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From: steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Kantronics KPC-1?
Date: 11 Oct 1992 20:40:02 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Reply-To: steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: nemesis.ksu.ksu.edu

davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan) writes:

>Found this guy, the KPC-1, at a flea fest, (yep, another one), and picked it
[...]
>Does anyone know anything at all about this creature? Features, drawbacks,
>compatibility, upgradible-ness, where can I get documentation? Actually, I
>hear that Kantronics provides documentation on MS-0DOS floppies for some of 
>their TNC's. If so, how can I get it? Or if anyone has it, can I have it 
>puh-lease??? :-) 

Old box.  The KPC-1 is upgradable to Kantronics's current firmware
level, but it may require a minor modification.  I believe the problem
is in size of Static RAM originally installed.

As Gary said, the KPC-1 does not have a watchdog timer.  However, I
have never had any trouble with my KPC-2 or my KAM keying up and
burning out a radio.  Nor have any of the other 20 Kantronics users
that I know.  (I think we have had this discussion before :-) )

Kantronics does have a BBS, but I don't remember seeing any manuals on-
line or hearing about 'manuals on disk'.  (though it is not a bad idea)


-Steve Schallehn  KB0AGD
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: chiner@nova (Chris Hiner)
Subject: Re: KPC-3 power jack
Reply-To: chiner@nova.gmi.edu
Organization: GMI/EMI CIM Lab
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:34:28 GMT

I had no problems installing the battery in the KPC-3.  Works fine
off the battery, or the jack.  Nice TNC.

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From: roman@tix.timeplex.COM (Daniel Roman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: AmigaNOS v2.9g?
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:56:13 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

It's on ucsd.edu and it does not support POP3.
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From: jhays@boi.hp.com (John_D. Hays)
Subject: Re: PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for Windows
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:48:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division

It's a basic terminal program with seperate input and output windows, cut and paste
and a few "Windows" features.  It's a clean peice of work from what I can see, however
I will not be using it (so no shareware fee) as most of my use for a TNC is in
KISS mode running TCP/IP --- It would be nice if it had a menu system for common commands
a translate table for TNC specific syntax.

If you would like a Windows based terminal, with a few nice features for Amateur
use like "split" xmit and rcv --- get it and send a few $$$ to the author so that
he will be motivated to improve it.

John
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From: ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Paul Marshall Hounslow)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:01:35 GMT
Reply-To: ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Reading




               PktWin Version 1.2 is now ready.  

     I have uploaded PktWin to ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  It is 
currently in /pub/pc/win3/uploads as PKTWIN01.ZIP.

It is an Amateur Radio Packet TNC controller program, and is
shareware (25 pounds registration). 



Paul

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Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ
EMail:  ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: rsavage@nyx.cs.du.edu (Reid Savage)
Subject: 6 meter packet
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 01:37:57 GMT

According to my radio shack technician license book 9600 baud operation
is legal on 6 meters as long as your emission is kept at 20 khz of
bandwidth. This would seem to be the perfect band to build full duplex
packet repeaters!  We could have interactive logins and internet access
from hundreds of miles away!! 
 
 To quote John Lennon. "There is nothing that's been done that can't be
done",  because if you go ahead and do something they can't say you can't
do it because you have already done it! Though at this time I would not
advocate singing in non digital form.
From: rick@lrark.UUCP (Rick Mobley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Is Anyone using MSYS ??
Keywords: MSYS
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:54:09 GMT
Organization: Little Rock Arkansas Tech User Group

In article <1863@sousa.ltn.dec.com> segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com writes:
 >
 >Greetings,
 >
 >Is anyone using MSYS to run a BBS service?  I would very much like to talk to
 >someone with some experience with setting up the mail forwarding capabilities
 >in MSYS.  If you know something about this topic please send me mail so that 
 >we can correspond.  If there is someone that you know of who does not have 
 >access to the Internet, I will be happy to call them.

I use MSYS 1.13 in BBS service with forwarding in several directions. The
doc file explains it fairly good, but I would be happy to get you started.
You can carry this to E-Mail if you like. I travel some so allow time for
the messages to traverse.

73 - Rick.
 
 >--
 >Bob Segrest
 >segrest@bobseg.enet.dec.com


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Kantronics KPC-1?
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:08:26 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <81482@ut-emx.uucp> davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Buddy Brannan) writes:
>Yup, it's me again ... this time, with ... a new old toy!! :-)
>
>Found this guy, the KPC-1, at a flea fest, (yep, another one), and picked it
>up for the proverbial song. (The PKT-1 ain't workin' yet ... What did I have
>to lose?) No manuals, no docs, no power supply, (but that's no biggie), no
>nothing but the TNC box for $20. How could I pass it up???? Anywayhow ... 
>Does anyone know anything at all about this creature? Features, drawbacks,

Two major problem areas. The unit has no hardware time out timer. It
can lock up and melt down your radio. (Sad experience) Don't plan on
using it unattended without an outboard PTT timer. Second, it uses
software DCD. It falses on noise *a lot*, you must run a squelched
radio. Naturally it's not software or hardware compatible with TAPR
TNC2s. That means no nifty ROM upgrades or high speed modems. Other
than that, it's an ok little box.

Gary KE4ZV
From: Iain_Philipps.BRidge_House@rxuk.xerox.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Packet-Radio Digest V92 #276
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:15:27 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

In Packet-Radio Digest V92 #276, mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx!rsavage@uunet.uu.net
said:-

>To quote John Lennon. "There is nothing that's been done that can't be
>done",  because if you go ahead and do something they can't say you can't
>do it because you have already done it! Though at this time I would not
>advocate singing in non digital form.

Hey, feller!

If you're gonna QUOTE John Lennon, at least make sure you know what he said in
the first place!

What he actually wrote was:-
	"There's nothing you can do that can't be done"

Go ahead and read it - makes a real difference:-)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: brit@athena.MIT.EDU (Christopher B Gould)
Subject: TCM3105 modem adjustments
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:21:17 GMT

I have a modem built around a TCM3105 connected to a 386 running Baycom 1.4,
I followed the schematics in tcm3105.ps that I got from an ftp site.
There is one problem:  pin 7 (RXB) on the TCM3105 is connected to the tap
on a 50Kohm pot, the pot is connected between Vcc and ground.  Varying the
pot chages the wave of the data sent to the computer by the TCM3105, (I'm
not sure how to describe the difference technically, but) it goes from
predominantly "high" to predominantly "low" (as if I were changing the
time constant of a capacitor circuit in there somewhere, or something of
the sort).  How can I calibrate the pot to the right position?  I suppose
there is only one point where the data received will make any sense to the
computer.

Thanks for any help,
73  de  Brit

KB4ZBP/KT
brit@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Subject: Re: Kantronics KPC-1?
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:46:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.024626.17587@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
>In article <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
>>I did.  My !@#$%^&! KPC-2 locked up in transmit -- it was over a day 
>>before I noticed.  Fortunately the power supply failed first and acted
>>as an (expensive) fuse for the radio.  
>>
>>I did some experimenting, and found that the KPC-2 occasionally locks 
>>in transmit when power is first turned on.  Evidently there was a 
>>momentary power failure when I was not at home.
>
>My KPC2 _once_ got stuck in transmit mode for a day or so.  In my case, the
>radio took it OK, and so did the power supply.  This probably wiped out
>activity on the freq in my area.  But I only run 8 watts (about half gets
>out of the 50 feet of RG58).  Haven't had it happen again for a couple 
>years.

There is a lot of activity on 145.01 in our area, including a very popular
high level digipeater located near Big Bear Lake (AA6TN-1, BGBEAR).  Well,
a while back BGBEAR stopped working.  Terry Neal, AA6TN, drove from Costa
Mesa to to Big Bear to figure out why his digi was broken.  He discovered
that his digipeater was working fine, but that a station in Big Bear had
wedged in transmit mode and the station operator was out of town. It took
a couple more days to get the wedged station back into legal operation.  This
station was running moderate power in a location sheltered from most other
stations but full quieting into a high level digipeater; the interference
caused was severe.  Of course, it turns out the station was using a KPC-2.

Without personally insulting anyone, I personally feel it is irresponsible
to operate an unattended station without the use of a watchdog timer.  I
would highly suggest that owners of KPC-2s invest the effort to build a
an external watchdog timer, or call up Kantronics and ask for one.

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: willis@cs.tamu.edu (Willis Marti)
Subject: Re: ARRL DIGITAL COMMITTE REVISED REPORT 9/26/92
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:29:32 GMT

I have two problems with the Digital Committee's new report, one minor,
one major.

The minor one is that in their Appendix B they forget that unattended
digital stations exist above 10M. (The intent is clear from other paragraphs,
but it's not stated in this Appendix, which purports to cover "... all stations
under automatic control be restricted to the following Sub-bands...").

The MAJOR complaint is that someone has decided to remove some privileges
from Technician class licenses (I guess one understands packet better if the
code speed is >= 13wpm).

Quoted from the Report:
"97.216 Unattended Digital Station

(a) Any amateur station licensed to a holder of a General, Advanced or
Amateur Extra Class license may be an unattended digital station."

What a load of hooey!  I'd like WA0CQG, Carl Estey, to present any
resaonable rationale for this line.

Willis Marti
N5SZF

{note follow-ups to rec.radio.amateur.policy}
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: jens4813@hgc.edu (Kevin Jensen)
Subject: PK232 programs
Keywords: PK232 Packet Programs
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:43:09 GMT

Does anyone have any suggestions on what is available for programs
that are freeware or shareware to control the PK232? I also need 
the unarchiving utility if you suggest something on a ftp site
on the internet. I used archie and found PK232.ARC and PK232COM.ARC
but I didnt look any farther with archie. Are these programs any good?
What is the unarchiving program I should use to unarc these? Thanks
for any replies.
From: fritz@sni.multinet.DE (Fritz Raab)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Interop
Date: 10 Oct 1992 02:47:45 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Hello Packeteers,
is there a meeting point/time for ham's at the Interop in SF ?
If, at what time and frequency ?
(no packet please, hi !)
Could someone recommend a amateur radio shop in San Francisco down town ?
I would like to have a look....
73s, Fritz DF2RF
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From: doug@ve6bc.uucp (Douglas MacKintosh, VE6BC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: TNC-2 Firmware
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:07:12 GMT
Organization: Amateur Radio Station VE6BC - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Can someone tell me what the latest, greatest version of firmware for the
TNC-2 (ie MFJ-127x) is?

tnx & 73
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: rsavage@nyx.cs.du.edu (Reid Savage)
Subject: Faster Packet
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 01:22:26 GMT


 
 
 
I am seriously considering getting involved in 9600 baud packet radio and I
am seeking the advise and wisdom of other wireless pioneers. (on the
wired internet).  What experience has there been of hooking packet tnc's
directly into multiuser computer systems? Obviously the computer would
have to running in a half duplex mode on the tnc ports. Does this require
special host modes on the tnc?  What has peoples experience been with the
more sophisticated TCP/IP protocols on 1200 baud packet? Ideally I would
like to be able to run a Telnet emulation on a 9600 baud tnc  that could be
set for single user access with only a small amount of network traffic.
From: npalomba@ccsi.COM (Nicholas Palomba, Crystal Computer Systems Inc.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Commercial Ham Software?
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:34:21 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Does anyone have a list of all commercial Ham software?

If you have either one or 20 or all of the people that have software,  
please send me a message with the info!

-Nick KA1NIP

Email Address: nick@ccsi.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: ted@tedb.demon.co.uk (Edward Batts)
From: agodwin@acorn.co.uk (Adrian Godwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: CNC this year ?
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:22:40 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, UK


Can someone tell me when the ARRL Computer Networking Conference is to
be held, this year ? And when the minutes are published ?
I shan't get to the conference, but I'd like to know when I can order a
copy of the minutes.

-adrian


Adrian Godwin : agodwin@acorn.co.uk : adrian@fangorn.demon.co.uk : g7hwn@gb7khw
ObDisclaimer  : I believe this rubbish .. don't imagine that anyone else does.
From: STUMTGRY%EKU.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (if i were a sports star i'd have a girlfriend)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: (none)
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:53:22 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

i got the message
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer)
Subject: TAPR packetRADIO project in 8th CNC
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:43:56 GMT

What ever became of the TAPR packetRADIO project described in the 8th
CNC pg 108-113?

					Rick Spanbauer
					State U of NY/Stony Brook
From: john@goshawk.mcc.ac.uk (John Heaton)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:55:20 GMT
Reply-To: john@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Oct14.160652.3714@eng.umd.edu>, chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
|> In article <Bw446o.Gz0@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk> ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk writes:
|> ...
|> >     I have uploaded PktWin to ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  It is 
|> >currently in /pub/pc/win3/uploads as PKTWIN01.ZIP.
|> >
|> >It is an Amateur Radio Packet TNC controller program, and is
|> >shareware (25 pounds registration). 
|> >
|> Thank you Paul.  Now, what does it do?  What features does it implement?
|> Whose TNC will it work with?  What modes does it support?  What computer
|> does it run on?  Please don't assume that we already know.
|> 
|> Enquiring minds want to know!
|> 
|> 73,
|> 
|> Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
|> chuck@eng.umd.edu

Even I could work out the it must run on an IBM PC of sorts, under
Windows 3.0 (at least) and that it is probably a packet terminal program.
And I haven't even seen it yet.  SOME PEOPLE DO ASK DAFT QUESTIONS.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: rsavage@nyx.cs.du.edu (Reid Savage)
Subject: 10 meter packet
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 01:26:05 GMT

  Have people tried using 1200 baud BPSK modems on 10 meters? (the
modems they use for pacsats) If its legal we better take advantage of the
superior performance that binary phase shift keying offers before they try
and ban packet.
From: RPATTERS@Kentvm.Kent.EDU (Rick Patterson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Unsub
Date: 10 Oct 1992 06:15:01 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Unsubscribe
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From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Subject: Re: PktWin V1.0 TNC controller for Windows released.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:01:24 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <1992Oct15.145520.17903@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> john@nessie.mcc.ac.uk writes:
>
>Even I could work out the it must run on an IBM PC of sorts, under
>Windows 3.0 (at least) and that it is probably a packet terminal program.
>And I haven't even seen it yet.  SOME PEOPLE DO ASK DAFT QUESTIONS.

Really? How did you determine that it was Windows 3.0, and not just a program
that just made a window like interface?  And what made you assume that it
runs under a PC?  I have  ZIP and UNZIP that run under unix.  Just being
"a packet terminal program" is a pretty wide charter to run under.

Paul did a very nice job of describing the program in his response to my query.
It's a shame thknowledge
at yours did nothing to further the knowledge of this program.


73,

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
chuck@eng.umd.edu
From: hugo@vnet.ibm.com (OA4HV)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 14:39:44 EST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Digicom 64 Manuals (HELP)


Digicom 64 is a TNC-2 emulator and terminal program for the Commodore
64.

I got DIGICOM version 3.51 including the mini-editor, with no user
manuals

I will appreciate very much, if somebody can e-mail to me the
appropiated documentation or any hint on how to get it.

73 de Hugo (OA4HV)
hugo@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 13:46:09 TUR
From: <C70861@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: gateway

   I was told that hand filtering is the only possible way used to filter

out an Ethernet logged-on user messages if the LAN is connected to a packet

node.Do you think it true and what is the alternative if not?

                                                              <Abdul-Hamid>
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: Kantronics KPC-1?
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:11:31 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <Bw2MnA.2Hx@zero.com> steve@zero.com (Steve Urich) writes:
>In article <14580038@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
>>I had always assumed that there WAS a timer in the box.  All the other
>>TNC's have them.  Why doesn't Kantronics include a warning in the manual?
>
>	Same here, maybe they don't work as well as they should in strange
>	situations like power glitches...

I've jumped all over Kantronics case about this. While the TNC2 uses a
hardware timeout, a non-retriggerable one shot in series with the PTT line, 
Kantronics does it in software. So when the program goes astray due to a 
glitch, it can lock in transmit forever. Stupid design that saves 10 cents
and costs a $400 radio.

Of course the one shot could fail, but I haven't heard of a case of that
while I have heard of many cases of Kantronics brilliant firmware going
ga-ga. I prefer a TNC2 with K3MC's KISS only firmware. Never had a lock
up or failure to function. Now we could talk about the stupid opamp for
a RS-232 driver, but that's another story.

Gary KE4ZV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Subject: Re: Internet Gateway newsgroup cfd?
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:36:24 GMT

In article <718149312snx@w3vh.UUCP>
    rolfe@w3vh.UUCP (Rolfe Tessem) writes:

>> How do you stop a ham user from accepting an offer on misc.forsale?
>
>You don't, because there is no problem in that instance (i.e. it's
>no different than swap nets, which according to an FCC advisory, are
>explicitly legal.)

Last I looked, the world consists of considerably more than that land
covered by the laws of the FCC...  For example, anything relating to
"sale" items is expressly forbidden on packet radio in Australia.

Please, don't make the assumption that USA == world...

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
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