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From: grant@delvalle.llnl.gov (Chuck Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
Subject: Playing darts over the net.
Summary: Why not?
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:54:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Systems Research Group

Anyone here ever played darts over the net?

I mean, everybody here has a board on the wall in their office right 
next to their Unix workstation with internet access, right? :-) Or
an internet connected machine at home next to the dart board, right?

Just run the Unix "talk" program (or whatever else you have on your
system that does the same thing) and type in what you hit after each
throw.  (I understand that Sun workstations do not implement the talk
protocol properly and can not connect with other Unix workstations, other
that this, I think that talk is fairly iniversal for Unix.)

A certain amount of trust is involved in reporting your score, but hey, 
all the dart players I know are honest, honorable sorts, or I wouldn't
play with them.

I'll have to bring my office board back in and try it. I took my office 
board home a while back when we were having a big safety inspection.

I suggest that people that want to try to play over the net and can run
"talk" over the internet, post their addresses and a schedule of when they
might be available to play.  Games can then be set up via e-mail or talk.

Chuck
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: Do you group in the dark?
Organization: the vms company
Distribution: usa
Date: 11 NOV 92 17:27:18 EST


re: (Christopher Somers) .......
>	One of the ways I practice is similar to what you mention above.
>	Basically, I work my way around the board, throwing a set of
>	darts at each number.  I try to be ACCURATE (ie - hit what I 
>	intended to hit) with the FIRST dart. Even if I do miss my intended
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	target, however, I then try to be CONSISTANT with the last two
        ^^^^^^           ^^^^^^^^^^                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	darts, and I throw them to attain a good grouping.  This helps
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	to develop a repeatable throwing motion.  I've found my grouping
>	has greatly improved, and once my accuracy gets better, I just
>	might be dangerous ;-)  
>	For myself, I define good grouping as all the flights touching 
>	(or within range to touch).

	Yes, but you don't mention that you do this in the dark...do you?
	And what good does it do if the first dart is a miss and then you
	throw the last 2 at the first dart? This is what every darter does
	at some time or other to cover up that he missed the first dart. :-0
	All this means is that you can throw 2 of 3 at what you want.

	My objective is to be able to group well no matter what you aim at.
	And without even knowing where the first shot *really* went, if you
	can *blindly* shoot and group all 3 darts, well then, this I think
	is a sign of consistency. And moreover, if they in fact would have
	hit roughly what you were aiming at, then the form or technique is
	reasonably good too. That was what my original message was all about. 
	Somehow I think you missed these points.

	So, I shouldn't feel so good about missing a 1st dart and then 
	shooting the 2nd and 3rd at the 1st. I would concentrate on shooting 
	at 1 object and be happy just to see that all 3 went to the left 
	and/or high, but were in a very tight 1-2" group. After that, I would 
	work on converging my groups to the intended target...like the bull 
	or trip 20 or 19. That's how I would practice. In fact, that's how I
	do practice. :-)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Subject: Re: lurker has question...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:59:32 GMT

aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I used to read r.s.d quite regularly but unfortunately it seemed
>to die out...it's been a few months since I "dropped" in and lo
>and behold! Postings!...being an avid dart fan I've spent a
>considerable amount of time ( and alas _money_) on the
>sport of darts.  One item (which I'm hoping someone here
>may be familiar with) which I haven't been able to find
>is a dart score keeper that has three rotary dials on it
>similiar to the dials on a rotary phone.  When I was
>in the Navy (where beer and darts was a staple of
>life ;-) ), the clubs always had this type of scorekeeping
>system for 301 which made it ALOT easier to keep score
>when the quantity of alcohol started to outweigh the
>number of darts thrown.  
>
>Does anyone know where I might get one of these? And if
>so, what price range are we talking about?  I'd hate to
>find out these suckers cost an arm and a leg.  I'd even
>favor buying a used one if someone is willing to part with
>it..
	You could probably make one really easily from old phones,
	or even used toy phones. just pull of the dials, and stick
	them on a block of wood. Might be larger than the ones
	you've seen, but they'll be easier to read when you're
	in your cups, and it can even be construed as recycling.

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Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
Subject: Re: rec.sport.darts
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:07:05 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel

In article <1992Nov4.075946.28703@ray.fi> tl@ray.fi (TonyK Lindstr"om) writes:
>How about a proposal?
>
>The rec-groups have after all a larger circulation.

You'd have a hard time convincing me that darts is a "sport"; however,
I'd be real interested in hearing opinions on whether darts is a sport
or a game.

IMHO, rec.games.darts would be better.  I think you have to equate
darts along with other tavern/bar games such as pool, pinball,
foosball, air hockey, etc.
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: Splash (?) vs Diddle.
Organization: the vms company
Distribution: na
Date: 11 NOV 92 17:12:12 EST


re: (G G ZIPFEL) ........
>	Ok, a couple of questions from a novice thrower.
>	First, What is splash (as a method of determining who throws 
>	first...)
>	Second, when you diddle, do both throwers throw at once?
>	Is there a counter who counts to three or something...

	"Splash" is usually used to determine partners for team games.
	It typically involves the throwing of 2 darts together/concurrently/at 
	the same time from the same hand. Both darts should score on the board
	and the total points recorded and the darts retrieved. Then the next 
	person does likewise. Prior agreement would be that the 2 high scorers
	should be 1 team versus the 2 lower scorers. Or otherwise, the highest
	and lowest scorers will be 1 team versus the 2 middle scoring persons.
	The rationale for throwing 2 darts is that there is more of a luck
	or chance factor rather than skill that determines which people will
	be partners. Randomness if you will. Otherwise, the 2 better shooters
	might frequently be paired and dominate a board if just a bull shoot
	were used to determine who plays together. 

	"Diddle" is typically used to determine who or which team will start
	a game. 1 person from each side/team will throw for the bull. There 
	is no requirement that both people shoot concurrently. As a matter
	of practicality, most challengers will shoot for the cork first
	although I guess it could be reigning winner's choice if he/she
	chose to go first.

	On another note, in non-partner games, especially those games where
	more than 2 people are playing, and especially where money is
	concerned and going earlier is preferred over being last, it is
	common that the cork shoot (closest to the cork) in descending order,
	is used as a means of determining who will shoot in which sequence.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: tl@ray.fi (TonyK Lindstr"om)
Subject: Re: rec.sport.darts
Keywords: n
Organization: Finnish Darts Organization
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:37:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.180705.19569@SSD.intel.com> rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal) writes:

>IMHO, rec.games.darts would be better.  I think you have to equate
>darts along with other tavern/bar games such as pool, pinball,
>foosball, air hockey, etc.

Gngngngngnnn.. Hmm, maybe you are right, though there are differences
between games and games. In darts skill is everything, in pinball as
one example there are other factors, too. 

How about rec.serious.games.darts   :-)

Is snooker a game?


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From: patrickd@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: U.S.
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:36:58 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
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Summary: All England or Australia!
Keywords: USA

Is there anyone out there from the U.S.?  I feel alone.  Most of the recent
posts have been from outside North America!

Anyone (in the U.S.) know where I can get some additional Lazer Tag guns and
sensors?  Color doesn't matter.  It's just I have 3 guns and need 3 more!
(same with sensors)  Rifles are ok...
 
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From: ollis@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Ollis)
Subject: Laserzone!
Reply-To: ollis@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Ollis)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 22:06:23 GMT


It's been almost 4 years since our local Photon variant went belly up, and I 
was starting to get longings for Paintball... this was until last week.  I 
saw an advert for a thing called Laserzone in one of the local rags.. 

It was certainly a welcome relief though very different than what I used to 
play.  Apparently it is an Australian company that has been franchising in the
UK and has 70 games there... this is the first one in Sydney.  

Each player has a `body suit' that looks kind of like a BMX suit (plastic vest
with multiple vents) and has a sensor on the front and back.  There was no 
helmet though, something that I enjoyed in the Laserdome game. The gun is what
interested me most. The guns use visible lasers, and are a two handed affair.
They seem to have been modelled after the Israeli Uzi assault weapon. You are 
given 4 lives, allowing 20 shots each life.. After you have lost all your lives
you have to go back to a recharge station where you receive 4 more lives.. 
The recharge booth is where the scores are uploaded to the main computer for 
printout at the end of the game... A cute little feature is that the gun
`talks'
to you, telling you if you made a hit on another player, when you're out of 
lives and when the game is over... 

They have the facility for 2 teams of 20 people (but only have 13 /side at the
moment due to lack of packs).  

Overall, I liked it.. The playing area is a bit cramped, and little area to 
relax after the game but you're within 1 minute of the Golden Arches so it's
not
a major problem.  If you're interested in the game, send me mail and I'll
forward on the details to you ..

DISCLAIMER: I have no financial relationship with Laserzone (other than I pay
            them money to play!).  I'm just a happy customer..

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From: stj@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Grimthorpe)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Re: Laserzone!ex
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:55:43 GMT

In <1992Nov9.182805.1177@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc2rjg@dct.ac.uk writes:

>In article <1992Nov1.220623.15767@funlwb.enet.dec.com>, ollis@redbck.stl.dec.com (Stephen Ollis) writes:
>> 
>> It's been almost 4 years since our local Photon variant went belly up, and I 
>> was starting to get longings for Paintball... this was until last week.  I 
>> saw an advert for a thing called Laserzone in one of the local rags.. 
>> 
>it is the australian version of photon and laserquest is the british version of

>quasar, clear ??? ( if not, mail me !)

Not quite. Quasar & LaserQuest exist separately in the UK.
As far as I know, LaserQuest is said to be better than Quasar, but the
latest equipment out so far means that you can play exactly the same games
(ie bases, limited lives, limited shots), but the basic games are different.

Adrian StJohn, local Mudder's LaserQuest champion
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From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleenus Schwartz Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Re: Laserzone  (Fairly long..)
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:49:53 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Nov12.150411.1318@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc2msd@dct.ac.uk writes:
>	Hmmm... I'm afraid I missed this article, but it sounds fairly
>	interesting. Don't suppose someone could re-post it or send
>	me a copy????

Well, we could *each* send you one, and you'd get, say, five copies?

;-)

By the way, someone mentioned Survivor Shots available at Kmart for
$16.97 near Purdue, and I was able to find them here too, so it's at
least a statewide thing -- check your local Kmart!  I have 4 Survivor
Shot sets now, which complement my Lasertag sets quite well. . .and it
makes for some great tension-relief before exams. . .

-sz
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From: s922733@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Warwick K Chai)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag,aus.general
Subject: Re: Laserzone!
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:26:59 GMT
Followup-To: alt.sport.lasertag
Distribution: cs

LaserTag Games exist in quicte a few places now.
 
Oakleigh   - SideTracked Entertainment (Very Good)
Bundoore/Preston - LaserForce (Blerrgghhhh)
Sunshine - Zone 3 (Affiliated (by franchise) with Zone 3 in Oakleigh)
Sth yarra - Zone 3

All of the above are currently running and available..

Warwick

Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag,aus,general
From: thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie)
Subject: Re: Laserzone  (Fairly long..)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:57:39 GMT


	Nice article but the bit about the diameter of the laser beams is
arbitrary. Hits are registered by an infra-red beam which, depending on the
distance you shoot from, is 5-10cm wide.
	I played my first game yesterday evening, and was quite impressed
by it all, though we had the unfortunate experience of having complete
ARSEHOLES for the opposition who were more intent on using the Laserzone
stickers to cover thier sensors than just playing the game and enjoying
it. We beat 'em anyway. The scorecards are a nice touch.

			Thomas the Tank Engine
			aka Algor

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From: mcsdc2rjg@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: quasar game types
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:51:14 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology



 Hello, it's me again with more insights into zapp zone, laser zone, quasar

  or whatever you want to call it.

  in a previous article a game, battle ground was mentioned and also 

   that it involved "gun emplacements", this is untrue, what actually happens 

  is that it is a game of energise 4 with a few packs wired to explode...

  this happens randomly and kills all and sundry around the pack, friend 
 
  foe alike ... it is recorded as bomb hits on the score sheet you might 

  get a bomb hit, this is just a system malfunction....

  the other games available are stun, both solo and team, this is basically

  energise 4 with infinite lives and shots.

  supercharger, a fun game probably... at least i have heard it is...

  in this if you shoot i think 5 people without getting shot you become

 "supercharged"

  and can shoot the base, while supercharged, your gun also spits out 3 shots

  for every pull of the trigger, of course when you get shot then you're back

  to normal but it could be fun....

  

  sites,  in Northern Ireland there are lots of site, all quite close to each 

  other, 1 quasar and 2 laserquest in belfast, 1 quasar in coleraine and 1 in

  ballymena... so there you go in the u.k. most cities i think have at least 

  one zone... i know for certain there are some in london, manchester,

 edinburgh, glasgow, dundee and elsewhere 

 well if you want info. please mail me you kno the address
From: mcsbc2msd@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: Re: Laserzone  (Fairly long..)
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:04:11 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov10.205739.24864@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie) writes:
> 
> 	Nice article but the bit about the diameter of the laser beams is
> arbitrary. Hits are registered by an infra-red beam which, depending on the
> distance you shoot from, is 5-10cm wide.

	Hmmm... I'm afraid I missed this article, but it sounds fairly
	interesting. Don't suppose someone could re-post it or send
	me a copy????

		Thanx

			Mike D
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From: Mike  <M_WRIGHT@icrf.icnet.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
Subject: Re: Bungee in France
Date: 13 Nov 1992 11:06:49 GMT
Organization: Imperial Cancer Research Fund
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In article <1992Nov10.105603.4015@dxcern.cern.ch> Serge Lamouret,
lamouret@dxcern.cern.ch writes:
>
>Does anyone know if Bungee jumping is legal in France, and if so,
>if there is a club near Geneva?
>
>
>Sergio

I did a bungy jump in Normandy a couple of months ago, so it must be legal.
The place was :

A.J. Hackett Bungy
VIADUC DE LA SOULEUVRE
14350 LA FERRIERE-HARANG
NORMANDIE
FRANCE                                         PHONE 31.67.37.38   FAX
31.67.79.57

Not too close to Geneva, but worth a look if you are up that way.

The jumping platform is about 200 ft high, with a reassuring puddle of water
at the bottom. This seems to be more for smart-arse jumpers to get dipped in
rather than as an aternative to having a rubber band tied to your feet.  

I think bungy jumping may have been banned in France at one stage after a
few people got killed doing it. Maybe someone could comment on this. 


Mike

If you like Bungy jumping, try skydiving - Bungy jumping from 12,000 feet.
:-))
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: jkennard@scott.skidmore.edu (james kennard)
Subject: Re: postmodern bungee
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:09:59 GMT

bcoulson@cs1.uct.ac.za (B C Coulson) writes:
> No way man!!
> 
> Bungee is here to stay!!
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Brendan Coulson	(bcoulson@cs1.uct.ac.za / bcouls@gold.uct.ac.za)
> Geology Dept.
> University of Cape Town
> South Africa
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test. please work.




Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: lamouret@dxcern.cern.ch (Serge Lamouret)
Subject: Bungee in France
Keywords: bungee, france
Reply-To: lamouret@dxcern.cern.ch (Serge Lamouret)
Organization: CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, Geneva
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:56:03 GMT


Does anyone know if Bungee jumping is legal in France, and if so,
if there is a club near Geneva?


Sergio
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: sopx2190@mach1.wlu.ca (Anton Sop u)
Subject: Re: re.Bungee Employees
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:09:38 GMT


  I worked for a London, Ont. based firm called Extreme Bungee.  The owner's
name was (is) Scott Smith -- the same guy who owns Student Travel in London.  
Slick character... have you or anyone else here done business with him? 

  ..and how about the weather this summer?  With so many new bungee operations
starting up this year, the rain and cold came at a pretty bad time.  Bungee 
didn't really have a chance to catch on here the way it might have.

                                          Anton

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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: helen@alex.com (Helen)
Subject: France
Organization: Alex Technologies Ltd
Apparently-To: mail2news@news.demon.co.uk
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:32:28 +0000

Apparently, France is the only European country where bungee jumping is actually
legal, hence the number of holidays from the UK that offer this.

However for anybody reading this in England, if you go to just outside Chawton in
Hampshire you can  jump from there.
Happy landings.

Helen O'Hanlon                Alex Technologies
Helen@ alex.com               CP House   
                              97-107 Uxbridge Road
                              London  W5 5TL
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: bcoulson@cs1.uct.ac.za (B C Coulson)
Subject: Re: postmodern bungee
Keywords: bungee
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:18:13 GMT

No way man!!

Bungee is here to stay!!

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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: Shawn
Subject: re.Bungee Employees
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:11:52 GMT

I owned and operated a company north of Ottawa and have written standards
with the Ontario gov't to which all companies operating in Ontario will have to
follow. I'm not sure what info you wanted to know. Where did you work. 

Shawn.
From: ron.ingelevics@canrem.com (ron ingelevics)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
Subject: postmodern bungee
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:16:42 GMT
Reply-To: "ron ingelevics" <ron.ingelevics@canrem.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Yeah but then you might say it's the "declensions" of the adrenaline
rush which make it postmodern.

Saying that bungee is just another adrenaline rush and therefore could
not be postmodern is like saying that "to be" is just another verb and
therefore could not possibly be English.
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