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From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: SURF and more SURF
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:40:47 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <140@erfsys01.ca.boeing.com> crp5754@erfsys01.ca.boeing.com (chris payne) writes:
>In article <1jesqcINN445@overload.lbl.gov> njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis) writes:
>[Discription of excellent session regretfully deleted]
>>Going back to Steamer Lane this morning for
>>the finals. Someone's gotta watch.
>>
>Someone's gotta report too!  I guess you're appointed.  I know we're not
>that into the Pro side of things around here but it would be nice to know
>what's happening, yeah?
>
>No surf stories to report up here.  Been rather tied up with our new baby!
>Aaron Michael Payne took the big drop on Sat Dec 12.  Anyone know where I
>can get a 19 3/4 inch wetsuit? :)
>

Not much to report from me either.  Been too caught up in work.  I did 
get my new 8'6" gun a little while back though.  It's around 19" wide at
the belly, 9" in the nose, somewhere around 9.5" and 10" in the tail, and 
I think about 3" thick in the gut.  I haven't really measured it that good
yet but it sure does look MEAN!  

We have had alot of nasty weather here lately though.  We had a couple of 
snows, a few nights with temps. into the teens (Fahrenheit), some massive
rainfall and high winds.  Wednesday morning we had some raging winds that
took alot of trees and power lines.  They even shut down work.  But there
were no traffic lights in my area so it was next to impossible to go anywhere
the taffic was so bad.  The ferries shut down.  They shut down work cause 
there was no power here and I still don't have power at my house.

Well hopefully I can get a good surf next week.  I think I deserve it.
I know there has been good surf the last few weeks cause I've heard of 
a few places been "ALL TIME".  Oh well I can't be there everytime it 
gets good.




Soon To Surf Again,

(if it weren't for my girlfriend I would have gone insane by now)

John H. Lake
From: cyberoid@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Bodysurfing clubs...still in vogue?
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:49:19 GMT
Organization: WORLDESIGN, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu


Back in the prehistorical 1960s, I belonged to the Manhattan Beach
(California) Bodysurfing Club.  We bodysurfed in organized contests
against the Gillis Beach Bodysurfing Club (Playa del Rey, California),
the Newport Beach Bodysurfing Club, and a group assembled from around
Huntington Beach and San Clemente.

Are similar clubs still extant?  Also, if anyone remembers those
Golden Oldies, or was a member, please get in touch:  my fondest
memories are of my beachbum days, with lots of wine, women, and Wedge.

Bob Jacobson
(now in cold, wet,
 and grey Seattle)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: esi001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Dicky-Jim)
Subject: Re: Bummin' at 38F (3C)
Organization: COVENTRY UNIVERSITY , Coventry , UK.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:51:20 GMT

In article <29776@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:

>The .gif files over the wave_list have been an evil tease these days....
>KEEP EM COMING
>   O
>   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833
>   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil
>  /     David Taylor Model Basin
>   \___________________________
>			     \\


Could someone send me instructions on how to get these .gif piccies , I'm
in need of something to cheer up this screen while dreaming of the surf !!


-- 
                 RICH.                  **      It was dumb, 
       ( esi001@cck.cov.ac.uk )         **      It was obvious,
                                        **      It was short.
  He's not normal ...... Thank God !    **      WE LOVED IT.!  Stetler & Waldorf
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From: leif@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Leif Eric Johnson)
Subject: Re: Board Snappage!
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:18:24 GMT

In a previous article johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake) writes:
>In a previous article mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>>
>>Don't bail on the board!  You can glass it back together.  I've seen
>>people do it at Mundaca, Spain where boards get broken all of the time
>>and replacements are way too exspensive.  Strip off the old glass around
>>the break, laminate the board together with strong glue, then glass over
>>the break with extra-strong glass.  You'll be amazed at how nice it
>>can turn out -- if you do it right.
>>
>
>Also something that helps the board keep it's strength is a trick that
>that my buddy Al who owns The Surf Shop up here taught me, is to take 
>a couple of popsicle sticks and put them on either side of stringer at the 
>break (buried into the foam) and then re-glass it (instant super stringer).
>
>(Brother) John H. Lake
>

Hey Bra,
    So the burning question now:  What kind of really stong glue do you use
that wont melt the foam?  You guys have about got me convinced to snap this
puppy back together, but I want to make sure I'm not wasting my time.  I've
tried some things on boards before (one particularly humiliating attempt to
re-laminate a badly de-lammed deck comes to mind) and ended up with a leaden
torpedo by the time I was done adding resin.    Anyway, I'd think that regular
epoxy might melt the foam, any thoughts?

-Leif
 leif@unixhub.slac.stanford
 (ya mon, Brother Johnson)
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Board Snappage!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 17:31:07 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <1993Jan26.064824.2644@microsoft.com>, johnlake@microsoft.com writes:
> [.. board repair deleted..]
> 
> On a board breaking note, one of my friends and his wife just got from 
> 5 months in Mexico and one of the last places he surfed was Puerto Escondido
> and he surfed it for a couple of days at a solid 18 foot faces.  He said 
> that the barrels were sooooooooo big that he would just pull in and be able
> to look around inside cause the lip was throwing out so far.  He's got 
> loads of pictures from the whole trip.  Too bad I don't have a scanner
> yet!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (Brother) John H. Lake

   The 'Last Blast' in the most recent Surfer has a sequence from a 
Mexican beach break which has large barrels to say the least. Does anybody
know which beach break they are talking about?
                
john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248
                   M/S 7U-553 Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division
                   2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: any ding repair tips?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:23:17 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <1k1lr9INN7aa@overload.lbl.gov>, njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.194748.23379@nas.nasa.gov> leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
> >
> >So this leads me in a roundabout way to my question of the day.  Are 
> >there any special tips for patching up my board.  I've already gotten 
> >some practice from patching my green behemoth but I wasn't too concerned 
> >with the quality of the result there.  
> 
> [..deleted..]
> My board looks great even though it was badly smashed. 
> People look at it and say "YOU did that?" See, even girls can do it!

   Hmm. my patches always look kind of like a kindergartener did it.
   A *girl* kindergartener, :-).

   Do you use a power sander? somebody told me those orbital sanders
   are the trick.
> 
> Nancy
> High and Dry for 4 mo daze

   Too bad. lyle lovett and his large waves are visiting santa cruz this
   wednesday.
                
john m. airey      airey@asd.sgi.com  (415) 390-5248
                   M/S 7U-553 Silicon Graphics, Advanced Graphics Division
                   2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039  
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: carrie@wam.umd.edu (Carrie Lynn Leonard)
Subject: Re: Surfers for Envir. Action
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:22:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.011042.7807@microsoft.com> johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake) writes:
>In article <30002@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>>Does anyone have an address or phone # for SURFERS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
>>ACTION?  I am currently a member of the Surfrider Foundation and have
>>not been to happy with them. I sent them my membership money, and haven't
>>heard much since. I  received one newsletter months ago but since then
>>nada.
>>
>Ah yes, very interesting that you mention the Surfrider Foundation.
>
>There is a very interesting article in the new SURFER or SURFING (not sure
>which one off hand) about some problems with this particular organizations.
>I've only had a chance to skim over it, but it don't sound like all peaches
>and cream.
>
Could you post the problems with the organization?  It's just that all my
experiences with Surfrider have been great.  They did a wonderful litigation
job against the pulp mills polluting the surf in Humboldt county.  After
working first hand in the stuff (doing water quality samples through the Ocean
MOnitoring Project, Telonicher Marine Lab, Humboldt State), I was really glad
to see some action taken against the companies.  But recently, I have also
had some problems with the org. (lax on keeping members informed, resting on
their one victory in Humboldt, etc.)  I'd hate to see a good org. (founded by
a Humboldt alumni) go to waste once it's got too big, which I fear may be
happening.  Thanks for any info.

Carrie

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From: leif@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Leif Eric Johnson)
Subject: Board Snappage!
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:08:43 GMT

Hey all,
   Pretty fair sized swell yesterday and today here (SF peninsula, No. Cal.)
I'm working mid-shifts now, and slept through it all day yesterday (Wednesday),
but made it out "today" (Thursday).  I'm guessing the swell was a solid 8 feet.
Alot of local breaks were too out of control, and it was too foggy to see out
to Mavericks (but I bet it was going of!)   A couple of friends wanted to get
together for a session this morning, and given the size we decided on the
most protected break around: Linda Mar, "Pathetica" (Pacifica).  We went out
near the south end, Boathouse, where sets were head high and mostly closing
out.  Could see Pedro Point (the outside point south of Linda Mar) was going
off!  Several guys visible ripping it up out there.  The two guys I was with
are less experienced, so the point wasn't even an option, but after a bit we
decided to walk up to the north end, "Round House".  Made it out during a lull
and caught one hairy right.  Only one of the other guys made it out to the
lineup, and after the right I was unable to punch through the continuous set
waves that started coming in to make it back out into the lineup.  My friend
kept getting pulled north toward this big jutting rock, and eventually sketched
a huge one in.
   We noticed a semi-consistant clean right breaking between sets, just north
of Sewer Pump House, near the middle of the beach.  It took some effort to
stay in the "lineup" for the right, as the sets were breaking a bit more out-
side, and completely cleaning up the area where the right was breaking between
sets.  I did manage to catch two really nice rights there, lining up perfectly
and breaking toward a semi-channel.  On the second one I was right in the 
opening of the tube for quite a ways.  Anyway after paddling out to the lineup
again, I had to pump to get past a set I saw coming.  This one behemoth seemed
to have a bead on me though, and I ended up in the pit right in front of
a 10ft monster closeout.  The lip was heading right for my back, so I decided
to bail, shoving my board to the side and diving deep.  I actually wasn't 
very surprised when I came up to see no board in sight, but hoped my leash
had just broken.   When a 3 ft section of the tail floated to the surface, 
still attached to my leash, my worst fears were confirmed.  I could then see
the front half of my board bouncing along toward shore in the whitewater.
   The real drag was, that was my newest board, purchased in October ('92) I
think.  A 6'4" Campbell Bonzer design, almost no dings, full front and tail
astro-deck patches.  I'm seriously bummed!  So, anyone know if I can at least
somehow remove and re-use what's left of the astro-deck? 

-Leif

Disclaimer:  Stanford, SLAC, and the DOE don't even surf!  So these opinions
             must be mine.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: roger@creek.eel.ufl.edu (Roger Ross)
Subject:  FL blues
Organization: UF EE Department
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:54:48 GMT


What a bummer!

	The waves are pumping right now on the FL east coast.  The wind
went hard offshore.  My friend from Daytona called me this morning to
tell me about overhead barrels that I was missing.  I'm sure south FL
has wonderful overhead, warm water(enough to make anyone in the US drool
right now) barreling lefts as I type.  
	The only problem is that I had to get a job to support myself in
school this semester, and I have to work all week. NO SURFING for me.  Why
me?  Why not someone else?
	With the strong offshore, the swell will die quickly, so if you have
any chance, hit it now, don't wait for the weekend.

roger
From: clp@megadon.uucp (Chuck L. Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: What is the secret?
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:18:49 GMT
Organization: Software Flange Company

Even though I've been trying to surf for over a year now,
I still completely suck at paddling out.  Once out there,
it is totally easy for me to snag a mild wave and leisurely pitch
and yaw my way in front of the curling wave. Just the way I like it.

But what is the secret to paddling out?  I often get completely
pulverized trying to go out in what I think is a mild set of waves.
I'm not a complete weenie when it comes to swimming, but you might
think that from watching me.  I hear of these places where waves are
breaking 1/2 mile offshore.  To me this seems completely absurd.

The reverse could also be a problem.  Has anyone ever heard of
someone getting stuck outside with a powerful wind blowing them
out to sea?  That would really suck.

clp
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: ccwj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Wayne Jennings)
Subject: Re: Polluted Beaches in Australia
Organization: James Cook University
Distribution:  world
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 05:22:34 GMT

In article <3519@peking.gdwb.oz.au> pthomas@gdwb.oz.au (Peter Thomas) writes:
>ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:
>
>>The only treatment at the sewage plant is filtration to take out the
>>chunky bits, but condoms etc still get through and float around like
>>jelly fish.
>>This visible pollution is generally only evident at the southern end of the
>>beach , near the outlet.
>
>In his article on 13th Beach, Lud has a couple of points wrong about Geelong's
>sewage treatment plant at Black Rock.
>
>First, nothing larger than a pinhead can get through the screens in the plant.
>These screens have been inspected by numerous citizens and community groups and
>they agree that the screening process is excellent.  But, Lud is quite correct
>when he says that is is only a screening process. 


Is this ALWAYS true or am I incorrect in saying that there have been ocurrences
of raw sewerage getting through when the screening process breaks down or when
the system is overloaded.

Wayne Jennings
Computer Centre
James Cook University
TOWNSVILLE QUEENSLAND
(ex Torquay resident. Miss the swell but not the water temperature)
-- 
Computer Centre
James Cook University
Queensland 4811 AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61 77 814649
From: enbody@ss33.cps.msu.edu (Dr Richard Enbody)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Dewey Weber
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:10:23 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ss33.cps.msu.edu

In article <727391355.AA00481@calcom.socal.com>, Larry.Fletcher@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Larry Fletcher) writes:
|> (c)1992 Easy Reader Newspaper
|> 
|> Surfing hermosa..
|> by Mike Purpus
|> 

|> to rejuvenate the business. Nat Young provided the shot of adrenaline in
|> the shape of a surfboard called the Ski. As long as Nat was around things
|> flowed. 


I bought a Weber Ski back in 1968 or 69 if I remember correctly.
It is at my parents in South Carolina, and I still use it 
occasionally -- every couple of years.  The fin broke in half 
so it is interesting, but I still really like the board.

A Polish friend of mine called it my Polish board: Weberski.  :-)

-rich
enbody@cps.msu.edu
From: erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: WHERE'S THE SURFERS?
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:41:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com (Erich Lim) 

-> I'm still here.  Not much for surf here in the gulf.  The winter
-> weather is not favorable for wave generation.
->
-> Wish I were back home.  Haliewa  would be pumping.

  Yeah, the gulf is pretty dead now.  WIsh I could be in Haliewa too!


Erich.
  
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From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Polluted Beaches in Australia
Date: 22 Jan 1993 10:50:40 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au

In article <3519@peking.gdwb.oz.au> pthomas@gdwb.oz.au (Peter Thomas) writes:
>ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:
>
>>The only treatment at the sewage plant is filtration to take out the
>>chunky bits, but condoms etc still get through and float around like
>>jelly fish.
>>This visible pollution is generally only evident at the southern end of the
>>beach , near the outlet.
>
>In his article on 13th Beach, Lud has a couple of points wrong about Geelong's
>sewage treatment plant at Black Rock.
>
>First, nothing larger than a pinhead can get through the screens in the plant.
>These screens have been inspected by numerous citizens and community groups and
>they agree that the screening process is excellent.  But, Lud is quite correct
>when he says that is is only a screening process. 
>

Lines Deleted ........

>-- 
>Peter Thomas			Public Relations Branch
>Email: pthomas@gdwb.vic.gov.au	Geelong & District Water Board
>Phone: +61 52 262506		61-67 Ryrie St Geelong
>Fax   +61 52 218236		Victoria 3220 Australia



My humblest apologies for providing incorrect information :-(, I should
have checked the current situation instead of answering off the cuff,
and regurgitating  my out of date experiences of surfing at the
southern end of 13th beach.


Perhaps you could keep us posted on the results of the surfactant
study and any other relavent info ?.


Cheer's, keep surfing,
Lud.
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: any ding repair tips?
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:58:21 GMT
Reply-To: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov

In article <30158@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>sand paper. I went down to wet sanding with 600 grit paper. After that,
>I used auto rubbing compound (the red stuff) and a damp rag. To get
>a good glossy polished look, I then used polishing compound...

I tried using toothpaste in the final wet sand. Read about it in
a book by Nat Young "Surfing Fundamentals", guess that's in lieu of
polishing compound. The book includes a chapter on repairing the stick.

I agree with hand sanding with 100 grit. The power sander takes too much
off too fast. 

Nancy
Surfs with Rocks

P.S. The owner of Santa Cruz'n, Pat Farley sez, just stuff wax in it
and go surfing! Yeah, if I had a store full of boards, I might not
be so attached to the one I've got....
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From: tabloun@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS ALFRED BLOUNT)
Subject: surfrider foundation
Originator: tabloun@c00449-313mn.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tabloun@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS ALFRED BLOUNT)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:08:00 GMT


   I'll tell you what pisses me off about the Surfrider Fooundation's 
problems.  The article in Surfer magazine said that the lawyer working for
them had a contract to a specific amount of money a year and a bonus amount
of money should any big settlements come through.  Well, a big settlement
did come through and what did the lawyer do?  Got greedy and demanded more.
Surfrider made the mistake of even thinking about giving him extra $$.  Leave
it to a lawyer to break a contract and screw things up.  Surfrider should
give him his salary and bonus and then find a new lawyer and set up a new 
contract.  I can't beleive such a fine organization as this might fall apart
over some stupid greedy lawyer.  Dump him and get on with the plan!!!!!!!!!
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