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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Hawkeye class ??
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:55:48 GMT

Iowa played a good, solid game and beat Iowa State 21-7 in front of the home
folks in Iowa City. This was Iowa's 10th straight victory over the Cyclones.

During the post-game congratulations at mid-field, Hawkeye co-captain Bret
Bielma, amid a throng of reporters, grabbed Iowa State head coach Jim Walden's
hand and said, "You've been a big prick. I've enjoyed kicking your ass for the
past five years." A shocked Jim Walden responed: "I'm glad you enjoyed it."
(quotes taken from _The Des Moines Register_ without permission)

Several other Hawkeyes were also extremely upset with Walden and some Iowa
State players, apparently for comments made in the press. Since the reporters
at the game did not recall any previous comments that would lead to this kind
of hostility, the reporters pressed the Hawkeye players for the source of
these comments.  The comments came from: 1) an unidentified Ames newspaper
article and 2) a paper called "Voice of the 'Clones", a publication which
nobody here has ever heard of.

Hayden's method of motivation is well known: he (or his staff) takes snippits
from interviews of the opposition, in context or not, and pastes the "quotes"
on the players' lockers and desks. 

Where are these "quotes" actually coming from? It's one thing to post a quote;
it is simply cheap and dirty to take a quote out of context and embellish it in
such a way to cause a sense of hate toward another individual or group
(although this is the norm for politics and such). And of course, making up
quotes is pure libel.

Walden is no angel, and he often speaks untactfully, but there is simply no
public record of his supposed "comments" that led to these incidents. IMO, he
has been very generous in his comments toward the Hawkeyes since he came here.

I was quite amazed by reading and listening to the interviews of several
Hawkeye players.  These guys have been brain washed into hating Walden;  when
pressed, they can't give specific things they dislike about him, its just
general hate.  The sad thing is that many folks in this state believe the same
crap. The _DM Register_ sports editorial page always contains letters from
readers that contain the same sentiments toward Walden.

As for the game, Iowa's defense held when it had to. ISU played decent
defense and had some big plays, but Danan Hughes coupled with Iowa's running
attack was just too much for ISU to stop. ISU's running attack was able to
gain 173 yards against the Hawks (no big-gain plays).  Either the Hawks are
lousy against the run, or ISU has finally developed a decent running game.

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: This Week in the SEC (Sept. 5)
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:33:01 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

Scores this weekend:

#9 ALABAMA (1-0) beat VANDERBILT (0-1), 25-8

The Commodores could have made this one interesting, but turned
the ball over on their first 5 possessions.

#14 GEORGIA (1-0) thumped SOUTH CAROLINA (0-1), 28-6

"Air Georgia" never materialized in this one as the Dawgs
returned to their grind-it-out roots after struggling early.

#21 MISSISSIPPI STATE (1-0) creamed Texas (0-1), 28-10

Jackie Sherrill continued his mastery of the Longhorns and
spoiled Mackovic's debut as coach.

#22 TENNESSEE (1-0) whomped SW Louisiana (0-1), 38-3

The Vols had an easy time without Coach Majors.  No clear starter has 
emerged yet at quarterback.

#7 Texas A&M (1-0) beat LSU (0-1), 31-22

The Tigers showed vast improvement over last season and moved the
ball well on the stingy Aggie defense.  aTm QB Granger threw the 
ball better than in his debut against Stanford.

KENTUCKY (1-0) edged Central Michigan (0-1), 21-14

The Wildcats are off to a winning start once again at the expense of
a MAC foe.

OLE MISS (1-0) kicked AUBURN (0-1), 45-21

The Rebels ran back 3 Stan White passes for TD's to turn this one
into a rout in the 2nd half.

The Citadel (1-0) stunned ARKANSAS (0-1), 10-3

Arkansas coach Jack Crowe resigned after this one and was replaced
by defensive coordinator Ray Kines.  The Citadel scored its 5th
win in the last 6 tries against I-A teams.

#6 FLORIDA (0-0) was idle.

S E C   S t a n d i n g s
=================================================================
E a s t          Conf   Overall  | W e s t         Conf   Overall
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Georgia          1-0    1-0      | Alabama         1-0    1-0
Tennessee        0-0    1-0      | Ole Miss        1-0    1-0
Kentucky         0-0    1-0      | Mississippi St. 0-0    1-0
Florida          0-0    0-0      | LSU             0-0    0-1
South Carolina   0-1    0-1      | Arkansas        0-0    0-1
Vanderbilt       0-1    0-1      | Auburn          0-1    0-1

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
 "There was such speed in her little body, and such lightness in her
    footfall, it is no wonder her brown study astonishes us all."
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From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Keywords: n
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:31:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.182235.20518@news.eng.convex.com> dwray@convex.com (Daryl Wray) writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.172644.5885@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>>
>>I don't think an "alliance" (as officials have been calling it)
>>is the answer, though. An alliance leaves ALL of the schools 
>>in it. I think that one of the problems with the SWC is that
>>sveral of the schools will _never_ be very good at football,
>>and have almmost always sucked at everything else (women's
>>sports at several are the worst, non-revenue men's sports
>>are usualluy poor, etc.). There are exceptions to be sure, but
>>not many. UT and A&M complained about this when they threatened
>>to leave the conference last year.
>>
>...
>>
>>Thus, and "alliance" probably wouldn't do the trick. I see a
>>merger of the "big" four SWC schools with the Big 8 as offering the
>>best hope... 
>>
>>Jay Boisseau
>>
>>P.S. I'm glad ther aren't too many Baylor, SMU, and TCU fans on the
>>net... I suspect the flames will largely come from the Rice fans.
>>hey, guys, I like your school, I' just looking out for the Texas
>>schools that have a chance to get better, OK?
>>
>
>Let's swap Tulsa for Missouri while we're at it.
No, we need Mizzou for the roundball!  Don't forget the
Big8 is just fine for hoops.

>
>daryl

Bill 

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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Heisman (Was Re: Faulk, 299 yds rushing vs. BYU)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:52:47 GMT

tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>I think I already know the answer to this, but a few years ago, Tony Rice
>was a front-runner in the Heisman race (despite unspectacular stats) because
>he was the leader of an undefeated team.
>
>Why are Billy Joe Hobert and Gino Torretta (especially) not Heisman favorites?
>

For BJ Hobert, the answer is easy.  He hasn't got a 300 yd passing game to
his name yet.  It is also unlikely that he ever shall, seeing as how Don
James sends in Brunell for a quarter or so every game, and also likes to run
the ball a lot.  Hobert is a good QB, but won't post Heisman like numbers
as long as Brunell and Napolean Kaufmann are in town.

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From: jrnf@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey R.N. Forbes)
Subject: Re: Cal 14 v. Purdue 41
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:00:00 GMT

Let's see what foresight is exibited by our net
prognosticators:

sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) mistakenly writes:

>I can't see Cal winning by less than 20 at Purdue...
                 ^^^^^^^
Did he possibly mean losing by less than 20?
Then Scott Davis has the nerve to write:

>...the only Cal question is the pass defense...

Let's see... The run defense looked mighty porous, special teams
was pretty sorry, and the offense was effective in garbage time.
The only question is whether Cal can come back from this and have
a season worthy of continued membership in the PAC-10?

Finally, bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble) insightfully writes:
>We got our butts kicked.  We Got Our Butts Kicked.
>   ****** WE GOT OUR BUTTS KICKED! ******

Basically, the conclusion which can drawn from this game is:
  CAL SUCKS!!!! (always has and always will)

The question that remains is:
  Should Stanford bothering traveling to the dark side
  of the bay to play the BIG MISMATCH or should we
  just rest up for the Rose Bowl???? :-)

OK maybe that's a little early after a not too impressive
21-7 win over a pretty mediocre Oregon team.
But Stanford will crush Northwestern by the ridiculous spread
of 31 and more!  They may let the fans play in this one.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:33:12 EDT
From: <LNF@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: QB situation at PSU?
 <1992Sep9.134829.24100@athena.mit.edu> <92253.141539CXC19$@psuvm.psu.edu>

Joepa was quoted in one of the local rags as waffling between the Senior
and Freshman.  No decision made yet.  Does Penn State style football
really need a quarterback?

