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>From: pamiri@uci.edu (Peter Amiri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Distribution: WORLD
Subject: PR Dimensional Software announces dbTimer for 4D
Organization: Dimensional Software

September 11, 1992
Aliso Viejo, California

Dimensional Software of Aliso Viejo, California today announced an external
package for 4th Dimension the relational database development software from
ACIUS Inc. of Cupertino, California. dbTimer allows a 4th Dimension global
procedure to be placed into the background and set to run at a user specified
time of day or interval of time. Multiple procedures can be placed into the
background each configured to run at a different time or interval. Using this
package users could be automatically logged off a database at certain times
of day to allow database backups to be performed or procedures could be run
that make connections to other mainframe computers at preset intervals to
update the local or remote databases. This package could also be used to
access laboratory equipment at certain intervals and gather data to be
processed by the database.

The procedures placed into the background can perform any operation available
through the 4th Dimension language and are only limited by the developers
imagination. Dimensional Software also includes SimpleMail, a simple
electronic mail program implemented using 4th Dimension and dbTimer.
SimpleMail can be incorporated into existing 4th Dimension databases
royalty free.

Pricing for dbTimer has been set as outlined below. Dimensional software
will be offering an introductory price for dbTimer until November 15, 1992.

Catagory                                     Regular        Introductory
============================================================================
Single database license                     $ 25.00           $ 20.00
(allows installation of the dbTimer
package into one 4th imension database)

In-house or contract programmer license       75.00             60.00
(allows installation of the dbTimer
package into multiple databases)

Commercial Developer license                 225.00            180.00
(allows integration of dbTimer into a 
commercially available product)

Dimensional Software is dedicated to enhancing the tools available to the
4th Dimension developer community and is committed to announcing new tools
to make 4th Dimension development as easy as possible. Look for future
announcements about exciting new products which will revolutionize the way
data is entered into a 4th Dimension database.

Dimensional Software                                AppleLink: DIMSOFT
11 Headland Place                              America Online: DIMSOFT
Aliso Viejo, California 92656	                     Compuserve: 72521,1263
Voice/Fax (714) 362-8293                             Internet: pamiri@uci.edu

Dimensional Software, dbTimer, and SimpleMail are trademarks of Dimensional
Software. All other trade names referenced are the trademark or registered
trademark of their respective holder.
From: thierry@ozrout.uucp (Thierry Daigneault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: 4D Server
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:06:28 GMT
Organization: A.P.Ozrout
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi!

  Just wondering if anybody here went to the launching of the Server and 4D
3.0 last week in France? How was it? Any interesting info we should know
about?

   Thierry
   thierry@ozrout.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: Brennan.J.Murphy.53@nd.edu (Brennan Murphy)
Subject: Email and database question from an amatuer
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.databases
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:50:29 GMT

Please tell me either how to set up a Eudora like application that would
allow me to compile a large list of email addresses and then send out a
mass mailing to them all at once.  I want to be able to add addresses to
the list with ease.  I am familiar with making a nickname to represent all
of the addresses but I need database capabilities also in the program for
easy changes.  In short, I would like the best program to construct a large
mailing list of email addresses.  Maybe you could send me the address of
the guy who designed Eudora?  Any help or sense of direction would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Brennan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: mr@bernina.ethz.ch (Marc Raths)
Subject: Will a US 4D 2.3 database run on a non-US System 7 (Swiss)
Summary: Need to know whether I can run a US 4D system on an international 
         System 7 (Swiss to be specific)
Keywords: 4D, international, system
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:47:52 GMT

Since I still have trouble with the copy protection scheme 4D chose
(insert floppy each and every day, floppy fails because of adverse conditions,
4D is on every backup, virus protection software balks at modified
programs, customer very unhappy because he can't start the machine
when the floppy fails) I'd like to switch to a US 4D copy. As
far as I know these are not copy protected.
BUT will it run under an international (specifically Swiss) System 7?
Since my customer doesn't know enough English the system software has
to be localized.
And will I have to rewrite the code when porting?

Thanks in advance

Marc Raths, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology  
Baechtoldstrasse 5           
CH-8044 Zurich, Switzerland  UUCP: mr@bernina.uucp (mcsun!chx400!bernina!mr)
Voice : +41-1-251 6824       Internet: mr@bernina.ethz.ch

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Baechtoldstrasse 5           
CH-8044 Zurich, Switzerland  UUCP: mr@bernina.uucp (mcsun!chx400!bernina!mr)
Voice : +41-1-251 6824       Internet: mr@bernina.ethz.ch
From: Fred.Puhan@p4219.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Fred Puhan)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: FileMaker Pro Question
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 00:58:09 -0500

Here's an interesting (to me) problem: I would like to take name, address, and 
telephone number fields from within a FileMaker Pro database and create
"telephone book"-style fields; i.e., given the following example:

           name:  SampleName
        address:  SampleAddress
 city,State Zip:  Anytown, XX  NNNNN
          phone:  NNN-NNNN

I need to concatenate the name and address fields, add dot-leaders, then the
telephone number to yield:

      formatted:  SampleName SampleAddress........................NNN-NNNN

The question I have is how to calculate (and then fill) the number of periods
needed to "pad" the space between the listing data and the phone number. I
have no trouble calculating the length of the formatted name/address, and even
using a "fixed-length" for the formatted listing, am still not able to dynami-
cally perform a "repeat for" function to pad the dots. Any suggestions?

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PRC Inc.                               |      best friend.
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From: rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani)
Subject: Filemaker 2.0 Upgrade
Keywords: Filemaker
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:56:09 GMT

Any ideas on when previous owners will get their upgrade packages?

Rajiv
From: khj@cs.appstate.edu (Kenneth H. Jacker)
Subject: Re: Published 'FileMaker Pro 2.0' Reviews?
Organization: Appalachian State University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:24:39 GMT

khj@cs.appstate.edu (Kenneth H. Jacker) writes:

>I'm considering buying 'FileMaker Pro 2.0'.

>Does any issue of MacWorld, MacWeek, or other publicly available
>periodical contain a review of FMP2?

I went to the library yesterday and was able to find one brief review of
FileMaker Pro in _MacWorld_ (91 Feb).

Maybe my initial plea was too narrow ... can anyone suggest a
(comprehensive) review of any version of FileMaker (not just Pro 2.0)?

There must be some reason it is (allegedly) the best selling Mac
database program ...

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khj@cs.appstate.edu --- Kenneth H. Jacker --- Boone, NC  28608   USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: bmartin@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Brian Martin)
Subject: Re: 4th Dimension Info Requested
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 10:40:45 GMT

In article <GXYPBZN4@cc.swarthmore.edu> Glenn Stauffer <stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu> writes:
>
>Does the server function in a client/server mode?  I've been poking 
>around with MSI Access (minor pokes to date), but the promise of a 
>client/server database system seems to address many of the 4D performance 
>problems.  I have been working on the design of a 5 - 10 user system and 
>am concerned that using 4D multi-user might not offer sufficient 
>performance.  The question now is whether to develop it as an MSI app or 
>to go with the 4D server.  Of course I just got my hands on Serius with 
>the database object library...

MSI Access provides client/server functionality for 4D now.
It comes with an API toolset that allows you to create Hypercard,
Pascal and C clients. You can even create a Windows client.

Wait for the 4D Server. It is much faster than MSI Access/4D client server.
It is also much easier to implement and support. 4D Server APIs will support
Hypercard and Windows-based clients.

Best regards,

    Brian K. Martin, M.D.
    Martin Information Systems, Ltd.
    1103 9th Avenue, Suite 203
    Honolulu, Hawai`i 96816-2403 USA
    Voice (808) 733-2003
    Fax (808) 733-2011

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From: 21602MR@MSU (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Wall Street Journal->> Apple Server early 93
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:40:53 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

FYI --  The Wall Street Journal reported on tuesday, Sept 8, that
Apple will release a server in early 1993!
Jeez  Apple, better late than never EH??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: bmartin@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Brian Martin)
Subject: Re: 4th Dimenision Information
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:12:34 GMT

In article <AediYNG00iUxM_Yfhz@andrew.cmu.edu> dt1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Tsai) writes:
>Hello,
>    I'm sorry if this is a FAQ [They just purged this BBoard], but does
>anyone have the specs for 4D 3.0 ???  In particular, I need to know
>about the differences between 4D 3.0 and it's older version 2.0.  Are
>they compatible?
>
>Thanks,
>---
>David Tsai
>Carnegie Mellon University

David,

4D 3.0 will run 4D 2.x databases with minimal conversion effort. The major
problems occur with externals that may not be compatible with 4D 3.0.

However, 4D 3.0 is a completely different animal. It has its own
multi-tasking kernels--you can have multiple asynchronous
processes running, and multiple active windows open.

Best regards,

    Brian K. Martin, M.D.
    Martin Information Systems, Ltd.
    1103 9th Avenue, Suite 203
    Honolulu, Hawai`i 96816-2403 USA
    Voice (808) 733-2003
    Fax (808) 733-2011

CompuServe: 76535,250
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: why upgrade to FileMaker Pro 2.0?
Keywords: filemaker,upgrade
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:45:13 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

hal@cs.cornell.edu (Hal Perkins) writes:

>I received the upgrade notice for FileMaker Pro 2.0 and am trying to
>decide if it's worth getting the new version.  It seems that the main
>advantage to version 2.0 is it runs on IBM PC-compatible boxes as well
>as macs and one can share data across mixed networks.  Since I'm only
>using FileMaker on an isolated mac, what advantage would there be in
>upgrading?

    The fact that there is no file conversion needed to work in Windown
is irrelevant to upgrading to FM Pro 2.0. If you ask me the single best
reason to upgrade is to get the new Script Editor. It's amazing. There
is also a lot more support for System 7, and there is also no support
for Quicktime. And that is just the tip of the new capabilities.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
	    "Egads! These look like a women's fingerprints"
						   -- Durlock Holmes
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: bronson@latech.edu (Patrick K. Bronson)
Subject: Re: Dimensions / 4D books???
Summary: so far so good
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:30:29 GMT

In article <craigh.715983496@cserver> craigh@cserver.plexus.com (Craig Heilman) writes:
>Has anyone subscribed to or used "Dimensions - The Journal of the
>4th Dimension Environment" quarterly (Blackledge Publishing) or the
>"Programming with 4th Dimension" books by Mark Yelich?  Are they
>worthwhile (at $69 a year for the journal & $54.95 for the two volumes)?
>What about the source code 3-disk set ($49.95)?  Any opinions welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>	Craig
>--
>*                           * "I just found out that the brain is like a   *
>* Craig A. Heilman          * computer.  If that's true, then there really *
>* craigh@cserver.plexus.com * aren't any stupid people.  Just people       *
>*                           * running DOS." - VH1's Stand Up Spotlight     *

We subscribe to the Dimensions magazine where I work and it is quite good so 
far.  With the new low price I'm considering subscribing for myself now.  
The first issue had some errors and a few examples of poorly written code
but since then the quality has been great.  Even though I write what I feel to
be pretty decent databases I still find a lot of good ideas and information
in the magazine.  They have gotten a bit behind on the printing schedule but 
they did send out notices letting everyone know why the delay was being caused.

We ordered the books but haven't had them come in yet.  I  don't know that 
they will have much in store for someone who allready had a good grip and
several years of 4D programing, but it's worth a look.  If nothing else we
will have something to show our newer programers when we start training them.


-- 
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Pat Bronson (bronson@engr.latech.edu)
  "Are you going to come quietly or do I have to use earplugs?"
                                                    ---- From The Goon Show
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: why upgrade to FileMaker Pro 2.0?
X-Xxdate: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19: 38:58 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:26:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.154513.27951@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Hades,
hades@coos.dartmouth.edu writes:
>is irrelevant to upgrading to FM Pro 2.0. If you ask me the single best
>reason to upgrade is to get the new Script Editor. It's amazing. There
>is also a lot more support for System 7, and there is also no support

Has anyone seen the Script Editor yet? Are we talking more functional 
macros now or is this still fairly limited.

One thing I'd like to see is the ability for scripts to execute the same 
commands that buttons can drive. Also, I'd like to pass some parameters 
into scripts/commands, bypassing the user in some cases.

A primary need/use for this is a single button that, when clicked on, 
will move the cursor to a field and perform a relookup with no dialog box 
for confirmation. Currently, I have to manually select the involved 
field, perform the relookup and confirm the relookup in (xxx) records.
This 
is a pain in the xxx!

Anyway, is the new Script Editor worth looking at? How about Lookups - 
are they more flexible? Any changes to Summary or Calculation fields?

Looking forward to the new release regardless,

- John

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From: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Omnis error
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:20:35 GMT
Reply-To: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, SJD9@psuvm.psu.edu () says:

>
>Blyth  tech support has been no help so far.
>
>Steve
>

That does not surprise me !!

the tech support there is so bad , that they now refuse to return my calls
anymore.  it would have been ok if they just admit to me they don't know
anything about omnis, but what pi__es me is they still PRETEND to be omnis
expert! (them not knowing omnis may be an overstatement, it should have
been they don't know anything about computers).

I think blyth is the company with the worst business ethics that I have
dealt with.
From: craig@hyperion.loni.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: 4D serial port help requested
Keywords: 4D serial help
Date: 13 Sep 92 01:01:08 GMT
Distribution: usa


	The title pretty much says it: I'm trying to implement a simple
 modem dial command procedure, and cannot get the modem to respond.
the description of the SET CHANNEL Command tells me that the following
code should work (at least, that is how it looks to me) COuld someone 
critique this ? All I  want to to is dial my creaky old 1200 baud modem,
although it would be nice to get the modem's responses to.I am using a
Hayes compatible modem.

` function: dial_modem
` synopsis: dial string passed in
$channel:=1` modem port
$channel:=$channel+20` xon/off->20 (dtr=30)
$setup:=94` speed = 1200->94 (2400->46;96->10)
$setup:=$setup+3072` 8 bits (7->1024)
$setup:=$setup+16384` 1 stop bit(1.5->-32768;2->-16384)
$setup:=$setup+0` no parity(od->4096,even->12288)
` or, example says 8 bits, no parity, 1 stop bit at 1200 = 27742
`$setup:=27742
SET CHANNEL($channel;$setup)
$number:=$1` put code to strip out junk from number here
SEND PACKET("ATDT"+$number)


  thanks for your comments & suggestions,

	Craig Schwartz
	craig@hyperion.loni.ucla.edu
From: ejw1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Eric Weidl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
Subject: Re: Exporting from Filemaker
Keywords: Export, Menu, Filemaker Pro
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:27:51 GMT
Reply-To: ejw1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Academic and Public Computing

In article <hoyle.715810541@sfu.ca> hoyle@beaufort.sfu.ca (Michelle Hoyle) writes:
>I use Filemaker Pro to store the names, addresses, and reviewer
>information for an academic Journal.  Recently I ran into a problem
>of trying to export any of the information into a text file.  Filemaker
>only allows me to select comma delimited text.  If you click on the
>menu box to choose a different type, nothing happens.  I consulted
>the manual, but I could not find any particular reason why this
>would happen or how to fix it.  Does anyone else have any ideas?

There is no explanation in the manual because it is a bug.  There seems to 
be some interference between an extension and FileMaker that I've never 
been able to track down.

You can get the pop-up menu to work, if you click on it immediately after 
the dialog box opens.  As soon as you select the Export item from the File 
menu, move the pointer to the approximate position where the menu will 
appear when the dialog opens and click the mouse button as soon as it does. 
You need to click on it within a second after it appears for it to work.

Since the problem seems to be a conflict between an extension and FileMaker
you could try finding the problematic extension and removing it.  Also,
make sure you have the latest version of FileMaker (2.0v2, I think.)

>Michelle

Eric


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               Eric Weidl    e-weidl@uchicago.edu
      University of Chicago -- Academic and Public Computing
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Panorama Info Wanted
X-Xxdate: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20: 07:04 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:54:30 GMT

Well, I can't seem to find my previous posting, so it may be that my news 
server died...

Anyway, I am interested on any opinions on Panorama II. I am especially 
interested in the scripting and lookup features.

Has anyone had experience with this? What problems have you encountered? 
How does Panorama II compare to FileMaker Pro? (FileMaker Pro 2.0, if 
you've seen it...) Key areas are power of macros and scripts, 
pseudo-relational capabilities through lookups, ease of use - especially 
with layout design, multi-user database functionality, and company 
tech/customer support.

Thanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.databases
From: michaelh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Mike Hennahane)
Subject: Re: 4D serial port help requested
Keywords: 4D serial help
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Sep 92 21:05:46 GMT

craig@hyperion.loni.ucla.edu writes:

[trying to get modem to dial from 4d...]

>$number:=$1` put code to strip out junk from number here
>SEND PACKET("ATDT"+$number)

you need to append a carriage return to the end of your "ATDT" packet
to make the modem dial. you might also think about having the modem
turn off after you pick up the phone so that it doesn't keep the phone
off the hook after you hang up.

--mike
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