HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: uucico hangs under 0.97pl2
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:40:15 GMT

Since upgrading to 0.97pl2 and GCC 2.2.2, I have been having a problem where
my UUCP's uucico program will hang on about the third or fourth time it attempts
to place a call.  It has to be killed by hand in order for things to start
working again.  Under 0.96a, I never had this problem.  The UART is a standard
UART.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this or does anyone have any ideas what
could be causing my uucico package to hang?

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 16550A
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:10:30 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug26.172227.16546@pool.info.sunyit.edu>, ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:

| I've been having problems with 16450's in my two Linux machines.  I haven't
| noticed it with my serial mouse, but my modem lines get forgotten my
| Linux.  It doesn't happen all the time, so it is unpredictable.  I will
| be connected somewhere, then all of a sudden get a little line noise and
| the serial port goes dead.  If I disconnect the phone line quick enough,
| I can sometimes drop carrier and regain my serial port.  Otherwise, it
| is dead until I reboot.  This has happened with an internal modem in both

  Does your software disable XON flow control? I've seen just wehat you
describe when XON was left enabled and line noise looked like a ^S,
shutting the output down.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: Mike.Bloxham@f22.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Bloxham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Rootimage 97-1
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:28:26 -0800

In a msg on <Aug 27 16:03>, George Thiruvathukal of 1:343/94 writes:

 GT> From: gkt@iitmax.iit.edu (George Thiruvathukal)

 GT> jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:
> Mike.Bloxham@f22.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Bloxham) writes:
 GT> [...]
> >rootimage file is larger than a 1.2mb 5.25" floppy.  Rawrite 
> >errors after it finishes track 79.  Is this a problem?  I could
> > actually load the diskette though!  Not sure if it is 
> >complete.  

> rootimage-0.97.1 is *exactly* 1200KB, and it fits on a HD 5.25" 
> disk perfectly, in my experience.
> 
> I don't know why rawrite is giving any errors, unless there are
> problems with the disk you wrote the image too.  Anyone else 
> have any ideas or similar problems?

 GT> In my experience rawrite stops writing tracks once EOF is reached 
 GT> for the raw file. If the file were 1200KB, and KB==1000, then 
 GT> the number of bytes would be less than available on a 1.2MB 
 GT> diskette, where MB=1024*1024. Was an "error" message actually 
 GT> displayed?
The error (or maybe just a message) was 'Address mark not found'.
The message occurs after the last track is written.

mike

 * Origin: Mikro_Systems * 608-837-2918 * V32b/v42b * (1:121/22)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student))
Subject: Re: Can't compile xv-2.21, help!
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:49:02 GMT

In article <C-AMB.92Sep1101334@solitude.math.utah.edu> c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston) writes:
>	I am having one hell of a time compiling programs for X.  I
>have installed the xprog file and followed all instructions for
>placement of the libs.  However, when trying to compile xv I recieve
>the following errors.
>
># make
>gcc -s -o xv xv.a libjpeg.a libtiff.a -lX11 -lm
>xv.a(xvjpeg.o): Undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment
>xv.a(xvjpeg.o): Undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment
>make: *** [xv] Error 1
>#
>
>Does xv need some other libs?
>
>I am running:  	linux 0.97pl2
>		x11v1.1 with 8514/a patches
>		gcc 2.2.2d
>
>	I am also having problems with any X11 program I compile with
>shared libs core dumping all over the place.  This seems to suggest
>that something is wrong with my libs, but what?
>--
>--------------------------------------------------------
>  Mark Alston        
>  c-amb@math.utah.edu
>       
>       It is not just a riot of blots and blurs and 
>      disjointed jottings linked by spurts of speed...
>      it only looks as like it as damn it.
>       
>                          James Joyce, Finnegans Wake
>---------------------------------------------------------
>

