From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Aliens  ....  does it really matter?
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:11:23 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

In article <1992Aug30.205215.26099@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> orlando@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter J. Orlando) writes:
>Ok.. I know a ton of people are going to hate this post.  But it has
>to be said.  At least in my opinion.

I don't hate it.  Some people agree with you.  Hopefully most other people
are reasonable enough to respect someone saying they don't care for this
discussion.  Doesn't mean it'll stop us, though 8-).

>I, myself love to discuss movies and love to hear how other people
>think about the movies.  It is good that people can discuss stuff like
>this on a news network like this.

That's nice.  Otherwise you probably wouldn't enjoy reading this newsgroup.

>But some of you people have abused the topic of Aliens to the nth degree.
>A lot of the points were made early in the thread.  But people are 
>rehashing and rehashing the same stuff over and over.  

All too true.  I think a number of people participating in this "discussion"
go into with the opinion, "Aliens sucks and this is why!" and others leap
in screaming, "No it doesn't and this is why!" and neither is willing to
truly listen to the other.  But you get that effect when two sets of
fanatics clash head-on.  Good thing we aren't doing this in person, or it
might get bloody 8-].

>Is the really going to change the movie?

No, but it might affect our enjoyment or views on the movie.  There have
been some good points brought up by the Anti-Aliens Faction that I never
really thought about before, like the way the dropship left Bishop in
MedLab when it went to pick up Hicks and co.  A facet of the movie I never
stopped to think about before and defended once I did.

>Is Riddley Scott going to read
>these rehashed posts and say "Gee... so many people think there were some
>plot holes.  I am going to remake the movie so there wont be any plot holes."
>Come on.  

"James Cameron."
"What?"
"James Cameron directed Aliens.  Ridley Scott directed Alien."
"Oh...well, you know what I meant!"

>I am one who like to get in intense discussion about movies but.. come on,
>some people seem to have seen the movie over a hundred times.  

Not yet.  But I'm working on it 8-).  It's not easy having a life and trying
to act like I don't...

>My personal comment is that you have way toooo much time on your hands
>if you know every signal nit picky thing on the movie.  
		   ^^^^^^
"single" I presume.

Hey, I'm an English major - you think I've got something *better* to do with
my education?!

>How about watch another movie?  Rent a classic.  Like The French Connection.
>Maybe a nice a good mystery.  Maybe even a spy movie like the Spy Who Came
>in from the cold.  Something like that.  

What if I don't like "classics?"  Or good mysteries?  Or what if I think Aliens
qualifies as a classic?  It doesn't matter - and I don't care - if you agree
with me, what matters is what I think of it (to me, at any rate) since
I'm the one who's going to be watching it.

>Oh well.  Only some observations made.  If you want to flame this...
>do it to my mail...  I would hate to waste other peoples time with
>wasted bandwidth anyway.

Actually, I think this is a valid point worthy of discussion (which just
goes to show how slow my day is, right?).  There have been a number of times
when people have leapt up and complained, "This <insert name of long
discussion> is BORING!  Would you people please talk about something
else?!" who usually receive replies like, "Well, use kill files if you
don't want to read it," which, while straight-forward, has two flaws: (1)
it doesn't help people who can't do or don't know how to use killfiles, and
(2) it doesn't address their concern, namely that they think the newsgroup's
major discussion is getting inane and they want it to move on to something
else.

Personally, I feel that if more than two people still want to discuss
a topic, then it still deserves to be in this newsgroup, as long as it's
pertinent.  If it gets down to two people, they should take it in E-mail.

Remember: one man's junk posting is another man's topic of discussion.
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
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