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From: pkingi@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: FUNKY GLOBAL EXCHANGE
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:28:13 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Anybody (especially DJs & fellow funksters) interested in posting info 'bout
the following:  Mixers ( 2 or more records played simultaneously which
complement each other perfectly ie. same key, same tempo). 
Usually an acapella over an instrumental. Rapapellas over other beats isn't 
good enuff, easy shit. A classic example : BAD acapella by M.Jackson over
                                           Planet Rock Bonus Beats or
                                           Pump up the Volume - MARRS.

This requires a lot of research & experimentation and if a good networking can
be established, continued correspondence can save us a lot of time and it is
good to share what we discover.

Also , loops which complement too - eg. Breakbeat off 'Blow your head' by 
                                        Fred Wesley & JB's (mega-slowed)
                                        with Bassline off 'Sacrifice' by
                                        Courtney Pine
My friend Pat also told me of someone who posted a list of jazz numbers with
excellent breaks to loop. I tried to find it on his computer (which he is
kindly letting me use for this) but to my dismay it was deleted. Could that
person/s kindly re-post that list. Grateful I would be.

One more - personal playlists, Top 10 etc would be excellent to trade. 
Mine for quite a while now has been (in no particular order):
 BRING UP THE MIKE SOME MORE - Ragga Twins
 I GOTTA HOLD ON YOU (Silky Dub) - Maurice Joshua
 WARRIOR RE-CHARGE - Aswad 
 Anything from TALKIN' LOUD esp Perspective, Omar, Galliano
 and from my own country, (DO YA WANNA FEEL) IRIE - Gifted and Brown

This may be of little use, being a bit old p'haps but New Zealand is a small
corner of the globe.

RSVP, Campbell Ngata.
From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Don't you leave me this way....
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:42:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Aug16.154242.29725
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug14.233929.18192@wam.umd.edu> alexees@wam.umd.edu (ALEXANDROS G. HOBSON) writes:
>Could somebody tell who sang this song?
>I think it was Thelma Houston and Jimmy Sommerville (aka Communards).
>Did Gloria Gaynor sing it too?

Thelma Houston (Motown) did the orignal and Communards did a remake a
couple of years ago on MCA. I don't know of anyone else ever recording
the song.
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From: nordstro@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Christian Nordstroem)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: ZAPP
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:23:25 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany

Chad Mboya-Joe Darby <cd1l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Hi,

>I'm about to order some Zapp CDs.  I was wondering if anyone has the
>song lists for their CDs on hand.  I think they have about 4 CDs.

>So any info would be helpful.
 wrong buddy, 
they have 5 !

 c ya!

>/// Chad Darby                  /
>//  Field Robotics Center       //
>/   Carnegie Mellon University ///
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From: dege@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Ralph M Degennaro)
Subject: Re: Body Count: "Cop Killer" removed from album
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.161120.22537@ntmtv>, wattsww@ntmtv.UUCP (Warren Watts) writes...
>In article <AeYdTUS00awU8K3lUh@andrew.cmu.edu> ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Scott Jefferson) writes:
>>I got the album by Bodycount but don't play it much. As a big metal fan
>>the music on this album is not nearly up to Metallica, Slayer or
>>Megadeth. The guitarists have got to learn how to play better on their
>>next album (also people are always saying that white people shouldn't
>>rap unless they are down with black culture. Shouldn't this apply to
>>heavy metal but in reverse since white people have totally developed
>>this form of music?)
> 
>Are you saying that heavy metal guitar players aren't influenced by
>Jimi Hendrix?  The biggest heavy metal band of all time, Led Zeppelin,
>lifted some of it's songs directly from BLACK blues singers.  Catch a
>clue white people did not totally develop heavy metal, they borrow
>from many black artists.  The last thing we need is racists like you
>telling black people where their 'place' is.

I agree that the comment about whites and blacks is utter shit, but there
is something about the development of heavy metal music that should be
said.  Musically speaking, metal stuff has alot of similiarities to 
classical music, not blues.  It may have started from the rock-n-roll 
"style" of music (therefore some blues), but brought in alot of other
aspects, namely classical.  And if you want to follow the progression
even further, quite a few rappers sample heavy metal riffs.

Rio
dege@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky,alt.rap,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Body Count: "Cop Killer" removed from album
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:50:58 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Scott Jefferson) writes:

>I got the album by Bodycount but don't play it much. As a big metal fan
>the music on this album is not nearly up to Metallica, Slayer or
>Megadeth. The guitarists have got to learn how to play better on their
>next album (also people are always saying that white people shouldn't
>rap unless they are down with black culture. Shouldn't this apply to
>heavy metal but in reverse since white people have totally developed
>this form of music?)

Sadly, most black people are all TOO down with white culture.

The guitarists should learn how to play???  Puh-leeze.  BC ain't meant
to be a metal band of the ilk where white 14 year olds sit in their 
bedrooms and whack off listening to some high school dropout from Sweden
play scales with 64th notes at 190bpm.  This band ait about the "rock
hero" trip; don't expect them to pander to that image.

Besides, the true secret to the success of Metallica and Megadeth is the
fact that they're from that Mecca of the rock world, San Francisco. That
they happen to be white is pure coincidence.


-- 
Mark McKinzie          	|    We just won't eat on Sunday
mckinzie@math.wisc.edu 	|    Got to buy him a limousine
UW Dept. of Mathematics	|    Somewhere to live, somewhere to pray. 
Madison, WI 53706      	|               -RJD, "TV Crimes"-
From: peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Distribution: world
Subject: Walter Carlos
Organization: Zone4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:34:00 GMT

All right. I admit it. I am confused. A little while ago, I heard the three
minute version of Walter Carlos' "Timesteps" on the Clokwork Orange soundtrack,
and a couple of weeks later bought "Walter Carlos' Clockwork Orange" album 
in a used bin, with the complete 13 minute version of Timesteps, and I like
the album very much. Inside my friend's _Clockwork Orange_ CD, there was a
short bio of Carlos, and everything seemed kosher.

THEN, after flipping through some old magazines while housecleaning, I
came across an ad for the TRON soundtrack (this was a mag from 1982), in
which it is written (and I quote):

"Amplifying the film's spectacular special effects is a score by synthesizer
genius Wendy Carlos, who has worked with a 200 piece ensemble and 
synthesized it to create her most compelling work since _Switched-On Bach_
and _Clockwork Orange_"

Waitasec. I have a copy of C.O. by WALTER Carlos, and S.O.Bach is listed as
being by WALTER Carlos... What gives here? Is it the same person? Someone
unconfuse me, please.


--
Piotr F Dubiel
peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca

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From: zsalman@chess.engin.umich.edu (Zaid Kadhim Salman)
Subject: New Age Funk
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 22:41:18 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: zsalman@chess.engin.umich.edu



Anyone have any recommendations for new age funk (if there is such a thing)? 
Actually, there is, which is why I'm asking about it. One, that is, ONE, track
on Michael Dowdle's From the Hip CD, namely, At the Backstage, is really funky 
(crazy slap bass and all) but the rest of the album is nowhere near that style.

Also, how about new age music in a tribal vein, with a lot of chanting and
tribal stuff like that, something along the lines of Peter Gabriel, but without
all the annoying lyrics? Passion has been suggested, any details about it?

