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From: Sandor_Scari@ms.maus.de (Sandor Scari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: 68030 MMU Info
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:07:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

c>        2. What is the function of the Lower/Upper Limit information in long
c>           page descriptors?
c>   ....
c>        4. Can you use the Function Codes as part of your table breakdown on
c>           a 68040?

If You think about using the '040, forget long page descriptors!  The '040 PMMU
table strucures are a limited subset of the '030 structures.  The different
PMMU  control registers are incompatible: different bits on the same location,
same bits on different locations!
S\'andor
From: rcbapg@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Paul Gruijters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: 68030 instruction set info needed. ftp sites?
Keywords: 68030, instruction set, ftp sites
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:53:33 GMT
Reply-To: rcbapg@urc.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands

Hello netters,

I am searching for an ascii-text describing the 68030 instruction set.
Is there an anonymous ftp-site, something like motorola.stuff ?

Please reply by email, since I don't read this newsgroup regularly.

Paul Gruijters

rcbapg@urc.tue.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: ted@telematics.com (Ted Goldblatt)
Subject: Documentation (Was: Re: 68030 mmu info wanted)
Keywords: 68030 mmu
Organization: Telematics Intl., Inc.; Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:59:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.095440.3786@jet.uk> rmal@jet.uk (Richard Lucock) writes:
>Hi,
>	I am looking for info on using the mmu of a 68030. Can
>anyone point me at any FTPable documentation on this ?
>

I see many variants of this request in this group.   The "documentation"
on these various parts and features is the associated Moto User Manuals
and data sheets.  While I'm sure they cost money in theory, in practice
if you can convince your Moto salesdroid that there is any chance you
will use a part in (even small) quantity, you can get these for free 
(at least, that's been my experience).

For more specific questions, there may be App Notes, there's (also
in theory :-)) Moto App Engineers, and there's this group to ask
(I know that at least a few Moto people read it - I've had some
questions answered, thanks guys!)

The original question (and the ones like it) tend not to be really
detailed questions, but the sort that are answered by the formal
documentation (this 1 I know is, I've got the '030 User's Manual
and there's a long section on the mmu).  Are people unaware that
there _is_ real documentation, or are they trying to avoid paying
for it?  Like I said, if the latter is true, it's probably not
a concern if you're really going to use the part in question.

ted
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    Telematics Intl., Inc.   Ft. Lauderdale, FL
From: mcmahan@netcom.com (Dave Mc Mahan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: Simple, ignorant question.
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:39:00 GMT
Organization: Dave McMahan @ NetCom Services


 In a previous article, magsman@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Madeleine Schneider) writes:
>so what computers and devices use 683xx processors, and what
>is (in simple terms) the difference from the 680xx family?

As stated previously, the 68xxx family CPU types are general purpose.  They
require a fair amount of support logic in addition to the CPU for proper
operation.  They are capable of (probably) more throughput in general
classes of computation, but they cost more to implement because of the
extra glue chips required.

The 683xx family of processors is intended for embedded applications.  They
can be used as general purpose processors, but where they really shine is
when they are used in a place that has a dedicated need for a CPU (i.e.-
they aren't going to execute just any old program somebody types in) and
the designer wants to avoid having to build a 100 square inch board to do
something.  The 683xx processors were designed so that you don't need tons
of extra support chips to get going.  The 68332 was originally designed to
be placed into an automotive environment and do things like control engine
timing, transmission control, etc.   To get it running, about all you
really need is one crystal, the CPU, some pullup resistors, and a 16-bit
wide EPROM.  The chip comes with a minimum amount of RAM (2 Kbytes) on
board that allow you to place some program variables and the stack within
it.  If you want more RAM, all you have to do is add the RAM chips.
Decoding and chip-selection is supported by the CPU chip directly.  The
68332 also has lots of little extra things to make life easier.  It comes
with a periodic timer so you can track passage of time, synchronous serial
ports so you can easily communicate with things like A/D converters without
lots of extra parts or wide data busses, chip-select logic so you can
easily add extra RAM or ROM without having to build up entire DTACK
circuits, an RS-232 compatible async port that provides digital logic
signals for RS-232 connection (you supply a logic-to-RS232 level
converter), an on-board PLL so you can use a cheap 32 Khz watch crystal to
create a CPU frequency of up to 16 MHz, etc.

>maggie : magsman@cattell.psych.upenn.edu

  -dave

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					{apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!mcmahan
From: gt@prosun.first.gmd.de (Gerd Truschinski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: 68332 TPU Programming
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:29:15 GMT
Organization: GMD Berlin (FIRST)

In article <0yfm50p.mcmahan@netcom.com>, mcmahan@netcom.com (Dave Mc Mahan) writes:
|> 
|>  In a previous article, bleck@ai.mit.edu writes:
|> >
|> >Does anyone know if Motorola has any source code available for programming
|> >emulation functions for the 68332 TPU channels?  Though they have the
|> >pseudocode for all the preprogrammed functions in the manual, I'd find it
|> >much easier to see some source code.
|> 
|> Yes, the source is available by calling the Motorola Technical BBS at (512)
|> 891-3733.  This BBS is really a conglomeration of several CPU cores,
|> ranging from the 6811 to the CPU32.  There are several sections that you
|> can get info from, and one of them involves the TPU.  This BBS is in Texas.

Is there any ftp-server with the same stuff, i.e. all Motorola sources ?? 
Pleace reply to gt@first.gmd.de and i will post a summary.

|> 
|> 
|> >-Olaf
|> >Please reply to bleck@ai.mit.edu
|> 
|>    -dave
|> -- 
|> Dave McMahan                            mcmahan@netcom.com
|> 					{apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!mcmahan
     - /gT/
From: bleck@mobot.ai.mit.edu (Olaf Bleck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: 68332 TPU Programming
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: bleck@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory


Does anyone know if Motorola has any source code available for programming
emulation functions for the 68332 TPU channels?  Though they have the
pseudocode for all the preprogrammed functions in the manual, I'd find it
much easier to see some source code.

Alternately, if anyone out there has some stuff they've written, I'd
appreciate it if you'd let me have a peek at it.

Thanks in advance,

-Olaf

Please reply to bleck@ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: u882453@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Andrew King)
Subject: Re: 68030 instruction set info needed. ftp sites?
Keywords: 68030, instruction set, ftp sites
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:32:38 GMT

rcbapg@rwa.urc.tue.nl (Paul Gruijters) writes:

>Hello netters,

>I am searching for an ascii-text describing the 68030 instruction set.
>Is there an anonymous ftp-site, something like motorola.stuff ?

>Please reply by email, since I don't read this newsgroup regularly.

>Paul Gruijters

>rcbapg@urc.tue.nl

Please post results here ! I'd like to know!
From: ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: 680x0 SBCs Info wanted
Keywords: 680x0
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:21:14 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

In article <1992Jul29.204205.3090@webo.dg.com> mike@vulcan.webo.dg.com writes:
>Greetings -
> 
> Maybe this isn't "the" best place for this posting, but I
>wanted to get the input/opinions of genuine 68K programmers
>and engineers..
>  I am embarking on a personal project which will involve
>designing a few boards.  Not wanting to reinvent the wheel
>unless I HAVE to, I have been looking around for info on
>68K SBCs, specifically 68020  20 MHz and up.  What I need
>would include FD/HD controller (though SCSI would be NICE)
>DUART(s), at least 512K RAM, 128K ERPOM space, and a
>parallel bus or access to the microprocessor's bus.  As 
>this is all coming outta my pocket, I am also somewhat
>price sensitive, but most products in this description will
>probably cost me less than the time and $ to build this part
>of the project myself..
> 
>  If anyone has used or is using a system such as this and
>has liked it (or if you have some you have truly hated) I
>would appreciate hearing about it, or any other info you might
>have.  There used to be a company called Marion Systems out in
>California that had some product close to what I want, but the
>seem to have disappeared/moved/changed their name and their
>phone #.  IF there is interest, I will post a summary to this
>group.
> 
>  Many thanks in advance !
> 
> Mike Fugere
> Data General Corp.
> Westborough, MA.
>
> "Of course, my employer has absolutely nothing to do with anything I say.."

It looks like the system you are looking for is the Atari TT030.

This has :-

	68030 at 32MHz
	Four serial ports (two run from motorola chips and two from
		Zilog chips)
	VME bus
	2meg RAM (base machine)
	Both ASCI (simple SCSI-like DMA bus) and full SCSI buses

In the UK, the minimal setup (without a monitor) will set you back less than
1000 pounds.

If you want to get in touch with Atari US, I think the address is:-

	Atari (US) Corp.
	Sunnyvale
	California

Steve

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From: mef@ehsl.mitre.org (Marc E. Fiucznski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: MC68008 cross/gnu/or whatever compiler!
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:14:01 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Electronic Hardware Standards Laboratory, MITRE Corporation,
	Reston, VA.

Hi,

Thanks for your replies and suggestions.  As usual, I should have
researched a bit more before asking a 'somewhat' obvious question.  It
turns out that simply using the gnu c compiler (gcc) and setting it up
to compile 68k code will do the trick.

The only problem that I face now is that the 68k systems that they
list are somewhat tailed to the various versions of UN*X out there.

Someone told me that there exists a 'plain' 68K definition for the
gnu compiler.  Any hints?

Thanks,

Marc

ps. I pulled in gcc.1-40.  Does it already include plain 68K definition?
From: rmal@jet.uk (Richard Lucock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: 68030 mmu info wanted
Keywords: 68030 mmu
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:54:40 GMT
Organization: Joint European Torus

Hi,
	I am looking for info on using the mmu of a 68030. Can
anyone point me at any FTPable documentation on this ?

Many thanks,

Richard (rmal@jet.uk)
- Disclaimer: Please note that the above is a personal view and should not 
  be construed as an official comment from the JET project.
From: blee@plains.NoDak.edu (Blaine Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Is this a good value?
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:23:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19268
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND


I have found four systems that I was told were concurrent boxes.  
They had 68020's and were populated with 256k dram's, one had an
extra memory board and serial expansion board another had a tape backup.
None have hard drives.

I was quoted $250 for each, assuming the power supplies and boards
were in working condition, is this a good price?

How about getting unix?

Thanks for your information!

Blaine Lee
blee @ plains.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: mark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark Bamberg)
Subject: BSD compatable UNIX for MVME-167
Originator: mark@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:40:49 GMT

We're looking for companies which have a port of UNIX which runs on the MVME-167
board.  It should have Berkeley sockets.

Thanks,
Mark

Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: mike@vulcan.webo.dg.com (Mike Fugere)
Subject: 680x0 SBCs Info wanted
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:42:05 GMT
Reply-To: mike@vulcan.webo.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., ASD/NSDD
Keywords: 680x0 

Greetings -
 
 Maybe this isn't "the" best place for this posting, but I
wanted to get the input/opinions of genuine 68K programmers
and engineers..
  I am embarking on a personal project which will involve
designing a few boards.  Not wanting to reinvent the wheel
unless I HAVE to, I have been looking around for info on
68K SBCs, specifically 68020  20 MHz and up.  What I need
would include FD/HD controller (though SCSI would be NICE)
DUART(s), at least 512K RAM, 128K ERPOM space, and a
parallel bus or access to the microprocessor's bus.  As 
this is all coming outta my pocket, I am also somewhat
price sensitive, but most products in this description will
probably cost me less than the time and $ to build this part
of the project myself..
 
  If anyone has used or is using a system such as this and
has liked it (or if you have some you have truly hated) I
would appreciate hearing about it, or any other info you might
have.  There used to be a company called Marion Systems out in
California that had some product close to what I want, but the
seem to have disappeared/moved/changed their name and their
phone #.  IF there is interest, I will post a summary to this
group.
 
  Many thanks in advance !
 
 Mike Fugere
 Data General Corp.
 Westborough, MA.

 "Of course, my employer has absolutely nothing to do with anything I say.."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox
From: welch@anzus.com (Arun Welch)
Subject: AAAI reflections
Organization: Info-1100 Mailing List
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:27:39 GMT


[To start with, a disclaimer. These are my thoughts and opinions, not those
of Venue or OSU.]

The big news at the Venue booth was the demo of Medley running on DOS. Release
date, if memory serves, is 9/15, but they're looking for beta testers now.  As
usual, it's binary compatible with all the other releases of Medley. A Mac
port is due out soon too.

Symbolics was showing their new processor.

Lucid was showing XLT, their development environment. It's missing lots of
functionality that Medley users would be used to, personally I would find
it easier to use one of the emacs interfaces to tty-based lisps.

Franz bought up Procyon recently, so they were showing off their Lisp for DOS.

Harlequin was showing Transducer, which converts code for workstations to
Windows code, if I'm reading their flyer right. I didn't get a chance to
see the demo.

Ibuki recently licensed PC-Scheme from TI, and are now the folks supporting it.
IMHO, this is a good thing for Lisp in general.

On the whole, it was a much smaller show than in previous years. The weird
thing for me was that the language vendors (Lisp, Prolog) got a whole lot
more people going through than the shell folks.

...arun
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arun Welch
Anzus Consulting
welch@anzus.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox
From: cxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher Fenton)
Subject: JSL EXAMPLES
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:47:16 GMT


	Hi Kids:

	can anybody e-mail me some example of Xerox JSL for a 4050
printer that contain examples of using multiple fonts to print a
single form?  Some examples of really complex JSL might be nice, too

	Thanx in advance....



	C. H. Fenton


-- 
    cxf12          ---===<<< A I S Computer Operations >>>===---
@po.cwru.edu               Case Western Reserve University
Christopher H. Fenton     "I was bored before I even began..."
From: eudoh@ST6000.SCT.EDU (Etop Udoh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Tandy 6000HD....
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:41:56 GMT
Organization: The Internet

hi,

  I recently acquired a Tandy 6000HD computer, and it came with no
boot disks whatsoever, and the internal harddisk gives a boot error
when you power up the machine and it tries to boot off of it....
 does anyone know anything about this machine or have any boot disks
for it or even know what kind I need ????
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From: eudoh@ST6000.SCT.EDU (Etop Udoh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: ITT Xtra monitor.....
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:09:45 GMT
Organization: The Internet


hi,


   looking for information on an ITT Xtra amber/monocrome monitor...
specifically the pinouts for the power connector which is a din type
plug....
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From: jmrots@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: WATERS Control Codes
Date: 22 Jul 92 08:52:31 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

Hi there,
I need your help on a system I'm gonna use soon and I'm stuck.
I'm gonna use LabVieuw system to control my HPLC,what I need is the control
codes for the different pieces of equipment.
Waters 490 UV detector
Waters 410 RI detector
Waters 625 HPLC Pump

I don't know if I'm in the right group,and if I'm not please tell me where to
repost my message.

To all of you out there,   thanks

Jean M Rotsaert
JMROTS@BB1T.MONSANTO.COM

===============================================================================
From: johnboyd@OCDIS01.OC.AFLC.AF.MIL (John Boyd;LAHDI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
Subject: Sideways??
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:11:26 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I have an '85 vintage program called Sideways which allows you to print
output that is horizontally wider than your printer, by running it
vertically down the paper.  Well, it doesn't understand a couple of the
printers that I'm now using, and I can't seem to find an ad for it
anywhere.  I think I remember hearing rumours that it rolled to a newer
product called 'Allways' and that it is only bundled with Lotus 1-2-3. Is
any of this true, or does anyone know where I can obtain this, or a similar
pkg?? 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: opus@pioneer.unm.edu (Colby Kraybill)
Subject: Re: How to increase transfer speed in Kermit
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 03:21:09 GMT
Organization: Space and Planetary Image Facility


You might want to ry increasing the size of the packets being transfered.

Set the packet sizes on your local machine to 1024, also set the packet length
to 1024 on the VAX at your school.  This is accomplished by issuing this
command in kermit.

set pack len 1024



-- 
Colby Kraybill
Space and Planetary Image Facility
University of New Mexico
Xref: sparky comp.sys.misc:593 comp.os.cpm:921 comp.misc:2951 comp.os.misc:743 misc.wanted:7189
From: donm@pnet07.cts.com (Don Maslin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.os.cpm,comp.misc,comp.os.misc,misc.wanted
Subject: Re: Help with CP/M requested (READ ME you just might be able to help!)
Date: 21 Jul 92 05:05:22 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet07], San Diego, CA

shad04@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dan Fandrich) writes:
>In article <kasdorf.711427149@honte> kasdorf@mu.uleth.ca (Matthew Kasdorf) writes:
>                 [stuff deleted]
>>Any information anyone may have on obtaining a boot/utility disk for the
>>iBEX7102 or any constructive criticism/help would be most welcome.
>
>There is a guy in San Diego who takes care of the CP/M system disk archives
>for the Dino(saur)SIG, part of the San Diego Computer Society.  I have a 
>1.5 year old list of available system disks, and the iBEX isn't among them.

Regrettably, it still is not among them.  Fact is, I never heard of it 'til
the prior message!  I'd like to get a copy though.

                        [more stuff deleted]

>>>> Dan

Hi, Dan!!
                                                 - don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc
From: ccyang@oregon.uoregon.edu (Chun-Ching Yang)
Subject: How to increase transfer speed in Kermit
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: 25 Jul 1992 19:26 PDT  

I just bought a 14,400 Modem. However, after trying to download the data from
the VAX in the university, I found the download speed from the mainframe to my
Mac was slow. The transfering speed was about 560 byts in each  TWO seconds. If
the high speed modem worked fine, then the transfer speed should be about
1,440  in ONE second. (Is that right?)
I have check the VAX and the modem there is 14,400. I don't expect that the
speed can  reach 1440 in a second but the speed I got was so slow. How come?

Can anyone help me solve this problem?


                                                        Yang
From: coyote@world.std.com (Coyote)
Subject: Re: Apple Newton Development
Followup-To: comp.sys.pen
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:43:36 GMT

In article <sirota#m#_alex-210792203325@17.9.6.56> sirota#m#_alex@msgate.corp.apple.com (Alex Sirota) writes:

   Look into Dylan the DYnamic LANguage that Newton uses for starters. You can
   get a manual if you present yourself nicely thru
   dylan-manual-request@cambridge.apple.com

Dylan is a new object-oriented dynamic language developed by Apple.
Apple hasn't announced how or whether it will be used in any products.

A Dylan FAQ sheet is available by anonymous ftp from cambridge.apple.com
in the file /pub/dylan/dylan-faq.txt.

If you find that you want a manual, send your physical address to
dylan-manual-request@cambridge.apple.com.  There's no charge.

  -Andrew Shalit
   alms@cambridge.apple.com