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From: pebly@VNET.IBM.COM (Bob Pebly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Live at Comdex
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:09:39 GMT
Reply-To: pebly@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Industrial Sector Division, Boca Raton, FL

In <9204071911.AA08145@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Bob Pebly writes:
>Just finished watching Lee Reiswig demo OS/2 2.0 live at Comdex.  The
>last item in the demo was a copy of Windows =>3.1<= running in a
>window on the 2.0 desktop!                    ~~~

I just got some clarification on what was demoed at the end of
yesterday's OS/2 Live from Comdex show.  It actually was Windows 3.1
running seamless on top of OS/2 2.0 (not the GA version, but an update).
I don't know how/if/when the update will be available.

Bob Pebly

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's view, not those of IBM.
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Config.sys questions
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:45:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr17.134551.6474
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)



I have been looking over the config.sys file, trying to optimize performance
for a computer running with four megs of memory and it hasn't been
all that easy.

These devices from the default config.sys are undocumented and obtuse:

testcfg.sys
dos.sys
pmdd.sys
sasyncd.sys
vpdx.sys
vwin.sys

And I cant figure out the difference between:

ibm1s506.add
os2dasd.dmd

What is 'epath =' used for ? 

When using 386 protected mode with virtual 8086 mode, isn't 'protectonly =' 
and out dated left over from 1.x?

When would it be useful to specify a large initial swap file?

What rules should be followed for ordering?  I've noticed that many
lines do not want to be rearranged.


Any answers would be appreciated.  I hope to be able to put together
a streamlined config.sys for use with AT class computers with 4 megs
that could possibly be added to the faq.
-- 
"We have developed Windows applications, but we didn't inhale."
          -Philippe Kahn, Borland International
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Subject: Re: CAD under GA...?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:39:53 GMT

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:


>>Will Autocad work under OS/2 or do I have to dual-boot to dos?

>Releases 10 and 12 will work (the former is available for OS/2, the
>latter is in beta).  Release 11 currently will not because it uses a
>VCPI DOS extender.

There is a newer version of autoCAD 386 (R11c2) that includes
a revised version of the PharLap DOS extender that is designed
to work with EMS extended memory.  I thought (hoped) this one 
would work under OS/2.  Am I wrong?  I won't be able to 
test this until I get my copy of OS/2 2.0 but I would like to
know if anyone has tried this newer version under OS/2.

By the way, the original AutoCAD R11 DOS extender can be easily
upgraded for EMS compatibility using a utility supplied by AutoDESK.  
I think its available for free from them.  (not sure though)

-- 
Jon Hacker
Caltech, Pasadena CA
hacker@tumbler-ridge.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: leager@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Chris A. Leazer)
Subject: OS/2 Upgrade Application Needed
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 07:41:52 GMT


Hey!

	Could someone PLEASE e-mail me an Application for OS/2 2.0.
I need the upgrade from Windows application.  I have found the regular 
OS/2 1.3 upgrade no problem but can NOT find the Windows upgrade.
Can someone please help me?

	Thanks a lot,
	Chris A. Leazer
	leager@catt.ncsu.edu

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From: jjs@ubitrex.mb.ca (John Joseph Strybosch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Anyone got GA in Winnipeg area?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:23:00 GMT
Distribution: mb
Organization: Ubitrex Corporation, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Originator: jjs@ubitrex.mb.ca

I have a problem with my current hardware configuration
that the boot manager may be able to solve.  I can't 
really wait until my upgrade arrives to find out if
it will work.  I'm wondering if some kind soul in the
area has GA so I can play with the boot manager to
see if I am going to have to replace one of my hard-drives
or not.

If you have more questions, or anything let me know.
I can give _full_ details of my problem and how
I hope to solve it with the boot manager.  I have
sent away for my upgrade and will be glad to demonstrate
ownership of 1.2EE.  

If you are familiar with the boot manager I would
be thrilled to just be able to ask you the a few
specific questions.
 
Thanks
JJ
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: IBM, are you listening? (Was: Windoze 3.1 is here.)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:35:12 GMT

Gerry Thome--gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM writes:
>
>What to I do all day ?  I spend AT LEAST 2 hours a day keeping up with
>this newsgroup and work I take upon myself to solve issues brought up here.

