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From: kong@mel.dit.csiro.au (Alan Kong)
Subject: Re: looking_for_boyfriend
Keywords: looking_for_boyfriend
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:46:08 GMT


In article <9235211.6209@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, leong@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Kee Hoe LEONG) writes:
|> Hello:
|>  My name is Jenny Wong and i am an Australian Chinese (from Hong Kong).
|>  I am an Uni first year commerce student (1992). I study in Melbourne,vic.
|>  I am looking for a boyfriend age 23 or over. If anyone interested ,mail to
|>  wjenny@nyx.cs.du.edu ,tell me about your address(mail),e_mail address,
|>  age,height and occupation.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>  with love,
|>  jenny Wong.
|>  _____________

Are you serious? Are you looking for pen-pals or this is just another joke?

Alan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan)
Subject: Re: driver's license to drive in HK
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:36:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.081148.4267@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk> a053700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (kin ming fung) writes:
>In <1992Dec11.205646.16939@vela.acs.oakland.edu> wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan) writes:
>
>>If you have a US driver license, i think you can get a HK one right away
>>without taking any more test, but the thing is, you need to pay quite a
>>few money ($600 maybe? that's what i heard)
>
>Think again.  The above means you are giving up your US license to
>exchange for a bona fide HK driver's license.  Would be fun if you then
>exchange your HK license for a US license once you get back to the
>States.  --kin, CU, hk

Actually, from what i know, my friend get a HK driver's license but still
keep the US license, so there is no need to give up any of them

Fran

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: alvin@top.cis.syr.edu (Alvin Leung)
Subject: Iowa State Univ.
Organization: Syracuse University CIS Dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:55:40 EST

  Is there any can help me locate Vijay Vittal at Iowa State Univ.?
I think this person is a Prof.

Thank you.

Alvin

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From: xxmok@utagraph.uta.edu (xxmok)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Questions about gif file.
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:33:22 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
 Hi everybody !
   are there anybody who knows how to print a gif file on printer ?
   Do I need any software to accomplish that ? 
      I appreciate to all your helps !! Thank You !


                                           
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hui@apaturia.trl.OZ.AU (Alvaro Hui)
Subject: Re: One Joke A Day, No More Girls Say No Way
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:56:39 GMT

cheung@hw.stratus.com writes:

>"Never, never marry, my friend!  That is my advice to you: never marry 
>till you can say to yourself that you have done all you are capable of 
>doing, and till you have ceased loving the woman you have chosen and can 
>see her clearly, or you will make a cruel and irrevocable mistake.  Marry 
>when you are old and no longer good for anything, otherwise all that fine
>and noble in you will be lost--all wasted on trifles."

>......

>"you talk of Bonaparte--why, when he was working toward his goal, he went
>forward step by step; he was free; he had nothing except his goal to 
>consider, and he attained it.  But tie yourself to a woman and you're
>bound hand and foot--all freedom gone.  And all the hope and strength you
>have within you only weighs you down, tortures you with regret.  Drawing
>rooms, gossip, balls, vanity, frivolity--there you have the enchanted circle
>from which I am unable to escape."

While I agree all of your "advices" above, I do want to point out two
little points which I think are also worthwhile considering.

1) NOT all women are bossy or "tea -pot". Well, at least not all the
time, to be fair.

2) Some women do help in buliding your career by being your "secretary"
in various little things in life. e.g. cooking, laundarying & being
the commentator | "grammar checker" for all the reports you presents. 

Just my A$0.05,

A married man,
Alvaro,
a.hui@trl.oz.au
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung)
Subject: Corruption (Re: Economy of Hong Kong and China.. No more running dogs please!)
Organization: Objectivity Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:37:44 GMT

In article <5063@equinox.unr.edu> chiu@pyramid.unr.edu (Edward S.N.Chiu) writes:

>	(7)	With the establishment of ICAC, corruption has been
>		cut down tremendously. ICAC was established in 1973 and
>		its sole purpose is to eliminate corruption.
 .....
>	When asking why China is still a very unstable market to
>business people, I have an immediate answer: corruption. It is a fact
>that most CG officials are practising corruption. If you want a deal,
>you would better give the officials some 'presents'. Too many such
>government's involvement is really not nice. Too bad there is no ICAC
>in China. Those top officials just abuse the beautiful word
>"communism" and uses their rankings for power.

The success of ICAC is probably one of the proudest achievement in HK.

I think corruption is beginning to get out of hand in China, and if the
situation not rectified in time, it is going to be the seed for
social unrest (just like TAM and ShenZhen stock market scandal.)
A friend of mine told me the 'going price' for getting a 
telephone line in GongDong is 6000 yuan!  For foreign ventures
and local big business, 6000 is not a big deal and could be counted
as cost of doing business.  However, ordinary folks would have a hard
time in affording it.  If and when the economy lose steam, corruption
could well be the triggering issue for big trouble.

