HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: A Better Year Ahead
Date: 24 Dec 92 04:14:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec24.041413.5475
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <BzqMMz.Dop@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:
>and while we'd *like* it
>to be "safe space" we don't have any *right* to "safe space."

Which is not an argument against taking steps to ensure that the space feels
safer than not.  Think of it like a "neighborhood watch"; arguably one does
not have the *right* to safe streets (at least this is the case de facto, if
not de jure), but one can fight to make them safe, and it is this effort and
determination which helps ensure it.  If Cramer and others want to pollute
this newsgroup, as is their "right", that does not mean that anyone here
has to accept this intrusion as normative; let them respond by exercising
their own "rights" in return.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Re: soc.motss.*
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:53:07 GMT

In article <72279@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>Tch, John.  Such a stereotypically exclusionary list you wrote.

So look who's talking.  If we want to make sure that lesbians
feel welcome, we'll have to create soc.lesbigay.birkenstock,
soc.lesbigay.rayon (for the bowling-shirted among us), 
soc.lesbigay.interlock (for the polo shirt and turtleneck-
wearing dykes), soc.lesbigay.handknit (for the earth mothers,
although one might anticipate some overlap with soc.lesbigay.
birkenstock), and so on.  
--
       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: s0gwb@exnet.co.uk (George Battrick)
Subject: Re: Coming out at work - HELP!
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:37:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.061700.15968@dvorak.amd.com> tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) writes:
>
>Well, Mark... how about putting a pink triangle in place of the "i"...
>assuming you have one on your badge.  Mine fits nice and snug in the
>square in the middle of AMD's "a" :)
>
Hmmmm.  Shortly after reading the anti-CO#2 article here which (apparently)
originated from Tim Gill, the founder and chairman of Quark, it struck
me that the "A" in the "QUARK" logo on their business cards *is* a pink
triangle.  Perhaps this is no coincidence?
From: tdober@llnl.gov (TDO)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The word 'homophobia'
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:46:44 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: llnl

In article <thecabalisdead@thecabalisdead.thecabalisdead>, mattm@apple.com
(Matthew Melmon) wrote:

[...]

> Owen is right.  'Homophobia' is a *ridiculously* over-used word
> amongst homosexuals.  A profound dislike for something is not
> indicative of *fear.*  I profoundly dislike Anderson.  I'm 
> certainly not afraid of the cow.
                              ^^^

The Pope is Catholic, bears shit in the woods, and Melmon is a misogynistic
twerp. What else is new?


> *X*


TDO (who is only posting this because it bothers me to let misogyny go
     unchallenged, not because I expect it to have any effect.)
--
#include "StdDisclaimer.h"

Pain, like time, is going to come on regardless. Question is, what glorious
moments can you win from life in addition to the pain? -- Lois McMaster
Bujold, _Barrayar_
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: soc.motss.*
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:16:52 GMT

thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>Sorry George, but I'm just so *over* motor oil and pissing contests...
>Besides, it takes a lot more talent to dance with a guy than it does
>to piss on him.

Unless you have a Prince Albert.   ;-)

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p
This signature is not Politically Correct, just differently worded!
From: 00daspeakman@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman, Ball State University)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: soc.motss.*
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:37:30 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Dec21.215922.12999@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) 
writes:

ME: >>

> 
>>WE need: *.politics, *.activism, *.misc, *.news
> 
> I see a bias here :-)

True.  Sorry for the egocentricity.  *blush*

> 
>>I need the network of gay and lesbian people as a resource in my
>>activist duties.
> 
> soc.motss.info. Separate the information from the rest of the chatter.

Good call.  I like the *.info idea.