I have been very impressed with IBMers' involvement and openness in
this newsgroup.  I just wish more IBM people were as informed as you.
I have never actually met any IBM rep that was up on the latest 
developments in the OS/2 world.  Even the IBM people who demoed 2.0 
here in Columbus were weeks and months behind in what they knew about
OS/2 (they were astonished about Stac's development of Stacker for
OS/2, they were hesitant about future support for Win 3.1, they didn't
know about ALT-CTRL-SHFT-o on the desktop...) 

Hey IBM, I need a job come summer.  How about letting me do PR for
OS/2 in Ohio???  :-) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Video problem - Optima VGA
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:23:03 GMT

In article <11455@mindlink.bc.ca> Rob_Mayhew@mindlink.bc.ca (Rob Mayhew) writes:
>I've been trying to run V. 2.0 beta 6.177 LA, but without success. It installs
>and loads fine, but the video breaks up any time I try to start a Windows or
>DOS app. It seems that OS2 keeps running (and maybe the app too), but it's hard
>to be sure when you can't read the display!
>The VGA adapter is an Optima 1024, running on a Tseng 3000 chip, and driving a
>640x480 colour monitor. The box is a Datatrain 3016SX (386SX CPU); OS2 is
>installed in its own 30MB HPFS partition on a Boot Manager setup. The system
>has 40MB and 105MB hard drives, and 4MB of RAM. Video and ROM shadowing is
>disabled.
>Anyone got any suggestions?

Short of getting GA (which has base SuperVGA support), you should
double check that neither DOS nor Windows is trying to use a mode that
is outside the VGA spec.  If you were moving up from DOS or Windows
you may have been using such a driver.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: restoring icons??
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 02:42:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: comp

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
: In article <7cwj_va.rcain@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
: >One more time.  The only way to backup and restore undr DOS is full disk
: >image.  The EA DATA.SF has real sector addresses implied that don't mean
: >squat if files are restored to different places. Elegant, huh.
: 
: ...But won't a CHKDSK /F (from OS/2 boot disk) after a RESTORE
: reattach these extended attributes?

Timothy, it didn't under 6.177 or 6.304.  Maybe GA has found a way.  I
wouldn't know about that :-(  I wish someone would try it so I can stop
bitching if it has.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: horan@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Optimizing Disks Under OS/2
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:44:18 GMT

It seems that speedisk (NU) will not work well with OS/2, so I was
wondereing if there was some means of disk optimization?

Does OS/2 have it's own method, or do you have to get a specific one.
Another way would be to boot DOS, I guess, but I'd rather not.

5000
Gregg Horan

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr)
Subject: Re: ever changing NT (MS running scared...?)
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:02:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.193612.17778@digi.lonestar.org> jgay@digi.lonestar.org (john gay) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.013849.3705@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prs@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Phillip R. Scarr) writes:
>>
>>It's really amazing what kinds of developments you can have on a piece
>>of software when it doesn't really exist yet!  The sky's the limit!  I
>>heard that NT was going to support multiple CMS sessions on an 8088!
>>Yep, it's true!  Bill Gates told me himself!  What's that you say? NT is
>>coming bundled with a 20ppm PostScript laser printer for the unbeatable
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^
>uh, actually, shouldn't that be TrueType? ;-)

No no no!  That was YESTERDAY.  Today we FULLY support the Adobe line of
fonts.  Wait, no, that WAS yesterday, today we support NT
FontMasterXpress (tm), it will be a full 128bit vectorbitmapfontscale
system with optional joystick support.  Yessiree, Windows NT, the best
OS that might not never be!  WHeeeeeeee!

>
>>price of $99.95?  WOW!  Bill Gates sure is a hell of a guy...
>>
>>	-Phil
>
>
>john gay.                      jgay@digi.lonestar.org
>
>OS/2 - opens the windows for a breath of fresh air.

	-Phil
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Subject: Re: OS/2 musings
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:53:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.084053.24520@news.Hawaii.Edu> tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes:
>One of the reasons IBM gave for delaying the release of OS/2 version 2.0
>was that they didn't want to flood the distribution channels, only to
>have distributors restock in just a few months when new functionality,
>as requested by users, became available.  As a result, the December 1991
>release deadline was met with something that became known as Limited
>Availability (LA), and the flooding of distribution channels was delayed
>until General Availability (GA), which occurred on March 31 of this year.
>
>Now we are hearing that new functionality (such as the full 32-bit graphics
>engine, seamless Windows support for higher resolution video adaptors,
>Windows 3.1 support, and so on) will be provided in just a few months via
>the Corrective Service Diskette (CSD) mechanism.
>
>So the question becomes, why didn't IBM go ahead and flood the distribution
>channels in December, and provide those things for which GA was delayed via
>the CSD mechanism?

