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From: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Subject: Re: Still no VI for NT!
Reply-To: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:13:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.001153.6753@microsoft.com> alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:
>In article <RFowler.282@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul20.213158.17271@pony.Ingres.COM> rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1992Jul14.163740.23231@hyper.hyper.com> bonneau@hyper.com (Paul Bonneau,,) writes:
>>>>
>>>>I guess this posting is really a plea to tools vendors to
>>>>*please* port VI to NT!
>>>>
>>>>cheers - Paul.
>>
>>>Yeah, right!  We've got a guy here waiting for someone to port Wordstar to NT!
>>Some people like wordprocessors that show what the control codes are, and 
>>whare the f*** they are at, as well as an easy to use max 2 key command 
>>structure with a handy numonic for most commands (unlike that OTHER one 
>>with random multi-functionkey commands).
>
>Why the swearing? Where's the debate? Let's calmly agree that
>we need all apps that have a significant user-base ported to the
>Win32 API asap to make it accessible and useful to the maximum
>number of people - we don't need one or the other, we need both, all
>
>I'd like to discourage this forum being used to debate the rights and
>wrongs of various historically successful apps
>
>-- Alistair

I was not trying to start a heated debate with this comment and hope I 
haven't hurt anybody's feelings.  I DO find it amusing that we are all
getting excited about a new OS that touts graphical interfaces, windows,
and mouse support, while some people still prefer editors that were 
created specifically for a character-based interface with no windows,
mouse, or even support for the keyboards we are all using.

I have to agree with Alistair, however. This is not the place to debate
which editor is best.  So I apologize for the original posting.

Rion
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: graphics question
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:56:20 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <18b6d794@p4.f36.n245.z2.fidonet.org> Norbert_Unterberg@softstream.fido.de (Norbert Unterberg) writes:
>
>GB> Is it possible to write fast 3-D graphics applications under Windows? Is
>GB> there any way to do page flipping in a window? I'm new to Windows
>GB> programming, so I'd appreciate any ideas or suggestions. I've already
>GB> thought of using fixed- point math and trig look-up tables. Any
>GB> suggestions on how to (or how not to) implement these?
>
>Windows does not support 3D graphics, you have to do the calculations yourself. 
>Neither does it support video page flipping or multiple video pages. So 3D 
>animation or flicker free animation at all is a very hard thing (I guess) to do 
>in windows.
>
>Norbert
>---
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>Koehlerstr. 12c              Fax:      ++49-231-48 85 98
>5802 Wetter 2                Internet: Norbert_Unterberg@softstream.fido.de
>Germany                      Fidonet:  Norbert Unterberg at 2:245/36.4


It is a matter of speed of computer and of size of picture (nb of pixels).
Someone here (in another department devoted to multimedia) made me a demo
with the output of a VCR appearing in a Windows window.  I don't know
if there was a special purpose card.  But if the question : can it be done?
The answer is : Yes.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: swhall@eng.auburn.edu (Steven Wayne Hall)
Subject: .wav file information	
Keywords: Windows 3.1 wav files
Reply-To: swhall@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:33:10 GMT

Help...  I have some sound files I recorded with the Covox Sound board and I would 
like to convert them to wav files.  In the documentation included with C7.0 it does
not discuss the file format for the wav files.  Can someone help me please??

Steven W. Hall
Auburn University Engineering



From: darrylo@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:38:09 GMT
Subject: Interrupt list for Windows help?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools

     Is there a version of Ralf Brown's interrupt list in Windows help
format?  I've come to the conclusion that a quick on-line reference
could be more useful than a printed copy.  If one doesn't exist, I might
be tempted to create one.

     -- Darryl Okahata
	Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com

DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the
little green men that have been following him all day.
From: fisherj@ucs.orst.edu (Joseph A Fisher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Borland C++ 3.1 problem and NO TECH SUPPORT!
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:41:22 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU

Borland C++ 3.1 problem and NO TECH SUPPORT! (15 mins on hold too long!)

   After selecting "Functions" form the Browse menu, I get
"No Global Functions". I have followed all procedures listed in
the 3.1 Users Guide. Has anyone else had any luck with this option?

fisherj@ucs.orst.edu
-- 
Joe Fisher
fisherj@ucs.orst.edu
Oregon State University
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: tdyer@cs.ulowell.edu (Tom D.)
Subject: help beginner
Organization: U. Mass. at Lowell
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:43:07 GMT


Hi,

Iwant to start writing windows 3.1 applications in c++. I'm looking
for the least expensive package to start with. I have Borlands C++
ver 2.0 compiler on a machine at work. Any good books?

Thanks
--
Tom Dyer
tdyer@cs.ulowell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: s2212530@techst02.technion.ac.il (Oded Malky)
Subject: How can I sense mouse moves from within a minimized program
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:15:13 GMT

  I have to run a program, minimized (using "load= <program name>" in win.ini).
 
  Dose anybody know how can I do that?  (sense and react to mouse moves 
 
   Thanks,
 
    Oded.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:03:54 GMT
Apparently-To: post-to-news@wang.com
From: rick.masters@uttsbbs.uucp (Rick Masters)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Turbo Debugger (Win) Prob
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: rick.masters@uttsbbs.uucp (Rick Masters)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

I have a problem running Turbo Debugger under Windows 3.1. This is from
the BC++ 3.0 package. It starts up but the screen is way out of whack.
Everything is extremely large (similar to 40 column text mode) and it looks
like 4 overlapping windows. What's going on?


... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand.
--- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
From: kim@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Letkeman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Zortech 3.00r4 & Win 3.1
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:11:26 GMT
Organization: MITEL Public Switching, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
In-reply-to: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca's message of 30 Jul 92 18:16:34 GMT

In article <Bs7s3M.Fvx@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:

| Could I buy and install Windows 3.1, develop and use applications on
| it with Zortech 3.00r4 or Shall I stay as is (while every body told
| me Win 3.1 was much better) or Shall I use both Win 3.0 and 3.1?  I
| have plenty of space, but it is somewhat encumbersome to have 2
| config.sys (in case some drivers won't work in both environments)
| and 2 autoexec.bat (but I could have a WIN30.BAT and WIN31.BAT file
| set to change and register the current environment (i.e. copy
| CONFIG.W31 CONFIG.SYS).  I would develop under 3.0 and use 3.1 for
| word processing and other standard applications.

Why are you twisting yourself in knots? It's not worth it. Go to 3.1
and make certain that the development system you use works under it
and supports it's features. If not, you should trash it and use a
different one. Both MS and Borland have quality environments that
don't require you to endure all the pain you are talking about (note:
Zortech may also, but you'll have to call them to find out.)

And now I can tell you that I don't practice what I preach, because I
develop in Actor, and have too big an investment to switch until
Symantec forces me to. Hopefully they won't do something nasty like
that.
--
Kim Letkeman	kim@Software.Mitel.COM
From: eb6943686@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Communication and Databsease DLL
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:33:27 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore




HHi,
      I'm desperately seeking two DLL tollol to help
      me in my project. A communication tool (DLL) and
      a database tool (DLL). The communication tool
      should preferably support XMODEM and KERMIT protocol
      for file transfer and the database tool should preferably
     support dbase file format as well as clipper's format.
     Can anyone please tell me where i can get these tools.
     Thanks in advance .........

      PPPAAAUUULLL ....
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Still no VI for NT!
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:11:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <RFowler.282@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.213158.17271@pony.Ingres.COM> rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Jul14.163740.23231@hyper.hyper.com> bonneau@hyper.com (Paul Bonneau,,) writes:
>>>
>>>I guess this posting is really a plea to tools vendors to
>>>*please* port VI to NT!
>>>
>>>cheers - Paul.
>
>>Yeah, right!  We've got a guy here waiting for someone to port Wordstar to NT!
>
>And whats wrong with that?
>
>Some people like wordprocessors that show what the control codes are, and 
>whare the f*** they are at, as well as an easy to use max 2 key command 
>structure with a handy numonic for most commands (unlike that OTHER one 
>with random multi-functionkey commands).

Why the swearing? Where's the debate? Let's calmly agree that
we need all apps that have a significant user-base ported to the
Win32 API asap to make it accessible and useful to the maximum
number of people - we don't need one or the other, we need both, all

I'd like to discourage this forum being used to debate the rights and
wrongs of various historically successful apps

-- Alistair
From: cm9@prism.gatech.EDU (MCKEITHAN,CLIFFORD M.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Function Mapping
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:17:12 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I am trying to find a utility that will produce a map file that list all
the other functions called by a function, and/or all the other functions
that call a function.  Does anyone know of such a utility?  I am using
Borland C++ (also Microsoft C++)
Cliff

-- 
MCKEITHAN,CLIFFORD M.
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:     ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!cm9
Internet: cm9@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Opinions on Windows Comm libraries (CrystalComm, Magna Carter?)
Keywords: communication modem libraries Windows
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:41:15 GMT

We're currently looking into purchasing a third-party Windows communications
library, for supporting modem control (for Hayes and other modems), various
communication protocols (e.g., ASCII, XMODEM), etc. -- though we're most
interested in modem support.  (Rather than have to screw around with it
ourselves.)  We're using Microsoft C/C++ 7.0 (though are not currently
programming much with C++).  Our only other major requirement is that there
should be no run-time royalties for using the libraries.  We've heard about
two libraries in particular: Crystal Software's CrystalComm for Windows, and
Magna Carta's C Communications Toolkit/Windows.  If you've had any
experience using or evaluating these packages (or any other communication
libraries), I'd really appreciate a word or two on your impressions of them.

Feel free to e-mail your responses; I will be happy to summarize any
information I get to the this newsgroup.  Thanks much for your time.

                           "Yes. I move freely among all types of monster
                            people."
                                           -- Joel Hodgson
---
                                        Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
INTERNET:     moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Manual UUCP:  {uunet, uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
CREDO:        You gotta be Cruel to be Kind...
                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: skip@mitre.org (Skip Guild)
Subject: TCW 3.0 Problems.  Wait for 3.1?
Organization: The MITRE Corp
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:02:06 GMT

I'm just getting around to using Borland's Turbo C for Windows (ver 3.0) and 
have nothing but problems running even the simplest windows programs even 
from the Borland books.  They all seem to hang up Windows requiring a reboot 
to fix.

Simple question.  Is TCW ver 3.0 a known buggy system?  I have BC++ & AF 
version 3.1 on order.  Should I just give up on 3.0 and wait for 3.1?
From: morelli@pilot.njin.net (Mike Morelli)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Win App and DMA transfers
Summary: Win App for ADC board with DMA Xfers
Keywords: DMA.,DPMI,Device Drivers
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:48:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


High Netters,

I've been writting (*trying* to) a windows application which accepts
data from an Analogic (FAST 14-1-4) 14 bit, 1Mhz ADC board which has
4Mb of local memory(not memory mapped to the PC).  The board transfers
data to the PC two words at a time via DMA (thats alot of DMA INTs!).
The vender supplied software library is written for DOS (MSCv6.0), and
not windows.  I am currently using MSCv7.0, Windows 3.1, and running
a 386/33 with 8Mb, and MS DOS 5.0.

I'm new at this type of interfacing through Windows so.....

Questions:

1) Do any of you have suggestions/comments on how to start this project?
   Any references, I've got the books by Petzold, Rector, Norton&Yao -
   these aren't much help for this.  Is the book by Daniel Norton,
   "DEvice Drivers For Windows" something I should track down?  I've
   got the library looking for some related DDJ articles from early 
   this year.

2) Do I have all the software tools I need?  I've come across an
   advertisment (pg 139) in this months DDJ (8/92) for TurboPower's
   Windows System Library.  It apparently has, ammung other things,
   "DPMI access for advanced interrupt and memory control".  Anyone
   heard of this product before? Maybe used it?  Is this something
   I should consider?

Comemnts and insights would really help me get started.

Replys by email would be best (nus16@ttacs1.ttu.edu)

I will be happy to post a summary if folks would like.

Thanks for you feedback!

___________________________________________________________________
Michael Morelli			Internet: nus16@ttacs1.ttu.edu
Optical Systems Lab             Phone: 806-742-3575
Texas Tech University
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: skip@mitre.org (Skip Guild)
Subject: Re: TCW 3.0 Problems.  Wait for 3.1?
Organization: The MITRE Corp
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:33:25 GMT

In article <131101@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> lindner@ncis.llnl.gov (Curt Lindner) writes:
>In article <skip.110.711720126@mitre.org> skip@mitre.org (Skip Guild) writes:
>>I'm just getting around to using Borland's Turbo C for Windows (ver 3.0) and 
>>have nothing but problems running even the simplest windows programs even 
>>from the Borland books.  They all seem to hang up Windows requiring a reboot 
>>to fix.
>>

>Are you using 32-bit Disk Access?? ...

Ignore all after good morning.  I found my error, and it wasn't with the 
IDE.  That is not to say the IDE isn't without faults (a.k.a. what used to 
be called UAE's), but I'm able to work around them until I get my update.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: mtsjej@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (slug)
Subject: Application Frameworks
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:27:26 GMT


hi.....i am just about to start delving into the world of
Windows programming....i have a few questions though....i
have Borland C++ 3.1 with the App Frameworks and also Protogen 2.2.
what i am wondering is what people suggest as to writing
ObjectWindows Apps.....i assume i can go about in 3 ways:


  1. write all ObjectWindows code
  2. use Resource Workshop, ObjectWindows code
  3. use Resource Workshop, Protogen, ObjectWindows code


i am almost positive i will use the Resource Workshop but
am not sure about Protogen....i do have experience with C++
and also TurboVision......any comments...thanks in advance!!!


                                            -- jeff
From: hans@pine.circa.ufl.edu (Hans van Oostrom)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Bug in Borland C++ 3.1: demonstration included
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:38:00 GMT
Organization: University of Florida - Dept. of Anesthesiology
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I ran into a piece of code that will crash the Borland 3.1 compiler when
you compile it.  It gives a General Protection Fault Exception 0D in the
bcc and bc compilers (I haven't try the tcw one).  Try the following at home:

// file showbug.cpp

#include <stdio.h>

void main()
{
    stat();
}

void stat(void)
{
    printf("hello");
}

void another()
{
    stat();
}

I know that this is supposed to generate an error message because the stat
function doesn't have a prototype.  I also know that stat is defined as 
something else in the sys\stat.h file, but since I am not using that it
should be ok.  If you change the name of stat or include a prototype it
works ok.  

If anybody can shine some light on this I would be interested.
I will forward this to Borland.

Hans van Oostrom                    KD4MUJ
PO Box J-254, JHMHC                 hans@ufpine                (BITNET)
Gainesville, FL  32601, USA         hans@pine.circa.ufl.edu    (INTERNET)
>>>          Hoe ver je ook gaat, overal zie je landgenoten           <<<
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Icon Editor Trouble in BC++ 3.1
From: stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz (Stefan Olson)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 21:21:29 +12
Keywords: Icon Editor Color Streaking

pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi) writes:

> stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz (Stefan Olson) writes:
> 
> >Do you have the icon loading by LoadIcon() In the class registration??
> 
> Yes.  Here is the code (I use Borland's OWL)
> 
> void TMainWindow::GetWindowClass(WNDCLASS _FAR & AWndClass)
> {
> 	TDialog::GetWindowClass(AWndClass);
> 	AWndClass.hIcon=LoadIcon(AWndClass.hInstance,"IconName");
> }

That looks right to me, but I don't know OWL well enough (yet), to be able
be sure.  Someone must know...

...Stefan


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   Stefan Olson                     Mail: stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz
   Kindness in giving creates love.
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From: lindner@ncis.llnl.gov (Curt Lindner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: TCW 3.0 Problems.  Wait for 3.1?
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:25:16 GMT
Reply-To: lindner@ncis.tis.llnl.gov
Organization: Chem-Nuclear Systems, Inc.,  Columbia, SC

In article <skip.110.711720126@mitre.org> skip@mitre.org (Skip Guild) writes:
>I'm just getting around to using Borland's Turbo C for Windows (ver 3.0) and 
>have nothing but problems running even the simplest windows programs even 
>from the Borland books.  They all seem to hang up Windows requiring a reboot 
>to fix.
>

Are you using 32-bit Disk Access??  I have experienced similar problems
running borland compiled programs, and the IDE, using my system.  I get
the Disk Timeout Error that reports that my controller is not fully 
capable of executing the Fast Disk instructions, although not one other
application I use causes the machine to hang.

I have 2 IDE disk drives, one Segate, one Conner.....



Curt Lindner                                                .....Go Jackets!
Chem-Nuclear Systems, Inc.
Columbia, South Carolina     (803) 256-0450        lindner@ncis.tis.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: bernie_marasco@stortek.com (bernie marasco)
Subject: Has anyone used Proview (not Protogen)?
Organization: StorageTek
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:49:46 GMT


Has anyone used the products from Protoview?  

I have Protogen which will allow you to design your window menu's 
and link to dialog box's.  It's not a bad tool for someone who wants 
to leap into window's programming and have something running right away.

But, how about Protoview?  Anyone have it?  Do you like it?  Is it worth
the cost?

I am looking for a 3rd party library that will allow me to easily 
create scrollable sets of edit controls in a window.  What other
products are out there besides Protoview?

--
Bernie Marasco
bernie_marasco@stortek.com
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Zortech 3.00r4 & Win 3.1
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:16:34 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

I am still using Zortech 3.00r4 for Windows development under 
Windows 3.0.  There were so many posting about problem of
transfering bugged Borland C++ to 3.1 that I assumed that
would be the same when using the Zortech ZDB debugger under Win 3.1.

I would like ot know if I was right.

Could I buy and install Windows 3.1, develop and use applications on it
with Zortech 3.00r4 or
Shall I stay as is (while every body told me Win 3.1 was much better)
or
Shall I use both Win 3.0 and 3.1?  I have plenty of space, but it is
somewhat encumbersome to have 2 config.sys (in case some drivers
won't work in both environments) and 2 autoexec.bat (but I could
have a WIN30.BAT and WIN31.BAT file set to change and register 
the current environment (i.e. copy CONFIG.W31 CONFIG.SYS).
I would develop under 3.0 and use 3.1 for word processing and other
standard applications.

Am I good in assuming that a compiler for 3.1 release would include
more than the 3.1 library upgrade (i.e. some 3.0 commands would 
cause conflict at the debugger level)
-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Barthelemy Jarret (1471) -> Andre Jarret, sieur de Beauregard (1665)
\_.-===   -> Denis Beauregard (1992)                  Opinions ? Et pis non !