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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Splitting a user disk
Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:28:57 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1gks0bINNk9c@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms) writes:
>You could also redefine it in process or job table in LOGIN.COM or SYLOGIN.COM,
>but these are not executed in all cases.

I beg to differ.  If the system logical SYS$SYLOGIN is defined, then the job
*WILL* execute SYS$SYLOGIN.  Period.  No way around it.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Please include the traceback dump in problem descriptions!
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:59:26 PST
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In a previous article, someone wrote: 
> [...]
> I was getting an evil stack dump, so I decided to compile
> and link it in debug mode and run things in the debugger. When it got to the
> sys$crmpsc call it would crash out with:
> 
> %DEBUG-E-INTERR, internal debugger error in DBGGSWATCH\unable to read mapping
> arguments - 2
> [...]

In the future, would anyone who is posting problems like this, PLEASE include
the stack dump (aka traceback dump), and/or other any other error message(s), 
in your article!!! 

Believe it or not, that stuff IS useful for troubleshooting.  

(It turns out that the paritcular question quoted above WAS solvable without 
the original traceback dump, but that isn't always the case.)

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
drivers, internals, networks, applications, and training for VMS and Windows-NT
uucp 'g' protocol guru and release coordinator, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) W.G., and 
Chair, Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VMS Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Security problem for gurus.
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:44:33 GMT

 In article <B1FB21FFA27F004AEF@imimnvx.irfmn.mnegri.it>, PSI%ITAPAC.22800002::PITCLS::ADRIANO@imimnvx.irfmn.mnegri.it (Adriano Santoni) writes:
>
>	Hi netters!
>
>	I need to avoid certain people to scan a directory of mine. This
>	could seem a very trivial issue, if it was not for the following:
>
>	o  Some users of mine have (and need to retain) *ALL* privileges
>
>	o  I don't want to clear the DIRECTORY file characteristic bit
>
>	o  I don't want to do encrypting or any other tricky thing
>
>	o  I want to be able to access my directory whenever I need to
>
>	In other words: do you know of a feasible method of protecting
>	private areas without resorting to the traditional & documented
>	practics? Impossible? That's what I fear! Sigh!
>

Have you heard of ACLs (Access Control Lists) ? An access control list can
protect directories as well as files.

   John Rice        K9IJ     |  "Did I say that ?" I must have, but It was
                             |   MY opinion only, no one else's...Especially
                             |   Not my Employer's....
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com     |   Purveyor of Miracles,Magic and Sleight-of-hand
From: savolainen_p@kulminator.salcom.fi (Pekka Savolainen, Salcom Finland)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to prevent login.com from running.
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:31:32 +0200
Reply-To: Pekka.Savolainen@Salcom.Fi
Organization: Salcom Finland, Jyvaskyla Finland

In article <BzC01F.LG3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, hpassaue@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Billy Passauer) writes:
> Speaking of preventing login.com from running.  A while back a saw a
> /qualifier that one could type in after their username that would
> prevent this.  But I can't remember for the life of me what it is.
> Anyone have any ideas?  Thanks in advance.
> 

Username: YOUR_NAME/NOCOMMAND
Password: 

	Welcome .....

See $ HELP LOGIN for more qualifiers

Pekka
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From: ROBINSONP@AdminA.RFERL.ORG ("Peter Robinson, ext 3721")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: (none)
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:04:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

SUB INFO-VAX
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Any comment on output device....
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:32:18 -0600
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <B0606B59FEDF000284@EGFRCUVX>, SABRY@SHEBIN.EG wrote:
> 
> Hello ALL......
> please, To you out from device type RF71....ok
> Disk R7TMEB$DIA0:, device type RF71, is online, mounted, file-oriented device,
>     shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled.
[trivial show dev omitted]

> Please, If you have any comments about this data.
> I'll be happy to know it......
> also,Our system MICROVAX 3400 with 12.00MB,VMS V5.2-1...ok
> with all best wishes.....................
> E-mail:sabry@shebin.eg

Are you by any chance trying to pirate VMS?  Don't you have
a manual?
From: jacobson@holland.crd.ge.com (Steven J. Jacobson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Need ethernet address from C on Vaxstations
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:51:07 GMT
Reply-To: jacobson@holland.crd.ge.com (Steven J. Jacobson)
Organization: GE Corporate Research and Development


I need a C program which will enable me to obtain the ethernet address
of a VaxStation 3100/4000 running VMS 5.4 and DECnet. Any assistance would
be greatly appreciated.


