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From: ckunz@src4src.linet.org (Charles Kunz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Compute Gazette section - 11/92
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:17:10 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

Well, after much waiting I got a letter from Compute stating that the back
issue I requested (Nov. 1992, Gazzete version) is out of stock.  Arg!
A subscription extension is not much of a consolation.  What am I missing?
Any vital bug-swats?  How else can I nab a copy of this issue?

Chuck
-- 
C-64 guru of the Long Island *Met!
E-mail: ckunz@src4src.linet.org, aq084@cleveland.freenet.edu
"I love you.  Do you love me?  Please please!  (I wanna hold you)" - Dan Baird
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Flyback transformer for 1084 Monitor (Philips Made)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:50:07 GMT


An old ham radio cure for transformers whose windings are
shorted and not open is to soak the flyback transformer in
shellac varnish for a few days.  Before you do that, you
might check and see if the thermistor has not gone bad.  If you
have an open flyback winding, it likely will be at a connector
you can easily get at and repair.

Ron
AK0N
From: ba005@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacey Armstrong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: You will be able to download software from IRC
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:32:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ba005@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacey Armstrong)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, ec_ind03@Oswego.EDU (William Jhun) says:

>In article <1k4tavINNkkj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ba005@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacey Armstrong) writes:
>>However, I do not know how to use dcc.  I have tried, but it just does
>>not work for me.  Can anyone clue me in on this?
>
>Well, for one, it is impossible to do DCC at a remote client (such as
>BRADENVILLE.ANDREW.CMU.EDU)...because there is no-where to put a file. Set
>up a client on your system, and then you can DCC...

Is it possible to set up a client on a Commodore though?

-- 
Stacey Armstrong           
ba005@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: msmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (Marko Mkel)
Subject: Re: one question
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:24:16 GMT

In article <C1Iwzo.H5z@ecf.toronto.edu>, utukuri@ecf.toronto.edu
(UTUKURI AVANINDRA) writes:

> At the ftp site ccosun, what directory is the 64 stuff in, and once I have it
> (the files I download) on a pc disk, what is the best and easiest way to get
> my 64 to read those files?

This message was replied before me, but I must add that the ultimate way of
transferring anything between C64 and PC using any CBM serial bus disk drive is
using the x1541.exe program somewhere under ccosun.caltech.edu:/pub/rknop. The
program shows the interface cable pin configuration upon running. A PC
Centronics port is going to emulate CBM serial bus.

Using 1571, 1581 (or even 1541) to read PC disks is possible, but first you
have to get a utility program enabling it to your C64. The x1541 does not need 
anything in the Commodore end.

Best regards,
Marko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT)
Subject: Re: 2 Q's: BMI & SAVE@
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:57:56 GMT
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657
Keywords: oops

I wrote in <C0xI7E.428@ddsw1.mcs.com>:

| BPL and BMI are for the rarely-used signed arithmetic, and +128 through +255
| are considered negative (because they mean -128 through -1) and -129 through
| -255 show up as positive (because the evaluate to 127 through 0).  BMI should
| be perfectly fine for testing (1) whether BIT found bit 7 set, (2) when a re-
| gister is decremented from 0 to 255, or (3) when one is incremented from 127
| to 128.

Stephen Krauth confirmed my guess about why Butterfield had warned against
using BMI, but I see I made a small goof: -255 is the same as 1.  -256 is
the same as 0.  Any result from 0 to 127 or from -256 through -129 will clear
the N flag, causing BPL to branch and BMI not to branch.  Any result from
128 through 255 or from -128 through -1 will set the N flag, causing BMI to
branch and BPL not to.  BMI works after CMP or SBC as a neophyte might expect
only if the minuend and the subtrahead differ by less than 128, and for that
matter, the same applies to BPL.  BCC and BCS respectively are more likely to
mean what the programmer wants.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: paul@grafted.UUCP (James P. Caldwell)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Flyback transformer for 1084 Monitor (Philips Made)
Organization: GRAFTED, Central Indiana's Usenet BBS 317-881-4369
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 23:18:10 CST

rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson) writes:

> 
> An old ham radio cure for transformers whose windings are
> shorted and not open is to soak the flyback transformer in
> shellac varnish for a few days.  Before you do that, you
> might check and see if the thermistor has not gone bad.  If you
> have an open flyback winding, it likely will be at a connector
> you can easily get at and repair.
> 
> Ron
> AK0N

