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From: jill@super.org (Amelia L. Scott)
Subject: More on the Flying Carpet Weave.
Followup-To: post it or jill@super.org 
Summary: Follow-up to the Favorite Project article. 
Keywords: weave, shadow weave, color 
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:26:34 GMT

I've received a couple of mailed articles about my color fix
to a bad warp color choice.  I hope that this short explanation
helps:

Are you familiar with the basics of Shadow Weave?  It's the only true
American weave structure.  I think it's a creation of Mary Meigs
Atwater during the war in the '40's.  It's basically a plain weave
structure with color-and-weave effects.  
        The warp for Shadow Weave is threaded light thread, dark thread,
light thread, dark thread through the entire pattern.  The weft is also
thrown light, dark, light, dark.  The color placement of the thread 
interacts with the plain weave block structure and creates the 
visible pattern.  
        I used an 8-harness pattern, but 4-harness patterns are common
also.  I chose a 5/2 cotton because the designs in Shadow Weave fade 
down to a blur when you use small thread sizes like 10/2 or 20/2 cotton.
I warped this pattern with brown and orange -- brown as the dark thread,
orange as the light in the pattern.  The weft, though originally brown 
and orange, was wine (dark thread) and hot pink (light thread).  I was 
totally floored by the outcome.                       
	The pattern that I used was on Pg. 75, drafts #295 & #296 (I was
weaving #296 first) of the book _A Weaver's Book of 8-Shaft Patterns_
that was edited by Carol Strickler and published by Interweave Press.
(I think I may have called it Interleaf press before because I've had so
many headaches with a History paper that I was typing on the Interleaf
text-processing package that we have at work. :-)
	Let me also add something to this article.  Typing Carol
Strickler's name gave me a pang when I realized that we've lost another 
fine weaver.  For those who are unfamiliar, Carol passed away this summer
when she lost her battle with cancer.  I never knew her except from her 
work, but her work shows what a caring and meticulous individual she was.
I only know a face in a photograph and the handiwork in dozens of articles,
but I feel like I lost something special every time I open my _Book_. 

		Raising a toast in Carol's memory,

			jill@super.org
			Jill Scott-Piner
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: MAHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: advice: dressmaker's dummy
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:31:03 EST

Elizabeth Pool of IBM really knows much more than I do about this,
but I'll try to reconstruct her advice.  Basically, a simple
dressmaking dummy is shaped as clothes manufacturers think women
are, which rarely corresponds to anything living.  The point of
using a dummy is usually to get a good fit, so you need to
find a way to reproduce your own body in 3-d.
 
You can get a regular dummy, in a smaller size than yourself, and
pad the appropriate places with cotton batting.  See the very latest
Threads (Dec/Jan) for a good explanation.  But this is best if you
just inherit a dummy, they aren't that cheap, and you need a good
eye to be able to reproduce your body well, front and back, from
scratch.
 
An earlier Threads article (I quote them because they're really
complete) showed 2 other methods.  The first one involves basically
sculpting a series of foam layers, which is cheap but has the same
inconvenient as above in needing a good eye.  The second one is
very messy, involves making a plaster-band cast of your body then
filling the resulting mold with liquid polyurethane foam.  Very
good reproduction, moderate cost, quite toxic.
 
The lazy method, the one I eventually went with, is the Uniquely
You dress form.  It's a standard form in foam, larger than you are.
You fit a canvas cover skin-tight, zip it on and voila!  A perfect
reproduction.  If Thanksgiving gets to your waistline, just let
out the seams the appropriate amount.  This normally costs $170,
but a tailoring company in Atlanta has them on sale for $120 till
the end of December.  I saw the ad at the end of the last Sew News,
and I pounced...
 
Elizabeth and I saw on Madison Avenue a whole italian designer's
window full of dress forms covered with animal-print cotton knits.
Mine, re-baptized 'la mujer pantera' (anybody see Cat People?)
will get the same treatment :-).
 
Marie-Christine
mahe-marie-christine@yale.edu
 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: carolyn@bucket.rain.com (Carolyn Peterson)
Subject: Re: advice: dressmaker's dummy
Organization: Rick's Home-Grown Un*x
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:29:39 GMT

dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd) writes:

>The dress I have in mind has a lot of pieces as well as an uneven hem and I  
>would like to use a dressmakers dummy. I've never used one before, is it worth  
>it?