I am not optimistic that the success of ICAC in HK could be emulated in
China.  Afterall, it is widely believed that the military, which could
provide the stablization power to enforce anti-corruption measures,
itself is one of the biggest offenders in smuggling and corruption.

-cw-
From: Kelvin.Leung@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: My dismay (Chris Patten)
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:45:01 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Oops.  Sorry about the previous message. :-P

I agree with Lin Can wholeheartedly.  I think a lot of HK Chinese don't
really hate mainland Chinese.  It is the government that they dislike.  I
am sure within the government, there are people whose intentions are good.  
However, the government right now isn't doing what real communists are
supposedly to be doing.  

I always wonder about two things: 1) when I looked at some of the
high officials in China on TV, I noticed that they were carrying bags
with brand-names.  Though I don't pay too much attention on fashions, but I
can tell that some of the bags aren't cheap.  2) in the past few years, 
a lot of cars have been stolen from HK.  Where were they being sent to?  
some of the expensive ones were heading up north.  

I am sure not everyone in China has this mentality.  However, I wonder why
people still insist on sustaining communism when they themselves aren't 
following it.  Why not just be frank, open up and say they want material
needs?

Don't get me wrong.  I don't like capitalism at all.  I personally don't
believe in hurting another person in order to help myself climbing up
the social ladder.  If everone can truly give all he/she has, and to help
one another (essentially what Communism is based on), that' great.  Alas,
a lot of people dont' think that way.  Then why not open up and admit it?

I don't blame the pro-Chinese government advocates on this net.  However,
I have to agree with Can Lin that we should be open, ready to accept new and
foreign* ideas, and get rid of our ignorance.  (please note: the word foreign
here doesn't necessarily mean from another country.  It merely means anything
that we aren't used to).  

Thanks for listening.  

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin

PS: for those who keep telling us, HKers, not to look upon western 
    ideologies, may I ask one question: who invented the idea of communism
    in the first place?  

PPS: before someone calls me names, allow me to clarify for myself.  I dont
     care who comes up with what first.  It is the result and intention which
     count. 


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From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: My dismay (Chris Patten)
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:06:58 GMT
Distribution: world,local

jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:
>|> Just about all consulting contracts went to British companies.  That
>|> is a fact you could find in say, The Nineties Magazine (June or July, 92).
>|> However, not all construction contracts are awarded to the British
>|> companies, some went to Japanese and other countries.
>|> -cw-

>I don't see why so special about it when HK is a British colonies and HK itself
>cannot provide the expertise. US projects would first favour US companies, 
>German projects would first German companies.

Need I say more about this person ? Grossly ignorance ? Shallow
mentality ? An affront to human intelligence ? or is it that
when the British fart, it is fragrance to him . 

I can't argue with a person of this kind of mentality - therefore I 
rest my case ! I can't make him stoop lower !
From: garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: testing :)
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:57:11 GMT
Organization: Global Network Communication Technology Co.

Kelvin.Leung@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Kelvin Leung) writes:

> 
> Hi, 
> 
>        This is a test, please ignore...  NOT! :)
> 
> 
>        BTW, someone once asked whether it is wiser to buy a modem in
> HK.  Here's my suggestion: buy one from the States and bring it over.  
> HK modems tend to be slow and expensive.  I didn't know better... or else
> I would have gotten a ZyXel in the States before I get back.  I got a 
> OK one (2400baud+9600fax modem), and it sold for HK$1700--about US$200--
> which is roughly the price of a SupraFax (9600baud+9600fax).  I know
> the SupraFax's rom is a little buggy, but it is still many times better 
> than the one I am using now... so... take my advice.  If you intend to
> call BBS's in Hong Kong, bring a modem with you.  

You can get a Digicom Scout+ (v.32bis FaxModem) Internal at HK$ 2,350 or
external at HK$ 3,000 which is not very expensive. 


> 
>        Also, don't bother calling Samson's BBS (sorry, Samson ;-).  His
> BBS is -always- busy.  I have been sitting in front of this darn computer
> for 3-4 hours, trying to get thru just to post this message.  

May be you can try the system I am using.

-gary


garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng)
GloCom BBS - The BBS brings usenet/internet to Hong Kong Public (852)4925025
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: whleung@bcarh466.bnr.ca (Wai-Hung Leung)
Subject: Re: New albums release news
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:44:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.031840.4999@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk writes:
>OK, I just heard that Andy's album will release on Friday, and Leon's too (I
>really wonder this news about Leon's album, I think he released his album not
>long ago...anyway

Hmmm, I was told that his last album has only 2 new songs, and
that doesn't prevent his fans to buy it.  Hey, *it* includes a
booklet of his pictures! (Impression I get from talking with my 
friends who are his fan is that they talk more about the pictorial 
than the songs, funny eh?) If he has included all these new songs,
he could not make yet another round of profit, right?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wong@qucis.queensu.ca (Tak Shing Wong)
Subject: Re: driver's license to drive in HK
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:18:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.081148.4267@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk> a053700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (kin ming fung) writes:
>In <1992Dec11.205646.16939@vela.acs.oakland.edu> wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan) writes:
>
>>If you have a US driver license, i think you can get a HK one right away
>>without taking any more test, but the thing is, you need to pay quite a
>>few money ($600 maybe? that's what i heard)
>
>Think again.  The above means you are giving up your US license to
>exchange for a bona fide HK driver's license.  Would be fun if you then
>exchange your HK license for a US license once you get back to the
>States.  --kin, CU, hk

If you are holding a HK ID card, you cant use your US driving license.
This is illegal.
You need to apply for the HK driver's license but you dont need to 
give up your "valuable" US license. I heard these from the 
Transport Department in HK when I went back last year.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthanayanaka)
Subject: Re: Clubs in Hong Kong
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:26:51 GMT

In article 14842@cis.rand.org, caryho@cis.rand.org (Cary Ho) writes:
>
> Hi netters, this is probably a little premature on my part but I am
> thinking of going back to Hong Kong sometime next year.  I'd like to know
> what are some of the best clubs/resturants for music and people watching
> etc.  The last time I went to H.K. was five years ago and my friend took
> my to that famous lounge at the Regent Hotel and I had a blast just
> looking at the habor and the people, and the es'cargot(sp) wasn't bad
> either :-).  Thanks.
>
>
>***************************************************************************
> Cary K. Ho                       *   Still trying to catch up to my
> caryho@cis.rand.org              *   reading so I can quote somebody!
>***************************************************************************


I was in Hong Kong last year and was in a Club called "Cat Walk" or something 
like that. It was in the Sheraton Hotel (I think). It was quite expensive but 
they played great music (Club music) and had two separate dance floor.

---


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Michael C. KWAN)
Subject: Bye BYe BYE bYe bYE byE ByE bye !!!
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 02:46:24 GMT


Dear Netters,

	I am leaving, I would miss you so much !!!  Here is the list of 
'Good Bye' in different languages.


Good Bye (English)
Sayonara (Japan)
Paalam (Philippines)
Totsiens (Afrikaans)
Sala kahle, Hamba kahle (Zulu)
Yasou (Greek)
auf Wiedersehen (Deutsch, German)
Au Revoir (French)
addedee-addedee (Latin)
Ciao (Spanish)
Addio, Arrivederci (Spanish) 
Ha det bra, Adjoe (Norwegian)
Selamat Tinggal. Jumpa Lagi (Malay)
Favel (Danish)
Shalom (Hebrew)
Hasta la vista (Swartzeneggerian) 
Slan leat, Slan abhaile, Slan go foill (Gaelic, Irish)

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   |             |                         /  \
   |             |                        /    \
   |             |                       /      \
   |            \|                      /        \___|  (Chinese)



              /\                           Michael C. KWAN
       /\____/  \_                         mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au
      /           \                        mkwan@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au
     |  Australia  |                                                         
      \   ____    /                        University of Tasmania, Launceston
       \_/    \__/                         **********************************
               __                          * P.O.Box 447, Mowbray Heights,  *
               \/ <---- Tasmania           * 7248, Tasmania, Australia.     *
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_____________________________________________________________________________
  It is more important to get things right, than to get them fast but wrong !
From: nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Xmas
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:09:13 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <922813132816@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>, SHUMP@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 writes:
>>achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (positron) writes:
>>
>>
>>>Hey!  Proud christian,
>>
>>>please show some respect for non christians,
>>>(which would include more than 99% of all Chinese).
>>>A less offensive greeting would be ...
>>
>>
>>
>>>     Happy Holidays.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Go back to your church and pray to your
>>>white god.  Leave the rest of us alone.
>>
>>Hey!  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  God still loves you...:)  I am sure
>>Jesus is not ticked off at all!  :D
>>
>>Steve
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> How could you know that the God is white?
>                                          perry
I really don't think that 99% of all Chinese are non-christians.  We do 
celebrate
X'mas no matter we are christians or not since our culture is mixed w/ 
western, American, Chinese cultures.  Non-christians go out and have
fun.  Christians go to church.  Why is it offensive to you if people say Merry
X'mas and Happy New Year to you?  Hmmmm, maybe you are anti-christian.  You
may want to check out a band named Christian Death.  I find their stuff very
interesting.  Actually, they are not really anti-christian.  They are anti-
organized
religious, you know, those preachers on TV.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR
Curse me if you think it is offensive.  Ha, Ha!
BTW, christians can pray wherever they like, they don't have to go to a church.
From: alanip@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Alan M Ip)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:47:40 GMT
Subject: Re: * Hong Kong Employment Recruiting Survey *
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong


Hi there,

I saw this one on notes #488

anyway, I've sent mine already

-alan
From: mok@pa.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Lee Kwong Yiu's speech at Hong Kong
Date: 19 Dec 1992 23:13:43 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: vajra.pa.dec.com

In article <1992Dec19.114306.1906@nuscc.nus.sg>, eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE) writes:
> Hello there!
> 	Just like to point out that the name of the Senior Minister of
> S'pore is Mr Lee Kwan Yew. Hope that this will clear any doubts about
> the spelling of his name.
> Have a nice day!

Whatever.  A jerk no less.

Like some signs say outside of the protest against his visit to HK, "GET OUT!  YOU ARE NOT WELCOME!"

Charles
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: news@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Subject: TeSt
Organization: The Ohio State University
     It is my first time to use this news network. It is just a trail.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:42:51 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
From: nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey)
Subject: IDIOT MUSTAFA IBRAHIM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:55:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.163734.66958@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mine
s.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>>
>>      Muslims in Pakistan offered Jumma Prayer in one of the
>>      biggest temple in Sindh near Indus River.
>>

Honey, you shouldn't overwork yourself like this. You are still sick and
need absolute rest.


Nishit
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Sati's history
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:40:44 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:

>There seems to be some confusion of terminology here.  "Sati" is the act  
>of widows (whose husbands were killed during wars) burning themselves  
>on the pyre (with whatever could be salvaged of the husbands body from  
>the battlefield).  

I don't think "Sati" was associated only with war widows. Basically, a
grieving wife commited suicide to be with her husband (in heaven). Later,
this was to be much misused, primarily by the moneyed/landlord class who
wanted the widow to be out of the inheritance. 

>The unmarrried ones committed a similar act that is called "Jouhar" 
>whenever they lost a battle. So both married and unmarried women 
>burnt themselves up after a defeat. 

"Jauhar" was actually done BEFORE a suicidal battle, so that the menfolk
would fight till death. Otherwise, the menfolk would have a reason to
live. This practice started (or became famous) with the Rajputs. The most
famous, of course, is the story of Rani Padmini. King Allauddin Khilji of
Delhi apparently was enamoured of her and laid seige to Chittore. When
the situation seemed hopeless, the women, led by Padmini commited "Jauhar"
and the men went out of the fort and died to the last man. However, the
victorious Khilji was robbed of his object of desire. Incidentally, the
tale of Padmini was, I think, popularized by a Muslim poet "Malik Mohd.
Jayasi".

Sumitro
From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: PakistaNews Text Files Until New Year - #1219
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:52:34 GMT
Organization: IMRAN: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks


PEOPLE NOT TO ALLOW ANYONE TO SABOTAGE DEMOCRACY

Federal Law and Justice Minister Chaudhary Abdul Ghafoor has said that the 
people had totally rejected the so-called demonstration of the Opposition and 
hoped that in future they would again not allow anyone to sabotage the 
democratic process in the country and hamper national development.

KISSAN BOARD VOICES CONCERN: RECLAMATION SHOOTS

The General Council of the Kissan Board, Pakistan has accused the Punjab 
Irrigation Minister of giving illegal reclamation shoots for pleasing its MNAs 
and MPAs.

KACUS CALL TO TAKE UP MASJID ISSUE AT UN

The Kashmir Action Committee has urged the government to take up the Babri 
Masjid issue in the United Nation, break off the trade and cultural exchanges 
with India and reduce number of diplomats.

DIGS CONFERENCE CONCLUDES

In order to eradicate the scourge of narcotics and drugs in the light of Prime 
MInisterUs decision of declaring 1993 as year of war against drugs, the Punjab 
police has decided to raise anti-drug Elite Squads in all the big cities of the 
province.

 WAPDA BONDS IST ISSUE MATURES.

The first issue of Wapda bonds has matured on completion of five years period 
and redemption of over Rs. three billion principal amount subscribed to the 
bonds has commenced.  This bond was launched on December 15, 1987.

SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST SLATED BABRI INCIDENT

The demolition of an ancient Masjid by Hindu fanatics came as a shock to the 
countryUs educated political elite, South China Morning Post, Hong Kong, said 
in an editorial on Dec. 8, last.
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