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From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: FPU inits for 68030 machines?
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 19:03:37 GMT


I would like to know if anyone knows of any extensions that make floating
point calculations faster on 68030 machines w/o fpus. I just got a PB 145
the other day, and, while I don't use anything really FPU-intensive right
now, I figured it might help with packages such as DeltaGraph Pro, my C
programs, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Jay
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: Looking for Lisp (Xlisp as an example) for the Mac
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:35:12 GMT

I'm looking for a public domain/freeware Lisp
interprester/compiler/environment for the Mac.  I did find XLisp on
orst.edu but that particular Lisp package has been archived as a "fit"
file (NOT a "sit" file).  I guess this is a predicessor to SIT files
or something.  I tried opening the "fit" file with Stuffit Classic
1.5.1 and although Stuffit will list the contents of the archive, it
won't unpack the archive!  This is REALLY annoying!

So are there any Lisp systems out there for the mac that I can readily
unpack and is there any means to unpackin those stupid "fit" files?

Appreciate your help...

- Hacker

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: accelerators for MAC II
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:23:17 GMT

In article <92273.1245368827268@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> 8827268@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at (worm) writes:
>Dear netters|
>
>I wanted to know which accelerators (type, performance, price, compatibility, e
>tc.) are available for the Mac II.
>
>Especially I heard that the radius rocket is said to be good. How fast are the
>boards (25, 33 MHz or faster?)? Would it be possible to install the board by my
>self?

The Radius Rockets are fast, and you have the ability to effectively run
two or more Macs at once in a single box.  However, being NuBus cards,
they are inherently less compatable than a processor-direct accelerator
card like the DayStar PowerCache.  You might find that a lot of programs
which ran on your Mac II (and which even run on a Quadra) don't run with
the Rocket.  The Rocket also requires its own RAM, so you'll have to pay
extra for that.  I doubt that you'll be worried about lack of available
NuBus slots on a Mac II, but people with IIcx's and IIci's might be
tight on NuBus slots.  The PowerCache doesn't use one.

If you're not familiar with the PowerCache, it's a combination
accelerator and 32K cache card which works with the Mac II, as well as most
other Macs.  A $39 adaptor is the only thing you need to change to use
the PowerCache in a different kind of Mac, and DayStar will trade one
adaptor for another for free.  The adaptor for the Mac II fits in the
CPU and MMU sockets, and comes with a tool for removing the CPU and MMU
so you can easily insert the adaptor.

Right now you can only get 68030 accelerators up to 50mhz, but a 33mhz
'040 is due out by the end of the year and a 40mhz '040 is due out next
year.  The 68030 accelerators are available with or without an FPU (if
you get one without the FPU it will still use the one on your
motherboard), and range in price from $600 or so (for the 33mhz without
FPU) to $1500 or so (for the 50mhz with FPU).  You can upgrade at any
time for the difference in list price.  As part of a special deal, if you 
buy the 50mhz '030 with FPU before November 1 you can upgrade to the 33mhz 
'040 when it comes out for $99.  If you buy the 50mhz w/o FPU you can upgrade 
for $399.  Otherwise you just upgrade for the difference in list price (the 
33mhz '040 will list for $1999).

You can expect the 33mhz '030 PowerCache to double your Mac II's speed,
and the 50mhz '030 should triple it.  The PowerCache cards are 100%
compatible.  I haven't run across anything that won't run with it yet (I
have a 50mhz PowerCache w/o FPU in my LC II).


--
Steve Kanefsky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Earl D. Fife <fife@calvin.edu>
Subject: Re: Looking for Lisp (Xlisp as an example) for the Mac
X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:01:26 GMT
Organization: Calvin College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:00:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.013512.9425@access.digex.com> Dark Hacker,
hacker@access.digex.com writes:
>  I'm looking for a public domain/freeware Lisp
>interprester/compiler/environment for the Mac.  I did find XLisp on
> orst.edu but that particular Lisp package has been archived as a "fit"
> file (NOT a "sit" file).  I guess this is a predicessor to SIT files
> or something.  I tried opening the "fit" file with Stuffit Classic
> 1.5.1 and although Stuffit will list the contents of the archive, it
> won't unpack the archive!  This is REALLY annoying!

