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From: richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson)
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON SUCKS SHIT!!!
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:46:37 GMT

mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu wrote:
: Is the best team the one that turns the ball over five times?  Is the best
: team the one that both allows a TD-robbing interception to occur and the
: return to get across the fifty yard-line?  Is the best team the one that
: calls for a pass from the endzone when its quarterback was being pressured 
: all day?
:    
:    I admit the Redskins did not seem exactly dominant, but they made all they
: could out of abundant Cowboys mistakes.  It can be said that the Redskins
: didn't deserve to win, but it can't be said that the Cowboys didn't deserve to
: lose.

Well, I've been holding back long enough, I gotta stick up for my fellow
Cowboy fans.  Granted, 5 turnovers is a lot.  But it should have been only
3 (still enough to lose a game, but not the way they played Sunday).  The
fucking referees, the same ones that dicked us last year in the
Meadowlands againt the Giants in the game that got instant replay nuked for
this year, directly contributed to the Redskins only two touchdowns.  We
all know about the fucked up play with a little more than 3 minutes to go
in the game (incomplete pass, no doubt about it).  But why hasn't anyone
brought up the so-called Kelvin Martin "muff" of a punt, the one that 
gave the Redskins the ball on the Cowboys 42-yard line, the same one
where the Redskins scored on the next play?  The replay (and my review
of the tape of the game) clearly showed that the ball hit a Redskin on the
knee (#41) before it hit Martin on the foot;  it should have been Dallas
ball near mid-field.  And the refs TRIED to give the Redskins a touchdown
in the second half, when they flagged Haley for being offsides when the
left tackle CLEARLY moved early.  What in the fuck were 7 officials looking
at such that they all missed that one?

Enough whining from me, I had to get that off my chest.  This game does
absolutely nothing to Dallas as far as playoff positioning goes, they
will get a bye in the first round, host a second round game, and if
San Francisco wins their playoff game, Dallas will go to S.F. and sic
the Urinator (C. Haley) on Steve Young, Montana, and anyone else that
Siefert wants to get hurt.  

Oh, yeah, if we get to play Washington in our first round playoff game,
we won't have to hear all that crap about how hard it is to beat the
same team 3 times in one season.

Go Cowboys!
-- 
Richard Thompson
richard@ods.com
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:58:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec18.172254.19583@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <102597@netnews.upenn.edu> sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja) writes:
>Scenario:
>
>seedings
>   5       Washington
>   6       Philly
>
>Wildcard: Philly beat Minn, Washington beat NO
>divisional: Philly beat SF, Washington beat Dallas
>
>Bingo, NFC championship game at RFK!!!
>
>Is the above scenario rarer than a plane crash?

Washington over philly
washington over NO
washington over dallas

this is sure rarer than a plane crash!!!!
May be will decide how rare this weekend.....

>                                          Edward Lor
>                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com


-Rajeev
A Scrambling Eagle Fan..
hey, vintage 1990 randall is back...
GO EAGLES....
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikes.... NFC Central Champs!!!
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:56:46 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Steam Valve off......

Yaaaaa Hooooooooo!!!!
Sorry Pack fans .... next year.......
All the tension of the past weeks had to be let out. 
Now I am happy and I do not care if the Vikes don't
make it to the SB....
All I wanted is for Green to win the Central ....


---------
Back to seriousness....
The win was ugly but the Vikes dominated the Steelers. If not for
the fumbled snaps by Salsbury the Vikes would have buried the
Steelers.
At one point I had almost given up....but a tremendous drive in
the closing moments resulted in the game winning FG. 

Congratulations Vikes.....and Green.

S.H
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:40:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: HEY TEGGER!!! (was Re: Miami/Bills/Chiefs for #2 spot)
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:04:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.191544.8069@cci632.cci.com> teg@cci632.cci.com (Thomas Gauger) writes:
>In article <Bz3srA.FBL@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews) writes:
>>Not only that, but 3 wins by Miami and a loss by Buffalo puts Miami #2
>>in the AFC.  They would then have a BYE the first week of playoffs, and
>>the next week they would HOST a team, most likely the AFC West Champ
>>(K.C? San Diego?).  Win that game at home and Miami goes to Pittsburg
>>(unless the Steelers are upset by a wildcard team) for the right to
>>play in the Superbowl.
>>-- 
>>-- Thad Crews                             (email thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>BUZZER PLEASE!!!! YOU ARE WRONG ... BEING A DOLPHINS FAN APPARENTLY DEAD WRONG!
>
>	Rank 1) Division Winner with best record
>	Rank 2) Division Winner with second best record
>	Rank 3) Division Winner with third best record
>	Rank 4) Wild Card Team with best record
>	Rank 5) Wild Card Team with second best record
>	Rank 6) Wild Card Team with third best record
>
>Therefore, any second place divisional team will NOT have a BYE in any round
>in the playoffs. Only the Rank 1 and Rank 2 teams get a BYE, and they are both
>divisional winners.
>
>==================================
>The TEGGER
>Rochester's self proclaimed #1 Bill's Fan

BUZZ YOURSELF TEGGER!!! ...  BEING A BILLS FAN APPARENTLY YOUR BRAIN IS FROZEN!

I repeat myself, "3 wins by Miami and a loss by Buffalo puts Miami #2
in the AFC.  They would then have a BYE the first week of playoffs, ..."
~~~~~~~~~~  (underline provided for certain readers)

You say Rank 2, I say #2; either way it means the Division winner with the
second best record in the AFC.

And if the Bills and Dolphins lose once with the Chiefs winning against the
Giants and Broncos, the the Chiefs would be the #2 team in the AFC (or the
Rank 2 team for those of you with frostbite between the ears).  That is what
I am pulling for, because I am a Kansas City Chiefs fan, NOT a Dolfan.  :-)
                               
-- 
-- Thad Crews                             (email thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Butler and the Pack
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:16:26 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <c35403hRc2Gn00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
>In article <3539@carroll1.cc.edu> jpwieske@carroll1.cc.edu (JP Wieske) writes:
>>I guess I want to clear up discussion about the LeRoy Butler Incident.
>
>You gotta be kidding!!! 
>
>>First accorging to papers here, butler and Adre Ware are friends.
>>Butler did not knock Andre Ware down, to the best of my memory, he remained
>>standing. (Andre Ware implied this in an interview)
>>After the game, Butler apologized to Ware and to Wayne Fonts. Monday morning
>>he faxed apology letters to Fonts and Ware. Ware said he didn't even remember 
>>the incident after the game.
>>It is an isolated incident in Butler's career. In his 3 years in the NFL hes
>					 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Ahem.. Butler is a rookie! 

Oops for some reason I have tried to make Butler and Terrel Buckly into one
person.. You know... DB.. FSU all that stuff... Damn FSU has a lot of DBs in 
the league.. Deion, Butler (Bobby and Leroy), McDowell, Buckley and at least 
one more whose name escapes me.


Self-flame mode off! 



-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....


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From: sue@dracut.keps.com (Sue Klimowicz)
Subject: Re: Vikings + Gannon = Suck! 
Originator: sue@dracut
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:21:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.191238.1424@dracut.keps.com> sue@dracut.keps.com (Sue Klimowicz) writes:
> In article <1992Dec16.140538.4886@unislc.uucp> jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske) writes:
> > sue@dracut.keps.com (Sue Klimowicz) writes:

> I wasn't referring to the coaches but to the owners (administration). They
> have much to do with how the team should be run. The only thing I blamed
> the coaches for is bad play calling and pulling Gannon. 
> 
> I personally think Kramer and Wilson are excellent QBs and are proving it
> right now. Gannon, Kramer and Wilson have all had big days while playing
> for the Vikes. But there is something about the Vikes that keep them from
> being another Kelley, Montana ect.  I know the way I wrote the previous
> post it looks like I think the QBs are ruined for good. Sorry. I only
> meant that as a Viking they are not used to their potential and then are
> traded as being ineffective. 
> 
> I just noticed that everyone is blaming the QB and saying that getting another
> one will solve the Vikes problem.  I don't believe this. I bet you Young
> would look bad behind the Vikes Offense. Gannon is an excellent QB and if
> he sticks with it he will probably be a **bad** asset to a NFL team. But I
> think his career with the Vikes is over.
> 

Sorry didn't mean to put **bad** there. Freudian slip maybe? :-)

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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN P. GLORIA)
Subject: The RAMS SUCK!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:19:36 GMT

No use to rag too much on the Rams poor playing, but....

Are the Rams that LOUSY or are the Saints that GOOD?
Sheesh, what a sorry-ass performance by the Rams as
a whole. One bright spot was Cleveland Gary as he
ran THROUGH the SAINTS for one great run, but alas
he fumbles shortly thereafter.

Oh, damn, the score was Rams  0 and Saints 30, 4th qtr.
and damn CBS switches to the DALLAS vs REDSKINS game.
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
	"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
  is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:50:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:10:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What happened to Browns? Spielman?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:30:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


The Browns just...had nothing.  I dont' understand how the team can
go from playing so well one week to shooting any playoff hopes in
the foot.
Game summary - 
The first series of the game set the tone for the first half - Kosar
knocked down, Kosar sacked.  Try to get the ball to Metcalf, who
everyone KNOWS is going to be the main man after last week's game.
I could have predicted this, but I thought Belichick learned after
the Raiders game that Metcalf can be a weapon, but only when he sneaks
up on a team.  Hoard started to be effective at the end of the 3rd,
but by then the game was over.  Jackson had a beautiful pass for a  TD,
and was open all day, but Bernie only had time once or twice to hit him.
I think only three or four passes went to the recievers, he kept having
to dump off to Mack and Vardell.  THe sack on the second play went to
Spielman, who came in practically untouched.
The Browns D came up short with no help from anywhere.  Turner had a nice
play in the end zone (knocked a TD from Herman Moore), but a few plays
later the corner (Allen Haller?) got faked and missed the tackle for the
TD (although I thought he didnt quite make the corner).
Kosar didn't get into the swing of things until Belichick realized Metcalf
wasn't working , middle of the third when Bernie took over, what happens,
Jackson on a fly.  The D couldn't stop Barry (MD Perry was the only one
who had solid tackles on him), the offense misfired again, and the punt
was blocked.  The rest was garbage time (quick pass to Metcalf for the
TD).
The team did not look like it belonged in the playoffs...
Belichick and Saban couldn't get anything out of anyone...
Kosar showed how much we need linemen...
Houston saved the only playoff shot we had...
And we still need other teams to lose and wins over Hou and Pitt...
Maybe next year...

Go Bucks!!
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From: jmelcher@polisci.umn.edu (James Melcher)
Subject: Re: What is a "Packer"? Viking fan wants to know
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:02:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.195725.10877@data-io.com> dietz@parody.Data-IO.COM (Kent Dietz) writes:

>I was just wondering what exactly is a "Packer"?
The name dates back from the beginnings of the franchise.  Curly Lambeau, 
the original coach, had some connection to a packing firm in Green Bay, 
or at least got them to sponsor the team.  I believe some of the really 
early Packer uniforms had "Acme Packers" on the front of their jerseys.  

^Also, why was Green Bay>chosen as a NFL site?
They're a charter member of the league, or darn close to it!  They go back 
to the days in the 1920's when the NFL was primarily comprised of franchises 
in medium-sized cities in the Midwest.  The Decatur Staleys (who became Da 
Bears), the Duluth Eskimos, the Canton Bulldogs, the Minneapolis Marines... 
all were part of the early NFL.

^ What population base is drawn from? Milwaukie 
and ...?>

Look, Wisconsin does have more people than Minnesota, and some other 
states with NFL teams- all of which deserve their teams, just as 
Wisconsin does.  It's not as though Wisconsin is a tiny state.  Many people 
in the UP of Michigan are also Packer fans.  Furthermore, in part because 
they are the league's "small town" team, many people across the country like 
the Packers.  Look how many posts the Packer fans put on here- especially 
now that they are playing well for a change...:-) 

^I am going to my atlas 
^right after this post to see exactly where Green>Bay is.

It's in NE Wisconsin, on Lake Michigan (on Green Bay, to be precise :-))

>I am a die-hard Viking fan, but have somewhat of a soft spot in my heart
>(or is that head) for the Packers.
May the best team win the Central Division.  I will be delighted to 
congratulate you if the Vikings prevail. You have a very classy coach, and I 
think your team has a good future.  I feel the same way about my Packers.
Hope this clears things up-
Jim Melcher
Univ. of Minnesota
"Your friendly neighborhood Packer fan in St. Paul"
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From: nix@ssdss5.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix)
Subject: Packer Running Backs
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:31:48 GMT

Do any Packer fans know anything about the Vince Workman situation?  I
understand that the Packer coaches have a dilemma concerning IR moves.
Has the Green Bay front office given any indication about their intentions?

Thompson had a rough day at Houston, but Houston has a good defense.  Are
the coaches concerned enough about the Houston showing to bring back 
Workman, or are they sloughing it off due to the strength of Houston's
defense?

Nix
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From: federkin@rtsg.mot.com (John Federkins)
Subject: Week #17 schedule
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:28:03 GMT

Anybody have the schedule for Week #17 handy?
If so, please show home teams.  Thanks alot.

John
-- 
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Motorola, Inc.				Arlington Heights, IL
From: harrisl@unssun.nevada.edu (Larry Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rice....Touchdown 49errrrrs!
Date: 20 Dec 92 04:45:45 GMT
Reply-To: harrisl@unssun.UUCP (Larry Harris)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada-Reno

In article <1992Dec20.035111.23847@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>In article <5123@equinox.unr.edu> harrisl@unssun.nevada.edu (Larry Harris) writes:
>>49ers       21
>>Buccaneers  14
>>
>>Can't say it was the best game I've seen, but it's a W.
>
>Agree. Not the best game I've seen either, but Young's two TD
>passes to Rice were classics. One on One, Mano a Mano, and
>Reynolds had no chance against perferctly thrown passes by
>Young and Rice's ability to separate himself at the last
>moment to make a reception.
>

I agree with you on Reynolds. I watched with horror during the first half as
Reynolds swatted the ball out of Rices hands. It appeared that Jerry knew he 
had his day cut out for him. But, by the second half the 49ers seemed to adjust
to the zone defense of the Bucs and were able to connect more of their passes.

__
"The brakes were useless, the car was wandering. The rear end was coming around.
I jammed it down into low, but it made no difference and braced for a serious
impact, a crash that would probably kill me.....
"My heart was full of joy as I took the first hit, which was oddly soft and
painless. No real shock at all....Yes. These huge white lumps were not boulders.
They were sheep."
                           "Fear and Loathing in Elko"
                               Hunter S. Thompson 
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