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From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Golden moments in Iranian sports history	
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 19:25:28 GMT
Organization: sci varzeshi

In article <Bt1AFx.324@news.udel.edu> keivan@brahms.udel.edu (Keivan Esfarjani) writes:

>>2) In the 1974 Asian Games (held in Iran), Teimour Ghiasi made Iranians
>>proud by winning the high-jump competition while achieving a PR (personal
>>record). Although Ghiasi was the defending Asian champion (he had won
>>the high-jump four years before with a leap of 2.06 m), his victory
>>in Iran was especially significant since a former world record holder
>>(Ni-chi-chin of China) was in the competition and Ghiasi was under the
>>pressure of performing well in front of home fans in a sport
>>that needs total concentration. What height did Ghiasi achieve in
>>those games?
>
>2.12 m? or 2.21(but this seems too much compared to his previous 
>record, although it's much less than the actual record which
>I don't know!! I remember it used to be 2.31 about 10 years ago)
>Anyone knows how much it is now??

Hi K1!

it's ~8 feet now (2.44 m) held by Javier Sanabria from Cuba according to my
cheat book.  You didn't think that I remember all these figures :-)

Our Teimor Ghiasi set the record at 2.21 as you mentioned in '74.  I wonder
if this record has changed (that's 18 years you know).  Mack can you dig 
Iran's record from pages of your Keyhan varzeshi magazines, please?

>Ali-e DAnAee Fard, and AndrAnick EskandariAn scored the
>goal against Iran. I remember HejAzi was really pissed. 
>DAnAee Fard and another player (I think Hasan Rowshan) 
>were then selected from the iranian team to play for the 
>"Wolrd Team".

And our humble Anderanik Eskandarian was shortly recruited by New York Cosmos
agents after the '78 WC games in Argantina.  When I came to the US in late '78
and on the first weekend I saw him playing next to Prince Becken Bauyer,
Niskens (Holland), and Pele I couldn't believe it.  BTW, according to my
varzeshi news Anderanik is currently living in Florida running a business of
some sort.

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 324-1055
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Spain and Iran
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:53:30 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <Bt5qDJ.L3E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>kambizm@fidibus.uio.no  writes:
>
>
>>                                Iran and Spain
>
>
>>Spain discovered the west while we have lost it!     
>
>>                                                        Kambiz
>
>Spain discovered the west?
>Spain IS the West.
>Iran IS NOT the West.
>Iran IS the East.
>You are expected to know this very basic fact before making so much conclusions.
>
K
Mr. Kambiz should not talk about facts that are outside the realm of IEEE 
without thinking about what he says. Here are some historical facts that you 
might/might not want to know. Columbus was not the first person to land in the
"West". 500 years before that the Vikings had landed in Canada. If you want to
go even further 200 years before that, Muslims had landed in California. When 
the Spaniards had reached California, they had encountered Muslim Indian tribes
some who spoke fluent Arabic. The name of California comes from the word 
Khalifah. Does this sound like hogwash? I'll give you the sources. Even before
that Chinese were here. They landed around 1000 BC. 
I know what you are talking about though. Spain has taken upon itself the 
technical culture that is flourishing in Europe. Iran has not. From what I read
in journals and from the postings even here, I strongly disagree. It is true
that if it wasn't for the western colonial powers Muslim countries would still
be asleep, but you are leaving out a lot of variables. What did the powers do
to the Muslims in order to get themselves woken up? Two people who I agree withsaid it nicely, The leader of Bosnia, Alijah Izzetbagovic, and a British 
thinker, Hassan Eaton, talk about two methods, one was the stick the other was 
the mind. Slowly the mind of the Muslim was transformed such that it had 
undergone a cultural apostasy, that is to say that it had rejected the culture
of the East and accepted the culture of the West it would not take much then to
reject Islam, these people who I see as ardent admirers of the accomplishments
of the West and the so-called "humanism" of which none exists in any of the 
Western nations are pariahs because they are trying to see their own countries
fit the mold of the western model; in reality they are out of touch with their
own culture, with their people with their history, with the mindset of 
everything they are trying to change, but the worst part is that they are out 
of touch with themselves. A cultural apostasy which they never even noticed 
occuring to them has changed their way of thinking to a large extent yet they 
are not fully aware of what is going on in their heads. Something to think 
about dear readers.

sincerely

zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no 
Subject: Ali bab Molaghab be Ali Eslami
Reply-To: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no 
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:58:51 GMT


>Dear Kambiz;
>I will gladly accept your invitation on one condition that you take some
>time off your masterbating and work on your expression and poetry. I
>expect bad english from all of us, but when it comes to persian there is no
>excuse.  I hope your parents weren't hoping for you to become the next
>persian poet because you would have disappointed them so badly.  With all
>the good Iranian expression and poetry yours is a masterpiece.  Maybe (as
>tarse regime zabonet gerafteh) try pigeon eggs or take Noushin's Uncles'
>advice before (bereene be tamameh zabaneh farsi)

>Ali baba

First some verses from Molavi since it is in its place:

Di ba cheragh sheykh hami gasht dore shahr
                   Az div o dad maloolamo Ensanam Arezost
Zin hamrahan sost anasor delam greft
                   Shire khoda va rostame dastanam arezoost

Maybe my English is not that good, since I do not live in an English speaking
country, but my persian is unmatched. Here I have written a piece of poetry
for you (I confess that it is not felbedahe (improvised)) but it can be as well
written for you. I hope that you can match that.


Az jafaye to degarggon shode halate hame
                       ...ir barkhaste in hamhame az babe to bood
To mozafar be gholoobe hammeye sost tanan
                       Parde bendaz na in naz ze atvare to bood
Jaberi, Sangdeli, Sakht sari, narm tani
                       Ey be ghorban hameye atashe del kare to bood
Rast barkhaste ta sorate gol boose zanat
                       Torfeye saharaki dar tabe asrare to bood


SheEr Az khodam va taghdim be Baba Ali the master of persian literature..

Az Eshgi va khodam Tazmini miavaram (Here I just change Modares with Ali khan
the rest is from Eshgi (I think it was Eshghi!).

Be Ali khan natavan kard jesarat Amma
                   Inghadar hast ke dar rahgozarash bayad rid.

(You can change dar rahgozarash ba bar rishe kharash).

                                   Kambiz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Japan's money supply posts lowest growth on record
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:51:35 GMT


	TOKYO (UPI) -- Japan's broad measure of its money supply expanded at
its lowest rate ever in July, the central Bank of Japan reported Friday,
underscoring the sluggish economic performance plaguing Japan.
	The broad money supply in July -- M2 plus certificates of deposit --
grew only 0.2 percent from the same month last year, down from the
previous record low of 0.9 percent in June.
	Overshadowing the July figures was the increasing disillusionment
among central bank officials and private economists with the traditional
measure of the nation's money supply. Analysts contend it has become
outdated and no longer represents true liquidity in Japan.
	The government has begun to turn to new indicators, including 
``broadly defined liquidity'' -- which includes postal savings and other
financial products not counted in the traditional survey -- as a more
relaistic measure of money supply in Japan.
	The broad liquidity measure for July grew only 3.5 percent from the
year-ago period, down from 3.9 percent in June.
	The broad liquidity measure, which was weaker than some economists
had expected, pointed to a long road to recovery for the beleaguered
Japanese economy, economists said.
	``This doesn't cheer anybody up,'' said Adrian Tschoegl, senior
economist at SBCI Securities (Asia). ``Nobody is really comfortable the
end is in sight.''


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: keivan@brahms.udel.edu (Keivan Esfarjani)
Subject: Re: More Iranian sports trivia (By Kamran Iranpour)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:39:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.171106.3904@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>
>It has been a couple of days since these questios were posted, so I
>will make an attempt to answer some of them. Thanks to Kambiz for
                                                        ^^^^^^
Can't you read up there? It says KAMRAN!!
Why is everybody confusing these two names??

>>4- In the qualifying match of the WC footbal in 74 Germany, Iran
>>again met Australia (we had lost the first game in Melbourne 0-3),
>>What was the final score and who scored the goals?
>
>Iran won 2-0. Don't know who scored the goals.

Wasn't that Parviz-e-Ghelitch Khani?? 
And onee of the goals wasfrom a penalty kick.
I remember they were saying that he promised his
wife to score two goals(which he did). He was hoping
somebody else would take care of the rest; but nobody did!
The journalist was wondering why he didn't promise to score
three goals!!

>>5- What were the name of the two Kuwaiti forward who met Iran
>>in all the games (and I say there was many of them)?
>
>If I remember correctly, one was Fathi Kamil. I don't remember the
>other.

Could it be Hamad bou Hamad? or something like that?

>>7- Who was the Mordeh-Khor of Taj ?
>
>You mean they ever scored?  :-)

Are you guys out of your mind? 
TAj never had a mordeh-khor. Ali JabbAri (the captain) used
to score a lot; and later, hassan Rowshan became their best 
forward(also of the national team).
The only forward that I can think of as a mordeh-khor
was Ghaffoor-e-JahAni of MalavAn(AjAx-e-GilaAn!).

>Thanks for the questions.
>
>    --mack
>
>--
>When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
>And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
>You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda

For the answer to the rest of the questions, refer to 
AghA HooshyAr, or maybe, he could post his own answers!

Regards,
K1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Spain and Iran
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:32:10 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <Bt5q5L.KzE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>kambizm@fidibus.uio.no  writes:
>
>
>>                                Iran and Spain
>
>>and Iran have gone different ways. In the openning ceremony Iran was the 
>>only country who did not let a woman to carry its flag. This made the 
>>Scandinavian womanTV commentator very angry.
>	      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>                                                        Kambiz
>
>And you were once again embarresd by the people of the country of your origin.
>All you need to do is to forget about Iran and its uncivilized and fanatic
>people change your name and citizenship (if you have not done so) and
>stop bothering yourself with sci.  This happens to people who 
>try so much to understand the West (or better said immitating Westerners)
>that they forget their own culture/custom/religion.
>
>
I've seen this happen quite a number of times. They feel inferior about where
they come from so they don't tell anyone the country of origin, or even worse,
the lie about, saying they are from Italy or or Greece, or someplace like that.
They are inferior about being Muslim so they stop associating with Muslims, 
even those that are not from the same country, then they try and imitate white
people I don't mean white educated people, but the average joe white boy/girl,
with all of the stupidity that comes along with it thinking that they are being
"modern" but all it is is that little minds are trying to be big. If Mr. Kambiz
did not like the idea that a woman commentator was not allowed to carry a flag
it does not mean that all or even most or even a large minority of the Iranian
culture is bad, all it means is that there are somethings that need to be 
changed. Oh, if you are going to talk about religious fanaticism forget it. 
It's got nothing to do with Islam.


zafar
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 12:25:48 EDT
From: Kayvon Z. Sadeghi <KSADEGH@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Iranian women in U.S.
 <92221.231947RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> <1992Aug9.110500.7199@ifi.uio.no>
 <Bsxwy5.KE5@acsu.buffalo.edu>

In article <Bsxwy5.KE5@acsu.buffalo.edu>, sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
says:
>
>Us Iranian Men don't simply deserve Iranian women. They are very
>intelligent and very sensetive and caring. They have always been taking
                 **************************
>care of us men and our children and we never thanked them except showing
>that we are men and showing our muscles and beating them. So we simply
>don't deserve them. I am not saying other foriegn people deserve them but
>we gotta start appreciating more ...
>
>Ramin
>
>*****************************************************************************
>* "We hate it when our friends become successfull. And if we could destroy  *
>*  them , you bet your life we would ....   "   The Mozzerman               *
>*****************************************************************************



Now, hear this:

I have seen many Iranian women who were going out with more than one
man at the very same time. I have seen many of them cheating their boy
friends. And, as the matter of fact, most of the Iranian women that
I know of dating with someone, endded up marrying somebody else. Mostly
because that somebody else had a visa or green card or something alike.
Now, I don't wanna generalize it; but I don't think its fare to call
them "sensitive and carying." We have good women and bad women, just as we
have good men and bad men.
And, believe me, wherever you go, you'll find some sensitive women and
some evil men; ther is nothing unique into it.


k1
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KAYVON Z. SADEGHI                  K.SADEGHI@IEEE.ORG
VOICE: 202/244-0789
From: harrsen@parts.eng.ohio-state.edu (Baback A. Izadi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Fereydoon Farrokh-zaad's Murder
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:00:39 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <1992Aug17.174802.4712@bnr.ca> ramin@crchh467.BNR.CA (Ramin Moshiri-Tafreshi) writes:
>Ala writes:
>>This program suspected that the death of FF and Bakhtiar and Rajavi may
>                                                              ??????
>>be the work of the government of Iraq since all these people had contacts
>>with Iraq.
>
>This is a news to me.  Has there been any attempt to kill Rajavi?  I have
>not heard anything about it.
>
Not Massoud Rajavi (the leader of Mojahedin), but Dr. Kazem
Rajavi (Massoud's brother) who was murdered by the Khomanie's
diplomat-terrorists in Swiss more than two years ago. 
Dr. Rajavi was a professor of law and was instrumental in
passing a number of U.N. resolutions in condemning the
violation of human rights in Iran.
>
>Regards;
>Ramin Moshiri
>
>

Asghar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Gulf War oil pollution less severe than thought
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Keywords: Persian Gulf
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:47:42 GMT

---

I wonder what would be the environmental damage, if Saddam had nuclear and 
biological weapons!  I guess, all the middle east would have gone up in the 
smoke.

                          With highest regards,
                               Babak   Sehari.
From: towfiq@Microdyne.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,talk.politics.mideast,soc.rights.human,alt.discrimination,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Editorial in N.Y. Times (8/18/92)
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:10:00 GMT
Followup-To: soc.rights.human
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corporation


  [Although this article is heavily crossposted, please note the
Followup-To: header to soc.rights.human.--mmt]

  The following editorial appeared in Tuesday's New York Times:

			   A Death in Iran

Despite recurrent reports that Iran has become "moderate," persecution
of members of the Bahai faith has intensified.  On March 17, a
businessman named Bahman Samandari was summoned to the notorious Evin
prison in Teheran, where he was secretly executed the next day.

His widow learned of his fate on April 5, when prison officials handed
her what they said was a copy of his will--but refused to tell where
he was buried.

Mr. Samandari's sole crime was that he was a prominent adherent of the
Bahai faith, a religion with some 400,000 followers in Iran that is
deemed heretical by the ruling mullahs.  But the sequel is hopeful: 52
Iranian-born scholars in American and Europe signed a letter
condemning "this act of official lawlessness and brutality in the
strongest possible terms."  Their protest appeared recently as an
advertisement in the Iran Times, published in Washington, D.C.

This is the first time a group of prominent, mostly Muslim Iranians
have signed such a statement.  The Teheran Government has appealed to
educated Iranians living abroad to return to their homeland.  If the
mullahs are serious, they cannot ignore the anguish that caused these
academics to plead with Iran to cease persecution and uphold instead
"the freedom of religious belief of all its citizens."

Iran's failure to do so undermines its own legitimate protests over
the slaughter of Muslims in Bosnia, solely because they are Muslims.
--
Mark Towfiq, towfiq@Microdyne.COM			      H:+1 617 488 2818

O SON OF SPIRIT!  Noble have I created thee, yet thou hast abased thyself. Rise
then unto that for which thou wast created.
		-- The Hidden Words of Baha'u'llah
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Re: On question of moaafi
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:00:42 GMT

In article <19212@drutx.ATT.COM> ry@drutx.ATT.COM (YazdiR) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.133850.23136@Princeton.EDU>
>bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi) writes:
>
>
	:
	:
	:

>
>Behzad Jan-
>
>I am no al'laameh, but I enlighten you anyway!
>
>The Iranian government can not make the Mashmools go back and serve
>in the military.  So most people who came out of Iran after the 
>revolution have not gone back for that reason.  Now Mashmools have a choice.
>If they want to go back to Iran, they can either serve in the military
>or pay A LOT of money.
>
>It is not fair to the people who served their military term if those
>who have not served are exempt because they live(d) outside Iran
>and were beyond the reach of the authorities.
>
>May be the government should set these funds aside to help the disabled
>families and those who lost their loved ones in the war with Iraq.

  It is good idea, but you can never be sure, the money will get to disabled
  families(due to lack of trust in the system). I am sorry, it is just my 
  opinion and it is only mine. This is just problem that is really hurting
  our society. 

>
>So, lets go to Iran and don't argue!
>
>LL Sirjan.
>Reza


-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.turkish
From: massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami)
Subject: Re: Baghdad is an Iranian city !!!
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:33:08 GMT

In article <bazyar.714187596@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
:
:
>Calling an empire a "United States" is totally missing the meaning
>of the term- individual states united by choice, not war (I'm ignoring
>the American Civil War).
:
:
I wonder how the State of Texas joined the Union?!

Peace and Prosperity!
  ---==< 110 >==---
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: CIA
Date: 22 Aug 92 07:01:42 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Aug21.183021.13702@ulrik.uio.no> kambizm@fidibus.uio.no writes:

 #The conclusion that the revelation against CIA can harm this
 #or that group is not always right (I am not for any
 #groups before any suspiscion arises). 
 #Look what happened to Sandinists in the election.
 #Everybody knew that Chamoro's opposition alliance was 
 #financed by U.S. and what happened. People voted for her!
 # ....
 # ....
 # ....
             
I have to tell you KAmbiz, nothing personal, but you really ramble on!
Here's a suggestion: Try to stick to one topic and try to be brief.
                           
About CIA support for opposition groups. I agree that revelations
of CIA support do not necessarily harm a certain group but I think
that in Iran that is definitely the case. Primarily because CIA
was so closely associated with the ex-shah. Now you can say that
the CIA was also closely associated with the former dictator
of Nicaragua (whom the Sandinistas removed from power). And
the answer is that Iranians are different from Nicaraguans!
                                                 
While the Nicaraguans (and many other countries) have been
willing to accept the US as the Big Brother, Iranians were NOT
willing to do that. They have paid for it but they have not
done that. Why? Because Iran has found itself and what it has found
is already grown up!                
         
 - Farzin
               
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: news@fmiapd2.uucp
Subject: TEst
Organization: Fujitsu Microelectroics Inc
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:55:57 GMT

TEST
From: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: True Iranians
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:01:56 GMT
Reply-To: saleham@cauchy.mcs.clarkson.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


kambizm@fidibus.uio.no:
> After Ala accused me of not being a true Iranian, I went through one of
> my harshest life crisis. I looked myself in a mirror to check it out and
> it didn't help much I confess. This person could have come from anywhere
> but Mars, I told myself.
>
>                                              Kambiz

  You can not tell by looking in the mirror. You need a blood test.
  
  Anwar Saleh