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From: saleham@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Subject: Re: A WORD OF CAUTION (THANKS)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:20:24 GMT

kambizm@fidibus.uio.no writes:
> 
> 
>>>If someone expresses a question such:
>>>     Why some Persians hate Arabs?
>>>     ;Why Arabs hate Iranians?
>>      
>>      Watch your mouth. You say *some Persians* hate Arabs, 
>>      then *Arabs* hate Iranians. It is the difference between
>>      some and all.
>> Anwar      
> 
> I think Anwar missed the point, pointed out by the first writer.
> The first writer meant that one should suspect the one who
> makes these kind of questions. That such a questioner is maybe
> there to create discord. He did not mean that anybody hates 
> anybody but it was the sincerity and the purpose of the hypothetical
> questioner which is under question.
> 
> 
>                                   Kambiz

  Thanks Kambiz. Your nice response had effect. It seems that
  I was in a rush and did not read the original article carefully.
  In fact his(Mr. Darvish) article was a warning of such 
  misunderstanding (something I did already). 

  So I apologize for the misunderstanding, especialy to Mr. Darvish.
  I also would like others (and me) to follow Kambiz in being cool.

  Also, it is better to talk and do mistakes (misunderstanding) than
  not talk at all. 

  Anwar Saleh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sxs75@po.CWRU.Edu (Soheil Sayeh)
Subject: Information Request
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:12:31 GMT



I appreciate if someone can give me a clue about sources of
information in following areas about Iran:

   1. Iran's Health Policy
   2. Social Welfare Policy including Pension programs
      Health Insurance programs, Older Adult and Health Care
      Services.

Thanx

Please send the information to sxs75@po.cwru.edu


-Soheil-
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Bosnia-Hercegovina
Summary: Where is the leader of freed World? ===> G. Bush
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:04:12 GMT


 BOSNIA-HERCEGOVINA

 The Serbs have added another gory twist to their barbaric practices.
 Serbian soldiers and irregulars now place bets on pregnant Muslim women
 to see what the gender of the fetus is.
 The Serbs slit open the women's stomach, pull the fetus out to check its
 gender and let the poor women bleed to death, reports Irfan Mirza, a Muslim
 journalist currently in Bosnia-Hercegovina with a group of mujahideen
 from Afghanistan, Lebanon and Syria.
 Irfan Mirza's firsthand account was faxed to the offices of CRESCENT
 INTERNATIONAL, together with another appeal from Zagreb, Croatia, signed
 by several University professors and journalists appealing for help for the
 Muslims interned in concentration camps run by the Serbs.
 In the letter, professor Mubera Maslic narrated the plight of the 12,000
 residents of Janja, a small town on the river Drina. The residents were
 cut off from the outside world but because they were witnesses to the
 massacres that the Serbs have perpetrated in various parts of Bosnia,
 they are being punished with executions.
 The residents of Janja had the horrible task of pulling out the bloated
 bodies of Muslims as they floated down the Drina river.
 They were, however, forbidden to bury them in the local cemetery. The Serbs
 insisted that the bodies be buried in the field in an attempt to hide
 the evidence of their crimes.
 On August 21, all the men were herded into the local stadium and that
 night the Serbs started killing them one by one.
 The letter also signed by Professor Neda Lusic, Professor Dr Muhamed
 Zdralovic, Journalist Hasan Ibrahimovic, Asmir Mujagic and Malarem Causevic,
 makes an urgent appeal to the world for help.

 Is anyone listening, though?



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From: nasser@nasser.net.com (Nasser Modiri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: NOOR: Call For Papers
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:53:34 GMT
Organization: NET, Redwood City


To:     SCI
From:   Nasser Modiri
Date:   September 1, 1992
Ref:    (1) Sending the NOOR volume set to Iran
        (2) Call for technical/scientific articles/papers

Dear All,
        As you may have read some of my earlier postings you would
know that I was able to collect $460 for the preparation of the NOOR
volume set.  11 copies of the volume set were made, and now I have
posted them to 11 Iranian universities.

I thank all the people who have contributed. On the second page of
every volume the enclosed Acknowledgement and the list of Contributers
were specified.

