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From: amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ALADDIN'S SOUND
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:35:51 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <ast10p+@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>In article <Bxqrnx.CzA@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>>who saw it, though.  As I was watching the film (and I have heard this
>>from a few friends), I found that the songs for the most part didn't
>>seem to have enough "ooomph" in the movie.  When I got home, I listened
>>to the soundtrack and heard rich orchestrations and generally I really liked
>>the songs.  But in the theatre, during the songs, I could hear the lyrics, 
>>but the music seemed to fade into the background.  Seems like a sound
>>mixing problem because much of Menken's amazing underscoring is also
>>drowned out.  Perchance has anyone else noticed this?  Please let me
>>know because I felt that the songs are being slighted somewhat by the
>>grandeur of the film...
>
>Maybe you have a superior stereo setup than theater.  Most Disney 
>soundtrack CDs, such as The Little Mermaid, sound different from the 
>actual film soundtrack.

True 'nuff.  For those who haven't seen it yet, it's worth it to drive a 
few more miles to a DECENT theatre with Dolby surround.  The sound system
at the theatre where I saw the preview couldn't even compete with my own
antiquitated stereo system...
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From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Need info for deaf gusts to WDW
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:32:51 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

Believe it or not, I'm in need of help (WDW type that is). I find it odd that
since I'm the local WDW expert (here at work) that I would know all the
answers. This time around I am drawing a blank and I thought that MAYBE someone
out in net-land could help.

   A while back I bought into the Disney Vacation Club (DVC). My wife and I
really enjoy it. That is not the problem so don't blame DVC for anything. For
those out there who missed the postings in the past about DVC, it is alnost
like a time-share but better. You are not stuck with the same week year after
year but you use 'points' to pay for your stay. You receive you allocations of
points every year and the number of points you use depend on the time of year
and the type of accomidations. There is more info but that is not the reason
for this post.

   Sometime in the next year (or maybe the year after) we may reserve the Grand
Villa at DVC. This sleeps 12 people and we thought of inviting a bunch of our
friends including a family that are out neighbors. Here is the problem - The
entire family is deaf. Both parents and both children. Totaly deaf not just
hard of hearing. I know that WDW has considered the needs of the physically
handicapped when constructing the more modern parks, but how well did they plan
for those that are hearing inpared?

   So, ... does anyone out there know of deaf guest(s) at WDW (adult or child)
and how well they enjoyed the place?

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From: trek@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Amy Lynne Plack)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: "Belle" parody & testing II
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:37:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

OK.  Here we go for try number two.  So, now that my signature was posted 
with my email address on it, could someone please send me that "Belle" parody
{the one about college life}?  Sorry for any inconvienience this testing stuff
may have caused any of you.  Thanks!
                                       Amy
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From: speters@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (Stephen Peters)
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:50:25 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
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              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov16.055342.12987@news.columbia.edu> fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.052014.3134@news.unomaha.edu> torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:
>>A reminder:
>>	Ashman and Menken	"Little Shop of Horrors"
>>		song: Mean Green Mother From Outer Space
>>
>>After this song was nominated for Best Song, it was rewritten so that it 
>>would be presentable for television.  LSoH was rated PG-13 (one of the first),
>
>How different is the original song from the TV version? Is the one on
>the CD the original version?

Yes, the song (on the movie soundtrack) is the original version. In
fact, it is, to my knowledge, the only recording of the song. "Mean
Green Mother from Outer Space" is not in the Broadway musical -- it is
one of two songs added for the film (for trivia buffs: the other song
was "Some Fun Now" -- a reworked version of a song from the Broadway
version (whose name I have sadly forgotten -- all I remember is it
opened Act II)).

Anyway, it's interesting to note that every person I've met who wants
to play the voice of the plant in the Broadway version inevitably is
dissapointed that "Mean Green Mother from Outer Space" isn't in his
repertoire. :-)

Stephen Peters
Oracle Sun SBU
I don't speak for Oracle.  Who would speak for an oracle?
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Execs ON THE NET??
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:43:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <BxxLF5.Hy0@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>Could it be that the rec.arts.disney board was set up by Disney executives??
>Are they monitoring our postings?  Surreptitiously gaining insight into the
>mind of the public?  Are Jeffrey Katzenberg's two assistants reporting our
>discussions to him?  If you were an executive at Disney, would you post??
>What is @walt.disney.com?  More interesting than the JFK conspiracy theories,
>eh?

Yes much more interesting than JFK....

Anyway, there is some fairly strong evidence that some people
involved in making the Simpsons have been monitoring
alt.tv.simpsons.  Check out the newsgroup and see for yourself.  Who
knows, it might be true.  I know that if I were a Disney executive,
I'd *certainly* monitor and even post on r.a.d if I could.


- Robert Cook
From: vexar@watserv.ucr.edu (Joe C Solinsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Club 33 -- Disneyland's Best Kept Secret
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:09:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: galaxy.23960

In article <dbarber.721354256@crash.cts.com> dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C.  
Barber) writes:
>Club 33 in New Orleans is perhaps Disneyland's best kept secret.
>Even most employees (I'm told) never get in.
>
>My question is:  Has anybody here on the net been in, and what's
>it like?
>

I talked to a friend who went to it once as a college graduation present.  It  
was a really different world for him.  Service gets re-defined as a word by a  
visit to the club.  There are two kinds of menus, one with a price list, and  
one with just the menu items.  A dinner for two costs around $70, but this was  
about 3 years ago.  If you can go, then do it.  It has to be arranged prior to  
the visit, but you get into Disneyland for free, so they don't hit you with  
that price, too.
-Joe Solinsky
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: TLM found in Hamden, CT(interesting)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:47:43 GMT

fmaurais@noether.WPI.EDU (Francis Maurais) writes:
>OK, last question, concerning B&TB:

I haven't read any discussion concerning the Prince (aka the Beast, before "I
love you").  I personally think he was a royally ugly dude, *not* unlike GARTH 
Wayne's World!  He's certainly nothing like Prince Eric of TLM.  Maybe Disney
wanted to get away from the tall, dark, and handsome image of a prince?!?  I'm
somewhat confused about that...Any comments?

I personally found the Prince very handsome, just in a different way than Eric.
Eric reminded me of an irishman, with the dark hair and pale blue eyes, where
as the Prince looked more European, from the continent, or even Eastern Eurpoean
and I liked his hair better.  I think he really looks like something 
from the Italian Rennaissance in the transformation scene.  Very interesting.

LJC


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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Please email me "hidden Mickeys"
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:20:22 GMT

In article <Bxx62J.5y9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.121051.5978@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> rich2@donner.cc.bellcore.com (marden,richard a) writes:
>>In article <1ebtelINNogv@rodan.UU.NET> leonard@rodan.UU.NET (Lori Leonard) writes:
>>>About a month ago someone posted a wonderful listing of the hidden
>>>Mickeys at WDW and Epcot.  I would greatly appreciate if someone would
>>>email it to me at leonard@uunet.uu.net OR uunet!leonard.  Thanks
>>>-- 
>>>-- 
>>>Lori Leonard     Customer Liaison  leonard@uunet.uu.net
>>
>>Me too please!
>
>
>If anyone has it, please post it.  I'm sure a lot of us would like to see it
>
>Thanks
>
>Rob Dorocke
>(rdorocke@ucs.indiana.edu)

I know of quite a few hidden Mickeys throughout WDW.  If no one posts
the list within a few days, I will try to recompile mine from memory


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Thurl Ravenscroft
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:33:08 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <628@esun179.gdc.com>, heiss@gdc.com (Mark Heiss) writes:
> 
>[SNIP] 
> 1) Is Thurl Ravenscroft still alive (I assume so, since Tony-the-Tiger
>    still sounds pretty good on the commercials), and where does he reside
>    (Mr. Ravenscroft, NOT Tony-the-Tiger)?
> 
> 2) Can anyone think of any other roles or appearances by Mr. Ravenscroft?
>    In particular - what other Disney rides or attractions use his voice?
>
	He was the voice of "Kirby" the vacuum cleaner in "The Brave
Little Toaster".  Great movie, BTW.

> 3) (extra credit) What is Mr. Ravenscroft's neck size? I figure that with 
>    a voice like that, his neck must be about the size of a tree trunk.
>
	I think the only one who comes close to him today is James Earl
Jones.  Now *THERES* a voice!

> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Mark.

					Tom Hancock
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From: bemery@dante.nmsu.edu (Bryan Emery)
Subject: Visiting Disneyland on Thanksgiving Day
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:40:35 GMT

We are taking a vacation to California next week and are planning
to visit Disneyland on Thanksgiving Day.  Does anyone know if this
is a very busy day or if we can look forward to short lines?

Bryan Emery
Graduate Student
New Mexico State University

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:52:37 -0500 
From: Steve_Lammert@transarc.com
Subject: Nestle To Sponsor Epcot Pavilion

Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:27:57 -0500 (EST)

  BURBANK, Calif. -DJ- Walt Disney Co. (DIS) and Nestle S.A.'s (Z.NES)
Nestle USA Inc. said they have entered a new multidivisional strategic
alliance, involving licensing, joint marketing, tie-in promotions and
U.S. theme park participation.   

  In a press release, the companies said that when the long-term agreement
takes effect on Jan. 1, 1993, Nestle will become the sponsor of the Land
pavilion at Epcot Center, as well as the sponsor of many different locations
at Disneyland Park and Walt Disney World Resort.   

  The companies said this agreement marks the latest development in an
expanding international partnership between Nestle and Disney.  Nestle
S.A. is one of 12 founding sponsors at EuroDisneyland and a major Disney
licensee in Europe.   

  12:27 PM


Comment:  Kraft currently sponsors The Land.  Wonder what happened there?

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From: prw@Apple.COM (Paul Wenker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: BatB Ballroom scene
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:45:21 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <lfh317INNe4@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> spitzak@gree.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Every bit of BatB has passed through a computer.  This was also true of the
>Rescuers Down Under, the Prince/Pauper Mickey Mouse short, and a few shots in
>Little Mermaid.
>

The Prince and the Pauper was animated in the "traditional" way.  While
a few of the backgrounds may have been computer generated, production cels
and backgrounds do exist from this short.

-Paul Wenker
-Apple Computer, Inc.
From: gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Purchased Disney Stock. Now What?
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:39:21 GMT
Organization: Hog's Breath is Better than No Breath at All.

In article <1992Nov18.035947.19558@Princeton.EDU> brett@surfpix.princeton.edu (Brett Borowski) writes:

>Her friend's Magic Kingdom Card, does, however, so she'll be
>rebooking.  Any confimations on this?  

I hope she's not making reservations under a friends MKC card.  That
discount is only available for the card holder and his or her immediate
family.  It is NOT transferrable.

Scott

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From: MA.LCD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Jody Sumrall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Thanks
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:34:10 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Hello again,

Well, I guess that my posts are visible all over the place! Thanks
again to everyone who responded.

As to the speculation that Disney folks are reading this group,
after all the responses I received, I can verify this. Someone from
Corporate Information Services at the Walt Disney Studios wrote
asking for the Hidden Mickey List.


Jody
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: more Disney-bashing, Simpsons style
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:56:09 GMT

amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu  writes:
> Ok, who skipped the election coverage Tuesday nite and saw the Simpsons?  I
> don't know if this episode was a rerun or not, but I just loved the
> Disney parodies in this one, in which Homer punishes Bart by not letting him
> see "the movie of our generation", the Itchy and Scratchy Movie...
> (spoiler protection here)
> 
> ...and a TV documentary on the "history" of I&S lists an early cartoon hit,
> "Steamboat Itchy" (or is it Scratchy?), with the mouse (I think it's
> Itchy) whistling and steering the steamboat, *exactly* like Mickey in Steamboat
> Willie--round ears to notch!  Of course, it ends a bit more violently, as I&S
> cartoons always do...
> 
> ...and the theatre marquee announcing 
> 
> 		Classics in Animation!
> 	THE ITCHY AND SCRATCHY MOVIE!!!!!!!
> 
> 	with "Beauty and the Beast" (in very small letters)
> 
> Gotta love it!

It was an original episode.
And please don't repeat the "Be Our Guest" flames of what's appropriate.
It's funny.  Disney is well known.  Disney is ripe for satirization.

Torsten at Omaha
From: leonard@rodan.UU.NET (Lori Leonard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Please email me "hidden Mickeys"
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:58:29 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

About a month ago someone posted a wonderful listing of the hidden
Mickeys at WDW and Epcot.  I would greatly appreciate if someone would
email it to me at leonard@uunet.uu.net OR uunet!leonard.  Thanks
-- 
-- 
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From: allyn@sdd.hp.com (Allyn Fratkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Closed attractions - December?????????
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:43:18 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Nov19.231421.10934@u.washington.edu>, mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "Apple Lady" Lockner) writes:
> In article <1992Nov19.195228.4988@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
> >Hmmm, just 2 weeks ago they also told me that Carousel (sp?)
> >of Progress would also be shut down.
> >
> IS THIS A JOKE?????
> I HOPE so.
> Why is it people forget that the Carousel of Progress died circa 1976
> (to be replaced by "America Sings [Sang]" , which also died in 1988)??

is this a joke?  i hope so.  why is it people forget there is more than
one disney park?  the carousel of progress still lives (at least for
a littel while longer) in the magic kingdom at walt disney world.

i personally like the carousel of progress very much (never got used to
the new song, though), and am sorry to see it go (again).  of course,
that last scene was getting pretty dated.

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From: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Potential cost problems with Westcot
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:21:47 GMT
Reply-To: tanida@esosun.css.gov (Tom Tanida)

Here's something about Westcot.  Keep your fingers crossed.
California is so environmentally self-conscious, I'm not surprised
there are problems (even in Anaheim).  Given that the DL expansion
would create 28,000 jobs and $150M annual public revenue, I'm hoping
the city of Anaheim would work with Disney a little (like Florida did
for Walt when WDW was being conceived).

-Tom
tanida@esosun.css.gov


    ANAHEIM, Calif, Nov 13, Reuter - Walt Disney Co said an environmental impact
study of a proposed new theme park here adjacent to Disneyland confirms the
company's concerns about the feasibility of such a park.
    The draft study of the proposed $3 billion Westcot Center found that most
environmental effects could be mitigated, but only at high cost, said Kerry
Hunnewell, vice president of Disney Development Co. The study was released by
the city of Anaheim.
    "The economics are kind of marginal right now," Hunnewell told Reuters in a
telephone interview.
    "The draft (study's) proposed infrastructure improvements, design features
and mitigation measures are extremely expensive, confirming our fears about the
enormous cost of developing a world-class destination resort in a densely
populated urban environment," Hunnewell said.
    Environmental costs are estimated to represent about $750 million of the
projected $3 billion cost of the park.
    "Given the rough projections of what the revenues would be and given the
rough projections of what costs would be, the economics are very marginal,"
Hunnewell said.
    But Disney is working hard to make the park work, he said.
    "We are keeping our eye focused on the prize, to make this project work,"
Hunnewell said. Disney is not looking at other possible sites in southern
California for a park, he said.
    Earlier this year Disney scrapped plans for a proposed ocean-oriented theme
park in Long Beach, Calif.
    The city of Anaheim is expected to complete its final environmental study on
the proposed park in June or July 1993. In the meantime, Hunnewell said Disney
will be working with the city to see if the project can be made feasible.
    Prices at the proposed park would be consistent with charges at other Disney
parks, Hunnewell said.
From: Ed.Sterrett@f157.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Sterrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re:MGM Expansion
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:08:02 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/157 - Compu-Link II, Orlando FL


 RL> what is to be included in the expansion of the Disney MGM park?
 RL> What is the size, and where is the expansion at (where in the park)?
 
 
  This is a list of planned additions-
 
Dick Tracy's Crime Stoppers-  Ride in speeding patrol cars thru 
                            gangland sets where guests fire their own 
                            guns to stop the crooks.
 
Mickey's Movieland-           Replica of Hyperion Avenue Disney 
                            Studios; hands-on moviemaking equipment.
 
Roger Rabbit's Hollywood-     A group of attractions, shops, and 
                            restaurants centered around the Toon Town
                            Depot.
 
  Baby Herman's Runaway       Ride thru hospital corridors in 
    Baby Buggy-             oversized baby buggies; from "Tummy 
                            Trouble".
 
  Benny the Cab Ride-         Ride in the world's only talking cab.
 
  Terminal Bar and Grill-     Restauant in Toontown
 
  Toontown Trolley-           Simulator ride aboard a Toontown trolley
                            piloted by Roger Rabbit.
 
 
Noah's Ark-                   Nighttime show featuring the symphonic 
                            score composed by Andrew Lloyd Webber.
 
 
  ..plus assorted shops, food locations.     <g>
 
 
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