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From: schliep@bach.udel.edu (Alexander Schliep)
Subject: Where to buy guitars on the east coast?
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:38:44 GMT

Sorry if this is a FAQ,
but im a looking for a new guitar. I would like to get something like
a Telecaster. I ve played one of the G&L telecasters (the one with
a $1199 list price, it was on sale for $799. Good deal??) and was quite
impressed. Any opinions and recommendations appreciated.

Which shops can you recommend in either
Delaware and the adjacent areas of PA,MD,NJ.

or NYC or Washington,DC.

Thanks a lot.
Alexander

schliep@bach.udel.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: hookman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Andrew R Hill)
Subject: Re: Hollowbody f-hole guitar wanted
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:49:17 GMT

Wow!! 

Thanks folks, for all the feedback; once I sell my Ovation12 I will look
seriously around for a Gibson series 125 (prob a 125C, or 125CD to get
better unplugged sound...) any other advice will be welcome :)

fret not

fret.


-Andrew
(hookman)


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: maclean@ctt.bellcore.com (Andrew MacLean)
Subject: Classical -> Electric, MIDI; How? 
Followup-To: maclean@ctt.bellcore.com 
Organization: Bellcore 
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:30:13 GMT

I've been a classical player for a long time, but have recently 
got interested in MIDI and would like to purchase an electric
guitar plus the MIDI conversion gear. 

Unfortunately, I know nothing about electric guitars. 
I would like a guitar with a sweet sound (Dire Straights comes to mind), 
and that plays well without a plectrum.
A wide neck would ease the transition. Cost; up to $1500.
Also, what`s a good converter? Is there any way I can MIDIize my classical?
Any ideas would be welcome.

-- 

Andy 
______________________________________________DQID: K03678
maclean@ctt.bellcore.com TEL:908-699-3935 FAX:908-336-2969  
RRC-1J222,  Bellcore, 444 Hoes Lane, Piscataway, NJ  08854
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: REQ: Name of SRV's new CD
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:06:18 GMT
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Stevie Ray Vaughn and Double Trouble : In The Beginning
SONY EPIC EK53168

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Maurice LaBiche   |   labiche@bnr.ca 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:35:32 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

In article <1687DA0E2.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu writes:

   I have a Deep Philosophical Question that I hope will inspire some discussion.
   Which impresses you more, a guitar player who does new and interesting things b
   y playing around with weird tunings, or a player who does amazing things by wor
   king within the restrictions of standard tuning? I realize this is probably and
    unfair question, and I'm not sure how I feel about it. Whattya think?

what really impresses me is a musician who has a song inside, and then
uses whatever means are necessary to play it.

i don't think that it would have made so much difference if coltrane
had picked up a trumpet first, or if reinhardt had been given a violin
instead of a guitar.  they were inspired people, and the music would
have found it's way out somehow.

before i get too deep (in philosophy, or anything else) maybe i should
just mention that i'm glad that coltrane didn't pick up an accordion,
and i'm thankful that django wasn't given a tuba.

--
jonathan byrd
jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
From: jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: FOR SALE:  BOSS SE-50 Stereo Effects Processor
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:05:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

well, I'm looking at the Musician's Friend catalog, and it says $550 list, 
sale price $460, so the price is not all that bad.  I seriously doubt you boughtone for $275 new, that's half list, and it's rare that other stores ever sell
lower than mail order.  If you did get it at that price, give me the store name!

Mike
From: fredh@cv.hp.com (Fred Handloser)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: 60 cycle single pickup hum
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:44:44 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

: Put a small capacitor accross the live and the earth.
: (OF YOUR GUITAR, NOT THE MAINS)
: This can be done in the guitar, or inside the plug of the lead. 
: 100pF (NOT electrolytic) should do the trick.
: 

Will a wireless setup eliminate this 60 cycle hum ?

  --------------------------------------------------------------------
  Fred Handloser
  Corvallis, Oregon
  fredh@cv.hp.com   
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rfries@sceng.ub.com (Robert Fries)
Subject: amp project
Organization: Ungermann Bass
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:53:22 GMT

Does anyone out there know a GOOD source for Fender Amp parts. I'm trying to
locate TWO 024038 output transformers, as used in the Fender Champ 12.

These are for a project, as described in 2/92 issue of GLASS AUDIO MAGAZINE.
This project is to make a quiet, powerful, versatile little amp
out of a gutted Fender Champ. It's interesting reading, and looked like a fun
thing to do. But I'm stuck on the output transformer.

I ordered 2 of these through a local amp repair shop, and Fender substituted
the old Champ transformer, intended for a 3.2 ohm speaker. So now I have
3 transformers I don't want. Apparently Fender can't provide these for me
anymore. They also couldn't provide the Mallory quad filter cap listed in
the article, but this I can work around.

Any hints, ideas, suggestions?

Thanks in advance,
Robert

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Robert Fries
Ungermann-Bass Inc.

DISCLAIMER:
    Opinions contained herein are my own, and are not necessarily those
    of Ungermann-Bass.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:8905 rec.music.makers:10212
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Peavey T40 bass (Collector's item?)
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:21:43 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <29372@life.ai.mit.edu> jlew@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jeremy Lew) writes:
>From: jlew@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jeremy Lew)
>Subject: Peavey T40 bass (Collector's item?)
>Date: 14 Oct 92 19:34:39 GMT




>I've recently acquired a Peavey T40 bass.  I've been told that this
>particular model is a collector's item.  Does anyone out there know
>whether this is accurate, and if so, how much the bass is approximately
>worth?

>-JL

I have one also.  I'd say it's worth about $50.00
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: StratoFAQ - First Posting (all about Stratocasters)
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:44:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.134953.4282@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl>, templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon) writes:

> Trendy heavy metal abominations.
> 
>    [USA] H.M. Strat Ultra

You know, when I first saw one of these, I felt the same.  "What a piece of
Junk.  It's just a Eddie Vah Halen, Charvel, Jackson ripoff"  thought I. 
"900 dollars???  NO WAY".  That was in 1988, about when they were first
released.  About two years later, I was cruising the music stores in Atlanta
and I noticed that H.M. Strats were being sold for less than half price in
most of the stores.  Finally, I actually picked one up and played it.  It
has kind of a wide neck (17" ??) which I like (ok, ok, it could be slightly
narrower, but only slightly), and it has large frets.  I don't care for the
smaller, dinky frets on a lot of strats.  So I liked the neck.  The guitar
has American Standard Strat pickups in the neck and middle positions and a
Dimarzio Humbucker by the bridge (with coil tap).  When the humbucker is
tapped, the second position (middle pickup and bridge) gets a good
out-of-phase sound.  To my surprise, I discovered that I really liked the
guitar.  I found one for $400 in Jackson Music, Newnan Ga. (good place if
you are ever in the area - fair selection, good prices) and bought it.  I
should mention that I don't play Heavy Metal.  My little group plays a weird
variety of country, rock, r&b, easy-listening (all depends on the gig).  The
H.M. Strat can get a wide variety of tones and is good for several different
styles of music.

Some cons of the H.M. Strat - It has a Kahler Bridge that is designed like a
Floyd Rose (???  hey that's what the owner's booklet said).  I had trouble
tuning the thing until I blocked the bridge with a piece of wood.  Now it
stays in tune as well as any guitar I have ever seen.  Also, you need an
alan wrench to change strings.  Totally a major pain dude!!!  

I would be interested in seeing a redesign of this guitar:  different bridge
(one that stays in tune, maybe even a hard-tail), a roller type nut (ie:
like the Strat Plus), locking tuners (Strat Plus).  The pickups are ok (the
single coils could be QUIETER, but they have a good tone, so leave'em alone
for now).  That's about it.

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 21:12:51 -0400 
From: Nicolas Alejandro Arauz <na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Peavey's Ecoustic guitar

Has anyone had a chance to try out Peavey's new Ecoustic guitar?  It's a
shallow-bowl acoustic/electric guitar with low-impedence output.  I
haven't seen them out yet, but maybe one of you guys have.  Thanks!
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: m713@hosp.med.umich.edu
Subject: Re: National Resphonic Company, California
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: m713@hosp.med.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:58:48 GMT

In  <1992Oct8.153543.11934@lsa.umich.edu>  m713@hosp.med.umich.edu writes:
> In  <92280.224131PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu>  <PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> > Does anybody have any experience with this company?  They make reporduction
> > Nationals.
> >
> > How do they sound (especially the jazz/blues model)?
> >
> > Thanks.  Craig (via Paula)
>
>
> The one I played a 1930's copy of a Triolian sounded, looked and
> felt great.


This is an append to my previous reply.

The above Triolian sells for about $1700-1800 here in Michigan. Contact
Elderly Instruments in Lansing, MI about getting it (mail order equals
no sales tax on your end, shipping should be about 20-30 $).

The price of vintage Nationals has gone thru the roof lately. I recently
saw a 1931 Duolian in so-so condition going for $2000. I think its probably
the rockers on MTV causing this. They like to pose with Nationals because
they think they look cool. I've noticed the same phenomena with accordians
and stand-up basses. Rock bass players like to "pose" with upright basses, and
the vast majority IMHO can't play one. It's obvious when you see the way
the "fret" the neck and how they attack the strings with their right
hand.  Crazy world aint it???
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (unbelievable AXE diety)
Subject: Re: Where to buy guitars on the east coast?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:36:29 GMT

>you can almost always get a good price at sam ash in new jersey.  i think  
>it's on route 17 or route 4.  they'll usually haggle with you and if  
>you've got cash they'll go the extra mile to make the sale.

>steam


I think I need to put my $.02 in here since I live literally a ten minute walk
away from that particular store.

Sam Ash Music is located on Route 4 in Paramus, NJ (It's very close to the 
intersection of rts 4 and 17, so it is easy to get confused). It's fairly
good-sized store (as far as music stores go), and it is next to a furniture
place, right beside an overpass of Farview Avenue.

I have personally never bought anything there except for a pack of
acoustic strings for my dad, but I do know that my friend Danny got a
GREAT deal on a used KORG digital effects processor.  The people who
worked there seemed pretty friendly (no doubt they work on commission
;-).

	Sincerely,
	-juggle-
From: emilio@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (emilio guzman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Chord sustain
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:11:14 GMT
Reply-To: emilio@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (emilio guzman)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: emilio@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu

I've have a problem that's annoying the hell out of me.  Everytime I want
to sustain a distorted power chord, I get a delay type sound.  Is it my
humbuckers or is it my amp?  Someone please help!!!
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 15:00:14 PST
From: <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Callouses

In article <1992Oct7.091522.3922@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>, djones@dcs.warwick.ac.uk
(Drunk) says:
>
>        I was wonderin if anybody out there knew of someway to protect
>callouses from water? Only I'd quite like to go swimming a lot but don't wanna
>lose my extremely hard earned bits of skin.

Not to worry.  After playing a bit you get callouses.  After playing a bit
longer the skin on one's fingertips goes through a change and becomes a new
type of you.  This new skin isn't a callous but it sure ain't the old "softy"
you either.  Water won't change it, soaking won't wear it away.  So go
swimming, take long showers and fret not (bad play on words I know), your
fingertips will not require retoughening.

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        Lazlo Toth
From: quint@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Quint)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Mucking around with Nuts..
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:43:01 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

My first guitar was/is a cheap Yamaha strat copy.  I noticed that the low
E string was buzzing a lot on the low frets, near the nut.  Raising the 
action at the bridge didn't help since the buzz was on the frets so far away.
At the time, I didn't have notes access, so I didn't get to ask any of
the more experienced net people what to do/avoid.  If I had, I might not 
have tried this, but I did and it luckily it works fine.          

I mixed up some epoxy and put just a little bit in the nut groove for the
low E string.  It dries clear so its not visible, and its hard enough to
hold up the string without getting worn down.  Raise it just a little at 
first, and if its not enough (as was the case with me) you can raise it more.
If you find that its too high, or you don't like it later, you can file
it out or chip it out with a sharp knife.  I have had no problems with 
mine in the 3+ years since I did it, and it fixed my problem.  

Good luck,
Chris
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:8685 alt.guitar.bass:1558 alt.rock-n-roll.metal:10856
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 12:19:52 PST
From: <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: need opinions on learning to play
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct7.135543.16143@husc3.harvard.edu>, mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu
(Michael Levin) says:
>
>    I'd like opinions on the following. I want to eventually learn to
>play the electric guitar, with the goal of playing my favorite tunes
>(which is mostly metal - Iron Maiden, Metallica, Black Sabbath, etc.)
>or possibly making up some new ones. This is to be purely for my own
>enjoyment - I don't have any friends who play other instruments, and I
>don't want to start a band. I'm 23, and have had no musical training
>whatsoever (although I do have perfect pitch, and my mother was a
>concert pianist). I'd like answers to the following:
>1) is it possible to learn at this age? how hard is it? will I ever be
>   able to play fast metal songs?

Yes it's possible to learn at any age.  It's damn hard to learn to play well.
If you practice a WHOLE lot you can play anything you choose.

>2) What do I need in terms of equipment, and how much is it likely to
>cost?

A guitar, an amp and a couple of cords.  A professional-type set-up runs
from about $500 to the limit of your Gold MasterCard.

>         What's the difference between an ordinary elecrtic guitar and
>   a bass guitar?

Two strings and an octave.

>3) What do I do to find quality instruction?

From quality instructors.  Ask 'em to play for you.  If they can play what you
want to learn there's an off chance they teach it to you.

Flip-answer mode off:  Music is like everything in life, you get out of it what
you put into it.  If you're determined to play well and willing to spend the
time required YOU WILL LEARN TO PLAY WELL.  If it's just a fun thing for you
then have fun with it.  Remember the people you listen to on record are, for
the most part, serious musicians (although talent has never been a criterion
for success) involved in one of the most competitive, and fickle, professions
on the planet.  They got where they are because they made sacrifices in other
areas of their lives.  Most of us netters, even those in bands, are doing stuff
other than music to make a living.  We just love making music.  And talking
about it with other folks who feel the same way.

Didn't some damn shoe company offer sage advice when it said:  "Just do it."

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        Randy Rhodes
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Guitar Modifications SUCCESS!!!
From: Michael.Bremford@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mike Bremford)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:33:39 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.


In article <1ao2ovINNn6a@gap.caltech.edu>, deadhead@cco.caltech.edu (stephen
thompson) writes:
|>
|> Then I moved on to the guitar's innards.  I replaced the 5-position strat
|> switch with 2 on/on toggle switches and 1 on/on/on toggle switch, which all
|> fit nicely into the slot where the 5-position switch was taken out.  These
|> toggle switches gave me the following 12 selections...bridge alone, middle
|> alone, neck alone, bridge&middle in series, middle&neck in series, bridge&neck
|> in series, bridge&middle&neck in series, bridge&middle in parallel, middle&
|> neck in parallel, bridge&neck in parallel, bridge&middle&neck in parallel,
|> and bridge&neck in series with bridge in parallel.  Next, I replaced my two
|> tone pots with push/pull pots, which allows me to put the neck and middle
|> pickups out of phase, which, in effect, allows me to throw any pickups or
|> combination of pickups out of phase whenever more than one pickup is selected.
|> 

I would LOOOVE to see the cirduit for this - It sounds like just what I want to
do to my guitar. Would it be possible to post/mail it, maybe scanned and in
Postscript for easy reading. If you can't manage that, any format/info at all
would be sweet...

	Cheers... Mike
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: marck@nwu.edu (Jater & Co.)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE:  BOSS SE-50 Stereo Effects Processor
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: NU ACNS
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:40:50 GMT

In article <ldlp85INNh8f@west.west.sun.com>, mjm@sun.com (Michael Marchi -
Santa Clara Systems Eng) wrote:
> 
> The one you have seen advertised...
> 
> Bought for $529.  Selling for $350!!!


you paid 	WHAT for the SE-50?

i got mine new from a store for $275.

i'm sorry ... a few bucks above the asking price i can understand, but ....


mlb
From: drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Doug Puchalski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: lefty woes
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:42:41 GMT
Reply-To: drp40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA

In article <1992Oct8.013312.19038@ra.msstate.edu>, tsw1@Isis.MsState.Edu (Thomas S Wilson) writes:
>Some of these lefties are a little too obsessed... So obsessed that hthey 
>don't see the adventage of playing right handed guitars. I started out
>playing violin, so AI had no choice, but if you think about it, on a left
>handed guitar, you RIGHT hand is doing all the work! Why do you put yourselves
>though this? just because you insist on being a lefty? Hell I gave up on 
>those damn left handed scissors long ago. they were ugly... now that I think 
>about it.. left handed guitars are pretty ugly too! =:) but at least they 
>don't have green handles and "LEFTY" stamped on the sides.

They don't make Steve Vai Ibanez Jem leftys??

I'm not a lefty.  Say I'm wrong.  But once you get over the learning curve
of playing right handed, you'll save plenty of money...

-- 
Doug Puchalski						   Death to all smileys
drp40@cd.amdahl.com
dpuchals@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: META000 <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Distortion pedal question
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 18:19:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.154242.19367@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> sihd_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dan Shimmyo) writes:
>
>  Last night I decided to plug in my old Ibanez Fat Cat distortion pedal and
>realised that I really hated the sound I was getting.  The main reason I hate
> it so much is that it gives such a week attack and the distortion isn't very
>'heavy'... Whatever the case, I've been using a Zoom 9001 for a couple years
>just because it sounded so much better than my pedals.  I've been wanting
> to go back to the simplicity of effect pedals since I have problems with the
>Zoom on stage and at practice. It's great in the studio.
>  Here's the question. Could the reason I hate my pedals be that I'm not using
>it thru a 'guitar' amp? I use a Peavey KB100. It sounds great with the Zoom
>since the Zoom has a chip that simulates a guitar amplifier or something. So,
>if I go get a guitar amp will I change my mind about my pedal and actually
>begin to use it again?
>  Also anyone have any great things to say about the ADA MP-1?
>
>      Dan.
>.
>.
Okay, admittedly a rather naive response, but ON TOP of whatever
timbral changes are introduced by switching between amps and such,
my gues is that we're dealing with a difference between analog and
digital domains in terms of how they respond to different signal
levels.  Your Fat Cat is set up to precipitate a catastrophe that
results in lots of harmonics.  The quality of that catastrophe is a
function of the signal it receives and how it's set up.  Your Zoom,
on the other hand, strikes me as set up to follow a processing
algorithm, which, assuming the signal level is passed some minimum
level, will produce pretty much the same sound.  Could it be that
you aren't pushing your Fat Cat hard enough?  Have you tried any
signal boosting ahead of it?  For that matter, is there a way you
can use some appropriate EQ-ing or other processing in your Zoom,
and condition the signal to get the most out of the Fat Cat?

Mark
From: paiz@Ingres.COM (Hide the beer, the pastor's here!)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: ***GUITAR, PRACTICE AMP, SOFT CASE FOR SALE*****
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:35:12 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

**********FOR SALE:  GUITAR, AMP, & ACCESSORIES!!!**********


SQUIER II SRAT by FENDER --->  Red and white, 3 months old,
                               still has plastic lining, hardly used

CRATE GX-15 PRACTICE AMP --->  Almost new too!

ACCESSORIES              --->  10 ft Guitar Cord, Powerflex bag

PRICE                    --->  All for $250.00 (OBO)

CONTACT                  --->  PAIZ@INGRES.COM 
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