From: edquist@eng.umd.edu (Karl T. Edquist)
Subject: Re: John Madden '93 player names
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:58:05 GMT
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In article <1992Dec17.194826.23758@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, cg@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.gavinelli) writes:
>In article <KHHVBT6N@cc.swarthmore.edu>, rutley1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Ro Utley) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec13.164131.27415@eng.umd.edu>, edquist@eng.umd.edu (Karl
>> T. Edquist) writes:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > In article <92346.1238243IU6YVN@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, John Meixner <3IU6YVN@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>> > >Has anyone compiled a list (full or partial) of the player names for JMF '93?
>> > >
>> > >And how are you supposed to figure out who some of the Madden Greats, etc.,
>> > >are? Most are obvious, but some could be a couple of people, no?
>> > >
>> > >If such a list does not exist, I suggest we start one.
>> > >
>> > >John Meixner
>> > 
>> > Here's some on offense that I'm pretty sure about.
>> > 
>> > #21 - Cliff Branch (Raiders)
>> > #16 - Joe Montana (49ers)
>> > #34 - Walter Payton (Bears)
>> > #44 - John Riggins (Redskins)
>> > #80 - Jerry Rice (49ers) or Steve Largent (Seahawks). Probably Rice.
>> > #87 - Dave Casper (Raiders)
>> > #25 - Fred Biletnikof (sp?) (Raiders)
>> > #89 - Mark Bavaro? (Giants)
>> > #20 - Barry Sanders? (Lions)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Defense
>> > 
>> > #58 - Jack Lambert (Steelers)
>> > #32 - Jack Tatum (Raiders)
>> > #28 - Darrel Green (Redskins)
>> > #59 - Jack Ham (Steelers)
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I can't remember any other numbers right now.  Maybe someone can post all the numbers
>> > and we can fill in the blanks.
>> > 
>> I hate to bust your bubble, but the Madden Greats are made up solely of
>> players from the 8 greatest teams of all time. So, #20 is Joe Morris (HB#1
>> from New York '86), etc. Rice wasn't on SF '84, so he isn't on the Madden
>> Greats Team. If you look in the playbook, you'll probably see a #80 on one
>> of the greatest teams with similar stats.
>> 
>> -Ro 


>
>Ro
>
>	Where did you hear that the Madden Greats are a subset
>of the Greatest Ever teams? I could understand that logic in a way
>because that is how the All Madden team is made up. I'm not positive
>that you are right about that.

I don't think the Greatest Ever Team is a subset of the 8 All-Time Greats.
Of course, I haven't bothered to see if this is stated in the manual.
As an example, who else would #92 be besides Reggie White?  

>
>	As has been mentioned, the All Madden team should have
>players whose stat line is a subset of a 1992 player. As has
>been mentioned, this is not the case. In my opinion, that
>was a sloppy job by EA.
>
>	I am following up on Karl's original request...
>
>
>QB1	16	Montana
>QB2	12

Definitely Bradshaw or Staubach.  Have to check their ratings.

>
>HB1	34	Payton
>HB2	20 	Barry Sanders
>FB 	44	Riggins
>
>WR1	80	Rice
>WR2	21	Cliff Branch
>WR3	84

Could this be Gary Clark?  I know how Madden loves this guy.

>WR4	25	Bietnikoff
>TE1	87	Dave Casper
>TE2	89	Kellen Winslow
>
>LT	78	Art Shell
>LG	63	Gene Upshaw
>C	52

Has to be Mike Webster
	
>RG	73
>RT	66

Joe Jacoby

>
>Defense
>
>LE	92	Reggie White
>LT	75	Joe Green
>RT	54	Randy White
>RE	95 	Richard Dent
>
>LLB	59	Jack Ham
>MLB	58	Lambert
>RLB	56 	L. Taylor
>PLB	83	Ted Hendricks
>
>SS	42	Lott
>FS1	32	Tatum
>RCB1	47	Blount
>LCB1	28	Darrel Green
>RCB2	24	Willie Brown
>LCB2	22

Mike Haynes

>FS2	45

Dennis Smith?

>
>K	7	Morten Andersen
>P	8	Ray Guy
>
>KR	30
>PR 	81
>

Billy 'White Shoes' Johnson?
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