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From: ahmad@frisco.net.com (Ahmad Esmaeili)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: More questions for Anwar Saleh
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:36:08 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

In article <1992Jul28.174419.5170@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> eshghi@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Kave Eshghi) writes:
>doing is providing grist for the mill of all the 'trendy' racists who
>think Muslims are a bunch of fanatical half wits, to be forever kept
>in check by force. Let me remind you that making fun of people's
>beliefs is the first step to treating them as subhumans who can not be
>trusted with control of their own lives.
>

"Treating people as subhumans who can not be trusted with control of
their own lives" phrase reminds me of the book "VelAyateh Fagheeh"
written by AyatollAh Khomaini. He referes to Islamic Ommat as "sagheer".
FYI, a sagheer does not have much control over his destiny, rather it
is his "Kabeer" who controls his life.

Mash Bagher, please go ahead and read Khomaini's VelAyate Fagheeh and
I am sure you will realize, as I did, that who actually treats Muslims
as subhumans.

In Iran, the religion is the state. In this case the state rules will
translate into religious beliefs. I reserve my right to criticize the
state in whatever manner I wish. 

>In case you are so blinded by hatred that you cannot see the obvious,
>remember this: if and when the US decides to bomb the hell out of
>Iran, they will be using the kind of imagery and that you have provided
>to justify their act: these were a bunch of camel fucking animals anyway.
>

The kind of imagery that Islam has provided to our truely just
Islamic leaders in Iran has been more devastating to Iranians than
anythiny one can imagine. "Ommat is sagheer, dissidents are "mofsed-e fel-arz"
and those who convert are "mortad". Mash Bagher, it is the Islamic government 
that has been killing not the US. 

>shame on you
>Mash Bagher

Ahmad AghA

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: jamshid@socrates.ucsf.edu (J. Naghizadeh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: How the government can help
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:03:01 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

kambizm@ifi.uio.no writes:

>What governments can do is a lot. We see how the Menem government in Argentina
>or Salinas in Mexico has done to alleviate the problems.
>The most imprtant thing is the political will to clean up in the Mafia and
>to cut short the corruption rampant in the country and to facilliate the
>laws for investment. Already many of the bussinesses are monopolized by
>the Mullah Oligarchy and Bonyads. 
>These difficulties strangulate the entrepreneurship among the people. 
>                                           Kambiz

I completely agree. The problem of corruption within the state burocracy
is of minor importance. Other problems such as black marketering, bribes, etc.
exist in many industrialized countries as well. These problems are 
symptoms of the more fundamental economic problems.

The basic problem, as pointed out by Kambiz is the general legal climate
which discourages investment and entrepeneurship. This climate is encouraged
by the Bonyads and the week and dependent court system. The fact is
that no one is certain that his invetment will not be confiscated by the
Bonyads and there is no efficient court system to challeng the arbitrary
actions of the Revolutionary Court or the Bonyads. Also, there are
crippling labor problems in the factories caused by the Islamic Workers
Organizations which discourage an efficient work force.

As an example, the accute shortage of housing is caused by the inability of
landlords to recieve rent at current market proces. The galloping 
inflation has made many rental contracts obsolete. Yet the landlords are unable 
to increase the rent or evict the renters due to inefficient legal system.
Thus many apartments in Tehran are empty, and the landlords prefer to keep
it that way so that they may be sold at an equitable price without
the hassle to deal with renters.

--jamshid
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Takhti, The Champ.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 10:42:01 GMT
Organization: koshti

In article <1992Jul28.035950.5505@eng.umd.edu> alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad) writes:
>In article <Bs02w7.Jr0@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>>
>>Would someone please post an article about Takhti for this bandeh ignorant.
>>I , like most of you , have heard the name Takhti so many times like I know
>>him and I have met him. But I never heard the complete story of his 
>>_-MobarezAt-_ during Shah's regime and the reason for his death or who
>>murdered him. I believe they claimed that he committed suicide but he was
>>murdered according to many. 
>>
>>So who knows a lot about Takhti ?? What was his goals and his words ? who
>>did he follow and what did he fight for ?
>>
>>Ramin
>
>
>I made this very request some time ago (I believe it was before Ramin
>joined SCI), but nobody bothered. I'm hoping there might be some
>responses this time. Mr. Naraghi, how about you?
>
>Payandeh Baad Iran
>Alireza

Alireza, I know as much as you and Ramin know, unfortunately.  Takhti was 
a legend in the Iranian sports and wrestling in particular.  I even don't
know where to start from to trace him back.

I wish Mr. Behmanesh was at SCI to elaborate.  He must have known the whole
detail.  Olympic medal wise, he is the only person to have brought one gold
and two silver Olympic medals to Iran (Nassiri got one gold, one silver,
and one bronse).

Mack any information in your keyhan varzeshi's?

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 324-1055


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From: ahmad@frisco.net.com (Ahmad Esmaeili)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Names , Favorites ...
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:24:39 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

In article <Bs7rIJ.JGx@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>>What are your favorite names , Just persian names ?? I mean I think Ali is 
>>a nice name but I am looking for persian ones .

Mine are:

Sepeedeh (girl)
HengAmeh (girl)
BeetA    (girl)
Bijan    (boy)
Arash    (boy)
Iraj     (boy)

and that's it, I don't think I can ever afford more than six children.

-Ahmad AghA




P.S. AghA Ramin, Clinton %62, Bush %28, Undecided %10, Ahmad AghA +$20.
From: phd21@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A. Jaber)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khomeini Was an agent for Saddam
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:38:04 GMT
Reply-To: phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber)
Organization: University of Keele, England

>From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
>
>Imam Khomeini was also the "Guest of Honour" of Iraq.  This proves without
>a shaddow of doubt that he was an agent of Saddam Hussain.   

	Saddam used him against the Shah. So he was foolish to take
	refuge in Iraq. If he was really revolutionary he would have
	stayed in Iran and not to go to the enemies of Iran like 
	Iraq and France where the CIA was looking after him. 

A Jaber
From: tarokh@server.uwindsor.ca (TAROKH VAHID             )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Test
Keywords: Test
Date: 21 Jul 1992 18:27:06 GMT

This is not a test.
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Last Names
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:46:08 GMT
Organization: UB


Why do we carry our father's last name ? don't get me wrong , I love my
last name but isn't it kinda sexist ?? 

Ramin
From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Nelson Mandela
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:50:53 GMT

farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:

>Nelson Mandela is in Iran on an official visit to thank the
>government for its support of the anti-Apartheid movement.
>  

Let's see how the Khomeini regime supported the
anti-Apartheid movement:

	* comprehensive arm deals with Israel throughout the 80's
	(don't take me wrong; Israel, like the Khomeini regime,
	has whole-heartedly supported the anti-apartheid movement)

	* extensive deals with Col. North, a very progressive and
	anti-apartheid personality, as well as other individulas
	like Robert Hakim, late William Casey and other CIA
	officials who have been persistent supporters of the
	anti-apartheid movement

	* arming the Contra through the CIA. Contras were also
	anti-apartheid.

	* selling oil to S. Africa

That's a shining record of being anti-apartheid!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mmasood@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mohammed A Masood)
Subject: In search of Ayatollah Ruhallah's BOok
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:25:05 GMT

Salaam, could anyone on the net help me out in finding a book by
Khomenei (spelling?).  The book is called:

	Islamic Government
		by
	Ruhollah Khomenei (late).  It was published in 1979.

I really want a copy or two of this book.  IS there anyone on the net
who could email me address of the bookstore which carries this book or
mail me a copy of the boom if he has an extra one.
Wassalaam
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: (none)
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:21:42 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Jul24.035553.3309@eng.umd.edu> alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad) writes:
>
>Payman khan,
>I think you have misunderstood me totally. I was not refering to the
>Baha'ie faith when I wrote that article. I was simply refering to the
>fact that the British often times used to stir up hatred among people
>in any given part of the world in order to make their work easier for
>....
>Payandeh Baad Iran
>Alireza

Alireza is right , there is even an old saying that refers to british that
goes like this :

Tafragheh beyandAz vah hokoomat koun ....

English : Split people in halves so you can have power over them ...

Unfortunately that is how our people are now , they are split in halves and
quarters and eighths ... politically and religious , that is why we are
(have been) so easy to let some one else take over our country ...
So let's unite ...

Ramin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hasen@me.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: More support and recognition for monafeghin.
Originator: harrsen@rainier.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:21:11 GMT

In article <24JUL199210294344@utrcv1> ali@utrcv1 (Ali Eslami) writes:
>From: ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA)
>>
>>   Stuff deleted
>>
>>Ali
>
> Dear Ali;
>What's the matter? Does the love of all these people for their country make
>you surprise or is it the hate of all these people for MKO that make you
>worried.? At least most of these people are not on someone's payroll. It's
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>very hard for MKO to understand the true love of all these people for Iran
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and Iranian people. you speak like a hoer that talks about virginity. What
>  
>  ...... Junk deleted
>

in a later article "Ali Baba" :) writes;

>Subject: Re: US presidential election and Iranian interests

>Dear Brad;
>Let's be fair and not put all the blame on Bush. I feel very bad for Iraqi 
>  ....stuff deleted........
>What I'm upset about is we didn't finish the job in Iraq
                         ^^
>the first time and get rid of Saddam. Thanks to the Saudi's
>king and our CIA.
          ^^^^^^^  
 Mr. "Ali Baba", it is quite clear where your "true love"
lies. As the saying goes "Kafar Hameh Ra Be Kish Khod
Pendarad". You have been around "your CIA" too long and
believe that everyone has to be on somebody's payroll! 

Shame on you!

> ALI BABA

Asghar
From: bashir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Noushin Bashir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Computing in the Middle East
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:41:27 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: bashir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU

is the title of an article in the August issue of Communications of the
ACM. The article discusses the state of information technologies in a
few ME countries including Iran. The studies done on Egypt, Syria and
Jordan seem more recent, whereas the part on Iran is quite antique and
basically off the subject (IMO). The purpose of this posting is to
urge knowledgeable persons to contact the authors of the article and
inform them of the present state of Computing in Iran.  The authors
are interested to hear your comments and speculations especially on
'the social-political controls or inhibitions on IT in the Middle
East'.  

Sy Goodman's (one of the authors, Jerrold Green is the other one)
address is:

Snail mail:	MIS/BPA
		University of Arizona
		Tuscon, AZ 8572

E-mail:		goodman@mis.arizona.edu

Fax:		602-621-2433


Here is the passage on Iran:

Communications of the ACM - August 1992 Vol. 35 No. 8	pp 24


"	Iran

	An interesting irony may be seen in the fact that a powerful
	synthesis of modern technologies and traditional ideas were
	instrumental in the overthrow of the Shah and the victory of 
	Iran's Islamic Revolution of 1978-79. Without IT, this
	upheaval may  not have occurred. The Shah had invested heavily
	in these technologies as a means to secure his own position.
	Particular attention was paid to the development of a
	state-of-the-art TV and radio infrastructure which was used to
	furthur centralize his authority and cement his control.
	SAVAK, the Shah's secret police, was equipped with computers
	to keep track of Iran's large and growing community of
	political dissidents. Copy machines, shortwave radio, and
	improved telephone system all became the key elements in state
	building. Yet just as the Shah had hoped to use these  
	tools to support his control, his opponents turned them
	against him. Copy machines churned out antigovernment
	material, while cassette recorders were used to play
	tape-recorded exhortations by Ayatollah Khomeini from his
	places of exile in Iraq and France. People listened to the BBC
	and the Voice of America, which broadcast the exiled
	Ayatollah's instructions to his followers in Iran. In less
	than a year, the region's strongest leader with its best
	equipped military and secret police was chased out of the
	country by a movement headed by an elderly cleric who never
	had a bank account nor driven an automobile. 			"
-- 
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
simple system that worked... A complex system designed from scratch never
works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over,
beginning with a working simple system.		-J. Gall
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Clinton , another Kennedy
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:15:36 GMT
Organization: UB


If Clinton becomes the president of this country , he would be another JFK
in the pages of history. But I am pretty sure with the power that CIA has 
he would not be elected. Bush has another 4 years to _serve_ this country
and he is not _easy_ to defeat, well maybe after this next four years. 

But as they say , keep your fingers crossed and let's hope for ,if not the
best, better .

Ramin
From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Takhti, The Champ.
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:59:50 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <Bs02w7.Jr0@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>
>Would someone please post an article about Takhti for this bandeh ignorant.
>I , like most of you , have heard the name Takhti so many times like I know
>him and I have met him. But I never heard the complete story of his 
>_-MobarezAt-_ during Shah's regime and the reason for his death or who
>murdered him. I believe they claimed that he committed suicide but he was
>murdered according to many. 
>
>So who knows a lot about Takhti ?? What was his goals and his words ? who
>did he follow and what did he fight for ?
>
>Ramin


I made this very request some time ago (I believe it was before Ramin
joined SCI), but nobody bothered. I'm hoping there might be some
responses this time. Mr. Naraghi, how about you?

Payandeh Baad Iran
Alireza
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ardalan@astrosun.aero.org (Shadan M. Ardalan)
Subject: Re: Names , Favorites ...
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:39:27 GMT

In article <Bs7rIJ.JGx@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>What are your favorite names , Just persian names ?? I mean I think Ali is 
>a nice name but I am looking for persian ones .
>
[some fine names deleted]
>
>Add your favorite ....
>
>Also list the names that are for both Boys and Girls .
>
>
>Ramin
>
>
>Ps :  I almost forgot to add "Ramin".

So here are some of my favorite:

Shahram (Boy)
Shadee (Girl)
Nazhi (Girl)
Farah (Girl)
Beta (Girl) , pronounced bee-ta
              (i.e., not the second letter in the Greek alphabet)
Faribah (Girl)
Farzaneh (Girl)
Soori (Girl)

And of course there's my name which I think is the best of them all ;-)
Shadan

P.S. How would you spell the Persian word for "sugary sweet" in English 
     (pronounced shear-ene, I think)....I really like that word and
     would love to name my daughter that (when I have one in about 10 years).

     Was it the name 'Shirin' than Ramin posted....if it was, are there any
     other spellings......Thanks in advance

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Habib Khabiri (was Re: Takhti, a man for all times)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 06:25:22 GMT
Organization: varzeshi

In article <1992Jul30.213336.2071@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>
>>	This tradition has always cost dearly. Following in Takhti's
>>footsteps, men like Habib Khabiri, captain of the national soccer team;
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Houshang Montazerol-Zohour,the national wrestling champion and many
>>others were executed by the Khomeini regime.
>
>First, I don't remember Khabiri ever being the captain of the national
>soccer team. Maybe he wore the band in a couple of friendly matches
>where some others were absent.
>
>Second, I never heard anything about his political involvement and/or
>his execution. Khabiri played soccer (member of HomA) for a few years
>after the revolution. I suppose he then retired (he was around 30
>then) or left the country or something.
>
>In fact, I haven't heard much about him for some 10 years or so. Any
>news on him will be much appreciated.

mack jAn:

I have heard from football fans that our 'Habib koochoolo,' as we older
football fans used to refer to him, was indeed executed because of his
political beliefs.  I do not know what his affiliation was.  Unfortunately
I cannot confirm this account because I only heard it from football fans.

>=========================From brain archives=========================
>I remember in the hey days of "jAm e takht e jamshid", there was a
>rivalry of second kind between pAs and homA (with the first kind being
>betweek tAj and persepolis :-). Whenever the two teams played, Khabiri
>of Homa (left fullback) was usually matched with Faraki of pAs (right
>winger) who was 4-5 inches taller than Khabiri. Nevertheless, Khabiri
>would always beat Faraki on long balls.

Now this one I remember very well since we used to talk about it after 
those homA and pAs matches.  Thanks for the memory.

>    --mack

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 324-1055

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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Olympics Day book.
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:00:27 GMT

---
    'WRESTLING' NEWS
  1. UPDATE - OLYMPICS


Enter #'s, <M>ain News Menu,
or <P>revious?1
=START=   XMT: 17:14 Wed Jul 29  EXP: 05:00 Thu Jul 30 

UPDATE - OLYMPICS 

BARCELONA, Spain (JULY 29) UPI - Medal winners from Wednesday's Olympic finals.
 Cycling 

Men's Individual Pursuit - Gold, Christopher Boardman, Britain. Silver, Jens
Lehmann, Germany. Bronze, Gary Anderson, New Zealand. 
 Diving 

Men's 3-meter Springboard - Gold, Mark Lenzi, United States. Silver, Tan
Liangde, China. Bronze, Dmitri Saoutine, United Team. 

 Greco-Roman Wrestling 

48 Kilograms - Gold, Oleg Koutcherenko, Unified Team. Silver, Vincenzo Maenza,
Italy. Bronze, Wilber Sanchez Amita, Cuba. 

74 Kilograms - Gold, Mnatsakan Iskandarian, Unified Team. Silver, Jozef Tracz,
Poland. Bronze, Torbjoern Kornbakk, Sweden. 

130 Kilograms - Gold, Alexandre Kareline, Unified Team. Silver, Tomas
Press <RETURN> or <S>croll?s
Johansson, Sweden. Bronze, Ioan Grigoras, Romania. 
 Gymnastics 

Men's Team - Gold, Unified Team. Silver, China. Poland, Poland. 
 Judo 

Women's 66 Kilograms - Gold, Odalis Reve Jimenez, Cuba. Silver, Emanuela
Pierantozzi, Italy. Bronze, Heidi Rakels, Belgium; Kate Louise Howey, Britain. 

Men's 86 Kilograms - Gold, Waldemar Legien, Poland. Silver, Pascal Tayot, 
France. Bronze, Hirotaka Okada, Japan; Bronze, Nicolas Gill, Canada. 
 Modern Pentathlon 

Individual - Gold, Arkadiusz Skrzypaszek, Poland. Silver, Attila Mizser,
Hungary. Bronze, Edouard Zenovka, Unified Team. 

Team - Gold, Poland. Silver, Unified Team. Bronze, Italy. 
 Shooting 

Men's Free Rifle - Gold, Lee Eun-Chul, South Korea. Silver, Harald Stenvaag,
Norway. Bronze, Stevan Pletikosic, Independent. 
 Swimming 

Women's 100-meter Breaststroke - Gold, Elena Roudkovskaia, Unified Team.
Silver, Anita L Nall, United States. Bronze, Samantha Linette Riley, Australia.

Men's 4x100-meter Freestyle Relay - Gold, United States. Silver, Unified Team.
Bronze, Germany. 

Women's 100-meter Butterfly - Gold, Qian Hong, China. Silver, Christine Ahmann-
Leighton, United States. Bronze, Catherine Plewinski, France. 

Men's 400-meter Freestyle - Gold, Evgeni Sadovyi, United Team. Silver, Kieren
Perkins, Australia. Bronze, Anders Holmertz, Sweden. 

Men's 200-meter Breaststroke - Gold, Mike Barrowman, United States. Silver,
Norbert Rozsa, Hungary. Bronze, Nick Gillingham, Britain. 
 Weightlifting 

67.5 Kilgrams - Gold, Israel Militossian, Unified Team. Silver, Yoto Vassilev
Yotov, Bulgaria. Bronze, Andreas Behm, Germany. 



=END=
From: x87arghavani@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: help needed on replying a message
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:07:18 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hello "Hamvatanan";
Can any one tell me how I can reply a message on SCI and at the same time 
have it posted on our newsgroup. Every time I try to reply a message it is
only sent to the person that the message came from and it is not posted in the
newsgroup. Please show me how to pst, that is post, a message in the newsgro.

Thanks 
 Sincerely
Mohsen!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Cafe Borrone (was Re: What to read at sci)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 09:38:45 GMT

bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>
>ghAbeli nadAsht, amoo joon.  You're welcome.  You see I was at Cafe Barrone 
>just around the corner of where I live to meet the British Intelligent Service
>Agent to get further instructions about this big topic at SCI.  For your
>information Cafe Barrone is a very popular cafe that has attracted a lot of
>people from different walks of life around here.  It's just like your own
>ghahveh khooneh. 

Sheeeeesh! AghA Hooshyar, sedAsho dar nayAr! Our Cafe Borrone might
just be a bit better than mash yadollah's ghahveh khooneh. I'm not
sure if amoo's ghahveh khooneh can attract the same kind of crowd as
Cafe Borrone does night in and night out (approved by Ahmad AghA :-).

>Regards,
>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>bavafa@netcom.com
>(415) 324-1055

AghA, cherA pAs nemidee?    :-)

    --mack

--
For as long as I know how to love, I know I'll stay alive.
I've got all my life to live, I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive, I will survive.          --Gloria Gaynor
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