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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 08:38:29 CDT
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Was Re: whorf
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> As another example, if someone asks, for instance, "Why did X usage change
> (to something else) ?", the answer is not "because people did it." That is
> well known, and might as well be assumed common knowledge. The question
> merely means "Why was there a need for the usage to change ?"
>
> In short, the obvious reformulations of such statements should be assumed
> and repeated only if necessary. Most people know these things. What they
> want is information.

I agree.  But I'm not sure how this point is related to the recent list
discussion.  Has anybody asked any information-seeking questions?  Most
of the questions I've seen were general and philosophical.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Re: Ultra Slim Fast - was Gleanings

*** Resending note of 04/13/92 19:13

>I can usually get through breakfast by drinking Slim-Fast but lunch poses a
>problem; I want a bacon-cheeseburger and fries with my delicious shake.

>Lisa

No, no, no, Lisa!  For lunch you get some delicious chocolate Ulta Slim
Fast Barf Bars.  Just imagine they are cheeseburgers and fries.  Or wait
until after 30 or 40 years of cheeseburgers and fries and imagine what a
high-cholestoral, high blood pressure induced stroke would be like.
What's that old saying "Experience teaches a dear school, but fools (like me)
learn in no other".
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:25:18 -0500
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Birthday greetings
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Bernard, happy birthday.
May you escape fleas forever.

Doris Smith
dorisann@tenet.edu
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:10:00 MDT
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reflections on the matter of language change

From:         Fredric <FDOLEZAL@UGA.BITNET>

> LINGUISTS all over the world are embarrassed: GHETTO SLANG???????

You name the time
You name the place
We'll rock 'n roll
I'll break your face.

The Ronin - Who was there and watched it happen and don't need no
            linguist to describe it to or for him.

p.s. Anyone who thinks 'rap' is late 70's and 80's lived in the wrong
     neighborhoods.
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE%IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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              7 Apr 1992 20:33:00 EDT from <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>

On Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:33:00 EDT Adam M Hartfield said:
>>Take heart, Rita.  I am a managing editor, and Judith is an editor,
>>so I think we can safely establish our own clique on this list.
>Hey!  I used to be a copy editor!  Does that count?  It proved to me

well, I have edited some professional newsletters over the years.  And was
Assistant Editor of 73 Magazine in the early 60's.   Now lets see who knows
what 73 Mag is.....

dan
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:57:58 -0500
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Something Meaningful and Profound
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1992, Anne Harwell wrote:

> >One whole day with *no* WORDS-L messages in the mailbox made me a very
> >unhappy person...not a single message all day Sunday.
> >ndh
>
> congratulations, nancy, you just made BWP status. The Jones is the sure sign.
>
> -abh

I'm confused..."The Jones is the sure sign..."  *what* Jones?
(particularly interesting, since my mother's maiden name *was* Jones
ndh
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ashe and AIDS

Asketh        leah <LEAH@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

> Anne- why is it news? And what makes it anybody's business? I am not flaming;
> I really would like to know what distinguishes it from gossip. Ashe's death
> would be sad news, but why is his illness any news at all?

     I would think it is fair to say that Arthur Ashe is a well known
and well liked personality.  Enough people identify with him and/or
care about him that when something happens to him it is news.  Whether
or not it should be splashed across the front page in glorious
technicolor is a separate issue, as is whether his having AIDS is any
more tragic than a neighbor down the road.  Perhaps it is more tragic
because his fans (and he still has them, whether he is an active
player or not) will feel the tragedy, and the greater number of people
involved implies a greater tragedy.  Perhaps.

The Ronin
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:46:12 CDT
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Income tax:form 8829

> I wonder how many others on WORDS-L have yet to file their
> US Tax Forms (Is April 15 the big day in Canada or Great Britain

I'm happy to report that I've already received my $30 refund from the
IRS (and unhappy to report that I owed it right back to the state of
Mississippi -- plus another $100 -- contrary to popular myth, the
poorest state in the country is *not* the cheapest state to live in).
Best tax advice:  take the standard deduction.  It took me something
like thirty minutes to do both federal and state taxes this year.
(I must admit, of course, that I also come out better when I do the
standard deduction rather than itemizing.  So maybe my advice should
be this:  keep life simple -- make a low salary, buy a cheap house,
live in an uncomplicated way. :-)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:03:00 MDT
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: tarmac rugrats

Sayeth        Les Buhite

> My wife is fond of saying that revenge is a dish best served cold.

     That was the most memorable phrase from the book _The Godfather_
for me.  "An offer you can't refuse" never made much sense to me.  I
just have to be willing to be that rough first and the offer becomes
quite refusable.

> Fortunately, I've not (so far) had the experience.

     I have gotten to do it a few times.  The best ones follow a basic
script of someone takes advantage of my trust and laughs uproariously
later.  Then after a while that person needs my help on something and
I just smile sweetly and say, "No".  I haven't even needed to rub salt
in the wound.  Most of these abusive bozos do it for me.

The Ronin
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 10:56:54 EST
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Comments:     Resent-From: Michael Ernest <MERNEST@KENTVM>
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Comments:     Originally-From: Michael Ernest <MERNEST@KENTVM.BITNET>
From:         BARTCON%VILLVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU

I saw this quote on Statlg-l and thought it was interesting.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
A quote that just seemed apt for baseball players and their fans:

"To know a man, observe how he wins his object rather than how he
 loses it, for when we fail, our pride supports us, when we succeed,
 it betrays us."
   --Charles Caleb Colton

MFE
MERNEST@KENTVM
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:39:54 EDT
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Conversation Stoppers

On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:32:41 -0400 Rita said:
>>Do you have to be a computer person to get a job at EFF?  Do they need
>>any English geeks there?  It sounds fun!
>
>        Are you kidding?  Not a single person in this office -- including
>our sys admins -- has a degree in computer science.  English degrees are
>the most popular (3), with business degrees being second in line (2).  We
>also
>have a librarian, and our new office manager has her degreein Art History.
>

***Can you just send out an application form on the list?  I think most of us
would probably like to apply!!!
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:46:00 GMT
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG%MCIMAIL.COM@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Conversation Stoppers

>        Well, "funky computer shit" works for some people.  Tonite
>I explained what we do as being concerned with the way computer-based
>telecommunications are reshaping our society.  We  do this on several
>different levels:  from protecting the civil liberties of hackers, to
>being active on the legislative front, to helping individuals get online
>by promoting more user-friendly interfaces.  Didn't mention how we
>just sit around the office sometimes (usually mine for some reason)
>shooting the shit and coming up with interesting projects.  EFF
>office dynamics are, um, interesting...

>Rita

     I want in!

Jill

__________________________________________________
Jill Werts                 (wertsj%dialog@mci.com)
Dialog Information Services
   (Librarians of the world (or word) - unite!)
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 10:10:56 EST
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET%UGA.CC.UGA.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Bumper sticker: Play it safe...
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> Do those of you who teach invite students over? Were you invite       d
> when you were undergraduates?
> -Rod

When my house is clean, a  rarity, I have everyone over. I don't discrim
inate on the basis of enrollment status.:)  When I was an undergraduate,
I never went to a professor's house till I became a Japanese major. In
general, French people are just not as chummy as Japanese.  There are
fewer of us, and I think that's a major factor.

Karen
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:21:21 CDT
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: nouns

>Idempotent is a quantity (or operator) that is unchanged by
>multiplication by itself.  Unity is idempotent, as is any identity
>matrix.
>
>Nothing at all to do with sex, Bayla


The worst fate of all is the nilpotent joke.

tushar
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:14:00 CDT
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From:         "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980"
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Subject:      America's Cup History

Here is a summary of the America's Cup race a couple of weeks ago
on the day NIPPON broke her $150,000.000 boom.  Keith Taylor has
been watching these races from the spectator boat and uploading
periodic updates to Compu Serve.

Sb: Eliminations, Sunday
Fm: Keith Taylor 76702,1533
To: All

Dickson manages a very respectable long starboard tack with his broken wing
while his afterguard works furiously on a jury rig -- tricks include removing
the leeward steering wheel so it won't break or jam if the boom breaks all the
way or gets out of control . Evenually after about 22-14 minutes, and after IL
MORO has tacked away, the boom breaks clean in half, letting Dickson tack.

On the defender course, it didn't take long for KANZA to worth through AMERICA3
in the fresher conditions, only for AMERICA3 to grab the lead back on the run
and lead by 23 second at the leeward mark.

NIPPON's crew get the short, section at the goosneck off the mast. Meanwile,
the mainsail has a remarkable good shape. Now comes the tough part -hammering
out the clew fitting so they can drop the entire boom, while the sail is
sheeted back to the backstay attachment points. Finally they get it free, cover
the open end with a crew jacket so it will float, and slide it out the open
transom for their tender to pick up. Windard sail shape is very respectable,
but what do they do running? Danger of breaking battens here.

In the other challenger race, NEW ZEALAND has a 1:09 second lead over VILLE DE
PARIS at the weather mark.

Who said this stuff was dull!

Italy's lead over NIPPON at the first weather mark was 1:29
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:13:38 EDT
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: That "Come Hither" Blank Stare

      Hope the fact that there are so many librarians on the list doesn't mean
that we need to "get a life".... or worse, have the least work to do
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:57:05 CDT
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ODDS 'N' ENDS

> Or, to put it another way, "English," if it were still called that after
> changing (gradually, to be sure) into a communicative system of grunts,
> would still ba able to convey information between its speakers (or grunters).
> In that sense, it would still be useful to the people who relied on it
> an a means of communication.  That does not mean it would be beautiful.
> It also does not mean it would be elegant.  Chances are that poets writing
> in (grunt) English would not win Nobel prizes for literature.  But if its
> users had no need for beauty or elegance, then there would be no harm
> done by the development from the language we speak into something that
> sounded like grunts.  And if it were to become too cumbersome or imprecise
> for its users, then it would change yet again, just like any other language.
> Right, Natalie?

THANK YOU, FRANK OF BROWN!  (I would use your last name, but you flashed
it before us very quickly and mentioned your fear of its being misspelled.
Although I'm pretty sure I could spell it correctly, I don't want to tell
that risk.)  I'm very happy to see that at least somebody understands what
I've been trying to say.  The only thing in Frank's paraphrase that I might
quibble at all with is the use of terms like "beautiful" and "elegant" as
if there were universal agreement about what is beautiful or elegant.  That
point is minor, however.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Visceral response
Organization: Independent scholar
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:34:17 GMT


Pedant's self-correction: in the posting about the Bulls' coach, there are
two errors.  

  (a) I wrote "Bulls coach" where it should have been "Bulls' coach" or
"Bulls's coach," and
  (b) After adding "(p.6, O...)" I neglected to remove the preceding comma
and insert it after the closing parenthetical bracket.

  Mea culpa.  Jews don't get penances, though -- I'll just add this to my
(very long) Yom Kippur list.  I should have been more careful: I *know*
that messages calling attention to errors are bound to contain egregious
bloopers made by the gleeful pedant! 

--bayla
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:15:00 EDT
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From:         Adam M Hartfield <AHARTFIE%DREW.DREW.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Voices on the list
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>
>I can see why you guys get hooked on this - articles go out and
>come back in in a minute.  And new items keep getting loaded into
>mail faster than I can read the current ones.
>
>(excuse the burbling - it must be kulchur shock...)
>
>G


Ah, now that's the TRUE sign of BWP'ing--switching from news to mail.
I did the same (when? last fall? last summer? sometime last year),
and words-l has never been the same.  It got SO much better through
mail.