>Do you know where I might find one? 
>Are they expensive? 



Many fabric stores have dress forms for sale.  There are also ads for
them by mail order in sewing magazines.  I haven't been shopping for
them, but I think they run $120 and up. 
 
A dress form would not be useful for me.  Patterns are designed to
fit a body shaped like a dress form.  I need to make a couple of
alterations to the shoulders, change the back width and drop the bust
line to get the patterns to fit *me*.  Dress forms don't come in that
shape :-)   Forms can be custom made for your body, but if you have a
change in weight, you would need a new form.  Even if your weight
stays the same, gravity often rearranges the distribution as you age. 
 
One comment I have heard about using dress forms is that
it's easy to over fit a garment on the form.  If you do use a one,
it's still a good idea to try the garment on a few times during
construction to be sure it has enough ease for you to walk, breath
and sit. 

Carolyn Peterson
carolyn@bucket.rain.com
From: gretchen@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Gretchen A Hitselberger)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: My Dream Project
Keywords: these are some of my favorite things
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:26:50 GMT
Reply-To: gretchen@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Gretchen A Hitselberger)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Nov6.202831.9490@super.org> jill@super.org (Amelia L. Scott) writes:
>How many people out there have finished a really fun 
>project lately?  Or, like me, thought about several 
>while you're working on 2?  

Just finished knitting my first lace tablecloth!!! It's pretty
basic (spiral center - pineapple middle - wheat edge - picot trim),
but it was my first knitted lace project.

Of course now that I've done that one, I have to work out many
more patterns and give them as gifts, and then I can change
some of the basic stitches around and make wonderful sweaters
and dresses and scarves and gloves and skirts and hats and then 
I could combine the knitwear with crocheting and do all kinds
of wonderful things with perhaps insets of needlelace and bobbinlace 
accents and tatting...I can't leave out tatting!!!!!

ACKKKKKK!!!!

Well, my knitting machine will be here in a few weeks.  I think the
next project will just be whatever the fiber feels like being :)

/gretchen
From: dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: advice:  dressmaker's dummy
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:28:08 GMT
Reply-To: dboyd@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.


I am thinking of sewing a dress to wear to our company's christmas party. I'd  
like to go all out and make something really fancy and elaborate.

The dress I have in mind has a lot of pieces as well as an uneven hem and I  
would like to use a dressmakers dummy. I've never used one before, is it worth  
it?

Do you know where I might find one? 
Are they expensive? 
Any chance of renting one? 
Anyone have one they don't need anymore?

Thanks for any advice you may have.

Diana

dboyd@informix.com
From: 889thurman@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: "mock batik"
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:19:45 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

This is for Carol Denehy...

I did a "batik" project in high school using melted crayons (like the
Crayola brand?) for the colors, and then dying the nearly finished 
project in a cold fabric dye(NOT hot!) . The wax was then removed by using a 
very warm iron with the batik sandwiched between layers of newspapers.
We changed the papers often, and this got rid of most of the wax.
I'm not sure, but perhaps you could inquire if a dry cleaner could get
out the rest of the wax residue.
At any rate, if you could find a place to buy the crayons in bulk, this 
could be an interesting alternative.
The project I did was a wall hanging of Adam and Eve and the apple and the
Serpent!! It turned out better than I had imagined it could.
I'm curious to see how you end up on the project, so please post it when you
finish!

* smile * Parri 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: fearnley@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Fearnley Anne)
Subject: RGB / thread number conversion 
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:18:24 GMT

At the risk of being flamed, here goes.

A while ago, a poster asked if anyone had the RGB numbers for embroidery
thread.  I followed the thread (:-)) with interest but never saw the results of
that search.

The reason that I am interested is that my brother has been doing computer aided
designing of petit-point patterns for himself.  So far it has been mostly 
abstract designs for which the precise colouring is not important (geometric
designs and pieces of the Mandelbrot set).  He lost interest in it because
of the length of reproducing more real life drawings on the computer.

Recently, he has renewed interest in his programme because my sister's boyfriend
has access to a scanner.  While he is making his programme less user hostile, 
he has asked me where he could find the RGB values for any company of embroidery
thread or tapestry wool (he is quite sure that with one, he could find the wool
or thread he is looking for by comparing the charts in the craft store).

So I ask you, did you find what you wanted previous poster?  Could you share 
your findings with me and Paul?  Net people, do you have any ideas?  My brother
has already phoned Coats and DMC but they don't know.  He cannot make samplers
and scan them as was proposed on the net previously, because the scanner in 
question can only scan thin things (it is really only for paper).

The previous poster on this subject got very badly flamed :-(.  I really do
not want it to happen to me.  Paul has no intention of ever selling either his
programme or his drawings or even his finished work.  This is just for fun!!
This posting is so long so that I will maybe not be flamed.

Anne
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: Dyeing advice
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:02:17 GMT

I am thinking of doing some batik as my next fiber project and would
like advice from anyone on 1) books or other written material on
current techniques (I haven't done this in 20 years), 2) any personal
experience anyone wants to share, 3) sources for dyes in Australia, 
since I would prefer not mail order from the US. I can only do this
if I can do it cheap.

By the way, on removing wax from batik which was discussed here a while
back, I noted a follow-up in Threads suggesting hot water cooking
to release wax, and cultivation of a friendly dry-cleaner. It was
pointed out the there is no reasonable way to dispose of kerosene
with wax dissolved in it.

Carol Denehy

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: aviva@ultra.com (Aviva Garrett)
Subject: Re: recent/current projects
Reply-To: aviva@ultra.com (Aviva Garrett)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:57:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.224502.25819@tessi.com> ann@tessi.com (Ann Makarias) writes:
>(BTW, anyone have any ideas about what to do with 1/2 yard of this
>gorgeous fabric?)

Make a vest, or if you don't have enough fabric, make the front
of a vest and used the lining fabric for the back.

..Aviva


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Aviva Garrett
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Daggett Drive / San Jose CA 95134
aviva@ultra.com  ...!ames!ultra!aviva  (408) 922-0100
From: hartley@centerline.com (Timm Hartley)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: advice: dressmaker's dummy
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:36:10 GMT
Followup-To: rec.crafts.textiles
Organization: CenterLine Software
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.12.11

In article <carolyn.721423779@bucket>, carolyn@bucket.rain.com (Carolyn
Peterson) wrote:
>  
> A dress form would not be useful for me.  Patterns are designed to
> fit a body shaped like a dress form.  I need to make a couple of
> alterations to the shoulders, change the back width and drop the bust
> line to get the patterns to fit *me*.  Dress forms don't come in that
> shape :-)   Forms can be custom made for your body, but if you have a
> change in weight, you would need a new form.  Even if your weight
> stays the same, gravity often rearranges the distribution as you age. 

There was an interesting article in the new issue of "Threads" on altering
the shape of a dress form to match what nature has given you. It involves
the use of batting and fusable interfacing. The batting changes the shape
and then you press the interfacing in place to hold the whole thing
together.
I thought it was pretty neat myself.

       Timm Hartley I Production Assistant
CenterLine Software I hartley@centerline.com
      10 Fawcett St I "Back off man! Don't 
Cambridge, MA 02138 I make me use this!!"
                         -Ren Hoek-
From: sbowen@gmuvax.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Crochet bookmark pattern request
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:48:58 -0500
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, VA.

This was the original posting, minus the header.
Hope this helps.

Sue

This is a very nice crocheted bookmark pattern from Kathryn Shipp on Prodigy.
For a very dainty bookmark use a finer crochet thread and make the shell tail
longer.

PINEAPPLE BOOKMARK

Size:  Approximately 9" long
Materials:  Bedspread weight crochet cotton, 25 yards
            Size 7 steel crochet hook

Gauge:  One shell (2 dc, ch 3, 2 dc) is 1/2"

Instructions: 

Beg with foundation ring, ch 8, join with a sl st to form a ring.

Ch 3, dc in ring, work (ch 3, 2dc in ring) 7 times;

ch 3, join with a sl st in top of beg ch 3;

  8 ch 3 sps (foundation ring completed).

DO NOT FINISH OFF

CONTINUE BY WORKING BACK AND FORTH IN ROWS AS FOLLOWS:

Row 1:  Ch 5, do not turn; work (2dc, ch 3, 2dc) in next ch 3 sp (shell made),

        work a shell in next ch 3 sp (leave remaining sps unworked).

