HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:16:19 GMT

jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:

>Apparently you don't follow news, have a short  memory, or live in denial.
>A couple of years ago or so, Arafat did so.  The first day the US said
>that his  statements were not clear, the next day he was clearer on
>the issues of recognizing Israel on Occupied Palestine, and on
>renouncing terrorism. And accordingly the US opened dialog with the PLO.

On December 23, 1988, Arafat said "I didn't change my policy and
didn't surrender to the American demands and conditions.  The U.S. has
changed its policy."  Are you accusing Arafat of lying?

(Of course, I know he's a pathological liar, but you're trying to
defend him.)

Also, the subsequent epidemic of terrorist incidents against Israel
launched by various PLO factions, including Arafat's own Fatah,
clearly show that if Arafat actually said he was abandoning terrorism
then he was either deliberately lying or doesn't really lead the PLO.
Which is it?

>I hope you can do a little more research before throwing such
>senseless statements at us.

I've done my research.  How about you doing yours?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: rayes@Snake.mcs.kent.edu (Sandra Rayes)
Subject: Re: Muslim students of humanities
Organization: Kent State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:58:40 GMT

In article <nabeel.716188314@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:
>
>>In article <benali.716142832@alcor> benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA ) writes:
>
>>>Actually in some countries (such as Tunisia), there are atheists and
>>>communists who go to the school of theology and become religious
>>>education teachers.. I know that this might delight Martillo-like
>>>people, but the reason behind that is that most atheists and communists
>>>in Tunisia are lazy stupid people who could not make it to the other
>>>fields.
>
>>An excellently Freudian slip.  You just said religion is something at
>>which lazy stupid people excel.  I can agree with such a sentiment --
>>which is why I despise Abrahamic religion in all its putrid and
>>revolting forms.
>
>   Where did you get the word excel? All you can conclude is less than
>or equal to: teaching religion does not require that intelligence. And
>even here you can not make any assumption about the quality of that
>teaching, now, can you?

Before we get into any discourse on the ineffectiveness of Muslim
teachers of theology and comparative religion, may I remind the
brothers and sisters of this net of a *wonderfully* effective,
intelligent, well-read & well-studied Dr. Ahmad Deedat of South
Africa???  His specialty is comparative religion and he is 
particularly outstanding in his debates with various Christian
leaders.  I would recommend, if anyone has any doubts about
Muslims' ability to deal with such topics, to look into obtaining
Dr. Deedat's videos of debates, speeches, and books.

Sandra.


>**Nabeel
>
>   I am sorry to reply to a genius. If you had lived 1 billion years
>ago, you could have written history.
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Muslim students of humanities
Organization: Carleton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:11:54 GMT

martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:

>In article <benali.716142832@alcor> benali@alcor.concordia.ca ( ILYESS B. BDIRA ) writes:

>>Actually in some countries (such as Tunisia), there are atheists and
>>communists who go to the school of theology and become religious
>>education teachers.. I know that this might delight Martillo-like
>>people, but the reason behind that is that most atheists and communists
>>in Tunisia are lazy stupid people who could not make it to the other
>>fields.

>An excellently Freudian slip.  You just said religion is something at
>which lazy stupid people excel.  I can agree with such a sentiment --
>which is why I despise Abrahamic religion in all its putrid and
>revolting forms.

   Where did you get the word excel? All you can conclude is less than
or equal to: teaching religion does not require that intelligence. And
even here you can not make any assumption about the quality of that
teaching, now, can you?

**Nabeel

   I am sorry to reply to a genius. If you had lived 1 billion years
ago, you could have written history.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: merigh@cpac.washington.edu (Mohamed Merigh)
Subject: Re: Are Algerian people ARABIC ?????
Followup-To: soc.culture.arabic
Organization: Univ. of Washington, Seattle
	<3721@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>
	<MALEK.92Sep7201445@robroy.pi.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:33:44 GMT


 malek@pi.titech.ac.jp (Zidouri Abdelmalek 03/95) writes:

>  Basically all north Africa and its SAHARA has ARABIC as
>  the MOTHER tongue for the MAJORITY of the people.

   Can you support this claim with some evidence?

Moh&
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:3552 soc.culture.iranian:7760
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 11:25:01 EDT
From: <3XMQGAA@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Chief Palestinian negociator stroms out of peace negociations amid
Distribution: world

   What kind of B.S. lies is this???

--sari
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.fan.letterman,talk.bizarre
From: bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton)
Subject: Re: ARABS - TERRORISTS
Organization: Intel Corp., Chandler, Arizona
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:53:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.043901.19924@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu () writes:
)Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.fan.letterman,misc.test,talk.bizarre
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^
)In article <nabeel.716523056@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:
)>Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,alt.fan.letterman,misc.test,talk.bizarre
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^
)>
)>   This terrorism is caused and encouraged by the American
)>"peacefulness" that USA tried to export to V'nam, Iraq,
)>Granada, Panama, and everywhere else.
)>
)>   If USA stood firm and forgot about its disgraceful 
)>"peacefulness" everywhere would be peaceful.
)>
)>   Instead of bitching about this, why don't people like you
)>- Carrasso etc. - try to influence the American policy?
)>
)>
)>**Nabeel
)
)STAY THE HELL OUT OF AFL!
)If I want to read the sh*t in tb, I'll subscribe to it.
)
)jim, 6'2" and easily enraged
)ZZ
)^D
):wq
)/s

Nice .sig, Jimbo.

BTW, I'm six-eight, two-eighty.

(See?  ANYONE can write Lettermans's show.)

				--Blair
				  "I have no joke here;
				   I just like saying 'nabeel.'
				   'Nabeeeeeeeeeeeeeellll.'"
Xref: sparky soc.culture.arabic:3590 soc.culture.asean:6020 soc.culture.asian.american:8919
From: rahman@ces.cwru.edu (Rahman A. Soomro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Rain Relief Fund
Date: 9 Sep 1992 19:17:12 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: easy.ces.cwru.edu


Dear friends,

Recent rains in Pakistan have caused devastating effects on the 
daily life of the Pakistani people. Scores of people have lost there
lives and more than a million have been homeless.

	I appeal to you to help our brothers and sisters in need
and donate some money to help them. Please send your contribution
(tax deductible) with your name and also I request you to collect 
donations from any source -- your colleagues at work, friends, business
associates, customers, persons from any nationalities and backgrouds
to help people in trouble. 

	We are tying you help suffering peoples, who are suffering
from disease and malnutrition.

Please mail your contributions to:

Pakistan Rain Relief Fund
4105 Providence drive
St. Charles, MO 63304
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Clinton and the Mideast
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:37:32 GMT

rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached) writes:
#ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
##
##If it hadn't been for the Arab oil embargo the Carter years look pretty good.
##                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     ^^^^^^
#
#Forgive my ignorance but when did the arabs have an oil embargo against US in
#the days of Carter. The last oil embargo I heared of was at the time when King 
#Faysal did it. Faysal died long before Carter took office. Can you please
#refresh our memories ?

I also remember the embargo being earlier, but wasn't it during Carter's
years that the oil prices jumped like crazy? 

-Danny Keren.
From: svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu (Svilen Tzonev)
Subject: test  your IQ
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:37:44 GMT

This is just a small/stupid question...

What unifies all these newsgroups:

soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.portuguese,soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture 
brazil,soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.culture.netherlands ?

grin, Svilen
From: sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Sqedinenieto Sept. 06, 1885
Date: 8 Sep 1992 04:13:35 GMT
Organization: Lick Observatory UCSC
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

In article <92250.131121ANTHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ANTHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>Hi:
>   Nobody again mentioned the anniversary of the Unification of Bulgaria
>on September 06, 1885...

This gonzo is even worse than Hasan Mutlu.  He spreads hate, but he doesn't
have the guts to sign his name.

Brian Sutin				sutin@helios.ucsc.edu
Lick Observatory, UCSC			Santa Cruz, CA 95064
    Fred:   "May I rescue you?"
    Ginger: "No, thank you.  I prefer being in distress."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: ttonchev@athena.mit.edu (Theodore G Tonchev)
Subject: Re: Another source of daily news
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 21:32:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.175226.24389@midway.uchicago.edu>, dim2@quads.uchicago.edu (Alexander Dimitrov) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep6.015052.23359@athena.mit.edu> ttonchev@athena.mit.edu (Theodore G Tonchev) writes:
|> >
|> >	I am sorry if the following text contains something trivial-
|> >I am just a new reader of this conference.
|> >about Bulgaria. However, there is another one - the conference 
|> ><clari.news.gov.international> offers official dayly news from the whole world
|> >incl. Bulgaria. For example one of the two most recent informations is 
|> >the following:
|> [stuff deleted]
|> 
|> That is very kind of you. Unfortunately not all of us have access to this
|> newsgroup, which is possibly commercial. Is it possible that you post extracts
|> from there in this group from time to time? It would be most interesting!

	Being a comparatively new user of the computer facilities here, I had
not noticed the obvious fact that <clari.news.gov.international> is 
a ClariNet conference and that it would not be available to many users. If this
is really the case, I will post the more interesting articles in this
conference. Please, let me know if that is an 'irregular action'.
	For the ones that can access ClariNet I'll just add that the conference
<clari.news.hot.east_europe> may of interest as well.
	The second recent article I wrote about is more entertaining than serious
as you can see:


|> Article: 23259 of clari.news.gov.international
|> From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
|> 
|> 	SOFIA, Bulgaria (UPI) -- A passenger on a Bulgarian airline flight
|> from Thailand to Vietnam parachuted from the airplane over Vietnamese
|> territory, news reports and airline officials said Saturday.
|> 	The Jes Air airlines Airbus-300 was flying from Bangkok, Thailand to
|> Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Friday when one of the passengers forced the
|> crew to open one of the doors, said an airline official.
|> 	The passenger, who appeared to be Vietnamese, threw out leaflets and
|> then jumped out with a parachute over Vietnamese territory on, the
|> official said.
|> 	There were no casualties, officials said. No other details were
|> immediately available.

----------------

           Theodore Tonchev             |       450 Memorial Drive  C213
        ttonchev@athena.mit.edu         |         Cambridge   MA 02139
 Massachusetts Institute of Technology  |         tel:  (617) 225-9385
From: sculver@world.std.com (Sandy Culver)
Subject: Need info on graduate programs in Bulgarian Studies
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:09:02 GMT

                                      
I am looking for information, leads or formal contacts for a 
graduate program in Bulgarian studies.  Also, does anyone know
where in the US one can study the Bulgarian language.  This search
for information is for my niece, a graduate from Smith College who
would like to begin graduate studies and to again travel and
study in Bulgaria.

I can be reached at this address: sculver@world.std.com
As appropriate, I will exchange contact information that is
suggested on the internet.

Thanks,

Sandy Culver 
-- 
Mr. Sandy Culver                  sculver@world.std.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: PETROV@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Ivan Petrov)
Subject: Some more September dates
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11
Organization: Materials Research Laboratory Center for Computation, UOFI
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:39:18 GMT

Did you forget the glorious 9th (Slavniya Deveti)?

And also the 7th of September. Comrade Jivkov turned 80.
If it wasn't for the 10th (of November) he would have gotten
his 7th "Hero of the People's Republic". In stead he got 7 years.
What a coincidence.

"September will be May". I heard this line from the old
proletariate poetry in Sofia, quoted by some people of 
the opposition, forcasting the fall of the blue goverment.
Take care
Ivan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Ivan
From: Hjalmar Dijkstra <A512HJAL@HASARA11.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 12 Sep 1992 23:55:08 CET
Organization: SARA - Stichting Academisch Rekencentrum Amsterdam

Dora,
I think your Austalian newspaper was accurate enough about the bulgarian
economy. Is is in utter shambles. The factories are running out of funds to
pay their workers. the government first gave credit to the companies in order
to pay the wages, they kind of stopped doing that right now.
The only light shimmering on the horizon is the "restitutia". there are now
plenty of small shops which are filled ( clothes, whisky etc.)
Hopefully the government will finally devaluate the lev so some companies can
start exporting again. Right now most stufproduced in Bulgaria is too expensive
for the quality.
I won't give up hope.
 
vsichko houbovo  Hjalmar
From: rsakella@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Another famous date - the 6th of September 1885
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:10:56 GMT

Luben Boyanov (lb@cs.man.ac.uk) writes:

>As far as I remember the 6th of September is the date for celebrating the
>Union of Bulgaria with East Roumelia. In older books the date given is the
>18th of September 1885 (old style) and going to "new style" it should be
>the 5th of September, but I remember it being the 6th :-(. Can anybody
>there correct me (or explain where I'm wrong?).

The old style calendar is today 13 days behind the new one. So if the date
18/9/1885 refers to the old style, at the new style it should be 
30/9/1885 (For the 19th century, the difference new - old calendar 
was 12 days; this difference results because according to the new style 
calendar the year 1900 was not a leap year, while for the old it was). 
However, many authors have converted old dates to the new calendar, so 
I presume that the 18th of September 1885 is given according to the new 
style. In this case, the original old-style date is 6/9/1885, so you 
remember right.

Hope it helps!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: bliznako@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Bliznakov, Plamen)
Subject: News from late August Bulgarian newspapers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:12:00 GMT

In the late August newspapers I got recently, I saw the following 
info which might be of interest:

Ahmed Dougan (the leader of MRF, the Turkish minority party) and several
other leaders of MRF spent their vacation in Turkey. They had meetings
with Turkish officials and were promised economical and financial aid for 
the regions in Bulgaria inhabited with ethnic Turks. This aid aims to
reduce the amount of Turks leaving Bulgaria, thus both decreasing the
problems of Turkish authorities with the immigrants from Bulgaria, and
preventing MRF from loosing its influence in Bulgaria.

There is a discussion between Mr. Ivan Kostov, Minister of Finance, and
Mr. Todor Vulchev, President of the Bulgarian National Bank, on the
currency policy of BNB. Mr. Kostov wants the bank not to intervene on
the currency exchange market and let the rate of hard currencies lower
(it is expected 1 $ to be rated at about 20 BGL from the current level of 
22+ BGL). BNB states that it should not allow sharp changes in the exchange
rate and buy dollars now, while selling them in the winter, when the demand
for hard currency will be higher (purchases of oil and energy).
Mr. Kostov also wants lowering of the interest rates.

It seems there are tensions in the government coalition (SDS). Some
newspapers name Ilko Eskenazi as a possible future Prime Minister.
Also some say Elka Konstantinova, the leader of the Radical Democratic
Party, will somehow be dismissed from the government, possibly, by
changing her Ministry of Culture to a Committee for Culture.

Patriarch Maxim asked President Zhelju Zhelev for support against
representatives of the new Synod, concurring monasteries and churches.

Both the old and new Synods attended a liturgy in Rila monastery in honor
of Tsar Boris III. Monchs of Rila monastery support the old Synod headed
by Patriarch Maxim.

President Zhelju Zhelev fired his aide on foreign affairs Zdravko Popov
who visited Lebanon privately and met officials there without 
authorization. Mr. Popov was accused by some newspapers in representing 
the Bulgarian defense industry. It might be a coincidence, but during the
same period of time President Zhelev postponed his visit to Israel.
The visit of Zdravko Popov was used by Filip Dimitrov to request his
dismissal, which was done by the President 2 days after Zdravko Popov came
back and reported him about the visit.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 14:33:20 EDT
From: <IO11273@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Another source of daily news

Zdravej Theodore,
This news group - the one which is a conference at clari.news.gov.international
is it a listserv that you have to suscribe to or you can download information
files?
I tried to ftp to the site clarinet.com but was not allowed so may be it
is subscription archive.
Thanks for the info in advance.
Nikolay
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IO11273@maine.maine.edu
guenov97@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu
nguenov@watson.eece.maine.edu

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Mili "dobrojelateli"
From: <ANTHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 11 Sep 1992 00:23:48 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi:
   To such a nice people like Robert Maxuell (the famous publisher of

the genius Todir Tzivkov), Armond Hamer (who helping Lenin made FOUR

BILLION DOLLARS starting from ONE BIG zaro and who helped Russia of

Dostoevski and Tchaikovski to become one of the poorest countries

in the world) and packs of blood suckers that used to make good deals

with the former communists regime in Bulgaria the common people say

                       M E R C I

                    TESHEKUR EDERIM

 Gladni dobrojelatelyu.

    Today every baby in Bulgaria has $50,000 foreign debt to pay back from the

greed of such a nice helpers.  Today Bulgaria needs expertise in the economy

and technology to enter the world of free enterprise not musicians and CD

speculants.

    Why all my posting concerning economy are erased right away from the Net?

The administrators of the Net didn't know anything about that.  So someone

is privatly censoring the postings.  Why?  Because there are people that

still suck blood from Bulgaria.
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Another source of daily news
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:54:10 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

In article <1992Sep6.175226.24389@midway.uchicago.edu> dim2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>That is very kind of you. Unfortunately not all of us have access to this
>newsgroup, which is possibly commercial.

It is. Our sysadm told me that there is a fee to be paid for subscription.
But the news from there  is very good.

> Is it possible that you post extracts
>from there in this group from time to time? It would be most interesting!

That will be great, however, I reckon that this must be done on the email
list as reposting clari news on this forum may be not "healthy" for the one
who does it ...

>Regards,
>Alex

Luben
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: stoyani@pell2l20.alleg.edu (Ivailo Stoyanov)
Subject: Re:Bulgaria-France 2:0
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:53:19 GMT

Many thanks to everybody who posted details for the match.

Ivo
From: vassil@mary-ann.cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Some sport news
Keywords: soccer, tennis
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:04:04 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

Here's some info from rec.sport.soccer:

Europe Group 6
==============

Bulgaria      2   France         0
Finland       0   Sweden         1

		P W D L  F  A Pts
Bulgaria        2 2 0 0  5  0  4
Sweden          1 1 0 0  1  0  2
Austria         0 0 0 0  0  0  0
Israel          0 0 0 0  0  0  0
France          1 0 0 1  0  2  0
Finland         2 0 0 2  0  4  0

I'll repost any match reports that may be posted in r.s.s.

Also, Manuela Maleeva advanced to the semi-finals of the US Open, after
defeating Magdalena Maleeva in the quarter-final. Earlier Magdalena defeated
Navratilova.

Vassil
---
Vassil Peytchev
vassil@cs.wisc.edu
From: sava@lanix.UUCP (Sava Sotirov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Help to establish contact with Twin Falls, ID, USA
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 23:37:47 EDT
Organization: Lanix OOP, Burgas, Bulgaria

                Hi, dear friends !
        Could anyone help me to establish contact with town Twin Falls, ID

83 301 ? If E-mail contact is impossible, may I send my e-mail messages to

(208) 734 5663? This is Phone/fax.

        Thanks in advance.

        Sava Sotirov, Burgas, Bulgaria

e-mail sava@lanix.uucp, voice 359-56-23.555