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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: achoudhu@us.oracle.com (Akhil Choudhury)
Subject: PUTTING YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS:  SBI VS "DESHI SERVICE"
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA 94065
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:55:19 GMT
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Dear fellow Indians,
                    Recently I attended a gathering of Indian professionals.
There were about 30 people and everyone was having a good time discussing
India and India's various projects(Agni, HDTV, corruption etc etc). I brought 
up the issue of our contribution thru NRE account. What struck me was 
that not a single voice supported the idea of sending money thru 
Bank rather than a private source.  What hypocrisy!  Without surrendering 
myself to the surging ridicules, I desperately tried to establish the fact 
that eventhough some of the money deposited through SBI might(!) go to
Ministers and Businessmen(so to speak), our duty was to do the right thing.

I know, private parties offer 5-6 rupees more per dollar.
And I also know that on the streets of Bombay and Calcutta,
a dollar can fetch much more.  But after knowing India's
need for foreign exchange, can't we give up those few extra rupees ? Maybe
I was at a wrong place with wrong people. Is there anyone in SCI who feel
the same way I feel ?  

	Yes, I still remember the trouble I went thru in obtaining dollar
             before coming to USA.
        Yes, My family can make use of every extra rupee I can send
        Yes, If I need money tomorrow, GOI is not going to give me any.

Without intending to sound very high, may I ask you if we should require
excuses not to help our country.I am talking about those bits and pieces of 
money, we keep sending to our families.  Looking at the number of Indians in 
US now, a few dollars here and there could accumulate to a sizable sum.   

    I have this question for all those who spend long hours defending India
and India's projects on SCI.  Many of you are graduate students, destined for 
good jobs tomorrow! 

    Are you willing to put your money where  your mouth is ?????
    If at all you send money to India, would you give up a few rupees
    per dollar and let the GOVT have your dollar ????  

    Remember, India does not care whether you can convince Mustafa or not; 
but she does care for your dollar.


regards,

Akhil Choudhury
(Another Hypocrite Indian)
From: rriswad@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: UPDATE SPCE ALUMNI LIST
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:07:28 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

                 ::: SPCE ALUMNI :::

THANX A LOT TO THE GUYS WHO TOOK THE TROUBLE TO MAIL ME INFO.

I WILL WAIT FOR A WEEK FOR MORE RESPONSES AND WILL THEN SEND YOU 
THE FINAL COMPILED LIST 

THERE SEEMS TO BE A SIZABLE NUMBER OF THE ELECS (1990-91) BATCH,
SOME MECHS (1990-91) AND  A POOR SHOW BY THE CIVIL CROWD.

BUT, I KNOW A LOT OF SENIORS OUT THERE (1985-89) BATCHES, FROM
WHOM THE RESPONSES ARE DUE. ANYBODY WANNA PLAY  DETECTIVES ?

SEEMS TO ME ROUGHLY FROM MY PRESENT LIST WE COULD BE A (ELITE, OFFCOURSE)
50 - 60 STRONG GROUP.

BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU'LL

RAJ (RAJENDRA RISWADKAR, B.E (CIV), SPCE, JUL 1990)
( FOR MORE INFO REF. SCI POST NO. 64260 )
OR E-MAIL ME AT RRISWAD@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: swgto@cs.iastate.edu (Swagato Basumallick)
Subject: Re: TRAVEL AGENT: excellent experience
Keywords: Travel, Agent, good experience
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:18:06 GMT

Two points I'd forgotten to mention in my earlier posting

	a) I've purchased my tickets on Thai for a journey from 
17th Dec to 16th Jan: Des Moines (IA) to Calcutta

	b) The travel agency charges you the full airlines fare if you 
charge your ticket; BUT HAS SENT ME THE REFUND CHEQUE ALONGWITH MY TICKETS .


From: ravi@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Ravi Naik)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:30:46 GMT
Subject: Repost: Ventriloquist RAMDAS PADHYE in Bay Area
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota)
Subject: Re: Letter to Bob (Re: Letter to NBC)
Organization: Somewhere near Chicago
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:09:56 GMT


Not that it really ameliorates me from Bob Costas' lawyers (fans), but
the facts I once read about him put him as one of the most versatile
TV persons. That is basically 'cos of his two roles on NBC: talk show host,
and sports commentator. Also he is distinguished as the shortest and
most successful at his business (well, Ted Koppel will also raise up
to it), even though he didn't have any formal training in media. I
remember reading his salaray as close to $3 mil. Oh, well,  that
should at least pay for a nice pin stripes suit and elevator shoes to
wear for dinner with a tall blonde from the Swedish olympic female
swimming team.


Murthy

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: West Bengal: Communists out, ? in
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:12:35 GMT

In article <Jul.27.10.25.48.1992.804@paul.rutgers.edu>, partha@paul.rutgers.edu (the_great_dictator) writes:
>Arindam Wrote:>I did not say CPIM eradicated beggars; but social conditions have improved
>>so that much worse writers (no disrespect intended) like Sunil Ganguly or
>>Samaresh Majumdar (They are certainly great as measured against the
>>contemporaries) can have frequent trips to USA!
>
>So also our great leader of poor people Mr Jyoti Basu, other
>ministers, sports officials etc. Wonder how many people WB govt has
>sent to Barcelona this time, they sent at least 6/7 people to mexico to
>'observe' the world cup soccer (despite the despicable state of
>calcutta in that particular sport, BTW those who are interseted, Kapil
>Dev is playing for one of the 'top' clubs in calcutta this season..)...
>
These two should not be talked in the same vein. The first one is desirable
while the second one is not.


>one should blame the society itself and one should also remember that
>the memory of the world war two was still very vivid.. the war we
>didn't really fight, but we lost in all sense.. in particular  as far as the
>morality and social values go.. thanks to our british rulers and their pally
>congress party who even today think that it was they only who fought
>and won the 'battle of independence' ...
They are not wrong in thinking that. It's people who won independence. Before
independence Congress was the people's party; despite all Marxist rhetoric.
After independence it was not.
Arindam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hockey - Tuesday 28th..
From: balasundar@watt.ccs.tuns.ca
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:02:23 AST

Hi,

India  beat Argentina by a solitary goal..


sridhar balasundar

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jayasim@platypus.cis.ohio-state.edu (D Jayasimha)
Subject: Re: Regarding RAW-Mossad Nexus to Fight Terrorism
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:51:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.212423.16686@u.washington.edu> ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) writes:
[stuff deleted]

>	Israel. The failure of the GOI's actions in Punjab is due to:
>	its deliberate inaction in prosecuting the perpetrators of the 
>	Delhi massacre; a monomaniacal militaristic approach to problem 
>	solving; the incompetence of the Punjab police; criminalization of 
>	the state's security apparatus to the point they are indistinguishable 
>	from the terrorist thugs. The problem is so bad that *any* new approach
							     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	is welcome, I think. I am not sure whether the Mossad training
	^^^^^^^^^^
>	will necessarily lead to a peaceful Punjab (*,$).
[stuff deleted]

All the attempted solutions have a monomaniacal belief in the use of force.
Recruiting the help of the Mossad is *not* a new approach, in my opinion, 
but a culmination, so to speak, in this belief.  It is an implicit
acknowledgment by the GOI that their actions have been right so far but lack
the "incisive, stealth-like, and efficient[sic]" approach that the Mossad,
for example, can provide.  As the recent events even in Israel show, long 
term solutions lie in the path of roses, not guns.

There is, in my opinion, a longer term fall out and that is the danger of
Mossad trained RAW personnel being (mis)used for any kind of trouble that 
is likely to brew in the country in the future.

jayasimha
From: sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: How to use your spare time ( few Tips )
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:49:25 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Nice post .....
Forgot one thing about spare time.....
   - post junk on the sci.... 
(just what i seem to be doing)
Srinath
sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu

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From: mookherj@serss0.fiu.edu (Unforgettable)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Practical Training and Job Change
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:51:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida International Univ.


A friend of mine has this question regarding Practical Training and
change of job:


He is on a Practical training visa working for a company. His lawyer
has got the "prevailing wage" and "LCA" approved by the dept. of labor.
But, his documents haven't yet been filed with INS for the H1.
Meanwhile, he has got a 2nd job offer from another company.
In this situation, can he change jobs on Practical Training ?Or, does he need
to have a H1 from his new employer ?


Please email all responses to: mookherj@fiu.edu


Thanks a lot.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil,alt.culture.us.asian-indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: alt.culture.kerala (r.f.d. kinda thing)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:51:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.220752.22710@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.205638.6574@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>
>>   Furthermore with 100% literacy we can presume that the 
>>   level of discussion will be considerably above the norm 
>>   for alt groups in general and culture groups in particular. 
>
>>        a] The developement of the malayalam language.
>>        b] The developement of the keralite society.
>
>
>Ha! Hum! Let me bring the level of discussion down for a bit if I
>might and express my mild dismay at finding the person who proposed
>the group (with 100% literacy) unfamiliar with the spelling of
>development. ;-)
> 
>George

1] George, dont worry we are going to keep you out anyway :-)

   Only a orthographist of your calibre could point out this
   error for us. Much obliged, Nautius Maximus !
   
2] With friends like this who needs enemies. :-)

3] Stay Cool.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bnv@po.CWRU.Edu (Boddu N. Venkatesh)
Subject: Hi UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA STUDENTS
Reply-To: bnv@po.CWRU.Edu (Boddu N. Venkatesh)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 01:45:56 GMT


Hi,

I am joining UPenn as a PhD student starting Fall 1992. Therefore I am looking
for a place to live starting September 1. If any one of you need a roommate
or know about someone needing one, then I request you to send me email at
bnv@po.cwru.edu or call me at (216) 795-1059.

Thanks in advance,

B. N. Venkatesh



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dea@jec306.its.rpi.edu (Anirban De)
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Degrading social and political life.
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:06:50 GMT


>>>>>>

I remember, during the period following the emergency when the CPIM came to
power. Overnight we went from no loadshedding to prolonged stretches without
power.

>>>>>>

	This is not entirely true. I do remember long periods without
power in Calcutta as far back as 1974-1975. Emergency standby lamps 
had started becoming common household appliance around that time.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.women,talk.abortion
From: udumudi@maxine.wpi.edu (u v babu srinivas)
Subject: Re: Abortion and the status of Indian women
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:13:03 GMT

vkkashya@grand.waterloo.edu (Vijay Kashyap) writes:

: IMHO, this argument does not hold. It was because Nehru did not have a son.
: The next PM after assassination of Indira Ghandhi was a man because
: Rajiv Ghandhi was her son and not her daughter. The point is that it
: is inheritance that is imporatant here rather than worthness or
: opportunities for women in India.

People actually voted Indira Gandhi to power. They VOTED her to power
not just once but again and again. I don't think they had in mind
the fact that she was Nehru's daughter even in 1980, when she came to
power again. I think they believed in her abilities, and that she was
a female didn't really matter. Or may be it did.

-- srinivas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: alt.culture.kerala (r.f.d. kinda thing)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:36:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.155049.29840@newshub.sdsu.edu> sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang) writes:
>paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>---> other stuff deleted <------
>
>: 1] Simple, if the kids dont know the three Rs at birth they get
>:    stamped "Rejected" and sent to the nieghbouring states.
>:    Where they sometimes achieve great fame and go under names
>:    like MGR and Phoenix.
>   -------^^^^^-------
>
>    MGR for your information was born in Sri Lanka. It was more of a rumour
>   that he was malayali than sinhalese, for obvious reasons (LTTE).
>   Don't try and flame me about this fact, for I have the facts.
>I am waiting for the flames to bring out the facts.
> 

1] I meant the "rejected" and sent to other states line as a joke.
   Dont make the rest of us think its true. :-)

>:    
>   (Sorry Paul, couldn't resist it )

2] It is no use saying sorry after hurting my feelings.
  

3] Stay Cool.

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From: karnik@cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:32:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In <nr2r7vs@fido.asd.sgi.com> shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni) writes:

>In article <1992Jul27.173526.23703@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> kgprasan@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Hello There Fella) writes:

>>On a side note, does anybody have any information about the 
>>facilities built for the 82 Games in N.Delhi.

>1. Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium.
>2. Cycling Velodrome (near ISBT).

	That's the Yamuna Velodrome....

>3. ??? Gymnasium (Gymnastics, badminton, volleyball..) near the velodrome.

	Indraprastha Stadium, later renamed Indira Gandhi Stadium....

>4. A swim center.

	Talkatora Swimming Pool. There was also a Talkatora Indoor stadium....

>5. Olympic Village, of course.

	Asiad Village, more likely :-)


>last but not least: a large number of flyovers :-/.
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:25705 soc.culture.pakistan:12650
From: ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Lawyers !!
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:18:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8ePgr1K00VAwMKeEQn
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



The latest Economist gives these figures for lawyers/100,000 population.

At the top of the list is Pakistan ! (508.4 lawyers/100,000 pop.)
Singapore comes in second (396)
US third (312)
Japan is 16th (101.6)
India is 32nd with 34.4.

-arun
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raja@wam.umd.edu (C. K. Subramaniam)
Subject: Info. on Environmental research
Keywords: ER
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:36:55 GMT

Hi, A friend of mine needs information about Environmental reserach in
India. He is interested in the names and addresses of the institutions
involved in environmental research in India and if possible a brief
description of the research concentration at these institutes.  If
somebody out there has any info. regarding this may e-mail directly to
my address. Thanks.

C. K. Subramaniam
University of Maryland
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Abortion and the status of women
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 22:22:53 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center


>From: gayathri@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Gayathri Krishnamurthy)
>
>                                           Oh yes, women were supposed to
>have been respected at sometime in the historic past - and there have
>been women poets and all that - but barring few exceptions, I can't
>remember reading of a time when women had true respect in the family and
>the freedom to choose her way of life - maybe in the B.C s ? If there
>had been such a past when ordinary women had this kind of freedom, I'd
>certainly like to hear about it.
>
I completely agree with Gayathri.  It would be a mistake to say that just
because the position of women in India has been better in SOME respects,
therefore it has been better in all respects, or even ideal.  This is
certainly not so.

However, I would like to point out that there is a confusion here between
freedom and respect.  I think women HAVE had respect in Indian society,
and even in recent times in many communities.  The fact that 1/3 of my
professors were women, says a lot more than a rare case like Mrs. Gandhi.
However, FREEDOM has not been the lot of pretty much ANYONE in Indian
society.  Moreover, even in Europe, as I have seen, people accept a
great deal less freedom than Americans do.  My own feeling is that
this is part of why America is in state of chaos and Europe is not.
But America is also more dynamic in some ways.  There is no absolute
better, just choices.  I read today that Asia, which accounts for half
(or more) of the world's population, accounts for only 1% of the AIDS
cases.  AIDS seems to be highest in the US and in Africa.  So freedom,
sexual or otherwise has a price tag.  Of course  freedom is valuable.
But sometimes, in the US, there seems to be an obsession with it,
rather like the woman who liked pancakes so much that she had trunks
full of them.  Don't get me wrong, I like pancakes myself!!

Rohit Parikh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian