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From: Thomas_Dicorcia.ISO-SV@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Work & Study in Japan
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:40:10 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

Dan,
A book on the subject of working in Japan was recently published by the
American Society of Mechanical Engineers (head office in New York City).  It is
a compilation of pieces by several engineers who have worked, or are working in
Japan.  Plus, a couple of articles provide some statistical information.
I would guess that another useful source for your paper would be articles in
the weekly Nikkei Economic Times, published in English.  They sell it at
Kinokuniya bookstores.  But what you need is a library that keeps back issues,
and an index.  Can`t help you there.
A fascinating topic would be the hundreds of Iranian men in their 20s and 30s
who hang out in Ueno Park.  I have heard that flights between Teheran and Tokyo
are booked with Iranians coming to Japan for illegal work.  I see potentials
problems brewing in this situation, where there is a severe language and
culture gap, inadequate pay for decent living accomodations, and no resources
to help avoid problems.  I`m not saying that the Japanese should be responsible
for assimilating these illegal workers, but there is a potential problem if
frustration leads to violence.
I asked a friend of mine who works for a Japanese utility about the few
homeless Japanese that I saw in Tokyo.  He said that his company prefers
illegal foreign workers to Japanese for day labor on construction jobs, because
the government requires that Japanese day laborers get a wage sufficient to pay
for a place for them to live.  There is, of course, no such requirement for
illegal immigrants.  In my friend`s opinion, this has increased the ranks of
homeless among Japanese at the margin.  I imagine it also encourages more
illegal immigration.  The fact that a well known utility is able to engage in
this practice on a regular basis tells me that the Japanese government is
closing one eye to the problem.
Tom
From: isao@CS.UIUC.EDU (Isao Watanabe)
Subject: Re: ankeeto
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:42:18 GMT

>
>1. yokohama-kouzyou no seisanryou ga ninenkan hueta.
>1.1. kono bun o "seisanryou ga ninenkan huetuzuketa" to iu imi ni toremasuka?
>     sizen( ) husizen(X)
>     comments:
        "Ninenkan" should be followed by the words representing continuous
       action.  I don't think "hueta" in continuous.
        Or, "hueta" is usually used with the words represent the amount of
       change.  ex. "nokosareta jikan ga ni-nen fueta"
>
>1.2. kono bun o "seisanryou ga ninenkan moto no seisanryou o uwamawatte ita" to
>     iu imi ni toremasuka?
>     sizen( )   husizen(X)
>     comments:
        more "husizen" than 1.1.
        Both 1.1 and 1.2 can be "sizen" in some situation, but are misleading.
      I usually avoid using this type of statement.
>
>2. yokohama-kouzyou no seisanryou ga huete iru.
>2.1. kono bun o "seisanryou ga zouka-situzuketeiru" to iu imi ni tukaemasuka?
>     sizen(X)   husizen( )
>     comments:
        straightforward
>
>2.2. kono bun o "moto no seisanryou o uwamawaru (ittei no) seisanryou ga
>     tamotarete iru" to iu imi ni toremasuka?
>     sizen( )   husizen(X)
>     comments:
          "moto no seisanryou o uwamawatteiru" is OK.
          "(ittei no) seisanryou ga tamotarete iru" never comes into my mind.
>
>3. huzigawa no mizukasa ga 3-zikande hueta.
>   sizen(?) husizen( )
>   question: nani-ga 3-zikan kakattaka, omoiataru bamen o kaite kudasai.
      After rained in the upper basin of hujigawa, ....
>   comments:
>
>arigatou gozaimasita. kaitou wa kono e-mail goto
>           loebner@ze8.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
>ni oyose kudasai.
From: wtc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Wan-teh Chang)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: gozaimasu or gozaimasita
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:27:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

Hi.  Is there any difference in meaning between "arigatoo gozaimasu"
and "arigatoo gozaimasita"?  Are they interchangeable?

Thanks,
Wan-teh

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Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: verbs
From: luke@koala.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:33:50
Keywords: adversity passive, animate agency

In article <1992Apr1.183419.29700@news.Hawaii.Edu> mathias@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gerald B. Mathias) writes:
>In article <1992Mar30.141010.614@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> thomson@hub.toronto.edu (Brian Thomson) writes:
>>With regard to my quoted
>>
>>>        Kino^ kuruma ha *kowareraremashita.
>>>        Yesterday my car broke down on me.
>>
>>Why is it that the misfortune passive of this verb "don't exist no way no
>>how"?  What makes it so different from other intrasitive verbs that affect
>>people, and *do* have misfortune passive forms?
>
>A tough question that I tried to think of the answer to when I rejected
>*kowarerareta, but "it sounds awful" was the best I could have done.  I sus-
>pect David may have hit the nail a glancing blow, so to speak, with his
>claim that the agent of the passive must be animate (there is a TENDENCY
>for this to be true of passives in general in Japanese).
>
>>I am also confused by the volitional vs. non-volitional business.
>>Somewhere, I remember quite clearly having encountered the expression
>>"Ame ni furareta", meaning "(I) got rained on".  Is this my
>>overactive imagination?
>
>No, you've encountered it, and it's quite valid, a seemingly clear excep-
>tion to the "animate-only" hypothesis.  But I'm having trouble coming up
>with more examples.

I checked a couple of grammar books, but none of them made a clear
statement about whether or not the agent has to be volitional.
However, with only one exception, every example sentence in every
book _did_ have a volitional agent.  The one exception was, of course,
"ame ni furareta."

Is this the sole exception?  I don't know.

--
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|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           Nakanu nara, nakasete miseyoo hototogisu   |
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From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Japan-USA
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:58:21 GMT
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <3361@pacificrand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
>In article <9204031616.AA21525@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu writes:
>>. . . . . I read an article a few
>>months ago claiming the most significant reason why America is in such a
>>depression is because it sold much of its resources to Japan with the land
>>and with fewer resources, income greatly falls.
>
>Untrue!  Especially when you consider that Japan isn't even the largest
>foreign investor in the US!  (Try Great Britain or Canada, the Netherlands
>not being far behind.)

I agree that this is not the reason for our recession. But the
knee-jerk response that Britain is the largest foreign investor in the
US ceased to be true in 1990 when Japan surpassed them with several
mega-deals. It became a common refrain when Japanese pointed out in
1989 that they were the #2 or #3 foreign investor, and then everyone
picked up on this defense and has repeated it ever since. Show me the
numbers for 1991 showing Britain as #1 and then I'll believe it.

>Japanese investors have gotten Americans upset because (choose 1 or more):
>	1) They tend to buy highly-visible "trophy" properties;
>	2) There was a large upswing in Japanese investment late in
>	   the 1980's (largely reversed in the early 1990's);
>	3) Japanese aren't white, don't speak English (much), and have
>	   an "exotic" national culture.

These factors are all valid but gloss over some other things. Japanese
are definitely "take-no-prisoners" businessmen. I don't fault them for
it but if you're going to play hard ball (very hard in their case)
don't complain about the reputation it gets you.

>Unfortunately, (3) is all too often the reason why (1) and (2) get
>noticed.

Even admitting that they play hard ball and sometimes hurt feelings
factor (3) may be overiding.

>		-Ed Hall
>		edhall@rand.org

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
From: rwk@crl.dec.com (Bob Kerns)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: jiten FAQ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:38:55 GMT
	<1992Apr10.173319.5113@cs.yale.edu> <molenda.702929026@msi.umn.edu>
Organization: Cambridge Research Lab, Digital Equipment Corp.

In article <molenda.702929026@msi.umn.edu> molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:

   From: molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
   Date: 10 Apr 92 18:03:46 GMT

   I have to agree with Scott 100% on this one.  I use many different
   dictionaries; the one saving grace is that they all more or less have
   the same lookup method.  If the Kanji Jukugo Ribaasu Jiten 
   ($@4A;z=O8l%j%P!<%9<-E5(J) was the only dictionary I used, this wouldn't
   be a big deal... I use it primarily as "back-up" when I cant find
   a word in another dictionary (it IS very comprehensive; I'll give it
   that).  Every time I just have to pray that the radical of the character
   hasn't been "optimized out" in their system.

Do you use the little table in the back that lists the optimizations
they made?  If not, you'll find it saves you some time.  As does
marking the radicals on the outside edge, which is something you
should do to any dictionary you use frequently.

The table of kanji at the front of each radical means I can generally
make two stabs at finding the right radical in the time it takes me to
make one try with most jiten.  I really hope that others adopt this
idea.

   Furthermore, they have managed to find simply the ugliest font around.
   Ugh.  Makes my eyes hurt.  This is a big deal to me.  They must have
   spent incredible amounts of effort compiling this thing; why couldn't
   they have expended a litle more and bought a nice font?  I refuse to
   believe they actually used this font by choice.

If you notice, it's a bitmap font of only moderate resolution.
It was computer typeset; I suspect this was the best font they
had.  Because I agree with you; they couldn't have used it by
choice.

   If they had used a better font and had not tried to improve on the
   classical radicals, it would probably be my main character dictionary.

I agree, both of these things would be improvements.

But I think the *right* thing for them to do would have been to
invent their new scheme, as an alternative, and then insert
cross-references to the right place, whenever their scheme produces
the wrong one.  This is what Nelson does, and it is simple, and
works well.
From: stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: info. requ. on Japanese textbook
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:55:17 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05: 55:47 TZONE

> From:	EAN%"S=NIHONGO;O=MITVMA;P=BITNET;A=DBP;C=DE" "Japanese Language Discuss
ion List" 11-APR-1992 05:45:11.58
> To:	EAN%"S=stueber;OU=VAX;O=MPIZ-KOELN;P=MPG;A=dbp;C=de" "Kurt Stueber"
> CC:
> Subj:	info. requ. on Japanese textbook
>
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>
> ==================
> This is a short survey.
> I am going to write a paper to evaluate the Japanese textbooks
>
> Xiao-jie Yang
> Assit. prof. of Japanese
> The Univ. of Calgary
>
>
> ****A SHORT SURVEY****
>
> The name of your
> institution:
   I took a class of Japanese at Hamburg University
   some long time ago.
>
> Class size and hours(per-week)
> Level I:
  about 30 participants
  4 weeks at 10 hours daily
> Level II:
  about 30 participants
  4 weeks at 10 hours daily
> Level III:
>
>
> The title and publisher of the textbook:
> (If you think the textbook is a little rare, please inclose
> details.)
> For level I:
for all levels:

   Alphonso: Japanese Language Patterns
   published by
   Department of Japanese, The Australian National University
   Canberra Australia and
   L.L. Center of Applied Linguistics, Sophia University/Jochi Daigaku
   Toukyou, Japan

   This textbook series includes two volumes of exercises
   one volume of Kanji-descriptions (to cut apart and create
   a deck of training cards
   Three volumes that introduce you to  the writing systems.
   I believe there are also tape recordings available for the
   Exercises in Vol 1 and 2.
>
>
> Any comments on those textbooks:

Well, this set of textbooks in not quite cheap, but for anyone really
interested to get a fluent reading and writing ability they are *optimal*.
The grammatical descriptions are very fine grained (detailed) and
with many exercises (also suitable for assisted audio lerning).

This definitely is the best Japanese textbook you may get.

kurt
From: ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Japanese Maritime (Salvage?) Laws
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:53:38 GMT
Organization: UNC Charlotte

I realize that this topic is not exactly in keeping with the stated theme of
this news group, but I thought that maybe someone out there might know the
answer to my question, or at least, who to ask.  I'm writing a short story
in which some gold ingots are found in the shallows off the coast of Japan,
and I need to know 1) how long would the Japanese government (or whoever)
keep such a find before allowing the finder to take possession, and 2) how
much in taxes (or whatever) would the finder have to pay?  I have asked
several people in the legal profession, and none of them know the answer.
They suggested someone else to ask, but again, a dead end.  I checked the
library for reference works on related topics, but no luck.  Does anyone
know to whom I might speak to find the answers, or, better yet, does
anyone actually *know* the answers?
Thanks in advance for any assistance possible.
 
Jean
From: tvp@GIBDO.ENGR.WASHINGTON.EDU
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: FLEFO
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:47:05 GMT
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet

In article <9204170317.AA02850@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>How can I join or subscribe to FLEFO (Foreign Language Education Forum)?
>What is it?
>
>                --David Bedell, U. of Alabama (dbedell3@ua1vm.ua.edu)

Sorry to tell you, but you'll have to joing CompuServe for that; it's
their forum.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: dcrevier@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Crevier)
Subject: Re: Asahi-ya
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 03:07:58 GMT

In article <9204090036.AA21076@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu writes:
>Could someone let me know the phone number of any Asahi-ya branch in the U.S.,
>or some other bookstores dealing Japanese books (I already know the phone
>numbers of Kinokyni-ya).
>
>Y. Sasaki
>SDSU

The one in Los Angeles (Little Tokyo) is (213)626-5650.  The Fax number is
(213)626-1746.

Dan
From: jwallace@cs.umb.edu (John M. Wallace)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Info on DOS/WINDOWS Japan language tools
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:32:46 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

Hello,

I would like to find a program(s) that do Japanese language instruction
on DOS/Windows machines. 

Ideally the program would have set lessons and then testing. A audio
interface (speaks Japanese) would be great, don't know if this has
been done.

Is there a FAQ for this group that has this info? If not I will summarize
findings.

Please E-mail responses

Thanks
John Wallace
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: hinck@is.morgan.com (Jon Hinckley)
Subject: Re: Japanese OS
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
	<9204132003.AA10203@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>
	<1992Apr15.154823.29064@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:31:22 GMT


In nibaiwado if you don't want to us the japanese menus, hold down the
option key when you bring it up and all your menus will be in english.
I find it very helpfull since I'm a native english speaker. Again it
was design by an american, but then a lot of the better Japanese word
processors for the mac have been.

--
Jon Hinckley			Phone:	813 3286-9326
Morgan Stanley Japan Ltd.	Fax:	813 3286-9040
Information Services
Tokyo Japan			Email:  hinck@is.morgan.com
From: miyazaki@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Takeshi Miyazaki)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: TrueType kanji fonts
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:30:00 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU


I heard that Kanji TrueType was originally scheduled in February. But
it delayed, and is not yet shipping. Probably someone in Japan will
correct me.

-- 
Takeshi Miyazaki (miyazaki@ee.princeton.edu)
From: rwk@crl.dec.com (Bob Kerns)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: jiten to iu koto
Date: 10 Apr 92 02:25:06 GMT
Distribution: sci
Organization: Cambridge Research Lab, Digital Equipment Corp.

[Gack!  Immediately after posting, I realized that I never included
the title or full author's names!  It's Mark Spahn and Wolfgang
Hadamitzky, "Japanese Character Dictionary with Compund Lookup via Any
Kanji".  Other than the new publisher's name, and the improved binding,
the new one looks just the same].

I was in Schoenhoff's (Harvard Square, Cambridge) today, looking
at books, when I happened to notice a copy of Spahn & Hadamitzky.

What caught my eye is that it appears to have a new publisher!

It looks just the same, but I did note one important difference:
The quality of the binding has been greatly improved.  Nichigai
Associate's version was perfect-bound, that is, cut pages with
the edges set in glue.  Cheng & Tsui Company's version is bound
in signatures (that's the groups of folded-over & sewn sheets),
set in glue.  I couldn't determine whether the groups of signatures
were themselves sewn together, but probably they are.  Even if they're
not, gluing signatures together is a lot more reliable than individual
pages, because there's significantly more glue area between signatures.

This is important; just a couple of weeks ago, I gave up on trying
to cobble my S&H back together with tape and glue, and went to the
trouble of drilling holes, sewing & gluing it together, and adding
a hard cover, so now I have a hardcover copy of Spahn & Hadamitzky.

I have *thousands* of little markings in it I didn't want to lose,
not to mention variuous aids & modifications to allow faster lookup.
I *really* didn't want to discard mine and buy a new one.

Since I've recommended and cited this dictionary to a number
of people, let me update my reference info:

It is now Cheng & Tsui Company, ISBN-0-88727-170-7.

Also, the price was less than I remember paying, but I got it right
after it came out, so my memory may be poor.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: nebel@wam.umd.edu (Chris D. Nebel)
Subject: Re: TrueType kanji fonts
Reply-To: nebel@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:22:24 GMT

In article <31598@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jlkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Justin Kim) writes:
> 
> 	Does anyone know anything about the availability of TrueType
> kanji fonts for the Mac?  I have heared rumors here and there (mainly on
> the net and in MacWeek) but nothing definite.

The new version of SweetJAM by A&A handles TrueType kanji.  I don't know for
certain that they're shipping, but they're placing ads for it.

Chris Nebel
nebel@wam.umd.edu
From: mdavis@alex (Matthew Davis)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: info. requ. on Japanese textbook
Summary: Japanese for Today
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:29:33 GMT
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA (no afilliation)

In article <9204121716.AA18358@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu writes:
>>****A SHORT SURVEY****
>>
>>The name of your
>>institution: University of Waterloo, Canada
>>
>>
>>Class size and hours(per-week)
>>Level I: 3
>>Level II:3
>>Level III:3
>>
>>
>>The title and publisher of the textbook:
>>(If you think the textbook is a little rare, please inclose
>>details.)
>>For level I: Japanese for today
>>For level II: same
>>For level III: same
>>
>>
>>Any commonts on those textbooks:
>
>Too much romajis
I was going to send this info for my book, but I see the info already got sent.
The only difference is to put "Trinity University, San Antonio" as the   
institution...

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***************************
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***************************   Trinity wants my money, not my opinions.
From: okushi@aegis.or.jp (Keiko Okushi)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese on a Macintosh
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:47:56 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

dcrevier@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Crevier) writes:

> Hi, I recently got an Mac II, and want to get some software to do some
> Japanese word processing and kanji learning type stuff.  I have Kanji Talk.
> I will soon be getting a laser printer, and I am interested in printing good
> quality stuff.  I heard that Kanji Talk only prints at 72 dpi.  Has anyone
> ported jenscript to the Mac?  Also, has someone written an interface to use
> edict?  Are there any ftp sites with Macintosh japanese software?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dan

There are Japanese word processing such as EG Word, 
MacWrite II, MacWrite, etc.  If you need price list
of softwares for Mac sold in Japan, I may help you.
And as for the printing stuff, TrueType Font will
solve your problem.

---
Keiko Okushi  
JUNET: okushi@aegis.or.jp (within Japan)
BITNET: okushi%aegis.or.jp@jpnkyoto.bitnet (international)
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan
From: LOEBNER@ZE8.RZ.UNI-DUESSELDORF.DE
Subject: ankeeto
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15: 43:59 CET
Reply-To: NIHONGO@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:46:41 GMT

nihongo no imiron ni tuiteno project de ika no bun no tekisetusa ga mondai ni
narimasita. ankeeto ni gokyouryoku kudasai. kaitousya wa nihongo no native
speaker ni kagirasete itadakimasu.

Namae:
syussinti:
nenreisou:

1. yokohama-kouzyou no seisanryou ga ninenkan hueta.
1.1. kono bun o "seisanryou ga ninenkan huetuzuketa" to iu imi ni toremasuka?
     sizen( ) husizen( )
     comments:

1.2. kono bun o "seisanryou ga ninenkan moto no seisanryou o uwamawatte ita" to
     iu imi ni toremasuka?
     sizen( )   husizen( )
     comments:

2. yokohama-kouzyou no seisanryou ga huete iru.
2.1. kono bun o "seisanryou ga zouka-situzuketeiru" to iu imi ni tukaemasuka?
     sizen( )   husizen( )
     comments:

2.2. kono bun o "moto no seisanryou o uwamawaru (ittei no) seisanryou ga
     tamotarete iru" to iu imi ni toremasuka?
     sizen( )   husizen( )
     comments:

3. huzigawa no mizukasa ga 3-zikande hueta.
   sizen( ) husizen( )
   question: nani-ga 3-zikan kakattaka, omoiataru bamen o kaite kudasai.
   comments:

arigatou gozaimasita. kaitou wa kono e-mail goto
           loebner@ze8.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
ni oyose kudasai.
Newsgroups: sci.lang.japan