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From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: Pt. BIRJU MAHARAJ in N.America
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:43:57 GMT


Pandit Birju Maharaj along with his company will be touring North America
for the months of June and July, 1993. If you would like to organise a
performance, workshops, lecture-demonstrations and/or master classes
of Kathak Dance, Tabla, and vocal music, please contact :

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
c/o Rita Mitra Mustaphi
5444 Orchard Avenue No.
Crystal, MN, 55429

Ph # : (612)537-8291

			Pandit Birju Maharaj
			****** ***** *******

Pandit Birju Maharaj is the recipient of "Padma Vibhushan" - the highest
Presidential Award for achievements. He is a master choreographer, renowned
composer, vocalist and percussionist. He represents the seventh generation
of hereditary storytelling dancers. He was the invited choregrapher at the
American Dance Festival in 1991.

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc., Crystal, MN, will arrange for a grand tour of
the dance master along with his company of dancers and musicians.

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From: kamala@npac.syr.edu (Kamala Anupindi)
Subject: Lyrics for JnAnamosaGarAdha
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 09:16:06 EST

The lyrics for Jnanamosagarada are :

Pal:   Jnanamosagarada ! GaruDaGamana ! vadha ?     (jnanamu)
Anu:   nee naamamuche naa madhi neirmalamainadhi    (jnanamu)

Cha:   paratmuDu jeevatmuDu padhunalugu lOkamulu
       narakinnara kimpurushulu nAradhadhi munulu
       paripoorNa ! nishkalanka ! niravaDHi sukhadAyaka
       vara tyAGarAjArchita ! vAramy tAnane         (jnanamu)

------------------

Kamala Anupindi

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Carnatic CDs (mail order)
From: sriram@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 26 Dec 92 14:04:13 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

I have been accumulating almost all Carnatic CDs that I can get hold
of (exceptions - I dont buy kunnakkudi, L. Subra/L. Shankar and the
recent S. Janaki release; hey, I have a right to an opinion).
I have had good experience with Asmara CD House.
Srimathi's is pretty ok too, though prices tend to be a shade
higher than Asmara. As for catalogs, Asmara has really done an
outstanding job and their catalog is definitely worth the $3 they
want for it. At last count, Carnatic CD releases numbered a little
over 100. E-mail me if you want specifics on any particular release
(and I will reply as time permits; response time will be a function of the
level of ongoing academic activities).

Sriram.

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: seeta@eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju UdayaBhaskar Sarma)
Subject: ...... recommendation -2 ......
Reply-To: seeta@eng.wayne.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:59:41 GMT


OOps ! forgot to mention that I also would greatly appreciate some
indicators about who plays better, if someone decides to be brave about it!

I also distinctly recall, the name ``chinna moulaana' being taken up whenever
naadaswaram recitals were concerned, especially among telugu speaking people...
  Am I mistaken...?

lastly, I remember seeing a OLD BW movie on TV, about a famous love story between a naa[gd]aswaram
player and a temple/court dancer, played by sivaji ganesan and jayalalita (?).
Anyone care to reply as to who that famous player was...?  Been a long time since
I saw the movie...

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)


Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: aravind@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (rangarajan.aravind)
Subject:  Re: Tyagaraja: Life and Lyrics
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 13:51:17 GMT
Keywords:  clarification



In article <yg52hha@rpi.edu>, mccomt@aix.rpi.edu (Todd Michel McComb) writes:
> In article <1993Jan2.030322.10912@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> rangarajan aravind writes:
> >>Folks! There is a new book on the famous composer-saint 
> >>Tyagaraja(1767-1847) by an American scholar of religious studies.
> >>Here are the details:
> 
> >>Title:		Tyagaraja: Life and Lyrics
> >>Author:		William J Jackson
> >>Published:	Delhi, Oxford University Press, 1991
> >>Description:	394 pages, <4>p of plates, 23 cm
> >>ISBN:		0195628128
> >>LC # :		ML410.T98 J14 1991
> 
> >>saint's life and the socio-cultural context in which the 
> >>great composer's work was born. 
> >>It also includes a translation of about 180 compositions.
> 
> Thanks for the reposted reference.  Does this translation of compositions
> include musical notation, or lyrics (and ragas, I assume) only?
> 
> T. M. McComb
> 

 The book does not contain any musical notation.  Only the raaga and tala
 of each translated krithi are mentioned.
 
 The price of the book is $24.95.  Shipping is extra.

 Regards,

 Aravind
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: vaidhyan@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramesh Vaidhyanathan)
Subject: Ragas of `Thiruppavai' (Tamil) Songs
Keywords: Tamil, carnatic
Reply-To: vaidhyan@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:53:13 GMT

Hello Netters:

I request you to e-mail me the carnatic ragas of the
thirty `Thiruppavai' (Tamil) Songs by `Andal'. Please
e-mail this info. to me, since I do not read this news
group.

Thanks in advance.

-Ramesh Vaidhyanathan.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: RTP, Anulomam, Pratilomam, Vilomam
From: sriram@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 26 Dec 92 13:52:32 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

I have been confused by some recent postings of the fundas of RTP.
The specific issue is what is pratilomam and what is anulomam. As
per Prof. Sambamurthy, anulomam is retaining the taalam at the same
speed and changing the pace of the music to faster speeds (like
double speed). Pratilomam is the converse, i.e., singing at the 
same speed and reckoning the taalam at double speed etc. This is
opposite of what I was led to believe by two recent postings. In
addition, Prof. Sambamurthy says that singing the pallavi at slower
speeds while keeping the talam at the same speed is vilomam. As per
these descriptions, most of the pallavi renditions these days consist
of one vilomam and one (sometimes more) anulomam demonstration. I have
never seen a demonstration of pratilomam (of course, one can only see it
since the talam is usually not picked up in recorded music). Also, as
for the retention of eduppu vs. arudi, the learned professor says that
IF the pallavi is not of sama eduppu, THEN preference should be given to
retaining the arudi rather than the eduppu during these exercises. Of course,
due to the change in speed, the only control over this is at the point
where the speed is switched over. Thus, one has to change speeds not
at the beginning of the pallavi but at the arudi point. I believe a
majority of pallavi renditions I have heard have followed this rule
(I can give specific examples, if anyone wants).

Sriram.
From: raj@tandem.com (Raj Ganesan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: ...... recommendation -2 ......
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:45:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: tandem.1992Dec30.174512.20060
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA

the movie is "Thillaana Mohanaambaal" the actors were
Padmini and Sivaji Ganesan.
From: gb29+@andrew.cmu.edu (Guntur N Balaji)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Kriti and Keertana
Date: 29 Dec 92 10:54:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YfE=gPW00XsE0eT0h1
Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi Netters,

The question may sound silly.  But I am really serious.
Is there any difference between a Kriti and a Keertana.
Or are both of them one and the same ?

Regards,

Balaji/...
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: ss51@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Sundaram Sridharan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: todi and punnagavarali
Date: 3 Jan 93 15:33:33 GMT
Organization: Columbia University


can someone explain to me the relative positions of srutis in todi and
punnagavarali? what are these so called madhyamam based ragas anyway?

SS
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: srini@engin.umich.edu (Srinivasan Pichumani)
Subject: This and that -- info on CDs, books(was Re: Tyagaraja: Life and Lyrics)
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 14:08:47 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: clarification

Todd, here are replies to some of your questions:

Regarding the CD where Balachander plays CakravAkam rAgam,tAnam, and
the TyAgarAja kriti "suguNamulE" -- as I mentioned earlier, it is a re-issue
of a DENON LP made in 1975, using the then available digital recording 
technology. (DENON made about 25 or so LPs, I think, of various musical
styles from around the world -- I think Balachander's was the only one 
representative of the Carnatic tradition; the sleevenotes for these LPs
even shows what now looks a quaint picture of the recording/mixing/mastering
schemes)
My friend gave me a copy of this CD on cassette tape and his notes are the
following:
		DENON N.9.21 (CD)
		Artistes: Balachander(vINa),MannArgudi Easvaran(mridangam)
			and T.H.Vinayakaram(ghatam)

Regarding Prof.Jackson's book, Aravind's post says it all -- there is no
musical notation. Prof.Jackson is certainly more a religious studies scholar
than an ethnomusicologist.

Regarding Smt.Vidya Shankar's book, here is the relevant info:
		Author: Shankar, Vidya
		Title: Shyama Sastry's compositions
		LC#: M1808.S98 1979
It was earlier published as 3 slim volumes -- 8.5x11x1 inches all put together.
Now it is available as a single bound volume for about Rs.200/- from 
	Higginbothams Ltd, 165 Mount Rd, Madras-600002
No sales agents in foreign countries are is mentioned in the book. 
You should try to get this book via Interlibrary loan from universities around
U.S. The notation given in this book follows the Carnatic music notation
standardized by Subbarama Dikshitar in his SangIta SampradAya pradarshini.

There is yet another book called
	Sacred Songs of India
	by Emmie Te Nijenhuis and Sanjukta Gupta
Part I of this book has musicological&religious analyses, Text and translation
of the KamalAmbA navAvarna kritis of MuttusvAmi dIkShitar (certainly one of
the most glorious set of compositions in Carnatic music, and very important
compositions from a Tantric lore perspective)
Part II of this book will be useful to you if you are knowledgeable in
staff notation. The musicologist, Emmie te Nijenhuis, (the co-author Ms.Gupta
is a renowned Tantric scholar), has given numerous music examples in staff
notation, and has transliterated the notation of this set of kritis from
Carnatic music notation to staff notation with extensions.

Published 1987 by Amadeus Verlag, and printed in Switzerland, this book's 
LC# is ML410.M992 N69 1987 v1-2, and ISBN # is 3-905049-36-8; this book is
available in many Universities like Princeton, NorthWestern, UT Austin, and 
U of M (don't even try to buy the book -- it costs around $200/- and has to
be ordered from Europe)

-Srini.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: umeshmo@microsoft.com (Umesh Mokate)
Subject: Re: Bhatkhande
Date: 28 Dec 92 02:17:40 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: USA
Keywords: Bhatkhande; musicology



In article <1992Dec23.202528.25092@u.washington.edu> gangolli@frobenius.math.washington.edu (Ramesh Gangolli) writes:
>
>
>
>
>Dear Fellow Netters,
>
>I am posting the Bhatkhande article as promised. It appeared originally in
>Bansuri, a journal published by Ragamala Performing Arts of Canada, some
>years ago. It has been reprinted by a couple of  literary/musical review
>magazines in India since its first appearance. I would welcome comments and
>or corrections.
>
>
>Ramesh Gangolli.
>
>P.S. the footnotes are segregated at the end of the article.
>**************************************************************************** 
>
>
>

[article deleted]

The article indeed gave many of us a lot of information which we didn't know.
Frankly I did not like that you sacrificed some material on the grounds of
lack of space. My only comment is that there is no space resctriction on the
net. If you feel that the article is getting too big than you thought, you can 
break it and post in different parts rather than cutting short the discussion. 
If we are going to sacrifice such material for "lack of space", what better 
usuage of network could be?

Thanks.

Umesh...

ps: Because in the original post the follow-up line did not contain 
    name of this group, other readers may have had some problems in 
    replying to it.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: Pandit Birju Maharaj visiting N. America
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:30:26 GMT



Pandit Birju Maharaj along with his company will be touring North America
for the months of June and July, 1993. If you would like to organise a
performance, workshops, lecture-demonstrations and/or master classes
of Kathak Dance, Tabla, and vocal music, please contact :

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
c/o Rita Mitra Mustaphi
5444 Orchard Avenue No.
Crystal, MN, 55429

Ph # : (612)537-8291

			Pandit Birju Maharaj
			****** ***** *******

Pandit Birju Maharaj is the recipient of "Padma Vibhushan" - the highest
Presidential Award for achievements. He is a master choreographer, renowned
composer, vocalist and percussionist. He represents the seventh generation
of hereditary storytelling dancers. He was the invited choregrapher at the
American Dance Festival in 1991.

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc., Crystal, MN, will arrange for a grand tour of
the dance master along with his company of dancers and musicians.

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From: rahul@osceola.cs.ucf.edu (Rahul Kasralikar )
Subject: Testing ...
Organization: University of Central Florida
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:19:56 GMT

This is just a test ... Please, ignore!!
-Rahul@ucf
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: mccomt@aix.rpi.edu (Todd Michel McComb)
Subject: Re: Prof. Jackson, "Tyagaraja: Life and Lyrics"
Keywords: biography, translation
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:33:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.030322.10912@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> rangarajan aravind writes:
>>Folks! There is a new book on the famous composer-saint 
>>Tyagaraja(1767-1847) by an American scholar of religious studies.
>>Here are the details:

>>Title:		Tyagaraja: Life and Lyrics
>>Author:		William J Jackson
>>Published:	Delhi, Oxford University Press, 1991
>>Description:	394 pages, <4>p of plates, 23 cm
>>ISBN:		0195628128
>>LC # :		ML410.T98 J14 1991

>>saint's life and the socio-cultural context in which the 
>>great composer's work was born. 
>>It also includes a translation of about 180 compositions.

Thanks for the reposted reference.  Does this translation of compositions
include musical notation, or lyrics (and ragas, I assume) only?

T. M. McComb

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: rtanson@nyx.cs.du.edu (richard tanson)
Subject: Indian music in VA??
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:06:11 GMT


anyone know of Indian music concerts, societies, etc in Virginia. Anything
Indian in this state would be of interest. Can e-mail to
tanson.r@fs.library.wlu.edu  Thanks. Om Shanti

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: tmohan@iastate.edu (Thyagarajan Mohan)
Subject: Re: Query -- dEvi brOvA  samayammidE
Keywords: lyrics  story  dEvi brOvA
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:08:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.151429.1@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> Mohan Krishnamoorthy <mohan@mel.dms.csiro.au> writes:


>This is a rather wonderful song called dEvi brOvA samayammidE in rAgA
>chintAmani (set to Adi tAlA).  This song is a bit strange in the sense
>that it has no anupallavi.  It has a very moving pallavi followed
>straight by 3 charanamms.
>  I don't think any of the great composers have composed in this rAgam.
>If I am wrong, I'd sure like to know.  In any case, this is a very rare
>rAgam!  Here again, if anyone is aware of any other kirtanais in this
>rAgam, I'd love to know.
      This raagam is known only from Sastry;one of the three raagaas he created
The other two are `kalkata' and `maanji'.
>
>ShyAmA ShAstri must have been in an extremely agitated state of mind
>when he composed this extempore, for he forgot to compose the anu
>pallavi!
    It's common to sing devotional songs without `anupallavi'.Most of the 
`utsava sampradaya keerthanaas' of St.Thyagaraja are like this;so also of
Purandara Dasa.Muthuswami Dikshithar has composed a lot of keerthanaas like 
this.The `charaNams' are called as`samashti charaNams'.The songs like this are
called generally as `keerthanaas'rather to `krithis'.

   During the competition,Kesavaiaah sang a `pallavi'in `simhanandhana thaaLa',
a very simple thaaLa with just 128 aksharaas,one in the `108 thaaLa' group.
Sastry,without much problem grasped the pallavi and reproduced that.For his 
turn he sang a pallavi in `sarabhanandhana thaaLa',another simple thaaLa with 
79(what a prime number!)aksharaas.This thaaLa is also known only from him.
Kesavaiaah couldn't reproduce this pallavi composed by Sastry;hence got 
defeated.This thaaLa seems a bearing on the Hindu Myth that `sarabham'(Lord 
Shiva)tamed/conquered (nara)`simham'(Lord Vishnu).
   
    Shyama Sastry's songs are celebrated for his `thaaLaas'.Only persons with 
remarkable sense of `laya' alone dare to render his songs elaborately.
  
     This raagaa `chinthaamaNi' is a tricky baashaanga raagaa with aaroehaNam
and avaroehaNam as:
     
      sa ri pa ma pa dha* ni sa     sa ni dha pa ma ri ga sa.

     *  chathusruthi dhaivatham.
    
      This is a janyam of 56th maeLa shanmukhapriya.The song has been rendered
beautifully by KVN and MS according to this.But Dr.Balamurali rendered in a
different style close to `poornvi kalyaaNi'still calling as `chinthaamaNi'.
Let me close with this and leave lyrics to Srinivasan.

MOHAN

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc,alt.culture.karnataka
From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: Pt. Birju Maharaj in N.America
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:20:22 GMT



Pandit Birju Maharaj along with his company will be touring North America
for the months of June and July, 1993. If you would like to organise a
performance, workshops, lecture-demonstrations and/or master classes
of Kathak Dance, Tabla, and vocal music, please contact :

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
c/o Rita Mitra Mustaphi
5444 Orchard Avenue No.
Crystal, MN, 55429

Ph # : (612)537-8291

			Pandit Birju Maharaj
			****** ***** *******

Pandit Birju Maharaj is the recipient of "Padma Vibhushan" - the highest
Presidential Award for achievements. He is a master choreographer, renowned
composer, vocalist and percussionist. He represents the seventh generation
of hereditary storytelling dancers. He was the invited choregrapher at the
American Dance Festival in 1991.

Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc., Crystal, MN, will arrange for a grand tour of
the dance master along with his company of dancers and musicians.

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From: seeta@eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju UdayaBhaskar Sarma)
Subject: ..... recommendations ...
Reply-To: seeta@eng.wayne.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:54:21 GMT


Could someone advice me on how to spend an extra $15 still lingering in my wallet
after the holiday shopping :-

I am wondering which of 

	sri.sheikh chinna moulaana (naagaswaram)
and
	sri.naamagiri_pETTai krishnan  (naagaswaram)

would be more rigidly classical...  I saw a whole bunch of sri.naamagiripETTai krishnan's
CDs in the list posted by sriram.  But thought I might also ask the authorities here...
Please do consider the fact, that I have to choose only one :-  a CD costs $15...

thanx a lot... (email or replies-on-net are equally fine)...

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)



P.S.  :-  Are there two different instruments called naa-g-aswaram & naa-d-aswaram?
	  Or are the two names (for the same instrument) attributable to
	  linguistic differences?  In Andhra I am close to pretty sure that
	  the word naa-d-aswaram is used universally...
From: mccomt@aix.rpi.edu (Todd Michel McComb)
Subject: Re: List of Carnatic CDs
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:04:27 GMT

In article <CDb=-vB@engin.umich.edu> Srinivasan Pichumani writes:
>I am not sure if you have this on the list, but there is
>one more CD of Balachander playing just the rAga 
>	cakravAkam, tAnam, and the kriti "suguNamulE" 
>on the DENON label; it is a re-issue from a record made in 
>the 70s.

You have mentioned this disc before, but I have never seen it.  Do
you know where one might buy it?

T. M. McComb
From: cco.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Keeravani and Keeranavali
Date: 31 Dec 1992 05:26:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: krusty.caltech.edu
Originator: vidya@krusty

In article <1992Dec30.120703@IASTATE.EDU> sunder@IASTATE.EDU (Sunder B  
Athreya) writes:
- 
- Could someone characterize the differences between the Ragas Keeravani  
and
- Keranavali for me. I have been listening to the Saint Tygaraja's  
composition
- Eti-yochanalu the last few days and have been unable to nail down what
- distinguishes it from Keeravani. Thanks to anyone who can shed some  
light on
- this.
-   Sunder

Keeranavali is a janya of Keeravani. Keeravani is the 21st Melakarta,  
while Keeranavali has srgmpdns - spmgrs as arohana and avarohana. In Eti  
Yochanalu, the song begins on s p on the descent. One good rendition of  
this kriti is by Lalgudi on a set of cassettes called  Pallavi cassettes,  
in which he emphasizes the s p prayoga pretty nicely during the  
swaraprastara. 

S.Vidyasankar