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From: gemr@netcom.com (Mary Epperson)
Subject: Re: I'm baaaaaack.
Keywords: I was here before, I am here again. 
Organization: Revenge, Inc.  "Dirty deeds done dirt cheap"
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:18:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.232409.8444@umibox.hanse.de> root@umibox.hanse.de (Bernd Meyer) writes:
>jggoslin@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Gorilla Welfare) writes:
>
>>Remember the Hopeless Romantics of the World Who were born in 1973
>>club?  Oh yes... The prez is back...
>
>Oh, I remember you guys. Made me feel so ooooooold! (A hopeless romantic who
>was born in 1969 :-)
>

old from '69??  Oh ghod...what does that make use from 1962 and
before??  I think I need my cane ... *grin*

Doesn't seem to matter what age we are, we're all romantics!!

Mary
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mreinker@nyx.cs.du.edu (matthew Reinker)
Subject: Re: Advice please!!
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:01:36 GMT

Sounds like she is trying to get the message across to her boyfriend that
she is being neglected, but is using the grapevine to do it.  Tell her to
either tell him herself (ultimatums are good) or leave him.  C'mon gals,
we want guys to be open with us, it is about time we do the same thing!
	The Companion

P.S. Once again writing from my loves' account.  Thanks for the advice to
my post:Help...? He is outa sight and outa mind! :-)

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From: manjulav@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Valentine's Day gift suggestions needed!!
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:44:27 GMT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <105729@netnews.upenn.edu>, pezzillo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Amy J. Pezzillo) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan14.111630.13615@bsu-ucs> 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a pause.) writes:
>>>
>>>	Hello again all, I'm back from break.
>>>
>>>
>>>	My girlfriend and I are still together this is our four month 
>>>anniversarry,
>>>
>>>	Valentine's Day is coming up quicker than I had planned...  Any 
>>>suggestions on what to get her?  
>>
> 
> Here's one I did for my SO, and he loved it:  I made a tape of all
> love songs.  Each of them either meant something special to us as a
> couple, or said something special that I wanted to say to him.  It
> cost very little, as I owned a copy of most of the songs, and borrowed
> others from friends, but I put a lot of time into it, and that meant a
> lot to him.  Also, we can listen to it together, which is great.  I
> mad a copy for myself for when we're apart.  
> 
> I hope you two have a happy Valentine's Day!
> 
> ajp
> 

	The earlier one was a great idea. I am not if you would like this as
this is for someone long distance.  Well what did was get someone pictures of
me taken in the poses that he likes a lot and I made a tape with all our talks
in it I hope he likes it 
-MAnju
-Keep SMiling:)
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: the architecture blues....
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:20:27 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
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In article <1993Jan26.230746.24643@Virginia.EDU> llk4k@Virginia.EDU ("Lori Karalow") writes:
[Deleted: why am I wasting my time on a guy that obviously doesn't want me?]

It's very simple, Lori -- seek someone else! Broaden your social horizons.
Be brave and step out. Because:

1. You may find a new RP.
2. You will have an interesting life.
3. It may be fun.
4. You may find you get more happy with being solo over time.

Try not to lose your friendship with him, but he's just acting (and you're
treating him) like a surrogate partner at the moment. As you clearly state
and recognise, this is not a healthy situation for either of you. 

Are you *sure* you're not in love with him tho'? ;-)

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From: llk4k@Virginia.EDU ("Lori Karalow")
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: last night...
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:30:37 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Poor guy!  Come on!!  Being on the female end and once having a
boyfriend at Kansas State University while I was in Northern
Virginia...I said the same words to him, "No I didn't kiss
him...should I have?"  It's a game!  She's testing you to see
what you're reaction would be.  Of course, if you didn't care
you would have said "Yes, I don't give a living shit what you
do."  It seems you do care and you communicated with her that
it would have bothered you if she had done so.  So far, you've
done the right thing.  But let's move on...Now...tomorrow you
could get run over by a bus (how many times have you heard this
before????) and all you would have accomplished is fretting
over some female this week.  Get a life!!!  You're in school!
It's supposed to be the time of your life !!  Trust me it is!!
This is my second time around!!  I love it!  I can't stay
away!!  YOu will meet a bizillion women from now to
graduation!  Don't cut your nose off to spite your face.  Enjoy
the time you have while you still have it.  Hope my pep talk
hasn't made me look insensitive.  Have a great week and keep
focused on your goals!  Lori
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Subject: Re: Advice please!!
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:40:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.065532.8461@advtech.uswest.com> smithrud@advtech.uswest.com writes:
...
>You will only steal her if she _wants_ to be stolen.  I don't know
>too many people who have been stolen against their will (abductions
>for ranson don't count).  ;)
>
>My point: If she doesn't want you pursuing her, she will probably
>tell you.  If she isn't telling you to leave her alone, but is still
>claiming to love her boyfriend, she might not be sure of _what_ she
>wants.
>
I think that your point is that he doesn't need to worry about doing
something against her will, unless he behaves badly.  This is very
true. But unfortunately for him, this isn't enough to decide what he
should do.

