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From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison)
Subject: Re: MX and Nameserver
Reply-To: madison@tgv.com
Organization: The Foundation for Dinner Peas
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:13:28 GMT

In article <009636A1.B2B2DF60.9917@PIB1.physik.uni-bonn.de>, Peter Kobe <system@PIB1.physik.uni-bonn.de> writes:
>A question to the gurus:
>How does MX in combination with CMU-TeK lookup Names/Adresses?

For CMU-Tek V6.4, MX does its own DNS lookups for MX records.  For later
versions of CMU-Tek, it will use NAMRES for all DNS lookups, including MX
record lookups.  However, the SYSGEN parameter MAXBUF must be set to at least
2300 for this to work.

If MAXBUF is set correctly, try turning on debugging in MX_SMTP and see if
the resulting trace helps you determine what's going on.  If there's any
debugging stuff you can turn on in NAMRES, that might help as well.

-Matt
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Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com    | +1 408 427 4366
TGV, Inc.       | 603 Mission Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: smtp server/null addresses
From: sysmail@MNSMC1.MNSMC.EDU
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 10:48:30 CST
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List


I am having trouble getting mx smtp server to accept a null
address from other hosts during the smtp session.

This session originates from host sam in the local domain. It connects
to host MNSMC1 which is a 3100/80 running 6.5 CMUTEK and MX v 3.1C

Here is the smtp session:

220 MNSMC1.MNSMC.EDU MX V3.1C SMTP SERVER READY AT MON, 09 NOV 1992 10:21:03
sam: HELO sam.mnsmc.edu
250 Hello, sam.mnsmc.edu
sam: Mail from: <>
501 Invalid Address: <>
sam: 501, unexpected response from remote smtp server 501

Initially I thought that sam was trying to pass off mail which
had a null, and therefore invalid address. However, in reading
rfc 821 - SMTP and after looking at the message on the sending
system the message is a undeliverable mail notification message
which should have a null address to prevent looping.

However, MX is erring out on any message with a null address. Can
MX handle such an address, do I need to upgrade or change my
configuration to enable this to happen?

Thanks for your assistance, Dan.


==============================================================================
Daniel W. Bick
St. Mary's College of Minnesota
Systems Manager
sysmail@mnsmc1.mnsmc.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: RE: Routing mail
From: "Jonathan E. Hardis" <hardis@garnet.nist.gov>
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:41:55 -0500 (EST)
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> MX paths :
>
> STROPH $mcp show path
>
> Domain-to-path mappings:
>   Domain="stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr", Path=Local
>   Domain="stroph", Path=Local
>   Domain="[161.3.1.11]", Path=Local
>   Domain="UNIV-ST-ETIENNE.FR", Path=Local
>   Domain="rineta.univ-st-etienne.fr", Path=SMTP,
>                                        Route="rineta.univ-st-etienne.fr"
>   Domain="rineta", Path=SMTP, Route="rineta.univ-st-etienne.fr"
>   Domain="[161.3.1.13]", Path=SMTP, Route="[161.3.1.13]"
>   Domain="*.UUCP", Path=SMTP, Route="uunet.uu.net"
>   Domain="*.BITNET", Path=SMTP, Route="mirsa.inria.fr"
>   Domain="*", Path=SMTP

This method has a hidden premise:  if a host (such as rineta.univ...) has
both MX and A records in the name server, a mailer should give precidence
to the MX address.  That's how remote hosts know to send mail for rineta to
stroph, even though it could also look up the IP address of rineta itself.

So why should stroph act any differently?  When it does the address
resolution for Route=rineta.univ-st-etienne.fr, it will also use the MX
record over the A record.  In other words, in this application you can't
use the name server at all (without getting a loop).

As an alternative, try "hard wiring" the IP address into the configuration,
  Domain="rineta...", Path=SMTP, Route="[161.3.1.13]"
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison)
Subject: Re: VMS MAIL personal names / From: lines
Reply-To: madison@tgv.com
Organization: The Foundation for Dinner Peas
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:34:07 GMT

In article <00963690.AA79D4E0.14306@swdev.si.com>, "Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425" writes:
>Matthew Madison (madison@tgv.com) writes:
>
>>BTW, it appears that the software that gateways the MX-List mailing list
>>to the vmsnet.mail.mx newsgroup (which is where I read this stuff) also has
>>problems with your From: line, most likely because it spans multiple lines.
>
>When I read the RFC, it apeared to say that folded lines were perfectly
>legitimate and that they are supposed to be handled by RFC-compliant mailers.
>Is it, then, that the gateway isn't RFC-compliant?

There isn't really an RFC for this sort of gateway.  But if you mean that
it's not handling legitimately constructed multi-line RFC822 headers, then
the answer is yes.  And if your next question is "is that OK?" the answer is
probably no.

I've CC'd Mark Berryman on this.  Care to comment, Mark?

-Matt
--
Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com    | +1 408 427 4366
TGV, Inc.       | 603 Mission Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: Re: I need some help diagnosing an SMTP problem.
Date: 11 Nov 1992 21:45:11 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <0096373B.40C13380.15269@swdev.si.com>, "Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425" writes:
>I have the following message in the MX queue:

>Here is what the MX SMTP debug information says about it.  I'm uncertain what
>it's telling me.  Perhaps you can explain.  In particular, I don't know what the
>"451 Loop while matching ruleset 0" message means.  I conjecture it is a problem
>on node aries, but how can I verify that?

It's telling you that whomever manages aries.si.com has misconfigured
/usr/lib/sendmail.cf.  Whatever he's done results in the address
<beaver@swdev.si.com> causing sendmail to go into an infinite loop.  I'd
suggest that you email postmaster@aries.si.com, but obviously that's not going
to work since he's managed to screw up his mailer configuration.  If you can
find out who he is, phone him or use talk.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: Re: VMS MAIL personal names / From: lines
Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:15:17 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <0096365E.615FEA60.12219@EIMONI.TUWIEN.AC.AT>, "Franz Schoenbauer,Computer Science,Vienna,Austria, +43-1-58801-4126" writes:
>I'm using MX V3.1C, VMS 5.5-1 and i have set a personal name in
>VMS-mail. When i send a message out it appears as
>
>From: "Franz Schoenbauer,Computer Science,Vienna,Austria, +43-1-58801-4126"
                         ^                ^      ^
>      <system@EIMONI.TUWIEN.AC.AT>

>at the unix box. Is this a valid from line ?

No.  The commas aren't allowed.  The basic format is fine, but you can't use
special characters ("(",  ")",  "<",  ">",  "@", ",",  ";",  ":",  "\",  ".", 
"[",  "]", or the quote character (") itself) in your personal name.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: "Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425"
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: I need some help diagnosing an SMTP problem.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:16:48 EST
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

I have the following message in the MX queue:

$ mcp que sho/ful 15114
Entry: 15114, Origin: [Local] <beaver@swdev.si.com>
  Status: IN-PROGRESS, size: 12 bytes
  Created: 11-NOV-1992 08:47:45.99, expires 11-DEC-1992 08:47:45.99
  Last modified 11-NOV-1992 11:03:52.28
  SMTP entry #15115, status: READY, size: 12 bytes, waiting for retry until 11-N
OV-1992 11:34:01.29
    Created: 11-NOV-1992 08:48:26.05, expires 11-DEC-1992 08:47:45.99
    Last modified 11-NOV-1992 11:04:01.33
      Recipient #1: <guest@aries.si.com>, Route=aries.si.com
      Error count=5
      Last error: %NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 0C268050

Here is what the MX SMTP debug information says about it.  I'm uncertain what
it's telling me.  Perhaps you can explain.  In particular, I don't know what the
"451 Loop while matching ruleset 0" message means.  I conjecture it is a problem
on node aries, but how can I verify that?

11-NOV-1992 11:03:51.48 Processing queue entry number 15115 on node HEINHU
11-NOV-1992 11:03:52.52   Recipient: <guest@aries.si.com>, route=aries.si.com
11-NOV-1992 11:03:52.57   SMTP_SEND: looking up host name aries.si.com
11-NOV-1992 11:03:52.86   SMTP_SEND: Attempting to start session with
aries.si.com [126.1.1.67]
11-NOV-1992 11:03:52.88   SMTP_SEND: Connected
11-NOV-1992 11:03:53.09   SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 220 aries.si.com Sendmail
920330.SGI/920502.SGI ready at Wed, 11 Nov 92 11:10:10 -0500
11-NOV-1992 11:03:54.10   SMTP_SEND: Sent: HELO heinhu.si.com
11-NOV-1992 11:03:54.13   SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 250 aries.si.com Hello heinhu.si.com,
pleased to meet you
11-NOV-1992 11:03:54.13   SMTP_SEND: Sent: MAIL FROM:<beaver@swdev.si.com>
11-NOV-1992 11:03:57.17   SMTP_SEND: Rcvd: 451 Loop while matching ruleset 0,
line 512: Connection refused by heinhu.si.com
11-NOV-1992 11:03:57.39   SMTP send failed, sts=0C27804A, sts2=0C268050
11-NOV-1992 11:03:57.39   Recipient status=0C268050 for <guest@aries.si.com>
11-NOV-1992 11:04:01.29   1 rcpts need retry, next try 11-NOV-1992 11:34:01.29
11-NOV-1992 11:04:01.48 *** End of processing pass ***



-----------------------------+--------------------------------
 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |           tillman_brian@si.com
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
-----------------------------+--------------------------------
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: Re: VMS MAIL personal names / From: lines
From: Franz Schoenbauer <system@EIMONI.TUWIEN.AC.AT>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:29:48 EST
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Thanks for all responses.
I've shortened my personal name and now my From: line is only
one line.

A minor question still: what do i have to do to reverse the
order of appearence, i.e. instead of

From: Franz Schoenbauer <system@EIMONI.TUWIEN.AC.AT>

i'd like to have

From: system@EIMONI.TUWIEN.AC.AT (Franz Schoenbauer)

Is this to be done in MX or in VMSmail ?



Franz Schoenbauer, Tech. Univ. Vienna,      schoenbauer@eimoni.tuwien.ac.at
Resselg. 3/188  A-1040, Vienna, Austria     +43(1)58801 ext. 4131
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: Re: Routing mail
From: "Alberto Meregalli (SIC)" <meregalli@cesi.UUCP>
Date: 09 Nov 1992 15:58:21 +0100
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Herve GILIBERT <gilibert@stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr> writes:

>The differents solutions I tried using MX RRs and define path command causes
>mails looping from and to the MX node.
>Does anybody has implemented a solution and can send me his MX RRs and DEF path
>commands ?

This is how I did: (I really don't know if this is useful for you
because I am connected to the net through UUCP; I have also some UUCP
rewrite rules I don't show you! Anyhow my SMTP path is internal to my
domain, while UUCP goes outwards.)


  MX version id is: MX V3.1C

  Address-rewriting rules:
    Rewrite "<{user}@mvax1.cesi.it>" => "<""mvax1::{user}""@decvax>"

        #(MVAX1 is a DECnet (VMS) node on my LAN without MX on board)

  Domain-to-path mappings:
    Domain="decvax", Path=Local # my cluster alias
    Domain="vax6000", Path=Local # one cluster member
    Domain="vax8530", Path=Local # the other
    Domain="cesi.it", Path=Local # my domain name
    Domain="decvax.cesi.it", Path=Local # my vaxcluster alias fully qualified
                                                name
    Domain="vax6000.cesi.it", Path=Local # one vaxcluster member FQN
    Domain="vax8530.cesi.it", Path=Local # the other vaxcluster member
                                                FQN
    Domain="*.cesi.it", Path=SMTP # matches all FQN of hosts in my
        # domain not already treated by RR or previous paths
    Domain="*.UUCP", Path=UUCP
    Domain="*.*", Path=UUCP # I access all other RFC822-style names through UUCP
    Domain="*", Path=SMTP # this should catch up simple names without domain
        # qualification originated on the LAN

I hope that can help you.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Alberto Meregalli, SIC                         tel. +39 2 2125 249
Centro Elettrotecnico Sperimentale Italiano    fax  +39 2 2125 520
Via Rubattino, 54 - I 21034 Milano

Internet: meregalli@cesi.it         UUCP: ...i2unix!cesi!meregalli
From: <jpsmith@CEDAR.atmel.com>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: Signoff for now
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 11:12:36 MST
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

SIGNOFF MX-List
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison)
Subject: Re: VMS MAIL personal names / From: lines
Reply-To: madison@tgv.com
Organization: The Foundation for Dinner Peas
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:59:55 GMT

In article <0096365E.615FEA60.12219@EIMONI.TUWIEN.AC.AT>,
 "Franz Schoenbauer,Computer Science,Vienna,Austria, +43-1-58801-4126" writes:
>I'm using MX V3.1C, VMS 5.5-1 and i have set a personal name in
>VMS-mail. When i send a message out it appears as
>
>From: "Franz Schoenbauer,Computer Science,Vienna,Austria, +43-1-58801-4126"
>      <system@EIMONI.TUWIEN.AC.AT>
>
>at the unix box. Is this a valid from line ?

