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From: mxl@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (marc.a.levy)
Subject: Apple Computers/parts FOR SALE
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:14:57 GMT



Selling:

   Apple //gs 'WOZ' with ROM 01 Upgrade
   Apple RGB Monitor
   Apple 3.5 drive
   2 Apple 5.25 drives
   Apple 1 MEG RAM card
   Apple Imagewriter II Color Printer.
   All Manuals and Boxes.  System has VERRY LITTLE use on it.



Also Selling:

    Apple //C system
    Apple external 5.25 drive
    Modem
    Serial-to-paralell converter
    Paralell Sekio printer
    Apple Tilt-screen monitor.


Spare Parts for apple II

    Novation Apple Cat 300/202 MODEM
    Apple 16Sector disk ][ controler card.
    Applied Engeneering Z-80 Card
    Assorted Paralell Printer cards.
    Star Micronics 9 pin dot matrix paralell printer.


If interested, E-Mail me!

Marc.
From: spector@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple MIDI on Ultima V
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:01:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  Does anyone know a way of fooling Origin System's "Ultima V" into working
with an Apple MIDI? It was written to support Passport MIDI slot cards, but 
I'm sure there must be a way to patch the program to send output to the serial
port (shadowing slot #2). Does such as patch exist, or is it possible to 
write one..?

Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: marekp@generic.uucp (Marek Pawlowski)
Subject: Re: Blue Helmet
Organization: Terra*Net Public Access Unix BBS.  (416) 731-{3468,9867}, 237-0308
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:15:36 GMT

joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:


>To: Steve Jorgensen
>Re: Blue Helmet

>Oh boy. The plot thickens. I uploaded Blue Helmet to c.b.a2. I also applied
>a patch before I uploaded it, so that it would steer correctly on a ROM3. I
>just assume it works, as I don't own a ROM3.

>But, I do own a ROM01, and the version I uploaded steers to the right and
>left on my machine. If you want to restore Blue Helmet to its non-patched
>version as supplied by the FTA, go to block $01C3, byte $01AD and change the
>$50 back to a $40.

   I also own a ROM01.  If I boot the disk fresh off (meaning I just popped
the disk in, and power up), it won't let me go right.  It helps greatly if
I boot up Sensei, and when I get to the menu, pop Blue Helmet in, and C-OA-R
my way in to it.  That works - though the game crashes in to the monitor
(graphics page still running) after racing through about 4:30:00 of the game.

   This problem seems to exist in Oil Landers - in that when you actually
get to the part where you drive around, you can NOT move the joystick.  Wait,
that was mis-leading.  What I'm saying here, is that if I leave the joystick
alone until I actually get the whole screen drawn, everything is OK.  But if
I'm already holding the joystick in any direction when it's starting to draw
the stuff on the screen, I can't go right.

   FTA having buggy joystick code?  Or something else?

>For anyone who hasn't yet downloaded Blue Helmet, do so at your own risk.
>Just be aware that many people are reporting having problems with it.

   MANY!?  I think that "all" would be more accurate.  It crashes on
everybody I know.  Sure, run that "it's not done yet" at me again.  This
should be EXPLICITLY written out for all the people to know that Blue
Helmet is NOT complete, and WILL crash on you.

>Sorry....

>Joe Kohn

-- 

Marek Pawlowski  -  marekp@terranet.cts.com marekp@generic.uucp
A genuine inquisitive computer enthusiast.  Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
OBJobOfferRequest: Sign me up on a programming contract!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bk@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Bruce Kravets)
Subject: Re: System Bad: C000005 (anyone know?)
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/453-8726 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:50:28 GMT

This is strange, I have a Transwarp and it passes the system diagnostic
every time.  I have a Rom I, could this be for the Rom 3?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
Subject: Re: Should I buy this //c?
Keywords: Apple, //c, //e
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:01:01 GMT


To: Charles Chang
RE: a IIc for $100

I can't believe anyone is really asking if $100 is a good price for a
complete computer system. Of course it's a great price. In fact, it's the
best pricing I've ever heard. As they say in California...go for it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: SCSI cards
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:46:40 GMT

tracadas@athena.mit.edu (Philip W Tracadas) writes:


>Can someone say something about the RamFast SCSI and the Apple SCSI and any
>other apple // SCSI cards?  

The RF is the fastest, also it can DMA to non-DMA compatible memory (read:
8MB cards, or old cards) if no TWGS is in the system. The Apple SCSI card
does not use DMA, is slow and does not benefit of all drivers: Forget it.
The Apple HS SCSI card uses DMA, is not as fast as the RF, but has a more
flexible driver concept. So, if you need to connect a Scanner or such,
you are (at the moment) better off with the HS SCSI than the RF.
If you just want a HD or two and a tape for backup purposes, go with
the RF. Get a Rev.D 256k or a "refurbished" Rev.C ... the latter costs
only $100, I believe, but is bigger than the Rev.D and not upgradeable to
1Meg cache (though many people claim the the extra cache does not speed
up execution).

>Also, what about the Roger Wagner Publishing deal on 4mb memory?  Is his 
>memory card compatible with everything else?  What makes a good memory card?

Should be. 4MB cards are easy to do. A good card adheres to the rules (all
newer cards do) and is therefore DMA compatible and, of course, is
mechanically OK. So, apart from _very_ old cards AE once did, all of
them should be just fine.

Soenke

-- 
===========================================================================
More than silver, more than gold, I need   !    behrenss@informatik.
electricity. I need it for my dreams.      !    tu-muenchen.de
(RACTER)                                   !  FIDO: 2:246/13 Soenke Behrens
From: eam@gumbee.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ed A. Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: software sale
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:24:24 GMT
Organization: Melbourne FL

mail to BuLoG3.77G@fiu.edu bounced.  Please provide an alternate route.

Thanx,
Ed
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Woz certificates
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:55:01 GMT

Obviously, then, you guys don't have _real_ Woz Limited Edition Apple IIGSes.
Haven't you all heard about the IIGS counterfeit ring they broke up back in
'87? :)

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd   | ACM Member | Apple II Alliance Charter Member | 
--------------------------------+-----------------------------------
InterNet: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu   | Use FahrWorks & watch the sparks
America Online: Sheppy          | fly!      - Fahr Corp. Slogan
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Zoom v.32bis w/proterm 3.0
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:23:17 PST
Organization: BBS

Now I use the SupraFAXmodem Plus driver.  It works fine.  I get between
1550-1700 cps on compressed filez ( either .zip .sit .cpt or .shk ).  The
connection was with v.42/v.42bis.  So eveything is okay.

It's just that on many BBSes, I can d/l via Zmodem w/no problem.  But uploads
are different stories... ( the ZPROS... somethin' like that ).  Note that the
problems are on the SAME BBS that I can d/l w/out problems.  More likely the
problem is the cables.  In the manual, it recommands getting a correct HH
cable, or use the xmit unbuffered modem port ( I tried, no difference at all ),
and remove &c1.

Since the Zmodem problem only occurs on u/l's, I could really care less.  As
long as d/l is fine.  Since I am not sure if the problem is actually the cable,
I don't think I am going to get one.  Any comments?

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
cyprus systems
From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AutoArc (Looks like Staker for GS)
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:42:14 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Sep13.195015.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsemm@acad3.alaska.edu (Edward M. Moore) writes:
>In A+/Incider, on page 60 (In the back with all the little companies), in the
>corner there is an add by Econ Technologies for a product called AutoArc, for
>the IIgs.  Basically, the add describes autoarc as a finder extention and desk
>acessory that compresses + expands applications + documents on the fly.  I'd
>like to know why none of this has been mentioned on the net, assuming that
>there really is such a product.......  With all the people wanting something
>like Auto-Doubler......
>

I second this. I'd also like to know how much it costs.

>
>-- 
>===============================================================================
>Edward M. Moore     |  Internet:  FSEMM@acad3.alaska.edu or FSEMM@Alaska.bitnet
>Box 900316          |  Bitnet:    FSEMM@Alaska
>Univeristy of Alaska|  IRC:	  Imana
>Fairbanks, AK, 99775|  Telephone: (907) 474-7537
>===============================================================================


-- 
-Tero Sand
  EMail: cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi     Snail mail: Auroran Sairaala os. 6-1
  (if that doesn't work, try                    Nordenskioldinkatu 20
   cust_ts@kruuna.helsinki.fi)                  00250 Helsinki 25, Finland
From: jackm@pro-scat.cts.com (Jack Maher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: soundmaster?
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:51:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.

GS/OS tem 6.0 does all this for you!  If you are still using an earlier
version of GS/OS you can get Signature from Q-Labs (Quality Computers that
will do all that for you as well.
From: FORDE@uv6.eglin.af.mil ("ERIC S FORD")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: More help for the dummy...
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:57:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Ok, I need help again.  Will someone please tell me (as briefly as 
possible) what to do with the '.tar' and '.shar' files?  Specifically, what 
creates them, what extracts them, what is their advantage over Shrinkit 
files and or Binscii files?

Eric S. Ford
forde@uvg.eglin.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Flopticals...any successful usage out there?
Keywords: Floptical, Insite, SCSI
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 06:50:53 GMT

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>All these drives are accessed using READ_BLOCK and WRITE_BLOCK calls
>to the MLI.  Formatting one of these disks causes the PCT software to
>call the device's ProDOS block driver's FORMAT routine.

>The only support the PCT has for "hard drives" is a file on a ProDOS
>volume, which contains the image of a PC hard drive, including
>partition table.  The PCT uses standard ProDOS MLI calls (OPEN, READ,
>WRITE, SET_MARK, etc.) to access these.

Since this is all P8, you will be relying on the DMA SCSI or RamFast firmware.
The DMA SCSI firmware does not appear to handle the floptical correctly at all.
The Ramfast firmware will work IF the disk is partitioned AND it is inserted
when P8 starts up (i.e. the RF has to tell P8 there is a device there when it
is building the device list or the RF will not notify P8 when you _do_ insert
a disk).

In either case you are screwed. MSDOS floppies that you get from PC users don't
have partition maps on them, and they will refuse to recognize a floppy that
the RF has put a partition map on.

The only way to get this to work is for CVT to support the floptical, and they
haven't said anything definite yet.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Undelete files - help?
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 06:29:00 EDT
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465

rheinze@lrc.edu writes:

> 
> Can anyone tell me if there is a program that will undelete
> files on an Apple /// -  yes a 3.
> 
> I accidently deleted some text files and could not recover them.
> I don't want that to happen again.
> 
> I would like to undelete files and alphabetize them too, if possible.


For what ever reason, I read this two days ago and replied yesterday 
having forgotten what was asked.  I remembered that he wanted to optimize 
the disk!! \ARG!!!!!  In any event, ProSel or any ProDOS utilities disk 
will exume the files for you!           Larry

InterNet: larry@lablues.UUCP
FidoNet:  1:132/300 Larry Schneider

0 ----> Kernel ----> Ring    207=379-3181
           ^         ^   
The         \       /     Larry Schneider 
"Clearly"    \     /      Bright Software
Functor       \   /        P. O. Box 120
commutes        0       Exeter, ME 04435-0120
From: phs172m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen Harker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Date: 5 Sep 92 11:25:37 +1000
Organization: Physics Department, Monash University, Australia

In article <16598@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, mock@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Kenrick Mock) writes:
>>While ProTerm seems really nice, I always wanted to see a GS specific telecom
>>program.  Some may say QuickDraw II is too slow for telecom...  how about
>>ORCA's Prizm?  Prizm can scroll by one line as fast as the text mode, and
> 
> Prizm?  I don't know about that :)  It's not made for telecomming.
> Prizm is really just a bunch of windows that have output for various
> "programs."
> 
> For GS specific telecom programs, check out AnsiTerm.  The latest
> version runs on the desktop, supports zmodem, Ansi emulation, and
> other stuff.  To get around the scrolling problem in QuickDraw, there
> is a setting for how many lines to scroll.  Instead of smooth
> scrolling one line at a time, you can set the scroll to something like
> 3 or 4 lines at once.  It's necessary at 9600+ speeds or the screen
> can't keep up with transmission.

	Personally I would be more impressed with these and other offerings
if they would also do Tektronics graphics.  I believe that there is one GS
program that does Tektronics emulation, though little else.  There are of
course limitations in resolution with a GS or a //e, but something like
the emulation offered in the MS-DOS version of Kermit would be very useful. 
This gives a pretty chunky output on hercules or mono graphics, but the
information is accessible for a lot of purposes.  Certainly this is not
outside what the GS is capable of.

-- 
Stephen Harker			phs172m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Monash University		Baloney baffles brains: Eric Frank Russell
From: colbyp@pro-freedom.cts.com (Colby Pederson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Chess
Date: 6 Sep 92 04:21:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep5.212141.1813
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


  I was just wondering if anybody has a chess game for the Apple IIgs.  I
can't find any around here and I not joined to any of the major companies
(GEnie, Compuserve, etc.).  If anyone has the time, could they please
upload a copy to comp.sys.binaries.   Thanks.

                                        Colby Pederson

ProLine:  <LOGIN>@<HOST>
Internet: <LOGIN>@<HOST><DOMAIN>
UUCP:     crash!<HOST>!<LOGIN>
From: rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Roby Sherman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple RISC board for sale...
Keywords: apple RISC for sale
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:10:27 GMT
Organization: The Tao of Programming
NNTP-Posting-Host: mthvax.cs.miami.edu

For Sale -

(1) Apple Series II, model E motherboard (Un-enhanced Revision)
    w/ 6502 RISC (*REDUCED* instruction) Processor
    and over 524,000 bits of on-board RAM.

    Board Functions PERFECTLY! Make an Offer!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Send offers to : rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu
-- 
rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu					Roby Sherman
From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Re: GS/OS System 5.0.4 vs System 6.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:12:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.035534.13554@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:
>	I made the following observation regarding 5.0.4 and 6.0.  I'm
>using a GS-RAM Plus with 6 megabytes and a 9/32 Zip GSX.  My system
>works perfectly under 5.0.4 but under 6.0, I have to remove 2 megabytes
>of RAM from my RAM card; otherwise I'll get the error message "Finder
>needs at least 600k .....".  My ram disk is set to 800k.  I somehow feel
>that System 5.0.4 is more stable than 6.0.  6.0 seems pretty sensitive
>to a lot of things.  I'm using an Apple High-Speed SCSI which does DMA
>fine under 5.0.4 with 6 megabytes of RAM.
>
>	Could anybody offer any help or advice as to the above symptom?
>Thanx in advance. :)
>
>- DOTW -

I am experience the same type of problems with 6.0.  I have an AE
GS Ram plus, and the old memory config was 3 megs.  When I switched
over to 6.0, I was getting "Finder needs at least 600K..." error
message when returning from programs like WordWorks, Shrinkit GS,
etc., and now I have 6 megs (the GS-Ram+ complete filled), and
still getting the message once in a while.

However annoying these errors are, a simple reset will cure this :)
And I am not about to give up everything the 6.0 brings, FinderExtensions,
new and improved Finder, new FST, etc.  (thanks Andy, Matt and Dave, and
all those other programers that I don't know about!)

Maybe 6.01 will fix these errors.

Jimmy

--
Jimmy Shaw			 RamFAST, ZipGSX and 6.0... Apple II Forever!
jimmys@ics.uci.edu
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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Modula-2 for the Apple IIGS
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:16:15 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

ltchean@rambutan.iss.nus.sg (lim thye chean) writes:

>In article <bazyar.715986159@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>>
>>  Y'all are forgetting one important thing... well, it's partially
>>my fault for never making a public announcement, but I suppose it's time.
>>lcc should be able to compile g++ C output without any problems.  At the
>>moment there is one code generator bug.  Yep, one (dealing with bit
>>fields).  See my public announcement shortly.

>What is g++ C? Is it a C++ clone?

  It is the Free Software Foundation's free C++ compiler.

>Do you need Orca/C to run it? Or Orca/M is required?

  You need some C compiler. I doubt ORCA/C 1.3 could in general compile G++'s
output, which is Yet Another reason I'm working on lcc.

>Seems to be like a very long process just to get one program run. And it
>will be half the speed of Orca/C.

  Possibly, but we'll do timing tests when we have it all running :)
-- 
 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bird@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (j.l.walters)
Subject: Re: Renaissance...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 03:54:15 GMT

From article <m0mQaYv-0000dEC@crash.cts.com>, by kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan):
>> From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
>> In article <m0mP9WM-0000NpC@crash.cts.com> ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal
>> Pitts) writes: >>> Will Harmonie drive DeskWriter? <<
>> >
>> >Harmonie will drive DeskWriter.  If the add says it will drive DeskJet, then
>> >don't worry because the DeskJet and the Desk Writer are the same printer;
>> one >for the Mac (Writer) and one for the PC (Jet).
>> 
>> The DW and the DJ are not the same printer ( direct from HP technical
>> support). It's not just an issue of different coloured cases.
> 
> Correct. The DeskWriter is a Mac specific beast that has an Appletalk
> interface. It won't work from ProDOS 8, but can be used from GS/OS if one uses
> the DeskJET driver PLUS the high speed serial PORT driver the Bill Heineman
> wrote. 
> 

Also, there are two other options that work with the DeskJet:

1. Independence drives the DeskJet for  16 bit programs

2. SuperPatch 8.0 has a driver for AppleWorks 3.0 that results in
   STUNNING text if the P1 option is chosen in your WP file.

One caveat about SuperPatch, it sends the wrong ESC codes in one
case for some versions of SuperPatch. It sends a 1 rather than a l (one
rather than a L). This has been reported to Quality Computers. As far
as I know, they WILL release and updated version. The further good news
is, you can correct it from the Appleworks printer menus AFTER you
install the drivers if you have an older version.

The "more better news is," the printer works with ProTerm, etc., dumps
to PR#1. Buy it, it is GREAT!
-- 


				Joe Walters att!ihlpw!bird   
				IH 2A-227 (708) 979-9527
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Looking for null-modem cable source
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:32:31 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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To:
From: FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("ERIC S FORD")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Archive.Umich.EDU status?
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:24:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Is anyone else having problems accessing the apple2 files on the subject 
node?  I can cd to the apple2 directory and ls the files there but 
attempting to get any of the files or access any of the lower 
subdirectories only gets me an I/O error message.

forde@uvg.eglin.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple //e (enhanced) upgrades?
From: kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:54:20 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Bruce Anderson asks:

        Where do I get ProDOS 2.x?
        Is the ZIP for the 8 bit Apples any good?
        Is the AE TransWarp any better?
        Is there a CHEAP hard drive out there that I can use with this?
        I've been hearing quite a bit lately about a ProDOS init
for the Mac. Could someone tell me:
 
        #1: how to get it (and WHERE!)
        #2: what are the system requirements? (LC w/ //e card?)
        #3: why no-one made one sooner? 8^)

End Quote:

ProDOS 2.0 was released as part of GS/OS 6.0, and has not, (to the best of
my knowledge) been released separately. If you've got a friend with a
IIGS, get it from him. 

The //e Zip Chip works GREAT!! I've had one for 3 years. The early
versions were garbage, but quality control is much better now. 

The TransWarp card is a tad slower than a ZIP and takes up a slot. Other
than that, there's not much difference. 

Get an Apple SCSI card  and use ANY SCSI hard disk. When/if you choose,
move the HD to your Mac and reformat it. 

I presume you mean the ProDOS FST, which allows your Mac to read Apple //
ProDOS disks. I'm not sure when it came out, but your Apple dealer ought
to be able to provide you with a copy. It works on ANY Mac, including my
Levco Monster Mac with 800K drives. And just to tweak your interest, GS/OS
6.0 includes an HFS FST, so my Mac can read my IIGS disks and my IIGS can
read my Mac disks. Now all we need are compatible programs........


Ken Mitchell
kmitche@eis.calstate.edu
From: JoeKu+@CMU.EDU (Joseph Wei-Cheng Ku)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: marble madness!
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:56:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oegerCW00WB_QZqkAv
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Hello people 
I am trying to get into the secret level on Marble madness, but
apparently I lost some of my MARBLES! Is there anybody  out there
who could tell me what the trick is ?

reply to me directly please, or to Greg Thompson. 
thanks 
-JK