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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NHL Schedule, April 12 and 13 plus metro NY partials
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:44:43 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: Curious Goods (formerly Louis Vendredi Antiques)


NB: ALL TIMES ARE EASTERN DAYLIGHT

Sunday, April 12

	Islanders at Toronto, 8:05 PM SCA (NY)
	Washington at Devils, 7:35 PM SCNY
	Detroit at Chicago, 8:35 PM
	L.A. at Vancouver, 10:05 PM
	Montreal at Buffalo, 7:05 PM
	Philadelphia at Hartford, 7:05 PM
	Quebec at Boston, 7:05 PM
	San Jose at Edmonton, 9:05 PM
	St. Louis at Minnesota, 8:05 PM
	Winnipeg at Calgary, 9:05 PM

Monday, April 13

	Islanders at Washington, 7:35 PM
	Pittsburgh at Devils, 7:35 PM SCA (NY)
	Hartford at Boston, 7:35 PM
	Toronto at Philadelphia, 7:35 PM

[Partial list for metro New York team games only]

Tuesday, April 14 (no information)

Wednesday, April 15

	Islanders at Devils, 7:35 PM SCA (NY)
	Rangers at Toronto, 7:35 PM MSG (tape delayed???)

Thursday, April 16

	Pittsburgh at Rangers, 7:35 PM MSG


TV INFO: "SCA (NY)" means that games scheduled to appear on SC America
in the metro New York area may be SCNY Plus overflow games replacing
regular SCA programming, including SCA "national" NHL games.  Sometimes
they coincide as SCA national games, so check your local listings.

(Extra NJ Nets basketball games have pushed most SCNY hockey onto SCA
so fans in cable areas with only SCNY may be out of luck. )-;)

gld
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From: paul@maunakea.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Paul Brownlow)
Subject: WHL: Tri-City/Seattle update
Keywords: assault
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:47:40 GMT

A couple of weeks ago I posted an article about the brawl between
the Tri-City Americans and the Seattle fans.  Review of the tape
from the Thunderbirds clearly shows that Tri-City defenseman
Dan O'Rourke swung his stick and struck fans and ushers *before*
any items were thrown at him and a fan struck him.  O'Rourke has
been charged with three counts of assault.  One of the charges
was for hitting one of the ushers with his stick.  This is from a
Seattle police officer who was working the area of the altercation
that night.

-- 
Paul Brownlow				| 1992 Memorial Cup Tournament 
Data I/O Corp.  Redmond, WA		|       May 9-17, 1992
paul@data-io.com			|     Seattle, Washington
					|      CHL/WHL/OHL/QMJHL
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The Strike(was: The upcoming STRIKE)
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:58:01 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <ARBOGASTW.46@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:
>My point exactly.  They never should have trusted the owners in the first 
>place!  I guess the players don't need respect from people like US.
You said it. They don't. They get no respect at all. 
Yeh,as a matter of fact, how many major pro sports comissioners(owner
mouthpieces) skip out of town during,say, the Conference Finals? Well,
Ziggy did.  Ziggy was in London when the notorious DoughnutGate at the
MeadowLands Arena took place and couldn't be located for couple of days.

Believe me,fans are the last people  Bob Goodenow&friends have to worry
about. If YOU don't respect them so what? There are still 4,000 on a Bruins
seasonticket waiting list.
From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Awesome Nordique PP
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:08:28 GMT
Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester Hockey Science Dept.


In article <1992Apr16.151239.10085@acsu.buffalo.edu> v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew W Korbut) writes:
>ESPN loves that footage, BTW...

I saw the game on TV, and it had some moments that I was sure would
end up on ESPN. Besides the Sabres bench holding the stupid fan while
Ray beat him and the cop tried to save him, there was the fight
between goalie Clint Malarchuk and one of the Nords goons like Rumble.
Malarchuk went to play it in the corner and he bumped with the
Nordique player. They yapped at each other as they headed back toward
the net. Finally, Clint reaches up and very calmly takes off his
gloves and mask and puts them on top of the net. The other guy drops
his gloves and off they go. I've never seen that kind of preparation
before.

