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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: No Anti-trust protection.. Big problem!
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:35:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.200349.15555@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>
>In a previous article, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) says:
>>The courts have not however extended this anti-trust exemption to any other
>>sport.  
>
>Then how do the NBA, NHL, and NFL exist?

You seem to think that antitrust prohibits any joint ventures between
competing companies, which isn't true; consider the recent IBM-Apple joint
ventures.  It is not essential to have anti-trust exemption to have a
professional sports league.  Not having anti-trust does tend to limit some
of the powers of the league; you can run into difficulties prohibiting
franchise moves, for example.  Another example is that the NFL has changed
the rules on entering the draft rather than face a court challenge to the
draft itself.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: djung@fraser.sfu.ca (Derek Shew Lon Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: F A N Z
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:19:29 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes:

>This acronym appeared on the tube last night:	F ans
>						A gainst
>						N HLPA and
>						Z iegler.

I saw that too....Kinda sums it up nicely, don't you think?

Speaking of which, have there been local demonstration by fans in any 
of the various hockey cities represented on the Net?  In Vancouver, there
were a group of about 30 with various signs (one or two with that above)
parading around the Pacific Coliseum yesterday.  Some rather interesting
chants were going on (they escape me at the moment).

Derek
From: allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Hockey money from Canadian TV
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:15:45 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada

pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:

>Does the NHL get any revenue from Canadian TV? If not, I think the NHL
>should attempt  to get more money from them considering hockey is the
>equivalent of football and baseball  put together for Canada.

Yes, the NHL gets money from the CBC and TSN.

In general, revenues from national TV contracts are divided evenly
among all teams. Revenues from local broadcasts (eg. Toronto's
Global network shows Leaf games, Edmonton's ITV shows Oiler games)
goes to the local teams.

Canadians have been watching hockey for years. (Even with
the fighting ;-)

Allan
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Sherri's Spewing (WAS: Re: Another Lindros)
Summary: get a grip
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:47:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Apr6.114430.380@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey) writes:
> (1) You have misrepresented my views.  Go back and read my other postings.

 I never represented your views at all. I asked you a damn question - take
a pill and get a grip will ya? 

> (2) "You have to be admitted on your academic record" means that they
>     offer scholarhsips to the N brightest students, rather than the K
>     brighest plus the L best atheletes whose academic records meet a
>     certain minimal standard.  Although there have been allegations that
>     some schools have admitted academically sub-standard atheletes, I
>     did not imply this was standard practice.

 I didn't say you did - I asked you which schools and I attempted to calmly
explain why I asked.

> (3) We have lots of foreign grad students in Canada too.  

 OF course, who else would go to school there??? ;-) ;-) That by the way is a 
joke...

> (5) I would argue that "better access" isn't completely accurate ... how 
>     many people can afford to go to Ivy League schools?

 The few who actually pay full tuition I suppose. Funny thing is, those
same Ivy league schools let in students with minimal qualifications if
daddy happens to have graduated from there and is willing to pump a few
extra grand into the university and nobody complains too much about
that - but let a black kid from some inner-city into school for free and
all hell breaks loose.

 as for access in general, the point is an individual can get a quality 
education in this country from state schools, some of which are amongst the
best in the world in many areas for a fraction of what an Ivy league
school would cost. Unlike Europe and the far east, there is an adequate
variety of institutions in this country to meet the needs of most if not
all of our population and seemingly that of many other countries as well.
From the numerous community colleges with their specialized programs to
state comprehensive schools, to state flagship insts. on through the private
and public research insts - the US dominates the world - that is not to
say that US schools are the only quality insts. - of course not, but they are
amongst the best in almost any discipline and they are there in numbers.

 
			gln

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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Raggin' on the Flyers (Re: FLYERS notes 4/1)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:42:19 GMT

In article <ARBOGASTW.78@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>, ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
> Tell me Joe, why are you, as a Flyers fan so upset about the STRIKE?  If 
> memory serves me, the last time the Flyers actually PLAYED hockey at this 
> time of year, the Caps beat them in a seven game OT thriller.  Your beloved 
> Flyers fired Mike Keenan, kept Rick Tocchet, and haven't been heard from 
> since. 

If you must know, I'm a hockey fan.  And if you're a hockey fan, this is
the best time of the year.  Sure, I'd enjoy it much more if the Flyers
were in the play-offs, but I enjoy it none the less.

> If I were a Flyer fan, the end of the strike wouldn't be near as important 
> to me as fielding a team that can someday, hopefully, make a go of it in a 
> league where 16 of the twenty-two teams make the playoffs.

In case you haven't noticed, the Flyers have been making go of it in the
NHL for the past 25 years.  Sure, the team has missed the playoffs for
the past three years, but go to the Spectrum some night when the orange
and black is in town.  The place is packed or very near capacity every
night.  And it has been for as long as I can remember.

And you don't think the Flyers have improved their team for next season?
They have a strong young nucleus to work around and should be in
contention for a playoff spot in the toughest division in hockey for
years to come.

> Warren (aka "idiot")

Well said.

> GO CAPS!
> (And yes, Joe, I know the Flyers won the season series against the Caps this 
> year....But, Joe those are regular season games and nobody outside of Philly 
> and the owners bargaining committee cares too much about these games.)

Funny, I thought the regular season was the main goal of the Caps
organization.  I mean, they have done so well in the regular season the
past few years, yet have nothing to show for it once the playoffs roll
around.  Unless they hang "Patrick Division First Round Playoff Losers"
banners from the rafters at the Cap Center?

And if they do, get ready to hang another one, especially if they host
the Penguins in the first round.  And when you go to that banner raising
ceremony next season, and you look up at it with tears in your eyes,
think about all us smiling Flyers fans.  Because after all, our team had
a little something to do with your team's annual early-exit by sending
Tocchet/Samuelson/Wregget to Pittsburgh.

                                        ______________________
                                       (____________   _____  \
Joe Dakes                               ___________/  /  __ \  \
AT&T Microelectronics                  (__________   /  /  \ \  \
555 Union Boulevard                     _________/  /__ \__/ /  /
Allentown, PA  18103                   (________   / \ \____/  /
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                                            LET'S GO FLYERS!

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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Hockey money from Canadian TV
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:06:25 GMT

pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:
>
>Does the NHL get any revenue from Canadian TV?

The league's national contract money split between all clubs for both
over-the-air (Hockey Night/La Soiree) and cable (TSN) is ~$1 Million
each (from the New York Times).  SportsChannel's "national" contract
is $5 Million total ... previously $17 Million/year for three years
prior.  This shows what a debacle the previous contract negotiations
were.

However, one must note that local coverage is minor up north, while it
is a major component down here in the States due to ownership of the
media outlets by individual club owners in whole or in part.  A caller
to WFAN (in the industry) mentioned that most of the proposed Friday
night games-of-the-week that ESPN would carry were not even on local
broacast schedules (e.g., Devils at Canucks, SCNY) but some owners
(here, McMullen) would just not let go of the rights.

"My marbles!  Mine ... Mine!  Waaahhh!!!"

gld 
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From: tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: SM-LIIGA, Finals, 12th April, Finland
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:43:43 GMT
Organization: City of Tampere

SM-LIIGA, 12th April, FINLAND
================================

5th Final game, 12th, April
JyP HT - Jokerit  0-4 (0-0, 0-2, 0-2)

Jokerit won the championship 4-1.

THE BEST SCORERS
================
Pos. Player      Team         G  A  P  Pen.
------------------------------------------------
 1) Teemu Selanne Jokerit    10+ 7=17 (18)
 2) Otakar Janecky Jokerit    2+11=13 ( 6)
 3) Keijo Sailynoja Jokerit   5+ 6=11 ( 2)
 4) Jari Lindroos JyP HT      5+ 5=10 ( 2)
 5) Ari Haanpaa JyP HT        6+ 2= 8 ( 8)
 6) Harri Tuohimaa HIFK       5+ 3= 8 ( 2)
 7) Sami Wahlsten Jokerit     4+ 4= 8 ( 2)
 8) Juha Riihijarvi JyP HT    4+ 4= 8 (10)
 9) Drahomir Kadlec HIFK      2+ 6= 8 ( 6)
10) Pekka Jarvela Jokerit     2+ 6= 8 (10)
11) Iiro Jarvi HIFK           3+ 4= 7 ( 2)
12) Waltteri Immonen Jokerit  3+ 4= 7 ( 4)
13) Jari Levonen Assat        4+ 2= 6 ( 4)
14) Kari Kanervo Assat        3+ 3= 6 (16)
15) Timo Norppa Jokerit       2+ 4= 6 ( 2)
16) Jukka Seppo HIFK          2+ 4= 6 (33)
17) Rauli Raitanen Assat      1+ 5= 6 ( 2)
18) Valeri Krykov HIFK        4+ 1= 5 ( 2)
19) Darren Boyko HIFK         2+ 3= 5 ( 0)
    Mikko Makela TPS          2+ 3= 5 ( 0)
21) Rami Koivisto Jokerit     2+ 3= 5 ( 2)
22) Jali Wahlsten Jokerit     2+ 3= 5 ( 8)
23) Marko Virtanen JyP HT     2+ 3= 5 (10)
24) Mika Stromberg Jokerit    2+ 3= 5 (16)
25) Hannu Virta TPS           1+ 4= 5 ( 0)
26) Mika Arvaja JyP HT        1+ 4= 5 ( 2)
27) Harri Laurila JyP HT      1+ 4= 5 ( 4)

5th Final game, 12th, April
===========================
-----------------------------------------------------------------

JyP HT - Jokerit  0-4 (0-0, 0-2, 0-2)
 25.43  0-1  Teemu Selanne (Otakar Janecky) 
 33.15  0-2  Sami Wahlsten 
 44.38  0-3  Selanne (Janecky) 
 56.23       JyP HT timeout
 58.48       Jokerit timeout
 59.34  0-4  Heikki Riihijarvi (Pekka Jarvela)  (eq)
Penalties: JyP HT 3 x 2 min and Tero Lehikoinen 10 min, Jokerit 5 x 2 min and
                                                        Teemu Selanne 10 min
Saves:     Ari-Pekka Siekkinen Jy 9+11+6=26 (out 56.32-59.34)
           Markus Ketterer Jo 9+13+10=32
Referees:  Seppo Makela (Jyrki Ikavalko - Reijo Ringbom)
Attendance: 4 812
-- 
---
Kimmo Kauranen  *  Department of Information Technology
                *  City of Tampere, FINLAND
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Playoff Format
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:00:19 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department

In article <1992Apr15.053758.29478@wuecl.wustl.edu> jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes:
>
>  Since there has been much talk about the Isles and the Flyers missing the
>playoffs. I would suggest that the NHL uses the NBA playoff format which
>would have the best 8 teams in in each of the conferences.
>  
>  The winner of each division will have the number one and two seeds
>and the rest will be determined based on their number of points.  On this
>given format the Isles and the Flyers would have made it to the playoffs
>based on their better record than the Whalers and the Sabres. We also would
>have more different playoff series. The matchups would have been something 
>something like the following:
>
> 1 N.Y Rangers_________                                 ______ 1 Detroit   
> 8 Philadelphia        |                               |       8 Calgary 
>                       |------                   ------|        
> 4 New Jersey__________|      |                 |      |______ 4 LA Kings 
> 5 Pittsburgh                 |      STANLEY    |              5 St. Louis 
>                               -------   ------- 
> 3 Washington__________       |        CUP      |       ______ 3 Chicago 
> 6 Boston              |      |                 |      |       6 Edmonton    
>                       |------                   ------|  
> 2 Montreal____________|                               |______ 2 Vancouver 
> 7 NY Islanders                                                7 Winnipeg 
>
>

Why make concessions for teams not in the top half of the league
like Philadelphia...is the above playoff system fair for Detroit,
who may have to make three long 2 time-zone trips to Calgary, while
the eastern teams have short bus trips or flights in the same time
zone...this proposed system introduces travel disparities for
the teams that finish high in the Smythe and in the Norris which
will hurt their chances in later rounds.  This is a greater
unfairness than Philadelphia missing the playoffs because the
Patrick was particularly tough this year...any unfairness in
division will balance out over time...the fourth place team
in the Patrick may benefit from the existing rule sometime in
the future, but the travel disparity in this conference set-up
will exist year to year putting teams in the two Western
divisions at a permanent disadvantage.


Gerald
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From: ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Pens, Martha meet to discuss strike
Keywords: Martha: Making bid for NHL president?
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:30:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr09.161057.30551@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:

>I appreciate what Paul Martha is trying to do.  He is trying to salvage the 
>NHL season, and the NHL as a league.  And I also think he is campaigning to 
>be the next league president. (IMHO)

>As for Johnny boy, he cut his own throat.  The owners like having a 
>controllable jerk as president, as long as he doesn't look like a controllable
>jerk to the media and public.  We fans have always know Ziegler was a few 
>bricks shy of the load, but now a lot more people know.  During the press
>conferences, he comes across like a slow-witted fool.  He looks and acts 
>clueless.

>Martha can handle the media quite well.  And he has the presidental "look".
>Meaning he's tall (Don't laugh, it's been proven that height can influence
>a person's decision when voting), he looks intelligent and in control, and he's
>attractive.  Apperances are half the battle.  You look good, people think you
>are good.

I'm not laughing.  This sounds like what I've been saying about marketing.

Warren
From: ken@hooters.East.Sun.COM (Ken Harford - Corp. Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens-1 Devils-5
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:49:18 GMT
Reply-To: ken@hooters.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hooters.east.sun.com

I assume the Pens open up with N.Y. if the standings stay as they are now. Should be 
an excellent series. I am personally a real Messier fan and it will be interesting to 
see what Neilsen will do with the LST line. Lemieux, Stevens and Tocchet!!


What was the tally in the regular season???


Ken
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From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down)
Subject: Hockey Night in Canada (Was Re: Toronto Maple Leafs)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:16:13 GMT

shayne@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia MANCINI) writes:

>In article <1992Apr15.005453.21265@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> ash@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (David Ash) writes:

>>When I watched Hockey Night in Canada this past Christmas when I was home,
>>I was promised the Leafs in "Southern Ontario".  Evidently Belleville wasn't
>>considered "S. Ontario", so I was treated to the Flames instead.  I don't
>>know if this was typical, but when the closest NHL team is shunned by
>>television, how are people supposed to stay/get interested in the product?
>>I've had better luck catching the Sharks on TV out here.

>The Leafs aren't the only team that they've screwed over.     
>HNIC's broadcasting basically sucks. 
>They have a monopoly, so I don't think things will get any better.

>>David W. Ash

>-- Lydia


Well, this just about takes the cake. A Hab fan (living in
Montreal) and a Leaf fan (visiting Ontario), complaining about
the coverage their teams receive on Molson's Hockey Night in Canada. 

Astounding.

I know a number of residents of the Atlantic Provinces and
probably the west (in the 60's and 70's prior to expansion)
don't share your sentiments.

I have complaints about HNIC's coverage as well. However, not
showing enough Leaf and Hab games aren't amoung them.
Undoubtedly, one of the reasons I dislike the Habs and Leafs
results from the force feeding I've received in earlier years.

Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu)
From: gomer@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: FLYERS notes 4/1
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:14:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <oyuyiB2w164w@cellar.org> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>Well, it was clearly his strategy this time.  Acton is certainly not afraid
>of Ulf Samuelsson, not the way Ulf's been playing this season.

I thought we had been over this.  Get it straight, Tommy.  Acton has never
demonstrated even the briefest moment of courage towards anyone that I've
ever witnessed, whether you want to admit it or not.  It wouldn't surprise
me if he were screaming for heavenly intervention while he pathetically
covered himself.  It doesn't surprise me that he wouldn't tangle with Ulf
like a man, since he rarely does it, of course. 
>
>>  Rather, it is done to keep one from getting the shit kicked out
>> of him.   Even though it "worked", you don't see players doing it every
>> day, and somehow I doubt that Rick Tocchet will resort to your "turtling
>> strategy" any time soon.
>
>MY "turtling strategy"?  You haven't seen this before?

I certainly haven't seen anyone act as though it were an act of significant
accomplishment, as you seem to.  And if you like, we can call if officially
your strategy.  Or we don't have to.  Whatever makes you happiest.

>I don't know what to say.

I know.  That's painfully obvious.
>
>> >That "other verbiage" you chose to ignore, rather than respond to, was a
>> >series of clear and irrefutable examples demonstrating why your "All Flyers
>> >fans have no right to complain about violence" theory is about as 
>> >intelligent and logical as locking up all blacks because Willie Horton 
>> >committed a crime.
>> 
>> Gee whiz, if you say so.  And here I thought I was sparing you the
>> embarrassment of having me whittle it apart.
>
>If you could have done so, you would have.  This is clear to everyone who
>followed this thread.  Your utter failure to justify your remark serves
>nicely as admission that you were completely wrong.

Frankly, I think you failed your Delaware County Community College
logic course, Tommy.  You reach amazing conclusions some times.
Let's just, for a minute, suppose what I was going to argue against.
Most of your retorts were limited to  "you're lying", or "that never
happened", or "you made that up", or "you've pee'ed on yourself".
There isn't much future in going around in a circle over that stuff.

>Apology, please.

Actually, I think nature owes us all apology, Tom.  Allowing your genes
to come together the way they did was truly criminal.
>
>> Well, I will stop far short of that.  [petty cheap-shots deleted]

Sigh.  Who mentioned urination and masturbation first, Tommy?  Kate Smith?

End of public discussion, Bud.  Feel free to send mail to continue.
If you must.

rick
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Perfect record??
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:44:13 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)

ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>>
>>The Rangers won this year's President's Cup with a 50-25-5 record;
>>just out of curiosity, what was the *worst* season points winner 
>>in an 80 game season? (-;
>
>The Caps won only eight games and tied just 5 in their first year for a 
>total of 21 points.  And if that's not the record for worst point total,

Actually, I meant "who finished first in the league with the LEAST
points" -- les Habs did it with a high of 132 (60-8-12) while the
Rangers have 105 this year ... could that be the worst? (-;

gld
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From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Kvalserien (Sweden), fourth round 15/4
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:44:31 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden


KVALSERIEN, fourth round, Wednesday 15/4:
=========================================

Vita Hasten-Sodertalje 4-6 (2-2,1-0,1-4)

VH: Thomas Norrgard 3, Mikael Johansson
S: Thom Eklund 2, Bjorn Carlsson, Morgan Samuelsson, Peter Ekroth, Jan Bergman
Penalties: VH 7*2min, S 5*2min   Att: 3,756

Team Boro-Leksand 4-5 (2-0,0-2,2-3)

TB: Anders Jonsson, Claes Roupe, Ivan Hansen, Nick Karlsson
L: Magnus Svensson, Roger Johansson, Niklas Eriksson, Markus Akerblom,
   Jonas Bergqvist
Penalties: TB 3*2min 1*10min, L 4*2min   Att: 2,312

As you can see, a small miracle is bound to happen for Sodertalje to finish
first. Leksand has to lose their remaining games while Sodertalje needs to
win their remaining games _and_ make up for the 11-goal difference between the
two teams.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
KVALSERIEN:                                     Standings:    GP W T L GF-GA P
 8/4: Sodertalje-Leksand 4-7, Vita H-Boro 4-2         
10/4: Leksand-Vita H 7-1, Boro-Sodertalje 5-2   1. Leksand     4 4 0 0 23-11 8
12/4: Sodertalje-Vita H 5-0, Leksand-Boro 4-2   ------------------------------
15/4: Vita H-Sodertalje 4-6, Boro-Leksand 4-5   2. Sodertalje  4 2 0 2 17-16 4
17/4: Vita H-Leksand ?-?, Sodertalje-Boro ?-?   3. Team Boro   4 1 0 3 13-15 2
19/4: Leksand-Sodertalje ?-?, Boro-Vita H ?-?   4. Vita Hasten 4 1 0 3  9-20 2
*Winner to ELITSERIEN.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Staffan
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