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From: jameskau@aludra.usc.edu (James Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Allen Smithee
Date: 27 Sep 1992 19:18:49 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <+nhzkfp@rpi.edu> Matt Garretson writes:
>Aside from DUNE (TV cut) and RUBY (1977), what films has Allen Smithee
>directed? And where the hell did this pseudo-guy come from?  Is this in the FAQ?


Alan Smithee is the name that directors use if they don't want their name
on the final product.  Other movies that list "Alan Smithee" as the director
include Appointment with Fear, Bloodsucking Pharoahs in Pittsburgh, Death
of a Gunfighter, Ghost Fever, I love N. Y., Let's Get Harry, Morgan Stewart's
Coming Home, Shrimp on the Barbie, and Stitches.  It's usually not a good
sign (as the list sort of indicates....)

James Kaufman
jameskau@aludra.usc.edu




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From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: If....
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:47:00 GMT


I have long been perplexed by the film "If...." with Malcolm Macdowell.

My first question is, is there any particular reason for the occasional
use of black & white in it? Is there a story behind that?

The film is both brutally realistic and insanely surreal. For example,
the scene where the headmaster opens his drawer and the guy is lying
inside it. I think Lindsay Anderson was just showing that reality and
imagination were blurring together. My guess is that he is showing what
is happening inside Travis's mind and not reality. Do you think so?

The credits mentioned Stephen Frears, who later did The Grifters, unless
it was a different Stephen Frears.

Is this not a remake of Zero For Conduct? If so, why do the credits
mention a script called "Crusaders"?

A must for those seeking the unusual.
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Player
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:57:42 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep30.185410.25403@eecs.nwu.edu>, kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu 
(Michael L. Kaufman) writes:

>>THE PLAYER was better (and IMHO one of the best of the year, too). 
> Why do people like this film so much? I saw it, and I thought it was ok, but
> I didn't think it was anything particularly special. The acting was good, but
> the story was just the typical "Hollywood" story that has been done so many
> times already. Why are you seeing in it that I missed?

Yeah, I know what you mean...I was also really diasapointed that it featured
Julia Roberts and Bruce Willis!  I mean, hasn't that become so common that 
it's almost a joke?  I expected more from Altman...

And the script?  What a joke!  That one line "Traffic was a bitch!",
I mean C'MON!  So hackneyed!  *sigh*  What a dissapointment.

Oh, by the by...  :^)

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: The Barrymores
Keywords: Barrymore
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:23:20 GMT

In <1992Sep28.204051.19935@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>Lionel Barrymore lived to a pretty ripe old age, remaining actively
>crotchety for many years.  He couldn't walk very well in later
>life, due to some sort of health problem.  I have no idea if that problem
>related to substance abuse.

{Gads, it's great to have Microsoft's new Cinemania CD-ROM right here
 on-line!} 

As I remembered, Barrymore's health problems were due to a serious leg
injury and arthritis.  I never heard of any problems related to substance
abuses in relation to L. Barrymore; in fact, most discussion of Lionel
usually discuss how admired and well-liked he was within the Hollywood
community. (He wrote science fiction on the side.)

                           "C'mon boys, don't bother me.  I'm debating Dan
                            Quayle.  The boy's retarded."
                                           -- Senator Birch Bayh
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From: jseaver@arkose.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Next Ah-nold film
Date: 30 Sep 1992 21:41:25 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <80787@ut-emx.uucp> gdavis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Grant R. Davis) writes:
>I just heard on CNN that Arnold Schwarzenegger's next movie is a $60MilUS
>production called 'The Last Action Hero'. Supposedly, the plot revolves
>around a kid who is watching one of Arnold's movies (an all-too common 
>occurrence, IMHO), and then *jumps through the screen* into the movie.
>Can Hollywood and Schwarzenegger really afford to risk 60 million dollars
>on a parody of itself/himself? 

	Well, why not?  If it's a good, fun movie, why should anyone complain?

					-Jay
From: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Cameo Appearance in a Film
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:47:20 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <BvAMC2.DvC@cs.columbia.edu> d-yang@cs.columbia.edu (David Yang) writes:
>
>Frank Oz as a cop in "Trading Places" and a test proctor in "Top Secret".
                                                              ^^^^^^^^^^

I think that was "Spies Like Us", not "Top Secret".

Chuck

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From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Beverly Hillbillies: The Movie!
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:38:19 GMT

Does anyone know the details and can share them?  The news was
really quite about this project... especially about who the
cast members will be (or who was being asked).

-- 
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From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: Re: If....
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:59:52 GMT

In article <26363@castle.ed.ac.uk> adam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Adam Hamilton) writes:
>In article <Bv902D.9rr@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>:
>:I have long been perplexed by the film "If...." with Malcolm Macdowell.
>:
>:My first question is, is there any particular reason for the occasional
>:use of black & white in it? Is there a story behind that?
>:
>	Surely the monochrome (not black and white) sequences are intended
>to denote fantasy.  Of course, by the end, its all mixed up anyway.


It was my impression that a lot of the fantasy scenes were in color
and realistic scenes usually were ones that lapsed into monochrome.
Even near the beginning.
By the way, what is monochrome vs. black-and-white?
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Barrymores
Keywords: Barrymore
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:57:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.1992Sep30.185751.30561
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>Gads, it's great to have Microsoft's new Cinemania CD-ROM right here on-line!

Don't tease me. I am still waiting for mine to show up. :-)

>As I remembered, Barrymore's health problems were due to a serious leg
>injury and arthritis.  I never heard of any problems related to substance
>abuses in relation to L. Barrymore; 

Harpo Marx talks about L. Barrymore that makes it seem like he was pretty
much a lush at the end. Considering his (Harpo's) reluctence to tell
unfavorable stories about anyone, it must have been pretty bad.

Michael

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From: gregs@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Your favorite obscure actors!
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 08:07:49 GMT

steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:

>sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:

>>     I've always been a big fan of Brion James--he was the British
>>bad guy with the knife and the ponytail in "Tango & Cash."  He's also
>>been in "Crime Wave" as one of the exterminators, "Ultimate Desires,"
>>and an episode of "Tales from the Crypt."

I think I know who you mean, and I agree.

One of the "exterminators" from Crime Wave was either the fat guy (go
ahead, take it!) or the skinny guy with the big nose (You took my
shocker!).  He looks rather like Johnson, the tall and rockin'
pitcher from the Seattle Mariners.

The other (fat) one, who slammed the glovebox door all the time, was
also in Dune, although I forget his character name.  He played the
Baron's nephew who controlled Dune before he let Sting (Feyd) take over.

Either way, both of them are on my fav B-actor list.  I think you are
probably talking about the skinny one with the big nose, though.

Sorry for the crude descriptions, but it's all I've got. 
-- 
Gregory Sumner                        ::
gregs@polari.online.com               ::               Go Dawgs! 
Seattle, Wa                           :: 3-0
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Beverly Hillbillies: The Movie!
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:08:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Oct1.183819.10347@tandon.com>, tdbear@tandon.com 
(Tom Barrett) writes:

> Does anyone know the details and can share them?  The news was
> really quite about this project... especially about who the
> cast members will be (or who was being asked).

I just know it's going to be directed by the same female director that
did _Wayne's World_.

Let's create our own dream cast, and see how close it is to the real one...

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce)
Subject: Re: My Own Private Idaho
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 07:10:18 GMT

In article <ralphh.717951071@sigyn.cs.athabascau.ca> ralphh@sigyn.cs.athabascau.ca (Ralph Hand) writes:
>
>I found the stars very attractive, and isn't that all that really counts.
>
No. 

You also need one scene involving a massive pile-up of police cars during
an extended high-speed chase. This is why, IMO, Private Idaho failed
utterly to capture the attention of America's filmgoers.

Matt

"Smiley? What Smiley?"
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Subject: Re: THX - "The Audience Is Listening"
From: bsutesch@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:03:42 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <9!-pnjf@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> merlyn@ora.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
> 
>>> Am I the only one who gets chills up and down my spine when they play
>> "The Audience Is Listening" intro?   
>>
>> We like to call that one "The Audience is Listing" because of the way we
>> all list from side to side as we listen to that. :-) 
> 
> Heh.  It's available on CD, by the way . . . I think the track is called
> "Deep Note" on the _Digital Domain_ test disc.  (In the CD version, it
> flows into a jet-airliner flyby -- talk about *dynamics* . . . )

Yeah, it's available on CD.  It's on an Asia album.
I forget the name but on the cassette it's the first
song on the second side.

later,

Brian utesch

> 
> --
> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
> 
> Nibble say "ssshhh..."
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From: mvburke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mary virginia burke)
Subject: Re: Movies with people wearing clear plastic
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:56:59 GMT

In <1992Sep30.085543.14521@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:

>In article <1992Sep29.205443.869@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.222850.38256@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY) writes:
>>> In article <70#pxrm.allyn@netcom.com>, allyn@netcom.com (allyn) writes:
>>>>I watched Bladerunner recently and loved the scene with the girl running
>>>>wearing a clear plastic raincoat.
>>>>
>>>>I am curious if any of you out there know of any other flicks with scenes
>>>>of people wearing clear plastic.
>>>>

There's also a quick one in _Time After Time_, where H.G. Wells is wandering 
the streets of San Francisco (having just traveled through time) and spots a
woman in plastic jeans.  

Practical question:  Don't garments like that tend to get fogged up?  Or did
she have to have her sweat glands cauterized?  Just wondering.

Cheers--MVB
"All right, come and get me, eunuch!!"--C. Tillinghast



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From: Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:17:26 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F646665202401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 5 Oct 92 01:22:14 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

In article <1992Oct4.222338.27290@news.nd.edu> Richard A. Swift,
Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu writes:
>>>>And where do you get they idea they are able to erase memories?  
>>> I don't know they can. I don't know they can't. The point is, on the
>>> evidence, neither you nor I know they can't.

My post referred to the suggestion that new "implants" could be used to
supersede existing knowledge. There is know doubt that memory implants
were in use---the question was whether these implants might be erased and
new information implanted.

______________________________________________________
Rich Swift    
                      Hessert Center for Aerospace Research
                              University of Notre Dame
______________________________________________________
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 30 September 1992
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:51:55 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 30
September 1992 (source: Seattle P-I, 30 September 1992). The first
dollar column lists the amount grossed in millions of dollars in the
previous weekend. The second dollar column lists the total gross
receipts in the U.S. through the end of the previous weekend.

1     THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS           $11.0 M     debut

2     SNEAKERS                             5.7     $29.4 M

3     CAPTAIN RON                          4.8      11.0

4     MR. SATURDAY NIGHT                   4.5       debut

5     SINGLES                              3.4       9.0

6     SCHOOL TIES                          2.7       6.5

7     SAFAFINA!                            2.2       debut

8     INNOCENT BLOOD                       1.9       debut

9     HUSBANDS AND WIVES                   1.8       6.4

10    HONEYMOON IN VEGAS                   1.7      30.6


-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
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From: zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: Shakes the Clown and Complex World
Organization: Brandeis University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:14:01 GMT

edwardsd@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (David Edwards) writes:

>I just rented Shakes the Clown, and besides it being incredibly funny, I
>was wondering if someone out there could answer a question for me.  What
>else has Tom Kenny (?) who played Binky the Clown been in?  I checked

I'm *almost* sure Tom Kenney was in a movie called "Complex World" -
an indie film made in Providence, RI.  The "theme" (which is secondary
to the movie) is that a terrorist organization has decided to blow up
a rock club (Lupo's?).

I think Tom Kenney was one of the people high on coke in the basement.
If not, Binky and this fellow are dead ringers.

--Pat
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From: Matt Garretson
Subject: Allen Smithee
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:34:17 GMT

Aside from DUNE (TV cut) and RUBY (1977), what films has Allen Smithee
directed? And where the hell did this pseudo-guy come from?  Is this in the FAQ?
From: cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: About Timothy Dalton?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 16:18:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <BvExJo.Dts@research.canon.oz.au> simon@research.canon.oz.au (Simon Walmsley) writes:

[What else is Timothy Dalton in?]

He was King Philip in _The Lion in Winter_, early 1970s.
From: debra@creatures.cs.vt.edu (Debra Potts)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: cartoon violence
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:08:49 GMT


Speaking of Wile E. Coyote and Road Runner, can someone tell me this?
This was one of my favorite cartoons, too, when growing up, and I am
about the biggest violence-hating pacifist you could imagine.  I mean,
I won't even watch scary or violent live action films (your kung-fu and
your die-hards and your slasher the masher XVII, etc.) because they
make me sick.

But the goofy, off-the-wall 'violence' of these simple cartoons was SOOO
outlandish that my child-mind knew it was only play, that Wile E. would
always dust himself off and sproing around for a while like a broken spring
and then go back to Acme to purchase another way to get that blasted bird.
Never ONCE did I ever think of jumping off a cliff or slamming into a rock
wall that just had a black doorway painted on it.  I think even as a kid
that would have meant I was SERIOUSLY out of touch with reality.  Only a two
year old might get that caught up in the playacting, and I'm not even going
to mention who is to blame for sitting an infant in front of a t.v. all by him-
or herself.

I'm not saying 'everything then GOOD, everything now BAD,' but I cannot
help but wonder why we, kids, didn't appear to be all that violent as a whole
back then, even with the oh-so-destructive forces of bugs bunny and road runner
to corrupt our minds, but today children OVERALL seems to have increasing
levels of agression and hostility, even though their cartoons are supposedly]
much lower in overt violence.  (But I guess that is the most important thing.
We must shield our children from the image conjured by hearing Wile E. go
crunch at the bottom of the hill, but, hey, it won't do them any harm to
watch a half hour of characters spitting hateful cliches at each other and
treating each other with absolutely no respect--just like little versions of 
those cop shows and sitcoms mom and dad take in every night!)

Perhaps it is just that we live in a more violent, hostile society overall,
and cartoons have absolutely nothing to do with it either way.  In that case,
GIVE US BACK THE ROAD RUNNER ON SATURDAY MORNING!  (and how bout Sylvester and
Tweety and Daffy and Tom & Jerry and George the Dog while you're at it?)

comments....?
From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Backtrack - Joe Pesci? 
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:59:00 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: Banzai Institute

In article <1992Sep29.152410.27421@unlv.edu>, frank@snooks.isri.unlv.edu 
   (Frank Jenkins) writes:
> I rented a movie last night that I had never heard of. It is called 
Backtrack and
> it is directed by Dennis Hopper, and stars Hopper, Jodie Foster, 
Vincent Price and
> Martin Sheen. It was a so - so movie, but worthwhile just to see Foster. 
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> It was made in 1989, and Joe Pesci also has a leading role. However, I did 
not see Pesci's name in the credits. Anyone know why?
> 

I think you answered your own question...

Rich Travsky                  Division of Information Technology
University of Wyoming         rtravsky@corral.uwyo.edu
"We tottered together upon the brink of the fall. I have some knowledge, 
however, of baritsu, or the Japanese system of wrestling...I slipped 
through his grip..."  _The Return of Sherlock Holmes_
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Help Identifying a Movie
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:56:39 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep29.183812.7813@ll.mit.edu>, wjc@ll.mit.edu 
(Bill Chiarchiaro) writes:

>   I'm trying to remember the name of a movie I saw some years ago on
> television.  I believe it was shot in the 1940s or perhaps early
> 1950s.  The story was about a pollster or market researcher who found,
> in effect, the most average town in America.  He could conduct
> research in just that town and predict responses for the entire
> country.  I think the plot revolved around preventing the townspeople
> from realizing this, because that knowledge would probably destroy
> their "averageness."

_Magic Town_ starring Jimmy Stewart.

>   Please respond via email; I don't read this group.  I will, however,
> post the responses to the group.

Ooops...too late.  But it is a good movie.

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
From: gt0963d@prism.gatech.EDU (Deeptendu Majumder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Best Intentions
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:26:31 GMT
Organization: The Dream Chasers Syndicate

Wow! what a movie..what a soundtrack..it has been a VERY
long time since I paid full price for a show. IMHO it was
worth my every penny.
-- 
------
"Like a harsh neon streaking  through the velvet darkness 
the whetted knife of Life tore its path through her Dreams"
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From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park in the movies???
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:44:53 GMT

Does anybody know what the cast is for this movie??

Thanks,
Phil
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