From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: WHERE DO THE "Palestinians" COME FROM?
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:30:09 GMT
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan

In article <11JAN199323063440@uhdvx3.> Alexandre Khalil a.k.a. [AK] writes:
In article <4632@bimacs.BITNET>, Gideon Ehrlich a.k.a [GE] 
In article <244@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP> Tsiel Ohayon a.k.a [TO] writes:
[TO]Israeli Arabs do not serve in the Army, unless they make a formal
[TO] request.
  [GE]Tsiel is right. Arabs do have the privilage to serve in the Israeli
  [GE]army , as well as in the Israeli police , Israeli education system and
  [GE]Israeli health system according to their free will only.
[TO]Druzes and Bedouins do on the other hand.
[TO]  Druzes are not Arabs! They are a sect of their own.
  [GE] Right!

[AK] From the Oxford English Dictionary, concise edition, 1982, reprinted 1985:
[AK] Druse: Member of a political and religious sect of Muslim origin living 
[AK] near and around Mt. Lebanon.

[AK] Sect: [..] Religious denomination. Followers of a particular philosopher or
[AK] philosophy or school of thought in politics etc..

[AK] Arab: (one) of the Semitic people originally inhabiting Saudi Arabia and 
[AK] neighbouring countries, now the Middle East generally.
[AK] It seems that Arabs are not *a sect*, as they are not defined -at least 
[AK] by the OED- as a religious, philosophic or political group.
[AK] Just my two cents worth

Also:
From: RHOMSIE@auvm.american.edu (Rita Homsieh)
[RITA] Regarding your claim that Druz are not Arab.  That is very very wrong, 
[RITA] that another thing the "western" way of colonizing control the 
[RITA] colonized people, by dividing them.  Please next time have a better
[RITA] argument!


Thanks Alex for taking the time and looking this up.
I personally hope that this will clear the minds of Jim Eggert and Rita
Homsieh who persisted in saying that Druzes were Arabs. It is not because
that they are living in the M.E. and they are not Jews that they forcibly
have to be Arabs!

I'm sorry Rita if I do not understand anything after your first sentence
claiming that I'm wrong about Druzes. So I cannot answer this at this point.
Please English next time argument have better maybe thing possible!!

[RITA] Moreover, my dear cousin, I would like to ask you: how can I be 
[RITA] antisemtic if I was semi myself, because as we all know Arabs and Jews 
[RITA] are from the same descent.  They even look alike.

Apparently you have not read the thread concerning the word antisemite.
The word is only used to depict hatred against Jews, not Arabs. 

[RITA] So dear, I wonder who should read better history books.
I'm not your Habibi babe :-).

[RITA] Yes I believe your Holocaust story, even though the Jews were not 6 
[RITA] millions in Germany, but this is not the point.

Then I cannot call you a non-believer :-). Seriously, the Holocaust was not
a story but a tragedy which happened 50 years ago. True there were not 6
millions in Germany but there were at least that many in Europe. Remember,
Germany was all over Europe at that time. So I still think you should read
some history books.

[RITA] I am majoring in International Relations and Jewish Studies at the
[RITA] American University in Washington DC.

I guess you still have a lot to learn at your University. Come back when you
will have majored, maybe we will be able to discuss seriously.

Tsiel
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