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From: meggin@epas.utoronto.ca (David Megginson)
Subject: Re: auto-fill-mode in GNU emacs
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:57:05
Originator: meggin@epas.utoronto.ca
	<1992Apr13.195717.15065@cs.yale.edu>

In article <1992Apr13.195717.15065@cs.yale.edu> gardner-justin@CS.YALE.EDU (justin gardner) writes:

   I was wondering if (and it seems that there isn't a good way of doing
   this) it is possible to have some new mode defined for emacs that will
   automatically re-fill text when you insert changes into previously
   filled text. If anyone knows of such a program please let me know.
   Also, I got a lot of requests from people who wanted to know the same
   thing, so I'll post any reply I get to this news group.

Hmmm ... you could remap all of the printing keys to a new function,
self-insert-and-fill, which would call self-insert-command first, and
then fill-paragraph -- the paragraph would fill on each keystroke, but
you'll want an awfully fast CPU to get any kind of keyboard response
time, especially with long paragraphs. Perhaps the function could
check whether you are already at the end of the line before calling
fill-paragraph? Any way, here's your chance to learn the joys of ELISP
(just use ^H-f <function name> RET to learn about the functions, or
get the elisp info files from prep.ai.mit.edu).


David


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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: esh@curly.tekbspa.com (Edwad S. Hirgelt)
Subject: Re: why is emacs statically linked?
Organization: Direct Interfaces Corporation @ Teknekron
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:54:48 GMT


Brian> Brian
In article <c25t#sh@rpi.edu> fitzgb@mml0.meche.rpi.edu (Brian
Fitzgerald) writes: 

Brian> What I mean is why is emacs _designed_ to be statically linked, (if it
Brian> is).

Brian> In s-sunos4.h we have

Brian> #define LD_SWITCH_SYSTEM -e __start -Bstatic

Brian> which becomes an ld option in the xmakefile.  There is also supplied a
Brian> replacement for crt0.c which appears not to call ld.so.

Here's what I understand about this. I'm surprised someone else hasn't
jumped in yet.

One of the steps in building emacs is to load the basic set of
operations written in lisp into what is essentially an empty emacs. Each
site can load what it feels are the most commonly used features. Then,
when emacs is started everything is there waiting for you.

This is accomplished with a little feature called unexec(). It takes a
running executable and saves it on disk in a form that the kernel thinks
is just another executable (because it is). However, this is a very
system dependent operation. Dynamically linked libraries confuse the
issue.

I suspect that it is possible to make unexec work with dynamically
linked libraries, but it would be tricky and even more system dependent
than it now is. It is simply easier to leave things as they are.

Hope this helps. I also hope that if this isn't the correct answer some
polite expert enlightens us all.

Enjoy,
Ed
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From: michaelc@vicstoy.UUCP (Michael Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Need emacs (exes) for MPE on HP3000
Keywords: gnu emacs mpe hp 3000
Date: 5 Apr 92 05:29:17 GMT
Organization: vicstoy: Public Access Unix, Orlando, FL

I would be willing to pay a finders fee to the first person who can 
point me in the right direction to acquiring emacs (any recent version)
for the MPE OS running on an HP 3000 mini.  Reply here or to
michaelc(at)obmarket.  Thanks in advance!
From: ky04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUN YU)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: TeX-mode problem?
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:24:30 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

The commands in TeX/LaTeX mode ( TeX region c-c c-r, View region c-c c-v)
look very fascinating, but they don't work properly for me.
I use Feemacs on my PC, 'c-c c-r' opens up a "filename.log" window,
which is empty. I have to c-x c-c to run the $-tex-$.tex file which is
preamble+region to generate a $-tex-$.dvi file. 'c-c c-v' works. I thought
'c-c c-r' generated a .dvi file.
On Vax or SUN, I either got error messages or got stuck in TeX-shell,
which was invoked by 'c-c c-r'.
Anybody can share experience with me?
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From: carlson@support.newport.sgi.com (Christopher W. Carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Where is Demacs?
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:54:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.1992Apr7.225418.8347
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

It is interesting that I have seen a number of postings to this newsgroup
concerning Demacs.  Two, in particular requested information on where to
get a copy of it.  I have seen no followup to these postings.  I've also
wandered all through the internet (it would take days to look everywhere)
and can't find it.

If someone knows where I can get the latest Demacs, I would appreciate it.

Thx.

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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: moconnor@pms704.pms.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Backspace Key
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: "Fordz"
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:19:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.220136.10412@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> djn20624@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Danielson) writes:
:	Is there some way to get the backspace key to actually be a backspace
:key is emacs???  I usually work on an IBM type keyboard and the backspace

:	I heard that you need something like a 3 line script in your .emacs
:file.  Does anyone know what those lines are to make the backspace key work??

Three lines?

(global-set-key "\C-h" 'backward-delete-char)

will do the job for you in .emacs.

						...Mike
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From: jim@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Jim Rump)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: .emacs or other
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:10:29 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.

Hi,

I was wondering how to use an other rc-file than the .emacs.
Can I give this as an option when starting EMACS?

Thanks,


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 20:13:32 EDT
From: H. Choe <HXC6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Novice questions: Demacs

(1) Arrow keys do not work, instead they generate characters.  My system is
    Gateway 386 with DR DOS 6.0.  Is ANSI.SYS a problem?
(2) I could not get out of Demacs.  When I typed "C-x C-c", it answered as
    "Symbol's function definition is void: ibmpc-cancel-special-key".  Is
    this problem related to Question (1)?
(3) Is there a way to use "colors"?

Thanks.
H. Choe
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Getting EMACS to display high-order chars!? HELP!?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:40:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.163130.8970@cs.dal.ca> gauthier@ug.cs.dal.ca (Paul Gauthier) writes:
>I just installed Emacs on my SCO UNIX 3.2.2 system and tried to display a
>file containing characters with codes above 127 (like line drawings using the
>IBM extended character set). I can 'cat' this file to my screen with proper
>results (ie, I can see the graphics characters), but Emacs replaces them with
>backslash followed by their octal code. Is there a way to make it NOT do this,
>and actually display them right? How do I make this the default invokation mod
>for Emacs?
>

The only way to do this is to modify the C code and recompile emacs.
You only need a few changes.  There are several diff files around, and
I have one I did myself about a year and a half ago, if you want it.

-Joel
From: gauthier@ug.cs.dal.ca (Paul Gauthier)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Getting EMACS to display high-order chars!? HELP!?
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:31:30 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

I just installed Emacs on my SCO UNIX 3.2.2 system and tried to display a
file containing characters with codes above 127 (like line drawings using the
IBM extended character set). I can 'cat' this file to my screen with proper
results (ie, I can see the graphics characters), but Emacs replaces them with
backslash followed by their octal code. Is there a way to make it NOT do this,
and actually display them right? How do I make this the default invokation mode
for Emacs?

Please, please, please help me! This is a rather important question...

Thanks,
	PG
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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: mwette@csi.jpl.nasa.gov (Matt Wette)
Subject: mail/alias problems with NIS+GNU 18.57
Originator: mwette@mr-ed
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:12:16 GMT


 os  : SunOS 4.1.1
 arch: sun4
 emax: GNU 18.57

I have a problem with mail in emacs.  I always get error messages from
"Mailer Daemon" when I use system aliases (local or NIS aliases) in
the "To:" field.  However, the mail seems to go through anyway.

Anybody got a fix?

Matt
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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: lux@sol.UVic.CA (Michael O'Henly)
Subject: Need help with byte-compile-file command
Keywords: byte-compile
Organization: University of Victoria
Date:  7 Apr 92 01:52:34 GMT

	I'm a new emacs user and I'm having such a fundemental problem
with compiling elisp routines that I'm sure the solution will be quite
obvious to someone with more experience.

	When I give the "M-x byte-compile-file" command, I just get a
Cannot open load file: bytecomp" error message. 

	What's the scoop? Emacs can't find my elisp file? Not enough
memory? Path set incorrectly?

	I've put "setenv  EMACSLOADPATH .:~/lux/emacs/lisp" in my
.cshrc file. My .el files are in that directory. 

	Any help (obviously!) would make a difference...

	Michael.
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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: geo@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Subject: Demacs and EMM386.EXE. Incompatible?
Reply-To: geo@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Organization: Computer Center, CUNY Graduate School, New York NY 10036
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:08:45 GMT


 Hi to all!

I cannot make demacs to run with emm386.exe.
My 486sx gives the message
   "CPU must be in REAL (not V86) mode so this program to run"
Do you know what this exactly means?
I had configured emm386 with noems
ie without expanded memory so to loadhigh
devices and system.
I finally managed to make it run using only XMS but 
the memory fall down to 544K.
Do you know if DEMACS run with emm386 and if yes what 
am I doin wrong? (the manual says explicitly that it 
is emm386 compatible...)

Thanks in advance.
I will summarize if there is much interest.

K.

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Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: fitzgb@mml0.meche.rpi.edu (Brian Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: why is emacs statically linked?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:54:56 GMT

Nand Mulchandani writes:
>It would seem that your Makefile has a -Bstatic on the command line when emacs
>is linked. The default linking mode is -Bdynamic (dynamic linking), and the
>-Bstatic overrides this.
>
>Hope this helps.


What I mean is why is emacs _designed_ to be statically linked, (if it
is).

In s-sunos4.h we have

#define LD_SWITCH_SYSTEM -e __start -Bstatic

which becomes an ld option in the xmakefile.  There is also supplied a
replacement for crt0.c which appears not to call ld.so.

I have heard of such things as "garbage collection" and so on, and I
was just wondering whether the reason emacs is supposed to be
statically linked, at least on suns, is because somehow dynamic linking
would interfere with some special memory management that takes place in
emacs, or is the explanation something altogether unrelated?  Anyway, I
was just wondering, and I'm sure that someone out there familiar with
the design of emacs can readily answer my question.

Brian
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From: nhi@deveel.aero.org (Nhi Casey)
Subject: C-x u and undo command
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:17:45 GMT


I'm a new Emacs user, and am confused about the differences in
the behavior of C-x u and the undo command.  With repeated C-x u,
I can undo my mistakes by working backward.  The undo command
on the other hand, seems to only undo the last command.  Is this
a bug?  or is this how it's supposed to behave?  How do I get
the behavior of C-x u by using commands only?

Thanks in advance.

Nhi Casey
nhi@ariel.aero.org
From: chuan@milton.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Novice questions: Demacs
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:52:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <92106.201332HXC6@psuvm.psu.edu> HXC6@psuvm.psu.edu (H. Choe) writes:
>(1) Arrow keys do not work, instead they generate characters.  My system is
>    Gateway 386 with DR DOS 6.0.  Is ANSI.SYS a problem?
>(2) I could not get out of Demacs.  When I typed "C-x C-c", it answered as
>    "Symbol's function definition is void: ibmpc-cancel-special-key".  Is
>    this problem related to Question (1)?
>(3) Is there a way to use "colors"?
>
>Thanks.
>H. Choe

Problems (1) and (2) could probably fixed by modifying file _emacs by
uncommenting the line: (setq dos-machine-type 'ibmpc)

Chuan Lee
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: ljuno@dnbf01.bram.cdx.mot.com (Lance Juno)
Subject: emacs FAQ ?
Reply-To: ljuno@dnbf01.bram.cdx.mot.com (Lance Juno)
Organization: Motorola Codex, Mississauga, Ontario
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:14:25 GMT


is there an FAQ for this group ?  if so, can someone mail it directly please ?

thanks in advance,

lance

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From: ressler@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Mike "IR" Ressler)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Emacs for OS/2 2.0
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:21:07 GMT
Organization: UH IfA and NASA Infrared Telescope Facility

In article <1992Apr7.043125.9800@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>I believe 32-bit full blown emacs for OS/2 2.0 is in alpha.  I also
>believe Demacs is DPMI-compliant and, thus, will run just fine under
>OS/2 2.0.
>
>Your bases are covered.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong on Demacs.)

Sorry, Tim - you slipped here. Demacs was compiled with DJGPP, a port of
gcc/g++ which will work on 386's and above. As of version 1.05, it is VCPI
compliant (thus Demacs is as well), but not DPMI compliant. This means you
can run it under DOS memory managers like EMM/QEMM/386MAX, but not under
Windows (DPMI 0.9 - which is REALLY brain-dead) or OS/2, which I believe 
requires DPMI 1.0. DJGPP 1.06 is due out soon, and I put DPMI 1.0 on my wish
list for it, but I don't think it will have it. Thus I really hope someone
is working on an independent 32-bit OS/2 GNU emacs.

Mike

Still waiting for my OS/2 2.0 upgrade form ...  Come on IBM!



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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 11:12:22 EDT
From: H. Choe <HXC6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Novice questions: thanks!

It was first time in my life to post in the netnews, though I have subscribed
for a long time.  I was surprised by fast and secere responses by may people.
I really appreciate your help.  In fact, as many of you suggest, I made a
mistake in organizing directories -- I mixed up instuctions provided by
the original authors and some instructions obtained from this news group.
Now, it works fine.   One thing interesting happens.  I used back slashes
rather than "/", but experienced no problem yet.  I do not know why...

Now, Demacs is one of my three jewels --- Demacs, Kermit and SbTeX.
Thank you again.
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: vargish@sura.net (Nicholas Vargish)
Subject: Re: Where is Demacs?
Summary: Look here!
Keywords: ftp
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:38:27 GMT

You can find the demacs package at:

	wuarchive.wustl.edu:mirrors/msdos/demacs
		(or maybe   pub/mirrors/msdos/demacs)

The executables are in dem120e.lzh (if I remember correctly), as are
all the other files needed to run demacs. The documentation is a
little sparse when it comes to installation (and often misleading to
boot), so if you have any problems, send me e-mail and I'll help you
out.

Cheers,

Nick

p.s. Some clues (perhaps for the FAQ?): 
	o Demacs needs ansi.sys (nansi.sys works fine on my system).
	o Use '/' instead of '\' for path-names.
	o I could never get the archives to unpack into the correct
		directories, which means you'll have to watch for
		error messages relating to inability to find files or
		directories.
	o Edit _emacs carefully, and trust the comments in it.
Hope this is what you wanted!
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From: Kimmo.Suominen@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: what exactly is HAVE_XMENU?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:59:57 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
Disclaimer: These are my opinions unless otherwise stated

>>>>> "Ketil" == Ketil Malde <s082@brems.ii.uib.no> writes:

Ketil> Well, what is HAVE_XMENU?  What is it supposed to do?

Try pressing CTRL+SHIFT+LEFT MOUSE BUTTON for one thing.  You can also
define your own menus, if the thing works with your system.
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From: mcroberts@titan.ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: SCCS support under Ultrix
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:28:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: titan.1992Apr16.132838.2517

I've been working with a set of emacs commands for
checking files into and out of SCCS.  These commands
seem to work fine on the Sun but the Decstation
implementation of SCCS is different and it requires
that the comment field on a delta be terminated by an
eof (^D).  It also allows multi-line comments.  This
causes the delta command to be left waiting for the
eof.  Has someone out there found a solution to this?
				-Thanks
From: levi@iesd.auc.dk (Levi Christiansen)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: lpr.el for Demacs and ms-dos
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:32:01 GMT
Distribution: comp.emacs
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University

Hi Demacs users

Is there anybody out there having a lpr.el for Demacs running under
MS-DOS.

If you have, then please email me.

Yours Levi
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
From: mle@owlnet.rice.edu (Mark Louis Engelberg)
Subject: Demacs
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:14:41 GMT

Can Demacs run on a 286 machine?

If not, what are my other options.
I have an old version of MicroEmacs right now, and I find it fairly
limiting.  Programmability is not pivotal to me, but I would like a
wordprocessor that knows different modes, has key binding ability,
undo, and is not limited to small files.

--Mark Engelberg
From: gdcarson@icaen.uiowa.edu (Gregory Donald Carson)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: emacs book wanted
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:54:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Originator: gdcarson@temp2

Hello emacs folks;

	I am new to emacs and the online tutorial has only so much information
could someone suggest a good book on learning emacs for a beginner that would
make a nice to have reference after I learn it?

Greg
From: jimbo@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com (Jim Winters)
Newsgroups: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Backspace Key
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:37:55 GMT
	<1992Apr12.231906.29069@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
	<NICKEL.92Apr13185554@avalanche.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division
In-reply-to: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de's message of 13 Apr 92 17:55:54 GMT

>Or look into term/bobcat.el and make this code fit your special needs.

That works pretty well, but you may want to modify the code so it also
swaps M-DEL and M-C-h.

Here's what I use.  From this news thread I guess that this must have
common roots with term/bobcat.el.

By the way, emacs _output_ will still say that you are using DEL, even
though you are using ^h, with this code.

;;For those of you who would like to swap the function of backspace and
;;DEL, here's a quick way to do it that covers ALL instances.
;;
;; Modified 90/3/14 to also swap M-C-h and M-DEL

(let* (
       (n 256)
       (the-table (make-string n 0)))
  (let ((i 0))
    (while (< i n)
      (aset the-table i i)
      (setq i (1+ i))))

  ;; Swap ^H and DEL
  (aset the-table ?\177 ?\^h)
  (aset the-table ?\^h ?\177)

  ;; Swap M-C-h and M-DEL
  (if meta-flag
      (progn
	(aset the-table ?\377 ?\210)
	(aset the-table ?\210 ?\377)
	)
    )

  (setq keyboard-translate-table the-table))

;;This sets up an array called keyboard-translate-table that is used to
;;map the ASCII character set.  The array has 256 elements, and every
;;time the lowest levels of emacs receives an input character, the value
;;of the character is used as an index into the array and then
;;translated into the value of that element of the array.  The above
;;elisp code causes all instances of a backspace (^H) being typed on
;;input to be passed on to the upper level routines of emacs as a DEL
;;character.  The opposite is true when a DEL is typed.
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