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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Seyon 1.7
Date: 7 Jan 1993 08:08:33 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes:

>In article <1993Jan7.010930.1477@athena.mit.edu> ss@uucp writes:

>>Seyon, like almost all other source distributions, untars in ./seyon.
>>If you untar it in / it'll branch off you root directory, if you untar
>>it in /bin it'll brach off that, and so on for the rest. A reasonable
>>setup would be to untar all source distributions in /usr/src or
>>/usr/local/src.

>OK, Muhammad, let me start by saying that I am all for saving Bosnia. 
>I also thank you for personally responding to me regarding you software.

>However, you have to realize that many of us are in a different league
>here in the Unix front; for many of us Linux is a tool for learning
>Unix.  That means that some of us, myself included, are not very
>knowledgeable about the tar utility, either.  In fact, for some reason
>the tar man page is also useless in my set up (SLS 0.99), as when I
>invoke it, I get a text that starts like this:

[ stuff deleted ...]

>People will choose to read it if it's accessible and logically placed,
>something like the README or README.1ST files in most DOS packages.
>The problem with your docs is that they are accessible only AFTER seyon
>is installed, in the form of a man page.  In my case even that didn't
>work.  That's pretty frustrating, because everybody who mmanaged to get
>it going is praising Seyon.  So, let me do the same, will you?

>Thanks,
>Joe Pannon

I understand that this is a new experience for most people. They are 
installing and using unix for the first time. But, there are other news groups
out there other than this one.

People seem to think that since they installed linux, that only the linux
group has answers. Comp.unix.questions would be able to answer questions
about tar for instance. Also, since this was a problem with installation,
emailing the author would also work. This news group gets way too many
question that could better be answered in other groups or just by email.

I not trying to say people shouldn't post problems here, but use your
heads first. If its a unix question in general, post it to a general
unix group. 

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Bug in linux include file ?
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet


   From: jpo@kappa.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de (Joerg Pommnitz)
   Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:21:09 +0100

   A few kernel releases before the max number of open
   files changed to 256.

   But I think these macros havn't changed ! They still
   use a single 386 machine instruction to clear/set bits.

   I think this is wrong.
   Any comments ?

If you check a 386 architecture manual, you will find that the "single
386 machine instruction" can set/clear bits in a bit-array; not just in
a single 32 bit word.  Look in /usr/include/asm/bitops.h for a C
language translation of that "single 386 machine instruction", which was
provided in case someone wanted to port Linux to a non-386 based
architecture, like the Amiga, or the Dec Alpha.  :-)

						- Ted
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: Corrupt 'tar' man page
Bcc: aclark
Organization: self
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:49:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.134826.23887@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
>
>If anybody writes a tar man page, and wants it to be included in the
>Linux Doc set (when that becomes ready in a few years), send me a note
>and I'll direct you to the person who coordinates the man pages and
>other program specific documentation (I don't have his name handy at
>the moment, sorry).
>
>--
>Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi  (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
>
   As a matter of fact, I installed gnu tar on a couple of commercial
   systems, and they wanted man pages, so I generated two: tar.1 covers
   operation of tar, as usual, and tar.5 covers the file formats.
   They are both modifications of FSF documentation, which I modified
   to match the commercial environment. Of course, the FSF copyright still
   applies. I then re-modified for my own use with linux (changing the
   name from gnutar to tar).  Use at your own risk, but I think they
   are accurate.  I included some examples early in tar.1 cause I think
   examples are one of the best ways of starting to learn a tool.

   I loaded them in /pub/OS/Linux/ALPHA/incoming (I think that is
   correct), and dropped a note to arl@cs.hut.fi. I understand he will 
   move the files to the correct place:
    /pub/OS/Linux/ALPHA/doc-project on nic.funet.fi
   which is where others can find them.

  Enjoy.

  Al
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Dave@usppc.abb.com
Subject: Client/Server Coding
Reply-To: Dave@usppc.abb.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:19:45 GMT

Mike, I've used "UNIX Network Programming" and "Advanced Programming in
the UNIX Environment" by W. Richard Stevens as work-a-day references
for client server examples.  Comer, of XINU fame, also has an
interesting series on kernel design, transport implementation, and
network application development.  "Internetworking with TCP/IP Vol 3"
is thought well of by "Computer Literacy Bookshops".  The first two
volumes deal with specification, design, and implementation of the
internet protocols.  This volume "explores the essentials of how to
develop applications for TCP/IP."  This is supposed to complement
Stevens nicely.  If you have RPCGEN and its libraries available, "Power
Programming with RPC" by John Bloomer, is a good intro to use of ONC
remote procedure calls.

