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From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Interplay
Date: 3 Jan 93 01:44:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Jimmy Shaw's lips:
> 
> I'll forward your message/question to BurgerBill himself :-)  He is on
> a networked Apple II BBS that started in Los Angeles.  I was hoping
> BattleChess II would be ported, but a lot depends on the sale of OOTW.

    Do we have any hard figures on the sale of OOTW?  I certainly hope that
Interplay will hire Bill to do more GS games (and hopefully a couple more
GS programmers too!)  OOTW was a big hit at our last user group meeting.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: guillaum@pogo.trl.OZ.AU (Andrew Guillaume)
Subject: Re: Apple II System Disk (v4.0.1) is shipping
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2
Keywords: ProDOS v2.0.2
Reply-To: a.guillaume@trl.oz.au
Organization: The Okefenokee Swamp
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:45:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.225011.26521@cs.uow.edu.au>, david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson) writes:
|The new Apple II System Disk with ProDOS v2.0.2 is now shipping. I got
|mine from Resource Central and it arrived yesterday.

(This may be a dumb question, but here goes:) Will this be available through
ftp at apple.com ? If so, may I venture a second question, hesitatingly asking
when could it possibly be available ?

Thanks in advance

Andrew Guillaume
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Comments Anyone?
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:38:51 GMT

Brian Tao (90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA) wrote:
: >  To  > Apple II users                    From> John Sculley (#113)
: >  
: > I have been following this thread and the need to speak out against
: > ignorance and conjecture.
: 
:     Oh please... is this *really* from Sculley, or just some user who goes
: by the alias John Sculley?  Since the remaining messages are posted with
: aliases, and the originating system is called "Sculley's Hatred", I somehow
: doubt this is the CEO of a billion-dollar computer corporation speaking.
: 
: > Apple Computer, Inc.
: > 20525 Mariani Avenue
: > Cupertino, California 95014
: > Attn: John Sculley, CEO
: >  
: > (408) 996-1010 and press 0 for the operator.
:     Someone in 408 wanna give this number a try?  Otherwise, don't waste
: your money on an LD charge...

That IS Apple's number, but I really doubt it's Sculley, I'm sure he has his
own number, and anyways, 408/996-1010 is the number or the corporate operator,
and you don't need to dial 0 for operator, you call, and it's the operator.

Anyways, I'm going to call and ask for Sculley, if they say no, I'll just BS
my way into there... umm... "Hi, I'm from Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous..."

Roy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Apple 2 ES (I think) question
From: csokolo@eis.calstate.edu (Christopher Sokolov)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:35:16 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Well, there is no Apple II ES, but there is an Apple IIe and IIGS.  One
source for software is Quality Computers (1-800-777-3642)  Have them send
you their publication, Enhance, or, subsribe to II Alive from them. 
Either of those pupblications should list other sources.

You may also try bookstores or magazine racks for InCider/A+.  It is a
magazine which carries Apple II articles and ads in it.

You should also read the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) which is posted
here every few weeks.  Should answer a lot of basic questions.

Hope I helped!

-Christopher Sokolov 			csokolo@eis.calstate.edu

Disclaimer: I don't work for Quality, just think they are one of the
biggest mail order firms for the apple II. :)
From: bj687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Joseph Boehnlein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: FVNet
Date: 23 Dec 1992 17:09:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bj687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Joseph Boehnlein)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jon@qed.cts.com (Jonathan Fether) says:

>We on FVNet are joining Internet. Coming soon to Internet:
>
>FutureNET (FVNet)
>TEAM-NET
>Ogg-Net (If they don't make us pay for the gateway, what would be a 
>         service for them.)
>On FVNet, we have recieved messages (Until the sysop locked us out, they 
>were only experimental) from InterNET. We hope to complete the gateway in 


OK..Let me clear all this up before we get people flaming left and right
and spreading rumors here....

First of all, disregard the previous message. It's got some merit, but
it is grossly inaccurate.

Second of all, disregard the DATE of completion. It's WAY off!!!

Let me put things in this perspective...

5-6 People are now in the stages of Beta testing both the Phase II
release of FutureVision and a semi stable new METAL. 

The addressing and networking schemes that comprise the heart of the
Futurenet have been significantly changed to facilitate EASY translation
between Internet Mail / Usenet etc...

Shell commands (Metal's Shell version of Externals!) have been written
to make converting data between the two networks easier. Mainly, code
has been written that will allow conversion between lf and cr's.

I am currently running FV 5.0d1 on my system at home. The basic core of
the system is very stable, hwever, the severe intense Networking code is
flaky. A lot of it has NOT been completed yet. (What the heck, it's a
beta!) 

