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From: LPHILLIP@MSAC.MTSAC.EDU (Lynda Phillips)
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Subject: Re: Some travel humour
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:41:42 GMT
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> Date:          Wed, 14 Oct 92 14:04:33 EDT
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> Subject:       Re: Some travel humour
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>
> What is this Travel Humor?  If I missed something, please send me a copy.
>       I'm at v2153a@templevm.
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> Thanks.
>
>

I just joined this group.  So I know I missed the Travel Humor.  If
and when you get a copy could you send me a copy also.  I'm at
MSAC.MTSAC.EDU

Thanks.

Lynda
From: AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET (Aaron M. Gold)
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Date: 13 Oct 92 16:41:37 GMT
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  Thanks for all the replys, keep 'em coming!  I have little time now but
later on I will attempt to dgest more of what you have told me and get
back to you either on the list or in mail.

  I remember someone talking about the Interrail pass being eliminated,
I didn't realize that was the same thing as the Eurail pass.  I can't
believe they are going to get rid of it!!!  At least I'll be in Europe
in 1993 before it goes by the wayside.

  So a lot of you seem to think getting as far down as Rome is a bit ambi-
tious, or that I might not find that much in Italy in August?  I wanted
to see just a few key cities, and perhaps spend a few days in each (Paris,
of course, also Venice, Rome, Vienna).  Right now I am reading about a
gentleman who traveled the English coast by train or foot, but I would like
to see more than one country.

  More, more.  Feed me, feed me!

  (Speaking of which, it's time for lunch.  Chicken sandwiches at the
Brockway Dining Hall here at lovely SUNY Brockport.  Yum yum!  Pass the
mayo.)

  -- Aaron
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From:         James A Schaefer <JAS@RICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Travel
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It has been 16 years (1976) since I travelled for 3 months via rail and
stayed in hostels.  I enjoyed nearly every minute of it and didn't want to
come home!

I would say that trying to see Paris, Rome, Switzerland, etc in the month
of August is too ambitious.  Perhaps 1 week in Paris, swing down through
Nice for 3 days, Rome, Piza, Venice = 10 days to 2 weeks, and maybe a
very short stay in one Swiss o//location on the return to Paris and London.
Dont' rush, "go with the flos//w".  My two bibles were the Harvard "Let's
Go Europe" (not overrated), and a Thomas Cooke rail time table.(great for
reference and hell//helping other travellers and starting conversations).
Next attempt will be with children and a wife that//who's not keen on travellin
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 92 03:29:14 TUR
From:         "Aaron M. Gold" <AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET>
Subject:      Help.
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

  Hello all!

  I know this is not the proper place for this message, but I don't know
where else to put it, and at least here I know I'll reach the audience I'm
looking for.   I'll keep it short.

  If someone from the UK who is up on current events could contact me, I would
appreciate it.  For a small-group discussion class, I need details on a news
story that recently unfolded there - about a gentleman who was pardoned after
being executed in London (?) some time ago.

  If anyone knows details or would get them and could contact me this week,
I would really appreciate it.  Thanks!

  Again, sorry to clog up the list.  =)

  Aaron Gold
  AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET
  (or whatever appropriate address you find above)
From: BRICKEYJ@VTVM1.BITNET (Jean)
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Subject: Re: Berlin --> Poland
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:33:41 GMT
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I don't know about the companies you would rent from, but they do
rent cars.  Going from Belin to Poland will take about four to five hours.
There is no way you can drive real fast on the highway you take.  It is the
highway Hitler build to the Baltic and it needs reparing.  You may spend a
biat of time at the border depending on which day you go.  If you want to
stay in at least one real nice hotel there is a beatiful hotel in
Miedzyzdroje Poland called Amber on the Baltic.  It is right on the Baltic
sea and is really nice.  You will find the people in Poland very nice and
real helpful.

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From:         POSTMASTER@DUKEMC.BITNET
Subject:      Room Sharing for CDC'92
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------


Room Sharing for CDC'92
=======================

Looking for a male roomate to share a double room  for the IEEE Conference on
Decision and Control 1992 (CDC '92) to be help at the Westin La Paloma,
Tucson, Arizona, U.S.A, in December.
Anyone interested please reply by email.

Vasnani Vinod U
engp2055@nusunix1.nus.sg
PhD candidate
Department of Electrical Engineering
National University of Singapore
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 92 08:32:00 EDT
From:         HORVATH@DAEMON.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Europe,Under 26 rail travel
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BritRail has something--I've got all my stuff at home from them, so can't give
you anything concrete right now, but give your local BritRail Office a buz.  If
that's not practical, "buz" me and I'll find my info.

Life is too....oh, never mind.
From: BENNETMM@SNYCENVM.BITNET (MAUREEN BENNETT)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l
Subject: Re: Ski Utah
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:57:53 GMT
Organization: State University of New York - Central Administration
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Lisa -

   It has been probably 5 years since skiing in Utah, so my info is a bit
old.  Pick up any ski magazine and in all likelihood there will be an
advertisement for Utah with a post-paid return card.

   If you are interested in saving money ski at the less famous resorts in
the area. The ones in the Park City area are expensive; $38.00 a day back then.

   Alta had $15 lift tickets.  Solitude, Brighton and another which I can't
remember were $8.00 mid-week and had a combination pass for the 3 places.

  Alta was a great area, and I was there in April.  The others were O.K.
but not as extensive, more like the smaller Eastern ski areas.

  Food was reasonable but its Mormon country so there is limited access to
alcoholic beverages.

   When there, our Hotel was in Park City, the Raddison, paid for by my
husband's employer since his stay over a Saturday night saved them $500.
They paid for the rental also so I can't help you there.

Have fun and good luck!

Maureen Bennett
SUNY Central Administration
From: AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET (Aaron M. Gold)
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Date: 16 Oct 92 16:00:50 GMT
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  Hilde -

  On your recommendation (was it yours?) I picked up this book (along with an
armful of books on European travel, and this book (Oh, I'm sorry - Europe
Through the Back Door) was teh first one that I read.  In fact, I read Part
1 all the way through, and I am about to start on part II (th3e section on
specific Back Doors).

  You were right - this book is EXCELLENT! It provides plenty of useful infor-
mation without giving away all of the suprises, and it's a VERY funny book,
too!  I had to keep reading passages out loud to my roomate, who wanted to
know why I was laughing so much.  I have other books to delve into (including
Let's Go: Europe), but this book has given me many ideas on a possible
itinerary (sp).  I would HIGHLY recommend this one to anyone traveling in
Europe, or even thinking about it.  Heck, even an armchair traveller should
pick up a copy.  My local library had the '92 edition on the shelf.

  Thanks again for an excellent recommendation.

  -- Aaron
     State University of New York, College at Brockport
     AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET

  PS Rick Steves apparently sends out the Back Door Newsletter to anyone who
corresponds.  I will, and I'll tell you folks what IU think of the newsletter.
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From:         MOHD@PSY.GLASGOW.AC.UK
Subject:      Europe,Under 26 rail travel
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Hi,
Bad news for young travellers.The article below was printed in today's
newspaper called the Guardian, here in the U.K.

INTER RAIL REPRIEVE
Europe's railways have agreed to keep the Inter Rail youth budget
travel card going for another year,the Community of European Railways
said yesterday. But the card, which allows people under 26 unlimited
travel across 25 countries for a flat fee, is unlikely to be
maintained after 1993.---Reuter.


I'm unsure if this mail is being recieved on the list. So can someone
please respond to this.Thanks!

                      Asgher.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 92 16:43:04 EDT
From:         PEDRO GODOY <PGODOY@UJCCOL.BITNET>
Subject:      PUERTO RICO
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The best disco in Puerto Rico is LEVEL's, The San Juan Casino is a good
place. The Condado Plaza Hotel is another place for dance.
Pedro Godoy
Javeriana University at Cali
Colombia - South America
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From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Subject: passports
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: bit
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:55:12 EST

If you are planning to travel internationally, apply for your passport
without delay, so that you will have it in plenty of time before your
trip, even if there are problems with your application.

If you are planning to travel extensively, you should ask about a 
so-called "businessman's" passport,. which has twice the usual 
number of pages.
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: MFRY@BROOK.BITNET (Mary Fry, Acquisitions Librarian)
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Subject: Re: US Food
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:19:36 GMT
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I agree that the best restaurant food can be found at the family owned
operations, especially those in the small towns.  Much of the food at the
popular chains i.e. TGIF Fridays, Benigans, etc. is frozen and pretty much
tasteless IMHO.  One thing you notice in Europe is that the grocery stores
are much smaller and contain much less convenience foods.  Also people shop
for fresh food almost every day while people in America load up on frozen
foods about once a week. At least I do.

Mary Fry
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Subject: Berlin --> Poland
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:01:45 GMT
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I am going to fly from USA to Berlin this X-mas season and would like
to continue from there to Poland for 2-3 weeks, or so.
I would prefer to rent a car in Berlin.
Questions:
- is that possible? I mean, do they rent cars for trips to Poland and
  former Eastern Europe in general?
- what is a good and cheap rental company which you would recommend?
Many thanks
Mikolaj Sawicki
From: A000@FERRIS.BITNET (Trevor C Poole)
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Subject: Re: US Travel Advisories?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:10:08 GMT
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> I just met someone visiting here from Belgium. I asked him if everything
> was going ok with his travel. He said that everything was fine except for
> the food. "What do you mean ?" I asked him. He pointed out that there was
> an overemphasis on frozen/processed food here and that potatoes, bread, etc.
> were of poor quality here. I was amazed since I always thought that our
> food here was pretty decent. Any comments ? He did say that he liked the
> Jack Daniels stuff here (sure) !
>
If he ate the taters and chewed the bread and forgot the Jack Daniels
he would like the food a whole lot more !
Isn't horse meat a speciality in Belgium ?
Trev
From: AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET (Aaron M. Gold)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 22:35:52 GMT
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  Attention: Hans Stiener

  > a good mosquito repellant

  Ever consider a flame thrower?  That'll repell them in a hurry.

  :-)
From: rital@dhhalden.no (RITA LARSEN)
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Subject: Tickets for Paris
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:28:47 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College


Hallo!

Anyone outthere... Do anyone know where to get cheap tickets to Paris from 
Oslo, Norway??????  I am going there in December.

From   Rita Larsen

rital@sofus.dhhalden.no
From: AA741CN@TCUAMUS.BITNET (AA741CN)
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Subject: Ski Utah
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:10:51 GMT
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   For the past 4 or 5 winters we have gone skiing in Park City,
Utah for a number of reasons. It is merely 45 minutes from
Salt Lake Airport, not the many hour drive to resorts outside of
Denver.

   There are four major ski resorts within minutes of Park City
thus avoiding long drives once you arrive in town. All the
ski places have miles of easy to expert trails so don't worry
about intermediate areas..there are plenty.

   The other main attraction is that despite all these good
reasons to be there, we rarely have to wait in a lift line
more than a few minutes...the crowds just aren;t there, even
at the busiest seasons. Lots of places in town to eat..send
a note if you decide to go there and I'll EMAIL you places to
eat, visit, etc.....

John
TCU
Ft. Worth, TX
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tell listserv at trearn sub travel-l sandie thompson
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 92 13:29:11 +0100
From:         dacier@LAAS.LAAS.FR
Subject:      Re: Holiday in France
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At 12:41 16/10/92 +0000, UKJW@DKAUNI2.BITNET wrote:

>Anyone out there who knows how to get cheap holiday in France
>somewhere on the atlantic or on the channel? (How to get there is
>no problem, just where to live (2 person).)
>I am going there in Dec/Jan.

Do you really want to go a these specific places in Dec/Jan ?
I hope that you do not intend to swim at that time ..  :-)
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From: BAUER@RCKHRST1.BITNET (GEORGE BAUER)
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Subject: Re: US Travel Advisories?
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I agree about the comment that American bread is terrible.

AFter spending a year in central Europe, there is no question in my mind
that European bread is excellent, where American bread is full of air
and chemicals.

An occasional good loaf of bread costss $1.50 and up, which I can't afford
very often.


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Subject:      Re: Some travel humour
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Thank you, thank you, thank you--I needed that!
From: ASINHA@UGA.BITNET (Anuj K. Sinha)
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Subject: Re: US Food
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:42:59 GMT
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Lloyd's remarks are well taken. He does "not" eat at McDonald's type
of places but prepares food himself. In fact I recommended that he go
to a Farmers Market in Atlanta where he could find all kinds of fresh
foodstuff including french bread and all varieties of potatoes and
he will.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 92 08:29:26 EDT
From:         Lucy Rowland <LROWLAND@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Travel
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That many countries and that far south on the Boot is pretty ambitious
for 1 month. Two observations: the trains will be PACKED by students
in summer and you might not always be able to get a seat (stand in
the aisle) or even get on. Also, (although I have never traveled in
Europe in August) I understand that Italy shuts down in August and
everyone goes on vacation. That may not be true in places like Rome
but it might make it harder to stay in the more picturesque small towns.

I could spend the entire month in Austria. Remember that Salzburg and
Vienna will have music festivals all summer. Germany is bigger than
you think (we Americans--and I include Canadians--visualize Europe as
something the size of New England. Not so.), and expensive. On the other
hand, if you train at night (you don't see anything, but you don't pay
for a room either; you won't sleep much), you will have your days to
see the sights. I've known people who would do a city a day for about
3 days that way, then find a room to stay the night and clean up.

Have a good trip.
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Full-Name: Jose Pinto
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 92 19:15:31 -0400
From:         Jose Pinto <pinto@GCH.ULAVAL.CA>
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I believe that all the work involved in list keeping is not
as easy as it seems to be.

Problems that we could never think of may also arrive unexpectedly. And
sometimes it takes time for us to realize!

Maybe that is the case for the messages that I believe everyone in this
list is getting with an extra copy.

Can you tell me whether this is very complicated to settle?

Regards.

--jhqp
pinto@gch.ulaval.ca
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From: krys@dgim.doc.ca (Krystian Wirski)
Subject: Re: Berlin --> Poland
Reply-To: krys@dgim.doc.ca
Organization: Communications Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:11:56 GMT

Why not start in Brussels?  For three years in a row now, I have been making
use of a PURCHASE/REPURCHASE (ACHAT/RACHAT) scheme from RENAULT.  In the summer of 1990, I was in Europe six weeks, and visited Belgium, West-Germany,
East-Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Austria, Switzerland, Italy,
France and Luxembourg.  In the spring of 1991, I was in Europe one month, and
visited Belgium, Germany, Czechoslovakia and Poland.  Last June, I was in
Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Germany, Poland and
Holland.

As far as the customer is concerned, Purchase/Repurchase is nothing other than a tax-free car rental.  Here is how the scheme works in the case of Renault.  Through your travel agent, or directly from Renault, you purchase
a brand new car.  Renault, for its part, immediately undertakes to buy the car back from you after a specified period of time, say 23, 30, 40 days, whatever, at a specified price.  What YOU pay, is  essentially the difference between the price of the new car and the one at which Renault undertakes to
repurchase it, plus all manner of insurance.  You get the car at the Brussels
airport, and it is there that you return it.  For some models, you may be
required to have the car inspected by an authorized Renault service shop
after a specified number of kilometres, and pay for it out of your own pocket.  My 1990 car had to be checked before the first 3000 km were up, and I had it done in Warsaw, in a matter of two hours, for peanuts.

I understand that somebody offers a similar scheme in Paris, except that
there the airport pick-up is not available, and the airport drop-off costs
around $60.

                                         Have a nice trip 


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