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From: hogan@sound (Kharim Hogan)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: PhD programs!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:52:55 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM

Hi,

I am a Master's student presently working on my thesis in
"The Perception of Musical Rhythm Using Neural Networks"
and will be graduating in the summer 1993.  I am looking
at the available options for pursuing a PhD in connectionist
related areas.  Note that I am not necessarily committed to
areas related to music but rather am looking to find a PhD
program with a strong emphasis in the cognitive sciences,
neuropsychology, connectionism and/or computational modelling.

I would like to hear from anyone out there who is either
registered in such a program, offers such a program, 
or has any information on graduate schools offering a 
strong program in this area.
I am interested in what is being offered and what is being
done in graduate schools out there so if you could help me
out by sending me some comments or suggestions about this,
I would be most appreciative.

What are the schools to consider and what do they offer?
I have been doing some research on my own about graduate
schools but as you know there are many and as a student
can't afford to go and visit all of them.  So if you're
there and can give me some information this would really
help me out.
Please help me find a place to do my PhD or at least
narrow down my options.

If you would like to know more about my research and 
interests, please feel free to write and ask.


Thank you!

Kharim Hogan
hogan@music.mcgill.ca
From: jaideep@cis.ksu.edu (Jaideep Jain)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: MBA Mail List wanted
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:03:06 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: polaris.cis.ksu.edu
Keywords: MBA Mail List

Could you send me a mail list of all the colleges offering PhD in
Marketing or Finance.

This is for my friend in Indian Institute of Management, Calcutta, India.
He will be getting a MBA from IIM around May 94, and wants to come here
for a PhD.

Thanks,
Jaideep.
-- 

Jaideep.
From: ahmad@ra.cs.umb.edu (Ahmad Hashem)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: GRE scores
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:58:59 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Folks,

I received my GRE scores yesterday, and am wondering where I stand.  What
I'd like to know is what schools I should expect to be within my reach.

Questions:
1. Among the accepted applicants to the very top schools (ivy league etc), 
   what is (roughly) the range of GRE scroes?
2. Do you think one can check with departments one intends to apply to 
   about the range of scores they usually expect from applicants?
   Also, what other information do you think such departments might
   give you (without frowning); e.g., percent of applicants who are offered
   admission, GPA of accepted applicants, etc..  

I just would like to do some evaluation/filtering before I fill applications
and pay the required fees (and bother my professors with recommendation 
letters).

Thanks,
Ahmad
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: frank@csri.toronto.edu (Frank Kschischang)
Subject: Re: EE EMAIL LIST
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:52:50 GMT

leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee) writes:

>In article <1992Nov17.204816.27232@beaver.cs.washington.edu> mef@cs.washington.edu (Marc Fiuczynski) writes:
>>This is the EE graduate email list for now... please do send me more
>>submissions.
>>
>>USA --- USA --- USA --- USA --- USA --- USA --- USA --- USA --- USA --- USA
...
>>McMaster				findlay@power.eng.McMaster.Ca
...
>>Simon Fraser				gradpgm@cs.sfu.ca


Both McMaster and Simon Fraser are in Canada:  McMaster in
Hamilton, Ontario and Simon Fraser in Burnaby, British Columbia.
From: hduncan@cs.ucsd.edu (Hal Duncan)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: GRE scores
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:48:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, UC San Diego

ahmad@ra.cs.umb.edu (Ahmad Hashem) writes:
<1. Among the accepted applicants to the very top schools (ivy league etc), 
<   what is (roughly) the range of GRE scroes?

One figure I've heard quoted fairly often is >700 quantitative -- for
acceptances, not applications.

<2. Do you think one can check with departments one intends to apply to 
<   about the range of scores they usually expect from applicants?
<   Also, what other information do you think such departments might
<   give you (without frowning); e.g., percent of applicants who are offered
<   admission, GPA of accepted applicants, etc..  

Ask away; the worst they can do is say they can't or won't answer.

<I just would like to do some evaluation/filtering before I fill applications
<and pay the required fees (and bother my professors with recommendation 
<letters).

Apply to *lots* of schools.  Really.  If you're not destitute, you'll be
able to scrape up the $50 per; if you are destitute, you can get most
schools to waive the fee.  It's not much of a hardship to ask your
professors to write a few more letters, and it's not a lot of extra work
to fill out a few more applications yourself.  I spent more time writing
the first version of my statement of purpose than on any term paper I
ever wrote... but it only took an hour or two to revise it to fit each
application's different format requirements.

Think carefully, too, about which schools you do (and don't) apply to.
I almost didn't apply to the school I am currently attending -- "too
selective, and not as high a rep as those other schools" is what I
thought.  Well, obviously, I changed my mind at the last minute.
As it turns out, IMO, this is a much better school for my area than the
other schools I applied to.

Oh, and be sure to apply for every grant and fellowship you qualify
for, too.  Might as well get paid for all your trouble.  :-)



Hal
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jiajie Zhang)
Subject: Volunteers Needed for an Experiment in Cognitive Psychology
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:42:49 GMT



We are currently conducting an experiment to study how people solve
very simple problems.  We ask for volunteers to participate in this
experiment.  It only takes about 2 to 3 minutes.  Plus, it is fun and
enjoyable. 

To do the task, simply type:

telnet canyon.psy.ohio-state.edu (or 128.146.112.91)
Login: psyexp
(No password is needed.)

Then enter your terminal type, such as vt100, sun, xterm, and so on.

Everything is fully automatic and self-explained.

If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or send me
an email.

Thank you for your help.

-----
Jiajie Zhang, 			(614)-292-8667 (office)
Assistant Professor		(614)-885-7995 (home)
Department of Psychology	jiazhang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Ohio State University	 	zhang@canyon.psy.ohio-state.edu
Columbus, OH 43210
From: rick@daffodil.tymnet.com (Rick McFarland)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Engineer into medicine
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:55:33 GMT
Organization: BT North America, San Jose, CA

I have a Master's Degree in Operations Research (A branch of Engineering)
and I would like to apply it to Medicine.  I, however, lack biology requirements.
Yet, I still would like to go to med school or get a degree in bio engineering.

My questions are:
1) If I want to apply my engineering to medicine, what is my course of action?
   Med school?  Clinical or Bio Eng? Bio Stats (My BS is in Stats)? Any other
   recommended fields?
2) Can I get into any programs wihtout Biology and make up the courses I need
   once I'm in?

I posted this in soc.college.gradINFO and was flamed for posting in the wrong group.
I hope this is the correct news group.  

Any advice is helpfull.  Thanks in advance.
(Thanks to the people who responded postitively in the other group also)




RiCk



-------------------------------------------
"In the country of the blind, the one-eyed men are kings."
"ad astra per aspera" -Kansas State Motto
From: huang1@husc11.harvard.edu (Howard Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: GRE scores
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:50:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc11.HUANG1.92Nov19105029
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: ahmad@ra.cs.umb.edu's message of 18 Nov 92 04:58:59 GMT

ahmad@ra.cs.umb.edu (Ahmad Hashem) writes:

   1. Among the accepted applicants to the very top schools (ivy league etc), 
      what is (roughly) the range of GRE scroes?

Some schools publicize the average scores for their accepted students,
and other schools publicize minimum expectations.  University of
Washington CS department says their average GPA is 3.6, and average CS
GRE about 86%ile.  University of Texas CS Ph.D. program expects at
least a 3.5 and 85%ile.

I would guess that most top schools in science will look for verbal
scores around 700, and math and logic 750+.  None of these are
absolute requirements, though.

   I just would like to do some evaluation/filtering before I [...]
   bother my professors with recommendation letters.

Try asking your professors what your chances are; they should have a
good feel for your qualifications as well as the competitiveness at
various schools.

--Howard
hhuang@mitre.org
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: hmasum@alfred.carleton.ca (Hassan Masum)
Subject: English depts grad admissions Email addresses
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:48:22 GMT

Has anyone seen or does anyone possess a list of email addresses for
English departments of different universities where one can request
physical information/application forms to be sent by physical mail?
If you don't have a general list, even single addresses would be
welcome.

(I'm surprised a general directory for all areas doesn't exist (or at
least is not well known).)

Thanks,
Hassan Masum
hmasum@ccs.carleton.ca
-- 

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Newsgroups: sfu.mba,soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo,alt.grad-student.tenured
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: MBA rankings needed (Canada)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:58:00 GMT

ekaas@cs.sfu.ca (Erik Kaas) writes:

>I know this has been requested before, but could someone please post
>the rankings of MBA schools in Canada?

From the April 1992 issue of the Canadian Business ...
Top 20 of Canadian MBA Programs ...

1.  University of Toronto
2.  University of Western Ontario
3.  McGill University
4.  Ecole des Hautes Etudes Commericales
5.  Universite de Sherbrooke
6.  Universite de Laval
7.  University of Windsor
8.  University of News Brunswick
9.  University of Alberta
10. Concordia University
11. Queen's University
12. Laurentian University
13. Univerity of Calgary
14. Wilfrid Laurier University
15. York University
16. Dalhousie University
17. University of Saskatchewan
18. University of Ottawa
19. University of British Columbia
20. Universite de Moncton

Read also, "MBA schools just don't know when to quit" in The Globe and Mail,
Thrusday Nov 19, 1992, section D page 1 ...

For the American Business schools' ranking, read the Oct 26 issue of
Business Week ...

>I am particularly interested in UBC and SFU, and how they
>compare to other Canadian and American MBA schools.

Despite the above ranking, UBC is #2 in the Dean's Ranking, #4 in the
Executive Choice and #5 in the Recruiters' Selections, according to 
that cover story of Canadian Business ... Of course, SFU's MBA (not
the executive one) is hopeless as it is too theoretical and quantitative
... As far as I know, only the top 2 business schools in Canada (UT
and Western) can compete with their American counterparts ...

Samuel ... outspoken, highly-talented, charming ... 

Xref: sparky soc.college.grad:2107 soc.college.gradinfo:1683 alt.grad-student.tenured:66
From: minghsua@usc.edu (Ming-Hsuan Yang )
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo,alt.grad-student.tenured
Subject: MS/Ph.D. program in Cognitive Science
Date: 21 Nov 1992 10:05:23 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Hi, 

	I am applying for MS/Ph.D. program in fields about cognitive science
, escipally in neural computing and brain modeling. Could anyone give me
some advices about any excellent graduate schools? What I know now are
MIT-Brain & Cognitive Science, Brown-Cognitive Science, UCSD-Cognitive Science,
USC-Hedco Neural Science. I would appreciate any helps from those already in
these fields. (those are these schools already are even welcomed). Thank you.

	Ming Yang
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: stop the frat discussion!
From: censtad@dumaine.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad)
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:47:07 -0600

In article <1992Nov16.060523.22352@ncsu.edu>  writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov14.163235.2305@gacvx2.gac.edu>,  
censtad@dumaine.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad) writes:
> >In article <1992Nov13.161150.8720@iscsvax.uni.edu>  writes:
> >>         HEY!  SHUT UP ABOUT THE DAMN FRATS!
> >> 
> >>         1) Nobody cares
> >> 
> >>         2) Get a clue!  and get a life.
> >> 
> >>         3) start your own damn newsgroup if you just want to 
> >>            talk about frats.  Sheez!
> >> 
> >>  _expecting mass flame but it had to be said!
> 
> >Here's part of the flame:
> 
> >1. Frats are a college issue
> >2. People ARE discussing it so please butt out if you have nothing of  
> >interest to say
> 
> Here's more.  Use a kill file.  This is soc.college, and Fraternities  
are a
> part of collegiate society, like it or not.  If you don't want to read  
about
> it, please don't.

Wow...looks like somebody decided to speak for everyone else on this group  
and is getting flamed to death.  The Frat discussion stays.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Fraternal Reality From a Greek
Originator: jagreath@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:19:24 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.001845.11979@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Fraternal Reality From a Greek
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:18:45 EST

In article <1992Nov16.150004.36@newton.hartwick.edu> buccim@newton.hartwick.edu writes:
>Well, Well.  (etc.)

>I'm curious why it is every pro-frat argument trots out the same tired old
>storyline ("you're just not in a frat", "we do a lot of philanthropy",
>"we've been around since 1776", "everybody joins a frat", "we never haze",
>"anybody who doesn't like frats watches too much Animal House") often
>with the exact same wording.  It's just plain eerie.  I've seen almost
>this exact same post in campus newspapers on two different coasts, and
>this is the third or fourth time I've seen it on the net.  Is it part
>of the standard brainwas^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpledging process?

Let's see.  Brainwashing.  Ted Frank.  Correlation? Perhaps.  Elimination of
the pledging process is a gimmick, not a solution to the problem of hazing in
Fraternities.  ZBT and TKE have eliminated their pledging program.  They have
tried to convince the world that the gimmick they have implemented is the only
solution.  It isn't.  The only solution to hazing is a dedicated group with a
singular purpose:  to remove hazing from the New Members' program.  Hazing 
itself is separationist tactic designed so that the initiated members can 
"dehumanize" the pledge class as a seperate entity and abuse them without 
remorse.  I find it disturbing that any man in a Fraternity who truly believes
in what his Fraternity stands for can allow anything like this to happen to a
person who he intends to call "Brother."  It is equally disturbing that ZBT
and TKE have chosen to run away from the problem instead of face it.  I believe
that there should be a limit on the time that a New Member Education Program
should last before initiation (8 weeks is plenty of time to educate new members
and reeducate older members on the principles of the Fraternity).  But one
week after accepting a bid to initiation is not the answer.  

>It's a remarkable effort at misdirection and mischaracterization. Yeah,
>fraternities do a lot of good.  But they also do a lot of bad.  And the
>bad they do can be easily alleviated by going co-ed and eliminating the
>pledging process without at all interfering with the good that fraternities
>do.

A bland assertion, Ted.  But fortunately, it is only an opinion.

-- 
**************************************************************************
*                                                                        *
*  Joseph A. Greathouse            *  All opinions are solely mine.      *  
*  Theta Chi Fraternity            *  A non-hazing, leadership-oriented  *
*  Delta Rho Chapter               *  organization, promoting Alma Mater *
*  North Carolina State University *  and the concept of a Helping Hand. *
*  Final Score:  Wolfpack 31 - Wahoos 7  Go Pack!!!!                     *
**************************************************************************
From: cigs07@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: <None>
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:16:46 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

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Candidates are welcomed both from a law or technical background.
Assessment is by examination and by submission of a dissertation.

For application forms and or more detailed information please write to
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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac)
Subject: Re: Fraternal Reality From a Greek
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:14:44 GMT

censtad@dion.gac.edu (Topher the Gustie) writes:

>> I say, let people join what they want, but don't ask the school (and my
>> tuition money) to support it.
>> 
>> --ADAM "KEYS" LASNIK from Northwestern

>Why not... wouldn't you expect the school to help out an organization  
>which YOU belonged too?  Remember it IS a loan.

>One of the pluses of going to a large school is to be able to select from  
>a diverse group scene.  The University supports in some way all school  
>recognized groups, in part with your tuition money, can you say that you  
>have done EVERYTHING that your school has to offer?  I mean maybe one  
>third of my schools students have bothered to get an account to access the  
>NeXT computers, does that mean that those who don't have accounts should  
>demand that their money not be spent on these computers?

No there is a BIG difference here that you are missing, Anyone could
get an acount on one of the NeXT's by asking for one (or filling out
a form or whatever) but everyone can not join any given greek org. by
saying I like this one I want to be a member. They would have to be of
the right gender to start with and then go threw a plegde prosses in
which they would get to be second class members for a while then
POSIBLY get into the frat.

>Chris

--Zach
   Zachary Kessin         /  Define the Universe, Give 3     
 ZKessin@cs.brandeis.edu /       examples.      
  (617)736-5848         /     Repeal Ohm's Law
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: acknowledging one's advisor
From: <PMONGEAU@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 18:21:42 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <9707@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, cacst9+@pitt.edu (Cecelia A Clancy)
says:
>
>In article <1dsj6eINNn94@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> rnc@what.csl.uiuc.edu writes:
>>
>>Having trouble acknowledging your advisor in your thesis...
>>Here is something which may help:
>>
>>
>Why would anybody have trouble acknowledging her or his thesis advisor ???
>
>When a student and a professor get together initially in this kind of
>relationship, should they not have both decided beforehand whether or not
>they can get along?
>Cecelia  <muller+@pitt.edu>     (412) 682-2798
 
 
Cecelia - In short, no.  This is like saying that when a man and a
woman get together on a first date that they should be able to
live a long and happy life together.  Can you DECIDE to get
together?  It's something that evolves and like any relationship
they work well sometimes and they don't work well other times.
Shit happens.
 
Paul - PMONGEAU@MIAMIU
From: DSCT@db1.cc.rochester.edu (DAVID SCOTT)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: re: thesis advisor
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:39:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Nov16.223940.7938
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11


	Would that it be that the utopian connection was
always made when picking your advisor. This is not jtrue by a long
shot. There always have been, and always will be problems. I think it
is human nature that not everybody enjoys working with everyone else.
Some advisors get distracted by other things etc... I am not condoning
it, just saying it happens. In a perfect ( or even slightly better ) 
educational system, it would not be the case. Oh well
						-Gavin
 
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Fraternal Reality From a Greek
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:18:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.150004.36@newton.hartwick.edu> buccim@newton.hartwick.edu writes:
>Well, Well.  (etc.)

I'm curious why it is every pro-frat argument trots out the same tired old
storyline ("you're just not in a frat", "we do a lot of philanthropy",
"we've been around since 1776", "everybody joins a frat", "we never haze",
"anybody who doesn't like frats watches too much Animal House") often
with the exact same wording.  It's just plain eerie.  I've seen almost
this exact same post in campus newspapers on two different coasts, and
this is the third or fourth time I've seen it on the net.  Is it part
of the standard brainwas^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpledging process?

It's a remarkable effort at misdirection and mischaracterization. Yeah,
fraternities do a lot of good.  But they also do a lot of bad.  And the
bad they do can be easily alleviated by going co-ed and eliminating the
pledging process without at all interfering with the good that fraternities
do.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: jsl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (J. Shawn Landres)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Need-blind admissions?
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:33:23 GMT
Reply-To: jsl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (J. Shawn Landres)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Columbia University

Need-blind admissions means students are *admitted* without regard to their 
financial situation.

Full-need financial aid means that all admitted students are eligible for 
financial aid appropriate to their financial situation, and will in fact 
receive such funds if necessary.

They are independent of each other. It appears that UNH follows the former,
but not the latter.

/S