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From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: DC: The Ray
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:45:20 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

What does anybody else out there think of DC's miniseries "The Ray"?

I like it.  Frankly, I'd prefer if it were a straight new superhero
comes into his powers rather than all the conspiracy stuff going on,
but it _is_ interesting.

And, it had the best line I've seen in a while.  
The scene is the Ray's first confrontation with a supervillain.
He thinks: Run. Fight. Run. Kick butt. Run. Declare war. Wet yourself.*
Then says: Not a MISTER, chance!!
and thinks:  Gotta work on my war cries.
			* each sentence is in its own thought balloon.

In a way, it reminds me of the earliest issues of _Starman_, with that
sense of innocence and naivety.  Other people's comments?
-- 
--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<--------------
It is said that the gods play games with the lives of men. But what games, and
why, and the identities of the actual pawns, and what the game is, and what the
rules are--who knows? Best not to speculate. Thunder rolled... It rolled a six.
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: From Doug Atkinson: The New Mutants
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:49:08 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Apr4.163649.16744@yang.earlham.edu> kurtg@yang.earlham.edu (Son of Scribbler) writes:



+>This is from Doug Atkinson, comments should be sent to douga@yang.earlham.edu.

+>PREMISE: The New Mutants as once they were.  Stevie Hunter
+>organises a new group and some helpers.





+>Magma
+>Changeling
 ^^^^^^^^^^
	I think DC still owns this name.

+>Kevin
+>Sensor
+>Vector
+>Ultimate
+>Dusk
+>Force

+>STAFF

+>Director: Stevie Hunter
+>Healer (Medical staff)
+>Erg (Part-time trainer)
+>Lila Cheney (Financer, accompaniment)
+>Fred Duncan (FBI contact, business manager)
+>Dennis Stewart (Trainer)
+>Tom Corsi (Security, grounds)
+>Sharon Friedlander (Nurse, grounds)
+>James and Faith Meyer (Teachers)

	A general comment here is that there are just too many characters.
For this sort of thing, the core cast has to be kept rather small.  The
medium tends to punish large, complicated supporting casts by its nature.
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Spider-Man
Date: 16 Apr 1992 19:03:59 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine

In article <9204161734.AA11130@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William R Thompson) writes:
>BTW, what exactly is Frank Miller working on at the moment?  
>I would like to see him return to Daredevil....

	He's writing "Robocop vs. Terminator."  (I kid you not.)
A three (or 4, I forget) issue mini-series from Dark Horse.  
Art by Walt Simonson.

-- 
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Sandman movie cast
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 01:18:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.235956.22698@cco.caltech.edu> julius@cco.caltech.edu (julius yang) writes:
>Dream		whoever did the makeup for Edward Scissorhands will have to
>		repeat their trick with whoever gets this role
>Death		Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio (Marian in Robin Hood)
>Desire		Annie Lennox from Eurythmics
>Destiny		whoa, any large British actors about?

Sean Connery gets my vote.

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Scowling Jim Cowling, person of same sex sharing living quarters
University of Victoria Creative Writing Department
Opinions Disassociated

	"Well you know, if he'd apologized I wouldn't have pressed charges."
	"Oh, pretty funny."

				- Mike Tyson's response
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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: How to sell?
Date: 16 Apr 1992 00:54:37 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine


	You may get more money if instead of cash, you ask for in-store
credit.  Of course, if you're giving up comics, the last thing you want to
do is get $1000 dollars worth of credit at a comics store, but if you're
just going to sell the stuff you never read anymore, then credit may be the
way to go.  This makes it easier on the store manager, who doesn't have to
fork over all that cash in one swoop.

	Just as a note, a few years ago, when I sold a bunch of my comics
to free up some closet space, all I got was 25% of guide, in store credit.
And that was the best I could get after checking out the local stores.
Granted, this was in a medium sized town, so it's entirely possible you
could get more than I did.
-- 
Rick Jones				Systems Support Center
albert@bcm.tmc.edu			Baylor College of Medicine
Voice: 713-798-7352			standard disclaimers apply
GEEZ Mahn, I'm surrounded by amateurs!- Sebastian (the Little Mermaid)
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From: cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chuck Farmer)
Subject: Broken Claws (was Re: adamantium)
Organization: NCSA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:40:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.183731.6138@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, rymarz@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Daniel Rymarz) writes:
> 
> What is the tensile strength of adamantium?
> Brinnel hardness?
> Izod impact?
> Modulus of elasticity?
> Melting point? 
> 
> How do you sharpen adamantium claws?
> 
> How unbreakable is unbreakable? Could you drop a tank of Wolverine and 
> have him come out smelling like a rose?

Since adamantium is so rare (theoretically) I doubt that there has been an 
indepth scientific study of it's properties (ie. Marvel doesn't have a chemist
on staff)

As far as breaking Wolvie's claws, the first time you see his bones/claws get
broken is way back in the Belasco affair where Illyana got aged. S'ym snaps 
off a claws of the dead wolvie skeleton, picks his teeth, and then throws it
in Petey's shoulder. So in other word it can be broken. 

It is probably subject to magical manipulation as well as molecular manipulation
Magneto can manipulate them, although he has not actually bent them. (I doubt 
that he has tried). Also I would think that a skilled enough TK could tear them
apart molecule by molecule. Anyone with enough strength and leverage and strength
should be able to break them given the opportunity. (If Wolvie sat still and 
let the Hulk try to break his arm for instance). So far the biggest threat to 
Wolvie would have to be the Molecule Man (Owen Reese). He absorbed Cap's shield
Thor's Hammer, The Surfer's board and Iron Man's armor without even blinking
so taking out wolvie's bones wouldn't be a problem.

There is my $25.50 (I am a consultant...hehe:)

Chuck

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From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Subject: Re: Billy Mumy (WAS Re: DC: Doom Patrol Annotations (long))
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:49:11 GMT

angst@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Andrew Moran) writes:

>Got it wrong:

>>	Fish heads, Fish heads,
>>	Roly-poly fish heads,
> 	Fish heads, Fish heads,
>>	Eat them up, yum!

Oh, what the hell.  I'm bored...

	Fish heads, Fish heads
	Roly-poly fish heads
	Fish heads, fish heads
	Eat them up -- yum!

	In the morning, laughing at the fish heads
	In the evening, floating in the soup

	[chorus]
	
	I took a fish head out to see a movie
	Didn't have to pay to get it in

	[chorus]

	They can't play baseball; they don't wear sweaters
	They're not good dancers; they don't play drums

	[chorus]

	Roly-poly fish heads are never seen drinking cappucino 
		in Italian restaurants with Oriental women....(yeah)

	[chorus]
	[chorus] (a capella)

	Yeah...

Just another Demento-head, that's me.  Anyone for a rousing rendition of
"The Scotsman"?  =)
--------
Captain Frank A. Lauro          Commanding Officer       University of Illinois
fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu       USS ALEXA NCC 1764-D     Urbana-Champaign
--------
"The artist deals with what cannot be said in words.  The artist whose 
 medium is fiction does this *in words*.  The novelist says in words 
 what cannot be said in words."  (Ursula K. Le Guin, 1976)
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From: phillies@wpi.WPI.EDU (George D. Phillies)
Subject: Powerpax
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 04:28:58 GMT

It has been brought to my attention that there is a previous 
appearance futurewards of all-powers-in-one.  There is an issue of X-
Force, I am told, in which the Force is dumped 60 years into the 
future and meets Lightspeed/Julie, now a matronly woman in her 60s or 
70s, still with the same uniform, but with all four powers.  This is 
not Powerpax, but the concept is similar.  

In my last comment, after complimenting previous people on the thread, 
I set a very bad example in the way I condemned my own idea --- 
Powerpax as a child of Alex or Julie, born within a couple of years of 
the current era.  The idea, in my opinion, is not appropriate for the 
vehicle, but I was far too harsh in my condemnation of my own idea, 
and apologize to anyone who thought the idea was good.  Early teen 
pregnancy via more-or-less consensual carrying-on is a very serious 
difficulty in the USA, no matter that the incidence of early teen 
pregnancy (or responsibility for pregnancy while in early teenhood) 
among users of the net is probably quite small (Exclusive of rape, 
parental child abuse, and the like, which are separate though 
equally terrible events.)  It would not be inappropriate for the 
comics industry (which took on drugs, child abuse, and high-school 
dropouting in the past) to try taking on this issue.  However, Power 
Pack is the wrong group of people to have the difficulty.  

There was a mention of discussion/fan fiction on the Pack on Genie.  
Is anyone interested in summarizing, or forwarding to me via EMail?  
There seems (to judge from heavy Email here) to be an interested 
audience.  

George Phillies               (87-6 Park Avenue 
phillies@wpi.wpi.edu           Worcester MA 01609) 





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From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Subject: Re: MARVEL: X-various
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 04:27:55 GMT

hwa5@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (denni c hwang) writes:

>I believe the "short-lived alias" that Dani went through between Psyche and
>Mirage (trivia answer) was Spellbinder.  The only time-scale reference I can
>put on that name is that it was used during the X-Men/Micronauts limited
>series, whenever _that_ was meant to have happened.

And Dennis wins the prize.  Thanks for playing.
--------
Captain Frank A. Lauro          Commanding Officer       University of Illinois
fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu       USS ALEXA NCC 1764-D     Urbana-Champaign
--------
"What happened to your hair?"
 -- Boothby (Ray Walston) to Picard, TNG: "The First Duty"
From: bshremsh@smashland.nelsonville.oh.us (Ben Shremshock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: the tic
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:55:38 GMT
Organization: Smasher Land BBS


        Howdy everyone!  Has anyone read The Tick?  If you have, I'm sure 
you too have become as addicted as I am.  This is a relatively new comic 
that is so original, to me at least, that it is the best thing since 
bikinis.  Too bad it seems like a new one come out only once every three 
years, or almost at any rate.   
        If you like The Tick, let me know and tell me what you think of it.  
If you haven't read it before, do so, and you won't regret it, or maybe you 
will.  TTFN.
                                        Ben Shremshock
                        bshremsh@smashland.nelsonville.oh.us
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From: tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: The Ditko/Kirby Flame again (was Re: ditko in TTA.. it's true)
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 16:28:54 GMT

In article <DAN.92Apr4132500@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> dan@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
>*sigh* here we go again.  It's lovely to be back on r.a.c., just in
>time for another round of Ditko/Kirby-bashing.  

Well, as the person who originally posted about the Ditko Tiny Toons work,
I'd have to say there was no malice intended or that I've seen here. I like
both Ditko's and Kirby's work, and would love for Marvel to offer Ditko the
art job on the adjectiveless Spider-Man book which is currently short an
artist. However, what I was told about the TT story was that Ditko did it
in his style. Now, I just don't think that style is appropriate for TT,
any more than Jack Kirby's natural style is appropriate for those characters.
Or Bill Sienkiewicz...the thing is, Sienkiewicz showed in an issue of New 
Mutants that he could adapt his style to handle animation type characters.

No malice intended, just an observation that a Ditko style Tiny Toons would
be a bit off, just like a Dali or Picasso or Grant Wood style Tiny Toons
would be off.

"Carob works on the principle that, when mixed with the right combination of
fats and sugar, it can duplicate chocolate in color and texture. Of course, the
same can be said of dirt." --The Chocolate Book
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: jap@acsu.buffalo.edu (James A. Perreault)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Comics and Politics (was Re: Presidents in comics)
Date: 5 Apr 92 15:23:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <92092.234126MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu (Norman St. John Polevaulter) writes:
>2. Big business as evil -- nobody trusts big business, especially with
>   things like the Exxon Valdez catastrophe. (And note, of course,
>   Roxxon == Exxon, if anyone hadn't noticed!)


I'm sure thats why Roxxon has been getting alot of appearances lately,
but the company has been a part of the Marvel Universe for at least 10
years.  I don't recall when the first appeared, but I think Steve
Englehardt used them in his Captain America run.  But I could have them
confused with the Brand Corporation, which was bought by Roxxon.

Anybody know for sure?

							Jim
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From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Subject: Re: Youngblood I
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:46:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.184513.1@runt.appstate.edu> grs02500@runt.appstate.edu writes:
>Has anybody heard anything about the new youngblood series.  It hits the stands
>in a week and I just found out about it.  It appears to be a new mutant group
>in another marvel universe.  What's the deal, didn't marvel already find out
>that "New Universe's" are not hip.  But I'm looking forward to Rob's work on
>the comic.  

THIS is funny.  Imagine all those people out there figuring that the only
reason YoungBlood doesn't have crossovers with the marvel superheroes is
that they're in another "new universe".  Actually, I suppose that they
are...


Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |  one.
karthik@cs.columbia.edu    |
From: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: RAC SPLIT: YES!!!
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:49:10 GMT
Reply-To: ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host)
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC


> Article <703099445.0@selene.FidoNet> From: Ed.Almasy@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Ed Almasy)

> Where do you see snobbery?  Because they don't like the same type of comics
> that you like?

> What I find offensive are the posts from the "get a REAL newsreader" faction,
> who think that because they have the latest software available on their system
> (most likely with someone *else* maintaining it), everyone should have the
> latest software for dealing with news, and TOO BAD for those that don't.



Yep.  Those who complain that they can handle it are the biggest
opponents of the split and typically they read one or two comics a
month so it is easy to mark and read.

Remember: cut out the refernce line to every message
Net.terrorism at is best!

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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: s-men cards
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 16:25:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.143222.2666@vax1.umkc.edu> bjuland@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>One retailer I talked to said he had a friend who bought a box of x-men cards,
>and got 17 holograms and one autographed card!  Talk about lucky....
>

Bullshit.

------
Scowling Jim Cowling (jcowling@butterfly.UVic.CA)
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria
(opinions disassociated, but what can they do about them?)
"...an eternity with Beelzebub and all his hellish instruments of death shall
 be a picnic compared to five minutes with me...and this pencil."
					-E. Blackadder
------
From: dethomas@amherst.edu (The Human Torch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Starman---Last issue
Date: 31 Mar 92 04:00:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: amherst.1992Mar31.000042.1
Distribution: usa
Organization: Grucci Fireworks Inc.

In article <1992Mar29.230355.12769@oz.plymouth.edu>, a_curtis@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew M. Curtis) writes:
> 
> 	Does anyone keep up with DC's STARMAN title?  It seems that
> issue #45 is the last of the series, which leaves me quite
> disappointed.  Does anyone know why this has happened and what is in
> store for ole Will Payton in the future?

I've read Starman from day one, and I have to say that I think it has downright
sucked recently. I don't think anyone actually planned on this book lasting,
because they seem to not have planned any direction for him after the first
twenty of so issues. And I don't even want to think about this Eclipso shit
they're putting out now...

later days!
--dt

-- 
Dennis E. Thomas, Vagrant	   |    Amherst _still_ hasn't figured out 
dethomas@amhux1.amherst.edu 	   |     what do do with me, how could I 
roach@aux1.amherst.edu		   |    possibly presume to speak for them?
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Youngblood I
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:55:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.184513.1@runt.appstate.edu> grs02500@runt.appstate.edu writes:
>Has anybody heard anything about the new youngblood series.  It hits the stands
>in a week and I just found out about it.  It appears to be a new mutant group
>in another marvel universe.  What's the deal, didn't marvel already find out
>that "New Universe's" are not hip.  But I'm looking forward to Rob's work on
>the comic.  
>
>           SCREAMING BANSHEE
>
>
>
Oh shit, everyone get out your asbestos underwear. I feel a 5 alarm flame
about to start.

--------SCAVENGER
>


-- 
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get a cassette to make love to Elle McPherson  |
for $19.95, this virtual reality stuff is going|No matter where you go,
to make crack look like Sanka. -  Dennis Miller| there you are."-Buckaroo Banzai
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From: kieran@cmatter.physics.indiana.edu (kieran)
Subject: Re: about the beutirful, untouchable Rogue
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 03:03:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.182814.2900@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> nc313127@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>About Rouge,
>

   Ah!  Rouge!  I had forgotten about her!  One of the early and unfortunate
additions to the New Mutants, she was quickly dropped.

   If I remember correctly, she was quite a flirt, and had this incredible
breath-power.  Of course, when using it her cheeks would turn red, and hence
the name "Rouge".  The issue was fraught with bad puns about cosmetics (i.e.
her genetic "make-up", or when she used her mouth to adhere to the side
of an airplane, prompting the line:  "Gee, her `lips stick' to anything!").

    I think that she was abandoned because of some rather scandalous 
implications of her mutant abilities, or maybe they figured they didn't
need an "airhead" on the team.  Anyway, Claremont dropped her when he took
over the book.

>a) Didn't Xavier help her contorl her powers once so who she touched
>   wasn't KOed and only a specific power was drained/copied?
>   I hunt for it over the weekend, but maybe someone can find it faster.
>

    I think it was more of a problem when she "mouthed off" someone.
(What a horrible name to give to her powers!  What *were* they thinking?

>	b)  how do I join the Rouge fan club?  Send me info
>			Christopher A. Huff
>			208 Arena Dr.
>			Weirton,  WV  26062
>

    Hmmm... I'm not sure.  Has anyone compiled the definitive Rouge
list of appearances?  I think she was based on a Golden Age character
named "Scarlet Mouther" or something.  I remember this comic cover with
her fighting off this tentacled sea-beast that had lept on to her plane
from one speeding overhead.  (Talk about a death-wish!  Don't villains
ever attack in a reasonable manner?)  But I may be wrong on this one...

                         Kieran Mullen




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From: ad6861@sarah.albany.edu (Alex Diamantis)
Subject: DC and Tops???
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 07:37:21 GMT


	Has anyone heard anything about DC and Tops getting together to
produce comic books?  Is this just a rumor, or did I miss out on 
something?


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