Yes.  It's actually two lines, though. 

>I've had trouble suscribing to mailing lists and it turned out
>people couldn't use my from line, and were expecting something
>like
>
>From: franzi (Franz Schoenbauer)
>
>which is the from line i see when i receive mail from the unix
>box on VMS via MX.

That is technically valid, too (provided for "franzi" you actually
have a valid "user@host"-type address).

I suspect that the problem is that the mailing lists that are having problems
are having them because your address spans multiple lines.  If you were
to shorten your personal name (make it just your name, for example, leaving
the rest of the information to a signature file), you would probably have
an easier time.

BTW, it appears that the software that gateways the MX-List mailing list
to the vmsnet.mail.mx newsgroup (which is where I read this stuff) also has
problems with your From: line, most likely because it spans multiple lines.

-Matt
--
Matthew Madison | madison@tgv.com    | +1 408 427 4366
TGV, Inc.       | 603 Mission Street | Santa Cruz, CA 95060 USA
From: hardis@garnet.nist.gov (Jonathan E. Hardis)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: RE: Mail routing
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:00:44 GMT
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> I'd like to have E-mails sent to any node on my domain to be routed
> through my MX node called STROPH. Setting this MX record into my DNS for
> the differents nodes:
>     node1   MX    10    stroph.univ-st-etienne.fr
> and sending mail to node1 causes MX to loop sending the mail to itself
> (STROPH).
> I suppose I need some rewrite rules or path.
> Can any one help me to set it.

This is out of my area of personal experience, but the answer seems clear.
Going down the list of DEFINE PATH statements, MX eventually gets to
  DEFINE PATH * SMTP,
looks the route up in the name server, and learns to send the mail to
itself.

What's called for are a list of the exceptions, known only to stroph, where
the name server isn't used.  I would try, for every MX record in the DNS,
corresponding information in CONFIG.MCP:
  DEFINE PATH "node1"                    SMTP/ROUTE="node1.univ-st-etienne.fr"
  DEFINE PATH "node1.univ-st-etienne.fr" SMTP/ROUTE="node1.univ-st-etienne.fr"

(Don't forget that these definitions will have to come before the DEFINE
PATH * statement, which means that you can't add them to your existing
MX_CONFIG.MXCFG file -- you have to rebuild it.)
From: "Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425"
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: Re: VMS MAIL personal names / From: lines
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:55:46 EST
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Matthew Madison (madison@tgv.com) writes:

>BTW, it appears that the software that gateways the MX-List mailing list
>to the vmsnet.mail.mx newsgroup (which is where I read this stuff) also has
>problems with your From: line, most likely because it spans multiple lines.

When I read the RFC, it apeared to say that folded lines were perfectly
legitimate and that they are supposed to be handled by RFC-compliant mailers.
Is it, then, that the gateway isn't RFC-compliant?

-----------------------------+--------------------------------
 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |           tillman_brian@si.com
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
-----------------------------+--------------------------------
From: hardis@garnet.nist.gov (Jonathan E. Hardis)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: RE: Mail Delivery Problem
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:08:44 GMT
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Your question is fine for this list, if a bit unclear.

Regarding the mail that fails --- where was it actually being sent to?

It looks like it was being sent from "e2pytips@fre.fsu.umd.edu" to
"TIPS@FRE.FSU.UMD.EDU", that is, on the same host.  So why (and how) did
the mail get sent to CUNYVM (presumably the Bitnet gateway)?

What transports (CMU/TEK, JNET, UUCP, etc.) is your MX using, and how are
the path statements set up in the configuration file?

In what may be a related issue, I notice in your SIG:
   BITNET:    E2PYTIPS%FRE.FSU.UMD.EDU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

This requests one particular way of gatewaying mail from Bitnet to the
Internet.  It may not be the best way for many people on Bitnet, and the
way you phrased it (CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU rather than just CUNYVM) may not work
for everyone.  For example, if you wanted to send mail to Bitnet you could
probably use a gateway at UMD in College Park (rather than CUNYVM).  When
you send mail to Bitnet using MX, you should just addresss it as
SOMEONE@SOMEWHERE.BITNET, and let the MX configuration take care of
adding the gateway information.
From: "Monica Heigl Tel. 089/3299-2594" <heigl@net.ipp-garching.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: SIGNOFF
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:16:42 EST
Organization: Mx-List<==>Vmsnet.Mail.Mx Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Please unsubscribe me from this list.
Heigl@net.ipp-garching.mpg.de
From: karin@zach.fit.edu (Karin Nicholson)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
Subject: MX From: field question
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:25:23 GMT
Followup-To: nicholson@iguana.fit.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Hi fellow MX-users,

First of all, thanks to all of you who replied to my request for info
on installing MX 3.1 on UCX 2.0 on VMX 5.5-1.  I did install it and
am pleased to announce that it works nicely.  Nice documentation, too!

I do have one teensie quirk that I need to get around and am turning
to you because I am getting nowhere quickly.  Whenever I send mail to
anyone, whether within or outside my domain, the From field shows up
as simply user@node with the domain info missing in both VMS and SMTP
From fields.  Recipients cannot simply reply to my message.  The info
does show up in the Sender field.  I tried to fix this by adding the
following logical:

   define/sys/exec mx_vmsmail_from_format "<!AS@!AS.fit.edu>"

This caused the SMTP version of the From field to be bogus (see
below), but did not solve the problem.  

 From:   SMTP%"nicholson@iguana"
 To:     nicholson@roo.fit.edu
 CC:     nicholson@iguana
 Subj:   hi

 Received: from iguana [192.42.239.3] by ROO.FIT.EDU
            with SMTP-VMS via TCP/IP; Wed, 4 Nov 1992 14:25 EDT
 Received: by IGUANA.FIT.EDU (MX V3.1C) id 44; Wed, 04 Nov 1992 14:24:54 EST
 Sender: nicholson@IGUANA.FIT.EDU
 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 14:24:52 EST
 From: "Karin, FIT VAX Mgr & FlaSC DECUS LUG Chair"
       <nicholson@IGUANA.FIT.EDU.fit.edu>
 Reply-To: nicholson@iguana
 To: nicholson@roo.fit.edu
 CC: nicholson@iguana
 Message-ID: <009631D5.5AB4ECC0.44@IGUANA.FIT.EDU>
 Subject: hi

When I added the following logical:

   define mx_reply_to "nicholson@iguana.fit.edu"

I did get the complete address in the Reply_To field, but again both
From fields just had user@node info.

Is there any way to force the full internet address to show up in the
From fields?  If so, could someone please tell me what the magic
command or configure option is?  Please forgive my ignorance if the
solution turns out to be blatantly obvious or right in front of my
face.  Incidentally, I did RTFM.  Thanks in advance for your help.

-- 

 .-.|     |    |     | |    /------------------\   Karin Nicholson
 |  |-..-.|/.-.|-..-.|*|/  < karin@zach.fit.edu >  VAX Sys Mgr @ Florida Tech 
 `-'| |`-'|\`-'| |`-'|||\   \------------------/   Florida Space Coast LUG Chair
Newsgroups: vmsnet.mail.mx
From: madison@tgv.com (Matt Madison)
Subject: Re: New mail announcement broadcast to users should be clusterwide
Reply-To: madison@tgv.com
Organization: The Foundation for Dinner Peas
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:38:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.165031.2823@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms) writes:
>We have installed MX3.1C on VMS 5.5-1 .
>The MX processes are running only on our boot node in the LAVC cluster.
>The new mail flag in UAF is set correctly, but the broadcast is sent only
>to the logged in terminals of the corresponding user at the boot node and not
>to this user clusterwide as what is expected like VMS mail. This is very
>annoying, because our users should'nt log in on the boot server of course.

MX uses VMS MAIL for delivery of messages, and it's VMS MAIL that produces
those broadcasts.  It sounds to me like you don't have the MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS
logical defined correctly on your boot node.  It should be defined as 3 or
7.  See chapter 9 of the Mail Utility Manual (part of the VMS doc set) for
further information on MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS.

-Matt
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