HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: korean guys...
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:01:50 GMT
Organization: swarthmore college

In article <1992Nov20.174407.18025@tc.cornell.edu>,
jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
> 
> 	Hey, if I don't get minority consideration, then you shouldn't 
> either.  :)  (This is actually a only a half smiley.)  Correct me if I'm
> wrong, but I always thought the Jews weren't Caucasian, just like anyone
> else from the Middle East wouldn't be classified as Caucasian.  Oh yeah,
> I was speaking in anthropologic terms, of course.
> 
I think that for most Jews in this country ancestry becomes a little mixed
up in terms of racial type.  All my great-grandparents made it over here
from Eastern Europe (not too far from the Caucasus itself) at the turn of
the century.  They were there for centuries and centuries and I'd be
surprised if there wasn't some intermarriage after the Diaspora. Strictly
speaking in anthropologic terms, I suppose I would be classified as Semitic
rather than Caucasian, but there's no way I could pass myself for anything
but "white" in this society.  (And thank God I wasn't living in Europe
fifty years ago, where I certainly would be made to feel that I was
different).

Again, a "correct me if I'm wrong:" Don't you get minority consideration in
applying for jobs?  Was the half-smiley because you think that employers
only pay the idea lip service or because you think that Korean-Americans,
being a relatively successful minority group, are generally excluded from
affirmative action plans?  I suppose this question could lead to a whole
new and interesting thread. How accepted do most of you (I speak here
primarily to second generation and 1.5 generation Korean-Americans, who
consider English their first language) feel by American society?  Speaking
as a member of a different sort of minority, I would say that although I'm
aware anti-Semitism exists out there, I've never experienced it personally
in my whole life (at least that I'm aware of--e.g. nobody has ever called
me a "kike" or anything like that to my face...)

Stephen
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Dreaming Soldier (was Bi-Bim-Bab Blue & Why I was in army)
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:00:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov19.032301.21704@tc.cornell.edu> jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
> ...  And as far as your
> dick is concerned, *ahem*, this is a family newsgroup after all, so I'll
> refrain from my comments.  :)  

Don't be afraid!  Say it!  It's not a dirty word.  Besides, what can a
few dirty words do to my never-ending hunger?  Even if you cannot
achieve the impossible without attempting the absurd, the truth shall
make you free.  That's right, do not let fear link with your name, and
let melancholy never taint my name.  Relax in a panic-free atmosphere,
if that's what you are after, which I could probably care less about,
but having scrupulously provided it at no extra charge, I should
recommend you enjoy it whether you want it or not.
   And speaking of no extra charge, have you ever tasted ramyun at
04:00 hour cooked by your comrade in a cold bunk?  Perhaps under an
enormous poster with the inscription:

		 DON'T SUSPECT A FRIEND.  REPORT HIM.

It is something to ponder about even as you blow cold air into the
soup of that hot ramyun you hold in your frozen hand while you quietly
eat, so as to not wake others who might find them tasty.  Then again,
one can never stop delicious aroma from spreading even to a tired
soldier who is dreaming...

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Hanterm and cu command
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:43:29 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Nov16.223107.18975@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.185313.3431@cs.mcgill.ca> terry@cs.mcgill.ca (Terry LIM) writes:
>>
>> ....  using hanterm and using 'cu' ....to use kids.kotel.co.kr?
>
>	As far as I know, 'cu' & 'tip' doesn't work for binary.
>	There should be 'tipx' source floating around somewhere, which
>	supports transparent mode & zmodem.

	I forgot to tell you easier way (sorry but tipx is good stuff to have).

	Use 'telnet kids.kotel.co.kr | hcode -ki', in order to change
	any KSC (binary) codes to ASCII.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: moon@acca.nmsu.edu ('short attention span theater')
Subject: Korean traditional chauvinism ( was korean guys )
Organization: Alternative Collegiate Computing Association
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:48:55 GMT


I agree. Many 1st generation korean males are very rooted
in a home tradition that emphasises a subserviant female role.

But korean's aren't the only ethnic, religious group to hold
such values. 

Maybe we are the lesser of possible evils :)

Oy! Don't ask me to explain that last comment.

