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From: ghazi@wizofhoz.uucp (Ozzie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Supra sucks: Modem problems
Date: 23 Nov 1992 00:25:51 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <By0tEv.4IF@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>
>Ok, so my modem stopped working after a lightning storm.  (It's a
>V.32FAX).  There's no more dialtone, and I hear static noise, too.. so I

>tried it out.  NOW there is a dialtone, and it dials, but there's still
>this stupid static in the background!!!  And because of this static
>noise, it won't connect at all.  Now is this my machine or my setup?  I
>swear this modem worked fine before.  Have any of you experienced this?

>intense static as this.  Well, apparently Supra is braindead.. please
>reply if you have any idea what's going on.  Thanks.
>Sam Hulick 

	Come on Sam, think about it for a bit, you said things started to
go sour after a lighting storm. You've sent back the modem twice and you
still get static, did it ever occur that the modem may not be the problem.
It may not even be your system at fault, but if I were you I would start
looking at other parts of my system, it may simply be a CIA that went, in
which case your system my still appear to work fully but may in fact have
faulty chips which can cause more serious damage if not investigated soon.
	Of course you seem to be hung up on blaming the supplier of one
component in a system that has dozens. You can do one of two things here,
look into other parts of you system including the lines(telephone) to make
sure you haven't got any other fried parts or send back the modem for a
third time only to find you still have the static problem and maybe a few
other problems caused by not finding the real problem soon enough.
	Two other thing you can do also is, 1- to buy a surge protector to
prevent something like this from happening again, and don't be cheap here,
a few extra dollars now can save you a lot later.
	The second thing is, I wouldn't be posting things like this if I
were you. You just said the modem the got fried in an electrical storm and
you sent it back for a replacement. When was the last time you heard that a
warranty covers damage caused by neglect on the part of the purchaser, the
neglect of not properly protecting electrical equipment. I don't think
Supra is half as braindead as you are, for admitting that the modem didn't
go bad due to bad workmenship but to something that they no control over.
	Did it occur to you that this is a public forum to which Supra is
privy to also and they may not take kindly to being blamed for something
they have no control over, such as a lighting storm.

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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Two monitors at once??
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:17:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.721844257
Organization: University of Washington



I just picked up an rf modulator so that I can have *color* with my color
composite monitor through the RGB port.  

But the TEXT on that thing is just atrocious!

My question:  May I have two monitors running at the same time?  My monochrome
one through the monochrome port for when I am trying to read the screen AND
my composite on the RGB port for the times I need color with my Digiview?
(nad games and demos and... :>  but really, the only time I will need both
on is for Digiview color rendering and seeing if the image is clear to 
begin with, since one monitor cannot do both jobs, I see.)

Will I fry something if I try to split the signal?  *IS* the signal split?
Will having both on affect the colors that I see?  Will I need to flip 
monitors on and off during this project? (hard on the monitors!)

Please advise.         

Oh, and both monitors are Amdek, on an A2000 with a rev 4.2 m/b, and 2.04
if that makes any difference.


Thank you!
 
 Crystal
   ;>
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:09:32 EST
From: Blaise Tarr <BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Amiga core-dump? *sigh*
 <1992Nov18.133139.21744@ifi.unizh.ch> <92323.182614BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Nov19.142226.27864@sophia.smith.edu>

In article <1992Nov19.142226.27864@sophia.smith.edu>, (John Fieber) says:
>
>Sure, I can now use MEMF_PUBLIC when I allocate that memory but
>that still leaves about 99% of current programs that would fall
>flat on their face.

Why?  Is the MEMF_PUBLIC flag new to 2.0?  (I don't have the 1.3 RKRMs with me)

       ///  Blaise Tarr
      ///
  \\\///    BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu     "Typically, the subject being copied
   \XX/     tarr@cs.psu.edu           is terminated."   -CSM 101
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik)
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Amiga core-dump? *sigh*
Summary: Message passing and MP
Keywords: MP, exec messages
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:40:52 GMT

>In article <92323.182614BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu> Blaise Tarr <BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
[..]

>Never say never :-).  On page 456 of the 2.0 RKRM under a description of
>[..]
>Anyways, message passing isn't necessarily an impossible obstacle to overcome
>on the road to memory protection.  When a message is passed (or rather a
>pointer to the message), the area with the message essentially belongs to
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                              which area?
>the process receiving the message.  The MMU tables can be modified so the
>receiving process has access to the message until it has sent a ReplyMsg().

This is only _half_ of the problem.

