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From: rriv@oural.inria.fr (Robert Riviere)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Windsurfing Hangover
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:36:49 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)

IMHO, certainly dehydratation is an important  factor.

But there is a thing which nobody said about, that's the fact that
sailing is in a certain manner a _static_ effort. ( In comparison to
other long-during sports like marathon, swimming, etc...)

I've read in a magazin to stretch yourself after a session. I try to
do it, and it's *true* it makes quite a lot of goodness.

Any advice or medical explanation ????

- 
Robert Riviere
Custom,Tiga,Art,Neil Pryde,North. No more Gaastra !
From: chip@midnight.seas.upenn.edu (Charles H. Buchholtz)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Windsurfing Hangover
Keywords: Hangover (dehydration)
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:53:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

bpaul@maths.tcd.ie (Barry Paul) writes:
>Does anyone else out there suffer from lethargy, dizzieness, 
>and headaches the morning after a long days blasting?

jmunkki@vipunen.hut.fi (Juri Munkki) writes:
>Drinking doesn't seem to help. I always have plenty of soft drinks at the
>beach and I usually return to shore every two hours or more often.

I've noticed similar symptoms just from spending a day in the sun.
I'm a mouth breather (due to chronic, mild alergies), and I also sweat
enough to form puddles if I stand still.  The combination of these two
traits make me very susceptible to dehydration.

I've found that drinking soft drinks may not help.  Some soft drinks
contain enough diarhetics (sp?), such as caffiene, that they do more
harm than good.  Suger and salt also affect the way your cells absorb
water.  

For me, straight water does the trick.  Sometimes I mix a little
gatoraid or fruit juice with the water, maybe one part juice to 3
parts water.

I used to come home from a day in the sun feeling very tired, and I'd
immediatly take a nap.  I discovered that I'd wake up in about an hour
feeling like a truck had run over me.

Now, I've learned to resist the urge to lie down, because I don't need
rest, I need *water*.  Sixteen ounces of water, and a cool or luke
warm shower completely removes the symptoms.  A friend of mine heard
from his doctor that cold or hot showers dehydrate the skin, but that
your skin will absorb luke warm or room temperature water.  I've
discovered that drinking alone doesn't work nearly as well as drinking
and a shower.

Hope this info helps someone!

-------------------------------------
                                   /
                                  ----------------------------> Chip
From: chatzi@beauty.asd.sgi.com (Chatzigianis Tony)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Windsurfing Hangover
Keywords: Hangover
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:51:18 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <12345@express>, beaudoin@Software.Mitel.COM (Richard Beaudoin) writes:
|> 
|> >but once I am out and the wind is up it is difficult to find the time to 
|> >return to shore and drink them! Does anybody have any solutions to this 
|> >problem other than increased self-discipline?
|>  
|> Would be nice to have someone waiting in chest high water with a cup of
|> water (or whatever) and hand you the drink as you jibe by (one handed jibe).
|> Like in a marathon.
|> 
|> 
	I have a better idea. Why can't someone install a cup holder on the boom
	or mast an carry his/her own drink(s) ? After all sailboats have that 
	That will force you to do smooth jibes as well.

-- 
*********************************************************
An eye for an eye		  Tony Chatzi
will make the world go blind      ASD Video x3418
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Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: hue@coney.island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Misc. ramblings
Originator: hue@coney
Organization: Island Graphics and Hot Tub Repair of Marin County
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:03:18 GMT


Well, I'm suffering from one of those windsurfing hangovers today.
I was on my 4.5 yesterday at Crissy Field, I was on a 4.5 on Tuesday
also.  It's been clear and sunny at Crissy Field this month, not foggy
at all in the afternoons, which is unusual.  I had been using my 5.5 and
6.0 a lot for the past two weeks, but Monday through Thursday of this
week have been 4.5 days.

On Sunday I was parked next to the owner of Sausilito sailboards and
overheard him telling somebody that there are 70 Mistral Explosions in
the U.S. right now and that he has five of them.

I finally got around to getting a 4.0 Prisma.  Steve Yong (City Front
Sailboards) sold me a '92 that belonged to the store for cost + $20,
which was about $330.  It had been used two or three times.

Yesterday I saw Trevor Baylis with what looked like a prototype Waddell
Race sail.  It was similar to a '92 Race, except it looked even twistier,
like a Neil Pryde, the foot wasn't rounded, and the top was sort of chopped
off, so it wasn't quite as tall, and was fatter in the head.  It was rigged
on a red label Fiberspar, I thought he still used flex-top on his race sails
so this may be something new for '93.  However, he was sailing with someone
who was on what looked like a '92 and that was on a red label Fiberspar also,
so I don't know what's going on there.


-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: pjp@sloth.mlb.semi.harris.com (Pat J. Pinchera)
Subject: Re: Forward Loops (was: shopping in Or)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:21:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Interface & Control Systems, Inc., Melbourne FL

In article <4576@verdix.verdix.com> cp@verdix.com (Chris Perret) writes:
 [stuff deleted]
>this year, but it's cuz the Wind God is mad at me. Tried my first forward
>sunday, didn't make it, tho I held on over the handlebars; it was a rush.
>
>
>Chris Perret

I want to hear more about this forward loop attempt.  I've read the
articles (not sure I'm crazy enough to try one) but these are written by
guys who do it all the time. I wan to hear from regular week-end
warriors who went for it.  What (in your opinion) level should one be at
before they make an attempt? Long jumps, really high jumps, table tops?
What are the things you *DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT* do when trying to loop?

Pat
 'P19' (making sure my hospitalization insurance is up to date!)
-- 
 Patrick J. Pinchera           | Wernher Von Braun when asked if man can be
 pjp@mlb.semi.harris.com       | replaced by computer in spaceflight: "The
 Interface & Control Sys., Inc.| best computer is a man, and it's the only one
 Melbourne, FL, USA            | that can be mass-produced by unskilled labor."
From: jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: 9'2" Seatrend For Sale
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:59:59 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca


Well, it looks like I may get my new board pretty soon so I may as well sell
my Seatrend.

At 9'2" long, it's a fairly good first short board. Construction is 
Carbon/Epoxy with retro-fitted adjustable footsraps and a Rushspeed fin.


Although not as pretty as it once was, the board is still rock solid
with no delamination, no pressure dings, and no other dings. There are plenty of minor
scratches.

The board would look brand new with a coat of white spray paint and a coat
of 're-deck'.

$250 ono.

Jim Munro

can be seen in Santa Cruz or San Jose.
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: No Olympic Windsurfing Coverage?
From: htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie)
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:11:50 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: The mad HATter's madhouse
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <18413@durer.cme.nist.gov> jthan@rrdstrad.nist.gov (Jonathan M. Richardson) writes:
> I believe that there will be _no_ olympic windsurfing coverage at all on
> any of the channels, including the olympic triplecast (which costs ~$145
> including tax, I passed on it...).
> 
> Is this true all over the world?

	I watched a live telecast of the mens and womens 470 dinghies last
night, with updates coming through via the commentator of the happenings
elsewhere on the other courses (bar the boardsailing... as they couldn't
get any results!!).

	I don't know if they'll be swapping from one course to the next
each day e.g. Finns the next day, etc. Time will tell I guess!

> -Jthan

-- 

|           ///    htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz  Bombora/Ross 780 sailor|
| Taste    ///       OR tweedie_h@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz        | RZ350, R65,|
|= Amiga  ///        OR tweedie@ivory.isor.vuw.ac.nz        | K75S rider.|
|    \\\ /// "Computer programmers were put on Earth to make accountants |
|     \XX//  look interesting!"   "Stretch yourself.........get morphed!"|
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From: jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing,alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Ever hear of a wetsuit brand made by "GV"
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:28:23 GMT
Followup-To: rec.windsurfing
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

In article <1992Jul17.173946.13019@mlb.semi.harris.com> pjp@sloth.mlb.semi.harris.com (Pat J. Pinchera) writes:


>the chest and back, zips in back, all black. Looked real good to me. The
>only brand that I could see was the letters "GV" in a logo type format.
>Anyone ever hear of it?  The construction seemed preetty good, looked


Never heard of it, but I bet it stands for 'Good VIbes'.......


Jim Munro
From: colas@bagheera.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Re: New Board Advice (Design tradeoffs...)
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:10:22 GMT
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

>	Edges		Sharp - better holding capability

non, it is the opposite. Sharp rails are FASTER, but don't hold the board at
all in a turn, round rails hold better but are slower.

-- 
Colas Nahaboo, colas@sa.inria.fr, Bull Research Koala proj. Wool&Gwm Architect
Pho:(33) 93.65.77.70(.66 Fax), INRIA, B.P.93 - 06902 Sophia Antipolis, FRANCE.
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: iop@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Hardware IOP (Bob McMillen) 3770)
Subject: Re: More Mail Order Complaints
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:40:17 GMT

I just ordered a fin from Sailways and a sail from Windsurd Warehouse (in San Fran-
cisco). No problems at all!

--- Bruce
From: moni@siemens.com. (Monica Hutchins)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Helmets & Why I Hate Windsurfing
Summary: Do I need a helmet?
Keywords: helmets
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:53:42 GMT



What about helmets?
(Has there been a discussion on this recently? Is there a FAQ?)

  a) do I need a helmet? (I don't go out in surf - but when I have
       just the fin in the water, even on my long board I go kinda fast 
       - and yes, I've hit my head)

  b) would a bike helmet work, or do I need to buy a more
     general purpose helmet? Or a helmet made for windsurfing?

Advanced board sailors can stop reading here. :-)

Why I hate windsurfing:

1) My number one reason for hating the sport is the usual problem,
   the wind only blows when you can't go.
2) I spent my last tax return on a trip to Aruba, and the WIND DID NOT BLOW!!
3) I scrimped and saved for almost a year just to buy one board and one sail...
4) .. now I'm going to scrimp and save for another to buy more sails and gear.
5) I pick up Windsurfing Magazine to take a quick look, and stay up half
    the night reading it cover to cover.
6) My best friend calls, he's distraught about a major problem.
   Do I listen? No - I had a blast'n day - and I've GOT to talk about it.
7) I have windsurfing nightmares - I wander, lost and confused, until
   I come to water and windsurfing gear. 
8) I fantasize constantly about completing a carve jibe.
9) On windy days, I have to close the office shades.
10) I read this news group when 

   .. wait - was that a small branch moving out there? Hey, I think
   
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: hilton@bahtat.dec.com (Greg Hilton)
Subject: Isles of Scilly
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:31:18 GMT


Hiya,

Augusts Windsurf magazine has an article about the Tushingham 1993 brochure
shoot. They went to the Isles of SCilly, and it looks a great place for a late
summer holiday!

Has anyone been? How can I find out more information?




Cheers,

Greg
Has anoyne been? What was it like? Anyone know how to find out more information
From: jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Re: Boom Recommendations?
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:48:43 GMT
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

In article <1992Jul22.232359.23252@nntp.uoregon.edu> du@oregon.uoregon.edu (Dave Ulrich) writes:
>
> Looking to replace my Windsurfing Hawaii Gorilla with a lighter,
> smaller grip boom that will handle a wide range of sails, say 4.0
> to 7.0.  Am leaning toward a Chinook, but would like to hear some
> feedback from those who have recently purchased a boom.


I just bought a Chinook small diameter E9 'Ultimate' boom. It is really nice
with the improved Chinook head and very nice adjustment mechanism with adjustment
in 1" increments. So far I really like it.  I got it in San Jose for $159 on sale.

Jim Munro


Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: felixc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (felix.cabral)
Subject: Re: New Board Advice (Design tradeoffs...)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:32:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.171320.21143@pony.Ingres.COM> thall@Ingres.COM (Trevor Hall) writes:
>In article <price.711993624@helios> price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price) writes:
>>felixc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (felix.cabral) writes:
>>
>
[stuff deleted]

>Why don't we start a general discussion about design principles and
>tradeoffs?  I'll admit, my brain is full of hype from the local
>Fanatic rep.  I'm sure that the net has more aggregate wisdom about
>what features contribute to which performance characteristics.
>
>Here, I'll start the discussion (I'm sure some of these are wrong):
>
>	Rails		Boxy(thick) - better upwind ability
>			Thin - better carving ability

My 2 pennies:		Boxy - harder to jibe but faster
			Thin - easy to jibe but slower

>	Bottoms		Concave - faster planing
>			V - greater stability through chop

My 2 pennies:		Concave - lower high end speed
				-concaves are slower if not forward in hull-
				ie, concaves near tail are SLOW
			V - faster especially if mostly flat

How about:		Rocker - An inch too much or too little has 
				tremendous effect on speed, jibing, waves.


