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From: bjacobs@chopin.udel.edu (William J Jacobs)
Subject: Re: asteroids beyond Jupiter
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 01:40:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.203536.6699@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>gwc@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Greg F Walz Chojnacki) writes:
>: 
>: Although it might seem like I'm paying out rope here, I'm curious about the
>: usage of the terms "asteroid" and "planetoid." Bill, since yours is the first
>: time I saw the distinction made, care to define these? (I hope it's more than
>: asteroids being those things that lie where asteroids were first discovered.)
>
>Nope, that is the distinction I use. Whether it is currently the accepted
>definition is another matter. I define an asteroid to be a body that 
>originated in the asteroid belt - others are planetoids or "minor bodies"
>or comets etc.
>
>Flame away, if you wish. My asbestos underwear, while well charred, is still
>functional.
>
>Bill

Just for the record, before we drop this thread entirely, the Illustrated
Encyclopedia of Astronomy and Space defines an asteroid as "A small rocky
body moving in an elliptical orbit around the Sun; asteroids are also called
minor planets"  An asteroid that is currently orbiting within the asteroid
belt is called a "belt asteroid", naturally enough, one that is orbiting in
the orbit of Jupiter is called a "Trojan asteroid", "Apollo" and "Amor"
asteroids are in elliptical orbits that have perihelion within the inner
planets orbits (perihelion = closest aproach to the Sun).  Planetoid is not
an accepted term in Astronomy.

A comet that got perturbed out of the Oort cloud and reperturbed into a near
circular orbit  could be rightfully called a minor planet, but wouldn't be
called an asteroid because it's a chunk of ice not a rock.  A pretty good
example of this is Chiron (not to be confused with Charon).

That clear?  Good.

Bill Jacobs
who really doesn't know much more than you do on the subject, but happens to
be sitting not 10 yards from an Astronomical library 


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From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
Subject: Re: 'Springfield' is NOT a city in all states!
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:41:16 GMT

Jonathan Papai (PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu) writes:

        Multiple townships with the same name in one state is
>common.  In Ohio, there are at least 20 of Washington, Jefferson,
>Adams townships, along with lots of other dead white men, as well
>as a lot of dead Indians having n>1 townships named after them.

	And in Virginia, there are _two_ Richmonds!

	I should add that in Virginia, cities are politically separate
from counties. So there is the City of Richmond in central VA, and
Richmond County which is (I think) on the Chesapeake Bay.

ObUL. Ummm, oh... Richmond does have the _real_ Santa Claus. Went to
see him over break too.

Tep
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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Thawing food in cold water
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:50:10 GMT

OK...here's one I can't remember seeing in the
enormously-huge-sorry-I-don't-have-seven-days-to-read-it-FAQ

My wife says food thaws quicker when immersed in cold water, as
opposed to thawing it just sitting in the air.

I think my wife's been sitting in too much cold water recently. (OK,
she says that's mean..she's reading this over my shoulder. Sorry
dear.)

What say ye? Does food thaw quicker in cold water or just in the air?

Eagerly awaiting answers. Our dinner depends on it.

Michael
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 22:33:00 EST
From: <MIWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject:    Skyscraper FALLS DOWN.

     Can this be substantiated? I read in an architectural trade mag that
the World Trade Center is extremely unstable due to the fact that it is built
on landfill. While putting the two buildings up, one of the unfinished
structures was so unstable the chief engineer feared it would actually
fall over on its side.
     Now, I know that the complex never actually was able to anchor itself
into bedrock like the Empire State Building was and that the sidewalks and
streets around the building show extreme signs of stress from torsion of the
moving and relatively unsecured complex.
     BUT, can one of them actually fall down? The thought of a mountain
of steel, glass, office equipment and attourneys splatting all over Battery
Park is terrifying, but somehow also strangely compelling.

                              --- Rick Yukon, the Mountaineer.
From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Federal Reserve Notes (Re: I Live to FAQ!)
Date: 3 Jan 93 03:10:36 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

>In article <1992Dec23.030920.6708@netcom.com> bml@netcom.com (Brian Leibowitz) writes:
>>500   McKinley         Ornate FIVE HUNDRED (discontinued 1969)
>>1000  Cleveland        Ornate ONE THOUSAN (discontinued 1969)
>>5000  Madison          Ornate FIVE THOUSAND (discontinued 1969)
>>10K   Chase            Ornate TEN THOUSAND (discontinued 1969)
>>100K  Wilson           ornate ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND (only used for transactions
>>               between the Federal Reserve System and the Treasury Department)

There's a fellow who has an exhibit of specimens of such bills.  He set up
his show at the North Carolina state fair a couple of years ago, right next
to the World's Smallest Horse, and charged 50 cents or a dollar for 
admission.  Check it out at your local carnival.
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From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: American Civil War Stuff
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:37:31 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

In article <1992Dec23.064632.27085@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec22.195845.18834@midway.uchicago.edu> cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec19.222536.19404@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>>>>ObUL2: A newsgroup actually exists that discusses ONLY this kind
>>>>of stuff.
>>>Gee, I knew I should do a better job of monitoring this newsgroup
>>>for cross-pollination.
>>
>Perhaps you could merrimac this news group too.

That's "virginia this news group too", if you please, dammit.

Joel "What _is_ it with these damnyankees, anyway?" Furr
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Subject: Re: Walking Between Rain Drops !!!!
From: mike@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Cosmik Debris)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:09:24 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec22.130327.8828@news.columbia.edu>, bs24@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce Sarte) writes:
> In article <BznAC9.DML@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> mike@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Cosmik Debris) writes: 
> >An umbrella solves the problem.
> 
> 	What is this "umbrella" thing ???
>  
> 

It is stick thing with a spike on one end. You ram it up your arse and you forget
all about going out in the rain.

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Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:31:04 -0500 
From: "Stephen M. Lacy" <sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Liquid Nitrogen to defeat The Club (was: where to buy a CLUB ...)

Excerpts from netnews.alt.folklore.urban: 22-Dec-92 Re: Liquid Nitrogen
to defe.. by Bill Heiden@ent-img.com 
>  It works, I actually saw a demonstration on television.  The whole point
> of the demonstration was that the "Club" is not the perfect theft
> prevention device, but rather a deterrent.  If a thief wants to steal
> your car, the "Club" will add a couple of minutes to the time it takes
> to rip it off.  

On an offbeat -- since the Club is a theft deterrant, then there is no
need to lock the darn thing.  i.e. from the outside, you can't tell if
its locked or not, so it is going to work either way.   If the thief
sees your club and still breaks in, then he/she knows how to get through
one and it really doesn't matter if its locked or not, does it?

Steve


"We're too young to reason, and too old to dream." -Roxy Music
From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: African-American-top
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:30:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Dec31.140618.15453@panix.com>, ilaine@panix.com (Liz Stokes) writes:
>In article <mjenkins.725757417@cunews> mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>>Anyone else heard this one before?
>
>	I heard a similar story about a newspaper that always replaced 

Heck, I have _evidence_ of a similar story.

See, there's this pornographic book I have (called _Mindy's Orgy_)
which, on first reading, seemss very strange. If one reads it
carefully, the reason becomes clear: It was originally about a male,
but someone used a search-and-replace to make it about a female.

They didn't search-and-replace very well. They keep referring to
various characters by the wrong pronoun, mentioning inappropriate
genitalia . . .

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley
   (Quotes available on request)

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From: vince@cadence.com (Vince Gibboni)
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:44:27 GMT

matthews@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Matt Sullivan) writes:
>kasprj@rpi.edu writes:
>pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers) writes:
>>|> 
>>|> Yes, this is funny ('least I have always felt so), but Rush Limbaugh
>>|> claims that in Lowell, CT, they (the town council) have actually taken
>>|> it upon themselves to remove these signs because they are potentially
>>|> offensive (read, "not PC").  This story sounds pretty ULish to me.
>> 
> True. Only 10 States have a Lowell in them. None are CT. Mass does,
> however, have a Lowell. Anybody from U.Mass Lowell on here? Care to
> verify/deny these signs?


    Well, I work in Lowell (Mass), and can safely say that one of Lowell's 
    few redeeming characteristics is that it is not one bit Politically 
    Correct (the other one is that it's not in New Jersey). This is a city
    that, because a lot of people in it don't speak English, has adopted
    English as its official language. Lowell is a city where (and I'm
    not making this up) a defendent in a murder trial testified that he 
    could not possibly have committed the crime because he was busy stabbing 
    someone else at the time. It's the kind of place where guys in plaid 
    flannel shirts who haven't shaved since the Eisenhower administration 
    proudly drive '72 Dodge Chargers with one red and one yellow door 
    and a big American flag on the back window. In other words, it's the kind 
    of place where people listen to Rush Limbaugh...


--
                                                         vince@gda.cadence.com

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        - John Lennon
From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Late breaking potential UL!
Date: 30 Dec 92 00:39:23 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Dec30.002236.10792@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>Jon "Did Chelsea take Spanish before naming her cat S O C K S?" Papai

Oh very good, bravo!!  And speaking of that horrid commercial (I see
you stay up all night listening to NewsRadio88 too), has anyone noticed
that the original version of the commercial stated that "S O C K S"
("eso si que es") means "that's what I want" in Spanish?  Now it's
translated as "that's what it is".

Questions: "Eso si que es" doesn't mean "that's what I want", does it?
If not, how in the heck does a language-teaching institute get away
with claiming that it does and still stay in business?  There must be
some ULs associated with this change in the commercial's wording --
preferably ULs involving Generalissimo Franco.

Bruce "If German gloves are Handschuhen, what are Hand Sachs?" Tindall
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From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: AFU Flan Cub
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:50:04 GMT
 <1992Dec22.213606.22305@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1992Dec22.214520.22380@midway.uchicago.edu>
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In article <1992Dec22.214520.22380@midway.uchicago.edu>, Ted Frank writes:

> In article <1992Dec22.213606.22305@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
> >BTW-why is this in AFU?  What is flan?
> 
> Flan is sort of like lutefisk, only with more sugar.  If Cynthia Kandolf
> was still alive, rest her soul, she could tell you all about it.

     I realize this is off the subject, but what happened to
Cindy?  (I've been away for a while)

Rose
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From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:10:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Dec21.070423.25903@ulysses.att.com>, smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
>In article <3080@israel.nysernet.org>, warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:
>> In <42578@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins) writes:
>> 
>> >>	Bob "just one of the 'Dips'" O'Brien
>> 

All together now, "Please be sure to check the attribution against
the signature . . ."

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley
   (Not now, nor have I ever been, one of the 'Dips')
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From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: Oscillation of skyscrapers
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:10:16 GMT

PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
>ivanra@microsoft.com (Ivan Rancati) ponders:
>>I heard that high buildings move a bit because
>>of the wind (1-2 meters in the top).
>>Does any wise on the net know some detail about
>>concrete (i.e. Empire State Building) and metal
>>(i.e. Tour Eiffel)?

TRUE - as a matter of fact, the CN tower (worlds largest free-standing
building, worlds most over-priced restaurant) in Toronto has a display on
the ground showing the real-time movement of the top.  I think it's more on
the order of feet than metres, though.  Kinda neat how they do the display -
a laser shining up the hollow core of the building, a sensor arrow (ccd I
think) on the top.

>The Empire State Bldg. is a steel structure.  All skyscrapers
>have steel as the significant load bearing members.

CN tower is post-tensioned pre-stressed concrete, but then it's a tower, not
a skyscraper.

>ObUL:  Some important buildings in quake prone areas are supported
>on fat rubber shock absorbers.
Most, in fact.  One of my class-mates (University of Waterloo, Civil
Engineering 1985) did his masters work with a research company in Japan doing
active earthquake damping - shoving big wieghts around in the tops of
buildings to counteract the effects of the building moving.

ObUL: The process of revolving a restaurant causes the cost of the food to
go up by 20%, and the quality to go down 15%

-- 
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(This is not an official opinion/statement of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
Anybody who doesn't wear a helmet when biking probably _will_ have their head
examined - by a coroner
From: wichers@husc4.harvard.edu (JJJJJust JJJJJohn)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: little girl embedded in grille (was: Re: I Li
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:41:20 GMT
Organization: The Harvard Lymph Node Fan Club

In article <1992Dec23.145721.9155@tellab5.tellabs.com> doug@tellabs.com (Doug David) writes:
>When I was in High School (Late 70s), a FRIEND OF MINE (not a FOAF) was
>driving home late one night and as he broke over a hill he hit an elderly
>woman who was walking on the road. He killed her. He freaked out and
>instead of stopping, he went home. The next day the news all over town was
>about a hit and run accident which killed an old lady. Anyway, when my
>friend's father came home from work, he discovered blood and some flesh
>on the front of my friend's car. He had heard the news earlier and he
>made my friend turn himself in. He got into some serious trouble for
>leaving the scene of the accident. 

He got in serious trouble for leaving the scene of an accident? As opposed
to getting in trouble for wasting a little old lady? I can see the trial
now:

	"You have been found guilty of all the charges. For the crime of
	manslaughter [or would that be littleoldladyslaughter?], you are
	hereby fined $100. For leaving the scene of an accident, you
	foul, worthless miscreant, you are sentenced to hang by the neck
	until dead. Next!"

--John "speed bump" Wichers

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From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Dead Cat - other stolen object
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:55:20 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

How about other weird stolen objects?

In the summer of '78, my friend Eric and I were the sole
employees of a bicycle shop in Oakland, CA.  The place
did not have a functioning toilet, and after a while,
the nearby restaurant owner got really tired of us.

Somehow, we got the bright idea of peeing into our
empty milk cartons, though disposing of them was a
precarious matter.  One evening, Eric put his pee-filled
milk carton on the sidewalk just outside the front door.
When we got to work the next day, it was gone.

We continued this practice on an almost daily basis
for the rest of the summer, and without fail the tainted
cartons would disappear.  We never did figure out who
took them or why.
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: asteroids beyond Jupiter
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:35:36 GMT

gwc@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Greg F Walz Chojnacki) writes:
: 
: Although it might seem like I'm paying out rope here, I'm curious about the
: usage of the terms "asteroid" and "planetoid." Bill, since yours is the first
: time I saw the distinction made, care to define these? (I hope it's more than
: asteroids being those things that lie where asteroids were first discovered.)

Nope, that is the distinction I use. Whether it is currently the accepted
definition is another matter. I define an asteroid to be a body that 
originated in the asteroid belt - others are planetoids or "minor bodies"
or comets etc.

Flame away, if you wish. My asbestos underwear, while well charred, is still
functional.

Bill
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The El (Was: Re: Conductivity of water <plus a story from Uncle Dave>)
Date: 22 Dec 1992 07:03:21 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley) wrote:
  +
  +>WEl I haven't been there since '79 and the brain tends to wipe out
  +>unpleasant memories!  I was undecided as to whether it was "L" or
  +>"El" - did it stand for "Electric" or "Elevated" or  "Loupe"
  +>as in "The Loupe".  For those of you that don't know, "The Loupe"
  +>is the downtown area of Chicago.

so madden@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Paul Q Madden) writes:
  +
  +I grep'ed for a smiley and didn't find one, so i can only assume
  +this is serious. S

Now why would you do something like that?

Terry "Now grepping for 'Kibo', THAT makes sense" Chan
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Cheese popcorn
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:08:48 GMT


>>BTW-why is this in AFU?  What is flan?
>                                  ^^^^

It's some sort of Mexican dessert.  I found this out some months ago when the
movie pickings were slim and I went to see "Leaving Normal".  Flan in a can.
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Judge Learned Hand
Keywords: teach a man to fish and he will take the day off.
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:07:15 GMT

In article <ljf7cjINN174@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:
>The last time Judge Learned Hand came up, I went to the library
>looked him up, and subsequently wrote this mini-bio.  Here it is again.
>(and astonishingly, almost 2.5 years since the topic last arose!)

Does Judge Learned Hand have anything to do with the character played by
Martin Landau on Mission: Impossible?

cj "this message will self-destruct in 5 seconds" l
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