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From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Coda
Keywords: musical score drawing
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:48:53 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Aug31.175210.16605@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>Whatever happened to Coda's porting to the NeXT their super musical score
>drawing package???
>
>--
>Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
>Texas A & M University			uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
>College Station, TX 77843-3112		BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
>	---Not an official document of Texas A&M---


In December of '90 MusicProse for the NeXT was listed in the NeXT software
catalog and Coda was sending out Mac literature with a 'MusicProse on 
the NeXT' sticker stating that it would be shipping on March 3 (maybe May 3).  
Anyway, in January of 1991 Coda had a change of management and immediately 
dropped MusicProse for NeXT in favor of developing for Windows 3.0 (at that 
time).  I spoke with the president of Coda last January at N.A.M.M. and
he assured me that the development efforts were no where near ready when 
it got canceled and that there were no plans to deviate from Windows and 
Mac platforms.  I don't remember his name off hand but he did seem receptive
to a third party developer working with Coda to make things happen for 
NeXT.  He told me to put something in writing and we'd talk.  My development
team broke up (Windows again ughh) and I never pursued it.

I've been looking around for Music Notation on the NeXT and have a few ideas
including networking to a Mac and putting its screen on the NeXT.  Anybody
else out there have any solutions?  

e-mail is O.K.
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From: bugs@atlantis.uucp (Dan Berry)
Subject: Re: Cleaning the keyboard
Organization: Atlantis Communications, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:22:02 GMT

Alex Blakemore (alex@cs.umd.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug21.192538.8459@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson) writes:
: > Can somebody explain how to clean out the gunk in my keyboard?
: 
: this worked for my new style keyboard - no guarantees
: 1. take off some keys by pulling straight up with needle nose pliers.
:    the space bar lets you clean more but is hard to replace.
: 2. clean
: 3. replace keys
: 
: under the space bar is a thin metal rod - it needs to snap into
: the two small plastic slots under the key.
: the only way I could reposition it was to
: 1. put on the space bar,
: 2. take out the screws from the back
: 3. gently pry up the top (partly),
: ... (and other cleaning instructions) ...

WHOA!  Wait a second here!  Do *NOT* do this, at least in this order and with
these tools.  This is all you need, and how to REALLY go about it in a safe
way that won't snap keys off or potentially ruin things.

Get these materials: 1) a cleaning cloth.  Yes, CLOTH.  Not a Kleenex(tm),
just a plain cotton cloth.  2) some isopropyl alcohol.  Go to a drugstore if
you have to; get the highest % of isopropyl you can find (read: NOT rubbing
alcohol).  3) Q-tips.  4) a Phillips #2 screwdriver.

Do this: Disconnect the keyboard and mouse from the (powered off) monitor/
keyboard (respectively).  Dismantle the keyboard by unscrewing the 7 screws
on the underside; 5 are visible, 2 are under the rubber feet.  Pull the
plastic case apart, and remove the keyboard from case.

NOTE: Although keyboards are essentially not much more than a mess of
switches wired together on a board, there ARE I.C.s in your keyboard.  Avoid
touching the PC-board at all costs, if you can.

Set the keyboard down on a clean tabletop, and if you have to remove the
keycaps then DO IT BY HAND.  Do NOT force them off by twisting them or yanking
too hard.  Be specially careful about the spacebar, as other people have noted.

Use the Q-tips, cloth and alcohol to clean as you need to.  Do NOT use water
or any other liquid substances that can corrode your wirings.  At this point,
I'm sure you can figure out how to stick the whole thing back together again.

If it doesn't seem obvious, you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.

-- 
Dan Berry == President, NeXT Edmonton Owners Network / UofA Computers Tech.
	bugs%atlantis@cs.ualberta.ca (bugs@atlantis.uucp) *** NO NeXTmail! ***
"On a first date, watch how your date treats the waiter, the bartender,
	and so on.  That's how she'll be treating YOU after three months."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: root@atinc.uucp (Operator)
Subject: major purchase decision?
Organization: atinc.com
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:15:42 GMT

    I'm trying to decide whether to plunge into my "Next" decision.  Currently,
I have a MacII-CX, 8Meg, hard drives total of 210Meg, with AU/X 2.0, and XR4
using twm. I develop alot of Motif/X stuff at work (Sun & HP workstations),
and typically work on the X layer at home.  I'm currently developing widgets,
so this setup is working out fine.  But, my Mac is slow (68030@16mhz), so compiles
(using cc or gnu) are slower than I would expect( but in general, the system is slow).

    So, now the decision!  Do I upgrade my Mac (cpu, memory, AU/X 3.0, cdrom, ....),
or a NeXT. I like to Next for 2 reasons: the development envir. (object_oriented), and
it can be configured to be an X workstation, using either Co-Xist or possibly Cub-X.
I'm looking at this configuration:

        NextStation - Color, 25mhz/040, 16Meg ram, 250Meg drive, Rel. 3.0.

    Will I be happy with this performance? Any input to my concerns on configuration
and performance would be appreciated.  I know i'm probably trying to compare apples
to oranges, but I'm looking for workstation performance, not just another MAC Quadra,
or a pretty box with a nice interface (impressive i might add). I realize its not risc,
but I'm spoiled. If I got my Mac to used also as a dos machine (SoftPC/AT is great), a
unix box (which I use almost always), I'm sure I can configure the NeXT with endless
possibilities (am I being naive?).

    Also, if I use my existing external scsi drives, can I found formatting software
out there for NeXT?  What cdrom drives are out there that are compatible with the
Mac and NeXT?

    I'd like you to tell me yeh, your going to like it, do it!, but I want the best
of both worlds: the NeXT envir., and workstation performance when it need it. Keep
in mind that I want to keep this affordable (yeah, right).

                                                Thankx, ronyd@atinc

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From: gkj@jacobs.esd.ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs)
Subject: NeXT_TIFF to PC_TIFF
Reply-To: gkj@ornl.gov
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:08:33 GMT

I am sure this is a simple problem that I am overlooking, but I cannot  
seem to find the solution:

I am providing input to a report that a colleague is writing in  
WordPerfect on a PC. I am producing graphics with TopDraw, Dan,  and other  
packages. I have been saving them as tiff images and then giving them to  
my colleague to include in his WordPerfect. The problem is that the tiff  
files have horrible resolution on the PC. Is there a trick to saving tiff  
images that contain the same resolution as those wonderful eps images?

Please respond to gkj@ornl.gov

thanks!

________________________________
dr. gary k jacobs

Geochemistry Group
Earth & Atmospheric Sciences
Environmental Sciences Division
From: tim@sinix.UUCP (Tim Bissell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: BaNG phone number please.
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:13:26 GMT
Organization: SNI AG Muenchen, STO XS

Hi!

Could somebody mail me the BaNG phone number?  Their info only has it
in letter form (415 327 BANG) and my European phone has only numbers on
it.

I want to join, and I need to know if I can use my credit card, as cheques
from Europe cost at least $20 to cash in the US.

I got email from them once, but all my attempts to contact them since have
been in vain!

Thanks in advance,

Tim
-- 
Tim Bissell		|      best...	tim@athen.uucp
Work:+49 89 636 49542	| 	hmm...	tim%sinix@germany.eu.net
Home:+49 89 692 5263	|   UK only...	uk.co.uel!sinix!athen!tim
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From: schulkow@tophat2 (Diane Schulkowski)
Subject: question: SoftPC and spice
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:12:11 GMT


I have a NeXT Colorstation, and I would like to run Spice (a DOS app for  
circuit analysis) using SoftPC.  I'm having a problem using the mouse.

Although I have turned on the mouse capability with SoftPC, and I can  
control the arrow cursor, I cannot use the buttons to select a menu item.   
Is there a special procedure for using the NeXT mouse with DOS  
applications?

I tried to search the FAQ list (I have one in LocalApps), but I did not  
see the answer to this.  Is there a FAQ list on the net?

Thanks for any insight into this problem.

Diane Schulkowski
schulkow@rtsg.mot.com
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Remote printing from PC
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 03:01:01 GMT

I'd like to use the laser printer connected to my Turbo from a PC on the
network running Beame and Whiteside's TCP/NFS product, version 2.1.  All
the NFS functions work correctly, but when I try to link a MS-DOS device to
the laser printer, it fails with an 'invalid printer' message.

I am quite sure this has to do with running Netinfo and not a standard BSD
print manager, but I'm wondering if anyone has found any workarounds. I am
also suspicious of the way Beame and Whiteside use the gethostbyname()
function call since their NFS daemon would not compile on the NeXT.

Too bad the world has been 'blessed' with MS-DOS :-).
-- 

Mark T. Dornfeld                              Voice: (416) 234-9048
CYANTIC Systems                               Facsimile: (416) 234-0477
101 Subway Crescent Suite 2103                Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Release 3
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:21:38 GMT

isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:


>In article <Bu0GGA.ApD@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>>yikes@netcom.com (Jenny Doll) writes:
>>
>>>All the floppy does (I think!) is boot from the CDROM, just to make it 
>>>easy for folks who don't want to Command~ and type the command themselves
>>>I forget the syntax for booting off of the CDROM, but it's just the same
>>>as any SCSI disk drive.
>>
>>I believe that people with ROM Monitors previous to v3.0 cannot boot
>>from a CD-ROM drive with 2.x, they need the floppy to install the proper
>>kernel so that they can boot from the CD-ROM.

>I just tried to look at the 3.0 PR2 floppy to verify that a new kernel is being
>installed from the floppy and panicked PR2 for the first time by simply
>double-clicking on the .hidden file on the floppy :-(  Now the floppy is
>damaged so even running fsck manually won't repair it (something about bad
>magic numbers in various cylinder groups, the same error I get when I try to
>format a floppy with a NeXT file system.  The same floppy formats fine using a
>DOS or Mac file system, so this must be a PR2 bug.)  I've panicked PR2 twice
>just trying to repair this floppy, so I give up.

>For someone with the 3.0 release, can floppies be formatted with the NeXT file
>system?
>-- 

>Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
>NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
>Email: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                                Voice: (408)335-1154
>USmail: 95018-9442                                           Fax: (408)335-2515

All you need to boot the CD_ROM is a special boot block.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: waltrip@capd.jhuapl.edu
Subject: Re: Stability of Next as a company
Organization: CAPVAX, JHU/APL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:14:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.140047.2190@afs.com>, jon@afs.com (Jonathan Hendry) 
writes:
	[...material deleted...]
> 
> Do you REALLY expect NT to be out before NS486? Really? I doubt that it will  
> be. And besides, how long will it take for apps which take full advantage of
> NT  to appear?
	Don't think it matters.  How many NeXT apps take full advantage of
	NeXTSTEP?  Windows 3.0/3.1 apps will be at least as usable on NT as
	they are on DOS.  Same is true of non-Windows DOS apps.  Some
	people will buy NeXTSTEP (486 or '040) because of the available apps.
	Some will buy because of mission-critical apps development capability.
	But what if they didn't have to choose?  What if they could run
	NeXTSTEP apps and develop mission-critical apps under NeXTSTEP on
	their NT machines.  Wouldn't that attract a bunch?
	[...material deleted...]

c.f.waltrip

Internet:	<waltrip@capsrv.jhuapl.edu>

Opinions expressed are my own.
From: wrb@ulnar.biostr.washington.edu (William R. Barker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 3.0 on the way?
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:23:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug25.202322.15801
Organization: University of Washington

Yo,

I've talked with 2 different NeXT people today, both of whom told me 3.0  
is at the pressing plant.  They also said that a 3rd party is handling the  
distribution, someone who knows how to do these things, so maybe it will  
arrive sooner rather than later.

Don't get your hopes up to high--but it sounds like good things are on the  
way.

bb

Bill Barker
Biological Structure, University of Washington
wrb@biostr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU ()
Subject: Opening any file from WorkSpace with Edit?
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:47:44 GMT


It would be nice if Alt-click-click in the WorkSpace
would open any file with Edit, even if the default
tool is some other application.

Anybody figured out how to do this?

Tim
-- 
Timothy Van Zandt   (609)258-4050  tvz@Princeton.EDU (NeXTMail)
Dept. of Economics,  Princeton University,  Princeton, NJ 08544
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: UNIX -> DOS conversion; ToolsInspector
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:42:29 GMT

schmidmeier@evax12.eng.fsu.edu writes:
: 
: Hello UNIX-Experts,
: 
: now that I've learned frome some post a few days ago how to
: search files and replace certain strings using
:       cat oldfile | sed s/oldstring/newstring/g > newfile
: I'm wondering whether I can convert a UNIX-file to a
: DOS-file that way, by replacing all the LineFeeds with
: CarriageReturn and LineFeed (\015 and \012 I think).
: Using \012 as a string did not work, so what will I have to do ?
: 

One way to do it is wiht 

sed -e 's/$/^M/'  file   >newfile

where th ^M is a "literal character" which you get by typing the combination
of characters "literal-next control-M".  To see what character gives you
"literal next" type "stty all" and you get

new tty, speed 38400 baud, 24 rows, 80 columns; -tabs 
crt 
decctlq 
erase  kill   werase rprnt  flush  lnext  susp   intr   quit   stop   eof
^?     ^U     ^W     ^R     ^O     ^V     ^Z/^Y  ^C     ^\     ^S/^Q  ^D     

notice that this says that ^V (control-V) makes the next character "literal."

The only thing is, in my experience this WILL NOT work with the NeXT csh
because (I believe) of a bug (i.e. the literal next character seems not to be
bound properly).  It DOES work using tcsh (which is what I use) and thus
I use the sed command all the time.  I've tried (under csh) using \015
instead of ^M but it still doesn't work. 

My advice:  switch to tcsh (or some other nicer shell --- PLEASE, let's
not get that thread going again about which is the best shell :-) and then
use the sed command.

Hope this is Helpful --- Tom
From: toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl (Toon Moene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Handling foreign payments.
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:36:11 GMT
Organization: Moene Computational Physics, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

In article <SCOTT.92Sep3005800@nic.gac.edu> scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)  
writes:

[ ... Foreign country checks cost money to cash ... ]

Let those non-US types use (left over) traveller's checks. Just  
countersign and fill in the 'Pay to the order of' piece. 100$==100$ (Of  
course the owner of the traveller's checks already has payed his/her dues  
- but then, only the sun rises for nothing; that is, for the time being  
:-) Nice for smaller amounts (shareware fees).
--
Toon Moene (toon@moene.indiv.nluug.nl)
Kantershof 269, 1104 GN  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Tel.: + 31 20 6982029; Fax: + 31 20 6003411
No Disclaimers; a NeXT at home protects against this occupational hazard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: abell@netcom.com (Steven T. Abell)
Subject: Re: Object Marketing (WAS: BackSpace/NextWorld)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 09:00:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: You need AMIX
Keywords: Information Marketplace

If you're really interested in Object Marketing, then you need AMIX,
the American Information Exchange. This is an online service where you
can post software, put a price on it, and get a check at the end of the
month when people buy your wares. In the US, call (415)856-1234 for info.

They have a Smalltalk market that's doing rather well. I'm sure a NeXT/Objc
market would do even better.

Disclaimer: I don't work for AMIX.

Steve abell@netcom.com
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From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth)
Subject: Re: Music & NS3.0
Keywords: music kit stuffes
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:59:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.202723.19457@Princeton.EDU> ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose) writes:
>From what I understand, the NeXT still has most of the compiled music kit  
>classes and functions in 3.0's shared object libraries.  Try copying your old
>versions of ScorePlayer and Ensemble over to your 3.0 machine and see if they 
>still function.

My 2.1 ScorePlayer works fine under 3.0PR2.
-- 
Geoffrey S. Knauth, Marble Associates, Inc.                Member BCS-NeXT, LPF
gsk@marble.com, (617) 891-5555 work, (617) 547-5247 home   Standard Disclaimers
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: todd@liveware.com
Subject: Re: Mail sounds?
Keywords: ATTENTION.snd
Reply-To: todd @liveware.com
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 02:46:26 GMT

In article <Btpy8x.BrK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)  
writes:
> I don't know if this has been said before, but elsewhere I have read that  
> 3.0's Mail.app has an option to select a sound to play when new mail  
> arrives.
> --
> -- Jeff
> -- jeffo@uiuc.edu
> -- no NeXTmail please

I have the BattleStar Galactica Cylon (sp) sound go off
when mail comes in.  Usually scares the *(&# out of people
the first time they visit the offices ;')

Todd Nathan
Liveware Corporation
From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SCCS for NeXT
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:14:00 GMT
Reply-To: looms@ectds.com
Originator: matthews@oberon.umd.edu

Does anyone out there have - or knows where to get - SCCS for the NeXT?
Archie turned up loads of front-end stuff, but not the real thing.

Reply-To set to looms@ectds.com, he's the one who asked me to post this.

Thanks.
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
It's not that I'm afraid to die.  I just don't want to be there when it
happens.
		-- Woody Allen.

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From: kdb@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Kurt Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Anyone have opinions on NeXT 17" and 21" color monitors?
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:16:51 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory, Duke Univ. Med. Center, Durham, N.C.
Originator: kdb@work5

I'm about to buy a color NeXTStation but cannot decide between the 2 color
monitors that NeXT offers.  I know that the 17" monitor is made in Italy 
by Philips and the 21" monitor is made in Japan by Hitachi.  Does anyone
have any information, opinion, or experience with these monitors that they
would share with me?  I've read posts of various problems with the 17" but
I guess that far fewer people actually use the 21".  Thanks for any info
you can give.

Kurt D. Bollacker   
Duke University Medical Center
kdb@dukebar.mc.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: billb@fnbc.com (Bill Burcham)
Subject: lpr from IBM VM to NeXT Laser doesn't work
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:09:17 GMT

When we do an lpr in landscape mode from our IBM to our NeXT laser, the  
pages collate in the reverse order.  First page comes out on the bottom of  
the stack.  Also, the job never ends, i.e. the printer stays tied up  
forever more.

Who has solved this:  I'll summarize.
--
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
|          Bill Burcham          | "The real world is the place     |
|     Protector of the Realm     |  between your toilet at home and |
| First National Bank of Chicago |  your toilet at work."           |
|    billb@fnbc.com  (NeXTmail)  |                                  |
+--------------------------------+----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: js@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jay Sekora)
Subject: detex/delatex for NeXT
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: js@Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University Applied and Computational Math
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:06:42 GMT


One of the professors here is trying to get a bunch of TeX macros to
work in Emacs on his NeXT.  He has dependencies on a couple of
executables called `detex' and `delatex'.  He has source for detex
version 2.3, which looks like it would also serve as delatex.  It
compiles with nothing more than one warning about assignment of
pointer to integer without a cast, but when we run the resulting
executable it gives a bus error.  The C code is generated by lex,
which I'm not familiar with, so I haven't dug through the source
much yet.  Sooooo....

Does anybody have a distribution of detex that works on the NeXT?

Thanks.
---j.
From: wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Please: e-mail address of mail-order for cables and stuff
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:10:57 GMT
Organization: BSO/LT, Baarn, The Netherlands

I'd like to mail-order things, like scsi-cables and such. Does anybody knoe a
company that
	- takes Mastercard
	- sells this stuff not too expensive
	- ships oversea
	- has e-mail? (NeXTconnection has not as far as I know)

Thanks!
-- 
wierda@ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda) || I speak for myself and not for my employer.
(+31) 2154 84415/(+31) 35 833539  || Support the League for Programming Freedom!
	"If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there."
	(Almost from) Lewis Carroll, "Alice in Wonderland".
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From: chris@tessi.com (Chris Lamb)
Subject: Re: Placing NeXTstation Slab on its Side
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:11:20 GMT

tagreen@lothario.cica.indiana.edu (Todd A Green) writes:

>...  We have quite a few machines that I administer that can only
>have drives mounted on their sides.  We've not had a single incident
>of bearings going bad (~15GB total disk space).  Some of these
>machines include DEC VAXen, SGI Crimson, Sun SPARCServer, etc. etc.

Yeah, we turned our Vax and our Sun SPARCserver 690MP on their sides, and
haven't had any problems yet.  (With the raised floor there wasn't much
ceiling clearance in our computer room, so those big cabinets are now
horizontal.  Makes for easier access to the air filters too.)

-- Chris


(Major :-)'s here in case you hadn't guessed! :-)
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