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From: cs225b26@dcl-nxt50.cso.uiuc.edu (cs225 student)
Subject: Re:Usernet All star team
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:23:27 GMT

Here's my picks:

Eastern Conference

SF: D.Schrempf  - 6'10 - Pacers	   | Great all around game. Pippen? No way
PF: L. Johnson  - 6'7" - Hornets   | Only great PF in the East.
C:  S. O'Neal   - 7'1" - Magic	   | Just edges out a revived Ewing.
SG: M. Jordan   - 6'6" - Bulls	   | Reggie Lewis is a very distant 2nd.
PG: M. Price    - 6'1" - Cavs	   | Great vision; uncanny clutch player.

Coach: Pat Reilly - Knicks

Western Conference

SF: C. Mullin   - 6'7" - Warriors  | Not the poor man's Bird anymore
PF: C. Barkley  - 6'6" - Suns	   | This year's MVP
C:  D. Robinson - 7'0" - Spurs	   | Best all around center, ever!
SG: D. Ellis    - 6'7" - Spurs	   | First great play since car accident.
PG: J. Stockton - 6'2" - Jazz	   | Magic's assist record all but history

Coach: George Karl - Sonics

Conspicuous by their absence?......

Karl Malone - 6'9" - Jazz  : If he was in the East he'd be a legend in his
			     own time.

M. Richmond - 6'4" - Kings : Owens trade ruined his career.

T. Hardaway - 6'1" - G.S.  : I could score 20 ppg if I shot that much too.
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From: sbulmahn@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Scott Bulmahn)
Subject: Any news about "Good News" Levingston??
Reply-To: sbulmahn@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Scott Bulmahn)
Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:17:21 GMT

I heard Cliff Levingston is playing this year in Greece (or is it maybe
Italy?).  I saw a list of NBA players over seas, but didnt see his name.
Anyone know anything, how he is doing, etc?

Thanks a lot,
Scott Bulmahn
sbulmahn@ncsa.uiuc.edu


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From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude)
Subject: If draft were today .... ?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:32:30 GMT


hi !,
	I was wondering if draft day were today who the top 5 picks would be ?
	Will be glad to hear from U folks out there.

J Anand.


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From: s883410@otto (Matthew HEASLY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Rodney Monroe?
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:32:59 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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wbdavis@eos.ncsu.edu (WESLEY BOYD DAVIS) writes:

>In article <1993Jan22.085815.28272@muddcs.claremont.edu> byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know the whereabouts of Rodney Monroe?  Is he still on 
>>Atlanta?
>>
>>thanks all for your help.
>>
>>ben
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>>
>>"Nothing spoils fun like finding out it builds character"
>>						-Calvin from 
>>						"Calvin and Hobbes"
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>	Rodney Monroe was cut by the Atlanta Hawks sometime ago and has
>signed on with the Fayetteville Fliers a CBA (?) basketball team near
>Raleigh.  
>	On a related note, his former teammate Chris Corchiani was
>cut by the Orlando Magic and also signed with the Fliers.  I heard on
>an HTS broadcast of one of the Washington Bullets' games that he was
>given a 10day contract.... has anyone heard anything more about this?
>Will he and Guggs be teaming up any time soon?
	
	Actually, he has been signed by the Canberra Cannons in  Australia's
NBL.  Never seen him play tho'

							Marcus!
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From: jtinsley@brahms.udel.edu (Jeremy Tinsley)
Subject: cards
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:00:57 GMT


I'm looking for some competitive prices on the 92-93 Ultra Fleer
ALL-NBA and AWARD WINNERS. Can someone help me?

							Jay


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From: jont@harlqn.co.uk (Jon Thackray)
Subject: Re: SLAM and 3-pt
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
	<1993Jan21.174802.6676@ultb.isc.rit.edu> <C180tM.L5K@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<1993Jan21.220724.2376@rti.rti.org>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:08:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.220724.2376@rti.rti.org> wgr@rti.rti.org writes:

   Kenny and BJ are both among this season's leaders in 3-point field goal
   percentage, but neither of them has attempted many.  By competing in the
   3-point contest, Smith will have the distinction of being in both that
   contest and the slam dunk competition.  Michael Jordan has been in both
   (although I'm sure he'd just as soon people forget his 3-point fiasco).
   Have any other players been in both contests?

I believe Michael Cooper has been in both.
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From: m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Chris Morris
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:03:37 GMT
Organization: Federal Reserve Board
In-reply-to: shankar@src.honeywell.com's message of 23 Jan 93 21:34:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.213453.13614@src.honeywell.com> shankar@src.honeywell.com (Subash Shankar) writes:
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   From: shankar@src.honeywell.com (Subash Shankar)
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   Date: 23 Jan 93 21:34:53 GMT
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   I noticed that Chris Morris didn't play last game, and had few minutes
   the previous game.

   Does anybody know what his status his?  Injury, out for how long?
   Thanks
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Strained hip flexor.  Day to day.  Not terribly serious (the injury, not
his playing style 8^)  ).

WC
From: cs161fir@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: JJ time
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:39:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan22.171227.15323@ennews.eas.asu.edu>,
koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
>It's wierd too, What's Dallas expect to get?  They can't throw him
>away and the longer they wait, the harder it'll be to get rid of
>him.

I'm not surprised at all that they're waiting.  They have enough
offers that nobody can afford to say to them, "Take it or leave it,
because this offer is going to come off the table."  Not even Jerry
Colangelo, who has made that technique his trademark, is in a
position to do that in this case.

I expect that all (or at least most) offers that have been made to
Dallas re: JJ will still be valid tomorrow, and most of next month.
So Dallas waits, and when Feb. 25th rolls around, they will take the
best offer that has been made to that point.

That's my theory, anyway.  Time will tell-- we'll know for sure in
32 days.

Tony
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From: bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Brad "Boomer" Williams)
Subject: Re: Lefty's who play right handed <was Re: left handed teams>
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:58:07 EST

In article <timlin.727643973@spot.Colorado.EDU> timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin) writes:
>tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada) writes:
>
>>     This has gone on long enough.  The above are nice choices, but you
>>guys are overlooking some not-so-unknown names:  Bill Russell and Larry
>>Bird.  (Yeah Bird was a righty as a shooter, but he wrote left-handed
>>and was pretty ambidextrous as a player anyway.)
>
>So now we have:
>
> C:
>PF:
>SF: Bird
>SG: Gill
>PG:
>
>I've always been fascinated by people like this (also Andre Dawson in 
>baseball) because I am right handed, but only because my dad din't believe
>in left handedness.
>
>Add anyone you know about.

	Danny Ainge shoots right-handed, and writes and eats lefty.  When he
was with the Blue Jays, he threw righty (he was a middle infielder) and, if
memory serves, batted (note that I didn't say 'hit' :-) ) righty as well.

>
>Mike Timlin
>timlin@spot.colorado.edu

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From: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM (Don Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Top 5 NBA Centers
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:47:08 GMT
Reply-To: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 2395@blue.cis.pitt.edu, pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
> bprisco@shearson.com writes:
> 
> 
> >5. Ewing     - a lot of physical ability, not much mental
> 
> 
> Who are you to judge the intelligence of another man? People who them
> selves have zero ability like to needlessly criticise. Also, those who
> ....
> 
> 
> makala
> 
> 


I am a fan who has every right to express an opinion. FYI, I am a Knick fan
and a Ewing fan; I just feel that Patrick is in the habit of making
bad decisions down the stretch. You have a right to disagree and express so.

Many of my friends who are Knick fans share my feelings about
Patrick. Any other opinions out there on Ewing? 

-Bobby
---------------------------------------------------

Those of us in Warrior land would gladly take him
and his bad decisions.

Donald
From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: If draft were today .... ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:26:45 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711


As everone else mentioned, it depends on which underclassmen come out.  

On a related note, isn't there going to be a salary cap for rookies enacted 
in the next year or so?  I am positive that at this time, ALL the prospective
underclassmen would be coming out.. probably even those after their freshman
year (like Kidd) just so they can sign in the NBA before the salary cap for
rookies is enforced.

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From: davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Laker/Clipper TRADE.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:40:57 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

In article <1993Jan26.074018.59@pasadena-dc.bofa.com> centeno@pasadena-dc.bofa.com (R. CENTENO) writes:
>Yesterday I was listening to KMEN sports radio (1290 am, in the Inland Empire,
>California), and they reported that Jerry West and Elgin Baylor were talking
>TRADE!!!!!  They reported that the Lakers are looking to trade Sam Perkins and
>A.C Green to the CLippers for....Danny Manning and Ken Norman.  They,KMEN, 
>seemed to think that the trade is virtually a done deal.  Of course you have 
>to take this as just what it is at this point...a rumor.  
>
>Personally, I'm not quite sure how I feel about it yet.  I would rather have
>Manning than Perkins because he is younger, and I feel he is a little more 
>versatile, and is definately quicker.  But Green for Norman...with Norman,
>we'll get more scoring, but we will lose some on the boards.
>
>
>Can anybody else state their opinions???
>
>
>
>-Rob
>
>p.s.  Really, this is NOT a joke.



	I don't closely follow the Lakers and Clippers, and don't know their
rosters as well, but if you want an outside opinion, it sounds like a big
steal for the Lakers. They get a All-Star quality player in Manning, and
a very good player in Norman, for a very good player in Perkins and a good
player in Green. Since greatness (All-Stardom) is a commodity in short supply,
I have to think the Lakers are getting a much better deal. Norman himself 
might be a much better (higher scoring anyway) player with more time - he could
be a starter for many quality teams at small forward. The Laker duo is
better defensively, but still.... in Manning you're getting a guy Pat Riley
called the "closest thing to Magic Johnson in this league," a guy who can
pass and make the big play. If it weren't for the Clippers possibly having to
dump Manning, I'd say Green/Perkins might not be enough for Manning *alone*,
with Perkins at 32 years of age, Green 29, and Manning only 26 (Norman at 28.)
No doubt fans of those two teams can shed more light on their comparative
value, but that's how it seems to one outside observer here in the Northwest.



					David L. Yee
				email to:davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu
From: stan@cad628.intel.com (Stephen Tan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Chris Jackson
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:44:36 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation,  Design Technology

Are you guys sure that Chris Jackson is in the SLAM DUNK contest?
I find this hard to believe, not to mention quite hilarious.

I thought CJ might be invited to the 3pt shoot out but
never to the Dunk contest. He's not know to be a good leaper,
and he's only 6'1".

Steve
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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: Orlando Magic Free Agents
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:32:47 GMT

In article <C19Gt2.IBF@hpchase.rose.hp.com> bruceh@mothra.rose.hp.com (Bruce Hendler) writes:
>Anyone know a list of the free agents, both restricted and unrestricted at
>the end of this season.


For the Orlando Magic:

Nick Anderson's contract expires at the end of this year, but negotiations for
an extension are already underway; he'll sign before the end of the year.

Brian Williams has the option to declare himself a free-agent at the end of the
season.  I'd be surprised if he did.

Litterial Green, Donald Royal, Tom Tolbert and Steve Kerr all have one-year
deals with the club.

Tom@Orlando
From: cs161fir@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Slam Dunk Contestants
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:22:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan19.080538.2592@inland.com> bloom@inland.com writes:
>The NBA didn't want Hodges to compete for 1 of 2 reasons:
>1) He's no longer in the NBA.
>2) Craig has "embarassed" the NBA by being publicly outspoken on 
>   political matters.  Craig chided some of the NBA stars for not 
>   giving enough back to the black community.
>
>Reason #1 is the official explanation from the NBA.  It doesn't 
>make much sense since it was violated just last year with 
>Magic in the All-Star game.  Can you say double standard?

I'm not sure it's really a double standard, since Magic was in fact
under contract with an NBA team at the time, albeit IR.

Now, I'm not saying Hodges shouldn't be allowed to compete--
personally, I believe anybody who can shoot well the three well
enough ought to be allowed to compete, even if they've never played
pro ball (although I might disallow NCAA athletes until they have
completed their eligibility).  But I don't think Magic's appearance
in last year's All-* game is really relevant to the discussion.

Tony
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From: grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: Ben's Trivia
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Sasquatch, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:54:37 GMT



byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau) writes:
>>Who was the first ABA player to jump to the NBA?
>>What memorable event did he cause in 1968, about 8 years ahead of its time?

>His college was the University of Detroit.

[grabbing coins off backboard, shattering backboard deleted]

OK, how about Spencer Haywood?  He's the only player from the University
of Detroit that I can recall who had any noteworthiness in pro basketball.

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From: davidme@tekig5.pen.tek.com (David R Meadors)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BLAZER SEX SCANDAL
Summary: as the world turns ..........
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:49:25 GMT

> 
 STuff about being bad for the sport correct but deleted for bandwidth
 incorrect stuff about Blazers Jazz deleted also for fairness of reporting
> were to turn ugly. 
> 	That's the news for now.	
> 
> Jeff Jonsson
> 
 I certainly hope there is nothing to this story either, It does no-one
 any good ....
 AS to not liking my beloved blazers I ain't so keen on the jazz but thats
 what is great about this group you can debate these things....
 not stupid jokes like play by play analysis and best penetrators etc.
 anyway while the part about the Jazz and Blazers was wrong on your part
 (smile) I agree with the rest 


					 dave



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From: bmoore@sunfish.austin.ibm.com (Bryan Moore)
Subject: Re: blatent bad reffing
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:58:56 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

>In article <C1F441.5CK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (I Spike - Therefore I Am) writes:
>
>>on the ensuing play,
>>Jordan is knifing across the lane, gets TRIPPED by Robinson, falls while 
>>throwing up a shot, and NO FOUL IS CALLED.  because of the nature of the shot
>>and the all-game-long illegal defense of the spurs, a player supposedly-off-
>>the-ball blockes the shot and the Spurs get possession.
>
>This, of course, is bullshit.  Jordan didn't contact anyone - that was
>his problem.  He went into the lane looking for contact and trying to
>draw the foul, he dind't get any, took a terrible shot, and fell over.
.
.
.
.

>--
>Harry Koehnemann			Arizona State University
>koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu		Computer Science Department

On a side note, I was at this game and I didn't think the officiating
was any better or worse than average. What continually ticks me off
about the pro game is the amount of travelling allowed. There was one
play in the fourth quarter where Pippen must have taken 2 steps and
2 hops to the point where it was soooo  blatent, and the refs just
ignored it. On a side note to my side note, I also think Pippen
is greatly over-rated. He was virtually a no-show in this game, except
for the two "steals" at the end of the game which one was clearly a foul
and the other was borderline.
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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: BLAZER SEX SCANDAL
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:27:15 GMT


>jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:

>>The local news stations in Salt Lake City are reporting tonight that some 
>>Portland Trailblazers have been connected with the sexual abuse of some 
>>local teenage girls in their hotel during their recent stay here. They didnt 
>>say which team members were involved, only that there is an investigation 
>>going on.

Okay, here's the story. Some trailblazers picked up some teenage girls at a 
local mall and took them back to their room with the express purpose of 
having sex with them. The girls probably lied about their age. 
One news station says that the sex may have been consenual, but the other 
has a more plausible story, which is, that there was an allegation of rape, 
and attempted rape. 
	The three girls involved are sixteen, sixteen and fifteen. The 
players who have been mentioned in connection with the police report are 
sketchy, but the one player in all reports is Jerome Kersey. Others include 
Terry Porter, Tracey Murray, "Clyde," "Cliff," and one "Danny or Dave" 
Apparently this took place in room 1204 of the Marriott hotel, registered to 
Jerome Kersey.
	The girls in question were picked up Sunday morning by the police 
for shoplifting, and somehow it came out where they had spent the night. 
Then one of the girls alleged rape, and thus started the police klaxons. 
	Tonight one of the girls father's came on T.V. and said that he 
doesn't plan to press charges because his daughter had told him that the sex 
was consensual, and the age of consent in Utah is 16.
	However this isn't the end of the story. The charge by the girls in 
a police interview was rape, which is a criminal charge. The father has no 
say in whether or not rape charges are filed. Especially in the case of the 
fifteen year old, who may, or may not, have been involved in the sex.
	The other question that the police want to have answered is whether 
or not the girls were drinking beer, which if they were, would constitute a 
Contributing to the delinquency of a minor charge.

	Somehow I think this is all going to boil down to nothing. The girls 
were just being groupies, and if they did consent, and the fifteen year-old 
wasn't involved then there was no criminal act. All the players are guilty 
of is being incredibly fucking stupid for taking the word of a few giggly 
teenagers that they were 18 years old.
	I'm a Jazz fan and don't particularly like the Trailblazers, but I 
don't want to see this kind of a thing bring them down. I think it 
would hurt the NBA, and the upcoming all-star game too much if this 
were to turn ugly. 
	That's the news for now.	


Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library Data Control, University of Utah.
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