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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:08:41 EDT
Reply-To:     Andrew Martin <MARTIN.A@FS.REID.WLU.EDU>
From:         Andrew Martin <MARTIN.A@FS.REID.WLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Left-handed mice?

Hi
Under windows You can switch the setup for the mouse buttons
therefore allowing a lefthanded person to work with a standard mouse
Andy :-)
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 01:25:05 CST
Reply-To:     Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
From:         Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Internal error message

I have a IBM PM 4 file that used to work fine, but now when I try to open
it I get the error message: Internal Error--Bad Table Index.  Well, it's
a small and simple little file and certainly doesn't contain any tables.
Any idea about what causes this, or how to get around it?

MARC BECKER
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
           MABECKER@UKANVM (BITNET)
           MARC@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (INTERNET)
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:13:00 MST
Reply-To:     Chris Zagar <ZAGAR@MARICOPA.BITNET>
From:         Chris Zagar <ZAGAR@MARICOPA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Perplexing problem with PageMaker 4.2 and LaserWriter IIg

His Mac is running system 7 with the second tuneup.  Originally, he was running
the print drivers that come with system 7.  When his LaserWriter IIg arrived,
I updated his system print drivers to those that came with the LaserWriter IIg.
I also applied the updated Aldus drivers for the LaserWriter IIg, but none
of this seems to work.  Unfortunately, Aldus hasn't proven to be helpful
either.  I also had him try the shift/command/P approach to printing, but
that didn't work either.

I remain at a loss, but appreciate all suggestions.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:02:53 -0500
Reply-To:     "(Kevin Unrue)" <ae415@YFN.YSU.EDU>
From:         "(Kevin Unrue)" <ae415@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      Ascii Export

I recently created a short document in PM 4.0.  I now have a need to
transfer that information to plain ol' ASCII for inclusion in a mail
message.  My question:  How do I export a PM story to a plain ASCII
file?

Thank you.
Kevin


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From: u1665462@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
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Subject: Re: IBM problems
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:53:24 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <1992Nov3.104237.1@cmcvx1.claremont.edu>, kincy@cmcvx1.claremont.edu writes:
> I have a few questions regarding pagemaker for the IBM - I cannot print
> Thumbnails or percentage enlargement / reductions. Does this have anything to
> do with Trutype / Postscript ?
> 
> Kincy Clark
> Production Editor
> Claremont McKenna Forum

It is my understanding that PM 4.0 prints thumbnails only to PostScript
printers. Same with enlargements/reductions: reason being that only PostScript
has easy scaling functions. 

Did you install the Adobe Type Manager that came with your PM? This handles
PostScript on HP II or III compatible laserprinters.

Sven

Zagala@sov_studs.unimelb.edu.au
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Subject: Re: You know what kind of night it's gonna be...
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:14:33 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1dfminINNerh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston) writes:
>  Oh, you're just mad because Wackerman has a happening gig with Mr. H.

huh?

>No one will be turning blue holding their breath waiting for you to hear
>this album (_Forty Reasons_; CMP CD 48, for those of you who don't mind
>taking a suggestion from "n.n."). We know how you are... we know how I am.

If you think that is what I _should_ be listening to, make me a tape and
send it to me.  But I don't have time to make anything in return to
trade, and there is no guarantee that I will even listen to it.  I sometimes
buy $100 of CDs a week, and don't always have time to listen to other
music.  Right now I have a busy schedule, I just got the Xenakis /
Arditti box, the Schoenberg Violin Concerto (36), and Boulez' new
recording of Le Sacre du Printemps.  I got to listen to it back to back
with his old recording, because I am going to hear it next month with
the CSO.  There are other things I have to bone up on, like the Left
Hand Concerto, Agon, and Et Exspecto.  I am going to see those works
next month, and want to be prepared.  That don't leave much room for
jazz, and I got the Braxton/Willisau 4 CD set, a new London Composer's 
Orchestra disc and the new Anthony Cox disc for that.  There would be no
guarantee that I wouldn't record over it before I listened to it.  But
that's a chance you would have to take.     )

>  Joey Baron, all right. That's constructive. What can you recommend by him 
>that might be relevant?

He is the drummer for Naked City.  He is on most all of the Bill Frisell
Band recordings.  Then there is Tim Berne's band.  Two titles of that
are Fractured Fairy Tales and Sanctified Dreams.  There is the crew of
Tim Berne, Hank Roberts, and Herb Robertson.  Anything by any of
them usually has Joey Baron.  He also has played straight ahead stuff, with Red
Rodney, Fred Hirsch, and John Scofield.

Jeff
From: voneltz@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Bob Eltze)
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Subject: Re: Styx
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:22:30 GMT
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RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM writes:

>Yeah, I've seen all of them on vinyl in Canada. Wish I had grabbed them at the
>time...Robert, what do you think of the ones you have? I doubt I'll find them
>in Toronto, but when I'm back in Montreal at Christmas I may stumble across
>them...

I really like Styx 2, Serpent and Miracles are ok and Styx 1 is my least
liked.  Styx 1 has some good songs on it but as a whole the album is a
little weak.
--
Robert Eltze
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:29:40 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Are you ready for the weekend?

Dearest AllMusicals...(I like that better than -kers)

        Well, off i go. As of 6:25pm CST I will be on my way to Binghamton,
NY, to see all the people who claim to miss me, but can't seem to free up
their schedules to pick me up at the airport....They aren't used to city
folk comin' to visit, I reckon....Anywho, I will be off the net for a few
days...'til Sun. nite....try not to send too much while I'm gone, OK? I
don't want to miss any good debates....Randy, I'll tell ev eryone you say
hello, OK?

Take care all, and don't take any wooden nickels...

Hasta lumbago...

Marsha "Where the beer and the canteloupe play" Ferziger
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:32:46 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Wonderful subway singers

On Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:35:49 CST Little Inquisitor said:
>Rushed home directly to my terminal to get this typed before I lose the glow of
> an excellent musical experience in the most unexpected of places: the subway.
>man sang back-up and the other was the main singer.  The latter had a very swee
>t soulful voice.  Fortunately, there was a delay in the train (about 15 min.) s
>o we were treated to an impromptu concert, and one of the best performances I'v
I'm envious we never get that sorta street thang here in B'ham, but IMHO that's
the real thing..heart felt music doing it cuz they love it the way it ought to
be. They probally deserve success far more than the dime-a-dozen acts that are
currently sucessful.....Sorry i missed it........L.W.
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Date: 9 Nov 92 11:27:58 GMT
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>>  Hosko (Vote for me and I'll set you free!) asks ...
>>
>>  However, has any heard _Songs of Freedom_ yet?

    Yes, a colleague of mine in the USA was willing and able enough to
    send me a copy, which I took possession of towards the end of last
    week, and I have to say it's a truly *excellent* set, covering the
    very early part of his career in the 60's, thru the commercial
    success of the 70's and early 80's.  From memory, it begins with
    his first-ever single ("Judge Me Not") on Disc 1, and finishes up
    with a superb live rendition of "Redemption Song" (taken from his
    last-ever concert in 1980) on Disc 4.

    In between, there are quite a few re-mixes and rarities to keep
    your toes tappin', and there's a thorough and interesting book to
    read to boot!

    The set is presented in a fold-out    =========================
    format as opposite, with ||           |           ||          |
    denoting the book's spine, and O      |           ||          |
    representing the position of each     |           ||          |
    disk.                                 |     O     ||     O    |
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                                          |           ||          |
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    10/10 or *****                        |           ||          |
                                          |           ||          |
                                          |           ||          |
                                          |     O     ||     O    |
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    I'd be glad to hear other opinions from folks who buy if after
    reading this post.

    - Dougie (in Scotland)
From: HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET (Paul Heroy)
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Subject: Fusion (Miles/Sharrock)
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:06:46 GMT
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On Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:53:00 CST Chuckrateez said:
>Sonia sez:
>>P.P.S. Demonic Chuckotronic: my teacher had listened to the Sharrock sampler
>>and his first words about it were: "Inspiring" --he really loved the stuff.
>>He said, "That guy plays from the heart to the ear."  I think we've got
>>another convert.
>
>   "From the heart to the ear" -- I can't think of a better way of putting
>that, and I think it applies equally well to your practice session you
>described above.  External pressures may have removed some of the obstacles
>that normally fall in that path.
>   P.S. -- Good work on the conversion, Fellow Minion of Sharrock.  :*)

I'm working on subverting a couple of young women here at work (musically,
though I won't complain if they bet subverted by me in more personal ways ;-),
and I gave one of 'em Seize the Rainbow since she's into grungy guitar based
stuff. I also gave her Jack Johnson and Al DiMeola's Casino - I'll see how
she reacts, next week (hopefully).

>on one cut (near the end of Yesternow, if memory serves).  _JJ_ is my
>alltime favorite electric Miles (though I am getting the feeling that I
>need to hear _Aghartha_ and _Pangea_)

Do so as soon as possible! I got my copy of Agharta last week, and couldn't
sit still while the first cut was playing. I haven't heard everything yet
(haven't played the 2nd disc, and it's now on loan to another subversion
project victim :-), but the first disc definitely has some tight grooves.
This stuff really showed me how lame the two 80's recordings from Miles I
have are - Under Arrest (suuuucks) & Tutu (not too bad, but...).

>, and _Ask The Ages_ is a good intro
>to Sharrock's playing in a jazz quartet setting.

Yeah, I also got this last week and have only heard enough to say that it's
definitely hot stuff. I plan to listen more this weekend, especially since
STR, JJ, and Agharta are out on loan (gotta get that under control!).

> (BTW, I've heard Sharrock
>talk about doing a recording of Coltrane tunes when the time is right --
>now wouldn't that be "the shit"!! (with apologies to Da Beer  ;*))

Hot damn! Do it soon do it soon do it soon puhleeeeeze!!! :-)

Paul Heroy
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:54:03 EST
From:         Chris Marshall <XP53@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Zappa, etc. part 2

Sonia

> > OMC:  We're building a practice room in my cellar.  What's a good cheap
> > source of sound insulation?
>
> Egg cartons, lottsa lottsa egg cartons--seriously!

And those cardboard things that apples come in ... put those over
blankets in the window wells (if you have them ...)

> Hey all youse---order I.N.#7 from the ROTCOD if you want to be cooler than
> cool.

Qu'est-que c'est ROTCOD?

Merci d'avance ...

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:50:19 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Madrigals...

Laura -

>        I was overseas for my junior year in St. Andrews, Scotland, and the
>Univ. had an a cappella group (women's) called the Dulcet Tones.  Only eight
>of us, and we weren't technically a cappella, cos one of our members
>occassionally played double base.  No tapes I'm afraid.  Wish we did have some!
>It was very low key, and zero $$$, so the only recording we could have made
>was off a portable recorder, which couldn't deal with the double bass.

Neato cooley wow!!! Sounds like an awesome experience! It's a shame no
tapes, but the memories will last you forever!


>        I collect a cappella tapes too, but don't have many (does that make
>sense?)  I've got the Franklin& Marshall women's group, some U. Delaware co-ed,
>   and incredibly poor recordings of the other two groups in St. Andrews.  Plus
>I've got the two groups here at Middlebury College where I'm at school now.
>        Lemme know if any of those sound of interest to ya, and I could get ya
>copies!
>

Damn, yes! I want the F&M and the Delaware tapes, definitely! I would love
to get the original CD's or cassetes, if possible, if you can tell me how -
if not, I'll take tapes of yours. I have the Mischords tape - "Carlos and
Charlees present....". Two of their songs ("Sincerely" and "Someday,
Someway") are on my compilations. I don't have anything else from the
Middlebury groups, so I want those too! Again, originals preferred, but
I'll do copies if I have to. We can work out a trade....I have lots of
stuff This is who I have and what i have of theirs...-

College groups:
Binghamton Crobys - all male, 2 albums
Harpur Harpeggios - all female, 2 albums
MIT Chorralaries - co-ed, 1 album
U of Rochester Yellow jackets - all male, 1 album
Columbia Kingsmen - all male, 1 album
Tufts Beelzebubs - all male, 1 album
Virginia Gentelmen - all male, 1 album

Professional Groups:
Take 6 (6 men)- 2 albums
The Nylons (4 men)- all 7 albums
The Bobs (3 men, 1 woman)- all 4 albums
Acme Vocals (4 men, 1 woman) - 1 album
Bobby McFerrin (pseudo a cappella) - 1 album
The Persuasions (4 men) - 1 album
Ladysmith Black mambazo (10 men) - 1 album

Compilations:
...a cappella favorites... - my own compilation with a smattering of the
above.
a cappella 2 - the sequel... - same as above
Modern A Cappella - Very new. See my previous posts.
Winter Invitational - Tufts Beelzebubs hosted a concert w/5 groups.

If you like, I can send you my "a cappella handout" that I send to people
that I copy my tape for, which includes fan club info, addresses of groups,
newsletter info, info about some groups, etc.

Let me know....
I really wanna trade with you!!!

Marsha
From: ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson)
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Date: 6 Nov 92 01:34:05 GMT
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>Apparently Bravery is confidence within a group!
>Daron

  And stupidity runs solo.

                        -Tim

p.s. and OMC:  Tull also used the lyrics "thick as a brick"
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From:         RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Styx

>>...I believe the first 2 albums were released on Wooden Nickel Records. I
>>started really liking Styx back in the _Grand Illusion_ days and I have never
>>ever anywhere seen _Styx_ or _Styx II_. The only thing I have from them is a
>>45
>>of "Lady." So good luck on finding them.

>The first 4 albums were released on Wooden Nickel Records.  They went out
>of print in the early to mid 80s.  I spent my high school years scrounging
>through bargan bins trying to find these, I eventually found them all except
>Man of Miracles.  Except for Styx 1, they have now been rereleased on CD,
>I don't know if they are available in any other format.

Yeah, I've seen all of them on vinyl in Canada. Wish I had grabbed them at the
time...Robert, what do you think of the ones you have? I doubt I'll find them
in Toronto, but when I'm back in Montreal at Christmas I may stumble across
them...

Bob T
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:42:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: so it goes

>From:         "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

>  Just so no one forgets, "So It Goes" ("And So It Goes"?) was written
>by Leonard Cohen, not that band with the tall skinny woman, Cementhead?
>(That's a joke, ok?)

Actually, I think Nick Lowe wrote "So It Goes".  The song performed
by Leonard Cohen and Concrete Blonde is "Everybody Knows" and was
written by Cohen.

Nice pun on the band name, though.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Subject:      name that tune

>From:         Mike masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>

>BTW, does anyone out there knows a song that has the refrain
>"sailing on a sunny (or Sunday) afternoon" in high pitched harmony, kinda
>like Neil Young?

I don't know if Ray Davies would like the Neil Young comparison, but
"Sunny Afternoon" by the Kinks might be the song you're looking for.

>While we're on the subject, there's this other tune that goes:
>"Those were the days, my friend   we thought they'd never end...."
>sung by a female folky singer,
>that I would like to know WHO did it.
>Really catchy melody from (I guess) the early 70s.

I'm sure you'll get lots of answers on this one: Mary Hopkins is the
singer, the song is "Those Were The Days", and the album is _Postcard_,
recently released on CD, the label is Apple.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 11:26:00 CDT
From:         MIKE <VANVMIKE@OSHKOSHW.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: R.E.M. Touring

Date sent:  3-NOV-1992 10:41:14
>Date sent:  2-NOV-1992 18:11:09
>     With the bands latest release, Automatic for the People.
>Will Bill Berry, Peter Buck, Mike Mills and Michael Stipe be
>hitting the road on a tour to support their new album? If so
>when? Or will they do the same as their previous album (Out
>of Time) and not tour? Leaving their fans in dismay.
>
>                                           Please Respond
>                                                Aaron

Aaron,
        I heard that they are going to work on their next album and release
it before they tour.  But when they do tour...I heard it is to be a 2 year
world tour.  So....chances are you'll see them in the next few years.  Next
album is due next year already.

Mike
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Date: 6 Nov 92 22:15:25 GMT
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>>on their live album _Classics_? I always thought Rik was a pretty decent
>>guitarist...

>The live album is called _Stages_. "Rock 'n' Roll Machine" is on _Stages_,
>which is all live except for 2 studio tracks. RNRM *is* on _Classics_ (their
>greatest hits), but is not live.

Hmmm, I guess you're right. Why the heck was I thinking _Classics_ was live?
I'll have to check out _Stages_ (pretty sure my friend had their live stuff).

>Please do. The only info I've gotten about them is from you and another
>Canadian. Ya see down here, Axl Rose's ugly pus is splattered over most of our
>magazines. I can never find out any info on them.

Seems Rolling Stone alternates between G'n R and U2 on their cover. I thought
_Achtung Baby_ was a great album and I love U2's music, but geez...there are
other bands out there RS!

Any other Canuck acts you desperately need info on?

Later,

Bob T
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:53:56 CST
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: YOWZA

>P.S. Personal post: I was about to lose my job because of budget cuts

Hey, wait a minute!  An unemployed Sonstress is unacceptable to this
net.  Next time, let us know.

> and
>YESTERDAY I got offered another job DURING the interview (it's in my same
>office--I ask you, how could any office afford to lose a psychedelic bondage
>pinup), which
>not only saves my butt but assures continuing NET ACCESS, my main concern next
>to a paycheck.

Yippee!!

>my guitar teacher
>ACTUALLY said (and he doesn't hand out free compliments): "That's nice stuff."

Double yippee!
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