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From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Upcoming Disney features
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:02:47 GMT
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <C19EtD.JwD@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
> In article <8872@news.duke.edu> anguilla@acpub.duke.edu (Hunganh Nguyen) writes:
>>
>>	In case anyone doesn't know, Disney routinely produces R rated films
>>under the Touchstone label.  This includes films like Billy Bathgate, Down
>>and Out in Beverly Hills, Good Morning Vietnam, etc.
>>	-Eddie
> 
> I noticed a disclaimer at the end of Sister Act (a Touchstone film) that the
> film was produced by Walt Disney Pictures for matters of copyright in Great
> Britain.  Does Touchstone not exist in GB?  If not, then Disney would be
> releasing PG and higher films there...
> 
> -- 
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Good question.  I'm not sure off the top of my head.  But I do know for
a fact that Buena Vista Pictures does exist in GB!


John Heiden
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John Heiden

                                       Dept. of Computer Services

CSCON134@Uoft02.UTOLEDO.EDU            The University of Toledo
CSCON134@Uoft02.BITNET                 Toledo, Ohio     U.S.A.
From: tpp@cbnews.cb.att.com (thomas.p.pschar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Review
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:55:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1jus56INN2ok@mozz.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>>>  Pot.  Kettle.  Black.
>>>
>>> - snopes
>>>
>>> ObligatoryDisneyFact:  Disney has produced three of the most frequently
>>> misspelled movie titles in film history: "Pinnochio", "Alladin", and
>>>                                                       ^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Should we be ordering a set of black pots and kettles for you TOO, snopes??
>>
>>Couldn't resist.
>
>Ha.  Spelling wars.  Fun.  No, Denise, I think you're the one to lose this
>time.  Snopes was deliberately misspelling the movies to show *how* they
>get misspelled.  What you *didn't* notice, was that the other two movies
>(Pinnocchio and 101 Dalmatians) were also intentionally misspelled
>(Pinnochio and 101 Dalmations).
>
>So one can conclude that it is actually YOU who don't know how to spell????

...DOESN'T know how to spell.

Now it's the spelling and grammar wars.

Obligatory Disney stuff:

Does anyone have any of the Bambi suites, by Ollie Johnston and Frank Thomas?
Are they breathtakingly beautiful, or what?  I have suite 4...

Tom


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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: 8mm Tapes
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:30:58 GMT

In article <849.561.uupcb@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us> brian.colter@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Brian Colter)  writes:
>In message <shorts.727577328@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> from RAFI LEVAVY
>shorts@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu which was dated 01-25-93 and left in the
>rec.arts.disney NewsGroup, a comment was made concerning the subject
>of Re: 8mm Tapes which was so notable that I decided to reply to it now!
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>RL>There are (or at least there were) adapters so you can play 8mm tapes
>RL>in a VHS player - this assures that the quality won't be that of a
>RL>copy.  It also won't present any potential legal problems, since
>RL>you're watching the original.
>
>There is NO WAY you could ever play an 8mm tape on a VHS player (or
>vice-versa).  You can transfer 8mm to VHS (and back again) as all NTSC
>Video Recorders produce a compatible signal.

I think I need to disagree here.  When I was in FLA, a friend had
videotaped his trip down on 8mm, so when we went to watch it, he stuck
the smaller tape into a larger case which stretched the tape into VHS
size.  I am almost certain it was 8mm, unless they make smaller VHS
tapes on some cameras (it was a Panasonic).  I have a SONY 8mm
handicam now but I have never had occasion to transfer anything to
VHS.  I also do not have the adapter I wrote about.  Hmm..this may
take some research.

>
>But the physical format of the recording process is different for each
>format.
>
>... Brian ...                            brian.colter@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid: Whale of a tail
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:23:46 GMT

In article <1k20r7INN9ki@ub.d.umn.edu>, jrowliso@ub.d.umn.edu (Jon) writes:
> I have been faithfully recording LTM the series on hi-fi every week.
> Recently while looking at the episode list I have noticed that there was an
> original (pilot?) episode called 'Whale of a Tail".  Is there some reason
> this episode name in the list is not in ALL CAPS like the others?  I thought
   That is how it appears at the start of the episode (note that there
are no quotes either - I do like to be accurate :-) ). It is written in a
fancy font, as opposed to the 13 other episodes. It also did not have the
opening sequence which is used for the other episodes. For some reason,
they skipped this one when they started the repeats (see my episode guide
for the broadcast dates).


