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From: barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: IPS:ANGOLA: RESUPPLYING REBELS, PRETORIA RETURNS TO ITS BAD OLD WAYS
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:37:29 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
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Area: Latin America
Title: ANGOLA: RESUPPLYING REBELS, PRETORIA RETURNS TO ITS BAD OLD WAYS


johannesburg, dec 4 (ips/eddie koch) -- the crisis in angola
where government forces are poised to mount an all out military
offensive against unita rebels next week, looks set to reopen
old hostilities between pretoria and its neighbouring states.

a damaging row in the region is brewing as at least four
african countries have sent serious protests to pretoria in the
past week complaining that their airspace has been violated by
south african planes flying clandestine supplies to jonas
savimbi's rebel army.

the frontline states have called an emergency meeting in
harare early next week to discuss the security situation in
angola and reports that the south african military are again
backing their old unita ally. diplomatic relations between
angola and south africa, established less than a year ago, now
appear to be in tatters.

professor rob davies, co-director of the centre for southern
african studies at the university of the western cape, says the
move to renewed civil war in angola has serious implications for
south africa as well as the region.

''it is clear that some in the south african government see
the regional situation turning against them with the (ruling)
mpla election victory in angola, threats to the regime of their
ally, hastings banda in malawi, and the prospect of an electoral
defeat for renamo (rebels) in mozambique'', says davies.

at the centre of the row are the reports that south african
military aircraft have violated the airspace of namibia,
botswana, angola and zimbabwe in a concerted effort to supply
unita during the rebels recent offensive.

thursday, namibia lodged a formal complaint that south
african c-130 transport planes were routinely flying
unauthorised missions from south africa into angola.

this followed a complaint from zimbabwe wednesday detailing
violations by south african fighter aircraft tracked by radar at
the main thornhill airbase. earlier protests were lodged by
botswana and angola.

the speculation is that the fighters spotted over zimbabwe
were providing cover for higher flying transporters supplying
unita in northern angola. there are claims that south africa has
flown at least 50 c-130 missions into angola unloading men and
material including tanks and the deadly g-5 long-range cannon.

pretoria has confirmed the capture by the angolans at the
weekend of a cargo plane in the central region, with false red
cross insignia. it has refused to confirm whether the two south
african crew members were military personel. a third man,
angolan, was carrying a namibian passport. (end/ips/ek/oa/92)
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From: mbarroso@watson.princeton.edu (Margarida Barroso)
Subject: Re: Dangerous Statements ....:
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:52:44 GMT

In article <565@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
 My friend went to
> study Chenmical Eng. in cuba. The professors hand translated American
> text book and gave their students xerox copies. This is pathetic, we
> don't need to pay the penalty for the limited accessibilty of Portuguese
 
Cubans speak spanish!!!!!!!!
May you should go I learn some more about the world geography!!!!!!!!!!!
From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: IPS:ZIMBABWE: FILM CENSORSHIP, NO SEX PLEASE WE'RE ZIMBABWEAN
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:42:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec14.132257.15625@sei.cmu.edu> firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) writes:
>In article <Bz6sxo.2tp@ddsw1.mcs.com> barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart) writes:
>
>>for example, argues bruce waters, critically-acclaimed films
>>by african-american directors such as 'boyz in the hood' and 'new
>>jack city' were rejected here this year.
>
>Good for Zimbabwe, say I.
>
>It is the values and attitudes portrayed in films such as these, and
>their mindless glorification by the sickos in the mass media, that
>have made the African-Americans one of the most oppressed black people
>on earth.  Any nation that wants to keep this filth well away from
>its cinemas, and the hearts and minds of its young people, is to be
>applauded.


This is questionable logic. To start with, Boyz in the Hood (which I have seen
and apprecited extremely) absolutely does not depict any violence that 
has not been in another movie. Way back in the sixties, in Zambia (my home)
and ZIMBABWE, just across the river, this same censorship committee happily
and eagerly showed, free of charge, in unrban townships, villages and cinemas
movies like King Kong and Tarzan.  These movies are very popular even today.
Yet they depict far, far more mindless, unprovoked violence than does Boyz.

The difference is that they are made in that blameless theme of the white 
man civilizing the primitive black men. The pogroms in which a handful of
"innocent" white massacre savage and murderous natives always form the 
finale. This is true of even of movies like King Solomons Mine which I saw
in Africa a few years ago.

The reason why this is happening is that the censorship board of Zimbabwe is
run by a small clique of racist white men. They do not want to see a black
man do well (I know this because up to anout ten years ago, many of these
people and their kind lived in Zambia). Africans in Zimbabwe, and else where
on the continent are dying to see movies just like Boyz in the Hood. Eddie
Murphy, Richard Roundtree are the biggest American stars in Africa. Movies
like 48 hrs, Beverly Hills Cops all played to packed houses for monts at a
stretch. 

I do not think that a white man has any place deciding matters of African
culture. Even in this country, black people to a considerable extent do
not comfortably identify with white culture. 

Many white people do not want to see black people become closer. The reas
ons for this are many. One important one is that in Africa, and to far
greater extent in America, blacks are still in someone what of a state of
dependency to the white man. Blacks closing their ranks heighten the 
prospect of whitemen becoming more irrelevant to black existence.

Consequently, you find blackmen on both sides of the Atlantic being disco
uraged from seeking a close association by white people......



makala
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From: oguocha@skyfox
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: AFRICAN SOCCER: SOUTH AFRICAN LEAGUE
Date: 12 DEC 92 19:33:41 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca


Results do not include the last games that were played over the
weekend.

1. Iwisa Kaizer Chiefs          39-23-11-5-68-20-57
2. Hellenic                     41-23-11-7-82-38-57
3. Orlando Pirates              40-21-8-11-47-37-50
4. Wits University              41-19-11-11-50-29-49
5. Jomo Midas Cosmos            41-18-11-12-64-48-47
6. Sundowns                     41-16-16-9-61-46-47
7. Total Aces                   41-16-13-12-45-38-45
8. Lightbodys Santos            41-14-17-10-45-41-45
9. Moroka Swallows              41-16-11-14-5246-43
10. Cape Town Spurs             41-13-17-11-46-41-43
11. Ratanang                    41-14-15-12-40-39-43
12. Dynamos                     41-14-15-12-51-52-43
13. Fairways Stars              41-14-13-14-39-40-41
14. Bloemfontein Celtic         41-11-17-13-53-49-39
15. Amazulu                     39-12-14-13-44-46-38
16. Albany City                 41-15-7-19-44-52-37
17. Umtata Bucks                40-11-14-15-31-40-36
18. Sharp Highlands Park        40-12-11-17-34-35-35
19. Vaal Reefs Stars            41-12-10-19-32-52-34
20. Crusaders                   40-9-13-18-32-58-31
21. Manning Rangers             40-8-11-21-36-54-27
22. Dangerous Darkies           42-1-5-36-27-122-7

 SOURCE:: Motlatsi M. Mokoena (South Africa)
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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: IPS:ZIMBABWE: FILM CENSORSHIP, NO SEX PLEASE WE'RE ZIMBABWEAN
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:09:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.132257.15625@sei.cmu.edu> firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth) writes:
>In article <Bz6sxo.2tp@ddsw1.mcs.com> barnhart@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Mr. Aaron Barnhart) writes:
>
>>for example, argues bruce waters, critically-acclaimed films
>>by african-american directors such as 'boyz in the hood' and 'new
>>jack city' were rejected here this year.
>
>Good for Zimbabwe, say I.
>
>It is the values and attitudes portrayed in films such as these, and
>their mindless glorification by the sickos in the mass media, that
>have made the African-Americans one of the most oppressed black people
>on earth.  Any nation that wants to keep this filth well away from
>its cinemas, and the hearts and minds of its young people, is to be
>applauded.

Meliked Boyz in the 'hood. Very impressive language! Stay clear of movie
theaters if you don't want to spend your monies in the dark...

More seriously, what and how on earth can a movie like this one contribute 
towards the misfortunes of Afrikans???? You really amaze me, Mr. Firth.


Kauta.

An aside: Where have all my white South African friends gone to? It's lonely 
          as hell out here. Please drop me a note..
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From: bk577@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jane Bires Jiumaleh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Somalia-Int'l Medical Corps
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:37:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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The following is an update per Roz Grace of the
International Medical Corps, IMC, operating in
Somalia since October 1991.  Update as of  12-11-92
 
The IMC's staging area is in Nairobi, Kenya and that 
office has two people working out of it.  All of
the IMC's supplies go through Nairobi.
 
The IMC is funded in part by private grants that
the organization writes proposals for.  This year
the European Community has given IMC two grants.
(I don't know how large the 1st grant was)
The 2nd grant from EC was for $350,000.  Even with
these grants the IMC finds itself always in a pinch 
for money.
 
Air frieght into Somalia is $1.60 per pound with 
intense negotiating.  The IMC has never has anything
looted, never any planes shoot at.  All the planes
IMC uses are clearly marked with their logo and there
is no market for medical supplies so the IMC does not
face the same obsticles as the food agencies do.
 
The IMC operates in 3 cities:  Mogadishu, Baidoa and
Belet Huen.  All 3 of these centers ALWAYS find
themselves in need of:
     disposible golves
     masks that cover the mouth and nose
     drapes to separate the operating areas
     RAGS--they are ALWAYS in short supply of 
rags to wipe the up the blood.
     uniform--uniforms can usually be washed only 
three times before they disintergrate, once again
because of all the blood.
 
Roz said that the rags they use are things like
old towels we all have around our houses that are
still in good shape but not quit good enough to
put out on the towel bar.
 
Some one just sent IMC a hugh amount of new uniforms.
A uniform store was cleaning out its storage and
getting rid of all the styles and colors that didn't
sell for the year and donsted them to the IMC.  IMC
doesn't care what the colors are, they have their logo
printed on the back and send them off to Somalia.
 
Unfortunately the IMC can't use medical samples, even if
unopened.
 
For more information contact:
IMC
c/o Roz Grace
613 Guy Walker Way
Durham, NC   27703
phone:  919-598-5348
 
Roz has rented a storage facility in Durham for all 
donations.
 
I believe it's critical that medical facilities keep
operating.  I just heard recently on one of thhe news
programs that Somalia was requesting all medical 
personnel to return from neighboring countries that 
they may be taking refuge in to help get a medical
facility going in Mogadishu.
 
Anige Hougas
McFarland, WI
Hougasa@wisplan.uwex.wisc.edu
From: philip@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Philip Machanick)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: Dangerous Statements ....:
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:01:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: shannon.1992Dec15.090115.9210
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Wits University
X-Xxdate: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:07:19 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

In article <697@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Paul M Mweene, pmmst8+@pitt.edu writes:
>Except ofcourse that Blacks ARE not citizens of South Africa according to
>boer law.

Just as well the boers aren't being allowed to run the country any
more.
--
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Computer Science Dept, Univ of the Witwatersrand, 2050 Wits, South Africa
philip@concave.cs.wits.ac.za  phone: 27 (11) 716-3759  fax: 339-7965
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: SADF Purge
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:33:32 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

gavan@elc.mth.uct.ac.za (Gavan Tredoux) writes:

>Hot off the press. De Klerk announces a "purge" of the SADF
>in response to findings of an inquiry into SADF covert
>operations. Two major-generals dismissed and scores of other
>officers. Interesting stuff. This seems to be in keeping
>with expectations that the SADF remains locked in the
>"cold war" of the 80s, especially in its top leadership,
>who seem to have their own ideas about De Klerk's reforms.

This is buried in the back pages of most American newspapers
today, but it is surprising to see what appears to be the top
leaders of the South African Defence Forces being removed/forced
into retirement when SA seems to be at a crossroads.  I am sure the
SA Press is having a field day with this news, and that the ANC in all
of its arrogance will call for more and call for the State President to
step aside.

Removing the members of the command structure of the defence forces is
not going to change the attitudes or feelings of many it is ranks, and
will surely not change the present course or policy of the SADF until
the reform process is "complete" (whenever and whatever it will be.

>Even more interesting. Apparently criminal prosecutions
>may follow.

There is a constant cry here for special prosecutors for every single
incident or dirty deal which happens and is discovered in American
politics.  How or would something similar to this occur in the South
African Government?  Is there an internal affairs department?

>Not so hot off the press. Goldstone finds that the taxi wars in
>Alexandria are at root caused by commercial competition
>and lawlessness, gangsterism etc. This receives zero coverage
>in the local press, prone to air more sinister theories at the
>drop of a hat.

Now, here each gunshot victim, carjacking, murder, mugging and
mayhem is printed right up front before the important events in
the nation and the world are discussed.

The world is going to hell.


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From: todd@reed.edu (Todd Ellner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african
Subject: Re: New Topic
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:29:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec18.202945.17692
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Dec17.193453.19993@panix.com> mukasa@panix.com (Michael K Mukasa) writes:
[About African men who marry European women after studying abroad]
I say
|Is this bad for African society and family? I don't think it makes a whole
|lot of difference. These men represent a very small fraction of African men.
|They tend to work at jobs in the cities where people are more cosmopolitan
|anyway.

>When they go home they will probably join the higher echlons of the
>society (because of contacts, education, foreign training,etc.).  In this
>position they become roll models for the youth aspiring to become as
>succesful, well educated and "sofisticated" as these people are.

A good point, and the other ones you make later are well taken. These men
are influential out of proportion to their mere numbers. I think that the
root problem is, as you imply, their feelings of inferiority and disdain
for things and people African. It is not intermarriage per se, and I do not
think that treating the symptom (i.e. disapproving of intermarriage) will 
treat the underlying condition (internalized colonialism). I don't know how
to change this. There is a Nobel prize waiting for the person who does.
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From: mattb@adp.uucp (Matt Berigan 3-9742)
Subject: Want Mozambique email
Organization: U of Wisconsin ADP
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:57:14 GMT

Assistance requested:

Several Madison Wisconsin campus departments are looking for methods to 
communicate via electronic mail with Mozambique and other African nations
as well.  Can anybody please provide a good source or contact to help
us?

Please respond to:  wanjiru.pontes@mail.admin.wisc.edu

Dept. of Information Tech.
Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison

Thanks!!:

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From: kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta)
Subject: Re: IPS:SOUTHERN AFRICA: PRETORIA UNDER PRESSURE TO WIN IN ANGOLA/RELATE
Organization: Indiana University, Department of Mathematics.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:20:33 GMT


>Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
>print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.
>
>Title: SOUTHERN AFRICA: PRETORIA UNDER PRESSURE TO WIN IN ANGOLA/RELATE
>
>by godfrey karoro
>
>harare, dec 4 (ips) -- a military takeover by the rebel union for
>the total liberation of angola (unita) of the beleagured country
>would be a much needed political victory for the south african
>defence forces (sadf).
>
>to achieve this objective, sadf's fighter and transport planes
>have in the past two months been violating the airspace of
>namibia, botswana, zambia and zimbabwe in clandestine airlifts
>of military equipment to beef up unita's capability to take on
>the legitimate luanda government following september's
>elections.

This South African Monster has to be killed at all cost. We are having Somalia
in the making here. Here is a related story from the AP:

   Angolan Army Put On Alert           
     After Report Of Rebel Advance     
                 ---
    LUANDA, Angola - Government troops
were put on general alert Saturday and
ordered to respond with full military
force as rebel troops were reported
advancing in central Angola.
    U.S. Assistant Secretary of State
Jeffrey Davidow began a second day of
shuttle negotiations between government
and rebel leaders.
    The crisis has threatened the
African nation with renewed civil war.
    UNITA rebel forces are building up
around Malange, a provincial capital
210 miles east of Luanda, and Cuito,
180 miles to the south, Angolan state
radio reported.
    Military spokesman Gen. Higino
Carneiro said on national radio,
''Regional commanders have been ordered
to respond aggressively to any
offensive military maneuver by UNITA.''
    Government and rebel troops have
been at an armed impasse since
elections were held in September.
    Jonas Savimbi, leader of the
National Union for the Total Independ-
ence of Angola, or UNITA, accused the
government of rigging the vote, which
he lost. U.N. observers said the
elections were generally free and fair.
    Fighting broke out Oct. 31, killing
thousands nationwide. The government
accused UNITA of attempting a military
takeover, but UNITA claimed it was the
victim of government attacks.
    Although rebel forces were routed
in the capital, they rallied in the
provinces and occupy 60% of Angola.
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From: ronaldd@cbnewse.cb.att.com (ronald.h.davis)
Subject: Re: u.s. somalia
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:11:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.100403.12148@vms.eurokom.ie> ncostello@vms.eurokom.ie writes:
>ronaldd@cbnewse.cb.att.com (ronald.h.davis), AT&T  writes
>
>> ...
>> ... after the way our guys toasted those armored vehicles ...
>> ...
>
>I beg to object to that way of talking. [Of course you have the right
>to say that, I just mean I think you shouldn't.] Rightly or wrongly US
>troops killed quite a few people in those vehicles, it wasn't toast in the
>vehicles. I just think that way of talking is a way of dehumanising
>
of course, the people who got killed fired first and the good guys fired
back in defense so i have no particular sympathy for them.  on any account,
i don't think i will mistake the armed thugs for mother theresa, if you
catch my drift...

>war and trying not to realise what it involves.
>
i wouldn't call the mission in somalia "war" as such, but i am concerned
about the safety of our troops over there and want them all to come back
ok.

>This is what worries me about America (well OK it's called the UN these
>days) intervening in civil wars in the third world and taking over a
>country. Sounds like a good precedent for a recolonisation of the
>third world now there's no counterweight like the USSR which for all
>its faults at least sometimes gave training and arms to people like the
>ANC, Sandinistas, etc. (And no this doesn't mean I want people to starve
>
i fully agree that the ussr did better by nations in africa than did the
u.s.  i think a big part of this was that the u.s. was allies with the
colonial oppressors in western europe and didn't care enough about the
human rights of africans to make waves.  as a result, the ussr tended to
"get there first" and stake out "right" positions with the u.s. coming
along later and staking out the opposite position, regardless of the
rectitude of their position - heaven forsakes should the us and ussr
actually agree on something during the cold war.

as far as us recolonialization goes, i think with all the problems in this
country these days it would be a rather untenable position for a president
to argue that we are seeking out military occupation of new colonies.  the
focus of this country today is *economic* warfare and the third world
countries are just not in the game at present.  in order to get access to the
raw materials of african countries it's a lot easier to let multinational
companies take care of this - all they have to do is pay a few kickbacks to
local government authorities and you're got bloodless, economic colonization.

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