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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:45:10 EST
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      The Return of Jim Dandy...ugh

Just when I thought it was safe to start 1993, came the diturbing news
that the one and only(thank god) Jim Dandy and Black Oak Arkansas are
being resurrected and are visiting Ithaca in a couple weeks. Gack !

I saw these guys warm up for Wishbone Ash in NYC's Central Park in about
1973-74. Mr. Dandy did his best to try to shake his balls out of his
leather pants, and otherwise murdered the music. Wishbone Ash wasn't
bad, and if I remember correctly, Leon Redbone opened before Black Oak.
Strange bill, huh? Let's see now - there was a buxom blonde who kept
yelling "Go Jim Dandy, Go Jim Dandy !", but that was awhile ago, eh?
Maybe her daughter is filling in for her now, and well - I wouldn't know
what Mr. Dandy was being filled with...

No OMC: Met a nice couple from Holland 2 days ago. I tried to explain the
rules of American Football to the guy, and his girlfriend beat me at
pool. We never got around to music, unfortunately, but they were going
to drive to Niagara Falls the next day, and the thought of anyone wanting to do
 that in the winter baffled me.
                                           ...later, Walt...
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: tous les matins du monde
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:23:31 GMT

Ok, the holiday film treat for me was Tous Les Matins Du Monde,
which is a film on Pascal Quignard's story on the encounters of Marin 
Marais with Sainte Colombe.  In actual history, Sainte Colombe is
a 17th century composer and viole de gambe virtuoso, who added the 
7th string to the instrument.  Not much else is known about him.  
Marin Marias is better known, playing in Lully's orchestra in 
Da Court, and a leading composer in the French baroque. At one 
time he studied with Sainte Colbombe, and that is what Quignard's 
book and this film are about.

The film depicts Sainte Colombe as an eccentric and reclusive character,
who lives in sorrow and dreams of his dead wife, which becomes the
source of his musical inspiration.  Gerard Daprdieu and his son Guillaume
play Marin Marias (at different ages), depicted as a golden boy of sorts,
who none the less realizes that Michael Jackson stardom doesn't
equate the real meaning of music.  Sainte Colombe doesn't want to have
much to do with Marais, but Marais has better luck with one of Sainte
Colombe's daughters.  I am not going to give away anything more 
concerning the plot and gratuitous sex scenes of this film.

Back to the music: not only are there stunning viole performances 
of the music of Sainte Columbe and Marais by Jordi Savall, but 
there are other pieces by Lully and Couperin.  The Lully piece 
is the wild "Marche pour la Ceremonie des Tures".  I dig this piece 
a lot, especially with the drums.  This isn't the spit-shined baroque
of Bach or Couperin, it smells like it hasn't taken a shower in six
months. (ok, it's a minor key, but they do the Picardy third bit
in ending on a major key.  I can't help but think there was a guy
wearing a plaid sports jacket telling them that they must end 
on a major chord in order for it to sell)  
While most of the music is clearly baroque, some of the stuff 
hints a renaissance flavor.

A friend told me that the New York Times said one of the reasons this film
was made was that "early music" on "period instruments" is very popular
in France right now.  Ah, a pure marketing move, an exploitation film
all along....  no wonder it won so many awards.

Jeff
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From:         "Out,
              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Idolise or what? (WAS: Fave Xmas tunes)

>From: Dave <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>
>Subject: Fave Xmas tunes
>Sender: Discussions on all forms of Music <ALLMUSIC@AUVM.BITNET>
>
>The heart of this debate (as paraphrased by me) is:  Why
>is it that some symbols and images are sacred and others not and who
>determines whose are sacred?

        The question is interesting -- not necessarily per se, but mainly
because often art in general (and rock music in particular) are pointed at
for having a sort of negative attitude towards most "sacred" things and
symbols.
        Of course, some manifestations of art are deliberately set-up against
any kind of sacredness, may it be of values, moral statements, religion, etc.
But, in general, exactly these same manifestations seem to feed on an often
small but always rabid fanbase, and some people in this militia definitely
have a "sacred" attitude towards them.
        Should we call it an "anti-sacred" attitude? I don't know, honest.
But since many people seem to necessarily need someone to idolise, and since
nothing (or no-one) that is easily reachable can be idolised (it's worth to
remember that "idolise" comes from Greek and literally means "to represent
with an image"), the interest often moves from Jesus Christ to a mean Michael
Jackson squeezing his own marbles in public. But it's the people who choose,
in the end. Or, better stated, people *believe to choose*, and are instead
biased by a strong "image campaign" in their choices. Also, notice how many
people or things idolised *outside* the religious world appear to require less
moral commitment than religion itself. In this sense, idolisation is only the
easy way out of a profound human need which someone (a bad incarnation of
Yes) defined as "Machine Messiah -- the mindless search for a higher control-
ler". Well, more or less.
        I personally see no difference, in substance, between someone who
goes around believing he's Jesus Christ (because he wants to follow an ideal
of living) and someone who hits the dancefloor mimicking Madonna and dressing
up like her because the aim is to *look* like her. This is understandable when
one is growing up and needs to have references to check him/herself against.
I am far less inclined to understand when this happens in the middle of adult-
hood :). And, just to state things clearly, when I say "I see no difference"
I am only talking about the psychological pattern which, IMHO, lies behind the
whole thing.
        And, also, this is why I love free-thinkers...

        Ciao, Marco

P.S.: greetings to all of you! May you have a happy and nice Christmas... as
      I step off my soapbox for today, ahem...
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:26:39 KST
From:         DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      ADVENT

mwD %79# 1$Enk
From:         woj <REWOICC%ERENJ.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu>
Subject:      Re: BACK IN TH' SADDLE (AGAIN)
To:           DMetcalf%IC-LOG@walker-ltt.army.mil

]you mind reposting that gajoob address? i've just finally got around to
]resubscribing to allmusic and i must have missed it the first time around.

Woj, good ta' see ye' back on th' net again!

The Gajoob rate is $13 for four issues; Bryan's tryin' to stick to a
quarterly schedule (hard for him to do sometimes) & his 'zine is worth
EVERY penny!  SUPER informative for those into TAPE as a medium; in
point of fact, he's opened it up to other formats as well now!  His address
is GAJOOB, PO BX 3201, SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH, 84110, USA.  As I believe I
mentioned, he also runs a radio show; more info is available on that by
calling 801-355-8946 (AFTER midnight EST)!

]also, what's i.n.? is that a zine you put together? any info on it is
]appreciated...

Yeah, I.N. is my 'zine!  More info on it in my catalog; separate (repost)
to ALLMUSIC, should be right after this one!

ROTCOD ZZAJ
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:14:00 N
From:         "Out,
              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Crimson's middle album (widened)

        First of all, thanks to all those who explained the meaning of "Matte
Kudasai" and "Thela Hin Ginjeet"!
        Then Mike (Masuda) asks:

>btw, what is your opinion on the middle albums by Crimson?

