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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:37:00 PDT
From:         "Virginia Hetrick, in sunny Calif" <IARGRAF@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Color slide scanners
X-To:         GIS-L@UBVM.BITNET, POWER-L@NDSUVM1.BITNET

We are about to invest in a color slide scanner.  I'd like to hear
from anybody who has purchased one recently.  What we're looking at
is one that will do 24-bit color from 35mm slides.  What we'd like
to know is the manufacturer, model number, approximate price, whether
or not you have had any problems hooking it up to DOS machines and/or
RS/6000s (we expect to have it running to both with an AB switch),
what the method of connection is (SCSI or serial or other), whether
software other than device drivers came with the scanner and, if so,
what the software is/does/pros and cons about the software.  If you
have any comments on vendor support after the sale we'd like to hear
about that also.

In order to keep network traffic to a minimum, please send replies
direct to me at IARGRAF@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU.  If there is interest, I
will summarize to the lists.  Apologies for cross-posting, but these
two lists seem not to overlap very much.

Thanks.

virginia
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.db2-l
Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:22:27 EDT
From:         Tim <NBIRK@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: QMF 240 and Table editor Concurrency problem

Our shop has QMF 3.1.0 and it works as follows:
When you first enter the table editor no locks are acquired. When you are in AD
D mode with SAVE=END, as soon as the first row is added an IX lock is acquired
on the tablespace and an X lock on the page. They are released when exiting the
 table editor. When you are in ADD mode with SAVE=IMMEDIATE, the same locks are
 acquired when adding a row, but are immediately released with a COMMIT. When y
ou are in CHANGE mode, when you do your first search, an IS lock is acquired on
 the tablespace and a U lock on the page. When updating ot deleting the row, an
 IX lock is acquired on the tablespace and an X lock on the page. They are rele
ased when you exit the table editor.
From: OPRIMS@SAUPM00.BITNET (Ilyas M. Shaikh)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.db2-l
Subject: DB2 table lock during read
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:41:38 GMT
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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An analyst in his application under CICS reads a password DB2 table to validate
a user. Other user on another terminal using the same application goes in
wait status while trying to be validated by the application.
I have following questions:-

a) This is only a read operation for DB2 table, Why other user have to wait?
   Why DB2 is acquiring exclusive-lock?, why not shared-lock?
b) Is it because of LUW?, Does application must issue 'EXEC CICS SYNCPOINT'?
c) Our applications are pseudo-convers. As soon as application returns
   control back to CICS, other user resumes. Is this the right way of issuing
   syncpoint implicitly?


I 'l appreciate your prompt response in this matter.

Regards to each and every one of you.
From: OPRIMS@SAUPM00.BITNET (Ilyas M. Shaikh)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.db2-l
Subject: QMF 240 and Table editor Concurrency problem
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:26:07 GMT
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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*** Nobody replied, sending 3rd time ***

The following problem occurs under QMF v2.4 with DB2 v220:-

User1 has just started his QMF session and he is at the blank add screen
of table editor for table T1. User2 runs a select query for table T1
at his terminal. Query fails with the following message:-

     The portion of the database you require is in use. SQL code -911.

I have following questions:

  a) This problem does n't occur under VM/SP., QMF v2.4 with SQL/DS v220.
     What is the difference ?
  b) Why table editor acquires x-lock right at the beginnig of ADD (blank
     add screen) ?
  c) QMF 3.1 allows the option of commit after each change to table, or
     to operate in same mode as QMF 2.4 (i.e. to hold database alterations
     until the seeion is completed.) Does QMF 3.1 solve above mentioned
     concurrency problem ?

I 'll appreciate your prompt reply in this regards. Thanks.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:21:00 EDT
From:         Pam Meyers <DBAPM@CUVMC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: QMF 240 and Table editor Concurrency problem; "Ilyas M.
              Shaikh" <OP

What possible good do you think resending your posting is going
to do? Please stop it.
                                            Pam Meyers
                                            DBAPM@CUVMC
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.db2-l
From: theacox@nyx.cs.du.edu (tim heacox)
Subject: DB2 locking/contention
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 18:49:35 GMT


I've had teh same problems with DB2/CICS systems, so I thoght I'd share m

solutions.
 
1.  Make sure LOCKING is PAGE.
2.  Create the tablespace as SEGMENTED.
3.  If the number of rows/page is high, consider adding a large unused
    column to reduce the number of rows/page.  This lessens page
    contention.
4.  Set FREEPAGE to something like 1-5 to spread out the data pages.
5.  Set PCTFREE to an appropriate value, not the default.
6.  Set the INDEX SUBPAGE to 16, this will cause DB2 to lock 1/16th of th

    index page rather than the whole index page.
 
I can look up more if needed.
 
Tim Heacox
thea@gwl.com



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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:29:10 PDT
From:         Yossie Silverman <YOSSIE@UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DMSDDL question...

Have you considered PIPES?  To read DMSDDL is simplicity itself with PIPES
(into a STEM or whatever.)  To write DMSDDL is a little more complicated,
but not too much.  You should join CMSPIP-L@MARIST and ask there.  - Yossie

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:06:00 EDT
From:         "John F. Chandler" <PEPMNT@CFAAMP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DMSDDL question...
              31 Aug 1992 12:38:58 +02

> (can be more than 132, the max for print).

Actually, you can define a 3800 printer and go out to 205.  Would that
be wide enough?

> program like DMSDDL for sending and receiving files, where the input data
> can come from a stem variable, and where the received data can be placed in
> a stem too.

There is a program for receiving, which exists in two forms, neither of
which is exactly what you want.  SPRSHO is available from the VM-UTIL
file store as a MODULE which can copy a received file onto the stack or
into a core buffer supplied by the caller; also, there is an ASSEMBLE
file that could be modified to write the output to a stem or whatever.
It ought to be fairly straightforward to write the corresponding send
program.  In fact, you could bypass the complexity of all the NETDATA
headers and write a sender that uses DISK DUMP or CARD DUMP format,
since both are supported by SPRSHO.
                                       John
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:21:14 EDT
From:         Dennis Boone <DRBMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More on the ERASE problem in CMS 7

>Reprise: invoking ERASE via SVC with CALLTYP=CMS misbehaves under CMS 7.
>The arguments in the EPLIST are used "as is", not upcased, even though
>the same PLIST+EPLIST passed to ERASE by the CMS command loop *does* get
>upcased.

I think we've seen this problem using FLIST in CMS 8.

Dennis Boone
Michigan State University
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:57:34 UEC
From:         ANA MARIA SEIXAS <CCUE010%ccvm.unicamp.br@CCSUN.UNICAMP.BR>
Subject:      LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
Comments: To: VM-UTIL%OHSTVMA.BITNET@ccsun.unicamp.br

We have three users in "LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING" at VM/XA SP2.1 9002C,
after problems with a 3274.
One of them is OPERATOR !!  How can we solve this problem ?  Is there
any way to alter control blocks ?
We would'nt like an IPL ...

Thanks, Ana.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:30:27 EST
From:         "Scott (nmi) Mattes" <COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
Comments: To: VM Utilities Discussion List <VM-UTIL@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
              3 Sep 1992 09:57:34 UEC from
              <CCUE010%ccvm.unicamp.br%CCSUN.UNICAMP.BR
              @OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:57:34 UEC ANA MARIA SEIXAS said:
>We have three users in "LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING" at VM/XA SP2.1 9002C,
>after problems with a 3274.
>One of them is OPERATOR !!  How can we solve this problem ?  Is there
>any way to alter control blocks ?
>We would'nt like an IPL ...

Ana,
  If you had V/FORCE from VM Systems Group this would be no problem.
But, you don't so....

  Have you tried sending a MSG or WNG to the id, sometimes I have seen
this work, but not very often.

  A last resort is to locate the VMBLOK (whatever it is called in
XA, I don't know) for the user and locate the userid field within that
block and change it to something else (HUNGUSER maybe).  You can then
log on, but you will probably have to link that user's RW mdisks as MW
to be able to write to those disks.
  This SHOULDN'T be a problem since the original OPERATOR id is hung up
and not processing anything.  At least in HPO there is a PSA field that
points to the address of the VMBLOK of the system operator, so you would
have to change that in order to receive operator messages (logon,
logoff, attach, detach, etc).

  At the very worst your system will abend and that will take care of
unhanging the ids.  At best you can limp along until an IPL is possible.

--------------------------------------+----------------------------------------
Scott (nmi) Mattes                    | No success can compensate for failure
Work: COTRSSM@SEA04VM.NAVSEA.Navy.Mil | in the home.  David O. McKay, Prophet
Home: 73027.3270@CompuServe.COM       | and President of the Church of Jesus
Voice: (703) 769-2917                 | Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1951-70
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:02:46 -0400
From:         Anthony Ng <CCENGNM@NUSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Spool space percentage wanted

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:00:00 GMT "David Quattlebaum"
<0005301799@MCIMAIL.COM> says:

>Subject:      Spool space percentage wanted
>
>I am looking for an exec that will show me the percent of spool space
>(i.e. rdrlist) used on our system.  I have TOTSPL.EXEC but that only shows
>the numbers of records.  I need to keep track of our space to determine
>how many days to allow the entries to live.  Once this is determined, I can
>run SPLCLEAN to rid them.
>
>We have VM/SP Rel 6.
>
>Thanks.
>--
>David Quattlebaum,   530-1799@MCIMail.com     (803) 771-5715
>Systems Programmer,  Baptist Medical Center,  Columbia SC, 29220
>"Why if only we were all wiener dogs, our problems would be solved."

I have written 2 execs that manage my spool space here. One to collect
spool space statistics. It generates reports on the top users, top
files, and also by group, ie Students, Staff, Postgraduate.

The other exec I've written backup and purge reader by a set of
criteria, eg Student's reader after 3 days, etc.

VMSPOOL by Systems Center is a good tool to manage your spool area.
I've not gotten it because we cannot afford :-(

IBM has an "internal" tool called SFPURGER that will purge (no backup)
reader by a set of criteria. "Internal" means they use it themselves
and may just give it to you free on the understanding that no support
comes with it. SFPURGER will comes together as standard tool with
VM/ESA.

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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:28:37 EDT
From:         Maynard Calkin <MSC3@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DMSDDL question...
              31 Aug 1992 12:38:58 +02 from <GUTEST6@CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>

On Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:38:58 +02 Kris Van Hees said:
>Hello,
>
>
>A CP patch (for VM/XA and maybe others) which would define, allow or whatever
>a printer with width 512 would be even better, of course.
>
In VM/ESA, APARS VM49444, VM49445, and VM49517 give you the ability to define a
virtual AFP printer which has a line width of 32,767 bytes. This support is
incorporated into ESA 1.1.

Maynard
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:34:00 EDT
From:         Richard Steed <STEED@UNCVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Misc
Comments: To: VMXA-L@UGA.BITNET, VMESA-L@UAFSYSB.BITNET, IBMTCP-L@PUCC.BITNET

      Greetings-

       *** Please forgive the cross-posting ***

          I have 4 questions (only 4 ???) about some PD software. Any and
 all help will be GREATLY appreciated!!!!!

          1. Has anyone gotten GOPHER to work in a VM/XA or VM/ESA
             environment?

          2. Has anyone gotten UNICORN to work with a TCP/IP interface?

          3. Has anyone gotten WAIS from Thinking Machines to work on VM?
             (Ive had a heck of a time w/the ascii<->ebcidc translations)

          4. Does anyone have a version of CURSES for VM?


                                thanks-for-any-help
                                        Richard


  Richard M. Steed                      Office of Information Technology
  VM Systems Programmer                 University of North Carolina
  STEED@UNCVM1.BITNET                   Chapel Hill, North Carolina
  STEED@UNCVM1.OIT.UNC.EDU              Phone  (919) 962-6501
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:40:40 CEN
From:         Jerry Harris <HARRIS@WKYUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      CPWATCH

We used to run a utility from the Waterloo tapes called CPWATCH.  When we
migrated to VM/XA, there was no XA version. Is anyone running CPWATCH on
XA and are you willing to share it??  If so, please send it to me through
BITNET.

Many Thanks,

Jerry Harris,
Systems Programmer
Western Kentucky University
HARRIS@WKYUVM
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:25:06 CST
From:         BATES@SMUVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
              3 Sep 1992 09:57:34 UEC from
              <CCUE010%ccvm.unicamp.br@CCSUN.UNICAMP.BR>

I have dealt with several users in LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING state. Different
things at different times. If any of them are on terminals controlled by
VTAM, sometimes they can be forced inact to get them off.

Do CP LOC userid to get the beginning of the user VMDBK. D HTaddr.1000
will display the block. If you have a DATA AREAS and CONTROL BLOCKS
book handy there are some places to check and can usually reset without
knocking the system down. Specifically around x'2A0 and x'38A. The user
to be logged off bit has to be reset in order to get the force to work.

I get these done a little better than 90% of the time. The rest of the
time I get the IPL, usually immediately due to a CP ABEND. Depends on
how bad they look.

If you like send me a copy of the VMDBK and I'll look.
Send to BATES@SMUVM1
     or BATES@vm.cis.smu.edu
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:36:25 PDT
From:         Craig Cholar <3432P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject:      YWAKEUP time problem

I'm using YWAKEUP to trap messages, and it works except I can't
get it to return a meaningful time value in the YWAKEUP.2 variable.
It's always off by about 7 hours or so.  I looked through the archives
and noticed someone suggested CP SET TIMER REAL and CP SET ECMODE ON,
but that doesn't help.  We are running VM/XA SP 2.1 CMS 5.6.
I got the MODULE from VM-UTIL.  I tried re-assembling the source
but I must be missing some MACLIB's because I get assembly errors.

So, how do I get that time to show something meaningful?

   Craig Cholar                                3432P@NAVPGS.BITNET
   Defense Manpower Data Center                3432P@CC.NPS.NAVY.MIL
   Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey Calif.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:43:42 PDT
From:         "Russell N. Hathhorn, VM Systems Support" <SYSMAINT@PCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Spool space percentage wanted

I use SFPURGER - it works quite well, once the 'rules' are established.

No problems with the code.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:36:32 EDT
From: David Barr <DSB100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Re: YWAKEUP time problem

Yep, I remember having this problem too.  My solution was to use
IBM's WAKEUP instead.  :-)  I think i remmember posting about it,
but i'm not sure now.  This was quite a few months ago.

(running VM/ESA 1.1, CMS 7 and 8)

Here's what I get now:

 TIME IS 17:55:37 EDT FRIDAY 08/28/92
 CONNECT= 08:29:20 VIRTCPU= 001:18.29 TOTCPU= 001:40.97
 Ywakeup time=00:23:53 Rexx time=17:55:37

--Dave
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:20:45 EST
From:         Nick Laflamme <NLAFLAMM@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Spool space percentage wanted

SFPURGER is also available through IPF and the IPF/XA Utilities, the
two predecessors to the CMS Utilities feature of VM/ESA.  Its
reputation in BITNET is, um, mixed.  I use it, but I don't watch it
rigorously, so I can't tell you that I'm sure it's doing exactly what
it's supposed to be doing.

Nick

* NLAFLAMM@IRISHVMA.BITNET
* Dominique.P.Laflamme.1@nd.edu
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:16:48 TUR
From:         RITTERBUS001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      RE: Disk full threshold
Comments: To: VM-UTIL%TREARN.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU

>Does anyone know how CMS decides when a disk is full?  Obviously,
[...]
(142 blocks used), the disk was deemed full, despite the existence of
8 free blocks.  Providing for the alternate directory requires only
3 blocks, so what's with the other 5?  I'm sure there is an algorithm

John
Very interesting question.  I don't have an answer, but just remember
the acronym Install Bigger Machines. <grin>

Another comment:  you mentioned that your disk was formatted with a
block size of 4K, and I believe that this is the officially "recommended"
block size.  While this is great for disks with large data files, for
general users I personally prefer 1K.  Since any block-allocated device
wastes, on average, half a block for every file on the disk, I have
been able to reduce my waste by 1.5K for every file on the disk.  This
allowed me to store quite a few more files.

Just a thought...
Jim
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:48:00 EDT
From:         "John F. Chandler" <PEPMNT@CFAAMP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SVC 202/204

> It would be mildly interesting to see if, say, RENAME shows the same
> change in behavior that ERASE does.  That might indicate if the change
> is in ERASE itself or in SVC 20x processing.

Nope.  Just ERASE.  The commands LISTFILE, COPYFILE, RENAME, and TYPE
all behave properly when invoked from a program.  It is only ERASE that
ignores the normal PLIST in that situation (in CMS 7, anyway).
                                            John
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:38:04 CDT
From:         Bill Hunter <BHUNTER@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:19:47 -0400 Anthony Ng said:
>On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:57:34 UEC, ANA MARIA SEIXAS
><CCUE010%ccvm.unicamp.br@CCSUN.UNICAMP.BR> says:
>
>>Subject:      LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING
>>
>>We have three users in "LOGOFF/FORCE PENDING" at VM/XA SP2.1 9002C,
>>after problems with a 3274.
>>One of them is OPERATOR !!  How can we solve this problem ?  Is there
>>any way to alter control blocks ?
>>We would'nt like an IPL ...
>>
>>Thanks, Ana.
>
>This problem has agitate us for quite a period of time, and IBM cannot
>do anything about it! Whenver our TCP/IP got a problem, we are bound
>to get LOGOFF/FORCE pending users calling us.  (...)

NETSTAT DROP xxxx has always fixed users who have telnet'ed to our VM/XA
system and somehow get into the 'LOGOFF/FORCE' state.  We are trying to
'train' our operators to NEVER 'CP FORCE' a user who is not disconnected.
We are doing this 'training' with a PROP action routine to check who is
being CP FORCE'd to verify they are in the appropriate state.

If they are on a VTAM 'terminal' then the LU can be "INACT,FORCE'ed".  If
they telnet in they can be "NETSTAT DROP'ed".  If they are on a CP owned
terminal (< 1% of our user base) they can hit the 'test/normal' switch.  The
above stuff will normally disconnect the user. Once they are disconnected,
the user can reconnect and "IPL CMS" "LOGOFF" or whatever at the 'CP READ'.

As the sign says 'your milage may vary....'

Bill Hunter
The U. of Alabama
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:21:58 PDT
From:         Yossie Silverman <YOSSIE@UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spool space percentage wanted

Donno about spool file percentages but spool file purging is EASY.  I have
a tiny REXX/PIPE exec that does it by lots of different criteria including
an exclude and conditional exclude control file.  PIPE does most of the
work by deciding which files go to each catagory and there is a small REXX
PIPE filter to do the actual checking.  The exclude mechanism is a single
PIPE with LOTS of smarts (I think anyway.)  Anyone interested, feel free
to ask.  - Yossie

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