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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: Need Help: San Fran./Oakland Natives
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:00:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.193936.20557@lmt.mn.org>, Alex Alexander writes:
> I will be in San Fransico from the 22nd to the 27th and was hoping to catch
> the Faith No More/Metallica/Guns N' Roses show at the Oakland Coliseum on
> Sept. 26.

I tried to e-mail, but it bounced back to me.  Sorry for tying up everyone
else...but you won't see (a) a show at Oakland on 9/26; it's on 9/24 (Thurs), 
and (b) no more Faith No More (just MetallicA/GnR).

> I need some help from anyone who lives there with the following questions:

> 1.) Are there any legitimate tickets left through TicketMaster, etc.?

They're still advertising it.  Out here TicketBastard is named BASS (Bay
Area Selective Seating, or something like that).  Call (510) 762-BASS and
check; you can put some on will call if you have a credit card.  There should
be plenty of tickets for a couple reasons:
   
   1.  The show was originally scheduled for Friday, 8/21.  Later, it was
       rescheduled for Thursday, 8/20 (due to the amount of time it takes
       to transport the set to LA and set it up for the Rose Bowl show...
       (yeah, push us out to a weeknight so that those fuckers in LA can
       have a convenient weekend show.......sheesh!).  BASS offered refunds
       since many people have to work, myself included.

   2.  A lot of people I talk to are pissed that there's no more Faith No
       More, they're sick of Axl's antics on the road and don't want to
       risk being a captive audience for him, and/or they want to see
       MetallicA when it's really "them" as opposed to Jaymz just singing
       and the guy from Metal Church playing rhythm.  So some returned
       tix for those reasons.

> 2.) If not, is it possible to buy one from a scalper outside the Colisuem?

Don't is all I can say.  Lots of people get burned here by scalpers peddling
bogus tickets, especially BASS-looking tickets.  If you can't get tix from
BASS, try going and buying up someone's extra (ie, someone who looks like
they're there to see the show, not some Oakland homeboy).

My editor dumped the rest of your questions.  If you still want answers,
try seeing if *you* can e-mail *me*...

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From: scaruffi@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Piero Scaruffi)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.music.progressive
Subject: DREAM THEATRE/ INFO PLEASE
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:42:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

1. WHo are they?
2. How may albums have they out?
3. Recommendations?
4. What label are they on?

Thnx piero
scaruffi@atc.olivetti.com
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: bertarel@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Il conte Berta)
Subject: Boh?
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:10:39 GMT

This is only a test:
I got the Guns n' roses double double 'Use your illusion'.
And so?

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.music.progressive
From: n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Barry)
Subject: Dream Theater
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:44:23 GMT

Right about the time Dream Theater's new album came out, I remember
someone saying that the band would release a CD single that included
a long, 20 minute song called "A Change Of Season".  Has this been
released yet?  Or when should we look for it?

-BarryB
From: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: DIO/Black Sabbath
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434


TK|  >Craig Goldie's only appearance on Intermission was on the studio track.
TK|  >All the live material was Vivian Campbell.   Sorry to break your bubble on
TK|  >this one, if it's been your opinion all this time, but it's in the liner
TK|  >notes for the album.
TK|  
TK|  Now I beg to differ here. I searched my Intermission albums and none
TK|  of them had anything about Viv. Also, live part of the Intermission,
TK|  was recorded in San Diego. I'm aware of only one Dio gig on '85-'86
TK|  tour in San Diego - that gig being July 25th, 1986. Intermission was
TK|  released in late August, 1986, I think, so it just and just could've
TK|  made it. Craig joined the band in March 1986.

Hmmm.  I'll have to think about where I heard that.   I'd wager some cash (not
REALLY) on this one.   I broke out the Intermission tape, and it doesn't
mention anything about this.   I can't recall now where I heard that, but I
guess I've got to prove it, eh?  :)
  
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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: COOL SHOW IN FLINT!!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:15:21 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <P2iwqB5w164w@jaflrn.UUCP> Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
>32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU babbles:
>
>> So who's the idiot, you for paying 25-35 bucks to see
>> a bad band where the lead singer does a drum solo or me
>> for paying $8 to see three good bands (Lazy Bones wasn't
>> that great) where everyone plays their own instruments...
>> and does it well unlike Metallica.
> 
>Oh, I forgot. Aerosmith clones are IN this year, arena rock is out.
>Silly me.
>But to be honest, judging by the bands that performed, it was worth all
>$8. Metallica was worth $8 -- for each hour they played.

