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From: guptar@ucs.orst.edu (Rakesh Gupta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: AZZA RETAINED
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:05:13 GMT
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In article <C0pKM7.M8w@uceng.uc.edu> bnataraj@uceng.uc.edu (Bhaskar Natarajan) writes:
>In article <1isjlsINN45v@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> guptar@ucs.orst.edu (Rakesh Gupta) writes:
>>In article <C0pCpu.G3u@ns1.nodak.edu> ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>>>
>>>     Azzaruddin is retained as Captain of the Indian team for the first three
>>>games against England. He will be reconsidered after that for the remainder of
>>>the England tour. It appears Kapil and Tendulkar were also considered for
>>>skippering the team. The team is not yet announced.
>
>
>>WHAT A SAD NEWS!!!
>
>	Yeah, i agree...that is if you mean "it is sad that they ACTUALLY
>	considered Tendulkar for the job" 
>
>	IMO, Azza definitely needs a chance at home..

IMO, I don't think so.  I don't think he should even be included in the team.
he need to rest for some time get his act together and then come back to play
cricket.  I think, same applies to manjrekar, shastri. as a matter of fact
shastri should never come back to cricket. It will be good for the Indian
cricket.


rakesh gupta


>
>Regards,
>Bhaskar.. (Go Bearcats !! NCAA Basketball 1993 !!!!)
>
>>
>>RAKESH GUPTA
>
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From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Subject: Re: Need info on WSC series urgently!!
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:55:27 GMT

In <1993Jan4.194333.18466@infonode.ingr.com>
kadaba@infonode.ingr.com (Ganesh Kadaba) writes:

| * The schedule for the WSC finals. (Dates, say/night match etc.)

Both guaranteed finals, and the optional third (played if 1 win each)
are day night matches, first in Sydney, other two in Melbourne (one or
two), all start at 14:30 local time, that's 03:30 UTC (work out what it
is in your local time yourself).  Break is scheduelled to be from
18:00 to 18:45 local time (07:00 to 07:45 UTC).  The games are supposed
to be finished by 22:15 local (11:15 UTC)

The first final is Sat Jan 16 (that will start Friday evening US time)
the second is Mon Jan 18 (will start Sun evening US), and the final one,
if its played, will be Weds Jan 20 (again Tues evening US time).

| * The lastest standings.

	P W T L		Points		(Played, Won, Tied, Lost, Points)
Aus	5 3 1 1		7
WI	6 3 0 3		6
Pak	5 1 1 3		3

Matches left before the finals are WI v Pak (this coming Sat),
and A v WI (this Sunday) both day games in Brisbane (which probably
means they start 09:00 Brisbane time, 10:00 for the rest of us in
eastern Aust, 23:00 UTC), and then Aust v Pakistan twice, on Tues
Jan 12, and Thurs Jan 14, both are day night games, in Melbourne and
Sydney resp, so start 14:30 local time (03:30 UTC).


Aust look to be certain to make the finals (only a complete mess up
can keep them out - they lose all their remaining 3 matches, and either
Pak beats WI, or improves their run rate enough (without beating WI)
to get above Australia's).  Even a(nother) tie will see Aust in the
finals for sure.

Likely opponent is WI, who get a spot if they win either of their two
remaining matches (or even tie), or even if they lose both, if Pakistan
lose both their games against Aust.

To get into the finals Pakistan must beat WI this Saturday basically
(they still have the slim chance of losing, then WI beating Aus on Sunday,
then Pakistan having very good wins over Aust twice next week, and making
it over Aust based on run rates).

If Pakistan beat WI on Sat things are more even.  If Aus beat WI the
following day, Pakistan need to beat Aust just once to get ahead of
WI, if WI beat Aus, then Pakistan need to beat Aus twice to get
ahead of them and make it a Pak v WI final series.

I haven't considered what happens if there are multiple ties, but
even if all teams should end on 8 points, Pakistan will probably
miss out on run rates (they're quite a way behind).

kre
From: m0a1530@zeus.tamu.edu (ABBAS, MUSTAFA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: pathetic batting display
Date: 12 Jan 1993 12:55 CST
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hi all,
pakistani batsmen showed once again how pathetically they can bat.
pakistan needed to score 213 runs in 50 overs to win the latest 
match. It was hard to believe that they attained an average of
3 runs per over some where in the 40s(overs). The asking rate 
kept climbing and after 30 or so overs it was around 6.2. At that
point malik and miandad were playing and the score was 90-3(not bad
considering their past several displays). One would imagine that
with so many batsmen to come, haq, akram, mujtabe, and rashid, 
pakistan would try to accelerate. But, for some unknown reason,
they kept plodding on and on.
After malik's dismissal, haq came and he even beat miandad in
their efforts to go slow. It was hard to believe that they were
scoring ones and twos when the asking rate was climbing so fast.
(i dont remember cursing the pak batsmen so much in half sleep).Only 
after the rate had gone up over 10, did pak try to score. Miandad 
hit couple of 4's and he was gone. Only and Only Akram tried to score,
he took 2's and 3's and forced haq. he tried lusty hitting but was 
out soon(atleast he gave his best shot). The rest is history.
Even the commentators could not believe why pak were not trying.
It looked like pak just wanted to score more than 150 or so after being
humiliated so many times. 
I hope for RSA tour, the selectors bring in shoib and kick rameez, sohail
and few others and appoint akram the captian.
	
		Mustafa (Akram for Captain, Waqar for Vice) Abbas
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From: trumpet-user@a.site.name (Default Trumpet User)
Subject: Re: Cricket Commentary Faux Pas
Organization: An Organization Name
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:31:57 GMT

In article <00966341.1767C8A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer) writes:
>Xref: news.cis.umn.edu rec.sport.cricket:18317 aus.jokes:1849
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>From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket,aus.jokes
>Subject: Re: Cricket Commentary Faux Pas
>Date: 6 Jan 1993 17:49:44 GMT
>Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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>In article <7048@otc.otca.oz>, brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:
>>In the second session of play last Sunday of the 3rd test between Australia
>>and the West Indies at the SCG, Australia were going along well at 5/300 odd
>>and David Gower had just moved into the Channel 9 commentary box.  He said:
>>
>>"Border and Matthews are each on 69, and that's a pretty comfortable position
>> for them both".
>>
>>Oh dear.
>
I believe it was the 3rd test of the 1989 season, when one of the Test-
Match Special commentators (may have been CM-J) made the following remark 
soon after the end of an England innings:
"... and we'll come up with England's bowling figures inbetween Lawson's 
balls". 
This was followed by faint wheezes and manic scuffling around the box as its 
other occupants evacuated immediately lest we hear some very "un-Radio 3" 
guffaws. With only a brief pause, CM-J continued, stoically!


SK
From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Allan Donald - is he overrated ?
Organization: Wits University
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 21:46:31 RSA

Allan Donald no doubt performed very well in the current Friendship
Tour by India. But then India were atrocious in their batting and it
made Donald look better than he really is.
 
All doubts about his ability will be erased when the West Indies and
Pakistan tour SA in February to play in a triangular series. Though,
I must mention that the lower order of the Windies is very suspect
and Pakistan is batting worst that India at the moment in Australia/NZ.
But if these teams hit reasonable form, it will be a good scale
to measure Mr. Allan Donald.
 
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From: shivanan@bode.usc.edu (Shivanand Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: bowling speed of Waqar and Wasim
Date: 8 Jan 1993 15:57:06 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <93008.164904U10987@uicvm.uic.edu> <U10987@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

	stuff deleted [...]

>3. Imran Khan
>4. Colin Croft

	No. 5 was Garth Le Roux of South Africa. I am positive about this!

	The rest all shift down by one place.


>5. Andy Roberts
>6. Dennis Lillee
>7. Wayne Daniel
>8. ?
>9. Len Pascoe
>10. ?
>11. Richard Hadlee
>12. Sarfaraz Nawaz
 
>I think there were two bowlers from England in No.8 and No. 10 positions. Proba
>bly Bob Willis was one of them.

	Only one Englishman  viz Bob Willis at no 10.

	Can somebody confirm this


	------------------
	Shivanand Bhajekar

>Mike.


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From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Batsman from Pakistan.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:14:03 GMT

In article <93011.094502SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <8466@news.duke.edu>, shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat) says:
>>
>>Dishonourable mention:
>>
>>Rameez Raja.
>>
>i remember when rameez raja was pakistan's darling- less then a year ago!
>the times they are a-changing...


Rameez has a tendency to play across the line to balls pitched on the off
stump without moving his feet, making him very susceptible to lbw's.

Infact the tech. of both pakistani openers are suspect.  Though i haven't
seen to much of Shoaib, he seems to play with a straight bat.

sahibzada rafay khan



>
>Stay cool,
>Spaceman Spiff
>
>Non illegitimati carborundum          Don't let the bastards get you down
From: mhiri01@mik.uky.edu (Manjunath Hiriyannaiah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Selection of Indian team
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:30:59 -0600
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Hi nettors,
            Today I think Indian team is going to be selected for ODI(First
two)matches against England. I think by this time team might have been
announced. Can Someone please post the information about this?
 
Manjunath H
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From: kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz)
Subject: Re: Lara's Score
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:53:44 GMT

In <1993Jan8.035923.19971@mel.dit.csiro.au> rcodk@catt.citri.edu.au (David Kershaw,Networks+Comms) writes:

| In article 24714@utagraph.uta.edu, asif@mecad.uta.edu (Asif Mohammed) writes:
| >   Can someone post Lara's score in the drawn WI/AUST test match.
| >Also throw some light on Gavsker's and Border's Test averages.

| Lara's score was 277 before being run out - second highest score at MCG
| after a 287 in 1903.

That's at the SCG.  The 287 was R.E.Foster for England in his debut innings.

| Border's average was quoted as 52.08 about halfway through his innings
| in the last test, thus you would expect to be just on or under the 52 mark.

Gavaskar's is 51.12 (remarkably similar).

kre
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Subject: Re: Pak win by 33 runs - the swing demons do it again
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:21:11 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1993Jan5.214537.21806@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi) writes:
> In this case, however, nobody would have paid the slightest attention
> to this rule. The spirit of this rule is to ensure sufficient action
> for the paying public (also to limit the WI pace quartet but I will be
> nice today) and I daresay that the public were getting quite a bit for
> their money. 

Actually this is not quite true. The match referee, Peter Burge from Australia,
did in fact fine Pakistan for it's slow over-rate over the three and a bit days
of the test match. From memory I think the fine was 10 per cent of the match
fee which was lower than the amount they could have been fined for the
over-rate they achieved, if that makes any sense. In my opinion no fine should
have been levied - I mean how can one justify a fine when the test finished in
three days and one session.

Alan
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Gavaskar's opening partners
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:20:01 -0800
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Roger Binny opened with Sunil Gavaskar in the Golden Jubilee test 
at Bombay 1980 vs. England????

Shivanand Bhajekar


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From: raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: Pak wins Test vs NZ!
Organization: DA&MRL, Engineering, UWO, London Ont. CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:59:04 GMT

In article <1ictfcINNosl@transfer.stratus.com>, nazir@sw.stratus.com (Meer Nazir) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan5.203558.20039@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi) writes:
|> 
|> > Pakistan's batting problems? I think the problem here is that they are
|> > not able to adjust between the test and OD games. Miandad may well
|> > have been talking about this when he was reported to have complaied
|> > about the schedule. I think Pakistan has played one four day game on
|> > the tour so far. They also have a problem with the number 3 spot in
|> > the OD side. Miandad will have to fix up the batting order. I think
|> > we'll see changes this weekend. 
|> > 
|> I agree I did'nt recall any incident of Pakistan playing minitours in between
|> another tour. Also too much OD cricket seems to put an extra pressure on the
|> players. I think our BCCP is once again showing carelessness in selecting 
|> tours.

There is a news of Imran Khan getting powers of advising BCCP in the ICC meeting,
and also he will be responsible for chalking out pakistan's international timetable
for next ten years (if i remmeber it right).

Source: Radio Australia.

|> About batting order change I think, they should try shahid saeed who has 
|> played a promising ining of 100+ in Australia(I might be wrong in number)
|> in place of Rameez who is having a little rough time opening the ining. Also
|> Inzmam has saved his position again what a lucky Multani he is :)

Rameez is the vice capt of the team so its difficult to drop him, i think Amir
should get a break (he has yet to play a decent knock on this tour), other
batsmen are on and off playing one match good then performing mediocrely in the next.
Basically what pakistan needs most at this time is getting there act together, if they
have to progress in WSC.


|> 
|> Meer Nazir
|> 
|> The only thing in 65 channels on TV I miss is W&W show which plays once in 
|> a while on channel9 or BBC.....

-- 

S.R.Raza.
raza@surya.engrg.uwo.ca
From: kahmed@titian.icsl.ucla.edu (Kashif A Ahmed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pathetic Display of Batting from Pakistan
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:44:56 GMT

Enough about India's batting guys!  I think Pakistan even tops India's 
batting.  216 in the first inning and some 190 odd runs in the second 
inning.  Total collapse of upper odder batting in both innings from Pakistan.
I was expecting a little bit better and responsible batting from Pakistan,
but they played like world Champions ;) ...Looks like Pakistan is back on 
track after Imran is gone.
From: 8934959@sunvax.sun.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SA vs India (5th Day)
Date: 7 Jan 93 12:04:16 +0200
Organization: University of Stellenbosch

As requested, here is the scorecard for the final day's play
in the fourth and final test between India and South Africa:

The Indian first innings and a part of the SA 2nd has already been
posted so this just the 2nd innings.


SA 1st innings 360/9 dec
India 1st innings 276

SA second innings:

K Wessels c and b Srinath..............................34
A Hudson c More b Srinath..............................11
H Cronje c More b Srinath...............................0
P Kirsten c Manjrekar b Kapil Dev......................13
D Cullinan c More b Srinath............................28
J Rhodes c Srinath b Kumble............................16
B McMillan not out ....................................11
D Richardson not out ..................................10
    EXTRAS (4lb 3nb)....................................7
                                                      ----
    TOTAL (for 6 wickets decl.).......................130

FALLS: 1/20 2/28 3/61 4/61 5/95 6/107

BOWLING :     O   M   R  W
Kapil Dev    17   4  29  1
Prabhakar    10   4  19  0
Srinath      27  10  33  4   (2nb)
Kumble       23  11  20  1   (1nb)
Raju         20   8  25  0


India second innings:

A Jadeja not out.......................................20
M Prabhakar c Richardson b Matthews..................... 7
S Manjrekar not out ................................... 2
     EXTRAS............................................ 0
                                                      ----
     TOTAL (for 1 wicket) .............................29

FALLS: 1/21

BOWLING :    O   M   R  W
Donald       4   0   7  0
Matthews     6   1  17  1
Cronje       3   3   0  0   
Rhodes       1   0   5  0


RESULT :  Match Drawn

South Africa win the series 1 - 0

Man of the Match :  Srinath
Man of the series : Donald
      

Although the cricket may have been poor, I think the Friendship Tour
achieved it's goal as far as friendship and good relations are concerned.
It was Kapil Dev's birthday yesterday, and the Newlands crowd sang happy
birthday to him which I thought was fitting in light of the unfair flak 
he picked up after the Kirsten run out.



James                                        *******************
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From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Sri Lanka : How good are they ?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:44:12 GMT
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In article <16B4FE612.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za>, 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
>Sri Lanka is capable of beating NZ (recent result), Zimbabwe and the way
>India is playing, perhaps them as well.
> 
>But, I question if they can beat the "top four":WI, Aus, Pak, Eng.
>Also, SA has improved tremendously since their reintroduction into
>world cricket and as they did reach the rain affected semis of the World
>Cup, I would have to say that Sri Lanka may not be able to beat SA either.

Sri Lanka came pretty close to beating Australia in the recent series. As has
recently  been evidenced by results in tests all over, it is no more a clear
verdict as to who is the best. Only individual cricketers have made things
absolutely thrilling, and swung the fortunes in favour of their teams. The W's,
Lara, Boon, Warne, Donald - the list of individuals who turned the game around
is not difficult to complete. In most cases, they have proved to be the
difference between the opposing teams. And it is not fair or sensible to expect
the same kind of performances by each one of them every time the team is
fighting with their backs to the wall(expect perhaps in the case of the two W's
- they look like they're almost unplayable). In essence, most teams are pretty
close to each other in strength, except perhaps, India and Zimbabwe. I am not
adding NZ to this short list because they too are quite a good side when they
play at their full strength. 

Amidst all this, the victory earned by Sri Lanka seems to have been the one
which was not solely due to an individual's brilliance on that occasion. Almost
every one of the players chipped in and maintained a constant pressure on the
opponents. This is a sign of a team which is developing just the right way. 

Finally, cricket being the game it is, IMHO, no team can be summarily written
off. And no team can be declared the unchallenged leader, unless they beat
every team comprehensively. If the two W's (and Mushtaq) keep up this tempo,
and Javed's batsmen can raise their performance levels, perhaps they will come
close to being the best Test team. Ofcourse, by then, Richardson's men would
have come to terms with the Test scene and they can give a good run for your
money. All in all, pretty interesting cricket for the next couple of years. 

-Murali

p.s: Coincidentally, this is the second successive article by Mukesh that I am
responding to. As I said, sheer coincidence. :--)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:49:04 CST
From: <U10987@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: bowling speed of Waqar and Wasim
 <1993Jan8.020917.10905@mel.dit.csiro.au> <1iivsdINNblo@cronkite.cisco.com>
 <1ik6frINNj0@hal.com>

I think that contest was held around 78 (or 79). Each bowler was allowed to bow
l one over. They also tested the accuracy of bowlers in that contest. Jeff Thom
son was the fastest and also the most accurate bowler in that competition. Seco
nd was Mike Holding ( his average speed of the over was less than Imran, but hi
s one ball was faster than any of Imran's six balls). The rest of the ranking w
as something like
3. Imran Khan
4. Colin Croft
5. Andy Roberts
6. Dennis Lillee
7. Wayne Daniel
8. ?
9. Len Pascoe
10. ?
11. Richard Hadlee
12. Sarfaraz Nawaz

I think there were two bowlers from England in No.8 and No. 10 positions. Proba
bly Bob Willis was one of them.
Mike.