Look at mac.archive.umich.edu in mac/development/languages for a program 
xlispstat2.1r2.cpt.hqx.  This is xlisp along with a package to do
statistics.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Earl D. Fife          |          Department of Mathematics
fife@calvin.edu       |          Calvin College
(616)957-6403         |          Grand Rapids, MI 49546

"Make up your mind, Margaret. First you tell me 3 plus 3 is 6, 
and now you tell me 4 plus 2 is six!"     --Dennis the Menace

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Brian Schott)
Subject: script FIND puts box around target. Can I remove it?
Keywords: Hypercard, find, scripting, question
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:13:40 GMT

How can the box around the successfully found phrase be detected and removed?
In our BBS frontend a button threads through messages using FIND. We would
like NOT to see the box since it is distracting and not needed.

Thank you.


-- 
Brian Schott/Decision Sciences Dept.             qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu
College of Business Administration                         404-651-4070
Georgia State University                  interests: approx. reasoning,
Atlanta, Georgia USA 30303-3083     (B=)       decision support systems
From: parshall@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Jim Parshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: mousedown and field problem
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:50:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

What you're trying to do with multiple fields is difficult but maybe not
impossible.  To show multiple columns selected you will need to create a
transparent button that traverses all of the fields and highlight it.  The
result is inverted text.  To show multiple rows selected simply select
certain lines of a field.  Other than these simple things you will find the
scripting (even if it can be done) will run incredible slow.

Probably the best way to handle this is to get the XCMD "Tabloid" written
by Frederic Rinaldi.  It creates a separate windoid (but can appear as
integrated in the card) and will handle the selections you wish.

I know Tabloid is available on AppleLink but I'm not sure where else...

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: brady@cs.tcd.ie (Michael Brady)
Subject: Re: Logic Manager
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.lang.prolog,comp.ai.shells,aus.ai
Organization: University of Dublin
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:11:44 GMT

In article <19so0tINN29s@corax.udac.uu.se>, stephen@csd.uu.se (Stephen
Cooper) wrote:
> 
> 
> 5) Get system 7.0 & LPA MacProlog.  It supports Apple events.
> 

Maybe you'd like to try Open Prolog. It has a foreign language interface
which can see AppleEvents (the interface files are for MPW Pascal).

It's available by FTP from grattan.cs.tcd.ie (134.226.32.15), directory
languages/open-prolog. Current Version is 1.0d36
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Laurie Kirchmeier <laurence.kirchmeier@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: QTRecordMovie XCMD and VideoSpigot Question
Organization: Office of Instructional Technology, Univ of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:22:47 GMT

In article <1a03h8INNabd@agate.berkeley.edu> , jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu
writes:
>No, what you have isn't the VDIG. The VDIG is called, I believe,
"SpigotVDIG".
>The VideoSpigot Extension is actually a codec, which is necessary to
>decompress movies saved in the ScreenPlay format (i.e. if you "Save",
rather
>than "Save as" when using ScreenPlay) Unfortunately, I don't know where
>to tell you to get the VDIG. 

 The VDIG is available from SuperMac - it's still a beta release as far
as I know.  When we tested the VDIG with live recording using Hypercard,
results were very disappointing. Compared with using the RasterOps VDIG
(plus ROps card) and the spigot VDIG (with spigot card), we were getting
frame rates of only 3-4 frames /sec on a Mac IIfx vs 10-12 fps with the
ROps VDIG on the identical machine.  The image quality was much fuzzier
as well using the Spigot VDIG.    I really hope that these problems are
due to  the fact that the VDIG is beta.  Given the fact that it has now
been 4 months since the beta was released and there have been no signs of
the release VDIG yet (at least as far as I know), I am not confident that
real-time recording & compression using the Spigot will ever be a viable
option.  For live recording, followed by a separate compression step, the
Spigot is excellent.
 
Laurie Kirchmeier
Office of Instrucitonal Technology
University of Michigan
AppleLink : A0214
Internet : laurence.kirchmeier@umich.edu
From: robert@wsooti01.info.win.tue.nl (Robert J.P.B. Lukassen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: I need help on drawing from Hypercard scripts.
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:04:33 GMT
Reply-To: robert@info.win.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

Hello,

I'm doing some work in Hypercard (2.1) involving little pictures of 46x46
pixels in black and white which I must combine logically (i.e. or, and, xor
them).

I need HyperTalk commands that let me inverstigate the state of pixels on the
screen, and turning specific pixels on or off.

Question: Does HyperTalk 2.1 support any commands that let me do the above?
	  (Could not find something like it in a manual of HyperTalk 1.1)

	  Is there an XCMD package that supports any commands that can turn
          pixels on/off and can investigate individual pixels ?

