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From:         "Magnus Wissler... Amiga rules..." <NDB120@NOV.HB.SE>
Subject:      Re: Running programs outside their directory

> From:          SARGEANT%WHITMAN.BITNET@SEARN.SUNET.SE
>
> Subject:  Running programs outside their directory
>
> I would like to run some programs, using the supplied icon, from a parent
> or root directory.  I understand somewhat the difference between the icon
> types and know that I can have an icon in one drawer run a program from a
> different drawer using a script file, but there must be a better way.
>
> Anyone out there doing what I'm describing?  Specifically, I want to open
> my games drawer and have all of the different game icons show up but
> still keep each game in it's own directory.
>
> Any help appreciated!

If you're using 2.04/2.1/3.0 you can create links to files to make them
appear to be in more places than one on a disk. Exactly how this is
accomplished, I'm not sure, since I'm out of Amigas right now :-), but it is
possible (I think...;-)

> Jeff Sargeant

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:39:01 EST
From:         Dan Bachmann <bachmann@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject: Re: HighSpeedPascal

If you have CrossDOS there is a program that will do the job for you
called TxFilter.
Since you are using Pascal, you can write a program to go through the
file and change the EOLN character as it copies the file.
It's pretty simple and you can write it on the Amiga or IBM PC.

                - Dan
PS: Is HSPascal public domain?
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From:         Daniel Joseph Oak <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Amiga ads ( Babylon V ) (hurmish)
              "JAKOBERE%UWSTOUT.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" at Dec 17,
              92 9:32 am

> Speaking of Babylon V....
>
> I thought it was supposed to air end of Nov..?
> Did it air? If so, when and on what network?
> If it hasn't, when will it? Questions,questions.....Does any one know of
> its status?

My sources say sometime in mid febuary.
  My sources also say a law suit is pending and bab V may never go passed
the first runner because dep 9 and bab v are almost exactly the same thing
and dep 9 was written first by the same person who made bab v.


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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:11:18 +0100
From:         jorrit@UZ.KULEUVEN.AC.BE
Subject:      Re: AGA question...

>A friend of mine and I were wondering, are all video modes
>available at all times with an AGA amiga (i.e., halfbrite and 4096
>color HAM).  I thought I had read somewhere that it is necessary
>to reboot in a certain configuration to use these modes.
>
>Could someone clear this up.  Thanks.

That's nonsense. A friend of mine has an A4000 and he has no problems at all
running the old (and in fact a bit obsolete) EHB and HAM6 modes.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:47:48 CDT
From:         Dan Szkola <A02DJS1@NOC.NIU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: negativity directed at CBM

Yes there is negativity directed at C=. But let's face it, when I
hear that there is a Video Toaster for I*M machines and when magazines
like Computer Shopper make grossly inaccurate statements about our
favorite machine, I panic. C= has done NOTHING (until very recently)
to improve the Amiga's image. Many mistakes made by magazines are due
to misunderstandings about the Amiga. I remember reading in one Amiga
magazine how one reporter went to various non-Amiga computer dealers
to ask about the Amiga. One dealer told him the Amiga power supply
got too hot and was starting fires in peoples homes. One reffered to
it as a games machine PERIOD. One said the thing couldn't run without
crashing for more than a few minutes. C'MON!!!!!!!! I'm sure stuff
like this happens all the time. I wince every time I hear a false
statement that further tarnishes the Amiga's image. Calling the Amiga
a video niche machine may sell a few more Amigas to video
specialists, but it doesn't sell it anywhere else. Who is going to
buy a video machine to program and do serious work on? No one in
their right mind. Every person who I have shown my A3000 to, goes
away seriously impressed, wondering why his machine can't do what
mine does. C= needs to give the Amiga exposure. EXPOSURE. This is the
only way to show people what the Amiga can do. People will not buy a
machine they have never heard of. And they definitely won't drive
150+ miles to the nearest Amiga dealer! So while I have many positive
things to say about C=, the negative far outweighs it. Maybe what we
need to do is get these old, gray, elephant-assed people running C=
replaced by some young blood who would ACTIVELY pursue selling this
machine. (Instead of turning to us to sell it every time someone
prints something false about it or forgets to include it in their
magazine) NUFF said.
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From:         AUBERT@FRFLU51.BITNET
Subject:      PCMCIA for A1200

I saw a PCMCIA-memory card pluged in an A1200 at my local dealer and it works
fine...
My 2c, Stef.
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From:         "The Large Guy with Buckwheat's Hair." <LANDAS88@SNYPOTVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: JRComm and Handshake

Date sent:

>Hello all....
>     It's been a while, but I heard sometime last spring that Jack Radigan
>was working on an update to JR-Comm to make it use more of the features of
>2.04 and better compete with term 2.x  (which I never really liked as
>much as JR-Comm.....JR-comm is just so much easier to use :)
>     Anyone know anything about this?  Surely Jack wouldn't just drop the
>best (in my opinion) terminal program available for regular modem comm. on
>the Amiga (and not far from the best available period).
>
>thing is....now that apple has that, THEY won't sit and wait for other's
>to catch up....they'll keep developing it.  They've had publish and subscribe
>for quite some time already.  This is something the Amiga really needs.  What
>it is:  It creates a link between files.  For instance, say you're workign
>in Pagemaker 4.2 on a document created in Word 5.0a for the Mac (both of
>which I own)...if you subscribe the word 5 document to the PM program,
>any change you make in PM is automatically changed in the word 5 document
>as well.  This is nice for cut and paste graphics into documents as well ;).
>    To tell the truth tho....p&s is the only feature of PM that is really
>any better than the latest version of ProPage that I've seen reviews of.

Hotlinks..... Is begining to be incorperated in almost all DTP software on the
Amiga. Granted MAC had it first but IMHO that is the only place the MAC shines
is DTP.  OTher than that all I see if overpricing on so called advanced
development of things that are either PD/Shareware on other archetrecture or
commonplace.  Ie. Multitasking, or this new AppleScript.......  IT's not bad
for them to add them, but I'm waiting for the lawsuit.  The one where Apple
sues the other guys for IPC.... Wait you say it can't be done IPC has been done
for ages on UNIX.... Well tell Apple the iwth their "Look and Feel" Lawsuit
against Microsoft.  Xerox had look and feel way before Apple thought about it.

-Nyle

>Later,
>Gambit  (Jason E. Cox)
>
>Jason E. Cox                                              (Gambit)
>
>UT Chattanooga Biology Major      Tri-Beta Sigma Chapter President
>
>"When the world is running down, make the best of what's still around"
>                                                               Sting



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Subject:      Re: AddTools Help :)

I think I've tried it in the WBstartup dir. I don't think it ran in
there. I'll try it again... The readme file said something about
NOT recommending that ADDTOOLS be put there.
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From: kschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Karl C Schudt)
Subject: Re: Myth exposed!!!
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:39:29 GMT

In article <921216085948.2020c6ba@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM> URSIC@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM
writes:
>From:         Marty Helgesen <MNHCC%CUNYVM.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
>>1. ....it is impossible for a woman priest to exist ....
>
>>2. ....women can not be ordained .....
>
>>3. ....it is impossible to ordain a woman ......
>
>Three times Marty denies womam's ordination, does this sound familiar
>to anyone? :-) - J.J.

Hmmm, make up an inappropriate analogy, followed with a smiley then your 
initials, does this sound familiar to anyone? :-) - K.S.
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From: bdboyle@erenj.com (Bryan D. Boyle)
Subject: Re: Moral Activity (was Re: Asylum)
Organization: Exxon Research and Engineering Co., NJ
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:35:17 GMT

In article <921215160006.2020bfba@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM> URSIC@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM writes:
>john ocallaghan <jocallag@DARWIN.HELIOS.ND.EDU> writes:
>>Do we or do we not have laws prohibiting murder, theft, and rape, all of
>>which seem to be matters of morality and values.  How do laws designed to
>>prohibit abortion differ significantly in intention from these laws?
>
>The "victim" is not a "legal" person. (just a guess:-) -J.J.
i(here we go again...:-))
define "legal" person.  When does one, in the eyes of the law become
one?  When you are conceived, when birth (at whatever stage...) occurs,
when you reach the age of reason, majority, middle age, or whatever?
If it is an award for making it past the gestation period, with the 
medical profession eager to help the woman "take care of the problem",
then obviously, the ministrations of Dr. Kervorkian are stepping over
the line...oh yeah, I forgot, that is a "choice" too...i would venture
a guess that from the beginning of civilization, the murder of fetuses
has been considered a henious crime.  So much so that even the Romans,
in their debauched state after Christ, considered it a capital offense.
But, then, they were heathens, and not as up-to-date as we are.  Why are
we so concerned about the whales, but we murder our own children, both
before, and after, their birth.

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From: jocallag@bach.helios.nd.edu (john ocallaghan)
Subject: Re:      Re: Moral Activity (was Re: Asylum)
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Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:31:31 GMT

In article <9212210306.AA25351@pegasus.com> Len Howard <tas@PEGASUS.COM> writes:
>John, the physical findings in the first three months after childbirth
>would reduce  efficacy of NFP methodology.  The cervical mucus is
>different as the cervix heals, and there is much distortion of the
>uterus itself, both in position and shape.  After a time, and some
>exercise, the anatomic situation will return to near what it was
>before the pregnancy, and the NFP method can again be used.

Thanks.

>
>Re Abortion.  John, I think I am really just expressing my frustration
>about having to still deal with the problem of abortion and the
>ensuing debate.  It can never by any stretch of the imagination be
>construed as "good".  It is always evil.  The only concern is that
>sometimes it might be the lesser of two evils.  I certainly do not
>wish to make this horrific decision for anyone else.  I don't do
>abortions in my practice, but I do take care of women who have had
>them done by another physician.  That is the essence of our group
>practice.  So I see abortion as a continuing problem.  I merely
>express the personal fatigue with dealing with its many ramifications.
>Abortion is the end of the chain, and the root causes are manifold.
>There are so many societal problems to be solved before we can even
>think of eliminating abortion.  I apologize for my expression of
>personal frustration, John.  I am glad that there are others who will
>pick up the gauntlet.  But we have to battle the whole enemy, not just
>the end result.

No argument here.  Though I'm not sure of the lesser of two evils stuff.
But I understand you have been a little closer to the carnage than I have.
Yes indeed we have to battle the whole enemy, from beginning to end, from
womb to tomb.
>Shalom, John, and have a Blessed Christmas Season.        Len Howard
Peace, shalom, salam.  I think that is what Jimmy Carter said when he
Menachem Begin, and Anwar Sadat shooks hands over the Camp David Accords.
I remember I cried.
Happy Advent.
John


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From:         esler@APOLLO.HP.COM
Subject:      Re: Moral Activity (was Re: Asylum)

While it may be true that "you ought not legislate morality", isn't this
precisely what the various civil rights laws were doing ?

I really think that any laws outlawing abortion can have at least two
justifications.

The first, and by far the more compelling, is to PROTECT the innocent
victims of abortions.  This role of protecting victims is perhaps what
the civil rights laws were intended to do.

A second, and less compelling justification is to educate.  One could
argue that laws have an educative effect.  The analogy with the civil
rights laws might be appropriate here too.  I wonder if the mere
existence of laws making it illegal to segregate and discriminate
against black people changed peoples' attitudes ?

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:42:36 -0500
From:         URSIC@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM
Subject:      Re: Myth exposed!!!

Steve Creps <creps@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU> writes:
>>Three times Marty denies womam's ordination, does this sound familiar
>>to anyone? :-) - J.J.
>   No, but your question reminds me of those who deny the Church's
>teaching even more times.
Well, let me explain it to you then Steve,

It all started when I gave a superficial response to Steve Barr's
superfluous investigation into Martin Berry's supercilious claim that
the pope was not superhuman and was prone to saying dumb things like
the rest of humanity.
Next, Marty gave me a three part rebuttal, each part of which was premised
on the same claim of the impossibility of women's ordination.
I gave another superficial response and jokingly compared him to Peter which
I think is a heck of a lot better than comparing him to Judas which I
think was what originally got Steve Barr riled up against Martin Berry
and caused Steve B. to launch his investigation into Martin's
claim resulting in this whole thread.

Of course, I have been known to miss the point before:-)
Now if your post was only intended to solicit an apology for something
which you found offensive not humorous, no problem, I apologize. -J.J.
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:16:40 -0500
From:         Giulio Silano <gsilano@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Devotion to Mary
              Dec 20, 92 2:42 am

> Len Horn writes:
>
> >I have a copy of the book "True Devotion To Mary" by St. Louis DeMontfort
> >(TAN publishing).
> >Does anyone have experience with this book, I wonder if its
> >really meant for "nonbeginners" in the Christian life ?
> >Is this mainstream, or way out in left field ?
>
>
When it comes to devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort is as
mainstream as it gets (or, at least, used to be).  St. Louis is
responsible for spreading and enriching the rosary devotion.  Read
it with profit, pleasure., and trust.

Giulio Silano.
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From: Marty Helgesen <MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
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Subject: RE: Myth exposed!!!


In article <921215152005.2020fbb4@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM>, URSIC@ASTRO.CS.HH.AB.COM
says:
>
>Stephen Barr <15942@BRAHMS.UDEL.EDU> writes:
>>There we have it. Gregory did not like railways and gas lighting
>>and did not introduce them in the Papal States.
>
>Pope John-Paul II does not like women priests and refuses to introduce
>them into the Papal State. Gee, maybe there's hope yet:-) -J.J.

1. I am not aware that Pope John Paul II has ever said anything about
   liking or disliking the idea of women priests.  He has said that
   it is impossible for a woman priest to exist because God has
   limited the priesthood to men.

2. Pope John Paul has not said that women priests cannot function
   in the Papal States (now Vatican City).  He has said that women
   can not be ordained anywhere in the world.

3. If the ancient Greeks and Romans had had railroads, but from
   Apostolic times the Church had rejected the idea of Catholics
   traveling by rail there would be a partial parallel, but only
   partial.  The difference is that although the ancient Greeks
   and Romans had priestesses they were pagan priestesses and
   did not claim to exercise the priesthood of Jesus Christ.
   In other words, unlike a hypothetical prohibition on using
   ancient railways, the almost 2,000 year practice of the Catholic
   of the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Churches of
   ordaining only men was not a prohibition against doing something
   possible.  It was a recognition that it is impossible to ordain
   a woman, that if a bishop were to perform the rite of ordination
   on a woman it would have no more effect than if he were to perform
   it on an unbaptized man.

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Marty Helgesen
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"Experience beats in vain upon a congenital progressive."
        --  C. S. Lewis
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From: jocallag@bach.helios.nd.edu (john ocallaghan)
Subject: Re: Moral Activity (was Re: Asylum)
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:02:58 GMT

In article <BzBMJq.B4u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> met48546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marc E. Talbot) writes:
>jocallag@darwin.helios.nd.edu (john ocallaghan) writes:
>
>>Do we or do we not have laws prohibiting murder, theft, and rape, all of
>>which seem to be matters of morality and values.  How do laws designed to
>>prohibit abortion differ significantly in intention from these laws?
>>Peace and Happy Advent.
>>John\
>
>They differ significantly.  Go take a poll somewhere in your town.  Ask how
>many people feel there should be laws prohibiting murder, theft, and rape.
>Then ask about abortion.  I think that you'll find a massive agreement
>about the first bunch, and something close to an even split for abortion
>(or maybe a little lopsided, depending where you live).  Most anyone,
>regardless of religious affiliation, will have some set of guidelines of
>things which they feel are right and wrong.  When enough people agree on
>one of these issues, it becomes law.  The reason it needs to become law is
>that some small fraction of the population will not agree to it.
>In the case of abortion, a majority of the people in the US believe that
>it should be legal.  That's why its different from the above-mentioned
>crimes.

So it seems you think that laws prohibiting murder, rape, and theft ought to
be subject to majority opinion.  If for example a community decides that women
ought to be subject to the physical power of men and at the disposal of men
to be raped, and their elective representatives reflecting upon the widespread
opinion their community acted to strike down such laws as prohibit rape, then
those legislators would be acting aright?  No doubt such a community would
be IMHO a pervers and corrupt community.  But perhaps a community that does not
act to protect the most powerless individuals within the human community and
legislate agains abortion is equally pervers and corrupt; and just as I would
hope and pray that in the case of a corrupt and perverse community that approved
of rape, the legislators would do what is right and legislate agains rape, I
against the opinion of the people, so also I hope and pray that in our
community the legislators act to protect the unborn against the widespread
opinion of the community.

Just to thor a few facts in, however, it is true that the majority of Americans
favor the availability of abortion in certain circumstances.  But typically
those circumstances turn out to be fairly restricted, e.g. threat of death,
rape , or incest.  In other circumstances, the approval turns into disapproval, e.g. health, economic conditions, birth defects, backup birth control, and
sex selection.  Given your principles, would you favor legislation p[rohibiting
abortion in those case in which the "majority" disapprove?

Peace and Happy Advent,
John



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