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Subject:      Handicap Digest # 3009

                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 3009

                        Wednesday, November 04, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                               Parents' Guilt
                                 Yes becky!!
                             Re: NEW BORN DEAFIE
                               new publication
                                  Vacation
              U.n. Secretary-general On Disabled Persons Decade
                                  Exercise
                                  Vacation
                                  happiness
                                 challenges


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Subject: Parents' Guilt
From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 BG> How old is your kid and hope for your own sake that he will stay that
 BG> way. I am curious, is your kid hearing or deaf and yourself?? Im sure
 BG> that you already know that I am deaf. I am proud of it.

Becky, why do you feel proud to be deaf?  I find this very interesting
because I've never felt pride in being deaf.  I am not ashamed of
being deaf and accept my deafness but deafness is not what makes
ME a person.  There are many of us who feel proud of our accomplishments
but I think most of us would rather not have a hearing impairment.
Even though I do have a profound nerve deafness, I do try to do the
best with what I do have and feel I would have missed out on so
much in this world if I made myself a part of the Deaf community.
My viewpoint on this is not meant to be offensive, just a very
realistic viewpoint.

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Subject: Yes becky!!
From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 MO> now I am the Psychologist for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing.  So ironic
 MO> that I have to add Hard of Hearing.  Some people have definite ideas
 MO> about their identity.  Like I said, I prefer to know as a DEAFIE!
 MO> And I proud of it.

Uh...er...why do you feel it is ironic you have to add HoH?  If you
stop and think about it - the overall hearing impaired population
consists mostly of hard of hearing folks - the deaf population
is a very small percentage.  There are really folks who should
NOT be classified as deaf as they have too much residual hearing
and thus are really more hard of hearing.  I don't think identity
has anything to do with it, Margaret.  Aren't you a person first,
not a deaf person first?  We are all individuals who just happen
to be deaf or hard of hearing.

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Subject: Re: NEW BORN DEAFIE
From: Jay.Croft@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jay Croft)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/421 - Twilight Clone Mac, Rockville MD


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

The National Association of the Deaf (may its tribe increase!) does
not object to cochlear implants in adults.  It strongly objects to
subjecting innocent children to this surgery.

Twenty years ago, acupuncture as a "cure" for deafness was a fad
around the USA.  Deaf children were stuck with pins all over their
bodies, just because they were deaf.  I never heard of any of them
being "cured."

This fad has pretty much died out but is now being replaced by
unnecessary surgery which has poor results.

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Subject: new publication
From: Gordon.Gillesby@f1007.n282.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Gillesby)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:282/1007 - DRAG-Net, Andover MN


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

                                 ANNOUNCEMENT

The third edition of the International Directory of Peridoicals
Related to Deafness, compiled by  Steven A. Frank, is now
available.  The directory is a listing of over 500 domestic and
foreign magazines, journals, and newsletters related to deafness
with alphabetical information on the periodical title, date of
initial publication, frequency, price, editor, name and address of
publisher, organizational affiliation, contents descriptions,
former title information, and language of the text.  There are also
subject headings describing general focus of each periodical and
information about where the periodical is indexed.  An organization
name index and country of publication index are also included.

The price for the directory is $10.00 plus $3.00 for shipping and
handling.  For more information about the directory, contact Steven
Frank, Gallaudet University Library, 202/651-5215 (TDD) or Susan
Davis 202/651-5684 (voice/TDD).  Purchase orders accepted from
libraries or institutions only and may be faxed to 202/651-5489.
Telephone VISA or MasterCard orders can be placed by calling
202/651-5380.  Orders from individuals must be prepaid by check,
money order, or credit card addressed to Gallaudet Universtiy
Bookstore, 800 Florida Avenue NE, Washington DC 20002-3695.  Please
include catalog number A6675 on your order and allow 30 days for
delivery.

 * OLX 2.2 * Handicapped is a state of mind & I moved out of state

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Subject: Vacation
From: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Well, we survived, used the wheelchair to get upgraded to 1st class
on the flight back by suggesting I could get to a seat right by the
door without having to transfer to their aisle chair.  It worked.
Do enjoy first class flying!

Well hit of Orlando is Universal, with Sea World second.  Mickey
world was great, but the Magic Kingdom was really lacking
accommadtion.  We were told in Epicot that the whole park was due
to a major renovation in the  next 4 years and rides would probable
become accessible.

Universal offered a discound for the "physically challanged", but
most thing area no problem.  I only had to transfer for one ride,
"Back to the Future", but was it worth it.  Definately ride the
ride.  Offer 4 big guys to get them ahead of the line if they will
help you transfer.  All parks let the wheelchairs to the front of
the lines.  Great ride!   Simulator type ride of using the car to
go into the past.  Wild and has you holding on for dear life, but
you probable don't  move more then 7 feet total.

Sea World was also great for wheelchairs.  I didn't even have to
ask, nad had 1/2 price ticket for myself, and used a coupon for
from AAA for my wife.  Again, to the head of the lines.

But in October, the crowds were small and weather in the 70 and
80's with low humidity.

Next time I go to Disney World, I will offer to get some big guys
in first if they help me into the ride.  No discount tickets at
Disney land and by far the least accessible for the disabled.  Go
figure.

Came home bushed, but had a good time.  Glad  I took today off to recover!
Regards, John

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Subject: U.n. Secretary-general On Disabled Persons Decade
From: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Joe, talked to a couple of different British families we met in
Orlando about accessibility of Britian.  They claim that they are
centuries behind the Colonies.  The kid I talked to has spinabifida
and was in a chair.  No school buses for him.  little or no public
transporation.  No group homes for those needing them.  Not sure
what happens when the parents die.

But, I would still like to visit it.
Regards, John

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Subject: Exercise
From: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

I work 40 hours a week, and am a T-7,8 para.  I am usually dog
tired when I get home and feel pushing all over the complex,
transfers for driving and the like all the exercise I can take.

I don't use any special equipment.
All this aside, I probable should at least do some standing!
Regards, John

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Subject: Vacation
From: John.Lynch@f1000.n261.z1.fidonet.org (John Lynch)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:261/1000 - Nerve Center, Pikesville MD


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

Another thing I forgot to mention Linda, is that a wheelchair
accessible room doesnot necessary mean grab bars, big bathroom in
Flordia, Just a big bathroom door.  The Flordia law was weak and
didn't really define accessible.

Wehen we arrived at the Comfort Inn, we found that the room would
not work well. Complained to the office, and they put us in the
Clairion Hotel, right next to the Convention center.  Half the U.S.
dentist were staying there attending the ADA national convention.

Hotel was beautiful.  Major upgrade in quarters!
Regards, John

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Subject: happiness
From: Allison.Cozzi@f3216.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Allison Cozzi)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/3216 - Computer Communicat, Concord Ca


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

-> Hi Allison, To quote the phrase "DON'T WORRY, BE HAPPY, You know it w
-> only that but it takes less mucsles and effort to smile than to frown
-> year I had brain surgery and now I can smile even wider and mor often
-> guess what I'm trying to say is that even with pain it's go to be ali
-> well as al the moral support I got And I found that's what made the
-> difference.MORAL SUPPORT (that's why I'm  on here.I hope I didn't bor
-> you.Take care. Catch you later, Al

     Didn't bore me a bit, Al!  It takes the input of all of us
sometimes to hit upon something that rings true to someone who is
depressed or feeling like they're at the end of their rope. You prove my
theory that physical disability brings along with it so many life
changes that depression is a natural result. How we deal with our
disabilities is what makes the difference! After living out the lives we
lead, after successfully battling depression and discouragement, I think
each of us has a message to carry back to the world in general. Each
message is different but each is pretty inspiring in its own right.
     Glad you are back to smiling now, Al!!
                                                     Allison

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Subject: challenges
From: Allison.Cozzi@f3216.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Allison Cozzi)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/3216 - Computer Communicat, Concord Ca


[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

-> I have been fighting with myself about this.  It has been four years
-> since the accident, and I feel I haven't done what is expected of me.

     My initial reaction is to tell you that it doesn't matter what
"they" thik and what unreasonable burdens they may put on you. The only
person you need to be happy with is YOU, Beth. I will not say what
initially came to mind then...it sounds like you may be having doubts as
to whether or not you should be doing something else.
     We all go through our rehab at a different pace...and, with or
without a disability, some of us would go on to do extraordinary things
and some of us wouldn't. It's an unfair expectation to put on your back
that, just because you are disabled, that you must go on and do
wonderful things, hlep people, etc. If that's what you want to do, then
fine. Certainly choosing something to go for and daily tackling the
challenges that are inherent would give you something to be doing while
you are deciding what you want to do. I tend to be academically oriented
so my choice would usually be school but tha's just my thing...not
yours. I would encourage you to look through your own assets, your own
strong points and make the very best of them. And I would recommend that
whether or not you ever sufferred a life-changing injury or illness.
     I don't have a whole lot of contact with society except for what I
have over the computer. I am in chronic pain and that limits me a lot.
Still, I feel that my life isn't useless as long as I can provide a
positive outlook by which a non-disabled person can compare their own
life. And I don't feel that that is a petty goal. When I was still
working, I worked with terminally ill and chronically ill patients and
learned more form them during am afternoon spent at their side that I
ever would have had I not been working in that field. SO I have seen it
from both sides. Of course, the other side is the easier one but that
wasn't the hand I was dealt...this is. So I play it and try to bring
some dignity to myself and to my limitations. I don[t think I have to
invent a cure for AIDS (although wouldn't that be wonderful?) in order
to say at day's end that I am "worthwhile". We all use personal markers
by which we are able to chart progress and it sounds like you are in a
phase where you are shaking yourself up, irritating the status quo, so
to speak, in order to explore your options. So keep an open mind to your
possibilities and learn to enjoy what's out there! Good luck!!
                                                    Allison

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