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From: aa349@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Herman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: .sfx files
Date: 22 Dec 1992 06:33:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In article, mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>Does anyone know how to create the .sfx files that, e.g. Novaterm 9.4 used?

The program that does the SFXing is LHA.  So to create one, the syntax could 
look something like:

LHA -s a:nova.sfx b:title c:file1 c:file2 d:file3

-s tells LHA you want an SFX and not an LHX.  In other words that you want it 
to self dissolve.

title is only used if you want a title screen before it dissolves.  (I put on 
GEnie an SFX Titlemaker that will make these screens.)

The rest of the line shouldn't need explanation.  
-------------
Howard Herman
INET:  72560.3467@CompuServe.COM

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From: ckunz@src4src.linet.org (Charles Kunz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: milton
Keywords: milton
Date: 2 Jan 93 04:17:24 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

In article <1i00imINNela@shelley.u.washington.edu> ericl@carson.u.washington.edu (Eric Lundquist) writes:
>In article <6638@pdxgate.UUCP> crimson@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Crimson Knight) writes:
>>
>>     It seems the "download" directory is gone from milton. Does anybody know
>>about this? Any news is appreciated! Thanks!
>>                 
>>                                          crimson@rigel.cs.pdx.edu
>
>Well, I do know that Milton is being phased out as fast as they can move
>people to the new machine, and that the disks/CPU boards are being pulled
>for the new machine at a good clip too.  Unfortunately, the new machine
>does not have anon ftp.
>
>I don't know what will become of Milton's ftp archive.  Probably doomed.
>
>Eric Lundquist
>University Of Washington, Seattle, WA, USA

Hmmm... does anyone have a current list of ftp sites and their respective
directories, then?  I've been using the ftpmail server on milton... would
explain why it keeps telling me "no such directory"

Chuck
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From: andrew@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Low)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: BBS's
Organization: Zone4
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 00:34:22 GMT

In article <28587@optima.cs.arizona.edu> 
mcbride@cs.arizona.edu (Chris M. McBride) writes:
>The first demo to use FLI 

By this you mean the _very_ first?  Or do you mean the first american demo
to have one?  Or better still the first NTSC demo?

+/+\+/+\+/+chew carefully/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+
Roo [andrew@zone4.ocunix.on.ca] m a c h i n e l o v e h a t e f e a r v o i d .
 "You need yourself a gimmick... mail a body part with it, or something" - CR
From: po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Flexible Line Interlace
Date: 23 Dec 1992 15:32:59 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.tut.fi

In article <28713@optima.cs.arizona.edu> mcbride@cs.arizona.edu (Chris M. McBride) writes:
>   In my last post I spoke of FLI (Flexible Line Interlace). This is

Actually it is Flexible Line Interpretation. You can read 'all' about
FLI in the C=Hacking Issue 4.. And more..

>possible to get "3" colors ber 1x4 "square" instead of 8x4. Allowing 
>a total off 16 different colors to exist in the 8x4 sqaure.

You can have seperate background color for each scan line, one individual
color in each character position (4x8 pixels) and two independent colors
in each 4x1 pixels.

So, it would be possible to have 25 colors in one 8x4 square, but
because 64 only have 16, it is only theory.. :-)
(8 lines*2 colors+color in color mem+8 background colors)

>This method allows for some great and colorful pictures, But it takes 
>alot of (computer) time and memory to display them.

Alot = all. Generally, to display 200 lines of FLI picture takes 200*63
cycles (in PAL). And one picture (160x200) takes 17kB..

>Chris

-Pasi

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From: mcbride@cs.arizona.edu (Chris M. McBride)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: BBS's
Summary: fifrst FLD
Date: 27 Dec 92 01:53:57 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <92122324429@zone4.ocunix.on.ca> andrew@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Low) writes:
>In article <28587@optima.cs.arizona.edu> 
>mcbride@cs.arizona.edu (Chris M. McBride) writes:
>>The first demo to use FLI 
>
>By this you mean the _very_ first?  Or do you mean the first american demo
>to have one?  Or better still the first NTSC demo?
>

>Roo [andrew@zone4.ocunix.on.ca] m a c h i n e l o v e h a t e f e a r v o i d .

Well when I said first I meant FIRST demo. As in  :in the whole WORLD"
Who else besides America has NTSC? (America usually refers to the
whole Northern Continent of America. If anyone in the Southern
continent wrote demos, I would also include them. The only other
people I know who use NTSC is Japan, I have't yet seen a Japanese
demo.
 
BUT I lied. Think Twice is the first demo to use FLD a kind of
predecessor to FLI. The same technique is used in both methods.

I'm not sure which demo was the first to actually use FLI.

Chris
From: sjchmura@kimbark.uchicago.edu (steven joseph chmura)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Will Geos128 2.0 be updated?
Date: 2 Jan 93 06:54:21 GMT
Reply-To: sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

Will the Geos software ever be improved?  Is Berkley still developing or have they
struck it rich on the PC?

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________Steven Chmura				University of Chicago Medical School(M1)
  "Given enough time, the impossible becomes probable, and the probable
	inevitable.."  -George Wald, "On the Origins of Life"
From: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: c64 emulator
Date: 21 Dec 1992 15:15:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac803@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael W. Kelley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>
>Seeing as the C-64 was just a game machine (essentially) isn't this
>emulator sort of a WASTE??  The c-64 has quite good games, at that.  In
>fact, some things were better than IBM versions...like Strip Poker  :)   !
>The C-64 is essentially 16-color lo-res EGA (as is my example).  Why even
>bother?  Somebody mentioned an Amiga emulator for the IBM before?  I
>can just imagine what this is like.......BLAH!!!
>-Doc
That's like me saying the AMIGA is ONLY a video and animation machine.
BOTH are COMUTERS, and do what they do quite well.  Each user has their own
needs and price range, and each COMPUTER fills those needs and price
availability.  A C64 can do everything an MS-DOS mahine can, just
in more step, and more disk accesses.  Coleco and Nintendo are game
machines, C64 is a COMPUTER!
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From: soulcatc@terapin.com (Paul Palinkas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Binaries for the 64 - How do I use 'em?
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:59:31 PST
Organization: BBS

How do I use the binaries I've discovered on the Net? Buffer, save, and load
them? Or is it more complicated?
 
thanks in advance for your help?
 
Soulcatcher... - soulcatc@terapin.com - soulcatc@cyberden.sf.ca.us
From: tratclif@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tracy Ratcliff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: SX-64 chip replacement
Keywords: 99-44/100% compatible
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:50:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <1992Dec28.181415.24282@Princeton.EDU> hswoolve@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Helen S. Woolverton) writes:
>I got a RamLink recently, and have run into a _lee-tle_ problem with
>the proverbial SX-64-is-not-quite-a-C-64 incompatability.  Way back when
>the machine was half its current age, a friend told me of reading about
>a one-chip replacement that would turn my SX-64 into a "real C-64".  I
>paid little attention at the time, since what I used worked without
>trouble.
>

The only thing I can think of that fits this description is the kernal ROM.
The SX-64 kernal had the routines of the 64 ROM version of the time but in
a different order (the tape routines were all brought together in one chunk).

Since you're trying to use a RamLink, I would contact CMD.  They'll probably
recommend you buy a JiffyDOS chip, which replaces the kernal.  


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From: Michael.Smith@f157.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Novaterm 9.4 status line does not disappear!
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 10:06:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/157 - Compu-Link II, Orlando FL

 JW> It is supposed to dissapear, as you are using 2400 
 JW> baud. Nick says that you cant have status line @ 2400 
 JW> baud.
I am at 2400 baud.  I have status line.  Thanks for making me special, Nick!



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: CS-DOS etc...
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 26 Dec 92 14:53:30 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Dec23.220949.8534@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, tratclif@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tracy Ratcliff) writes:
> ...you have to tell LHA what part of the 1750 is free to be used for its
> purposes.
> 
> I tried poking 0 to $1bcf and it caused the 'REU in use' error message.  Since
> you're trying to make .sfx files you only need to reserve one bank.  In my 
> setup I use 1750 (well, actually 1700) bank 0 as the csdos ramdisk and bank 1
> for LHA space, like this:
> 
>           poke 7119, 1*16+2
> 
> That help?

HURRAHHHH!!! Yes It does!!  Thank you very much.... 
I've now got the sfx LHARChiver working.

One or two strange things still happen though... any suggestions?

1) After booting I have to POKE 7119,18 in direct mode. The autoexec file
now has a line that says "POKE7119,1*16+2" but doesn't seem to do it.

2) I have 3 drives; 8, 9, and 10. CS-DOS makes drive 8=A, 9=C and 10=
nothing. Drives A and C work fine, but typing C: causes a 74, drive not
ready error from drive A.

3) After a file self-extracts, trying to read a directory (on the 128)
results in a 'FORMULA TOO COMPLEX' error.

But - it works, and I can now condense/combine the many files on our clubs
BBS making them use less memory in RAMLink and faster to download!!

Many thanks again, and all the best for 1993.

