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I posted this on Monday the 18th and got this response via e-mail Tuesday
from Bob Hall, Kind Guitarist Extraordinaire...

>Can some kind guitarist post or e-mail me some funk-type chords or better
>yet a funk chord progression.  You know, one of those funky rhythm progressions
>you hear on Arsinio or even the 70's Average White Band stuff.  
>
>Many thanks in advance..
>
>Phil-
>

From rh34+@andrew.cmu.edu Tue Aug 18 08:10 PDT 1992
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:06:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Robert R. Hall" <rh34+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: REQ: Some FUNK chords or progressions

Phil

There's different types of funk, I guess you're talking
about the James Brown/Parliament kind, that's R&B funk.
Most of that stuff follows the I IV V progression with
9th chords and Dominant 7th's.  Some voicings are "funkier"
than others; here's some good ones (they're moveable)

C9      x 3 2 3 3 3
C7      x 3 2 3 1 x
G7      3 x 3 4 3 x
G7      3 2 3 x 3 x

Sex Machine by James Brown is
D9 (C9 -> C#9 -> D9)  x2
G9 (F9 -> F#9 -> G9)  x2
D9 (C9 -> C#9 -> D9)  x2
A9 (G9 -> G#9 -> A9)  x1
G9 (F9 -> F#9 -> G9)  x1
D9 (C9 -> C#9 -> D9)  x2

Listen to the song for the rhythm, it follows 
the standard blues chart

Modern funk is usually I III IV, Spin Doctors
are modern funk rock.  Usually the I is played
for most of the bar, then a riff at the end of
the bar is based on the III IV.  Hendrix used it
in Purple Haze

E7#9    0 7 6 7 8 0
G7      3 5 3 4 3 3
A7      5 7 5 6 5 5

I'm not familiar w/Average White Band, but most 
of the Arsenio stuff sounds "funky" because of the
bassline and the drumbeat, not the guitar.  They
use different progressions (I III IV, II V I, I IV V)
but when the bass guitar uses lots of minor thirds
(pentatonic) with the bass drum on the off-beats,
it's funk.  It's more in the rhythm than in the chords,
but if you're playing guitar on top of a funky rhythm, use 7th
and 9th chords, they blend really well with the pentatonic
basslines.

hope this helps
feel free to post this to alt.guitar

bob
 
>Thanks Bob, I can't wait to try this out.  Enjoy NetLand....
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From: bw@hpcvxgmr.cv.hp.com (Bill Wilhelmi)
Subject: Re: acoustic pianos versus digital pianos/keyboards
Reply-To: bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
Organization: Interstate 5
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:47:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.130236.13195@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>, sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis) writes:
|> Mark Nichols writes
|> > My girlfriend is interested in buying a piano. She is only interested
|> > in playing classical music. She is about an intermediate in skill
|> > level. Since we are in a apartment we are considering one of
|> > the digital pianos since it has adjustable volume and headphone 
|> > outputs.
|> 
|>   Personally, I'd prefer almost any acoustic piano (even one in marginal  
|> condition, as long as it holds a tune) to an electronic; the sound, feel, and  
|> presence of a digital piano is just not there, IMHO.  That being said, I do  
|> find the current generation of digital pianos to be great fun... especially  
|> those with a few good electric piano sounds added in.  But I would never  
|> suggest that any serious pianist buy one as his/her primary instrument.
|> 
|>   Good luck with whatever you decide upon.
|> 
|> Regards,
|> 
|> Steve

In summary:

   Reasons to get a Digital Piano (keyboard, synthesizer, whatever):

     1. You need an instrument that stays in tune no matter where you
	go.

     2. You have been unable to rely on a decent-sounding piano to be
	available wherever you practice or perform.

     3. You can't afford a good acoustic piano.

     4. You like the other sounds you can play on a keyboard.

     5. The keyboard has a reasonably good-sounding piano setting.

     6. You need a portable instrument.

     7. You can also afford to get a sound system and mixer.
	(Some electric/digital pianos come with built-in speakers.)

  
   Reasons to get an acoustic piano:

     1. The type of music you perform demands the "real thing".

     2. A decent, tuned piano is available wherever you expect to
	perform.  You don't really need a portable instrument.

     3. Your ears demand the "real thing".

     4. You have the money to get a good piano.

     5. If you play keyboards at all, you should have a good 
	acoustic piano.

Did I miss anything?  Anyone care to add to the lists?

-- 
 Bill Wilhelmi    
 Hewlett-Packard - User-interface Technology Division CV
 1000 NE Circle Blvd.  Corvallis, OR 97330
 bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com
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From: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: George Lynch Guitar Instructional Videotape For Sale
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:18:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bsw36E.232
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana



    Hi,

    I am selling my George Lynch instructional video tape from last
    year (I think).  It retails for $50, I will sell mine for
    $25 plus shipping.  (I got it for my birthday that's why I'm 
    selling it so cheap)

    thanks

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.audio
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Sony walkman
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 16:20:02 GMT

The differences between the D3 and D6 Pro walkmans are:

- $100  (D3 approx $200+, D6 approx $300+)
- D3 takes chrome or normal bias tapes, has dolby B NR.
  D6 also takes metal tapes and has B and C NR.
- D3 is smaller, and comes with a usable microphone.
  D6 is a little bigger and doesn't come with a mcirophone.

The D3 is the size of a normal walkman, and so will fit into pockets
whereas the D6 is bigger and bulkier.

The D5 is a semi-pro portable deck. It is much bigger (medium sized
telephone book size) and has 2 analog VU meters (the D3 and D6 have
one multi-LED input level meter). You have to sling this baby on your
shoulder.

You may want to consider one of the many portable DAT machines available
such as AIWA HS-1, Sony TCD3, Casio RA100, etc.. These are available for
$500-600 (or maybe even less - prices seem to drop weekly !). Get one
which has the slow speed mode - recording is at 32kHz (response is out
to 15k therefore) for 4 hours on a DAT120 tape.


Good luck !


cheers,

Shiv
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From: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Subject: Re: RIP - John Cage
Reply-To: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Washington State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:45:25 GMT


I heard a great story about Cage on NPR yesterday -- I didn't write it
down, or catch the name of the vocalist who told it, but she is the soprano
who has recorded most of Cage's vocal works.

She said that when she first heard Cage's music, she *hated* it 
because it was so chaotic.  She met Cage at a party or reception
and just popped off "Mr. Cage, the world is full of so much chaos,
how can you add to it with your music?!?".  Looking at the faces
around her, she figured she had really blown it, and went away.

A few minutes later, she felt a tap on her shoulder.  It was Cage --
with "a beatific smile", she said.  Cage said, "Maybe after listening to 
to my music, the world will seem a little less chaotic."

Of course, that short conversation changed her career and her life.

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From: moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Recording a band
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:19:50 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

Scott Evans writes:

>Paul Duffy writes:
>>Hi - I recently bought a Tascam 424.  I'll be using it to record
>>     practices, using 4 mikes.  What's the best way to get the
>>     fullest, deepest sound with only 4 mikes in a room with
>>     drum kit, 2 guitars and bass?  I'd like the kick drums
>>     to sound good, but with 4 mikes, can't put mikes on the
>>     kicks.
>
>
>Actually, our first demo was done using only two mikes, and that
>worked really well.  Just use an x-y pattern, which means to put 
>mikes pretty far away from the band and point em like this:
>
>
>                   \/   ^band this way^
>
>This provides a nice stereo image, since the mikes are pretty
>much in the same position as your ears.


You could also use a pair of omni microphones in a binaural or spaced
omni configuration.  For binaural you could use a dummy head or have
someone in the audience wear them.  The spaced omni's could be clipped
anywhere that's convenient.

By the way, I build a nice set of miniature, low cost microphones that
can be used for binaural or spaced omni recordings.  Details sent on
request.


Len Moskowitz

moskowit@tronsbox.xei.com (preferred address)
moskowit@panix.com (alternate address)
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From: etsang@skat.usc.edu (Eric Tsang)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Info Wanted: Sample sounds CD
Date: 12 Aug 1992 11:22:57 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

I am looking for any AUDIO sample sounds in CD format for my
sampler.  Does anybody have info about sound store for mail
order or any place I can get it free/trade/steal....
I need some CHEAP, COMPLETE and TYPICAL sample CD.
Any info will be appreciated.

Thanx in advance.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: paul@everest.tandem.com (Paul Duffy)
Subject: Recording a band: thanks
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:19:39 GMT

Thanks to everyone who posted ideas about how to place mikes
to record a band.  There were some good suggestions and I'll
be trying them out.

- Paul -

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Chuckorama)
Subject: What are the BEST DIGITAL DRUMS FOR JAZZ available today?
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:42:12 GMT

Hi y'all,
	This is a really important question for me - because I'd like to 
sequence some "classic" jazz pieces. Now, there are a ton of boxes out there,
but I have yet to here a digital drum machine that has the jazz brush, ride,
and low key snare and bass required for this kind of music. Does anyone have
any suggestions? How do they sound if there are such machines?

			Chuck
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From: simmons@ittc.wec.com (Garry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Portable DAT units as master decks (new Philips PCM)
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:01:09 GMT
Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corp., ITTC, Pgh. PA.

I just recorded a live gig to DAT using the "new" TEAC DA-P20 portable that looks
just like a Panasonic 255 that both look just like a Casio DA-7 with XLRs...
Somehow I suspect that one factory somewhere in Japan is cranking these things out
with various names on the front, I just haven't got the urge to open it up and
take a look inside. Anyway, the tape sounds great. I used the monitor sends (FB1
and FB2) on a Yamaha 1204 to feed the FOH and stage monitors respectivally, and
then used the L/R for feeding the DAT. Mixing FOH with FB1 was a pain, but I got
a good, completely independant stereo feed for the DAT. My only wish was that I
had compressed the signal going to DAT since it is destined for TV broadcast and
possible cassette reproduction. Compressing it now pulls the effects and back
ground noise (clinking bottles, conversation, typical bar noise) up way too
much. I'll be much smarter next time. Actually, I would have liked to have had
compressors on the lead vocals and grand piano, but given the highly feedback
prone nature of the room (horrible problems with mids), the compression would
have only added to the feedback problems. What I wouldn't give for a pair of
Sabine Feedback Exterminators...

Anyway, the DAT sounds find. The meters don't have enough resolution for my
tastes (but it IS portable). I like it just fine. Now if only didn't have SCMS...

Hope this helps,

Garry Simmons
simmons@ittc.wec.com
From: PRAMAN@KGNVMA.VNET.IBM.COM (Ankan K. Pramanick)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Digital Audio Tape Multi-trackers
Date: 17 Aug 1992 16:59:24 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Newsgroup: rec.music.makers, alt.guitar
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed the poster's own, and not
            necessarily those of IBM Corporation.

I have been away from these groups for some time, and apologize if the
following is a recently covered item:

Does anyone have any updates on Tascam's plans to introduce an 8-track
digital recorder (possibly using VHS cassettes), such as date of release,
suggested price, specs., mixer info. (included/not), etc.? I heard that such
a unit was in the works, and scheduled for a late '92 release, at a lower
price than Alesis' $3000+ 8-mm based ADAT 8-tracker. Also, how about
experiences with the Alesis ADAT unit? Any input will be appreciated.

-Ankan-
praman@kgnvma.vnet.ibm.com

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From: gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu (Greg Cardinale)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
Subject: Wanted:  Info on connector for TX16W mem. exp. board
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:02:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
Organization: UC Davis

I am in the process of building an expansion board for a Yamaha TX16W Sampler.
All of the components on the board are readily available EXCEPT for this 30-
pin connector made by Matsushita.  I've tried several (20) distributors of
connectors (10 of which were referred to me by the Panasonic [Matsushita]
main office in NJ.  Nobody seems to stock this part!  If anyone knows of a
distributor that carries this connector, PLEASE respond via e-mail.  The
connector part number is:     AXB 130101   .
As I mentioned, the connector is 30 pins; two rows of 15 pins, and it is
a right angle style connector.

Much thanks.

Greg C.
gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu
From: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Noisy A-B Pedal HELP!!!
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:17:46 GMT
Reply-To: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Organization: Control Data Corp., Arden Hills, MN

In article <Bsu20v.6IG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mjs49101@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Martin ) writes:
|>
|>      I'm posting this for a friend. He's got an A/B pedal hooked up
|>between a Marshall and a Roland (jazz chorus). The problem is that
|>when hooked up to both amps there is a lot of hum in the Marshall.
|>Is there anyone who can help? Maybe another type of pedal or something
|>I don't know.      
|> 
|>Thanks in advance.
|>
|> MARTIN
|> 
|>
|>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
|>|     Martin Spalding                                                      |
|>|     mjs49101@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                                            |
|>|                                                  PRIMUS sucks            |
|>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
            
Do the amps have polarity power switches? Try reversing either
or both in all combinations. Maybe a combination might work.
If not...
     
Do both amps have 3-prong plugs? If so, try TEMPORARILY lifting
one on either amp (with a cheater plug) to see if the hum goes
away. If so, DON'T LEAVE IT THAT WAY as an AC failure to gound
will find it's way back through the cables, possibly electrocuting
you. The right way to fix this is to break the ground loop by
changing one of the connecting cables to have it's shield broken
at one end (and only one end). The signal line should still remain
intact and ground continuity will be made through the amp grounds.
This cable will only be good for this application afterward,
not for general purpose usage (unless it's to fix another ground
loop problem).

Alex.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: gburton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Garland O Burton)
Subject: Re: Upgrading Radio Shack PZMs
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:59:07 GMT

 i have heard that you should use an "N" type battery.
rig it to fit somehow.  check with NPR in washington.
1-800-235-1212.  


-- 
gburton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu.............copyright 1992 gary burton........
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.folk,news.answers
From: tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Fishman sound (was: opinions/info wanted: short-scale basses)
Keywords: Fishman
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:54:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Oregon

In article <395@bit.UUCP> grego@bit.UUCP (Grego Sanguinetti) writes:
>Nathan, can you expound on the "Poorly Recorded Fishman Pickup (TM) sound"?
>I agree that there is a lot of jazz on record (or CD) with less than ideal
>sound from the acoustic bass. Are you attributing some of that to the
>Fishman? I have been thinking lately (imagine that!) that the Fishman

No, I don't mean to insult the pickups.  "Poorly Recorded Fishman Pickup" is
just how I think of a certain upright sound on a lot of jazz---sounds like
it was recorded too low, then turned up in the mix...I'm assuming it typically
comes from a Fishman, but I don't think the recording problems are the fault
of the pickup.

Anyway, while the sound probably isn't what the bassist intended, I've come to
associate it with a lot of stuff I like, so I find it kind of appealing and
was quite pleased when I managed to approximate it on an electric bass.

	NT
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:21:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: acoustic pianos versus digital pianos/keyboards
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: Sony walkman
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:27:02 GMT


|> I just bought a walkman---Panasonic RQ-V520. I like it very very much.
|>It comes with all the necessary features, such as autoreverse, auto
|>tapesetting, full logic control, digital tuning, 18 stations memory, dolby
|>system , extra bass system, FM DX/LOCAL switch and multi-function remote
|>control etc. I compared with Sony FX-55 and other brand Awia TS-55 etc
side by
|>side . I found RQV520 has much better sound, very clear and full bass. the
|>price for RQV520 at local is $99.90 and $85 for mail-order. I LOve it very
|>much. The sony unit FX55 is $150. Better check it out before you buy.
|>
|>                                           GOOD LUCK!

I think the original posting was for recording Walkmans?  Is this RQ-V520 
a record/play deck or what?  If it records is the sound quality great? ok?
so so?  Does it come with a mic? Condenser mic?
                                        

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From: jvb@wyse.wyse.com (Jack Van Breen x2666 dept220)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: SansAmp: any opinions ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:48:38 GMT
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

In article <12587@mahon> mahon@Software.Mitel.COM (Ed Mahon) writes:

>A friend of mine owns a music store and he received the demo tape for
>this unit.  My opinion?  I'd like to know what offboard effects they
>used on the demo!  I think the novelty would wear off pretty fast...

I've never heard the demo tape, so I can't address what effects they used.
However, I have 'demo'ed' a SansAmp personally, and it does what I exected
it to do, only better.  Basically it sounds just like my old '65 Fender
Super Reverb, a sound I've been looking for for the last 20 years (ever
since my soon to be, now ex, wife made me sell it so we could get
married;-() It also can sound like a '68 50 watt half-stack, that classic
'british' sound.  And it does it all 'electronically', ie. plugged direct
into the board.  As far as 'effects', it don't do that.  It's role is to
eliminate the need to carry arround 2 tons of amp and speakers to get that
sound.  It gets that sound direct at which point you don't have to fight
stage volume problems etc..   If I had the $250, I'd have one:)


-- 
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Product Support, Wyse Technology, San Jose, CA
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman)
Subject: Re: fender lace sensor question
Reply-To: till@lucid.com
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:24:14

   Date: 18 Aug 92 15:55:01 GMT
   From: dhi00@ccc.amdahl.com (Dario H. Impini )
   Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

   anybody know whats in a fender lace sensor?  ad hype says its a
   revolutionary new way of "reading" the strings but i want to 
   know whats really in there.  is it hall effect sensors, active
   pickups, or just coils like everybody else?  

Coil and magnet, just like everybody else.  Nicely designed and all, but
it's just a coil and magnet.

The ad hype is amazing isn't it?  The first sentence of their drivel is:
"It's not a pickup at all, but an Acoustic Emission Sensor (AES)."  
  1. It is a pickup.
  2. AES stands for Audio Engineering Society, a professional organization.
  3. What exactly do they think an acoustic emission is?  

  -- Don