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From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: the Expos crush the Mets...
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 14:00:55 GMT

In article <dk.703128592@alcor> dk@alcor.concordia.ca (dimitri k) writes:
>Y'know, after all that annoying gloating by obnoxious Mets fans, it
>would have been quite approriate to rub their collective noses in 
>it following the thrashing their team received at the hands of the 
>expos.  It would have been easy, too... reeeaaalll easy.  But, I 
>decided against it because I suspect that at this very moment they 
>are experiencing a profound misery over their team's inept defense 
>(can anyone on that team throw to first from the hole in short?), 
>anemic hitting (most of the lineup is so weak, that Bonilla and 
>HoJo are merely speedbumps to opposing pitchers), and ineffective 
>pitching (was that 21-4 over three games?).  Don't make me laugh, kids...

Those Mets fans can get so annoying.  There are quite a few here and
they kept saying how they were the greatest team and your poor Expos
won't do anything.  Imagine the satisfaction after this weekend.

The Mets are not really that good a team, and despite problems with
the Cardinals this week, I think les Expos can stay in the race for a
while anyway.

ALLEZ LES EXPOS!!!!!!
>
>A not-so-bold prediction: barring major changes to the team's make-up,
>another 5th place finish for the Mets.

I thought 4th, but I'll buy that.  :)
>
>dk


-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS  8-1    Mop up the Yanks, bring on the Slop Sox.
 CANADIENS:  First Round  vs. Hartford Whalers... give us a real team!
From: kvigen@osric.gac.edu (Karl K Vigen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Scheduling???
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:46:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr16.134606.992

In article <-idHv=2s6@cs.psu.edu>  writes:
> Just a question on the scheduling of games in the American League  
this
> year.  So far the teams have mostly played inside there divisions,  
while
> in past years the first part of the season was reserved for the  
other
> division.  What is going on this year or have I missed something  
and this
> is the way the schedules usually run.
> 
> Rob
> 
> Yanks Rule in 92 !!!

Maybe that's the way the Yanks are usually scheduled (with  
inter-divisions first), but as a loyal Twins fan, I've noticed that  
they are normally scheduled against other AL West teams first  
(usually Cal, Oak, and Sea.).  
It is somewhat different for them this year (Mil, ChiSox, Tex.)

K Vigen
Gustavus Adolphus College


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From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI)
Subject: Expos
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:58:49 GMT

Does anyone have any info on this Fletcher guy the Expos have as catcher?
He had a pretty amazing game today, so I'm hoping he's a young prospect
unlike the other 2 catchers they have (not that I mind Carter and the other 
guy).

The Expos will not finish any worse than 3rd this season - mark my words.
They have youth, talent, and pretty decent pitching.

Also, am I the only one that thinks the MLB playoff format sucks?
It's nuts that all but 4 teams are playing 162 games for nothing!
If one team gets off to a good start, the other 5 or 6 teams in the
division have to play the rest of the season knowing it's for nothing.

There's GOT to be a 'happy medium' somewhere between the hockey playoff
format and the MLB one.

I figure if they had the top 2 teams in each division play a best-of-5
series, the owners would make more money, and the fans would have some
exciting 'ball to watch late in the season.

--Dave
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Subject: DeJesus for Young (was My picks)
From: guilford@otago.ac.nz
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:15:55 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <MdruDI_00VpI4BHFAj@andrew.cmu.edu>, al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Amit Likhyani) writes:

> Today's Pitt Press baseball preview picked the Phils and predicted Jose
> Dejesus for Cy young.  The Phillies are trying to go with some youth,

Does this mean Jose DeJesus will win the Cy Young award, or be traded
for the remains of Cy Young?  When you have two interpretations with
equal probability, be more explicit, eh?

Bill Guilford
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From: stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu (Steve Jascourt)
Subject: Re: Walls' '92 Predictions 
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 06:52:52 GMT

In article <3GDHBCH8@cc.swarthmore.edu> wall@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Wall) writes:
>1	BOS		SEA		STL		CIN
>2	TOR		TEX		NYM		LAD
>3	CLE		CHS		PHL		SDP
>4	BAL		MIN		PIT		ATL
>5	MIL		OAK		MON		SFG
>6	DET		KCR		CHC		HOU
>7	NYY		CAL

It looks like some people are using random number generators outputting
numbers 1-6 (NL) or 1-7 (AL) to predict the standings   :)
Either that or else they forgot to put them in order of first to last!

Stephen Jascourt   stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu
From: bolosky@cs.rochester.edu (Bill Bolosky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Interesting Trivia Questions
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:57:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester

In article <167CAE8AA.CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>     (super-picky point)  Eight-inning complete games can't be *wins*.

	(super-super-picky point) Sure they can, it just has to rain.

--Bill
From: zurawski@cbnewse.cb.att.com (lawrence.w.zurawski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Subjective trivia question
Summary: Mickey Cochrane?
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:58:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

> In a previous article, dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate) says:
> 
> >Who would be your pick as the best offensive player to never lead the league
> >in any major offensive category?  (Major off. cats. are BA, OBP, SLG, H, R,
> >RBI, 2B, 3B, HR, BB, SB).  I have somebody in mind, but I'll wait to see who
> >else gets nominated.

I recall looking at Mickey Cochrane's entry in the BB Encyclopedia a few
weeks ago and not seeing any bold print.  So, I'll nominate Mickey.

Larry Zurawski
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From: warrior@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Gary Carter Inc.)
Subject: Re: Oriole Park at Camden Yards
Reply-To: warrior@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:12:53 GMT

In article <53996@hydra.gatech.EDU> russ@prism.gatech.EDU (Russell  
Shackelford) writes:
> In article <1992Apr5.205957.27723@cs.umn.edu>, lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance  
"Cogsworth" Smith) writes:
> > In article <204427@unix.cis.pitt.edu> dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M  
Tate) writes:
> > >In article <1992Apr4.214717.1571@wam.umd.edu> warrior@wam.umd.edu  
writes:
> > >
> > >>5) They no longer serve National Bohemian! 
> > >
> > >They couldn't get a Toxic Waste Disposal permit for the new site.
> > >
> > >(For those of you out there who've never experienced Natty Bo...  
don't.)
> > 
> > Given a choice between Natty Bo and Iron City, I think I'd prefer to 
> > throw myself off of section 205 and hope Kirby might catch me. 
> >
> 
> Oh, come on, Bo wasn't THAT bad.... sort of weak, if anything....
> tasted great with steamed crabs, if I recall correctly....  do they
> still make the stuff?
> 
> russ
Yep!!! they still make the stuff!  I'm a college student and at many  
parties it is present do to it's low cost.(along with Busch, and the  
BEAST!)
From: dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sabo out
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:09:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr08.132243.25673@eve.wright.edu> kstith@eve.wright.edu writes:
>Bad news for the Reds....Sabo is going to be out 2 weeks with his
>sprained ankle. They're probably going to put him on the disabled list

Here's yet another bit of evidence in favor of Sherri Nichols's point from
last year, that aggressive/hustling/fiery/etc. play is not necessarily a good
thing, even on average.  Sabo has established himself as one of the premier
players in the NL in combined offensive and defensive value, and has thrown
all of that away by the unbelievably moronic mechanism of TRYING TO SLIDE INTO
FIRST BASE FOR NO APPARENT REASON.  Real gritty; real dumb.  Lenny Dykstra's
murophilia seems almost tame by comparison...


-- 
          David M. Tate            |"The man who hath no music in himself
     dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu       | Nor is not moved by concord of sweet sound
  A poem should be dumb, / As old  | Is fit for treason, stratagems, and spoils
 medallions to the thumb.-MacLeish | 	Shakespeare, "Merchant of Venice", A.V
From: cj@al@cypress.uucp (Chris Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cardinal Fans Caravan
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:01:34 GMT
	<1992Mar31.184555.19379@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> <101190006@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com>
	<1992Apr <1992Apr7.053753.2657@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
In-reply-to: sfh@po.CWRU.Edu's message of 7 Apr 92 05:37:53 GMT

Where can we order a box of the new road hats?  I can probably sell 200 of
them during an SEC series weekend at Dudy Noble Field, home of the Bulldogs
of Mississippi State University.
--
Chris Jones, Design Manager
Cypress Southeast Design Center, Starkville, Mississippi
cj@cypress.com                          Ph:(601)324-4604
                                       Fax:(601)324-4614
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From: gerry@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Gerry Myerson)
Subject: Re: Trivia: What to the numbers mean...?
Organization: ceNTRe for Number Theory Research
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 06:14:35 GMT

In article <92099.185021GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu>, GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
> Here's a bit of trivia from our college paper...
> 
> Give the significance of the number and the player
> who holds the record.
> 
> 1) .424      Highest BA maybe

Highest this century, anyway---Rogers Hornsby.

> 2) 2.17      lowest era
> 3) 56        \
> 4) 57        /  Is one of these 50's, Hershisers inning streak
> 5) 61
> 6) 190
> 7) 511
> 8) 755       HR career?
> 9) 5511      Hits career?   Pete Rose?

Can't be. Innings pitched (Walter Johnson)?

> 10) 7
> 
> Any suggestions?  Good luck..I post the answers when the next paper
> arrives....at the end of april.....
> 
> grant

GM

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From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: Re: **** Blue Jays sweeps the Tigers ****
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:07:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.134556.5501@lmpsbbs.mot.com> hayosh@mot.com (Tom Hayosh) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.001558.28898@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, mwplau@trillium.waterloo.edu (Michael Lau) writes:
>>    The Jays are 3-0 now and getting a good start. Sorry 'Sox' fan, just
>>  have to rub it in.
>
>How about an apology my way?  :-)

Why should we apologize?  Is it our fault Detroit doesn't have a team
worthy of taking the same field as Toronto?   Because our Jays will
run away with the division.  Those till now winless Red Sox are
already 2 1/2 out and thats as close as they'll get ALL YEAR!!!!

Look out Orioles.  You're next!

GO JAYS!!!!!!!!
>
>Tom Hayosh    hayosh@mot.com
>Go Tigers!


-- 
 Michael Le Houllier           *  John 3:16  * Nov 12, 1991 - Dili      
 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS  3-0  v. Orioles   Friday, Saturday and Sunday
 The Rangers jinx continues.  The year they could win, they strike.
From: lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Cogsworth" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Least Valuable Players (career)
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:50:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr13.035033.23952
Distribution: na
Organization: Little Squids of the Poor

In <1992Apr12.031420.3723@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca ( ) writes:

>In <1992Apr12.014408.6749@cs.umn.edu> lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Cogsworth" Smith) writes:

>>Um, if Alfredo is such a source of talent and leadership why haven't one of
>>these three teams held onto him? If a player is a key part of winning then
>>usually a good organization will try to keep them. 

>Um, because some potential "superstars", Fernandez and rookie of the year
>Walt Weiss came along.  LA has let him go at the end of his career but TO
>has picked him back up.  He had considerably more than a cup of coffee with 
>each team.

Um, you haven't answered the question. So what if you have a potential
"superstar." Until they are a superstar, why would you get rid of a 
key piece of a winning team? If Griffin was important to the team, why not 
keep him on the bench? 

>And of course you could put together a team of nice guys that do finish first
>while you could put together some malcontents that don't but the point is
>that you cannot put together 25 Alfredo Griffins (or any other player) 
>because you cannot quantify his contributions.

Huh? I'm saying "niceness" doesn't count for squat[tm]. I'd prefer to root 
for a nice team, but given the choice between a nice team that stinks 
up the stadia and a World Champion team full of whiners, malcontents,
and other moody players, I'll go with the trouble-makers.

The only time you hear about "team chemistry" is when a team wins. Now
it's slightly possible that "team chemistry" leads to victories, but 
more likely a winning team is a happy team and so you start hearing 
about the wonderful "team chemistry". 

In 1990 the local writers claimed the Twins were too loose. Last year
they were saying that the casual team atmosphere lead to the World Series.
Although you might want to claim "team chemistry" I'd be more likely
to go with career years from key players and an improved pitching staff.
 
>tony fernandez was one of the moodiest sourest players to ever wear the 
>jays uniform.  griffin by contrast was effervescent.

Yet somehow they let this bubbly personality get away. Too bad it's taken
them soooo long to realize their mistake. I think signing a 35 year old 
shortstop says more about the sorry shape of Toronto's shortstops than 
about the talents/personality of Griffin.
-- 
 Lance "Gen Admin" Smith |"This royal stadium of kings, this cover'd field,
   (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)   | This turf of dynasty, this dugout of Kirby,
   The Cat That Walked   | This other Nicholet, major league paradise,
        By Himself       | This dome built by Minnesota for herself"   Kelly II
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs Win!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:39:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.131353.6246@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

>	Its great that Grace hit that homerun, but why does everyone think he
>needs to hit for power? Grace is one of the games best pure hitters, he's
>capable of leading the league in batting average, so why doesn't everyone just
>leave him alone and let him hit .330 with 10 to 15 homeruns?

Because BA does not tell much about how productive a player is.  SLG and OBP
do.  Grace has good OBP but not *great* OBP, so you need some power to make
up for it.  (Remember, he is a first baseman, not a shortstop.)

Besides, he plays in one of the best power-hitting parks in the majors.  If
he doesn't hit for power at Wrigley, that means that he must *really* not have
any power at all.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Charter Member of the Acker-o-phobics Anonymous
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 21:24:12 EDT
From: <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: RULEBOOK TRIVIA 1

With runners on first and second with two outs, the pitcher pitches the ball
into the dirt. It bounces up and is blocked by the catcher, who quickly throws
off his mask. Rather than reach down with his throwing hand, the catcher
takes a swipe at the ball with his mask, picking it up from the ground. What
should the umpire do, if anything? What happens?
From: 190lentz@snowy.qal.berkeley.edu (Greg Lentz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Definition of OPS
Date: 14 Apr 1992 22:51:57 GMT
Organization: University of California Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: snowy.qal.berkeley.edu

I don't read the Bill James Abstract, which is where I assume this stat comes
from, but could someone explain what OPS stands for and how you calculate it?
I see a lot of references to it on this newsgroup.  Please try to keep it down
to less than 10 responses since I'm sure most people don't want to be bothered
by too much response to a rather simple question.

Greg

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From: kirsch@ux.acs.umn.edu (Dave Kirsch)
Subject: Re: A public service request
Keywords: Go out and buy one!
Organization: David Cone's Pull Toys and Assorted Paraphenalia, Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:57:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.012757.13089@cs.umn.edu> lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Kipper
Jihad" Smith) writes:
>Folx, if you haven't done so, wander out and buy a copy of the Monday
>issue of USA Today. (Note: not the Thang.) In the past the baseball
>preview section on opening day has been probably the best 50 cents you can
>spend. Along with the usual preview material, this section includes a
>full day by day schedule, ticket info for all major league teams, info 
>about the stadia like how to get there) and other assorted info that 
>people will ultimately post to the net requesting. 

  I have to echo Lance's sentiment here, but go out and buy it *early* so you
can get home in time to be a pathetic baseball bum and devote your day to the
religion of baseball. 

  Hee hee. I've already gotten the day off, thanks to putting in excessive 
hours lately, and will spend the day doing nothing but watching baseball, 
listening to baseball, thinking about baseball, tossing back a few and
grilling out (now that we have something approaching spring in MN), watching 
some more baseball, contemplating Joe Lundy's maximum CA time, theorizing 
about which pitcher will allow the most cowhide abuse and prognosticating  
about who will do which certain stupid thing this year.  

  Hopefully, I'll doze off about midnight with such a smile on my face that
it'll take plastic surgery to get rid of it.  

  Opening day. It's finally here. 

  Hallelujah! 

-- 
Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch ... of the Warren Newson fan club 
kirsch@ux.acs.umn.edu                       "Blue Jays all the way in '92"  
It's late. Do you know where your kids are? Have you taught them baseball?  
Mann 'E' Lee is making a million dollar$ this year. Need I say more?
From: winstonc@aludra.usc.edu (|)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Trivia: What to the numbers mean...?
Date: 9 Apr 1992 14:18:43 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Apr9.205436.2868@cs.rose-hulman.edu> rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) writes:
 >In article <92099.185021GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu> GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
 >> Here's a bit of trivia from our college paper...
 >> 
 >> Give the significance of the number and the player
 >> who holds the record.
 >> 
 >> 4) 57        /  Is one of these 50's, Hershisers inning streak
 >hmm... dunno right now. I wonder why it looks familiar.
 >(yeah, Hershiser was 59IP, Earl Webb hit 67 doubles....)

Someone else pointed out: Most saves in a single season
Bobby Thigpen

 >Maybe most world series games played in by a player during his career
 >Mickey Mantle (or was it Yogi Berra?)
 >
 >john rickert
 >The Brewers' magic number is down to 162 !
 >My AL East picks: Bos, Tor, Det, Bal, Mil, NY, Cle

Go Sox!


-- 
Winston Chang		    "Truth is beauty, beauty truth;
winstonc@aludra.usc.edu	     That is all ye know on earth,
			     And all ye need to know."
From: al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Amit Likhyani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: why righty-righty match-up?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:12:03 GMT
	<1992Apr14.043602.128216@locus.com>
Distribution: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.baseball: 14-Apr-92 Re: why
righty-righty match.. Chengi Jimmy Kuo@locus.c (873)

> I've also heard (never played baseball, always softball) it's easier
> to pick up the ball out of the pitcher's opposing hand than the near
> hand.  (Confirmation requested, if anyone can offer one.)


Without a doubt.  Even a fastball seems to be coming at you, not tailing
away.  The sight lines are better since you don't seem to be shielded by
the pitcher's body when he throws.  On breaking pitches, you pick up the
ball faster and get a better feel for how and when it is going to break.
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