HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tswift@well.sf.ca.us (Theodore John Swift)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Where is Price Club? (In N. California)
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:51:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


c
The Price Club has metastesized around the San Francisco Bay Area,
where it is headquartered.  I'm not sure, but it may very well be
that there _aren't_ any Price Club stores outside the area, though
there may be similar stores (member-only discount/bulk stores)
that will be distributing the PB100.  If you can't find it in your
phone book, it probably isn't there.
-Ted
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----------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hansel@convex.com (Kevin Hansel)
Subject: Re: Where is Price Club? (yes, but WHERE IS IT?)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:14:46 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <wingo-210792093253@zardoz.apple.com> wingo@apple.com (Tony Wingo) writes:
>In article <oeP1r4S00WBMQ2_WAo@andrew.cmu.edu>, lc0v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Luis
>Abdon Cifuentes) wrote:
>rent number.  I dont know about the second one.
>>  
>> I called the first number. Yes, it is Price Club, but NO, they don't
>> carry Apple computers yet. They carry Dell and Leading Edge. Where did
>> you get your information from?
>> 
>> Luis
>
>According to the 7/13/92 edition of MacWeek, the PB100 4/40 will start
>appearing at the Price Club "in a few weeks".
>
>-tony
>

Powerbooks are already at several Price Clubs.  I personally saw a stack
of about 75 of them last Friday at the Price Club here in Dallas on Central
Expressway.  They were priced at $899 for the PB 100 4/40 *with*
external drive.  

Calling the Price Club may not do you much good.  When I called the 
Dallas location, I got a recording stating that they do not give merchandise
or pricing info over the phone.

I have a friend in CA who just bought the last PowerBook at the Price
Club in Burbank.  It sounds like they are selling fast in some areas...

Good luck!

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Kevin Hansel                           e-mail:  hansel@convex.com
CONVEX Computer Corporation
3000 Waterview Parkway
Richardson, TX 75080                   voice:   (214) 497-4741
From: gary@muvms3.bitnet (gary's news)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Classic Video Power Supply
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:51:12 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

We have a Macintosh Classic on campus, that for the second time this
year has to have the Video power supply replaced.

Is this a common problem in a classic or do we have a lemon that
should be replaced??

Initial cost to repair was $250.00, since it has been less than six
months, Computer Store will replace it for parts only $180.00.

Thanks for any help,
Gary

-- 
Gary Weis
Marshall University
Prichard Hall
Computer Center
Huntington, WV 25755-5320

Bitnet   address is GARY@MARSHALL
Internet address is GARY@MARSHALL.WVNET.EDU

Business Phone Number (304) 696-3205
Fax Number (304) 696-3601
From: mumey@cs.ubc.ca (Brendan Mumey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Radius Rockets: where to buy?
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:19:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada

I'm in the market for either a full blown Radius rocket, or possibly
a Rocket 25i (FPU disabled in '040).  Anyone know of a good place to
order from?  I will post a summary, if responses warrant.

Brendan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: eer1@midway.uchicago.edu(Paul Woods)
Subject:  ? LCII & Mono Monitors needed.
Reply-To: eer1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:04:18 GMT

Hi All,

I need 16" (or close to that) cheap monitors for mac LCII or Mac IIci.  I would  
like to use the LCII instead of the IIci ($$$) but I also need to be able to  
put the LCII on ethernet.  Do any of you have any ideas on suppliers of such  
monitors?  What is the max res that the built in video on an LCII will drive?


Please mail me because I have about 823 unread articles in this news group.  I  
will post a summary

Thanks,

Paul-
eer1@midway.uchicago.edu


--



____________________________________
	Paul R. Woods
     University of Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gnoer1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Geoff Noer)
Subject: Re: educ. prices on IIsi (was Re: ? About Expanding the IIsi)
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:55:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.200626.14203@husc13.harvard.edu>,
jdavis@husc13.harvard.edu writes:
> 
> In article <76575@ut-emx.uucp>, stan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Stan Twiefel) writes:
> > 
> > This is true.  There are no "bundles" involved here.  I've seen the
> > price list we'll be able to buy things for in August, and it's just computers.
..

> Arrghh!!  Now wait just a doggone minute.  Someone from Dartmouth posted
> earlier that these systems will come with the American Heritage Dictionary,
> an Encyclopedia, and some other software pre-installed on the hard drive.
..

I'm almost positive there are bundles involved here--the dictionary and I
think real software too...

------------
Geoffrey J. Noer       gnoer1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Disclaimer: I don't speak for anyone but
myself.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Quadra SPECmarks (well... kinda)
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:23:20 GMT

alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen) writes:

>jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
>>I would suggest that, with the right compilier (such as gcc), the Quadras
>>would fall quite nicely in this catagory...

>>Funny how compilers can _really_ affect "standard" benchmarks yet don't
>>affect SPECmarks that much (as it should be)...

>Um... I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant to say...

>Compiler differences (c89, gcc, cc) will make _noticeable_ changes in SPECs
>for the Quadras. Or any other machine. I guarantee it.

Of course... I guess what I meant to say is that compilers that tune themselves
for such "benchmarks" as dhrystones and the like (and thus show inflated
performance levels for just these benchmarks) don't make such a corresponding
_major_ change in SPECmarks...

No, that didn't come out right either... I guess the basic gist is that
dhrystones and the like aren't a very good indication of SPECmarks simply
because it's easy for a compiler to be tuned for a specific benchmark but
not so easy for an entire suite.

I think that's it :)
-- 
==============================================================================
#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
From: wonko@titan.ucc.umass.edu (not in use)
Subject: MAC LC Video
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:55:25 GMT

  I need to know if a 14" VGA, Non interlaced, 1024x768 monitor will
work with the origonal LC (with the proper cable adaptor). If not What
will work? Please respond Directly to me since I need this info ASAP.

   Jason l. Rahaim
   Wonko@titan.ucc.umass.edu
PS Sorry about the last post Im still new at this.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cyor@watdragon.waterloo.edu ( )
Subject: Putting VRAM from Quadra 950 into NEC 8FX ?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:23:27 GMT

I wonder if one can put the VRAM from Quadra 950 into the 
NEC 8FX (Video card for its color monitor) to turn the 
8-bit card to 24-bit card?

Thanks...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cgarnett@amhux1.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett '87)
Subject: New HEPPII educational prices
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:57:27 GMT
From: danw@mitchell.hac.com (Dan White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac Sound Input/Output Question
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:31:30 GMT
Organization: Society for the Prevention of Paronomastic Defenestration


   Let's repeat that with a reply-able to address (patched news poster)
 
   Regarding the Microphone Input and Speaker Out ports on the back of
 a Classic II and/or an LC II ...
 
   Can anyone out there provide sufficient technical info so that one 
 might hook up an input from a generic audio source (stereo, CD player, etc)
 and/or hook up the sound output to an amplifier / stereo / recording device.
 
   All of the "Authorized Apple Reseller Technical Support" (read: brainless
 slime) in my area (Washington, D.C.) have been of no help.
 
 Thanx in advance.


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                               Dan White
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Sometimes  I  think  the  surest  sign  that  intelligent  life exists
 elsewhere  in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
                                                  Calvin (Bill Waterson)
From: pfile@fennel.berkeley.EDU (Rob Pfile)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac to Sparc Serial connection?
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:43:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: /home/users/pfile/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.berkeley.edu


I have quite a bit of experience with serial connections, but I want to
tap the net.wisdom before whipping out my breakout box and going thr the
serial connection macinations...

Does anyone know the correct connections for hooking a mac to another DTE
device such as a Sparcstation 1? Can I get away with the standard "modem"
connection - transmit crossed to recieve and vice versa, plus ground? Or
will I need a more elaborate null modem type connection?

I have an HP cable that has Mini-DIN8 on one side and DB25 on the other; I
assume that the pins are mapped to make sense in terms of the standard
DB25 pin configuration. If anyone has the correct pin mapping for the DB25
on the mac side to DB25 on the sparc side, or even just the DIN8 to DB25
mapping, I'd love to get it.

email or posts are ok.

thanks

rob pfile
pfile@cs.berkeley.edu
From: cgarnett@amhux1.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett '87)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: educ. prices on IIsi (was Re: ? About Expanding the IIsi)
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:26:06 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA

bsala@weber.ucsd.edu (Brian Sala) writes:
: In article <1992Jul18.183611.1@amherst.edu> chgarnett@amherst.edu writes:
: >In article <BrHF90.8nv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ct54143@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Trimble) writes:
: >> 
: >>[stuff deleted]
: >Of course, the IIsi's a lot cheaper than the IIci. Educational pricing on
: >a IIsi 5/80 is somewhere less than $1400, the IIci still someplace near $3K.
: >
: >-Craig
: 
: where oh where can you get a IIsi 5/80 for under $1400?  even on sale
: (and educ. pricing) our bookstore price for a IIsi is over $2000
: (bundled with keyboard and Apple RGB monitor, $2850 or so).  inquiring
: minds want to know.  is there still time for me to cancel my order to
: MacSource and get one of these miracle deals????
: 
: --brian
: bsala@ucsd.edu
: 
You can get it direct from Apple. As of August 1st, Apple is starting up
its new Fall educational promotion, bundling some non-intrusive software
like an on-line encyclopedia and a dictionary or something like that
with its lowish end processors. These educational deals also come with
some nice price cuts. I am at home right now, without my price list, but
yes, you can get a IIsi 5/80 for around 1400, without monitor and
keyboard. This MIGHT be something only going on with HEPP I and II
dealers, though. Or your bookstore might be hosing you down. 

-Craig
From: stan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Stan Twiefel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: educ. prices on IIsi (was Re: ? About Expanding the IIsi)
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:07:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <6989@lib.tmc.edu> drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:
>The "unofficial" word I've heard is that this year's back-to-school bundles
>aren't bundles - they're deep discounts on Macs _without_ printers. I'd guess
>that they're trying to dump units in anticipation of new models in a few
>months.
>
>David Gutierrez

This is true.  There are no "bundles" involved here.  I've seen the
price list we'll be able to buy things for in August, and it's just computers.
The IIsi is the fastest Mac subject to these price cuts (a 5/80 will go
for $1499 :), and it is not even going to be bundled with a monitor or 
keyboard or anything.  Obviously the Classics, C II's and LC II's will
come with keyboards since they always do.


-- 
=============================================================================
Stan Twiefel	 			    The University of Texas at Austin 
stan@ccwf.cc.utexs.edu			    -=-=-=-=Computer Science=-=-=-=-=
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac sale international/qms 410
From: <LSHBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 09:30:29 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I just called these folks after seeing their ad for a qms 410 for
$1199 in mw.  They say they're sold out.  has anyone dealt with these
guys before?  are they legit or is this some bait and switch deal?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rob@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu (Robert K Shull)
Subject: Re: supra fax modem
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:40:12 GMT

mills@athena.lkg.dec.com (George Mills) writes:

>I can run a dumb 2400 baud modem with no error correction and get no noise
>on the lines 150 miles away. So the lines are not that bad. I've had noisier
>lines within 5 miles.

This does not necessarily mean anything. Line quality (or lack thereof) that
doesn't bother a 2400 bps modem at all can totally wreck a 9600 bps connection.

>So my conclusion is that for long distance (150 miles which is not that far)
>the supra cannot deal with it. For DATA the best it can do is
>2400 with error correction. For FAX it can't do ANYthing yet in distance.

Mine can...

