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From: gnome@pd.org (Mike Mitten)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Info. wanted on labia piercings
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:59:09 GMT
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Richard Taylor (rct@fulcrum.co.uk) wrote:
>What statement *are* you actually making? It appears to be a very
>private one (unless you wear a T-shirt saying "I'm pierced").

Now there's an idea!  How about a t-shirt that says:

"Nobody knows I've got jewelry in my dick."

  -Mike

Mike Mitten - gnome@pd.org - ...!emory!pd.org!gnome - AMA#675197 - DoD#522
Irony is the spice of life.     '90 Bianchi Backstreet  '82 Suzuki GS850GL
From: naf@ox.ac.uk (Neil Forrester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: SELECT MAGAZINE
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:04:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Experimental Psychology, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: naf@dragon.psych


Select Magazine this month has a good article on piercing with short interviews
with Mr Lifto, Jennifer from L7 and others. Also has a great picture of L7 on the
cover all chained together throught their various piercings !

N.
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From: danb@daver.mentorg.com (Daniel Boughton)
Subject: Re: Re :nipple Pierce
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:43:57 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

One vote for Ahna here.

In article <1jl5h8INN28v@shelley.u.washington.edu>, miolnir@stein.u.washington.edu (Miolnir) writes:
|> 
|> Greetings, I posted here a little while ago about a nipple pierce
|> and the resonse has been 100% positive (of course this is rab maybe
|> I should ask on soc.bible.thumpers :-)  Anyway, has any one heard of
|> Ahna Edwards? She's comeing up here in a couple of weeks and I thought
|> I might have it dine by her.
|> miolnir
|> 
|> 

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From: clements@stroke.Princeton.EDU (John Brinckerhoff Clements)
Subject: Re: Thanks!!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Bubble-Headed Foo Foo Inc.
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:15:34 GMT

In article <C14u99.8ML@panix.com> erover@panix.com (Elizabeth Rover) writes:
>
>Hi folks! Just a quick note of thanks to everyone who responded to my query
>as to whether or not I should get a labial pierce... the replies were
>overwhelmingly positive. So, I don't think it'll be too much longer... now,
>all I have to decide is if I really only want *one*,
>

	Before you go ahead and do the deed, I'd like to add my
	vicarious vote for the hood piercing mentioned by the earlier
	post--I'm sleeping with one, and its owner is very very
	fond of it.  Generally the piercing is done so that the bead
	hangs directly above the clit, and while the day-to-day
	sensation is not overwhelming, it's a boon in bed.  X-amine
	your options.

john clements
21, jjup nup
From: acase@reed.edu (Andrew Case)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: removing circular barbell in nipple?!
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:57:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan22.045752.15716
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

Beth asks ...
>>I have a very important question about the circular barbell in my left
>>nipple.
>>
>>HOW THE HELL DO I GET IT OUT?

Do you remember which way the needle went through? (I assume that you
are attempting to remove the original jewelry that was inserted when
you got pierced) What I'm getting at here is that the bead that
unscrews is the one on the side of the barbell that was used to push
the needle through (i.e. the bead that is on the side opposite the
entry point of the needle is the one to focus your attention on)

I hope the above is sufficiently coherent to help you figure out where
to focus your attention. You would probably do well to seek assistance,
since getting enough leverage to unscrew the bead on your own might be
tricky. Oh course, you could always try WD-40 ... perhaps a poor idea
to squirt volatile oils onto a piercing, though.

Good Luck. Hope you don't have to resort to bolt-cutters.
......Andrew
-- 
This article was dictated to me in its entirety by the angel Moroni.
From: strickej@ucs.orst.edu (Jesse Stricker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Navel Pierce Healing
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:18:33 GMT
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	I got my navel pierced (at Attitudes, in Portland, though Ahna 
didn't do the piercing.  Her apprentice did, and did a good job).  Got it 
done about two months ago, and as per instructions, put Betadine on it every
day.  It never got really nasty, but never showed any signs of healing past
a crusty stage.

	Ran out of Betadine about two weeks ago, and was too lazy to go get
more.  I was amazed to find that it healed right up.  No daily washing and
cleaning seemed to equal quick healing.  I think it'll be healed up in another
couple of weeks.

	Anybdy else had this happen?  Is Betadine/Hibiclens just a bunch of 
hype?  Or is it important to use it for at least a couple of weeks?

	BTW, I like my navel (my only pierce), except when I got it hit with a
snowball.  Took me 15 minutes to get warm, but it took two hours to thaw the 
ring out.  Painful.
-- 
	"Boymancreature know girlmancreature.  Girlmancreature beautifulwise.
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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Which ear? Why? -- My Story
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:04:43 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1k6rloINNckt@titan.ucs.umass.edu> quilty@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Lulu of the lotus-eaters) writes:
>Back then, everytime I had sex with a different
>person, with whom I hadn't previously, I put another whole in an ear,
>according to the left=het/right=homo code....
>... (but then one of the lefts got infected, and I let it grow
>back).  


Should've used a condom.



-- 
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From: afinke@MtHolyoke.edu (Alice)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: You know piercing is trendy when ...
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:45:19 -0500
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Ben Wing (bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu) wrote:
> I noticed this ad on the back page of the Bay Guardian:
> 
> HEY, GIRL-NEXT-DOOR!
[Stuff about how the place has a surplus of decorated folk sacrificed to
the gods of bandwidth] 
>  We offer flexible
> scheduling around your classes and other jobs, a safe, supportive environment
> in which to explore your sexuality and a high hourly wage.  Start dancing on
> stage at $8/hr. and work your way up to $20/hr. in less than a year!  Or, come
> play in our erotic-talk booth and make up to $50/hr!  You must have long hair
> (shoulder length or longer), no piercings (except earrings) and no tattoos.
> [etc]

And just when I am about to cut my hair and get a nipple pierce...sigh,
life does have its little compromises  :)

Alice
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Which ear? Why?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:31:44 GMT
Organization: sgi
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
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In article <1993Jan27.072454.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca>, comptec90012@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Greg W Burnham) writes:

|> As far as the off balance thing goes, don't most people wear a watch
|> on only one of there wrists?

I don't wear a watch.  They look stupid when your forearms are heavily
tattooed.

FWA
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:03:04 -0500 
From: "Alan S. Ferrency" <af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: septum questions

ok  well.... i  am planing on having my septum pierced and i have a few
quesions ( pardon my grammar).    
  1.  pain factor  ..... comparable to ?.........
  2.   suggested gauge.......
  3.  does it bleed a lot....
  4.  how long is  it sore for...
  5.  does it hurt to sneeze.... can blow my nose
  6.  is it hard to flip the septum retainer up and down  
  7.  how would i clean it 
  8.  was it difficult to push the needle through

  i cant really think of any more questions, if you have any stories to
tell i would love to hear them !!!!   thanx


lisa  ( alan's SO)
From: alpha@w6yx.Stanford.EDU (Alpha Schram)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Looking for female tatoo artist in the Bay Area
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:46:39 GMT
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My mother and I have recently decided that we want to get tatoos, and we
are looking for a female tatoo artist located in the SF Bay Area.  Does anyone
have any suggestions/recommendations?  We don't necessarily need a female
artist if there is someone who specializes in Celtic patterns.

Please e-mail to me, since I don't get to read this newsgroup very often.

Alpha

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From: dprosser@titan.ucs.umass.edu (dp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: amphallangs and other penis piercings
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:25:53 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
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Summary: boston piercer
Keywords: piercings, body art, address

In article <1993Jan21.231006.958@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mtonaszu@lynx.dac.
northeastern.edu (Marc Tonaszuck) writes:
....
>that.  Also, does anyone know of a piercer in or around Boston?  Does
>anyone have first-hand knowledge about him/her?  Any response is
>appreciated.
	
	try ``Innovations In Leather''
		581A Tremont St.
		South End, Boston
		(617) 536-1546
	The piercer is Victoria;  she's great.  She's calm, quick, and
professional.  I've had three pierces from her and hope to do some more.

I don't know how she is on penis piercings;  haven't got one o' those yet
(---I mean, I haven't got a PIERCE there yet;  I've had a penis for quite 
some time now ---you wiseasses :-}).

If you need directions from the T, e-mail me.   
					dp




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From: swanv@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Subject: Re: A gif of one of my tattoos
Organization: We only re-orgainize, weekly!
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 00:15:55 GMT

In article <1jmpcaINN1fb@cronkite.cisco.com> kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae)
writes: About my tattoo.
>
>	That's way cool. I like it!
>

I couldn't agree more strongly ... the tat is awesome, David, ... a really
*fine* tattoo. BTW, thanks, David, for sending the second copy -- I got it 
decoded and it displays fine ... it probably displays on your back better,
though ... :-)   Thanks again.

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From: merithew@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (robert merithew)
Subject: Questions about Tongue Pierces
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:55:30 GMT

I have some questions for the folks with tongue piercings.  (I've read
the faq).

