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From: gemmellj@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Need info for Amtrak travel
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:00:35 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <92209.133123LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET>, LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
> Howdy folks.  I would appeciate any info, stories (good or bad), and ideas of
> what to expect on my upcoming vacation.  I will be traveling on Amtrak to
> Little Rock, Omaha, and Indianapolis.  A few questions in paticular:
> 
> 1. How easy is it to sleep with the rail noise and frequent stops without being
>    in a sleeper car?
> 
> 2. What are meal prices like?  How good is the food?
> 
> 3. On each leg of the trip, I switch trains in Chicago, and have layovers of
>    varying lengths.  For the longer than 2 hr layovers, is the station close to
>    someplace that I shouldn't miss seeing while I have the opportunity?
> 
> And for all the flames that may fly my direction from the rec.travel.air sub, I
> will gladly accept info in E-mail to not clutter the sub.  I just figured that
> some of the folks there might have ridden the friendly rails.
> 
> BTW--- I will be departing Grand Forks, ND on August 3rd.  Any info prior to
> that date would be greatly appreciated.
> 


>                                       Lee


My only experience w/ Amtrack was in late April.  I took the Capital Limited
from Union Station in Washington, DC to Pitt., PA.  
Be sure to double check w/ the agent that your bags are going to be on the 
right train.  To make a long story short, 1 bag got off w/ me in Pitt.
Another bag made it to Pitt., but the baggage workers forgot to take it
off and it ended up in Chicago.  My last bag never left Union Station.
To make this worse, I was moving out of DC and the only bag I recieved on
time was full of dirty clothes.  I got to Pitt at midnight on a Sat.
and by 8 Am on the next morning, my other bags met up with me.
The dinner was great.  I had lasiagnia.  They served it on real china.

Another highlight happy hour in the louge car.  $2 margarettias.

Have a good trip,
John
From: dianeho@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Diane Ho)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:35:59 GMT
Subject: THANKS FOR UTAH INFO
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: rec.travel

              THANKS! GRATEFUL FOR UTAH INFO

 I'd like to thank to those who replied to my request on info about Utah.
My husband and I spent a good 5-day trip at Salt Lake City (7/15-5/20).
To summarize, here are the things that we did:

  -fishing at Green river (at Flaming Gorge) and upper Weber river
  -visiting Dinosaur Monument
  -hiking at Snowbird (from the top of Hidden peak where the tram dropped
    us off) and various places on the way to Flaming Gorge
  -visiting Timpanogos caves (a must if you like stalactites and stalacmites!)
  -sightseeing Park City, Deer Valley, and Park West

 We saw lots of wild flowers and animals while hiking or riding the car.
The wild flowers on Gad Valley trail at Snowbird were very beautiful
at this time of the year.  We saw mule deer, fox, cottontail rabbits,
and lots of chipmunks.  The hike to Timpagonos cave was a little strenuous 
(an hour) but the caves were incredible!  We enjoyed them a lot, even 
better than the ones we saw in New Zealand or Malaysia.  At Dinosaur land,
we saw incredible petroglyphs (Indian rock art)!  These were created
hundreds years ago and still there for us to admire!

 We had good dinner at Baci (Salt Lake City).  On the way to Flaming Gorge,
we stayed at a nice inn called Vacation Inn at Manila ($30/night).
From our room we had the view of Flaming Gorge reservoir!
There are lots of concerts going on at the ski areas during summer, 
e.g. John Denver sang at Park West and Utah Symphony played at Deer Valley 
on Sat., and some other concert at Snowbird on Sunday.

 We enjoyed our trip a lot and believe that there's a lot of things to do
and see if you're an outdoor person.  We didn't have time for
Zion and Bryce canyons, but these will be on another trip!
Diane
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: chesler@unixland.natick.ma.us (David Chesler (also davidc@ptltd.com))
Subject: Re: Chicago,Boston,etc.,subways 
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:27:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.173518.23988@news.acns.nwu.edu> 
        staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers) writes:
>Chicago El is that the conductors carry money$$$ on the trains in Chicago.
>....  That could never happen in NYC where
>they keep the booth clerks behind bullet proof glass.

