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From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Subject: dw on ytv - canada
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:53:10 EST

DY:

-> Dale, I do thank you for the update.  I was told of the move by YTV
-> to cancel DW from its programming last year.  This update is half
-> good news.

 Next time don't ride on programming info that's a year or more old.
You're welcome.

-> All I can say now is that we should all work to convince YTV to keep
-> Who on the air and put it on a time slot between 4:00 to 8:00.

 Ain't gonna happen.

Regards,
Dale Clayton
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From: markc@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:14:47 GMT

Dave Horlick writes:

>It seems inconceivable to me that Gallifrey would not have some device to
>prevent a TimeLord from travelling into Gallifreys past at a point not
>along that TimeLords personal timeline. Otherwise, evil TimeFolk would
>just wreak total havoc. It isn't as though we haven't seen this sort of
>mechanism before.

Not necessarily. In Rememberance of the Daleks the Doctor says that even
the Daleks would think twice about interfering with the timelines. How 
much more so an evil Time Lord. The Time Lord would be acutley aware that
he or she could endanger his/her own existence by such tamepering.
Still we don't know that there isn't a mechanism designed to prevent tampering
with Gallifrey's past.	

>>I think it is silly to suggest that the doctor is Omega or Rassilon. How
>about this scenario though. Gallifrey is suggested to be in the far
>future. What if Rassilon was a Biologist and Physist who fled from Earth
>during the solar flares? This would explain why Earth seems to be so
>important in Doctor Who. Rassilon could have altered his own and other's
>genetic structures, as well as discovered an effective Time Travel
>scheme. And of course, it might make a good episode for the doctor to
>materialize on board their ship in route to Gallifrey, who no idea that
>this person is Rassilon. To protect TimeFolks' existence Rassilon must
>have destroyed all the records surrounding Gallifrey's founding.

I don't think it has ever been suggested that Gallifrey exists in the distant
future, although various people have claimed it exists outside time. (If this
is true then maybe Invasion of Time was just a bad dream). In fact we know that
Gallifrey has been around for a very long time. In Genesis of the Daleks for 
example the Time Lord who meets the Doctor on Skaro remarks offhandedly that
the Time Lords had superceded primitive technology like matter transmitters
when the universe was less than half its present size. Also in the (non handgun
source) novel Love and War the Seventh Doctor remarks that the Time Lords had
dealings with the bad guys of that story when the earth was still forming.
Then of course there is the obvious objection that Time Lords have two hearts
and humans do not, so it is hardly likely that Rassilon came from Earth.

Mark C.
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From: tellenburg@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: I just have a question
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:59:38 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

	Greetings!  I asked awhile ago if anyone knew if it was true that they
are planning an eighth doctor.  I was not able to get back on this thing until
today.  Did anyone answer?  
	Just for opinion sake- I don't mind ACE.  Sarah Jane and Peri are the
ones I violently abhore.  Both have nil brains and cause too many problems.
	Well, I don't remember what I signed off as so I try something else.


	Timelady Rogaenon-- explorer of the Shakespearean realm

	"When to the sessions of sweet silent thought . . ." Shakespeare
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Subject: Re: Who'd make a goo Who?
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 23:31:34 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:
> By the way, share with the ignorant:  what does "smegging" mean?
> 
> Drewcifer
> (who will soon have a real .sig!)

Oh NOT AGAIN!  Maybe this should be a FAQ.  :)  Ok, look up "smegma" in the
dictionary.  That should answer all your questions. 


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"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
From: ST101229@brownvm.brown.edu (Charon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Quantum Leap = Old Dr. Who?
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:37:39 GMT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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Anyone watch Quantum Leap nowadays?  IMHO, it's extremely stupid, but most of
my friends seem to love it.
     I tried explaining why, and eventually figured out that I thought it was
a Dr. Who without the history and tradition.  If I weren't a Who fan, I'd have
all sorts of criticisms of the show...but I feel like they're exempted by the
fact that the show has _always_ been like that.  Quantum Leap, on the other
hand, started out where Dr. Who was several years ago...when it had already
been running for several years.  Opinions?

     -Charon <st101229@brownvm.brown.edu>
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Super Dave (was Re: Thanks a lot you dip . . .)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:44:52 GMT

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) wrote:
>  Hey Tom, is there ANYTHING that would make you less antagonistic??!!

Yes. Don't quote an entire article and then refer to absolutely nothing in it.
Dave you are THE worst at this. You go to the trouble to post, but never go
to the trouble to edit or proofread. I went to the trouble to post this (even
though I shouldn't have posted it at all), and I went to the trouble to edit
out all of the stuff you included which is totally irrelevent towards what I'm
going to say. Perhaps if you and some other consider that people don't need to
re-read stuff over and over when it's not even the topic.

You are THE last one to accuse someone of being antagonistic when you purposely
have jabbed at me in articles for no reason. I'm just returning the favor.
You admitted that you put your initials in your posts for the reason I
mentioned.

I would me absolutely be more than happy to devote my articles to Doctor Who if
other people would be considerate as well. Take polls, discuss the Doctors/
companions, and everything else that is new to some people and old to others,
but obey a little netiquette at the same time. Make subjects descriptive.
Edit out unnecessary text. I say remove the .sigs, but that will never happen
so I won't emphasize it. Then people like me without a 1 Megabaud modem can
skip the undesireable articles and go to the ones we want. I'm not telling
anyone what to post, but I'm asking everyone to go to a little effort when
you post.

This PLAYGROUND can be enjoyed by everyone if we maintain it. Otherwise we'll
have a trashy dump. As someone who is so concerned with organizing the group
further, you should be agreeing with my view here. However, you have a bad
habit that I already mentioned above.

I won't speak of it further. I will just ASK one last time for people to go
to the trouble to make their posts worthy of being read. I make plenty of typos
and mistakes in my posts, but I still read everyone of them TWICE before
sending it to every Usenet site in the world.

Tom
From: T.G.Nattress@newcastle.ac.uk (Graeme Nattress)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Item about The Daemons on Tomorrow's World... yesterday.
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:25:34 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes) writes:

The 1st I heard was when Dad ran up stairs saying turn over to Tomorrow's World
quick!  The I had a phone call from scotland to the same effect.....  I was in
a state of frenzy trying to get my tape ready in time....  Then I realised that
it had the write protect tab knocked out....  So then I shoved in another
tape....

> I tuned into Tomorrow's World as ususal and the first shot was of the TARDIS.
>I gulped. Being at University and not having access to a video, I was a little
>concerned... The little talk at the beginning of the show revealed that there
>would be an item about the recolouization of the Daemons. I gulped again. How
>long did I have? 1, 2 or 10 minutes. I took the risk and dashed out to the
>phone, as the show went into Patent Pending with that old duffer Bob Symes.
>  Phew! Someone was in at home.
>   "Whack a video in and tape me Tomorrow's World PLEEEEESE"

> 10 minutes later the item appeared, and I'm glad I got it taped as they showed
>how they went about it, with a split screen showing the final version on one
>side and the naff colour version on the other. I was VERY impressed with the
>quality of the picture. It seemed MUCH better than any of the other remaining
>colour Pertwees.
>  They also had the TARDIS console in the studio and it seemed to be working
>just fine and didn't look too bashed up.

>Gareth

To go into more detail on the process is unnecessary, just read Barry's article
 on the New scientist article on the Daemons...

But I will go into detail as to what it looked like.

1)It was strange!!  Neither did it look like a telerecording nor a VT
2)It looked rather as you would imagine it to.
3)The colours were slightly garish, and not all together well defined when
studied in detail, but the overall effect was pleasing.
4)With the colour being NTSC and the film being film, there looked to be a
standards conversion effect on it but not to the effect of looking as bad as ep
1 of the Sea Devils earlier in the year.
5)It will be nice to compare the cliffhangers of Ep3-4 and 4-5 to see exactly
how well the colourization is. (4 is on 2" VT)

Graeme,


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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Who'd make a good Who?
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:16:15 GMT

In article <cf2n7sK00WAL06NGYO@andrew.cmu.edu> Robert Everett Brunskill <rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I don't really follow up on actors much, but here's my input, it's not
>great, but it's just my input.
>
>For the Doctor - The guy who played Buckaroo Banzai (I can't remember
>his name), um, just a suggestion, I can't really remember seeing him in
>much else though, so I can't really elaborate at the moment.

His name is Peter Weller. Haven't you seen Robocop? Yup, that's him, in the big,
silver suit. I'd think he'd be more "suit"ed to playing a Cyberman (geddit?
SUITed? Bwahahahahaha!!! sorry. Back to the commentary.)

Oops. No more commentary here. Ah well...


