HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (james.w.lacey)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: the Great War
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:55:52 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <9211091320.AA29491@merlin.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Gordon.Riddell@prg.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>
>Peeve : Rememberance Sunday
>
>On the 11th day of the 11 month at 11am the yookay goes quiet as we all
>remember our gallant war dead from this century. (11th November 1918 at 11am
>being the time the Great War descended into a ceasefire.)
>...
>I couldn't think of one film relating to the Great War featuring the likes
>of John Wayne or Kirk Douglas. Now this may be because there is little
>interest in the USA in the Great War (even though they won it for us)
>but I would bet it's more to do with weight of depressing material to
>work with.
>...

"Sergeant York" staring Gary Cooper was probably the best.
It was based on a real person (York) who captured about
a million Germans and won the Medal of Honor.

-- 
     Jim Lacey  --  my own opinions    
     email:  att!cbnewsl!jlacey  or  jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
     D'ou venons-nous? Que sommes-nous? Ou allons-nous?
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: Re: Unbearable Lightness of California
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:54:18 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

In article <17870@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:


>All the glare from reflected sun makes for very contrasty photos. Filters
>screw up things too much for me, so I only have a clear filter on my
>lens to keep crud off it.

Ah - there is something you can do: get a polarizing filter.  The clear
filter you have is probably a UV filter which, in addition to protecting
the lens, does cut down UV light (which film is sensitive to).  Anyway,
the polarizing filter acts just like Polaroid (tm) sunglasses in that it
blocks reflected light (you can rotate the filter for best results).  With
a polarizing filter you can eliminate reflections and glare from windows,
shiny metal objects, and water.

>California photographers
>all have to carry light meters and do a lot of fiddling and worry to
>keep from getting that pisshole in the snow look when taking pictures
>of people outside.
>
>Peeve: I don't have a light meter.

Since a lot of cameras do have built-in meters, I'm wondering if the
people you're seeing are professionals (in the very real sense) who
have to be super-correct in their exposure.  For 90% of the stuff that
amateurs and the "snapshot crowd" do, a built-in center-weighted meter
is fine.  The "pisshole in the snow" look is caused by the background
being much brighter than your subject.  Although a spot metering system
(or a separate meter) is best for handling this, any camera with a meter
can be used if you first walk up to your subject, take a reading, then hold
or reset to that reading when walking back to your original position.

>Peeve: Developing film is dull, but I have two rolls I have to do
>myself because I overexposed them and a camera shop is not going
>to go through the effort of compensating for it.

Screw them and go somewhere else!  Even the economy 1-hour print-it shops
here will compensate for that.  Just tell them you shot your ASA 400 film
at ASA 100 (or whatever it was).  What they have to do to compensate is
trivial.

>Peeve: the more I learn about photography, the dumber I feel.

Nah, you're learning, right?

>!Peeve: Printing is fun, even when it comes out looking dreadful.

True.  Seeing that image appear is pure magic.  Not only that, when you
print your own stuff, it makes you a better photographer.

Peeve: the days of the all-manual cameras are gone.  It's a kick to look
at back issues of Popular Photography and read ads about the Voigtlander
Bessamatic, the Alpa (a dog to be sure), and the Canon Pellix.

-Dave

ObCamera: Leica M3 double-stroke with collapsable f/2 Summicron lens


Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: the Devil's Day (and the Devil's Night)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 15:07:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov5.103620.8644@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Halifax has more bars per capita than any other place in North America and
>our reputation as a party town is second only to Montreal's.

Yes, well, what else is there to do? French kiss a cod?

>My friends and I hit downtown. I wasn't planning to go, so I hadn't dressed
>up. As a last second thing I broke open one of those GLO STICKS and war 
>painted my face and hands. I figured I could claim I was a replicant from 
>Bladerunner (remember Pris?)

I was going to flame you for such a pathetic attempt, but I left
my costume plans until too late, and ended up writing 668 on my 
forehead with eyeliner. "The neighbhor of the beast" I had a
great patter about how I took care of the beast's dogs whilst
He was on vacation.

