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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Animation Scripting Language
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 26 Sep 92 05:25:03 GMT

faraghec@cognos.com (Chad Faragher) writes:
 >I am developing under Borland C++ for a 386.  If you have ever seen a PoV
 >modelling datafile, that's what I'm looking for, only for animation.
 >I would like to be able to specify the animation information algorithmically.
 >I could never remember my animation specs, so I need a language--one that will
 >be versatile enough to accommodate changes or additions in its definition
 >as I add functionality to the program.

Earlier this year, we developed a language which could be added to
any text scene description, allowing it to change over time.  (ie. you
add things to the original scene description, feed it into a program,
and get back lots of scene descriptions for individual frames).

The language is independent of the scene description language, and
is specifically meant to do the kind of things you describe.  (A longer
description in Swish: A Language for Animating Scene Descriptions,
S. Hopwood, K. Suffern, I. Sinclair, proceedings of CGA '92.)  Time
to make the source available, I suppose.  :-)


--
 Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation
From: webbs@CS.ColoState.EDU (Steven Webb (The walking glitch))
Subject: Is there another discussion group for Studio 3D?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:53:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University - Computer Science Dept.

	I was wondering if there is another discussion group that's more
	fine-tuned for Autodesk's 3D Studio usage?  I'm a recent convert from
	the Amiga, and I'm used to the Imagine mailing list.  Is there a
	mailing list for the 3D Studio?  

	Also, are there programs to convert the .3ds files to other formats
	somewhere?  And how do we get drivers for other resolutions?  I have
	a Trident Card, but not the right one to use the special Trident
	SVGA driver included.

	Thanks!  -- Steven Webb

	p.s.  I'm using the old version, not 2.0  8(
From: neil@celia.UUCP (Neil Richmond)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: Computer to Videotape / Unix Exabyte
Keywords: exabyte, single frame recording, videotape
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:19:09 GMT
Reply-To: celia!neil@usc.edu (Neil Richmond)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

>katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago) writes:
>
>>   That said, using Exebyte/Abekas 8mm backup tapes is one of the best
>>and most reliable ways to put an animation to videotape.
>

Chris and All Interested Viewers,

I was informed the other day that Photoshop has a module that allows writing
Abekas format frames to exabyte.

neil

-- 
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From: desilva@taos.ced.berkeley.edu (Deanan Da Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: Abekas A60 Digital Disk Recorder, opinions, alternatives?
Date: 6 Oct 1992 03:13:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: taos.ced.berkeley.edu

Could you please post on how to put an animation to exabyte
or dat tape and then take it to a bureau. Also, does anybody know of
any places in the SF bay area that does this?

Thanks,

Deanan
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation
From: dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca (Anarchy for Peace)
Subject: Re: RaySHade 4.0 and Amiga
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 03:10:33 GMT

In article <1affbeINNoqj@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown) writes:
>
>ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm) writes:
>
..innocent question deleted which got the attention of the porter... (namely me)
>
>Using an Amiga. heh, heh, heh.

This was totally uncalled for...this is supposed to be a "neutral" group

>
>But seriously folks:
>
>try using a different compiler

I used GCC 2.2.2

>try includeing "longjmp.h".
>try seeing if there's an equivalent file that needs to be included.
>
>"a message about longjmp" is not very specific, however. when asking for
>help, always give THE EXACT ERROR MESSAGE!

The guy using it is probably not a programmer.  The main point I see is that
he got my attention, I addressed his problem (hopefully solving it). It's
over with.  Now before you start mouthing off, how about using a little
FORETHOUGHT....


Colin DeWolfe
dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca

P.S.  Don't even bother following up, I have better stuff to read, but
I did have to get this off my chest.
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation
From: umduddr0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brendan Duddridge)
Subject: Alias Sketch 1.5
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:34:26 GMT

Hi.  Does anyone have any info on the newly released Alias Sketch 1.5
for the Macintosh?  I have the previous version and I am wondering
what's in the new version.  Any idea on upgrade prices?


Thanks..

-- 
Brendan Duddridge
InterNet        : umduddr0@ccu.umanitoba.ca
America Online  : BrendanD1
From: uswg@mcl.ucsb.edu (Tom Servo)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: Pixar stuf
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:35:09 GMT

In <BvH4xx.G1E@cs.dal.ca> dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca (Anarchy for Peace) writes:

>In article <Oct.1.16.52.40.1992.26927@athos.rutgers.edu> trudel@athos.rutgers.edu (Jonathan) writes:
>>kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>>
>>>I hope that "room full of amigas" thing was a joke.
>>
>>Probably not - just ask them about Red's Dream...

>Ahhhhh. :)  I know of what you speak.  Remember the SIGGRAPH...:)
>If I remember correctly, Pixar was not too pleased. :)

>Colin DeWolfe
>
dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca



Would you care to elaborate on this, for those of use who WEREN'T at 
SIGGRAPH?
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: 3D Studio..What is issue?
From: djlewis@ualr.edu
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:43:21 GMT
 <1992Sep29.091851.1@tesla.njit.edu> <1aae9iINNbl8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <1aae9iINNbl8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, pustule@cats.ucsc.edu (Thaddeus H. Wood) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep29.091851.1@tesla.njit.edu> kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.033616.4125@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, studer@physics.su.OZ.AU (Andrew Studer) writes:
>>> 
>>> Don't want to be a spoilsport here, but what's wrong with the documentation
>>> that comes with the package? I have no trouble following the tutorials,
>>> it's reasonably complete, it's possibly the easiest to follow documentation
>>> AutoDesk's produced. Wherein lies the problem?
>>> 
>>> Andrew Studer... studer@physics.su.oz.au
>>> "John Hewson is a vacuum that other vacuums abhor"- Andrew Denton
>>
>>I think we all know what Andrew is implying...I agree. ;-)
> 
> Well, regardless of what is implied, I personally disagree.  I have
> access to a legitimate copy, with manuals and all, yet find them
> lacking in certain respects.  Besides, you might say the same thing
> for the Autocad manuals, and we certainly find that there are dozens
> and dozens of books for that.  So, does anybody know the answer to 
> the question?  Instead of judging people for wanting a book on how
> to use 3DS.  And yeah, maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed
> this morning.  Where's my coca cola? :)
> 
> --
> Thad
I find that for myself that when I like a program No matter how well the
original documentation is written that it generally lacks in some area
which is important to me. For this case, as well as others, I prefer to
buy well written books by other authors. This allows me to see another
perspective on the subject therefore further clarifying that information
which was difficult to grasp in the first place.
	Just my own opinion,
Don
djlewis@spider.edu

From: mitcha@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Mitch Abrams)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:03:25 GMT
Subject: Re: AutoDesk Animator
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.animation

I'm just a little confused, Do you refer to Autodesk 3D Studio, Animator,
or Animator Pro. 

All three will let you save your still (frame) images as gifs (256 color).

3D Studio adds storage as 24 bit Targa files.

Good Luck,

Mitch

Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: honor@athena.mit.edu (Andrew John Cassidy)
Subject: Re: graphics
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:35:15 GMT

In article <90557@netnews.upenn.edu> mian@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Faisal I. Mian) writes:

   hi,
     I taking a graduate course in computer graphics and am looking on a
   good book that discusses coding different algorithms in C , for example
   drawing ploygons, circles and then filling them with different colors.
   These are some of the basic stuff but I would like a book that is easy
   to understand for a beginner.
   If you know of any book, please send mail
   thankx in advance,
   mian@pender.ee.upenn.edu

Hi,

The undergrad course here at MIT uses the following text:

	Computer Graphics, Principles and Practice, 2nd ed.
	by Foley, vanDam, Feiner, and Hughes.

Our supplemental texts are:

	Mathematical Elements for Computer Graphics,
	by Rogers and Adams, and 

	Principles of Interactive Computer Graphics,
	by Newman and Sproull.

I've only looked through the first, but it is good.  Hope this helps,

--
--andrew cassidy
  honor@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: cortisol@student.business.uwo.ca (Joel Hinderle)
Subject: Graphics Hardware Information
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:58:41 GMT

     Hi there, I'm a student currently working on an essay in which I 
must discuss the technology of computer graphics (Focussing on P.C.'s).  
My Professor was able to provide me with a couple of books which were 
quite explanatory but unfortunately they were from 1983!  Our library has 
very little on the subject of hardware, but plenty on the subject of 
graphics programming.  What I am looking for is a book which explains the 
technical nature of today's graphics cards and monitors as well as any 
magazine articles which people have read (I am currently checking out 
BYTE magazine and PC Magazine - but if you can point me to any 
particular issues??!?!).  I am looking for a fairly technical book, but 
one which also explains the terms it uses!!  I understand the basic 
technology, but when I went to read an article about one of today's Super 
VGA cards I found my base (Which I got from the texts) was inadequate and 
I couldn't understand many of the terms.  
 
      If anyone can direct me to some new books or magazines I would 
really appreciate it.  Please mail me back,   thanks,
                            Joel.
 
P.S. If there is anyone who works for a graphics hardware company who 
could send me some literature about their products (with explanations 
please) then please mail me, and I'll get back with my address.  Thanks.

cortisol@student.business.uwo.ca (Joel Hinderle)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: rosborn@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan H Osborn)
Subject: Re: IFF -> PostScript Bitmap...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 23:51:23 GMT

In article <1akqdlINNd83@gap.caltech.edu> rknop@cco.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop) writes:
>c1a192@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Oliver Erik Seiler) writes:
>
>>Does anyone know of a graphics conversion program (with source) for converting
>>an IFF picture file into a postscript file? The program must run on either
>>a standard UNIX workstation running X windows, or on an Amiga.
>>  Thanks in advance...
>
>Check out "Iff2Ps" on Fish Disk 94.  It works quite admirably.  Takes a little
>while (i.e. a few minutes) on a 7.14 MHz 68000, but has some nice options for
>grey scale, etc.
>
>Does anybody know of anything that will give you color postscript output from
>an ILBM file?
>
>-Rob Knop
>rknop@cco.caltech.edu

   The newest version of HamLab has the ability to export to various formats 
including postscript, color postscript, JPEG, GIF, 24bit IFF, and HamLab 24bit
temp files.  HamLab is a GREAT program for converting GIF's and JPEG's.  Check
out the demo (on physik I think).
						Ryan

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: wikstrom@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Are You An SGI USER?
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:31:17 GMT

I'm gathering information on the uses of Silicon Graphics workstations,
Inigo, Crimson, etc. What I'ld like to know is the NUMBER of workstation
you have, what TYPE, what APPLICATION you use them for, what SOFTWARE,
and any COMMENTS you have about them or your use of them.

Please reply VIA Email to:

	Wikstrom@camins.camosun.bc.ca

Thanks in advance.

TOM	


Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: schultz@schultz.kgn.ibm.com (schultz)
Subject: Re: PHIGS/PEX -HELP
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 23:02:03 GMT
Reply-To: schultz@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM AWD Graphics Systems

In article <12796@privet.rl.ac.uk>, ls@inf.rl.ac.uk (Lakshmi Sastry) writes:
|> Why doesn't PHIGS in X environment work for a monochrome machine?
|> The prog. works fine with a colour machine.
|> Is there a way to make PHIGS recognise it shouldn't try to get
non-existent colourmaps?
|> 
|> The error message I get is:
|> PHIGS error -168 in OPEN WORKSTATION: Ignoring function, cannot open
|> workstation on a read-only visual with no predefined colormap properties

Looks like you are using the PHIGS/PEX-SI from X11R5.  I don't think that
this sample code had support for read-only gray-scale visuals.
The server probably needs to be changed to know how to use color
approximation in this case, and the PHIGS library may need code to deal
with this visual type better.  Probably is not too hard to do...
More info in comp.windows.x.pex.

Karl Schultz                             schultz@vnet.ibm.com
These statements or opinions are not necessarily those of IBM
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Subject: Re: Holography
Reply-To: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 21:26:02 GMT

In article <BvFF9A.7tt@doppler.ncsc.org>, davidb@doppler.ncsc.org (David Bennett) writes:
> CONTACT sought.
> 
> I am interested in finding out about an individual tht
> I believe works in Australia doing very large holograms,
> mural or wall size.  Does anyone recall who this individual
> was and how I might contact them?  Thanks.
> 
> David Bennett
> avs@ncsc.org
> 919 248 1182
> International AVS Center
> NCSC

I just checked with Dean Randazzo, a holographer friend of mine in
Chicago. He says two names come to mind: Paula Dawson, and "Alexander"
(no last name, that's what he goes by). Unfortunately Dead doesn't
have the information on contacting them. He thinks is might,
somewhere. He said he'd try and track it down and let me know if he
finds it. I'll save your email address and pass it on to you if he
does.
-- 

   -paul	pmartz@dsd.es.com
		Evans & Sutherland
Xref: sparky comp.graphics:10264 ont.events:463
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,ont.events,ut.dcs.graphics
From: mccool@csri.toronto.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: SMPTE Conference/Siggraph Toronto
Followup-To: mccool@dgp.utoronto.ca
Keywords: Video, Television, Film Graphics, SMPTE, Siggraph
Organization: University of Toronto/Dynamic Graphics Project
Distribution: ont
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:39:44 GMT


SMPTE* Conference Advance Registration -- Toronto Siggraph
=========================================================
(* Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers)

Attention Siggraph Toronto Members!  The SMPTE conference, which covers
professional television and video and this year has a large multimedia 
component, will be held in Toronto this November 10-13.  Siggraph Toronto 
will be running one of the Technical Sessions, entitled "Multimedia", from 
1:45-5:30 on Thursday, November 12th.  The unfinalized schedule for 
this session is as follows:

1:45 Opening Film
2:05 Computer Graphics for Scanned Laser Displays
		B. Benner, Murphy
2:30 Interactive Entertainment with 3D Audio
		Gehring
2:55 Computer Graphics Techniques for Virtual Reality Simulation
		Stuart Feldman (Lightscape Research)
3:30 Realistic Digitized Dinosaur Simulation and Animation
		Davidson
3:55 Performance 3D Animation: Beyond Key Frames
		Davidson
4:20 Interactive Video
		Vincent John Vincent (Vivid Group)
4:45 Tools for the Animation of Facial Expressions
		Kardan
5:10 Interactive Audience Participation
		Ken Deaton

If you are a paid Siggraph Toronto member, we are trying to arrange free or
reduced cost attendance *at this one session*.  Note: Siggraph TORONTO,
*not* ACM Siggraph.  This is a locally sponsored event.  In fact, this
conference is sponsored by neither IEEE nor ACM, computer graphics
having apparently not reached a high enough level of convergence with
television and film media---yet ;-).

If you wish to register for the entire conference/trade show, I can
arrange to fax you a SMPTE registration form.  You should be aware, however,
that the advance deadline is Oct 9th.  Email me at mccool@dgp.utoronto.ca,
or fax me at (416) 653-1654.  You can also contact SMPTE directly at
(914) 761-1100, or FAX (914) 761-3115.

NOTE: the student rate is $35, the member rate $300, the nonmember rate $390.

========================================================================
For DGP Lab members, a SMPTE registration form and a Siggraph Toronto 
membership form are available on the bulletin board.  Please photocopy 
and return.
========================================================================

Michael McCool.
FAX:		(416) 653-1654
INTERNET:	mccool@dgp.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: joes@lpi.liant.com (Joe Stewart)
Subject: Re: Need a very versatile graph plotting program
Reply-To: joes@lpi.liant.com
Organization: LIANT Software Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:28:20 GMT

In article <43@abcom.ATT.COM>, cscsd02@abcom.ATT.COM (3402 ) writes:
|> I'd like to find out if there is a DOS based graphics package that would 
|> allow me to virtually design my own graph. This graph would have the high, 
|> low, and close values of a stock for various weeks, along with many 
|> horizontal lines indicating + or - % increases.

You may want to take a look at Liant's FIGARO+ for DOS.  FIGARO+ is Liant's
implementation of PHIGS+, the ANSI/ISO 2D and 3D graphics standard.  While
PHIGS does not define charts or graphs, it does define graphics primitives
which are used to build graphics, both in 2D and in 3D.  

If you'd like the usual marketing literature, send a note to info@liant.com.
If you have technical questions, send a note to me, joes@lpi.liant.com.

Joe
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Newsgroups: comp.graphics
From: jjjbokma@cs.ruu.nl (John Bokma)
Subject: Re: 8 Pixels to 1 Summary and Help Wanted!
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:29:08 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <1992Sep23.124023.18954@cs.ruu.nl> jjjbokma@cs.ruu.nl (John Bokma) writes:

(That's me!)

>/*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*/
>
>static int process_pixels_2(int pixels[8])
>{
> int      i,j;
> rgb_comp rgb[8];
> int      sum[8]
> int      temp,min,found;
>
>
> for(i=0;i<8;i++) rgb[i]=unpack_RGB(pixels[i]);


Whoops, forgot to clear the sum array, so this line must be:

  for(i=0;i<8;i++)       
  {
   rgb[i]=unpack_RGB(pixels[i]);
   sum[i]=0;                      /* clear sum array*/
  }

>So if you know a better one, or have additions/corrections, literature
>references, comments, 
>
> please, please,
>
> mail to:
>
>          jjjbokma@cs.ruu.nl
>
>Thanks,
>
>John

The above still holds, so please mail!!
From: dont@execu.execu.com (Don Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Flight Simulation
Keywords: flight simulation simulator
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:11:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Austin Dev. Center, Comshare Inc.


        After recently becomming addicted to several filght 
	simulators ( Hellcat, for the Macintosh and Falcon 
	on both Mac and PC ) I started wondering about how 
	all this stuff works. 
	
	Is there a textbook approach to  programming a flight simulator,
	or is all the execellent simulations availible today
	based on proprietory technology?
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Don Thompson                        |   I may be opinionated, but at least
Comshare Inc. dont@execu.execu.com  |   my opinions are my own.
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From: bouma@cs.purdue.EDU (William J. Bouma)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Will there be Graphics Gems 4?
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:03:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University


If so, how does one submit?
-- 
Bill "Motion" <bouma@cs.purdue.edu>
From: hallch@CS.ColoState.EDU (christopher hall)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Where is XSharp?
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:37:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <BvIBHw.LB2@ais.org> empath@ais.org (Tim Triemstra) writes:
>Does anyone know of an Anonymous FTP site that would have the most
>recent updates to the Dr. Dobb's Journal Source code?  
>...

You can ftp to the Dr. Dobbs. BBS at ftp.mv.com.  You must try though
between 5:00 p.m. and 9:00 a.m. (I think)   If you can't log on the
first try keep trying, eventually you'll get through.

Chris Hall
hallch@handel.colostate.edu
From: tomc@siesoft.co.uk (Tom Crossland)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: WANTED: Image Formats/Algorithms
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:28:51 GMT
Reply-To: tomc@siesoft.co.uk
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.

I am looking for specifications of the following image formats:

GIF, JPEG (JFIF?), IMG, TIFF, LBM.

If anyone has specs and/or algorithms/source to decode them please could
you email them to me.

Many thanks,

--
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From: teter@vixvax.mgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Mac-Software for cutting plotter needed..
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:53:56 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Sep30.185331.6911@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Peter.Gorny@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Peter Gorny) writes:
> We want to use a Mac plus a cutting plotter to cut the outlines of
> shapes (letters, symbols etc.) into adhesive films.
> Question 1:   Is there software for that?
>               (Necessary condition enlargement of letters up to 20 inches)
> Question 2:   Which experiences have you made with cutting plotters... 
>               for similar purposes ? 
> Thank you
>           Peter Gorny
> 
> 
> -- 
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>       Snail-Mail:    P.O.Box 2503 - D-2900 Oldenburg - Germany 
>       Voice:            +49-441-798-2901 or -4521 (Fax: -2155)
>       E-Mail:     Peter.Gorny@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE 
>       ________________________________________________________

Try a company called META-4 based in Minneapolis.  They make software for
vinyl cutters and other similar cutters.  I think they can take in PostScript.

Jim Teter   teter@mgi.com

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