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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 22 Jan 1993 23:53:35 EST
From: <IO00187@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Son of Stimpy (an R&S epic)
 <1993Jan20.064447.15900@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
 <1993Jan20.081023.3017@sol.cs.wmich.edu> <C15ytu.J1s@news2.cis.umn.edu>

I totally agree that the non John K. shows are bogus.  Nickelodeon didn't know
what they were in for when they hired him!  I got a chance to  hear him speak l
ast weekend, and he IS a major creaive god!  Here's  some neat info: "Son of St
impy" was originally called "Stimpy's First Fart," George American's real name
is George LIQUOR American, John K. does have fetishes for Logs and Yaks, "Don't
 whiz on the Electric Fence" is really called "Don't pee on..." (go figure!).

More importantly, he's going to start a new show, syndicated in movie theatres,
 called "Jimmy the Happless Boy."  Jimmy has a different handicap in every scen
scene (how un pollitically-correct!), and carries a cheese sandwich in his elev
ator shoe.  Another segment will feature a super-hero pig whose only weakness i
s getting marmelade smeared on his butt!  I hope this will be as good as POWDER
ED TOAST MAN!!!!!  He thinks this concept is better than  Ren n' Stimpy, but I
don't see how he could ever beat them!

I hope I haven't duplicated any info already on the board (I haven't read most
of the other notes).

                    Stifman
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
From: gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis)
Subject: Re: Powdered Toast Man (was: re: Baby Scam)
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:44:30 GMT

Paul Fidler (paul@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM) wrote:
: In article <squippy.0548@redorc.chi.il.us> squippy@redorc.chi.il.us (Sean Cou
rtney) writes:
: >What the HELL was wrong with Powdered Toast Man?  I saw both--the actual
:
: Assuming you mean, "Why the HELL have they censored it?", I believe it
: probably has something to do with (in the episode):

Censored nothing! They plain ain't showin it!   8-)

George Cifrancis
gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org
From: seeker@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Son of Stimpy (an R&S epic)
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:01:52 GMT
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science

Organization: University of Maine Department of Computer Science
Subject: Re: Son of Stimpy (an R&S epic)
Keywords: 

In article <1993Jan27.084007.25606@jcnpc.cmhnet.org>, gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis) writes:
|>  (IO00187@MAINE.MAINE.EDU) wrote:
|> : I totally agree that the non John K. shows are bogus.
|> 
|> What non-John K. episodes??  They haven't shown any yet!!
|> Son of Stimpy was the last thing they showed and he wrote and
|> directed it.  Just because it isn't directed by him doesn't mean
|> he isn't involved with it.  It may be a while before we see a
|> non John K episode given how long it takes to do them.

Yep, true.  As far as I know, Nickelodean may have finished an 
episode or two (such as haunted house) but John K. originated 
all of them.  "Don't look for any new episodes for at least
a year" John K. says...its gonna take Nick time to find an animation
studio to create the new toned down cartoons...

"Start Screaming"
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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: ren & stimpy are not gay 
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:06:27 GMT

In article <C0x4Kr.2yG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mlandaue@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael C Landauer) writes:
|And even if Ren's actions in "Son of Stimpy" were meant to expressed
|homosexual desire for Stimpy, this was just one episode.  In one of the
|space episodes, an alien came to their tent, posing as a female chihuahua
|and Ren was very attracted to *her*.

Exactly how do we know the "female" was not a TV chihuahua or in drag?

Personally, I don't think R&S are gay (at least not in most episodes), but it
wouldn't bother me any if they were.  I wouldn't be surprised at all if they
were gay in some episodes, bi in others, and het in still others, and asexual
in the rest.  There isn't any continuity in anything ELSE in the series, why
should there be any continuity in sexual orientation?

