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From: twisted@bessel.umd.edu (Rick MacKinnon)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: HI D00DZ
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:48:23 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

HI MY NAME IS METELHED I THINK SATANISM IS K00L.  TELL ME HOW TO SUMMON THE
DARK POWERS I HAVE LOTS OF ENEMIES I WISH I COULD CRUSH THEM.  DO YOU GUYZ
REALLY SACRAFISE ANIMALS UNDER A FULL MOON I COULD DO THAT I WANT TO BE A
REAL SATANIST.

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Disclaimer 1:  Do you know how *hard* it is to write like an illiterate
13-year-old??

Disclaimer 2:  I'm losing net.access today, so you don't have to worry about
seeing any more of my annoying posts.

Twisted
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Ye Great Sinners
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:28:55 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct13.221517.7609@iscsvax.uni.edu>, marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct10.215313.6190@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
>> In article <1992Oct10.111919.7469@iscsvax.uni.edu> marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

[why am I getting back into one of *these* discussions?]

>>>No, I doubt that.  Why would people by the thousands gather outside a church
>>>to praise and worship God (the inside was already filled!) and hear the 
>>>good news?
>> 
>> Same reason people go to greatful dead concerts under the same conditions.
>> What does this have to do with xtian missionaries helping 3rd worlders on 
>> condition of conversion of christianity. You seem to be supporting my 
>> comments.
> 
> I was saying that there have been whole countries that have converted to 
> Christ at times.

Sure. The king decides, "I want to be Xian today" and mandates that everyone be
converted. They send people out into rivers that have been "blessed" upstream by
priests in order to be "baptised." Some conversion!
   
>>>> of the problems in (christian) third-world countries are a direct result of
>>>> christianity; overpopulation, exploitation of the lower classes (xtians make 
>>>> ideal slaves), ecological disasters.
>>>
>>>Ahhh...no.
>> 
>> Nice comeback! Any figures to quote? Refutations? Just plain ol denial huh?
>> You would think that since you have been denying this assertion of mine for
>> something like 4 months now, you would be able to come up with a better answer
>> than that. Perhaps not.
> 
> Why not just plain denial?  Doesn't take much to refute that one.

Because there's nothing to refute.
  
>>>The ability to do many great things through the power of God.  (I'll leave it
>>>real general, unless you WANT me to be specific.)
>> 
>> Oh please do! Should be good for shits & giggles!
> 
> Then surely I will NOT tell you.  There's no reason to let you mock what you
> don't understand.

How abut telling the rest of us? I've never heard of somebody actually doing
anything "through the power of God" except except get a wonderful feeling about
their life. Which anybody can get without God.
  
> We'll know who's right in the end.  Every knee shall bow before the Lord!
> 
> Evan
 
I hate preaching. I really do. I think I'll add some of the alt.atheism stuff
to the FAQ.

--Semhaza
===========================================
Glen Benton For President:  If you're tired 
  of voting for the lesser of two evils!
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Moses' Horns
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:38:07 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <Bw228L.IL8@ddsw1.mcs.com>, bes@ddsw1.mcs.com (Bes) writes:
>>>: In article <1992Oct6.005834.19586@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>,
> : locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () wrote:
> : > 
> : > representations of Moses. 2 of the 3 have horns.
> : > p375 fig. 9-40 Biblical illustration...
> : > p652 fig. 17-20 Michealangelo's "Moses" statue (quite magnificent actually)
> : > 
> : > On cursory examination I found no explanation for the horns in the text, though
> : > interestingly, in the biblical illustration, Aaron, next to Moses, has none.
> : > 
> : > ye biblical scholar and servante of Cthulhu...
> : > -Scott<<
> 
> 
> I believe that in the field of the exsoteric, representation of a hero or a
> god with horns imply "divine inspiration".
> Most gods or daemons which sport a set of horns or a combination of several,
> in magic represent divine power, inspiration, wisdom and transubstantiation.
> 
> Moses, not Aaron, was transubstantiated by his tete-a-tete with God on Mt
> Sinai, therefore "changed" by divine proximity. You will notice that the
> statue of Moses by Michaelangelo holds the tablets of Sinai, that is to
> imply after divine encounter.
> Isis in Egyptian myth, is represented with a chair on her head, yet after
> her encounter with Ra and learning of his secret name she is shown with
> cow's horns and a disk on her head instead of the throne.
> 
> Bes

There's an interesting explanation I read of the passage in question (why Moses
was changed in the first place, not why it was mistranslated as "horns"), in a
book called _Who Wrote the Bible?_ I have no idea how accurate it may be. If
one-half the book is correct, _The Bible_ is the biggest smear/PR campaign in
history, which makes me tend to agree with it somewhat.

