HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: New machine old printer.
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:18:55 GMT

murjb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Rick J. Bennett) writes:

>I am trying to connect a Tandy TL3 to a Tandy CGP220.  I heard there are
>softwares in the public domain sector that make this possible.  Does
>anyone know where I could get this?

If you have the copy of DOS that came with your TL/3 it'll have
drivers (LF.COM, LPDRVR.SYS, etc) for stripping the linefeeds. And
the version of Graphics.COM includes a CGP-220 mode.

But to use it with most programs is going to be a *real* bear. They
won't support it. 
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From: rcisnet2!color_galaxy_mw!cosmonaut
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: OCTUG
Keywords: (none)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 07:32:47 PST
Summary: (none)
Organization: The Rainbow Connection Information Service

For Tandy users in the Orange County area in Southern California, there is a
users group meeting on the 3rd Sunday of every month in Orange at the City
Mall.  Call Mike @ (714)545-1059 for more.  Look forward to OCTUG BBS running
StG on a 1M Tandy hd63B09EP based computer running a multi-tasking real-time
operating system.  Will have comp.sys.tandy plus Internet mail!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: gmr6139@ultb.isc.rit.edu (G.M. Richard)
Subject: Re: Another query (Re: Rainbow magazine status)
Originator: gmr6139@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:02:04 GMT

Rainbow magazine has gone out of print.  In it's place, the writers and
publishers started PCM, specifically for the Tandy 1000 series computer.
Although this still ls a magazine about Tandy machines, it does not have
any info in it about the Color Computers.


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From: cameronjames@finali.enet.dec.com (James Cameron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Disk I/O on the Model III
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:04:01 GMT
Reply-To: cameronjames@finali.enet.dec.com (James Cameron)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Limited A.C.N. 000 446 800


In article <92281.004414TRM900@psuvm.psu.edu>, TRM900@psuvm.psu.edu (Tony
R. Marasco) writes:
>Maybe I should re-word to request assembler to access the drives.  For
>instance, if I want to read track 17 sector 1, how do I do it?  Basically
>I want to create an unerase command for TRSDOS.  I have the hashing
>method as a subroutine, I just need the disk access...

Ahah!  Now I understand why you want to do it.  You have choices;

1.  Obtain the assembly language entry points for the primitive sector
    I/O routines in TRSDOS (I can supply those, or you can trace the
    existing functions until you get there; try turning on TRACE and
    watch it during a disk I/O, you'll get an idea where to look in
    memory for the code...),

2.  Find an UNERASE program on some of the bulletin boards or other
    resources that still support the TRS-80,

3.  Write your own disk drive interface routines; reinvent the wheel;
    go to the moon, that sort of thing, or;

4.  Don't delete files in the first place.  Only joking...

--
James Cameron
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Limited A.C.N. 000 446 800
(cameronjames@snoc01.enet.dec.com)
From: espt@gaea.es.flinders.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Another query (Re: Rainbow magazine status)
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:11:41 GMT
Reply-To: espt@es.flinders.edu.au
Organization: None
Originator: espt@gaea.es.flinders.edu.au

In article <933@ast.dsd.northrop.com> salerno@ast.dsd.northrop.com writes:
> In article <1992Sep24.152538.7737@ac.dal.ca> novanet@ac.dal.ca writes:
[deletions]
> > I am just curious about the latest status of the magazine.
[deletions]
> I do not think the Rainbow will be found on any newsstands
[etc]

I'm pretty sure the Rainbow is not distributed to US newsagencies any more,
but can somone tell me if they are being distributed to international
magazine suppliers (esp Australia)?

Peter Turner        <espt@es.flinders.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: Charlie Rosenberg <crosenberg@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:50 PDT
Subject: Model 2000 files on Compuserve
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1368600005:000:282
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!crosenberg    Oct 12 09:50:00 1992


In response to a question I asked about Model 2000 software,
it was suggested that I check out the TRS80PRO forum on 
Compuserve.  Library 9 there has 384 files specific to the 
2000.  If anyone wants to see a file list, I would be happy
to send you one.  Please respond by email.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: n36ia@pnet16.cts.com (Et3 Francis)
Subject: What is FAR Memory
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:55:56 GMT

Please help me with a problem I have with my computer. I was loading a game
the other day and I noticed that the computer complained about a lack of far
memory in the system. I have looked everywhere I could for information on FAR
memory and haven't found anything yet. Please help!!!
(oh, by the way, it is NOT the memory on the other side of the computer from
the NEAR memory...At least I don't think it is   :')
                                Brian

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: sscrivan@nyx.cs.du.edu (steve scrivano)
Subject: Xenix question
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:27:00 GMT

Does anyone know what the purpose of csh10 is opposed to just csh.  These
commands are located in the "bin" directory on the Xenix system.  I have
docs for csh but not the other.

Steve Scrivano
sscrivan@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Subject: Re: Hard Drive for Tandy 1000 RL..info needed
Keywords: What do I need
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:15:00 GMT

judy@disk.uucp (Judy Meredith) writes:

>As stated above I have a Tandy 1000 RL. It has just one 3 1/2 floppy
>drive for now. I would like to get a Hard Drive for this. I have talked
>to Radio Shack and cannot affor their price for such. Would someone please
>tell me what type of Hard Drive I need for this computer? And should I try for a internal or external ? I have no idea as to where to begin...so I would appreciate any and all advice I can get on this.

You need an XT IDE drive. NOT an *AT* IDE drive. Last time I looked, the 
most you could save, even mail order was $70 or so over Tandy. (mail order
40 meg was $279, Tandy was $349). 

Check PCM magazine for ads.

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Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: robb@mentorg.com (Rob Bartel)
Subject: Re: docs on DFI?
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 21:08:23 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Neal Becker (neal@ctd.comsat.com) wrote:
: I have to port dfi aps I wrote on version 7 to version 8.  Where can I
: find docs on version 8 DFI stuff?  How compatible is the interface?
: 
: Thanks.

We tried pretty hard to make DFI link-compatible with pre 8.0 binaries,
so you shouldn't expect too much problem.

In my opinion the Inform system is the best place to get any documentation
on the MG system. I REALLY like that stuff, at least compared to paper!

But then, that may say more about me than it does about Inform.

--
       Rob Bartel -- Mentor Graphics Corp.  rob_bartel@mentorg.com
*** These thoughts are my own and should in no way be construed to be
*** related to Mentor Graphics thoughts in any useful way
From: rauletta@sitevax.gmu.edu (R. J. Auletta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: Re: GDT HP Plotting
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:42:55 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering

In article <1992Oct14.162338.11698@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> rauletta@sitevax.gmu.edu (R. J. Auletta) writes:
>
>We are trying to plot gdt layouts on an HP7580 plotter.
>
>Unfortuntely, cifp complains about no top level cell when
>we try to generate the hpgl from a gdt generated cif file.

This is the case. While the gdt cif utility creates descriptions
of each cell, it does not call any cell.

Edit the "file.cif" generated by GDT and add the CIF command to call
the last cell, by its cell number at the end of the file, but before the
END declaration.

The following illustrates the tail of the file and what to add.


      ( CIF cell "9" was L cell "chip" );
      Definition Start 9 50 1;
      C 8;
      Definition Finish;
      
      (Add the following to call the "chip")
      C 9;

      End

>
>Any suggestions? Is it how we generate the cif from gdt? The cif
>generated by gdt?  Does flea handle this better?

You also need a technology file that defines the names for layers
that cifp will recognize. I would suggest picking up Forrest Brewer's
MOSIS N-well technology file via anonymous ftp at bears.ucsb.edu:/pub/mosis.

Don't know about flea.

Regards,

R J Auletta
From: neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: docs on DFI?
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:36:58 GMT
Organization: COMSAT Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: neal.ctd.comsat.com
X-Md4-Signature: 9fbf6b3588b6e8baf89e1c5944d5098d

I have to port dfi aps I wrote on version 7 to version 8.  Where can I
find docs on version 8 DFI stuff?  How compatible is the interface?

Thanks.
From: neal@ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: Changes to DFI?
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:50:02 GMT
Organization: COMSAT Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: neal.ctd.comsat.com
X-Md4-Signature: fb241146e719eaee6e8a62a2cfc583b7

What changes have been made to DFI interface from version 7 to 8?  So
far, the only thing I've noticed is that I needed to remove calls
about the pfm_$cleanup handler stuff.
From: deepak@konark.njit.edu (Albatross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: Help!!!! needed regarding gate delays.
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:57:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: njitgw.1992Oct16.185748.24206
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

This goes out to anyone who has used VHDL for digital design. I am
trying to build the structural model of a hypothetical instruction set
processor (ISP). 

Now my question is; When one is into structural modelling, & one
describes a component for example an AND gate. One describes the inputs,
the output, and the initial delay, rise time & fall time. These values
of tr, tf are very important. I am led to believe that if one uses 0ns
delay then we still end up with unit delays for each time the module is
used in a higher level. What do commercial designers use for these
values of tr & tf. 

In the industry if you are doing a structural model of some device &
your device uses about lets say '50 gates'(Example). What would be the
delays one would specify for the gates. What is it based upon

For example the project that I'm working on has about 20 odd registers,
2 source buses, 1 destination bus, an ALU , and an Address bus in the
Datapath. It also has a control unit, which gives the necessary control
signals to work the Datapath. Now since the entire processor is being
built hierarchically using lower level modules, what should I base my
delays on in the lower level models. Also how do I consider Bus delays.

I hope someone out there can really provide an answer to my question.
This is with regards to my M.S. thesis & I really need some advice on
this matter. If someone is willing to help , please reply by email & I
will explain my question again if necessary.




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From: rocco@ll.mit.edu (A. Gregory Rocco Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: MUG library, Does anyone have a MUG 91 library tape?
Keywords: MUG, Library
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:42:17 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab; Lexington Ma USA
Originator: rocco@ll.mit.edu (A. Gregory Rocco Jr.)


In the time since MUG 91 both the MUG librarian (caretaker of the user 
software/component library) and the Mentor Graphics employee who is the
administrator for the Users' group have changed.  The new librarian is:

   Eddie Brown                   
   CAD / Systems Manager         
   Microsystems Prototyping Laboratory                    
   Mississippi State University  
   PH: 601-325-1607              
   Fax: 601-325-7692             
   email: eddieb@erc.msstate.edu 

Eddie has setup a library available via anonymous ftp on Cheers.ERC.MsState.Edu
[130.18.80.27].  See the posting made by me for Eddie Brown on 9/5/92
(Message-ID: <1992Sep5.131603.10217@ll.mit.edu>) to the USENET newsgroup
comp.sys.mentor or the September 92 MUGazine (which you should receive any day
now) for more information.  We are planning to distribute the library along
with the MUG 92 proceedings on CD ROM.  In order for this to make sense we need
submissions.  If you have something you would like to contribute please do so.
The library currently does not have much in it.  

We would like to make the stuff that was distributed at/after MUG 91 available
in the current library.  The only problem is that in the transition the master
tape(s) have been misplaced.  I have a copy of the tape from MUG 90 but not
MUG 91.  Does anyone have (or know someone who has) a copy of the MUG 91 tape?

Thanks,
Greg Rocco
Chairman Mentor Users Group
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
P.O. Box 73,  RM V111
Lexington, MA 02173-9108  USA
PH: 617-981-3419
FAX: 617-981-0721
email: rocco@ll.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
From: unrz03@epix.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Gert Buettner)
Subject: Missing Routine "_ctype"
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:03:49 GMT
Keywords: ep/ix

Hello,
While porting programs (traceroute and a graphics interpreter)
to EP/IX (1.4.3),
I end up with the error-message:

    ld:
   Undefined:
   _ctype


I have not found this routine anywhere, but there are 
"ctype" or "ctype_".
Is there a typo in a ?.h-file ? In which ?

Thanks for any help.

Gert Buettner, RRZE, Univ. Erlangen, Germany

buettner@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de
From: jdh@udev.cdc.com (Jeff Holmbeck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
Subject: Re: Missing Routine "_ctype"
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:52:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.cdc
Organization: Control Data Systems, Inc.

In article <BvupED.AzE@epix.rrze.uni-erlangen.de>,
unrz03@epix.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Gert Buettner) wrote:
> While porting programs (traceroute and a graphics interpreter)
> to EP/IX (1.4.3),
> I end up with the error-message:
> 
>     ld:
>    Undefined:
>    _ctype
> 
> I have not found this routine anywhere, but there are 
> "ctype" or "ctype_".
> Is there a typo in a ?.h-file ? In which ?

_ctype is defined in the sysv "flavor" of libc.a.  It is a table used by
the 
the macros (such as isascii and isdigit) in the ctype.h include file.

In the bsd43 world, the comparable table is named "_ctype_".

Is it possible that you are mixing sysv and bsd43 during your compilation?
For example, could you be doing something like this?

        cc -systype sysv -c program.c
        cc -systype bsd43 -o program program.o

Another possibility is that you are compiling for bsd43, but you are
using full path names for includes.  For example:

       #include </usr/include/ctype.h>

in your C program or perhaps:

       cc -systype bsd43 -I/usr/include -c program.c

for your compile command.

Jeff Holmbeck
Control Data Systems, Inc.
jdh@udev.cdc.com
(612)482-3255
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac:380 comp.sys.mac.wanted:9531 misc.forsale.computers:37028
From: GRS00023@APPSTATE.EDU (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.wanted,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Mac Classic II best prices?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 17:30:50 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.appstate.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Can anyone point me to the best price you have seen on a Mac
Classic II?  My bookstore is in backorder up the gazoo for them,
will be 6 weeks before they get another!  

No edu disounts, please...I have that price.

Basic setup, 4/40, key, mouse, etc...

Also performa 200's (same thing, different name)??

Thanks
Steve Williams
GRS00023@ALF.APPSTATE.EDU


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford)
Subject: Re: HD defragmenter ?
Organization: UNLV
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 19:38:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.084703.17875@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
>jdymond@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jason Dymond) writes:
>
>>re: commercial software eg. DiskExpress, NUM, others ?
>
>   Speed Disk. It's included in the Norton Utilities package. It's the best

Speed Disk sucks... Ive trashed my hard drive on several occassions
with it. (The program crashed and i was running of the emergency disk
like I was supposed to) Since Speed Disk doesnt have an;y real error
checking my hard drive was trashed. Fortunatly Norton's hard drive
recovery program works ok or i would have been really mad. 2.0 does
not fix the problem, as a friend got it when he got his SyQuest, first
time running, crashed and fried his hard drive.

On the other hand, I whole heartedly recommend DiskExpress. Works
flawlessly... And even if your hard drive crashes, no problems. Never,
it cant.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen)
Subject: Re: HD defragmenter ?
Originator: peterco@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:38:07 GMT

I've had very good luck with FileKnit from MicroCom.  My company (FOCUS
Enhancements) ships it as part of a licensed software collection on it's hard
drive products.  I guess it's available in stores.

Peter
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+-----------------+------------------------------------------------+
| Peter A. Cohen  |   No, I don't reflect my employer's opinions.  |
| peterco@eff.org | Heck!  My employer doesn't even know I'm here! |
+-----------------+------------------------------------------------+
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Which Mac should I buy?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15:15:19 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
> DAL is "Data Access Language," which is SQL access.  The Works packages are
> all good (except for MS Works; it still lags behind the other three), but
> I'm partial to ClarisWorks (my working for Claris probably has something to
> do with that), and it seems that ClarisWorks is the choice of the
> overwhelming majority of people who buy Works packages.

ClarisWorks WOULD be my choice; but it's a real rip off in the UK at #195
(approx. $350).  Symantec GreatWorks, by comparison, is available for much
the same price in the UK as in the US.  Since I don't appreciate being ripped
off, I'm probably going to go with GreatWorks unless Claris introduce a fair
pricing scheme.


mathew
-- 
"Boy, they were big on crematoriums weren't they?"
 -- George Bush, during a tour of Auschwitz, 1987-09-28
From: dchao@en.ecn.purdue.edu (David H Chao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: For Sale - "original" Mac Classic
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:29:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I have the following Macintosh system and software for sale...


"original" Mac Classic 

    2 meg Memory
    40 meg Hard Drive

    keyboard
    keyboard cable
    mouse
    power cable
    serial cable (for modem or printer)

System Software

    System 6.0.7
    Hypercard "basics"

Applications/Utilities 

    MacWrite 2  (word processor)
    MacDraw 2  (drawing)
    MacPaint  (painting)

    Virex  (virus protection)
    Pyro  (screen saver)

Games

    Tetris  (puzzle game)
    Quarterstaff  (role-playing game)
    
Misc.   

    public domain software  (modem program, games)
    4 blank 3.5" disks
    mouse pad
    computer/keyboard covers
    disk holder  (with 40 disk capacity)


Total asking price:  $750 + shipping  (or best offer)


Everything (except public domain) comes with original disks and original
documentation.  The Mac comes in its original box.

I will ship anywhere in the continental U.S.  I would like to sell everything
in one package, but I will consider selling software individually.

If you are interested, send e-mail to:

dchao@en.ecn.purdue.edu


Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bailey@argon.berkeley.edu (Jeff Bailey)
Subject: Re: Decompress .Z files?
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:10:27 GMT

In article <dbg-071092124728@kfp-slac-mac.slac.stanford.edu> dbg@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (David Gustavson) writes:
>Is there a utility that will decompress .Z files from Unix-land?
>I've received a postscript file encoded with Lempel-Ziv, I think,
>name ending in .ps.Z, and none of my decompression utilities seem
>willing to touch it (Compact Pro, Stuffit, DiskDoubler).
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>-- David B. Gustavson, Computation Research Group, SLAC, POB 4349 MS 88,
>    Stanford, CA 94309   tel (415)926-2863  fax (415)961-3530
>-- What the world needs next is a Scalable Coherent Interface!
>-- Any opinions expressed are mine and not necessarily those
>   of the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, the University, or the DOE.

Answer: use MacCompress, which is available at either sumex-aim.stanford.edu
or ftp.apple.com.  It handles Unix *.Z (de)compression.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: Black Apples
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 19:46:13 GMT

	Yet another possibility is that at least under some system versions
if you did a minimal install, the color apple icon was one of the things
that got thrown out...

-- 
Doug Wade  /  dwade@svcdudes.com  /   Disclaimer:  It's not official, folks.