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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: BONAIRE: Recommendations needed for accomodations for snorkeling/scuba
Keywords: Bonaire
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:25:35 GMT

My parents have decided to take a week-long vacation to Bonaire in May or
June of this year, mostly to snorkel, and I've decided to accompany them --
mostly as this is the first of their vacations in years that hasn't included
mountain climbing or crossing the desert with a backpack (my folks are *not*
feeble.)  We're currently reading up on accomodations (the various tourist
guides, along with issues of UNDERCURRENT and "Divers Speak Out"); and while
I plan to get a day or two of scuba diving in while I'm there, the majority
of the diving will be snorkeling from the shore, something many of the dive
guides don't go into in detail.  We plan to rent a car and go snorkeling all
over the west shore of the island, but would like to do some "right off the
back porch", so to speak.

We're looking for a pretty low-key place -- not spartan, but definitely not
swank or "party city".  We plan to spend as much time in the water as
possible; a condo would be fine.  Main goals are a) comfort and nice
atmosphere, and b) good snorkeling from the shore.  Hotel support for scuba
diving isn't an item on our "want" list; I plan to sign up for a couple
dives with one of the recommended dive outfits on my own while I'm there.

We've noticed a couple of places that get good recommendations in several of
the guides; if you've had any experiences with these (or any other
hotels/condos), I'd greatly appreciate hearing from you.  The places we've
seen recommended are:

    *   Captain Don's Habitat

    *   Sand Dollar Beach Club

    *   Carib Inn

    *   Bonaire Beach Bungalows

    *   Sunset Inn

I'd be happy to summarize any comments I get for the group in a couple of
weeks.  Thanks!

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From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Barbados recommendations
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:57:38 GMT
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Division, Annapolis, MD, USA

I'm planning a trip to Barbados next month, and would like recommendations
on dive operators in the area.  I'm staying near Maxwell which is along
the south coast halfway between Bridgetown and the airport.

Also, I would appreciate recommendations on things to do/see while not
diving.

Thanks, Mark
-- 
	Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
		   cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2147
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Sherwood Blizzard Regulators
From: burd@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:20:12 -0800
Reply-To: BURD@vax.sonoma.edu
Organization: Sonoma State University

Does anyone know of any mail-order places that carry the Sherwood
Blizzard regulator? Or some stores in California perhaps?

Erik Burd
vax.sonoma.edu  Sonoma State Univ. Rohnert Pk. CA

BURDD@vax.sonoma.edu

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: markc@hpcvxjme.cv.hp.com (Mark Cook)
Subject: Re: U.W. Photo Courses
Reply-To: markc@cv.hp.com
Organization: UTD-CV Corvallis, OR
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:59:20 GMT

In article <1jknjnINN23c@lynx.unm.edu>, mulberry@triton.unm.edu writes:

> Can anybody recommend places to go for instruction
> in underwater photography?  I prefer the Carribean
> area.

You can take the PADI Underwater Photography course at Riding Rock
Inn, Sal Salvador, Bahamas.  Bob Maar, on of the dive masters at
the operation is certified to teach the course.  It consists of
one afternoon of classroom work, plus to tutored dives, one deep
dive (60-80 ft.) with a standard lens, and one shallow dive (~25 ft.)
with a set of extension tubes for close-up work.  The course cost
is about $160.00 (if I remember correctly).  It's best if you've
already got your own Nikonos, but they'll rent the necessary camera
gear for a small additional fee.  They *do* provide loaner extension
tubes free of charge as part of the course.

I took it from Bob this last June, and I really got a lot out of
it.  The close-up shots I took are some of the best underwater
photos I've ever taken.

Later,

        Mark F. Cook

USMail: Hewlett-Packard
        User Interface Technology Division - Corvallis (Tech. Marketing)
        1000 NE Circle Blvd.  Corvallis, OR 97330

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From: peterson@hpl.hp.com (Chris Peterson)
Subject: Re: U/W Photo Equip. Sources
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:12:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, California
Keywords: U/W Photo

In article <1993Jan22.151332.6119@alias.com> jamieson@alias.com (M Jamieson) writes:
>I'm interested in purchasing a used/new 15mm Nikon lens for use with
>my Nikonos V/III. It doesnt matter if its the old or new style. Oh yeah,
>and the appropriate finder to go with it.
>
>Does anyone know of any good, reputable outlets that sell new/used
>U/W photo gear in North America that I could call or fax?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Mark
>. 

	By reputation, the local source for the best prices on Nikon/Nikonos
	gear in "Silicon Valley" is 

		San Jose Camera
		1600 S. Winchester Avenue (corner of Hamilton)
		Campbell, CA 95008 USA
		(408) 374-1880

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Hewlett-Packard Laboratories                           phone: (415) 857-6432
Palo Alto, California USA                                fax: (415) 857-5686
From: bangs@cs.utk.edu (Alex L. Bangs)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: US Divers Micra
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:44:00 -0500
Organization: CS Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu
Summary: advice wanted on US Divers Micra regulator
Keywords: us divers micra regulator

Once again, I'm asking for advice/experience. I have been looking at US Diver's
regulators at the recommendations of some folk, and I tried them out last
weekend. I was really impressed with the Micra. It is the first time I
have tried a regulator that truly felt different. The only thing I don't
like about it is that the small size and lack of long exit ports means that
if you are sitting in place, the bubbles tend to go up your face more than
on other regulators.

Anyone have experience with this regulator? Does it hold up well? Is the 
performance at depth acceptable (according to US Divers it should be, but...)?
Any comments on US Diver's regulators in general?

Feel free to post or e-mail comments. I can post a summary or put it into the
archive. I have found that posting comments can be useful since it gets
some responses... (see the Zeagle thread ;-)

Thanks in advance,
Alex
From: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Zeagle BC's
Date: 20 Jan 93 21:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) 

  >Today, I went to a shop and saw a Zeagle BC. I've seen this one advertised,
  >but the first time I saw it in the flesh. The store has them on sale as well,
  >which is cool. I like the adjustability, the ability to interchange components,
  >and the integrated weight.
  >
  >Does anyone have experience with the Zeagle BC's? How about vs. SeaQuest?

When in training I used old Seaquest BCs, while I found them usable, they 
seemed to be a bit uncomfortable on the surface.  I also disliked the weight
belt pulling down while the BC "pulled" up while vertical underwater.  The 
used Zeagle I bought for my advanced cert. solved both of those problems.
I've nothing but praise for the one I've got, and wish I could of used it more
recently - no active diving in the past 2 years!  :-(

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From: jms@tennis.tucson.az.us (Tempus meum tero)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Virgin Gorda vs. Grand Cayman
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:26:00 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: spring.tucson.az.us
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50A

In article <1993Jan22.113911@is.morgan.com>, scairns@fsg.com writes...

(some good comments, only one of which needs correction)

>On VG, there's Dive BVI which operates out of two locations, Virgin
>Gorda Yacht Harbor and Leverick Bay up at North Sound.  There's also

THREE locations.  VGYH, Leverick Bay, AND now on Peter Island.  So,
if you get your boat in Tortola, you can get there in about an hour
to pick up tanks the first night.  We rented 14 tanks from them and
were very happy with their service---free fills at all 3 locations.

jms

Joel M Snyder, 1103 E Spring Street, Tucson, AZ, 85719 
Phone: 602.882.4094 (voice) .4095 (FAX) .4093 (data)
BITNET: jms@Arizona  Internet: jms@arizona.edu  SPAN: 47541::telcom::jms
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: llepore@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com (Leland C. Lepore x2195)
Subject: United Divers of NH Meeting Announcement
Organization: Lockheed Sanders
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:36:42 GMT




                    United Divers of New Hampshire


 The next meeting of United Divers of New Hampshire is scheduled for
 February 1st, 1993 at the Manchester YMCA, located on Mechanic Street,
 at 7:30 PM.  United Divers of New Hampshire holds its meeting on the
 1st and 3rd Mondays of the month from January through November.
 Meeting are held from 7:30 PM to 8:30 PM, followed by 1 hour of pool
 time for members.  United Divers of New Hampshire is looking for new
 members from the newly certified SCUBA diver to the person who has
 been diving for many years. The public is always welcome to attend
 meetings in order to learn about the sport of SCUBA diving.  Meetings
 consist of guest speakers who address dive-related issues, and is
 usually followed by an open forum for questions and answers.

 The subject of the February 1st meeting will be Ice Diving.  Bob
 DesRuisseaux, our club Divemaster, will be talking about Ice Diving as
 well as providing training for anyone unfamiliar with the procedures
 required for this.  He will also be giving in-pool training on the use
 of ice diving gear and lines.  Also, Wayne Russell, will be showing a
 video of Ice Diving at Glen Ellis Falls, New Hampshire.

