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From: Tom@freddyk.uucp (Thomas Langenback)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Borg are here!!!
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 03:49:34 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nightmares R Us

jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) says:
>In <1992Sep4.152433.20098@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stanaway@ssd.comm.mot.com (Chris Stanaway) writes:
>
>>Flipping through a store catalog the other day, something caught
>>my eye.  Looking closer it was one of those scales (the kind you
>>have in bathrooms to weigh yourself).  What shocked me was the
>>name of the manufacturer:   BORG
>
>I know those spy-devices-disguised-as-scales have been among us for
>quite some time!
>My wife bought one soon after the demise of 'Locutus of Borg' was
>aired.
>
>>We're in trouble now :-)
>
>Don't I know it!!
>Imagine how much they will have infiltrated our society 400
>years from now!!
This explains what I saw the last time I went to visit my father.  About 1/2
mile from his house, there's a place called "BORG Compressed Steel".  I would
assume that this is actually where  building thier ships!  And they're
building them with metal that THEY'VE BOUGHT FROM US!!

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From: pfritsch@skid.ps.uci.edu (Paul Fritschle)
Subject: Re: Jeff Stryker in ST: TNG?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Distribution: usa
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:08:37 GMT

Hrm.. could they fit *all* of him into those tight pants, though? ;p

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From: "stephen feldman" <stephen.feldman@canrem.com>
Subject: virtual reality & st
Reply-To: "stephen feldman" <stephen.feldman@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:53:50 EST

Hi Y'all!

I just got back from a press conference/preview for the Canadian
Computer Show for 1992 in Toronto which was held at Virtuality Canada,
the makers of the neat Virtual Reality system that has been on show at
the CNE, RPM and a variety of malls around the country and will be at
this year's CCS at the Toronto International Centre, Nov 23-26.

The thing that really caught my attention was a conversation with one of
the employees at V/C who said that the next generation (no pun intended,
yet) of machines will allow you to pit yourself against either Kirk or
Picard in a 3-5 minute escape into Virtual Reality.

He didn't go into details, as he mentioned that it won't be out for
about another 6 or so months... but I thought WOW, a Trekie's dream!!!

- Stephen
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From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Re: STVI
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:56:42 GMT

rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman) writes:

>wcsbeau@alfred.carleton.ca (OPIRG) writes:

>>rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
>>>cmiller@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Catherine Miller) writes:

>>>>In one episode of ST:TNG, I heard Troi referred to as "Sir".  Does any
>>>>one know why "sir" instead of "ma'am"?0

>>>Presumably because she's an officer.  Therefore she was referred to as "sir"
>>>for the same reason Lt. Saavik was in Star Trek II.

>>So far as I can remember, all females on/in Trek (all series) are
>>refered to as "Sir", at least by those of lower rank.  I can't think
>>of any times when they were reffered to as "ma'am".  Can anyone else?

>   Certainly.  Lt. Valeris was referred to as ma'am in ST6 (the scene
>in the transporter room with her co-conspirators)...  personally,
>I think the editors slipped up, and let that one get by them.

My benign theory is that those conspirators were not actually starfleet
guys, and didn't know about the "sir" rule.  Or else I'm just another
flaky geek who likes to believe in stupid conspiracy theories.
From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: burger king
Keywords: ames burger king
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:50:18 GMT
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory

In article <wh20.715634053@vincent1.iastate.edu>, wh20@iastate.edu (Gregory D Westwater) writes:
|> the burger king on downtown lincolnway cheats customers.  they gave me a
|> punch card, and now that i am getting bigger and bigger items for free, they
|> have stopped honoring the card.  They said it is impossible that they gave me
|> the card and that they have|> n't seen them before.  BULLL!!!!!!!!!!!!

   Piccard: "Mr. Worf, lock phasers on the Lincoln Way Burger King."
   Worf   : "Phasers locked and ready, Captain."
   Piccard: "FIRE!"
   Worf   : "Yes, sir."
   <phaser sounds and nifty special effects...>
   Worf   : "Direct hit, Captain."
   Piccard: "Very good. That should avenge our friend Mr. Westwater."

-- Tim
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: "Time's Arrow" foreshadowing? NO SPOILERS
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:44:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.101509.5181@gw.wmich.edu> 885celio@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>Has anyone noticed that if you say "Time's Arrow" a few times really fast
>it starts to sound like "Time Zero"?

>Coincidence?...
>				--Gail

If you read "Time's Arrow" backwards, it sounds like "Wore a Semit."
What is a semit?

HOWEVER, if you *say* "Time's Arrow" backwards, it definitely sounds
like "I buried Data."

Coincidence?  YOU decide!

;-)
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From: djredick@bluemoon.use.com (Darrin J. Redick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Scotty's return:  What rank?
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:04:40 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

landrews@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews) writes:

> >Anyone taking bets on what rank Mr. Scott will have when he returns
> >to TNG?  By my observation, he was a commander in TWOK, a captain in TSFS,
> >a commander again in TVH, and a captain again in TFF and TUC.  
> >
> >I guess he and Riker have trouble accepting authority.
> 
> Well, it is a bit weird.  Admiral Morrow tells him he is a Captain in TSFS --
> 
> So perhaps his promotion was delayed all the way until the end of Star Trek I
 
No eye for detail at all...look CLOSELY at the shoulder strap in III when
Scotty is walking towards the turbolift in the Excelsior engine room.  It
CLEARLY shows his insignia as CAPTAIN, esp. in the closeup of him & 
Styles.

As for him being a commander in IV, that was the studio's fault.  His
rank was mistakenly made a commander, instead of a captain.

> 
> But he's probably a captain or admiral in ST:TNG.
> 
I'm willing to bet that he will be Captain.

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From: amcmicha@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrew McMichael)
Subject: More on names
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:52:39 GMT


This topic has gotten pretty far off the beaten path.   I put in a 
'yes' for LeVar Geordie. I like it.


Btw, in many cultures, they wait unitl *after* the child is 
born to pick a name, so they can see what the kid looks like.



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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: baycon '92 questions
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:20:08 EST

I just read the "Baycon '92" post in rec.arts.startrek.info and I am
quite furious!  Spoilers for those who haven't read it yet...


















The wall-of-ships in the Observation Lounge was DESTROYED during the
shooting of Star Trek VI?  I don't BELIEVE that! How could they be so
careless?  Also, can anybody vouch that little tidbit of information?
The poster said that Andy (whoever he is) says he's "lost" it and can't
find it, but a fan screamed out "It was destroyed in STVI!".  So is this
true?  Will they replace it?  I never even noticed it was gone...  When
was the last episode it appeared in?


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INTERNET: bernie.wong@canrem.com


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From: Tom@freddyk.uucp (Thomas Langenback)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:47:17 GMT
Organization: Nightmares R Us

brownga@wkuvx1.bitnet says:
>In article <1992Sep10.114938.17576@linus.mitre.org>, m13079@mwunix (Mary Anne Walters) writes:
>> In article <TIGGER.92Sep10014537@satyr.Sylvan.COM> tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan) writes:
>>>we almost named our little son "Christopher Robin" but we did refrain.
>>>But "Robin (of the woods) Sylvan" might not be any better :-)
>>>

[REAMS AND REAMS of Non-Trek B.S. deleted]

>Who cares, take this crap somewhere else!!!
I agree, WHOLE-HEARTEDLY!
 
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From: edjans01@orion.spd.louisville.edu (David Jansing)
Subject: Re: ncc1701/d
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:46:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Louisville

In <1992Sep15.192027.9144@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> amcmicha@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrew McMichael) writes:

>What class starship is the Enterprise-D?  Just curious. Thanks.

It is a Galaxy class vessel.

Oh . . . You're Welcome.

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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Plots for 2 shows
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:49:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.232521.3083@wdl.loral.com> trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort) writes:

>I missed a couple of episodes and need a brief plot description for:
>
>1) Imaginary Friend

Lame Child Episode.

>2) Cost of Living

Lame Luxana/Alexander/tacked-on-menace episode.


>Thanks loads,
>-- Tim


Is that brief enough?  Best advice: when these episodes come 'round
again, _run_away_.

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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why San Francisco?
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:11:29 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <2924794412.7.p00123@psilink.com> p00123@psilink.com (Seth M. Dworken) writes:
<Another reason is that Industrial Light and Magic (ILM), George Lucas'
<special effects company that does the effects for the show, is located in 
<Marin County.  Marin is the county at the other side of the Golden Gate 
<bridge from SFO.
<
<So that means that lots of work for each show is actually done in the area,
<and it would be logical to use a familiar locale...

ILM DOES NOT do any work on ST:TNG or ST:DSN.  They only do work on the movies.

While they DID do work on the first episode, "Encounter at Farpoint", it
was the last.  Because of contractual reasons and because part of the opening
sequence was produced by ILM, they still get an on-screen credit.
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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Explanation of Inner Light
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:35:47 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Sep14.171434.21168@mlb.semi.harris.com>, mwp@ms9 (Mark W. Poole) writes:
>I just saw "Inner Light" for the first time this weekend, and
>really got lost at the end.  I didn't understand how Pickard's
                                                         ^
There's no `k' in `Picard'...  --------------------------|

>wife and friend could all of a sudden show up at the end, just
>as the missile was being launched....and what happened to 
>Pickard's character on the planet after he returned to
>consiousness on the Enterprise?  It really threw me.

Let's take a look at what we know:

  1. The planet (sorry, don't recall the name off hand)  was completely
     destroyed ~1000 years before the Enterprise encountered the probe.

  2. The technological level of the civilization was limited -- for instance,
     there was no evidence that they could have 2-way communication across
     time.

The logical conclusion is that everything we saw in the episode took place
on the Enterprise in Picard's mind, and on the probe.

My best guess is that the probe was some kind of "holodeck for the mind",
containing information to simulate a bit of the culture and people of those
who built it.  Thus, Batai, Eleen and all the others never met Picard -- only
computer simulations of them did.  This still leaves the question of how they
crammed 30+ years of experience into 25 minutes, but IMHO its a reasonable
explanation, as far as it goes.

-- 
You unlock this door with the key of imagination.  Beyond it is another
dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... the Twilight Zone.
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From: michael_robbins@mentorg.com
Subject: Transfigurations Actor (-tress)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:15:16 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation

I just saw a rerun of Transfigurations ( i think) and was very taken by what
appeared to be a guest role by Julie Warner.  She played Geordie's love
interest ... Ms. Christy something....

Unfortunately, I did not tape it and missed the intro.  Was this indeed her
(Doc Hollywood, Ms. Saturday Night)?  If not, who is she?

Thanks for clearing my brain...

Mick
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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: stng unification??
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:17:43 GMT

"bernie wong"  writes:
> >Spock doesn't look much older than in ST VI:TUC
> 
> What baffles me is that Nimoy looks older in real life sans-makeup than
> he did as an 120+ year old Vulcan in Unification!  :-)   Man, he looked
> OOOOOLD in the 25th Anniversary Special.
> 
 Ahhh!  The wonders of make-up and cinamatography!

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: star trek pranks
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 10:44:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.3208.10682@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>>Maybe all of the non-humanoid actors are... Oh wait, there are none. My
>The only non-humanoid important character I can think of are possible
>the Sheliak from "Ensigns Of Command" or the Fish Guys in the Lwaxana
>Troi episode.  Anyways, I just saw The Last Starfighter on TV last night
>and I must say that those aliens they had were pretty cool.  My all time
>favs were the brown-scaled guy and the bad guys with the eyes slightly
>more spaced out than us humans.  They were pretty good, also considering
>they were humanoids.
>
>Besides, non-humanoid characters like Snufalupagus on Sesame Street
>would be totally stupid and fake looking.  Either that or they would
>look slightly fake and only good for far away shots like the space
>faring alien from the season 4 episode where Leah Brahms comes aboard...
>Sorry, I'm bad with episode names today!!! :-)
>
>
Agreed, that would look silly, but it is possible to do non-humanoids and
get them right.  I will cite Doctor Who again: their most popular aliens
are the decidedly non-humanoid Daleks, and there is a slug-like little
squidgy aquatic villain called Sil in a coulple of Colin Baker stories.


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Subject: Re: ST:DSN Cast Announced
From: kennedy_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:05:30 GMT
Reply-To: kennedy_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <z9lnvxp@lynx.unm.edu>, haro@carina.unm.edu (    KANEDA) writes:
>ARE ALL THE BEST LEADERS BALD?????
>
>
>RICK
>
Relating this to real life for a moment:
Our Prime Minister has a full head of hair...hmmm
In answer to you question:
Yeah the best ones are bald...
<grin>

Hang on a second!!!!!!!!!
Are you saying Capt. James T Kirk was NOT a good leader????

Wash your mouth out with soap! Blasphemy!!!!
:-)

JAK
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re:  BORG and the Vulcans
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:23:06 GMT
Reply-To: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: nova@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu

sundaram@cps.msu.edu asked why the Vulcans don't welcome the Borg.

The best answer, to me, is to be found in a novel by Diane Carey called
DREADNOUGHT.  For those of you who haven't read it, it basically deals
with the attempt of a Starfleet Vice-Admiral to take over the Federation, 
the Klingon Empire, the Romulan Empire, the Orion Compact, etc...
In any case, the main character figures this out and explains it to her 
Vulcan companion.  His response:

"We would be the first to rebel against such foolish unity."

Seems to me that says it all.

__NOVA__
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From: gbloom@zeus.calpoly.edu (Dark Elf (Gregg Bloom))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Yet again, "Dark Elf" moans:
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:35:38 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Consistently, obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien) continues to bitch:
>In article <1992Sep13.183006.173479@zeus.calpoly.edu> gbloom@zeus.calpoly.edu (Dark Elf (Gregg Bloom)) writes:
>>Yet again, [victim name omitted] moans:
>
>[victim quote omitted]
>
>>-- 
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>>			         		        drow@rever.nmsu.edu
>>It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man.
>>					- Jack Handey
>
>
>Apparently, Gregg has modified his newsreader to attribute quotes thusly.
>I found it quite insulting when applied to my words.
>I see that he is an 'equal opportunity' annoyance.
>
>I've quoted his address in full here, because I've already told him once of
>*my* annoyance.  If no one agrees with me, then please ignore this post
>and don't bother Gregg.
>
>I think he takes those "Jack Handey" quotes literally, rather than as the
>examples of stupidity they are intended to be.

Ahhh... NOW he tells me why he's been sending nasty mail to me...  Why
didn't you just say so instead of calling me all those nasty names over
email?  Gosh... I wonder what all these fine people would do if they knew
your true, offensive nature.  Frankly, I never TRIED to do anything to piss
you off, and if you insist on continuing to act immaturely, YOU will be the
one to look foolish.
Well... I've put in my two cents... 
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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: I Borg question + a couple more(spoiler?)
Date: 5 Sep 92 03:25:24 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Sep5.000235.19003@gtc.com>, dav@gtc (David L. Markowitz) writes:
>lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
>
>>> ... The Borg then says, "Do *I* have a name?"
>
>>Let's admit it! They screwed up!
>
[...]
>I don't think it was a screwup at all.  I'd call it foreshadowing.

Well, I'd belive it except for one thing -- every time TNG has used
foreshadowing, it's always been about as subtle as a fart in an
elevator.

Kinda reminds me of a line I saw in a parody... ah, yes -- here it is:

#Geordi:   Sir, this doesn't make any sense.  This is an ordinary
#          plate glass window, and yet it looks out onto open
#          space.  It should shatter under the pressure.
#
#
#Riker:    That's nothing compared to what I think we're going to
#          find.
#
#Worf:     OOoooo.  Foreshadowing.

I'm sorry.  You'll have to go a long way to convince me that the same
nit-wits that gave us "New Ground", "Imaginary Friend", and "The Cost
of Living" are capable of that level of subtle meaning.

-- 
Dave Schaumann			dave@cs.arizona.edu
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