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From: system@inqmind.bison.mb.ca ( Sysop Entity)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Modem angst
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 21:18:13 CDT
Organization: The Inquiring Mind BBS  1 204 488-1607

I finally took the plunge and bought myself one of them new fangled 14.4 
Kbps modems with all those V.32s, V.42s and MNPs.  It is a BOCA modem, 
and I am running Waffle 1.65 on a 386/33.  I am polling a site that has a 
USRobotics 9600 baud modem and is running Waffle 1.64 on an AT.  Nobody 
knows the trouble I've seen.  Connection is ok, except a string of 
EEEEEEEEEEs shows up during the negotiation phase, handshaking occurs and 
transmission begins.  Then the dreaded ( he said sobbing ) header errors 
start and they just keep coming until the process mercifully times out.

I thought I had the problem solved after RTFM and using a fossil driver.  
Then IT started happening again.  Incidently, increasing buffer sizes 
available to the fossil driver did not help.  I am now having some 
success with the fossil driver loaded and locking it at 9600.  My modem 
init string in the "dialers" file is as follows:

at&F L1 N0 S37=9

&F ->  The factory settings, I have tried virtually every combination of
       possibilities with optional settings, this includes turning off
       compression and manually setting just about every S register 
       available.  My, aren't there a lot of those S registers!
       My conclusion after experimenting with non-factory settings is
       that the factory settings are wonderful and should only be 
       changed reluctantly.

L1 ->  Lower the volume 

N0 ->  Follow the S37 register

S37=9   ->  Attempt to connect at 9600


I am open to suggestions about what I can do to make this thing work 
better.  I am kind of disappointed so far.  I also have some problem with 
the modem not resetting after a normal BYE.  I had this problem with my 
generic 2400 baud modem also and I think this may be a problem with 1.65, 
this non-reset problem is intermitent.  I had Waffle 1.64 running for 
almost two years with scarcely a hitch.  I'm not used to having such a 
persistent, thorny and generally mean spirited problem such as this.  It 
is making me tense.  
Help,
Tod

system@inqmind.bison.mb.ca
The Inquiring Mind BBS, Winnipeg, Manitoba  204 488-1607
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: How to let users make group aliases?
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:55:55 GMT

king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) writes:

>How can users set up a group-type mail alias?  For example, a user
>wants to set up an alias to send to about 8 people, all of them
>off-site.  Together their addresses are far too long to fit on a single
>line in the user's ALIASES file.  Recursive aliases don't work, so they
>can't set up something like:

THEY can't, but YOU can.  Set up a file in the "leader's" home directory
with the aliases in it.  Then in the system aliases file:

group  +c:\userdir\userid\alias.fil

Actually, you can set up the system alias and let "leader" enter
the individual ones.  Og course, he'll need to know what filename
to use.

Not tested, but the logic seems intact.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Tracking mail volumes
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 21:27:48 Y
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS
Summary: I need something to track usage


I am after a program to track net mail volumes sent and received.

I need to track volumes on a total and per-user basis, due to mailing
charges about to be imposed (US$15/Mb)

Is there a program that will do this for waffle?



dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS  ( +64 6 357-9245 )
From: costin@tmmb.uucp (costin rizan)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: This is a test
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:03:07 GMT
Organization: The Money Markets Bbs, Montreal,Qc,Canada

jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein) writes:
>
> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
> >
> > frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
> > 
> > > I was just wondering, has anyone thrown in a drop-in replacement for news 
> > > reading in the DOS version of Waffle?  Would it be possible to get the 
> > > source for say, 'trn', port it to DOS and use it under Waffle?  Would it 
> > > be compatible?
> > >
> > > What about drop-in replacements for e-mail?  What benefits would I see 
> > > over the internal mail (I am using 1.65 which seems to have a nicely 
> > > powerful mail facility)?
> > 
> > Well, I got NN267B.ZIP from mailserv@batpad.lgb.ca.us and it has
> > one program that is a NN newsread and another that is an NN mail
> > reader. To run them from inside Waffle requires SHROOM and DOORWAY
> > be used, tho I haven't gotten that far yet.
> 
> First of all: The correct release is NN271.ZOO. You can order it form
> 'mail-server@giraffe.in-berlin.de' by sending the following command:
> 
> GET modem/waffle/nn271.zoo
> 
> > I can get the mail reader to work from DOS, and aside from being
> > a little slower than Waffle's mail, it is very functional. About
> > the only thing I have seen that is missing is the ability to edit
> > the headers after composing a mail message.
> > 
> > I can't get the newsreader to actually read any news, yet. Still
> > working with it.
> 
> You have to run the programm DIRSCAN.EXE first. This programm will
> create a database which is needed by NWREADER.EXE.
> 
>         Hannes
> 
> --
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> Berlin                |-------------------------------------------------
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        Test
From: the_sage@ncc1701e.uucp (Jerome Grimmer)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with NEWSdir
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:51:40 CDT
Organization: Trekkers Anonymous

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:
> 
> > We're having a little trouble with subdirectories created by UUXQT for the
> > NEWS-directory... somehow this is not very stable in DOS, and as a result w
> > often have many lost- en crosslinked clusters...
> 
> I'd say you've got some problems.. but I wouldn't blame Waffle for them.
> I've never had a lost cluster nor any crosslinked clusters in any file or
> directory associated with Waffle.  But, I don't use Stacker.
> 
> > I wonder: could this problem be solved by using a fake-volume for this news
> > directory... Just a file that pretents to be a drive ? (somewhat like a 
> > stacker-volume, but UNcompressed and very good at subdirectories etc.)..
> 
> Actually, the problem could be solved quite easily, by treating the cause.
> You've not shown the cause (Waffle is NOT the cause).  Unless, that is, the
> real answer is "Stacker."  (This is not a flame of stacker.  It is a weak
> defense of MS-DOS and Waffle.  Caveat emptor.)
> 

        I have seen similar things happen on rhps.uucp, who feeds my 
site.  However Waffle was not what corrupted his file system when he ran 
Norton Disk Doctor to fix it, I believe all but one of the corrupted 
files were corrupted WWIV stuff. Yeah yeah yeah, you probably think WWIV 
sucks but in this town you either run WWIV or you don't get users.  
That's why WWIV answers my front door, and besides, I don't want to waste 
my $50 registration fee for WWIV, and I even got source. :)


--
Jerome Grimmer <the_sage@ncc1701e.uucp>
11-Sep-92
From: rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: replies going to wrong address, vms list
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:09:20 PDT
Organization: Vandenberg Systems Research, Vancouver BC

sp@questor.UUCP (Steve Pershing) writes:

> Rick is probably busy with a lot of other things, but he did promise
> an update before this (now just past) summer, which would cure many
> little problems (like passing NeXTmail).
> 
> My solution is to make all replies read:  "Reply-To: poster"

The problem is featuritis.  I suffer from having too many ideas, and not
enough sense to stop adding them.  V-MailServer 2.0 will be released
"real soon now".  I'm still working on the install program and the
documentation.  I might drop the install, as there are now probably too
many options to deal with in a simple install program.

Of course, NextMail can now be passed with the headers untouched.

Rick

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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: RWMAIL Avail in US?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:54:02 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

walsh@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.p.walsh) writes:
>
> Are the files for RWMAIL(146 & 216) and NN271 available for
> FTP capture within the US?

I'm sorry! As we don't have FTP access we can't load it up to a FTP
server. You just can order it at 'mail-server@giraffe.in-berlin.de'.
There always are the newest versions of these programs. I think there
are also a couple of mail server within the USA but I don't know the
address.

        Hannes

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From: zot@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Chris Boebel)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Two Unrelated Waffle Questions
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:05:24 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)691-3865

I'd like to feed some sites mail and news. What's the best way to go 
about this? 

Some of my users have gone away to school but would still like to 
participate in the local discussions. Is there an email gateway available 
so I can send them the new messages via email and let them post locally 
also via email?

Thanks,
Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vspicer@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Subject: DRDOS 5.0 and 1.64
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:25:45 GMT

forgive if this has been beaten to death before but....

i'm having a small problem with DRDOS 5.0 and Waffle 1.64. yes i know
upgrade to 1.65 and DRDOS 6.0, but let's just pretend now....

the "cron" scheduling keeps spawning itself infinitely. once a cron event
comes up, waffle drops out and does the cron-thing called in RUN.BAT, but
when that finishes cron is called AGAIN because waffle still thinks the
event is pending. i have the usual:

:TOP
WAFFLE %1
...
IF ERRORLEVEL==60 GOTO CRON
...
..
:CRON
CALL CRON
GOTO TOP 

is there some simple fix for this?

thanks in advance
	vic spicer

------
vic spicer, recent PERL convert/ data systems,instrument electronics and
software person with the Time of Flight Mass Spec. Lab
at the University of Manitoba Dept. of Physics
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News readers for Waffle.
Summary: Got it to fly mostly...
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 00:13:51 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein) writes:

> All programms of Stefan (RWMAIL, NWREADER, DIRSCAN, EXPIRE) give you a
> help if you run them without any parameters. DIRSCAN will be started
> with the config file as parameter.
> 
> DIRSCAN x:\yyyy\nwreader.cfg
> 
> It will only use the first entry of the config file.

Thanks.  With this last bit of help, I have it flying now.  It's
early but works very much like RWMAIL.  I haven't got the posting
part to work yet (it can't find a file(s) after answering yes to
post)) but having the option to read by thread is wonderful.
That by itself is golden.  Subject/Author is rather nice too.

I will be running it in a Desqview window same as RWMAIL as an
additional method of reading news.

Great effort guys...Mike

--
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From: gabe@pfbbs.uucp (Gabe Helou)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Using STATS
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 10:15:52 CDT
Reply-To: gabe@angus.mi.org
Organization: The Permanent Floating BBS

steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:

> Perhaps I am missing something.  When I run STATS USAGE the totals I get
> are totally incorrect and never vary.
> 
> Waffle 1.65 Usage Summary for 05-Sep-92 19:03
> 
>     6   sbay.talk
> 		.
> 		.
> 		.
>     0   control
> 
> Any ideas?

STATS USAGE reports on the number of users JOINed to various groups.  This
sample looks correct to me.

--
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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News readers for Waffle.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:23:31 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
>
> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
> 
> > I was just wondering, has anyone thrown in a drop-in replacement for news 
> > reading in the DOS version of Waffle?  Would it be possible to get the 
> > source for say, 'trn', port it to DOS and use it under Waffle?  Would it 
> > be compatible?
> >
> > What about drop-in replacements for e-mail?  What benefits would I see 
> > over the internal mail (I am using 1.65 which seems to have a nicely 
> > powerful mail facility)?
> 
> Well, I got NN267B.ZIP from mailserv@batpad.lgb.ca.us and it has
> one program that is a NN newsread and another that is an NN mail
> reader. To run them from inside Waffle requires SHROOM and DOORWAY
> be used, tho I haven't gotten that far yet.

First of all: The correct release is NN271.ZOO. You can order it form
'mail-server@giraffe.in-berlin.de' by sending the following command:

GET modem/waffle/nn271.zoo

> I can get the mail reader to work from DOS, and aside from being
> a little slower than Waffle's mail, it is very functional. About
> the only thing I have seen that is missing is the ability to edit
> the headers after composing a mail message.
> 
> I can't get the newsreader to actually read any news, yet. Still
> working with it.

You have to run the programm DIRSCAN.EXE first. This programm will
create a database which is needed by NWREADER.EXE.

        Hannes

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Berlin                |-------------------------------------------------
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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: I/O redirect
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:01:38 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef) writes:

> A quick question:
> 
> I have some batch files that I envoke with CRON. In the schedule
> file I have the output redirected to logfiles.
> 
> 58  * * * * expire -t -k	> c:\waffle\admin\expire.log
> 58 14 * * * filelist		> c:\waffle\admin\filelist.log
> 58 10 * * * clean-up		> c:\waffle\admin\clean-up.log
> 

Try it as '>>' not just '>'


--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem angst
Keywords: Barf & Dribble.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:00:04 +1200
Distribution: World
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> system@inqmind.bison.mb.ca ( Sysop Entity) writes:
> 
> > I finally took the plunge and bought myself one of them new fangled 14.4 
> > Kbps modems with all those V.32s, V.42s and MNPs.  It is a BOCA modem, 
> > 
> > I am open to suggestions about what I can do to make this thing work 
> > better.  I am kind of disappointed so far.  I also have some problem with 
> > the modem not resetting after a normal BYE.  I had this problem with my 
> 
> You've run into a known problem with the Rockwell v.32bis chipset. The Boca
> isn't the only one that has problems. Supra, Practical Peripherals, and
> several others also use the same chipset. 
> The main problem is that it cannot handle noisy lines at all (or so Supra
> says). They are supposed to be coming out with an updated ROM to patch
> the problem in the chipset. I have even had problems connecting to another
> Supra. A friend of mine has the Boca and has the same problems. He's spoken
> to Boca tech support and they know about the problem but have no plans for
> a fix.

My supra will step down to 9600 or 12000 from 14.4k on a noisy connection.
My supra also WORKS with Waffle, and I get quite a few 14.4k callers, 9600,
and the usual 2400 crowd.  If anyone is having troubles with Supra and
Waffle, or Supra "resetting" instead of sending back "NO_CARRIER"/"BUSY" etc,
email me, and I'll give you a fix.

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From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: "Queued for Internet %-Route delivery"
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 01:32:26 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

What is the significance of that line?  I got it a moment ago in mail.
Just curious is all.  Never seen it before.


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From: Parker2@llnl.gov (Dave Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle as a door PCB 14.5
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:42:04 GMT

Hey any of you PCB sysops running Waffle as a door? I am just
starting to set it up and would like to hear from you. Any tips,
suggestions ect. would be very much appreciated, or even a test
drive on you BBS would be fun too.

Thanks
Dave
From: krc@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Waffle HELP!
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:34:23 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

My friend recently acquired a copy of Waffle v1.65, Penn State is willing to
give him a feed where he is at.  However the connection to the University is
7-E-1, will Usenet and UUCP still work?  If not is there any way around it
(besides having it set at 8-n-1 which the university switcher won't do).

Thanks in advance!

Keith Connors
krc@eclx.psu.edu
From: dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:52:53 GMT
Organization: I mistook my BBS for a hat

>> I just noticed a bounced email message, and tried to go into
>> the "orphan" folder via SYSMAIL to look at it. There was no
>> new mail, so I got the "To:" prompt. Exited, and tried SYSMAIL *
>> to get a list of folders. I got a list of my OWN folders, not
>> system's folders. Is there something I am overlooking here?

>I just asked about this last week.  Nobody has responded with an
>answer of how to do it with waffle.  A few mentioned dos tricks,
>but most don't seem to care about bounces.  I'll post my trick pretty
>soon.

If you want to look at the orphan messages, make sure a "system"
user exists, and send it at least 1 piece of mail. Then type SYSMAIL
followed by "g orphan". You are then in the orphan folder, if any.

I will make "sysmail *" work in a future rev, and I expect the
location of the "orphan" folder will be configurable. The fact that
"sysmail *" does anything at all is purely accidental. 

Also, I wasn't sure if I should be saving the original message or
the message with bounce text included. I opted for original message,
so that it could be forwarded without looking like a bounce. But
maybe with bounce text should be the correct solution.

...Tom

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: I/O redirect
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:35:35 GMT
Organization: The GRAFex Company

bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

> revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef) writes:
> 
> > A quick question:
> > 
> > I have some batch files that I envoke with CRON. In the schedule
> > file I have the output redirected to logfiles.
> > 
> > 58  * * * * expire -t -k	> c:\waffle\admin\expire.log
> > 58 14 * * * filelist		> c:\waffle\admin\filelist.log
> > 58 10 * * * clean-up		> c:\waffle\admin\clean-up.log
> > 
> 
> Try it as '>>' not just '>'

I have one modem register that begins with a backslash (\).  I have to
put a double backslash in my dialers file for waffle to see it.  Might
have the same effect here (untested).

Actually, I do much the same with my expiry.  I call it from a batch
file.  That way I can tweak it without fooling around with my schedule.

steve

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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to let users make group aliases?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 18:07:08 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) writes:

> How can users set up a group-type mail alias?  For example, a user
> wants to set up an alias to send to about 8 people, all of them
> off-site.  Together their addresses are far too long to fit on a single
> line in the user's ALIASES file.

You could set up a system alias that points to a file in the user's
directory, and let him maintain it.  But make sure the user knows what
he's doing, to avoid looping problems.
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From: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 22:40:57 PST
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> Why not just add the following lines to the end of your POLLing batch
> file?
> 
> if exist \user\system\orphan.f copy \user\system\orphan.* \user\{your dir}
> if exist \user\system\orphan.f del \user\system\orphan.*
> 
> This will move the orphan folder into your user directory where you
> can access it easily.

Because bounces from one poll will be overwritten by bounces from a 
later poll.  You need to append the files and re-index.

- Alan

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