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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: tips for Indiana, Ohio ?
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:09:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <BvGL59.JFw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> stresres@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Vanetten) writes:
>Indiana also has a few new Camaro RSs, in the Lafayette-65 area look for a
>bright metallic green and a black one, (less common than the green one), 
>also any dark Mustang LX with a Marines bumper sticker or stuffed Garfield
>in the window.  (Just wait, we probably have one of the gentlemen listening
>in!).  Oh, and one white RS for the city of Lafayette.

Hey! the guy with the stuffed Garfield used to patrol our area a while
ago (State road 21, north of 26). It was a joke as all the seasoned 
commuters had figured him out but not the occasional driver.

Does the mustang guy still have the 'for sale' sign on?

The guy with the metallic Green Camaro shows up once in a while. Both cars
could have been more effective in revenue enhancement if they didn't
just park their rear ends in the same spot every day for a year, (Mustang)
or patrol an area 1/2 mile long up and down, up and down (Camaro).
Where do these coppers go to school, anyway?

>with Limo tint all around. (?WHY?due to the new style, MOST new Caprices are
>cops!!) And also a white full size Blazer with BIG tires.  And West Lafayette

Not really :-). The problem we have with old caprices/old crown vics is
that they had the same styling for 10 years, are popular with area farmers,
(in particular white color) and you'd often see one of these drive
north and think he's a copper. But with the new Caprice, it's a safe bet
that it's a copper. Farmers haven't traded in their old caprices yet.

Another exciting episode in the life of a longtime Indiana commuter...


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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: SPEECH ON SPEEDING W/IMPUNITY
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:54:42 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Sep30.181909.19002@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade) writes:
>>Probably the most effective way to avoid receiving a speeding ticket
>>to become a cop. No cop will ever issue a speeding ticket to another
>>cop. As a cop, you are free to break just about any traffic law you
>>wish, with complete impunity. 

>gee....seems something is not quite right here.  certain people being ABOVE
>the law....sorta like congress exempting themselves from the laws the rest 
>of american has to live by....oh well...i'm sure no one would ABUSE those
>special privilages....

Being a foreign diplomat (the kind with diplomatic plates) also helps.
I`ve read much about this happening in NY, Washington, etc.

Spiros


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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
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From: khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Subject: Re: SPEECH ON SPEEDING W/IMPUNITY
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 12:18:24 GMT

curt@vtucs.cc.vt.edu (Curt Tilmes) writes:

>dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea) writes:

>>8. If you can, let an equally fast driver get about 1/4 mile ahead of 
>>you. On a long cross-country drive on I-80, I've traded "scout" position 
>>with 3 or 4 other drivers for a stretch of 100-200 miles. It allows the 
>>middle drivers to relax a little while the nose and rear guards watch 
>>out.

>This is the key -- cooperation.  Watch the sides of the road for cops,
>and keep watching for the un-marked cops, but also watch the other
>drivers.. they are keeping their eyes peeled also.  If you see the car
>in front of you go around a corner at 70 without seeing his brake
>lights, you can go around there fast also. 

This is not always a valid assumption. The guy going 70 could simply be an
idiot who thinks that, since he has this whiz-bang Escort on his dash, he
doesn't need to watch for cops. So he whips around the corner doing 70 in a 
55 zone, and speeds merrily into a gaggle of 6 unmarked pursuit Mustangs,
one of which has an instant-on Ka gun. He never even knew what hit him.

Meanwhile, you come zooming around the turn, also at 70 MPH, since you have
judged it safe to do so by the absence of brake lights on the lead car.
It'll be an expensive lesson.

Don't get me wrong; I'm all for allowing other fast cars to run interference
for me. In fact, just a couple weeks ago it saved me from a nice 75-in-a-55.
I simply never make assumptions like the above - I keep the same
constant vigil I would if I were the lead car. The brake lights of the guy
in front are just another data point.

>Of course this is all purely conjecture, I would never speed myself.

But of course! ;-)
--
Scott Coleman                                                    tmkk@uiuc.edu

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From: ggg@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Gary Goodlund)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:39:32 GMT
Subject: Re: SCCA, Auto-X, and BMW 2002 question
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving

I think your source may have gotten his "wires crossed".  The 320i was      
introduced in 1977 and I believe the last year of the 2002 (my first 
two cars were 2002s) was 1976. Probably the best years as far as per-
formance was concerned, were 1971 or 1972.  The transmission got away
from the Porsche type syncros and the drive-shaft went from 3 to 4 bolt
U-joints in 1971.  The smog restrictions started getting tighter in '73
and in 1974, the big telescopic rubber bumpers and door bars and even
tighter smog specs were implimented.  If you're interested in Autocrossing
or racing in SCCA ITA or ITB, these earlier cars are more competitive.
The 2002Tii runs in Improved Touring "A" because of its Fuel Injection 
and improved handling. The regular 2002 runs in ITB.

You can have an awful lot of fun with one of these...

Good Luck,
      Gary


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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: 55:  And Then There Were (Please Help)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:15:03 GMT


In article <1a5do1INN6v7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks) writes:
>
>When you do know it is safe to speed without getting caught by highway
>patrol?  A friend told me when you see all the semi tractor-trialer
>truckers speeding that you can assume you are in a safe zone to speed
>until you notice they slow down to 55 again.  
>Any thoughts?

This concept can be generalized to include all fast moving vehicles.
Just the other weekend my butt was saved by some old geezer in a white
Nissan Sentra who was bound and determined to prove that his car was
better than mine. After allowing him to pass me, I sped up and followed
him (he was going around 80 MPH) at a safe distance. Sure enough, as he
topped a small rise, his brake lights came on full. I slowed down just
in time to see a trooper parked at the bottom of the hill. Although he
was alert and spotted the cop in time to slow down himself, even if he
didn't the cop would have nailed him first leaving me free and clear.

This could be called the Roger Ramjet Radar Shield. ;-)

Xref: sparky rec.autos.driving:5930 sci.physics:16062
From: mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,sci.physics
Subject: Re: LIDAR workings (was Re: Laser Jammer Sighting?)
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:36:12 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
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ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei) writes:
: 
: (3) The receiver is probably as inexpensive as possible, and relies
: more on time domain intensity variations to identify it's returned
: signal than on precise frequency discrimination.

I would presume that the lidar broadcaster sends out sequence pulses with
very particular shapes, and uses some sort of lock-in receiver or matched
filter to search for only that particular pulse shape, and ignore
all others.  That may make it hard to jam.

: 							Peter Trei	
: 							ptrei@mitre.org
: 							N1MNV
: 

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From: etnbkkc@hisoy.etn.ericsson.se (Karlsen Bjorn)
Subject: Re: How Sweden switched (was: Re: on which side of the road do you drive)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AS
	<1992Sep24.144530.15858@linus.mitre.org>
	<1992Sep25.162751.3501@pictel.com>
	<1992Sep25.203611.5815@linus.mitre.org>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:41:39 GMT

Sweden changed to right hand driving September 3. 1967, a
Sunday, (after over 40 years of discussion).

Even if the Swedes drove on the left side, the steering wheel
was on the left side.

Keeping right was not new to the Swedes -- in 1718 king Karl XII
said that they should keep right at meeting. But in 1734 they
changed the rule to keep left at meeting. (No cars then, I
think :-)

In the 1920s they started the discussion about right hand driving.
Denmark, Norway and other countries in Europe was already driving
on the right side. In 1922, 1929, 1939 and 1954 the government
starts discussions, but they lead nowhere.
May 10. 1963 the government decides that Sweden should become a
right hand driving country, and they decide the date September 3.
1967 to be "Dagen H" (the day H). A new comission had a lot of
work to do: 7500 buses had to be rebuilt or swapped with new ones,
bus and taxi stops had to be changed (over 1600 of them in Stockholm
alone). Roadsigns had to be changed, new road marks etc. etc.
The cost of this was calculated to about SEK 600 000 000 and was
paid with an extra car tax in the years 1964-1967 (if this was
Norway, we still would paid that extra tax).
The cars already had the steering wheel on the "right" side, but
they had to change the headlights. Some car importers didn't have
enough headlights, and the police got alot of reports from car
owners who had their new headlights stolen. Opel owners got
permit to drive without "right hand" headlights.

The few people who had permission to drive at the night before
the change had to stop their car at 04.50 and thereafter drive
their car safely to the opposite side, wait to 05.00 and then
drive at the right side of the road.

The special H-logo (see below) was everywhere: as signs along
the roadside, on clothing, as stickers on the dashboard. And
as someone said in an interview in 1967: The reflex of driving
on the left side of the road will not dissappear until year 2020.

So keep those H-stickers on your dashboard for another 28 years :-)
    ___________
   /           \
  /    /       /\
 /    /       /  \        Ugly, I know :-)
/    /_______/    \
\   /       /     /
 \ /       /     /
  \             /
   \___________/

(This was (partly) taken from an article (without permission) in
the Swedish car magazine "Teknikens Vaerld". All spelling and
grammar errors are (C) me :-)

Among other countries that have done the same are: Canada (changed
in the 1920s), Austria and Hungary.

-KKC-  etnbkkc@hisoy.etn.ericsson.se
A Norwegian working for a Swedish company in Norway, hence the .se
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: tips for Indiana, Ohio ?
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:57:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Sep30.234548.21536@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> shultz_ed@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com writes:
>stopped at these two locations but the first one is usually a gimme.  Another
>thing to look out for are Indiana cops in unmarked Mustangs.  Usually, Indiana
>is fairly safe but once in a while (often holidays) they pick a spot and have
>5-6 unmarked Mustangs pulling over cars, often two at a time!

There`s a total of 20 Mustangs for the state; they used to operate in
'lone wolf' mode, usually parked, but now they're doing the 5-6 'stangs
at at time thing.

One of the most classic uses of the Mustangs was during the NCAA Men's
Basketball semi-finals a couple of years ago. The city (Indianapolis)
was full of visitors from out of state; Indy has an interstate loop
surrounding it (I-465) and traffic tends to speed up to 65mph (limit
55) frequently as we don't have much congestion.

To make a short story shorter, the Mustangs were unleashed onto the
visitors, who saw the open roads and sped a bit. Several hundrend
Mustang tickets were issued in a single night or two. Complaints that
the act tarnished the city's image went on for months afterwards.

Spiros



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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: shultz_ed@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Re: tips for Indiana, Ohio ?
Organization: Motorola,Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:45:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.142714.10774@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>
russell@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (russell.w.keating) writes:
>I am taking a trip from Chicago to about Akron, Ohio.  I will be traveling
>on the Indiana Toll Road (80/90) and the Ohio Turnpike (80/90 ?).
>From there I'll be on highway 71.
>
>So Net driving enthusiasts ... what tips can you offer on police tricks
>that I should look out for in Indiana and Ohio?  I heard that the Toll
>roads give you tickets that have the time stamped on them.  When you get off,
>they can tell how fast you were going by the time stamps and can get you for
>speeding.  Is this true?  I have seen the time stamps a long long time ago
>in Indiana, but I don't know if they issue tickets by them.
>
>Any help is appreciated (use of laser, ka, VASCAR, aircraft ...).
>

I moved to Chicago from Ohio and have taken many trips on the tollway back from
Chicago to Ohio.  I heard a rumor a long time ago about the police using the
toll tickets to check for speeding but I really think that this was just a
rumor.  I usually drive non-stop at about 75mph so they could have nailed me
many times over if it was true.  However, the number of cops in Ohio is much,
much higher than what you may be familar with in Illinois and Indiana.  Two
popular hiding spots are:  1) just across the Indiana border at about the 5-10
mile marker and 2) at the Maumee River in Toledo, Ohio.  I have seen dozens
stopped at these two locations but the first one is usually a gimme.  Another
thing to look out for are Indiana cops in unmarked Mustangs.  Usually, Indiana
is fairly safe but once in a while (often holidays) they pick a spot and have
5-6 unmarked Mustangs pulling over cars, often two at a time!

-Ed S.
From: v087mxgb@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Shawn E Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: SCCA, Auto-X, and BMW 2002 question
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Hi,

wasn't sure if this was the right place to post a *driving*
question here in rec.autos.parking ;-)





I seem to recall the *old* BMW 2002's being rather smallish.

I have an opportunity to purchase a 1979 2002 for *dirt*
cheap. I am only interested in it as a hobby car, but can
someone tell me when they enlarged the body style.


I haven't seen the car yet as it is quite a drive.

I know this car evolved into the 3xx series cars. I'd like to
use a smaller (older) 2002 for solo racing, but I am not
sure about the 1979's



TIA


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From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: H. Ross Perot's proposed gas tax
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:40:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: oasys.26053
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos.driving, nau@ssesco.com (William Nau) writes:

>Ok, I can't help myself.  My problem with the gas tax is that it is a poor
>people tax.  Ross with his 3 billion dollars won't even notice it.

It isn't. And for exactly the same reason that the rich won't notice
it, they'll pay most of it. Further statements are made below and in
other posts.

>...  Some poor guy who can barely keep is '77 LTD running will be
>trashed by it.  The percentage of your income that goes to this will

If he can barely afford to keep it running, I imagine that also includes
repairs on an old "luxury" car. Let him get an econobox, like anyone
else who doesn't want to pay the piper. It would save him on repair
costs, too. Overall, I imagine that it will be to the poor's benefit
to move to less expensive to maintain cars that use less gas. It will
also have the desired effect of removing old, run-down, oil-smoke spewing
gas hogs from the road that couldn't pass an emissions test if the exhaust
was split up for ten equivalent cars. (Or do you oppose emissions tests
also?)

>Another problem is the desire to use this to pay off the deficit.  What
>does gas have to do with any of that?  Gas tax should be used to pay for
>roads, cleaning up the enviornment, and other such stuff that is related
>to using it.

Well, gee, remove the debt (although it will be a while) and there will
be more money for all of those things. Look beyond tomorrow or next
week, and what you get for your dime today, and see what it will enable
you to recieve in a few years.

>If you want to tax the people to pay off the nationl debt, be straighforward
>about with an increase in income tax.  At least income tax is intended (note
>the word intended) to be fair.

I'd actually favor a straight, across the board, 10% tax with no loopholes.
According to some article in Fortune or the like, this would bring in
more money than our present complicated system with all its exclusions.
Personally, however, a step beyond this, to encourage those things the
present tax laws do, would be to start with the flat 10% rate and then
add a variable rate subject to exclusions on top of it for those earning
more than a set amount. This could work, but can you imagine the outcry
from the 400+ millionares that filed in 1991, of which several paid
*no* taxes. (that was more than a million in income, in 1991)

Ron                          Think about this one (seen on a bumper sticker):
			     The road to hell is bumper-to-bumper
			     Make a U-turn to God.
The irony is priceless.
From: amb@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: 55:  And Then There Were (Please Help)
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:28:43 GMT
Organization: large

Brian.E.Hannon@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon) writes:
>jbn@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
>> I thought that nine states still had 55:  Alaska and Delaware (with
>> no eligible roads)

The max limit in Alaska is 60, not 55.  Or has this changed?  (Again...)

