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From: riouxp@rs6418.ecs.rpi.edu (Peter Joseph Rioux)
Subject: Re: Major inconsistencies in BatB....
Reply-To: riouxp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:50:58 GMT

In article <Rich_Koster.19iv@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US>, Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
|> Hi Peter!
|>  
|> On Sat 12 Dec 92 you wrote a list of inconsistencies in BatB,
|> including:
|>  
|>  > 53. you can see the rain pounding on belle and the beast, but
|>  >     nobody else...
|>  >
|>  > 54. where does the arrow the goston put in the beast go?
|>  >
|>  > now some that i noticed ater... sorry..
|>  >
|>  > 54. when the beast looks in the mirror for the first time...
|>  > whada.. whaddoes she want me to do, beg?....another recording
|>  > error..
|>  
|> I noticed an inconsistency in your post -- two # 54's!! ;-)
|> 
|> -- Via DLG Pro v0.995
|> 
|> Internet: rich_koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
|>     UUCP: rex!agwbbs!rich_koster

thank you... i was typing too quickly to notice.. nice to see somebody did....

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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: lea salonga
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:59:54 GMT

Robert Cook (rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu) wrote:
> 
> According to various sources, Aladdin and Jasmine didn't have
> singing parts when the voice actors were cast.
>
> - Robert Cook

Not completely true... It was Jasmine who had no singing part when Linda
Larkin was cast in the role... However, they had been looking SO LONG for
a good speaking voice for "Aladdin" that it didn't matter that Scott Weinger
could not sing.  Aladdin most definitely had a song (i.e. "Proud of Your
Boy"), but then it was cut.  THEN, Alan Menken wrote and rewrote "You Can
Count on Me".  THEN, a singing voice was cast and "YCCoM" recorded.  THEN,
that song was cut.  THEN, Menken and Rice wrote "One Jump Ahead" and "A
Whole New World" and a new, older singing voice was needed.  THEN, Brad Kane
was finally cast around the beginning of THIS year.....  Craaaaaaazy!
--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."

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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: Lea Salonga
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:51:57 GMT

Rafi Levavy (shorts@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu) wrote:
>
> Are you sure Miss Saigon won Best Musical that year?  I thought The
> Will Rogers Follies won that year, but I might be getting my years
> confused.
> 
> Rafi

Rafi, you are correct.  I knew that Miss Saigon did not win, but for the
life of me, I couldn't remember what did.  Good job!

--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."
From: shannon@sj.ate.slb.com (Shannon Little)
Subject: Disney Poster
Reply-To: shannon@sj.ate.slb.com ()
Organization: Schlumberger ATE, San Jose
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:06:43 GMT

I contacted Dynamic Marketing in Sydney, Australia about the Disney Poster
that was posted about earlier.  They were able to give me contact information
where the poster would be available in the United States.  The contact
information is as follows:

After the Anthem
Attn:  Jim Didonato
8427 Dorrington Avenue
Panorama, California  91402  

Phone:  (818) 785-4893

They also said that the poster will be available in New York at a later
date.  They will let me know the details once they are confirmed.

They were VERY nice and I can not wait to get my copy.  I will post about
my impressions, if anyone is interested. 

If you are in Australia, the contact information would be as follows:

Dynamic Marketing
60B Henry Lawson Drive
Peakhurst NSW 2210 Australia
Phone: (02) 584-1999 fax (02) 53-9529

Since many people were posting inquiries about this poster, I hope you 
find this information useful.

-Shannon 
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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid rated X???
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:13:40 GMT

Derek J. Wojciech (bz754@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
>  
> I don't know if this question is old hat or not.  It was new to me.  A friend
> of mine said she had heard that in Little Mermaid (I don't know what scene) a
> phallic symbol is shown very clearly.  I was also told that Disney has
> fired this artist and taken him/her to court.  Does anyone have any info
> on this situation.  Or are people just 'seeing things?'
>  
> 					Derek

The phallic symbol wasn't in the film, it was on the children's poster.
In the background, one of the cylindrical objects making up the palace
bears an uncanny resemblance to "you know what"...  You will notice that
this changed for the video artwork...  I'm not certain what became of 
the artist, but I though I heard of a firing over the situation...
--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."

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From: amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: tlm: ariel model info
Date: 16 Dec 92 05:19:04 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <cindy.174@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham) writes:
>
>Does anyone know Sherri Stoner's hometown?  An acquaintance told me
>that a girl she went to high school with was the model for Ariel.
>"Yeah, right", thought I.  Anyway, the acquaintance went to school
>somewhere in Santa Ana.

I read an article in one of these movie magazines a while back about Sherri
Stoner, and it said she was born in Kansas, for whatever that's worth.
---
"Congratulations, Amberle, you've just finished the first of many years towards
your Ph.D!  What-are-you-gonna-do-now?"

"I'M GOING TO DISNEYLAND!!!"

Amberle Ferrian <amberle@epx.cis.umn.edu>
From: bd670@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell I. Dyreng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Christmas Surprise at WDW
Date: 15 Dec 1992 23:17:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I was at WDW last week.  Everything is decorated for Christmas.
In town square they have a huge Christmas tree set up (about 
four stories high).  Every evening they have a tree lighting
ceremony, where a child is chosen from the crowd to throw the
switch and turn on all of the lights on the giant tree.  

On December 10, my wife was just coming out of the camera shop 
on Main Street when the lighting ceremony began.  They went 
through the normal pre-lighting fanfare and a young girl threw 
the switch.  The lights came on for a second, they went dim, and
smoke and flames were seen coming from an area near the top of
the tree, on the side facing toward the castle.  My wife says 
that cast members were quickly moving the oversized presents 
away from the tree.  The power was shut off and the fire quickly
subsided.  (They must have some pretty heavy-duty flame 
retardant on that tree).  The tree remained dark for the
remainder of the evening.

We came back the next day and the tree lighting cermony took 
place as scheduled, only no fire this time.

My wife got the whole thing on video.  I'm going to try and
watch it tonight.
-- 
Russ
bd670@cleveland.freenet.edu
Remember-any advice that I give you may be worth exactly what
you paid for it.
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyana - Photos
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:56:07 GMT
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Carol and I are so happy!  We thought we had lost one or two rolls of 35mm
film we had shot during our September visit to WDW.  I even called the WDW
lost and found, the lost and found departments of both Dixie Landings and
the Contemporary Resort, the car rental company, and the airline we flew
on -- hoping they'd found the film.
 
The other day what should roll out from under the driver's seat of my car
but a missing roll of film!!!  We've gotten it developed and now have all
the missing pictures we shot -- including some of Admiral Joe Fowler
talking at the Disneyana Convention!!  (It turns out we only lost one roll
of film and not two.)
 
What a wonderful Christmas present to have pop up!
 
We now have all our pictures in a wonderful Disney photo album.  Oh, yeah!
I haven't told you about the wonderful surprise which the Disney folks
provided when we stayed at Port Orleans during the Surprise Celebration
year.  When we got back I noticed on our Magic Kingdom Club package receipt
that we had supposedly gotten a free surprise gift of a photo album --
except
something had gotten messed up and they had never given it to us (seeing it
mentioned on the receipt was even the first I had heard of it).
 
I called Dixie Landings front desk on the phone and after checking their
paperwork they shipped the photo album fight out to us.  It is a beautiful
blue 3-ring photo album with Mickey and Goofy on the front cover carrying
a silver-frame.  There are instructions on how to insert a cropped photo of
yours into this frame.  Mickey and Goofy are wearing celebration hats, and
the WDW 20 Years logo is also on the cover in silver, along with a
copyright
of 1991 by "THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY" (which makes this more than just an
album and quite collectible!).  Inside are 49 blank blue-edged pages which
can hold up to 4 standard-sized photos on each side of a page.  Even with
all the photos Carol and I took, there are plenty of pages left over for
the
next trip! ;-)
 
We had thought that the special surprise included in the package was that
we
could get into the Magic Kingdom extra early on certain days.
 
All in all, just another example of how the Disney folks go out of their
way
to give their guests even more than they expected!
 
(-:B  <-tilt head to right to see me grinning while wearing Mouse ears!

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From: pyramus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Brooks Meador)
Subject: Re: Lea Salonga
Keywords: CD, Lea Salonga
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:31:29 GMT

>  FYI.
>  For those interested in Lea Salonga (and not into Broadway), 
>  she really became famous starring in the Broadway and London show 
>  Miss Saigon.  I believe she was nominated for a Tony award, though I 
>  can't remember if she won.

she was nominated for, and won, best actress in a musical in both the
united states and england.  her performance was absolutely stellar (from
what i've heard.  i haven't had the priveledge of seeing her)



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From: ed@ravel.udel.edu (Edward P. Hu)
Subject: Mickey's Very Merry...On ABC
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 06:22:43 GMT

   Is Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Parade (ABC, 10 AM, Christmas 
morning) going to be broadcast live from the Magic Kingdom?  If
so, does anyone know on which part of the parade route the camera
will be focused (castmembers, help???)?
   I'm hoping to be in the Magic Kingdom that day, and the guys
on my floor at school want me to hold up some kind of sign with our
school name on it.  Of course, I'll also make a rec.arts.disney sign
too!!!
   I won't be staying on property until later, so I also have to make
sure that we'll be able to get into the Magic Kingdom.  Do the parking
lots fill up very early on Christmas morning?
   Thanks for any help. 8:-)

   Eddie

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From: arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Voice Credits: Wardrobe
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:30:11 GMT

In article <m0n05CN-0000eOC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
> The three Bimbettes are called something like "Goldie, Red & Greenie" and are
> supposedly only voice acted/sung by two women.  Who are the voices for Tom,
> Dick & Stanley and Goldie, Red & Greenie, and who voiced Marie, Otto and the
> Stove (whatever his name was).  Also who did the neighs for Phillipe?  

Kath Souci was one of the bimbettes.
Didn't Frank Welker do Phillipe?  Or maybe he was Otto (I'm probably wrong
about both of those....)
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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid rated X???
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:18:07 GMT
Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
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In article <1gahg2INNf7j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear) writes:
>
>It's been my impression that people can find phallic symbols anywhere
>if they want to.  If it's what you're looking for, you'll find something.
>These people need to go out and get a real life, IMHO.  

	This one is pretty blatant, though. If you pause the
opening scene of the underwater castle, for a few frames worth
(not the entirety of the showing of the castles), one of the
turrets is distinctly phallic.
	-- Ethan


"I have never seen one of these intact before... This is the
famous dead-sea tupperware"

	-- Robin Williams
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From: v085kghv@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The Legend of the Lamp
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


FYI: In the beginning of Aladdin the street hawker says
	"Salaam, and good evening....."

     Salaam happens to be the Arabic word for peace (its the equivalent of
Shalom)


						TTFN
						-Wendy
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From: shorts@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Rafi Levavy)
Subject: Re: Lea Salonga
Keywords: CD, Lea Salonga
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:22:17 GMT

>>  FYI.
>>  For those interested in Lea Salonga (and not into Broadway), 
>>  she really became famous starring in the Broadway and London show 
>>  Miss Saigon.  I believe she was nominated for a Tony award, though I 
>>  can't remember if she won.
>>
>>  She and Saigon co-star Jonathan Pryce were at the center of
>>  a major blow up between the producer of Miss Saigon and the
>>  American stage actor's union Equity when the show was being
>>  brought to Broadway. Equity wanted them to cast American
>>  actors of Asian descent (Pryce is English and not Asian) and 
>>  the producer insisted that he couldn't find anyone of the 
>>  equivalent talent here.  They came to some agreement and Equity 
>>  let them use the London stars.
>>
>>  (I think the producer threatened not to open the show in the US.)
>>

>Lea Salonga *did* win that Tony award for best lead actress in a musical,
>and if I'm not mistaken, Jonathan Pryce also won a Tony for best
>supporting actor in a musical.  BTW, Miss Saigon won the Tony that year
>for Best Musical.

Are you sure Miss Saigon won Best Musical that year?  I thought The
Will Rogers Follies won that year, but I might be getting my years
confused.

Rafi


-- 
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From: cg533@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James Eugene Alloway)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Hiawatha new Disney Movie?
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:39:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I had heard by word of mouth that Hiawatha was to be the next Disney film.
Is there any truth to this rumor?  If not, what is the next film
rumored to be?

Gene
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From: rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke)
Subject: FAQ Question
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:19:39 GMT


Hi!!

While trying to save the FAQ, my computer went crazy.  I lost the files.
Can someons please repost the FAQ on rec.arts.disney??

Thanks in Advance!!

Rob Dorocke
(rdorocke@ucs.indiana.edu)


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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: tlm: ariel model info
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:04:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1992Dec14.021438.3515@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>I'm sorry guys, but I don't get it.  Stoner?  Ariel?  They don't look a thing
>alike, and Sherri didn't do Ariel's voice....is this just a stature thing?
>Anybody wanna enlighten me?

Well, I doubt that Disney needed a model to help them make a character
petite! :-)  Sherri Stoner provided the "Live-action Reference" for
both Ariel and Belle.  She helps "inspire" the animators that try
to make these characters move in a convincing manner.  Walt Disney
said "I definitely feel that we cannot do the fantastic things based
on the real, unless we first know the real."  Stoner provides the
basic reference, and additional mannerisms are inspired by the voice
actor or the animators' own faces (they have mirrors mounted on their
desks, in case you've never noticed).

