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From: sracer@cecelia.media.mit.edu (Go Speed Racer (Andy Hong))
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Snowboarding Rag Addresses
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:43:46 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Music Group

Well, normally, I'd just email this kinda thang... but it's not like we've
got heckloads of traffic in this newsgroup.  So for the sake of wasting
almost everyone else's time, compute power, and disk space...

For the guy who wanted the addresses... here they are:

	_Transworld Snowboarding_
	Subscription Department
	PO Box 3774
	Escondido, CA 92033
	(619) 745-2809

A one year subscription (only 7 measly issues) is $13.95.  Big rip.

For the "lesser" rag (but has more photos per issue--only because the guys
who write for the rag think a 20-word article is a sweat):

	_Snowboarder_
	33046 Calle Aviador
	San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675

For subscription info, call (800) 955-9120.  It's $11.95 for a one year
thang (only 5 scrawny (not much more than a centerfold poster with a cover
on around it) issues).  Even bigger rip.

--andy
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: Skateboarding...
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:45:33 GMT



I just back into skating after taking a 3 month break due to toe
breakage...  Has anyone heard of the term sketchy??? ahha  MY
TRUCKS ARE TOO LOOSE! hahahah...


-- 
6o25@sdf.lonestar.org                            ..!uunet!convex!egsner!sdf!6o25
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:43:42 -0400 
From: "John D. Williams" <jwaa+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: freestylers

Hello,

My name is John D. Williams and I am a student at Carnegie Mellon, which has
a large population of computer geeks and a minute population of skaters.  I
happen to fall into both catagories.  It is inspiring to hear someone talk
about freestyle.  I love freestyling, I have an old powell "Mullen", 
walker "Tim Morris", and an World Industries "Mullen".  I love freestyling, 
albiet I wish that I was much better.  I was wondering if I could trouble 
you, or other freestylers for videos of Pro or Am freestyle footage.  I'm
also looking for old NSA contests "Duel at Diablo", "Eastside street attack"
etc. etc. that have freestyle footage.  Hey!! If you have footage of Mullen
from a Powell, SMA, or Swatch demo I'd appreciate that too.  I would be glad
to trade or purchase any such flicks.  Thanks in advance
--
*******************************************************************************
* John D. Williams                    * "Pretty Kitty Litter, are you kidding,*
* jwaa@andrew.cmu.edu        : SCHOOL * I love the disgusting stuff"-Ren Hoek *
* williams@prca.usbm-ccn.gov : WORK   * TODD RUNDGREN & THE VIDEO TOASTER '92 *
* "Only Amiga makes it possible, but without talent you'd still be hosed!!"   *
*******************************************************************************
* All views expressed are mine, all mine! and are not necesarilly the ones    *
*  experessed by Carnegie Mellon University or the U.S. Bureau of Mines..     *
*******************************************************************************
peace!
From: mac9167@tamsun.tamu.edu (Matthew Allen Costanza)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: C. H. Skateboard for sale.
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:17:51 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

************************* FOR SALE ************************************

I have a Christian Hosoi HAMMERHEAD skateboard (ramp version) for sale.  It has
the following features:

	- Gullwing Pro II trucks

	- Slimeball wheels (95)

	- Vision nosebone, tailbone, rails, and riser pads.

	- Custom decals & grip tape.


The board is mostly yellow with the red and black design.  The board is in 
excellent condition.  I have only used it three times and I just don't do 
much skateboarding at school.  I am asking $90.00 or BEST reasonable offer.
Buyer pays shipping.  Means of shipping is UPS COD. I will pay the COD fee.
If you are intrested or have questions, please e-mail me.
From: jg@cl.cam.ac.uk (Jim Grundy)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: A picture of ME (backside air)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:09:15 GMT
Reply-To: jg@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: Cambridge Hardware Verification Group

In article <1992Apr13.170319.19954@ecf.toronto.edu>,
steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos) writes:
|> 
|> Does everyone out there with a GIF viewer also have access to a JPEG
|> viewer? The JPEG files are a lot smaller, so they are easier to post
|> (I don't have to make multiple-part posts).
|> Unless I get a lot of complaints, my next post will be a JPEG.
|> 
|> To decode this image, chop it off at the cut marks, save the result
|> in a file, and run that file through uudecode. This should give you
|> a GIF file named steve.backside.gif, that is 42577 bytes long.

I dont have access to JPEG, but compress/uncompress seem fairly universal,
why not compress these images before uuencodeing?

Jim

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Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: sracer@cecelia.media.mit.edu (Go Speed Racer (Andy Hong))
Subject: Re: SnowBoarding
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Music Group
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:15:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.194052.13584@cs.rose-hulman.edu> snyderre@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Robert E. Snyder) writes:

   Hey guys, what's up?  Living here in the mid-west, SnowBoarding doesn't  
   seem to be extremely popular.  I however anyway, after boarding several  

Wow, either last month's _Transworld Snowboarding_ or _Snowboarder
Magazine_ had an article about snowboarding in the flatlands of the
midwest... apparently, alot of hot pros came out of the midwest.

   question is, Does anyone have the address of TransWorld SnowBoarding?  I  

I'll bring it in tomorrow if I remember.

I just got back from three days of spring snowboarding in Tahoe.  It was
like riding on a giant-size Slurpee.  Put more wear-and-tear on my board
in three days than I have in the two years I've owned it.  Pine cones
embedded in slush do wonders to p-tex.

BTW, the hip snowboarding trick these days is "railsliding" staircase
handrails.  Both snowboarding rags feature photos of snowboarders on
handrails.  One of the photos doesn't even have snow in it.  Silly.

--andy
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: sracer@cecelia.media.mit.edu (Go Speed Racer! (Andy Hong))
Subject: Re: STANFORD kills skateboarding
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Music Group
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:48:48 GMT

An example of some of the discussion that went on regarding the banning of
skateboarding at Stanford follows below.

If you're at a school that hasn't already banned skateboarding on
campus... maybe you should think about getting together a school-sponsored
student activity.  An official group will probably have a better chance of
having its voice heard in the possible (and maybe even probable) case that
your school will outlaw skateboarding.

--andy  (proud member of SKAMIT, an official student organization)


-----
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 22:33:32 -0700
From: Anton Schwartz <schwartz@flamingo.Stanford.EDU>
To: espinosa@cs.columbia.edu
Subject: More on skateboarding
Reply-To: schwartz@cs.stanford.edu (Anton Schwartz)

This skateboarding thing is really getting absurd.  Here's the latest
instance.  (Throw it out if you have better things to do...)  Levoy is
the new graphics faculty person here.

From: Daniel Adam Blumenthal <danblum@CS.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: skateboarding on campus
To: levoy@blueridge.stanford.edu (Marc Levoy)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 21:52:37 PDT
Cc: csdlist@cs.stanford.edu
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

on marc levoy's letter:

> I support a ban on skateboarding for the following reasons:
> 	1.  They're noisy, especially in the quadrangle arcade.

i think that YOU are noisy.  that's too bad for me.  i don't think that
you should be banned from speaking because I find you annoying.

> 	2.  They make walking or bicycling in front of the quadrangle
> 	    dangerous, especially at dusk.

have you ever ridden a bike or walked past the clock tower at 9:55, 10:55,
or 11:55 AM after classes get out?  i think that we should ban bikes, because
they are OBVIOUSLY dangerous.  oh, and how many times have you actually
gotten into an accident with skateboarders?  how many times have you been 
in car crashes?  i think we should ban cars.

> 	3.  They detract from the "image" of Stanford seen by first-time
> 	    visitors.  (I expect to take flack on this one.)

this point is so petty i won't reply to it.

i think that stuart cheshire's point (a previous email) is absolutely correct.
(stuart - please correct me if i misrepresent you)  to wit:  what is the real
issue here?  it annoys you, you don't do it, and so you seek to ban it.
are they doing anything wrong?  instead of immediately distrusting
those who do things that we don't, we should be wary of people who try to
ban things, especially on the basis that they are "annoying" or "noisy".
there are many things i don't do (including skateboarding), but i don't see
that as a reason to prohibit other people from enjoying themselves.

						dan

p.s. i don't mean to make this a personal attack on marc levoy, but i feel
very strongly that he is wrong on this point.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: netwise@teal.csn.org (Netwise Inc)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Stuff Re: Skateboards not welcome at U of M - and they don't care
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:56:30 GMT
Organization: Netwise, Inc.

In article <1992Apr12.170741.11281@athena.mit.edu> byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller) writes:
>	Nothing, except that you can PICK UP a skateboard and CARRY IT
>if population gets dense and you don't want to hurt anyone.
>Puss-skates (heh..I like that) are tied/strapped to your feet, so
>you're less likely to take 'em off to avoid running into trouble.  In
>my eyes, boards are a much more viable and safe transportation
>alternative to blades.  But guess what?  Puss-skates are in, they're
>hip, they're cool, they're hyped everywhere in print and on TV, they
>are the NEW FITNESS THING.  Skateboarding, on the other hand, is only
>a way of life to the lowest of the low.  

First, I'm fairly certain that an ever-increasing popularity for
"puss-skating," with no more regard for the safety and comfort of the rest of
the population will rectify this inequality within the next 2 years.

Second, there are things that can allow skates to not be rolling in places
where rolling isn't appropriate. In-line skate guards should soon be appearing
on the market; one will be able to immobilize all wheels in about 10 seconds.
Rollerblade will be introducing the MetroBlade in the fall; this is a
Merrill-like shoe with an easily-removable outside shell. Other manufacturers
should be making similar products...

>Gotta say, it pisses me off to no end.

If you want to really be pissed off, compare skateboarding to automobile
travel. What a wasteful, absurd way of getting around. This should piss you
off far more than bicycling, walking, or even "puss-skating."

>				--Halloween Jack.

Phil Earnhardt			pae@netwise.com
Netwise, Inc.			Boulder, CO  (303) 442-8280
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: sracer@cecelia.media.mit.edu (Go Speed Racer! (Andy Hong))
Subject: Re: STANFORD kills skateboarding
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Music Group
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:52:59 GMT

In article <jfvbbh4@zuni.esd.sgi.com> jeffs@soul.esd.sgi.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

   Standford University has outlawed skateboarding.  I used to
   ride there sometimes 2 years ago.  Apparently it turned into


Yup.  Back when I lived in Palo Alto... the Stanford campus was my
favorite place to skate.  But back then (4 summers ago), I never saw
anyone else skating (except as a means of transportation).

--andy
From: ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: re:hello
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:44:02 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Apr13.082900.21351@nuchat.sccsi.com> dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest) writes:
>In article <12133@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu writes:
>
> Actually, there are a few that I never saw done freestyle wise. If you 
> want me to go into trick specifics, I will, but the riders would be Laban,
> Markovich, and Armando Barajas.
> 
Hm...I'm sure you're right. Though to be fair, there were alot of freestyle
(oh, the hell with "freestyle"), there were alot of TRICKS that were done
awhile ago that never were seen or talked about that will probably not 
be ever done again (at least by the people who made it up.) There were
so many "Happy Birthday" tricks that were made only one or two times
(rolling backwards 2 1/2 ollie flip to 50/50 truck stand to rail, stuff
like that).  Though I admit, some of the best street skaters have wired
tricks that a couple of years ago I would have thought would be happy
birthday tricks. amazing. As the standards get higher, so does the skating,
and vice versa. It seems we have gotten to the "anything is possible" stage.

>
> Hey now... Andres is a good friend of mine, and I've skated with both Daryl
> and Matt. Andre has always been one of my favourite skaters. In fact, we
>
If you see Andre or talk to him on the phone, tell him clif duhn says hello!

> Daryl Grogan went full size too, and skated for Ground Effect for a while. 
> He now skates for World Industries.. if I'm not confusing him with another
> ex Ground Effect skater (alot of whom were ex freestyle). Matt Wood also 
> skated for WI, and may still, I'm not sure. Matt also ate the worm and puked
> in "Rubbish Heap".
>
Daryl used to send me Ground Effect boards when his company was just 
starting, even though I was still on Santa Cruz. He actually owned Ground
Effect. Dis his video ever get made? I'm VERY glad that he's on World right
now, if that's true. Rodney must really appreciate his skating.
Matt Wood (or "Woodie") is a rad vert skater as well. Unfortunately, Mike 
tells me that he doesnt skate much nowadays, and has a girlfriend and is
kind of a fashion monger/rock star type. (Say it aint true Matt!!)
Incidentally, the one who eats the worm in Rubbish Heap is definitely
NOT Woodie. It is Chris Branagh's little brother who eats it.

> I accidentally deleted it, but that Tony Hawk comment (from Transworld)
> was the STUPIDEST thing I've heard in a long time.
> 
I agree.

oh well, off to go skating on a beautiful sunny day. (of course I still
enjoy it!)
-clif
.

B
B




Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (???)
Subject: Re: hello
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:12:55 GMT


>dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest) writes:

>I see that happens alot, atleast to myself, is when I'm at the park
> skating street and then I'll go skate vert and my friends will say that they
> really want to learn how to skate vert yet always fast forward vert parts in
> videos. They always scream at me for not whizzing by Frazier, Boyle, Lasek,
> etc..  Maybe you gotta skate it to understand, they always say it's boring
> to watch.

I have to agree with you, actually.  I never used to like the vert segments
in videoes until I actually tried skating vert.  In just a day my appreciation
for it went up like fifty fold.

I would say you *do* have to try it to appreciate it.

Joe G.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (???)
Subject: freestylers
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:41:26 GMT

from an earlier letter:

>PRESSURE FLIP.  Jeremy Ramey, Sean Coons, Daryl Grogan, me, Mike Kinney,
>Andres Comacho, Robert Rodrigues, Tim Waldusky, Matt Wood. Are any of these
>names familiar? I thought not. Its too bad, but I dont even think any of
>these people skate anymore. Their sponsors all dropped them, they got

Hey!  I've heard of Camacho, Rodrigues, and Matt Wood.

But you've left out some of the freestylers that are/were a little more
widely known like: Rodney Mullen, Cameron Martin, Per Welinder, Kevin Harris,
Don Brown, Primo and Diane Desiderio, Joe Humeres, and many others.

Not only are freestyle tricks being done on street nowadays, they are
starting to be done on *vert*.  I nearly gagged when I saw Bucky's
Ollie impossible tail grab nose smash to revert on the big ramp, and
that was over a year and a half ago.  I just heard he was doing backside
air heelflips to late shove.

I am really a fan of freestyle also (even though I virtually never do it), but 
there's no need to be bitter just because it is spilling over into other
regions of skateboarding. Skating has been growing more technical since day
one, and the street/freestyle trend has been growing for years.  

It's only natural that the rather limited street skating expand that
way.  There is only so much fun to kickturning, downhilling, and acid
dropping.  If you think that pressure-flip varials are not new because
you were doing them 3 years ago, then wait until you see some 12 year
old do one fakie down 12 stairs.  It might not be a new trick, but it's
being done in a new environment.

Freestylers are still pushing the edge.  Just look at Rodney.  He is now
doing 720 shoves to nose wheelie, nollie impossible to f/s late shove, b/s 
360 ollie impossible to finger-flip, and who the hell even knows what else.

Personally, with my ankle, I am happy to land a kickflip ollie every once 
in a while, but whatever. . . as long as you keep skating.

Later,
Joe G.

(who kinda now wishes he had been
included in that MTV skate shoot
rather than running all over Boston
on errands.)
From: ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: hello
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:30:45 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Apr13.171255.21606@athena.mit.edu> juggle@athena.mit.edu (???) writes:
>I have to agree with you, actually.  I never used to like the vert segments
>in videoes until I actually tried skating vert.  In just a day my appreciation
>for it went up like fifty fold.
>
>I would say you *do* have to try it to appreciate it.
>
I agree. Its much easier to "fake" being a good streetskater than it is
on vert. It separates the men from the boys. Ive still got hipper scars
from learning to drop in on a puny 8 1/2 foot half four years ago. i cant
even imagine dropping into a 10 or 12 footer. I love the feeling of skating
on big ramps though. Seems that vert is more fun to do than it is to watch,
and the opposite is true for street and freestyle.
-clif
From: kato@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Bryan Kato)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: hello
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:39:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.kato.703391980

In <12227@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu writes:

>I'd be able to spot woodie in a sea of skaters in about 5 seconds, and he
>is not the worm eater. Ive hung out with him alot atfer contests and believe
>me he does some odd and depraved things, but he doesnt eat worms (at least
>not on video :) )

Does he swallow them whole - not all chewed up?

-
B
-
From: ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: re:hello
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:37:40 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Apr14.175409.17380@nuchat.sccsi.com> dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest) writes:
>
> Ha... Randy COlvin said it was Matt a looong time ago, and I just never 
> doubted his word.

I'd be able to spot woodie in a sea of skaters in about 5 seconds, and he
is not the worm eater. Ive hung out with him alot atfer contests and believe
me he does some odd and depraved things, but he doesnt eat worms (at least
not on video :) )
-clif

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: A picture of ME (backside air)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:12:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.180915.9277@cl.cam.ac.uk> jg@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.170319.19954@ecf.toronto.edu>,
>steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos) writes:
>|> 
>|> Does everyone out there with a GIF viewer also have access to a JPEG
>|> viewer? The JPEG files are a lot smaller, so they are easier to post
>|> (I don't have to make multiple-part posts).
>|> Unless I get a lot of complaints, my next post will be a JPEG.
>
>I dont have access to JPEG, but compress/uncompress seem fairly universal,
>why not compress these images before uuencodeing?

GIF images have compression built into them, so the compress program has
little effect.

Both 'xli' and 'xv' support JPEG now, you can ftp them from export.lcs.mit.edu.
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
From: netwise@teal.csn.org (Netwise Inc)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Stuff Re: Skateboards not welcome at U of M - and they don't care
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:23:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: csn.1992Apr14.072341.23210
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <STEVEV.92Apr13170947@miser.uoregon.edu> stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) writes:
>Phil!  You're back!

Never went away. And you are still bringing a unique interpretation to
postings.

>In article <1992Apr13.165630.28122@csn.org> netwise@teal.csn.org
>(Netwise Inc) writes:
>If some of the inline skaters I see around don't get a little
>more civil, then I can hardly wait for the banning to start.

You have my sympathy. Those people don't realize how badly they're
representing our activity.

There are no bad skates or skateboards. There are only some bad skaters.

>>Second, there are things that can allow skates to not be rolling in places
>>where rolling isn't appropriate. In-line skate guards should soon be
>>appearing on the market; one will be able to immobilize all wheels in about
>>10 seconds.
>
>I find the news of this "in-line skate guard" most disturbing [...]

I think you've completely misinterpreted what I was talking about.

Skate guards are things you put on your skates. They're not something in the
ground that stops you rolling within 10 seconds; they're something you can
easily put on within 10 seconds. You can quickly shift from a skating gait to
a walking gait.

We ain't talking about rumble ribs in the pavement.

>Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu

--phil
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest)
Subject: Re: Tom Boyle (he won! & a gif)
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:24:23 GMT


 Tom Boyle totally deserves it, he's a ruler. He also does delay shove-its
 in the Next video. Thomas Morgan is rad too.

 Des Delay shove-its seem to be the new happening thing on vert.. at least for 
 some of the people around here and myself. I've yet to see anyone do them
 backside... well, at least over the coping. I can do them under, to fakie,
 but anything realistic turns into a slam fest. Chris Livingston (as well as
 others I'm sure) does them to nose blunt, and I've seen a few landings of 
 frontside delay shove-it to disaster, over the channel also.
From: ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: hello
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:33:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucdavis.12112
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

why is this newsgroup so dead as of late? is anyone out there. 
oh well, I would only assume that youre all out skating all the time :)
-clif
From: v125njuc@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DA BIG FAT FUNKY BUTT-GROOVE)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: re:re:hello
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I think I would call that a frontside jo-spin (i don't know
how to spell that).
rich
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