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From: mgum@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (MARK GUM)
Subject: INTERNET to X.400 address
Reply-To: mgum@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 04:01:17 GMT

Hello all:
  I have seen this posted several times but as of yet no reply posted.
I have access to INTERNET and would like to send mail to a friend who has
an X.400 address at Clorox.  
       The business card reads as:
                ADMD:   ATTMAIL
                PRMD:   CLOROX
                SURNAME: xxxxxxxxxx
                GIVEN NAME: xxxxxxxxx

(Name is removed to protect the guilty???)  Also is there a way to go the
other way X.400 to INTERNET.  Please respond to me at MGUM@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Thanks for your help.
  
**********************************************************
MARK GUM, CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, CHICO
MGUM@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
From: nauen@WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: E-mail to IBMx400 address
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:06:00 GMT

In <kedrbjC00YV7Q2H5IJ@andrew.cmu.edu> 
Gregory Daniel <gd2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> asks

> As an example of sending E-mail to IBM X400 address, I have the
> following example:
>
>   figovhm.figov.ibmmail.ibmx400.gb@mhs-relay.ac.uk
>
> What do I need to do to send this in the U.S.?  As an example, if I 
> have the following address, what host name would I send it to? 
>
>    xxxxzz.xxxx.ibmmail.ibmx400.us@??????????????

Postings on the Info-Nets list have discussed this, but the recommended
address syntax is somewhat different.  It is:

    GIVENNAME.SURNAME@ibmx400-COUNTRY.ibmmail.circe.fr

COUNTRY is the country code of the ibmer, surname is normally the
last name of the person, and givenname is a name given by mother
blue which is something like the first chars of the last name
followed by the initials but never longer than 7 chars.

The mail _always_ goes through the gateway in France, no matter where
the IBM person is.  So your first example address would be

     figovhm.figov@ibmx400-gb.ibmmail.circe.fr

and the second would be 

     xxxxzz.xxxx@ibmx400-us.ibmmail.circe.fr

On the other hand, that was back in February.  You might find that your
US correspondent can now be reached with something like

     zxxxx@ibmmail.com

More information might be available from the postmaster there.

Ric <nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil>  <nauen%wrmain.decnet@detrick-emh1.army.mil>
           ^^^^^Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
        U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: sp_pm@space.alcbel.be (Paul Moore)
Subject: Help: Are there tools/scripts to easily email binary files?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 17:45:30 +0200
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Hello,

Are there scripts/tools available to automatically email binary/tar files,
that first use compress/uuencode/split before mailing the files, and that
then reverse the process for incoming files, stripping the mail headers
in the process? We sometimes have to send large binary files (> 1 Mbyte),
and so far we've been using DHL courier services. 

Please email responses, as we don't get a News feed at this site.

Thanks in advance for any advice offered,

- Paul

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phone (+32) 3/829.5024
From: edwardp@ra.cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: FredGate
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:48:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

Is the FredGate program available via ftp from any sites?

Thanks.

Ed



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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: khush@csskwh (Ken Hush)
Subject: RE: Internet --> IBMX400
Reply-To: khush@mot.com
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Distribution: comp.mail.misc
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:33:09 GMT

In article <kedrbjC00YV7Q2H5IJ@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:
> As an example of sending E-mail to IBM X400 address, I have the
> following example:
> 
>    figovhm.figov.ibmmail.ibmx400.gb@mhs-relay.ac.uk
> 
> where mhs-relay.ac.uk is the host name.
> 
> 
> What do I need to do to send this in the U.S.?  As an example, if I have
> the following address, what host name would I send it to?
> 
>    xxxxzz.xxxx.ibmmail.ibmx400.us@??????????????
> 
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
> 
I believe that the host name will always be mhs-realy.ac.uk, since IBM's  
X.400 system is actually located in the UK, at IBM Warwick.

--
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Corporate Information Office  
Motorola                                       
1299, East Algonquin Road,                                                                      
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: mvp@hsv3.lsil.com (Mike Van Pelt)
Subject: Re: GEnie now exchanging Internet mail
Organization: LSI Logic/Headland Technology
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:25:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.232447.16149@homebase.vistachrome.com> andy@homebase.vistachrome.com writes:
>niall@astro.as.utexas.edu (Niall Gaffney) writes:
>>And how about the other way?  From the Internet to a GEnie user.
>user.name@genie.geis.com - so for example, 
>  andy@genie.geis.com   

Be aware, however, that you can only send email to a GEnie user
who has signed up (@9.95/month extra) for Internet mail service.
GEnie users who have not signed up can not receive email from
the Internet.
-- 
Mike Van Pelt          | What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth?
LSI Logic/Headland     | Judging from realistic simulations involving a
mvp@hsv3.lsil.com      | sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we
sun!indetech!hsv3!mvp  | can assume it will be pretty bad. -- Dave Barry
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.sys.att,comp.unix.sysv386
From: memanuel@cbnews.cb.att.com (mark.emanuele)
Subject: mailx is putting a ^A in random place in mail file
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:06:43 GMT
Followup-To: poster


I've been experiencing a repeated problem with mailx(1) on AT&T SVR4 2.1
 that maybe you can help me with. After leaving mailx and returning
 at a later time to the same folder, some mail entries in the folder
 have been changed to binary type which cannot be printed or edited
 within the folder. mailx(1) determines they are "binary" because they
 have non-printable characters in them - in almost all cases these
 characters are cntl A's and appear in a vi edit of the folder as
 "^A"'s. I believe these contol characters are generated in the folder
 by leaving it and later returning - they are not in the original
 messages.
 
 

Please e-mail responses to memanuele@attmail.com and I will post a summary

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: saranen@epx.cis.umn.edu (David Saranen)
Subject: Re: MetaMail
Keywords: metamail
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: comp.mail.misc
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:22:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.162836.29586@schbbs.mot.com> khush@mot.com writes:
>
>Can anyone supply an address where it might be possible to get a copy of  
>MetaMail from Bell Communications Research ?
>

Try thumper.bellcore.com.   Try directory /pub/nsb, but when you first
get there, there are README's scattered all over the place. If 
problems, e-mail me.
-Dave
saranen@epx.cis.umn.edu
From: saranen@epx.cis.umn.edu (David Saranen)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: What is the format of a mailbox file?
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:41:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota

Apparently you are interested in taking incoming mail and placing it
in separate files so you can manipulate it there. MH already does
that.  The 'inc' command (for incorporate) reads your /usr/spool/mail
and places files in  a directory - like~/Mail/inbox.  ONce it's in
there you can use anything you want on it.  You can use MH commands in
a shell script also.  The FAQ was recently posted in comp.mail.mh.
If all else fails, you can e-mail me for more info.
-Dave
saranen@epx.cis.umn.edu
From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: AT&T Canada adress wanted
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:50:58 GMT
Organization: Oracle Europe


A couple of days ago I received mail from someone answering a post of 
mine. He seems to have a somewhat problematic id so that I have not
been able to respond. Below is the header of the message (the relevent
parts) and part of his sig. I would appreciate it if someone
could figure out a way to contact him.

Thanks a lot --> Rob

Here's the header:
*********************************************************************


Received:  from [142.77.1.1] by gatekeeper.oracle.com (Oracle 1.12/37.7)
	id AA01248; Thu, 10 Sep 92 11:04:08 PDT
Received: from attcan by mail.uunet.ca with UUCP id <10248>; Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:02:55 -0400
Received: by attcan.uucp ; Thu Sep 10 13:58 EDT 1992
From: vpk2!john@attcan.nl.oracle.com
To: oracle.com!rgasch@uunet.ca@nl
Subject: re: Looking for references
Received: from vpk2 by attcan.att.ca; Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:58 EDT
Message-Id: <92Sep10.140255edt.10248@mail.uunet.ca>

   ==--===== Willowdale, Ontario       attmail   : ~jbenfield
    =======  M2H-3P7                   email     : uunet.ca!attcan!john

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: sumane@grapes.Stanford.EDU (Thilaka Sumanaweera)
Subject: Help: Need software for maintaining a Mailing List
Organization: Stanford University Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 19:21:45 GMT


-- 

Hello friends,

I am looking for software that automatically takes care of
maintaining a mailing list. The subscribers should be able to
add and delete themselves by sending mail with appropriate
SUBJECT lines.

Does anyone know of a ftp site where I can obtain a copy of
a reliable mailing list maintainer? I can choose from SUN, DEC
and SGI platforms. Any help/pointer is apreciated.

Let there be fall colors soon,

Thilaka


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Thilaka Sumanaweera
Stanford University School of Medicine
Department of Radiology
Lucas MRS Building
Stanford, CA 94305-5488                            Tel: (415)723-5754
USA                                                Fax: (415)723-5795
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 09:18:16 GMT
From: Nadine Grange <GRANGE@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: RE: Internet --> IBMX400 - User's guides
Distribution: comp.mail.misc
 <1992Sep4.223309.14210@schbbs.mot.com>

Hi,

The user's guide for the EARN/IBM gateway (in France) explains you how to use
this gateway. This gateway is accessible by any users of the academic
community whether they are on EARN, Bitnet or Internet.
The guide is available as file IBMMAIL DESCRIPT on any Netserv. To obtain it,
send a
get ibmmail descript
command in a mail message to any Netserv (you can try Netserv@frmop11.bitnet
or Netserv@bitnic.bitnet).

Hope this helps,

         /Nadine
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From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.headers
Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: header reliable?
Date: 5 Sep 92 14:55:25 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Sep05.124731.8552@golem.uucp>, davidf@golem.uucp (David J. Fiander) writes:
> According to dhuber@autelca.ascom.ch (Daniel Huber):
> >I just recommended a colleauge to enable the header Return-Receipt-To: for
> >his outgoing international mail. However, we do not get all return receipts
> >we would expect... 
> >Is it possible to turn off Return-Receipt-To: replies? Or is the internet
> >that unreliable?
> 
> I hate to tell you this, but there is no such thing as a
> return-receipt-to header.
> 
> Well, actually there is, but it was invented by the author of
> sendmail, and only sendmail (and some versions of SCO MMDF)
> support the the generation of return receipts.  So the only
> time you will get a return receipt is when the recipient's
> machine is running sendmail.
> 
> Of course, through judicious use of the .forward file and mail
> filtering programs, the fact that you got a return receipt
> doesn't mean anything any way, since the addressee may be
> discarding mail from you unseen.


A common use of Return-Receipt-To: is to debug mail transport
problems.  It is a little cleaner and easier than mailing to
"nosuchuser@remote.dom.ain" or "<@remote.dom.ain:myname@my.dom.ain>",
when it works.



Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: mgottlie@nyx.cs.du.edu (Meir Gottlieb)
Subject: sending E-Mail to a BIX acount
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:44:20 GMT

I wass wondering if anyone had to said E-Mail to at BIX NET acount
if someone knows, please E-Mail me at mgottlie@nyx.cs.du.edu
--- Meir --- mgottlie@nyx.cs.du.edu ---

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.headers
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: header reliable?
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:06:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.080432.12737@Veritas.COM> tron@Veritas.COM
(Ronald S. Karr) writes, in response to myself:

:>smail also supports Return-Receipt-To: headers.
:
:Which smail?  Smail2.5 didn't, last I checked.  The official releases
:of smail3.1 don't, although I believe that some unofficial patches are
:filtering around that do this.

Hmmmm...  I recently grabbed "smail-3.1.25.tar.Z" from an archive site
I snarfed from Archie.  (I forget the name of the site -- presumably
near the top of the list Archie generated.)  It was installed and I
mailed to said site, including a valid Return-Receipt-To: header.  I
received an ACK from the smail daemon installed at the other end.  Oh
well...  it's getting smail 3.1.27 from a "blessed" archive site this
week.  

						...Mike


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
Subject: Re: GEnie now exchanging Internet mail
Reply-To: andy@homebase.vistachrome.com
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:55:44 GMT

urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs) writes:
[I write]
>> There is no need to remove periods, dashes, or spaces from the user name.
>> 
>However, be sure to _quote_ names with spaces, as in
>	"andy user"@genie.geis.com
>or you may be in for a surprise. 

No GEnie addresses contain spaces, only letters, numbers, dashes, and
periods.  I mentioned spaces because AOL prefers the spaces not be there
on receipt from the Internet.  Probably for the same reason you mention
below.  (I learned something new today)

>NB: If your mailer doesn't parse those addresses correctly, you may be in
>for a surprise anyway. What's more, since there may still be difficulties
>with names like these because of UUCP-rmail links, support for an alternate
>scheme such as RFC 1137 might make sense.

>-- 
>The game of love is never called off on account of darkness.
>-- 
>Matthias Urlichs  --  urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de   /(o\
>Humboldtstrasse 7 -- 7500 Karlsruhe 1 -- Germany  --  +49-721-9612521     \o)/
-- 
Andrew Finkenstadt       | Vista-Chrome, Inc.   |           andy@GEnie
GEnie Unix Sysop/Manager | The Printing House   |    NIC Handle: AF136
+1 904 222 2639 home     | 1600 Capital Cir SW  |   ...!uunet!rde!andy
+1 904 575 0189 work     | Tallahassee FL 32310 | andy@vistachrome.com
--------->  "Our OS which art in CPU... UNIX be thy name"  <----------
From: nauen@WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: How can I exchange email with someone in Bordeaux, France?
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:44:00 GMT

In <79011@ut-emx.uucp> michaell@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael A. Lowry) says

> This returned what appear to be names of hosts in bordeaux:
> 
> bordeaux.inra.fr
> greco-prog.fr
>
> I have sent mail to "postmaster" at both of these sites, but have
> received no reply yet.
>
> Does anyone know of any hosts in Bordeaux? Also, is there anything
> else I could do (save going to Bordeaux) to find hosts in Bordeaux
> where Anne could get an account?

Well, you could try writing to postmaster@inra.fr and @geocub.greco-prog.fr,
both of which, according to name server records, are likely to support
email.  But the ones you have probably work.  Just that all France goes
on vacation in August.