  Actually, very late at night, as recently as ten years ago, the conductors
were collecting the fare on the far reaches of the number 5 IRT.

  Being safer than the city at large, as someone said for the NYCTA, doesn't
make me feel very safe; there are large crime-ridden areas I won't go.
 
  I was brought up a strap-hanger on the IRT, and have just started taking
Boston's Red Line to work.  In New York, the majority of my fellow riders
looked either menacing or disturbed; in Boston they seem overwhelmingly
cheerful and alert.

-- 
David Chesler (chesler@unixland.natick.ma.us, also davidc@ptltd.com)
From: ago@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Romain Agostini)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: What to do in Boulder, CO area?
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:40:59 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: SLAC

I'll be in Boulder, CO over the Aug 1 weekend. Any suggestions for
activities (I plan to drive a little bit around); anything special going on
during that weekend? Pointers to restaurants/clubs/hotels would also be
appreciated.

                                                   Ago

--------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer:
The opinions expressed in this posting are my own, and
not necessarily those of the Stanford Linear Accelerator 
Center, Stanford University, or the US Department of Energy.
From: susan_soric@upubs.uchicago.edu (Susan Soric)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Need Madison WI info/moving soon
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:03:22 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Univ. of Chicago

I'm moving to Madison Wisconsin in a few days and
will be looking for a job (freelance or full time) in the
publications or public relations fields.

Any leads or advice would be much appreciated.

Tips on good Lutheran churches would also
be appreciated.  (An explanation of why the
church is a "good" one would be great!)

Thanks, Sonya

 please e-mail responses to

susan_soric@upubs.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wcs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs)
Subject: Re: Ideas for Egypt
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs Random Organization Name Generator
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:29:55 GMT

In article <18155@drutx.ATT.COM> fjb@druwa.ATT.COM (Jeff Bogart) writes:
]My wife and I are looking for travel alternatives in Egypt.
]We're probably not brave enough to travel alone since we don't speak arabic and
]have found that *some* groups are able to get access to things that individuals

We spent a  few days in Cairo, first on our own and then connecting up
with a tour group that went across Sinai and into Jordan and Israel.
Language wasn't much problem - the British used to run the place, so
the dominant foreign language was English, and the hotels, airlines,
and tourist-oriented places could all handle it.  Taxi drivers were
pot-luck, but if one driver can't communicates with you,
you can find another taxi easily enough.  (Taxis *do* cost about 4
times as much if you speak English :-), but it's still reasonable price.)
The bus system was manageable.  Street signs were mostly in Arabic,
though there was enough to get by as long as you can read  numbers
(using Persian numerals, but it's base-10 and you can learn in 5 minutes.)

The tour group we were with stayed in Mena House, which is the 5-star
place next to the Great Pyramid, so I'm not sure what tourist-price
hotels are like, but it shouldn't be a problem.  These were folks we
knew from the US and had arranged to meet up with, but it's
not hard to find tour groups to hang out with when you want to.

I enjoyed Cairo - it was big and dirty, but the people were friendly,
there was a lot to see, the food was great, and we only lost a day or
so to stomach trouble (*do* try to stick to bottled water.)
We weren't able to get down to Luxor, since the airlines weren't
keeping a very regular schedule, but if you've got time for trains
it's supposed to be seriously worthwhile.  You'll have to do a lot
more planning to get to Sinai, but do it if you can.
-- 
				Pray for peace;      Bill
#Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
If you're reading this in *.politics.*, I'll try to keep up with the discussion,
but any good insults should be sent by email so I'll be sure to see them.
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From: rembold@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Bernhard F Rembold)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.czecho-slovak,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: What to see in Prague, Slovakia, Austria, Budapest, Munich ?
Keywords: tourist looking for advice
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:20:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <bayomi.13@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca> bayomi@bldghsc.lan1.umanitoba.ca (Dennis Bayomi) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.010900.22123@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> wcs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Bill Stewart 908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs) writes:
>
>>Next month I'll be spending a week in Prague, a week at a conference
>>in Poprad, and then a week wandering around on trains, ending up in Munich.
>>What should I see on the way?  Tentative plans are to spend a day or two
>>in Slovakia, then Budapest, then Vienna, then take scenic trains to
>>Innsbruck and up to Munich, but I'm pretty flexible about that part.
>>Is there anything I shouldn't (or should) miss?
>

[ stuff deleted ]

>>#Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705 erebus.att.com!wcs AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ

>
>You've probably got plenty of advice on Vienna and Prague and since I spent 
>about 9 days in Budapest, I can give you a few pointers.  Sorry I'm not near 
>my travel guides to give you the exact names/spellings, etc. and I'm on a 
>plane tmrw for holiday of my own to Nova Scotia.  Anyways ...
>
[ stuff deleted ]
>
>There's lots more but hope this helps a bit.
>
>Dennis
>Winnipeg, CANADA

Heres some more on Budapest...

Visit the Gellert (sp ?) therms (an interesting experience) and the large
market hall in downtown Budapest. Evenings along the Fisher Bastei around 
the Budapest Hilton and the church in the castle area there were a lot of 
pretty good musicians and various other artists. 

-- Bernhard
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jec@pilatus.zurich.ibm.com (Jean Cherbonnier)
Subject: Ljubljana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 14:41:47 GMT
Reply-To: jec@pilatus.zurich.ibm.com (Jean Cherbonnier)
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Keywords: Ljubjlana


I would like to visit Ljubljana (Slovenia). Does anyone knows if
it safe by the time being. And if YES, what are the main things
to visit ? Where is it possible to spend a night ?

J. Cherbonnier
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Doug Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Young homeless in Canada?
Keywords: Canada Toronto Montreal homeless
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:19:46 GMT

In article <Bs28uI.IE3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hausman@caffeine.cen.uiuc.edu (Kevin Hausman) writes:

>In both Toronto and Montreal, we were accosted by lots of young 'homeless'
>people on the street asking for money.  These people, both men and women
>(or should I say, boys and girls...) seemed to be about 18-21 years old.

>Are these people really 'homeless', or are they just kids hanging out trying
>to pick up a little money from passers-by? 

Without a doubt many of these people are "genuine", but recently I returned
from Victoria and Vancouver, where a resident there said the new "in" thing
for moderate-to-well-off kids was to dress up in "rags" and go out begging.

I suppose there are worse things they could be getting into, but it certainly
takes away from people who may really need help.  Just my $.02.

Doug Schaffer, University of Calgary, schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: rec.travel,co.general
From: rjc@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (robert.cook)
Subject: Trip around CO, NM &AZ. Where to go?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:57:43 GMT

I'm taking a week off with my two boys (11 & 3).  They want to camp, I'm not
real heavy into it any more.  We're looking at going to the Great Sand Dunes &
Gleenwood Springs in CO.

Any other ideas in these three states?

TNKS - rjc
 
P.S. Camp grounds and reasonable places to stay appreciated.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: turnock@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (D. L. TURNOCK)
Subject: AUSTRALIAN TRIP
Organization: HELL'S NERDS
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:54:04 GMT

A co-workers wife is attending a conference in Gold Coast Australia next week
(1 August) and would like to know what the weather is like at present.  (It is
mid summer up here and we think that it is winter down under.  She would also
like recommendations of things to do and places to visit while there.

Thanks for you help.  Either post or E-mail (preferably).

Dave

turnock@eagle.larc.nasa.gov
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Travel Tips
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:08:33 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <1992Jul22.202558.24008@ads.com>, henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:

|> [U.S.] domestic flights which run longer than six hours will have smoking
|> sections (there aren't very many of these, but there are some).

Are there any U.S. domestic flights over six hours that don't go
to or from Hawaii?   (or maybe Alaska?)

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Avis Europe Experience
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:40:38 GMT

ESR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Ed Russell) wrote: 
->....  I have written to Avis and will post the
->result, if any, of their response.  In the meantime, if anyone else on the
->net is planning a car rental in Europe, learn from my mistakes.

this is probably the best thing you can do; squeaky wheels do get
grease, especially if they squeak reasonably and politely.

in posession of several airline upgrades for squeaking,
--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dougda@sco.COM (Doug Darby)
Subject: Konocti Harbor Inn
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:03:40 GMT
Keywords: Clear Lake, vacation, advice please!



I am considering a vacation for about a week's stay on a lake
somewhere in CA.  I have heard of this place called Konocti
Harbor Inn and it *sounds* good in the AAA Tour Book.  My fiancee
and I are active people who enjoy water sports and just relaxing
also.   Has anyone been to this place?  Any comments?  Any comments
about Clear Lake in general?  Any other lakes/resorts(?) with rental
boats or other "fun" things?  Any ideas are welcome.

Thanks,

dougda@sco.com

...!uunet!sco!dougda
From: dkw00@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: [C[C[C[CNeed Suggestion for East Coast and Cananda trip <<
Date: 26 Jul 92 08:22:45 GMT
Reply-To: dkw00@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi,

My friends and I will be vacationing in the East Coast and Canada in 
mid-August.  I would greatly appreciate any suggestion for attractions, 
restuarants, hotels, and scenic drive in the following cities.

  - Washington D.C.
  - Baltimore
  - Philadelphia
  - Atlantic City	
  - New York City
  - Boston
  - Quebec
  - Montreal
  - Ottawa
  - Toronto
  - Niagara Falls

Thanks in advance,
David

reply to : dkw00@ruts.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jchu@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Jennifer Chu)
Subject: Things to do Toronto -> Chicago?
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:07:03 GMT

Hi,
   We are planning on a trip from Toronto to Chicago. We will be going
through Detroit on our way there, and through Buffalo/Niagara Falls on 
the way back. Any suggestions for interesting places or good restaurants 
around that area will be greatly appreciated. 

Jennifer
From: mingy@gnu.ecn.purdue.edu (Minerva Ming-Yee Yeung)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: AE Continental Coupon on US AIR (summary)
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:21:08 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


From rwerger@csrd.uiuc.edu Thu Jul 23 10:41:18 1992
From: rwerger@csrd.uiuc.edu (Laurentiv Rauchwerger)
Message-Id: <9207231541.AA13719@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu>
To: mingy@gnu.ecn.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: AE Continental Coupon using on US Air?
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air

If you get an answer about the AE coupons please post it or send me 
a copy it - I would be very interested in that
Thanks
Lawrence Rauchwerger
UofIllinois


From brandt@cs.unc.edu Thu Jul 23 09:27:48 1992
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:12:01 -0400
From: Andrew Brandt <brandt@cs.unc.edu>
Message-Id: <9207231412.AA13424@currituck.cs.unc.edu>
To: mingy@gnu.ecn.purdue.edu (Minerva Ming-Yee Yeung)
Subject: Re: AE Continental Coupon using on US Air
Status: OR


I can assure that USAir accepts it.  Just call them at 1-800-428-4322.
They know about and will honor it.  I used it, it's great!

Andy
-- 
                                            _______
                                           |  ___  |   `The 7 dwarves all
  Andrew Brandt (brandt@cs.unc.edu)        | | ? | |    got into a tub and
  Department of Computer Science           | |___| |    they felt happy.
  Univ of No Carolina at Chapel Hill       |    __ |    But happy got mad
         Springsteen Rules!            q.p |       |    and left.
  Go Heels!  Eagles dominate the NFL!  \_/  |_____|     So they felt grumpy.'



From Juan.Leon@SHELLEY.SP.CS.CMU.EDU Thu Jul 23 11:04:44 1992
Message-Id: <9207231604.AA04371@gnu.ecn.purdue.edu>
From: Juan Leon <jl@SHELLEY.SP.CS.CMU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:04:27 EDT
To: Minerva Ming-Yee Yeung <mingy@gnu.ecn.purdue.edu>
Subject: AE Continental Coupon using on US Air?
Status: OR



  Minerva,

  Yes, it is possible.  Most USAir reservation agents are now aware that you
can use your AE student cupons with them.  In case you get in trouble, the
code a few months ago was:

H/CO AMEX STUDENT

Juan




--------------------------

Thanks for those replied.  I appreciate that very much.

Minerva
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cheeky@athena.mit.edu (Cheekiang Lim)
Subject: Seoul, South Korea
Keywords: Accomodation, places of interest
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:04:39 GMT

I'll be stopping over at Seoul overnight on my trip to S'pore. Is there any cheap
hostel/hostel etc I can stay and what prices should I expect ?

