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Reply-To:     "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: SQL ? and SAS, editorial, et al.
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              Jul 27, 92 4:46 pm

>
>   CONTENT:   Response to Kernon Gibe's response and an editorial
>   SUMMARY:   SQL is part of base SAS, works on data sets/views, ...
>   REL/PLTF:  6.06+/all?
> >
> > >Short of asking the systems people... how can I tell if my
> > >installation has SAS SQL on it's various machines ??
>
>      ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>      An editorial flame:
>      ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>         It saddens me to see SAS so far down on the list of products to
>         support that systems programmers (or whoever has this
>         responsibility) do not bother to forward pertinent information
>         that programmers/users would find useful in their work.
>
<Stuff Eeleted>

>         It is my recommendation to those above-mentioned 'stranded'
>         persons, that they begin asking questions about this, and
>         demand, if they are in a position to do so, that some
>         mechanism be put into place so that they receive the
>         information so vital to their function.  Get involved,
>         get informed.  It will pay off in the long run.  I have
>         talked to too many people in this position, and I just
>         can't hold it in any longer.
>
<More Stuff Deleted>

>         Off my soapbox,
>
>  #-------------------------------------------------------------------#
>  :  Deborah Cannon                   Systems Support Group           :
>  :  Sr. Programmer Analyst           Administrative Data Processing  :
>  :  Phone: 319-335-6321              University of Iowa              :
>  :  Fax: 319-335-6385                400 NWB                         :
>  :  Email: adpdkhts@uiamvs           Iowa City, Iowa 52242           :
>  #-------------------------------------------------------------------#
>

As a "standard" person I fugured out long agao that i'd better develope
my own resources if I wanted to keep on top of what's going on. In the
case of SAS, I've discovered the User Group. That's how I found out about
Proc SQL. I first encountered it during SUGI 16 and then at a meeting of
of NOTSUG sown in Dallas. SAS-L is another valuable resource. Programmers
who use the Users Group will be at no one's mercy.

So much for my soap box.

Bob Snyder, Texas Instruments, Sherman, TX.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:38:41 EDT
Reply-To:     "Patrick Spreng" <76666.136@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         "Patrick Spreng" <76666.136@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      User Abend Code D93

Re: User Abend Code D93
(SAS/AF version 6.07 on MVS)

I am getting the following abend from my SAS/AF application:

     SASXAL Ended Due To Error+
     User Abend Code D93

There is no other message, the SYSUDUMP dataset is empty, and
(since the session abends) it's no possible to see if there is
anything in the SAS log.

There doesn't seem to be anything about a D93 in the Usage Notes.

Has anyone else had this problem?  Does anyone know what D93
means?

Thanks in advance.

Bruce Zak                        ^     CompuServe 76666,136
Lone Star Gas Company           /^\    Phone (214) 573-3475
Dallas, Texas                  (_+_)   Fax   (214) 573-3174
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Date: Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 10:23:47 EDT
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Subject: test

This is a test.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:27:00 CDT
Reply-To:     Deb Cannon 319-335-6321 <ADPDKHTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
From:         Deb Cannon 319-335-6321 <ADPDKHTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Asking about OS/2 list

----------------------------------------------------------------------
CONTENT:  Response
SUMMARY:  There's two lists for OS/2
REL/PLTF: 5.18/MVS 6.06/MVS 6.07/MVS 6.06/OS/2 6.04/PC-DOS
E-ADDR:   adpdkhts@uiamvs.bitnet
NAME:     Deb Cannon
PHONE:    319-335-6321
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>
> I would appreciate if some of you know about a discussion
> list for OS/2 users and could give me directions to subscribe
> it.
>
     There are two lists for OS/2, one moderated list, and one
     list like SAS-L.  To get the addresses, send the command
     'get listserv groups' to listserv@bitnic (without the
     apostrophes).  This document should tell you which server
     to send a subscribe command to.

     I prefer the moderated list, the other list is very, very
     busy and cluttered - I couldn't keep up with it, and alot
     of it just plain didn't apply to my particular configuration.
     Enjoy!

     Deb
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:12:20 EDT
Reply-To:     Daryl P Sawders <DARYL@PITTUNIX.BITNET>
From:         Daryl P Sawders <DARYL@PITTUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      SQL. Yes!

Thanks so much to:

        Kevin Davis
        Kernon Gibes
        Deb Cannon
        Andy Norton
        The Annonymous SQLer

SAS/SQL is going to be a _big_ answer to some problems we've been having

"There's no hindrance quite like complete ignorance" -me

Thanks again SAS-L.

   - Daryl -  ;-)
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:03:11 EST
Reply-To:     MacPhil <IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>
From:         MacPhil <IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>
Subject:      fyi-"resolution" for SAS/CMS accessing linked SAS/MVS datasets
Comments: To: sas <sas-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>

Thanks to those taking the time & effort to reply and supply information.

Based upon that information and a call to SAS Institute, here's the scoop:

SAS/CMS 6.07 has the same linked support 6.06 had (has); i.e. only
able to handle linked SAS-internal format files created using the V5 engine.

SAS/SHARE, however, will access V6 files in a linked disk situation.

So a simple list of options for others facing this are:

1) don't do it in CMS - use MVS
2) use SAS/MVS to produce an output view which is either v5 format or
   a flat dataset.
3) buy SAS/SHARE.

Thanks again.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
When ambidextrous people can't do it right, we do it left.

MacPhil / iqti400@indycms.bitnet / iqti400@indycms.iupui.edu
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:57:21 EDT
Reply-To:     William Kahn <71020.1025@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         William Kahn <71020.1025@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      6.04 command line invoke

In SAS 6.04, how can I pass parameters to the SAS program being executed in
batch mode? i.e. I want to invoke SAS with a command like

SAS digestit.sas -raw.asc

and have the sas program DIGESTIT.SAS run on the input file RAW.ASC.
DIGESTIT.SAS may look like: (neither infile is correct, just example idea).

data temp;
  infile %1;   *I'm using DOS batch type syntax here.  %1 expands to RAW.ASC;
  infile &mvar; *Using SAS macro type syntax here.  &mvar expands to RAW.ASC;
  input x y z;
proc means; run;

How do you get a command line parameter into a macro variable?

I can query the user with a windows statement for the data file name after
s/he invokes digestit.sas.  I would prefer to have it all work off the
command line.

Thanks.

Bill Kahn
W. L. Gore and Associates
71020.1025@compuserve.com
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:18:27 CET
Reply-To:     Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
From:         Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: calculations within a %MACRO

Hallo SAS-Lers,

I want to express my Thanks to R. Snyder, Todd Pukanecz, Linda Neden
and in particular to Tom Lewis for their ideas to the %MACRO question.

The symbol generator SYMPUT of the %MACRO processor uses a defined format
by the transformation of the numeric value to a %MACRO &variable.

Through a ROUNDing of a data set variable by 0.000001 can it be used
with a %MACRO &variable in comparisons (in calculations of course,
but I had not seen the real cause).

Thank you very much, and I wish you a very nice weekend.

Arnold Schick  University of Marburg/Germany  *** SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET
                                              *|* Schick@ibm.hrz.uni-marburg.DE
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:04:00 CDT
Reply-To:     JM01@SWTEXAS.BITNET
From:         JM01@SWTEXAS.BITNET
Subject:      sex or gender

I believe there was a discussion on the merits of the terms "sex" and "gender"
on the SAS-L list a couple years ago.  I wanted to retrieve a few archives of
the discussion as material for an on-going argument in my office, but notice
the archive LOG files for SAS-L seem to start in 1990.  I think the discussion
happened in 1989 or before.  Does anyone still have a copy of this discussion,
or know where I might get one?

Thanks,

Joe Meyer
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:28:42 -0500
Reply-To:     Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
From:         Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
Subject:      Response...PROC REG WEIGHT stmt doesn't affected errors?
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 CONTENT:   Response
 SUMMARY:   PROCs REG,GLM  WEIGHT stmt does affect estimated errors
 REL/PLTF:  all?
 E-ADDR:    gibes@swirl.monsanto.com
 NAME:      Kernon Gibes
 PHONE:     (708) 506-2873
 DATE/TIME: 21 July 1992, 8:29 a.m. CDT

Huub Rottgering wrote that PROC REG wouldn't address his modeling
problem because "...the estimated errors are not calculated taking into
account sigma_y_i".

This is the opposite of my experience with PROCs GLM and REG.  If

   inv_var = 1/sigma_y**2;  /*** not clear if Huub's sigma=variance ***/

then

   weight inv_var;

in GLM/REG gives, IMHO, the standard weighted least squares analysis
assuming, which Huub stated, that the sigma_y's are known (if
re-estimated then, baring MIXED, **one** approach would be NLIN).

Since my mail system appears to be a bit flakey, perhaps this has
already been answered and I'll find out about it a few days from now!
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:35:26 -0500
Reply-To:     Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
From:         Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
Subject:      RE: Reading Data Conditionally
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Comments: cc: xiang@u.washington.edu@tin.monsanto.com, GIBES@tin.monsanto.com

 CONTENT:   Response to Xiang's "Reading Data Conditionally"
 SUMMARY:   Output only the 1st occurances of values with retained flags
 REL/PLTF:  not applicable
 E-ADDR:    gibes@swirl.monsanto.com
 NAME:      Kernon Gibes
 PHONE:     (708) 506-2873
 DATE/TIME: 30 July 1992

Regarding:

>  Now I need to select observations based on Resp Values: Select
>the very first observation where resp=1 or resp=2. In the data above,
>it will be the fourth observation: 0.76 90 1 0, and the eighth
>observation: 1.02 83 2 0.
>
>  I appreciate your comments.  Since I don't check this newsgroup
>often enough, please respond to me at xiang@u.washington.edu.
>For those of you who feel this is too easy to be put on the net,
>please be tolerant. Thank you.

Personally, I appreciate the "easy" questions... they're the only ones I
can answer:

___ source code ________________________________________________________

options ls=72 nodate nonumber;
data test;
 input  Time    Stimul    Resp    Tooth;
cards;
   0.59    70        0         0
        0.63    75        0         0
        0.71    80        0         0
        0.76    90        1         0
        0.79    103       1         0
        0.88    79        0         0
        0.97    81        0         0
        1.02    83        2         0
        1.06    90        0         1
;

data subset;
   set test;
   retain flag1 1 flag2 1;
   if flag1 and resp = 1 then do;
      oldobs = _n_;
      flag1 = 0;
      output;
      end;
   if flag2 and resp = 2 then do;
      oldobs = _n_;
      flag2 = 0;
      output;
      end;
run;

proc print data=subset;
title1 "should have 4th obs(0.76 90 1 0) and 8th obs (1.02 83 2 0.)";
run;

___ SAS output _________________________________________________________

      should have 4th obs(0.76 90 1 0) and 8th obs (1.02 83 2 0.)

   OBS    TIME    STIMUL    RESP    TOOTH    FLAG1    FLAG2    OLDOBS

    1     0.76      90        1       0        0        1         4
    2     1.02      83        2       0        0        0         8
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:19:12 CDT
Reply-To:     "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
From:         "R. Snyder" <rsnyder@LOBBY.TI.COM>
Subject:      Re: supressing macro in log
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              Jul 28, 92 10:51 am

>
> I had another suggestion from someone to cut down the amount of SASLOG
> generated and that was to route the log to a dummy file before invoking SAS
> (I'm running it on-line, noninteractively) - I can do it on CMS fine, but
> ned to find out how to do it on Unix and VMS. (You wouldn't happen to know
> how to do this offhand, would you?)
>
You might try this:

  sas program.sas -log /dev/null

The log should go to never never land.

Bob Snyder, Texas Instruments, Sherman, TX
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From: xiang@milton.u.washington.edu (Charlene Zhu)
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Subject: Reading Data Conditionally
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:56:51 GMT
Reply-To: xiang@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Dear helpers,

Since I posted my subject "Reading Data Conditionally", I've
received many kind responses. I want to say thanks to all of
you. 

However, I guess I didn't describe what I want clearly enough.
Let me try again. Data:

	obs	time	stimul	resp
	1	0.01	50	0
	2	0.02	56	0
	3	0.03	72	1
	4	0.04	78	1
	5	0.06	89	2
	6	0.50	90	0
	7	0.59	75	0
	8	0.65	76	1
	9	0.76	87	1
	10	0.89	75	0
	11	0.92	76	0
	12	0.95	80	2
	...
What I want is: third obs(0.03 72 1), eighth obs(0.65 76 1), and 
twelfth obs(0.95 80 2). I want EACH first observation where the 
value of resp for the last obs is 0. For example, I DONOT want
the fifth obs(0.06 89 2) even though this is the first time the value
2 appears, because the value of resp for the fourth obs is 1, not 0.

I hope I'm explaining it clearly. Thank you again!
D
twelveth  
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Date:         Mon, 20 Jul 1992 15:24:00 EDT
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From:         DROBBY@DUKEMVS.BITNET
Subject:      Sorting Puzzle - Multiple variable sorts

Dear SAS-L'ers,
     Sometimes, just when you think you understand the SAS algorithms,
     something pops up and make you existentially insecure. Consider
     the following.
        A student was trying to sort two datasets by, say, id and
     school, in order to merge them together.  She clearly wanted
     the dataset to look like id's within school's. She tried
     the following code:

      proc sort data=one;
         by school;
         by id;

      proc sort data=two;
         by school;
         by id;

      data total;
          merge one two;
       by school;
       by id;

      Needless to say,  the merge did not work, as it did not find
      the datasets "sorted" by school.  I straightened her out by
      showing her how to use just one by statement with multiple
      variables, and explained to her how I thought SAS was
      interpreting her code.  That is, first sort by school;  then,
      resort by ID, independent of school, leaving her with the
      wrong look to her dataset).  Anyway, she left and then she
      came back with a printout based on the two BY statement code
      that suggested that the datasets were indeed sorted by id within
      school, antithetical to my hypothesis.
         Anyway, what gives?  Can anyone suggest what SAS is doing here?

                                          Dr. Robert Terry
                                          Dept. of Psychology
                                          Social and Health Sciences
                                          Duke University
                                          Durham, NC 27708
                                          EMAIL: drobby@dukemvs
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:14:49 EDT
Reply-To:     Steve Wickham <SWICKHAM@DARTCMS1.BITNET>
From:         Steve Wickham <SWICKHAM@DARTCMS1.BITNET>
Subject:      re: writing variable names..:thanks!

Thanks to all who provided answers to my problem regarding writing to external
files.  A version of the code supplied by Andy Norton, using the call vname
trick, did the job.  But does it not strike you odd that such a simple
problem requires such a complex solution?  SAS will do just about anything,
including driving you crazy :^)
  Steve Wickham
  Dartmouth College
  bitnet: swickham@dartcms1
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 23:08:15 -0500
Reply-To:     mark feddersen <mfedder@BRONZE.UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
From:         mark feddersen <mfedder@BRONZE.UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Back up again
Comments: To: sas-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Indiana's node is back up again for SAS-L.  Thanks to all of you who
let me know my "voice in the wilderness" is heard.  As the more experienced
SAS-L'ers already know, this is an active and friendly community and the
new kids on the block really appreciate this.
Mark Feddersen
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:41:15 PDT
Reply-To:     George Fernandez <gcjf@UNSSUN.SCS.UNR.EDU>
From:         George Fernandez <gcjf@UNSSUN.SCS.UNR.EDU>
Subject:      NONLINE TESTS IN REG.
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

I have two quadratic regression models :



TRT	       Model

A           a0 + b1t + c1tsq

B           (a0 +a1) + (b1+b2)t + (c1 +c2)tsq



How can I test ( similar to the SAS 'TEST' option in Proc REG)

b1c2 = b2c1



I am using PS SAS 6.04



Any help is appreciated.



George Fernandez

(702) 784-4206



GCJF@unssun.nevada.edu
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:44:29 EDT
Reply-To:     Howard Schreier <HIS@NIHCU.BITNET>
From:         Howard Schreier <HIS@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: RE: multiple identical id vars problem

CONTENT:   Comment on "multiple identical id vars problem"
SUMMARY:   Re-shaping data set with series of PROC TRANSPOSEs
REL/PLTF:  6.04/ PC DOS

From Kernon Gibes (gibes@swirl.monsanto.com):

>  Ed Silverman wrote that he wanted to re-organize:
>
> ID           CODE  TERM  DATE
>
> 002162706    292  901   900309
> 002162706    292  901   900403
> 002254401    299  891   890201
> 002254401    299  901   900303
> 002254401    276  901   900405
>
> into (one observation per ID, multiple variables):
>
> ID         CODE TERM DATE  CODE2 TERM2 DATE2  CODE3 TERM3 DATE3
>
> 002162706  292  901 900309 299*  901   900403
> 002254401  299  891 890201 299   901   900303  299** 901  900405
>
>  (I'm assuming that 299* should be 292 and 299** should be 276??????)
>
>  Since this is 6.04 he can't use SQL [ha ha ;-) ].

Actually, the target shape of the data set (repeating groups of
parallel variables) is alien to the relational approach to data
management and therefore SQL does not lend itself. Note that SQL does
not have arrays and that repetitive processing is something that
happens over like *rows*, not columns.

>  This could be done easily enough in a data step with arrays and LAST.
>  processing, but since it's not clear that we know in advance the
>  maximum number of unique ID values, I've given one approach using PROC
>  TRANSPOSEs below. This doesn't give the desired order of variables and
>  missing values might present problems, but I'll leave the data step
>  approach to someone else!

Maybe there is a role for SQL! Under 6.06+, I think a fairly simple
query *could* determine the maximum number of unique ID values and
stick it into a macro variable, so that a DATA step approach could be
generalized. However, the series of TRANSPOSEs is the approach which
thought of first when I saw this problem, and is what I would use
under any version.

[Kernon's code deleted]

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From: Dale Houston <dhouston@bio.ri.ccf.org>
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Subject: memory, PROC MIXED, and VMS
To: SAS-L@uga.cc.edu
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 13:31:18 EDT

One of our statisticians is using PROC MIXED under VMS. When he runs it,
some times he gets an error message of the form:
	ERROR: Unable to allocate sufficient memory. At least XXXXXK bytes
were requested but only YYYYK were available. You must either increase the
amount of memory available, or approach the problem differently.

My question is this: when SAS says 'memory' under VMS, is it talking about
available work space (disk quota) or actual physical memory? Does anyone
know?

dale
dhouston@bio.ri.ccf.org