From: abulsari@abo.fi (Abhay Bulsari VT)
Subject: Re: Vegetarians or not vegetarians?
Organization: Abo Akademi University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:23:06 GMT

In article <BzDn18.Kps@ra.nrl.navy.mil> karpen@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Judy Karpen) writes:
>Sorry, Donata, but I don't see why it's necessary to know whether someone
>is a vegetarian BEFORE you can read (or evaluate) their post. Why is that
>any different than racism, or sexism, or the like? Try substituting the
>word "woman" or "black" for "vegetarian" in your post and see how it sounds.

Imagine a group for women where one or two men come and shout "Women
are silly inferior creatures." Substitute the word vegetarians for
women and others for men.

>This is the kind of "circle the wagons" thinking that spawns silliness like
>Abhay Bulsari's list of participants (perhaps you should email him for a 
>copy, I'm sure he'd be happy to send it to you --- caveat emptor, however, as

Here it is if you missed it :

Version 14

          ****** Rec.food.veg - List of participants ********

           Additions/Deletions/Corrections can be sent to me

This list  is especially  for newcomers.   There is  nothing  official
about  this list.  It  originated from  a desire by  some  readers  of
rec.food.veg to know  who the main contributors to the newsgroup were,
where  they  stood  on issues related to vegetarianism, and  any other
background  they  cared  to  offer.  With  the  continued  (or  rather
increasing number of) requests, this may have to posted more often.


Category 0 : Omnivores 

Rich Young	
Steve Dyer	
Ted Feuerbach	interested in vegetarianism issues
Dan Abel
David Edwards   eats vegetarian food 60 % of the time
Bill Silvert	likes salsa on Greek salad
Nick Youd       only eats fish sometimes, otherwise vegetarian
Tim Rigg	a hunter and almost vegetarian


Category 0, moving to 1

Chris Roberts   trying to become vegetarian for health reasons, 
                but ethical and ecological concerns are becoming 
                more important.  Find rec.food.veg interesting
                and supportive.
Craig Jamieson	insane radical anarchist, might be vegetarian, at least
		has the tendencies
Hans Johnsen	will soon get into category 1, not interested 
                in reading postings from omnivores
Karleen Davis	trying to go vegetarian for health and environment,
		with some ethical sympathies; any children will be
		raised vegetarian.  Waiting for the no-meat patty!


Category 1 : Vegetarians and vegans (If you want to learn about 
                vegetarianism, ask them) This category has been
                increasing fast, which reflects the growing number
                of vegetarians showing interest in rec.food.veg

Michael Traub	the single most important contributor to r.f.v. until recently.
		His postings will be repeated for a long time to come. 
		 Now a legend.
Ted Altar	another extremely valuable contributor to r.f.v.; well
		 informed and well read. Just came out of hiding. 
Tara McDermott  source of recipes
Zeke Koch       source of great recipes, vegan 
Siva Prasad	collected valuable postings on rec.food.veg
Abhay Bulsari	vegetarian, now almost vegan partly due to the influence
			 of Michael Traub and rec.food.veg
Charles van Duren
George Clark	vegetarian, dislikes alternative medicine
Tom Swiss	
Anne J. R. Nield	informative
Andrew Parkes
Roy D'Souza	vegan for all the right reasons, interested in Hatha Yoga
			 and Ayurveda, turned vegan partly due to the
			 influence of rec.food.veg
Jane Deering	
Jen Sutton	vegan for the last 1.5 years, vegetarian for over 10 years,
		expert on surviving in college cafetarias and kitchenless dorms
Eric Townsend
Drew Corrigan   follows vegetarian diet mainly for health reasons, but also
                out of ethical and environmental concerns
Robbie Felix	vegetarian for health reasons
Roger Adams	
Frank Kuan	vegan since 1988 for ethical reasons, age 23, software engr.
Ferrell Wheeler	vegan for ethical reasons
Richard Tanson  vegetarian for ethical reasons, trying to become more vegan. 
                	Interested in yoga, ayurveda, etc. Follows Sivananda
			group, though living beyond purview in Virginia.
Robbin Huls	vegetarian, trying to become a vegan
Dilip Barman    vegetarian
Geraint Edwards	vegan since 1985 for ethical reasons 
Andrew McMichael	hates arguments, good source for Chinese recipes
Melanie Dresser vegetarian (+eggs) for 33 years (life-long) for health reasons
Peter Mason	vegetarian (+eggs) who thinks that Michael, Ted, Rich and
			 Steve make good posts at times and who thinks
			 that anyone who thinks eating meat is harmless 
			 should go live in the third world for a while.
David A. Bader	concerned human, vegetarian/striving to be a vegan
		environment conscious, health conscious, peace-loving
		interested in animal rights
David McWade	vegan, former activist tired of the other side
Christine Code	vegan, source of good suggestions and recipes
Paul Houtz	vegan for over two years and really likes Ted's and Michael's
			postings, wishes to see Michael in print, even if via
			Abhay
Lisa Corsetti 	vegetarian, interested in animal rights, getting closer to
			 being a vegan
Damien Ryan	can tell you all about zucchinis and what to do with them
Andrea Shettle  informative
Stephen Guthrie	wondering how to remain vegetarian in Sausageland (Germany)
Amy Cobb 	vegetarian
Warwick Allison vegetarian since infant (1970)
David Jordan	vegan for 12 months
Tom Molnar	vegan for health and fitness reasons
Jean Reese	vegetarian, becoming a vegan
Lucie Melahn    new vegetarian (+eggs), interested in recipes, allergic
		 to eggplant, zoology graduate student
Debbie Schwartz	source of recipes
Mike Cooper	vegetarian (+eggs), becoming a vegan
Deanna Bergstrom
John Trivelli
David Sternlight	informative

Category 1A : Vegetarians who don't post often

Joel Burton	vegan, interested in quick recipes, interested in animal rights
Therese Baumberger	strong supporter of Traub and wish he would post,
			 vegetarian (+eggs)
Deirdre McClure	5 years vegetarian, switching now to vegan after losing 100 lb
Patricia Rathbone	vegetarian since 1977, vegan at home, hosts monthly
			 vegetarian potluck in Albuquerque, USA
Lucie Levesque	vegetarian
Paul Danckaert	vegetarian for 3 years, interested in quick and 
				 easy recipes
Ruchira Datta	vegetarian since 1982 for religious reasons
Elizabeth from Utah	
Shawn Allen	vegetarian


Category 2 : Unknown 

Erik Gravil
David Scheim	
Jack Campin	

Please excuse my spelling mistakes  and correct  them.  Please let  me
know where your entry should be, if wrong.  If you are not listed, let
me know. Also tell me what to write about you.  Thanks.

A  footnote about  eggs  and vegetarianism : I  don't include  eggs in
vegetarianism. Different adjectives for vegetarianism leads  to people
asking you if you  can eat fish.  FAQ is not my  gospel.  The majority
argument does not impress me.

With regards,

A. Bulsari
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg