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From: nyt@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Nicaragua Continues to Seek US Aid
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:43:00 GMT
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Nf-From: nyxfer.uucp!nyt    Dec 14 14:43:00 1992


Subject: Nicaragua Continues to Seek US Aid
From: nyxfer!nyt (NY Transfer News)


Via The NY Transfer News Service * All the News that Doesn't Fit

From el diario/La Prensa 12/14/92

Translated and edited by Toby Mailman. "el diario/La Prensa" is 
a Spanish language newspaper published in New York City.

Nicaragua Continues to Seek US Aid

This week Nicaraguan president Violeta Chamorro once again 
initiated a diplomatic offensive to get the US government to 
release promised financial aid. Chamorro said on Dec. 13 that she
will send Antonio Lacayo, Minister of the Presidency, to 
Washington, DC to ask President Bush for additional financial 
assistance. Lacayo also plans to explore the possibilities of aid
for 1993 under the Clinton administration. Although the Bush 
administration had already approved $190 million for 1993, $50 
million for 1992 -- out of $104 million promised -- is still being 
withheld, due to the lobbying of conservative US senator Jesse 
Helms, who supports Nicaraguan conservatives in their objections 
to Chamorro's so-called co-government with the Sandinistas. 
[Fifty-four million dollars was recently released to help Nicaragua 
appease some of its creditors]. Nicaraguan General Assembly 
president Alfredo Cesar has threatened to boycott the president's
attempt, with the support of Nicaraguan conservative 
deputies.(edlp 12/14/92 from AP)
 

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Saturday, 12 Dec 1992 03:22:58 EST
From: <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Por si acaso.....

Hoooooola,

Por si acaso no tuvieron ustedes algunos problemas con el pooooooosting?.
Pregunto esto porque yo si los tuuuuuuuve. Por ejeeeeemplo, se me perdiiiiian
articulos o no apareciiiiiian en el newsgroup hasta despues de 2 diiiiias.

Saluuuuuudos.

Antoooooonio.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: mnarvaez@halcon.dpi.udec.cl (Manuel Narvaez T.)
Subject: Re: Latin Baby Names - Okay, Okay, LATINO NAMES       
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:29:23 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Concepcion, Concepcion - Chile
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

:  Rosario, Rufina, Amada, Amelia, Orquidea, Maritsa, Lidia, Lilia, Gina,
:  Silvana.
:  
:  Ya se me acabaron los nombres de familiares y amigos/conocidos! :-)
:  
:  Saludos,
: 
: --
: Ray I. Ravelo                "We're your opposition, Mr. Castro, we 10 million
: Office of Academic Computing. Cubans who look around us in terror"
: UC, Irvine.                 from the open letter to Castro by M.E. Cruz-Varela
: 

Fresia, Nayem, Guacolda, Millaray  : Nombres del Sur del Mundo, donde la contaminacion aun no se conoce. (Nombres del pueblo Mapuche).

    Manuel E. Narvaez T.                   Universidad de Concepcion
 mnarvaez@halcon.dpi.udec.cl               Concepcion - Chile
   mnt@cisne.soft.udec.cl                 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
From: emr002@acad.drake.edu
Subject: 4:40 songs (estrellitas y duendes)
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:03:58 GMT

Hello everyone! aqui estoy de nuevo!, to whoever asked for any of the songs of
Juan Luis Guerra y 4:40.  Esta es del LP "Bachata Rosa", la cancion de
"Estrellitas y Duendes":

Vivire en tu recuerdo                          I'll live in your memoir
  como un simple aguacero                        like a simple rain
    de estrellitas y duendes		           of stars and elves

Vagare por tu vientre			       I'll walk in your womb
  mordiendo cada ilusion   			 nibbling on each illusion

Viviras en mis suenos			       You'll live in my dreams
  como tinta indeleble 				 like permanent ink 
    como mancha de acero			   like an iron spot 

No se olvida el idioma 			       Language is not forgotten
  cuando dos hacen amor				 when two make love

Me toste en tus mejillas		       I'll burn in your cheeks
  como el sol en la tarde			 like the afternoon sun

Se desgarra  mi cuerpo			       My body is torn apart
  y no vivo un segundo para			 and I can't live a minute to
     decirte que sin ti muero			    tell you that without you
							I'll die
Me quede en tus pupilas mi bien		       I'll stay in your eyes, my love
  ya no cierro los ojos				 I can't close my eyes

Me tire a lo mas hondo			      I threw myself to the deepest
  y me ahogo en los mares			 and I drown in the seas of  
     de tu partida de tu partida..  		    your departure.. of
						    your departure..
							 
Andare sin saberlo			      I'll walk without knowing
  calzare de tu cuerpo    			 I'll fit of your body
    como huellas de hierro  			    like prints of iron

Comere lo que sobre			      I'll eat what's left
  dentro de tu corazon				 from inside your heart

Y sere un mar desierto			      And I'll be an empty sea
  una frase silente				 a silent phrase
    la elegia de un beso                            the poem of a kiss
       un planeta de celos				a planet of jealousness
	  esculpiendo una cancion...                   	   sculpting a song...

		                    /\
				   /  \
	Bachata Rosa...	           \__/   the muse...

If there's anyone out that that has a better translation feel free to post it!
Enjoy it!

The Muse....
From: pablito@girtab.usc.edu (Pablo Kleinman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Re: Mexico and Somalia
Date: 12 Dec 1992 14:09:16 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Edelmiro:

Donde salio eso de que a Clinton se le propuso eliminar la C.I.A. y que el este
pensando seriamente en hacerlo? Teniendo en cuenta el pais en que vivimos,
espero que esto no termine con otro atentado/asesinato... :(

          -Pablo

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Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 15:48:37 EST
From: <CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.latin-america
Subject: Ya sabia que iba a pasar esto

Hola,

Ayer, estuve viendo CNN y estuvieron hablando de Somalia (como es de esperar).
Como todos ustedes saben, se estaba diciendo que se ha estado haciendo muy
poco para ayudar a Somalia, y casi todos decian que tenian que dar mas ayuda.
Bueno, ahora hay varios paises que estan mandando sus tropas para unirse
a las tropas multinacionales, entre ellos estan los gringos. Sucede que ahora
hay grupos de personas que dicen que esto de la ayuda es como degradar al
africano(negro), y que esto tambien revive las imagenes de esclavitud y todo
eso. Macanas!!!!! si estos soldados no ayudan a esas pobres personas, quien los
ayudara?. Creo que deberia de dejar de quejarse y contentarse un poco mas.
Que dificil es de complacer a todos, no?

Lo que esta escrito arriba, es algo paracido a lo que escuche en CNN, y algunas
opiniones son mias.

Antonio
From: tark@krypta.in-berlin.de (Agon Buchholz)
Sender: uucp@krypta.in-berlin.de
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Nietzsche quote
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 21:10:00 +0200

Hi Mark,

 MAK> The quote (in english) is "What does not kill us makes us stronger".
 MAK> Can someone with a German quotation dictionary find the original
German
 MAK> quote AND the context within which the statement was made.

The German version of this quote is "Was uns nicht umbringt, macht uns
[nur] staerker." But I couldn't find this one in the standard quotation
dictionary (Buechmann, Gefluegelte Worte").

     MfG Agon

 * Origin: Fido: 2:2403/41.6 - InterNet: tark@krypta.in-berlin.de
(2:2403/41.6)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: rschoen@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Reinhard Schoen)
Subject: Re: Information for trip to Germany...
Reply-To: rschoen@mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Reinhard Schoen)
Organization: University of Ulm, SAI, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:39:08 GMT

In article <U9S9FZV@hp832.informatik.hu-berlin.de>,
holz@obelix.fb-inf2 (E. Holz) writes:

|> >I heard it is usual in USA to get your coffee cup refilled for free.
|> >I'd appreciate German restaurants to do so!
|> 
|> Did you ever drink american "coffee" ?

No - does it somehow resemble Saxonian "Bliemchengaffee"?
That's a coffee you can see the flowers imprinted on the
inside of the cup through.

