HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: marcs@slc.com (Marc San Soucie)
Subject: Re: Need info on UNIX relational databases
Organization: Servio Corp, Beaverton Oregon, US
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:54:49 GMT

jdr@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM (Jon Roland) writes:

> The format is name, address, phone, product name, and comment. Please
> provide any additions or corrections.

	Servio Corporation
	950 Marina Village Parkway
	Suite 110
	Alameda, CA 94501 USA
	510-814-6200 -or- 800-243-9369
	Gemstone
	OODBMS
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: HELP! db_Vista needed!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:40:02 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto) writes:


>	Does ANYONE know about db_Vista?  It's my understanding
>that db_Vista is "free software" but no one here at my office has
>ever heard of it...

The only thing that is free in life is disappointment. :-)

No, the source costs fairly significant dollars. You may then develop your 
application under restrictive terms on one machine, using one programmer etc 
etc unless you pay more. But, once you have an application ready, you may 
distribute the binary code royalty free. This is perhaps where the confusion 
comes in.

fred
-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Paradox Command Line Switches?
Date: 13 Sep 92 22:37:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep11.173501.2991@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cyj9h@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU (Charles Y. Choi) writes:
>From: cyj9h@csissun12.ee.Virginia.EDU (Charles Y. Choi)
>Subject: Paradox Command Line Switches?
>Date: 11 Sep 92 17:35:01 GMT

>Does anybody here know what all of the command line switches to
>Paradox 3.5 are?  For the life of me, I can't find it in the docs.

>What I really want to do is to be able to view a table through
>some variation of paradox <some switch> <filename>.  I don't want
>to have resort to a script file to accomplish this.

>Thanks!

>-charles
> cyj9h@Virginia.EDU

> 
>-- 
>"What a morning!  Birds, fish, frogs, and humans!"
>                                      -Maya the Bee

Paradox command-line options
-----------------------------------
 -b&w		sets paradox for monochrome monitor
 -cachek n	sets the cache size in kbytes
 -color		sets paradox for color monitor
 -emk n		allocates less than all expanded mem to paradox (kbytes)
 -extk n        uses extended mem as swap device (kbytes)
 -mono		sets paradox for monochrome monitor + MGA
 -net path	specifies location of paradox.net in "path"
 -prot		start paradox in protected mode
 -real		real mode
 -share		non-dedicated file server option
 -snow		snow checking for CGA
 -sql <on|off>	turns on /off SQL Link
                if on and SQL Link not present, pdox does not start
 -stack n	kbytes internal stack
 -tablek n	table buffer space ( > 24) in kbytes
 -username name starts paradox as username=name
---------------------------------------------------------------------

in short, no.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - Douglas Adams
  - Patrick Taylor                                       (Arthur Dent)
    Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    or exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org, exu.exuptr@memo.ericsson.se
From: DEVRIES@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (Ernie DeVries)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Paradox Engine, TPW, & VB????
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:23:55 GMT

There is a product called VBPX that says it provides a seamless interface
between Visual Basic and the Paradox Engine.  I've seen ads for it, but have
never seen the product.

VBPX is from Akros, Inc.
             115 N. Center Street, Suite 204
             Northville, MI 48167
             (313)347-3556
             (313)347-3765 FAX
+========================================================+
|     /\                   Ernie DeVries                 |
|    /  \/\      Academic/Personal Computer Services     |
| /\/    \ \/\       DeVries@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu          |
|   Northern Arizona University   "The Mountain Campus"  |
+========================================================+
From: dave@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us (Dave Szczepanski)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Opinions/Experiences of Recital or Empress
Keywords: Recital Empress
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:41:27 GMT
Organization: Intran, Inc.

The subject says it all.  I'll post a summary of all mail replies.

Thanks

-- 
Dave Szczepanski				Intran Inc.
dave@nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us			869 Delaware Avenue
rutgers!ub!nemesis.orchard-park.ny.us!dave	Buffalo, NY 14209
						716-881-7817
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: HELP! db_Vista needed!!
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs 
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:27:11 GMT


In article <1992Sep11.144002.29322@compu.com>, fr@compu.com (Fred Rump
from home) writes:
|> tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >	Does ANYONE know about db_Vista?  It's my understanding
|> >that db_Vista is "free software" but no one here at my office has
|> >ever heard of it...
|> 
|> The only thing that is free in life is disappointment. :-)
|> 
|> No, the source costs fairly significant dollars. You may then develop your 
|> application under restrictive terms on one machine, using one
programmer etc 
|> etc unless you pay more. But, once you have an application ready, you may 
|> distribute the binary code royalty free. This is perhaps where the
confusion 
|> comes in.
|> 
|> fred
|> -- 

	I want to thank all of you who responded about my question of
db_VISTA... I now know that it's NOT FREE...but here is another
question...

	There is an application that we are interested in buying that
apparently uses db_VISTA or Raima data manager as it seems to be 
called now...we are planning on having the application ported to 
our Unix based platform...if the makers of the application using this
database do the porting and we get ONLY the Binary code that they
ported for us, does our division still have to buy a liscence? 
	sorry for the stupid question, but I'm quite new to this type
of stuff.

	Again, thank you for your help.
=========================================================================
Teddy Nishiyama  (tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp)  OMRON Corporation  (^_^;
R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
From: DEVRIES@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (Ernie DeVries)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Question about memo field in Paradox 4.0
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:19:42 GMT

According to the Paradox 4.0 documentation, you cannot append an ASCII delimited
file to a table with a memo field (or binary either).  It would appear that if
you imported using Delimited instead of AppendDelimited that Paradox would
truncate your memo entry at 255 charachters and place it in an A255 type field.

If you use the Text type import, which wraps long fields onto successive
records, there may be a way to use a PAL script to concatenate the entries
back together to make a real memo field entry.

This looks like a good candidate for a product like Conduit from Kallista.  I
don't know if they have a version out yet for Paradox 4.0.
+========================================================+
|     /\                   Ernie DeVries                 |
|    /  \/\      Academic/Personal Computer Services     |
| /\/    \ \/\       DeVries@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu          |
|   Northern Arizona University   "The Mountain Campus"  |
+========================================================+
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: Do Paradox and LANtastic play nice together?
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:48:53 GMT

brigc@world.std.com (Brig C McCoy) writes:

>Had a friend ask me about how to set up his copy of Paradox (3.5) 
>to work with LANtastic. Looking at the Paradox docs, I find refs
>for Novell and 3com, but that's it. Does anyone know whether
>LANtastic is enough like Novell or 3com that Paradox will work?

As long as Paradox can find its PARADOX.NET file, *in the same directory*
for each user, it ought to work.  In other words, the directory used must
be mapped to the same drive letter and directory for each user, and all
users must have RW access to it.  Individual PARADOX.CFG files can be in
different places.  You must also be sure (this applies to _any_ network)
that the user's private directory is unique.  If you simply change to the
data directory and start Paradox, no other user will be able to start in
that directory (you'll get a "Directory...is the private directory of...")

-JTT

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: mpdillon@uuisis.isis.org (Michael Dillon)
Subject: looking for record locking techniques
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 15:17:41 GMT

I'm designing a database system that will be released as freeware
(similar to GNU) when it is finished. Before we freeze the database
format we want to have a clear idea of how we will handle record locking,
before-imaging, database recovery, and transaction processing 
(commit/rollback).  
 
Does anyone have references to the literature that covers such issues.
Any books, journal articles, CS tech reports etc... would be welcome.
Or, if there is source code available on the net, that would be helpful
too.
 
please reply via e-mail as I do not read this group regularly.
 
