From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Black GSDs (Defending Myself AGAIN!)
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:40:18 GMT
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab

In article <14981@mindlink.bc.ca>, Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca
(Valaria Vorlop) writes:
> 
|> I would think twice about getting a dog from this breeder, even
|> though it
|> may be hard considering you've already named him and everything. He
|> has
|> poor conformation, but they suggest you should use him to make money
|> as a
|> stud? If they practice what they preach, they are doing things WRONG.
|> Have
|> their dogs been screened for hip dysplasia and other hereditary
|> problems
|> common in GSD's?

Okay, folks...I've  had enough folks who are all too happy to believe these 
folks are bad breeders just because they merely mentioned using him as 
stud and he isn't "show quality".  I don't know exactly what his
disqualification
as far as "show quality" is, perhaps, merely because he is going to be a
BIG
dog (they do have height requirements, no?) or maybe he's a little
cowhocked
(as some VERY nice person pointed out earlier) or something like that. 
We've
checked them out, they do not just breed dogs because of color. In fact,
they
don't even have a pure black dog on the premises..the sire was black
with
silver socks. The dam was black and tan, which is what most of the other
dogs
were.  Most of their dogs are shipped off to organizations similar to
Seeing Eye, Hearing Ear, the Police, etc. They breed for tempermant and
intelligence. Some of the dogs had even been taught sign language
(probably
for Hearing Ear sorts), another had just become a working drug sniffer.
The parents are BOTH OFA certified, his hips are guarenteed, his health
is
guarenteed. They had probably around 12 dogs there and they take them
to the obedience ring. I am VERY confident that I am getting a good dog
and
just because they mention to me that a black stud is a possibility
doesn't mean
that's what they do!!!

Come on folks...I think some of you are just all too happy to jump on the
"Bad Breeder" bandwagon here....

Can't folks overlook SMALL conformation defects and still breed good dogs
for OTHER things besides the conformation ring??? I think SOME dogs with
perfect conformation aren't perfect in other ways, like intelligence or
temperment. I once met a champion Lab who was mean...I MEAN VICIOUS..
yet he was a champion and no matter what his temperment he was going
to be bred because his conformation was "perfect" ....I don't know how 
they got him to behave in the ring...I met him at his home on a very
friendly basis and he nearly bit my hand off...with his owners there
and everything!!!!!!

So just because MY dog isn't perfect for the conformation ring doesn't mean
that he isn't good in OTHER ways... and above all he's going to make me 
one hell of a good friend. WHICH IS ALL I CARE ABOUT!!!!

Kay Schlumpf & Crew 

 
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      Kay Schlumpf     University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign,  MRLCFC
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Wife to Peter, the Patient; Mommy to Baeki, the Happy Cocker Spaniel; 
Owned by Pixel, the Cuddly Siamese and Dante, the Quilter's Cat. Also
Quilter, Collector of Model Horses, and Horse Fiend! 
             All opinions are my own...mine mine mine, ALL MINE!
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