From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: suggestions for suppliers.... AND ...
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Aug17.073323.18041@lester.appstate.edu>, HARTTREE@vax1.elon.edu (Matthew Harttree) writes...
#In the quest for the end to the tight-budget-big-wishes battle:

	Is this the battle beyond the stars?  The battle beyond the heavens?
	The battle of good vs. evil?  (Good v. Evil for you lawyer types)

#A SURVEY OF SORTS:

	I prefer the bubble, although sometimes the random-sort is better.
	So long as it consumes more CPU than the MUMPS stuff, I feel good.

#Who do you use for Refurbished Digital Products?
 ^^^
	That should be WHOM, and I think Ken Olsen is about as refurbished
	a Digital person as you can get.

#What type/model of character termninal do you utilize the most at your site?

	I utilize the most out of the Sperry Univac console that keeps
	all the papers from flying around in the HUMONGOUS wind generated
	by the air conditioning that keeps up with the heat from the HOT
	Tucson sunshine (and the Sperry console).

#Have you had success with Refurbished Products? (esp. terminals)

	I've had lots of success with refurbished chairs, a refurbished
	end table, and even a refurbished cordless telephone.  None of
	my terminals have extrasensory perception tho so I can't help you.

#_________________________________________________________________________

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 Do those two lines cancel each other out?

#Thanks!

	You're welcome!  (Or your-welcome for the illiterately minded)

#I am trying to find a supplier/successful way to get a hold of low cost 
#terminals.

	Shoot.  I can let you have my Sperry console for $10.

#The prices our decCritter has offered me (with educational discount no less)

	You get an educational discount NO less?  We get the one with
	the less.  It's much cheaper.  Ask your salesperson to get you
	the less.

#are out of my league.

	National?  American?  Wrestling?  Softball?

#With many people converting to more expensive X based terminals I am 
#guessing that there may be a good size discount market for used vt200/300 
#terms out there!???! 

	You should display more confidence.  Never say "I'm guessing...???"
	Say "I'm guessing...!!!" It shows bravado!  Very important for 
	programmers these days to have BRAVADO = TRUE instead of false
	bravado...

#Our Library has installed several WYSE brand terminals with much success.

	Yes, installing terminals is a successful venture!  But do they work...

#I myself am partial to DEC for nostalgic reasons

	Really?  I get my nostalgic reasons from Hewlett Packard.  I
	know they're not the best... but I do it for nostalgic purposes.

#but after using a WYSE I am open to suggestions???

	If after using WYSE you're open to suggestions but before using
	them you weren't, how did you get the suggestion to start using
	WYSE?  Who shaves you if you don't shave yourself?  Are the odds
	the same if a bum walks on stage after Monty has opened one of
	the doors?  Are those really Vanna's teeth?  Hi Steve!

#!!!!!!!!SIDE QUESTION

	Hmmm, you should offset it more.  It's almost in the middle.

#I may have asked this before but.....

	No matter!  Ask it again!  Those who didn't know the first time
	won't mind seeing your questions again!

#We are in the process of creating groups of local mailing lists.  This 
#provides users with common needs (cs faculty) for example to post to a 
#local list.  I am thinking of expanding on this idea and offering services 
#based on membership in groups.  Example: STAFF would have access to minutes 
#of faculty discussion groups.  

	This is bad.  If STAFF had access to faculty minutes, then they
	might get jealous of what faculty gets away with, don't you think?

#Is there a way (or utility/program) to create a list of users who hold the 
#same identifier.  I have looked at an elderly copy of WHO written by a guy 
#at xerox in palo alto but it falls short of doing this.  

	Wow!  Did you try the SHOW/IDENTIFIER/FULL command in Authorize?

#ANY HELP and ->NICE<- suggestions would be appreciated!!
                ^^^^
	I don't do DECnet protocols on info-vax.

#Thanks for your time,

	Sure!

#Matt
#(harttree@vax1.elon.edu)
# 
#->the views expressed are my own. No one else could even come close to 
#even thinking this mess up! 

	I would!

	Ehud

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