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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:55:43 CST
From:         Chris Barnes <CBARNES@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Ascii Dictionary Needed

On Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:49:44 CST Mike Oswald said:
>Help!  Anyone know whether there is an ASCII Dictionary available?  The
>random passwords that I generated won't fly with our customers.  They
>have complained about how hard it is to remember them (eg. EB4335).  I know,
>you would think they could change it, right?  What a pain!
>
>So what I'm left with is trying to locate an ascii dictionary or some source
>that will allow me to extract or print to a file a large number of common
>words.
>
>Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.

.soapbox on
Have them go out and buy copies of the book _The Cuckoo's Egg_ . It
speaks of all the ills of passwords found in a dictionary (besides
being a fun book to read).  JUST SAY NO.
.soapbox off

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From:         Yvonne Looney <YLOONEY@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Savanna Georgia
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I would like more information on the St. Patrick's day celebration.
Is there anyone out there who could help me?
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:11:38 TUR
From:         "Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian" <MFRY@BROOK.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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In my example I meant to say if you fly from the East Coast to LA.
Sorry for the confusion.  By the way, if you can get your hands on last
Sundays New York Times travel section there is a good article explaining
how the segment promotion works for each airline.

Mary Fry
The Brookings Institution Library
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 09:39:36 EST
From:         Craig Rosenberg <CRAIG@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: turkey tv show
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On Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:17:14 EST <HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX> said:
>some time ago a message was sent about a TV program about
>Turkey that was supposed to be on WWOR-TV in NYC on January 21.
>
>it was not on at that time ... perhaps someone might be able
>to provide better information as to when it might air?
>
>
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I forget what channel it was on, but I saw this the other night , sometime this
week. It was very interesting, sure looks like a nice play to go.
  Trouble is with the camel races, if you get parked outside, you go ten wide.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:06:00 EST
From:         Craig Rosenberg <CRAIG@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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              21 Jan 93 11:28:00 CST from <MZIOLKOWSKI@MEMSTVX1>

On Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:28:00 CST Mark Ziolkowski said:
>
>I heard a rumor earlier today that the airlines were about to engage in another
>fare war.  Is this true?  I spoke with my travel agent earlier and she hadn't
>heard anything about it, but she did mention some discount fares that will be
>ending today.  Unfortunately I can't plan my trip today.  The reason I'm asking
>about this is I have a friend who will be moving to Hawaii
> and has offerred me
>a place to stay anytime I want to visit and I'm looking for some way to reduce
>my costs.  Any ideas on how to do this or comments on the fare war rumor will
>be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>

It might be worth your while, to book a fare now, if you can, as they do
expire today, and ask the airlines what it would be tomorrow. You can always
re-book for a $25 penalty per ticket, but you would need to know the dates.
  I have not heard of any new airfare war.

>Mark Ziolkowski
>Tennessee Board of Regents
>(615) 366-4458
>
>
>Bitnet: MZIOLKOWSKI@MEMSTVX1
>Internet: MZIOLKOWSKI@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU
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subject line.

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:53:09 CST
From:         Marcia Smith <C39004MS@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject:      courier flights to Europe
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Hello!  I'm new to this list, and would like information
regarding courier flights to Europe.  Does anyone have experience
with them, or know who I should contact for more information?

Thanks!

Marcia Smith
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:41:00 -0500
From:         Craig Williams <cccbbs!craig.williams@UCENG.UC.EDU>
Subject:      RAILROAD
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DSD<>  The last two times I have traveled from E.Lansing, MI to Philadelphia,PA
    >have flown.  Once they lost my luggage, and the other time snow forced me
    >take an airport shuttle from Detroit to E.Lansing.  I am debating whether
    >not to make the next trip by train.  I am leaving E.Lansing the first week
    >March so I have to decide soon.
    >  I have never traveled by train before, and I was wondering what it would
    >like.  On a trip of this distance, will I get a room, if so does it cost m
    >Also is there anything to do on the train besides sit there for what will
    >probably be over ten hours.  If anybody has traveled by train and has anyt
    >to say, I would greatly appreciate it.


Derek,

For details call Amtrak at 800-USA-RAIL.  I've found that enjoyment of
rail travel depends a lot on the individual.  I enjoy it.  The basic
rate is for a large, roomy coach seat.  With luck, you'll have the seat
next to you vacant.  If not, your impression of rail travel could be
associated with your seatmate's personality.  Rooms cost more--about
equal to the cost of the initial coach seat.  With a roomette or
slumbercoach (the two cheapest forms of private accomodations), air
travel will be much cheaper.  Although with the roomette, you do get
free meals and other features.  If only a 10 hour trip, I'd recommend
going coach.

What to do for over 10 hours?  My favorite pastime is watching the
countrside go by.  You can also wander to the lounge car (the only car
that has a smoking section) for a snack or drink.  Meals, especially
breakfast and sometimes dinner, are quite nice and not outrageous.

If you do decide to travel coach, TAKE a blanket or sleeping bag.
AMTRAK will give you a pillow, but if you get cold (you will), they sell
blankets in the lounge car.

Also, be aware that AMTRAK travel west of the Mississippi always gets
better reviews than travel in the east.  You will be attempting a trip
over some of the less desirable areas.

Round trips are cheaper than two one-ways.  They also have air/rail
combos (air one way, rail the other) that would give you a taste of rail
travel at a discount without committing to a round trip rail tour.  If I
were you, I'd go for it, even without your previous hassles with the
airlines.

        Craig Williams
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:14:48 TUR
From:         "Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian" <MFRY@BROOK.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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I too read something about America West reducing their fares by up to 30%
through sometime in February.  I think the other airlines have decided to
match only where they are directly competing.  I am not sure if the sale
fares were ever good for travel to Hawaii.  I have also heard that
Northwest has or will eliminate the family/group discounts.  It was too
open for abuse and travel agents did not like it.  Every major airline is
offering segment promotions.  TWA's is the best (if they don't go under)
because they give you bonus miles that can be used at any time, not just
this fall.  Also if you rack up enough miles you can go to Europe.

Mary Fry
The Brookings Institution Library

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:30:33 EST
From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Turkey TV show posting
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not only was the show not on TV at the posted time but messages
to the original poster: TRKNWS-L@EARN.USCVM (either with or
without a .BITNET) could not get through ... nor could mail to
TRH@COM.SDS.JACK who reposted it ... anyone who can shed light on
either of these addresses or knows about the TRKNWS list please
let me know ... preferably by direct mail ... thanks muchos.

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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 93 13:46:06 PST
From:         Eric Fenster <efenster@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      OW Cleve => SF 23FEB $120
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Cleveland to San Francisco one-way (return portion of round trip)
on 23 February, non-stop.  Will sell for $120.
Eric
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 93 07:36:31 TUR
From:         WIDDKB85@SNYONEVA.BITNET
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Can some one help me get off this list, my college computer center is making
me sign off the vast majority of my lists because of space constraints.
Thank you Kathleen B. Widden <WIDDKB85@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU>
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From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Re:      RE: Interhome question
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:43:57 GMT

In article <930126151529.4eee@VAX.LIBRARY.UTORONTO.CA> GLIDDEN@VAX.LIBRARY.UTORONTO.CA writes:
>Mary, you could try a travel bookstore to locate a book put out by
>the French travel bureau called Logis de France.  It lists small
>one and two star hotels that fall under the auspices of this quasi-
>governmental agency.  

I've been very happy with hotels (especially two-star hotels) affiliated with
LF.  They have a great deal of charm and often have good restaurants associated
with them.  Two that stand out are the Hotel Gutenberg in Strassbourg
(Rue des Serruriers), and a really nice hotel in the little town of La Petite
Pierre (also in Alsace) whose name escapes me at the moment.  The letters LF
next to a hotel in a guidebook are reason enough for me to give the hotel a
try.

Wayne

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 93 11:01:23 CST
From:         Marcia Smith <C39004MS@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      shipping cars to Europe
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Hello again, and thanks Simon for the information on courier flights.
I have another question--does anybody have any infromation about
shipping cars from the United States to Europe?  How much, from
where, is it worth it?

Thanks, Marcia
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 93 09:39:00 EST
From:         VLDAUGHE@OWUCOMCN.BITNET
Subject:      Vienna
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  My husband and I might be going to Europe next Christmas and we would
  like to be in Vienna on New Year's for the Concert given each New
  Year's (day or eye???) by the Vienna Symphony Orchestra.  This concert
  is shown each New Year's Day evening on the educational channel
  (OSU, ch 34 in Columbus).  Recordings are also available each year.
  The music is wonderful and we would like to "be there."  Has anyone
  ever been there and/or know how to get tickets?  Must you be really
  dressed-up?  How dressed-up???  Any other information about this
  would certainly be appreciated.

  I've not been to this part of Europe, so any other information would
  be appreciated.  What's the weather like this time of year?  What's
  the best place to be at Christmas?  Paris???  Germany???  Vienna????
  I do have friends all over Europe, so could be about any place, but
  don't know about Vienna.  We could go there before Christmas and might
  be able to stay until the second week in January.

  Thanks for any information.


  Virginia Daugherty
  Modern Foreign Languages
  Delaware, OH  43015

  614-368-3667
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 00:32:00 TUR
From:         "Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian" <MFRY@BROOK.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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Craig,

Do you mean American will give you the normal frequent flyer miles, i.e
the miles you actually fly and a free trip if you fly eight segments?
That is what I believe to be true.  But TWA is giving you the actual
miles flown PLUS a 10,000 mile bonus for each 4 segments.  So if you fly 4
segments on TWA you get 10,000 extra miles, if you only fly 4 segments on
American you get nothing except the miles you actually fly.  This can get
rather confusing.  I'm glad I'm not a travel agent!

Mary
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I do most of my flying on NW.  Their standard bump vouchers used to be
tickets on which reservations could only be made 24 or 48 hours in advance.
Since I lived in St. Paul that wasn't too much of a problem.  One day, though,
they did cancel the flight that I had reserved using such a voucher.  They
protected me with a later flight, but that wouldn't work; it was a one day
out and back to see a dying relative in the hospital.  I explained my problem
and they took care of a ticket on another carrier so I could make it work.
That did endear me to them.

Now NW issues $300 transportation checks good on any ticket within a year.
So, there are no problems with blackouts or standby or anything.  The
check can be applied to any ticket, at any fair.  Although the cash value is
a bit less, the flexibility is great.  I love to be bumped by NW.

Tom
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 09:43:06 CET
From:         "Hans Martin Steiner +39 6" <HSTEINER@ESRIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Vienna and Salzburg
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There are no dedicated tributes to Mozart neither in Vienna nor in Salzburg.
However in Salzburg twice a year there are the Music Festivals.
In 1993: 3.-12.4.1993 Easter Festival
         in August Summer Festival
Usually there is always something of Mozart in the programme.
The same is true for Vienna. You will always find a concert with music of
Mozatt in Vienna.

Accomodation Salzburg: Pension Katrin
                       Nonntaler Str. 49b
                       A-5020 Salzburg

                       Price ATS 1000.- incl. breakfast ($85.-) double bed

Accomodation Vienna:   Pension Lerner
                       Wipplingerstr.
                       1010 Vienna
                       Price ATS 600.-- ($ 50.--)
Hans
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 93 09:19:10 EST
From:         Craig Rosenberg <CRAIG@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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On Tue, 26 Jan 93 00:32:00 TUR Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian said:
>Craig,
>
>Do you mean American will give you the normal frequent flyer miles, i.e
>the miles you actually fly and a free trip if you fly eight segments?
>That is what I believe to be true.  But TWA is giving you the actual
>miles flown PLUS a 10,000 mile bonus for each 4 segments.  So if you fly 4
>segments on TWA you get 10,000 extra miles, if you only fly 4 segments on
>American you get nothing except the miles you actually fly.  This can get
>rather confusing.  I'm glad I'm not a travel agent!
>
>Mary
>
>


Mary,
   You are right. If you fly 4 segments you get nothing, but the miles, 8 you
get the miles plus the free trip. Last winter, they had same promotion, which
I was unaware of. My wife flew 7 segments, we flew non-stop back one time, and
did not qualify. So, I wanted to know each detail so I would not get burned
again.
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Date:         Fri, 29 Jan 93 00:29:08 TUR
From:         "James A. Schaefer" <FACSCHAEFER@RIC.EDU>
Subject:      Oregon Trail
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This summer the 150th anniversary of the Oregon Trail is being celebrated
by several western states with special events.  I have called for information
from most of them but want to know if anyone knows of a list discussing
the Oregon Trail in particular and life in the developing west in the 1800s.

I want to travel out there this summer and might get all the information I
want from travel-l@trearn but an curious if a specialized list exists for
this topic.  I don't have the facilities or support to start a list here.

Thanks.
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From:         "J.P. McCauley" <MCCAULEY@SJUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ARUBA Trip
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

I went to Aruba this April past, and I had a groovy time.  You can expect
lots o' sun, sand and wind.  Although I had read that Jackets and ties
were required in some establishments, my shorts and T-shirt were never
turned away; even at casinos and nice resturants.  Things cost about
the same as they do here (here being New York).  Unfortunately, I do
not know about the gyms.  If you want more info, feel free to contact me.


J.P. <MCCAULEY@SJUVM>
From: hzuzan@sgi1 (Harry Zuzan)
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Subject: Portugal???
Date: 25 Jan 1993 13:53:15 GMT
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     My fiancee and I are planning to honeymoon in Portugal.  We 
are both students so we are looking for a way to get there have
a great time for two or three weeks and get back having spent no 
more than $3000.  We will be getting married early in September.

     We would prefer not to stay in large hotels.  If you have
any advice, suggestions or connections please forward them to us
by email.

     Your help is much appreciated.

     Harry Zuzan
     Oakville, Ontario

     hzuzan@sgi1.mathstat.uoguelph.ca
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From:         HAMILTONL@CITADEL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Atlanta
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I hear the farmer's market at Five Points is fantastic.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:45:12 EST
From:         Craig Rosenberg <CRAIG@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fare Wars
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On Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:09:25 TUR Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian said:
>While it is true that bonus miles (like triple miles promotions) can be
>used at any time the current segment promotions for all airlines except TWA
>DO NOT give you bonus miles.  You receive one free round trip in the U.S.
>and maybe the Carribean if you fly eight segments.  You must use your free
>ticket between September and December of this year (I assume Thanksgiving
>and Christmas are blacked out).  TWA gives 10,000 miles for four segments,
>so it would take eight segments to get a free trip in the U.S.  But you can
>add these miles to any miles you already have and go elsewhere.  And of
>course you also get the actual miles for your flight.  So if you flew to LA
>and stopped over in St. Louis you would get 10,000 bonus miles and about
>5,000 actual miles.  You must make sure you have two different flight
>numbers.
>
>Mary Fry
>The Brookings Institution Library
>
>
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Mary, Just for the record I checked with my airline AMERICAN , after reading
  this posting again, and they do GIVE BOTH,,, the miles, and the free
  tickets , not an either/or. So, just for the record...

Craig Rosenberg
> SUNY Computing
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 93 10:29:20 EST
From:         Rosemary Cullen <AP201034@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: San Antonio
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Definitely go to La Margarita for the obvious sort of drink and their fajitas.
 It's very crowded in the evening, but it's fun.  It's in the Mercado area, whe
re everybody goes at least once.  There's another restaurant  in the same area,
 a little farther down from La Margarita, which is also good.  Last time I was
there it was Super Bowl Sunday, and the bar (in a sort of cage) was very crowde
d, but the restaurant (can't remember name) is quite large and they have a take
 out bakery.  It's very well known, and I'm sorry I can't remember the name.

Rosemary Cullen, Brown University
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