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From: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: CAR ALARMS!
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:20:00 GMT
Reply-To: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle)
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248

All,
     False alarms are annoying for everybody, but not every alarm out
there is guilty of this.  The only time that my alarm gave off false
signals is when I first put it in and it was not totally adjusted.  I
used false signals to set it BECAUSE I did not want it going off by
natural causes.  I didn't figure slapping my bumper was the proper way
to get it adjusted correctly.  Now that it is adjusted correctly it
only goes of when some one hits it or something.  Oh, Yeah,  I am
sorry it went off in that hail storm last year.  Marble size hail
does that sometimes.  I would hate to live in Calif and have it go
off in an earthquake.  Would not want someone under my car with his
garden tools.....
        As for the guy who said...cut the battery cable off with a
pruning tool...I don't think so.  1.  You could not get under most
cars to get to the battery cables.  They are too low any more.  2.
That does not even account for the fact that the alarm is going off
in your face at the time.  This can be very painful.  3.  Did you
ever consider that the alarm may have a backup battery.  I hope so,
I would hate for you to go through all that trouble and have the
alarm still going off in your FACE!!!  4.  I would like to see you
explain why your are on the ground when the owner comes by with his
baseball bat.  Or even better, a cop with his flash light.  Blinded
by the light and deaf too.  Click!  Click!  You have the right to...
        I won't even reply about the guy who added to the above
statement by speaking of grounding the positive straight.  Ok, Lefty!
        As for the various people who have spoken of useing sledge
hammers and other such items to the hood.  All I can say is......
911-Yes...There is some one bashing in the hood of a car with
a sledge hammer.  RE:  We will be sending someone by...<time goes by>
Excuse me sir...Why are you doing that to that car?  RE:  Duh!  Duh!
Click!  Click!  You have the right to......
        As for the guy who said...Empty the oil out, it won't set off
motion sensor.  I don't know how tight you tighten you drain bolt...
but I know mine is tight enough to trigger the alarm if an attempt
to remove it is made.  Maybe if we are lucky enough....yours is loose
enough to fall out by itself.  See...I can speak ignorantly malicious
too.
        As for the guy who spoke of cockroaches and Honda Civics and
Mack Trucks, etc...  I think you definitely have a problem.  Maybe
you aren't hearing alarms going off.  Maybe it's the effects of the
drugs you are on.  Just sleep it off!  <Don't do DRUGS!!!>

        Quote of Quotes:  "A properly installed alarm will not
                           be falsely triggered!"
                Later,  Rob Runkle
                                                                                               
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,alt.locksmithing,alt.tasteless
From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Re: Car alarms
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:03:57 GMT

In article <3=jqrvl@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.052253.6048@u.washington.edu> miolnir@stein.u.washington.edu (Scot Thorstad) writes:
>>
>>  Anyone have any particularly nasty things to do to the bastards 
>>whose car alarms start screaming a 1:00 am and never shut up?
>>(I expect something good from you a.t people)
>

How about a difficult to remove sticker which reads :

   "People whose cars do not sound
   obnixious false alarms don't have
   to scrape stickers like this off
   their windows"

Be sure the sticker is small and goes at the base of the window so that 
it does not dangerously obstruct vision.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: demaine@ee.ualberta.ca (Cal Demaine)
Subject: Re: Power lines near preamp signals
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:16:29 GMT

jsc52962@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey S. Curtis) writes:
>	1) Running the amp's +12V lead, which will be carrying
>	   around 25-40 amps, within a couple inches of my
>	   preamp cable, or

 Do IT!  DO IT!  Actually, what I'd do is I'd wire it with everything loose,
and then fire the car up and check on the noise.  Then, if there was some, I'd
start moving the wires around until I was satisfied.  Also, I'd try switching
on and off all the accessories, checking for noise, before I committed any of
the wires.  You should be able to find a fairly noise free route, with luck.

>	2) Running the amp's +12V lead about eight feet longer
>	   than it needs to be in order to avoid the situation
>	   in (1).

 Naw, power wire is expensive and a pain.  Besides that, for safety reasons,
in most cases it's better to have a shorter run.  Less chance that some
thing will break the wire and cause problems.  Besides THAT, if you're going
by IASCA rules, another 8 feet of wire will make your required gauge go up
(er, actually down) by two.  What a drag.

>So, expert installers, what would you have me do? Thanks for any
>tips..

Whoops!  You wanted expert installers?  Damn.  Forget what I just said.  I'm
not in the Expert class. Thank god.  I'm busy trying to figure out what I can
get away with as a Novice....

   - Cal
-- 
  - Cal Demaine                   | The university may own my ideas and opinions
    (demaine@bode.ee.ualberta.ca) | but don't think for a moment they share them
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From: jdavis@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason Davis)
Subject: Re: DREAM SYSTEM...
Reply-To: jdavis@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason Davis)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:25:40 GMT


---stuff deleted---
>I'd like to upgrade to one of those 16 Wheeler tractor-trailor riggs the
>big stars and auto racers travel in.  Get a big generator outside and
...---stuff deleted---
>Kirk(dreams lead to progress) out


About a year ago someone wrote about something similar to this that supposidly
existed, I believe on the east coast.  The system described included 20 of the
EV (Electro Voice) 30 inch subs running on Orion Power.  The enclosure w/ subs
was located in the trailor which was 'booted' to the tractor.  Has anyone else
ever heard anything about this?  This was in a letter included in CA&E.  I
don't recall the date, it could have been a couple of years.  Verification
anyone?
							-Jason Lee Davis  73's

   /|  Jason Lee Davis                        <jdavis@wizard.etsu.edu>  |\
||/_|  Shiloh Productions sound co. ____      <s2903d@etsuv2.etsu.edu>  |_\||
||\ |  Rt. 1  Box 175              (_ |_)     <s2903d@etsuvax2.bitnet>  | /||
   \|  Klondike, Texas 75448 ________)| _____ (903) 886-2903            |/
From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Carjacking Alarms
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:32:32 GMT
Organization: Chevron


 Does anybody recall reading the Carjacking Alarm survey
 post I did last Friday?

 I've got a funny feeling it didn't make it out of my
 netserver.

 Thanks.

 TRAVIS
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From: grichard@swimming.cis.ohio-state.edu (Golden Richard III)
Subject: Re: Do those CD players skip? Are they any good?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:01:02 GMT

In article <1ee5kaINNiik@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mxl38@po.CWRU.Edu (Michel Labrousse) writes:
>
>I'd like to get one of these in-dash CD players but I've read on this newsgroup
>that some of you had troubles with CDs skipping. My car is a Honda Civic 1992
>and I was wondering if any of you knew about those:
>Sony CDX-5180
>Kenwood KDC 85 R
>Pioneer DEH 680, DEH 880, DEH 980
>
>I don't need the specifications, I've got them. I'm more interested in the kind
>of problems you may have had or heard about (skipping for instance). 
>Thanks a lot in advance!
>
>Michel


I have a Sony CDX-5080 (removable instead of removable face).   In my
Escort LX, I had to practically bounce the car to make it skip.    The
Sony is in an '87 RX-7 now (bone-jarring, tight suspension) and it
does skip occasionally (though not so much that I'm really tempted to
hurl it out the window while driving).     The Escort's suspension was
a lot more forgiving of Columbus streets than the RX-7.

I have no experience with the others.


--Golden
-- 
Golden Richard III             OSU Dept. of Computer and Information Science
grichard@cis.ohio-state.edu                                   (614) 292-0056
From: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: RE: CAR ALARMS
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 

-> >I think that the right viewpoint is to keep a low profile.  The kind
-> >of people who have to buy an expensive car stereo to make up for
-> having >a 2 inch dick really deserve to get their stereo stolen and
-> their tires >slashed,  etc.  Anyone who spends his money and time
-> "detailing" his >minitruck deserves to see it reduced to scrap metal
-> on the bottom of a >gorge.  No exceptions.
->
-> *ahem* I hope this was sarcasm. In a civilized society, no one
-> "deserves" to have their car/stereo stolen. And, if they wish to
-> spend their hard earned money on their truck, they ought to be
-> allowed to.
-> I live in the US of A, I don't know where you do.
No Doubt!  Now that I have my own nice car and am paying for it
myself, I have alot more respect for other peoples things.  I think that
this only comes with maturity.  Have you ever noticed how little kids
sometimes throw stuff and break things that are more valuable than they
realize.  They just don't realize the work someone has to put into
something.  Keith,  obviously a child has infiltrated the car.audio
line.  Oh! Noo! ......Wait!  I guess I never thought about  the scum
factor of the population in this country.  They are the ones who never
grew up.  This must be the situation.
        While I may think that some of the things that people do to
their vehicles is a little gaudy sometimes,  I believe that is their
right.  They own it and it is theirs to do as they please.  As for
putting an expensive stereo in a car.  Think about how much time you
spend listening to your stereo at home and how much time you spend
in your car.  Then think about how much you spend on each.  I,
personally don't listen to my stereo at home that much.  Therefore I
chose to put a quality listening system in my vehicle.  Some people
think that it is risky to put that much value in a car.  As I have had
both my car and my apartment broken into once each.  I don't see the
extra comfort of the stereo being in the home.  I personally believe
that my car is safer than my apartment.  That is of course
circumstantial depending on where you live.  Oh! well!
                Later,  Rob Runkle
               
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,alt.locksmithing,alt.tasteless
From: houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle)
Subject: Re: Car alarms
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:54:10 GMT

>>In article <1992Nov16.052253.6048@u.washington.edu> miolnir@stein.u.washington.edu (Scot Thorstad) writes:
>>>
>>>  Anyone have any particularly nasty things to do to the bastards
>>>whose car alarms start screaming a 1:00 am and never shut up?
>>>(I expect something good from you a.t people)

	I've always wanted to slip a sachel charge underneath one of
those cars.  It would make a really nice effect if it set the car on fire
but didn't destroy the alarm right away,  and if the shock sets it off,  so
you get this burning car with the alarm going off.  

	I think that the right viewpoint is to keep a low profile.  The kind
of people who have to buy an expensive car stereo to make up for having
a 2 inch dick really deserve to get their stereo stolen and their tires
slashed,  etc.  Anyone who spends his money and time "detailing" his
minitruck deserves to see it reduced to scrap metal on the bottom of a
gorge.  No exceptions.
-- 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: gilchr@ee.ualberta.ca (Andrew Gilchrist)
Subject: Question about Sony Diskchangers
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:19:17 GMT


I heard from somewhere that a particular Sony CD-changer had a
really big skipping problem.  This wan't related to car movement...
it just liked to skip.  My CDP-990 had this problem, too.  I think
the car unit in question was made the same year.

Anyway, I heard that they killed this model the next year, and were
offering a hidden factory warranteed repair for it.

Anyone have one of these?  Have I been misinformed?

Also, did they REALLY fix this, or are some of their newer units still
prone to developping mis-tracking?

Andrew
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: paulf@halcyon.com (Paul Forgey)
Subject: Re: Buying a crossover, how to choose?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:07:19 GMT

keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys) writes:


>I know that i need a crossover.  I have a basic understanding of
>what crossovers do, but i am not sure how to determine what kind of
>crossover i need, for my application.  So, tell me what to buy!

>My head unit has four RCA outputs.
>I have one 4 channel amp, and a 2 channel which will be bridged to
>1 channel.  I have two sets of components.  A set for the front, and
>a set for the rear.  Each has a pair of passive crossovers, however, the
>crossover only "serves" the tweeter (the mid driver operates full range).
>I have a single dual voice coil sub in a ported enclosure.

OK.  What we want to work towards is seperating your sub bass from the
rest of your response.  So, say, everything below 200 HZ (that point is
rather high, but have a professional listen to what you have and what
kind of car, etc.) goes into your dual voice coil sub, and the other two
channels go into your satalite (door) speakers.  Keep the passive
between the mids and tweets.

>I would like to limit the frequencies channeled to each of the mid bass
>drivers.  I would like to limit the frequencies channeled to the sub.

A two way crossover does that.  At or below sub bass -> subwoofer.
Above that -> door speakers.

>I am interested in a unit which can be trunk mounted. I would like to
>retain the ability to fade from front to rear.

Front to rear?  Use a passive L-Pad style fader.  Radio shack has a unit
which can take two channels in, and put that into four channels out.

>Basically, i want a good quality active crossover, but i don't want to 
>buy more than is necessary.

>	-	What kind of crossover do i need? 
>	-	2 way, 3 way?
2 way

>	-	which is better 6db,12db,18db or 24db/octave?
>	-	continously variable, plug-in modules?

The steeper the better.  Find out what your frequency point needs to be,
and plug or dial it in, and keep it that way!

>I've looked at an Audio Control 2XS $115, 4XS $199, and PPI FRX 322 $250.
>For some reason that i don't understand there seems to be many more 2 way
>crossovers available than 3 way, even in the higher price range.

2 way crossovers are more popular because they make a lot of sense, and
in cases like yours, are perfect :).  The Audio Control 2XS is what I
would go with, especially for the money!  Also, a lot of cheaper active
crossovers are noise prone.  Audio Control products are guaranteed NOT
to introduce noise.  They physically can't.

paulf@halcyon.com
From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Adhesive for particle board/carpet
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:48:54 GMT
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory

In article <16NOV199208351749@zeus.tamu.edu>, rkb6116@zeus.tamu.edu (MR. WEATHER) writes:
|> Okay, okay, okay- I know this is a FAQ, but what's the best adhesive to
|> attach automotive grade carpet to particle board?

   There are a few that I've heard work well:

     3M Spray Adhesive 08080

     Touch-N-Stick Adhesive

     Construction adhesives like "Liquid Nails"

-- Tim
From: ui68@linus.umd.edu (Bill Kyte)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: How do you change two RCA outputs to four?
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


   Tha question is clearly stated in the subject line. To those who respond
I'm sendind out my thanks now.  Thank You.


                                    -Bill

Xref: sparky rec.audio.car:4964 alt.locksmithing:2046
From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: interest in car alarm group?
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:45:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.audio.car
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <Uf10bOO00WB5FP2Vlr@andrew.cmu.edu> al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Amit Likhyani) writes:
>
>If we just blow off alarms as useless, we are contributing to our
>stereo's demise.  In the final analysis though, I think a stealth
>installation in a low profile car is the best deterrent.  I am sad to
>say that I may currently have the best stereo I will over own.  As I get
>a nicer and nicer car, I will be less willing to cut holes and more
>leary of people looking in.

First of all, I am for a car alarm discussion.

Second, I agree with the person who says that car alarms are basically useless.
The only car alarm system I like is the one that is silent, and does something
like Lo-Jack or what I like, MagnaVolt.

I used to go to a high school where car alarms went off every day in the
parking lot.  Cars were stolen in broad daylight, because of the
many, many false alarms.  One car's alarm would go off all the time if
somebody pushed down on the car a quarter of an inch.  The only car
alarms that do not go off in my experience are factory-installed,
passive ones, like on the Nissan Maxima, Toyota Camry, or the Toyota
Supra.  I prefer an alarm with a starter kill and the buzzer inside
the car, but a siren does nothing.

My favorite alarm is the one in the old James Bond movie, break in,
BOOM! :-)

-- 
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From: vincent@garnet.berkeley.edu (Vincent J. Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Alarm for carjacking
Date: 20 Nov 1992 18:21:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Yea, but if you realize a stink bomb, It's going to stay in the upholstery.
On a serious note, there should be a way to have a timer set that once armed.
it will cut off the fuel flow to your engine, therby stranding him.

Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: paulf@halcyon.com (Paul Forgey)
Subject: Re: Do those CD players skip? Are they any good?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:59:37 GMT

mxl38@po.CWRU.Edu (Michel Labrousse) writes:


>I'd like to get one of these in-dash CD players but I've read on this newsgroup
>that some of you had troubles with CDs skipping. My car is a Honda Civic 1992
>and I was wondering if any of you knew about those:

>Sony CDX-5180

Haven't looked into the Sony models, but most dealers tell me:  "It's a
Sony, if you want to do it right, stay away"

>Kenwood KDC 85 R

I've don't know about the car players, but both friends and I have had
extensive problems with their portables, both with quality and
skipping.

>Pioneer DEH 680, DEH 880, DEH 980

Excellent models.  A friend has a DEH 680 in a slammed (read bumpy)
Honda, and it works quite well.  The SuperTuner III and IV are excellent
for areas like Seattle, Denver, etc..  IE shitty reception.

The remote control is nice if you want to compete in SPL contests, too.

paulf@halcyon.com
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: tlwillia@eos.ncsu.edu (TREVOR LANE WILLIAMS)
Subject: Equipment For Sale
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:48:03 GMT

I have the following equipment for sale:


Alpine 7286  Cassette Deck - Lots of features like:
		Code-In/Code-Out Theft Protection
		Full-Logic Cassette
		HLTAC Tape Head
		Pre-Out/Pre-In
		16Wx4 Amplifier
		Dolby B
		Much more...

Alpine 3311 Pre-Amp 7-Band Graphic Equalizer with Subwoofer Output
		Stereo/Mono switch for subwoofers
		Phase switch for subs
		3 subwoofer crossover frequencies - 80, 120, 160 Hz
		+-18dB and +-12dB boost/cut

Alpine 3550 4/3/2 Channel Amplifier
		25Wx4
		25x2 + 70x1
		70x2
		Hi/Lo Level input

If you send me e-mail I can give you more information on any of these
if you like.  I'll take the best offer on this equipment.

Thanks,

tlwillia@eos.ncsu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,alt.locksmithing,alt.tasteless
From: uwvs@pool.info.sunyit.edu (William Stevenson)
Subject: Re: Nabbing a car thief (was: car alarms)
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:48:13 GMT

This is slightly off the topic but... A friend of mine who lives in Houston says that he witnessed an old man who told some hiking boyscouts to stay off his private property.  the kids didnt listen to the old man and proceeded to go onto the land anyways. Naturally the old geezer pulled out his double barrel and pumped one of the little blue boys full of birdshot rendering all bodily functions inoperable.  I found this quite amusing especially when i found out the boy scout leader took the old fart to cour

t on charges, and the old geezer got off clean as a whistle, charged the boyscout leader with trespassing who ends up spending time in jail and received a fine.
ha
how amusing.
just thought i'd share that with you.

Will

 

Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: bored-out-of-my-skull <clane@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: (none)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:18:10 GMT



So Sony isnt making the changers that will work with the XR series anymore?

I was just going to ask that,  shit!  I suppose when I graduate and get a
real car i will have to buy another stereo...........


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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: chiu@gpb-mac. (Norman Chiu)
Subject: Re: How to reduce alternator whine
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:51:26 GMT

dans@panix.com (Dan Simoes) writes:
: 
: Rough diagram:
: 
: 
: + ***** _    spkr       spkr
: |       |      \         /
: |       | ..... \ RADIO / """""""" (RCA)
: |       | .                      "
: |       | .                      "
: |       | . (trigger)            "
: |       | .........              "
: |        - - - - - (-)AMP"""""""""
:  - - - - - - - - - (+)AMP
:                  /       \  
:                 /         \  
:                /           \  
:             spkr          spkr
: 

One thing I will try is to connect the negative (-) lead of the amp (i.e.
the ground) to somewhere else in the car other than the negative terminal
of the battery.  A suitable place will be any bare metal within the
shortest distance of the amp.  Try not to extend the original length of
the amp's ground wire.

: 
: Equipment:
: [deleted]
: Amp: Pyramid Gold 20f/40rear (only rear power is used)
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^

If that doesn't help.  Replace the amp. :-)

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