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From: lamy@dmr.ca
Subject: Rencontre technique UniForum Montreal, janvier 1993
Originator: lamy@bond.crim.ca
Organization: DMR Group, R&D
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:56:38 GMT


			   UniForum Montreal
		  Rencontres techniques - Hiver 1993

UniForum Montreal, le groupe d'utilisateurs d'Unix et des systemes 
ouverts de Montreal, vous invite cordialement a assister a ses 
rencontres techniques mensuelles.  Le programme pour les quatre 
premieres rencontres de 1993 est le suivant:

le mercredi 6 janvier, 19h00

	Theme:  	Sendmail, la megere apprivoisee
	Conferencier:	Andre Ozrout, Digital

	La configuration du mecanisme de transport de courrier electronique
	sendmail est parfois consideree comme l'un des rites de passage de
	l'administration de systemes Unix.  Cette presentation en survolera
	les principes et revelera certains des trucs du metier.

le mercredi 3 fevrier, 19h00

	Theme:  	Les outils d'analyse lex et yacc
	Conferencier:	Jean-Marc Pigeon, CRIM

	Les outils lex et yacc permettent de faciliter les taches d'analyse 
	syntaxique autrement plus courantes que l'ecriture de compilateurs.  
	La presentation cherchera a illustrer cet aspect plus pratique de lex 
	et yacc.

le mercredi 3 mars, 19h00

	Theme:  	Outils de depistage d'information sur l'Internet
	Conferencier:	Robert Gerin-Lajoie, IRO, Universite de Montreal

	Y'a-t-il un pilote dans l'avion?  Comment naviguer dans l'Internet
	avec l'aide des nouveaux co-pilotes: les systemes Gopher, World-Wide
	Web (WWW) et Wide Area Information System (WAIS).

le mercredi 7 avril, 19h00

	Theme: 		Developpement et gestion de l'information 
			sous Lucid Emacs
	Conferencier:	Marc Paquette, CRIM

	La version Lucid de Emacs (derivee de GNU Emacs) supporte les
	evenements souris, les menus, les polices de caracteres multiples,
	plusieurs ecrans, etc, ce qui lui donne des possibilites interessantes
	comme outil de developpement.  En deuxieme partie, on decrira le
	systeme Hyperbole, un hypertexte programmable base sur Emacs
	susceptible d'etre utile a plusieurs taches de gestion d'information
	personnelle et de support a la programmation.

Ces rencontres sont gratuites et ouvertes a tous les interesses.  Elles 
ont lieu le premier mercredi de chaque mois a 19h00 au

	College Lasalle Industries               
	2000 ouest, rue Ste-Catherine (metro Atwater)
	Bureau 1300 (sous-sol)
	Montreal, Qc

Pour plus d'informations sur UniForum, contactez les services aux 
membres (UniForum Montreal, 336-8564).  Pour recevoir les avis de 
rencontre par courrier electronique, envoyez un message electronique a 
l'une des adresses ci-dessous.

Jean-Francois Lamy      Internet: lamy@dmr.ca     	   tel:    877-3301 
Groupe DMR		UUCP:  	  clouso!dmr.ca!lamy       fax:    866-0423
Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.politics
From: marky@engin.umich.edu (Mark Anthony Young)
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 22:39:50 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson) writes:
>Could someone possibly state what paragraph 23(1)(a) of the Canadian
>Charter of Rights and Freedoms says?

23.(1) Citizens of Canada
  (a) whose first language learned and understood is that of the
  the English or French linguistic minority population of the
  province in which they reside, or
  (b) who have received their primary school instruction in
  Canada in English or French and reside in a province where the
  language in which they received that instruction is the
  language of the English or French linguistic minority
  population of the province,
have the right to have their children receive primary and secondary
school instruction in that language in that province.

...

59.(1) Paragraph 23(1)(a) shall come into force in respect of
Quebec on a day to be fixed by proclamation issued by the Queen
or the Governor General under the Great Seal of Canada.

(2) A proclamation under subsection (1) shall be issued only
where authorized by the legislative assembly or government
of Quebec.

...mark young
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: wolf@cs.mcgill.ca (Paul MCNABOLA)
Subject: Software Discount Store in Mtl
Followup-To: mtl.general
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:14:24 GMT


Does anyone out there know of a store that sells software at a discount?
It can be anywhere on the island or even off it.  Im a poor student and
would like some new programmes for my Mac.
Thanx in advance.
----------
Paul McNabola         wolf@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

"Always available, never free" ---Buck Godot
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:58:41 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 619

From article <1993Jan11.104203.24940@spxtech.qc.ca>, by steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter):
> From article <726677019.AA04883@illusion.tpg.org>, by Yvon.Decelles@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Yvon Decelles):
>> Hello Steve,
>> 
> 
> Hello Yvonne.
            ^^
                 Sorry Yvon, Freudian slip?  :-))
-- 
  ///==================================================================\\\
  ||| Steve Potter:         steven@spxtech.qc.ca                       |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
From: Yvon.Decelles@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Yvon Decelles)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Help with duties...
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:48:00 GMT

Hello Cholette,


Your previous message about Help with duties... said


 CM> anyone out there know what I will be charged by Cust. Can. when I
 CM> receive my system ??? 

 Last time I received hardware from the U.S. I paid the GST and that's
 it. Usualy your receive the product and 3-4 weeks after you receive the
 bill from Customs.

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... Webster; EVOLUTION: Believing that we all are big furry monkeys
Newsgroups: mtl.general,mcgill.general
From: depeche@cs.mcgill.ca (Acme Instant Dehydrated Boulder Kit)
Subject: misc items for sale
Organization: MADD - Dyslexics against Mad Mothers
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:55:31 GMT


I have the following items for sale:

 Radio Shack DUOFONE TAD-25 answering machine, uses 1 leaderless standard
cassette and 1 fixed-length tape-loop for the OGM. No remote message
retrieving facilities. Approx 10 years old (maybe more), but it's built to
last, with minimal possible moving parts. $25 

 Record-A-Call 840 - combination phone and answering machine. Uses one
standard MINI-casette for both ICM and OGMs. Remote messaging facilities,
but no manual. 5 years old. asking $60.

 Bemis Vapor-All Ultra-Sonic Humidifier Model 5000. 1.32 gallon (5 Litres)
tank. 5 years old. $50

 Sears LXI series belt-drive turntable (for playing those black circular
things made of vinyl which store sound and music on them). Model #
564.9790250. 6 years old. $45.

All of the above devices come with a 10-day money back guarantee.
Please send e-mail or call me at 848-0493.


-- 
| Alan Ezust    depeche@cs.mcgill.ca   McGill University Computer Science    |
|------------------------Montreal, Quebec, Canada (?)------------------------|
|  I'm not much of a night person. I'm *definitely* not a morning person.    |
|  I'm not really an afternoon person either. Does this mean I'm a nobody?   |
From: Yvon.Decelles@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Yvon Decelles)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:36:00 GMT

Hello Allison,


Your previous message about Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties said


 AM> See there schools now are no longer English establishments
 AM> and when they try to get any proof that they were taught in the
 AM> English school system they are told they have no records leaving them
 AM> with no proof. In these cases this is not fair.

  When you go to the school that shoudn't pose a problem. In the case of
  my wife for example, they accepted Antony no problem and since we
  could not locate the necessary paper (it WAS more then 25 years ago
  <g>) they then made us sign a few papers and they THEMSELVES requested
  the necessary information from the QC autorities.

  Perhaps your friends are not or were not aware that they could have
  the school ask for the document themselves. Saves a lot of headache.

 AM> You were lucky your wife had no problems with your children but the
 AM> problems do exist.

  I think that the problem exist mostly for immigrant and for people who
  do not know how the system works. I'm not saying it's their fault just
  that it's not as bad as it looks.

 AM> Also alot of people don't have their letter
 AM> of elegibility,their parents had them but they either got lost thrown
 AM> away or misplaced.  The government doesn't issue you new ones just
 AM> like that it takes a while and alot of aggravating

  Yes that much is true, DON'T loose that paper otherwise it's quite a
  pain to get another one.


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... "Transporter chief Mcgill, beam the landing party to the bridge"
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: herve@cs.mcgill.ca (Herve AVRIL)
Subject: Re: Looking??? et autre.... 
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Distribution: qc
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:41:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.001451.9257@IRO.UMontreal.CA> quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Pokey Bangs) writes:

>In article <1993Jan11.013910.20550@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> jayceem@pike.ee.mcgill.ca (Jean-Charles Maillet) writes:
>>
>
>bon bon relax pis prend une 222... relis ce que j'ai ecrit pis
>tu verras peut etre mieux,...

C'est quoi la 222 ?  Encore une nouvelle loi ?

>>    Tu te contredis quand tu suggere que la loi 101 c'est equivalent
>>a se "supporter nous meme".
>
>c'est pas du tout ca que j'ai ecrit! personnelement la loi 101 je
> m'en passerai (la partie affichage du moins). Si tu lit correctement
> ce que j'ai ecrit tu verreerat que j'ai dit que si tu veut que ta
> culture reste (comme tout ceux
>qui supporte la loi 101, tu le fait toi meme pas de besoin de loi...
>c'est quand meme ridicule pour une majorite d'avoir une loi qui
> protege une culture "majoritaire"

Eh ben voila !  On est tous d'accord alors !  La loi 101 est inutile, la
culture, c'est comme l'ADN, ca se transmet et ca evolue, et la liberte
n'a ni langue, ni couleur, ni religion.

Have a very nice day !
Herve.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Si les gens qui pensent du mal de moi, savaient ce que je pense d'eux,
           ils en penseraient bien davantage !" - Sacha Guitry
From: demetrio@cs.concordia.ca (DAVLOUROS demetrios)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Monitor to give away
Date: 11 Jan 93 04:25:10 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec


 have a cordata 12 inch display monitor for a pc. I am giving it away
because I am not using it any more. If anyone is interested please e-mail
back to me. You can give anything you want or simply get me a couple of beers.

Please e-mail if interested.

-- 
| demetrio@cs.concordia.ca          d_davlo@pavo.concordia.ca |
|james@hpb.hwc.ca                    jdavlouros@hpb.hwc.ca    |

| Women , you can't live with'em, pass the beernuts._ N.P.     |
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: william@cithara.login.qc.ca (William Ross)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Help with duties...
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 14:58:46 EST
Organization: Organ Grinders Monkeys Union With Penguins As Mascots

cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin) writes:

> 
> 
> Hello netters, I am thinking of buying a Gateway 2000 computer via mail order
> however, after two days of persistent phoning to Canada Customs to inquire ab
> what fee's, duties & taxes are charged on incoming computer systems, I have n
> been able to reach them. Does anyone out there know what I will be charged by
> Cust. Can. when I receive my system ???

There are many grey areas regarding the importation of computers:

If they are made in the U.S.A they are duty free, but when last I
checked that meant the motherboards must be made in the U.S.A. SO it
seems that systems *assembled* in the states -- motherboards married to
power supplies and cases, etc. don't qualify.
> 
> Please help, they definately won't answer the phone!

The fact that they aren't answering the phone is a clear indication
that they don't want your business.
...or they're busy doing inventory; typical January activity.

But why not patronize a local dealer? It's not likely that you'll
save any real money buying mail order. I'm willing to bet that in most
cases mail order computers are more trouble that they're worth.

You'd be doing the local merchants a favor making your purchase here.

My humble .000002cents

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
William Ross
cithara                 Specalists in asbestos underwear
                        since 1992                william@cithara.login.qc.ca
From: Mark.Kraml@f250.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Mark Kraml)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Looking??? et autre....
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:26:08 GMT

Hello Pokey!

Sunday January 10 1993, Pokey Bangs writes to All:

 PB> From: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Pokey Bangs)
 PB> Newsgroups: mtl.general
 PB> Subject: Looking??? et autre....
 PB> Organization: Universite de Montreal
 PB> Reply-To: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Pokey Bangs)
 PB> @Message-ID: <1993Jan10.170947.18765@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
 PB> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:09:47 GMT

 PB> In article <C0n6yq.4EJ@CAM.ORG> robert@CAM.ORG (Robert Masse) writes:

 >>> University of Montreal
 >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  Est-ce que l'universite a change de nom??? Je
 >>> pensais que le nom officiel etait Universite de Montreal.... En passant,
 >>> ne penses-tu pas qu'il y a aussi des francophones qui auraient des
 >>> Nintendo a vendre aussi? Une petite traduction ferait du bien!
 >>
 >> ^^^^^^^^^^
 >>
 >> What the hell is this?? A Parizeau fanatic trying to change all of
 >> Quebec into French.  Get a life instead of commenting that people
 >> could post in french also.
 >>
 >> rob
 >>

 PB> Bien justement pas, et bien au contraire. Que des anglophones
 PB> n'affichent qu'en anglais ca va; ca serait preferable de le
 PB> faire par politesse mais ca passe. Mais que des francophones
 PB> n'affichent qu'en anglais, meme pas de traduction ni rien,
 PB> ca depasse les bornes, surtout que 75% des francophones qui
 PB> affichent ne le font qu'en anglais. Et ces probablement ces
 PB> gens qui crient a la fin du francais au Quebec... Si l'on
 PB> veut garder notre culture, il ne faut pas obliger les
 PB> autre de la supporter, il faut le faire nous meme, comme
 PB> ca on n'aurait pas de besoin de la loi 101 pour le faire....
 PB> Et, monsieur Masse, la prochaine fois prenez une valium
 PB> avant d'afficher, on ne lance pas des insultes a la legere.


well i dont see much mail in languages other than english in any posts. maybe
she just want to be polite and allow the millions of other users of internet
to be able to read her mail. she just does like the institut louis pasteur in
france, they also publish all the research in english.

Mark
From: asif@ariane.uucp (Asif Zaidi)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: CRIM courses
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:06:39 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Concordia University, VLSI LAB

Hi:

Does anyone know where I can get information on courses offered by CRIM. Specifically I want programming for X


Thanks


Asif
From: Marc.Savard@p300.f0.n1726.z0.illusion.tpg.org (Marc Savard)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:39:30 GMT

Hello Steve!

** On a computer far far away, Steve Potter wrote to All:

 SP> NON! Nous n'avons pas tous le meme access a l'education!  :-(((((

Explique-toi.


 SP>                 ****************************************************
 SP>                 *                                                  *
 SP>                 *               BIENVENUE AU QUEBEC                *
 SP>                 *                                                  *
 SP>                 *                       ou                         *
 SP>                 *                                                  *
 SP>                 * "nous avons suspendu les libertes fondamentales" *
 SP>                 *                                                  *
 SP>                 *                       {Premier Robert Bourassa}  *
 SP>                 *                                 {14 Mars, 1989}  *
 SP>                 *                                                  *
 SP>                 ****************************************************

Bravo pour tes efforts de rapprochements.. Tu fais reelement beaucoup
d'efforts afin de changer l'etiquette de bornes, stupides et "close-monded"
apposee aux anglophone

 SP>   ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale / 
|||
 SP>   |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec           
|||

Lord help us.

