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From: oprytz@ulrik.uio.no (Otto Prytz)
Subject: Re: Los nin~os que hablan esperanto
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:18:59 GMT


I'm lagging somewhat behind as to this newsgroup, so maybe my contribution
comes too late. But anyway:

1. The Linguistics Slciety of America is open also to non-American
linguists, and in fact, many European linguists are members of it.

2. Several of the authors of the mentioned Encyclopaedia know what
Esperanto is and have dealt with it in their works. Peter Trudgill has
written a book on Sociolinguistics, and if my memory doesn't play me a
trick, he has dedicated a chapter to planned languages. Esperanto is
presented in a correct way there.

3. The well-known French linguist Andre' Martinet has taken a great interest
in Esperanto, and has even directed a Doctoral thesis on the subject. The
author of the thesis is Franc,ois Lo Jacomo, who has been secretary of
the "Socie'te' Internationale de Linguistique Fonctionelle" (SILF), and
who is now a member of the Esperanto Language Academy.

4. Some of Edelmiro's assertions about what does and what does not exist
in natural languages, are simply erroneous. To justify that some languages
don't have an indefinite article, he claims that those languages do have
expressions of indefiniteness (if I get him right). Well, Esperanto has
such expressions as well!

5. To constantly refer to Doctor Zamenhof as an occultist and an
obscurantist, is -- at best -- subjective. Those who have bothered to get
_correct_ information on Zamenhof's life and engagement in society, cannot
agree on such a characterization.

But I think we hav deviated considerably from the subject of this discussion,
and some of us also have deviated from sobriety, politeness and tolerance,
which should be qualities familiar at least to Esperantists. But maybe those
qualities are as unnatural for human beings as Esperanto is claimed to be
as a language? :-)
From: BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Stephanie Edelmann)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Minimum driving age?
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:51:57 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky

In article <C181uq.17x@inews.Intel.COM>
jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:
 
>
>What's the minimum age to get a driver's license in Germany?  Do
 
The minimum driving age is 18 yo.  However, a friend of mine
(in a german Bar - I'm not sure how reliable that was) told me once
that he got his licence at 16.  He said that he had a blind mother,
his father was dead, and he had to drive his Mom around quite a bit.
He said, he had to pass an "Idiotentest" at 16 and was allowed to
drive (only with his Mom in the car)
 
>teenagers have to attend a formal driving school, or is their
>a "learner's permit" like California where they can be taught by
>having a licensed driver ride along.  Also, I understand that there's
>a large license fee on top of any costs for driving school.
>
>
Yes, you do have to attend driving school.  There is a minimum number
of hours of practical training you have to attend.  (Was that 16?)
Most people that I went to school with needed between 18-22 hours.
(Our class geek took 50!!!! hours) The practical training includes
a minimum of 6 hours on a stick shift, 1 hour night drive, 1 hour
autobahn and I don't know what else.  We were also required to attend
12 hours of theoretical training.  While the practical training cost
$30/ hour (This was 10 years ago - am I really THAT old?) and the
practical training was free.  There was a fee for the test, but I
don't remember what it was.  The theoretical test is also somewhat
more difficult than the theoretical test here (at least in Kentucky)
I had to take the theoretical test, not the practical test in order
to get an american drivers license.
By the way, the driving test not administered by the police.  Don't
know who actually does do it, though.  (TUEV comes to mind, but that
doesn't seem right).
 
Stephanie
>--
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>Not an Intel spokesman
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From: abkevich@husc3.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Let's hit Nazis?
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:44:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1993Jan21.214455.19647
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <46309@unlisys.in-berlin.de>, stingray@unlisys.in-berlin.de 
(Christian Lampl) writes:
> I *never* wanted to excuse anything. I just tried or should
> I say still try to convince some people that this all
> is not a special German behaviour (copyright 1932) like
> some people seem to think.

Robert Greenstein>> No one else knew anything or had any responsibility, even
members of the SS. And oh yes, some US Marines committed rape.

Laurence Godfrey>> What else can you expect from the Germans? They always blame
someone else, it is never their fault.

These passages are written by angry people, but don't you think you provoked
them?
And this is just next step with a help of your logic:

Boris Kuschel>> I bet no one of you read a book that disputed the Holocaust. I
don't blame you, because they are not let in the bookstores. Guess who is
responsible for that? [...] Some of this "evidence" that you people spew out is
just plain false.

You see? That will happen if you will say: "Germans now should be concerned with
Nazism as they are concerned with US Marines raping". 

> No. But I don't feel b
> are excused (by not talking... or better... not even mentioning them.
If you will commit a crime should I tell court names of all people who did it
before? We are talking about Germans and Jews, why should we talk about USSR,
China, US Marines, Cambodia, England at the same time?
> fore? We are talking about Germans and Jews. Why should we talk about USSR,
China, US Maines, Cambodia, England of 19-th century at the same time? I am not
triing to compare, I just don't understand why?
*Sigh*
>*Sigh*

*Sigh*
Bye,
                               Victor
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: renzland@gov.on.ca (Peter Renzland)
Subject: Die Fischerin am Bodensee - suche Text
Keywords: Lied Text Musik Bodensee
Organization: Ontario Ministry of Health, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:28:10 GMT

Kennt hier jemand den Text dieses Liedes?  Ich erinnere mich nur noch
an die erste Zeile: "Die Fischerin am Bodensee is eine schoene Maid juche'"
(Oder so aehnlich).  Es ist auch moeglich dass es zu der Melodie einen
anderen Text gibt.  Weiss zufaellig auch jemand wo die Melodie herkommt?

Es gibt einen beliebten Schottischen Tanz ("Trip to Bavaria") zu diesem
Lied.  
-- 
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In real life:  <peter@renzland.org>   "Je danse donc je suis"  +1 416 323-1300
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,de.soc.kultur
From: ez012344@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Anatomie eines Flame Wars
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:56:06 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1993Jan20.005751.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>Can someone translate this please, as there's a possibility that it might
>be interesting
>
>Laurence

What? Does Larry seriously think anyone would do such a favor for him, after
he's made such a jackass out of himself?

Dan
deherrin@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: lilly@nhmfl.fsu.edu (Leonhard Lilly)
Subject: Re: Kommentare Re: diverses
Organization: Department of Physics, Florida State University, Tallahassee
	32306, USA
	<93Jan27.134026est.47983@neat.cs.toronto.edu>
	<lme2c1INNlb6@dimebox.cs.utexas.edu>
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:46:07

In article <lme2c1INNlb6@dimebox.cs.utexas.edu> werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) writes:
>[stuff deleted]
>Aber es wird nicht nur erwartet, dass diese eingeordnet werden, der Arzt sollte
>ausserdem noch alle Detailbestimmungen (und deren Veraenderungen) verarbeiten,
>denn man schlaegt ihm Zahlungen fuer gewisse Dienstleistungen einfach ab, und
>auf die Anfrage "wieso", kriegt man oft nicht einmal eine Antwort von der
>man Lernen koennte derartige Fallen im buerokratischen Dschungel zu vermeiden
>(die dem Arzt ja schliesslich unersetzte Eigenkosten verursachen), sondern nur
>eine buerokratische Nebelwand.

Im Falle meines Zahnarzt-Bruders wird diese Abrechnungsbuerokratie recht
gut und zufriedenstellend von einem Computer (PC) erledigt. Das
Einarbeiten der Veraenderungen ist dabei Aufgabe des Software-Hauses.
Fuer Allgemeinaerzte sieht die Lage (noch) nicht ganz so guenstig aus,
soviel ich weiss.

>
>Man wuerde meinen, dass es aber vielleicht moeglich waere fuer den Arzt da
>mal vorbeugend anzufragen, um sich beraten zu lassen, bevor er sich fuer eine
>Behandlung entschliesst (fuer die er nachher die Kosten nicht erstattet erhaelt)
>... 

auch derartige Anfragen kann man bequem an den Computer richten, er
beschwert sich sofort, wenn was nicht zusammen abgerechnet werden darf. 

>[stuff deleted]  
>-- 
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> "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"

Leo

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From: silber@orfeo.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Silber)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Ausdruckskunst (war Re: Cezanne und Co.
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:08:27 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: orfeo

In article <cabku01.728039661@mailserv> cabku01@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Hartwig Kuehbauch) writes:
>Hallo!
...
>Was ist eigentlich exakt der Unterschied zwischen Impressionisten und Expres-
>sionisten?
>

 Es ist nutzlich erstmals die Bezeichnungen ,,Impressionismus und 
 Expressionismus'' zu ,,verdeutschen'': Eindruckskunst und Ausdruckskunst.

 Der Impressionismus gibt wieder das was man mit Augen gesehen hat,
 aber nicht wie der Realismus detail-fuer-detail, sondern die Wiedergabe
 an der Leinwand der inneren Representation eines ,,Eindrucks''.
 der Impressionismus befasst sich in erster Linie mit Wahrnehmungsmodalitaeten,
 mit vermittelten DINGEN (-> Cezannes Landschaften z.B. )

 Der Expressionismus gibt wieder das was man mit Seele gesehen hat.
 Der Expressionismus gibt als ,,Ausdruck'' an der Leinwand eine Representation
 von Gefuehlen und von IDEEN.  (->Moenchs ,,geschrei'', Ernsts
 ,,Europa nach dem regen'')
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: heinz@eiunix.tuwien.ac.at (Heinz Herbeck)
Subject: Re: Neue newsgroup (war: mir reicht's jetzt)
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:12:07 GMT

Nikolaus Pollak (poll@patty.gud.siemens.co.at) wrote:
: Leider gibts noch keine soc.culture.austria.
: Da wuerden die Oesterreicher mehr ueber Oesterreich schreiben, was auch
: fuer alle Auslandsoesterreicher oder oesterreichinteressierte in aller
: Welt interessant waere. Man will ja nicht wegen jedem oesterreichischen
: Skandal die deutsche newsgroup belaestigen.
: 
: P.S.: Na wie waers damit ?

Gute Idee, ich waer' auf jeden Fall dafuer. Nur - wer halst sich die Arbeit
auf und organisiert Call for Discussion, Call for Votes etc. ??
(Vielleicht kann Siemens Oesterreich Arbeitskraefte fuer einen guten Zweck
zur Verfuegung stellen ... :-)

MfG
HH

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish
From: rzuw039@informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Juergen Weinelt)
Subject: Re: Let's hit Nazis?
Followup-To: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.jewish
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:40:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.055008.19602@husc3.harvard.edu> (21 Jan 93 05:50:08 EST) abkevich@husc3.harvard.edu (abkevich@husc3.harvard.edu) wrote:

> Christian Lampl>> Like in any war after WW1 (WW1 included).

> NO! NO! Just compare number of civilians, which were murdered in WW1 and in
> WW2. WW2 was not "just another war of 20-th century". You found similarities
> with purges in communist countries. I am not interested in these similarities. 
> It is NOT important at all. Or do you fill better because of massmurders in 
> other countries too?

It's been said so many times, but some people just don't seem to understand
the point that many Germans (and many of their non-German defenders) are
trying to make.

The accusation (originally made by L.G., i think) was:

   "Germans are inherently bad, evil, etc. etc., and they're even more 
    so than any other people on this world".

At least that's how it sounded to me.

Now, the defense was,

   "Look, there were similar crimes/cruelties/whatever in the history
    of the 20th century, and actually throughout the entire history
    of mankind".

THIS IS NOT MEANT AS AN EXCUSE FOR WHAT HAPPENED IN GERMANY DURING
THOSE DARK NAZI YEARS. It's merely a defense against the statement
that Germans are inherently (as a race, as some have claimed) worse
than other "races". We're not, and IMHO anyone who says we are is
just as racist as the Nazis were. Now flame me if you really need to.

-- Juergen Weinelt, Germany

 o  _        jow@sun.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de (preferred)
 | (_) \/\/  jow@hcast.adsp.sub.org
 '           jow@hcast.franken.de

"Think of it as evolution in action." (Niven/Pournelle: Oath Of Fealty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Anatomie eines Flame Wars
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 02:52:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.005751.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>In article <C14IDt.G5A@dscomsa.desy.de>, poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE) writes:

>Can someone translate this please, as there's a possibility that it might
>be interesting

>Laurence

Sure.  I do this professionally, though, and my spot rate is $40/hr.  
[Not an advertisement, folks!]  With a 2-hr minimum, it may be more 
than you want.  But do let me know. 

Roger

PS: one word as a freebie: 

     bubo.
From: achilles@ira.uka.de (Alf-Christian Achilles)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Suche Autor, Verlag, ISBN von "Your Swabian Neighbours"
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:54:53
Organization: Universitaet Karlsruhe, Karlsruhe, Deutschland.
Distribution: eunet
NNTP-Posting-Host: i90s8.ira.uka.de
In-reply-to: cstadaz@csv.warwick.ac.uk's message of 26 Jan 93 22:02:18 GMT

>>>>> In article <1k4cdaINNi07@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, cstadaz@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Miss S Stohlmann) writes:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk
[...]
> Ich suche, wie schon gesagt, jegliche Info (Autor, Verlag, ISBN, Preis usw)
> ueber das Buch 
>                   "Your Swabian Neighbours". 
>                                                 Ich weiss nur, dass der Autor 
> ein Amerikaner ist, und das das Buch in der Stadtbuecherei von Reutlingen 
> steht (Die Adresse oder Fax-Nr derselben wuerde mir auch helfen!).

> Es waere schoen, wenn jemand das fuer mich herausfinden koennte. 

[...]

> << sabine stohlmann, ch3.011, university of warwick, coventry, cv4 7al, gb >>
> >>   e-mail: cstadaz@csv.warwick.ac.uk  <<   >>   fax: +44 203 461606    <<
> -- 
>         fax:                +44 203 461606                  +49 5222 85901
>         e-mail:             cstadaz@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>                             sabine@dcs.warwick.ac.uk

Das muesste eigentlich ein Buch von Bob Larson sein, der auch "Getting
along with the Germans" geschrieben hat. Ueber die anderen Merkmale
des Buches (Verlag, ISBN, Preis usw.) kann ich leider nichts sagen.

Alf

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,de.soc.politik
From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Ist die deutsche Linke immun gegen Antisemitismus? Wohl kaum!
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:19:33 GMT

In article <1jmrriINNdt5@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> hi61@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>In article <0PZ0WVH@glasnost.de> mic@glasnost.de (Michael Czollek) writes:
>>hi61@mb71.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Deck) schreibt:

>>Tut mir leid, ...der Jude ... , das ist Sprache des Dritten Reiches.

>Das stoert mich weniger. Auf die Gesinnung, die dahinter steckt, kommt es
>mir an, und die erscheint mir aeusserst uebel.
>(Falls Du ein Jude bist, stoert Dich natuerlich schon die Ausdrucksweise
>an sich.)

Wieso nur Juden?  Sollte nicht *jeder,* der weiss, woher die Formulierung
kommt, davon gestoert werden, undsich wundern, wieso die Sprache des
III.Reiches ploetzlich verwendet wird? 

Genauso wie, wenn anstatt "der Jude X," es "der Arier X" oder "der Buddhist
X" hiesse, insofern als Religion, "Rasse," usw. nichts mit dem Thema
zu tun haben?   

Roger

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: ek@patty.gud.siemens.co.at (Ernst Krudl)
Subject: Steinfeld
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:32:55 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Steinfeld is an area nearly exactly south of Vienna, north and south of the
town of Wiener Neustadt (= Vienna Newtown). Is a not very futile area and is
at an higher altitude than the surroundings of Vienna.
If you are not able to find this name on your local map draw the following grid.
A line from Vienna South. A line from the nortern end of the Neusiedler See
to the West and a line from the southern end of the Neusiedlersee to the west.
The Steinfeld is approximately between the two hitting points.
Aside Wr. Neustadt most villages are around the Steinfeld, like Woellersdorf.
In Wr. Neustadt is the military acadamy of Maria Theresia, still active today,
and as far as I know the oldest military airport of Austria, which is still
in use (for civil or military or both I am not sure).

Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
Ernst Krudl, Vienna, Austria (ek@patty.gud.siemens.co.at)
From: wolfaefg@w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Schwanke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Berlin
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:35:14 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
NNTP-Posting-Host: w250zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de

Hi,

sowhat@gphs.vuw.ac.nz (Christian Zick) writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.181310.6016@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, caz@moselfacs.bellcore.com (Cynthia A. Zorn) writes:
>> I heard a rumor that a castle(?) that had been destroyed in Berlin,
>> former DDR,  was going to be rebuilt.  Does anyone have anymore
>> information on this?
>There is currently a discussion, in the spectrum of citizens, specialists,
>historic-building friends, reactionists, and politicians, to reconstruct
>the Berliner Stadtschloss (berlin City Palace) which has been taken down
>in the 50/60ies by the DDR government. Bits and pieces, mainly of the
>exterior decoration work of the palace, still exist or are being re-
>identified at various places in and around Berlin/DDR.
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^
This orthography of former East Berlin used to be the official one used by
the GDR government (only). I don't understand why you use it now.

>Think, however, you would plan to rebuild the Forum Romanum in Rome or the
>Acropolis in Athens into what the stones that have been used for them were
>previously.

Things like that have been done, for example in Knossos on Crete.
There has been criticism for it, and I also think that the reconstruction
of Berlin's castle would have a sort of Disneyland flavour to it.

BTW, the main difference is that the Berlin castle was destroyed voluntarily
and partly for ideological reasons, not just the decay of times.
Some people would argue that such barbarism had to be repaired.
I'd say it can't be repaired however.

>There is NO decision made, and no decision coming soon, in the matter.
>They would have to take down the DDR government building, and DDR people
>already claim this being a piece of THEIR history.

Which is of course true, but the shaping of Berlin's city center concerns
all citizens of Berlin (at least), don't you think? The parliament building
and its future are merely one part of the history of this square.

I don't think an exact reconstruction of the castle would make much sense,
but something has to be done in that area, it's ugly the way it is now.
Something new that reminds of the history of the place, including the castle
AND the GDR period (and much more ...).

>Christian
>sowhat@gphs.vuw.ac.nz

Cheers,

Wolfgang



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de
Subject: Re: Let's hit Nazis?
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:18:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.221011.18336@Princeton.EDU>, roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.221452.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>>In article <1993Jan21.055008.19602@husc3.harvard.edu>, abkevich@husc3.harvard.edu writes:
>>> Christian Lampl>> Let's hit the Nazis?
> 
>>> Sorry Chris, I don't see you hitting Nazis. You are doing everything to hit 
>>> Larry. I could understand why. I think that at the same time you are defending
>>> Nazis trying to hide their guilt. You obviously don't think so. May I am wrong.
>>> But at least you are not hitting Nazis. This the last thing you are doing. Till
>>> know the first and the last German who did hit Nazis was Sasha Pabst.
> 
>>What else can you expect from the Germans?  
> 
> I wouldn't know.  The Germans don't post to USENET.  Some individuals do.
> 
>>They always blame someone else, it is never their fault.
> 
> OK -- exactly WHAT did Christian do?  What should he personally take the 
> blame for?  He has made it quite clear that many, many Germans were responsible
> for what happened in the Third Reich.  Exactly what part of it was 
> Christian's fault?
> 
> And if you can't answer that one, why complain that he states that
> the 3rd Reich was *not* his fault?  
> 
> If you'd just snap out of your bigoted way of thinking for a moment, and
> realize that talk of national characteristics does you no good whatever 
> when dealing with individuals, and that you ALWAYS deal iwth individuals,
> you'd stop talking such stupid, offensive nonsense.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
Frankly I see no point whatever in arguing with a twit like you Roger.  First
you send a post offering to charge me for translating posts that an ignorant
German, perfectly fluent in English, had the discourtesy to make personal
comments about me in German, then periodically blinded with rage you send
streams of nazi apologist posts (8 or more at a time) to those of us who 
dare to criticise the Germans.

You're not worth the trouble,

Laurence