HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Organization:  One of these days for sure
Subject: Re: How to kill *all* follow-ups?
Keywords: kill follow-ups
Reply-To: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:15:42 -0700

In <jacek.717460149@edstar>, Jacek Smits writes:
>
>Question:  How do I kill threads other than putting every single
>           subject line in my killfile?

	Why not try to build a select filter to just cover subjects you
know are interesting to you? You can still scan other titles on the 
off chance you missed one.
	For how to do it, see the " format of kill files " section of the
manual.

-- 
       John Henders      jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
    I think your "evolutionary scale" needs an adjustment.  Either 
      that, or you've got your thumb on it. -> (lefty@apple.com)

Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: .signature: How to only get one copy?
Summary: Well, don't configure for two copies!
Originator: guckes@medusa
Keywords: .signature
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:33:49 GMT

tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson) writes:

>I'm sorry if this is a FAQ,

FAQ ? Hell, only "What is a FAQ" gets asked more often. (Augh!)

>but how do I get one copy of my ~/.signature file in nn?
>In the ~/.nn/init file, I have the following:
>
>set append-signature-mail
>set append-signature-post
>unset query-signature
>
>When I did a test post, I had two copies of my !/.signature file include
>at the bottom. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!

The program that injects your post into the news flow, "inews",
looks if there is a file "$HOME/.signature".
If there is one, it will append the first four line of that file to your post.
As you told nn to append your signature to every post, too,
you will get TWO signatures, one by nn and one by inews. (1+1=2 ;)
Therefore you should
	unset append-signature-post
!!!

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if (size(signature_file) > (4_rows*75_chars)) then mail_bomb(sender)
From: peter@zeus.DIALix.oz.au (Peter Wemm)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: NN development mailing list
Date: 5 Oct 1992 18:58:04 +0800
Organization: Karam Pty. Ltd., Perth, Western Australia.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.dialix.oz.au
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19 #9

A development mailing list is being set up for NN.

If you would like to be involved in the development of NN,
you can send mail to "listserv@zeus.dialix.oz.au". The subject line
does not matter. Sample commands:

"subscribe nn Your Name" - This adds you to the NN mailing list.
"unsubscribe nn"         - This removes you if you are subscribed.
"help"			 - Help gives syntax and all commands.
"information nn" 	 - Info is about the list.

Any trouble/suggestions/questions to me at peter@zeus.dialix.oz.au..

-Peter
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From: wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: NN Customization
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:28:57 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG, Walldorf, Germany

smith@icat.larc.nasa.gov (Steven L. Smith) writes:
>amount. Ultimately what I would like to do is expunge all
>groups not read by the users.

steven,

  you're shooting too low.  the nn database is a drop in the bucket
  compared to the actual articles that you store.  determine which
  groups you're interested in (i don't have any easy way to do that),
  or conversely, which groups you're not interested in, and have your
  newsfeed modify their news sys file based on that.  then you won't
  even receive or store the articles either.

Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> <sapwdf!wohler>
Heidelberg Red Barons Ultimate Frisbee Team
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: nick@cs.tu-berlin.de (Dominik Zimmermann)
Subject: How to write a newsreader ?
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:59:32 GMT

As a semester-exercise for a unix course I have to write a very simpel newsreader.
Up to now I haven't been really into news and all that stuff. My problem is this:
The algorithm, wich searches the news-directories ( for example for creating the .newsrc-file ), takes about 5 min to do so, using opendir(), readdir() etc.
I don't think that's the optimum speed achievable, especially since other newsreaders are much faster.
I would be very happy about any advice on how to write an efficient algorithm as well as any comment that helps me to understand the whole thing.

Greetings

Dominik
From: andreas@xenox.w.open.de (Andreas Laumann)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Bug in nn with handling Re: ?
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:00:12 GMT
Organization: Privat Netnews Server

In <mike.717759946@marvin> mike@marvin.pcs.com (Mike Schroeder) writes:

->In <rhoward.717701797@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:

->->tnnrtg@tnb.phys.tue.nl (Tonnie Geraets) writes:

->->>A question to start with:
->->>Did this article show up in article selection mode with the subject
->->>"Bug in nn with handling Re: ?"? I.e. without "Re: " or ">"?

->->Without the "Re: " or the "#>"

->sorry to disappoint you, but it showed up with a leading ">" here.

Jup, also on PL16

->->>If so (which I expect, because it's the behaviour of the nn I am using) then
->->>please look at the subject line on top of your page now, it starts with
->->>"Re:".

->->Sure enough....

->same here.

->so why does your NN behave differently from mine? BTW, I'm running the
->latest official patch, ie. PL18
Uhh, is this right ? all i know about is that the latest *official* Patch 
is PL16, could somebody correct me, if this not right ...

Andreas 
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: gert@greenie.gold.sub.org (Gert Doering)
Subject: Re: NN not producing line count
Organization: GreeniE
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 20:49:34 GMT
Keywords: lines

rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

>Speaking of Lines: ... has anyone else noticed a great increase in the
>number of Lines: less postings during the last month? Posters that had
>a line count a month ago doesn't have one now.

Flame them!

gret
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: Re: NN not producing line count
Keywords: lines
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:43:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.205358.11812@daimi.aau.dk> rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>Speaking of Lines: ... has anyone else noticed a great increase in the
>number of Lines: less postings during the last month? Posters that had
>a line count a month ago doesn't have one now.

It could be that more and more people are upgrading to C-News and don't
know to (or don't want to) edit the inews script to turn that on.  Of
course, that only effect posting.  Articles coming from other sites
don't get Lines: added or removed.

INN however can add Lines: headers to every incoming post (from other
sites and from posting).  It can even reject posts who have miscounted
the Lines: header.  I have my site generating Lines: headers for posts
without them.  If a post already has one it ignores the value.  There is
no option in INN to correct a wrong Lines: header.

Tom
-- 
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"I like Bill Clinton tremendously.  I know him from the governors' conferences.
The Democrats nominated their best person, a very able fellow.  The country is
well served by that choice." -Bush's re-election chair in NJ (Thomas Kean)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel)
Subject: Re: .signature: How to only get one copy?
Originator: tai50080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu
Organization: Masticating Illini
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:20:46 GMT
Keywords: .signature

tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson) writes:

> I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, but how do I get one copy of my ~/.signature
> file in nn? In the ~/.nn/init file, I have the following:

> set append-signature-mail
> set append-signature-post
> unset query-signature

> When I did a test post, I had two copies of my !/.signature file include
> at the bottom. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!

Most likely, inews is also appending your .signature when you post.  Try

set append-signature-post false

and leaving everything else the same.  That way, nn should append your
signature to mail, but leave it off of news.  nn gives your postings to
inews, which will then append your .signature for you.
-- 
Thomas Insel (tinsel@uiuc.edu)
  "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -- Edward R. Murrow
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: rchrd@netcom.com (Richard Friedman)
Subject: setting mailer.. does it work?
Organization: Applied Parallel Rsrch (Berkeley)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:19:08 GMT

Does   set mailer   really work.
Nomatter what I set it to  (eg. cat )
it always sends the mail to dead.letter (even if
I supply something that ISNT a mailer!  eg. cat)

Any ideas?
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Xref: sparky news.software.nn:1321 news.answers:3166
From: peter@zeus.DIALix.oz.au (Peter Wemm)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Three little bugs for the to-do-list
Date: 30 Sep 1992 14:26:43 +0800
Organization: Karam Pty. Ltd., Perth, Western Australia.
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.dialix.oz.au

wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler) writes:

>cos@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ofer Inbar) writes:
>>when an article is
>>auto-selected, I can deselect it by typing the article's letter.
>>However, in consolidated menu mode, when a thread is auto-selected, I
>>cannot deselect it.

>  i second that.  if you type the letter of a thread in consolidated
>  mode, and any of the articles in that thread are selected, it should
>  unselect all articles in the thread.  only if all articles are not
>  selected, should typing the letter select all the articles in the
>  thread.

Currently it selects all first then unselects on the next keypress.  However,
even this does not work properly, because if you (I think) have an autoselect
in a collapsed line WITH already read articles in it, you HAVE to open
the line to do them all.....

>>Now, the question:  Has any official decision been made on what to
>>send nn bug reports?

>  not yet.  until then, we should respect peter's initial request and
>  post them here on news.software.nn.  when peter gets something set
>  up, i'm sure he'll post it (probably by changing the bug address in
>  patch 19).  i'll add the answer to the faq as well.

nn-bugs@dkuug.dk stays. Currently it is redirected to a mailing list on zeus,
and I'm the only one on that....

nn-bugs:	peter
nn-dev:		peter
nn-announce:	peter
nn-test:	peter
nn-request:	peter

If anybody wants in, let me know....

Also, I'm running at 2400 baud (UGH! - 38400 was nice!).  I dont mind as long
as the volume is not too great...

>>And has anything been done with all that mail
>>that's been sent to the nn-bugs address over the last two years?

>  i think peter is trying to dig them up.

The person in charge at dkuug.dk says I should ask Kim if he has archived them,
but from previous mail with Kim, I don't think he has.  So it seems most likely
that it has been going into a bit-bucket somewhere....

Kim is pretty busy.....

>Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> <sapwdf!wohler>
>Heidelberg Red Barons Ultimate Frisbee Team

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Newsgroups: news.misc
From: jscholz@Mathematik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Jens Scholz)
Subject: Re: Post vom Kontinent
Summary: post
Keywords: falk
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Distribution: FRG
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:33:07 GMT

Hello Falk!
Greatings from old germany. 
Newsgroups: news.misc
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Followup arrives before the original
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<JIK.92Oct4014908@pit-manager.mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:56:49 GMT

Crossposting could cause a followup to arrive before the original, but
only in certain cases.  Let's say someone at site A posts to soc.foobar.
The posting gets fed to site B, where a followup to it is posted to
soc.foobar,sci.blah.  Site B has a comp and sci only feed to site C,
which then sends the followup (but not the original, which it hasn't
seen) to zaphod and uunet.  30 seconds later, everyone has it.

This is, admittedly, a somewhat contrived example.

--
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Newsgroups: news.misc
From: apollo@r-node.gts.org (Andrew Herdman)
Subject: Offline REader
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:26:20 GMT

I am looking for a news reader, that can send all the new news to a file, so
that I can download the file.  This reader would haft to have the ability to
work without user intervention.  Thanks

Andrew

Send replies to :apollo@r-node.gts.org

Newsgroups: news.misc,news.admin,misc.misc,news.groups
From: reid@decwrl.DEC.COM (Brian Reid)
Subject: USENET Readership summary for Sep 92 posted
Authorized: reid@decwrl.dec.com
Keywords: arbitron, statistics, announcement
Organization: DEC Network Systems Laboratory
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 01:45:28 GMT

The monthly USENET Readership summary report for Sep 92 has been
posted to news.groups,news.lists,news.admin. The full set of data, without
commentary, is also in news.lists. If you would like your site
to participate in the survey, you will find the necessary software in
comp.sources.d,news.admin
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.admin,misc.misc,news.groups
From: reid@decwrl.DEC.COM (Brian Reid)
Subject: USENET Readership summary for Sep 92 posted
Authorized: reid@decwrl.dec.com
Keywords: arbitron, statistics, announcement
Organization: DEC Network Systems Laboratory
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 21:05:19 GMT

The monthly USENET Readership summary report for Sep 92 has been
posted to news.groups,news.lists,news.admin. The full set of data, without
commentary, is also in news.lists. If you would like your site
to participate in the survey, you will find the necessary software in
comp.sources.d,news.admin
From: ray@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Ray Lauff)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: News on CDROM.
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:42:15 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

You can get NEWS on CDROM from Sterling Software at 1-800-643-NEWS 
or more info from cdnews@sterling.com.  Single issues (about a 
month's worth of news on a 600+megabyte CDROM that supports SUN
Unix, Macs, etc) are $39.  I think it is expensive for the service,
but it IS a very good idea.
From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: Defending Technology: Pt II (Usenet News) Draft for Comment
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:34:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulogic.331
Organization: negligable

In article <1abk7oINN8ao@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> au329@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:
>What is the assumption that is now valid? I missed the 500 megabytes
>and am not really interested in rehashing it, but I would be
>interested in some summary of what the conclusions were.

According to the Berne Convention (or Treaty or whatever) everything
is copyright once commited to some medium.  That is, the author is
automatically granted certain rights whether he or she adds a copyright
notice or not.  In order to be "public domain" now the author must
specifically release the work (i.e. renounce the implicit rights
granted by Berne).  So if you lift an article from USENET and publish
it in your newletter w/o getting permission from the original author
you may be subject to prosecution for copyright violation.  In practice
this is unlikely to happen, as most people don't really care what
happens to their articles after they write them -- but if they find
out that they would be entitled to royalties if it were published
then they might get a little testy......

Permission is granted to republish this article (for what it's worth...)

		-Richard Hartman
		hartman@uLogic.COM

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Newsgroups: news.misc
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:15:16 GMT
Distribution: LOCAL
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

test post
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From: falk@earthview.cms.udel.edu (Falk Dostmann)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: Post vom Kontinent
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:01:30 GMT
Reply-To: falk@earthview.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware

Hi Jens !

Don't let them fool you. I'm not existing ???
Call me on "earthview.cms.udel.edu" and ignore those crazy comments from N.Y. ...

Falk

P.S. I'm writing articles in  k12.lang.deutsch-eng
     Wenn ich Zeit habe natuerlich.  Alles klar ?!  :-)
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: Followup arrives before the original
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:49:14 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct2.232504.22525@philmtl.philips.ca> ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn) writes:

   Clearly the original article must exist on the site on which the followup is
   posted.

From a user-based point of view, this is true, since a user can't post
a followup unless they've seen the original.  From a technical point
of view, it's not.  All a Followup article is is a normal article with
a References line; you don't actually have to have seen the original
article in order to put a References line in your posting referring to
it.  Alternatively, a user may read news at one site but post from
another, in which case he/she may see a article at the reading site
and post a Followup from the posting site, even though the posting
site hasn't gotten the original yet.

   Assume no crossposting, which can clearly complicate the issue.

I don't see what cross-posting has to do with it.

   The sites
   immediately linked to the following-up site either have the original
   article or they don't.  If they don't, it will be transferred with the
   followup article from the following-up site.

There is no guarantee of this.

For example, a node with several incoming feeds for redundancy, but no
outgoing feeds, might only feed articles posted locally to its feed
sites.  As a result, it might get an article from one feed site, have
a local user post a followup, and then feed that followup back to
*all* feed sites, some of which might not have received the original
article yet.

Another example -- the original article and followup are in two
separate batches, and the batch with the original article is corrupted
during transfer.  It doesn't get resent or bothered with, since the
site being fed the batches has other feed sites for redundancy, but it
results in the followup getting to the site faster than the original.

Another example -- the original article is in some way invalid,
according to site B, but not according to site A (e.g., a header field
that A's software is willing to accept but B's software is not).  The
article gets to A, and someone there posts a followup that is
considered valid to both hosts.  Then A feeds B, B will reject the
original article but not the followup.

There are probably other ways besides the one I've mentioned for only
the followup to get fed.

-- 
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MIT Information Systems/Athena              Moderator, news.answers
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Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.activism,comp.org.eff.talk
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Commercialization of the Nets?
Followup-To: comp.org.eff.talk
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:21:15 GMT

[followups twiddled.  this might even be best on com-priv@lists.psi.com]

Jay> == Jay Robert Hauben <bm665@cleveland.Freenet.Edu> 

 Jay>      Can anyone explain what this is all about? Doesn't the
 Jay> agreement this article describes violate the non-commercial
 Jay> essence of the Internet? I thought that government participation
 Jay> and public contribution to the developemnet of the Internet was
 Jay> predicated on the non-commercial nature of the traffic that the
 Jay> Internet would carry.

[article deleted; basically, Merit signs agreement with ANS to provide
commercial links to Michnet]

The Internet is not a non-commercial network.  It is also not a
commercial network.  It is merely a network of networks, some of which
are non-commercial, some of which are VERY commercial, some of which are
mixed.  The government's participation and public contribution are
limited to sections like the NSFNET, NASA Science Internet, and the
Department of Energy's ESnet.  Former NSFNET regionals like
Merit/Michnet, JvNCNET, NEARNET, BARRNET, and the like are becoming
mixed commercial-R&E networks as all-commercial networks like Alternet,
CERFNET, PSINET, SprintLink, and the like arrive on the scene as well.

The Ethernet wire behind my workstation is as much a part of the
Internet as anything else.  It connects to Alternet, one of the
commercial providers; that makes me no less "on the Internet."
--
Christopher K. Davis      |       NET.INSIGHTS INTO ARTISTIC CRITICISM:
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   | ``[Y]ou don't cure bad art by locking it all up
System Administrator, EFF | in one museum, you cure it by throwing tomatoes
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   | at bad artists.'' --Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: Followup arrives before the original
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:47:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: osf.1992Oct4.154702.6406
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In <1992Oct2.232504.22525@philmtl.philips.ca> ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn) writes:
>I can't understand the mechanism that allows a followup to an article to
>arrive at a site before the original article, indeed days can pass before
>the original appears.
Many sites have "L" feeds to their neighbors, which means only
locally-posted articles are sent.  So a followup may well go out
via a faster propagation than an original article.  Especially since
many people have L links to UUNET, e.g.

>Assume no crossposting, which can clearly complicate the issue.
Not really -- if the followup went out and the original article
contains a supseret of the same groups then it should have gone out too.
	/r$