From: adis@adis.msk.su ( )
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: FOR ALL, WHO TAKE INTEREST IN MOTORCYCLES DNEPR-11/16
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 01:00:07 -0500
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Organization: KIAE
Reply-To: adis@adis.msk.su

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MsgID: SCHs01105-21217ne0.HAV/131
 From: Andrey Shitikov <@KI.SHAV>
  Org: KIEV
 Lang: ENG.


         "  MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE MOTORCYCLES "DNEPR-11/16"... "

1. Both motorcycles DNEPR-11 and DNEPR-16 have the same engine, rear wheel
cardan drive, 4 forward speeds one reverse.
2. The difference between two base models of motorcycles with sidecar DNEPR-11
 & 16 is that DNEPR-16 has a sidecar wheel drive, owing to this its cross-
country capability is higher and speed is somewhat lower. The engine is
produced for low-octan A-76 and high-octane A-93 petrol. Now there is new
experimental engine with Maximum power (HP) 50.
3. There are two conveyers at at the plant, DNEPR-11 & 16 are assembled at
both of them, but one conveyer (70000 - 100000 a year) works for the Soviet
market and at and at the second (3000 a year) DNEPR-11/16 are assembled
specially for export to the Western countries.
  The exported motorcycles differ from the "Soviet" ones in the following:
- there is a special antirust coating
- chromium-plated wheels and visible parts
- high quality of engine assemblage from specially selected parts
- motorcycles are painted with Finnish, not Soviet paint
- motorcycles are packed into special cotainers - wooden cases, gross weight
  of a packed motorcycle is 620 kg (DNEPR-16) & 600 kg (DNEPR-11), net weight
355 - 330 kg. The size of the case: 228cm x 172cm x 110cm, V=4,255 m3.

   SHORTCOMINGS OF MOTORCYCLES
 - A basic shortcoming of motorcycles (both exported and Soviet) is a not
   high guality of carburettors (they are made in Russian). When they are
   replaced with BING or MENON carburettors fuel consumption per 100 km
   very decreases.
 - There is no electronic ignition system.
   the foreign buying companies (GERMANY, GREAT BTITAIN,DENMARK, ...), if
   necessary, make replacement of carburettors themselves, change the
   colouring at the desire of buyers.

   THERE ARE NO BANS OR RESTRICTIONS ON EXPORT, CUSTOM DUTY is 0,05 % of
the contract value in USD and 0,1 % in Ukranian Roubles when exporting
from Ukraine.

   TECHNICAL SUPPORT
The guaranteed delivery of spare parts, help in repair and organizing
service centres etc. may be stipulated when concluding a contract.
There is no problem. The guarantee is valid for 6 months. The Guarantee
set of parts is delivered by the plant free of charge.

   PRICES (in USD)
The prices, given in my first letter, concerned the export version of
motorcycles. Dnepr-11:1650 USD, DNEPR-16: 1850 USD.
For the Soviet version of motorcycles the price may be; Dnepr-11 - 700 USD
DNEPR-16 - 800 USD. They are not delivered to the market of the West.
As a rule there is no wholesale discount, but discount of 5% is possible
if the buyer undertakes a guarantee engagements - all buyers gone on it.

   DELIVERY
The plant supplies motorcycles to foreign companies on terms "EX WORKS".
But motorcycles can also be transported to the ports of ODESSA, ILYICHEVSK
(the BLACK SEA), or LENINGRAD (the BALTIC SEA) and there loaded on to the ship.
The payment for carriage by rail to the port and load on to the ship is not
great, e.g. now the payment for carriage by rail to the port of LENINGRAD
evaluated in USD near 25 for 1 motorcycle, ODESSA USD  20 ditto.
  In a sea 40' container there is room for 12 motorcycles placed in 2 tiers.
1. It is possible to deliever motorcycles to the U.S.A. from exUSSR by
   vessels, line Sankt-Peterburg(exLENINGRAD) - Canada, through the Balt-Canada
   company.
2. But the best and cheapest way is to apply to your carriers, whose ships
   call at the ports of Ukraine (Odessa, Ilyichevsk).
3. Delivery from Ukraine to Hamburg (Germany).
   Cost of delivery of 12 motorcycles from Ukraine by motor transport is about
   5.000 DM. Further the carriage is by sea on line HAMBURG - the U.S.A.
 American importers used 2 and 3 ways.

  U.S. MARKET
In 1992 the plant has concluded three contracts (two of them in November)
for delivery of motorcycles DNEPR-11/16 to the U.S.A. But the quantities
are small, 6 to 30 pcs. One of the companies tries to get an exclusive
right on the U.S. market (under contract 5000 pcs) but for the present
without success.

  In our opinion the motorcycles DNEPR is not last word in motorcycle construc-
tion but have great  endurance and reability, have the chances on the markets
Central and Latin America, Africa, Near East, and perhaps,  of the central
states of the U.S.A. (for example, technical museums, clubs, - I joke)

   R E M A R K
 Any words about myself. I am professional programmer, graduated  nuclear
university (MIFI) in Moskow (1980).
 I'm not  emploee of the Kievs motorcycle plant. I am department chief
of the big private trading company "RALEX" in KIEV (capital of the Ukraine),
but I personally have very good direct business communications in this plant.
We have many stores, cars, fur hats shop, flowers shop, sell different goods,
sell motorcycles "DNEPR-11/16" on the Soviet market  and abroad. Moreover, I
may help you to contact with the different other motorcycle plants exUSSR (trade
mark "URAL"(havy), "IZG"(middle), "COVROVETCH"(easy), and with not only motor-
cycles plant - business relationship in different areas exUSSR.

  But I must warn you of a specific soviet dangers and problems:             
- there are many fools, bribery, dishonourables, deceivers and not essentials
  bureaucrats (Kiev motorcycle plant isn't exception).                       
  But don't be frightened! I can help you save your money, time and nerves ! 

 I am really interested in business cooperation, we may help you to make some
purpurchases of the profitable estate, sell your goods, and/or organize joint
venture.
We can open all doors on the  exSoviet market for you. Together we can do more!!

  I WAIT FOR YOUR REPLAY.
  E-MAIL ADDRESS IN MOSKOW  adis@adis.msk.su
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  Please add in subject "FOR KI SHAV"
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  POST ADDRESS: ANDREY SHITIKOV BOX 93, KIEV-108, 254108 UKRAINE
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  TEL IN KIEV (044) 434-89-67, Tel/fax 434-88-06



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