From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: A mirror for Adrienne Regard's NO OTHER HUMAN...
Keywords: puberty, surrealistic
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:55:32 GMT

In <1992Aug20.174421.13904@advtech.uswest.com> steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak) writes:

>Look in that mirror yourself.  Do you see a fascist?

No.  See my previous follow-up.

I see the fascists elsewhere, as on pp. 51-52 of BABIES FOR BURNING,
by British investigative reporters Michael Litchfield and Susan Kentish,
published in 1974 by Serpentine Press Ltd., 21 Conduit Street, London
W1R 9IB, ISBN 0 903961 024 (Paperback) ISBN 0 903961 032 (Hardback).

BTW, networkers, especially Galen Hekhuis, is there any place where
this book has been "thoroughly refuted"?  I must admit, what appears 
below strains even my credibility.

Here we go, starting with the bottom of p. 51:

			. . . . . . . .

	Within half a mile of Ladycare is another pregnancy testing
and advisory service.  This is run by a chemist from his home.

	In the waiting room, there were bookshelves full of literature
on the Nazis, fascism and selective breeding and killing.  There were
six books entitled, "Fascism -- The Only Way", three volumes were called
"Hitler's Dream". Other books included: "The Importance of the Third 
Reich", "Mosley -- The Man for Britain" and "Fascists' Forum".

	"Please select a book to read," said the chemist to Litchfield
while he took Sue into another room. "You'll find them all very
interesting, very informative."

	When they returned to the waiting-room, Litchfield commented:
"There's nothing there for me.  They're all about fascism and Hitler."

	"Don't underestimate fascism," said the pregnancy tester intensely.
"Remember, my business is all to do with selective breeding and killing.
That was the great dream and immense philosophy of Hitler.
	"There's a hard core of us in abortion, and that includes the
doctors, who believe in the Hitler dogma.  Abortion has given a great deal
of power over life and death to a handful of people.  We envisage a time
when a mother will have the right to have a child killed up to a few hours
after normal birth.  When a baby is born, its mother should have a chance
to look it over, ensure it comes up to specification, and decide whether or
not it should live.  This is the ideal, the dream, of course.  We have a
long way to go before this would be acceptable to society as a whole.  They
have to be taken along in slow stages.
	"If anyone had said this at the beginning of abortion, there would
have been an outcry, the public would have been horrified.  You have to
lead them an inch at a time.  Euthanasia is next on the agenda.  We are
trying to compress life, to telescope and concertina it, so that life will
terminate for everyone on their sixtieth birghday and the bulk of the
population is aged 20-50.  Most of the doctors involved in abortion whom I
deal with are disciples of this cause.  The doctors in Germany were ahead
of Hitler -- they were the ones forcing Adolf's hand for more and more 
experimentation.  In Britain, it was the doctores who were pushing for
abortion.  They saw abortion as a foot in the door for more radical things.
It's all to do with power and the shaping of the world."

[End of section.]

  As a mathematician, I like to deal in certainties.  I suspend judgment
about things, like this passage, which are too different from anything
I have read anywhere else.  Yet, my reading has been very selective, and
maybe someone out there has read similar things elsewhere.  Food for 
thought: just how did so many evil doctors spring up in Nazi Germany?

Peter Nyikos