Also, on my way back, I'll be staying in Seoul for 2 days. Please recommend any
places to vistit.

cheeky@athena.mit.edu
From: lash@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (LINDA A. STARK)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Dude Ranch out West
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:42:25 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

My friend is interested in flying to a dude ranch next year either in Wyoming
or ...... I forget.  Anyway, she'd like to know if anyone has ever been on
such a ranch and is it as good as they say or NOT.  Is there more stuff to do
other than riding horses?  Any advise would be appreciated.

                   Lin
From: laurence@spider.co.uk (Laurence Dearling)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: dual language tv broadcasts
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:48:27 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Jul21.105859.26863@city.cs> simon@cs.city.ac.uk (Simon Brock-Gunn) writes:
>In article <weMi7ni00VpZ44GH1E@andrew.cmu.edu> mf1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Franzini) writes:
>>Here in Madrid several TV stations have started broadcasting in
>>two languages-- original version (usually English) and dubbed
>>(Spanish).  According to an article in the newspaper, you need a
>>"special" TV to tune the alternate language soundtrack.  I'd like to
>>believe there is a cheaper way.
>>
>This sounds like NICAM digital stereo, such as we have in the UK.  The
>only thing that is "special" about the TV is that it can receive in
>stereo, and not mono!
>
>Normally, the two sound channels are used for the left and right sides of
>stereo sound, but it's possible to broadcast two mono sound channels
>instead, in which case you select which one you want to listen to.
>
>>                                    If I have a SW radio can I tune in
>>the TV sound?
>
>I don't know what frequencies all this is done on, but since it is all
>digitally encoded anyway, it wouldn't make any sense even if you could
>pick it up on your radio.
>
>In the UK, you can buy NICAM decoder units to attach to older TVs, so this
>could be an option for you, but I don't know how much they cost.
>
I do. I've two methods. One is DIY, from MAPLINS. Buy as a circuit board
already assembled, part number AM00, at 99.95 pounds. Or make the kit
yourself for 69.95. UK Mail order is +44 702 554161 with your credit card
ready.  Email me if you want a copy of the original 1989 spec or buy it for
1.20 from above number.

The other is a man who really knows what he's doing, has a higher spec board
with lower current drain and fits the whole thing into your machine quite
seamlessly for around 150.00, providing you have a space of 6x4x1 in. (Or
he'll box it for external at a bit extra for the PSU etc + connectors).

I took him a 1987 SONY EV-S700UB Video8 off-air tuner a week ago and he is
customising it for NICAM. He hasn't touched this particular machine before
but 10 minutes convinced him (AND ME) that he knew how to do it. His home
number is +44 81 890 3010, but of course he may not be in before 19.00 GMT 
-- 
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        |         /\8/\    ^~^          Spider Systems Limited, Spider House
   ////\@/\\\\                 Peach Street WOKINGHAM, Berkshire RG11 1XH UK
 ////      \\\\  laurence@spider.co.uk Tel: + 44 734 771055 x.480 Fax:771214
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: NYC Train/Bus depot question
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:21:44 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <9207221707.AA09480@td2cad> snahas@TD2CAD.INTEL.COM (steven nahas) writes:

>If I take a train from Providence, RI to NYC, does that train
>deposit me at Penn Sta. or Grand Central?

Hard to say, but most Northeast Corridor traffic ends up in Penn Station.

>If I want to take a Greyhound bus from NYC to Philly, do I do that
>from Port Authority terminal, or somewhere nearby? 

The Port Authority is the place to go.

>Anyone have a handle on walking distances from these train stations
>to Port Authority and/or  the Greyhound depot nearest ?

Penn Station is on 34th Street and 7th Avenue.
Grand Central is over on 42nd Street and Park Avenue.
The Port Authority is on 42nd Street and 8th Avenue.

Penn Station -> PA = 10 blocks, not so bad.
Grand Central -> PA = lots of long cross-town blocks, yuck.

I don't recommend walking between those location with a lot of bulky
luggage. That's a real pain. The subway is much easier.

-Geoff
--
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	"I hate Vulcans!  I hate the logic!  I hate the arrogance!"
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