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From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser)
Subject: Re: USA Directory (Princeton)
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Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:33:01 GMT

> PRINCETON University SEDS  / PLANETARY SOCIETY
> 315 West College
> Princeton University
> Princeton, NJ 08544
>         email - space@phoenix.princeton.edu
>         officers -      Carlos Niderstrasser
>                         carlos@phoenix.princeton.edu
>                         (last update - 11/10/92 - Carlos)

Notice that the name is _ONLY_:

Princeton Planetary Society

We are a chapter of both NSS and SEDS, and as such avoid having either's name  
as part of ours.  In addition mail addressed to PU SEDS rarely  reaches us,  
since that is not our official student organization name.

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| Carlos G. Niederstrasser        |   It is difficult to say what   |
| Princeton Planetary Society     | is impossible; for the dream of |
|                                 | yesterday, is the hope of today |
|                                 |   and the reality of tomorrow   |
| carlosn@phoenix.princeton.edu   |---------------------------------|
| space@phoenix.princeton.edu     |    Ad Astra per Ardua Nostra    |
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| Carlos G. Niederstrasser        |   It is difficult to say what   |
| Princeton Planetary Society     | is impossible; for the dream of |
|                                 | yesterday, is the hope of today |
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:54:13 EST
From:         knoedler@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      nomination-Kevin Knoedler

name:           Kevin Knoedler

address:        450 Memorial Dr.
                Cambridge, MA 02139

phone:          (617) 225-9417

email:          knoedler@athena.mit.edu

school:         MIT

graduation:     June 1994

SEDS experience:
                president MITSEDS
                publicity coordinator SEDS 91


Essay: Where do you see SEDS in five years?  How do you see yourself
        contributing to this future?

        SEDS most important goal is producing leaders for the future.
The students of today will go on to be the leaders of tomorrow.  Both
in industry and in government we need people who know the benefits of
space and who are capable of leading others to their vision.
        To produce the aerospace leaders of tomorrow, we need people.
This means starting new chapters and getting people excited and
involved.
        Finally, in addition to producing the leaders of tomorrow, we
need to persuade the public today.  A large portion of the public feels
that space is a self-serving cause.  It has provided them with no benefits
and can not help them in their future.  We need to show them that this is
not true.  If we do not do this, all of our efforts will be doomed.

        In five years I see SEDS a long ways towards achieving these
goals.  We should have five times as many members and three times
as many chapters.  Each chapter would have enough activities so that
any member could take a large and active role if they so desire.  SEDS
should be thought of as the one space organization for students.
Having, "local SEDS officer" on your resume should be something
that companies look for as a mark of quality.
        I realize that this is a lot to ask for over five years, but we
can do it.  My contribution towards these goals would consist of three
parts.  First, I would ensure that any student who wants to start a SEDS
chapter gets the information and support to do so.  Next, I would
continue to develop space related projects to keep students interested
and motivated.  Finally, I would improve the communications between
the various chapters and headquarters.  This is my vision and contribution
to the future of SEDS.


                                        Kevin Knoedler
                                        knoedler@athena.mit.edu
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:14:54 EST
From:         Amy Marie Houts <houts@PSS.FIT.EDU>
Subject:      SEDS Birthday

SEDS Birthday Alert!  SEDS Birthday Alert!  Happy Birthday to you,
Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday DENNIS WINGO, Happy Birthday
to you!  :^)

WE LOVE YOU DENNIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO SEDSAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO DENNIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO SEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^)

Send your Birthday Greetings to Dennis at:

wingo%cspara.decnet@fedex.msfc.nasa.gov


Happy Birthday, DENNIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From

the SEDS BIRTHDAY BOMBER! HeHeHe...:^)
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:47:28 PST
From:         Irwin Kenneth Horowitz <irwin%CitJulie.BITNET@VM.USC.EDU>
Subject:      get Kathy Morse on the board ASAP!
              20-Nov-1992

In light of the fact that, unless there are others at MIT interested in
joining the National Board, I move that we have Kathy Morse join the
board without any delay.  She has apparently been working on the status
of the National treasury, according to Kevin Knoedler, and we should
not delay in offering her an official board position so that she may
continue to fulfill the duties of the National Treasurer.
                                        Ad Astra,
                                        Irwin Horowitz
                                        SEDS-USA Assistant Treasurer
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Subject: Re: FREE-ENERGY TECHNOLOGY For Spacecraft/Colonies
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:19:00 GMT
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The funny thing about giving free speech to everyone is that ultimately we will
each find at least one person that we vehemently disagree with, find offensive,
dislikeable, or scarey.  But the minute you start to limit the speech of one
individual, even if everyone agrees that said individual is an obnoxious fruit-
cake, you are limiting the speech of everyone in society, including, potentiall
y, yourself.  I think that's too high a cost.  If idiots like this guy have
nothing better to do with their time (i.e. totally lacking a life), well, what
damage does it really do to us?
Sharon
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:28:01 EST
From:         Moreley Nelles <mnelles@LYNX.DAC.NORTHEASTERN.EDU>
Subject:      Business Plan Update

Just to do a quick update with regard to the business plan.  A
comprehensive overview should be ready within in the next week, to 12
days.  If anyone has any input, please forward it to me soon, (this is
 a reminder to some of you).

To give a brief overview now, the general plan is to have SEDS focus on
3 basic areas, which we are directed to do by our constitution, and to expand
these areas into more viable, long term operations.  Specifically, these areas
are:

1)  Communications, both interchapter and international.  This would
also encompass chapter expansion, AND chapter retention.
2)  Education, in the direct form for High School students
(presentations/curriculum development), and leaning more towards projects/events
type activities for undergraduates, including the establishment of a
project/event locating/incubation mechanism.  Also proposed is a leadership
training program.  (these are not fixed groups, but rather general
guidelines...if someone thinks that curriculum can be developed for
undergraduate or graduate courses...let's here about it, and conversely
if a high school wants to do a Gas Can Project or a Conference, let them.
Also, projects and events should be interpreted in the broadest manner...from
SEDSat and the annual conference, to bringing in a single individual for a
Pizza lunch, to putting on an art exhibit to...)
3)  Financial Board to aid in financing these activities.  With the
SpacePort Florida Proposal in mind, this is going require an annual output of
$6-8,000 per year initially, and that will need to grow.

This plan is meant to help SEDS grow, and to allow it to become a useful
mechanism to more people, which is ultimately how SEDS will mature.

Throughout, the general philosophy has been that SEDS is a place where
students can learn (and not just about space, but also about how organizations
work, and how to work within them).

Finally, if anyone has ideas that they would like to contribute, now is
the time.  This plan, when presented in its final form in January (and to a
lesser degree,in the review I give next week), will need examination and
tweening for sure, but it is designed to be ready to implement following
the February meeting.  An extensive rewrite after its release will take time.
Therefore get your ideas in NOW, when it will be easy to incorporate them.

Thanks for taking time to read this, and please respond, either to the
"L" or to me directly
     mnelles@lynx.northeastern.edu
Your comments will be greatly appreciated!   Looking forward to hearing
from all of you soon (EVERYONE's comments are sought, whether you are a board
member, alumni, chapter president, or just someone who reads the "L" who has no
other SEDS involvement or anything in between).  It's not too soon to send in
your ideas, nor is it too late!

Drew
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:49:47 PST
From:         Jeffrey Alan Foust <jafoust@CCO.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: nomination for national treasurer
              at Nov 20, 92 8:52 pm

        A new ballot will be posted on Monday.  I'm waiting until then to
give a couple people who have indicated to me an interest to run to make
up their minds and post their intentions by then.  The new ballot will
supercede the current ballot (the one with only Carlos' name on it), with a
revised deadline.

Ad astra,
Jeff
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:38:45 CST
From:         wingo%7977.span@FEDEX.MSFC.NASA.GOV
Subject:      NOVA mail out

I mailed 37 issues of the NOVA today. Hope everyone is pleased.

Note: We are still under the same strictures as other non-profit organizations
in that unless we mail 200 copies we pay higher rates. The rate for 1.5 oz
which is the weight of this NOVA is 52c per copy.

Dennis, University of Alabama in Huntsville
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:51:39 EST
From:         knoedler@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      nomination for national treasurer

Hello,

        For those of you who are curious, the essay that just came out
was part of Kathleen Morse's nomination for the position of SEDS
national treasurer.  She has started to get the national finances
back in to order and is a member of MITSEDS.  She will be graduating
in June of 1996.  Let her know if you have any questions.


                                Kevin Knoedler
                                knoedler@athena.mit.edu
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:21:06 PST
From:         Jeffrey Alan Foust <jafoust@CCO.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject:      NASA Town Meeting Information Available via FTP

        I've uploaded some information on the upcoming NASA Town Meetings to
the SEDS FTP site at hoshi.colorado.edu (directory /pub/SEDS).  The files are:

        upcoming-town-mtgs: a text file with a list of the dates, times, and
                            locations of upcoming town meetings
        town-mtg-schedule: an standard agenda for the town meeting
        prereg-form: a text version of the town meeting preregistration form
        prereg-form.ps: a PostScript version of the preregistration form

Pass this information on to any interested parties.  My thanks to Richard
Johnson for maintaining the FTP site and promptly placing the files into
the appropriate directory!

Ad astra,

Jeff
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From: rdale@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert P Dale)
Subject: Sed-L vs Sedsnews
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 05:04:07 GMT

As a new reader of the USENET SEDS newsgroups, I wonder what the
difference between SEDS-L and SEDSNEWS is, because by monitoring
the discussions I'm not aware of much.

Rob
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Robert P. Dale                          <>      rdale@attserv.atms.purdue.edu
University of Toledo                    <>      74010.302@compuserve.com
Meteorology/Emergency Services          <>      N8GSK@K9IU.IN.USA.NOAM
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:16:56 PST
From:         Jeffrey Alan Foust <jafoust@CCO.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject:      Revised SEDS-USA National Board Ballot

        Okay, after that spurt of nominations (it never rains, but it pours...)
here is a revised ballot.  Constitutionally, we have to let Kate, Kevin and
Bill on the board since they come from headquarters or regions underrepresented
or unrepresented on the board.  That kind of makes the point of the election
moot, but constitutionally we have to have an election.  (I'm making all
these 'constitutionally' references because the SEDS-USA constitution is
something we really have to start following closely if we are to obtain and
maintain our 501(c)3 status.)  To make this as short and painless as possible,
the deadline for ballots to be returned is 11:59pm PST Tuesday, 1 December.
E-mail your ballots to Lisa (alweigel@athena.mit.edu) and me
(jafoust@cco.caltech.edu) by the deadline.  This ballot supercedes the
previous ballot posted, so all votes cast under that ballot are now considered
to be null and void.  Enjoy!

Ad astra,

Jeff

======CUT=HERE==================CUT=HERE======================CUT=HERE======

                        SEDS-USA National Executive Board

                                Special Election

Vote for the following candidates by prefernce; rank the candidates from
one to four, with one going to the chapter's first choice, etc.  Submit your
ballots to the National Co-Chairs, Lisa Weigel and Jeff Foust, by 11:59pm
PST 1 December 1992.


SEDS-USA National Executive Board Candidates

_____ William Blum, Purdue SEDS

_____ Kevin Knoedler, MIT SEDS

_____ Kathleen Morse, MIT SEDS

_____ Carlos G. Niederstrasser, Princeton Planetary Society

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:52:23 EDT
From:         Bob Summersgill <XE605C@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SEDS Alumni Directory

Please note:  I am not compiling or maintaining the alumni directory.
I gave all the information that I have, and that ended my role with
that list.  I will be happy to offer advice about how to use that list
and how to improve its value to SEDS, but I will not be responsible for
the list, its use or function.

Hey, I'm not a student, and should not be running important SEDS operations.


- Bob Summersgill         |  If we can put a man on the moon, why can't
  XE605C @ GWUVM.GWU.EDU  |  we put a man on the moon? -- Bill Engfer
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:24:13 EDT
From:         Bob Summersgill <XE605C@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: FREE-ENERGY TECHNOLOGY For Spacecraft/Colonies

Sharon has stated that limiting the free speach of one person, limits
all right for all of us.

Since I started this latest round, please let me say that I fully agree.
I do not in any way wish for McElwaine to be stopped from writing,
speaking, or otherwise expressing his views and opinions.  However,
I don't care to listen.  As Richard Johnson has pointed out, it is
the list recipients that pay to read their mail, and even if they
did not, it is not unreasonable to ask to be removed from a mailing
list.  Officers of SEDS have previously asked McElwaine not to post
here, and he should have the courtesy to respect that request.

An individual may ask McElwaine to send his posts directly to them.  He
further may set up his own list or news group.  But I, and SEDS
officers, have told him that SEDS-L is an inappropiate forum for his
ideas.

Alas, even this posting, has become sufficiently unrelated to SEDS-L
not to belong here.  If anyone would care to respond, or read responses,
please contact me privately and not on SEDS-L.


- Bob Summersgill         |  If we can put a man on the moon, why can't
  XE605C @ GWUVM.GWU.EDU  |  we put a man on the moon? -- Bill Engfer
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:22:02 PST
From:         Jeffrey Alan Foust <jafoust@CCO.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject:      Board Election

        Today Mark Richardson of UCLA SEDS stepped down from the SEDS-USA
National Executive Board.  With his resignation, we have a total of three
vacant board positions.  Since nominations for the original two board positions
have opened up, over one month ago, only one nomination form has been received.
At the t-con Sunday, it was agreed to hold an election to fill the board
positions.  A ballot is included below.  Voting is to do be done by CHAPTERS
(not board members) and the ballots e-mailed to the co-chairs
(alweigel@athena.mit.edu, jafoust@cco.caltech.edu).  The deadline for ballots to
be returned is 11:59pm PST Monday 30 November.

Ad astra per a full *and* active board,

Jeff

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                    SEDS-USA National Executive Board
                             Election Ballot

Chapter Name:______________________________       Date:________________

Place an 'X' by the candidate your are voing for

_____ Carlos G. Niederstrasser, Princeton Planetary Society

_____ write in:

Submit the ballots by e-mail to Lisa Weigel (alweigel@athena.mit.edu) and Jeff
Foust (jafoust@cco.caltech.edu) by 11:59pm PST 30 November 1992.

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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:24:08 -0600
From:         JRL8574@VENUS.TAMU.EDU
Subject:      Re: SEDS-L vs. SEDSNEWS

SEDS-L is the news group for communication between SEDS members from chapters
all over the world.

SEDSNEWS is for the dissemination of space news and other events.

At least this is the way that the two listservers have been used in the past,
and this has seemed to work just fine.

Robb.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:52:59 EST
From:         Moreley Nelles <mnelles@LYNX.DAC.NORTHEASTERN.EDU>
Subject:      nomination for national treasurer

I second (or third or forth  :) ) the nomination.

Jeff and Lisa
  For the sake of parliamentary procedures, and pursuant to Article 2,
Section 6 of the SEDS USA National Constitution, I hereby formally
request the cochairs to distribute ballots at the first opportunity.

Thank you,

M. Drew Nelles
Member, SEDS-USA Executive Board
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:57:51 PST
From:         Jeffrey Alan Foust <jafoust@CCO.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NOVA mail out
              "wingo%7977.span@fedex.msfc.nasa.gov" at Nov 23, 92 3:38 pm

> I mailed 37 issues of the NOVA today. Hope everyone is pleased.

Thanks for the effort, Dennis!  It's greatly appreciated.

>Note: We are still under the same strictures as other non-profit organizations
>in that unless we mail 200 copies we pay higher rates. The rate for 1.5 oz
>which is the weight of this NOVA is 52c per copy.

Hmmmmm... I, at least, was under the impression that you could provide the
non-profit rates through the school even if the size was under 200.
Fifty-two cents is the standard first-class rate for up to two ounces.
We'll have to see what we can work out to lower the mailing costs of the
NOVA.

Ad astra,
Jeff
From: houts@PSS.FIT.EDU (Amy Marie Houts)
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Subject: T-con --sorry
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:16:51 GMT
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Hi!  Sorry, I'm not going to be able to make the T-con afterall.
I've been doing a little too much SEDS stuff and need to do some
school work before my two major exams tomorrow and Tuesday.  It
takes me about two hours to return from "SEDSLAND" every time I
talk to you guys, and I really can't affort to break my concentration today.
So I'm going to turn off my phone, cook up some cheap noodles (thanks
Drew for the hint), and cram until approximately 4:00 a.m..

I haven't heard anything from Spaceport Florida Authority, but I will
post as soon as I here more.  I'm going to Titusville Wednesday to see
Spaceport and also Space Camp (--- there is a chance of getting some
cheap photocopying/mailing, but I can't promise anything).

PLEASE post any questions or concerns you have about the Executive
Secretary proposal to SEDS-L or my account:

houts@pss.fit.edu

Also, I would appreciate a brief summary of topics to which you need
my opinion (I know, not that it's every worth anything, but humor me,
okay?) -(I meant "ever").  I will answer these posts no later than
Tuesday evening, when hopfully I will still be functioning.  I guess
if I could borrow some brains from some of you smart folks, I wouldn't
need to miss the T-con, but as it stands I need to get a 3.2 or I won't
be attending FIT next quarter (and this is just my first quarter).

I will send E-mail to David Bush and see if I can't find someone to
talk from Florida.  If NOT, please keep me posted.  Thanks, and sorry
for the inconvenience!

Amy
:^)
Go SEDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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