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From: postmaster@hactar.hactar.Sub.ORG (Kai 'wusel' Siering)
Reply-To: <wusel@hactar.hanse.de>, <@hactar.hanse.de:wusel@straylight.UUCP>
X-To: test@straylight.uucp
Subject: Re: HyperChem mailing to ATC (fwd)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:30:26 +0200
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Halloechen,

     ich habe   in   Problem   mit   meinem  UUCP-Namen  `straylight':
irgendein  [zensiert]  hat es bis immerhin zum 10. August nicht fertig
gebracht,  sein System richtig zu konfigurieren, obwohl ich wiederholt
Postmaster  auf  dem  Weg sowie Absender und vermeintlichen Empfaenger
ueber das Problem informiert habe. Zuerst mal den Header der Mail:

In <199208071321.AA21046@switzerland.acadch.com>, Gianni Leonetti wrote:

| From hactar.hanse.de!flatlin.ka.sub.org!switzerland.acadch.com!gianni Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:59:15 +0200
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|   with SMTP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/mali-1.1) for hactar
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| X-RFC822: Illegal `id' tag ("032830.22623": no '<') found at hactar.hanse.de:
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|           for katya@straylight.UUCP); Fri, 7 Aug 1992 15:21:09 +0200
| In-Reply-To: <9208070750.AA03693@straylight.nc.esc>; from "katya" at Aug 7, 92 8:50 am
| X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
| Message-Id: <199208071321.AA21046@switzerland.acadch.com>
| Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1992 15:21:07 +0200
| From: Gianni Leonetti <gianni@switzerland.acadch.com>
| To: katya <katya@straylight.mali.sub.org>
| Cc: Gianni Leonetti <gianni@switzerland.acadch.com>,
|         Anton Ryser <anton@switzerland.acadch.com>
| Subject: Re: HyperChem mailing to ATC
[...]

     Wie man  in  der `switzerland.acadch.com'-Zeile sehen kann, wurde
die  Mail  an  `straylight.uucp'  adressiert  (die `To:'-Zeile ist das
Produkt  der  smurfschen Abrechnungssoftware und daher zu ignorieren),
und  nicht an `straylight.nc.esc' wie in der `In-Reply-To:'  angegeben
(wobei  ich  mich frage, ob das eine gueltige TopLevelDomain ist?) ...
     Nun,  wie gesagt habe ich bis dato ca.  drei Hinweismails  an die
Absender und vermeintlichen Empfaenger sowie die jeweiligen postmaster
(@switzerland...   und  @straylight.nc.esc)  abgeschickt,  Erfolg  bis
jetzt gleich Null.

     Freundlicherweise hat  Matthias  mir  noch  keine  Rechnung ueber
diese  Mails  geschickt,  aber  so langsam bin ich es leid, daher: was
kann ich gegen diesen Mailterror unternehmen?

     Wenn ich  wueszte,  dasz `acadch.com' fuer jede int. Mail blechen
musz,  zoege ich 100K-Mails in 5-Minuten-Intervallen von hactar aus in
Betracht  (ja,  ich  bin  z.  Zt. etwas ungehalten =:->), aber das ist
irgendwie auch keine Loesung =:-<

     An welche  Stelle kann man sich in einem solchen Fall wenden, auf
dasz  jene  Druck  auf  die Schlafmuetzen dort ausuebt? Kann ich evtl.
mir  durch  deren Fehlkonfiguration entstandene Kosten einklagen (auch
wenn's (noch) nur Pfennigbetraege waeren (diesmal 16K in 4 Mails))?

Nein, die `Abtretung' des UUCP-Namens steht nicht zur Diskussion =:->
			kai

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