HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: afv@allison.noname (Frans Volschenk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE POLLS !!
Keywords: LOADS OF POLLS  !
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:06:03 GMT
Reply-To: afv@allison.noname
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


Just a short one:  Now that the Election is over and done with,
where are all the POLLS ?  (That also includes all the Polls
of Polls of Polls)

Is it possible that the only shares falling today are those
of companies associated with running polls in the U.K. ?

As I heard on BBC/ITV on Wed. the outcome had to
be somewhat different. 

" AND AS A POLL REVEALED TODAY ..."

The polls all seemed to be out by .....,

not 1 %  not 2 % not 3 % not 4 % not 5 % not 6 %
not 7 % ...

Lets just call it a lot.

 Regards,

  = 8 -} )
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:6271 alt.politics.british:12
From: agc@bnr.ca (Alan Carter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.politics.british
Subject: Re: Rampant paranoia (was Voting slips: what happens to them,DANGER!)
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:05:03 GMT
Organization: BNR-Europe-Limited, Maidenhead, England

In article <1992Apr13.105928.17359@cas.org>, jac61@cas.org writes:
|> 
|> 	Any intelligent subversive grouping is going to tell its members to
|> 	dissociate itself in public from them and even vote against them.
|> 	Remember the Prime case?  Working for the Soviets at GCHQ and strongly
|> 	anti-union?

I was living in Cheltenham at the time, and Geoffrey Prime ran the cheapest
taxi firm in town. Self and pals were regularly run home by him from the
pub round the corner from the firm, so the details stuck in my mind. 

The REALLY important thing about the Prime case was that he flew off to 
Bulgaria every year to chat to his KGB boss, and be handed loads of money,
but he was not caught. Neither were the 'security services' alerted by the
fact that a top translator with loads of secrets goes off to... drive a taxi.
Of course, when Mrs. Prime found his Pervert's Cardex File of 2000 little
girls, and reported him to the bobbies well, the game was up.

We hear a lot about how sinister and stealthy the 'security services' can be
when tapping the phones of openly campaigning members of CND and other people
who are damned by these officers' rather personal view of Political Correctness 
(see Spycatcher!) but I really don't think they are very good at catching 
spies. Prime of course, had a PV (Positive Vet).

|> 	Don't blame me, I voted Labour.
      Don't blame me, I voted Liberal (in South Worcs - Nabarro's old turf).
                              ========
                              57% - The people have spoken.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alan Carter. My views are subjective - virtual reality is inside my skull.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: grx1166@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: PLEASE HELP FIND_URGENT!
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:48:19 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

Please!

It is extremely Urgent to find Mr.Abu Taher( Bar. at Law ).He is a Bangladeshi
in UK Might be In LONDON.
Please help finding his contact Phone No.

My address:
HAQ
2255 UNIVERSITY HILLS #201
TOLEDO, OHIO-43606,USA
E-MAIL:GRX1166@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU
PHONE AREA CODE 419- 536-7322(H)
		419-537-4027(W)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:6164 soc.culture.celtic:3512
From: cbenson@bazooka.Altos.COM (Christopher Benson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Is Holohan a dweeb?
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:19:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: bazooka.179
Reply-To: cbenson@bazooka.UUCP (Christopher Benson)
Followup-To: soc.culture.british
Organization: AMB Research Labs, Sunnyvale, CA.


Mr Holohan, please post a "fit-to-comment" resume' (curriculum vitae)
because until you do, you remain a Mr Hologram.

Chris Benson (posting from home).
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:6679 alt.society.civil-liberty:3525
From: livesey@solntze.esd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.society.civil-liberty
Subject: Re: British Bill: of Rights? of Goods?
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:57:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: zola.jl0k5b8
Organization: sgi

In article <RJC.92Apr16212414@brodie.cstr.ed.ac.uk>, rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:
|> 
|> I was thinking of that when I posted. I was also think of the UK
|> blasphemy laws. 

Splendid, let's think of those.   How many times in the last twenty 
years have they been applied, and when was the last time?

The last time I can think of was when a Gay magazine published a
poem suggesting that Jesus was gay, and was busted for it.   Perfectly
silly, in my view.

Since then, in the US, we have had the US Supreme Counrt rule that
there isn't even a right to *be* gay, and indeed in several states
it's still illegal.

Tell me again about Constitutional protection.   I'm a bit deaf 
today.

jon.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:6136 alt.politics.british:2
From: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Newsgroups: uk.politics,soc.culture.british,alt.politics.british
Subject: Re: Simple message
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:01:29 GMT
Reply-To: anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker)
Organization: Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.

In article <1992Apr6.071030.29606@rtf.bt.co.uk>, traub@rtf.bt.co.uk
(Michael Traub) writes:

>This is an invalid assumption. If person B earns ten times as much as
>person A do you seriously think person B will consume ten times as much???

	Easily.  [Assuming that you aren't talking only about quantity of
food.]  If my income were multiplied by a factor of 10, I'm sure that I
would spend *more* than 10 times as much on holidays, cars, hi-fi and video
equipment, restaurant meals, ....  In addition, I would employ at least 10
times as many maids, gardeners*, ....  Come to think of it, this would be
such a boost to the economy that I wouldn't mind trying the experiment.

	I'm also pretty sure that I spend at least 10 times as much on
these things as the vast majority of people whose income is only 1/10
as much as mine.  For a more reasonable factor, substitute 2 or 3 for
10 in the above -- the conclusions still hold.

>Person B will probably be spending the extra money on a mortgage, something
>which has no VAT levied on it.

	He or she may well be spending a lot more on a mortgage, but only
the interest on 30K is tax-free, so the chances are that person B is
paying more than 10 times as much tax on this spending.  [You're right
in that it isn't actually VAT, of course.]

------
* This point is not meant to be flippant.  We *do* employ a cleaning
lady for a short time each week, and gardeners for a short time each
few weeks.  If we were wealthy, and had a much larger house and garden,
these times would certainly expand to match.  Conversely, in hard times,
we would have to do it ourselves, and cleaning ladies and gardeners
would presumably find employment much harder to come by.

-- 
Andy Walker, Maths Dept., Nott'm Univ., UK.
anw@maths.nott.ac.uk
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:6435 alt.flame:6798
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.flame
Subject: Re: dweeb?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:08:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <8956@scott.ed.ac.uk> iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski) writes:
>In article <y8vj0fr.sue@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
><In article <1992Apr12.084902.27493@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
><>In article <amvjca#.sue@netcom.com>, sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
><><In article <1992Apr12.002852.21905@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
><><
><>[About residents of the US:]
><><>Two or three of the quarter-billion (or
><><>quarter-milliard :-)) of us eschew the vile orthographic revisionism of
><><>Noah Webster.
>
>There are also a number of "you" who eschew some of his queer
>"reforms", so the exact number probably isn't integer.

Oh, exactly.  My left arm, for example, insists on spelling certain
words with that silly extra "u".  And my pancreas has a tendency
to substitute esses for zeds.  

><><I hope you are correct in stating that there are only two or three of you.
>
>I hope so, too.  This would relieve the British (and the British-style
>spellers) from the obligation to feel guilty when they make ironic
>generalisations about the Yankees.

Hmmm, wouldn't have thought anyone would have enough time to be
bigoted over stupidities *and* feel guilty about it at the same
time.  The world is so full of wonders.

>
><><Sickening suck-up Anglophilic Yankees are grotesque
><><aberrations, and should be kicked in the head at regular intervals.
>
>Yes.  Not suppose I find you sickening and grotesque.  May I have your head?

Certainly, but you'll have to stop by here to pick it up.
From: james@wrs.com (James Moore)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Driving in US with UK license
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:29:49 GMT
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.

cbenson@bazooka.Altos.COM (Christopher Benson) writes:

>In California (and most of the States) it is necessary to obtain a
>local license to prove that you exist.

Sort of.  There's also something called a California Identification Card,
which is only an ID card, but looks almost exactly like a driver's
license and can be used in all the same (non-automotive) ways.  Of
course, this being California, they're pretty rare - most people have
driver's licenses.

