From: hekunze@jeeves.waterloo.edu (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: Hogan vs. Sid Main 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:09:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.190115.17031@physics.ucla.edu>, price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes:
> In article <1992Apr7.150411.19663@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, hekunze@jeeves.waterloo.edu (Herb Kunze) writes:
> >  They did what, on paper, could have been the best match of the show
> >  first (Michaels-Santana), and that was not very good.  As is usual
> >  with the WWF, the post-PPV memories are of things that happened outside
> >  of the context of the wrestling matches.  Paul Ellering's appearance,
> >  UW's appearance, and Flair kissing Liz to keep the vengeance angle
> >  alive.
> I agree with Herb.  After watching WM, I had the sense that I had been 
> cheated.  I thought the best match on the card was the Piper-Hart match, 
> but it could have been a lot better than it was.
> 
> So, Herb, how's it feel to find out that you think like a mark?

  But I don't, John.

  Just because my dissatisfaction with one event coincides with an
  admited marks' dissatisfaction with the same event doesn't mean
  anything.  

  Hell, we're probably dissatified for different reasons.  Here's
  an original posting format (;-)):

  Marks were dissatisfied with WrestleMania because:
      (i) The Sheepwhackers' match wasn't aired on PPV
     (ii) Skinner is now no longer undefeated for all intents and
          purposes
    (iii) Bret "the excellence of execution" Hart and Roddy Piper 
          didn't have the super match they could have
     (iv) They thought that the Natural Disasters were the tag
          champs since their hands were raised in victory
      (v) Sid Justice kicked out of Hulk Hogan's Leg Drop 
     (vi) The Ultimate Warrior seems to have gone on the Ultimate
          Slim(-Jim-)Fast Diet or maybe even was replaced by Kerry
          von Erich.
    (vii) There weren't enough celebrity guests

  Smart fans were dissatisfied with WrestleMania because:
      (i) The Michaels-Santana and the Flair-Savage matches were both
          wrestling let-downs and we didn't have sense enough to
          expect them to be bad matches 
     (ii) Nothing happened.  There are no wrestling-related memories
          from the show -- usually a WWF show leaves us with at least
          one wrestling memory out of the 3 hours of pap
    (iii) Marks still believe that Bret Hart and Roddy Piper are superb
          wrestlers, when the evidence doesn't really support the 
          conclusion.  Piper used to be medium-skilled and is now
          a sad shadow of himself.  Bret's reputation comes more
          from Gorilla Monsoon repeating "excellence of execution"
          than it comes from worthiness.
     (iv) Vince actually booked a walk-out finish for the tag title
          match
      (v) Sid and Hogan had a match against each other and there was
          no hope of anything worthwhile happening in it
     (vi) The Ultimate Warrior is back     
    (vii) Vince still manages to find celebrities who are desperate
          enough to work a spot on his show

  So, you see, we can both be dissatisfied with the show, John, but
  for completely different reasons.  

                                                           Herb...