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From: leif@ifm.liu.se (Leif Hedstrom)
Newsgroups: gnu.gnusenet.test
Subject: test
Summary: test
Keywords: test
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:11:33 GMT
Organization: Dept of Physics, University of Linkoping

Just Testing ;-)

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From: leifh@isy.liu.se (Leif Hedstr|m)
Newsgroups: gnu.gnusenet.test
Subject: Test
Summary: Test (from isy)
Keywords: Test
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:27:44 GMT
Organization: Dept of EE, University of Linkoping

Just a test (sorry)
From: ceturc@asdrs1.monsanto.com (Charles Turco)
Newsgroups: gnu.gnusenet.test
Subject: Re: j
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:14:57 GMT
Organization: Monsanto Agricultural Company

test
From: ceturc@asdrs1.monsanto.com (Charles Turco)
Newsgroups: gnu.gnusenet.test
Subject: Re: j
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:13:03 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Monsanto Agricultural Company

test
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: jennings@lhotse.stortek.com (Jeff Jennings)
Subject: glibc - how to build
Originator: jennings@lhotse.stortek.com
Keywords: glibc  
Organization: Storage Tek
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:13:01 GMT

Ok, I give up.  How do you build this thing?  I have glibc 1.02 and 1.03,
gcc 2.1, gnu make 3.62, on a sparc 2 running SunOS 4.1.2, and I can't get
the sucker to build.  I run "configure sun4".  I have to remove the
-fcombine-regs from Makeconfig, since this is no longer supported on 
gcc 2.1.  I then run "make ARCH=sun4".

Results are as follows:

for glibc-1.02:
	the make runs for a long time, but every "ar" command fails with
	the .o file not found.

	all the .o files get built in their respective directories, but
	none get added to libc.a.

for glibc-1.03:
	i created this using the patch file for glibc-1.02 -> 1.03.  i used
	gnu patch 2.0 patchlevel 12u6.  the make fails immediatley with
	the message "Makerules: 273: multiple targets" or something like
	that.

So, can anyone help me out here?  What else do I need to do?  Has anyone
actually built this sucker?

Thanks for any help.

- jeff

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Iceberg - LSVL 2A      | can assume it will be pretty bad. -- Dave Barry
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy)
Subject: Re: How will man pages be stored under GNU?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:16:11 GMT

Daniel T. Poirot writes:
#I have TeX and LaTeX working and even attempted building TeXinfo, but
#getting a working TeX system is not for the casual user.

Getting a working GNU system will not be for the casual user. 

I suspect that *SOMEONE* will be selling CDROMS containing a complete
working system for the novices.



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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell)
Subject: Re: How will man pages be stored under GNU?
Organization: Free Software Foundation, Cambridge, MA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:26:42 GMT


The GNU manuals will be in texinfo format, with a
conversion/installation program for adding tmac.an format manuals.

	-mib
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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: wjin@cs.uh.edu (Woochang Jin)
Subject: gnu FINGER for Ultrix ???
Originator: wjin@climax
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:55:10 GMT


If you succeeded in running gnu-finger on Ultrix (DEC workstations),
could you let me know the tricks ?
In our system,  gnu finger works fine on SUN workstations (like others :-) ).
DEC/Ultrix is *always* the problem ( :-( ).

Thanks, in advance.

------
W. Jin
From: mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: How will man pages be stored under GNU?
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:37:20 GMT
	<1992Apr15.182147.14146@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Free Software Foundation, Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Apr15.182147.14146@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> poirot@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel T. Poirot) writes:

   How about people who want access to the GNU texinfo-style manuals, but
   don't want to have to learn how to use EMACS or TeX to get a printout.

Once again, the choice of storage medium is orthogonal to the choice
of access program.  The Info system is improving, and will eventually
include a standalone info reader and a simple `man' style shell
command. 

   I would like to see each of the GNU utilities that has a texinfo manual
   also include a .dvi file or a PostScript file so we can at least have a
   shot at getting a hard copy.

This is a possibility, but manuals are big; and a dvi file is even
bigger.  Keep in mind that the manuals are available from the FSF.
They are nicely bound (the latest crop all use stay-flat bindings);
and generally cost less than if you printed them yourself.

--
Michael Innis Bushnell    | The Lord God helps me;
Email: mib@gnu.ai.mit.edu |   therefore I have not been disgraced;
Phone (H) +1 617 625 4518 | therefore I have set my face like flint,
Phone (W) +1 617 253 8568 |   and I know that I shall not be put to shame;
			  | he who vindicates me is near.
From: abraham@iesd.auc.dk (Per Abrahamsen)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU Lint?
Date: 5 Apr 92 11:37:26 GMT
	<1992Apr3.182448.1894@cc.gatech.edu> <0=ljpdm.jsteele@netcom.com>
Organization: HUGIN Expert A/S


>>>>> On 3 Apr 92 19:43:38 GMT, jsteele@netcom.com (John Steele) said:

In <1992Apr3.182448.1894@cc.gatech.edu> arnold@cc.gatech.edu (Arnold
Robbins) writes:

>GCC does most of what lint does.  At least one exception is
>cross-file checking.  GCC won't catch a function declared one way in
>one file and defined another way in another file.

John> Which is basically what lint was designed for, no?  There are
John> many decent ANSI compilers with good error-checking, but NONE of
John> them can replace lint because of this simple fact...

See the "-Wmissing-prototypes" option.  Cross-file checking of
function declarations is no longer necessary.
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: entropy@oconnor (Lawrence C Foard)
Subject: OCR software
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:43:51 GMT

Is there any GNU licensed, or free OCR software available in C? I may soon
have a need for OCR and would like to avoid proprietary stuff if at all
possible. If there is nothing of that sort what commercial packages would
people recommend?

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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: tower@ai.mit.edu (Leonard H. Tower Jr.)
Subject: HP-UX public domain software (update #1)
Reply-To: tower@prep.ai.mit.edu
Organization: Project GNU, Free Software Foundation,
    675 Massachusetts Ave., Cambridge, MA  02139, USA   +1 (617) 876-3296
Distribution: gnu
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:02:58 GMT

   Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 03:49:21 GMT
   From: dgawley@sirius.uvic.ca (Dave  Gawley)

   In article <^#@byu.edu>, gritton@alaska.caedm.byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) writes:
   |> I guess if you want to keep the politicos happy, you'll have to call
   |> your FTP collection "Public Domain and/or Gnu Public License."
   |> --
   |> James Gritton - gritton@byu.edu - I disclaim

   How about the term "public access software"?

   -- 
	   David.Gawley@ME.UVic.CA

"Freely Redistributable Software" covers it.

enjoy -len
From: eric14@postgres.uucp (Eric Baldeschwieler)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: A gcc & a gdb question
Date: 7 Apr 92 08:10:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: pasteur.1992Apr7.081057.13678
Reply-To: eric14@konsys.tik.ethz.ch (Eric Baldeschwieler)
Organization: ETHZ


GCC - I would like to use gcc -Wall, but part of my code is generated by
another application (ANDREW - class) which defines lots of unused
static variables.  Is there a pragma that I can use to suppress
warnings on these variables by name?  With other Cs one can say
#pragma unused(foo)


GDB - I am trying to debug dynamically loaded code, but can not set
breakpoints in it until it is has been loaded, which tends to be too
late.  Is there a library function that I can compile into my code
that causes a debugger trap?  I think I've seen this before, but can
not find this function (It might be called something like debugger()).
Currently I'm working around this by making unneeded calls to other
library functions like printf which I can trap, but...


Sorry, if this is the wrong place for this, but my site does not seem
to have many gnu bb's.  If there is a better place for this I'd be
glad to learn of it.
From: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Jan B Larsen)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: od.c source
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:59:18 GMT
Reply-To: jblst5@icarus.lis.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh



Is there a GNU-version of the od-command? Where can I get it?

- Jan

Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell)
Subject: Re: Money and free programs...
Organization: Free Software Foundation, Cambridge, MA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:34:42 GMT

In article <1632@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes:

   I am working on a program that I want to distribute under the GNU
   license. But I would like to put in a statement a la:

	   "if you like this program and you would like to pay a small
   amount for it to show that, please do so"

   In fact, a begging statement. not unlike shareware, but this
   program will be distributed in source and if people would send
   money, they would do that because they are kind and not because
   they get something for it.

   I'd like to ditribute with the GNU license, but I also like the
   idea that my efforts would possibly be rewarded financially.

   ????

What's the problem?  The FSF says just this in much of its software.

	-mib
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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: tpc@bnr.ca (Thomas P. Chmara)
Subject: GNU Make 3.62 and CVSII V1.0
Keywords: confusing
Reply-To: tpc@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 20:04:27 GMT

I'm trying to use GNU Make to avoid having to generate (and re-generate, and..)
entire source farms when I'm trying to build an image (the image in question
is in multiple subdirectories; I generate a series of libraries from which I
build the executable).  To that end, I'm directing the Makefile to use the
CVS repository if the source file(s) is/are not in the current directory or in
VPATH.

RCS is lots like CVS, but not exactly the same; CVS checks out the source file
into its "proper" place in the hierarchy, so I had to kludge that one:

% :: %,v
	$(CO) $(COFLAGS) $(addprefix farmname/subdir/, $@ )
	mv $(addprefix farmname/subdir/, $@ ) $@

It actually works fine, because GNU Make tries to delete intermediate files,
which it thinks exist in the current directory.  And now, does :-)

Well, works fine *most* of the time.  If I have another target in the same
Makefile, it *doesn't delete the .c files*; i.e. it does

rm -f <filename1>.o <filename2>.o <filename3>.o

rather than

rm -f <filename1>.o <filename2>.o <filename2>.c <filename1>.c <filename3>.o
<filename3>.c

Any ideas?  I found this one by trying to use makedepend to generate
a dependency list for header files in other directories:  the header files
were checked out fine, but the header files and .c files were not deleted.
I kept trying different combinations, and found that the target library has
to be the only entry in the Makefile.  It may be that it only needs to be the
*last* entry; I haven't tried that combination yet.

Does this problem sound familiar to anyone?  Any workarounds or solutions?

My platform is a HP9000/345 running HP-UX 8.0.

Thanks..
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From: jshumate@wrdis01.af.mil (Shumate Jason)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Just curious.: "The Barbi Twins (TM) are the GNU Emacs of women."
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:03:50 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB

In article <9204081607.AA18673@ds5200.local>, ishikawa@ds5200. (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:
> I just saw the phrase the subject line in someone's signature in net.admin.
> 
> 	The Barbi Twins (TM) are the GNU Emacs of women.
> 
> As an ardent user of GNU Emacs, and a student of English, I am just
> curious what it means. I tried to conctact the poster
> mike@vort.cuc.ab.ca, but my mail bounced.

I saw this today, so what the heck, I'll try to answer it.  The Barbi Twins
have nothing to do with the doll Barbie.  The Barbi Twins are models here
in the US of A and they are called by that name because they are blond and
thin and thus look somewhat like Barbie.  I would guess that the original
poster is trying to say that he likes the Barbi Twins a lot, just like he
likes emacs a lot.  What a strange comparison, though.  I can just see it
now - George Bush, the GNU GCC of presidents; Kevin Costner, the GNU GDB of
actors, etc.  The possibilities are endless.......  By the way, your English
was fine - I had no trouble understanding what you were asking.
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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: julian@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Julian Cowley)
Subject: Re: How will man pages be stored under GNU?
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:23:21 GMT

In article <MIB.92Apr16093720@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu> mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.182147.14146@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> poirot@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Daniel T. Poirot) writes:
>
>   How about people who want access to the GNU texinfo-style manuals, but
>   don't want to have to learn how to use EMACS or TeX to get a printout.
>
>Once again, the choice of storage medium is orthogonal to the choice
>of access program.  The Info system is improving, and will eventually
>include a standalone info reader and a simple `man' style shell
>command. 

That sounds great.  Will each of the separate programs use the
same master file or will a manual writer have to write N
different synopses, references, and tutorials?
From: boris@math10.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Boris Hemkemeier)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Gnu shirts and stickers?
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:57:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Bielefeld, Germany

In article <ST11W.92Apr7094957@menudo.uh.edu> st11w@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis Gray Jr.) writes:

> Does anyone have an address (internet or otherwise) for someone who
> can sell a Gnu T-shirt?  I would like to get the one with the NO
> circle over "UNIX", but also I'd like to know what else is availible.

Wow, a GNU T-shirt, that would be a thing. Great idea!

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From: jym@sybase.com (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: How will man pages be stored under GNU?
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:25:06 GMT
	<199204151459.AA26338@trantor.uvm.edu>
Distribution: gnu
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
In-reply-to: wollman@trantor.uvm.edu's message of 15 Apr 92 06:59:35 GMT

> I think it's time for the GNU project to face up to the fact
> that Info and the UNIX Manual are two very different birds
> indeed, and it makes no sense to pretend otherwise. . . .
> When I use the UNIX manual, I want to see---quickly---the
> information that I need to use a specific program or function.

=o= Info nodes have indexes.  Some years ago, before I really
even knew any of the nuances of elisp, I wrote a function that
used those indexes to look up a routine entry in the current
buffer and give you an Info window on that routine.

=o= I'm quite sure the same can be done with program names.
(Wow, imagine using that from shell mode!)

=o= The point being:  Info nodes, when dealt with creatively,
can be even handier than man pages.
    <_Jym_>
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: nevin@cowardlylion.cis.ohio-state.edu (Nick)
Subject: Re: Just curious.: "The Barbi Twins (TM) are the GNU Emacs of women."
Originator: nevin@cowardlylion.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State University, Computer and Information Science
Distribution: gnu
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:04:37 GMT

 >    > I hear that they have Japanized the Barbi dolls by making
 >    > it slender or something.
 > 
 >    =o= Barbie is already impossibly slender!  What did they do,
 >    remove all her internal organs??? :-)
 >        <_Jym_>
 > 

I think they just decreased her bust size by removing some of the
silicon!

---nick.
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From: calyx.corp@mixcom.mixcom.com (calyx.corp)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Installing GNU tools on non-Sun/BSD platforms
Keywords: GNU, RCS, platforms
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:56:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Apr07.235640.11049
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

Regarding GNU CVS 3.0 on various platforms, I can't even get it to compile
on Unix System V 3.2.  The makefile is self-modifying, generating
dependency information using the BSD/Sun -M option to cc, for which
no equivalent exists in the standard SVR3 development kits.

Do I have to get GNU's gcc just to compile RCS on SVR3 (without spending
days hacking at the makefile)?  I've noticed that other GNU tools such
as make and RCS required GNU's diff and grep to perform efficiently;
each also required alloca.c, which does not exist on SCO Xexix 2.3.2
and had located and to be downloaded separately.  It's tolerable to
have to tweak makefiles and header files while installing a tool; it's
unacceptable to find that it can't be installed without first retrieving
and installing other non-standard files and tools first.

Similar problems exist trying to format the documentation included with
GNU tools.  They have usually been in either troff of Tex format.  While
troff is standard Unix, the ms macro package is hosed on our system,
so they don't format correctly.  For the documentation in Tex format --
it's ridiculous to have to get one GNU tool just to install another one.
The documentation would be much more portable if it were preprocessed
into an 80x66 ascii format, suitable for reading on a dumb terminal or
printing on a 9-pin dot matrix printer.  We would like to review the
documentation before installing each tool, to see if it is even worth it.

Our company would like to use many GNU tools, but the installation process
for many of them is taking so long, that in some cases we could have
actually saved money by buying commercial tools that are easier to install.

I am trying to install most GNU tools on my system -- does anyone know
what order to install them in, since many of the installation makefiles
require the presence of other GNU tools?

Nels Olsen
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From: refson@castle.ed.ac.uk (Keith Refson)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: glibc - how to build
Keywords: glibc
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:56:12 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

jennings@lhotse.stortek.com (Jeff Jennings) writes:

>Ok, I give up.  How do you build this thing?  I have glibc 1.02 and 1.03,

[ description of build problems and configuration deleted]

I would very much like to know if anyone has succeeded in building it too.
I have tried every version from 1.0 to 1.02 on a Sparc II with gcc 2.0
and have had no success.  Examples of the problems include failures to
compile in the the file for the "Antarctica" timezone and
incompatibilities in external declarations between the POSIX and other
headers.  

I too would very much like to know if anyone has succeeded in building
it with this configuration and how they got it to work.  Of course if
everyone else has no problem and it's just something I am doing wrong,
then I would like to know that too!

Keith Refson

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From: ishikawa@ds5200. (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Subject: Just curious.: "The Barbi Twins (TM) are the GNU Emacs of women."
Reply-To: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp
Organization: GNUs Not Usenet
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:07:32 GMT


Hello.

I just saw the phrase the subject line in someone's signature in net.admin.

	The Barbi Twins (TM) are the GNU Emacs of women.

As an ardent user of GNU Emacs, and a student of English, I am just
curious what it means. I tried to conctact the poster
mike@vort.cuc.ab.ca, but my mail bounced.

I can't believe Barbi Twins have something common with Emacs. Or does
it mean they are too big (that is what some people say hear about
Barbi dolls, and I hear that they have Japanized the Barbi dolls by
making it slender or something.)? (Forgive me if the meaning is
crystal clear, maybe my English is not so good.)

Just curious.

Happy hacking.

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