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From: MADFOX@AppleLink.Apple.Com (Mike Fox)
Newsgroups: ba.sports
Subject: Re: Help - Used Sports Equipment Store
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:52:08 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

The name of the store is "Play It Again Sports".   They sell new and used 
sporting goods and will buy your used goods or take them in on 
consignment.  The Sunnyvale store is located on El Camino between Lawrence 
Expressway and Wolfe Road.  There is another store on Blossom Hill towards 
101.  These are independently owned franchises so I'm not sure what 
relation they have for tracking down unique used items.  You can find some 
interesting used goods in the stores at reasonable prices.  I know this 
info because a friend owns the store on Blossom Hill.
Newsgroups: ba.sports
From: mike@hyperion.Berkeley.EDU (Mike Dove)
Subject: AVP Pro Beach on Cable, where can I find it?
Reply-To: mike@hyperion.Berkeley.EDU (Mike Dove)
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:15:09 GMT

I am on Heritage Cablevision/TCI down in the San Jose and am trying to find
the AVP Pro Beach Volleyball coverage on cable.  In previous years, 
PSN (Pacific Sports Network) covered it, but when they merged with
SportsChannel Bay Area, this coverage seems to have been lost in the shuffle.

Is it there and I am just missing it, or has it surfaced somewhere else I
might be able to get so that I can satisfy my desire to watch?

Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated...

-- 
Mike Dove					Email: mike@MicroUnity.com
MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc.		Phone: 408-734-8100 x313
255 Caspian Way, Sunnyvale, CA			  Fax: 408-734-8136
Newsgroups: ba.sports,rec.skiing
From: narayan@everest.tandem.com (Pankaj Narayan)
Subject: ? GOOD Water Skiing Lakes ?
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:52:52 GMT

Hi,
 
I'm looking for a good lake in California to go water skiing
on. I've never been and my brother (from out of state) wants
to know where a good lake is. Preferred location is mid-southern
CA. I'm interested in a lake without too much wind and one where
the water level isn't too low.

I don't have regular access to the net so please e-mail replies
to lewis_gary@tandem.com.

Thanks,
Gary

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Tandem Computers			Voice: 408 285 6047 (work)  
19333 Vallco Pkwy, Loc 3-06		Voice: 408 243 5459 (home)
From: mikeh@Auspex.COM (Mike Haley)
Newsgroups: ba.sports
Subject: Help - Used Sports Equipment Store
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:42:04 GMT
Distribution: ba

A couple of weeks ago I saw a blurb on the news about a new
store in the Bay Area (sunnyvale?) that sells used sports
equipment. Does anyone know the name/location of this place?
Thanks.

-mike
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Van Morrison ticket for sale (Friday night!)
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:18:50 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

Unfortunately, my SO can't make it to the Van Morrison concert tonight,
so we have a ticket to sell.  It's Y-124, not great.  Face value is
$34.75, which we'll take.  You can pick up the ticket in Berkeley
anytime today before the concert.  Call me at 510-849-8214 or send mail
to muffy@mica.berkeley.edu.

Muffy
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Muffy Barkocy                             muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
~Little round planet/in a big universe/sometimes it looks blessed/
 sometimes it looks cursed/Depends on what you look at, obviously/
 But even more it depends on the way that you see~ - Bruce Cockburn
From: pistol@lissette.nsc.com (Pete Turrini)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Upcomming BLACKSTORM show
Keywords: blackstorm
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:30:22 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

Hello,
   South bay band BLACKSTORM featuring KSJO guitar contest winner David Matela!!
will be playing a special show in Newark.  
  
                           BLACKSTORM  April 25, 1992
                           Swiss Park Hall in Neward 
 (exit of 880 in Newark at Mowry West then first right turn to Swiss Park Hall)

                             doors open at 8 pm.

                   Also playing local all girl band   V.O.S.

                      and  local act            Beggar's Opera

   Hope to see you there!!!!

Thank you, Pistol
Newsgroups: ba.music
From: chansen@borland.com (Craig Hansen-Sturm)
Subject: ===> FOR SALE:  Korg M1REX, Alesis QUADRAVERB
Followup-To: chansen@borland.com
Keywords: Korg M1REX, Alesis QUADRAVERB
Organization: Borland International
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:28:34 GMT

For Sale:

  Korg M1REX (rack mount M1 with the T1 Sound Roms + extra RAM)
  $900  

  Alesis Quadraverb+ (4 simultaneous effects: ring modulator, detune,
  chorus, delays, reverb, eq, ...)
  $300

Both of these units are completely defect free and are in excellant
condition.

Contact:

  Craig Hansen-Sturm
  408-439-1497 (work)
  408-476-3957 (home)
  chansen@borland.com
Newsgroups: ba.music,rec.music.makers,rec.music.bluenote
From: sanders@netcom.com (Robert Sanders)
Subject: Best Band Contest (Bay Area) in Willow Glen
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 20:07:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

There's a contest going on for good blues bands.
Word has it it's in Willow Glen at the Players
Bar and Grill on Lincoln near corner of Curtner.

First round this Sunday, April 12, from 7 p.m. till
about 11 p.m.  Three bands, emceed by Jammin'
Jim Farris, who is moving the contest from its
former venue of the Hard Disk Cafe/Saloon in
Sunnyvale.  Other rounds every other Sunday.

Our band is up this weekend, so come on out.  More
importantly, your band can come out, too.  Contact
Jim at the club.

Disclaimer:  this is a new venue and i can't vouch
for the ambience or clientele or anything . . .

a hawkeye
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Newsgroups: ba.music,rec.music.folk
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: The place to be on May Evening
Keywords: concert, may, morris
Reply-To: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: ba
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:49:40 GMT

Berkeley Morris presents:

                             BRINGING IN THE MAY
                       A Celebration in dance and song
                       -------------------------------

Traditional music, not-so-traditional music, Morris dancing, other kinds of
dancing, sing-alongs, and lots of surprises.  All together in one place...

                       The Fellowship of Humanity Hall
          411 28th Street (between Telegraph and Broadway), Oakland
                        Friday, the First of May, 8:00 

Featuring these fine performing groups:

BERKELEY MORRIS         Doing the dance as old as May itself (nudge,
                        nudge).  Berkeley Morris will be making numerous
                        free appearances throughout the Bay Area during
                        the spring; see a separate posting for details,
                        and for an explanation of what Morris dancing is.

FRENCH CREEK            Traditional French and Celtic music, all the way
                        from the Sierra foothills.  French Creek is:
                           Alan Beilharz: mandolin
                           GF Cloud: guitar
                           Penny Cloud: hurdy-gurdy
                           Dorothy Hawkinson: fiddle

MARCH HARE              Proto-modern Eurobeat folk fusion.  We don't know
                        what it means either.  The Berkeley Morris Band
                        goes feral in its first aboveground appearance.
                        March Hare is:
                           Claire Beilharz: dulcimer
                           Jon Berger: fiddle, electric and acoustic mandolins
                           Avis Minger: fiddle
                           James Jacobs: cello, bass, recorder

OAK, ASH, and THORN     Jovial British Isles entertainment, a capella
                        (some call it "singing without music").  Songs in
                        riotous harmony about drinking and other country
                        matters.  OAT is:
                           Dale Hill: vocals
                           Doug Olsen: vocals
                           Dave Swan: vocals
                           Tom Wagner: vocals


Need more details?  Contact me by email.
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Jon Berger     jonb@ingres.com     {mtxinu,sun,amdahl,pyramid}!ingres!jonb
"If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." 
                                         -- Fudd's First Law of Opposition
From: lburns@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Lisa Burns)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Want to buy speakers
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:39:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino

I would like to buy a pair of SHURE or other PA speakers.  We need ones
which are under 3 feet tall.

Please respond to my e-mail:
	lburns@cup.hp.com 

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Lisa Burns
From: pdavid@blowfish.mips.com (Paul C. David)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Van Morrison tickets
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:17:32 GMT
Organization: Ha!
NNTP-Posting-Host: blowfish.mips.com

I must have slept through the announcement of his three shows at BCT.  If anyone
has two tickets for sale, please lemmee know (either phone or email).

---------------------------------------------------------------
Paul C. David (pdavid@mips.com) 408 / 524-8458
MIPS Computer Systems Inc. 928 Arques Ave. Sunnyvale CA, 94088
---------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: ba.music
From: CA.JOE@forsythe.stanford.edu (Joe Koepnick)
Subject: Fender Twin 4 Sale
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:31:43 GMT

1974 Fender Twin Reverb for Sale
100 watts of tube power
Master Volume
Excellent condition
$350.00 or best offer
respond this account or call Joe at 415-723-0651
or 415-325-1986 (home)
From: rbalcon@us.oracle.com (Richard Balcon)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Rave on DESTINY
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:08:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: chelsea.9204170008.AA06360


Intemperance and destiny of the Gathering presents a heavenly and celestial
outdoor celebration from sunset April 25th in the ethereal glow of the moon and
stars, moving through the glorious ray's of sunrise and the warmth of sunlight
to sunset April 26th. Spinning are real packer DJ's., spinning in da boom wood 'n
da groove terrace: Garth, Ernie, Para, Spun, Harry Who, Richard G, Bones, Robert
Rankin, Julius, Joey and Guest. 

For Parking and other details call (408) 236 2022.

Peace,

Richard.

p.s. just posting for a friend.
From: mds@condor.nsc.com (Mark Del Secco)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Berkeley Theater Directions?
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:16:47 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

Can anyone give me directions to the Berkeley Community Theater?
I'll be comming from Sunnyvale.
Also, how good are the "Orchestra" seats?
Thanks in advance!

-Mark


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Newsgroups: ba.music,ba.market.misc
From: cgd@annoyance.chaos.org (Chris Demetriou)
Subject: Re: U2 tickets at $800 each?!! No Thanks!
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:17:57 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Annoyance Is Us

In article <kuenroINNm6t@spim.mips.com> woodacre@mips.com (Michael Woodacre) writes:
>The band is not asking the high prices for tickets - people are just
>trying to make a fast buck - they didn't severely limit ticket sales,
>they just sold the number of tickets that the venue has seats!

Ahh, but when most bands come thru the bay area, they spend an
extra night or two -- do 2 or 3, *or more* shows...

Obviously you didn't notice how long the Rolling Stones stayed in LA
-- 4 or 5 nights, and that was in the LA Coliseum...

So by limiting to to one night per city (and they've done this,
as far as i can tell), they *HAVE* limited ticket sales...

>U2 don't get the profit from scalpers - they tried to arrange the
>ticket sales to stop big time scalpers buying up lots of tickets.

Yes, i'm quite aware of this...

>This is just a very popular concert and you can't blame the band
>if more people want to attend the concert than tere are seats at
>the venue.

no, you can't.  However, there is demand for an extra night
or two here, so you *CAN* blame them for knowing that (and if
they didn't, well...  that'd be hard to believe) and then
knowingly doing only one show here.

Given that they've reduced the number of seats scalpers can
buy, because of the sales policy, i don't think they've
severely reduced the scalpers' profits.

I mean, at $800 PER TICKET, you're looking at around
four times the price (per ticket) that scalpers get normally
(for instance, for the Rush shows, second row seats, prices
were around $200/seat through the scalpers, and the highest-priced
shows i've ever heard about, in terms of scalpers' prices,
were Billy Joel (in LA) @ $250/seat close to the front of the floor,
and the Who, in LA, at a price that was just thru the roof,
although the latter doesn't really count as 'normal').

If U2 thought that they were keeping money out of the scalpers'
hands, the thought totally wrong...  All they did was manage
to keep a (large) number of people who want to see them from doing
so.

>Get real
Gee, ad hominem attacks show true intelligence.

I *AM* real, for if i weren't, i couldn't be sitting here typing
this response, and i couldn't have posted my original article...

Please, be more inventive and careful when you try to be insulting.

cgd
Newsgroups: ba.music
From: billt@sgi.com (Bill Torzewski)
Subject: Van Morrison Sat. For Sale
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 07:45:11 GMT

2 tickets for Van Morrison,
Sat Apr 18 Berkeley Community Theater 8pm.

Excellent seats (3rd row center).

will take best offer before 3pm fri.

call/leave message: 415-335-1811

thanks,
billt.
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 billt@pluto.esd.sgi.com                     bill torzewski
Newsgroups: ba.music,ba.market.misc
From: cgd@annoyance.chaos.org (Chris Demetriou)
Subject: Re: U2 tickets at $800 each?!! No Thanks!
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:49:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Annoyance Is Us

In article <1992Apr7.191125.27068@pony.Ingres.COM> gmcquary@Ingres.COM (George F. McQuary) writes:
>Really, no band is worth this much. If you didn't get 'em when they went on
>sale through BASS, don't bother. 

Is it just me, or was this one of the things they were trying to
*prevent* by limiting ticket sales the way that did?

I guess that they never really considered that if you severly
limit ticket sales, the prices go thru the roof.

Nice to know that they understand economics...
It does, in a way, pay their rent...

<sigh>

cgd
From: cox.s@applelink.apple.com (Steve Cox)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Tascam MSR-16 16-Track Recorder
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:26:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: goofy.23455
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple

Selling a Tascam MSR-16 1/2" recorder with very low hours and in mint
condition. Just don't use it enough to justify keeping it. Has dbx I noise 
reduction and will lock to SMPTE. Also has gapless/seamless punch in and sounds
great. I have a demo CD which I made from the multitrack masters on this machine.

New $7500

Asking $4700.

Would consider a trade for comparable pro audio equipment e.g. mics, Effects.
Would also consider a Waverunner Jet Ski.

email or call 408 265-9043 after 7:00 pm Pacific time.
From: ORT High School <ortarad@igc.org>
Newsgroups: ba.music
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:39 PDT
Subject: computer for sale
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1325100001:000:250
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ortarad    Apr 12 02:39:00 1992


for sale!!

a pc computer with a:
2 drivers 360k
1 orange monitor
board 102 keys
1 hard disk 30mb
2 joysticks
1 printer (citizen 120d)
(from 1990-1991)

all of this in just 1250$

for buying,call (972)-057-956360 to ofir 
israel.
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Re: SRL show review
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:40:09 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (William Stocker) writes:

> In article <10393@optilink.UUCP> manley@optilink.UUCP (Dave Manley) writes:
> >In article <gate.NgsXiB1w164w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!xorcist@well.sf.c
> >>4/8/92
> >>SURVIVAL RESEARCH LABS
> >>San Francisco
>
> Would you kindly explain what this is all about?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Will

Basically, take a drive down to San Francisco this thursday the 16th to:

650 Howard (Drug #6)
SF, CA
415-541-5687

Mark Pauline will be showing videos and lecturing about things... well
worth the price of admission which will probably be $5 as usual.

<X>orcist

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Newsgroups: ba.music,rec.music.makers,rec.music.bluenote
From: quito@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marco Quito Perlman)
Subject: VAN HALEN in San Francisco
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 00:52:48 GMT

If anyone has 2 tickets for the May 8 concert at the Cow Palace, in San 
Francisco that they would like to sell, please email me.

Quito
quito@leland.stanford.edu
From: cox.s@applelink.apple.com (Steve Cox)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Sony PCM-2000 Prof. Portable DAT
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:35:14 GMT
Organization: Apple

Want to sell a Sony portable professional DAT with SMPTE timecode support.
Will record at 44.056, 44.1, and 48 kHz analog or digital without copy 
protection. Will also record at 32 kHz digitally.
Digital I/O is AES/EBU standard.
Also has balanced analog mic/line ins with padding and phantom power.

Comes with 3 batteries and charger, case, and original box.

This machine has less than 20 hours on it. Great for audio for video or film
work!

email me or call 408 265-9043 after 7:00 pm.
From: cox.s@applelink.apple.com (Steve Cox)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Sony PCM-2000 Prof. Portable DAT
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:19:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple

Want to sell a Sony portable professional DAT with SMPTE timecode support.
Will record at 44.056, 44.1, and 48 kHz analog or digital without copy 
protection. Will also record at 32 kHz digitally.
Digital I/O is AES/EBU standard.
Also has balanced analog mic/line ins with padding and phantom power.

Comes with 3 batteries and charger, case, and original box.

This machine has less than 20 hours on it. Great for audio for video or film
work!

New cost was $6k, settle for $3.5k
Would consider a trade for comparable audio equipment or a Waverunner Jet Ski

email me or call 408 265-9043 after 7:00 pm.
From: ccantor@alfa.berkeley.edu (Carol Cantor)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: Van Morrison ticket to trade (REPOST)
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:39:14 GMT
Reply-To: ccantor@alfa.berkeley.edu (Carol Cantor)
Distribution: ba
Organization: CSM Program, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: csm28.berkeley.edu

I have a ticket for Van Morrison at the Great American Music Hall,
4/21.  I'd like to trade it for a ticket for either the Monday 4/20
or Wednesday 4/22 GAMH show.  Please contact me if you're interested
in making a trade.

-- Carol Cantor
   ccantor@alfa.berkeley.edu
   (510) 642-6583
   (510) 843-5032
From: brunette@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (H L Brunette)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: The Harmonic Convergents at the Country Store Cafe
Keywords: a cappella
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:04:03 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Let's Make Some Charts!


			The Harmonic Convergents

				 with

        	        The Inscrutable Tone Cats



	             Thursday, April 23, 1992 8:00 PM
                         The Country Store Cafe
			 14577 Big Basin Way
			       Saratoga
                            Free admission
From: llorenzo@loontown.EBay.Sun.COM (Head Loon - llorenzo@loontown.EBay.Sun.COM)
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: saxophone teacher near Fremont
Summary: Looking for Sax teacher
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:13:48 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: loontown.ebay.sun.com

Howdy Folks - Since its never too late to learn, I've decided to pursue a dream.

I'm shopping for a saxophone (preferably tenor) and looking for a sax teacher,
hopefully someone who lives or teaches close to Fremont.  

I just found this newsgroup while trying to find tickets to the U2 concert, and I'll
be hanging around a while.

Thanks for any helpful suggestions.

Larry Lininger
408-276-3911

And about those U2 tickets....   I'm trying to do something nice for my step-daughter,
and I'm willing to go to about $125 for the pair.  I may even go to $150, Robert and
Rosa, so please give me a call.
Newsgroups: ba.music
From: pby@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Yu)
Subject: W-30 Sampler
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:34:28 GMT


dougt@netcom.com (Douglas Terrebonne) points out:

>     The W-30 is NOT a 16-bit sampler, it is 12-bits...

When I made my posting I only went on Roland's advertising,
which has claimed (at different times) that the W-30 is 12 bit
and 16 bit.

I am sorry if that post was misleading, because it was not intentionally so.

I am not trying to make wild claims, but simply going on what Roland
the manufacturer has said in the past.

Paul
From: moon!cyberden!xorcist@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: ba.music
Subject: SRL show review   
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 18:58:45 PST

4/8/92
SURVIVAL RESEARCH LABS
San Francisco

I woke up at 7:30 today... very rare for me. Crawled into the shower
and drove into the city. Met my friend and took a bus down to the site
of the 11:02am planned SRL show. Quite a crowd. No where to stand/see
yet my video camera acted as my eyes.

Basically, from what I've seen in previous videos, this SRL show lacked
the amount of mayhem I was expecting to see. There were a few of the
more well known crawling type machines, yet the only machine there that
made any impact was the fire breathing shock cannon/mutilator/pulverizer/
<your name here>'izer... This piece of equipment most likely goes by a
proper name, yet I think the "shit dropper" is more appropriate as I'm sure
the suits that came for the museum opening dropped shit in their pants
once this puppy roared.

Our friendly shock cannon waltzed around, destroying the fabricated city
of metal/wood/plastic and aluminum siding as well as our ears, sternums and
lower intestines. Along with the explosions, there were growls of fire this
metal maniac made which brought warmth to my gizzard.

I had tried in vein to contact Mark about professionally recording their
show for them... none of this video tape shit... I'm talking about a
$4,000 portable DAT with a $3000 stereo mic. I hope someone there had
a DAT for this. Perhaps Mark will read this and get in touch with me for
next time...

Anyways, to continue, various structures were set afire and the swarmers,
which seemed to be 3 half metal garbage can sized throw pillows seemed to
get caught on each other and huddled next to me during the show...

There was most like more going on in various parts which we can all see at
the SRL Video/Lecture at Drug #6 on the 16th, so check that out.

I talked to a few friends who worked the show and some mentioned that it
was total xaos, others mentioned that there was more to do, yet the
Fire Marshall shut the show down prematurely... around 30 minutes prematurely.
If this is so, I hope SRL reschedules... perhaps up here in Marin would
be better... yea... at the Muni-Court area in San Rafael... what the
hell.. there's enough room and the ducks won't mind...

<X>orcist