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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Which wordprocessor?
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:22:08 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan24.164320.12564@ousrvr.oulu.fi> ojtv@zombie.oulu.fi (Olli Vuolteenaho) writes:
>I would like to hear opinnions about the word processor of choice for OS/2.
>My problem is this: I've been using Word for Windows 2.0 and Word 5.5 for
>DOS but, since Microsoft has (or has it?) decided that it won't support
>OS/2, I have to switch to another program. I wouldn't like to get stuck in
>a dead end (to paraphrase BG). I know a few other people who are in the
>same position - even people who are not themselves using OS/2 seem to feel
>that they would rather use an "universal" word processor instead of one
>which is, by choice, not supporting one of the major platforms. This is
>really sad because generally I have liked the WORDs.
>At first glance WP 5.2 for windows didn't seem to be very hot for an OS/2
>user. Describe might be a good one but their marketing strategy does
>not appeal to me (they don't offer a competetive upgrade, but instead
>graciously invite me to evaluate Describe 4.0 for $400 (!) (and this is
>educational institute pricing). Ami pro might be good but I haven't got
>any personal experience with it.
>So netters, where to go word processor-wise? (for writing biomedical
>scientific papers, correspondence etc.).

Leaving aside your reasoning, I think AmiPro from Lotus, once
available, is going to be worth considering.

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From: shan@ms.uky.edu (Minghua SHAN)
Subject: Environment Variable with "="s (Was: Re: tex previewers)
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:32:11 GMT

In article <1k8uijINNd38@tamsun.tamu.edu> bdubbs@cs.tamu.edu (Bruce Dubbs) writes:
>
>Set an envronment variable:
>SET DVISCR= /oa=14 /ocr=1 /s=4
>
>or alternatively put the switches on the command line.
>

But how does one set such an environment variable?
OS/2 does not like those "="s.

Minghua Shan
From: ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: R.F.C. on Service Pack
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:09:03 GMT
Organization: PGP VER2 Key Available Upon Request

I am having a non-show stoping problem with V2.0 GA and I was told
by an ibm rep that the service pack would solve the particular
problem I was having. However I have heard that various people have
actually experienced increased problems of a wide variety after
installing the service pack. My concern is that I can NOT afford any
down time at the moment. I just don't have the time to deal with
problems and the system set up as it now stands does function
properly. I wrote of my concerns to IBM which, of course, said that
the service pack was the best thing since sliced bread and they gave
me their word that it would work. Well there not the ones who will
be in trouble if it doesn't. As such, I am looking for input from
people who have used the service pack regarding any problems they
may have enountered and if they believe that installing it, since I
do not have a major problem just a minor annoyance, is worth the
effort.

Thank you for your time and attention,
				The Jester
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	The Jester -PGP VER2 Key on Request
Why all Politicians should be like Ross Perot:
"Hes too short to be seen, to rich to be bribed, and will quit
before he does any real damage"-Jay Leno
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From: manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 24 Jan 93 06:55:46 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA

>>Who says no other software companies give free upgrades.
>>
>>I bought Turbo Pascal 6, and just a little while later 7 was released.  I
>>called Borland and got a free upgrade, to BORLAND pascal 7 with everything.
>>
>>I thought that was VERY fair.  Personally I'd have been happy with TP7, but
>>hey...they let me have BP7.

Well, my experience with Borland was not quite so happy.

I too had TP6.0 purchased shortly before the new release, and I
called up Borland to obtain the free upgrade to version 7.
Unfortunately, I never got mine despite many calls.

I was quite disappointed.

I thought for sure that they would not pose any problems.
My experience in the past was good, so I was truly surprised when they
did not follow through. Perhaps as Borland matures, they are taking
on the ways of Microsoft and others, and forgetting wence they came
from.

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	Henry Manaster          *     EMail: manaster@yu1.yu.edu
	Brooklyn, NY            *
                                *
	Disclaimer: The above is not necessarily MY opinion nor that 
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: 2.1b can't create DOS environment
Keywords: OS/2 2.1 Beta
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:25:07 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <6551@balrog.ctron.com> mikec@cardinals.ctron.com () writes:
>Has anyone seen this with OS/2 2.1 Beta:
>Upon boot up, the message:
>	SYS1200:  The system cannot create the DOS environment.  The error
>		  code is 0002.
>Basically, something is looking for a file somewhere and it can't find it.
>I have no idea what's missing.  I have compared my directory trees between
>2.1b and GA and have found no *major* differences. I have also installed
>2.1b on three different machines and got this same error message.
>How can one run WINOS231 without at DOS environment?

