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From: sdoshi@olaf.wellesley.edu (Sucheta Doshi)
Subject: Re: GH: Thursday Update 9/17/92
Organization: Wellesley College
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:16:59 GMT

In article <wek5yIC00aw347akMB@andrew.cmu.edu> Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>The house might not be Holly's, but she has every right to
>> mourn Robert.  He was HER husband (divorce wasn't final
>>before he died) and she loved him.  As to
>>Anna's child, Robin is/was also Robert's child, and he asked
>> Holly to take care of her.

>
>Gimme a break!  I find Holly mourning for Robert absolutely sickening. 
>For five years, she let him believe that she had actually died in that
>plane crash.  She just disappeared with no note, no phone call, no
>nothing.  If she loved him so much, why didn't she reappear BEFORE
>Robert married Anna?
>
>As for the part about Robin, Robert did ask Holly to take care of her.
>
>-Jenn

THANK YOU JENNIFER!!!!!!  At least someone out there agrees with me.  I don't
know who wrote the original bit about Robert still being Holly's hubby since
the writer for that strand was deleted, but Robert is NOT Holly's husband as 
far as I'm concerned.  Nan pointed out in a prior article that Holly and
Robert's divorce was not finalized..well Robert signed the divorce papers, even
if Holly didn't.  And how do we know that Anna did in fact sign the divorce 
papers way back in 1978 anyway???  Isn't it quite possible that Anna was still
in love with Robert and did exactly what Holly did..and just didn't sign the
divorce papers until 1985 when she found out how much Rob and Holly loved 
each other.  THAT WOULD MAKE ROBERT AND HOLLY'S MARRIAGE ILLEGAL, wouldn't
it?  And Anna and Robert 's marriage would be completely legal and legitimate.
And therefore, Holly has absolutely NO claim to the Scorpio house at all.  
That's the way it is in my book, so there.

	About Holly being out of character through the current writers..I
don't think any of what she did was out of character.  HOlly was always a 
selfish, self-absorbed woman who always hated Anna  so I think it a perfect
punishment for her that Sly despises her and that Robert and Anna will
be together forever.  I love the way Sly is treating Holly..it's great!
And I'm thrilled that she will finally be leaving Mac and Robin's house, 
too bad she isn't leaving PC.   If Emma Samms had to come back..couldn't
the writers have just introduced her as Paloma and NOT as Holly?  But no, 
all those GH "fans" out there who were so upset about Bill not being Luke
just couldn't bear to see her come back if not as Holly.  That woman's
presence in PC is preventing Bill and Julia from reuniting and is
turning Bill into a bigger jerk thatn he was before.  I for one can't
wait until she leaves PC for good.

-Sucheta



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From: kd1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (karen.dworkin)
Subject: GH: Remember King????
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:02:49 GMT
Keywords: still annoying

I was watching a new sitcom this week called Rhythm and Blues
(about a white DJ working for an all black radio station) and
the station owners son is none other than King (Katherine
Delafields little friend).  He's a bit older but that whining
voice is unmistakeable.

		-- Karen

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From: slaury@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Susan Laury)
Subject: GH: Robin Sighting
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:13:13 GMT

I was out at Glengarry Glen Ross last weekend and saw a
preview for the movie Consenting Adults. The actress
who plays Robin is in the movie. She plays Kevin
Kline's daughter in it.

The movie looks like it might be interesting -- I
couldn't tell how big a part Robin played in it.

Sus.

-- 
And the speaking will get easier and easier. ... And at last you'll know with
surpassing certainty that only one thing is more frightening than speaking
your truth. And that is not speaking.
		--Naomi Wolf, Commencement Address, Scripps College
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From: cjp@megatek.com (Chris "Systems Stud" Pikus)
Subject: Re: HF: Robert and his new wife
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:43:07 GMT

steph@ivy.Princeton.EDU (Stephanie Eggers) writes:
> What is Roberts wifes name?  I know that they have said it on the
> show a couple of times but I'm having a slight memory block.
> I like Robert alot and I think I'm starting to like his wife too.
> What does everyone else think about their storyline?  
> 
> Stephanie Eggers
> steph@ivy.princeton.edu

	Her name is "Perrette". (Not sure if it is with one or two 'r's)



-- 
Christopher J. Pikus,        | "Forgive me for not knowing about El Salvador. 
Megatek Corp., San Diego, CA | Like it's not like I'm ever going to go to Spain
INTERNET: cjp@megatek.com    | or anything."	  -- "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Jervision
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:28:41 GMT
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Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

OK, does it bother anyone else that Jervision is completely
sexist?  I mean, why doesn't the guy have visions of Trevor
as his "damsel" in distress?!  No, he can only see Erica,
Nat, Silver, Ceara, and DinHoLee.  He also doesn't see
Nat in danger for some reason.  Maybe Jervision has a
one-damsel (track) mind?

Susan
--
Susan E. Margulies       |  "The young lady with the uzi,
HP Imaging Systems       |   is she single?"
508-681-2153             |       
susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com  |  - River Phoenix as Karl in "Sneakers"
From: paynter@ast.dsd.northrop.com (Ann M. Paynter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Billy Clyde
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:53:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northrop ESD - Rolling Meadows Facility

In article <1992Sep28.184235.24704@athena.mit.edu> zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.164625.15971@IRO.UMontreal.CA> laviers@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Cocotte Minute) writes:
>>>WE...DID...NOT...SEE...THE...BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>I thought they *did* find his body.

>I believe THEY DID find his body but we did NOT see it. I don't
>think BCT is ever coming back as Karen Morgan calls him BCT, RIP :-)

>CAZ

we DID see a body.  there was a small boat on the river and they pulled
a body out of the water.  we had to wait over the weekend, i think, to
find out that the body was bct and not tadski.  the camera was so far
back that it was hard to tell who was being pulled into the boat.  i
think i still have this on tape somewhere.

ann p.

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From: ohrd!crobshaw@cs.toronto.edu (Catharine Robshaw)
Subject: Re: Y&R - history
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 16:13:46 GMT

toni@dmntor.UUCP (Toni Spurgeon) writes:
: 
: We're at about 1985-86!
: 
This is about the time when I started watching Y&R.  It's great
to see these recaps, I had forgotten a lot of this stuff.  Thanks
Toni!  By the way, where are you getting this info from?

Catharine
ohrd!crobshaw@cs.toronto.edu
From: sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Monday the 5th
Date: 5 Oct 1992 22:24:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu




Today really sucked the big one didn't it?  Geez, and I watched it
live.....Like does anyone really care about Scarrie, Billie, Asstin,
Jessie, and the rest of the Salem 90210 wannabes? Geez, and get some
decent music.....wow I mean I was thrilled beyond words at the
spiked punch, and watching Billie drop acid or whatever it was. I
really care about her character, and really am interested in what
happens to her, and I really am concerned for her drug problem...
SheeeeRight....Oh, yes her drug induced paranoia was done so well.
And I really care for poor Asstin, and how he really cares for 
Scarrie, and how he is trying to rehab Billie...Get really Ken
this sucks, no one gives a FF. 

Why did we have to have some darn many scenes with Carly and Ickie,
and not more scenes of John trying to cope with this thing. I 
think that more should be done with him then Carnalknowledge.
And what the heck is this crap about Ickie'sassisoutaofthereinninedays
asking Carly and Bo to take care of Brady...YUCK...Double YUCK...
Triple YUCK...

The Kim, Shane, Butthead, and WrongMan stuff yawn.....though I did
like the fact that WrongMan really layed into Butthead but (ha ha ha)
good. (sure he was upset about Ickie) but he sure as hell has not
been acting very professional, and has been expecting preferential
treatment from Abe and WrongMan...and for being a cop give us a break
he is a good excuse for cop killing. And I know that I would feel
very safe knowing that he would do one of his piercing looks and the
bad guy would be incapacitated....that look of his sure brings 
terror to the hearts and minds of evil doers everywhere...

Only redemning things were Jefferson Airplane on the jukebox at
Casey's and Tim....The guy was honest to Scarrie, admitting
his role in the gambling, and that his partner wants to stop it
but he is uncertain...And come on can anyone say that the guy
who plays Tim is not a better actor, and more enjoyable to watch
than Asstin, AKA never got a line right?


The letter for today kids is "N," and the number is "9."
NINE (9) episodes until shalom Ickie....


Spudnix--This Spud's for you--Peel


-- 


This Space for Rent.       		
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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: GL:  Nadine
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:44:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.062807.16835@schbbs.mot.com> A25152@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Pam Sorensen) writes:
>------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>Path: schbbs!mothost!ftpbox!uunet!gumby!destroyer!gatech!pitt.edu!jmgst26
>From: jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin)
>Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
>Subject: GL: Nadine's prank
>Message-ID: <6313@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
>Date: 25 Sep 92 19:46:53 GMT
>Sender: news+@pitt.edu
>Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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>Originator: jmgst26@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu
>
>How does Nadine plan to keep Billy away from her while she stuffs her
>shirt with pillows (or whatever).  Also, she goes from "unpregnant"
>to six months size overnight! SHEESSHH!  Did you see the look Maureen
>gave her?  I lost it!  She looked completely incredulous, as she should!

This simply blew me away. I can't recall the last time Harley saw her,
but it can't be many months back. I'd like to see an episode when Harley
goes to congratulate her mother and says "Mom, you can't be that
pregnant, so soon!!" At least I'm quite convinced Harley is that smart.


>I have a couple of thoughts about Nadine too.  What will she do when
>Billy wants to feel the baby kick or when he is hugging her and all
>of a sudden her belly caves in?  What will she do when it comes time
>to have this baby?  I think this story line is getting really silly!

It is getting ridiculous for me too. Someone else might have been able to
pull this off, but Nadine? I don't think I buy it. And isn't Bridget
showing?? How come Maureen hasn't noticed??


>Lillian is to sicky sweet ...  She sits there while Maureen calls and
>keeps gushing about sleeping with her friend's husband.  Granted, she's
>happy about the negative test results, but Ed obviously feels some guilt,
>and she seems to care less.  Lillian just doesn't seem like the "homewrecking"
>type.  Even though she loves Ed, you'd think that she have more scruples than
>he does!

I just believe this storyline is out of character for Lillian. I'm not
even talking about the fact that she's sleeping with her friend's
husband, since pretty much anyone can find him/herself in that position
in soapland, but I've always known Lillian to be quite sensitive. To be
so self-centered is not like her. She would have at least dreaded the
feelings of her friend about the situation. She just kept going on about
the best day of her life ... blah blah blah, and I was simply sick to
the stomach.


>Get Eleni and Frank back together and put AM on trial, soon!

I couldn't agree more. This storyline is beginning to drag for me. I
wish they'd get on with it!! Wouldn't it be something if A-M went to
jail and was replaced by his father in the Spaulding mansion? IF that
happens I want Alex back.

>
>
From: giordano@andromeda.rutgers.edu (E. Giordano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: LOVING: Trucker
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:25:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Probably Stacey(since she has nothing else to do)
is a little tooo close to Trucker and maybe even
jealous of Trisha
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From: van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson)
Subject: Re: HF: Robert and his new wife
Summary: Robert's leaving the show!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:33:20 GMT


I just read in TV Guide (like a few of the other AMC
posters, when I get it, I read it cover to cover!) that Robert is being
written out of the show!  I was shocked...I really don't understand why
the writers would do that.  He's a good character - remember when he got
in trouble because Gina was staying with his family?  I only saw the
first episode this season, but I was looking forward to watching it when he
brought his wife back to town.  Obviously, if the HF writers don't read
the net, they should...everyone likes Robert.

Valerie 

Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:54:30 -0400 
From: Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GH: I want my mommy

> I thought Tracy was great on Friday. A lot of good dialogue. Like;
> 
>Tracy, upon finding Ned home in the middle of the day, in a sweet voice,
>   "Hello darling, you're home early."
>Ned replies,
>   "I miss my mommy, what can I say."
> 
>And many other one-liners...... 
>It was a good show as long as Tracy was present.

Tracy and Ned together are always great.  Like mother, like son.  I
wonder how she'll be with Dylan when he grows up?

-Jenn
From: glimmer@camelot.bradley.edu (Jennifer Young)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Place results so far
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:14:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Bradley University

In <Bvo39w.AMG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese) writes:
>>Curt - New Jersey
>>Suzanne - Pennsylvania
>>John - New Jersey
>>Jean - Indiana
>>Richard - Ohio
>>Viv - Washington State
>>Carol - Ohio
>>Lisa - Michigan
>>Denise - Rhode Island
>>Sheila - Iowa
>>Leila - Maryland
>>Tammy - Maryland
>>
>>As you can see probably somewhere on the East Coast, preferrably Suzanne's
>>house (if she can handle this many and more if needed).  I don't think
>>we have heard from everyone yet, so it is still up in the air if we
>>get more people and Suzanne cannot handle it.
>>
>>Viv:  I would like to extend a personal invitation for you to stay at
>>my home.
>>


>Maybe we could have concurrent meetings, in the east and midwest? I
>can't afford to go _nowhere_ with my husband in school. Then we can
>haved a video link-up and have two parties at once!

i thought i had posted my preference before..... i can't go out of the
midwest... and i'll probably need a ride or whatnot.... 
:)
jen

--
The Shimmering Glimmer         Jennifer Young        glimmer@camelot.bradley.edu

Kampf Um die Leben: "To be nobody -but- yourself in a world which is doing
its best, night and day, to make you everybody else means to fight and
never stop fighting."  
                         -- e.e. cummings
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From: rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us (Ruth Alleman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: (offensive) Days and cigarette companies
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:40:59 GMT
Organization: Home Sweet Home, Lafayette, LA

In article <92268.115212IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET> <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1992Sep21.142202.3203@sadtler.com>, rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
>says:
>>Spud. A. Wilson wrote:

>>>Spud--debating back and forth if I should attend or should skip my
>>>high school reunion (and my time there sucked); what do you folks
>>>think?--Peel

>>    o Spud should go to High School Reunion

>This is my vote.  GO!  I just had mine about 1 1/2 years ago.  I too was very
>uncertain whether or not I wanted to go.  My first reaction was no way, these
>people and I don't have anything in common anymore, I never got along with the
>majority of them, etc.  However, when I went the reception I got was unbeliev-
>able.  People I could barely remember remembered me.  Some of my former
>classmates looked just like they did years ago.  In checking out past flames
>and looking at them now did I ever feel lucky that I didn't pursue it further
>way back when.  It's an experience you'll never forget.  We even got a little
>booklet that had an update on our former classmates, where they are now, what
>they are doing and their current addresses.  It was fun to read about the
>people who were voted "Most Likely To Succeed".  The class nerd isn't such a
>nerd anymore, far from it.  GO SPUD GO!!!  You'll never regret it.
>
>A memory inflicted Quince

Gotta agree with you Quince, everything you said here was
completely true.  I went to my 10 year reunion a couple years ago
and it was great.  The hunks from school were either bald, fat or
both!  The big nerdy, geeks were quite handsome fellas.  Many of
the girls were the opposite of what they were in school
(fat/thin).  Some actually went on to do great things, some
turned into total duds.  We also got a booklet that included
bio's that we sent in.  There were the usual contests: who
traveled the furthest, who had most kids, who sent in info first,
married longest.  My hubby's only complaint was that I spent my
time talking to the people I always talk to.  But heh if you
can't talk about people in front of them, when can you?

