From: mtc@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael Trevor CUTTER)
Subject: Re: The Alternative Music and Politics Club
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:02:38 GMT

acc@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (andy chia an chang) writes:

>mtc@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael Trevor CUTTER) writes:

>>I probably couldn't agree with Chris more. Who are you, Andy, to say 
>>who are the *right* type of people? How will you prevent subversive normal
>>people from entering your club? A politically correct entrance examination?
>>Appropriate tastes in music? How do you define 'Alternative Music and Politics',

>We welcome anyone to join, and if some happened not to like it they could alwayspull out :)
Its an interesting idea, proposing a club to do all those things that everybody
already does...or so it appears. Precisely what benefits are there in a 
'politically correct' club, that doesn't care who it lets in? :-) 

It also seems a peculiar attitude to provide such mainstream entertainment
in a club which wants to be 'Alternative.' How about jogging underwater, instead
of getting blind drunk and falling over a lot on hard surfaces. Concerts I can
handle. Will you arrange concerts of Guatemalan bongoes? That would be truly
alternative...and probably equally devoid of any except the diehard Guatemalan
bongo addicts. Face it, no club can hope to be truly alternative and simultan-
eously appeal to more than 0.002% of the population.

From your proposals of alternative entertainment, you leave us inclined to 
wonder whether you have an imagination of sufficient scope to keep 
those truly interested in the 'alternative' as members of your club for more
than a week. 

I could be wrong. Surprise me. :-)

Encourage entertainment that doesn't involve personal injury or brain damage,
now that would be mildly alternative.
>>aside from your personal tastes in noise and hot air?

>>As for: >>Nightclubs, bars, beaches, concerts and drinking parties
>>aren't there enough clubs providing such activities without yet another scoring
>>chunks of our Student Union fees? 

>I paid $15 entering 3 clubs earlier in the year and never got any news from    
>them.  I guess they probably choked up our money.
My heart bleedeth for your $15. Which clubs did you join? 
The "We Promise, We'll Have A Massive Piss-On First Thing In The Year, Honest!
(We Just Won't Invite Anyone Who Paid For It) Club"?
Learn value for money. Spend your money on booze, entries to nightclubs, beer to
take to the beach, beer to take anywhere.
Much cheaper than joining a club...you lose far more brain cells for your cash.
:-)

> Anyway, it costs nothing to
>join right now as we're very new, so people are welcome to contact me at
>acc@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au :)
Groovy.

>>I hope you enjoy the above immensely, because that's a sure way to fail 
>>any degree, let alone engineering or comp sci. Wot are you, a first year?

>>Enjoy your club, you will probably be very lonely...

>Sheesh, no need to get upset over a *simple* newsgroup article.  I find that
>quite amusing ... :)
I find it even more amusing that you took me so seriously... :-)
(By the way, don't you have a nose?)
Incidentally, your article was several pages long. You also appear to have an
alternative definition of *simple*. Enjoy.

Regards,
	Mike.
P.S. Try reading an article like that at 3am sometime. When you get to 2nd year. :-)
P.P.S. Oh, I get it. :) is an alternative smiley, right? *8o)

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