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From: mdavis@alex (M. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga,alt.manga
Subject: subscribing to manga
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:22:30 GMT
Organization: Trinity University, San Antonio TX. USA

Does anyone know of a way to subscribe to Young Champion?  Do the larger
bookstores like Kinokuniya offer this service?  Or perhaps the publisher?

The story "Another Tomorrow," by my pen-pal Seiji Sugou, just started this monthand I'd really like to be able to follow it regularly.

Any suggestions for how to obtain this magazine regularly will be appreciated.

From the electrons of another manga lover...
*************************** "Leaving the nest and killing your parents are
*    Matthew A. Davis     *  two different things."
* (aka Prince Nematocyst) *                   -Masamune Shirou
*   mdavis@trinity.edu    *
*************************** 
        I do not speak for Trinity (or anyone else, for that matter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: kazuhiko@lut.fi (Kazuhiko Nakada)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality, shoujo manga, etc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:56:04 GMT
	<1992Aug23.171119.29275@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

   > BTW, please don't post noise about where r.a.m is, etc., go through
   > the normal channels to change the FAQ.

   Sorry.
   -- 
You don't have to feel sorry at all.Some times I ,who is a native Japanese, can't understand what my friends are thinking about.
 
Once I went to an ANIME event and had a chance to listen to TAKEMIYA KEIKO?'s
talk (I'm not so sure about her name.Because it was a long time ago.),who is
well-known for her "KAZE TO KI NO UTA"(gay story). She wanted to draw a love
story.But she couldn't describe love between male and female because it was
too real for the girls at that time.That's the reason she decided to draw
a gay story.It didn't make them feel erotic because it was too unreal.
Isn't it funny and strange?

kazuhiko@sisu.lut.fi
Lappeenranta University of Technology
 
Life is full of mystery.
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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon (was Re: Homosexuality in manga)
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:47:57 GMT

In article <17ckboINNmjp@agate.berkeley.edu>, ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:
# In article <BtIqFt.D3M@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
# ># 
# ># BTW, (to get us back on topic), how does the Sailor Moon manga fare?
# >#   Is it as funny as the anime?  Of course, I assume the manga's better...
# >
# >Does anyone know if there are any compiled volumes of the Sailor
# >Moon manga?  I don't want to by the whole Nakayoshi for Sailor Moon.
# 
# There is in fact a Sailor Moon manga, and it took me a while to find one here
# in Southern California.  The manga has the same title as the anime show, and 
# it's by Takeuchi Naoko, of the Kodansya Comics.  The manga itself is...
# not bad, but it doesn't contain nearly as much story as the anime show.  Sailor
# Moon anime is, by most part, original.  Sailor Mercury doesn't appear in anime
# until much later in the series, but she came popping out in Ch.2 of the manga.
# This may explain why certain features of SM anime is so pleasantly predictable;
# because it was not written.  Good job by the animators, and we have to thank 
# those sick minds who can come out with a shojo anime only grown men would
# watch.

I picked it up.  Most of the bookstores I went to didn't have it.
The manga is ok.
Of course I like the anime much better:-)

# Yeah, well... If you're over 18, male, and enjoys watching little girls running
# around in skimpy sailor uniforms .... join the club.

I know a three year old boy who loves Sailor Moon..

--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan          [from Japan: doi@dec-j.co.jp]
From: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Dark Whisper 2?
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:45:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue Animation Club, Purdue University


	Remember the Dark Whisper by Ikuto Yamashita (P.C. Comix). 
	It has been out since July, 90, and I have been searching 
	for its volumn 2 for over a year now.

	Has anyone seen the volumn 2 or latter of the Dark Whisper
	or where I might be able to find it? 
	I appreciate any info given.
	(If it is not continuing, please also drop me a message so
	 that I can re-allocate the energy searching for the next
	 item on my list.)

	Many thanks.


	 - B.W.


---

*  Benjamin Wai.  ( Purdue Animation Club ) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Taiho! (WAS: The Amazing World of Japanese Comics)
Date: 29 Aug 1992 19:49:48 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Library HAS IT!
Keywords: Fujishima/Taihoshichauzo
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <michaele.01ib@nagisa.nsg.com.au> michaele@nsg.nsg.com.au writes:


>and Kosuke Fujishima's other work "Taihoshichauzo" (You are Under Arrest!).
>[Now I just have to find some of this *sigh*]  

Speaking of Taiho, for those of you who lives in the bay area Oakland Asian
Library has vol. 1-5...

>Michael



Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:09:12 -0400 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ninja HS and Lesbianism and another note...
	<1992Aug30.090058.5478@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>

Don't you just know it....and here I thought NHS was clean.....oh well..that's
what you get for not being "approved by the ACA."  A phrase we see too
much on all standard DC and Marvel comics....maybe that's why, IMHO,
American comics haven't matched up to the Japanese.  We restrict or
artists too much....if American artists can produce records with
profanity and sexual overtones, why shouldn't the artists that
painstakingly work on these comics???? Just a thought.

And if you are going to refute the comment, don't put somthing in there
about "well, kids like comics and they would want to buy them..."  It
the parents responsibility to monitor kids...and what they watch...but
if retail stores and video stores can refuse kids the right to buy
material that is "obscene" the comic stores should do the same....Lets
all follow suit people...

Just a concern....

------------------
What a piece of work is man, how noble in reason, how infinite in
faculties; in form and moving, how express and admirable, in action like
an angel, in apprehension like a god: the beauty of the world, the
paragon of animals!
        (Hamlet, Act II, scene ii)

-Archfiend 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: kennyy@bnr.ca (Kenny Yan)
Subject: Re: bloodsword?
Reply-To: kennyy@bnr.ca (Kenny Yan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:36:44 GMT

Blood Sword and Blood Sword Dynasty comes from Hong Kong,
not Japan.  The two books are actually from one series.
Blood Sword comes from the earlier issues, and I think it
has maybe 2 more years to go before ending at the beginning
of issue 1 of Blood Sword Dynasty.

At the time they came out in Hong Kong, they were THE best-
drawn best-plotted comics.  Yes, I'd recommend you pick it
up and try it.

Hmm, I wonder if this can be considered as manga.  It's not
black & white, doesn't come in telephone books; but there
are lots of speed lines in each picture... :-)

Kenny Yan.
kennyy@bnr.ca
The above is not a BNR comment/statement/view/press release.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: hoeke@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: New Translated Manga? Reviews Requested
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:06:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.032600.15577@ecst.csuchico.edu>, tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn) writes:
> Just picked up the first four issues of Raika. Looks good. Anyone have
> any warnings or tidbits to share about this translated manga?  It's from
> Sun Comic Pub, a co. I've not heard of before. Have they done/are they 
> doing anything else currently?
> 
> Also, on the back cover, they advertise for High School Agent, Ragnarok
> Guy and Cosmos. Any info on these three would be appreciated.

    I happen to know that  _Ragnarok Guy_ (by Tsuguo Okazaki... creator of
_Cosmo Police Justy_ and artist for the manga adaptation of _Macross II_) will
be a well written, and accurate translation of the original. The art style is
more advanced than _Justy_, written a couple of years later. Guy Greybird, the
main character, is one of a special elite warrior group "30 Satan" who breaks
his computer conditioning. What happens afterwards is the stuph of the story!
It makes side forays into light esper, and some Viking legend based charaters.
But, what can you expect with a name like "Ragnarok"?

   The translators are a team of three from Tuscon. One native Japanese, and
two Americans who spent several years living and working in Japan. They are
also some of the best translators I know, and work very well as a team. 

What does my recommendation have to do with all this? Well, if you have seen
the translation of _The Humanoid_, or _M.D. Geist_, that is a sample of their
work. They ARE friends of mine... and I went through the beginnings of the same
Japanese language program they attended at Univerity of Arizona. However, I
received by degree and moved on before attending the second year of Japanese.
Their teacher is internationally recognized as the best linguist in Japanese
language studies, and they took three years of courses from him -- and aced
them all. What they tell me, and I trust them, is that attempting a literal
translation is awkward at best, so they use a combination of the terms, and the
original meaning of the kanji (when necessary) to achieve the substance, then
modify the translation to convey the meaning in English. Semi-pro writers all,
this results is a very readable translation.

   So? I'm looking forward to this! And I hope Sun manages to stay in business
long enough to publish the complete run that they are planning. Now, if I can
just convince my local comic shop to pick up this title! :)



Tani
Carol Hoeke
hoeke@vaxb.acs.unt.edu



> 
> Lastly, seeing as I'm in the cultural center of not much here, can some
> kind soul clue me in to other new translated mangas that should be out
> "real soon now"? Thanks in advance.
> -- 
> If you're not very clever you should be conciliatory.
> 		-- Benjamin Disraeli
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Ranma 1/2 (Viz)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:05:13 GMT

cjudd@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au (Craig Thomas Judd) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.164909.20018@newshost.unh.edu>, msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno) writes:
>> Actually I kind of liked it better colored.
>NNAAAANNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII??????!?!??!?!!!!!
>Well guys, we got ourselves a radical here. I have yet to see Ranma colourised,

Heh, heh. I'm staying out of it this time. I didn't mind the colorization
either, but I also don't miss it because it means I can now pick up both Ranma
and Silent Moebius for fifty cents more than one colored Ranma...

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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From: amos@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Walter M. Amos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga,alt.manga
Subject: Cosmo Police Justy???
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:01:48 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.manga
Organization: The Leader Desslok School of Diplomacy

Thanks to a good buddy of mine and a discussion at Anime Expo I have at long
last, after many months of searching, been blessed with copies of compiled
volumes 1 - 4 of the Cosmo Police Justy manga by Tsuguo Okazaki.  I was
wondering if any kind soul out there in net-land could point me in the general
direction of some translations?
===============================================================================	
"Zu jeder Zeit, an jeder Ort, bleibt das Tun         |        Walter Amos
  der Menschen das gleiche..." - Galactic Heroes II  |  amos@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Super Jump 15/1992 - Egawa Tatsuya's Golden Boy
Date: 4 Sep 1992 00:30:42 GMT
Organization: a.b., s3x3, m.j., c.n.
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Egawa Tatsuya

In article <Bu03Gp.B01@comspec.com> mikem@comspec.com (Ragnarok) writes:
>Did anyone have a look at Egawa Tatsuya's amusing one-shot story in 
>Super Jump 15/1992 called "Golden Boy"?  The characters here are not
>too much different from "Magical Taru-ruuto-kun" but at least they're
>grown up.  Some of the casual comments on computers and computer
>languages in the story were interesting, but as usual it concludes
>in a highly implausible fashion.  Still, I can recommend it for
>Egawa fans looking for something a little different...
>
To me it looks like a water down version of Be Free.  Egawa characters
(especially the male leads) can do some pretty embarrassing things in front
of the female leads.  Sometimes if I got too involved in his characters 
I'd put the book away and do something else for a while....

Be Free is the mother of all hormone-overdosed teacher story.

>The story was done as part of Super Jump's "SJ Masters" series.  (Wonder
>what that is?  This is episode 3 in that series - what of 1 and 2?)
Seems the editors are throwing in Shonen Jump artists into Super Jump, and 
have them cranking out short stories.  Other SJ Masters may include Hojo, 
Matsumoto, and Hagiwara-senseis.  A ploy to keep readers from switching 
to Sundays, if you ask me. :-P

>Interesting that all the programmers in this story were all female,
>too - maybe some sort of pro-feminist sentiment from Egawa?
>
Yeah, and in Be Free most of them got laid by the aforementioned teacher.
Nevertheless, the guy can draw babes.

Personal note to H-san: Taruruto-kun is NOT stupid.

TA-rururururururururururururu



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    davmou@ocf.berkeley.edu  ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu   studio 3x3  ^ ^

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From: mbaron@TheRat.Kludge.COM (Bryan C. Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Color in Ranma
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 20:12:04 PDT
Organization: T.H.E.R.A.T. BBS     Sunnyvale, CA     +1 408 736 8849

I heard (though it maybe untrue) that Viz is trying to back out of the 
color manga business altogether due to cost vs. sales. 

Blech.  Not only is the Jones adaptation handled incompetently, but they 
took the parts that originally APPEARED IN COLOR in their original Shonen 
Sunday publication as rendered by Takahashi herself and were reprinted in 
the compilations in black&white and colored over the b/w printings of the 
Takahashi watercolor.  Now need I say how red watercolor  for example 
looks after two-three generations of b/w copying?  It turns black!  Then 
add you viz coloring and well.... Ick.   At least Akira used the original 
color pages when they existed. 

-mbaron

--
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From: mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hmmm. . .)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: bloodsword?
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:42:32 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


Well, I've never read Japanese comics before, but a 
friend (from Taiwan) said they were the only ones she
read.  So, when i saw some issues of Blood sword and
Blood sword Dynasty at my local used book shop i wondered
if they were worth picking up.  Are they representative
of "manga" at its best?  or just the opposite?

Forgive me if i used the terms wrong, like i said, i'm
new to this field.
-Vincent
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: rumor about Shirow
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:11:47 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <Mebg9u_00Vou8k3Usn@andrew.cmu.edu> Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Gee I hope it's not true......I don't think life would be the same w/o
>Shirow....I'd miss his Appleseed, M-66, and Dominion....
>I at least hope, assuming the rumor is true, that they don't cancel the
>upcomming works, Ghost in the Shell and Orion.  

Actually, I think his real job has nothing to do with his manga...the
story published in Appleseed back pages has it that Shirow just does
this on the side (!) by himself (!!)

-- 
Dave Seah ^..^     | Graduate MSEE, University of Rochester, New York         |
Resume On Request:)| Apple II Art & Graphics Forum Consultant, America Online |

[Internet] seah@ee.rochester.edu, AFCDaveS@aol.com   [America Online] AFC DaveS
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From: radman@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Ataru + Kyosuke = Rich 'The Rad Man' Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga,rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: rumor about Shirow
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:12:14 GMT
Organization: Studio APK

In article <1992Aug29.211147.16953@ee.rochester.edu> seah@ee.rochester.edu (David Seah) writes:
>Actually, I think his real job has nothing to do with his manga...the
>story published in Appleseed back pages has it that Shirow just does
>this on the side (!) by himself (!!)
>
	I should have clarified that in my original post. Thank you!
>-- 
>Dave Seah ^..^     | Graduate MSEE, University of Rochester, New York         |
>Resume On Request:)| Apple II Art & Graphics Forum Consultant, America Online |
>
>[Internet] seah@ee.rochester.edu, AFCDaveS@aol.com   [America Online] AFC DaveS

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From: manga@twics.co.jp
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 92 10:17:48 JST
To: rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net
Subject: Shipping charges for Manga-chan
X-Vms-Mail-To: UUCP%"rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net"

Jhemon asksWhen you say "plus $2 per volume or $10
per order," do you mean "whichever is less" or "whichever is greater"?  I.e.
if someone ordered 100 volumes, would the shipping be $10 or $200?  

For Manga-chan postage, I mean whichever is less ($2 per or $10).  So 100
volumes would be just $10.  
The reason is that postage on the first kilo has an extra surcharge,
after that postage increases at a steady rate and is figured into
the  price.
 
-bret
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:26:55 EDT
From: Steven Feldman <AR402004@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject:      Re: Homosexuality in manga (was Re: help!!!
To: rec-arts-manga <rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net>

>Homosexuality in manga (was Re: help!!!)
>From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun)
>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:15:13 GMT
>
>You may want to know that there's a manga-only newsgroup.  From BITNET, you
>can access it by the MANGA-L mailing list.  I'll post this to both newsgroups,
>with follow-ups set to rec.arts.manga.  BTW, the traffic on MANGA-L is much
>slower than here.  :-)

     Huh?  Is this MANGA-L a different bird than <rec-arts-manga@darwin.
sura.net>?  If so, how so?

>> Anyone interested in discussing why Japanese want their
>> young girls fantasizing about gay men?
>
>I don't think it's "The Japanese", as you say.  But I've noticed that
>homosexuality is as common a female fantasy as lesbianism is for males.
>That is true no matter WHERE the piece of fiction comes from.
>
>> Please respond to me directly if you like, since my guess is that most
>> of this list is not interested in these topics.  (Or I could be wrong.)

     Hey, *I* curious.

>To tell the truth, most people here (college-age
>males) are not into shojo manga at all.  Their loss.  :-)

     *Especially* since Japanese fans I know tend to think the shojo manga
are much better!  (Why hasn't Viz tried putting out any shojo manga [or
*Tezuka*, for *that* matter]?)

                          -- Steven Feldman <ar402004@brownvm.brown.edu>
From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: VPM comics
Keywords: what in the world??!!
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:30:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University


   
   
     After finally being able to read the Vampire Princess Miyu Manga,
I realized one important thing.  IT WAS BETTER WHEN I DID NOT HAVE THE
VERSION THAT I CAN NOT READ.  Could anyone please email me and tell me
what in the world in going on in the mangas?!!!  Thanks in advance...
  
                                     -TKH '92
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: Taiho! (WAS: The Amazing World of Japanese Comics)
Keywords: Fujishima/Taihoshichauzo
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: Megami Jimusho
Date:  4 Sep 92 08:43:10 GMT

chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu writes:
 >Speaking of Taiho, for those of you who lives in the bay area Oakland Asian
 >Library has vol. 1-5...

Something about Taiho Shichauzo I hadn't seen before was the short length
of stories (12 pages?).  I think it works, though.

In vol.1, Natumi is wearing a Seikima II jacket -- does this mean
there's going to be a throbbing Seikima II soundtrack for the OAV??
(^_^)


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