Didn't someone mention that Tourniquet played a show where all the members 
played different instruments other than what they played on their album? Now
that's weird, but that would be really fun, too. Guess there's never a dull 
moment with them, huh?

Get PSYCHO SURGERY if you don't have it. Weird thrash, but it's that piece
of string tossed down to rescue the rapidly falling state of thrash these days.

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: Doc vs Don (who's the biggest idiot)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 01:05:34 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

<32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

> There were 4 bands in flint so which one did you like since
> you said three of them were amusinf...probably Faster
> Pussycat, how could you not like such a great band.
 
I know I have trouble liking them. Then again, I like originality
in my music as opposed to the "Hey, Aerosmith's cool! Let's be
them" philosophy Faster Pussycat has obviously adopted in look
and music.
 
In a few years, all we'll remember about "Faster Pussycat" is Russ
Meyer and "...Kill, Kill!"
 
--Don

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From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: WANTED: METALLICA SONG
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:34:20 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep10.040744.17109@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.003741.7190@cs.rose-hulman.edu> juergerl@o231-27.Rose-Hulman.Edu. (Robert L. Juergens) writes:
>>Does anyone know where I could find LET IT LOOSE? I have all of  
>>Metallica's official CD's and it's not on any of them. I think it may have  
>>been on the bootleg Live and Dangerous in Japan. I'd appreciate and info  
>>someone may have on this, including where I could find it.
>>
>>Thnx...
>>
>>RLJ
>>
>The only "Let It Loose" I can think of is a song by a New Wave Of British Heavy
>Metal band called Savage on their LOOSE'N'LETHAL LP, but maybe Metallica also
>covered it as Jaymz and Larz were/are big fans of the NWOBHM. Savage does also
>sound a bit like Metallica (actually, the Black Album reminds me a bit of 
>some of Savage's darker songs like "Cry Wolf" and "Berlin.")
>
>philip
>
>"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
>Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
>GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
>e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu

	Damn It all to hell!!!   Could you post some lyrix from "Cry Wolf",
notably the chorus.  I have a vinyl set of Metallica practice sessions w/
Dave Mustaine and John Bush giving vocals a shot.  Among the usual stuff is
Mechanix (apparently predates Four Horsemen, tho I like horsemen better),
and 4 songs with Bush: (Time to) Cry Wolf, Run But You Can't Hide (about 
Conan, not the cheezy Armored Saint song on Decline of Western Civ.),
Battlezone, and Day of Assassins.  I am literally pulling my hair out to get
better copies of these.  I've even given up on getting Metallica versions.
If anyone knows anything about these songs, please e-mail me.

				Thanx,
					Raythrax
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: Who Won?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:40:05 GMT

Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:

>1) Best video

 It went to Van Halen.  Viewer's Choice went to Chili Peppers.

>2) Best hard rock/metal

 It went to Metallica- Enter Sandman.  Howard Stern presented the award (with
 Luke Perry) as Fartman (the character in his new movie, I think) and he was
 hilarious.


-- 
 = U   U     IIIII =================Les Claypool- I will rape your personality==
 = U   U       I    John Meseke              Pummel you with my own philosophy==
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 = UUUUU     IIIII  jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu===To make you all a bit like me.==
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Top 5 metal groups
From: jwebb@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:09:44 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

Here are my picks:
1)  Anthrax--suprised no one else has thought so yet
2)  Metallica
3)  Black Sabbath--influences for the above two and countless others
4)  Kiss--influence to thrax and others
5)  Tie between Corrosion of Conformity/Megadeth/Alice in Chains

BTW, no particular order on the list.


-- 
Jeffery D. Webb

JWEBB@OREAD.CC.UKANS.EDU

"Charlie Don't Surf!"
	--Kilgore
	  Apocalypse Now
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Reviews of recent releases
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:41:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.232640.1123@news2.cis.umn.edu> kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.142805.2265@dvorak.amd.com> jeffs@dvorak.amd.com (Jeff Sobotka) writes:
>>>Personally though, I prefer "Power Metal" <containing the incredible "We'll
>>>Meet again"> to either of them.
>>
>>I have to agree with this. Even though I love both Vulgar and Cowboys, 'We'll
>>Meet Again' I think is still their best song yet.
>>
>
>Great song.  Too bad the CD also contains "Proud to be Loud" by Marc Ferrari.
>Pantera's WORST song.
>
>>-Jeff-
> 
>-Rick

Marc Ferrari?!?? the geek who backs up Tia Carrerre in "Waynes World". Now I
know why I never liked that song! Honestly though, I always considered 
"Nothing On But The Radio" to be Pantera's Worst song. But I have a soft 
spot for stupid shit, so that one still gets played from time to time.
Oh well.
	
					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: phil@news.ccutah.edu (Phillip Neiswanger)
Subject: Re: The Poserkiller's back!!
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 00:34:07 GMT

maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji) writes:
:
: [ A pathetic attempt to reneg on his original posting.  Come on Maple we
:   all know you worshiped him.  We just want to know how you worshiped
:   him. ]
: 
: DIE POSER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      ^^^^^
	Your problem is worse than it seemed.  I think your future posts
	should be to sci.psychology where you can get information about
	your suicidal tendencies.

: 
: C++ ya,
  ^^^
	There's that nerdy part of you showing again.

: 
: Maple  

				Phil
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 9 Sep 1992 19:14:25 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Tapes for Sale(Not to Lee Baker!)

I have the following tapes for saleAll are $3 plus
.50 cents for shipping.  This offer is not to Lee
Baker who tends to rip people off on these kind of deals.
Email if you're interested.

JUDAS PRIEST  Stained Glass
              Point of Entry
              Defenders of the Faith
              Ram It Down
              Hell Bent for Leather
              Rocka-Rolla
              British Steel

Tora Tora     Surprise Attack

WHITESNAKE   Whitesnake

Hericane Alice   Tear Down the Walls

King Diamond     Them

KEEL        Keel
            The Right To Rock

WHITESNAKE       Slide it In

Quuensryche       The Warning

Dokken         Beast from the East

KINSGS X     Gretchen Goes To Nebraska






Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: DIO/Black Sabbath
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:05:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.175718.14806@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>>
>I have a feeling Vivian Campbell joined Def Leppard to get rid of his image as
>a virtuoso guitarist who can't hold a steady job. Look at it. Def Leppard 
>writes music with very short solos, thus cutting out on "virtuoso time."

In one private interview of Viv he said that he couldn't afford
another year without being in some kind of successful band. His solo
project didn't go too well; he couldn't make money to live.

>I rather liked LOCK UP THE WOLVES, although that may be because it's the only 
>Dio album to which I listened seriously. My suitemate brought his entire Dio
>collection so now I'll get to listen to them all (too bad he doesn't have any
>Rainbow or Elf. They seem rather interesting). One thing I hate about WOLVES
>is that every song is the same tempo more or less and have the same "feel"
>to it and not quite as diverse as more traditional metal that Dio seems to
>have co-pioneered calls for. His voice still sounds awesome on this recording
>although, yes, it's not as impressive as his earlier works.

In my opinion Ronnie's voice is a bit tired on this album. Or then it
is because of poor mixing. One thing with LUTW is that most songs are
too easily forgotten.

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Skid Row
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:13:42 GMT

In article <s7iwqB6w164w@jaflrn.UUCP> Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
>stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Stevens) writes:
>
>> >In article <03HgqB1w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!koden@well.sf.ca.us wr
>> >>Anyone know if they're releasing a new album or not? And i was looking 
>> >>through the transcripts for the songs on "Slave to the Grind" and came 
>> >>across a song named "Beggar's Day". Anyone know where this song went 
>> >>and/or if this song will be ona new album?
>> >
>> >Beggar's Day was on the "clean edit" version of "Slave to the Grind", in pla
>> >of Get the Fuck Out.
>> 
>> I wouldn't get to worried about a new Skid Row albumn for awhile. Give 'em
>> a break, it hasn't been out THAT long.
> 
>According to Dave Dooley's releases, they're releasing an album in October
>called B-Sides Ourselves.
> 
>--Doc

It's going to be an E.P. with covers of all of their favorite punk tunes.
I heard it was going to be released at the end of the month (Sep).

	-Casey
hopkins@agora.rain.com
n
>
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Kiss Tour
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:01:23 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

>As for Kiss not being metal, they've sure got more metallic tendencies
>than the other bands that get discussed here! (Guns N Roses, for example)
> 
As for who is metal and who isn't, that should be in the opinion of who is
listening to them. If you go purely by heavy metal being music which uses a
distortion pedal throughout most of the song and "heavy metal band" meaning a
band who almost all the time plays music via distortion pedal, Kiss, GNR, and
Faster Pussycat most certainly are metal. I hate GNR (but I thought APPETITE
was a brilliant work. My opinion is they went downhill from there) and I
get bored from listening to Faster Pussycat, and Kiss I like, but if you think
they're metal, they should be posted on this group. Just 'cause you don't like
a band (IF YOU CAN READ, PAY ATTENTION TO THIS MAPLE. IF YOU CAN SPELL "READ"
YOU SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THIS. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO CAN SPELL "READ"
PAY ATTENTION TO THIS.) that doesn't mean they're not metal. If you don't like
the band, hit "n" and go on. It's so easy and you don't annoy people with
constant complaining all the time (like Maple).

Also note that Maple originally started this with "Kiss isn't metal." He
obviously didn't listen to anything Ace did or even the new album. So Kiss
didn't become Bolt Thrower. Big deal. They're still metal, despite the albums
they had in the '80s. Even on those albums I'm sure they had real good metal
songs that many of us would never have found it because the singles tended to
be such a turn-off. GNR is also, in my opinion, though I hate them, heavy
metal. So Axl Rose is an asshole. They still play with lots of distortion
pedals, etc., as does Faster Pussycat. They should be permitted to be discussed
here without people who don't think so flaiming back and forth.

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: eje47614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sir Tanon Drister)
Subject: Re: Ozzy Concert
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:32:06 GMT

For the most part, the Ozzy concert in Pittsburgh sounds like the one I saw
in Chicago, with a few minor changes.  Of course he was good when I saw him
despite the fact that the concert was at the World Theater (WAY beyond sucks),
and the band was also great.  I was quite surprised when Zakk actually left the
stage and actually went out into the crowd while playing a solo!  Randy
Castillo's drum work was fantastic, ESPECIALLY his majorly extended solo while
the crew was working on a problem with Zakk's wireless.

All in all, it was amazing.
BTW - We never saw Ozzy's wife...he brought his kids out during 'Mama,' but
that's it.

 
-- 
Most of this is memory now...			 - 'Roads to Madness'
I've gone too far to turn back now.	   from Queensryche's 'Warning'
I'm not quite what I thought I was,
but, then again, I may be more...		- Sir Tanon
From: 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: RE:Top 5 metal groups
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:18:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.161714.17850@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick) writes:
> 
> 
> This ought to get a flame or 2:
> 
> 1) Dokken
> 2) Queensryche
> 3) Metallica
> 4) Europe
> 5) Dio
> 
> 	All 5 of these bands were formed in the early 80's and all we're  
> part of the original Metal Wave in the mid-eighties (what I like to refer  
> to classic metal).
> 
> 						MJD
Boy, Maple will have fun with this one :) 
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Top 5 metal groups
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:20:44 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Sep14.215810.25223@csi.jpl.nasa.gov> cub@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Ray Miller) writes:
>I'm sure that this set of selections will be flamed endlessly, but those are
>the risks you take when posting.
>The classification of these bands as metal or not is also open to discussion,
>however, I believe we will see a clear differentiation in age amongst those
>dissenting.

Really, I think "heavy metal" is just relative to who's listening and wose 
definition it is. If you go buy "heavy metal" meaning music with distortion
guitar through at least most of the song and "heavy metal band" as a band 
that plays "heavy metal" as I previously defined it above, all the groups
below are in fact heavy metal. 
>
>1. Ted Nugent
Don't know much about him. Solo yes you could call him heavy metal. His stuff
with Damn Yankees ultimately ends up in the field where Def Leppard, Skid Row,
Poison, et al fall in and that controversy I think has been beaten to death
on this net with no resolution at all.

>2. Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush
No idea who these guys are.

>3. UFO
I hear they have a reputation for not being as heavy as they could have been
given the people that were in the band, but I guess you could call them metal.
Why not?

>4. Ozzie Osbourne
True, NO MORE TEARS is nothing like BARK AT THE MOON or BLIZZARD OF OZZ, but
if you still use the definition of "heavy metal" given above, Ozzy still fits.
Personally I don't like the new album, but that seems to be common opinion as
well.

>5. Metallica
Just 'cause they didn't put out a speed metal album doesn't mean they're not
metal. Really. Megadeth also was a heavy metal / speed metal crossover and
no one picks on them.

>Just food for thought, feel free to flame away.
>
Not a flame, just my views.

philip
"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu