HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Well, God Damn It! SPILL THE BEANS!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:16:43 GMT

rjchou@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Ri Jen Chou) writes:

>Austin would be great, as would Chicago.  I can house 20 people comfortably
>( I have enough futon and bed space to sleep 16 people, plus some floorspace)
>in my house, and I'm sure I can round up some other local motss folks to
>volunteer some bedspace.  Hotels are also close by, for those so inclined.

*20*? Wow. BTW, folks, I seen pictures of his house, and it has a *pool*,
so don't bother using 'Ausitin's too *hot*!' as an excuse. We kin all go
skinny-dipping.

>Anyway, I had a great time at the con, and I, too, will post a retrospective
>as soon as my head stops spinning from all that I've experienced.  

Me too, me too.

--
John Dorrance    ** Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico **    thaaang@odin.unomaha.edu

		I always thought of you as my brick wall
		   Built like an angel, six feet tall.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Don't write NAMBLA today
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:01:42 GMT


In article <11352@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul19.033020.13127@panix.com>, roy@panix.com (Roy Radow) writes:
|> > In <54450@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> phi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Steven Mancini) writes:
|> > >lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
|> # ##Q. Whats the difference between NAMBLA members and Catholic priests?
|> # ##A. NAMBLA members ask first.
|> # 
|> # How true.  Father Ritter (hypocrite of the year/member of Pres. Nixon's
|> # Commission on Pornography/founder of Covenant House) always went out of
|> # his way to distance himself from NAMBLA.
|> # 
|> # If he had become a member perhaps we could have helped him be more 
|> # comfortable with who he was and taught him some lessons in consideration, 
|> # tolerance and improved human relations.
|> # -- 
|> # Roy Radow		roy@panix.com         ...rutgers!cmcl2!panix!roy
|> 
|> Except the accusation against Ritter evaporated when it became
|> obvious that the accuser was lying up a storm.

This is not true.

|> Ritter's eventual
|> departure from Covenant House was because of financial irregularities,
|> largely the result of insufficient attention to the nepotism involved
|> with contracts.

Because a priest fucking the young men he was supposed to
be helping is not unusual or upsetting enough to cause his
dismissal, and at least he had the good taste to lie about
it instead of talking about it openly.

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Private Discrimination
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:37:56 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <2831@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier) writes:
>In <11433@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>
>>In article <2532@nlsun1.oracle.nl>, jdurbin@nl.oracle.com (Jason Durbin) writes:
>}} Aren't such laws society's way of saying that this type of behavior
>}} is something up with which it will not put? The so-called
>}} representatives of society decide that, to the best of their 
>}} knowledge, most members of the society do not condone this
>}} behavior and therefore provide sanctions to discourage it?
>
>}Yes.  Now substitute the word "sodomy" for "antidiscrimination."
>}Does still sound so attractive?  If you aren't prepared to leave
>}other people alone, you are in no position to insist on your
>}right to be left alone.
>
>That is a typically dumb analogy. Sodomy is consensual. Discrimination
>is not. Why don't you think before you type? Unless, of course, you
>have something nice to convey, though I suspect that is beyond your
>mental capacity.

Don't waste your time with Cl*yt*n.  Most of us have figured out
his, er, "problem" and simply hit the 'n' key with an annoyingly
nagging sense of pity.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
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From: buckmr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Metzenbaum introduces Senate bill to end military ban
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:56:11 GMT

joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:

>2) States where Homosexuality is a Felony will not be able to keep the
>   law on the books if they have military bases, i.e. every state in the
>   union. For instance, in Florida, you can't be a doctor or a lawyer if 
>   you can be proven to be gay, and someone pursues it, since it is illegal.
What??? This is incredible. I thought I remember reading that Lawton Chiles 
appointed an openly-gay man to a judgeship recently, in Florida. How is this
law against openly gay lawyers or doctors implemented statewide? Is it a
state labor law?

-- 
RON BUCKMIRE, 54 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. `D.C. in 93!''
vox:(518)-276-8919 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"When Jesse Helms filibusters an [AIDS] research bill, I want to scream 'You
idiot! It's going to take us out as a species!'" -- Robin Williams.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Cheeks'n'Chaps
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 04:58:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I ran into an acquaintance of mine Friday night.  He was out with his
lover, someone else I'd seen around, and a stranger.  They were all going
to the Cheeks'n'Chaps party later that night, and were dressed
appropriately (I'll leave "appropriate" up to your imagination, but in fact
very little was left up to the imagination).  

The stranger had amazing blond hair.  I've seen it on a few other people,
and I think it's a natural color, but it's much more striking, and much
more attractive, than most blond hair.  Well, he was much more striking
and attractive than most people, so I suppose his hair should match. 

The blond stranger was going to perform in some sort of show later that
night and was nervous about it.  I told him that all he had to do was take
off his jacket, exposing his chest, and he'd have no problems.  

But that's not what I was going to write about.  The acquaintance, 
whom I'll call Rod, has been in several porn films, and I had just read a
review of the most recent one.  The review was not entirely favorable
(wasn't favorable at all, actually).  He hadn't read the review, so I
handed it to him, and he read it.  He laughed all the way through.  

Approximate conversation:

-----

Me:    Was the movie really as bad as the review says?

Rod:   Yes. Probably worse.

Me:    I hope you at least had fun filming it. 

Rod:   No.  It was awfully.  The director was on drugs or something, and we
       didn't get started until really late at night so we were all tired,
       and it was freezing cold.  I had to lean up against a car for part
       of my scene.  There's nothing like being draped over freezing cold
       metal to damper your ardor. 

Me:    What about your partner?

Rod:   That was pretty awful too.  I had been dating him for a couple of 
       weeks, and then we broke up the weekend before the movie was shot. 
       It was sort of a messy break-up, too, and then I had to go back 
       the next week and fuck him. 

-----

This is the mark of a real professional, I guess, being able to carry on
against all odds. 

We later talked about the ggay rodeo, which was held this weekend:

-----

Me:     Are you going to the rodeo?

Rod:    We haven't decided yet. 

Me:     I haven't either.  On the one hand, there's potential cruelty to 
        animals.  But on the other hand, there's shirtless cowboys. 

Rod:    I happen to know that all those cows are there voluntarily. 

Me:     Don't be silly.  How can anyone know that about cows?

Rod:    It's easy.  They polled them. 


-- 

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Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
From: kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken Richards)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: con '92
Keywords: con
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:33:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1992Jul24.233313.11402
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon


	Well, the con is off and running. Last night we all got together for
Chinese food and conversation at the "opening event."  I have one suggestion
for the planners of the next con: have someone at the door to greet new 
arrivals, hand them a name tag, and kinda explain what's going on. For a 
shy guy like me, walking into a room of 50+ strangers is akin to stepping
off a pier into the ocean and not knowing how to swim. Fortunately, I resisted
the urge to bolt out of the restaurant and found myself among friends.

	Today, though, I'm jealous. While everyone else is out hiking, 
picnicking, shopping, and just generally enjoying themselves, I'm stuck at work.
Whine, whine, whine.


Ken "Looking forward to the weekend" R. 

		

-- 
__________________________________________________________________________
   Ken Richards        |      
 Logic Modeling Corp   |         kenr@lmc.com  
                       |   
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: FB.MXP@forsythe.stanford.edu (Michelle Pallas)
Subject: Questionnaire
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:22:49 GMT

Can someone please email me or repost the questionnaire about
heterosexuality? I didn't save it, and so now I need it.

Thanks -
Michelle Pallas
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: Re: Leaving for the con! Be back in 10 days!
Organization: Tom's Box of Ahedonia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:01:58 GMT

In <1992Jul18.142240.10434@plts.uucp> tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) writes:

>Laura (laura@plts.uucp) and I (tal@plts.uucp or tal@warren.mentorg.com)
>are leaving for the motss'con!  We're leaving early so we can do some
>vacationing before we 'con.

We're back!

>We can't wait to meet everyone in Oregon!

We met everyone in Oregon!

>We'll be back around July 28th, so expect lots of followups to old
>articles.  (We keep news articles here 30 days).

We're going blind trying to read ALL the backlog!

>Don't expect us to be able to reply to any messages until we get back!

...and do *I* have stories to tell about the 'con! :-)

Tom
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From: decot@cup.hp.com (Dave Decot)
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:08:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Don't forget Homer Simpson's secretary.

Dave
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: brent@syacus.acus.oz.au (Brent Davies)
Subject: Re: British pronunciation (was: Spanish spelling)
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:10:12 GMT

twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

[regarding Gropecunt Street, a hangout of prostitutes in London...]

>The English may be uptight, but they certainly know how to say what
>they mean.  :-)

I say there are few things in life as *straightforward*, as *unembellished*,
as refreshingly *brazen*, as a few well-chosen Anglo-Saxon words.  If only
they were less sexist; if only there were a Suckdick Road somewhere in that
city...

--Brent
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Vatican equates homosexuality with mental illness
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:32:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Jul21.233242.10599
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <73D6NB4w164w@penn.Gwinnett.COM> bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins) writes:
>> >It seems that the Roman church now sees homosexuality not
>> >only as a sin, but a MENTAL ILLNESS
>THIS from a group that (the last I heard) had 1 Billion dollars set aside to
>handle all its sexual abuse cases....sheesh-

I suspect that this $$$ figure is wildly exaggerated, judging by the good
it's done so far.

>now when I meet someone who is Catholic I just assume that either they WERE
>abused as a child or ARE a child abuser...

Save that for alt.sexual.abuse.recovery, where such nonsense statements
are not only tolerated, but encouraged.  I would imagine that most
Catholic childhoods were rather repressed and innocent wrt sexual
matters.  Goodness knows I didn't get much until I was 23.


-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Subject: Re: Fashion Plate
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:26:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.193904.3434@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) wrote: 
>->So does Yoko Ono, J. Paul Getty, Jimmy Sommerville, 
>
>buy me a beer!
>
>(having jimmy sommerville on the cd player brought this to mind ... it
>must be an omen!)
 
Hateful! My pickup techniques revealed!

I actually said "I could strap you on babe..."
-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:28:52 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) wrote:
>Charles Nelson Reilly ("The Ghost and Mrs. Muir" and an endless
>                       number of game shows)

Match Game '73
Match Game '74
Match Game '75
Match Game '76...

       Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3328.span@sdsc.edu
"It's always Beach Party Barbie, or Malibu Barbie....  That shit does not
prepare you for the true horror of a real woman's life.  Where is Single,
Abused, Trailer-Park Barbie?"             - Roseanne Arnold
Xref: sparky soc.motss:32433 rec.arts.tv:15305 rec.arts.tv.uk:4481 rec.arts.tv.soaps:26420 soc.bi:9488 alt.politics.homosexuality:5164
From: keb3_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Karin Baker)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.tv.soaps,soc.bi,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:38:51 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <2181@sjfc.UUCP> glb3833@sjfc.UUCP (Gidget Bowden) writes:

>>In article <1992Jul20.190203.21469@ccu.umanitoba.ca> wyatt@ccu.umanitoba.ca  writes:
>>For a while now I have been trying to compile a list of television programs
>>that have included gay/lesbian characters as a part of their regular (or 
>>semi-regular) casts.  Many shows have "dealt" with gays in a single episode or
>>story line, but just how many have included gays on a regular (or recurring) 
>>basis?  My intention is to keep the list to network and widely-syndicated 
>>entertainment shows in the English language.   This includes shows seen on 
>>broadcast or cable television nationally (or very widely) in the United States,
>>Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia and/or other English-speaking nations.

>I'm not sure if this has been posted yet or not, but on the soap AT the
>World Turns, there was a gay character Hank.  They never showed his lover,
>who was living in another city, but his lover had AIDS, and eventually
>died, I think.

Yeah, and now, on _One Life to Live_ there is a regular character (who is 
causing quite a stir) teenager named Billy (male), who has "come out."  
Unfortunately they have accused the minister (who refuses to say either 
way if he's gay or straight, but we all know he's straight) of being 
gay, and the whole town is out to oust the minister.. 



>I hope this helps.

>--Gidget



>-- 
>*************************************************************************** 
>* God did not create the world in seven days.          * Gidget L. Bowden *
>* He partied for six, and then pulled an all-nighter!  * glb3833@sjfc.edu *
>***************************************************************************

God must have been in college! ;)
-- 

--Karin
keb3_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Hanky Code
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:34:09 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Jul29.221735.27289@midway.uchicago.edu>
elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>In article <1308@dosbears> drp@dosbears.uucp writes:
>>Robin's Egg Blue	69-er				69-ee

>It's quite a trick, working out the difference between the two.

>(Is this like "let's do 70:  you do me and I'll owe you one"?)

Well, 68 would be more like it.

