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From: fsrla@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: exit
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:59:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1992Apr7.125917.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I was wondering if anybody has had experience with the bass guitars I'm
about to list.  they are the ones that are in my price range (up to and 
including $600).  If so, can you tell me how you like them and how they
perform?????
________________________________________________________________________
(in alphabetical order)
1. Alvarez--Villain ($600)
2. Bass Collection--SB-301 ($499)
3. Epiphone--EBM-4 ($579)
4. Fender--JP-90 ($500)
5. Honer--JJ BASS ($550)
6. Ibanez--EXB404 ($400)
7. Jackson--Concert Bass Special ($495)
8. Jerry Jones--Longhorn Bass 4 ($595)
9. Peavey--B-Ninet ($500)
10. Samick--YB639 ($500)
11. Series 10--Master ($469)
12. Squire--H.M. IV ($410)
13. Stinger-- SBL ($425)
14. Yamaha-- RBX550 ($599)
______________________________________________________________________________
Thanks in advance!!!!!                              ROG!
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Mon,  6 Apr 1992 23:00:04 -0400 
From: Paul Andrew Platosh <pp21+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: CANDY AND THE BITCH
	<1992Apr6.234035.16769@news.cs.brandeis.edu>

>	No. What kind of person names their guitars? They're a hunk of
>         wood. HeLLO!
 If your guitar is a hunk of wood, I suggest you get a new guitar.
Great guitar legends name their guitars (BB King - Lucielle[sp?])
==Paul Platosh
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: daveh@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David L. Herrington)
Subject: Re: Fender "Elite" Strat?
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 02:15:43 GMT


To those who responded to my query about the Fender Stratocaster
Elite, please accept my sincerest thanks.  I bought it yesterday.
It's red with a maple neck and gold trim.  Serial number is in
the E300000's.  The owner bought it new in 1984;  I bought it
from the original owner.  The guitar is in mint condition, with
the exception of the volume control knob which has a shaky feel
to it (I suspect from being hit too many times with the right
hand) although the knob is fully functional.  Owner was asking
$295;  I paid $280.  I'm ecstatic!

--Dave
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: miani@ibm1.uucp (Rich Miani)
Subject: Mail Order Advice
Organization: NYNEX S&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:09:10 GMT

Anybody care to recommend a good mail order firm that they've dealt with 
in the past ? Any info, experiences ( especially returned merchandise
experience ) would be appreciated :-)

Thanks,
Rich
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Yamaha Or Ibanez??? Help!!!
Summary: Yamaha with L.E.D. fret markers
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:14:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


	I seen a really cool Yamaha electric about a month ago. Its body was
	shaped like a 335 only it was about 7/8 of that size. It was also a 
	solid body. It looked like neck thru constuction with a maple cap.
	The electronics were active(maybe EMG). But the nicest feature was
	that the dots on the top of neck were ity-bity, teeny-weeny, tiny
	L.E.D's. They were flush finished into the neck binding. They cannot
	be seen except by the guy playing the guitar. I have seen novelty
	guitars with L.E.D's all over the neck and body before. But the
	Yamaha was very well constucted and played very well, not to mention
	the sound was very good.  This was not the SG3000 style guitar, it
	was a 1991 Pacifica. Now if I only had a spare $1000.00 layin around

	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
	Come on down to the Sippin E-Z
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cliffw@sequent.com
Subject: Re: scales
Keywords: scales
Organization:  Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 22:29:21 GMT

In article <44463@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jasdzews@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary James Jasdzewski) writes:
>Sometimes these major and minor scales sound to mainstream or
>something in my songs.  What can a person do?  How do you know if you
>can use a diminished scale over major and minor chords, etc.
>
>Make sense?


several suggestions:

-get a theory book.. Chord chemistry is good as a reference.

-minor chords...avoid any scale that has a major third.

-major chords ...almost anything can work once.

this leads to the best suggestion:

every day, tape some chords. or just a chord.
try some scales over the chord.
write down the ones that work for your taste and
style. transpose these into all keys..

final suggestion: diminished scales can work over anything.
if the first one you try sounds bad, try one a half step up
or down..

all the books in the world will not substitute for your ears.
books can show you possiblities and rules, but it is up to
you to make the possible work. 

-- 
cliffw

'When the going gets wierd, the wierd turn pro'- HST
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ryanr@CS.ColoState.EDU (richard ryan)
Subject: Re: SRV model Strat
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:29:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

G & L whammy's attach to either the top or the the bottom of the bridge.
Good whammies, too. However, gimme an 40's L-5 with a Bigsby any day.
-- 
mailing address:                                  home phone:
   813 W. Mountain Ave.				     (303)498-0828
   Ft. Collins, Co. 80521
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: atten@phil.ruu.nl (Mark van Atten)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Starting out
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:59:11 GMT
Organization: Department of Philosophy, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands

Luis.E.Scheker@dartmouth.edu (Luis E. Scheker) writes:


>     A mistake a lot of people make when first learning guitar is to
>rush into the styles of music they enjoy.  You have to learn how to
>PLAY the instrument before you can really play the music.  While it may
>seem boring to you to strum away at songs like "Hey Jude", "Take It
>Easy", "Sitting on the Dock", and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand", you're
>actually doing more than just learning easy tunes.  You're developing
>the basis of a harmonic vocabulary that will carry into your playing
>for years to come.  My recommendation?  Get yourself a Beatles
>compendium and strum away.  While several of their songs may seem
>simplistic, they have also written a lot of harmonically stunning
>pieces ("Here, There, and Everywhere" and "Yesterday" have even become
>a part of the jazz repertoire; "In My Life" is a personal favorite). 
>More than anything, make sure you have the basics down.  Learn your
>fundamental chords, then work your way through scales and melody
>playing.  I know so many "Tab players" who can sound exactly like Van
>Halen or Satriani, but can't improvise or tell you what they're
>playing.  Start out slowly, making sure you know the names and
>functions of the chords you play.  Sooner than you would imagine, you
>can be able to play anything you hear.

Absolutely right! I learned a lot from just playing chords for hours in time.
In the beginning, this was sounding very bad, and I had much trouble with
fretting, getting a clean sound, and finding interesting progressions.
However, I just kept playing, and playing, and playing...and now I am pretty
confident about my chordplaying and strumming abilities. There is always room
for improvement, but I feel I am getting somewhere.
I also found the BeAtles Complete very helpful: I mean, you see the pictures
of the real chords (thus learning some exotic ones quickly) and, because almost
everybody knows most of their songs, you know waht it could sound like.
So just practice, practice, practice!
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Scott Hannon; PHYS (GRAD))
Subject: TAB: _Get It On_
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:20:39 GMT


Get It On (Bang A Gong) by T. Rex
-----------------------

           Ep              Ap                Ev
E------------------   ---------------   ---------------
B------------------   ---------------   ---------------
G------------------   -2-2------2----   ---------------
D--2-2------2------   -2-2-4----2-4--   -2-2-----------
A--2-2-4----2-4----   -0-0-0----0-0--   -2-2-4-2-5-4-2-
E--0-0-0----0-0----   ---------------   -0-0-0---------

The above tabs are for the patterns played over the E and A chords
throughout most of the song. One varient of the Ep pattern is used
a few times (Ev), just before the chorus. Sometimes the open strings
are picked as indicated, other times they are just left ringing after
the first pick...play around with your own varients to break up the
monotony. 

     G            Gsus           A            Asus
E A D G B E   E A D G B E   E A D G B E   E A D G B E
-----------   -----------   -----------   -----------
3 5 5 4 3 3   3 5 3 5 3 3   5 7 7 6 5 5   5 7 5 7 5 5

The above bar chords sound reasonable behind the chorus. They are
designed for ease of playing...thats the whole point of this song!

Scott.
-----------------the start-----------------------

Ep

Ep                       Ep
            Well, you're dirty and sweet, clad in

Ap
black, don't look back, and I

Ep
love you

Ap
You're dirty and sweet, oh

Ep
yeah

Ep                     Ep
           Well you're slim and you're weak, you've got the

Ap
teeth of the Hydra

Ep
upon you

Ap
You're dirty, sweet, and you're my

Ep
girl

*chorus start*
Ev
     Get it

G   Gsus   Gsus   G
on,          Bang a

A   Asus   Asus    A
gong,         Get on

Ep

*repeat*
*chorus end*

(uses same chords/patterns as first verse)
You're built like a car, you've got a hub
cap diamond star
halo
You're built like a car, oh
yeah
Well, you're an untamed youth, that's the
truth, with your cloak full of
eagles
You're dirty, sweet, and you're my
girl

*chorus*

You're windy and wild, you've got the
blues in your shoes and your
stockings
You're windy and wild, oh
yeah
Well, you're built like a car, you've got a
hub cap diamond star
halo
You're dirty, sweet, and you're my
girl
 
*chorus*

You're dirty and sweet, clad in
black, don't look back, and I
love you
You're dirty and sweet, oh
yeah
Well, you dance when you walk, so lets
dance, take a chance, under...
...stand me
You're dirty, sweet, and you're my
girl

*chorus*

-----------------the end-----------------------

-- 
Scott Hannon, Wed Apr 15 1992 (hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: c9037251@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: Lookin' for an amp....
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:31:23 GMT

In article <30MAR199212575483@jane.uh.edu>, st1hz@jane.uh.edu (Meyers, David C.) writes:
>  Over spring-break I was bitten by the bug to buy a new amp. What I'd be 
> lookin' for is something around mmmmm... I guess 15 - 20 Watts. Where I
> live right now I can crank it pretty loud during the day, however I'll
> be moving in middle of summer to a much quieter place :(
>  I don't like headphones because I usually end up cranking them up and
> hurting my ears. I like to switch between a clean and distorted channel
> with out increase in volume, and and somewhere between Led Zeppelin and
> King's X distortion (overdrive).
>  Being a college student I'm on a limited budget...
>  Unless I can find a really good one, I stick with what I got and
> save my money and buy an old Marshall and Fender amps.  
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -  "for it is one thing to see the land of peace from a wooded       -
> -      ridge...and another to tread the road that leads to it."      -
> -         -st. augustine, confessions, VII, xxi                      -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -         David ---->   st1hz@jane.uh.edu			     -
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 		
My advice would be to save for a Fender or Marshall.

I stuck with a real cheap amp until i could afford a good one and it's
really worth it.

The amp i bought is a Fender Power Chorus; beautiful clean sound with 
plenty of power in the distorted channel.

-----------------
Jason Collins....

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: alib@IASTATE.EDU (Richard A Brown)
Subject: Re: needed: used acoustic
Keywords: Oz, James Taylor, Steve Howe
Reply-To: alib@IASTATE.EDU (Richard A Brown)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:59:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.234112.15030@massey.ac.nz>, H.Edwards@massey.ac.nz (H.
Edwards) writes:
> <WKM101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> Any Steve Howe (of Yes) fans out there?  

Yes. (Pun intended of course)

> A superb player of the guitar
> (electric, acoustic and classical) and related string instruments.  I
> would have to rate "The Yes Album" (his first album with Yes) as one of the
> 50 guitar albums that have most influenced my playing and appreciation of
> the guitar.

What a great album and player; I second your recommendation.  "The Clap" is
way cool fingerpickin'.

--
Ali Brown
From: karle@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kathleen R Arle)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Question about midboosters
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:43:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'm posting this for a friend who is considering putting a mid-booster tone
control on his guitar.  Does anyone have one?  Please specify brand and the
type of pickup you use.  Specify noise levels, frequencies, etc.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: Tuning a Fender Strat + ???
    <1992Apr9.232451.21026@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> 
    <1992Apr14.194015.17776@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:53:41 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr14.194015.17776@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ferrand@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian K Ferrand) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.232451.21026@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au>, rthoff@esk (Rudolph van't Hoff) writes:
>> Hey Dude,
>> 	The problem with your guitar is that:
>> 			when you push the tremolo down,
>> 			the guitar strings unwind around
>> 			the machine heads, and when they 
>> 			tension back up, they'll strech.  
>> To avoid this I suggest that you either buy a locking nut and tremolo,
>> or don't use the tremolo at all. If you just buy a locking nut($30AUS)
>> then the strings will still go out of tune at the bridge. the bridge, for
>> a cheap model would probably cost ($200AUS), or a more expensive one($400AUS)
>> but it is most likely that the most expensive one would include the nut!
>This is certainly a possibility, but adding a locking nut WILL change the
>tone of the guitar. Adding mass to the headstock changes tone a little.

how about investing in some Sperzel tuners?
i have some of the locking kind on my strat, and
they work very well... i like the roller nut, which
never Pings like other nuts can, and i HATE locking
nuts..  "sorry, i have to get out my toolbox to tune
this thing.. be back i half an hour"

aash
-- 
aash@ms.uky.edu, aash@ukma.bitnet     "the only thing i ever really wanted to
{backbone|rutgers|uunet}!ukma!aash     say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong."
aash@ukpr.uky.edu
From: corvett@csa.bu.edu (Sungyeup Kim)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: SEND ALL TAB to NEW TAB Site!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:10:39 GMT
Reply-To: corvett@csa.bu.edu (Sungyeup Kim)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <92107.125743APL105@psuvm.psu.edu> APL105@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>HOW DO I HOOK UP WITH  YOUR FTP SITE..  IM ON THE PENN STATE MAINFRAME.
>What about passwords to get in???

Yeap, I'm also want to know anout that !!!!
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: MHIRS00@ricevm1.rice.edu (Hirsh, Marc Bennett)
Subject: 2 lyric requests: The Who, T. Rex
Organization: Rice University, Houston, TX
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:33:41 GMT

Does anybody have the lyrics to "Get It On (Bang A Gong)" by T. Rex? I don't
have the album yet and my friends have challenged me to go without getting new
albums until school ends, so I can't get it just yet. Could someone help me?
Email or post, I don't care, just don't tell me to ftp. My system can't do it.

Second, I can't figure out a few lyrics in "I'm A Boy" by the Who. This is what
I've got, with ambiguities pointed out: (and chords for those who want them)
A                 E
One girl's called Jane-Marie
One little girl's called Felicity
Another little girl was Sally Joy
The other was me, and I'm a boy
A                         E
My name is Bill and I'm a head case
They practice making up on my face
I feel lucky if I get trousers to wear
Spend days just taking ======= from my hair. <---------what word is this?
      D          E           A
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, but my mother won't admit it
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, but if I say I am, I get it
A                  E
Get your frock on, Jane-Marie
========= your hair, Felicity <----------what is this? Sounds like "blacken"
Paint your nails, little Sally Joy                       or "flatten" (?)
Put this wig on, little boy
      D          E           A
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, but my mom won't admit it
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, but if I say I am, I get it
A                E
Help me wash up, Jane-Marie
You can't drive, Felicity <------------is this right?
Set this dishes, Sally Joy
But I don't scrub, 'cause I'm a boy
      D          E           A
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, but my mom won't admit it
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, but if I say I am, I get it
A                      E
I want to play cricket on the green
Ride my bike across the street
Cut myself and see my blood
I wanna come home all covered in mud
      D          E           A
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, but my ma won't admit it
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, I'm a boy
I'm a boy, I'm a boy, I'm a boy, I'm a boy
      D
I'm a boy,
      E
I'm a boy,
      A
I'm a boy

Could somebody correct any mistakes I made and help me figure out what words
I can't make out? If somebody could give me hints on the little solo guitar
part in the middle, that would be cool, too.

Marc Hirsh

"I don't swear just for the hell of it. Language is a poor enough means
  of communication. I say we use all of the words we've got."
   ---snappy end-of-file sign-off quote from Inherit The Wind, a really good
         movie (and play)

\ /
 ^  --ugly red source of all email-eating evil
 V
From: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se (Brad Steele)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Just some things I wanted to get off my che
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:08:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: exu.1992Apr7.120800.3655
Reply-To: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article 12199@acsu.buffalo.edu, v077kk6q@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Steven F Candela) writes:
>
>...(Little note: I have heard "Stairway to
>Heaven," which used to be a beautiful song, so many times, it is little more
>to me than a collection of notes signifing one of my friends still has his
>guitar.)

Sounds like "Wayne's World".  I'm sick of that song.

---
Brad Steele
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cliffw@sequent.com
Subject: Re: Fender and CBS
Organization:  Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 17:25:32 GMT

In article <11123@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalker@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>In article <52780@mimsy.umd.edu> larsb@mimsy.umd.edu (Lars Baekgaard) writes:
> >Could somebody please tell me when Fender and CBS were separated? I
> >know that their 'marriage' started in the mid-sixties and that people
> >in general relate this to a decreasing quality although it is hard to
> >date the beginning of the down-period. Also, I would like to know if
> >you guys think that the down-period is over and if it is: when did it
> >stop and had it anything to do with the separation from CBS?
> >
> >thanks - Lars
>
>I don't get it, I purchased a 1975 Stratocaster (new) and have
>been very happy with it for 16+ years. What made the early sixties
>Strats SO much different ??? My Strat has a maple neck, plays very
>tim

The 'CBS' down-period is mostly noticable in the amp area.
Fender did some early transistor amps in the later 60's 
that were .... horrible..

The guitar quality issue doesn't really relate to CBS, but
rather to the huge expansions all American guitar makers
experienced in the late 60's - 70's. Everybody's 
quality took noticeable dips, which helped to launch
the Japanese expansion of the late 70's.....

As far as Fender guitar's....i saw a few mid 70's ones
than were poorly finished, in a manufacturing sense.
A friend of mine bought a brand new Fender P-Bass from
a guy for $200 bucks back in 1979 - the bass was good
*except* for them forgetting to dress the ends of the
fret wire...five minutes work with a file, and the
bass was fine...      
I read an interview with one of the fender old-timers.
He said guitar quality improved after the CBS buy,
because they finally had some operating capital.
He said when Leo owned the company, every bit of
wood got turned into a guitar..under CBS they had
the luxury of throwing bad wood away...
 
> 


-- 
cliffw

'When the going gets wierd, the wierd turn pro'- HST
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ksantosu@descartes.waterloo.edu (Bullwinkle J. Moose)
Subject: Re: 4-track question
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:31:59 GMT

In article <ku11ccINNe66@early-bird.think.com> bhk@snips.dfci.harvard.edu writes:
>I would comapre the Fostex X-28 with the Tascam 424.  The X-26 has only
>6 inputs vs. 8 for the X-28 and the 424. The 424 has variable speeds
>whereas the Fostex gear does not.
>The both have enough knobs and buttons to drive you crazy.
>
>I have an X-28 and I have been very happy with it.

How much did it cost?  And how much do 4-tracks cost in general.  I think
I need one...

Cheers

Kevin

"I'm not being unfair...okay, I am, but who cares?" -- The Wedding Present
From: mpv@ecl.psu.edu (Mike Rivkind)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: note-reading with alternative tunings
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:33:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecl.1992Apr6.233336.3878
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

I recently taught myself "Black Mountainside" by Led Zep.  I learned from a
book that gave the notes and the tuning (DADGAD).  It took some time for me
to figure out the song since I am used to (EADGBE).  

Just curious, has anyone out there in netland learned to note-read (directly)
using an alternative tuning?  Any advice on how to go about it?  I've never
seen a book teach it, but then again I'm not very accomplished.

-- 

Mike Rivkind
mpv@ecl.psu.edu
Graduate Department of Aero Engg
Penn State University

"Quantum mechanics is stranger than science fiction." -- Gary Zukav
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Buying a GOOD guitar.. any suggestions?
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:53:21 GMT
Organization: Ripoff Industries

Well, since you play a lot of different styles you obviously need a
versatile guitar. Hard to beat PRS on that one, IMHO. Really beautiful
guitars. Our bassist has a fretless PRS Signature Model, love it.
And a local player I know still smiles, he got a Signature Model guitar
a year ago. Can't wait to check out the Artist model the local
guitarshopkeeper picked out at NAMM, it should arrive soon.
Yeah, I'm definitely pro-PRS, very balanced mixture of vintage features
with modern twist.

	Pasi
-- 
Pasi Korhonen                                              pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi
Saaristonkatu 3 A 6                                 ar660@cleveland.freenet.edu
90100 Oulu		                                 pkorhone@nyx.cs.du.edu
981-377 811                                                   bronx/OuluBox,IRC
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