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From: Seth Ness <ness@aecom.yu.edu>
Subject: tanach directory on nysernet
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <Seth Ness <ness@aecom.yu.edu>>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:50:56 GMT



              NYSERNET TANACH DIRECTORY-THE PLUG


hello all,
This is the periodical plug for the nysernet tanach directory. Now
accessible to the world via anonymous FTP to israel.nysernet.org in the
/israel/tanach directory. Or by Gopher to the new york-israel project of
nysernet under other gophers/north american gophers/USA and thence to
israel/tanach.

Now featuring the tanach in hebrew(minus some neviim)-please note that
this is not that masoretic text so read the README files. Also available
by special arrangement.. the biblia hebraica stuttgartensia. again read
the README files.

Also featuring myriad divrei torah by the likes of Rav Riskin, Rav Haber,
Rav Alter, Rav Levitansky, and also A Byte of Torah and L'Chaim. With a
dash of miscellaneous divrei torah and shiurim.

If anyone out there is aware of more sources for these or any other divrei
torah please let me know so they can be added to the archives.





Seth L. Ness                         Ness Gadol Hayah Sham
ness@aecom.yu.edu                      




Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller)
Subject: Re: Lyrics to Hatikva
Reply-To: aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:58:52 GMT


In a previous article, PC2370A@auvm.american.edu (Peter M. Cohen) says:

>Also, I would like the lyrics to Aveinu Shalom Alechem both in Hebrew and
>English.

I'm not sure if Shalom Alechem is the same as Aveinu Shalom Alechem, but
I'll send the words anyway:

Sha-lom a-lay-chem mal-a-hay ha-sho-rays mal-a-hay el-yon,
Mi-me-lech mal-chay ha-m'lo-cheem, ha-ko-dosh bo-ruch hu.

Bo-a-chem l'sha-lom, mal-a-chay ha-sho-lom, mal-a-chay ey-yon,
Mi-me-lech mal-chay ha-m'lo-cheem, ha-ko-dosh bo-ruch hu.

Bor-chu-nee l'sho-lom, mal-a-chay ha-sho-lom, mal-a-chay el-yon,
Mi-me-lech mal-chay ha-m'lo-cheem, ha-ko-dosh bo-ruch hu.

Tsay-s'chem, l'sho-lom mal-a-chay ha-sho-lom mal-a-chay el-yon,
Mi-me-lech mal-chay ha-m'lo-cheem, ha-ka-dosh bo-ruch hu.

(I hope there are no typos!)

Peace be unto you, ye mininstering angels,
Messengers of the Most High, the King of kings,
The Holy One, blessed be He.
May your coming be in peace, messengers of peace.
Bless me with peace, ye messengers of peace,
And may your departure be in peace, messengers of peace,
Angels of the Most High, blessed be He.



Marlene

-- 
       No nation can survive without pride in its traditions.
       Marlene J. Miller   aa324@yfn.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: horen@netcom.com (Jonathan B. Horen -- [408] 736-3923)
Subject: Re: A self-confessed silly thread: Jewish Rock/Pop Stars
Organization: NetCom -- OnLine Communication Services
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:03:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.040121.29604@zeus.franklin.edu> scruggs@zeus.franklin.edu (Kevin Scruggs) writes:
>In article <1hau2eINN9p8@morrow.stanford.edu> aliki@nova1.stanford.edu (Alexandra Schmidt) writes:
>>Admittedly, many are best described as 'of Mosaic descent' (non-affiliated,
>>but born to Jewish mothers).  Any additions?  
>>
>>Barry Manilow
>>Barbra Streisand
>>Neil Diamond
>>Danny Elfman (drummer, Oingo Boingo)
>>Adam Horowitz (Beastie Boys)
>>Adam Yauch (Beastie Boys)
>>Michael Diamond (Beastie Boys)
>>Susanna Hoffs (lead singer, Bangles)
>>Michael Steele (bassist, Bangles)
>>Bob Dylan
>>Geddy Lee (lead singer/bassist, Rush)
>>David Lee Roth
>	Paul Stanley (guitarist/vocalist, KISS)
>	Gene Simmons (bassist/vocalist, KISS)
>>Eric Bloom (Blue Oyster Cult)
>>Hillel Slovak (original guitarist for the Red Hot Chili Peppers until he OD'ed)

Kinky Friedman (of "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus, Anymore" fame)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.jewish:24031 soc.culture.arabic:5962
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: deportation
Date: 27 Dec 92 16:30:10 GMT
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.

cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah) writes:

>>	Jews come from that land.  The "palestinians?" come from Arab
>>invasions.

>Where were the jews when Arabs invaded palestine?  Did the Arabs
>also invade Jordan, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, and Lebanon?

The Jews had been deported.  Unfortunately, there was no UN around to
condemn either the Babylonians or the Romans.  (Of course, if there
was a UN, it probably would have condemned the Jews for being weak
enough to lose a war.)

>>	Correct.  "palestine?" does not exist.  It never has.

>Does that mean the "palestine" in the bible was a fiction?

There is no "Palestine" in the bible.  There's Canaan, there's Israel,
but the name Palestine was given to Eretz Yisrael as part of the Roman
policy of ethnic cleansing, as they tried to wipe Eretz Yisrael of any
trace of Jewish civilization.
-- 
Alan H. Stein   -----  AJIN   -----  astein@israel.nysernet.org
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: A self-confessed silly thread: Jewish Rock/Pop Stars
Date: 3 Jan 93 08:32:43 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <229@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP> ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon) writes:
>
>[ANISA] Sorry, Tsiel, but he was Roman Catholic.
>
>That's great news ... Now I can listen to him again without any bad feelings:-)

?  Why would you have any?  I don't get it ... are you saying that you
have bad feelings towards Muslims in general?  Actually, I think it
would be the opposite, considering the experience he encountered two years
ago, when he tried to visit the Holy Land (he was harrassed and not allowed in).
Maybe it was that big beard ... ?  Tsiel, you might know that Yousef Islam
donates the profits from his records to Islam and Muslims charities.  Having
second thoughts?
 
Anisa
	"Allow us - we'll show the way ..."

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller)
Subject: Re: Urgent Appeal-Jerusalem Rabbi Mistakenly Arrested!
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:15:27 GMT

On 22 Dec 1992 02:59:53 GMT, schuman@eacces.wpd.sgi.com (Aaron Schuman) said:

Daniel> A well respected Rabbi from Jerusalem has 
Daniel> been arrested along with his brother recently 
Daniel> in California. Because the charges are 
Daniel> ridiculous...

A> The defendants may be innocent, but the charges aren't ridiculous.

A> When they were apprehended, the trunk of their car contained a
A> knife, plastic handcuffs, a floor plan of their alleged victim's
A> house showing the location of a shotgun, and other items that
A> cast strong suspicion.

A> A well regarded rabbi visited them in jail, and reported in the
A> Jewish Bulletin of Northern California that he believes that
A> each suspicious circumstance has a reasonable explanation.

	I was discussing this with my military rabbi a week (2 weeks?)
ago.  The "handcuffs" are the pull-type bands used by police during riot
control.  They also happened to be used to hogtie sheep when they're
being sheared; as I understand it, the rabbis help raise sheep.  It
turns out that they're considerably cheaper to buy here in bulk than in
Israel. 

	Lots of Orthodox carry knives with them so they have kosher
implements to cut and eat raw vegtables with when kosher dining is
unavailable.  As it was related to me, the rabbis were arrested in their
car where they were doing just that.

	The floor plan was given them by the daughter of the "victim"
who knows both of them and gave them the key and permission to use the
house since the "victim" was away.  It's called "hospitality;" I know
that's not something you run into in California a lot, but hey, they're
from Israel.  ;)

	They're being help without bail because the police involved
think that they've arrested a Mossad hit squad.  One of the rabbis was
carrying a business card (in Hebrew).  On the card was a word they got
translated-- "mossad."  Mossad means group, and if they had bothered to
translate the rest of the card, they would have discovered that it was
referring to the local (Israeli) soccer team the rabbi is involved with.
Even so, doesn't it seem strange that a Mossad hit-man would carry a
business card to that effect?

A> I don't know any more than I read in the Bulletin and in the
A> Palo Alto Weekly, but I think they will have a difficult time
A> proving their innocence in court.  If they are truly innocent,
A> I wish them luck and divine assistance, because they really need
A> it this time.

	What they need is a few more police out there with more sense in
their heads than the avereage avacado.

-- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
"Or grapefruit.  Let's give the boys in blue the benefit of the doubt."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Subject: Re: Latkes (was Re: Ascii Chanukah symbols?)
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:20:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.135747.6499@linus.mitre.org> jclander@symphony.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander) writes:
>|> Yuch!  Does anyone else eat latkes with sour cream?  I thought the only 
>|> way to eat them was with apple sauce.
>
>My family eats them with apple sauce, except for my stepfather, who prefers sour
>cream.  My mother describes him as being from New York (we're all from
>Boston).  He isn't, but then he isn't Jewish either. 
>But it may indicate that Jews from New York have been
>known to serve sour cream with latkes. (They eat funny bagels, too: soft and
>fat.  I like thin, hard ones.)

I consider apple sauce completely repulsive in general, though nobody
else in my family does, but we never ate latkes with it.  We very rarely
ate latkes with sour cream, usually only if they were being served as a 
second course after borscht.  We ate them sprinkled with sugar.  I've
never run into anyone else who does this outside of my family and some old
family friends so it may be unique to people from Kovno, Lithuania.  

And New York bagels are *not* soft.  They're thick, yes, but proper ones
are chewy.  In fact, proper ones are considered suitable for use as
teething rings for infants.

Miriam Nadel
Xref: sparky soc.culture.jewish:23669 talk.politics.mideast:23871
From: aplebaum@irs01.cs.huji.ac.il (Hillel Applebaum)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: ERETZ YISRAEL (was Re: deportation)
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:26:17 GMT
Organization: The Hebrew U. of Jerusalem, Computer Science Dep.
NNTP-Posting-Host: irs01.cs.huji.ac.il

In article <92363.183522CARIAN@auvm.american.edu>, <CARIAN@auvm.american.edu> writes:
|> In article <1hni0gINN4jb@pita.cs.huji.ac.il>, aplebaum@irs01.cs.huji.ac.il
|> (Hillel Applebaum) says:
|> >
|> >Pls tell me if I'm wrong.
|> >I think that regardless to been a left/right winger,
|> >all religious Israelis/jews knew that ERETZ YISRAEL
|> >is the homeland of jews and no other nation. The only
|> >thing they might disagree about is wheather is worth
|> >trading parts of it for peace.
|> 
|> It depends on what you mean and I'm not sure how to understand what you
|> have written.
|> 
|> If you mean that Eretz Yisrael is the homeland of the Jews and that no other
|> country is the homeland of the Jews then of course you are right.
|> 
|> If you mean that Eretz Yisrael is the homeland of the Jews and not of any
|> other nation as well then you are wrong, because it is also the homeland
|> of the Palestinians.
[sd

Let me clear myself.
I'd like to know what JEWS think, not what is the arab position
(1. I knew it. 2. it's scj not sca), nor I want an 'objective'
point of view. You Jews - what do YOU think, is there a right 
on ERETZ-YISRAEL to other nation.

PLS - don't answer my with what you think the political way out
should be. 

-- 

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/ Jerusalem,   Israel     |  jews should live !		then peace without it.
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Date: Saturday, 26 December 1992 22:49:10 MST
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.15R
From: "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com>
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
Subject: REAL Cheese?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Distribution: world

Friday I was restocking the cheese supply, and got into an interesting
discussion.  The only 5# blocks of "cheddar" on display were the
(inedible) "Pasteurized process American" <stuff>, and I explained
that I wanted REAL cheese.  Another customer, who turned out to be
a mashgiach, claimed that there was no such thing as REAL kosher
cheese because of the rennet.

Well, in the spring of 1989 the FDA approved rennet produced by
bioengineered bacteria.  The writeups at the time claimed that it
would replace the animal product because it was both cheaper and
much more consistent in it's properties.

Well, I haven't seen much change.  Kraft fersher hasn't gone kosher,
but I can understand that.  The continued dismal quality of kosher
cheese is a little harder to understand, unless either:

1) Nobody certifies the artificial rennet (why not?);
2) There's no market for a change -- folks who keep kosher
   are baby-ducked to the <stuff> they grew up with;
3) I'm missing something altogether!

For what it's worth, my talkative mashgiach was just as baffled
as I am, so perhaps this last night of Hannukah someone can shed
a little light?

--- D. C. Sessions                            Speaking for myself ---
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: rmt51@cas.org (Rick Turkel)
Subject: Re: Talmud on determining sex
Reply-To: rmt51@cas.org
Organization: S.W.I.G.
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:43:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.200136.5644@cbnews.cb.att.com>, ask@cbnews.cb.att.com
(Arthur S. Kamlet) writes:
|> 
			[stuff deleted]
|> 
|> A slightly different question:
|> 
|>   I had heard that the reason a woman is "unclean" for two weeks
|> after the birth of a girl, but only one week after the birth of a
|> boy, is so she can attend the brit.   I don't know if this is a
|> "cute" response or a real one.

It is neither cute nor correct.  The main reason is that it is so stated in
Leviticus; it is a 'chok,' for which no explanation is given.  One reason I
have heard given, however, is that the second week is for the potential
child(ren) of the girl child.

|> But I would ask if the "normal" time is one week but a girl causes
|> the time to extend to two weeks, or if it is normally two weeks but
|> the birth of a son reduces the time to one week.

There is no connection between the mother being 'unclean' and attendance at
the brit, because the status of ritual impurity does not limit her mobility
in any way.  

|> So, can the mother attend the brit in the case of a boy/girl twin?
|> -- 
|> Art Kamlet  a_s_kamlet@att.com  AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus

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From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Israel must return the deportees!
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:25:18 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Dec29.140126.10452@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>
>Thank you for quoting Palestinian propoganda to soc.culture.jewish.  Just
>what we need.

Are you confusing propoganda with fact, Sam?  There is a difference, you
know.  Do you practice fair standards and condemn the racist attacks
against Arabs, from people like Gideon, who continually post propoganda
pieces?

>So maybe this is where those $%&^@!! Jews get their violent streak....

No, its from people like Kahane ...

>>David Turner
>>(A British Jew who does NOT support Israel)
>
>Which proves you don't have to be a nonJew to be an antisemite.

No, it only proves that not all Jews are brainwashed.  That reminds
me to repost that 'Bucking the Jewish Establishment' article.  I'm
sure you'll enjoy it, thoroughly.
 
Anisa

	"A vulgar display of power ..."
From: ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: antisemitism in action
Date: 30 Dec 92 10:53:38 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <1992Dec29.172732.28906@wam.umd.edu> aap@wam.umd.edu
(Alberto Adolfo Pinkas) writes:

>In article <4598@bimacs.BITNET> ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich) writes:
>>In article <531@owl.ukc.ac.uk> dat@ukc.ac.uk (D.A.Turner) writes:
(David Turner):
>>>During the last seven days  12  palestinians  have  been  shot
>>>dead  by Israeli  forces in Gaza and the West Bank.  This includes
>>>a ten year old girl, Rana Abu Tyour, shot while she went to get
>>>milk in a curfew break.

>>>She  bled  to  death  in  an  alley,  while  Israeli  soldiers with guns
>>>prevented anyone from going to help her.
>>
( Gideon Ehrlich):
>>A typical anti-Semite propaganda., based on hatered only.
>
(David Turner):
>I do not see where the anti-semitic propaganda is.

You David, ignored the fact that each of the strangers was killed
while they attact Jews with knives, breaks, axes and guns, or when
they were among a mub doing that.
Starting the stories with "  12  palestinians  have  been  shot
                             dead  by Israeli  forces"
without writuut mentioning the reason each of them was shot, means
that you considered murdering Jews as an acceptable action if not a
positive action. A person who support killing Jews because they are
Jews is definitely an Anti Semite.

David know the RAS BURKA case  when Egyptian soldiers killed and
wounded several Jews from Israel at Sini desert and prevented the rest
from stoping the bleeding of some of the wounded till they die. So David
just made up a simmilar story about Jews he semmed to hate so much.
Writting:
 " Israeli soldiers with guns prevented anyone from going to help her"
While knowing that in each case Jews give 1st aid to Arabs , no matter
what the reason they need it is , proovs the writer is an anti Semite.

>>>David Turner
>>>(A British Jew who does NOT support Israel)
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>"Just a racist may say that just a gentile may be an anti-Semite "
>>                                                            M.Y. Self
>>
>
>Being a Jew who does not support Israel is not being an anti-semite or a
>racist.
>I resent that quotation.    AAP

When a Jew find the need to declare that he is loiyal to the country
he lieved at , and that he is not loyal to the Jewish state , he
proves himself to be a SHVANZ.
 I am sure that british gentiles reading his declaration consider
him to be a SHVANZ as well.
A person who does not hate his national origion will never write such
a shvanzic decxlaration. J.F. Kenedy was of an Irish origion, he never
defined himself as "An American Irish who does NOT support Ireland"
morever he even visited Ireland to demonstrate his connection to his
origion.
Shalom    Gideon Ehrlich     A Jew who does support the Jewish state





























Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: dkhaikin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dmitry Khaikin)
Subject: Re: Mezuza question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:05:05 GMT

In article <105637@bu.edu> simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov) writes:
>Dima Khaikin writes:
>>One more thing you have to
>>remember is that you have about 30 days to put them up once you move in.
>>So, if a Rabbi can't make it earlier, then you should put it up yourself.
>
>Isn't it, that you shouldn't do it before 30 days ?
>(it is considered temporary dwelling before that ,
>on the other hand, if you are paying mortgage already,
>you dont feel it as a temporary one (-:[).

No. You should put it up as soon as you can, but there is an opinion
that it is ok to wait 30 days, since you might not be sure you are going
to stay in this house, or you can't get the mezuzot that quick, and so
on... But you should put it up as soon as you can.
>
>Simon

Happy Chanikkah,
Dima


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: ACLU/AJC Menorah Police?
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:36:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.154347.12623@starbase.trincoll.edu> nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:

# In article <1992Dec21.073102.12213@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternl
# ight) writes:

# >At the Beverly Hills Menorah lighting ceremony Sunday night, presided
# >over by the Mayor of Beverly Hills, the Vice-Mayor, and a Chabad Rabbi,
# >it was stated that the ACLU and the American Jewish Committee went
# >to court Sunday morning to stop it (and lost).

# >Does anyone know what the h... is going on when the AJC tries to stop
# >a menorah lighting?

# What the hell is going on is this: the AJC, with the approval I
# suspect of most American Jews, is fighting for a secular rather
# than religious society.  If you think you'd prefer the latter,
# contemplate for a moment who would be running it.

	If they wanted to fight for a secular society that permitted
religious expression that would be one thing.  After all, my tax
dollars were used to buy public property and I would like to be able
to use it (although I do not think the state should pay for the
menorah - I should be allowed to use my own).  However, it would seem
that they are fighting for a secular society without any religion at
all.  If you prefer that, I suggest you contemplate the consequences.
--
	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
at math and those that are not.

makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: wnbc@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (Joseph Samuel Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Jewish STEREOTYPES - the last time
Keywords: CLOSEMINDED OFFENDED IDIOTS
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:22:18 GMT

While I was growing up, the thing that I liked about Jews the most was  
their ability to laugh at their own misfortunes - and, for that matter,  
others' misfortunes.  This is called COMEDY - and it has been with Jews  
for at least since Milton Berle - and probably way before that.   
Personally, when I'm around whomever, I make jokes about blacks, Jews,  
gays, Christ, Arabs, etc, etc, etc.  I have no problem when I hear Jew  
jokes coming out of the mouths of goyim.  I'd be a hypocrite if I did.   
Your problem is that you think stereotype jokes cause hatred for that  
group.  This is not the problem.  The problem is that people like you, who  
voice there opposition towards such jokes, cause them to go underground,  
much like the KKK, where hate builds.  We must learn to live with our  
stereotypes, because, for the most part, they are true.  Jews do have big  
noses;  Jews are the wealthiest ethnic group in the U.S.A.;  Jews are  
bankers, lawyers, and doctors;  Jews have a powerful lobby in Congress.   
It's like Lenny Bruce said, if everyone used words like nigger, kike,  
spic, and wop in their everyday language, the words would not come to mean  
what they mean today.  ......  But most important the Jews have COMEDY.  
--
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