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From: meadams@crchh56.BNR.CA (Matthew Adams)
Subject: Re: Vampire Music
Reply-To: meadams@crchh56.BNR.CA (Matthew Adams)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 20:27:34 GMT

In article <1d7sogINNmf7@uwm.edu>, bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R.
Block) writes:
|>In article <1d4qjtINNla4@bigboote.WPI.EDU> rebecca@penny.WPI.EDU
(Rebecca Jean Mcfarland) writes:
|>>I don't know if someone else mentioned this and I just missed it, but....
|>>
|>>An EXCELLENT album for vampire music is Bloodletting by Concrete Blonde.
|>>(The title track is a very  good vampire song.)
|>
|>Hear, Hear!!!  Make that four cents.  ;)  I was going to mention it
|>myself, but I was sure it was destined to be brought up.
|>
|>Greg
|>
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There is also a song called "Lestat" by Shock Opera.  It may just be a
local band here in Dallas though.

Hasta,

Matt
meadams@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ferret@metaphor.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka)
Subject: Re: Aes Sedai
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:13:50 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ferret@metaphor.engin.umich.edu


In article <1dpcnkINN5fv@coral.bucknell.edu>, skelly@pleiades.bucknell.edu (sean kelly `94) writes:
> The third book in the 'Eye of the World' series is called the Shadow
> Rising.  They just keep getting better...
> -Sean
> 
	Actually, "Shadow Rising" is the _fourth_ book.
-Ken
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ag653@yfn.ysu.edu (Rob Clark)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Reply-To: ag653@yfn.ysu.edu (Rob Clark)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:36:03 GMT


In a previous article, lenny@iti.gov.sg (Lenny Lim Kiong Peng) says:

>In article <ufaustus.721002910@mcl> ufaustus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mark Bergem) writes:
>> I wounder who it was that said Vampires have to be evil?
>
>Well, there's an issue of Batman where he got turned into a vampire by a
>"good" vampire. I can't remember the issue, but its one of those one book
>
>I'm sure this is not the sole example, and there must be quite a few films
>and books on "good" vampires. Oh yes! How could I have forgotten! There's
>Vampire Princess Miyu, a Japanese cartoon (anime).

And don't forget  "Count DUCKula"!
-- 
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From: snx@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Shiva Nourpanah)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: vampires
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:07:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Keywords:
 
I was told that the legend about vampires is really a symbolism (??) of the lives
of the feudal aristocracy, who made their lives by sucking the blood of the common
people, metaphorically, through high income taxes and the like. So what is the
relevance of vampires in literature today? (Count Dracula as a Texas oil baron?)
cheers, Evie
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From: loki@netcom.com (James E Myers)
Subject: Re: Forever Knight question
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:58:02 GMT

	Nicholas killed Lacroix at the very end of the two-part pilot
episode (actually a remake of the movie 'Nick Nite').  So are you saying
that the Canadian version has made it clear that Jeanette doesn't yet know
that Nicholas killed him?

--James
From: melchar@west.darkside.com (Melchar)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:19:34 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

> I didn't think vampires were considered a separate species, at least in
> traditional European folklore (I'm not familiar with other cultures' stories,
> I'm afraid. Anyone know of a good collection of _traditional_ vampire legends
> 
> 				The Fool
> 				    ;-)

     If the product which is _now_ a vampire was _originally_ what is 
referred to as a 'human being', then they are NOT a separate species.  At 
the absolute most, they would be considered as a 'sub-species'.
     The identifier for species is an inability to breed with those of 
other species -- which is why all domestic dogs are of the same species 
(they can still interbreed:  an extreme case was the corgy male who 
mounted a Great Dane bitch & whose subsequent puppies were cute mutts).
     I suppose you could consider a thus-changed human to be 
life-challenged though.....
                                         Melchar
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: FFC's Dracula
From: Michele Carla Zugschwerdt <Jasmyne+@CMU.EDU>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:40:04 -0500 
Organization: Sophomore, Music, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I'm not going to put spoiler in the subject because i simply don't
intend to ruin this for anyone....

all i can say is...


coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool

                                  *evil grin*

Go out and see it......NOW!!!


Lady Jasmyne
From: lesher@coral.bucknell.edu (T. Lesher)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire, Vampyre, and Wooden Bullets
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:49:34 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: coral.bucknell.edu

In article <Bx92tB.3EM@cs.bham.ac.uk> ard@cs.bham.ac.uk (Antoni Diller) writes:
> [regarding "vampire" as mythical beast and "vampYre" as a (often
> deranged) human who drinks blood

>I haven't looked it up in a historiacl dictionary, but I'd be very surprised
>if that were true.  `Vampyre' is just an old-fashioned way of spelling
>`vampire'; and another term used a lot is `nosferatu'; furthermore, `the
>undead' is also used.

This is the way I have always understod it:

Middle	vampyre = strange (possibly possessed) person who drinks the
Ages-   blood of humans and to whom unknown diseases are
        of often attributed.  If real vampires exist, they
        are lumped into this category.

<vampire legend continues and gets better and better with each retelling>

Now:    Vampire is either a Lugosi-ish guy who inhabits an old castle
in the Old World, or an Ann Rice modernized version, etc.  In other
words, a Hollywood-ized vampire, widely believed to be totally
fictional.

To get away from the fictional pretenses, when someone wants to write
of a human who (for whatever reason) drinks blood, they write "vampyre".
But this may be all semantics.

It must be especially frustrating to one who really is a vamp_i_re.
Any comments from the undead out there?


-- 
		Tim Lesher, aka <lesher@bucknell.edu>
	     "The mantle of leadership is decorated with
	      concentric rings over the heart."-- anon.
From: kat@banach.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: anne rice
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:38:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: banach.wpi.edu

In article <yZ4ZTB1w165w@west.darkside.com> flyboy@west.darkside.com (Flyboy) writes:
>dose anyone know if there is, has been, will be a movie of any of the 
>vampire chronicals written by anne rice??????
>            flyboy

There's been alot of discussion on here about one.  Rumor has it that they are
in the process of making one or they are going to be making one soon.  I don't
know who has been picked to play the roles of Lestat and Louis, etc.  (Again
there's been alot of discussion here about who would be good and bad picks.)
Anyone have any definite info about the movie?

kat
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		"Was there not, from the first, more poison in
 			  your nature than in mine?" 
                           - _Rappaccini's Daughter_ 
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: jyaruss@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Werewolf newsgroup
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:06:21 GMT

Okay...
	I really would like to get a "werewolves" group going. But the problem
is that I'm new to all this stuff and the instructions of how to make a 
new newsgroup (in news.announce.newusers) is really complicated -- There's a
lot of red tape to work through. I could really use some help from someone
who is more experienced with all this. Or even someone who isn't but who
is willing to help me sort through this all.

	If you're willing to help me out -- even with just a tip -- please
respond to me directly with e-mail.

Thanks a whole big lot.

--Jordan 
jyaruss@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: cairnss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (The Ghost with the Most=)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 12:30:52 GMT

What was evil again?  Oh yeah,  I guess that, to the majority of people
vampirism would be generally considered evil, not every person mind you.
It does involve a good deal of killing and the like.
Now, to another vampire I doubt that a vampire would come across as
being too terribly evil.  

Being evil is state dependant, or some such.

It seems terrifically inane to quibble over trivialities of such
minimal proportions however.

--
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Undead, Undead Undead.
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From: ferret@metaphor.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka)
Subject: Re: Vampires-evil?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 15:40:45 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ferret@metaphor.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Nov13.162912.28948@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, dars@joplin.biosci.arizona.edu (David AR. Sanders) writes:
 If a person didn't have mitochondria, they would die.  And no, (although its
> now moot), organisms with mitochondria *can't* interbreed with organisms with
> mitochondria.

	Excuse me, Dave?  Did you leave out a word somewhere in the above statement?  If those beings _with_ the big M can't interbreed with those beings _with_ the big M, how did everything living come to be?

	Just bringingh up a small point.
	Ken
From: rgoldberg@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: to jdtucker
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:00:35 GMT
Organization: Clark University

nothing to do w/vamps, but i loved your tori amos quote.  she's a fave of mine, & not many people(esp men for some reason)seem to know/like her.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: kat@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Flame's Passion)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 04:12:17 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <Bx9DtC.EI8@inews.Intel.COM> bcohen@cad721.intel.com (Benjamin Cohen ) writes:

>Actually, interest on bank deposits rarely exceeds inflation by more
>than 2-3 %. This can result in a loss of real wealth after taxes.

