From: TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Sell Out!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:22:42 GMT
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Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov5.070220.19422@nmsu.edu>, wbeakley@dante.nmsu.edu (BEAKLEY)
says:

>Let me start off by saying that Metallica is a much more matured, much
>more talented, and much more experienced band than it was when it started
>out.  But just because it's changed, does that mean it's bad?  When they

Well, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I didn't think the change was
particularly "bad", I just didn't like it at first.  I think their latest LP
would be a lot better if it were about three songs shorter.  But then again,
I'd say the same thing about AJFA...except that the songs on there are so long
that you'd need only to remove two.  I get tired of "Metallica" about 2/3 of
the way through because they have too much of that changed style and not enough
musical diversity throughout the album.  I still like it as a whole, but it
just doesn't do what MOP or RTL can do for me.

>Actually, The Unforgiven *IS* a deep song.  You might actually want to
>give some thought as to what the lyrics mean.  Kirk *IS* an awesome

Yes, this is one of my favorites just because it's deep and emotional.  But I
like One for the same reason, as do I like Fade To Black.  But I like their
fast stuff too, but for different reasons.  If they only wrote songs that
required an eight-armed spider like Lars to play, they'd get dull, no matter
how fast they played.

>How do I put this to you in terms you're going to understand?  CLIFF IS
>DEAD!!!

Yes, he is.  And it's stupid to keep saying "Cliff wouldn't have approved" or
"Cliff wouldn't have written that kind of sell-out shit", etc.  Cliff was
awesome, but he's gone.  Quit second-guessing what might have become of Metall-
ica if he hadn't been killed.  For all we know, he could've REALLY made a sell-
out album, more of a "sell-out" than some of us consider the new one.  Or maybe
he wouldn't have.  Who are any of us to say?  And Jason ain't all that bad.  He
definately can't play the bass intro to For Whom..., but he ain't bad and I
really don't think he can be blamed for Metallica's "mellowing".

>                                          Hell, for all we know, the next
>album might be nothing but instrumental ballads!  (that IS a joke)

Well, if they did, it would probably be some of the best instrumental stuff
to ever come out from such a group.  8-)

>If you don't like the black album, then you don't have to listen to it!
>Personally, I think "Nothing else matters" is one of the shittiest songs
>Metallica's ever done.  Why?  Because Metallica just isn't a band that
>does songs about love.  IMO it would have been an incredible song if it
>had been done entirely acoustic.  But that doesn't mean MUSICALLY it's
>not a superb piece of work.

Hold on for a second.  I interpret NEM as a song about being open-minded and
saying "fuck it" if people don't like what you do.  I don't think they meant it
to be a typical "love ballad".  Look at the song as being about the band, not
about two people in love.  "Never opened my heart this way...Trust I seek and I
find in you...Everyday for us something new...open mind for a different view...
and nothing else matters...never care for what they say..etc, etc."  I mean, it
COULD be about love, but it makes me feel better to think that it's about the
band or something like that.  (No flames, please, this is just a personal inter
pretation.)

>have its bad songs as well.  I hate to tell you this, but not every
>Metallica song is great.  Yeah, there are the classics:  "Creeping Death"
>(which is fucking awesome live), "Master of Puppets", and countless
>others, but that doesn't mean that they haven't had their share of lame
>songs as well:  "Escape", "The Thing that Should Not Be", and "Shortest
>Straw".

Don't forget Harvester of Sorrow.  That one just keeps going, and going, and
going (where's the rabbit???)

-Bill

"BURRP...ha, ha, ha...I fucked up...in one place..."  -MetallicA
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