--
James Moore                                 | james@wrs.com
Wind River Systems                          | Alameda, California
      "Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half meant
				nothing at all"
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: KING OF ENGLAND
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:34:56 GMT
	<1992Apr03.110309.28484@x.co.uk>
	<1992Apr5.071632.14062@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
	<1992Apr5.105810.4223@newcastle.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk's message of 5 Apr 92 10:58:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.105810.4223@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:

      not to be confused with William the conqueror (or sometimes called 
      William the offspring of unwed parents  if you are polite).

Or "William the Waster" by Alasdair Gray in his new book, in memory of the
fact that (AG says) he ordered the death of everyone in the north of England
and the total destruction of the countryside there.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)

		
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: dweeb?
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:08:24 GMT

In article <NICKH.92Apr13123607@VOILA.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU>, nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) writes:
<
<Read a dictionary. I suggest the OED.

One other thing:  Don't swear by the _OED_.  See what it has to say about the
"correct" pronunciation of `key'.

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
Shao2shan1 sheng1 de tai4yang2 yong3 bu2 luo4!
From: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:06:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Is Holohan a dweeb?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british


In soc.culture.british, holohan@mark.enet.dec.com (Mark Holohan) writes:

> (Lord Lloyd) writes:
> |>Ah, I wonder is there an american equivalent of "complete pillock"
> |>Now that would surely fit Mr Holohan perfectly.
> |>
> |>-Jonathan "Cymru am Byth" Lloyd

>   There is, we call them Lloyd

	Hey, he's funny too. 


	arf
From: dpl@aber.ac.uk (David Philip Langstaff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: News from Ambridge (was Re: Gas stoves)
Summary: You asked for it...
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:29:46 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <7535@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> colin@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>Can I add my lone cry to this appeal? 
>	- Are Sid and Kathy still in flagrante? 

Sid & Kathy have sorted things out and are back together, although we haven't
heard much from them as most of the time has been taken up with Jennifer
(afternoon bonking) Aldridge's little family fun & games, oh and also 
Cameron-Fraser putting Elizabeth Archer up the stick.(Bastard)

>	- Has Mr. Archer's pig (Freda?) popped her clogs? 
Freda was only recently sent down the lane, (bacon butties all round), David
managed to persuade Phil that she was getting too old and that it would make
sense.

>	- Is Ruth still sexually discriminated against by her hubby?
Ruth is shaping up well, she's made a few assertive claims to the farm
and has ensured that TGWD (The Great White Dairymaid) is consulted in farm
decisions. Ruth is also getting on famously with Usha Gupta, Mark's new
partner in the law firm. The two of them make a team with a real eye for
mischief.

>	- Has Mrs. Snell been the victim of a serial killer yet?
Sadly, no.
>

-- 
Dave Langstaff | Janet:dpl@uk.ac.aber.cs | Disclaimer: All my own work. 
Any views expressed are those of the author alone. | Phone:(0970)622838 
After-life, After-shave, don't hold with any of it, bleugh! - Sir Henry 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sp@mirabeau.osf.fr (Simon Patience)
Subject: Re: MAJOR WINS MAJORITY!!!
Reply-To: sp@mirabeau.osf.fr (Simon Patience)
Organization: OSF Research Institute
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:43:28 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.142640.15659@newcastle.ac.uk>,
J.M.Spencer@newcastle.ac.uk (Jonathan Spencer) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr13.073340.16687@osf.org> sp@mirabeau.osf.fr (Simon
Patience) writes:
> >>This is the thing that pisses me off most about the Tories. For someone
> >>on twice average earnings (and above) Britain has the highest income tax
> >>rate in Europe. So much for incentives for entrepreneurs.
> 
> What are the figures for each country, have you got them?

Yipes, I did have them, I will try and look them out.

Simon.

  Simon Patience
  Open Software Foundation			Phone: +33-76-63-48-72
  Research Institute				FAX:   +33-76-51-05-32
  2 Avenue De Vignate				Email: sp@gr.osf.org
  38610 Gieres, France				       uunet!gr.osf.org!sp
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,uk.politics
Subject: Re: election 92: RESULTS OF FASCIST PARTY
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:14:49 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) wrote:
> [the BNP] obtained over a thousand votes in both of the two
> constituencies (Bow & Poplar, Bethnal Green & Stepney) which
> make up Tower Hamlets borough, an area where there has been a
> lot of recent immigration from Bangladesh.

"Recent immigrants" meaning people who arrived before Thatcher became party
leader or their children - there has been hardly any immigration from the
Indian subcontinent in the last 15 years.

"Blaming the victim" again.  Immigrants are NOT the cause of fascism.

-- 
--  Jack Campin    room G092, Computing Science Department, Glasgow University,
17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
INTERNET: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk or via nsfnet-relay.ac.uk    FAX: 041 330 4913
BANG!net: via mcsun and uknet     BITNET: via UKACRL    UUCP: jack@glasgow.uucp
From: adam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Adam Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: MAJOR WINS MAJORITY!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:10:23 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Apr16.015102.1563@leland.Stanford.EDU> rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft) writes:
:
:Regardless of where you take your snapshot, it is incontrovertable that
:Thatcher turned around a situation that most people in the world had
:given up as hopeless.
:
	After Thatcher, we now have higher taxation and lower investment.
The reason that it sounds better to you (far away) is that the rich shout
louder than the poor.
From: RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET (Aengus Lawlor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Great Britain as a malfunctioning democracy
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:26:44 GMT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <12APR199219114424@zeus.tamu.edu>, pac9897@zeus.tamu.edu (THEY
SENTENCED ME TO 5 MORE YEARS) says:
>
>After a little bit of backbiting from a few people because I insinuated that
>democracy has failed in Britain, I thought I had better spell out the case
>for such an insinuation.
>
>[stuff deleted]
>What Great Britain (and notice they have PR in Northern Ireland because
>the Westminster parties are fully aware that PR tends toward fairer
>representation) has now is not real democracy, it is an elected dictatorship
>that relies on 42% of voters - the majority of who live in the home counties
>to force their policies on everyone else.
Northern Ireland only uses PR for European elections. For Parliamentary
elections, Northern Ireland still uses the same 'first past the post'
system as the rest of the UK. As a example of the imbalances this produces,
in 1987, the DUP (Ian Paisleys party) got 12% of the overall vote, and had
3 MPs. The SDLP had 21% of the vote and also got 3 MPs, Sinn Fein got 11%
of the vote and got 1 seat, and the Alliance party got 10%, and no seats.
The Official Unionists got 9 seats for 36% of the vote.

With 48% of the popular vote, the two main unionist partys got 12 of 17
seats. Jim Kilfedder of the Ulster Popular Unionist Party is the other
NI MP.

I haven't voting figures yet, but the overall representation hasn't changed
in NI, except that Gerry Adams of Sinn Fein lost his seat to the SDLP.
>
>Philip A. Carney                On Exchange from Lancaster University,
>Texas A&M University, TX        England.
Aengus
--
RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
From: ssouth@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Steve South)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Where in the world is Hardy's Wessex?
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:27:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpldsla.28590007
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA

/ hpldsla:soc.culture.british / francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir) /  5:03 pm  Apr  9, 1992 /
>At least let's get this one right...

>	BUDMOUTH == BUDleigh-salterton + exMOUTH

> <stuff deleted>...
>						Francis Muir

>francis@sep.stanford.edu
>----------

WRONG!

As I stated in an earlier post, Budmouth == Weymouth.  Even if no maps were
provided in some editions of the books it is quite clear that Budmouth is based
on Weymouth. For example, in the delightful Under The Greenwood Tree, Dick
Dewey rides back from Budmouth to Mellstock with Fancy Day in an afternoon.
Since Mellstock is undoubtedly based on Hardy's home at Bockhampton, this would
have been impossible if Budmouth were Budleigh Salterton + Exmouth. I believe
also that mention is made that Budmouth is very close to the Isle of Slingers
which is in reality the Isle of Portland. Francis, you may have taken a couple
of vacations in the area, I lived in the county for twelve years, and my father
was such a Hardy fan that some of it rubbed off on me, so I took an interest.

Although Hardy's names very often resembled the real names, sometimes they 
were very different. For example:

 Similar:
                Weymouth    == Budmouth
                Marnhull    == Marlott 
                Shaftesbury == Shaston

 Different:     
                Wareham     == Anglebury
                Dorchester  == Casterbridge


Unfortunately I do not have any of my sources handy.... They are either in
storage in England, or stuck on a dockside in Rotterdam courtesy of Gl*b*l
Int*rn*t**n*l, the well known bunch of mindless jerks who'll be first against
the wall when the revolution comes.

If I can locate any of my sources, then I will post further evidence.

Steve South.
------------
From: traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub)
Newsgroups: uk.politics,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Simple message
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:43:41 GMT
Organization: BT Customer Systems, Brighton, UK

In article <1992Apr9.191536.477@maths.nott.ac.uk> anw@maths.nott.ac.uk (Dr A. N. Walker) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.080008.15420@rtf.bt.co.uk> traub@rtf.bt.co.uk(Michael Traub) writes:
>>This is wrong. This glibly assumes person A bought a house less than 30,000
>>pounds, impossible in most of the country now.
>
>	Well, it is certainly *possible* around Nottingham currently, and
>I guess in most of the UK outside London, its commuter belt, and other
>fashionable places.  But in any case, it only assumes that A currently has
>a no more than 30K mortgage, which must apply to *most* people on reasonable
>incomes outside London who haven't moved in the last few years.  It applies
>to me, and I am on well above the UK median salary and have a perfectly
>satisfactory house.
>
What do you mean buy a few years? I would guess you would need a property
at least 10 years old to be under 30k.

>>>	 [Michael seemed to be claiming that B probably spends more than
>>>90% of his disposable income on his mortgage, which doesn't seem very
>>>likely to me.
>>
>>Nor would it seem likely to me, but then you just made that bit up.
>>Please don't attribute something to me which I did not say.
>
>	In article <1992Apr6.071030.29606@rtf.bt.co.uk>, you wrote, while
>trying to prove that B, who earns 10 times as much as A, consumes and spends
>little more, that:
>
>  >Person B will probably be spending the extra money on a mortgage, something
>  >which has no VAT levied on it.
>
>Since B's "extra money" is 90% of his income, you perhaps see where your
>apparent assertion comes from.  What *did* you mean?
>
Did I say *all* his extra money? You made a quantum leap in your
argument at that point.

>>Just in case you really are, people on low incomes spend a far higher
>>proportion of their salary on mortgages than people on higher incomes.
>>This is fact, if you don't believe me check with your building society.
>
>	Roughly 20% of my household's disposable income goes into the
>maws of my bank;  I am neither on a low income nor seriously rich.  I
>would suggest that anyone on a *low* income [say, <10K] who is spending
>much more than that [say, >30%] on a mortgage is badly overstretched.
>On the other hand, anyone who on a high income is spending much less
>[say, < 10%] either has a very old mortgage, or has a source of amazingly
>cheap finance, or else isn't keeping up the appearances to which most such
>people would like to become accustomed.
>
That doesn't change the facts of the matter.



-- 
Michael Traub
BT Customer Systems, Brighton Systems Centre. traub@rtf.bt.co.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: Gas stoves
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:29:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr10.173154.29402@wpi.WPI.EDU> mfriley@wpi.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley) writes:
>
>Damned if I know.   Chalk it up to the American Sweet Tooth or the
>American Inexpensive Rising and Preservative agent.    Personally, I
>never touch the stuff.   I bought my husband a very nice KitchenAid
>mixer so he can make bread at home.
>

Just an aside - the USA (not "American", the Americas comprise many
nations) Sweet Tooth pales when compared to the UK Sweet Tooth.  
I believe that the country which wins the most-sugar-consumed-per-capita 
race is Scotland, followed closely by England.  

Surely you must touch the stuff on some occasions.  You'd die
otherwise.  Perhaps you were just speaking of table sugar.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada,misc.forsale,can.forsale