From: zhu@cs.UAlberta.CA (Zhu Yuchen)
Subject: Re: Prof. Fang Li-Zhi about oversea Chinese students returning to China
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:29:50 GMT

>I agree that it is not safe at all to go back to China now, even the
>goverment says the country needs us badly. I just have a friend who
>went to China and didn't allow to come out. 

>--rxwu
>--
I do not agree.

The point here is rxwu interpreted SAFE as whether or not you are 
allowed to come out again.  I would think 99% of overseas students
would have  no trouble at all to come out if they have no trouble
with foreign countries' immigration. (99% is no accurate estimate,
just as in Chinese, we use 9 to mean MANY). There are probably other 
things that prevented rxwu's friend from getting exit permit (rxwu 
never told us why his friend's exit permit request was turned down,
did he?). I think it's safe to go back because what I mean by safe
is whether you would be politically persecuted or not after you go 
back, or to say the least, whether or not  you would be harassed 
more often than CCP does to ordinary Chinese people. Who do 
you think you are, WuerKaiXi or Chai Lin? Come on. :-) 

It should be OK if you don't tell everybody in the streets that you
hate LP or DXP so much (even if you do, it's still unlikely that 
you would be busted right away).  Nobody can read your mind, right?
You may argue "but this is no democracy". You are right, but we are 
talking about "SAFE" not four-big-freedoms. Of course, if you are 
holding Gong1 Fei4 passport, and own some bucks to Chinese government, 
think it twice before you go back.

What I am saying is if you are not VIDF (Very Important D-Fighter), 
it should be relatively safe to go back because you are simply holding 
different opinions not releasing them, not to mention that you won't
carry out any concrete counter-revolutionary measures. 

But for that new bill's sake, don't let George think in this way.

Another thing that came up to my mind is somewhat unrelated to rxwu's
safety problem, if you are living in China, most of time you are not 
dealing with CCP or DXP, you are dealing with ordinary people who are 
either your friends or those who work in the same working unit as you. 
99% (again? :-)) of them are very nice, except for possibly few 
leader-comrades who have to do something real ugly to stay in power. 
It would be ridiculous to say these people are trying all they can to
put you in jail.  So, when you think of China, please don't think all
those bad aspects incurred either by CCP or rotten parts of the culture,
rather, think of nice people and beautiful places like Three Gorges. 
I support two-Chinas in this sense, the CCP and its regime, and Chinese
people you would live with in your daily lives. Blame it to the first,
not the second (although sometimes, you would relate many things to 
what is said in the book "Ugly Chinese"(?).)

=zyc
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