HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:19:53 GMT

>>In article <BzB8AC.3pE@news.cso.uiuc.edu> erno@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ernest F.B. Pena) writes:
>>>Are these fonts public domain or shareware?

Various people have expressed skepticism about the public status of
these fonts because of their high quality.  I don't know the actual
status and have not downloaded the fonts, but that reason --
quality -- is a silly one to arouse such concern.

One of the best C compilers (GNU) is free.
Two of the best mail-readers (mh and elm) are free.
The two best newsreaders (nn and trn) are free.
Top-notch versions of most Unix-originated utilities (GNU) are free.
Much powerful image-conversion and compression software is free.
Some of the best communications software is free.
Some of the best interpreted languages (perl) are free.

I'll refrain from overgeneralizing from this or getting preachy,
but certainly higher-than-normal quality would seem to suggest that
the software is free, rather than the reverse.
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From: danm@gorgatron ()
Subject: Scanner Problems!!
Organization:  PINNACLE Research
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:44:54 GMT

I am trying to get a Microtek Scanmaker II to work with my ColorStation
When trying this I have recieved this set of error messages:

2 lun 0
Dec 13 19:16:32 gorgatron mach: sc: MESSAGE REJECT RECEIVED
Dec 13 19:16:32 gorgatron mach: s1 (6,1): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:10 scsi status:0x0
Dec 13 19:16:32 gorgatron mach: sc: MESSAGE REJECT RECEIVED
Dec 13 19:16:32 gorgatron mach: s1 (6,1): ERROR op:0x12 sd_state:10 scsi 

Has anyone else fixed this sort of problem with a scanner or other SCSI
device?

Thanks ahead for any ideas!

ciao

  Dan M.

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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: (Not RTF) NeXTSTEP award
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:21:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.161514.293@pelane.cubx.com> noyau@pelane.cubx.com   
(Eric Noyau) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Dec9.030721.2238@dtint.uucp> nevin@dtint.dtint.com  
writes:
> > [deleted]
> > --
> > Nevin Pratt, Digital Technology, Int'l    Orem, Ut
> > NeXTmail preferred, but ONLY at my REAL email address:  
> nevin@dtint.dtint.com
> > 
> > 
> Nice but... Font problem !! It's not Helvetica nor Times
> nor Courrier nor   Olfs... I can't read that.
> 
> It's big and unreadable ! You loose... ;-))  

Well, if you have Illustrator, just change the extension
to .ai, open it up and change the fonts...worked for me! 

Gordon
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From: alvin@arapaho.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT on CNN
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:22:38 GMT
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
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Ola netters!

  Yet another NeXT machine shines in the television spot light.
Ok, so the light was kinda dim..anyways...

  CNN had a special report on -ahem- counterfeiting checks. Well, they
had an example where an outside person created a CNN check complete
with the company logo and all. In the background, they had the machines
that they worked on. Of course, they had a Mac in there, but right next to
it was a MegaPixel monitor and keyboard. Hmm.. more NeXT's being
put to good use?


Alvin Jee
alvin@cse.ucsc.edu
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Emacs3.0 on a standalone
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:06:10 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
In-reply-to: citdem@VIOLET.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU's message of 16 Dec 92 01:46:32 GMT

>>>>> "citdem" == citdem  <citdem@VIOLET.CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU> writes:

citdem> I have a standalone NeXTcube. I have SLIP (the daemon is installed in the
citdem> boot process; but the SLIP connection is brought up manually only when
citdem> needed).  I have Emacs3.0.  BUT; Emacs3.0 (and prior versions) always
citdem> displays a "unknown host "(my host name)"" message in the minibuffer
citdem> when I start it.  The mouse cannot be used to control the cursor.  The
citdem> menu FILE and EDIT options do nothing.  All other .apps work just fine.
citdem> So what's wrong here?

This problem is the same one that people have been discussing w.r.t.
rendering. If you have renamed your standalone next, e.g. with the
Local... panel in HostManager.app, you must add an appropriate alias,
which you can do by Opening localhost in HostManager.app. I don't know
if that still holds with SLIP, but for a purely standalone NeXT this works.

--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 01:55:46 CST
From: <U54876@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT Music software???
 <1992Dec9.171814.14971@infodev.cam.ac.uk> <Bz61Cn.MFr@spock.dis.cccd.edu>

Hello -

  Came in late to this thread, but just wanted to offer some old information.
In the premiere issue of NeXTWORLD there was a three page article about CCRMA
and their use of NeXT's.  A small section of that article described "Nutation",
 by Glendon Diener (a CCRMA grad student).  For those of you who don't have acc
ess to that copy of NeXTWORLD, I will transcribe some of the description:

"Diener has created a music notation program that he calls Nutation...Basically
, Nutation is an object-oriented visual programming language with which compose
rs can write musical scores in an hierarchical, or layered, fashion....With
Nutation, the composer can layer the elements, or objects, of a score (the staf
f, clef, notes, and so on) on top of one another...The flexibility of a hierarc
hical structure allows a composer to more easily shift or duplicate individual
objects or groups of objects in a musical score.  At the same time, it allows t
he NeXT computer to immediately play any part of the emerging composition."
-Article by Laura Fredrickson & Thierry Castro  NeXTWORLD vol 1 no 1

I have no idea if this application is extant or, if it is, if CCRMA is still ma
intaining it.  Just thought I'd post the info.

-Tom Nawara
 ideaLabs
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From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Swapfile compression
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 22:42:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.105725.27197@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>  
dan@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Daniel Shelton) writes:
> What is the advantage to having this swapfile compression?  Does it  
reduce
> the amount of swapping that is done to disk?  Having an extra 16MB in  
disk
> space gone just like that is not good unless the returns are  
exceptional.

It's not *extra* diskspace (if I read your intention correctly).   
swapfile.front is just a view onto swapfile; the only file that occupies  
real disk space is swapfile.

Apart from that, I'd would also like to know what good turning it on will  
do.  I find it hard to be convinced that compressing (which takes time) a  
swapfile (which MUST be fast) is a good idea.

Paul
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From: ob@obh.in-berlin.de (Oliver Brandmueller)
Subject: 030 and 040 NeXT together
Organization: obh - private bbs in Berlin/Germany
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 10:45:39 GMT

Hi,

while I have the cance to get an 030-Cube-Motherboard I thought, if it
was possible to use it as a diskless station. I want to boot it from
my 040-Slab (2.1) and just use it as a second UNIX box.

My question: Do I need another kernel and/or other binaries for the
030-NeXT? That could be a problem (running out of diskspace or out
of money...).

Bye, Olli


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From: wjs@blorf.omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Subject: Explanation- Re: Lack of color brilliance in GIF pictures?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:48:48 GMT

Florian Gutzwiller writes
> If I compare the color brillance of GIF prictures on a NeXT 16bit system 
> and a Sun 8 bit display the Sun is much more brillant. This is not a 
> monitor problem for sure. I'm using ImageViewer. 

Assuming that the Sun has 8-bit graphics that use a Color Look-Up Table (CLUT)  
to map to 24-bit color values, it's no surprise that GIF images look better on  
the Sun.

Basically, the NeXTstation color has 12-bit color, where these twelve bits  
actually represent the Red, Green, and Blue components at each pixel (4 bits  
apiece).  This is called true color.  This gives your NSC the ability to  
simultaneously display 4096 different colors from a palette of 4096 possible  
colors.

The Sun has 8-bit color, but those 8 bits are just used as an offset into a  
table of 256 colors, where each color in the table has 24 bits.  This is called  
indexed color.  Thus on the Sun you have the ability to simultaneously display  
256 different colors from a palette of 16,777,216 possible.

GIF files, as it happens, are stored the way the Sun displays images; ie each  
pixel is just an 8-bit index into a table of 256 24-bit colors.

When you display a GIF on an NSC, the 24-bit colors in the file must be  
approximated with 4096 colors the NSC has available.  So, obviously, when you  
have an image that can have a subset of 16 million distinct colors, and you try  
to display it on a monitor that can only show a subset of 4096 distinct colors,  
the image is going to look a little washed out.

When you display the GIF on the Sun, the Sun just sets its Color Look-Up Table  
to be the 256 colors in the GIF file, and VOILA you're displaying the original  
24-bit color values that are actually in the file.

Well, great, you say, why does anyone bother with this true color junk when  
indexed color gives you so many more colors?  Well, it doesn't, really.   
Indexed color gives you a nice large palette of colors, but you have to pick  
your 256 favorite of them.

Thus, images without a lot of different colors in them look great in indexed  
formats (like GIF), since you can have a lot more shades of the same color.   
Images with a lot of different colors will probably look better in true color,  
since you have the ability to display more different colors, even if the  
palette you are choosing from is smaller.

-William Shipley
The Omni Group
DBKit consulting, and now 3.0 image filtering

PS: PostScript also gives you dithering, which allows you to simulate having  
more colors by drawing two (or more) colors right beside each other and  
trusting your eye to blur them together as if they were one pixel.  Thus, if  
your GIFs look washed out, one solution is to magnify them and back away from  
your monitor.  (Another would be to buy a 24-bit true color board, like the  
NeXTdimension, but the former seems cheaper.)
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From: d89cb@efd.lth.se (Christian Brunschen)
Subject: Re: NRW- coming soon
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:01:31 GMT

In article <1gitslINNnat@gap.caltech.edu> ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar) writes:
>In article <1giql5INNo5@hamblin.math.byu.edu> bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill  
>Smith) writes:
>> Well, I'll pass another rumor on from a friend.  While the
>> 88110-flavor box has been dropped, another design based
>> on it appears to be the version they will release.  It has
>> a multiprocessing feature with plug-in sites for several
>> cpu's, you just have another plugged in if you want it.  The
>> alpha is not going to be the chip they use, it will also
>> not be P5. No waiting for 68060 either.  Not R4000-etc.
>> Not Sparc.  Not IBM.  Want to take a guess what's driving
>> it? 
>
>What does that leave?
>
>HP PA-RISC is the obvious answer.  It's fast, cheap, has a good rep, and might  
>pave the way for a NeXTSTEP port to Snakes.
>
>I suppose something exotic like an AMD is conceivable, but much less likely.
>Would you dare to speculate on *when*?
>

Not a rumor, not even speculation, not even a wish ... just a remote
possibillity ... since multi-processing is supposed to be one of the
great things about Mach, why not use the one processor that was
designed specifically _for_ multiprocessing ? I am talkingabout the
Inmos transputers -- the T9000, or whatever their latest design is
called ... I think even a machine with a couple or 4 of the (now a
couple of years old) T-800:s would be pretty sexy, and then NeXT could
boast about having not only the best UI, but also the only
multi-processor-box for home use ...

Besides, the transputers are not on the above list of processors they
didn't go with so ... maybe my wild shot actually hit a pheasant ? :)

>
>- Ernie P.
>
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From: chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu (Chuck Waltrip)
Subject: Re: No FrameMaker 4.0 for NeXT?
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:30:02 GMT

In article <Dec10.153847.46125@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>  
randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall) writes:
> In article <1992Dec10.131915.27684@glv.uucp> jcelam@confused (James  
Clifton  
> Elam) writes:
> > In article <1992Dec10.091630.17938@fokus.gmd.de>  
kho@hubble.fokus.gmd.de  
> (Klaus  
> > Hofrichter) writes:
> > > 
> > > But the real bad thing: The distributor told me that there will be  
NO  
> > > FrameMaker 4.0 port for NeXT. Can someone confirm this? 
> > > 
> > 
> This would be an absolute disaster for me. Can someone at Frame and / or  
NeXT  
> straighten this out quickly? Is Frame dropping support for NeXT or not?

	We'd find this pretty disturbing as well.  We have Frame on 	 
	several platforms but people queue up to use it on the NeXT.

c.f.waltrip
Opinions expressed are my own.
Email:	<chuck@nighthawk.jhuapl.edu>
From: sailer@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Lee Sailer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Why, Why, WHYYYY?? USE OBJECTIVE-C for IB??
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:37:35 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Matthew Dillon (dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US) wrote:
: In article <Bz5x32.80A@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> sailer@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Lee Sailer) writes:
: >jake@skatter.usask.ca wrote:
: >: From article <1fg7kqINNi29@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, by isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell):
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > What Edit needs is emacs' CM-b and CM-f functionality to conveniently jump to
: >: > the start and end of a bracketed clause so that those starting brackets can be
: >: > easily inserted.
: >: > --
: >: >
: >: > Art Isbell 						     Cubic Solutions
: >:  What Edit needs is to be able to interpret elisp.
: >:
: >: jake
: >:
: >: --
: >
: >What NeXTstep needs is an independent USER AGENT object that sits outside
: >of any and all programs, accepts commands in some suitable language, and
: >executes them.  If the language happened to be elisp, then that set of
: >capabilities could be extracted from emacs.  Emacs could still use it to
: >work exacctly the way it works now.  Edit could use it.  NeXTMail could
: >use it.  All god's chillun could use it.
: >
: >   USER AGENT	USER AGENT  USER AGENT	USER AGENT  USER AGENT	USER AGENT
: 
:     REXX REXX REXX REXX REXX REXX ...
: 
Matt is quite correct that the Amiga implementation of REXX would be
a good model of what I called a USER AGENT.  I must point out that Amiga
REXX can do things that IBM Mainframe REXX cannot dream of.

However, I want NeXTstep to go one step further.  The main problem with
REXX in 1992 is that it offers yet-another-syntax to learn.  Instead
of REXX, I'd prefer an end-user oriented visual programming language
that incorporates Unix shell functionality, REXX functionality, elisp
functionality, and NeXTstep idioms in a general way.

NO, I do not mean a language that allows REXX, elisp, shell syntax, etc.,
just that if it can be done it is clear how to do it in USER AGENT.


-- 
Lee Sailer

					- Let's leave my employer
					  out of this, OK?
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From: swiet@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Alexander Swietlicki)
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:35:04 GMT

In article <92352.110046NLF102@psuvm.psu.edu> <NLF102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>  I've read all the posts on the NeXT RISC workstation and the rumor of the
>new processor that NeXT wants to use.  I have come to this conclusion:
>  The chip should:
>    1.  Be available from multiple vendors.
>    2.  Be fast enough to replace the DSP and compression chips.

	Why lose the DSP?  Why bog down the CPU with all those other
functions?  Have chips for sound, compression, graphics/PostScript, etc.
Running ScorePlayer and BackSpace works nicely.  Running ModPlayer and
BackSpace doesn't.  Add compression to that and watch the system halt --
I don't care how fast the processor is...it will happen.
	Take a look at the Amiga.  By not loading down the CPU, it's able
to make a 68000 look as fast as a 68040 when doing it's fancy graphics/
sound demos...
	BTW...I think the DSP would be best left for other applications,
and another processor be used for sound.  Hell...the Apple IIgs had that
Ensoniq chip...

	Alex
From: alex@laos (Alex D. Nghiem)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: App to preview fonts without installing them.
Keywords: fonts, installation
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:51:29 GMT
Reply-To: alex@pencom.com
Organization: Pencom Software

Hello there:

I hope this is something which I'm overlooking but how do I install fonts?   
I've downloaded some of them from sonata, but everytime I try to do a  
buildafmdir in the directory, I get:

	buildafmdir: couldn't create lock file

Can someone tell me what this error is?  I've tried to RTFM but I couldn't find  
anything.

Please e-mail me and I'll summarize, if there's any interest.



Best regards,


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In article <tlm.724295987@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Tom Marchioro)  
writes:
> In <1992Dec13.114133.18500@mic.ucla.edu> iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)  
writes:
> 
> 
> >[1] Is there an  application that would  allow me to preview fonts  without
> >having to install them first?
> 
> >	<further>
> 
> You can do this with Yap.  First, load the outline file into Yap, then
> give the following commands (assuming the font is, say, Western, substitute
> the proper name)
> 
> /Western findfont 
> 48 scalefont
> setfont 
> 72 200 moveto
> (here is some text) show
> showpage
> 
> 
> this will cause "here is some text" to appear at 48 point in Yaps window
> (after you hit the Execute button of course).  This is also a good trick 
> for checking out a font in case you get the ubiquitous "Unusable Font"
> error message, which can be caused by all sorts of things.  Use this to 
> make sure that the outline file is okay. (i.e. if the font shows properly
> this way then the problme is usually with the .afm file instead).  
> 
> >[2] Is there a way to  store fonts I use once  a year in a lower-level font
> >chooser?
> 
> 
> Yes, at least for all of the PD and shareware fonts (particularly those
> made with the conversion tools from the Mac).  I figured this out some 
> months ago and have been meanign to post it.  Will write it up and post
> here later tonight under the subject "Helpful Font Panel Trick"
> 
> >[3] Are there other good monospaced fonts that work with  Terminal, Stuart,
> >etc.?
> 
> 
> Personally I think Ohlfs is the nicest ofthe bunch (basically because it's
> Courier "tuned" to the NeXT screen), but I've not yet seen the font Don 
> Yackman (sp?) recently posted to sonata.
> 
> 
> Hope this is helpful --- Tom
From: cpl1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Corey Liss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SAS for NeXT
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:30:45 GMT
Reply-To: cpl1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Lunatic Fringe


Is there any word on whether SAS is developing a version for NeXT?


keeping it short...

-Corey Liss
cpl1@midway.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: emacs-18.59 pkg for NeXT posted
To: michael@stb.info.com (Michael Gersten)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:05:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.025955.13216@stb.info.com> michael@stb.info.com (Michael Gersten) writes:
   cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles William Swiger) writes:
   >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 2-Nov-92 Re: emacs-18.59 pkg
   >for NeX.. by Stephen Anderson@sapir.c 
   >> It's been pointed out to me that the Emacs front end to emacs has the
   >> path /usr/bin/emacs built in as the place to find an emacs executable.
   >> This gives you (at least) three choices if you want to use it as a
   >
   >or (d) Rewrite EtermView.m to look for /usr/local/bin/emacs and then
   >/usr/bin/emacs; better yet, have it search through current users' search
   >path for 'emacs'....

   Or, better still, why not use the "system" call and let the shell find it,
   or use "execvp/execlp" library calls (the 'p' means search the entire path)?
   I'm suprised that more people don't use these.

Why not system(3) ? Because it has a ton of overhead and may do things
you don't want it to do. You should only use it for shell escapes in
you programs and those are fast becoming an anachronism in the age of
job control and security concerns. Why not execvp/execlp(3) ? Because
a user may have several versions of emacs on his system and and the
first one in his default path is not the one he wants to use with
Emacs and setting environment variables is notoriously painful for
Workspace launched applications.

Emacs 3.0 Does The Right Thing and allows you to set the path to the
emacs executable in the preferences. Maybe NeXT should start shipping
it with the OS.

        Carl Edman
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