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From: bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
Subject: Re: Beards vs. Make-up
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:46:58 GMT


In article <By6Gt5.FF7@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
|> In article <By5zs1.H4s@iai.kfk.de> seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner) writes:
|> 
|> >That's an interesting point. Psychologically, men who have beards want to
|> >hide something, they don't want to "show their face".
|> 
|>   Who told you this?   Why do you believe it?
|> 
|>   I have a beard because it takes less time and effort to maintain
|>   than shaving.  Instead of having to shave every day I just trim
|>   it once every two weeks.  

Ahhhh, so you [all] are lazy too, huh?

:-)


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Information Management			Carnegie Mellon University
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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell)
Subject: Re: Points to Ponder: The Quality of Life
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:24:55 GMT

>odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>
>>  - The return of the double neon-tubed bench thingy, seen in darn near every
>>    lab in TNG so far!
>

I remember that thing from THE LAST STARFIGHTER and I think it was used
in the Buck Rodgers tv show. Boy that thing gets around!!!

Flip


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From: david@cats.ucsc.edu (David Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Quality of Life
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:26:02 GMT
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possible spoilers for Quality of life


This episode was watchable, although painstakingly slow and unbearable
for the first 40 minutes, with absurd commercial breaks and
predictable routines. However, in the last 20 minutes, there was some
interesting things going on to keep the episode from going into the
red. 

If this was the worst of the season, we would be OK. I think the
writers are doing this on purpose to wean us away from the show.
I hope they don't make DSP on video tape.
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From: fjs@wyatt.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: re: Vulcan actress and Worf's mate
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:27:09 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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In article <1992Nov17.155900.17456@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, s_goetz@irau33.ira.uka.de (Oliver Goetz) writes:
>In article <g92n3258.68.721916186@giraffe.ru.ac.za>, g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
>|> Besides "Sarek" and "Unification", they appear in "Encounter at Farpoint" 
>|> and "Conspiracy"
>
>Don't forget the Vulcan doctor in "The Shizoid Man". However,
>she had a strange name for a Vulcan woman (no T').
>
>                                |  "Ich kann mit einem
>Oliver "Oli the Grate" Goetz    |   Eierloeffel Fledermaeuse toeten!"
>  (s_goetz@ira.uka.de)          |                     - Monty Python


And.......if anyone didn't notice.....the same actress who played the Vulcan in
'The Shizoid Man' is, IMHO, the same actress who played Worf's mate.

Anyone else care to comment?

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University
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From: kps@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Subject: Re: Nannites Vs Borg
Reply-To: kps@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:56:20 GMT

In article <Bxu3uy.7IL@news.ucs.mun.ca> glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:
>ohdav@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (David OH) writes:
>
>>I saw the episode 'Evolution' yesterday (we are way behind on TNG seasons)
>>and thought that the nannites (right spelling??) could be an effective
>>weapon against the Borg. Imagine if these mechanical viruses got onboard 
>>the Borg ship! Hmm....any comments?
>
>	I believe this was mentioned as a way a possible way of fighting
>the Borg in one of the "Best of Both Worlds" episodes.  However, it was
>ruled out as a possibility because it would take too long to make 'em or
>something.  So we may indeed see this weapon used against our favorite
>collective consciousness in a future show (continuity in TNG?! ...
>wierder things have happened!) 

And in Vendetta...<spoiler alert>

	The nanites had lawyers!  The federation appointed them lawyers to
look out for their best interests.
From: jpw@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Sux
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:11:46 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA


I have to agree with the original writer of this comment...

I wanna see the E fight in a battle that was similar to TOS:BOP, or TWOK. They
have been fighting lissians and the like far too much. They have never even
done REAL battle with a romulan ship.

Let's see the ship do its stuff!

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From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Fountain of Youth? I think not.
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:46:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Nov12.182550.321@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>
>"Rascals" SPOILERS AHEAD!
>
>
>This Fountain-Of-Youth business doesn't worry me at all as I doubt the
>Enterprise crew or anyone else could duplicate the energy field that created
>the abberant transporter effect successfully based on the limited data they
>had about its nature, not to mention suspiciously convenient origins, which
>didn't get explained you'll notice.



Weeeeelll, if Doctor Crusher could put the RVN back IN, I'd assume she could 
take the RVN back OUT again... or at least just a sufficient supply as to 
reduce the person's age to whatever they desire.  

Maybe they should try this on Data's head...   :^)


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Subject: re: Where are the VULCANS on TNG?
From: Jeffrey S. Payne <JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:55:34 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <g92n3258.68.721916186@giraffe.ru.ac.za>, g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za
(MR RL NICOL) says:

>Besides "Sarek" and "Unification", they appear in "Encounter at Farpoint"
>and "Conspiracy"

Also First Duty (on the review board) and the episode where data is possessed
the old guy that was Soong's "friend" (the vulcan doctor mmentioned beofore)
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From: jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway)
Subject: Re: Picard's accent
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: NCSA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:36:15 GMT

In article <168A3DE89.97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu>,
97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu wrote:

(stuff deleted)

> Why is it so impossible to
> imagine that Jean-Luc's parents or grand-parents or great-great-grandparents
> moved to England and that Jean-Luc never lived in France?
>  
> Patrick at WSU
> Est-ce que tu etudes francais?

Because Picard *did/does* live in France!  This is mentioned in many
episodes, the one where he goes home (Family?) being the most obvious. 


James 
jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Univ of Illinois @ Urbana/Champaign
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From: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Ron Beck)
Subject: re: Vulcan actress and Worf's mate
Reply-To: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com
Organization: is an esoteric concept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:46:43 GMT

In article <1eb6gtINN79b@wyatt.ksu.ksu.edu>, fjs@wyatt.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Nov17.155900.17456@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, s_goetz@irau33.ira.uka.de (Oliver Goetz) writes:
|> >In article <g92n3258.68.721916186@giraffe.ru.ac.za>, g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
|> >|> Besides "Sarek" and "Unification", they appear in "Encounter at Farpoint" 
|> >|> and "Conspiracy"
|> >
|> >Don't forget the Vulcan doctor in "The Shizoid Man". However,
|> >she had a strange name for a Vulcan woman (no T').
|> >
|> >                                |  "Ich kann mit einem
|> >Oliver "Oli the Grate" Goetz    |   Eierloeffel Fledermaeuse toeten!"
|> >  (s_goetz@ira.uka.de)          |                     - Monty Python
|> 
|> 
|> And.......if anyone didn't notice.....the same actress who played the Vulcan in
|> 'The Shizoid Man' is, IMHO, the same actress who played Worf's mate.
|> 
|> Anyone else care to comment?
|> 
|> Frank Sereno
|> Kansas State University

Oh....all those Klingons look alike 8-).
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From: disaacs@pietrzak.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs)
Subject: change of spot.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:05:20 GMT

Has Spot been changing since I first saw him.  I think the first time he
(or she) was seen was in the episode where the ship is being hit by those
pockets of dimensional non-existence (or something like that).  In that
episode I thought he had long fluffy haired grey-brown fur.  In A Fist Full 
of Datas he had short light orange fur...

...or am I just imagining things


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Subject: Picard's accent
From: s334147@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:33:07 GMT

Patrick Stewart is English.
Jean-Luc Picard is French speaking English.
He was obviously taught by an English person, therefore he speaks English (as
in the English that is spoken in England) with a French accent. I presume that
Americans hear it as English with an English AND a French accent.

Because Stewart is English, his French accent only comes out when his French
background comes up - eg "Where no one has gone before" when he "sees" his
French Mother.

Katharine "I never met a chocolate I didn't like" Shade.
disclaimer: my back hurts.
From: annie@fatboy.manassas.ibm.com (Brenda Molina)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG on Joan Rivers
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:43:50 GMT
Reply-To: kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Federal Systems Company

Did anyone else tape/watch this in the DC area, only to find
that they were interviewing the folks from Hanging with Mr Cooper?
According the the guide I get in Sunday's Post, they were supposed
to be on tonight (tuesday) - I'm hoping that they just mixed the two
up and will set my vcr up for tonight again.

sigh.

Thanks,
Brenda J. Molina                                     kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com
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From: smay@boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:07:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Matt J. Martin (myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu) wrote:
:   I fear bad scripts more than I fear women.  And I never met a woman that 
: was a match for me, in any area.  Nope, no fear here.  Thank you for playing,
: please feel free to try again.
:
Sounds like you need to get out of that boys' dorm room a little more often.

cheers,
scott 
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From: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford)
Subject: Biko
Originator: jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca
Organization: Audio Research Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:07:36 GMT

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	Since this really has nothing to do with the plot of "A Fistfull of 
Datas" at all, then a spoiler message is pointless.

	I'm wondering how the supply ship they were to encounter was the
Biko, when this was the ship that was destroyed in the episode in which
the little kid emulates Data as a role model.  I didn't think they re-christen
ships that quickly.

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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why do the feds not use / carry cloaking devices?
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:52:45 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
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Gordon Locke (glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote:
>	If I may add to the list, this same question was asked of the
>Editor of the current run of DC Star Trek comics, and the response
>(which, I believe, came indirectly from GR or someone close to him) was
>along the lines of the Federation being peace-oriented, and that on a
>matter of principle they don't want to appear threatening to other
>cultures.  ...

I believe this reference comes in at point 15.

|...
|15. "Richard Arnold was asked at a convention why the Enterprise doesn't
|     have a cloaking device.  His response was that it was too militaristic,
|     i.e., having a cloak would indicate that the Enterprise was anticipating
|     a fight, which is a military way of thinking and hence inappropriate.
|     So this can be accepted as the "official" Star Trek line."
|     (To quote Peter A. David)
|...

Mark Runyan
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Subject: List of Lists posting
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THe mail bounced so I am posting the info requested.  The posting
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From: lloyd@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Lloyd Chandler)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:18:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Nannites Vs Borg
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
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In rec.arts.startrek.current, gkatz@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz) writes:

[Lots of Stuff Deleted]

> It has also been mentioned that due to the Borg's success rate
> of assimilating cultures, they'd might assimilate the Nanites
> before they could finish their mission.  In other words, they'd be
> working for the Borg and hence used against the Federation.

> gkatz

Major question though...

How could the Borg assimilate a Nanite?  The Nanties are microscopic, they
live in the computer core [or that general area].  Given the current *style*
of assimilation we have seen, how would this be possible??

L.
From: john@newave.newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Quality of Life <spoilers>
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:30:31 GMT
Organization: Newave Communications, Ltd, Lake Wobegon, MN

In <1emmp6INNoqo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
> Data should be shot.  Who is in charge of the Enterprise, is there a chain
> of command or not?!  Riker's credibility as a commanding officer hs surely
> been lost.  What happens if every bridge officer in Starfleet starts
> disobeying orders like that?  Well of course it's only a TV show, but this
> constant Data Mutiny is wearing thin.

I think Data and Riker, plus maybe LaForge and Worf, might have been the only
people who had authorization to do something like this.  If everyone follows
orders without question all of the time, you end up with a fleet of Klingon
ships.

If you think about this for a moment, Data knew that the pods would not
blow them selves up.  By locking the transporter, Data put a stop to a
plan that would not work.  In effect, Data actions gave Picard and Riker
a chance.

> McFadden seems to be trying to modify the role of Dr. Crusher.  Playing poker
> with the boys? ;)

The doctor has played poker before, but it was never quite that much fun 
in the past!

> Where was Spot in the scene where Data was examining the R2D2 thing?  I
> thought it'd be a nice touch if Spot had jumped into the scene like he did
> last week.

It looks like Spot never leaves Data's quarters.

> I found the episode unbelievable and totally unrealistic and it quickly
> deteriorated into another "Data takes over the ship" episode. (Is anyone
> keeping count of these?)

I agree, but for a slightly different reason.  In this episode, I find it
hard to believe that nobody ever tried to build a robot before.  Same with
Fist Full Of Datas--Data has been in Star Fleet for 20+ years, at the Academy
before that, and probably in research labs before that.  In perhaps 40
years of being around Star Fleet, they never tried to connect Data to a
computer before?

-john-

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From: ruhtra@turing.toronto.edu (Arthur Tateishi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Fist full of data's force field question
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:18:20 GMT
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto

In article <Bxpwq0.E7z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>Ok if the only problem with Worf's force lasting forever was the energy
>then why can't the ship's security team rig up a bunch of personal
>fields. Have them automatated to only turn on when fired upon. Let a
>phaser like thing power them. Why not.

All I was thinking at that point in the episode was:
"Where the duct tape?" It seemed like a polite MacGyver jab
with the old-west pocket knife and all.

arthur
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: Why is Data so limited?
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:46:19 GMT

Hi,
This topic has nothing to do with current Star Trek anymore.  Please
direct posts to rec.arts.startrek.tech or rec.arts.startrek.misc .
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