From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: This is for the "Secularists"
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:34:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.205630.4073@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sjayanth@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Satyanand V. Jayanthi) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.194829.23290@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>>(The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
>>>As for the mahatmas who abound on the net......please 
>>>think how it hurts if u are a true Indian when u see
>>>people loyal to Pakistan, chhering them openly, 
>>
>>Well, let us just say that Leander Paes of India gets
>>to the US Open Tennis Finals and is slated to meet
>>Andre Agassi. There is no question as to who I shall
>>root for.
>>
>>How about you?
>>
>>If an Indian who has become an American citizen roots
>>for Paes, is that treason?
>>
>>Satya Prabhakar
>>--
>>
>What a comparison...its a question of how much you canm stretch yourselves
>into justifying what is so obviously improper and unpatriotic.
>This is not a fair comparison. First thing is US and India are not enemy
>countries always at each other's throats. Next thing is that any sporting
>event between india and US, I believe is never taken as some jihad...for
>pakistan, any such event is so..I recall an interview by Zaheer abbas when
>he was the captain saying so..Also , even if there were to be support from
>the indian community here to an indian team, it is not along religious lines.
>Even a christian of indian origin would support india. And when you compare
>the condition of the indian community here, where in you can be assured that
>you can have no political power (other that voting ofcourse ) and are 
>permanently off the mainstream with the muslims in india, who have all the
>political power and benifits in the world, you are not showing proper
>discrimination. 
>
>I presume you have some touch with hyderabad as i remember seeing you on
>soc.culture.indian.telugu...
>
>1. One thing which had occured quite recently and in a large scale was
>   the celebration of *india's defeat* in englands hand in 1987. There were
>   *large scale* celebrations in all the muslim districts of hyderabad..
>   I felt sick watching the *deepavali* at vidya nagar. Now will the indian
>   community
>   here in US celebrate any defeat of US in the hands of some other country?
>   
>2. Finally..here is a revealing personal experience..After the loss of
>   in one of those sharjah tournaments..the one in which miandad whacked a
>   six of the last ball of chetan sharma...a muslim friend of mine comes and
>   asks me.."evitandi mee vaallu allaa aadaaru?"..what about this Mr. Satya
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>   Prabhakar?                     

DO YOU UNDERSTAND OR SHOULD I TRANSLATE IT...

>
>3. Go and sit in an irani restaurent in hyderabad..during a sporting event
>   in which india is not involved and only pakistan is...the involvement
>   and the excitement in the crowds will be revealing..its as if "their"
>   country is involved.
>
>   To be honest, I have quite a few muslim friends who are otherwise. But there
>   are lots of hyderabadis who share similar experiences as mine. To deny
>   that certain sections of muslims feel more pakistani than indian is being
>   dishonest. It is a different question as to what the solution for this
>   could be..But atleast let us accept the existance of the problem..A section
>    muslims feel closer to pakistan than india..atleast in hyderabad..reasons
>   could be anything.. but please do not deny that..
>
>   Narain.(from a friend's account)
>   narain@bass.bu.edu
>
>

May be the guys who dont find this behaviour abhorrent are themselves capable of
such behaviour, only they didn't get a chance. No wonder they find nothing wrong
with it.

Ramakrishna