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From: mixmastr@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Roadkill!
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 18:24:35 PST
Reply-To: mixmastr@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Has anyone checked out the latest issue of Roadkill.  The issue # is 1.03 
and it fucking WORKS....I guess it is put out by the same people that do 
Hot Tracks, but there is noooo Top 40 here.  Breakbeat stuff, some 
ambient, and of course hard grinding stuff predominate.  Check out 1st 
the mixes of "Dildo" by Interactive & "Hardcore Heaven" by D.J. 
Seduction.....very slammin' stuff....

Peace................

B.T.W.  I am going to Dallas January 11-16, anything happening down there 
at the time????  PLease E-Mail me as I won't be checking Net postings...

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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: YO YO MA!
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:45:08 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.

Fooled you. It's me.
 
_Possessed_ by the Balinescu Quartet (Mute 61421-2) features covers of
5 Kraftwerk songs. They are excellent renditions considering it's all done
by a string quartet. Not as danceable as the original, but a good listen.
 
1) Robots 8:39
2) Model 3:42
3) Autobahn 6:18
4) Computer love 6:16
5) Pocket calculator 3:45 (vocals by Alexander Balinescu)
 
The other tracks are non-Kraftwerk.
6) Possessed 16:50 (good stuff)
7) Want me 7:40
8) No time before time 10:58
9) Hanging upside-down 4:55 (David Byrne/Angel Fernandez composition)
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "It's that constant beat; that 'boom, boom, boom!'
Detroit, Michigan  USA         I get hyped, I get into it, and when the
                                     breaks come . . . I scream!" :)
 
15 years ago I was listening to Kraftwerk,
12 years ago I was listening to Cybotron
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EEY9JJT@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (John Talbert)
Subject: Re: Breakbeat
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:10:57 PST

In article <C0E5p9.Dx2@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, on 5 Jan 1993 17:24:44 GMT,
elombard@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Eddie Lombardi) writes:
>
>I also have a question.  Here in Toronto a few of the rave organizations
>are starting to have raves woth 2 rooms.  A hardcore room and a trance/house,etc
>room.  Is this happenning in other parts of the world as well.  Actually the type
>of music in the second rooms is often called "happee" rave tunes.  I know there
>is an organization in Engalnd called Raindance that has had raves like the one
>decribed above.  Also is everyone as sick as I am of hardcore. When I first heard it
>I really like but know it seems 90% of shit and very repetetive(sp?).
>
In Los Angeles, the attendance at raves is about 3,000 people and
a variety of listening rooms are available: techno, chill_out/make_out,
funk, and reggae. After listening to several hours of hardcore
techno, it is nice to have another music room to hang out in.
From: renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Breakbeat
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:40:18 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Michael Shou-Yung Shum (mikes@owlnet.rice.edu) wrote:
: In article <1683@applix.com> donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241]) writes:
: >
: >	breakbeat ~= hardcore  ??
: >	when did this happen?
: >  
: 
: i'm not trying to suggest that hardcore=breakbeat... depending on your
: definition of hardcore, however, most of the new stuff coming out (at least
: the stuff i hear here in houston) has breakbeats rather than that boring
: regular 4-4 beat that was considered "hardcore" maybe a year ago...
: 
: of course, your conception of hardcore is probably totally different from
: mine :)
: 
: yours,m
:  
Most people probably think dutch, belgian and german Techno is Hardcore.
Though english people tend to say that Breakbeat House is Hardcore.
So it depends on where you're living.

Now some great breakbeat "Compilations":

Kaos Theory 4
     Not really new, but still some great stuff
Hit the Decks 3
     Not a compilation, but a set of 6 megamixes.
     Mixes by SL2,Megabass,Krome & Time,Carl Cox (All breakbeat),
     two little boys and Unity mixers (belgium) (both more techno)
     All 6 mixes are about 10 mins.
     featured tracks are (amongst others):
     Terrorize-Feel the rhythm/Urban Shakedown-Bass Shake/
     Smart E's-Sesame's Treet (Krome & Time remix)/
     Krome & Time-Sound is for the underground + b-side/
     Serotonin-Rumblism/DJ's Unite-DJ's Unite/
     SL2-On a ragga tip/Acen-Trip II the moon (prt. 2)/
     Nu-Matic - Keeps you movin'/Bad Boy-Bad Boy/
     Son'z of a loop da loop era-Peace and Loveism/
And, well, there's really not much more.