   Marc

... Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay.
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:48:28 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 2147

From article <726677019.AA04884@illusion.tpg.org>, by Yvon.Decelles@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Yvon Decelles):
> 
>  SP> There shouldn't be any need to go through this crap to get access to
>  SP> the schooling of ones choice in the first place!
>  
>  I can see the logic of making immigrant go to french school when
>  coming to live in QC, however, I think that if they previously had
>  english education then then should be allowed same as the anglo
>  resident in QC to send their kids to english school.
> 

Well, you have come part way - and I do appreciate that.

>  SP> Who are you to judge?
> 
>  A francophone parent sending his child to an anglophone school.
> 

You had a choice.

>  SP> Are you suggesting that problems for immigrants (and citizens who
>  SP> landed after 1977!!) are nothing to be concerned about? Perhaps because
>  SP> they are not "pure-wool" Quebecers? :-((((
> 
>  Not at all, What I am suggesting is that when immigant come here and
>  have no former education in english or in french it's prefectly
>  legitimate to force them to go to french school. I don't see any major
>  harm in that. If they don't like-it then they can always move to ONT or
>  other province who don't even provide french speaking people with basic
>  teaching in french.
> 

I won't take issue with you now.

You have come part way and that is what groups like ALLIANCE QUEBEC are 
trying to achieve at the moment. I will leave the issue of Freedom of
choice until late spring. (Watch this space! :-) )

bye for now.


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  ||| Steve Potter:         steven@spxtech.qc.ca                       |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
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  ||| Steve Potter:         steven@spxtech.qc.ca                       |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:39:24 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 15630

From article <725595649.AA02229@illusion.tpg.org>, by Mark.Kraml@f250.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Mark Kraml):
> 
> .....
> nous avons tous le meme access a l'education......

NON! Nous n'avons pas tous le meme access a l'education!  :-(((((

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  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
X-Bytes: 3481
Subject: Re: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
Newsgroups: mtl.followup
From: Yvon.Decelles@f420.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Yvon Decelles)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:52:01 GMT

Hello Steve,


Your previous message about Welcome to Quebec/repressed liberties said


 SP> Was your wife a resident in Quebec before 26th August, 1977?

 Yes altough she wasn't in school anymore at that time.

 SP> Was your wife educated in english in Canada?

 New-Brunswick and Qc

 SP> One must also prove that one of the parents was educated in english IN
 SP> CANADA or else was educated in english elsewhere (for most of the
 SP> first 7 grades - excluding kindergarten)
 
 One of the parent had to have received ONE year of primary level
 schooling in Canada somewhere. That's the extent of what they ask us to
 show. If anybody qualifies following this rule their children can go to
 english school.


 SP> People who landed here after 26th August, 1977 (whether they have 
 SP> bothered to obtain their Canadian citizenship or not) can NOT send
 SP> their children to English schools in Quebec even if they were educated
 SP> in English for their entire lives!

  Can't really say anything about that since it didn't apply to our
  situation. Altough up to a point I understand that immigrant who never
  took english anywhere could be forced to take french. Immigrant who
  previously had english education should be treated as englophone here
  IMO.


 SP> I think that you have probably not understood the restrictions as they
 SP> applied outside of your own families experience. A simple read of the
 SP> appropriate legislation should help to straighten things out for you.
 SP> I would happy to send you some information on the subject if you would
 SP> really like to be accurately informed before speaking on the subject
 SP> again.

 Sure, E-mail at this address with the proper info or send via snail
 mail at;

 Yvon Decelles
 435 ROy #104
 Dorval, Qc
 H9S-3E2


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... Cyberpunk? Is that a music category?
Newsgroups: mtl.general
From: tasse@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tasse Josee)
Subject: Maison a partager
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: mtl
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:39:01 GMT

Fille recherchee pour partager une maison toute equipee situe tout pres
a pieds du metro FABRE $250 par mois immediatement
376-9782 ou 343-6111 extension 1961