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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:38:48 GMT
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft

In article <1992Sep1.215430.7587@athena.cs.uga.edu>  
kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.143739.15864@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>  
thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
> >
> >To be quite honest, this is lousy video. The lowest resolution PC that  
I
> >use is 800x600x256, and normally I use 1024x768x256. Your specs are 
> >underwhelming at best.
> 
> To be quite honest, little IBM compatible software uses anything above 
> 640x480x256 except for GUI drivers and some graphics software.
> 

I'd hardly call a GUI driver a minimal use of higher res!

Gordon
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:31:51 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Compression/Expansion of samples
Comments: To: synth-l@auvm.american.edu

A window size of 100 samples gave much better results, but the (drum loop)
sample I was using sounded like it had been phased a bit (comb filter effects?)

Cheers,

Ross-c
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From: metlay@netcom.com (metlay)
Subject: Re: Super Jupiter/JX10 etc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:15:53 GMT
Organization: Atomic City
Summary: Junoes comma old

In article <1992Sep14.235433.29807@sal.wisc.edu> rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) writes:
>In article <svynvq+.metlay@netcom.com> metlay@netcom.com (metlay) writes:
>>
>>Any other questions?
>
>Glad you asked. (The punters are of course welcome to try their hands as well.)

Figures. Me and my big mouth. *sigh*

>Let's talk early Junos: 60, 106. I've played around with the Juno 60
>pretty extensively, but am unfamiliar with the 106. Sonically, how does
>the 106 measure up to the 60? And for that matter, how does the JX3P
>compare? I am in love with the Juno 60's sound: 8 resonant filters all
>going SSSHHHIOOOOUUUWWWWMMM, low grumbling sawtooth wave clusters, 
>smeary noisy built-in chorus in two count them two exciting varieties.
>But no MIDI. So, do the other Roland polythings come anywhere near close
>in mythic qualities so that I can avoid Neeeding this Juno-60?

Hrm. Well, if you actually got 8 resonant filters all going, ah, whatever
they were going, then I'm impressed with your programming abilities--
the Juno 60 only has SIX filters on board. |->

But I digress. Primary differences between the Juno 60 and 106 are the
DCB vs. MIDI interfacing, the number of presets (56 vs 128, I believe),
and an arpeggiator vs. no arpeggiator (the one thing they took OFF the
60, alas). Other than that, they're both one-osc (VCO, I think) machines
with chorus and suboctave to fatten things a bit. Both are favored for
one-osc "tight" bass-sequence sounds, as are the SH-101 and MC-202.

The JX3P is a two-oscillator synth with MIDI. It has only 32 RAM patches
and 32 ROM presets, and its front panel is impossible to work with, BUT
it sounds great, it becomes very easy to use if you attach a PG-200 to it
(and you get knobs rather than sliders!), it receives MIDI velocity, and
it comes in a rack version, the MKS-30 "Planet S".

>And, barring that, anyone got a MIDI->DCB box they're not using? Ack.

Good luck, dude. Thhphht.
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From: Bob.Weigel@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bob Weigel)
Subject: Which Keyboard to buy?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:45:28 GMT


   Being a WS owner....if they ever send me that replacement...it seems
as of yesterday, that they have NOT YET RECIEVED the broken one, which was
picked up about two weeks ago by call tag...ARGHHHHHHHHHH!!  (I could go on.)
Anyway, if it ever gets back, it will complete what is missing in my studio.
The machine is, in my opinion, the easiest machine for converting complex
sonic concepts into reality available.  No matter what you do with the SY
series...it's going to be just a bit weak as a solo instrument because of
the FX processor.  I heard it the first time I played it...I don't know 
exactly what it is at the hardware level, but every patch has it, and once
you've played the WS, you don't want to hear it anymore.  (The  SY-99 is
much better that other SY's, and of course much more expensive.)
	I like the quality of sounds on the JV-80.  I don't know that much
about the architecture yet, but judging by the factory sounds, I'd say it
leaves much lacking compared to the wavestation in terms of complex sound
generation.
	The WS also makes a very flexible controller, looping its out and
in to a computer sequencer, and driving a chain of modules with the MIDI
thru.  Article coming out on how to use the "MULTIMODE" feature this month
in the KORG CONNECTION this month...which should have been last month...
oh well...does anything I'm involved with happen within an order of 
magnitude of "ON TIME"! -bob
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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: cheap acid bass drum
Date: 9 Sep 1992 02:39:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:

>In article <1992Sep4.191756.21507@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) writes:
>>
>>In article <2AA7AB0C.5934@news.service.uci.edu>, dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes...
>>>	No, no, we're talking about "acid" as in "acid house", not "acid" as in
>>>LSD.
>>
>>Earth to Dan. "What, exactly, do you think that the word Acid in Acid House,
>>applies to?"

