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From: dagtas@morrill.ecn.purdue.edu (Serhan Dagtas)
Subject: Re: SEHID TURAYLIC'IN SON SOZLERI : DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, 
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:48:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.014330.23297@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer ) writes:
> In article <1993Jan20.180115.1231@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> dagtas@noble.ecn.purdue.edu (Serhan Dagtas) writes:
> >Asagidaki yazi, 13 Ocak 1993 tarihli ZAMAN Gazetesi'nden alinmistir.
> >
> ><------------------------Buradan Kesiniz--------------------------->
> >
> >Turaylic'in soz sozleri: " DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, ALLAH'A EMANET"
> >
>
> Ayip ulan, son yillarin en kalles cinayetlerinden birinin reklam
> amaciyla kullanilmasi igrenc birsey.
>
>
> Selim Guncer

Asagidaki yazi, 13 Ocak 1993 tarihli ZAMAN Gazetesi'nden alinmistir.

<------------------------Buradan Kesiniz------------------------------>

....
Ote yandan Bakan KILERCIOGLU, Saraybosna ziyaretinin sonunda Turk gazete-
cilere katkilarindan dolayi tesekkur ederken,
" ZAMAN muhabirine ozellikle tesekkurler. Kendisi buraya daha once 6 sefer
gelmis. Tecrubelerinden cok istifade ettik" diye konustu.

Mesut Erisen
ZAMAN
13 Ocak 1993

<-----------------------Buradan Kesiniz------------------------------->

Ne kadar igrenc (!)........................

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From: Telat Yanik <tyanik@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: bos
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:10:47 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]


subjecte bosdedik ya
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Basketbol
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:34:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Thu Jan 21, 1993  9:40 am  EST
kutluk@language-linguistics.umist.ac.uk

TUrkiye'den Su haberi aldIk :
-----------------------------
   Efes Pilsen Litvanya nin Riga takimini Istanbul da 16 sayi farkla
yenerek yari finale bir adim daha yaklasti. Efes in grupta birinci olmasi
finale cikmasi icin daha buyuk avantaj, cunku obur gruptan tass gibi Aris
namaglup geliyor, ikinci takim ise daha zayifca olan Sirp takimi...
   Herneyse en buyuk Efes baska buyuk yok ...
-----------------------------
Kutluk
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:14910 talk.politics.mideast:26229 soc.culture.greek:12490 soc.culture.europe:11390 soc.history:10947
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: Re: Greece reacts sharply to remarks by Danish foreign
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:05:57 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

rika@informix.com (Rika Tsitsinia) writes:

>In article <C1A4BM.3w@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger) writes:
>>
>>The only reason that the EC doesn't call Macedonia by that name is
>>because the Greeks have been throwing a hissy fit whenever anybody
>>suggests that it's OK to use the name 'Macedonia'.
>>
>	I would whole-heartedly accept the new slogan. But tell me:
>    Are there a Greek Macedonia, Bulgarian Macedonia, Albanian
>    Macedonia and the Macedonia? Who are these last guys?
>    The originals? Why no qualification, no prefix for them?
>    And what are the bounds of Macedonia, anyway? Is there
>    a Serbian Macedonia? A Hungarian one? Who fixed the bounds
>    and when? And why?
>	Georgios


Nobody is bringing up any Macedonian ethnic group except for the Greeks. The 
Macedonians who want their own country are simply that - Macedonians. Then, on 
the other side of the border are the Greeks who call their province by the 
same name. If they wish to call themselves Greek Macedonians it is their 
privilege but I thought they wanted to basically be Greek and not Macedonian. 
It should be one or the other.

Fred
-- 
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26 Warren St.   home: fr@icdi10.compu.com 	harem" - Emerson (1860) 
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From: haluk@eedsp.gatech.edu (Haluk Aydinoglu)
Subject: Re:dusunuyorum oyleyse vurun
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology - DSP
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:03:50 GMT



Nete yollanan Ilhan Selcuk'un yazisi gercekten dikkatle okumaya deger bir yazi.
Ben bu yaziya birsey daha eklemek istiyorum.Ilhan Selcuk'un saydigi o suclu
ulkeler arasinda ne yazikki bizde variz.Egitim ucusu amaciyla Incirlikten kalkan
ucaklarda daha once bu bombalama isine katilmistir.Ayriyeten Yugoslavya topraklari
uzerinde ucus yasagi getiren o sacma sapan BM karari ciktiginda cok degerli
politikacilarimiz sanki bir marifet yapmis gibi ortalarda gerinerek
dolasiyorlardi (buyuk ihtimalle o kararla hicbir ilgileri yokken kendilerine paye
cikariyorlardi)Halbuki Sirplar silahlari kara yoluyla alabilirken Bosnalilar
sadece hava yoluyla yardim alabilirler.Bugun bati timsah gozyaslari dokmektedir.
Sozde kardesimiz Araplar ise sanki cok onemliymis gibi Filistinli teroristler
sorununu ele almistir.Unutmamak lazimdirki Filistinli terorist orgutler
gerektiginde ASALA,DEV-SOL,PKK ile isbirligi yapmakta, sevgili Arap
kardeslerimizde onlara para akitmaktadir.Kuveytin Guney Kibrisa yaptigi yardim
miktari milyar dolarlar seviyesindedir.
Turkiyenin halkinin cok buyuk bir kismi Muslumandir fakat biz Arap degiliz, 
bunu ilk anlayan insanlardan biri oldugu icin ATATURKE hayran olmamak elde degil
-- 
Haluk Aydinoglu
Georgia Tech, School of Electrical Engineering, Atlanta, GA  30332
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INTERNET: $me@eedsp.gatech.edu

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From: an7793@anon.penet.fi
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:20:01 GMT

Pro is to con as progress is to Congress.
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From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
Subject: Re: >>>>>>>>> HAKKI KOCABAS ADLI HIYAR HAKKINDA <<<<<<<<<<
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:57:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.095625.14717@ulrik.uio.no> suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci) writes:
>	Bence hic kimse hickimsenin nasil tartisma yapacagina
>	karismamasi gerek, sizin tabirinizle, o zaman gene 'duzeyin

Bu kufurcu anon'un yapmaya calistigi tartisma olabilir mi? Olsa olsa
saldiri, karalama, cirkinlik.

>	Genelde bir turk ailesinde:
>
>while (TRUE == 1) {
>	1) Hersey kavgayla baslar
>	2) hersey kavgayla cozulur
>	3) mahelle gobek atar zevkten
>	4) herkes ic donlarini sutyenlerini balkonlardan sarkitir
>	   fakat karisini tepeden tirnaga siyahlarla kapatir
>	4) Ortak calisma ve cozume varma yok (individualism felaket)
>}

Cok genel bir genellestirme degil mi :-) ?
Ornegin 4)'de Amerikalilar bizi havada karada haklar.
3) ve 4) ise daha cok gecekondu mahallelerini hatirlatiyor, veya 
Fatih vs.
-- 
Emre Erkut                                      Your wisdom is limited 
Krannert, Purdue                                by the comprehension
Turkish Education Foundation 1992 Scholar       of your adressee.
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From: RCIRIT%DENVER@VAXF.Colorado.EDU (REMZI CIRIT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Smart Guys do smart things
Date: 22 Jan 1993 09:10:06 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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I would like you to see how smart these guys are;



        "We lie to you by not telling you things.
         We don't lie by telling you things that aren't true."

         --- US official to Wash. Post 1/11/91

Aren't they smart ?

Remzi Cirit
From: an7793@anon.penet.fi
Subject: No Subject
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:20:01 GMT

Maier's Law:
	If the facts do not conform to the theory, they must be
	disposed of.

Corollaries:
	1.  The bigger the theory, the better.
	2.  The experiment may be considered a success if no more than
	    50% of the observed measurements must be discarded to
	    obtain a correspondence with the theory.
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Date: 23 Jan 93 20:00:03 GMT
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An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it.
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A diplomat is someone who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you will look forward to the trip.
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From: emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut)
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Subject: Re: Turks mourn journalist
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:55:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <9301262125.AA01625@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU> writes:

>    "Turkey will not be Iran," demonstrators chanted in both cities. "Mullahs
>
>out. Down with Sharia (Islamic law).
>
-- 
Emre Erkut                                      You can murder people 
Krannert, Purdue                                but you can never 
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Date: 23 Jan 93 19:20:03 GMT
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God isn't dead, he just couldn't find a parking place.
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Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Tuesday, 26 Jan 1993 11:24:03 TUR
From: <A11560@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject:    Ugur Mumcu

Butun Ataturkculerin ve butun dusunen basi sagolsun.
Dun Kubilayin basini kesen gucler bugun Ugur Mumcuyu katlettiler.

Butun Ataturkculerin ve butun dusunen insanlarin basi sagolsun.

