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From: grs01132@stat.appstate.edu (Shannon R. Adams)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Repost: Ideas needed on mainstreaming
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:36:52 EDT
Organization: Appalachian State University

Sorry for the Repost.  I did not get many responses on the last post.

I am researching methods to promote peer and/or teacher interaction in 
integrated settings.  My research is geared toward mainstreamed preschools but
I would appreciate ideas for all ages.  

Please send E-mail because I don't read this newsgroup often.  Thanks in 
advance.
-- 
Cecilia Adams     			The only things certain in life are	
<GRS01132@stat.appstat.edu>             death, taxes, and the Duke Blue
<GRS01132@appstat.bitnet>               Devils in March.
Appalachian State University            Sweet Repeat in '92
Academic Computing                      Threepeat in '93
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From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: D.U.D.
Originator: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:18:34 GMT


Paul,
I just got the mail, and in it your package... Thanks! I won't have time
to read it until Easter, and then I'll see if I have changed my mind...
(I do quite often you know! ;-) I would have mailed you, but I deleted
my mailbox the other day when it had 270+ messages in it... :-)
Once again, Thanks!
From: miller@tardis.cl.msu.edu (Eric Miller)
Newsgroups: misc.education
Subject: Foreign students
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:04:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University

I found your comments concerning foreign workers and their widely
varying attitudes toward speaking English interesting.

Many years ago when I was an undergrad at Michigan State, a mining
engineer from mainland China came to live at our student house
to do his Doctorate. Although his English was very poor, he was
obviously very intelligent and had a sense of humor. Within a couple
of years his English became very idiomatic and included an understanding
of American slang and culture, which we enjoyed seeing from his 
perspective. The same could not be said for his Chinese friends,
however. Whenever they would call to talk to Tong, and many had
been here for several years, they spoke as if using such parts of
speech as 'the', 'to' , etc. were entirely optional in English. When
I tried to esplain to one caller that 'I want talk Tong' needed to be
expressed as 'I want TO talk TO Tong' he became upset with me as if I 
had insulted him. I will NEVER, EVER in my life understand how an engineer
can perform feats of magic in differential equations yet be eluded for
years by the proper usage of the word 'the' !?!

Now, I had an opportunity to be placed in their shoes, as it were, 
when a friend and I went to Brazil a couple of years later. Through some
work of my own, I managed to be placed in a situation where no English
and only Portuguese was spoken. It was kind of an upsetting experience
for a couple of weeks not to be able to communicate, but in short time
I found it to be fun learning how to be speak the language and at the
end of four months I could speak Portuguese (with an accent) as
comfortably as I could speak English. The friend I went with, however,
stayed with an English speaking Brazilian family and never did learn
to converse. In my opinion, the key to learning the language was
attitude.

If an engineer were to say to his boss: I don't like these decimals, who
cares if 10.20 is different from 102.0, so what? he would be
summarily fired!  Yet this same attitude is what I see in so many
foreign students here: 'Give me piece paper', 'Give me a piece of
paper' Who cares? Attitude.

The mining engineer not only had a better life in the U.S., but was
also able to sell his services to companies like Ford due to what I
think was entirely a choice of his to better his language. Now it may
be due to certain aptitudes I have, but learning foreign languages is
infinitely easier for me than math and I could become expert in 
Chinese in shorter time than I could be expert in calculus. 

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Eric Miller                          e-mail:  miller@cad.msu.edu
Michigan State University             phone:  (517) 355-1842
Facilities Planning and Space Management
Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: wilde@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Nick Wilde)
Subject: New game: Name that contractor !
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: boulder
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:11:42 GMT

My wife and I find ourselves in need of a contractor, of sorts.
Trouble, is, we're not quite sure of what sort we need to do the job
we have in mind - we were hoping one of you might have an idea of the
appropriate kind of professional, and perhaps even a name or two of a
reputable person in that field. Here's our situation:

We're fortunate enough to have a relatively large backyard, by
downtown Boulder standards :) Unfortunately, most of it is unusable,
at the moment :( It slopes down from the back of the house at a rather
steep grade - we characterize it as "Arapahoe Basin blue slope" -
standing on it, it feels about like west wall at A-basin. Anyway,
after about 25 feet of slope, it levels out for about 20 feet, then
resumes its downward course for another 20 feet or so.

We'd really like to gain access to the level portion - maybe plant a
few fruit trees, or a garden. Unfortunately, its such a mad scramble
to get down there at the moment you have to basically go up and down
on all fours (or head over heels, but thats no fun - too many rocks
and cacti). To that end, we'd like to call in a ??? professional
person, to help us figure out a way to get down there on a regular
basis - perhaps by building a set of stairs down the hill, or cutting
steps into the hillside, or ???

So, what we need is a (landscaper ? Deck Builder to build stairs down
?  Terraformer to reshape the hillside ? Scotty to build us a local
transporter device ?) Any and all suggestions would be welcome, as
would recommendations for reputable contractors in the Boulder area.

Thanks.
	-Nick & Dawn
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      Nick Wilde         |  "The truth is rarely pure and   
 wilde@cs.colorado.edu   |          never simple"          - Oscar Wilde 
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Newsgroups: boulder.general,co.general
From: rickhall@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (Richard Scott Hall)
Subject: Inexpensive diamond source
Keywords: Jewelers, Diamonds
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Distribution: co
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:32:15 GMT

I am in the market for an engagement ring, and I was hoping
that I could draw on the net's collect experience of some
good places to shop for diamonds.  I am interested in a high
quality diamond, but do not wish to pay the overly high price
charged by most "mall" jewelers.  If anyone has any suggestions,
I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,

Richard Hall

-- 
            Richard Hall - University of Colorado at Boulder

                "Life's like holding water in your hands,
                 No grip is tight enough to keep it in." - me
Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: lestak@spot.Colorado.EDU (LESTAK LEANNE R)
Subject: Programmer Position Open at CU
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: boulder
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:30:33 GMT


PROGRAMMER (Professional Research Assistant) to develop 
Macintosh 4th Dimension database, maintain, update, and run 
FORTRAN programs, and manage small Macintosh network for 
ecology laboratory.  Knowledge of Macintosh, UNIX, FORTRAN, 
and relational databases essential.  Experience with UNIX systems 
administration, geographic information systems, particularly 
ARC/INFO, and remote sensing a plus.  Must be flexible and 
interested in working in multi-system environment with non-expert 
users.  Minimum requirement BA in computer science or related 
field, or MA in ecology, geology, or geography with appropriate 
experience.  $25-28,000/year + benefits package.  Send resume, 
including names and addresses of three references, to Marilyn 
Walker, INSTAAR, Campus Box 450, Boulder, CO, 80309-0450, 
or mwalker@taimyr.colorado.edu.  Closing date for applications 
4/21/92.

Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: buckc@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Carolyn Buck-Gengler)
Subject: Needed: native speakers of German in Boulder
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:46:07 GMT

I need native speakers of German for an experiment in silent
reading.  The actual experiment should take 10-15 minutes, and will
be reading coupled with a proof-reading like task.

If you are interested in participating, or know any other native
speakers of German in the Boulder area, please send me email or call
me and I will give you more information and set it up.

Thanks for your help!

Carolyn Buck-Gengler
CU Department of Linguistics
buckc@ucsu.colorado.edu
651-0612 

Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: devin@frodo.colorado.edu (Sonja Orlavski)
Subject: Looking for someplace to live this fall
Followup-To: boulder.general
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:53:28 GMT

We're a stable graduate student couple looking for a place to live this
fall (starting in August).  We have one dog and one cat, so a fenced back
yard is required.  We'd really like to have a house or half of a duplex or
something similar.  Two or three bedrooms are definately preferred.
Boulder is definately preferred, but I imagine we could deal with
Louisville or Layfayette.

We're trying to start looking now, so we can have lots of time to pick and
choose.  If you know of anything that'd work, I'd appriciate it if you'd let
us know.  Thanks.

		-Devin

-- 
Devin Hooker     (RP90)     DoD #0034    devin@boulder.colorado.edu
"It's being both that's a bitch."
"I'm entirely TOO lucid right now."
"This howling in the distance, it's a captivating sound.
	Can't tell if it's ecstasy or pain..."  -DW
Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: weverka@csn.org (Robert T. Weverka)
Subject: Delegates going to New York
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:58:43 GMT


How do you get picked in the succesive elimination of caucus
delegates.  First we go to the County convention, some get to go
on to the State convention, and some of those to the big party
in New York.
  Any one know how to get selected?

I am currently a delegate for the "Great precinct from the 
South East corner of Martin Acres- number 8438".

-Ted

Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: matt@vexcel.com (Matt Jackson)
Subject: FOR SALE: auto
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder, CO
Distribution: co
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:04:58 GMT


'86 VW GTI. 
Needs some cosmetic work, but is in excellent 
mechanical condition and has been a good reliable 
friend. $3195



-- 
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Matt Jackson         email: matt@vexcel.com
Vexcel Corp.         voice: (303) 444-0094
                   surface: 2477 55th St. Boulder, CO 80301
Newsgroups: boulder.general,cu.general
From: chiang@spot.Colorado.EDU (CHIANG TZU-PANG)
Subject: Chinese folk song concert & Free Chinese movies
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 07:12:52 GMT



Ladies & Gentlemen :

    Please be informed of an upcoming concert, featuring some of
the more popular Taiwanese folk singers such as Fang Ji-Wei, Ma Jaw-Chun
etc, on Sunday, 4/12/92. 

Date     : 4/12/92
Time     : 7.00pm
Location : Aurora Central High School (in Denver)
           (junction of 11 street and Newmark; same place as the Double-10
            National Day dinner last year)
Admission : $5.00 for students and $8.00 for others

   For details regarding the concert, please contact either :

        Mr. Liu Tzi-Pin:  447-3351 or
        Mr. Lin Kai-Yung: 786-0798

Thanks.


PS:
   There will be two Chinese movies on 4/11 (Saturday) at the UMC
   Forum room from 1.30pm -- 5.30pm. Admission is free as before .
   Details of the movies will be announced later.



Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: paulo@ohmeda.com (Paul Ourada)
Subject: Re: Let's find somebody to sue
Organization: Ohmeda Monitoring Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:15:52 GMT

elmore@virga.ucar.edu (Kim Elmore) writes:

[stuff deleted...]
>	Come on!  The plaintiffs are going after the deepest pockets
>they think they can get.  I'm all for fairness and proper
>compenstaion, but *this* case has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with
>justice in any way, mean, shape or form and *EVERYTHING* to do with
>avarice and greed.  Maybe not all on the plaintiff's part, but the
>wife's quote was all-revealing: something like "... someone has to pay
>for this..."  Gee, I guess just about anybody will do, eh?
Well, I don't think this is just avarice and greed.  These people are 
trying to rebuild their lives, and are in a great deal of pain while
in the process.  I don't agree with their tactics/strategy for the
same reasons as yourself, but when an animal, *any* animal suffers
enough pain, it will lash out.

>	While I don't like the term "shit happens" because it often
>indicates to me an indifferent shrug when faced with suffering and
>loss, I'm afraid that it literally applies in this case.  Who would
>they sue if a meteorite had struck their home?  The Pope?  Oral
>Roberts?  NASA?
Many people use this term to mean that they are not in control of the
events around them, and that it is appropriate for them to recognize
this.  This  allows them to build/maintain healthy boundaries to 
allow them to operate in the world.  Some people do erect walls 
instead of boundaries, tho....sigh.

>					Kim Elmore
>					N5OP, PP ASEL/Glider 2232456
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>*   "All these *WIRES*!!  Why do they call it 'wireless'?"                    *
>*		Doc Evans (NQ0I) commenting on his ham radio shack.           *
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>Replies to: elmore@virga.rap.ucar.edu (wires)
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regards,

Paul E. Ourada
paulo@ohmeda.com

Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods)
Subject: Re: Let's find somebody to sue
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:43:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.221706.21665@ncar.ucar.edu> rosinski@ncar.ucar.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.183320.4918@ncar.ucar.edu>, woods@ncar.ucar.edu (Greg Woods) writes:
>
>>This is known as the "deep pocket syndrome" and it is exactly what is
>>wrong with our tort system right now. 
>
>The "deep pocket syndrome" is indeed a problem in society today.  It is
>*not* however, a problem with "the system" per se.  It is a problem with
>*people*. 

You're picking nits. The system essentially *is* the people who use it.
But I agree it is the social attitudes right now that create the problem
and not the idea that one can try to obtain redress when one has been
wronged. The problem is that those who didn't do the wrong are frequently
those required to make redress. You can call it a problem with "the people"
and I can call it a problem with "the system", but it's the same bogus result
no matter how you label it.

>>Another problem is contingency fee attorneys
>
>It would seem from your comment that you are laying blame primarily at the
>feet of *lawyers*.

I didn't say "primarily". My comment implies only partial blame and
says nothing about other possible contributing factors. In this case I
think it is more the legal system than the lawyers themselves. As long
as they can get away with it and make a profit, why shouldn't they
initiate the lawsuits? It's the American (capitalist) way. The problem
is that the system is set up so that they *can* make a profit from it.
They have nothing to lose by initiating a frivolous case. Hell, half the
time the insurance companies will settle out of court because in the long
run it's cheaper to pay off a bunch of small losses that they might have won
in court than to pay the court costs and risk the occasional big loss (juries
are, after all, unpredictable and don't always reach the same conclusion
that seems obvious in the insurance company board room). All I'm saying
is that the system should be changed so that the lawyer won't initiate
the lawsuit unless s/he has a real chance to win the case, i.e. it
should cost you when you sue and lose.

--Greg
Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: paulo@ohmeda.com (Paul Ourada)
Subject: Re: New game: Name that contractor !
Organization: Ohmeda Monitoring Systems
Distribution: boulder
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:19:05 GMT

I *highly* recommend Roger Drown, 449-1661

Paul E. Ourada
paulo@ohmeda.com

Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: razor!dunbars (Steven T. Dunbar)
Subject: FOR RENT: Poolside Condo!
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:57:47 GMT

FOR RENT:

1 Bedroom Poolside Condominum at Wimbledon Courts, Boulder.  Three 
blocks from University of Colorado.  Big enough for two people,
available 6/1-9/1 with fall option.  Partially furnished, if desired.
(We will GIVE you some of our furniture!)  

$550/mo 

Please call Mike or Steve 442-2814.
Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: jls2@teal.csn.org (Jeff Stoner)
Subject: Mtns/Want to Rent
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: boulder
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:09:48 GMT


Having found out our apartment rent is going to go up $150/month when we
renew our lease in June, we're looking for a new place to rent. We're
interested in finding something out of the city of Boulder this time, either
on the flats north and northeast of town, or up into the mountains, anywhere
south of Colorado 7 and north of Colorado 119 and Nederland.

What we (2 adults, one cat, no kids) want is pretty general: 2-3 bedrooms,
$500/month or under, within 30 minutes of Boulder, a little secluded and
private, and insulated well enough that we won't have to sell a vehicle
to pay for heating next winter... ;-)

Any e-mail pointers to such would be appreciated!

--Jeff Stoner
  jls2@csn.org

Newsgroups: cu.general,co.general,boulder.general,misc.forsale
From: rainer@spot.Colorado.EDU (Rainer Malzbender)
Subject: Ford Probe GT For Sale
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:07:11 GMT


                  For sale: 1989 Ford Probe GT

This is the high end Probe with the turbo engine. It's quite fast,
especially passing. The guts of the car were essentially built by Mazda.
Purchased in September of 1989 and have had absolutely no complaints with
the car.

24,000 miles. Midnight Garnet, gray interior. A/C, power windows & locks.
Rear defroster, interval wiper, tach, four speaker AM/FM cassette, tilt
steering wheel, electric mirrors. Brand new front tires. Gets over 30 mpg
highway. I'm 6-4 tall and this was one of the few sports cars that fit me.

$9000 obo (purchase price with options, tax, etc. came to about $18K).

Make no mistake, I absolutely love this car. However, the practical realities
of owning a house that requires a constant stream of large construction
items have forced me to replace the Probe with a Ford pickup truck :-(.
Also, getting the baby seat in and out of a two door car was starting to
bug my wife.

-- 
Rainer Malzbender 
Post-doc, Physics
U. of Colorado, Boulder (303)492-1366              rainer@shelley.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: vin@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Vincent Cawley)
Subject: House sitting
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: boulder
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:52:13 GMT


Do any of you Boulder folk need your house sitted
while you're away during the summer?  I want to do it.

Why should you have me?  I'm eminently trustworthy --
I can give references later.  I can deal with 
dogs and cats and gardening and all manner of 
house maintenance.  I'm just a plain nice guy.

Why do I want to do this?  I'm going to have my
15 year old nephew in town for some part of the 
summer.  To add him to my current household would
tax the systems too much, so we're looking for a 
temporary change of venue.

Vincent Cawley
Newsgroups: boulder.general,co.general,rec.arts.theatre,soc.culture.soviet
From: gauss@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (GAUSS  REBECCA BANKER)
Subject: Chekov plays at CU April 30 and May 2
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:30:39 GMT

Two Chekov plays, The MARRIAGE PROPOSAL, and THE CHERRY ORCHARD, will
be presented at the Theatre Department on the University of Colorado
Boulder campus at 8pm April 30 and May 2.  There is no admission charge.

For further information e-mail to gauss@ucsu.colorado.edu, or call the
CU Theatre Department.


Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: razor!dunbars (Steven T. Dunbar)
Subject: FOR SALE: Uzi 9mm Carbine
Keywords: gun, uzi
Organization: Rocky Mountain NeXT Users' Group
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:36:55 GMT



For Sale:

Uzi 9mm Semi-Automatic Model-A carbine.  Mint condition, in original box,  
imported from Israel, less than 400 rounds shot, and includes two extra 25
round clips.

$850

THIS WEAPON IS UNREGISTERED, IS ILLEGAL TO OWN IN SOME METROPOLITAN
AREAS, AND I AM IN NO WAY LIABLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF THE PURCHASER.

If interested, please respond by E-mail to:

dunbars@spot.colorado.edu

Newsgroups: boulder.general,co.general
From: eyoung@teal.csn.org (Emilie A. Young)
Subject: FOR SALE: Apartment Washer/Dryer
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: co
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:35:51 GMT

FOR SALE: appliances that can change your life ...

Do you like your apartment but hate going to the laundromat? 

	Kenmore Heavy Duty PORTABLE washer and dryer 
		white - great condition 
		$400 for pair, $250 for washer alone
	
Usable in any apartment. The washer hooks up to your kitchen or bathroom 
sink, the dryer plugs into the wall. Both are on wheels for easy access.

- Emilie
eyoung@csn.org
Newsgroups: boulder.general
From: melle@graham.uswest.com ( Chris Melle )
Subject: Let's find somebody to sue.
Originator: melle@graham
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Distribution: boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:33:02 GMT

Did anyone catch "Dateline" earlier this week?  They had a segment about
the aging National Weather Service (NWS). One woman lost her husband
in a tornado which the NWS failed to "adequately" warn people of. She
said the "NWS was absolutely negligent in the death of my husband."

Here, the woman has moved the responsibility for accident from her
husband (for failing to watch the weather) to the government. And
why not?  Every time we turn around, our benevolent government is trying
to "protect" us from our own mistakes (i.e. seat belt law, helmet law,
out of bounds laws, etc. etc.). But in this case, the government said
the service was adequate for the current state of the system.

I think government "safety" policy and quick-to-sue-since-it-wasn't-
my-fault mentality of the general populus escalate each other. Maybe
to solve the problem, both sides need to be addressed. If government
gave us more responsibility, maybe we would take more responsibility.

$.02,

-Chris

-- 
Chris Melle    U S WEST Adv. Tech.        FAX: 303 541 6773
4001 Discovery Drive, Suite 320         Phone: 303 541 6836
Boulder, CO  80303                   Internet: melle@uswest.com
UUCP: ...{boulder,bellcore,att,sunpeaks}!uswat!melle