From: glennc@bitstream.com (Glenn Corwin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Rules Q's
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:43:17 GMT
Reply-To: glennc@bitstream.com
Organization: Bitstream Inc., Cambridge, MA

In article <24813@galaxy.ucr.edu>, rogue@ucrengr.ucr.edu (ed zeamba) writes:
: the FAQ said it is leagal to "attack" a served ball from the 
: back players.  What does this mean?  block? Spike?

Since you are from California, I'll assume you are asking about USVBA rules (a
few organizations have some rules differences, which the FAQ does not detail
but tells you where to get the info).

It is illegal to attack (spike) or block a served ball. I disageree with FAQ
#20. It seems to indicate that it is legal for back-row players to spike a
serve. IMHO this is incorrect. It is ALWAYS illegal to spike a serve. Maybe
what the FAQ should have said was that the ball may be hit back over the net
once it has dropped below the top of the net (not completely above it). That's
legal for any player (front or back).

: what is a"2-hand over-head set"  is that where your hands are
: open and apart (set?) or togeather?
: Now this hit is leagal indoors and illegal outdoors?
: What about front row players if its "legal" on a serve?

Setting with open hands (fingertips) is legal everywhere and anytime. However,
it must be executed cleanly. The ball cannot be held or carried. On a hard
driven hit, this is extremely difficult and will usually be called a carry. The
same goes for a serve. It isn't necessarily a carry, but more likely than not,
on a hard serve, the ball will stick in the player's hands.

Outdoors, hand sets (not on receiving the ball) seem to be called more often.
Maybe the funky shape of outdoor balls makes it harder to set cleanly (?).
 
: Ok, if its legal (accordinf to the FAQ) to hit the ball with 2 separated
: fists on the First attempt, then is it legal on 2nd 3rd hits?
: question #47 would seem to make no differentiation between hits
: (about pass/hit) with both hands simultaneuosly on any attempt?
: I'm confused...

It is legal to hit the ball with two separated fists on the 1st attempt (as
long as it is ONE attempt). This is from Rule 8, Article 5 "Successive
Contacts" (see FAQ #44). In all other cases, double hits are illegal. This does
not mean that hitting the ball with two separated fists is always a double hit.
As long as it hits both fists simultaneously (and isn't held), it is perfectly
legal (albeit, difficult to do).

FAQ #47 refers to the so-called "Beach Digs" which are legal outdoors (but not
indoors). This shouldn't be confused with the Successive Contacts rule.

: Can you reach over net to block an oncomming ball in anticipation
: of its flight over the net if there is no set/hitter under it, on
: the other team's 1st, 2nd or 3rd hit?

Yes. If there is no player in a position to play the ball (in the referee's
opinion), you may block a ball that would cross the net (Rule 8, Article 14, f
(3)) or is falling near the net (R 8, A 14, f (4)). If it clearly and attack
hit (third hit is ALWAYS an attack hit), you may reach over to block it
regardless of the positions of the attacking players.
 
: rogue@ucrengr.ucr.edu		UC Riverside -- home of the Guildsman


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From: taj@hpcuhc.cup.hp.com (Tom Jack)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:42:08 GMT
Subject: Sunnyvale, CA - Volleyball Classes
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino