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From: dan@korgrd.com (Dan Phillips)
Subject: Jupiter 6 & JamBox 2 for Sale
Organization: Korg Research and Development, Milpitas, CA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:54:07 GMT

Hey-yo!

Items for sale:

* Roland Jupiter 6 - $800
     MIDI analog synth
     Six dual-oscillator voices (VCO's, not DCO's)
     Oscillator sync in both directions
     Pulse width modulation from envelope or lfo
     Low pass/high pass resonant multimode filter
     (you haven't truly lived until you've played a resonant high-pass 
     filter sweep)
     2 envelopes, 2 lfo's
     Programmable keyboard splits

A beautiful-sounding, classic analog synth - punchy envelopes, arpeggiator,
lots of sliders, etc.

I have not seen one of these posted in some time, and neither 
have the used equipment dealers 
that I have called, who recommended this price. This particular unit is 
also in *impeccable* condition (many have commented that they haven't seen 
one in this condition for years), and so I believe the price is fair.

* JamBox 2 SMPTE-MIDI converter/MIDI merger - $90
     Stand-alone SMPTE-MIDI converter
     Sends out either DTL (for Performer) or MTC
     Merges 2 MIDI Ins, along with time code, to MIDI out
     Stripes to tape

Note: this is a stand-alone box; unlike its relatives the JamBox 4 and 4+,
it does not require a Macintosh. Also unlike its relatives, this model is
*very* stable; it has served me well for over 4 years, but I just bought
a MIDI Time Piece II, which includes these functions.

please respond directly to dan@korgrd.com

- Dan
-- 
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From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:40:35 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1993Jan21.114721.1@acad.drake.edu> seh003@acad.drake.edu writes:
*
*Any manufacturers out there listening?  This guy has a great idea that I've
*often wished for myself.  Up-to-date analogs with proper MIDI and MULTI-TIMBRAL
*capability.  A multi-timbral analog synth would be a godsend.  Anyone else
*agree?
*
*Stephen

The OBMx was going to be multi-timbral before Gibson pulled the plug on them.

While I would love such a box, I can't really justify paying for it, and 
not enough other people can, too.  Witness the large number of analog synth
makers that have gone belly up.

                    Archer Sully      archer@sgi.com

        You are a good man, but you are in the wrong place and
        you are going to die a horrible death.
                        - A Chinese Ghost Story
From: martin
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,
Subject: Re: Jupiter-6 Questions
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:24:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: galoob.cs.utk.edu

I tried to send Steven mail a few days ago, but it bounced.
Here's a posting of my answer:

Steven,

|<      What is the default MIDI receive channel, or is it Omni? (I
|< haven't had time to make space on the rack yet, so I've only plaued
|< it by itself so far.)  What is the procedure (if there is one) for changing

The default upon power-up is to send/receive on MIDI channel 1.
If you want OMNI mode, then you need to depress the "Master Tune"
button during power-up.

You change the MIDI channel by holding down the Master Tune button,
and simultaneously depressing a bank or a program button (1-8) (9-16).
If you powered up the JP-6 in OMNI mode, and later change the channel,
then you can not get back into OMNI mode without a power-cycle.
Primitive, but the JP-6 was the second keyboard produced with MIDI.

|< the MIDI send/receive channel?  Also, how does the "Patch Preset Bank"
|< button/feature work?  Does it call up 4 banks of ROM presets, or is
|< it something else?

The "Patch Preset" banks are much like "Setup" programs on
contemporary synths.  They store performance information on
the keyboard setup - not information on VCO settings, etc.
Information like splits, arpeggio configurations, program maps,
etc. are stored in these (i.e. the lower panel of buttons are
stored in presets, while the upper panel of buttons are stored
in the program spaces.  The presets are the only banks whose selection
sends MIDI program change info.  There are 48 presets, and 64
program areas.

The JP-6 does not transmit pitch bend or modulation info - basically
program change, and note on/off.  At least, that's how mine is.

|<      If anyone has a manual for sale/photocopy, I will pay for
|< postage and expenses.  Please contact me via email.  Thanks in
|< advance!

I have a manual, but I can't find it.  It really is a pretty bad
piece of work.  I bought my Jupiter 6 new about 8-1/2 years ago, and it isn't
working right now.  I have to find a place that will repair it for me.
I'll help you out with your JP-6 if you can't find a manual.  Just send
me mail.  It's really a great keyboard.

                -- Tim

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From: grahame@skyfox
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: RE: Akai S1100 hard disk help wanted
Date: 25 JAN 93 20:19:24 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca

>I am thinking of getting a hard disk for my Akai S1100 and could really
>do with some advice with regards to internal drives.

John,
        Most newer SCSI drives will work just fine with your machine. While
it might be nice to have an internal drive, I'd have to argue that the extra
few bit 'o silver for an external are well worth it. Why, you ask?

-       HD's tend to be irritatingly noisy when you're working in a nice,
        quiet studio or home. There have been times when I've shut my
        drives off just to keep my sanity.

-       It might be a wise move to consider a removable or MO drive. Gives
        bunches of storage space for a minimum cash outlay. Of course, you
        either have to take a hacksaw to the side of your S1100 (NOOO!!! I'M
        KIDDING!!!) or go external.

-       HD's tend to get out-dated quickly. With an external, you can always
        sell the bare drive and install a new gigadrive.

James Grahame
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From: altern8@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Klaus)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: I have a Mac - I want to make music. Help me?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:15:42 GMT
Organization: The Draco Unix System [BBS]

I have a Mac +, and a passion for bands like 808 State, Mc900ft Jesus, 
Fortran 5, Aircut, and the like. Anyone out there know what I would 
require (ie which MIDI devices). I do know a fair bit of keyboard theory, 
but little MIDI (except that they're expensive). Much obliged.


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The Draco Unix System [BBS]
From: din@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Clarence Din)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Cheap Multitimbral
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:20:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <C1HyI7.4ry@irvine.com> billy@irvine.com (*** Bouncer **) writes:
>Try Roland's Sound Canvas.  It can be had for just about $500, supports all

I just saw a really neat graphics demo done on the Sound Canvas LCD
display.  As the box was playing music, a little demo of Scramble (a
game that was popular ages ago) played onscreen.  Can a user program
the LCD display from the keys on the front panel or is this Scramble
game a factory demo?
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From: jrblack@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Black)
Subject: MOTU Uni-Syn Sighted?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:30:03 GMT

     I called MOTU a few weeks ago and I was told that their editor/lib
is due out in 2-3 weeks.  Has anyone heard anything more on this products
release?  I mean, MOTU doesn't seem fazed about releasing products with
bugs in the past.... what's the holdup?
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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Winter NAMM 1983
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:57:59 GMT

cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:

>AHEM. I have an idea for a musical instrument where you can generate an
>hour's superb-sounding music just from a simple interface. You don't need
>to be musical. It will spawn a superb third-party industry for sources of
>musical material with which it can be configured. I'm going to call it a
>"Compact Disc Player."

Nothing new.  I saw Nine Inch Nails play one two years ago.
-- 
I will not fight about digital vs analog.  I will not fight about digital vs a

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Make Sampling Legal...
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:39:23 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <pet.727703634@munagin> pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
>ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk writes:
>>However a killer snare hit on someone's recording (even in isolation) is sold
>>for the express purpose of being listened to. Sampling that snare drum and
>>using it in your music is going beyond what the product was sold for. 
>
>Just for the sake of argument, what about
>[situations deleted]
>How do any of these differ from sampling the snare hit from the CD?

A CD is *copyrighted*.  Not only that, a CD is *DOUBLY copyrighted*.
There is a copyright on the material (music, lyrics) and a copyright
on the actual recording of the sound waves.

>The question I'm getting at is the practicality of it. For practical reasons,
>what constitutes a culpable (correct word? I mean sue-able) offense?
>I believe a snare hit wouldn't, or a bass note.