And if there is somewhere else I should post this request, let me know.
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: oytor@teleserve.no (Oystein Torbjornsen)
Subject: Re: Hot Standby DBMS's
Organization: Teleserve Transaction Technology, Trondheim, Norway
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 14:14:43 GMT

In article <BuAHM6.Ds4@cup.hp.com>, dhepner@cup.hp.com (Dan Hepner) writes:
|> From: dboyce@hemel.bull.co.uk (David Boyce)
|> >Interfaces for obtaining journal data from an RM and passing it to an
|> >standby RM would be needed, as would RM-independent methods of recovery
|> >and catch-up.  Not beyond the wit of man, I would have thought.
|> >
|> >Obviously the database vendors need to be convinced of the need to make
|> >this interface available. 
|> Any ideas on how to convince them?  In particular, it needs to be
|> shown what can be done using this scheme which the DB vendors 
|> could not do themselves.  Intuitively, one would say "but it's
|> more open".  In what way does this openness benefit anyone?

The main goal for hot standbys are high availability to data. Current hot
standby solutions are able to mask environmental failures (eg. earthquake,
flood, power), operator failures (the two systems are run by two different
system operators), and soft/transient software errors (heisenbugs). By
introducing an open standard the customer can use DBMS' from different vendors
for primary and hot standby. If the software at the primary failes hard
(bohrbug) the hot stanby can take over and most likely be able to run the
transaction(s) that failed on the primary.  The two DBMS' is likely to be
implemented by different people using different languages and different
mechnisms and therefore have independent failure modes. The effect is coarse
granularity N-version programming.  

-- 
Oystein Torbjornsen                                  Phone: +47 7 596541
Teleserve Transaction Technology AS                  Fax:   +47 7 596538
N-7005 Trondheim, NORWAY                             Email: oytor@teleserve.no
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price)
Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation Users?
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:03:02 GMT

dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd) writes:


>Are there any ARev users in this newsgroup?  I'd like to know if this is
>a place to get/give help with Arev.

>If there were enough of us around, what about setting up an
>Arev-specific newsgroup?

Count me as a user. There is also a employee of Rev Tech who follows this
group. Perhaps you are volunteering to count the users of are to ascertain the
interest level??

chad


--
chad
price@helios.unl.edu
cprice@molecular.unmc.edu
From: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Clipper GUI
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:33:05 GMT
Reply-To: jpennell@axion.bt.co.uk (John Pennell)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs



Help!

I haven't got time to wait for Aspen, I need a GUI for Clipper now.  I understand that there is one available on the public domain somewhere.  Unfortunately, I have trouble using FTP here.  If anyone can help me - I would be very grateful.
From: nhb1038@ddou.dla.mil (ramona lower)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Restoring Menu Popups in Foxpro 2.0
Keywords: Foxpro Popup menu restoring
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:47:30 GMT
Organization: Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center, Ogden, UT

The FoxPro 2.0 Menu Builder has no facility (at least none that I'm aware of)
to enable menu popup structure to be restored to their states prior to
selecting from the menu.  I have a system which consists of several applica-
tions that are launched from a rather deep menu structure of popups.  When
an application is terminated, the menu (_MSYSMENU) is restored to its 
original state making it necessary to go through the popup structure again
in order to select another application from the same menu popup.  I've tried
putting ACTIVATE POPUP (POPUP()) in the clean-up code which is executed when
a <Quit> is selected and the menu popup structure is restored okay, except
that when another application is launched from the same popup, a DO seems to
be executed somewhere for each menu popup that is re-activated.  Each
application is exited by a simple RETURN statement.  Is there a way to restore
a menu popup system (upon application termination) without the DO nesting-level
being exceeded when another application is launched?

Brent Wolf, Computer Specialist
DSAC-H, Ogden, Utah
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: denisl@col.hp.com (Denis Lambert)
Subject: Btrieve for Windows Question
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:06:51 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Subject: Btrieve for Windows Help
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer
Distribution: 

I am considering moving some of my Btrieve DOS programs to windows and 
while reading Novell Bullets, December 1991 issue it appeared as if the
call to Btrieve has changed from BTRV to BTRCALL and the arguments are
different.  Can someone out there who has made the port from Btrieve for
DOS to Btrieve for Windows give me some insight on what has changed and
how difficult it is to make the switch.  What is the DLL interface for
Borland C++ and Turbo Pascal for Windows?  If the port is any effort I
am considering switching to Paradox Engine so that I will be able to 
take advantage of Paradox for Windows when it becomes available.

Thanks,

Denis Lambert
denisl@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: brian@rex.chb.uokhsc.edu (Brian Fairless)
Subject: Foxpro 2.0
Originator: usenet@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:25:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center, OKC


I have foxpro 2.0 still in the shrink wrap.
Anyone interested . . . .?

Brian-Fairless@uokhsc.edu
From: carl.pedersen@dartmouth.edu (L. Carl Pedersen)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Databases & Ethics
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:50:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.databases,comp.databases.ingres
Organization: Dartmouth College

In article <1608@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, dl1@ukc.ac.uk (Duncan Langford) wrote:
> 
> I recently posted a request for some input on an ethics option
> a colleague and I are putting together - the target group
> are third year computer science students. I posted here,
> because we're under the 'umbrella' of a final year database
> course, and it seemed to us that input on ethical issues
> would be especially valuable from this group.
> 
> The response was very interesting. Several people asked for
> copies of replies, or indicated that they're
> keen to help (and have; thanks!) but others expressed
> surprise at any database/ethics connection - 'there's no
> relevance to databases' being a typical response.
> 
> There have been no postings here - all replies have been
> by email - which normally means people don't think the
> subject is of general interest?
> 
> I feel this is a pretty important issue, and one having
> strong links to database issues, as well; but do people
> generally believe it's irrelevant? If so, this in itself
> is - to me - rather worrying.
> 
> Comments, anyone?
> 
> - duncan

I assume the issues that concern you are abuse of information and invasion
of privacy (which might be the same thing).

These are legitimate issues, worthy of public discussion, and they
certainly worry me.

Unfortunately, the news is organized as a hierarchy, instead of a set of
relations.  So, it isn't immediately obvious where a discussion of ethics
relating to databases belongs.  However, I don't think a discussion like
this belongs in this group.  The group comp.society.privacy is one that
might be appropriate.  There may be others.

I think database technology is a bit different from, say, nuclear
technology.  Some might argue that nuclear technology is so fraught with
dangers and political problems that social/ethical issues cannot be
separated from technical issues.  (I'm not saying I agree or disagree with
this.  I'm just suggesting that some people might say this.)  I don't
*think* anybody would argue that discussions of say, normalization, or
differences between database systems cannot be separated from discussions
of ethics, societal impact, etc.
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd)
Subject: Re: AREV 3.0
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:53:45 GMT


What is the release date for ARev 3.0?


|/ David M. Todd \ " " " " / Phone:  413/545-0158 \ " " " " /Fax: 413/545-5345\|
|DTodd@Titan.ucc.UMass.EDU [or todd@umass.bitnet or David Todd on UMass/Saturn]|
|Department of Psychology, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003   USA|

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.isdn
From: joel@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Joel S Noble)
Subject: Need 2B+D residential pricing info (all providers)
XXXDate: Sun, 11 Oct 92 19:08:54 GMT
XUserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
XXXMessageID: <A6FDC9D6C701071C@joel_noble.mrg.uswest.com>
Organization: U S West MRG
NntpPostingHost: joel_noble.mrg.uswest.com
Distribution: usa
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:08:58 GMT



I am looking for any pricing info. for residential ISDN (2B+D, of course)
today.  Even if it's not commonly offered outside of the central city,
for example,  just would like to have the info so that I can give the
people I work with some idea about where prices are today.

I will gladly pass on to anyone a summary of responses.