Also coming: XL-The Video Chapter

That's it
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From: laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: UPCOMING RAVES
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:40:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <6.1191.uupcb@satalink.com> jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) writes:
>Could someone do upcoming RAVES update that covers the East coast?

I do one every week and post it to two mailing lists and put it on a
publically-accessible ftp site.  To get this info, try any of the 
following:

(1)	ftp media-lab.mit.edu
(1)	log in as anonymous
(1)	give your own login name as the password
(1)	cd pub/ne-raves/rave-o-matic
(1)	get rave-o-matic

OR

(2) 	Subscribe to the ne-raves discussion list.  This will get you
(2)	the Rave-O-Matic calendar every Tuesday, plus all the discussion,
(2)	chatter, and flamage you could ever want about raving in the
(2)	North Eastern US.  To get on this list send a message to
(2)	ne-raves-request@silver.lcs.mit.edu

OR

(3)	If being on a discussion list is not for you, and you'd just
(3)	like the Rave-O-Matic calendar dumped into your mailbox every
(3)	Tuesday afternoon, then get on the ne-raves calendar-only list..
(3)	You will also get listings of clubs that have techno nights.
(3)	To do this send mail to ne-raves-cal-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu
(3)	I hope I got that last address right . . . . . 

Laura
From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: AMIGA TECHNO
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:41:00 GMT
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Anyone has a AMIGA? I have about 30 techno mods [modules] and a TON of
demos all incorporating psychodelic [sp] graphics and awesome grooves.
Recently I got a demo which won $2500 prize that is THE BEST TECHNO song
with really fuckin great visual effect. This shit could be shown on TV
and no one would EVER guess it was done on a $500 computer and played
from a 880k. This looks like it is from a CD ROM! spectacular! it is
really hard to describe. But if have an AMIGA and wanna see it lemme
know [I'll give you my BBS number so u can dl it] since I got mail
access here ONLY.

JAKE MON

========================================================================
This is about people with Kraftwerk and Pierre, Transmat and WARP, 808,
 909, and 303 encoded in their DNA. This is a live transmission of the
   beat you can't defeat, sampled over and over and hideously mutated.
         If you don't understand it, you don't deserve to.
-> THIS IS THE PHUTURE, RIGHT NOW, AND THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8<-
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From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: ACIIIEEEDDD!! was Rave or Techno?
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:53:51
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:39:30 GMT

>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Farmer <arf@otter.hpl.hp.com> writes:
  Andrew> In alt.rave, EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
> Could it be possible (I extrapolate) that the whole rave craze was
> started when 1000s of European kids began dropping acid because of a
> simple misunderstanding?????????
> And now it's being sold back to kids in the US!!!!!!!!!

  Andrew> 	Well, that's pretty much the way I remember it happening....hee hee..

Yup. It's pretty amazing how much fringe/underground US culture has been
repackaged and resold to, for lack of a better term, whitebread America.

Elvis, Rick Nelson, Vanilla Ice, Harry Connick Jr., Miami Sound Machine and
Opus III. What a combo!

--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.
From: markr@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mark Rivers)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: NYC rave scene
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:39:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

What's the NYC rave scene like?
I might get to visit in a couple of months
and I'd like to know what the scene's like.

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Breakbeat
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:49:41 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-05-93 17:43
Quoted from: elombard@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Eddie Lombardi)

> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'm looking for some excellent breakbeat compilations.
> Can anyone recomend some.  

Can't help you there...

> 
> I also have a question.  Here in Toronto a few of the rave organizations
> are starting to have raves woth 2 rooms.  A hardcore room and a 
> trance/house,etc room...

You are probably talking about the Chemistry raves (didn't get a 
chance to sample Rave Flakes, so I don't know if Pleasureforce is 
following the trend).  These typical 'chill-out' rooms are pretty 
popular at most raves.  They're a good place to sip your Evian while 
you try regenerate some energy, trip out, smoke something natural, or 
have fun with a friend. 

> ...Actually the type of music in the second rooms is often called 
> "happee" rave tunes...

Groups like 'The Orb', 'Primal Scream', and various other "ambient" 
rave/sample related artists are played in the chill-out rooms.

> Also is everyone as sick as I am of hardcore. When I first heard it
> I really like but know it seems 90% of shit and very repetetive(sp?).
> 

No.  I like hardcore AND ambient rave music.  They both fill a 
different purpose.  How much fun can be had just sitting around on 
pillows for hours on end, anyway? (unless you are doing something 
constructive on the pillows)
  I find hardcore rave to be evolving, and it will change along with 
its audience -- rave music won't get boring, since it will never be 
'the same' for too long... new and different beats emerge, get 
sampled, copied, and then altered.  Try listening to a comp. from a 
few months ago; most of it is at least somewhat different than what is 
being played now.