Go Spud, Go!
Ruth.
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From: van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson)
Subject: Re: AMC: Haley's no saint, now!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:22:40 GMT

In article <harris.717531276@drvax3>, harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris) writes:
> Well, I've gotta stick in my 2 cents worth now! Excuse me a moment while
> I step into my asbestos jumpsuit. (pull, squirm,zippppppp!) Now, here
> goes:
> A lot of y'all seem to feel that this mess with Haley is all Brian's
> and/or Dixie's fault. There seems to be a few things that have been
> forgotten. First of all, Haley dumped Brian, not vice versa. He tried to
> get her back but she was having none of it. When did she decide she
> wanted Brian back? When she heard he was seeing someone else. God forbid
> he could live without her! The she starts manipulating circumstances to
> be near Brian. Finally she tells he flat out she wants him back. He did
> not say "yes, I'm coming back to you." He said he had to think about it.
> It is not his fault that Haley decided that he couldn't live without her
> & jumped the gun. Granted, Dixie was kind of a hard blow. But Dixie did
> try to keep Haley from discussing her lovelife with her, and pushy Haley
> just kept barrelling on. Why didn't Dixie say something to her up front?
> Well, first of all, she didn't want to hurt Haley. Secondly, it was not
> really Dixie's place to have to tell Haley anything. It was an awkward
> situation, and I don't know if I could have done better with Haley being
> as pushy & persitent as she was.
>    Even if you want Haley & Brian together, I think you have to admit
> Haley was largely at fault. As for her falling off the wagon, that is
> her *own* responsiblity, no matter what happens to her. You can't blame
> others for your actions, you can *always* make a different choice.
> Really shitty things happen to alot of people who don't make bad
> choices. Haley's actions are her own choice, no matter how sorry we feel
> for her.
> 
> Whew! Sorry this is so long...I'll take off the suit later (like in a
> week or so :) ).
> 
> ........posted for Beverly H. (please don't be too hard on her)
> --
> Mitch Harris                           |  New Technology Inc.
> (205)-544-2846                         |  700 Boulevard South, #401
> drvax3!harris@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov    |  Huntsville, AL  35802
> 

Ditto ditto ditto!!  I
don't like Dixie but I think that Haley' actions pretty much take the blame
off Dixie for this mess.  (Pretty much, not completely!)
Val
From: cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: OLTL: Update Monday 9-28
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:17:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <BvI30o.ADG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, slaury@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (S
usan Laury) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.144817.2010@cs.yale.edu> fred@econ.yale.edu (Frederique V
ernhes) writes:
>This just occurred to me: what about Sloan and Renee getting together?
>I could see that working. Other than his obsession with Vicky, I
>like the new-and-improved Sloan, and I've always really liked
>Renee.
>
>I don't see why Vicky has all these men pining after her. How many
>middle-aged married women have every new man in town falling in
>love with her? Please -- no flames: I'm not saying that she isn't
>attractive because of the middle aged part, but she *is* married
>as well. Renee is attractive, loving, intelligent, etc. and --
>*single*!
>
>Sus.
>--
 My guess is that Sloane will continue his pursuit of Vicky since she has
 shown that she has difficulty controlling her feelings for him.  A broken
 Buchanan marriage might just give Clint Richie the opportunity he is looking
 for to leave the show.  There have been rumors for a long time that he is
 leaving; in fact, last fall he said on Joan Rivers show that he was
 definitely leaving in Jan. '92 .  Maybe he'll be leaving a year later than he
 anticipated.  Also, I can't see them pairing Renee off with anyone at the
 moment.  I expect Asa to try to win Renee back after his marriage to Blair
 ends.  Renee's initial rejection of Asa's attention would be stronger if there
 weren't another man for Asa to blame.  Oh well, that's just MHO.

 --Cheryl