From: ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas Omar Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,sci.econ
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:11:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keoyoqW00VoqALcnJA
	<1992Oct7.225248.28253@news.ysu.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.sci.econ: 7-Oct-92 Re: Nobel Prize Ronda
Hauben@yfn.ysu.edu (2510)


> In a previous article, wich1820@ww.tu-berlin.de (Thorsten Wichmann) says:

> >Any suggestions who will or should win the Nobel prize for economics
> this time?  
> >What about Mancur Olson???
> >
> I can't say who will win it because those who make real breakthru's in 
> economics will not even be considered.

> But I have a suggestion of who SHOULD win the Nobel prize for economics

> The world in general is in economic doldrums -except for one significant
> and amazing breakthru - that is the significance of the telecommunications 
> revolution that has created the BIGGEST MACHINE IN THE WORLD  - the 
> connection of automation and of people -

> This is an outstanding development which has been clarified in a recent
> article that was posted on the net "Net Cultural Assumptions..."
> by Gregory G. Woodbury. 
>  
> The essence of the article is that the development of the net has
> been the hard work of many people who wanted to communicate and who
> therefore did the hard work necessary to make such communication possible.

> And the communication that is now possible and functioning is a very
> important achievement.

> The splendid achievement of USENET News and the many pioneers unsung
> and unrewarded - who put hard time and energy into both the work to
> make usenet possbile via the programs needed and the working out of 
> the theory of why it was something important.

> Usenet has meant that people around the world have wanted to figure
> out how to be connected with each other and so the nets like
> the Internet, UUCP etc. have developed and spread.

> (Not only do these pioneers deserve the economics prize but also
> the peace prize).

> This is an unnoted achievement of our times - and it was build on
> restricting commercial usage and ecouraging education and research
> activity and purposes.

> This flies in the face of all the current dominant economic dogma
> which proclaims commercial the be all and end all (and is thus
> responsible for the bankrupting of whole countries and societies).

> So there is a need for a legitimate Nobel Prize in economics
> to be awarded  - but it is hard to believe that any such thing is
> yet possible.

> But it was good that you asked.

> >Thorsten
> >
> >==============================================================================
> =
> >T. Wichmann, Dept. of Economics, Technical University of Berlin
> >
> Ronda
> -- 
> Ronda Hauben                    email address:ae547@yfn.ysu.edu
> Amateur Computerist Newsletter              or
> P.O. Box 4344                   rhauben@heartland.bradley.edu
> Dearborn, MI 48126


So Ronda, you want to award the Nobel prize to.....

THE UNITED STATES MILITARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep in mind that the original internet was a military project.  The
military realized that having its academic, private sector and in house
scientists able to communicate by computer would be beneficial to it, so
it funded the original backbone system.  Later, the academic and private
groups added on communications outside of their workplace and internet
became what we know it as today.  But it was the military that first saw
the need and found the funding and leadership to put the networks
together.

Have a nice day.

					Tom the non hacker
					Kemp in 96!
					"If patriotism is the last refuge
					of scoundrels,  Then environmentalism
					is the current refuge of totalitarians."
					Bob Jackson
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