HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: fun problem No.2
Date: 20 Dec 92 14:50:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>In article <1992Dec20.025137.12633@bnlux1.bnl.gov> ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang) writes:
>>   As I understand it, it is 1/2.  For the remaining two doors, the chances
>>   are 50:50 to either have them both with goats or to have one door with a

Actually, the chance of remaining two door have both goat is the same as
the one you choose is car, and one goat and one car is the same as the
one you choose is goat.  They are not 50:50 :-)

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: How Turkic are the "Uygurs" (Was Re: Russian in Xinjiang)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na  
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:49:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.203427.5829@news.acns.nwu.edu> carl_@nwu.edu  writes:
>From facial characteristics, Uygurs look much Turk than Kazakhs. Are Kazakhs  
>mixture of Turks and Mongolians?
>
>By the way, Is the word China related to the word "Khitan (Qidan)"? I was told  
>in Russian, a word which sounds very similar to "Khitan" is used to describe  
>people from China.
>

I heard the same story about how "China" really came from "Khitan(Qidan)",
probably make sense, Song was such a wimpy dynasty and was blocked from the
west by Western Xia and QiDan, people along the silk road were probably
still calling China "Tang".  ;->  all foreigners can only heard of QiDan, 
Western Xia was not as powerful also, and QiDan could be the name that's 
pass through the silk road.  On the other hand, Song developed some
good ships to do commerce on the sea route.  
 
>Carl
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 19:30:26 EST
From: Tao Yao <TAYAO@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 1 dime + 1 quarter = 35 cents

Here we go. Two coins are one dime and one quarter. one of them is a dime, and
not a quarter.

P.S. SCC need more posts like this question to calm down a little.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zeng@ecf.toronto.edu (ZENG Roger Wei Gang)
Subject: Re: a picture of Noriko Sakai
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:01:28 GMT

In article <Bz555A.JsL@mach1.wlu.ca> lamx5870@mach1.wlu.ca (lewis lam) writes:
>Anyone out there are interesting to get another picture of "another pretty
>girl", you may go to the news group called "alt.binaries.pictures". 
>I have posted one on there with the title "A Japanese Girl (Noriko Sakai)"
>Hope you guys will like it! 
>                                   Lewis
>
>P.S. I am not sure whether the picture is posted correctly,since it
>     is my first time. Therefore, if you guys can't see it after    
>     decoding it. You might mail me your a/c and I will mail
>     the encode file to you directly if the file is available in my a/c.

It came out alright here at my site. The picture was nice. Noriko in this
picture has a quite different look than her in the picture I posted, but
she's pretty too in this pic anyway. Well done, Lewis.

Just a suggestion, Maybe you could truncate the uuencode file next time,
'cos its big and some sites might cut off articles that are too big. 
-- 
					Roger Zeng
					Engeering Science 9T5
					University of Toronto
					e-mail: zeng@ecf.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: test
Reply-To: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:48:30 GMT


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: pinyin reform
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:09:22 GMT

In article <01GSJW441NJ496VN9G@CWU.BITNET> TAN@CWU.BITNET writes:
>From:   IN%"HUSS8397@iscsvax.uni.edu" 19-DEC-1992 15:34:21.56
>
>
>
I am so glad people are interested in talking about PinYin. I believe any 
format is better than HanZi. HanZi was designed for writing on wooded logs. 
The wood log was precious
comparing with time they need to spend at the time. So HansZi was designed to 
have as much info as possible with limited space. Those info are desirable at 
ancient times , but not necessary. HanZi is an artistical wonder and a 
scientific and technolgical junk. Drop that thing sooner the better.
I believe as computer gets spreaded among Chinese people, The cry for PinYin 
will grow stronger.
From: liqun@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Liqun Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: a fun problem
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:43:18 GMT
Organization: Department of Biochemistry, University of Oxford
Originator: liqun@maclaurin.bioch


There is one condition missing for doing it within 3 times, i.e. whether the odd
ball is lighter or heavier. 

liqun
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:32388 soc.culture.hongkong:16120 soc.culture.taiwan:16058
From: tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: a definition of the Communist in China
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:34:09 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Organization: University of California, Davis / LLNL


Boy.  I just saw the same joke on the definition of CAPITALISM.  Aren't
you ashamed of plagiarizing?


