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From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: Re: MS does build hardware
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:36:32 GMT

Didn't Microsoft has a serial device sharing gadget for the Mac back in 85 or
86? I swear I saw such an item in my local Apple dealer then. It was for the
128K Mac or Fat Mac?
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From: triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SpeedyFinder7 control panel
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:31:02 GMT
Organization: The University at Buffalo
Originator: triantos@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu


In article <79470@ut-emx.uucp> mlbizer@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Marc Bizer) writes:

[Marc talks about the merits of SpeedyFinder7, which I will agree with 100%.
He then asks: ]
   The question I have is this: can anyone supply his e-mail
   address? He can be reached on various Australian BBSes and on AppleLink
   (AUST0116), but I need an INTERNET address.

To reach people at applelink, you can mail to <user>@applilink.apple.com, and
so Victor TAN would be aust0116@applelink.apple.com...

-Nick
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From: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu (Lowell B. Reiter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: hebrew font
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:07:11 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

Does any one know where I can get hebrew fonts in adobce or truetype?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ray@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov (Jeff Ray)
Subject: open 'About...' at startup?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: NASA (Dryden)/Woodside Summit
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:16:59 GMT

Some time ago someone posted (and I'm not even sure to which group) a
little app that used AppleEvents to open the "About This Macintosh..."
box, then quit.  The intent was to drop it into the Startup Items
folder, so the box would open at startup.

Unfortunately, I neglected to grab it when it was available, expecting
it to show up at Sumex later.  No such luck.  Could someone please
email it to me?  I'd be ever so thankful.

Jeff Ray <ray@skipper.dfrf.nasa.gov>
Woodside/NASA Dryden
Irritant-at-Large
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Tom Thatcher)
Subject: Re: empty folders that can't be deleted
Reply-To: smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:06:59 GMT

You have to hold down the option button prior to and while you drag the
folders into the trash, not just when you select "empty trash"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joel E Callan)
Subject: Re: Can't load Sys 7 tune-up--why?
Originator: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:36:59 GMT

From article <1992Sep6.081524.14038@news.Hawaii.Edu>, by teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima):
> 
> I got the system 7 tune-up files from ftp apple.com, and unbinhexed,
> etc. etc. and now have all the pertinent files on a floppy I have
> named "System 7 Tune-Up." When I follow the directions and try to
> install from the floppy, I get a window that said something like "The
> name of this disk is correct but this is not the right disk. Please
> insert "System 7 Tune-Up" disk to continue" or something like that. I
> made sure the floppy actually said exactly what it should've said. It
> still won't work. What am I doing wrong? I don't want to reload
> everything onto my hard drive until I've tuned up.
> 
> Thanks in advance! :)
> 
> Aloha--
> 
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Well, it seems you didn't dl the System 7 tune-up.image file from
bric-a-brac (also known as ftp.apple.com). If you ftp to ftp.apple.com and
get the tune-up.image file, then just use the Disk Copy from the system 7
utilities, you will be able to load the tune-up onto a disk (and it will
work for sure).

I downloaded the system-7-tuneup.hqx from ftp.apple.com when it was first
released, but then apple released the .image file in it's place (same thing,
but it ensures you get the entire contents).

I suggest you dl the file again, or visit your local Apple dealer and get it
for free, or just copy it from a friend (use Disk Copy 4.2), whichever is
easier.

Be sure to read the "Read Me" files which accompany the installer.

Joel Callan  callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: ms window emulator
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 09:27:15 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 9 Sep 92 09:30:23 GMT

In article <zaphod-040992161026@gregt.winona.msus.edu> Gregory Talmo,
zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu writes:
>> Is there such a thing as ms window emulator on the mac?  I saw ads
about
>> ms dos emulator for the mac. Is it possible to run ms window on top of
ms
>> dos emulator? I imagine it would be extremely sluggish if it works
that 
>> way.  Does it work?  How sluggish?

An MS Windows emulator for the Mac has been posted to
sumex-aim.stanford.edu. It's available by anonymous ftp filed as:

/info-mac/game/window-3.hqx

It is not sluggish at all, and it works about as well as the real Windows
in my experience. You do get an error message or crash now and then.

Give it a try--but don't expect too much. Note the directory in which it
is filed....

Jeff
From: collin@angelo.amd.com (Collin K. Ong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: min-sys installer
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:30:21 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

I just ran the min-sys installer on my PB100 and saw absolutely no change
on the disk space or the system memory usage?  What's up?

collin@brahms.amd.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: empty folders that can't be deleted
From: marc@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Marc Matteo)
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:42:06 PDT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

You have the "folder for hell" problem.  There's an app om sumex-aim that'll
take care of that.  It's called something like "hellfolderfix".

Marc

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From: crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Chris Kunselman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: RE: Re: My DA's won't work under (Sys 7) Multifinder...
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:16:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Hi, Does anybody have this problem or a similar problem with System 7.01? 
I'm getting an error -97 when trying to use the Calculator,Alarm
Clock,NotePad, Puzzle, and Scrapbook.  Control panels, Chooser, and Keypad
all work fine.

I'm installing FileGuard protection software onto the hard disk to protect
the System folder from being changed.  I noticed it after installing
FileGuard, but we also had this error -97 on another System 7 computer that
didn't have FileGuard.

In article <1992Sep7.063332.31488@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, chai@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Ian
Chai) wrote:
> 
> mcginnis-john@CS.YALE.EDU (John McGinnis) writes:
> >It, in conjuction with the Print Monitor, allows background printing to a
> >laserwriter.  Hence the name...
> 
> Ah, thanks! (No wonder I didn't know what it does... I'm still running
> an Imagewriter 8-)

Thanks for your help,

Chris Kunselman
crk5@vms.cis.pitt.edu
From: grobbins@Apple.COM (Grobbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Keyboard menu (Q)
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:30:57 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Sep7.223656.25566@news.ysu.edu> ag239@yfn.ysu.edu (Christian Horcel) writes:
>	Could some one please tell me how to add the little menu right to the
>help menu that shows the current keyboard layout being used? I have that in 
>my mac but I forgot how I did it!! (my friend needs it..) 

With ResEdit 2.1.1, flip the Always Show Keybd Icon bit of the System
file's 'itlc' resource.

>	One more thing, after the menu is in place, how can I change the icon
>of the keyboard (the flag)?

With the mouse, or by some obscure keyboard combination like command-space
or something similar.

Grobbins         grobbins@apple.com

Usual disclaimers apply.
From: ra00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Agustin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: RE-Win/NT
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:29:08 GMT
	<Bu7LH9.4ML@acsu.buffalo.edu>
	<keev_bC00WB78Xif8m@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 07-Sep-92 in Re: RE-Win/NT                
user Faisal Nameer Jawdat@and writes:
>And one final point - the current specs for NT seem to be at least:
>486/33
>8 megs ram
>100 meg hd
> 
>but will probably be much higher to be usefull when the things come
>out
>486/50 EISA
>16 megs ram
>400 meg disk seem more ball park, when you consider all the
>capabilites promised for the thing (namely all the networking foo,
>windows hooks, dos hooks, etc...)

If anyone is interested, here are promised (summarized) features of the
upcoming Windows NT:

    -Full compatibility with MS-DOS and Windows applications on both Intel
     and MIPS based systems

    -Interface almost identical to Windows 3.1

    -Support for OS/2 server and POSIX-compliant applications

    -32 bit architecture/32 bit flat memory model

    -Multiple threads of execution/Preemptive Multitasking

    -Symmetric multiprocessing support (more CPU's in PC, more power)

    -Runs on multiple platforms (Intel 386 and higher, MIPS R3000 & R4000)

    -Built in file sharing and print sharing capabilities

    -Support for development of distributed applications/interprocess
     communication

    -Ability to set up and manage networks/systems with the seperate licensing
     of the Microsoft LAN Manager (extra cost, sort of like Appleshare 3.0)

    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS (Copied directly from Microsoft Flyer)

           "The Microsoft Windows NT operating system runs on Intel 80386 and
        higher systems with a recommended configuration of 8 MB of RAM and
        100 MB or more of disk space, or on similaraly configured RISC-based
        systems."

    Kinda reminds me of Unix, does it not? (it could be just me, I don't
know)  Not the sort of stuff your average PC owner (read _not_ power
user/programmer) would be able to run realistically and practically on
his or her machine without significant upgrade and cost.  I think I'd be
safe also to assume that one would need at least 486/33 and 8 MB of RAM
to do really be able to do anything in this OS.  I'd go as far to
predict that taking advantage of all the capabilities of NT on a 386
would be like running Windows on an XT or 286 and running System 7 on a
Mac Plus or Classic.

Robert
From: mlbizer@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Marc Bizer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: SpeedyFinder7
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:27:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
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X-XXMessage-ID: <A6D4D1E9EA02B96E@slip-10.ots.utexas.edu>
X-XXDate: Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:20:25 GMT

Dear Finder Hackers,
	I forgot to add that SpeedyFinder7's greatest feature is that it makes
its Fiinder changes to memory at startup, relieving us of having to make
dangerous changes with ResEdit. The copy of your Finder on disk always
remains pristine.
	---Marc Bizer
From: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au (Martin Levins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Anyone used SweetJam?
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:52:42 GMT

Sorry if this is not the right newsgroup, but has anyone used SweetJam?

Most of the advertising that I've seen about this doesn't really
describe how it works.

replies to author, I will summarise if required



Martin Levins                               Internet: mlevins@metz.une.edu.au
Director of Computing                                     Applelink: AUST0479
The Armidale School                                      Phone: +61.67.738219
Australia                                                  Fax: +61.67.738230
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: chang hsu liu <cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: sad mac code!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 19:17:41 GMT



Dear netters,
What does the sad mac code
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 F
0 0 0 0 0 0 2 8
mean when starting up the Mac?

Is it a hardware or software problem? Is there a documentation recording
the meanings of all codes?

Thanx in advance!

Peter Liu
cliu@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
From: aq2@prism.gatech.EDU (QUAY,ANDREW MARK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7 Force Quit Help
Keywords: system 7,quit
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:39:25 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Anybody know how to turn off System 7's command-option-shift-control-esc
for force quiting applications? I'd prefer an init over editing the system
files.
 
Please e-mail responses and post if think others are interested.
 
thanks, andy
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: revu@ellis.uchicago.edu (Sendhil Revuluri)
Subject: Re: ATM for free, or is it?
Reply-To: revu@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:23:04 GMT

From the keyboard of GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor):
>In <18a73uINN2ls@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> al862@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>> 
>> 	Here's a question that's been bugging me for a while now. ATM
>> was made available free or nearly free for a good long time now...
>
>The "free" version ($7.50 cost for shipping and handling) only comes
>with one type family: Adobe Garamond.  And it takes 4-6 weeks to
>arrive, even when you order via credit card.

They only *guarantee* arrival in 4-6 weeks.  My copy arrived in 5
business *days*.

[blah blah]

Though if you NEED exactly those 4 type families, mail-order is the
way to go, this is still a pretty good deal.  For example, I never use
Helvetica, but I love Garamond.  I may just use Garamond on everything
now.  Before, Garamond looked really icchy from a StyleWriter.  Now
it looks nice.  Great output for $7.50 (which is much less than $60).

This is not necessarily a rip-off.


Sendhil Revuluri (s-revuluri@uchicago.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: darragh@maths.tcd.ie (Darragh J. Delany)
Subject: Re: Apps disappear while in use! Help, help.
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:01:01 GMT

rek@sei.cmu.edu (Bob Kubiak) writes:

>We have a troubling phenomenon on some number of systems (so far about 6 out
>of 250) of various types (IIci IIcx, IIfx, etc.), all running a System 7.0.1
>configuration that includes v1.1.1 of the System 7 Tuner. It seems
>applications *disappear* seemingly while in use! The application files can
>typically later be found by Norton in the deleted file space, but are most
>often unusable. The user is typically actively working, then their application
>quits unexpectedly or crashes. The application then can't be restarted because
>the application file is no longer on the disk (likely the reason for the quit
>or crash).  We've seen this repeatedly with MacX, and more recently on a
>couple of systems with Telnet and PowerPoint. The systems show no other sign
>of damage (as reported by tools like Norton Disk Doctor), don't seem to be
>infected by any known viruses, etc.. Many other (unaffected) systems with
>identical System Folder configurations don't exhibit the problem (yet), and
>most of the affected systems don't have any extensions or control panels added
>to our standard.  We're trying to narrow down what some of the similarities
>are (Apple disk drivers versus 3rd-party, etc.). Has anyone else seen this
>kind of behavior or have any hints on what to be looking for?

>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

One thing we have observed which is probably not your problem but worth
mentioning perhaps is the problem of dumping files. Users flick from 
application to desktop and select multiple files to dump but as the app
is also selected it goes in the bin as well and is inadvertently ditched
when the trash is emptied.



-- 
Dj.

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From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Function Keys for Soft PC on a PowerBook
Date: 14 Sep 1992 14:10:27 +0200
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1

In comp.sys.mac.system, article <A4Z6BJD@mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de>,
  andreasm@cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Mueller) writes:
> Hi, I have a PowerBook 145. The PowerBook has no function-keys.
> Several Dos-Programs need the function-keys.
> Does anybody have a solution for this problem.
> 
Use Cmd-<Number> for function key <number>. You can also turn on F-Key lock
with Cmd-F and then use the number keys directly.

This _should_ be findoutable by trial and error or by looking it up in TFM...

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From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Should I turn 32-Bit Addressing On or Off?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:30:14 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


triantos@acsu.buffalo.edu (Nick B Triantos) writes:

> vito@well.sf.ca.us (Andris Paul Vitols) writes:

>    Pretty weird... I've been using system 7 on an LC II for several months and
>    have had 32-Bit Addressing off the whole time.  What are the pros and cons
>    of this feature?  Will it de-stabilize things?  Speed things up?  Thanks...

> Basically, unless you have more than 8MB of RAM (be it physical or virtual),
> there is almost no reason to turn it on.  32-bit addressing allows your
> computer to utilize any RAM above 8MB.

32-bit addressing is necessary to access physical memory above 8 MB.
The amount of virtual memory that can be accessed in 24-bit mode, on
machines that support virtual memory, is 14 MB less 1 MB per NuBus card.

This makes virtual memory an attractive option for users with less than
8 MB physical but who need somewhat more than that and would prefer not
to use 32-bit mode. I used this setup for a few months but was unhappy
with the degradation I saw in system performance. So I bought more RAM,
turned on 32-bit mode and had to upgrade a couple of my inits (er, extensions).

-----
Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
CI$: 70262,3610
From: shiekh@ICTP.TRIESTE.IT (Andy Shiekh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: The original JumpStart
Date: 13 Sep 92 01:41:19 GMT

JumpStart 1.0, by Karl Joung in 1986 moves things around (surpercharges) to
make for a faster launch of the application.

(not to be confused with a more recent program by the same name, with no
relation).

Can anyone explain to me the workings of this and possible
incompatabilities
(with 64K ROMS perhaps, concerning locking and unlocking resources in
memory).
The resulting supercharged product is a little larger than the original.

  I can send the original application to anyone interested, and recall that
there was once a manual with it. If so, could someone send it to me?


Andy

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ian@syacus.acus.oz.au (Ian Joyner)
Subject: Re: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:19:32 GMT

erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:
>ian@syacus.acus.oz.au (Ian Joyner) writes:

>> Unix somehow sits in the middle of mainframes and workstations, but is
>> not particularly suitable for either task. So where will it be in 10 years?

>I think the industry is definitely moving in the direction of microkernels.
>In 10 years Unix will still be around but it will probably be only one
>of several "operating systems" that actually run on top of an MK, possibly
>even on the same machine since processor speeds will increase dramatically
>in the next ten years.

This is interesting, and leads towards having truly open operating systems
sometime in the future. Unix is often touted to be an or even the Open OS.
This, however, is a strange definition of 'Open'. Open will be when we
have many diverse systems and operating systems that conform to specific
interfaces so that they can interoperate in a wide enviroment external
to themselves. Sitting on an MK will be one way to achieve this. But I
think in the future that this will be a great advantage to those who are
a little bit more visionary, and who want to buy whatever the future
equivalent of the Mac is. They will not have to listen to all the
detractors who say it is not MS-DOS compatible (not true anyway),
as MS-DOS and Mac will both play on a level playing field. This way
there will be many more interesting and novel systems that are able
to exist in the market place. We won't be locked into any one vendor's
systems, or in fact into Unix. Standardisation on one OS is 'not' open
systems.

-- 
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 how hard it is to grow, Can you imagine the order of the universe?" ABWH
Disclaimer:Opinions and comments are personal.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: eseitz@athena.mit.edu (Elizabeth A Seitz)
Subject: Hiding printers from users
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:02:17 GMT

This is probably a FAQ and I apologize for the waste of bandwidth if 
it is:

Is there a simple way to hide printers from the users on the chooser?

please reply by e-mail since my news reading is sporadic 

thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system