She could want him to pursue her and still want to keep her boyfriend
(that would be a bit immature, but not unheard of). Or she could be 
unsure, and then decide to keep her current boyfriend. Or she could
dump her current boyfriend and then decide that it was a mistake,
and blame they guy that stole her away, as if it were all his fault.

My suggestion is that he make clear (as tactfully as possible) that
he is interested in her, and that he would not be treating her the
way she is complaining about. Leave it to her to decide what she 
wants, and when to act.

Peace,
Michael.

Xref: sparky alt.romance:16453 alt.polyamory:2486
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.polyamory
Subject: Re: Polyamory again (was Re: last night...)
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:15:08 GMT
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In article <1993Jan25.183931.20896@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:

[Polyamory is the way!]

Jon,

Sounds great man. Really, I mean it. Like most egalitarian ideals.

But I couldn't cut it, and I wouldn't want my RP to play life that way,
either. It's my culture too, and my possessive nature -- there is nothing
wrong with this and I recognise my failings. But this is not the way for me.

It's a great ideal, but like all the others, it'll never come to pass. Not
while we're human anyway...

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@rs6401.ecs.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Possible FAQs (Was: Re: Girls can be confusing...)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 03:16:46 GMT

dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) writes:

>In article <1993Jan27.191530.25410@jetsun.weitek.COM> weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
>>
>>A FAQ posting might be a good idea, but wouldn't you need at least two 
>>answers for each question, one from 'Pollyanna' and one from 'Mr. Toad'?
>>We usually get at least two schools of thought on each question, the
>>romantic and the cynical.

>Excellent idea Michael. I hope Christopher has the time to do it, because
>this would be brilliant!

 Well, I have the time, but how does one go about compiling a FAQ?  Obviously
I've never done it before.  Should we restart all the FAQ threads and I'll
collect them and assemble the FAQ from those?


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From: Mr_Paranoid
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: ++ Am I paranoid? ++
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:34:25 GMT
Reply-To: mr-woried
Organization: Worriesville


I am concerned about loosing my SO. We have been seeing eachother for over a year,
but I am now at University, and she is still at school (300 miles away). I see her
about once a month (and at Christmas).

The trouble is, when I speak to her on the phone (most evenings), she talks about
this chap at her school who lost his father in a car accident - and she has been
helping him out (as she too lost her father when she was a child). She said that
she is going to the inquest into his father's death with him.

This concerns me a bit considering most of her friends are female - and she hasn't,
in the past, spent much time with that many other boys at her school.

We have discussed our relationship to great depths, and she says that she could
never be unfaithful - but I am a natural worrier - and this doesn't totally quell
my worst fears. She starts University next year, and will be within commuting
distance, and so I will be able to see her more often hopefully.

Any views would be appreciated. Worried.
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:41:07 -0500 
From: "Paul S. Hrynko" <ph2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Taking SO's for granted
	<1993Jan19.193902.9575@jetsun.weitek.COM>

I have been a dedicated reader and poster to AR about the thing that go
on......but I'd like to bring up something else....messing up.

My SO and I have been together over a year and a half.  We are in a LDR,
an eternal 338 miles apart.  But through all of this we've become
closer.  We both realize that this is for real, that we were meant for
each other.  However, recently I've been having a really fun time
here...and my faithfulness to my SO is starting to approach the grey
areas


I want to know what other AR's think of physical vs. emotional
involvement...whether if the emotional ties are strong enough in a
relationship, if a relationship more platonic or more physical with
someone at school is possible.  I don't know whether I have the cake and
want to eat it too, whether I'm stupid, or whether this makes some bit
of sense.  Sometimes people need to be held......does that make the
person unfaithful?

I've always wondered................what if you develop 2 SO's....do you
have to choose?  What if the relationships are different?

If one relationship is meant to be, can another develop?

                                 A confused AR,



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From: root@umibox.hanse.de (Bernd Meyer)
Subject: Re: I'm baaaaaack.
Keywords: I was here before, I am here again. 
Organization: Linux Box standing around in Hamburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:24:09 GMT

jggoslin@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Gorilla Welfare) writes:

>Remember the Hopeless Romantics of the World Who were born in 1973
>club?  Oh yes... The prez is back...

Oh, I remember you guys. Made me feel so ooooooold! (A hopeless romantic who
was born in 1969 :-)

I'm back, too!

Bernie (it's been much longer than Beaker, though).
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From: pa_ross@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Mr Rossy)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Women in engineering...
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:42:50 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <1993Jan19.162222.18562@wam.umd.edu> porta@wam.umd.edu (David Palmer) writes:

>	My SO is an engineering major, and she is extremely intuitive and
>passionate.

I have deep regret for her. Engineering is the most B-O-R-I-N-G subject I
have ever had the misfortune to study.

						 Paul
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: qxlrnglx@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian D. Howard)
Subject: Re: younger & more experienced man
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:26:15 GMT

cvaba532@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:

>i feel that i am in a dilema...i met this guy thru
>a BBS that i phone into..he is the sysop..we talked
>met..etc....he kissed me the other day but it was 
>a fiasco...i am older than him by 6 years...i just 
>turned 26 and he will be turning 20 next month
>when we are talking...age isnt a big deal..but when 
>i think about it....it makes me wonder

>i am not very experienced and he is a bit more 
>experienced than i.  oh well...i think after the 
>'kiss' fiasco, that might be it

>is age a problem? is experience or lack thereof a big deal?

For me, physical age hasn't been a problem, although legalities can be
ugly.  However, vast differences in mental age and maturity can quickly 
bring down the sledgehammer of destruction on a relationship.
Experience being a problem depends on what you are looking for, and
what you like.  Some people really enjoy being able to introduce new
things to relatively inexperienced people.  On the other hand,
sometimes we look for people with a similar level of experience.

If his age disrupts the fun of the relationship, then it is something
to think about.  If you are looking to experiement with people who are
also mostly experimenting, then that's also something to think about.
But if the two of you enjoy each other, things can certainly work out
if you want them to.  Also, consider asking him what he is looking
for.  In short--if it bothers one of you, talk about it.
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Subject: Looking for poetry for Valentine's Day
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:50:03 GMT

Subject line says it all really.  Email or post.

Ta.

Your in the name of love

Mick...


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From: anders@deakin.OZ.AU (Vercingetorix)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: younger & more experienced man
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:42:23 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Victoria, Australia
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In article <1993Jan21.020556.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvaba532@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>a fiasco...i am older than him by 6 years...i just 
>turned 26 and he will be turning 20 next month
>when we are talking...age isnt a big deal..but when 
>i think about it....it makes me wonder
>
[stuff deleted]
>
>is age a problem? is experience or lack thereof a big deal?

no, honey, 6 years doesn't matter a bean.  a girl in my office turned 20 
recently and is practically engaged to a guy aged at least 32.  i've ne'er
seen a happier couple.  now as for experience (and the politics thereof),
if it doesn't worry him, it shouldn't concern you -- unless you feel his
greater experience has you at a dangerous disadvantage.

andre.
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From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Curious?
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:51:39 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1jmt1uINNrhj@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> ap.6575@cupid.sai.com (AJ) writes:
>
>
>
>How many men are intimidated by extremely independent women?
>I am very independent, however maintain my femininity, but
>I keep meeting men with low self-confidence/esteem who have
>a problem with my independence and very direct, open approach
>to everything in life.  When I do have a SO, I give 100% to the
>relationship while maintaining my independence.    
>
>Advise or comments at all will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>:-)
>
I like women with strong personalities. Some women with strong 
personalities are dependent (think Scarlett O'Hara), but more
often they are independent. When I was younger and had less 
self-confidence and self-esteem, I liked independent women 
even better than I do now, because they seemed to have 
self-confidence and self-esteem. I suspect what you are seeing
is a combination of low self-esteem and a sexist attitude that
the man needs to be in control. That is, if these men suddenly
had self-confidence, they would be trying to dominate you.

On the other hand, I think that sometimes a man may
think that if a woman is more independent or outgoing than 
he are, and she does not show a clear interest in in him,
that she has decided that he is not romantic material
and that he shouldn't try anything. If this is happening
to you, you would find a lot of 'nice-guy' friends who
don't seem to interested in romance.

Peace,
Michael.



 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: A kiss should never be given as a duty.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:16:45 GMT

fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen) writes:


>But I asked her to marry me on the grass in the quad at UI in '47, and 
>we've been married in love ever since. It all stemmed from a kiss given
>as a sign of endearment, and not a kiss given in duty.

  Very nicely put.  But, this put me to thinking (does anything NOT make
me think? :&) )---what do any of YOU consider 'off limits' to friends, and
reserved for SO's only?

  Personally I think that...

  *HUGS* are for SO's and close friends
  Kissing is for SO's ONLY
  Cuddling is for SO's and a few close friends
  Massages are for SO's and some close friends

  Generally, if it'll be misunderstood I don't do it (so I don't cuddle with
or give massages to my female friends with SO's).

  What about you?



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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@nuge105.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Any cure for the "Just wanna be friends" Blues?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:22:17 GMT

chavis@thumper..bellcore.com (Dennis Chavis) writes:

>Let them see how it is when the "convenience store/one-man support group"
>is closed for business.   Then you'll probably be scum, but a least you'll
>see it coming.  

  That's probably a good idea.  It's one thing to be kind and supportive.
It's another thing to be a doormat.  If someone starts treating you like one,
just walk away.  There are other people who won't treat you like that---it's
worth the effort to find them instead.

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