--Semhaza
"American fundamentalism is first and foremost a movement dedicated to making
women subservient to the ambitions of their husbands, brothers, and sons."
	--Joe Barnhart, "Shocking New Testament Views of the Family"
          in Free Inquiry (have you read your secular humanist magazine today?)
From: locklin@henry.ece.cmu.edu (Scott Locklin)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Last Letter from Uncle Setnakt
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:40:10 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon

I am curious as to what others in alt.satanism think of the "temple of set".
I've always had a strong bias toward LaVey's style since it was my first intro
to the subject. The temple of Set seems to have a more cerebral approach to
"magick" than LaVey, whos ideas on the subject were never quite clear to me
(meaning the "High" magick). I am interested in what TOS have to say on 
occultism & the collective unconscious, but I am turned off by what I percieve
as their "We're better than LaVey & everyone else" stance.

Also, the approach of mail-ordering documents, while practical, reminds me
of AMORC, a rather lame "occult" group.

ANyone else?

-Scott
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:42:53 EDT
From: <CCS105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Jesus/hell/xtain/little bunny fofo...
 <1992Oct7.032100.17131@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>

    Sorry to break up the interesting topics that relate to this newsgroup...
yeah, anyway, I got a report to do on Satanic murder, (aka occult killings).
You know...go find someone and kill them for a rejuvenation spell.

  So, how badly should I scare the class, i'm confident I could do a good job.
I could bring out some daggers...it would work,really.

I was also thinking on the lines of suicide (not me personally, i still wanna
see the great and powerfull cluthulu...yeah, anyway, maybe a story on why some
whom are in various occult/religions, etc commit suicide.
I'm sure someone has some ideas...
                               gersha
                                   smitty.
From: paul.boyd@synapse.org (Paul Boyd) 
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: GRAPHIC
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: paul.boyd@synapse.org (Paul Boyd) 

I noticed your little graphic and I couldn't help but wonder if you
really relish the idea of molesting children. Although I am atheist, I
can not like the idea of these kinds of acts. In fact, because I am
atheist, I also don't believe in the devil. God and Satan are only
personifications of human tendency. For example some people want to do
"good" in the world, while others do not. I just feel sorry for the
person who feels that molesting children is cool. More importantly, I
feel sorry for any children who might know somebody who thinks it's cool
to molest children. To be quite honest, I don't know very much about
satanism as a cult, but I'm sure there'll be a response to my little
letter.
                                "Good" luck,
                                        -Paul
From: CCS105@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Jesus/hell/xtian/little bunny fofo...
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:49:02 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

P.s....is the poster really nice looking?...it could add to my collection
of stuff in my room.  Is the globe blue...how many of these posters can you
get.....I want one...

Gee, maybe alt.satanism could have its own poster, as well as its own faq.
just a thought.
             later, gersha
                    smitty
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Moses' Horns
From: ()
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:37:44 -0600
Followup-To: alt.satanism
 <1992Oct6.003915.19125@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> <1992Oct6.005834.19586@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct6.005834.19586@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>,
locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () wrote:
> 
> If anyone out there has the standard art-history text, Gardners "Art through
> the Ages" (or whatever- it the one everyone uses) There are 3 pictures of old
> representations of Moses. 2 of the 3 have horns.
> p375 fig. 9-40 Biblical illustration...
> p652 fig. 17-20 Michealangelo's "Moses" statue (quite magnificent actually)
> 
> On cursory examination I found no explanation for the horns in the text, though
> interestingly, in the biblical illustration, Aaron, next to Moses, has none.
> 
> ye biblical scholar and servante of Cthulhu...
> -Scott


The standard text is Jansons "A History of Art" it mentions that the horns
on
moses are acutally due to a translation error that has been traced back to 
a specific translation before the Ren.
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: satan@evil.demon.co.uk (satan)
Subject: Friends
X-BBS-Msg-Type: E
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:11:41 +0000



My friends, soon I will reward you.

Soon we will have the 7 kingdoms, soon we will rule the world.



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From: donnell@morayeel.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Moses' Horns
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:21:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.153744.1377@msus1.msus.edu> () writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.005834.19586@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>,
>locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () wrote:
>> 
>> If anyone out there has the standard art-history text, Gardners "Art through
>> the Ages" (or whatever- it the one everyone uses) There are 3 pictures of old
>> representations of Moses. 2 of the 3 have horns.
>> p375 fig. 9-40 Biblical illustration...
>> p652 fig. 17-20 Michealangelo's "Moses" statue (quite magnificent actually)
>> 
>> On cursory examination I found no explanation for the horns in the text, though
>> interestingly, in the biblical illustration, Aaron, next to Moses, has none.
>> 
>> ye biblical scholar and servante of Cthulhu...
>> -Scott
>
>
>The standard text is Jansons "A History of Art" it mentions that the horns
>on
>moses are acutally due to a translation error that has been traced back to 
>a specific translation before the Ren.

How do you translate a picture?

it is probably just bad religious art, or at least that is the standard 
excuse.
I went to a wedding in a small, fairly modern catholic church in Iowa.
Among other interesting points was a depiction of Jesus getting married
to an unidentified female, above the altar; and a picture of one
of the stations of the cross, showing the apostles lifting a living Jesus
off the cross. 
I was told to ignore these blatant orthodoxy errors. It was just
bad religious art...
I wonder....

					--Judex--
From: bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Fuck you, Marshall
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:37:27 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University

Marshall answered my letter...

Sorry, Marshall
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: GRAPHIC
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:18:40 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct13.205321.1@opie.bgsu.edu>, bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
> Well Paul, once again the classic 'make me look good by making you look bad
> approach', huh?
> 
> I see your plan -- you think that by using a loaded word like 'molester' to
> describe whoever you are referring to, you will make them look bad, and thus
> make yourself look good.  Then, after making yourself seem like a person that
> is concerned about the welfare of children, you will bring yourself closer to
> them and their little sex parts.  You fucking pervert!  I can see right through
> your lies.
> 
> I only hope that now little children will not fall into your trap, and realize
> what a _good_ person I am.
> 
> --Joshua

JOIN alt.satanism TODAY!!!

SEE real Biblical characters FIGHT over who is RIGHT!

WHO will win? Will it be JOSHUA of the Old Testament...

...or PAUL of the New?

And what about the children's SEX PARTS?

JOIN alt.satanism! Or your Eternal Soul(TM) may regret it for the rest of
Eternity(TM)...

--Semhaza
P.S. Or should it be _The Bible_ical characters...?
P.P.S. Who the hell are these people anyway?
P.P.P.S What happened to news last week?
P.P.P.P.S. Read Spawn or suffer in hell forever!
P.P.P.P.P.S. Why do I keep tacking these notes on the end? 
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: Jesus/hell/xtain/little bunny fofo...
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:17:08 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <92283.114253CCS105@psuvm.psu.edu> <CCS105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>    Sorry to break up the interesting topics that relate to this newsgroup...
>yeah, anyway, I got a report to do on Satanic murder, (aka occult killings).
>You know...go find someone and kill them for a rejuvenation spell.
>
>  So, how badly should I scare the class, i'm confident I could do a good job.
>I could bring out some daggers...it would work,really.
>
>I was also thinking on the lines of suicide (not me personally, i still wanna
>see the great and powerfull cluthulu...yeah, anyway, maybe a story on why some
>whom are in various occult/religions, etc commit suicide.
>I'm sure someone has some ideas...

I've got a pregnant Idea (as usual). Why don't you do it on Xtian ritual 
killings? It should be easier to find references & examples. You do great
disservice to the truth by spreading the lies of the xtian orthodoxy.
I suppose you actually buy into the "troubled teen listens to Ozzy & kills his
parents" bit...

You are all Cthulhu food!
-Scott
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Last Letter from Uncle Setnakt
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:46:16 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct10.214010.17686@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>, locklin@henry.ece.cmu.edu (Scott Locklin) writes:
> I am curious as to what others in alt.satanism think of the "temple of set".
> I've always had a strong bias toward LaVey's style since it was my first intro
> to the subject. The temple of Set seems to have a more cerebral approach to
> "magick" than LaVey, whos ideas on the subject were never quite clear to me
> (meaning the "High" magick). I am interested in what TOS have to say on 
> occultism & the collective unconscious, but I am turned off by what I percieve
> as their "We're better than LaVey & everyone else" stance.

The "we're better" attitude does turn me off as well. They seem to believe they
are a super-group. Additionally, they have a more "standard" approach to
magick, including all the elements that turned me off to magick in the first
place.

Advantages:  they do seem to have more of a collective brain than CoS, magick
seems to be an actual part of their philosophy (as opposed to CoS, where it
seems to be grafted on so they can say "We're Satanists, because we do what
Satanists do.").

As far as the collective unconscious, I couldn't care less, not believing iin
any such thing.

> Also, the approach of mail-ordering documents, while practical, reminds me
> of AMORC, a rather lame "occult" group.

Yep, that's exactly what I think of when I hear "magick."

ToS seems to be more of an occult organization than a religious/philosophical
one. Since that doesn't fit my interests, I will not bother being interested.

--Semhaza
Just a reminder:  vote early, vote often.
From: turnbull@turnbull.wariat.org
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Need Information
Date: 13 Oct 1992 06:27:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: colima.scl.cwru.edu

Recently, dark events in my life have forced me to seriously consider the
occult and its role in my life. I feel that perhaps Satan is my true master
and I should devote my time to serving him. However, I have no idea how to
go about this and I desperately need some information. Surely someone on this
group can direct me as to how to make contact with the Fallen Angel. Send
E-mail if possible; my work schedule doesn't permit me much time to read
these newsgroups.

Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: locklin@henry.ece.cmu.edu (Scott Locklin)
Subject: Re: Jesus/hell/xtian/little bunny fofo...
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:36:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.223613.1@opie.bgsu.edu> bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu writes:
>Hey, I just pulled this poster off of the wall at my dorm here...
> 
>The poster has this occult-looking picture of some woman holding a
>glowing light in her hands.  The poster says:
>                      DEVIL WORSHIP
>                   THE RISE OF SATANISM
> 
>                       * Values *
>                     *Motivations*
>                     *Occult Items*
>                    *Teen Satanism*
>                     *Heavy Metal*
>                     *Criminology*
>                       *Dangers*
> 
> 
>                    Wed., Oct. 28th
>   7:15pm Mac Cafeteria & 9:00pm Harsh. Cafeteria
>      sponsored by: Campus Crusade For Christ
> 
>Cooooool.  I always wanted to know why heavy metal people were satanists.
>This might even be like on TV or like Mike Warnke or something.  Maybe there
>will be some expert there that has escaped the clutches of Satan and can
>relate 'true' experiences of the horrors of heavy metal and satanism!
> 
>Seriously, though, why do I never see seminars on the 'rise of Xianity'?  
>Maybe campus crusade for Cthulhu could sponsor an expert to come in and
>tell about the dangers of Xianity...
> 
>--Joshua
> 

This is interesting. Sponsorship. The Campus Crusade for Christ gets money from
my school, enough money, in fact, to employ at least two people full time.
I for one, do not think a religious organization should recieve public funds,
no matter how popular.
I doubt as any pagan groups recieve equivalent funds, even though they are 
probobly of comparable popularity. I know for a fact that _NO_ chapters
of the Campus Crusade for Cthulhu recieve _any_ funds.
Whats the deal here?
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: donnell@morayeel.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Jesus?
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:07:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.000500.3391@microsoft.com> timf@microsoft.com (Tim Fleehart) writes:
>In article <92279.25559.J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> J024330@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>>After months of reading the group, it can be concluded that the participants,
>>using the logic they currently use, could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt
>>that George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln did not exist.
>>
>>As a former pagan, athiest, agnostic, roman catholic, I set out to prove the
>>Bible was false.  The proof is not there.
>
>We aren't looking for proof of position.
>
>Didn't your god give us free will so we could choose our own path?
>
>We have chosen our path, please go away.
>
>Tim

I wish more Xians would remember that Jesus probably masturbated, and that
God lets us make our own choices. I refuse to submit to anything because
"God Demands It!". He probably doesn't even if he exists. If he/she/it really
wanted to demand something, I am not hard to find, and God probably knows
my schedule.

					--Judex--
From: J024330@lmsc5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Test:  Ignore
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:41:37 GMT


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