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From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Curt Tsui)
Subject: Re: The Vanishing
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:22:45 GMT

tb0o+@andrew.cmu.edu  writes:
> peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes...
> 
> ..An American version of this foriegn film is in the works, according
> ..to Premiere mag... Has anyone seen the European version? Is it any
> ..good?
> 
> ..Peter M.
> 
> The european version of the Vanishing was one of the best films I saw last
> year. Morbidly engrossing and VERY distrurbing.
> 
> WARNING: Spoilers for VANISHING and THE PLAYER
> 
> 
> It really sucks that Hollywood is going to try to tackle this particular film.
> I can already imaging it starring Bruce Willis and Julia Roberts with Bruce
> bursting in at the end, blowing the kidnapper away with a shotgun, making a
> smart wise-crack, and rescuing the coughing, near-death, julia.
> 
> U G H !
> 
> t

Actually, it's going to have Keifer Sutherland as the man whose
girlfriend disappears and Jeff Bridges as the sociopath.  One
slightly good point is that George Sluizer (sp?) is directing
this version too.  Small comfort though.
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ckt4x@Virginia.EDU  |               Charlie, BARTON FINK
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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: dr. strangelove - las
Date: 26 Jul 92 07:35:43 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

DFK> For the ending I got the dialog, but I cant figure out exactly what
DFK> the Soviet Ambassador is operating when he goes off to the side. Is
DFK> this some kind of transmitter or a detonator? Is he helping blow up the
DFK> world right from the War-room?

     That's a camera, with which the Soviet Ambassador takes secret
     pictures of the Big Board.  This is ultimate proof that despite
     everything that happened, despite that hokey prayer General
     Turgidson offered ("LORD! You have seen fit to deliver us," etc.),
     nothing has really changed and those fools are going to keep on
     playing their silly war games to the very end.

DFK> Another trivial note: The B-52 that drops the bombs had something inscribed
DFK> on the back of each. Something like "Hi Bob!" or something, dont remember
DFK> off hand.  Does anybody know the significance of this?

     The words written on the nuclear warheads are "Hi there!"  Supposedly
     (at least, according to one treatise I've read on "Dr. Strangelove"),
     this is a reference to homosexual activity, and thus it ties in with
     the constant sexual references that appear throughout the movie.

DFK> "You gentleman cant fight in here! This is the WAR room!! - The President

     Actually, one of my favourite lines is "You're talking about mass
     murder, General - not war!"

     You mean there's a DIFFERENCE?
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From: dtschett@scott.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Re: Prelude to a Kiss is the best! (NOT!)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:41:33 GMT

After reading all the previous verbiage regarding this film. I must
agree with Gilbert and Felicitas... The film was beautifully made and
the use of texture, color and detail was superb.  I was very, very,
pleased with the experience of enjoying the visual images.

The plot was interesting - I did manage to suspend disbelief for the
sheer pleasure of doing so !!!! :>

I LOVED THIS MOVIE !!!!!!

Donna
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,misc.test,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Short Shameful Confession.
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:17:22 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Jul29.185057.21448@cs.ucla.edu>, reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu 
(Peter Reiher) writes:

>>>Does this mean you get to meet Clint and Gene?  If so, I'd
>>>pay the $150 too!

> Try not to sit near Gene.  He talks during movies.

Siskel or Hackman?  :^)

Greg Bole                               "When you wake up, wipe the slugs off
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             your face.  Be ready for a new day!"
                                        Keanu Reeves in _My Own Private Idaho_
From: smorrow@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Steve Morrow)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:32:54 GMT
Subject: Re: christopher walken
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies

James Woods played the cop in The Hard Way, he was the journalist in
Salvador, and he played the scuzoid who shot the cop in The Onion
Field.
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From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: Re: MAN TROUBLE = PLAIN TROUBLE
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:10:05 GMT

declan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Declan J. Fleming) writes:


[extremely emotional complaints about the turkey Man Trouble deleted]

>What the HELL is going on in Hollywood.  There HAVE to be some people with      talent there but we just don't see it any more.  I have to compare this         experience with the orgasmic entertainment I received from Clany's book.
>It had characters with real problems, nukes, ruskies, PLOTTTTT!!!!, love,
>intrigue, sigh....

  Hollywood seems to be getting lazy. Remember top notch action flicks like
Die Hard and Lethal Weapon 2? These days we get mediocre crap like Lethal
Weapon 3 and Alien 3. As for the "orgasmic" entertainment of Clancy's
book...ah, each to their own. (Just make sure you clean up your mess :-)
 
>And to see this movie, I took out 2 hours when I could have been reading!!!

  Incredibly, this seems to happen to everyone who spends two hours in 
a movie theater!!!

>I want to see this kind of attention to detail on film.  "Patriot Games" was
>an interesting flic, but in 2 hrs, how much can you do?  I'd seriously pay
>10-15 dollars to go into a theater and sit for 6-8 hours and see a real
>story spanning the entire length of a book like this. 

   Ah, umm, er...let's just say that you're a rare breed. 

> Leave the nuances in!
>That's what makes entertainment ENTERTAINING!!!!  Wake up HOLLYWOOD!  I'm
>gonna start spending all my money on books and leave your damn multiplexes
>to rot!!!!

   Hey, I'd boycott the theaters if I thought everyone else would! But judging
from the box office takes on Lethal Weapon 3 and Batman Returns, so-so action
flicks are going to be around for a long, long time...

--
Richard J. Rauser      "Sonic 2!"
rauser@sfu.ca              -what Guile says
WNI 


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From: mbrown@wam.umd.edu (Michael A. Brown)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:36:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.070137.23438@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sql.sybase.com writes:
[among other things....]

>....obviously I want something with the qualities that appealed to me
>originally.
>
>Does this help explain it?
>
>-Ed Price             (not Tim Worsely)

No.  I understand the point of your analogy, and I think I get where you're
coming from....
BUT, do you think you could specifically LIST what those qualities were
about the original, which you felt were lacking from T2?

Can you give a serious, well-thought, well-written critical analysis of
why you did not like T2?


-- 
-Michael A. Brown, University of Maryland
 Internet:  mbrown@wam.umd.edu

"The measure of a mind's evolution is its acceptance of the unacceptable."
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From: ST402420@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi (sp?) - Any fans out there?
Organization: Brown University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:55:38 GMT

She was born in Milan, Italy in 1960 and has been on screen since 1981. She
now lives in England.

Sammy Samos.









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From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Gus Van Sant
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:25:09 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <1992Jul24.000742.1562@zip.eecs.umich.edu> stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.191320.7060@willamette.edu> amessing@willamette.edu (Adam Messinger) writes:
>>
>>What movies has Gus Van Sant directed in addition to "Drugstore Cowboy" and
>>"My Own Private Idaho"...In addition what film school did he go to, his movies
>>(camera angles, nutty dream sequences, etc.) remind me a lot of David Lynch
>>and I was curious to see if they went to school together.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>adam
>
>Hmmmmm . . . I think he came out of MTV.  Not sure where he went to school
>or anything.  The only other movie-type thing he's done that I know of is

	As an undergraduate he attended the Rhode Island School of Design (he
was a classmate of my girlfriend...he was creepy back then, too), but I don't
know where he went to filmschool.

>(most of escessively long .sig deleted)
>The opinions expressed above can be  *	Stewart Tame
>		Email:  stame@emunix.emich.edu
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gharris@jade.tufts.edu          George Harris, Tufts Univ. Dept. of Mathematics
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From: dtschett@scott.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Re: Movie Posters..
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:20:46 GMT

Yes, for the person who inquired -- La Femme Nikita is still available
for $45.

(sorry-I deleted your e-mail address!)
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From: hcleong@iti.gov.sg (Leong Heng Cheong)
Subject: Re: HK Movies (Was: Diary of a Hitman)
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:33:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.133741.8344@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sql.sybase.com writes:
>
>WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.  It is *not* a Hong Kong movie.  It is an
>American movie, pathetically imitating certain aspects of an
>infinitely superior (HK) movie, as I said.

[NB: "It" being DIARY OF A HITMAN...]

My mistake.  I apologize, but I'm glad it brought up a discussion of Hong
Kong movies.

>Have you *seen* HARDBOILED??  I thought it was great.  Not as good as
>THE KILLER, but certinaly an order of magnitude superior to *any*
>American action film I've seen this summer.

No, I didn't see the movie.  But as I have stated, the reviews were bad.
The box-office was bad.  I might like the movie as reviews are just
another viewer's opinion.

>
>Who do you consider the greatest directors in HK then?  I'm curious!