The addressing now intelligently routes internet mail...


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Greg Boehnlein  - Sysop of Damage Incorporated (216)328-0374 - METAL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: BD: ZIPGSX 9mhz/32K Questions
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:22:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.222609.3330@zip.eecs.umich.edu> grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
>In article <cJ53VB2w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-bdoherty@jwt.UUCP writes:
>>I just bought a ZIPGSX from TMS Peripherals (one of the greats of the
>>mail order business I might add) and installed it without any
>>trouble.  I just have a few questions, is there any way to stop the
>>cursor from flickering on the desktop?  Has anyone had any problems
>
>I don't know about the programs crashing, but a recent GS+ disk from
>GS+ magazine had a CDev that fixed the cursor flicker on Zipped systems.
>-- 
> __                                                                        __
>(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__)
>(__)                                                                      (__)
>(__)    Stupid Dan Quayle quote deleted, now that he's out of a job :-)   (__) 

The CDEV is called "Extra Bits" and it works great for eliminating the 
flicker. Apparently, (if my memory serves me!) System 6 uses some BRAM
bits to tell the computer how to handle drawing the cursor if you are
using an accelerator.

Extra Bits is not shareware or freeware so I can't upload it for you.
You can get it by buying a recent back issue of GS+. Or perhaps some-
one has already written a PD program to accomplish the same thing?

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com
 
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Internet: schultp@pd-dom.wl.com
===============================
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:59:57 EST
From: Dr. John King Gamble Jr. <JKG2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AWGS vs System 6


In article <1992Dec28.133858.3849@cas.org>, lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
says:

>My father-in-law purchased a TMS Pro 105 hard disk recently.  It came with
>system 6, some inits, etc. installed.  He installed AWGS 1.1 on it and began
>working with it.  He found that it frequently freezes operation.  In one demo
>he provided for me, the mouse cursor continued to move, but no menu items
>would
>drop,  no windows would reposition, etc.  The system had to be rebooted.  He
>also saw times when the outside border of the screen (where text, windows etc
>never go) would turn to a bright red.

>Any ideas where to start looking for a fix for this problem?  What steps
>would be useful?

For reliable DTP work, buy GraphicWriterIII. AWGS is evil.

>Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: Sales of OOTW (was Re: Interplay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 3 Jan 93 06:49:58 GMT

In article <9301030144.AA20770@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca> 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:
>The following revelation escaped Jimmy Shaw's lips:
>>
>> I'll forward your message/question to BurgerBill himself :-)  He is on
>> a networked Apple II BBS that started in Los Angeles.  I was hoping
>> BattleChess II would be ported, but a lot depends on the sale of OOTW.
>
>    Do we have any hard figures on the sale of OOTW?  I certainly hope that
>Interplay will hire Bill to do more GS games (and hopefully a couple more
>GS programmers too!)  OOTW was a big hit at our last user group meeting.
>

I don't have any hard figures on the sales of OOTW, however, it was
good enough for Interplay so that they've decided to let Bill do another
GS title.  I am not all that excited about the new project though...
It's _Mario Teaches Typing_ supposedly a education program, kinda like
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing. :(  Why can't we get BattleChess II or
Castles ported?

Oh, this info is still subject to confirmation, since I had read this
from a BBS, but should be reliable enough, since Bill hasn't said
anything to the contrary.

>
>-- Real name: Brian Tao (Dept. of Exobiology, University of Toronto)
>-- Preferred: 90taobri@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca (checked daily)
>-- Free Plug: =MuGS 2.0=, the only offline Internet mail reader for
>--            the Apple IIGS, available soon!

Jimmy


--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bbs-bdoherty@jwt.UUCP (Benjamin Doherty)
Subject: BD: comp.binaries.apple2.d
Reply-To: bbs-bdoherty@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:11:49 GMT

From the last message that I saw on c.b.a2 this morning, I think that
there is another way to stop the posting of non-binary messages to
c.b.a2. 

>I didn't see a discussion group so I am posting here.  Can anyone
>suggest a comm package that would be good for a novice user of an
>Apple IIgs?  They have a Zoom modem and are not very computer
>literate.

This person looked for a discussion group, but couldn't find a
DISCUSSION group that is specifically for c.b.a2.  I believe that
this would be a good thing, to create a comp.binaries.apple2.d.

The good things that would become of this would include:

	o Less traffic on c.s.a2 of people requesting reposts,
	posting problems, or asking for help.

	o Better organization of c.b.a2 in that (theoretically)
	people would stop posting messages containing ONLY text to
	c.b.a2. 

	o Easier to find information or help about a certain program
	that has been posted than wading through the load of messages
	on c.s.a2.

Although, this also might not work.  In other binaries groups with
discussion groups, like alt.binaries.sounds.misc, most of the
discussion takes place in the .d group but some still stays in the
binaries group.  This would also mean one more group to read for
readers of many groups.  However, I feel the pros outweigh the cons
so it is worth a try.

Does anyone else believe the same way I do?  If so speak up!  Tell
us why you think this would work or why it wouldn't work.  Tell me
if this has already been tried before!  (I'm pretty sure it hasn't)
If the readers of c.s.a2 think that this is worth trying, mail me.
If enough people think the same way I do about this I will go to
news.newgroups to figure out how to do a proposal and RFD.  <grin>

InterNET: bbs-bdoherty@jwt.uucp               |   FidoNET: sysop@1:363/152
          jwt!bbs-bdoherty@peora.sdc.ccur.com | FutureNET: #109@#3
          ...!peora!jwt!bbs-bdoherty          |   ProLine: bdoherty@pro-magic
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Re: Please help me, my GS is falling apart!!!!! : -(
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:41:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.164023.27168@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jarezina@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jasna M Arezina) writes:
>
>I've been having problems with my Rom01  and some applications... there is some
>pixels (bytes?) on the screen that are junked - the programs all seem to work 
>fine, but it's worrying - finder sometimes does it, too. It also hapeens 
>between Sys504 and Sys6, so that's not the problem.
>
>Oh yes, it's not the software - the harddrive and stuff works fine on a 
>rom03... it's just my machine. Is this is problem with the hardware (my freind 
>says it's the shadow-ram) or just a known glitch?

    I, too, have been having intermittent problems with my GS, which I
am almost positive is a failing crystal or broken trace near the crystal.
When it occurs, my problems acts as if the Option and Apple keys are
being pressed rapidly.  Now that I have several new cards in my GS, I
think my power supply is heating up and working the crystal loose.
[Pressing down the crystal seems to clear the problem up.]


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0n70cH-0000sgC; Wed, 30 Dec 92 02: 25 PST
From: lorend@pro-scat.cts.com (Loren Damewood)
Subject: Re: II BBS in 203 area?
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 23:31:28 EST

You could try pro-merlin, here's my site-list entry for it:

Site Name   SysAdmin  Name             City, ST            TMSPLF Site Phone
-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-
merlin      keith     Keith Foster     Uncasville, CT      g2     203/848-1151

Don't know how close Uncasville is to you, but that's the only one I could see
with that area code. Good luck!

Loren
From: jlars@pro-storm.cts.com (John Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProDOS 8 System Disk???
Date: 3 Jan 93 05:12:09 GMT
Organization: ProLine [Pro-Storm] -- Dallas, TX -- 214/644-5113


   Do you have any idea where I might find P8 2.0.2?

John Larson 

ProLine:  jlars@pro-storm
Internet: jlars@pro-storm.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-storm!jlars
Bitnet:   jlars%pro-storm.cts.com@nosc.mil
From: ST2975@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:wanted:65816
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:50:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Merlin16(+) is not the only program that supports the 65802.
I've written a 16 bit cp-interpreter for the HyperC environment
that runs ALL of the HyperC language tools and external commands.
(read: backwards compatibility built-in)

It supports 16 bit irqs (and HyperC's unorthodox use of brk)
in a ProDOS 8 environment.

P.S. its free to anyone to use.  And until I'm told otherwise,
it will also work on a IIgs.  Previous versions did.  Currently
it uses a 16 bit accumulator, 8 bit index registers mostly,
zero page direct register and 16 bit stack pointer.  I'm playing
with the idea of a dynamic direct page and lda/sta (offst,s),y
addressing mode.

I'd be interested in compiling a list of those 8 bit Apple II
owners with a 65802/816 installed.  Maybe with enough names
we might even get a modified version of ProDOS 16.  (right!)
I know of about a half dozen currently.

/*   Andy Werner        hybrid concepts     st2975@siucvmb.siu.edu  *
 *   HyperC enthusiast                 65802/816 support for HyperC *
 *   Laser 128EX          4Mhz 65802        st2975@siucvmb.bitnet   */

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas)
Subject: Cracking disks (Neuromancer GS, Keif The Theif)
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 08:17:47 GMT

Ugh!  I have a couple new games from Big Red, and they both have copy
protection (unlike Out of This World): "Neuromancer" and "Keif the
Theif", both for the IIGS.

Checking Copy II+ (8.something and 9.0), I cannot find these two games
listed.  Does anyone know how to de-protect these two rather obscure
games?

[Neuromancer is particularly annoying because you need that &$#%#@%&$
code-wheel every time you connect to the PAX.]
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(__)      "I am the terror that flaps in the night!  I am the"            (__) 
(__)              "chill that runs down your spine."       -Darkwing Duck (__)
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: archiving GIF files on the GS
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:28:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

********************* DEMPO Error Message ***********************
UNSENT MAIL!                            
NO NAME SPECIFIED!                      
From:	BITNET::INFO-APPLE@APPLE.COM
To:	
Subj:	Re: archiving GIF files on the GS

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Subject: Re: GS Built-in Modem port problems
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:19:56 GMT

In article <2B42E904.6316@ics.uci.edu> jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw) writes:
>Recently I've discovered that my SupraFaxModem's TR (Terminal
>readly) LED no longer lights up when turned on.  After some
>investigation, I came to the conclusion that neither the modem
>or the flow-control modem cable is at fault.  I then plugged the
>modem into the Printer port, and sure enough, the TR light came
>back on.  I've ran the IIgs Diagnostic v3.0 tests for the

I recently had a similar problem (well, actually, the modem didn't init
and TR was blinking like mad). Try to re-insert the plug into the modem
port - with me, it had just become loose.

	Tero Sand
-- 
	EMail: cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi   or   custts@cc.helsinki.fi
   "I feel most ministers who claim they've heard God's voice are eating
too much pizza before they go to bed at night, and it's really an 
intestinal disorder, not a revelation." - Reverend Jerry Falwell
From: jeffwm@dorsai.com (jeffrey Mintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Switch It
Date: 29 Dec 92 17:02:30 GMT
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy, New York's Computer Consulate. +1.718.729.5018

Jawaid ....this is REALLY great!  I am VERY impressed!
Jeffwm@Delphi.com
From: henigan@quando.quantum.de (Kevin Henigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Need to connect IIC to car (lighter plug) possible?
Date: 3 Jan 93 12:10:31 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software GmbH, Dortmund, Germany

In article <24DEC199212524573@pavo.concordia.ca> ce_rupn@pavo.concordia.ca (RUPNIK, CHRISTOPHER E.) writes:
>Hi
>	I was wondering if anybody has had any experience running the IIC with
>the plug in a car. I know that some sort of converter is needed but is that all?

no converter, just the correct lead, the //c runs from 12V DC no problem.

When the //c is running, don't start the car or let the battery run to low.

>I remember there was talk of this a little while back, but if anybody could 
>remind me of the outcome, if the IIC  be truly "portable"

portable, well :-

Internally the normal //c monitor runs on 12V, a friend has added a socket
for me so I can run my //c monitor from 12V too. With a large 12V battery
this setup would be portable, ( the monitor and //c draw about 2 Amps. )

>Also, i am still looking for a place that ofers the LCD screens for the IIC
>if you have one, or you know of a place, please tell me! thanks

With an LCD screen it's even better, I'm looking for one too.

>ce_rupn@pavo.concordia.ca


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: neville@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Neville Smith)
Subject: Re: Comments Anyone?
Reply-To: neville@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Neville Smith)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:11:52 GMT

In article <ln74589@pro-scat.cts.com> tonyh@pro-scat.cts.com (Tony Hamaoui) writes:
>I agree PC's are better.  first of all their are more programs for         
>the PC than the MAC.  second of all the MAC's are more expensive than      
>the PC's and third of all the MAC are always discontinued within           
>4 or 5 months.  If you get a PC that says "intel inside" you know          
>you will have that computer for a while. IBM cares about the consumer      
>while APPLE cares about money, money, money "    "  "    " etc

Hahaha, that's the biggest load of unthoughtful rubbish I've ever heard.

I've never flamed anyone, and don't intend taking it up as a hobby
but that message sent me into uncontrollable giggles.
:-)
All replies sent to /dev/null...

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From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Real Basic Questions
Date: 30 Dec 1992 06:10:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


It looks like I'm going to learn a lot more about InterNet and FidoNet as I'm
going to be acting as a Hub for a Node within Ogg-Net that carries those
2 conferences. On of them being this one. I'm not sure at this time how it is
even going to work, all I know is a lot of work has to be done since the
boards on our network allow Handles and that one question will have to be
answered first by making a conversion from handles to names for the net. I
am really interested in it through I'm going to wonder how it will be to
wake up in the morning to a couple hundred newe messages when in a normal
transfer in our net 50 or 60 is average.

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