From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Pleasure Point
Date: 6 Oct 1992 22:23:07 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
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In article <1asv7oINNm3i@overload.lbl.gov>, njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov writes:
> In article <1992Oct1.004921.8356@berlioz.nsc.com> () writes:
> >Hi,
> >    I'm a longboarder (9.0 Stewart) surfing at Pleasure Point (2nd Peak).
> >How do I get a clean takeoff now that the shortboarders have started coming
> >over from 1st Peak and Sewers. It takes me about 15 to 20 ft of paddling to
> >get up to speed and they just drop right in.
> >                                             Oliver 
> 
> I just bought a 9'6" Stewart (Hydro Hull)...What a sticky board!!!
> I can't fall off it and it doesn't seem to take any paddling at all
> to catch a wave. Just point and go. I bought it specially to surf
> Pleasure Point and can't wait till Saturday.
> I'm 5'7" and 130 lbs. Maybe you need to try a little longer board if you
> have to paddle so far.
> I was going to get a 7 or 8 foot board, but then I talked to the guys
> at Santa Cruz'n, a longboards only shop, and they said 9' was really the
> minimum for a longboard. I have to fight to get the thing out, but I 
> prefer hard-out/easy-in to easy-out/hard-in.  
> 
> In any case, when they drop in on you, maintain your position. You have
> the right of way and eventually they will get the message: its like
> a motorcycle cutting in front of an 18-wheeler. 
> 
> See you in the line-up
> 
> Nancy Jean Travis
> =B-)   All wet...
> 

   The forecast is: flat through the weekend. perfect for longboards.
   So have fun Nancy!

   I think the original poster mis-used the term 'drop in'.
   I figured he meant that during the recent swell, people (who could
   be on any size board) were on a wave caught at sewer's or first peak, 
   and riding it through second peak which would make *him* the
   one dropping in.

   After all, if shortboarders were starting at the same point as him, 
   he has the wave catching advantage.

   In general, shortboards can't drop in on a longboard since a 
   longboard can take the wave so early.

   The converse, however, is not the case as a shortboard can achieve a later
   take-off and a longboard can hop most any shoulder. 
   I have many stories of longboarder's dropping in on me. 

   I haven't told them recently on alt.surfing because I'm tired of the 
   shortboard vs. longboard thing, 
   (it's stereotypeing after all, and there are *lots* of 
   good, considerate, safe, and cool longboarders) 
   but you kind of pushed it here.
   The original poster is clearly lame, so don't dignify his posting
   by saying stupid shit like: "you're an 18 wheeler and he's a 
   motorcycle". sheesh. I'll show you a motorcycle.

   Recently, a longboarder
   dropped in on a steep wave and totally lost it directly in
   front of me. There was no where for me to go, so I just bailed back
   into the barrel and I avoided injury somehow, but got a $40 fist-sized ding 
   in my rail.  My brother wanted to beat it out of the guy, 
   but I restrained him mostly because 1) his board had a six inch chunk 
   out of the nose, 2) he apologized, and 3) everyone else, 
   including longboarders, was giving him shit for it. No kidding.

   More recently, the guy who shapes long boards for Pierce Arrow
   (who is *good* and should know better) dropped in on me on a
   solid overhead wave.
   I just went around him on the bottom and then stalled and didn't 
   say anything. He kicked out and didn't say anything, 
   but didn't do it again either. 

   Friends don't let friends ride longboards when it's pumping.
   (Especially if they can only get a wave by shoulder hopping).

   Flame Away.