Live action references are primarily used for the main characters, I
believe.  There are usually only two or three credited actors hired for
this role (at "scale" wages--$500 a day(?)).  BTW, in those here's-how-
we-do-animation things Disney broadcasts every so often, I thought I
saw Ariel/Beast animator Glen Keane posing for Beast.  How flattering! :-)


- Robert Cook
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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Winnie the Pooh special last night
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:00:41 GMT

Did anyone see 'Winnie the Pooh' and Christmas too on t.v Friday
night? (Didn't check the channel).  It was okay, but it was barely
over 1/2 hour, so the rest of the time was devoted to (quite
unexpectedly for me, since I had no idea what I was watching) first, a
detailed piece on how Disney does animation, with clips from TLM and
BatB thrown in.  Then the last 15 minutes or so was devoted to the
making of the Muppet Christmas Carol.  Was this a special feature
found in the schedule, or was it a bonus that I happened to be
watching the right channel at the right time?  Anyway, it was very
interesting.  I wish I had been at home, I would have recorded it.



Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: tlm: ariel model info
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:34:08 -0800
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
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In article <92351.222354AUDMH@ASUACAD.BITNET> <AUDMH@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1gjhtqINNd6b@aludra.usc.edu>, rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) says:
>>Santa Ana is a suburb of Southern California, about...oh, 50 miles southeast
>>of Burbank (about an hour or so drive on the freeways here).
>
>Santa Ana to Burbank in one hour on the freeways.  We talking the same
>freeways?  Or are we hypothesizing that she commutes at 2AM?  Sheesh.  :)

  Don't look at me. I only go as far south as Fullerton.  B-)  I don't usually
travel to towns whose biggest namesake is a horse race track... (Or is that
Santa Anita? Don't answer.  B-)

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: okamoto@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jeff Okamoto)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:38:24 GMT
Subject: Re: Tokyo Disneyland
Organization: An-Pan Man Headquarters
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney

dons@col.hp.com (Don Schott) asks:

> > She paid 22,000Y ($185) per night for a VERY small room with a single bed
> > in Tokyo.
> 
> >>Typical, but you can go cheaper if you stay in a "busines hotel".
> 
>   What's a business hotel?

It's a hotel where the clientele tend to be businessmen on business trips.
For instance, I stayed at the Yaesu Fujiya Hotel, which is about a five
minute walk from the Yaesu entrance to Tokyo Station.  I think I paid about
Y12,000 per night.
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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid rated X???
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:37:46 EST

In article <1992Dec14.202420.29381@pmafire.inel.gov>
geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) writes:
 
>
>pyramus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Brooks Meador) writes concerning
>the a professor's analysis of phallic symbols in The Little Mermaid:
>
>>the main symbol is ursulla and her quest to become male.  she has eight
>>limp appendages, and constantly strives to attain triton's long, hard
>>rod that shoots things out.  once she gets this, she expands in size,
>>and is finally destroyed by being penetrated by an even larger phallus.
>>its quite entertaining to watch the whole movie from this perspective.
>>you should all try it.
>
>Yeah, Idaho State University has one of those professors, too.  My wife
>had the joy of taking Literature from him.  I bet you didn't know that
>everything written in the history of the English language has something
>to do with Sex, Religion, or The South -- often involving a combination
>of these three.  Most enlightening.
>
>ISU's professor has tenure, so nothing can be done about it, though,
>except to try to avoid his classes.  I wonder if this professor has
>tenure.
>
>Sheesh.
>
 
   One of the big reasons why I don't take most "intellectuals" seriously
anymore; (There are other reasons, but I really shouldn't go into it.)
 
   I actually did something about this attempt to put "phallic symbol"
analysis into everything.  In my freshman year at Cornell, in a writing
class, we were supposed to write a five page paper on _Little Red Riding
Hood_ (or more accurately, _The Little Red Cap_.)  We had just spent a
lecture and a half listening to the premise that it was all an unconscious
symbolism of female puberty and sexual awakening.  (e.g. "red" being the
color of menstral blood; being eaten standing for sexual experience, etc.)
   So I pointed out _Little Red Riding Hood_ for what it REALLY was.
 
    A Communist Propoganda.
 
  Red is the color of the Communist party
  The Wolf is the greedy capitalist
  The girl stands for the workers (Red clothes symbolizes the natural
alliance between the communists and the workers.)
   The grandmother is a poor third world country, dying for help from the
workers (sausage being the symbol of help)
  The hunter who kills the wolf is the great communist party.
 
   You can figure out the rest.
   Hell, if you ignore the fact that the tale was written centuries before
Karl Marx was born, it makes as much case for itself as the phallic symbol
hypothesis.
 
   As far as the idea goes, I think this was the best idea I ever had...
I should have been a comp lit grad student instead of economics.
 
     "It's an idea-saturation [advertising] campaign.  We want to reach
everyone.  People who aren't open to rational arguments; people who only
respond to emotional assaults, such as the illiterate -- or the
intellectuals." ...character Anne Perrine from _The Jehovah Contract_
by Victor Koman
 
 
   Junsok Yang
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