One director that I consider to be good is Tsui Hark.   However, even his
film are not consistence.  His '89 film, THE MASTERS, was not released at
that time.  However, with Jet Li's box office hits ONCE UPON A TIME IN
CHINA and the sequel, THE MASTERS (which also starred a then
not-that-famous Jet Li) was pulled out from the studio and released.  The
Chinese title was also changed from DRAGON GOES TO THE WORLD to WONG
FEY-HONG '92 to cash in on the much more superior series.  THE MASTERS is
really quite a bad movie -- inconsistent, and often idotic, plot, a very
straigh-forward direction with not much thought on plot-advancement, and
some very poor acting.

HK movies tend to have good action scene.  If one is familiar only with
LETHAL WEAPONS or RICOCHET, many of the action scenes in HK movies will
blow one away.  However, usually these are only violence for violence
sake.  They don't usually have anything to do with the plot (if the plot
exist...:-)), and are just another excuse to show more blood.  A good
movie should have a tight plot, in my opinion, and these scenes certainly
don't help better the films.

>
>Give me A BETTER TOMORROW 3 over LETHAL WEAPON 3 or ALIEN
>3 *any* day.

In my opinion, A BETTER TOMORROW 3 was much worse than LETHAL WEAPONS 3.
At least LW3 has entertainment value with a not-that-difficult-to-believe
storyline.  And the direction is at least not bad.  A BETTER TOMORROW 3
has an unbelievable story where the good guys will not get killed, even
if he or she runs through rains of bullets.  A reference to Hong Kong's
1997 was made in the movie (approx. "Why should I go back to Hong Kong
when I still have to leave in 97...") when this incident hasn't even be
brought up during that time.  The direction is just copies of scenes from
other movies.  A very tell-tale sign is the constant use of spotlights to
shine onto the smoke in the background, which was rather a trendy scene
during that time.


Heng Cheong
  hcleong@iti.gov.sg
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:49:04 GMT


Cliff Chaput writes:

>It should also be noted that Walter Carlos is now Wendy
>Carlos. (S)He also did the music for Tron, along with the 
>now-notorious "Switched-on Bach" et al.  I especially liked
>the synthesized voices in the excerpts of "Ludwig Van's"
>9th (in the record store scene with those suggestive popsicles).

Yikes, did he/it/she/whatever have a sex change operation?!?!?!
When I saw an article in my _Keyboard_ magazine (I didn't read
it) about Wendy Carlos coming out with a new album, for some
reason I assumed she was a relative (daughter, or something) of
Walter Carlos. Geeeeeesh!!!! Egaad!!!! Oooooooh!


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: oysteint@ifi.uio.no (\ystein Tvedten)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:08:54 GMT
Originator: oysteint@yrsa.ifi.uio.no


In article <2178304@overmind.citadel>, jpl.NoSubdomain.NoD!tedk@overmind.mind.org writes:
> 
> I think that's the first time I've heard anyone say they really disliked T2.
> Personally, I put it in my top ten of all time.  What about it was so bad
> that it deserves comparison with Highlander 2?

What is so bad about Highlander 2 that it deserves comparison with T2?

:) :) :) :) :)

Disclaimer - I liked Highlander 2, and don't care if you think it sucks.

Oystein T.
From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:38:01 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

neeman@s5.csrd.uiuc.edu (Henry J. Neeman) writes...

> In "Raiders," Indi's boss (I forget the character's name, but he's played by
> Denholm Elliot) is smart, eloquent and concern; in "Last Crusade," he's
> a doddering fool.  Why were such great characters ruined?

    Marcus Brody was the character. I truely think that Denholm Elliot
was drunk in several of his scenes in "Last Crusade". Watch the film
again with this in mind and I think you'll agree. The one scene that
springs to mind is the one at the end when he syas something like
"Follow me I know the way!" and almost falls off his horse. Look at his
eyes in that scene.

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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:04:39 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <Brw6Kz.2F7@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>, by uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann):
> It's about as incredible there as the Thing from Another World.

Quite.

> You'd need pico- or femtotechnology. 

Where's the difference?  Nanotechnology is a buzzword, not a specific
degree of miniaturization.  You can rest assured that at the level of
resolution available on film, you won't see the difference.
-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
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From: trm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Tara R. Marchand)
Subject: Re: The Hunger (semi-spoiler alert)
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix, Sacramento, Ca.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 20:47:34 GMT

In article <14k3loINNe35@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose) writes:
>Just saw this movie last night and I really enjoyed it.  Does anyone know
>if it is available on video anywhere?  I haven't had time to look into it
>yet.