Larry
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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Auburn/Ole Miss - Prelude
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:18:33 GMT

In article <bjm1.715500666@Ra.MsState.Edu> bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann) writes:
>Billy might surprise you, so look out...but I still think Auburn
>will come out on top!
>
>Pig Soooiieeee!
>
>(That's an Arkansas call, you'll hear it soon enough :)

    Oh yes, we in the SEC are looking forward to a little roast pig
on the menu this year to go along with the new southern fried chicken. 
If you've ever been to a game in Tuscaloosa and eaten at Dreamland,
you'll know the value we place on good, slow-cooked, barbecued pork!
Soooiieeee pig pig pig!  Welcome.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
From: pokey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vince Rhee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: LSU/A&M Spread?
Keywords: n
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:29:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: 1992-Beat-The-Hell-Outta-Everyone Aggies of Texas A&M

Our own zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) states :
>
>The spread is 9 points, A&M is favored.  I don't like it being that high...
>Whenever we go to Baton Rouge favored by a bunch, it always seems like we
>get beaten by a bunch of freshmen...  Also, the game is on ABC, and I 
>cannot remember the last time we won a game being carried by ABC..  :-(
>
>cmuck


	Yo! Howzabout last season? A&M 34, Baylor 12? Regional
	coverage on ABC, if I remember correctly...

- Vince

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From: glane@athena.qualcomm.com (George Lane)
Subject: Marshall Faulk next Heisman winner?
Originator: glane@athena.qualcomm.com
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:54:13 GMT


	Last year, my father-in-law asked me if San Diego State would beat 
my alma mater, Colorado State. Naw, I said. CSU has a good coach, two good
quaterbacks, they looked good in the freedom bowl, and freshman Marshall 
Faulk was recovering from having his ribs broken. It was questionable if 
he would play, and if he did, he wouldn't be 100 percent. It was a reasonable
bet. Well, I was wrong. Marshall played, and he didn't play like his ribs hurt. 
	He then ran all over everyone the Aztecs faced, including over 150 
yards against #1 Miami, and won the rushing title. He is very exciting to 
watch. This all happened at San Diego State, a passing team. Yesterday, 
I watched as he ran for over 200 yards and three touchdowns against USC. 
Many times, he would slip through when no hole was available. At one point
in the game, he averaged over 9 yards per carry. If he keeps this up, 
Marshall Faulk may be the first sophmore to win the Heisman. He placed 
about tenth in the balloting last year. Too low, but then again, he was 
only a freshman.
	I'll root for him, until he plays CSU. We don't get many Rams 
games here in S.D. I wish the former Aggies from Fort Collins well.
It used to be that I had two Colorado schools to root for, but now
they are playing each other. Is there some special name for this game
like the Colorado Classic, or the governor's cup?
Too bad about the game against the buffs. But, hey, they were national 
co-champs a couple years back. I think ya done good.
	Just think though, other schools recruited Faulk to convert 
to defensive back, but he chose San Diego State because they let him 
play running back. Was one of the other schools Colorado State Univ?

George Lane
glane@qualcomm.com

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From: henders@infonode.ingr.com (Greg Henderson)
Subject: Re: Auburn over Samford
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:52:22 GMT

swanger@news.duc.auburn.edu writes:

>Auburn vs. Samford.
>Comment:  Pat Dye left Stan White in the game until partway through the 3rd
>quarter, until the score was 41-0.  I felt he should have removed him
>earlier and let the subs in early.  There was no need to rub their noses in
>it.  I felt White should have been pulled at halftime (or earlier - it was
>31-0 with time on the clock in the 2nd quarter).  He was still throwing long
>passes in the 2nd and 3rd quarter, after the game was somewhat out of reach.

Think maybe he was trying to massage Stan's ego, and help him to forget
the debacle of the previous week...  :)
-- 

Greg Henderson   henders@infonode.ingr.com   ...uunet!ingr!infonode!henders


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From: jerdman@evans.den.mmc.com (ERDMAN)
Subject: Re: Miami vs. Colorado in '93 & '96
Organization: MMAG
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:13:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.180050.26266@den.mmc.com>, kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
> 
> 
> Colorado's proposal to play Miami at the Orange Bowl next season instead
> of Folsom Field has fallen through (!).  It hinged on Kansas State's
> willingness to play back-to-back future games in Boulder, but KSU
> refused, so CU will play the two-game series as originally scheduled:
> 
> Sept. 25, 1993	Miami @ Colorado
> Sept. 28, 1996	Colorado @ Miami
> -- 

Why would CU want to play at Miami when they have them here at home first.  The
obvious reason in MONEY. Imagine that.

ERDY
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: CFPOOL: Week #1 results
Keywords: n
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:40:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.141957.21854@hou.amoco.com>, zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:
|> >|  521.65 | 08/18  44% | 03-03-02 |   521.65 | 008/018  44% | Gary "Goober" S |
|> >|  519.50 | 08/18  44% | 03-03-02 |   519.50 | 008/018  44% | John Seitters   |
|> >|  455.52 | 08/18  44% | 03-01-04 |   455.52 | 008/018  44% | C. John Mace    |
|> >+---------+------------+----------+----------+--------------+-----------------+
|> 
|> goob and I decided to give everyone a head start...  :-)
|> 
|> Watch out next week, I might move up 10 positions!!!
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So, you've decided to give up picking those SWC teams too! :-)

(aTm not included - gotta have one "bread and butter" team).

|> cmuck

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: ND vs FSU
Organization: University of Michigan
	<BuDBu9.Fu0@news.larc.nasa.gov> <10683@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:32:17 GMT

In article <10683@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> marsden@ioctl.cs.fsu.edu (Jonathan Marsden) writes:

   I often wonder why ND is afraid to play FSU on the road...  The same goes for
   previous powerhouses like Michigan and Nebraska.  Tallahassee isn't
   that bad of a place.  In any case, ND didn't agree to play the 'Noles in
   Doak-Campbell Stadium.  Instead, they will be playing in Orlando.

I'll ignore the Michigan slam, since its so stupid.  Look at the success rate
in recent times.  Gotta try harder than that.

The reason FSU came to Michigan in recent times is that the games were
scheduled 10-15 years back when FSU sucked and needed 
	A) the cash
	B) the exposure of playing a top school

Take a look at recent (i.e. last 10 years) Miami games.  Neither of these two
schools had any leverage 15 years ago.  Now, if the games were scheduled,
things would be different. 

Bill
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Big Upset Early, Lousy Season
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:39:08 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


>Brian E. Saunders writes:
>
>  >But remember 1988 - Purdue upset a TOSU team in Columbus, and then managed
>  >to lose to Northwestern.<
>

I can remember in the early 80s, when Georgia Tech beat a Bear Bryant-coached
Bama IN BIRMINGHAM. Then the wreck preceeded to lose the remaining 10 games
of the season.....

-rob
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:26:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com

In article <1992Sep10.215758.26591@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>
>By the way, I've never heard any Notre Dame fan seriously claim that
>God cares especially whether the Irish win or not.  I think the "God's
>team" label comes mostly from outside the university, not from inside it.
>Of course, some of you may be consorting with a lower caliber of Notre
>Dame fan than I do . . .

When Lou Holtz implies devine intervention for wins........






--
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:17:42 CDT

In article <9209092233.AA25953@dseg.ti.com> noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.160643.20935@doug.cae.wisc.edu>,
>saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Sep9.184554.11537@chpc.utexas.edu>
>> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>> >
>> >Besides, it would be nice to have a conference foe
>> >within driving distance... what's the closest Big 10 school to
>> >Texas, anyway? This move seems a little crazy--I also thought
>> >the SEC was more likely.
>> 
>> Iowa (Iowa City) and Illinois (Champaign-Urbana) are practically equidistant
>> from Texas-Austin, and Bloomington is a shade further.  This addition would
>> hardly be less logical than that of Penn State, travelwise.
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I beg to differ.
>
>Driving time from Austin to Champaign-Urbana is approximately 17 hours
>passing through Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Illinois on your shortest
>route.  What's the driving time from Penn State to Ohio State? 6-7 hours?
>At least Pennsylvania and Ohio border each other.  As far as general
>accessibility, however, Texas is in Austin and Penn State is in the
>absolute middle of nowhere.
>
>The Big-8 or the SEC are much more logical for Texas geographically, and
>only the Big-8 is logical in terms of conference size.

How can you differ?  I said it was not logical "travelwise".  Maybe I
should have said "with respect to travel".  Since almost all Big Ten
traveling is done by plane, the logic would be for less travel time.  Since
many school's planes currently can't land at Penn State's airport (from
what I've heard, I could be wrong), it also involves a lengthy bus ride.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Re: Score Trivia...
Organization: The Ohio State University
 writes:
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:17:03 GMT

>In article <1992Sep15.164634.27633@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pdunn@magnus.ac
s.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep15.144906.13494@cs.brown.edu> cs169061@cs.brown.edu (Mich
ael
>>  Kalman) writes:
>>>|> I remember someone telling me once that the most
>>>|> lopsided score of all times was back around 1910
>>>|> or so, when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0, and
>>
>> I also heard that there were no first downs for either team in that game,
>> which
>> must mean that Georgia Tech scored every time they touched the ball.
>
>Maybe not.  They could have scored on 2nd, 3rd or 4th down.  It could have
>taken them as many as 4 plays to score each td.

Duhhh---Okay.  That makes sense:-)

PDunn
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