 For more information, please contact any Executive Board Officer
 listed below:

 President:         Fred Dion           432-1997 (days)
 Vice President:    Gary Carbonneau     893-6957
 Secretary:         Lee Lepore          885-2195 (days)
 Treasurer:         Rick Tuttle         485-5569
 Divemaster:        Bob DesRuisseaux    624-4405 (days)
From: dougj@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Douglas L Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: St.Martin --> Saba?
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:47:38 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <C1DtHs.HoJ@panix.com> pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner) writes:
>
>According to the info in the archives at Ames, Saba has some great
>diving.  I'm going to be in St. Martin next month and am wondering how
>hard it is to get to Saba from there.  Is it possible to do maybe a
>day trip on a boat, do a couple of dives and then come back?  Or is it
>too far for something like that?  Are there dive operators on St.
>Martin who do this kind of thing?
>

	We dove with two different operators in St. Maarten (Philipsberg)
	in Oct 91, but didn't go to Saba - weather & bloom conditions.  I
	believe that both operators can make it a day trip, but you should
	confirm that with them.

			Trade Winds Dive Shop - OK

			Ocean Explorers - Better
			     LeRoy French - Owner

	Enjoyable, though not spectacular, diving.  LeRoy and his wife
	Dominique Noire are quite knowledgable and very pleasant to dive
	with.  We highly recommend the Dawn Beach Resort for accommedations
	and a rental car for exploring both the Dutch and French sides.  A
	great little island for a romantic getaway!

Douglas L. Jones 
Tektronix, Inc.
503-627-1690
dougj@sail.labs.tek.com


Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: marco@netcom.com (Marco Flagg)
Subject: Underwater telephones, reliability?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:53:35 GMT

Several companies offer wireless 'through the water' communication
systems. There is for example the Aquacom from Ocean Technology Systems
and the USC-101 from life technologies.
I wonder how reliable a communication path can be achieved with this
equipment.

Is speech distortion a problem?
is a full mask necessary or are the half masks sufficient?
What range do you really get, how dependent is it on sea-state?
where should the transducer be mounted, is body-shielding a problem?
any problems with communicating in kelp forest, through thermo-clines?
how much better are SSB systems over AM systems?

I know the theoretical answers to these questions, but would be interested
in hearing from anybody who has real-life experience with these units.

thanks,
          marco

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: creemer@cmsi.com (David Creemer)
Subject: Re: WANTED: info on diving in Israel
Organization: Corporate Memory Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: rec.scuba
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:34:22 GMT

Go to the Sinai. It's much easier getting there through Israel, and Egyptian
visas are easy to arrange in Isreal. Diving in Eilat is great (I've been), but
I've been told that Ras Mohammed (I apologize for my spelling) is the best in
the area (it's near the tip of the Sinai). There are flights from Tel-Aviv down
to Eilat and into the Sinai all the time. Renting equipment in Eilat is easy. I
don't personally know about the rest of the Sinai, but I am told that there are
several established dive shops there. Also, watch what you eat in Egypt. It's a
great place, but everyone I met either had, just got over, or was just coming
down with "Pharoh's Revenge." Tip for everything - it's very effective for
making sure you have a good time.

-- David

David Z. Creemer | Corporate Memory Systems, Inc. | creemer@cmsi.com |  %^\
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From: jammer@eskimo.com (Lyle Harwood)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Thanks!
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:31:14 GMT
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


I posted recently regarding my problem with my back and diving,
and was completley inundated with personal letters.

Starting the day after my post, my mailbox was crammed with letters
from fellow divers who sufferd all manner of back problems, and I 
gathered several leads to track down, as well as several promising
tips.

To those of you who responed, my sincere thanks!

I regret that I don't have time to answere each of you personally,
but let me say that after spending a day in the trenches,
(business) under the law of me-bigger-my-meat, 
perhaps the biggest benefit of this exercise was the refreshing spirit
of camaradrie that DOES exist among those of us who dive.

You were strangers, and you took time to write long letters filled with
ernst attempts to help me dive. There was nothing to gain for you,
and you truley stunned me with your overwhelming response.

Please accept this thank you, one and all.

Jammer
From: williams@fdcv14.enet.dec.com (Pat Williams DTN:264-4052)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Sea Rovers Location
Date: 27 Jan 1993 11:43:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In regards to the Boston Sea Rovers Underwater Clinic location, it is
at the Copley Plaza. The Weston was already booked so it's back to the
Copley!

Pat
From: peterson@hpl.hp.com (Chris Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Bad Back
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:33:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, California

I concur with Rick's comments based on my own experience.  I have had 
the classic "chronic low-back pain" for over 20 years, and have been
diving almost all of that time.  I have been lucky (?) enough to avoid
surgery however.

* If it hurts, don't do it.

* Be very careful about carrying gear, especially tanks and weight belts,
  and especially walking in full gear between the dive site and your car
  (beach diving).  
  
	For example, carrying a tank in each hand (balanced)
  	is easier for me than carrying a tank in one hand (unbalanced).
	I carry a single tank with two arms, cradled like a baby, or 
	offset the load with a gear bag.  I carry weight belts around 
	my waist.

* Weight loss, sit-ups, leg stretching, and swimming laps with fins really 
  help me a lot.

I am extremely careful with my dive profiles, since prior injury and scar
tissue seems to be more prone to a bends "hit" than normal healthy tissue...

My physician is a diver himself; I too recommend that you find a physician
very familiar with the stresses that diving can put on your body.

Here's hoping that you can stay off the floor... :-)  (those with bad backs
know what that means...)

-- 
Chris Peterson                      
Research Computing Services                      e-mail: peterson@hpl.hp.com 
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories                           phone: (415) 857-6432
Palo Alto, California USA                                fax: (415) 857-5686
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: lah@Cadence.COM (Lin A. Hendrix)
Subject: Re:  Attention Grabbers
Reply-To: lah@cadence.com
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: w
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:01:21 GMT

If using the Dive Alert, how does one protect one's own hearing 
from being damaged?  I'd hate to have to choose between going deaf
and being found...


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am I glad it's not me!"		--lin 
p.s. my opinions may be my own, they don't belong to Cadence, and 
you can't hold me to them.  don't flame me, I won't listen.
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From: dodd@OES.ORST.EDU (Stirling S. Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Sound Direction Indicators
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:07:13 GMT
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: oes.orst.edu

In article <C16puC.Jz5@news.cs.andrews.edu> maierj@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Joey Maier) writes:
>In article <1jk3eqINNhh6@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> dodd@OES.ORST.EDU (Stirling S. Dodd) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.134636.4345@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jwall@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Wall) writes:
>>>>
>>
>>5 times the separation. I don't have time to calculate the directivty
>>of this dipole reciever with a big obstrction in the way (your head) but,
>>consider this:
>>
>>My ear to ear gap is about 10 inches, or .254 m. So 5 * this is about 1.25 m.
>>I'm 6'4" (~2 m) so if I took an earphone, connected it to a microphone, say
>>near my knee, I might have enough separation to distinguish the direction!
>>
>>I haven't tried this, but it sure seems plausible. 
>
>Karen Pryor, Dolphin Trainer at Sea Life Park, from her 1973 book _Lads
>before the Wind_
>
>Sound travels five times faster in water than in air.  To compensate for
>this, Wayne made a pair of human pinnae out of steel and plastic, five
>times bigger and five times farther apart than our ears on our heads.
>These had hydrophones lowered into them and were lowered into  the water
>while Gregory and his students, inside the Essex, listened through the
>Ears via earphones.  I have heard physicists pish-tush this arrangement,
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>but in truth, Gregory felt that it gave him quite a bit of directional
>hearing, with practice, and he discovered, among other things, that
>sometimes what sounds like one  porpoise whistle to us is actually made
>by two or more animals.............
>
>BTW, that is on page 162 if anyone wants to check my typing skills :)
>

They must be pretty stupid physicists. I for one am a Physicist working
on my PhD with specialty of Linear Acoustics, and particulary SONAR. This
is one of the most trivial types of problems, and admits a very simple solution.
It's nice to know that someone has actually been successful with this.


-- 
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S Dod^2  |   "Do what you do but know why you're doing it"---GBH
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Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: joseph@smos.com (Joseph Crunk)
Subject: scuba instructor needed
Organization: S-MOS, Inc
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:11:26 GMT




[I'm trying to keep this posting local, but...  If this
 post strays outside the SF Bay area, my apologies.]



There is a need for an Open Water instructor to teach scuba
classes (Open Water and Advanced/OW II) in the south bay
area. If there are any under-paid, over-worked instructors
interested please contact me.


-Joseph Crunk
 joseph@smos.com
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:34:12 CST
From: Nasri <U38065@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Padre Island

Some friends and I are planning to go to Padre Island for the spring break, did
anyone of you go there before, and where is the best place to go to ?




Naz


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Newsgroups: rec.scuba,rec.boats
From: enenkel@cs.toronto.edu (Robert Frederick Enenkel)
Subject: Re: From Avon to Zodiac
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:35:41 GMT

spady@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robyn Spady) writes:

>The Seven Seas Crusing Association puts out a publication on cruising 
>equipment . . . The most recent one (available for about $10) identifies Avon
>inflatables as being one of the most highly rated inflatables and ranks the'
>Zodiac as being one of the lowest rated.

Do you remember why?  Also, what is the title of this publication?  Do you
have an address from which it may be ordered?

I would also be interested in hearing about any other "buyer's guide" type
publications for inflatable boats.  Please post if you know of any.

Robert Enenkel
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