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Subject:      RE: EDUCATORS AS INQUIRERS

I'd like to second (or third) the notion that ERL could be used in this fashion
-- I too found the citations new, and ran right out and located a couple.
There are related citations in the adult learning literature under the rubric
of self-directed learning as well.
Cheers
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Dr. Jill Ellsworth
JE01@SWTEXAS
Southwest Texas State University
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From:         Gene Glass <ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      New E-Journal
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        EDPOLYAR: NEW E-JOURNAL FOR EDUCATION POLICY ANALYSIS

      A peer-reviewed on-line electronic journal devoted to the
analysis of education policy has been created. It is operated as a
LISTSERV based at ASUACAD.BITNET. The editor is Gene V Glass of the
College of Education at Arizona State University, U.S. Inquires may
be addressed to him at ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET (Internet form of the
address is ATGVG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU).

     The journal will publish article-length manuscripts on
education policy as they are accepted by the editorial board. The
journal will be known colloquially as EDPOLYAR (for Education
Policy Analysis Archives). A companion list known as EDPOLYAN is
run as an unmoderated discussion forum for education policy
analysis. Published manuscripts will be sent to subscribers at the
time of acceptance and will be archived both as files for
subsequent retrieval and in annual notebooks for retrieval of
entire volumes or for remote keyword searching via LDBASE.

    To subscribe to EDPOLYAR, send an email letter to
LISTSERV@ASUACAD.BITNET and make the sole contents of your letter
read as follows:
                   SUBSCRIBE EDPOLYAR  <your actual name>

     It is anticipated that the first manuscript will appear within
a couple of weeks.

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From:         "Patricia K. Dodd" <pdodd@MWC.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      educators as inquirers
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 I do not know of any such list, but I'd like to be included on
 any discussion regarding teachers as reflective inquirers.  I
 am preparing to research teachers of the gifted using
 qualitative methods that include narrative inquiry for
 my dissertation.  Research will take place over the next
 several months.

 I would like to begin a quality circle next year with staff
 members using reflective practices.  Insights from others and
 the opportunity to discuss these methods with students,
 practitioners, and/or the research community would be wonderful!
 Keep me posted.
 Pat
 Asst. Principal, Stafford Elem. School, Stafford, VA 22554 --



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From:         powellr@NEVADA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Action research
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I was pleased to read through your message regarding action
research.  Just now we are in the final stages of completing
a manuscript on using action ressearch as a means for
fostering teacher leaders and change agents for teachnology
education.  Your message contained some valuable information
which I will draw from.  Thanks again!
Richard Powell
Coll of Educ
UNLV
4505 Maryland Parkway
Las Vegas NV 89154
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From:         "Bob Kessler, Kansas City, Mo." <RKESSLER@VAX2.CSTP.UMKC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EDUCATORS AS INQUIRERS
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Please don't misunderstand.  The issue is teachers time available.  The
committed teachers I work with are not particularly conserned about
funding.  The issues are related to things like going to conferences
and obtaining substitutes, more planning period time during the day,
and time during the summer to work on using and understanding new
technology, i.e., software systems and interaction with reachers on their
use.  Teachers are like others, they have families and need to sustain
an income.  School districts in our area don't normally have the funding
to provide the time.
Bob
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I have given Annette an audiotape on Reforming Education by Larry Cuban.
Feel free to check it out.  It might make your commute more interesting.
On the other hand, it might not.  He is a well respected scholar in
traditional education.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:04:01 -0700
From:         WILLD@BYUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: EDUCATORS AS INQUIRERS

On Jan 5, Bob Kessler noted the following in response to my earlier query
for discussion on educators as inquirers and action research.

>I am very interested in the same subject.  We are trying to increase
>the involvement by local teachers with researchers.  A major problem is
>sources of non-school district funding for teacher time...either during
>the school year or during the summer.  Please keep me informed of your
>activities and sources of information.  I appreciate the references you
>provided  Thanks!

The notion that funds are needed for teacher time raises a question for me.
 If inquiry as teachers is something they do outside of their regular
assignment (and therefore they need to be paid for it), how integrated is
that inquiry likely to be with the rest of their practice?  It seems to me
that much of the literature I have seen on these topics suggests that being
an inquirer and doing action research in ones own classroom or school or
university or other practical setting is more of an attitude and
intellectual stance than it is the raising of funds and setting up of
official research projects.  What have others found?

David D. Williams    Instructional Science Department
201-C MCKB    Brigham Young University    Provo, UT 84602
Voice:  801-378-2765      Fax: 801-378-4017
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From:         "Mark W. F. Condon" <MWCOND01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Action Research

Associate Professor, Literacy Education
PHONE:502 588-0580
A few years ago Diane Kyle and Ric Hovda were guest editors for the Peabody
Journal for two issues which explored action research. By all accounts it is
brimming with solid stuff on action research, teacher inquiry and reflection.

Mark W.F. Condon
Early and Middle Childhood Education
University of Louisville,
Louisville, KY  40292
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From:         gallagherj@SATURN.GLASSBORO.EDU
Subject:      RE: EDUCATORS AS INQUIRERS
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I second Russell Hunt's recommendation to discuss this topic
on this list. We need some new topics to begin the new year and
I need to learn more about current ideas in action research and teachers
as inquirers. I may learn some gems to pass on to my graduate
students who are mostly in-service educators and I may learn something
new to include in my courses as activities of a scholarly nature.
Do others agree?

John V. Gallagher, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
School of Education and Related Professional Studies
Rowan College of New Jersey
Glassboro NJ 08028-1701

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From:         Cyril Kesten <KESTEN@MEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Re: EDUCATORS AS INQUIRERS
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In addition to Jim Reither's starter question re: action research, I'd
like us to discuss:

        a.  How are action research, qualitative and quantitative research
related?
        b.  How can action research be used as a part of a teacher education
program?
        c.  Does action research allow for generalizability and replication?

Cyril Kesten
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From:         stan kulikowski ii <STANKULI@UWF.BITNET>
Subject:      re: educators as inquirers

david williams,

  i am not personally interested in those books as you describe them,
but i know several areas on the networks which might be.

 glitter@brt.deakin.edu.au -- has been inactive for the last couple months,
                     but they were formed to talk about teacher education.

 ednet@nic.umass.edu -- has just formed and has had a lot of intros from
                     all over.  some discussion of teacher education there
                     under the thread 'method courses'.

  dts-l@iubvm.bitnet  -- mostly practicing teachers, but people have
                     complained that it is not very cerebral.

  newedu-l@uscvm.bitnet -- been rather quiet lately but there was once
                     people talking about teacher training there.

  edpolyan@asuacad.bitnet -- but you already know about this one, as you
                     sent a request in there already.

  hope this helps,
                  stan

                         stankuli@UWF.bitnet
     .
    ===     god created time so everything would not happen at once
    | |     god created space so everything would not happen to me
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Subject: action research
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My contact with action research has been very different than Gene's.  Within
special education, I have found calls for action research to embody the spirit
of the bumper sticker:  "Think globally, act locally."  The whole point of it
is for people involved in their local setting (teachers, students,
administrators, parents, whoever) to conduct sytematic inquiries into issues of
immediate relevance to them, and with a commitment to practical "action" to
change for the better.  If curriculum adaptation is an issue for a 3rd grade
teacher who is trying to integrate a student with severe cognitive disabilities
into her classroom, then certainly reflection, reading, discussion with her
peers, and attending conferences are all in order.  But action research would
see the need to continue from there and actually try some adaptations out, see
what works, what are the local barriers to implementing the adaptations, etc.
And who cares about generalization!  All that matters in this context is
developing some local knowledge to solve local problems that the teachers,
students, and others all have vested interests in solving.  Whether that
involves words or numbers, those data are treated very differently within this
kind of action research.  In fact, they are treated interpretively or
reflectively, by the teacher/researcher, in ways that seem to me very close to
Schon's reflective practice.

By the way, as with most of these discussions the key terms get quickly
tortured, and everyone has her or his own favorite gloss on what the words
"mean."  While Lewin is certainly the main name associated with the origins of
the term "action research," there are other traditions that seem relevant.  The 
"participatory research" movement associated with Paulo Freire and others, for
example, shares much of this concern for openly value-based, locally defined,
change oriented inquiry.  And certainly, Freire was concerned with curriculum
in his literacy efforts.  There is a nice, brief summary of these two research
traditions -- comparing and contrasting their basic principles --  in Brown, L.
D., & Tandon, R. (1983).  Ideology and political economy in inquiry:  Action
research and participatory research. "Journal of Applied Behavioral Science"
Vol. 19, 277-294.

Another resource that has gained some popularity within special ed research is
an edited volume by William Foote Whyte titled "Participatory Action Research"
and published by Sage.  It has a chapter by Schon and Argyris, by the way.  The
book isn't specifically on education research, but it might be of interest to
some.

Phil Ferguson
University of Oregon
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From:         "Paul C. Jablon" <PJABLON@BKLYN.BITNET>
Subject:      Discussion on action research

One of the key points about action research is that the researcher can modify
both the design and the treatment as preliminary results begin to arrive. Most
folks in this discussion thus far speak of action research as not having much
"solid basis" to it and hence not much validity or reliability as applicable
to other situations. This does not have to be the case. It is simply that as
practitioners there are constant data that appears many times as gesaalt or
intuition that calls for a change in design or treatment. The methodology
of research can be very demanding and exacting in nature.

Those of us who have utilized this process get a lot of flack from purists
who would accept every other aspect of our research designs.

Comments?
Dr Paul Jablon
Brooklyn College, CUNY
Brooklyn NY 11210
(718) 951 5061
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From:         gallagherj@SATURN.GLASSBORO.EDU
Subject:      Inquiry and Action Research
Comments: cc: GALLAGH@PILOT.NJIN.NET

I second Russell Hunt's recommendation to discuss this topic
on this list. We need some new topics to begin the new year and
I need to learn more about current ideas in action research and
teachers as inquirers. I may learn some gems to pass on to my
graduate students who are mostly in-service educators and I may
learn something new to include in my courses as activities of a
scholarly nature.

Do others agree?

John V. Gallagher, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
School of Education and Related Professional Studies
Rowan College of New Jersey
Glassboro NJ 08028-1701

GALLAGHERJ@saturn.rowan.edu
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From:         "Inkshed (James A. Reither)" <INKSHED@UNB.CA>
Subject:      RE: EDUCATORS AS INQUIRERS

I'll tenth Russ Hunt's idea.  And I'll ask a question: Is one way to
get this discussion going to ask what action research is?  Who does
it?  What kinds of methods are involved?  What is researched?  What
kinds of questions are asked in action research?  What kinds of
results does one look for, and what are the uses of that result?
What are the problems of this kind of research?

Anyone?

Jim Reither
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From:         Gavin Flower <Gavin.Flower@COMP.VUW.AC.NZ>
Subject:      Re: Hey!...Our Internet Link is Up!

Hi Anne,


Happy new year!


I've noticed the new usenet group, about "FREE" subjects.

Before Christmas I tried various combinations of what you told me, to
unsubscribe from the "FREE" mailing list.  Could you please tell me
*exactly* where to send it, what the subject line should contain, and
the contents of body.


Gavin
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Subject:      Re: Anybody out there....?
              05 Jan 93 10:19:15 -0800. <199301060059.AA00739@draco.acs.uci.edu>

The list was very quiet over Christmas break, and just started getting
some traffic again this week (mostly messages about whether the list
is still active).


Mike
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:18:41 -0500
From:         David Garrod <garrod@ECN.PURDUE.EDU>

Wishing everyone on the system a most successful 1993.

A quote from Calvin Coolidge.....
"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men
with talent.  Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a
proverb.  Education will not; the world is full of educated
derelicts.  Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent."

So hang in there fight for your rights.

Looks like I might have been missed, while I was on vacation,
judging by the lack of traffic and comments!

We can change things.
We will change things.

David Garrod.
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From:         Mark Charalambous <mc@VICORP.COM>
Subject:      Court investigator advice needed

I'm looking for advice on how to handle Court appointed investigators
in my divorce/custody case. The appointment of a Guardin ad-Litum
has been ordered by the judge and I would like to be well-prepared.

What is the most effective method of getting a recommendation in your
favor? Are there any books or publications that are recommended?

Thanks,
Mark Charalambous
mc@vicorp.com
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From:         J.FRANK@ACAD.SUFFOLK.EDU

One of the members of our Boston single fathers group has just
been told that his ex intends to marry and take his three kids
to Cape Bretton in Canada.  Does anyone out there have any
experience fighting international custody disputes, or can they
recommend lawyers with experience.  Thanks, Jonathan Frank
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From:         David Garrod <garrod@ECN.PURDUE.EDU>

Subject: Taking kids to Canada

     I wish to negate comments saying it is difficult to take one`s
kids out of the country into Canada, without permission of the other
parent.
     Shortly after my divorce...during the testing period...my ex
refused to give me my son`s passport, during an extended visitation
period.  With court dates always taking a couple of months, I had
no option available for taking her back to court to obtain the passport.
I have taken my son, without a passport, not only to Canada, but also
to England.  The only time I ran into difficulty was trying to get
back into the U.S.!
     After that I told her that if she did not provide the passport as
and when requested she could pick my son up in England at the end of
my visitation period.  I have had no problem with passports since then
and have taken my son to Europe half a dozen times as well as to
S. America and countries nearer the U.S.

David Garrod
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Subject:      Re: taking kids to Canada


    Two years ago when I took my daughter ( 10 yrs old)  ) to Victoria, B.C.
the border immigration people at Canada asked her enough questions to ensure
she   ** and her mother **  knew what was going on and that everyone concerned
approved.  I believe if they had ANY reservations (a letter or phone call ?)
concerning the visit we would have been sent back ASAP.
                                                         Steve Carlson
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Thanks Dale.
A question or two:

> A few notes....You will most likely take the MMPI.  Don't
> try and cheat.  It has a built in lie detector.  (Nobody

What's the MMPI?

> Then I wrote the a report for the social worker.  It had
> how the parents differed and why I am the better parent.

So you wrote something up that gave to the GAL after the investigation
was complete? It was accepted graciously? Did you recognize anything in
their report that indicated they had paid attention to what you wrote?

BTW, if you don't mind me asking, what was the outcome in your case?

---Mark
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Date: 5 Jan 93 16:29:06 GMT
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[] Regarding Anybody out there....?;
[] Byron=Bollas%HQ%Rational@VINES1.RATSYS.COM writes:

byron> I haven't received anything from the list in 2-3 days. [...]

Haven't seen any traffic for some time now ...
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I've sent some replys but have not seen any traffic.  Looks
like something went down at pucc - I wonder who is running
the center now...
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