Are you installing OS/2 2.1 beta over an existing version of OS/2?  It
is not recommended -- do reformat and reinstall.

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From: unruh@physics.ubc.ca (William Unruh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 22 Jan 1993 04:49:33 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.ubc.ca

slhpv@cc.usu.edu writes:


>	Package 2 = All windows 3.1 support if you stick the windows 3.1
>		    installation disk in the drive when prompted
>		    User pays IBM price (MS already got their money)

Future IBM plans I believe. Does anyone know if it is possible to run
Windows under an OS2 Dos ?- Just tried, objects to "another protected
mode program running. Tried win /3 and it simply crashed with no error
message. But ctrl-Esc brought me back to the desktop.
How are IBM going to run Windows (future plans) under OS2 without the
protection schemes fighting?
From: djn@ukc.ac.uk (D.J.Neades)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: MathCad anyone?
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:55:03 GMT
Reply-To: djn@ukc.ac.uk (D.J.Neades)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <21836@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez003045@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (James E. Lee) writes:
>Anyone know of any more powerful process killer than killem, kill, or PSPM2?

The problem is not the process killers, but the system calls that they use.
DosKillProcess(), which I imagine they all use, is just not very powerful.
In fact, OS/2's process handling system calls are very weak. I hope
that eventually they will be improved (maybe for 2.2? who knows?).

If you're interested, I've just finished writing a graphical process
display/selective kill program. It's called PMps (not to be confused
with pspm2). At present it's sitting on hobbes in /pub/uploads/pmps.zip.

>jel

--
Daniel J Neades         3rd year computer science undergraduate
                        University of Kent at Canterbury, England
From: hmkirchh@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Borland C++ 3.1: How to make it work under OS/2?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:27:35 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

gaw2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gang Wu) writes:


>I have OS/2 2.1 beta installed on my 486-33 machine. I was trying to install
>Borland C++ 3.1 without the Window support. The installation was fine. But
>somehow the BC.EXE just doesn't work. Can someone who has been successfully
>using Borland C++ under OS/2 give me some hints? Thanks in advance,

Well, I just love these kind of problem reports. You'll have to admit, that
"somehow the BC.EXE just doesn't work" is not a very precise description of
your problem, eh?? ;-)
I assume, you get a lot of junk on the screen instead of the proper bc desktop.
Solution for this is to turn on DOS_DPMI support (instead of auto) in the
DOS settings of bc.exe. And, if this was the cause for your problem (and even
if it was not) please DO read the README file. (On the other hand, the README
of OS/2 2.1 beta doesn't mention Borland, now does it?? Hm..)

-Hajo
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From: tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Norton Commander/2 for $49.00 for everyone
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:23 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

 I don't who else got the flyer from Symantec but they are currently
running a special on Norton Commander for OS/2 for $49.00. This offer
is good until March 1, 1993. To order you just have to call 1-800-343-4714
24 hours a day/ 7 days a week.  It looks pretty good from their ad.


Tony Frey
TCF9033@venus.tamu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Subject: Re: Stacker for OS/2....March?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:20:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Atlanta GA

In article <s_fuller.727636320@vincent2.iastate.edu>, s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller) writes:
> In <C16HHK.7DI@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler) writes:
> 
> >Stacker will only create virtual FAT drives in FAT partitions.
> 
> Is it just me, or does the hinting going around that Stacker for
> OS/2 won't support HPFS make it completely bogus for most
> people??? Sounds more like a compatibility upgrade to than
> anything. I have a 212 Meg drive and I would like to get some
> more space available on it, but I'm NOT about to go back to FAT
> just to gain a 100 meg of drive space....

Speculation follows:

As I mentioned before, the VP who gave the talk in Boston seemed very surprised at the
number of people using HPFS, especially those using it exclusively. Another factor that he
mentioned that I did not get to follow up on was that although the compressed drive appears
as a normal FAT drive to the system, internally, they apparently allocate unused space to 
other files. For instance, if a file only uses part of an 8K block (because of size, compression,
etc.), then the rest can be used for other files (I believe that internally, everything is in
2K chunks). This would, in my mind, make it harder to port to HPFS. I would like to
think that the feedback has some effect soon, but in the meantime, those of us who still
use FAT drives will at least not have to boot back to DOS to get access to them.

simon
From: friesend@jester.usask.ca (Darryl Friesen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Wordperfect 5.2 for OS/2 (Update)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 03:47:07 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

BRIAN PAUL VAN LIEU (lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu) wrote:
> >I can't whether or not 5.2 for OS/2 will be released or not, but WP5.2
> >for DOS is already here (our User Support & Training guys picked it up
>    ^^^^^^
>         Not to nit-pick, but don't you mean 5.2 for Windows, a mere major bug
>         fix plus a Grammer Checker that they did not write?

Yep.  That's what I meant.  Sorry about the confusion.


------------------------------------------------------------
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friesenda@sask.usask.ca   | University of Saskatchewan
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"In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit."

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From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.text.tex
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: TeX Menu Enhancements for IBM EPM 5.51 Editor
Date: 23 Jan 1993 09:07:59 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I have just released a macro package for IBM's enhanced editor EPM
V5.51 for OS/2 that adds a TeX pull down menu to the editor menu bar.

From within EPM, a TeX document can be TeX'd, previewed, and printed.
The various commands are threaded so you can keep editing during TeX
compilation, printing, etc.

Because the package is written in the editors E language, you will
need to get the full(and free) IBM EPM 5.51 package with ETPM compiler
to add these enhancements.  Instructions are included in the package
for this.

The package can be found on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in /pub/uploads (for now)
in the file epmtex.zip.  Its ultimate resting place should be
/pub/os2/2.0/editors.

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
From: Ed.June@iphase.fidonet.org (Ed June)
Sender: FredGate@iphase.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Updates break apps, why?
Date: 21 Jan 93  13:19:29 EST

On <Jan 19 22:40>, Bruce Kitchin of 1:112/28 wrote to All:

 BK> From: kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin)
 BK> Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps 
 BK> Subject: Re: DCF/2 When?
 BK> Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
 BK> Date: 19 Jan 1993 22:40:55 GMT


 BK> I just a call from the President of the company who apologized for
 BK> the card being charged and said he would 'uncharge' it.  He 
 BK> explained that the delay was so that it would be certified for 
 BK> OS/2 2.1. I certainly feel better after talking to him.


What is it that the updates, SP, 2.1, are 'breaking'?
Are we expected to upgrade all our disk utils everytime an OS update is made too?



   Ed June

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From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: News on 2.1 Release
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:32:52 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <hatton.727578160@cgl.ucsf.edu> hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:
>>
>>Certainly compared to whatever I paid for DOS5 to be bundled with the
>>system, then the additional for Windows, estimated total $100, I think OS2
>>has been extremely good value. Complaining about an additional charge for
>>the final 2.1 release seems churlish, especially if it is going towards
>>the MS coffers.

>Exactly the opposite, my friend.  Forgive me if I'm understanding
>"churlish" with a reversed meaning, but I wouldn't really care (much)
>if IBM needed funds to keep OS/2 going and decided to charge for the
>upgrade.  But Microsoft, who has actively chosen to block OS/2
>whenever possible should not get a single penny off of it's sales.
>It's completely unethical, and should be illegal, for a company to
>make a profit off of a product they're trying to destroy.  I object to
>"paying the enemy" more than the actual dollar amount.

>To put it another way, if IBM decided they couldn't afford free
>upgrades and wanted to charge $50, I'd grumble, but I'd understand and
>agree with them.  But if Microsoft wants even $1 for it, I'd complain
>bitterly.  And I am.

Sorry, I didn't make it explicit enough - I meant churlish to complain 
to, or about, IBM. We agree, we agree :-)
-- 
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-8693
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From: toddy@uni-paderborn.de (Thomas Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: OS/2 2.0 and Novell
Date: 26 Jan 1993 13:57:24 GMT
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: formentera.uni-paderborn.de

Hi !

I am working on a paper about OS/2 2.0 and Novell Netware !

I am using the Requester for 2.0 !


What are the following processes or files doing ?

DDAEMON.EXE, HARDERR.EXE, NBDAEMON.EXE, SPDAEMON, NW-CALLS, NWIFS, NETX !


Please answer immediatly via elm to toddy@uni-paderborn.de, because i have 
to finish my paper on 29.01.1993

     Thanks
            Tom
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: GASP, I need undelete utility urgently!
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:23:29 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan22.023315.14304@alf.pec.co.nz> joergs@alf.pec.co.nz (Joerg Steinke) writes:
>>Help, I've foolishly deleted a file from my HPFS disk and i can't get it back.
>>I searched hobbes for an undelete utility and found phoenix...which crashes
>>when attempting to undelete my missing file.  Can anyone point me to an 
>>undelete utility!
>sorry - couldn't find one either ... but
>advice 1 :
>stay well away from gamatech if you do not want to reformat your hard disk

Can you elaborate?  I find the GammaTech Utilities to be quite good.

>advice 2 :
>include 'SET UNDEL=....' into your config.sys to avoid future problems

This will not work on the current 2.1 beta, it should be noted.

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From: tadr@doe.carleton.ca (Tom A. D. Riley)
Subject: Re: MathCad anyone?
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:37:15 GMT

In <727668058.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP> William.Todd@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (William Todd) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>|TL> 2) will in run in winos2 o.k.                                          |
>|TL>                                                                        |
>+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

>It is a Windows 3.1 program. Needs 2.1


Maybe you can convince them to let you have a copy of mathcad 3.0 it runs 
fine under os2 2.0. (Glad I never gave in to their requests to "upgrade" :)

I like the program very much. Think of it as the best calculator money can buy.

No Sig.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.lang.pascal
From: jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Subject: News on 2.1 Release with TurboVision
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:57:45 GMT

For those people with the annoying TurboVision under Os/2 bug that causes
the DOS session to crash when running a TurboVision program from the editor
you may like to know this is FIXED in the 2.1 release, also, you can run
DOS programs from the Windows editor.

-- 
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  I'm Losin' myself with Body, Mind and Soul with Deborah Ann Gibson in 1993!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.text.tex
From: hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson)
Subject: Re: problem with OS/2 dvips
Organization: Auburn University, Alabama
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:51:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.202547.19593@husc3.harvard.edu> gouvea@zariski.harvard.edu (Fernando Gouvea) writes:
>I have a problem with automatic font generation with the OS/2 version of
>DVIPS. It seems that the program issues a MAKETEXPK command to generate the
>fonts, and (since I'm using this on a FAT drive) doesn't find the
>maketexp.cmd batch file. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

My file is called maketexp.cmd. I'm using Sinha's port of dvips 5.490,
available on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/2.0/unix/tex/.

--darrel
From: cbell@cabell.vcu.edu (Charles A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Wordperfect 4 Win 5.1 dies....
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:10:23 GMT
Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University


Hey gang,
   I've got a strange problem with WordPerfect 4 Win 5.1.  I have
been happily using my WP4WIN for most of a year now under OS/2 2.0.
In the past month I have loaded the Service Pack and had no problems.
 Well, now I get a message:

"WPWINFIL has caused an error in WIN-OS2/*"
 
Whenever I try to run WP4WIN.  I thought maybe I had done something
weird, so I deleted WP4WIN, re-installed and ran FIXWP. Re-migrated
WP and then tried to run it: same error.  Huh?  What has changed in
my system to cause such an error.  Surely nothing to do with WP4WIN.
Any help/questions/suggestions/insults/whatever I'll take anything to
get this to work!!!

cbell@cabell.vcu.edu
Richmond, VA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: smithgr@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Gregory P. Smith)
Subject: All who think they deserve free upgrades...
Keywords: OS/2 upgrade
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:41:29 GMT

For all of you who think that we should get free upgrades to OS/2 2.1 or any
new version, think of it this way.  If we all get our upgrades for free IBM
will just be hurting more than their current 5+ BILLION debt and we may never
see another version of OS/2.
From: ggr@cislabs.pitt.edu (Guillermo G Romero)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 Chess
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:51:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

duchow@galaxy.ucr.edu (John Duchowski) writes:
>
>          Is there a way to make it play at a higher level ?
>

How about just eliminating illegal moves?  In certain positions chess
moves pawns DIAGONALLY (like in a capture move, although there is 
nothing to be acptured in the corresponding position!!).

Even at the most advanced level the program just isn't very good.

Guillermo
ggr+@pitt.edu