>Next year, my friends and I are going to the Mardi Gras as characters from 
>Revalations. I can hardly wait.

Next year, I'm trying to get three more people together to go as 
"The four care-bears of the apocalypse". Should be fun.

Regards, Charles

Ps, there is no peeve. Sorry. Maybe next time.
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Space Age Outerwear and a challenge
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:53:48 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <BxJILA.DEq@news.iastate.edu>, z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian) writes:
> In article <1992Nov10.185416.8768@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
> 
>>Oh, and one other thing, Cutris. I hereby challenge you to a GIF contest.
>>If you are the fashion plate you think you are, let's see you put your money
>>where your posts are. One GIF each, judged by an impartial panel of two 
>>people appointed by you and two by me. Mail me if you are man enough to pick 
>>up the gauntlet, and stylish enough to make it look good.
> 
> 	I can't tell whether the best parts of Mike's genetic material were
> stopped by a sheet, or if this is a typo.  

Call it a sacractic Freudian slip.

>Nevertheless, I hereby volunteer
> myself and Don Baldwin as the impartial judges.  Don is from California,
> the land of nuts and flakes, while I am from Iowa, the land of the Carhart
> coveralls and plaid shirts.  As we've shown ourselves able to disagree
> and yet remain friends (the recent presidential election comes to mind),
> I think we are two of the most diverse, yet impartial judges you could find.
>

Well, I was really hoping for a panel of female judges, since I'm not
too big on sending photos of myself to guys, but I'll agree to you two as 
judges on the condition that there are two women judges as well. In fact, I 
insist.

Any of the women of alt.peeves wanna jump right in? Jenny? Jenny? Jenni?
Booter? Carol? Catwoman? Anyone... Buller?

  
> 	We are also the most fucking understanding men on the face of this
> goddamned planet, in case anybody doubted this fact.  We'll even let our
> own Mayor, Geoff Miller, criticize our reasoning, which shall be by the
> alt.peeves standards of excellence and taste.  Do you both agree to the
> contest?  Mail Don and myself simultanously -- not doing so is grounds
> for giving the sole person you mailed a net.blowjob, as your intent
> was obviously to influence our decision.  Bribes accepted, cash preferred.
> 

I agree subject to my terms, upon which I am adamant. Curtis has yet to accept
or reject the offer officially. Curtis, my mailbox awaits your reply.


Mike
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: Blair.Haworth@launchpad.unc.edu (Blair Haworth)
Subject: Re: US Election Update
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:00:25 GMT

In article <1d7hpgINNjat@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu
(Curtis Yarvin) writes: 

>We now have a Senator by the name of "Lauch Faircloth."

Peeve: He's my Senator.  Actually, I don't seem to have a Senator just
now; he's Jesse Helms' senator.  I thought we were done with this sort of
thing after John East sucked gas.  The Congressional Club gargles rhino
feltch. 

!Peeve:  That's one less postcard I have to send when gun control
legislation comes up.
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Courier eeeeeeediot Peeve
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:00:39 GMT
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 8738@ac.dal.ca, 01sybok@ac.dal.ca (I'se the boy) writes:
> I guess maybe Berkeley is where parents send their putrid squalling
> offspring when they want to institutionalize them.

Just as Dalhousie is where Cape Bretoner married siblings send their
thumbless, malformed spawn.  A question, Mike: do you call her "Mom" or
"Auntie"?

> Just a notion.

Your "notion" of Halifax being the "second best party town in North
America" gives a useful yardstick for measuring your other assertions.
What's the third best, Mikey?  Pugwash?  It's generally agreed, by
people who've fled the place, that the most interesting (and best,
really) thing that's ever happened to Halifax was that WWII munitions
explosion.

---
Brian Scearce                                           bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
              The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
                  "You can't fit the truth on a t-shirt, man."
                                 "That'd fit."
From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Again
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:50:51 -0500
Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: cathy.na.cs.yale.edu
Summary: Hosers

(quoting from a local newsgroup)
>The forecasting model of Yale economics professor Ray Fair has been in
>the news for its rare failure in predicting the outcome of the 1992
>presidential election.

Since WHEN is it rare for academics to fail in predicting the real world?

Of course what is meant is that this man had a "model" that correctly
predicted most of the past election results in the United States.  Which
proves only one thing: that even an economist can predict the past.

I have seen how these models are created.  All of them should be treated
with extreme suspicion.  For instance the models that predict global warming.
The people that make them first come up with some notion about the basic
mechanics of the atmosphere.  This is expressed as a mathematical formula.
Then comes the interesting part.  They have to make this formula predict the
current temperature of the earth.  They print out a lot of numbers which
tell them where, and how badly, their formula is screwing up.  They tweak.
They fiddle.  They print out another load of numbers, or maybe they graph
them this time.  They tweak some more.  ("John, I think the cloud
coefficient for Northern Africa must be a little too high.  Let's change it
to .063.")

Then finally the model correctly predicts the present temperature.  The
intrepid researchers change the number for carbon dioxide, run their program
for the last time, and get a number, in degrees Centigrade, by which the
earth will on average warm up.

And perhaps the prediction is even correct.  Who knows?  They might have
gotten lucky.

--
Norman Yarvin						yarvin@cs.yale.edu
 "I don't practice what I preach, because I'm not the kind of person
  I'm preaching to." - J. R. "Bob" Dobbs.
From: bls101@deakin.anu.edu.au (The New, Improved Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Mikey's Jacket
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:38:52
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.15.26
In-reply-to: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM's message of 9 Nov 92 16:36:29 GMT

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) babbles:

   In article <1dkbrjINNkq4@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu 
   (Curtis Yarvin) writes:

   >There are two types of upper-body garments suited for extremely
   >cold weather:

   >(1) The "jacket."  This is made of garish nylon filled with
   >polyester or duck feathers.  It is worn exclusively by
   >two social classes: (a) children, and (b) snothead yuppies
   >who take ski vacations at Vail.

   >(2) The overcoat.  This is made of wool.  It is worn by decent
   >folk.

   [Geoff burbles on about the really neato parka, complete with Sun
    logo, with which he was issued.  What is happening to our Geoff?]

   My father, who was steeped in certain Eastern values during his childhood,
   takes issue with the fact that I often wear T-shirts even in winter.  I
   don't understand this, since the Big Picture is obvious: buildings are
   heated, so it doesn't matter what I wear indoors.  I could be stark nekkid 
   and I'd still be comfortable.  And when I go outside during cold weather, 
   I put on a jacket.  End of problem.

You'd go out into the freezing cold stark nekkid except for a parka?  That
would certainly help put an end to the excess testosterone problem on the
Net.

--
bls101@syseng.anu.edu.au
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've 
 never tried before." - Mae West
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,soc.singles,talk.politics.misc
From: smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith)
Subject: Re: Election Economics
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:32:11 GMT

In article <Bx8w7n.9yp@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.175930.15038@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>>julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:
>>] % We should develop anti-satellite weapons because we could not have 
>>] % prevailed without them in 'Red Storm Rising'.
>>] %        -- Vice President Dan Quayle
>>
>>Now Ask Yourself Julie,
>>Do you really think that A. Gore Will be able to
>>provide us with this Level Of Intellectual Stimulation?????
>
>Not to worry.  While dumb Veep jokes will soon be out, stiff Veep jokes will
>soon be in.  (I heard it on _The CBS Evening News_.)

	Nah, don't make fun of Al.  After all, it's not his fault that he 
married Tipper.

	Then again, maybe it is.

	Sean

-- 
Sean Smith - Dalhousie University               Bill and Opus in '92 in the US!
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada                    Don Cherry for Prime Minister in
01SSMITH@AC.DAL.CA or smith@ug.cs.dal.ca	'93 in Canada!
Disclaimer:  These ideas are mine...ALL MINE!!  'Cause noone else'd want 'em.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: Moose stuff (was Presidential weather)
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Footwear Fanatics
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:08:49 GMT



A. Jing Hippy (cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com) wrote:

	*I* have moose slippers!  

(Pete Young) writes: 

	Isn't it a little difficult to walk about in these? I mean, don't the
	antlers get in the way?

In article <1992Nov7.232511.26510@dg-rtp.dg.com>, A. Jing Hippy writes:

	Nah, ya just gotta know how to orient your legs.

Whassamatta, Jing? You fergit how? Izzat why yer laid up?

--
Nolan "Man enough to do woman's work" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"Anything that disorients you is good for you"  Tiny Doctor Tim
"Illiterati non Carborundum(tm)" Mise me fein
"Grab Dick and come on down"  Don Pette
"You can't combat illiteracy with soap" Jenny Gutbezahl, alt.peeves
"Boy, was I in for a dose of reality." Randall K. Abler
"... necrophilia doesn't really hurt anybody."  Rick Gordon
"Well, first of all, your stance is too wide"

Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.flame
From: williams@ug.cs.dal.ca (Nevin E. Williams)
Subject: Re: JENNY'S LESSON IN FLAMING (was Re: the Devil's Day (and the Devil's Night))
Keywords: I HATE CROSSPOSTERS
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:30:29 GMT

smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith) writes:
>	I've got an idea - let's take up a collection so Steve Franklin can get
>a real life - his seems to be broken.
>
>	Sean

Aw, don't get him started on his escapades at Jerry's Pub, and bodacious babes
from Berlin (or whereever).  One of these days, I'm gonna figure out his
claimed-lifestyle to characters typed in Usenet posts and IRC per week.  Then
I'll tabulate the number of words per minute he must type to have both his 
life and his posts.  The number should be interesting.  
Y'know, it's only a few more months before he starts taking classes again:
We'll be able to spy on him in B507 to see if he's actually typing all this
stuff in from heart, or getting it from a book. 
	Nevie
(above includes a grain of salt, Mr. Franklin, as does all our correspondance)
;)

| *---------*	I'm the same Ol' Nevin.  The only difference is that now  |
|  \       /	I'm  enjoying  my  life.  Is  this  such  a  bad  thing?  |
|   \     /	I didn't choose.    Who actually chooses to be opressed?  |
|    \   /	I  certainly  didn't  wish   to  make  my  life  harder.  |
|     \ /	But  I've  certainly  made  my  life  more   worthwhile.  |
|      *Nevin Williams      williams@ug.cs.dal.ca    Bitnet:nwilli@dalac  |
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Driving with Parking Lights!
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:49:05 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <OKES.92Nov5174034@SunLab42.essex.ac.uk> okes@essex.ac.uk (Simon Oke) writes:
~In article <1992Nov5.105227.26607@merlin.comlab.ox.ac.uk> library@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Riddell) writes:
~| But I suppose the news was snuffed out by the news that our wonderful
~| Government had decided that Colombian coal mined by children was better
~| than home produced stuff mined by Real Men(tm). And thus sack 30000 miners!
~|
~Get it right. The electricity generating companies decide that since they can
~get coal cheaper from other countries than British Coal produces it, they are
~going to make a sound business decision and buy foreign coal. The government,
~in charge of British Coal, realise that there is no way that they can possibly
~compete in the world coal market and are gradually getting rid of the industry
~altogether.

The above, of course, is absolute bollocks.

Peeve: that a subject can be discussed interminably on TV and in the
newspapers and there are STILL some dimbulbs who believe the first 
explanation they found in a christmas cracker (or, worse, they believed
Hezza).

ObServation: Why do all Tory ministers go to the same hairdresser? If they
have to go to the same hairdresser, why can't they choose one who knows
how to do something other than give old and ugly men, and Virginia
Bottomley (who I'm told is not a man) a silly load of hair at the front
that they are obliged to push into an improbable and structurally unsound
parting??


-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

~"I hope you realise that it's probably against the Computing Regulations
~ to do that." - M. Holmesatollah
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (!Dick Tuck)
Subject: Re: Presidential weather
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Anarchist's Party
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:28:57 GMT


In article <2x+qv9n@lynx.unm.edu>, baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin) writes:
[election drivia deleted]
|>Peeve: I lost the first election, so the country will just have to do
|>without President Baldwin.

Waitaminnit, Sonny! Sounds ta me like yer pullin' a Perot on us, backin' out
when things heat up a bit. Show a bit of Southwestern Gumption(tm) and stand
again next time on the same principles. Get deep into your county's central
committee. Show some grit.

--
Nolan "Man enough to do woman's work" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"Be careful,..., or I'll use a plunger on your face untul you burp shit."
   A. Banta, alt.peeves
"Anything that disorients you is good for you"  Tiny Doctor Tim
"Illiterati non Carborundum(tm)" Mise me fein
"Grab Dick and come on down"  Don Pette
"You can't combat illiteracy with soap" Jenny Gutbezahl, alt.peeves
"Boy, was I in for a dose of reality." Randall K. Abler
"... necrophilia doesn't really hurt anybody."  Rick Gordon
"Well, first of all, your stance is too wide"
From: cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: I've always been a .... (BDI)
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:10:42 GMT
Organization: A Suffusion of Yellow

In article <27731@castle.ed.ac.uk>, fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
|> 
|> Once they've pulled all these levers and switches they pull a giant
|> lever and all the votes go into the jungeda jungeda machine (and the
|> jackpot comes out if they win). 
|> 
|> Bewildering to your average yoosan? More than probably. Some of them
|> apparently take too long in there and so one state has limited them to
|> three and a half minutes each. 
|> 
|> Fortunately the technology has come to the rescue: There are two
|> "super-switches" in some places which will automatically set the levers
|> and switches all across the board to the Party line, be it elephant or
|> jackass. 
|> 
|> So there we have it. Voting without thinking. Soon they'll be able to
|> take the voter out of the loop entirely for a much more smoothrunning
|> democracy.

They separated the straight-party ticket from the presidential election.
Even if you wanted to vote straight-party (the ultimate cop-out), you *still*
had to vote for president.  There were signs at approximately 2-foot 
intervals all over the voting place informing you of this fact.  The ballot
reminded you of it.  It was in the papers and on the news for days in
advance. You *had* to cast at least two votes, one for president
and one for the party of your choice if you chose to go that route.

On election night, they did a series of interviews with people that not
only were so brain-dead that they voted straight party tickets, they didn't
realize that they had to vote for president as well and effectively threw
away their vote for president.

*That's* the intelligence level of the "super-switch" puller.

+--------------------------------------------------+
|Dave Cochran, Data General Corporation, RTP, NC   |
|cochran@dg-rtp.dg.com                             |
+--------------------------------------------------+
|I daydreamed that I was falling and, just before I|
|hit the ground, I fell asleep.                    |
+--------------------------------------------------+
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: sick and dying
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:03:53 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

OK, so I'm not really dying - I just want to... 

I get one cold a year, typically in the fall, and it's usually gone in
a couple of days and I'm effectively immune for the rest of the
fall/winter season.  Not this time.

My throat was a bit scratchy Saturday, but not enough to really bother
me.  Sunday morning I had to lay down in the shower, consumed by chest
racking coughs and spewing lumpy phlegm.  I thought that the aveoular
sacs in my lungs were coming up.  After a few minutes of that I was
weak as a limp dishtowel, and actually had to cancel a trip to the
shooting range later in the day.

It's been downhill since then.  Here I sit at home all week,
attempting to watch daytime TV (and losing 20 IQ points from the
attempt) but the real killer was the complete coverage of the
elections.  It's not so much that my boy lost, but that EVERY FUCKING
CHANNEL covered the elections.  Couldn't they roll dice and see who
gets it this time and let us sick folks get our daily dose of
_Gilligan's Island_?  Here I sit, coughing out my fucking lungs and
still I have to listen to the "pre-election day coverage", "election
'92 coverage" and the ever-popular "post election coverage".  When
will this crap end?

Further - whose idea was it to put modems all over the place at the
office so I'd feel responsible and call in?  Huh?  

Fuck it.  Tomorrow I'm going back to the office, and they're not going
to like it.  Russ is back, and he's pissed off.

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
Will hack unix for food
Newsgroups: alt.peeves