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From: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob essensa
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:19:12 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

In article <93011.132854RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <C0G5p4.9EF@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, ummak027@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Anson Sen
>Sau Mak) says:
>>Yesterday when I heard a sport program at the local radio station, someone
>>phone in the program and asked the Jets to trade Bob Essensa because he
>>played crapply! The commentator were shocked, and said they never heard
>>some used "crapply" refering to Bob. Any thought on this?
>>Anson
>   I've long been a big Bob Essensa fan - he's one of the key reasons why I
>thought the Jets would finish 2nd in the Smythe last year.  After only giving
>up two goals last night in a 3-2 victory over the Pens, I think it's safe to
>say he doesn't play 'crapply.'
>** Rob **

Since the topic of Essensa came up, I have a comment about the Jets-Kings
game on ESPN.  The two announcers spent the whole night mis-pronouncing
his name!  Everytime they opened their mouths it was different (ok, that's
an exageration, but....).

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From: vstem@cobra.calgary.chevron.com (D. Stewart McLeod)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: puck in wrong net?
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:06:53 GMT
Organization: chevron

In article <1993Jan8.152836.29901@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk) writes:
|> In article <cfHMPbm00WBK81NWMi@andrew.cmu.edu>, Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> |> 
|> |> I've seen old film clips of football players picking up fumbles and
|> |> running the wrong way with the ball.  I know that in hockey players
|> |> occasionally put the puck in their own net but it's always been a
|> |> "quick" mistake around the goal mouth.  I was wondering if any player
|> |> has actually skated in on his own goaltender and scored.  Has anyone
|> |> ever seen this happen?
|> |> 
|> |> Mom.
|> |> 
|> |> 
|>   I have seen two occasions that come close to your requirements;
|>  
|>  In the early 1980s Vancouver was playing in Toronto, Vancouver was nursing a
|> one goal lead when they were called for icing. Vancouver won the draw and Thomas
|> Gradin picked up the puck along the boards to the right of the faceoff dot. 
|> Since he had his back to the blueline he chose to drive the puck around the glass
|> behind his own net. Instead he drilled an impressive shot in the top corner of
|> his own net. Needless to say, the Vancouver goalie couldn't believe what had
|> happened.

I believe the team Vancouver was playing was the Oilers. And if my memory serves
me correct, the Oilers won in overtime.

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From: hunt7551@mach1.wlu.ca (len hunt 9208 U)
Subject: Re: leafs (PLAYOFFS and EXPANSION DRAFT)
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:36:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.153023.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>> Does anyone think the leafs will make the playoffs this year?
>> Or even win the Stanley Cup?
> 
>IMO...
> 
> 
>Speaking of the expansion draft and that each team can only protect 
>1 goalie, is it possible that the Leafs could make a deal with another 
>team that would benefit both during the draft and then swap the 
>players back to their original teams afterwards?
> 
>For example, (as far as I know) each team can protect 9 forwards, 5 
>defenseman, and 1 goalie.  So, let's say Buffalo had 6 defenceman and
>0 goalie they wanted to protect and Toronto had 4 defencemen and 2 
>goalies they wanted to protect.  Could Toronto trade a goalie (Potvin) 
>to Buffalo for defenceman-x, either team could protect said players,
>and then at the end of the season they could trade the players back to 
>their original teams?  
> 
>I know it's theoretically possible, but would this be legal?  Who the 
>NHL management come down on the teams for pulling something like this?
> 
>I think that Fletcher wouldn't mind trading Fuhr, but I think he'd 
>like to keep him at least for this year's playoffs.
> 
>Stephen Leaf, er... Legge
>SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca

I am sure this swapping of a player has happened before involving Winnipeg
and ????.  Winnipeg received the goalie and protected him and then sent him
back to his original team.  Winnipeg received slightly more back on the
second trade as a reward for doing this.  The league frowned upon this
action and fined both teams later in the season.  I don't think the league
would allow this to happen again.

Len Hunt
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From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (KIRK MULLER or LARRY WALKER)
Subject: Leeman and Iafrate
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:43:56 GMT

In article <vzhivov.726422107@cunews> vzhivov@alfred.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov) writes:
>Al MacInnis was not in the All-Star game two years ago when Iafrate
>won. MacInnis won it last year in Philadelphia. By the way, did Leeman
>screw Iafrate's wife or the other way around?
>                                                  Vlad the Impaler

Leeman and Iafrate's wife 'had an affair' (such language on a 'family'
newsgroup :-)
I was under the impression that Iafrate and his wife were separated or
even divorced when it happened, but I'm still glad Kordic beat the
sh|t out of Leeman.

 
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From: smith@phobos.cira.colostate.edu
Subject: Re: Jagr/Ruzicka/Klima
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:35:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: smith%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State Univ, CIRA

In article <1993Jan9.083623.15054@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes:
>
>Okay, let's see if I have this straight...
>
>Jaromir Jagr: Arrogant S.O.B. who stupidly picks fights with his own teammates.
>
>Petr Klima: Formerly Probert's drinking buddy/doghouse mate.
>
>Vladimir Ruzicka: Harry Sinden's (current) problem child, thinks strike means
>end of season, eats too much deli food, illegally parks his black Mercedes.
>
>
>If I'm not mistaken, all three of these guys are from the (former?) country of
>Czechoslovakia.  Someone tell me a good story about an NHL'er from there, 
>before I get a complex!!! :) :)
>-- 
>******************************************************************************
>Dan Lyddy    daniell@cory.berkeley.edu    University of California at Berkeley
>                 "Ah-kay iss ma pas-SHON."  -- Manon Rheaume
>******************************************************************************

I think the Statsny Brothers Peter, Anton and Marion? are from Czechoslovakia.
They had a reputation of being hard workers while playing for the Nordiques.
Peter had a bad slump the second half of the season with the Devils. He also
had a contract dispute at the beginning of this season.

Maybe to be accurate
in stereotyping European hockey players we should find out whether Klima, Jagr,
Rosie, and the Statsnys are from Slovakia or Czechland.  

I believe Slovakia is much more rural and under-developed than the Czech half.

Smitty

smith%phobos.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu


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From: yang@acs.ucalgary.ca (David Yang)
Subject: Re: Sharks lose to Canadiens 4-1
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 21:56:41 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey

In article <1ifplqINN32t@network.ucsd.edu>, kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim)
wrote:
> 
> In article <1993Jan6.032531.12983@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>===============================================================================
> >GO CALGARY FLAMES!  Mike Vernon for Vezina!  Gary Roberts for Hart and Selke!
> >===============================================================================
> 
> I LIKE IT.  In fact I dare you to use this as your .sig as long as Calgary is
> in first or second place in the Smythe.  Realistically, no matter how well
> Mikey plays for the rest of the season, as long as Roy doesn't get hurt,
> the sports writers will vote him the Vezina.  As long as Mario stays
> healthy, he is a shoe-in for the Hart and Ross.  I think the only 
> Flames that have a chance at individual trophies are C.J. Young for the
> Calder and Gary Roberts for the Lady Byng (although Roberts might get some
> competition from Kevin Stevens).^^^^^^^^^
> 

I don't see a smiley here Isaac. Roberts or Stevens will never win the Lady
Byng trophy.  Roberts already has over a 100 minutes in penalties. Vernon
will beat 
Roy in Vezina voting, but as of now my money is on Belfour winning it. 

Best chance for a Flame to win a trophy is Dave King for the Adams. 

-Dave.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: shoe@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Mark Shoesmith)
Subject: Re: leafs (PLAYOFFS and EXPANSION DRAFT)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:14:41 GMT

In article <C0p1w8.5w5@mach1.wlu.ca> hunt7551@mach1.wlu.ca (len hunt 9208 U) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.153023.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>>> Does anyone think the leafs will make the playoffs this year?
>>> Or even win the Stanley Cup?
>> 
>>IMO...
>> 
>> 
>>Speaking of the expansion draft and that each team can only protect 
>>1 goalie, is it possible that the Leafs could make a deal with another 
>>team that would benefit both during the draft and then swap the 
>>players back to their original teams afterwards?
>> 
>>For example, (as far as I know) each team can protect 9 forwards, 5 
>>defenseman, and 1 goalie.  So, let's say Buffalo had 6 defenceman and
>>0 goalie they wanted to protect and Toronto had 4 defencemen and 2 
>>goalies they wanted to protect.  Could Toronto trade a goalie (Potvin) 
>>to Buffalo for defenceman-x, either team could protect said players,
>>and then at the end of the season they could trade the players back to 
>>their original teams?  
>> 
>>I know it's theoretically possible, but would this be legal?  Who the 
>>NHL management come down on the teams for pulling something like this?
>> 
>>I think that Fletcher wouldn't mind trading Fuhr, but I think he'd 
>>like to keep him at least for this year's playoffs.
>> 
>>Stephen Leaf, er... Legge
>>SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
>
>I am sure this swapping of a player has happened before involving Winnipeg
>and ????.  Winnipeg received the goalie and protected him and then sent him
>back to his original team.  Winnipeg received slightly more back on the
>second trade as a reward for doing this.  The league frowned upon this
>action and fined both teams later in the season.  I don't think the league
>would allow this to happen again.
>
>Len Hunt

It happened with Winnipeg and Philadelphia about 4 or 5 seasons ago.
Winnipeg protected Hextall for the Flyers, and received a low level draft
pick for their trouble.  I don't recall what the league's disciplinary
action was. 

Mark S.                        
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Subject: Re: Who the HELL is doing Pens color?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:11:06 GMT


    For the PenVision games, Pierre LaRouche (no relation to Lyndon) has
been doing the color, with Steigy roaming the building to conduct interviews
during RADIO commercial breaks, as PPV only goes to commercials for 1-2 mins
between periods.
    Originally, Bryan Trottier was supposed to do color on the later games, but apparently someone in the front office enjoys Pierre.

Later.

If you shuffle JAROMIR, you get MARIO JR;
If you shuffle TIE DOMI, you get ME IDIOT.

Kevin Stamber
Purdue University

COWHER POWER!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry)
Subject: Re: Alex = scoring machine
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:01:33 GMT

In article <C0Bypw.EEK@acsu.buffalo.edu> v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew
W Korbut) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.071327.22008@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>,
golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes...
>> 
>>Actually it is 36 goals in 32 games (he has missed six games) and I think
>>38 goals in 33 games after tonight...since I think he got two more on
>>Sunday...
>> 
>>....does anyone know if games missed through injury count in the fastest
>>fifty goals record...if they don't he has a shot at Gretzky's 50 goals
>>in 39? games.
>
>Dunno, I vaguely remember a minor ruckus last year when it appeared that
>LaFontaine had a chance to do it despite missing a bunch of games at the
>start of the season.  I don't think anything was resolved then, either.
>But the only pertinent record in the NHL Guide is titled "Most Goals, 50
>Games From Start Of Season".  Even that is ambiguous, but I think it means
>the first 50 games that the TEAM plays, not the individual.  The marks of
>the record holders seem to imply this (everyone except Richard hit 50 games
>in late January).
>
>Players to hit 50 in 50:
>
>Gretzky (3 times - 61 was his max), Lemieux (54), Hull (twice - 52), Bossy
(50)
>
>I believe 2 other players hit 50 in THEIR first 50 games, but I don't really
>remember who or when.
>
>Just as an aside, I swear that one of these games at the Aud, I'm gonna go
>up to the oranges, find the morons who hang these idiotic signs, and throw
>them over the balcony.  There was an actual sign at the game reading "Brett
>May Be Nifty But He Never Had Fifty In Fifty".  Give me a break.
>
>The problem may be that all these signs are designed by arrangement with some
>local high school or something, and most signs that show any sort of
>originality, humor, or sarcasm are immediately removed by security.  Like the
>big one that said "Better Dead Than Red" in Russian the last time the Soviets
>came calling.  Made it to the USA Today, but didn't make the 1st period before
>the Gestapo came calling...
>
>Instead, there are these insipid, milquetoast banners (like "Lady Di Has A
>New Prince - Alex"... what the hell is that supposed to mean anyway?  We'll
>be seeing Mogilny in the Enquirer?) that are apparently the only ones
>implicitly allowed by Sabre management.  Good thing Bill Polian of the Bills
>hasn't gotten any ideas from this - he's a fascist as it is.
>
> Dr.D [The Devils Advocate]        "Drinkin' & women & guns don't mix..."
> v057p7nk@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
> awkorbut@acsu.buffalo.edu                      - Mark Arm
>

	Correct me if I'm wrong, but son't the Sabres put them dumb things up?  Notice
how they all are the same handwriting, and all equally square?  Or maybe it is
the booster club  This is the same team that hands out hats when someone has a
chance to get a hat trick.

	I went to my first game in years on new years eve, and one thing I noticed was
the sign for Crossroads. Any news on when they'll build it? 

Bill
From: p7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Anthony Jang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Stan Fischler, 1/9
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:17:16 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: gambier.rick.cs.ubc.ca

(Y. Tremblay) writes:
[stuff from previous post deleted]
>>What position does Bourque play?  I'm wondering who would go after him.
>>(For example, I know the FLYERS would love a left winger...)
>>
>>Fred
>
>Wow !!!!   One of the best of the year !!!  Fred, how long have you been 
>following hockey ?  
[...]
>
>For the trade:  I think it would be a mistake by the Canucks.  Even if 
>Bourque is at the moment a better player than Linden (and almost anybody),
>he is starting getting old and will probably not play at this level for 
>very long.  Linden is still young and can rebound after this season.
>In addition, Vancouver are not a serious contender for the cup, so for
>giving their future.  Only a team looking for the missing piece to get the
>cup this year or next year should be looking at Bourque.
>
>Yannick

Wow !!!!  One of the best of the year !!!  Yannick, how long have you been
following hockey ?

If you don't think Vancouver has a legitamite shot at the cup tell me what
is wrong with them.  Are they scoring too many goals?  Allowing too few?

They have been in the top 3 (or better) in GF and GA, have two (damn that
new expansion draft) solid goalies.  They also have 6 players on a pace
to get 80+ point season including one that should get 60+ goals.

Now, back to the trade...

As Gerald O pointed out Cam Neely II.  That has to be the biggest fear
for management.  But at least Bourque unlike whatshisname has proven
himself for more than two years.  If I was Pat Quinn I'd do it if it was
strictly one for one (maybe I'd throw in a mid round pick).  IMHO, Bourque
is the exact player the Canucks (and probably 20 other teams) need.

Tony
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From: Vincent Trinh
Subject: Re: Pens-6 Bruins-2
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:48:50 GMT

>Mario Lemieux, the league's leading scorer, removed himself from the game
>early in the second period.  It was reported later that he again was suffering
>from a stiff back (which caused him to leave the Rangers came late in the 3rd).
>Lemieux will be evaluated today, at which time it will be decided on whether
>he should sit out a few games to give his back a rest.  Lemieux had no points
>last night.

finally... I was wondering when baby Mario was going to get injured again.
To bad he got injured so soon ... I had a bet that he would get injured
late january. Oh well, can't win them all.

vtrinh@ee.ubc.ca

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From: s442092@nexus.yorku.ca (Bernard Majarais)
Subject: leafs
Originator: s442092@nexus.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:22:40 GMT


Im posting for my cousin.

Does anyone think the leafs will make the playoffs this year?
Or even win the stanley cup?

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From: johng@lloyd.Camex.COM (John Gemellaro)
Subject: Re: BOSTON: Reason for Bourque's Unhappiness?
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:57:44 EST

In article <19496@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
>I hear that Bourque is upset with Bruins' management. When did this happened?
>What caused it? Has it been overplayed in the media?
>
  This story was in the Boston Globe last week, it originated out of Toronto.
  Bourque denied it, as did management. 


John Gemellaro
DuPont/Camex,Inc.  75 Kneeland St. Boston, MA  02111   
johng@camex.com   
I must be getting better, the divots are smaller!
From: bspencer@cs.mcgill.ca (Brian SPENCER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Latest Habs trade rumour
Date: 10 Jan 93 06:25:23 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

I heard an interesting trade rumour today (this is only a rumour). The
Montreal Canadiens apparently offered defenseman Eric Desjardins to the
Ottawa Senators for a bucket of pucks. The Senators declined the offer
saying that even though he has offensive abilities, he couldn't clear a
75 year old lady from out in front of the net. Too bad. We really could
have used those pucks here in Montreal.





As you can tell, I'm not happy with Desjardins. In short, he hasn't
played well since he was chosen to the Canada Cup team two summers ago.
Even though he scored in tonight's game against the Leafs, he and his
partner Daigneault played especially bad defensively, which prompted me
to write this post.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: Brad_Couch@mindlink.bc.ca (Brad Couch)
Subject: Whaddya mean Bossy never got 50 in 50!
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:25:21 GMT

> EVAN pritchard writes:
>
> >[Many people talking about who scored 50 goals in fifty games...]
> >>
> >>How soon people forget.....Maurice "the Rocket" Richard set the record
> with
> >>50 in 50.  The season he did it was only 50 games long as far as I
> recall.
> >>
> >Didn't Mike Bossy do it, also???
>
>         Uh, no, Mike didn't.  Only Richard, Gretzky, and Hull (Bret)
> have scored 50 in 50 (or less).
>

Mike Bossy did in fact score 50 in 50.  He was the first player to match
Maurice Richard's "unattainable" feat.  Made HUGE headlines everywhere.
Since Wayne and Mario and Brett and everyone else started achieving 50 in 50,
the mark just doesn't have the same kind of status.

  - Brad "I have no signature" Couch

PS Pavel is next. :)

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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Hull a Bruin???
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:03:21 GMT

p_emond@pavo.concordia.ca (PATRICK EMOND) writes:
>
>This is only a rumor, heard on the noon sports news here in Montreal...
>
>Brett Hull to Boston for Joe Juneau + picks, cash, warm bodies, etc.

Actually, there have been a few Brett Hull rumours floating about the
past few weeks ... to the Kings for Blake and Robitaille (<-- if Luc
is in the rumour, you can tell that it's not true (-;); to the Rangers
for Doug Weight and/or Darren Turcotte or any other mix/match from the
swollen 27 player roster; to the Devils for a rumour that I missed off
of that night's Stan Fischler gossip (SCNY got moved to channel 99
from channel 19, which gets cellular phone interference; it's being
shifted up to 19 now).

Fischler did report in a December gossip segment that Hull was getting
under the skin of his teammates during practice and running off at the
mouth against the club on local radio ...

gld
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