HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: UW: Won't Install !#$?%!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:48:11 GMT

ajl9@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron J Lebovitz) writes:
>mchapin@cse.unl.edu (Mark Chapin) writes:
>>
>>>I received Ultima Underworld yesterday.  I stuck in disk 1 and typed install.
>>>I answer all the questions and it starts the install.  It then asked for
>>>disk 2, so I put's in Mr. drive and push a key, and wolla, it keeps asking
>>>for disk 2.
>
>I solved the problem by just disabling my disk cache when I booted;

Mark:

The problem you are having is that your machine is not recognizing
the disk change.  This could be caused by a cache that keeps the
floppy drive's info in memory (as happened with Aaron) or your floppy
drive's cable might not be fully connected (one of the lines is a
diskette change line that tells your controller that the disk was
removed and another one has been put in).

Hope that helps.

Steve Smith
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Civilization
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:55:36 GMT
X-Bytes: 

Harro van Voorst writes
> Hello,
> 
> Whenever I change to democracy, I get civil disorder in almost every city.
> I have built pyramids, but still...  disorder! I've tried other government
> types, s.a. communism, monargy and I didn't get disorder, or in a lesser
> degree.
> 
> What am I doing wrong? Maybe too few improvements to make people happy?
> Most of the time I only have a temple in each city.
> 
> Please help me, because I want to keep everyone as happy as possible!

This may be in part to an odd "feature" of civilization... It seems that even  
though I build the Pyramids, unless I actually RESEARCH Democracy, my  
government collapses. I always build temples (then usually cathedrals, but  
these usually only help in large cities [>6 or so]), and Mike's Chapel and  
Bach's Cathedral, etc.. Everything to keep the people happy, but the government  
still collapses UNLESS I research Democracy.
But this sounds like you're people are just plain miserable.. :)

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From: mfrog@wpi.WPI.EDU (Kermit Bierut)
Subject: Hero's Quest I
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:11:33 GMT

I am currently playing a magic user and have run into trouble and need help.

How do you get into the Hermit's cave?  I have tried climbing and all of the
spells I have and nothing has worked.  Open does open the door but then the
door closes.


I also cannot figure out how to get the green fur of the Meep.  I have tried
spells and even lifting the rock but nothing works.


Any Help would be appreciated


The Masked Frog
Kermit Bierut
From: gmii@ocf.berkeley.edu (German Mendoza)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: EOB2 maps
Date: 7 Apr 1992 18:30:20 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

Does anybody know the ftp site for EOB2 maps??     

Please email me.

Thanks!

German Mendoza
gmii@ocf.Berkeley.Edu
From: tonyp@next1.cs.umr.edu (Tony Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Wasteland
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:34:20 GMT


Hello, there...  I have a question I hope you can help me with.

Anyone out there played Wasteland?  If so, I'm stuck.  Here's the 
details.

I was killed in Finster's Mind Maze by the last Finster robot, Finster
Laviathon.  Now I can't get the Secpass B from him to raid the
Armory at the sleeper base.  Heck, I can't even get the guy out of  
there and send in another character to finish Finster off.

If anyone knows how to fix this, or if there's a character editor for
wasteland out there, could you please let me know??

Respond to:  S102066 @ UMRVMA.UMR.EDU, NOT TO THIS LIST.  I rarely have
time to read news.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Running games on MS Windows
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:36:39 GMT

horan@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>I have Windows 3.0 and OS/2 1.3.  Both of these versions need full
>screen as far as I can tell, but both upgrades (3.1 and 2.0
>respectively) can do it windowed as far as I have heard.  With the
>versions I have, I run games while doing something else (multitask..)
>In Windoze, just by haveing other apps open, not even doing anything
>intensive, the game is very choppy and slow (Celtics vs. Lakers, an
>ega, reletavely simple game).  With OS/2, I can D O W N L O A D,
>FORMAT DISKS, and play the game much more smoothly, at the same time.

>need I say more.

Yeah, say that you're going to upgrade to OS/2 2.0!  Multiple DOS
windows, and almost completely uncrashable.  You can run Falcon 3.0
under it, plus Ultima Underworld, Commander Keen, etc.
-- 
The flush toilet is the basis of Western civilization.  -- Alan Coult
From: x86baumstark@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: UW: Found Princess now what?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:07:34 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Spoilers Possibley follow .....


























     Ok,  I killed the wizard ,  I got two keys from him. neither one of which
letg me get the princess released.  How the heck do you open the porkulus to
release the princess.?  Is is possible.?

     Also I can't seem to get into several areas of level seven. There are
several doors that I have no keys for. are there secret doors around.  ?
I can't get into the door on the bridge in the north over the lava river across
from the enterance to the maze.  Also the door that leads into a lava room with
traps.

any help will be apreaciated much.  thank you.


MJB
 oom


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From: hnguyen@hob1.prime.com (Hien Huu Nguyen)
Subject: Re: UW finished/review/observations
Reply-To: hnguyen@hob1.prime.com (Hien Huu Nguyen)
Organization: Prime Computer
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:07:07 GMT


Several observation in response to complaints about UW.

1) Hard to control.
   Am I the only one who uses the keys A,S,D,X,and W to move?  I find
that it is much easier to control when moving fast.  For precise movement,
such as on ledges, I use the mouse.

2) Waiting for repair.
   It may not be apparent, but using the anvil takes up a lot of game
time.  For instances, trying to repair a mail shirt took almost 1 hour
of game time.  So instead of twidlling your thumb waiting for Shak to
fix that Sword of Justice, pick up a useless weapon and try to repair it. 
If your skill is not high enough, you can damage the item, so do it 
on somthing you don't need.

3) One weekend's entertainment?????
   Yeah, if you play 24hr a day.  By my recolection, each level is taking
around 5 hours each.  Even replaying level 1 took 3 hours.  Therefore, 
the game should take ~40 hours to complete.  Sure, I'd love for it to
be twice as long, but its has to be another 40 interesting hours.  So far,
for me atleast, its been interesting.  I get much more of a feeling of
being IN the game, than say Might and Magic III.

4) More items.
   This would have been nice, as long as it wasn't like those found
in MM3 (i.e. randomly generated combinations, like "leather plate armor",
"wooden scimitar" etc...). What I want is a progression of more useful, 
unique, items.  The main problem with those currently found is that there 
are only a few.

5) Level advancements and difficulty level.
   This is a bummer too. One of the distinguishing trademarks of FRP is
character advancements.  Since encounters are not ramdom, I don't see why
a limit exists.  The designer should know, at least better that games with
randomn encounters, what level the adventurer is, and should plan encouters
appropriately.  As it is, the game is a bit too easy when it comes to combat.
Sure, in a couple of instance (the Chaos Knight for one), I came close to dying.
But I think such things should happen more often.  It keeps you on your toe.

Enough said.  In summary, I like the game.  Certain aspects could be better.
Still, I feel I've gotten my money worth a couple of levels ago (I'm on 6th).
Oh, one last note.  To those who don't have the horsepower to run the game,
put up or shut up.  I hate to flame, but I'm sick of people complaining
about how much CPU/disk/etc.. Origin games take.  Other companies are
catering to the Least Common Denominator, buy from them.  If Oringin goes 
bankrupt, THEN feel free to say "I told you so".  Until then, let those
who can play these games do so in peace.  Thanks for letting get that off
my chest.



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Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: jpclark@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jeffrey Paul Clark)
Subject: Re: Ultima
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:30:18 GMT

white@watsci.uwaterloo.ca (Brad White) writes:

>I would appreciate if someone could clarify this for me.  I understand that
>Ult 1-3 were a series that had to be played sequentially.  Same for 4-6.  
>	Can someone who has never played 1-6 start with Ult 7?  I have read
>that it is a whole new engine etc. and i want to try it out, but i have
>heard this is difficult if you dont know the history of the game.
>	Any help would be appreciated.
>Brad


Though Ultima 1-3 and 4-6 were a "series" you do not have
to play them in order.

(I played 3 then 4 jumped back to 2 then 1 while waiting for 5 
 to come out, and just finished 6)

You can usually use the same character in between games, but 
you don't have to.  (I almost always erase Ultima from my
hard disk when I finish and use a new character when each
new games comes out.)

You should have no problem playing Ultima 7 when it comes out.

(Note, I have not actually seen Ultima 7 so I don't have any
 "proof" that you don't need previous games.  But from past
 preformance I would be VERY suprised if I were wrong.)

-- 

Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: cs260171@ucs.usl.edu (Tangjarukij Montri)
Subject: Games for sale
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:10:26 GMT



       Games for sale:          
      
       Ultima Underworld      45 $
       SimAnt                 28 $
       Conquest of Long Bow   30 $ 
  
       I'll pay for shipping.              


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From: mnrausch@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Martin Rausche)
Subject: spell list (was: UW mantra list)
Keywords: UW
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:25:26 GMT

shieh@acsu.buffalo.edu (Geoffrey S. Shieh) writes:

>Someone posted these before:
[mantra list deleted :-]

It would be nice to get a list of all spells in the game,
especially those which are not in the manual. Anyone who
has finished the game? What about a spell list? :-)

Martin.

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From: horan@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Running games on MS Windows
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:53:11 GMT

In article <rdippold.703196832@cancun>, rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
> egp41980@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M) writes:
>>I have a question for all the Windows 3.0 (3.1) gurus:
>>Is it possible to run games (with vga graphics) through a window
>>on Windows? I'm not talking about the whole screen mode, I mean in
>>a little 320*200 window on the desktop. I tried running Star Trek
>>the 25th off of my father's 486, but the game would choke up after
>>opening a window, giving some sort of error. Is it at all possible
>>to run games in this way?
> 
> Yes, with 3.1 (I don't believe 3.0 allows VGA in a window).  However,
> Windows 3.1 is not all that robust.  Most games seem to crash it
> damned fast.  They work under OS/2, though.

I have Windows 3.0 and OS/2 1.3.

Both of these versions need full screen as far as I can tell, but both upgrades
(3.1 and 2.0 respectively) can do it windowed as far as I have heard.

With the versions I have, I run games while doing something else (multitask..)
In Windoze, just by haveing other apps open, not even doing anything intensive,
the game is very choppy and slow (Celtics vs. Lakers, an ega, reletavely simple
game).  With OS/2, I can D O W N L O A D, FORMAT DISKS, and play the game much
more smoothly, at the same time.

need I say more.

5000
Gregg Horan
From: tozz@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Bob Tausworthe)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:02:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: UW cheats?
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc

>-Does anyone know if killing friendlies has a tangible effect on
>your ability to finish the game?  After I got the sword of Justice
>I went on a killing spree.  I killed all the goblins and humans on
>level 1, all the dwarves on level 2, all the lizardmen, and all 
>the trolls on level 4 before I got bored.  I hadn't gained much
>experience, but it was fun.  I didn't save because I didn't know
>if it would mess me up later.  (I'd done all the quests on those
>levels though.)
>
   According to the book, killing friendlies reduces your "charm" skill,
   and may reduce your EP too. Other than that, I don't know if it does
   anything else.

			  tozz
From: jim.kesselring@cccbbs.UUCP (Jim Kesselring)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: SWOTL EXPANSION DISK INFO
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:06:00 GMT
Reply-To: jim.kesselring@cccbbs.UUCP (Jim Kesselring)
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248

Do you have a copy of the new updates......  I have SWOtL
and would like to trade for something else......(grin)
Jim....the software theif....
                                                                                                                 
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: wanderer@leland.Stanford.EDU (Anthony William Cannon)
Subject: Re: Emacs anyone? (was UW: Stuck on level 7)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 03:16:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.224705.1331@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> jpclark@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jeffrey Paul Clark) writes:
>dmoen@tcs.com (Dan Moen) writes
>
>Sora off topic, but can someone tell me how to generate the
>^L stop while in EMACS?  
>
>Jeff Clark 
>
>  jpclark@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
>
>/-----------------[Work in Progress]----------------------------\
>| Its not that I really like EMACS.  Its that I really hate VI. |
>\---------------------------------------------------------------/

Just use the ctrl+q to tell emacs that you want the next character
to be something other than an escape sequence (boy, I hope this
works...)



See!  Wow!  Neat!
You can also do this to make:
[4mReally Neat Underlined/Bold Text![m (depending on what your terminal does)

Anthony Cannon (who's working on a new .sig)

Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: daneman@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Michael J. Daneman)
Subject: Re: UW: where'd Judy go?.. and looking for key
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:19:04 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR A SEX GAME
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Keywords: 


Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Start Trek 25th for trade
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Keywords: 

I would like to trade Star Trek 25th Aniversary Game for
Ultima Underworld.

If interested mail to daneman@cory.berkeley.edu

-Mike.

Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: s9971818@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (S9971818)
Subject: Pangitzu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 04:16:00 GMT

I've seen a few posts  about this game, but I just have to know...

What is this game?  (Puzzle, action, adventure, etc.)
Please respond by e-mail, if possible.  Thanks in advance!

-=> Jonathan <=-
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Devin Ben-Hur)
Subject: Wanted: Oh No, More Lemmings
Organization: Are you kidding?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:44:43 GMT


Anyone have a copy of the extra levels data disk for Lemmings for IBM-PC
they would like to sell me?
-- 
Devin Ben-Hur        503/590-0125
drazil@qiclab.scn.rain.com
"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty"
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Civilization: Sieges
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:36:27 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon

[]

	"If you are at peace with a Civ and try to move a military unit
	onto a square that it is producing, it will warn you that you
	are about to break the peace."

Not quite.  You get the warning when you try to move onto an improved
square (one with road, irrigation, mine, etc.), whether or not it's
producing.  If you confront a civ like the Mongols who don't go in for
improvements, you can besiege them without breaking the peace.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: mcrosby@isis.cs.du.edu (Matthew Crosby)
Subject: Re: UW: Lurkers and BUG comments
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 23:32:56 GMT

In article <dwwjq7a.primus@netcom.com> primus@netcom.com (Robert keng) writes:
>
>			Same things happened to me, as well as some other
>bugs (Ultima Underworld). One time, when I restored my game, i found out
>that some things in my inventory was missing (i.i. gold crown, rubys). Thank
>god that nothing that was of any importance disappeared... Also, one time,
>I found a breast plate on a little isle on level 3, and I marked it down on
>my map and decided to come back later for it. I left a long sword with the
>breast plate. When I came back for it, it disappeared, along with the breastplate, so I assumed that maybe it was washed away... I don't know....

Boy, what is it with that island?  MY strange experience:  I was wandering 
around looking for the sword and/or the lizarmans remains, and I saw this
island.  I had already been there, so I was amazed that it had all this stuff
on it!  I went over and had a look...and the first thing I picked up was the
gem cutter!  I thought "That's strange!", and looked at it some more, before
I realized that it was a carbon copy of my inventory.  Even wierder then that,
the objecst where linked with my inventory directly--when I put something in
my hand, I actually saw the equivalent on the island disapear!!!  Furthermore,
when I picked something up and put it in my inventory...both items disapeared!
Luckily my game was saved, but still...  (Oh, btw, the breastplate was still
there)

--
-Matt
mcrosby@nyx.cs.du.edu   ...uunet!isis!nyx!mcrosby
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Wing Commander II
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:35:06 GMT

Hello all. Before downloading the 3 Megs of demo for Wing Commander II,
I noticed that SoundBlaster is required. But I hear the the real Wing
Commander II doesn't have to have a SoundBlaster (ie. PC speaker is fine
but have no speech that's all). Does anyone have a Wing Commander II
demo that doesn't need a soundcard (since I'm, waiting for Adlib Gold to
come out and Sound Blaster Pro II because I suspect that the sound card
market will be very competetive and will change dramatically once these
two comes out. So I'm holding off for now). I want to be sure I like it
before plunging my money down and clearing 15 Megs off my harddrive for
a real version. Thanks. 

Did someone say that we should wait for Jetfighter II or some such which
will blow WCII and Falcon 3 away?

Thomas.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 12:35:11 EDT
From: <CDH109@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Prince Of Persia: Help With Level 12

To get past shadow in Prince of Persia:


The shadow man will do whatever you do.

Do you know all the sword fighting commands?  Ever notice that you can
put your sword away by pressing the down arrow key?  To get past him you
must do this, then run towards him.  You'll recombine with him.  Congrats,
your almost finished the game.



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From: reynolds@park.bu.edu (John Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Falcon 3.0 COMMS mode.
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:03:28 GMT
	<1992Mar31.152119.4587@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
Organization: Boston University Center for Adaptive Systems
In-reply-to: srchurch@dahlia.waterloo.edu's message of 31 Mar 92 15:21:19 GMT


I have successfully connected over the modem using patch A and patch
C.  Unfortunately it often takes several tries (several times I have
just waited for the other person to connect, while he was doing the
same as I was) and it takes about 3-5 minutes to successfully connect.
That means that you'd better hope you don't get shot down early, or
you've wasted alot of time!  

-John
--
-John
reynolds@cns.bu.edu

Ligneous and petrous projectiles can potentially fracture my osseous 
structure, but pejorative appellations will forever remain innocuous.
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