HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Experience with SLICK 50
Summary: Blocks up your oil flow...
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:17:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: elektro.1992Oct6.131737.2465
Followup-To: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

In article <1aq0ijINNouj@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 8672@rtsg.mot.com, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>>
>>refer to a very informative post by 
>>H. Pasternak 
>
>Logical contradiction alert!!!
>
>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
>

There was a real good technical article on teflon based oil additives
published in the BMW Rider's Association (RA) monthly mag within the last
couple of months.  I don't remember the technical name for these TFE based
additives, but the general gist of the article was like this:

    If you are looking for peak HP for a race motor, these friction reducing
spooge (tm) additives will probably do something for you through immediate
reduction of friction between moving parts. 

    There is also a short term reduction in friction induced wear experienced
due to these additives.

    The *REAL* interesting part was their data on long term usages.  It seems
that these TFE based additives all employ TFE particles in one form or another
in suspension in the oil.  The RA article talked about experience with oil
flow blockages due to particulate deposits in passages.  The consequential
damage documented in high milage engines included more piston / cylinder wear
and more wear on surfaces that are marginally lubricated anyway such as cam
lobes.  

The article was convincing enough to persuade me to swear off this type of
stuff for over the road engine use.  If this draws enough flames from true
believers, or hydraulic engineers, who want the exact specifics I'll try to
find the article and post a more technically specific follow up.


Charlie Smith   csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: calling mature riders
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:41:35 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 580@halfdome.sf.ca.us, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.214211.3259@cs.ucla.edu>, noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
>> heh heh -- dummy!  :-)  the key thing that changed about that
>> figure is the units.  notice it is no longer 3,000 miles
>> that stands between NB & NM, but 3,000 DOLLARS!!!
>
>well, if we're going to start a benefit, noemi might as well be the 
>logical choice.  noemi send me your snail mail address.  i have $5
>to make your new total a measily $2995.

HEY!

She *has* a motorcycle!

Shouldn't donations flow to the greatest need?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Carpal Tunnel and Riding
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:40:58 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization


one item which i have found to reduce vibration in the handlebars is
called a "Bar Snake." (tm)

its a 3 foot long piece of rubber made very heavy by some metal.

to install, take the grips off both sides, thread the (included) wire 
through the end of the bar snake, stick the wire through your handlebars,
spray bar snake with wd-40, and pull.  you've pulled it so part is sticking
out of each end of the bar, cut them off, and replace your grips.

very easy.  

helps a lot.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: jon%vector0.UUCP@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 3 Oct 92 07:22:58 GMT
Organization: Vector Zero

scatlin@bnr.ca (Scot Catlin) writes:

>         Has anyone ever given thought to a new group called
> rec.moto.tech?  I know the racing and harley ideas have been
> discussed.  How about tech?

     How about just clean up this newsgroup?

     Sorry, but I've had enough of splits that claim to raise
the IQ level of the posting.  Here's an extreme example, take
alt.rock-n-roll, which became:
          alt.rock-n-roll.metal
then..    alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
then..    alt.rock-n-roll.hard          Because they flame too much!

     The group has split 3 more times that I've bothered to read
about in alt.config.  I've given up on the entire heirarchy.


     HOW ABOUT YOU DOD IDIOTS STOP FLAMING LIKE IMMATURE BRATS?

Now, is that so hard?  Why this live to flame stuff
exists I have no idea.  Read the Nettiquette postings.
Don't post one-liners.  Don't post AT ALL if your followup
includes more quoted lines than your own original lines.
etc etc etc --- it's all very basic.  Forget the split.

>         I sure hate to see a news group with such a worthy topic go
> down the tubes like it seems to be.

     Damn straight.  Maybe put some Nettiquette in the FAQ and
cut out the silly response/flame garbage.

--Jon / (sometimes wonder why) DOD #2600

   jon%vector0@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US                Life is like a kiwi.
   PacBell.COM!sactoh0!vector0!jon
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cold weather gear for the poor?
Date: 4 Oct 92 22:45:49 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <j403662@pro-haven.cts.com>, shadow@pro-haven.cts.com (Blaine Hufnagle) writes:
> Well, now that cold weather has reared its ugly head, the subject sez it all.
> I'm trying to figure out what I can wear to keep warm, since buying good
> stuff like Aerostitch or leathers is financially out of the question.  What
> is good for those of us who are, for one reason or another, stuck with a
> riding jacket and jeans?  Anyone tried anything like sweats or long-johns
> under the jeans?

as a matter of fact, i have just the thing for you in my closet.  two 
pairs of snowmobiling pants.  havent worn them in many years, it don't
get cold enough 'round here.  send e-mail if you (or anyone else) is 
interested.  i'm 6'1"/190#.

-- 
--
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:52:21 GMT
 <1992Sep30.190400.9988@megatek.com>
 <Oct.1.02.24.51.1992.14754@remus.rutgers.edu> <92275.103905HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET writes:

>You'd think they'd come up with a detector that would vibrate
>in your pocket like some beepers do.....would save all
>the trouble of mounting, and security.  Still would hurt
>like a bitch if you wreck and land on it tho.

Good idea!  You could place it somewhere you're not
likely to land on (underarm, for instance) to minimize
damage (to rider) in case you go down.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:47:05 GMT

In article <Oct.2.10.00.55.1992.16967@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>
>] There's no denying the Japanese excel at manufacturing. They
>] just keep leaving the soul out in final assembly. 8-)
>
>I don't have a soul.  Why should my bike?
>
The answer will become apparent when you leave New Jersey.

(I know, I know, too easy. No points for that one.)

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Faster 1100 Again
Keywords: Phenomenal!
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 03:53:17 GMT

In article <BvB0Ln.Gvw@solbourne.com> markb@solbourne.com (Mark W. Bradley) writes:
>
>Well there's presently a 1400 cc Suzuki Katana in my garage!  It's
>trick as can be.  Inverted forks, steering damper, custom wheels,
>etc.  An incredibly beautiful bike!  Even more so before the crash
>in my driveway.  It's been tested to over 200 HP at the rear wheel.

The fork inversion, damp steering, and "customized" wheels all happened
in a 3 second period in his driveway when he was developing the 200+ HP
at the rear wheel ... 

>This is the faster bike I've been dreaming about.  

     that's what happens when you ride with that dream stuff  ...


Charlie Smith    csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers# 411, BK Ohio V 
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff. 
             {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Enough with the FAQ! THANKS!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:33:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.002741.1329@linus.mitre.org> wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston) writes:
|in article <1992Sep28.164951.604@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis 
|Jackson)
|writes:
|
|>All 863 of you who sent me the DoD FAQ are wonderful, you are not
|>weenies, and I am forever in each of your debt (hmmmm, this could
|>cost me a lot of beer money!)
|
|Guess you got gang-FAQed by the DoD, eh?

I hereby nominate this as the rec.moto Posting of the Month.  :-)

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Feeling poorly)           |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Being bored)         |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: LOST THE KEY
Date: 02 Oct 92 23:03:40 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

;In article <FARID.92Sep30162459@gradient.cis.upenn.edu> Hany Farid,
;farid@gradient.cis.upenn.edu writes:
;>This happened to me recently and I took the helmet lock off and
;>brought it to a locksmith - he was able to make a key from that.  The
;>cost was only $4.

I lost the key to my KLR 650 (and much later found it
again, after I had sold the bike).  So I took the helmet 
lock to a locksmith and had a key made for it.  Guess
what.  The ignition key has more switches or whatever
in it, so the new key didn't work in the ignition.  Fine.
I took the ignition/steering lock off the bike and down
to the locksmith and had a key made for it, which would
also fit the helmet lock.  Guess what.  The new key didn't
fit the gas cap lock, and the bike was out of gas!  Note 
that the gas cap lock cannot be removed without a key...  

Just because two locks use the same key doesn't mean
they're the same.

---
chris
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drag racing
Date: 1 Oct 1992 16:06:02 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: Fun, go faster and faster and ...

In article <1992Oct1.182851.28298@cci632.cci.com> jnj@cci632.cci.com (John Jenkins) writes:
>As Buck's wheelie-bar sticker reads:
> "The Surgeon General has found that Drag Racing is dangerous to your wealth."

Heh.  Heh^3.  So is motorcycling of any kind, boating, flying...

>  4)  If your seat is slippery at all, smear some Coke or Pepsi on it to 
>      give it some stick.

I just want to point out, here, that you MUST use the real thing.
The petrochemical-tasting diet sodas never get sticky when they dry.

(NonMoto:  Has NewCoke vanished completely from the Earth?)

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar
-Queer and Proud
From: ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Paul Marshall Hounslow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Faulty chain adjustment
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:37:08 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>In article <29SEP92105121@fnalo.fnal.gov>, krafft@fnalo.fnal.gov
>(N07732_KRAFFT, KEITH G.) wrote:
>> 
>[...]
>> 
>> What I'm asking is, has anyone's chain busted or fallen off at
>> highway speeds?
>> 

>Yes!  While countersteering my BMW!

Apart from that, I know of it, I was not on duty at the time (ex Fire & Rescue).
This squid was riding fast with a knackered chain.  It broke, took his leg off
halway up his thigh.  Didn't matter too much, cos he and the bike
went straight into the front of a lorry (trans, truck) coming the other way.

I ride a shaft drive bike now ;-)




Paul

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Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk  1990 16 valve K100RS(LT)    DoD #0573
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kdg@world.std.com (Keith D Gregory)
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:38:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.134037.457@sbctri.sbc.com>, asper@sbctri.sbc.com 
(Alan E. Asper) writes:
> I got on the bike this morning and the battery was dead. Since the
> bike's battery is 12 volts, and my car's battery is 12 volts, can I
> use the car battery to jump it? The bike owner's manual only says that
> a 12 volt booster battery should be used. No mention of amperage, etc.

Instead of using my car's battery (which has some sort of greenish goo
where it once had clear Vaseline), I use the boost mode of my battery
charger (Sears 2/10/50). It's a real pain in the neck all around, but
when I do something dumb -- like trying to start the bike on a cold morning
after a week out of town, without putting the choke on -- and listen to the 
starter crank ever more slowly . . .

-kdg
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:33523 ba.motorcycles:367
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning into it and DoD weenies
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:19:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep27.015601.17589@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>First the DoD, to get that out of the way. Since none of the hyenas
>who claim to have a DoD number will tell me what DoD is, I guess I'll
>pass on it for both our sakes.

I'm a new reader, but I've seen a detailed explanation of it in the last
two months.  I believe there is a regular posting on it.  I don't remember 
many details about the explanation, but it was there.  A later posting said 
something to the effect that limiting membership to people who had actually
read the group for a while was a desirable thing. 


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Enough with the FAQ! THANKS!
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:03:29 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>>All 863 of you who sent me the DoD FAQ are wonderful, you are not
>>weenies, and I am forever in each of your debt (hmmmm, this could
>>cost me a lot of beer money!)
>
>Guess you got gang-FAQed by the DoD, eh?


Say, that's an idea !!! Everytime some new reader asks what a DoD# is,
it shall be the duty of EVERY one of us to email him/her a copy of the
FAQ. 8-} Just kidding, no flames please!
<--------------------------------------------------------------------->
< Neal Howard                         | '91 Harley Sportster XLH-1200 >
< email: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org     | DoD # 686                     >
< CompuTrac, Inc. (Richardson, TX)    | '69 Cougar XR7-GT390          >
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:05:12 GMT

shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?

>My men wear full-face helmets when they ride, or nothing at all.

So where are these mythical pictures already?  :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Stupid Questions
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 17:18:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.060012.2556@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>
>>green BMW running around!  Who owns it?"  I've also been thinking of
>>going after the Bennetton Clothes look by swapping out pieces with
>>yellow and purple GS's and red PD's.  Now THAT could end up pretty ugly...
>
>How about painting each jug a different color?

    Red on the left, and green on the right I hope!  Unless you did this
    someone behind you would think you were coming toward them backwards
    instead of backing toward them forwards, or you could paint an official
    DoD face picture on the back of your helmet and really confuse them.
    As long as your faceshield doesn't glow and rotate in the dark, you'll
    probably be OK.


Charlie Smith    csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers# 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff.
             {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Honda Nighthawk 250 info wanted
From: fantini%boot.decnet@edwards-tems.af.mil
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:34:22 -0700
Organization: T&E Mission Simulator - Edwards AFB, CA


Hello Net:

I would like to hear people's opinion about the Honda Nighthawk 250. I am
thinking in terms of it being a commuter/"float-around-town" bike with the
following requirements:

	(1) Be able to cruise at 70 MPH on the freeway.
	    (What is the quarter mile speed/time? 0-60 time? Top speed?)
	(2) Have at least 200 mile cruising range. I believe it has
	    a 4.2 gallon tank. What is the average Mi/gal?
	(3) Be simple and reliable.

I have most interest to hear what the net has to say about this motorcycle
as an article in "Cycle" gave it a poor review stating that "the -250
should give more to the beginner in terms of features."

I saw the thread about the Honda XR250L stalling on throttle closing. Does
the Nighthawk suffer the same problem?

Thanks for any info.

						-Jay
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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Faulty chain adjustment
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 22:06:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <JBM.92Oct2161532@infinity.hal.com> jbm@hal.com (Brad Might) writes:
>(Charles Parr) said:
>> Nntp-Posting-Host: acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca
>
>> So all you 8/10 poseurs out there who'd like to believe you
>> own a sportbike, get thee to a dealer and buy a Yamaha RZ500
>> two stroke four cylinder BikeFromHell today. I promise, after
>> the first couple of weeks you'll hardly be spooging your 
>> fruit of the looms at all.
>
>> Regards, Charles
>> DoD 0.001
>> RZ350(onlayaway, beautiful)
>> GS400ED(nonstock, forsale, needswork)
>> -- 
>
>
>RZ500 is a pig. Get an RG500 gamma. Weld/balance the cranks, shave the
>head, add better pipes, rejet, add steering damper, better fork brace, and
>give it a custom paint job. (I had one just like that! Its cruising around
>vancouver now).

Jesus Brad, why not just pick up a TZ750 and add lights? Less
work anyway. The problem with the Gamma is simple (and I'm
a Suzuki fan): The bike is a heap of shit. They break down
in exotic and expensive ways for no especially good reason.

Now, the Rg500 gamma is fast, don't get me wrong. Handles
all right as well (almost as good as the RZ), but I'd rather
own something that won't break down in the middle of every 
second sunday ride, ya know?

All other things being equal, BTW, the Gamma is also
fairly ugly. Forget new paint, that thing needs new
bodywork...The RZ500, though, looks at home in a GP pit,
and sounds right as well.

New pipe, reedjob, good rubber and a fox shock and the
RZ500 is ready to race until *you* drop. The gamma will
do it's level best to drop *you*.

Of course neither of these heavy wallowing sows has
anything on a nice clean rz350. Or better yet, A
TZ250 "tomcat" as assembled by Rod in Toronto.

Wheeee!

Charles
DoD 0.001

No opinions here, just 100% fact.
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:25:02 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:
>In rec.motorcycles lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
>;I'm entirely uncomfortable wearing an open-face helmet... I feel like I might
>;as well not wear one at all.  Have there been any studies done concerning the
>;protective merits of full-face vs. open-face helmets?  
>
>Yeah, some medico in Australia has done careful studies 
>to prove that if you take a fall on your chin at high 
>speed wearing a full face helmet you'll snap your spinal 
>cord; if you're wearing an open face helmet you'll just 
>crush and/or grind off the lower half of your face.  
>Theoretically, the face can be reconstructed, whereas the 
>spinal cord can't.
>
>The guy who did the study coincidentally holds a patent
>on a new type of collapsible-chin full face helmet that
>helps prevent such neck injuries.

"Coincidentally"? NOT!

Remember: Liars figure and figures lie.
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
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