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From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Dream Bike #2: S-works steel
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:31:25 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.bicycles.marketplace, broadley@lrdc5 (Bill Broadley) writes:
>
>New nomination for Dream Bike:
>
>Specialized S-works Steel Tange Prestige with specialized touches.

I have been interested in this bike, too.  I'm looking for a relatively
economical frameset to put my old components (with some upgrades) on.
Because of all the fancy components they put on the complete bike, I
think it retails for about $1500, but if it's available for 40% less
than that, go for it!  The frame and fork are about $570, which is quite
a bit less than an M2 or Klein Rascal frameset.

While in California this summer, I saw quite a few Marin steel frames
which use Tange Prestige Ultimate tubing which is oversize and has an
externally splined downtube.  The dropout attachment to the stays is
also especially beafy looking.  I do not know of any dealers on the
east coast, though.

I was staying in Mill Valley for a couple of days and rented a Fisher
one morning to ride up Mt. Tamalpais.  It tood me about an hour to get
up and maybe 15 minutes down.  This was during the week so I didn't
see any other riders.  I would have loved to have tried a suspension
bike on that stuff; it was pretty rough.  Is it true that they write
tickets for exceeding the 15 mph speed limit (5 on corners)?

David Mackintosh
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: Vancouver and Seattle prices wanted
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo, tcejorP Project.
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:24:32 GMT


I would appreciate someone mailing me the price for Trek 5x00 bikes in
both Vancouver and Seattle/Bellingham.  Info on availability would
also be good.  If possible please include the store name.

Thanks alot.

--
atode, |m         -- "The class of Class is Class class which is a MetaClass."
                         how not to get a date using Smalltalk
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: mitroka@bms.com
Subject: Recumbents For Sale
Reply-To: mitroka@bms.com
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 03:35:43 GMT

Recently I purchased a bike from a fellow who just got into the business.
The bike is a pleasure to ride and I want to pass along the info re its
availability since recumbents can be tought to find - especially in the
northeastern states. 

The bike has over the seat handlebars and a long wheelbase design.  The steering
assembly is positioned about 18 inches back from the front fork and attached to
the fork by a tie rod so it steers like a conventional bike. 

Here are the spec's
Frame: 4130 Chrome-moly steel
Derailleurs: Shimano 300LX ('21 speed' with index shifting)
Freewheel: Shimano Hg50-13/28
Crank set: Shimano Superglide 48/38/28 170 mm Allow Crankarms
Brakes: DiaCompe XCM Alloy Cantilevers
Seat: High density foam with Lycra cover.

Price:  $985. 
Manufacturer:  Avante,  P.O. Box 184
                        Colts Neck  NJ  07722
                        PhNo.  908-409-3646 (Don)

Don handicrafts each bike - I consider mine a work of art.   
Please mention my name if you call or write to him.  

Jim Mitroka  Tinton Falls, NJ
From: jcb (Jim Becker)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Gary Fisher MTBs
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:43:35 GMT
Return-Path: <jcb>
To: warton@ssd.intel.com, postnews


   Subject: pNN: Gary Fisher MTBs
   From: warton@ssd.intel.com (Peter Warton)
   Sender: usenet@SSD.intel.com
   
   I recently bought a Gary Fisher MTB.  I have not seen any net traffic
   on these bikes.  What is the general consensus?  I personally find my
   Hoo Koo E Koo (the name of a trail on Mt. Tamalpias, Marin Co. CA) to 
   be very solid and very responsive.  Opinions anyone?
   
   Peter Warton

My SuperCaliber is wonderful. Dump the steel and get an aluminum bike!

I'm 6'9", 230, and this bike is unbelievably solid under me, with 2.5"
Ground Control Extremes that is..

Now all I need is a front shock to smooth out Hoo Koo E Koo! (at 15mph
or less! :^)).


-jim
--
 -Jim Becker / jcb@ncd.com   /   Network Computing Devices, Inc. (NCD)
From: alby@goldbelt.Corp.Sun.COM (Albert Lopez )
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Mountain Bikes for Sale
Date: 10 Sep 1992 17:06:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: alby@goldbelt.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: goldbelt.corp.sun.com

 2 Mountain Bikes for Sale
 -------------------------

 o  Diamond Back Ascent Ex, Red, 2 years old.
      Original Price: $479
        Asking Price: $275

 o  Mongoose, Blue/White, 3 years old. (seldom used).
      Original Price: $350
        Asking Price: $200

 Call Albert Lopez
      (408) 996-2307 (h)
      (415) 336-2323 (w)




Newsgroups: su.market,rec.bicycles.marketplace,su.cycling.org
From: shannons@leland.Stanford.EDU (Shannon Bishop Snyder)
Subject: For Sale: Old Touring Bike
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 04:16:43 GMT

- 23" Puch Austro-Daimler
- Suntour arx components
- toe clips and water bottle cage
- new back wheel
- $100

Great bike for commuting or campus riding.  Except for a little chipped
paint, it's in excellent condition.

Call Shannon Snyder at 497-2127 or email this account (better to call).

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Subject: Re: Manufacturer Marketing Policies - 2 Big Questions
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo, Good Times Department.
	<1992Sep3.055007.28384@csi.uottawa.ca>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:47:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.055007.28384@csi.uottawa.ca> kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist)) writes:

 >The Canadian federal government recently passed a bill which imposes 60% duty 
 >on all imported bicycles and components as an anti-dumping measure.  Canadian

When is this due to come into effect?  (I am thinking of buying in Canada)

I am not sure I understand.  Even the Canadian bikes should rise in
price since they use entirely imported parts.  The only place I can
see a 'gain' for the Canadians is their frames will be relatively
cheaper and their mark up will not be dutied (guess that could be a
big deal).

What do they mean 'dumping'?  Have they checked prices here (Japan)?
Bikes aer not exactly cheap, even by Canadian standards.  The parts
individually are a little cheaper but you might expect that in the
country of manufacture (lower shipping, ...)

--
atode, |m         -- "The class of Class is Class class which is a MetaClass."
                         how not to get a date using Smalltalk
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: 56cm Vitus Carbon Vitus 9
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Distribution: USA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:40:15 GMT

I am posting this for a friend,

 1 1/2 year old like new (hardly used) Carbon Frame.  D-A BB and headset
installed.  Can be sold frame only or with D-A or Campy Record group/wheels.

He doesn't know what to ask so any offers would be appreaited.

ronf@panther.mot.com

or call Kurt Rapp
840-8200


-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
From: pehren@orion.nrl.navy.mil (Paul Ehrenfreucter)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: MTB Frame
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:50:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Physical Acoustics, Washington, DC

Howdy,

	I'm looking for a used MTB frame.  Just a few criteria: 1) 18, 19
inch size, 2) chromoly, 3) can accomodate 36 mm headset, 4) not a Trek.
(Hope I didn't offend any Trek owners).  Thanks in advance for all replies.

					Sincerely,

					Paul Ehrenfeuchter
 

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: praetzel@marconi.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: Re: Headlight Advice Sought
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:45:26 GMT

In article <P.Etheridge-110992170039@130.123.3.76> news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
>An alternative to the Nightsun is a Canadian brand called BLT.  In NZ they
>are about 2/3 the price of a Nightsun with similar features.  They are twin
>lamp 6V lead-acid systems with a charger.  The high beam on the top end
>model has a 10W halogen bulb.

I have not seen the BLT but a friend has it.  The batteries are in a plastic
container the size of a water bottle and can be easily removed.  I am not
sure about the rest of the system.
  I have just added a trailer (red) light to my rack for an additional
24W load on my batteries.  At $10 for the whole tail light assembly and
$4 for my standard car headlight the only cost in my system was the batteries
(cheap at a surplus store) and a bit of time to fashion the holders.
  But it all depends what you want.  I have found that 60W in the bush
will destroy your night vision because of the reflection from the foliage.
But for riding on the road its great.  Cars notice me.  Before they can
think "is that some twerp on a bike holding up a candle (I mean cateye)"
they have assumed that I am a car or motorcycle.  But it does mean charging
the batteries often or making sure that the battery is secure.
  - Eric 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: oliver@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Christopher Oliver)
Subject: Wanted - Ancient road pedals.
Keywords: Clips, Straps, Quill pedals
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:10:02 GMT

  When I went to Time Racing pedals on my road bike a few years back, my
trusty, loveable, old SunTour Superbs had a new home on my grocery bike.
Peculiar perhaps, but I prefer to have my feet anchored no matter the type
of riding.  The bearings are finally cooked after around eleven years of
various abuse, and I'm sent shopping for a replacement.  Does anyone
have an old pair of these or old Campy quills they wish to part with?
In the same vein, does anyone know where I can get a pair of Binda Extra
straps and some decent clips?  I know this is pretty retro-grouch, but
I can't justify SPD for the clunker no matter how kind it's been to me.
As far as the pedals, it's important that the bearings and cages be in
good shape.  I don't care much about the cosmetics, but I want them to
run well.  Come on now!  Give those antiques a good home!

-- 
Christopher Oliver                           Computer Science Office
Concurrent Computations Research Center      Friedmann Hall
Internet: oliver@cs.wmich.edu                Western Michigan University
                                             Kalamazoo, Michigan, 49008-5021
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Mt Bike Action & other journals
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:04:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: SMIS, Massey University

I'm thinking of subscribing to Mt Bike Action, but before doing so, would
be interested in discussion of the merits or otherwise of the competing
publications. I read a post recently saying the Mountain Biking (ex Mt &
City Biking) has improved.  I used to subscribe to Bicycling Plus
Mountainbike but wasn't interested in all the road-oriented stuff or the
lack of critical attention new products recieved.  Any other thoughts?

--
Phil Etheridge               P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz
Macintosh Consultant         Phone: +64+6-356-9099 x8689
SMIS, Massey University      Fax:   +64+6-350-5611
Palmerston North, NZ         40*23'S 175*37'E,    GMT+12
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: heinold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Clint Heinold)
Subject: questions about a used bicycle
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:54:00 GMT

Hello!

This is my first posting to this group, so please bear with me.

I have been looking for a racing/fast touring bicycle on and off
for some time and have decided to buy a used one.

I have found a used Miyata 512 for $200 and I would like to get
a little information about this bike from an outside source.

My questions are the following:

	Although I know you haven't seen the bike, what is a resonable
	price for such a bike?  It is in good condition (few signs of
	wear) and it is about four years old.

	Is this a quality bike?  I would like to hear from owners of
	this or similar bicycles.  What do you like/dislike about it?

Here are some of the bike's features:

Shimano xage Component Group
racing style index shifters
triple butted chrome moly frame
700C aluminum rims with skinny 25C clincher tires

Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated.
Please respond via email, or post to the group if this is acceptable.

Thanks!
Clint
heinold@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu


Xref: sparky rec.bicycles.marketplace:252 rec.bicycles:22475
From: jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: NiCads in the Cateye Halogen Headlight?
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:44:05
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
	<1992Sep9.120652.234032@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: deb1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu's message of 9 Sep 92 12:02:15 GMT

> I'd like to increase the versatility and especially the thrift
> of the Cateye HL500 Halogen Headlamp by using rechargeable
> NiCad "C" cells in place of standard C cells.

=v= I've done it.  It works great.

=v= I also have solar-recharging headlight for my bike, but
it's not as well built as the Cateyes are.  Seems to me a nice
amorphous silicon solar cell glommed onto the top of the Cateye
would be a win.

=v= I've got some of the new nickel hydride "C" cells.  They
last longer and have no "memory" to worry about.  They cost
quite a bit more, but that's only because they've not been
mass-produced yet.
    <_Jym_>
--
He's different from me.  I'm 64 and he's 41.  And that's good,
that's positive.
                -- President George Bush, referring to Dan Quayle.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Headlight Advice Sought
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 02:27:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: SMIS, Massey University

flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) wrote:

> I'm one commuter that looks for lights that can be taken off when I reach
> my destination. What's the use of having these nice expensive lighting
> systems if they get stolen while you're working?
> 
> The cateyes are great because they can be quickly taken off and carried
> in with you.

Nightsuns have a quick release so that you can do just that.  

The BLT set (which I have) requires tools to remove, although this can be
done quickly if suitably equipped.  I am fortunate to be able to take my
bike into my office at work, and my bike is never left (locked) anywhere in
the open for more than 1/2 an hour.  I take the battery and other easily
removable parts with me.  I figure I'd have to be pretty unlucky for a
suitably equipped theif to happen upon my bike during the time I leave it
locked up outside.  If it has to be left for more than say 1/2 an hour,
it's worth making the effort to find somewhere safe for it (e.g. the
friendly local bike shop, a friend's house or office, etc).

--
Phil Etheridge               P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz
Macintosh Consultant         Phone: +64+6-356-9099 x8689
SMIS, Massey University      Fax:   +64+6-350-5611
Palmerston North, NZ         40*23'S 175*37'E,    GMT+12
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: rqb@cco.caltech.edu (Rajesh Q. Bilimoria)
Subject: Re: going clipless 
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:38:35 GMT

I recently bought my bike and pedals. I got a pair of shimano shoes (i for
get the model number) and look pp156 pedals for $109 total. the pedals
seem to be fine; they do not have adjustable tension. i'm not sure, but
it looks like the higher you go in the look line you get reduced mass and
adjustable tension. My shoes are pretty good. I tried new balance and they
didn't fit well and felt a little "cheap". the shimano's i bought were
listing in the store for $70. again, the more expensive shimano shoes
i looked at only claimed to be lighter. I bought my stuff at my local
bike shop (pasadena cyclery) which has okay prices. (the pedals and shoes
were on sale).

for what it's worth...

Q

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: hamid@telesoft.com (Hamid Radvar @lone)
Subject: 1991 TREK 700 18inch forsale, San Diego
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:58:32 GMT

21 speed 18" bike
White with blue and green Decals, black seat, handle bar and pedals.
Quick release wheels and seat.
Shimano 200GS rapidfire shifters and brakes.
Trek Airflex seat.
Water bottle, and cage.
Advent U-lock (never installed).
Car rack by Hollywood, fits most cars.

The bike has only around 100 miles on it.  Well kept (indoors).
Paid $400 for everything, asking $275.
Reply thru email please.
Hamid (619)587-0608
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: disc@quads.uchicago.edu (Little Fluffy Cloud)
Subject: Re: Trek 7000 vs Motiv (Namebrand vs Offbrand--good idea?)
Reply-To: disc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Something fatal.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:57:28 GMT


While Trek is, in my opinion, overpriced, it is undoubtedly a better bike
than the "Price Club" offbrand.  One should not only consider componentry, 
but the quality of a frame/fork.  Even if the tubing is the same, if the 
geometry is better or the quality of the machining and welding is better on
one bike than another, it may very well be worth even $300 or more.

Jerry Dischler    disc@quads.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: andyw@andy.medesign.caltech.edu (Andy Wells)
Subject: FOR SALE: good wheels!
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: la
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:16:18 GMT


BICYCLE WHEELS FOR SALE

-- one pair of 700c sew-up racing wheels
-- one rear wheel

Details:

Racing wheels:
	Campagnolo Record hubs and skewers
	36H, DT spokes, 6 speed spacing
	Ambrosio Montreal Durex anodized sew-up rims, 700c
	Regina freewheel 13-21 (5 speed, though hub is 6 speed width)
	Clement Futura kevlar-belted tires, new

	These are really hot wheels!  I bought them from a category 2 
	racer who hadn't used them much, then I only used them a couple
	of times.  They've been sitting around for about 8 years, but
	they're ready to roll!  A couple of the rim grommets are loose,
	but the rims are stilll in excellent shape and are fully functional.

	The new tires alone would cost you more than $20 each, but I'm
	asking $90 for the entire set-up.  These are really nice wheels,
	and are a perfect step up from lightweight clinchers.

Rear wheel:
	Shimano Via hub with freehub and skewer
	36H, 6 speed spacing
	Super Champion Gentleman clincher rim, 700x25c (narrow)
	Freewheel cogs included:
		13 outer, 15 outer
		15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, 24, 28
		many cogs have little wear
	Specialized Touring II 700x25c tire, low miles

	This wheel has been used a lot, but it's still very functional!
	The freehub has a slight eccentricity which makes it wobble a 
	little when you're not pedaling, but if you don't look, it's not 
	even noticeable.  With all the freewheel cogs, you can set up any
	gear you like and change gearing easily--just like having five 
	different freewheels!

	Since this wheel has a lot of miles on it, I'm only asking $15 
	for it.  It'll serve you well as a general-purpose wheel for
	touring or riding fast.

If you'd like to see either of these sets or would like more information,
please contact

Andy Wells
(818)356-4165 (work)
(818)449-7658 (home)
andyw@design.caltech.edu
From: jdr40@ccc.amdahl.com (John Ritter)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: For Sale
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:42:52 GMT
Reply-To: jdr40@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (John Ritter)
Distribution: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

For Sale, Cannondale SR800. Series 3.0 Crit frame. 'Like New' condition
with only minor nicks on the paint that have been touched up with original
Cannondale paint. Complete Shimano 600 Ultegra groupo, Wolber aero profile
wheels, Modolo stem/handlebars, 175mm cranks, Continental GP tires. Color
is 2 tone blue/white. All components have just been rebuilt and are in
excellent shape. This bike has never been crashed. A steal at $650.
From: rgo@druhi.att.com (Ron Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: MTB Bar Ends vs Scott Bars
Keywords: both work well
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:37:21 GMT
Reply-To: r.g.olsen@att.com
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Denver CO

Mark Erickson writes:
> Scott MTB handlebars (the ones with the integral bar ends, like
> the AT-3) appear to be much lighter than the combined weight
> of regular bars and bar ends.  
> 
> Anybody have a good reason to go with regular bars/ends rather than
> the Scotts?

I've used both a straight bar with bar-ends and the Scott AT2-LF
bar with integral bar ends.

The Scott AT2-LF is much lighter: 180g in the 21.5" size,
vs. 360g for a 21.5" titanium bar (160g) with Onza aluminum L-bend
bar ends (200g).

The AT2-LF bar doesn't flex during hard climbing,
but the Scott AT-3 and AT-3LF bars are reported to have noticeable flex.

The straight bar with bar-end gives you a slightly wider base hand
position than the AT2-LF; but the AT2-LF gives you more hand positions
around the curved part of the bar.

I'm currently using the Scott AT2-LF and and very pleased with it.
Anyone want to buy a titanium bar and Onza bar ends?

	Ron Olsen
	Boulder, Colorado
	r.g.olsen@att.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: "Ben Wildasin" <bwildasi@whale.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Suntour merchandise
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:49:20 -0500


Amidst the glut of Shimano and Campy merchandise, the only clothing item I
have seen printed with the Suntour logo is the shorts from Colorado
Cyclist. Does anyone know of a mail-order source for Suntour jerseys,
t-shirts, caps, water bottles, frame decals, etc?

Also, do any mail-order houses stock other-than-top-of-the-line components
such as X-1, XCE, Radius, SL, and so on?
-- 
"It is computed, that eleven thousand persons have, | Ben Wildasin
 at several times, suffered death, rather than      |
 submit to break their eggs at the smaller end."    | bwildasi@indiana.edu
                                 -- Jonathan Swift  | bwildasi@iubacs.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: Re: Bianci touring bike
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:32:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.141259.15585@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts) writes:
 
>
>I recently had the pleasure of riding a Bianci touring bike.  I am
>considering buying one new or used.  Could someone please tell
>me the current status of the Bianci bike and opinions.  I know
>the Japanese bikes have been big in the shops of late and I find
>most of the Italian manufacturers only sell frames.
>
Bianchi's low end, like most low ends, have frames welded in Taiwan.
I have a Bianchi Axis and I think it's a wonderful bike. I just
steered a friend to a Bianchi cross bike, and she loves her bike, too.
 
         --mike