From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: Comment on MH
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:50:12 GMT

tlahdeoj@lesti.hut.fi (Tuomas L{hdeoja) blithers freely:
>martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas) writes:
>>Well, no, not really... the earth was *NOT* demolished as such.
>>It simply "resolves itself out of existence".  The turrets are a ruse.
>>Read MH again... there is no *event* for there to be a before or
>>an after.  Earth was simply erased from all possibility.  In the 
>>example you give above: no, the signal does not stay in that 
>>universe/time because IT WAS NEVER SENT!  How could it be sent
>>from an Earth which never existed?

>Well... I hate to admit thay you are right... In Life, the Universe etc.
>it says that timeflow does _not_ divide into multiple flows when someone
>does something. ie. if you come from year 1000 and destroy something in
>year 0 there will never be year 1000 (nor will there be you). This
>nature of time complicates all this a bit, but one thing is sure. There
>is only one time-axis and going to near enough of it's start you can
>demolish something (for ex. earth) for good. And there will the be no 
>radio signals or digital watches.

>Another problem comes from the different positions of the earth on the
>probability axis. Which was why the guide II was there.

>>>A different thing is that if you could bring ALL the earths in ALL the times/
>>>universes/etc into ONE point in Space-time-probability-possibility. So that
>>>they would really overlap and then destroy all the infinite (really INfinite)
>>>number of earths _simultaneously_ there wouls be no earth anymore. Ever. Any-
>>>where. 

>>Well, this is a bit more like it... but remember we are not dealing with 
>>traditional parallel universes as such... DA uses the WSOGMM instead.

>The WSOGMM has one significant advantage over "normal parallel universes".
>That is that there is only one-dimensional time (and probably) probability
>spaces or axises. Not multidimensional time "axis" as in "normal" parallel
>universes. Two different one-dimensional problems are usuallally easier
>to cope with than one multidimensional one. Ie. destroying all the earths
>in WSOGMM is easier than destroying all of them in "normal" parallel-universe
>system. The difference is something like destroying one point in several
>low-dimensional (<3) spaces and destroying one point in one mindbogglingly
>multidimensional space. Locating the points in several spacecs is more
>difficult than locating one point in multi-D space. Actually it's quite
>more much complicated...

>>Feel free to blither now.

>I'm avoiding it by inventing sufficently smart remarks to keep the actual
>problem unnoticed ;-)

SSSHHHH... nobody else has noticed! :)

>>>This can also (and with much less effort) be done by cancelling the Big Bang.
>>>Because there is only one big bang and after a time dt - which is pretty 
>>>little more than nothing - an infinite number of parts of BB that would become 
>>>earth(s).

>>Er... much less effort?  And by cancelling the BB you would be cancelling
>>not only our beloved Galaxy but the whole Universe as well.  

>Yep. Destroying something in _one_ point of _one_ time-space is quite much
>easier than destroying probablyinfinite number of points of time in each of 
>the infinite number of time-spacecs. *blither*

Hell, this all sounds perfectly reasonable, Tuomas.  We should write
this all up, add some maths to support our conclusions and send it
in to Nature... it'd be at least as good as everyone else's theories!  :)

We could call it, "A Sane Method of Destroying The Universe."  :)

Martin
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