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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:29:25 GMT
From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: crillee

George,

The font you mention is in Adobe format.  This means it is designed for use
with a printer that supports Adobe Postscript.  The only way to use it in
it's native form on a non-postscript printer is to purchase the Adobe
Typemanager for Windows (ATM).  It is possible to convert it to the generic
Win 3.1 TrueType format, but you will need a program like AllType or
FontMonger.  You can also convert the font with CorelDraw 3.0.

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Date: 14 Oct 92 22:36:42 GMT
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There is a shareware program out on the BBS's that might fill your
needs. I can't say which one you will find it on, so I will do the
next best. The program is IEDIT by James Bell. 4511 Sherwood Trace,
Gainsville FL, 32605. (904)372-3685. He is advertising the IEDIT at $8
and more robust version that will replace icons within .EXE's for
about $25.

Have fun, Bob
From: roysan@UXB.LIV.AC.UK (Mr. R. Coates)
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Subject: Re: TIF file conversion
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:00:36 GMT
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> OK all you Word for Windows 2.0 gurus!  I am rying to insert some
> TIF files into a document in Word 2.0.  However, when I try to
> insert them, I get an error message saying it cannot execute the
> TIF file conversion routine.  I checked to make sure it's in the
> %WINDOW%MSAPPS directory and that the correct statement is in my
> WIN.INI file.  Everything looks OK, but I cannot insert the TIF files!
> I can bring them in Word 1.1a just fine, but not Word 2.0.
> Any clues?  Is this a bug?  I'm on a very short deadline, like by
> this Thursday, to have this document complete, so any help is greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks...
> Patricia M. Schneider            Bitnet   - ICSPMS@ASUACAD
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know if it will help, but I had EXACTLY the same problem after
installing CorelDRAW 3.  If I removed the the Corel stuff from WIN.INI
then W4W behaved normally again.

--

Roy.


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                                  Roy Coates
                   Dept of Mech Eng. Liverpool University
                       P.O. Box 147, Liverpool L69 3BX

roysan@uxb.liverpool.ac.uk    Tel: 051-794-4862             Fax: 051-794-4848
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:43:49 EDT
From:         Qingsong Zhang <qingsong@MINMET.LAN.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      WP4Win with 256 colors

Hi everyone,

	I terribly need some help in WordPerfect for Windows. Recently I
upgrade my video card into a Super VGA which can display 256 colors in
640X480 mode. All the window programs work well except WordPerfect for
Windows. The problem is that all the charaters in the documents appears as
in the 1024X768 mode while the actual mode is 640X480 mode, the menu,
print preview and bar work normal. I tried all configurations but no help.

	Could you please give me some suggestions to solve this problem?

Thanks

Qingsong	qingsong@minmet.lan.mcgill.ca
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From:         "Ruediger Popp,
              EBI/GEK Uni Ka" <IE12%DKAUNI2.BITNET@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      Postscript>NeXT

We try to encorporate our PC's into an NeXT-Network, using
PC/TCP Software from FTP. Printout from the WINDOWS
Postscript printer driver should be redirected to NeXT.
Does anybody know how to get rid of the Ctrl-D at the
beginning of WINDOWS Postscript output ?
The "Ctrl-D" entry in WIN.INI doesn't work.
.
Ruediger Popp
University of Karlsruhe
Engler-Bunte-Institute        Phone: +49 721 608 2575
Karlsruhe                     FAX  : +49 721 693019
Germany                       E-mail IE12@DKAUNI2.BITNET
                                     * no NeXT-mail *
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From:         "Piero Fraternali" <fraterna@IPMEL2.ELET.POLIMI.IT>
Subject:      Address of list owner

Hello,

I would like to post a message directly to the list owner. Can anyone
send me his/her Internet address?

Thanks

Piero Fraternali
Dipartimento di Elettronica e Informazione
Politecnico di Milano at Como
I-22100 Italy
e-mail: fraterna@ipmel2.elet.polimi.it
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:42:04 EDT
From:         "Harry M. Kriz" <KRIZ@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      FontMonger & TrueType fonts

I've been learning more about fonts since getting FontMonger a
few days ago. It does conversions from ATM to TT, etc. Has some
font editing capabilities. Mostly I'm converting my ATM collection
to TrueType.

I had been collecting some TrueType fonts from CICA, and other
places. Some of these had embedded text saying they were converted
with AllType. They are dated in late 1991. I've found that I
get better fonts by converting my ATM collection myself using
FontMonger. Two things I have found:

1.  Many of the TTF files from CICA don't seem to have correct
    family relationships specified for the fonts. Thus, if
    you have a normal and a bold version in two different
    TTF files, they appear as separate choices in windows
    applications. Bolding such a font when the normal version
    is selected may not result in bold printing. FontMonger
    lets me specify the correct family relationships during
    my ATM conversion. Of course, I could also reprocess the
    TTF files with FontMonger and reset the family relationships,
    but there is a reason for not doing this.

2.  The reason for not simply reprocessing my TTF collection
    is that the fonts converted by FontMonger from ATM are
    nearly half the size of the TTF fonts I had gotten from
    CICA. On printing samples, I don't see any quality difference
    between a font I converted from ATM with FontMonger that
    comes out to be 30,000 bytes and one from the CICA TTF
    fonts that has the same name but is 50,000 bytes.

I have no explanation for these things as I know very little about
the technical aspects of fonts. I just thought others with the
font fetish who might be thinking about purchasing a conversion
program would be interested in this aspect of converting fonts.

--Harry

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:43:19 EST
From:         macphil <IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Windows Memory

On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:53:50 EDT Ed Schwalenberg said:
>  Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:16:55 +0200
>  From: Alex Eisler <JPGUREV@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
>
>  According to what I heard, Windows 3.0 had a 16Meg limit. I think that is
>also the limit for windows 3.1
>
>You're right about 3.0, but they fixed it in 3.1.  I've used 32-meg machines,
>and Microsoft claims to have used one with 72 megs in it.  I don't know what
>the upper bound is.

To be honest, you could install 1G if you really wanted to.  Now referencing
and using the memory properly is entirely another thing...!

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"The lesser of two evils is still evil." - Winston Churchill

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UUCP request att!D.att443ae6e to mhcnet!D.att443ae6e
failed on system 'mhcnet'.
Reason for failure:
	remote system can't create temp file
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:27:12 EST
From:         Vick Tewari <TEWARI@NKI.BITNET>
Subject:      Exiting Windows on a Snap

   I would like to know if anyone knows of a way to exit from Windows when you
terminate a DOS application normally?  Is there a way for me to exit from
Windows altogether after I have exited from a DOS application? I
know I can press keys on the keyboard to do this task, but I would like to know
of a way to set it, so upon termination of a certain application, I would be
placed into my operating system ,Windows would have been properly terminated
and I would not have pressed one key on my keyboard or clicked one click on my
mouse?
    What I was looking to do was immeadiately upon exiting a DOS application
which had been running under Windows, I would be thrown back into my operating
system and Windows would have been nicely,neatly and properly closed via
either some PIF file settings or writing a short program or a DOS .bat file
which would spit out keyboard command to properly allow me to exit.
I'm pretty sure there are no PIF file settings to allow me to do this.
Since PIF files can execute DOS batch files, tried putting ANSI escape
sequences for (ALT-F4),(Return) in the .bat file but this did no good since
I did not get back into the Windows environment until after the entire batch
file had executed.
exmaple (code for wp.bat)
wp.exe  (executable file)
ESC{....  (code for ANSI escape sequences representing (ALT-F4) (Enter) would
           go here.
           The left squigly bracket represents a left bracket, my keyboard has
           no left bracket key.)
I wanted to know if anyone knew what to do. If I were to write some code
which would emulate the keystrokes how could I talk to Windows the program/
environment?
If righting code isn't the way to go does anyone have any ideas that might
lead me in the right direction.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks a lot
in advance.

Vick Tewari
Nathan Kline Institute
Bitnet:  TEWARI@NKI
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Date: 15 Oct 92 18:51:00 GMT
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 i have had  nothing but  positive experiences with  QEMM/386.   i am  using
 windows 3.1, dos  5.0 and QEMM  6.x.  this  combination has been  extremely
 stable.  i  have not experienced  the types of  problems described since  i
 upgraded from dos 3.3 to dos 5, windows 3.0 to 3.1 and QEMM 5 to 6.  i have
 over 145k stuffed high  with QEMM loadhi,  including CD/ROM drivers,  token
 ring card drivers,  3270 netbios drivers,  share, and smartdrv.   i  highly
 recommend QEMM as a memory manager.

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From:         Greg Girard <ggirard@MATT.KSU.KSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Procomm+ for Windows

"Doug Morack (814)867-9032" <DCM115@PSUVM.BITNET> writes:

>    Can anyone explain to me why Procomm+ for Windows always redifines the '+'
>key on the Keypad to '[OI'?  That is highly annoying since the keymap that I
>am used to defines it at "[OM".  Anyone else have similar experiences or am I
>doing something wrong....  It looks like it changes it when I actually connect
>to the host and define the terminal type....  I have no problems with the DOS
>version at all.....   Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?

>                                                       Doug

What terminal emulation are you trying to use?   Depending on which
one it is, the host can actually remap some of the keys.
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Kansas State University     |Internet:  ggirard@ksuvm.ksu.edu
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From:         KLG1@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK
Subject:      Screen fonts in Write

>> Using the Generic printer driver and selecting ROMAN 10CPI the
>> text lines up with the ruler on the screen (10 characters every
>> inch) and output is ok. Selecting a different printer driver
>> (Epson fx850; HP laserjet 2 etc) and choosing ROMAN 10CPI or
>> Courier 10 (fixed pitch) results in a more compact screen font
>> selected ie more than 10 CPI within the Ruler markings. Printout
>> is in the desired font but the screen layout has to be juggled
>> to get desired output.
  .................
> I am not sure what version of Windows you are using. If 3.0
> you will need to use an on screen type manager (Adobe Type
> Manager comes to mind. They are up to version 2.0) in order
> to see the fonts on screen.  Of course you will only be able
> to see them correctly on the screen if the screen type manager
> "recognizes" the font, otherwise you will get a "best guess"
> display.  In Windows 3.1 True Type fonts are handled by Windows
> just fine, but with all the same caveats as above.  Yes, this
> works in Write and any other compliant Windows app.  I guess the
> long and short of it is that the Windows font manager (which
> ever you are using) must recognize the font that you want to
> print in order to display it "exactly" right.
Howard Blakesley
  .................

Thanks for your reply Howard - I'm sure your right, a screen type
manager would help, particularly when different/numerous fonts need
to be displayed. In this users case, her requirements are very
basic and Roman 10CPI would cover most. As mentioned the screen
font is obviously present (in \windows3\system ?) - it displays
correctly with the GENERIC driver selected but choosing other
printers results in the 'interaction' of the driver and windows
selecting an incorrect default screen font. This can be altered by
removing the appropriate *.fon file in \windows3\system and windows
chooses a 'second guess' but not 10 CPI. I've not tried every
permutation in the book and need to keep a fair selection of fonts
available for Windows displays etc. I just hoped there was a simple
entry to put in the *.ini files or some 'little tweek' in
windows/drivers etc required. It seems such a simple bug that
Windows could be configured for rather than use 'third party
solutions. This seems to be the case on 3.0 and 3.1.

It does seem odd that any respectable Wordprocessing program will
not display one of the most basic fonts correctly for what are
the most standard printers around - HP; EPSON etc
Keith Griffin
klg1@uk.ac.cam.phx
From: dgwdgw@REDDPGMING.WITCHCRAFT.COM (Dennis G. Winter [red D])
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Subject: Re: Notepad (F)ile,(O)pen file list
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:39:10 GMT
Reply-To: "Dennis G. Winter [red D]" <dgwdgw@reddpgming.witchcraft.com>
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>Is there a way to customize the file selection templates under NOTEPAD?
>(I.E. The list of file selectors (*.*, *.txt) that comes up when you
>do FILE/OPEN)

If you have a hex editor such as norton utilities, you can open the notepad
executable and search for txt, and change it to, for example, doc. Save a
copy of notepad first. Don't do this unless you understand about editing
executables--ie, don't add or delete any characters.

D.

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From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: crillee

George,

The font you mention is in Adobe format.  This means it is designed for use
with a printer that supports Adobe Postscript.  The only way to use it in
it's native form on a non-postscript printer is to purchase the Adobe
Typemanager for Windows (ATM).  It is possible to convert it to the generic
Win 3.1 TrueType format, but you will need a program like AllType or
FontMonger.  You can also convert the font with CorelDraw 3.0.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:57:00 MET
From:         Rob Lussenburg <LUSSENBURG@RULBUR.LEIDENUNIV.NL>
Subject:      UUencode & UUdecode programs

Dear netters,

Let me burden you with some information nobody asked for:

In the last few days there has been a number of inquiries about UUencode- &
UUdecode-programs for Windows. Two suggestions were made:

        Extract v. 3.04         file EXTRCT34.ZIP
        UUcode v. 1.7           file UUCODE17.ZIP

Out of curiosity, I FTP'd both of these programs and started the trial period
for myself. My first findings are:

Extract certainly has the looks: it's colourful, has beautifully customized
buttons, a splendid help file and a somewhat sexy overall feel. Somehow the
word 'Borland' keeps popping up in my mind when I look at it. It's made by
Darren E. Penner from Canada. Registration will cost you a stamp.
Interestingly enough, the program will also run as a DOS program.
BUT: it's only a UUDEcoder. It works well on my system.
                   ~~
UUcode on the other hand looks a bit shy. It's nothing more than just an
empty window with 4 menu choices: Decode!, Encode!, Exit! & About! (don't ask
me what the exclamation signs mean). It's made by Bruce Sabalaskey from .
Illinois, and registration is $5,00. On my system, it behaves perfectly. I
consider it a very useful little program.

My trial period continues.


Sincerely,

Rob Lussenburg
Rijksuniversiteit Leiden
the Netherlands
LUSSENBURG@RULBUR.LeidenUniv.nl
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:29:07 -0400
From:         Louis Jezsik <jezsik@PX2.STFX.CA>
Subject: Re: TrueType Fonts for Sale.

To heck with buying TT fonts ... are there any FTP sites with
TT fonts for downloading?  After checking the usual places, I
found that the TT font directories were locked up due to some
non-shareware fonts being in the system.  Should I be looking
elsewhere, or be patient?
Louis
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From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WIN3-L: Frightening Halloween ideas w

Have a room with a simple PC running Win3.1--486 running at 50Mhz, SVGA
with a Diamond Speedstar, 120MB HD, CD-ROM, etc.  It's humming right along
until this creeature in the form of a UAE come out of nowhere to render the
computer helpless.  It gobbles up all of the RAM, eats the hard disk like a
cookie (and it wasn't backed-up), hypnotizes the display board and monitor
to think it is a monochrome system, and drops metal fragments onto the
motherboard and send 1000 volts accross it.
______________________________________________________________________________
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ALL-IN-1 mail users:  IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU@IN
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From:         Howard Blakesley <HBLAKE%NNOMED.BITNET@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU>

********************** message received**************************

From:         KLG1@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK

I've a really naive query that's irritating me no end.
I support numerous wordprocessing packages here with Wordperfect
being our standard. A user, recently use to the MAC world, is
trying Windows 'Terminal' and 'Write' for her limited
requirements - she feels at home with this type of interface. She
may opt for a specific WP package later.
I use Windows frequently but have hardly ever used Write - it seems
a simple enough prog. - but what is it in Windows that needs
setting to ensure the screen fonts display of text approximates to
the printed output.
******************  text  omitted*********************************
Keith Griffin

KLG1@UK.AC.CAM.PHX
********************message end************************************

Keith
I am not sure what version of Windows you are using. If 3.0
you will need to use an on screen type manager (Adobe Type
Manager comes to mind. They are up to version 2.0) in order
to see the fonts on screen.  Of course you will only be able
to see them correctly on the screen if the screen type manager
"recognizes" the font, otherwise you will get a "best guess"
display.  In Windows 3.1 True Type fonts are handled by Windows
just fine, but with all the same caveats as above.  Yes, this
works in Write and any other compliant Windows app.  I guess the
long and short of it is that the Windows font manager (which
ever you are using) must recognize the font that you want to
print in order to display it "exactly" right.
BTW IMHO WYSIWYG word processing is for the insane or very
wealthy with lots of free time.
HTH

Howard Blakesley

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