HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: root@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Operator)
Subject: UofNB NNTP summary
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: can
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:04:10 GMT

NNTP stats for csd.unb.ca  from Oct  1 02:05:54 to Oct  2 02:03:12.

                              +--------- stats ---------+ +-- ihave_stats ---+
Host                           offer accept reject   fail accept reject   fail
============================= ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ======
access.usask.ca                  680    583     97      0    674      0      0
eclipse.sheridanc.on.ca            -      -      -      -   1074      0      0
morgan.ucs.mun.ca               5211   1853   3358      0  18361      0      0
news.sheridanc.on.ca             575    245    330      0      -      -      -
owl.nstn.ns.ca                     -      -      -      -    282      0      0
torn.onet.on.ca                16122    991  15131      0  37833      0      0
                              ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
TOTALS                         22588   3672  18916      0  58224      0      0

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats,tor.news.stats
From: <root@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: Manitoba NNTP Server Report
Originator: root@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:00:33 GMT


NNTP peer article transfers

Article Reception (they contact us)
System                  Offered  Took  Toss  Fail Toss   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
newsflash.concordia.ca     1660   116  1544     0  93%   8:11:16   0:03:04   1%
mona.muug.mb.ca               1     1     0     0   0%   0:00:05   0:00:02  50%
access.usask.ca           25348 25047   301     0   1%  11:26:10   0:47:04   7%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca            8     8     0     0   0%   0:00:48   0:00:11  24%
bonnie.concordia.ca       13041  2499 10542     0  81%  19:42:14   0:20:55   2%

TOTALS                    40058 27671 12387     0  31%  39:20:35   1:11:18   3%

Article Transmission (we contact them)
System                    Offrd  Took  Toss  Fail  Pct   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
mona.muug.mb.ca            6291  6291     0     0   0%   0:53:30   0:03:41   7%
access.usask.ca            1412  1411     1     0   0%   0:38:24   0:01:13   3%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         20     3    17     0  85%   0:02:02   0:00:04   4%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca        22067 22067     0     0   0%  10:27:33   0:16:08   3%
bonnie.concordia.ca       13094  2503 10589     4  81%  20:57:04   0:07:18   1%
mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca        13    13     0     0   0%   0:00:22   0:00:03  16%

TOTALS                    42897 32288 10607     4  25%  32:58:56   0:28:30   1%

Transmission Connection Attempts         ------errors-------
System                     Conn    OK    NS   Net   Rmt  Pct
mona.muug.mb.ca              48    48     0     0     0   0%
access.usask.ca              38    38     0     0     0   0%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         12    12     0     0     0   0%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca           46    46     0     0     0   0%
bonnie.concordia.ca          12     0     0     6     6 100%
mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca        11    11     0     0     0   0%

TOTALS                      167   155     0     6     6   7%

Server timeouts
pollux.cc.umanitoba.ca        2
silver.cs.umanitoba.ca        1
lithium.cs.umanitoba.ca       1
grad3.grad.umanitoba.ca       1
chekov.cc.umanitoba.ca        1
asimov.cc.umanitoba.ca        1
barium.cs.umanitoba.ca        1
Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: news@csri.toronto.edu (News user id)
Subject: utcsri nntp summary
Originator: root@yonge.csri.toronto.edu
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:01:25 GMT

NNTP log summary from Sep 26 00:02:09 to Sep 26 23:59:10

Article Reception        Offered      Took         Toss         Fail
Contacting Host           To Us    Total  Pct   Total  Pct   Total  Pct
psych                         2        2 100%       0   0%       0   0%
helios.physics               14       14 100%       0   0%       0   0%
newsflash                  8490        6   0%    8484 100%       0   0%
cs.ubc                       16       14  88%       2  13%       0   0%
scapa.cs.ualberta            66        4   6%      62  94%       0   0%
gpu.utcs                     66       52  79%      14  21%       0   0%
utstat                       70        0   0%      70 100%       0   0%
rutgers                   14084     6660  47%    7424  53%       0   0%
bonnie                    29840      772   3%   29068  97%       0   0%
usenet.rpi                19746    10856  55%    8890  45%       0   0%
zoo                         160       14   9%     146  91%       0   0%
skule.ecf                    16       16 100%       0   0%       0   0%
------------------------- -----    ----------   ----------   ----------
TOTALS                    72570    18410  25%   54160  75%       0   0%

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: <root@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: Manitoba NNTP Server Report
Originator: root@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:00:22 GMT


NNTP peer article transfers

Article Reception (they contact us)
System                  Offered  Took  Toss  Fail Toss   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
newsflash.concordia.ca     2983    78  2905     0  97%  22:24:55   0:04:06   0%
access.usask.ca            7547  7449    98     0   1%   2:37:57   0:15:48  10%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca           16    16     0     0   0%   0:00:59   0:00:11  20%
bonnie.concordia.ca       13883  3278 10602     3  76%  28:25:28   0:24:10   1%

TOTALS                    24429 10821 13605     3  56%  53:29:20   0:44:16   1%

Article Transmission (we contact them)
System                    Offrd  Took  Toss  Fail  Pct   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
mona.muug.mb.ca            1380  1380     0     0   0%   0:09:07   0:00:51   9%
access.usask.ca            1101  1030    71     0   6%   0:39:13   0:00:53   2%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         48     4    44     0  92%   0:02:51   0:00:07   5%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca         7976  7976     0     0   0%   5:05:00   0:05:58   2%
bonnie.concordia.ca       11756  2677  9076     2  77%  22:37:42   0:06:20   0%
mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca         4     4     0     0   0%   0:00:07   0:00:01  18%

TOTALS                    22265 13071  9191     2  41%  28:34:02   0:14:13   1%

Transmission Connection Attempts         ------errors-------
System                     Conn    OK    NS   Net   Rmt  Pct
mona.muug.mb.ca              48    28     0    20     0  42%
access.usask.ca              42    34     0     8     0  19%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         25    24     0     1     0   4%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca           49    48     1     0     0   2%
bonnie.concordia.ca           5     0     0     5     0 100%
mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca         4     4     0     0     0   0%

TOTALS                      173   138     1    34     0  20%

Server timeouts
newsflash.concordia.ca        2
pollux.cc.umanitoba.ca        2
bonnie.concordia.ca           3

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: news@torn.onet.on.ca (News)
Subject: torn news summary, Sep 29 1992
Original-Message-Id: <92Sep29.091414edt.57938@torn.onet.on.ca>
Original-To: news-reports
Distribution: can
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:13:49 GMT

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: news@access.usask.ca (USENET News System)
Subject: UofS NNTP summary Tue Sep 29 00:05:31 CST 1992
Organization: University of Saskatchewan Gateway
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:08:14 GMT


NNTP peer article transfers

Article Reception (they contact us)
System                  Offered  Took  Toss  Fail Toss   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
sue.cc.uregina.ca            22    22     0     0   0%   0:04:37   0:00:33  12%
ccu.umanitoba.ca           7642  7610    32     0   0%   4:07:13   0:13:11   5%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca        113    87    26     0  23%   2:21:38   0:01:29   1%
americast.com                 1     1     0     0   0%   0:01:07   0:00:07  11%
uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com       2761  2668    93     0   3%   2:56:39   0:11:03   6%
jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca     1521   691   830     0  55%  11:00:01   0:27:54   4%
kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca     19859 19245   604    10   3%  19:42:07   0:40:27   3%

TOTALS                    31919 30324  1585    10   5%  40:13:25   1:34:46   4%

Article Transmission (we contact them)
System                    Offrd  Took  Toss  Fail  Pct   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
sue.cc.uregina.ca         26596 26553    40     0   0%   9:39:21   0:18:57   3%
ccu.umanitoba.ca          19981 19771   210     0   1%   9:34:56   0:14:02   2%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         93     2    91     0  98%   0:22:13   0:00:59   4%
uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com      23575 12617 10958     0  46%  12:15:33   0:10:39   1%
jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca     2184  2184     0     0   0%   2:23:08   0:03:09   2%
kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca      7689  7634     0     0   0%   9:06:55   0:06:26   1%
softy.softwords.bc.ca      3367  3357     0     2   0%   7:46:43   0:03:38   1%

TOTALS                    83485 72118 11299     2  14%  51:08:51   0:57:53   2%

Transmission Connection Attempts         ------errors-------
System                     Conn    OK    NS   Net   Rmt  Pct
sue.cc.uregina.ca            82    82     0     0     0   0%
ccu.umanitoba.ca             82    82     0     0     0   0%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         38    37     0     0     1   3%
uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com         64    64     0     0     0   0%
jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca       68    68     0     0     0   0%
kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca        55    55     0     0     0   0%
softy.softwords.bc.ca        72    70     0     2     0   3%

TOTALS                      461   458     0     2     1   1%

Unknown NNTP server explorers
System                     Conn
skorpio.usask.ca              2
dvinci.usask.ca               5
sheol.usask.ca                1
jester.usask.ca               5
skuncle.usask.ca              1

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: news@access.usask.ca (USENET News System)
Subject: UofS NNTP summary Thu Oct  1 00:04:13 CST 1992
Organization: University of Saskatchewan Gateway
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:07:00 GMT


NNTP peer article transfers

Article Reception (they contact us)
System                  Offered  Took  Toss  Fail Toss   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
sue.cc.uregina.ca             2     2     0     0   0%   0:00:29   0:00:08  30%
ccu.umanitoba.ca            790   787     3     0   0%   0:58:45   0:04:53   8%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca        163   162     1     0   1%   1:23:45   0:01:15   2%
americast.com                 7     7     0     0   0%   0:00:50   0:00:05  11%
uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com       1604  1602     2     0   0%   2:31:46   0:10:48   7%
jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca      337     0   337     0 100%   0:08:30   0:00:36   7%
kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca      9360  8546   811     3   9%  13:03:50   0:19:59   3%

TOTALS                    12263 11106  1154     3   9%  18:07:59   0:37:48   3%

Article Transmission (we contact them)
System                    Offrd  Took  Toss  Fail  Pct   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
sue.cc.uregina.ca          9678  9678     0     0   0%   2:05:10   0:06:20   5%
ccu.umanitoba.ca           7584  7507    77     0   1%   2:16:20   0:04:47   4%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         29    15    14     0  48%   0:06:34   0:00:09   3%
uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com       8677  7796   881     1  10%   6:57:02   0:05:18   1%
jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca     1593  1593     0     0   0%   1:32:04   0:02:12   2%
kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca      1684  1659     0     0   0%   2:53:48   0:01:30   1%
softy.softwords.bc.ca      1591  1590     0     0   0%   1:39:10   0:01:44   2%

TOTALS                    30836 29838   972     1   3%  17:30:11   0:22:04   2%

Transmission Connection Attempts         ------errors-------
System                     Conn    OK    NS   Net   Rmt  Pct
sue.cc.uregina.ca            59    59     0     0     0   0%
ccu.umanitoba.ca             45    39     0     5     1  13%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         38     7     0    31     0  82%
uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com         51    50     0     1     0   2%
jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca       55    55     0     0     0   0%
kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca        60    25     0    35     0  58%
softy.softwords.bc.ca        62    42     0    20     0  32%

TOTALS                      370   277     0    92     1  25%

Unknown NNTP server explorers
System                     Conn
dvinci.usask.ca               5
jester.usask.ca              11

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: <news@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: Manitoba News System Report
Originator: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:19:43 GMT


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
access        	  9210	    16	   208	   1181	      0	    72%	     0%
alberta       	     0	     0	     0	     23	      0	     0%	     0%
bison         	     3	     0	     0	   1683	      0	     0%	     0%
bonnie        	  1226	  2001	     7	   9247	      0	    25%	    62%
ciit85        	    13	     0	     0	  10097	      0	     0%	     0%
eeserv        	     1	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%
local         	   103	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%
mizar         	     0	     0	     0	     14	      0	     0%	     0%
mona          	     3	     0	     0	   2354	      0	     0%	     0%
newsflash     	     3	   100	     0	      0	      0	     0%	    97%
pollux        	     1	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%
silver        	     2	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%
xenon         	     1	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%

TOTALS        	 10566	  2117	   215	  24599	      0	   100%	    16%

Total Articles processed 12683
Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: root@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Operator)
Subject: UofNB NNTP summary
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: can
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 05:06:25 GMT

NNTP stats for csd.unb.ca  from Oct  2 02:05:04 to Oct  3 02:03:30.

