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From: gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com (Stanley)
Subject: Alabama Recruiting
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:26:06 GMT

There are two seasons in Alabama,  football season and recruiting
season.
Feb 3 is the earliest date a student can sign a letter of intent.
Players with a * by their name are exceptional. They are projected
to contribute as freshmen unless they are redshirted.

Verbal commitments
QB *Freddie Kitchens	6'3"	220	4.8
OL *Charles Friend	6'3"	275	4.9
LB *Fernando Davis	6'2"	222	4.7
TE/LB Patrick Hape	6'4"	235	4.8


These are leaning to bama:
QB/FS Ken Alvis		6'3"	205	4.6
DB Jason Bowers		6'	190	4.5
WR Kenneth Clay		6'2"	174	4.6
TE *Jesse McCovery	6'3"	250	4.7 top TE in the south good
                                            blocker
DT Maurice Morrissette	6'4"	270	4.9
LB Rod Orr		6'4"	241	4.4
OL Robert Poole		6'3"	290	5.0
DB Taurus Turner	6'1"	193	4.5
C Steve Wagner		6'6"	250	5.1
DT Micah Anderson	6'5"	275	5.2
RB *Derrick Beaver	5'6"	160	4.4 quick,  top small back
                                            in south ?
DT *Billy Beron		6'4"	260	4.8
LB/FB Jason Coffey	6'1"	220	4.6
NG *Kelton Dixon	6'3"	306	5.0 immoveable,  good pass rusher
WR Rod Wright		6'	175	4.6
WR Octavaus Barnes	6'3"	185	4.4
DT/OT *Derek Delk	6'3"	275	5.0



These are some of the blue chip players considering Bama. All of
these are players who can possibily contribute as early as their freshman
year. Put a * by each one.

OG Willie Anderson	6'6"	290 	4.9 bama player of the year
					    one of the best in the nation
RB Curtis Alexander	6'	190	4.4 tenn player ofthe year and 
					    top back in the south
DB Derrick Steagall	6'2"	195	4.3 ga player of the year
LB Melvin Dansby	6'4"	240	4.6
QB Lance Tucker		6'	173	4.6 great natural athlete
DB Marcus Campbell	6'2"	180	4.3
LB Sam Cowart		6'2"	235	4.6
LB Reinhard Wilson	6'3"	220	4.5
LB Paul Pickett		6'3"	218	4.7
RB Warren Dunn		5'9"	155	4.4
RB Kevin Franklin	5'11"	175	4.3
QB Trot Nixon		6'2"	190	4.4
DB/RB Travis Cozart	6'2"	210	4.4
LB Derrick Johnson	6'2"	235	4.6
OT Trey Teague		6'5"	270	4.9
LB Jason Walter		6'4"	225	4.7

This guy was leaning to Bama but is now going to Auburn:
DE Ed Walker		6'5	235	4.8


Roll Tide!
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From: landolt@nexus.yorku.ca (Paul Landolt)
Subject: Final CFL AP TOP 25 ratings, anyone?
Originator: landolt@nexus.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:06:22 GMT

Could someone please post the final AP Top25 Rankings.
(And, while you're at it, the scores of all the bowl games)


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From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: getting a perspective
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:12:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

>>this year's batch of hurricanes turned out to be pretty mediocre.
>>
>>me

 >I wouldn't call 11-1 and #3 in the nation pretty mediocre...
 >
 >dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Dan Brown)

by your own standards it is.  arizona syracuse florida-state.

ok
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From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Subject: Re: Bettis to NFL?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:53:26 GMT

In <1993Jan5.215512.18674@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:

>	Has anyone heard any hard information if Jerome Bettis has decided to
>go to the NFL? From the talk during the Cotton Bowl it sounded like he would.

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An AP story posted on a for-profit online service said he had announced his
intention to go pro.

I think  Denny Green of Minnesota is probably drooling over this
announcement, since he likes to run the ball so much, and has seen him
(from the otehr side).  They need a QB more, though.
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From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject:  FSU/Bama pact (to JASMITH)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:53:53 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division


Alright, per our agreement I'm sitting down to my plate of crow.  FSU lost to
Miami fair and square and 'Bama took Miami apart and raped their cheerleaders.
The MNC rightfully belongs to Alabama since they played in the toughest 
conference this year (5 wins out of 6 bowl games) and beat previously unbeaten
Miami.  The Canes looked pathetic against the rugged 'Bama defense and the great
Heisman Trophy winner looked like a grade school sand lot quarterback.

Now the agreement said something like I am to pull for 'Bama against Miami and
FSU from now on.  Well, I will pull for ANYONE against Miami, but I will always
pull for my alma mater FSU against everyone else.  Alabama was better this year
and I sincerely hope FSU can finally take Miami out next year to get their own
shot at Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.  Until then, we FSU fans will just have to
console ourselves with yet another top 4 finish and finally finishing ahead of 
Miami in the final polls (for that I truly am grateful to Alabama!)


David (man crow tastes like crap!) Head
From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Trying to discredit Alabama
Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:45:51 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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The University of Alabama football team won the national championship.  They
played great football and showed class throughout the game.  Unfortunately,
there seems to be a conspiracy on this net.  >>Some<< posters are attempting to
portray Alabama fans as being sore winners.  Some posts are getting ridiculous.

I am one of the few who will admit that I was rooting for Miami.  However,
along with everyone else, I praise Alabama for being a great team.  The
football team earned everyone's respect.  Unfortunately, that respect is
decreasing the more I read this newsgoup.
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From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Sugar Bowl Thoughts
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <79606@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes...
#Fine, so you live in the Blowhard Universe, and in this universe
#Notre Dame would have been invited to the Sugar Bowl this 
#year rather than #1 Miami.  Whether you take this point of
#view or mine, the #1 vs. #2 matchup still wouldn't have happened
#this year without the bowl coalition.

Personally, I don't think either ``universe'' is particularly rational.
Last year, given a probable Florida loss to FSU (which in retrospect we 
know didn't happen, but pre-selection it seemed very likely), a game between 
#1/2, undefeated Miami and ~#10, 9-2 Florida would have been eaten up in the
ratings by the balanced ~#11 Nebraska against perennial draw Notre Dame 
(these rankings are approximations of what the common wisdom said would
happen).  This year we had none of that.  Alabama came in to what would
have been Pick'em Day (~Nov 21) 10-0 and ranked #2 with only weak Auburn
and topsy-turvy Florida to go and Miami was 9/10-0 and ranked #1 with
either Syracuse and NaziSU or just NaziSU to go.  Neither looked like
they would lose again and the matchup probably would have been made.

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From: richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: Florida IS the College Football State!
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:34:49 GMT

Ron Frank (ron_frank.lds.loral.com) wrote:
: There is a lot of discussion on who the college football state is.  Let the
: statistics show that, of recent, it has been and still is the state of
: Florida!  This year's results - having all three of the colleges in the top
: ten - demonstrates this. 
          .
          .
          . 
: The fact that Texas and California export more high school football players
: than Florida proves that there are a lot of good high school players in
: those states,  but not college players!!  Look at the win/loss percentage
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: of Texas and California colleges versus Florida colleges.  How did the Pac
: Ten and the SWC do in their respective bowls this year?  It may shed some
: light!

How many major colleges are in the state of Florida compared to the number
of major colleges in Texas and California?  

In Florida, you've got FSU, Miami, and Florida competing for a good number
of bluechip college players.

In California, and if I leave someone's school off this list I apologize,
there is San Diego St., UCLA, USC, Cal-Berkeley(sp?), Stanford, Fresno St.,
San Jose St.;  UDub pulls a lot of their players from California.  
I'm sure that the Oregon and Arizona schools do, also.

In Texas, there is Univ. of Houston, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Texas Tech,
TCU, SMU, and Rice.  Look at the University of Oklahoma's roster;
at least half are from Texas. I won't even bring up Notre Dame and other
prominent colleges that recruit nationally, they probably pull from 
Texas, California, and Florida equally.  

If there are no Texans on the rosters of FSU, Miami, and Florida, then your
statement MIGHT have some merit;  I know that Jessie Armstead and Kevin
Williams (Miami) went to high school in Dallas, and I'm sure there are
Texans on the roster of FSU and Florida, too.

: I am sorry that some of us out here in NetLand don't have access to Texas
: newspapers.  Regardless, a bit of bias is expected.

Whatever.


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From: hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel)
Subject: Re: More Bowl comments
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 15:48:55 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1993Jan4.191009.15402@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
>In article <jSc=_K-@engin.umich.edu>, hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel) writes:
>|>                                                                   Mo
>|> >is now 2-1 in bowls since taking over for Bo (he lost a couple 
>|> >subbing for Bo back when he was offensive coordinator).  
>|> 
>|> Check this for me.  Michigan won the Hall of Fame Bowl in '88(I
>|> think) when Mo was subbing for Bo.  Remember that forth down pass
>|> from Taylor/Brown(I don't remember which one) to Kolesar(sp?).
>|> A good game and a victory over Alabama.
>
>Yep, I think you're right about Mo coaching that one.  I got the years
>wrong when thinking of when Bo missed his second bowl.  I confused when
>Michigan lost the Rose in 1987 to Arizona State to the 1988 Hall of Fame
>Bowl win.  Mo did lose Michigan's 1972 Rose Bowl when Bo was in the 
>hospital, right? (it was either that one or the 1970 Rose that Mo lost)

One last thing:  Mo was probably defensive coordinator back in the
early seventies.  I'm not sure what Rose Bowl it was , btw.

John Hajel
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From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 107--final
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:23:42 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

In article 3DA@engin.umich.edu, martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) writes:
>	Here are my final results, all included.
>
>	Team                    Record          Weight
>	----                    ------          ------
>	1 Alabama               13-0            2.35
>	2 Florida State         11-1            2.34
>	3 Notre Dame            10-1-1          2.20
>	4 Washington            9-3             2.11
>	5 Miami Fl              11-1            2.09
>	6 Stanford              10-3            2.03
>	7 Michigan              9-0-3           1.99
>	8 Texas A&M             12-1            1.94
>	9 Syracuse              10-2            1.89
>	10 Georgia              10-2            1.84
>-------------------------------------------------------
>
>Your system has some obvious flaws.....Washington is not better
>than Michigan in any sense this year. The game didn't prove
>it nor did their records. 3 losses - no losses, it's a simple
>concept. Stanford is not better than Michigan either.....
>3 losses - no losses, it's a simple concept.
>
>Clearly the Pac Ten is a better conference than the Big 10
>top to bottom. In fact, they don't even compare....however,
>the best team in the Big ten this year, Michigan, was better
>than any Pac Ten team.
>
>How can you put Florida State ahead of Miami? Miami played a
>tougher schedule, won all their games until the end of season,
>and (for Christ's sake you morons) beat Florida State.
>
>You need to get your head out of your ass......
>

Guess again Wolverine burger (what was left of Michigan last year after
Florida State humiliated them in Ann Arbor)!  Florida State played every
bit as tough a schedule as Miami and only lost one game by 3 points at
the end ... a game in which Miami players chewed their fingernails hoping
for the field goal to miss.  Put another way, FSU lost close to a higher
ranked team in their home stadium.  Now Miami lost to a lower ranked team
at a site that was slanted toward Alabama but not Tuscaloosa or Birmingham.
Florida State deserved #2, LIKE IT OR NOT! 

D. Head
FSU '91

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From: roy@proteus.b11.ingr.com (Roy Passmore)
Subject: Re: Miami Sugar Bowl Question
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, Al.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:43:26 GMT

In article <C0Er8u.77n@encore.com>, jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
|> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Hi.  Wow, what an exiting game that was!  Their is no doubt that Alabama
|> >is the
|> >best team in college football this year.  
|> 
|> >My question is if Miami is the Hurricanes why is there mascot a bird?
|> 
|> >GT
|> 
|> Probably for the same reason Bama's is an elephant !!!    :-)
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Back in the early thirtys, the Alabama lineman were huge when compared to some
of the northern and western teams. A sports announcer during that time
stated these were the largest lineman that he has ever seen on one team. And was
quoted saying, "The RED ELEPHANT'S tips the field.  

ROLL TIDE ROLL!
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   roy@proteus.b11.ingr.com                                
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From: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Re: Miami strategy?
Reply-To: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com  
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:47:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.175908.16742@newssun.med.miami.edu>, dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan4.162214.16975@cbnews.cb.att.com> tpp@cbnews.cb.att.com (thomas.p.pschar) writes:
|> >
|> >
|> >Here's the real question.  Why didn't Miami stack about eight guys on the
|> >line of scrimmage every down during the second half?  Or was somebody actually
|> >afraid Alabama might pass?
|> 
|> That is the real question.  Miami's defensive strategy was questionable at 
|> best -- Bama's QB was never tested the entire game!  
|> 
|> That's one of the reasons I think that Erikson was out-coached.  I think 
|> UM should have crowded the line defensively and gone to short, quick 
|> passing plays on offesnse, neither or which happened.  Stallings, on the
|> other hand, was completely prepared for the UM offesive attack and 
|> completely worked the UM defense with (oh my God, I couldn't believe it)
|> running plays!  Wow!
|> 
|> I heard that the officials told the UM coaching staff before the game that 
|> no penalties would be given for a noisy crowd.  Is that true?  From what I
|> understand, if they offensive captain complains three times about noise, the
|> defense gets penalized ... if so, do the referees have the authority to 
|> nullify that rule?  The noise was certainly a help for Alabama.  Despite 
|> what many of the netters think, much of Gino's unimpressive play can be
|> attributed to miscommunications with his receivers (I agree, three inter-
|> ceptions leading to 21 points is the sign of bad play).
|> 
|> Dan
	EXCUSE ME? If anyone had ref. help it was UM.  After the baby had
	his candy cane taken on our 5 yard line. AND we got a penalty for
	unsportsmanlike conduct when Lassic (that's MR. Lassic to you)
	spun the ball, but when your no-named-running back spun the ball
	after gracefully traversing 80? yards, there was no flag?!?  It was
	obvious that the refs bias and they can do any damn thing they please.

	ch"A"mps  34
	ch"UM"mps 13

	Tony (not usually obnoxious(sp?) Bowman
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: J, J, & J - Conspicuous in their absense
Keywords: Have they unsubscribed?! i hope so
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:55:30 GMT
Organization: .

(Guy McConnell) writes:
>
>    Apparently, some of Miami's most vocal athletic supporters are following
>coach Erickson's example and dropping out of sight.  We have heard nothing from
>my beloved purveyors of fact and wisdom, The Three "J's" since The Truth was
>made known unto them.  

Well, I've got two J's to throw in.

J.J.'s Fastest Three Minutes in Bowl Recaps:

 1. REAUXLLLLL TIDE!!!! (and SEC pride)  Aside from my tigers two measly
wins and Houston reaping payback from SMU, this was THE _sweetest_ game
of the year.  I'm still in awe of Bama's secondary.  Teague's raping of
Lamar Thomas was (as has been said) the most incredible single-handed
defensive feat I've seen in college football.  I don't know if he's a
concensus All-American, but he made my list.  And since I considered
Langham better than Teague, I'll throw him in, too.  To the blowhard
sympathizer who said it wouldn't have happened if Thomas had the ball in
his left hand:  DID YOU SEE THE PLAY?  Teague barely broke stride, the
ball NEVER touched the ground or even left Teague's hand.  How would the
sidelines have come into play?  

    Bama silenced a lot of Miami media hype (thanks you Lee Corso!) and 
accomplished an incredible feat:   Its been my strong opinion that another 
SEC MNC would be a long time coming simply because of the changes to 
7 and 8-game SEC slates.  UGA and Bama last won with 6-game schedules.
Of course now, if you win 8, you have to win NINE.  I didn't think it
would be done any time soon but Bama proved me wrong.

Another note:
  Bama edges LSU by 20.
  Bama pounds UM by 21.  :)

 2. Aggies?  Well, I finally _have_ to pull for the Aggies against the
Frenchmen and _they_ let me down.  Say what you will, but Lou Holtz
continues to be the guy you _don't_ want to face on NYD.  He just
prepares too well.  They talked trash all week about hounding Pullig and
lived up to it on Friday.  Of course, A&M seems to be called a 'young'
team every year, so maybe.....

 3. SEC pounds the pac-10.   Very impressive defensive showing by Ole
Miss (ranked 6th overall), Bama, UGA, Miss ST.....OOPS!  Sorry Magee.
You dawgs really popped a boner!   And against a former Tulane coach no
less.


--J.J.
(one happy camper until Sunday came along)
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From: klrklr@iastate.edu (Kevin L Rens)
Subject: Quote of the day
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:50:07 GMT


Taken from The Des Moines Register:

Why were the Cotton Bowl folks so defensive abouth picking No. 5
Notre Dame, instead of No. 3 Florida State, to play undefeated
and fourth-ranked Texas A & M?

Judging by the ease of Notre Dame's victory, they should of said,
"Hey, lay off, we're simply trying to find the best match-up.  
We're afraid Florida State will murder the Aggies."

                                           KLR
                                           CCE
                                           ISU
 
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From: betz@gozer.idbsu.edu (Andrew Betz)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Review (1-4-93)
Keywords: Big Ten
Organization: SigSauer Fan Club 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:07:18 GMT

In article <C0E57x.2D8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>Postseason:
>Betz		0-4 (for shame!)

now really, that's a good record if you just take the opposite
of my predictions (grin).  the only one i *really* blew was calling
penn state.

drew 
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