        The answer is not easy, I think, since King Crimson hasn't been simply
"a band"... it's been Robert Fripp + several other talented guys, which is
quite different.
        If I had to choose one single album from their production, I'd still
go for "In The Court Of The Crimson King". It's amazing for two reasons: first,
when one compares it to "The Cheerful Insanity Of Giles, Giles and Fripp",
which was the earlier attempt of the man; second, when one tries to remember
that the record came out in *1969*, when most of the progressive bands were
still asking themselves which way to go. In the next few years there were so
many musicians who tried to get KC's sound that the album became a milestone
in itself.
        Anyway, a second choice should really include "Lizards", though I think
that the best incarnation of Crimson was that of 1973-74, with Wetton, Bruford
and Cross. The live gigs contained in the box "The Great Deceiver" are outstan-
ding to say the least (though I've already had the chance to say I consider
the box in itself a little too selfish and exaggerated).
        The last version of KC, i.e. Fripp-Belew-Levin-Bruford, was an extre-
mely and interesting powerful one. As always, the albums one loves more are
exactly those which another hates guts -- and so my choice (had I to pick just
one, again) would be [anti-Bloom suit on] "Beat" [anti-Bloom suit off, care-
fully... :)]. In second position, "Discipline". This is because if on one side
I've always disliked pure "pop" music, on the other side I like the delicate
wedding between it and a more serious and complicated philosophy -- as that of
Crimson. In this sense, "Neal And Jack And Me" is probably one of my most fa-
vourite songs ever: it's "difficult" enough to satisfy my perverse ears,
but "pop" enough to amuse me. Not easy to find it (and the same goes for other
faves of mine, like "Once In A Lifetime" by Talking Heads, or "Patient" by Ham-
mill, or... well, I guess the picture is clear).

        The final remark is that probably KC haven't been understood if not
on the surface for years. Personally, I don't see any contradiction in the
evolution of the band between 1974 and 1981. Seven years were many even for
Fripp, but there is a logical thread between their latest works of the 70s
and the 80s version.
        Neither, of course, I claim that *I* have understood much... :)

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:14:00 GMT
From:         TSEADA@VRIT01.EG
Subject:      Re: Worst Song Ever

Have anyone ever heared any good song from Madonna ?
I think the worst song ever is anything sang by her !!
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 15:44:28 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: 1992 Allmusic Awards Nominations

Well, I've just returned from a vacation - so I'm bright-eyed and
bushy-tailed. Although I've only been on here for a while, I'll give this a
shot...I'll only respond to that which I feel capabale, or have something
relevant for...


>2. Wittiest poster.  (Rolling on the Floor Laughing Prize)

Rick. Easy. Those of you here in October will remember my marriage
proprosal to the already-betrothed Rickster for just this very reason....

>3. Most consistent initiator & promoter of dialogue. (Threadmaker Award)
>
Mike Masuda. The childhood music posts - mine will join later today - were
some of the best I've read, and they are only a small sample of his
creations...

>5. Nastiest poster (Painful Plague Prize)
>
That SNYPLAVA schmuck - Ben, I think his name was....Even Len isn't that
bad...

>6. Friendliest and kindest Allmusicker.
>
Although many of you fall under this general heading, I'll put my vote in
for Renato Barahona. Not only has the man helped me out with music stuff,
but law school stuff as well! He is unfailingly polite and genuinely
pleasant....lord, I sound like his campaign manager!

>7. Clueless poster award. (Frippie Prize)
>
>Any and all peole who "unsubscribe" to the whole damn list!!!!!

>10. Sexiest poster.  (Libby Doe Prize)

Libby Doe!

>12. Best Allmusic flamer.
>
Bloomdido. Even when he flames you, you feel honored.

>15. Classiest Allmusicker.
>
Gary. He's willing to do this compilation thing!!!

>16. Most dazzling all-around poster.
>
Bloomdido again. Although it's not really fair. He does post all at once,
so the wisdom is more concentrated...

>17. Keeper of the Allmusic flame award.  (To the person who epitomizes
>the spirit & ideals -- whatever they might be -- of the list.  This is the
>highest honor that can be accorded an Allmusicker.)
>

Wow, that's hard. But I'll have to nominate Sonia Kovitz. She is pleasant,
funny and knowledgable. Her review of "Ionisation" kept me laughing for a
long time. Her Blues Roots tapes show amazing taste, and her interest in
other forms of music is incredible. Finally, and most importantly, her
persistance at the guitar is the mark of a real musician. I believe the
encouragement she received from many on the list is quite indicative of how
well-thought-of she is. We love you Sonia, oh yes we dooooooo.....


That's my nominations! Welcome back everyone.....


Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:43:38 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: classical
              18 Dec 1992 20:38:04 GMT from <cck1@NS1.CC.LEHIGH. EDU>

On Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:38:04 GMT CHRISTIAN CHARLES KAZANECKI said:
>    I'm looking for classical music played entirely on acoustic guitar. I know
>    its out there somewhere, and I've seen transcriptions for various songs in
>    guitar magazines. If anyone knows the name of such an album so I could
>    order it, it would greatly be appreciated. Thanx and Merry Christmas-
>--
>
>                                                 -- Metal.
This post confuses me considerably.  There is a rather large classical
literature for guitar.  Certainly more than just one album worth (-:  I'd
suggest my usual expedient of going to Tower & looking in the guitar section
of their classical shop.  You could also look under Sor, Granados, Villa-Lobos,
Boccherini, and, for the early Lute stuff, Dowland.
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:33:53 EST
From:         Adam Levin <Adam.Levin@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Hoppy Gnu Beer

...or somethin like that...

For the new year I resolve to be more tolerant of newbies and their musical
tastes.





















Nah! Prince stills sucks farts from dead wet pigeons. 8)

-Adam
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:09:24 EST
From:         Mick Jeffries <MICK.JEFFRIES@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      re: Danzig

Danzig are the sinister metal godband fronted by former punk legend Glen
 Danzig of the Misfits.  They are dark, menacing, morbid, provocative and
 Glen has listened to more than a few Doors recs, by the sound of his voice.

I don't really dig Danzig, but from people I know and rec. sales, they are
 quite huge, popularity-wise.  No-fluff metal.  Also, H.R. Giger of Alien
 fame, did the cover of the Danzig III album.

                                  Mick
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:32:42 EST
From:         Sanity Clause <alevin@TOPCAT.BSC.MASS.EDU>
Subject:      Merry Sumpthin-a-rather

Here's to wishing y'all a happy holiday season.

May there be an absence of Kenny G and Madonna records in your gift boxes.

I'm sure this has been done before, but here are my:

**12 Days of AllMusic**

On the 12th day of AllMusic my mailer gave to me...

12 Drummers drumming
11 Libbys licking
10 Beers blowing
9 Prestons picking
8 Whining Watkins
7 Tulling Tims
6 Blooms beating bonangs
5 Wierd Warts
4 Rotcods rocking
3 Psychedelic Sonias
2 Historian Hammers
and a bunch of other people that I couldn't think of good lines for because
it's late and I've been dipping into the Christmas spirits. 8)

-Sanity Clause
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:24:22 EST
From:         Moe Methot <AP201027@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Faculty Position Announcement

Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:47:09 EST
From:         Moe Methot <AP201027@BROWNVM>
Subject:      Faculty Position Announcement
To:           music-research@prg.oxford.ac.uk
========================================================================
The Department of Music at Brown University announces a tenure-track position a
t the level of assistant professor.  The term of appointment begins in July 199
3.  We seek a composer or theorist with expertise in computer music.  Qualified
 candidates should hold the PhD and be prepared to teach a broad range of cours
es for both majors and non-majors in our theory-composition program, including
courses in computer music applications.  Preferences will be given to candidate
s who will contribute to our graduate programs as well.  The deadline for submi
ssion of applications and all supporting materials is February 1, 1993.  Applic
ants should send a letter describing their experience and interests together wi
th a curriculum vitae, graduate school transcripts, three letters of recommenda
tion, and up to three examples of compositions and/or scholarly research.  Each
 recorded example should be submitted on a seperate cassette tape.  Although al
l possible care will be taken in handling submitted materials, we cannot be res
ponsible for loss or damage to these items.  Send applications to:  Gerald M.
Shapiro, Search Committee Chair, Department of Music-Brown University, One Youn
g Orchard Avenue, Providence, RI 02912-1924
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:21:02 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: My lonely quest for the ALLMUSIC compilation tape
              23 Dec 1992 09:53:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

On Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:53:00 EST <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL> said:
>*But*, I seem to be alone with my crusade here, so I'll shutup (unless
>someone wants to argue some more).

Hey, you know me I'll argue, anytime, any subject........:-) L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:11:00 GMT
From:         TSEADA@VRIT01.EG
Subject:      Re: Epistemelogy 'R Us

> The metal list is not much different than the ALLMUSIC list.

Can anyone send me the adress of the

*metal list* ?

                                                                Tarek Seada
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Subject: someone tell me about Gerard McMann
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I just picked up a used copy of The Lost Boys soundtrack for the songs
Cry Little Sister and To The Shock Of Miss Louise.  The former is
done by a guy named Garard McMann, produced by Michael Mainieri, Gerard,
and Bruce Martin.  So who are these guys?  What else have they done?
And have any of their other works sounded much like Cry Little Sister?

Mike "please don't make fun of my taste in music"
                                                            Mike Brown
_  _ _____________________________________I think, therefore I ambient
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:22:50 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: piss metal

>I don't really care what an artist does, i object to gov't funding for stuff
>that is not art....pure and simple Mapplethorpe's work is not art a bottle of
>piss is not art......it's not art...........L.W.

Squeezing one note on a guitar over and over is not art, no matter how
painfully blue a face you might be able to put on.  Thankfully, there's
no government funding going to support *that* sort of trash.

Russ (the cynicism should be clear)
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:13:00 MST
From:         Thumper <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      nympho daughter of the son of the cd splurgefest

Hey ho all!

It's damn cold here (-35) and I'm at home hibernating and cuddling like a good
canookie should...   :)

Yesterday, I braved the frigid temps and splurged on CD's and here is what I
dragged home with me:

Chris Rea, _God's Great Banana Skin_
Peter Gabriel, _Security_
The Mighty Lemon Drops, _laughter_
Sugar, _Copper Blue_
Ofra Haza, _Kirya_

And... they're all wicked!  I decided that I want to be Ofra Haza when I grow
up and I want to have a wild lusty love affair with Peter Gabriel. And
speaking of PG, have any of you seen his video for "Steam"?  Wow... it's way
swell... great effects despite the fact that he has one token bimbo moment (in
the rocking sauna with a handful of babes).  :)  And the sound quality on the
_Security_ gives me goose nipples... lovely.  :)

Henry Cow and Fred Frith will have to wait their turn on my new CD... remember,
Bloomie, I live in Bumfuck, Alberta...  :(  I'll have to wait until my next
adventure in the Big Easy to dig up some more interesting stuff...

Christmas was swell for me... I got my goose and my CD.  And I've decided not
to divorce the hockeyplayer despite the fact that his family teased me
mercilessly about taking up the bodhran...  :)  And my dad (who drywalls to
classical music) really liked the Prokofiev collection I gave him...

And... has classical music suddenly become hip?  Or am I just imagining the
glut of classical music in my local store??

Good luck on the second compilation, Gary.  The first one went quite smooth,
though there were a few stragglers that got their tapes in WAY late (right
Tim).  ;)  We used similar methods, though we had everyone submit their songs
on cassette and we used that cassette to tape the compilation back onto... And
despite the means, the quality of the final product wasn't too bad. We
also used 100 minute cassettes.  And I put together a little booklet with
pictures and comments from those who contributed.  We had 25 people sign up and
three dropped out...

And a big fat welcome back smooch to wojie, baby... nice to see you back!
Boy... it'll be nice doubling the Denio woody level around here, eh?   ;)

I've got a ton of listening to do.  I got tapes from Bloomie (more Tone Dogs
and Mr. Woodbury), da Beer (Jazz to have kinky sex to), Tim (Tull music for the
sexless), and Renato (pipes and scottish dance tunes).  And then, I've got to
squeeze in some more bodhran practice in there somewhere!  Thumpa thumpa!  Gee,
I'm busy enough that I don't want to go back to work next week...  :(

And tomorrow I'm going to get laid for the last time this year...   :*)

Schlong,
Libby Doe
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