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From: anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Dana Uehara c/o Andrew Nash)
Subject: Re: The Littles
Keywords: Littles
Organization: Toonaholics Anonymous, Turtleholics Anonymous, DA-Holics Anonymous
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:15:07 GMT

Does anyone know if this series is out on videotape?  Since I don't get the
Family Channel in my area I'd really like to know if any tapes of this series
exist, and if so, where I might be able to find one.

Responses via E-mail or post are fine.

Thanks in advance for any help!


------Dana Uehara [c/o <anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu> (Andrew Nash)]-------
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: Sean Alan Squier <ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Who did these cartoons?
Keywords: ~r 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:28:35 -0500


OKay, Who can tell me please who created these cartoons::

Speed Buggy
Wheelie and the Chopper Bunch
Jabberjaw
Tom Slick

and any others that followed that time period...
thanks....

Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Co.)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: kenk@mips.com (Ken Kubey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Tennessee Tuxedo Question
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:45:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: spim.ku9lpbINNeff
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In article <dube.702855658@milton> dube@milton.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) writes:
>cec35848@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Carroll) writes:
>
>>	In _Tennessee Tuxedo_, Tennessee was the penguin, and
>>his partner was Chumley the Walrus.  What was the professor's/doctor's/
>>whatever's name?  You know, the guy with the 3-d BB?

Phineas J. Whoopee (probably spelled wrong)

>Wasn't it Dr. Stanley Livingston?

That's the name of the zookeeper

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From: geoffrey@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Brandenburg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: animation thats really for adults..
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:23:45 GMT
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science

In article <3BCEUEJ@taronga.com> arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>In article <92095.122158DLW100P@ODUVM.BITNET>, DLW100P@ODUVM.BITNET writes:
>> I'm doing a paper on the theory that cartoons are really aimed more towards
>> adults than the kids they are intended for.. 
>
>You just hit my pet peeve.
>
>Animation isn't just for children!!  Argh!!
>
>Also, the writers write for more than one audience.  The target audience
>(as declared by the powers that be at the network?) may be children, but
>they realize that other people are going to be watching too, like teenagers,
>and young rabid college fans and adults, so they write for them too.
>
>Granted, this might not be true for all animations, but it's certainly
>true for all the ones I watch.

I was thinking about this the other day.  Is it accurate to say that kids (at least
younger ones) watch cartoons merely because they're animated?  I don't have
kids, and I don't really remember why I watched cartoons when I was a kid, (Well,
because I liked them--I just don't remember why I liked them) so I don't know if
this is true or not.  It *is*, however, the only way I can explain the existence
of some of the Saturday morning drivel that I avoid like the plague.  

So, if the kids don't really care about the plot and dialogue, but more about
visual humour and/or action, that leaves the writers and animators free to write
plots and dialogue that is geared towards both adults and kids.  Disney and WB
seem to operate this way.  Besides, isn't it natural for adult writers and 
animators to write and draw for adults?

I realize I'm making very broad generalisations in this posting, but it's always
easier to work with stereotypes. :-)  What do those of you with children think?  
Do they care much about dialogue and plot, or just animation?

Sean Brandenburg
geoffrey@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: TV This Week (April 11 - 17, 1992)
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:28:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.235907.21007@ctr.columbia.edu>, smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee) writes:
> From rec.arts.tv (hope I edited the newsgroups line correctly...):
> 
> In article <12450@umd5.umd.edu> jp443@macbeth.umd.edu (QA Team) writes:
>>TV This Week (April 11 - 17, 1992)
>>==================================
> 
>>ABC has announced its fall Saturday morning lineup.  (Those with good
>>memory will remember that NBC has removed Saturday morning cartoons
>>with "Satuday Today"...)  Gone are "Hammerman", "Pirates of Dark Water"
>                                                   ^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^
> I can't believe it.  I just can't believe it.
> 
> "Pirates of Dark Water" is the best show on Saturday morning.  Now it's
> going the way of all other quality cartoons.  I suppose it was inevitable,
> but I can't believe they would cut the series off halfway through the Quest.
> 
> I find myself extremely perturbed at ABC.

  I agree completely.  There are so few "serious" (i.e. not comedy-oriented
like Disney Afternoon (though I like Rescue Rangers) or TTA) American series
with any degree of quality whatsoever that it is sad to see yet another one go. 
I have many complaints about Dark Water, but, compared to what else is on, it
has been quite good (I _detest_ Niddler's new voice.  The original voice actor
that played him back in Feb. 1991 was much better.  I also don't like the fact
that they cut out scenes from the first five when ABC air(ed/s) them.).  The
first five were better than the next eight, in my opinion, but it is still good
enough that I have taped them all in SP.  An, with #13, after they find the
last of the Treasures that Ren's father hid, the Quest, as you said, is only
half over.  (My brother claims that there _are_ plans to finish the series
before it quites, so there is hope, but I don't know how reliable his
information is.)

  * sigh * The future of serious animated series in this country looks dim. I
guess I'll just have to stick to importing anime...

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From: ncc1701@madoka.its.rpi.edu (Mark O. Chadwick)
Subject: How to Determine if Original cel (Was Re: Lady & Tramp Cel Question)
Reply-To: ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:15:42 GMT

jeffa@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Alley) writes:

>I have a chance to buy an original hand inked cel from Lady and the Tramp.
>The cel is a full figure of Tramp and is in excellent condition - no
>peeling or chipping. The person offering it to me is a collectibles
>dealer. She tells me that she got it from a gallery 6 years ago in
>California.  I have no reason to believe that it's not original, but
>I'd like any comments/hints about what to look for to try to convince
>myself that it truely is original.
>Also, the price is $1800.00. Does this seem reasonable? I've seen
>similar cels offered in catalogs for $1800 - $2200.

This brings up a question I had the other day:

How can one tell, if someone claims that a cel is a "production" cel, if it
really is?  Someone's told me that I should look for scene numbers or
some such, but that can always be scribbled on.  I ask because I am
looking into getting an original production cel for a friend, as well
as having had the chance of buying one last weekend and not doing so because
I didn't want to spend money on an un-original (i.e. copy :-)  (Yes,
the cel was painted, not litho'd, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything)

Any help, etc etc.  Thanks!  :-)


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From: umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: animation thats really for adults..
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:51:20 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Apr5.225833.26818@u.washington.edu> dube@milton.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) writes:
>I think we're in real trouble with this string.  As it has been brought up,
>there's no objective criteria for the distinction "for adults."  Also, what
>reason is there to assume that "intent" is limited to adults OR children?

I don't think anyone is claiming that a cartoon is limited to either
audience strictly, but there are often very obvious references that 
most children (and a lot of adults) won't get. One that pops into
my mind came from the ROcky & Bullwinkle show, in one of their silly
episode titles, namely about the Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam. Come on,
how many kids have ever heard of the Rubaiyat? (sp?) I would think
a lot of parents watch TV with their kids; the 'adult' content of
a cartoon would be directed at them.
>
>Rather, it seems more productive to disregard the specific intent of producers
>and directors and look instead at "what is," rather than "what should be."
>
>Here are some general comments based on such a perspective:
>
>Many adults like Ren & Stimpy, Darkwing Duck, The Simpsons, and a lot of anime.
>
>Bullwinkle and Rocky have found a rabid adult audience after many years.
Many of the puns (e.g. Wassamata U., Bullwinkle's alma mater) are for
older audiences.>
>Heavy Metal, Rock & Rule, and most of Ralph Bakshi's films (Hey Good Lookin',
>Coonskin, Lord of the Rings, Wizards, the upcoming Cool World) were rated
>R by the MPAA.
>
>Bakshi's Fritz the Cat and Heavy Traffic were rated X.

Well, there was a very *good* reason that Fritz the Cat got an X. Good
movie, actually, if a bit strange. You know, though, the college
audience laughed like hell at all the sexual and racial themes, but
actually groaned or held a disgusted silence suring the scene in which 
the chickens get mashed. That bit of violence seemed to be the most
objectionable area, judging by the reaction. Interesting. ( I thought
the scene *really* was stomach turning)
>
>It is a misconception that MGM's Tom & Jerry as well as WB's Looney Toons and
>Merrie Melodies were made for children and/or made for television.  They were
>cinema features for almost 50 years.  Thus, they were not made for adults,
>children, or even a specific "family" audience.  Rather they were made for
>"anyone."
>
>The film Who Framed Roger Rabbit was popular with adults.

When it was on TV, can you believe the two funniest lines were censored!?
Baby Herman's complaint about his 3 year old "dinky" was changed to "body",
and the comment about Jessica's booby traps was replaced by the trite 
comment "Good going, Jess." I was shocked; there's much more blatant
stuff going on on prime time every night!

CKC
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: smmcafee@mtu.edu (Sean McAfee)
Subject: Re: The Last Unicorn
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:06:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.160501.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>  I just saw _The Last Unicorn_ for the first time on Friday, and it was
>fantastic!  I urge anyone who hasn't seen this movie to go rent it from your
>local video store right away.  (Or buy it; I've seen it as grocery stores for
> $7)

I totally agree.  The book is just as good as the movie, incidentally.

Does anyone know if a soundtrack for this movie was ever released?  I'd kill
to have one.  I liked it so much when I was a kid that I used the low-cost
but low-quality method of holding a tape recorder up to the TV to get myself
a copy of a portion of the soundtrack.  I lost that copy ages ago, but I made
another one that I still listen to on occasion.

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From: megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MEGAZONE 23)
Subject: Re: 5 Part DARKWING/DUCKTALES Coming
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:18:17 GMT

Notice that the post about the 5 parter and the baby on RR came from 
Florida, but at just after midnight GMT, i.e. It was about 8 or 9 PM on April
first for the poster.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison)
Subject: How would you rate disneys movies?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:36:57 GMT


OOPS I guess that should be animated movies.. So How would you rate them
amongst each other?? Let's take a poll.. You've got 30 votes which do
you think is the best and which do you think earns that #30 spot??

I'll be happy to post the results



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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: More Animation News on "Entertainment Tonight"
Keywords: RaD Ferngully Nemo Bakshi Tom Jerry ET
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:40:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.3+rj1#n
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

pochron@cat28.cs.wisc.edu (David Pochron) writes:

> They also talked with Mr. Hanna, from T&J:TM, and he credits BatB with all
> the sudden interest in animation.  (I don't agree with this assessment, but
> oh well.)

The momentum from BEAUTY AND THE BEAST means that we'll be seeing a lot
more animated features than usual released over the next few years, but
it's the success of THE LITTLE MERMAID that got a lot of the stuff coming
out *this* year greenlighted.    

> Tom & Jerry: I was skeptical of the characters being given voices at
> first, but when I heard them speak, it wasn't so bad after all! 

From the footage that they showed, it looks like the T&J feature has some
real potential.  Granted, fifteen seconds of incomplete work isn't much to
go on, but most of my misgivings about the project went away after seeing
what it was actually shaping up like.  I *love* the fact that they're
using the original character designs.  The whole thing looks a lot more
like the old MGM shorts than it does the '70s "Tom And Jerry Show" trash. 

> They also showed some pencil sketches from this film.  No computers??   

Pencil-test doesn't necessarily imply that they're not going to use
digital ink & paint -- the computers don't usually come into play under
after the pencil-test stage anyway.

> RaD & Ferngully: Lots of stuff, talked with Glenn Campbell (Chanticleer)
> and Robin Williams. (The bat)  Since these films are released or almost
> released, I won't comment. 

I'd like to hear just how well the story plays in FERNGULLY.  It's obviously
meant as a message picture, but how heavy-handed is it?

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: e_clarke@oz.plymouth.edu (WIZ (in training))
Subject: Re: Sick & Twisted Animation Festival? N.H.????
Reply-To: e_clarke@oz.plymouth.edu (WIZ (in training))
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:27:52 GMT

>|> 
>|>         If you get the chance, go and see it. Its been running here in 
>|> Arizona for some time now, both in Phoenix and Tucson. I've seen it with 
>|> three different groups of people, and the overwhelming response was 
>|> positive.
>
>
>	It's playing here in Utah right now, as well, and is VERY funny.
>I highly recommend it -- if you're a reasonably open minded person.  Prudes
>will not enjoy it.
>
>	(In Utah it's playing at a "alternate film" theatre, because no
>one else here would carry it.  There's a line in one of the shorts about
>checking with the Mormon church to see if your prospective spouse is 
>already related to you.  The double meaning of the Mormon's geneology
>work vs. their past history of polygamy was even funnier here, and was
>applauded fully by the audience.  :)

I have read, heard, and seen adverts for this film but I have not seen
a theatre in N.H.(New Hampshire) that is showing it.
Can any one send me in the right direction?
Thanks in ADV.
O-e

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From: barry@varian.com (Barry Nesmith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: How Disney characters are remembered (Was: Little Mermaid TV Series???)
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:02:23 GMT
Organization: Varian Chromotography Systems

In article <1992Apr1.213842.16674@risky.ecs.umass.edu> rkaminsk@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Robert D. Kaminsky) writes:

>In article <1992Mar31.133530.13878@onetouch.COM> csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith) writes:
>>Does it seem odd to you that many of Disney's favorite characters are
>>remembered in a state of incompleteness?  For example:
>>
>>The Little Mermaid is remembered as a mermaid instead of human.
>>The Beast is remembered as a beast instead of a prince.
>>Pinoccio is remembered as a puppet instead of a boy.
>>Bambi is remembered as a fawn instead of a deer.

Though not a Disney character, I've always felt that Ebenezer Scrooge got
a bad break. His name has become synonomous with humbug rather than the
generous caring person he showed himself to be.

Don't people ever forgive and forget?     :^)

			Barry Nesmith
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Re: Beast's age
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 19:56:58 GMT

davina@ocf.berkeley.edu (Davina Tung) writes:

>For as much as it's worth, can I throw in a reference here to Robin McKinley's
>novel, _Beauty: A Retelling of the Classic Fairy Tale_?  A rather sappy book, 
>but I seem to remember reading somewhere that the scriptwriter of B&B (can't
>remember her name) cited it as an "influence".  Certainly, the movie's plot is
>a  lot closer to the novel than it is to the original fairy tale...
>Anyway, in McKinley's novel, while the Beast was under enchantment he aged
>one year for every ten that passed.  Personally I think it makes more sense 
>that he be punished for his arrogance at the age of 20 than the age of 10.

Perhaps, but it still does not answer the question as to how his castle
could have been all but forgotten in only ten years.
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From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Eurodisney on CBS
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:35:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux.alberti.702794126
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League

On a related note:  I read a squib in the Minneapolis STAR TRIBUNE today
that said France's National Front party (an extreme, right-wing party led
by Jean-Marie Le Pen) is complaining about the "cultural impurity"
(or somesuch nonsense) of Euro Disneyland...

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From: mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Ok now a Question Name the Thirty Animated Disney Movies
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:13:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <maj1.703438931@Ra.MsState.Edu> maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison) writes:
>Ok, the subject says it all, I'm missing 5 movies of the thirty
>which ones are they
>
>Beauty and the Beast
>The Little Mermaid
>The Rescuers Down Under
>The Rescuers
>Peter Pan
>101 Dalmations
>Lady and the Tramp
>The Jungle Book
>The Sword and The Stone
>Sleeping Beauty
>Cinderella
>Alice In Wonderland
>Song of the South
>Robin Hood
>Fantasia
>Snow White
>Pinnochio
>Bambi
>Oliver and Company
>The Great Mouse Detective
>Dumbo
>The Fox and th Hound
>Ducktales The Movie
>Aristocats
>
>That's 25 of the 30 I want to know which five I'm missing..
>Oh and could some kind soul tell me when all of these were originally released?
>
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 and I don't think Song of the South qualifies...I'm not sure...
 Anyone else remember the rest??

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From: 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie 'Rifa the Insane' Babik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: BatB seasons, Is Mother nature Insane???
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:21:15 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr9.154228.3755@gw.wmich.edu>, 92lemecha@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
...stuff about the weather deleted....
> 
> What is the deal???
> 
> Someone please explain, if you can.
> 
> Bogdan C. Lemecha

Here's my thoughts on the subject.  Someone else, in the discussion about 
the age of the beast, presented a piece of information that may be applied 
here.  They (whoever...I forget their name right now), mentioned that for 
every year that passed in the castle, 10 years passed in the "real world."  
If this were true, the few days that passed in the Beast's castle would 
actually be months on the outside....

Just my theory, mind you, but it seems to make sense!

Lisamarie
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From: jrw@dptg.att.com (Jim Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Premiere of EuroDisney
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:57:17 GMT
Organization: AT&T/NCR, Lincroft, NJ, USA

In article <1992Apr13.152344.18587@b11.ingr.com> mit@b11.ingr.com (Timothy A. Turner) writes:
>I thought the clip of Ronald Reagan reporting on the opening of
>Discoveryland May 17th, 1955 was a highlight of the show. Do you
>think Don Johnson or Pat O'Brien may be president in 25 years?

Umm, err, I dunno.  I tend to think of Don as more First Man material, with
Melanie Griffith as the President.....

Jim :-)
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 10:32:00 CDT
From: <JSMITH@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: new mermaid cd

have any of you heard about the release date for the new little
mermaid record: tales from under the sea (or something like that)?
i thought it was going to be released this month.
jodi benson and others are reprising their roles.


sincerely, james smith---university of north dakota