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From: macduff@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Washing the dishes (and Coronation Street)
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:42:54 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <714829588.22559@minster.york.ac.uk>, pete@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> Tim Oldham (tjo@its.bt.co.uk) wrote:
> : 
> : To continue the Coro angle: isn't Angie brilliant? It's more than Curly
> : deserves to have her living in the same house. Let's hope that any
> : suitor is up to scratch.
> 
> Well she's a lot better than Kimberley... poor old Curly...
> 
> Time for alt.coronation-street?

HERE !! HERE!! ONE VOTE FOR

> 
> Pete
> --
> *Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
> Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
> EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built up areas'
	
					Thomas


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From: banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Washing the dishes
Date: 26 Aug 92 09:14:27 GMT
Organization: ISCA

Isn't cultural difference a wonderful thing.  When I was in the US about
ten years ago I was amazed that my hostess stopped the dishwasher about
half way through its cycle and stuck a sort of shower (attached to the
nearby sink) in to rinse off the dishes.  One reason for having a 
washing up bowl is, as mentioned by someone else, to pour half empty
cups of tea down, the other is that you can leave the cold tap running
(no water metering here - yet) and rinse off the dishes after they come out
of the hot soapy water.  Friends of mine in France taught me to be paranoid
about the chemical horrors of washing up liquid left to dry on utensils.

But what has this got to do with TV? Apart from Coronation St, we had a 
genre about 25 years ago of 'kitchen sink dramas'.  In reaction to all the
evening-gowned 'hostess' presenters on the BBC at the time, and lots of
upper-class people generally ruling the airwaves, drama producers began
setting dramas in gritty northern working class kitchens, where drunken
husbands would swear at their wives who were doing the washing up and 
cooking black pudding and things.  I can't remember the names of any of
these right now, but someone out there ought to be able to come up with
a few.

Marcus Banks
Oxford
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Satellite TV
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:35:52 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Synapse Computer Consultants
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Grim Reaper) writes:
: 
: 
:  We have just got our Sky TeeVee dish installed, what so you wanna discuss??
: 

Oh, I don't know, what equipment do you have?  D2MAC?  Any Euro film
channels?  What do you tyink of Sky...etc.

This group has long since talked about terrestrial telly, but satellite
is also a pretty big area...just looking to talk with people about
what they think about Sky and so on..

BTW....I noticed that Sky Sports was not encrypted yestereday...I
was told it was supposed to be.  Indeed, I wrote to Sky and told
them to leave me alone becasue I was patently UNINTERESTED in sky
sports...the wrote back and said ok, hop eyou chane your mind...I
have hte funny feelying I'm being charged for sky sports even though
I don't want it...

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: British Household Habits (was: washing the dishes)
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:19:32 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

fletcher@rtf.bt.co.uk (Catherine Fletcher) writes:

> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes:
> > Since we're on the subject of British household habits, let me mention
> > one which I found very interesting during a long stay in Britland.
> > Toast.  In racks.  On the breakfast table, possibly for hours.  Stone
> > cold.  I always enjoyed the idea of the racks, which enable the frosty
> > air of the dining area to circulatee freely and render the toast as
> > cold as possible.
> 
> A freshly toasted slice of bread is so hot at first that if you put it straig
> onto your plate for spreading it causes condensation on the plate and one sid
> of the toast gets soggy.  So if you let it cool off for a few seconds in an
> upright position it will be just right.  Of course toast is not supposed to 
> lie in the racks for hours. 
> 
> They are normally used by hotels and restaurants as a serving implement, I me
> how do they serve toast in the US?  Not piled high on a plate, I hope!

I'm afraid you are right.  Except that everyone gets their slice of toast
on little individual plates.  But depending on how good the service is,
the toast is probably not hot enough to get soggy.  :)
> 
> Anyway how can you say that when American bacon doesn't appear to come from
> pigs or any other kind of animal.  It's always titchy, fried to a crisp, and
> essentially tasteless.  Plus there doesn't seem to be any variety of bacon...
> And butter!! etc. etc. whine whine...

Hmmm ugly American that I am...I like my bacon crisp.  :)
> 
> Also all houses, halls of residence, flats I've lived in have been fully
> centrally heated, and I think America is obsessed with air conditioning; all
> you have to do is open windows [alright, that's enough, what newsgroup is thi
> anyway?].