Row 2:  Ch 5, turn; work a shell in sp of each shell.

Rows 3 through 14:  rep Row 2, 12 times.

Row 15:  Ch 5, turn; shell in sp of first shell, ch 5, shell in sp of next 

         shell.

Row 16:  Ch 5, turn; shell in sp of first shell, ch 2 work 9 trc in next

         ch 5 sp (for base of pineapple), ch 2, shell in sp of next shell.

Row 17:  Ch 5, turn; shell in sp of first shell, ch 2, sk next ch 2 sp,

         sc in first trc of pineapple, (ch 3, sc in next trc of pineapple)

	 8 times; ch 2, sk next ch 2 sp, shell in sp of next shell.

Row 18:  Ch 5, turn; shell in sp of first shell, ch 2 sk next ch 2 sp,

	 sc in first sp of pineapple, (ch 3, sc in next sp of pineapple)

	 7 times; ch 2, sk next ch 2 sp, shell in sp of next shell.

Rows 19 through 24:  Rep Row 18, 6 times, having 1 ch 3 sp less on pine-

                     apple on each row. (NOTE:  At end of Row 24, you should

                     have one sp on top of pineapple.)

Row 25:  Ch 5, turn; shell in sp of first shell, ch 2, sk next ch 2 sp, 

         sc in last sp of pineapple; ch 2, sk next ch 2 sp, shell in sp of

	 next shell.

Row 26:  Ch 5, turn; 2 dc in sp of first shell, sk next two ch 2 sps, 2 dc

         in sp of next shell; ch 4, sk next dc of shell, sl st in next dc.

         Finsih off; weave in ends.



Enjoy!
Linda Casey
Modesto, California, USA
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: Jeff Adams
Subject: Re: RGB / thread number conversion 
Reply-To: jeffa@wri.com
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:21:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.231824.5482@cc.umontreal.ca> fearnley@ERE.UMontreal.CA  
(Fearnley Anne) writes:
> A while ago, a poster asked if anyone had the RGB numbers for embroidery
> thread.  I followed the thread (:-)) with interest but never saw the results 

Given the fact that companies themselves have probably not done this, the only  
logical option is to by color swatches and match them up with the floss and go  
from there.  Although if I am not mistaken, there is a very big issue here  
involving calibrated RGB colors.  If you go out and buy color swatches, the  
matching color numbers, be it CMYK or Pantone numbers, are usually made so that  
color PRINTING matches the floss not the color on the computer MONITOR itself.   
Some very expensive color systems deal with these problems as well as some  
computer companies (NeXT for instance, now supports calibrated RGB colors so  
that the color on the screen matches much more closely to what is printed (not  
an exact science though I am lead to believe).

What I am basically saying is that if you come up with specific RGB values they  
will not necessarily look good on someone elses monitor and/or color printing  
process.  This is why (I think) there exists CMYK standards and the Pantone  
matching color system.  Perhaps someone reading with more knowledge on  
computers and colors can comment.

	Jeff
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Christmas knitting projects wanted
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:55:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Hello,

I'm asking for help again.  This time there might
be others interested in the same thing.

I was wondering if there are books or other sources
available that have patterns for decorations for
Christmas.  I once had patterns for bells and small
socks suitable for hanging on trees or having as
favors at Christmas gatherings.  Any sources or
information would be appreciated.

Please e-mail replies or post.

Evelyn
--
From: vln@icpsr.umich.edu (Victoria Neff)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: More projects
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:49:54 GMT
Organization: Inter-University Consortium for Political and Social Research
NNTP-Posting-Host: tdis.icpsr.umich.edu

In article <1689A9802.MAHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> MAHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
> 
>My old roomate and good friend Nancy, who got me back into knitting
>several years ago, called me up to tell me about going to the Spin-Off
>workshop in Wyoming, and to tell me that they do take beginners,
>and I must go next year to Noth Carolina.

I went to SOAR last year, and it was wonderful.  I wondered if I'd be out
of place, never having taken any sort of workshop or anything, but it was
great.  The levels of experience ran the gamut from VERY experienced to
people who knew a LOT less than I did.