I would also like to encourage all of you to submit furhter technical/scientific
articles/papers for inclusion in the NOOR monthly letter for 1993.


With much thanks
Nasser

                Dr. Nasser Modiri
                1107 Second Ave.
                Ste. 704
                Redwood City, CA 94063
                (415)369-8967
        email:  nasser@unet.net.com

^L
---------
Acknowledgement

Through the generous contribution of Mr/Ms xxxx xxx I have been able to prepare
and dedicate the NOOR Volume I and Volume II technical letter to your university.

We hope you'll be able to add the NOOR volume set to you library to benefit the
students of your university.

I extend my grateful thanks to Mr/Ms xxxx xxx for his/her support and to all the
other people who have and are making it possible for us to continue with furthering
the development of NOOR and its related activites.

--------------
Contributors:

Arman, Farshid
Asadian, Saed
Ayvaz, Athur*
Bavandpouri, Farid*
Behtash, Saman, Ph. D.
Gharbani, Mahboob
Hashemi, Siamak
Hosseini, Anoosh
Hushemi, Shahryar
Izadi, Babak, Ph. D.
Kalakota, Ravi
Maghsoodnia, Mehdi
Massoumi, Mehran*
Mavaddat, Farhad
Meybodi, Merhdad, Ph. D.
Modiri, Ali*
Modiri, Ramin
Naraghi, Hooseyar*
Ossia, Kamran*, Ph. D.
Park, Anna*
Ravani, Bhram*
Razavi, Omid, Ph. D.
Razavi, Navid
Rouhizadeh, Ahmad
Rouhizadeh, Davood
Rouhizadeh, Fariba*
Sadeghi-A, Ardalan*
Saghari, Bahram
Saffari, Ensieh
Shakeri, Farhad**
Sheikhai, Zohreh
Sheikhai,  Reza
Tabesh,  Haleh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: kamrani@ifi.uio.no (Kamran)
Subject: Re: a DDA Night with Mehdi Akhavan SalesDDDaCCDDless
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:37:21 GMT
Originator: kamrani@svartor.ifi.uio.no


Wel, somebody had asked about Akhavan Sales. I remember some lines
of his very famous poem which may vvery much describe some AHALIS of
sci. But first a warning: FOHSH RA ANDAKHTAM ZAMIN, SAHEBASH BARDASHT.
So please don't get offended.


EY DERAKHTAN AGHIM, RISHETAN DAR KHAKHAYE HARZEGY MASTOR
YEK JAVANE-YE ARJMAND AZ HICH JATAN ROSHD NATVANAD

EY GOROHY BARG CHERKIN TAR , CHERKIN PUD
YADGAR KHOSHKSALIHAYEH GARD ALOOD
HICH BARANI SHOMA RA SHOST NATVANAD
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Subject: More Name Origins: Azerbaijan
Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:12:58 GMT


A few days ago someone posted something about the origin of Azerbaijan's
name and suggested it was related to "Azar" etc.. My history books say
that Azerbaijan got its name from the Persian satrap named AtropAt who
was in charge of MAd during the time of Eskandar. 

Brad
From: jamshid@socrates.ucsf.edu (J. Naghizadeh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Stop the...
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:59:46 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

psc@sei.cmu.edu (Peter Capell) writes:

>J. Naghizadeh writes:

>>In the New World Order the former colonialists are exploiting the ethnic and
>>religious tensions to impose their political will. This is specially true in
>>the middle east.  Arabs are not our enemy today, they are suffering the newly
>>emerging colonialism just like we Iranians are.It is just these ill feelings
>>which are exploited by the outside powers to create wars such as the eight
>>year Iran-Iraq war with immense cost and suffering to both Iranian and Iraqi
>>people.

>This is undoubtedly true and at the same time simplistic.  I agree with the
>statement in principle, but in fact it has a decidedly Marxist ring to it.
>And although I think Marx had a lot on the ball, he specifically identified
>advanced capitalist societies as appropriate candidates for "advancement"
>to a communist state.  Based on the totally abysmal performance of the
>socalled Marxists worldwide (where each and every implementation has come
>about in agrarian societies), I think spouting rhetoric of this kind is
>valueless.  As much as George Bush and his colleagues desperately want their
>manipulations to function in a linear fashion, country's like Iran are
>unmanipulatable in large part, and are tantamount to holding a tiger by the 
>tail.


