From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:58:40 GMT
Reply-To: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com
Organization: Abiogenesis 4 Less

eg1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Elizabeth Cornelia Green) writes:
# Boy do you have some messed up ideas!  
# You think abortions should be used as a source of birthcontrol if
# necessary?!?  And that the practice of abstinence is a ridiculous
# solution?!?!!  Wow you're confused.  

Howdy, Ms. Green!  Sure am pleased to meet you!  Gosh, I sure love
this flame group we got here.  I really *REALLY* hope the flamage I'm
about to dole out here won't put you off. :-) :-) :-) !-)

# I (obviously) agree with the other side of the argument.

Question: *which* `other' side?

# Abstinence is the only good method of birth control.  It's obviously the
# only 100% certain method.

Okay okay okay okay -- I get it.  You don't really mean `birth
control' when you write `birth control' do you?  No you obviously
don't.  I mean, abortion *is* birth control.  Ain't no two ways about
it.  Abortion is specifically designed to prevent birth.

Maybe you meant to write `contracepton,' no?

Of course, unless you *ENJOY* getting flamed by pedantic little twits
like me, you probably also meant to qualify that by writing, ``It's
obviously the only 100% certain method of preventing conception by
consensual sex.''

# If a couple considers themselves adult enough to engage in sex, they
# should face the adult responsibilities that might accompany the action.
# And making sure that the child that results from your actions is cared
# for is an obvious responsibility.  I strongly believe that killing that
# child through an abortion is not facing your responsibilities.

Thanks for sharing.  A piece of advice: don't have an abortion.  You
won't like what your critics say about you.

# Sure, sex may be fun, but be prepared to deal with all that it
# entails.

What?  You're *UNCLEAR* on the matter?  *Please*, if all you're going
to do is spout off on subjects you know nothing about, you should
realize that it's courteous to put something like this at the top of
your article (maybe even in the Subject line, or next to your name in
the From line):

	``I am clue-challenged -- please *HUG* me''

# No Sex is Safe Sex.

Hmmm.  By transitive property, we get `No Safe Sex' -- coincidence or
conspiracy?  You make the call.
 
# Everybody knows that there isn't any condom that guarantees no pregnancy
# will result.  And they don't prevent the horrible diseases that can
# result from sex, either.

There isn't *anything* that guarantees that.  Not even your precious
`abstinence' guarantees that.  GET USED TO IT.

# Hope I don't sound too old fashioned.  But I'm only nineteen and I've
# already been able to figure this out.  What's the matter with the rest
# of you?

Oh, no... you don't sound the least bit olde fashioned.  I can smell
the packing grease from here.



Or did you have anything to say about `rights?'

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+---------------------------+  ``I guess the government that robs its
| J H Woodyatt              |  own people earns the future it is
| bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com |  preparing for itself.''
+---------------------------+                             -- Mark Twain
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