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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:22:49 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Chalk-o (typo, actually)

>Who was it that was looking for them?  This is the second time in the past few
>weeks that I've omitted "not" ...

Ha! I already have a macro which inserts a new "NOT" line in the text,
thus allowing me to correct such mistakes. To take a random example:

> Surely the use of ...NOT is limited to those who watch SNL or have seen _WW_.
>...NOT!
> Besides, she teaches in a high school, and her knowledge of teen talk must be
> prety good - right, Nancy?

Cool, huh?

tushar
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      FYFI
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....as...
From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester)
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Date: 17 Nov 92 20:39:57 GMT
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              16 Nov 1992 17:08:19 CST from <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:08:19 CST <samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>I didn't say this. Wrong prediction, friend.
>
   So much for tushie being able to predict every response i make....
so much for his omniscience and omnipotence....

dan
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:42:21 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
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On Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:49:00 EST, "gilbertsmith" <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
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> If you mean, ruthie, <Generation> Gap, then you're up to here in it.
> First of all, I don't believe in a generation gap.  Second, I think

I thought she meant the Atlantic!

G
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:43:50 EST
From:         Charles Cochran <CCOCHRAN@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: fresh meat!

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:52:00 CDT Cowgirl Librarian said:
>
>        There are virtually (:) ) lots of places similar to this one
>but nothing can top it...... BTW, I've been doing reverse lurking - I
>jumped righ
>in when I subscribed but then started lurking. Gets a little fast and
>furious around here!
>
>Scarlett

Oh, don't lurk, sweet Scarlett. How are we going to have fun unless we
are in the <middle> of things?
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:43:26 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Ethnomethodology
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I was talking while ago with the person who teaches our Language and Culture
course and asked her how she would explain ethnomethodology to a WORDS-L
questioner.  She said I should probably have emphasized the methodology more.
Ethnomethodology involves going into a different culture with no particular
hypothesis to explore, gathering as much as you can of the language and
context, and then looking through raw data for ideas.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester)
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Subject: Re: Presley's ancestral abode
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:18:36 GMT
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              14 Nov 1992 13:32:00 EST from <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>

On Sat, 14 Nov 1992 13:32:00 EST Blue eyes cryin' in the rain said:
>>: and next to the "'Not a morning person' doesn't even begin to cover it"
>
>        Don't recall where I got it, but I'll be looking.
>
   Well, when you find them, get TWO copies for me....i'll pay
unattractively, if not handsomely....

dan
      (whose father taught him that "any morning that starts before noon
          is no damn good".....and whose father was correct)

      (copy two is for my daughter, cinda)
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      A Train & A Bird

Good Morning,

Well, the Wabbash Cannonball made it's last run with its most famous
passenger....and that passenger departed this world on the wings of a
Great Speckled Bird.  Mr. Accuff was 89.

(I heard Roy sing both these songs on three or four different occasions,
 but must admit the last time I did not think he would finish ....but he
 was 87 at the time>

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      A Words Question

*** Resending note of 11/17/92 17:20

>I just thought of something.  How could a "low or sunken wall" serve as
>a defensive wall?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Natalie, Mississippi has an excellent example of "low or sunken wall"
serving as a defensive wall!  Have you not been to Vicksburg?

But of course, if you didn't recall a cemetary just a block and a half
away........ ;-)
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:08:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: To <be> or *not* to <be>
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> I propose that -ggs submit a response or two of his to the list in
> unwakated form; that he prepare the wakated versions and send them by
> private mail to four or five trustworthy people, who can post the
> correct versions after -ts has run the unwakated versions through
> the <word grinder> and obtained the <output>.  That would probably
> check the complaint in -ggs's coda:
> .
> : Now, is that *clear*?
> : No more throwing these things around as if they were not
> : <meaningful>, as if they were full of sound and fury,
> : <signifying> *nothing*.
>
> Steve Karlson
>
> Anonymous Referee and List Motorman

I really like this idea, but I am totally stumped at this point.
The <problem> is, where on this list can I find four or five
trustworthy people?  We could have a contest, and everybody
send me the names (by private mail) of the five most trustworthy
posters and then I could tabulate the scores and reveal who won
and who got *no* votes.
Who remembers how many <good> people Lot was supposed to find in
Sodom to keep God from destroying the city?  Surely brad the
baptist remembers.  And why did his wife get turned into a pillar
of *salt*?  why not *pepper*? Or *mole'* sauce?
So, how many <good> people do I have to find to keep this list
from being destroyed by a firestorm?
--ggs
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:02:37 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Handbook for Torture?
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>My undergrad research group, the one I asked you all the reconstruction
>methods question for, has moved on...  Now we would like to find out
>about torture.  What is the purpose of torture?  Is it mental or
>physical?  We were wondering if there is a standard handbook, like the
>60's terrorist handbook for bomb-making?
>
>Karen

You are not kidding?

There are both mental and physical tortures.

There are many purposes: E.g., to get people to give up information
they would not willingly give; or make statements they would not
willingly make (such as admitting to performing witchcraft, or
converting to a particular religion); just because some people
think it's fun to hurt others; to punish people.

I have not heard of a "standard" book, like the Anarchist's
Cookbook, for torture.

What is the point of this study group, please?

judith
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:07:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: FYFI
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> > Coming from *you*, sis, that is a <complement>.
> > --ggs (your bad brother...)
>
> Hrrrmmmmpppphhhh.  Your mama dresses you funny.
> doris (your angelic sister)

My mama frequently dressed me as a <girl>.  Ohmygod.
--ggs (who still loves earrings....)
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:07:24 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A Words Question
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> :Maybe not what you're looking for, but in the ballpark? Boulevard vs bulwark?
>
> No! I have it now - escarpment, right?

But escarpment means the same thing in French and English, doesn't it?
I'm guessing that boulevard might be the answer.  I just forwarded that
suggestion to the person who asked.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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Subject: A Words Question
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:16:03 GMT
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A friend of mine is trying to remember an English word that is derived
from a French word referring to a low or sunken wall, originally designed
as a defensive wall but now normally used as a decorative wall in a garden.
The English word means something different, but he can't remember what.
Any answers out there?  I guessed mural, but he said that's not it.

I just thought of something.  How could a "low or sunken wall" serve as
a defensive wall?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:08:49 GMT
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In a previous article, MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu ("Michael E. Macmillan") says:

>>I have right now thought of a much cooler question - everybody check
>>this out: WHY is it that we say "running around like a chicken with
>>its head cut off?" Has anyone SEEN a chicken with its head cut off?
>>Why should anyone use this phrase?
>
>Well, this suggests a question to me too.  Has anyone ever actually
>seen a Chinese fire drill?
>
No, but six friends of mine pulled one in front of the local police station
recently.  [no, they didn't know the station was there]  The cops pulled
them over afterward, but were laughing too hard to pass out citations.:-)
That particular light has to be the longest in town, even after 9pm.....

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
From: harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell)
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Subject: Re: Blast From The Past (Long!
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:38:22 GMT
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On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU wrote:

> [about macphil]
> I got mail from him yesterday; it seems to be fine.  He has a new job,
> so his netaccess will be through compuserve.

I wonder how long before he's clawing at the walls trying to get usenet
access back.

-abh
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: First Green Message
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1992, Kip Shaw wrote:

> I have signed on to this discussion group just a while ago and so I am
> a newcomer to this friendly group.

Spider: Come right in.
Fly: (the welcome message said this group was friendly)

> My pseudonym name is Kip Shaw.
> Some call me: Kish (to rhyme with Quiche).

Nice to meet you, Kish. Ever been stranded on an island with a feral hog?

-abh
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:43:14 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1992, Doris Smith wrote:

> > --ggs (expecting the Democrats to *give* me lots of stuff
> > in the years to come....)

Well, gigggles, you better not grab for the soap the first time the demos
say they've dropped it, else they'll be <giving> you some <stuff> you
hadn't planned on. The wallet grab is just <foreplay> to the <high hard
one> that is in store for all of us. And if you want shrill cronelike
wailing and gnashing of teeth, you just wait until the first big tax hike
hits us and I promise to give you all a <show> like nothing ever written
about in your handy-dandy <New-Age> organic recipe and solar-power-tools
handbook.

-abh
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Imposter
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Posted on 21 Nov 1992 at 18:23:11 by Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-40

>And tell me Superman isin't really dead......I listened to him on radio,
>centuries ago, and KNEW nothing but kryptonite could kill him.....

I think the problem is the proliferation of kryptonite that began
when they started making all those bicycle locks out of it.

Tony H.
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Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*

> > Maybe Clinton will do what LBJ did when asked about his war wounds.
> > On Larry King.
>
> Now *that* would make a nice photo Christmas card.  I want one.
> --ggs (it could carry the greeting "Look what Santa left for me under
>   the tree...a little elf....)

Gilbert G. Smith, you are a very sick person.  That is the highest
compliment I can pay anyone on a Friday afternoon after the week I've
had, so be complimented, sir.

Ken ("Still crazy after all these years")
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Subject: Things that make you go *sigh*
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:51:55 GMT
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Well, well, well...Clinton has decided that the best way handle his
campaign promise to elevate gays from the status of <vile beast> in the
military is to appoint a commission which will bury, er, study the matter.
That's the last we'll ever hear about this issue.

-abh
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Quiet ...and Pleasantly Surprised.

Not so much by WORDS-L being so quiet but by being able to help a dear,
old friend.  My second wife (deceased) has an elderly aunt in Winter Haven
(about 60 miles from USF) and as I now live an additional 20 miles further
away, and have many new family involvements (where Nadine was an only child,
no children, parents deceased, Joyce has brothers, sisters, parents and
married children) I don't see the dear lady very often ...but told her I
would always help her, if needed.  Well, she called me last night ...wants
me to go to junk yard and get taillight lens for her car ...she backed
into something and is now afraid to drive car without lens cover.  She
did not learn to drive until about age 60 (when her husband went blind,
he now deceased, they had no children, and no more living relatives).
Well she has the same car as when I first met her, 22 years ago.  It's a
1960 Chevy plain barge ...no power anything, no air, 6 cyl, automatic, and
drives like a tank.  She rarely exceeds 35 with it and I expect the car
hardly has 50,000 miles on it.  But find one that old in a Tampa junkyard?
No way.  So what is pleasant surprise?  Called local Chevy dealer and they
ordered me a new lens, $6.60, about a week delivery time.  I know, nothing
sophisticated or whatever about all this, just felt good to be able to help.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Subject: Re: fresh meat!
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:57:51 GMT
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1992 13:45:36 -0600 Anne Burton Harwell said:
>
>Well, now, a newbie who makes me <smile>. How long you been lurking?

Hi. Not long -- just long enough to get a feel for how out of the
ordinary this list is. I have actually only had my bitnet account for a
couple of weeks, and I've already discovered this e-place. Makes me
wonder what else might be out there.

I'm glad I made you smile. It's not every day I get a chance to play
around with risque business.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:50:23 EST
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!!!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Evelyn
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:37:02 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: "Wimmin" "Womyn" - Historical Roots?
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> First question: Some people use spellings such as "womyn".  Who uses
> these forms?

People who object to "men" inside "women."  (Waiting to hear Dan's response
on this one...)

>  What other words belong in the set?

I don't know unless you include some of the words coined for use as generic
pronouns -- which would not be exactly the same thing, of course.

>  What more is there to it?

What more is there to what?

> Second question: Some people assume that such spellings are modern and
> without historical basis, whereas others suggest historical roots.  Where do
> these spellings come from?

I *think* I've read some things about where they came from, but I can't
remember off the top of my head.  I'll see whether I can find anything
about it when I'm in my office later today -- unless somebody else comes
through with definitive answers before then.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject: Egg Slots ... again
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              "samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU" at Nov 18, 92 10:12 pm

> By the way, that reminds me: have you noticed how fridges tend to have
> ELEVEN slots for eggs? It's really annoying to see a lone egg sitting
> in the second row. I don't understand why manufacturers don't realize
> this.

Not all have eleven, Tushar.  My refrigerator has eight slots.  And some
grocery stores sell cartons with eight eggs in them.   Darned convenient, I say.

rashmi
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:06:17 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: One simple (?!) question
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> >Croning marks the *entrance* into this stage, which of course evolves over
> >the next thirty or forty years or so.  This is definitely something of
> >which every woman who achieves it should be proud.
> Amen!

I'm thinking about having a croning celebration next March, but I have
lots of questions.  Is it ok to host your own croning, or does somebody
else need to do it?  Exactly what do people do at a croning?  And what if
I gave a croning and nobody came?  Would it be a black mark on the rest
of my life?  Do cronings have to take place in the woods?  Can men come too?
How should an invitation to a croning be worded?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     Proud To Be Old
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject: Re: Another Contest

*** Resending note of 11/20/92 09:31

>There is some little I-don't-know-what in this which strikes me as
>false. You are lying, Don.

I never lie ....at least about important stuff.

>By the way, Don seems to be showing slightly different - dare I say
>more normal? - characteristics lately. I take at least partial credit.

>tushar

Well you certainly will have to take credit .....I'm not giving it,
partial or otherwise.
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Another Contest
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I just thought of another contest.  Look at this post from
another list (pertinent information deleted to disguise the
source):
.
> I'd appreciate receiving information on any distribution list specifically
> devoted to ****************** *and* other than ******-L.  If some of you have
> received a similar message from me, through other list regarding Medieval
> Literature, and think I am either crazy or stupid, all I can tell you is that
> I am also wondering about that; I can also present you with my apologies,
> which I gladly do.

We could spend the next few days voting on *which* wordslers would be
most likely to post a message like this.  Then, I could tabulate the
votes and tell everybody how everybody voted and then ......
No, bad idea.
--ggs (just getting over the <injury> and the effects of the
       medicine.....  back to normal, happy to say)
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