Only 69-joke I know: 
Q. What's the square root of 69?  
A. Ate something.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 03:40:40 PDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

wyatt@ccu.umanitoba.ca  writes:

>    The list I have compiled so far includes only 39 shows: 8 British, 3 
> Australian, 2 Canadian, and 26 American.  If you would like a copy of the list
> as it is now, please send me an e-mail request.
>    If you can recall any shows including regular, semi-regular or 
> recurring/occasional gay, lesbian or bisexual characters, please post a 
> follow-up, or e-mail them to me at:  wyatt@ccu.umanitoba.ca

"The Kids in the Hall," an all (or mostly) gay comedy troup who had a
show on HBO a season or two ago.

"Brothers" on Showtime, now in syndication.

"Soap," "LA Law," "Murphy Brown," "thirtysomethng."  (you knew these,
right?)

"The Tracy Ullman Show," which had a recurring skit about two gay
fathers and their daughter (Tracy).  The same couple made an
appearance on "Married: With Children," and Al fell in love with one
of them because he could cook. :)



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
[] I love DESQview/X
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From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Subject: Re: the b-word
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:20:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.200510.20496@trentu.ca> xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory) writes:
>I suspect that neither of you cares one way or the
>other about the number of mothers or fathers, but would like
>to see a higher proportion of them attain that office
>through adopting parentless children, of which there is,
>contrary to popular opinion, no shortage.

Thank you for making my point more clearly than I could.

Ry Schwark
ry@usl.com
From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The sexiest man on TV
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:13:44 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Jul23.183809.6163@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:

>kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) wrote: 

>->I heard differently. Supposedly Stewart, Michael Dorn, and Levar Burton are
>->all gay.

>oh, yeah?  i heard that winston churchill and george bush were gay
>(see?  edith cresson *was* right!)

>seriously: who gives a fuck?

Lighten up, old man.
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: HIV- cases of full blown AIDS?
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:35:51 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Organization: DosBears

In article <1992Jul20.092306.51548@qut.edu.au> bellmann@qut.edu.au writes:
>
>  I heard in the radio news that there are (nineteen?) cases of full blown
>AIDS in the USA that test HIV negative. Six of these cases received transfusions
>after blood banks had started to be screened for HIV. I thought I would find
>something about this in this newsgroup already

I suspect most of us are taking a wait-and-see attitude, since 99%
of these AIDS news flashes turn out to be bullshit.

>as this is a major piece of information

That remains to be seen.

>and probably signals the end of the illusions about HIV being the
>cause of AIDS.

Yeah, right. Eleven cases out of millions.... The standard tests for
HIV test for antibodies, not for the virus itself. Besides which, AIDS
means Auto-Immune Deficiency Syndrome; it's possible that these few
cases of impaired immune systems could have nothing to do with the
current epidemic.

--
       David R. Preston  drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why?
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:12:30 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <70532@apple.Apple.COM> richard@Apple.COM (a
flying squirrel) writes:

>[re BoA and Well Fargo reneging on the BSA thing]

>Why do the FunnyMentalists seem to be better organised at
>making themselves heard under these circumstances?

Whaddya mean, "seem to be" -- they *are better organized,
*lots* better.

>Why is my perception becoming more jaded about the "gay
>community" -- do we vote?  Do we call?  Do we care?  Why are
>we allowing this to happen?

Too many are ignorant, uncaring, self-absorbed, and a host
of such-like reasons.

>Perhaps I am just crankly cos it's my b-day (33) and I am
>feeling old and tired.  Words of encouragement, please.
>Maybe someone could BinHex me a couple of twinks?

Well, gloriosky, Zero, who woulda thunk it?  That's about
the oldest squirrel on earth, I bet.  But Martha, did you
see how fast he can make a dive for the nuts?  Pretty nimble
for an old guy, eh?

Oh, a third of a century's nothing, hon; wait till it gets
to be half and you ain't seen no twinks for about five
years.  Better lap up that Cafe de Flore crowd while it's
there to be lapped, dusty canyons and dry gulches are not
far ahead.

Wish I'd been there to sip a Suze witchas, toots.  Many
happy returns (of the 24 Divisidero).

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: RFD: Still in print?
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:50:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.003025.187@csrd.uiuc.edu> hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu) writes:
>>I thought RFD was for rural gay men?
>>It's for rural gay male wanna-bes, too.
>I dunno, but the people I know are quite happy living in the city.

Sorry, "would-bes"...

>There's just more privacy out in the woods for things like orgies.

Oh, do-bes!

-- 
Steve Dyer
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