Please reply using EMAIL and thank you for your time.




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|  Email: robert@info.win.tue.nl       |  The Netherlands                     |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: dblackbu@carr11.alleg.edu (David Blackburn)
Subject: Re: What is 'Unexpected error 5454'? -- bad card
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:19:29 GMT

In article <9227915.28355@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dpg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Daniel  
Patrick GOTTLIEBSEN) writes:
> 	One of my stacks quits hypercard with 'Unexpected error 5454' whenever 
> I go to a particular card in it or attempt to compact it. Does anybody know
> what this error message means? Also I have heard of a stack called Recover
> or something like that, that will automatically copy the uncorrupted cards.  
Does
> anyone know of an FTP site where it is available?

You've figured it out already. You have a corrupted card. Now, has anyone out  
there compiled the "How to deal with one bad card in a stack" FAQ list?
--

* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *
From: tgoose@eng.umd.edu (Jason Garms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: AppleTalk XCMDs for HyperCard
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:20:44 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

The header says it all.

I would greatly appreciate if someone can point me in the
correct direction.  I have one for getting AppleTalk Zones,
but I need to be able to send, and receive ATP, etc.

Thanks a lot

Jason Garms
tgoose@eng.umd.edu
From: spindler@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Spindler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Password
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:10:25 GMT
Reply-To: spindler@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David Spindler)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: spindler@doc.cc.utexas.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: grasmeye@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Joel M. Grasmeyer)
Subject: Scripting in v2.0
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 22:24:40 GMT

How do I use the scripting level in v2.0?

thanks

Joel Grasmeyer
grasmeye@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: please clarify this "player" business
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:18:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.075143.22767@cs.ucla.edu> jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Rosenberg) writes:

>Is it true now that the basic version of hyperCard that will come with
>new macs will not allow scripting/authoring by the casual user?  Do I
>understand this correctly?

True.

>Will the development kit, at $300+ be the only way to create new stacks?

No.  The $349 package licenses the developer to distribute the 
HC Player with his/her stackware, and also enables the developer
to create and distribute stand-alone "Stack-Apps" that have the
player built in.

The "Development Kit" still sells for about $100 by mail-order.

I suppose that that the "we've just got to live with this, folks"
explanation would be that the Development Kit offers a better
HyperCard than we used to have with more and better documentation.

I still think that casual users should have a means of programming
their machine, right out of the box, even if most never touch it. 
IBM still offers BASIC; and it's even been improved ;-) for DOS 5.0.
I used to LOVE showing people the kind of programming capability
that Macs had right out of box, compared to the wimpy stuff that
the so-called "real computers" offer.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
From: Al@egansys.uucp (Al Egan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: even more stupid newbie questions...
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 22:50:24 EDT(-0400)
Organization: Egan Systems & Metalogic S.a r.l.
Reply-To: Al@egansys.uucp (Al Egan)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0


In article <1992Sep28.022021.29744@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> (comp.sys.mac.hypercard), twillis@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas E Willis) writes:
> but i run into this problem: when you click on a button, the current
> selection is deactivated and thus "the selection" returns nothing.  this is

Try the clickChunk.  It sticks around until you click again.

> to get mouseDowns, which basicaly breaks the code i'm using to do the link
> traversal.

Try a mouseWithin handler (mouseWithin s continue while editing goes on).
see handler checkActiveText in the help stack script for ideas.

You might use the optionKey = up to traverse the link, and = down to edit.
Or, you could require the user to click after the word to edit it, and just
before or in the word to traverse the link.  Turning on arrow keys in text
may help here.

--  Alan Egan    Egan Systems    Metalogic S.a r.l.    Holder, Egan & Company, Inc.
    Al@egansys   (Al%egansys@wsu-cs.cs.wayne.edu)      Grosse Pointe Shores, MI
    non-preferred:            CompuServe 73540,556     AppleLink Egan.Systems
From: helper@castle.ed.ac.uk (A Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: RTF import to hypercard
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:46:23 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Edinburgh University

I want to export a word or wordperfect file as RTF and read it into
hypercard. In hypercard I want to display the text but have the option
of retaining the markup (via RTF).  Anyone been there?