Please respond to:  joel@balboa.mrg.uswest.com

thanks!
From: ms@Germany.EU.net (Marc Sheldon)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.isdn
Subject: Re: TCP/IP over ISDN What's happening in Germany?
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:13:59 GMT
Organization: EUnet Backbone, Dortmund, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: walhalla.germany.eu.net

koelman@cuby.stc.nl (Ton Koelman) writes:
>So what's happening with TCP/IP and UUCP over ISDN in Germany?
>Is it a regular eunet service?

Yup, we offer TCP/IP over ISDN as a regular way to connect to
EUnet in Germany in our POP's in Munich, Hamburg and Berlin as
well as in the central location in Dortmund.

Cheers,
	Marc
--
Marc R. Sheldon                             e-mail : ms@Germany.EU.net
EUnet Germany
University of Dortmund, CS-Department
P.O.Box 500500                              voice  : +49 231 7552444
Xref: sparky comp.dcom.isdn:539 comp.protocols.ppp:773
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.isdn,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: compression over isdn links
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:26:33 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <192m0qINNp2s@nigel.msen.com>, emv@msen.com (Edward
Vielmetti) writes: 

> One reasonable approach would seem to be to put v.42bis compression right
> in there with the v.110 or v.120 async rate adaption.  That could be done
> in the terminal adapter relatively transparently to ordinary async devices.

We've been thinking about this in CCITT Study Group XVII (the 
committee that works on V.110 and V.120).  Unfortunately, it's not a 
simple as it seems.  V.42bis (and any data compression scheme) 
requires an error-free link, which V.110 does not provide; you'd 
have to run LAPM over V.110 (which might not be too bad).  V.120 
provides an error-free link, but not the XID exchange that V.42bis 
needs to negotiate parameters end-to-end.  We've though about using 
Q.931 to negotiate the V.42bis options, but so far almost no 
networks are supporting end-to-end user parameter negotiation.

> People are beating each other over the head right now to build v.42bis
> circuits for analog modems, it seems as though you could leverage off some
> of that development.

That would certainly be the plan!

> A second approach would be to move the compression up to the next layer,
> e.g. use a compressing PPP implementation and do the work in the router. 
> This would eliminate the need for special ISDN gear and would move the
> work into the (rather more competetive) router software realm.  I'm not
> sure where the state of the compressing PPPs is, though there seems to be
> talk of (interoperable?) implementations underway. 

That would certainly be a good alternative solution.  Personally, 
I'd like to see it done in the TA so that it would be applicable to 
any async traffic, just like in modems, but considering the 
roadblocks we're running into with getting the networks to carry the 
V.42bis negotiation, perhaps it would be more expedient to add the 
compression "over their heads" (so to speak).

-- 
Toby Nixon, Principal Engineer      | Voice   +1-404-840-9200  Telex 401243420
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc.  | Fax     +1-404-447-0178  CIS   70271,404
P.O. Box 105203                     | BBS     +1-404-446-6336  AT&T    !tnixon
Atlanta, Georgia  30348             | UUCP uunet!hayes!tnixon  Fido   1:114/15
USA                                 | Internet                tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.isdn
From: charlson@trust.gsfc.nasa.gov (Deane Charlson)
Subject: ISDN & Government Agencies ?
Summary: ISDN Procurement for Government Agencies Question
Keywords: ISDN,government,procurement,standards
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:28:48 GMT

I have some questions regarding government agencies procuring new phone/ISDN
systems in the next year or so.

Is it mandatory to use ISDN or is it just necessary to have that capability?
If it is mandatory, says who?  What standards are the systems required to be 
compatible with?   Will it be a CCITT, National ISDN 1, and/or ANSI standard? 

I've been trying to follow government requirements with respect to ISDN for
some time now but recent articles have me somewhat confused as to what is
actually required versus what is recommended.

Any information or feedback would be greatly appreciated!


Deane R. Charlson		charlson@trust.gsfc.nasa.gov
NASA				dcharlson@zaphod.gsfc.nasa.gov
Goddard Space Flight Center	Phone:	(301) 286-7883
Greenbelt, MD 20771		Fax:	(301) 286-7538

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.isdn