From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: Giants 13  Bengals 7
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:04:08 GMT

In article <1037@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons) writes:
>In article <20345@optima.cs.arizona.edu> (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
>>
>>It was a pitiful performance by the Giants.
>
>IMO, not pitiful. Revealing, but not disastrous.
>
I blame most of the problem on the make shift offenseive line.

>Forget the score. It doesn't mean a thing. Despite what the 58,000+
>"non-season-ticket-holders-let's-bring-the-kids-and-where's-the-popcorn-stand-wh
>o-are-the-Giants-playing?-let's-do-the-wave" people thought, pre-season is for
Whoa there Larry those people in the stands are seasoon tickets holders. Us
mortals are'nt allowed to buy preason tickets anymore remember 8{D.
Anyway, the reaction throughout the game was about "right" for the season
tickets holders anyway(IMO).

>Anyway, how were the new Giants?
>
>Hamilton looked good on pass rushing, but against the run he spent a lot of
>time on his back. Parker (strength coach) said that Hamilton is "soft" and
>after a year in the weight room, he will be different. Encouraging.
He remind me alot of a young Leonard Marshall.

>Rooks and Dillard (especially Rooks - a 10th round pick) looked good at nose
>tackle. Maybe this will get Howard back in camp.
Although Rooks looked good in the game I saw some instances where his "Two-Gap"
technique needs work, if he wants to challenge Howard for the starting position
a couple years down the road.

>Derek Brown was a non-entity. I thought with Simms in, we would see at least
>one pass in the seam. Nope. Ditto for Pierce.
Larry, I disagree here with you on the TE. Most of (at least from what I saw)
their (Brown & Pierce) responsibility were Blocking (from the strong side), 
and the did very good moving there man off the line. If you remember they 
were in when Tillman was the running back. From what I saw on the tape of 
the game they (rookie TE) were at least 2-3 yards down field at the end 
of the run (remember most of the runs were off tackle or to Reasonburgs side).

>At WR, Smith looked good in catching the ball and in kick-off returns. Calloway
>may be catching everything in practice, but he dropped two catchable passes.
>(McCaffrey was injured on the opening kick-off & did not return)
Smith looked like the speed deamon we were looking for the opposing DB's
honest (even Steven Baker looks a little faster).

>Sparks was not tested at all at CB. Played well on covering punts with
>Thompson.
And to think he just return to practice from a pull Butt muscle a few days 
before.

>Corey Miller played extremely well - even against the Bengal's first-string. He
>seems to have made the transition from ILB to OLB in Banks' absence. IMO, he
>will start opposite Taylor.
>
>Reynolds is challenging Reasons and DeOssie for the last ILB position with
>Pepper. Since Rust is the new defensive coordinator, Reynolds may just get the
>job. At 6-5, 245lbs he is a big target in the middle.
>
>Who is this guy Jeff Novak? He played a lot at LT with the first-string. He's a
>6-6, 300lb tackle walk-on from SW Texas State. Giants may just keep this guy.
>
The GIANTS seems to have some quality young Deffensive players who will end
up on the practice squad or IR.

>Go Giants!
>---
			RIC. IRVIN
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