From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Subject: Re: To all you weenies....
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:37:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.065756.10368@unlinfo.unl.edu> misc2@cse.unl.edu () writes:
>
>zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>
>>>In article <1992Apr7.000947.10790@husc3.harvard.edu> tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Apr6.144124.17239@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>	To all you people who are taken in by the propaganda of
>>>>>certain Western countries regarding our logging, my reply to you is:
>
>>>>>go fuck yourself.  Read what our Prime Minister said regarding our
>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>bertaubatlah sebelum kamu disembahyangkan.......Zam
>
>>>>>controlled logging, and maybe, you will understand once and for all,
>>>>>why the whole issue has been blown out of proportion to make us
>>>>>accountable for what is essentially the developed nations' mistakes.
>>>>>Open your mind, and try seeing how some developed nations are using
>>>>>the logging issue to hide the lack of steps taken by their government
>>>>>to fight global warming.  Your ignorance and willingness to trust some
>>>>>foreign governments make me sick!!  If I were you, I would take all
>>>>>the precautionary steps not to reproduce because your children will
>>>>>turn out to be just like you -- unfaithful, and easily taken in by the
>>>>>propaganda of other governments.
>>>>>
>>>>>	Hopefully, the government will continue to log at the present
>>>>>rate, or increase it to show to the world that we are not affected by
>>>>>their propaganda or their pressures...
>>>>>
>>>>>===------ 
>>>>>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>>>>>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>>>>>promised to take our land and they took it.
>>>>>                                                        Red Cloud
>>>>
>>>>It is your freedom to express what you think. But your article makes me sick.
>>>>I think it is time for you to treat your fellow Malaysian as mature aldult.
>>>>Saudara NorAazizam, We can judge what is right from wrong.
>>>			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>$	Of course you can, comrade Loh!  You and your ilks live by the
>>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>>>premise that everything that the Malaysian government does is wrong.
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>You know why?  Because you are born with a hypocrite gen, and there is
>>>no way anyone can do that can change your attitude towards the
>>>government.  Why don't you all do us a favor and migrate to Hong Kong,
>>>because that is probably what you have been aiming for all your time.
>>>Malaysia will be better off with people whose loyalty is with Malaysia
>>>and not with other states like Singapore, RPC, Taiwan or Hong Kong.
>
>>>>At least, we are trying to look at the problems and try our very best
>>>>to solve it. Anybody who has stayed in Malaysia and know the logging
>>>>industry will tell you that we do not need the western or Malaysia
>>>>propanganda to know the truth.
>
>>>	And another informed bloke just told me that we have to cut
>>>down or stop logging to save the ozone layer.  What is next?  Are you
>>>going to tell me that acid rain will no longer be the issue if we stop
>>>cutting trees down?
>
>>>>I think that people who are responsible and dare to say what is wrong
>>>>should produce more because they make the world a better place to
>>>>live. 
>
>>>	This criterion should rule you and your ilks out
>>>automatically...
>
>>>===------ 
>>>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>>>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>>>promised to take our land and they took it.
>>>                                                        Red Cloud
>

>Grow up boy, lets have some mature discussions.  No one is criticizing
>the government nor wants our beloved country to be undermined by
>others,

	You are in the minority, bud.  Others have shown in this
newsgroup that they were taken in by the propaganda from other
governments without knowing the real causes of their fight.  A bloke
just told me that if we stop cutting our rain-forest, the ozone-layer
might get better.  Huh??  


>by other contributers.  I guess what we are trying to conclude here is
>that the government should proceed with the logging process but we
>must also take into account the process of replanting the trees in
>order to make more MEGA BUCKS in the future, given that trees are just
>another product of mother nature.

	You are right.  The Malaysian government is doing the
replanting as well.

>What you fail to understand is that of your misinterpretation of the
>points cited by others.  I guess you are just borned to be anti "other
>races", what is your problem?  I would like to hear if you have
>personally encountered any mistreatment by the other races in M'sia.

	Discrimination in businesses is a time-honored tradition with
the Chinese.  Does not take a genius to figure this one out...

>We supported the government all the way in the development and
>progression of our beloved country until what it is today, given the
>fact that we are still being called a SECOND citizen by 'budak kecil'
>who wants to 'main politik' on the netnews.

	I am not playing any politics here.  I am just telling these
people that they are wrong in criticizing the government WRT our rain
forest.  We do not have the luxury to stop logging because we need
every bit of money that comes our way.  


>Felt so sorry for you and also for my country, M'sia, because you do
>not even have your own idea in figuring out what is good and what is
>bad.  What you know is just what Dr. Mahathir says or whoever your
>favorite politicians says.  It has been in your mind that they are
>correct in everything that they do, without being able to analyse the
>pro and cons of it.

	I have expressed my disapproval of the Federal Government's
actions WRT the Sultan of Kelantan.  So, it is wrong to say that I
agree with every single action committed by the Malaysian government.
When I see something wrong, I will not hesitate to criticize it.

>I guess if Dr.Mahathir says "Do your mama for me", you will
>definitely agree with him.

	Nope, it is against the Islamic Law and I would never do such
a thing.  But knowing that you Chinese will do anything for the money,
will you do your father, mom, sisters and brothers if someone offers
enough money?  I bet you would...

>I guess that is enough flame from me today....wah...lega rasanya...
>yang benar, bapa anakanda. 

	Hey, a fag can't be my father, okay?

>p/s.  Sorry for those who felt offended by some of the
>vulgarity in this  posting, but I would certainly be glad to treat
>such a bastard with  the equal treatment that he had provide to us.

	The pleasure is all mine, you insignificant little twit!!

===------ 
NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud
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