Cheers - Kirk
From: Michelle.Roselle@f3.n8120.z86.toadnet.org (Michelle Roselle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: uuencoded binary: gra
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:47:00 cdt
Organization: FidoNet node 86:8120/3 - Sometimes BBS, Portage IN

-> >Per request of quite a number of people, here is my (unfinished)
-> version of >the Graphics Transformer ][. It is UUENCODED. The
-> Graphics Transformer II is a >program that can convert most of the
-> known C64 graphical formats between >eachother. It can also display
-> PrintShop and PrintMaster pictures, without the >need to load them
-> each separately (this is also possible, but it can also >slideshow.)
-> Enjoy! Remember: this is a beta-version, and I don't have the time
-> >to keep working on it...
->
-> Has anybody actually been able to start this program?
-> When I tried to do so it seemed it didn't decompress correctly and
-> just crashed.
             I tried with seq files saved in petscii & ascii and used
 uuxfer in 64 mode and...   A dark screen lockup.... not a blank blue, but a dark blue/black.. which the 128 reset switch I got a brief flash of some letters on the screen... hidden by a poke? to the background color?


--- TosScan 1.00
 * Origin: The Sometimes BBS (219-763-2031) (86:8120/3)
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From: mhm104@access.digex.com (Mitch Markowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Screen scrool on Nova 9.4
Date: 24 Dec 1992 14:00:45 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com
Keywords: Novaterm

Hello All,

     I recently downloaded Nova 9.4 and started trying it out.  Everything seemed to work fine, until I tried using it on INternet.  The problem is thet the screen does not scrool at the bottom,  therefore when the text reaches the bottom, it keeps overwriting itself.  

     Anyone else have this problem?

I have the program set up with 80 col and vt100.


Mitch Markowitz
From: d90jno@efd.lth.se (Johan Nordfaelt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1541 connected to an IBM
Date: 1 Jan 93 12:26:51 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden

In article <92363.130045ANDERSON@UCF1VM.BITNET> Eric C. Anderson <ANDERSON@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>I seem to have misplaced my copy of the documentation for 1541.EXE
>including info on making the cable. Could some kind soul send me
>a fresh copy?
>
>Eric

Me too !!!

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From: crimson@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Crimson Knight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: milton
Summary: milton ftp server: gone forever?
Keywords: milton
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:22:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6638


     It seems the "download" directory is gone from milton. Does anybody know
about this? Any news is appreciated! Thanks!
                 
                                          crimson@rigel.cs.pdx.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 3 Unanswered Questions
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:46:02 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Dec23.053622.23589@iitmax.iit.edu>, thssapk@iitmax.iit.edu (([<{\_/}>])) writes:

> 2)   Can someone FTP novaterm9_4-1.sfx and novaterm9_4-4.sfx up to 
>      cco.caltech.edu

I managed it! It's there now! 

Cheers - Kirk
From: hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: need info on RS232 adapter for non-cbm modem
Date: 3 Jan 93 03:09:26
Organization: Computing and Telecommunications Services, UCSC
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu
In-reply-to: liuzzo@cbnewse.cb.att.com's message of 1 Jan 93 18:03:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.180301.25324@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, liuzzo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.g.liuzzo) writes:
) I understand that a non-cbm modem can be used with a C64 or C128
) if one has an RS232 interface adapter.  What is this exactly?
) If I had the connectors, could I fabricate such a thing myself?
) If so, could someone supply me with a wiring diagram?

If you're electronically inclined you can make it yourself.  You'll
need a 1488 and 1489 chip to convert the power, and a pinout of the
user port (where a Commodore-compatible modem plugs in).  The rest is
basically just wiring.  You might have to convert the 9VAC signal to
9VDC, but I believe that signal is present on that port, so it
shouldn't be hard if you know what you're doing.

I don't have a pinout; I once did, but threw it away and bought a used
adapter (via this newsgroup, actually).  You can buy them for almost
as cheap as the parts, and since it's kind of difficult to find a
connector that'll plug into the user port (non-standard size), you
might be better off going that route.  I think CMD probably sells an
adapter/cable, or flip through an old RUN or Gazette for ads.
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From: po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Flexible Line Interpretation
Date: 26 Dec 92 11:08:33 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.tut.fi

In article <1992Dec24.071047.2553@cs.mun.ca> georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca (George Noel) writes:
> How does one view FLI format images and where can I get some examples of
> them?

Use a FLI viewer :-)

Check cwaves.stfx.ca, pub/../C64Gfx (Unpacked version of the C64Gfx1.lha)
and you should find FLIviewer_PAL.64. There also is some example pictures.
Btw, with the C64Gfx package you can convert ppm-format pictures to FLI and
koala format.. For example I have drawn graphics in my Amiga and then
converted them to koala..

(ppm is an intermediate format used by most conversion programs.)

> -=*George*=-

-Pasi


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From: ghielmet@.epfl.ch (Leopoldo Ghielmetti, EPFL INFO 95)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! harddisx?
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:30:42 GMT
Reply-To: ghielmet@.epfl.ch
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article 5M5@cs.vu.nl, ekoperen@cs.vu.nl (Koperen van EB) writes:
| That caught yer attention, eh?
|
| ( X-cuse me 4 my spelling, i am not from around here )
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
	same for me

| 
| There was some disussion on how to use a hard disk on a c64.
| 
| Has anybody thought abaut the following way to do it:
| 
| a: make some files on the harddisk off your pc. those will
|    be " disks " .
| b: get the pc to emulate a 1541, and use those files.
| c: get the c64 to use the pc as a drive.

The idea is good. After writing X1541, I ave begin to write a program that can reply
to C64 correctly. A simple modification to X1541 will not work, the problem is the
control of the ATN signal and timing correctly the signals.
For X1541, the 1541 wait IBM, in the new program IBM must wait C64 :-)

| Becouse some while ago there was some posting on how to 
| connect a 1541 to a pc, it simply must be possible to 
| connect the c64 to a pc as well ( using the same connector )

yes

| The only problem is the pc programm that will use this 
| connector in the right way.
| ( does anyone have the sourcecode off the neat program that 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      yes :-)

| came with the connector posting?  or better yet, will the one 
| who wrote it help us out!? ) 

I use the IEEE protocol I ave hacked. Sorry, I don't know any book about this protocol.

| In this way you don't have to build a complex interface, or
| otherwise do weird things, and it is a flexible dessign,
| becouse you use the pc as a device.
| 
| Seems easier than building an interface to the harddisk.
| 
| 
| Hmm, you could use the pc-printer and even use the pc as a
| printer buffer!   ( i kind of like that )

	good idea !


ciao, Leopoldo.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: uph001@ux2 (BAACKE)
Subject: Re: Novaterm 9.4 status line does not disappear!
Reply-To: uet019@zx1.hrz.uni-dortmund.de
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:40:53 GMT

Michael Smith (Michael.Smith@f157.n363.z1.fidonet.org) wrote:
:  JW> It is supposed to dissapear, as you are using 2400 
:  JW> baud. Nick says that you cant have status line @ 2400 
:  JW> baud.
: I am at 2400 baud.  I have status line.  Thanks for making me special, Nick!
: 
I'm also at 2400 baud. I also have status line. ergo: I also have the
"limited Edition of NT 9.4" :)
BTW did anyone else notice that the previous versions of NT didn't
work properly with 7E1. Or is it a bug in my system?


--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP (arthur moore)
Subject: Re: archiver compatibility?
Reply-To: bbs-artmoore@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:42:46 GMT
Keywords: arc archive unix compression

cdminter@icaen.uiowa.edu (Corey D Minter) writes:

> I am sick of downloading uncompressed files that are non c64 originated.
> I mean occasionally I find a text file on the net and want to download it,
> but I don't have a way to compress it in the unix system and then decompress
> it at my c64 end.  Are there any compatible programs, I have seen arc and
> zip will these work?

CSX01 will de-arc MS-DOS .ARChives.  At present there is no unzip utility 
(dont anyone start hollering "Zipcode"!!).  I have no FTP, so dont ask me 
where it is.

( ( Art Moore  | Usenet bbs-artmoore@jwt.uucp
 ) )           |  -or-  bbs-artmoore@jwt.oau.org
( (            | Fidonet CBM  -  Arthur Moore
 ) )__Ask me about the C64 qwk offline reader!__
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: spacek@cactus.org (Mark S. Spacek)
Subject: Re: 3 Unanswered Questions
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:34:29 GMT

In article <1hads5INNrng@hp-col.col.hp.com> warren@col.hp.com (Warren Tustin) writes:
>The nova94-1.sfx that is there now is 47617 bytes. 
>The one I downloaded (nova9_4-1.sfx) on 11/30 is 47462 bytes. 
 
 The original I nova94-1.sfx I made is exactly 47462 bytes long.  The 47617
byte file might work fine, if the extra 155 bytes is just padding of some
sort, if the first 47462 bytes are the same as the original.  I don't know if
its good or not and don't have FTP access to get it and test it.  If it were
47488, I'd say it was Xmodem padding.  128 bytes up from that is 47616, which
is almost the same thing, so it might have gotten Xmodem padded twice?  Dunno.
Anyway, 47462 is exactly right though.  Mark....