David
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Long-term relationships...success stories please...
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:04:40 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniblab.asd.sgi.com

In article <1992Dec30.181553.15689@fuug.fi> an3360@anon.penet.fi writes:
>Here's a tangent to this thread: does anyone have examples of successful 
>"conventional" marriages (by that I simply mean involving a man and a woman, 
>no prejudices intended or implied) in which both partners are gay and have 
>got together for the sake of appearances and/or having kids?  Or how
>about successful marriages in which one or both partners is bi and has 
>been allowed to carry on with a gay relationship outside the marriage?


WARNING!!!


DO NOT PRINT NAMES 
if you know people who got married 
for immigration purposes!!!


pauli.
From: jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Soc.Motss.*
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:00:36 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

My site seems to have junked a majority of this thread, so please excuse me
if I repeat something that has already been said in a redundant manner...

People have been talking about the group "soc.motss.coping", but some were
dissatisfied with the word "coping".

How would "soc.motss.support" do?  Unless people are obsessing on jock
straps, I think it would be pretty clear just what the group would be for,
expressing support for each other or calls for such support.  The only other
thing I can think of would be "soc.motss.peers", but that's less clear...

My two senses worth,
JOhn.

-- 
/-John A Kusters, jr.--------------------------------------------------- ______
| jkusters@ares.calpoly.edu   b0- f- w g- s-- r p++                      \    /
Silence keeps us all in darkness, We can't change things overnight;       \  /
But we can shed a little light, Be Political not Polite! -Romanovsky & Phillips
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: How did you find soc.motss?
Date: 21 Dec 1992 11:34:00 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec21.030251.29069@macc.wisc.edu> 
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <1h32j3INNi49@mizar.usc.edu>
> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
> >My first article?  Someone had misquoted a Dorothy Parker
> >quip, so I corrected it.
>
> Over a year ago and you haven't changed a bit! :-)

Honey, I haven't changed a bit in a hundred years.  At
the advanced age of 37 years and 12 days I'm still the
same smartypants boor I was when I was 20.  The things
that enthralled me then enthrall me now.  Why, I spent
yesterday afternoon watching "Funny Face" on the Family
Channel and once again found myself yearning to *be*
Kay Thompson, just as I did the first time I saw the
film a couple decades ago.  And I still intend to write 
about the Kay Thompson tape I received from a delightful, 
and extremely patient, correspondent.

Arne
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
Date: 29 Dec 1992 12:27:56 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec29.141645.11478@tc.cornell.edu> 
shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:

[ ... ]
> I think that what we're really seeing is that while misogyny
> is a problem that should be addressed in due time but isn't
> something to get overly exercised about, man-hating is a
> heinous crime of major proportions that must be decried
> loudly and publicly whenever we see even a hint of it.

Above and beyond what any individual man might think about 
women, misogyny is systemic.  Man-hating is not.  In any case,
if any man were to write about women -- all women, regardless 
of their political affiliations, ethnicities, or sexualities -- 
using rhetoric even slightly like that employed by Andrea Dworkin 
in her screeds against men, he would be dismissed by *everyone* 
as a crank or worse. 

Arne
From: kkenny@gems.vcu.edu (Karen Kenny aka Mel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: A Taste of Culture
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:30:35 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Virginia

> So, how about it?  Is there any food that truly represents
> queer couture?  Does anyone have a favorite "dish?"
> 

Tuna medley?  [come on all you Meg&Cris fans]

How bout yourself dipped in honey?  Or do you have to 
be lesbian for that to work?

Karen 
+======================================================+
                                         Karen S. Kenny
"Of course, you silly things!"      kkenny@gems.vcu.edu
                                  Medical College of VA                      
                                           Richmond, VA
+======================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: tcarlin@athena.mit.edu (Thomas B Carlin)
Subject: Minds Change *or* How to Mislead With Numbers
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:13:04 GMT

============================================
Andy Gerber writes:

>>A new Denver Post/News 4 Poll shows there's a backlash in
>>Colorado to the growing national boycott of the state over
>>Amendment 2, the citizen intiative that barred laws
>>protecting gays.

>>People are more angry than ahamed, and they don't think a
>>repeal effort would succeed.

(1)  This is very much the EXACT same reaction the Arizona had
	to the boycott of that state.  Surprise, surprise,
	they changed their minds.
	     ^^^^^^^
(2)  Hunger is a great motivator.

============================================

Boycott CO, and Ignore the Auntie Toms!!!


============================================

Tom - "I ain't nobody's Aunt" - Carlin
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Freudenschade?
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 19:55:25 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1hq6p4INNbm4@fido.asd.sgi.com> <1992Dec29.194816.14035@PacBell.COM>

Rod Williams asks:
>[...]
>Do you suppose that's freudenschade?

No. Freudenschade would be Sigmund sitting under a tree on a
beautiful summer's day -- undoubtedly smoking a cigar and 
stroking his bushy beard as he thought.

 
() Only the suppressed word is dangerous.
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: d000dlphi@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Militant Homosexuals Stage Coup
Date: 25 Dec 92 06:40:19 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


The following article is meant to he humorous. If you don't find humor in it,
then please skip this article. Flaming me will result in self-satisfaction
for both of us. You vent steem, I realize that I've irritated someone.

___________________cut here_________________________________

		Militant Homosexuals, The LesBiGay Way

Tired of waiting for the military to drop it's ban on gay and lesbian people?

Tired of waiting for Bill Clinton to be inaugerated so he can form his foot-
dragging think tank on the subject?

Here's the answer: The Lesbigay Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard,
PC Corps, Fashion Police, etc.

We'll protect this country and the new world order. Who else besides US has
been spending hundreds of volunteer hours preaching the values of
protection and safe behavior.

We'll embrace the 2nd Amendment, take arms, form a private militia and sieze
control of the gun lobby and rename the NRA the Lesbigay RA. We'll replace
bullets with caps that make *SNAP* sounds -- a major fashion statement
of the mid 1990s.

We'll serve with honor, courage, decency, fairness, and compassion.
AND we'll do it with STYLE!

----------------------------------
David Speakman,
a.k.a. Major Homo Speakman,
       Lesbigay Army

_______________________________end random bitchy article_________________

Visualize Whirled Peas.

Never, NEVER let me stay away from the family on Christmas again. It
makes me depressed and I post this kind of stuff.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Flits in the Rye
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:26:17 GMT

mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) wrote: 
->It kills me, it really does, how goddam smart everyone here is.
->...  It kills me.  It really does.  ... It kills me. ...
->It kills me. .... it kills me.  ... it still kills me...
->... since Dorothy Parker kills me.  She really does. ...

so just die already, ok?

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
# "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.
From: csabatier@nola.win.net (Conrad J. Sabatier)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Clayton's signature
Date: 30 Dec 1992 17:44:15 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: csabatier@nola.win.net (Conrad J. Sabatier)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:26.45.12

>Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!

Exactly right.  Opinions.  Not to be confused with fact.

>C++ is to C, as lung cancer is to lung.

As Clayton Cramer is to soc.motss.

Conrad


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Conrad J. Sabatier      Internet:csabatier@nola.win.net
P.O. Box 641303               
Kenner, LA  70064-1303  Windows is to DOS as Color is to B&W, as
(504) 568-9202          Automatic is to Standard, as CD is to vinyl,
                        as ... (your analogy here)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Small grooming question
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:49:24 GMT
Reply-To: dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: tattoo.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Dec29.011524.23560@netcom.com>, foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye) writes:

 
|> Well, actually, a Wahl razor works very well as long as you find
|> someone to do the honors. I trim my Ken's beard every couple of
|> weeks, and the Wahl attachments (Numbers 1 through 4) regulate
|> the length of the hair cut. A '1' will remove nearly all hair
|> but spares the skin.

Using no guard works much better.  However, it does leave you a long
way from being shiny bald.


FWA
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "cures" for homosexuality
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:48:39 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec22.174915.14562@midway.uchicago.edu>
  <1992Dec22.211916.3812@psych.toronto.edu>
  <1992Dec23.132036.17120@thinkage.on.ca>

Ken Dykes writes:
>Brian Jarvis writes:
>>Like so many worth-while projects, the benefit is likely in the effort.
>>If nothing else, it'll provide me an opportunity to kidnap Cliff while
>>you're busy.
>
>get in line buster! :-)

I have dibs on the space immediately preceeding or following
Ken.  This way, I could be amused while waiting.  ;-{)##]

>oh, but i forget about cliff's feelings about this,
>  cliff,
>   would you prefer to be kidnapped singley, or en-group ?-)

I'm hoping for en-group.  To quote from BRit25thC, "Think of the
*permutations*!"

 
() Nobody believes the official spokesman ... but everybody
() trusts an unidentified source.
()      -- Ron Nesen, 1977
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why not cure homosexuality?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 16:47:25 GMT
Organization: Colorado Springs IT Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: fajita19.cs.itc.hp.com

scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
> Even the notion 
> of "I use to be homosexual but now I'm heterosexual" is so ridiculously 
> oversimplified as to expose a genuine naivete.  I'm sorry the Kinsey 
> middle range ruins everything for those who think in terms of "cures".

No need to be sorry.  And no need to assume that anyone who asks a 
question about the Kinsey middle-range thinks in terms of 'cures', 
or thinks that people should be cured.  I even went to the point 
of stating that in my post.  What isn't answered is, how can you 
ever validate the claim of someone who claims to have been homosexual
(not bisexual, or 'in the middle') who then claims to have switched 
to being hetrosexual.  It seems any such thing is just dismissed 
as 'well, he was kinsey-middle'.  Sort of a catch-22.  

Walter
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Melmon Method (was Dworkin)
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:39:55 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <168C5CC0E.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu>, DLM wrote:
> 
> In article <mattm-221292104543@mcmelmon.apple.com>
> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>  
>    <fem-bashing, flame-baiting rhetoric deleted)

Tell me, bashed-fem and bait-taker, wherein is the flaw in
the reasoning:

  Dworkin:  All sex is rape

  Moi:  Sex is required for the continuation of the species.  The
        continuation of the species is a good thing.  All sex
        is rape.  Rape is required for the continuation of the
        species.  Ergo,

        Per Dworkin, rape is a good thing.

I do *not* consider rape to be a good thing.  I consider Dworkin's
statement to be the height of recent feminist stupidity.  The
feministas have been tripping over themselves to come up with
these inane - yet 'controversial' - gimicks.  My favorite: 

  A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.

There's at least two hidden jewels in that one...

Dworkin is a nut.  If she was taken seriously by *anyone* - it
would be a set-back to her sex.  Not that all that many are
probably to eager to claim her...

And then:
 
> >heterosexual men would be well advised to at least
> >consider the fringe benefits of homosexuality...)
>  
> Aha! The *true* purpose of your attack on women!

"My attack on *women*"  Beautiful.  But the PC checkmate only works
on people who give a shit, dear.  Dworkin does not equal All
Woman-Kind.  An attack on her can only be portrayed as an attack
on All Woman-Kind by the lunatic fringe of the feminist movement,
who count for squat - and scant more.

*X*
From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Poinsettias
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:57:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.BzzM7I.D2I
Organization: Open Communications Forum

What I want to know is, what do other people do with these tacky
Poinsettias after the holidays are over?  My husband bought about
a dozen of the damned things, and they never have the good manners to
die promptly at 9 am on Jan. 2.  My problem is, I can't kill *any*
houseplant without feeling extremely guilty, but I don't want the
things around as they're highly poisonous to cats (hmmm...maybe
I should give them to Jack Hamilton).  In the past I've just 
planted them in the snow outside and figured if gawd wanted 'em 
to live then she'd take care of them.

It has since become apparent that gawd doesn't like Poinsettias
any more than I do.
-- 
Brent Capps                          |        
bcapps@agora.rain.com (gay stuff)    | (B4) h t w- c+ g+ k? s-: e++ r-
bcapps@atlastele.com (telecom stuff) |
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Austin, TX joins Colo. Boycott
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:42:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Dec29.164245.16936
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <fl124=_@rpi.edu> buckmr@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) writes:
>
>>In article <RHAYDEN.92Dec24110720@hqsun2.oracle.com> rhayden@oracle.com (Ronald Hayden) writes:
>>>Wow!  Is there something different about Austin from the rest of
>>>Texas?
>
>>Ron, Austin has had laws supporting equal rights of access for g/l
>>people as far back as '74 (I believe).  Moreover, it is the home to a
>>lots of hi-tech companies... most of which lead the rest in
>>recognizing that diversity in the workforce is what has made America
>>so great.  And, last but not least, Austin was home to some very hip
>>hippies... they ran the good ol' boys out of town :)
>
>Are you saying hat AUSTIN, TEXAS has had a gay rights ordinance on the
>books since 1974??
>
>A broader question, do all 9 cities that are boycotting Colorado have
>gay rights ordinances? I would presume YES.
>

I don't see how Austin could have an equal rights ordinance for g/l
because of Texas law 26.01....but it is a real hip place.  Austin was
one of the first cities in the nation to ban discrimination in housing
and on the jobs in the case of AIDS....

Don't think Texas when you think about Austin....It is sort of like
a Shangrila in the middle of the whole of the Bible belt, which starts
just on the north fringes of town......

Bil Snodgrass III


>-- 
>RON BUCKMIRE
>The Lyrics Transcription Project: Cocteau Twins Division, section 319
>11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735
>vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
From: waveland@carson.u.washington.edu (Eric Holeman)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Attention Skiers Boycotting Colorado
Date: 30 Dec 1992 10:32:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <1992Dec30.054928.20095@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com
 (Bob Donahue) writes:

>	All well and good --- I fail to see why then, that so
>many Coloradoans and Colorado businesses are spending more time

And money;--those full-page New York Times ads aren't cheap...

>telling us why we shouldn't penalize them for CO:2 than they
>are screaming to the power that be to have it removed. 

Amen.  Sorry guys; shoulda spent the money and effort before the 
election when it would've done some good.  

>	The fact is, that no matter what an individual town/county
>did on 11/3, the net effect was that more people voted for bigotry
>that voted against it.  Even in such supposedly enlightened
>places such as Aspen and Boulder there were certainly enough
>people who voted YES on 2, that I could spin in a circle, pissing,
>and hit more than one.  While standing in line in McDonalds, the
>odds are that either the person in front of me or in back of me
>voted to take away my rights.

Yep.  To put it another way, If Denver had voted 100% against 
2, it would've failed.    


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: psp@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (P.S. Powledge)
Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Lincroft, NJ
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:31:43 GMT


In article <mattm-221292104543@mcmelmon.apple.com>, mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> (of course, feminism has *nothing* to do with men, so I suppose
> the reaction of men is of no concern. but perhaps, some day,
> all these barking bimbos will realize that if *everything* men
> do is wrong, then *nothing* they do is wrong, and we can get 
> back to a more relaxed interaction between the sexes.  until
> such time, heterosexual men would be well advised to at least
> consider the fringe benefits of homosexuality...)

You know, I think my Cabal Decoder ring is plenty hosed. No matter how
many times I input this secret message that's been cleverly disguised 
as e-spittle, I just can't seem to get anything reasonable out. Fess up, 
gang -- who changed the key and forgot to tell the rest of us?
-- 
||| Polly Powledge
||| p.s.powledge@att.com			<- unchanged
||| att!pegasus!psp or psp@pegasus.att.com	<- new
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