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Old programmers never die.  They just branch to a new address.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 23 Jan 1993 10:53:57 EST
From: <IO20467@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Answer (to Question)

that's quite a coincidence, that r&s's parents are from hollywood, yugoslavia
because, according to john k... r&s are from HOLLYWOOD, CZECHOSLOVAKIA...
strange... the families must like hollywoods...
From: sl7sg@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Source of Happy Happy Joy Joy song lyrics
Date: 21 Jan 93 02:11:19 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <squippy.053w@redorc.chi.il.us>, squippy@redorc.chi.il.us (Sean Courtney) writes:
> Well, I don't know if any of you caught Dr. Demento's Funny 25, but "Happy
> Happy Joy Joy" was #1--I didn't even know he HAD that song--it's been a long
> time [about 6 months] since I last listened to him.  
> 
> I also heard the "Log" commercial on a later edition of the Dr. Demento Show. 
> Does this mean that these songs are available to the public?  I WANT 'EM!!!

	Probably not, each dr demento show is a pre-recorded segment, sent to
the radiostations on a record, weekly.  The radio stations don't have control
over any of the record (other than pauses for commercials...)  You *might* be
able to convince a dj buddy of yours to record it, if they sent it back to the
station...


		Brandon
From: atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Anti-cartooning
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:42:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


aldavi01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Arlie Davis) writes:

>> that modern society and Keynesian capitalism have stripped people of their
>> individuality and common sense;

>Nonsense.  Capitalism, /true/ capitalism, is a Good Thing.  The problem is
>that we do not operate under capitalism.  Capitalism, socialism, communism,
>and even a few other isms might have worked, /if/ they used the way they were
>meant to be used, and if they weren't weakened and tainted by mixing with
>other systems.

Except that, historicaly, the most sucessful systems have been (and
continue to be) mixed systems (like ours here in the U.S.).  The problem
with those pure theories is that they work only in theory.  Of course,
absolutely none of this has sh*t to do with R & S, so . . . get ON weeth
eet, man!
-- 
  __     | atario@cats.ucsc.edu | "Oh no!  Toonces, look out!  AIIIEEEE!"  --SNL
 (_      | Delphi:  ATARIO      | "This is only an exhibition.  This is not a
 __)teve | "Happy happy!        |  competition.  So please . . . no wagering."
         |  Joy joy!"  --R & S  |              --Late Night with David Letterman
From: yantosca@buast7.bu.edu (Robert Yantosca)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Son of Stimpy: Thirty Minutes of Garbage
Date: 29 Jan 93 02:05:32 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1993Jan28.214105.2671@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> rjp1@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (be here now) writes:
>Hey, dintcha even notice when Santa farted?  When do we ever get
>such *quality* broadcasts??  If it wasn't for this show..

The impression I got from that scene was that Stimpy, in looking for his
"son", stuck his nose into a certain place where he thought his son might
be.  Although we don't see that happen, we do hear the change in intonation
in St. Nick's voice.

Bob Y.

P.S.  Is it just me or does the new soundtrack to "Sven Hoek" suck eggs? 

-- 
"The Doctor" Bob Yantosca        |  "It's DIS-CI-PLINE that begets love!!!"
 Graduate Student and Time Lord  |  "You must learn your PLACE!!!"
 Boston Univ. Astronomy Dept.    |     -- Ren Hoek reprimands George Liquor,
 yantosca@bu-ast.bu.edu          |        American ("Man's Best Friend")
From: at808@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Corrigan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Anti-cartooning
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:01:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Here is an article we are not likely to see soon under the heading
"Animation" in any encyclopedia. But then, maybe we will. Who knows?
Animation:
   THE NEW CARTOONS. In the 1990's a new type of cartoons generally
known as anti-cartoons or cartoons of the absurd emerged in the U.S.
The trtansition to this form can be seen in Ralph Bakshi's "Mighty
Mouse" and Matt Groening's "The Simpsons". The mature absurdist
cartoons are best represented by the cartoons on MTV's "Liquid 

Television" and John Kricfalusi's "Ren and Stimpy".
   Like the postwar French theatre of the absurd, which reflected
the cynicism of the post-war era and the senselessness, in the view
of Samuel Beckett, Eugene Ionesco, and other playwrights, of the
human condition, the absurd cartoons reflect the cynicism and despair
of the post-Cold War era and the senselessness of life in the late
20th century. The absurd theatre and the absurd cartoons have the
same message: that life is pointless; that those that still uphold
conventional values are stupid (like Stimpy) or hypocritical (like
the characters on "The Simpsons"); that modern society and Keynesian
capitalism have stripped people of their individuality and common sense;
that, therefore, everyone today is either mad (Ren) or naive and
stupid (Stimpy); and that communication between modern people is
impossible.
   The two also use the same devices. Both have either ridiculous
or even non-existent plots (as life is absurd and pointless); characters
lose their realism and individuality (as modern people have), becoming
either amoral psychotics (like Ren and Bart Simpson) or automatons
(the couple in "Rubber Nipples"), as people are either insane, robotic,
or both; dialogue is senseless and cliche-filled, to reflect the
meaninglessness of modern speech; and normal values are torn to shreds
(witness Powdered Toast Man, the reflection of the modern hero, pledging
as President to relieve people of their rights; message: there are no
more heroes). 
   It is perhaps to be expected that two times and places (post-war
France and 1990's America) with similar amounts of despair and feelings
of meaninglessness after the defeat of 
of evil would produce such similar art forms. It is also to be expected
that both would be shocking in their day (but of course, they were
not meant to reassure; they were meant to shake us up.) We may also
predict that absurdism in cartoons will die a natural death as times
improve, as absurdism did in the theatre in the 1960's. But we may
expect the influence of the absurd to remain in cartoons for some
time to come.
-- 
Paul Corrigan, at808
HHS Class of '94
Looking forward to the Clinton Administration...
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From: whoward@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (Will Howard)
Subject: Re: Anti-cartooning
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:37:43 GMT

In article <1k265kINNtk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> at808@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul
Corrigan) writes:
>
>Some criticisms answered:
>   1. The term "anti-cartoon" I made up. It's an analogy to "anti-play",
>the term Ionesco applied to his first play, _The Bald Soprano_, which
>made fun of other plays and of the banality of middle-class existence.
>(If you haven't read it, do so. It's a scream.) The middle-class couples
>in the play talk in cliches, saying nothing that means much or even
>makes sense (much like the married couple in "Rubber Nipples"--_that's_
>what I meant by automatons; they simply repeat a few cliches, giving
>no indication of intelligence). R+S does the same; the cartoon makes
>fun of other cartoons, and of modern existence.
>   2. Stimpy, true, isn't irredeemably stupid, and is, by most standards,
>more moral than Ren, or even many people I could name. What matters,
>though, is what Ren (and John K.) think of him. He's _too_ nice,
>totally unsuited to life in a meaningless universe where it doesn't pay
>to be moral. Stimpy is portrayed as a fool, much like Berenger is
>portrayed as a fool in _Rhinoceros_ (another Ionesco play). Berenger
>is the last human to retyain his identity in a world where everyone
>has turned into rhinoceroses. To us, he is a hero for staying human.
>To Ionesco, he is an eeediot. "Who's he trying to kid? Nobody cares!"
>says Ionesco. 
>more later, I'm about to be cut off...Aaaaaaaaa...

Could it be that all this discussion of "anti-cartoons" is reading too much
into them? Maybe they're just "funny." (Try deconstructing "funny" all you
semioticists out there). Cartoons really haven't changed all that much from
Looney Tunes to Ren and Stimpy. The funniest (to me) R&S cartoons are really
quite reverent tributes to Tex Avery, Chuck Jones,  Bobs Clampett and McKimson,
et al.  I was watching "Haredevil Hare" recently (Bugs gets rocketed to the
moon), and "Marooned" is  clearly a thinly-veiled homage to that and other
"space" cartoons (Duck Dodgers in the 24 and a half Century, etc.). So sit
back, relax, and enjoy.

Will "GET ME OUTA HEEEERE!!!" Howard

"Did I find out anything? Did I ever! This thing makes the coolest noises!"
From: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Ren & Stimpy and "Studs"
Date: 22 Jan 1993 03:03:13 GMT
Organization: The Lutefisk Watch, Virile Resources Office
Reply-To: bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, L630391@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM () says:
>Somebody at work told me that they were watching that highly intellectual, yet
>family-oriented show, Studs the other night.  On the show, one of the "studs"
>said he was an animator for the Ren & Stimpy show.  Is this someone we know,

Hmm.  Could be, could be.  Spumco, according to John K himself, has after 
all been dedicated to producing Manly Cartoons (TM).  I'd think anyone who
works or has worked there would be about as studly as they, er, come.

