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From: Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (Russell P. Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: I'm surprised that...
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:11:52 GMT
Organization: HOG HEAVEN
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov11.013534.4182@c3.PLA.CA.US>
niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard) writes:

> ... there hasn't been one mention of Sonny Barger's release from prison here
> in r.m.h. Fascinating that this would go unnoticed here; it was a major deal
> in the Bay Area, getting coverage on all four local news channels (and probably
> CNN too.)

Well I for one am pleased to be informed of Sonny's release. The NH
press didn't cover it at all as far as I could tell.  Thanks for the
news Neal!

Russ Hughes  '92 FXSTC  DoD# 6022(10E20)
"Love ...yeah, that's the feeling you get when you like something
as much as your motorcycle."
                     --Sonny Barger (as told to me by Ed Campbell,
                  who has an old friend who was there at the time)
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: 39mm Fork Relief
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:25:46 GMT
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association

So, ya got 39mm forks, huh?  Ya do ya own maintenance, huh?
You really hate putting those fork caps back on after you change
the fork oil, huh?  Pushing on that spring?  Cursing all the
time?  And you know the oil needs to be changed every 10k miles.
Not only is it turning black, but the additives are just about
used up.  WHAT'S A BIKER TO DO????

Well, do I gotta deal for you!  You only gotta do it one more
time.  Then you are home free, Bogart.  See, harley makes a
bunch of bikes with dyna glide frames.  these bikes all have
39mm forks, just like yours.  but, they have one thing that
your bike doesn't have: they have a diploma.  (Oops, wrong
movie.  sorry. sorta got carried away there).

Anyway, they got for caps with threaded holes in them.  And,
there are allen head screws fitted in these holes.  So, when
you change oil, you just remove the screws, add a funnel & pour.
the screws go back on easily and you don't have a screen to
push against.  it's too easy.  And the best thing?  these setups
fit all 39mm forks.  i know... it works on mine.

so, mosey on down to your dealer and have him (her?) pull out
a dynaglide parts book.  you want 2 caps and two screws... the
o-ring gaskets for the caps and screws come with them.  now, 
wasn't that easy.  I suggest that you do it soon, in case he has
to order one of these.

____________________________________________________________________________
Some people think that I ride a Harley for patriotic reasons.
Not true.  I ride a Harley because it is the best for my tastes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: crsg9887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chad R. Sandstrom)
Subject: Re: XLH vs Big Twin(accolades for the randyramaman)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:06:44 GMT

A glorious piece of writing I did just read.  My praise goes out
to R. Davis the ZX-1.1 Pilot.  You have the intellectual inertia
of a truck and the logicical incisivneness of a large shard of 
glass left upon the roadway.  May you never meet up with any 
actual trucks or shards whilst riding your bike of choice, and
may you please take your noisy prattle to rec.motorcycles where
it belongs.  I would be happy to hear any substantive comments
that the man of the low black number 13 could (if he would)
contribute to this Bulletin Bored "rec.motorcycles.harley"
The name of the game here is Harley Davidson Motorcycles.

--
chad sandstrom - FLSTN skipper
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: dormont@spot.Colorado.EDU (DORMONT WILLIAM  M)
Subject: Balancing
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:30:08 GMT

Another question that has come up on the way to reviving my basket '79
shovel - when a Harley crank is dynamically balanced, how do they do it?
The one shop I talked to that went into detail said they true up the crank,
note how true it is, disassemble it, put it together without the rods, and
send it to the balance shop (with rods, pistons, rings, pins for weighing).
Then, when they get it back, they reassemble the whole thing and true it
as closely as they can to where they had it before.  This sounds screwy
to me.  
I got a lot of good responses here regarding lower end work and other stuff,
like rocker box chrome (I'm going to polish instead).  My crank parts seem
pretty fresh still, but I want to have it checked out and rebalanced.
 Oh, yeah - one place said they really like Wiseco stroker pistons.  They
said they are more durable than the S&S.  Any opinions?

			Denny Powers
			c/o dormont@spot.colorado.edu

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: XLH vs Big Twin
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:11:02 GMT

In article <sezuawC00WAE40TEhA@andrew.cmu.edu> John Makel <jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>This past weekend, I stopped at the local Harley-Honda shop to
>shoot the breeze. The owner, parts manager and head wrench
>were in the back checking out this new Honda CBR600RR
>that was bought by some young kid hoping to hit super-stardom
>by driving at light speed. Well, as it turns out the kid went down
>at speeds in excess of 80mph(slow for you rocket riders isn't it?)
>and totaled the ride out. Now all that I could see was this broken
>plastic, which as I later found out costs an arm and leg. The KID
>as I call him, wore the usual gear-tennis shoes, tank top, and shorts
>that so many expert riders wear today, after all isn't that what
>Doonan or Rainey wear when thay go to Seca, Riverside and such.
>The KID wants to have the ride put back on the road I guess that
>he wants to try the same scene over again except maybe at Mach3
>this time ,but without the shirt and shoes. Isn't it odd that although
>there are lines drawn a Harley rider and the  others that there are
>still clowns out there improperly dressed, driving so fast that there
 
Was that sentence supposed to make sense?
 
>is little time to enjoy the ride, isn't that what it is all about?
>The Highway is not a racetrack for the rocket rider, the track is,
>nor is an improperly dressed fool prepared for the consequences
>of meeting the pavement at any speed. Ride safe, dress properly
>wave to the rider on the rocket or the KID in the shorts, it may
>be the last time that you see him....
>
>					john...

That inferiority complex looks mauhvelous on you ZHON. Like majestic.
 
================================================================================
 Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes - I set'r free.Nyuk
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: stafford@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: XLH vs Big Twin
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:47:23 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System


for those trying to decide between a Sporty and and a Big Twin:

1) Sporsters are a class among themselves and do not compare to
the Big Twins for easy riding.  They are faster than the Big Twins
but are less comfortable by a long reach!
2) Do not compare sportys to japanese bikes because $ for $ the
japanese bikes perform better in every regard.   So be it.  Look
back on this statement 10 years from today if you buy a jap bike
and are looking for parts.  You loose if you don't have the Sporty.
3) There is a strong and mature road-racing fraternity of Sporsters.
You may have to go to the European and Japanese magazines to see
these highly modified motorcycles but they exist and they are just
beautiful! 

IMHO - The Sportsters are for sport!  They are a very special class
of motorcycles not intended to compete with the Big Twin in any
regard.  If you dig atheletic riding and need no respite, then
maybe the Sportster, especially the Evo genre, is your bag.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn)
Subject: Re: I got mine finally to
Keywords: HARLY
Reply-To: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:44:33 GMT

--
In article <15401@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, dellis@Auspex.COM (David Ellis)
writes:
|>Path:
|
engage.pko.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!uunet!
!auspex-gw!dellis
|>From: dellis@Auspex.COM (David Ellis)
|>Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
|>Subject: I got mine finally to
|>Keywords: HARLY
|>Message-ID: <15401@auspex-gw.auspex.com>
|>Date: 9 Nov 92 17:16:52 GMT
|>Sender: news@auspex-gw.auspex.com
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|>Nntp-Posting-Host: acdelco.auspex.com
|>
|>Thursday night I went and picked up mine. 
|>she's a "74" FXE  1200
|>kind of weird going thru the gears though
|>
|>1 up  3 down   hard to get used to   
|>
|>it's a step up from my "74" sporty
|>
|>keep'em upright
|>	  
|>-- 
|>Dave Ellis                If it's FREE I'll take it..   
|>dellis@auspex.com         If it's AMERICAN I'll buy it.  
|>

That's not the way it's supposed to be. Some racer types reverse
the shift pattern to crunch through the gears faster.

If the bike has the stock mid mount controls, you'll have to change
the shifter drum inside the tranny back to an FX drum. If it has
aftermarket forward controls, chances are the shifter drum is the 
stock FX drum but the previous owner used the FL ratchet lid arm
and rod which shifts the drum from underneath. Get the FX arm and
rod and relocate it to the top of the lid. This will change the shift
pattern back to the 1 down, three up stock pattern.

CdH
<<<<<<<<<<<<   Ninety eight....don't be late  >>>>>>>>>>>>
Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Shrewsbury MA USA
dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
From: m_bellor@nntpd2.enet.dec.com ("Sasquatch")
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Riviera 4 valve heads
Date: 7 Nov 92 14:35:29 GMT
Reply-To: m_bellor@nntpd2.enet.dec.com ("Sasquatch")
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO




 Chris,

 I read rav's on the S&S "E" carb all the time on this news feed and also
 our internal notes file. Do you have any experience with the clucking
 chicken carbatutter, from the lit that I have read they seem to be very
 comparible?  Here in the Springs the S&S was was about 10 to $15 more, so
 I am going with the Harley part. That and the fact that the wife does not
 like to mismatch components if a comparable Harley part can be had. I was
 leaning with Crane and the S&S, until it worked out to be about $100 more
 for all parts needed. I also here that the scoot will hold value better
 if I stick to Harley parts. What are your feelings on these things? I am
 just beginning the winter "project", to be limited to just a basic warmed
 over job. I will leave the stroker to a shovel, and that will have to
 wait until the Job sit. is a lot better!!

 Sasquatch

 PS. We've been spending the wifes' "package" money for the project goodies,
     have to keep her busy with something ;^)

--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety."  B. Franklin
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From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: 39mm Fork Relief
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:22:34 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: terryg@stortek.com's message of 11 Nov 92 20:32:14 GMT

> Paul Blumstein (paulb@harley.tti.com) wrote:
: You really hate putting those fork caps back on after you change
: the fork oil, huh?  Pushing on that spring?  Cursing all the
: Anyway, they got for caps with threaded holes in them.  Dyna-style

These are the same caps used on the sport and conv models.  They just
have banjo bolts instead of allen head plugs.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: rea@den.mmc.com (Vince Rea)
Subject: fork size 
Originator: rea@avila
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:09:37 GMT



What size forks do sportsters have? 39mm?
The post on fork cap replacement seems like a good
idea. I would like to try it on my sporty.
thanks
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: XLH vs Big Twin
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:49:02 GMT

In article <Af0Yezq00WAEA0TFQP@andrew.cmu.edu> John Makel <jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Jim writes>>Well the way you frazed it any one on a sport bike is a
>tetesterone crazed
>idiot.
>1. I wear a two piece aerostich. Look like a goon. But I've already done
>my road pizza thang.
>2. I don't tell anyone else what to do, wear, say or post. But thats
>just me.
>
>  I did not mean to classify you or anyone who rides a sportbike as 
>a testosterone crazed idiot, I do not have any right to suggest what 
>you ride, how you ride or what you wear, that is your choice. I
>once owned a bike called a Hurricane, that was pretty fast, and yes
>I did drive fast, but I always wore my leathers. I used to race flat track
>in the 70's and learned the value of leather then. The article was to
>make people realize their vulnerability, and think.  I have met the 
>pavement more times than I care to think about, and the VW that
>pulled out in front of me and stopped while I was driving at 65mph
>also taught me something, WE are ALL flaunting with DEATH every time
>we go for a ride.
>  And finally, isn't great that even though we stand opposed on what
>each other rides, that we still have the thread of riding that binds us.
>Once again my apologies if I had offended you or Randy Davis, enjoy
>the group.
>				
>					
>						john...
 
JohnO no problemO.
I respect that there Hurricane.
As well as all bikes. <-- Disclaimer.
 
John is awarded two points for not saying: "Thats phrased not frazed".
Points may be traded for S&H green stamps.

 
================================================================================
 Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes 
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier)
Subject: Re: XLH questions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:30:28 GMT

root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:

>I've seen a recent post on the net discussing the XLH vs Big twin.
>the general opinion is that the sportster is uncomfortable for
>anything longer than 2-3 hours at a time.

>I'd like to know what is the reason behind this.
>Does the sporty shake more than the big twin?

The magnitude of the shake and the frequency of the shake both play
a role in the degree of sore but phenomenon.  The larger the the engine
, the larger the shake.  This would imply the 1340's have more shake, but
they are rubber mounted (some anyway), and run at a lower speed.  Generally
very very low speeds do not cause much problem.  as the speed increases
the effect of the vibration increases until it becomes very high.  Then the
effect decreases.  My experience has been that the 1340 gives the least
sore butt, then the 883, while the 1000 is the worst.  I haven't ridden
on a 1200.

>Is it the seat or riding position? (would a corbin help here?)
yes.  A corbin would help.  Harley often have hard seats that look good
but are terrible on the ride.  Seat position matters too, but I don't
know what makes it better or worse.
>Does it effect 6 footers & above more ?

>I'd really like to get a Harley in a few years, but I'm wondering
>if a have to go the serious bucks for a big twin right away.
>A big twin would be a goal for me , but I'm hoping I could get a sporty
>to be tolerable for longer rides.

A sporty is tolerable for long rides but you may need to slow down.  I've
found that I can ride all day at 60 mph on a 1000 all day, but at 75+ only
about 2-3 hours.  (non EVO).

>BTW, I'm talking about EVO sportys here.
>-----------------------------------------------------
>J.R. Ordon          '80 CB750C

Mark Blunier   '80 XLS '85 500 Shadow


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: terryg@stortek.com (Terry Gottehrer x4943)
Subject: Re: 39mm Fork Relief
Organization: StorageTek
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:32:14 GMT

Paul Blumstein (paulb@harley.tti.com) wrote:
: So, ya got 39mm forks, huh?  Ya do ya own maintenance, huh?
: You really hate putting those fork caps back on after you change
: the fork oil, huh?  Pushing on that spring?  Cursing all the
: time?  And you know the oil needs to be changed every 10k miles.
: Not only is it turning black, but the additives are just about
: used up.  WHAT'S A BIKER TO DO????
: 
This brings back such fond memories of the first time I did the
fork oil change. A lot of the F-words came out the mouth trying to
get  the left fork cap back on (that's why its called a "fork", right?)

After drinking a number of beers, I got the idea to mark the fork cap
where the threads caught in the fork tubes. I had already jacked the 
front of the frame up to extend the forks to max, leaving only ~2-3 inches
of spring to compress. The next time I pushed down on that spring,
I knew exactly what position the fork cap had to be in to make the
connection - presto, the tough part of the operation was complete.

That first side took a long time, since I wasn't prepared. Doing the 
second, though, took only about 15 minutes, most of which was letting
the oil drain out.
	
: Anyway, they got for caps with threaded holes in them.  And,
: there are allen head screws fitted in these holes.  So, when
: you change oil, you just remove the screws, add a funnel & pour.
: the screws go back on easily and you don't have a screen to
: push against.  it's too easy.  And the best thing?  these setups
: fit all 39mm forks.  i know... it works on mine.
: 
I thought about caps with threaded holes. Didn't the Harley engineers
ever change the fork oil in the labs? If they did, they would have 
thought of the threaded hole idea a long time ago.

: so, mosey on down to your dealer and have him (her?) pull out
: a dynaglide parts book.  you want 2 caps and two screws... the
: o-ring gaskets for the caps and screws come with them.  now, 
: wasn't that easy.  I suggest that you do it soon, in case he has
: to order one of these.
: 
Sounds like a great idea!!


Terry
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From: lahg8287@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lisa A. Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: honda 4 sale :)  :)
Keywords: i got it!
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:16:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxLzsA.Cxq
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


 finally decided i couldn't take not owning a harley for one more minute....

 I bought a '91 883 about a week ago, and it's been great.  I've had to impose
 on friends for babysitting services a ton (i'm a single mom) and have just
 about gotten frost-bite a few nights on longer rides!   :)

 Anyway... i found the bike ( with only 2500 miles on it) for a reasonable 
 price, but it does have one major flaw-  eagles on everything- so is there
 anyway to take these things off, or do i need to get new mirrors and gas cap
 and air cleaner cover....

 And the honda's for sale :)

 -totally elated
 the NukeEChick
-- 
lahg8287@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu          -The Nuke E chic
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley,tx.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Finally! I have it!
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:50:46 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <1992Nov5.170340.9297@spdc.ti.com> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>
>Hmmmmm.  Still looking at all the neat stuff.  The only thing I have decided on
>for sure is the screamin eagle for the front fender.  Been spending to much
>time riding it - NOT - to think about adding stuff to it. 
>

Does this make it go faster ?

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor DoD #981 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)              Heard on Radio 4:-
"One of the first signs of the male menopause is buying a Harley Davidson."
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
From: jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Makel)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: XLH vs Big Twin
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:14:55 GMT
	<1992Nov11.193146.3461@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Jim writes>>Well the way you frazed it any one on a sport bike is a
tetesterone crazed
idiot.
1. I wear a two piece aerostich. Look like a goon. But I've already done
my road pizza thang.
2. I don't tell anyone else what to do, wear, say or post. But thats
just me.

  I did not mean to classify you or anyone who rides a sportbike as 
a testosterone crazed idiot, I do not have any right to suggest what 
you ride, how you ride or what you wear, that is your choice. I
once owned a bike called a Hurricane, that was pretty fast, and yes
I did drive fast, but I always wore my leathers. I used to race flat track
in the 70's and learned the value of leather then. The article was to
make people realize their vulnerability, and think.  I have met the 
pavement more times than I care to think about, and the VW that
pulled out in front of me and stopped while I was driving at 65mph
also taught me something, WE are ALL flaunting with DEATH every time
we go for a ride.
  And finally, isn't great that even though we stand opposed on what
each other rides, that we still have the thread of riding that binds us.
Once again my apologies if I had offended you or Randy Davis, enjoy
the group.
				
					
						john...
Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA