HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: laura@micronics.com (Laura Moore)
Subject: Re: bass phone order delayed
Summary: lawn tickets at 10 AM 
Organization: Micronics Computers, Fremont, CA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:03:48 GMT


	...I also was in line at BASS this past Sunday morning. I felt really
	sorry for the people at the front of the line who'd been waiting
	since the night before (and a rainy, windy, shitty-weather night it
	was,too) only to be rewarded with *lawn tickets* for Saturday. I 
	never saw so many bummed-out deadheads in one place before.

	...Personally, I didn't mind that much, since I seem to always 
	have a good time no matter where I end up sitting at Shoreline.
	I don't really mind the lawn (it's a good thing, too).


 Laura E. Moore        					Micronics Computers
 laura@micronics.com   					(415) 651-2300 x271     

 "...the road to Rome IS Rome..."

-- 
 Laura E. Moore        					Micronics Computers
 laura@micronics.com   					Business Systems Group
                         				(415) 651-2300 x271
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: rumors, etc...
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:17:37 GMT
Organization: The Center for Applied Irreverence

In article <1992Apr15.123507.8819@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> dougg@fnma.com writes:
>Gail Edwards writes...
>
>|Hey, I understand it's rumored Bob's been chosen to play the Sea Lion, as
>|that part has no lyrics, just seal sounds, and Bob makes really good seal
>|sounds.  However, his contract contains a contingency clause stating he must

What-me?  Who when asked to identify Bob by her little niece at this past
Atlanta show reportedly replied, "That's Bob.  All the girls love him 'cuz
he's so cute, and all the boys make fun of him 'cuz they're so jealous."
Who in the privacy of her own home has herself been known to practice
making seal noises and balancing a beach ball on the tip of her nose.
But for God's sake, don't go spreading that around.  No one takes me
seriously as it is!  (Hey, do ya think Kesey could use some extras?)  ;-)

Gail
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tomw@astro.umd.edu
Subject: Re: Pay-Per-View
Reply-To: tomw@astro.umd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:24:20 GMT


In article <1992Apr7.013948.2011@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> blayman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bram J Layman) writes:
|having more Pay-Per-View shows.  The main points were that it:
|1)  Would earn revenue for the band and small theater owners who could pay a
|fee to charge admission to watch the show in a group setting (like boxing PPV).

|of being able to have a short journey to a local theater/auditorium to have an
|enjoyable experience with the Grateful Dead (in some sense, I mean it _would_
|be live) and fellow Deadheads in a much, much smaller scale setting than the

i remember a jerry show was ppv some time ago, at a local theater...i think
it was with m.muldaur...anyway, i remember _not_ going because i didn't think
i would enjoy it as much...of course, now i'm kicking myself, 'cause i would
have enjoyed it more than _not_ seeing it at all;-}

so now i think i'd definitely go to a virtual.show, if the sound were as good
as the real.thing(tm;-) ...i usually close my eyes to see anyway;-) virtual
shows would certainly solve a lot of the overcrowding problems, but is it
really the same.thing? i'll ask a friend who did go to the jerry ppv and
post her comments, and i'd like to hear what the rest of you think about
virtual.shows...after all, we're a virtual.community here;-)

c u
tom wible, formerly the air drummer;-)

internet: tomw@astro.umd.edu
ip address: 128.8.251.57
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: You Know You're Deadhead When... (revised)
Followup-To: You Know? 
Keywords: 9/26/91! 
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 18:03:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.175346.21567@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ARFLESZA@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu writes:
>*** You know you're a NETHEAD when... ****
>

>8.  You're still waiting for the 9/26/91 tapes.

And you figure it's OK, you'll just hope it can be added to the
9/26/92 tree:-) :-) :-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: philw@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Philip White)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: fire on the mountain
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:57:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: vice.9393
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1992Apr9.212011.9703@tc.fluke.COM> eris@tc.fluke.COM (Chris Beckmeyer) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.193713.539@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> DSLIVE@brownvm.bitnet writes:
>>Re:  Inquiry concerning Mt. St. Helen's and Fire on the Mountain:  YES.
>>The show was 6/12/80 in Portland and both sets were lots of fun:
>
>the mountain blew in may.

Your'e both correct.  May 18 1980 about 8:30 AM local time St Helens lost
her beautiful rounded peak and about 2500 feet of elevation.  I did not
see it but it defines AWESOME.  I did not hear it but people a lot
farther away than I did; I was 40 miles away.  The sky was dark with
ash east and northeast of St Helens (Yakima, Spokane, etc.) and 2 feet
of ash were in some streets and on some roofs there.
 
Portland was totally unaffected May 18.  I went to a Dead concert at
Portland Memorial Coliseum later that year, must have been that 6-12.
Nice soft sunny weather at 7:30 pm before the show.  Ashfall in the dark
after the show, from a much smaller eruption than 5-18.  I enjoyed the
ashfall but one of my friends there was real worried.  We survived.
 
I later collected about 20-40 lbs of ash from my house's gutters,
deposited by that day's eruption.  12 years later the crater will
still be a hot raw place with little or no snow.
 
watch for falling rocks

      Phil White   Tektronix, Beaverton, OR
USENET:  philip.w.white@tek.COM (formerly philw@vice.ICO.TEK.COM)
 US Mail: Mail Stop 59-432, P.O. Box 500, Beaverton OR 97077-0001
From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Ugly Rumor-mongerers
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:35:06 GMT
Organization: NCAR, Boulder CO

>> = chris@ucselx.sdsu.edu (chris) writes:
>  = wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:

>>Besides, if we all really cared we'd openly discus the situation and its
>>merits instead of sticking our pointed little heads in the sand.
>
>	I hear that Chris Lemaire is shooting smack again.  It's only
>a rumor, but because I really care about Chris and I don't want to see
>him destroy his life [...]

Sorry Wharfie, 
you gave an example of an OBVIOUS low-down lying smear, which is unlike
the rumor talk COULD EASILY BE real concern over *possible* problems.  
After all, this is r.m.gdead, and it wouldn't be the first time someone
had this problem.  Unfortunately, there's probably no way to confirm or 
dismiss the rumor, unless, of course, somebody dies (it wouldn't be the 
first time for this either).


-Brian
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: JAL <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Vegas Taper Tickets
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:07:55 GMT

Taper tickets for Vegas seem to be a hard-to-come-by commodity. I've heard
that other people had problems getting them too. Anybody have any extras???? 
I got regular tickets (since I said "will accept anything"), but I was shut 
out of tapers (for the first time ever :-().

-Jeff Lester
From: mjk@sei.cmu.edu (Mary Jane Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: star lake
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:04:00 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute

In article <2703@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>
>	How close is this place to Pittsburgh?  After 1989 I swore I'd
>never attend another show in Pittsburgh unless the mayor gave me the
>keys to the city and Phil promised he'd play Pride of Cucamonga.  Is it
>in Pittsburgh the way Red Rocks was in Morrison, or is it in Pittsburgh
>the way MSG is in New York?
>								wr

Hmmm... I myself have never been there, but I have seen pictures of it
and it does look similar to Deer Creek Ampitheatre... a reserved section 
then a nice lawn and it is shaped the same, too.

One thing I remember when they first opened the venue was that folks
complained about the traffic.  It was my impression that the road to 
Starlake was 2 lanes and it took a LONG time to get to the lots.  Anyone
have experience here?  

As far as proximity to the city, it definitely not in Pittsburgh.  I 
haven't ever been to Red Rocks, so I cannot compare.  My guess is that it
is in a much more "country" setting.  My roommate and I are planning to
go to the shows and were even considering camping for the heck of
it even though we live in Pittsburgh.  So if I come across any other
good details I'll share them with y'all:)

Yeah!!!  They are returning!!!

M.J. Kelly
mjk@sei.cmu.edu

"Rings on her fingers and bells on her shoes..."
"One, two, three... Take a step back!"
______________________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: BONNIE%CEVAX2@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
Subject: NPC
Reply-To: BONNIE%CEVAX2@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:40:36 GMT

Ellen Buckley (Hey, Ellen!) wrote about New Potato Caboose
as one of the smaller dead-type bands.  They have a mailing
list but they're not to great at keeping up with it, so I 
can't list the dates, but if you ever hear that they're 
playing near you, GO SEE THEM.  They do some covers (no dead
anymore, maybe trying to shake the image?) like CSN and Little
Feat, etc.  but it's their originals that really rock!  They 
also have an album called Promising Traveler, which is 1/2
studio, 1/2 live.  Fun and dancey stuff!

                                      Bonnie
From: sramirez@pima.intel.com (Steve Ramirez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: D. Hicks/ G. Keillor
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:45:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intel Corp, Chandler, AZ


-----------------------------------------------
Who:   Dan Hicks & Acoustic Warriors
When:  Sat, April 11  3-5pm
Where: Berkeley Community Theatre
What:  LIVE NPR Braodcast w/Garrison Keillor's
       "American Radio Company"
Why:   Just Because 
-----------------------------------------------

--
Want to join a Dan Hicks   #  Dan's mailing list:  #    Net Mailing list:
mailing list? Send e-mail  #        Dan Hicks      #      Steve Ramirez 
to me or send your US Mail #      P.O. Box 5481    #sramirez@sedona.intel.com 
address to Dan.            # Mill Valley, CA 94942 #     (602) 554 - 2405
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay)
Subject: Re: New hotline message-summer tour
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 07:49:36 GMT


>Could someone please post a confirmation of this information?

West Coast Hotline confirms the dates and places listed, but offers no
offers no additional information.  As of this posting, East Coast hot
hotline rings and ring s s s and ringsssss....
:-)
FWIW,
Eric N
-- 
Eric Nay  2430 Drexel St., Vienna VA  22180
bs810@cleveland.freenet.edu       "Life is Happenin'"
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: JAL <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Tour dates, confirmed and RUMOURED
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:45:21 GMT

Mail-order for rest of summer tour (Charlotte through Buckeye) is Tuesday
April 14th.

***************************************************************************
As a service to the net and to cut down on all the traffic from people 
asking for tour dates, I volunteer to post a tour schedule (confirmed
and rumoured) on a weekly or so basis. I have no rumour input other than
what comes across the net. If you want to correct or add to the rumours,
please email me at lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com.

****************
Confirmed Dates:
****************

May 19,20,21	Cal Expo Amphitheatre
		Sacramento, CA		Bass: now
May 23,24,25	Shoreline Amphitheatre
		Mountain View, CA	Bass: April 12th
May 29,30,31	UNLV Silver Bowl
		Las Vegas, Nevada	Bass, Ticketmaster: April 12th

June 6		Rich Stadium		Mail-order: April 7th
		Buffalo, NY		Ticketmaster: May 2
June 8,9	Richfield Coliseum	Mail-order: April 7th
		Richfield, OH
June 11,12	Knickerbocker Arena
		Albany, NY		Ticketmaster: May 9
June 14,15	Giants Stadium		Mail-order: April 7th
		East Rutherford, NJ
June 17,18	Charlotte Colisuem	Mail-order: April 14
		Charlotte, NC		Ticketmaster: May 16
June 20		RFK Stadium		Mail-order: April 14
		Washington DC		Ticketmaster: May 16
June 22,23	Starlake Amphitheatre	Mail-order: April 14
		Pittsburgh, PA		Ticketmaster: May 23
June 25,26	Soldier Field		Mail-order: April 14
		Chicago, IL		Ticketmaster: May 16
June 28,29	Deer Creek Amphitheatre Mail-order: April 14
		Noblesville, IN		Ticketmaster: May 30
July 1		Buckeye Music Center    Mail-order: April 14
		Hebron, OH		Ticketmaster: May 30

Jerry Garcia Band:
April 25	San Jose State Events Center On sale now @ Bass
April 29,30
May 1,2,3	Warfield Theater, SF	On sale now @ Bass

Jerry Garcia/David Grisman:
May 7,8,9,10,11	WUCTIONS arfield Theater, SF	On sale now @ Bass
 

***************
RUMOURED DATES:
***************
--------------------------------
August 22,23	Eugene, OR
August 28,29,30	Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA
--------------------------------
Fall East:
Sept. 10,11,12	The Capital Center, Landover, MD
Sept. 14,15	The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA
Sept. 17,18,19 &
Sept. 21,22,23	Madison Square Garden, New York City, NY
Sept. 25,26,27 &
Sept. 29,30	Boston Garden, Boston, MA
--------------------------------

-Jeff Lester
**************************************************************************
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:17:15 EDT
From: <MAH76X@ROHVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Why Taping is being restricted...

In article <1992Apr15.135407.13627@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com says:
>put my asbestos flame suit on.  There, now I feel better.  Its my firm belief
>that further restrictions on taping with the eventual elimination of taping
>"rights" will happen on way or another.  Here's why:  The Dead's touring
>schedule will be substantially reduced soon enough.  The Dead's CORPORATION'S
>profits need to be maintained one way or another.  IF there are less shows
>to bring in the profits, then recordings seem like an obvious source of
>revenue.If you've got good tapes of the shows for free, why would you buy
>them.
>Get my point?

I think a lot of us, would buy perfect discs of shows that we already had
killer tapes of.  Look at OfTV.  I had killer tapes of that show before the
disc came out.  Then, when I bought the disc (AT THE FIRST CHANCE POSSIBLE)
I found out that my tapes weren't really all that good ;-).  I would love to
find that my 10/16/89 boards aren't all that good, by having them release that
on disc ;-) ;-) ;-).

Joe Doheny
From: bmasel@igc.org (Ben Masel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: POTHEAD'S MESSAGE TO CLINTON
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:12:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: igc.1456400055
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1456400055:000:978
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!bmasel    Apr  7 23:12:00 1992


IT'S OK, I DIDN'T INHALE

I 've just returned from the Clinton victory party here in
Madison.

Arrived sort of late, missed the TV crews, but the stunt was still
interesting. Lit up a joint and all the suits fled the room.
Couple of the younger Clinton fans and the volunteer coordinator
stuck around to hear a message I hope will be delivered. Told them
unless Bill admits he enjoyed the pot he didn't inhale, we will
collect the 2,000 signatures to put Jack Herer on the Wisconsin
Ballot as a Grassroots Party candidate for President in November.
Reminded them I had recieved 13,000 votes in my Republican primary
race for Governor in 1990, and that those 13,000 could be their
margin of victory or defeat in this state in November.

This stunt is repeatable. Show up at his HQ or a local function
carrying only 1 joint. Fire it up, blow some smoke around the
room. Say "It's OK, I didn't inhale." Leave a printed message.
Post an account to talk.pol.drugs.

Enjoy, Ben Masel
From: blayman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bram J Layman)
Subject: Favorite Space Threa
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:25:44 GMT

In Article 42445, Shwa said:

>Hi ho --
>Zack asked about favorite Space jams.  My favorite Space is in one of my
>favorite second sets:  6/24/85 Riverbend, OH.  The Iko, the Smokestack and the
>He's Gone are phenomenal, and the Space just takes me away to far off lands --
>weird lands, I might add.  If you have the opportunity -- I did ;-) -- put
>this tape on, crank up the volume as loud as possible, and just let go.  True,
>I was in a somewhat altered state of mind, but I ended up in the Scottish
>highlands, watching some cute farm animals wander by.  The chickens were
>especially feathery.

I, too, love this space, this set, this entire show!  It was my first show
*and* I had a front row seat on Phil's side :-} :-}.  Ah, the "good old days"
when you could be the first in line at a TicketTron  outlet and score a front
row seat!

Anyhoo, it seems the boys stopped into a toy shop that day, because they had a
lot of swell sound-effect-producing toys up there.  Bob has a toy ray gun with
several different sound effect settings he was switching thru.  Someone else
was honking one of those bicycle horns with the black bulb you squeeze, and
there was one of those things you turn upside-down and it makes a "moo" sound
being "played" into a mic.  Way, way cool.  Now my memories are bleeding
together ("it all rolls into one") but I'm pretty sure this was also the show
where Bob quips something along the lines of "Durring the break were going to
hold a raffle and the lucky winner of this raffle gets to hold the rhythm
section hostage" before Healy's fucking with the sound makes it uninteligible.

And as Shwa mentions the Aiko was too cool.  It was *pouring* down rain and
after the break they were tuning up when a massive bolt of lightning caused a
very loud thunderclap (*clearly* audible on my audience tape, but not on the
soundboard) and a big cheer went up for the thunder.  Immediately they kicked
into a rocking Aiko.  I've got a funny newspaper article somewhere about some
guy who got arrested after the show for rolling around nude in a giant
mudpuddle in the lot.  I passed a lot of people, in various states of undress,
doing this in one big puddle on my way out.  (Oh...better flameproof myself and
say that it's not too "funny" for the guy who got nailed, but the article said
they let him off light :-})

Anyway, sorry for the rambling sentimentality, but I hope it was a pleasant
alternative to the flamewars....

Bram
From: hessong@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Brian Hessong)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Wrong Rat
Keywords: No, No, No!
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:34:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44370
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

>>Rich "The No Drugs Guy"
>>--    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>			   |
>			   |
>
>   I'm glad for you Rich but keep it to your self, please!
>
>   I won't try to push my ways on you, if you don't try to push yours
>   on me.

Lighten up there, Todd! For the life of me, I can't see where Rich is
"pushing his ways" on anybody. 

Just my 2 cents.

Brian "The Other No Drugs Guy"

Flameproof: Not saying I haven't tried a few in my younger days, just
a personal choice. I'm still entitled to my freedom of choice, I hope.
From: janderso@procyon.intel.com (Jim Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Now...the rest of the story.
Keywords: Las Vegas
Date: 1 Apr 92 16:50:03 GMT
Reply-To: janderso@smdvx1.intel.com (Jim "Beam" Anderson)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA


Bad news folks...

I was talking with a guy I know that is close to the Boys.  He told
me that a few of the rumors that have been floating around
are true, but  distorted.  This is what will be coming up.

The rumor/idea of having a "Deadland" venue, where the Dead
will play at one location is going to happen, however, not
as we would have expected.  The Dead will be moving
to Las Vegas and will become a regular Vegas act ala Wayne Newton!
This is supposed to happen sometime early next year.

I asked this guy, in disbelief, what had gotten into 
the Boys heads.  He told me that since most of them are
at or near 50 years old now, they felt it was time to 
put themselves "out to pasture".  But, since they 
still wanted to play, they would go down the well beaten
path that other "older" performers had by becoming a
lounge lizard act.  He wouldn't tell me which casino
they would be playing at, but did say that for
the first month they would be playing for free so that
the normal Las Vegas crowd might wonder into the show
and "get hooked".  

This is too weird for me.  I was wondering out loud
how the show may change.  The guy said that it wouldn't
change...much.

Most everything you are use to now will be the same.  Although
the band refuses to wear those strange reflective and/or
sequined suits so popular down there, the guy said
that Jerry and Bobby would wear a number of scarfs, which
they would wipe some sweat off of their faces with, then hand
them to people in the crowd.

The guy said that the lights would be run by a computer that is
running one of Candice's programs, but since the setlist would
be defined, and fixed for one week periods, she wouldn't have
to be at the shows to run the lights.  All she would have to 
do would be to send in a new program that fit the following weeks
set list, which would have been sent to her the week before.  

They are going to have setlists written down over two weeks
before the shows!!???!!?????!?!

Healy will be there for most of the shows, but his main function
will be to record the show which *will* be sold in the lobby
the next week (I don't know if all of the shows will be for sale, or
if they will pick the best of the week, since the shows will all be
the same.).

Since they will rarely, if ever, go on the road again, the road crew
has for the most part been given their walking papers. I guess a few
of the technicians will be kept to maintain the equipment.

I don't know about you folks, but I don't like this.  I don't
like it *ONE LITTLE BIT*!!!!  I'll be dammed if I'm going
to go down there and see these guys decay into oblivion.  Forget it.
I've got my tapes and a couple of videos.  As far as I'm concerned
The Grateful Dead is!



And have a happy April 1, 1992

Jim "Beam" Anderson

"Heaven help the fool!"
janderso@smdvx1.intel.com

"With out love in the dream it will never come true."