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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:27:12 EST
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: SAYBABYSAYBABY!!!!!

REALLY  Primus does rock!!, But as they say in the retail world-"Presentation i
s everything" I cant see how a soul driven act like Primus could end up with a
bunch of souless,techno-whimp,has beens, like Rush--(let the flames fly)--reall
y --I have program for the amiga that plays Neil Peart chops- sounds just like
him!! Also, I would suggest that all Rush fans check out a band from Vermont ca
lled PHISH They are a 4 piece unit that  plays some of the most compositionally
complex music I have ever heard, AND--this will be a new one for Rush fans-----
THEY IMPROVISE---not like stoned Grateful Dead mixolydian bullshitting--but bea
utiful,melodic improvisation-every member of the band is a trained virtuoso.
Their new CD comes out this week on a major label-check it out-Theis fans are c
ool to -goto rec.music.phish--they fill the void left in tech-rock since Spirit
 of the Radio. EEB
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From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: kids?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:49:17 GMT


Would have thought this was in the FAQ, but maybe not. Anyway,
Alex has a son, according to his comments in the November(?) issue
of Guitar Player (sorry, that's November 1991.). Anyone know
if Alex's son is the kid on the cover of Roll the Bones? (I *think*
Ged might have mentioned this on Rockline, but I'm not sure...)
Frank Sellin
==============
"Harry -- it sucks."
   -Tom, Stephen Chapin
==============
From: faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shane P Faulkner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: re: kids
Date: 8 Nov 92 17:55:16 GMT
Organization: UB

Geddy: has a son Julian.  He's about 12-14.

Alex has two sons: Justin and Adrian.  Justin is about 20-21.  Adrian is
younger.  Justin was interviewed on Q107 (Toronto) about a year ago, and
he vividly remembers being at Le Studio when Neil's drums were recorded out
on the lake for "The Analog Kid".  Justin also mentioned that this is his
favorite Rush song.

Neil: has at least one daughter.  On the "Rush: profiled" disc, which many
radio stations played as a Rush interview (ie. they had one of their DJ's
ask the pre-determined questions, then they play the CD), Neil talks about
the inspiration for "Chain Lightning".   He was out on a boat with his daughter
looking up at the sky at night.

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From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu ( )
Subject: Re: If you could only buy 1 Rush CD(s)???
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:53:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162624.8321@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Hatz) writes:
>With the Xmas shopping season approaching, I was hoping for a recommendation
>for the best COLLECTION of Rush tunes.  Hence the header of if you were to buy
>only 1 CD or collection, which would it be?  Thanks!

I would recommend Chronicles.  It has approx. 2 songs from each album
excluding Roll The Bones.  By listening to this, you can get a pretty
good idea which other albums you might want to buy.

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	  There's unknown tools for World War III.
     Einstein said "We'll use rocks on the other side".
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From: wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
Subject: Xanadu or Zanadu
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:37:23 GMT

Last week I was taping some of my favorite Rush songs for my
girlfriend who wanted some really good travel music.  I was
debating on whether to give her the A Farewell to Kings version
of Xanadu or the Exit Stage Left version.  That's when I
noticed that the spellings were different on the two albums.  I
assumed that the spelling Xanadu on the forementioned album is
correct because it came out first, but then I could be wrong.
So which one is it Xanadu or Zanadu?


                                       Bill

The sleep is still in my eyes, the dream is still in my head.
I heave a sigh and sadly smile, and lie awhile in bed.
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From: ghost@next12csc.wam.umd.edu (.)
Subject: Re: by-tor
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:34:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.063821.13895@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>  
dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) writes:
> Wow!  ghost@wam.umd.edu typed...
> > 
> > WHERE IS THEEE FAQ,PLEASE?
> > 
> 
> It gets posted automatically on the 2nd & 4th Sunday of each month to
> alt.music.rush and TNMS.  It is also available via anonymous ftp at
> syrinx.umd.edu if you can't wait until the next posting.
> 
> -- 
> dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu                                              Dan  
Delany
>    "Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited  
love."
>      -- Charlie Brown


thanx, Chuck! (oops!..Charlie Brown :)   )
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Freewill
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:39:33 GMT

	As the person who started this thread by being a smart ass and
correcting someone who misquoted the lyric sheet (as for my basis, it was
the file 07.pw on syrinx.umd.edu), I would like to end it, by saying that 
we all have Freewill, and the song, and the various "lyrics" to it may be
understood as an exercise in Freewill.  Many others have stated that what
Geddy sang, and what Neil wrote are obviously different, and that may have
been a planned expression of Freewill.  
<cka52397 steps off the soapbox>

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From: Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@among.gis.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: If you could only buy 1 Rush CD(s)???
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:27:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162624.8321@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Hatz) writes:
>With the Xmas shopping season approaching, I was hoping for a recommendation
>for the best COLLECTION of Rush tunes.  Hence the header of if you were to buy
>only 1 CD or collection, which would it be?  Thanks!

Power Windows.

--
Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@among.gis.psu.edu>
"Blame is better to give than receive."  --  Neil Peart, 1980
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From: herrage@crchh451.bnr.ca (Robert Herrage)
Subject: Re: If you could only buy 1 Rush CD(s)???
Reply-To: herrage@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:54:42 GMT

My choice would definitely be "Hold Your Fire".

Rob
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: srf6200@summa.tamu.edu (Steven R. Fennell)
Subject: Re: Hemispheres
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Meltdown Productions, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:14:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov05.191723.16245@news.mentorg.com>, gam@sun_jimh.mentorg.com (Gary Merrick) writes...
>Does anybody else think La Villa Strangiato is one of the most
>jammin' songs they've ever done? I'd enjoy hearing more "excercises
>in self indulgence." I'd also love for Rush to come out with another
>album with a theme to it, like 2112, CoS, Hemispheres, etc. What's
>that called, anyway? Is that a "concept album"? Why don't they do
>them any more?

They don't do them anymore because if they did, no one would take them 
seriously (except maybe die-hard fans).  That concept of fantasy, sci-fi, 
mysticism, whatever you call it that forms the basis of those albums is old 
stuff.  It would be like Rush dressing up in their old gowns, bell-bottoms, 
high heels, and long-hair again.  It's out of style.  As you wouldn't ask Led 
Zepplin to get together again (minus Bonzo) to "recreate" their magic, neither 
would you ask Rush to do the same.  It's passe...

Steve Fennell
srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
From: abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: How do you post?
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:42:55 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <BxM6D5.IwF@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> wilsonjc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (John Wilson) writes:
>	Could anyone tell me the address for alt.music.rush.  The only
>way I know is to post followups like this.  Any help would be appreciated.
>Also, "Where's My Thing" on RTB is listed as part 4 of "Ganster of Boats"
>Trilogy, could anyone tell me what songs are the first 3 parts? Thanks
>John
>
Well I don't know how you do it but I just use <SHIFT> F or just f
as I am reading news.

As for "part four of a trilogy" there is no such thing.  the prefix tri-
means three! The whole thing is a spoof! it's supposed to be funny :-)

Ganster of Boats is also a Joke, Geddy and Alex like to tease Neil,
they tell him that if he dosen't come up with a name for a song that they are
going to call it "Ganster of Boats"

;-0
-- 
Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
       Sorry if I sound stupid I just don't have my FAQ's straight         
        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
                      abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
                      abrahams@plains           (BITNET)
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From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: Losing It
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:05:35 GMT

In article <uslave.721544223@mcl> uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!) writes:
>In <92315.134752IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (the DM) writes:
>
>>It should be noted that while talking about this song that if (as I
>>believe most agree) it is about Hemmingway, that he wrote a book or
>>poem or something called the bell tolls (or something like that (thats
>>from an english major)) and he did commit suicide when many would say
>>that he was past his prime.
>>    that sheds a whole new light on the lyrics......
>
>Yes, it was _For Whom The Bell Tolls_.  I don't know if he got the title
>from somewhere else, though, since someone else suggested an origin for
>that part of the song that was older than Hemingway.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and nicely, if you please), but I believe there's
a poem by John Donne (if memory serves me correctly, which the ripe
old age of mine may well fog up), either entitled or using something
close to the phrase "for whom the bell tolls."  In fact, there's 
some phrase I remember, "Do not ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls
for thee."

Which was about the *only* attention I ever paid in senior year
high school AP English, aside from reading Xanadu and the Rime 
of the Ancient Mariner in one of the textbooks in the room that 
we never used...(hey, the teacher was a raging b*tch. =)  )

Frank Sellin
==============
"And as you join the Good Ship Earth
 and you mingle with the dust
 Be sure to leave your underpants
 with someone you can trust...
 
 Well, you better lick your fingers clean--
 I'll thank you all for that."
    --the Tull, Lick Your Fingers Clean
==============>
>
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From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu (Steven R. Fennell)
Subject:  Moving Pictures CD
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Meltdown Productions, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:36:00 GMT

I bought Moving Pictures on CD about 4 years ago.  I noticed at the time that 
the picture of Neil Peart was missing from the CD liner notes.  Is this the 
same for everyone else?  I was wondering because A) it appears on the LP, B) 
Neil is too important to leave out accidently, and C) there were re-releases 
of all the Rush CDs with new printing on the CD itself.  Did they include the 
picture in these new releases?  If so, I will shell out another ten bucks to 
get it again, but I'd rather not otherwise.

On another note, I have been interested for a long time in seeing some Rush 
albums on gold disc.  I've called and written the company that makes them, but 
gotten no response.  If anyone else is interested, you can call or write:

	Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab
	P.O. Box 750577
	Petaluma, CA 94975-0577
	(800) 423-5759

If they get enough requests, maybe they'll do it.  I'm most interested in 
having Moving Pictures on gold disc, but then Hemispheres probably needs the 
most cleaning up of all.

Steve Fennell
srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush's Worst Song
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:33:10 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BxKLo9.Hvp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:
>mcarey@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (M A Carey) writes:

>>Well, my choice for Rush's worst is 'Superconductor' yucccck.  

> WHAT?!?!?!

> An excellent song.  I am a fan of Rush songs with a lot of energy and this
> ones fits that group.  This song is excellent live.  The end is so upbeat 
> and it just blows me away.  It's also obvious (at the concert) that the
> boyz love playing that song too.

I have to agree with you about the live version. On the album the song
doesn't do much for me, mainly because of the way it's played as opposed
to the way it's written. The band does a much better interpretation,
IMHO, live; the main difference is the phrasing. It's played very
"straight" on the album (sort of the Herbert von Karajan version if
that means anything to you out there) while it has much more life (sort
of the Leonard Bernstein version) live. I've noticed this about other
songs too, like "Force Ten" (though I like the studio version of F10
too). In the case of F10 the recognition of the power of the forces of
nature seems much more strong. In the case of "Superconductor" there
is much more sarcasm :)


Gregg

-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                "You may _not_ touch my monkey" -Dieter
From: slj1k@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: How do you post?
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:03:03 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <BxM6D5.IwF@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, wilsonjc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (John Wilson) writes:
> 	Could anyone tell me the address for alt.music.rush.  The only
> way I know is to post followups like this.  Any help would be appreciated.
> Also, "Where's My Thing" on RTB is listed as part 4 of "Ganster of Boats"
> Trilogy, could anyone tell me what songs are the first 3 parts? Thanks
> John
> 

	check the FAQ, frosh
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From: aru@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sri Ramkrishna)
Subject: Re: Rush's Worst Song
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:15:14 GMT

In article <0f0bqjy00WBLE2emlS@andrew.cmu.edu> "Jonathan T. Moore" <jmci+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>My vote would probably have to be "Take Youself a Friend" from _Rush_.

Yes!  This is definitely the worse song ever.  Talking about stale lyrics,
and just really uninspired playing.
	
	sri

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From: abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson)
Subject: Re: kids?
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:23:17 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <BxDFy1.HK4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod) writes:
>abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson) writes:
>
>>In article <BxBFot.G6z@unccsun.uncc.edu> jagrizza@uncc.edu writes:
>>>I checked the FAQ, and didn't see this anywhere....
>>>
>>>do Geddy/Alex/Niel have any kids?  or, for that matter, are any of them married??
>>>
>>>just curious..
>
>>All three are married. If they still are I don't know but I'm sure they are!
>>In fact it's Geddys kid (I can't remember his name) who is in the Distant 
>>Early Warning video.  B-Man talks about their wives and things in "Visions".
>
>>-- 
>>Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
>>      If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice! -RUSH         
>>        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
>> e-mail to:           abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
>>                      abrahams@plains.BITNET    (BITNET)
>
>Also, Neil has a daughter -- listen to Chain Lightning.

Not wanting to sound ignorant but how do you get that out of Chain Lightning
(Is that who he is talking about in the song, his daughter ?)
-- 
Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
      If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice! -RUSH         
        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
 e-mail to:           abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
                      abrahams@plains.BITNET    (BITNET)
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Hemispheres
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:45:49 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <Nov06.052238.29171@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> hurben@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Hurben) writes:
>In article <1992Nov05.191723.16245@news.mentorg.com> gam@sun_jimh.mentorg.com (Gary Merrick) writes:


>>the lyrics. Does anybody know what, if anything, influenced Neil
>>on such an interesting concept?

Yes, it was a speculative book (which I possess, being lucky enough to
find it second(or perhaps fiftieth) hand for about $.25) by a guy
named Adam Smith (really!) entitled _Powers of Mind_. It was published
in 1975, and its second section is entitled "Hemispheres". I forget 
where I first read Neil saying this. Anyway, it's a pretty amusing 
book. One reviewer says: Adam Smith has tried everything, knows
everything and everybody, and has read everything... And you know
that the world is the way he tells you it is. A quote from the
jacket: [Adam Smith] talks with Baba Ram Dass, Swami Muktananda
[BTW, Rob I think this is the word that's so hard to understand
in that 1980 interview you transcribed during the atheism thread],
Carlos Castaneda, John Lilly, and other heads of inner space.

In case anyone wants to do an ISBN search in their local library
the ISBN is 0-345-27655-8 

>Well, at the risk of pissing off the Anti-Rand people in the group, it is
>POSSIBLE that Neil got it from her essay "Apollo and Dionysus," although I for
>one doubt it because to Rand Apollo represents good while Dionysus is 'bad.'
>Since Neil is (or was) a fan of her works, it is possible.

Boy am I pissed! :)

>-Mike Hurben      "There is no music without ideology." - Dmitri Shostakovich

Absolutely, even if the ideology is the no-ideology ideology.

Gregg

-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                "You may _not_ touch my monkey" -Dieter
From: slj1k@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: If you could only buy 1 Rush CD(s)???
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:50:05 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov10.162624.8321@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mhatz@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Hatz) writes:
> With the Xmas shopping season approaching, I was hoping for a recommendation
> for the best COLLECTION of Rush tunes...(deleted to save bandwidth)

	well that's a hard one

	for a collection, i would go out RIGHT NOW and buy _Exit...Stage Left_
	
	for one recording, go buy _2112_ if you're interested in older stuff, 
	or _Power Windows_ if you like their newer stuff

        then, work real hard and after x-mas you can go and buy the whole
	discography (excluding _Chronicles_ - you need the entire albums),
	because choosing one rush album over another is not only unethical, 
	but pretty damned stupid (no flame intended, just a fact).


Mark L. Reece SLJ1K@CC.USU.EDU + ``... and the trees are all kept equal with 
hatchet, axe and saw.'' - The professor on the drum kit, Neil Peart. 
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From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Subject: Other bands...
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:51:35 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

I would have to say:
Boston
Toto
The POLICE
Scorpions
Steve Vai
Stu Hamm
Chick Corea & electric Band
Van Walen
New kids
^^^^^ oops typo sorry
Yes
Dream Theatre (just got and I like it)
genesis
Conway Twitty
^^^^^ oops another typo
Fates Warning
BTO

enuff already I know..

Also, whoever wrote about at what time during Rivendell they fall
asleep, for me it is about :48. 

Later-
Chris
From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Xanadu or Zanadu
Date: 12 Nov 1992 22:18:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, raford@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Robert Ford) says:

>  You must buy your albums in strange places....In my collection on both
>A farewell to Kings and Exit...Stage Left, the spelling is Xanadu.

   Well, my cassette copy of E...SL has the spelling "Zanadu" which I
always assumed was due to some boneheaded graphic artist at Mercury
who couldn't spell.
   As for CDs, perhaps they corrected the spelling before release.
Since I don't have E...SL on disc yet, I can't comment.

		-EMeyer

-- 
"Unstable condition--a symptom of life       | Eric A. Meyer (eam3@po.CWRU.edu)
 In mental and environmental change          |  Alumnus,  Beta Nu of Theta Chi
 Atmospheric disturbance--the feverish flux  |---------------------------------
 Of human interface and interchange-"  -N.P. |    "What do you think, sirs?"