If it came off a copyrighted audio recording it violates the copyright.
As for it being "actionable" (the word you're looking for), it would
be very difficult to prosecute someone for one note.  It's not the
sound that is copyrighted, it is the recording of the sound.  More
specifically, IT'S THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU USE A COPYRIGHTED RECORDING
and has nothing to do with the content of the recording.  Many of the 
sounds you hear on a CD probably came from standard synths and drum machines.  
They could be sounds that you have in your own setup.  However, that doesn't 
give you permission to sample the recording.  Sure, it would be impossible to 
prove in court but that's another issue entirely.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
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From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Ensoniq list? (was: Re: [EMAX II] Who's got one & disk format.)
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:59:12 GMT
	<1993Jan26.220413.19464@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> <mikhil.728133261@Dublin>
Distribution: rec


   >(Mike Prudence) writes:
   >> The Ensoniq owners on the net have a friendly mailing list going,
   >> complete with their own sample exchange and public domain utilities
   >> for handling Ensoniq disks on PCs.  They even have a couple of Ensoniq
   >> employees answering the occasional question for them.

   >  Really?  That's the first I've heard of an Ensoniq list.  Could someone  
   >please post the details on joining?

   I'm also VERY interested!!!

You can subscribe to the EPS list by sending mail to eps-request@reed.edu.
There is a FTP site called eps.reed.edu with samples and utilities to grab.

-- Mike


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From: af522@yfn.ysu.edu (Bill Scott)
Subject: SIMMs for sale or trade
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:49:35 GMT


I have two 4MEGx9 SIMMs, 80ns. They don't work in a K2000. I 
would really like to trade for x8's <120 ns. I'll sell, too.

Bill Scott
WScott@acs.wooster.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell)
X-Sender:  (Unverified)
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:05:31 +0000

>Am I going nuts
>or is this a daft idea???

I cannot comment on your sanity, but it is indeed a daft idea. Analogue
synth sound is about animation, which you cannot capture with a sampler.

                      Nick Rothwell  |  "Say, how many contemporary dancers
   CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |     are there in this bar?"
        cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |  "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens
        cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |     and divide by two..."
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Make Sampling Legal...
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:54:11 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <drice.727560447@ponder> drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (D. Keith Rice) writes:
>>For a company to retain rights to a trademark, they have to defend
>>against anyone else using that trademark.  If they don't, they lose the
>>trademark.
>
>A company cannot lose their trademark simply because people misuse the
>terminology.  If the trademark is registered (as are Kleenex and Xerox),
>it belongs to the trademark holder and it cannot be lost because someone
>calls a Canon copier a Xerox machine.

A company has to show the court that they have done everything possible
to defend their trademark or copyright.   If Canon officially called 
their copier a "Xerox machine" in their advertisements and literature,
Xerox had better sue them.  In this example it would be difficult for 
Xerox to claim ignorance of Canon's actions.  On the other hand, somebody 
at the office who regularly refers to the copy machine as a "Xerox" is not
going to establish proof of Xerox's abandonment of their trademark.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
From: labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Cheap Multitimbral
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:21:35 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I'm looking for an inexpensive multi-timbral keyboard....any
suggestions/recommendations....appreciate it...... 
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From: stuartm@spider.co.uk (Stuart MacNeill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth,rec.music.synth
Subject: For sale: Roland R-5
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:39:44 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK

FOR SALE................

  ROLAND R-5 DRUM MACHICE

  - 68 16-bit PCM samples
  - all sounds tunable, with editable decay
  - extra space for user edited sounds
  - 16 velocity sensitive pads
  - real and step time recording
  - 100 patterns, 10 songs
  - "humanizer" features
  - excellent condition, home use only

  Price: #200.00 ono (UK pounds). UK only (sorry). I will pay shipping.
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Re:Wavestation limitation
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:48:41 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1993Jan19.155441.10611@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
                                      shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:

>One thing that really annoys me (now you've got me going :-) ) is why
>each manufacturer first brings out a keyboard version. With MIDI
>you only need one or two keyboards - everything else should be a module.
>Manufacturers should offer a choice of master controllers and then just
>release rack mount modules.

The answer (again, for the second time today!) is economics.  The sales
numbers of keyboardless modules are typically way below that of their
keyboarded (is that a word?!?) cousins.  It is easy to forget, especially
in this forum, where many (most?) of us are technically oriented, that
Joe Average Musician is still not really comfortable with MIDI, and with
the concept of an instrument whose only control input is a funny looking
connector that he doesn't understand, nor, more importantly, trust.  This
means that he will much more often buy the keyboard version, especially
when the price differential remains relatively small.

-- 
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    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
From: na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nicolas Alejandro Arauz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Korg A5 For Sale $250!
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:53:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UfLsjpO00WB6A5r2JZ
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I have a Korg A5 Multi-FX processor for sale.  It's sits on the floor,
and allows 5 effects simultaneously.  It's about a month old, in perfect
condition, still have the original box, manuals, etc.  It has
Compressor, 3 Band EQ, Exciter, Chorus/Flanger, Reverb/Delay.  It's
really nice, and each effect has its own pedal.  I just decided it's not
convenient for me to use.  I prefer rack-type/table-top/micro effects,
and actually, I've replaced this with a Zoom 9002, which I prefer because
of its compact size.  It sits on my desk where I can plays with the
controls.  But if combined foot-pedals are your thing, then the A5 is
for you!  I'm selling it for $250+ship (cash or certified check/m.o.).
I think it goes for about $299 (plus tax) at Sam Ash last time I checked.
And even if it's a little lower now, you'll still have to pay $40 or so
in taxes.  So if you're interested, give me a call at (212) 388-9495 and
ask for Alex or reply to this account.  I may accept a SLIGHTLY lower
(reasonable) offer.  Note that this is the NON-DISTORTION version, I
guess it would be ideally suited for Acoustic Guitar, Voice, Synthesizers.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
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Subject: Attention: Techno Musicians
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:59:27 GMT



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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:42:46 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <CUBASE.93Jan20221416@kaarne.cs.tut.fi> cubase@cs.tut.fi (Pekka Martikainen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.181314.326@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dpelton@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dennis Pelton) writes:
>
>> My partner has been most unhappy with the "string" pads she
>> and I have been getting our of our synths (Yamahas).  Just
>> yesterday I got the MIDI interface for my Chroma, and put
>> analog synth strings into one of her pieces.  She just about
>> peed her pants...
>
>Yamaha's FM synths are maybe the worst source of pads (after monophonic
>synths). I have tried and tried and .... 

Agreed.  Yamaha's FM can produce some amazing textures but for some strange 
reason it can't crank out a silky string pad in the traditional sense.
I once got into an argument with a Yamaha regional rep who tried to
tell me that the DX7 has most authentic string sound available.  Yea,
right.  I will admit that the DX7 did some pretty decent solo string
sounds.

My personal favorite string pad is on the Kurzweil 1000PX or K2000
(same sample except 1000PX rolls off at 10K while K2000 uses full 
bandwith)  Either way it is thick and lush.  The old Polymoog put
out a wonderful string pad but it was not as convincing as a
sample (but still wonderful in its own way).

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
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From: billy@irvine.com (*** Bouncer **)
Subject: Re: What's this thing worth?
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:40:41 GMT

>I've got this naf Ensoniq ESQ 1 synth with the latest(!!) software update
>to  it , and quite a large (~52000note) sequencer memory to it. Plus about 4
>sound cartridges , each containing roughly 80 sounds , with one of the
> cartridges writable to. 
>
>		Anybody give me an idea of what it`s worth?

Probably about $400.  My girlfriend just sold hers, and that's what she got
for it.
-- billy@irvine.com
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From: plyall@teal.csn.org (Pete Lyall)
Subject: Roland Sampler Mailing List
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:09:58 GMT

Can some kind soul refresh me as to the address for the Roland
Sampler Users Group?

Pete Lyall

-- 
Pete Lyall                Video King Systems                     plyall@csn.org
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