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From: afcanav@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Subject: Re: Roy Orbison's New Song
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 17 Apr 1992 08:49 EST  

In article <1992Apr17.060359.24536@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, jgc57708@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (just call me john) writes...
>jsw21124@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph S. Walker) writes:
> 
>>I have two questions about the new Roy Orbison song that's getting a lot of
>>play on MTV.  First, I seem to remember the song.  Has somebody done it
>>before?  Could it have been Cyndi Lauper, or is my memory playing tricks on
>>me?  Oh, I probably should have mentioned that the song is "I Drove All Night."
> 

Yes, it is a version of the song Cyndi sang a few years ago, (she didn't 
write it), and it was one of the last recordings that Roy did before his 
death. His was definately recorded after her version.


>>Second, I went to a couple of record stores the other day and couldn't find
>>the album.  They said on MTV that it's a "various artists" kind of thing put
>>out by Nintendo.  Do I have to go to a toy store to get it?  Has anybody bought
>>it?  What else is on it?

I didn't see anything else on it that appealed to me, and I saw it at a 
regular mall record store, under Nintendo, mixed in with the compilations.

The name of the album is something like Nintendo-the album: White Knuckle 
Smokin'

As for this response below, even with a smiley, I found no humor in this 
what so ever

> 
>first of all, let me tell you....roy orbison is DEAD  how is this supposed to
>be a new song?????? can you tell me that?  second of all, there is a reason
>this song doesnt sound modern...could it be that roy orbison wrote it long
>ago and it is just recently been re-released for some unknown reason..(at
>least to me)....all i know is hes been dead for a couple of years....have a
>nice day....=)

Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland
From: Wedge@cup.portal.com (Craig Teruo Matsumoto)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Patterns of popularity (a psychological question)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:56:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Apr9.183622.21332@acsu.buffalo.edu>

In article <1992Apr7.163907.24172@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, sross@cdc001.austin
.ibm.com (Stacey Ross) writes...
> 
>Why is there a natural tendency for vehement fans of a band to hate "the newes
t
>album" of that band? In case that's not clear, let's take as a primary example


For me, what happens is that a band loses whatever qualities made it stand
out in my mind as it fades more into the mainstream.  While this is not
necessarily good or bad in itself, the bottom line is that the band begins
to sound less special and more bland.

This is something that should actually be expected, because  1) Let's face it,
some bands only have one or two good ideas in them, beyond which they're
as mediocre as anybody else, and  2) There is a natural mellowing process
that goes with age, which takes the "edge" off of some artists' work over 
time.

My "perfect example" is The Call.  With their first albums, they really
won me over with their mix of "alternative rock" (define as you will) and
straight-ahead (read: normal) rock 'n' roll.  But then out comes _Let the
Day Begin_.  I bought it, played it, hated it.  Suddenly, The Call sounded
just like everybody else on the radio...and I don't happen to *like* 
everybody else on the radio!

I turned away from them not because they were popular, not because they'd
gone "commercial," not because I was no longer the only person who'd heard
of them...but because their music lost the elements that made them attractive
to me in the first place.

In sum, bands don't always change because they're progressing.  Sometimes
they've just run out of tricks.

                                       -- Craig Matsumoto
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: Re: Country
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:10:29 CDT

>In article <1992Apr11.190343.14798@unvax.union.edu> budkee@unvax.union.edu (Eric Budke) writes:
>
>I'm sorry, but country has shown little or no evolution in the last 20 years.
>Rock n roll has changed a LOT. Country still sounds exactly the same, only now
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It has??? That depends on your definition of Rock n Roll I suppose.

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From: rone@chort.usc.edu (Ron A. Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Date: 13 Apr 1992 21:25:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Reply-To: rone@usc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: chort.usc.edu

In article <LAVONIUS.92Apr13200822@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> lavonius@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius) writes:
>
>This group will be unmoderated, and will be for the discussion of groups tha
>are labeled "hard rock" (i.e.: Guns N Roses, Motley Crue, Def Leppard,
Van Halen,
>et al.)
>   Any supporters?

Yes.