Well, I've never lived in a place that had central air, so I've always opened
a window and turned on a fan.  But in defense of those that use air 
conditioning, it is really nice when it is really hot, and you live an
an area that is hot all summer and NEVER rains.  So when opening a window
does nothing but let the heat in, air conditioning can be real nice.
Oh and this is rec.america.bash right??  <Ok, one more smiley for the
humor impaired.  :-)  >


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Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
From: ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Young Ones
Keywords: Niel, Vivian, Rick, Mike, that terrible Alexy Sayle guy.
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:34:03 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

eric@homebase.vistachrome.com (Eric Brunson) writes:

> I have been a long time fan of The Young Ones and have many recorded of
> the episode they showed on MTV.
> 
> Does anyone know how many episodes were made?  How many seasons the show
> ran?  How well did it go over in the UK?  I saw one episode ( Flood ) while i
> I was living in England in 82 or 83, was that when it was new?
> Anyone else a fan?

  I enjoyed The Young Ones on MTV, as well.  A friend of mine showed me a 
video she had taped of the gang doing a parody of Queen's _Bohemian 
Rhapsody_;  it was sickly funny (as is everything else they do! ;))  They 
interpreted the lyrics into twisted reality while also keeping some of 
Queen's video "intact" in the same style as Wierd Al Yankovic... I don't 
know where she got the tape; indeed, I don't know if she still has it!  
But I'll ask her if any interest in it is shown (it's only 6-7 minutes 
long as far as I can remember...)

  Have you seen "Rick" in _Drop Dead Fred_?  I loved the movie because he 
was in it, and did quite an admirable job at acting childish... ;)  (he 
was playing an imaginary friend!)

  Stay Safe!

              Yours in Time and Space,

                  Ekho (Killer Queen, Dynamite with a Laser Beam)
From: kstephen@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kay Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Washing the dishes
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:30:07 GMT
Organization: Workstation Products Division F&A - Dayton, OH

<1992Aug21.110416.24815@abekrd.co.uk> <9857@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM>
Reply-To: kstephen@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kay Stephenson)
Organization: Workstation Products Division F&A - Dayton, OH

In article <9857@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM> tjgerman@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM
(Trevor German) writes:
>
>       The reason they use a basin to wash the dishes is historical.
                   ^^^^
Did I miss something.  I thought the original question was why the British
used wash up basins, as if they were unique.  My mother always used a good old
fashioned American "dish pan".  In fact, despite the dishwasher, I have one
under my sink as well.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: Igor Blimey (was Gordon Bennett)
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:39:11 GMT


Now that we've been introduced to Messers Bennet and Blimey, can someone
please shed some light on Eee Bye Gum (as in, Lancashire)?

-- 
Mike Godfrey	          "I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty.
Dept of Comp Sci, UofT     I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty."
migod@turing.toronto.edu			   -- The Simpsons
From: tjgerman@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Trevor German)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Washing the dishes
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:03:35 GMT
Reply-To: tjgerman@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Trevor German)
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA


	The reason they use a basin to wash the dishes is historical.

	When I was a kid the sink was huge, a big porcelain thing like
	a laundry tub. If you had to fill this thing with enough hot water
	to wash the dishes it would cost a fortune. The hot water often
        had to be boiled in a kettle  so it took time too. So a basin was
	placed in the sink such that less water was used.

	As more modern kithen sinks came on line the old habit was so well
	established that it has not died out. The other reasons mentioned
	are all good reasons to use a basin but not the original one.
	
 
--
       >| "Only average people           | Trevor J German BSc    |<
       >|       never make mistakes."    | NCR, Waterloo, Ontario |<
       >|	               	         | Canada.                |<
From: andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Clews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Thunderbirds on CNN
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:47:07 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

a@b (?) writes:
: The CNN piece was short (1 minute) and said merchandising
: of the old model kits is very lucrative in England and 
: that one store even managed to stay afloat during the
: tough economic times due to sales of the kits.
: 
: Has anyone in England or Japan seen/built any of the
: re-released kits?

A friend of mine is currently building TB3. Looks good. Comet
Miniatures of Clapham, SE London does loads of TB kits and lots of
other sci-fi kits besides, but TB stuff should be available from
almost any hobby/toy shop.

: It has been good for ITV too. Apparently they get 10% of the
: profits on all the Thunderbirds products.

Shome mishtake shurely? TB was repeated on BBC; it has nothing to do
with ITV.
-- 
Andy Clews, Computing Service, Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, England
JANET: andy@uk.ac.sussex.syma      OTHER NETWORKS: andy@syma.sussex.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.comedy.british
From: jhc@iscp.bellcore.com (Jonathan Clark)
Subject: Blackadder's Christmas Carol now available in North America
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 16:27:30 GMT
Summary: shipping Oct 8

My latest issue of Signals arrived yesterday, and it contains an
advert for this show, thus completing the set of videos on NTSC
(excluding the Staradder sketch). Ordering information:

	Xmas Carol	#22107	$19.95	43 minutes on 1 tape
	1st series	#19611	$39.95	180 minutes on 2 tapes
	2nd series	#21295	$39.95	180 minutes on 2 tapes
	3rd series	#16736	$39.95	180 minutes on 2 tapes
	4th series	#21301	$39.95	180 minutes on 2 tapes

The Carol video is marked as being shipped starting October 8.

	Signals
	P.O.Box 64428
	St Paul
	MN 55164-0428
	(800) 669 9696

Signals is a publication of WGBH Educational Foundation. I have no
connection with them except as a satisfied customer.

-- 
Jonathan Clark
jhc@iscp.bellcore.com

The Englishman never enjoys himself except for some noble purpose.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: kguinn@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Kip J. Guinn)
Subject: Number of Episodes in Brit TV Series
Originator: kguinn@zephyr.cair.du.edu
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:50:25 GMT

The local PBS station was running episodes of "Waiting for God" and
"Keeping up Appearances", and they stopped after about 6 of each.

I realize these may be fairly new and not have many episodes to sell,
and I also understand that the Brits do their TV differently in terms
of the number of episodesper year, BUT:

I don't understant how they can make shows that only run for 6-10
weeks per year.  Here in the US, most shows make about 24-26 episodes,
so that for at least half of the year, people watch new episodes.  The
rest of the year is taken up with repeats in the summer, preemtions (hmm,
that's not a real word :-) with sporting/political/special events,
etc.  My question is:  what is the normal number of episodes for the
"average" Brit TV series (per year)?  Are there more episodes of
"Waiting..." and "Keeping"?  Or is the local PBS station keeping with
tradition of buying just a few episodes of a show, and showing them
all out of order (like they did with Red Dwarf, much to my eternal
chagrin)...

Thanks for any info!

kip
From: gmeg@oasis.icl.co.uk (Guy Megson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:46:48 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

: Red Dwarf has started playing (again?, New episodes?) here in Southern
: California.  Does anybody know of an existing newsgroup where this is being
: discussed?
:

  Steve, 

        Try 'alt.tv.red-dwarf'. Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for
        breakfast.


    Cheers,
              Guy. (Dev Programmer ICL(UK))
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Stinkers: Dempsey and Makepeace
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:21:40 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

John Francis (johnf@apollo.hp.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug26.013128.27086@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> dunlop_f@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
: >We had D & M here in New Zealand. I reckoned it wasn't too bad. 
: >I liked the Ford Escort one of them drove.
: 
: Cosworth Sierra, I believe.  What with that and Soo Lin . . . .
: 
: -- 
: John Francis                                johnf@apollo.hp.com
: The world can be divided into two classes :-
:  those who divide people into two classes, and those who don't.

End of an era - the Sierra Cosworth will cease to be manufactured at the end
of this year. Blame the recession and insurance premiums.

Pete
--
*Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built up areas'
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Capitol City
From: Robert Chambers <RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 18:35:48 EDT
Organization: CUNY/UCC VM Systems

My local PBS station is starting to show a programme called CAPITAL CITY
(I think that's what it's called)  What's it like? is it worth watching
or should I watch my Thomas the Train videos instead?

Robert
From: colins@praxis.co.uk (Colin Shield)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Right To Reply
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:07:28 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Warwick, U.K.

I was watching _Right To Reply_ on BBC1 one Sunday a few months ago,
and nobody else I have spoken to watched it, so I'm just wondering if
anybody on the Net saw it. One of the discussion points was an episode
of _That's Life_. (I just want to point out at this stage that I NEVER
watch _That's Life_). The complaints seemed to be aimed at a 'funny'
article the _TL_ team did about a phone box in the middle of a traffic
island and the problems any blind people would have trying to reach it
(quality programming!).

Instead of doing a serious item they did a Benny Hill-esque visually
funny slapstick thing (ie. NOT funny) with one of the presenters
pretending to be blind, complete with guide dog.

Anyway the complaints to Right To Reply went along the lines of "If
any blind people were watching they would have been very upset by the
whole thing ridiculing them". They had interviews with the producer
and all sorts of 'serious' stuff, complete with apologies if they
offended any blind people WATCHING.

Was I the only one that noticed this small point and found it funny,
the item in Right To Reply, not That's Life of course.

Colin Shield

NB: If any blind people are reading this I want to apologise if I have
offended anybody.
From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Pelvic dirt" Neilski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: New Morse
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:53:50 GMT
Reply-To: nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: University of Reading

neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:

>The next series of Inspector Morse is going to be the last one. They are
>about to finish the shooting and the article was talking about the
>final episode which is going to be a real blockbuster one.

Is that going to be the one where we find out his first name and lots of
his past?  Or was that the end of the previous series (which I missed)?

>Morse will be playing opposite a character played by John Gielgoud (sp?)
Gielgud

Any hints as to when it will be shown?

-- neilski

-- 
nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk  \--------------------------------------------------
----------------------------\ Life is for living, jam is for giving,
love should be spread, and I'm off to bed.                 -- Brian the snail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: Ken Urquhart <urquhart@sfu.ca>
Subject: Thunderbirds/Stingray show times on YTV
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Xxdate: Thu, 3 Sep 92 09:17:42 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CB1836FA011C19@rs12-annex3.sfu.ca>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:17:15 GMT
X-Posted-From: rs12-annex3.sfu.ca
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

 
     YTV (Canadian Cable station) *finally* announced when Thunderbirds
and
     Stingray will be starting:
     
          Thunderbirds:   Friday September 11 at 7:00 p.m.
          Stingray:     Saturday September 12 at 7:30 p.m.
     
     Check your local TV guide for exact times and dates because the
     announcer on YTV said "Friday September 12" and "Saturday September
13"
     which are both off by one day.
     
     Now if only someone would post the episode guides...
     
     Ken
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley)
Subject: Re: Number of Episodes in Brit TV Series
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:32:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.205025.2639@mercury.cair.du.edu> kguinn@zephyr.cair.du.edu (Kip J. Guinn) writes:
--lead in about British TV shows deleted--
>
>I don't understant how they can make shows that only run for 6-10
>weeks per year. 

Actually, I would enjoy a little more variety on the US major nets.
With all of these shorter serials there is more room for experimentation
with shows, more room for variety, and more opportunities for viewers to
watch different types of shows.

> Here in the US, most shows make about 24-26 episodes,
>so that for at least half of the year, people watch new episodes. 

Actually, a shows usually starts with 13 eps if it is expected to be 
really wonderful and then runs a few repeats around Christmas while it
rushes to make another 13.   This few weeks also sometimes features
those series that only sell 6 episodes as an initial run (ie-Young
Indiana Jones Chronicles).   If these do well, expect to see a full
26 eps next season (read that, beginning the next fall).

>  My question is:  what is the normal number of episodes for the
>"average" Brit TV series (per year)?  Are there more episodes of
>"Waiting..." and "Keeping"?  Or is the local PBS station keeping with
>tradition of buying just a few episodes of a show, and showing them
>all out of order (like they did with Red Dwarf, much to my eternal
>chagrin)...

Feel free to correct me from the other side, but I believe a "series"
in the UK is 6 eps.   Remember that your local PBS station is acting
independently for most purchases and can probably only buy one
"series" of a show at a time.   Another fun thing a friend has found
out from the New Hampshire PBS station is that sometimes something is
purchased via satellite feed, so if there is a pre-emption afoot, 
the feed must be taped but cannot be altered, so a pre-empted ep 
must be broadcast at the end.   Very tiresome!   Also, when watching
these UK shows, remember to check for copyright dates.  Some of the
things we are seeing now were made over 3 years ago and are only now
being marketed worldwide by the BBC.

--Margaret



Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
From: ajn@physics.wm.edu (Alastair Neil)
Subject: Re: Americanising of the UK, Now: British
Reply-To: ajn@physics.wm.edu
Organization: Rio de Caca Illuminati
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:14:07 GMT

In article 7610@dcs.qmw.ac.uk, mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.214059.5243@macc.wisc.edu> husted@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Jack) writes:
>>
>>Now, would someone PLEASE enlighten me as to the origin of the
>>phrase GORDON BENNETT used most often by Ace?  I assume he
>>must have been infamous to have his name become an epithet.
>>An American example is 'Your name is Mudd.'  I would
>>appreciate the particulars on GB.
>>
>This usage obviously originated at a time when it was felt
>offensive to use "God!" as an exclamation, so people finding
>themselves using it quickly lengthened it to "Gordon-Bennet".
>Perhaps this is not obvious in the USA because there, the first
>syllable of Gordon-Bennet is not pronounced exactly as the word
>God. The usage became so common that people picked it up as a
>sort of jocular exclamation without being aware of its origin.
>

I thought this too, but couldn't think of an appropriate blasphemy
to suit. Example: blimey, common British/cockney exclamation, 
short for: gor-blimey, slang for "God blind me".
Streuth - God's truth, etc. 



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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.comedy.british
From: catstyle@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (CatStyle )
Subject: Re: Blackadder's Christmas Carol now available in North America
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:59:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.162730.8346@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jhc@iscp.bellcore.com (Jonathan Clark) writes:
>(excluding the Staradder sketch). Ordering information:

For the benefit of my co-worker, what was the Staradder sketch?
(It's a girl using a Mac, wonder upon wonder that she doesn't
know how to post...)

Thanks,

CatStyle
jrh@uiuc.edu