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From: lsjumb@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stanford Band)
Subject: Re: Band Announcers
Organization: Stanford Band
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:54:51 GMT

In article <big number> danmcd@cs.arizona.edu (Daniel L. McDonald) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.174331.601@leland.Stanford.EDU> cybe@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rajesh Krishnan) writes:

>>Are there any other band announcers out there?  I'm one of the
>>Stanford Band announcers...

>Well, at Michigan, we haven't had a student announcer since 1969.  This is
>because that last student announcer we had was so good, we decided to keep
>him announcing.  His name is Carl Grapentine.

Actually, that's EXACTLY what we had at Stanford for a while.  Hal
Mickelson (I'm SURE I'm misspellinggg ittt) was a student announcer,
and just kept the job for 15 years, finally retiring about 6 years
ago.  Hal could come up with stuff on the spot, was very inspiring
(he'd do improv tirades for the Band after field rehearsals, talking
about the other "infidel school" etc).  Apparently very entertaining
(this is all before my time).  He would improve some dismal shows
apparently (for example, one show was so bad he did the all the
announcements and jokes in Yiddish).  He still is involved in Band, helping
with our fledgling alumni organization, and comes back to deliver his
"History of the Axe" speech at the Big Lam...Game bonfire every year.
We've had students ever since he retired.

Scott Stan4d
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From: jat6h@Virginia.EDU ("Mars, the Bringer of War")
Subject: Re: School Songs
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:28:30 GMT

We down in Vuhginyuh don't really have a "fight song" or alma
mater specifically, we just have the Cav Song, which from what
I can tell is a holdover from the days long ago when UVa
actually had a MARCHING band, and The Good Old Song, which is
just a rewritten version of Auld Lang Syne a la Virginia.  The
students and alums sing it after every score, and who actually
wrote the arrangement we play has been lost in the depths of
time, a lot of people just sort of improvise, as the xerox of a
xerox of a...of the original staff paper it was written on is
in such poor shape as to be virtually unreadable.
justin tate
TAWVaFCI/OP(?)MPB&CSR,U!!!
From: swain@aludra.usc.edu (Ronnie Swain)
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Subject: Re: Two Questions
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:17:18 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Hey, I for one do not mind when you bash our band.  Our job is to support
our team and play the best show that the band is capable of, and not to win
a popularity contest with other Pac-10 schools, or even other colleges.  So
take your best shot, but it will not change the fact that we are The Greatest
Marching Band in the History of the Universe - TM!

Ronnie Swain
swain@scf.usc.edu
Trojans Rule!

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From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger)
Subject: Re: Credit for band?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:37:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
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In article <1992Dec18.003311@IASTATE.EDU> knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites) writes:
>I was just wondering what kind of credit you guys get for beibg in your marching
>bands.  At Iowa State we practice an hour and a half each weekday and about an
>hour on gamedays for one credit and no grade!  I know some bands get more
>credit, and some get a grade to go into their GPA.  What's the scoop?
>
>FINALS ARE DONE!!!!!
>Andy Combites
>ISUCF"V"MB Trombone

At Michigan:
Standard rehersal 1.5 hours a weekday plus 2 on a game day.  Percussion and
flage sections went an extra hour every day, with some sections adding an
hour here or there.

Band was two credits (although engineers lost credit after I think the
third year).  Whether or not it counted towards your GPA depended on your
major.  I switched majors mid-stream, so for one year it did not count
towards GPA, while for three years it did.


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From: jmoulton@mothra.syr.EDU (Ana Ng)
Subject: Re: Penn State Band?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 20:09:32 EST

In article <1992Dec11.061655.20708@leland.Stanford.EDU> yourmom@storm.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>Hi all!
>
>Since we're going to be meeting up with Penn State in the Blockbuster
>Bowl in January, I thought I'd write and see if there is anyone out
>there from the Penn St. Blue Band.  I'm just wondering what kinds of
>stuff to expect...:-)
>
>Later,
>Adam Elman
>LSJUMB Bonz Roolz
>aelman@cs.stanford.edu
>
Well, I'm not at Penn State, but Syracuse did take a trip down there
freshman year, before they left the Big East.
What to expect from the band? Well, I thought they were real nice and put
on a damn good show. There was only one bad thing about the trip: Joe Paterno.
What a putz. He wouldn't let either band march on the field at halftime 
because 'we'd tear up his grass'.
So when you see Penn State, Adam, tell 'em all hi from the Pride of the Orange,
and tell ol' Joe Paterno that he *still* gets the 'I'd rather smoke my grass 
then let you march on it.' award from the SUMB. :)
Have a good trip. I'll be in sunny Arizona, myself. 

-Jen
Pychotic Piccolo and Flower of Hell
jmoulton@mailbox.syr.edu
From: tchnd-au@garnet.berkeley.edu (Yuval Oren)
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Subject: Re: >>> NEW SUBJECT <<<
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:19:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Every winter, members of the Cal Band hit the slopes. Yes, we actually
play while skiing: We play a gig in the morning, a gig in the
afternoon, and at high noon we ski down a bunny slope in a wedge
formation while playing "BIG C." This is quite challenging when some
of the band just learned to ski that morning. 

Last year was especially challenging, when each trumpet froze in a
different valve fingering!

Yuval



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From: Liza_Weissler@rand.ORG (Liza Weissler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley Band)
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:46:53 GMT
Organization: The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, California

> I have a vignette about the U$C band and their behavior:
> Some of us from the UCLA Band slept out at the Rose Parade New Years
> Day, 1980.  We went to cheer for the Ohio State Band at the Parade.
> When U$C's band marched by, we waved dollar bills at them (U$C is the
> private school in town, where tuition is expensive).  The U$C band
> broke ranks to grab our money!  Art Bartner managed to shoo them back
> into line.  Even we, accustomed to U$C's boorishness, were shocked!

Hey, I was there...!  But most of the band members grabbing at money
were broke, having paid our tuition for the spring. 
Most of us gave back the money we grabbed.   ;-)

More seriously, stories like this amuse me to no end.
I have the pleasure of working with a UCLA band alum (tuba player,
late 70's/early 80's) and it fascinates me to hear the UCLA slant on all my 
old 'SC band stories.  Frequently the two versions of the same
event don't even come close; more often than not, the truth is probably
somewhere in the middle.

Except for the cases where bodily injury and theft occurred :-) I hope
most people realize that basically we were just having fun (albeit juvenile
fun).  You populate a college band with 17-21 year olds and you're
aren't going to have a group with the best judgment.  If we had good
judgment, after all, would we have put up with Art Bartner?  I think
not.  ;-)

How about we all turn our energy to flaming the television networks
for not showing halftimes on television?


        ---  __o          Liza Weissler
     ----  _`\<,_         The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, CA
      --- (*)/ (*)        liza@rand.org
From: jstripli@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Jeff R. Stripling)
Subject: Re: School Songs
Organization: Fort Worth Research and Development Center, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:16:12 GMT

In article <jgladu-181292073447@128.249.27.63> jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu)) writes:
>
>I hope other people from the SWC will add to this - I'd like to hear how
>the SWC members came up with these famous school songs: 
>
> "I've Been Workin' on the Railroad"

A blatent reference to the "Eyes of Texas", UT's school song, so I'll
reply:

Around the turn of the century, the University of Texas had a president
who always encouraged his students with the words "Always remember that
the eyes of Texas are upon you".  Meaning that the state of Texas was
depending on its young to get an education and better the state as a
whole.

Well, one student decided to write a song based on this saying and
imitate the president of the University at a campus talent show.  He picked
a familiar tune "I've been workin' on the railroad" and changed the
words to "The Eyes of Texas are Upon You".  His whole skit was intended to
be a one-time joke.

The song was a hit and eventually became the school song.  The song was
played at the funeral of the university president; after that date it
was played as a serious, somber tune instead of with the original
playful intent.

I can't remember the name of the UT president or the author of the song.
Anybody out there know?

A side note: The song was copyrighted by an Aggie alum and he held the rights
of the song until around 1988-1989, when it was turned over to the UT
Longhorn Band.  I remember that his name started with a "G", because we
honored this guy at a UT pregame.  We spelled out TEXAS with a small
G cenered under the Texas.  My friends that weren't in band kept asking
me "What does TEXAS G mean?"

>bcnu - grungy (John Gladu)
>Systems Support Center -- Baylor College of Medicine
                           ^^^^^^
                           How 'bout that Baylor invention:
                           "When the saints come marchin' in"
From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: School Songs
Followup-To: rec.arts.marching.misc
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:41:29 GMT
Organization: Systems Support Center, BCM
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In article <1992Dec17.223424.9923@nntpserver.chevron.com>,
hbawl@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (Wilber L. Baker) wrote:
>   [.. lots of stuff about A&M's school song history..deleted.. ]
> 
>    Texas A&M :
> 
>    Aggie_War_Hymn     (it's not a 'fight song', it's a WAR HYMN)
>           Original & copyrighted     (does borrow one strain from
>                                       some old 'folk' song )
>           I believe written by a former student during WW II .

A great deal of the first strain of the Aggie_War_Hymn (after the
fanfare/intro) "bears" a *striking* resemblance to the theme from the old
Hanna-Barbera cartoon "Yogi Bear".  Is this the "old 'folk' song" to which
you refer? :*)

I hope other people from the SWC will add to this - I'd like to hear how
the SWC members came up with these famous school songs: "I've Been Workin'
on the Railroad", "She'll Be Comin' 'Round the Mountain" and "In the Gool
Old Summertime".

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu)
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From: mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("seilF eht fo droL, bubezleeB")
Subject: Re: Band Traditions
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:27:23 GMT

yourmom@storm.Stanford.EDU  writes:
> tonyamm@carson.u.washington.edu (Tonya May) writes:
> : In article <1g8iluINN5aq@agate.berkeley.edu> timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro) writes:
> : 
> : >Cal trumpeters get together on some night of Big Game Week,
> : >caravan down to Palo Alto, and entertain the dormies and greater 
> : >Stanford community with a lovely morning concert (say 1:00-2:00 a.m.) 
> : >of Cal fight songs.
> : 
> :   They did it here too for some of our dorms on Halloween night.  They
> : were all decked out in wierd costumes (sort of like Stanford, I heard)
> : and played so poorly people thought it was WSU out there. 
> 
> Gee, thanks.  Two things: 1) We always dress like that for rallies.
> 2) Sorry you weren't impressed, but we did get quite a lot of
> appreciation from other people.  As to why we sounded poor -- hey, it
> was late, it was cold.  We've certainly sounded better.  But it was
> fun anyway. :-)
> 
> : 
> : >Needless to say, the concert is well appreciated by our listeners
> : >and they often return the favor by giving us "gifts" such as
> : >fruit and rocks.  :-)
> : 
> :   I doubt that you were given candy by those UW students in the dorms
> : on Halloween either.
> 
> As a matter of fact, surprisingly enough, most of the people we saw
> LIKED us.  We certainly didn't get any negative impressions from
> anyone.  In fact, we had a couple of Husky Band people follow us
> around for the entire rally.
> 
> I did hear later that there were actually some complaints filed
> because people thought we were the _Husky_ band out too late.  So
> there. :-)
> 
> =======================================================================
> Adam Elman				o o	
> aelman@cs.stanford.edu			 |
> P.O. Box 12002 Stanford, CA 94309	\_/
> =======================================================================
> 
	At Virginia a big annual event is the Chug-a-thon,
where everybody takes a shot of beer a minute.  The last person
to throw up wins.  You really ought to try it some time.  The
record is somewhere in the 230s.  

Singing ribald songs is mandatory here, of course:
i.e.
	All the lady apes ran from King Kong
	For his dong was unspeakably long
	but a friendly giraffe
	quaffed his yard and a half
	and ectsatically burst into song...


			Love 'n' Enemas,
				Mick Stone
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From: kab33254@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hard Harry )
Subject: Re: Marching Bands
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:21:34 GMT
Keywords: Marching

dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly) writes:

>And I don't want to start a flame war, just because they get tiresome, but
>I will say that I like ISU's band better than some others which I won't
>mention *cough*WISCONSIN*cough*
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yep, how in the hell can you stand to play with a 
band that simply blares as loud as possible yet
sounds like crap?  I saw them in october and just
couldn't believe their sound.  It bordered on
painful.  But, their crowd seems to enjoy it!?
It was amazing the way our pregame got booed there,
though.  We played with a little taste and style
yet they didn't seem to like it...kinda strange.

Kevin Butler - MI SAXES
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From: mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("Ramalama from Alabama")
Subject: S and M man
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:25:45 GMT

	When last we met the Stanford Band in the French
Quarter, y'all were singing a song called the S & M man.  The
 people with you, Michael Fuchs and James
Breen, couldn't remember the lyrics you used, so we've made up
our own and still sing it to this day.  What are the original lines?


	Love and wet willeys,
	
		Mick "Writing on a crappy keyboard" Stone
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Reading music off of flip folders....
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:06:53 GMT

bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F) writes:

>In article <1992Dec12.092227.1604@tessi.com> allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:

>I can respect the fact that the straps, gloves, marching style, etc. make
>you a more integrated part of the band, but from a practical standpoint,
>doesn't it bug you even a little bit? I mean, no matter how you slice it,
>a percussion instrument is going to look a little different and affect 
>the way you march. Do you really think that having the snares and tenors
>in a line together with drums on carriers, etc. hinders the look of the
>band? Isn't doing everything possible to create good music a priority, too?
>I'm not trying to flame you, just trying to get a better understanding of
>where you're coming from...


The Ohio State style is descended from the military style where the band is
a unit and each member is simply a member of the entire unit.  The percussion
instrument does look a little different, of course, but in all honesty, it
really did not affect the way I marched since I got very used to playing it
and moving anywhere I needed to go.  We all practiced very long and very hard
on making the drums seem as if they were an extension of the body.  This is not
a joke when I state this.  We just merely wanted to be as fluid as possible, 
yet still cut in crisp, staccato roles and excellent rudiment strokes.  We were
always holding our own extra practices to insure that we were as one unit in
terms of just the percussion section.

Concerning creating good music, we had a percussion director who was the head
of the percussion department at Ohio State's school of music and he was constantly
working with us to make us better.  I remember one tryout one year where the guy
was just incredible when it came to marching with a drum, but musically, he 
was a little above average.  When it came down to cuts, he didn't even come close
to making it because his playing just wasn't there.  I even remember sweating like
crazy during my playing tryout portion because I had to do 6 different rudiments
as part of the tryout and of course had NO idea which 6 I would be doing prior to
the tryout.

If you ever get the chance to see the OSU band in person on the field, I think
you'd realize that what I say here is true.  I believe it now when, on the first
day of tryouts, the OSU staff tells everyone that during the football season, the
band comes first and anyone who can't make that sacrifice should reconsider whether
they want to try out.  Oh yeah . . . even though there was a tremendously high 
importance to the band, the majority of the band members all had GPA's above 3.3.
I just remember my autumn years in the band to be very, very busy and I rarely had
time for socializing (except on Bowl trips!  =)  )

allen
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From: jwest@d-day.nas.nasa.gov (John T. West)
Subject: band buildings
Organization: NAS Branch, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:24:39
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec11.180158.29489@leland.Stanford.EDU> elmanad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
   As another thread-starter -- what kinds of housing does your _Band_
   have, as far as instrument storage, administration, rehearsal space,
   etc.?  We have the lovely (condemned) Stanford Band Shak, a former
   steam plant and ROTC headquarters.  Our rehearsal space has probably
   the worst acoustics in marching band history, but at least we can do
   whatever we want to the building. :-)  The Shak also has the only
   urinal/beer tap and toilet/punch bowl I know of, not to mention an
   entirely black bathroom (complete with black-lights) and the best
   collection of borrowed street signs from around the world I've ever
   seen. :-)

I marched 7 years at Mississippi State (yes, I marched through grad
school).  Our band hovered just over 300 all 7 years (including color
guard).  However, the band still has its offices (2) and rehearsal room
in an old university garage which was converted to the band hall quite
a few years back.  Well, said band hall will not hold enough chairs to
seat everyone during the pre-school workshop introductory meeting, and
will barely hold enough chairs for all the horn players to be seated
while rehearsing on rainy days (after the workshop, we *never* meet
inside unless it's raining).

We certainly don't have any personnel housing for this outfit, and if
I'm not mistaken, (i may be) the NCAA ruled about 2 years ago that
such things as "athletic dorms" wherein only an elite group is housed
are against the NCAA rules.  I would infer from this that band housing
owned by the university would also be a no-no.  

-jw

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From: Liza_Weissler@rand.ORG (Liza Weissler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Arrogance vs. niceness
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:02:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The RAND Corporation, Santa Monica, California

The thread about the USC band was pretty amusing.

I'm an old USC band member (1977-1981).  Not to sound completely old-timerish,
but...we always had pretty intense rivalries with other bands (esp.
UCLA, Berkeley, and Stanford), but at least when the band members met
"off the field" most of us would be nice to each other.  (I won't dispute
that there's always an element that wasn't nice; there are too many
examples to the contrary.  :-)

FWIW, my vote for nicest band goes to Notre Dame.  They always treated
us really well when we would go back to South Bend every other year.
I hope that hasn't changed.


        ---  __o          Liza Weissler
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From: mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("")
Subject: Re: band buildings
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:16:01 GMT

	We practice in the
student activities building, which is on grounds, not our own,
and plays are performed in it periodically.  We can and have
gotten in trouble for doing what we want in it.  Right now
we're on double secret probation for drinking -at our own
practice!  This happened the year before I even got here. But
they're pretty slack at confiscation at our stadium.  Some
places we've visited must be run by the SS!


	Warm noogies,
			McStone
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From: tlp31807@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (T.I. double G-GER )
Subject:  JEFF BECKHAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:13:12 GMT
Keywords: Marching



			YOU BAND GEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:-)

Theresa 

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