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From: deluca@cs.albany.edu (Kevin Michael DeLuca)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: Re: entry level software engineering openings at HP
Keywords: Boston Globe March 29
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:12:35 GMT
Followup-To: misc.jobs.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University at Albany, Comp. Sci. Dept.
Originator: deluca@watson.albany.edu

In article <2760@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, n2dimas@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Nick Dimas) writes:
> I'm so tired of hearing about the entry level stuff.  So, here is a job 
> advertisement from the March 29 issue of the Boston Globe.  I don't know why
> I'm doing this?  I'm also DESPERATE for an entry level job.  Here it goes.
> 
      ADD  DELETED
> 
> This is no joke.  Check out the Sunday March 29 edition of The Boston Globe.

It's nice of you to distribute job offerings you have come across. But it may not
be very smart. 

I'm sure there are many poeple that appreciate you doing this, but
assuming that you didn't get permission from HP to post this, you may have done
them (HP) an injustice. Did you think that maybe HP doesn't want these openings
posted to the net ?

Regardless, those of us looking for entry level positions thank you. I hope that
your actions don't hurt your chances of obtaining one of these positions.

Kevin
-- 
"Sometimes you're the windshield,            |  Kevin DeLuca
 sometimes you're the bug...		     |  SUNY Albany
 sometimes you're the Lousiville Slugger,    |  Computer Science
 sometimes you're the ball"                  |  deluca@cs.albany.edu
From: jyothi@franklin.ee.umr.edu (Jyothi Nagaraj)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: usenet group
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:46:20 GMT
Reply-To: jyothi@ee.umr.edu (Jyothi Nagaraj)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: jyothi@ee.umr.edu



Hi folks,

I have heard that there is a group on the net called 'ne.jobs' which
gives the ads for all jobs in the north-east region. Does anyone
know if there is such a group for the midwest region?  If yes, what is
it called and how do you subscribe for it?

Thanks in advance/

Jyothi Nagaraj
jyothi@ee.umr.edu
From: paradis@sousa.ltn.dec.com (Jim Paradis)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Method of mailing resume
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:12:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton, MA

As one who has had to screen resumes at previous jobs, I can offer a
little insight:

In today's economy, where a one-inch "help wanted" ad in the classifieds
can literally bring in MAIL BAGS full of resumes, it pretty much doesn't
matter how you send it in.  They'll all get opened and stacked by
secretaries or other clerical personnel before they even get screened.
You won't win points for professionalism or creativity by sending your
resume in a big envelope, a mailing tube, or taped to a cinder block.
All of these "creative touches" will hit the wastebasket long before your
resume gets into the hands of anyone who really matters.

In fact, if I have one word of advice offer job-seekers, it's this: 
Assume that *EVERYTHING* you send to a prospective employer hits the
wastebasket *EXCEPT* the first page of your resume.  This includes
envelopes, packaging, cover letter, and pages 2 through N.  Feel free
to include a cover letter and a multi-page resume if you'd like, but
chances are the cover letter will get tossed or ignored, and the resume
has to make the sale on the first page.  (I remember one round of 
job-hunting where I put a crucial piece of information in the cover
letter but not on the resume.  I got many calls for that one that were
inappropriate because they did not satisfy the condition I had mentioned
in my cover letter.  Most of the time the person calling me had never
*seen* the cover letter).

-- 
Jim Paradis (paradis@tallis.enet.dec.com) 
Can you see the world in a grain of sand?  
If so, what are surreal estate prices like down there?
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: pjm@access.digex.com (Paul Masline)
Subject: Re: "Entry Level?"
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:09:46 GMT

In article <LAWS.92Apr3120159@sunset.ai.sri.com> laws@ai.sri.com (Kenneth I. Laws) writes:
>
>I must be missing something in this thread.  The cover letter is
>under your control.  The resume is under your control.  If your
>academic experience is a minor part of your career profile,
>it's easy enough to hide it toward the end of your resume.
....
>judged.  If your recent graduation is only a date on a line near
>the end of the resume, I don't think it's likely that companies
>would pick it out as the principal screening criterion.
>
>
>					-- Ken

I graduated two years ago, but have posted on this thread earlier.  I'm now
interviewing for my second job.  In my resume, I include relavent experience
both before and after graduation.  However, it fustrates me when I go on
interviews that no one asks any questions regarding anything on my resume
prior to my graduation date.  For a while, I didn't include the graduation
date, but one of the first questions anyone asked was "when did you graduate."

