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From: aqw@cs.bham.ac.uk (Andy Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: monitors....
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:25:13 GMT
Organization: The Istari Council

In article <paul.726358501@suite.sw.oz.au>, paul@suite.sw.oz.au (Paul Antoine) writes:
|> In <1993Jan6.170750@cs.bham.ac.uk> aqw@cs.bham.ac.uk (Andy Williams) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <C0CtL7.nF@calvin.demon.co.uk> barrie@calvin.demon.co.uk
|> > (Barrie Spence) writes:
|> >>I find that with our new 16" and 19" mono screens that either the
|> >>centre or the edge of the screen is in focus, but not both. They are
|> >>really pretty naff. I haven't seen your 'popping' tho'.
|> 
|> >We also received some new 16" colour screens from Sun which all
|> >feature a focus problem (as above), have a convergence problem, and
|> >also exhibit quite strong pin-cushioning effects.
|> >According to Sun we should expect this on these type of monitors, (the
|> >expensive Sony Trinitron types). This is utter rot as I have seen
|> >crystal clear displays on clones with similar montiors. I have a
|> >feeling that they are trying to fob us off with a bad batch of
|> >monitors.
|> 
|> Nahhh, they're just poorly set up.  Any decent TV/VIDEO technician can
|> tweak them until they're beautiful.  Trinitron monitors are a little
|> finicky, but well worth the effort.  Sun is trying to avoid a service
|> call methinx...
|> 
|> Paul

Nope, this statement was made after a service call was made by Sun,
one of the monitors in question being replaced by a refurbished one
which has better focus but worse convergence. The call was closed with
the above statement.

Andy.
From: bruce@maypo.ai.mit.edu (Bruce Walton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SS1 - boot from 2nd SCSI ctrl?
Summary: prom can't see disks on 2nd scsi controller
Keywords: scsi controller FSBE prom
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:05:42 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: maypo.ai.mit.edu

Does anyone know how (or if) this is done?

I'd like to boot a SS1 from a disk attached to the 2nd scsi
controller, an FSBE Sbus card in slot #1.  Looks like the PROM won't
recognize any of the disks beyond the system board controller.

Does anyone know if there's a PROM-upgrade available, or if there is
some other trick to make this work?

thanks,			-bruce.

Bruce Walton	bruce@ai.mit.edu	MIT artificial intelligence lab
		617-253-9667		545 tech sq. cambridge, MA 02139
From: vv1@eng.cam.ac.uk (V. Valtchev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: HELP: Connecting SUN4 (IPX) monitor to a mac
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:08:44 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University Engineering Department, UK

Hi everybody,

I was wondering whether it is possible to use a 16" colour monitor from
Sparc Station 2/IPX on a Mac with 8-bit video card. Is it a matter of 
just getting the right cable or is it more complicated (I can see the
Mac/Sun connectors are quite different). Any help with technical details 
will be greatly greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Valtcho

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From: karl@ttank.ttank.com (Karl Bunch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Console/Keyboard Extenders
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:22:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Think Tank Software, Norwalk, CA

I'm looking to put my Keyboard and Console about 30 feet from a Sun
SparcStation 10.  Are there any products available to do this?  And if so
what experiances have you had with them.

Please email me, I'll summarize if there's enough interest.

Thanks in Advance,
Karl
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: dfc@resumix.portal.com (Dan Currie)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: non-optical mouse availability
Reply-To: dfc@resumix.portal.com
Organization: Resumix Inc., Santa Clara CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 22:20:30 GMT


Has anyone heard of a mouse for the Sun similar to the Thumbelina mouse made
for PCs by Appoint? It is sort of a miniature trackball that is useful in
doing presentations. I would really like to be able to use it on a Sun
if anyone knows of one or maybe a driver lurking somewhere to make it work...

Thanks for any info,

	Dan
From: jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SparcClassic(424MB disk)+TeX+Mathematica workable ?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 23:17:47 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu

Is it reasonable to try to run TeX (with a previewer) and Mathematica on a
SparcClassic with a 424 MB hard disk?  How much room will be left over for
my files?

David Jaffe (jaffe@hoss.unl.edu)
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de (Michael Wollborn)
Subject: Re: Adding RAM to SS10?
Reply-To: wollborn@tnt.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:59:11 GMT

In article 724906464@gerry, chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au (Christopher Fraser) writes:
>obi@finnbogi.ocs.com (Obi Thomas) writes:
>>Yes, just buy one SIMM. But the SIMMs are the new DSIMM packs, which are
>>larger than the ones used in, say, a SPARCstation 1+. You must also
>>populate the slots in a particular order. The order is documented in the
>>little booklet which comes with the DSIMM (at least, the Sun labeled
>>DSIMMs).
>
>We found that the order listed in the DSIMM manual was in fact incorrect. Has
>anyone else come across this? (They're buggers to plug in too, the manual
>should read hard rather than firm :-)
>
>It's worth noting too that third party supplies of DSIMMs are available and
>cost about 1/2 to 1/3 of the Sun list price.
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Christopher Fraser      "First time surrealists are often confused by the
>chrisf@nms.otca.oz.au    similarities between fish and telephones"


Don't know if we are talking about the same problem. I have put many
16 MB SIMMs into Sparc10-20 (should not be different to 10-30 in
plugging in memory) and different third party suppliers gave the
instruction to put the SIMMs anywhere you want to (of course in one
of the slots ;-). So what is the problem ? I have done this and all
machines are working fine...

Michael


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Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:14:45 EST
From: <COOCHE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: request for benchmark info

Greetings all...

I am in the process of trying to choose between a variety of UNIX-based
platforms in the 20-30K price range, and am seeking some information from
current users to help me guage relative performace capabilities of
different platforms. We will primarily use the machine for heavy analyses
using SAS, and so I'm particularly interested in how it performs on both
the Sparc 2 and the new Sparc 10 (30 & 41) models. I have a short bit
of SAS code which has circulated for a couple of years on SAS-L which I'd
happily send to someone with SAS on his/her system, if they'd agree to run
the bench and send me the results.

Please note me if you'd be willing (the code is small, and quick, but will
help me make some informed decisions).

Thanks in advance...


Evan Cooch
Department of Biology
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario
Internet: COOCHE@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA
From: jpd@discovery.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: PostScript Printers with 8.5"x 11" AND 11"x 17".
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:59:54 GMT
Reply-To: jpd@discovery.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.cl.msu.edu

Has anyone had any experience using a PostScript printer that can do both sizes mentioned
above on Sparc.   I have a client whom wants me to investigate this.

One alternative may be to use NewSprint instead of getting a PostScript printer, but I still 
need both sizes, any experiences.

How about prices, vender suggestions.   I've set up HP Laserjets, Apple laserwriters, and
Sparcprinters, but none of these could do 11" X 17".
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From: wbe@bbn.com (Winston Edmond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: LX/LC running Solaris 1.x
Date: 10 Jan 93 00:51:05 GMT
	<root.726094662@maui>
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc., Cambridge, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: crystal.bbn.com
In-reply-to: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com's message of Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:57:42 GMT

steele@icd.teradyne.com (Alan Steele) said:
>If what has been said here is true, then SunExpert magazine is probably
>only going to add to the confusion with their article on the classic/LX
>in the Dec. 1992 issue.  On p. 6, they say:

>"Rumor has it that the machine *will* run with Solaris 1.x, but very
>slowly at best."


kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb) replied:
   *sigh*  Once again, Per *has actually tried this*.  SPARCclassics will
   *NOT* run Solaris 1.x.

Winston Edmond replies (with a smile):
Not so fast!  If "very slowly at best" includes VERY, VERY slowly, they might
be right.  "All" that's needed is a sun4c (or sun4m) emulator in software
that will run on the LX.  If it accurately simulates enough of the hardware,
it COULD run any SunOS or application program that ran on a real sun4c --
very, very slowly.  :-)
 -WBE

P.S.  Anyone think a factor of 1:1000 is unattainable?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: Gerold.Herrmann@bbs.gold.sub.org (Gerold Herrmann)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 23:10:16 GMT
Organization: Unix Mailbox Baldham
Subject: Pin-Assignment of CG-Three card (13-W-3)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Gerold.Herrmann@bbs.gold.sub.org (Gerold Herrmann)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10b S/N 165921

Hello ....
 
I'm searching for the Pin-Assignment of the CG-Three Frame-Buffer Card for
the Sun.
I've called SUN directly, they only send me a fax, what signals are on what
pins.
but there are some 'decoding'-pins there, that should identify the type of
monitor (and something more ...)...
if anybody knows the exact assignments of these pins, please send a mail to
me describing them .....
by the way : what frequencies are used by the CG-Three card ?? can i use a
normal Multisynx-Monitor with 75 Hz for example ???
 
  thanks in forward ....
 

 -Gerold Herrmann- on gold.sub.org

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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: How do we boot our new SS10?
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:26:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

While I'm waiting for our sun salesperson, I thought I'd ask the
world:

We have Sun 3's and Sun 4's running 4.1.1. We have 4.1.2 on CD-rom,
uninstalled. We just received a Sparcstation 10/20 which supposedly
has 4.1.3 on the hard disk. 
  It won't boot. Running jumpstart makes it look for host yp maps and
I think other 4.1.3 systems, then ask for the CD-ROM which we do not
own. The docs cover Jumpstart and refer to Solaris manuals which we do
not own.
  The old boot syntax no longer works.
Could someone please tell us how to boot this puppy or do we have the
wrong thing? Please email and I'll summarize.
thanks, Betsy

PS we don't have software support either. Starving non-profit public
institution.
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From: hugh@cs.toronto.edu ("D. Hugh Redelmeier")
Subject: SPARCclassic monitor substitution?
Keywords: SPARCclassic monitor
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:23:45 GMT


I'm thinking about buying a SPARCclassic.  The price for Sun
monitors seems quite high, especially compared with PC monitors.
Although the 1024x768 pixel 15" monitor appears cheap, I can't
imagine moving down from regular Sun resolution.

1) Is there a reasonable way to hook the mono monitor from my Sun
   3/60 to the SPARCclassic?  Using the 3/60 as an Xterm doesn't
   count :-)

2) Is there a reasonable way to hook up a good PC multifrequency
   monitor?

3) Is there a good third party source for Sun monitors?

Thanks.  I'll summarize the replies I get.

Hugh Redelmeier
hugh@mimosa.com or {utcsri, yunexus, utzoo, scocan}!redvax!hugh
When all else fails: hugh@csri.toronto.edu
+1 416 482-8253
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:6660 alt.folklore.computers:18640
From: phjj@ruchem.ru.ac.za
Subject: Classic FAQ
Reply-To: phjj@ruchem.ru.ac.za
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, SA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:36:31 GMT

We are about to launch ourselves into SUN world, probably by buying
a SparkClassic.  Vendors down this part of the world are not great
on supplying useful info (before or after purchase), so please
mail me relevant goodies, or point me at faq lists.  I would like to
know about bugs (hardware and software), SunOS/Solaris incompatibilities,
installation tips, etc.
Our configuration would probably be:
SparkClassic
19 inch monitor
24 MB memory
200 MB internal disk
1.3 GB scsi disk
cd-rom drive

I have always been a VAX/VMS person in the past, this will be my first Unix
box. We will want to hook up to thin ethernet.  All the existing Sun's on campus
run SunOS.

Thanks
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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: How do we boot our new SS10?
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:28:15 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <BETSYS.93Jan7152657@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
<While I'm waiting for our sun salesperson, I thought I'd ask the
<world:
<
<We have Sun 3's and Sun 4's running 4.1.1. We have 4.1.2 on CD-rom,
<uninstalled. We just received a Sparcstation 10/20 which supposedly
<has 4.1.3 on the hard disk. 
<  It won't boot. Running jumpstart makes it look for host yp maps and
<I think other 4.1.3 systems, then ask for the CD-ROM which we do not
<own. The docs cover Jumpstart and refer to Solaris manuals which we do
<not own.
<  The old boot syntax no longer works.
<Could someone please tell us how to boot this puppy or do we have the
<wrong thing? Please email and I'll summarize.
<thanks, Betsy

I just check our new SS10 Model 20.  I turned it on for the first time a little
bit ago and it thunk for a little bit and then booted up 4.1.3.

<PS we don't have software support either. Starving non-profit public
<institution.

Actually you do have support.  You can call within the 90 day warranty period.
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From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: Old Sun question - HELP!!!!!
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:47:10 GMT

guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>>(in fact, SunOS 3.5 didn't swap the kernel
>Neither does SunOS 4.x....

By "swap", do you mean any sort of paging of the kernel itself?  If so,
this is good to hear - it means that I'm not stupid.

Early last year I went to a developers conference to find out how
SCSA drivers had changed for Solaris 2.x.  During one of the sessions
the speaker from Sun had said that loadable drivers could be swapped out.
I was worried about interrupt latency so I asked if there was a way
to pin the driver into memory.  I think the answer was that they would
not get swapped out if they were in use (god I hope, don't want to
swap out the disk driver...).  So then I said, "Oh, so the kernel is
pageable now."  The speaker from Sun said, "Yes, it always has, at least
ever since 4.0."  This suprised the hell out of me because I had never
heard that the kernel was paged in 4.x (the only UNIX I knew of at the
time with a pageable kernel was AIX 3.1), but everone started looking at me
like I was some kind of idiot.  Apparently I was the only one who didn't
know the kernel was paged.  I figured if I was the only one in a room
of 150 who thought the kernel was pinned in memory, I must be wrong.


-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sgi
From: pbg@cs.brown.edu (Peter Galvin)
Subject: Re: Is it Sunset yet?!?!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Brown University
	<1993Jan8.081350.3453@ica.philips.nl> <ul1cmb4@zuni.esd.sgi.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:27:22 GMT

Of course, the Indigo has a much better I/O system than a Sparc 2.  It
would be interesting to see how an SS10 does in this series of tests.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: gulik@rtsg.mot.com (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Sun-3/60 CG4 with 5 connector color monitor?
Organization: Motorola, Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:00:49 GMT


I have a Sun-3/60 with a CG4 color framebuffer.

I also have a monitor that has seperate connectors for
horizontal and vertical sync.

Is there any way to make them work together?

-greg

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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Why is Sun abandoning SunOS4.1.3?
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:25:58 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>>port their apps but WHY can't I run my old apps on new, faster hardware?

>	Why can't you?  As long as you're dynamically linked, your 
>	old apps will run.

Almost no third-party vendors that I've seen deliver a dynamically-linked
binary.  Gnumacs insists on being statically linked, too.  What about when
those "old apps" need to find some file along a certain path, with a certain
format, or rely on the output format of something like "df".

>	Sometimes to get further advances in software,
>	you take a hit.

SysV gave us a decent cron system.  I've yet to see anything else in it that
counts as an advance, and a great many things that are steps backward.

>	A unified Unix.  Something that the Unix market never, never
>	had

And never will.

>	with $BILL Gates.  This splintering causes confusion

And having to significantly modify the vendor's OS to have a decent environment
doesn't?

>	1.)  Lest you forget, pick up the Wall Street Journal and look
>	under the NASDAQ listings.

What does the parasitical abstraction known as "stock" have to do with anything?

>	HP gives you several OS's, all incompatible with each other.

Huh?  There's HPUX, and the MPE stuff which I don't think ever had much of a
market share anyway.

>  Will your VAX/VMS apps run without porting (or re-compiling) on an Alpha
>	running (ha!) OpenVMS?

Would I want to run either in the first place?

>  I wonder if my future HDTV set will improve
>	the b&w HoneyMooners reruns?

It probably will, broadcasters willing.  They were probably shot on film,
and would benefit from a new transfer.

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From: jdc@coral.uucp (James D. Corder)
Subject: What is the bandwidth of an ISDN connection?
Organization: Coral Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:15:10 GMT


Hello NetPeople:-)

	What is the bandwidth of an ISDN connection?

	In other words:  Is ISDN closer to a 56K line or a T1?
		From a person who knows nothing about ISDN:-(

Thank you,
James D. Corder
coral!jdc@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: rich@samson.cc.nd.edu (Rich Sudlow)
Subject: FDDI SBus cards
Keywords: FDDI SBus cards
Reply-To: rich@samson.cc.nd.edu (Rich Sudlow)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:57:22 GMT

I've never used FDDI before and have the following general ??'s.

The SBUS FDDI interface card which Sun is selling is a "Single-Attach"
card while their VME card is a dual attach card....Am I correct in
assuming that this means that two SBUS cards are required for the
counter rotating rings?? Can FDDI be implemented without the dual
rings?? What are the side effects of using a single ring??  

--
Rich Sudlow
Office of University Computing 
University of Notre Dame
rich@samson.cc.nd.edu




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From: liste@oslo.sgp.slb.com (Matthew Liste)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Type 5 keyboard on SS10
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:00:46 GMT
Organization: Geco-Prakla (Schlumberger), Oslo.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: geos209.oslo.sgp.slb.com

I'm using a type 5 keyboard with a SS10 under motif, and for some reason the
grey arrow-keys don't work, whilst the ones on the numeric keypad do. Does
anyone know how to map the grey arrowkeys to work?

-Matthew		(liste@oslo.sgp.slb.com)
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: PostScript Printers with 8.5"x 11" AND 11"x 17".
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:01:05 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1ifrpqINNbrr@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> jpd@discovery.msu.edu writes:
<Has anyone had any experience using a PostScript printer that can do both sizes mentioned
<above on Sparc.   I have a client whom wants me to investigate this.
<
<One alternative may be to use NewSprint instead of getting a PostScript printer, but I still 
<need both sizes, any experiences.
<
<How about prices, vender suggestions.   I've set up HP Laserjets, Apple laserwriters, and
<Sparcprinters, but none of these could do 11" X 17".

Have you looked at the new SPARCprinter 20?
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: UNIX-layout Type 5 keyboards (was Re: SunOS 4.1 upgrade to Sol. 2.1...)
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:33:29 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ

>>What would be a nice thing to do would be to make more people aware that
>>they don't *have* to get that keyboard, but can get the UNIX-layout Type
>>5 instead.

I don't think it's all that much better.  I don't like the Type 4, but got
used to it.
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