REinhard
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: What about "free" speech
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:11:53 GMT
 <1gnqdnINN58t@iraul1.ira.uka.de>  <BzD996.8z7@nic.umass.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <BzD996.8z7@nic.umass.edu>
mrunkel@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Marc A. Runkel) writes:

> Yes, there are mothers & fathers who feel that some "music" is not suitable
> for their children.  However, under the U.S. Constitution they can't do
> anything about it but yammer, thankfully, this is their right.  But that really
> has nothing to do with the government banning certain groups, and forbidding
> the display of nazi paraphanalia.  This is not really for the betterment of
> society, but because of a national embarassment.

When the Germans do something about neo-Nazi music it's called taking
away fundamental rights; when they do nothing, it's called racist
neo-Nazi action or letting the neo-Nazis flourish, etc.

I'm sick of this anti-German bias.


--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have known it would be bad vodka when all the label said was
'Russian Vodka'."
From: lang@igc.apc.org (Andrew Lang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: _Inside the Third Reich_ by Albert
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:01:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:92349.175152L98CC@cunyvm.bitnet:-174398551:cdp:1473000059:000:1177
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!lang    Dec 15 07:01:00 1992


Re. your message on _Inside the Third Reich_. I thought the book
was an interesting personal testament. Speer is a controversial
figure, and if you check with your library or other libraries, 
you may find books by critics who contend that Speer was in fact
more guilty than even he admitted, and that he said what the 
Allies wanted him to say in order to save his life.

Speer certainly deserved his 20-year sentence. I see no reason to
disagree with him on this point. As minister for armaments and
war production, he collaborated with the Nazi policy of forcible
deportations from German-occupied Europe to supply slave labor
for the German war industry.  He was also directly responsible 
for forced-labor establishments like the rocket-testing site at
Peenemuende and the rocket assembly plant in Nordhausen.  The
latter used concentration camp prisoners who were housed in caves,
denied medical treatment and literally worked to death.

Speer admitted his guilt in this regard. His assumption of
responsibility, though, may have saved his life. The Nuremberg
defendants who consistently evaded responsibility for their
actions were the ones who were put to death.

Andy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Maisack)
Subject: Re: Neues Asylrecht in aller Kuerze
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:17:50 GMT

In <1992Dec16.111952.21099@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier) writes:

>In article <psima01.724493916@convex> psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Maisack) writes:
>>In <icking.724452157@gmd.de> icking@gmd.de (Werner Icking) writes:
>>
>>>Politisch verfolgte Fallschirmspringer geniessen Asyl.
>>>(aus dem heutigen Koelner Stadtanzeiger - Leserbrief?)
>>
>>das muss naetuerlich noch ergaenzt werden: Der Fallschirm darf
>>nicht in einem Verfolgungsfreien Drittland produziert worden sein.

>Kein Asyl geniessen die Fallschirmspringer, die mit ihrem Flugzeug ein
>"sicheres Drittland" ueberflogen haben. Sie haetten ja auch schon dort
>abspringen koennen.


naja, dann bleiben uns als potentielle Ayslanten nur noch die Herren 
Haider und Le Pen. Jedes Land kriegt die Asylanten, die es verdient hat...

Michael
>-- 
>* Joern Baier     (baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de) __o   *
>* Jesuitengasse 9, D-W8390 Passau             _`\<,_  *
>* Tel +49/851/35239                          (_)/ (_) *
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: barba@patty.gud.siemens.co.at (Barbara Nowak-Teufl)
Subject: Re: wienerisch dama redn
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:43:53 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Wolfgang Howdii Howurek (howdii@patty.gud.siemens.co.at) wrote:

> Hoid, a Woanung woid i no ausschbrechn. Bass auf, waun se demnegsd do a
> gewise Babara moet, uijegale, hofendli darwischds des ned, weul sunds
> hauds ma sicha iagnda Drumm noche. Na, do wiari mi hoid duggn, dass mi nigs
> driefd.

I glaub, jez wissen olle, warum da Haudi Hau-di haast.

> Da Haudi aus Misdlboch.

Schbezieller Tip aun mein Schbezi Haudi: Aa a Mistelbocha is net unsteablich!

--
Barbara Nowak-Teufl 		barba@patty.gud.siemens.co.at
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: jmw4a@Virginia.EDU ("John/Chuck Wooldridge")
Subject: Re: Welche Sprache(n) sollen wir gebrauchen?????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:10:15 GMT

a quick note re. dialect
Dialects don't translate well.  Note following translation of
American movie:
Boyz in the Hood in German is Jungs aus der Nachbarshaft (young
men in the Neighborhood)
converting dialect to Hochdeutsch tends to present the same
sort of problems, so that you get a filmtitle, or whatever,
that sounds like a cross between Spike Lee and Mr Rogers

if you really are into it, a few tips(feel free to correct, add
to list. I'm certainly no expert)
Most of the following are used throughout the South, including
Austria
-ma at the end of a word means "wir" -dasamma = da sind wir =
here we are
-an o-umlaut turns to a-umlaut bl"ad = bloed = silly (sounds
like "blade" in English
-ei tends to become eu, i' weus net = ich weiss nicht= i don't
know
in general, dialect involves a few entirely new words, but if
you get used to the way people drop syllables and mush words
together you can generally understand the kinds of things that
have been posted on the net.  It is hard to read, because, as
everybody says, there is no regular phonetic transcription so
the same word gets written several different ways.

I think dialect is awesome, even the ones which sound really
bizarre (like Schw"abisch or S"achsisch) to my foreign ears.
In particular, I think it is an integral part of German culture
and more germane to the net than, for instance, whether or not
one should trust the Canadians.
From: dsza@elm.lle.rochester.edu (Tony De Souza)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: How racit are the germans?
Summary: The new Germany
Keywords: neo-nazis, hate crimes, violence etc
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:11:11 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

As a young guy just starting out (I recently graduated from the University
of Rochester in Rochester, NY) I had the opportunity to work in Germany for
Diamler Benz.  I have always had outstanding academic credentials, and would
have loved to do so, except for one thing.  I am black.  Recent events in
Germany (or not so recent upon reflection) have made me never want to visit 
a country I once admired, and further more I go out of my way to not buy 
German these days, yet I cannot help but feel that racism itself is not THAT
widespread, but I really would like to hear more from other people on the 
net.

Tony DeSouza                                                           \ | /
Winners were once dreamers --------------------------------------------- @ -
University of Rochester Laboratory for Laser Energetics                / | \
dsza@elm.lle.rochester.edu
                                  "Ignorance has been good to me"








--

---------- If you rub here and it feels good, you are one sick puppy ----------

Tony DeSouza                                                           \ | /
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Deutsche_in_den_USA: Thanx
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:20:43 GMT

ruediger@leland.Stanford.EDU (ruediger dung) writes:

>Zur 2.Frage: Sozialverhalten der US-Amerikaner und oekologisches
>             Bewusstsein.

> Ein oekologisches Bewusstsein scheint sich
>langsam auch in den U.S.A. durchzusetzen, auch wenn zum Beispiel Recycling
>regional sehr unterschiedlich betrieben wird. Hierzu ist allerdings meine
>persoenliche Meinung, dass vom Grossteil der Leute Recycling nur halbherzig
>betrieben wird. Ein Muellkippenproblem scheint es wohl nicht zu geben.

Ich habe hierzu das letzte Mal nicht drauf geschrieben aber ich denke das wit 
in Amerika schon sehr lange oekologisch Bewusst sind. Im grossen Ganzen ist 
das Recycling jetzt ein groesseres Problem wie einfach das Zeug zu vergraben 
oder verbrenned so wie es frueher war.

Hier in NJ haben wir so viel Papier and Sodakannen das man nicht mehr weisz 
wohin damit. Frueher bekam man Geld fuer solche Sachen. Heute muss man 
allerhand bezahlen das die sachen zum Recycling ueberhaupt angenommen werden.

Und wie schon jeman anderes sagte, unsere Regeln hier sind ja viel staerker 
wie solche in Deutschland ueber die Verseuchung der Luft. Da muss man schon 
sgen das die Europaeer noch viel aufzuholen haben.

Das groesste Problem hier ist eben die menge der Sachen die da uebrigbleiben 
von dem vielen Kaufen hier. Die Verpackungen sind oft teurer wie der Inhalt 
und muessen trotzdem weggeschmissen werden.

Fred
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Maisack)
Subject: Lichterkette- Korrektur
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:22:02 GMT

Korrektur: die demonstartion findet am Sonntag statt.

Entschuldigung fuer den Lapsus
Michael
From: alti@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Thorsten Altenkirch)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: CVD : alt.hate.german WAS Re: Oh! No more L. ...
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:34:40 GMT
	<1992Dec13.232116.1@vxdesy.desy.de>
	<1992Dec15.211903.3030@video.rogers.com>
	<1992Dec16.011535.1@vxdesy.desy.de> <29680@castle.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: LFCS, Edinburgh

In article <29680@castle.ed.ac.uk> andreb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Andre Bergholz) writes:

   If you can't stop hating other people please found your own newsgroup
   rec.sport.hate.lawrence and post your articles there.

I had a similar idea after I have seen a posting by a comrade of
Lawrence (I think it was in soc.culture.croatia). I'd rather go for
alt.hate.german to include them all.
--

 Thorsten Altenkirch         	And there's a hand, my trusty fiere,
 Laboratory for Foundations  	   And gie's a hand o' thine,
 of Computer Science 	      	And we'll tak a right guid-willie waught
 University of Edinburgh     	   For auld lang syne!
From: markk@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Mark Allen Kampe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Looking for German lyrics of "Die Gedanken Sind Frei"
Date: 18 Dec 1992 00:16:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: markk@pongo.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo.west.sun.com

It has been almost 30 years since I heard the song, and I only remember
the first verse.

	Die Gedanken sind frei
	Wer kann sie erratten
	Sie fliehen vorebei
	wo nehman hat (???sinn???)
	kein Mench kann sie wissen
	kein Jeger ershiessen
	es bleibet dabei
	die Gedanken sind frei.
From: mic@glasnost.de (Michael Czollek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Christmas and Khanukah
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:26:51 GMT
Organization: GLASNOST

Geboren ward in Bethlehem
Ein Kindlein aus dem Stamme Sem.
Und ist es auch schon lange her
Dass es in Windeln lag
So freun sich doch die Menschen sehr
Bis auf den heut'gen Tag:
Minister und Agrarier
Bourgeois und Proletarier
Es feiert jeder Arier
Zur gleichen Zeit und ueberall
Die Christgeburt im Rindviehstall.
Das Volk allein, dem das geschah
Das feiert lieber Chanukah.

Erich Muehsam, 1933

Schalom und Mazl tow (Frieden und viel Gl|ck) fuers Neue Jahr!

micha


mic@glasnost.de


-- 
Ich habe Drachen gesaet und Floehe geerntet.
						Karl Marx
mic@glasnost.de
From: maxc0125@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Dennis Rubner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Brauche Hilfe fuer Umfrage in USA
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:32:29 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Tschuldigung, das 10 : 1 war eine fehlinfo und ausserdem koennen auch
andere Staedte aufgenommen werden. Neueste Ergebnisse :


Plan is to run away with the EBS students, and take Stephen if he wants to go.
Yes, Munich is cold, but I can't take anymore resolution predicate calculus.
I'm doing a survey, which is a beter place to live:

1)   Hamburg 
2)   Munich
     (and due to popular request):
3)   Cologne
4)   Wiesbaden
5)   Duesseleldorf

Everybody else e-mail me if you have an opinion in this matter.

Tally so far:     Munich      Hamburg    Cologne   Weisbaden  Duesseldorf
                   4            3          2          1           1


Also : Ich bitte um rege Beteiligung und um ein paar mehr Stimmen
fuer Wiesbaden.

Ciao



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