HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
Subject: Re: Games we play with caged children...
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:30:53 GMT

In article <5199@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
>Kids in cages get such a thrill out of waving at 'cyclists.

Stuff deleted
>
>
>They also like to see variety in hand gestures:
>
>
>     |                     |        \\
>  --- \     \ |||      \ |||         \\\
>  ---  -     \||| --    \||| --    /-\\\\
>  ---        |   |      |   |     |  |  |
>  ---         ---        ---       \-/  |
>            shocka-     I-L-Y       \  /
>thumbs-up    burra                  okay
>
>Shocka-burra is malaysian for everything's cool. It's not spelled right.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Don't know about malaysia, but in Hawaii it's "Shaka Brah" where Brah is
pidgin for "Brother"

>I-L-Y is American Sign Language for I Love (Like) You.
>
>Douglas
>--
>Reply-To: gdls!parker@ilium.troy.msen.com
>DoD #1961    BMW #nnnnn    Renting N56136
>--
>A dress is nothing but pants with one pantleg.
From: alexb@sybase.com (Alex Burmester)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Where to find Meguirs
Date: 24 Aug 92 19:03:22 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

The reason alot of you are having a problem finding this stuff is because it
was originally introduced years ago for all the plexiglass on boats.  I 
suspect since boats have been fiberglass and plexi for much longer than 
motorcycles that if you're having a hard time finding this stuff,  try 
your nearest boat store.  Every boat supply store that I've been to in
the Bay area has had tons of this stuff.  You have to be carefull of
which grade you buy.  Some will scratch the surface even more and some are
too fine to do a damn thing.  I'd say before you buy a bottle,  bring the
bike along and try little dabs of a couple different grades to see which
ones will work for the type of plastic that is scratched.  They recommend
using two bottles of different grades,  one to get the scratches out and
a fine grade to pollish it. 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski)
Subject: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:07:02 GMT

Recently, I've carried a passenger on my '92 CBR600F2.  It seemed like a
great idea until my crotch was smashed up against the gas tank while
slowing and my privates were smashed, causing quite a bit of discomfort. 
Also, I found that there was a tremendous extra load put on my arms while
slowing down due to the increased weight from behind.  I weigh about 175lb
and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
carrying a passenger?

Michael S. Bogdanski
msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ben@flint (Ben Cox)
Subject: Re: Octane question
Keywords: octane
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:31:52 GMT

andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen) writes:

>> 5)  What is the air speed velocity of a Sparrow?

>Exactly 105 mph, unless it is an unladen sparrow, or if it 
>has been treated with slick 50...

Not 114 feet per second?  I heard a story once about some Molson that
could go that fast...

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ben@wri.com  |  reflect those of my employer, Wolfram Research, Inc.
From: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcycle-camping in Yosemite
Date: 2 Sep 1992 04:58:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
NNTP-Posting-Host: danskin.berkeley.edu

From: browning@willard.nas.nasa.gov (David S. Browning)

 >My passenger and I will be camping/hiking in Yosemite during the week
 >of 9/14 - 9/18 (M-F).  I hope to ride there from the SF Bay Area, if I
 >think I can fit packs, sleeping bags, tent, passenger, etc. on my bike
 >(V65 Sabre).  I don't plan to camp at the parking site; we're going to
 >ride into Yosemite Valley, park the bike, hike into the wilderness and
 >camp there.

 >Anybody here done this before?  I'm most concerned about not having a
 >trunk to store stuff in.  I don't want to hike to half-dome with
 >helmets & leathers (though it might make the climb safer :-), but I
 >don't know how to store it all securely.

There were five of us just rode up there two weeks ago. There are lockers 
in Curry Vallage, $.25 for a whole day( maybe longer). We rode up Glacier
Point the first day and camped at Hodge Mealow(Spelling?) camp ground the
that night. The second day, we left all our junk in the lockers and the hiked 
up the Yosemite Falls.

Remember that if it is hot, bring lots of water with you when you hike up.
Also watch out for cops. The ride was wanderful except four out of the five
of us got a ticket, only the last one got lucked out. (Inside of Yosemite). 

Enjoy the trip + fun ride.

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| Zijiang Yang              |   Honda Magna 86 700cc, Kawasaki 89 EX500   |
|                           |   Dod # 582                                 |
| zyang@kuhn.berkeley.edu   |   "When he gets money, he wants to buy toys"|
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:26:31 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Thanks a pant's full, DoD...
	<1992Aug27.230805.9053@research.nj.nec.com>
	<secCo6G00iUxM1hYNg@andrew.cmu.edu>
	<secPuva00WB58MonZz@andrew.cmu.edu>

Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


>Howdy,
> 
>"Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> Would someone please help the newbie poser out?  These older than
>> dried-up batshit brains of mine don't retain useless information anymore
>> (like the titles of books I'm not going to read a second time).  To wit:
>>  Some dude wrote a book about Harley's revival.  The author had access
>> to Harley's top executives and was very sympathetic to the company.  It
>> presented Harley as a shining example of turning a company around by
>> dropping what is bad in America's mfg. attitude and technology and
>> adopting whatever is useful from the Japanese.
> 
>Perhaps you might also mention the innovations that Harley developed,
>such as just on time delivery, etc. that lead to japanese companies
>coming to Harley and touring the plant?  And some people like to
>remember titles so that they don't sound like an incompetant twit when
>they spout off something they remember reading. (and before you call
>me an incompetant twit, the stuff about japanese executives coming for
>a tour was told to me by a Harley employee).

Wrong, Mark.  It was the other way around.  Read the book.

> 
>> >>You know, bandangle, we were discussing you at a club meeting a
>> >>month or so back and several people said, "Oh, he was all right, we
>> >>guess, until he got that Harley.  Now he's got some sort of an attitude.
>> >> Well, what we mean is, he's been fucking insufferable since then."
> 
>Glass houses and all.  It's just that you only seem to be insufferable
>on the net.
> 
>> -peter
> 
>I really hope that you're just making some kinda weird joke or
>something with the attitude that you show in your posts.  You don't
>seem like an insufferable ass in person.  You know, most of the well
>respected people on the net seem to take "live to flame, flame to
>live" with moderation.

I find this paragraph incredible coming from you, Mr. Moderation.

> 
>Mark
> 
>(and btw, Bananna was reading and posting to rec.mc long before you
>were as I recall)

Newbie to me doesn't mean when one starts posting to the net, it's when
one started riding.  You don't even need a motorcycle to post.




-peter

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From: keb@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Ken E. Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 93 Goof2
Keywords: goof2 cbr
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:38:49 GMT
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

93 GOOf2
Has anyone seen them?  Nice colors on the black model.
I was taking a break from traffic safety class, (not related
to my goof2) and had just enough time to take a peek in the
Honda shop.  They had 2 93's in.  The black color scheme is
almost identical to the 900rr black color scheme.  And the 
black F2 now finally has matching black rims.  The  white model
is no longer mostly red but blue and red, still has the white rims
though.  I didn't get a chance to speak to anyone about them but 
would assume that they haven't changed much.
I just thought I'd pass the info along in case anyone is buying
a 92, cause it's a lot easier to clean the black rims on the 93!
 
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Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:32:02 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
	<1992Aug27.191728.19107@i88.isc.com>
Distribution: usa

To the knowledgable souls who have, want to and will tell me to send
Judy to MSF class:

1.  Judy makes up her own mind.  

2.  I told her about the class.  I explained to her the manifold
benefits.  I've let her know that they could teach her things I didn't
even know (not much, but enough).

3.  I made her promise that she'd sign up now for next year before I'd
teach her.

4.  My post was meant to give one person's view to an innocent of what
learning to ride might be like, what size bike might be reasonable, a
pitfall or two to look out for.  It was anything but The Definitive
Answer to her question, and I hope I made that clear.  

5.  I knew I could count on my fellow denizens to call attention to my
errors both glaring and subtle, so there was no danger that said
innocent would be lead astray by my ignorance.

It's so nice to know that there are friends who'll catch you when you fall.
:-) 

-peter

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: (Was) riding clothes choices (Summary
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:16:52 GMT

In <Sep.3.15.12.36.1992.5068@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:



>         I have an '86 FJ1200.  Since this seems to be the bike of
>choice for the DoD, I hope everyone can help.  I am _sorely_ in need
>of a rear tire.  When I got the bike it had a Metzeler ME99, 150/80
>16, in need of replacement.  My cojones steered me towards the ME1
>comp K, in 160/70 16.  The tire was great, but I'm not sure how much
>of its greatness was due to the placebo effect.  Anyway, now that I
>see how quickly it has worn, I am considering a different tire, maybe
>even a different make of tire.  If anyone has any experience with
>these tires, or if a DoD guru has anything to say about the sizes I'm
>considering, please respond.  I thank you.