>	Duh.  Sorry.

I was lead to beleive that the term "acid" in "acid-house" comes from
a slang term for "sampling".  Comments?
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From: rlw@elan (Robert Wald)
Subject: Re: SY85 (and VFX, looking for keyboard)
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date:  5 Sep 92 05:54:00 GMT


Rather than starting a whole new article, I just wanted to
mention that I was also looking at a VFX and would
appreciate opinions on the unit. Isn't there some problem
with them that the boards corrode easily or something?
I know it was supposed to have some problems and bugs,
but was theoretically a nice unit.

I'm either looking for a simple keyboard, new or used, 
to run my TG-33 since my old Korg died. I was thinking
of the K-1 II ($5-600), but the VFX is only $745, so I might splurge
for that one. My other option is to ditch the TG-33 and
just go ahead and get an SY-85, but it might be
too much money. So if anyone has some recommendations on
equipment that would be a good and/or inexpensive velocity
sensitive 5 octave keyboard with MIDI out, or is looking
to sell one, I'd appreciate it. 

Now the old article:


The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:

>Don't you mean "I hope the waveform download capabilities of the SY-85 aren't
>as deliberately crippled as those on the SY-99"?

Well, not really :-)

>The answer is: they are. I saw one on Saturday. Sounds good, though I didn't
>hear anything earthbreaking. An awful lot cheaper than the SY-99, here in the


$1595 at Sam Ash here. Just arrived today. ANywhere in the US with a better
price?

>Personally I don't think the waveform download function is much to write home
>about, e.g. to start loading SIMMS you have to buy a board from Yamaha that

How much is it? Are you sure you need one for the 85?

What exactly does a sampling machine do, anyway? That the SY-85 + sampling
computer wouldn't? I thought I could edit waveforms on my mac or sample,
and would be able to treat them like the other waveforms in the
unit. What else does a sampler like an EPS or S-50 do?

>I can't remember the exact details of the waveform RAM crippling, but remember
>that Keyboard magazine described it in their review of the SY-99, and upon


I'm thinking of getting one next week, so if anyone
knows exactly how it is crippled, I'd like to know.





Thanks
From: GFCARDINALE@poppy.ucdavis.edu (GEOGORY F. CARDINALE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Wanted:  Info on X-oR profile for Roland D5 (is there one?)
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:45:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Does anyone know if ther is an x-oR profile for the Roland D5?
If so, where's the best place to get it?

Thanks.

Greg C.
gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu
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From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: Kawai Spectra and amp forsale
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:55:24 GMT

I have a kawai Spectra (KC-10) with the freedom cable (FC-1) all original
boxes and docs.  I would like to get $400 for all or best reasonable offer.

I also have a KB300 amp for anyone close to the Detroit area, I will deliver
it for $350 or best reasonable offer.

swood

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From: P.Holmes-Higgin@mcs.surrey.ac.uk (Paul R Holmes-Higgin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Cubase for Windows - "reserved" manual chapters??
Date: 8 Sep 92 08:18:26 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England

Does anyone have an ST manual for Cubase around?  There are several
chapters in the Windows manual that are "reserved for later use" - 
which I can only take to mean in later upgrades.  I'm assuming a close
correspondence between the manuals which doesn't seem that silly!

Chapters missing are:

22          after "The Options Menu"
25, 26      after "Key Edit"
30, 31, 32  after "Logical Edit"

Many thanks,
Paul.


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From: metro@netcom.com (John Bouvier)
Subject: Yamaha SY77 WANTED!
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 01:46:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: usa

	I am currently looking for a Yamaha SY77 (or equivalent?..),
	possibly a Korg Waveshaper. If it's between San Francisco &
	Nashville i may be able to drop by (moving to Nashville, but
	only 100% rock).

	john bouvier (415) 552-1450
From: beltran@ns.network.com (Tony R. Beltran)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Hardware Sequencers
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:07:40 GMT
Organization: Network Systems Corporation

In article <5155.295.uupcb@thcave.no> vagif.abilov@thcave.no (Vagif Abilov)  writes:
[stuff deleted]
>there is no way to access such buttons using MIDI. So the basic question is
>the following: using just MV-30 I can make everything automatic - just push
>Start/Stop key and the song will be played. Is this also true for devices
>controlled by MV-30, or I have to make some settings during the performance?
>I realize that you may not have JV-30 keyboard, but I will appreciate if you
>can share some of your experience in this area.
>
>Best regards
>
>Vagif.
>Entered Sep 7,92 at 12:29:08 on Thunderball Cave BBS from Oslo, Norway.
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>                   

The MV-30 does not do sysex of its own, but you can record sysex information
on an MV-30 track to be played back to the device that understands it later.
I am not really familiar with the JV-30.  I actually found out about the
MV-30 quite by accident (funny how these things work out).  But if the JV-30
can send sysex data, the MV-30 can record it and play it back.  The MV-30
manual has lots of information about Roland sysex implementations.

Tony
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From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: SURVEY RESULTS: What PC MIDI interface do you use?
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:15:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.052637.23516@cis.ohio-state.edu>, fontana@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
|> 
|> >Since this "survey" has no sampling validity whatsoever, what possible
|> >purpose did you think, Mark, could be served?>
|> 
|> 
|> I've been flamed by about two dozen people on this point.  I'm terribly
|> sorry for the wasted bandwidth.  Perhaps some of you could suggest ways
|> to improve things instead of simply telling me I'm a "jerk" or "sh*thead"
|> for conducting the survey as I did.
|> 
|> Net surveys are not authoritative in any way, and a lot of factors figure
|> into the results.  I had assumed most people would accept this!
|> Compared to some articles and even entire newsgroups, I don't think
|> the survey is "trash".

Hey, don't worry about it. I found your post informative, and had it been
posted before I got my card, it would have been helpful to me personally,
as well. If someone didn't like it who cares? The really funny thing is that
now, we'll get a thread that goes on for days arguing about whether you did
or did not waste bandwidth! The irony is amazing...

jds

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From: ucosmo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Comments on "Electronic Projects for Musicians?"
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:54:07 GMT

I have been considering buying a copy of this book.  I just wanted to see
if anyone has had any luck building the projects that Anderton describes.
Do they work?  Are they useable?  Can they be assembled by a computer-science
major with limited electronics skills?  Thanks,

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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:22:36 BST
From:         The Brown Bottle <ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Time compression/expansion of samples
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

>From: mussa@AU.EDU.LATROBE.LURE
>Subject: Re: Time compression/expansion of samples
>
>> In article <2741.9209111100@orsun.dcs.leeds.ac.uk>,         The Brown Bottle
><ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK> writes:
>> |> Does anyone know of a good way of performing pitch-invariant time
>compression/
>> |> expansion of samples?
>
>You dont specify what software/hardware you intend to use or obtain for this
>purose...this may well determine the method(s) available..
>
>signed
>	pedant
>

My original posting specified that I was going to write a programme to do
this. My final aim is to be able to take a sample and specify BOTH a new
pitch AND length (which might be the same as the original, but I'm not limiting
myself to just one algorithm) but final sound quality is important.

I have a collection of different suggestions about how to time expand/compress
samples, and will be trying them in the next few weeks.

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: khaberl@BBN.COM (Karl Haberl)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Some K2000 info
Keywords: K2000
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:06:07 GMT
Reply-To: khaberl@BBN.COM (Karl Haberl)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I just talked to Ken in Customer Support at Young Chang about upcoming
K2000 options. I learned a few things that may be of interest to
K2000 owners or those considering buying a K2000:

(1) There is a new list price for the sampling option: $595 !!!

    The old list price was $795. The $200 drop in list price was apparently 
    made possible by (negotiating?) lower manufacturing costs for the board.

(2) The release of the sampling option is now set for October. Packing lots
    of new features, extended DSP functions, etc. into the V2.0 SW is
    given as the reason for the slip from the original release date.

(3) For those who don't want to wait for V2.0, there will be a V1.29 OS chip
    set (available for $10) that will feature minor improvements in a number of
    areas, as well as support for the SCSI Musical Data Interchange (SMDI)
    protocol for transfer of samples over SCSI. In addition, this will
    feature support for more external drives. Also, new K2000 units with V1.29
    will ship with a new set of factory presets developed by Sweetwater Sound.
    He didn't know what the policy for distribution of this patch set to
    existing owners would be.


Karl Haberl
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From: fano@zoo1.ils.nwu.edu (Andy Fano)
Subject: How do you pick a tone generator?
Reply-To: fano@zoo1.ils.nwu.edu (Andy Fano)
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:59:36 GMT


Let me apologize in advance, because I'm sure this has been asked
before, but I looked in the FAQ list and didn't find anything
appropriate.  

I need advice about picking a rack mount tone generator.  My needs are
pretty modest, I will only be using the unit at home and my playing is
not so sophisticated that I need a massive polyphony or fancy
filtering functions. In general I'd like good reproduction of acoustic
instruments.  I have a Yamaha CLP-560 as a controller, and a Mac IIFX
to run a sequencer.

I only want to spend around $500.

First of all, what are the issues?

Synthesizers vs Samplers?  

I understand (or maybe misunderstand) there are combinations, for
example, how does the TG55 work (are some voices synthesized and
others sampled, or are they all samples, some of synthesized voices)?

Should I bother getting a unit conforming to General Midi?

What other issues are there?

What units should I consider?

I'm aware of two: Yamaha TG55 and E-mu Proteus 1.
Given that the TG55 plays samples, does that make it a "sampler"?
What's the difference between these and say the Sound Canvas, etc,?
What is the TG100?  Am I so clueless that these questions don't even
make sense?

Of course, I don't expect answers to all of this, but I thought I'd
get the ball rolling.  I've tried reading through Keyboard and
Electronic Musician, but they seem targeted to experts.

Thanks for any help you can give me,

-Andrew Fano
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Reply-To:     dunn@intellicorp.com
From:         Casey Dunn <DUNN@SAFFRON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PB100, MIDI: Well, *I'm* impressed...
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AMERICAN.EDU

You said (Re: Re: PB100, MIDI: Well, *I'm* impressed...)
>
> I actually paid more than that: I got a week-old 6/20 from a friend
> who upgraded to a 4/40+FDHD. Whole Earth Access in Bezerkley, CA seem
> to be the place to try at the moment. I have some other leads but
> they're probably stale by now.
>
ah, yes, FYI Whole Earth = 699$. thanks for the pointer!

c a s e y
From: brickle@idacrd.UUCP (Frank Brickle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Why I like the Mac for Music
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:01:01 GMT
Organization: idacrd, princeton, nj

From article <NICK.92Sep4132437@vaila.ed.ac.uk>, by nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell):
> 
> Sure, though the multimedia productions I've seen don't impress me.
> It's too easy to get tied up in the means rather than the end (like
                                      ************************* 
> what seems to happen at CyberArts conferences). This is another reason
> QuickTime doesn't interest me. When I can see a way of using it to my
> own ends, then I'll be interested.
> 

Isn't that the perennial pattern, though? All these (technical/technological)
innovations have to live through that early in their lifecycles. Then
they get stale and obsolescent. *Then* somebody *might* actually start
doing something really interesting with them...

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From: ecldco@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.C. Loyd)
Subject: Re: Make your choice
Originator: ecldco@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:05:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.093259.3302@sci.kun.nl> bartjan@cs.kun.nl (Bart-Jan Bouwers) writes:
>
>Choose from:
>
>1. Korg Wavestation (EX)
>2. Roland JV-80
>3. Yamaha SY serie (55,77)
>
>And tell me the advantages of the machine you chose (and even use!) and
>(if you can) the disadvantages of the other ones.
>I don't wanna hear anything about modules. Only the keyboard versions, please.
>Thank you for your opinions...
>
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Not to break bubbles or anything, but can anyone really tell you what you
should purchase?  I mean, don't we all want one box over another for usually
different reasons?  

Okay, now that that's out of the way, Wavestations are great, but pricey
for the amount of sound you get out of them, in my opinion.  They are,
however, easier to get momumental sounds out of than the Roland JV-80.
I've never played with Yamahas other than TX series stuff, so I don't
know about that.

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