>Hawaii and Alaska don't count since they don't have any eligible
>interstates.  But you forgot Massachusetts.  Funny how they're all in
>the northeast, huh?

Two pieces of the Mass Pike are up to 65.  (And none of this half-assed
"65 only for vehicles of type N".)  It's a start...

andrew
From: skrauss@cs.ulowell.edu (Susanne Krauss)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Left on red
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:38:55 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science

In article <aLiXRB2w164w@cellar.org> blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
>00124961@ysub.ysu.edu writes:
>
>> In article <Bv55Eq.Byz@world.std.com>
>> tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt) writes:
>>  
>> >
>> >sns@bondi.jpl.nasa.gov (Sam Southard) writes:
>> >>rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis) writes:
>> >>>matt@cs.city.ac.uk (Matthew G Sillitoe (Matt)) writes:
>> >>>>ObQ. Are there *any* roundabouts in the US?
>> >>>
	If a roundabout is a rotory, Massachusetts is loaded with them.
	At least every town has one. I've heard that MA is
	famous (infamous maybe?) for them. Lots of visitors
	can get caught in one and have trouble getting out because
	the drivers here are viscious (sp?). I know, I'm trying not
	to be, the stress facor is increasing daily. I commute 60 mi
	one way and it is difficult to stay reasonably close to the
	speed limit (I drive 65 in a 55 zone) when most of the
	traffic is going 75-80 MPH. If you ever visit MA, good luck
	driving in the rotories, we're infamous for our signs (or
	lack there of)

		Susanne
From: dgalb@carina.unm.edu (David Galbraith CIRT)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:53:19 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <ILH.92Sep24183027@winnie-the-pooh.lcs.mit.edu> ilh@lcs.mit.edu writes:
>In article <Bv3HpK.F80@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>   ...The self-centered driver who merges at the last second saves
>   time for himself at the expense of everyone behind him.
>
>He doesn't NECESSARILY have to cost everyone else.  Some people leave
>too much space (say, over four seconds*) such that someone could safely
>slide in without having to slow anyone down.  The trouble is, that
>space hog will probably open up the same four seconds again.  Since
>throughput is cars per second, THE REAL CULPRIT IS THE PERSON OPENING
>TOO LARGE A SPACE.  The instantaneous throughput is half what it could
>be because of that space.  THIS person is self-centered in thinking `I
>want to have a full four seconds in front of me' and probably doesn't
>realize that they have any impact on total throughput.  That space is
>wasted space so it seems perfectly reasonable for someone to use it.
>
>I do agree that if someone FORCES themselves into a two-second gap
>that WILL slow others down.  Unfortunately, this happens, too.
>
>* I'm assuming here that two seconds is safe enough for the
>  conditions. I think this argument is valid any time someone opens up
>  a space that is twice what is actually necessary.  There ARE such
>  people.
>--
>
>                                Lee Hetherington
>                                ilh@lcs.mit.edu

I tend to leave a large following distance in stop and go traffic.  Why? 
I find its easier to adjust my speed with out shifting, hitting the brake,
what have you.  Its more comfortable to be moving rather than speeding up
hitting your brake to stop, the guy in front moves, you speed up hit your
brake to stop.. and so on... I give myself a little room so that the guy in
front stops, I slow down, he starts up again, I pick up my speed a bit... 

Maybe I'm selfish, but I don't think so.  I can't see how this affects other
people and makes traffic slower.  it just makes my life easier... course if
somebody proves to me I'm wrong I will change... seems to me to be a major
waste of gas and brake pads though.

oh well.

-d.
dgalb@bootes.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Alastair M. Bor)
Subject: lights off to pass in dark
Reply-To: st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:27:00 GMT

The reason one should not shut their lights off to pass is that it
is illegal to drive in the dark w/o lights and if the car in front of
you is a cop.... <need I say more>

I know someone who got caught this way (he was signalling something by
turning his lights off then on and got busted)...

-Alastair Bor
st901745@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving