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From:         "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny"
              <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Peter Gabriel Revisited

About three weeks ago I mentioned reading an article from the local newspaper
which stated that there would be a new Peter Gabriel album with "rare" tracks
from the 70s. Much to my dismay it appears to be the SOS.

-Adam
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From: sheridan@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Matthew Sheridan)
Subject: PG Revisited Track Listing
To: gabriel@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Peter Gabriel Mailing List)

>Guys, don't go rushing out to buy this.  As said (somewhere) before,
>it's just a bunch of the songs from his first two albums.  It's
>released under Atlantic (I guess they're just trying to wring a few
>more bucks out of Peter's name).  The track listing is:
>
>1. On The Air
>2. Modern Love
>3. Indigo
>4. Solsbury Hill
>5. Perspective
>6. Waiting for the Big One
>7. Animal Magic
>8. Humdrum
>9. D.I.Y.
>10. Mother of Violence
>11. Slowburn
>12. Exposure
>13. Moribund the Burgermeister
>14. Flotsam and Jetsam
>15. Here Comes the Flood
>
>  Total running time: 62:05
>
>Note: These are exactly the same versions as on the original albums!
>There is nothing at all new here.  Granted, there are three cool
>pictures of Peter and a musician listing for the various songs ... but
>that's all.
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L.W. said:

   I hate to say this , but Daron is right on this one if you'd like the
   chapter
   and verse i'll supply it. I don't want to sound like i'm Gay bashing, but
   from
   birth we are attracted to the opposite sex, all of nature is this way,
   birds
   bees, all the animals. So IMHO if you are gay there are some crossed wires
   somewhere......Apologies to any one who may be offened, but it's just my
   opinion and my opinion is not law, so take it with a grain of salt...L.W.

     To use Nature as a model in this argument is suspect.  Same sex
orientation is not the only difference between man and the animals in nature.
Take for instance -- Reason and the ability to use (or not use) reason toward
violence, compassion and understanding (or toward the destruction of Nature).
Man had begun to remove himself from the natural model when he developed
Reason.  Same-sex orientation has probably been around that long (at least
since the beginning of recorded history).  Dogs and many other animals by the
way are not really all that discriminating.
     To use the Bible as a defense of any argument is even more suspect.  To
say *I believe it because I learned it from the Bible and I can prove it
because the Bible says it is true* is what is known as a closed system.  It
is self-serving and necessarily (intentionally?) excludes any opposing
argument.  Does this mean the term *Christian Scholar* is an oxymoron?  No,
but understand that the Christian arguement only holds water for those other
christians that believe that the Bible is the source of all (or any) truth.

   --Richard

     "This first thing one must do in life is to assume a pose.  What the
second second thing is, no one has yet determined."  Oscar Wilde.
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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Recommendation for opera-phobes et al.

> Last night I rented a video of P.D.Q. Bach's The Abduction of Figaro.

Rick , once again you amaze me with your range of tastes. PDQ is one of my
favorites too. i have yet to see _Abduction_, but I have read about it in
_The Definitive Biography of PDQ Bach_ (by Schikele, of course). I'd love
to see it - where did you rent it from? Is it the kind of thing I could
find in Blockbuster, or did you need a specialty store?

> And if you're a devoted and knowledgable follower, like dear Marsha, then
>you'll get all the puns and references and appreciate it on a higher level,
>chuckling understandably throughout the whole piece.

Well, thank you! I don't know how knowledgeable I am, but I'm glad that you
enjoy our chit-chat....
>   P.D.Q. Bach always scores high on my personal Laff-o-Meter. In this work
>he breaks the damn thing.

I got into PDQ when my chorus in college did "My Bonnie Lass She Smelleth"
for our annual Madrigal Dinner. It took us two months of practice to be
able to sing it all the way through without chuckling, laughing, guffawing,
falling on the floor...etc. A friend of mine did a large paper in her 20th
century music class on PDQ's "half-act" opera, _The Stoned Guest_. I didn't
get to see it, but I read the "libretto" and heard a song or two...My
laff-o-meter hasn't been the same since. 9Where do you get one fixed,
anyway?)
If you really like his stuff, try to get a copy of the abovementioned
(lawyer, here I come!) book. It's a great companion piece!

>   So try to rent it if you can, and send me your remarks. I'll take personal
>responsibility if you don't like it.
>
I'll second that emotion. PDQ is a must listen for any real fan or phobe.

Enjoy!

Marsha "Thusnelda" Ferziger
From: CC29@IONA.BITNET (Ilia)
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On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:06:52
  "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny" said about Pink Floyd
nine CD box set:

 >I plan on picking this up for three reasons:
 >
 >1) The b-sides disc will be the first time that all these songs will
 >be available (legally) on CD. Relics hasn't been issued on CD.
 >
 >2) All of the discs (except M.L.O.R.) are newly digitally mastered.   fully
 >Hope that damn popping noise at the beginning of "Comfortably Numb"   one.
 >will be gone.
 >I've heard that the Syd-era remasters sound excellent.

Well, you know, I am kinda cautious about those remastered things. I
guess, once I hear the music, I get very conservative about the way
it should sound. When I was about 11 years old, my father bought a first
tape player and taped some early Beatles. Of course, quite soon I took
over the precious machine and was listening to that stuff all day long.
Needless to say that the quality was horrible: whoever was the
manufacturer of that device totally neglected Soviet people's need
to hear high and low frequencies. So, the whole thing sounded kinda like
it was played through the phone. Couple years later, when I got a chance
to hear _Please, Please Me_ on CD, my first urge was to cut the bass
and treble. It just didn't sound right! Now, I am not saying that
playing a bad quality tape on the old russian tape player is any better
than using a SONY CD-player. My point is that in some cases a better
sound clarity and a higher signal-to-noise ratio do not increase one's
pleasure from listening to a piece. I think, Syd-era music is such
a case. Anyway, if the musical industry keeps remastering every
single band it puts on CD, one day we will see a blank tape labeled
something like: "Velvet Underground. Digitally remastered to reduce
noise." :)

                Ilia.
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I find it interesting that you include this list on the net-
work.  Is this mainly for people traveling in Germany and may
want to check out a show?  If so, you may want to also include
where they can purchase tickets.  Just a thought.  I wish I
could go back there for a visit.  I had a great time the two
years I lived there as a military brat.
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Subject: Re: More Italian rhymes and a multi-ethnic beer session :)
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:01:21 GMT
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Marsha says:

>MArco, did someone tell you to try? I'ts commonly known that there are no
>rhymes to orange - at least not in English common usage...I hope you
>haven't spent too much time pondering this!

        Heh, nice point. No, nobody told me to try - I needed that in one
of my lyrics. I guess I'll have to change fruit... :)

OMC: The new music list R-MUSIC, which was started some days ago, got me as
     a subscriber for not more than three days. If someone says that the noise
     level here is high, I'll kindly forward him/her to that. Also, a very
     pointless flame-war was started about ALLMUSIC. I couldn't really get
     the sense of that, but it was surely out of the rails of any reasonable
     discussion. Moral: there's no place like home!

        Ciao, Marco
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> -Scott "Chant 'Nam Myoho Renge Kyo'" Hammer
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is that Naaammmm Me-o-ho Rey-nea Ki-o or is it something else?

=- Chris -=
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Subject: Is there a book of names?

  Does anyone know if there is a list of A&R names and companies OR
record company director of whom a person can send demo material too.
Please let me know.
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With due respect to the good fortunes of chance, I must demur about
guitar chords. The books I've looked at, especially those by Joe Pass
and George Van Eps, suggest that systematic research, guided by the ear,
is what most often produces innovative and *useful* (harmonic) sound-
material..
MWM
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From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Zappa, etc. part 2

> egg cartons...
>I don't know if it is the
>complex shape of the bottom that limits the reflections of sound waves,

Yeah, that's it.  Also, it's soft cardboard, so it absorbs more than it
reflects.   We'll be using a lot of those.

Russ
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>>Well, I do like some of their music ("Bizarre Love Triangle", "Blue Monday",
>>stuff from their first album..), but after a few songs in a row I tend to get
>>a little tired of it...

>To correct you, _Substance_ was not New Order's first album.  It is
>basically a "greatist hits" for New Order.  There first album was
>_Movement_, and you have to be a pretty die hard New Order fan to

Actually Mike, what I meant to say was that I like the songs "Bizarre Love
Triangle" and "Blue Monday" as well as some of the songs from their first
album. I know that _Substance_ is a greatest hits of sorts. I didn't know
that _Movement_ was their first. I thought _Power, Corruption and Lies_ was
(and I liked a few songs off that). Sorry for the confusion and thanks for
correcting me...

Yeah, I don't generally regard the Seattle scene bands as "alternative". Like
someone posted recently, the media likes to pin alternative to anything that
the college kids are listening to.

You mentioned Teenage Fanclub in your list of groups. I saw them on SNL last
year and really liked the two songs they played. I heard some good reviews
about them too. Any more input?

Later,

Bob T
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From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Gentle Giant

  Put down another vote for Three Friends from Gentle Giant.  Spent
much time listening to it in college.  I especially like the section
that starts out quietly, then hits you with these loud guitar power
chords.  Great shocker at parties!

Russ
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: I bought a marimba yesterday!

>From: mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
>Subject: RE: I bought a marimba yesterday!

>From the Harvard Brief Dictionary of Music...
>
>A cappella (ah ka-PEL-a: It., in or for the chapel). Designation for choral
>music without instrumental accompaniment. Originally the phrase referred to

Dear Sirs and Madams,
        I am definitely sorry to have to raise my voice against the very
authoritative one of the Harvard Brief Dictionary of Music, but in my lan-
guage, whete "a cappella" comes from, there is no way whatsoever to inter-
pret this sentence as "in or for the chapel". It means: "like a chapel" or
"in the fashion of a chapel".

        Best Regards and Swell Weekend to all.
        Marco, official neo-latin nitlover -- er -- nitpicker so far... :)
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From: hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra)
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel Revisited
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:02:12 GMT

"OUT,               OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET> writes:

>>From: Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
>>Subject: Peter Gabriel Revisited

>>I have a version of "Here Comes the Flood" on Robert Fripp's _Network_,
>>which I suspect to be a compilation. Does this song appear on any
>>of Gabriel's albums?

>        I don't know _Network_, but I suspect that it's the same version
>appeared on _Exposure_, by Fripp. I can't remember the year when it was
>issued, but I guess it was around 1978-79.

1979 on E.G. records (Polygram). IMO everyone should have it :).

>But those were the years when he even convinced EG Records to
>sign up a sugar-and-plastic artist like Toyah (anyone remembers?), whom he
>later lived [=slept!] with, and THIS was a sensible move, believe me -- but
>that's another story! :)

What was a sensible idea? The singing up or the sleeping...? I once had the
pleasure (?) of attending a show with Fripp, Toyah, Levin and someone whose
name I forgot. It was in a rather small place and I was sitting on the front
row. The music was real crappy, but on the occasional moments when the lady
shut up, the three gents started playing *real* music... wow, what a
musicians! But, alas, these occasional moments of joy and pleasure never
lasted longer than one verse, after which the terrible T. started singing
again. She stood there, approx. 10 feet from me, and I can tell you that 1)
she looks awful (IMO, IMO !!!), 2) she dances terrible, 3) she sings horrible.
Personally I would get a shock when I woke up one morning and looked at the
pillow next to me and...
OK, enough sexist language for today. Anyway, I don't really mind how she
looks, but IMO she's definitely *not* an artist in any sense.

(and the photographs are *far* too flattering :)

--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra    hjv@phil.ruu.nl  *  How can I save my dreams
Dept. of Philosophy                      *  in the nightmare, in the flood
University of Utrecht                    *  But I try.
The Netherlands                          *
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From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Guitar Picks (1 liner)

Does anyone know of a company that sells personalized guitar picks,
I'd like a phone number if possible.................L.W.
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From:         Raymond Keller <rkeller@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fret buzz from Hell

Thanks to all of you who gave a reply to my message.  :)  You've helped a
novice guitarist get started.  I really appreciate it.  I'll let you know
how things turn out.

Thanks!

RSK -- Looking forward to buzz-free jammin'.
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Subject:      Re: Live at Winterland +3 and other subjects...
              05 Nov 92 16:10:40 +0700. <199211051510.AA27281@alchemy.cs.ruu.nl>

----------------------------Original message----------------------------


>>I also saw another new Hendrix CD in the shops: The
Ultimate Experience, a sort of 'Greatest Hits' album. Is
there anyone out there who bought it? Is there something
new on it?

There is an interview with Alan Douglas in the latest GFTPM
magazine. In it he states that Cornerstones is being
withdrawn from the European market and replaced with The
Ultimate Experience. Neither of these will make it to the
American market. He also states that he is more interested
in releasing videos than archival recordings. He mentioned
the 4 volume release of the Woodstock/Atlanta/Isle of
Wight/??? concerts.  He also stated that these were edited
to less than an hour apiece to better fit into a "tv show
format". Why does this man irritate me so much?


Has anyone seen these videos? Anyone heard of future
Hendrix music releases?

--Jesse
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Subject:      Bouncing off the walls

Is anyone seeing this message? For the last two days all my messages to
ALLMUSIC have been bounced back to me.

-Adam
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From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Hollow

I am forwarding this post from the heavy metal list WITH permission. It
discusses one of the songs ("Hollow") on the recent Pantera album (_Vulgar
Display Of Power_) I was recommending.

Go out and get this album!!!

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>From jld@quintus.com  Thu Nov  5 09:05:06 1992
>Subject: best vocals ever

>Debate it if you will, or simply accept the truth.

>Anselmo's volcals on "Hollow" are some of the most emotional
>I've ever heard from a metal band.  The song is about losing
>your best friend to either a coma or some drug that whacked
>him out (not sure), and right from the part where the song/story
>changes from a ballad into what could be interpretted as the
>story teller having reached the point of anger ("He as hollow
>as I alone, a shell of my friend just flesh and bone!") then
>his voice radiates anguish, frustration, pain, and gut wrenching
>fury through the last line ("Come back!").

>bitchen...anyone who's ever had a buddy die should be able to
>relate to this song.

>I *still* think Anselmo has the most powerful voice I've ever heard....

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Seeya,
Gary
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From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Roy Blount, Jr.

This one is primarily for Hammer, who apparently doesn't get the Comedy channel
 down in ole Virginny (which went for Bush??!!).  Anyway, on In-Decision '92, l
ast nite, when Red Willie (as the Bushites called him) went over the top, Roy w
ent absolutely bananas, tossing a huge bowl of cheezos (you, know the little or
ange-yellow things) in the air, while a couple balloons floated by.  It was abs
olutely hilarious.  OMC: Let's just hope that Fleetwood Mac doesn't become the
anthem of the Baby Boomer presidency.


         Renato --Proud to live a state that sent the first African-American Wo
man to the Senate -- Barahona
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