It was my first experience of being somewhere for a week where everyone
wanted to talk spinning.  It was VERY exciting.  I was worried that I'd
have a terrible time being ready for breakfast by 8:00 (as I don't ususally
wake up until after that), but in fact I woke up earlier and earlier every
day because I was so excited thinking about what I could do with the things
I was learning.  I even went out and walked the par cours one morning BEFORE
breakfast!!  Not like me at all!!

And spinners are a small enough group that you get to hobnob with the
Real Stars.  I took a workshop from Rita Buchanan (who is TERRIFIC -- if
you ever get a chance to study with her, GRAB it with both hands!).  And
in addition to meeting the Human Stars, you get to meet the Garments, too.
"Oh, I know that vest!" -- because it's been featured in SPIN-OFF.

>                                     This attention to the process rather
>than the result left my hands much looser, kept me from hanging on
>too long, and on the whole allowed me to get much better results.
>it's the Zen of Wool, or something :-).

All right!!!

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: jill@super.org (Amelia L. Scott)
Subject: Weekend Weaving Stuff
Followup-To: post it or jill@super.org 
Summary: more on the 3-bears project, etc. 
Keywords: weave, rosepath, 3 bears, dollhouse
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:48:45 GMT

Well, Friday I put out a post about a small piece of 
woven fabric that I'm going to do as a dollhouse rug
for a friend of mine.  I was using the Rosepath designs
in the _8-Shaft Patterns_ book edited by Strickler.  I 
thought that I'd do an 8"x11" piece entitled "The Three 
Bears Take a Walk in the Woods," with three rows of the
bear designs and a few rows of flower & butterfly designs
followed by rows of trees in graduated sizes.  I've 
decided to do this piece in 10/2 natural cotton as the 
background and tabby with some tapestry weight wool for 
the designs.  
	Since I've decided to do this project, I started 
bustling about this weekend prepping my "studio" for the 
actual weaving.  I found the wool that I want to use, 
wound in off onto a warping board and tied it every four
inches in preparation for washing the wool to get rid of 
excess dye, etc.  I warped the 10/2 cotton warp, tied it
up, and set it aside for now.  Now I have to get my skirt
fabric samples off of my loom so that I can work.  
	I've tried a satin treadling on this sample piece.
It just wasn't right for the yarn type, so I switched to 
twill instead.  I wove off about 3 inches at roughly 36
picks per inch.  Well, this just isn't going to do for 
5 1/2 yards of dress cloth, so I'm going to have to rethink
this.  I can weave it with a looser sett, but that would 
mean a peek-a-boo fabric.  I'm going to measure those 
pattern pieces again and see how much width I need for each
piece.  I may end up trying a second sample with an unwashed
warp to see if fulling the cloth will eliminate the problem.
I think it probably will, but I discovered another drawback.
I don't really like this yarn when it's woven by itself.  It's
sticky, prickly, and coarse when unwashed, and it looks slightly
dirty when washed.  It seems to have bits of what looks like
weed nubbins in the yarn.  It's a cotton, rayon, linen blend, so 
I suspect that the trash is from a poor quality linen in the 
blend.  I like this yarn well enough when it's mixed with 
cotton or other fiber blends, but not by itself.  I may can the
skirt project for a while. 
	Midterm exams being over, I'm just overjoyed to be able
to spend a weekend fiddling with my loom and my embroidery.

			jill@super.org
			Jill Scott-Piner

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: aviva@ultra.com (Aviva Garrett)
Subject: Re: Ideas needed: sewing for men
Reply-To: aviva@ultra.com (Aviva Garrett)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:33:34 GMT

I don't know if someone's already mentioned this, but I just
finished making my husband a shirt from a Vogue dress shirt
pattern (the kind of shirt you would wear to work with a suit),
only I made it out of a very nice chamois cotton fabric.
The shirt came out very nicely, and surprisingly it fits my husband.
I recommend this pattern highly if only because all the
finishing touches are very nice. (This is why I try to use only
Vogue patterns. Unfortunately, I can't find the woman's
equivalent of this pattern.)

I plan to use the same pattern to make him a silk shirt for a
holiday present. I bought some very nice silk at Britex in San
Francisco, and can't wait for him to go off to his Thursday
night class so I can make it in secret.

..Aviva


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