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From: fletcher@remus.rutgers.edu (Sean A Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Moving to California
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:53:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


A friend and I are faced with the problem of moving to California.
As plane tickets are so expensive and train tickets are comparable,
compounded with the thought of moving all our belongings, we decided
it might be benificial for us to consider renting a UHaul (or other
truck rental agency, like Ryder, with a one-way drop off
consideration).  This, however, is very expensive, too.  

What we were thinking is that if someone else reading this message
were to know somebody who could use the services of a UHaul and its
drivers leaving on or about September 18th from the New Brunswick,
New Jersey area and travelling to the Los Angeles, California area,
we could probably work out an affordable option for you.

Please contact me immediately if you feel your interests coincide with
ours.  My e-mail addresses are as follows (take your pick).

	fletcher@remus.rutgers.edu
	fletcher@gandalf.rutgers.edu
	fletcher@zodiac.rutgers.edu

thanks.
Sean
From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Need recommendations: places to stay in Hana
Keywords: Hana Maui Hawaii
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:35:17 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business


We stayed at Aloha Cottages in January, 1991.  They are very spacious
with full kitchens and quite nice.  They were also the cheapest palce
to stay beside the cottages at Waianapepe, which were all booked.

SJM
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From: kerry@citr.uq.oz.au (Kerry Raymond)
Subject: Re: Eurail Pass and Supplements.
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 04:42:06 GMT

There are no "fast train" supplements payable with a Eurail pass
but there are some "special train" supplements which you do have to
pay for.

About 12 months ago, we travelled from Rome to Venice on a train which
appeared to be pretending to be an aeroplane. Same seating, magazines
brought around, meals brought on little trays, etc.

We didn't know that this was going to happen (nothing in any of our
timetables seemed to indicate it) and we had paid the normal
price for reservations. However, I remembered some fine print in one
of the Eurail brochures (or somewhere) about these trains and that an
extra supplement was payable. Sure enough, the conductor tried to make
us pay a supplement. Since we had refused the meal and hadn't taken
advantage of any extra services, we didn't feel very inclined to pay
so we pretended we didn't understand Italian and fortunately he spoke
only a few words of English. Eventually the conductor gave up and went
away.

Disclaimer: I'm not advocating that people should try to avoid paying
supplements. Normally we would have paid but we felt very ripped off
in those particular circumstances.
From: jonke@vim.brl.mil (Patrick J. Jonke )
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re:  Santorini, Greece.
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:05:04 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD.


I am considering a trip to Crete in the off season, which Fodor's '92
defines as late October - March. Does anyone know what the weather is
like on Crete during that period? Specifically, is the temperature
warm enough to sunbathe?
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From: mtvahb@rivm.nl (Aldrik Bakema)
Subject: Re: Help with hotels in Amsterdam
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:20:11 GMT

Subject: Re: Help with hotels in Amsterdam
Newsgroups: rec.trave
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Well, since you did not get many responses, here 's my advice.
Having lived for 17 years in Haarlem and 10 years in Amsterdam.
I would definitely choose Amsterdam if I were you: livelier,
more to see, more lodging available (depends of course very
much on when you want to visit), etc.
I 've never stayed in a hotel though, and can't recommend one.
There are numerous cheaper hotels though, and cosier ones than
the holiday inn (which isn't even in the town center!).
My advice is just take the train to the central station in Amsterdam
(leaves every 15 minutes or so from the airport), and go directly
to the tourist information opposite the central station.
They will be able to give you any info you want, and since I guess
you will be there off-season, you should not have much difficulty
finding a place in any price-category you want.
From the station you can take trams or taxis, whichever you prefer.
From the airport there is not much use in taking a taxi instead of
the train, because it will take you at least as long to get to the
central station by taxi. So unless you carry a lot of luggage ..
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Hope this helps, have fun!

Aldrik Bakema
mtvahb@rivm.nl

PS: I 've seen questions like this reappear now and then on the net.
Whenever I find the time I will inform a bit more about hotels and
prepare some more information for short-term visitors. What you could 
do in the meantime though, is hust write or call to 
Amsterdam tourist information and ask them these questions.
From: mccau002@acpub.duke.edu (Gary McCauley)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: archives??
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:29:20 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.



Does anyone know where archives of this group may be found?

Gary McCauley
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From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: Public transport in South-West Canada
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:32:01 GMT


There's a bus between Banff and Jasper.  The train runs through Jasper
about 3:00 in the afternoon and arrives in Vancouver about 8:30 a.m.  Call
VIA Rail.  But do check to see if there's a bus between Banff and Vancouver.
It might be a better deal, take less time, and operate during more daylight
hours to give you better "viewing" time.
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From: baer@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Eurail pass 
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:55:58 GMT

>>Some friends of mine are coming over to Europe for one month, They'll be 
>>visiting Germany, Belgium, Holland and England. What will the cost of a 
>>Eurail pass be? Is it the best alternative?
> 
> A Eurail pass may not be a worthwhile purchase.  It's not valid in
> England, and the Britrail pass is not worthwhile unless you ride in the
> train every day.  If you stay in London or another large city, you can
> make day trips to nearby places very cheaply using the one-day return
> tickets.  Long-distance coaches are also much cheaper than trains in
> England and also often travel more scenic routes.  Belgium and Holland can
> be covered with the much cheaper Benelux pass, which a travel agent can
> get for you outside of Benelux.  Germany also has its own railpass and
> cheap excursion tickets. 
>
Generally, I agree, though when it gets to a point where one is purchasing
more than 1 single country pass (e.g., Germany, then France), Eurail 
can end up being cheaper, depending on the configuration (individual 
country passes are sometimes available for 2nd class travel, though,
so as long as one doesn't insist on comparing apples with apples and 
just wants to compare "bottom line/cheapest way" costs, Eurail doesn't
look that good).  Another thing to consider, though, is that Eurail
offers a group pass (alas,available only as a 21 day pass) which is
considerably cheaper than the sum of the individual passes.  Normally,
a group = 3 or more people, but from the beginning of October (nice
time to travel in Europe) through to March a group can be defined as 2 or
more people. 
> Barbara Vaughan
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From: hoppersm@infonode.ingr.com (Marcia Hoppers)
Subject: Need recommendations: places to stay in Hana
Keywords: Hana Maui Hawaii
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:53:37 GMT

I would be interested in any recommendations of where to stay in Hana.
Comments from anyone who has stayed at the following will be appreciated:

Hotel Hana Maui
Heavenly Hana Inn
Hana Plantation Houses
Aloha Cottages
Hana Kai Maui Resort
Hana Bay Vacation Rentals
Hana Kai Holidays

Thanks,
Marcia

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From: tfalk@decoy.uucp (25442-falk)
Subject: Timeshare Condo's in Princeville Kauai
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:08:47 GMT

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this, but here goes.

If there are any owners at the Pahio at Ka Eo Kai resort in Princeville,
I think the resort survived reasonably well.  CNN happened to pan past
the resort last night, and it appears that all of the buildings
survived from what I could see.  Most of the units have damage to
the roofs and some windows.  It appears that unit 18 was the most
severely damaged, with the roof over the living room/dining room sheared
off.  It also looked like all the windows had blow out on this unit. 
It also appears that the phase III units survived in slightly
better shape than the phase II units. (They should, they're newer)
All in all, I was resonably impressed with the way they stood up.

They also happened to show Princeville Center, looking from the
foodland down past Chucks Steakhouse, and it also appears to be
in one piece for the most part.

Have not been able to notice anything for the Cliff's Club or the
Makai club, Paniolo or any other resort.  The Princeville Hotel had a
video from inside the main lobby looking out over Hanalei Bay during the
storm, and it looked like solid walls of water.

If anyone has any info on anything else in Princeville, or there are
other owners at Pahio, I would be greatly interested in any info you
have.  Thanks.

Ted Falk
From: brucer@gold.gvg.tek.com (Bruce Rayner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: European car rentals
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:55:41 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA



We flew United to Brussels a few weeks ago.  They booked a car through
Eurodollar for us - 14 days for $180!  About half what Dollar quoted me.
That was min econo. We upgraded to a VW Polo for total of $210.

BR
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Bed & breakfast inn in chicago ?? Location ??
From: tan_k@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 10 Sep 1992 02:41:58 GMT
Reply-To: tan_k@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Am trying to locate a cheap bed & breakfast inn in chicago. Have
one called 'Ascot House" on 1100S Michigan Ave with what seems 
to be an outdated phone no and fax. Can somebody help with the latestmnu
no ? Or any suggestiions of a reasonable place around US$40 per night
near the conrad hilton on 720 S Michigan Ave. As this is  my first time 
in chicago would appreciate suggestions ? Love to meet any locals as 
well. Thanks in advance.
From: simon@cs.city.ac.uk (Simon Brock-Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: London Zoo
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:56:01 GMT
Organization: City University, London

In article <1992Aug31.141843.1505@Princeton.EDU> q0239@whereis.Princeton.EDU
(Peter A. Olenick) writes:
>We will be taking our first visit to London in September.   One of the
>places we were looking forward to visiting was the London Zoo.  I hear
>the zoo is about to close.  Can some one confirm this.

The latest plan is that the zoo will close down for good on 30 September.
Most of the animals will be redistributed around other zoos, etc., and the
rest will be destroyed.

The organization that runs the zoo has officially given up trying to raise
money to save it, but there are all sorts of rumours that it may be taken
over and converted into more of a theme park, with the antiquated
facilities for large numbers of animals being replaced by modern
suroundings for just a few species.

Whatever happens, it looks like this is the last month you'll be able to
see London Zoo in its present form.

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From: elias@corton.inria.fr (Banska Bystrica)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: From San Francisco to Santa Cruz
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:38:02 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Rocquencourt, France.

Hi !
I would like to travel from SF to Santa Cruz without a car. I s it
possible ?  What about all Bay area - is it necessary to have a car ?
Thanks,

Lubos Elias

elias@corton.inria.fr
From: becky@ms-1.gvl.unisys.com (Becky Hollis)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air,dfw.forsale,tx.wanted,pa.wanted,phl.wanted,misc.wanted
Subject: WANTED...TICKET FROM PHILLY/WASH DC TO DFW/OKLA CITY
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:07:49 GMT
Reply-To: becky@ms-1.gvl.unisys.com (Becky Hollis)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Paramax, the part of Unisys that makes money

Want one-way airline ticket from the Philadelphia or surrounding area (ie D.C.,
Baltimore, Newark) to Dallas/Ft. Worth or surrounding area (ie Okla City,
Austin, maybe Houston) for female.  Schedule is pretty flexible but would
prefer open end return/or return date in the next two weeks.

Please e-mail
Thanks
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From: ken@unixg.ubc.ca (Kenneth White)
Subject: Re: Travel to New Zealand
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:01:52 GMT

Don't miss Queenstown, it is the best spot in NZ
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jg@cl.cam.ac.uk (Jim Grundy)
Subject: Re: Cambridge
Reply-To: jg@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: Cambridge Hardware Verification Group
Distribution: rec.travel
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:42:09 GMT


|> I am told that the Knights Templars based their round chapel
|> design on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, which they appropriated
|> for a church on entering the city in 1099.

The round church has a round bit and a square bit.
The square bit is older than the round bit, and is the oldest thing
standing in Cambridge.  I think it is before 1100.

|> There is a very interesting Greene King in Cambridge.
Greene King is the name of a local brewer, not a pub.
All the pubs controlled by that brewer say `Greene King' and maybe somewhere
else in small writing do they say the name of the pub.
It appears to be a common story amoung my friends here that when they just
arrived in Cambridge they arrange to meet their friends at the
Greene King - this really neat pub they found.   They never meet up because
half of the pubs are called the Greene King.

Jim

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From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:05:29 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

>Well, I must admit, it *is* hard getting used to European service.  This is
>not a cut of Europe, it is just true.  American service is superior and
>I, and probably many americans, have a hard time getting used to be ignored
>by waiters, and recieving bad information because someone is 5 minutes
>away from their dejeuner and can't be bothered to find out the information 
>you need.


As for restaurant service, I wouldn't say American is better, just different.
At least in Germany and Austria, the custom is for the waiter to leave you
alone until you summon him. It took me awhile to get used to this -- you
have to make a point of noticing what your waiter looks like, and it's
up to you to let them know when you want your check: "Zahlen, bitte".  It's
really kind of nice when you get used to it, because you never get the
feeling they're trying to rush you out of the place.

One thing that makes it difficult to get used to these cultural differences
is that very few guidebooks seem to cover them.  There's loads of info
on where to spend your money but none on how to blend in culturally.  
Misunderstandings result.

And the Net doesn't help much either, because you're asking for major flames
if you try to educate people on what cultural/environmental surprises to
expect -- you're labelled as a racist or a chauvinist just for bringing
it up.
From: keri@apple.com (Keri Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Cuernavaca language schools
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:11:04 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

Hello,

Has anyone attended a Spanish language school in Cuernavaca?  I have
information from Experiencia Educativa Bilingue, Cuauhnahuac, Fenix
Language Institute, The Center for Bilingual Multicultural Studies, and
IDEAL (Instituto de Estudios de America Latina). I'd appreciate first-hand
information if you've attended one of these schools or any other Spanish
language school in Cuernavaca. Specifically, would you recommend the school
you attended?

Please respond using e-mail and I'll post a summary of responses to the
net. Thanks for your help. -- Keri

keri@apple.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: Seeking great ideas for Christmas
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:15:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.111427.1@us.oracle.com>, pleroy@us.oracle.com writes:
> In article <6102@pdxgate.UUCP>, h2co@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Candace
O'Connor) writes:
> > Hello.  I am getting into the habit of not spending Christmas at home;
> > for the past few years my husband and I have gone various places for a
> > few days to a week for the holiday, and enjoyed ourselves much more
> > than we do spending Christmas at home.  Now I'm thinking of where to
> > go this year, and I'll bet some of you have some really great ideas,
> > so I am soliciting.
> > 

  I've spent several Christmas weeks in Yosemite.  It's
  absolutely beautiful.  I've stayed in the Wawona Hotel and
  rented a cabin at Yosemite West.  It's probably too late in
  the year to get decent accommodations in the park.

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From: tmalaher@ajfcal.uucp (Tom Malaher)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Taking a PC to Japan
Summary: Would 100V, 50 or 60 Hz be OK with a PC power supply
Keywords: japan voltage frequency power supply
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:59:09 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Crafield Digital

A friend of mine is going to Japan to work for a year or so, and wants 
to take his PC with him.  According to the reference books he has, Japan
uses 100V (not 117) and 50 Hz in Tokyo and "the eastern parts", and 60Hz
in Nagoya, Kyoto, and Osaka (the west?).  The plugs are identical to
north-american ones (two flat prongs).

The question is, will the Power supply be OK with this?  Does it depend
on number of add-in cards, type of power supply, etc?

Also, any suggestions on safely shipping a PC and monitor to Japan would
be appreciated.

Please reply via e-mail (as I'm sure not many people care about the
answers.) to:
tom.malaher@nt.com  or  tmalaher@ajfcal.cuc.ab.ca

Tom
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From: barrett@terminus.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
Subject: Cross country trip
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:37:44 GMT

My wife and I want to celebrate the end of my grad student
career next spring (April or May) by going on a nice
3-4 week trip.  We'd like to see the NW part of the country
(Grand Tetons, Vancouver, and Seattle are definitely on the
list) so our first thought was to fly out and open jaw it
with Amtrak to connect the trip.  However, after a week in
AZ with a convertible, we think we'd like to drive out in
a rented convertible from Atlanta and round-trip it down
to Utah and maybe Colorado (is it too cold in early May?).

What I'm looking for is suggestions on places we shouldn't 
miss in this tour of the West.

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From: kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kinch Malapitan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Greece slides wanted
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:06:03 GMT
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.

Greek Festivals sell slides - check your local area...


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From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Mexico
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:10:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <BuDI3q.JBK@news.orst.edu> parkerg@osshe.edu (Greg Parker) writes:
>Has anyone been to the Mexican silver-making town of Taxco (sp?)
>My wife saw an article about it and wants to go during 
>our trip to Xtapa.  (leaving in two weeks)

I've been to several of the old provincial capitals in the area of
Mexico City and liked all of them.  Unfortunately, I haven't yet been
to Taxco, but hear it is very nice from all I know who have been.

>Also, still looking for information about Mexico
>City.  We will be spending 2 1/2 days there in
>the Zona Rosa.  Anything not to miss?

(1) The Ballet Folclorico.
(2) The Anthropology Museum.
(3) Teotihuacan.
(4) Cafe Tacuba on Street of same name near the central plaza.
(5) Plaza Garibaldi on any evening, preferably Saturday.  It is the
center for the play for pay Mariachi bands.  You can either be a
voyeur or hire some yourself.

SJM
From: fletcher@remus.rutgers.edu (Sean A Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Moving to California
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:56:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


A friend and I are faced with the problem of moving from New Brunswick
New Jersey to Los Angeles, California.  While we are entertaining
several options, we have heard a lot about people willing to let other
people drive their vehicles cross country while they take a faster
means of transit.

What we thought was that if anyone reading this message knew anyone in
a position to require a driver to move a vehicle from the east coast
to the west coast, on or about September 18th, we would appreciate
being considered for this task.  My e-mail addresses are as follows:
	
	fletcher@remus.rutgers.edu
	fletcher@zodiac.rutgers.edu
	fletcher@gandalf.rutgers.edu

Thanks.
Sean
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