HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: GFA Basic Manual Wanted
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:43:30 GMT

In article q8PJuB2w165w@comtch.spk.wa.us, mhughes@comtch.spk.wa.us (Mark Hughes) writes:
>
>  Yeah - wait until GFA 4.0 comes out and order it...  Here's the 
>address and phone number for Richter, who now makes GFA for the ST.  

<< stuff deleted >>

Mark, there has been a LOT of confusion lately as to the status of GFA BASIC
for the Atari platform.  I too, thought that Richter had purchased the entire
rights to the Atari version but evidently, this is NOT so.  Here is an
excerpt from a letter by John Barger, Tech Director at GFA Software Tech in
Salem, Mass that was in the Nov issue of Current Notes:

"It is important for people to know that GFA-BASIC and GFA Software
Technologies, Inc., are here to stay and fully support the Atari market.
Said support can be shown in the imminent release of GFA BASIC 3.7 with more
new features than you can "shake a joystick at" (including a new GEM-Based
editor, a faster compiler, and Falcon/Multi-TOS compatability).

If Richter ever comes out with a 4.0 GFA BASIC with all the features that
were rumored/promised in an earlier post here, then that's fine with me.
But in the meantime, GFA Software Technologies in the US is still with us.

For more info, contact:

GFA Software Technologies, Inc.
27 Congress Street
Salem, MA  01970
(508)744-0201

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___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: rh0083b@medtronic.COM (Roger-Hunen)
Subject: READ problem with Wangtek 5150ES tape drive
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:29:14 GMT

I have a problem with my Wangtek 5150ES and my Atari ST (host adapter is ICD
Advantage-Plus ST). On the same SCSI bus is a 105 MB Quantum drive that works
just fine.

Using the TAPETEST program that comes with TAPEBIOS it appears that I can
write to the tape (I verified that on a SUN Sparc), but I cannot read! When I
do a read, the tape moves (so the command apparently makes it to the drive),
but the TAPEBIOS software hangs waiting for a status byte. After a couple of
minutes the software times out, but the SCSI bus is still busy (I can no
longer access the disk drive). The data buffer in ST memory has not been
written to (still filled with zeroes).

Do you have an idea what is wrong here? Is my software broken? Did I
misconfigure the drive?

Best regards,
-Roger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Falcon '030 BUS: 16 or 32 bit?
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:36:52 GMT

In article 23753@prime.mdata.fi, paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau) writes:

> I'm going to get a heart attack if Falcon turns up with a 16-bit data bus.  


Better stock up on a supply of nitroglycerine tablets right now, then.  :)
Don't sweat it, though.  It will still be a nice machine... eventually.

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___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: TOS 2.05 vs 2.06 ?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 01:15:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.194812.10824@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
>OK, here's an easy one.  Someone asked me the other day what the differences
>between TOS 2.05 and 2.06 were.  I understood there were just a couple of
>minor bug fixes but is there more?  Does 2.05 support the 1.44Mb format?
>Just curious so I'll have the right answers the next time.

a) Yes, it'll support READING 1.4MB format.
b) No, it won't support FORMATTING 1.4MB disks.

If you use a SCSI floppy, a driver comes in between, so that it won't
matter which TOS you use (altho >= 1.4 is probably better, for reasons
that have been hashed out FAR too many times with respect to Hard Drives)
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From: chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (John C. Chu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Falcon '030 BUS: 16 or 32 bit?
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:12:49 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Nov18.023809.29786@rmece49.upr.clu.edu> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez) writes:
>   Thanks for the final facts.  This means that it has the same address
>bus as the A1200 (the 68EC020 has a 24-bit address bus which is 16Megs),
>and the A1200 should be around twice as fast due to a true 32-bit data bus.

Just to be anal retentive (sorry, too much computer architecture and
performance analysis this semester...)

The A1200 could be *up to* twice as fast due to a true 32-bit data bus
assuming that the bus was a bottleneck in the system (likely for some
applications, unlikely for others). This also assumes that everything
else between the two systems are identical, which, of course, they are
not. About the only conclusion that anyone can draw with any certainty
is that the A1200 might be faster in certain applications, while the
Falcon might be faster in others. (This is about as precise as "Well,
it might get colder when winter comes around then it might warm up
again when we get to spring" :-) ) There is also no way to "know" for
sure until both machines are out.

In any case, who really cares which one is "faster" (meaningless term
without a context) or "better" (another meaningless term when without
a context)? Most of the Atari fanatics on the net I have been in
contact with wouldn't think of buying an Amiga and most of the Amiga
fanatics on the net I have been in contact with wouldn't think of
buying an Atari. (This is not to say there are no reasonable Atari
owners or reasonable Amiga owners. Of course, there are. However, you
can only do so much analysis when you are missing most of the facts.)

Frankly, I hope both computer companies do excellently and maybe
someday we won't have such a PC clone dominated industry. (I just say
this because I don't like working on the PC platform.) I know, dream on...

					john
				chu@acsu.buffalo.edu
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From: beaumont@sics.se (Anthony Beaumont)
Subject: fontgdos and Timeworks DTP
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:00:04 GMT


Can someone help me with a problem I have using fontgdos.

I have a copy of Timeworks DTP (the complete version 1 given on the cover disk
of AtariST review).  I have tried to make it work with fontgdos, and my BJ10ex
printer.  My problem is that immediately after I finish printing a document,
drive A is accessed and then the machine freezes displaying 4 bombs.  The
printed document is perfect but I can't continue afterwards unless I reboot
first.  Can anyone suggest what is wrong and how I might fix it.  If I use
gdos and the gdos epson printer.sys then the thing works ok but the printed
documents are only at 180dpi and I'd like both better quality and to make use
of fontgdos.

To use printer fonts that are 360dpi, I have setup Timeworks using the 360dpi
fonts for NEC printers and used the BJ10e printer.sys from the fontgdos
package.  My fontgdos bitmap cache is 400K.  My system has no HD, only 2
double sided floppy drives.  The startup files are in drive A and the
fonts/documents are on drive B (I have a 2.5Mb Atari 520 STFM with TOS 1.2).

I'd prefer email responses as I don't always get time to read this newsgroup.
My address is beaumont@cs.bris.ac.uk

-Tony
From: knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org (Frank Bartels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Installation of TOS 1.4 (6 chip set)
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:52:22 GMT
	<1ef926INNsbs@golem.wcc.govt.nz>
Organization: Knarf's UUCP-Center, Munich, West-Germany
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.161903.27845@newshost.lanl.gov>, hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson) writes:
>>In article a6wLmlL3OuU@nasim.sta.sub.org, knarf@nasim.sta.sub.org (Frank Bartels) writes:
(that's me!)

>>>Could anyone please tell me the Part No.'s of the six EPROMS I'll need
>>>to use for making TOS 1.4 EPROMS?

>>Ouch!  Being just a little bit bold, aren't you Frank?  The software encoded
>>in Atari TOS ROMs (any version) is _still_ copyrighted and may not be
>>legally duplicated without authorization from Atari.>

I have the *two* original TOS 1.4 ROMs laying next to me because I
upgraded my MEGA ST to TOS 2.06! I won't need these ROMs any more and a
girlfriend with (my old :-) 520 ST has TOS 1.0 with *six* chips! I want
to copy my two ROMs into six EPROMS in order to install them into her
Atari! I'll give her my original ROMs, too!

That is legal!

>>___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
>>_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
>>________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
>>____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________>


>There is a catch to this and its legal..

>You can copy the Roms and patch them for you own use ONLY, and its the same 
>for software, what you own is yours and you can do what you like with it..??

>This is how the KAOS TOS works, its a set of patches that you copy into
>copies of your own TOS 1.4 Roms...

Exactly! What I want to do is to patch her EPROMs with WINX 2.0. It
supports 40 Windows under GEM and minimized slider bars and more! There
is a CPX-Module to configure the new features.
You do not need to patch your ROMs, but it saves memory and loading time
I think. If you have TOS 1.xx simply put WINX.PRG in your AUTO folder.
If you have TOS 2.xx you'll need GEMRAM for copying your GEM into RAM.
If you have a TT look into the WINX documentation: There are some
Utilities recommended.

>So I think I caught you out this time John...

fighting? :-)

>Eproms are 256k 150ns or better...

Can I go to an electronic dealer and ask for 256k (kBit i think) EPROMs
with 150ns or better. Won't he ask me for the pin compatibilities to any
ROM?

>Roger...............             sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Knarf
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: faype@bcvms.bc.edu
Subject: Need advice on 1.4M drive****
Organization: Boston College
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:47:56 GMT

I have an ancient ST520, and need a new external drive.  Does anyone know
if I can swap in a 1.4Meg instead of the 720K?  Do I need a new driver,
even if I just want to read/write 720K disks?
-pete

faype@bcvms.bc.edu

P.S. I have some ancient TOS version, I'm not sure what - 2.0?
From: plate@cdsmn.mn.org (Doug Plate)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: What is the secret of Software Overscan?
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:02:22 GMT
Organization: Dicomed, Inc.


Ok friends!  I've seen many demos that are able to fill the entire
screen with graphics.  What is the secret to doing this in software?

I have an STe and I'd like to be able to simply display images in
an overscan mode for video titling, etc.  Does anyone know how it's
done?

Regards,
Doug Sr.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject: Re: Reply to Matt (floptical)
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:26:33 GMT

>  I have a ICD controller of some sort and a 50MB hard drive in my
>  Mega4, does that mean I can tap into that, or do I still need that
>  "LINK" cable?   

>  Also, just like in the other thread:  can you suggest sources/prices for
>  the hardware?

I would contact ICD for exact information, (815) 968-2228 ask for Howard.
But I have connected multiple external drives to my ICD AdSCSI+. The 
50 pin cable runs from the host adapter to the dirve in the case to the
external 50 pin SCSI connector. I use an external terminating resistor 
that is inside a SCSI connector hood. So I can just daisy chain SCSI
devices, moving the terminator to the last drive.

I know that ICD will only make their CD-ROM software for the ACSI port
available with either the LINK host adapter, or the Professional version
of their software. It may be the same for the floptical software, but I
recommend calling ICD and verify.


Brian, WS1S
Bell Northern Research
Research Triangle Park, NC
bjgrier@bnr.ca
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 1MB STE SIMMS: - are they 70ns?
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:07:07 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov19.123014.23076@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
  <1992Nov20.102142.11985@daimi.aau.dk>

Re: questions about 1Meg SIMMs for the STe upgrades..
 
The ST only NEEDS 150ns memory.  Buy whatever you can find that's
cheapest.. normally that will be a 1 Meg x 9, 70ns SIMM.
 
Be sure to get either 1Meg x 8 or 1Meg x 9 SIMMs, not any other
internal organization (those are usually more expensive anyway).
 
The STe can use either 1x8 or 1x9 without having to change anything.

BobR
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mouse wander - acceptable?
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:04:56 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

In <hjv.721933634@groucho.phil.ruu.nl> hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra) writes:

>otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO) writes:

>>My ATARI dealer sold me a mouse for my STe 1040 which frequently starts
>>to wander around the screen by itself - without me touching the mouse.
>>The problem is of course that in some programs, if it pulls down a menu,
>>the program will not respond to keyboard inputs.  

>>My dealer tells me this is common to all non-atari mice, and is due to
>>"very strong signals from the mouse".

What a load of   it.

I have a non-atari mouse that also exhibits this behavious.  It is a "xydexzc"
(or something like that - white with orange symbol/name).

It has a switch on the bottom to switch between Amiga and Atari mouse.  And guess
what - it exhibits similar behaviour on the Amiga, except that there it vibrates
rather than wandering, but that's just the different way Amigas and Ataris
use the 4 mouse input lines.  (ie. on the Atari, the mouse is oscilating the
"move now" strobe, while on the Amiga, it oscilates the "direction" strobe,
effectively)

It doesn't bother me... much.

--
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From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Silent Service 2
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:49:24 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

But if one doesn't have ANY Silent Service, would SS1 or SS2 be the better
choice?  I knwo I want SOME Silent Service!   :)

				-Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oyakea@rs6201.ecs.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake)
Subject: CUMANA OS/9
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:50:21 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz)
Subject: inexpensive atari for music
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:21:51 GMT

i've been thinking about getting a computer to use for electronic music -
sequencing, sampling, synthesizing. but i don't have that much money to
spend. more than once person has suggested i get an atari - perhaps an old 520 -
and collect PD software and i'll be able to get everything i could want. how
realistic is this? what could i do; what could i not do? how much would it run
me, do you think, and what, in general, are people's impressions of what's
available free or cheap? etc etc. any and all information on this appreciated.

thanks,

mike

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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Subject: Re: 16MHz & GEnie
Keywords: 16Mhz GENIE
	<1992Nov20.020401.12428@admiral.uucp>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:05:24 -0800

In <1992Nov20.020401.12428@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:

>In article <1992Nov16.143321@cs.bham.ac.uk> dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley) writes:
>>Two questions...
>>
>>1> Anyone any ideas on getting my Mega/STE into 16MHz mode before
>>running games which boot from the bootsector?

>Here's an idea. Forget it. Most games "break the rules" and are so dependent on
>the system timing of an 8Mhz ST, that they just won't run in 16Mhz. 

	As i have an ADSpeed with an external switch, I'd like to point out
that most of the incompatabilities tend to be in custom disk load
routines, so with a switchable processor, a lot of games that won't load
at 16 will play at 16. You sghould see Vroom at 16mhz. Blows away some
dedicated arcade machines. 
	A local store claims to have worked out a way to wire a Mega STe
with a switch, but they won't say how they do it. Maybe someone with
access to the circuit diagrams would be able to figure it out and ost a
text file. One drawback, from what I'm told. If the switch is installed,
you lose the ability to software switch the speed, unlike the ADSpeed.

-- 

 "If Rush fans were braindead, why are there so   Bruce Bufalini
 many people posting to alt.music.rush?"              PSU
From: mae@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Mark Eve)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:57:43 GMT
Subject: Wanted: Site with GEMVIEW 2.1
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Reply-To: mae@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Mark Eve)

Is there an ftp site with GEMVIEW 2.1 known or is the only way to obtain this
application by direct mail to its author?

Thanks in advance for any help,

Mark Eve.
From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world,local
Organization: None
Subject: Re: More Falcon news...
	<1992Nov21.162444.4016@arizona.edu>
	<1992Nov22.211147.1377@u.washington.edu>
	<1992Nov22.224652.1316@solace.hsh.se>
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:19:06 MET

In <1992Nov22.224652.1316@solace.hsh.se>, Hans Holmberg writes:
>In <1992Nov22.211147.1377@u.washington.edu> dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>>Um, maybe I'm missing something here... but my TT most certainly runs at
>>32 MHz...
>
>Yes and no. The 68030 and your TT-ram (if you have any) in your TT runs on
>32MHz, but all the rest is running on 16MHz (ST-ram, dma etc.)
>
>>Dan Aylward
>>dud@u.washington.edu
>
>Hasse
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Please read the original postings.... 
The only thing that runs at 32 MHZ in the TT is the CPU/FPU!!!!
TT-Ram have a 16MHZ clock!!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk (Adam Pelled)
Subject: Re: ATARI - Secret
Reply-To: apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:01:00 +0000


In article <1elmm3INN5bp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>I'm not an Atari basher or anything, but I definitely believe that the company
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Could have fooled me :-)

    Adam.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Atari seen in Compuke! magazine
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:48:28 GMT

>days of Compute! does anyone remember reading the article about the new
>computer being designed that eventually became the Amiga?  I remember they
>talked some about the likelyhood of it's becoming part of the Atari stable. 
>Anyway....can anyone tell me what the 'working' name for the Amiga was?  hint:
>Amiga was part of the name (I think Amiga might have been the name of the
>group/company who developed it)????
>				-Matt

Amiga was indeed the name of the company that designed the Amiga, although the
working name of their computer escapes me at the moment. All I remember is that
before Amiga got into the computer-designing business, they made/sold joysticks
for other computers. Kinda appropriate that they should ultimately design a
game computer...


-- 
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From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: 21 meg floptical to MEGA ST4 -- HOW?
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:20:53 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> Anyone considering upgrading an ST to a 1.44 meg drive should consider       
> purchasing a 21 meg floptical; I did. No AJAX chip installation or drive
> installation. Just plug the drive into a LYNX connector and boot with ICD's
> version 6 software and your can read/write 720K, 1.44 meg and 21 meg disks
> on the same drive. The money you save on not getting the 1.44 meg drive takes
> you well along the way to buying the floptical.

I'm still curious about this fl-optical thingy...

Take my platform and explain what I would need in order to use one.

Atari Mega ST4 DS Internal drive only -- NO HARD DRIVE.   :(
Old Color Mon.  (irrelevant)
standard everything-else....

And how much dollars to get to functional use?

			-Matt
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st