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From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:40:48 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <Aug.16.16.47.36.1992.5410@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:


>	Bikes with more rake and trail will steer more slowly.  You
>appear to know this, yet your bike has (I presume) still not studied
>any physics.  Countersteering is not affected by a final shaft drive.
>As someone recently noted, if it were the shaft drive cancelling the
>steering effect of countersteering, it would work for one steering
>direction and not the other.  

That isn't clear. It seems the shaft would cancel the steering forces
in one direction while aiding the steering forces in the other.

>	More importantly, if countersteering does not work on your
>bike, you cannot steer. 

   Interesting. David Fenstemaker once described the technique of
"kneeing" his motorcycle, learned from Reg Pridmore of CLASS. Fenstemaker
explains that you simply need to push on the gas tank with your knee to
make the bike steer. This doesn't sound like counter-steering at all.

>Whether you directly countersteer or
>indirectly, all steering is ultimately done by countersteering.  I
>quote from Code's 'A Twist of the Wrist':
>
>	Countersteering is the only way you can direct a motorcycle to
>steer accurately.  This is, in fact, how you've been steering your
>motorcycle all the time, whether you knew it or not.  You cannot steer
>a motorcycle simply by leaning it.  You can get it to veer off in
>either direction by leaning your weight off to one side at low speeds,
>but that isn't steering.

I've been to the California Superbike School twice, and Keith never
exactly said *that*. I must admit I was a little surprised when Keith
suggested that using an "e-meter" would improve my cornering times.
Does anyone know what an "e-meter" is? Do you mount it on your handlebars?
Will it work if mounted to clip-ons?

  Hmmm.....

-- 
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
 * (213) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
 * dana@locus.com  DoD #466 	| reflect those of my employer	*
 * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the shot!"   *
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RESULT: rec.motorcycles.harley passes 362:47
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:57:54 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Wednesday August 19 1992 11:45, Konrad Weigl wrote to All:

 KW> "H*m*lt*n J., accused of driving a K*w*s*k* in full daylight, and
 KW> in full view of minors (Gasps sweep through the shocked audience),
 KW> and accused of seducing aforementioned minors into common riding of
 KW> four-cylinders (Minor commotion in the back as a few fainting
 KW> women (^B^B^B^B^B^B^Beh, hm, people ->Hi Laurie!!) are discreetly
 KW> carried out of the courtroom), you are herewith pronounced guilty,
 KW> and condemned to read rec.mot.harley, until death shall
 KW> relieve you..."

Nay! Nay! Saith not that upon my trembling soul! Nay!

Oh, ok, for penance, I will lurk henceforth in r.m.h. and keep my lousy
fingers still upon the keyboard but to turn the page, as it were. Fit
punishment for a rider in full daylight of a Kill-a-shocki in front of
minors. Verily, I am repentant.

P.S. If a J. Hamilton voted no in the vote, s/he was either an impostor,
or the post of a no vote did not originate from my machine, as one may
easily assertain. :-)

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
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DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
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From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Triumphs...
Keywords: newbie questions
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: World
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:49:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.132437.21481@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> paulh@coos.dartmouth.edu (Paul Haban) writes:
>... as someone will probably complain about
>clueless newbies sucking up bandwidth...
>

It is no worse than clueless oldies sucking up bandwidth ...



--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Helmets and Motorcycle Fatalities
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:19:31 GMT

egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>In article 20738@ohrd.uucp, ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:

>>pickup-truck-driving, 

>Hey, watch it!

Get a bike Ed!

I've got an excuse for driving a pickup truck, I've got a dirt bike and
a Quadracer. Now I need a Ducati, and I'll have all the bases covered.

So Ed, howcome you're driving a pickup when you don't have a bike to go
in the back? :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:20:18 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <moseley.58.714417019@u.washington.edu> moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
> keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller) writes:
>
>>        Does anyone else have trouble using peripheral (sp?) vision to avoid
>>objects/potholes on the road? I've found that I have to first look at it and
...
>This is my biggest problem in riding really fast. There is no question that 
>when I look through the turn, keeping my head level, I can really lean to 
>the bike's capacity. The problem is, I keep looking down for gravel/oil/dead 
>possums/whatever. I just can't seem to judge the surface while looking 
>ahead, and when I look down, my line goes to hell.

2 comments:  1)  If you're looking down while going "really fast", you
		won't have time to steer around any obstacles.
             2)  If there are obstacles that are difficult to avoid, is
		this really the right road on which to be going "really fast"?
			( :') for the "yes, mother" impaired)

If you're already looking into the turn and visualizing your line, just
visualize a modified line that avoids the obstacle.  Of course, you must
also know the extent of your vehicle.  Best thing I can suggest for
that is practice.  One of the school bus drivers at my high school
described a yearly competition held by her company.  One of the events
involved a line of tennis balls.  The object was to back the bus along the
line of tennis balls, using only mirrors, and straddle the line with 
the rear dual tires.  If any of the balls was pushed out of line, points
were deducted.  She said typically 10% of the drivers got through it
without losing any points.  Now _that_ is awareness of your vehicle.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
George Bush claims to have neglected domestic issues in favor of foreign policy.
    Looking at Iraqi civilians, I'm glad we didn't have his full attention.
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Is this rec.moto, or rec.post.whatever.drivel.comes.to.mind ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:28:38 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Distribution: world
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 5541@transfer.stratus.com, cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson) writes:
>
>Am I the only one tired of seeing 10 relevant, and 290 irrelevant posts
>each day ?

No.

(oops...)

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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
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 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
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From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Paint and Rust, Rust and Paint
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:02:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Summary: how
Keywords: paint rust

My GoldWing uh, got more exposure to the elements than was good for
it.  It's got some rust spots on the chrome - what's the best way to
clean those?  (I downloaded the FAQ but all the articles were
truncated - a problem of this site?).

Also, there seems to be some rust in the tank - which is under the
seat and a pain to get to.  Suggestions?  

Plus, does anyone have a step-by-step list of how to go about painting
the thing?  All the paintable parts can be removed (cycle will even
run without them.)  Directions on cleaning off the decals?

[It's a '77 1000cc GoldWing, originally red.  It now has no fairing,
no trunk, and no bags.  26K miles.]

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com
They who give have all things; they who withhold have nothing.  
                      -- Hindu proverb
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Driving not riding
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:04:25 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
: in article <5568@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
: >That may be the custom in a lot of places, but it isn't the way it is supposed
: >to be.
: 
: Ah, another poor soul who's confused what the drivers manual says with 
: what works in the real world...
:
  Ah, another poor soul who's misunderstood what I said.  I *know* what
it's like to drive in congested areas.  I learned how to drive in Northern
New Jersey.  I can slice and dice with the worst of them when comes to it.
But, your original response sounded to me like you were confusing common-sense
practice with what the *law* is. 
  
: I do spend a lot more time in the right hand lane now that I live in New 
: Hampshire (where the chances of meeting a car coming up the entrance ramp 
: are relatively small), but back when I learned how to drive in New Haven CT,
: _everyone_, from a state police officer I knew to the drivers ed people,
: to van drivers who drove for a living, they all said that you should ride 
: in the middle lane.  The right hand lane is the most dangerous lane on the 
: highway (so I'm told, I do _not_ have references).
:
   Well, I have to agree that in the circumstances you describe here that
center lane to travel, right lane to enter/exit, and left lane to pass is
the best *practical* rule.  The real rules aren't realistic :-).
 
: In that area of the country (Hartford -> New Haven -> Bridgeport -> New York)
: there is usually a pretty steady stream of traffic coming up the ramps, and 
: the entrances are pretty close together (almost never more than a few miles 
: apart).
: 
: I suspect that one's preference for a lane depends on what type of limited 
: access highway one is used to travelling on.  Those of us in congested New 
: England probably have different techniques from the folks in less populated 
: areas.  
: 
: I'll grant that the original poster (complaining about people who drove in 
: the middle lane) might have had a valid complaint given where he's driving, 
: but in lower New England I'll take the middle lane every time, and I won't 
: feel bad about doing it, no matter what the manual says. 

In the parts of Virginia that I now inhabit there are very few 6-lane (3 each way)
highways, so the old keep right except to pass is the way to go.  I-81 is 2-lanes
each way.  I stay right when I'm not passing people (which means I'm in the left lane
a *lot*). 
--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:32:43 GMT

Screw this "Follow the guy home stuff"

The way to find out this guy's address is to 
go down to the DMV and ask for it or write them
a letter.  I don't think you can just call.  I also
don't know if they can ask you why you need it.

Then drive you cage over to his house and burn
it down so that you don't make bikers look bad.

Jack Waters II
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ Make no Mistake, I am the Red Fishnet          ~
~                                DoD#1919        ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Photo Radar
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:20:32 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

In article <10482@wrgate.wr.tek.com> davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)  
writes:
> In article <14149@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu  
(Mark Parsons) writes:
> >
> >Someone told me once that the spokes/'ribs' in your front wheel
> >will cause headaches for the radar gun because it 'kicks' back
> >the rays at different speeds . . . . ?????
> >
>    Motorcycles are generally poor radar targets because of their small
> cross section.  

I've seen this posted here more than once, and although they may be "poor"
targets, they are targets just the same. Having several friends who have gotten
tickets on bikes (all radar clocked) over the years, let me assure you that
a bike is no Stealth fighter or SR-71. Hell, ever go to a county fair where
they time softball throws with a radar gun? A softball would seem to be a much
"poorer" target than a bike, let alone a car or truck and yet the gun has
no problem picking up the tiny 6" sphere. Even your helmet alone is a good 12"
(semi) sphere. 

Just my $.02 . . .

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
DOD #810
1992 FJ1200ABS
From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: DUCATIs
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:35:31 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

Hi there,

I am currently mulling over buying a Ducati 600 (Pantah engine in TL mode)
...its B Reg (12000 miles), and they are asking #1850, .
Apart from the obvious (cycle parts, general condition etc),
is there anything I should look out for...

any Help appreciated before i commit my pennies

Email to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
                                    	>
   Dr. Darryl Davis                	>
                                    	>
   Multi-Media Laboratory		>
   Department of Electrical Engineering >   E-mail    	: dnd@spec0.man.ac.uk
   The University of Manchester     	>             
   Brunswick St                      	>   Phone     	: (+44)-61-275-4561
   Manchester M13 9PL               	>   FAX 	: (+44)-61-275-4512
                                    	>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wearing a helmet
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:19:43 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <BtCDpr.B1z@cup.hp.com>, hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner) writes:
> Paul Bonomo (paulb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM) wrote:
> the quaint notion that natural selection will work here is fantasy.
> for natural selection to work, that gene must be weeded out before
> said riders reach breeding age.  

not before they reach breeding age, hesh, but before they've actually
had a chance to reproduce.  that age varies, but is usually in the mid-20s,
and getting later as baby-boomers decide to have children in their 30s.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
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From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: Kevin
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:29:16 GMT

In article <RKOU.92Aug17110317@skat.ucs> rkou@skat.ucs (Roger H. Kou) writes:
>
>1) why do you people don't like scooters?
Little wheels get upset by pot-holes too easily.  Don't have the power to
get out of potentially dangerous situations.  People who ride them tend
to consider them safer than real motocycles and hence don't wear enough
safety gear.

>2) do any of you own a scooter?(e.g. Honda Helix/Elite)
No.

>3) are they bad?(i.e. is a bike better than a scooter?)
Bikes: Handle better, absorb roadshock better, have enough power to get out
of the way FAST, have enough power to run on the freeway.

>I don't have money for a motorcycle. So I am looking to buy a scooter.
>I think it's a good way to get around the city. Any suggestions?
I don't think it's possible to not have enough money to get a bike, but
still have enough for a scooter.  I bought by CB750 for $850.00, that was
12,000mi. ago.  I have friends who bought smaller bikes (550's and 450's)
in good condition for anywhere from $150-$450.  Are scooters that much
cheaper??
-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: garyb@lclark.edu (Gary Bliefernich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wearing a helmet
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:46:31 GMT
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

>the quaint notion that natural selection will work here is fantasy.
>for natural selection to work, that gene must be weeded out before
>said riders reach breeding age.  since the laws generally allow
>
>morbidly yours,
>
>-- hesh

I gotta disagree with you on that point, the age at which they reach breeding
capability is irrelevant, wether or not they breed is.  If the skid-lidless
rider dies before he breeds, that effectivly does away with the defective
dna strain(quite literally).

Just my opinion./gb
From: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (elaine 'BEANO' leffler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Kawasaki
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:23:45 GMT
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.corp.sun.com

In article 12823@isc-br.isc-br.com, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.130931.6458@linus.mitre.org> pab@security.mitre.org (Paul A. Bicknell) writes:
>>Anyway it was a 1100cc standard, no body work, no fairing, just two
>>wheels (the rear was massive), tank, seat, and a DOHC 4 with 8 plugs,
>>air cooled I believe. It definately looks like a big brother to the
>>550/750 Vulcan (? I'm not sure of the name of the current standard models). 
>>
>>Does any one know more about this bike?
>
>Sounds like the 1100 Zephyr.  According to what I've read Kawasaki 
>decided to import it to the US based on demand by dealers for a big
>standard to appeal to all of us who remember what motorcycles are 
>supposed to look like. :-).  

it's probably just called the ZR1100 now, kawasaki lost a lawsuit with
mercury regarding usage of the name zephyr.  according to last month's
_motorcyclist_, all in-stock zephyrs are undergoing decal removal.  i'm
glad i got my new gas tank when i did.....

elef, owner of one of the world's largest zephyr collections


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From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If it says RoadKill RoadKill RoadKill on the Label Label Label
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:37:15 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <1992Aug17.191014.13397@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.174746.21283@informix.com> dboyd@informix.com writes:
>>In article <16b44fINNn8@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green -  
>>Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>>> 
>>> The only road kill at the RCR came in little cans for $1 each.  So,
>>> Diana, how was it?
>>
>>Road Kill in a Can, who would ever have thought? Straight from Daytona, by way  
>>THE ORIGINAL ROAD KILL (7 stixs)
>>
>>"The Choice of Discriminating Bikers"
>
>naw.... not sticks.
>
>A friend of a friend (if anyone _really_ cares, I can get more info)
>marketed "Road Kill Jerky" a few years ago.  It was basic mass produced
>beef jerky, with the exception of the shape - it was carefully formed
>into the shape of flattened 4-legged critters, complete with a tire
>tread embossed into the surface.
>
>Of course, I nominate it as the official snack food of the DoD.
>(Aw, what the hell.  I nominate myself as the Keeper of the Edible Varmints.)
>
>If there is enough interest, I could try and obtain a batch, though I
>don't know if it's still in production or not.

That must mean that the song "Road Kill" by Vernal 'Pigmeat' Hussy and
the Wicked Good band, would be the offical Edible Varmints eating
song.  
   
There are several refrains like 
  "Road kill, road kill"
  "Basing beasties in my Blazer, 
  "Busting bambies in my Bronko
  "is a wicked decent thrill"
And a few lines about cooking and scraping from the road.

I have actuall seen the Wicked Good band twice, and have their first
album.  With enough demand, I may even type the whole Road Kill lyrics
in, but I really do not want to....  As I am perhaps the only reader 
of this group with a copy of said album, and without a DoD number, 
can I be the Official Keeper of the Edible Varmints Eating Song?
Unoffically?  Hmmmm.

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From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mr. Small
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:47:31 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


rkou@corvus.ucs (Roger H. Kou) writes:
>oh, I see. I missed out. this Mr. Small character is really a Mr. Big
>in this little Usenet community of ours. humm. interesting. he was in
>CA.  but hates CA(well, at least he hates the people in the _west
>coast_.) wait, he is a biker. in _the_ Navy. humm. something isn't
>right. I think the Navy part. he is too smart. I mean he can type, he
>knows how to post an article. humm. we need to do something about
>this. what next, those sailor boys taking over our jobs. NOT!
>I think I shall do something about this. Mr. Small please stay put.
>My lawyer will speak to you.
>money money money money Mo'money Mo'money Mo'money
>BTW: anyone like to share some $$$ out of this court settlement, which 
>I hope it's coming soon. if so, write.

OH god.  Look you shitfaced pig fucker, some of us students don't particularly
like the image we pick up by the copiously moist drivel spewing from the maw
of grammarians like yourself.  I answered your question about scooters since
I happen to be a scooter boy; so you should shut up now.  By the way, if you
ever come to the bay area, you should come visit and I'll give you some demos
of colon filtered oil recycling techniques.

-- 
The Wailer at the Gates of Dawn              | banshee@cats.UCSC.EDU       |
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DoD#0667  "Just a friend of the beast."      | banshee@ucscb.UCSC.EDU      |
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