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From: dlf@aber.ac.uk (David Fenerty)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: FIFA rule
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:39:05 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

How effective do you guys think the following tactic will be as regards
circumventing the new FIFA rule/ timewasting?

1. Defender kicks (chips?) ball to 'keeper...

2. 'keeper chips ball to defender...

3. who plays ball to keeper with head/knee/anything but foot.

What I have in mind is a defender who gets REAL close to allow the 'keeper
to chip-kick the ball against the defenders body and catch it when it bounces
off. I think this can be done real quick.

Any coaches out there with comments or better ideas...?

                       Dave the Scouser.
From: mverona@cs.umd.edu (Mary Verona)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: olympic coverage
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:24:02 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742



I watched the Italy-USA game without sound on a sattelite feed at a
restaurant.  They could not find the correct feed today durin the
Kuwait game.  Does anyone know what numbers I can check to make sure
I can find the next US game?

Respond here - I bet others want to know, or send email to
mverona@tove.cs.umd.edu
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: bloody US media
Date: 29 Jul 1992 13:28:25 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I hope some day to come up with statistics that show just how much 
revenue soccer generates around the world.  It may take just that type 
of information to convince them.

After all, the only thing they understand is $$$$$$.  They can't equate 
popularity with $$$$$.  After all, if soccer is the second most popular 
participant sport in the US, somebody must be spending money on soft 
drinks, sport drinks, sport foods, athletic equipment, etc.  Do they 
think that soccer players play in barefeet, on streets, and don't eat or drink.

We spend money too, and if you want our advertising dollars then you 
better show us what we want!!!!!

Give us SOCCER/FOOTBALL/FUTBOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Francis.
From: craa83@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Hooligans, etc.
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:04:22 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <9207232034.AA07981@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU writes:
> There is are several really good books out (mostly in the UK) about 
> hooliganism in sport and the cause/effect relationships therein. Unfortunately
> I can't remember the titles, although Soccer Bookshelf inthe UK carries many 
> of them. Also, a book called Science and Football has, among other things, a 
> VERY interesting rather scientific look at all aspects of the game. The 
> testing is not done by merely reporting opinions, but is backed up by 
> seemingly well-designed testing.
> 
> Seems to me, though, that American football went through a similar phase and 
> now we have a cold and calculated game as opposed to the magic that soccer 
> can be.
> 
> 	josef
> 
	jzeevi@swri.edu

       Two books that will give you a decent insight into hooliganism are 
       Bloody Casuals by Jay Allan the other one i think the title of it is
Arsenal Boys but cant remember the author . I read it so long ago its difficult
to remember.
From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Calling NBC/triple cast for soccer complaints
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:09:50 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


 Isn't UNIVISION a U.S. based network. I think they are based either in
 New York or Miami.  That's a lame excuse for not selling olympic soccer
 rights to UNIVISION.  NBC is apparently running out of excuses to cover
 up this blunder (Not showing soccer).  I guess NBC has forgotten that
 soccer is the world's most popular sport and not volleyball.

 Miguel
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Re: US Olympic Soccer - Team
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:53:11 GMT

Troy Dayak, Alexi Lalas, Chris Henderson, Zak Ibsen, and Dante Washington
all have caps for the US International team.  Henderson is the only regular.

Andy


Xref: sparky rec.sport.soccer:10889 rec.sport.olympics:2071
From: mikhail@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Mikhail Ossama)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: EGYPT will be back (was :Re: Olympic Soccer--Standings)
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:50:41 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Jul29.194901.26545@cs.yale.edu> ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>
>In article <1992Jul29.185613.25463@daimi.aau.dk>, rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>
>> I am very pleased to see that the Olympic tournament has finally gotten
>> rid of Egypt. After their Italy '90 performance I had no wish to see
>> them again. 
>
>Maybe if you looked at it without colored glasses, you might have
>wished to see them again...  Dunno if you saw the same WC '90 or not,
>but I distinctly remember Egypt almost embarrassing the Netherlands.
>Or maybe *that* is why you did not wish to see them again?

	We will be BACK .. 

An Egyptian 
--
Ossama Mikhail
mikhail@ere.umontreal.ca
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish Predictions.....again
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:48:49 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Scottish Predictions 1992-93
============================

Pretty much the same as last years assessment, so that's why it's
quite brief. 

Anyone with no sense of humour should stop reading now and go
and buy a copy of the CELTIC VIEW. Here goes.................

Rangers will win the Treble (T-R-E-B-L-E) this season. Hopefully
they'll progress further in Europe. They'd better cos I'm out of
the country from September until December although I wont be offline
that's for sure......  The Sun had a story yesterday claiming Ruud Guulit
 is set to sign for Rangers. Absolute pish although I wish the Orangeman
was signing.