For how long after the pierce was talking painful?  For how long did
you noticably talk funny?  I have to teach for two hours at a time
this semester and want to know how this would affect it...

The faq says that one usually downsizes the barbell after the swelling
goes down.  How long after the initial pierce is this?  Does one
*always* have to downsize?  The nearest piercing place is a bit of a
drive for me - I want to know how much planning I'd have to do.

For how long after the pierce was eating spicy foods a problem?  I
love hot food.

Now that you've had it for a while, how do you like your tongue
pierce?  I really enjoy my other pierces so far...

thanks,

--
  Robert Merithew                                        r-merithew@uiuc.edu
  grad student, Dept. of Physics
  University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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From: mns3h@Virginia.EDU ("Michelle Speir")
Subject: A Cute Story
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:32:10 GMT

Hi Everyone Again!

I'm the one who hesitantly posted my first letter here back in
the beginning of December.  I got quite a few personal E-Mail
responses (which I really appreciated!), one of which was from
a guy in Florida.  Somehow, we really hit it off--sparks flew,
etc.  Lots of e-mail led to an 8-hour conversation on TELNET,
then a 3-hour phone call (!). I was in Germany over the
holidays, and he sent me a very nice package there (including
photos), and upon my return to the States he managed to have a
dozen roses delivered to my house! :-)

It's been a great romance, but it's unfortunate that we live so
far apart.  We do have plans to meet, either over Spring Break
in March, or in the summer.  For now, we're still writing all
the time and call each other occasionally (I'm so afraid of my
phone bill!).

I just thought I'd share that with you guys, since I thought it
was so neat to have something like that happen, all
because of one letter I wrote on an exam-fried Friday night.

Thanks again to everyone who wrote to me!

Shelbo
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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Blackwork / piercing in Stockholm?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:15:45 GMT

Hej RABers from Stockholm,
   where I have been sadly unable to find a single place in town where
I could not take my mother.  Is there anyplace in town that I could
lookinto for blackwork, or a frenum?
   From the land of the bland (gee they all wear such "nice" sweaters)

-- 
Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca| Q: Why did the Jungle Fowl cross the road?          |
Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
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Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
From: SCHWARZ_SM@DIR.TEXAS.GOV (Only 338 days until Christmas!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: nipple pierce
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:59:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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dp writes:
>        I think the only other nipple pierce I would get is to get another 
>one behind my existing one.  BTW, this is possible for some -- on page 111 
>of _Modern_Primitives_, {the Sheree Rose interview} there is a picture of
>a woman's chest.  In addition to the three needles inserted into each 
>nipple, you'll see she has two rings in each one.  

Hey!  I know her! 
Seriously, though, she has since had a pair of vertical barbells put in 
behind both of the rings.  I think her rings are about 8 and 10 gauge, and 
the barbells are about 8 gauge.  She has been pictured in Body Art, and 
also in PFIQ.

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From: jondarr@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (jondarr c g h 2 gibb)
Subject: Dear Heart
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:37:11 GMT


        Dear Heart

Now I, dear Heart, have come to you
  with words of sorrowed love,
I feel there's nothing more to do:
  I hope that was enough.
The things that I had, careless, done
  have put you much in pain
in recent times; the heart you shun
  could never hurt again.

My one and only love, dear Heart,
  if you could but forgive
me my stupidity, I'd start
  to love again, to live;
for all is death without your touch,
  without your loving word.
This heart can miss your love so much,
  with crying left unheard.

I wish that I could hold you now,
  and whisper in your ear
this truth, and hoping that, somehow,
  the words will draw you near,
so I can look into your eyes
  and see the love I knew
again before all loving dies.
  O love of mine, renew!

Be once again my Heart so dear,
  for always I'll be yours,
who never meant to cause tear,
  dear Heart, forevermore.

			24th January
----
 
Begging for forgiveness.
The recipient knows.



                    
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From: bu016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Zita Marie Evensen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: brinkmanship   /  z.
Date: 28 Jan 1993 05:52:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bu016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Zita Marie Evensen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



Another true story ..  crits needed ... send e-mail  ..thanks ahead.
_____________________________________________________________________________

                        
                brinkmanship
             _______________________

on the first day, 
they walked into class
seconds before being chased
by the tardy bell.
four young men ... all seventeen ...
hispanic, black, oriental, persian 
... friends forever, they told me.

they talked in loud whispers as if
they really did not want to disturb others.
but you know they do.
they pretend to be absorbed with
the endless calculations 
of centripetal forces on banked highways
until you hear them snore
behind the dark raybans and oakleys.