>(the front is a Metzeler ME33 Lazer,110/80 18)
>(The Stock rear size is 150/80 16)

>I am considering the following:

>1) Dunlop Sportmax ZR Radial 150/80ZR-16 $162.99
>    (oh, yeah, and can I use radial tires?  If yes, can I mix
>front&rear?  This is in the FAQ, isn't it.  Duh.) 

>2) Dunlop K591 Elite SP 150/80V-16 $124.99

>3) Metzeler ME1 Comp K Belted 160/70VB16  $162.99  (Yes, again ... )

>4) Metzeler ME55A Metronic 150/80VB16 $143.99

>5) Metzeler ME99A 150/80V-16  $126.99

>6) Pirelli MP7 Sport 160/60ZR-16 $125.99

>7) Pirelli Match 150/80VB-16 $105.99

>8) Michelin Hi-Sport TX-23 160/80ZR-16 $175.99

>9) Michelin M59X 160/60ZR-16 $146.99

>10) Michelin M59X 160/80ZR-16 $148.99

>                                                 Thanks in advance,
>                                                        Kevin
> 
  I can only comment on a comparison of the Comp-K rear vs. a Michelin
M59x on the rear of an 1100 Geezer. The Comp-K lasted less than 4500 mi.
and should have been tossed well before that. It didn't seem to stand up
to high speeds on the highway especially when it was hot out. The M59x I
have on now has 6500 mi. on it and looks like it could do 12000 mi. It
doesn't stick as good as the Comp-k but works quite well once it is
properly heated up. I made the mistake of mounting a 160/60 instead of
the recommended 150/70 and find that the profile of the tire is altered
into a shape simmilar to a mushroom head, lots of rubber when vertical
(maybe thats why they are lasting so long) , less rubber and a resultant
oversteer when heeled over. I had a bias-ply in front with a radial rear
and although they say its O.K. I didn't care for it much.
      
                                 Jorg
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: thoughts on GS oil
Date: 2 Sep 1992 17:22:15 GMT
Organization: Rice University

I have been using Golden Spectro 10W-40 oil in my Suzuki the past couple 
of changes and have been happy with it.

The most recent oil change, however, left me with only two quarts of the 
stuff.  I called around and finally found a place that had BMW oil made 
by Spectro Oils (the same people who bring you Golden Spectro).  Well, 
I found a quart of 10W-50 with the label "SG 10W-50 GS", i.e. Golden 
Spectro I believe.  Well, turns out that this quart was only $2.20.  This 
price is less than half what Golden Spectro costs, even if ordered 
mail-order!  

My question is, is the the same Golden Spectro or is it a different 
formulation specifically for BMW bikes (which I find hard to believe).

Any thoughts?  If it is GS, then I'm going to start using BMW oil.


--
*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
*  DoD#0402         AMA#?!@#*%  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Subject: Re: randy's deification!?
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Aug31.202234.9978@nsscmail.att.com> <787@zx11.UU <791@zx11.UUCP>
	<1992Sep1.193006.406@halfdome.sf.ca.us>
	<1992Sep2.131241.9214@javelin.sim.es.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:55:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.131241.9214@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>>In article <791@zx11.UUCP>, steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade) writes:
>>> ask Randy Davis (one of the "DoD Gods") what I ride, and why the machine

>>when did randy get deified?  did i miss the apotheosis party?

>A bunch of us were, where were you? But it's strictly a (dis)honorable
>title since it was bestowed by a brown-nosing newbie with a write-only
>brain.

No, no, no.  I think we should let it stand.  And have Randy buy the
beer and invite us all to his party!

No?!?

