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From: yeff@Apple.COM (jeff soesbe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Women's NCAA Tournament - Mideast + Northwest Update
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:07:33 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA


Here's an update on the Mideast and Northwest Regionals (from my local
paper).


Mideast Regional (at Champaign, Ill)
----------------

Stanford defeated Penn State, 15-13, 15-6, 15-13

Illinois defeated Nebraska, 15-10, 15-7, 15-10

Stanford and Illinois meet for the Mideast Regional championship on
Friday, December 11 at 7:30 pm Central time.  In the Bay Area, the
game will be broadcast on KZSU (90.1 FM), starting at 5:15 pm.


Northwest Regional (at Long Beach, CA)
------------------

Pacific defeated UC-Santa Barbara, 15-9, 15-2, 8-15, 15-6

Long Beach State defeated Illinois State, 15-8, 15-7, 15-4

Pacific and Long Beach State meet for the Northwest Regional
championship.  I don't know when the match is.


I listened to part of the Stanford game on the radio.  It sounded like
a good match overall.  Stanford seemed a little clunky, and Penn State
was playing rather well.  Stanford jumped out fast in the second game
(8-1? 9-1?) then held on to win.  In the third game, Penn State sped
out to about a 7-1 lead, then Stanford came back to tie it at 8-8.  It
was back and forth after that.  The key in the final game was the jump
serving of Marnie Treifenbach (one of Stanford's super-frosh).  She
served 4-5 straight to get Stanford back in the game (not all aces,
but Penn State had trouble passing them), and then served 3-4 straight
later to get Stanford a lead after the game was tied.  I believe one
of these streaks included two aces in a row.

I'll listen to the regional final, and post what I remember.

Go Stanford!!

jef
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From: wilder@nx20.mik.uky.edu (jeff wilder)
Subject: Re: Any awesome books?
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx20.mik.uky.edu!wilder
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:01:14 GMT

I'd recommend Ari Selanger's (hope I spelled his name right!)
_Power_Volleyball_.  Good stuff.  I read it 2 or 3 years ago,
so I suppose it could be a little dated, but it had a very strong
foundation.

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From: rhillier@random.ucs.mun.ca (Rex Hillier)
Subject: Canadian Jr Nat. 75/76[D
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: w$
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:06:17 GMT

Rex

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From: urs@objy.com (Urs Bertschinger)
Subject: Re: Attack Block?
Reply-To: urs@objy.com
Organization: Objectivity, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 19:10:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.220439.29570@e2big.mko.dec.com>, walsh@sparty.zko.dec.com (Chris Walsh) writes:
|> In theory, you can get called for a throw or carry when 'attack blocking', but in practice it seems
|> you can do almost anything without getting a call.
|> 
|> I've often wondered, and the rule book doesn't help me out.  Are there any rules of thumb about
|> what really is legal (and illegal) when directing a ball 'during a blocking action'?
|> --
|> Chris Walsh    			walsh@zko.enet.dec.com
|> 603.881.2302  (DTN 381-2302)  

From what I've read (I'm no expert), the rule of thumb refs should use is that
if the ball visibly comes to rest in the blocker's hand(s), a carry should be
called, otherwise  the play should be considered legal.

--urs

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From: bobh1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Haddleton)
Subject: Re: SV-5WH
Reply-To: bobh@nwsca.ATT.COM (Bob Haddleton)
Organization: AT&T Network Systems, Lisle IL, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:47:42 GMT

In article <18DEC199208253593@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> screb@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROBERT BEER) writes:
>I recently purchased what I thought was Tachikara SV-5W (at least that's 
>what it said on the box) from a local 
>Koenig's Sporting Goods Store.  However, when I got the ball home,
>took it out of the box and examined it more closely, I realized that
>it was an SV-5WH.  My question is this - what is the significance of
>the "H" ? 
>

The 'H' just means that is has been approved for High School use by the
National Federation of State High School Associations.  It's exactly
the same as the SV-5W.  I've got an 'H' too and I asked the same
question when I bought it.

-- 
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My opinions are my own, if I could only remember where I left them...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: pbwhite@rodan.acs.syr.edu (White)
Subject: Re: Are 'headers' legal??
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:12:14 EST

>I am not sure about over in america, but I assume that the new rule now applies
>that you are allowed to use anything above and including the knee. I have seen
>many a time when the ball has been return with odd bits of the body.
>Once I was on short cover and a very quick quick spike caught me on the knee
>as I was moving the other way. It turned out to be a perfect 'dig' to 2.5 .
>
Hey guys, 
	Lets not get carried away by the new rule of hitting the ball with
anything above the knee.  Not all of us on the net play USVBA rules.  College
rules have yet to accept this new rule, so don't try it unless you've cleared
it with the referee.
brian
From: storti@beach (Duane Storti)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Request for NCAA Regional Semi-Final Results (Women's Division I)
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:12:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec14.181205.28061
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington

Thanks to Albert Liu for posting the scores from the regional finals, but could  
someone please post the scores of the semi-final matches? I missed the scores  
from UCLA vs. ASU, BYU vs. USC. and Texas vs. LSU.
--


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Duane Storti			University of Washington
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: shugrue@spatial.eid.anl.gov (Leon Shugrue)
Subject: Fred Vargas
Organization: ANL
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:14:50 GMT

Please send me the phone number of Fred Vargas of Volleyball Chicago.
I need this number TODAY, Friday the 18th. Thank You.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: robp@landru.network.com (Rob Peglar)
Subject: Re: Are 'headers' legal??
Reply-To: robp@landru.network.com
Organization: Network Systems Corporation 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:00:57 GMT

Just a summary.

1)  Headers are legal.

2)  The FIVB changes to allow contact down to the knee have _not_
    been adopted by the USVBA for the 1992-93 playing season.
    So, no knee digs for US play this year.

Rob

USA National Referee

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From: gervasio@cs.uiuc.edu (Melinda Gervasio)
Subject: Re: NCAA Regional Results - notes
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:15:08 GMT

yeff@Apple.COM (jeff soesbe) writes:
...
>The blocks stats surprise me, because it seemed that Illinois had many
>more blocks than Stanford through the course of the match.  In

Indeed, according to the local paper, Illinois outdid Stanford on a
number of stats, including blocking (18-10), hitting efficiency
(something like .266 to .217), and aces (7-6).  (Of course, the paper
also neglected to mention other stats, such as service errors in which
I'm sure Illinois also "outdid" Stanford--several times over! :-|)

As Stanford coach Don Shaw put it, the bottom line is the win, and his
team somehow manages to achieve that.  I, for one, was quite
impressed.  The best of luck to Stanford in the Final Four!

Melinda
(Yet Another Illinois Fan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu)
Subject: Re: NCAA Regional Results (Women's Division I)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:07:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.210256.14360@brtph560.bnr.ca> ress@bnr.ca (David Ress P040) writes:
>In article <Bz7wov.M54@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:
>|> 
>|> Remember that the semis will be broadcast on EPSN on Friday,
>|> December 25 at 9pm PST and Saturday, December 26 at 9pm PST.
>|> The final will be on CBS on Sunday, January 23 at 2pm EST.
>                                       ^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Is this a typo, or is CBS really going to wait until everyone in
>the country has already heard who won before showing the match?

No typo there.  That's when they're planning to air it, and it'll
probably be heavily edited, too.

(The typo is that the semis will be shown on ESPN, not EPSN.)
--
Albert Liu
liu@cerl.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: USVBA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:44:21 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


The other day someone asked me if there was some kind of rating system for
teams or players for USVBA (men).  My immediate inclination was to say no,
but then it occurred to me that I don't really know that there isn't one,
just that I had not heard of one.  Is there some sort of regional or national
rating system for players or individuals?  Anyone?

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GC/MS Chemist |  The ones who love us least, are the ones we'll die to please.
U of Iowa     |  If it's any consolation, I don't pretend to understand them.'
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From: swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen)
Subject: Re: Attack Block?
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:41:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.003935.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> comptec91046@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:
>O.K. I understand that you CAN penetrate the opponents side but can you do an
>attack block (let me try top explain that).  Going up to block but the ball is
>moving slow.  Can I make a forward motion with both my hands and force the ball 
>down to the floor?  Not really hit the ball but force the ball toward the floor
>at a greater velocity with both hands.
>

Yes, you can "attack" block.  For instance, it is perfectly legal to
redirect a low, slow free ball back down into your opponents' court
with a block.  Just be careful not to throw the ball.  Or run into the
net.  Or go under.  You get the picture.

*swfc
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: whitwam@bnr.ca (Mark Whitwam)
Subject: Re: Any awesome books?
Reply-To: whitwam@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:52:05 GMT

In article <1gp1uiINN60r@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni) writes:
|> 
|> Now before everyone starts laughing, I was just wondering if there are any
|> good books which may teach me some stuff.  Not so much of 'how to hold you
|> hand' stuff, but more of strategy, the terms and numberings involved and 
|> oteher 'technical' information.
|> 
|> Thanks, ali.		momeni@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu

I read a really good strategy book a couple of months ago.  It written
by Stephen Fraser call Strategies of Competitive Volleyball or
something along those lines.   Very useful stuff in it, and easy to read.
It was published in Canada so your bookstore/library may have to order
it.

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                      Ottawa, ON, CAN K1Y     | inconsequential events
From: van@wucs1.wustl.edu (Van K. Vo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Lines question
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:50:33 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO

In article <1992Dec14.201503.14948@news.uiowa.edu> wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:
>
>I know that if the ball touches any part of the line, it is in.  My question
>is this:  When in serve receive, if a player's foot on the side line, is he
>technically off the court and in illegal rotation?  This seems inconsistent to
>me.  Obviously I would not be asking this question if I had not been called
>for it last weekend.  Also, if anyone knows where in the USVBA rule book it
>addresses this, I would appreciate it.
>
>wjm
>
>setters do it with their hands

r7c3: All players, except the server, must be fully on the court at the time
the ball is contacted for service.  Players in contact with the center line
are governed by the provisions of Rule 9, Article 6

r9a6: Touching the opponents' court with foot/feet is OK as long as some part
of that foot/feet is on or above the center line.

r1a2: Court markings are part of the areas they define.

Summary, because of r1a2, you may be on the boundary lines, but not a hair
outside (r7c3).  Of course, there was no specification that you had to be on
your side of the court, so r9a6 comes into consideration.  But yes, you can
be on the boundaries.

Van
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Any awesome books?
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:12:17 GMT

In article 1gp1uiINN60r@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni) writes:
>|
>|Now before everyone starts laughing, I was just wondering if there are any
>|good books which may teach me some stuff.  Not so much of 'how to hold you
>|hand' stuff, but more of strategy, the terms and numberings involved and 
>|oteher 'technical' information.
>|
>|Thanks, ali.		momeni@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu


The American Volleyball Coaches Association (AVCA) coaching book.  
Great for strategy and basic formations.  Also, Mike Hebert's
book on his program at Illinois is also pretty good, but very
specifically geared toward the women's college scene.  Both
are available from Spike Nashbar.

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From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (MICHAEL K ROGERS)
Subject: Re: Lines question
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:08:38 GMT

Eric J. Baumgartner (Eric.J.Baumgartner@dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec15.194800.6460@news.uiowa.edu>
: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:
: 
: > I guess my question is this: why is it that a foot crossing the center line
: > (while still on it) is ok but the same situation occurring on a side line
: > is not?  This seems somehow inconsistent to me.  Perhaps it is just me.
: 
: If your foot crosses the center line BEFORE the serve it's not OK, same
: as for the sidelines. Once play has begun, the emphasis shifts from
: "being in your own court" to "not being in your opponent's court" since
: you can chase balls as far behind or to the side of the court as local
: gym rules allow.

The commentary on USVBA Rule 7 states that you must be on the court
when the serve is contacted.  It does not state that you must be in
your own playing area (perhaps I missed it).  It seems to me that it
says you have to be in the 60-by-30-foot rectangle defined by the
side- and endlines.  There is another rule that says which side of
the centerline you have to be on.

(BTW, the "BEFORE the serve" should probably have been "AT THE MOMENT
OF CONTACT with the ball".  Before the serve there are few, if any,
restrictions on the positions of the players.)

Other rule systems may vary.
From: cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Any awesome books?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 05:07:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Now before everyone starts laughing, I was just wondering if there are any
good books which may teach me some stuff.  Not so much of 'how to hold you
hand' stuff, but more of strategy, the terms and numberings involved and 
oteher 'technical' information.

Thanks, ali.		momeni@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: CBS Coverage (was NCAA Regional Results)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:22:54 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I know this doesn't really belong here, but the NCAA wrestling coverage
is done the same way.  'Broadcast' long after everyone has forgotten who
even won.  Not only that but what they show ends up being less sport and
more of those syrupy personal interest stories that make everyone want
to hurl.  

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GC/MS Chemist |  The ones who love us least, are the ones we'll die to please.
U of Iowa     |  If it's any consolation, I don't pretend to understand them.'
              |                            -Paul Westerberg
wmaley@alchemy|
uhl.uiowa.edu|    -Setters do it with their hands
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From: lees@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Steve C. Lee)
Subject: Re: Attack Block?
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:37:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.003935.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> comptec91046@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:
>O.K. I understand that you CAN penetrate the opponents side but can you do an
>attack block (let me try top explain that).  Going up to block but the ball is
>moving slow.  Can I make a forward motion with both my hands and force the ball 
>down to the floor?  Not really hit the ball but force the ball toward the floor
>at a greater velocity with both hands.
>
>Chris
>



YEA.


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From: comptec91046@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Re: Lines question
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:40:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.194800.6460@news.uiowa.edu>, wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley) writes:
> 
> I guess my question is this: why is it that a foot crossing the center line
> (while still on it) is ok but the same situation occurring on a side line
> is not?  This seems somehow inconsistent to me.  Perhaps it is just me.


I thnk it has something to do with a word in the rules about being "completly
within the court"  if you are partly outside the line then you are no longer
completly in the court.  get it? good?  (at least that's how I justify it)

Chris Mullin (No not the great left-handed basket-ball guard in the NBA..though
	      I wish)
From: alee@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: NCAA Div. I Semi's Results
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:17:10 PST

Here are the results of the NCAA Div. I National semi-finals:

Stanford d. CSULB 15-10,15-12,6-15,15-9

UCLA d. Florida 15-12,15-12,15-10

The final is on Sat., I think.

Alex Lee
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:59:07 GMT

In article 92Dec10111954@bass.bu.edu, soph@bass.bu.edu (sophia hwang) writes:
>|about active blocking, isn't there a ruling that you can not pass (block)
>|over the plane of the net? moving hands to cover the block is standard, but
>|don't think you can break the plane...anyone else???
>|
>|soph


You can't interfere with an attempted set, but as far as blocking is 
concerned I think you can reach as far into the opponent's court as 
you are able to get the block.  I have seen guys get their hands pretty 
deep into the opponent's court for a block, when you hear people talk about 
penetrating, this is what they are doing.

Any comments Rob?

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From: screb@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (ROBERT BEER)
Subject: SV-5WH
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 18 Dec 1992 08:25 EST  

I recently purchased what I thought was Tachikara SV-5W (at least that's 
what it said on the box) from a local 
Koenig's Sporting Goods Store.  However, when I got the ball home, took it 
out of the box and examined it more closely, I realized that it was an SV-
5WH.  My question is this - what is the significance of the "H" ?

Thanks,

Bob