I can relate to some of the fustrations of recent grads.  Fortunately, I
have a job and am looking to move on to my second job.  That gives me a)
experience, and b) the ability to be somewhat picky (since I already have
a job and don't have to take the first thing that comes my way).

Just my two cents worth.  All flames will be ignored.


-- 
Paul Masline
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                       pjm@digex.com
                                       pjm@po.cwru.edu
From: mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:49:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Entry Level Blues (some advice)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc

In misc.jobs.misc, jvm@cc.gatech.edu (John V. Martinez) writes:

Excellent advice for new and old Job Seekers.  Sell yourself and 
get away from the normal idea of job hunting and you will do much
better.   Great advice John, thanks

Jeff Mortensen
> 
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: r2yh2@VAX1.uakron.edu (Yang Hu)
Subject: Test
Followup-To: misc.jobs.misc
Summary: I am sorry for put wrong masage in today's misc.jobs.contract
Keywords: Test
Organization: The University of Akron, Akron, Ohio
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:45:27 GMT
From: RASMUSSN@ducvax.auburn.edu (Denise Rasmussen)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Salary ranges DC area
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:26:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Division University Computing, Auburn

Could someone give me an idea of a salary range for the DC area for a 
programmer/analyst with two years of this type experience with an 
additional year of customer\computer hotline support experience?   
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: cottle@b11.ingr.com (Tim Cottle)
Subject: Re: mention other companies during interview?
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:37:53 GMT

In article <1992Mar31.153325.27385@athena.mit.edu>, sike@athena.mit.edu (Michael G Sheldon) writes:
> 
> 
>  It seems to me that all the responses to this question have
>  been made by interviewees.  Are there any interviewers out
>  there that have asked this question?  If so, can you tell
>  us why *you* ask it?
> 
>  --Michael G. Sheldon




I ask that question frequently, especially when talking to new grads.  I do
it for two reason.  One is timing.  I like to have some idea of how long
we have to run through our decision process.  If he has interviewed within 
the past several weeks with other firms, I know I'll have to speed things up
so we won't lose him, should we chose to make an offer, because we didn't get
out in time.  The second reason is sheer curiousity.  Who else are you 
interested in?  Is there some sort of geographic pattern that might tell me
more about our relative chances?  Who else is hiring out there?  Are the other
firms in our line of business (which can supply info such as "is it the field
he is interested in, or the general industry?")?  If the other firms are in
varying industries, and the person is a computer scientist, chances are it is
the field that is of most interest.  On the other hand, if the other firms are
of a pattern, such as Boeing, McDonnell Douglas, NASA, Lockheed, and us, I'd 
say we have the outside chance at the hire, as those other organizations can
not only offer the specific field, but have a specific industry or product type
in common (aerospace).  


 --

 |  Timothy A. Cottle                  |                                    |
 |  Workstation Systems Development    |      Mit der Dummheit kampfen      | 
 |  Intergraph Corp.                   |      Gotter selbst vergebens.      |
 |  Huntsville, AL  35894-0001         |                                    |
 |  cottle@gman.b11.ingr.com           |                    --Schiller      |
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Entry Level Prospect
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:23:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <2021@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
>
>Since I hear all of the harping about the lack of entry level
>positions and how they are willing to work at very low wages
>just to get the experience I thought I would mention a
>company which I knows which used to hire entry level when I
>started professionallly.
>
>The Company is E-Systems and they are located in Florida,
>Dallas, Texas and Falls Church, VA.  They even paid for my
>interview and moving expenses and lent me money for a security
>deposit.  Note this was back in 1985.


E-systems is a huge multinational conglomerate-- they also own HRB
systems (in Linithicum, MD and State College, PA).



-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
From: arjay@philtis.cft.philips.nl (R.J. Kimmel)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Returning to the US from Europe - Need Info
Keywords: HeadHunters, Company Names, CONTACTS!
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:46:44 GMT
Organization: Philips Centre For Technology, Eindhoven

I am returning to the US (prefer Houston Texas) after living and working
in Europe (UK, The Netherlands, Belgium, Czechoslovakia) for three years.

I need contacts to help find a new job in the US.  I'v worked as a
Project Leader (Commercial Technical Projects), and as a Documentation 
and Publication Manager.

Mostly, I am looking for the names of companies which may be looking for
Project/Management staff, and or a few Headhunters that handle this sort
of position.  I don't have access to the Yellow Pages over here ;-)

R.J. Kimmel
(Currently in The Netherlands)
From: rebecca@netcom.com (Rebecca Davis)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,ba.jobs
Subject: Contract Logic Design/Schematic Capture - San Jose, CA/Recruiter
Keywords: Mentor 7.0/Functionality Mapping/Schematic Capture
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:59:19 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Contract available for a designer with programming experience
and software knowledge to do functionality mapping and
schematic capture using Mentor 7.0 and mapping into Cadence.
Should know H.P. Products I.E. DCS-PCDS ME-10 + 30, at
least 2 yrs Mentor expertise required.  

Can work offsite if you own Mentor 7.0.

Call Don Fritz/Engineering & Documentation Services for
more details.  408/358-6562 voice  *  408/358-6560 fax

15951 Los Gatos Blvd., Ste. 6, Los Gatos, CA  95032

  
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: rainer@spot.Colorado.EDU (Rainer Malzbender)
Subject: Re: Starting out as a consultant/contractor
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:22:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.221721.25315@jetsun.weitek.COM> paulc@jetsun.weitek.COM () writes:
>To all contractors or anyone in-the-know out there in netland::
>
>I am about to start going contract/consulting shortly.
>I need pointers from anyone who has been thru the process
>as to how to get incorporated, the ramifications of getting
>incorporated, how to lower the tax rate, how and what to do 
>with tax deferred savings plan ( is there a self employed 401K??)
>, etc etc.
>

For starters, get yourself a big thick tax guide like J.K. Lasser's. It
explains a few basic things relating to taxes and business, including some
of the pros and cons of the different business organizations.

There is no real reason to incorporate unless you're in a business that
will involve some real risk of liability; I would doubt that most software
consulting would require it. Being a sole proprietorship is
*much* simpler - you don't have to file a separate business tax return,
for example, just attach a Schedule C to your own. I've talked to several
accountants who agreed with me. If you want to do business under a trade
name (anything other than your own name), you'll have to register it with
your state (at least in Colorado).

One advantage of being self-employed is being able to set up a Keogh plan
or SEP (Simplified Employee Pension) plan for yourself, although if you
have employees you should be careful - there are rules about having to
treat everyone the same, essentially. The contribution limits to both
these plans are much greater than for an IRA. If you have a job and some
self-employment income, you can still make Keogh or SEP deductions even
if you're covered by a plan at work.

-- 
Rainer Malzbender 
Post-doc, Physics
U. of Colorado, Boulder (303)492-1366              rainer@shelley.colorado.edu
From: f71839389@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (D R Friedman)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Keywords: Los Alamos
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:36:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: skyblu.11APR199217364634
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am interested in getting an idea about life style, costs, and other
pertinent information regarding accepting a contract at Los Alamos.

This contract is short term (less than 1 year) and so costs play
an important factor as I am unfamiliar with this area and know that
living in Santa Fe is out and doing a two hour commute from Albuquerque
is going to cause my personality to wither.

Thanks for amy advice.  

Denny Friedman                            F71839389@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu

"Any kind of machinery used for shortening labour-except used in a cooperative 
society like ours- must tend to less wages, and to deprive working men of 
employment and finally either starve them or compel them to emigrate."

	--Manifesto Cooperative Community County Clare Ireland, 1883
	on the introduction of the reaping machine.

April 11, 1992:  Thousands of IBM workers were declared "surplus" and told to
get another job within IBM or get severance pay.
From: Bob_A_Warshawer@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: X Windows, customer support, Silicon Valley, CA (broker)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:57:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

Silicon Valley client needs several software engineers for customer support.
Skills required are: x windows, xlib, c.  Consultants should be ex-
programmers.  Initial calls from customers are answered and logged by 
client operators.  Consultants will return calls and work with customers to
resolve problems.  Contract is for 5 months. 

Please contact
Bob Warshawer or Jim Roberts
Application Group, Inc.
2685 Marine Way, Suite 1220
Mountain View, CA 94043

Tel:  415 968-6137
Fax:  415 968-3366
or    Bob_A_Warshawer@cup.portal.com
From: alan@StarConn.com (Alan Deikman)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Part Time Hardware/sysadmin support person needed
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:31:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

I am posting this for a friend.  Please do not reply to this
account.

Needed: a part time UNIX guru that can help a PDP-11 based
UNIX system running.  The business also needs some advice/
assistance in how to upgrade this system into a more
currently supported platform.  Some C programming work can 
also be had.

Location:  San Pablo, CA near Hilltop Mall

Terms/Fees negotiable.

Call:  Stan Jacobson, Docuprep Services, Inc., (510) 231-0585
=============================================================
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann)
Subject: Re: Becoming a software contractor
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:06:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

replying to something I wrote, dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (Dave Rogers) writes:

>Many contractors find it difficult to deal with job shops.  However, at
>some time or another everyone does.  What most contractors do not take
>into account is just how much overhead a job shop actually has.  For a
>first approxamation, if a job shop pays you $40/hr then they must bill
>the client ~$49/hr to break even.  This is because of insurance, taxes,
>office expense, local, state and federal paperwork and other direct
>costs not to mention 7.5% to Social Security.  Using the numbers you
>mentioned, which are valid, the job shop actually needs to bill at least
>$55/hr for this contract to make a profit.  If the shop has an active
>fulltime marketing person they will bill $60/hr.  What the contractors
>don't understand is why there is such a difference in the billable rate
>and what they get. 

>The job shop is responsible to pay its employees every two weeks even if
>the client is a late pay.  This means that typically the shop is three
>pay checks out of phase with the income.  Our shop maintains a sizable
>kitty to take care of this but one shop I worked for years ago had to
>borrow $200K at prime rate every two weeks to make payroll.  This was
>obviously a sizable expense but very common. 

>As a final point on the difference between client billable rate and rate
>paid to the individual, most large companies account for employee
>overhead at 150 to 250 percent of annual pay.  When they bill out your
>services via the work you perform for them they charge it at 200 to 900
>percent.  Common MIS chargeback amounts for MIS services are $900 to
>$1200 per day and this is for internal chargeback. 

I've got no problem with a job shop that charges a reasonable rate.  I
clearly understand the issue of overhead.  The problem is that I keep
encountering people who just want to broker my services without taking
on any of the responsibilities - I'm running into people who want to
take 30-40% off the top without making me an employee - so I'm still
handling taxes, insurance, etc.  It's true I don't "understand" this.
-- 
Mats Wichmann
Systems Software Consultant
alruna!mats@ossi.com (or mats@netcom.com)
From: steiny@steiny.UUCP (Don Steiny)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: YA possible insurance policy for contractors
Summary: Guardian Life
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:35:59 GMT
Distribution: usa


	I use Guardian Life, it has a health insurance policy which
my insurance agent says is the "Cadillac" of policies and he has it
himself.    It costs $300 per month for my wife and me.   It has
$250 deductable, it is 80% up to $2,000 and then 100% after that.
It has no cap.   It covers acupuncture and other such things.  It is
for small businesses.

Don Steiny
-- 
Don Steiny
Don Steiny Software
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(408) 425-0382
From: ser@ncsc.org (Ron Stogner)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Contract Programming getting started
Keywords: contract consulting
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:51:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: speedy.3516
Reply-To: ser@ncsc.org (Ron Stogner)
Organization: North Carolina Supercomputing Center

I am interested in getting started doing some contract programming and/or
consulting.  I have a fulltime job and only wish to do the work at home or
"on the side" to start with.  How do I get started??? I would greatly
appreciate
any assistance.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: SASHI CHIMALA <Chimala_sashi @Tandem.comm>
Subject: TANDEM "C" DATACOMM 6 Mo. Contract in FLORIDA (Broker)
Organization: ESQ
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:06:57 GMT


Xref: sparky misc.jobs.contract:1398 misc.jobs.offered:5179
From: venkat@al.UUCP (Venkat Shamapant)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: CONTRACT: UNIX INTERNALS ON MULTI PROCESSOR SYSTEMS - ORANGE COUNTY.
Date: 4 Apr 92 01:55:32 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: ICL, Advanced Development Group, Irvine, CA.

VSEnterprises is a software consulting house located in Orange County, CA.
We undertake software projects and place consultants with various clients.
We are in need of a contractor for the following:

DESCRIPTION:	Excellent opportunity.  Will be working on the 
		state of art SMP technology and distributed processing.
LOCATION:	Orange County
STARTING DATE:	Immediate
DURATION:	6 months to 1 year
QUALIFICATIONS:	Senior engineer with 5 - 7 years of experience.  Thorough
		knowledge of UNIX internals and Multi processing architectures.

If interested contact:
NAME:		Venkat Shamapant
VOICE:		714-458-6097
FAX:		714-454-8408
POSTAL ADDRESS:	Venkat Shamapant
		VSEnterprises
		21046, Cranbridge
		El Toro, CA - 92630.
Email:		venkat@icl.com
From: chetans@agora.rain.com (Chetan Shah)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: 3 Months, Portland, OR; UNIX SWQA
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:17:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.1992Apr6.191758.15546
Distribution: or
Organization: Open Communications Forum


 PLEASE RESPOND DIRECTLY VIA U.S. MAIL, EMAIL,  OR FAX

	*********************************************
	*					    *
	*     SOFTWARE QUALITY ASSURANCE ENGINEER   * 
	*				 	    *		
	*********************************************

DESCRIPTION:

Three month position, Portland, OR: Assist our Client's Sr. SWQA
engineers in conducting QA test suites and analyzing the results and
identifying problems.  Our Client has a large family of software products,
and QA duties will span the entire product line, and may involve testing
on several workstation platforms.

REQUIRED:

Minimum 2 years of SWQA experience.  Minimum of 1 year SWQA in a UNIX, C
environment.  BSCS or equivalent.

DESIRED:

Sun and other workstations, C++ training or experience, understanding of
electronics.


INTERESTED ?  RESPOND IN STRICT CONFIDENCE TO:

		Northwest Software, Inc.
		Attn: Job# SWQA
		P.O. Box 91396
		Portland, OR 97291-0396

		Fax: 503-645-5892

		Email: chetans@agora.rain.com

		Note: It is our policy to talk to you first prior to 
		submitting you to our clients.  Unless we obtain your 
		permission, we will not submit you to anyone.
		    
		(If you are not a perfect match, we prefer that you 
		mail us your resumes.  We will maintain it on our files
		for future contract/employment jobs.  Thanks for your
		understanding and cooperation)

ABOUT NORTHWEST SOFTWARE, INC.

Northwest Software, Inc. (NSI) provides Consulting Services 
to top-rated high technology companies across the United States.  
NSI has offices in Portland (Oregon), Los Angeles, and India.  NSI's
spectrum of services include: turn-key implementation of projects either
at our client's site or in India, and recruitment services.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract