From: math1pf@rosie.uh.edu (Zheng, Ping)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Slaves_and_Beggars
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:29 CST
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>>There are people who decided not to return no matter it's
>>true or not. What name do you have for them? 
>>
>Want_to_be_a_whiteman's_slave Chinese
> 
>>What do you call Chinese Americans? 
>>
>Descendents of slaves

So what? Should they be ashamed of it or revenge for their ancesters?
It's not their fault of being what they are.

>
>>What do you call people who immigrated? Refugees? Slaves?
>>Prostitutes?? 
>>
>If they immigrated from Europe, they are blood brothers
>of the "conquerers of the Americas".

Again,you are accusing wrong people. 

>If they immigrated from Asia, they are beggars.

Some of them did ask for help,but most of them worked out on thier own.
Further more,these beggers are doing as well as,if not better than, 
native Americans.
Don't look down upon yourself if your an asian,and don't look down upon
others if you are not one of the beggers.

>>Do you mean one should rot in his/her small hometown with
>>their ancestors?
>>
>Your house is poor and in bad shape.  You see that your
>neighbor has a beautiful house and lots of delicious food
>inside ... you (typical css member) go to your neighbor's 
>house and beg and plead for him to let you live in his house 
>and you fight viciously with other beggars (other css members)
>for your neighbor's table scraps and leftover foods.
> 
Why did we go through enormous amount of trouble to come here?
Don't you remember the hard work of getting dozends of red stamps
in order to get yur passport? What were you thinking during that 
time? Begging ? Probably is. 

>On the other hand, a person who does not have a beggar 
>or slave mentality of the typical css member would consider 
>the following:
> 
>1) Forcibly enter your neighbor's house.  Severely beat and
>subdue him.  Plunder and enjoy your neighbors house and eat
>his delicious foods at will.  Invite all of your relatives
>to come to your newly conquered house and enjoy life for you
>are now the new master of this beautiful house.  (This is
>the whiteman's method ... of killing the native americans
>and conquering his land)
>

Such deed has been condemned for a hundred years.
Civilized man won't do it,with or without slave mentality.

>2) Struggle hard to make you own house a better place to
>live in ... to make it even more beautiful than your neighbor's
>house.

Looking back to the hard days I am not shamed at all,beacuse I know 
I could never have got out from my poor house had I not go out to 
learn,to fight,and to beg.

>The moral of the story is that the whiteman (by killing
>millions of Americans Indians and stealing his land) has 
>earned his right to enjoy the riches and bounties of America.
>Those Chinese who beg and plead to be able to stay in
>America will always be looked down upon by the whiteman
>as mere beggars and slaves who deserve nothing more than
>table scraps and leftovers.  You will never live in 
>America as equals to the whiteman.
>
I think it it your slave mentality that makes you take it
this way.People are people,we are no angles,including 
whiteman.Why do they have to treat you as their guest ?
You think you are better than table scraps,fine,convince
them,show your work.Sure there are unfairnesses between them and
us,but that is what we are fighting for.Simply leaving here won't 
get you anything,and that will only prove that you are just no 
better than table scraps.
Don't say "always" or "never" for such thing. Who knows.
Look at how African-american's human right has been improved
in less than a century.


>This is a very cruel world.  The only thing that counts
>is power.  Pure and absolute power.  There is no such
>thing as equals among men ... only differing levels of
>strength.  Those who are weak will always be stepped on
>by the stronger.  Begging for mercy is a definite sign
>of weakness and thus serves only to invite further
>abuse from those who are stronger.
>
How much power do you have right now ?
Why are those fighting toward their goals in  lower ladders of the 
soceity beggers in your eyes.
That peple see my weakness is not important,what's important is I
should know whether I really have weakness.