HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcd@raven.eklektix.com (Dick Dunn)
Subject: Re: Sales tax - 3.3 kept by merchant (not)
Summary: wrong numbers, bad math
Organization: eklektix - Boulder, Colorado
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:31:59 GMT

fielden@spot.Colorado.EDU (j. a. fielden) writes:
> I read this week that out of the sales tax collected by merchants
>they get to keep 3.3% of it. When the sales tax was instituted they
>were allowed to keep 5% as an incentive to collect it and it was lowered
>to 3.3 in 1964(I think). 

Just as an example, the numbers for Boulder city and the state are each
1.5% *of*the*tax* *collected*.  I don't have the numbers for RTD or our
county, but the city and state taxes are most of the sales tax anyway.

City tax (last form we could find) is 2.86%; state tax (whew!) is 3%.  The
merchant gets 1.5% of 5.86%, or 0.0879% of actual purchase amount.

>Does anyone else think that this is ridiculous that they are allowed to
>retain so much?...

88 cents retained per thousand dollars of purchase amount???  I think your
argument is ridiculous.  There are very few businesses where the purchase
amounts are large enough that this begins to pay for the bookkeeping.

[Surely you didn't think the merchants got 3.3% of the total purchase
amount???  Or did you think that merchants outside the urban areas, where
the total sales tax is only 3%, were collecting taxes, keeping them all,
*and* getting paid 0.3% by the state?  Nah...]
-- 
Dick Dunn    rcd@raven.eklektix.com   -or-   raven!rcd    Boulder, Colorado
	...Simpler is better.
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 03:08:36 CST
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
To: status@sura.net
Subject: NAVO Outage




11/5
0330-0430	The NAVO Office at Stennis Space Center, MS, will
		experience a 1 hour outage due to a T1 cutover
		from JSU to the NEO MCI POP.  All Stennis NASA offices,
		Naval Offices, and the POPS Supercomputer Center
		will be unavailable during this window.


Kenneth Finnegan
POPS Supercomputer Center
Communication Engineer
(601)688-4682
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 21:12:32 -0500
From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/07/92 NSS 9 College Park Unreachable 20:56-21:06 EST


11/07/92 NSS 9 College Park Unreachable 20:56-21:06 EST
due to software problems.

--Michael O'Neill
  ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:59:32 -0500
From: klong@sura.net
To: status@sura.net
Subject: NRL down


11/12/92	The Naval Research Lab is currently experiencing
07:30		line difficulties.  We have no estimated time of
                repair.


Kim Long
SURAnet Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 11:57:13 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: IDA down 



11/09/92	IDA - The Institute for Defense Analyis
11:55		This site is curently down due to circuit problems.
		No uptime is known at this time.




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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:38:29 -0500
From: General NOC signon <noc@noc.ans.net>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/14/92 ENSS 136 / NSS 9 College Park Scheduled Maintenance 12:00 - 12:30 EST

11/14/92 ENSS 136 / NSS 9 College Park Scheduled Maintenance 12:00 - 12:30 EST
From 12:00 to 12:30 EST ENSS 136 and NSS 9 College Park will be unreachable
due to a restart of the rcp_routed.  The restart is needed to reconfigure
FIX-East routers.

Selina Priestley
ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 11:15:11 -0500
From: vargish@sura.net
To: status@sura.net
Subject: E. I. Dupont Experimental Station unreachable

11/9/92		E.I. Dupont Experimental Station unreachable
11:10 --	The Proteon router for the Dupont Experimental Station
		is currently unreachable due to an as-yet undetermined
		problem. We are currently working on the problem, and
		hope to have connectivity restored shortly.

Nick Vargish
SURAnet Operations
(301) 982-3214
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:01:49 -0500
From: Youthana Sivali <youth@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: DMHS Down




11/11/92	DMHS - The Dupont Manual Magnet High School site in Louisville,
22:00-		       is currently down due to unknown problems. No estimated
		       uptime can be given at this point. No other sites are
		       affected by this outtage.






Youthana Sivali
SURAnet Operations
(301)982-3214


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:32:11 -0500
From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/15/92 Scheduled Maintenance on Regional Network 01:00-07:00 EST


11/15/92 Scheduled Maintenance on Regional Network 01:00-07:00 EST.
Between the hours of 01:00 and 07:00 on 11/15/92, carriers will
be performing scheduled maintenance on the following regional
network:
	
	AS 590 EASInet Regional Network
 
While no one activity should isolate this regional network for
more than two minutes at a time between the hours of 01:00 and 07:00,
the possibility for disruption (routing 
instabilities and dropped connections) of service exists.

--Michael O'Neill
  ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 09:45:00 EST
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/11/92 ENSS 150  CONCERT Unreachable 09:00 - 09:40 EST due to loss of power at the local site.

   11/11/92 ENSS 150  CONCERT Unreachable from 09:00 - 09:40 EST
   due to loss of power at the local site.
   

--Anthony Philyaw
  Merit Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:39:24 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: JSU


11/06/92	JSU2
15:00		The Jackson State University (Cisco) is up and
		stable; however, Mississippi State Computer
		Center is still unreachable due to a problem
		with the JSU (Proteon) gateway.


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From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:54:47 EST
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/09/92 ENSS 141  Boulder & ENSS 142  Salt Lake City Unreachable from 17:02 - 17:36 EDT.

   
On 11/09/92 ENSS 141  Boulder & ENSS 142  Salt Lake City unreachable 
from 17:02 - 17:36 EDT due to core router interface failures. 
   

--Anthony Philyaw
  Merit Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 14:35:31 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: DPT back up



11/09/91 	DPT - Dupont Experimental Station
14:30		The response and packet loss problems to this site
		have been corrected.  This site should now be reachable.

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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 06:58:22 -0500
From: Alesia Slocumb <slocumb@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: CHL-S is down


6:30am
11/05/92
                                  CHL-S is down
                                  The Universidad de Chile (Santiago, Chile)
                                  is down at this time.  No up time is known
                                  as of yet.

                                                               Thank You
                                                               A.B. Slocumb
                                                               SuraNet Operation
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 04:26:44 CST
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
To: status@sura.net
Subject: NAVO Reachable



11/5/92
0430 CST	The NAVO Office at Stennis Space Center, all
		NASA SSC Networks, and the POPS Supercomputer
		Center are now reachable.


Kenneth Finnegan
POPS Supercomputer Center
Communication Engineer
(601)688-4682
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 06:59:14 -0500
From: Alesia Slocumb <slocumb@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: NSBE is back up


110992
7:00 am                          NSBE is back up
                                 The National Society of Black Engineers is
                                 back up at this time.

                                                         Thank You
                                                         A.B. Slocumb
                                                         SuraNet Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:34:14 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Cc: tbowers@sura.net
Subject: T3 maintenance ...


11/13/92	Maintenance on the T3 line between SURA8 and WTN1 is complete.
09:00		Routing is now stable.




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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 18:00 CDT
From: "Bill Brown, Postmaster" <WLB%MEMSTVX1.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject: Re: VAND-P and MEM-ST unreachable
To: status@sura.net
X-Vms-To: IN%"status@sura.net"

Hello,

      I am dialed into the Memphis State system from home.  I saw the note
about the outage...The MEM-ST Proteon seems to be working, but from here
I can not tell anything about the CSU/DSU or line.  If the problem seems
to be with Vandy's Proteon, then there is nothing I can do.  But if the
problem seems to be with the link between here and there, I can run
into campus and take a look.  Let me know what you think.

Bill Brown
Technical Support
Memphis State U.
wlb@memstvx1.bitnet
wlb@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 07:07:05 -0500
From: Alesia Slocumb <slocumb@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: VAND-P is back up


110892
7:00am                             VAND-P is back up
                                   Vanderbilt is now back up at this time.

                                                         Thank You
                                                         A.B. Slocumb
                                                         SuraNet Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 08:20:24 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: T3 maintenance ...



11/13/92	The T3 line between SURA8 and WTN1 will be taken down
09:00		for maintenance around 9:00am today.  Traffic normally using
                this line will be routed via SURA9, WVnet, and then to WTN.


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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 11:36:44 -0500
From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/05/92 CIC-NSI Unreachable 11:26 - ? EDT

11/05/92 CIC-NSI Unreachable 11:26 - ? EDT
due to a blown circuit breaker.  This should be taken
care of shortly.

Selina Priestley
ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:19:19 -0500
From: Youthana Sivali <youth@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: TJHS Down



11/10/92
15:50- 		TJHS - The Thomas Jefferson High School site in Alexandria, Va
		       is currently down due to unknown line problems. MCI
		       is investigating the problem, but no estimated uptime
		       can be given at this point. No other sites are
		       affected by this outage.




Youthana Sivali
SURAnet Operations
(301)982-3214

email to: noc@sura.net
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 12:47:31 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: CNI unreachable ...




11/11/92	CNI
12:45		The Coalition for Networked Information is currently
		unreachable.  No uptime is known at this time.


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 16:43:06 -0500
From: Youthana Sivali <youth@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: SURA9 to WVnet Correction



11/11/92	SURA9-WVnet
17:00           The line from SURA9 to WVnet will be taken down for testing 
                and a csu swap at 17:00 today. (Not 15:00 as stated in an
		earlier status mail message.) No interuption of service is
		expected. SURA8 will route traffic over the T3 to WTN1.



Apologies for any confusion this may have caused,



Youthana Sivali
SURAnet Operations
(301)982-3214


email to: noc@sura.net
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 00:37:07 EST
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/12/92 ENSS 169  XLINK Unreachable 00:11 EST - ?

11/12/92 ENSS 169  XLINK Unreachable 00:11 EST - ? due to problems
with the circuit.

Stephen Powell
ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:03:40 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: FIT



11/6/92 	FIT
13:00  		Florida Institute of Technology is now back online.


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From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:35:12 EST
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/10/92 NSS 9 College Park Unreachable 01:10 - 01:25 EST

11/10/92 NSS 9 College Park Unreachable 01:10 - 01:25 EST due to a
crash of the psp gateway.  All networks announced via the College Park
T1 node were reachable via the T3 backbone during this time.

Stephen Powell
ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
X-Popmail-Charset: English
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:17:31 EST
From: (Todd West) <todd@tomcat.ocnr.navy.mil>
To: sura-ops@sura.net
Subject: Change for OCNR/ONR Technical Contact

I will be leaving OCNR 11/13/92 and our organization has not, as of yet, 
determined who the technical replacement will be.  Someone from our 
organization will be contacting you as soon as a replacement has been 
named.  Please remove my name from all of your mailing lists.

Thanks,

Todd West
Office of the Chief of Naval Research
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 11:58:49 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: MSU down



11/09/92	MSU - Mississippi State University
11:55		This site is currently down due to circuit problems.
		No uptime is known it this time


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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 11:22:08 -0500
From: "Michael J. O'Neill" <mjo@merit.edu>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/08/92 Scheduled Maintenance on ANS/NSFNET Backbone 01:00-08:00 EST


Between the hours of 01:00 and 08:00 EST on  11/08/92 carriers will  be
performing scheduled maintenance on some of the  circuits  comprising   
the T1 and T3 networks.
While no one activity should result in a noticeable impact the possibility
for disruption (routing instabilities  and dropped connections)
of service exists.  In  addition, the following
sites will be affected during the maintenance window shown below:

   ENSS 129 Champaign           01:00-08:00 EST         1 to 3 minutes
   ENSS 150 CONCERT             01:00-08:00 EST         1 to 3 minutes
   ENSS 134 Boston              01:00-08:00 EST         1 to 3 minutes
   ENSS 168 OARnet              01:00-08:00 EST         1 to 3 minutes

--Michael O'Neill
  ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:31:03 -0500
From: Youthana Sivali <youth@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: OCCS Up



11/10/92	The National Library of Medicine-OCCS Division site in 
15:59-18:45	Bethesda, Md is now back up. The site was previously
                unreachable due to a bad mux card in the the telco
		network.





Youthana Sivali
SURAnet Operations
(301)982-3214

email to: noc@sura.net
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 18:07:39 -0500
From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/08/92 ENSS 143  Univ of Wash Scheduled Maintenance 03:00-04:00 EST


11/08/92 ENSS 143  Univ of Wash Scheduled Maintenance 03:00-04:00 EST.
 All networks announced via the  ENSS 143  Univ of Wash
 T3 node will be reachable  via the T1 backbone
 during this time.

--Michael O'Neill
  ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:15:26 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: SURA9 to WVnet



11/11/92	SURA9 <> WVnet
15:10		The line from SURA9 to WVnet will be taken down for
		testing and a csu swap at 15:00.  No interuption in 
		service is expected.  SURA8 will route traffic over the
		T3 to WTN1.


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 20:44:02 -0500
From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/07/92 ENSS 145  Fix-East Unavailable 20:32-20:38 EST


11/07/92 ENSS 145  Fix-East Unavailable 20:32-20:38 EST
due to software problems.
All networks announced via the ENSS 145 Fix-East T3 node were
reachable via the T1 backbone during this time.

--Michael O'Neill
  ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 06:54:37 -0500
From: slocumb@sura.net
To: status@sura.net
Subject: SOU is down


11/11/92
7:00 am                             SOU is down
                                    The Southern University is down at this
                                    time.  No up time is known as of yet.

                                                         Thank You
                                                         A.B. Slocumb
                                                         SuraNet Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 06:22:17 -0500
From: slocumb@sura.net
To: status@sura.net
Subject: ARECIBO is down


11/09/92
6:20 am                               ARECIBO is down
                                      Arecibo is down at this time.  No up
                                      time is known as of yet.

                                                               Thank You
                                                               A.B. Slocumb
                                                               SuraNet Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:15:53 -0500
From: Tracy Bowers <tbowers@sura.net>
To: status@sura.net
Subject: NRL-CMF down



11/13/92 	NRL-CMF
09:15		This site is down do to a CSU and a repeater malfunction.
		No uptime is known at this time.


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From: "Merit Network Operations Center" <noc@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 01:00:42 EST
To: nsr@merit.edu
Subject: 11/12/92 ENSS 169  XLINK Unreachable 00:11 - 00:46 EST


11/12/92 ENSS 169  XLINK Unreachable 00:11 - 00:46 EST due to problems
with the circuit.

Stephen Powell
ANS Network Operations
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 11:44:21 EST
From: gallo@zeno.fit.edu (Michael A. Gallo)
To: status@sura.net
Subject: FIT Going Down

Florida Institute of Technology will be off-line for approximately one hour
beginning at noon today (November 6, 1992).  

M. Gallo
Newsgroups: sura.noc.status
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 16:50:49 CST
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
To: status@sura.net
Subject: NAVO Outage




11/10/92	The Stennis Space Ctr. and US NAVO Supercomputer Center
16:50 CST	experienced a 1.5 hour outage this afternoon due to a
		fire alarm and subsequent power outage.  Network resources
		have been restored at this time, but some supercomputer
		resources will not be available until approx. 19:00 CST.

		We apologize for any inconvenience.

Kenneth Finnegan
finnegan@navo.navy.mil
POPS Supercomputer Center
Communication Engineer
(601)688-4682
..................................................................................