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From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BAD JOKES
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 12 Sep 1992 17:19:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Sep10.194411.484@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us
(bob pasker) wrote:
> 
> 
> i've been called many things by many people as a result of my
> detestation of smileys. leaving them out is an easy way to
> separate the wheat from the chaff, as it were.
> 
The separating never seems to be the problem.  It's the fact that we devote
so much effort to milling the chaff that gets on peoples nerves.

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834     | DoD #207  AMA
#573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci. dept.| KotNML  /  KotB     
|
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get | '81 CB750C          
|
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111              | '88 Bianchi Limited 
|
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MY Winner for DoD Ballard (wuz Winner of the Official...)
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:56:49 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <1992Sep04.142639.11423@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
> 
> Well, I don't see the big fuss about having the official song being
> moto related; we're rarely directly tied to motorcycles in our
> daily rantings, so why enforce that restriction when we're out
> making fools of ourselves to the general public?  We want a song we
> can sing, which is hopefully nonoffensive to those who just don't
> have a clue who we are, and we want it to reflect our general
> character.  So I nominate "Going to the Zoo".  It's got a catchy
> refrain that listeners can learn after one repeat, and we can add
> our own verse as required by occaision.  (There should be at least
> one verse about visiting the llama yard...)

I don't know know know about THAT song song song,  but I have always liked
that cowboy sounding tune that plays over the closing credits of 'Raising
Arizona'.  I don't know if it has any words, but it sounds great when
whistled, it's real catchy, has a good hook, and best of all, can be
yodeled in a sort of generic way without actually singing anything.  One
could sound stunningly deranged, which is always good for warning off
interlopers and other desperadoes.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Let me take my chances on the wall  |
 | DoD# 541   'Debaucher of Donuts'   |  of death"       Richard Thompson    |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:57:00 GMT



Jody Levine writes about feeling excluding from motorcycling
    by advertising that treats her like an object:
|The problem I have with the "babes 'n bikes" photos is that
|they give me the impression of excluding me from motorcycling.
|Sometimes these photos include guys in riding gear (probably
|ugly guys as they often have to hide behind dark-visored
|helmets), but I've seen women actually riding only in BMW ads.
|The aesthetic appeal of the usual ad is meant for men only. The
|woman on a bike in a bikini and high heels tells me that I'm a
|stupid shit who doesn't know squat about riding and that my
|association with motorcycles can go no further than sweating on
|the seat.

Part of the problem is that there aren't enough women in the
sport yet.  This is brought home to me by my search for riding
clothes.  I'm having a terrible time finding practical riding
jackets (read: not covered with fringes & metal doo-dads) in my
size.  The shops I go to seem to have about 5 women's jackets
each.  They must not sell enough to justify having much stock on
the floor.  Marketing droids aren't going to waste advertising
dollars on such a small segment of the market.

But there are ways to advertise to men that don't involve
treating women like objects.

I don't mind cheesecake so long as it's accompanied by an
equal amount of beefcake.  The human body is a beautiful
thing.  When the attitude is right, that is.

In many of these photos, women are just objects, to be buffed up
& waxed & posed next to the motorcycle-objects.  I see enough of
this to be annoyed about it.  I read enough of that Harley women
thread in this group to know that this is a real attitude
displayed by real men who read & post to this group.  This guy
is one of them:

James J. Dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) dismisses Jody's concerns:
|>||Inferiority complex?
|>||If they had adds w some guy in a g-string I don't think I'd care. I
|>||wouldn't buy the bike (probably) but I wouldn't take it personally.

dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa) writes a good rejoinder:
|>Inferiority complex?
|>(Why wouldn't you buy the bike?)

Dutton replies:
|I'm not looking to pick up any guys in G-strings YMMV.  But
|then of course I wouldn't look at it as a plot against me
|personnally.

Of course you wouldn't.  It doesn't happen to you daily.
In fact, I'll bet that it's never happened to you.

If you'd like to find out what it's like to be a woman
interested in biking, send me email.  I'll objectify you with
great pleasure.  In fact, I'll give you a free sample right
now:  don't bother to send me mail unless you're thin, muscular,
good-looking, well-dressed, and willing to strip down & wiggle
your crotch around.  No Fat Slobs need apply.  

Show me your tits, dude.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"If there is anyone here that I have not offended, I deeply apologize." 
-- J. Brahms
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: moped vs moto
Date: 13 Sep 92 06:56:02 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

My first bike was a Yamaha QT-50, sort of a moped/scooter/motorcycle.
It had wheels that were somewhere in size between a scooter and a 
motorcycle, maybe 15", but it had a little 50cc motor, and no pedals.
It was, actually, very much like riding a motorized bicycle, but it
qualified as a "motorcycle" under CA code, so I got my motorcycle
license on that, and rode it until the piston ring blew out & ripped
the cylinder walls to bits.  

I like my Hawk much better.  It isn't quite as maneuverable, because
of the extra 400lbs or so, but I feel much safer on it than I did on
the little QT-50.  I can get out of the way of people, and actually
use a lane, rather than riding on the shoulder.  If I were to start
all over again, I'd probably start with something midway between my
two bikes.  Maybe a dual-purpose 250.  Then you could play in the
dirt, and still hang with the street traffic.


-- 
|The opinions expressed above are merely the result of chaotic synapse firings|
|After being brutally pummeled about the head by a big mean          -   O    |
|biker, I can no longer be responsible for my rantings.                |      |
|captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Brian Murfin)  DoD# 0690  nt650gt     \_^___/   |
From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Keywords: oil roads sign
Date: 6 Sep 92 00:21:31 GMT
Organization: Real/Time Communications

In article <sysop.170@elan.glassboro.edu> sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor)) writes:
>Saw a sign last month that attracted my attention:
>
>	Freshly Oiled Road

That would have to rank above my previous "least favorite sign"... Those ones
you always see on a long ride down a road that's the only way to get there
reading "LOOSE GRAVEL".



-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:43:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.140912.21789@spdc.ti.com>, achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
|> In article <dbc-140992210024@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
|> >In article <1992Sep14.153625.1807@ohrd.uucp>, ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu
|> >(Jody Levine) wrote:
|> >> 
|> >> Wouldn't it be just as sexy to show a 
|> >> woman women in well-fitting, sexy leather riding gear who looks like she 
|> >> has a clue? If not, is the purposeful exclusion of half the population from
|> >> motorcycling a wise marketing move?
|> >> 
|> 
|> Maybe. Provided she's got nothing on underneath and the zippers pulled down 
|> enough to show some serious cleavage.
|> 
|> Yeah, I know, I'm just another sexy pig.


I had a sig where I stated:

"I'm a confirmed sexist, I PREFER women."

and the woman that had been ranting about
sexism stated that in that case, it's ok.

Some people just don't think.

---
Curt Howland        DoD#0663      '82 V45 Sabre
            howland@nsipo.nasa.gov 
  Don't bother arguing with drunks or zelots,
they aren't listening to anyone but themselves.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price)
Subject: Belt Drive Conversion Kit for KZ440 and similar bikes
Keywords: belt drive, for sale, Kawasaki
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:25:40 GMT

About to replace that messy, inconvenient old chain and sprockets on 
your small to mid-size Kawasaki? Don't do it!

I've got a belt-drive conversion kit for my 1981 KZ440ALTD. It 
turns out that my "A" model can't accomodate it, so it could be yours!

For sale: belt, front and rear pulleys, larger "chain" guard. Clean.
One coat of black semi-gloss Rustoleum on guard, suitable for painting 
over. This'll fit any KZ440 with the clutch cable attaching on the right 
side of the engine, and other Kawasakis too, although I couldn't tell 
you which ones right now.

Asking $50, I'll pay shipping.

Please send email as I am unable to keep up with the traffic on this
newsgroup.

Tom

******************************************************************************
  tp0x@cs.cmu.edu   |   Mr Ethical   |     Tom Price, Obscure Dropout
  1981 KZ440LTD     |    DoD #518    |  	  I'm the DoD.
******************************************************************************
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: moped vs moto
Date: 9 Sep 1992 18:58:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article En7@cup.hp.com, hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:

>: There is no rec.mopeds, so see how unimportant they are considered?
>
>get a life, ed.  a scooter (not moped) is a MOTORCYCLE.  since you
>have NOTHING, ed, you are lower than these scooter riders that you
>so cheerfully denegrate.

Jesus, Hesh, chill out!

I'm not denegrating anybody, a guy asked for arguments on motorcycles
over mopeds.  Maybe *you* know more about what he's talking about than
he does;  *I* was just responding to his request.

BTW, I've got a life, TYVM, I just don't currently have a motorcycle.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:06:46 GMT

In article <18fv86INNe20@cs.utexas.edu>, osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
> 
> In article <6475@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
> >I would have to say that my least favorite sign is one that says 
> >"Next Gas n Miles"  where 'n' is anything over 75.  I just don't
> >have the range. sigh.
> 
> You wouldn't happen to ride a sportster, eh?


Nope, he rides a wannabe...

- Roid
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:30732 ba.motorcycles:157
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I didn't do it.
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:16:36 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <JET.92Sep7052759@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>I deny any involvement in nude motorcycling.
>
>Just thought I'd mention that.

This morning's newspaper had an article describing how a little girl out 
for a walk with her mother found a bunch of rubber-like things shaped 
"like Hershey's kisses, only smaller" on the ground. Laboratory inspection
discovered that they were human nipples, both male and female. They had
apparently suffered frosbite and fallen off. One of them even had a silver
ring running through it. 

Just thought I'd mention that.

jim
-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
*   (insert new bike here)   | Nothing hurts like the loss one feels when   *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | they lose their first love, get fired from   * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | their first job, or sell their first bike.   * 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell)
Subject: Re: Just Because... (was: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake)
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:28:13 GMT

I too can browse other stores, as long as I dont try to get my girlfriend's
"store" to match a deal offered elsewhere.

-billy

-- 
'93 CBR600F2P  Work = 301-443-4930 "...you see, there's fast, really fast,
'91 MR2 Turbo  Home = 301-871-7704  and STUPID fast. This one is a notch above
'90 F117A <NOT!>                    STUPID fast" -salesdude on the ZX-11.
                                   "Hmmmmmmm!" -me
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Was: Re: key fobs Now: Jim.harassment...
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:07:49 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <txd.715970741@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
>jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:
>
>Jim's hurting now, as he's fobless, jobless, and bikeless.. (any other
>lesses?) ;{> I understand he's trying to figure out how to get that

Hmmm... does that make me KotL? That's Less, not List, I- WAIT! BACK! I said
LESS! NO! NOT LIST! YOU'RE TOO CLOSE! THERE'S TOO MANY OF YOU! YOU'RE 
BREAKING THE- (sounds of newbie-inflicted carnage deleted for the sake
of the queasy).

>Cagiva Alazurra (sp?) though... Even at the price of his roommate's good 
>will...
Uh-oh... I was a bit more than mildly flamed by Beth for not knowing the
proper spelling. I have since found out that neither does she, but when you
publicly announce it, she snaps! And you *live* with her! Be vewwwwy careful :-)

>Jim, Beth told me yesterday that she had even contemplated offering
>you her 250 Exciter for the *Mini Ride and Feed*... It strikes me that
                              ^^^^ 
>this would have been quite appropriate... :{)

You understand, of course, that this means war. 
   1) At least it would have started.
   2) We all know that the displacement of a bike is inversely proportional
      to the size of the rider's genitals. Thank you for the compliment.
   3) I stayed for the MR, & would have gladly participated. Where were
      you? Diving? Hmmmm, that excuse seems to get used quite a bit. And
      it's always used when you & Beth are leaving somewhere together. Early.
      It also- (hey- where'd that light come from?) Oh. I get it. Nevermind.
      I'll let you slide on this one.

So there. :-)

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
*   (insert new bike here)   | Nothing hurts like the loss one feels when   *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | they lose their first love, get fired from   * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | their first job, or sell their first bike.   * 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: Least Favorite Road Sign
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:39:59 GMT

My least favorite road sign used to be the one that says

    CATTLE GUARD

Most of them had the little pipes at right angles to the road,
but SOME of them had them parallel to the direction of travel!!
From: aal@broue.rot.qc.ca (Alain Hebert)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: >wheelies
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:44:49 GMT
Organization: Groupe de Recherche Operationnelle en Telecommunication (ROT)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead]) writes:
: In article <1992Sep4.215527.1091@gandalf.ca> mramsell@gandalf.ca (Mark Ramsell) writes:
: >	My mechanic informs me that while doing wheelies on most sport bikes
: >the engine is running without a supply of fresh oil.  This he says is caused
: 
:  Your mechanic is quite right. The Yamaha race manuals typically warn
:  against wheelying for just this reason (oil pickup being starved).

	Hehe, I saw it happen yesterday when dragging down my street...  I was
	accelerating like hell and my low oil indicator light up!

	Two things: My oil was stuck in the back of the pane or I got some
	problemes with the oil circulation in my bike (<- Very probable)

	Have fun... (Funny to imagine the oil having trouble with G's)

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: vanity plates
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:08:56 GMT

efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu (Evelyn - gorgeous red-headed biker babe...) writes:

>I spent a lot of time on the drive home thinking
>about what I could put on the tags for my bike...
>Anybody out there have personalized plates?

DOOM	*	FJ1200
DENIZEN		Spagthorpe Newfoundland (aka Toyota pickup truck)

* Idea stolen from Bruce Tanner, only 48 states left, get yours now! :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: equal opportunity cheesecake
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 02:46:41 GMT

In article <18mdcjINN2ma@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>
>As I rant on, just what IS the deal with bikini-clad women in high heels?
>They seem to infest motorcycle posters, motorcycle magazines, car
>magazines, and calendars featuring airplanes to drilling equipment.
>Do hets *really* find the heels-bikini combo sexy?  Even when holding
>a pipe wrench?

No, I sure don't.  I rather think it quite stupid.  I also think the Corbin
catalog (yes, I got a '92 catalog) has some remarkably stupid photos in
it based on infantile display of skin.  I am not often swayed to buy a 
product based soleyly on advertising, but I can be totally turned off a
product by stupid advertising.

I can only presume that such tactics continue because most people think
it works.  To think otherwise is to question ones "manliness".  

Such is life.

On a related matter I had a most interesting experience recently.  Lately
I have gone for rides with a lovely young lady.  She is just learning on
a Yamaha Maxim 650 (I think that's what it is).  Anyway, we met up with
her folks at a diner for lunch the other day.  As we went out to ride,
someone noticed my DoD plate holder.  MANY eyebrows were raised and 
puzzled, uncomfortable glances exchanged.  When asked, I told these folks
that I am a club member of the DoD, and sorta explained what we were.

My explanation was tentatively accepted.  Later, I learned from the young
lady that in their society/group/understanding, "flaming" as an adjective
is used to describe gay men, as in "flaming queens".  They thought I was
gay.  Live to flame, flame to live.  Interesting.

Has anyone else had such experiences?

Ride Free,

Bill 
________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,alt.tv.mst3k
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: sidecar racing?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: sidecars
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:05:00 GMT

In article <m#mnhsn.dhawk@netcom.com>, dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins) writes...
>Question to rec.motorcycles:
>For those of us who are Mystery Science Theater 3000 fans, there's been
>a mystery that maybe someone here can clear up.  MST covered a movie
>called 'sidehackers' - which was about sidecar racing.  Does sidecar
>racing still happen?
> 
	Yes, but Bernie Ecclestone is doing his best to kill it :-(.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
"noematical -- a. Obs. rare;  Originating, or existing, in thought, or in the
 mind alone."	-- Compact Oxford Dictionary
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Party Competition (was Re: The man without a number
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 10 Sep 1992 02:32:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <m0sngc-.shoun@netcom.com>, shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
wrote:
> 
> We've argued the merits of the West Coast Joust versus the Right Coast
> Ride based on the number and types of bikes, quantity of beer consumed,
> etc. I am now wondering whose Labor Day party was the best. Bill,
> how many nude bikers did you have? We had 11 naked bikers on 10 bikes.
> 
> 
This brings up a good question.  Why am I in Ohio?

> -- 
> Lissa
> shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834     | DoD #207  AMA
#573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci. dept.| KotNML  /  KotB     
|
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get | '81 CB750C          
|
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111              | '88 Bianchi Limited 
|