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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: STRIPS: laugh out loud
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 23:12:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <3769@wet.UUCP> genef@wet.UUCP (Gene Fornario) writes:
>In article <willimsa.701272343@unix1.tcd.ie> willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams) writes:
>>
>>
>>	I like Bloom County.  Is BB going to write any more?
>>
>I seriously doubt it.  When Berk announced that he was not going to continue
>the strip, he made an analogy to a ripe melon.  He basically said thathe
>took it as far as possible and it was time to move on.  He then announced
>he would be working on Outland, a "Sundays only" strip 
>
>Yes, I liked the strip also.  It's unusual that any creator would dump a
>imaginative and successful strip, it could have gone on for 50 years, but
>I guess Berke thought different.
>

Of course, Outland has been nothing but a very pale and cheap imitation
of Bloom County when it was at its best. Certainly nothing very new 
has come out of the strip, especially as most of the current characters
are straight from Bloom County. The new characters that were introduced
at the start of the strip are never seen anymore - (the Mickey Rat type
character and the other one). 
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From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Here we go now...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Sandman Movie?!?  (and Sam & Max)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:33:33 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>But what if the film were done by someone like Steven King, Clive Barker, or
>Wes Craven.  Or even better, Tim Burton-(I know this will start up a Burton-rui
ned-Batman(tm) war, but...).  I think a Burton Sandman could be really cool.

Oh my god.  TIM BURTON?  Haven't you had enough of that stupid overdone gothic
crap yet?  All we need is Tim Burton directing, Sam Hamm (heretic) writing,
and Danny Elfman writing that hack music.  Ugggghhh.

PLEASE!  Don't let Sam Hamm write the Watchmen script...

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From: TSF106@psuvm.psu.edu (ME)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: $100 Holograms #?
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:25:39 GMT
Organization: HAM - Hackers Against MUDs
X-Subliminal-Message: IBM/370 assembler is your friend.

Whoever posted that article asking $100 for a Wolvie hologram
must be joking or crazy!
Heck, I bough a whole box for $13 and got 7 holograms!
Just a sanity check for someone...
Todd
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 15:49:32 EDT
From: <JRB128@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Innovation: Dark Shadows

       Well, what can I say? After having just read the 1st issue,
and rewatched the first few hours of the NBC series, I think
that this will turn out to be a most excellent comic. It already
has the best artwork that I've ever seen in a comic.
       If it lives up to its potental (and I have very high expectations
after having loved the original TV series, and having really enjoyed the
NBC version) this comic will easily be my favorite.

           Anyone else notice that, despite Innovation being a very
new comic company, its got some VERY talented artists? I'm very surprised
at the quality of the art, and very happy.


                        I now return you to your television sets....

                                                     -Jimothy
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: TOM DEFALCO=HITLER???
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:21:51 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Apr8.154724.19791@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:

>In article <sdsQhFa00VoiQ7V18g@andrew.cmu.edu> cl2g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles Anthony Leone) writes:
>>Tom DeFalco is a real fascist dictator. I spoke with him on the phone
>>and he is a stubborn old man with no heart. AND he has little use for
>>anyone but a Marvel editor writing Marvel stories.
>>
>>Don't read FF 355 or later, or Thor 383 or later. We don't want you to
>>turn to stone. However, in the latest FF letters page DeFalco comments
>>that the reason the FF and Thor are the way they are is that he's trying
>>to preserve the "tradition" of the 60s.

+>It seems strange that DeFalco would say he's trying to "preserve the 
+>'tradition' of the 60s," and then give us a totally new Thor the way he 
+>did.  Or is the "tradition" bad storytelling?  Either way, he's a
+>hypocrite and an a**hole who should leave the comic book industry to
+>the people who CARE about the books and characters, not just selling
+>comics.

	Give him credit.  He is working thor backwards.  The "old" thor
had too much baggage with him to really take the character back to its
"true" roots.  Its true roots being the "classic" Stan Lee-R. Burns 
-Don Heck issues
in the range of Journey into Mystery 87-100.  I mean who can forget those
stories.  Or those characters like Merlin, Sandu the
master of the supernatural, Cobra, Mr. Hide.  Or Zaxton and his duplicating
ray.
From: barry@clark.edu (Barry Lieberman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Date: 12 Apr 92 08:35:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Apr12.083517.22541
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <167C3138DC.REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer) writes:
>What does everyone think about the new characters introduced in this book?
>(I mean the superagents, Knockabout, Psi-Borg, Violence, and Ivory.)  I
>think they're terrific!  Violence always complaining about Fury's "advanced
>age", Knockabout talking about his 'Aussie days'...  I, for one, would
>like to see these characters continue to appear.
> 
>And while we're talking about this book, does anyone really believe that
>Fury is resigning for good?

I am not sure, because I just started to collect this series.  But what I
have seen so far of the new characters, I like them.  Thought it was a funny
way of introducing them.  Hope it continues to be good and improve with
these new characters.
-- 
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     or           is the cancer of democracy.
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                                   Robert A. Heinlein
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MUTANTS AND HUMAN WAR issues needed
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:32:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: gazette.11260
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine


	There hasn't really been a war between humans and mutants.
I'm doing a semi-regular feature called "the X-men Files" or 
"The Annotated X-men,"  which is going to document the X-men's
adventures from X-men #120 -> The Present.  I should get to 
around 200 in week or two, if you can hold on that long.
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: ATTTN: STAR WARS FANS
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:14:50 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

So y'all know, a vote was taken in rec.arts.sf.misc
and rec.arts.sf.starwars was passed and is now in it's 5 day trial period!!!
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So be on the look out!!!

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to make crack look like Sanka. -  Dennis Miller| there you are."-Buckaroo Banzai
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (The Loch Ness Dog)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes Question
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 10:18:31 GMT

ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:

>>Waterson actually pissed off a lot of papers, and a lot
>>have decided to stop running C and H as a result. Something to do with him
>>insisting on drawing bigger, more colourful strips in the Sunday editions.
>>Anyway, I side with Waterson - it's about time people stopped letting
>>themselves be pushed around by the papers and publishers. Look at disney
>>comics these days; they don't have nearly as much bright colours as they
>>used to, because publishers are trying to cut costs. 

>Eyuh.  That's a big peeve of mine, too.  As I recall, Watterson said something
>about that in the back of one of his books.  I agree 100% .  Strips today
>don't get to show off their full potential because of all the idiot
>penny-pinching newspapers.  Blah!

Imagine the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, or LA Times (or paper of the same
size) folded out to it's full page size.  That used to be ONE strip on 
the Sunday comics, Usually something impressively great like Tarzan or
Flash Gordon or Prince Valient.  Now the papers cram FIVE or SIX (or up to
eight) comics on a single Sunday page.  It's horrid.

Find some books (there is a wonderful Smithsonian Collection that your library
should have in the 742's) and take a look at such classics as Mutt & Jeff, or
Steve Canyon, or Little Orphan Annie (in the OLD days).  Amazing stuff.

Fortunately, The Denver Post does not have C&H, the News Does.

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From: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com (K. Rogers)
Subject: Doonesbury (sp?)
Reply-To: krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, Utah
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:44:05 GMT

Alright, we never managed to get into a flamewar over Calvin & Hobbes
being the best comic around these days, so how about Doonesbury (if I
managed to spell it correctly?)  That's one that has, or at least had,
a lot of dedicated fans.  I've always hated it.  Granted I was only 15
when Saigon (errr, Ho Chi Min City) fell but I was politicially aware
enough at the time and I still hated the strip.

The reason I dislike Trudeau's strip is because it's utterly,
unrelentingly, bitterly sarcastic.  This is the kind of guy that is
funny for the first two strips until you find he can only bitch bitch
bitch and never propose anything useful in return.  But my biggest
gripe is that it lacks any subtlety whatever.  The ironic thing is
that most people find *me* sarcastic and nihilistic, and even *I*
can't take Doonesbury.

So, let the flames begin!  Set thrower on char-broil.  And don't cross
the streams, said Egon.

(Disclaimer: I'm refering to his early stuff, mainly, as I practically
never read him these days.  Maybe he's changed into a Yuppie by now,
for all I know; all I remember is his Nam stuff.)
-- 
Keith Rogers
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
krogers@javelin.sim.es.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes
Reply-To: bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 14:24:32 GMT


In a previous article, ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) says:

>>> Calvin and Hobbes is by far the best comic strip around.  Just trying to
>>> start some arguments... 8)
>>> 
>>> 					A big fan,
>>> 					Scott Elwood   
>>
>>How about ONE of the best, right after ernie pook's comeek and the Far Side ;->
>
>
>"The Far Side" is a close second.  Haven't read too much of the other.
>-- 
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>
Calvin and Hobes IS great - I'm glad Watterson came off his sabbatical and is
again writting new strips.  In my oppinion the Far Side usually SUCKS.  By
far the worst comic is Andy Capp - sick British humor (?) about a drunken
wife beater and his husband beating wife.  With all the problems re spouse
abuse this is supposed to be funny?

By the way is Freddie J McNurtny still around?  My paper dropped it years
ago and I haven't seen it anywhere since then.

Flame on?
Pete

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr)
Subject: Re: Peanuts: Can Snoopy Talk?
Keywords: peanuts
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:16:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.234557.5701@spss.com> markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder) writes:
>By contrast, Tintin's dog, Milou (or Snowy, if you insist), seems to be
>able to speak perfectly well.

On a related note, Jolly Jumper seems to be able to speak quite well, but
only Lucky Luke can understand him; he can also talk to other horses, and
I think he can talk to Rantanplan...  I guess there is a special animal
language at work here, which Lucky Luke is able to understand.

Now I have to put on my asbestos suit, because these are not "strips"...
-- 
                    ' ",      *
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                          '
From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Waanzin, Waanzuit ????????
Date: 16 Apr 92 09:54:07 GMT
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology

labc-1ad@e260-1a.berkeley.edu (Eric van Bezooijen) writes:

> A while ago I came upon a wonderful comic strip in Holland called "Waanzin,
> Waanzuit" (I think that is the title).  

"Waanzin Waanzuit" is the Dutch translation of Marcel Gotlib's (he's
French) "Rubrique-a-braque". Gotlib has written *much*, *much* more than
Waanzin Waanzuit by the way.

A few years ago a series of five Dutch albums was released -- but then it
stopped, and in fact I never see any Gotlib anymore in Dutch versions.
In France he's all over the place, though.

> This comic strip was really bizarre, and it explored some intereesting ideas 

If you think 'Waanzin Waanzuit' is bizarre, wait until you see some of his
more adult stuff. "Waanzin" is just very absurd, but never offensive or
shocking. Much of his other writing is all three :-).

> To get to a point, several years ago I was looking over someone's shoulder,
> and I thought I saw someone reading this in English.  Does anyone know what
> the English version of this is called, where I can get it, and if it is 
> still in print ?   Any info will be MOST appreciated.

Can't help you here. But I sure wish somebody would start translating them
to Dutch again, *sigh*. Either that or I'll finally have to learn French.

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
From: cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: The Best Far Side cartoon
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:40:09 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <1992Apr8.204807.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> axd7104@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
>
>BTW, is it just me, or is The Far Side not nearly as funny since 
>Larson's sabbatical?

I agree.

As for favorites, one that really cracked me up showed a couple of
large female insects sitting in a living room.  One is knitting (baby
clothes, presumably) and saying, "Well, of course Ed wants a male, and
I'd like a little female, but really, as long as it has six legs and
four eyes we'll be happy".  That reminds me of another one -- one
female praying mantis confronting another at her door, declaring
indignantly, "No, I haven't seen him, and besides, Marge, surely you
know I would only devour my *own* husband!"  (both roughly
paraphrased).

Also, amoebas showing home movies:  "Wait a minute, that's not cousin
Bill!  Who is that?  Criminey, I think it's just an air bubble!"

For some reason I never thought the CAT FUD one was that funny.
Too obvious or something.

-- 
cole@unix.sri.com
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: pkern@utcs.utoronto.ca (pkern)
Subject: Re: For Better or for Worse
Organization: UTCS
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:14:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.003403.2312@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> irving@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Myers) writes:
>In <1992Apr7.215418.28231@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>
>>Anybody read this? Any opinions? Should she have had the third child?
>>Will Michael & Martha stay together forever? Will Gordo turn his dad
>>in for abusing him?
>
>I don't know much about the author of this puppy, but I think she (it is her
>isn't it?) writes reality.  So there probebly wasn't a choice about the baby,
>if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

Actually, Elly's third child is not linked with reality.
In an interview, Lynn Johnston acknowledged that this
was a departure from her previous practice of putting
real events in her life into the strip.
From: mp_rc@cox.nsac.ns.ca (ROB CHUTE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Kudzu
Keywords: Southern Humor
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:38:39 GMT
Organization: Nova Scotia AC

Hi I need help.

One of the main papers in the Province used to carry a strip called "Kudzu".
It disapeared(sp?) from the paper some time ago.

Does anyone out there know if it is still being drawn, and if there are any 
compliations available?

Thanx.
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Rob Chute                                     Internet: RC_MP@ac.nsac.ns.ca
                                                        MP_RC@cox.nsac.ns.ca
Nova Scotia Agricultural College             
Truro, Nova Scotia   CANADA
"If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes"
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder)
Subject: Re: I Go Pogo
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 16:50:27 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

In article <1992Apr7.183301.17591@e2big.mko.dec.com> ide@studio.enet.dec.com (Jamie Ide) writes:
>Anyone else out there follow Pogo?  What do you think of the present incarnation
>of the strip?  Doyle & Sternacky got it going again, then Sternacky left, and
>now two of Walt's kids (can't remember their names) have taken over.  It's too
>early for me to tell if I like the Kellys over D&S, but it's nice to see the
>Kelly name associated with the strip again.

I thought Doyle & Sternecky were pretty good at whimsy and no good at
politics.  Their replacements are horrible.  Does anyone know why D&S left?

Also, why have they stopped reprinting the old Pogo books, as Walt Kelly
created them?
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 01:29:31 EDT
From: Norman St. John Polevaulter <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: stupid strips
 <1992Apr8.034358.15330@hubcap.clemson.edu>

In article <1992Apr8.034358.15330@hubcap.clemson.edu>, trev@hubcap.clemson.edu
(Trevor Bauknight) says:
>
>dove@elaine9.Stanford.EDU (Dav Somebody) writes:
>
>>Hey, what do you think the stupidest strips out there are?  I have to

Ooo! Me, me! Pick me!

I say the stupidest, most awful, all-around-most-deserving-of-instant-
cancelling strip is: MARMADUKE. Yes, next to this Family Circus, Cathy,
Fred Basset all pale to nothingness. Ugly art, a huge dog (I hate huge
dogs), stupid jokes, usually appears in conjunction with "Heathcliff" --
arrgh...

How is it that strips like this survive and prosper, while gems like
"Norb" get hate mail and cancelled? (I STILL can't believe that.
Who would send hate mail about a comic strip? I mean, most of us may
despise, say, "Family Circus" to the very depths of our souls but
it doesn't rouse us to write nasty letters about it!)

>>As for interesting new(?) strips, anyone see Overboard or Robotman?
>>Both of these strips are pretty good, and definitely give me a good
>>chuckle from time to time.

Ah, Robotman! That's been around for ages (well, several years anyway).
I love it! One of the most clever and consistently witty comic strips
around. Pity it doesn't have particularily wide distribution, though.
There are some collected volumes of it around (I have "Cyberpunktrek."
Great stuff.)

[Your blood pressure just went up.]       Mark Sachs IS: mbs110@psuvm.psu.edu
 DISCLAIMER: Penn State cares about my money, not my opinions.
  "All my father wanted to do was make a toaster you could really set the
    darkness on -- and you perverted his work into those horrible machines!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
From: p5ku@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (BAMFORD)
Subject: Re: Comic Strips -- American Cultural Imperialism over Canada
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:32:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.004312.1600@cs.sfu.ca> jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews) writes:
>
>     Well, with the creation of rec.arts.comics.strips, and the
>debate just started on soc.culture.{canada,usa}, I thought it
>was high time to talk about one of my pet peeves -- American
>comic strips in Canadian papers.
>
(deleted lines)
>
>So what are you whining about?  Make some Canadian strips!
>----------------------------------------------------------
>
>     Well, there is one strip by a Canadian that I know about:
>_For Better or Worse_, by Lynn Johnson.  But although I don't
>think she refers to the USA, I have never seen any references to
>Canada in that strip.

I have however.  Just recently (last week)  Elly, Elizabeth and the baby
visited Elly's parents in Vancouver.  She attemped to convince them that
they should move to where they live, which may or may not have been 
mentioned as Ontario or is it Winnipeg or Edmonton?  Regardless, they went
to Vancouver.  Several years ago (I have the book at home) John and Elly 
took a vacation to Florida (?? somewhere else very south?)  and John was 
taking to a bartender Rudy and asked him if he ever went to Canada and 
replied "What for?".  The family also has rode across Canada on the train
(r.i.p.!!).  Thus, I feel that there are several Canadian references in 
"For Better or For Worse".  The strip takes place out west I believe,
Winnipeg or Edmonton?


>
>
>     American cartoonists are unlikely to put in non-put-down
>references to Canada because most just don't know or care enough
>about Canada.  
EXACTLY!!!
>"What's this crap about John A. MacDonald and Canada Day?
>I don't care about Canada and neither do our readers!"
RIGHT ON!
>
>And the solution is...
>----------------------
>
>     Canadian Content regulations for comic strips.
Not a bad idea actually! 

>     OK, flame away...
Is this a flame?

>
>--Jamie.
Jeff Bamford, UNB, F'ton, NB, CANADA  

A