                              +--------- stats ---------+ +-- ihave_stats ---+
Host                           offer accept reject   fail accept reject   fail
============================= ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ====== ======
access.usask.ca                  881    696    185      0    883      0      0
eclipse.sheridanc.on.ca            -      -      -      -   1048      0      0
morgan.ucs.mun.ca              14240  12405   1835      0   6060      0      0
news.sheridanc.on.ca             696    524    172      0      -      -      -
owl.nstn.ns.ca                     -      -      -      -    274      0      0
torn.onet.on.ca                 3697   1234   2463      0  18445      0      0
                              ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
TOTALS                         19514  14859   4655      0  26710      0      0

Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: <news@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: Manitoba News System Report
Originator: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:19:27 GMT


System       	Accept	Reject	Junked	Xmit to	Control	% total	% rejct
access        	  7435	     8	   150	   1792	      0	    68%	     0%
alberta       	     0	     0	     0	     51	      0	     0%	     0%
bison         	     0	     0	     0	   1411	      0	     0%	     0%
bonnie        	  1774	  1499	   199	   6423	      0	    30%	    45%
ciit85        	    16	     0	     0	   7892	      0	     0%	     0%
eeserv        	     1	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%
local         	    64	     0	     0	      0	      0	     0%	     0%
mizar         	     0	     0	     0	      4	      0	     0%	     0%
mona          	     0	     0	     0	   1916	      0	     0%	     0%
newsflash     	    21	    57	     2	      0	      0	     0%	    73%

TOTALS        	  9311	  1564	   351	  19489	      0	   100%	    14%

Total Articles processed 10875
Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: <root@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Subject: Manitoba NNTP Server Report
Originator: root@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:00:21 GMT


NNTP peer article transfers

Article Reception (they contact us)
System                  Offered  Took  Toss  Fail Toss   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
newsflash.concordia.ca     2874    25  2849     0  99%  22:26:25   0:02:54   0%
access.usask.ca            9395  9332    63     0   1%   4:11:19   0:17:06   7%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca            4     1     3     0  75%   0:00:14   0:00:04  27%
bonnie.concordia.ca       14096  2876 11220     0  80%  26:54:00   0:20:19   1%

TOTALS                    26369 12234 14135     0  54%  53:32:00   0:40:24   1%

Article Transmission (we contact them)
System                    Offrd  Took  Toss  Fail  Pct   Elapsed       CPU  Pct
mona.muug.mb.ca            2222  2222     0     0   0%   0:19:21   0:01:17   7%
access.usask.ca            1124  1080    44     0   4%   0:42:52   0:00:54   2%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         44    25    19     0  43%   0:02:41   0:00:04   3%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca        12888 12888     0     0   0%   8:15:42   0:08:14   2%
bonnie.concordia.ca       28658  7203 21454     9  75%  48:07:07   0:14:55   1%
mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca         5     5     0     0   0%   0:00:05   0:00:00  12%

TOTALS                    44941 23423 21517     9  48%  57:27:51   0:25:27   1%

Transmission Connection Attempts         ------errors-------
System                     Conn    OK    NS   Net   Rmt  Pct
mona.muug.mb.ca              47    47     0     0     0   0%
access.usask.ca              47    47     0     0     0   0%
scapa.cs.ualberta.ca         28    16     0    12     0  43%
ciit85.ciit.nrc.ca           46    46     0     0     0   0%
bonnie.concordia.ca           8     1     0     7     0  88%
mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca         4     4     0     0     0   0%

TOTALS                      180   161     0    19     0  11%

Server timeouts
newsflash.concordia.ca        2
bonnie.concordia.ca           2
lithium.cs.umanitoba.ca       1
mercury.cs.umanitoba.ca       1
sulu.cc.umanitoba.ca          1
Newsgroups: can.canet.stats
From: news@csri.toronto.edu (News user id)
Subject: utcsri nntp summary
Originator: root@yonge.csri.toronto.edu
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:02:06 GMT

NNTP log summary from Sep 29 00:01:42 to Sep 29 23:59:54

Article Reception        Offered      Took         Toss         Fail
Contacting Host           To Us    Total  Pct   Total  Pct   Total  Pct
130.185.5.5               21556     6712  31%   14844  69%       0   0%
psych                        10       10 100%       0   0%       0   0%
torn.onet.on               2612     1496  57%    1116  43%       0   0%
helios.physics               32       32 100%       0   0%       0   0%
newsflash                  7238        8   0%    7230 100%       0   0%
cs.ubc                       36       26  72%      10  28%       0   0%
scapa.cs.ualberta           138       20  14%     118  86%       0   0%
gpu.utcs                     62       52  84%      10  16%       0   0%
utstat                      106        0   0%     106 100%       0   0%
rutgers                   31178    17500  56%   13678  44%       0   0%
bonnie                    27668     1462   5%   26206  95%       0   0%
usenet.rpi                29394    18496  63%   10898  37%       0   0%
zoo                          84       24  29%      60  71%       0   0%
skule.ecf                  2640     1638  62%    1002  38%       0   0%
------------------------- -----    ----------   ----------   ----------
TOTALS                    122754    47476  39%   75278  61%       0   0%

Newsgroups: can.canet.d
From: daniel@nstn.ns.ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Canadian Charlottetown Accord, by gopher!
Original-Message-Id: <1992Oct1.205245.18883@nstn.ns.ca>
Apparently-To: canet-d@canet.ca
Original-To: <canet-d@canet.ca>
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:52:45 GMT

Hello!

The Charlottetown Accord, a wide ranging set of constitutional amendments
containing sweeping changes to the Canadian constitution, is now available
from the Nova Scotia Technology Network gopher service.

The Consensus Report, also known as the Referendum Deal (not a referendum,
of course, but really a non-binding plebiscite) is part of the Constitution
Kit, which also contains a Fact Sheet and separate Highlights section.

The Report, a relatively small document, hasn't been indexed; if there's a
great hue and cry for an index, we'll do it.

Point your gopher to:

	nstn.ns.ca

and choose the "Other Information" menu item to get to the Constitutional
Kit.

For those of you without gopher clients, please help yourself to the NSTN
public gopher.  Telnet to nstn.ns.ca, and log in as "fred", no password.
Point to the "Other Information" menu item as above.

You'll need a vt100 terminal emulator to use the anonymous gopher client.
Send bricks, send bouquets, to "support@nstn.ns.ca".
--
	Daniel MacKay				daniel@nstn.ns.ca
	NOC Manager, NSTN Operations Centre	902-494-NSTN
	Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Newsgroups: can.politics
From: bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross)
Subject: Re: What "Manning-Trudeau" manifesto?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Brock University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:47:57 GMT

pasward@maytag.uwaterloo.ca (Paul A.S. Ward) writes:
: 
: No.  99% of YOUR postings are and always have been biased emotional rantings.
: 
: I have heard many intelligent things from both sides of the debate.  I
: have heard nothing intelligent from you.

Ah, yes. Typical.  Rather than inject some issues into the thread,
Ward throws in some ad hominem.  I suppose the traditional advice of
"get a life" is appropriate here.

-- 
Brian Ross                         "I fell into some ice and your scientists 
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                                    confuses me!" -- Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Newsgroups: can.politics
From: bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross)
Subject: Re: Watch the Journal this week
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Brock University
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:35:51 GMT

golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
: In article <1992Oct6.130526.991@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:
: >
: >The issue of whether the document creates a hierarchy of classes, as Trudeau 
: >claims, was generally refuted. 
: 
: It most certainly was not...they had four people whose views spanned the
: range from seeing the Canada Clause as harmless, to Michael Bliss, who 
: essentially agrees with Trudeau.  Whether it was refuted depends on
: who you agree with...the concensus, if any, is that we really cannot
: know how the Courts will use the clause...the Canada Clause may be
: harmless, BUT IT MAY NOT BE as well.  

Two of the four didn't seem bothered, Bliss backed Trudeau's arguments,
and the last didn't voice a strong opinion. This tells me that Trudeau's
interpretation isn't as black and white as some people would like to believe.  

Truism: depending on your mind set, you can interpret any constitution any 
way you want.  

Therefore, the legal text is what we need to see before we can nit pick..

-- 
Brian Ross                         "I fell into some ice and your scientists 
bross@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca     thawed me! Your modern world frightens and
                                    confuses me!" -- Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer