From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: Test 11 to SA and ODI 11 too
Reply-To: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:05:22 GMT

pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.015232.21040@news.acns.nwu.edu>, sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf) writes:
>|> In article <BvI5LM.5rE@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu writes:


>|> >Kambli
>|> ^^^^^^^^^
>|> (Freudian slip ? ) :-) 


>Incidentally, Bharat made the same slip (Kambli instead of Kambli)
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now thats *really* neat:-)
>twice in his
>post, both in the test team and in the ODI team! Shows how much one wants
>Kambli to be in the team.


>|> 	Now, here I have very different views. In my book, Manjrekar has
>|> waay too much class to be dropped from the Indian team in anything ( tho I
>|> too dislike  seeing a purist like  him slogging ). The #3 spot in the OD's


>Manjrekar is no longer a `purist'. :-(

>ODIs have really spoiled him (though he adapted to them well). I was distressed
>to see the changes in him after the Eng tour. In the _test_ with SL, the way
>Manjrekar got out is a shame - he got out chasing a ball very very wide of the
>off-stump. Compare that with the unbelievable discretion he exerted in Pak over
>outside the off-stump balls.

My main reason for dropping Manjrekar for the ODI's, which neither
Sadiq nor you referred to was that he is a HORRENDOUS runner between
the wickets.  Sadiq's idea of opening with Manj is intriguing, but
there are no ways about it -- he has to improve his running between
the wickets.

>|> 	So, coming to the point, the Grand Design , the reason for me
>|> blabbering away this long :-) Open the innings with Jadeja and Manjrekar.
>|> Manjrekar is maybe our best player of pace, clearly he can handle it.
>|> Manjrekar is good for the opening role in ODI's, his style is to build an
>|> inning with placements - singles and twos that keep the scoreboard ticking
>|> along. And he has shown the ability to accelerate once he's gotten his eye
>|> in ( witness the India/Australia ODI, and the India/SA ODI in Delhi last

I agree Sadiq, that he is much better than Shastri at opening for the
one day game as far as pace goes, but I think dropping him for the
ODI's win convey the message unmistakably that he needs to become a
better runner ... and that is a facet of his game that can *easily* be
improved!  So, I am not suggesting that he be dropped because he isn't
good enough (I am all for solidly having him in my test team), and
obviously he can accelerate if needed.

The second problem with his opening is that if it comes off - great!
But, if it doesn't you risk ruining his confidence for Tests.  That
was actually why I suggested number 5 for him in Tests -- to give him
a chance to get his confidence back...  Anyway, for my Test 11 I did
state

4. Tendulkar
3,5 Azhar, Manjrekar

meaning that either could go 3/5..

>|> 		Sadiq [ he keeps going and going and going... ] Yusuf

And don't you stop...

>PVR

Bharat
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