They would have been slaughtered.  The Dec. 6.177h LA release was
"Not Ready For Prime Time"

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Andrew Bros <bros@convex.COM>
Subject: CCFD:  comp.os.os2.announce (was comp.os2.announce)
Originator: bros@mikey.convex.com
Reply-To: bros@convex.COM (Andrew Bros)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 21:34:58 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Apr9.135013.12830@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita) writes:
>
>This is not official -- as I don't know how to do it or anything,
>but I would like to see (but am not willing to moderate) a
>moderated OS/2 newsgroup.
>
>Frank Fujita

  I think this is a good idea.  The current splitting under vote now
will help, but a moderated announcement group would be a godsend.
Only one thing: the name should be comp.os.os2.announce, to keep the
newsgroup hierarchy consistent.

-- 
Andrew Bros				bros@convex.com
Technical Assistance Center		Convex Computer Corporation
Hacker's Dictionary:  DOS: Dain-bramaged Operating System
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: HPFS and Memory
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:43:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.160426.2863@news.cs.brandeis.edu> rothman@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>My copy of GA is in the mail and i'm still a bit confused about some things.
>I have a 386sx-25 with 4megs of RAM, 125mb ide hard drive, ami bios, and et4000 super vga.
>Right now i have one big dos 5 partition, but what i was going to do is split it in half, i.e. ~60 megs for FAT and ~60 megs for HPFS.  Now i hear that HPFS is painful on a 4 meg system.  Why?

Well, I tried (foolishly).  Reason?  The HPFS driver itself occupies
500K or so.  Imagine having to keep that much code in memory whenever
you do a disk read/write to a HPFS partition.  On a 4 MB system, you
just don't have that much RAM to give up.  That 500K is more useful to
OS/2 for running applications on a 4 MB machine.  Once you get to an 8
MB machine, then IBM suggests that HPFS is a good idea.  At 6 MB or
below, stick with FAT.

It is sort of the reason you don't choose a 2 MB cache size on a 4 MB
machine.  You are striving for balanced performance in your system,
and HPFS is not recommended toward that goal in machines with 6 MB or
less.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: AmiPro2.0 & Pm4.0 Seamless and Buglets
From: slam@desire.wright.edu
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:50:10 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Apr14.170303.956@desire.wright.edu>, slam@desire.wright.edu writes:
> Hello one and all. I've got sort of a perplexing problem. I'm trying to
> install AmiPro 2.0 as a seamless Win app on the desktop (2.0 GA). I installed
> the program under Win-OS/2 and then proceeded to migrate the app to the
> desktop. Everything went fine but AmiPro became installed as a full-screen
> app. I proceeded to change the settings but I find that everything in the
> Windows section is grayed except for the Full-Screen option.
> 
> Am I missing something??
> 
> SC Lam - slam@eve.wright.edu 

Ok! After fiddling around, I finally got AmiPro 2.0 working seamless.
I goofed because I did not have the proper video drivers. Duhhhh...

I even managed to get Aldus Pagemaker to install in seamless mode also.
Initially, I ran into problems. PM 4.0 could not find several DLLs which
were in the ALDUS\ directory. The solution was to include the path of that
directory in your OS/2 AUTOEXEC.BAT.

The are a couple of bugs I want to report.

1) I cannot "use" the push button menus at the bottom of the AmiPro screen
   in seamless mode. They will activate but will not stay open.

2) PageMaker 4.0 does not display the "About PageMaker" screen in seamless
   mode.

3) The introduction display screen in PM 4.0 display twice. It does it
   right the 1st time but the graphic overlaps the blue "PageMaker 4.0"
   banner the 2nd time.

4) Starting the apps the very first time after installation and migration
   produced some weird bugs. For AmiPro, it caused a rectangular area on
   the lower left of the screen to be unable to refresh i.e. it retained
   the bitmap of whatever was previously there. PageMaker would not shut
   down completely even though I had done it and the Windows List did not
   show that it was running. These problems went away after subsequent use.

5) Mouse and screen response in seamless Win apps is jerky.

GA is very usable and I am impressed by its multitasking abilities and
crash-proof capabilities. In spite of these buglets, it was worth the wait.
Can hardly wait for the 32-bit graphics engine and bug fixes which will make
2.0 so much faster and sweeter to run.


SC Lam - slam@eve.wright.edu
become a very viable platform for
From: Changhao_Boh@mindlink.bc.ca (Changhao Boh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra in 256 color mode?
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:01:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11464
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

HF> Msg-ID: <1575@vall.dsv.su.se>
HF> Posted: 15 Apr 92 21:39:07 GMT
HF>
HF> Org.  : Stockholm University, Sweden
HF>
HF> andy@huey.jpl.nasa.gov (Andy Poulsen) writes:
HF> : What is required to get an ATI Ultra into 256 color mode at 1024x768
HF> : I'm using the 8514 driver that comes standard, but it seems to only
HF> : in 16 color mode.  Any ideas?
HF>
HF> I don't think there IS such a 16 colour mode. You're probably running
HF> 256 colours aldready. Click "Edit" in the colour palette, then click
HF> "solid colour". Now it should be easy to determine if you have 16 or
HF> 256 solid colours.
HF> /Harald

The ATI Ultra and Vantage card work in 16 colour modes when equip with 512k of
VRAM/DRAM respectively.  If you have 1Mb RAM installed, the card will function
in the 256 colour mode regardless.

Good Health.

Changhao
From: ulf@dc.luth.se (Ulf Ruthberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Quick'n'fast Novell access
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:28:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Service Center, Lule University.

In article <prao.703360466@hcfmail> prao@ucsb.edu (Parik Rao) writes:
>From: prao@ucsb.edu (Parik Rao)
>Subject: Re: Quick'n'fast Novell access
 >Date: 15 Apr 92 17:54:26 GMT

 >Thanks to all who responded to my query.  The suggestion that I change
 >lastdrive to E: (from the default of Z:, apparently) did the trick.  The
 >Netware requester for OS/2 v2.0 started shipping yesterday I'm told, so 
 >we'll see if that does the trick to get seamless access.  If anyone has
 >the 2.0 requester, does it require installation on the server, or just
 >workstation changes?

 >BTW, I had to copy LOGIN.EXE from SYS:LOGIN to my local drive to get it
 >working.

 >--
 >parik rao                                                prao@bluemoon.
 ucsb.edu

Is the OS/2 requester 1.3 incompatible with OS/2 2.0?
Cant get it to work.

-ulf
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: How do you make a single boot disk to a command prompt?
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:56:41 GMT



Someone posted a recipie for making a single bootable os/2 disk.

It involved making a diskcopy of the install disk, deleting
some of the files on it and copying some of the files from disk 
1 to the copy of the install disk.

Could someone post the list of needed files?
--
From: gulcu@masg1.epfl.ch (Ceki Gulcu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 and Installation
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:51:24 GMT
Reply-To: lbdsun6.epfl.ch
Organization: EPFL, Physics Department

Hello,

A while back, I read an announcement from IBM saying that OS/2 2.0 could 
be installed via network. Did anybody try this?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price)
Subject: Re: PC Magazine coverage
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date:  8 Apr 92 19:41:04 GMT

cb@tamarack12.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:


>The new PC Magazine screams 

>         WINDOWS 3.1 

>in type that would be appropriate for the end of a world war.  Then, in
>type about 1/100 as big, it says "OS/2 2.0: great technology, but can it
>compete?".  The relation of these headlines is as brazen a bit of Microsoft
>promotion as I've seen so far: a minor release of an inferior kludge is
>treated like the beginning of a new era, but a major release of the real
>thing is mentioned only patronizingly.  The title of the OS/2 article
>inside is something like "Can OS/2 live up to its billing?"

>Why is OS/2 treated with snide rhetorical questions, while Windows is given
>the benefit of the doubt on every issue?  PC Mag's answer would be "because
>Windows has sold well and OS/2 hasn't", which means that the future is
>doomed to only continue the past: no fundamental change can occur.  This
>seems a poor assumption in high technology.  

>The OS/2 article itself isn't too bad, if it weren't dwarfed in size and
>presentation by the Windows article.  All in all a discouraging result for
>an important edition of the magazine.

>Chris Brewster
>cb@cray.com
>GEnie: C.BREWSTER7

Agreed. Send constructive email to :

Joel Dreyfuss, a PC Mag editor at 72241,264@compuserve.com

chad
price@helios.unl.edu