Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:39:56 EDT
Reply-To:     "Stratos Safioleas" <MG543C@GWUVM.BITNET>
From:         "Stratos Safioleas" <MG543C@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Apolyseis - Idiwtikopoihseis

On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:17:38 EDT Kostas Kyriakopoulos said:
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>............................ Apla Giwrgo mou, kai kala kaneis, esu pisteueis
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>sta peri shmantikou kratikou parembatismou enw kapoioi alloi, kai kala
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>kanoun(m)e, pisteoun(me) se oligwtero kratiko parembatismo...
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>Dustuxws auta ta pragmata einai "principles" anapodeikta ma0hmatika pou monon
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>apo "peiramatika" dedomena elegxetai h aksiopistia tous ...
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>To teleutaio peiramatiko dedomeno htan h apotuxia tou uparktou me sunepeia
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>thn anatroph ths isorropias pros "ofelos" twn free economists. Isws to
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>epomeno einai h apotuxia tou "edw" susthmatos! Opsome0a ...
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>"H empeiria pou exei apokomis0ei toso se e0niko oso kai se die0nh xwro
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>gia thn poreia kratikwn epixeirhsewn, mallon sunista ton periorismo tou
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>kratous se uphresies e0nikwn .h. koinwnikwn anagkaiothtwn. Htoi :
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>dhmosionomika, stratos, paideia, ugeia, (isws) energeia klp. ".....
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>"Porwmenh" apopsh peri sthriksh .h. aporripshs tou suthmatos .....klp
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>etsi den einai ? Ma sto eipa apo thn arxh! Peiramatizomaste!
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>Toulaxisto oi kratistes peiramatizontan sthn Ellada apo to '74 ews to '90 !
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>As afisoume loipon kai tous allous!
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>	kwstas - RPI

   File Kwsta merikes skeyeis...

   Kammia avtirnsn gia to kratismo kai tov "sosialismo" .O sosialismos isws ei-
mia alln koubevta isws gia alles wres, edw dev exoume kataferei va egk0idrusou-
me tnv astikn dnmokratia kai ta dikaiwmata tou politn pave sta skoupidia. Oi
free economists (mesa kai e3w apo tn lista) 0a se pouv kai eseva kratistn,
giati eisai uper tns evtovns kratikns parembasns se xwrous opws paideia,
evergeia, ugeia klp. Auta belpeis prepei va ta ru0mizouv oi duvameis tns ago-
ras. O Simon Ramo pou eivai episkeptns ka0ngntns sto Berkeley kai epiteliko
stelexos tns TWR, upostnrizei as poume gia to problnma tns ekpaideusns stis
HPA oti oi duvameis tns agoras 0a to apokatastnsouv. Pws; Aploustata n ellei-
yn katartismevou ergatikou duvamikou 0a dnmiourgnsei tn zntnsn tou. Tote 0a dn-
miourgn0ei zntnsn gia daskalous kalous 0a dnmiourgn0ei n avagkn gia kalutern
ekpaideusn bla-bla... Nomizw oti to "peirama" apotugxavei tragika, kai siga-
siga oi skeyeis gia stratngiko sxedio stn paideia wrimazouv kai edw.
   Ta idia mporouv va eipw0ouv gia tnv ugeia, gia tnv krisn pou mastizei
autn tn koivwvia me tnv egklnmatikotnta, tn ftwxeia klp.
To pososto ftwxeias fetos stn xwra tns megalns eukairias eftase to 16% evw
kapoies orgavwseis gia astegous isxurizovtai oti ta voumera upotimouv to
problnma. Evas stous tesserous maurous stn Washington 'n eivai stn fulakn,
'n prokeitai va dikastei gia a3iopoivn pra3n, 'n kataznteitai!!!. Perusi
stnv Amerikn dolofovn0nkav 21,000!!!)
    As eimaste ligo epifulaktikoi, kai as exoume to vou mas gia tou pou
trabave oi dromoi pou odngouv sta akra.
    Kai kati akoma: To 3avalew av kai eivai koivotopo, me tous av0rwpous dev
peiramatizesai. Dev apolueis kosmo kai "as paei va yofnsei" pou eipe kai
o Avtreas o Stokas. (Asteieusai asfalws, 'n oxi mnpws;) Av kapoioi meivouv
sto dromo sta pevnvta tous kai dev exouv me ti va ta.i.souv tnv oikogeveia
tous, e epomevo eivai va kavouv tnv A0nva South Central LA. Aplo eivai...

Xairetw sas

Stratos kai Kurstratos
     Di kai Ci

PS. Pote 0a stamatnsei autn n MALAKIA sxetika me to poios eivai pio Ellnvas
apo tov allo. Sa dev vtrepeste re, akadnma.i.koi polites tromara va sas
er0ei...
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