they wear gang-like clothing, 'xcept
a bit 'xpensive and off color ...
all prince-of-belair look-alikes,
or kriss kross or boys to men...
they wanna be someone ... something.

they flash gang-like finger hand-signs 
... almost .. 
they wear baseball caps backwards ...
right color, wrong hat ...
right hat .... wrong color, sideways ?
they are seventeen ...they think 
they own the world.

we missed them for a week .
parents came to plead can the boys
come to school again?
they need the education.
heads hung low, the men now boys
sat at their desks ...
faces stitched, scraped, scabbed ...
they crashed a car and escaped
with their lives  ... barely.
between his scalp and skull 
one  walks about with
a bullet lodged on his forehead
from a drive-by shooting  ...
a branding for brinkmanship.

          ***


zita maria evensen
c1993, jan 27th


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From: NAT@drao.nrc.ca (Natalie Prowse)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: sex, beauty, desire, and curiosity / Natalie
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:21:37 GMT
Organization: Dominion Radio Astrophysical Observatory
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	sex, beauty, desire, and curiosity
	---------------------------------------------------------------------
	
	i think we all go through that
	gender confusion
	male and female, both
	pushed and shoved
	into discovering, uncovering, revealing 
	sexuality.
	then questioning why it doesn't feel good
	like it is supposed to.
	like they said it would.
	like the tv and our peers and the glossy mags
	promised in overt insistence.
	(is something wrong with me?)
	but we were only thirteen or fourteen or fifteen.
	when we were seventeen (or twenty)
	it felt much different.
	is that because we willed ourselves
	into believing what they told us
	or because the hormones started flowing?
	or because we finally met someone
	mature enough, experienced enough, caring enough,
	to give as well as take?

	and in that time of confusion
	the enevitable questions arise
	and are often suppressed out of fear
	of being different
	of being outcast.
	social conformity is paramount.
	the right hair. 
	the right clothes. 
	the right sexual preference.

	our bodies stayed hidden 
	in the cloak of misguided morality
	so we stole furtive glances. 
	because we were curious.
	curious about differences.
	curious about sameness.
	curious because we could see
	attractiveness in both sexes.
	what we didn't realize then
	(and what some people never realize)
	is that we can appreciate human beauty
	like the majesty of a jagged mountain range,
	or the vibrancy of a field of billowing poppies,
	without having sexual desire attached.
	
	and when the lust is there
	we feel there must be something wrong with us
	because women are supposed to be different
	women aren't supposed to 'need' it.
	women aren't supposed to 'want' sex,
	they are supposed to use it as a lure
	to attract a mate.  or so they tell us.
	(what will you have to give him after you are married?)
	we are supposed to feel love to feel sexual longing...
	so confusion reigns supreme with guilt as court jester
	until we can look at ourselves, touch ourselves
	accept our wants, needs, and desires,
	without shame.
	

	 	-Natalie / Jan 24, 1993
From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: mirror, mirror
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:39:59 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <420@uiunix.ui.org> donz@uiunix.ui.org (Don Zirilli) writes:
>Gee, Marek, I don't think this is bull.  It seemed sincere to me.  I saw a 
>person behind that non-signature.  That automatically disqualifies it as
>bull.  In your case, however, I do not see a person behind the words, so
>take care to write well and cleverly so that you might not fall prey to the
>same accusation.

Ah, and here we have the age-old problem, Don. Marek isn't putting up and he
isn't shutting up ...  the latter of which is to be expected of a man of, but  
not necessarily admired. Someone, somewhere, perhaps in Lake Monroe or 
Cincinnati, has encouraged Marek, and he has become encouraged.

<sigh> At one time poetry ... oh, why bother? ... I can no longer continue
the charade. Don, the apex of contemporary poetry lies not in the musty
halls of academe, nor along a chilled Carmel beach, but on this very computer
network. You have found poet's Valhalla ... 

Dan
From: gt7244c@prism.gatech.EDU (John G'alt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: the premitical moratorium / g'alt
Date: 21 Jan 93 04:22:08 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech


   the Premitical Moratorium

   come all, come one
   set out your premises well
   here on the wet pavement of morals
   
   they come down
   all implicit promises
   to sit with you well
   soaking on your laurels

g'alt
hatemail welcome
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From: stw7228@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.T. Willis)
Subject: with laptop... Sere'
Reply-To: stw7228@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:12:51 GMT


looking both,
all, ways
i tucked you 
tightly beneath
my high 
fashion 
custom 

If they knew
now
how close we were
they would seperate
us, for sure

								Sere'

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