Turker Gulum
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From: guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer )
Subject: Re: SEHID TURAYLIC'IN SON SOZLERI : DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, ALLAH'A EMANET
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:47:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.220348.26627@doug.cae.wisc.edu> yamen@cae.wisc.edu (Soner Yamen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.014330.23297@ennews.eas.asu.edu> guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer ) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.180115.1231@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> dagtas@noble.ecn.purdue.edu (Serhan Dagtas) writes:
>>>Asagidaki yazi, 13 Ocak 1993 tarihli ZAMAN Gazetesi'nden alinmistir.
>>>
>>><------------------------Buradan Kesiniz--------------------------->
>>>
>>>Turaylic'in soz sozleri: " DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, ALLAH'A EMANET"
>>>
>>
>>Ayip ulan, son yillarin en kalles cinayetlerinden birinin reklam
>>amaciyla kullanilmasi igrenc birsey.
>>
>
>Kisa sure once Turkiye'de idim. Star Tv'sinden, tum politikacilara,
>ilk okul cocuklarina kadar hatta Bosnak asilli futbolculara...
>herkesin dilinde bu mesele vardi. Kimin reklam icin, kimin icten
>....

Sozlerimi carpitma, Turalic'in son sozlerinin "Yasasin Zaman Gazetesi"
oldugunu iddia etmek olayi suistimal etmekten daha igrenc birsey.
Oldu olacak Zaman muhabiri Turalic'i korumasi gereken Fransiz
askerlerine cesedi ortmesi icin Zaman nushalari verseydi de olay tam
olsaydi. 

Selim Guncer
--
Selim E. Guncer               | Jaca negra, luna grande,
CSSER-ASU                     | y aceitunas en mi alforja.
(602)-965-4096                | Aunque sepa los caminos
guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu     | yo nunca llegare a Cordoba.. (FGL)
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From: an7500@anon.penet.fi (R. Ozturk)
Subject: Bu bir deneme yayinidir
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:14:26 GMT

{    Bu bir deneme yayini olup, 
    okumak istemeyenler lutfen okumasin. }

program deneme;   
   var
      i:integer;


begin {main program}

     for i:=1 to 50 do
      begin
        writeln('Bu bir deneme yayini olup,');
        writeln('Okumak istemeyenler lutfen okumasin');

      end;

writeln('Deneme dedigimiz halde 50 defa okudunuz');
writeln('Bir de deneme olmasaydi...');

end. {main}


Selam Getirmisem


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From: RCIRIT%DENVER@VAXF.Colorado.EDU (REMZI CIRIT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: OZGURLUK VE UGUR MUMCUNUN OLDURULMESI
Date: 24 Jan 1993 15:24:42 -0600
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     Ozgurluk korkusu genelde ezilenlerin degil ezenlerin bir sorunudur.
     Oyle bir korku ki zaman zaman ezilenlerin ezenlerin yerini aldiklari
     durumlarda, ezilenlerin eski ezenlerden olan korkusu onlari yeniden
     eski ezenlerin yeni ezilenlerin uzerine ozgurluk korkusu ile baski
     kurmasina sebeb olur. Bu korku OZGURLUGU KAYBETME  korkusudur. Bu
     korku bu cercevede bir baski unsuru haline gelebilmekde ve en az
     ezenlerin baskis kadar acimasiz olabilmekdedir.
     
     Bugune kadar kafalarimizda canlanan eger solcu biri oldurulurse hemen 
     sagcilar yapmistir. Yada Sagci biri olurulurse solular yapmistir anla
     yisi 12 eylul rejiminden sonra sag ve sol kavramlari bir olcude anlamini
     yitirdigi icin, oldurlen her sol kaynakli kisinin sorumlusu olarak
     muslumanlar olarak gorulmeye baslandi. Bu anlayis ne zaman sona erecek
     bilmiyorum. 
     
     Allah (cc) insan emanet olarak verdigi cani hic kimsenin haksiz yere
     almaya hakki yokdur. Ugur Mumcu islama sempati ile bakmayabilir ama 
     Islam Huku cercevesinde yasamaya hakki vardir. Allah'in insanlara verdigi
     bu secme hakkini kimsenin digerlerinin elinden almaya hakki yokdur.
     
     Ugur Mumcunun olumunu gazetelere  bir jeton atip telefon eden herkes
     ustlenebilir. Dolayisiyla bir suru orgut rahatlikla ustlenebilir. hemen
     gordugunuz her orgutu bahane ederek Islamcilar yapti havasina kapilmayalim.
     Kimin elinin kimin cebinde oldugunu bilinmedigi bir donemde, suc ispatlanin
     cay akadar kimseye suc atmanin bir anlami yok.
     
     Klasik kafa en azindan dusunce bazinda ezenler sinifindan oldugunu sanan
     kisiler hemen cozume yonelmeye basladilar askeri darbe. Evet 12 Eylulden
     once  Abdi Ipekcinin oldurulmesi olaylari tirmandirmisti. Simdide sagcisi
     nin, solcusunun, Islamcisinin pek kaala almadigi fakat solun onde gelen
     ismi Ugur Mumcu olduruldu. Dikkatleri nereye cekmek istiyorlar dersiniz.
    Ugur Mumcu genelde terorism uzmani olarak bilinir, ozellike mafya ve 
    teorism uzerine  calismalari vardi. Onlar yapmis olamazlar mi ? Neden hemen 
    islamcilar yapti diye saha kalkiliyor.  Nerden gelirse gelsin haksiz yere
    can almanin Islamda yeri yokdur  ve olamyacakdir.
    
     Ezenlerin uyguladiklari baski nasil yanlis ise, ezilenlerin kendilerini
     savunm araci olarak gordukleri terorist eylemlerin islamda yeri yokdur.
     
     Remzi Cirit
From: RCIRIT%DENVER@VAXF.Colorado.EDU (REMZI CIRIT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re:Islami Cihad mi. PKK mi ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:26:38 GMT
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 Once musadenizle su alintiyida yapayim
  
  > 25.1.1993 tarihli Milliyeten Haberler
  > ...................................................... 
  >  Olayi, Islami
  > Kurtulus, Islami BUyuk Dogru Akincilar Cephesi, Islami Cihad
  > ve PKK orgutleri ustlendi.......................
  > Mumcu son olarak PKK ve Apo ile ilgili bir calisma
  > hazirliyordu. Mumcu'nun cenazesi carsamba gunu topraga 
  > verilecek.....................
  

Sadece kim yaparsa yapmis olsun olayain noyeliginin degismiyecegi
icin. Katil katildir, bunun muslumani arabi, turku, kurdu olmaz.
Fakat daha faili ortaya acikmadigi halde, bazilarinin bunu bahane edip 
Islamcilar yapti, "HAYDI ISLAMA SALDIRALIM" mantigi ile hareket etmeleri
karsisinda baskalarininda bu isi yapabilme ihtimali oldugunu belirtmeye
calisiyorum.

Hurmetlerimle
Remzi Cirit
From: vinita@redbird.pa.dec.com (Vinita Bhatia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Survey of international students
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:12:25 GMT
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This is a request for help in a survey of facilities provided to internation
students on different campuses.  I need the information for a class project.

I will appreciate you sharing your experiences of the International Students
Offices in your university with me.  Please let me know of any program that
you thought was useful to you when you joined the school.  Also, if you felt
there was something for which you really needed help and was not addressed
before or after you joined the school.

Thanks for your help.

Vinita
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Vinita Bhatia
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From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.vietnamese,soc.history
Subject: Model UN Conference in Prague
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:52:38 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

(If possible, please print out and post for people who might be
interested)

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations -- WorldMUN is a great forum for the discussion of 
current issues being debated by the United Nations today: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
conference that brings together university students and young
professionals from around the globe to siimulate the workings of the
United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
March 28, 1993, through March 31, 1993, at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
center.  Prague is both one of the most beautiful metropoles of Europe and
an ideal location for debating current world politics and the changing
role of the United Nations.

The Hotel diplomat is a luxury resort that offers restaurants, shops, a
night club, and fitness and spa equipment.  Delegates will stay at the
Hotel Diplomat for the reduced rate of 130DM/day double occupancy, which
includes two meals a day.

Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
Joshua A. Salomon, Secretary-General
Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-3810
UNITED STATES

Telephone:  001-617-493-6995
Fax:  001-617-493-6995

James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
From: speeo@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr Ercan Otemel 92)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Ugur Mumcu'nun oldurulmesi ve dusunceler
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:45:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
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Dusunduklerini pratik hayata aktarmakda basarili bir gazeteci olan
Ugur Mumcu arabasina konulan bir bomba sonucu hayatini kaybetmistir.
Turkiye Cumhuriyeti hukumetinin meselenin ustune gitmesi ve bu isin
arkasinda kimlerin oldugunu ortaya cikartmasi gerekmektedir.

Insanlarin inandiklarini, dusunce ve hayat goruslerini onlari
oldurerek ortadan kaldirmak mumkun degildir. O nedenle
bu isin arkasinda kimler varsa onlari ogrenmek TURK ulusunun
hakkidir. Bu isi de digerleri gibi hemen MUSLUMANlar uzerine
yikmak oldukca kolay bir kurtulus yoludur. Ugur Mumcuda her insan
gibi yasama hak ve hurriyetine sahiptir. Bu hak ona onunda
yaraticisi olan ALLAH(CC) tarafindan verilmistir. 


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