>[...]
>Insert clever phrase or quotation here.

Ok:  _Ren & Stimpy_ has gotten me laid, yes!
                       - `Rocco' C. Reccardi
                          The Screaming Lederhosen

-- 
bw462@cleveland.freenet.edu            "It's funny because it's true."
                                       - Homer [7F13], Fat Tony [8F03]
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From: manderso@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (anderson mark david)
Subject: Re: Cat and Mouse episode question (?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:12:08 GMT

zinkin@acsu.buffalo.edu (David R Zinkin) writes:

>Are you sure you don't have a friend named Donald Wildmon?  (For the
>uninitiated, the Rev. Donald Wildmon is the one who saw Mighty Mouse
>smelling a flower and insisted that MM was really sniffing cocaine.)

No, that's not his name...  But let's just say that they're "personally"
interested.  :)

Mark
From: billt@verite.esd.sgi.com (Bill Torzewski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Son of Stimpy: Thirty Minutes of Garbage
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:01:22 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: verite.esd.sgi.com


In article <93022.105110SRH123@psuvm.psu.edu>, SRH123@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> I'm sorry, folks, I think this has to be the *WORST* episode of R & S EVER.

  I have to disagree. I loved SoS, it went beyond any of the other cartoons,
  it added a sense of real drama and emotions, but very much tongue-in-cheek,
  (or tongue-hanging-out). All those tear-jerking moments because of stimpy's
  lost fart, this was absurdly wonderful. A strange feeling, getting misty-eyed,
  and at the same time laughing at the ridiculousness of it.
  The quality of the animation was great, the special touches to make it dramatic
  such as stimpy wearing a scarf walking into the snowy night, his extra round
  body with those big eyes crying himself to sleep. Real genius at work here.
  Also, the use of the classical and christmas music put just the right touch to
  the atmosphere.

  I think this episode is destined to be one of the Christmas classics, like
  "The Grinch Who Stole Christmas", and should be shown as often as
  "It's a Wonderful Life". 

> 
> This episode has forced me to reevaluate my thoughts on the whole show.  What
> started out to be a creative, innovative show that pushed limits and made me
> laugh at the vulgarity of human nature (including myself) has now become a
> showcase for the sick and deranged.

  You're drawing a fine line here, at what point does the vulgarity stop being funny
  and start becoming sick and deranged? Does it matter which part of the body the 
  grossness comes from?
> 
> I thought "Haunted House" was stupid.  I thought the episode with the dog show
> was pointless and twisted (in a bad way).  I long for the old days of funny
> jokes and good animation.  Any thoughts on any of this ramble?
> 

  I'll agree "Haunted House" was lame. I think the newer cartoons are showcasing
  less interesting characters, like the ghost, the ringside announcer in the
  wrestling one, and especially the sheriff and deputy in "Out West".
  Just speculating, but perhaps a new animator is pushing in his/her ideas of
  what a cartoon character should be?

>          -- Scott "I have no clever exit-line" Hnasko

-- Bill "neither do I" Torzewski.
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From: s14086nd@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Man with no taste
Reply-To: s14086nd@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:06:21 GMT

Just a quick note to those of you out there that worship Ren & Stimpy:

There seems to be a certain someone, by the name of Stephen H. Sussman,
who has a distinct attitude problem, not to mention no sense of humor,
nor taste in television.  If you need to see it for yourself, read
soc.penpals message number 4150.  He insists on needlessly bashing one
of the best shows on television today.  

If you would please drop him a little note letting him know how wrong he
is, I would greatly appreciate it, seeing as he wrote me directly
instead of posting on the network. 

His address is SUSSMAN@CS.CORNELL.EDU

Thank you,

- Nancy =)
From: yantosca@buast7.bu.edu (Robert Yantosca)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: George Liquor Theme Music
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:38:29 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Could one of you classical music fans enlighten me as to the title of
the George Liquor 'theme song'?  This is the song that is played while George
bounces home in MBF, and when he is being judged in Dog Show.  

Muchos Thanx

-- 
"The Doctor" Bob Yantosca        |  "It's DIS-CI-PLINE that begets love!!!"
 Graduate Student and Time Lord  |  "You must learn your PLACE!!!"
 Boston Univ. Astronomy Dept.    |     -- Ren Hoek reprimands George Liquor,
 yantosca@bu-ast.bu.edu          |        American ("Man's Best Friend")
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Baby Scam
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:49:01 GMT
 <squippy.0548@redorc.chi.il.us>  
 <1993Jan21.220946.11529@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1993Jan21.220946.11529@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
med2062@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.E. Donnaruma) writes:

> >Hmmm...."Big Baby Scam"---that's an episode where J.R. "Bob" Dobbs makes a
> >guest appearance, the same guy who bought the rubber nipples...
> >
> >"Rubber Nipple Salesmen"---"Bob" again!  They say that "Bob" is the ultimate
> >salesman.  Ya know, the only person that Ren and Stimpy were able to sell to
> >was "Bob."  Could John Kricfalusi be a SubGenius?  Is THAT why they fired him,
> >perhaps??
> >
>     I like the name Mr. & Mrs. Pipe better for the couple that bought
> the nipples, hired Stimpy as a mouse catcher, and adopted R&S
> (unknowingly). 

Yeah, me too...just where did the name J.R. "Bob" Dobbs originate
anyway?  I don't recall it being used in any of the episodes.

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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From: gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis)
Subject: Re: Another VOTE AGAIN UPDATE!
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:31:18 GMT

Matador of M83 (126580828@vill.edu) wrote:
: In article <22JAN199313450931@vill.edu>, 126580828@vill.edu (Matador of M83)
writes...
: ATTENTION REN AND STIMPY FANS!!!!
:
: It is time for another VOTE AGAIN! update! For those of you who do not know,
: I, The Matador of M83, am taking votes on the WORST episode of R&S! 

WHY???  Why not just the BEST episodes??  It's  not like there has been any
bad R&S episodes.  They all have had their moments.

: the largest gainer was Haunted House and has slimmed down the margian! The
: Funniest comment of the period "I voted for Big Baby Scam because Ren was dra
:   wn with human limbs!"

Now there is a stupid reason if ever I heard one.  The scenes with the human
limbs were showing the point of view of the parents! Bloated sacks!

George Cifrancis
gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org
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From: bmorrell@nx10.mik.uky.edu (william b morrell)
Subject: Re: R&S Auction Update
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:20:16 GMT

In <1993Jan20.132306.10029@iscsvax.uni.edu> steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>Just a couple of days left.  The highest bid is $25 dollars for the bagged Ren
>and Stimpy #1 with both Air Foulers by Ken.  The regular version is sold out
>from the distributors.  I also have a couples of those with just one Air
>Fouler.  Also taking bids on those if you missed it when it came out or if you
>just want another!

>Jason

>steffen@iscsvax.uni.edu


I don't know where you got your copies, but the only copies available came
with ONE of the two different air foulers sealed in the bag with the comic,
NOT TWO.  If you got one with two different ones, it's probably a
forged copy (dealer wants to make a buck with a "rare" edition, opens two
bagged R&S #1s and puts the two foulers into one bag and reseals it. Voila,
instant "rarity").
 
The second printing just came out about two weeks ago, btw and can be
identified by the cover, which reads, to the effect,
"Stimpy you fool. It's a second printing. It's worthless"
whereas the first printing said
"Stimpy you fool. You opened the bag. Now it's worthless".
 
The second printing is not bagged and does not include the air foulers.
 
Bill Morrell
 
 

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From: edward@twg.com (Edward C. Bennett)
Subject: Re: Lost Episodes
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:13:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.070404.29856@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis) writes:
>
>... Nick refuses to show are ... "Son of Stimpy" (which MTV just showed).

Will they ever show it again?

-- 
Edward C. Bennett					edward@twg.com
The Wollongong Group					(415) 962-7252
1129 San Antonio Road, Palo Alto, CA 94303
   "He's become a growling, snarling mass of white-hot canine terror"
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