From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Subject: Re: worthless comic strips
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:04:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.153652.12928@phillip.edu.au> lbarrass@phillip.edu.au writes:
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>  It appears to me that the only thing wrong with BC is that paranoid
>evolutionists disagree with it, 

Thank you, Sigmund Freud.

>which in their eyes makes it wrong. All the
>flack the strip has received recently shows a real fear of anything opposing
>evolutionary views.  

Most of us in this group (alt.atheism) are never afraid of ideas, 
espeically goofy ones like creationism.  Your assumptions of
our motives and states-of-mind are devoid of evidence; but then,
lack of evidence has never been a hinderence to christians.

>Don't fall into the trap many evolutionists accuse
>creationists of, that is to suffer from tunnel vision.

I've never accused creationists of tunnel vision; that is 
a private matter between the creationist and their
optomotrist. :-)

Most of the comments in the B.C. thread have merely pointed out
several ways in which creationism and certain christian notions
about issues like abortion have been included in the comic strip.
This thread expanded when other examples were posted 
of christian beliefs being placed in other comics.  Most of
us found this to be an unfortunate trend, not only because
we don't agree with it but because the "humor" struck as
as pedantic and generally not funny.  No paranoia here.
  
>  I haven't noticed any posts condeming yoga/meditation/eastern philosophy in
>public schools. Don't be a Christophobe.

Ummm, that red herring was delicious!  There are a lot of things not
posted here; so what?  But if it will make you happy:
Yoga:  a discipline involving physical and mental exercises.  I've
known atheists who practice yoga.  Irrelevant to the comic issue.
Meditation:  a form of mental exercise practiced all over the
world, by people of every faith and non-faith.  Christianity
has a long and rich tradition of meditation techniques, both
in R.C. and protestantism, although this seems to make many
American christians uncomfortable.  Irrelevant to the comic issue.
Eastern Philosophy:  too wide to discuss.  Most people in this
group are more familiar with judaism/christianity/islam, so
most of our comments involve these religions.  Occasionally
some eastern (Asian) religions are discussed; especially
Buddhism and Zen, because these are religions that
don't require a belief in a god.  Irrelevant to the comic issue.

Is a "christophobe" sorta like a "homophobe", i.e. a person
with an irrational fear of a particular group of people?
If so, there are few christophobes here; our dislike of
christianity is based on an extensive, and frequently
a personal, knowledge of christianity.

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Cute.  If you can draw Binky the Leprachaun this well, 
you might get a scholarship to art school.

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>lbarrass@phillip.edu.au                     Lindsay     
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