HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: RESULT: the 4th inquiry on gaikokujin group [English+Japanese]
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:44:29 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:

>Hi, I might have done some mistakes here...

>davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>> Ooops, I don't see my name ... wonder what happened to it?

>    Well, I looked over through my mail records, but didn't
>find your message.  Would you please re-send yours?  I think
>I'd better accept more mail from others for a week or so.
>You who haven't sent me your choice, why not send one now?

Strange. I'll send it now.

>> I would have thought the time to decide on how to score the vote was
>> *before* it was taken :-) 

>    Yes, you are right.  But this is only an inquiry, and
>we are going to discuss about how to make use of the result
>now.  I think I'd better withdraw my "suggestion" and
>hear other people's opinion.  I admit it is difficult to decide
>which one to choose from the above result.

Perhaps, but I think this is coming from the ambigous rules you
set for yourself. As it is, you have two conflicting rules so you
got no clear answer. As I say below, you can't have both.

>> If its the one with the least NO's then a) and fj.life.foreigner
>> wins (by 1 pt.). But if that was the deciding factor, why is there
>> any accumulated points? And/or why were people asked to vote YES or
>> NO?  If the deciding factor is the accum. pts. then it's clear that
>> b) and fj.life.in-japan wins (2.25 accum. pts.). 

>    Only that these detailed data will help the discussion.

>> But it seems clear that you can't have both....
>> Whatever you decide is OK with me,

>    No, no.  Please say your opinion.  I am willing to hear.
>How about the others?

I'm going to vote for b) and fj.life.in-japan so it will be a
tie for least NO's :-) To help you out of your dilemma, I'll
ask somebody else on Aegis to vote as well in hopes that it
will break the tie.

Dave

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Dave McLane                                       davidg@aegis.or.jp
You're free to copy/quote/translate this as long as credit is given. 
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: hironobu@sra.co.jp (Hironobu Suzuki)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Tongue-twisters: was Re: NG for gaijin topics. (English)
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:19:30 GMT
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Distribution: fj
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
In-reply-to: jiro@math.keio.ac.jp's message of 21 Jul 92 10:35:34 GMT



In article <JIRO.92Jul21193531@jade.math.keio.ac.jp> jiro@math.keio.ac.jp (TANAKA Jiro) writes:
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Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan
Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba-shi, Japan
Faculty of Sci. and Tech., Keio Univ., Yokohama, Japan.
Fujitsu TEN LTD., Kobe, Japan.
GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan
Information Science Center of Kyushu Inst. of Tech.
Institute of Industrial Science, University of tokyo.
KIT Iizuka, AI Dept, JAPAN.
Kyushu Institute of Tech., Iizuka, JAPAN.
Manufacturing Engineering Research Center, TOSHIBA Corp., Japan
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Personal Media Corp., Tokyo Japan
SOUM Corporation. Tokyo, JAPAN
School of Info. Science, JAIST Hokuriku, Japan
Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
The Inst. of Statistical Mathematics, Tokyo Japan
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From: hatano@cbs.canon.co.jp (Manami Hatano)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Maybe biased, maybe not intended unfair (Re: Unfair Translation)
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:13:48 GMT
Organization: Computer & Information Systems Technology Development Center, Canon Inc., Tokyo, JAPAN

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In article <1992Jul28.052912.7406@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:
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From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: Objection CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:07:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan

Hi, this time, argument against Mr. Sakai's opinion.
$B5WLn$G$9!#$3$s$I$O<r0f$5$s$X$NH?O@$G$9!#(J

I wrote:
: G1. To attract the topics related to foreigners in Japan and
:     information they need, and increase the opportunities for discussions
:     and exchanges of information.
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sakai@db-soft.co.jp (SAKAI Nobuhiro) writes:
> $B$3$l$ONI$$$G$7$g$&!#(J
> This sounds all right.

: G2. To increase the opportunities for foreigners in Japan with
:     difficulty in writing/reading Japanese to communicate with public
:     in whatever language.
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:     $BITFCDjB??t$H%3%_%e%K%1!<%H$G$-$k5!2q$rA}$d$9!#(J

: G3. To increase the opportunites for Japanese who are prepared to
:     communicate in non-Japanese languages to interact with foreigners
:     in Japan.
:     $B309q8l$G$b%3%_%e%K%1!<%H$9$k0U;W$N$"$kF|K\?M$,!":_F|309q?M$H%3%_%e(J
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>    However, current status set aside for a while, I feel that
> news groups should be "keywords".  And the discussion in fj.misc
> has not yet reached to its conclusion.  So, I objet to G2 and G3
> above, which seems to suggest a news group for some specific
> community.

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  I myself think that retaining G2 and G3 will be desirable.
Should we wait till the discussion reach to some agreement,
or finally decide by vote?  Actually, "foreigners and we
Japanese are not at all different, so handle in exactly the
same manner" principle so important?  Visitors in Japan are
a kind of minority group, so why not a bit kind to them?

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  However, if dropping G2 and G3 result in smooth creation of
the new group, and most of related people consider it a better
way, then I'll not insist upon this so much.

							    $B5WLn(J
						    Yasushi Kuno
From: okuyama@trl.ibm.co.jp (Kenichi Okuyama)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: CFD: fj.comp.announce
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:44:51 GMT
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Distribution: fj
Organization: IBM Research, Tokyo Research Laboratory
In-reply-to: thiguchi@steinberger.japan.sun.com's message of 22 Jul 92 13:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.131200.6944@satsuki2.japan.Sun.COM> thiguchi@steinberger.japan.sun.com (T.Higuchi-NSun Software L10N mgr) writes:
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From: alceste@moliere.ihitsy.ihi.co.jp (Shiino Masayoshi)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Objection: fj.life.in-japan (Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan) [English+Japanese]
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:18:00 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Shipbuilding & Offshore, IHI

In article <1992Jul24.054621.17461@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp> kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno) writes:
>
>Here I declare CFD/CFA for a new newsgroup fj.life.in-japan.
>$@$3$3$K?7$7$$%0%k!<%W(Jfj.life.in-japan$@$N(JCFA/CFD$@$r$5$;$FD:$-$^$9!#(J
>Name of the group:	fj.life.in-japan

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No.
More discussion is needed on new newsgroup domain "fj.life.".
And. I am NO to fj.life. domain.
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Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: tss@a.u-tokyo.ac.jp (SASABE Tetsuro)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Reply-To: tss@a.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Agrobiology, Faculty of Agriculture, the University of
	Tokyo, JAPAN.
	<NAO.92Jul29174848@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:15:20 GMT

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Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: tss@a.u-tokyo.ac.jp (SASABE Tetsuro)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Reply-To: tss@a.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Agrobiology, Faculty of Agriculture, the University of
	Tokyo, JAPAN.
	<NAO.92Jul27111222@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
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	<MARKD.92Jul27092812@stallman.csl.sj.nec.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:42:44 GMT

In article <MARKD.92Jul27092812@stallman.csl.sj.nec.com>
    markd@csl.sj.nec.com (Mark Dyer) writes:

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Newsgroups: fj.news.group
From: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp (Naoki HAMADA)
Subject: Re: CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan [Japanese]
Reply-To: nao@jaist-east.ac.jp
Organization: ME
	<NAO.92Jul28140132@mimo.jaist-east.ac.jp>
	<HIRONOBU.92Jul28154132@ext221.sra.co.jp>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:14:42 GMT

In article <HIRONOBU.92Jul28154132@ext221.sra.co.jp> 
hironobu@sra.co.jp (Hironobu Suzuki) writes:
>$@$J$K4VH4$1$J$3(J$@$H$r=q$$$F$$$k$s$@!"$3$$$D$O!#(J

  $@$-$A$s$H5DO@$9$k5$$,$J$$$J$i=P$F$-$J$5$s$J!#(J

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From: ogata@etl.go.jp (Ichiro Ogata)
Subject: Re: Objection [CFD/CFA fj.life.in-japan]
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:10:57 GMT

In article <GtuvQ.801@mtak.bsj.com> logic@mtak.bsj.com (Masami
Takikawa) writes:

>$B$=$l$K;?@.$7$?B?$/$NJ}!9$N0U8+$O!"$=$&$$$&0[9q$G6lO+$7$F$$$kJ}!9(B
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From: furuta@srarc2.sra.CO.JP (Atsushi Furuta)
Subject: Re: Proposal: fj.comp.storage
	<1992Jul20.122031.9779@iris.is.tsukuba.ac.jp>
	<KANEKO.92Jul20145434@axiom.icsi.Berkeley>
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:09:00 GMT


  $B$U(B$B$k$?!w(BSRA$B$G$9!#(B

In article <KANEKO.92Jul20145434@axiom.icsi.Berkeley>
  kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko) writes:
>> $B:#8=:_!"<~JU5!4o4X78$N8&5f$K4X$9$k5-;v$O$[$H$s$I(B$BL5$/!"<BMQLL(B
>> $B$N5-;v$,<g$G$9$h$M!#$=$N>u67$+$i$7$F!"(Bfj.comp.storage $B$r:n(B$B$C(B
>> $B$F<BMQ$NOCBj$rG<$a$?$i!"8&5f4X78$NOCBj$rEj9F$9$k$N$b!"$=$N$?(B
>> $B$a$N#N#G$N:n@.$K$b>c32$K$J$j!":$$j$^$9!#(B

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	$B<BMQ(B	fj.comp.periphs.storage
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>> $B$$$k$o$1$G$9$+$i!"(Bsys $B$N2<$G:n$C$?$[$&$,$$$$$H;W$&!#(B

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From: kuno@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp (Yasushi Kuno)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: RESULT: the 4th inquiry on gaikokujin group [English+Japanese]
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:57:09 GMT
Organization: GSSM Otsuka, Univ. of TSUKUBA, Tokyo, Japan

claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
> If you consider that fj.life.in-japan received more YES than any other
> and the difference of NO is only 1, don't you consider fj.life.in-japan
> has more acceptance than fj.life.foreigner ?

    Yes, your point is taken.  I withdraw my suggestion and now
am willing to hear other people's opinion.

						   Yasushi Kuno
From: kono@csl.sony.co.jp (Shinji Kono)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [Objection] [CFD/CFA] mvgrp fj.lang => fj.comp.lang
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:08:14 GMT
Reply-To: kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Organization: Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc.

$@2OLn(J@CSL.Sony$@$G$9!#(J
In article <1992Jul24.074357.7765@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp> , 
	suehiro@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (SUEHIRO Kenji) writes 
>fj.comp.lang.* $@$NJ}$,E,Ev$@$H;W$C$?$i(J Objection $@$J$s$+=P$5$J$$$h!#(J
>$@$*4j$$$@$+$i2fED0z?e$O$d$a$F!#(J

$@$4$a$s$J$5$$!#(J

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$@$P!"(Jfj.comp.lang.* $@$,E,@Z$@$H$$$&$h$&$KFI$a$?$N$@$C$?!#(J


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Shinji Kono @           kono@csl.sony.co.jp
Sony Computer Science Laboratory, Inc,Japan
From: suga@iias.flab.fujitsu.co.jp (SUGANO hiroyasu)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: [Proposal] fj.living.health
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:48:45 GMT
	<2643@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: IIAS-SIS, Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., Japan

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>>>>> In article <2643@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>, hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo) writes:
> $@4pK\E*$K!"$3$l$^$G!"(Jfj.living$@$G$J$5$l$F$-$?$N(J$@$O!"(J
> fj.living.health$@$KBP$9$k<B@S$K$O$$$k$b$N$G!"(J

$@$3$NG'<1$O4E$$$G$9$h!%(Jfj.living $@$H$$$&$N$O(J general $@$J#N#G$G$9!%Nc$($P!$(J
fj.soc.environment $@$,$J$+$C$?$3$m$O(J fj.living $@$G%4%_$NOC$H$+$r$7$F$$$?!%(J
$@$$$^(J$@$O$[$H$s$I(J fj.soc.environment $@$K0\$C$F$$$^$9!%K\Mh!$(Jfj.living $@$H$$(J
$@$&$N$O!$@83hA4HL$K4X$o$k%H%T%C%/E*(J$@$JOCBj$r8r49$9$k#N#G$G!$5DO@$,8DJL2=(J
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> fj.sci.med*$@$NJ}$O!"(Jfj.sci.misc$@$G:G6a5DO@$,;O$^$j!"$3$l$+$iH/E8$7$F$$$/(J
> $@$b$N$G!"4p(J$@K\E*$K:Q$_J,$1$O$9$G$K$G$-$F$$$k$H;W$$$^$9!#(J

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From: marbm-b@ascii.co.jp (Marcos Bachir Mubaied)
Subject: gaikokugo
Organization: ASCII Corp. Tokyo, Japan
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:11:51 GMT


	
	
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From: alceste@moliere.ihitsy.ihi.co.jp (Shiino Masayoshi)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: CFA Succeeded fj.rec.travel.{japan,world,air}
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:28:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Shipbuilding & Offshore, IHI

In article <2658@tansei1.tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo) writes:
>$@EDCf$5$s$,$=$&$$$C$F$7$^$&$H!"(Jmisc$@$N%b%F%#%Y!<%7%g%s$,Gv$/$J$C$F$7$^$&$J!#(J
>$@C/$+!"@dBP$3$C$A$,$$$$$H$$$&0U8+$rEj9F$7$F$/$l$k$H$d$j$d$9$$$s$G$9$1$I!#(J

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$@$rL><B6&$K!VJ,3d$7$?!W$H1>$&0U;WI=<($@$7!"JQ$($J$$$I$/$N$O!"5l(J
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$@$PBh#3%l%Y%k$N#N#G$G(J misc $@;}$C$F$k$N$C$FL5$$$s$G$9$M!#$o$6$o$6(J
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From: kaneko@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Seiji Kaneko)
Newsgroups: fj.news.group
Subject: Re: RESULT: CFA fj.windows.ms succeeded
Date: 31 Jul 1992 07:44:01 GMT
Organization: international computer science institute
Distribution: fj
NNTP-Posting-Host: axiom.icsi.berkeley.edu

$B$+$M$3!w$R$?$A$G$9!#(B
In article <1992Jul31.065902.29367@nntp.csl.sony.co.jp> kono@csl.sony.co.jp writes:
>In article <618@apricot.cradle.titech.ac.jp> , 
>	momosaki@cradle.titech.ac.jp (Kohei MOMOSAKI) writes 
>>  fj.windows.ms $B$K$D$$$F$N(B CFA $B$r(B 15 Jul 92 23:47:22 GMT $B$KEj9F$7(B
>>$B$F$+$i!"(BCFA $B$KL@5-$7$?#2=54V$N4|8B(B 30 Jul 1992 12:00 GMT $B$N4V$K!"(B
>>$B0[5D$,=P$5$l$^$;$s$G$7$?!#=>$C$F!"(Bfj.windows.ms $B$N(B CFA $B$N>5G'@.N)(B
>>$B$r@k8@$7$^$9!#(B
>
>$B$*$a$G$H$&$4$6$$$^$9!#(B

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$B$K4|BT$7$^$9!#$Q$A$Q$A$Q$A!#(B
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