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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Periodic Post of the Newsgroup Charter  (was Re: Net etiquette)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:50:52 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
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Carolyn Churchill (cpc.systems@mhs.unc.edu) wrote:

> What about using the addresses of posters to solicit.  Since posting a few
> messages, I have been getting solicitation mail from several MLMs,

Was one of those a totally incomprehensible sheet from someone involved with
something called "Laran Communications"?  I couldn't figure out what the
"product" was supposed to be; it looked like a chain letter disguised as
some sort of "marketing".  If someone is going to invest a stamp, they at
least could send something the recipient has a chance of understanding.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
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                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
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From: karenm@yenta.alb.nm.us (Karen Millar)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Barbara Marciniak in Santa Fe NM !!
Keywords: channel
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:47:44 GMT
Organization: yenta unix pc, rio rancho, nm



I have wanted to meet this woman for a long time, perhaps two years
now, and I have my chance next week! Barbara Marciniak who has been
working for some time now as a channel for the group entity calling
themselves the Pleiadians will be in Santa Fe New Mexico next week.
I am excited, and I hope that all who are interested are able to 
be there too. 

Here is the info as it appeared in the Sedona Journal of Emergence
with a little embellishment (the specific address) included :-)




			BARBARA MARCINIAK
		    "Channeling the Pleiadians"
			Event Schedule

Santa Fe:
	Church of Religious Science, 505 Camino de los Marquez
	Nov 13 7:00 PM (with Barbara Hand Clow)	$ 20	lecture
	Nov 14-15 (with Barbara Marciniak only)	$100	workshop
		contacts:	Joan Gulino	(505) 989-9209
				Dale McElroy	(505) 438-7035
				Terresa Buchan	(505) 982-8348

Phoenix:
	Nov 18		contact: Linda Wright (602) 226-1808

Sedona:
	Nov 20-22	contact: Karen Carlson (919) 828-9292

Note: preregistration required for Sedona workshop which is reportedly
full as of this date. 



-- 
    Love is the answer...
	Communication Facilities Designer
	Freelance in the Land of Enchantment              Albuquerque, NM
	karenm@yenta.alb.nm.us                             (505) 266-8659
From: acsop20@megalon (Ashley Bowers)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Kirlian (sp) Emanations Help.
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:29:31 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: megalon.acs.appstate.edu
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


	Myself and a friend are doing a research project on paranormal 
events.  We would like some info on generating the Kirlian effect.  
Specifically, what do we need to do go about this.

Please E-mail the info.

	Any help greatly appreciated.


	Thanks,

	Ash Bowers      acsop20@megalon.acs.appstate.edu
			arb@sc.cs.appstate.edu

			(Bob the Wonder Poodle)
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: E-mail Correspondence Request
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:40:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have a number of items that I would like to discuss, via email,
with someone who has extensive knowledge and/or experience with
channelling and premonitions.

If this is the wrong newsgroup, I would appreciate it if someone
would tell me what newsgroup I should contact.

Thanks,

-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
From: Lauren.Podolak@mechanic.Fidonet.org (Lauren Podolak)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Kibo's Psykik Prediktion
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 23:35:00 PDT
Organization: Mechanic: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway oF St. Pete Florida

J"P>>
J"P>>           WIZARD:  THE NOSTRADAMUS OF MOTION PICTURES?
J"P>>
J"P>>>>O great Psychic Wizard: Who will win the Presidential Election?
J"P>>
J"P>>Psychic Wizard Answer @:)  Nobody will win.      (Sorry, Kibo)

J"P>Here's my own prediction:

J"P>POPULAR VOTE:    44% Bush, 42% Clinton, 11% Perot
J"P>    (I made that prediction before Perot left and re-entered; I feel it is
J"P>    still accurate, although the Perot number may be a little high.)

J"P>ELECTORAL VOTE:  70% Bush, 30% Clinton, 0% Perot
J"P>    (This is much harder to call, except for the Perot number.)

