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From: melanie@verdix.com (Melanie R Rooney)
Subject: NETBALL - A description of the game
Summary: Summary of the game of netball
Keywords: netball
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:37:51 GMT


Hi again,

I have been asked to provide a bit of a description of this game called
"netball" from a number of curious sports lovers who have never heard of the
game. So here go....as concise as I can make it!

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Netball is an International Sport and in fact it is the second most played
game in the world, behind the combined codes of football (gridiron,rugby,soccer
etc). It has traditionally been played by girls and women of all ages, but 
recently mixed-sex, indoor netball competitions have become very popular 
(certainly in Australia). It is a non-contact sport played by two teams of 
seven players and is based on throwing and catching. 
Goals are scored from within a defined area by throwing the ball into a 15 inch diameter ring attached to a 10 foot high post. 

The game is similar to basketball, except you cannot "travel" with the ball.
Also, each player must stay in designated thirds of the court, as determined 
by the position he/she is playing. Players wear uniforms that include the 
initials of the position they are playing in large letters, so that the umpires 
can call "offside" infringements easily. Only 2 players (the 2 designated 
shooters) can goal for the team, unlike basketball where anyone on the team 
can score a goal. 


The court is divided into equal thirds thus:-
                           100ft
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       |               |               |               |
       |               |               |               |
       |               |               |               |
  50ft |O              |               |              O|
       |               |               |               |
       |               |               |               |
       |               |               |               |
       |               |               |               |
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From: rgd3729@tamsun.tamu.edu (Greg Dilworth)
Subject: SW Section: Fencing Mailing List
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:00:24 GMT

I figured I would inform everyone in the Southwest Section of the USFA
that I have set up a mail server so that we can exchange information
about upcoming tournaments, gripes, comments, compliments, or
whatever.  I hope it turns out to be useful.

In order to get some limited information about it you can send mail to

'fencer@tamsun.tamu.edu'

After that you need to mail me 'GregD@tamu.edu' in order to have me
add your name manually to the list.  It is nothing fancy, but I hope
that it might end up being useful.  

Incidentally, I do not intend for this, in any way, to be a
replacement for the Fencing Newsgroup that we have been discussing.  I
just think that it might be handy to have a more limited forum for
discussing local things.

If you are not in the Southwestern area you are more than welcome to
join the mailing list (we are not prejudiced on any grounds at all
that I can think of).  All you need is a valid internet mailing
address.

Yours,

Greg

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From: melanie@verdix.com (Melanie R Rooney)
Subject: Netball anyone?
Summary: Looking to see if women's netball is played anywhere in the USA
Keywords: netball
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:51:13 GMT

Hi all...

I am surprised to discover that women's netball doesn't appear to be a sport 
that has taken America by storm, despite its huge popularity in Australia 
(where I'm from), England, New Zealand, the West Indies and Fiji. 

Has anybody reading this ever even heard of the game and/or know if it is
played at all in the USA. I am currently living in the Washington D.C./Nth VA
area and am hoping to find a small group of devotees in this area that I 
can join for a regular game. 


Thanks in advance....
                          Melanie Rooney
                          melanie@verdix.com

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From: bill@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: How far away to stand playing darts?
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:45:29 GMT

In article <BvF0K9.5n4@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ea47916@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Eric Adams) writes:
> I'm sure this is a major sized FAQ but I'm sitting here and need to know how
> far away from the dartboard to stand "officially".  
> 
> Thanx in advance,
> 
> Eric 
 
I hope I'm not mistaken on this, but I believe it is 7 feet 9.75 inches,
or is it 7 ft 9.25 inches?

Anyway, with the height of the bull at 5 ft 8 inches, it is easier to
measure the diagonal from the bull to the toe line, and if you calculate
it on the above measures, you get either 115.4 or 115.8 inches. So
if you say 115 and a half inches from the bull to the toe line,
you won't be far off. Anybody who knows for sure, please post.

ps I cross posted this to alt.sport.darts, where the experts are.

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From: vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo)
Subject: HBO Morrison vs. Foreman
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:49:54 GMT

I read in the USA today that George Foreman and Tommy Morrison signed 
contracts with HBO. George for 3 fights, I don't know about the DUKE. 
They reported that George and the Duke will fight opponets and if 
they both win, they will face each other. 

Does anyone have an opinion on this fight? After reading the book by
Thomas Hauser on ALI, I wish George would retire. From the way it looks
and sounds on TV, Tommy Morrison punches very hard. He is going to take
alot of punishment before he regains the title.

I bet that the featured opponets will be: 
Alex Stewart vs. Morrison and
Alex Garcia vs. Foreman 
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From: tokuda@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Lee Tokuda)
Subject: Re: Norris vs Brown Sat on HBO
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:07:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.142939.16460@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>Terry Norris will fight Simon Brown Saturday on HBO 9:00 CST. They are fighting
>at Ceasars for the Super Welterweight title. I predict a KO for Norris. Brown
>gave Meldrick Taylor a hard time knocking him down 2 times in the fight, but
>losing a split decision. Should be a good fight, but Norris is just too good!
>
>And by the way, if anyone watches this, would you record it for me?
>

Actually, the guy you're thinking of is Glenwood 'Real Beast' Brown.
He dropped the split decision with Meldrick Taylor in his second title
shot and also lost on points to Maurice Blocker in his first title shot.

Simon Brown was formerly the Welterweight champ of the world.  He lost
his crown (L12) to Buddy McGirt about half a year ago (or so).  Brown had one
of the worst fights of his career that night as he had to starve himself
to make the weight.  He looked sluggish throughout and ran out of gas
by about the 8th.  The 154 pound weight division should be much kinder
to Brown and I expect him to look alot sharper.  You're right, though.
Terry Norris is just too good.  Brown was an excellent welterweight 
champ but I expect Norris to win a unanimous decision.


-Lee

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From: vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com (John Vittallo)
Subject: UPCOMING FIGHTS
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:30:11 GMT

Upcoming Heavyweight fights

Oct 6 - Michael Dokes vs. Jose Ribalta - USA
Oct 7 - Ray Mercer vs. Mike Dixon - ESPN 
Oct 31 - Lennox Lewis vs. Razor Ruddock - HBO
Nov 8 - Riddick Bowe vs. Evander Holyfield - PPV
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: Caddie-ing
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:39:13 GMT

In <1a6aaiINNo0k@network.ucsd.edu> kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim) writes:

>NEVER wear golf shoes when caddieing.  They will only add additional
>unnecessary spike marks.  If I remember Capilano, it is a pretty hilly 
>course, so wear a comfortable pair of sneakers.  If it is wet,
>an all leather low cut basketball shoe usually does the job.

How about golf shoes with rubber spikes ? This doesn't create spike marks, and
I guess this doesn't create a "footprint" like an ordinary rubber shoe would.
Seems like you have played Capilano, huh ? When did you and for what event ?
Actually, the men's competition will be split between Marine Drive and Capilano
because there are 57 teams - too many to keep in one location. SO there will be
a draw to assign teams to Marine Drive and Capilano. The top teams after two 
days will move to Capilano and the rest will move to Marine Drive.

>I have really enjoyed my caddying experiences.  I have learned more about 
>golf, especially what to do around the green, watching professionals play 
>as a caddie.  I have often played my best rounds after caddieing, because
>their superior tempo rubs off on you (unfortunately this only lasts a
>day or two).  I am sure your friend is quite a player to be playing 
>in the World Am.  Watch, learn, and have fun.

Yeah, I am already in awe watching these guys play. I hope to learn something
from being in the middle of it all.

>If you have any other questions, just email.

Thanks very much for your inputs. These are enough to absorb for the meantime.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Phoenix golf, revisited
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:32:41 GMT

In article <koenig.718344082@hydra> koenig@convex.com (Mark Koenig) writes:

>bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:

>>>              around that allows reciprocal play.  Several temporary greens

>>What do you mean by "reciprocal?"  If you mean that you can
>>take off on the back and do the front after, then yes, it
>>is sort of rare. 

>I believe he means that once you pay $n for a round and cart, you go out
>and play again for just the cart fee.  This is quite common place on most
>of the courses here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area.  Courses that don't 
>allow this are usually not high on the reccomended list.

C'mon.  What Mark is describing is known as a daily-fee course.
"Reciprocity" refers to private courses mutually granting one another playing
privileges for no (or a reduced) fee.

Around here, at least, looking at the reciprocity circles is the easiest
way to find how a club rates on the snooty scale...
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: john@sequent.com (John Vander Borght)
Subject: Re: Rule clarification: moved ball
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: rec.sport.golf
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:26:07 GMT

ksb@adm.csc.ncsu.edu (Kelvin S. Bryant) writes:

>I've read the rule concerning removing loose impediments and also the 
>associated "moved ball" rule.  Sometimes when I remove loose
>impediments, the ball moves ever so slightly.  I'm not really sure if
>it has come to rest in the same EXACT position (who could).  Practically
>speaking, how do you determine if your ball has been moved according
>to the rules.  Clearly, if the ball rolls or something drastic then
>it is obvious.  But as the ball moves less ... 

If the ball comes to rest in a different location than it's original position,
it has moved.  If it jiggles but ends up back in its orginal position, it
hasn't moved.

Moving includes if it is sitting up in tall grass and moves downward.

Any change of position no matter how small is movement.

In other words, be real careful moving loose impediments.

John Vander Borght
john@sequent.com
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From: john@sequent.com (John Vander Borght)
Subject: Re: Caddie-ing
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:17:16 GMT

kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim) writes:

>I am personally against these so call "spikeless" golf shoes.  The rubber
>spikes seem to act just like football cleats.  I have heard that these 
>type of shoes have been banned at some golf courses.  Every professional
>caddie I have seen has worn some type of sneaker or tennis shoe.  I still 
>don't think these type of shoes leave much of a footprint, but when you 
>are on the green, just watch to make sure you don't step into anybody's 
>line, just as if you were playing.

There are a new kind of spikeless shoes that are really spikeless.  They
are almost the same as the Rockports I wear every day.  They are made by
FootJoy and have a basically smooth sole with some ridges that run across
the shoes.  My club is encouraging us to buy them as they have an article
from the USGA about how bad spikes are for the greens.

John Vander Borght
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From: d90gl@efd.lth.se (Gustaf Loefberg)
Subject: Graphite Shafts
Reply-To: d90gl@efd.lth.se (Gustaf Loefberg)
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:05:06 GMT

What's the use in having graphite shafts in your irons?
If you need to hit an iron longer, you take a longer club.
I've noticed that Montgomerie and Daly uses firesticked
irons, is there a reason for this except sponsors money?
Could it be something with the torque?
From: rmb2491@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Robert M. Button)
Subject: Re: Balls bouncing off water
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Date:  5 Oct 1992 11:26 EST  

In article <1992Oct5.100753.11867@st-andrews.ac.uk>, cdcs@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin D. C. Steele) writes...
>On THREE occasions in recent months, I have made a mess of iron shots over a
>water hazard (pond on 14th/15th on Eden course, St Andrews) and the ball has
>bounced off the water. On two of the occasions, it arrived safely back on
>dry land while on the other occasion, it bounced off the water 6 times before
>sinking in the 7th time.
> 
>Is this sort of thing more common than would appear (i.e. has it happened to
>others) or is it just that I play badly enough to put the wrong sort of spin
>on the ball and it comes to my aid on occasions like this ?
> 

Very common...As a youngster just learning to play the game, many awry shots
skipped off the water like skipping stones thrown into a pond.
I actually used my knowledge of this fact to make a golf shot once (again...
when I was young and foolish).  I was in a two day junior tournament in 
central Ohio.  One hole had a green guarded by a small pond with little or
no bank.  An errant shot left me under some trees about 75 yds. from the 
green.  I somehow dreamed up a hooded 3-iron shot (had to keep it low to
get out of the trees) that would purposefully hit the pond at a low angle
and high rate of speed, and skip up on the green.  Well, the shot left the
club much as I had intended...hit the middle of the pond...skipped 2 or
three times and came up about 6 inches short of the shoreline. 
Obviously...I did not fare well in the tournament.

Eventually I got much better and now barely notice water hazards on the
golf course.
From: ckuznia@aludra.usc.edu ( Ckuznia)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Golf Vacation/School Recommendation?
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:21:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: aludra.1acuntINNc6e
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

>Can anyone recommend a spa/resort/club/golf school?
>We'd like to stay on the west coast to keep travel
>expenses down, but if there's the 'right' place to
>go in the East we'd consider it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>jaym

I just talked to a golfing couple that went to Club Med in Ixtapa,
Mexico.  They said the instruction (I think included in the CM
package) was excellent.  There is a description of the courses in this
month's Golf Digest.  

Plus there are many other perks included in the Club Med vacation and
I think the price (which include food and all activities) is
reasonable.  For info call 1 800 CLUBMED.

Charlie
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From: dat91jre@ludat.lth.se (Regmyr Jonas)
Subject: Re: Caddie-ing
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Lund, Sweden
X-Newsreader: Some, that didn't work so I had to use Pnews. :(
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:48:59 GMT

kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim) writes:
(Deleted Text)
: his ball.  If your player hits a good shot and hits the green, 
: immediately pass him his putter, take the other club away and give it
: a wipe.
(Deleted Text)

I don't know how much this is worth, but when I caddied on PLM Open at
Bokskogen here in south Sweden I was told not to get the putter out of
the bag before my player had hit the shot and safely landed it on the green.
The thing is, if you have the putter in your hand you will add some more
pressure on the player. He/She will feel that you expect him/her to land this
one on the green.

Hope you'll do fine.

               /Jonas..........

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Phone 1: +46 (0)46 39 06 60         Phone 2: +46 (0)46 13 33 01
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From: samg@dadd.ti.com (Samuel G. Goins,SEG,)
Subject: Re: Phoenix golf, revisited
Reply-To: samg@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:11:03 GMT

In article 20288@ichips.intel.com, bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.211417.27424@csc.ti.com> jimv@dadd.ti.com writes:
>>Foothills   - Tom Weiskopf(?) course.  $25 w/cart on wknd.  ONLY course 
>
>Tom Weiskopf and Jay Morrish(?I'll check the signs on the way home).

>>              around that allows reciprocal play.  Several temporary greens
>
>What do you mean by "reciprocal?"  If you mean that you can
>take off on the back and do the front after, then yes, it
>is sort of rare...

No, no, no.  The term reciprocal refers to the abililty for the golfer to 
play more than 18 holes, ON THE SAME DAY, after paying greens fees.  That is,
once you pay your green's fees, they're good for the day.  If you wanna ride 
a cart, you may have to pay for more holes, but that's it.  NO PHOENIX area
courses allowed this, they were all "18-hole greens fees".  The Foothills was
the only exception, and in fact, they even let you ride the cart for no additional
charge, another "Best Buy"...

This may seem acceptable to you (the 18-holes-only) as you live there and are
accustomed to this policy.  But MOST courses that I have played allow "reciprocal"
play.  

The average round for me that weekend was 4.5 hrs for TPC Stadium, 4 hrs for
TPC Desert, and 3.5 hrs for the Foothills.  It got dark at the Phoenician after
11 holes, but we were on about a 5 hour pace.  I expect resort courses will take
longer on average due to the rich execs that only play a coupla times a year...
and are probably betting $$$, which translates to 10 minutes per green to do
the ritual plum-bob dance...
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From: gr@st-andrews.ac.uk (Gavin Ramsay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Solheim Cup
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:30:25 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.golf
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

Does anyone know what the final score was in the Solheim Cup?
Gavin RamsaY
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From: ear@sei.cmu.edu (Eugene Rindels)
Subject: golf news
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:25:15 GMT


I read this of Clari.sports.top this morning.  Here are some of the pieces.
Why just some of the pieces...can you say copy right, I knew you could.  I had
posted a couple complete articles a few weeks ago and clari didn't like it
very much.  And my sight manager got a little concerned.  We don't want to
blow a good thing clari is giving CMU its services for free until the City
gets a newspaper again.  So when I have the time I'll try to keep the post
coming.  It's just more work to edit than to cut and past.

Gary Hallberg claimed a one-stroke victory over Jim Gallagher.
rain canceled the final round of the $700,000 Southern Open held at Pine
Mountain, Ga. First Place earned $126,000 for the victory. 

Barry Lane of England shot a 4-under-par 68 to win the $1.02 million German
Masters by two strokes.  Lane, runner-up last week at the Belgian Open,
finished at 16-under 272 to take the first prize of $170,000. 

Europe won the Solheim Cup, defeating(I didn't like the word they used here
anyway) the favored Americans by winning seven of 10 matches on the final day
at Dalmahoy, Scotland. Europe won the three-day event by a final score of 11
1/2 to 6 1/2.  This is the Woman's version of the Ryder Cup.
 
Eugene A. Rindels    ear@sei.cmu.edu     Former SSgt  USMC "Semper Fi"
Real-Time Systems Program
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA
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From: escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Mar Siew Cheong)
Subject: Re: Hitting straight
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:07:35 GMT

  I am simply overwhelmed by the many kind and useful advices I
  have received (including emails) so far on how to cure my 
  acheing hand/fingers prob. Thank you all very much.
 
  Any improvements will be reported in due course.


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