>MY primary purpose it local 9600 data and I think it will be ok for that.
>But I did expect it to be able to better than 2400 at long distance at least
>sometimes. I also expected that it would do FAX at any distance at some
>speed.

This all sounds like either a line problem, or a problem with your long
distance carrier. I've had no problem connecting to various fax machines
(up to about 1000 miles distance) at 9600 bps, and modems (up to about
1500 miles distance) at 14400 bps. No problems with ANY 2400 bps modems
I've tried.
If your modem works locally, but has this much trouble over long distance,
maybe your long distance carrier is giving you poor lines. I've had no
trouble with Sprint...

>Can a $300 modem do coast-to-coast DATA at 9600 or 4800

Yes. Or at least central-US to either coast.

>Can a $300 modem do coast-to-coast FAX at 9600 or other speed.

Yes.

>Can the Supra do the above?

Yes.

>Can a $700 modem do the above?

Yes.

>Can any Modem do the above on non-conditioned lines?

Yes.

	Robert
-- 
Robert K. Shull, Sr. Applications Programmer, Engineering Computer Network
rob@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
Disclaimer: OU can't afford opinions, so these must be mine.
From: Nimtz.1@nd.edu (Rick Nimtz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for a mouse switch
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:22:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Notre Dame, Educational Media

In article <1992Jul25.170101.9658@cs.brown.edu>, dev@cs.brown.edu (Darren
Erik Vengroff) wrote:
> 
> I have an adb mouse whose button switch died recently. One of the
> internal contacts cracked, rendering it useless.  It was easy enough
> to desolder the switch and pull it out, but I haven't been able to
> find a replacement.  Neither Radio Shack nor a larger local parts supplier 
> had this type of switch, and the number stamped on the case, D2F-01L/G,
> meant nothing to either of the sales clerks I talked to.
> 
> Any idea where I can get one of these switches?  Please e-mail.
> 

Try Digi-Key 800-344-4539. Part number CH167-ND. It worked fine in my
mouse.

Richard.D.Nimtz.1@nd.edu
University of Notre Dame
Educational Media Department
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556 USA
+1 219 239 5465
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: zben@ni.umd.edu (Charles B. Cranston)
Subject: Re: decode touch-tone phone with Mac?
Organization: UM Home for the Terminally Analytical
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:56:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.233559.17582@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
Eric Topp <topp@roses.stanford.edu> writes:
 
> ... I'd like to decode the signals generated by a touch-tone phone
> so that the Mac can can recognize which phone buttons were pressed...
 
The Amateur Radio people use touchtones to control repeaters etc.,
so there are a number of touchtone decoder boards available in that
market.  You could interface to a UART and send into the Mac serial
port.  Alternatively, you could build something from the standard
commercial touchtone decoder chips.

You might look at some high-end modems, I think I read something in
the Zoom modem manual about being able to SEND touch-tones so you can
use it as a dialer, but I just don't remember if it could READ
them also.  You might also investigate watson/voice-mail boards.

For a real cheapie you might try schmitt-triggering the audio
into nice square TTL waves, converting to RS232, then going in
through one of the modem control lines on the serial port
(like GPIn if you have one of the macs that implements it).
Then you would have software do zero-crossing-detect timing and
see if you can figure out the touch-tone from the pattern.

The advantage would be cheapness, the disadvantage would be you
would have the mac processor there constantly timing the zero
crossings so the machine would freeze until the process was
completed...
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LaCie hard drives
Date: 22 Jul 1992 23:00:17 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <+jsxqzf@rpi.edu> johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Witt Johnson) writes:
>If anyone has had experience with LaCie external hard drives, your thoughts
and
>recommendations would be appreciated.  I am in the market to purchase a 100M-
>class drive for my IIcx, and have read a lot of literature proclaiming LaCie 
>drives as one of the best available.  I called LaCie, and their 100MB external
>is selling for $469.  Does anyone know of any other reliable (Quantum based!)
>external drives at this size that beat that price?

Don't buy it from LaCie. All that literature you've seen trades on their
formerly excellent reputation, which they are assiduously destroying. Alliance
Peripheral Systems seems to be the favored vendor around here - and they're a
bit cheaper, too. See their ads in the back of any Mac mags for contact info.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Quadra 700 + VRAM+ Apple 16 inch = HUH?!!??!
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:17:25 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <1992Jul23.014041.28851@pcnntp.apple.com> Apgar@Apple.com (Gar) 
writes:

> In article <D2150035.95ppq6@outpost.SF-Bay.org>, 
peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org 
>(Michael Peirce) writes:
> > 
> > Is there any way to get an 8*24 card upgraded to rev B? I don't have
> > 16-bit color from my 8*24 card :-(
> 
> 
> Yes - thru any Apple Dealer that does repairs.

Ummmm...  Are you really sure about this?  The reason the older 8*24 and 
8*24GC cards could not do 16 bits/pixel (bpp) is that the RAM/DAC used on 
those cards simply did not have the internal hardware to support it.  
(There's also the matter of ROM support, but that's moot if you don't have 
the hardware capability in the first place.)  In order to upgrade these 
cards to do 16 bpp, an Apple service dealer would either have to 
completely replace the card, or unsolder the old RAM/DAC and replace it 
with a new, 16-bpp capable one.  It's my understanding that Apple usually 
doesn't do this sort of thing (i.e., unsoldering and replacing individual 
components).

However, I believe the ROM on these cards is socketed, and could be easily 
replaced.  This could get you support for the Apple 16" display since the 
video timing hardware is programmable, but not 16 bpp capability since the 
hardware would still be lacking.  (Could you be confusing 16" monitor 
support with 16 bpp?)

- Dale Adams
  Apple Computer, Inc.
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PowerBook 170 Briefcase??????
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:17:59 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: LANL

Can anyone recommend a case for a PowerBook 170 that can hold acc
and Papers?????

<==================================+==================================>
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  Net Manager/MEE-Division         +    Phone: 505-667-2684
  Los Alamos National Laboratory   +    FAX:   505-665-3911

"The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily
 reflect those of Los Alamos National Laboratory"
From: fredb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Fred Brock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LPS105 vs. Maxtor 120
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:36:33 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

More anecdotal evidence...I've used a Maxtor 120 in the form of a Relax
Technologies Sierra (external power supply) for about 4 months, and used it
heavily. I've run into no problems yet (but it does seem slower than my
earlier Quantum 105 - not an LPS).

ProLine:  <LOGIN>@<HOST>
Internet: <LOGIN>@<HOST><DOMAIN>
UUCP:     crash!<HOST>!<LOGIN>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ogil@quads.uchicago.edu (Brian W. Ogilvie)
Subject: Re: Powerbook Prices, marketing (was Price Club,etc.)
Reply-To: ogil@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Morris Fishbein Center for the History of Science and Medicine
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:50:03 GMT

In article <BrzpMo.G0v@well.sf.ca.us> tswift@well.sf.ca.us (Theodore John Swift) writes:
>  Does anyone have any idea if they're going to cut the price of the 140
>when the new models come in?  I've heard from an unreliable source that
>the next machines will be around the 170 in performance (higher, probably),
>and that the price on the 170 would drop, but that the 140 would probably
>stay near it's present price.  I'm trying to decide whether to hold out for
>that larger, heavier 140 rather than try to make do and buy a 100...

The Campus Computer Store at the University of Chicago just dropped
their price on the PowerBook 140 by about $450.  The old price for a
4/40 was $2,370; the new price is $1915, which is what they were
selling the PB 100 (4/40 with external floppy) for a month ago.  I
don't know how these prices compare with the non-academic pricing.
-- 
Brian W. Ogilvie           DISCLAIMER: You think I have time to
b-ogilvie@uchicago.edu       think about everything I post?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc