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From: totake@ho13.eng.ua.edu (Thomas K. Otake)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bud
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:58:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

In article <hg2001-161192154538@m248-129.bgsu.edu> hg2001@mailserver.bgsu.edu (Heather) writes:
>Doesn't anyone like Bud anymore??  My personal fave is Bud Dry.
>
>Heather

Well, when I was in Europe, I had quit a few Budweisers and they were
excellent.  Of course this BUD was from Chechoslovakia, not the US, and is
worlds apart from the piss water which is brewed in this country.  So, since
you are most likely refering to the american junk, NO I HATE IT and would
rather have no beer then touch that stuff, as a matter of fact the only 
american beer I like is Samuel Adams.

Tom

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From: scw54193@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nsane )
Subject: FAQ???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:55:30 GMT

Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?  Just couroius.   If there is, where can I 
FTP it from?


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From: zedaker@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller)
Subject: "RE:colorado civil rights-listen up!", etc.  etc....
Keywords: AAAAAHHHHGGGG!!!!!!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:29:05 GMT

All of this started when some idiot posted something that does not belong  
on alt.beer!!!!

AAAAAHHHGGGGG!!!!   GO AWAY  GO AWAY   !!!!!
From: serls@dashs.denver.co.us (Dave Serls)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Good English Ales 
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:17:12 GMT
Organization: Sorry Software

Peter.Hammond@brunel.ac.uk writes in article <By6BKv.6BK@brunel.ac.uk>:
>
> Hi. Sadly, the same is true of British beers. I suppose it applies all over the> world: when commerce and volume take over, quality falls, but it's only then
> that there is enough left over to export. I personally agree with a previous
> poster: Batemans is good if you can get it. Bass can be OK. Look for bottles,
> Eldridge Pope you might get. In essence, avoid the big british brewer's
> products (Whitbread, Courage, Scottish & Newcastle, and one other that I
> can't remeber right now.) Though having said that, S&N make Newcastle Brown,
> which is a fair example of the style. (not my bag.)
>
>
I yet retain a fond memory of visiting the U.K. some three years
ago.  I stayed in Sussex and recall the King & Barnes festival
ale.  This may not seem much to the locals; however, I was astounded
with the richness of taste, and also dumbfounded by the strength.
I believe I walked straight into a low-hanging beam in one of the
Elizabethan pubs after two pints (no sense, no feeling).

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From: loewenst@cs.rutgers.edu (David Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: The Best Beer
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:22:27 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Whippany, NJ
In-reply-to: cnc@sweep.bt.co.uk's message of 16 Nov 92 19:41:23 GMT

Has anyone else tried Eger Urbier, from Czechoslovakia (or whatever
its name is this month)?  A pilsner with a fruity (fig-like) flavor.
I wonder if the fruit flavor is an additive or just a result of the
process.

These opinions are shareware.  If you like the product,
please send your $0.02 to
               David Loewenstern
<loewenst@paul.rutgers.edu>||<d.loewenstern@att.com>


 
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From: robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert)
Subject: Re: Cask Ale; Thomas Hardy
Originator: robl@macro
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:26:07 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.212825.27570@msc.cornell.edu>, bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038) writes:
|> From article <1992Nov17.201506.7336@viewlogic.com>, by robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert):
|> > 
|> > In article <1ebeagINNd2j@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
|> > |> ...Calling it [Thomas Hardy's] a barley wine, therefore, is hardly
|> > |> innaccurate.  (On the other hand, calling Sam Adams Lager a Pilsner
|> > |> would be).
|> > 
|> >    Out of curiosity, why (unless you're using the purist definition whereby
|> > a Pilsner must come from Pilsen) would calling Sam Adams Lager a Pilsner
|> > be inaccurate?
|> 
|> It is inaccurate because a pilsener is a type of lager, but not vice-versa.
|> Other types of lagers include Dortmunder Export, Oktoberfest, Munich
|> Dunkel, and Bock beers to name a few.  A Pilsener usually denotes a lager
|> in either of the Bohemian and Bavarian styles, and for what it's worth, 
|> Budmilloors are American Standard Lagers.  I would probably call Sam Adams
|> lager an "American Amber Lager", although that is not usually one of
|> the choices.
|> 
|> Just when you thought ordering beer was simple ;-)
|> 						Scott

   I don't think I _ever_ thought it was simple, at least not since I was in
college, drinking only Old Milwaukee :-).

   Still, I'd argue that Sam Adams Lager fits essentially all the
qualifications of a Pilsner (except, of course, that it's not from Pilsen).
It's a lager with a gravity of about 1050, a hoppy palette, a flowery,
hoppy aroma, and a golden color. 

   And, though I feel guilty appealing to higher authority, Michael Jackson's
'New World Guide to Beer' calls Sam Adams the best example of a Pilsner 
produced in the U.S.. It may no longer be the best (that book's about 3 
years old), but I believe it's still a Pilsner by style. It isn't normally 
marketed as such, though I seem to remember one radio ad that referred to it 
as a Pilsner.

   
Rob
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From: jornaa@fdh.hsf.no (Joern Aasland)
Subject: Re: Norwegian Beers
Organization: Finnmark College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:23:50 GMT
Reply-To: jornaa@fdh.hsf.no

In article 1eh6qkINN3vq@koh-sun4.usc.edu, cmartine@koh-sun4.usc.edu (Christopher Martinez) writes:

>
>Aass Bock is my personal favorite.
>
>Chris
>cmartine@usc.edu

Aass brewery has a lot of different brews, A lot of ordernary 
good beer. In my oppinion "Fatoell" is the best brew of Aass.

Jorn.

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From: zedaker@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller)
Subject: RE: GOOD BEER
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:55:14 GMT

In article <92316.175608AJS149@psuvm.psu.edu> <AJS149@psuvm.psu.edu>  
writes:
> I WANT TO KNOW A REALLY GOOD BEER???? ANYONE????????

Well, I usually prefer homebrew but when I can't get that, I like most  
dark and pale ales.  I also enjoy a good stout from time to time.  Also a  
good...well I'm not sure how to spell it but it's pronounced "marzen".

There is a huge amount of brands out there.  Try to stick to imports or  
micro breweries.  Sam Addams and Anchor Steam are a couple of good  
American beers also.  I usually go to a place in Columbia, MD called "Bun  
Penny" to try individual bottles of stuff.  I'm not sure where you are,  
but there must be a place like this that sells a wide variety of good  
beers to choose from that you can buy by the bottle.

I hope this helps you.

--Pam
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From: M.Enderby@daresbury.ac.uk
Subject: guinness
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: serc daresbury
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:30:00 GMT

Not that this affects the US, but Guinness have announce that they're
axing their bottle-conditioned Original as from next April. They say
that this will result in a more manageable and consistent product (sic).
BULLSHIT ! Over the past 10 years, Guinness have gone down the road
of reducing quality and hiking prices and are showing all the
sensitivity of the buds of this world.
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: math1rb@rosie.uh.edu (92F07486)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Buddywiser
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:58 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I don't know if this is true but someone once told me that Bud is one of the
sweetest beers (at least of the megabrews). If this true, then that may be
why I prefer Bud, I like sweet stuff. Now I like Guiness and a few ales,
but not every place has these on tap. So sometimes we have to sacrifice...
  My wife likes Bud Dry...probably because it doesn't "taste" like beer..
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From: rone@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ronald Elshaug)
Subject: Re: How about something new?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:33:04 GMT
Reply-To: timfair@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

Has anyone tried Aktien Dunkel Export or Ayinger Dunkel?
After trying these, Dunkels went way up on my list of most
liked styles of beers.  Anyone have a good Dunkel recipe
they'ed like to post (prefer a Extract recipe)?  How does 
Miller's (in his book) Munich Dunkel recipe taste?

Aktien also makes a Helles (called HELL) which is quite good.

-RonE
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: How about something new?
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:50:46 GMT

goddard@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bart E. Goddard) writes:

>In other news, I think Ive got my wife tricked into getting me some  
>homebrewing equipment for Christmas this year.  I hope things work out.

Why trick her?  Just let her know that for the price of anywhere from
$15.00-25.00 (excluding initial setup charges), you can make a batch
of homebrew which yields approx. 2.5 cases.  The average alcohol content
has always been between 6% and 7% for me and the taste is great!

If you can take the time and devote the energy to making homebrew, you
will be VERY happy (at least I am)

allen

p.s.  my next venture is making my own wine and champagne, but that'll
      have to wait until next year's harvest of grapes.


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From: mwpeters@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Peterson)
Subject: Re: Cask Ale; Thomas Hardy
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20:25:07 GMT


Wondering if there is any other beers out there like Thomas Hardy?
Or is it unique?


Michael W Peterson
93peterson@alma.edu
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From: crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ernest Crvich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Bud
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:41:29 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <1992Nov16.210805.20991@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>In article <hg2001-161192154538@m248-129.bgsu.edu> hg2001@mailserver.bgsu.edu (
>Heather) writes:
>>Doesn't anyone like Bud anymore??  My personal fave is Bud Dry.
>>
>2)  Buy six bottles of Samuel Adams Boston Lager.

   Hmmm...my personal approach would be to start with some flavor.  Perhaps
begin with an Anchor Steam.  If that's too tasty, then a Boston Lager may
be of some value.  Otherwise, a sampling of Dos Equis, New Amsterdam New
York Ale, and Sam Adams Wheat will provide a fairly nice (and not too
expensive) example of what's to come.  From there, you can quickly move to
the English ales, the German lagers, and several of the porters and stouts
from Ireland and America (e.g., Guinness, Yuengling, Grant's, Sierra Nevada,
Anchor, etc.).  And there is so much more...lambics, Pilsner Urquell, barley
wines, etc., etc.
   The Boston Lager seems to be held with some high regard, but my taste
buds can't seem to find any flavor in the bottle.  It is slightly better
than any American megabrewed sewage, but not drastically.  Heck, the Boston
Ale has a much fuller taste, almost as much hop character as some of the
English pale ales.  I still fail to see the appeal of the Lager.  I'm
confident some of the alt.beer readers will try to enlighten me, though. :)
   However, the important thing is that it tastes good to you.  You must
take the time to sample at least a few of what the world (and America's
micro-breweries) has to offer.  If, after all is said and drank, you still
like Bud Dry, then so be it...I'll try not to hold it against you.  ;)
 
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From: sfysh@epas.utoronto.ca (Stephanie Moskal Fysh)
Subject: Re: Please post 53 reasons why beer is better than womem
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:47:29 GMT
Keywords: 53 reasons

In article <1992Nov14.203454.11174@ncsu.edu> sswoo@eos.ncsu.edu (SANG SIK WOO) writes:
>If there is anybody who has the listing of 53 reasons why
>beer is better than women, please post it to this news group.
>
>Many of us are interested to read them

Please *don't*.  Many readers/posters in this newsgroup are women.  We
drink and brew beer too.  Keep it in rec.humor please.

Stephanie Fysh
From: mbc472@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: <None>
Summary: Here's how it is in Minnesota...
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:39:29 GMT
Organization: Minnesota State University System

All I know is that if it weren't for Old Milwaukee (Roadkillwaukee)
not one individual in Minnesota could possibly have graduated from any 
institution of higher learning in the last 8-10 years.
From: zen@hophead (Nick Zentena)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: New to Good Beer
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 13:34:00 EDT
Distribution: NA
Organization: The Hop Head Saloon

ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
>
> In article <1992Nov19.224103.24667@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
> >
> >$3.90 a sixpack versus the $5.59 it costs in my area, I am certain that
> >there would be a great realignment in North American drinking habits
> >(you Canadians are welcome to try it too).
> 
> Having been in Canada for a conference last week I am now a believer in
> the old axiom that Canadian beer tastes much better in Canada than the US.
> You can actually taste the hops in a Molson Export, while Golden sold
> here is tasteless crap that reminds me of regular American beer.  And
> Moosehead, sold here, is a totally unremarkable beer.  Unfortunately,   
> Ontario beer laws being what they are, I couldn't sample Cnadian brews
> from elsewhere in Canada, but nonetheless the Molson products and Sleemans
> Ale, while not totally awsome, were a hell of a lot better than I expected.


        While I wouldn't reccomend any of the Sleemans I've
        tasted some of the Molson products are drinkable.
        The porter doesn't seem to be available any longer.
        I would suggest Wellington's products [especially
        cask conditioned], Conners,Upper Canada and Niagra
        Falls brewing[Thier stout is quite nice and the
        maple syrup beer is also very interesting]

        Did you compare local Molson golden [imho coloured
        water] to the stuff exported to the US?

> 
> Was the beer war ever settled?  I did notice Bud on tap up there in a few
> places.  Since I only drink it when there is nothing else here, I wasn't going
> to check and see if it was the same.

        I'd bet that was "local" bud.[i.e. brewed by either
        Molsons or Labatts] I've seen very little US made
        draft sold here. I don't think any of the licensed
        products can be imported.

        Nick
> 
> 

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From: jdisegi@bu.edu (Jonathan Disegi)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Newcastle's
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:48:53 GMT
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Newcastle Brown Ale is one of the best beers made that is easily avalable and
not too expensive.  British and Belgian and Danish beers are best. Most american
beers are pisswater.

Has anyone tried:
1) Le fruit Defandu, from Belgium.
2) Mackeson's Triple Stout
3) Yuengling Porter
4) Sam Smith's Winter Welcome Brew
5) Duvel
6) Thor
7) Tuborg
8) Belgian Lambics

Keep drinking the Good stuf.

Jonathan Disegi
Boston University
(jdisegi@acs.bu.edu)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:16:39 EST
From: <FGG1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: New book - Wisconsin
 <1992Nov18.154425.1@fnalo.fnal.gov>

I got to agree about Point.  I spent 17 years at Madison and probably tried
most of the local beers, especially those from Monroe--Huber I used to like.
But what about the local Middleton/Madison beer--Gartenbrau.  They have a
super lager,adark, andaspecial.  At various times (October) they have
Octoberfestbeer.  I sure wish we could get beer of that quality here in the
middle of Pennsylvania.  Are there any good local beers available near Penn
State?  Thanks for your help.  And to all living near Madison
Wisconsin--drink Gartenbrau!
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From: rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman)
Subject: Re: Good English Ales
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:56:57 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Health Sciences, Ann Arbor
Distribution: umich
Reply-To: rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman)
Originator: rob@gaspra


There's nothing quite like a Fuller's ESB - better on draft, but decent in the bottle
just the same....
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From: mk@aisb.ed.ac.uk (Michael Keightley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: guinness
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:35:38 GMT
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

In article <1992Nov16.113000.6565@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> M.Enderby@daresbury.ac.uk writes:

   Not that this affects the US, but Guinness have announce that they're
   axing their bottle-conditioned Original as from next April. They say
   that this will result in a more manageable and consistent product (sic).
   BULLSHIT ! Over the past 10 years, Guinness have gone down the road
   of reducing quality and hiking prices and are showing all the
   sensitivity of the buds of this world.
   Cheers,
	   Mark
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I agree,  like most big brewers they have no interest in brewing
quality beer,  they are only interested in profits.
Does anyone know if they are getting rid of proper bottled Guinness in
Ireland as well?  It's just that I might be in Dublin in Feb.  Draught
Guinness in Ireland is probably the most over-rated beer I have ever
tried,  it is also now pasteurised so probably even more so!
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