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From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Anybody got documentation for BASH?
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:09:04 GMT

I've got bash running (at last) but I sure wish I knew
what I'm doing.  E-mail appreciated.

Norman Miller
nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: paries@b8.b8.ingr.com (Randy Paries)
Subject: Help With the status line
Keywords: emacs status line
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:22:35 GMT

I am looking for some help on setting up.   

on the bottom of my screen at present I display 
- buffer
- time
- Mode
- percentage of file ...

My question is how can I display ( or can I ) the current 
row or column. 

Also what ever options can I display in that mode field.

thanks for any help....

Randy Paries
randy@turq.b8.ingr.com


Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: jerry@math.ep.utexas.EDU (Jerry)
Subject: Re: help on binding a function
Organization: Department of Mathematical Sciences--University of Texas at El Paso
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:47:53 GMT

elton huang on November 20 wrote:
-> I want to bind
-> 
-> switch to Buffer: *Buffer List*
-> 
-> to a key. Does anyone has a quick answer ?
-> I will appreciate. E-mail please.

Keyboard macros should help. Try:

  C-x ( C-x b *Buffer List* RET C-x )

followed by

  M-x name-last-kbd-macro RET switch-to-buffer-list RET
  M-x global-set-key RET M-o switch-to-buffer-list RET
  C-x C-f ~/.emacs RET M->
  C-u M-x insert-kbd-macro RET switch-to-buffer-list RET C-x C-s C-x k RET

which should bind M-o to do just what you asked.


Enjoy.  -Jerry

To find out about macros do:

  C-h i m Emacs RET m Keyboard Macros RET
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: jjo619@thor.albany.edu (John O'neill)
Subject: auto loading of mode for different file extensions
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 01:21:11 GMT

How do you force emacs to autoload a major (or minor) mode for a given
file extension.  My proglem is that I edit fortran files that use .F
as the extension (then goes through a preprocessor) and I want fortran-mode.
Thanks in advance,
John O'Neill
From: josch@ws06.pc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schnitter)
Subject: Re: emacs 18.59  autosave and vm-reply
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:02:12 GMT
Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt, D-6100 Darmstadt

In article <1992Nov4.145517.23887@cs.cornell.edu> raman@cs.cornell.edu (T. V. Raman) writes:

>   I use: vm 5.31 Hyperbole 3.04 and since yesterday emacs 18.59

>   Under emacs 18.59 when replying from vm, I periodically get the error
>   message from autosave which is apparently trying to autosave the reply
>   and failing.

There is another problem I encountered with v. 18.59 that might be related
with the above (I am using Interactive's ISC 2.2.1 and have built emacs
without X support):

When I delete  a larger chunk of text from a file/text/buffer a couple
of keystrokes later  something  like "Buffer has shrunken a  lot.  Not
autosaving it..."  is displayed.

!!! Then EMACS waits forever (for Godot, I suppose) !!!

Anyone out there who knows how to make Godot come (well, I know that this
could be misunderstood) i.e. make EMACS continue its job?

Joachim

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: lynn@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Lynn D. Newton)
Subject: cycling window positions
Reply-To: lynn@phx.mcd.mot.com
Organization: Motorola MCG, Urbana Design Center
Distribution: gnu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:22:56 GMT


Has anybody out there already written a function that is able to cycle
the position of windows in the following way? I'll use 3 windows for
example. I have:

	buffer A says blah blah in this window

        -------- 

	buffer B says foo foo in this window

	--------

	buffer C says bar bar in this window


Call the magic function and I have

	buffer B says foo foo in this window

	--------

	buffer C says bar bar in this window
	
        -------- 

	buffer A says blah blah in this window

And so forth, so that the contents of the second window is now in the
top window, the third is now second, and the top is shoved down to the
bottom. I'd like this to be able to work however many windows I've
got. Of course I'd also like to be a numeric argument, including
negative, to be able to cycle some number of positions.

Lynn
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,gnu.emacs.sources
From: bill@macro.viewlogic.com (Bill Crooke)
Subject: Demacs question
Originator: bill@macro
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 03:03:33 GMT



  I have just installed demacs 1.20 and when I run it  I get the following
  error message:

  CPU must be in real mode (not V*^ mode) to run this program.

  Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

   Thanks, Bill C.
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   bcrooke@viewlogic.com
   Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
   293 Boston Post Rd West
   Marlboro, MA 01752-4615
   508-480-0881 Ext 421
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: lux@sol.UVic.CA (Michael O'Henly)
Subject: Changing default tab stop in Text mode
Organization: University of Victoria
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:19:41 GMT

    I want to modify the _default_ value for tab-stop-list from an
interval of 8,16,24,... to 4,8,12,... 

    I know this can be done interactively using M-x edit-tab-stops,
but I'd prefer to actually change the default.

    Can you please tell me how to go about this? I think I should be
specifying a default value in my .emacs file, but the syntax escapes
me.

    Thanks.

    Michael
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: msanghvi@cs.ulowell.edu (Mehul Sanghvi)
Subject: help with C-mode variables
Reply-To: msanghvi@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: UMass-Lowell Comp. Sci. Dept.
Distribution: gnu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:41:55 GMT


hello folks!!

   i needed some help with the indenting in C-mode of emacs. this will
probably turn out to be simple, but for some reason i have not been able to
figure it out.

here's my problem:

STYLE I WANT                        STYLE I GET

void					void
foo( int bar )				  foo( int bar )
{					{
  .....					  .....
  .....					  .....
  .....					  .....

}					}

what i want is for foo( .... ) to start in column 0 not get indented 2
spaces. this happens as soon as i hit the "{" left-curly-brace key. what
changes do i need to make to my settings ( given below ) to get the result i
want. pls reply by email as i dont read thhis group often enuf

;; C-mode variables
(setq c-argdecl-indent 0)            ;; old file had 5
(setq c-auto-newline t)
;(setq c-brace-imaginary-offset 0)   ;; old file had this uncommented
(setq c-brace-offset -2)             ;; old file had 2
;(setq c-continued-brace-offset 0)   ;; old file had it uncommented
(setq c-continued-statement-offset 2) 
(setq c-indent-level 2)
(setq c-label-offset -2)
(setq c-tab-always-indent t)


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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: epalmer@cajun1.watson.ibm.com (Elaine Palmer)
Subject:  superuser within shell	
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:17:36 GMT
Reply-To: epalmer@cajun1.watson.ibm.com (Elaine Palmer)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
Keywords:  shell su superuser 


I just installed a new release of mach 3.0, and when I did, I could no
longer do 'su' from the gnuemacs shell.  It never gives me a chance
to type in my password.  It simply says 'Stopped (tty output)'.  
Of course, it doesn't let me become superuser.  I have no trouble
'su'ing outside of gnuemacs.  Before I upgraded the operating system,
I had no trouble 'su'ing from within the gnuemacs shell. 

Occasionally, (and I don't know what I do differently to cause this), 
I get as far as 'Password:', but it never gives me a chance to type anything
in.  It immediately says 'Sorry'.

I've looked at my /etc/termcap, /etc/ttys, .stty, .bindings, .emacs,
and I just don't know what else to examine.  A colleague of mine has
no trouble with the same release of mach, so it must be some file I 
have that is messed up.  I just don't know what files to look at and 
what to look for.


Elaine R. Palmer ( epalmer@watson.ibm.com )
Distributed Security Systems     (914) 784-6642  tie 863/6642
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center   P.O.Box 704       Yorktown Heights,
NY  10598
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.text.tex
From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Re: spell check and grammar check : emacs / LATeX
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:25:54 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.help

>>>>> legrady@cs.dal.ca (Tom Legrady) (TL) writes:

TL> I am looking for a spell checker that runs under emacs and 
TL> operates sensibly. I'm tired of spell-buffer asking me to 
TL> correct a 'mispelled' word without showing me the context.
TL> Since I work in LaTeX, the situation is agravated by all 
TL> those \commands.

Use ispell.
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
From: mazumdar@mary.cs.fredonia.edu (Jin Mazumdar)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Keeping zero length mail spool files
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:29:47 GMT
Organization: Math / CS, State Univ. of N. Y. College at Fredonia
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	Is there a set up for Emacs to  keep zero length files  in the
spool directory after mail has been read via rm.


--
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(internet:) mazumdar@mary.cs.fredonia.edu

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  >>> State University of New York College at Fredonia <<<    
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From: theobald@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Allen M. Theobald)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re-compiling on a Stratus
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:07:02 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Hello everyone!

Does anyone out there know what machine type and system type to use 
in the config.h to compile emacs 18.58.1 on a Stratus R5 XA/R 
Model 0 i860XR running FTX 2.1.0 (Stratus' version of UNIX SYS 5)?

Please e-mail me directly.  If there is enough interest I will
post the answer.


						Thanks,

						Allen
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: kpc@pluto.arc.nasa.gov (k p c)
Subject: memory exhausted
Reply-To: kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center AI Research Branch; Sterling.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:50:50 GMT

frequently i get a "Memory Exhausted" message, after which most
commands, including ^X^C and sometimes ^Z, are useless.  this occurs
when editing large files or uncompressing files as small as 2.5MB,
even when no other processes are running (although it is worse when
other processes are running).

the configuration is gnu emacs 18.58 with allegro extensions on a
sparc 2 with 40MB physical memory. 

can emacs be fixed to have it be useful when this happens?  do emacs
19 or lucid emacs provide a solution?  (does lemacs work on ascii
terminals yet?)  would increasing swap help?

thanks.  could you please respond by email if you can?  i don't read
these newsgroups.
Xref: sparky gnu.emacs.help:4886 comp.unix.sysv386:16660
From: hb@imsor.dth.dk (Henrik Bechmann)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: emacs18.58 & SCO ODT/1.1 X11R3
Keywords: emacs, X11, SCO
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:11:56 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

Hi,

I have installed emacs 18.58 on a 486 running SCO ODT 1.1 (SVR3.2 and
X11R3). I compiled emacs with gcc 2.2.2 
(make CC='gcc -traditional -O' install.sysv), - I did change the 
'LIBX = -lX11 -lsnl_s' line to 'LIBX = -lX11 -lsocket -lsnl_s' in
src/xmakefile.

My problem is that I'm only able to run emacs once under X! Second
time I try to start emacs, I get the following warnings:

Warning: Client build for newer server!
Warning: Protocol rev. of client does not match server!

I have to compile emacs again or to boot the machine to be able to run
emacs one more time under X!

Does anybody know what I did wrong???

Help will be very much appreciated!

Henrik.
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: howdyp@sco.COM (Howdy Pierce)
Subject: Re: why emacsclient?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:16:38 GMT


Trey Harris (harris@gallium.cs.unc.edu) writes:
>Anyway, when I start emacs the first time, I see the following lines
>one by one in the minibuffer:
>
>Loading ispell.elc...done
>Loading server...done
>Server subprocess exited
>
>I suspect that that last line, "Server subprocess exited," is
>symptomatic of whatever is occurring here.  The server shouldn't be
>exiting if it needs to be used...or should it?  I don't know enough
>about the internal workings of emacsclient to know.

I had a similar problem.  You need to make sure that the variable
"server-process" points at the right server executable.  I think it
should equal:
		  <emacs-root-directory>/etc/server

The error message is a little misleading, since it implies the process
is getting started and then exiting.  That's not necessarily the case.

--Howdy Pierce
  howdyp@sco.com

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: emclean@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Emmett McLean)
Subject: Help with nowrap and left-scrolling buffers
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: W
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:56:41 GMT

  What instruction do I use to turn of automatic wrap ? To be
  more specific, in my sessions long lines end with a "/" and
  continue to the next line. I would prefer not to see continued
  long lines unless I execute  "C-x <".

  Also, is there an instruction similar to "C-x <" which  might
  allow me to set the mark and, instead of left-scrolling
  the current buffer to the left ( like "C-x <") , instead
  left-scrolls the portion of the buffer to the left of the mark? 

  Thanks,

  Emmett emclean@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
From: tcking@uswnvg.com (Tim King)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: **WANTED Latest version of GNU emac**
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:18:45 GMT
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Mikail Shams (mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: 
: 	I am running SunOS 4.0.3 on a Sun4.  Currently I have 18.53 running.
: I was wondering if someone can tell me where I can download the latest
: version of Gnu emacs compatible to my system.  Any help will be appreciated.
: Please send me email.  Thank you.
: 
: Mikail Shams
: mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov
: ADNET Systems Inc.
: 930.6 GSFC/NASA
: Greenbelt, MD 20771

Could you please CC me too?

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From: bryce_jasmer@next.com (Bryce Jasmer)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Remote File Editing Without NFS?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:57:34 GMT

Is there any way to edit a file on a remote system? Maybe by using rcp to  
grab the file, edit it locally, rsh to make sure the remote version hasn't  
changed since you grabbed it, and then rcp it back?

Has something like this been written? Would it be easy to write? (Any  
volunteers?)

Please respond by email.

Thanks,
Bryce
From: klemme@uni-paderborn.de (Michael Klemme)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: OCCAM mode for EMACS?
Date: 22 Nov 1992 16:03:57 GMT
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: klee.uni-paderborn.de
Keywords: occam emacs

Hello EMACS experts!

I would like to use EMACS for editing OCCAM source files.

Since the OCCAM syntax is a lot different from all other
programming languages I have seen so far I would appreciate
a special OCCAM mode for EMACS that supports the "special effects"
of OCCAM like indentation (perhaps folders).

Has anybody seen something like that?
A friend told me that he had seen something like that here in the
news (gnu.emacs.*).

Thanks

	Michael Klemme

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: vlee@vis.toronto.edu (Victor Yuencheng Lee)
Subject: About this ispell thing.. (sigh!..)
Summary: ispell
Keywords: ispell
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:34:08 GMT

About this ispell:

It works quite nice, but it really occupies too much space, even more
than the space needed by emacs and what is worse, it won't release until
I "kill-emacs-and-exit".

Does any emacs genius on the net know how we could release the memory
ispell occupied after the spell checking is done? I mean, "terminate"
ispell by giving a comand in emacs.

Our system manager always ask me to kill my "sleeping ispell". :(
It's like a pain on the neck to use "kill -9 ????" every time...

Thanks for your time.

--vlee
From: kodiak@scout.ksu.ksu.edu (Bryan D. Nehl)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: Help With the status line
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:44:27 -0600
Organization: Feed the Bears Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: scout.ksu.ksu.edu
Keywords: emacs status line

In <1992Nov18.212235.23653@b8.b8.ingr.com> paries@b8.b8.ingr.com (Randy Paries) writes:

>My question is how can I display ( or can I ) the current 
>row or column. 
>randy@turq.b8.ingr.com

Before a million and a half people go off telling you to see the faq
and that it can't be done I will email you the elisp code to do it.

Bryan.

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: rms@hoggle2.UUCP (Richard Stallman)
Subject: Help With the status line
Reply-To: rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:24:12 GMT

This might seem unrelated to your request for help,
but it is related.

I've learned that Intergraph is claiming to have copyright
on all the interfaces and even the file formats used
in their operating system.  This is a uniquely nasty behavior
for any computer company.

Assuming that you're asking for help so you can do your
work for Intergraph, it seems that the community is being abused:
Intergraph is (thru you) asking us for cooperation with one hand
while the other hand is readying the knife.  It seems that poeple
should think twice about how to respond.

I suggest you think about Intergraph's policy, and raise it as
an ethical issue with your fellow employees.

The management will quite likely tell you to shut up and leave ethical
questions to them (so they can file them in the bit bucket and do
whatever seems profitable); if they do, you will need to refuse,
pointing out that considering the ethics of a collective activity such
as a business is the responsibility of everyone participating in it.

You (and other readers) can get more information about this kind of
issue by contacting lpf@uunet.uu.net or ftp'ing information from
ftp.uu.net (sorry, I don't remember the directory, but it's
named lpf and is just one or two levels down the tree).
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: mvjrs@mviae.ATT.COM (Rick Sladkey)
Subject: Re: cycling window positions
Originator: news@cbnewsb.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T Network Systems
Distribution: gnu
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:09:06 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:22:56 GMT, lynn@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Lynn
>>>>> D. Newton) said:


Lynn> Has anybody out there already written a function that is able to
Lynn> cycle the position of windows in the following way? I'll use 3
Lynn> windows for example. I have:

I've wanted that before so I just wrote one.  Here it is.
-----
;;; rotbuf.el - rotate buffers in windows - rick sladkey

;; example .emacs usage:
;;
;; (global-set-key "\C-c\C-r" 'rotate-window-buffers)
;; (autoload 'rotate-window-buffers "rotbuf" "Rotate buffers in windows." t)

(defun window-buffer-lists ()
  (let* ((first-window (selected-window))
	 (window (next-window first-window 'no-minibuf))
	 (win-list (list first-window))
	 (buf-list (list (window-buffer first-window))))
    (while (not (eq window first-window))
      (setq win-list (cons window win-list))
      (setq buf-list (cons (window-buffer window) buf-list))
      (setq window (next-window window 'no-minibuf)))
    (cons (nreverse win-list) (nreverse buf-list))))

(defun rotate-window-buffers (n)
  "Rotate visible buffers within their respective windows.
With an argument, rotate them through ARG windows."
  (interactive "p")
  (let* ((lists (window-buffer-lists))
	 (win-list (car lists))
	 (buf-list (cdr lists))
	 (length (length win-list)))
    (setq n (mod (+ (mod n length) length) length))
    (if (= n 0)
	(message "Thanks, but no thanks.")
      (let* ((last (nthcdr (1- n) buf-list))
	     (rest (cdr last)))
	(setcdr last nil)
	(setq buf-list (nconc rest buf-list)))
      (while win-list
	(set-window-buffer (car win-list) (car buf-list))
	(setq win-list (cdr win-list))
	(setq buf-list (cdr buf-list))))))


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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: k202047@galilei.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (H.Thiemann)
Subject: Locate long lines
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Distribution: dkrz
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:24:02 GMT


Hi folks,

How do I locate a line longer than n Characters?

---
eom