Oh boy. First there is README and FAQ for GCC 2.2.2d (or
release note) YOU REALLY SHOULD READ IT!
It says that you can use old GCC (2.2.2) EXCEPT for one
thing: setjmp.
That has changed and if you look in the header you will
see that setjmp is now a macro. So you should compile
your program with -V 2.2.2 option, but make sure you
read FAQ on how to install 2.2.2d with 2.2.2 left.
Also, most X applications will only work when compiled
with -V 2.2.2 option - don't know why (FAQ? ;) but that's
life.
On the other hand I (with all my wisdom ;) ;) can't get
xv to work too! It hangs my server. I will try again
today with static library - heard it helps.
And hope it helps you . Good luck ...  .

				Rafal

-- 
/|| Numbers exist only in our minds. There is no physical entity that
 ||_is_ number 1. If there were, 1 would be in a place of honor in 
 || some great museum of science, and past it would file a steady
==== stream of mathematicians gazing at 1 in wonder and awe.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fordke@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Ford)
Subject: beginner questions (FAQ?)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:27:11 GMT


I'm new to linux and have a couple of questions.

Is there a FAQ somewhere?

Is there any work being done on a DOS emulator?
If so, what is the status?

Are the tools available to set up linux as a public access
system via modem which could provide Elm, Usenet news readers,
and possibly a shell?  Is anyone doing this now?

Thanks.
-- 
Keith Ford        __                                  73s, KA4ZDG
Intergraph Corp  /  \ Micro Magic BBS 1:373/12  Rush/Opus Archive
+1 205 730-8614  \__/ sysop@umagic.fidonet.org  server@ingr.com
fordke@ingr.com  [__] 830-2362 HST/V32bis 9600  "Subject: HELP"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dje@cygnus.com (Doug Evans)
Subject: Re: loadable device drivers
Organization: Cygnus Support
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 15:44:30 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Peter MacDonald (pmacdona@sanjuan) wrote:
: If I was a betting man, I would put money on loadable device drivers under
: Linux being modelled somewhat after Shared libraries with jump tables.
: 
:  - Device drivers would have to have no external unresolved references.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "external unresolved references".
It's trivial to link a driver in that references whatever kernel globals/funcs
you want (I showed how in the kernel mailing list).

:  - Each device would be assigned a fixed range of Virtual Memory.

Again, I'm not sure what you mean. One knows in advance how big a portion of
memory the driver will need for globals/funcs. You just need the kernel to
allocate the required amount, and then you can tell the linker to link the
code at the address returned from whatever memory allocation routine was used.

:  - The place in kernel memory where the device jump tables would reside
:    would be preinitialized to jump to an error routine, in case called
:    prior to initialization/loading.

One usually makes cdevsw[]/bdevsw[] (I forget if Linux calls them something
different) big enough to have as many empty slots as you need.

: This design would place constraints upon the device code, but would 
: simplify the kernel code, and would not require adding a linker to
: it (keep in mind Linux has survived quite nicely without it to date).

I'm not sure I understand this part - are you refering to a linker
residing in the kernel?

--
Doug Evans        | With views like these ...
dje@cygnus.com    |                           who needs disclaimers.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kutcha@eos.acm.rpi.edu (Phillip Rzewski)
Subject: SLS dist: Latest and where?
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:44:00 GMT


    I have heard enough good things about the SLS distribution that I am now
looking for a copy of it. I looked on tsx-11 and found a SLS distribution
which uses the 0.96 kernel. I am curious if there is a version on the net
somewhere that uses the 0.97pl2 kernel, or if I will have to download that
one and compile the kernel myself. Any direction you can provide (even if
it's "the one on tsx-11 is the one you'll have to settle for") is appreciated.

--
   Phillip Andrew Rzewski                      Internet: kutcha@acm.rpi.edu
      "Are you real?"                               "I'm 386 enhanced."
From: tiller@solace.me.uiuc.edu (Mike Tiller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Writing a Matlab-type Package for Linux and  On-Line FAQ
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:06:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <BtyrKz.FK4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson) writes:
|> There was at one time the public domain source code for an old matlab
|> ( from about 1982) available on the net. It is probably not completely
|> compatible with moden commercial versions. I`m sure it lacks the
|> graphing features and probably doesn't have the macro writing capacity.


	I remember hearing something about this and I also
recall the author of Matlab making it very clear that this was
not meant as a release and as I recall NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN.  It leaked
out from copies he had distributed to other professors.  He
gave the impression that he didn't think it was very robust
and he had *not* given permission for its redistribution so be
careful if you are redistributing it.

	The detail of this are fuzzy, but I am pretty sure the
guy wasn't real happy with the perception that there was a public
domain version of Matlab.

Michael Tiller
University of Illinois
(tiller@solace.me.uiuc.edu)
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Broken symlinks ?? (followup)
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:55:39 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Aug31.054608.2405@athena.mit.edu> hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com writes:
>
>0.97 seems to fail if the actual executable is owned by root and has a mode of
>711 (or actually, any mode that does not include read permission).  If the executable
>is owned by a non-root user, things do work correctly.  Is this some sort of security
>measure in the kernel?  Maybe I (or anyone else) should look at the kernel code to
>find out!

It's a bug in 0.97.pl2, but I've corrected it already, and pl3 (out next
weekend) will take care of it.  The problem is that the current symlink
code wants read-permissions to the file the symlink points to, due to me
not thinking all the changes through when I updated to the better
namei() routines in patch2. 

The interim solution while waiting for patch3 is to make all executables
or directories that are pointed to by symlinks world readable, and the
problem should go away.  In case somebody wants to correct in in their
kernel, the place to look at is fs/open.c and fs/namei.c - you should
move the permission check from open_namei() to sys_open(). 

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: Re: Killing background processes on logout
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:33:54 GMT

Well, I stumbled into work this morning shaking my head and wondering what
in the world have I let myself be duped by.  Was Sun's csh really "bogus"
and leaving background jobs up and running?

Well I fired up OpenWindows ... and then it hit me.  I do not ever recall
"testing" this behavior outside of X.  In a cmdtool, I fired up a second
csh and ran a process in the background.  I then exited the cmdtool and
lo and behold, the background job was still running (isn't that cute :-)

My best guess would be that when either X or the cmdtool exits, they are
killing background processes.

So, I stand (sit) corrected.  I now fully share the belief that the csh does
not kill background processes on exit.  Thank you everyone for helping me
to see the light!  :-)

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
From: slix@svcs1.UUCP (Bill Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: linux 0.97 rootimage .1, some problems
Keywords: linux, mount, compress, 0.97.1
Date: 30 Aug 92 01:33:22 GMT
Organization: Silicon Valley Computer Society, Sunnyvale, CA

Hi linuxers,
 
I got the 0.97.1 root image today, and there are still some unresolved
questions I have relating to mount -t msdos on it.  I realize that I
wasn't able to do it in 0.97.  It seems to work all right (at least I
can read a 1.44 msdos filesystem) but when I do the mount -t msdos /dev/fd1H1440
/mnt, I get a "no bmap support."  Exactly what does this mean?
 
Secondly, when i booted up 0.97.1 today to check the new root image out, I
got a "floppy: unexpected interrupt" during the initial check for 
devices that linux does.  It didn't seem to affect anything, but I should
mention it anyway.
 
