From: agray@axion.bt.co.uk (Andy Gray)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Help needed, please, and quickly
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:27:31 GMT
Organization: BT Laboratories


HELP ... I've been asked to do a chart for 25th May 1200 for my local town for
the coming year. Going through to the Astrological Association here in the UK
they have given me the chart information (official date for the town plus the
positions of the planets, ascendant, MC, and node). I've dialled this into
astrolog (v2.30) and I get ballpark figures for some of the inner planets, but
from Jupiter out things are way out, for example

	astrolog -a 5 25 1200 0.00 0 -1.10 52.04 

Astrolog (2.30) chart for 25 May 1200 0:00 (+0:00 GMT)   1'10E 52'04N
Body  Locat. Ret. Decl. Rul.      House  Rul. Veloc.    Placidus Houses.

Sun : 10Gem12   + 0,00' (-) [ 3rd house] [-] +0.955  -  House cusp  1: 16Aqu55
Moon:  4Lib32   + 5,02' (-) [ 7th house] [-] ______  -  House cusp  2: 18Ari27
Merc: 19Tau02   - 3,58' (-) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.507  -  House cusp  3: 21Tau30
Venu: 26Ari37   - 2,23' (F) [ 2nd house] [R] +0.730  -  House cusp  4: 12Gem14
Mars: 17Pis26   - 2,19' (-) [ 1st house] [R] +0.688  -  House cusp  5: 29Gem27
Jupi: 26Sco30 R + 1,11' (-) [ 9th house] [R] -0.139  -  House cusp  6: 18Can01
Satu: 12Pis49   - 1,55' (-) [ 1st house] [d] +0.037  -  House cusp  7: 16Leo55
Uran: 20Can44   + 0,30' (-) [ 6th house] [-] +0.050  -  House cusp  8: 18Lib27
Nept: 25Ari50   - 0,07' (-) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.029  -  House cusp  9: 21Sco30
Plut: 28Leo03   + 9,47' (-) [ 7th house] [-] +0.006  -  House cusp 10: 12Sag14
Chir: 22Cap14 R + 7,12' (d) [12th house] [R] -0.035  -  House cusp 11: 29Sag27
Cere:  7Cap34 R - 4,51' (d) [11th house] [-] -0.162  -  House cusp 12: 18Cap01
Pall:  8Pis00   +16,13' (F) [ 1st house] [-] +0.116
Juno: 10Vir23   + 4,42' (-) [ 7th house] [R] +0.174     Car Fix Mut TOT   +: 9
Vest:  9Gem28   - 2,07' (-) [ 3rd house] [-] +0.433  Fir  2   1   1   4   -:11
Node: 19Can56 R + 0,00' (-) [ 6th house] [e] ______  Ear  2   1   2   5   M: 8
Fort: 11Gem14   _______ (d) [ 3rd house] [d] ______  Air  1   1   3   5   N:12
Midh: 12Sag14   _______ (-) [10th house] [R] ______  Wat  2   1   3   6   A:13
Asce: 16Aqu55   _______ (-) [ 1st house] [R] ______  TOT  7   4   9  20   D: 7
Vert: 14Vir20   _______ (d) [ 7th house] [R] ______                       <:11

Expected positions were

	Jupiter	18Sco36	( 6 degrees)
	Saturn	17Pis22	( 5 degrees)
	Uranus	22Can12	( 2 degrees)
	Neptune	18Pis30	(37 degrees)
	Pluto	28Can40	(30 degrees)

I know there have been a number of time changes throughout the years, but some of
these positions are quite wildly out. I've used the -F <obj> <sign> <degree>
facility in astrolog, but it doesn't enable me to state that Jupiter is
retrograde, and the ascendant appears on the chart, but the program recalculates
the house cusps regardless of that value. My ephemeris cannot help me out :-(

The original data was drawn up by Harold Wrigglesworth.

If anyone can guide me I would be very grateful. At present I have the transits
and progressions based on the fixed (-F) chart, but am a little dubious,
especially since Jupiter starts life in the wrong motion which would screw up
the progressions. 

I can work out much from the (drawn) chart, using equal houses, and the
ephemeris, but the chart has to be done within the next couple of days and is
causing me a little concern <Bwaah> :-( A generated chart would look really
impressive.

Also any clues on how you represent the community in a town chart?

The program has served me well so far, and not many charts are cast that far
back!

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