Sir:

Since Marx is a dirty word, and my knowledge of it is quite meager,
I would like to ask you to explain how you associated the above paragraph
with Marxism. The reference to "former colonialists" means England and
France who are conspiring to return to the Persian Gulf region and
recapture their old colonial interests there. George Bush is going
along with this mainly for reasons of impending elections.

--jamshid
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: International Copyright Laws
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:14:02 GMT

payman@hardy.u.washington.edu (Payman Arabshahi) writes:

>In article <1992Aug31.152350.20633@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> 
>paran_p@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Pirouz Parang) writes:

>>I have heard that Iran has not signed International 
>>copyright agreements and thus, Iranian publishers are 
>>not protected or restricted by them.
>>Does anyone know more about this?

>This is my understanding of the situation:

>Iran is not a signatory to International copyright agreements.
>Thus any book published anywhere in the world can be legally
>copied and distributed in Iran.  This is presently happening
>with many books, especially technical ones, published for 
>instance by Iran University Press (markaz-e nashr-e dAneshgAhi).

>At the same time, because Euoropean countries and other states
>such as Canada and the U.S. *are* signatories to International
>copyright agreements, they can *not* copy and distribute books
>published in Iran without prior permission from the author or
>publisher. 

>So Iranian publishers are protected from copying by outsiders,
>without being in any way restricted in doing the same to other
>publishers abroad.

The same thing with the copyright to softwares.  I've heard
that there is a government office that is responsible for free
distribution of software and these are copyrighted software.
Since Iran has no relation with the U.S. she is not subject to
U.S. pressures however companies that deal with Iran can individually
put pressure on Iran for honoring their copyright.  For example when
one university in Iran recently purchased some IBM computers IBM
put a condition that all of its illegaly copied software should
be removed from the computers or a certain publisher can stop
selling books to Iran or taking part in book exhibitions.  So far
it has not been to the interest of Iran to obey the copyright law
but if Iran wants to make more contact with the west theunder increasinghe
pressures Iran may have to honor the coyright law.


>-Payman
From: B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: ISLAMIC BROTERHOOD - BOSNIA V/S SOMALIA
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:20:57 GMT


On all culture news groups flag bearer of islam have posted
messages after messages deploring sitaution in Bosnia.  Who 
is  helping   in    Bosnia?   Muslims states - NO.   Muslim 
Fundamentalists all around the world are getting hoarse crying 
for Bosnia and Islam. Islam is in DANGER once more (it was 
in Gulf war before) for these fundamentlists. Who are they 
cursing for not helping - WEST? Why the hell should WEST help 
these fundamentlists who will go tomorrow planting bombs in 
western planes and threatening Salman Rushdie and likes
with death threats at flimsiest grounds? West is under
no obligation to help. It SHOULD NOT get involved. But
west is still helping out of goodwill.

But what is happening to Somalia which has 99 percent
(compared just 30 percent population in Bosnia) *BLACK* 
MUSLIMS who are dying by THOUSANDS every day (compared
to less than few hundred in a war for which Bosnian themselves
are equally responsible) with most cruel death caused by 
starvation and hunger.  Who is helping them? Muslim States - NO.
It is the west that is helping in Somalia once again
even though they are under no obligation to do.
What happended to Islamic "Red Crescent"? Or Black
muslims are disposable commodity? Why don't these islamic 
fundamentlists collect money for Somalia which is more in 
despearte need than any one else on this earth?. Why are
the islamic governments of IRAN ,Pakistan, Bangladesh who
are all very vocal on Bosnia supply food and medicine
to Somalia or Islamic Brotherhood just stops at the gate
of Africa.

That only tells about total HYPOCRACY Of ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD
and ISLAMIC Equality.

Regards,

bkumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bai@parts.eng.ohio-state.edu (Baback A. Izadi)
Subject: Information on Seattle Washington
Organization: The Ohio State University 
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:54:37 GMT

A friend of mine is moving from San Diego to Seattle
(Washington) in two weeks. He has some basic questions i.e.
where to look for an apartment. Any infromation would be
appreciated. I can either pass you phone number to him or
have him call you.

Thanks,

Baback
From: anoosh@mips.com (Anoosh Hosseini)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Computer News from Iran.
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:53:44 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: wildcat.mips.com
Originator: anoosh@wildcat.mips.com


Nagareh is selling Suns to 20 Universities in Iran. Company
claims to have resolved Export license.

Four of the largest computer companies in Iran along with
Islamic Azad University are creating a new company 
"Informatic Industry Research Co" to perform research for
ministry of Industry.  They will work along with the
Supreme Counsil of Informatic to set computer standards.

(humor note: we better trade mark the name "SCI" before
the Supreme Counsil of Informatic does).

The Telephone company has legalized data transmission 
over telephone lines, and offers "data quality" lines
to the public. Prior to this, it was illegal for people
to send data  phone lines. (Jail term has now passed over
my head.) 

Five of the biggest computer companies in Iran will
represent IBM. Products include the PC line
and AS/400 mini-computers.

There is now an Iranian branch of the IEEE.

Major contracts are to be awarded in the telephone systems
area. Projects include 6 million "digital" telephone lines,
mobile cellular phones, and packet switching.

A new quarterly is to published: "Farsi Computing Review"
(in English) out of Tehran . It is supposed to be a journal 
of technical papers regarding computer Persianization issues.



-anoosh


Source: Brain Newsletter.


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are any questions or issues regarding ISI by existing members, 
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From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: BBC Unveils CIA Monetory Support for Iranian Opposition
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:43:33 GMT
	<5pj.dm4pr@lab.ntt.jp> <BtCr98.38n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<nur.dphea@lab.ntt.jp> <BtDytv.MwM@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<scs.drmcv@lab.ntt.jp> <BtFqGB.MCn@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: none

In article <BtFqGB.MCn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

 &>So a reduction in the price of oil would reduce US income! That
 &>is why Saudi Arabia recently supported a cutback in production
 &>to support prices. It could not have been without a nod from the
 &>Big Brother. Therefore I wouldn't worry about the US trying to
 &>pull prices down.
 &
 &I was comparing the price of oil in 1978 to the current value of oil
 &and how IRI helped in the destruction of OPEC unity which was the major
 &factor in higher oil prices. The current oil prices are less than half
 &of what it used to be.  

But a great deal of Iran's income was going back to the US in ways that
did not benefit Iran. What was the "actual" price once you factor out
the wasted income? 

 &Of course I do not expect you to show any interest in this issue as your 
 &interest is ONLY in responding to the issues that can help you look a winner!

Well, I just did! 
              
 &ONCE AGAIN FARZIN YOU ARE A WINNER!
 &A BIG HURRAH FOR FARZIN THE WINNER!

Calm down, Ala.
       
 - Farzin
             
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mxahmad@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (Mehdi Ahmadi)
Subject: Persian Center Picnic in Los Gatos California
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:01:23 GMT



	Hello'

	On Sunday August 30th, the committee for building the Persian 
	Center in northern california, has organized a picnic. It starts
	AT 11:30 AM till 5:30 pm. The place is Vasona Park in Los Gatos
	California. 

	Their addrress on the flyer is:

	Persian Center 
	PO box 4886
	Walnut Creek, Ca 94596


	Have Fun.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no 
Subject: Re: Sassanids
Reply-To: kambizm@fidibus.uio.no 
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:45:01 GMT


The clothing was not meant for slave women, dancers and layman.
It was the wives of the  aristocrates who are going to bear the
legitimate child and the heir who were supposed to do that. The 
tradition among  nuns in the Catholic or Ortodox countries where
I guess they cover their hair and other parts of their body can 
show that this tradition may have originally  (as I said before
Greek) be originated there. 
                                            Kambiz

                                               
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saleham@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Anwar M. Saleh)
Subject: Re: A WORD OF CAUTION
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:38:19 GMT

darvish@khAneghAh.alishAh (darvish-ali) writes:
> ......
>If someone expresses a question such:
>     Why some Persians hate Arabs?
>     ;Why Arabs hate Iranians?
      
      Watch your mouth. You say *some Persians* hate Arabs, 
      then *Arabs* hate Iranians. It is the difference between
      some and all.
      
      I am very sure that you didn't mean it, but word are
      like Bullets and sometimes are like *mouth* grenades. 
  
>     ;Were not you better of during time of Shah?
>     ;If French go back to monarchy system, shouldn't we do the   
>      same?
>     ;Do all muslim hate Bahaie?

       Again, watchout. This question if not coupled with the 
       the question "Do all Bahaie hate Muslims?", then it serves
       as a hidden message.
>     ;
>and so on, which I can not come up with, please don't let your
>blood boil, just be passive. These FAQs are discussed before us and
      OK. 
>will be done after us, the reality of it sits somewhere else!

>_WE_ should not allow others to split us apart, and we can not
>afford to lose our bonds and unity for the sake of the future.
   
      So, watch out when you tuch such subjects.

>And as we know, the proven fact which is possible that one of us,
>including me, be on the payroll of the agency. Let's judge any
>incoming questions and evaluate its pros and cons before making a
>decision of response and its benefits. If we are careful enough,
             
   That is right.

>then, with a calm soul, confident heart, happy spirit, and wise and
>hopeful conscience, we all can contribute to solving our problems!

>Sincerely Yours.

  La Ilaha Illa Allah.

  Anwar Saleh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: How could we help the victims of Andrew.
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 17:40:24 GMT




sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>I heard the news that there was natural disaster in Florida,...

bAbA dast-khosh, toe keh dast e "Bush" ro az posht basti!

    --mack

--
When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: CT.MMJ@forsythe.stanford.edu (Michelle Jahanpour)
Subject: Update-Divorce Persian Style
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:46:37 GMT

Thank you to all who responded to my question about "Divorce Persian
Style."  I received many insightful and caring responses.  I guess
this is why I've always been so enamored with your culture.  I
really believe that Persians care about others -- no matter what the
nationality. I was particularly glad to have so many sincere
responses.  I plan to write a response to each of you, but please
allow me some time to digest what you've said. Thanks again for your
time and insight.  All the best, Michelle Jahanpour
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Shirazi
Subject: Test
Followup-To: ****
Summary: This is a test
Keywords: Test
Organization: None
Distribution: Alberta
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:24:59 GMT

This is a test only!
Shirazi
From: akumar@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: SpicMacay:L. Subramaniam(violin):LEC-DEM:Sep23:FREE
Date: 2 Sep 1992 09:25:57 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


  Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music And Culture Amongst Youth
                                (SPIC-MACAY)

                                 presents

                   An evening (Lecture-Demonstration) with

			      Violin Virtuoso


                             Dr. L. SUBRAMANIAM


				accompanied
			    on the MRIDANGAM by
				  GANESH

                        Wednesday Sept. 23, 1992, 7:30 pm.
			
   		     Crystal Cove Auditorium, Student Center
			   University of California
				   Irvine


		**ALSO AT:
		 US International Univ., SAN DIEGO. Sept. 24th, 7:30 pm.
			  Call (619) 291 9377 for more Info.
		**

                        ADMISSION FREE AND OPEN TO ALL.
	     (First Come First Served, limited by hall capacity)

		For CARPOOL and other info, contact:

                           UC, Irvine       (714) 856-3589 (Sanjiv)
                           USC, Los Angeles (213) 745-2917 (Kartik)
                           UC, Los Angeles  (310) 312-1644 (Munira)
			   CSU, Fullerton   (714) 992-5875 (Subha)

                or e-mail: narayan@ics.uci.edu (sanjiv)
			   anantk@usc.edu (anant)

Lecture-Demonstration: 
---------------------
The artist explains the art form and its intricacies. 
Dr. Subramaniam will present the Violin as a Carnatic music instrument
and explain the subtleties of Indian music.

Directions and Parking:
----------------------

 405 south or 5 South
 exit Jamboree go right
 left at campus
 right at bridge (2nd light)
 left at Pereira (1st light) 
 enter parking garage on the left.
 Crystal Cove is in the Student Center opp from the garage,

 PARKING: $ 2 per car.