--
"But the fact that a 1938 touring bodied Alfa Romeo I once had is
worth $1 million sometimes bothers the hell out of me.  It's a
personal problem."                                     -Phil Hill
Iaido   Takamine   Hobie   Rossignol   Alfa Romeo  Ducati (DOD #900)
From: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Accident Report!!!
Date: 4 Sep 1992 05:54:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Reply-To: zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG)
NNTP-Posting-Host: danskin.berkeley.edu

Oh, not my turn!
 but here you go:

It was today, around 3:30pm, I took the road that I ride everyday back home
from school. This road has couple of turns which make a lot more fun to ride.
Since there is not too much traffic, I usually stay as close to the center line
as possible when I make the turns.  It just happened that there was this girl
walking cross the street, (at the intersection of Virginia St. and
Spruce St., if 
you live in Berkeley, watch out for the gravel!), as she was still in the left
lane, I kept on making the turn. But in order to avoid any risk of running into
her, I took a bigger turn than I used to take,  which lead my bike to
this pile 
of gravel close to the side of the street. Gosh, it was fast, the first thing
that I remember was that I passed the girl, the second thing was that I was on
the ground with all the broken pieces of my bike.

The engine was still running while the bike lay on the ground. I didn't
have time
to worry about the bike too much, though I knew the fairing of the bike must
have been damaged, before I feel this acute pain on my left knee...

Fortunately that my bones aren't broken, the pain was from the huge
damage of my
skin. I was wearing leather jacket, but only regular paints. The paints are 
completely ripped at the knee.

The bike (Kawasaki EX500, just got two weeks ago) lost its head light,
and the front
fairing is broken, with a bented mounting braket......

Anyway, I don't know whether I want to comment any more about safe
driving or defensive
riding, since I am really tired now.

Just need some imformation on where to get inexpensive fairing for this
bike, and
the mounting braket. Also the original bike has only a half fairing on
it, is their
a way to get a full fairing that matches the color of the bike(White).
Mail order
or go to the dealer? Junk yard?

I would appreciate it very much.

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| Zijiang Yang           |   Honda Magna 86 700cc, Kawasaki 89 EX500   |
|                        |   Dod # 582                                 |
| zyang@kuhn.berkeley.edu|   "When he gets money, he wants to buy toys"|
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jkosone1@lesti.hut.fi (Jussi T Kosonen)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on VMAX
Reply-To: jkosone1@lesti.hut.fi (Jussi T Kosonen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:04:45 GMT


>|Funny, I've ridden:
>|1. '79 KZ1300
>|2. '85 V-Max
>|3. '90 GSXR 1100
>|4. '91 1100 Katana
>|(none of these my own :-(  )



>
>|I included the KZ1300 simply because it's 6cyl sound is incredible.
>|It was the one I had the most fun on.  Then again, I like UJM's.

I do agree....I have also driven KZ1300 and I loved it...I loved it 
so much that I was considering to buy it last spring..
 I was that guy who was talking about putting a twin turbo to KZ1300.
and I will try to do that someday..

>  You need to ride a ZX someday... :-)  Its the only bike I've experienced
>that makes you think as hard before twisting the throttle to the stop...

hmm.......ZX isn't so dramaticly good.....have you tried ZZR1100..??
it can do about 290km/h....for real.
I think they are all guite good bikes,but there are always progress..
so if you like to ride with the current best bike you should change bike
every year.

Jussi



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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Almost there.........
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:18:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.195928.17776@news.nd.edu> Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:

>Rich Swift     DOD #......................
		^^^

	What's the big deal... if he wants into the Department of Defense, let
	him sign-up at the recruiter's office like everyone else!

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From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What's a "stroker"
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:51:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <1992Sep4.192327.25222@eecs.nwu.edu> mack23@avalon.eecs.nwu.edu (Chris Walsh) writes:
>I figure it's done by dropping on new cyl. heads and whatever the doohickey
>is called that connects the piston to the crankshaft.  Can anybody fill
>me in on the technical details here?
>
    It's done by moving the crankpin out from the axis of rotation of
the crankshaft.  This is done either by replacing the flywheels or by
welding up the previous holes for the crankpin and making new ones.  I
assume familiarity with built-up crankshafts as opposed to one-piece
crankshafts.
    Depending on the engine configuration, it may be necessary to fit
shorter connecting rods, taller cylinder barrels, or pistons with
shorter crowns, to keep the pistons from contacting other expensive
parts.
    My Indian has a bore of 3 1/4" and a stroke of 4 7/16".  The
crankpin offset is 2 7/32".  This produces a displacement of 73.6 cubic
inches.  S&S produces a set of flywheels for it with a crankpin offset
of 2 11/32", producing a stroke of 4 11/16".  This slightly increases
the compression ratio, and "strokes" the engine to 77.8 cubic inches.
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| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|       1938 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:02:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Harley wavers (was Re: Automatics)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server