						--Zaid Salman
						--Vizlab


PS rec.music.funky seems to deal more with hip-hop than with real funk.
From: ewarner@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (TheMaskedAxigallian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Vangelis New Release (WHEN?????) + 1 more thought
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:37:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug19.184027.22030@adp.uucp> travisj@adp.uucp (Travis) writes:
>Howdeeeeee!
>
>Hey what is the deal with Vangelis. The City was released in 1990-in the UK
>at least.  Where is some new material??  I think it would be KILLER
>to have an ORB and VANGELIS team effort.  KILLER!!!!!!
>
>Trav
>-- 
>/******************************************************************************/
>/* Travis Kiland Johnson - travisj@beau.adp.wisc.edu                          */
>/* <insert quote & evil laughter here>                                        */
>/******************************************************************************/

Have you gotten a copy of Jon and Vangelis' new album, PAGE OF LIFE,
yet?  If not, I would definetly suggest getting it.  I'm not too
sure what else Vangelis is up to solo-wise these days, though I
heard he and Jon were touring in Germany recently.

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From: hikonen@mits.mdata.fi (Harri Ikonen)
Subject: New Tangerine Dream
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:48:36 GMT


I just heard that a new TD album has been released. It is called "Rumble
Stilt Skin" or something like that. It is based on a german(?) folk story,
which is read(!) by Kathleen Turner and the TD music is some sort of
"soundtrack" to it. I will post more info when I hear/get the album,
hopefully sometime next week.


Harri Ikonen (hikonen@mits.mdata.fi)

?.SIG LOAD ERROR
READY.

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From: walshm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Matt 'MTM' Walsh)
Subject: P. OHearn - liked anc. dreams and Indigo
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:48:18 GMT

I liked both Ancient Dreams and Indigo alot.  What other albums
has Ohearn done with this style of music?  What other albums
by other artists are like this style of music?
--
Matt Walsh  walshm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
How can you have your pudding if you don't eat your meat? You! Yes You! 
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From: scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins)
Subject: Re: What is the Orb ?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:32:10 GMT

In article <zrahd01.713985367@sunap1> zrahd01@sunap1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Daniel Haenle) writes:
>Please tell me all you know about the Orb. Who's the Orb, all their albums,
>etc.

The Orb was originally Alex Patterson, but has been joined by Thrash
(?).  They're a sample band producing (I prefer not to use the word
composing) ambient house, break-beat type stuff which can be very good
at times.  Albums are the double CD "Orbs adventures beyond the
Ultraworld", "The Aubrey mixes" (basically mixed versions of
Ultraworld), "Blue Room" (their latest and most ambient) and more
recently a video with a limited edition CD of some live material.  

That's all I know....

Steven Collins


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From: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au (Jacques Blanc-Talon)
Subject: Re: Request: Review of Steve Roach's _At the World's Edge_ CD
Reply-To: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:48:05 GMT

In article <BsyJsq.DsG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, hhuynh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Insignificant self-proclaimed gOd of my own existence...) writes:
> 
> 	First correct me if the title is _At the World's Edge_.  
> I have read a few posts about this album, but I have not yet read anything
> definitive about it (perhaps I missed a few articles?). For those who
> have tried it, please express your OPINIONS about it, preferably
> comparing it to his previous works. For example, is it similar to
> _Dreamtime Return_, his other double CD? etc...
> 
> 	More questions: 
> I enjoyed _The Leaving Time_, the collaboration between Steve Roach and
> Michael Shrieve. Who is more responsible for the approach of this album?
> Is _Transfer Station Blue_ worthwhile (perhaps along the same line?). It
> features Klause Schulze and Shrieve, it must be a dynamite combination.
> Please comment...
> 						Hiep Huynh
>

  I have Transfer Station Blue, but not the other one - so I'm not the
right guy to comment their differences. I just want to say that I enjoyed
Shrieve and Schulze's, even if it's not a *great* album (I'm a fan of
Klaus Schulze, I have at least 35 records of him, and I saw him 3 times in concert).
  But, actually, I had that record during a bushwalk in Nepal, and I can affirm
that this music matches with himalayan mountains, the snow on the summits, etc ...
It's very different from the music we usually listen about these countries, as far
as Johannes Schmoelling's "White out" for Antartica is from musics usually dedicated
to north-south poles (as Vangelis'). And I am wondering if it might not due to 
the past of Shrieve (Santana's soul music) - may be it's just me ...
  Sorry for all this mess, just a few ideas I wanted to write !

Jacques Blanc-talon
*
Ps: "White out" is probably the best thing I've ever heard about arctic countries, (and I have 
a lot of things, including lap music) this is *art* and not easy-listening. Have you 
experienced the walk on the ice-pack ? Yes, it is exactly how he wrote it !
From: peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Peter Dubiel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Information on This Mortal Coil
Organization: Zone4
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 14:15:54 GMT

wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:

>    This Mortal Coil is a collaborative effort of a number of 4AD artists
>    and groups.  I know that members of the bands Colourbox, Dead Can Dance,
>    and the Cocteau (sp?) Twins, have all participated in This Mortal Coil's
>    release _It'll End In Tears_.  Other releases include _Blood_ and 
>    _Filagree & Shadow_.  If the latter two releases are as good as the for-
>    mer release (which I own) then the set would be an excellent one to own,
>    since I really enjoy the music from _It'll End In Tears_.

The only thing I have by This Mortal Coil (somewhere here, anyways) is Blood.
It's quite a good disc, with lots of assorted female vocals, ranging from
eerie slow alternative-type rock stuff to neo-classical arrangements (even
though you can tell the strings are synthesized). About my only problem with
it is that it doesn't have Lisa Gerrard's (Dead Can Dance) vocals on it, like
one or two of the others have (_Filagree and Shadow_?).
>
>    listen too.  Unfortunately, the releases are only available as imports.
>    They can be obtained consistantly from Tower Records for $23.99 or 
>    $24.99, and even at that price, I'd still consider them worth every
>    penny.

Especially _Blood_, which clocks in at 76+ minutes (originally a double LP).
I don't know about the other two, but _Blood_ was released domestically here,
because even the chains carried it for standard Canadian going price for CDs.
I;ve also seen it as an import, which seemed like a US import to me, since
it wasn't priced like a UK import (extravagantly). So _Blood_ might be 
domestic in the States.


     _/\     /\__Piotr F. Dubiel___peter@zone4.ocunix.on.ca__/\     /\_
        \_/\/                                                  \/\_/
From: irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Imports and other hard-to-find CDs
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:27:21 GMT
Organization: HMC Academic Computing Services
Originator: irilyth@fenris

In a prior article, I write:
> If you're looking for an imported or other hard-to-find CD, Ranjit
> Padmanabhan maintains a catalog of same for sale. His address is
> ranjit@synopsis.com; send him mail asking him for his catalog if you're

In a later article, Steve Snyder (ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov) asks:
> Is there a better address? I tried this and got my message returned
> "HOST UNKNOWN".

Someone else sent me e-mail asking about this, so I figured I'd post. I
blindly copied the address from his catalog; when I checked my mail to him,
I found that I'd been sending it to ranjit@genesis.synopsis.com. Messages
I'd receivedfrom him also typically had a bang path in the header:
synopsys!genesis.Synopsys.COM!ranjit@fernwood.mpk.ca.us. Try
genesis.synopsis.com first--that's worked for me, and is the one I've used--
and use bangs if that doesn't work.

If neither works, send me e-mail and I'll forward on a letter. I suspect
that this is a result of my not paying attention, though. I don't know why
he advertises such a hard-to-reach address, though...
-- 
original text by Josh Smith    ::   Comments, questions, etc. welcomed
irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu   ::   #include <std.disclaimer>
"If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because maybe you'll
look like a dummy and people will try to catch you because, hey, free dummy."
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From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: The Orb
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:37:15 GMT


scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins) writes:
>I don't agree.  I love the Orb and also love TD but they are in a
>different class.  TD put MUCH more effort into the sound texturing.
>Dr Alex on the other hand depends entirely on samples a digital delay
>and tons of reverb.  There's no variation on this.

gee whiz.  i'd say TD put more effort into melody/composition whereas the
Orb are more interested in just "layering different sounds on top of each
other" (to cop a sample from "little fluffy clouds".)

>The Blue Room is so
>bloody ambient it gets annoying after a while.

eh?  what about all those great reggae bits?

i'm not interested in a TD vs Orb debate.  they both have their strengths.
(current TD is excluded from this discussion, of course.  they have no
strengths.)

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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From: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au (Jacques Blanc-Talon)
Subject: Re: Klaus Schulze Discography
Reply-To: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:27:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.150338.9990@spider.research.ptt.nl>, wammes@sun020.research.ptt.nl (Albert Wammes) writes:
> For those who don't wanna buy the booklet containing the
> discography of Klaus Schulze, here's the (complete) list 
> of his solo albums:
> 
> 1972 - Irrlicht
> 1973 - Cyborg
> 1973 - Picture Music
> 1974 - Black Dance
> 1975 - Timewind
> 1976 - Moondawn
> 1976 - Body Love
> 1977 - Mirage
> 1977 - Moogetique
> 1978 - X
> 1979 - Dune
> 1980 - Live
> 1980 - Dig It
> 1981 - Trancefer
> 1983 - Audentity
> 1984 - Angst
> 1985 - Interface
> 1986 - Dreams
> 1988 - En=Trance
> 1990 - Dresden Performance
> 1990 - Miditerranean Pads
> 1991 - Beyond Recall
> 
> | Albert Wammes								     |


  I think you forgot to mention:


  - Body Love II
  - Live
  - Live in Poland (I know, this record has been made with Rainer Bloss)
  - Drive Inn I (same remark as above)
  - Babel (with andreas Grosser)

  I know you specified "solo albums", but these 5 albums may be considered as
  Schulze's creations, with extra-musicians, which is not the case for example
  for "Aphrica: with Ernts Fuchs or Whanfried's.
  On the other hand, can you tell me which album is "Moogetique" ??

  Jacques Blanc-Talon
*

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From: wammes@sun020.research.ptt.nl (Albert Wammes)
Subject: Klaus Schulze Discography
Organization: PTT Research, Groningen, the Netherlands
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:03:38 GMT

For those who don't wanna buy the booklet containing the
discography of Klaus Schulze, here's the (complete) list 
of his solo albums:

1972 - Irrlicht
1973 - Cyborg
1973 - Picture Music
1974 - Black Dance
1975 - Timewind
1976 - Moondawn
1976 - Body Love
1977 - Mirage
1977 - Moogetique
1978 - X
1979 - Dune
1980 - Live
1980 - Dig It
1981 - Trancefer
1983 - Audentity
1984 - Angst
1985 - Interface
1986 - Dreams
1988 - En=Trance
1990 - Dresden Performance
1990 - Miditerranean Pads
1991 - Beyond Recall

My personal favorites include albums like:
   Picture Music, Moondawn, Moogetique, X, Dune, Live, 
   Dresden Performance and Beyond Recall.

The Timewind album was the album that made Klaus Schulze
popular among electronic music lovers in the 70-ties, but I
prefer the ones mentioned above. Iyears 80-85 Klaus Schulze
started to experiment with other kinds of electronic music,
none of those records are on my list of favorites. But Klaus
has returned to the 'right' tracks now and has been elected
best electronic artist in the 'Schwingungen Wahl 1991'. His
album Beyond Recall made the fifth place in the best record list.
Schwingungen is a german radio program, dedicated to electronic
music.

More information on Klaus Schulze (and other electronic musicians
and music) can be read in a magazine which appears every 2 months.
Unfortunately the magazine is in dutch. Those interested can 
contact me or:

   KLEM (= Klub Liefhebbers Electronische Muziek,
         = Club for Electronic Music Lovers)
   Amstelsingel 7
   4105 GZ Culemborg
   The Netherlands


Happy electronic music listening, Albert

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