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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: TP again...                             
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:59:00 +0000

I've just noticed all the weird spellings in my posting yesterday (when I was
just back from Sweden).  Sorry, folks...to paraphrase the old drink/drive
warning: don't ask a man to stay up late, fly, drive, read a stack of mail
AND be 100% coherent afterwards.

And also a glitch in the OLR program here means that a few messages and maybe
one or two mail messages have gone into a black hole.  If anyone reading this
sent me sane(ish) mail in the last few days and doesn't get a reply, this is
why...

Since I'm on...there's no joke in Twoflower.  I just wanted a coherent way of
making up 'foreign' names and I think I pinched the Mayan construction (Nine
Turning Mirrors, Three Rabbits, etc).

Terry
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles)
Subject: Re: I'll be Back...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:51:50 GMT

garton@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Simon Garton) writes:

>In article <3821@keele.keele.ac.uk> csa18@seq1.keele.ac.uk (R.J. Husmo) writes:
>>Hence the old joke: 'How to sink a Swedish ship?' 'Launch it.'
>>(I've been told that the same story applies to the Mary Celeste. Anyone
>>care to comment?)

>How do you sinke a Norwegian ship ? ask the swedes to build it

>How do you sink a Swedish submarine ? swim down and knock on the
>door ...

>and so on ad infinitum

>Simon (lots of Swedish and Norwegian friends at high school who
>kept teaching me these jokes, but curiously enough, the Swedes
>insisted the Norwegians were the lousy ship builders ....)

Well, while we're into Nationalist jokes, I've noticed there 
seems to be an awfully large number of New Zealanders posting
here, so..... baaa.

Eccles aka Grin
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams)
Subject: Re: Cohen the Barbarian
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University Observatory
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:19:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.215112.12488@dircon.co.uk> tdc1004@dircon.co.uk (Barry Freeman) writes:
>
>I always used to refer to him as 'Conan the Barbiturate' cos 
>he always put me tov sleep... <grin>

What about the obvious "Gonad the Barbarian?"
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: porcupine =?= hedgehog
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:17:21 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Peter da Silva (peter@taronga.com) wrote:
: 
: About the size of croquet balls.

An awful occupational illness caused by being hit in the gonads by a
long-handled wooden mallet?

pete
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From: sander@cwi.nl (Sander Plomp)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v1.4
Date: 13 Aug 92 07:41:25 GMT


 ----- MOVING PICUTERES -----

I should really mail this to Leo, but I need some final details so I
will post it here anyway.

(OK, I am so proud I found it that I need to show off here.)

In Moving Pictures, Roc edition, with "Terry Pratchet" on top of
the page, page 50, in italics:

   No-one would have believed, in the final years of the Century
   of the Fruitbat, that Discword affairs were being watched
   keenly and impatiently by intelligences greater than Man's, or
   at least much nastier; that their affairs were being
   scrutinised and studied as a man with a three-day appetite
   might study the All-You-Can-Gobble-For-A-Dollar menu outside
   Harga's House of Ribs ...

I missed this one, until I was rereading moving pictures shortly after
listening to Jef Wayne's musical version of the War of the Worlds. That
starts with:

   JOURNALIST: No one would have believed, in the last years of
   the nineteenth century, that human affairs were being
   watched from the timeless worlds of space. No one could have
   dreamed we were being scrutinized, as someone with a
   microscope studies creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop
   of water. Few men even considered the possibility of life on
   other planets and yet, across the gulf of space, minds
   immeasurably superior to ours regarded this Earth with envious
   eyes and slowly and surely, they drew their plans against us.

The forms of these two fragments are not identical, but too similar to
be a coincidence. I haven't got the original H. G. Wells novel, but
I suspect it starts in much the same way. Can anyone look this up for me?
-- 
Sander Plomp                                        Internet: sander@cwi.nl
Organization: Center for Machine Translation, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:16:42 -0400 
From: John Robert Leavitt <jl3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: explaining things

h0sagg@gdt.bath.ac.uk (Simon Granville) says:
 > JApanese names are always portrayed in some form of monosyllablic
 > version (unlike Si-mon, things like Cho, Hsu, Lao etc)

BUZZ.  Sorry next contestant.

Chinese names may tend to be
monsyllabic (eg. Mao Tse Tung and Lao Tse), but Japanese names lean in
the other direction.  For example, some of my Japanese co-workers have
the following names:

        Teruko Mitamura
        Hideto Tomabechi
        Hiroaki Kitano
        Tsuyoshi Kitani
        Yukiko Liehara
        Masaru Tomita

A bit polysyllabic, if you ask me.

Just my $0.02.

-John (who just had a friend pick up Eric and Witches Abroad while
       that friend was in Britain and is now going insane waiting for the
       friend to get on with it and mail to me!) Leavitt.


-John R. R. Leavitt-----------------------------------------------------------
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From: berry@athos.pei.com (Berry Kercheval)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: porcupine =?= hedgehog
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:44:50 GMT
Reply-To: berry@pei.com
Organization: Protocol Engines, Inc., Mt. View, California

>>>>> On 17 Aug 92 12:17:21 GMT, pete@minster.york.ac.uk said:
pete> X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

pete> Peter da Silva (peter@taronga.com) wrote:
pete> : 
pete> : About the size of croquet balls.

pete> An awful occupational illness caused by being hit in the gonads by a
pete> long-handled wooden mallet?


No, it comes from being kicked there by a flamingo.

  --berry
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"And there's more where that came from!"
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From: mxr@neptune.dsc.com (Max "Postdoctoral Perspiration" Rible)
Subject: Re: Culcha? Moi?
Organization: Digital Sound Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:55:16 GMT

rm104449@ee.tut.fi (M{kinen Riku) writes:
>Q: What exactly is a geek? Is it someone that doesn't know what geek is?
>I mean exactly. I think I get the drift...

"Geek" originally used to refer to people at carnivals who would do such
things as stand on a stage with a patter trying to get people to put money
up to see him do something like, say, bite the head off a chicken (a chicken
being handy for this).  After enough money was put up, they'd go ahead and
bite off the chicken's head.

In more recent decades, the term has evolved into something much similar
to "nerd" with a less intellectual connotation--- a similar degreee of
social ineptitude, but not necessarily the overtone of academic competence.
("Nerd" and "geek" can be used interchangeably, I believe.)  Fred Blassie
(sp?) has a song about Pencilneck Geeks...
	Pencilneck geek, grit-eatin' freak
	A scum-sucking pinhead with a lousy physique
is all I can remember from having heard it on the Dr. Demento radio show
years ago.

>BTW, who are all you people? Is a typical a.f.p reader a nerd who is into
>role-playing, computers, splatter movies and possibly reads the Playboy?

I'm into role-playing (both games and live improvisation), I'm good
enough at computers that people will give me money to coerce them into
obeying orders, and I have a chronic habit of Regency- and
Victorian-era ballroom dancing.  I do appreciate films with lots of
incredible violence, though I avoid anything billed as "horror" since
it's more on the order of "gross-out".  Evil Dead II is a classic, and
I tend to show up for Arnold Schwarzenegger chaos-and-destruction
films.  I like to think I managed to raise my social skills above the
"nerd" level in my late teenagerhood (though I was pretty bad when I
was younger).  However, I have enough friends that I don't
particularly care about such classifications any more.
/-------------v-----------------------v---------------------------------------\
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From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Confused
Summary: At least you don't have to translate it.
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:01:29 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Aug14.122001.16451@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu ( ) writes:
<In article <adavid.4@elaine.ee.und.ac.za> adavid@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (ANGUS DAVIDSON: FOURTH) writes:
<>Can some out there please explain to me the meaning behind 'Reflected 
<>sound...' as this is about the only phrase in Color of Magic that I could 
<>not work out, and it is bugging me no end.
<
<"Reflected sound as of underground spirits."
<--------Echo----       ------gnomes-------
<
<Echo-gnomes, or economics.

I'm glad Rincewind talked it out for me. I'd have been a long time
getting gnomes from underground spirits.

What do translators do with this sort of thing, i.e. puns? He tell
pun; groan? Do they do terrible things to Authors within strangling
range?

-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"This dream is brought to you by Sharassin of Shan. Dreams and
communication wizardry of all sorts at reasonable rates."  --  Sharassin of Shan
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: daniel@csgi63.dcs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow)
Subject: Re: Robots in Strata                    
Organization: School of Computer Studies, University of Leeds
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:55:02 GMT
X-Posted-From: csgi63.leeds.ac.uk
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <memo.587929@cix.compulink.co.uk>, tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett) writes:
> Whee-ooo.  And all _I_ thought I was doing was getting my heroine to
> progressively damage repair robots to see what eventually turned up...
> 
> I used to treasure a review that appear in the HHGTTG fan club magazine that
> set out to prove that The Light Fantastic was a point by point rip-off of
> Life, the Universe and Everything; can't remember the details except that
> Slartibartfast was 'obviously' played by Cohen the Barbarian.  But the best
> one, can't remember where it appeared, was real nasty about all the
> 'borrowed' Hitch-hikers stuff in The Dark Side of the Sun (to which the reply
> is a) there is very little similarity between the two and b) doesn't anyone
> look at publication dates any more?)
> 
> Terry

Which is just a tiny tad ironic, as anyone who has ever read Robert
Sheckley's Dimensions of Miracle will know...

Of course it could be an example of comic synchronicity or some such,
but I'm not going to buy that theory.

-- 
Dan Crow
daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk
From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: greigh weather
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:17:06 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Aug13.182326.19597@syma.sussex.ac.uk> stephenk@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Kendrick) writes:
>37 words for gray? I doubt it. 42 words for grey possibly ;)

The universe has just been destroyed and replaced by one even more
incomprehensible than the previous. The Question was obviously
"How many words do Londoners have for grey?".

-- 
Mike   hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu
"This dream is brought to you by Sharassin of Shan. Dreams and
communication wizardry of all sorts at reasonable rates."  --  Sharassin of Shan
From: mvw@anywhere.umd.edu (Martin V. Walser)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: city blocks? (was Re: GO: Error or Joke (and whose?))
Date: 15 Aug 92 07:26:59 GMT
Organization: Maryversity of Uniland

>>This is why we feel that we're allowed to gloat over getting Terry's books
>>eons before you colonials.
>
>I got _Eric_ in August 1990.  Pretty short eons, those.
>
>(I just finished Small Gods, and have the new Carpet People sitting at
>home waiting for me.)
>

  While we're on the subject of TP books not available in the U.S., 
would some kind Canadian soul point me in the direction of a book shop
here in North America where I could perhaps mail order the Corgi editions
of the likes of ERIC, SG... etc... I was going to send to England for them
but I figure I'll save a bit in postage and overall cost if I try this 
continent first.

Thank you in advance,

Mart (mvw@anywhere.umd.edu)


ps- To whom it may concern: Not all American are dense, you know.  I think
    we would BEST understand about "insewerants" jokes... We probably have
    the most insewerants scams per captia than any other country.  Not to 
    mention a health insewerants crisis of mass proportion.... but that I
    shall leave for soapboxing in alt.politics or alt.echognomics.
From: ajr@aber.ac.uk (Ade Rixon)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Tom Holt (ssshhh!)
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:13:39 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: University Of Wales, Aberystwyth - Party town!

OK yes, I freely admit I'm asking about another author on a.f.p. Sorry.

Can anyone give me a recommendation for any books by Tom Holt, especially
"Flying Dutchman"? I would say to hell with it and buy a copy anyway, but
I'm afraid it's a case of Once Bitten Twice Shy (which means: I once bought
a Craig Shaw Gardner book. I hate Craig Shaw Gardner. And the people who
gave him a publishing contract. And his family. And the woman who works
in our library....wish we had an orang-utang....<mutter mumble>)

Thanks,
Ade_
   /

PS. Terry - can't wait for "Witches Abroad" in paperback. Saw a copy of the
sleeve in our local bookshop today.
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From: pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk (Philippa Hogben)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Culcha? Moi?
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:06:03 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

daniel@csunb0.dcs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow) writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.172257.5572@rdg.dec.com>, winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Aug11.234157.29674@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
>> Elizabeth.Mccoy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Elizabeth Mccoy) writes:
>> |>
>> |>Same for "bloody" (which I gather is equivalent to "damn"?)
>> 
>> "Bloody" derives from "Blood of Christ", I believe.
>> 
>> --PSW

>Actually from "s'blood" which is a common Elizabethen contraction of the
>oath "God's blood".

I was told that "bloody" was a contraction of "By Our Lady".

Philippa Hogben

pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk
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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: The morris fetish
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 02:19:58 EDT

OK, I can't resist any more: Why all the references to morris dancing?
Near as I can tell, there are five mentions in three books, at least
(Strata, Guards! Guards!, and Reaper Man). Is TP a former morris
dancer? Is his best friend a morris dancer? Does the local side
practice outside the window of the room where he writes? Or is it just
that mentioning morris dancing is an easy way to get a laugh in
England?

--
Inspected by number 23
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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: Culcha? Moi?
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:26:53 GMT

mxr@neptune.dsc.com (Max "Postdoctoral Perspiration" Rible) writes:

>I like to think I managed to raise my social skills above the
>"nerd" level in my late teenagerhood.

So which level are you in right now? "Bozo"? "Moron"? "Bonehead"? Or
even the more sophisticated "idiot"? :-) (Having gone through all those
phases myself (forward and backward), I'd like to know how others do.)


May the "Fool" Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 06:14:36 EDT
From: Joshua Kronengold <JOKHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Witches Abroad queries
 <RSHOLMES.92Aug18135614@rodan.syr.EDU>

In article <RSHOLMES.92Aug18135614@rodan.syr.EDU>, rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich
holmes) says:
>
>What he faid. Take a look at a facfimile of the Declaration of
>Independence, for inftance.
>
>If anyone has a definitive explanation of this "long s" (is that the
>term?) versus the usual s (in English) I'd like to fee it.

Not definitive, but the way I heard it was that the long s developed in order
to save space on a page; I know it exifted in blackletter (or whatever) where
the ratio of ink/paper was about 1:1.  Gothic blackletter was alfo developed to
save space, or at least, to allow the scribe to have nice even marginf. which
also explains the use in gothic blackletter of combined letters (oo would be an
infinity sign, th would be a crossed h, etc)
-------
< Joshua Kronengold<JOKHC@CUNYVM.cuny.edu>                            >
< The Trash above is from the mind of Hunter college.  I have no      >
< opinions of my own, but am completely guided in every way by the    >
< school.                                                             >
<                                                                     >
From: cjenkinsn@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: RE : Re: The Annotated Pratchett File. . . .
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:05:37 GMT



*** Possible Spoiler ***

About Kin Arad and Robots

> On p.172 of the UK Corgi edition, when Kin Arad is exploring the
> Discworld control centre, she comes across a maintenance robot. She
> damages this robot and waits until another machine turns up to repair
> it. She damages this second machine and waits for a third one to arrive.
> The third one is "a tank-like machine ...".
>
> This creates a strong echo in my memory but, as I say, I'm sure it isn't
> from Ringworld. It sounds more like Harrison. Does anyone know where the
> reference does come from ?

I thought Chmee (Speaker to Animals) did that in Ringworld Engineers
but I maybe wrong. It also rings a faint echo with some other book.


Nick Jenkins 
User Advisor 
Computing Centre
Curtin University

Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Culcha? Moi?
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:29:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Paul S. Winalski (winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com) wrote:
: 
: In article <1992Aug11.234157.29674@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
: Elizabeth.Mccoy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Elizabeth Mccoy) writes:
: |>
: |>Same for "bloody" (which I gather is equivalent to "damn"?)
: 
: "Bloody" derives from "Blood of Christ", I believe.

Nooooo. It derives from ``by our Lady''. Right family, but you meant his
mum.

: 
: --PSW

pete
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From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: city blocks? (was Re: GO: Error or Joke (and whose?))
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:16:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.150141.6410@csd.brispoly.ac.uk>
pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris) writes:

>This is why we feel that we're allowed to gloat over getting Terry's books
>eons before you colonials.

I got _Eric_ in August 1990.  Pretty short eons, those.

(I just finished Small Gods, and have the new Carpet People sitting at
home waiting for me.)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Xref: sparky alt.fan.pratchett:1544 news.answers:2495
From: rm104449@ee.tut.fi (M{kinen Riku)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Inconsistencies (Tiny GG spoiler)
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:22:53 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, FINLAND


In article <1992Aug11.233536.29416@samba.oit.unc.edu> Elizabeth.Mccoy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Elizabeth Mccoy) writes:
l.... (Perhaps the stupidity and
>tendancy to blow up is really a defence mechanism evolved to try and
>keep people from messing with their genes anymore? Or a survival
>mechanism, designed to make humans feel sorry for them and take care of
>their every want?)
>
>--EM 

*Still* I don't think that blowing up is such a good survival mechanism...
Of course, I haven't tried, but...
Maybe it works for swamp dragons (I'm not one).

-- 
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   e-mail: rm104449@ee.tut.fi   \   myself 'Cheer up, things could be worse!'  
   phone: +358 31 183029        /   And sure enough, they get worse." -Skeeve
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From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: Re: Robots in Strata                    
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:26:21 +0000

Whee-ooo.  And all _I_ thought I was doing was getting my heroine to
progressively damage repair robots to see what eventually turned up...

I used to treasure a review that appear in the HHGTTG fan club magazine that
set out to prove that The Light Fantastic was a point by point rip-off of
Life, the Universe and Everything; can't remember the details except that
Slartibartfast was 'obviously' played by Cohen the Barbarian.  But the best
one, can't remember where it appeared, was real nasty about all the
'borrowed' Hitch-hikers stuff in The Dark Side of the Sun (to which the reply
is a) there is very little similarity between the two and b) doesn't anyone
look at publication dates any more?)

Terry
From: ah@dunaad.co.uk (Alan Hunter)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: The Annotated Pratchett File, v1.4
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:49:07 GMT
Organization: Johnson Hunter Limited

In article <714345663snx@warren.demon.co.uk> leveret@warren.demon.co.uk (Nick Leverton) writes:
>
>On p.172 of the UK Corgi edition, when Kin Arad is exploring the
>Discworld control centre, she comes across a maintenance robot. She
>damages this robot and waits until another machine turns up to repair
>it. She damages this second machine and waits for a third one to arrive.
>The third one is "a tank-like machine ...".
>
>This creates a strong echo in my memory but, as I say, I'm sure it isn't
>from Ringworld. It sounds more like Harrison. Does anyone know where the
>reference does come from ?
>

I've seen it in adventure games. The third one has what you want.

Alan


-- 
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Johnson Hunter Ltd
Isle of Islay, Scotland
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