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From: akenning@zeus.calpoly.edu (AK)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:05:22 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <C0Lq30.K3t@unix.portal.com> ceej@shell.portal.com (Chris Johnson) writes:
>>> 
>>> with really fuckin great visual effect. This shit could be shown on TV
>>> and no one would EVER guess it was done on a $500 computer and played
>>> from a 880k. This looks like it is from a CD ROM! spectacular! it is
>>>
>>
>>You know, we can do that on IBMs too.  We aren't all that musically 
>>inept.
>
>
>Show me an IBM setup costing $500 and I'll show you a bunch of beeps and 
>crackles.  You must be joking, right?  Affordable hardware that can produce
>awesome results has AMIGA written all over it.
>
>Ceej

Ceej, you forgot the price of the monitor :). $500 only gets you an A500.


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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:10:14 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-08-93 14:58
Quoted From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
> 
> Safe!!!  At last, someone who has heard about the Amiga music scene.
> There is some real talent out there on the amiga MOD front.
> ANd you can produce some real good kickin tunes with the Amiga too.
> 
> I have a question though regarding this.
> I worte a tune on the amiga called 'mod.Suburbass commando' 
> A nice 142 bpm techno dance track, but how the hell would i go about getting
> this onto vinyl or cd???
> I have no money to press it myself and no idea on who to contact.
> ANyone got any ideas????
> 
> 
> My friends
> 
> U4ia of Megawatts......The AMiga .MOD writer.
> 
> p.s.  Jake i sure would like to see that demo and hear those mod's you have
>       but i have no bbs modem facilty.  Can you name a few???
>

Why not output the sound from the audio jack into a tape player and 
press record?  I know it works on my IBM, and I doubt the whole idea 
of the thing is very different from the Amiga.  BTW: how do you 
suggest I get my MODs distributed electronically?  I have no access to 
an FTP site, and there aren't any boards around here that are 
strictly based around MODs (unless anybody has a (416) number for me. 
I only call two places in any case, so what would I know?).

The two MODs I have released so far (ie. in the last two weeks I've 
been into this): _Rennur (kennedy remix)_, and _Give (house mix)_.  If 
anybody has seen these anywhere, I'd really like to know.  I uploaded 
them to Rose Media (here), which means a large amount of exposure.

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From: se3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Stanley Eng)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Song ID needed from "48 Hours" show
Keywords: Slammin' Techno tune
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:44:01 GMT
Organization: Columbia University


In the recent "48 Hours" TV show focusing on LSD use,
there was a Techno song which I want to know the name
and artist of.  In the first half-hour of the show, they
talked with this girl from the U. of San Francisco, then
they followed her to an outdoor rave.  It was at this part 
of the show that they played the beginning of the song
in question.  You could see DJs on the screen cueing it up.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can provide me the name 
and artist of the song.

E-mail responses preferred.

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From: steve@sunrise.cse.fau.edu
Subject: Re: ComeUniverse becoming private
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:59:56 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

> >    ComeUniverse:sfraves@soda.Berkeley.edu,uk-rave@orbital.demon.co.uk,
> > ne-raves@silver.lcs.mit.edu,socal-raves@ucsd.edu,cyberpun@wam.umd.edu,
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu,ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu,
> > steve@sunrise.cse.fau.edu      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Anyone setting up their own private alias for all the rave mailing
> lists should change the ajbennett listing to mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
> as this is the address for the Midwest-Raves mailing list server.
> (subscription requests to mw-raves-request@engin.umich.edu)
>
> The ne-raves listing should also be changed to ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu
> although subscription requests go to ne-raves-request@silver.lcs.mit.edu.

Please change steve@sunrise.cse.fau.edu or add fl-raves@cybernet.cse.fau.edu.
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From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (perpetually living)
Subject: Re: ALTERN8
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:26:10 GMT

Somewhere in Cyberspace, mlsbc2sjw@dct.ac.uk said about 'ALTERN8':
|
|> Did A8 release a new album? I got their CD SINGLE titled INFILTR-8
|> AMERICA and it has EP behind it, but at my local Underground record
|> store I've been told they have a new full lenght album out. This CD
|> SINLGE I have has 2 remixes of Evapor-8 and three other tunes ["Move My
|> Body" fuckin rules!]
|
|It should be called `Full on Mask Hysteria' or something like that.  It's been
|out over here for ages.  
|
|Altern-8 have ceased to exist in the UK and are going to have a farewell singl
|released in February.  They are to be known as Nexus 21 which is what they wer
|known as before Altern-8.

I guess it just says something about the pathetic state of my life
right now, but this Altern8 thing is bothering me....I was about to
follow up to a post and ask if anyone could verify the rumor that
Altern8 was no more, and then I read this post and see they're going
back to Nexus 21....Is it just me, or is consistency a *goodthing*
when going through the 12" bins?  I dunno, I can't explain it, I just
don't see why after the majority of their popularity came as Altern8
that they'd go back to Nexus 21....Maybe it's self hypnosis...
And who knows, sooner or later they might even decide to run for
office...Next thing ya know those crazy guys 'll be doing wierd stuff
with sheep on national television....

Btw, Moby has changed his name to Voodoo Child...Oh and umm, I just
heard on the radio that Voodoo Child has just been renamed
Brainstorm... 

Oh, and umm, the KLF are back in the business with The Grey Room...

Pranky pranky wanky....

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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Breakbeat
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:10:20 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-08-93 14:58
Quoted From: f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen)
> 
> It's funny though... with the usual killer PAs and the prominent style
> of equalising (i.e. bass & treble at +12 db and everything else at -12 db) and
> record playing (varispeed on your 1200 at +14) practically anything
> can be made sound hardcore. Just add a Roland 303 and off we go!
> 
> Gimme tunes or gimme a lobotomy,
> sZm
> 

I tried this out myself a while ago ... took _Get Ready For This_ (or 
whatever that stupid name was, by that '2 Unlimited' group), and sped 
it up to a decent rate - instant hardcore breakbeat style.  I ended up 
taking a sample of the main baseline and using it in one of my own 
compositions.

> 
> -- 
> sZm
> f1sami@kielo.uta.fi
> From the Edge of Terra Incognita
> "We've transferred all knowledge from his brain to our machine."
>

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From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Brendan A McDougall)
Subject: Boston Area
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:46:42 GMT

Where are the rave clubs and/or rave nites at regular clubs?  Are there  
roving raves like "Toon Town" in San Francisco?  Where are the best places  
to see flyers for the Roving Raves?
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 11 Jan 1993 14:47:41 EST
From: <IO20903@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Smart Drinks

I am interested in the EXACT or close there to ingredients of Smart Drinks.
I have the info re:contents like Gingo, Ginsing, Choline, Levo-XXXXXX, and
all the rest. However, does anyperson know approx how much of these should be
mixed and into what (ie water, OJ, et al.)

Nathan E Tableman
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (enhanced invisible life [Todd Sines])
Subject: Re: Journey Through the Hardcore [Phase 2] / Detroit, 2 January
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:55:02 GMT

yes, Jeff Mills was the mad man. beat matching in less than 10 seconds.... 
probably played thrice the amount of music in half the time of most dj's...

syncopating the beats whilst moving the record backwards with his hand...

that man is so fucking ruff.. JEFF MILLS is the fastest DJ in the WORLD


i thought Journey through the hardcore was hot as hell..... i remember when 
charles heard a snippet of zigzag and got us out of the sci-fi techno area as 
we rushed to the tribal house room for a brief 30 seconds of aural ecstacy...

auuhhhhh!!!!!!



and, kevin saunderson served up some of the best techno in a long while.. mad 
breakbeat tracks...


later all..


sines
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From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Subject: Re: Breakbeat
Keywords: breakbeat
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:06:06 GMT

In article <1683@applix.com> donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241]) writes:
>
>	breakbeat ~= hardcore  ??
>	when did this happen?
>  

i'm not trying to suggest that hardcore=breakbeat... depending on your
definition of hardcore, however, most of the new stuff coming out (at least
the stuff i hear here in houston) has breakbeats rather than that boring
regular 4-4 beat that was considered "hardcore" maybe a year ago...

of course, your conception of hardcore is probably totally different from
mine :)

yours,m
 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:35:44 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1isn91$mte@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B)) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.182830.24528@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa) writes:
>>And then she handed out a very odd blue flyer that I think
>>the crystal-rubbing faction would have enjoyed.  Is this typical of
>>California?  Just curious.  We're a lot more "tight-minded" back East about
>>such things.
>
>What do you mean "crystal-rubbing faction would have enjoyed"?  Did it 
>promise free E or something?  :)

Nothing that basic.  Remember, I am one of those skeptical East Coast kind
of people.  I don't have the flyer anymore -- it's hanging on a wall in
Sommerville, MA, but here's what I remember: it talked about opening your heart 
and lifting the healing power of the rave beyond the location so it could flood 
the earth and heal our planet.

Okay, this makes some sort of sense -- if you are loving and nice to people
at raves, then do it in all areas of you life, but the way it was written
it talked about doing it on the night of the rave to create some kind of
mystic energy envelope.  Maybe this really does work, but it just seemed too, 
well, new-agey for me (being a skeptical East Coaster) to want to particpate 
in.  And to be exhorted to do this by the people promoting the rave in advance
of the rave -- this struck me as being a bit on the evangelical side.  Like,
if I didn't do it I'd be missing the point of their event.  Again, this is the 
skeptical East Coaster in me talking.

Laura
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois)
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:02:57 GMT

phuag@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C J Tilbury) writes:
>>>>I like Sesame's Treat, I like Apotheosis, I like Dominator, I like
>>>>Destoryer, I like Mother Fu*ker Man, I like Na Na, I like Ping Pong,
>>>>I like Pullover, I like Speed Racer.  I dont care if these are
>>>>considered old, or crappy, or commercial, or sellout, or nauseating
>>>>by some guy in the Uk, or some chick in the US.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ok?

>Fine by me. Just don't play them near me.
>>>>
>>	Oooooh Baby ! Speak hard to me ! I didn't know anyone could be so tuff.
>>You're no Raver , your basically the dance version of a Def Leopard and
>>Extreme fan ...... enough said !

Somebody emailed me: "why are you so defensive?"
If I was a defensive, it was becuz I KNEW Id get a reply like this!

>rather than vice versa. Music is an extremely powerful medium. It can 
>alter your whole viewpoint on life. 

And this was the sort of idea I was talking about when referring to
the 'surrealist, crystal-rubbing new wave weirdo people'.  What kind
of statement is this? I like Apotheosis, but it didnt make me convert
religon, take three wives, or kill my parents.

-Dan

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rahal@sdf.lonestar.org (Bobby Rahal)
Subject: Re: USA is *way* behind Europe (Was: YO HO!)
Organization: sdf public access Unix, Dallas -- 214-436-3281
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:47:20 GMT

donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241]) writes:
>In article <C0IE70.G35@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) writes:
>>jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) writes:
>>
>>>Why doesnt MTV USA play any techno like its counterpart in Europe?
>
>
>	POPULAR music in the USA will ALWAYS be behind popular music
>in europe because 1. we have no style, and 2. our repressed/obsessed
>culture is afraid of new things. things must always be kept familiar
>and safe, or else we end up having to join a 12-step group...
>
>
This whole thread is silly. Disco, house & techno were all American
inventions and are still practiced here if you are willing to go far
enough underground. Instead of complaining you should try to search
out local talent. POPULAR music in UK used to be played by DJ's who
had no clue about mixing, breaks, scratching, and BPM until they came
to the states and had there eyes opened.


>>Am I the only Yank who feels this way?

No I think a plenty of MTV watching yanks who feel the same way which
makes me happy because it is much easier to snap up the latest in US
dance music without them.

>Donato Miranda      groove is everywhere. turn it up. feel it.
>
Correct, groove is everywhere, including the US.

Rahal.



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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Drugs or !Drugs
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:43:32 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-10-93 19:38
Quoted From: tripstr@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Todd Courtois)
> 
> >jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
> >I suspect that perhaps a small fraction of the pacifier-sucking kids are
> >involved with drugs, and the rest just do it cause it's "cool."  Not that
> >I claim to understand the kids that think looking like a baby is way nifty
> >neato, but I think the actual drug-users in this group, if any, are few.
> 
> Interesting point.  Is it really evil *not* to use drugs at a rave?  It
> seems to me there are plenty of alread-warped-enough people out there
> that everyone need not be Xing or frying at a rave to have fun.  Certainly
> drugs can act as a "social lubricant" to help lower people's inhibitions
> and make them see things in interesting ways, but isn't it really the
> *mixture* of a variety of interesting people on/off a variety of
>         interesting drugs that truly makes a rave unique?
> 

No ... it isn't evil not to use drugs at raves.  What some people want 
out of the whole experience is completely different to what others 
want.  Raves are the only place I would do anything as far as drugs 
go.  I don't drink, I don't smoke.  Why do I use them then?  When I 
dance at raves, I want to trance out -- be absorbed by the music, and 
feel the rhythm.  Admittedly I am not too great at dancing to any 
other music than rave/techno, probably because of the complicated 
moves you are supposed to know.  I also find that some sort of 
hallucinagenic drug will add to the visuals, and the many strange 
things you find at raves here (image V/R on acid - mind bending).
  It's not my job to go preaching the benefits of drugs, and I don't 
tell people that they must use them if they want to come to a rave. 
Its all a matter of personal preference, as far as I'm concerned.

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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:49:21 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-12-93 16:42
> <original message a responses deleted>
>
> I thought this was so ridiculous that everyone should read this again.
> 
> Me personally, I think this response is what is disillusioning me from the rave
> scene and causing me to think its just the same as the all the College Radio 
> elites...
> 
>         BS
> 

  I don't know if I agree with you totally.  Sure, the guy who wrote 
the ridiculous response is deserving of some negative vibing, but he 
is of a distinct minority.  He is one of the self-proclaimed 'original 
hardcore ravers'.  How many of these people do you really find at a 
rave?  Has this guy ever actually been to one himself?  Maybe the 
whole point to his writing the message was to generate some heavy 
feedback (it has been done...).  It really deserves to be ignored I 
guess.  If people make it clear that this attitude is unwanted, 
he will either eventually decide to change his holyier-than-thou 
point of view, or he'll stop raving when him and his friends decide it 
has become too popular (that one is inevitable), or too boring for 
them.
  In any case, my point is that the scene is still mainly made up of 
nice, friendly people, even if all some want out of it is the musical 
aspect (absolutely nothing wrong with that), and not the whole 
unity(tm) deal (we've seen examples of this in previous threads).

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From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: ALTERN8
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Did A8 release a new album? I got their CD SINGLE titled INFILTR-8
AMERICA and it has EP behind it, but at my local Underground record
store I've been told they have a new full lenght album out. This CD
SINLGE I have has 2 remixes of Evapor-8 and three other tunes ["Move My
Body" fuckin rules!]

Btw is Moby's NExt is the E sold in UK? just wondering...
                             
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From: centaur@netcom.com (Paul Blair)
Subject: How to get Bay Area Rave list?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:59:56 GMT


	I've been reading for a bit, but I haven't seen any info, so...
I've just moved to the Bay Area, and I'd like to get on the Rave mailing
list out here.  Thanks for any info!


	Paul
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From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: ComeUniverse becoming private
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:44:12 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

>
>    ComeUniverse:sfraves@soda.Berkeley.edu,uk-rave@orbital.demon.co.uk,
> ne-raves@silver.lcs.mit.edu,socal-raves@ucsd.edu,cyberpun@wam.umd.edu,
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu,ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu,
> steve@sunrise.cse.fau.edu      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Anyone setting up their own private alias for all the rave mailing
lists should change the ajbennett listing to mw-raves@engin.umich.edu
as this is the address for the Midwest-Raves mailing list server.
(subscription requests to mw-raves-request@engin.umich.edu)

The ne-raves listing should also be changed to ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu
although subscription requests go to ne-raves-request@silver.lcs.mit.edu.

                                                            Mike Brown
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From: Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B) <bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu>
Subject: Re: ComeUniverse becoming private
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:09:08 GMT

I suggested this to geoff but I haven't heard a reply, and that is, the
comeuniverse alias should _not_ include any other mailing lists; since the
list is geared towards the more spiritual bend of raves and dancing, it's
very likely that a large number of people on the various rave mailing lists
might not want to get comeuniverse mail.  I told him he should make a post
or two asking for people to sign up, rather than include the whole world
carte blanche.  I'm not trying to stifle his message or flame him or his ideas
or anything, I just think he has to focus on what audience he wants.  Besides,
I end up getting 5 copies of every comeuniverse message....

	Brian
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From: umcordes@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Trevor Eaton Cordes)
Subject: Re: Breakbeat
Keywords: breakbeat
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:04:05 GMT

In <C0EAwG.2vz@rice.edu> mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:

>In article <C0E5p9.Dx2@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> elombard@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Eddie Lombardi) writes:

>>I'm looking for some excellent breakbeat compilations.
>>Can anyone recomend some.  
>>decribed above.  Also is everyone as sick as I am of hardcore. When I first heard it
>>I really like but know it seems 90% of shit and very repetetive(sp?).

>it's interesting that you're looking for breakbeat comps when you dislike
>hardcore...

I know techno, I know rave... but what is breakbeat?  And how does hardcore differ
from all this?  I have over 40 techno CD's by I don't know a way in hell I could
start categorizing the tracks!

I heard something about a rave FAQ, but haven't seen it yet... could someone mail a
copy to me (instead of flames for asking my previous question!)