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From: afong@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Krell Kraver)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Wormbin question
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:14:39 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan1.032527.5904@math.ucla.edu> ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes:
>
>So I got a plastic foam lidded box that a friend had available (shipping
>crate from some mail order frozen steak company).  I burned airholes into
>its sides with a heated screwdriver.  I filled it about five inches deep
>with potting soil.  Bought about 150 redworms to put into it.  Tossed
>in my kitchen scraps.  

First thing first.  You need some type of bedding that will allow
air to circulate around the garbage (allowing AEROBIC bacteria to
help with the digestion instead of smelly AENEROBIC (sp?) bacteria).

>About 3 weeks later, I decided to look more closely, to see how all this
>rotting garbage was coming along.  And found bugs.  They seemed to be

The bin is really an entire ecosystem.  I don't think there's a way
to avoid it.  In my worm bin I have just outside the side door,
there are earwigs, fruit flies (small in number usually!) and
spiderss (which feast on the fruit flies).  There are COUNTLESS
things I havne't bothered to notice or that have only existed in
there for a few weeks or so.  Its not just the worms that digest the
garbage.

Mary Appelhof, who you've seen mentioned in an earlier post as the
author of Worms Eat My Garbage, says that a basement is a good place
for a bin.  I assume this is because of temperature
considerations... worms don't deal with cold too well (I'm having
some problems now, and I live in San Diego!  It gets down anywhere
from freezing to the 50's at night).  You might consider only taking
your garbage out to the bin once or twice a week (keeping it in a
separate trash can under the sink until then) if your bin is located
somewhat inconveniently.



>crawling versions of those nasty little black flies.  I started thinking
>about the possibility of attracting cockroaches.  The wormbin ended up 
>outdoors, just outside my back door.  And then when I was out of town it
>rained and flooded my wormbin and my worms drowned.  
>
>I would like to try again, once everything dries out to moderate moisture.
>Is there any way, keeping the wormbin indoors, to prevent unwanted bugs?
>(The people who have posted about wormbinning seem all to come from 
>cold climates, such as Canada, so maybe the bugs problem is strictly a
>warm-climate problem).  If the problem is universal, or if anyone else
>has dealt successfully with this problem, please post or at least
>email me at ramirez@math.ucla.edu
>
>I really love the idea of wormbins (even though worms make rather boring
>pets. :-) ).  I would like to keep my worms indoors since it is a
>flight of stairs to the outside and I am lazy.  Thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 12:28:37 -0500 
From: Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Help! Sprouting!

I've been trying to sprout seeds indoors to get a head start on my garden
this year but I'm having no luck.  Its not too warm around here, actually
quite cold, even inside, so *** any help on how someone should go about 
sprouting seeds would be very greatly appreciated. ***

Thank you for your time and responses in advance.
==============================================================================

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    A pipe gives a wise man time to think and a fool something to stick 
         in his mouth.
From: bkeating@ems.cdc.com (Bonnie Keating)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Pepper Seed Source
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:26:21 GMT
Reply-To: bkeating@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC


I posted a request about a week ago asking for a address for a company that
specializes in pepper seeds (or at least carries a large number of varieties of them) and haven't received any replies, so I am starting to wonder if the
request ever got out.  So I am posting the request again.

I am starting to plan my vegetable garden for next year and am looking for
a source for all kinds of pepper seeds. I thought I remembered an article here
before that mentioned a place in Florida that specialized in this
but I can't find it in any of my saved posts.  Does anyone out there know of a
source?  I am looking for various kinds of peppers from habaneros to anchos to
sweet cherry peppers and the usual seed sources I use (Burpees, Jungs, 
Henry Fields's etc) don't have everything I am looking for.  Can anyone
help out? Or am I forced to order one kind from here and another from here
and...  (The shipping and handling is going to make that prospect expensive)!

   Thanks.

      Bonnie Keating
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From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Subject: Re: Potted vegetables, ideas needed.
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:51:43 GMT

Andrew Miller (s5uagm@fnma.COM) wrote:
> 	Why go to all this trouble to grow a crop of something which is 
> readily available, stores well, and cost so little at the green grocer?
> 
> 	If it was a a 100 liter tub of _T_omatoes, I could understand, but 
> _P_otatoes? 

Ah!  But there are many varieties of potatos that aren't readily
available in the grocery stores.  Besides, it would be kind of
fun.

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Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
		  Gravity is no laughing matter.
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: propagating bamboo
Date: 29 Dec 1992 08:19:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



Surely bamboo deserves a bit more of respect and acceptance
than the last posting indicates.
I am not a botanist but I believe there are at least two
main types: one of them grows in clumps and does not spread
and the other type does send runners and spread.
Also I have seen clumps of bamboo numerous times in gardens
throughout North America and never heard that it poses
a serious threat as far as taking away nutrients from
nearby plants.  In fact a great variety of plants do
grow around bamboo.


-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
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From: jwilson@chopin.udel.edu (James Wilson)
Subject: Re: Need help finding source of Iris Florentina
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 03:37:40 GMT

In article <C0AqK1.A7w@news.udel.edu> greimann@ravel.udel.edu (John B Greimann) writes:
>Hi, 
>
>	I'm looking for a source for a non-hybridized iris (old garden variety),
>specifically, Florentine Iris (Iris Florentina).  Any help finding a mail-order
>source or otherwise would be greatly appreciated...
>
**
One good one is The Iris Pond, 7311 Churchill Rd., McLean, VA 22101.
This is Clarence Mahan's garden, and he'll send you his complete list
including some Siberian, Japanese, and bearded varieties for $1.00.

You might also be interested in the Historical Iris Preservation
Society, a section of the American Iris Society.  He is the current
president of that section, and the membership secretary is Veronica
Wiekhorst, 4855 Santiago Way, Colorado Springs, CO 80917.

He also has a bitone purple mutant of it named Elsie Crouch Diltz
that makes a good companion.

Good luck!     				--Jim

-- 

Jim Wilson, Instructional Technology Center, University of Delaware
Newark, Delaware 19716                      jwilson@brahms.udel.edu
From: snyder@henry.ece.cmu.edu (John Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Worms and Home Composting in Winter
Date: 31 Dec 92 03:45:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: fs7.C03uFp.Ao3
Organization: Physics Department, Carnegie Mellon University

In article <1htjioINN4pu@access.usask.ca> goldie@herald.usask.ca (Hugh Goldie) writes:
>I recently saw part of a Canadian news program from Winnipeg, about indoor
>composting with red worms.  I would be very thankful if someone could e-mail
>or post some details about this, particularly where to get worms and how to
>get started.  It is -37 degrees centigrade in Saskabush right now and my
>outdoor compost heap is probably working rather slowly... :-).


Yes, please post.  I'm interested, too.

John
snyder@henry.ece.cmu.edu
From: bmoon@eis.calstate.edu (Bruce A. Moon)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Tomatoes in Marl...
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:23:12 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Questions I have for you are:
1) What varieties are you growing? Have you chosen disease resistant (VFN)
varieties? Determinate or indeterminate?
2) How are you irrigating? How often and how long? I think this might be
the problem. Tomatoes will do better with deep watering that is less
frequent, not letting them dry out.
3) Do you have any signs of blossom end rot? A blackening on the blossom
side; this would be more indicative of an irrigation or calcium problems
4)Are you having problems with any other plants? Where in southern
California? Malibu or El Centro? Palm Springs or Escondido? 
5)When do you plant?
6)Have you amended your marl?
From: pearlste@esvax.dnet.dupont.com
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: (none)
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:22:50 GMT

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From: breland@mcc.com (Mark A. Breland)
Subject: Re: Pepper Seed Source
Followup-To: rec.gardens
Reply-To: breland@mcc.com
Organization: MCC
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:10:49 GMT

> In article 31310@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com, bkeating@ems.cdc.com (Bonnie Keating) writes:
>
> I posted a request about a week ago asking for a address for a company that
> specializes in pepper seeds (or at least carries a large number of varieties of them) > and haven't received any replies, so I am starting to wonder if the
> request ever got out.  So I am posting the request again.

Here's a list of pepper seed sources I got out of several distributed FAQs:

Casa Moneo
   210 W. 14th Street
   New York, NY 10011

Horticultural Enterprises
   P.O. Box 810082
   Dallas, Texas 75381-0082

J.L. Hudson, Seedsman
   P.O. Box 1058
   Redwood City, CA 94064

La Preferida, Inc.
   3400 W. 35th Street
   Chicago, IL 60632

Native Seeds/Search
   3950 W New York Drive
   Tucson, AZ 85745

Old Southwest Trading Company
   P.O. Box 7545
   Albuquerque, NM 87194

Pepper Gal (The)
   10536 119th Ave. North
   Largo, FL 34643

Plants of the Southwest
   1812 Second Street
   Santa Fe, NM 87501

Porter & Son
   1510 E. Washington St
   P.O. Box 104
   Stephenville, TX 76401

Roswell Seed Co.
   115-117 South Main
   P.O. Box 725
   Roswell, NM 88201
   (505) 622-7701

Seed Savers Exchange
   Rural Route 1, Box 239
   Decorah, IA 52101

Shepherd's Garden Seeds
   30 Irene St.
   Torrington, CT 06790

St. Thomas Vegetable Products
   Box 9519
   St Thomas, VI 00801

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Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: alisg@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: spring fever
Reply-To: alisg@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:28:35 GMT

>>	    
>>	    IS IT SPRING YET?!
>>
>>I'm tired of the cold, windy, dark, grey rainy days.  No more snow
>>no more sleet or ice...
>>
>>	   IS IT SPRING YET?!
>>
>>ARRRRGGGGHHH!!!!!!
>>
>
>Yes Virginia there is a Spring Thaw,
>


I don't want to hear about it. Here in Bozeman it hasn't gotten above zero for
a week, and most of the time it's been -5 or less. As if that wasn't bad
enough, there was no summer last year -- I had to pick what I could ripen
inside and let the rest go, thanks to a snow flurry August 23rd. Ah, Montana,
nine months of winter and three months of relatives.... :)

(One small consolation -- after a couple of mild winters, this one ought to
chase out some of the Visigoths and Vandals arriving from California.)

george
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: bryant@neural.Kodak.COM (Steve Bryant)
Subject: Re: Early Start Ideas
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 12:40:55 GMT


>I always get a kick out of this sort of thing.  Do you know that there is
>a whole large country complete with farmers and market gardeners located
>to the north of you? Also, many people are very successful in raising
>veggies in U.S. areas like New England, Minnesota, and Montana, not to
>mention Alaska!

Land north of Rochester? And you can grow things there! There may still
be hope for Rochester after all.
From: greimann@ravel.udel.edu (John B Greimann)
Subject: Need help finding source of Iris Florentina
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:04:48 GMT

Hi, 

	I'm looking for a source for a non-hybridized iris (old garden variety),
specifically, Florentine Iris (Iris Florentina).  Any help finding a mail-order
source or otherwise would be greatly appreciated...



							Thanks for the help,

							Brandon

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From: karenp@sybase.com (Karen Paulsell)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Help! Sprouting!
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:35:00 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <cfD9N5m00UhW01dEoR@andrew.cmu.edu> mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michel Fougeres) writes:
>I've been trying to sprout seeds indoors to get a head start on my garden
>this year but I'm having no luck.  Its not too warm around here, actually
>quite cold, even inside, so *** any help on how someone should go about 
>sprouting seeds would be very greatly appreciated. ***

Before I moved my water heater from the kitchen to the coooold 
basement, I sometimes started seedlings on or next to it. Before you
try it, get a thermometer, and measure the temperatures, though, it
could be too hot or cold.

I've used the warming cables with good results. A loop of wire with
a thermostat, and an electrical cord to plug into the outlet. You
flatten the loop and thermostat into a seed-tray, in a bed of sand
or whatever, and place the seed-sixpacks on top. I recall that I
could see a jump in my electric bill when I had a couple of these
running. So, here I am, saving money by keeping my house at 62 
degrees, and wasting it by heating up my seed trays, for a slight
jump on the season!
From: judith@mermaid.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Bird food
Date: 23 Dec 1992 18:38:26 GMT
Organization: NASA/Langley Research Center
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: mollusk.larc.nasa.gov

W What can one do to discourage mourning doves? I have a little teeny feeder
o on suction cups attached to a window. No matter what I put in there (thistle,
  sunflower seeds, regular seed) every time I look, there are a couple of those
  dopey-looking birds on the feeder like hippos on a park bench. I want to look
  at cardinals and jays and finches, not gloomy pigeons.

J Judith Moore
  judith@mermaid.larc.nasa.gov
From: pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Ethics in gardening (was Re: Domestication of poison ivy)
Date: 26 Dec 92 07:31:46 GMT
	<1992Nov13.152842.5843@infonode.ingr.com> 
	<BxtI6u.JFD@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.

In article <BxtI6u.JFD@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> 
bobw@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Bob Wildfong) writes:
>What do you all think?

Keep the genes in circulation, that's all the plants really ask of us.
Variety is the spice of life.
From: rcooke@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (RON COOKE)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Need rose help
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:52:14 GMT
Reply-To: rcooke@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

Dear Gardeners,

We need some help with roses.

Can you suggest a list of roses (either older varieties or hybrid teas), that
will drop their petals thus avoiding the need to deadhead. The only one we know
about is the single yellow hybrid tea "Sunny June."

Also, does anyone have recommendations for roses (either old or new varieties)
that make *great* cut flowers?

Thanks,

Ron and Lucy Cooke
**********************************************************
RON COOKE,CHEMISTRY DEPARTMENT
CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY-CHICO
CHICO, CA 95929-0210
RCOOKE@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
From: rv01@harvey.gte.com (Robert Virzi)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Dogwood split from snow, Can it be saved?
Keywords: shattered trunk
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:49:19 GMT

Hi all!  The wet, heavy snow we got last week caused some
severe tree damage in my area.  We had about a dozen trees
snap off at the tops or loose significant branches.  Most
of these were pines, but a few oaks and birch were lost
also.

One tree presents a particular problem for me.  A pink 
flowering dogwood that occupied a prominent place in our
front landscaping was literally split in pieces.  The spreading
habit made the tree hold snow until it split right down the
main trunk, in four major pieces.  Looks a little like lightning
hit it directly down the center.

So is there anything we can do to salvage this valuable tree?
I've considered bolting the split parts together and sealing the
tree as best I can.  Alternatively, I thought I could just try
to save the biggest section, pruning the rest away.  I'd rather
not do that, because it would destroy the symetry of the tree.

So any ideas about how to save the tree, or at least try?  Should
salvage be attempted soon, or after it warms up?  Any help would
be appreciated, as replacing a 20 foot dogwood sounds very expensive.

Thanks.

Bob


-- 

  rvirzi@gte.com             Think Globally. ===
  +1(617)466-2881                            === Act Locally!

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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Cold-hardy trees
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 17:23:44 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

Hi.  A friend of mine, Bill Mackentley, runs St. Lawrence Nurseries.
They sell cold-hardy fruit and nut trees and shrubs by mail all over
the United States.  If you'd like them to mail you a catalog, email
me your address and I'll get it to them.

Potsdam is a very cold Zone 2, so if it'll grow here it'll grow anywhere.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
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Xref: sparky rec.gardens:8662 alt.sustainable.agriculture:511
From: hank@netcom.com (Hank Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens,alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Re: Need alternative to chemical pesticides
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:14:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


>tomato-fruit worms
Sphinx moth caterpiller?
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez)
Subject: essential veggies to grow
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 04:58:57 GMT

If we are going to discuss essential vegetables to grow, the ones that
absolutely are inferior in the stores, I have to cast my vote for homegrown
leaf lettuce.  There is no comparison between the tender, picked-slightly-
immature leafs grown at home and those motheaten heads of pale, medium
and/or reddish lettuce (fully mature, large-leafed, somewhat tough, often
beaten-up looking ) available at even the best markets.  The only
problem with growing your own leaf lettuce, picking it as mesclun or
waiting until it's a little larger but still very young and tender is that
you will never ever be happy with storebought lettuce again.  (I am not
mentioning iceburg lettuce because I don't consider iceburg lettuce to be
food.  This is my opinion, not necessarily the opinion of my employers
or coworkers.)
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Potted vegetables, ideas needed.
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:02:42 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

>Does anyone know if it's feasible to grow potatos in a pot?  That might
>be kind of fun.

An old Japanese nurseryman I used to deal with told me how to
grow them even more simply.  Buy a bag of compost at the
garden center.  Cut the top off.  Punch some holes in the
bottom for drainage.  Plant potato sets about six inches deep,
in the top of the bag.  Water as needed.  Voila, potatos!

--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"The field of pseudo-science hasn't progressed much in ten
years, except to gain access to the net." --from ca.earthquakes
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From: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP (Rick Harrison)
Subject: Re: Help! Sprouting!
Reply-To: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:41:14 GMT

mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michel Fougeres) writes:

> I've been trying to sprout seeds indoors to get a head start on my garden
> this year but I'm having no luck.  Its not too warm around here, actually
> quite cold, even inside, so *** any help on how someone should go about 
> sprouting seeds would be very greatly appreciated. ***
 
Most vegetable seeds sprout best when the soil temperature is
around 70 degrees Fahrenheit, although the optimum temperature
varies from species to species.  If the soil is wet and cold,
the seeds are likely to rot.  Try to find a warmer nook or cranny,
perhaps on top of the TV, near a lamp, or something like that
(but you don't want it _too_ hot).
 
It is also a good idea to use sterile, germ-free soil.  Plant
seeds in sterile seed-starting material, or use your oven to
sterilize some local dirt.
 
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Rick Harrison  71174.2735@compuserve.com  ...tarpit!bilver!jwt!bbs-hrick
From: ajeans@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Albert Jeans)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:24:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Cats
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.gardens

Rent or buy (if you anticipate a lot of usage) a cat trap from your local
humane society and turn the cats in as you catch them. If you are on friendly
terms with your neighbors, of course, see if they will voluntarily restrain
their cats. 
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From: reidy@denali.gsfc.nasa.gov (Anne-Marie Reidy)
Subject: what to do about ground hogs
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 921
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:02:47 GMT

Hi.  I'm new to this newsgroup so please forgive me if this topic has been
discussed before.  I moved into a new house last winter with a big sunny back-
yard and had high hopes for a large garden.  Everything was going well until
the ground hogs showed up.  They ate just about everything except the tomatoes
and peppers.  I tried sprinkling cayenne pepper on everything to keep them
away.  This worked for a while but the groundhogs soon figured out that the
rain would wash the pepper away so that if it rained in the afternoon, by the
time I got home from work they had eaten everything they could.  I also tried
the Have-a-Heart type traps but didn't catch anything.  So does anyone have
any suggestions for a groundhog repellant?  I heard tht deer don't like soap -
any possiblitity that hanging bars of soap around the garden would keep ground
hogs away?

Thanks for the help,
Anne-Marie (reidy@denali.gsfc.nasa.gov)