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From: calvin@lysator.liu.se (Chris Maluszynski)
Subject: Stussy - do you people know it?
Organization: Lysator ACC at Linkoping University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:44:02 GMT

Hey folks.

I'm not sure if this is the right group for this question but...

Does anyone by any chance know anything about Stussy clothes in the US?
Here in Sweden that stuff is pretty expensive...

Judging from the posts on this group you may not know... Stussy is more street
wear- not snob wear - no offense. :)

reply by email please.

Thanks,

	-Chris
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From: hmccull@pell1l19.alleg.edu (Helen McCullough)
Subject: Re: Petite Clothes
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:21:08 GMT

In article <1ifen0INNna9@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM  
writes:
>
>I would like to get a discussion going about clothing proportions.
>I'm about 5'5" and short waisted.....My mother who is a little shorter  
>than I, preaches the benefit of wearing petite clothes...

I'm 5'3" and have spent the past two months trying to find a winter coat  
that fits. I've tried on literally hundreds of "petite" size coats ranging  
from Perry Ellis to Leslie Fay. The problem? They were all too long and  
too big. A Calvin Klein size 4 coat hit the ground and was so wide I  
looked as is I were playing dress-up in adult clothes.

In most of the stores the other customers - the ones whom the coats  
actually fit - were all well over 5'5". In some stores I found a range of  
sizes called "demi-petite." A saleslady explained that these were for  
short petites. (yes, short petites as opposed to the common tall willowy  
petite) In this size range the sleeve length was very short but the rest  
of the coat was long and wide.

I guess what I'm saying is that you should try the petite sizes - you may  
be almost tall enough to wear them.
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From: aad@world.std.com (Alexandra Aarhus-Dusenberg)
Subject: Re: Misc ...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:27:18 GMT

>>> ugly.  Who ever heard of "suntan" legs in winter or of "nude" that
>>> does not match your face tone?

In recent years it seems to have become fashionable to wear black opaque
whatevers, which to me looks odd, especially when the wearer is wearing a
short skirt and has light skin.

>an uninteresting sort of way).  Suntan panty-hose can add to the
>attraction.

Pantyhose are an abomination.  The reduced air circulation leads to dampness
and infections.

>good Christmas showing, except at Sears which failed to have a good
>Christmas even this year).

I wonder if Sears will ever realize that people can't buy things if they
can't find a cashier.



Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:53:24 -0500 
From: "Robert J. Havey" <havey+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: figure skating outfit



i need some fabric to make a figure skating outfit--black spandex with sequins.
does anyone have a clue where i could find something like this, or know of
someone who could help?  a phone # with an address would be great.  i'd
appreciate any leads.

thanks,

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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: forman@ide.com (Bonnie Forman)
Subject: Re: Petite Clothes
Organization: Interactive Development Environments, SF
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:35:27 GMT

In article <1ifen0INNna9@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>
>I would like to get a discussion going about clothing proportions.
>I'm about 5'5" and short waisted.  I've noticed when I've tried on
>desinger outfits- suits, blazer etc. from DKNY or Calvin Klein-
>the blazer fits long and the skirts or pants fits this way also.
>My mother who is a little shorter than I, preaches the benefits
>of wearing petite clothes. I on the other hand like young-modern
>styles that are prevelant in Macys JR dpt.  It seems that most of
>the petite clothes I've come across are matronly or too small for
>my med-large frame.  I have a couple of questions..

Being 5'2'', I am constantly searching out contemporary petite
clothes.  I wear a 2 or a 4, and for a long time, the only petite
clothes around were either styles my grandmother would wear, or
Daisy Mae (Lil Abners pal?).  Fortunately, times have changed, and
more and more designers are coming out with petite lines.

  Generally, petite sizes are geared towards women 5'4'' and
under, however I'll bet you can find some items that work for you.  
Here in the SF Bay Area, I find the best petite selection at Macy`s and
Nordstrom.  The best looking styles I find are from Liz Claiborne
Petites (Macy`s and Emporium have a good selection). Since I like
contemporary, and sometimes trendy clothes, I don't like to spend
a lot of money on them, so I often shop the sales.  If it's a
classic style that I know will be around for a few years, I'm
willing to spend a little more.
>
>Do most designers tailor clothes for the 5'7" long waisted women??
>Should petite frames shy away from these type of clothes?? 
>(If you tailored these items- it usually looks botched)
>Can women under 5'5" wear the long flowing gowns that are in style now??

  Let's see.  Maybe I'm wrong, but when I think of long-waisted, I think
of proportionately short legs, and short-waisted with proportionately
long legs.  Anyway, it always seemed to me that women with average or
long legs look great in long skirt lengths.  Whereas, I feel like a
midget when I wear them.

  On another note:

  Being petite, nothing bugs me like clothing that is sized "One
  Size fits All"   HA!  Although the other day I saw a label that
  said "One Size fits Most."  A definite step in the right direction.

		Bonnie
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From: 93fsg@williams.edu (Frank S. Grassia)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: test
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:29:28
Organization: Williams College. Williamstown, MA
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Just a boring old test.
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From: sherrill@ruhroh.viewlogic.com (Sherrill St. Germain)
Subject: Re: Petite Clothes
Originator: sherrill@ruhroh
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:14:30 GMT



Well, I'm 5'7" & have on several occasions bought 
Petite clothes that fit perfectly!  Some are truly
too short though.

Just my $.02.

Sherrill
From: sebri@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Doris L. Britton)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: Petite Clothes
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:47:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan7.142108.15741@pellns.alleg.edu>, hmccull@pell1l19.alleg.edu (Helen McCullough) writes...
>In article <1ifen0INNna9@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> bugsy@theoasis.Corp.Sun.COM  
>writes:
>>
>>I would like to get a discussion going about clothing proportions.
>>I'm about 5'5" and short waisted.....My mother who is a little shorter  
>>than I, preaches the benefit of wearing petite clothes...
> 
>I'm 5'3" and have spent the past two months trying to find a winter coat  
>that fits. I've tried on literally hundreds of "petite" size coats ranging  
>from Perry Ellis to Leslie Fay. The problem? They were all too long and  
>too big. A Calvin Klein size 4 coat hit the ground and was so wide I  
>looked as is I were playing dress-up in adult clothes.
  You think you have a problem - I'm 4'10 !!  Last year, I bought a black 
London Fog raincoat (size 4 petite, which was the smallest size at that 
time), and the length was just a little too longer than I want it to be.  But 
after I started wearing it, I kinda got used to it - kept my legs warm ( I'm a 
skirt and blouse person).  For Christmas I wanted a long leather jacket.  We 
went to all the big department and leather stores and their long petite
leather coats were really long (touched the back of my shoes).  I went to
Petite Sophisticate (Cleveland area) and they have a few long leather coats
that I can live with.  I bought one (LNR label, made in British Columbia) in
small and I loved it.  I received a lot of compliments.  It's a little bit long
but as I said before, it keeps my legs warm.

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> 
>In most of the stores the other customers - the ones whom the coats  
>actually fit - were all well over 5'5". In some stores I found a range of  
>sizes called "demi-petite." A saleslady explained that these were for  
>short petites. (yes, short petites as opposed to the common tall willowy  
>petite) In this size range the sleeve length was very short but the rest  
>of the coat was long and wide.
> 
>I guess what I'm saying is that you should try the petite sizes - you may  
>be almost tall enough to wear them.


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From: glenn@moeng2.morgan.edu (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: ~m
Date: 4 Jan 1993 15:23:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1993Jan4.074640.4301@fuug.fi> an2000@anon.penet.fi writes:

>My girlfriend is tall (6'0") and cannot find any stockings
>that are long enough.  

Gosh, I know _that_ problem.  (I too am 6' tall.)

>All the catalogs I've seen
>(such as Frederick's) have "one size fits all".

Hah.  We all know what _that_ means, right?


I assume that when you say "stockings", you mean stockings that
attach to a garter belt or have a band that grabs the thigh, not
pantyhose or tights, right?  At least that's how I use the word.

Though nowadays I can find tights and pantyhose that fit me, I got
used to wearing a garter belt and stockings largely because that
combination is more adjustable and therefore can be made to fit 
me.

"One size fits all" stockings will work okay if the garters on her
garter belt can be adjusted long enough and her skirt is long 
enough.  She might not be comfortable with the stocking top being
that low on her leg though, and of course if she wants to wear a 
mini fashionably, she will want longer stockings.

Here's what I do.  I haven't found a source of longer-than-average
stockings (nor have I found a source of opaque stockings, and since
I don't shave my legs, I wear opaque hose), so I buy tights and
pantyhose and using a pair of scissors transform them into stockings.
Even pantyhose that would not quite be long enough for me as pantyhose
can be converted to stockings that will fit.  (If you think a moment
about how far up stockings go you'll see why.)

Note that some tights and all pantyhose will run badly if you simply
whack the panty part off, so an extra step is needed.  Take nail
polish and paint a line all the way around each leg just below where
you're going to cut.  The cut edge may then fray and run slightly, 
but the runners will not cross the polish a fraction of an inch below.

The edge won't look quite as neat as the folded-over-and-stiched tops
of commercial stockings, but if you're careful and neat about it it
won't look bad.  (Also, the hem of her skirt can be a little closer to
the top of her stockings without showing a dark band -- you may consider
this a bug or a feature.)

Also note that some brands of tights don't need the nail polish.  I've
had good luck with Legg's Silky Opaques (have these been replaced by
Sheer Energy Opaques?  They feel like a different weave of something
but they work w/o polish too) and some Park Lane tights.

Experiment and have fun.  


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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: hojunya@ecf.toronto.edu (HO JUNYA)
Subject: Photographic records of fashion shows available?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:46:58 GMT


Is there some sort of magazine/book/whatever which has pictures of all
the designs seen at major designers' fashion shows?  Television shows
and pictures in newspapers can offer only a few snippets at best,
unfortunately...

I would be particularly interested in the 'avante-garde' (Muglier,
Gaulthier) and haute couture.
From: Fenny Frampton <fenny@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: CHARTER - alt.fashion
Keywords: charter
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 01:21:42 EST
Expires: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 23:59:00 GMT
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This group will be used for the discussion of the art and business of
fashion, including design, illustration, marketing, tailoring, consulting,
manufacturing, as well as many other fields.

This group deals with diverse topics such as design illustration,
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target markets, colour story [themes], famous designers and their
collections, fashion magazines, celebrity designs, and manufacturing
techniques & equipment (including new CAD/CAM methods), fashion modeling,
as well as any fashion-related topic that is of interest.

People are encouraged to participate if they have any interest in the
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From: craa83@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: photos
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:32:53 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

I also would like to know where i can  pictures of fashion shows 
ie calvin klien , valentino and armani.
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: andrew.delic@rose.com (andrew delic)
Subject: GREEN LEGS
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:16:50 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-05-93 18:10
TO: WAS104@psuvm.psu.edu

WU>tHE ONLY REASON I DON'T WEAR "NORMAL" NYLONS IS THAT THEY ARE PLAIN UGLY, WHO E
WU>VER HEARD OF "SUNTAN" LEGS IN WINTER,OF "NUDE" THAT DOES NOT MATCH YOUR FACE
WU>TONE????? REALLY, PLAINOLD "NORMAL" HOSE ARE HIDEOUS..

Are you referring to silk nylons?  As a male, I find them very attractive
on a nicely figured lady.  The contrast from your hands/face and legs is
quite pleasing to the eye - and makes a nice fashion statement.

Andrew.
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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Subject: Re: One-size-fits-all (was Re: Petites)
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:20:50 GMT

>  On another note:
>
>  Being petite, nothing bugs me like clothing that is sized "One
>  Size fits All"   HA!  Although the other day I saw a label that
>  said "One Size fits Most."  A definite step in the right direction.
>
>                Bonnie
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Being at the other end of spectrum (tall and broader than I'd like) I have 
to agree on the "One Size Fits All" joke.  It is very annoying to buy panty 
hose (even queen-size) and find that the crotch is down around my knees and 
the waist is somewhere in the middle of my hips and too low to stay there!

I've bot queen-size hose which had stick-thin legs and a humoungous top!  
What kind of person is built like that?

Hppily, I have been able to find some that fit.  And mostly, I don't wear 
skirts anyway so I can get away with knee-hi's.

Out-sizes of the world, UNITE! :')

--Jill

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From: scg@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kelly Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: Petite Clothes
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:15:32 GMT
Reply-To: scg@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Organization: Gender Anarchists United

forman@ide.com (Bonnie Forman) writes:

>Being petite, nothing bugs me like clothing that is sized "One Size
>fits All" HA!  Although the other day I saw a label that said "One
>Size fits Most."  A definite step in the right direction.

the same thing bugs me, but from the other end.  i'm 6'0" and a lot of
"one size fits all" stuff doesn't quite make it.  at least i can go to
big&tall stores...
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From: JNKST41@VM1.CIS.PITT.EDU (Walter Perz)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: alt.sport.bowling LIVES!
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:39:43 GMT
Organization: Smoking Research Group

In article <1993Jan5.213900.16343@worldbank.org> aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org (aki) writes:
>Huh? wha?  Whos team took first place?  Not us..in the FBL?
>
>Am I missing something?  Damn!  I GOTTA	start drinking
>soda water at parties....
>

Tuesday night league in PGH, not my FBL team.

There were only a total of 3 or 4 points separating 1st from 5th teams. (6 
teams total).  There is only about a 40 pin difference between low and high
averages, so things are usually very close.

Walter
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From: fogelinc@nmr1.Cyanamid.COM (Carl Fogelin)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: ..and...lift & turn & pivot & belch...and...l
Date: 6 Jan 1993 18:00:31 GMT
Organization: American Cyanamid Company
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In article 25312@worldbank.org, aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> () writes:

*** some stuff deleted ***

>What I'm really looking for is a ball that will break early, and
>hold it's track into the pocket.  I really don't want a radical
>break on the back end nor something that will be impossible to
>handle on dry conditions.
>

You might consider a Purple Haze Nitro.  I use to own one (it was stolen)
and found the ball to be favorable in medium conditions and it definitely
didn't have that drastic back-end break your talking about that I get with
my U-dot.  (I ended up replacing that ball with a Pearl Red Hammer because
I needed good control in drier conditions, but at times I wish I still had
the Purple Haze...)

Of course, it all depends on how it's drilled and how you throw it.  I
was in a tourniment bowling against someone with a Purle Haze.  I was using
my U-dot.  My line was drying out, so I switched to my Purple Haze.  Around
the same time, he stopped using his.  Go figure...
 
Carl
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Subject: durometer? 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:02:22 GMT
Reply-To: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Keywords: durometer

Howdy;
	I keep seeing terms like 'durometer' and 'urethane 8 - 10
hooking power', what do these mean? I know what urethane is and I'm
assuming that 8 - 10 hooking power is a measurement in boards, but by
what standard or form of test conditions. I'm also assumng that 
durometer is the softness or griping power of the ball. 
	Also is it possible to get some kind of cataluge showing
these numbers for balls on the market? 
	Rereading the first paragraph it almost looks like I'm
asking about the balls gripe(ing) power not it's grip(ing) power,
just what the world needs a bowling ball that complains along with
it's owner. Must be early yet - time for more coffee.
	
	On a unrelated note. To any and all 49er and Dolphin fans
it's going to be a fun weekend. Here's hoping for 2 good close games.

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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:35:08 EST
From: Mark K. Miller <MAX@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Happy birthday to me...happy birthday to me...
 <1993Jan7.154436.27916@europa.asd.contel.com>

In article <1993Jan7.154436.27916@europa.asd.contel.com>, king@ssvax.gte.com
(Larry King) says:
>
>aki (aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org) wrote:
>:
>:
>: Subject line sez it all folks...I now as old as I feel... :-( ....
                                                              :
                               Shouldn't this ----------------| be a
smiley face?  I'd love to be 24 again on my next birthday!  This counting
backwards stuff so you can be as old as you feel is pretty neat!  HINT: Aki,
ignore anything you feel from your right arm, that's a medical anomally.

Oh, and yes, Happy Birthday to our distinguished KOTFAQ and FBL el presidente
for life!!!!

>Happy Birthday Aki,  Maybe you will get a new bowling ball for your
>special day!!! :-)  Enjoy!!!

Get a bowling ball from who?  Maybe his proprietor should give him one,
but previous posts certainly indicate that there's no reason to expect
Lynn to be forthcoming with any new bowling equipment!
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