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Subject: XT MFM HD controller info?
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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From:     TM03%SWTEXAS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu
Subject:  Mach question
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:15:00 GMT

I have been a faithful reader/contributor to this group for
4 years and will continue to follow it since I teach OS and
use Minix as the example OS. However, AST's new text and the
discussion on microkernels has led me to think about switching
to mach at some point in the future.  At the moment I have
access only to BITNET (and this group) but I will soon be
able to have internet access.  MY questions (please answer
directly to me)

1. Is there a discusssion group on mach?
2. Is there available a low cost version of mach for 386/486
   that can be used for instructional purposes?

thanks in advance

tom mccabe
tm03@swtexas.bitnet

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Subject: XT MFM HD controller info?
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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Subject: Re: OS compare (Unix/clone)
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In article <1992Jul29.172406.29587@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
 torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>
>Having several different code/date-segments doesn't lend itself very
>well to high-level languages (it doesn't even work too well in assembly,
>but there the programmer often knows what he/she is doing).  Thus
>coherent 3.2 and minix don't even try: they keep to one segment, and
>limit all data to 64kB.  You can do a lot in 64kB, but I'd rather miss
>the experience.
>
     
I hate to say it - but back in the old PDP11 days they had overlays.
And learned to like them.
     
And we walked 50 miles to school, uphill, and we didn't have shoes then...
8-)
     
There is some satisfaction in shoehorning the most functionality in to
the smallest space.  The amazing fact that a PDP11 could multitask
with the same 64k of memory that ran CP/M was amazing to me.
     
I grew up with PDP11's and love the fact that RT11 can run foreground
and background tasks (up to 15 background tasks) in a machine with only
64kb of real memory is a fact that some people that haven't had to live
with those restrictions don't understand.
     
Unfortunately, you can't run X in that space, or NFS... Perhaps TCP/IP
though...
     
Bill
     
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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Subject: Re: OS compare (Unix/clone)

On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:48:17 GMT, kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth) said:

Ken> In article <PETRI.VIRKKULA.92Jul27231025@vipunen.hut.fi>
 Petri.Virkkula@hut.fi (Petri Virkkula) writes:

Ken> The 286 has does not have flat addressing.  It is still segmented.  Also,
Ken> it does not support virtual memory directly (although, one could probably
Ken> do it in software).  The 286 does have some memory protection, and does
Ken> have protection levels for some instructions.

Ken> Ken Friberg


	Haven't I understood something correctly? Isn't it possible to
	swap segments to disk using Valid and Accessed flags in
	segment descriptors?

	Petri

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From: howie@voodoo.boeing.com (howie)
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Subject: MINIX 1.5 For Sale.
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:19:04 GMT
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA

In perfect condition...Like new (only cheaper).

I've run MINIX from floppies a few times but never loaded it onto my hard 
drive.  We just bought a new house, and I really don't have the time
or inclination to mess with it.

Selling Price:  $50.00  (plus shipping if necessary)

e-mail if interested

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From: dmak@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Dave Mak)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: What shell can be installed on 286AT?
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:08:07 GMT
Reply-To: dmak@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University

To: 
In article <1992Jul21.020308.14780@udel.edu> dennis@solar.csie.ntu.edu.tw (Dennis Cheng-Zen Yang) writes:

	   Is there a shell better than sh which can be installed on 286 ?
   Or I only ought to patch sh to having alias, history and cmd line editing ?
   I, a Minix beginner, need your hacker's notes.

   Dennis
   dennis@solar.csie.ntu.edu.tw
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For a C-Shell (csh) type shell, you might try Clam-16 (for non386 MINIX)
available off plains.nodak.edu.

As I understand it, you can't compile the source with the MINIX 1.5 cc/asld
tools so they're available in MINIX binary format (compressed).

-Dave Mak
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From: martinm@DMI.USherb.CA (Michel Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Problem with the hard disk on a PS2/30-286
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:25:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: DMI.BruLHp.DLz
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique

I am presently trying to install Minix 1.5 on a PS2/30-286.

My problem is that I can't read the hard disk.  I have already try the
option mentioned on page 11 of the installation manual (-DPS30_286)
and it is'nt working.

What should I do now??  Should I recompile the kernel ??

Thank you in advance for your help,

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Michel Martin
Departement de mathematique et d'informatique
Universite de Sherbrooke, Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada, J1K 2R1
email: Michel.Martin@DMI.USherb.CA