From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about:
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:31:20 GMT

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In article <1992Dec12.003238.4401@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
]No, but I doubtless shower with gay men at the health club I belong to.
]Does that give me an attack of the creeps, worrying that they may be
]staring at my tender young flesh?  Nope.
So what. We are not talking about YOUR needs. It wouldn't give me the
creeps either, but that is beside the point.
]>]In other words, only white male heterosexuals need apply, eh?
]>
]>That's right. Isn't that what I said? WHITE MALE? Did you read that
]>anywhere in my posting? Since you can't refute my arguments, you are
]>now making up ones that you CAN attack. 
]
]But since you're worried that those daring young men will be upset because
]they have to work with different kinds of people, you'd better keep them
]homogeneous, eh?
They have to work now with all sorts of different kinds of people. You know
that I am talking about a very specific case, so why act otherwise.
]
]>]>I once watched a group of my company mates beat a
]>]>"scrounge" (Navy term for one who doesn't bathe) until his back was broken.
]>]
]>]Holy shit!  What kind of revolting little leech would just stand by and
]>]let a bunch of assholes cripple someone else in his group?
]>
]>Fuck you too, charlie. You had to be there. It becomes more and more
]>obvious that you live in some sort of ivory tower and have no appreciation
]>for how the world really works. An no, in spite of your verbal masturbations,
]>Since you want to call me a revolting little leech (which is pretty
]>amusing considering that I weight well over 200 pounds),
]>It becomes imcumbent on me to call you a moron who
]>jumps to conclusions on the flimsiest of evidence, and then publicly
]>calls people names. Does the term "asshole" apply here?
]
]You just stood by and watched your bunkies break another one's back and
]_I'm_ the asshole? 
Yes, for jumping to such conclusions and calling me names based on them.
Your false conclusions include:
  -I knew they were going to break his back (I didn't - he fell out of the
bunk while they were giving him a blanket party).
  -I could have stopped them if I did know.

With those false conclusions, you proceed to label me a "revolting little
leech." Yep, fits the asshole definition in my book!
]
]>]>Folks, the military is NOT a nice place, it is NOT a tea party, and it should
]>]>NOT be a place to try out all our feel-good social experiments!
]>]
]>]It isn't a social experiment.  Gays are accepted as equal members of society
]>]by all kinds of people.  The military is likely to be next...
]>
]>It is a social experiment. It hasn't been done yet, has it? That makes
]>it an experiment. And no, gays are NOT accepted as equal members
]>of society - try being gay and adopting a kid.
]
]And this is the perfect time to try that experiment.  For people who have
]the balls.  People who haven't probably needn't apply anyway.
Oh, now you admit it is an experiment. Now, pray tell me why now is the
perfect time to try that experiment? Do you have some capability to
foretell the future and you can see that the military won't need unit
cohesion for a while? Considering that just today the US military was
involved in combat, I think you are a bit off. On the other hand, other
comments of yours make it clear that you are a brick short of a load, so
why should I be surprised?


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