Celtic will remain tropyless (T-R-O-P-H-Y-L-E-S-S) this season.
With the most sought after midfielder in Europe staying,
the Board will probably give Liam Brady absolutely nothing for strengthening 
the team.  Just after Brady signed Tony CannyScoretoSAveHimself for a million
quid last season there were various pledges that this would be peanuts and he
wouldnt be afraid to spend a lot more on one player. So what happenned ? Maybe
they're spending all their money on the Elvis comeback concert.
They'll also claim they need the money for ground improvements
especially for the turnstiles which have deemed unsafe by the cooncil.
Anyone on the look out for a novel birthday present for someone ?
Celtic are selling the old turnstiles and should look good on
top of the telly or on the mantlepiece.

Hearts will bleat on about being the 3rd biggest club in Scotland
as they strive to win a trophy for the first time since the 1960's
and will continue to progress by selling all their "best" players and buy
Ally Mauchlen and Peter van de Van. A lot of Hearts fans must feel a bit
shortchanged after Wallace Mercer bragged about giving Jordan the Hen Broon
transfer fee (1.3 million) to invest. What a liar.

Hibs -- who knows ????

Aberdeen will continue with innovative signings. Who else could think
up a signing such as Roy Aitken ? 

Motherwell, Falkirk,St Johnstone, Dundee Utd will probably end up much the
same as last year.

Airdrie will probably do much the same as last year -- kick everyone 
off the park but claim they were the victims.

Partick and Dundee, the new entrants will probably find it quite difficult
with little money around. Hopefully they wont resort to the Airdrie tactics.


Sandy Mackinnon			FIVE IN A ROW !!!!!!
University of Strathclyde
Glasgow
cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SPAIN,ITALY,QATAR,POLAND through
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:34:31 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


 So much for CONCACAF's top qualifying team, the U.S.   Leaving their top
 scorer Steve Snow out of the opening game was the biggest mistake they
 could have made.  Now, as usual, it is up to Mexico to bring recognition
 for the CONCACAF.

 Miguel Figueroa
From: coyle@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool transfers???
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:11:11 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <27JUL92.15721767.0094@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, G62N000 <G62N@UNB.CA> writes:
> Does anybody have any information on transfers to/from Liverpool F.C.
> I know that we bought Paul Stewart from Spurs and Barry Venison was
> sold.
> Any other news, rumors?
> 
I think Ray Houghton has been sold to Aston Villa???? for 900,000 pounds.
I'm not sure about the price or who he was sold to though.> 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ml@vcp1.vcp.monash.edu.au
Subject: Borussia Dortmund Lineup
Organization: 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:36:27 GMT

G'day,


Can someone - anyone - please send me the list of the current BvB 09 Borussia
Dortmund lineup for 1992-1993 season, including stats like, position, number
of Bundesliga matches, number of internationals, age, previous clubs, ect.?


Thanks in advance,



Keep stretching the net (unless you're a Goalkeeper),
Cheers,
Mik.

/*****************************************************************************\
*    Mik Lipcsey, Computer Systems Officer, Victorian College of Pharmacy,    *
*         Monash University, 381 Royal Parade, Parkville, Australia.          *
* Aarnet:  ml@vcp.monash.edu.au  *  'Open the Pod Bay Door, please, HAL' 2001 *
>*****************************************************************************<
* I am home, I know the way,             \_____---- 'Evening falls...' (1988) *
* I am home, feeling, oh, so far away... /                   Roma Ryan & Enya *
* For so great a treasure, words will never do... ---------- 'Angeles' (1991) *
\*****************************************************************************/
   BvB 09 Borussia Dortmund * FC Freiburg * Tottenham Hotspurs * Ferencvaros
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Olympic Soccer--Standings
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:24:13 GMT
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association


ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:


>In article <1992Jul29.185613.25463@daimi.aau.dk>, rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

>> I am very pleased to see that the Olympic tournament has finally gotten
>> rid of Egypt. After their Italy '90 performance I had no wish to see
>> them again. 

>Maybe if you looked at it without colored glasses, you might have
>wished to see them again...  Dunno if you saw the same WC '90 or not,
>but I distinctly remember Egypt almost embarrassing the Netherlands.
>Or maybe *that* is why you did not wish to see them again?

I remember an Egyptian team playing negative, destructive and very
defensive. Their match against Ireland was an insult against any
spectator. As for the match against Netherlands - I remember a goal
scored on a penalty that never was a penalty, not exactly embarassing
the opponent.

I hope that the other African teams keeps Egypt out of USA '94.
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen      | Bramming Boldklub - eh ...
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |
      Glasgow Rangers - AC Milan - FC Barcelona
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: CG.JON@forsythe.stanford.edu (John Pearson)
Subject: Re: Live division one matches
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:59:10 GMT



Over the past couple of years cable stations in the US have been
showing weekly highlights (if that's the word) of English First
Division Games.

I am wondering whether this will continue given the new agreement
between the Premier League and Bsky Satellite TV  ( or whatever it
is called).

Or will we now get just First Division games ( i.e. Second Division
games in the old format), which as I understand are going to be
shown on UK tv

Anyone have any thoughts on this?  Opinions--though maybe that is
asking for it!!!

John Pearson
Stanford
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: mortene@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Eriksen)
Subject: Arsenal On Tour
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 09:44:44 GMT

Went to see Arsenal play against a local team yesterday evening, consisted of
players from several clubs in the district from middle Norway (Nord-Troendelag).
The result:
		Nord-Troendelag vs Arsenal FC 1-0    (!!!!!!!!!!!)

I was really ashamed of being an Arsenalsupporter at the game.....they played
f**king HORRIBLE!!!!

-Morten
PS: Their Norwegian Tour will continue for a couple of weeks, so please mail the
other results (they'll meet Brann in Bergen, amongst others), somebody.
From: james@hisoft.com (James C. Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: "Kicker Sonderheft" predictions
Date: 21 Jul 1992 09:14:05 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

-> the new "Kicker Sonderheft Bundesliga" has just appeared.
-> It costs 7 DM , and, as usual, should be read when the season is
-> over, to get the most amusement out of the predictions ;-)

Well...  What were they???
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: among the thugs
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:08:18 GMT

In article <YePNTGi00Uzx42WHAS@andrew.cmu.edu> "Paul M. Smith" <ps2g+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I'm new to this bboard as of July, so excuse me if this one's already
>been done:  If anyone out there has read Bill Buford's Among the Thugs,
>I'm interested in collecting responses to it. The thing is, I have to do
>a review of it for an electronic journal, Postmodern Culture, and
>thought it would be valuably postmodern, not to mention nicely cultural,
>to see what netnews folk had to say about it.
>
I must admit that I haven't read the book, but I did hear Buford
discussing it on National Public Radio's "Fresh Air". My impression
was very much that here was another guy who wanted to be taken in by
the American media's belief that every English soccer fan is a
hooligan etc etc. What set him off on the hooligan trail was,
apparently, the horror of a bunch of Liverpool supporters chanting
"Liverpool, Liverpool" on a train in Wales. Real hard core
hooliganism that...

Interestingly, the only actual violence described by Buford on the
program was that perpetrated by Italian police on English fans (and
himself) during Italia '90. Maybe the book is rather more interesting
than I suspect it is, but from the evidence I've heard I wouldn't risk
treating it as an authoritative reference on English soccer
hooliganism. 

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
From: psgjf@gamgee.cc.flinders.edu.au (<G.J.Fraser>)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Result
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:54:21 GMT
Organization: Flinders University

In article <92206.205853RXK14@psuvm.psu.edu> RXK14@psuvm.psu.edu (Rod Khayat) writes:
>Could some one tell me the result Between:
>
>Poland V. Kuwait
>Egypt  V. Qatar
>
>thanks..

Poland 2? Kuwait 0

Egypt 0 Qatar 1

Ghana 3 Australia 1 :-(

That's all for now.

Geoff.

-- 
Geoff Fraser, Dept of Psychology, | AARNet        : psgjf@cc.flinders.edu.au
Flinders University, GPO Box 2100,| Phone (Int.)  : 61-8-2012469
Adelaide, 5001, Australia         | Phone (Aust.) :   08-2012469
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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: US College Soccer on TV
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:11:43 GMT

Prime Network will be showing the preseason game between Santa Clara and
Virginia on September 2.

Anybody who is a fan of college soccer should pay attention to the Prime
Network scheduale because they tend to show a good amount of college ball.

Andy
From: rcampb@u.washington.edu (Russ Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Primary Sponsors of WC 1994
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:36:24 GMT
Organization: UW Information Systems

In article <1992Jul31.160451.28866@europa.asd.contel.com>, andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
> The group of ten companies that will sponsor WC 1994 has been completed.
> 
> The group is:
> Canon
> Fuji Film
> Gillete
> JVC
> Mars
> Mastercard
> McDonalds
> Philips
> Coca Cola
> General Motors

They forgot to add number 11:   rec.sport.soccer    ;^)

-russ
From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Transfers in England
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:07:21 GMT
Organization: Philips Research Labs (Nat.Lab), Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Originator: collins@serpent

Could someone please post a listing of the major transfers in England so 
far this close season.

thanks
--
Donie Collins
From: csfraw@kullero.cs.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Olympic Soccer Results.
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:01:30 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@kullero.cs.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

The results so far
****************************************************

        Group A                  Group B 
        -------                  ------- 

 24Jul  Italy  v U.S.   (2-1)    Spain v Columbia (4-0)
        Poland v Kuwait (2-0)    Egypt v Qatar    (0-1)

        Group C                  Group D
        -------                  -------

 26Jul  Sweden v Paraguay (1-1)       Denmark v Mexico     (0-0)
        Morocco v South Korea(1-1)    Ghana v    Australia (3-1)



--
Francis A-Akoto             | csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi| Who the cap fits let
Department Of Comp. Science | csfraw@kielo.cs.uta.fi| them wear it . 
PL 607                      |                       |
33101 Tampere,Finland       |                       |         - Bob Marley
From: kd@icarus.lis.pitt.edu (Ketil Danielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Where are the Norwegian soccer results?
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:58:10 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh, Telecommunications Program
Originator: kd@icarus.lis.pitt.edu

Does anyone know the results from the past two-three
weeks of the Norwegian "Eliteserien"?  If yes; please
post these -- and 1st Division as well.  The Norwegian
nationalteam??  Anything of such uttermost importance will 
be appreciated over here.  U.S. newspapers are useless!

 . Jeg (og mange andre) har vaert sulteforet paa 
   viktig nytt siste maaneden!  FellesFerie???
 . Vaer snill mot nordmenn i utlendighet!!
 . Kvissleis gjeng det for Glimt? Tromsoe? 

Aerboedigst,
Ketil Danielsen
-- 
+--------------------------------------------------+
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+----- office ---------------------- home ---------+
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Re: Liverpool transfers???
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:13:08 GMT

In <1992Jul28.101111.9683@waikato.ac.nz> coyle@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>> Does anybody have any information on transfers to/from Liverpool F.C.
>> I know that we bought Paul Stewart from Spurs and Barry Venison was
>> sold.
>> Any other news, rumors?
>> 
>I think Ray Houghton has been sold to Aston Villa???? for 900,000 pounds.
>I'm not sure about the price or who he was sold to though.> 

David James joined Liverpool from Watford for about 1 - 1.5 million pounds.
(It appears that James let in a soft goal during Liverpool's 3-2 defeat
against Borussia Dortmund).
Paul Stewart joined for 2.3 million from Spurs (which just shows how crazy
the market has gone. Stewart is an ok player but 2.3 million ????.)
Liverpool tried to sign John Beresford from Portsmouth earlier in the summer 
but he preferred to join Newcastle instead.

As usual the press link almost every Premiere League player who is available
with Liverpool, Spurs, Man.Utd and Arsenal. 

Barry Venison has left for Newcastle United (270,000) and Ray Houghton
joined Aston Villa (900,000). I presume that Mike Hooper (or Grobbelaar)
is up for sale now that James has joined and as far as I know Souness 
has been trying to get rid of Ronnie Rosenthal since he arrived.

Selling Houghton for 900,000 and buying Stewart for 2.3 million doesn't seem
good business to me, even if it does give Liverpool an extra Englishman and
one less 'foreigner'* to worry about. 

*I am referring to UEFA's definition of a foreigner here.
__
From: Gordon.Taylor@newcastle.ac.uk (G.B. Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Club Squads for New English/Scottish Season
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:56:25 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU


 I am trying to compile a list for all English Premier Division, First
Division and Scottish Premier Division First team Squads for the
new season. If anyone would be willing to post details of their home
town club/clubs I would be very grateful.

 If I manage to get a decent list together I'll post it to anyone who
want's it.

 If you do post a Squad, could you also post the the team home and away
strips for the new season, as everyone seems to change design every year
now. Thanks in advance. 
 
 
Gordon.Taylor@newcastle.ac.uk    |  "I was born in 1812 Overture, which
Computing Laboratory,            |   makes me 40 years old."
Newcastle University, UK.        |                   - Donald Stott.
From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: CONCACAF qualifying games
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:43:39 GMT

The Honduras Costa Rica game was refereed by an American crew,

	Majid Jay, Referee
	George Noujaim, Linesman
	(someone else, I forgot), linesman
	Brian Hall, 4th official

I could be wrong, all FIFA, except George ?)

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: Eric Wynalda News
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:54:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.121058.1889@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
>From Soccer America:
>
>US Striker Eric Wynalda scored his second goal in as many games since joining
>FC Saarbruecken of the German Bundesliga.
>
>Wynalda connected in the 25th minute of a preseason game against Swedish First
>Division club Hammarby July 8 as Saarbruecken captured a 3-1 victory.   The
                                                          ^^^
Funny, there was a posting the other day saying that Hammarby won
this game 3-0...

>23 year old Californian had scored in his debut, a 1-1 tie with SVV Dordrecht 
>of Holland.
>
>Andy
> 

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
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