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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Date: 28 Jan 1993 00:35:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
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In a previous article, ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac) says:

>
>In a previous article, lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) says:
>
>>Let me let you in on a little secret.... all politicians make lots
>>of outrageous promises during a campaign. If you voted based
>>on the promises of your candidate you are being naive. We, the
>>electorate, are to blame for this phenomenon. Politicians have
>>found, for instance, that making promises of tax cuts are


     YES!  It's time to finish the Doc off.

     Doc.  What do you think our financial system  is founded on?
        ( think carefully, here.  you're allowed to use other 
          sources.  And remember.  *I* am armed with the 

                Rod of Reality!  )

    Man, I'm sure glad I was flying on 727s all those years.




.raslithd
>-- 
>Richard Mulac                                       ck347@cleveland.freenet.edu
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>       1996 election countdown - 1378 more days         | These pontifications 
> until the Democrats are thrown out of the White House  |      are my own!     
>
From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: inaugural festivities
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:08:11 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1jma05INNsnl@tamsun.tamu.edu> fred@johnd.tamu.edu writes:
>
>Wow.  Do the Social-Democrats know how many poor and homeless their 30 million
>dollar party would have feed?  I believe these folks are insensitive.

Wow. The Republicans are starting to sound like the Democrats during the
Dark Ages. Why? Perhaps its because they had so much trouble getting campaign
funds during the '92 election that George Herbert Walker Bozo had to go
around, hat in hand, to retiring & defeated GOP members of Congress and ask
them to donate their campaign funds to the GOP.

Well, Fred can't help the way he thinks.

Dan
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
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Subject: prez slick willie....
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:17:24 GMT


	He ain't got no damn clue!  He sux!

Butt-Whole


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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Money Supply (Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:02:02 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
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In a previous article, rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) says:

>
>In article <1jq2fgINNrep@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne) writes:
>> In a previous article, rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) says:
>> 
>> >"FIFTY percent"?  Where did you get that factoid?
>> >
>> >      Money Supply Growth Rates
>> >
>> >  M2 growth (4Q/4Q)  M3 growth (4Q/4Q)
>> >  -----------------  -----------------
>> >  1988  5.2%         1988  6.4%
>> >  1989  4.8%         1989  3.6%
>> >  1990  4.0%         1990  1.7%
>> >  1991  2.8%         1991  1.2%
>> >   *    1.1%          *   -0.5%
>> 
>>       M1 growth was around 50 percent.  That tells me that, in
>>     spite of the "spirit of renewed hope" in the land, there's a 
>>     HUGE number of people who are stashing cash.
>
>In June 1992, M1 had grown 11% over the previous 12 months (Source: 
>Federal Reserve Board).  The 3 month average was 6% (indicating a 
>slowdown in the rate).

     yes, yes, of course.  I was wrong.  Besides, who's counting anymore?

       Piece Train sounding LOUDER!

>
>> >  (* 11/91-7/92) through week ended Aug 3, 1992
>> >
>> >  Source: Federal Reserve Board
>-- 
>Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
>------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
>EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
>

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From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:50:31 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.clinton
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1jmj1rINNqn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac) writes:
>
>I said they would ATTEMPT to hold a recall election.  Actually the throngs
>of angry voters will simply run Clinton and Gore out of town on a rail.
>-- 
>Richard Mulac                                       ck347@cleveland.freenet.edu

Holding a recall election, or attempting to hold one: either is a ridiculous
scenario. But granted, Limbaugh fans would probably be stupid enough to 
attempt what can't be accomplished. Why don't you lead the attempt Richard?
You seem an ideal candidate for this attempt. And as far as running anyone
out of town, is that another of your predictions? You've got these predictions
coming so often that I bet you could sell them to the National Enquirer, possibly replacing Jeanne Dixon as the chief looney of the tabloid set.

REF: The Cleveland Free Net. There has been some discussion in ba.* that 
this net is a sham and a ripoff. Anyone outside the Bay Area care to comment?

Dan
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From: matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (J. Morgan Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:54:22 GMT
Organization: Georgia State University

ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac) writes:


>In a previous article, lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) says:

>>experience, are all public record.  These cannot be fudged. Clinton's
>>record as governor is excellent, Bush's record as president is not.
>                       ?????????

> Clinton had a DISASTEROUS record in Arkansas.  Bush pointed
>it out, Perot pointed it out, but the media did a cakewalk on it.
>I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who voted for Clinton
>because of his record in Arkansas.  

Greetings. I'm from Arkansas originally, so perhaps I'm a bit better
qualified to speak of Clinton's record than some lunatic with net
access. The educational reform brought about under the Clinton 
administration was one of the main achievements, and it has served
as a model for improving education in other states. For example,
because of my fine education in Arkansas, I know that your spelling 
is DISASTROUS, not DISASTEROUS.

Clinton performed amazingly well in Arkansas, given the limited
financial resources in the state and the general bullheadedness of
the population when approached with reform. He sought out to make
positive changes in many areas, then did so. Many of the criticisms
leveled at Clinton's record are in fact criticisms of the conditions
in Arkansas that have existed since Reconstruction.

>Like I stated in another post, I don't think Clinton has a shred
>of character, but I consoled myself after the election in the
>thought that most of Clinton's campaign promises would be good
>for the country and maybe he would do a fine job.  Now after
>his blatant abandonment of those promises, he appears to be just
>another old guard Democrat who is placing top priority on implementing
>left-wing, liberal social policy and further addicting the public
>to the nipple of big government through increased spending.

My only wish is that people like you hijack the Republican Convention
again, ensuring more Democratic administrations. Rave on!

Later,
Morgan
-- 

John Morgan Morris
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
Georgia State University
University Plaza
Atlanta, GA. 30303-3083

Internet: matjmm@gsusgi1.gsu.edu
Telephone: (404) 651-2253
FAX: (404) 651-2246
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,talk.politics.misc
From: bgoffe@seq.uncwil.edu (Bill Goffe)
Subject: Re: Money Supply (Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE)
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:33:52 GMT

wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:

>Is it possible to get the same data on Internet that is availabe
>available from the Federal Reserve Banks' dial in BBSs? Also, how
>much of a lag is there on Fed data, like M!xxx M1, CPI, etc.?

Well, the Boston Fed has (or works with) an ftp site, but I understand
that it mostly has regional data. Try anonymous ftp to 
neeedc.umesbs.maine.edu.

Could you post the phone numbers for the Federal Reserve Banks'
(which one?) BBS?

Bill Goffe
bgoffe@seq.uncwil.edu
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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Date: 23 Jan 1993 01:30:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
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In a previous article, bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) says:

>Oh sure, Ron Brown only made something like 3/4 of a million last year
>so now he is taking this $144,000 a year job to make money. The only
>thing I see going wrong, seriously wrong, in this country is an
>internet full of chronic bitchers who can't offer one single
>constructive criticism, who are sore losers, and plain damn useless.
>
>REB

       Hmmm.  Another case of Post-Freebie Letdown, I'd say.

       Constructive criticism?!

       It's over, chum.  We're broke.  Soon, we're going to get
       the story about how we have to 'sacrifice' to pay for 
       congress's raises, etc.  What on EARTH could I suggest?!

       I guess I could be a Bill and say that '1+1 != 2', but 
       why bother?

       Yep, we're just useless bitchers, all right.  The sooner 
       you're rid of us, the easier it will be to make a "concensus".

         " We're not broke.
            Everything's okay now.
           We're not broke
            We rang a bell
            We're not broke 
                Government can print money
           We're not broke
    "
>
>
>
>
From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Administration of the elite!
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:02:07 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

fred@johnd.tamu.edu writes:
-Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov> () writes:
->> From: fred@johnd.tamu.edu (Fred Seals)
->> Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
->> Subject: A cabinet that looks like America
->> Date: 26 Jan 93 13:50:46 GMT
->> Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
->> Comrade WJBR Clinton promised a cabinet that looked like America.
->> So far 77 percent of the cabinet are millionares.  More than Reagan
->> or Bush.
->> 
->> There is no meaning.
->
->If these people are as qualified as they appear to be, their finances
->are irrelevant. What counts will be their performance. Meaning is in
->the eye of the beholder I guess.
-
-Let's see character does not matter, promises do not matter and finances are
-irrelevant.  We are approaching the liberal utopia.  If it feels good do it.
-If there are any consequences to your actions do not worry the responsible in
-America will provide you with some give away to take care of you.

Just adding to Fred's comments in response to Dr. LaFave:

The problem is the appearance. The assumptions that I've heard
throughout the campaign is that the rich got richer and the middle class
got the shaft from the Democrats. Bill Clinton himself said that he will
not forget the middle class. Now I don't expect him to appoint my uncle
to a Cabinet position, but I at least feel that Clinton's coincidental
appointments of millionaires strikes a dissonant chord to:

"And so, in the name of all the people who do the work, pay the
taxes, raise the kids and play by the rules--the hard-working Americans
who make up our forgotten middle class, I accept your nomination for the
presidency of the US of America."

This is the same person who criticized Bush for being too (my words)
soft on the rich and not approving a middle-class tax cut because it was
coupled with a tax increase on the rich. After portraying Bush as
sympathetic to the rich and elite, and painting himself as the "common
man," in touch with America, the constitution of his Cabinet smacks with
a bit of irony.

Meaning is in the eye of the beholder and the person portraying the
image.
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	BSE in BME in 1993
"You just can't promise something like that just to get elected if you
 know there's a good chance that circumstances may overtake you."
	- Bill Clinton, East Lansing MI debate, Mon Oct 19 1992
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From: johnch@test22.sun.com (Slam the Crank from Wheezer)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: God is intolerant of sin!
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:44:53
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In-reply-to: symanzik@pigeon.egr.msu.edu's message of 15 Jan 93 16:21:08 GMT

In article <1j6o9kINNnq4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> symanzik@pigeon.egr.msu.edu (Edward Symanzik) writes:

   In article <14JAN199315013567@zeus.tamu.edu>, rlc1028@zeus.tamu.edu writes:
   |> In article <1993Jan11.175141.6461@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>, krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes...
   |> |In article <C0Lvun.LAI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> smithmc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Lost Boy) writes:
   |> | 
   |> |>QUestion for the day:
   |> |>If Jesus were alive today, would he be anti- or pro-gay-rights?  

   He would probably quote from Romans 1.  Here are some excerpts:

   001:026 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even
	   their women did change the natural use into that which is
	   against nature:

   001:027 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the
	   woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men
	   working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves
	   that recompence of their error which was meet.

   001:032 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such
	   things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have
	   pleasure in them that do them.

Do wandering savages in the desert 2000 years ago and what they wrote
in their crazed and malnourished state have a lot to say to us under
totally different if no less intense conditions?  I think it's up to
*us* to judge, not up to them.

-- JC
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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: DAY TWO: MORE LIES
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:10:23 GMT
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In article <1993Jan22.173509.17751@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> bermes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Terry Bermes) writes:
>From article <1jnvtoINN2tq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, by ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard A. Mulac):

>> By the way, let's all cry BOO HOO HOO for poor Zoe.  Things aren't 
>> going well for her.  It seems strange that a President who claims that
>> 'friends are the most important thing you can have in life' doesn't
>> treat his very well.  He hid all day in the White House playing tour
>> guide instead of publically supporting her.  And a hint for George

>	And if he made any attempt to publically support her, you
>can be damn sure that the Republinistas would have been all over
>him for that.  Willie can't win on this one.

Of course.  His mistake was nominating her in the first place.  Slick
decided he needed a woman.  He found the best on he could.  And she
turned out to be a rotten tomato.

The only question left after the public found out about Zoe's little
peccadillos was how he was going to lose on this one.
-- 
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From: ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu (Richard Eldon Barber)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Bill's Compuserve Address
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:33:43 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

HaHaHa.
75300.3115@compuserve.com
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From: lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Administration of the elite!
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:07:44 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
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In article <2652@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Paul S Galvanek, psg+@pitt.edu writes:
> Not that it has any real meaning other than symbolism, but I heard on
> the radio this morning as I drove to work that it's official; The
> Clinton administration contains more millionaires than any other 
> administration in history.

You're right...it has no meaning.

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
                               Hunter Thompson
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton
From: S1.JSS@isumvs.iastate.edu (isbon)
Subject: Re: PEACE: To whom it may concern
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:49:41 GMT

Help.

I need some Clinton/Bush anecdotes appropriate for a Democratic
inaugural party that my county party is holding this coming Friday.

If you have any "roast" like jokes to share please email them to me.

Jeff
s1.jss@isumvs.iastate.edu
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From: kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian)
Subject: Re: Money Supply (Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE)
Organization: Pitzer College
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:59:27 GMT

In article <2594@blue.cis.pitt.edu> wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:

>Is it possible to get the same data on Internet that is availabe
>available from the Federal Reserve Banks' dial in BBSs? Also, how
>much of a lag is there on Fed data, like M!xxx M1, CPI, etc.?

I got this data through a GOPHER site at U. Michigan, but it can also be 
obtained by anonymous ftp to una.hh.lib.umich.edu, in the /bin directory.  I 
suggest reading the README file first.  They seem to post it up pretty 
fast;  as I mentioned in an earlier post, the text of an unemployment 
release on Friday morning was there for me by 2pm EST Friday.

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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:53:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
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In a previous article, rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson) says:

>
>Just so their is no confusion (I assume your refering to me), I support
>Clinton but think Zoe Baird should step down because her answers in the
>confirmation hearings (generally) made me sick.  She knowingly violated
>the law & now wants to be in charge of enforcing those same laws.
>Clinton can find a better nominee (assuming, of course, that not all
>lawyers are corrupt).


      Yes, I realize you support Clinton.  I found your "Zoe 
   should step down " post amazingly funny.

 
k>
>As for Clinton's alleged broken promises, it seems that most of the 
>criticism is coming from those that opposed what he promised.  They 
>criticized him when he made the promises, they criticise him now, and
>they'll criticise him when he keeps his promises.


      Alleged?!  Oh, man.  I'd LIKE to take this to a court of law.
      SURELY there is enough evidence by now.  


      My girlfriend had this great idea during the campaign.
      A doll, you know, those kind that you can turn upside down
      and they have another face?  Well, she wanted to put 
      Clinton on one end, Bush on the other.

      I'm thinking that it might be a real money maker now that
      the election is over.   hehehe.  

      " A vote for Clinton is a vote for Bush! ".  hehehe.

>
>The public (generally) cares about the results.  "The economy, stupid."
>If the economy keeps growing, unemployment goes down, Clinton will
>be fine (and re-elected) regardless of his campaign promises.  If the
>economy sucks, people won't care if Clinton keeps all his promises.
>
>Anyone notice the bond rally?  Yields on 30-year bonds are down to 7.3%.
>That says that the market believes that inflation will remain low and
>are willing to back that belief with their money.


       Of course.  We're clearly entering a world depression.
       The money supply grew by FIFTY percent in 1992.  Personally,
   I figure Clinton is between an immovable object and an irresistable
   force.  

       I find the phrase "renewed hope" truly heart-breaking.


       Like, ah, if we party and play saxophone, 1 + 1 won't equal
   2, and we won't have to pay.

>
>-- 
>Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
>------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
>EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
>
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: TRANSCRIPT OF CLINTON'S INAUGURATION SPEECH??
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:13:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.224955.16198@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.210648.5292@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>>
>>Interesting speech, but didn't he forget the line that goes
>>
>>'Today America, tommorrow the world'  ?
>>
>>:-)
>
>Ah, but Simon, these are LAME jokes....

Just saving the good jokes until later..

:-)

Simon

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