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
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From: Liz%Eng%Banyan@magnolia.banyan.com
Subject: Love and War (no spoilers) (was: Re: Ace we love you (well, som
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:52:53 EST

Apologies if this gets posted twice.

danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) says:
>Again, straining to keep my mouth shut, READ LOVE AND WAR!!!!

A sentiment worth repeating.  I finished this book about a week and a half
ago, and I'm still thinking about it.  The sort of book I might even 
recommend to someone completely ignorant of Who.

Excellent characterization, excellent story.  Paul Cornell manages to make
the Doctor someone we can actually identify with without making him too
"human" (a real talent, I think).

This book really packed a wallop for me.  I just received _Timewyrm:
Revelation_ in the mail yesterday (from Waterstone's in Bath, whose 
address I can give to anyone who wants it), and I'm really looking forward
to it.

Liz
(who really regrets tuning in to the "smeg" discussion over lunch ;-))
lizb@banyan.com
 


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From: ecohn@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: YOUR STORY
Organization: Purdue University, Indianapolis
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:12:21 -0500

In article <4223.130.uupcb@ssr.com>, doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes)  writes:
> 
> Interestingly enough, I have been posting my Doctor Who: ST:TNG Story
> for the past few days in the RIME Doctor Who conference. Though it bears
> no resemblence to yours-- mine is with the 7th Doctor and Ace...
> However, Wesley Crusher, Picard, Riker, Data, Worf, Troi, La Forge,
> O'Brien, etc.. are all there! If anyone wants to read it, I'll post it
> ALL at once.... But let me know if you are interested. (On the Rime

Oh yeah, I'm interested.  Any chance you could e-mail me a copy of it?

Ellen - the crime doctor
ECOHN@indyvax.iupui.edu
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: ytv
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:48:23 EST

I just read the Woodsman's message...didn't know about the 2:30 (which
is better than nothing)...so I'll check it out.  BTW, if you need letter
writers, I am long-winded, as you, apparently, have figured out for
yourself.
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From: kausch@med.umich.edu (David Kausch)
Subject: Re: Who'd make THE BEST Who???
Originator: kausch@bailey.math.lsa.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:33:20 GMT


In article <1992Nov19.123723.6444@gw.wmich.edu>, 92anderson@gw.wmich.edu writes:
|> 
|>  Conspicuously absent in postings I have read so far is the name of Peter
|>  O'Toole.  While I agree that the part of the Dr. not be played by an 
|>  American, perhaps it could be successfully done by a non-British European.
|>  (Sean Connery?)  Or perhaps by a woman. (Blasphemy?) Or even a man dressed 
                                     -----
|>  up as a woman! (Eric Idle?)  Ha!  Seriously though, I think Peter O'Toole
|>  would be cool. Or Michael Caine.  (Who said Twiggy?!?!)  :)
|> 
|> 					J.C. Anderson

As for DW being played by a woman, I think that raises some interesting 
possibilities, but if a Gallifrian could regenerate in the opposite sex, why
would they have the terms "time-lord/time-lady?"   This terminology may all be
the fault of some 1960's writer for the BBC, but let's ignore that, let's
suppose that some semblance of an identity remains after each regeneration
(although even this idea seems to generate a lot of talk on this network).
This is not to say that one's identity is determined by one's sex, it just
seems that (at least genetically/biologocially if not sociologically) sex is
determined by one's identity.  Does that make any sense at all?  Does the
same connection between sex and identity hold for humans?  Now there's a 
potentially hot question for you.

p. de terre
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From: epc@cs.nott.ac.uk (Elvis Presley's Corpse)
Subject: Dr Who On BBC2 This Morning
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:29:17 GMT

I flicked on to BBC2 this morning and found the Doctor (Sylvester
McCoy), Ace and K9 on a program called Thinkabout Science.  If you
didn't see it you didn't miss anything; it's just a children's
educational program.  The bit I saw had the Doctor asking K9, "What's
red, orange, yellow, blue and white?" or something like that.

Did anyone else see this?  Are they on this regularly or was it a one
off appearance?

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From: rkvidyar@eos.ncsu.edu (RAMAN KUMAR VIDYARTHI)
Subject: Re: Who'd make a goo Who?
Originator: rkvidyar@c00004-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: rkvidyar@eos.ncsu.edu (RAMAN KUMAR VIDYARTHI)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:29:09 GMT


|>
|>Yeah yeah. And Peri is such a convincing American. What's the difference?
|>Would the doctor approve of such silly national distinctions? Frankly,
|>I'd like to see him played by James Earl Jones.
|>
Interesting.....He'd sure have to work out though if he had to do action
parts.  
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From: walsh@via.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Limits on TARDIS travel (Was Re: The Doctor is...)
Reply-To: walsh@via.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:53:39 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.042404.20655@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, markc@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>>>There's at least one episode contradicting this... in _Castrovalva_, the
>>>Master sends the TARDIS back to "Event One, the hydrogen inrush", i.e.,
>>>the Big Bang, the start of time.  I would assume, if this is the start
>>>of the universe, that it is before the Gallifreyans/Time Lords [no, I'm
>
>This is a common error. The event one described in Castrovalva was not the
>Big Bang. It was the creation of the Galaxy from a Hydrogen inrush (well
>this is a novel approach to galatic astrophysics). There is a big difference
>between the Big Bang and this event of Galaxy formation.

When was this said in the story?  Didn't Nyssa say that they were "headed for 
the biggest explosion in history"?

___________________________________________________________________________
Thomas Walsh 		walsh@via.enet.dec.com		Nashua, NH

:opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employers
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: PLanet of the Daleks
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:28:19 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

otten@quark.umd.edu (Neil Ottenstein) writes:

- This weekend I just saw Planet of he Daleks and I was wondering what the
- details are about the "missing" episode in this story.  I believe it is
- the third episode in the story.  From what I could gather from the other
- episodes the Doctor manages to escape from his holding cell in the city,
- passes the giant refrigeration unit, and maybe some other things happen
- as well.  If anyone has some good details on just what did happen I
- would like to know.  I was quite surprised that it seemed that I didn't
- miss all that much.
-
- Thanks,
-
- Neil Ottenstein
- otten@quark.umd.edu

  Not only are you missing episode 3, but also part of episode 4.  Reason:
Episode 3 is in black and white.  About 15 months ago, I put the spoilers to
that.  Did anyone manage to file that away??

You get the picture.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
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Subject: Re: Dracula
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 11:49:31 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason) writes:
> 	Hopkins however, must resist the temptattion to go OTT.after Dracula,
> 	imagine it, Hopkins vs Alan Rickman (Robin Hood:Prince of thieves) as
>       the ba
> 
> Jason
 
Oooo that would be intersting, Alan Rickman as the Master.  Wonderful 
possibilities there.

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From: G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: TARDIS ASCII?
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:43:47 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

labaks@emory.edu (Abraham Song) writes:

>Dear Who Fans...
>
>	Does anyone on this newsgroup have any ascii of the Doctor's
>	Tardis?

 OK, here you go...

------------cut here------------------------------------------------------------


              V-WORP!
              V-WORP!
              V-WORP!


------------cut here------------------------------------------------------------


  Oops!! Too late, he's gone again!!

Gareth
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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:57:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <Bxs4yJ.1p3@acsu.buffalo.edu> perl@acsu.buffalo.edu (David T Perl) writes:



>	I just saw the new Dracula movie the other day and after watching it I
>feel that Anthony Hopkins would make a good Doctor Who.  Has anyone else seen
>it yet and agree with me?

>-- 
>			     ---David---
>			perl@acsu.buffalo.edu
>"If I knew everything that was going to happen, where would all the fun be."
>		           ---The Doctor---

Oh, definitely.  The more I see of Hopkins the more I admire him...his Van
Helsing was absolutely delightful, bringing three-dimensional, fascinating
life to a character who was, in the original novel, somewhat
two-dimensional.  Then again, although it was a most brilliant novel, all
the characters were pretty two-dimensional, excepting (amazingly) Renfield.

Yes, I think Hopkins would make an excellent Doctor...on the following
conditions.

1) JNT either gets a clue or shoves off.

2) The direction improves.

3) The scriptwriting improves *considerably*.

It would be embarrassing to watch someone like Hopkins in the recent
adventures...as embarrassing as it was watching another brilliant actor,
Sean Connery, try to do his best with the indescribably atrocious Highlander
2.  Yuck!  A great actor with bad material is heartbreaking to watch.
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Who'd make a goo Who?
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:59:23 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov16.152106.8756@iscsvax.uni.edu> morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:


>Denholm Elliot, Rowan Atkinson (who would name their child Rowan?), Hugh 


>Later

>Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
>morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

>But then, who would name their kid Siobahn?

Hey, I *like* the name Rowan!

But then, I like the name Siobahn as well...

By the way, share with the ignorant:  what does "smegging" mean?

Drewcifer
(who will soon have a real .sig!)