That wasn't it for Clint. Later, one of the Nords (another fool, Herb
Raglan I think) was chasing down a long pass into the Sabres end. No
Sabres defencemen in sight, so Malarchuk comes out to play it at the
top of the slot. He gets it away in plenty of time, so Raglan goes
down and bowls Malarchuk's legs out from under him, and he lands on
his face as Raglan slides into the crease. Hawerchuk or someone jumps
on Raglan and Malarchuk gets up, staggers around a bit he was so mad
(or woozy) and then tries to get at Raglan. The ref tries to hold him
back, and Malarchuk almost dumped him (the ref) he was so furious.

The Sabres lost that game and the next one at the Aud the next night
(last night) in a feeble attempt to equal the Habs 0-7-1 record going
into the playoffs...

As a footnote, Malarchuk was on Don Cherry's Grapevine on
SportsChannel after the Sabres game (which had been on local cable).
Anyway, he was really interesting. Good westerner from Grand Prairie,
complete with cowboy hat and clips of him doing rodeo. Don showed the
clip of Malarchuk getting his throat slashed by a skate, but cut it
before all the blood. He (Don) said that after the game Ron McLean
(Don: "he's a real sensitive guy you know", Clint: "yeah, well, a
westerner eh?") opened the Coaches Corner segment with the words
"Sabres goalie Clint Malarchuk sufferred a horrific accident tonight".
Don apologized for saying "Yeah, and it was pretty bad too."
Apparently Don's wife Rose told him it was in poor taste. Anyway, Don
likes Malarchuk because he's scrappy -- he would've loved that game
against the Nordiques!

George
-- 
George Ferguson                 ARPA: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu
Dept. of Computer Science       UUCP: rutgers!rochester!ferguson
University of Rochester         VOX:  (716) 275-2527
Rochester  NY  14627-0226       FAX:  (716) 461-2018
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 08:54:05 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Strike and Other Thoughts


>From: 0heidentha_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
>In article <Ydsmq1i00Uh7Q4uFp0@andrew.cmu.edu>, jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu
(James J. M
>urawski) writes:
>> 
>> On 08-Apr-92 in Re: Strike and Other Thoughts
>> user Anna Matyas@andrew.cmu.e writes:
>>>I keep hearing conflicting reports about who-said-what concerning
>>>The Strike.  One thing I heard on the car radio this morning was
>>>that Penguin Prez Baldwin said if The Strike continues into next
>>>season he will definitely bring in replacement players.
>> 
>> As I heard it, Baldwin has no intention of bringing in replacement players.
>> He just said it with a touch of sarcasm and frustration.  Baldwin and Norm
> 
>If  the owners want replacement players then they better hope some 
>'replacement' fans will support them.  I've kept quiet through this
whole thing 
>but I am going to speak up now.  Not only the players, owners, and fans being 
>hurt but waht about the 'little' people who rely on hockey to support 
>themselves and their families.  The revenue lost from the strike hits a lot 
>deeper than the pockets of the owners and the players.  Just my two cents 
worth.  

In an article I read, after hearing that comment on the
radio, Baldwin said he will bring in replacement players
and adjust the ticket prices accordingly.

Like I said, might as well listen to Bill Clinton and Jerry Brown.
I don't know who believe anymore.  


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From: ddavis@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Donald Davis)
Subject: Re: More on the screwing of the Badgers...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:15:44 GMT

>I was there, live.  I had seen both semifinal games live, too.
>I thought Wisconsin was a scrappy team with a lot of class.
>
>I was wrong.  They lost, and they deserved to lose because they
>fell apart when things didn't go their way.

	Jeremy:

	I would remind you and everyone else in Netland that the "things
not going their way" that you glibly refer to was not a single inopportune
call or bad bounce of the puck.  The Badgers were whistled for FIVE (5)
two-man advantages!!!!!!  Of all the people in Netland I've discussed this
with, *one* person could think of one Juniors game where a team had been
screwed by the refs to that extent.

	Did the Badgers behave badly in the face of adversity?  Sadly, yes
they did.  But I defy any of you to name any hockey team on the face of the
earth that could be cheated out of a championship by the guys in the
striped shirts and not react the way the Badgers did, if not much worse.
-- 
Donald C. Davis (alias YYZ)	My hat is off to Illinois Governor Jim Edgar
ddavis@casbah.acns.nwu.edu	for balancing the state budget *without*
				raising income taxes or cutting education!!
From: mitch@cirrus.com (Mitch Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Sherri's Spewing (WAS: Re: Another Lindros)
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:57:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.

/* fafuria@der.Princeton.EDU (Frederick A. Furia) writes: */

>Look, it is true that the average IQ of athletes accepted to many
>colleges is significantly below the average.  You can look at their
>grades, SAT scores, or anything you want and you will see a pattern.  I
>don't mean to suggest that our educational system isn't the best.  I
>am convinced that it is.  If it were not, we wouldn't have nearly so
>many foreign students coming here and taking their educations back to
>their homelands.  That doesn't eliminate the one aspect about the
>influence of athletics on the system, whether you like that part or not.
>
I'd like to add that these athletic departments also generate quite a bit
of income for the University as a whole.  There would be a few less
academic scholarships if it were not for that money.  It's a catch 22 of
sorts.

   ~mitch
From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Playoff Format
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:30:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsh.1992Apr15.183047.17175
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr15.160738.4361@athena.mit.edu>, mjdaly@athena.mit.edu (Mark J Daly) writes:
> In article <1992Apr15.053758.29478@wuecl.wustl.edu> jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes:
> >
> >  Since there has been much talk about the Isles and the Flyers missing the
> >playoffs. I would suggest that the NHL uses the NBA playoff format which
> >would have the best 8 teams in in each of the conferences.
> >  
> >  The winner of each division will have the number one and two seeds
> >and the rest will be determined based on their number of points.  On this
> >given format the Isles and the Flyers would have made it to the playoffs
> >based on their better record than the Whalers and the Sabres. We also would
> >have more different playoff series. 
> 
> This set-up makes sense in the NBA since conference alignments are
> meaningful in the NBA regular season (you play teams outside your
> division but in your conference more than you play teams in the
> other conference). I'd be in favor of this only if the NHL schedule
> was adjusted in this manner because as it stands now, you'd have few 
> chances to play teams that you would be competing for playoff spots with.

Well, you're probably going to get 1/2 of your wish.

Before the 84 game schedule became a reality, the schduling formula was
going to be:

7 games vs. each team within your division
3 or 4 (3 vs 3 teams, 4 vs 3 teams) games against teams within other 
division in your conference
2 games vs each team in other conference.

With the 4 new games, I think one has to assume that they'll move it to 4
games against all teams in other division within conference. That leaves
one more game to dispose of. If you take away one game against each divisional
opponent and add that one extra game, you can increase the number of games by 
one against each team in any other division. I hope that that's the way
they go because I think that there are way too many divisional games when
you are only going to face divisional opponents for the first two rounds of
the playoffs. Please note also that when expansion is complete the number
of teams in each division will be 7, and the number of teams you will have
to face in your division is 6. A little quick math shows that 1/2 of 84 is
42, divisible by both 6 and 7...damn, somebody in this league may have 1/2
a brain after all!

However, FLYERS GM Russ Farwell said between periods of the FLYERS game vs
Toronto that there is very little support within the league for going to
the playoff format being discussed here. They feel that the public is happy
with the rivalries that are created by playing so many games within the
divisions and then playing divisional opponents in the playoffs. I agree
with the current playoff format myself (even though it eliminated the
FLYERS) but I disagree that so many divisional games are necessary.

pete clark jr.
att!hos1cad!seth
att!cbnewsh!seth
From: tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Jokerit SM-LIIGA champion 91/92, Finland
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:45:54 GMT
Organization: City of Tampere

SM-LIIGA NEWS, 12th April, FINLAND
===================================

CONCRATULATIONS JOKERIT!!!!!!!!

Jokerit from Helsinki won the championship of SM-LIIGA 4-1. Jokerit
won the first two games. In those games JyPHT (Jyvaskyla) could not
even give a good opponent. The third game was though one, and JyPHT
won that in the second overtime. The fourth was again a good game.
Jokerit lead after the second period 3-1, but JyPHT scored twice in
the third period. In the overtime Teemu Selanne did the winning goal
for Jokerit and Jokerit lead 3-1. The fifth and the last game was then
again clearly for Jokerit. Jokerit won it 4-0 and the championship in
the games 4-1. The championship was the second for Jokerit. The first
one game in the 1974 (if I remember right).

In the last year Jokerit was 9th and quite near a bankrupt; and now 
they won the championship. How is this possible?
A year ago Whitbread Around the World sailor Harry "Hjallis" Harkimo
bought the Jokerit. He get a good coach, Boris Majorov, two good
players, Otakar Janecky (Czechoslovakia) and Markus Ketterer from
TPS, and he kept Teemu Selanne still one year in Finland. Actually,
he did not invest a lot to the team, but he gave them the team spirit,
he teached them to trust themselves. Jokerit had already in the last
season the team with talented players, but players did not know that
they can play well together (BTW Ilves has the similar situation at the
moment).

In the next season there will some changes in the SM-LIIGA. Firstly,
there will be four more games. The SM-LIIGA is divided into four
groups and the teams within a group will play two more games against
each other. The groups are
  A) Jokerit, HIFK and H-Reipas
  B) TPS, Lukko and Assat
  C) HPK, Ilves and Tappara
  D) JyPHT, KalPa and K-Espoo.
Secondly, the best eight teams will qualify into the play-offs.


CONCRATULATIONS JOKERIT!!!!!!!!

THE FINAL STANDINGS
===================
1)   Jokerit  Helsinki  GOLD
2)   JyP HT   Jyvaskyla SILVER
3)   HIFK     Helsinki  BRONZE
4)   Assat    Pori
5)   TPS      Turku
6)   Lukko    Rauma
7)   KalPa    Kuopio
8)   HPK      Hameenlinna
9)   Ilves    Tampere
10)  H-Reipas Lahti
11)  Tappara  Tampere
12)  JoKP     Joensuu, dropped in the 1st division
K-Espoo from Espoo qualified to the SM-LIIGA.

-- 
---
Kimmo Kauranen  *  Department of Information Technology
                *  City of Tampere, FINLAND
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mhauser@courtney.acns.nwu.edu (Marc Hauser)
Subject: Re: Stanley Cup to Rangers?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:20:40 GMT

In article <11270@mindlink.bc.ca> Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert  
Broughton) writes:
> If the playoffs get wiped out by the strike, do the trustees for the  
Stanley
> Cup (who are they, anyway) have any authority, discretionary or  
otherwise, to
> award the cup to the team with the most regular season points?

That is probably the only way that the Rangers will ever win the cup.

1940 (Need I say more?)

Marc Hauser
mhauser@courtney.acns.nwu.edu

Devils in '93!
"They don't call me stupid for nothin'"-Stimpy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: andria@white.toronto.edu (Andria L. Hunter)
Subject: Women's Team Canada Exhibition Game in Toronto (This Sat, Apr 11th)
Keywords: women hockey team canada 
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:24:20 GMT


           +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
           Women's Team Canada Exhibition Game in Toronto
           +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

Where:      North York Centennial Arena
When:       This Saturday (April 11th) at 7:00 pm
Cost:       $3.00
Opposition: An All-Star Team from the Senior AA Central
                Ontario Women's Hockey League
Expected Attendance: 4000

    
The team will be leaving for the IIHF World Championships
in Finland the following day.  The World Championships
will run from April 20th to April 26th.  I'll post more
details about the time of each game at a later date.


Apparently a lot of work has went into the organization of
this exhibition game.  During the intermission they will
be selling pink Team Canada Frisbees.  You write your name
on your Frisbee and try to toss it into one of the nets.
Winners will receive a complete Women's Team Canada uniform.


Andria Hunter
andria@white.toronto.edu

P.S.  I'm number 55 if you decide to go to the game.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: cavers@cs.ubc.ca (Ian Cavers)
Subject: Re: Kings vs. Canucks
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 16:04:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.140238.27727@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aq614@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert G. Guydosh) writes:
>
>Who was in goal for Vancouver a couple nights ago vs. the Kings?
>Was it Gamble or MacLean?
>
>Bobby
>
>-- 
>
>"Scratch my back with a hacksaw."
> - Mike Lange, Penguins Announcer


   Gamble (who is always a "gamble" this year) was in the nets for the loss
to LA on Sunday while MacLean got the win in LA on Tuesday.

Ian 
    GO Canucks!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: edwin@is.morgan.com (Ed Bergman)
Subject: Ode to the NHL
Keywords: strike
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:10:29 GMT

  Ode to the NHL

Up Yours Messier, Gretsky, Lemieux
The fans or more millions?, We've seen what you'll do.

Up Yours Pocklington, Wirtz and McNall
The owners and that ass Ziegler were due for a fall.

And to you Bob Goodenow, eat shit and die
Eagleson was a crook, but you're such a great guy.
He mismanaged pensions, and that is a shame
But you have succeeded in destroying our game.

We follow you loyally, each year spending more bucks
But you cancel our playoffs over hockey cards, you fucks.

So why should I bother, this strike proves the Rangers are jinxed
For Sale... 4 seats in the Blues, 'cause this league really stinks.










DISCLAIMER: These views are my own, and not my employers, though I am sure they are shared by fans all over.
From: IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (the DM)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The Fat Lady Sang ... NHL season's over?
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:30:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92099.113044IO11330
Organization: University of Maine System

Well if the season is over as it appears to be with the latest refusal
on the part of the players to sign the latest proposal....  what is going
to happen with things like the Draft (many teams haven't played the same
number of games), the cup, and lastly awards,  Will the NHL give away the
various awards (Norris, Byng, Calder etc.) to striking players???  Any
thoughts??????
                                  Patrick Ellis
p.s.  go B's???
From: chin@sask.usask.ca (Glenn Chin)
Subject: Examining the books (was Re: The upcoming STRIKE.)
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:16:43 GMT

In article <=2xtm0l@rpi.edu>, billoj@aix.rpi.edu (Jeremy Louis Billones) writes:
> etam@fraser.sfu.ca (Edwin Tam) writes:
>>What I can't understand is why, when owners have shown the players the
>>accounting books, drawn up charts, called in accounts, etc., they (the
>>players) STILL think the owners are making tons money.
> 
> Except that I don't think the NHL has actually opened the books.  The
> NHLPA may have gotten their numbers through detective work and such.
> 
> If the owners had really opened up their books, there wouldn't be any
> discrepancy about the bottom line.

The NHLPA arrived at the $24 million profit figure after examining the books of
the franchises in Detroit, Philadelphia, Quebec, and Washington.  I'd say those
four teams are a fair representation of the financial status of the NHL
(perhaps a touch on the optimistic side).

Glenn
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: 5 recalled from Kansas City
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 21:33:08 GMT

The Sharks, despite the fact that the Kansas City Blades are in the IHL
playoffs, recalled 5 players from Kansas City yesterday to fill the injury-
plagued roster.  The players are defensemen Pat MacLeod, David Williams, and
Mike Colman, right wing Jeff Odgers, and goalie Wade Flaherty.  Coach George
Kingston said that Flaherty, who has been rotating with Arturs Irbe at Kansas
City, might start his first NHL game today in Edmonton.  If Flaherty plays,
he will be the 5th Shark goalie to play this season, matching the season high
by the Detroit Red Wings (Tim Cheveldae, Vincent Riendeau, Greg Millen, Allan
Bester, and Scott King).

Meanwhile, defenseman Doug Wilson is ready to return to action, but center
Kelly Kisio (shoulder), left wing David Bruce (hernia), defenseman Link Gaetz
(head injury), and goalies Jeff Hackett (right knee) and Brian Hayward (back)
are not expected to play today.  Kisio, however, practiced yesterday, and has
a chance to be ready.

===============================================================================
Kansas City Blades for the Turner Cup!
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Wayne Gretzky for Ross and Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Pat Falloon for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: ARBOGASTW@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: Re: So long, Stanley Cup playoffs
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:31:37 GMT

In article <YdtQkmG00WBL83CCYz@andrew.cmu.edu> kd2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Karen E. Dorow) writes:
>I've seen the Hershey Bears defeat the Philadelphia Flyers (I believe in
>1990).  I am not sure what Flyer stars where not present, 

>Karen

I didn't think the Flyers had "stars" in 1990.

Warren