't get that either.)

Attitude helps.
Never forget that {bi|homo}phobia is their problem, not yours.

Ellen
"No one can make you feel inferior with out your consent."
                                                       Eleanor Roosevelt

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Subject: Re: Joke
Reply-To: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 08:54:19 GMT


In a previous article, orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons) says:
>
>In article <foo> ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis) writes:
>|For the benefit of us Bloody Ignorant Yanks (tm), what exactly is an
>|off license?  Is it like a package store?
>
>   A place where you can buy alcohol for carryout.  It's not exclusively
>a UK thing. . . .
>
>   Now, "package store", that's a new one....

It's a (gratuitous) New Englandism.  A package store is a (usually scruffy)
place where you can get alcohol and junk food for carryout, and frequently
groceries.  In Pennsylvania (home of the People's Glorious Revolutionary
State Liquor Stores), there is a similar concept known as the ``beer
distributor''-- they sell just beer, frequently soda (a.k.a. ``pop''), and
maybe junk food.

-- PTD --
-- 
Palmer T. Davis      ___
<ptd2@po.cwru.edu>   \X/   cthread.  cthread_fork().  Fork, thread, fork!
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From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: Homoerotic bible quotes?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:20:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Aug13.202031.2203
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Aug5.222051.7010@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>====cut here====
>
>Recruitment now underway.
>Application forms available Thursday 8pm.
>
>====cut here====

bisexual myths in action!  i *like* it!

>====cut here====
>
>"Can Heterosexuality be Cured?"
>--- Talk by leading expert
>Thursay 8pm.
>
>====cut here====

this reminds me!  i saw one of the funniest papebacks
at a local alternative/feminist/lesbian bookstore!  
it was titled _heterosexuality: what causes it_ or 
something very similar.  i read the intro and first 
2 chapters there, but had no $$$.  :(  i was chortling
rather noticably, much to the amusement of my so and 
a friendly dyke who had apparently already read it.  

the charts alone, on all the possible "causes" of 
heterosexuality (wonderful reversals!) are worth noting.
and chapter 2, on what it takes for a normal man to 
pass as a heterosexual -- <giggle> -- read it.  

peg
-smiling at the memory and looking a bit foolish at usite...
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@usite-next.uchicago.edu (David Parsons)
Subject: Re: The War Between Us (Long)
Organization: Ministry of Skritching
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:41:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.162313.28044@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
|David Parsons, who looks fetching first thing in the morning, writes:
|>My sexual and emotional ties with men are easily as strong as they are with
|>women, it's just that I ogle less of them.
|Is that "less" or "fewer"?  Somehow, I think you meant the latter.  :)

   Okay, you can add "bad grammar" to my *long* list of faults.
                 __
   david parsons \/ "Did I mention that I'm a habitual liar?"
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Grant's party... and demuffining self
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:23:46 GMT

cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe L Johnson) writes:
>SHARON@POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU ("Sharon Snyder, Summer Ice Queen") 
>                                                    ^^^ ^^^^^
>"Ice Queen"?... yeah, right!

"Sometimes, in bed, it enters my head, to tell you that my love is strong
 But I don't say a word when I notice how hard you work to turn a cold man on"

_Ice King_: Momus.  'nuff said ?

>>It's a Coe! Yay! *snuggle* *cuddle* 
>>*tumble*  <sigh>
>  ^^^^^^
>Oh, dear, i do believe we have ended up on the floor again... *snuggle*...
>what shall we do to amuse ourselves down here? :^) 

Can I watch & find out?

Tanaqui, voyeuse extraordinaire
From: iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Grant's party... and demuffining self
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:12:38 GMT

johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan) writes:

>May I sign up for the list?  I wasn't at the party, but I would have
>been, had Grant remembered the VCR.

But Doll, he did remember the VCR and he had a couple of tapes to
show us.  I feel like I know you already.  

Sorry you wern`t there in person.

Iseult - just stirring again.
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Lt. Yar nearly naked on Showtime
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:01:47 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Aug16.054715.11486@HQ.Ileaf.COM> mhk@HQ.Ileaf.COM
(Mark Kaepplein x1517) writes:

>Did anyone catch Denise Crosby on Showtime last Tuesday(?)

>Doesn't anyone else have even a little crush on her?

Yes.

Gwendolin.

(PS. My group of friends gave her the nick name "raging hormones")
Newsgroups: soc.bi