> I had all of the episodes, but the first one broadcast here in my city was
> "The Great Sebasian".
   'Whale of a Tale' was broadcast the Friday before, in prime-time.


> Would anyone with this episode (Whale of a Tail) on hi-fi [or mono if nobody
> has it in hi-fi] be cool enough to send it to me?  Of course I'll pay
> postage, cost of the blank tape, and a couple bucks for your trouble.
   If no one else has it, I may be able to help (I have it (as the whole
series) in Stereo Hi-Fi on brand new TDK-EHG tapes in SP mode (I'm not
messing around after learning my lesson with Saban's TLM series :-( )).
My VCRs are currently booked (ask Squid :-) ). I (& I presume Squid too)
am (are) looking for episodes of "Saban's Adventures of The Little Mermaid"
(the last few that we both don't have/very good copies of some others).


> 			- just tryin' to build an archive...
   Same here. :-)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: Paige O'Hara
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:40:30 GMT

RSL103@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> Anybody know what Paige O'Hara, the voice of Belle in "Beauty and the Beast"
> is up to these days.  I'd think she must be swamped with work offers by now.

I'm not so sure about that.  In the spring of last year, O'Hara was doing a
small show in L.A. (not a musical) which had a brief run although I hear
that she was great.  I saw her perform at the Hollywood Bowl last July with
Richard White, Lea Salonga, and Peabo Bryson (they were doing songs primarily
from "The King and I").  I certainly wouldn't worry about her income though.
Her husband has been playing Raoul in "Phantom" in L.A. for quite some time.

--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleen S. Davis)
Subject: Re: Disney Women:Face & Figure
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:05:56 GMT

In article <1j7bvuINNrc6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu
   (Virgilio Velasco) writes: 
>
>I wish all three of them were alive.  I also wish that Prince Eric, Aladdin
>and the Beast would meet some untimely demise.  :)

I'll make you a deal.  I'll woo the Beast and you can all fight over
Belle.  I want the Beast while he was still a Beast, of course. . .
Maybe I should be posting this to alt.fan.furry?  ;)

-sz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.animation,alt.fan.disney.afternoon
From: jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Song of The South and Gone With the Wind
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:45:30 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

In article <1k4hdoINNghq@shelley.u.washington.edu> mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.215151.23231@leland.Stanford.EDU> inkblot@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas Calvin Cannon) writes:

>>Just out of curiousity, why isn't Disney re-releasing SotS?  And (of course)
>>why, why, why not the Black Cauldron??
>>
>I have heard it is because the movie portrays Uncle Remus, and other black
>characters, in a way that would be deemed "offensive" by today's standards.
>

You know, I don't remember the Uncle Remus part of Song of the South (as I was
only five when I saw it, that was 20 years ago) and the only part that scared
me stiff was when poor Brer Rabbit got all covered in that tar. (That scene 
was very traumatic for a 5 year old, who imagined what it would be like to
be buried in tar.) Anyway, I just watched Gone With The Wind on TBS this
past weekend, and I must say that the treatment of African Americans in that
movie could be very "offensive" by today's standards. The South considered
slaves as property. Prissy is at best ignorant (let alone annoying). Mamie
while somewhat more respectable than Rhett and Scarlet is still uneducated
and a little nosy. Still, the 'darkies' had their place.
But as long as everyone realizes that this is fiction, based loosely on facts
of the time period, then this movie will continue to be replayed over and
over, because it is good. If the big complaint with Song of the South is that
a black slave was content with his surroundings, then lets look at Roots.
Roots is a very strong portrayal of the slavery incident. But I believe there
were characters in the series that accepted being slaves. This too is
historical fiction (more or less).  My point is one movie will not corrupt
America. 
It's kind of like Huckleberry Finn being baned because Jim is called the
n-word. Jim is a strong correct black character. Reading one book is not
going to change everyone's opinions. Even if Uncle Remus is a weak, morally
incorrect black character, watching one movie is not going to change
everyone's opinion. 

Well, I've gotten that off my chest. Now let's get back to something fun.
What stories would you like to see Disney make as animated features? I think
James and the Giant Peach could be a contender.



"Oh, Isn't this amazing?
It's my favorite part 			   Jad R. J. Jordan
Because, you see,			  MOSCOM Corporation.
Here's where she meets			    jrjj@moscom.com
Prince Charming!				()_()
But she won't discover that it's him		 (_)
'Til Chapter Three."
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin (Inside Joke!)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:39:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Actually, regarding Aladdin's mother in the original story, she's the
one who actually does all the work for Al to get the princess.  She's
the one who goes to the Sultan to ask the princess' hand for her son,
and she plays messenger for Al all the time.  Aladdin himself just keeps
wishing for piles of riches to send the Sultan, hoping to impress him.

Actually, another interesting note, and maybe the source of a sequel film
(although I'm not sure that's a good idea) is that the story of Aladdin
continues after he gets the lamp back from the evil magician (who, as was
previously stated, is from Africa).  It turns out that this magician had
a brother who, when finding out that Aladdin was responsible for his 
brother's death (he died in the recovery of the lamp) tricked the princess
into asking Aladdin to wish for a roc's egg.  When Al told the genie he
wanted a roc's egg, the genie told him he was asking for the genie's 
ultimate master, or something to that effect, and that by wishing that,
he should lose everything, his and the princess' lives included.  However,
since the Genie knew that Al only asked because of the magician's brother,
he let him live and keep all his wealth.  Al then killed the brother.  I
never heard that part of the story before, but I just bought a collection
of "Arabian Nights" and that's how "Aladdin" goes in that book.  
Linda
-- 
"This is my quest, to follow that star, no matter how hopeless, no matter how
far!"------The Impossible Dream, "Man of La Mancha"
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: New Disney Fans!!!!!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:01:02 GMT

Oops!  Any replies should be sent to Paul.Mason@analog.com... but if
any come my way I will forward them.


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Splash Mountain!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:33:05 GMT

What I find extraordinary is that Disney will not release the movie
but they have designed 2 multimillion dollar rides based on Song of
the South...Kids won't even know who these characters are in a few
years.  The ride can hold it's own a little bit, meaning that it's
entertaining even if you haven't seen the movie, but it seems like
sort of a double standard to build the ride, which calls so much
attention to the movie, and then not release it on video.  Any
opinions?  (Like I had to ask.) =-)


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Where can I find Disneys catalog?
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:17:09 GMT
Organization: Hog's Breath is Better than No Breath at All.

In article <1993Jan23.121648.2630@merrimack.edu> desmondw@merrimack.edu writes:
>
>     Can somebody please post a phone number I can call to get a
>subscription to the Disney catalog? 

The number is 1-800-237-5751

Ah the fringe benifits of working the stores - but not for long!!!!!


Scott

-- 
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216 Valley Green
Mauldin, SC  29662
Internet:    gt1293c@cad.gatech.edu
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: BatB:  How much did it cost to make?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:30:11 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Does anyone know how much it cost to make the Beauty and the Beast
movie?  What about Aladdin?  Which animated movie (not necessarily
one of these) was the most expensive to make, ever?  Thanks

keith
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: How about ANIMATED Disney Movies
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:38:13 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <1993Jan27.024753.5495@leland.Stanford.EDU> inkblot@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas Calvin Cannon) writes:
>1st positive (not-stereotypical) representation of an
>African American by in a Disney animated feature: the Egyptian fellow carving 
>the Sphinx in the 'A Whole New World' segment of _Aladdin_.  PLEASE PROVE
>THIS WRONG, cause it'd be pretty depressing if I was right.

What about Sebastian the crab?  I always took him to be black.  It still annoys
me, though, that all the mermaids were white (almost as much as those bikini
tops).

And one is free to assume that Mickey Mouse and Goofy are black (look at their
arms and legs!)

There were also the black centaurs in FANTASIA.  According to this newsgroup,
however, the original version included an insulting black caricature.

I'd be interested in hearing more about your opinions on the crows from
DUMBO.  I would have put them in the same category as Uncle Remus.  It seemed
to me that they were depicted as being uneducated, but of good character.
-- 
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          phone: (410)267-3192 / fax: (410)267-4883
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From: DPM%MRGPRE%Health_Net@mcimail.com (DPM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney to explore story of Stanley and Livingston
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:22:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The Hollywood Reporter
January 19, 1993


               Disney to explore story of Stanley and Livingston

The story of Stanley and Livingston, once done by 20th Century Fox with Spencer 
Tracy and Sir Cedric Hardwicke playing the two real-life gents who trekked into 
Darkest Africa in the Victorian era, will be redone with all the resources of 
1993 filmmaking, by Disney.  The producer will be Nick Krantz, son of Judith 
and Steve.  It was about the first "Stanley and Livingston" film version that 
Graham Greene once wrote, "Most of the film consists of long shots of stand-ins 
moving across undistinguished scenery."  But the public lapped it up in 1939 
and Disney's hoping there's still some lap left in the S&L story.


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From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney collectibles book
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:18:39 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

This must be in the FAQ, but it's expired at every site I've checked.
Would the FAQ poster consider setting the Expires: line?  Thanks.

Anyway, there has got to be a comprehensive price guide to Disney
collectibles out there somewhere.  Anyone know what this is called?

Thanks,
Charleen
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Studios Tour?
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:11:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1k4gesINNeq7
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <C1Fr9E.5GA@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>Denise "ABU" Lockner (mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu) wrote:
>> The Disney Studios are closed to anyone who doesn't have a Disney I.D..
>> I'm not sure why, as I know many people would love to see the inside
>> (not to mention that beautiful "7 Dwarfs" structure on the reflection
>> pool by Michael Graves).  However, my guess is that Disney wants to keep
>> its TV and movie lots, etc., and its animation department secretive.
>> 
>> -Denise (WHO HAS A DISNEY I.D.!!  SEEN IT! DONE IT!!)
>> ...and who might be persuaded to share her exploits at the Studio...
>
>Oooooooh!  And aren't we all SO excited... Come on!  I've been to the studio.
>Big deal. ;)  Ya seen one studio, ya seen 'em all (well, they don't all
>have tall buildings with dwarfs as pillars, but what can ya do).  Several


Yes....but did Angela Lansbury almost run you over with her Thunderbird?
I think not....so there, babycakes.

-Denise  (who thinks Alan might be mad at her)
*********
"If you can't say something nice...don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER
From: dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donald A Shaffer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: are mermaids fish... the long awaited ANSWER!!!!!
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:08:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: andromed.Jan.26.16.08.22.1993.8149
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Actually, the presence of scales doenst prove that much, take a look at a 
certain mammal called the pangolin(I hope I spelt it right :)  
	Anyone want to argue about whether the bird like characters in the 
afternoon cartoons are really birds or not? :)
From: desmondw@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: The Little Mermaid on Laserdisc!!!!!!
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:12:23 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

Hi gang,
    I posted this once before under a long heading that didn't fit
in the directory so I'm posting this again cause I know its gonna
make many people go crazy.
    If you missed The Little Mermaid or Cinderella on laserdisc, now
is your chance to buy. Very soon some laserdisc places will be 
receiving Japanese imports of these 2 great movies virtually identical
to the ones released in the US and discontinued. The movies will be
in CLV format and have 2 audio tracks so you can listen to the movie
all in english or all in japanese. The jackets to the disc I assume will
be like the US versions, only with Japanese writing for the title. They
will be like the copy of Lady and the tramp that everyone used to talk
about here.
     The cost is approximately $70 each, which isn't bad considering you
can't buy these in the Us anymore. They WILL work on american laserdisc
players. From a source at Sight and Sound in Waltham,MA these discs
will be limited since they're imports and will be sold out in a heart
beat...So if you're interested contact them since they are taking orders
now! Here's the address:
                         Sight and Sound
                         27 Jones Road
                         Waltham,Ma 02154     ph #:894-8633 (617)
                                                (I got this ph # from
                                                 an old yellow pages so
                                                  it might have changed)
    Good Luck all, I placed my order yesterday !  :)

Newsgroups: iu.general,rec.arts.disney
From: ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleen S. Davis)
Subject: Re: Best Bookstore in B-town?
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: iu
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:17:56 GMT

Morgenstern's (in the same plaza with Chi-Chi's and Long John's) is a
pretty nice place.  They've got atmosphere AND great selection.  Their
employees are quite helpful and they'll order anything for you if they
don't already have it.  Try the coffee.

-sz