From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays-Gillick
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:17:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.043952.11594@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <18415@mindlink.bc.ca> Edward_Lunny@mindlink.bc.ca (Edward Lunny) writes:
>
>>5.  The Blue Jays-  Gillick is a miracle worker- gets rid of the "jerk"
>>Gruber and unloads some very potentially expensive clunkers.  ie, Moldonado,
>>Henke, Key, Gruber,Winfield,-   makes the best deal of the off season ie
>>Molitor, and ensures that the beleagured pitching staff gets lots of runs
>>next year. Where else can Jack Morris get 20 wins with an ERA  about 4. I
>>loved what Winfield did for them last year, but got tired of being the back
>>end of the double play.
>
>Gillick a miracle worker?  hardly - the Jays publicity dept, yes.

first of all, he certainly has, in the past five or ten years, been
one of the most brilliant GMs around. he has made mistakes (was he
around for the bill caudill fiasco? ouch) but he has built a solid
team which has had consistent success for a decade.

>
>He lost Key and Cone and he replaces them with Stewart who will not have
>as good a year as either.

from what i have heard cone was not gettable; and stewart and key's
numbers last year were quite similar, as i have admitted in another post.
and in the second half, stewart pitched *much* better than key did.

>Sure he let Gruber go and who has he replaced
>him with?  Nobody.

yet. it's still just december.

>Who has he replaced Maldonado with?  Nobody.

derek bell will be his replacement. if bell doesn't work out, he'll
get someone during the season. that's how he got maldonado...

>Who has he replaced Henke with?  Nobody.

if timlin pitches well, he doesn't need henke. not for $4M/year anyway.

>He doesn't have a shortstop signed.

yet. you want him to do everything in one week?

>And as for Molitor - do you honestly expect him to contribute as much as
>Winfield did last year?  Molitor won't play 90 games this year.

total bull on two counts:

first:
winfield '92:  .290/.377/.491   2/3  SB/CS
molitor  '92:  .320/.389/.461  31/6  SB/CS

very comparable numbers. molitor is also younger. and steals bases.

second: molitor played in 158 games last year, with 609 ABs.
he played in 158 games in '91, with 665 ABs.
90 games? what the hell are you talking about?

>
>His starting pitching is comprised of 2 old farts, a potential phenom and
>a bunch of question marks.  If he doesn't sign Lee then he has lost half
>of the everyday infield, half of his starting pitching, half of a very
>effective relief pair, one of his everyday outfielders, and his full-time
>dh.

i have criticized the rotation too. but there has to be some weakness
on the team; we're not atlanta (:^). and it may not be that bad anyway.
we'll see.

>
>Right on Pat!  Let's rebuild! 

why do they need to rebuild? did they finish in 7th place last year?

>And when the jays go down the toilet this
>year all the stathead dorks in this group will be calling for Cito's head.

that's ok -- they've been calling for cito's head since '89. i don't
think he cares much any more.

the jays may go down the toilet. but hey, that's baseball.
i think they will be competitive.
--
charles
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