I personally own Comer's XINU kernel book (UNIX Edition 7 workalike for
PDP-11) and "Internetworking in the XINU Environment".  These are well
written and show him to be a good teacher (Purdue University with the
Dennings), good designer and coder.  The Stevens books are excellent.
They tour all of the useful system calls and primitives.  He shows how
to use AT&T semaphores correctly, for example.  His network programming
develops a number of familiar applications, like telnet, as examples.
His addvanced programming book is good for people coming to UNIX from
elsewhere.  It covers all of the sorts of things you might want to do
in making full scale applications.  Stuff like finding out what's on
the disk, he goes well beyond most texts on C programming.

I hope these are of help.  

Dave Hamby 
ABB Power Plant Controls
Dave.Hamby@Usppc.Abb.Com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dosburn@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Osburn)
Subject: Re: LILO HELP PLEASE
Keywords: lilo
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:27:53 GMT

dosburn@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Osburn) writes:

>I am having serious difficulties with lilo and need help.  I am not
>experienced at all with this, and I really can not seem to figure out
>what is going on / wrong even though I have  read all the documentation.
>I currently have BootManager, and OS/2, and Linux installed with
>everything working except to boot linux I must use a floppy.  The linux
>I am using is the SLS version.  (I downloaded SLS a, b, and c and
>installed.)  I have been trying to use the lilo version that came with
>the SLS to get linux to boot from the hard drive under BootManager.  It
>seems to run ok, but when I boot to it, I get "LILO loading......" and
>then it appears to start to boot normally.  It reports on lpt1, etc,
>then I get a kernal panic saying it cannot handle swap request at such
>and such a place.  After trying all kinds of things in vain, I removed
>the version of lilo I had installed, and went to tsx-11.mit.edu to get
>lilo.8.tar.Z.  I did all the make s to get this version ready, and then
>tried to run it using 

>/# /etc/lilo/lilo -b /dev/hda1 -i /etc/lilo/boot.b -v -v -v /Image

>and now it tells me:

>DEVICE 0X0301: MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CYLINDERS IS 1023, NOT 1024.

>I have no idea what this means.  Although the documentation for lilo is
>very nice, I can not for the life of me figure out what the heck is
>going on.  Can some kind soul take my hand and walk me through this?
>Thanks in advance.

I finally got this to work, but am still not sure what is going on.
Thanks to all who helped.  I posted another article, "LILO can't find
kernal ?" telling what I had to do.  Thanks again.
Don
From: mrd@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Mark Dobie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Corrupt 'tar' man page
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:41:58 GMT

In <1ip6mmINN70b@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:
>danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes:

>You can look for something that converts tex to troff format, but then you
>would have to install tex. Your best bet is to get the tar sources and see
>if there's a man page in them. Good bet that there is, since I have one
>on line, and I installed tar myself.

Alternatively you can try xinfo, which is a texinfo viewer that runs under
X windows. This preserves the "hypertext" links in the texinfo file,
although I find these can get in the way when reading the stuff.

Anyway, it should be in all X11 contrib archives and is definitely in
contrib/xinfo.tar.Z on export.lcs.mit.edu. I had no problems building
and running it with linux.

Texinfo files are the only comprehensive documentation for some GNU
utilities. In particular, I needed them for some recent work with bison
and flex.

				Mark.
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University of Southampton		M.R.Dobie@ecs.soton.ac.uk (The World)
From: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A few misc questions,
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:01:52 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts) writes:

>So could we have either a) some pointers to a newbie's guide to TCP/IP or b)
>some really simpleton instructions we can follow to get a working loopback
>system, with which we can then tinker and learn that way.

There is a general introduction to TCP/IP on athos.rutgers.edu, in
/runet/tcp-ip-intro.doc and .ps (.doc is ASCII, .ps is Postscript).  A
followon document explains how to set up TCP/IP networks.  It's
/runet/tcp-ip-admin.doc and .ps.  (Note that it deal with
architectural issues in building something like a campus network.
It's not intended to tell you how to set up networking on a single
system, though knowing the information in it may help you make sense
of programs like ifconfig and route.)

These documents are now a couple of years old, so there are newer
RFC's than those described in them.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Alex Kambis <kambis@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov>
Subject: need Xconfig for Diamond Speedstar
Reply-To: kambis@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:47:31 GMT


ok, I know you're out there.....
seriously, could one of you with a Gateway2000, CrystalScan1024ni, and
the Dreaded Diamond Speedstar video card email me your Xconfig file?
Thanks In Advance,

Alex.
kambis@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: new correction to jump-4.2.TZ
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:25:08 GMT

Please use this patch for jump-4.2.TZ. The previous one has a bug.

H.J.
-------
*** /tmp/Makefile	Tue Jan  5 00:20:57 1993
--- shlib/jump/Makefile	Tue Jan  5 10:23:49 1993
***************
*** 396,402 ****
  	done
  	# The following is necessary because the "text file" may be active.
  	-if [ -f $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CSHLIB) ]; then \
! 	  mv $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CSHLIB) $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CSHLIB).old; \
  	fi
  	cp $(CSHLIB) $(IMAGEDIR)
  
--- 396,406 ----
  	done
  	# The following is necessary because the "text file" may be active.
  	-if [ -f $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CSHLIB) ]; then \
! 	  cp $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CSHLIB) $(IMAGEDIR)/libc.so.old; \
! 	  if [ -f $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CLOADSHLIB) ]; then \
! 	    ln -fs $(IMAGEDIR)/libc.so.old $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CLOADSHLIB); \
! 	  fi; \
! 	  mv $(IMAGEDIR)/$(CSHLIB) $(IMAGEDIR)/foo; \
  	fi
  	cp $(CSHLIB) $(IMAGEDIR)
  



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: johnsonm@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Subject: Re: proc 'w' command
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN  USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:59:47 GMT


   Can someone please specifically direct me where to find
   the 'w' command that works with proc?  It seems to be 
   absent from the procps.taz package.

It's not there 'cause I didn't write it.  Things like that (plus no
docs :-() are why it's in the BETA subdirectory.

I'll write it if I have time, or someone else can.  I never use it, so
I didn't bother ;-)

michaelkjohnson
From: jmorriso@ee.ubc.ca (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: Quota daemon for Linux?
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:57:09 GMT


IS there quota checking in Linux? Is it in the kernel, or is disk quota
checking done by a script?

Does anyone have any experience using Linux with mulitple users
(logged in at the same time, on ptys or ttys)? or do people normally
use Linux as a workstation?

thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Philip Rhoades)
Subject: Repost of swapper/scsi(?) boot problem 0.98.5, 0.99.2
Summary: Still have boot problem on newly created SLS boot disk
Keywords: boot problem swapper scsi 0.98.5 0.99.2
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:21:03 GMT

This is a repost of a previous problem - there was no posted solution
and my mail to the person bounced. I have the same problem with both the
SLS 0.98.5 created boot disk and a new boot disk from 0.99.2:

Last week I've tried to upgrade to 98p6 by recompiling the new kernel and
making a new bootdisk (yes, I don not use Lilo) ... compiling was fine, but
when I tried to boot from the new disk I've got the following:

	(after recognizing my SCSI disk correctly ...)
	general protection: 0000
	EIP: 0008:0004C461
	EFLAGS: 00010286
	fs: 0017
	base: C0000000, limit 000A0000
	PID: 0, process nr: 0
	C7 02 00 00 00 00 A1 68 FF 04
	task[0] (swapper) killed - unable to recover
	kernel panic: trying to free up swapper memory space
	in swapper task - not syncing

Then it all halts ... I've tried the 99 version, too - with the same
result. But I can boot it from my old 98p5 bootdisk ...

Is there a way to get 98p6 or 99 running ? My machine is a 486 with 
8 meg RAM and a SCSI disk on an AHA1542B

Please, is there any solution ? Maybe something has changed for compiling
the kernel from 98p5 to 98p6 ? Any options etc. ?

Sven Kuehne                        Technische Universitaet Braunschweig
c0033010@ws.rz.tu-bs.de            Rechenzentrum

- Anyone have a solution to Sven and my problems?

Thanks for any help.

-- 
Philip Rhoades
First Year Biology
University of Sydney
phil@biox.bio.su.OZ.AU or philipr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
From: sens@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Sunando Sen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Small problem with gccdisk
Summary: /usr/bin/gcc needs to be updated
Keywords: gcc-2.3.3, gccdisk
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:11:53 GMT
Organization: New York University

I had a small problem while installing gcc-2.3.3 from H. J. Liu's
gccdisk. Whenever I tried to invoke gcc, I was getting the following
message :

gcc: installation problem, cannot exec cpp: No such file or directory

even though /lib/cpp is a soft link to /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.3.3/cpp.
On the other hand, gcc -V 2.3.3 worked.  I think the /usr/bin/gcc
binary has been left over from the old distribution.  If you look at
the listing of /usr/bin from Disk1 of gccdisk, you will see that it is
identical to the one from gcc-2.2.2d distribution:

-rwxr-xr-x   1 bin      bin         37888 Oct 17 21:52 gcc

In any case, I just opened gcc with emacs and replaced the string
"2.2.2" with the string "2.3.3" (it occurs in only one place).  It
seems to work now.

  On a related note, the disk3 of the previous version of basedisk contained 
all the binaries in /bin, the new version contains all the binaries in /usr/
bin.  So, after upgrading I ended up with two copies of the binutils 
package.  In fact the binaries haven't changed at all, they are identical to 
the older ones (does it matter?).  Thanks to H. J. Liu, upgrading Linux so 
far has been extremely painless.

Sincerely,

Sunando Sen
sens@fasecon.econ.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: Telebit Worldblazer with uugetty?
Organization: R-node Public Access Unix - 1 416 249 5366
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:08:55 GMT

Hi...

	Has anyone written a /etc/default/uugetty.ttys?? file for
a Telebit Worldblazer?  I can get it to dial out, but still can't
get it to answer the phone? :(

Thanks...

Marc
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,rec.games.hack
From: hymowitz@circle.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Subject: color hack for linux - trying to fix...
Reply-To: hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:29:06 GMT

hello there... i'm not sure which of theset wo groups can help more, so...

i have nethack 3.0i for linux, and i want to get color.  i used this
advice...

>At compile time:
> 1) #define TEXTCOLOR in include/unixconf.h
> 2) if you're using TERMINFO, that's it; however, if you're using TERMCAP,
>    then you'll need to modify src/termcap.c.  Change the source code at the
>    very last routine so that it reads ``# if 0'' instead of ``# ifdef UNIX''.
>    You need the non-Unix version of function init_hilite() since that Unix
>    version supports TERMINFO only.
>At run time:
> 3) enable both "color" and "standout" in NETHACKOPTIONS or with the 'O'
>    command.  Neglecting to set "standout" is a fairly common problem.
>
>     I have no idea whether Linux uses terminfo or termcap or both, so
>can't advise about step #2, but your Makefile is already choosing one or
>the other.
>		Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu

it uses termcap.

this worked great, as a  start.  the problem is there's too /much/ color.
for example, when it prints a green character, /everything/ is green until
it hits a blue character, then /everything/ is blue until ...

so i'm hoping to find the color-print routine so i can tell it to print
a 'no-color' (\033[0m) afterwards.  but i don't even know where to begin
looking.  (well, i began with decl.c, pri.c and termcap.c which include the
color function called hilites, but i'm stuck from there)

can anybody offer insight?  thanx in advance.

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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but minus several million for good thinking, yeah?          --Zaphod Beeblebrox
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From: sundaram@egr.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: HELP: Problems with adding users ....
Date: 5 Jan 1993 07:08:40 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: eecae.ee.msu.edu


Hi,

I just installed the SLS 0.99 release and am having troubles adding users.
I add users using:
	useradd  ...
	chpasswd ...

and lo, the user is created and I have managed to set their passwd. 

BUT, I cannot "finger" them, nor can they use elm etc... and they cannot 
reset thier passwords and moreover, I cannot do a 'su'. I get a invalid uid
or cannot find uid error meessage. 

I do not know whether this is a linux problem, or something in the way I tried
adding the users. I do not have the adduser program, and I do not have any 
knowledge of how to run the 'mkpasswd' program that is supposed to be run after
adding users. 

Thanks

Divya
(sundaram@egr.msu.edu)



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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: cross-compiling (gcc-2.3.3)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 00:27:42 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter F. Couvares) writes:

>	While compiling gcc-2.3.3 for a Sparcstation this week, I
>realized how easy it is to compile a cross-compiler for any of the
>systems gcc "knows" about. Unfortunately, Linux is not one of
>these. Does anyone (H.J. maybe?) have the necessary config files so
>gcc can create a cross-compiler as usual, or is the process more
>involved in Linux's case?

>-Peter

Gcc 2.3.3 does understand linux. IF you configure --target=i386-linux
if compiles just fine. I have been compiling gcc for linux out of the box 
since about August.

James
From: dingbat@diku.dk (Niels Skov Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: libg++.a problem with Regex.o
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:30:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Hi, 

A slight problem with g++ 2.3.3 and the latest libs and the binutils
found on the latest hlu base disks.

When I compile this program:

// tst.cc
#include <iostream.h>
#include <String.h>

main()
{
        String a("a string");

        cout << "String a contains : " << a << "\n";

        return 0;
}

like this:

# g++ -nojump tst.cc

ld gives me these errors:

/usr/lib/libg++.a(Regex.o):
Undefined symbol re_compile_pattern(const char *, int, re_pattern_buffer *)
referenced from text segment

/usr/lib/libg++.a(Regex.o):
Undefined symbol re_compile_fastmap(re_pattern_buffer *)
referenced from text segment

/usr/lib/libg++.a(Regex.o):
Undefined symbol re_search_2(re_pattern_buffer *, const char *, int,
const char *, int, int, int, re_registers *, int)
referenced from text segment

/usr/lib/libg++.a(Regex.o):
Undefined symbol re_match_2(re_pattern_buffer *, const char *, int,
const char *, int, int, re_registers *, int)
referenced from text segment

I have checked that these symbols are in fact in libg++.a with
nm.

What am I missing here?

Niels