From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Some more misconceptions regarding OS/2 and NT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:23:12 GMT

In <1992Aug19.233757.18940@microsoft.com> petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.200236.17403@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>< stuff concluding that CD ROM is a good thing for development >
>>
>>
>>Of course, this assumes a lot of things.  It assumes that the CD-ROM
>>winds up being 'plug and play'.  It assumes that I want to buy a
>>CD-ROM that Microsoft decides to support.  It assumes everybody else
>>will follow Microsoft.  AND IT ASSUMES I WANT A FRIGGING CD-ROM IN THE
>>FIRST PLACE.

>What you want, I should think, would be some Valium.
>you don't want a floppy drive or a hard drive, you
>dont want a CDROM.  What you want is a good place to
>store small amounts of data so as to give it to your
>friend.  A good place to put data.  And a good way of
>transfering large amounts of data out to people.
>(I worded it this way so as to piss you off cause
>I'm telling you what you want ;)

It seems what you 'want' is reading lessons, since you seem to have
invented most of the preceding out of the whole cloth.

>The arguments you give went for floppy drives, hard drives, paper tape,
>magnetic tape, etc. in the past.  

No, they don't.

>>
>>[And NT can't take a full CD-ROM (660 MB), either, unless MS is
>>*GROSSLY* lying about how large a hard disk someone should have to
>>install it.  The only stuff it seems to make sense to me to have a
>>CD-ROM for is stuff that has like 500 MB of clip art.]

>Try postscript copies of all the docs so as to save money on paper,
>as well as trees.

So I get to burn toner and trees instead?  Gee, I like THIS kind of
thinking more all the time.  Add a PostScript printer (which I have)
to that CD-ROM.  And let ME pay to turn the docs into paper.  And then
try to sell this as 'ecology minded', what with saving trees and all.
I hope there's also a PostScript VIEWER out there on those CDs
somewhere. 

>>
>>I really don't like it.  I don't like it enough so that I won't buy
>>this product.  Not to mention that none of the people I know have felt
>>any great need to waste money on a CD-ROM, either; all of Microsoft's
>>hype about 'multimedia' notwithstanding.

>Fine, be left behind the times.  MS isn't the only company that's going
>to start shipping large products on CDROM.  They will probably become
>very popular real soon as they become inexpensive (as CD Players did).
>You should be able to find them for little more than a floppy disk.

Yeah, and the whole world will fit on a chip RSN.  Well, this isn't
RSN.  This is N.

>>
>>As for calling you in the morning, no need to worry about that.  Does
>>Microsoft have a training class where they teach people to be arrogant
>>and overbearing, or is it something in the selection process when they
>>hire you?

>Try reading your own post and tell me if you are arrogant and
>overbearing.  If you can claim to recognize others as such, you
>shure better be able to recognize when you're doing the same.

>Obviously something is pissing you off, and I really doubt it's me,
>a little discussion about CDROM, or whatever.  I'd suggest you clear
>that up before you try to make any objective business decisions.

Hey, I don't make 'business decisions' -- I'm just an engineer.  Other
people make the decisions; I just give 'em input.

It's not YOU, Pete; it's the policies of your company.  And of course,
you should be used to taking heat for their foolishness by now -- but
then, you sure seem eager to justify their bad decisions.  I guess
that's just one of those things that bothers me about the Microsoft
Klones. 

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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