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From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Pointer to Mark Mothersbaugh
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:48:54 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <1992Aug11.212832.6210@ttinews.tti.com> sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (sorgatz) writes:
> It recently (8/9) came to my attention that the music for the 'Nickelodian'
>cartoon series "Rugrats" is being done by the ole DEVO man himself. The cartoon
>actually sucks IMHO, but some of the music is quite chic and laughable. Some
>of you might remember that Mothersbaugh also did the theme music for MTV's hit
>animation show "Liquid Television", he was a collaborator on the music for
>"Aeon Flux" as well. (Are we not men? We are DEVO!  D-E-V-O!)

Mark also wrote some of the music in Pee Wee's Playhouse.  Does anyone know
specifically what he wrote?  I recognize the closing music (after the credits)
as absolutely his style. Did he write the opening music too?

He also did the music for the incredibly lame Mann & Machine.  After two
episodes I thought it was the worst music he'd ever done.  

one spud on the lookout for a real fresh tomato

ferenc
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From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: Need Info on building drum trigger (Octapad)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:25:56 CST
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

cliffw@sequent.com (Cliff White) writes:
> 
> I have an old Roland Octapad, and i'm building a trigger
> to use with it. 
> I am using your basic Radio Shack peizo buzzer, but
> the unit false triggers quite a bit, so i think i am missing
> 
> I believe this subject came up a while back on one of these
> groups, but alas, no archive have i.
> 
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the false triggering could be taken 
care of by directing the output of the trigger to a Comparator circuit.  
One side of the comparator, would be your trigger, and the other side 
would be hooked up to a pot, and voltage, to give you a Threshold level.
 
Five


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Myles Wakeham <mylesw@amgen.com>
Subject: Anybody used a Kawai K3R before?
Organization: Amgen Inc.
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:00:19 GMT

Hi.  The piano store around the corner from me recently is dumping
a bunch of MIDI items and one of them is a Kawai K3R unit.  I am
looking to upgrade my MT32 with a 16 bit sound module for more
"production" oriented projects and am looking for something with
a bit more oomph at a reasonable price.

The guy at the store is willing to deal on this unit, but before 
I make an offer I was wondering if anybody out there is using
such a unit or if anybody has any comments about it.

Thanks in advance

Myles
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From: davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.dsp,comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: AUDIO-CD READING ?
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:50:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1992Aug18.214340.14362@smsc.sony.com> dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) writes:

>I also suspect that there's a legal timidity on the part of most
>companies to provide this ability.  Being able to grab the data from an
>audio CD digitally is technically enticing, and the legitimate/legal
>uses of this are fairly rare (in other words, it's pretty likely that
>you are wanting to get the music into your computer so you can play it
>back, which is illegal in most cases).

Well is it really illegal ? Think what happens when you play a CD in a domestic
CD player. As long as the data is not getting used more than once at the same
time, then it ain't exactly illegal.

It is about time someone got their act together and wrote down definate
rules about copyright of digital music.  I once wrote to some copyright
officials and basically their replay was to the effect of ' ask someone
in your law dept to do a case study on the subject for a couple of
years'. 

Davei
From: williams8572@iscsvax.uni.edu (fEAR AND lOATHING IN cEDAR fALLS)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: SBP, SY85, and other delights
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:24:29 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hello,
   I am going to buy a synth in the near future and was wondering if anyone had
any luck whatsoever using the Soundblaster Pro as a sampler.  The dealer I do
business with has used the new SY85 and says it will make an excellent sample
playback tool (via midi dump, not through direct sampling) so I will need to
get a smpler to use with it.  I have lloked at some Akai(sp?) samplers and they
look all right but I truly would like to use my SBP as a kind of low end
temporary smpler unitl I can afford a better one.  DOes this sound feasible? 
Should I just get a sampler/keyboard and say to hell with this route?  Any help
would be nice.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Mark Mothersbaugh - What KEYBOARDS did DEVO use in their CLASSIC days?
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:27:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.074318.15840@intacc.uucp>
zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) writes:
 
>In article <1992Aug12.135045.22074@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (Chuckorama) writes:
>>Does anyone know what keyboards DEVO used in their classic era ("Freedom of
>>Choice" - anything including and prior to "Oh NO, IT's DEVO")
>>
>
>I'd call 'classic' DEVO the stuff from the 70's, so I'll tell about
>their synth stuff from all three eras.
 
Here here! I would have posted earlier, but I had some trouble with the
doubletalk generator. ;-)
>
>CLASSIC DEVO: '74 - '79
>
>EML WASP, YAMAHA CS80, MINIMOOG, SCI PROPHET 5, EML GNAT(?)
 
They had a programmer for the mini, they also used an arp omni, PAIA modules
(I'm talking early stuff here!) muson, honer clavinet, Roland microcomposer, &
some weird box that could generate chords out of monophonic voltage controlled
synths.
 
>Jim Mothersbaugh, who quit the band around '77 (replaced by drummer
>Alan Myers), built a lot of home-made doodads including a very
>early drum pad system.  The above equipment was actually attained
>more or less in the later '70s (obviously with the Pro 5)
>
>MIDDLE DEVO: '80 - '83
>
>Jim Mothersbaugh got a job at Roland (eventually as a chief engineer
>for the US branch).  So DEVO aquired a LOT of Roland gear.
>Prophet 5 (still), Roland Jupiter 8, SH100, MC4 sequencer, vocoder/strings
>Linn LM1 drumcomputer, Moog Source.
I'm pretty sure the used a Memory Moog and a Phophet 10 as well.
>
>LATE DEVO: '84 - '90 (the tinnier, brittle, digital years)
>
>Fairlight CMI II, Roland D50, S50, Fairlight CMI III.
>
>I'm including stuff that was apparent from live use and on video.  THey
>actually had way more stuff that was not used live (especially in the
>later years).  Please correct any glaring errors
 
You did an excellent job. Roland made a cute electronic autoharp that made
it to TV appearances (_That's Good_ on Letterman, I recall).
I don't know if it made it to record.
>
>Especially in later years, they often had multiple instruments (I
>spotted 2 D50s/S50s live).
>
>Duty Now For The Future
>
>ferenc
>
Be Stiff
--Eric
From: pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu (Patrick Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Flaming problem (was Re: ensoniq SD1-32 vs.....)
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:30:58 GMT

> In article <NICK.92Aug21121343@vaila.ed.ac.uk> nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick  
Rothwell) writes:
> >Never has a falser word been spoken.

Eric Tsang writes:
> Actually I really don't mind
> people say "You are wrong!!" or "This is not TRUE!!" but as least
> you say why it is wrong.  By just putting a sentence here has no
> respect to the poster.

You haven't been reading this group for very long, have you?

> ...My 
> words are not always true(especially because I am a beginner), but
> I would like to know and learn more,...

Might I suggest that you read the group for a while before you jump
to such hasty conclusions as "he has no respect for the poster".  Nick's
(often lengthy) articles have been among the most informative and
enjoyable of any I've read in *any* USENET group.

If he seems a bit caustic once in a while, just remember... he lives
in Scotland.  ;-}

-Patrick
 pgr@ramandu.ext.vt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Sampler Ed/Lib for Mac or Atari
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:11:25 GMT


Can someone give some suggestions - I'm looking for a Universal
Sample Editor/Librarian. I have a Roland S-330 and like some of
the samples and so want to save them before I sell it and get a
K-2000.

For the Mac there is of course Sound Designer, Alchemy, etc. and
for the Atari : Sound Designer, Avalon, etc.. There are several versions
of Sound Designer - can someone explain the differences ? I'd like
to hear any good or bad experiences and any reccomendations you
might have. Email or post it since others may be interested.

Thanks !


cheers,


Shiv
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.dsp,comp.sys.hp
From: cnwietho@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Carsten Wiethoff)
Subject: Re: AUDIO-CD READING ?
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:48:17 GMT

>>I have been told that the CDrom drive sold with the SGI Indigo really
>>can read the audio tracks over the SCSI interface, due to a changed
>>firmware in the CDrom drive. Technically speaking this should
>>be possible with any CDrom drive given the right firmware.
> 
> Yes, the SGI CD-ROM drive can indeed read the audio tracks as data and send
> it over the SCSI bus. As far as a simple firmware change being required, I
> was told a different story: it seems that the standard encoding method for
> audio and data tracks specify different error-correction codes (a good thing).
> So it seems that on most drives, the output of the audio ECC circuitry is
> only connected to the DAC which drives the headphone output: thus there
> is actually no path from the output of the audio ECC circuitry to the SCSI
> bus. Does this make any sense?

Can the SGI CD-ROM drive be used as a replacement for the SUN CDrom
on a Sparcstation? Would the Sparcstation be able to boot from it?
What is the price tag on it?

Carsten Wiethoff (cnwietho@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de)
From: idealord@DORSAI.COM (Jeff Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Radio Shows Which Program Experimental Music - Addresses?
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:53:39 GMT
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If you have any addresses of radio stations which program electronic
or experimental music I would love to have them.  I'll repost any info
I receive.  Seems like last year someone posted a listing of alternative rock
station addresses (mostly college radio).  Anything like that?

Jeff Harrington
idealord@dorsai.com

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From: sef@sef-pmax.slisp.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Tell me about the
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:51:51 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


    From: lawrence.lougheed@rose.com (lawrence lougheed)
    
    Can you add both optional (K2000) 8M ROM banks at once, or only one at
    a time? 

Both at once.  The first bank should be released pretty soon, and will be
mostly orchestral sounds.  The second seems to be much farther off, and
nobody seems to know what will be in it.

-- Scott
===========================================================================
Scott E. Fahlman
School of Computer Science
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213

Internet: sef+@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young)
Subject: Re: New specs of Atari Falcon (500 Pounds)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:01:25 GMT

In article <eJ2LPB3w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>
>Let's just see Atari screw things up and not use standard SIMMS... naaa.. 
>they wouldn't do that... perhaps a 8 MB RAM limitation? Naaa... ok, back 
>to work
><X>

Apple LC has terrible ram waste and limits but Falcons can use almost
twice as much memory (14-16 Megabytes).

Maybe if Apple put in DSP, Blitter, IDE, video overlay, local interface slots,
DMA 16 and 8 bit stereo sound, MIDI, 4 joystick,...and included OS with
memory protection and preemptive multitasking and priced under $1000
you would be calling it A MIRACLE!!

Many developers will sell ram boards for a low price.  Wait until Atari
show in Germany is finished and all information is out please!

 

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:07:45 MET
From:         Doumen Jan <jqdoumen@VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Heldon - Richard Pinhas

Hi all,

I've just dropped an interview with Richard Pinhas, the great, at
cs.uwp.edu. It was recently made in Paris by members of KLEM-Belgium.
You can find it in /pub/music/incomming/interviews or later in
/pub/music/interviews.
If you don't have ftp acces please mail me and I will sent it to you.


Go and tell it to everybody. Spread the news. An exclusive interview
now available. For FREE.

DeJean.
From: ITB650CLOW@redgum.qut.edu.au (The Bard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: K2000 < analog
Date: 18 Aug 1992 05:22:00 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

DISCLAIMER.
I am not an analog guru.

QUESTION.
I've heard some "what I think is" pretty cool analog noises coming from a VERY
basic FM synth. (I don't think its even got filters).

I've played the presets on the K2000, and I think most of them are pretty 
useless (I'm not into imitating instruments), but I know the specs of the 
machine are most excellant.  

Okay K2000 owners (that includes you John) how does this machine handle these
and more analogish sounds?

P.S.  John, I think you said you had a Kawai M6000 (or whatever number it is)
      88 key weighted controller.  What do use to generate your piano sound?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Bard  equ  itb650clow@qut.edu.au

Every where I look, I can only see SPU  --  Sample Playback Units.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Drum machines
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:45:57 GMT

.UNH.EDU> D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby) writes:

   What drum machines do rap artists use (besides the TR-808) to get
   those sub-bass sounds? Also, what sorts of drum machines are used
   by current techno/house artists? Any information would be
   appreciated.

A sampler. 'nuff said.

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders)
Subject: Alesis SR-16 For Sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:23:04 GMT

Alesis SR-16 Drum Machine For Sale

- Perfect Condition
- Very Light Home Use Only
- 200+ 16-bit CD-Quality Sounds
- Velocity-Sensitive Pads
- 200 Patterns, 100 Songs
- Sys-Ex Send/Receive
- FSK Sync-to-Tape (Can be used to stripe and read FSK for MIDI system timing.)
- 4 Assignable Outputs (2 Stereo Pairs)
- Reason For Selling:  I'm using my EPS for rhythm sounds.

Obviously, I'm not anxious to sell this baby, but if you're pricing them new,
this is a bit of a discount.  It has worked flawlessly, and I expect it to 
continue to do so indefinitely.  For $275, I'll ship it to you COD. 
Organization: Computer Store, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:37:06 -0400 
From: Timothy Hillmer <th1j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: KORG Poly 800 docs?

I'm borrowing a friend's keyboard--KORG Poly 800--to do some music
notation.  He doesn't have the documentation anymore and I'm interested
in finding out more about the keyboard and electronic music. 
Specifically, I'd like to learn how to create new sounds (programming). 
As you can tell I'm a novice and am just beginning to learn about the
world of electronic music.

Does anyone have this documentation that I could get a copy of?

Thanks in advance.

Timothy


++++++++        Timothy Hillmer, CMU Computer Store 412/268-2636
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.compose
From: fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields)
Subject: Re: Help in Creating FINALE crescendos
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:26:49 GMT

Good for you in discovering the metatool mess.  Now look at your
pallettes and discover that you've created a bunch of copies of the
same structure.

executable shapes work by displacement from the current value.
thus if p is, say, 30 in your score, and you have a line sloping up
from 0 to 4 (=4 *288evpus=16 * 36 evpus), this line will cause
a graduation (changing every eighth note) up to veloc=46 (regardless
of the dynamic indicated on the note just after the cresc)
when the executable shape dialog box has 1s in its scale boxes.
So if you have crescendos of different lengths which make velocity
changes of different amounts, you'll have to develop different
executable shape definitions for each (although they might all
use the same shape i.d.---decrescendos could even use that
same shape i.d. with a negative scale-number in the definition).

You might find it easier to mess with the velocities of the notes
using the 'scale...' feature of the midi tool, which is also
notably arcane.

The easiest thing would probably be to export the midi without
cresendos into some sequencer and apply the crescendos there.

Note to everybody else: don't scramble to look up evpus.
Finale and Music Prose are the only places where they're used.

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: MICHAEL.ZACHERL@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Zacherl")
Subject: S1000 Disks --> K2000???
Reply-To: mza@pag.wang.co.at
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:48:33 EST

Hi Folks!
Considering a K2000 some questions came up for which I hopefully get
answers from (happy ;-) K2000 owners/users:
1)
Having access to many nice AKAI S1000 programs I wonder if the K2000 can
read *and* understand programs (with samples of course) from S1000 Disks.
2)
If so, what happens with stereosamples (i.e. two samples treated as stereo
in a program (S1000 has no 'stereo samples' just a stereo-sample-option))
3)
What's about looping? Is it possible to set looppoints? How many?

Thanks a lot!

/m
From: MRLCC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: DX100 transmits wierd sysex
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:34:12 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

The DX100 is not just sending a program mess. but also some form of patch or
sound data. At least this is what it sounds like. Most synths send the area
number that the sound is in and some patch data. Because I don't know more
about your synth in detail, I can only go on what other synths have done.
-------






MARC(MRLCC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cs_s437@ceres (Chris Eborn)
Subject: Microsoft PC/MIDI interface
Organization: Kingston University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:20:01 GMT

This weekend somebody told me that microsoft were going to release a
new all-singing all-dancing PC-MIDI interface Real Soon Now. Something
to do with their new multi-media stuff.
Anybody out there know about this? Is it worth waiting for?


El Kid-{A Talented Boy}-cs_s437@uk.ac.king****************************
******let the dog fornicating with your leg be a lesson-woj***********
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From: umak@atar.epps.kodak.com (Uma Krishnan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Teleconferencing/Video grabber
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:58:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: APS.1992Aug20.135858.29737
Reply-To: umak@atar.Atex.Kodak.COM
Distribution: na
Organization: Atex Publishing Systems, Inc.

I was wondering if there is a commercially avaliable/PD or University
research being done on teleconferencing (ie a single file being editted
by different users on the network)

We also need video grabber to transport real-time video windows
across the network.

The functionality that we need is akin to person-2-person on IBM OS/2
/utltimedia standards.

If anybody on the net has pointers to this, then could you please
message me. We would be interested in working in a manner, that is
advantageous to both of us.


Thanks a million in advance

Uma Krishnan
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: nsw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Neil Weinstock)
Subject: Wanted: Ultimate 2-tier A-frame keyboard stand
Organization: The Flying Squid Patrol
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:21:05 GMT

Subject says it all.  I'm looking for a used Ultimate Support Systems
2-tier A-frame keyboard stand.  Would prefer black but not critical.
Please email...

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From: doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House)
Subject: ucsd.edu patches: how to dump
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:51:43 GMT



I have downloaded the DX7 patches from ucsd, but they have no sysex
headers... I realize this saves space, but is there a program for an
IBM compatable that will incorporate the appropriate sysex info as
headers to these files and transmit them through the roland mpu-401?

What is the easiest way to do this?  I have about 7500 patches, and no
easy way (at present) to use them :)

Thanks a zillion!

-Doogie