- jon

-- 
99 logic errors in a program, 99 logic errors, fix one up, run it again, 
100 logic errors in a program. 100 logic errors in a program,100 logic errors, 
fix one up, run it again,101 logic errors in a program.101 logic errors in a 
program,101 logic errors, fix one up, run it again, 102 logic errors in a
From: kim-julee@yale.edu (Julee Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: hcode upgrade : suggestion ?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:45:33 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu
Keywords: hcode KSC hangul code

In article <1992Nov19.191522.11985@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>In article <leejuney.722124872@acf9> leejuney@acf9.nyu.edu (June-Yub LEE) writes:
>>Also what's the best choices for SO/SI?
>>Since ^N/^O is not allowed for News Net I will use
>>"{", and "}" and original { will be converted to {{.
>>Is it looks okay?
>
>	Well, here's my opinion:
>
>	First, I'm assuming ISO format is only used to utilize
>	SMTP & USENET; in result, no direct editing is assumed;
>	I'm also assuming that ISO format is created by some of
>	converting tools such as hcode not by editors.  Also,
>	I'm assuming terminal editors are using ISO only to read.
>
>	Assuming above, we can achieve the orig. purpose of ISO form
>	using either 0x08 (Backspace) or 0x7f (DEL); these can posted
>	on USENET w/o any problem.
>
>	Before we go further, it would be nice if someone in *.kr
>	can give me some ChangeLog or explain how the ISO code is
>	handled on hanterm so that I can replace SI/SO to BS/DEL
>	and test it - xterm is known to be one of infamous undocumented
>	program; and ALAS, its descendant, too.
    Why don't you send your question to Mr. Song,Jaekyung
(jksong@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr.).  He must know that because he made a descendant
of one of infamous undocumented program as you know well.
>-- 
>	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
>	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
>	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Dating
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:31:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Nov19.023103.29452
Organization: What Org?

In article <9211181443.aa15396@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> changl@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>Since my major is Computer science (you know computer science
>is very time consuming major), I don't have time to spend on
>dating. So I haven't dated anyone for a while.

	That can't be an excuse!
	Go join some fraternity or help some projects of (you know what
	I'm talking about).
	Actually, that (frat. house) was the first place I moved in
	when I hit the American ground; and I had good time there
	(I miss those sisters).
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Yongsup Park)
Subject: Re: kids
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:19:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.035412.12539@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>What the heck is the deal on kids BBS?

Not a big deal ..

>They limit the number of users registered not the number of active
>users on system.

It's the limit of the software they're running.  Pirate ver ?.?
It limits the number of registered users to 1800( not sure ).

>It's already pain on my ass to go thru that slow, far, mutil-hops
>internet to .kr.  I'm really sad finding out many local (Korea) users
>keep trying login & new to register themselves which leaves people
>out from Korea no chance.  Well, heck with it; I'll stay with USENET.

All you said is true and the BBS is not specifically intended for 
users overseas, though they are always welcomed.

The only couple of things I love about this BBS, despite all the evils 
you stated, is first, it uses HanGul, second, people appear there are 
living in Korea now.  These alone attract me enough. 
Of courese, you may have different opinion.
One more feature you might like is that you can exchange emails with 
your friends in Seoul who has no Internet/BITNET access.

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Yongsup Park               \    park@anmsd3.msd.anl.gov    /    Intentiolnally
Physics & Astronomy Dept.   \   park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu  /   left as a
Northwestern University      \  B40180@ANLCV1.BITNET     /   blank space.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: krisb@westford.ccur.com (Kris Beatty)
Subject: Re: Service in Korea
Keywords: army, liberty
Reply-To: krisb@masscomp.UUCP (Kris Beatty)
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation  - Westford, Ma
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:39:18 GMT

When people forget about history, history tends to repeat itself.
I was in the American Army for 12 years, twice stationed in Korea,
where I meet my wife.  I dislike wars much less armies, they are
a neccessary evil of life.  When you are mad, your first reaction
is to strike something, if that something has a big stick, you would
think twice.  While in Korea, I was amazed at the disipline the 
soldiers had (unlike what the US has these days (PS: you can not
buy loyalty through money)) in Korea, it does have its draw backs.
But when it comes down to it, you need to have soldiers react rather
than debate, instead of one life, several others could lose theirs.
By reducing the armies, will not help. Why, there is no preperation
for war, you are either ready or not.  I have seen a lot of my friends
die because they were just enlisted, trained a few weeks, then put
on the front lines.  Where Korea is positioned, you need to be prepared
at all times.  I was glad to here some remarks on the resent activities
of the North (ie... tunnels into the South, Spies placed in key areas
to hinder mobilizaion in the time of war). N. Korea may never strike,
but if you look at history, when your table is bare and next door
has plenty, it sure is tempting.  As a christian, I can not bare
to think of taking a life, but if someone wants to take away my rights,
I will fight, not for my sake, but for my children and friends.

Kris Beatty
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: RE: Who are they?-Bruce Cumings, and Jim.....
From: <CHOI@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:11:52 CST
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Thank you very much for those who posted/e-mailed about Bruce Cumings.
Have a nice day.

Sincerely,


Youngjun Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Can I get all user list ?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:07:01 GMT
Organization: What Org?
Keywords: internet, bitnet,korea,ac, kr, co

In article <1992Nov16.182411.28020@cis.ohio-state.edu> lee-d@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu (dong-seok lee) writes:
>
>How to get all the user list in certain domains, which can be internet, bitnet
>hosts in Korea.

	First, I'm a bit confused with the word domains here.
	But anyway, it really doesn't matter if that domain is out
	of your NIS(X-YP) master.

	Unfortunately, you can't do that unless you can login there;
	and they are supposed to be confidential on .com.

	Well, if it's local domains under NIS master & slaves, it's
	different story; but going accross LAN, you just can't.

	The most simple and stupid breakin is logging in to random user
	with password from dict. file; and no one would like to help them.
	That's why you are recommended to use even Control chars for passwd.

>Also I typed "ypcat -d domain name passwd" then it goes infinite loop.

	This won't work out from your NIS database (out of your NIS (YP)
	master server).

	BTW, I'm very curious how you could find remote NIS domain name.

Sorry that I can't help you; but this just cannot (or should not) be done.
I think the best way is to send a query mail to root@host or possibly
postmaster@host with your justification for the need of userlist.

P.S.: just wait until X.500 white page :)
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Subject: Re: Yong Oak Kim, and Ki Philosophy
Reply-To: gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gag-Lae  Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:56:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.231109.3641@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> kim_nl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Nina L Kim) writes:

>        Yes, the term 'Ki' is a general one that is widely used in eastern
>philosophy (and nowadays in western culture, specially in New Age "philo-
>sophy").  That's why Philosopher Kim Yong Oak clarified several
>times to avoid the misunderstanding.  You should be aware of such
>implication when you pose a question of what is Ki chul-hahk.

	Thank you for your enlightenment.  Maybe you can be of further
help in learning what Kim's Ki philosophy is.
	Now, back to my original subject "Yong Oak Kim, and Ki
philosophy," anyone care to comment?

	Gag-Lae Kurtis Kim
	gk31@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
	THE SEEKER OF TRUTH
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: myang@sorak.kaist.ac.kr (Min Yang Yang)
Subject: A faculty position at Computer Eng. Dept, Pusan N. Univ
Organization: KAIST in Seoul Korea
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 08:17:30 GMT

The Computer Engineering Department of Pusan National University,
Pusan, Korea is seeking a faculty candidate in the area of Computer 
Architecture or Artificial Intelligence. The candidate should have a
Ph.D. and strong background in one of these areas.
For more information, contact Dr. Saeyang Yang with below address.

             Saeyang Yang
             Dept. of Computer Engineering
             Pusan National University
             Pusan, 609-735   Korea
             Phone: +82-51-510-2446
             Fax: +82-51-517-2431
             E-mail: syyang@hyowon.pusan.ac.kr
From: hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Soojaebi (was Re: My life as a Bulgogi)
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:57:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov24.010322.3961@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>For the first time, I am beginning to make connection between your posting
>machine's name with your inclination.
>
>If the machine name has anything to do with your career, wouldn't you say
>there may be a confilict of interest?  :)

"anatomy" is only the name of the building the cpu resides, and all
the computers, no matter how hungry they are, all get the domain
"anatomy" whether they want it or not, or so my system administrator
tells me.  There are other interesting machines here, such as:

  anat3d2.anatomy.upenn.edu (surprise surprise!)
  ramyuntang.anatomy.upenn.edu
  bejimil.anatomy.upenn.edu

Please don't finger them too much.  

Hyunsuk Seung
hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: moon@acca.nmsu.edu ('short attention span theater')
Subject: koreans wait for Jesus' second comming Oct 28 1992 ?
Organization: Alternative Collegiate Computing Association
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:18:29 GMT


sorry if this topic has been beaten to death already.
Some time last month, I heard by rumor that
there was a korean religious group who was convinced that
jesus would return in onlyl a couple of days.
So they sold all their posesions and waited in churches
in korea and the u.s. for the wahtever you call it. rature ? 

Well.. I am under the impression that it didn't occur as they hoped.
So what happened to all these people ?


-- 
99 logic errors in a program, 99 logic errors, fix one up, run it again, 
100 logic errors in a program. 100 logic errors in a program,100 logic errors, 
fix one up, run it again,101 logic errors in a program.101 logic errors in a 
program,101 logic errors, fix one up, run it again, 102 logic errors in a 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Service in Korea
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:55:15 GMT

In article <26498@optima.cs.arizona.edu> kim@cs.arizona.edu (Kyung Soo Kim) writes:
>From postnews Sun Nov 15 15:25:36 1992
>
>  You are quite right.  But let me ask you and other netters "how many 
>  people get around the mandatory service in Korea just because they
>  think so valueable and able than the people who serve the 2-3 years 
>  of their life in the service?"  It is true that some people need to be
>  exempt from the mandatory service if there is clear evidence that they
>  can do much better things for Korea.  But I believe there are only a few
>  such people in Korea.

	I'm not the one this article directly addressed, but since you asked
"other netters," I will put in my 2 wons worth.  I wrote in another article
that I do not wish to serve in the army.  In my case, I don't believe that
I'm better than others who go on to serve in the army.  Rather, I just don't
believe in mandatory service.  Military organizations differ from other
social organizations in that it takes a person, suppresses his/her 
individuality and turns him/her into a killing machine.  Yes, I'm putting
things in the most bleak terms, but they are true.  Perhaps there are people
who like being in such environment, I'm not one of them.  I like being
different.  And I believe if one does not want to be part of such organization,
then one should have every right not to be forced into joining it.  


-- 
T. H. Brian Chung                      | Happiness is...              
Internet: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu   | "Tea, Earl Grey, hot."
Bitnet: jfe@cornella                   | 210 Lake St. Apt. 11-A 
DECnet: CESR10::THC                    | Ithaca, NY 14850  Tel: 607-272-1543 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Coffee? Re: hey this is America (was Re: korean guys...)
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:00:19 GMT

In article <98634@netnews.upenn.edu> hseung@anat3d1.anatomy.upenn.edu (Hyunsuk Seung) writes:
>
>I couldn't agree more!  But only 99.9%.
>   Information is key to prosperity, and USENET is an international
>medium.  You should have respect for others who may not read from
>America, and this is the 90s!  Wake up!  DRINK a REAL coffee--an
>Italian espresso in fact!  But please, don't get upset.  This is only
>0.1%.
>   And speaking of espressos, has anyone tried making them from
>boricha?  It takes the bitterness away, just like the egg shells or
>salt used by cafes and restaurants.  A stong espresso shall make you
>feel wiser, stronger, and more optimistic!

	Espresso?  Give me a nice single capuccino with a little bit of
Italian strawberry syrup in it.  It's simply delicious.  Or just plain
capuccino with lots of cinnamon.  And forget about feeling wiser, stronger
and more optimistic.  Take your gf/bf out to a cafe that serves these
capucinnos, order them, drink, and just gaze into her/his eyes.  And....  
Um, I'd better get off here before I become one with James "Pervert" Choi. :)

ObKorean:  Anyone know a place that serves a great capuccino in Seoul?  I'm
going to miss them dearly when I go back this Christmas.



-- 
T. H. Brian Chung                      | Happiness is...              
Internet: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu   | "Tea, Earl Grey, hot."
Bitnet: jfe@cornella                   | 210 Lake St. Apt. 11-A 
DECnet: CESR10::THC                    | Ithaca, NY 14850  Tel: 607-272-1543 
Organization: Freshman, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:58:36 -0500 
From: Hannah Moon <hm15+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: update me on the singers...

hi everyone.  my name is hannah.  i was in korea this summer had a
really good time.  i was wondering, who are the hot pop singers now? 
this summer i must have seen suh tae jee and kids at least 5 times each
day on tv. i hope they're not singing anymore...  i only like juno.
and also the gal who worships madonna and sings eh-soo has got to go
too.  she's ugly as sin.
i liked shin- seung hun this summer. 
if anyone has his album in cmu, get in touch with me.
later

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: NOT ANYMORE (Re: reponse of response to James Choi)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 01:35:28 GMT
Organization: What Org?

	Subject says all.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: Soojaebi (was Re: My life as a Bulgogi)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:28:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.164159.22680@news.acns.nwu.edu> andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
>Make sure that recipes you guys exchange are fat-free :)

But, why?  Maybe you have a "skewed" mind?  :)

>Andrew Sung Hyun Kim

James Choi
From: whang@tamaru.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Whang Sung-Keun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: What in the world are you trying to say ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:11:34 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Organization: Dept. of Electr. Eng., Kyoto Univ., Japan


In article <27323@dog.ee.lbl.gov> yjhbhc@dante.lbl.gov (Joe Huang) writes:

  > Path: kuee!kuis!wnoc-kyo!sh.wide!wnoc-tyo-news!nec-tyo!nec-gw!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!dante.lbl.gov!yjhbhc
  > From: yjhbhc@dante.lbl.gov (Joe Huang)
 
  > Reply-To: yjhbhc@dante.lbl.gov (Joe Huang)
  > Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley

  > >Have heard about Takesima? 
  > >It is the the name of island we call "Dok-Do" ...
  > >What about Mt. Baek-doo?
  > >I heard that half of it already was given to China by North regime.
  > >I'm not sure it is true or not. but if it is not true how can it be heard?
  > >What about "Gan-do", it was given to China by Japan.

What on earth are  you trying to say ? I don' exactly know.
Takeshima is Japan's island? Oh... you are kidding? Are you nut?
It just our island . I don' know why japanese always argue their own
ones .

			





















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