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From: jaa@philabs.philips.com (Joseph M. Amato)
Subject: Las Vegas Question
Originator: jaa@frank
Reply-To: jaa@philabs.philips.com (Joseph M. Amato)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:27:41 GMT


Do the casinoes in Vegas accept travelers checks at the tables?
Or does one have to go to the cashier or change window first?

does it vary from casino to casino?

thanks,

Joe Amato
-- 
 jaa@philabs.philips.com | Some go up,  Some go down. | First things First --
                         | Some go thirsty,           |  but not neccessarily
    My company's views   | Some just drown.           |  in that order.
        may differ       |                 -Marillion |            -"Dr. Who"
From: spx2rbr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Rhun Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Fruit Machines
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:11:07 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway


    Is there anyone out there who is a Fruit machine designer, or knows
someone who is?   I am very interested in the Psychology involved when
designing the circuits for these machines, but finding literature on the
subject is very difficult. 

   I would be very grateful for any reply to this message.

  Thanks

  Rhun.
From: jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (james webb)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS *AGAINST* gambling
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:43:39 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.unm.edu


	What the hell is this shit? No one wants to hear you religous babble.
	Besides, didn't see god playing poker in Oh God! III?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
James Webb						jawebb@hydra.unm.edu

Go Cowboys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go Dolphins!!!!!!!!

Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: rowzej@rs6218.ecs.rpi.edu (John Edward Rowzee)
Subject: Craps [on IL riverboats]: 2x odds?
Followup-To: rowzej@rpi.edu
Summary: "No matter where you go, there you are..."
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:46:10 GMT

I'd appreciate it if anyone knows of riverboats in Central/Northern IL
that offer double odds craps.  I know it's a longshot, but thot I'd ask.

Unfortunately, the Empress River Casino [Joliet] only offered 1x odds,
and I don't have info on other boats in the Quad Cities or Peoria area.
I don't expect the situation in Chicago to improve, at least until 
Harrah's finishes building their boats down the road [also in Joliet]
later this year.  Right now Empress seems to know they have the only
game in town.

Thanx in advance,

-john.
-- 
----->                         "It will be a great day when our schools
John Edward Rowzee              have enough money to function properly,
rowzej@rpi.edu                  and the Army is forced to have a bake
                                sale to buy a bomber."
From: rueb@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Christopher J. Rueb)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: FAST CASH!!!
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


   Now setting the line at 10 1/2 as the number of people who inform
    the rest of us that this is a stupid illegal scam.
From: alan@ahmcs.mq.com (Alan Mintz)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Should I return the money back?
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:45:34 GMT
Organization: Micro-Quick Systems, Inc.

In <1k1hneINNrqt@fido.asd.sgi.com> leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones) writes:

>One of the cashiers at Garden City here in San Jose recently gave me 
>$100 too much.  I figured it out about 20 ft. away from the cage.  When 
>I went back and pointed out her mistake, we went through the identical
>procedure (they ran and checked it on the tape).  Again, I got profuse thanks
>from both the cashier (she asked me to take the contents of her tip
>basket which I of course declined)
>and the cage manager.  Unfortunately,
>they didn't offer me a free meal at Garden City (man, that prime rib woulda
>been *good*).

At Commerce, meals are comped for 20-40 and up
($14/hr collection - 1/day, 4 hours loosely enforced). Sounds like you
just "gave" them several hours of "top" collection (maybe less from what I've
heard of the bay area's rake ). Cheap skates :-(

Brings up another point, though. I've never actually seen a "tip basket"
at a cashier's window. At Morongo (about 20 tables - near Palm Springs),
though, the cashiers have been known to "check hustle". Does anyone tip
cashiers (non-LV poker or LV)? Am I the only stiff?
---
< Alan H. Mintz  | alan@ahmcs.mq.com | ...!uunet!ahmcs!alan >
From: freedman@cs.colostate.edu (keith freedman)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Should I return the money back?
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:19:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Jan25.221933.63073
Reply-To: freedman@cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University -=- Computer Science Department

In article 11617@ultb.isc.rit.edu, jsvrc@rc.rit.edu (J A Stephen Viggiano) writes:
>[beginning of thread deleted]
>In article <Jan23.221319.29278@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> freedman@cs.colostate.edu writes:
>
>>[legal stuff deleted]
>
>I think most everybody is as interested in the moral obligation as in the
>legal . . . . Bravo to the original poster for doing the right thing!

Isn't the idea of going to a casino to take their money?  :)
Certainly, they're not playing fair, otherwise they'd not enhance the rules
to ALWAYS give them an advantage. :)

---
Keith Freedman
Colorado State University
Department of Computer Science
Systems Administration
From: paul.westley@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Westley) 
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: 100% SURE THING
Date: 15 Jan 93 01:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: paul.westley@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Westley) 

I hope this isn't a duplicate message, I got kicked off yesterday before
I could save...

I just got back from Vegas and had an interesting chat with a very nice
dealer at the Stardust.  She said there has been quite a bit of crime
along the strip recently, including a shooting in the car park at Vegas
World - she said the area around there is quite dangerous.

She also told me to avoid the multi-action blackjack - you bet your hand
3 times (minimum $10 each), then get your cards - you'd better not bust
'cos the dealer then deals 3 sets of cards, one set at a time, and
compares it to your hand.  (If you busted, you just lost all 3 hands).
This game seems terrible from many angles, not the least of which is you
might hit 15 against a 9 showing, but the dealers other 2 hands could
have 6 showing, in fact I'm not even sure you get to see the first
dealer hand.

Now for the 100% sure thing.  My wife and I got coupon books at the
Sands.  There were 3 7$ for $5 coupons in each book, and all could be
played in one day.  So we sat down at the nearest roulette table, my
wife bet 5$ and a coupon on red, I bet 5$ and a coupon on black, AND I
ALSO BET $1 on ZERO and $1 on DOUBLE-ZERO.  The worst that can happen is
you lose the coupons!!!  Lo and behold, first spin, ZERO came up and we
had just made $24.   (35 to 1 = $35, minus the $1 on 00, minus the $10
on black and red).  Funny thing was, the roulette girl called over the
pit boss to ask if it was OK for us to be together playing coupons on
black and red, but she forgot to mention the action on the zeros.  Of
couse the pit boss said no problem.  We went back the next day, but only
won that once.  Pretty cool eh.  If you try this little trick, please
try to be subtle about it so we don't get banned too quickly.
           
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From: john.durso@betabbs.newton.ma.us (John Durso)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: DR BJ rules
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:38:26 -0600
Organization: Reply to: trystro!betabbs!(firstname.lastname)@think.com
Reply-To: john.durso@betabbs.newton.ma.us (John Durso)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Anyone Know the rules for BJ in Dominican Republic (Puerto Plata)?

-

Thanks
                  
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: wilsonk@infonode.ingr.com (Keith Wilson)
Subject: need package number please...
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:26:29 GMT

Folks,

I've read all the cons about V.W. and the owner.
However, we want to stay there (not for gambling action), but to take
advantage of the "free room"...

I need the package numer of the deal with the "$200 cash back on checkout".
You know, $398 up-front for $400 worth of "house chips", $400 worth of 
"designated loser" slots, $200 worth of slots or action, and yes: free
room and shows...

Yep, we'll be staying at the non-world famous "t-bird" about 5 1/2 blocks
away.

Yep, got my federal weapons permit to protect myself...

Your help will be appreciated because:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  |             _                                |            |
Keith    Wilson   |  This      //   This is       /   This is    |    ANY     |
                  |   is      //      your       /      your     | QUESTIONS? |
                  |  your     \\    wallet on    \   wallet on   --------------
(205) 730-3415    | wallet ->  \\   marriage  ->  \   marriage
(voice mail)      |             --                    and baby  ->
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Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: lien@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LIEN FANG PEI)
Subject: Should I return the money back?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:19:14 GMT

On my last trip to Las Vegas, a cashier gave me $400     
more than I cashed in because she miscounted a black $100
chip as a pink $500 chip.

Because I didn't want the cashier to have a big
trouble, I gave the $400 back to the cashier after leaving
the cashier for five minutes.  Her manager called the
security department to check the video tape for
verification.  Yes, it was on the tape.  So, they took the
money back and I got a sensational thank for my honesty and
a complimentary meal.

I am just wondering what if I didn't return the $400?
I am positively sure that I won't return the $400 if a
dealer gives me a pink for a black.  But from a cashier, I
am still not sure.

Douglas Chang
From: irwin@uvmark.uucp (Frank Irwin)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: CQX5M it works! and a few questions.
Keywords: CQX5M, Centigram Quad X5 Matrix, RSSM, roulette
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:32:42 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan22.002425.13239@netcom.com> mhall@netcom.com (Michael Hall) writes:
>moser@sw.stratus.com (Tom Moser) writes:
>
>>I have also
>>heard rumors that one of the _big name_ rec.gamblers is working on a
>>RSSM CQX5M synthesis that eliminates the tedium of base quadrant
>>establishment. How about it guys? Comments?
>
>-- 
>Michael Hall   \ 
>personal account\            No comment.
>mhall@netcom.com \

Mike Hall?  That's not a very big name.  Only 8 letters, total.

-- 
 ============================================================================
 Frank Irwin                | "I've got 5 tokens.  You've got 5 tokens.
 Vmark Software, Inc.       |  Let's get us a room."
 irwin%uvmark@merk.com      |           -- New pick-up line at the Frontier
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Should I return the money back?
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:45:04 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1993Jan22.211914.26981@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, lien@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LIEN FANG PEI) writes:

| I am just wondering what if I didn't return the $400?
| I am positively sure that I won't return the $400 if a
| dealer gives me a pink for a black.  But from a cashier, I
| am still not sure.

  I'm sure if I caught an error for or against me I would see that it
got corrected. By the cashier, by the dealer, whatever. If the money is
not mine and I can identify who is the rightful owner, it goes back.

  If I find a chip on the floor or something with no one looking for
it, then it's mine, because the rightful owner can't be located. If I
can take advantage of their rules to accept an offer, get a comp,
qualify for a better price, etc, I will, but I won't take something
which clearly isn't mine.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	A terible poker player can have a great hand,
	A obnoxious fool can have a good idea.
	Both are winners, regardless of who has them.
From: dbarnett@tamu.edu (David Barnett)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Should I return the money back?
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:33:28
Organization: Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: auvc5.tamu.edu
In-reply-to: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM's message of 27 Jan 93 20:45:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.204504.21141@crd.ge.com> davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:

>  I'm sure if I caught an error for or against me I would see that it
>got corrected. By the cashier, by the dealer, whatever. If the money is
>not mine and I can identify who is the rightful owner, it goes back.

It is easy enough to correct errors in your favor, but often difficult
or impossible to correct errors against you.  The first time a dealer
erroneously paid me off at blackjack, I gave the money back.  But
after a few experiences having my cards and my money snatched away
when I should have pushed, I decided to let most errors slide and hope
that it all evens out in the end.

Not a very noble attitude, but there isn't a lot of nobility in most
casinos that I've seen.  Maybe that's why the Divine Masters disapprove.

--
David Barnett
dbarnett@tamu.edu
From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Las Vegas Question
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:35:17 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu
Summary: Re: Las Vegas Question

In article <1993Jan25.212741.18782@philabs.philips.com>, jaa@philabs.philips.com (Joseph M. Amato) writes:
> 
> Do the casinoes in Vegas accept travelers checks at the tables?
> Or does one have to go to the cashier or change window first?
> 
> does it vary from casino to casino?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Joe Amato
> -- 
No,

But the cashier windows do!


Good Luck!



Try Neptune's Treasure Progressives near the bathroom at Golden Nugget.


Coz











Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: hallyb@globbo.enet.dec.com (John Hallyburton)
Subject: Re: CQX5M it works! and a few questions.
Summary: Countermeasures are on the way
Keywords: CQX5M
Organization: Twin Peaks Municipal Software Works
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:05:23 GMT


moser@sw.stratus.com (Tom Moser) writes...
>Does anyone use simplified CQX5M to determine Red/Black? If so how do
>you drift correct? Do you just restart from a new quadrant?

First off, I don't own the system -- I just get occasional letters from
a friend who plays it.  But from what I understand this is just hit-or-miss.
I.e., you select a quadrant ("quintant" would be more correct but also
more confusing) and play it for, ohh, 5 spins.  If you don't win at least
3 of the 5 then go on to the next one.  You'll quickly find which one works,
and have the cover of losing a few while hunting.  (There is also an algorithm
for selecting a most-likely first guess, but it's not entirely reliable).

>Finally, has anyone found a wheel where CQX5M does not work? I have
>seen that phemomenon twice. [...]

My understanding is that it is more the dealer than the wheel.
A good dealer can perform the roulette equivalent of "shuffling up" by
suitable modifications to wheel speed and ball velocity.  This can be done 
so subtly as to be imperceptible, except by noticing you are SUDDENLY LOSING.
One Rio dealer alternately "shoves" the ball and "pinches" it, which kills
CQX5M (unless the player accounts for it by running two concurrent matrices).
--
						"The Smart Money was on Goliath"
						John Hallyburton 43 55'N 71 45'W
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: ege@cbnews.cb.att.com (Ernie Englehart)
Subject: Re: Rubble Heaps.
Organization: AT&T Network Systems
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:55:22 GMT

From article <1993Jan25.131727.7450@gw.wmich.edu>, by 22sullivan@gw.wmich.edu:
> In article <1k13h8$6go@agate.berkeley.edu>, jacob@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jacob Jin) writes:
>> The Dunes is bidding its last farewell. The doors are closing
>> at midnight, HA HA HA HA HA HA!
>> 
> 
>      I thought they were just closing to do some major remodeling.  Does
> someone know if this is true.
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Sullivan
> COLD IN KALAMAZOO!!!!!
> 

It is true.  The Dunes is coming down.  Steve Wynn of Golden Nugget and Mirage
fame has bought it and he plans on building some "theme hotels".  They say
that the new complex will be only hotel rooms; no casino.

1700 employees of the Dunes have lost their jobs.  Some of them, the
lucky ones, will find jobs elsewhere - maybe they'll have to wait until
Treasure Island, MGM, and that pyramid place (I forget the name but it's
owned by C^2) open up, probably in 1994.

-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|   Ernie Englehart   AT&T Network Systems    Columbus, Ohio   |
|   att!wisny!ege     Room 3R-109A            (614) 860-5244   |
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (Andy Lipscomb)
Subject: Re: Double Down Stud
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:22:27 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

> Sure. PLayers place their bet ($5 min at the Hilton). Each player is dealt 1
> card face up. The dealer then deals 4 cards, 1 down and 3 up. Now is where
> the fun comes in. All players use the 4 cards in front of the dealer in
> their hand. Since you can see 3 of the 4 cards in your hand, you know
> basically if you've got anything. At this point you have the option to
> "DOUBLE DOWN" your bet. I'll set up a sample hand, it'll be easier to show
> than describe.
> 
> Player 1 bets 5 and gets a Jack.
> 
> Player 2 bets 5 and gets a 7.
> 
> Player 3 bets 10 and gets a 4.
> 
> The dealer deals one down, a six, a Jack, and a 4.
> 
> Real quick, the payouts! (I now appollogize for the haphazzard arrangement
> of my desciption)
> 
> Pair 6 - 10 PUSH
> Pair J - A  Pays 1-1 
> Two Pair    Pays 2-1
> 3 of a Kind Pays 3-1
> Straight    Pays 5-1
> Flush       Pays 8-1
> Fullhouse   Pays 11-1
> 4 of a kind Pays 50-1 (I think)
> Strt. Flush Pays 200-1
> Royal Flush Pays 2000-1
> 
> That's about what I remember. (It's not like I wasn't drinking or anything)
> 
> So back to our scenario.  P1 has at least a pair of jacks @ 1-1, so he
> Doubles down (now @ $10). P2 has the 7 with nothing showing for help, so he
> doesn't DD. Player 3 sees another 4, but since you need 6's or better to
> push, P3 decides not to double the bet. 
>      After all players have had a chance to make their Double, the 5th card
> is turned. In our scenario, it turns out to be another 4.
> 
> Player 1 now has two pair (J & 4), so his bet of 10 gets paid 2-1!
> Player 2 has a pair of 4s, not enough to push, house takes his 5.
> Player 3 lucks out, now having three of a kind . 10 @ 3-1 pays 30.
> 
> If p3 had doubled on the chance there was a 4, then it's a nice $60 pay!
> 
> Try to get 60 in a regular game of 5 stud with 3 of a kind.
> 
> Anyway, hope I 'splained it OK.


Well enough that I will now analyze the game (basic strategy, expectation);
I don't think I can quite handle taking into account other players' cards.

  |
--+-- Andy Lipscomb
  |   lipscoja@(ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu,vuctrvax.bitnet)
  |   Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.
Newsgroups: rec.gambling,rec.sport.football.pro
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: Super Bowl info (some which I was looking for)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:32:12 GMT

In article <1k7pvgINNd0d@uwm.edu>, tanj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (TanJ) writes:
|> 
|> Okay....seeing that no one helped me get this information which I requested
|> about a week ago, this is what I compiled earlier in the week.
|> 
|> Dallas -7
|> Over/Under 45
|> Total Points First Quarter Over/Under 9.5
|> Total Points Second Quarter Over/Under 13.5
|> Total Points First Half Over/Under 22
|> First Half Dallas -4
|> Total Points Third Quarter Over/Under 9.5
|> Total Points Fourth Quarter Over/Under (NO OVERTIME) 12.5
|> Total Points Second Half Over/Under (NO OVERTIME) 23
|> Second Half Dallas (NO OVERTIME) -3
|> Total Touchdowns Over/Under 5.5
|> Total Field Goals Over/Under 3.5
|> Total Fumbles Lost Over/Under 3.5
|> Total Punts Over/Under 6.5
|> Total Pentalties Over/Under 9.5
|> Total Sacks Over/Under 5.5
|> 
|> 
|> And that's all that I have right now.  If anyone would like to add to this list
|> please do so.


  The money line from a Reno casino earlier this week was:

                          Dallas -250
                          Buffalo +200
 This means if you bet $250 on Dallas you'll win $100 if they win the game,
while a $100 bet on Buffalo gets you $200 if they win the game. No points are
used on these bets - just straight wins.
 
I think betting on Buffalo to win with 2-1 odds is the best bet of the game. One
of the best bets in Super Bowl history!

-Ron 

Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: laralee@helios.nevada.edu (Laralee P. Nelson)
Subject: Re: Dunes ???
Keywords: Closing ??
Organization: UNLV
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:16:43 GMT

In article <winslade.728109132@cwis> winslade@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Winslade) writes:
>From: winslade@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Winslade)
>Subject: Dunes ???
>Keywords: Closing ??
>Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:32:12 GMT
>A coworker told me today that a FOAF* told him that the Dunes in LV
>was shutting down.  Is this true or just rumor ??
> 
>Good day       JSW
>
Yup.  As of midnight Jan. 25th it is no more.  Steve Wynn (Golden Nugget,
Mirage) apparently will incorporate it into his empire, but it will take some
years.
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: rbmoore@crchh84b.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Robert Moore)
Subject: Black 13 strikes again!
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 15:52:17 GMT
Organization: BNR, Inc.


You read correctly...

I was in our favorite city this past weekend, the first time for my wife.  She *had* to
go see Excalibur, so I brought her just for a quick peek.

The first thing I noticed was the previously mentioned uniform change for the dealers.  They
do look much better, and I for one, don't feel sorry for the dealers anymore having to wear
Clown outfits.

While she was looking around, I sat at a BJ Shoe table, and won the ten remaining hands left
in the shoe.  The first hand of the new shoe I lost, and I was gone after tipping the dealer
graciously.

After cashing in, I found my wife, and we started heading for the door when we went by a
Roulette table.  I said to her, "Never ever play roulette, but if you must, there is only
one number to play --- Black Thirteen."  At this point, I pulled $10 of my prior winnings
out, placed it on 13 and said Money plays, black thirteen.  PRESTO!

It hit, the dealer said "how'd you know that", the pit boss looked at me strange and I said,
"Tradition - it is the only number to play".

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOTICE TO CRAPS PLAYERS!  (This belongs in the FAQ)

I was awakened to a harsh reality this past weekend when my rating was cut by 2/3rds.

Prior to this trip, I was only rated at Caesars.  I ASSumed, and oh was and ASSumption
it was, that I would be better off, comp wise, at the Golden Nugget, who would not expect
as much.

When it comes to your overall rating, Golden Nugget does not count your odds bet at all!
"The casino does not make anything off the odds bet, so why should we count it?"

Moral to the story:  Know how the casino figures ratings.  From what I gather, each casino
may or may not count the odds.  This subject deserves its own thread - see article with
subject line "Craps Odds & Casino Ratings".