From: knguyen@emr1.emr.ca (Kim Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Is communism immoral? (was Re: Did We Lose?)
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:47:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.045757.18690@m.cs.uiuc.edu> drk@melodian.cs.uiuc.edu (Dave Kohr) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.170417.14437@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com
>(Larry Billings) writes:
>>How in the H*** can you say that SVN chose Communism?  It was forced on
>>them by the military might of the North.  SVN had fought for, what was it,
>>twenty years before the US got involved.
>>
>>Larry Billings
>
>Time for a reality check.  SVN did not *exist* 20 years before the US "got
>involved", the US was very much involved *before* it was created (due to
>the partitioning of the country in, I think, 1954).  Remember which foreign
>"non-combatant" power was paying for such a large part of the French phase
>of the war?
>
>As for communism being "forced on [SVN] by the military might of the
>North", the NLF (composed mostly of Southerners, mind you, although its
>highest level of leadership was ultimately in Hanoi) had sufficient
>*political* support in the South by the late 1950's that they controlled
>most of the countryside (remember that the US cancelled the planned
>elections [in 1956?], because it was believed that Ho would win).  The NLF
>did not officially adopt violent means of resistance against the GVN until
>I think 1959, and then only in response to attacks against their membership
>by the ARVN.
>
  >I apologize in advance if I was off by a few years on some of the dates
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The reason for communist and its umbrella (Viet Minh) to use the North as a
strategic point is that the area is so close to suppliers. NVN must be
liberated first and is used, for many years later, as a spring to swallow
the rest.
If you read Karnow's book carefully, under Viet Minh umbrella (gathering of
South nationlists and camouflaged communists), the front has spread all over
from South to North. I mean *camouflaged* to point out that communists never
identified themselves communists among Viet Minh guerillas. From that view,
you will regcognize that the *political support* is not the support for
communist but support for patriotic people. Ho took the power and set up
the first government in which there were many posts kept by non-communist
members. In the second move, when knowing that it was time not to hide his
status, he started to single out these non-communist members in his cabinet.
In a harmonious plan, communist southerners in Viet Minh has started to
cleanse this body. Killing between old friends happened everywhere in the
South. That is the starting point of another lie.
My father-in-law who has been a mathematics graduate from Sorbonne University
(France) had joined Viet Minh to fight French when he came home in Rach Gia
in around 1945-1950. He is a commander of the group in his province. He told
me that he joined original Viet Minh which are all patriotic people. He knows
that there are communist people in VM and is not comfortable with these guys.
After Viet Minh cleansed the movement with *blood hands*, he became so
frustrated that he left communist VM in ealy '50s. These complicated things
cannot be observed by any observers outside.
Election ? Every body knows that SVN is the next target of Ho who has planted
seeds in the South with new VM. In that turmoil, election does not reflect
what people really want. 


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