On the 1084 monitor there was a bulletin on the flyback, they
fail also a rather large resistor gets smoking hot and melts
a capacitor near it. Commodore has a kit to repair this
request the 1084 monitor repair kit. Give them the +EXACT+
model number and have the date of manufacture handy. This
kit contains the fly cap and resistor. Should cost less
than 40.00. I have a kit if interested

--
James P. Caldwell
The Grafted Branch BBS
317-881-4369
internet: paul@grafted.rn.com
uucp: ..!uunet!grafted.rn.com!paul
    -= newsfeeds available, contact robert@towers.rn.com =-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: icsu0130@cs.montana.edu (Robert)
Subject: archie knows ftp
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:15:34 GMT

Archie is a useful internet program that can help
locate public domain files.  Archie maintains a database
of over 1300 anonymous ftp sites and can tell you about
all sites that have a particular file that interests
you.

To access Archie, do the following steps.  (You might want to make
a script session of your interactions so that all of the information
located by Archie will be recorded.)


1) telnet archie.unl.edu
   (This site is in Lincoln, Nebraska.  It is Internet etiquette
    not to access sites during weekday business hours.)

2) The login name you should provide is 'archie'.
   Do not type the single quotes.

3) Type 'help' to find out what commands are available to you.

4) Type 'prog searchstring' to find all public domain sites that
   contain your searchstring.

5) Type 'exit' to leave archie. 


-- 
**** Clem@fubar.cs.montana.edu or Icsu0130@caesar.cs.montana.edu *****
Whitehouse  -  the next generation
No. 1    - It's wrong to create a whole race of humans to live as slaves.
Clintoon - Resistance is futile.  Your middle class incomes will be assimilated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: msmakela@cc.helsinki.fi (Marko Mkel)
Subject: FTP sites and data transfer methods (Was: How and Where to get d/l: s)
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:57:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.115150.3008@dct.ac.uk>, mcsdc1ph@dct.ac.uk writes:

Hello, Feekzoid!

> I hear a lot of talk about downloading and uploading software.
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> (1) - How does one do this?  Please note that I'm not using a 64 for up/down
>       loading, I am in fact using a PC.
> 
> (2) - Where are the sites that the software is held?  FTP sites, yesno?

Answers in reverse order:

(2) The most known FTP site is ccosun.caltech.edu. Under the subdirectory
/pub/rknop is much Commodore stuff. Other sites are cvawes.stfx.ca (or cwaves)
and oswego.oswego.edu.

(1) As you are using PC, the easiest way is to download x1541.exe from ccosun.
Then you just make a cable between your PC and your CBM disk drive. There are
some instructions when you execute the file. (This should be added to the FAQ
file (also available from ccosun), I think.)

Another solution is to use a program that makes 1571 or 1581 read PC disks. But
how can you get this program to your C64, if you don't have any other data
transfer methods? There will sooner or later be also a program for 1541 to read
MFM disks, but it involves a very little modification to the drive (a trace
must be rerouted).

The RS232 solution is painfully slow if you use the user port method. You would
need a real RS232 interface that costs somewhat more.

Regards,
Marko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: utukuri@ecf.toronto.edu (UTUKURI AVANINDRA)
Subject: one question
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:38:08 GMT


At the ftp site ccosun, what directory is the 64 stuff in, and once I have it
(the files I download) on a pc disk, what is the best and easiest way to get
my 64 to read those files?

Thanks.
From: rknop@cco.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 128 Keyboards
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:54:02 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

lardinoi@cae.wisc.edu (Shane M Lardinois) writes:

>     Does anyone know where, or if it's even possible, to purchase
>replacement keyboards for the 128. The one I have now is really getting

For a while, Software Hut was selling at least replacement C128D keyboards for
a good price (something like $20).  Dunno about flat 128 keyboards.  Here are
a couple of places to call:

Software Hut
2524 S. Broad St.
Philadelphia, PA  19145
Orders: 1-800-848-0079
Info:   1-215-462-2268
Fax:    1-215-339-5336

Grapevine Group
3 Chestnut Street
Suffern, NY  10901
USA Orders:   1-800-292-7445
Int'l Orders: 1-914-357-2424
Cust Service: 1-914-368-4242
Fax:          1-914-357-6243


-Rob Knop
rknop@cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael)
Subject: Question about Commodore
Originator: zmed0b@zircon
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:32:52 GMT


Hello fellow netters!

Am I correct in assuming that the Commodore 64 doesn't require you to buy
any certain monitor?  You can just use a normal TV, can't you?  Thanks.

Mike
From: ab245@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sam Latonia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: COMMODORE & OTHER FOR SALE 1/24/93
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:33:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


                 BRAND NEW & USED EQUIPMENT PRICE LIST  1/24/93
(1) COMMODORE C64C COMPUTER BRAND NEW IN THE BOX - WITH POWER SUPPLY
    $100 - WITH OWNERS MANUAL AND SEALED GEO'S PACKAGE FROM COMMODORE
(1) COMMODORE C64C COMPUTER USED BUT IN LIKE NEW CONDITION POWER SUPPLY
    $75 - WITH OWNERS MANUAL & HINGED KEYBOARD COVER & NEW TENIX C64C CASE
(2) C64 POWER SUPPLIES - USED BUT LIKE NEW CONDITION $20 EACH
(1) AVATEX 1200HC EXTERNAL RS232 MODEMS - USED BUT IN LIKE NEW CONDITION
    $35 WITH BOOKS BOX & CABLE
(1) AVATEX 2400HC EXTERNAL RS232 MODEMS - USED BUT IN LIKE NEW CONDITION
    $75 -  WITH BOOKS BOX & CABLES
**************************************************************************
SOFTWARE - ALL FACTORY PACKAGES WITH MANUALS AND INSTRUCTIONS
C128 DISKBUSTERS II/COPY PROTECTED SOFTWARE 128 MODE $30
C128 DISKBUSTERS 2 DRIVE ADAPTOR FOR USE WITH DISKBUSTER I & II $20
C64 CERTIFICATE MAKER $15
C64 CERTIFICATE LIBRARY VOLUME #1 $10
C64 TEST DRIVE GAME $10
C64 ARRAYS INC. PHONE CALL TERMINAL & BBS PROGRAM $10
C64 FLIGHT SIMULATOR II $5
C64 PRACTICALC 64 $5
C64 THE DISK SURGEON C64 PRO $5
C64 DI-SECTOR V3.0 $5
C64 DISKBUSTER/USED TO COPY PROTECTED SOFTWARE 64 MODE $30
C64 SCREEN EDITOR C64 $5
C64 HOME MANAGER/WORD PROCESSOR/DATA MAGIC/CALCULATOR/MEMO PAD $5
C64 BEACH HEAD II U.S.M.C. GAME $5
C64 EASY SCRIPT/WORD PROCESSOR $5
ALL PRICES ARE ROCK SOLID- PLUS SHIPPING COST IF NEEDED:

If interested please reply in private e-mail, thank you...
From: fred@cbmvax.commodore.com (Fred Bowen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: ***** HELP needed on a c-64 video problem *
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:37:36 GMT
Reply-To: fred@cbmvax.commodore.com (Fred Bowen)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

rlucas@bvsd.Co.EDU (Richard Lucas) writes:
>>>>     This summer, my sister-in-law fried (as in smoke coming out of the
>>>> keyboard) our beloved C64. The component that blew is located at position
>>>> C15 on the motherboard. Bottom part of it is blue; top part is completely
>>>> missing, taking with it anything to indicate just what it was....
>
>Bruce Vreiling: 
>>> I'm no hardware expert, but I think a reasonable question you should be
>>> asking is WHY did it blow? It could very well be that you pop in a new chip,
>
>     It probably isn't a 'chip' in the correct sense of that word.
>Component would be a better choice. What's left doesn't look like a
>capacitor, or much of anything actually, which is the problem. There's no
>similar item on the motherboard that we can see. Position C15 is just to
>the left and a little bit below what someone told me in e-mail is the
>6567R8 MOS chip (using the word correctly this time).

There have been many different C64 boards- that's why it's difficult for
folks to help identify such parts.  From your description of the part
and the things near it, sounds like 4.7uF 16V tantalum capacitor.

But an exploding cap implies something serious happened, as Bruce and
others suggested.  While something might have shorted out on your board,
it's more likely your power supply failed, sending bad news throughout
your C64 and frying (the smoke) many components and chips before the
lowly cap exploded (in fact, the system would likely work just fine
without that particular cap).

Before you simply replace the cap (costs about $.50) and plug 'er in
again, check the power supply! Otherwise, wear protective gear and duck,
least one of those exploding caps sting you. 
--

-- 
Fred Bowen			uucp:	{uunet|rutgers|pyramid}!cbmvax!fred
				domain:	fred@cbmvax.commodore.com
				tele:	215 431-9100

Commodore Electronics, Ltd.,  1200 Wilson Drive,  West Chester,  PA,  19380
From: georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Question about Commodore
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:36:34 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: marie.physik.tu-berlin.de

In <1993Jan27.083252@trc.amoco.com> zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael) writes:


>Hello fellow netters!

>Am I correct in assuming that the Commodore 64 doesn't require you to buy
>any certain monitor?  You can just use a normal TV, can't you?  Thanks.

Yes, that is correct.
Of course, a monitor gives a much better picture.
From: tonyc@compnews.co.uk (Tony Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: You will be able to download software from IRC
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:21:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Newspaper Services, Howden, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sage.compnews.co.uk
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I am at this moment re-writing CBM-BOT on irc (#C-64) so you will be able to
ask it to dcc send demo files, utilities, musix and editors, graphix editors,
coding utilities........

I will also include a top 10 list of demo charts taken from: Brutal Recall
(When i get round to speaking to TCH/Brutal about this). If i have the time
i will also include:-

News and rumours around the scene: Euro and OZ, Not USA.
Musix, graphix charts etc....
Contact names and addresses.
+ lots of other info................

When i get my PC back of a friend then i can start to covent the text and soft-
ware, this should happen soo :)

Anybody interested in this before i start the project.

--
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    |      |
    |      |				tonyc@compnews.co.uk
    |  (o)(o)				chiefy@ibmpcug.co.uk
    C       )
    |   /__|   Don't have a cow, man!	Macintosh Information Systems
    |    /				Computer Newspaper Services Ltd.
   /     | 				Howden, Nth Humberside. UK
From: georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: C64 format
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:31:30 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: marie.physik.tu-berlin.de

In <1993Jan25.094717@trc.amoco.com> zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael) writes:

>I'm new to the C64 and have a question.  What type of floppy disk format
>does the C64 take?
Commodore's own format: GCR, 35 tracks per side, single sided (C64, 1541) or
double sided (C128, 1571).
> IBM PC?
No, the IBM PC uses MFM.

>And if it is IBM PC, could you take a C64 disk
>and successfully copy it on the IBM PC?
It is not, and a PC disk drive cannot read GCR disks.

Note however that the 1571 is capable or writing and reading MFM disks.
With some aditional software (several solutions exist) it can read and
write MS-Dos 360K disks.

I think with a 1581 the situation is similar for 3.5" disks (I never had a
1581, though).

For further info, please refer to the FAQ (or cantact me if you don't have
one).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: stlucas@gdwest.gd.com (Joseph St. Lucas)
Subject: Re: Question on c128D and jiffydos and others
Organization: General Dynamics Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:59:11 GMT

Ok, thanks to folks I've found the tiny pads on the main pc board on
my c128d to cut for the internal 1571 drive selection.  They're small
little buggers, not like the ones I've cut on my 1541.
ALso, after searching through my memory maps, I've found that the
equivalent to poke781,x:poke782,y:poke783,0:sys65520 on the c64 is
poke7,x:poke8,y:sys65520 on the c128.
I'm still in need of a foolproof way to tell (via peek/poke) if my
machine is a c64 or c128, and I haven't listed out the drives roms
to tell how a program tells which drive(s) are hooked up.
I'm still in need of jiffydos commands.  I suppose I could write the
company and ask, but I was hoping someone in netland had the info.

Once again, our site has not gotten new newsfeeds since 1/19, but email
gets through with no problem if you have any info.  THanks.

-- 
Joe St.Lucas    stlucas@gdwest.gd.com        Standard Disclaimers Apply
General Dynamics Space Systems, San Diego
My blood runs Husker red.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: jgreco@solaria.mil.wi.us (Joe Greco)
Subject: Re: any VIC-20 owners ?
Organization: Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:43:36 GMT

In comp.sys.cbm article <1993Jan20.003554.19139@ousrvr.oulu.fi>, pkor@zombie.oulu.fi.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen) wrote:
:Not a hardcore Commodore dude anymore, but I still have my VIC-20 stashed.
:Sometimes I boot the thing to have a few rouhds of Omega Race. What i wanted
:to ask, is there any VIC-20 users around ? And can you do the net.thing with 
:it ? Would be so nice to show all this to *sigh* my first computer...

Closest mine comes to doing the "net.thing" is to be hooked up to one of my
UNIX systems....  it acts as a dedicated doorbell for a couple of doors and
traces three phone lines (calls made/received, duration, numbers called,
etc) and talks back to the UNIX box when it feels like it.

Been a long time since I programmed 6502 assembly... did all of that in
assembler, loaded into the 3K RAM on the system.  How time flies!

My Commodore roots will always be there, though.  ;-)

... Joe

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Joe Greco - System Administrator		       jgreco@solaria.mil.wi.us
Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI			   414/321-9287
From: roo@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Low)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Bitimploder and Sequence Crunch
Organization: Zone4
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:33:16 GMT

I can answer your first question:

In article <1jksi6INNqvu@bigboote.WPI.EDU> 
bab@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Alan Baker) writes:
>
>	- How do I figure out what $01 value to use?
>          (It says that normal = $37.  Why is this normal, and what
>           does it mean?)

If your program uses any of the ROM routines then it would be a good
guess to put $37 into $01 (that is location $0001 in the 64 memory).
If you're not quite sure what this is all about just stick with $37 
and get a memory map of the 64 and read it.

Most of the programs I'm crunching have $01 set in the code if it is
needed and the code that sets it is in 'regular' memory (ie: memory
that is not overlayed with ROM).  

The whole point of $01 is that it controls which portions of memory
have ROM or RAM in them, in fact you can use $01 to turn off the
video registers and get to the RAM underneath them.  Sometimes you
want to do this, most of the time you don't.

+/+\+/+\+/+chew carefully/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+
Andrew [roo@zone4.ocunix.on.ca] m a c h i n e l o v e h a t e f e a r v o i d .
** Please note change of address! ** User Id has changed from 'andrew' to 'roo'
From: v131p9t3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ninstar Cybermage: Black Phoenix Rising)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: +=[==--A64 question--==]=+
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Can anyone tell me how well the A64(Commodore 64 emulator for the Amiga)
works?  Is it reasonably reliable?  I hear that it runs a little slow, but
that doesn't concern me much.  I want to know if it'll run my software when 
I get my Amiga.  I'm not quite willing to give up having my huge software
library, and keeping both computers hooked up isn't a great idea either.

James Shank           	I		v131p9t3@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
AKA: Ninstar Cybermage  A	or	shank@acsu.buffalo.edu
XINEOHPAEGAMREBYCRATSNINMMYOWNMANANDIBELIEVEINMYOWNWAYOFDOINGMYLIFEANDMYSIGNYAH
"Anyone with a .sig more than four lines long is a self important fool!"-Marek
"OOPS!  8-)" -Ninstar, on line 5 of his .sig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: 2 Q's: BMI & SAVE@
Organization: Foxes 'R' Us - Seven locations to serve you
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:39:22 GMT

mcbride@cs.arizona.edu (Chris M. McBride) writes:

>>>Could someone post the patch to fix the "@:fname" bug

>>OPEN 15,8,15,"S0:fname" : CLOSE 15
>>SAVE "fname",8

>Well This is the reason doing a simple scratch and save DOESN'T work.
>If you don't want this nasty bug to appear, you should ALWAYS use a
>"0:" in EVERY I mean EVERY command. In order for the above 'patch' to
>work correctly it should read:

Huh??  If you always SCRATCH the file then SAVE, you will not run into
the @-save bug, because you're NOT USING @-save!!  :)

-- 
#ifdef TRUE         | Fuzzy Fox                  fuzzy@netcom.com
#define  TRUE   0   | a.k.a. David DeSimone      an207@cleveland.freenet.edu
#define  FALSE  1   |
#endif              | "911 Emergency Rescue Service - Can you hold, please?"
From: mrdunn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Robert Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: TO: Michael W. Kelly
Date: 22 Jan 1993 03:48:36 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Sorry to waste bandwidth this way, but my e-mail keeps bouncing.

Hello, if you're not Michael Kelly don't bother to read this, it'll only
bore you.

If on the other hand you are Michael Kelly and you still want to buy the c64
power supply.
I no longer have a 64 (this is being written on a 128) so I can't test the
power supply, so I figgure to be fair I'll just send it to you and if it
works you can send me the money, otherwise you can trash the power supply
and we'll call it even.
If this sounds good to you send me e-mail with your address and I'll mail it
to you