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From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: Idiots in Congress
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:31:15 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (RS PRO-2006) writes:

>|This garbage thought process our fools on the hill have expoused
>|reminds me of efforts to ban so called Assault Rifle, and large 
>|capacity magazines: Lo protect us from ourselves, we are too stupid
>|to do so! And you could tell how it would pass for sure: the media

Its much more serious than that. Its just one more step in a continuing
organized government policy of reducing and eliminating the freedoms of the
many while protecting the intrests of the rich, powerful, few.

>Anyway, now that the we are f***ed, we will need to do scanner stuff
>differently now.

We need to do a lot differently. First off ged rid of these self-righteous
bastards that bought there way into office. 
1>guns are at the top of the list of things to take away from us (the people).
2>scanners and radio technology have just bit the dust.
3>random road blocks are now common. used to be unconstitutional.
4>no knock warrants are now common.   "     "       "       "
5>urine tests are a way of life now.
6>felons get free food, medical, dental, education, and entertainment, free.
7>i can't afford health insurance.
8>people will freeze to death in this country this winter.
9>congress gave theirselves a raise to appx. $150k a year PLUS MANY perks
 (that include free gas, liquor, printing, mail, use of government vehicles,
  dual housing allowance, medical (for life), dental (for life), security
  (like they need it in their rich neighborhoods), and MANY more.)
10>billions are spent on the "war on drugs" each year. over 70% of ALL arrests
   are for marijuana. and a recent senate report says (AGAIN) that the WOD is
   a failure, just like prohibition was. 
11>new RICO (?) act laws enable the government to sieze personal property
  (cash, house, farm whatever) without even filing charges in court!!!!

   I could go on.                                           
    But I guess I've vented enough. :) I feel much better..... NOT
From: Monty@vnet.ibm.com (Bryan Montgomery)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:15:35 BST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Listening to Presidential Debates
Reply-To: Monty@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Havant UK
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <19921006.021346.348@almaden.ibm.com> Bryan Montgomery writes:
>Hi,
>Does anyone know if the presedential debates are scheduled to be carried
>anywhere? If possible I'd like a frequency (& times) that I could listen
>to in Southern England.

I did actually hear this morning on VOA that they would be carrying them
from 11:00 GMT. Any other stations would be useful as I seem to have
trouble finding VOA after 11:00 UTC here.
>
>Thanks,
No problem !!
>
>                     From
>                            Bryan Montgomery  (Production Engineer)
>
> Tel : +44 (705) / (0705) 486363 Extn 8593          Mail Point 32/21
> Fax : +44 (705) / (0705) 664431                    IBM Havant
> Tie : 721 - 8593                                   Havant
> Internet : Monty@Vnet.IBM.com                      Hampshire, PO9 1SA
> VNET     : BRYANM at HVTVM4                        Great Britain
>

From: Bill.Whitacre@p916.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Whitacre)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Listening to Presidential Debates
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 12:18:40 -0500

 BM> Hi,
 BM> Does anyone know if the presedential debates are scheduled to be carried
 BM> anywhere? If possible I'd like a frequency (& times) that I could listen
 BM> to in Southern England.
 BM> 
 BM> Thanks,
 BM> 
 BM>                      From
 BM>                             Bryan Montgomery  (Production Engineer)
 
VOA will be carrying the debates live, worldwide - not only in English, but with
simultaneous translation in many languages.

I'm at a conference of VOA Technical Radio Officers (aka:  monitors) in West
Virginia right now and don't have the exact schedule, but if you check some of
your 'usual' VOA frequencies you'll probably find it.

Good luck!

Bill Whitacre
Frequency Management & Monitoring Division
Voice of America
From: tfb@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Tim Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: `Echos' on SW stations
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:08:29 GMT
Organization: Not

This may be a naive question -- I don't know anything about the
propagation of SW other than general physics.

Sometimes, on some frequencies, it sounds as if a station is coming
through some kind of echo/delay-line.  I notice this in particular on
the BBC World Service (but that's what I mostly listen to), & it's
frequency-specific -- for instance this morning there was no echo in
the 49m transmissions but there was in some other (19m?, I forget).  I
guess the total delay to be about .1 sec but it might be less --
usually the frequencies with this effect are rather faint anyway.

I'm curious as to why this happens -- obviously the signal is getting
to me by more than one path.  I could think of two reasons: the
wonderful one is that .1sec is about the time for a signal to go round
the Earth, so I'm hearing it the second time around too.  The one I
think more probable is that the signal is being bounced repeatedly
between some layer in the atmosphere & ground which gives the effect
of a multi-tapped delay-line.  The first must be too good to be true I
think, so I reckon the second.  Does anyone know?

Is there a good book which describes propagation of RF signals & the
sorts of phenomena you can expect for someone with a physics
background (i.e I don't mind maths)?

--tim
From: aj234@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Woolard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Sony mdl 2002 Info
Date: 7 Oct 1992 15:31:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


If anyone has advice, comments, recomendations on the Sony 2002, I would
apreciate any information you may have. How much is a 5 year old unit worth?
Send E-mail or respond here. Thanks in advance...




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CIRCLE OF LIFE'S SCHEME AND MUST ALWAYS EVENTUALLY ARRIVE AT ITS ETERNAL
POINT OF ORIGIN.
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From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Kenwood RZ-1 (was: Is ICOM-R100 Good?)
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:41:24 PDT
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <i62NsB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>,
 gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley) writes:
> nguyen@aladdin.eng.hou.compaq.com (Nghia Nguyen) writes:
>> I was going to purchase an AR-2500. However after reading
>> the comments on this net about the product, I am now
>> considering an ICOM R100 as an alternative for a bit
>> more money.
> I do not know anything incorrect in the comments of Jamie
> Hanrahan to this inquiry.  [...]

Well, *I* do!

In my reply I mentioned that the Kenwood RZ-1 had BFO and SSB modes.  
This is not correct.  Oh, and its coverage is 500 kHz - 905 MHz, 
AM, NFM, and WFM.  

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
uucp 'g' protocol guru and release coordinator, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) W.G., and 
Chair, VMS Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VAX Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
From: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 13:32:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, usr8563a@TSO.UC.EDU ("") says:

>>>Are there any other major broadcasters using SSB?
>>
>>Voice of America uses a twin sideband link (one program on upper sideband
>and the other on lower sideband) on 18.250 and 18.780 MHz... maybe a
>few others I haven't found yet.  They are not intended for broadcast, they
>are just links.  One day at 18.780 there was an English broadcast on the
>upper sideband and a French program on the lower sideband.
>
>
>Try the following freq.'s for VOA they are all twin sideband links.
>6837, 7651, 10235, 15752, 18275, 19379, 14526, 19261.5
>
 I heard Radio For Peace Int. on 7285 in USB this morning this might have
something to do with their recent problems of being jammed.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: hanavin@huey.udel.edu (Chuck Hanavin)
Subject: Re: Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:00:16 GMT


Besides the advantage of spectrum conservation, ssb with reduced carrier
 or no carrier, will save a considerable amount of electricity. One
of the VOA 500kw transmitters wastes 250 thousand watts in the carrier
alone. Times that by 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, and the number of
transmitters operating, and that adds up to a lot of wasted energy. A
station could save enough money in one year to pay for the cost of a ssb
transmitter and probally alot more.

On the recieving end, Beat frequency ocillators do not cost a lot of money.
a bfo can be added to any radio externaly. An oscillator at the either the
received frequency or the I. F. (+- 1khz) can be used to beat aqainst the
incoming signal and demodulate the SSB signal. Granted this is not the
best method, but it wont cost alot.


If all the major sw broadcasters switch over ssb, there will be lots of
cheap bfo's on the market, as well as, cheap japanese sw sets with the
added bfo.


WB3FJJ
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 17:25:30 CET
From: <9051413@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: long-wire antenna for sony ifc 7600 d

Hello|
I have recently bought a shortwave receiver - sony 7600 d -, and now
I am looking for some recommendations on how to improve it with a long-
wire antenna. The largest possible distance would be about 60 m. I live
in Austria (central europe) and I am especially interested in stations
located in latin-america. Any advice would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Thomas

E-Mail: 9051413@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Wanted: Sony SW-55
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:07:10 GMT

Yes, yes, I know it's new, and the odds of finding someone 
wanting to sell one used are pretty low.  Still, you never
know... Perot could win the election, Congress may lower
taxes, pigs might fly.  So if you have an SW-55 you would
like to sell, send me email.  Thanks.

Mike
m14494@mwvm.mitre.org

************************
* These are my opinions only.*
************************
From: tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: `Echos' on SW stations
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:01:48 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <TFB.92Oct7130829@badger.aisb.ed.ac.uk> tfb@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Tim Bradshaw) writes:
>Sometimes, on some frequencies, it sounds as if a station is coming
>through some kind of echo/delay-line.  I notice this in particular on
>the BBC World Service (but that's what I mostly listen to), & it's
>frequency-specific -- for instance this morning there was no echo in
>the 49m transmissions but there was in some other (19m?, I forget).  I

This "echo" is not caused by signals travelling around the golbe but by
signals relayed via satellite.  In Finland we can hear this same "echo"
when listening to BBC, Radio Moscow and sometimes to North American AM-
stations, eg. on 1290 or 1470 kHz.

There must be two transmitters on the same frequency relaying the same
programme.  The other one receives its signal via cable or micro-wave link
and the other one, usually a far-away transmitter, receives its signal via
satellite.  BBC has such frequencies where there is a transmitter in the UK
and another in the Far East, Africa etc.  When you are able to hear both
transmitters at the same time you can hear the "echo" caused by the delay
of the signal travelling from London via satellite to the transmitter site
and your receiver while the other signal does not travel via satellite.
The reason why you hear this "echo" sometimes is that the other transmitter
- usually the far-away one - is not audible at your listening-post.

This same phenomenon can be heard when listening to Radio Moscow world service
in the morning on 21 or 17 MHz.  There is a transmitter near Moscow and another
in the Far-East transmitting to the West coast of North America.  The other
transmitter gets its programme via satellite and thus there is an "echo" if
both transmitters are audible.

This same "echo" appears on 1470 kHz if I can hear two U.S. stations mixed
with each other.  When they have separate programming there is no echo but
when start relaying CBS or ABC-news the "echo" is heard becauce the other 
station relays the news via satellite.

#Jorma Mantyla
#Univ. of Tampere
#Finland

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Senate Law Passed
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 11:43:02 GMT

In article <SWL-L%92100823080012@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU> "David L. Wi
son" <dwilson@S850.MWC.EDU> writes:
>The new Senate anti-scanner law has passed and George Bush almost
>certainly will sign it.  Source:  CNN Thur. night.
>--
>David L. Wilson                 dwilson@s850.mwc.edu
>Department of Mathematics       Amateur: AC4IU (ex-KD4ASW/KO4EQ)
>Mary Washington College         Home Phone:    (703)898-1084
>Fredericksburg, VA  22401       Office Phone:  (703)899-4744



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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy)
Subject: MFJ-1020A Active Antenna Power Connections
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:10:36 GMT



Hello,

My housemate has an active antenna/preamp labelled MFJ-1020A, from a company
called MFJ Enterprises in Starkville, MS.  On the back there's a connection
for a DC power connection.  It looks like it takes about a 1/8" phono plug.
Only trouble is, it doesn't say what polarity to use (tip + or -).  Does
anybody out there have one of these critters, and if so, what polarity is
the power supply you are using?

Thanks,
Dan
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From: billg@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Bill Gingras)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:46:14 GMT
Subject: Re: `Echos' on SW stations
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave

 think the delay you hear is the difference between a signal reaching
 you in, say, one hop, and the same signal reaching you in two hops,
 etc.

 - Bill G
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: BBC Worldwide
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:42:44
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu's message of 16 Oct 92 01:55:34 GMT

>	       I've  just  received  my first copy of BBC  Worldwide


Have most other N American subscribers to London Calling now received
their first copy of BBC Worldwide? I have not, but I don't want to
waste time bugging Bush House unless my situation is unusual. 


Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: rmr@schumann.cc.columbia.edu (Bob Resnikoff)
Subject: Re: sw-55 info needed
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:18:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.4230.10054@dosgate> "paul noskiewicz"  
<paul.noskiewicz@canrem.com> writes:
> I too am looking at buying a SW-55 for general shortwave listening.
> I noticed that no one answered you thread, but I was curious if you have
> bought your 55 and if so if you have any comments on the unit?
> 
> I have not been able to find a price of 299 as you say you have.
> Was that through a mail order outfit?
> 
> Look forward to your response.
> --
> Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
> World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044

I have the SW-55 and I like it.  I must say that this is my first SW radio  
so I don't have any basis of comparison.  However, I can pick up all the  
stations I'm interested in when conditions are good (BBC, Austrailia,  
Deutche Welle, Israel, India, etc).  I use the telescopic antenna  
primarily and it seems adequate most of the time.  The only significant  
problems with are that it eats batteries really fast (I bought some nicads  
and a recharger to solve this), and that it doesn't have a synchronous  
detection circuit to reduce fading (I've only heard that this type of  
circuit works).  The radio seems well made and it is very portable and  
easy to use (although the 93 Passport thought it was too complicated).
Oh yes, it's not that great for scanning since the sensitivity level is  
not adjustable and you have to re-press the scan button after it finds a  
station.  The spec of the SW-77 seems better in this respect: it stops for  
two seconds and then keeps on scanning unless you stop it.

Hope this helps.

/Bob Resnikoff
From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Mexican mediumwave harmonic
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:11:24 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK

I am glad for the posting about the Mexican harmonic.  I have been trying to
figure out what was going on on several nights, here.  In North-central
Oklahoma, the signal ranges from brief periods of very clear to mostly 
bad.  There is also another station about 250HZ away from this one which
is just audible enough to hear as a hetterodyne with something modulating it.
As to the reason for it, there lots of reasons why a station will suddenly
start generating harmonics like that.  Certain types of damage to the antenna
and its connecting harness can create conditions for harmonic generation.
It could be that the final amplifier tube is going bad or that a component
in the output tank circuit gave up the ghoast and is causing a non-linear or
harmonic output.  Not knowing anything about the transmitter, it is really
impossible to say, but the Mexican equivalent of the FCC will probably have a
chat with the engineer, soon.  He or she is probably not aware of the problem
since things like this just happen from time to time and the only real concern
is to get them fixed soon so as not to bother people who are supposed to be
on that frequency.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
From: wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Teeny Tiny SWRs
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:54:20 GMT
Organization: Alpha Science Computer Network, Denver, Co.

In article <Bvx9Eq.K2q@news.cso.uiuc.edu| irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
|I picked up my Passport '93 and noted, as usual, there are precious
|few reviews of mini-portables (SWR).  They have the standard Sony
|Gamut they have had for the last 3 years or so:  SW20, SW1.  A
|smattering from Sangean (MS103, 101, 789).
|
Larry doesn't like very small radios. He likes the big ones with all
the features. Maybe he needs to do more travelling and take along
some of his favorite big ones (I have a friend who took an IC-R71
to Australia as his travel radio before he got a 2003.) and then
see what he has to say.

|Are there that few mini-potables?  I recall seeing ads for a Magnavox
|and a Panasonic minipotable.  Is it there just isn't that much interest
|in them that would warrant Mr. Magne to test them?
|
I think that there are not that many minis. It seems that the state
of the art for miniturization is with the compact size, but it is
still continuing so that soon goodies like PLL and SSB will appear
on the minis.

|And what of the mysterious Philips AE3905 that appears on the inside
|front cover (last 2 years) that has never had a mention?  
|
Question of the week! Isn't that a beauty! With all it's supposed
to do it must cost like the SW-1S. Philips couldn't have spent money
on an ad for something that was years away. I haven't heard a thing
on it, but certainly would.

-- 
Bruce Watson (wats@scicom)  Tumbra, Zorkovick; Sparkula zoom krackadomando.
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Cellular scanning
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:54:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw0xyF.FJC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Better yet, lets post instructions on how to downconver the cell bands 
to the Amateur 2m band.  Any takers?


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Reply-To:     "(Alfredo Cotroneo)" <A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT>
From:         "(Alfredo Cotroneo)" <A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT>
Subject:      Civil aviation sw frequencies

I wonder if anyone on this list has frequencies used by transatlantic
planes (TWA, American, Delta, etc.) on shortwave. Or do they use
satellite transmissions to talk to their own people on the land?

Just curious to know how a commercial flight plane would communicate
to the air traffic control over the Atlantic, since the 130MHz band
-I guess - would be of very little use because of the distance.

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