Thirdly, it seems that when I (mistakenly :-) send the output of compress
to stdout, from then on (in that particular virtual tty) the character set
is *permanently* changed.  Instead of seeing normal characters when I
type, or when the system types, I get all upper 128 PC ascii characters
instead.  If I login to the other virtual tty's, their character display
is unaffected.  The problem isn't solved by sync;logout and then a relogin
either.  This seems really strange.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Boot 0.97 w/o SCSI?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:56:37 GMT

In article <BttzGA.GEo@acsu.buffalo.edu> visnurpk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin) writes:
>Hi,
>
>   Just recently gotten back into Linux (am running 0.95c+ currently) and
>wanted to upgrade to the most recent version.  Downloaded the boot image
>for 0.97 from tsx-11, but when it boots it "hangs" on the SCSI part.  My
>machine has 2 IDE drives and one SCSI tape drive.  It senses the tape drive,
>as a host, and then seems to hang.  Read in the FAQ that this might happen,
>but I have never come out of it.  Does anyone have a boot image w/o the
>SCSI code compiled into it?  Tryed compiling the new code, but gave up after

Which SCSI board do you have?  

>to many configuration errors (make depend + .s.S not working with pmake).

Pmake is not 100% backwards compatable with good old make.  Use 
GNU make instaed, and your problems will go away.

-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Thomas Wuensche <tw@fgb1.fgb.mw.tu-muenchen.de>
Subject: Patches to InterViews 3.1-beta
Summary: This note contains a pointer to patches for interviews 3.1-beta for linux
Keywords: Interviews Linux
Reply-To: tw@fgb1.fgb.mw.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:17:22 GMT

As talks about Interviews get louder, I'll add some information:

I'm in game with my interviews port for some time and actually
have Interviews 3.1 beta running. I just made the patches
available in the form I've sent them to Mark Linton on
fgb1.fgb.mw.tu-muenchen.de in pub/linux/patches/iv3.1beta.diff.
They include patches for doc, which I actually use for my thesis.

Mark Linton seemed to be willing to include them in the final
release of 3.1.

	- Thomas 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Subject: Re: FAQ's where ?????
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:35:05 GMT

In article <steve.714848578@crash>, steve@crash.cts.com (Steve Morrison) writes:
> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
> 
> }steve@crash.cts.com (Steve Morrison) writes:
> }>I've been watching this group for
> }>several weeks and haven't see an FAQ posting.  How often is it posted?
> }>When will the next posting be?
> 
> }It has been a long time since the FAQ was last posted, and it seems that
> }it isn't currently posted regularly.  However, it can be retrieved by
> }FTP.  A snippet from my weekly Meta-FAQ (mail me if you haven't seen it,
> }'cause then I may have a problem with automatically posting it, though I
> }of course do see it, every Monday):
> 
> }The general Linux FAQ (FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions list, with answers)
> 
> }        The FAQ contains a LOT of information, and is pretty long
> }        (posted as two parts).  Everybody should read it, 'cause it
> }        really does contain solutions to the many common problems.  It
> }        can be FTP'd from at least tsx-11 (docs/FAQ_xxx, where xxx is
> }        the date), and nic.funet.fi (doc/FAQ_xxx).  Also check the
> }        archives at pit-manager, send mail to
> }        mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu with the word help in it.
> 
> }BTW, tsx-11 is tsx-11.mit.edu.  Numeric addresses can be found in the
> }Meta-FAQ itself.
> 
> As a matter of fact, I did  your Meta-FAQ, but I don't
> have FTP privileges on this system.

Huh?  Do you mean you don't have access to an FTP program, or do you mean
that you couldn't successfully login to it using FTP?

> How about E-mail??

I don't think so, but if you must, try the FTPMAIL server ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com.
Be prepared to be patient.  It could take days for you to get replies.
From: J.Jagger@sheffield-city-poly.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Trident beta?
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:37:44 GMT
Reply-To: J.Jagger@sheffield-city-poly.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet

Just a quick posting asking about the state of the trident driver.
Is it alpha?, beta?, released? Where can I get a copy? Thanks
JJ
From: csg203@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Bluebeard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Swap files versus swap partitions
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:07:29 GMT
Organization: Elf Bashers Anonymous

In article <1992Sep3.130335.18409@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
>What reasons are there to prefer swap partitions instead of swap files? 
>I have the impression that a partition may be a bit faster, but how much
>is this?  5% or 50%?  

