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>(Lorin Rowe) 
>I have been trying for some time to get my thief (with go mapping skills)
>to be able to use my mapping kit?  Any ideas would be appreciated.

From the ADVENTURE screen, select the use icon, your thief for who?, 
the mapping kit from his inventory and use.

>Also what name is the guy want who keeps saying who sent you ? and then 
>throws us out.

Say what you are looking for, not the name of who sent you.

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
	     HP CPCD   dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: am66@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alexander Maldutis)
Subject: Re: Ultima Underworld walkthru: plain text file anywhere?
Reply-To: am66@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alexander Maldutis)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:29:15 GMT

I just caught the tail end of this thread.  Where can the walkthrough be found?
Also, where are the patches and other assorted proglets for this game.  I'm 
planning to get into it after Christmas.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

***LeX the InFinitely UnDefined (Compiler of the Dictionary of the UnDefined)**
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From: goo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Michael Goo)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:02:12 GMT
Subject: Re: DUNGEON MASTER (has anybody played it?)
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

mdjhelp@zeus.tamu.edu (JENKINS, MICHAEL DANIEL) writes...

>i recently got this promising looking game called DUNGEON MASTER which looks
>and plays very similarly to WIZARDY 6.  (note: if you played w6 and really 
>liked it but was disappointed in how short the game really was, so far this
>game is one you ought to look in to.)  
>
>what troubles my heart is that ive gotten down pretty deep into the dungeon 
>(somewhere around the 5th, 6th or 7th level) and seem to be stuck.  its the 

You might want to post your question to comp.sys.atari.st  This was a big
ST game and there are all kinds of maps/walkthroughs available via ftp.

Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: denaumow@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Mortibund)
Subject: **For Sale:  Global Effect**
Organization: You mean that I belong to an organization??
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:22:04 GMT

Hello....

Yet another sale.

Global Effect by Millennium.  Both 3.5" & 5.25" disks.  Sort of a
cross between SimCity, SimEarth, and a bit of Command HQ.  asking $23
(i'll take care of shipping - continential US only)

Thanks,

Dave

--
"Just think...If hell really DID freeze    ...David Naumowicz
 over...Imagine all the promises people    denaumow@vela.acs.oakland.edu
 would have to keep..."                    denaumow@argo.acs.oakland.edu
	      -Shadow Thief on ISCA-bbs
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From: sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN CHYE HEE)
Subject: Re: w7: Where do I find the beans?
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:42:10 GMT

Niek.van.Oostenbrugge (niek@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl) wrote:
: SPOILERS AHEAD!
: I've got a problem in Munkharama.  I am looking for the land
: of dreams.  I've been in the temple below Munkharama and I
: talked to brother moser about the land of dreams, but all he
: tells me is some story about searching in my inner mind.
: I know I need beans for the receptables in Munkharama, but
: I haven't found any beans yet.
: I've been in virtually any place where you can go without a boat,
: but I haven't found any beans.  Probably the well has something
: to do with it, but I can't figure out what.
--
The beans are for the mastermind puzzle and the beans are all found in
the rooms near the receptacles.

If you are wanting to find the land of dreams, then you would require
the well coins which are from the well. Solve the riddle of the well and
you will get the coins. (the answer is COINS)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

			Gilbert Tan Chye Hee
		      sci30139@nusunix1.nus.sg
From: norby@pearl.berkeley.edu (Peter Norby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Need Help with Amazon
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:12:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pearl.berkeley.edu

This is really silly, considering Amazon has way lots 
of online help in it already, but I'm stuck on the
slaver's ship, because I can't find the harpoon to
load into the harpoon gun to take care of the guard to 
grab the stuff thru the portal

Peter Norby
norby@uclink.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok)
Subject: Spear of Destiny debug mode
Organization: Comspec Communications, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:54:19 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Keywords: Spear of Destiny, Wolfenstein 3-D

Greetings.  At this point in time, just about everyone knows about
using the -next option (for the first version) and -goobers option
(for consequent versions) and then pressing LShift-Alt-Backspace
within Castle Wolfenstein 3D to access the debug mode.  Now, I could
have sworn someone mentioning what the switch was for Spear of
Destiny (was it -debug?), but unfortunately I didn't save the message.
Could someone please repost the correct option?  (Does it differ
between the shareware and registered versions?)  Please help!
--
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His sins were scarlet, but his books were read. |------------------------------
                                                | UUCP:  ...uunet!uunet.ca!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: wakaw@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Shih-Min Liang)
Subject: Violent Fighter Question.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:13:28 GMT

Hi to all you out there. This is a repost of a question not yet answered.
I downloaded a copy of vf.arj from wuarchive, but after running anmfight.exe
the program asks me to match three colors on a picture. I have heard a lot
about this game in the newsgroup, and thought that it was a shareware. Is
there a pic. or gif that should come with it? Or can someone E-mail me the
information needed to run the program.

Thanx in advance.

--Wakaw--

ADD: wakaw@leland.stanford.edu
From: jgregory@ub.d.umn.edu (jennifer gregory)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: --- CLASSIC GAMES FOR SALE OR TRADE ---
Date: 18 Dec 1992 09:09:13 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

In article <1992Dec18.132426.2368@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>
>(Games that need a crack due to errotic disk check:)


Wow... that must be a first... Shanghai has an EROTIC disk check? ;)
(Well **I** thought it was funny! :)
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From: clarion@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Clarion)
Subject: Re: The Group Split
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:48:57 GMT

In <1992Dec18.045149.20930@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>When are the voting results going to be posted? 

Sorry, It was only a survey, not the CFD or CFV.  That most likely happen
after the new year if there is enough demand.



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From: caldwell@bach.udel.edu (David L Caldwell)
Subject: Falcon 3.0 vs WingCommander II
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: World
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:29:55 GMT

Hello Everyone,

I'm in the market for a good Jet fighter game.  The two most talked about
games are Falcon 3.0 and WingCommander II.  What are the strengths and
weaknesses of each?  I have a 386DX/25 with 8Mb (630k available to DOS),
Thunderboard and Joystick, how well will they run on my system?  Do they
use any goofy copy-protection schemes?  Any and all information and
opinions are welcome.

Thanks in advance!!


				--Dave


-------------------------------
Dave Caldwell
Computer & Network Services
University of Delaware
caldwell@brahms.udel.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: wiggins@aethelbehrt.cs.odu.edu (Samuel E Wiggins)
Subject: Castles II
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:22:45 GMT

Could someone give me critique on this game?  I saw it at Elec. Boutique,
and it looked cool, but I was wondering how anyone who has purchased it
feels about it.  What's the goal?  What are some features?  How does it
play?  Do you like it?  (Saw it for $40 at EB; naturally, I was wondering
if it was worth the pricetag.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: josh@areyes.com (Joshua Klobe)
Subject: Ultima 6 help lots of questions 
Organization: Areyes, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:49:57 GMT


  Heloooo.

   I recently been playing Ultima6 and can't figure out a few things.  
  For convenience I'm going to use numbered questions.  Here we go...

 1. I have found plans for the balloon somewhere.  But me, being the idiot I
 am, restarted the game.  Can someone tell me where I found it?  I remember
 it being in a cave somewhere.  Where?

 2. Is there any place to buy swamp boots?  I have asked everyone in Britaina.
   I have to resort to stealing them.  

 3. Can someone give me a list of mantra's for the runes and locations of the
  shrines.  

 4. I followed notes around the world finally leading me to Iolo's house.  I
  talk to his horse for the CLUE,  and he tells me a hint for Ultima5.  Is 
  that is?  Hmph!

 5. The mayor of trinsic I believe is a pirate.  He has a book that is 
   Hawkin's last entry (supposdly),  a sextant, and 600 gold coins.  When I
  ask him about it he either laughs fearfully or ask's what I'm insuating.
  What key word do I need.

 6. How do you attain levels of experience?  I go to mondian and minax, talk
 and I can't figure it out! 

 7.  Where do I find the broken piece of tablet?  I believe it's on Avatar 
  Isle. Where.  Also what rune is used on the shrine there?  

 8.  What purpose does sutek play?  I find him in a castle near serpent's 
  hold.  Also anything in the castle and underground?

 9.  I have found a hideous looking man on what I believe is dagger's Isle.
  (the big island north of moonglow) He is delierous. But I found a passage
  below his house that led to money, torches, glass swords, etc.  You name it
  it was there.  Is he Hawkins?

 10. After spaming Iolo I can create things.  Could someone please give me a 
 list of all the things?:) 

 11. Iolo's apprentice says she will share this month's profits with Iolo. 
   Can I claim it?

 12. My map Is so worn out I can't read latitude or longitude.  Could someone
   help me there?

 13. I remember there being a ghost in skara brae.  When does it come out?

  I would like to thank you, even if you don't reply(but I would be forever
   grateful) because you endured 13 questions. E-mail would be nice but I
  don't want to be selfish so here is fine too.  Once again thanx!

-- 
Joshua Klobe		uunet!areyes!josh		(203) 847-6003
			josh@areyes.com

	Thus quothe the raven, "Nevermore"
From: cg533@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James Eugene Alloway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: New Civ or Warlords versions coming?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:51:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Like the subject sez: Does anyone have info on when new version of Civ and WarWarlords will be out, and what they might have added/changed?  Any Info is
Appreciated.
   Gene Alloway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: oestline@maui.qualcomm.com (Ofer Estline)
Subject: Re: TENNIS Demo
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:27:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.144235.2718@ncsu.edu> bkpipa@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN KEITH PIPA) writes:
>I found out about the other views and stuff myself (press ESC).
>Just like 4d-boxing!
>
>Great digitized sounds and voices!
>This game looks REALLY good.
>Of course, I haven't played any other PC
>Tennis game, so I have nothing to compare it to.
>
>Brian
>

	From a programmer's perspective, the demo seems extremely smooth.
	All the details necessary to make this game enjoyable are there,
	and the 3-d modeling scrolls effortlessly.  An absolute must-see.
	--Ofer

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From: fm13@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de ()
Subject: Wolf3D - Wanted
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:51:39 GMT
Organization: Uni Mannheim
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]



As the game is not sold in common shops here, and I have no idea if it is
sold anywhere in Germany, I'd be interested in buying episodes 2-6 from
anyone who wants to get rid of it.
Please e-mail me if you want to sell it.

-- 
Andreas            e-mail: fm13@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de
University of Mannheim         Tel. ++49 621 292-3124
From: robear@access.digex.com (Robear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Comments on V for Victory?
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:24:06 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <Bz5oM3.8vo@news.cso.uiuc.edu> gsbg9079@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Scott Braley) writes:
>Is it any good?  Both the D-Day and the Russian one look pretty cool.  Has 
>anyone played them?
>
	Both are fantastic, IFF you are looking for a good, complicated
board wargame with an easy interface.  They are not realtime or action
games, just solidly researched wargames with good to excellent AI.  I
would not hesitate to describe them as the new standard for computer
wargames.  Email me for more info, if you have questions.

	David Pipes
robear@digex.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games

As of yesterday,  my mail was bounced from the survey site.  "Rejecting all
mail for this node..." or something to this affect...

Oh well...   
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From: nrabinow@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Nancy Rabinowitz)
Subject: Re: Do *NOT* split this newsgroup!!!
Keywords: split
Organization: Hamilton College - Clinton, NY
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:22:45 GMT

In article <1g7kfcINN7p8@oak8.doc.ic.ac.uk> kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong) writes:
>In article <wunner.723584822@nova> wunner@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Guenter Wunner) writes:
>>
>>Okay, enough is enough! Why should we split comp.sys.ibm.pc.games into
>>several sub-groups? I use "nn" to read news and I can just page
>>through the subjects and search for interesting articles. I just
>[stuff deleted]
>
>	Yeah, well, I guess you've never used "rn" then. Some people 
>don't have "nn" or "xrn" or whatever. In fact, I happen to be one of the
>poor folx stuck with "rn" And boy, miss 3 days of news, and that's about
>900 articles. Searching thru interesting stuff isn't much help coz you
>never know just what *is* interesting. So... it's kill all pirate,sound-
>board, 486 garbage and wallow thru the rest. It wouldn't be so bad if
>you guys would use like some similar titles for me to kill, but heck, no.
>
>==============================================================================
>" There is no right, there is only POWER! "
>				- Ashen-Shugar,A Darkness at Sethenon
>
>Hadoken! -Ken

Yeah, I use rn too and it stinks.  I have a 200 line Kill File, probably
bigger now, and I still get 70 articles from 10 PM to 9 AM!!!  It's
impossible.  I say split the group up and then let people who want to
read all of the new groups read them.

Mike
 

-- 
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		    CIS Address--70732,2072      GEnie--M.Rabinowit1
		    Delphi Address--Darkknite

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From: mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee)
Subject: Re: HELP: Civ city overpopulation
Keywords: civ
Organization: Royal Roads Military College, Victoria, B.C.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:15:41 GMT


Use Railroad to improve the production of food for your cities.  Every square
that is railroaded produces 1.5 times what it would normally produce . . . that
means 1.5 times the food, 1.5 times the shields and 1.5 times the trade!!!  Try
it out.  Railroad is probably one of the best technologies to get.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: SBPRO Initialization
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:22:20 GMT

In article <0f_sUzm00Uh_A2W2Mr@andrew.cmu.edu>, hs02+@andrew.cmu.edu (Hollis M. Schuler) writes:
> Is there a program that will initialize my sound blaster pro?  I have a
> "non-standard" configuration ie. A240 I5 because of my token ring card
> and half the time a turn oon my computer my card Buzzes and then screams
> when I enter windows or any other application that uses it.  If I run
> test-sbp it goes away, but I would like something I could put into my
> autoexec that I can forget about!!!  Anybody?
> 

Have you set the BLASTER environmental variable ?

Try adding this to your autoexec.bat

Set BLASTER=A240 I5 D1 T2

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From: steve.romig@gate.micromed.com (Steve Romig) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Front Page Sports Footbal
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:55:00 GMT
Reply-To: steve.romig@gate.micromed.com (Steve Romig) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Micro-Medic Network Gateway - +1 408 280-1610 - Public access BBS

WPB>    Has anyone been able to get the VCR Interface/Replay mode to work.  I h
WPB>attempted to use the TAB key during a play, after a play, etc. The manual
WPB>(mentions) this feature as an option, but I have not seen it in any of the
WPB>setup menus.  Can anyone help?

Reply works fine for me without any additional setup or configuration.
Just pressed TAB and the VCR interface pops up.

SR

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From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Red Baron Patches?
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:22:12
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: will@austin.ibm.com's message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:34:52 GMT

In article <BzGwy4.1DAC@austin.ibm.com> will@austin.ibm.com (Will
Fiveash) writes:

   I just bought my brother Red Baron for Xmas and I was wondering if
   there were any patches for this game so I can give him those along with
   the game.

Red Baron has been out for long enough that it should not require
any patches.  The only real patch I know of is one that fixes
joystick handling on very fast 386/486 systems.  However, if you
bought your copy recently then that fix is probably already
incorporated into the distribution runs.

There is also a Red Baron Mission Builder that comes as an add-on
to the existing Red Baron game.  It incorporates some small
bugfixes as well as many new features.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: changl@ecf.toronto.edu (CHANG LI)
Subject: Another world
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:49:33 GMT



Hi,


Could anyone please send me a list of the
level codes.  eg: TXHF...


Thanks.


  li@aurora.physics.uwo.ca
-- 



      Li Chang   Comp Eng 9T4                     ____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: schao@monet.uwaterloo.ca (Stewart Chao)
Subject: Re: Falcon 3.0 vs WingCommander II
Organization: University of Waterloo
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:22:22 GMT

: In article <Bz99pv.6G7@news.udel.edu>, David L Caldwell writes:
: > I'm in the market for a good Jet fighter game.  The two most talked about
: > games are Falcon 3.0 and WingCommander II.  What are the strengths and
: > weaknesses of each?  I have a 386DX/25 with 8Mb (630k available to DOS),
: > Thunderboard and Joystick, how well will they run on my system?  Do they
: > use any goofy copy-protection schemes?  Any and all information and
: > opinions are welcome.

I've played both Falcon 3.0 and Wing Commander (I not II).  

Falcon 3.0 is most detailed and complete military fighter simulator.  There is
both an action (flying) and tactical part to Falcon.  In campaign mode you
need to plan your missions.  Careful planning can make live a lot easier when
you are flying.  There have been many criticism about the flight model of 
Falcon, but it more than makes up for it in detail.  (Like watching a fire
fight between ground troops, and little men running from a burning truck.)

Wing Commander is not a jet fighter game.  Traditional dogfighting manuavers
do not apply to it.  It is excellent game, but it is game.  The joystick 
does not work like an aircraft.  When you move the joystick to the right, 
the nose of craft moves right, in a aircraft the plane would bank right.  This
takes a bit of time to get use to if you play a lot of flight simulators.
The graphics are excellent.  

Stewart

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
Subject: Re: Game releases....
Originator: jjprice@c00075-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jjprice@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY JAMES PRICE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:58:48 GMT


moser@ks.id.ethz.ch (Stefan Moser) writes:

|>In article <hrpdko.36@pnv.palm.cri.nz>, news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
|>|> In article <1992Dec8.194241.10714@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com> shanks@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Mark Shanks) writes:
|>|> 
|>|> >In article <42176@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs177wai@sdcc5.ucsd.edu (Christopher Fodor) writes:
|>|> >>Just out of curiosity, I want to know why *anybody* buys a game when
|>|> >>it is first released.
|>|> >>
|>|> 
|>|> Wizardry 7 was 99.9% bug free out of the box... why wait?
|>|> 
|>|> Dale Ogilvie
|>
|>Hmmm... I waited more than a year for Wiz7, because they started to advertise
|>it back then. So why didn't they release it? Because it was *packed* with bugs. 
|>They could have done the same thing as other companys (no names here) and
|>you would have rushed out to buy it. 
|>
|>....Why wait ??????
|>
They did the same with StarControl2 Pushed the date back buy about 2 months..
They still missed a few but its worth buying...

-- 
-Jeffrey Price
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