In article <1992Dec11.005113.29608@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> zhang@solar.unsw.edu.au writes:
->
->Following is a definition of the Communist in China.
->
->
->Son (Jian Chen-2): "Dad, I have to do a special report for school.
->                    Can I ask you a question?"
->
->Father(Jian Chen): "Sure son. What's the question?"
->
->Son   : "What is the communist in our country?"
->
->Father:	"Well, let's take our home for an example.  I am the governor,  
->	so let's call me CCP or CG. Your mother always listen to me, so
->	let's call her C-Congress.  We look after you and train you well,
->	so let's call you my successor.  We will call the maid people and
->	your younger brother(Jian Chen-3) the Communist's Future.
->
->Son   :	"I am not really sure, dad. I will have to think about it."
->
->That night awakened by his brother's crying, the boy went to see what
->was wrong.  Discovering that his brother had seriously soiled his diaper,
->the boy went to his parents' room and found his mother sound asleep.  He
->went to the maid's room, where, peeking through the keyhole, he saw his
->father in bed with the maid.  The boy's knocking went totally unheeded
->by his father and the maid.  So the boy returned to his room and went
->back to sleep.
->
->The next morning he reported to his father.
->
->Son   : "Dad, now I think I understand what the Communist is."
->
->Father:	"Good son! Can you explain it to me in your own words?"
->
->Son   : "Well Dad, while CCP or CG is screwing people, C-Congress is
->	sound asleep, the successor is being completely ignored and
->	the Future is full of shit."
->
->
->*********************************************************************


--
Terry Cheung
tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: FUN PROBLEM NUMBER 2: ANSWER
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:40:59 GMT
Organization: UB


Well, not REALLY the answer.. :) but,

Apparently people are arguing whether switching has a 1/2 chance or 2/3 chance
of winning. I say: Switch! You have nothing to lose.. (1/2 or 2/3? ain't bad)

NW
---
NOT Danielle Wei and NOT the math type
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:30:49 EST
From: <ROS100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject:    Mongolia

Hello everyone:

Could someone please tell me how the Han Chinese feelabout the Mongolians (aft
er the ousting of the Chinese from Outer Mongolia in the 1920's?) and also why
the Mongolians insist that their New Year (which coincidentally falls on the sa
me day as the Chinese New Year) has nothing to do with the chinese new year?

Olej
From: zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: For Someone Who Need Info on Virginia Tech EE Program
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:22:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

Sorry for using the bandwith to send information to a single person. 
I accidently delete his e-mail address.


Ta-Chieng or Ta-Lieng,

              His e-mail address is something like 
              Ta-lieng@cis.ulowell.edu.  

Hi, 

I have found two guys who are willing to help you.  Both of them
do not like e_mail.  But I got their phone numbers, so you may
call them.

Hua, Gui Chao   (office) 703-231-4166
He, Jian Qing   (Home) 703-953-1255

If I can be further help for you, please drop me a note.

Happy Holidays

Yaoen Zhang
From: yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: math problem
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:46:52 GMT
Organization: New York University

ding@eng.auburn.edu (Z. Ding) writes:

>In article <9212110333.AA13492@mariner.sce.carleton.ca> li@sce.carleton.ca (Yao Li) writes:
>>                            Math Problem
>>                            ------------
>>
>>Getting bored? Here is a math problem.
>>
>>There is a polynomial:
>>       -a*y**n + y**(n-1) + y**(n-2) + ... + y + 1 = 0
>>where real number a>0 and the notation "y**n" represents the nth power of y.
>>
>>It's conjectured that this polynomial has a unique positive real solution y.
>>
>>Can you prove it or find a counter example?
>>

>It appears to me that the conclusion depends on the range of "a" and
>whether $n$ is odd or even.

>Example:  n=1 ==> y=1/a is the only positive solution.

>Example:  n=2 and a=2 ==> y=1 and y= -0.5 are both solutions.

>So the conjecture does not hold even for the simple example above.


Only one positive solution, this is correct. see my proof.

Ze Yang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang)
Subject: Re: answer to "math problem"
Organization: New York University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:22:49 GMT

yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen) writes:

>li@sce.carleton.ca (Yao Li) writes

>:Since then, I received many answers. Here I list one due to
>:
>:>prince@ruccs.rutgers.edu (Alan Prince)  Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:17:15 EST
>:>
>:>Let P(y) be the polynomial in question.
>:>      First, notice that, since there is one sign-change in
>:>the coefficients, P(y) has AT MOST one positive zero, by the 
>:>Harriot-Descartes rule of signs.
>:>      Second, notice that P(0) = 1 and P(y) -> -infty as y ->
>:>+infty, so that P(y) must become negative for some y>0.  Therefore
>:>there is AT LEAST one positive zero. 
>:>      QED.

>A very elegant solution indeed !!

I think the method initiated by Zuo Ziqi and modified by another guy
(sorry, I cann't remember his name) is the best. I don't think
many people in the netter know the so-called Harriot-Descates rule.

Ze Yang


>-- Daniel (yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang)
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Reply-To: wang@math.psu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:28:32 GMT

In article 1@cua.edu, chenx@cua.edu () writes:
>In article <15DEC199202400198@utkvx2.utk.edu>, xic@utkvx2.utk.edu (Chen, Xi) writes:
>> Well, the following is an old arithmatic problem, not mathematic problem.
>> 
>> Do you know a poker game called 24 points?  If you know it, you know the 
>> rule.  There are four cards, 5, 5, 5 and 1.  Find an arithmatic expression
>> using all the number once and only once to get 24.
>> 
>> [rule deleted]
>
>I posted this problem this morning, and up to now, I have received two 
>correct responses from
>
>	Zhang, Yuemin   at  Texas A&M   and
>        Yding           at  Pittsburgh
>
>I have also received a mail from Qian Wen at Inst. for Naval Oceanography,
>but the mail was empty.  I do not know what is wrong.
>
> [deleted]

OK, with the above problem, it is easy to derive some more similar
problems, all of them use the denominations in a set of playing cards.
The first group is the above problem.  I worked the other ones out
several years ago.

Reminder of the rule:  you can only use +, -, * and / to get 24.  You
may take the numbers at any order, but each number should be used once
and only once.

1) 1  5  5  5
2) 3  3  7  7
3) 4  4  7  7
4) 2  2  11 11
5) 2  2  13 13
6) 5  5  7  11
7) 5  7  7  11

i) Can you solve each one of them?  It shouldn't be difficult with
   the solution of 1) posted by two other netters.

ii) What do these groups have in common? Can you find any other
    similar groups?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:32:40 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: How can you win?

Many discribe chinese with Du3 Xing4 Jian1 Qiang2(? strong gambling
interest).
I am going to G-city in a few days.
Would you netters  kindly suggest some strategies to win,
so that I can get money donated?
And hope other people win more then donate more.
X Xu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:49:49 GMT

In article <BzDyBx.5tu@cs.psu.edu> wang@math.psu.edu writes:
>In article FtE@acsu.buffalo.edu, dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec16.224410.18421@risky.ecs.umass.edu> mirsip@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Ivan Popstefanija) writes:
...
>>>Easy, hum? A table has four corners, cut one corner and how many left?
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^              ^^^^ 
                                                            not "still have"

>>>I feel like 5-year-old now!
>>
>>Either 5 or 3, depends on how large the cut is..
>>(everybody in china knows this riddle)
>>
>>NW
>
>4 is also possible.
           ????????
>(We are all assuming the cut is a straight line ....)
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The depreciation of RMB
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:08:45 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec15.171942.29196@rpslmc.edu> jwang@rad.rpslmc.edu writes:

>RMB will be depreciated in the short term, but it may appreciate in the long term.
>My guess is: the exchange rate between RMB and US dollar, 10:1 in 5 years and 1:1 in 20 years.

Then sell now, buy it 5 years later, then sell again 20 years later...

:-) :-)

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
From: jmw4a@Virginia.EDU ("John/Chuck Wooldridge")
Subject: Re: Chinese Running Dog
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:18:22 GMT

Are all foreigners running dogs, or just british?

Are all british running dogs?  

Are Germans, Portuguese, French, Russians running dogs?  Do you
count Marx and Lenin?

Were the Yuean and Qing dynasties run (sorry about pun) by
running dogs? Toba =running dogs? 

Is Buddhism a religion of running dogs?

(not trying to provoke anybody, just confused)
From: kzhang@cisco.com (Kui Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: I am being investigated!
Date: 16 Dec 1992 00:14:50 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: regal.cisco.com

In article <1992Dec11.93216.17574@ms.uky.edu>, gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li) writes:
|> How exciting! I am being investigated. Althought I don't know which agency is
|> doing this, there is a message in our computer:
|> 
|> ---------------
|> 	This system is for the use of authorized users only.  Use
|> 	of this system expresses consent to having all activities
|> 	monitored by system personnel to maintain security.
|> --------------
|> 
|> I would leave my will here, if I disappear someday, don't believe that I am 
|> dead of illness, suicide, accident, mental illness or missing or whatever. It
|> can't be.
|> Oh my lord, please don't do this to me. I just doing what I think you want me
|> to do, don't choose me, please, maybe you got the wrong one.
|> AH, they are coming .... sssseeeeee yyyyyyooooooouuu aaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll
|> 


Don't panic. 

This kind of warning message is for potential computer crackers. Because of the
recent decision of Dept. of Justice, it's illegal to monitor suspected computer
crackers without this message.

For example, if someone breaks into your account, your system admin wouldn't be
able to monitor his activity without having displayed that message.

So as long as you don't do anything fancy (such as usurping root privilidge or
poking around other user's directory...), you should be safe. 

It's for the technical health of a computer system, not for political correctness .


.kui
From: x0x6117@zeus.tamu.edu (XU, XIE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: help needed! How to sell Chinese paintings at U.S.?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:43 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
Keywords: Chinese painting, sell
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

hello,
Is there anyone out there knows how to sell Chinese paintings here at U.S.?
I got some very fine ones done by my brother-in-law who is famous in China. 
I really like to find a way to sell them. I would appreciate if you can post 
or send a e-mail to me!
Xu,  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiaohan@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Xiaohan Yun)
Subject: Re: puzzle?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:41:51 GMT


>In article <BzBvyp.FnL@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>>sure. the cow's tail points at sky.
>>
>>Why not at the ground?
>>
>Good question, let me tell you now.
>Because the cow is so clever to make all the turn but do not make any errors.
>What do you think he will feel?
>Of course, "weiba (tail) qiaodao (point at) tianshang quliao"
>
>
 good point! the original anwser as i heard of is ' the cow's tail
points to the groud', but i guess your reasoning maybe more fun than
the original one. it wasn't a serious question anyway, although it
looks like one.

have fun!

Xiaohan

>-- 
>ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
>You have no choice!  
>Ni Biewu Xuanze
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:36:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.221810.12723@cbnews.cb.att.com> liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao) writes:
>Division to me is not a bad idea. I would like to see that happens
>someday. My guess is it's a big plus to Chinese (Hwa Ren). 

Why do you think it's a good thing?  History shows that when China is
divided, it is vunerable to invasions and civil unrest.  The periods
in which China has been divided have been the worst in its history.
There is a reason why the desire for "unity" is strong among Chinese,
and that reason is that unified Chinese government, despite all of
their problems, have historically worked better than divided Chinese
governments.

You might think that dividing China is good because it gets rid of one
oppressive government (the PRC).  Perhaps it would get rid of one
oppressive government, but it would be at the cost of generating
twenty or more oppressive governments.  What's more, all those
governments will be fighting each other.

It is perhaps true that the People's Republic of China is overly
centralized, but dividing the PRC up into a lot of sovereign states
seems to be too much decentralization.

I'm interested in finding out why you disagree.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:11:04 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: How do you say "Will you marry me" in Chinese?

Well,there are a lot of ways to say in chinese.
But hard to tell which saying works better.
It depends.

Old guys sing "Guan1 Guan1 Ju1 Jiu1".
Thanks to Mr. Xiangfei Wang who posted it.
It's beautiful.
Chinese have never been lack of romantic stories.
Certanly they didn't need any paper work then.

Time is changing.
If you sing that, few girls know what you mean.
If they know nothing, that's fine.
You just suppose you said nothing and try other ways.
The problem is that they may misunderstand it.
It may cause you to pay tuition.
And Lix surly is happy to have more students.

X Xu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:49:41 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: about that explosion in the microwave
 <1992Dec17.013018.4752@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>

 >From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu)
 >Subject: about that explosion in the microwave
 >Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:30:18 GMT
 >
 >I once was warming up a boiled egg in the microwave and it exploded.
 >The sound was, boy, frightening. When I started to use microwave I

        I would be surprised if a little bird was
        getting out of it.

 >put everything in an aluminum foil, and I got away countless times
 >without problem. Then came one day a flash and an explosion, some
 >part of the foil melted. That was when the electromagnetic theory
 >I learnt came to me.


        Did you try to probe your waveguide in it
        and enjoy some fantacy?
From: s245@cs.utexas.edu (Spring Class Account)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Tragic Outcome of the Fight Between "P&D Fighters" (Re: Nrews ...)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 01:16:30 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

If we hear more stories like this, soon there might be only one voice left
in this newsgroup.

Should we do something to prevent similar events from happening?

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Several things we can do :

  Post warning messages regularly.

  Teach people how to post anonymously.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao)
Subject: Re: Is Hong Kong people Chinese? (Was: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?)
Organization: AT&T Bell Lab
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:48:32 GMT

From article <BzH0A9.1oC@acsu.buffalo.edu>, by v999rke8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu:
> In article <1992Dec17.235053.17728@cbnews.cb.att.com>, liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao) writes...
>> 
>>TIers believe in freedom of speech. Offensive tone is within the range
>>of personal flavor. It has nothing to do with the concept of "Taiwan
>>Independence". All the TIers I know never use offensive wording.
> 
>  How about "the stupidest"? Do you think it not a offensive word while 
> argueing with others?
> 

Please look at the posting with the above keyword. I don't think I ever
use that word before.

>> 
>>> Taiwanese is not Chinese if China and Taiwan are two different countries. 
>>> Unfortunately to those TIers, although there is two governments, there is 
>>> only one country. 
>>> 
>> 
>>Tell me what is your interpretation to the term "country".
>>Do you mean you support or recognize the fact of " One country, two
>>government"?
> 
> This is a fact, whether one supports or not.
> 

Does Beijing agree with it?

>> 
>>> Remember the old story "White horse is not a horse"? This is logic of TIers. 
>>> If this is true, one can argue that TIers is not Taiwanese.
>>> 
>> 
>>I still don't get the analogy between these two. Can you explain to me?
>> 
> 
>  Taiwan is a part of China. Taiwanese is a part of Chinese. If Taiwanese is 
> not Chinese, the Cantonese is not Chinese, then... White horse is not horse.
> 

I don't buy the analogy. Ask people in Guangdong whether Guangdong is part
of PRC and ask people in Taiwan whether Taiwan is part of PRC, will you.
Be respectful to people. They are no animal.

>>> 
>>> Hsi
>> 
>>Heng-Hsin

Heng-Hsin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong