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From: julio@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Julio Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Human Rights in Cuba
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:13:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec23.185719.20465@zeus.ieee.org> jbarth@ep.ieee.org writes:

>The US government, for example, denied the Cuban Minister of Public Health 
>an entry visa just last month; he was to have spoken at the American 
>Public Health Association annual conference in Washington, D.C.  After 30 
>years of acrimony on both sides, who can say which side should "blink" first?

    Let's not forget that Cuba is a tiny 'David' in the front
    of Goliath. The fear of USA intervention is real. I lived
    in Chile during the years of Pinochet and the fear of death
    squads was real. If anybody doubts this please rent the movie
    "Missing" with Jack Lemmon.

>
>As I stated, I believe Castro should have left politics years ago.  Any
>ruling class that consists of the self-same group of people year after
>year grows incestuous, loses touch with its roots and early ideals.  
>
      What is the real power of Castro in Cuba? I have seen a video
    on PBS about Cuba and he appeared there. He is very charismatic
    and intense. Also seemed to be revered, what is not good. Still
    I get the impression he could be like the King of Spain.

>	Suppose there had been no revolution in 1959.  Would
>	Cuba's health stats be as good as they are today?  
>
      Even more horrifying, suppose that there is a severe weakening
    of the goverment structure in Cuba. Fascism could easily retake
    control of the Island. We would have another Haiti, or El Salvador.

Julio
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From: rravelo@asturias.acs.uci.edu (Ray Ravelo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Human Rights in Cuba
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:14:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Dec22.182751.21746@zeus.ieee.org> jbarth@ep.ieee.org writes:
>
>
>HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE LEGITIMACY OF A SOCIAL SYSTEM
>
>Further observations on beating up dissidents, life
>expectancy, and other matters.
>
>Both of us condemn violence against dissidents.  But if you wish
>to imply that Cuba is far worse than any other country, I repeat:
>

>
>By the standard of health as a basic human right, Cuba outdoes all
>the rest of Latin America, as well as the US in certain categories. 
>Taking health and the status of women, here are some critical
>indicators from selected countries (the US, two other First World
>countries, and several Central and South American nations.  Sources:
>the World Bank's "World Development Report", UNICEF's "State of the
>World's Children", UNESCO's "Statistical Yearbook," and the World
>Health Organization's "Population and Vital Statistics" reports
>between 1988 and 1991.  (Of course, these statistics are all in the
>past.  Now that the Torricelli bill has become law, it's anyone's
>guess how far Cuba will drop).  
>
 
 Jeremy, I just wonder if you know how all those statistics were obtained
 and who compiled them? All I know is that everytime a UN delegation such as
 the Humans Rights tries to go to Cuba to inspect the situation, Castro's
 government denies them the right to do so.

 Is the United Nations taking Castro's government stats at face value?
 I remember that not too long ago the Soviet Union's stats looked impressive
 too!

 Maybe all my relatives and friends now in Cuba are nothing but cry babies
 since all I hear from them is that there are not even tetanus shots, aspirin,
 etc., but then people on this net say things like Castro is selling vaccines
 of different kinds to countries like Brazil, and medical care in Cuba is the
 best, etc.

 By the same token Castro says his governement has no money to buy food and
 gasoline but he spends $500 million a year buying weapons from Rusia.

 Recently the Madrid, Spain newspaper ABC reported that Castro purchased
 2 submarines, 30 jet fighters, several battleships and other military
 equipment from Rusia with a total tag (to be paid over a 4 year period) of
 2 billion dollars. In the meantime reports from Cuba say that people are
 even eating dogs and cats and the animals in the zoo are also being stolen
 for food. Cats go for as much as 200 cuban pesos!
 
 Also, the Panamanian magazine "Momento" reported that Castro owns a cattle ranch
 named "Lone Star" in that country which supplies beef to the Cuban
 "nomenclature" or party bosses. The beef is transported on the Cuban airline
 (Cubana). The ranch is administered by army lt. cor. Orlando Perez and
 commander Berto Perez Orama, both officers of the Cuban army.
 

 Regards,
--
Ray I. Ravelo                "We're your opposition, Mr. Castro, we 10 million
Office of Academic Computing. Cubans who look around us in terror"
UC, Irvine.                 from the open letter to Castro by M.E. Cruz-Varela
From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Import/Export research
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:20:41 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be interested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the different countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to Latin-America? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in that country about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	that foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerely,


Ron Ables

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From: UPS500@rhrz.uni-bonn.de
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Pilitical Science mailing-list, worldwide?
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:17:47 GMT
Organization: RHRZ Uni-Bonn


 
Hello everyone!
 
Being ralatively new to the Internet, I wonder whether a Mailing List
for students and teachers in Political Science exists, in fact, whether there
IS a certain number of fellow students in that disipline, having Internet-
access.
 
If there is,please contact me to tell me whether there are already Mailing-
Lists in which one can join to discuss politics amongst STUDENTS and TEACHERS
of that discipline and how to join.
 
If there isn't, I find it's high time such a list was created to be able
to exchange views on the ever accelerating "deroulement" of events in the
world today. From what I've seen so far, nothing like it exists up to this
point in time, yet the internationality and the mere speed with which
discussions could take place seem tempting.
 
If you are interested in newly creating such a list, please email me -
ups500@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de - to tell me
 
-> what your preferences of content would be for such a group and
-> whether you'd be ready to help in maintaining such a list.
 
Best wishes for 1993, Markus Schlegel
at RFWU Bonn (Germany)
Seminar fuer Politische Wissenschaft
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ups500@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de
 
Views expressed in my article are strictly private and do not represent
views of any institution at RFWU Bonn (Germany).
From: ez000281@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Human Rights in Cuba
Date: 3 Jan 93 06:53:51 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

Alberto,

Thanks for excluding me again from your kill file.  I will try to respond to thequestion briefly.  Ernst Mandel, a marxist economist has an excelent book on
facism in which he details the political economy of thos states.  His interpretation basically defends the conclusion that Jews in pre-war Germany were the
petite-bourgeoise of that state, and for Hitler it was very easy to turn them
into scapegoats of the ecnomic caos of Germany's depression.  After all the
petite bourgeoise didn't suffer as much as the working class after the collapse
of Weimar, so it was fairly easy to channell the hatred of the masses to the
extent that well to do jews were satanized as the culprits of the depression.
As far as the homlessness and general welfare of the population, it is well
documented that, once the policy of persecution began Jew were rounded up and
taken from their HOMES and then sent to concentration camps.  As far as healt
care, nedless to say that once the war machine was on a roll and Hitler's brand
of socialism was implemented Germany endured a brief economic high, which  
allowed the national socialists to implement social programs which consolidated
their hegemony over the masses.  As far as sources, any history book will
do, and I am sure you are very well documented on this topic.  BTW where did
your family liver BEFORE they were sent to the concentration camps?

Truly Yours,  

Edelmiro
From: nicanet@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Honduran News Update 12/20/92
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:19:00 GMT
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Subject: Honduran News Update 12/20/92
From: nyxfer!nicanet (NicaNet NY)


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            Weekly News Update #151, December 20, 1992


MAYOR MURDERED IN HONDURAS

Dario Urbina, mayor of the northern Honduran town of Yoro, was
shot by unknown assailants on the night of Dec. 17 and died the
following morning. Urbina was known as a defender of the human
rights of indigenous people; in September he had told reporters
that he could identify the killers of Xicaque indigenous leader
Vicente Matute, who was murdered in September of 1991. Xicaque
Tribes Federation secretary general Mauricia Castro told Inter
Press Service that Urbina had accused well-known cattle ranchers
and military officials in the area of masterminding Matute's
assassination, and "that's the reason they murdered him too."
[IPS 12/19/92]
 

HONDURAN BANANA WORKERS STRIKE STANDARD FRUIT

A strike by some 2,000 banana plantation workers employed by the
Standard Fruit Company in Honduras entered its third week on Dec.
16. When negotiations reached an impasse, union leaders and
company representatives called for direct mediation by Honduran
President Rafael Callejas.  By Dec. 16, union and company
representatives had reached tentative agreement on 20 of the 28
labor demands.  But the remaining eight points are the most
difficult to resolve, including one related to employment
guarantees. Standard, a subsidiary of US-based Castle & Cooke,
plans to shut down several plantations where it says the company
is losing money due to low productivity. The unions oppose the
plans, since they include massive employee layoffs.  [LADB
12/18/92 from ACAN-EFE] 

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From: SCIENCE@mitvma.BITNET (MIM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: MIM response to D.G. Trotter
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:17:51 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

If this is not a "propaganda" newsgroup, how come Dinko Gonzalez
Trotter posts a hate message against the Sendero Luminoso without
a single fact or reference?

The difference between what we at MIM do and what would-be
net censors like Trotter do is that we at MIM know both sides of
the story. We digest the capitalist propaganda and often cite it
in our articles and we also hear from the Sendero Luminoso. In
addition, we take the time to think about the overall impact of
each. We believe anyone who looks into this seriously will find that
the regime the Sendero Luminoso is trying to overthrow is the
main cause of massive violence in Peru--and that violence is not
just that claimed in the 25,000 civil war deaths. Send us a message
for further info. science@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Is Edelmiro Salas an idiot? Your vote please.
From: M.Letort@massey.ac.nz (M. Letort)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 03:00:17 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Summary: RE: Voto de censura para Edelmiro
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Edelmiro no es un idiota, lo que si es es prepotente e insolente.  Yo
lei un articulo en el cual califica a los comunistas de "tontos", en
otros articulos se refiere con calificativos despectivos acerca de
paises latinoamericanos.  Cada individuo nace con derecho a tener libre
albedrio, por lo cual toda discusion debe ser acarreada de manera culta
y teniendo en cuenta el derecho de los demas a no escuchar o leer
patanerias.

Yo pido un VOTO DE CENSURA para este individuo. Tenemos derecho a tener
una red latinoamericana libre de insultos y altanerias, donde
discusiones son acarreadas a un nivel digno de nuestra cultura.

Mauricio Letort				"Por buena que sea la cuna,
Massey University			Mejor es la buena crianza"
New Zealand
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: lazaro@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Lazaro Nunez)
Subject: Elecciones en Cuba
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:43:23 GMT

Hola,

Ayer estaba escuchando la "Revista para el Mediterraneo" de Radio Habana Cuba,
la que dedicaron por completo a las "elecciones" a las asambleas municipales
del Poder Popular que se estaban realizando en Cuba (consejales). Pues escuche 
varias cosas interesantes:

-Fidel Castro opina que la intervencion USA-ONU en Somalia es el comienzo de
similares actos de EE.UU. en el continente africano. El conejo llamandole
orejudo al burro. ?Acaso ya olvido Castro sus intervenciones militares en
Angola, Etiopia y Mozambique?

-Castro dice que las elecciones del dia de ayer en Cuba demuestran que Cuba
es un "modelo de la democracia". !Hay que tener cara! Por su parte Radio
Francia Internacional informaba que el 80% de los candidatos eran miembros
del Partido Comunista de Cuba o de la Union de Jovenes Comunistas y que el
resto eran miembros de otras organizaciones titeres del gobierno, como los
Comites de Defenza de la Revolucion. Agrego RFI que ningun miembro de la
oposicion interna fue postulado a candidato, que al contrario, se efectuo
una recogida de opositores en los dias previos a las elecciones. Ya se sabe
entonces por que Elizardo Sanchez recibio la paliza precisamente en estos
dias.

-Castro esta interesado en conocer como Clinton va a resolver la situacion 
economica de los EE.UU. ?Acaso olvido que hay que empezar por casa?

-Castro llego a la conclusion de que la no reeleccion de Bush demuestra que
el cincuenta y pico % de americanos que votaron rechazaron el sistema politico
y electoral de EE.UU. 

-La locutora que leia las noticias cada 30 minutos enfatizaba de que votar
no era una obligacion en Cuba de esta manera: "...no, repito, no son obliga-
torias". Pero en una ocasion olvido decir el "repito" por lo que quedo
"no no son obligatorias". Todos sabemos que [no(no x) = x]. Solo hay que
an~adir que una hora antes del cierre de los comicios el 93 y pico % de aquellos
cubanos con derecho al voto habia asistido a las urnas. Yo recuerdo que en 
similares elecciones cuando yo estaba en Cuba los Comites de Defenza de la 
Revolucion iban de casa en casa recogiendo gente para ir a votar.

-Silvio Rodriguez se metio a politico. Silvio fue postulado como candidato a
la Asamblea Nacional del Poder Popular (parlamento). Dijo que estaba orgulloso
y que encontraria tiempo para ejercer sus nuevas funciones. !Como si para
levantar la mano a favor de todo lo que diga Castro se necesitara tanto tiempo
y esfuerzo! Lo unico interesante que dijo es que votaba porque tenia esperanza
en la profundizacion del proceso democratico en Cuba.

Bueno, !feliz navidad y feliz an~o nuevo a todos!

-- 
| Lazaro Nun~ez Figueiral         ||  !Lloran sobre el Mar de Cuba	     |
| Memorial University of Nfld.    ||  enormes flores bermejas;	             |
| St. John's, Terranova, Canada.  ||  sobre la isla perdida	   	     |
| lazaro@garfield.cs.mun.ca       ||  el aire amarillo tiembla! - F.G. Lorca |
From: aldo@ips-server.Eng.Sun.COM (Aldo Castillo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Diferencias en Ron/Rum
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:37:15 GMT
Organization: can be useful
Distribution: world
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Hablando del cubalibres, en Espan~a tuve la oportunidad de tomar un cubalibre
hecho con un ron cubano que se llamaba "La Negrita".  Mas me acuerdo de la
novedad que era servirse un ron cubano que acerca de la calidad del sosodicho.

Feliz Navidad!

Aldo Castillo
Sun Microsystems
Mountain View, California
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:39 PST
Subject: FMLN Prepares for 94 Elections
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Subject: FMLN Prepares for 94 Elections
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


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From el diario/La Prensa 12/22/92

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el Diario/La Prensa" is 
a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.


FMLN Prepares for 1994 Salvadoran Elections

The Farabundo Marti National Liberation Frunt (FMLN), which became
a recognized political party in El Salvador last week, elected its
highest level representatives on Dec. 21 in preparation for the
1994 elections. Former Commander Shafick Handal is the candidate
with the greatest possibility of being elected by the national
convention to hold the position of General Coordinator. FMLN
leaders also elected the members of the party's National Board,
made up of 50 members. The Democratic Convergance (CD), a
left-wing coalition, had a meeting with its grass-roots membership
on Dec. 20 to design an electroal strategly for 1994. The Popular
Social Christian Movement of Ruben Zamora, the Social Democratic
Party and the formerly communist Democratic Nationalist Union of
Mario Aguinada make up the CD. (edlp 12/22/92 from AFP)
 

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Date: Tuesday, 29 Dec 1992 09:12:36 CST
From:  <U11646@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Peru un Pais en Crisis

    La situacion en Peru esta lejos de ser solucionada. La violencia politica
y las constantes violaciones a los derechos humanos, han sido la nota caracteri
stica en este pais. Desde el comienzo de los a~os 80 cuando el Sendero Luminoso
comenzo la mal llamada "guerra popular", los abusos de parte de movimientos
"revolucionarios' han sembrado el terror, la destruccion y la anarquia en esta
nacion. He visto en los ultimos postings como el MIM (Movimiento Maoista Inter-
cional) insiste en ideas que aparte de ser radicales, son arcaicas y carecen de
toda pragmacidad. Mas todavia, estos se~ores pretenden incorporar un sistema
por medio de una lucha armada que solo traeria mas destruccion y muerte a Peru,
como si esta ultima decada de violencia no haya sido suficiente.
    No pretendo defender ninguna ideologia, pero si abogo por el sentido comun
y por adoptar un sistema que se factible y realizable teniendo en cuenta la
realidad del Peru, no un monton de ideas foraneas sazonadas por el llamado
"pensamiento del presidente Gonzalo" (nada original por lo demas). He tenido
la oportunidad de conversar (notese que no digo dialogar ya con esa gente
eso es casi imposible), con alguno de los miembros del S.L. y mis sospechas
fueron comprobadas, son individuos cerrados en sus ideas, y como decia alguien
anteriormente, solo ven en blanco y negro. Repiten frases aprendidas de memoria
y son una copia fiel de sus camaradas Chinos. Por favor! y todavia hablan de
imperialismo, que pasa con la autodeterminacion, con wel nacionalismo el amor
a la patria y a sus ciudadanos, nadie les ense~o que el odio solo engendra
odio?.
    Una vez mas quisiera agregar que no defiendo a ningun sistema, ya sea este
politico o economico, sino solo apelo al sentido comun, de alguien que desea
ver a Peru prosperar. Finalmente, con respecto a las 25,000 fatalidades, creo
que si sacamos cuentas estariamos 50% y 50% de los dos lados o por lo menos muy
cerca, lo que demuestra que el famoso Sendero Luminoso no ha contribuido a nada
y que hasta hoy continua obscureciendo el camino de los Peruanos.

K.K.
From: wk05038@worldlink.com (Carlos E. Ortiz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Boriken
Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:39:29 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Hello! 

Would anyone here have e-mail information on a newsgroup called "Boriken"? 
Thanks.  

Carlos E. Ortiz 

wk05038@worldlink.com
From: hcrms@usmi03.midland.chevron.com (Mitchell S. Craig)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Colombia,Peru Updates 12/27/92
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:18:13 GMT
Organization: chevron

In article nicanet@nyxfer.UUCP writes:
>
(texto borrado)
>Meanwhile, rebels of the Maoist Peruvian Communist Party (PCP,
>also known as Sendero Luminoso, or Shining Path) exploded car
>bombs on Dec. 26 near the Chinese, Costa Rican and Austrian
>embassies in Lima, causing damage but no injuries, according to
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>police and embassy officials. [NYT 12/27/92 from Reuters]
>
Dos dias despues, vi este:
(29 Dic 92, San Francisco Examiner (Reuters tambien))
LIMA, Peru - Shining Path guerillas set off two powerful car bombs
near the Japanese and Chinese embassies Monday in Lima, *wounding
about two dozen people*.

            Mitchell Craig
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: only neophytes encourage public name calling
Date: 22 Dec 1992 01:47:52 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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	but, I agree, even adding him to one's KILL-file does not assure
	that "one has been annoyed for the last time" by his pressence...

	this is just a variation on the theme, I fear...

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