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From: Allison.Cozzi@f3216.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Allison Cozzi)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Wheelchair
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:38:28 GMT
Reply-To: Allison.Cozzi@f3216.n161.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/3216 - Computer Communicat, Concord Ca
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference

Index Number: 23937

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

-> LC>Well, since there weren't too many people in the store, I decided
-> LC>I'd go ahead, swallow my pride, and ride around in the wheelchair
-> LC>had there (with the basket on the front for a few groceries).  The
->
->       Wow. The grocery store *had* a w/c available?! I'm impressed!
->       What was the chain's name?

     I am in the San Francisco Bay Area and the Safeway nearest me has a
motorized cart with a basket for those who would do better with it than
without it. I still haven't used it but would have no problem using it
if I couldn't do without it. There is only one and I always have figured
that someone else might *need* it when, for me, it would be just more
comfortable to use it. So thumbs up to Safeway!
     While I'm on the subject, thumbs down to Target Stores for the
thoughtless placement of the h/c parking spots. At the Target Store most
convenient for me, they have two handicapped parking spots but they have
placed them so far away from the store that it is nearly impossible for
me on a bad day to get to the store. I asked the manager why they chose
the spaces they did for the handicapped spots since there was nothing
different about them (like curb cuts or extra wide spaces) and he said
that he didn't know and that I was the first person to complain. He as
much as insinuated that it couldn't be much of a problem if noone had
ever complained before. I was a little miffed that he dismissed my
suggestions out of hand. I offerred another explanation for him not
being told before: the other disabled customers couldn't get into the
store or gave up on the idea of getting into the store because of the
placement of the spots.  I got nowhere with him so I sent a letter to
the head office and remionded them that disabled people not only have
rights; they also have money to spend and *this* disabled person would
take my shopping dollar elsewhere as long as they made it so difficult
to get into their store. I never got a response.
                                                      Allison

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From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: list
Date: 11 Aug 92 20:28:23 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23679

I have been having a problem when the bios switch
is on with list in that for the first screen of
output my artic windows stay in tact.  I have a window
set so that only the file is actively supposed to be
read.  However after the first screen of output list breaks my windows
and starts speaking information on the screen that I windowed for
silence.  I have one of the early versions of
artic business vision and think when upgrade time
comes I'll be a refugee from artic.  This strange behavior happened
with the first version of list that was able to
write to bios.  Does anyone know has this
problem been fixed or do I have some of my settings wrong in artic or
am I using the wrong synthesizer package altogether?

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
From: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: GUIDE DOG BLUES
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:16:27 GMT
Reply-To: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2610/12 - Post Road Inn, Greensburg PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23834

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Kris,

Thanks for the positive info on Triple A, and may I suggest calling
the National NFB people in Baltimore?  Perhaps they will have some
constructive suggestions.  I suggest, if I may, that you do not
tell them about your experience with your local chapter until you
near the end of your conversation. Please get back to us with any
results, and, I'm sorry that your trip has been tarnished, not
beyond repair, I hope.

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From: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Keil)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: shhh messages
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:31:23 GMT
Reply-To: Karen.Keil@p0.f809.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/809.0 - Fantasy Mountain, Golden CO
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23906

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

The SHHH convention report is now ready.  They are coming as 13
posts.

I hope you found them interesting (at least some of it).  I wrote
more than planned!

Now hold on to your hats!  Here they come!  Anything omitted that
should have been said, please post that information.  Let us know
what you know!

If you have any questions or comments about anything in the posts,
please let me know.

Auf wiedersehen,

Karen
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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Nls And nfb
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:19:35 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23849

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to Bill Koppelmann <17 Jul 92 21:20> Carol Ashland wrote:

 CA> As far as
 CA> I am concerned, they do a terrible job.  Mostly just junk
 CA> that they braille and record.

Hi, Carol.

Yeah, NLS produces too many romances and fiction best-sellers and not
enough nonfiction such as history, etc.  But, try as I might, I can't
convince NLS personnel to dump the romances! <grin>

Cheers!

Mike
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Steve.Richards@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Richards)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Braille N Speak Compl
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:25:12 GMT
Reply-To: Steve.Richards@f101.n277.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:277/101 - House Of Pancakes, Morgantown WV
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23875

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message 08-07-92 (17:55) From: KEITH BUCHER To: CHUCK HALLENBECK
KB>Chuck, I think, what you're getting is 20 characters per second on
KB>each side of the page, thus 40 CPI which include both sides of the
KB>page.  Nearly like two rB-20s.

Hi Keith, I included a snippet there so you'd know the gist of the
previous message.  Like you, I have great interest in the Juliet, and I
also agree that going by Enabling Technology's track record in braille
embossers the Juliet ought to be a pretty reliable machine.  However, I
can't help wondering about a few things.  The RB20, which has three
solenoids as opposed to the RB40's nine also has about one-third the
MTBF of the RB40 for its emboss head.  With four solenoids per side, how
will the Juliet compare in its emboss head MTBF?  And, of course, there
are two heads to be replaced.  I assume that the four per side are for
the tighter graphics you mentioned, otherwise why not incorporate the
Romeo's triad design?  There I'm not finding fault, just trying to
account for the different configuration.  Indeed I'm not finding fault
anywhere, just wondering about some things.  For instance, I surely do
wonder how they managed more or less the same price for the Juliet as
for the Romeo RB40, and whether they had to scrimp and cut corners to do
that.  How does the quality of the internal parts for the Juliet compare
to the RB40's?  I wonder, too, what will become of the RB40; can it hope
to compete at its current price, not being interpoint?  Naturally
Enabling has no incentive for competition between two of its own
products, so will the RB40 eventually be dropped?  If that occurs, will
we have gained something in the existence of the Juliet, or will we have
lost something in the demise of a proven braille embosser?
Steve R.

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From: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Spanish
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:20:30 GMT
Reply-To: Mike.Freeman@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/126 - Lawson & Reay, Vancouver WA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23853

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, Bill!

You asked about Spanish contracted Braille.  Iused to know it reasonably
well.  You asked whether the whole-word contractions in English were the
same as those in Spanish.  In a word, no.  Each language has its own
whole-word, part-word and sign contractions.  I used to read French
contracted Braille and also German contracted Braille (can still read
the latter fairly well).  Each has its own contractions, though a very
few are common with those of Standard English Braille.

In other words, asside from the alphabet, which is roughly the same, one
must learn Braille for each language as a separate code, as it were.

Cheers!

Mike
... ** "O Lord, help me to be pure, but not yet." -- St. Augustine **
___ CRR QWK 1.40

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From: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Stew Bowden)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: braille and spelling
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:01:32 GMT
Reply-To: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23722

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Nancy: well, your exieriences from the third grade on cause me
some concern. I can't help wondering, and please, I'm not trying to
get personal here, but do you feel your Braille skills are
adequate, or do you believe that Braille, as far as you are
concerned is no longer needed? I guess for me, who spent most of
his life educating blind kids in residential schools, that is the
most frightening part of mainstreaming. Kids today do not have the
necessary Braille skills. Anyway thanks for the thoughts, and
obviously, when it came to teaching speling, teachers were rather
inconsistent. Stew

... I can resist everything except temptation.
=== Via Silver Xpress V3.00

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From: Chuck.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Chuck Hallenbeck)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille N Speak Compl
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:12:30 GMT
Reply-To: Chuck.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23795

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi, Willy.
I agree completely that the concept of a BNS portable note-taker was a
brilliant innovation, and is not the same as a notebook PC. However,
once the Blazie people scored with the original BNS they appear to have
lost the idea and are turning the thing into a substitute for a PC.
Keith suggested subtracting the cost of a floppy from the price of a
notebook to make them comparable, but I suggest adding the Blazie price
of a floppy, which I think is about $500. That means we are talking
$1800 for a BNS computer, with no hard disk. I went first class and
added a LiteTalk to our notebook, and used a copy of my existing screen
reader. I still come out $300 ahead with a superior device. While it is
not as convenient to carry around, you wouldn't find the BNS all that
convenient either if you had to take the disk drive with you. I think
Blazie should have improved the original note-taker concept instead of
changing it into a pseudo-computer. Nobody needs 640K on a note-taker,
and nobody needs to pay $895 either. Blind people are fortunate that
they can cause public funds to be spent for their own benefit, in many
cases, and the 3rd party sponsors, agencies and employers, generally
have no basis for making judgments other than the ads and the glitz. I
own and use a BNS; there are instances where there is no reasonable
substitute. But it ain't no computer, and the 640K with or without a
disk drive ain't no bargain, neither. ... Chuck.

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From: Cindy.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Cindy Hallenbeck)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: GUIDE DOG BLUES
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:12:04 GMT
Reply-To: Cindy.Hallenbeck@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23792

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi,

I think your story would deserve some militancy.  I was refused service
in a Chinese restaurant (not all that uncommon), and I called to explain
that they must let me in.  They seem to understand now, but I haven't
been back to make sure.  I don't much want to go alone.

Then on my way to Charlotte, we stayed in a hotel in Illinois.  Though
they did not refuse me occupancy, when they discovered the dog, they
required me to move to a room which had old carpet and spread in case
the dog did any damage.  They should probably concern themselves with
such matters more when certain patrons come in after they've been out
doing some serious partying.

Cindy Hallenbeck

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From: Bill.Mcgarry@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Bill Mcgarry)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Slimware Window Bridge
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:05:15 GMT
Reply-To: Bill.Mcgarry@p0.f420.n141.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:141/420.0 - The Handicap News, Shelton CT
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23746

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi David,

I talked to Synthavoice about a month ago to get some of their
demos to have on the BBS here.  When I asked about a demo of
the Window Bridge, I was told that there was no need for a demo
since blind people do not have Windows so why have a demo?

Great logic, huh?

Bill

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From: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Windows access maybe
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:08:17 GMT
Reply-To: David.Tanner@f168.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/168 - Braille Bank BBS, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23767

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 >DT> There is just too much access software out there that really
 >DT> doesn't come up to what it is advertised to be by the vendors.
 >DT> If you don't believe it then look at the "new" speech software
 >dT> for the Braille 'N Speak that locks up as soon as you attempt to
 >DT> run an application software with it.  It appears to only work
 >DT> when you are doinng DOS commands. If it won't DT> work with a
 >DT> software as simple as Ralph or Readit then it has to be pretty
 >bad software.
 >
 >Maybe Blazie Engineering isn't quite all it's cracked up to be.
 >Keith Bucher
 >

No, I wouldn't agree with that.  I simply think that the PC Master
software should not have been released until it was ready.  I know
I have been a bit tough on IBM and their Screen Reader, but at
least I am told by those who saw it at the conventions that the
product is very impressive.  On the other hand they are obviously
holding up it's release to make sure most of the bugs are out.

I got a copy of PC Master from Blazie, the only difference between
the copy I got and a registered copy being the absence of the
registered user file, and it worked great as long as I was doing MS
DOS commands; but when I tried to read the PC Master documentation
using Ralph or Readit either one, the program froze and I had to
reboot.  Was I out of memory? No, there was about 520K free before
attempting to run the reader software.

        D. T.

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From: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: NFBNET Censorship?
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:14:58 GMT
Reply-To: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23827

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

NFB NET on its opening screen clearly states that it is the "official
BBS voice of the NFB."  Your discussion of TV stations does not apply.
TV stations are licensed by the Federal Communications Commission to
"serve the public interest, convenience, and necessity."  They have a
legal obligation to air both sides of a controversial issue because
they are using the airwaves which are public.

Newspapers have no such obligation.  I am not familiar with the Supreme
Court ruling to which you refeer.

David Andrews

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From: John.Sanfilippo@p0.f102.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (John Sanfilippo)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Questions
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:10:10 GMT
Reply-To: John.Sanfilippo@p0.f102.n2603.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/102.0 - The Event Horizon, Bay Ridge NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23807

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Frank,

A blind lawyer, Steve Mendelson (spelled wrong) wrote a book
some time ago called "Financing Adaptive Technologies ...".
Sorry, no further info.

Hope this helps.

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From: daemon@bnr.co.uk
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: a test
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:58:45 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Limited

testing . . .

+-----------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
|   Alec McKenzie - arm@bnr.co.uk   |   BNR Europe Limited, London Road,  |
|       Phone +44 279 402159        |   Harlow, Essex, England CM17 9NA   |
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Newsgroups: misc.test
From: scornelius@ips.iacd.honeywell.com (Steve Cornelius)
Subject: test
Organization: Honeywell Industrial Automation, Phoenix, AZ
Distribution: misc.test
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:52:58

another nntp test
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Steve Cornelius                     | If you *don't* like airplane noise,
Phoenix, AZ, USA                    | then why in the #*!! did you buy a
scornelius@ips.iacd.honeywell.com   | house next to an airport !!

Disclaimer: Any opinions are mine, Honeywell might have other ideas...
Newsgroups: misc.test
From: John Austin <jea1@Cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Once more, with text
Nntp-Posting-User: jea1@cornell.edu
X-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21: 47:06 GMT
Organization: BTI
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d3
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:40:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.170915.19832@mail.cornell.edu> John Austin,
jea1@Cornell.edu writes:
>What are tests for, anyway????
Well, perhaps to help figure out what's going on.  I make my first
two posts
ever, and then traffic dies on misc.test and t.b.  Did I break it?


.sig under construction...(anyone know a good ascii art generator?)

John Austin (jea1@cornell.edu)
Grafix 'R Us
Boyce Thompson Institute for Plant Research
From: levine@fssun09.dev.oclc.org (Eugene T. Levine)
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: test - someone please respond
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:39:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.

this is a test to see if we are getting out to the world (na that is)
thanks
-gene levine
levine@oclc.org

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Newsgroups: misc.test
From: jremer@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeremy Remer)
Subject: Test 
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 04:09:31 GMT

Testing 1-2-3

*THIS IS ONLY A TEST*

(Had it been a real emergency...I would of pulled out the cord)  :-)


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From: hagedorn@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Hagedorn)
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: test post
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:22:28 GMT
Reply-To: hagedorn@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Hagedorn)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

THis is a test
jgh
From: gary@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Gary Spiers)
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: Re: JEV's Experiment #1
Keywords: TEST
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:02:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

Please ignore again
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gary@comp.lancs.ac.uk
Computing Department, Lancaster University, UK
From: swb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Steve Buffum)
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: Blast!
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:44:50 GMT
Organization: Just Some Guy
Originator: swb@mickey.cc.utexas.edu


	I will get something out if I have to shove the bytes through with
a data fork.

	Anyone know any magic words?

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From: milesna@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Neil Miles)
Newsgroups: misc.test
Subject: another test
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:07:33 GMT
Organization: Aston University

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Newsgroups: misc.test
From: cbp@gmh.edu (Christopher Preston)
Subject: a test
Organization: Grady Memorial Hospital
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:38:49 GMT


foo

cbp
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Newsgroups: misc.test
From: pjm@cshl.org (Pat Monardo)
Subject: phage
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:55:50 GMT

ignore
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Xref: sparky misc.test:9858 soc.culture.french:5956
From: cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula)
Newsgroups: misc.test,soc.culture.french
Subject: Test: Salut tout le monde
Keywords: test
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:31:26 GMT
Reply-To: cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula)
Followup-To: soc.culture.french
Organization: GSO/URI

In article <532@tls-cs.cert.fr> sylvain@tls-cs.cert.fr (Sylvain Chretien) writes:
>	tout a fait d'accord avec sylvain, Dublin c'est mieux qu'Hawai, 
>mais n'importe comment rien ne vaut Toulouse. On a les bieres, la plage pas loin 
>et le Pont-Neuf, je tiens a le rappeler a tous les joueurs. 
>
>Sylvain Chretien			e-mail: sylvain@tls-cs.cert.fr

Mais vous me faites tous marrer, rien ne vaut la baie de Narragansett (avec
l'ile de Newport au milieu). Et puis en plus, Delpine est a moins de deux heures
d'ici.

Jean-Francois
         '
PS: Dan how about fixing relaynews?