HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rhutchin@pilot.njin.net (Roland Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been hacking too long...
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:23:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In <9834301@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:

>tlukka@vipunen.hut.fi (Tuomas Lukka) writes:
>> Ever tried? You get the two pages (of course the layout has to be the same,
>> and the size as well) and put them flat right next to each other, in the
>> same position. The you start crossing your eyes so that you see THREE
>> pictures in front of you, and look at the middle one. The differences
>> will REALLY stand out when you scan the page.

>Gee, are you trying make yourself permanently crosseyed?

>The easy way to do this is to put the two pages on top of each other and
>hold them against a window (or put them on a light table if you have one).

The real easy way to do this is to use an optical/mechanical collating
machine.  Ever wonder how e.g. the editors of Shakespeare in ye old
dim reaches of the early 20th century managed to diff dead trees to
the point that they could (and did) discover you not only the
differences between different early editions, but all the corrections
made during a press run of a single edition, and even which pieces of
type had broken during a press run (thus indicating which sheets were
printed at the beginning, which at the end of the run).  Such a
machine superimposes the images of two pages and then switches rapidly
back and forth between them.  The tiniest differences fairly jump off
the page as they appear to flash at you.

And of course REAL PHILOLOGISTS could also grep dead trees in those
now-forgotten days.  (They would simply have their graduate students
compile a concordance, by hand, of the text that wanted grepping.)

-- 
Roland Hutchinson                       Visiting Specialist/Early Music
 Internet: rhutchin@pilot.njin.net      Department of Music
 Bitnet: rhutchin@NJIN                  Montclair State College
                                        Upper Montclair, NJ 07043
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: ae@sei.cmu.edu (Arthur Evans)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:55:46 GMT

dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard=) asks
>> What was the very first computer game?  When I say computer game, I
>> mean a game that would not exist without the computer. (ex: ZORK,
>> Adventure, Pac-Man, but not computer Tic-Tac-Toe or computer chess.)

I played SpaceWar at MIT Project MAC in the summer of 1963.  At the time
it was a mature implementation, so it had to have existed several years.

This may not count, but I played 3-dimensional tic-tac-toe on an IBM
650, using the console lights, in about 1958.  It played a pretty good
game, as I remember.  This was at Carnegie Tech, now Carnegie Mellon
University.

Art Evans
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From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: YKYBHTL Re Restrooms
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 20:55:35 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

ercm20@festival.ed.ac.uk (Sam Wilson) writes:

> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
> > 
> > cj "My tiolet [sic] doesn't run MS-DOS" l
> 
> Funny, nearly everyone else's does... :-)
> 
> Sam


Thats why its a toilet.

Daniel Max P. Drucker

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From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: command abbreviation
Date: 7 Nov 1992 02:37:26 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: boris.wpd.sgi.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Seth L. Blumberg (slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
> In article <foo> wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo) writes:
> >In article <bar>, sandee@Think.COM (Daan Sandee) wrote:

> >>Actually, even longer ago, it was
> >>  pip dest <-  source
> >>where the left arrow was a valid character on KSR38s and other wild machines.
> >
> >[...] about two thirds of our teletypes (ASR33's mostly) had the
> >back-arrow as the shift-O character.
> 
> So, on those ASR-33's that *didn't* have the mutant shift-O, you would type
> 	pip dest _ source

If any of you is familiar with the SPL language on the old HP3000's,
it too used "<-" (the back-arrow, I mean) as an alternate assignment
operator in addition to ":=".  It was quite popular in the early days
before people moved away from the old TTYs to more modern terminals.

Which meant that on later displays and printers one ended up reading
old code that looked like:

  x _ x + 1;

(Shudder..) Worse, some of the *really* *crusty* old-timers continued
to write code like that, too..

(Another digression: the original X11 font called "variable" had a
back-arrow where one would expect an "_").
--
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From: rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: FORTRAN food synthesizer program
Date: 13 Nov 1992 14:20:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) says:

	[program repost deleted]

>I wish I had C source code for this, but one thing I did was try to compile it
>as is in fortran on a DEC Unix Machine and a SGI Irix machine. On both it
>complained about an undefined dbl_ and I do not know fortran at all so beyond
>trying to run it through the compiler I am lost. Yes! I did edit out the
>message header and all that junk so that is not my problem.

	I compared the quoted code with what I uploaded, and one
character had dropped out.  This is what I get for using straight
ASCII uploads even of the shortest text :(  Here is the corrected
line:

       BAKED=DBLE(5.)
                ^        this is probably the source of the error msgs

	BTW most of the program is obfuscation to impress a 1978
audience probably not familiar with computers.  Here is a version I
translated into BASIC which may be a little easier to understand for
those who don't know any FORTRAN:

1 REM SYNTHESIZER ALGORITHM FOR DR. MCCOY'S FAVORITE DISH
2 REM TRANSLATED INTO BASIC FROM THE FORTRAN IV PROGRAM ON PAGE XIII OF
3 REM "THE OFFICIAL STAR TREK COOKING MANUAL" BY MARY AN PICCARD
4 REM (NEW YORK:  BANTAM BOOKS, 1978, 203 PP.)  ISBN 0-553-11819-6
5 REM TRANSLATED BY RICHARD F. DRUSHEL 9211.11
100 DIM FOOD$(15),DISH$(15),PAN$(15),FRYER$(15),WAFFL$(15)
110 FOR X=1 TO 15: READ FOOD$(X): NEXT
120 DATA "S","I","H","T"," ","M","A","R","G","O","R","P"," ","S","I"
130 FOR X=1 TO 15: READ DISH$(X): NEXT
140 DATA "N","E","T","T","I","R","W"," ","N","I"," ","A","T","A","D"
150 FOR X=1 TO 15: READ PAN$(X): NEXT
160 DATA "L","A","R","E","N","E","G"," ","N","A","R","T","R","O","F"
170 FOR X=1 TO 15: READ FRYER$(X): NEXT
180 DATA "V","I"," ","T","I"," ","Y","A","M"," ","N","U","R"," ","N"
190 FOR X=1 TO 15: READ WAFFL$(X): NEXT
200 DATA "O"," ","K","N","U","J"," ","S","E","N","I","H","C","A","M"
210 PRINT FOOD$(1);WAFFL$(3);DISH$(2);FOOD$(12);DISH$(3);FRYER$(2);WAFFL$(13)
220 REM FORMAT(2X,///,5X,20A2)
230 BAKED=5
240 RECIP=71/113
250 RECIP=RECIP*BAKED
260 PRINT WAFFL$(13);FOOD$(3);DISH$(10);WAFFL$(13);WAFFL$(3);PAN$(6);WAFFL$(4),RECIP
270 REM FORMAT(2X,///,5X,7A2,F12.6)
280 PRINT DISH$(2);PAN$(5);WAFFL$(6);FOOD$(10);FRYER$(7);WAFFL$(2);DISH$(10);FRYER$(4);FOOD$(5);WAFFL$(11);DISH$(1);PAN$(8)
290 PRINT PAN$(7);WAFFL$(1);PAN$(14);DISH$(15);FRYER$(6);FOOD$(3);WAFFL$(9);FRYER$(8);PAN$(1);DISH$(4);WAFFL$(12)
300 STOP
310 END

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From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been hacking too long...
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 13:13:59 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

RICHARD@ttt.kth.se writes:

> In article <79aDTB6w165w@mertwig.UUCP> xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) wr
> 
>    The modern exchanges should be able to be programmable to respond to a 
>    given tone and accept it as a deletion of the most recently entered 
>    digit. I know of no modern exchange that immediately sets up the 
>    connection with each digit.
> 
> The problem is that connection is often set up as soon as a uniq number is
> entered, valid or invalid. If I type 777552 instead of 777551, how do I delet
> that last digit?

Good point, but don't you mean 7775552 instead of 7775551? If you were ot 
enter the last digit wrong, I agree, theres nothing that can be done.

But up to the second to last, how about using the * or # key as a "last 
number delete"?

Oh, wait. You're in .se, sweden, right? Are telephone numbers only 6 
digits there? If so, I apoligize.

--
Daniel Max P. Drucker, the network communications wizard.

mertwig!xyzzy@jaflrn.uucp                   amateur radio callsign pending
Disclaimer: It's all my fault!

"Difficulty! It's the single simplest machine in the entire Universe!" -HHGTTG
From: i3558@newsie.dc.dk (Soren Michael Roug)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
Keywords: game
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:06:41 GMT
Organization: Datacentralen A/S

dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch) writes:

>In article <BxF44y.9Kr@acsu.buffalo.edu>, dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard=) writes:
>|> What was the very first computer game?  When I say computer game, I mean a
>|> game that would not exist without the computer. (ex: ZORK, Adventure,
>|> Pac-Man, but not computer Tic-Tac-Toe or computer chess.)
>|> 
>I'm pretty sure that the first game written for computers was Spacewar, written
>for one of the early PDPs from DEC (PDP-1,-3 ?), a two-player game in which the
>goal is to kill the other player without being killed :). Spacewar is still
>around, someone wrote a version which runs under X.

Stephen Levy has in his book; Hackers descriped an early spacewar game at
MIT. As I recall it ran on either a TX-0 or a PDP-6 and was
graphics-based. The game was donated to DEC which used it for testing, and
kept it in core when shipping their systems so it would come up ready to
go when the customer plugged the computer in.
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From: patman@ctron.com (Patrick C. Mancuso)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Stupid ads
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:22:15 GMT
Reply-To: patman@ctron.com (Pat Mancuso)
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.

In article <1992Nov02.091627.16874@donau.et.tudelft.nl> wolff@zen.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff) writes:
>aeschwar@ncsu.edu (Adam E. Schwartz) writes:
>
>>The stupidest ads I've seen have been in mail order catalogs. Besides
>
>About stupid ads: I have an add for a headphone set hanging on my wall:
>
>Super headphones               only $10,-
>range 20.000 to 30.000 Hz.
>

Back during the 1976 winter olympics, the local TV listing folks were getting
into the spirit of 'that wacky metric stuff' by listing such favorite
events as 10,000 Millimeter Speed Skating, and 100 Centimeter cross-
country skiing.  They never did seem to get the hang of that milli-deci-centi
stuff...  

Pat
--
patman@ctron.com
From: ercm20@festival.ed.ac.uk (Sam Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: domain questions
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:46:41 GMT

xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) writes:
> lesmith@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lee Harvey Oswald Smith) writes:
> 
> > taft@adobe.com (Ed Taft) writes:
> > 
> > >In article <1992Nov5.112527.5662@pollux.lu.se> magnus@thep.lu.se
> > >adopted the convention of identifying countries with two-letter codes?
> > >It certainly doesn't seem very user-friendly. Perhaps a concession to
> > >some archaic database technology?
> > >-- 
> > Think about it. Would  *you* want to type .united_states or .netherlands or
> > .australia at the end of an email address?
> 
> No. I don't think geography should have any part of addressing. I prefer 
> to roam in cyberspace without knowing where i am!
> 
> Or having to know!

[ There seem to be too many 'Fred Bloggs writes:' lines here, but what
   the heck...  ]

If what you want to do is roam cyberspace that's probably fine (but it
would limit you scope for boasting, surely - 'hey I found this real cool
MUD in Azerbaijan...').  If you want to send email (or a multimedia
whotsit with touch and smell inclusions) to a colleague in the
University of Little Rock or WhizzyProgs Inc.  having a mnemonic address
for them is quite a useful feature. 

Sam Wilson
Network Services Division
Computing Services, The University of Edinburgh
Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: aduell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tony Duell)
Subject: Re: value of a pdp-11,va
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:27:15 GMT


Actually, the 11/45 has the purple front panel - similar to the 11/70's
panel, except for 4 fewer address switches/lights, no 16/18/22 bit
indicators, and a re-arrangement of the status lights. 
 Far from being only suitable as a anchor, the 11/45 was actually faster
than the 11/70 on some operationds, and equal speed on the others
(assuming bipolar memory on the 45).
 -tony 'PDP11 Hacker' Duell
ard@siva.bris.ac.uk
(Who still runs a pre-2000 PDP11/45)
From: aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Don't you hate it when...
Date: 5 Nov 92 03:57:12 GMT
Reply-To: aki@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us

In article <1d9pe1INNm6h@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, danodom@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Dan Odom) writes:
> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
> 
> >BTW: _Why_ does IRIX's man insist on trying to do bolding by overstriking 
> >characters three times on a VT100?  Sheesh!
> 
> Probably because that's what System V does...


Hey, overstriking is still current. It's just five years that
I saw a printer terminal being sold for $5.  There may still be
some out there... working!  I love traditions.  I submit that
there will be no attempts at removing overstiking... ever.
Besides, who cares for fancy CRT consoles and _laser_ printers
anyway?

Aki.
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From: koos@kzdoos.hacktic.nl (koos van den hout)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: \dev\nul THE REAL ANSWER (was Re: Men's Public Restrooms)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 11:44:00 GMT
Organization: HIN / BBS Koos z'n Doos
NewsSoftware: Rnf 0.7b

harley@engrhub.ucsb.edu (Hahn) writes:

>>>In the version of MS-DOS I spoke of both nul and null were valid
>>>device names for the bit bucket and \dev was ignored when supplied.
>There are certain reserved file names in DOS.  When you use one
>of these names, the directory is ignored.  For example:
>\DEV\NUL  is the same as \NUL is the same as \FOO\NUL.
>The same goes for PRN. etc.
>
>For example, DOS will not let you name a file NUL in *any*
>directory (try it and see).

Well, yes and no.. Norton's filefind (4.5) will find a file with the name of a
device in any given directory.. When I try FF PC$MOUSE, I get a PC$MOUSE in
every directory.

Even better is "DIR LPT1" under OS/2(both 1.3 and 2.0), which reports :

Volume ...

Directory of \DEV

SYS0002: The system cannot find the file specified.

So even OS/2 'knows' the \dev convention.

>who knows everything about everything.  He told me it was the
>FILENAME, not the directory name which was reserved.
>In fact, you can't even make a file called NUL.FOO (try it)
>or for that matter NUL.BAR.

Really funny is patching the name of NUL in the in-memory image of COMMAND.COM,
then making a directory 'NUL.SEC' and then putting the correct name back.
Really gives great fun, especially under Novell (try and get rid of it!).

                                        Grtx. KH

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Subject: Re: Where did 'ethernet' come from anyway  was: Re: Correct pronunciation of 'ethernet'
From: cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Clare West)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:12:01 GMT
Organization: Dept of CompSci, U of Auckland

lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
>
>>If this is in the FAQ then I grant one and only one of you permission to 
>>come kick me in the teeth until my toes bleed.
>>
>    I'd be extremely surprised if TNHD didn't have an entry for
>    same...so if it does, we can let Eric nominate a kicker...and if
>    it DOESN'T, then you get to kick Eric...  >:-)

If its in TNHD then its not under ether... (essentials is followed by
evil) should it be there tho? I think so.

clare

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From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Strange AT&T answering machine behavior
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 12:41:14 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group

keith@celia.UUCP (Keith Goldfarb) writes:

> I have one of the new AT&T
> all-digital answering machines.  These things are nice,
> compact units, with enough RAM for about 7 minutes of
> digitized phone speech.  It's a no-frills answering machine,
> except that it does have a digitized voice which tells you
> the day and time of each recorded call.
> 
> The other day I was sitting in my living room with a couple
> of other people and suddenly this machine starts making
> noise.  It all happened so quickly and was so strange that
> we couldn't be sure of what we heard, but a vote lead us to
> conclude that this thing had spoken the words "Like a pig".
> Has anybody heard any stories along these lines?  It seems
> quite plausible that some programmer at AT&T could put in
> some funny messages to be played at random times.

> Like a pig
Mine says have a fig.


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Value of a PDP-11,VAX-11/750?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:07:25 GMT

In article <BETSYS.92Nov7202627@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>Two years ago, DEC gave our VAX dept $1000 each on two 11/750's,
>mainly as an incentive sort of discount. Our understanding was that
>they were going to be crushed. There *do* seem to be a lot of hobbyist
>groups around who have working VAX'es and PDP/11's so you might find a
>taker. The problem, of course, is that they are VERY expensive to
>ship, and require special power. Also in 1989 DEC was charging $15k a
>year to service them, so repairs aren't cheap!

Like any slick car salesman knows, you can claim anything on a trade-in, and
the sucker will occasionally believe it.  If DEC gave you a no-discount price
compared to what you could have negotiated for, and then claims to have
knocked off $2000 from that myth, did you actually get a penny for them?

In any case, for almost as long as that, I have heard (and participated in
passively) of stories where 780's and less were given away because DEC, and
everyone else gave no value to these machines, which literally wound up in
dumpsters (I witnessed one dropping).

Some of these models have problematic weight, size, power, cooling problems
that make them undesirable, aside from any architectural problem, etc.  In
fact, short of the LINC-8 and PDP-12, there never were any PDP-8 models that
were as physically large as these boxes.  (Multiple cabinets don't count if
you can break them down into single cabinets that are smaller, etc.)

>   I wouldn't buy one as an investment, but they are probably still of
>some use to someone.

Well, if someone really wants them, they apparently are missing out on
many "opportunities" to drag them away.

cjl
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What was the 1st computer game?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: game
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:59:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.042012.16213@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes...
>Re the original use of DACs and an oscilloscope to make the Spacewar
>display:
> 
>I'd *really* like to see somebody implement that, as a gadget to be used
>with an oscilloscope.  Good oscilloscopes are now quite abundant, even
>if the screens are a bit small.  Let's see... maybe you could run the
>game on a PC using the printer port for output, and alternating between
>two DACs for X and Y axes; or maybe some custom interfacing is needed,
>or even implement it in a microcontroller such as the Motorola 68HC11
>series.  Any takers?
> 
	Long time ago we did that on our PDP8. We didn't have the money
	to purchase the fancy DEC display, but had enough to get the bare
	bones roll-your-own interface. A couple of special wire-wrap boards
	and some flip chip modules later, (and a standard TEK scope running
	in x-y mode,) and we had almost the equivalent.

	I ended up patching spacewar to fit the slightly different config
	of our cluged interface, plus make up for the lack of a real-time
	clock by adding appropriate wait loops.

	And, since we didn't have sources, I ended up doing all the patching
	by hand, using the switch register to bit bang. Yes, it took a while.

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