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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: The Most Over-Hyped Anime of 1992
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:35:49 GMT
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney

tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
 >To me, the most disappointing anime of 1992 is Gundam 0083 the Movie
 >"Jion no Zankou". The editing job was awful and many important parts
 >were removed. But what made me real angry was HORRIBLE job they did
 >with background musics. They just kept using few BGM tracks OVER and OVER
 >even when the music didn't match the scene at all. 

Kind of sort of on this topic, I noticed that they did that in
Urotsukidoji 4 -- and the BGM was lifted straight from the Black
Rain OST!  (The Michael Douglas film.)  They just kept playing it
over and over... come to think of it, they did that with the Miroku
OAVs, too, but at least the BGM for them was original (I think :-)

Actually, I'm kind of embarassed that I remember such a minute detail
of such a vile and corrupt anime.   That was probably the only thing I
can remember from it, though.  Oh well, I'm not concerned about
losing credibility on this newsgroup. :-)

 >DON'T BUY the LD unless you have to get every Gundam 0083 related
 >product.

There's something very poignant about this sentence. :-)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Re: RUNNING MAN?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 04:44:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.162101.29221@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>> In article <wFd=jC+@engin.umich.edu> ferret@synecdoche.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka) writes:
>> >
>> > But, isn't the point of Liquid TV to feature AMERICAN animation?
>
>No.  Colossal (who produce LTV) is working in association with BBC 4.
>
Channel 4 is a competitor of BBC, like ITV, I believe.  A lot of Discovery 
Channel series' were originally produced by Channel 4.
>I've seen British, French, and other European shorts in LTV, not to
>mention AEON FLUX was completely produced in Korea (plot, direction,
>animation, etc.).  And, of course, Kawajiri's THE RUNNING MAN.
>
>-- 
Even Italian animation has been on there.  I also would like to see in addition
to more anime on LTV, but other film shorts from around the world, such as 
the Quinscopio series, by I believe from someone in either Mexico or Puerto 
Rico.

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu



Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: rmc@wang.com (rmc)
Subject: Characters in Maison Ikkoku
Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:32:19 GMT
	<1993Jan7.005811.6554@oakhill.sps.mot.com> <106322@bu.edu>

This was sparked by an article by shimkevi@acs.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)

There are characters i get more involved with than Godai and Kyoko,
but i think what i really like about Takahashi-sensei's work is that
there are few really good people and few real villians.  Most people
seem to have their good moments and bad moments, with flaws somewhat
outweighing the virtues.  Overcoming those flaws makes her long series
work;  the characters (especially male) in "Fire Tripper" and
"Laughing Target" can be closer to just nice.

Consider Mitaka Shun.  Right from the first panel where they see each
other, there are anger lines and flames running around virtually every
time they get together.  Godai-san certainly uses Soichiro to twit
Mitaka-san at the beach.  But what happens when Godai has pneumonia
after leaving Ikkoku-kan?  Mitaka Shun is there, cooking broth and
feeding him.  (V5, probably about c3)  Now the rest of the denizens of
Ikkoku-kan doing this makes some sense, as they do share the house.
But Mitaka-san doesn't;  he has no reason to bother with Godai-san.
He's not even doing it to show off to Kanrinin-san;  she doesn't
appear in those scenes at all, and i think he did it during her normal
"shopping time" to make sure she wouldn't show up.  (I have no
evidence for this belief, it's just there.)

Sure Otonashi Kyoko is not perfect.  She's trying to decide what to do
now that Soichiro-san is gone.  There was a really good post in
November on her dilema.  Should she be the romantic, virtuous woman
who remembers her one love?  Should she accept the advances of
Mitaka-san, who is closer to her station and clearly is compatible?
Should she support Godai-san, who she likes better even though he's
too low in station and needs a lot of work? 

And you must admit that Godai-san does improve a lot during the course
of the series.  He learns some responsibility from college and being
employed.  He becomes less indecisive.  (I won't say he becomes
decisive;  he doesn't manage to tell Yagami Ibuki about the marriage
in the "Final Movie".  But on the other hand, the denizens are being
themselves and interrupting him when he tries, too.  At the beginning
of the series he wouldn't have even tried.

Also Kyoko-san and Godai-san share a fault in getting jealous when
they have been too ambiguous about their own feelings.  The opening
out of these feelings really makes the series flower.  Is it because
they are selfish?  Cowardly?  Maybe a bit.  Maybe shyness has more to
do about it.  That's my prefered way of thinking, others will disagree
in good taste.

R Mark Chilenskas
rmc@wang.com


Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: R.A.A Awards Polling UPDATE. Official leaders
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:28:32 GMT

diane.karagian@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Diane Karagian)  writes:


>DC>          PRELIMARY Poll results..  Polling ends on January 31st
>
>DC>  The user who has the most memorable .signature file
>DC>          1st  PUMA               44 (8)
>DC>          2nd  Enrique Conty      21 (2)
>DC>          3rd  Akane Tendou       10 (2)
>DC>          4th  Larry Mann         7
>DC>          5th  Ralph Acktories    5 (1)
>DC>               Hitoshi Doi        5 (1)
>DC>               Lance Smith        5 (1)
>DC>               Ryan P. Gavigon    5 (1)
>DC>               Tonghyun Kim       5 (1)
>DC>               L J. Constantine   5 (1)
>DC>          6th  Scott Miller       3
>DC>               Ken Primer         3
    Mine has changed so many times...which one is being referred to?

>DC>          7th  Michael Studte     2
>DC>          8th  Megazone           1
>
>     Humph!  I'd hoped SOMEBODY would have remembered and appreciated my 
>.sig.  Guess I'm just going to have to work on it, and see if I can make it 
>a bit more memorable.
>
>     Incidentally, yes, I'm back from vacation.  If you've sent me email in 
>the last three weeks (and at least one of you did), please resend it; this 
>system (I've just discovered) only holds mail for a week or so.
>
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    Oh yes this is a GOOOOOOD one...*slobber* I vote for it!

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: AD Vision?! Never heard of them. (Was: Anime Seiya addenem Summary)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:08:32 GMT

In article <2360@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> maxcon@server.uwindsor.ca (Christopher Leung) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.165258.7115@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>
>>Strange, AD Vision must be early then...Nikaku had the Yohko tape the last
>>time I was there.  I wanna LD. ^_^;
>
>It could probably due to the distribution channel.  I know that our comic
>store uses Advance Comics to get their stuff in and it is listed in the March
>catalogue.
>
>	I wanna LD too! :)
>
>The LD chant:
>
>LD LD LD LD LD LD LD LD LD LD LD LD, etc...!
>

Well, my original Mamono Hunter Yohko LD is rotting...so I was hoping AD
Vision would do an LD...for cheap too. ^_^
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From: kuo@sumax.seattleu.edu (Chih-Ping Kuo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Proposal for a rec.arts.anime split
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:04:29 -0800
Organization: sumax city 0093
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

> Actually, this is not true.  Product announcements seem to be tolerated
> in some places (see comp.sys.mac.announce for an example).

since I read that group, I know that the moderator is very selective, 
only things he deemed helpful to ALL mac people would he put
in the news, (Apple system 7 release, virus alert, important 
patches, etc) there are THOUSANDS of Mac products flood the 
market each year, there is less than one hundred post on that group 
in the same amount of period.

when is the last time you see they announce product from Microsoft,
Borland, Novell, or even small company like Alladin? stuffit 3.04 is
just out, I don't see it announce from that group.

beyond offical Apple product, I haven't seen a COMMERICAL product
announcement since I start reading news, that is 3 years ago.

r.a.a. is one of the few places where product announcement is 
encouraged, because first there is so few of them, second
the net is the fastest way for anime news to get around, since
we can not relie on the promptness of anime magazines, 
and local store is just not big enough to spread the news around.

but I am sure if we even dare to ask the net so called kami, they will 
surely tell you that net advertising is a big NO NO,

and I will go along with the majority of the opinions on the sub-group
issues, they are just my opinion on how r.a.a. can function best.  
since I won't be the one leading the way to the promised land, I won't
bitch, but if you want to separate the signals, why not do it once
and for all?  I am sure there are people who will or won't be 
interested in those sub groups, a good way to tone down the noize of
the original r.a.a., otherwise, you still did not solve the problem, 
with .info you only isolated them all to .misc again.

(What happen to the people who is only interest in info and fanfic?
but not the jumble on r.a.a. now?  or people who only read info
but would be interested if something good come on sale? they will 
still be forced to go through the entire .misc posting to find them,
exactly the same way on r.a.a. right now.) 

I think I make my points very clear on the last few post, if people
don't agree with me that is fine, I will shut up now and wait for
the vote time to come,

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standard disclaimer applied   	 one small candle."
From: botton@torino.maraut.it (Paolo Botton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: GUNDAM SAGA = HELP =
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:02:34 GMT
Organization: Magneti Marelli, Electronics Division (ITALY)
NNTP-Posting-Host: guttuso.torino.maraut.it

Hi everyone,

Some years ago I've seen the episodes of the first Gundam (about
52 episodes, if I remember well).
About one year ago I've found a lot of soft-vinyl scale models (Bandai) of
Gundam and Jion mobile suits but they was not the mobile suits I've seen in
the old anime: I've asked for some info and I started to hear about
Z Gundam, ZZ Gundam, Char's counterattack, Gundam 0080, Gundam F90, F91, 
Axis War, Operation X and so on...
Can someone make order in my mind and tell me which is the proper order
of the anime and something about the contents ?

If somone could help me I would appreciate it very much.

Thanks in advance.

			Paolo.

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From: p6bde%frcirp81.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: blaspheming madoka
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:55:36 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

Yeah ! Lotsa people are angry seeing Anime char's taken for others
( Speed-Racer ? Watsit ? Any japaneese name 4 it ? ) But i'd like
to know how Anime is considered in USA, caus' in France Anime-Fans are
often said to be babies ... or perverts ( When the guy saw Cream Lemon or
things like that ... ) !!!
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From: diane.karagian@idcbbs.com (Diane Karagian) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RAA Statistics for 19
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: diane.karagian@idcbbs.com (Diane Karagian) 

RJ>     Let me pose a question.  Of the Top 10 r.a.a posters, how many
RJ>  spent more time reading and writing messages on their computers than
RJ>  they did actually watching anime?

     Well, I'm not in the top ten -- hell, I didn't even make the list -- 
but I spend a lot more time on-line than I do watching anime.  Mind you, 
though, most of the on-line time has nothing to do with anime at all.  I'd 
guess that my time reading r.a.a is roughly the same as my anime-watching 
time if you average it over the course of a month or so.

RJ>     Seems fandom can be addicting.

     No question!

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From: hartung@ee.fit.edu (Geoffrey (Curt) Hartung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: This is only a -little- annoying (trying to post)
Summary: this is a test (4th attempt to post  :/ )
Keywords: noth
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:14:44 GMT
Organization: Florida Tech, CP/EE Dept.


 I'm sorry if you wasted your tiumne reading this.

The gist is, i have been trying to post to this group
a bunch of times now, and NONE of them have shown up.

4th times the charm? maybe, if it works, look forward
to all kinds of posts :)   

-Jingoro  (easy on the cat..)
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK <SPOILERS!>
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 14:00:51 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1993Jan4.070033.9397@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com writes:
 > - Events happen waay to fast, like you were complaining about in one of
 >   the sections I deleted.  Characters are met, fall in love, and die before
 >   we can catch up with the story... maybe this is a bad choice for first
 >   Gundam anime to watch.

Hmmmm, not really. It was the first Gundam I saw, and it is what hooked
me on Gundam. I've graduated to 0083 and now ZZ...

Yes, it is fast. If you want the story developed, it should have been
an OAV series, but that would destroy the flow of the action. As it is,
it IS 2 hours long, and seems to fly by super-fast.

BUT, what you really do need to do is see it SUBTITLED. Reading the
script with the movie won't work. You need the words "there", rather
than constantly looking down to read a printout. I tried that when I
first saw the movie, and it while the movie wasn't too bad, I got
similar impressions as you did about it. But with instant on-screen
comprehension, it makes a big difference.

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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime references in the new Star Trek
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:44:20 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <mumble> daemon@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Mr Background) writes:

>While it's not the right place to rave about Star Trek: Deep Space Nine,
>which premieres this week across North America, I *did* notice Rick
>Sternbach's name in the credits and was wondering if anyone knew if this
>meant we'd see some anime references in it?..

I was wondering that myself...when I have the time I'm going to go
back and check my tape of the first episode.



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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: ferret@simile.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka)
Subject: Re: English language in Japanese music 
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 15:48:59 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ferret@simile.engin.umich.edu


In article <1993Jan6.155540.46163@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, lindsley@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>   Actually, I always thought that English had too few words for Love. For a 
> language that has a unique word for just about every color in the world, we
> only have one for Love. Even "primitive" societies (like the greeks) had more 
> words in their language (greek) than ours...
>  I find that the Japanese language has many words for Love, it's just that they
> aren't used very much in common conversation. Usually, love is referred to 
> indirectly in polite conversation... (In my experience, that it)
> 

	Actually, I now agree with you.  Shortly after I posted my first reply
(about love, high, etc), some friends and I got into a conversation about this exact thing.  We came to the conclusion that the Japanese had too many words for "love" to find the exact one to fit into the song, so they just used the only word they could find for generic love, the American one.

	Ken Lipka
	ferret@engin.umich.edu
From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RUNNING MAN?
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:01:26 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:

>Even Italian animation has been on there.  I also would like to see in addition
>to more anime on LTV, but other film shorts from around the world, such as 
>the Quinscopio series, by I believe from someone in either Mexico or Puerto 
>Rico.

Cuba.

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From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: r.a.a. widely known?
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 08:59:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.230948.7189@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>In article <gJ8wwB3w164w@musubi.pubnet.com> whong@musubi.pubnet.com (Dream Hunter) writes:
>>albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>>
>>
>>Actually, I don't really recall seeing any GEnie JaMO(Japanimation and Manga 
>>Online) ad in any issues of Animag.
>>
>
>'ll have to go look for the ad again.  It was the ad with the lady carrying
>this four missile rocket launching thing (looked like a lethal handbag).

	I'm sure there was an ad in *Some* magazine, because I joined GEnie
after reading one of those ads.  I think it might have been V-Max, or
some other mag though..

	By the way, GEnie is great for the poor-man like myself.  Virtually
free online time, if you log on at nights and stuff.  The moderation is
DAMNED irritating to me, but maybe not too bad for others..  


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Cyborg 009
From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:57:09 PST
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <Jan05.080847.39872@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:

[ save bandwidth ]
>	004 may have machine gun fingers, too, I guess.
>	There are two versions of 007; one a kid and the other an adult.  I
>	believe the adult version was on TV series, and he was an actor.
>	Well, let's see... his name was Great Britain or something like that,
>	wasn't it??  
 Yep! those sound right by memory ...

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From: gainax@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu (Chun-Li)
Subject: Sayo Onara! @_@
Organization: Ohio State University; Physics Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:31:39 GMT


Well everbody, I am going to say my good-bye's to the net for a while.
need to get some stuff straghten out and I'll be back in a couple of months.
anyways, if you want to snail mail here is where to contact me...
I guess...


Danielle Scott
4127 52nd street 
Sacramento, Ca 95820

hmmmm...


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