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From: Jim.McCullars@f1.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jim McCullars)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Honorable Governor Hunt
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 02:12:46 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/1 - Net 373 Echomail Hu, Huntsville AL

In a message of <Jan 01 20:49>, Leah Wesolowski (1:373/2) writes: 

 LW>and to it I add, the DemoCatz were the ones who had told me I 
 LW>could do that (put the money in my personal account) Perhaps it 
 LW>was bad advice given on purpose, which is probablly why I didn't 
 LW>follow it.

   You can put the money in your personal account, but like you said in your 
message to David, you have to declare it on your taxes.  This is another area in 
which the governor is likely to be in trouble, and it has not even been 
addresed in any of the indictments handed down.  While media accounts pictured 
the IRS looking into the governor's finances after the indictments were 
publicized, I'd heard at least three weeks ago that they were on it.

 LW>anyway. Election laws are held at both levels, yet violations of 
 LW>the Constitution fall under the Federal COurts which is why he 
 LW>went to that particular court.

   Now, *I* don't understand.  How is an investigation of the governor by the 
Ethics Commission a violation of the Constitution?

Jim

 



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Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
Subject: Re: A riddle...
Keywords: I need tickets
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 14:33:14 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com (Guy D. McConnell) writes:

> In article <1992Dec31.160751.22567@b8.b8.ingr.com>, smw@wikki.b17c.ingr.com (
  [ ... ]
> |> Look at the bright side, at home you can drink beer *and* you'll be able t
> |> see the football players without having to use binoculars.
> 
>     Sounds like you've been looking at *my* game plan!

Oh, is there a game or something on this weekend? Seems like I have
to take down the lights on the tower, rake the yard, clean all the
CRTs, or something worthwhile like that.

Gary Heston, at home....        ...Alabama: The finest football team
gary@cdthq.uucp                      money can buy....
From: Leah.Wesolowski@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Honorable Governor Hunt
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:21:08 CST
Organization: Micro Magic

"You don't get indicted just because someone doesn't like you"
 
 
WRONG
 
The indictment process is not an indication of Guilt, it is an indication 
that further investigation needs to occur in most cases, however it 
does not brand the accused as "GUILTY". In the US all people are *
 
SUPPOSED* to be innocent until proven guilty.
 
Governor Hunt is Republican. That makes him unpopular with many people 
in power in Montgomery, including the State Attorney General. Yet, 
if you recall your recent history, probably the reason we have a 
Republican Governor is because he was one of the only candidates to 
not conduct a negative campaign. While the Democatz were busy clawing 
each other's eyes out he was conducting an issue oriented campaign.
 
Now those 'Fat Catz are done fighting amongst each other and have 
nothing better to do than to lash out at the one who they view as 
a threat. Governor Hunt, again, as has been his tradition, is not 
lashing out like a trapped animal, he is taking it all in stride. 
He has not come out with inflammatory statements, he has not attacked 
anyone, no. Instead he has made the statement that the tax-payer will 
not bear the brunt of the expenses incurred in his defense. Yet another 
example of his integrity, something that seem so lacking in many other 
officials.
 
Leah



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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Uploaded Viruses
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92  0:40:24 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Well, lemme reword that.
 If someone uploads a virus, it can't really infect your system
unless you "load" the program right? Please explain.

 

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Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: virus (again)
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 22:04:56 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

Scott.Burgett@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett) writes:

> Has there been a problem of commercial software being infected or 
> systems for that matter?  I wouldn't think that there would be, but 
> just curious if anyone has heard of such an incident.

Yes, there have been various packages (I read of one report that 
some infected packages of GEM were found) and some demo discs
have been distributed with viruses (including one antiviri package
that was a Michangelo-only detector; it was infected with another
virus....). Leading Edge, I believe, shipped several hundred 
systems that were infected, early last year.

It does happen, but things have gotten *much* better over the last
year or so.

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: dclark@tolstoy.b11.ingr.com (Dave Clark)
Subject: Re: Beating the Food World price
Reply-To: dclark@b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:38:35 GMT

In article <Pk22VB1w161w@cdthq.UUCP>, gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston) writes:
|> kenney@tribe.b17d.ingr.com (David Kenney) writes:
|> 
|> > Recently while shopping at Food World, I noticed that it was cheaper per
|> > ounce to buy lots of the 18-load size boxes of laundry detergent
|> > than it is to buy the "Super-Duper Huge" sized box.
|> > 
|> > Yesterday I noticed the same thing with dishwasher detergent.  I had the
|> > following 2 choices (not including tax):
|> > 
|> > 50 oz. @ $1.99 or 3.98 c/oz. or
|> > 65 oz. @ $2.69 or 4.13 c/oz.
|> > 
|> > What's the deal?  Does it really cost more per ounce to produce and package
|> > larger sized containers, ot have consumers become so accustomed to hearing
|> > the words "Large Economy Size" that stores can now make a large profit from
|> > that conditioning?
|> 
|> No, it costs *less* per ounce to pack in the larger sizes. The 
|> general rule of prices is that the size they want to move this
|> week will have the lowest price/portion ratio.

This is usually due to a (relatively) new system called Direct Product
Profit (DPP) which retailers use to compute the product price.  DPP
accounts for a number of factors including shelf life, package size,
weight, etc.  The type of price discrepancy you deserved is often due
to the fact that, since larger items take up more shelf space, they are
computed to cost the retailer more to sell _per_unit_.

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Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
From: 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson)
Subject: Sugar Bowl packages available ...
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:55:51 GMT

I found a couple of Sugar Bowl packages still available
if anyone needs them.  They include:

	3 nights at the Clarion in New Orleans 12/30-31 and 1/1
	Bus transportation roundtrip from Decatur
	All transfers and options on New Years Eve Partys, etc.
	AND	1 TICKET TO THE GAME.

Sandra is selling these for $425.00 each, based on double occupancy.

Sandra is with a travel agency in Decatur and she is at 350-7415.


Since I dont need a hotel or the transportation, I STILL NEED TICKETS !!!

Barry
From: Leah.Wesolowski@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Uploaded Viruses
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:35:00 CST
Organization: Micro Magic

Dear Ken Putt,
 
About my late night endeavors... I am a bona-fied insominac. I can't 
get any sleep!
 
Leah



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Newsgroups: hsv.general,hsv.politics
From: wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson)
Subject: who else: our Governor
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:33:30 GMT

For lack of discussion in these newsgroups, anyone think the Governor's recent
trip to jail was a wise political move?

Keith (just say, "I don't remember", Ronnie and Ollie did...) Wilson



Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Internet
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 21:55:33 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

Scott.Burgett@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett) writes:

> Got a question.
>  
> How do you send E-Mail directly to someone's Internet address through 
> FIDOnet?  I know how to send from Internet to FIDO net, but not the 
> reverse.

Can't help you there; I'm strictly internet....

  [ ... ]
> Of course, as usual, it's my own opinion.  Now mailing between FIDO 
> net and Internet is a BIG pain, I will admit to that.  Of course I 
> think Intergraph might have a NEWS reader setup with a conference 
> devoted solely to this ECHO.  Might be called something like:
>  
> alt.huntsville.local   I'm not sure.

There is a hsv hierarchy; this group is hsv.general in the internet
side of things.

> And all they have to do is post a message there and the NEWS program 
> takes care of the rest. 

Well, there's a gateway at a Fido site (Micro Magic, I think) that
gets a feed from InteGraph (ingr.com). Also, there's a big difference
between news and email on the internet side. News is posted to a
group, which is usually concerned with a specific topic, and it's
not necessary to know anyones' address to do so. Email is addressed
to one or more specific persons, and will only be seen by them.
It's been 6 or 7 years since I last used a bbs, and have no idea
what the equivalent is on the fido side.

By the way, there's another addressing standard out there, called
X.400. Anyone who thinks Fido or internet addressing is wierd will
be blown away by that; the address are longer than most of the 
signatures I've seen. Unfortunantly, that's what the world is
moving to....

Gary Heston, at home...
gary@cdthq.uucp
From: Leah.Wesolowski@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: "message"
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:31:22 CST
Organization: Micro Magic

I saw one of your posts here and was wondering about it. Someone, 
I think the guy who wanted the Sugar Bowl tickets, wrote that this 
is not official business but the new rule doesn't take effect until 
Jan 1... or something like that.
 
Does this mean that you people out there are going to have to work 
more and type here less? If that is true, I will miss you!
 
No scarcasm!
 
I hope you all got personal computers at home complete with modem!
 
Leah the communication junkie (according to her better half)
 
:)



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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Uploaded Viruses
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92  0:39:07 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

I think it is a danged shame that people do such things as
upload viruses to people who operate in a PUBLIC SERVICE, at
much cost, and time (not to mention all that computer equiptment
all over the room!) I am listening to Steven Douglas tapes sent
for Christmas from my birth mother, he gives speeches on "stress
reduction", one of the things he says that will help lower your
stress level is to lower your expectations of people... he goes
on to explain how this does not mean that one should lower one's
standards; just their expectations. He tells a story about a
secretary he once had. The company policy was you could be late
3 times, after that--you are fired. On the fourth time she came
in late he called her into his ofice; she said "Are you mad?" He
said, "No, me? I am not mad, I never get mad." She said "Great,
I'll just get busy..." He said, "I'm not mad, but you are still
fired, see you later." She said But AH! Um... I thought you
weren't mad?" He said, I'm not; I expected you would be late"
"then why am I fired?" Company policy!
   Somehow this all ties in.
Leah

 

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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: rusty@infonode.ingr.com (Rusty Wiginton)
Subject: Re: Stupid Addresses!
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:30:24 GMT

Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:

>Since I read the Ken (Brian) Putt note here I HAD to comment at how 
>those Intergraph addresses are the really stupid thing! I mean, with 
>all those high power programmers out ther at intergraph there ought 
>to be a way that we can communicate without those STUPID addresses!?
>Leah

Why do you find the domain style addressing we use as stupid?
If my mail path is rusty@mstn.b17d.ingr.com, this means I use
mstn as my mail-node, and my domain is building 17d, which is
part of intergraph, which is a commercial site. There are .gov,
.edu, .mil, .org ,in the US, and .can for Canada and a .su for the Soviet
Union (somewhat outdated) and many more for communication around the
world. Access to the Internet is both a privledge and a honor to 
have, considering the amount of information exchange that goes on,
and what you can learn from people who either have answers or experience.
I suggest you find a public ftp account and get a FAQ or an internet
guide to learn what it is all about before you criticize. One thing
to learn is how to minimize the noise level in newgroups (useless postings
that contain no real information, and take up bandwidth). I hope this
posting was educational, and beneficial to this newgroup.

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					Rusty Wiginton
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                                      (Internet)rusty@b17d.mstn.ingr.com
From: Scott.Burgett@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: virus
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 22:44:12 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Another note about my friend who got the virus on his hard drive. 
He was running some programs (and yes, he didn't scan any of them 
for viruses) and suddenly his DOS commands were disappearing from 
the drive.  He figured out what virus it was and erased using McAfee's 
Virus Scanner and Clean-Up.  But he was still having problems with 
his hard drive, so I am assuming he didn't clear his hard drive 
completely of the virus.



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Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Stupid Addresses!
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 18:36:15 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:

> Since I read the Ken (Brian) Putt note here I HAD to comment at how 
> those Intergraph addresses are the really stupid thing! I mean, with 
> all those high power programmers out ther at intergraph there ought 
> to be a way that we can communicate without those STUPID addresses!?

What I can't understand is how anyone can communicate with those
insane fidonet addresses. I mean, how can anyone remember anything
like user@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG, when user@b11.ingr.com or
divot@cdthq.uucp is available?

Particularly when there are at least five Fido<-->internet gateways,
each screwing up addresses a little differently, turning loose floods
of old articles with munged headers to waste bandwidth (the subject
of many flamewars in the news.admin.misc group).

:-)

Actually, considering the humongous hack that makes up the internet
(herein referring to all the interconnected networks, including Fido),
I'm amazed that over 50% of the mail gets delivered. My rejection 
rate seems to stay down around 5%...and that's to sites country- and
world-wide.

(Too bad RFC822 and RFC1036 weren't around when Fido was created.)

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Reindeer information!!!
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 20:49:16 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers


Ok; I went by this evening, and they're out there!! (Posting at
8:32 pm Monday.)

Directions, from Drake and Triana, heading west (towards Patton):

Take the third right, onto Clopton; then, the third left, onto
Spruce. Reindeer are in about the fourth house, on the right, 
under a red-and-white canopy. It's the house with all the lights.

After you finish there (kids can have their picture taken in the
sleigh with the reindeer, etc.), continue along Spruce until it
dead-ends, then turn left onto Grote. This will lead you back to
Drake, by way of cdthq.uucp, which will be the 60 foot tall tower
on your right. You should be able to hear the electric meter
whizzing from the street....


From Patton/Jordan and Drake, heading east (towards Triana/Parkway):

Take the second left *after* the entrance to Hillsborough Heights
Baptist Church (the entrance is across from the gas station and
convenience store at Thomas Rd), where the retaining wall ends.
This is Grote; the large glow on the left is cdthq.uucp. Take the
third right onto Spruce, and the reindeer will be at the house
with all the lights on the left, about three streets down. Once 
you're done, follow Spruce to the end, turn right onto Clopton,
and follow it to Drake.

I went by about 7:00 with a light drizzle, and there were probably
12 to 15 cars there. I assume they'll permit pictures until at
least 9:30, but expect to stand in line for a few minutes. The 
reindeer should be there until at least Christmas Eve, possibly 
through the weekend.

Enjoy!

(Sorry 'bout that munchkin attack!)

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp, now broadcasting with 3700 watts, in the 
                        visible spectrum....
From: Leah.Wesolowski@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: BBS
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:19:57 CST
Organization: Micro Magic

Dear John,
    Your BBS says that the disk is full. I just thought you should 

know that.
Leah



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Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general
From: 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson)
Subject: Will pay $400 for Sugar Bowl Tickets
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:39:35 GMT

Yes, that is correct.  If you have 10 tickets to the
Sugar Bowl, I will pay you $400 for all of them.
	-or-
I'll even pay $80 for a pair of tickets...
	-or-
I'll pay $160 for 4 tickets...


Wouldn't you rather stay at home and watch the game on ABC
anyway ???  Think about, then call me with those loose tickets..



=========================================================
=		      Barry L. Wilson			=
=             Program Manager - Project Services	=
=    Intergraph Corporation, Systems Integration        =
= 	               (205) 730-3384 			= 
=    		      ingr!b30!sis!blw		   	=
=========================================================
From: Robby.Sperr@f14.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Robby Sperr)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Thank you
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 19:14:24 CST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/14 - The Wild Side BBS, Meridianville AL






Thank you for the virus...I hope to return the favor someday.



                      <<<***### Robby Sperr ###***>>>
                        <<<***### Nifeman ###***>>>




H. Ross Perot for President and America won't go broke!








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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: puttk@infonode.ingr.com (Ken Putt)
Subject: Re: Uploaded Viruses
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:24:48 GMT

Michael.Konor@p0.f8.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Konor) writes:

>LW>  If someone uploads a virus, it can't really infect your system
>LW> unless you "load" the program right? Please explain.

>I wasn't talking about loading it.  I said that I decompress the files and
>scan them for known viruses.

Simply copying a virus-laden file onto your disk should cause no
damage.  Causing that program to be executed "kicks in" the virus. Ever
extract an archive that pumped out a neat little advertising blurb as
it started decompressing? Please note that it could be possible
to hide a virus in an "archive" so that when you "unzip" it (especially
a self-extracting one) it executes the virus. The safest way to extract
and scan new files is to do so on a floppy. Load and run the program on your
hard drive only when you are as sure as you can be that it is virus and trojan
free. Fortunately, these beasties are very rare. I've been a BBS'er for 
years and a full time sysop as well and never saw bit nor byte of one, 
even though I scanned every up and download religeously.

Ken

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=        Kenny B. Putt   Component Engineer   brian@ce.b21.ingr.com          =
==============================================================================
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Newsgroups: hsv.general
From: hovanesk@infonode.ingr.com (Bonehead)
Subject: Re: Will pay $400 for Sugar Bowl Tickets
Organization: Bonehead Central
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:23:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.143935.24810@b30.ingr.com> 3808@b30.ingr.com (Barry Wilson) writes:
>Yes, that is correct.  If you have 10 tickets to the
>Sugar Bowl, I will pay you $400 for all of them.

400/10 = 40 (the actual price of the ticket)

>	-or-
>I'll even pay $80 for a pair of tickets...

80/2 = 40  (the actual price of the ticket)

>	-or-
>I'll pay $160 for 4 tickets...

160/4 = 40  (the actual price of the ticket)

>=========================================================
>=		      Barry L. Wilson			=

Barry, Barry, Barry.  I hate to tell you this, but the likelyhood of
you getting any tickets for $40 each is just about zero.  This will be
the National Championship Game.  You might get a ticket cheap after 
the game starts, but I doubt it.

Ken "Football, Smootball.  All I want is a		
				big Hanukkah gift on the 8th night" Hovanes 
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: virus
From: gary@cdthq.UUCP (Gary Heston)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 23:19:59 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

Scott.Burgett@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Burgett) writes:

> Is F-Prot a commercial virus scanner or shareware like McAfee's?  

Well, actually, I think it's better than McAfee by a wide margin....
Not just "like" it.   :-)

> If it is shareware, is there an FTP site where it can be gotten and 
> do you know the TCP/IP address by chance?  Thanks.

I get it from uunet, in the simtel20 mirror, I think it's under the
msdos/trojanpro directory (I have a script I run when I need to pick
up the latest version, so I don't have the path memorized). Look
for a file called fp206a.zip or similar, where 206a == version 2.06a.

Highly recommended.

Gary Heston, at home....
gary@cdthq.uucp
Newsgroups: hsv.general,ingr.general