--Adam
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No flame intended (particularly), but this discussion reminds me of an item
I read somewhere. A young woman was visiting her mother, and was in company
 with several of her mother's friends, who were moralizing about AIDS, con-
demning those who have it, and expressing their strong view that AIDs was
 God's retribution against those who lived immoral lives. The daughter, neither
 wishing to embarrass her mother, nor to continue in the silence that implied
agreement, offered the suggestion that "Maybe AIDs is God's way of testing
your compassion."
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Subject:      Re: sad thought

>     Within my posting I said that a number of the private schools
>started in the South to avoid integration also claimed to be there to
>provide a better education. ---
---even they weren't naive enough to think they could get away with saying
that the purpose was to avoid having to have their children going to school
with blacks...


>of the private schools in the North were started not to provide a
>better education, but to segregate based on economic stature.
--I may have to concede this point to you!  I'm sure that was part of the
rationale, but not the whole story...


>a reply about the fundamental differences between the two types of
>segregation.
one (racial segregation) seems to me to be based on contempt, while the
other (economic segregation) perhaps has a more pragmatic foundation:
the sons and daughters of wealthier families, as the future leaders of society,
could be presumed to need a different kind of education, suited to their future
roles... for example, they would need French more than Shop...
Meanwhile, I'm not sure I like having to defend this system either....just
being the devil's advocate, keeping my personal views at bay../
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old-Timers? Generation X?
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> list for the first time not long after Natalie (ahh...the good old days
> of homegrown software on a Univac 1100).  Since that time I have left

There really were some good things about those old days.  Among other
things, maynor@msstate could suddenly turn intobernard@msstate and
send/receive mail.  And mail to erroneous userids didn't automatically
bounce back to the sender.  It was manually diverted to the likely
recipient.  That homegrown software was excellent, especially if one
of the growers of it was willing to let a dog get mail.

> gateway became operational.  I still haven't figured out whether usenet
> readers are real members.

They are.  I can think of several good reasons to count them as very
much real.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Voices on the list
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> Do postings get counted in the BWP stats if they're done through USENET?

Yes.  But the most efficient way to reply to the list when you're reading
it on usenet is to send your reply to the list by mail rather than using
the usenet 'reply' command.  (By "efficient" I mean the best way for the
majority of readers to see your reply quickly.  Sometimes a reply sent
through usenet takes a long time to get to the listserv and be
distributed.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deserving Flames

Sayeth        Steve Portigal <stevep@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA>

>   Having sex (as one possible way of getting AIDS) does not seem like
> something that could kill you.  It's hard for us to believe that this
> is a real consequence, and many people don't really truly believe that it
> *could* happen to them.  You don't get several chances with STD anymore
> before you realize it could happen to you.

     One hasn't always had several chances, either.  Cures for STD's
like syphillis (sp?) are recent.  I recall reading about some of the
problems this particular STD caused earlier this century, and there
were some strong parallels between what I read and the current AIDS
situation.  As for your argument that after riding horses for a while
one comes to expect one will fall off, what if the first time one is
thrown one breaks one's neck and is paralyzied for life?  Especially
if it is the first time on a horse.  There was no learning curve
there, either.  Some people may get STD's several times without
getting AIDS, some people may get it immediately.  While I would mourn
our loss if Rita has a fatal fall from her horse, I would also
acknowledge (as she did) that it was a known risk and she participated
knowingly.  One of the tragedies of AIDS is when people want to
restrict processes that make the risks known, especially to
teen-agers.  These attitudes are saying that people should not be
allowed to be responsible for themselves.

     As for me, I am not phobic about AIDS and STD's, but I also am
not taking 'unnecessary' risks.  I have been strong on condoms for at
least 20 years, because of that most dreadful of STD's, the *unwanted*
child.

The Ronin
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Subject:      Re: CompuServe Flat Rate - New

I knew there had to be a catch... there always is
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