Steve Jacobson "jacobson@crd.ge.com"
GE Corporate Research and Development
518-387-6950
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: email over port 25 ??
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:45:14 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Dec14.141006.320@csghsg5a.bitnet>, 92636828s@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:
=How is it possible to send email directly over port 25 of a machines
=node, that means when you have a telnet connection like this:
=
=			telnet alpha.ufo.ch 25
=
=I always get the connection but after 2 seconds and some messages sent
=from the machine (TCP-SLAVE etc.) the connection is closed again
=abruptly.
=
=		Any kind of help is appreciated.

See RFC822.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: openVMS or UNIX.
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:13:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Dec16.084621.25138@unix.brighton.ac.uk>, jmd6@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Morgoth.) writes...
# 
#I am currently doing some research for a disertation for the final
#year of my degree in computer science. I have chosen to do the
#research on unix and its standadisation.

	Good luck.  The wide variety of Unix kernels based on
	the original two is hardly what standards people call
	standards.

#My research has uncovered the fast growing standard of POSIX,

	You need to expand your research since POSIX is not
	at all a fast growing standard but a set of standards
	and recmomendations.

#and DECs adoption of this standard for open VMS.

	Again, this is not "a" standard but a collection of
	standard-like stuff.  DEC has not adopted it for "open"
	VMS but they are making all VMS versions compliant with
	parts of POSIX recommendations.

#I'm there fore intrested in some DEC users optinions of POSIX and 
#Operating System Standadisation.

	I think if this is your dissertation for a degree then
	perhaps you should do research as opposed to surveying
	a usenet group.  Opinions are just like dirty socks.  
	Everybody has a couple, and the other guy' always stinks.

#Has POSIX compatibility on proprietry systems (eg OPEN VMS) killed
#unix?

	See answers above.  This question is a nonreference.

#Why has DEC chosed to have open VMS, Windows NT and OSF/1 running on
#its new alpha systems?

	Because that's what users use, and it will sell the
	hardware and they will profit.

#Is it due to the uncertanty of which operating system might succeed in
#the marcket?

	No, it's because the more they offer the more they sell.
	If they could get Amiga software running on it in less
	than a year you can bet your boots that would be there
	too.  Same for Apple II etc...

#Are Open propriatry operating systems goin to become the future of computing?
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	In addition to doing research, you should do a definition
	check.  Open and proprietary are contradictory terms.

#Thanks for you help
#Jon Durrant 

	Ehud

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From: system@PIB1.PHYSIK.UNI-BONN.DE (Peter Kobe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: WHat is the trick with $ DIR /EXCLUDE   ?
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:41:39 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:59:05 MEZ


    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu writes

>$ DIR [*...]/siz/date/excl=([*...]*.exe,[*...]*.c) /out=myfile.txt

>But it doesnt work   i.e.  there are EXE  in the output.
    
I can't confirm that but a more than 10 years old SPR is:

dir *.*;*/exclude=(*.*;0) gives no file. I just want to know, which files
will be purged.

Peter
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From: TKENNETT@BENTLEY.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How do you RUN a program with parameters?
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:39:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>From:
> newsflash.concordia.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca!access.usask.ca!sue!meena.cc.ureg
   ina.ca!larsen@UUNET.UU.NET
>Subject: How do you RUN a program with parameters?
>
>The subject header says it all.  How do you send parameters to a program
>you are RUNning?
>
>Bryan

One way that I use is the following:

$ Run Myprog.exe
$ Deck
param 1
param 2
param 3
$ Eod

Give it a try, this might be what you are looking for :-)
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From: michael@chpc.utexas.edu (Michael Lemke)
Subject: Re: converting VMS MAIL folder to elm
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:42:22 GMT

In article <1ghv58INNcp2@ope001.iao.ford.com> "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com> writes:
>Followups redirected to comp.os.vms.
>
>In article <1992Dec13.202918.798@chpc.utexas.edu>
>michael@chpc.utexas.edu (Michael Lemke) writes:
>
>:Does someone has the opposite?  Unix to VMSmail?
>
>I imagine a "straight" conversion would be difficult -- how would one
>handle things like "Reply-To:" headers?  What should the Unix-VMS
>header munger do?
>

I would leave it alone.  Just a straight copy of From:, To:, Subject:,
and Date:.  I thought something along the lines of using the old format 
you'd get with EXTRACT/MAIL.  I suppose you could just write a little 
awk script for this.  Shouldn't be hard.  I am just too lazy to do it 
myself right now so I thought maybe someone else has done so already.  
Should I do it myself I'll post it.

Michael
-- 
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Astronomy, UT Austin, Texas
(michael@io.as.utexas.edu or UTSPAN::UTADNX::IO::MICHAEL [SPAN])
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: BINDING System disk to another disk
From: peter@vulcan.mentec.ie
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:51:12 GMT
Organization: Mentec Computer Systems, Dublin, Ireland
Nntp-Posting-User: declan

I've a Vaxstation 3100 with 3 x 100 Mb disks; 1 for a system disk, 1 user disk
& 1 disk which I intend to use for products. 

Now, the problem arises because Decwrite & similar products need to be installed
on the system disk. However, by the time VMS and DecWindows are on the system
disk then there's not much room left for anything else.

In order to overcome this problem I decided to use MOUNT/BIND to join the
system disk and the product disk together, so that VMS sees them as one volume.

Great, I thought; but wait a minute, how do I dismount the system disk so that
I can MOUNT it using BIND ?? And that's the problem, I need some mechanism to
be able to mount the system disk so that I can bind it.

Alternatively, can anyone suggest any other methods of achieving what I want?

Reply by Email if possible, as I don't read this group too often.

Thanks, Peter


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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to make only one file readable?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 03:10:34 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <BRIAN.92Dec16194601@dsm.dsm.fordham.edu>, brian@dsm.fordham.edu (Brian Downing) writes:
>Three, (This is a big one now) Automatic inclusion of my .signature file (This
>cannot be done from VMS MAIL with running either spawning a subprocess via
>MAIL$EDIT pointing to a command file or by defining a custom TPU section can
>it?)

Yes, it can.  You simply need to put something like:

	PROCEDURE SIGNATURE
		LOCAL OUTFILE, OLDPOS;

		OUTFILE := GET_INFO(COMMAND_LINE, "OUTPUT_FILE");
		IF (SUBSTR(OUTFILE, 1, 17) = "SYS$SCRATCH:MAIL_") AND
			(SUBSTR(OUTFILE, 26, 9) = "_SEND.TMP") AND
			(LENGTH(OUTFILE) = 34) THEN
			POSITION(BUFFER_END);
			READ_FILE("SYS$LOGIN:.SIGNATURE");
			POSITION(OLDPOS);
		ENDIF;
	ENDPROCEDURE;

	SIGNATURE

in your TPU$COMMAND file.  Doing this will cause the file SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.
to be included when and only when the output file name from the command line is
of the form SYS$SCRATCH:MAIL_xxxxxxxx_SEND.TMP.  Unless you're in the habit of
creating files with that name via TPU other than when using MAIL, it shouldn't
interfere with any other editing you might do.  You can, of course, compile the
procedure and make that a part of any customized section file you might already
be using.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: FAQ,USERID
Date: 19 Dec 1992 12:38:51 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Dec18.082720.18551@sarah.albany.edu>, cl5413@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
>Is there an ftp site where I can get the FAQs for this news group?
>How can the userid be temporarily changed, without systems access? (I don't
>want to do anything evil, I just want to personalise my ID for the BBS we have
>here.)

By any reasonable interpretation of "change the userid," it can't be done
without CMKRNL priv (OK, OK, I know you can CMEXEC then CMKRNL, if you've got
CMEXEC priv, but let's keep it simple, OK?).

You can change the personal name that's associated with mail from you by using
the SET PERSONAL command within MAIL.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: STUKING@EKU.BITNET ("Cogito Ergo Sum.....Cogito")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Item Codes Missing??
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:42:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


   I noticed in the system service routines manual that two item codes were not
found on the system here.  We're running on a VAX 6000-610, VMS v5.5.  In the
manual, which is also for v5.5, has JPI$_LAST_LOGIN_I and JPI$_LAST_LOGIN_N
mentioned.  However, I did not find them in any of the header files for C or
the Pascal source code files.  What confuses me more is that you can get the
last interactive and non-interactive logins from DCL with F$GETJPI.  Were these
item codes accidentally left out?  Or is there something else to it?  Thanks.

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From: LABELLES@ZENO.MSCD.EDU (Stephen LaBelle - MSCD)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Looking for advice on tracking down a system crash
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:07:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> Earle Ake  Internet: <ake@dayton.saic.com>  writes:
>
>
>        I have a system running VMS 5.4.  We have batch jobs that run one
> process per job that control communications cards.  The software was recently
> upgraded from VMS 4.7 to 5.4.  We have seen a few ramdom non-reproducible
> system crashes recently.  Every system crash is due to the same executable.
> Each bugcheck is a Machine check while in kernal mode.  I am looking for
> advice on how to track this down.  I have saved the system dump files but
> not knowing how to read them puts me at a disadvantage.  I have suggested
> adding a set process/dump before the executable is run so that is in place
> now but we have not had a crash yet.
> 
>         Using debug is out of the question since the device the executable
> controls is realtime.  Would compiling with debug but not linking with debug
> also help?  I am looking for any help I can get since I am experienced at
> debugging but not real-time devices or those that cause system crashes!

Earle,

You have left out a few details, but I would think about recompiling and 
relinking these executables under the new version of VMS 5.4. Thats a 
pretty big jump 4.7 to 5.4. VMS version 5, is a major upgrade over version 4.
Unless of course the recompiling was done as part of the upgrade process.

It is strongly suggested that applications be recompiled and relinked as
part of a major operating system upgrade. You indicate the problems started
after the recent upgrade, I would start there.

Your DEC support folks should be able to analyze your crash dumps and advise
as well. 

						Good Luck,

						Steve


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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: HELP!!! Security problem for gurus.
From: erkamp@janus (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:13:49 MDT
Reply-To: erkamp@janus
Distribution: world
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <B1FB21FFA27F004AEF@imimnvx.irfmn.mnegri.it>, PSI%ITAPAC.22800002::PITCLS::ADRIANO@imimnvx.irfmn.mnegri.it (Adriano Santoni) writes:
>
>	Hi netters!
>
>	I need to avoid certain people to scan a directory of mine. This
>	could seem a very trivial issue, if it was not for the following:
>
>	o  Some users of mine have (and need to retain) *ALL* privileges
>
>	o  I don't want to clear the DIRECTORY file characteristic bit
>
>	o  I don't want to do encrypting or any other tricky thing
>
>	o  I want to be able to access my directory whenever I need to
>
>	In other words: do you know of a feasible method of protecting
>	private areas without resorting to the traditional & documented
>	practics? Impossible? That's what I fear! Sigh!
>

Why don't you rename it to something besides .DIR? Then rename it back to .DIR
when you wish to access it.

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms