HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: new CD single
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:15:43 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep28.043831.14762@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.223556.16692@en.ecn.purdue.edu> prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep26.181051.6950@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>>>The set will comprise a 5" CD of each of the Beatles original twenty-two 
>>>singles, from 'Love Me Do' through to 'Let It Be.'
>>Wait ... a 5" disc for EACH single?!?!?  TWENTY-TWO FULL-SIZED DISCS?!?!?
>>Each on with probably no more than FIVE minutes used on EACH?!?!?
>>
>>Please tell me I'm reading this wrong ...
>Nope, I read this in the same manner you do.  Twenty-two 5" CD's, with one CD
>for each vinyl single.  However, I also read this meaning that the *only*
>way these will be available is in the boxed set.  If the box set goes for a
>reasonable price (ca. $50.00), it wouldn't be too bad a deal.

I seriously doubt EMI will do this, considering that they charged about
twice as much for half as many discs for the EP set ...

Sorry for being skeptical, but EMI really must enjoy screwing the public
when it comes to the Beatles' releases.  This looks to me like yet another
example.

-- 
( David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu                                 )
( "Well now, what can a poor boy do, 'cept to sing for a rock-n-roll band?" )
(  -The Rolling Stones, "Street Fighting Man"                               )
From: bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: McCartney CD bonus tracks
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:31:12 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep25.041451.24503@menudo.uh.edu>, edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
> McCartney II: none
> 

Not to pick nits, but I have seen several CD copies of McCartney II in stores
with "Check my Machine" and "Secret Friend" (possibly another, I don't recall
and don't have the CD, *yet*).  These to songs are *not* on my vinyl copy of
McCartney II.

While I am thinking of this album, does anyone out there besides me actually
*like* it?  I mean, it isn't his greatest work, but I certainly don't think it
is his worst (Wild Life fills that category rather nicely, IMHO).

-- jSb

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Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons)
Subject: Re: Beatle "beeps"
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:44:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.171109.24964@pellns.alleg.edu> mccombj@alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs) writes:
>In article <lc646iINNaq7@news.bbn.com> rgranvil@bbn.com (Rob Granville)  
>writes:
>
>I would use the beginning of "Revolution" (not the White Album track, but  
>the "single") -- John screaming "aagggggghhhhh!"

The scream is done by Paul not John. If you check out the Imagine video
that came out around 1988, they show a live performance of this. I think 
they did this on the David Frost show.

Don Coons
dwc@wnb3b2.att.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons)
Subject: Re: Welcome to r.m.b.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:07:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.163513.22039@eos.arc.nasa.gov> brody@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Adam R. Brody ) writes:
>dlm3@quads.uchicago.edu (saki) writes:
>
>>	Also available are the articles above, if you prefer FTP.
>
>>	Use "ftp" as follows:
>>		ftp bobcat.bbn.com
>>		(user name) anonymous
>>		(password) your-name    [please? Not just "guest", etc.]
>>		cd beatles
>>		cd noteson   [for Alan's notes]  or cd welcome [ for saki's]
>>		dir
>>		get <whatever you want>
>
>
>I just tried this and failed.  I was able to log on, with my
>name as password but was not allowed to cd beatles.  What did I
>do wrong?

I'm not sure what you did wrong, but I just tried the sane thing and had
no problem getting the files I wanted. Maybe you should try again.

     Don Coons
     dwc@wnb3b2.att.com
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "The Making of Sgt. Pepper"
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:37:47 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>> Re: interview with...
>>>Phil Collins (?)...
>>
>> The only reason I can see for this (maybe two reasons) is that a) he's
>> a drummer (he is, isn't he?) and b) he was an extra in the final
>> concert footage of "A Hard Day's Night". As far as being a drummer,
>> his comments were apropos of Ringo's technique.
>
>ANother reason is that in the UK Phil is very popular indeed and is a
>member of what we might call the Pop Establishment.

So is the Queen, but what does she know about the Beatles?

I don't care what Phil Collins has to say, especially about the Beatles.

-- 

+-| Paul Lewis |--| Jonestown: WLVR 91.3fm  Monday 11pm-1am |-+-------------+
|  'I'd love to turn you on.'                  -The Beatles   |     1       |
|  'You should be with us, feeling like we do  -Perry Farrell |    2 3      |
|   like you love to, but never will again.'                  |             |
|  'You never had the answers!'                -Ministry      | Renaissance |
|  'We could have changed the world.'          -B. Wayne      | Productions |
From: wallace@quazar.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Linda on NPR's 'Fresh Air'
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:24:35 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Wenesday 9/23 Linda Mc Interviewed by Terry Gross during last 10 minutes
of N.P.R. 's Fresh Air (This was a broadcast in the Boston area).