It's available on video, yes. 

>One thing I didn't understand about the movie was how Sara (Susan Sarandon)
>was still alive at the end of the movie.  I haven't read the book (yet)
>so perhaps I'll figure it out then.  And while I'm here, can someone tell
>me what city that was in the final scene?  I'm guessing London (not having
>seen the city yet) but have no idea.

What do you mean you don't understand why Sarah was still alive at the end of
the film?  Well, Miriam was a vampire, and she bit Sarah, so...I figured that
Sarah became a vampire as well.  I don't recall the last scene, so I couldn't
tell you what city it is.  It's been a while since I saw the movie and read
the book, but I seem to think that the story took place in New York--I could
be wrong, though. 

>What's your opinion of the movie? Liked it?  Hated it?

I really liked it.  I loved the photography and the background music.  BTW, the
soundtrack *is* available, although I don't have it.  I thought David Bowie,
Susan Sarandon, and Catherine DeNeuve (sp?) all did an excellent job...

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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: beware?
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:23:48 EST
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

GB>In article <1992Jul15.755.40647#dosgate>, james.kewageshig@canrem.com
GB>(james kewageshig) writes:

> 'Dracula' by Francis Ford Coppola.

GB>Last I heard it was called _Bram Stoker's Dracula_.  Do you know if there has
GB>been a change?  Actually I'd prefer just the Dracula, because from what I've
GB>heard of the plot, quite a chunk is different than the original book, but then
GB>again, how would you differentiate, just from the title, between the different
GB>versions?

Actually, your right, the 'Bram Stoker's' line was in the coming-soon,
just above the 'Dracula'.
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From: keisha@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Coed of the Damned)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Midnight Movies
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:52:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

>>
>>	I want to know what would be concidered an 'ultimate'
>>midnight movie.  I already know about Rocky Horror, and 
>>Eraserhead... I am interested in getting together a list
>>of 'lesser known' midnight movies... 
>>Any ideas ??
>>
>
Well, how about HEAVY METAL?  They show it here in Austin any number of times
as a midnight showing.  Also: concert movies, like JIMI HENDRIX LIVE AT
MONTEREY or WOODSTOCK.


                   Keisha J. Gray -- Co-ed of the Damned
               (keisha@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu, but not for long.)
                 "More fun than you can shake a stick at!"

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From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: favorite movie musicals
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:31:42 GMT

Ah, one other one of my favorites...but the name is escaping me... it was the
musical version of "the Philadelphia Story" and starred Bing Crosby, Grace
Kelly and Frank Sinatra and Louis Armstrong... some of the great songs were: 
True Love, You're Sensational, Did you eva'

SOMEBODY must remember the name of this movie!

rlwilliams@gallua
From: traveler@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: INFO on TWIN PEAKS
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:18:12 GMT
Reply-To: traveler
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <wePr8yS00VpI4Ii1tZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, lf0v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louis Anthony Faassen) writes...
> 
>Sorry if this has been covered recently, but I haven't been following
>this newsgroup for a couple of weeks(and you know how many posts can
>occur in that time!) 
> 
>My simple question: when is the Twin Peaks movie "Fire Walk With Me"
>scheduled to be realeased?  Anyone got a simple answer(even though I
>really enjoy long, complicated, in-depth responses.  
> 
>Thanks in advance.

	August 28.
	You're welcome.

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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: George Miller
Date: 23 Jul 92 04:43:39 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Jul22.165133.6344@cs.ucla.edu>, reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes...

} While this may not sound like Miller's sort of story, given "Mad Max"
} and all, he is perhaps uniquely well suited to direct the film. Miller
} is an M.D. [...]

And is often referred to as "Dr. George Miller", to differentiate him
from the other George Miller.

It's also worth noting that it was his working in hospital emergency
rooms as a resident treating auto accident victims that gave him the
idea for MAD MAX.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: sej5g@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Susan Elizabeth Juroff)
Subject: Re: Misha a Faggot!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:13:08 GMT

> Noting that this topic does not belong on rec.arts.movies, I must
> say that I do find it amusing, in a sophomoric sort of way, but I
> am inclined to ask:
> 
> Haven't you ever had an urgent and immediate need to urinate,
> say upon waking up in the morning, and found that your erect
> phallus made this situation difficult?
> 
--->Funny...that never did happen to me.  

--->sej5g
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