> Anyway I'd like to here your recomendations/comments
> 
> 
> Eddie
> 
>

greg.ipp@rose.com / rev@cibbs.uucp
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From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:05:43 GMT


laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa) writes:
>Okay, this makes some sort of sense -- if you are loving and nice to people
>at raves, then do it in all areas of you life, but the way it was written
>it talked about doing it on the night of the rave to create some kind of
>mystic energy envelope.  Maybe this really does work, but it just seemed too, 
>well, new-agey for me (being a skeptical East Coaster) to want to particpate 
>in.

I was a skeptical east coaster too, but after having been in the SF rave
scene for ~9 months, my mind has been irrevocably changed.

I don't like the really new-agey sounding stuff that laura quoted, but
simple exhortations such as "peace" and "keep the scene alive" eventually do
penetrate your skeptical cortex and begin to work.  You'd be amazed.

The people in the rave scene are generally the nicest, friendliest folk I've
ever met.  My life would be much poorer without their input.  That's why I
say, "keep the scene alive!"  (I also really like the slogan of some indie
techno label that I've forgotten the name of: "In your hearts, not the
charts...")

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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I was an infinitely hot and dense dot.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:14:15 GMT

>In article <C0nMAz.72p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois) writes:
>>I just want to say that I'm here for the music, techno music, I dont go
>>to rave parties for some ethereal, love one-another, get high on
>>Ecstacy, rub my crystals, worship my pyramids, live transiently in a
>>commnual-like 'experience.'  I just like to dance.  I don't care if
>>it's not pouplar, I wont stop liking it if it becomes too popular.
>>
>>I like Sesame's Treat, I like Apotheosis, I like Dominator, I like
>>Destoryer, I like Mother Fu*ker Man, I like Na Na, I like Ping Pong,
>>I like Pullover, I like Speed Racer.  I dont care if these are
>>considered old, or crappy, or commercial, or sellout, or nauseating
>>by some guy in the Uk, or some chick in the US.
>>
>>
>>Ok?
>>
>>-Dan


Thanks for sharing that with us, Dan.

What exactly is your point?  

The only people who will criticize your musical tastes are either hopeless
poseurs or net.geeks who post things they'd never, ever have the guts
to say to someone's face.  If somehow you feel that raves are
populated by elitist assholes or by ultra spiritual people like
describe in your first paragraph, then I'd suggest you go to more
raves and look around.  Sure, there are some of each there usually,
but that's one really great thing about raving... the diversity of the
crowd.  The biggest generalization I'm comfortable in making about
ravers is that they are usually people who like to get together,
dance, and like being nice to each other.  Also they really get in to
the music, as you seem to.  

Also keep in mind that different cities have different styles of
'rave' music...East Coast raves play different music than West Coast
raves which are different than UK raves etc...





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From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: Re: rave?
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:10:55 GMT


I am not tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest).  I didn't say:
>While it might be possible for raves to happen with more housey
>or tribal or trancey techno, I think the basic nature would be
>changed greatly by loosing the BPM.

well i don't know what you'd think of a san francisco rave then.  the trend
here has been for slower tracks (120-130 bpm).  now the big DJs are getting
away from techno altogether and moving towards really funky hip hop-based
stuff.

as for the basic nature, i haven't noticed much difference other than an
influx of regular club goers.  that was bound to happen over time anyway and
is totally independent of the style of music.

i've been to places where they play the blindingly fast stuff (what i call
"nosebleed techno") and the music just sounds *violent* to me, which is
completely antithetical to the whole idea of raving.  maybe it's one of
those "safe outlet" kind of things - if people are jacking furiously on the
floor, then they aren't out committing drive-by shootings.  personally, i
find it hard to get into a happy mood when the music is insistently fast and
abrasive.  how many times did you randomly hug a stranger at an industrial
disco of the late 80's?

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: root@demonseed.com (Root of ALL Evil)
Subject: Sonic the Hedgehog
Organization: Seed Development Corp.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 08:28:26 GMT

I heard that since Tetris was such a big hit that there is a song with
the music from Sonic the Hedgehog on Sega.. has anyone heard of this?
And if so what group was it? It was from Germany I think... not sure..

Me

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: OIVINDI@gribb.hsr.no (Ids, ivind           7-93)
Subject: Address to ORB mailing-list?
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:53:37 GMT


Oops! I seem to have lost the address for The Orb mailing-list. 

Therefore, could some kind-hearted soul or evil psychopath please mail it to 
me?

Oivind Idso (-: oivindi@gribb.hsr.no :-)
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"Reality Has Always Been Too Small For The Human Imagination"
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: kellogg@teal.csn.org (Patrick Kellogg)
Subject: Gimme songs
Summary:  techno, rave, house music wanted
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: alt.rave
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:02:53 GMT

Please mail your favorite rave tracks to kellogg@csn.org
(example: "Hi there! Cubik")
would make me the happiest boy in the whole wide world

 _   _   _   _   _   _   _   _  _ kellogg@csn.org
(_)_(_)_(_)_(_)_(_)_(_)_(_)_(_) - EREIAMJH the
  (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) (_) ghost in the machine
From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Date: 8 Jan 93 09:11:07 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <25.1191.uupcb@satalink.com> jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) writes:
>Anyone has a AMIGA? I have about 30 techno mods [modules] and a TON of
>demos all incorporating psychodelic [sp] graphics and awesome grooves.
>Recently I got a demo which won $2500 prize that is THE BEST TECHNO song
>with really fuckin great visual effect. This shit could be shown on TV
>and no one would EVER guess it was done on a $500 computer and played
>from a 880k. This looks like it is from a CD ROM! spectacular! it is
>really hard to describe. But if have an AMIGA and wanna see it lemme
>know [I'll give you my BBS number so u can dl it] since I got mail
>access here ONLY.
>
>JAKE MON
>

Safe!!!  At last, someone who has heard about the Amiga music scene.
There is some real talent out there on the amiga MOD front.
ANd you can produce some real good kickin tunes with the Amiga too.

I have a question though regarding this.
I worte a tune on the amiga called 'mod.Suburbass commando' 
A nice 142 bpm techno dance track, but how the hell would i go about getting
this onto vinyl or cd???
I have no money to press it myself and no idea on who to contact.
ANyone got any ideas????


My friends

U4ia of Megawatts......The AMiga .MOD writer.

p.s.  Jake i sure would like to see that demo and hear those mod's you have
      but i have no bbs modem facilty.  Can you name a few???
From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: MORE!
Date: 9 Jan 93 22:48:00 GMT
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

MOre..

MUSIC-1001
Flash Digital Concert IV

MUSIC-1031
Ram Rats Music Disk #3

MUSIC-1061
Ram Jam Music Disk #6

MUSIC-1081
2 Static Music Disk. Contains only 3 tunes but really great! Seal Remix
is one of them!

MUSIC-1111
Deadly Jammin II

Also I have some executable demos, like HYPNOTIC HAMMER, and few others
cant remember the names...

As you see some of my stuff has short descriptions that is coz i was
going to make a printed catalog of the demos etc...but never got to
finish it [like the last few titles have no description]...

read one of the previous messages for my address if u want any of it..or
want the full list.. remember i am not a millionaire and dont have disks
to give away..you must send me blanks or money for em!
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:43:28 GMT
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-10-93 13:39
Quoted From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
> 
> I run a board here in 619 that kinda specializes in modules, demos,
> and other cool stuff for the IBM and recently the Amiga (what a cool
> machine!) so if you want to upload it here...
> 
> Metro Holografix:
> (619)277-9016
> 14.4k HST
> oodles of MODs, demos, and other neat-o nifty stuff for the PC and
> amiga...
> 

OK ... if you send them out around there, I will take the LD charges, 
and upload my stuff.

> >The two MODs I have released so far (ie. in the last two weeks I've 
> >been into this): _Rennur (kennedy remix)_, and _Give (house mix)_.  If 
> >anybody has seen these anywhere, I'd really like to know.  I uploaded 
> >them to Rose Media (here), which means a large amount of exposure.
> 
> I want to hear 'um!
> 

I've had some positive feedback on them so far (from people on and off 
the boards).  They aren't full rave style, although one of them uses a 
breakbeat I sampled from a 2 Unlimited song (not because I like them 
or anything -- don't want to lose my musical integrity :). I'm 
working on a fully rave tune right now, since I got the cables to make 
my own samples (total breakbeat stuff -- using a beat sampled from 
_Close Your Eyes_ on the Technotrip 3 CD (a few months old, but still 
real good, especially when speeded up)). There are GIFs and NFO files 
included with both MODs to make them more fun.

> agrier@gompers.gompers.edu (real internet addy)
> tfinn@crash.cts.com (UUCP address)
>

rev@cibbs.uucp / greg.ipp@rose.com
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