Other possibilities might be

% BITNET NODELST
Node Node     Connected             Remarks                  Sys   Last
 Nr  Name        Via                                         Type  Update
____ ________ ________  ____________________________________ _____ _____
0797 FRBDX11  FRMOP22   Centre Interuniversitaire de Calc,FR RSCS  REP 19911003
1275 FROBOR51 FRBDX11   Observatoire de Bordeaux, France ,FR NJE   REP 19910924

However, you might have to reconcile yourself to the possibility that
computer accounts might only be issued to persons who have valid need.

Ric
From: fitz@wang.com (Tom Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Reply-To: rewrite
Date: 7 Sep 92 07:33:18 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:

> A UUCP gateway necessarily must translate from whatever is happening on
> the Internet to whatever is right in the connected UUCP world.
> That necessarily means rewriting all addresses appropriately.  In some
> UUCP worlds, only !-paths work.

I think the only world where this is still true is AT&T.  Everywhere else,
probably 99% of the UUCP sites, now understand domain addresses.  And many
of the sites that do require !-paths, (people running unmodified AT&T
SysV.2, old Xenixes, etc.) don't honor Reply-To: for return addresses
anyway, they use the From_ line.

Even for those few sites that only understand ! paths, you're not doing
them a favor by rewriting domain addresses into !s unless you're a direct
neighbor, because after one or two more hops, the original !-path has often
been mutilated into something that is not only wrong, but can't even be
hand-translated back into a working !-path.  At least an untouched
@-address can be rewritten by hand into a !-path on non-domainist sites.

> Years
> ago, I found it necessary to to assume the other end does not do FQDN's
> unless told otherwise.  More recently, it has been effective to assume
> FQDN's are understood unless bounces are seen.

Very much so - and even if bounces are seen, it's worth checking with the
owner of the affected site and letting him/her know about it first.  It's
often easier to get someone to install smail 2.5 or something, than deal
with the continual problems caused by rewriting domain addresses into
!-paths.

-- 
Tom Fitzgerald   Wang Labs       fitz@wang.com   "I went to the universe today;
1-508-967-5278   Lowell MA, USA                   It was closed...."
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From: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Reply-To: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers,comp.mail.uucp
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Reply-To: rewrite
Organization: The Tiny Software Company, Main Office, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 92 01:15:31 

vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:

>After a few years and
>hundred UUCP neighbors, some people get tired of reforming the world,
>and just let people do whatever they silliness they want within
>limits.  Eventually you just pick a list of minimal requirements (e.g.
>name in the maps or registered FQDN, >= 2400 b/s modem unless news
>wanted, no more than a few bounces/week) and refuse connections unless
>unless those requirements are met.

well, first of all, I run a news system at 2400, I just don't receive
a lot of groups. However, that's not the main point of this reply...

I think a registered domain name (either FQD or subdomain of someone else's
systems) AND uucp name should be a requirement. I have both, many people I
know and many people I converse with on Usenet have both, and it does not
cost money (or much time) to get either. I see software such as smail (I have
version 2.5) as a necessity also, for Unix systems ... we need a base to 
work from. How many people are running those older systems with the older 
software?

Standards are important when you have so many people and computers 
participating as part of the same network.

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From: cudep@warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers
Subject: Re: Reply-To: rewrite
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:58:23 GMT
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn

In article <1992Sep8.123136.18398@visionware.co.uk> chris@visionware.co.uk (Chris Davies) writes:
>friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman) writes:
>:    It occurs to me that, regrettably, a rewrite of the appropriate mail
>: headers is also necessary when transferring mail between the UK and the
>: rest of the world, since they have their domains backwards. 
>No, No, No!!!!!  Some of the academic network (Janet) uses domains
>which happen to be the other way round to the Internet way of doing
>things.  The rest of us use Internet domains (or perhaps bang paths if
>absolutely necessary).  Life's too short to attempt to do anything with
>uk.ac.* addresses except pass them on to our smart host (uknet.ac.uk).
>However, we can handle some *.ac.uk addresses (which is the way we see
>things).  Likewise for most UK commercial sites.

The backwards domain is dying and faster then I had guessed it would...
A significant number of *.ac.uk sites now use SMTP directly to the rest
of the Internet, avoiding any non-local rewriting.  Certainly, here at
Warwick, delivery of local mail is in 822 order, not backwards...
Grey Book mail is being ousted by a combination of SMTP and X.400(88).
I bet you can't guess which is the official political line, and which
one will survive for longer than *THEY* would like :-)

Cheers,
-- 
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vato@csv.warwick.ac.uk  ...!mcsun!uknet!warwick!vato           the wombat when
/I=I/S=Dickinson/OU=CSV/O=Warwick/PRMD=UK.AC/ADMD= /C=GB/            anyone is
@c=GB@o=University of Warwick@ou=Computing Services@cn=Ian Dickinson  watching.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.headers