From: jpaul@locus.com (James Hensley)
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton quote on deadbeat dads
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, San Diego Div.
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:32:11 GMT


I tried to post this yesterday, but I didn't see it.  Sorry if you see it
twice.


In article <1992Oct14.215529.17345@exu.ericsson.se> exudnw@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>In article 1688677@locus.com, jpaul@locus.com (James Hensley) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct8.185109.17729@exu.ericsson.se> exudnw@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>>>As far as I can see, there's *no* decent choice for president this time.
>>
>>There hasn't been for 12 years.
>>
>>James
>>-- 
>>
>Why stop there? Who's the last democrat you *trusted*? Jimmy Carter?
>Lyndon Johnson?  This is the first time in decades the democratic
>party has someone that is even *nearly* mainstream and he's of shady
>character.
I have NEVER trusted a republican politician EVER.  I don't trust ANY 
politician.  I am a registered liberatarian.  I am sick of the crap this 
country has fallen into.  

As to shady, the republicans aren't?  'Most Indicted' would be a good choice 
of a name for the past 12 yr. regime.  James Watt.  Neil Bush.  Lots of
Regan's cabinet.  Look at the homeless problem.  Look at the numbers of
new millionaires.  Do you think these things correlate?  I sure do.
Here's some figures for you.  They are scary.

====================================================================
How Things Have Gone During President Bush's Term
Statistics from _Mother Jones_

National debt:  +$1,477,000,000,000 (up 57%)
Budget deficit:  +$244,500,000,000 (up 157%)
Americans unemployed for 6 months or longer:  +1,127,000 (up 133%)
Mean annual income of the wealthiest 5 percent of US families:  +$7,286
(up 5%)
Mean annual income of the poorest one-fifth:  -$54 (down .5%)
Hourly earnings for blue-collar workers:  -$1 (down 10%)
Number of millionaires:  +28,100 (up 81%)
Americans with no health insurance:  +4,600,000 (up 15%)
Families receiving Aid to Families with Dependent Children:  +944,000
(up 25%)
Median monthly payment to those families:  -$49.26 (down 12%)
Children living in poverty:  +500,000 (up 4%)
Violent crimes:  +95,278 (up 21%)
Americans in prison:  +177,122 (up 28%)
Americans on death row:  +464 (up 22%)
=============================================================

Remember Nixon tearfully resigning?  I do.  It was Unbelievebly humiliating.  
I can't think of more corrupt and dirty politicians than in the republican 
party.  (Well, maybe Alan Cranston :-) 

As for trust, Jimmy Carter would be the choice I would have to make.  
He was somewhat of a bumpkin, but he is an honest man.  Look at what 
Regan is doing.  Lecturing, selling books, and generally profiteering 
from his celebrity.  (Also collecting social security that he REALLY needs)
Yea, yea, he earned it.  He is so rich he should try to help others. Does
he?  NO.  All for himself.  (Correct me if I'm wrong, I'd love to hear it.)
Same with most republicans.  If raising my income tax $10 a month would keep 
someone employed, I AM WILLING TO MAKE THAT (sacrifice?)  Republicans: 
NO NEW TAXES! I'M GREEDY!! I WANT IT ALL FOR MYSELF!! 

How 'bout Carter?  Seems to me he's actually TRYING to help other people 
(check out habitat for humanity -- affordable low income housing -- 
an interesting fact, when hurricane andrew hit most of the houses left 
standing were these pre-fabbed ones Jimmy made.  Makes one wonder where 
builder's priorities come in ($$ in pockets, I'm afraid).  
Sorry,  I digress.

>
>The republicans have had the last 12 years in the presidency.  
And look what they've done to this country.  Granted, the cold war is over, 
but it may have been no matter who was in charge.  USSR just crumbled under its
weight and oppressiveness.  Before Regan (BR), America was the largest
creditor nation in the world.  We were owed the most money of any country.
Look at us now.  We the largest debtor nation.  We owe the most money to 
other countries.  The 'War on drugs' has failed miserably.  Crack cocaine
is cheap; NO PROGRESS has been made, unless you consider having the highest
imprisonment rate in the world (Beating South Africa and Russia); and 
kidnapping foriegn leaders from their sovriegn countries.  

> Is it their fault the democrats have nominated dweebs and loosers?  
No.  Would you not call Danny Quail(e) a loser?  A dweeb?  I sure as hell
would.  Look at some of his quotes sometimes.  They are hilarious.

> The only thing I dislike more than whiners is whiners who wrongly place 
> blame on others.  
Me too.  Who are you placing the blame on as you whine?  I have voted 
AGAINST the past regime for as long as I have been able to, has 
it affected anything? NO!

>If you dislike the republicans, elect someone else and quit whining about
>"There hasn't been for 12 years."
I tried, believe me, I tried.  3 Times.  It got nothing done.
T think this time, though, we are rid of those lying scums.


>
>Clinton's remarks about support have already convinced this NCP.  I may not 
>vote *for* anyone, but I'll vote *against* him.

My father bailed to hawaii when I was 5.  He never gave a red cent to support
me.  My mother had to work full time, come home, cook, raise me, etc.
He blew his head off when I was 18.  I didn't give a shit. 
As for voting against, I'm right with you.  Voting against bush.  
Oh, Just don't read his lips, or want an abortion, or get caught doing the 
'wrong' drugs (Alcohol and tobacco are OK, though, and I guess halcyon, too).  

I predict that before the year 2001, the FULLY STACKED conservative supreme 
court will overtuen Roe V. Wade.  As well as most of the rest of the 
sacred document we call 'the bill of rights'  (Civil Forfiture, anyone?)

It makes me sick and there's nothing I can do about it.

P.S.  Do you like the sound of 'president Quayl(e)'?
      It scares the HELL out of me.

>
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>= exudnw@exu.ericsson.se                                                =
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