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From: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu (Bob Rahe)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: ProLife, ProMurder, ProCrime And Iraq
Date: 28 Jan 1993 02:56:51 GMT
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
Distribution: usa
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In article <1993Jan25.162856.1426@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
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In article <1993Jan25.162856.1426@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:

>If not, why not?  If the fetus is no different than a hangnail, why 
>shouldn't pro-abortioners think that abortion was a good thing, and 
>that in many cases, especially unwed mothers, that abortion would 
>be desired? 

>Ted

  Ahhh, the crux of the hypocrisy of the pro-abortion stand.  If it's only
a hangnail, why all the 'heartwrenching' decisions?  Why are these women
making all these momentous decisions?  I didn't go thru all that angst
when I had some relatively minor surgery that removed more tissue volume
than most abortions.  Could it be that IT REALLY IS MORE THAN A BUNCH OF
TISSUE?  Could it be that deep down they don't really believe that it
isn't a baby?  Could it?
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From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: LET THE BOYCOTT BEGIN!
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:05:16 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

>In <1993Jan25.115934.5213@wkuvx1.bitnet>:

>>How sterotypical can you be?

>>Bill Cosby has the nerve to stereotype all Souther white males
>>as hillbillies and "bubbas". Talk about hypocracy, If I (white,male)
>>were to go on t.v. and stereotype all southern black as a bunch of
>>welfare cheats, drug dealers, and lazy. THen I would be thrown in jail
>>for violating his "constitutional rights".

>Where did you see this?  I'm not claiming it's false, but I've neither seen nor
>heard it anywhere.  I'd at least like to give the man the benefit of the doubt
>before I judge him.  I'd like to see the actual words in print and IN CONTEXT--
>his race is irrelevant.

It happened in one of Bill's balls.  Cosby was dressed in bib overalls and
plaid shirt while the brothers Bozone were all suited up and, it seemed to
me, trying really hard not to look offended.

|===========================================================================|
|Don Wiggins, German-Irish-American    | Success is getting what you want.  |
| & Advance Scout for the Baby Boomers | Happiness is wanting what you get. |
|Internet: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |     -- Brother Dave Gardner        |
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
Subject: Re: Read this if you are straight!
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: world,usa,alt,na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:25:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.010744.12977@netcom.com> jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
#In article <1993Jan25.214250.7296@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
##In article <C1E1nB.3J4.1@cs.cmu.edu> 
##garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
#
###krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
##
#### I just had an idea!  Let's all lobby to get gays recognized as a 
#### bonified minority with special rights.  
#### ^^^^^^^^
##
### I know that Kreuger is just excersizing 
###             ^^^^^^          ^^^^^^^^^^
##
##I think Susan Garvin's misspelling of "exercising" and "Krueger"
##is at least as funny as Ted Krueger's misspelling of "bona fide".  
##Is anyone keeping score on this thread??   Do I win a prize??!! 
##... huh, huh??... yuk yuk... (note intentional misspelling of "yuk").
#
#I don't want to start a flame war, and certainly don't want to start 
#a flame spelling war, but 1) some people don't have a decent on-line
#editor available and/or are operating a low baud rates, and 2) some
#people are handicapped/disabled/whatever and have a hard enough 
#time typing out recognizable sentences, much less perfect ones. 
#
#Just something to consider before you pounce on someone who might
#very well be using a pencil held between their teeth to type out 
#their posts.  Of course, I'm responding to a post by someone 
#who decided to send all follow-ups to misc.test, so my words will 
#fall on his deaf ears to be sure, but perhaps others will find them
#useful.

My mistakes were simply that - mistakes.  I misspelled the words.

Doug Holtsinger is obsessed with following me from group to group,
flaming each post.  I found it particularly amusing that, in this
case, he tried to make it appear that I had highlighted the
original mispelling of "bona fide" when I had not.  I'll 
probably get another laugh when he misrepresents my words
as he follows up this article.

(Yes, that last sentence was meant to forestall his follow-up.
I've found that the only way for me to escape his inane
follow-ups in groups other than talk.abortion is to mention
his obsession in the original article.  I apologize to the world
at large for not doing so when I commented here earlier - I
hate to think how many people got unwanted mail from his
misc.test line.)

Susan






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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: control
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:27:06 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

(John E Jablonski) writes:
(Adrienne Regard) writes:
>|> Well, Paul, I am a DEFINITE human life.  And no other DEFINITE human life 
>|> gets to use my body against my will.  NONE.  Reconcile that.
>|> 
>|> Adrienne Regard
>
>Adrienne,
>   It's a damn good thing no one aborted you, or you wouldn't even be able to
>have this discussion.  How about giving others the chance to be born
>and do the same things you can do?

	"It's a damn good thing that no one contracepted you...  So how about
NEVER using contraception to give others the chance to be born?"

This chain of reasoning can be extended through early marriage, frequent
sex, etc..   In the end it reduces us to the status of brood mares and
sperm donors to service the needs of as yet unborn future generations,
each of whom will themselves be enslaved by this sanctification of
reproduction.

There are better arguements.
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From: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu (Bob Rahe)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: ProLife, ProMurder, ProCrime And Iraq
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:09:52 GMT
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.dtcc.edu

In article <1993Jan26.152124.8182@seachg.uucp> chrisb@seachg.UUCP (Chris Blask) writes:

>>Why don't you say "pro-abortion" if that's what you mean?
>
> Why don't you say "anti-choice"  if that's what you mean?

  Because, pro-life is not anti-choice, it is only anti ONE of those choices.
The pro-abortion  movement is ONLY fighting over ONE of those choices.
Therefor, call 'em what they are.


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Blacks on Star Trek 
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:35:14 GMT

In article <C1IwD7.FE3@specialix.com> jim@specialix.com (Jim Maurer) writes:
>The actress who played Nurse Chapel was Majel Barrett, and she was
>Gene Roddenberry's wife, *not* William Shatner's.  And I believe
>they got married after she got the part.

Yeah, next thing you'll be telling me is that Pluto is farther away
than Neptune and that 2000 isn't a leap year.

Ted "a.f.u. FAQ mentions down 50%" Frank
-- 
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standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
Subject: Re: Deficit
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:46:36 GMT

Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: In article <C1ALA4.EpB@unix.portal.com> mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
: >Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: >: In article <C18sw2.A51@unix.portal.com> mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
: >: >Ted Frank (thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: >: >: Deficit as percent of GNP doesn't tell us enough -- I wouldn't mind
: >: >: a high percentage, just so long as the economy is growing faster than
: >: >: the debt.  I'm going to use debt/GNP rather than deficit/GNP.
: >: >: 
: >: >: As percent of GNP, debt (rather than deficit) was steadily declining
: >: >: from Truman to Nixon, levelled under Nixon, stayed level until Reagan,
: >: >: and has been skyrocketing ever since.
: >: >
: >: >Why not consider debt to income ratio?  
: >
: >No, income is tax (and other) revenues.  About $1.2 Trillion in 1992.
: 
: But "tax revenues" tells us too little.  If taxes are 2% of GNP, then
: there's lots of room to expand "tax revenues."  If taxes are a huge
: proportion of GNP, there isn't.  If we need to include GNP in the
: equation to make the "tax revenue" ratio tell us anything, then
: we might as well use GNP, and cut out the middleman.
: 

Tax revenues do not tell us too little.  GNP tells us too little :)
Actually GNP tells us what tax revenues will be.  Revenues are about
26% of GNP.  Its been that way for a long time, too.  Juggling various
tax rates will still keep it at 26% - it just shifts the burden of
paying the tax.

: >If you really take GNP into account, you need to consider public AND
: >private sector debt...
: 
: Be my guest.  But that's a different topic than the one everyone else
: was talking about.

It is not a different topic.  If you use GNP instead of revenues, then the
total of all debt could easily be $18 Trillion or more, without problem.


: -- 
: ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
: standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
: the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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From: popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,uiuc.politics,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Campaign funding a joke
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:40:57 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX

kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes:

> mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
> 
> >I've heard of a republic, for sure.  But why do we need a republic?  Or 
> >more appropriately, why DID we need a republic?  Let's send paul revere
> >from town to town and get him to poll everyone on everything, right?
> >More like it is that we do NOW have the ability to vote on public agenda
> >every year and get complete vote tally within a few hours...
> 
>    Just because we have the technical capacity does not mean it is a good
> idea.  The public gets far too rapped up and emotional over issues, and
> a more delibrate process is necessary.  
> 
> 


What seems like  a good idea today may turn out to be a foolish idea when 
you think about it for a while and consider all the possible 
ramifications.  A mass media convention called prematurely might lead 
craven politicians to crater in to public demands for actions that later 
turn out to be foolish.

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Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX, (713) 481-3763
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
Subject: Re: Hillary (Was: What can we expect....)
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:34:32 GMT

Don Wiggins (wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
: 
:  >starbuck@galaxy.ucr.edu (starbuck) writes:
: 
:   >>Now she is comming above ground with an office in the White House
: 
:  >Funny, I don't recall any fuss about Mrs. Bush's office in the 
:  >White House.  (The one in which she ghost wrote Millie's book.)
: 
: Well, I don't recall that Ms. Bush was given the same level of power
: that Ms. Clinton has either.  Influence?  Sure.  What president's
: spouse -- or any spouse for that matter -- doesn't influence his/her
: mate?
: 
: Anyway I don't see what the fuss is either, but not for the reason you
: state.  Governor Clinton said from the beginning that a vote for him
: was a vote for her.  That was clearly acceptable to enough voters to
: put the two of them in the oval office.
: 

I don't have any real problems with what the Clintons do about spreading
the work.  However, Hillary is an outright liberal while her husband
claims to be a moderate.  For whatever that's worth (i.e. did we vote
for liberal policies or not?).  As well, if she gets into trouble/scandal,
what can Bill do about it?  It seems to not be a good idea on this latter
point.

: |===========================================================================|
: |Don Wiggins, German-Irish-American    | Success is getting what you want.  |
: | & Advance Scout for the Baby Boomers | Happiness is wanting what you get. |
: |Internet: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu |     -- Brother Dave Gardner        |
: |===========================================================================|
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: staggers@cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: What will Bush and Quayle do now?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:01:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.1]

MAUREEN BURNS (psburns@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov) wrote:

: I am just interested in knowing what Bush and Quayle are planning to do 
: with themselves now that their administration is behind them?  Fish?  Ski? 
: Have either of them made any plans?  I think I heard on the news that Bush 
: is building a new home somewhere,  leading me to believe retirement is his 
: choice.   How about Quayle?

I heard that the Quayles will remain in Washington until the school year is
over, then they will move (back to Indiana?).  Marilyn has said that she
intends to go into private law practice again.

--Ken

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Zoe Baird, Support Her !!!!!!!!!!
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:09:18 GMT

<In article <C18EDD.5zx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes:

<Conservatives: now is the time to suppport a Clinton nominee.  

	Yeah, that ought to be the last straw; it would turn
	Feinstein's vote like a shot.

<Mrs. Baird is a good lawyer 
	
	Oxymoron.

<who believes in many conservative ideas, but she is being
<publicly lynched over a MINOR infraction.             

	That "minor" infraction, hiring illegal aliens and failing
	to pay Federal taxes, has put more than one small business
	person in bankruptcy.

	If New Mexico lettuce farmers who barely graduated from
	High School have to obey the law *to the letter*, I fail
	to see why the head lawyer of Aetna and her Yale University
	professor partner can get off with a slap on the wrist.

<Bill's next nominee will not be as conservative as Zoe Baird, 

	Probably not, but Mr. Bill will be shaking up his
	cabinet in less than a year, possibly by Summer,
	so the point will be moot before long in any event.

<and we can't afford someone more liberals.

	Too late; 43%  were fooled.
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Free at last!!
Keywords: Liberals, Republican Prez, Why?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:33:49 EST
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department

fdeck@vyasa.helios.nd.edu (francis deck) writes:

> We are free at last from an executive branch which believes
> that it is above the law, and that its purpose is to enrich
> private individuals.  At least I hope that will turn out to
> be the case.  We're free from a guy who calls himself a
> conservative, but who has taken initiatives on any number
> of occasions to increase the size and power of his own
> branch of government.  We are free from someone who caters
> to the right wing, e.g. Rush Limbaugh and the TV preachers.
> We are free to tell our children that the way to the top is
> not the way of crime.

You mean Clinton got impeached? Geez, I skip watching the news for one
day, and look what happens...


--
"To call something 'Public' is to define it as filthy, inefficient and
dangerous. The public toilet is the epitome of social spending."
                                                 - P.J. O'Rourke

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners)
Subject: Inherant characteristics of inanimate objects
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:49:23 GMT


     I saw on one of the Network newscasts that President Clinton is using the
same desk in the newly redecorated Oval Office (I wonder how much that cost)
that was used by former Presidents JFK and Ronald Reagan.

     When I heard it, I didn't know quite what to make our of it- almost hoping
that there was a possibility that President Clinton would draw some powers
from the desk. I started to ponder what he could get from the previous owners
of the desk.

     My results? From Ronald Reagan- pride in America, a strong defense and
good economic policy. From JFK- phone numbers of old girlfriends that were
carved in the top.

     Anyone else?
-- 
:  Michael R. Conners              : "Fighting for truth, justice, and the   :
:  THE Ohio State University       :  American Way." - what that guy says    :
:  College of Business             :  on "Superman"                          :
From: kebarnes@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Theme Music FAQ
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:23:15 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1993Jan25.220510.11548@mcc.com>,
amck@rowdy.mcc.com (Alan McKendree) writes:

[snip!]
> As possibly the only national talk-show host, particularly a
> conservative one, in captivity, who obviously understands and
> appreciates music written post-1967, why does Rush use The Pretender's
> "My City Was Gone" (thanks for the correction) as his theme music?  Is
> he a long-time fan of the group?  Is he from Ohio?  Or what?
>  -- 
> Alan McKendree

No, he's from Cape Girardeau, MO.

I suppose he uses it because it's got a good groove.

Or, maybe there's something in the lyrics...  Anyone?

Cordially
KB, keeper of the 'HIT' LIST

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From: johnch@test22.sun.com (Slam the Crank from Wheezer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: God is intolerant of sin!
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:25:30
Organization: Impossible Missions Force
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In-reply-to: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com's message of 13 Jan 93 16:51:00 GMT

In article <SSH.93Jan13165100@snow.boulder.ibm.com> ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994)) writes:

   There are a lot of assumptions in your statements: that sexuality is inborn,
   that it is better to go with this inborn tendency than to make the effort to
   change it, and that pressure to change someone is harmful.  There is no
   evidence to support any of these assumptions.  No matter how strongly anyone
   *believes* them, there is no scientific evidence for them.  From the Christian
   perspective, in fact, these are all false according to the scriptures (if you
   don't take scriptures as true, of course, this statement is meaningless).

No matter how strongly anyone *believes* them, there is no scientific
evidence for them.  Sound familiar?

   Hence, as far as I'm concerned, your argument is based on false assumptions.

Hence, as far as I'm concerned, your argument is based on false assumptions.

-- JC
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From: lkk@panix.com (Larry Kolodney)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Blacks on TV (was Re: LET THE BOYCOTT BEGIN!)
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:52:03 GMT
Organization: The Devil's Advocate

In <1993Jan27.022313.17558@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

>My law school roommates watch a disproportionate number of legal dramas,
>and I can't help but notice how (1) the majority of judges on these shows
>are black, and (2) the majority of the black judges are women.


Yes, I've noticed this as well.  There's a TV ad for (I think) a
credit card or maybe western union, where this judge fines some poor
sucker for speeding, and he needs cash real fast.  The judge is black.

Also, just last night I saw "Body of Evidence," Madonna's latest
vehicle for exposing herself (silly, poorly acted plot, very high
production values on the extremely titilating sex scenes).  There's an
extended courtroom scene and the judge is a black woman who is
constantly putting the two white male lawyers in their place (and
creating numerous grounds for a mistrial, but that's another story).


-- 
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