I only caught the last 3 minutes or so. Questions about Linda's
photog book (Lost in the 60's??)  

Gross did ask her about being in the band and it seemed to put
the hair on Linda's neck up  bit.

Not verbatim quote but something to the effect "I'm not really good
but Paul wants me involved and the boys don't seem to mind and I quite
enjoy it." (Please add Semi-Liverpudlian accent every other word)

Would have been nice if Gross asked some more "band" questions but
I guess Linda was there to Plug the book first.

Anyone hear the whole thing?
From: prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: HELP (Mono vs. Stereo)
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:54:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <_3#pkz=@lynx.unm.edu> ehenry@hydra.unm.edu (Elizabeth Henry CIRT-IRC) writes:
>The tell-tale difference can be found on the mono version where
>John tears into the second chorus.  His phrasing of the word
>"Help" the second time he sings "Help me if you can..." has
>almost a cry in it.  It's really moving.  

Somebody earlier mentioned that the stereo version sounded more passionate,
but I agree that I much more apperciate the single mix.  It just sounds a
bit more ... desperate, which fits in with the theme of the lyrics, IMHO.

-- 
( David Prokopy - prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu                                 )
( "Well now, what can a poor boy do, 'cept to sing for a rock-n-roll band?" )
(  -The Rolling Stones, "Street Fighting Man"                               )
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: johniac@johniac.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: Magical Misery Tour ?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:58:42 GMT
Reply-To: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division, Austin, TX

In article <1992Sep30.092203.9743@jyu.fi>, ptee@jyu.fi (Tuomas Eerola) writes:
|> 	J. Robertson ( The art & Music of John Lennon) tells in his books
|> 	acknowledgements that the most brilliant portrayal of Lennon is to
|> 	be found at "Magical Misery Tour", from the makers of National Lampoon.
|> 	I wonder if this book is still available from somewhere or someone,
|> 	because I liked Robersons book and I am eager to read more.

This isn't a book but rather a track from one of the National Lampoon
albums that came out in the '70s.  It's basically a bunch of random
Lennon quotes from the "Lennon Remembers" interviews set to music. 
It's hilarious.

-- 
John Iacoletti       IBM AWD Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"It takes a big man to cry.  And it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man."
                                                              -- Jack Handey
From: williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Readership Statistics
Date: 6 Oct 1992 18:58:49 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: williasr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Steven R. Williams)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g222-13.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu


In rec.music.beatles article <1992Oct5.164408.6352@menudo.uh.edu> you  
wrote:
>          +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group,  
worldwide.
>          |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
>          |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group  
at all
>          |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
>          |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per  
month)
>          |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
>          |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio:  
$US/month/rdr
>          |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of  
newsrders
>          |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this  
group.
>          V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
> 
>  
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
-----  
> 517  17000   560   73%   478   762.1     1%  0.06   1.2%   The numbers  
for r.m.b for September  
 
> 505  33000   722   74%   339   601.0     0%  0.04   1.3% 
  The numbers for r.m.b for August

Where do these numbers come from....if I'm reading this right it says that  
the numbers of readers has dropped from 33,000 to 17,000 in one month....I  
find this hard to believe.

Can someone explain this to me,
Steven Williams
--
-williasr@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
------------------------------------------------------
"Take my smile and my heart they were yours from the start"
From: st1t0@elroy.uh.edu (CARL SEILER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "The Making of Sgt. Pepper"
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:04:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: elroy.28SEP199220043024
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Is "The Making of Sgt. Pepper" available on videotape or will it
be in the future?  I don't have cable, yet I would like to see 
the show at least once.

Carl Seiler                         |  Department of Econonmics
Graduate Student                    |  University of Houston
ST1T0@jetson.uh.edu                 |
Neither I nor anyone else is responsible for what I post.  It may be generally
considered hogwash, nonsense, and dribble.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: nmrdev@sadtler.com (NMR Development)
Subject: Re: "bootlegs"
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:10:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.231209.27658@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st902440@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>I'm new here, so I haven't seen if anyone has previously addressed this....
>but I just purchased a couple of "bootlegs," namely a volume from the 
>'Unsurpassed Masters" series and one from the "Ultra Rare Trax" series. They 
>have a lot of really interesting studio outtakes, etc., and althouh they were 
>a relative ripoff ($21-$25 a pop) I'm going to look for some more...I wonder 
>if anyone knows about these or other 'bootleg' series, and how did they come 
>about-ie, who could get ahold of the studio tapes, and so
>
>
>
>
> 
>on.

The "Unsurpassed Masters" series is a must for any beatles collector.  I
know volumes 1 - 7 exist plus "Unsurpassed Demos", "Acetates" and a couple
of Get Back session CD's.  All of these titles are on the "Yellow Dog" label.
( You will see on the front cover of each CD a small yellow dog with a white
foot. )  Yes, they are pricey but the seller can get away with it.  As of now, 
anything that Yellow Dog has released regarding the Beatles is top-notch, but
I think you will not need to purchase any of the CD versions of "Ultra Rare
Trax" since the music is duplicated on the Yellow Dog CDs. 
Personally, I like to call CD's of this type "Imports", because the B word 
tends to get some people in a huff.  As to how the manufactures came into 
posession of these outtakes ---- I always say "I don't know and I don't want
to know".

-- 
Dan Sears                                       Email:  djs@sadtler.com
   "I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say 
    things.  More I cannot say" - the man who rules the Universe
Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia
From: marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: RE:Beatle beeps
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:29:33 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

how about:
my baby don't care
oh darling
now junior, bahave yourself
but you can't hear me
sing it again
my finger on your trigger
this is actually too easy.  'till greater needs arise, FM
From: rberry@sheltie.chapel-hill.nc.us (Robert Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "The Making of Sgt. Pepper" on Disney
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 23:51:18 EDT
Organization: SkyNet

US30139@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU writes:

> Here's a thought.  Wouldn't it be grand if 4-track cassettes were available
> to play back Pepper like George Martin did.  Just take your 4-track
> cassette recorder--like a Tascam or Fostex--and be able to listen to Pepper
> in parts.

Great minds think alike. :-)  I had this thought some time ago, probably
after reading Lewisohn for the first time.  By listening to various
released versions and bootlegs, and reading The Book, it's possible to
form a pretty good idea of how a particular track was recorded.  But
nothing could compare to actually having access to the multitrack tape
and mixing it yourself -- soloing the French horns on "Sgt. Pepper's
Lonely Hearts Club Band" (like GM did in the special) or whatever.
Since it's unlikely I'll ever be allowed to play with the real tapes in
the EMI archives, that would be the next best thing.  (Sadly, however, I
am quite sure it will never happen.)

By the way, did I understand George Martin correctly when he was
discussing (and playing) "Strawberry Fields Forever" for us?  We all
know the story of the two versions of the song that were eventually
spliced together to form the released version.  But Martin played
*three* different versions of the song.  The first was a very simple
one, very beautiful and delicate, with little more than guitar, bass,
drums, and vocal.  The second was the Mellotron version and the third
was the strings-and-brass version.

I checked Lewisohn, and he makes no mention of that first, simple
version. What's the explanation?  Does it appear on any bootlegs?  I
thought it was gorgeous, and I'd love to hear the whole thing.


:: Robert Berry
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: THRILLINGTON
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:04:28 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc12

Re: A bootleg? Made in Australia? Yeah, right...

I'm interpreting this as disbelief. The address listed is probably rubbish
anyway, if anyone remembers it was me that checked the Record Company
address listed at a non-existant address in Karangehape Road, Auckland,
New Zealand.

However, I recently read a long article on bootlegging. Part of the 
article mentioned that there were places in Korea and *Australia* that
could get you a short CD run done quite quickly with few questions asked.

But, then I've never seen a CD made in Korea. Do they make them?

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: marulanda@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatle "beeps"
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:59:14 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <lc646iINNaq7@news.bbn.com>, rgranvil@bbn.com (Rob Granville) writes:
> I think it's time to start a frivolous thread.
> 
>My MAC LC came with a microphone which, among other things, allows me to
> record my own "beep" sounds ---such as
> 	I'm a loser...
> 	I've got blisters on my fingers!
> 
> So the question is what other "beeps" should/would loyal rmbers use? Keep
> in mind it should be short and probably be in response to an error. Here
> are a few more ideas:
> 	Help!
> 	Oh dear, what can I do?
> 	I'm crying
> 	No, no, no
>   Hold it!
> 	I'm down
> 
> I've got more ideas, but I want to give others a chance.
>  How about:
When I feel my finger in your trigger
My baby don't care
But you can't hear ME
Now junior, behave yourself
Oh Darling
You make me feel allright
>This is too easy. FM
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: McCartney CD bonus tracks
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 03:02:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.202332.18345@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>
>>OK.  Macca CD's, and the Bonus cuts.
>
>>Band on the Run: none
>                  ^^^^
>Doesn't 'Helen Wheels' make it on a technicality, as it was
>added to the American version (and not British ?) at the last
>minute. (Album, that is, I don't mean the last minute of the
>CD release.)
>

Yes, "Helen Wheels" is on the American LP, but not the British.

As to "HW" being a bonus cut, kind of, but not really.  
Depends upon when you purchased the CD.

The original (US) release was on Columbia, and included "Helen Wheels."

Along the way, a British pressing of the CD came out that did *not*
have "Helen Wheels."

After Macca re-signed with Capitol, and the catalog reverted back to them,
one of their first acts was to re-issue "Band on the Run" on CD.  However,
they used the British masters, so the CD was lacking "HW."  After some
complaints, they re-included the song on the CD.

Enough to make your head spin, or at least turn around a few times...

<ESC>


-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)

                                
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: lennon's death
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:30:16 GMT

I know this is a FAQ, but we need to know the exact date of Lennon's
death for a trivia game for which we write the questions. Please
respond ASAP and before Sunday 4 October to Scordova@epas.utoronto.ca
or dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: djs@sadtler.com (Dan J. Sears)
Subject: Re: The Beatles Reunions 74 & 92
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:31:15 GMT

In article <6342@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement) writes:
>I've just bought a CD called:
>
>The Beatles Reunions 74 & 92.
>
>The '74 part has the band: John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder
>			   Jessie Ed Davis, Harry Neilson (sic),
>			   Bobby Keyes.
>And the songs: 1) Studio Play (warming up)
>	       2) Blues Jam
>	       3) Talk Part (guess!)
>	       4) Lucille
>	       5) Nightmares
>	       6) Stand by me (A)
>	       7) Stand by me (B)
>	       8) Stand by me (C)
>	       9) A Medley (Cupid, Chain Gang, Take this hammer)
>
>The '92 part has the band: George Harrison, Ringo Starr
>(not mentioned, but Gary Moore is announced on the tape).
>
>Does anyone know if the '74 part is for real? I suspect a fake somehow.
>For one the quality is a bit too good. What I think may have happened is
>that they took rehersal tapes for Rock and Roll, and overdubbed someone
>who sounds sorta like Macca onto it. Then, it might be real. Does anyone
>know if Macca dropped in on the R&R sessions at any time. What about 
>Stevie Wonder?
>

  The '74 part is real.  It was copied from a Mistral CD release called
  "A Toot And A Snore In '74".  The 'Toot' refers to the drug of choice
  that day and 'Snore' refers to the quality of their performance.
  McCartney played drums on the session even though he is barely 
  vocally audible.  The other people listed in the band is correct, though
  their performance is pathetic ( Lennon is in a fine mood - obviously drunk
  and coked-up. ) I have owned this CD for many months and have only
  listened to it once, and even that was a torture.  Clearly this session
  is only valuable for historical purposes.

-- 
Dan Sears                                         Email:  djs@sadtler.com
   "I say what it occurs to me to say when I think I hear people say 
    things.  More I cannot say." - the man who rules the Universe (HGTTG)
Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia
From: Christer.Gullstrand@malmo.trab.se (Christer Gullstrand)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Wonderwall Music
Keywords: Wonderwall; Ashton Gardner and Dyke; Bee Gees; the German language
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:46:31 GMT
Organization: Telia Research, Malmo, Sweden

In article <1992Sep28.193737.18637@news.columbia.edu> brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan) writes:
>A couple of months ago we were discussing the film "Wonderwall" for
>which George Harrison did the soundtrack.  I ran across a reference to
>the job being offered to the Bee Gees first, which was news to me and
>everyone else here.  Here is some more information on "Wonderwall".

...

>The date of "early 1967" seems wrong.  To me, Lewisohn's reference to
>
>Eines der Projekte, die schon 1967 o"ffentlich diskutiert wurden, war

It's not "early 1967", but "as early as 1967".
So the article seems correct enough. Interesting stuff!

Christer
From: knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:31:34 GMT
Subject: Re: Magical Misery Tour ?
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

> 
> This isn't a book but rather a track from one of the National Lampoon
> albums that came out in the '70s.  It's basically a bunch of random
> Lennon quotes from the "Lennon Remembers" interviews set to music. 
> It's hilarious.
> 

Anyone remember the National Lampoon magazine that was dedicated
to the Beatles? From ~ '77. The cover showed the Abbey Road album
cover, but with all 4 Beatles flattened  by a steam roller. It was
quite funny.

Tom

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