Arthur
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: ellens@bnr.ca (Chris Ellens)
Subject: Re: Hypercard as a database manager
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:24:47 GMT

In article <3+4-yF+@engin.umich.edu>, suelong@engin.umich.edu (Suzanne
Long) wrote:
> 
> I know virtually nothing about hypercard, but would like to
> use it to write a database application.  How can I index on
> field names so I can do queries and what not.  I know you can
> tie hypercard into other applications, but where should I 
> begin in trying to figure out what applications would work
> the best for my project?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Kinda clueless,
> 
> Sue Long

I saw a demo of a HyperCard-based database management system on Compu$erve
a while back called hyper_VISTA. The demo stack is a database of books and
journal articles. It's based on an XFCN that's restricted to database
fields that have to do with books (author, title, etc.) but if you buy 
their product you would be able to generate any database you want. 
Supposedly the demo stack was the subject of an article in the Feb'91 issue
of MacTutor (I haven't seen it). hyper_VISTA is a product of Ajalon Corp.,
Oxnard CA. (805) 985-7761 according to my notes.

Chris Ellens
ellens@bnr.ca
From: xixax@panix.com (Dany Drennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Script speed questions
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:07:20 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC


I thought I would pass on the following concerning the speed issue of
getting info from cards: this is from Chris Watson, at Silicon Beach
software...
The speed issue comes into play when you are making a LOT of accesses to
information on another card or cards.  If you are, then going to the card
(invisibly) and accessing the data while that card is open and current is
MUCH faster than accessing through SuperTalk descriptors, remotely.  Why? 
Because when you do the latter, the entire card must be read in, the
requested data extracted, and then the whole card is "put away".  Each
iteration, in this case, reads and puts away the whole card each time.  With
the card open and current, massive data access from that card is easier.

-Christopher

Hope this helps...

Dany

__________________________________________________________________________
|Dany Drennan | Interactive Telecommunications Program, NYU | Technology |
|             | aka High School of the Electronic Arts      |is Autonomy |
|____________ | xixax@panix.com <> aolsys!xixax ___________ |____________|
From: by303@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jay L. Cross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Mark message?
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:08:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I need to be able to detect when a user marks or unmarks a card
(or all cards), either from the msg box or from the Card Info
dialog.  I've got a menuItem I need to enable or disable depend-
ing on whether cards are marked or not, and I don't want to use
an idle handler to look for the number of marked cards all the
time.  I've got control of marking and unmarking via custome
search scripts and a "Marked" checkbox, and all works well.  But if
the user types "mark this card", "mark all cards", "unmark..." etc
into the msg box, I've got no mechanism to know about it.
Typing "Mark..." into msg sends "mark", but typing "set the marked..."
sends "set", and checking the marked checkbox in the Card Info
dialog sends nothing.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks very much for the help.

-- 
................................................................
Jay Cross  internet: by303@Cleveland.FreeNet.Edu
   "Nothing like the end of the world to bring a bunch of para-
    noid sociopaths together."  Chris Chance, The Human Target
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Subject: Re: how to measure elapsed time accurately?
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date:  4 Oct 92 10:06:30 GMT

tapp@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca (Bob Tapp) writes:

>I'm trying to use HyperCard scripts to measure the response time of a
>human subject in pressing a keyboard key after seeing a card displayed. 

>For this I need a timer from which the script can determine elapsed time
>to the nearest millisecond. 

"millisecond"?!

A screen redraw takes about 20 milliseconds (minimum). The Mac's internal
clock is plenty accurate, but HyperCard isn't responsive enough to measure
such things this accurately (just write an "on idle..end idle" handler
that pushes a button and see how errative the results are).

>Does anybody know the best solution to this problem on a plain Mac II?

>I'm not sure whether the computer has an internal timer of sufficient
>accuracy that could be accessed via an XCMD, or whether an add-on timer
>circuit would be needed. 

>Thanks.

>Bob Tapp, University of Victoria
>tapp@uvphys.phys.UVic.CA

I think you'll need to either (i) write the response timer software in
something other than HyperCard; or (ii) be satisfied with considerably
less accuracy than milliseconds. I don't even think that the mouse button
justifies such "accuracy". (It's like measuring 400m dashes to the 100th
of a second when the course hasn't been measured to that level of accuacy.)

Tonio Loewald

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From: Simon_Kok@mindlink.bc.ca (Simon Kok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: AppleTalk XCMDs for HyperCard
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:18:18 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Hi there.  I suggest that you contact Rob Eppich at Epsi Computer Systems.
He has developed some networking XCMD and XFCN routines for AppleTalk
networks.

You can contact Rob at 604.589.4412.  Tell him that I sent ya!