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From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:46:56 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <jonal.49@dhhalden.no> jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD) writes:
>
>Do you know if this will work on graphic cards as well (should do, but one 
>never knows...)? I'm planning to buy a CuberCube card in January or so.
>
>BTW, does anyone know if I can just hook my TT up to a Hitachi 2087 (20" 
>1280x1024 color multisync monitor) and get the TT high mode? Some German 
>firms advertises boxes to get all modes on a hi-res multisync. Any Germans 
>out there?

I don't know really.  You might have to get some kind of driver or something
for it to work on graphics cards.

Steve
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Thank you Darek for your support of th
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:36:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Sep4.203656.2672
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

Aw, c'mon Darek.  Give us a break, will ya?  Even good natured Atarians get a
little tired of being called STUPID (in so many words) all the time.  Sheeesh!

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From: glennd@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Glen Deardorff GDP)
Subject: Falcon Sampling (was Re: FALCON)
Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 20:46:47 GMT

...Stuff...

> And fourth, how many times do you have to be told that samplers and
> recorders are completely different?  A sampler's DAC involves things like
> moving anti-aliasing filters and variable-frequency playback.  An audio
> recorder can make do with fixed-frequency playback and simple D/A
> conversion.

...Stuff...

> You still don't get it, do you?  Look, if you really do know the difference
> between samplers and pro audio recorders, then stop using samplers as your
> ideal.  Compare it to the S/N specs and D/A conversion of, say, Hybrid Arts'
> Digital Master system.  Or Cubase Audio.  Or something in the same ballpark.

So, Thomas (or anyone), what do you think about the Falcon's capabililities strictly as a sampler?  This is what intrigues me the most (as opposed to 
direct-to-disk recording), since my music is entirely electronic.  Do you think the components are "up to snuff" for pro-quality (ambiguous term, I know) sampling?  How might the sound differ from, say an Emax II ?

I'd love to see the Falcon equipped with appropriate software for the DSP, to
emulate something like the Kurzweil K2000, where you take a sample and mutate it
beyond mortal recognition.

- Glenn 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: How do I play .SNG files?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 07:13:26 GMT

HELP!  I've just spent several hours downloading music players in an attempt to
locate something that will play .SNG files contained in the file SNGFILES.ARC
on atari.archive.umich.edu, but only 1 program (MIDISEQ.ARC) even asks for .SNG
files, and it's idea of an .SNG file is not the same as the ones in
SNGFILES.ARC.  (It double-bombs when I try to read the .SNG files, except when I
tried saving a blank one with the program itself.  It read that one fine.)

There is also an SNGFILE2.ARC I have not bothered to get.

***Please, if anyone knows what will read these files please e-mail me.***
(Please don't just post it/followup here, because I don't read this area.)  

System info: 512k Atari 520ST, 400k ss drive, composite monitor.

(Yeah, I know, just about the lousiest system one can own.  At least I have a
composite monitor now instead of my old b&w tv...)


Scott "Wish I had a 60mhz '040 enhanced Mega 4ST" Miller

/|\ Atari rules!
From: only_bbs!JOHN_LOCKARD@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: (none)
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:35:00 GMT
Organization: Ouch! That Hurt!
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 >  Imagine...home digital recording...  
   
 Imagine when the big Japanese record companies, like CBS, have thier  
 lawyers complain to congress and have the DCC-SCSM installed on the  
 Falcon's disk-drive?  =^)  
   
 What I like about the Falcon is that one can do a spectrum-like technique  
 using 300 inerupts as opposed to 18,000 spectrum does on the ST.  Heck,  
 you can do it even in ST Basic.  =^)
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: 256 grayscale scanner
Keywords: scanner
Date: 31 Aug 92 05:45:20 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

mluoto@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Markku Luoto) writes:

>	Since the world of mail shopping is small,
>	thought this might go out:

>	I'm looking for (yes, to buy) a 256-grayscale scanner, and I
>	tend to get away cheap, this means that I propably must settle
>	for a HANDY-SCANNER but if you know of something....

The Golden Image and Migraph hand scanners support some kind of greyscaling-
I only use it for monochrome, but it does report dithered patterns then.
They are fairly cheap - probably about $US250 tops (since I bought one
for $AU450 - and it was imported of course).


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From: thiele@quando.quantum.de (Holger Thiele)
Subject: File system checker for MiNT?
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:42:54 GMT


Hello everybody,

I am searching for a file system checker for a minix-compatible
file system under MiNT (MiNT and minix.xfs). Is there someone who
knows about such a program?

Thanks in advance


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From: sav@nanette.sni.de (Dr.Savory)
Subject: Calamus 1.09 Memsize?
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:13:33 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany


How much (free) memory do I need to run Calamus 1.09N?

Tanx for replies/followups,
                                Stu Savory
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: JAGUAR - graphics, could it be?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:58:22 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

A very unexcited, Mike writes:

>It might use Interlace.... and you are excited about it?  

>Yuck!   That sounds like a nasty form of torture, or perhaps it will

...

>but everytime you play the game, it gives you this splitting headache.

 
Guess you don't watch TV much, eh, Mike..?

If you did, it would give you a splitting headache every time
you watched it...

Guess what regular TV uses...?  Oh no..!   Interlace..!!
 
(Not that I believe for a second that there's anything like an
Atari Jaguar in my immediate future to threaten me with splitting
headaches or anything else...)
 
BobR
From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Atari Corp. Scand. AB (Norway)
Subject: Re: Atari ST with 60Mhz 68040 on the Atari Messe
	<H.4oWNqRisp5g@fredrik.atari.no> <laais8INNga6@aludra.usc.edu>
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 22:53:34 MET

In <laais8INNga6@aludra.usc.edu>, Juxtaposer writes:
>In article <H.4oWNqRisp5g@fredrik.atari.no> jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>>The 68040 do have an internal clock doubler, although Motorola does'nt make 
>>such a big fuzz about it. But using the Intel terminology in advertisment, the
>>68040/33Mhz would be a 68040/66Mhz (DXII) processor! I guess this is what the 
>>maker of this 68040 ST enhancement project has done....
>
>	Actually, this is kind of backwards.  Every Intel chip <486 and every
>Motorolla chip <'040 ('030?) use clock dividers.  The '486 and the '040 
>actually use the external clock for their internal logic.  Intel DX2 chips
>use an external clock that is twice the speed at which it communicates with
>its external lines (Address, data, BACK, etc.), and thus the rest of the
>system runs at 1/2 of the processors speed.  I believe the '386 uses a 
>2:1 divider.  
>

This I have to check out a bit before I can accept:-) In some way it makes
sence, but in other it doesn't!

I remember to have read that you could replace a 486DX with a 486DX2 and gain
som real increase in performance, without changing the clock frequency in the
machin!?!?

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From: kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: The REAL Falcon specs wanted!
Keywords: Falcon specs.
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:57:05 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug31.123840.1064@ludd.luth.se> d91-jsn@ludd.luth.se (Joachim Str|mbergson) writes:
>
>Graphics modes: I've heard quite alot of garbage and rumours. If anyone could write down the real modes... Is it true about all those interlace modes???
> (Thats REALLY bad!)

The interlace modes are mainly there for TV output (since TV is interlaced
anyway).  I seriously don't understand why everyone's going nuts about it.
If you don't want any interlacing, just get a VGA monitor.

Steve

  
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From: avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Bug in TOSWIN (was: Re: MiNT 0.95 now available)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:07:48 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <BAMMI.92Aug15103416@acae127.cadence.com> bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes:


>personally dont like the idea of having to top a window to do anything
>useful with it. if its visible you should be able to do stuff with
>it. i really dislike GEMs policy of having to top windows  (which it
>half enforces anyways).

I TOTALLY AGREE

I am not using MiNT at the moment, because something with my GEMINI goes
wrong, but I'm working on the ST text editor of the future, which makes
use of the right mouse button to work in background windows. It is very
annoying that mouse events are usually (at least not on my STE) not sent
to background windows if the top window is not owned by the same
application (I am talking about DA- multitasking now).
  I sure wish this is going to change in MultiTOS, which is after all at
the moment a more vital concern to all of us than just MiNT, I think. 

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From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcons at Glendale (was Re: Excuse my ignorance...)
Date: 28 Aug 1992 19:23:16 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug28.154321.3709@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
>In article 15014@athena.cs.uga.edu, kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
>>The Southern California Computer Faire is Sept. 12-13 at the Glendale Civic
>>Auditorium (in Glendale, CA of course). ...
>>A showing of the Falcon030 at the Glendale show is expected, but not
>>promised.
>
>Tarpinian won't promise a Falcon will be present but _I_ can <grins>.  Several
>developers intend to bring along their own Falcons even if Atari doesn't
>(but I rather expect them to as well).

  I'm pretty sure John T. will have a Falcon at the show -- he's been bragging
to me about how he was going to get his own advanced box, so if nothing else
he'll drag his along. I'm sure there will be plenty of Falcons to look at, so
expectations should be kept pretty high.

>It's going to be fun so be there!  And stop by our booth and say "G'day", too!

  Sure! But first I want to stop by the AtariUser Magazine booth and complain.
They've been using some cheap hack to do their Lynx video game reviews...

                                                --R.J.
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From: tiemann@iis.ethz.ch (Bjoern Tiemann)
Subject: Re: Atari ST with 60Mhz 68040 on the Atari Messe
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:17:58 GMT

I also saw this thing at the 'atari messe' and talked some words
with the person who has built it.

In my eyes it's not fair to sell this system as a '60 MHz 68040'.
Maybe 60 MHz is the internal clock speed. But one has to specify
the _external_ clock rate, as well as the external data bus width.
(The MC68000 is not a 32 bit machine). NeXT and others do this also
this way.

Beside of this. Is it true that the ST-Magazin will present this
as a instruction to do-it-yourself?

Bjoern (tiemann@iis.ethz.ch)

(also waiting for the Falcon 040)

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From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: *6:1* Audio Compression on the Falcon030
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:03:37 GMT

Since the Falcon030 has attracted interest in the Audio field, I would advice
any programmer planning on releasing Falcon030 Audio Software to read the "Dr.
Dobb's Journal" July 1992 issue where John W. Ratcliff proposes a compression
algorithm called "ACOMP" that yields better than 6:1 compression on human
voice, and between 1.5:1 to 3:1 on music, while maintaining almost full
fidelity. With the implementation of the DSP, this algorithm can be enchanced
in order to speed-up the process, which is a very processor intensive one.

The algorithm incorporates two techniques, which are silence encoding and
delta modulation. The entire algorithm source code in Assembly is included
(for the Intel processors). This can be used not only for the Falcon030 but
also the other line of Atari computers such as the (M)ST(E), and the TT.

Sincerely,
Mark Kovarski
IBMNet: Mark Kovarski@40:649/313
Internet: kovarski@zooid.guild.org
Opinions expressed are my own.
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TT030 help!
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:03:41 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Sep2.140630.1653@hellgate.utah.edu> noykman%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nathan Dykman) writes:
>Hello fellow Atari users! I am interested in getting a TT030. But before

Good choice.

>How much more would an upgrade to 4meg cost, on average, over the basic system?
>          ""                      8meg           ""

To 4meg ST RAM: about $300.  To 4megST/4megTT: the $300 for ST RAM, plus about
$500-$600

>How much more would an upgrade to 120meg cost over a basic system?

The price of a 120meg drive.  You can get the TT without internal drive, and
either you or your dealer can install the 120meg drive.

>What is a good price for a TT030 basic system?

Oh, about $1600, but read on...

>How much software is avaliable or in delevopment for the TT?

Tons.

>Would it be possible to use the 68040 60mhz package of recent fame with
>it?

No.

>When will TOS 3.06 come out standard on the TT (I heard this fall.) Will prices
>be likely to rise after this upgrade? 

TOS 3.06 and 1.44meg drives come standard.  If your dealer told you this fall,
search for another dealer.  I've heard that TT prices have come down a bit too.

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From: rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin)
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 10:56:38 GMT

In article <2A9C93FB.14833@orion.oac.uci.edu> jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance) writes:
>hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
>>
>>I guess everyone knows that the GEM interface has gone '3-D', i.e 3D borders
>>on windows and 3D buttons just like Windows. 
>
>  That's a new one to me.  I was wondering when Atari would finally
>update the "look" of the interface to make GEM more modern looking.
>  So is this 3D thing a part of TOS 2.07 and 3.07 or is it a part of
>Multi-TOS or did it happen before this and I just missed it? 
>
>--
>Joachim Vance

And I am wondering whether FSMGDOS (or whatever it'll be called) is to be
included in Falcon GEM. Without this, I am sure many will be disappointed.

- Rahin
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ST diskettes from SPARCstation
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:21:32 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au


>> How do I format/read/write ST compatible diskettes on a Sun SPARCstation?

sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier) writes:

>Format: fdformat -ld  	(l= lowdensity d=DOS filesystem)
>read and write, etc...: Mfiles utilities:
>	mcopy * a:
>	mdir
>	mformat -s9 a: 	(ne formatte pas: reinitialise seulement)
>	mmd		(make dir)
>	mcd

(The "Mtools" package is in comp.sources.misc/comp.sources.unix,
volume 11 or 12)


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From: paetau@mits.mdata.fi (Rasmus Paetau)
Subject: Re: Falcon Resolutions
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:58:52 GMT

In article <BtILG9.Knz@rice.edu> vjrao@owlnet.rice.edu (Vinay Julapalli Rao) writes:
>The following message describes the resolution modes on the Falcon 030:
>
>
>Resolutions available on the Atari Falcon030
>(c) 1992 Atari Corp. Written by John Townsend
>=========================================================================
>This document may be re-printed again and again as long as the Atari
>copyright remains intact.
>=========================================================================
>

[Stuff deleted]

>   4 color,  line-doubling, VGA: 320x240,    4 colors, 2 planes
>  16 color,  line-doubling, VGA: 320x240,   16 colors, 4 planes
> 256 color,  line-doubling, VGA: 320x240,  256 colors, 8 planes
> True color, line-doubling, VGA: 320x240,  true color

[More stuff deleted]

>   4 color, line-doubling, VGA:  640x240,    4 colors, 2 planes
>  16 color, line-doubling, VGA:  640x240,   16 colors, 4 planes
> 256 color, line-doubling, VGA:  640x240,  256 colors, 8 planes

What does this line-doubling mean?

[Even more stuff deleted]

>independently. Special Note: On a VGA monitor, overscan is "faked".. since the
>video hardware doesn't have the capability to do overscan on a VGA monitor, we
>made it so that if a overscan mode is set on a VGA monitor, you still see the
>normal size screen, but the screen is a window onto the bigger overscanned
>image. Make sense? We did this for compatibility. This way if a game that has
>an overscanned starup picture can use the same pic on both the VGA monitor and
>the TV monitor. Pretty cool, eh? <grin>

Is the Multisync overscan "real" ?

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From: Dirk_Steins@k2.maus.de (Dirk Steins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon thoughts....
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:11:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: K2.A46123
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

a>But memory is the big problem - Atari aren't using SIMMs for size
a>reasons - so how much are upgrades going to cost? And how fast can third
a>party sources get them out?

On the Falcon RAM-Cards only RAM-Chips are located, the memory controller is
placed on the board. So there should be no real problem for any third party
company to build their own memory expansions for the Falcon.

Dirk
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From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Re: FALCON
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:07:52 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands

>>>>> jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca ( John Henders ) (JH) writes:

JH> 	Didn't one article mention a direct out from the DSP chip as one
JH> of the ports on the back of the Falcon? If this is the case, direct 
JH> to disk recording would definately possible using outboard d/a's.

Yes, it has a DSP bus on the back, you can use this to connect AD/DA's or
AES/SBU or S/PDIF etc.

>>>>> an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker) (JB) writes:

JB> 	Wouldn't cd player hardware have a fixed rate of 41khz (or is it 44)?

It is 44.1KHz

>>>>> dmb@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) (DB) writes:

DB> This was simply inherited from the STe's DMA sound system.  The
DB> nonstandard sampling rates really suck rocks, if you ask me.  6.25,
DB> 12.6, 25, and 50 just don't cut it.  I hope the Falcon can do any
DB> sample rate, otherwise it's totally useless for professional digital
DB> audio work.

There is also a pin for an external clock so you can get nonstandard
sampling rates (e.g. 44.1KHz for CD)


DB> The point is that the sound quality you'll get out of a Falcon hardly
DB> compares to what you'd get out of high-end (or even low-end) samplers.
DB> Given that, I *hardly* think you'd want to use the Falcon for serious
DB> direct to disk (multitracked or otherwise) digital recording.  Not to
DB> mention the fact that you'll need to buy a pretty big hard disk to go
DB> along with your Falcon if you want to do direct-to-disk recording.  That
DB> adds a couple thousand right there (for a 1 gig drive, for example).

DB> The original claim I responded to was (essentially) "the Falcon will
DB> revolutionize the music business because it will allow anyone to do
DB> professional direct-to-disk recording for very little money." The
DB> Falcon may be a nice machine, but it's not *that* nice.

Did you test the Falcon? Or is it just your expectation?
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