From: slmxx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: D&D, religion, politics ets
Date: 7 Jan 93 09:32:24 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hello Friendly Gamers, and not so friendly religeous zealots...
Isn't just fascinating how our little net group has attracted all this
attention? 
Just to clarify, I thought this net group was D&D discusstion, not alt
politics...AM I WRONG?  
Don't know for sure, but doesn't this discussion on Christianity and politics
belong elsewhere?  

Why, the whole thing has degenerated into a petty discussion over who is
responsible for the lack of affluence in our society, morality questions of the
atom bomb in world war 2 and who knows what the hell (oops I might get accused
of being satanic) else is being posted here...
To flame or be quite frank with you all...QUIT PISSING, MOANING AND WHINING,
ABOUT ALL THE ILLS OF THE WORLD ON OUR NET...THIS IS A PLACE TO GET AWAY FROM
ALL THAT SELF RIGHTEOUS, ACTIVIST BULLSHIT...
SO WHAT IF A FEW PEOPLE WHO JUST HAPPEN TO PLAY DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS ARE ALSO
INVOLVED IN BLACK MAGIC OR SATANIC WORSHIP...THAT IS THEIR OWN PERSONAL HANG
UP..
Isn't it amusing how when it comes to owning up to the consequences of ones own
actions or lack of, its always the extremist activist out there who is jumping
up and down, foaming at the mouth, pissing, moaning and whimpering about all
the problems of the world and blaming everything and everyone for a handfull of
individuals mistakes, hangups and personal problems that resulted from poor
judgement?  
Isn't it about time (now I'm really putting on my existentialist hat) that
people started facing the fact that they are responsible for their own actions
and that it is impossible to live life according to a recipe, bible, game book
or whatever?  There is no definite path to correct choices, we all know this,
yet some would insist that because a few individuals who happen to play
AD&D,also happen to be involved in Black Magic (a non emperical mythological
concept) or satanic worship that ergo AD&D causes satanic worship or encourages
the practice of black magic.  This to you logisticians is a phallacy of
composition, and the assumption of a non existant causal relationship.  
An equally incorrect line of logic could be attempted saying: since so and so
was a person of a certain religeon, this person was a member of a group who
used the church house of that religeon to practice satanic rights when it was
vacant, then that religeon was responsible for the practice of satanic
rights... AS anyone can see this line of logic is also false.  It is obvious
that another variable could and does exist that causes people to get involved
with satanic worship other than gameing and that it is quite plausible that
people become involved in black magic or satanic worship in spite of their
involvement in other activities, church, Advanced Dungeons and Dragons,
whatever...
These people are just the victims of poor choices, but even worse, they are
people without dignity or self esteme as they fail to face the music, own up to
the consequences of their own choices.  No book, no recipe, notheing made the
choices for them, they made the choices themselves, of their own accord, they
could forsee the consequences of their actions and choices...
So..
Why don't these religeous zealots take their activist pissing and moaning
elsewhere and leave us alone, lest I continue to post the bennefits that gaming
provides for people ie friendship, reasoning, dramatic skill, logical
reasoning, and so on...
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The Existance of man precedes man as a Concept          SLMXX USU COLD HEARTED

Why don't a few more people read Sartre...

Type F for Flame and S for Stupidity and G for Gullible little sponges who cant
make their own choices and cry and whine that their mistakes are someone elses!

Lets Get Back To Gaming ON This Net and Purge these scum in the tradition of
STALIN!!!!!!!Mao!!!!!!CASTRO!!!!!BUSH!!!!!!OOOPS!!!!