-- 
Felix Cabral         {felixc@mtgzfs3.att.com}      "Give me nukin winds,
AT&T Bell Labs       {  att!mtgzfs3!felixc  }       a rad board, rad waves,
Middletown,NJ        {     (908)957-5081    }       and a company sickday!"
From: bob@elan.Elan.COM (Bob Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Windsurfing in Denmark
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:51:34 GMT
Organization: Elan Computer Group, Inc., Mountain View, CA

Can anyone send me information on windsurfing in Denmark.  I am
interested in:

		* Best time of year for sailing

		* Average wind speeds

		* Water temperature

		* Type of sailing, e.g..slalom, wave 

		* Best spots


Thanks,

Bob
bob@elan.com
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: jaime@netcom.com (Jaime Cordera)
Subject: Re: Fins, go new and expensive?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:07:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul20.175844.12530@netlabs.com> gerard@netlabs.com (Gerard Horan) writes:
>
>I put a blade fin on my Screamer about six weeks ago. It is faster and
>more controllable at speed. Even jamming thru the chop at Coyote is no
>problem. Spin-out is not an issue, and very easy to recover from.
>
>I have a WH 14.75 blade fin. It is not clear that this is the best 
>blade fin out there but for $98 I am happy with it.
>
 Be careful with the WH fin. I had one shear off at the finbox at the last
ASD race about 2 weeks ago. It is fiberglass, not G10, so it isn't nearly as
strong as many of the other blades. I *DID* jump it a lot, but...

Otherwise, it is a nice, fast, easy to handle fin. If you are looking for
a G10 version you can get one at ASD, right at Coyote. They have both True Ames
and their own private label (Rob Hartman design) fin, mostly blades. I got the
private label version for ~$90 (A-box).

Jaime


Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: somlo@swifty.dap.CSIRO.AU (Peter Somlo)
Subject: Re: Windsurfing Hangover
Organization: CSIRO, Division of Applied Physics, Sydney
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:42:09 GMT

I've been following this correspondence with interest, but also with
surprise. I have never suffered Windsurfing Hangover, on the contrary:
after a day(s) of good sailing I experience a state of euphoria, with my
mind constantly dwelling on the pleasure of flying over the water (to the
minutest detail).. (Once in two hours I may eat an orange and/or a
banana on the beach to beat hunger and dehydration - and to recover the use
of my wrists.)
-- 
Dr Peter I. Somlo FIEEE | CSIRO Div. Appl.Phys. | "Every coin has three
Head RF/Microwave Proj. | Natl. Meast. Lab.     |  sides - at least"
FAX: 61-2-413-7383	| POB 218 Lindfield 2070|  (Somlo, cca. 1985)
TEL: 61-2-413-7505      | NSW AUSTRALIA         |
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price)
Subject: Re: PVC Pipe
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:55:02 GMT

karl@ncrspks.SparksNV.NCR.COM (Karl Held) writes:

>Last weekend at Rio Vista I saw a "Gorge Tube"-like mast container which had a
>cast metal endcap that would swivel open and also lock with a padlock. The
>tube was supported on metal cast saddles which bolted to the top of the board
>rack. I asked the driver where he got the caps and saddles, and he said that
>any large industrial supply store carries them. Well, when I got back to the
>desert here in Reno, NV I called the largest plumbing supply house in the
>area, and they said they had never seen anything like it. Does anyone have an
>address/phone number of a supplier of this product? Thanks.


No address or phone number, but when I looked for stuff like this I was told to
go to an Irrigation supply place. When I called one, they did have such things.




--
chad
price@helios.unl.edu
cprice@molecular.unmc.edu
From: hartman@fanatic.EBay.Sun.COM (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: Good stuff for sale!
Date: 24 Jul 1992 14:00:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Reply-To: hartman@fanatic.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: fanatic.ebay.sun.com

I'm posting this for a friend, please contact him directly.

thanks, 

Rob 

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  90 Waddell 3.7 Surf Slalom - $250
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 Fiberspar 430/25 Wave - $150
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or email Gary_Law.SALES@engtwomac.synoptics.com



Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: stig@stud.cs.uit.no (Stig Johansen)
Subject: Re: Rigging Gastraas
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:53:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.193723.9832@novell.com>, rrosen@novell.com (Ross Rosen) writes:
|> A quick question on rigging the (relatively) new Gastraa sails:  How much 
|> downhaul is needed?  I bought a pair of 1991 (I think) Slalomfoil Pro's and
|> find that, despite all the talk about monster downhaul with the new sails, I
|> do _not_ use that much downhaul.  If I do really crank it, it looks really 
|> flat.  Am I doing the right thing?  Should they be flat?  Is my sail a 
|> pre-"heavy-downhaul" sail?  Any ideas?  (By the way, I use almost no outhaul.)

I had some '91 Gaastra Slalomfoil Pro's and rigged it like this:

Rig the downhaul as tight as you can, and use negative outhaul. Tighten the
battens as much as possible and go for it. The sail is supposed to look flat
and loose. The largest sail I rigged somewhat different to get power in
marginal conditions. I released the downhaul 2cm and removed the draftlocks.

PS! The new Gaastra's ain't that flat, but need a lot of downhaul too.

Arctic Surf Bums: Almost 70 degrees north :-)
-- 
//// Stig Johansen, research assistant //    Email: stig@stud.cs.uit.no  /
/// Computer Science Department       //    Phone : +47 83 44121        //
// University of Tromsoe             //    Telefax: +47 83 44580       ///
/ N-9037 TROMSOE, NORWAY            //                                ////
From: jsc@saxon.Eng.Sun.COM (John Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
Subject: SAIL WANTED
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:50:31
Organization: SunSoft, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: saxon

I'm looking for a good quality used sail in the size range 4.3 - 4.6
.. I live in Mtn View (S.F Bay area).

send mail or call (415) 336 4722

Thanks,
	--- John.
--
	--- John
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Re: Windsurfing Hangover
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 20:25:55 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

alien@boi.hp.com (Tom von Alten) writes:

>I've also been wondering how much the adrenalin factor enters into
>the symptoms you all are talking about; not all that much aerobic workout,
>but lots of little bursts of effort as we dodge wipeouts, struggle to
>hang onto a jibe, resist getting hammered by gusts, etc.

Well, this is exactly the point.  Anaerobic exercise, like sprints,
causes heavy lactic acid buildup and a burning sensation in the muscle.
For me, at least, windsurfing in high wind is a lot like doing 100 yard 
dashes all day long.  Adrenalin forces you to put in the extra effort
even when your body needs a short rest to clear the lactic acid (e.g.,
if you are drifting downriver in a flood tide, you need to scramble
upwind whether your body feels rested or not).

So I can't help but think that sailing results in a lot of lactic acid
buildup, without proper time to rest the muscle between "sets", and I
wonder whether this accounts in part for the feeling of total muscle
exhaustion that I feel a day after sailing.  

The solution might well be to stay over-hydrated and eats lots of carbs.

Will Estes         Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing
From: hip@a.cs.okstate.edu (HUFFMAN BRADLEY SP)
Subject: Re: Shipping a Brick! (was: More Mail Order Complaints)
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:57:48 GMT

From article <4310442@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, by kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom):
> Lets try cost accounting on this problem:
> 
> Assume 15 minutes to take an order, pull from inventory, wrap, weigh,
> label and drive to post office.  Also assume $4/hr for the worker doing
> this.
> 
> Thus you get $1 per order for S&H direct labor.  Selling price is 4
> times this to cover marketing and other costs of doing business (which
> is typical in the computer industry).

4 times, Are you sure the markups that low?
 
> Now we have $4 for Handling plus postage which I believe comes to what
> you were charged.
> 
> Buying multiple items uses about the same amount of Handling time
> which is why mailorder companies give better S&H rates for multiple
> item orders (except to this CD club I belong to, but that is another
> story for rec.audio).
> 
> Bottom line, I think $6 is fair for a fin and $10 is a rip-off.
> 
Payroll, Stuctures, Advertising are all cost of doing business and are 
factored into the price of an item.

Why not just add $6 to the price of the fin don't charge extra for S&H?
Because Shipping and Handling charges are nothing but a racket to give lower  
advertised prices to fool you into thinking they sell their product for
less than someone else.

Brad
Newsgroups: rec.windsurfing