Oh Great Wizard! you have fallen thy arse.....

Lauren
___
 X OLX 2.1 TD X Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up


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From: ron_s@verifone.com
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Yabble Bubbah -- introducing
Date: 26 Oct 92 11:48:39 -1000
Organization: VeriFone Inc., Honolulu HI

Introducing: Yabble Bubbah

   Yabble Bubbah established his elevated selfless soulhood
by perfecting the "suckya pithy" orgasmic ohmed-out mantra
while meditating for 12 years in the remote Himalayas, (well
above the tree line).

   While meditating, he grew a mystic mole on the end of his
exposed nose, and one of his eyebrow hairs grew to 12 inches
in length, proof that his spirit is descended from the
sacred Omni-inter-accommodative one, also known as "The Light
in the Pit"

   Yabble Bubbah now can levitate at will, just like Daniel
Douglas Home, and has the power to heal hemorrhoids just by
uttering the sacred words " Offameeyousuckingprickriti "

aloha
 

Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
From: g91a2724@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR GJ ANDREWS)
Subject: exorcism
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:31:45 GMT

Anybody got info on exorcism? Please e-mail me or post here. Thanks
Greg
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal,alt.alien.visitors
From: Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: Kirlian (sp) Emanations Help.
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:28:26 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu


  Please post on the net too.

**********************************************************************
* Arthur, king of the Britons    * King of the who?                  *
* King of the Brittons!          * Who are the Brittons anyway?      *
* I am, you are, we all are the  *                                   *
* Brittons and I am your king!   * Well, I didn't vote for you.      *
**********************************************************************
Robert T. Warfield@dartmouth.edu
From: punisher@iastate.edu (Frank Castiglione)
Newsgroups: alt.paranormal
Subject: Wanted: Information about Rencor(sp)
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:32:29 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

I would like information about a "spirit" by the name of
Rencor(sp).

Any and all is appreciated,

Thanks.

/---------------------------------------\
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|---------------------------------------|  person and others is not a lack of
|  InterNet  punisher@iastate.edu       |  strength, not a lack of knowledge,
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Newsgroups: alt.paranormal,alt.out-of-body,alt.pagan
From: reykja@fc.hp.com (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Subject: Re: Psychics and other related phenomena
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:37:41 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Stephen Kuhn (SWK105@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:
: Does anybody out there really, truly, and above all, HONESTLY Believe in all of
:  the psychic,etc., BULLSHIT?

      Gosh, that is an interesting way to put it. ;-)

      Someone was talking about this in an earlier thread and I think he
put it really well. The essence of his message was that psychic 
phenomena can not be actually proven or disproven because it comes from
intuition, emotions and 'feelings' (meaning senses, I would assume,
rather than just 'emotion'). 

      Look up the thread "Any Atheist Pagans Out There?" for a detailed
answer. The response I am referring to is by G. Wolfe Woodbury (I believe
that is the name. I remember the 'Wolfe'.)


//rks
From:  (Spike)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: Virtual Amigas?
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:59:12 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cyberspace
Organization: GE Power Generation

In article <Gandalf.19.720878132@cs.sun.ac.za>, Gandalf@cs.sun.ac.za
(Gandalf) wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a discussion on Virtual Reality for Amigas...
> is there something like this out there.... and who works with it?
> Please talk to me....
> --- Gandalf
> +------------------------ UNIVERSITY OF STELLENBOSCH ------------------------+
> |   Christiaan Keet  -  PO Box 6193  -  Welgemoed  -  7538  -  South-Africa  |
> |   E-MAIL (pref): Keet@cs.sun.ac.za      or      9118543@sunvax.sun.ac.za   |
> +------------------------ Only AMIGA makes it possible! ---------------------+

I don't know if this answers your question, exactly, but I think you might
find it interesting. 
The only company I know of which currently has commercial VR is Virtuality.
And all of their
games run on Amigas. To which I can only say: Yaay!

Spike (Not Jones)
(Obviously not your average Amiga fan)
From: billc@Apple.COM (Bill Cockayne)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Macintosh VR
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:56:34 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

If you want to do "real" VR AND have money left to eat with, do not
throw out Macs or PCs.

On the PC side you can used REND386 (which is free) which does some real nice
stuff and already has drivers for PowerGloves and SEGA 3D glasses. It also
has a huge following all over the net so you can usually find someone that
has had the same problems that you are having. And everyone using it is 
real helpful. Also coming out soon is WorldToolKit from Sense8, which is
only THE premiere world generator, no matter the platform. And the way I 
understand it is that you can use worlds generated on Sun, IRIS, or PC on 
each platform.

As for forgetting the Mac, you seem to forget that one of the Macintosh
computers is presently the FASTEST pc on the market (yes it blows 586 machines
away) (oh yeah, don't compare a pc running DOS to a Mac, DOS is outdated).
Using a program called Walkthrough, by Virtus Corporation, you can have fully functioning worlds created after about 10 minutes. And the interface of Pgloves and SEGA glasses already exist.         
The other very nice toy is something from StereoGraphics, which are a pair of
stereo glasses that give you the perception of 3D using their controller and
glasses and normal hardware and software. I have used this many a time to
create a world in Virtus and let people walk around with me. (Since the
image is generated on the screen you can have multiple people with glasses
looking at the screen at the same time.) These glasses also work on PCs and'
I think on workstations.

Not everyone can afford workstation power, yet everyone should have the 
chance to do really cool work in VR.

bill cockayne
billc@apple.com
DISCLAIMER: Yes, I work for Apple Computer, but I do most of my VR stuff on
an IRIS Crimson. I have done the above stuff on Macs, and know people using
PCs.
From: IO21050@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Hell ain't so bad. I mean, look@this tan!)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: ROBO-COPULATION
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:27:57 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I don't know how all of this got started (and judging by some of the
tangents that have occurred I have no idea where it will go) but
Steven G. seems to have made the most intelligent (and sarcastic)
posting yet.  WAY TO GO, STEVE!!!
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(Maybe someone could inform me how this started...)

Frank-O
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From: llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace,alt.culture.usenet
Subject: Re: Info needed. URGENT!!
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:11:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cyberspace
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Fung Yee Selinia Ng (fng@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:

: Could you please LIST THREE (OR MORE) DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ONLINE
: FRIENDSHIPS AND OFFLINE FRIENDSHIPS??

online, age differences mean a lot less. you get to talking to
someone, make friends, and then discover the person is 12 years
younger (or older) than you are. doesn't seem to matter as much online
as it would of.

realted to this is that through the computer i've met and become close
to people i probably would never have encountered or noticed
otherwise. although it's not true that race and gender become
non-factors online, people do tend to be accepted (or rejected) more
on the basis of personality than on appearance.

online friendships also seem to develop faster and with increased
intensity. it makes sense; it's easier to open up to someone in the
semi-anonymous space of the net.

the man i'm in love with is someone i met on the net. the relationship
has had all the characteristics i've mentioned... he read some
articles i'd posted and emailed me. i answered, we started talking
five hours a day (that's slowed down a little now) online and
occasionally voice, he flew down here, he's moving here next year. and
we both agree that it couldn't have happened anywhere but on the net.
besides the fact that we live nine states apart, neither one of us
looks like someone the other would hang out with, even though we're
very much the same in the wya we think about things and look at life.
and there's an age difference, too; he's 22 and i'm 29.

--
sine nomine | debbie martinson
the whole thing is just truly amazing.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Glasses needed
From: Macbeth@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu (Macbeth)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:06:49 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT USA


Does anyone out there know where I can get the following for a decent price:

1. Infra-Red goggles
2. 10X - 50X binocular goggles (monocoles also accepted)
3. Ultraviolet scanner (with/without screen)
4. Pen-like red laser (or glove with embeded laser)

All this is necessary for a research project. Any info, addresses, offers, 
etc... are highly appreciated.

						Greetings,

						Macbeth
From: v067rcyf@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (AARDVARK)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: Glasses needed
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:40:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Macbeth.9.721411609@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu>, Macbeth@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu (Macbeth) writes...
> 
>Does anyone out there know where I can get the following for a decent price:
> 
>1. Infra-Red goggles
>2. 10X - 50X binocular goggles (monocoles also accepted)
>3. Ultraviolet scanner (with/without screen)
>4. Pen-like red laser (or glove with embeded laser)
> 
>All this is necessary for a research project. Any info, addresses, offers, 
>etc... are highly appreciated.
> 
>						Greetings,
> 
>						Macbeth
ever hear of the catalog U.S. Cavalry?
they've got that stuff
and all sorts of other military
hardware
not too cheap
but accessible
                    ------------------aardvark

           my first post to
           this group....
           i'm so proud of me
From: grimjack@milton.u.washington.edu (Leslie Basel)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: Virtual Amigas?
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:52:39 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <Gandalf.19.720878132@cs.sun.ac.za> Gandalf@cs.sun.ac.za (Gandalf) writes:
>I'm looking for a discussion on Virtual Reality for Amigas...
>is there something like this out there.... and who works with it?
>Please talk to me....
>--- Gandalf
>+------------------------ UNIVERSITY OF STELLENBOSCH ------------------------+
>|   Christiaan Keet  -  PO Box 6193  -  Welgemoed  -  7538  -  South-Africa  |
>|   E-MAIL (pref): Keet@cs.sun.ac.za      or      9118543@sunvax.sun.ac.za   |
>+------------------------ Only AMIGA makes it possible! ---------------------+

Well, I have some material from a group called Mandala (Virtual World 
Aurthoring System) that is produced by _the Vivid Group_ -- they are located
at 317 adelaide St. w
   ste 302
   Toronto, Ontario
   CANADA M5V 1P9
   (416) 340-9290 (FAX 3489809)

Another step is the ami tech conversion of a power-glove for use on an
amiga (uh, whoopee!?) that is the tech mag. run parallel with amazing
computing - I think it was in the first issue

If you hear of anything on the nets Please let me know.

Rodger
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: helgeu@dhhalden.no (Helge Rene Uholm)
Subject: Re: PowerGlove VR
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:57:20 GMT

jnewman@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

>Does anyone know where to get ahold of the Nintendo PowerGlove?  Recently,
>specs for a low-budget VR system for the Mac were released in Mondo2000, and 
>it uses the PowerGlove for input.  I know they've been discontinued, but there
>must still be some around.
>           Leave info for JNEWMAN@hamp.hampshire.edu
>                                  -Josh 

	The tips I got is to try The Toys R US (or something like that). The 
word is that some of these shops may have some rest of the PowerGlove.

helgeu@dhhalden.no

Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: argent@iastate.edu (Christopher L Jorgensen)
Subject: Re: Macintosh VR
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
        Please, if this is inappropriate to this group, I apologize.
	Sorry my editor sucks!
        Thanks.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:50:40 GMT

-- 
argent@iastate.edu       | They called me the fool, they called me the child
The Great Grendle-Knan,  | I found an angel of the night;
Earth rim roamer.        | The voice was low, the look was bright;
                         | She looked upon my crown and smiled. -Tennyson-
From: strat@wyatt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: Virtual Amigas?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 14:58:23 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: wyatt.ksu.ksu.edu

watpod72@alfred.carleton.ca (George Bragg) writes:

>Yeah, but they've been hacked all to hell.  They don't even use the
>original graphics chips on the Amiga, but some special ones.  

For the record, there are two major pushes in Amiga VR at present.
The first uses two DMI graphics cards (TIGA), one driving each eye,
and sensory input data.  The other is with consumer-grade equipment
and Amiga's own chips.  The Amiga 4000 series (well, I guess there's
only one in the series at present :) has a new chipset that will do >
256 colors at about any resolution.  Anyone who doesn't need stereo
vision can use a stock 4000 to build up a pretty decent VR system for
under $6K.

Stratocaster
-- 
	   Steve Davis (I'm a student, not a spokesperson!)
      strat@cis.ksu.edu - Kansas State University - Manhattan KS
				   
       PC's?  Blech.  Who wants a politically correct computer?
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: jnewman@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: PowerGlove VR
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:21:59 GMT

Does anyone know where to get ahold of the Nintendo PowerGlove?  Recently,
specs for a low-budget VR system for the Mac were released in Mondo2000, and 
it uses the PowerGlove for input.  I know they've been discontinued, but there
must still be some around.
           Leave info for JNEWMAN@hamp.hampshire.edu
                                  -Josh 

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From: CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace,alt.culture.usenet
Subject: Re: Info needed. URGENT!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:03:06 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Online, you can never be sure your pal is a BEM with three tenacles. On the
other hand, you can never be really sure about your offline friends. Just ask
my good buddy Phil Dick (don't mind the smell, he hasn't been feeling well
since he died). Right, Kibo?

Mitch Hagmaier         One Moment in Annilihation's Waste,
Quest Laboratories     One Monent, of the Well of Life to taste-
Terraforming Division   The Stars are setting and the Caravan
State College, Pa      Starts for the Dawn of Nothing - Oh, make haste!
cmh114@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: dstampe@psych.toronto.edu (Dave Stampe)
Subject: Re: virtual reality hackers?
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:11:59 GMT

halabe@andersen.uucp (Dan Halabe) writes:
>
>>All the source is available, so you can program as much as you want.
>
>Does this package or any you know of render bitmaps as seen from arbitrary
>angles?
>
You mean texture mapping.  Unfortunately not.  While texture mapping 
(a la Castle Wolfenstein 3D) of that type can be done, unfortunately it's too
slow unless the range of viewing angles and polygon shapes are limited.
Wolfenstein limits itself to rectangular shaped viewed from the midline.
Ultima Underworld allows the viewing angle to be somewhat different, but
is slower.  I've been looking at a texture mapper for REND386, but the
speed is just not good enough yet.

e
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
From: argent@iastate.edu (Christopher L Jorgensen)
Subject: Re: Macintosh VR
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
	I am interested in VR.  I was wondering what exactly is possible up to
 3d movie for novelty.  I would like to know what the cheapest way to get
	Please, if this is inappropriate to this group, I apologize.  Also, if
	Thanks.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:11:41 GMT







-- 
argent@iastate.edu       | They called me the fool, they called me the child
The Great Grendle-Knan,  | I found an angel of the night;
Earth rim roamer.        | The voice was low, the look was bright;
                         | She looked upon my crown and smiled. -Tennyson-
From: halabe@andersen.uucp (Dan Halabe)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace
Subject: Re: virtual reality hackers?
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:25:08 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA

dstampe@psych.toronto.edu (Dave Stampe) writes:

>bchang@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Chang) writes:

>>anybody here working on VR's?  i'm putting together one on an IBM platform
>>with the PowerGlove.  My biggest problem right now is that my 3D display
>>algorithms are horibly slow, even on a 386...

>Get REND386, from sunee.uwaterloo.ca.  It is a 386/486 PC based package
>which has very fast graphics-- 30 frames/sec on a 500-poly scene on
>a 486/50 PC.  It has integral Sega glasses and Powerglove support.
>I used it to put together a system this summer, using monochome HMDs
>and other stuff.

>All the source is available, so you can program as much as you want.

Does this package or any you know of render bitmaps as seen from arbitrary
angles?

Dan H.
halabe@andersen.com
Newsgroups: alt.cyberspace