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From: jclander@texas.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Subject: Boston tunnels (was Re: Ft. Devens Airport)
Reply-To: jclander@texas.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:31:27 GMT

In article <lcor2uINNb90@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct1.223154.7209@etnibsd.uucp>, vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris) writes:
|> 
|> |> 	==== Boston parochialism flame ON ====
|> |> 
|> |> Once again Boston demonstrates its provinciality with its choice of
|> |> names for the two tunnels between Boston and East Boston.  In most
|> |> cities, it would simply be the XXX tunnels, which you could take either
|> |> inbound or outbound, east or west, etc..
|> 
|> I believe the tunnels were built at different times.   Originally
|> there was just one two-lane tunnel carrying two-way traffic
|> (a configuration still used occasionally when repairs are being
|> done on one of the tunnels)
|> 

If I remember correctly, the Sumner is the older of the two.  I think
it dates back to the 1920's.  The Callahan was 1940's or '50's (I
vaguely think Callahan himself was killed in WWII--there are
plaques above the portals to both tunnels, I think on the Boston
side.)

The Tobin bridge also dates back to the 1950's, and the extension
of I-93 from route 128 (I-95) to the central artery wasn't done 
until the 1970's.  Before then, access to the north and west was up
route 28 (McGrath and O'Brien highways).  There was a ferry to East
Boston, but I think it was passenger only.  It closed in the late
1950's or early 1960's.  (The subway tunnel is 1923.)

I tend to refer to the directions of the Sumner and Callahan tunnels
as north and south because they go from Boston to the North Shore and
route 1A, which uses them, is a north-south route.

Julian C. Lander
jclander@mitre.org
From: mrubin@ra.cs.umb.edu (Mark Rubin)
Newsgroups: ne.general,umb.general
Subject: Model Rocket Discounts
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:48:59 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

For those of you interested in model rocketry, there is a Wholesale Hobby
shop in Illinois that offers up to 40% off the manufacturer's sugg. retail
price. They ship C.O.D., no credit cards and require a $30 after discount
minimum. If anyone is interested in getting together to order when you
don't want to order $30 worth of stuff, and to split shipping then send me
mail. They stock Estes, Custom Rocket Company and Model Rectifier Corp.
rockets and accessories. If the items are in stock they'll ship within 24
hours. Thanks.

-Mark
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From: obrien@sparc28.hri.com (Jim Obrien)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: EYE PAIN REFIEF
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:22:24 GMT
Reply-To: obrien@bigbird.hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.



Lately my eyes have been hurting, and are usually very
red. I have tried natural tears eye drops, but it seems
to make them feel worse. 

I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good eye 
doctor or eye physician.

                                    thankx jimm..

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From: richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:56:03 GMT
Organization: Kronos Inc. / Waltham, MA
Disclaimer: This posting is a personal opinion and not that of Kronos Inc.

navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
>>for that same service (plus the supposedly "free" features which I don't want
>>nor need), I'm being charged over 14 dollars.

phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill) writes:
>A $14 phone bill and you are complaining???  Wake up and join the real world.
>I'd love to only have to pay $14 for phone service.

From the _NYNEX White Pages 1992_, page 11:

	"Measured Service:  $5.62/mo"

No one's posted that little fact thus far, and it has a pretty strong
bearing on the discussion.  I gather that those who are whining that this
BU student is a crybaby for screeching about a $14 phone bill probably
spend a good deal of time on long-distance calls, running up bills 10
times that much.  There's a recession going on, and $14/mo adds up to
$168/yr.  Just because someone's going to BU doesn't mean that $168 isn't
a large sum of money to them.

But more to the point, Ma Bell and the BU administration _are_ giving
students the shaft, because the off-campus price is just $5.62/mo.

-rich
From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: What is Brown University's e-mail address?
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:41:09 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: schin@acs.bu.edu

Hello

Whatl is Brown's e-mail address. I am trying to find Sarah Roff who I
think is at the Medical School there.

REgardsa
NEil Schier
Newsgroups: ne.general,ne.food
From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Subject: Re: Restaurant on Mohawk Trail (Rt 2)
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:32:42 GMT


In article <1992Oct2.134017.28358@linus.mitre.org> djb@bambam (David J. Braunegg) writes:

   In article <1992Oct1.160419.4705@spdcc.com> jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz) writes:
   >I vaguely remember that there is a restaurant on the Mohawk Trail, perhaps
   >on a bend in the road that is quite scenic.  Anyone know what I'm thinking
   >of?  Name, location, how much of a tourist trap, etc.?

   On Route 9 in Vermont, there is a restaurant on a curve at Hogback
   Mountain.  It has a view of a few states (in clear weather), I think.


I don't know the name either but I think I know the one you mean.
Right on the big switchback just before North Adams.  Sorry, no other
info for you.

jv

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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: lmf@gtech.com (Linda M. Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:46:39 GMT

In article <97127@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
>   New England Telephone should realize that students, most of all, should be
>given a break instead of being forced to foot a bill like this...I am aghast
>at their actions.  I will not pay a cent more than regular subscribers in 
>Boston pay.
>
uh... Why should students, most of all, be given a _break_?  I am always amazed
at how much the world panders to students with student rates on this, that, 
and the other thing.  Some students I know have MUCH more money than I do!

(How many students have left the state (or country) without PAYING the phone 
bill?  I wonder how much the rest of the customers subsidize this?)

Just curious...

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                               55 Plan Way           GTECH for my thoughts,
Linda M. Fitzpatick      West Greenwich, RI 02817         or lack of!)
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: grady@world.std.com (Dick Grady)
Subject: Re: Inbound vs. Outbound
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:18:12 GMT

In article <DBROOKS.92Oct2234032@penge.osf.org> dbrooks@penge.osf.org (David Brooks) writes:
>ed@odi.com (Ed Schwalenberg) writes:
>
>> Sardonic question: which way is the third harbor tunnel going to go?
>
>Down.

Let's hope it comes up again.

-- 
            Dick Grady               grady@world.std.com

       Do-it-yourself Term Limits:  Re-elect NO-ONE !
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Early Music English & Italian Voice & Viol Concert in MA
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:06:58 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

WALTHAM, MA--October 1, 1992--Longy Music School faculty member
Jane Hershey, playing the Viola de Gamba, joined an ensemble of
leading area musicians in a Brandeis University concert "English
and Italian Music for Voice & Viols."  A superb soprano, Roberta
Anderson also joined Viols Laura Jeppesen, Sarah Mead and Emily
Walhout, all highly skilled musicians.

They performed works by Robert White, William Byrd, Alfonso
Ferrabosco II, Girolamo Frescobaldi, Giovanni Maria Trabaci,
John Ward, Richard Farrant, Luca Marenzio, John Bennet, and
Richard Nicholson, all of whom were born prior to 1600.  The
audience reaction was highly favorable to the performance.

The group regularly performs Early Music concerts in the
Boston area.  Their next upcoming "Hesperus" concert will be
October 10 and 11 in the Pittsburgh area.

They have a Titanic label CD entitled Music for Viola da Gamba,
with Laura Jeppesen and Jane Hershey.  Longy's acclaimed Jane Hershey
studied with Weiland and Sigiswald Kuyken at the prestigious Hague
Conservatory in the Netherlands.  However, she is not currently giving
any concerts there in the Netherlands, at least in 1992.

by Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
From: navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Two type of baybank machines: was: Anyone else get this from BayBank?
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:49:59 GMT
Reply-To: navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
Followup-To: ne.general
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Sep11.141345.12120@osf.org> ede@kadabra.osf.org (Ted Ede) writes:

>They are the "Express Cash" machines. Generally found in supermarkets.
>They can usually be identified easily by the absence of a deposit door
>and a bin that cash spits into.
>
>I agree with you, baybank keeps the annoyance factor a just the level
>to be aggravating.  
>
>   Ted Ede -- ted@world.std.com -- on contract at the Open Software Foundation
>      -- All views expressed are mine unless explicitly stated otherwise --
>	           -- This line intentionally left blank  --

   The most amusing sight I've seen in terms of ATM placement is in Kenmore
Square...There's a BayBank with a row of ATM's in it, and right next door is
a Store 24.  On the other side of the wall from the row of ATMs is a BayBank
Xpress24 CASH.  Someone will fork out 75 cents extra just to avoid walking a
few feet.  The sad thing is, it's true...

			   Dipesh Navsaria
	              (navsaria@bu-pub.bu.edu)
         "Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty"
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: cgates@mitre.org (Curt Gates)
Subject: 9th International Quahog Festival
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:43:52 GMT

The 9th International Quahog Festival featuring outstanding food, live 
entertainment, educational exhibits, and *FREE* admission and *FREE* 
parking takes place next weekend, October 3-4, at the Wickford Festival 
Grounds at 235 Tower Hill Road, Wickford, RI, (behind Duffys Tavern).   
Includes special events for kids.  Hours are 10 to 6 each day.  

FOOD & FOOD, AND FOOD:  clam cakes, stuffed quahogs, quahog chowders, 
lobsters, and steamers  prepared on premises by chefs from well known 
Rhode Island restaurants and caterers.

EVENTS:  Hermit crab races, clam shucking contests, quahog shell tossing 
contests, and the Professional Baked Stuffed Quahog Contest with stuffies 
from restaurants and around New England as chefs compete for the honor of 
creating the worlds best stuffie.

EDUCATION: Jack Wait on quahog lore, Curt Gates on wampum making, exhibits 
from the Rhode Island Fishermen and Whale Museum, displays by Rhode Island 
Shellfishermens Association, including typical quahog skiff, fishing 
gear, and other educational materials. Talks by Captain Conservation from 
the Narragansett Bay Commission.

LIVE ENTERTAINMENT: Music (traditional, folk, jazz, country, and rock) 
including blues artist Paul Geremia.  On Sunday, Ted Bird will do his 
current hit, Driving in Rhode Island.  Other groups include the Rhode 
Island Old Time Fiddlers and Jim McGrath & The Reprobates.  Also 
storytellers, magician, dancers, and ice sculpture.

NEW ENGLAND CRAFTS: featuring wampum and other forms of body ornament made 
from the shell of the quahog (mercenaria mercenaria). 

For more information, call 1-800-854-8584 or 401-295-2570.  Sponsored by 
the non-profit Seafood Marketing Group, Inc.

 
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:08:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.181243.22743@osf.org> ede@kadabra.osf.org (Ted Ede) writes:

   $4.22 more per month?  Over nine months that's almost $38.  I'm sure
   they hosed you more for tuition and room and board this year, probably
   by 8-12%.  Have your teachers become 8 to 12% better over the summer?
   Has the size of your room or the quality of the food increased by 8 to
   12%?  I doubt it.

This is just plain stupid.  It may certainly be true that BU raised
tuition "by 8-12%" (although I'd say that before making accusations
like that, it would be nice if you would check your facts, instead of
saying "probably" and then basing a whole flame on your assumption).
That's one problem.  The fact that BU is forcing students to use a
particular type of phone service and forcing them to pay more for it
than they should have to is another problem.  The two are unrelated to
each other, other than the fact that they are two different ways (out
of many) in which BU is screwing over its students.  It's just so much
spewage to tell someone that they don't have a right to be upset about
one problem, just because there is another problem that seems more
significant to *you*.  What gives you the right to decide what
people's priorities should be?

   Or maybe you could do something really radical, like get service
   directly from New England Telephone.  But, whoa, hold onto that $38.
   The installer will want it to connect up the phone.  You'll then have
   the privilege of paying higher rates for less service.

BU owns the dorms, and I don't think they allow New England Telephone
to run new wires into them, which means that to do this, NET would
have to use the existing wires.  And they *can't* use the existing
wires, because BU has given exclusive access to them to ACUS.  Which
means that, as he said, the original poster *can't* get service
directly from NET.

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From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Anyone know Sarah Roff?
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:24:30 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: schin@acs.bu.edu

Hello

I am trying to get ahold of Sarah Roff She graduated form Yale in '90 (with
a degree in history) and I believe did some graduated work at Brown

Regards
NEil Schier
.


Newsgroups: ne.general
From: rg@msel.unh.edu (Roger Gonzalez)
Subject: Newburyport MA
Organization: Denning Mobile Robotics
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:44:01 GMT


Well, I'm moving to downtown Newburyport on Monday.  Any residents online here
that can fill me in on what there is to do, where to go, where to eat, etc?

Seems like a nice place, but I couldn't find any place to live except small
apartments and run down houses.  Sigh.

-Roger
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  bear a limited, superficial resemblance to real flowers, but with no
  credible attempt to match their internal complexity in terms of form,
  function, or behavior.

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE: Really smart computers.

Roger Gonzalez - rg@msel.unh.edu     (508) 658-7800 (fax -2492)
Denning Mobile Robotics, 21 Concord Street, Wilmington MA 01887
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Going to see the Rocks
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:00:08 GMT
	<BETSYS.92Sep26121830@ra.cs.umb.edu>
	<1992Sep28.170621.16476@kronos.com>
Distribution: ne
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

The reason you aren't supposed to take rocks from Hawaii is, in all
seriousness, that volcanic rocks belong to Pele the Fire Goddess and
it is very bad luck to take them.
  Every year the Hawaii Parks service receive thousands of rocks back
in the mail.
  Interesting place, Hawaii. You *DO NOT MAKE JOKES* about Pele in
Hawaii. Just in case...
  Remind me to tell you about the building my parents lived in there,
a 30-story apartment building which had to be 'exorcised' by the
Kahunas. 
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From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:20:04 GMT
Organization: I.E.C.C.

>	Although no one wants an airport runway at the end of their street,
>it is bound to happen some place around Boston some day. The problem is that
>Logan Airport is one of the most inaccessable airports in the country, IMHO.

Airport traffic projections show that Logan will be adequate for many
decades.  None of the airlines at Logan have said that they want to serve
another airport.  In fact, they're in the process of building a hotel
(probably illegally) on an unused runway.

Also, about 1/3 of the flights in and out of Logan go to New York, a
number that is likely to drop considerably when they finish electrifying
the railroad so there can be Metroliners between Boston and New York like
there there are between New York and Washington.

People in the western suburbs should also note that there is a perfectly
good airport in Worcester with service to New York, Pittsburgh, and
Philadelphia where you can make connections all over the place.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl

PS:  I think that Logan is one of the most accessible airports in the
country -- it's only 15 minutes away.  Only suckers take the tunnel.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
Subject: Re: Boston tunnels (was Re: Ft. Devens Airport)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:20:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.163127.4313@linus.mitre.org> jclander@texas.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander) writes:
>
>If I remember correctly, the Sumner is the older of the two.  I think
>it dates back to the 1920's.  The Callahan was 1940's or '50's (I
>vaguely think Callahan himself was killed in WWII--there are
>plaques above the portals to both tunnels, I think on the Boston
>side.)
>

Ever wonder how they chose Lt. Callahan above all other fallen war heroes
to name a tunnel after?  Could it be that his father, the Robert Moses of
Massachusetts, was chairman of the authority that built the tunnel?  Ah,
Massachusetts!



-- 
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From: tom@uvmark.uucp (Tom Rauschenbach)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Ft. Devens Airport
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:16:38 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Yeah Right!

I have seen and read many arguments against a new airport at Ft. Devens.  Many
of these seem pretty convincing.  I have not however heard the other side.
Is anybody out there in favor of this new airport ?  If so, what are the 
arguments for it ?  It seems kind of lazy for me to have an opinion when I
make the opposition's case.
Thanks



-- 
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From: edwardp@cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Two type of baybank machines: was: Anyone else get this from BayBank?
Date: 27 Sep 92 01:25:14 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

In article <96871@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:

>
>   The most amusing sight I've seen in terms of ATM placement is in Kenmore
>Square...There's a BayBank with a row of ATM's in it, and right next door is
>a Store 24.  On the other side of the wall from the row of ATMs is a BayBank
>Xpress24 CASH.  Someone will fork out 75 cents extra just to avoid walking a
>few feet.  The sad thing is, it's true...
>

BayBank actually charges .75 for using a BayBank XPress24 CASH machine, as
opposed to the regular ATM??



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From: kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:33:06 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Sep29.134715.4087@westford.ccur.com> chuck@westford.ccur.com (Chuck Palmer) writes:
>
>	Although no one wants an airport runway at the end of their street,
>it is bound to happen some place around Boston some day. The problem is that
>Logan Airport is one of the most inaccessable airports in the country, IMHO.

Do you think the THT (Third Harbor Tunnel) will help?  It will run
directly from the Pike to Logan.  When it's finally done, shouldn't
make getting to Logan airport much more convenient.

By the way, I always fly out of Worcester.  It's easy to get to, never
crowded and I never have a problem booking something that connects to
where I'm going.  I'd rather sit in Newark for a half-hour waiting for
a connection than drive to Logan.  It ussually turns out to be less
time and much less aggravasion.


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From: tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt)
Subject: Re: Ben & Jerry's (was BayBanks)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:04:02 GMT

In article <lcjnnuINNq35@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
>In article <CKD.92Sep26193828@loiosh.eff.org>, ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>|> Of course that BayBank didn't used to exist, so the only "real"
>|> XPRESS-24 in the Square was the one in the BU Bookstore "Mall".
>
>Some of us miss the store that was there before BayBank--
>a Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream shop.   Now you have to go to
>Arlington Center for it.

There has been a Ben & Jerry's in Park Plaza for a few years now (behind 
Legal Seafoods).  I haven't been there in some time, but they're listed in
the 92-93 Yellow Pages:  20 Park Plz Bos ------------------------ 426-0890.
The only other store listed is the Arlington one.

Tony Matt   tonym@world.std.com