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From: Fabrizio Sebastiani <fabrizio@iei.pi.cnr.it>
Subject: Re: climbing skin attachment
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A701FB7481070363@mac-sebastiani.iei.pi.cnr.it>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 14 Oct 92 20: 29:40 GMT
Organization: Italian National Council of Research
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:28:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.220513.27758@u.washington.edu> David Veale,
davin@hardy.u.washington.edu writes:

>Has anyone out there ever tried the buckle and webbing climbing skin
>attachment system sold by Mountaineering Equipment Co-Op in Canada?  I'm
>currently using the standard rubber tip attatchment system which works
>very well, but seems to wear out quickly.
>	Any comments, stories, etc. greatly appreciated.
>
>					-Dave

Let me get it straight: are you speaking of non-self-adhesive climbing
skins that have to be "harnessed" to the skis by means of belts and
straps instead of being #attached# to the sole?  These skins are the kind
that was used before the self-adhesive kind was invented; I have tried
them once six years ago (well, not the ones from the Canadian Coop, but
some similar kind), and I do not miss them at all.  The glue is a far
superior system.

Fabrizio

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From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: "Ski Mountaineering" (?) advice wanted.
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:49:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <26791@castle.ed.ac.uk> W.Warburton@ed.ac.uk writes:
> What I would like to know is how much I need to learn & what equipment
>would be necessary to combine walking & skiing in winter. Essentially
>I am considering climbing Scottish mountains & skiing back down them
>but I do not know how ambitious this is, or how to find out.

Ah, ski-mountaineering -- a wonderful sport.  You buy lots of expensive
gear, drive for hours, slog for hours carrying said heavy gear to the top
of a run, discover conditions are less than ideal (frequently wind crust),
then reverse slog your way back down, frequently falling and trying to
get back up in deep crusted snow with a heavy pack on.  On the rare occasion
that you actually find good powder snow, it is likely to slide and kill you.

Become a doctor instead.  Society will respect you, and you'll live longer.

-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Mad River Glen
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:11:15 GMT

	I've lived in Vermont all of my life, and I've skied at several areas,
yet one that I've wanted to get to for quite some time is Mad River Glen...
I've heard that they have some good expert terrain, and I would like to hear
from any expert skiers who have been there... How hard is it? How much
terrain do they have? Is it really more challenging than anywhere else in Vt?

						Todd S.
From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Water really: MAN MADE SNOW
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:48:20 GMT
Organization: What, me? Organized?

In rec.skiing, eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:

> Glen might ask the guys at Squaw about the latest in snow making 
> technology.

 Yeah, I've heard about the "add some bacteria" technique and I understand
 that it's been tested, but I have no idea whether or not anybody is
 doing it on a standard basis. I'll check with the guys at Squaw next
 time I'm up there (maybe this weekend).

 ..glen
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: davis@lugg.utah.edu (Darrell R. Davis)
Subject: Re: Telemark skis
Organization: College of Science, University of Utah
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:58:21


on Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:21:28 GMT,
bannan@convex.com (Bill Bannan) said:

>>     Has anyone out there in Net-land seen anything new & exciting in Telemark
>>     Equipment for this year? Specificly I'm looking for skis that have the 
>>     manuverability & stability that my Cirques have, yet hold an edge on ice 
>>     which the Cirques definitely do not (chatter chatter chatter).


I have just the ticket, although you could hardly call them new.  A
pair of 195 cm Dynastar Omeglass II's.  If you want something new I
have been thinking that one of the "Extreme" skis would make good
Tele's.  These are generally a little softer in the tip than a slalom
ski, but pretty quick.

This isn't a purist attitude, but I already cheat so bad with my Asolo
Extreme Racers that a real ski completes the package.

I have skied the Cirques and really like them, but can't relate to the
price. 


--------------------------------------------------------------
 
 Darrell R. Davis 
 Medicinal Chemistry 
 University of Utah 
  
--------------------------------------------------------------
From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:00:09 GMT
Subject: rec.skiing FAQ 07/13
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Telemark skis
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 07:16:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.005819.5614@u.washington.edu>
davin@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Veale) writes:
>There's really no need; we generally have more fun than any lift-slave can
>possibly comprehend.  And for you hardy (read close minded & ignorant)
>downhillers who carry your skis into the backcountry, just try it for a
>few miles in nice deep, untracked powder.  Or then again, you could go out
>and buy some *real* ski gear.

Not just a question of gear, but one of skill.
Keep the pure downhillers at the resorts.  They are fine skiers, simply fine!
I won't say that you need to lock heels as Wayne asserts, similar
arguments are made aboout ski lengths (sure shorter lengths are quicker
and in some cases more responsive, but you lose floation).
I select gear on the basis of the objective, length of trip time, etc.
What I find most amusing are the "alpine" snowboard trips, and they do
exist.  The point is to raise one's skill.  It's not the gear.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
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			Books on or by Benjamin Whorf

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett)
Subject: Snowshoe in December?
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:58:05 GMT


I am timidly poking my nose out into this group.....Don't hurt me, please,
it's my first time....8-) (I'm also a new skiier - first trip last year.
I swore then, I swore then that someday, someday, I would live in the 
Rockies...but that's later)


I've seen a lot of
1)East-West bashing &
2)Complaint's about snowmakers

so I'm kinda scared to ask this query BUT

The wife and I have a trip planned to Snowshoe, WV in December. Anybody
been there that early in the season before? reckon there'll be snow?

Oh - re:"Snowmaking while people are skiing" - skiied 'under the guns'
and 'under the lights' at Sugar, at night, and *that* was - I reckon the
only word is "surrealistic". !WOW SKI WOW!

jim p.
-- 
Jim Puckett    NTI    puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov     
Madison,AL (205)461-4922  
i need to ask myself.....
***********         Would I rather be right, or happy?         ***********
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: bassuk@stein.u.washington.edu (James Bassuk)
Subject: Re: Sugarloaf, Maine
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:52:57 GMT

danube@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Dan Koller*) writes:

>     I've been thinking about skiing at Sugarloaf, Maine this year but
>I don't know much about it.  Can someone fill me in on details?  Is it
>really possible to see the Atlantic Ocean from the top?  Is it really
>as cold as someone else told me?

No to Q#1.  However, we did see the ocean from our plane which we
landed at Carabasnett Valley airport.  Sugarloaf picked us up and,
after extracting our VISA numbers at the Registration office, we
were delivered to our slopeside condo which was loaded. 2 bdrm,
2 bath with full kitchen/fireplace/cable etc.  So, for a party of
4 the cost of  $53 (includes tax) per person got us lodging, lift
ticket and excellent group lesson.  We stayed 4 days (tues-fri).
We got hit for high food prices at the local market at the base, but
hey, we had to keep our gross weight down in the plane.

>    I'm especially interested in cheap lodging, preferably a private
>house on the slopes, or a Condo that can hold up to 10 people.  Private
>(i.e. non ski area associated) realtors are prefered since we'd like 
>to keep the cost down.  This would be a weekend or extended weekend
>trip.  Any and all such information would be appreciated.
>    Thanks.
>						Danube


Lots of slopeside houses etc. loaded with outdoor jacuzzi -- looked
real nice from chair.  Call 1-800-the-loaf for all details.  We went
first week in March, 1991.

Bring your own food/beverages and enjoy the village at the base.  You
also get  pass to gym/pool/spa etc.

Have a great time.  Dress warm if you are worried about cold!




********************************************************

   Jim Bassuk, Ph.D.
   Dept. Biological Structure, Univ. of Washington
   NetworkAddress:  Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu  

   'Did I say what I meant or did I mean what I said?'

********************************************************


p
From: Gen.M.Kanai@dartmouth.edu (Gen M. Kanai)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: College Snowboard Teams
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:04:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct14.210440.6425
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Dartmouth does not have a team per se, but our club is very active. 
Many members race and do quite well.  Where does BU board?  We spend
most of our time at the Dartmouth Skiway, but we often go to Okemo or
Killington.

Peace.
From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Man made snow (SUCKS)
Date: 9 Oct 1992 12:30:43 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grendle.think.com

In article <1992Oct9.025404.17315@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.044119.27468@trl.oz.au>, harsant@headplant.trl.OZ.AU (Dave Harsant) writes:
|> 
|> >>MORE WATER PER UNIT VOLUME???  SINCE SNOW IS FROZEN WATER I'D GUESS THAT YOU
|> >>ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT IT PACKS DOWN EASIER.... YUP! Frozen water is frozen
|> >>water and it may be different on the ground, but that is what snow is made
|> >
|> >Due to the fact that snow falls as a 3 dimensional crystal, the density
|> >of the snow can be calculated by measuring the volume of the snow, then
|> >melting it and measuring the volume of the water (or simply weighing it
|> >and calculating the vol/vol density).  Heavy snow is around 10-15% water
|> >by volume, while very light powder is around 5%. As snow sits on the ground,
|> >the crystals change, and so does the character of the snow.
|> >
|> >--
|> >Dave Harsant,
|> >Telecom Australia Research Laboratories  |  d.harsant@trl.oz.au
|> 
|> The character may change a shitload, but it is still water... not just 5-15%
|> but damn near 100%....SURE it may be more or less dense (Like some people who
|> post on this group) but no matter how many skiers pack it down, it just gets
|> to be a denser form of water.... and on the same principle, no matter how
|> many times someone from New Jersey gets run over on a trail... he/she is still
|> from New Jersey...I hope that this example helps create a clearer picture 4 U.
|> 
|> 								Todd S.
|> 

O.K. - One more time....<Thick Skull Blaster ON>

Yes water is 100% water but SNOW is not 100% water PER UNIT VOLUME OF SNOW.  
If you melt one cubic foot of natural snow, one cubic foot of man mande snow,
and one cubic foot of ice, you will yield three different amounts of water.
THIS was the point of my original post!  Man made snow contains more water than
natural snow fora given volume of SNOW.  When it melts during the day (from 
use, sun, etc.) it yields more water which flows into the snow below it and 
then re-freezes as a more solid object, ICE!

My original post was to point out that man made snow, while essential in the East,
is not desirable on all the trails.  It reacts differently to weather and ski traffic
and skis differently both when it new and after its been skied for a while.  Ski areas
should leave some of the trails to only be skied when there is adequate natural snow.


  
Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge MA
From: sjl@uknet.ac.uk (Sean.Leviseur)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Where to go in France...
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:28:42 GMT
Organization: UKnet

In article <1992Oct13.110043.2575@bristol.ac.uk> P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
...
>I've had a few mailed answers to this, and they all seem to recommend
>Chamonix.  I confess that the Porte du Soliel area is a bit more
>interesting to us, because we could probably arrange to get there by
>train rather than by air, which gets you an extra 2 days skiing on the
>holiday.

This season there should be a train from Calais to Chamonix, whether or
not it materialises is another thing. You will have to change at to the
narrow gauge train at Le Fayet for the last bit of the journey though.

>         On the other hand, it's a bit worrying that no-one has leaned
>towards it.  Is there something 'wrong' with the Porte du Soliel area,
>or is it just that no-one knows about it?

It can have problems with snow cover and the links are tenuous in places.
That said the links in the Chamonix valley are vitually non-existant,
but there are bus links between the resorts and these are covered on the
Mont Blanc pass (about 780ffr for 6 days last season), they are not very
fast though and can be packed!

The Mont Blanc valley is just nicer :-)

	sean
From: mhoyt@crchh47.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Michael Hoyt)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: MARKER M1 SC Bindings: Any opinions/thougts??
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:01:08 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

Does anyone have any thoughts or opinions on the new Marker M1 SC bindings.  In
short the SC is for Selective Control.  Apparently there is a little switch at
the front of the toe piece which allows you to "set" the travel resistence of
the toe piece.  Travel being that similar to Tyrolia's Free Flex.  There are
3 settings which range from no-travel for a hard edged ski with no bow to
maximum travel which allows the ski to bow more under the foot creating a 
softer ski.  

They say these bindings turn one pair of skis into three.  Are they worth $335.00!?
or are they just something new to break??

Mike
From: koichi@unixg.ubc.ca (Koichi J Kishimoto)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: MAN MADE SNOW
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:08:40 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca


eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) wrote:

>Snow + latent heat of melting = air + water + a condensation nucleus
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I seem to recall reading something about using a ?bacteria? of some
kind as the nucleus. It could be an urban legend. Does anyone know
if this is/was the case?

John Kishimoto
koichi@unixg.ubc.ca
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: College Snowboard Teams
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:44:27 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct14.210440.6425@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Gen.M.Kanai@dartmouth.edu (Gen M. Kanai) writes:
> Dartmouth does not have a team per se, but our club is very active. 
> Many members race and do quite well.  Where does BU board?  We spend
> most of our time at the Dartmouth Skiway, but we often go to Okemo or
> Killington.
> 
> Peace.

In one of the snwoboarding mags, the recent issue talked about how
BU wants to compete with other North East schools and is holding
competitions this winter.
-- 

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: "Ski Mountaineering" (?) advice wanted.
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:27:40 GMT

Wayne wrote:
>|> Become a doctor instead.  Society will respect you, and you'll live longer.
In article <26878@castle.ed.ac.uk> W.Warburton@ed.ac.uk writes:
> Ah yes, but I don't want it's respect and there wouldn't be any point!

Yes, but doctors also get days off (replace golf with ski mountaineering).
Doctors also get precedence on climbing expeditions to far off places
like Nepal.  You can travel for FREE in many cases.
But you also get other perks.

If you are familiar with Lowe Alpine Products, Jeff Lowe has a cousin, George,
who was asked, "Does your party have a doctor?" to which he answered:
"Er?  I have a PhD in physics...?"  [UofUT]  "Mark, one doctor."

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			Imhof, Cartographic Relief Presentation
			Books on or by Benjamin Whorf
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: sand skiing (was racks)
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 17:13:55 GMT

In article <122930191@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> bruno@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM
(Bruno Melli) writes:
>Bummer. I thought it was a new sport Californian came up with.

Well surf fishing is very popular in Pismo Beach where people go
sand skiing in CA in summer.

>Like trying to catch surfers, or riding a surf board with a harpoon... :-)

Like skeet surfing in some early incredibly, intentionally bad Val Kilmer
movie which tried to parody spy movies of old where some good guy saves
the girl from bad guys while invoking numerous sight gags and jokes on
period pieces movies at a time with one scene with a run on sentence that
ended with the characters looking at the audience?

Hey I saw some grey whales off the coast last week, where's the Harpoon?

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Acting Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			Imhof, Cartographic Relief Presentation
			Books on or by Benjamin Whorf
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: twm3@world.std.com (Thomas W Moore)
Subject: Re: Best spots to ski in Northeast??
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:45:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.191306.15262@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

>I'M NOT SAYING THAT CROWDS ARE GOOD, BUT DID YOU EVER STOP AND THINK THAT MAYBE
>THE REASON SUNDAY RIVER ATTRACTS LESS PEOPLE IS THAT LESS PEOPLE FIND IT TO BE
>ATTRACTIVE? WHY WOULD SOO MANY PEOPLE GO TO SOMEWHERE (KILLINGTON) IF IT WASN'T
>ANY GOOD?
>
>							MAKES SENSE TO ME...
>							Todd S.

Todd,

With rational like that, you should strongly consider a job with IBM in
their marketing department.

-Tom

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From: jonw@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Jon Wade)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:38:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Colorado Skier - Trivia 2 - Who gets the most!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Greeley, CO
Newsgroups: rec.skiing


>	I won't give away the answer so soon, but in the movie, he
>spends the whole year skiing. Snow in the winter and water in the
>summer. The best scene from the summer stuff was water skiing an
>irrigation ditch pulled by a pickup truck. Enjoyable movie, don't
>watch more than once.
>					-Shaw

This scene actually involved the guy who invented the skurfer skurfing
behind a surburban along an irrigation ditch in Weld County, Colorado.

jonw
"Going mountain biking in MOAB this weekend to get in shape for skiing"
Snow in the mountains last night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: bonn@networx.com (David Bonn)
Subject: Re: Crosscountry/Backcountry skiing [LONG]
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:54:20 GMT

byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes) writes:
> I have two pairs of Fischer E99s.  One is a pair of 210cm and is about 10
> years old and is extremely soft (broken-down), even through the "kicker"
> section.  The other is only 3 years old, 215cm and is still nice and stiff.
> The new skis climb *much* better than the old ones!

> Also, when I've tried single cambered skis, they never climb as well as a
> double-cambered ski.

Do the skis that don't climb as well slip backwards, or do they have less
glide?  The second question is are you using wax or skins?

If you are using wax and the skis that don't climb as well are slipping, then
the likely problem is that the gripwax is wearing off more quickly.  The
solution is to put on more or stickier wax.  Experimentation with basebinders
might also help.

If you are using wax and the skis just don't glide as well, you are obviously
taking a rather gentle approach to the top of whatever you are descending.
Also, most single-cambered skis don't track as well as double-cambered skis,
because most single-cambered skis have more sidecut (which helps turning, but
makes the skis want to turn all the time) and most double-cambered skis have
a thin groove down the middle which helps them run straight.

If you are using skins, probably the poor tracking of single-cambered skis
is making your ascent less efficient than single-cambered skis.

In backcountry situations, I only use gripwax on long flattish sections, gentle
rolling terrain, or when my skins aren't working.  Since most stuff that is
interesting to ski down requires skins to efficiently climb, I use skins 90%
of the time.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: SALOMON BOOTS
Reply-To: st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:06:22 GMT

	Has anyone out there tried the new overlap boots from Solomon?  I've
heard that they are nice (although a bit stiff for my taste).  I like their
skis, boots, bindings, of the past, but haven't heard much about these (other
than in their advertisements).

							Todd S.
From: haskins@mipps.myapc.com (Robert D. Haskins)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Sugarloaf/USA
Summary: Snowmaking now on the Snowfields
Keywords: skiing, Maine
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:07:18 GMT
Organization: Maine Yankee, Wiscasset, Maine  USA

For those who ski in the Northeastern US:

I have just been informed by someone who works at Sugarloaf/USA that snowmaking
has been installed on the Snowfields!!

Now if they only can find a way to slow the wind down to keep the snow up there
we'd be all set!