Since when do vampires pay taxes?

kat
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: vampires
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:01:06 GMT

In article <BxJo02.K0J@dcs.ed.ac.uk> snx@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Shiva Nourpanah) writes:
>Keywords:
> 
>I was told that the legend about vampires is really a symbolism (??) of the lives
>of the feudal aristocracy, who made their lives by sucking the blood of the common
>people, metaphorically, through high income taxes and the like. So what is the
>relevance of vampires in literature today? (Count Dracula as a Texas oil baron?)
>cheers, Evie

Naah.  Vampires were originally seen as despicable scum of low birth.  
The seventh son of a seventh son was supposed to become one, as well as 
blasphemers et al.  Not many noblemen had that many kids.  _Dracula_ was 
different in that the vampire _wasn't_ lowborn, unlike most of the previous
examples (like Varney).  The entire history of vampires were retroactively
changed to fit in with this idea (fakelore becoming folklore, I guess).

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: das@unislc.uucp (David Shorten)
Subject: Re: vampires becoming rich
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:41:47 GMT

Brian Moffet (brianm@sco.com) wrote:
: s_wilkin@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Simon) writes:
: >Also If you suddenly realise you're a vampire and are technically immortal,
: >putting a large sum of money in a bank and letting it earn interest
: >for about 50 years while you sleep is always a good one...
: 
: Well, unfortunately, the account would have gone dormant and the money
: handed over to the government by that time, if I remember correctly.
: I believe the account is determined to be dormant (what is the word
: I am looking for!) after seven years of inactivity.
: 
Come on Brian!  How hard is it to wake up and deposit a dollar every 5 
years, the vamp is undead.. not dead.

Dave S.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:24:10 EST
From: Jon Leistiko <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Can vampires breed with humans? - Was:Re: vampires - evil?
 <BZc4TB3w165w@west.darkside.com> <BxnqMK.L72@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>

Greetings...

     The question which has caught my eye is:

     "Can vampires breed with humans (Not pseudo-vampires)?"

     The answer really depends on what you believe happens to the biological
  processes of a person when they become vampiric - I personally believe
  that a vampire _cannot_ breed with a human because the concept of a totem
  of death creating new life (or even being fertile) seems totally antithetical
  to the nature of the traditional vampire mythos (I'm talking about the
  "vampire-as-symbol-of-disease-and-death" kind of thing.).

     Just my thoughts... - Take Care - Jonathan
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: aw1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Andrew Wargo)
Subject: Re: Dhampyr/Dhampire
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:41:25 GMT

I've seen  Vampire Hunter D, and the title character is Count Dracula's
son...direct descendant of the founder of the Vampire noble houses.

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From: raven@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (System Ninja)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Other vampires?
Keywords: yarbro
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:04:00 GMT
Organization: "The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California

christ@crash.cts.com (Chris Trichel) writes:

> To Kendall: Not true... we talk about all aspects of vampirism
> fictional and real..
> 
> As for Chelsea Q Yarbro... I have tried to mention her here a 
> few times but people either haven't read her or are not entirely
> interested.. I happen to thing she portrays/presents Vampires
> much better than Anne Rice... Her whole St. Germain series is
> well put together and cohesive (flows from one to another
> without flaw) (sorry sometimes I use words improperly) and
> are filled with real history to bring here characters and stories
> more realism than Anne Rice...  I was dissapointed however
> in here werewolf book (at least I was led to believe it
> was about werewolves) 'False Dawn'. It was a yawner..
> 

Good for you!  Though I have great affection for Anne Rice's
vamp books, I do sometimes tire of hearing that so many people
seem to think that the only vamps worth talking about are 
Anne's.  Even she would not say this, I think.

I've met Quinn Yarbro; neat lady.  Her historical research
is meticulous and highly accurate, and she doesn't mind
giving advice to new horror writers.  She was president of
the Horror Writers of America for a while.

-- Raven

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Subject: Re: How do vampires become rich?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:28:31 GMT

Something that you would want to consider is the fact that vampires do 
NOT leave an image on film...just hop over to your local credit union on
the night before a double payday (A wednesday that falls on an even week
of the year that is also the last day of the month) and you can net an easy
300 grand.  And even if inflation outpaces the rate of return on a deposit,
you need to consider that a vampire's expenses are very minimal!  Everything
that can be bought is a luxury!
The ability to charm people can also come in handy...just befriend a very 
rich person and let time do the rest!  Getting money is easy when you don't
HAVE to spend it in the meantime!

                                             Glenn (wannabe thief)

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: tld@moon.base.bellcore.com (Terry Davidson)
Subject: snack.gif (0/12)
Reply-To: tld@cosmos.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:15:32 GMT

Greetings...  I've been reading this group since it started; figured
it was time to contribute an item...

snack.gif is a fairly decent painting of a Lady who was rather
hungry...  Most computer-viewable vamp[iy]re artwork I've seen
is standard stock; this one's a bit better...  enjoy!

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From: kendall@cats.ucsc.edu (Hadu-Ken)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Dhampyr/Dhampire
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:35:19 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Robert just said :
>age of the vampire count he is up against; "10,000 years old. He could be
trouble".

Yes, most Bio-Physical vampires can live forever.

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From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Subject: re:vampires becoming rich
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:47:26 GMT

Actualy, even removing the pantings from the picture it is not hard
to learn about anteques and even the advrige person will probly have
to move unless there apartment has no windows. If they are smart they
will know to look at auctions and rumage sales. I got a copy of the 
complete poetical works of Sir Walter Scott @1894 given as a gift in
1897 (this is in the cover) for $1.00 at an auction.

ELF-KIN
From: melchar@west.darkside.com (Melchar)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire, Vampyre, and Wooden Bullets
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:26:57 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

> I suggest you watch 'Subspecies'.  In this movie, a shell from a shotgun is
> filled with tiny wooden rosary beads.  Oh...if a vampire could mate with a
> sorceress or a mortal, what would the children be?
> 
> -T

                         Highly anemic!
From: JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu (Jon Leistiko)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Werewolves
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:17:27 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Greetings...
     I feel that the key statement in this posting was:
  ]>I opposed it with all my thirteen-year-old's will.
     The mind is a very powerful tool and a child entering puberty often
  feels like their body (or mind) is trying to fight against them - Please
  don't take this as a flame, I'm just offering a _possible_ solution...
     Just my thoughts...
                        - Jonathan
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:07:25 EST
From: Jon Leistiko <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: new reader

Greetings...
     9NOV92.23532387@vax.clarku.edu brought up one of my favorite "artsy"
  topics, regrettably, I feel that it might be better discussed in alt.gothic
  or some other such forum - Does anyone mind an animated discussion of the
  works of Edward Gorey? I feel a particular fondness for his art and stories.
  If no protests are posted in a day - my discussion will begin anon...
                                                          - Jonathan
Xref: sparky alt.fractals:1536 sci.fractals:333
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Newsgroups: alt.fractals,sci.fractals
Subject: One More Time: Looking For Fractint Parameters For 3-D "Lake Mandel"
Date: 14 Nov 92 22:05:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I apologize for reposting this request, but I received absolutely nothing
on my post a few days ago looking for information as to how to produce the
"Lake Mandel" 3-D fractals using Fractint.  I remember seeing the information
posted to the net a LONG time ago (which I didn't save), so I'm sure there's
somebody out there who has this information.

Much thanks, and this will be my last post for this request.  Promise.  :^)

Jon Noring

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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Kal-El is the Messiah
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:07:07 GMT
Organization: International Irony League -- Death before smileys!


Sorry, you guys are all off-target. The true Messiah is Superman.
Note that his real name is not Clark Kent, but rather Kal-El
("Swiftness of God"). He was born in exile, and has started the
ingathering (having traveled most of the way from Krypton to
Yerushalayim).

The one problem is that he seems fated to die this month in a
batle with space-villain Doomsday. This might mean that he's
actually the Moshiach ben-Yosef, not the Moshiach ben-David
(who's probably the Batman, but don't quote me on that).

I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping that I was the Messiah,
but I don't fulfill the prophecy in Isaiah 53:2: "He had no form
or beauty, that we should look at him: / No charm, that we should
find him pleasing."
-- 
Andrew M. Solovay	    "Until there was rock, you only had God."
					--Ziggy Stardust

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