On a 25Mhz 386SX with 4 megs of RAM, converting my 2Mb swap file into a 2Mb
partition cut a full kernel rebuild from 40 minutes to 35.

Obviously the performance increase isn't amazing, but with Linus bringing out
multiple swap files at an ftp site near you soon; It seems reasonable to 
create a swap partition first and add a swap file when needed.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: mount for 0.97lp2
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:14:44 GMT

Where can sources be found for mount, umount, etc., for 0.97 and supporting
the minix, extfs, and msdos filesystems?

The mount-src.tar.Z on tsx-11 does not seem to know anything about msdos
filesystems and dumps core every so graciously :-)

-kwh-
-- 
Kevin W. Hammond
hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com

  CASE Engineering * 575 W. Madison #1601 * Chicago, IL 60661 * (312)902-2161
From: lm@slovax.Eng.Sun.COM (Larry McVoy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNU kids on the block?   (sorry... couldn't resist)
Date: 30 Aug 1992 03:23:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: slovax

steve@hacker.UUCP (Stephen M. Youndt) writes:
: but I feel very strongly about one thing [...]
: (according to rumors :-), and that's reloadable device drivers.  
: It just seems that the micro kernel people are the only ones doing it.

SunOS has had loadable device drivers, system calls, and functions (I'm
not sure what you use the last one for but there it is) since SunOS 4.1.
They are very useful.  And drivers, at least, are fairly easy to add
in - they are quite clean about interfaces.
---
Larry McVoy			(415) 336-7627			 lm@sun.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: scott@pascal.geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: DISASTER AT MIT!!!!!
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:09:51 GMT

  First of all, I think the subject is way out of line.

  I have confidence that the archive will get better because I received
a very welcoming response to a suggestion I sent.  I believe Ted has
said in several notes recently that his life is in a bit of turmoil as
the result of a move and that he hopes to have more time to concentrate
on Linux soon.
--
From: woody@cs.utexas.edu (James Woodgate)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Changing form the Minix FS to Extended FS
Date: 4 Sep 1992 13:29:42 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu
Summary: Minix FS to Extended FS
Keywords: EFS mount


I've seen a lot of posts lately about 14 character long
filenames and the Extended FS, which seems to be fairly
stable.  I was wondering, how easy is it to use the EFS.

Is it just a matter of mounting it as an EFS or do you
need to re-partition/re-install the dev?

My Linux(minix) partition is /dev/hda2
I'm using gcc 2.2.2d and Linux 0.97pl2, and I do have
the new mount.

BTW - I installed gcc 2.2.2d with NO problems, in fact
      I was worried I had done something wrong because
      it was too easy... :D


-- 
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           -Linux Rules-                |
  -"I've been Dos free for 30 days      |
    now."-Former Dos Addict             | Address: woody@cs.utexas.edu
From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Odd number of sectors???
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:39:59 GMT
Reply-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester

In article <COSC16TT.92Aug31165735@menudo.uh.edu> DGray@uh.edu writes:
>During the installation script linux says to make a partition.  It
>asks for the first cyl (says "(1-820)") and I tell it 1.  It then asks
>for the last cyl (says "enter last cyl or +size +sizeM +sizeK
>(1-820)") and I tell it 820.  It says "Warning: partition 1 has an odd
>number of sectors".  It says this no matter what I put for the last cyl.

Let us assume that your disk has an even number of sectors per cylinder.
In partition 1, the first sector of the first cylinder is taken up by
the Master Boot Record and the primary partition table.  Therefore
cylinder 1 contains an odd number of available sectors.  Each other
cylinder contains an even number of sectors.  Therefore, any range
of cylinders beginning with 1 will contain an odd number of available
sectors.  Now fdisk by default rounds any number you suggest to the
nearest cylinder boundary.  Now do you see what is happening?

It shouldn't really be a problem; more than 512 bytes is wasted in
one way or another in most installations.

     -- Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
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