The message is only a grant to use some memory. The owner of the
memory tells you with the message "Hi, I have some memory at this location,
go ahead, you can use it. I will not do anything on this memory as long
as you dont send me a reply'. Usually this area is bounded with the message
BUT IT MUST NOT. In the message you could have a pointer to any memory 
location you own. This situation CANT be protected, cause the system doesnt 
know about it.
Replying to a message is telling the programm 'Hi, I ve looked at your memory
and found what I was looking for. Now I dont need it anymore. You are now
back the only owner of your memory and do whatever you want'

>       ///  Blaise Tarr


-- 
Best regards from Matija Milostinik           : matija@avalon.ifi.unizh.ch  
                                              : matija@amiga.physik.unizh.ch
Therefore, use local labels in the procedures as often as possible. 
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From: starman@crash.amigans.gen.nz (Robin Halligan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: PIRACY
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:07:46 PST
Organization: No organisation at all
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Thomas Clancy (thom@cs.mun.ca) wrote:

  [lots of bits now pirated to dev/null]
: 
: Another silly bit of "logic"... When a disc is copied you are using your
: own physical "MATERIAL". Trying to drag in car re-designing and rewriting
: books is just plain silly. Besides, you would still be given "material"   
: goods... [paper, car parts etc;]. Perhaps you should "get a clue"

Just a point here When someone pays for a software pack in most instances
thay pay for the disk/ the manual/ the packageing/ AND THE RIGHT TO USE THE
SOFTWARE not the software itself.
Thus using the software without paying is a crime and theft is a good term for
it.

--
Starman@crash.amigans.gen.nz  (Robin Halligan)
Amigans Public Access UUCP Node Wanganui New Zealand

I'm a K 1 W 1 from the land of the long white cloud
    from the day i begun till the day i'm done
                     I'm a K1W1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: whiplash@cs.montana.edu (Mike Wagner)
Subject: Re: CDTV V2.00
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:50:39 GMT

I was watching MoneyLine and they had a segment on the future of CDTV, 
CD-I, etc.  They predicted that next year there will be ONE standard 
CD based technology.  I agree since this was the case on the VCR scene
between VHS and Beta.  I highly doubt Commydore's CDTV will be that 
standard, so for C= to make a CDTV 2.0 would be mistake #8900033930 for
C=.  Please somebody, buy Commodore! 

Mike

whiplash@fubar.cs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Why doesn't Amiga core-dump? *sigh*
From: Blaise Tarr <BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:26:14 EST
 <92323.003545BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu><1992Nov18.133139.21744@ifi.unizh.ch>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov18.133139.21744@ifi.unizh.ch>,
cschneid@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Schneider Christian) says:

>If it doesn't _seem_ to be difficult to you, the only reason is you didn't
>understand the problems involved in Memory Protection.
>AmigaOS was not, is not and never will be designed for MP. Take message
>passing as an example...

Never say never :-).  On page 456 of the 2.0 RKRM under a description of
the MEMF_PUBLIC flag it says: "... Although this flag doesn't do anything
right now, using this flag will help ensure compatibility with possible
future features of the OS (like virtual memory and memory protection)."
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Anyways, message passing isn't necessarily an impossible obstacle to overcome
on the road to memory protection.  When a message is passed (or rather a
pointer to the message), the area with the message essentially belongs to
the process receiving the message.  The MMU tables can be modified so the
receiving process has access to the message until it has sent a ReplyMsg().

       ///  Blaise Tarr
      ///
  \\\///    BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu     "Typically, the subject being copied
   \XX/     tarr@cs.psu.edu           is terminated."   -CSM 101
From: mjsagar@sandia.gov (Mathias J Sagartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: HD for A1200
Keywords: A1200 HD
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:10:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov17.211047.3277
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories

O.K. so now that the A1200 is announced, where are the best
deals on 2.5 in IDE drives?
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From: mtpins@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael T Pins)
Subject: Re: LHA for UNIX
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:49:34 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:


>	I cannot extract my lha files from my UNIX account. Does anyone
>know where I can get lha for the unix systems?

grind.isca.uiowa.edu
Look in the unix/arc-progs area.

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From: frostbit@src4src.linet.org (Rajesh Goel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga 1200 Released at Comdex
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:43:38 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

In article <1992Nov19.142318.5819@sctc.com> beede@sctc.com (Mike Beede) writes:
>sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS) writes:
>
>>The high speed, 32-bit Amiga 1200 comes standard with one 3.5 inch
>>floppy drive, 2MB of chip RAM and an internal IDE interface.
>
>I take it that ``high speed, 32-bit'' without mention of a specific
>processor is market-speak for ``68000''?
>
>    Mike
>
>--
>Mike Beede         Secure Computing
>beede@sctc.com     1210 W. County Rd E, Suite 100
>------------------ Arden Hills, MN  55112
>                    (612) 482-7420


    No.  A 14-Mhz '020.ich is

    Please refra
------------------------------------------------------
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     A4000 -- Workstation performance that's AFFORDABLE
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From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: Looking for a good text formatter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:35:55 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <1992Nov19.152506.20418@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Todd_Lewis@unc.edu (Todd M. Lewis) wrote:
> In article <mwm.2pcb@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us> mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us  
> (Mike Meyer) writes:
> >Yes, you've got it exactly right. QuickWrite [...]
> >printers fonts, and won't print anything that isn't in them (unless
> >the printer driver can build them via overstrikes).
> 
> Will it do 10- 12- and 15-chars per inch correctly?  At 6 and 8 lines per
> inch? 

I haven't tried it, but it sure looks like it. Page setup includes 6/8
lines per inch, and pica/elite/condensed pitches, and the page you
work on changes sizes to match as you toggle them. Obviously, if the
printer won't do that, you're going to lose. And if the printer
requires you to set that up, and you do it wrong, ditto.

> >I paid $38 for QuickWrite at my local Amiga dealer.
> 
> Oh, for a local Amiga dealer.  I've heard of them.  They ride Unicorns
> to work and dye eggs in the back of a big red sleigh....

Well, I was going to suggest you try that. If you want to send me a a
small sample and requested format, I'd be willing to give it a try.
Throw in an SASE, and I'll mail the results to you. [NOTE: This offer
is really only good for Todd Lewis]. However, you need to do things
quickly - I'm going to be out of the country from the 27th of November
to the 23rd of December.

	<mike

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Subject: Re: FEDERATION AGAINST STEFAN BOBERG (& other pirate stuff)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:17:05 GMT

In article <johnv.03kx@acix.DIALix.oz.au> johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven) writes:
>Reminds me of Discovery Software (remember Marauder, one of the first
>disk copiers) after they starting putting out games (Arkanoid etc) they
>stopped doing anything to Marauder...
>
>John Verhoeven                        johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au      _--_|\

My brother worked for Discovery for a while.  They were not a cracking group
gone good.  Discovery was actually a very respectable programming house.  It is
a tribute to them that Sword of Sodan will run on a 4000.  My brother has told
me that the owner of Discovery was a very adamant about having his programmers
follow C='s programming guidelines.  

Unfortunately Discovery wasn't able to handle the rapid expansion that occured
after Sword of Sodan started raking in big bucks for them.  Things started      
sour, and eventually they folded.
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Want info on PCMCIA
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:32:33 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany
Keywords: PCMCIA A600 A1200 IBM Ethernet

In article <1796@dsinet> jonn@chusuk (Jon Noble) writes:
>
>I'm looking for more info on PCMCIA as it relates to the A600, A1200, et.al.
>Is this slot PCMCIA 2.0 compatible?  

Yes.

>I see IBM advertising three new PCMCIA 2.0 cards for PC laptops that provide
>connections to:
>	1. Token ring
>	2. Ethernet
>	3. 3270 
>
>Do these cards rely on the laptop Intel processor and MS-DOS? 

I don't believe that. They are peripherals. Period. We have already PCMCIA
memory cards that work on these Amigas.

>Are they plug-
>and-play in the A600/1200? (I doubt it.) Can a driver for AmigaDOS be created
>that would otherwise make these cards plug-and-play?

I strongly believe that a driver software can be created. But I'm also
sure that this has not yet been done. But who knows who surprises us
with such a nice thing in near time?

>In general, is any PCMCIA card (memory, modem, disk drive) directly "compatible"
>on any hardware platform, or are software drivers required to provide the glue
>between the card and the computer?

You nearly always need a software driver.

>One last one: if, as I suspect, the answer is that drivers are required, is
>C= or any third parties working on such drivers for specific cards?

Don't know. But now with A1200 and A600 really taking off and selling in
numbers it would pretty dumb for some PCMCIA designer to not take the 
chance and also cover this big market!

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
Wer's nicht kann, soll's bleiben klopfen oder Steine lassen!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: WordWorth 2 / Final Copy II
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:25:16 GMT

[ stuff deleted for bandwidth ]

cbenson@cs.strath.ac.uk (Calum F Benson CS90) writes:
>>> FCII is available in the UK too, with a real British English 
>>> spell-checker and thesaurus.

    I'm glad a very good word processor is now available in lots of
  places.

>Then Alan said ..
>>reformat, or is it just a template that the documents initial properties
>>are taken from?
>>(I saw it was at the FES, but it didn't have the same publicity as
>>WordWorth 2 (specs on flyers and demo on this months Amiga Format),
>>and the only ad I've seen didn't have much detail.)
>
>And the consequence was ...
>I don't know yet - I'm still waiting on my copy to drop through the letter
>box. They _assured_ me it would be here last week, too ... :>

  My sister also ordered and got a postcard about a week ago saying that
 they were back ordered and would send it as soon as they could...

   I have my copy, but I haven't had time to look at the manual yet. Since
 my A500 with more than 1/2 meg of ram is down, I can't load it and check
 on Alan's question. Someone else will have to check. 
    JimP.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                     "Kill the Wabbit ! " Elmer Fudd.
From: ee52fcu@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Alex Burmester)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: SEND ME YOUR OPINIONS/FLAMES ETC...
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:36:42 GMT
Followup-To: alexb@sybase.com
Organization: University of California, San Diego


	Like many people I have owned an A500 for years, (about7-8)
and lately I really don't use it much more than once every two weeks
for a little word proccessing.  I really can't get excited like I
used to when it comes to animation etc.. since the A500 is just sooo
slow.  I also had basically given up on AMIGA in general because
they seemed to be dead in the water and third parties were only
covering with expensive add-on's.
	So anyways when I saw the adds for the A4000 I actually got
a little excited.  I have always wanted to work with a video toaster
but I have never had the money for either a toaster or a fast
machine.  Well I have a decent job at the moment but It'll be a
while before I can make an investment of $4000 or so for a new
machine.  The thing that got me excited about the A4000 was that I
think that I could have a lot of fun without a video toaster and
after I had it for a while I could possibly invest in a toaster. 
	My concern is how much potetial does this new chip set
really have. (The A500 used to run some lousy software but over the
years, the full potetial was finally realized) And also,  how do you
think the company will do finacially, is this a comeback in the
market or a last ditch effort?   So send me your oppinions and
anything about the A4000 because I'd like to start enjoying Amiga's
again!   
		email  alexb@sybase.com   
						Thanx in adv.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dean@ns.network.com (Dean C. Gahlon)
Subject: Amigados 2.1 Enhancer
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 22:08:01 GMT

I acquired the Amigados 2.1 upgrade kit this weekend, and I've got a
couple of questions about it. 

1) Is there a list available somewhere of what changes were made in
this version (relative to 2.04)? From my initial overview, I see that
SetPatch is larger (no surprise there) and that the asl.library has
grown by quite a bit. (Yes, I have noticed the locale.library and
crossdos stuff.)

2) I also notice that the translator.library and narrator.device are
not present. What is the reason for this? I (and I'm sure most of the
net also) would appreciate hearing something at least slightly more
authoritative than vague rumors on this topic.

3) Will some sort of programmers' documentation for the locale.library
be made available? Now that I've got it, I'd kind of like to be able
to use it (I can imagine having the only Amiga in the world producing
messages in Volapu:k...).

Dean Gahlon
dean@ns.network.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jawil@hpx12.aid.no (Jan Roger Wilkens)
Subject: Re: Large File FTPing
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:16:58 GMT

In article <9752@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, xero@cislabs.pitt.edu (George J Karabin) writes:
|> Could some kind soul out there tell me how to go about FTPing large files?
|> I'm doing the standard file to 720k disk to messydos conversion to amiga
|> format business. Until now, I haven't needed to get any largish files, but
|> now I have to get some files in the megabyte range. Are there any compression
|> utilities that I could use on both ends of the process that let you cut a
|> file into pieces, and then reassemble it after the 720k extraction?
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> Josh

You download the file PCRes223.lha in dir /pub/OS/amiga/misc/emu from
ftp.luth.se. (OR from some place close to you.)
With this command you can use the pc 'backup' command and use pcrestore to
restore the files once you are at home again.
-- 
                               Jan Roger Wilkens
                     Student at Agder Engeeniering School
                               Computer Technics

                           EMail: jawil@hpx11.aid.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: WAS Lemmings II - Now "Who left the door open"
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:38:14 GMT

In <4TBouB2w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us> disk@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Diskraker) writes:

>Besides, if the demo is any hint, it WILL be installable.  Some people 
>just HAVE to jump feet first off a fence before they look to see if 
>they're landing in snow or shit...


The word "Exit" on the opening screen *does* lead one to believe that,
doesn't it?  ;>

Crystal
  ;>
(not as dumb as I look most of the time... :>)
From: johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au (John Verhoeven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: FEDERATION AGAINST STEFAN BOBERG (& other pirate stuff)
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:22:27 GMT
Organization: ACix - Private UUCP Node, Cloverdale, Western Australia.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

matthew aardvarkious (thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU) wrote:
> Nope, try again. It's because a lot of the games appearing now are being written
> by crews, or people that were once in a crew. It's a different thing when your
> friend (ie people you know) are gettign hurt, etc..)

Reminds me of Discovery Software (remember Marauder, one of the first
disk copiers) after they starting putting out games (Arkanoid etc) they
stopped doing anything to Marauder...

--

John Verhoeven                        johnv@acix.DIALix.oz.au      _--_|\
Treasurer, Amiga Developers           (ALT: johnv@DIALix.oz.au)   /      \
Association of Western Australia      Phone: (+619) 478 1406      *_.--._/
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