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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bit by bit
Keywords: nn
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:33:23 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.

>Somebody better drag out the old Net Rules And Code Of Behaviour
>because some of these rookies, sadly, are just "not follow".
>
>Here are just a few of the most important rules and standards.  They
>may seem strange at first, but once you get used to them you will enjoy
>RSBP all the more:
>
>1. Danny Ainge bit Sonny Rollins.
>2. Michael Jordon is Gad.
>3. BLAZERZ R00LZ!!!!
>4. The Celtics get all the calls from the officials.
>5. The Woofing Theorem:  ``The number of playoff games a team wins is
>   inversely proportional to the number of exclamation points and upper-
>   case words in articles posted by the team's fans.''  [J. Oliver, ca. 89]

Geez guys, you also forgot the TRUE rule #1,  Pippen pushed Rodman.

The latest addition to 'NRACOB' is...Rex Chapman plays for Charlotte.

And aRizOna is a bunch of stiffs...oops, that's for r.s.bb.college ;^)

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From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: USA v Angola
Date: 27 Jul 1992 07:44:01 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Jul27.053008.18505@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> skprimus@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Siu Kai Ho) writes:
|    I had my first look at the Dream Team last night and... man...
|2. I don't know if Barkley should be in the DT now.  He elbowed someone 
|after he made a layup.  Totally unnecessary.  (and it's only a
|play-around Olympic game too)

Oh, please!  Barkley barely hit the guy!  Charles was smiling the whole time
and obviously elbowed the guy as a sort of joke.  Kind of like telling him that
he should of at least fouled Barkley hard instead of giving him the easy 
break away dunk.  Besides, we can't take Sir Charles of the squad until he
makes that off the backboard dunk!

Actually, I found it refreshing to hear Barkley say "They are in trouble"
after listening to Jordan and Malone trying to be diplomatic.

One more thing, the stupidest coaching move in the game had to be when the
Angola coach made comments about how NBA players don't play defense!
Why not say that they don't know how to foul hard next time...

Rick

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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: Re: Nitpicking
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:19:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.042358.28411@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>Well, I didn't mention anything on "calls the ref give", this phrase was his. 
>Why didn't he associate my belief (the 2 3-ptrs) on calls KC Jones gave? 
>
  i thought Boston Bias was about the possibility of bias officiating...:-)
  (and had nothing to do with Len Bias)

>>so the point of argument only changes when it suits Ed.  Nice.
>Yeah? like your wimp out from "probably 50% more" to only "10% more".
                                ^^^^^^^^
>I wonder how one's opinion can change 5-fold in a few days without even 
>examining the tapes or the stat books.  Hmmm.... all numbers must be 
>speculations just to suit the argument [...].

all of these numbers are speculations, yes.  yours, too.
well, here is what i said:

>could it be that because the celtics have been at the top so many times in the
>past that they've "earned" this preferential treatment that makes you choose
>to pull out a 3-1 ratio???  i will say that the celtics get more than their
>share of mystery calls, but 3-1?  no.  2-1?  aah, still no.  3-2?
>  possibly.....
>more than the lakers?  more than jordan?  where do you place them?

  possibly != probably where i come from, ed.  it is true that my "possibly"
  allows for 50% possibly...but then i did come in later with the Survey
  Form - which you still have not filled out and returned.  (how can you
  make a case for your side if you dont vote?)  the Survey Form should have
  a best estimate, and a best estimate shouldnt be the possible fringe area.
  it should be in the center of the bell-shaped curve of possibilies.  hey,
  its possible that the Celtics get fewer mystery calls than their opponents,
  but i dont think it likely.

>>...[]...First Mention of Cut & Paste.  In it I made no accusation of
>>anyone else cutting & pasting.  But, boy, did I get a MILE-LONG DINGER out
>>of that "innocent" little snip.  :-)  :-)  :-)  (one for each of us)
>Your cut & paste accusation may be innocent, but Meeks' wasn't.
>
   naw, in the end, i dont think my little snip will be so innocent...:-)

>                                          Edward Lor

- nate
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From: aco@fraser.sfu.ca (Alvin Milton Co)
Subject: Re: Alternate Dream Team
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:45:06 GMT

fzchen@othello.ucdavis.edu writes:

>I was watching the olympics and thinking about Chuck Daly's remark
>about how this team would be neat if they had some competition. 
>Then I started thinking about an alternate dream team that could 
>compete and beat this team.  Here is my team:

>Isiah Thomas - G
>Joe Dumars - G
>Danny Manning - F
>Dominque Wilkins - F
>Hakeem Olajuwan - C
>Tim Hardaway - G
>Reggie Lewis - G
>James Worthy - F
>Larry Johnson -F
>Brad Daugherty -C
>Shaquille O'Nead -C (gotta have one college player)
>Sean Elliot -f

>Alternates:
>Mark Price
>Sean Kemp
>Ron Harper
>Mitch Richmond
>Dennis Rodman

>I think that team could beat the Dream Team.  It may be nice to have
>Dennis Rodman for defensive purposes, over Sean Elliot.  Mark Price
>probably should have a spot.  Some people might question Manning, but
>if you watched the guy play (saw him a lot in So Cal on TV) you'd see
>he is the next star in the league.  The can shoot, pass, and rebound and
>he's very smart and makes players around him better.  It was hard
>finding good power forwards after Barkley and Malone.  Maybe Kevin
>McHale could get a spot (sort of the Magic, Bird veteran factor).


$>Any comments?  

Here we go again!
Hakeem is from Nigeria!

Boris 
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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Bullchit! Re: POGO-stick RETIRES (yes,aint kidding)
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:50:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.220600.9473@rice.edu>
retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter) writes:
 
>In article <1682DE2D5.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>>tswilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Sly Fox) writes:
>>>Dennis Rodman, the Detriot Pistons' pogo stick will retire soon to concerate
>>>on his business in Houston. He said he is tired of NBA and have no motivate
>>>to play anymore.
>>
>>Yeah, and Jordan is out with a broken jaw, and the Dream Team lost a game.
>>
>>I notice you didn't give a source either, probably becuz "thin air"
>>doesn't sound too convincing.
>>
>>Why bother when Detroiters like myself can expose you in an instant?
>>
>>If there's any further doubt in anyone's mind, I'm listening to local
>>sports as I write this. There's no mention of this stupid rumor.
>
>
>You'd better find a better source for your "local sports", Eric, because the
>so-called rumor has been reported in a number of stories that went out over
>the AP wire today.  I've read two or three variants of a story that quotes
>Rodman as saying that he's lost interest in basketball, and is seriously
>considering retiring and concentrating on his excavation business here in
>Houston.  I generally consider the AP news service to be a pretty reliable
>source.
 
The story above is correct only in that Rodman is tired and unmotivated.
So what? We've known that he doesn't want to play ever since Daly left.
 
He has not retired.
His business is in Frisco, not Huston.
 
There's nothing wrong with my sources, and I wish the original poster had
gotten the story basically right like you did.
 
Heaven help me if I was to post innaccurate stats about about Jordan or your
favorite player, and then back them up with inflammatory comments.
 
--Eric
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From: elvis@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Chris Ham)
Subject: Nightmare team...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 00:54:44 GMT

I didn't get to read all of the nightmare team postings but I never saw
such players as Mark Eaton and Kevin Duckworth, but a champion such as
Manute Bol makes the team?!?

Was that a misprint?

At least Bol doesn't average 48 fouls per 48 mins like some Boston
player I could mention...


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From: gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Olympic jerk
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:29:47 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <168333039.O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Doug Miller) writes:
>
> I guess Sir Charles never spat on your daughters. The Sir speaking with

Gee, I didn't realize charles was spitting on women and young girls
every chance he gets.  Lets not blow one accident out of proportion.

>candor and insight, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, intersesting. I do not care if
>Charlie cares about what I think, we aren't on speaking terms. I am

That's by his choice I'm sure.

>mearly stating my opinion, This is America ya know. I'm sure if Saddam
>saw how Barkley can bully people half his size around he'll think twice
>at trying to push us around.

Like he thought twice about the continental US, which is at least ten
times larger than Iraq.

>In all seriousness, Sir Chuckie is not the
>way to get other countries to think we mean business and we won't get

Ohhh.  Is that what he is there for.

>pushed around, Desert Storm did that. Only crazy leaders won't take the hint.

You mean like the Europeans who screw us over a lot more than the
Japanese?????

>I also was not talking about tennis, I was talking about basketball.I realize

In other words, you wanted to pick on Charles.  If you are going to
talk about atletes with bad behavior in front of an international crowd
lets not discriminate.  As the Japanese said, American are a bunch of
whiny cry babies (John McEnroe).

>there is bad sportsmanship in all sports. If people think Charlie's behavior
>is normal, our country is in more moral decay than what I previously thought.
>He should care how he acts. He should do it for himself, his teammates, and
>his country. Too many people just don't give a damn at how they are perceived.

You mean like the volleyball team captain who went on the air and
said the Japanese(?) have never beaten us, The only way the could
do it was to get together with a committee.
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From: len@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (leonard.g.carr)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: 92-93 Day-by-Day Schedule
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:40:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul23.152326.7263@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>
>can you mail it to nbastats-admin@athena.mit.edu?  we will be needing to
>update the nba.c program for the upcoming season.  (someone has already
>started, but may not be part of nbastats-admin.
>
>thanks!
>
>- nate

Should I assume from your message that you've decided to take over ownership of
my "nba.c" program?  If so , it would have been nice to know about it because I
also have plans to update the program as well with some feature updates!  Please
contact me so that we can cordinaed my feature updates.

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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Help ME Please!!!!!!!!!!!\
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:16:37 GMT

rs3596@sarah.albany.edu (Robert B. Scott) writes:
>	Micheal Jordan [...]
>baseball  than basketball.  thought about playing some minor league 
>baseball with a team in Charlotte? but I don't know what happened to this idea.

Same thing that happened to Ross Perot's idea of running for president.


--Gidi

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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re: Sixers Camp News?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:08:29 GMT

>In article 7KK@news.cso.uiuc.edu, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>
>>	I think that the Sixers will go with a 3-guard offense next season,
>>	a-la the Pistons did the last couple of seasons.  They'll have the
>>	Dawkins/Hawkins starting backcourt -- I think Hornacek could be
>>	plenty dangerous coming off the bench as a gunner and backup for
>>	Dawkins.  Either way, all 3 will get 30+ minutes playing time.
>>	Dawkins will start because he has the quickness and the penetrating
>>	ability -- more than Hornacek.  Plus, it would seem that Hornacek
>>	would take to the bench easier than Dawkins -- being that Dawkins
>>	has been in the starting lineup all his life (since high school),
>>	while hornacek started out as a walk-on at Iowa State.  Going to the
>>	bench would hurt Johnny's ego and confidence.

You've got to realize that Hornacek is by far the most valuable of the bunch.
He's the best scorer, passer, rebounder and shooter.  It's tough not to see
him getting the most playing time.  Dawkins hasn't proven himself to be
very good yet.  He's not even back to pre-injury form where he was simply
a good (not great) point guard.

If Dawkins has an ego problem going to the bench...how about Hornacek?
All-star team, elite stats in everything...

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From: mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok)
Subject: WORTHY/STARKS Trade?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:35:30 GMT

WFAN in new york, reported that the Knicks and the Lakers are working
on a James Worthy/John Starks trade..  any thoughts?
sounds like an interesting trade, one that could make the knicks the
best team in the NBA next year.
  
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: RESULTS: Basketball (Day 2... incomplete)
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:45:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.192932.17918@brtph560.bnr.ca> markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.133635.5818@iscsvax.uni.edu> baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>In article <4127@news.duke.edu>, jafarr@north4.acpub.duke.edu (Jeff) writes:
>>> Emil Thomas Chuck metioned that Petrovic was held scoreless in the 
>>> second half, and that he was guarded by Jordan.  Actually, he was
>>> guarded by a combination of Jordan and Pippen, who probably "wanted to send
>>> a message" to their potential new teammate, as Marv put it.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> Duke University
>>> "It's gonna be sweet to threepeat.  Just gotta make it through football season."
>>
>>If 20 people can respond that Rex Chapman is no longer a Hornet, then I think
>>we should get at least three times that to respond to a Dookie.  Kukoc is the
>>possible Chicago Bull not Drazen Petrovich (Nets).
>>
>>Let the corrections begin!
>>
>>BBB
>
>Rex Chapman is a Charlotte Hornet.  They drafted him 9th in 1988 and I 
>remember seeing him play last year.
>
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Sorry for this one guys.  I changed my .signature file to try and trick 
the rookies into arguing with me, but I moved the .sig back to soon (guess
I must be the rookie).

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Subject: continued
From: <YUKQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 20:38:16 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

..........Without them, DT kind of loses coolness and spice.
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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re: Sixers Camp News?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:02:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.141359.17656@crd.ge.com> hanley@fyi.crd.ge.com (Christopher W Hanley) writes:
>Anyone have any news about the Sixers rookie camp?
>Is that 7'0 guy from U-Conn going to show up?
>How are W'Spoon's negotiations shaping up?
>I think if we could get the top lottery pick and
>Chris Webber comes out, we could be a force again!
>
>Just think about Spoon at SF and Webber at PF with
>Jonny and Hersey at guards and Horny coming off the
>bench scoring 15ppg+!
>
>Chris Hanley

If wishes were trees.  How does an NBA team go about securing a top lottery
pick anyway?  Horny and Hersey have to start BTW...I can't see anything
else happening.
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cut & Paste
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:25:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Jul21.053956.11432@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.143701.72188@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>
>>In 3, we have the middle statement which says the things he considers bogus
>>are nothing more than home jobs that happen everywhere.  This is probably the
>>statement he likes to reference the most as "proof"..  However, in almost 
>>every reference since the 1st, he leaves out the 1st and 3rd sentence, and
>>states that I thus state that the Bird 3ptr was bogus... Seems to me like the
>>general equation (since Ed likes equations) are 
>>a = Birds 3 ptr incident and the others he lists.
>>b = things Ed Lor considers bogus
>>c = home jobs that happen everywhere.
>>
>>In Ed Lor's mind, (b) == d, e, f, g... as well as (a), where (d), (e), (f), and
>>(g) are other incidents Ed considers as bogus (Trent Tucker, etc..)
>(d), (e), (f) ... undefined.

Not really.. You mentioned at least 7 things.  They make up the (d), (e), (f)
variables.  They are the individual incidences you consider bogus.
>
>In final analysis, you don't even know how to do a proof. Give us a break,
>don't show your 1st grade math on the net...

Figured it fit in with yours...
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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Olympic jerk
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:00:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.000624.5585@ichips.intel.com> harryk@omews58.intel.com (Harry Koehnemann) writes:

>In article <jjonsson.39@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:
>>In article <19732@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>>
>>> He's been the best damn player out there - face it the NBA defines basketball
>>>and Charles is a big part of the NBA - if other countries don't like it then
>>>too bad - that's the way it goes - if they want to compete with the NBA then
>>>they should learn to play like the NBA and that includes physical and verbal
>>>taunts.

>Ah, spoken like a true American.  Let's go to Spain and eat at McDonalds.
>Actually, the US got tired of all the talk and decided to send their best.
>It was *our* decision to play with *them*, not the other way around - notice
>whose rules we're playing by and how big that lane got all of a sudden.
>And when your a guest, you act like one.

>>The only reason Charles is getting more points than Karl Malone is that 
>>Stockton isn't on the floor. I guarantee when those two complimentary 
>>players step on the floor, Karl will outshine Sir Charlie. 

>So you're saying Karl can't create on his own?  And Charles Can?  Then
>how do you know Charles won't thrive when Stockton is on the floor as well?

What I'm saying is, that no one is passing Karl the ball. He's awfully 
good at putting it in the hole when he has it. Someone in another thread, I 
think, mentioned that we out west don't get to see Barkley play a lot, 
well, the same can be said of the people back east not getting to see the 
Mailman much. I guess they'll be surprised when The Jazz kick Phoenix' a** 
all over the western conference next year. Oh, and Stockton could make *any* 
player better, even Barkley.

>>P.S. Phoenix is just waiting to fall apart with that irritant on their 
team.

>We'll see...

Yes, we will.
Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
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From: cb338@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael A. Woo-Ming)
Subject: Re: KINGS news, KINGS news......
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 01:54:12 GMT


Once again, the Kings show their ineptness in choosing talent.

[C[C[C


alent.  Because
Sacramento is my hometown, I have been an ardent but despairing supporter
(Although I will readily admit to being a Warriors fan too).  Don't
forget these other boners: Ellison for Hansen, Leckner, and a pick (I
think Causwell), Ainge for Byron Irvin and a pick (Chilcutt).  I could
go on and on, but the release of Schnitzius is just another indication of
past bad deals.

Hopefullly that is the past.  With new ownership and the pick of Walt 
Williams, I feel this is the best lineup we've had in years:  Williams,
Richmond, Causwell, Tisdale, Simmons (although I still don't think the
Wizard can play point.)  Heck, when the most exciting dayof the year
for your organization is lottery day, making the 8th and final spot
for the playoffs is like a Godsend.

P.S. Oh by the way, Greg Kite DID play for the Kings.   :(
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