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From: Dave@usppc.abb.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DECmessageQ, hooks for 'other' networks?
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:02:45 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Anders,

If I understand you, you would like to build a client server
application which must operate between dissimilar machines
communicating over serial connections.  You are familiar with
DECmessageQ and are in a position to use it.  It requires
either DECNET or TCP/IP for transport.  To use DECmessageQ for
this application requires a way to use TCP/IP over dial-up
telephone circuits.

Use of DECmessageQ should be possible even over telephone lines 
privided that you use SLIP (Serial line internet protocol) on
the dial-up PC client and a port on the host.  I'm not sure where
you would find a good quality implementation of SLIP.  
I believe that Sun MicroSystems includes SLIP in its PC-NFS product.
It may also be a part of the TCP/IP suites of other suppliers (FTP Software in the USA) or in public domain PC internetworking packages available by anonymous FTP.  Perhaps others can help.  A number of the
commercial packages work properly with Microsoft Windows 3.1 and
respect other protocols which share a connection (probably true
only for those riding on ethernet).

I don't know if there is a way for DEC Pathworks to be used with DECmessageQ over serial lines.  Perhaps some DIGITAL personel can help.

Perhaps other readers can recommend or better differentiate the
available MS/DOS TCP/IP products and the availability of SLIP
for them.

Happy hunting
Dave Hamby			Dave.Hamby@usppc.abb.com
ABB Power Plant Controls
From: ken@PSUEDVAX.PSU.EDU ("Kenneth J. Hoover")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Wow!! re hooking up VT's with 4-wire phone line
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:54:47 GMT
Organization: The Internet


	Wow!

	I have, so far, more than 20 responses to my question on how to
wire up VT-series terminals with 4-wire phone line.  This is terrific!

	I'll put together a summary and post it in a day or two.

						- Ken Hoover
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From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Kermit packet size
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:46:46 GMT
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Nov8.100814.4347@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:
> In article <1992Nov7.155642.1192@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:
>> Kermit-32
>> 	The latest *production* version available from Columbia is 3.3.126. 
>> This does not support long packets.  You can pull off a test version that does. 
>> I believe the latest test is T3.4.018.
> 
>   Actually, long packet support was introduced in 3.3.118, but had some
> minor problems which weren't fixed until 3.3.123. 3.3.126 fully supports
> long packets.

As several people have already pointed out, I was mistaken.  It turns out that
our Kermit help library was not updated so when I checked the help to see if it
was there, it wasn't.  I apologize for misleading anyone.

-- 

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EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA     Office:  (604) 389-3430    Fax: (604) 389-3412
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: DAVISM@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael T. Davis)
Subject: Printer formats under DECwindows
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:07:56 GMT


	Is there a way, supported or not, of extending the list of printer
formats presented to DECwindows users from the print widget?  For example, we
might like to define a printer for DECW$PRINTER_FORMAT_HPGL, but that's not a
supported format.  Ideally, there would be a logical name like DECW$PRINTER_-
FORMATS which lists all the formats supported locally; then the specific DECW$-
PRINTER_FORMAT_xx logical names would list the appropriate printer(s).

							Thanks,
							 Mike
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From: sbrant@npal.rn.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: system tuning help request
Date: 5 Nov 92 00:51:40 EDT
Organization: PalNet -- Indianapolis, Indiana

Sorry about sending out a blank post.  I was using vi to create it
and when I hit a down arrow key, it blanked out the text, errored out and
sent a blank file and returned to news! Geez.

anyway, I was wondering if anyone could offer some expert guidenance.

Running VMS 5.4-3 and using vi for editor.  Problem:

with no other jobs running, can be typing along and all of a sudden,
everything come to a halt.  No chars on screen.  Wait 5 secs and all
starts up again and chars on screen are printed catching up with those
typed while on hold.  This is very strange and getting quite annoying.

It is like the system is going off to do some job that takes everything
I have for about 5 secs, then comes back to me.  

Nothing I have found sets this off.  It will occur when typing a line
and I can type several line, or sometimes several words and wham.

Watching the system on a second port with MON CLU while in vi on first
port show only about 10% CPU, 15% mem, 1% disk, and 0 Locks.  And not
much changes even when the problem hits on the other port.

The 'hold time' seems to be constant, always about 5 secs, then it comes
back.

I have autogened the system several times and have also tweeked several
items in modparams based on input from several other sys mans to 'improve'
system performance.  System performance does not seem to improve much 
no matter what I have done.  

Again, running VMS5.4-3 on 16 meg ram, MVII.

any suggestions or ideas are most welcomed.  If there is interest in
system tuning,  I will be most happy to summ up all e-mail and post as
a FAQ.  or can add it here as an addition to the listserver for mail access.


  Thanks for your help and guidance.

  regards;


 

D
Thanks for your help and guideance  -- 

                                                     Steven B. Brant
________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: mats@efd.lth.se (Mats Akerberg)
Subject: Re: Help me for update CSWING
Organization: EFD, Lund Inst. of Technology, Lund, Sweden
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:11:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.143123.1@cmu.unige.ch> chappuis@cmu.unige.ch (Alain Chappuis (CMU, Geneva)) writes:
> Please send me the Ftp address where I found this program.

You can find it on rigel.efd.lth.se (130.235.52.10).
The file is PATCH_DIFF.BCK and remeber to grab the 00READ.ME
as well.

                  /Mats
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  Lund Institute of Technology ,School of Electrical Engineering and  
  Computer Sciences. Snail: Box 118  S-221 00 Lund Sweden
  Phone: + 46 46-109847 FAX: + 46 46-104013
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Modem dialer for vms
From: rewise@musctn.monsanto.com (Richard Wiseman - VAX/VMS CraftsPerson)
Date: 4 Nov 92 11:15:15 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: drboll

	Good day to one and all:+:+

	with VMS dec supplies a modem dialer program... But of course
	It only speaks DMCL.. 
	What I'am looking for is a modified version that can talk to a HAYES
	compatible modem...

	OPerating system VAX_VMS
	version 5.5-1
	Modem type   Generic HAYEs

	If such an animial exists , it would sure save me a lot of time,
	and besides theres no need to reinvent the wheel..-- 

				Thanks in advance
				...rew
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From: system@NIUHEP.PHYS.NIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: What's the difference between 5.5-2HW and Remastered 5.5-2HW?
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:00:41 GMT
Organization: The Internet

According to the notes that came with the upgrade kit the Remastered sets
are simply set up to initialize your system disk and dump the new version
of vms on it.

Robert Morphis

system%niu.hepnet@lbl          BITNET
system@phys.niu.edu            INTERNET
NIU::SYSTEM                    HEPNET

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: st@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Stephen W. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: EVE specins function? (or 'How to enter hex?')
Keywords: EVE TPU hex specins
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:57:32 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Some null characters were in a file received from 'elsewhere'.  I'd like
to know how to do a global replace to make the nulls into spaces.
How does one enter the null (x'00') character in EVE?

I found how to enter arbitary characters in EDT using the SPECINS feature.
Using the SET KEYPAD WPS doesn't seem to provide this feature in EVE,
though.

I know about the Quote character ^V, but that doesn't seem to help me with
the null character, does it?

My understanding is that EVE is primarily a text-only editor.  But since
you can quote certain control characters, I have hopes that I can specify
the null as I can the form feed (^L) character.

Lastly, though my need currently is to remove the nulls, I hope that your
answer would enable me to *insert* nulls if I needed to at another time.

Thanks for any help.  Answer directly and I'll summarize to the list.

Steve



--
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Institute for Research on Higher Education, thompson@a1.quaker.upenn.edu -OR-
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Kerberos for VMS, part II
From: laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut)
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:08:32 EDT
Organization: Gull Island Consultants, Inc.


	Hello again, everyone!

	Back before the "flicker fight" started, I had posted an article,
mentioning that I was working on a port of Kerberos to VMS.  At that time,
I had received a few responses from folks who thought it sounded interesting 
and/or who had volunteered to do part of the work.

	I'm still very much excited about the idea of making "Kerby/VMS" a
"community project" that everyone is welcome to participate in. Therefore,
lest *THAT* particular thread die, I am reposting it again here. For
everyone who is still interested in working on the "Kerberos for VMS"
project, please post or e-mail me.  Especially, if you wouldn't mind doing 
some of the work and/or have an old MicroVAX that you can temporarily 
"donate" to the project, that we can run the software on as things develope.

	So that we can rise above the flamer(s) on the net, we'll also
explore the option of either creating a MODERATED newsgroup to cut out the
trash, and/or have a private mailing-list to the discussions. This is too
good of a chance for us to use the Internet for what it's best at doing,
namely bringing lots of technically skilled and talented people together,
for the common cause of creating something that will bless alot of users out
there, to let it be killed by a few power-hungry megalomaniacs. 

	I am awaiting your replies, and eager to hop into "turbocharge
mode." (:-).

-- 
Bill Laut			Internet:  laut@alien.gici.com
Gull Island Consultants, Inc.	Phone:     (616) 780-3321
Muskegon, MI  49440		>> "Usual disclaimers, apply within" <<

"Your majesty, I have a message from God for you."	-- Judges 3:20
From: partensky@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: awk need
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:45:18 GMT
Reply-To: partensky@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

Hi, I am wondering if there is a VMS version of AWK available for ftp.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: TPU -- get process info question
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:49:50 GMT

In article <Bx91zz.9wF@nocusuhs.nnmc.navy.mil>, yoshikami@usuhsb.ucc.usuhs.nnmc.navy.mil (UCC MR. D M YOSHIKAMI) writes:
> 
> 
> Quick TPU question.  We have a small tpu script in which it would be nice to
> have the USERNAME (right now we have to enter it by hand).  Is there a way to
> do the equivalent of GETJPI("","USERNAME") without going through a lot of
> trouble?  I was looking for a function (maybe I overlooked something in the 
> manual?), and thought I'd eventually have to spin off a subprocess to look it 
> up, which seems to be an awful lot of work for so simple a function.

    There is no TPU built-in function to do what you want.  

    OTOH, you can write a TPU_CALLUSER program (shareable image), in the
language of your choice, which in turn calls, e.g. LIB$GETJPI, and returns
the information you wanted to your TPU procedure.  Look in the VAXTPU manual 
(page 7-39/7-42 in the VMS V5.2 docs) for the description of CALL_USER.  It
contains an example VAX BASIC (really! ;-).  

    The only tricky part of all this is that the string _returned_ by your 
procedure must be by DYNAMIC string descriptor (which is why the example is
in BASIC).  In Fortran, which uses static descriptors, you'll need to call
STR$GET1_DX and STR$COPY_DX in order to "get and fill" a dynamic string.
From C, you should be able to use the DESCRIP.H macros to handle the
descriptors.  Someone else will have to comment on PASCAL...

-- 
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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: MOTIF 1.1 server dying
Date: 13 Nov 92 12:15:37 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1dum18INNknh@sol.usc.edu>, asbed@sol.usc.edu (Asbed Bedrossian) writes:
> I started the file a little early so that you can see the two missing files:
> DECW$SVEXT_SHAPE.EXE;
> DECW$SERVER_EXTENSION_SHAPE.EXE;
> 
> I can't find these files anywhere in the distribution.
> 
> Has anyone seen this problem, any clues, any help? all's appreciated in
> advance.

  The "missing" files support the X Shape Extension, a feature DEC doesn't
provide in the VMS version for some reason. However, I think that may be
unrelated to your crash, since I've run things which request that extension
and haven't had any ACCVIO's. Of course, you don't get much useful screen
output...

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: GLOESENER@MENVAX.RESTENA.LU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: system tuning help request
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:59:08 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

From:	MENVAX::GLOESENER     9-NOV-1992 12:04:55.68
To:	SMTP%"RELAY-INFO-VAX@CRVAX.SRI.COM"
CC:	GLOESENER
Subj:	RE: system tuning help request

From:	SMTP%"RELAY-INFO-VAX@CRVAX.SRI.COM"  7-NOV-1992 21:24:26.59
To:	info-vax@kl.sri.com
CC:	
Subj:	system tuning help request


>Running VMS 5.4-3 and using vi for editor.  Problem:
>
>with no other jobs running, can be typing along and all of a sudden,
>everything come to a halt.  No chars on screen.  Wait 5 secs and all
>starts up again and chars on screen are printed catching up with those
>typed while on hold.  This is very strange and getting quite annoying.
>
>It is like the system is going off to do some job that takes everything
>I have for about 5 secs, then comes back to me.  
>
>Nothing I have found sets this off.  It will occur when typing a line
>and I can type several line, or sometimes several words and wham.
>
>Watching the system on a second port with MON CLU while in vi on first
>port show only about 10% CPU, 15% mem, 1% disk, and 0 Locks.  And not
>much changes even when the problem hits on the other port.
>
>The 'hold time' seems to be constant, always about 5 secs, then it comes
>back.
>
>I have autogened the system several times and have also tweeked several
>items in modparams based on input from several other sys mans to 'improve'
>system performance.  System performance does not seem to improve much 
>no matter what I have done.  
>


This problem in VAXen going very slow for a few seconds can come from many
sources. Since I have no access to your system I can only tell you a very
common cause wich is not nessecarely seen by AUTOGEN. Get your hands on the
key board and make a MONITOR PAGE. Now watch at the 'System fault rate'
if this frequently grows over 1 or enev 2 then you probably have located the
cause here. Simply run SYSGEN and raise the SYSMWCNT parameter. Do not raise
it to high ! A value around 2000 should be a good idea. Since this parameter
is no dynamic you need to reboot to check its impact and ic necessary raise
it again.

If you have accesss to PSI you may send me a MONITOR record file with all
classes in it to PSI%0270442110::system I will look at it and send you 
the result of the analyzes. If you do not have PSI you can send it via
SMTP but to another address (GLOESENER@menvax.restena.lu) but since my 
quota is limited on that machine you should tell me first the size of your
record file so that I can ask for more quota first !

Sending binary files can be done by the SEND/FOREIGN command in VMS/MAIL.

                                                Gasty Gloesener

-GG-
From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Reading ERRLOG.SYS without disturbing ERRFMT
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:01:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

Do a BACKUP/IGNORE=INTERLOCk to copy the file with minimal interferance.
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Calculating record length
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 08:49:50 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Alan J. Canellis (no address in his .sig, and Portal doesn't pull in the
arrival address for me here) writes:
 
>	Does anyone have a way to calculate a record size that would fit in a
>1 foot segment of a mag tape (assuming 1/2 inch tape gap).  Given that I know
>density, # of tracks and speed of tape drive.  I want to count the number of
>feet of tape on a reel and check for parity errors.

This may possibly be naive, but it's what I do:

Given an IRG physical size of 0.5 inch, leaves 11.5 inches for data.  11.5
inches x density = amount of data.  If density is N "cpi" (characters/inch),
then 11.5 inches will hold (11.5)(N) characters.  That's your record length
in bytes.  

Is there any reason or way this calculation doesn't make sense to anyone out
there?  Gurus?

That "Dynamic Tape Accelerator" product that somebody (I forget who) makes,
uses tape length information and somehow keeps track of where it is on a 
tape, so this IS a "doable" thing we're discussing.

Chris Chiesa
  Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
From: PARSONS@GC.MARICOPA.EDU ("As if you weren't busy enough...")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: PrintServer 20
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:44:37 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Hello out there in netland,
The situation exist as such:
    We have Macs networked to our VAX trying to print Palatino fonts on a
PrintServer 20.  The font works fine on their locally attached printer, but
gets "munched" when sent to the PrintServer.

Known facts:
     The manual has been of no help.  The defined font outlines list does not
include Palatino as an option.

So the question is:
     Does anyone know of a quick, painless, and hopefully inexpesive way of
installing new fonts onto a PrintServer 20?  Or can one of the existing fonts
be rearranged to accomplish this?

Reply to me personally please, I'll summarize if enough is gathered.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: SSMITH@husky1.stmarys.ca (Stephen P. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Terminal Server settings for modems
Keywords: modem, terminal server
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:52:21 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's U


We are trying to have a terminal server port answer a modem. We get the 
modem to answer and send dat to the terminal server but theterminal server 
doesn't answer the modem. We have tried different modems and terminal 
servers but no luck. Separately each works fine but together no communicate. 
Could someone send me the settings for a Decserver 200 or Vista terminal 
server to see if we have the config right.

Thanks in advance

Steve Smith
Steve Smith
Manager, Systems and Operations
Saint Mary's University
Halifax, N.S.

Internet: ssmith@husky1.stmarys.ca
Phone: 902 420-5477
From: mgrthh@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Thomas H. Hopson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Q: Homegrown COPY? FAQ?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:46:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mgrthh@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Thomas H. Hopson)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu


In article <68931@cup.portal.com>, Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com writes:
>  I'm getting embroiled in a programming project that I'm almost certain has 
>to be fairly common, if not actually a VMS FAQ.  Namely, writing something to
>emulate VMS COPY, with local extensions.  Has anybody done such a thing? 
> [etc]

   I have written a GIVE program which lets students submit files to
   professors, which addresses a lot of what you want to do.  The access
   control works the other way around, but that's not the really difficult
   part.

   If you're interested, contact me and I'll get the sources to you.

							- Tom

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Terre Haute, Indiana
From: gleeve@galaxy.dnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: pd spreadsheet
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:32:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

You can get AnalyRIM from the DECUS library (VS0024) which is
a reasonable spreadsheet integrated with a relational DBMS (yet)
and runs on VMS, Open VMS (alpha VMS), unix, RSX11M / 11D,
AmigaDos, MSDOS, and probably isn't too hard to port to any reasonable
other system. It comes with source. If you get the European edition of
the VAX SIG tapes from the US (there is a European tree, but I know
little of its details), if you have the Fall 1991 and Spring 1992
tapes you're pretty nearly up to date. (I got mouse support working
with DECwindows lately on VAX/VMS and Alpha/VMS; that will be on
the DECUS alpha CD and the next set of VMS SIG tapes, but hasn't
gotten out otherwise. Apart from the fancier console mode (mouse
support and color, that is), it is not functionally different from
what's on the F91/S92 tapes.

   There have been ports of SC for VMS on VAX SIG tapes also in the
last year or two and there have been some others around.
   There is a DECUS office in Geneva which ought to have some idea
how to get to DECUS France.

   AnalyRIM is not exactly like some other spreadsheets because when
it was initially spec'd, I had seen less than a total of 5 minutes
of demos of what any other spreadsheet did, and so did some things
differently...every cell on the sheet is in effect its own window
onto the real spreadsheet, something like 9 or 10 different cell
addressing modes, built in matrix math, every cell separately
programmable, long integer or floating numbers, multiple equations
per cell, etc. etc.
   This doesn't make it hard to use, just a little different from
what you might get from experience with a PC.
Glenn
Everhart@raxco.com