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From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: AM vs FM in hilly areas
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:54:35 CDT


In article <1243@kepler1.rentec.com>, andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt) writes:
> In article <1992Sep11.163354.10468@walter.cray.com> jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll) writes:
> >up on me. The hilliness (which in any case is more extreme than anything
> >in England) is exacerbated in the middle of town by several buildings
> >which are taller than anything else west of the Mississippi.
> 
> Why don't they put the FM transmission antennae on the tall buildings?
> 
> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I thought if you have line of sight
> then FM is just ducky...

Well, the buildings are taller than any other *buildings* around, but they're
not all that much taller than some of the hills, so they put broadcasting
towers on hilltops.

If you have LOS to the transmitter, great; unfortunately, there are a lot of
places in town where the reflection off something else (say, a freeway
superstructure) is nearly as strong as the direct signal. And there are plenty
of places where there might be two or three intermediate hills between you
and the hill to which you want to listen.

The large broadcasters (eg TV) operate repeaters in areas with severe reception
problems out there; unfortunately this doesn't help the spectral congestion.

Jeff Carroll
carroll@reston.cray.com
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:11:25 EDT
Reply-To:     Gerald=Ruderman%HQ%Rational@VINES1.RATSYS.COM
From:         Gerald=Ruderman%HQ%Rational@VINES1.RATSYS.COM
Subject:      re: Tower ID (was Re: Hand-held frequency counter recommendatio

I can't think of any sectional charts that have radio station IDs and freqs on
them. Some may for remote areas. Maybe they all used to. Though most airplanes
are equipped to receiev AM stations in the 200KHz to 1600KHz band the FAA
discourages using broadcast stations for navigation. For the sensible reason
that it is hard to ID the station when receiving it to be sure you are
navigating witht he right one. Aviation stations send a Morse code ID every
few seconds.
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I am planning to buy a scanner from a friend (Uniden Bearcat ??-100,
I don't remember the model). But first, since I am going to move to
Europe in december, I would like to know if the distribution of
frequencies varies a lot from that used in the USA. I vaguely remem-
ber that frequencies around 84-88 MHz are used by police in Spain
but by TV in the USA. These frequencies are not present in this
scanner.

Does any of you know of a downloadable European frequency spectrum
that I might examine to decide if I buy the scanner? Or, if any
of you has a file with this information, could you e-mail it to
me?

I don't know if scanners are legal to use in Europe, but ask
me if I care.

Thanks!

Mikel Forcada
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From: bigsteve@dorsai.com (bigsteve)
Subject: Re: WWCR Program Schedule?
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy, New York's Computer Consulate. +1.718.729.5018
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:21:42 GMT

 
wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin) writes:
 
> Back in December 1991, an on-line WWCR program schedule was sent out to
> the shortwave newsgroup and mailing list. That schedule is now 
obsolete,
 
That schedule took me 2 weeks of pestering and ass kissing to get from 
them, and I was a direct time buyer at the time. It was already oudated 
by the time I posted it.  One show had gone off the air and had a 
temporary replacement. 
 
> After I heard Hauser announce on World of Radio a couple months ago 
that
> WWCR had just sent out a new printed program schedule, I wrote WWCR via
> US mail asking for a copy. I never did receive one or any response at 
all.
 
Typical of the operation down there.  I sent down promos for RNI a month 
ago, they haven't been aired yet.
 
> None of the regular SWL publications (Monitoring Times, Popular 
Communication
> or Hauser's Review of International Broadcasting) that I get have 
printed
> WWCR's current program schedule. This is rather sad...
> 
If neither Glenn Hauser or myself can get a schedule, what makes you 
think the magazines can?  The WWCR schedule changes so fast, it's not 
worth the trouble of making one up.
 
 
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From: harpe@netnews.louisville.edu (Mike Harpe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: SW-77 comments sought
Keywords: SW-77 Sony receiver
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:28:38 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

OK, I have the money, I even have approval from the wife.  I can purchase 
a new receiver in the very near future.  I really like what I have seen 
in open literature about the SW-77.  

I'd like to hear from owners of this unit.  I'll summarize responses.  I want
to know how you rate the unit, where to buy it, etc.  I hope to buy one at
the Monitoring Times convention in Atlanta on 10/2.  Is anyone from the net
going to this?  I haven't seen any mention of it.

Thanks! 

Mike Harpe, N4PLE
University of Louisville

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From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: All India Radio
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:09:06 GMT

vaishnav@zugros.usc.edu (Hirendu Vaishnav)
writes on rec.radio.shortwave:

)In article <2aa6c5d0-12d0rec.radio.shortwave@vpnet.chi.il.us> akcs.mcj@vpnet.chi.il.us (Martin Jose) writes:
)>Has anyone been able to tune into All India Radio in the Chicago
)>land area?  If so, what freq. and time is it on?
)
)What about Los Angeles Area?..

I can't tell much about specific areas since I haven't tried myself.

Here is a pointer to the frequency list.

nic.funet.fi	/pub/dx/schedules/air.txt

Every list posted to this group finds (if I am not mistaken) its way
to that archive.

You may mail the original poster (his addr. is in the list) to know if
he has an updated list. I am sure he is a regular listener. If you
happen to get hold of an updated list, please let me know. Thanks.

)-Vaishnav

Sridhar.
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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Israel from California
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Distribution: ca
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:32:08 GMT

Someone sent me mail about getting Israel from Cal.  I gave
some suggestions and said that I would try their current freqs
here at night.  I lost his address.  Since he also posted
the query here, I hope that he would see it.  Sorry for
wasting bandwisth.

I took a while for me to get to it... sorry, but I've been
working late & even over the Labor Day weekend.  Ugh.

Anywho, I tried last night using the new sched.  I tried the
Hebrew, Arabic & English freqs at 9 & 10 PM, PDT.  No luck.
Odd.  So, I suggest waiting a month or two.  
A quick check of my Grayline map shows Israel in daylight
during that time... so I am pretty sure that is the problem.
A month down the road should change this... that will give
us a few months of Kol Israel.
____________________________________________________________________________
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
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From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Shortwave schedule for UAE Radio from Abu Dhabi
Date: 5 Sep 92 20:47:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave

Schedule for UAE Radio from Abu Dhabi

Valid from 3/5/92 to 5/9/92 (but most/all data probably
still valid...)

Contact:	Abdul Wahab al-Radhwan
		United Arab Emirates Radio
		Ministry of Information and Culture
		Dept. of Broadcasting
		PO Box 63 Abu Dhabi

I got his address and name in the 1992 World Radio TV Handbook and
requested a schedule.  He sent me the schedule, a nice letter, 
and a pretty brochure (in both English and Arabic) about the UAE. 

All times here are in UTC, of course, and all
frequencies are in KHz.

Target	Language	Freqs	From	 To
------	--------	----	----	----
NAm	English		13605 	2200	2400	
NAm	English		15305 	2200	2400	
NAm	Arabic		15305	2400	0200
NAm	Arabic		17855	2400	0200

NWAm	English		17855	2200	2400

FE-J	Arabic		21735	0900	1100
FE-J	Arabic		25690	0900	1100
FE-J	Arabic		17855	0900	1300

FE-A	Arabic		21510	1100	1200
FE-A	Arabic		17855	1200	1400
FE-A	Arabic		15315	1300	1500
FE-A	Arabic		11965	1400	1500

NAfr	Arabic		21515	0700	0900	
NAfr	Arabic		11985	1800	2200

Eur	Arabic		17855	0600	0900
Eur	Arabic		21735	0600	0900		
Eur	Arabic		21510	0900	1300	
Eur	Arabic		13605	1600	1800	
Eur	Arabic		17855	1600	1900		
Eur	Arabic		21735	1600	1700	
Eur	Arabic		11970	1900	2200	
Eur	Arabic		 9770	1900	2200	

ME	Arabic		 9770	0300	0500
ME	Arabic		13605	0300	0700
ME	Arabic		15265	0500	0700
ME	Arabic		17820	1200	1400
ME	Arabic		15265	1300	1600
ME	Arabic		 9760	1500	1800
ME	Arabic		 7215	1700	1900
ME	Arabic		 6180	1800	2200

Ind	Arabic		 9695	0200	0630
Ind	Arabic		 9695	1600	2000

Abbreviations:
		NAm	North America
		NWAm	North-West America
		FE-J	Far East-towards Japan
		FE-A	Far East-towards Australia
		NAfr	North Africa
		Eur	Europe
		ME	Middle East
		Ind	India and Pakistan

Enjoy!
--
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From: rmstrngj@unix1.tcd.ie (John Armstrong)
Subject: Purchasing Shortwave Set In Chicago
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:04:20 GMT

As a  shortwave enthusiast on vacation in Chicago I
would be grateful if anyone could tell the best places
around to purchase such equipment.

Thanks,

JOHN ARMSTRONG




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From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Tower ID (was Re: Hand-held frequency counter recommendatio
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:25:20 GMT

In article <9209111618.AA21930@ratsys.com> Gerald=Ruderman%HQ%Rational@VINES1.RATSYS.COM writes:
>I can't think of any sectional charts that have radio station IDs and freqs on
>them. Some may for remote areas. Maybe they all used to. Though most airplanes
>are equipped to receiev AM stations in the 200KHz to 1600KHz band the FAA
>discourages using broadcast stations for navigation. For the sensible reason
>that it is hard to ID the station when receiving it to be sure you are
>navigating witht he right one. Aviation stations send a Morse code ID every
>few seconds.

They all used to.  The FAA even used to provide lists of local radio
stations across the country, for purposes of navigation.

However, nobody navigates by radio loop these days, now that VOR systems
are in place everywhere.  Well, hardly anybody anyway (I actually have a
good friend who still does, but she's out of her mind in other ways too.
Ask me someday about the flight to Texas that wound up in Antigua due to
improperly IDing a station... I did not enjoy the experience).
--scott
From: crawford@titan.ksc.nasa.gov (David E. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Hurricane Andrew Recovery Radio Station?
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:01:55 GMT
Organization: NASA, Kennedy Space Center

In article <1992Sep11.153517.17296@unx.ucc.okstate.edu>, martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick) writes:
> 
> On the "Media Network" program from Radio Netherlands, there
> was a segment about "Radio Recovery."  A military person said
> that the FCC had told them what frequency to use and that
> they hadn't just chosen one, themselves.  This sounds normal
> for a peace-time operation.
>      Listeners in the area, however, say that there is much
> interference from the "Caribbean Beacon" on the island of
> Anguilla.  There was a brief recording of "Radio Recovery's"
> transmission recorded at about a 25-mile distance.  The
> "Caribbean Beacon" was just about as loud.
>      The "Radio Recovery" personnel say that their 400-watt
> transmitter will be increased to 1KW in a few days.
>      Here in the North-Central part of Oklahoma, I tried to
> listen for "Radio Recovery" on an ICR-71A connected to a
> long-wire.  I heard no sign of "Radio Recovery," but I did
> hear a TIS station broadcasting NOAA weather in the Austin,
> TX area.
> 
> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
> O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group

I heard Radio Recovery last night on 1610 with fade-ups at 0115 and 0125 GMT
with the usual continuous information program.  Reception was poor on a 2010
with the built-in loop, and the station was only audible when Caribbean Beacon
faded out.  This station wasn't previously audible here, so I think they must
have already upped their power.  I'm about 250 miles north of Homestead on the
FL east coast.

David.
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From: kb2glo@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (thomas.kenny)
Subject: Re: Does WWV Give Tours?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 13:44:28 GMT

In article <BuI6Kx.C4v@cmptrc.lonestar.org> carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Carter Bennett) writes:
>In article <BuFAG0.7xA@ais.org> danr@ais.org (Daniel Romanchik) writes:
>>Does anyone know if WWV gives tours?  I am going to be in Fort Collins,
>>CO next month, and would like to see the station.  Does anyone have a
>>phone number I can call.
>
>Long time ago, they did.  Then they had a budget crunch many years ago and
>they stopped the public tours.  But who knows?  Maybe they've been restarted.
>Seems like it might be an on-again-off-again kind of thing, subject to 
>budget considerations (tour-guides have to be paid y'know).

I was out in Denver on a buisness trip a couple of months ago. I got one
of the station engineers on the phone and he informed me that they don't
have the staff to give tours. He did say you can see the antennas from the
road for what that is worth. He also mentioned that there were tours of
the Atomic clock which was at a different site. I believe the Denver white
pages has a NIST tours phone number if you interested in seeing the Atomic
clock. I thought I might have an in when I told the enginner I was a visiting
ham but it didn't help...

73, Tom KB2GLO

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From: sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Digital Subcarriers?
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:40:48 GMT
Distribution: rec.radio.shortwave, rec.radio.amateur.misc, alt.radio.scanner
Organization: Crosfield Electronics Ltd.
In-reply-to: baxter@ed0118.ped.pto.ford.com's message of 10 Sep 92 17:35:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.173534.17664@e3u001.ped.pto.ford.com> baxter@ed0118.ped.pto.ford.com (Gene Baxter) wrote:
> 	I have heard that most FM(commercial) stations also have digital
> subcarriers.  What would be required to receive the signal? Is this like
> the SAP on Television?  What kind of data is sent out on TV subcarriers?
> Any clues would be highly interesting to me.(and maybe others??)

In the UK, FM stereo broadcasts have a 57KHz subcarrier locked to the 19KHz
stereo pilot tone. This carries the RDS (Radio Data System) information.

For those unfamiliar with RDS here's a primer:

RDS = Radio Data System. A system, developed by the BBC, to transmit digital
data within an FM stereo broadcast. This employs a 57KHz carrier locked to
the 19KHz stereo pilot tone. The RDS data includes station id (8 characters
eg. CLASSIC), station frequencies, time of day, and (optionally) programme
type (eg. NEWS, ROCK, JAZZ). Also transmitted are flags to indicate whether
the station will/is transmitting traffic information.

Having located a station, a suitably equipped receiver can retune to the
station's alternate frequencies, if the signal strength falls. Clearly this
is of most benefit to the motorist (biker?!).
It is also possible to select only those stations transmitting traffic info.
This last feature also allows traffic information to take priority over tape
playback. In this case the tape will be interrupted by traffic news.

RDS will, in the future, make it possible to tune the FM band by station name
(eg. find CLASSIC), or by programme type (eg. scan NEWS).

EON = Extended Other Networks. This is an enhanced version of ON (Other
Networks). The Other Networks packet allows the transmission of *other*
station frequencies. This would allow the receiver to interrupt a radio
programme with traffic news from another station. This implementation
allows a radio broadcast to be interrupted by another station's traffic
news.

RDS is a great advance over the (analog) SK/DK traffic news flags broadcast
in Germany.

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From: MSUORANTA@finabo.abo.fi (Mika Suoranta Tkkk)
Subject: Re: Armed Forces Radio Information request
Organization: Turku School of Economics, Finland
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:47:40 GMT
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In <18f1a4INN8ha@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bk233@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:

> 
> My son said that there used to be an Armed Forces Radio program on 6035
> Khz. a few years ago in the evenings and heard here in Cleveland, Ohio.
> 
> Does anyone know if Armed Forces Radio currently broadcasts anything on
> shortwave? 

	As far as I know, AFRTS no longer broadcasts on shortwave. They
	use satellite links instead to feed local AM and FM stations in
	overseas bases.

				73 Mika


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From: MSUORANTA@finabo.abo.fi (Mika Suoranta Tkkk)
Subject: Re: 2010--Good vs Bad
Organization: Turku School of Economics
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:43:31 GMT
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In <o6XLqB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> biga@infopls.chi.il.us writes:

> Hi!
> I've been looking around for a shortwave radio, and so far as I can tell, 
> the Sony 2010 seems to give the biggest 'bang' for your 300+ bucks.  What 
> I'd like to know is: what do YOU think?  What, in your opinion, is the 
> best feature and/or the worst feature of the 2010?  Is it any good for 
> DXing foreign radio?  

	I would rather get Sony 7600. It is about the size of a small
	paperback book, and weight less than half a kilo. It is very
	portable, and I have used that receiver with my 1 watt CW-
	transmitter when I have been camping in some natural parks.

	What do you mean by "DXing"? Are you interested in just major
	international broadcasters such as BBC, Deutsche Welle, or
	Radio Japan, or would you like to hear South America on 60 meters?

	If you want to do "serious" DXing, I would forget the Sony and
	get myself a used ham tranceiver which covers BC-bands. Much
	better performance for less money and you get the transmitter,
	should you want to became a ham radio operator in the future.
                                                          

> Also, I've been thinking of using the $8.95 Radio Shack SWL antenna I've 
> heard so much about.  Does this antenna work well with the 2010??  Does 
> the antenna clip to the whip, or does it plug into the external antenna 
> jack?  Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
 
	I would _never_ pay almost ten bucks for just a 50c connector and
	a few meters of wire. Go to your garrage and take some 10-20 meters
	of wire, old telephone twinlead or whatever you find that conducts
	electricity. I once made an antenna of a piece of barbed wire, and
	it was very good at receiving R.Moscow and Albania :)
        
	Most antennas plug into the ext ant jack, and you can certaily
	find a plug for less than one buck. If you don't have a soldering
	gun, get a plug with screws. A clip or just wrapping a few turns
	of bare (exposed, if otherwise insulated) wire around the whip
	antenna will also do the job unless you are aiming at "serious"
	DXing.

	ARRL Handbook has good info about antennas. I would be most
	surprised if your local library didn't have it.

> Andy  biga@infopls.chi.il.us
> CompuServ (71231,2316)
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> 
> --
> biga@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Kroll)
> Infoplus BBS, +1 708 537 0247, v32bis. Home of Infoplus.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: genef@netcom.com (Gene Fornario)
Subject: Re: BFBS on SW ?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 03:09:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <MIKEC.92Sep14131341@cantor.praxis.co.uk> mikec@praxis.co.uk (Michael Chace) writes:
>Hi Folks,
>
>Does anyone know if BFBS (British Forces Broadcasting) still transmits
>on shortwave ? If so, what are the frequencies ?
>
>Thanks, Mike

A look at the 1992 World Radio-TV Handbook shows BFBS as operating in the
FM band, with transmitters in Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands.

I also checked my 1981 edition and didn't see any shortwave outlets listed
either.  Where were they on shortave?

As a side note: our own Armed Forces Radio and Television Service used 
shortwave up to a few years ago, but replaced it with less expensive
satellite feeds.

Gene--
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