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From: afcanav@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Subject: Re: No Taste... (was Re: Def Leppard)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 13 Apr 1992 15:58 EST  

> 
>_Hysteria_ killed DL?  Please.
> 
>	1)	It was in the top 5 best selling hard rock albums of 
>		the decade.
>		(heard from "Top 100 of 1980-1990", WZOU, Boston MA
>	2)	There were SEVEN separate single releases from _Hysteria_
>		(the whole first side, and "Hysteria" from the 2nd)
>	3)	There could have been 3 or 4 more cuts released as singles
>		that would have done as well as the existing 7 singles.
>	4)	"Pour Some Sugar On Me" was the NUMBER ONE song of the 
>		decade 1980-1990 (according to the forementioned top 100 list)
> 
> Any questions?

YES!!!  I could accept that Pour Some Sugar On Me is in the Top 100 Rock 
songs of the 80's reluctantly, but THE NUMBER ONE SONG OF THE 80's???

Come on, its an ok song, but I can name many more songs that have much more 
staying power than that one. When was the last time that you heard that 
song? I haven't even heard it since the new album has been released as part 
of a two-fer Tuesday, or a block party triple play! and some radio station  
makes it the best of the whole decade? I would put it AT LEAST third ON THE 
ALBUM behind Animal & Hysteria!

OK, I'm done now. Any other comments??

Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland
From: v091rusj@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CONFUSION(MASS))
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: VH's "316"...
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:05:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <7APR199211554539@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI) writes...
>In article <1546@sdrc.COM>, wggabb@sdrc.COM (Rob Gabbard) writes...
>>From article <92087.090551BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>, by BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu:
>>> Does anyone know what the origin/meaning/significance of the number "316"is
>>> from the instrumental song of the same name off "For...Knowledge"???
>> 
>>March 16th was the birthdate of Eddie & Val's son Wolfgang.
>> 
> 
>maybe I should post this to alt.entertainment.tonite or alt.mtv.news , but:
> 
> 
>Does anybody know the marital status of the Van Halens? We were just 
>wondering last week if they had straightened out their alleged problems
	I was recently backstage with the band at the Auditorium in Buffalo, and
found out the rumors were nothing but rumors.  Furthermore, I saw Valerie on
David Letterman I think it was, and she didn't mention any problems.  She seemed
to think everything was just dandy.  She talked a lot about Wolfie and her
husband being of the same grain.  i.e.- they both play air guitar in their sleep
or something to that extent.  Hope this helps!

> 
>Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland
From: skinner@lab5.smcm.edu (William Skinner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Queens greatest  hits CD
Keywords: Queen CD
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:05:48 GMT


> Hello, I'm a new reader of this news group, so I'm not sure if anyone  
can help me. I'm looking for Queens Greatest Hits on CD. A friend of mine  
had it on tape and I loved it. I heard that it had been discontinued  
because they were going to remake it within the next couple years. If  
anyone knows of or has a copy that they are willing to get rid of, could  
you please e-mail me. My name is Ted and my e-mail address is 
skinner@oyster.smcm.edu

>>> Thanks,
       Ted
From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard molests small children! SLAYER RULZ!
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.223722.26714@seas.gwu.edu>, maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji) writes...
> 
>Although Slayer is satanic, they have VERY intelligent lyrics.
>Check out the song "Silent Scream," which is about abortion,
>"Expendable Youth," which is about gang wars, and "Skeletons of
>Society," which is about a post-nuclear war society.

Just because a group addresses certain current social issues, ills, 
injustices, etc., does not make them *intelligent* lyrics.  Beating people 
over the head with ideas is not intelligent - IMHO, good lyrics utilize 
metaphor and simile, and are therefore much more subtle.  This is 
intelligent because one must actually think about what is being said.  
Just saying something bluntly is not enough.

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From: sihd_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Dan Shimmyo)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Rush Rap (was Re: rush trivia tidbits)
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:09:35 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <8APR199213114290@zeus.tamu.edu> srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu writes:

>In article <92099.11022200124961@ysub.ysu.edu>, 00124961@ysub.ysu.edu writes...
>>If I had to guess, I'd say that it was Neil Peart.
>> 
>>Chris.

>My guess was Rupert Hine.  If you listen to the "Better off Dead" 
>soundtrack, which he produced, you can hear him sing...and it sounds a lot 
>like the rap.

Sounds like you're talking about the Rap on Roll the Bones.  Well, if you are,
Geddy Lee did the rap on it . I know because Neil Peart said so
on rockline a couple months ago. I was surprized because I thought it was
Neil.  BTW he used a Harmonizer to get that deep voice.
-Dan
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: thane@bluemoon.rn.com (Aron Gamman)
Subject: Re: No Taste... (was Re: Def Leppard)
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 14:07:53 EDT

sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka) writes:

> With no sense of true rock n' roll,
> becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:
> > 
> > Once again, the mighty legions of Def Leppard fans rise in support
> > of their favorite band. Why bother? I've heard the new album. Our
> > local stations have been playing little else. If you won't be 
> > disappointed by cheesy songs like "Make Love Like A Man" or
> > "Let's Get Rocked", then go out and waste $14 on the CD.
> > 
> > Sure, DL might be going in a new direction, but personally, I'd
> > rather see them regress to the days of High N Dry and On Through
> > The Night, the albums that got me into DL in the first place.
> > Hysteria killed DL for me. Adrenalized is the final nail in their
> > coffin.
> > 
> > --Don
> 
> _Hysteria_ killed DL?  Please.
> 
> 	1)	It was in the top 5 best selling hard rock albums of 
> 		the decade.
> 		(heard from "Top 100 of 1980-1990", WZOU, Boston MA
> 	2)	There were SEVEN separate single releases from _Hysteria_
> 		(the whole first side, and "Hysteria" from the 2nd)
> 	3)	There could have been 3 or 4 more cuts released as singles
> 		that would have done as well as the existing 7 singles.
> 	4)	"Pour Some Sugar On Me" was the NUMBER ONE song of the 
> 		decade 1980-1990 (according to the forementioned top 100 list)

 
He expresses his personal tastes and you quote back to him statistics. WHO 
CARES!
 
I personally think Def Leppard lost it with _Hysteria_. _Pyromania_ was an 
enjoyable enough album, but once I heard _Hysteria_ I could no longer 
listen to it.
 
I admit that when I first heard, "Pour Some Sugar On Me", I really thuoght 
it was a good tune. But after I had become sick of it, (way before it 
become the huge single) I then started hearing it on the radio and on MTV 
every half an hour. Grew to hate the song...
 
Sorry, sir, but if a twice as many copies of _Adrenilize_ are sold as 
_Hysteria_, it still won't make me like the band. Popularity does not mean 
quality to me.

 This is from
     thane@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: haravayj@unvax.union.edu (Joshua Haravay)
Subject: Re: the beatles
Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:12:14 GMT

u9236686@cc.uow.edu.au (Robert Carl Michael Svensson) writes:


>            i am interested in knowing what other people consider
> to be the best beatles album ... i personally lean towards
> 'rubber soul'  or 'revolver' although the white album
>  is very good it doesnt stimulate me.



>                         some 	joe.

That's a very tough question bu I have to think that Rubber Soul is their best. Rubber Soul had a very raw quality to it that makes it stand out over all the rest of the Beatles albums. Everything before RS was very cute but musically not very stimulating. Everything after Rubber Soul was very polished(sometimes by drugs). I think that this transitional album song for song is the best the Beatles ever wrote.  
P.S. I think that Sargent Pepper has to be considered but not very much.

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From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: The Ten Most Overrated Rock Bands
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:48:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.065550.1271@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes...
>[mucho deleted]  to even classify megadeth, queensryche and slaughter in the
>same paragraph shows quite clearly that you have no concept what you're
>talking about. not in the least. i wonder what you consider a good
>metal band to be...

How about one that doesn't exist at all?

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From: mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Mikael Eriksson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Aerosmith and the Beatles
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:01:56 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland


   Someone listed the top Beatles songs of all times.
   I'm not much of a fan personally, save for a few songs and some related solo
   projects(like the Wings' "Band on the Run"-increadible.)
   But, I'm really into the covers that Aerosmith has done of Beatles songs-
	   Come Together-from "Greatest Hits"(I think it was only on this.)
	   I'm Down-from Permanent Vacation.

Come Together can also be found on their Live Bootleg double album.
The album is mediocre, with a few highlights on, one of them being
this particular cover.
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From: iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ivan Moscoso)
Subject: Re: Lush concert dates??
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:37:10 GMT

menze@cs.arizona.edu (Ed Menze) writes:

>Does anyone have a list of tour dates for Lush or know if/when they're
>going to be visiting Phoenix in the near future?

>Thanks,

>Ed

Unless I'm extremely lucky, and they visit this 'cornfested' campus... can
anyone include any Chicago dates??

Or, if possible, maybe the whole thing... maybe this is the reason to drop
out of it all... and follow in monochrome.. but whichever: i heard that lush
is pretty decent in concert.. much truth in this?
--
-ivan
From: slckm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: "Wierd Al" (was: Lola Request)
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:38:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr6.083834.54217
Organization: Utah State University

In article <ktv4v8INNbo5@corvus.usc.edu>, rone@corvus.usc.edu (Man on a Mission) writes:
> In article <910427m.16@ace.acadiau.ca> 910427m@ace.acadiau.ca (JASON MATTHEW MC DONALD) writes:
> 
>>I truly cannot beleive it.  More Weird Al fans!!!  I haven't seen a post 
>>concerning him all year on any group.  He's overdue for a new album, don't 
>>you think?
> 
> Very much so. At least something like "Polka's Best Moments" or something like
> that. :-)
> 
	Well, he's certainly still working. I caught a live performance of 
	his on Comedy Central last year. He played a new polka medly which
	included Cradle Of Love, Enter Sandman, Ice Ice Baby, and a couple
	of others that I can't remember. Steve Jay and John Schwatrz (sp?)
	are still in the band, but I'm not sure if the guitar player was
	Jim West or not. Guess we'll have to wait for the album...

						Thom B
From: bd427@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David J. Babinsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:24:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.182425.2528
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


In a recent post it was stated:


Anyone and everybody go out and get the new Def Leppard
album, Adrenalize. It is one of the best discs that I have
heard in a loonnnggg time.

Mary
mohagin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu


ALL RIGHT MARY!  THE DISC CAN'T BE FULLY APPRECIATED UNLESS YOU
BUY IT AND LISTEN TO IT!  DON'T GO BY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS
BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN TOO MANY BAD STATEMENTS MADE ABOUT THE
NEW ALBUM.  GO OUT AND BUY IT----YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED.  

THANKS ONCE AGAIN, MARY.  IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT SOME 
PEOPLE REALLY DO HAVE SOME MUSICAL TASTE.  NOT LIKE RICK!
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From: zodiac@next11pg2.wam.umd.edu (Ken Lambert)
Subject: Re: Rush ?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:30:19 GMT

> First of all how can it be the fourth part of a trilogy.  I really don't  
> care about that though.
According to an interview I heard of Neil Peart (another trivia tid bit  
that most people know... sounds like 'ear' - P-ear-t) said that a trilogy  
(by definition I think) can have four parts and that most people don't  
realize this. I sure as heck didn't.

Tis all... ".... axe and saw..."

Ken
From: fssrk1@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Bootleg of natural selection
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:28:51 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I'm looking for a natural selection bootleg 
preferably their old material
or a live album
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: YESYEARS Question
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr16.133530.26736@njitgw.njit.edu>, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes...
>In article <1992Apr15.194632.3034@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>There was a push for ABWH to call themselves "Yes", but there were
>other problems than Squire's owning the name.  Mostly that the
>90125-Yes was already in existence.  Whether Squire personally owned
>it, the band comprised of Squire, Kay, Anderson, White, and Rabin did
>own it.

From what I am understand, Chris Squire and Alan White are the ones who
owns to the name "Yes", not the rest of band.

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