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From: tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{)
Subject: Re: Copyright fees
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:19:19 GMT


I think that the UK and Finland are the countries where radio stations must
pay more money for copyright than in any other country.

The union of commercial radio stations of Finland has had for many years
a court process against copyright organisations.  Radio stations claim that
their business is suffering because of enormous copyright fees.  They also
claim that American music is played too much just to avoid certain fees.

Our university is running a non-commercial fm-station (98,4 MHz FM stereo
200 Watts, some 250000 inhabitants living within the reception area).  We
have paid some FIM 100000 annually for composers and performers.  We expect
this amount to increase as we have been 24 hours/day during the academic term
now for two years (FIM 100000 = approx. 15000 GBP).

The most problematic is the money paid for performers.  They demand some
3 to 4 FIM for every MINUTE in Tampere area which is the second big marketing
area in Finland.  In Helsinki, where the potential audience is about one
million, they demand FIM 10/minute (= approx. 1,5 GBP/min or 3 USD/min).
That is why there is going on a trial.  I think their demand is too much.
Another question follows when we talk about non-commercial stations: should
they pay as much as commercial stations?  My wiev is that they should pay
reduced fees because their aims are not commercial and very often they play
music neglected by commercial stations.

Generally my view is that radio stations should pay their copyright fees.
Commercial radio is based on the idea that people buy products that are adver-
tised.  The radio station gets money from advertising while the time between
commercials is usually filled with music, i.e. music is the tool radio
stations use to get people listening to commercials.  Why should they then
not pay for that music?  The key question is not that European radio stations
pay too much but that U.S. stations pay practically nothing.  In most European
countries both composers and performers have legal copyright and thus they
get money wheheir music is played on radio.  In the U.S. performers don't
get anything as that country has not ratified the so called Rome convention
which guarantees copyright to performers, too.  I hope that in the near future
the United States join other Western countries acknowleding major
international copyright laws.
#Jorma Mantyla
#Univ. of Tampere
#Finland


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From: tshrilla@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Thomas R Shrilla)
Subject:  CKLW The Big 8
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:18:56 GMT


I'm putting together a segued compilation of the "old" CKLW from the early 
1970's era.  I have all the music and plenty of station jingles, but am
looking for audio bites of their frequently played commercials like Elias
Brothers Restaurant, Farmer Jack's (savings time), and Marolis Chevrolet. 
Does anyone have any of these or similar actualities I could get a copy of? 
I'll make sure you get a copy of the final product.

Thanks!
Tom Shrilla
WB8HJL

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From: guidotti@attain.ICD.Teradyne.COM (Mark Guidotti)
Subject: Interference on KING *IN* Seattle!
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. San Jose CA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:59:50 GMT


In article <1992Dec17.081550.7768@gagme.chi.il.us> "TISS: :HIGGINS"
<higgins%tiss.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com> writes:
>
>> WLUP-AM protects KOMO, Seattle (rarely audible in the midwest on
>>  Monday Mornings when WLUP goes off). KING is Seattle-1090 (call
>> letter buffs note it is in King County).
>
The one time I traveled to Seattle, I stayed at a hotel in Renton.  I
heard KING being being beaten about the head and shoulders by XPRS-1090,
from south of the border.

A couple of years later, I ran into someone at an NAB convention who was
formerly in management at KING.  He knew of the interference and said that
KING ownership once tried to locate the owners of XPRS in order to negotiate
a deal, which they believed would be great for both parties, to modify XPRS
to better cover southern cal and reduce interference toward KING.  In spite
of rather diligent efforts, they were evidently never able to locate anyone
in ownership of XPRS and so never made the offer.

What surprised me about the interference was how strong it was.  The hotel
radio was not very good and only a few stations came in.  KING was one of
the stronger signals but was the only one with audible background
interference.

My W.A.G. is that the ratio of the two was 10dB - more than enough for XPRS
to be clearly heard under KING.

mark

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From: Steve Bacher <seb@draper.com>
Subject: Joe Frank "Work in Progress" - ceased production
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:50:44 GMT

On Sunday night, December 20, WBUR-FM informed us that Joe Frank's
"Work in Progress" had ceased production.  The only information they had
from KCRW was that Joe had "moved on to other things", was "no longer an
employee of KCRW", and was currently in Florida.  The previous week's
episode ("The Dictator, Part 3") was the last that they had received for
broadcast - no tapes of the show are available onsite.  (This in itself
is interesting, since the last year or so was repeats of old shows.)

JF fans are encouraged to write to KCRW in Santa Monica if they want
more information (news, brochures, tapes, whatever):

	KCRW-FM
	1900 Pico Blvd.
	Santa Monica, CA 90405

	ATTN: Joe Frank
	      c/o Ariana

(I would guess that Ariana is Ariana Morgenstern (sp?), who is an
occasional contributor/participant in JF's programs.)

Evidently this show has a following out of proportion to the amount
of promotion (close to zero) given to it by the station here, anyway.

  - Steve Bacher
  - Draper Laboratory
  - Cambridge, MA

Disclaimer:  My employer doesn't know or care what I listen to.

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From: exudjr@exu.ericsson.se (David Richard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Re: Joe Frank
Date: 28 Dec 92 13:50:55 GMT
Organization: _
Originator: wdp@gagme


In article 19193@gagme.chi.il.us, seb@draper.com (teve Bacher) writes:
>
>>Anybody out there know anything about Joe Frank?  He (until recently)
>>had a radio show on Sunday nights.  I'm not sure exactly which station,
>>but it was a pretty cool show and he seems to have gone off the air.
>>Any info would be appreciated.
>>Chris
>
>IN fact, I would be glad to hear from other Joe Frank fans at all.

I'm one, and I'm going through withdrawl.  When I lived in NJ, I used
to listen to Joe Frank on WFMU - boy I really miss that station.  Now
I'm in DFW, TX, and as far as I'm aware none of the stations around
here play his show.

I'm considering trying to persuade one of the local public/community
stations to carry it (or reruns until he returns from hiatus), but I
fear my lone voice will be ineffectual.  Anybody have any
recommendations on how I can bolster my case? For example, it would
help to know how public/community stations decide what to pick up from
syndication.  If a station already carries something from NPR, is it
easier for them to pick up other shows?

I also checked with KCRW about getting tapes of his show, and I seem to
recall they're about $11.00/show.  That's too expensive a habit for
me.  Do you think any libraries would purchase it for their multi-media
collections?  I've done some searching around here, and all I've found
locally is stuff from Garrison Keillor.

Thanks for any help!

- David Richard

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From: zoltar@amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
Subject: Seeking info on USA voice over work
Date: 28 Dec 92 13:51:19 GMT
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand
Originator: wdp@gagme


Hello there, I was wondering if you ever hold an international Thing for 
finding voices overseas for USA stations and the like, for voicing 
commercials and Station promos?? I am just getting into Radio announcing 
(Now at our local FM station, after a year of hard work trying to get in) 
and would love to get in contact with a USA station (esp MIX 107.3 FM in 
Washington, I love their breakfast announcer, Jack Diamond, bert and the 
lady) One of my Penpals sends tapes to me with their brekky show on it.. 
 
Merry Christams and a Happy New Year.
 
Grant Thoms

 
`And Now...'
-- 
                 Grant Thoms - Wanganui, New Zealand
   -=* zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz *or* zoltar@amigans.gen.nz *=-
            Radio DJ/Graphics Artist/Co SysOp of Local BBS
  Profound Quote for the week: `Don't eva bush yer teef wif cwazy gew!'
     (Rough Translation: Don't ever brush your teeth with crazy glue) 
                (Yes, Im afraid this is my new .SIG file) 
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From: ck060@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric L. Hinson)
Subject: Z-Rock reception via satalite
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: cleveland.Freene
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:55:27 GMT

I have just moved from Tallahassee, Florida to St. Augustine, Florida.
While in Tallahassee, I listened to Z-Rock, a satalite based rock format
station out of Houston, TX.  Now that I am in St. Augustine, I can no
longer listen to this station because none of the local stations carry
the Z-Rock feed.  I do, however, know a few people that own or have
access to satalite receivers.  Could someone please tell me all the
information that I'd need to know (satalite, transponder, frequency,
etc..) in order to pick up Z-Rock with a satalite receiver?  Thanks for
your help with this matter.
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(_  _  ' _  , /    <__/ ' __  .     __  , Eric L. Hinson
(__/(_/_(__/ <__, _/ /_/_//<_/)_<>_//<_/  St. Augustine, FL
 
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From: Benjamin Jonas <bjonas@hydra.unm.edu>
Subject: Re: Joe Frank
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:51:06 GMT


Joe Frank: Work In Progress was a terrific show produced at KCRW and
distributed by NPR.  The last feed was either the last Sunday in 
November or the first of December.  Individual programs are available
from Joe Frank himself at $10/copy.  You can get info on this by calling
KCRW.  A listing of all the shows is available.  The program is no 
longer available for broadcast through NPR, I'm not sure if Joe is 
allowing broadcast through independant negotiations...but there are
no new shows, and it has been in reruns for some time.  Rumor has
it that he is writing a book and/or working on a TV project.

benj


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From: "Julian Lorkin" <9LORKIN@WINVMJ.VNET.IBM.COM>
Subject: WQXR question, was it a ham station?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:55:17 GMT


allegra!rfc@allegra.att.com (Robert F. Casey) doth duely wrote:

>went up to 1500KHz, and WQXR was at 1560.  Also, my father says that WQXR
>AM was allowed to transmit with +-10KHz bandwidth (normal AM station
>bandwidth is +-5KHz) to yield 10KHz of received audio bandwidth.  HiFi
>AM reception.  He thinks they *might* still have this authorization, but
>I doubt that anyone has an AM radio that can make full use of this extra
>bandwidth.  Can anyone add or verify or modify the above?

  I played around with AM bandwidth when I was building a transmitter for
an AM Induction Loop system (What we in the UK call Induction loops,
or leaky feeders, you in the US call carrier current - no difference).
  With most hi-fis you are correct, you would notice very little
difference with an improved transmitter bandwidth, but with a happy-crapy
tranie you do get a vast increase, however then you get the problem of
a naff audio stage. The best AM receiver system I got was a really cheap
clock radio, coupled to a very expensive amp and speakers. 10kHz, no
problem.
  Incidentally the cheapest AM TX I built used a crystal, JK flipflop,
and a power transistor to switch the signal _from_ a power amp on and off
at 1Mhz. Sure, it was square wave, but what the heck, it saved all that
RF amp stuff.

Julian Lorkin


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From: tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt)
Subject: Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:19:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.093853.28947@gagme.chi.il.us> Michael j Strait
<teach07@uc780.umd.edu> writes:
>[Moderator's Note: There has been so much traffic about public broadccasting,
>I thought I would re-post this long article from Internet Radio Journal 116,
>last spring. ]
>
>
>Subject: CPB 25th Anniversay Retrospective
>
>                FUTURISTS PREDICT MORE VITAL ROLE
>                     FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING
>[stuff deleted]
>What If Public Broadcasting Had Never Been?
>
>         The answer:
>...
>         o no development of radio and television as powerful
>           forces to cope with social challenges through outreach
>           programming;
>
>         o no multicultural programming, addressing the diverse
>           groups that make up the nation and creating bridges of
>           understanding among people of different cultural
>           heritage.

If these statements mean to imply that no such programming exists or 
has existed on commercial radio and TV, I contend they're flat out wrong.

Even if the intent is to claim that commercial stations would
not have produced the above programming if it weren't for the existence
of PB, then I find the claims at least presumtive.  Isn't it (or wasn't 
it, anyway) required to produce and air public-affairs programs as part 
of operating in the public interest?

For all its virtues and contributions, I find Public Broadcasting to be
the most self-congratulatory and self-deceptive (introspectively)
institution in the US.  Am I alone in that opinion?

>Michael J. Strait, Ph.D. Project Officer for Research and Evaluation
>Annenberg/CPB Projects   Corporation for Public Broadcasting


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From: lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood)
Subject: Re: End of beautiful music format?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:14:28 GMT

slutsky@tesla.njit.edu writes:

>Is the beautiful music format dead?  WPAT-AM and FM (Paterson, New Jersey
>which serves New York City and Northern New Jersey) is now advertising
>a "soft and easy" format.  It is really a "Lite" format.  Years ago
>there were 4 stations in the NYC area (WPAT, WVNJ, WRFM,and WTFM)  which
>were beautiful music stations playing virtually only instrumentals 
>sometimes derisively called elevator music.  It seems that the survivors
>of this format now want to appeal to a younger audience.  Are there any
>"beautiful music" stations left?

KUMU 94.7 Honolulu (also on AM) were playing a beautiful music format when I
was there in February 1992.  I cannot remember whether they called
themselves beautiful music though.

BTW: Melbourne (and other Australian major cities) used to have beautiful
music stations until the mid 80's.  Most of these have turned into 'easy
listenning' stations (a mix of old and new light adult contemporary music,
and the occasional instrumental).

In Melbourne, the beautiful music station (3AK) dropped its beautiful music 
format in 1986 for a hits and memories format, because their ratings (which
were 
quite good) were falling.  Three months later they converted to a news-talk 
format.  The station spent huge sums of money, hiring lots of big name 
personalities for just about every shift, even poaching the best
personalities 
from the other (existing) news-talk station in Melbourne, they even made 
expensive TV ads for their launch.  Unfortunately, their new format flopped. 

Their ratings sank like a rock and never recovered.

Meanwhile, another station, 3MP, who wasn't doing very well, jumped on the
bandwagon by converting to an easy listenning format the day after 3AK went
news-talk.  Unlike 3AK's former beautiful music format, 3MP's was a lite
music format playing more modern songs.  3MP's ratings rose just as quickly
as 3AK's fell, and kept on rising, and rising,  until they were pretty much
the 
number one station in Melbourne.

I guess after that, other beautiful music stations in Australia also changed to
an easy listenning format.

3AK dropped its news-talk format less than a year later.  They then became
one of
those dying AM stations until they were bought in 1990 by someone who
turned it into an Italian station.

3MP is still doing well in the ratings with its easy listening format,
quite often obtaining the number one spot.  The original news-talk station, 
who still have their news-talk format, are doing almost as well.

Liron Lightwood                     Internet : r.lightwood@trl.oz.au
Telecom Research Laboratories       Phone : +61 3 253 6535
770 Blackburn Road                 Snail : P.O. Box 249 Clayton 3168 Australia
Clayton  Vic. 3168 Australia        Disclaimer : My views are not my company's

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From: rfc@allegra.att.com (Robert F Casey) 
Subject: Blame Elvis for Japan's competitiveness
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 05:02:58 GMT



An article in the Nov 26, 1992 _Science News_ with the above title,
page 383, asserts that Japan's success in electronics started, not
in the past 15 years, but back in the '50s.  Portable radios (what
people called "transistors") was their start, and the rock and roll
revolution created a big demand.
The article says that an American company tried and failed to make
money making transistor portable radios in 1955.  The Japanese 3
years later made shirt pocket sized radios, when rock and roll was getting
big.  Many teens were using the radios to listen to new rock
only radio stations.  Article concludes that the Japanese lucked out in 
their timing to market.
Archaeologist Michael Schiffer of the University of Arizona based 
the above on research done by studying industry newsletters, tech
journals, service bulletins (all of this era) and also looking
at about 200 radio innards from the 50s.
He also read material on radio and its role in American culture.


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From: blair@obdient.chi.il.us (Doug Blair)
Subject: Re: "Howard Stern" fine - $600,000
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Obedient Software, Naperville IL
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:00:23 GMT


While we're on the subject of the $600,000 Howard Stern fine, please note
that this fine was assessed against Infinity for the broadcast of Howard
Stern shows on (I think) 12 different dates on several different stations.
The $6000 fine imposed on Evergreen for Steve and Gary's remarks covered
(I think) only one offensive show on one station.  It would be interesting
to figure out if the cost-per-description-of-offensive-activity-per-station
is consistant :-).

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From: jrg@bertha.att.com (J. Goldstein)
Subject: How to Prepare For the Startup of an AM Radio Tower Nearby
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs / Federal Systems Advanced Technology
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:25:01 GMT
 

My parents and their neighbors were unable to block a radio station's
request for zoning exception in Germantown, Maryland.  The result is
four very high towers that will soon be broadcasting in the AM band (I
don't know the broadcast power, though.)

Can anyone suggest any measurements, recordings, or other things that
should be done now, before broadcasting starts, that will help if we
need to later complain to the FCC about interference, bad phone noise,
etc.?  If there are any firms that specialize in this type of
measurment, their names or numbers would be appreciated.

FYI, my parents and neighbors aren't suffering too much from the NIMBY
syndrome, they just don't like the way the site was picked -- the
rezoning wasn't well publicized, with the required information sign
being positioned well back from the road.  Furthermore, the sign only
vaguely mentioned construction of a tower, which the majority of
people assumed meant yet another power company microwave tower, of
which there is already one in a nearby sub-station.  When the locals
finally realized what was happening, they didn't have much time to
prepare a case for the final zoning review board.  Naturally, the
radio station had a slew of well-qualified lawyers, etc specializing
in radio tower/FCC matters, versus the attorney that the local home
owners had hired out of their own pockets.

Any information or advice would be appreciated.  


Jamie Goldstein   AT&T Bell Labs / Federal Systems Advanced Technology
(301)369-7845     j.r.goldstein@att.com
 

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From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Subject: "Howard Stern" fine - $600,000
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Green Hills and Cows
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:04:34 GMT


rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu (N7YVM) writes:

> The companys name was "Infinity Broadcasting". they are expected
> to appeal.

You bet they will appeal. For that kind of money, I would want to see
evidence of real harm (like someone's life ruined, at least),
preferably in court. ABC's Nightline showed and spoke the lines for which
Stern got in trouble. Incredibly bad taste, for sure. But if that
is what this is all about, we have real problems with the intent
and purpose of the FCC.

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From:  John Hendry <HENDRY@ETSUADMN.ETSU.EDU>
Subject: Cellular Phones as remote tools
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:15:05 GMT



I have a problem that I would like some assistance with.  We use a
cellular phone in some of our remote venues, and have had many problems
with oscillation, poor audio quality, etc.  Outside of throwing the
cellular in the lake, I need some alternatives.
We use a Uniden CP-1500 phone with a Cellabs interface.  I would
appreciate information from those who use cell phones, and let me know
if you have had success, or own expensive paperweights.
Please e-mail me at one of the addresses below, as I have had
trouble accessing rrb through my reader.
Thanks, and Happy Holidays!

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