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From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: Video on standard CD's?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:11:38 GMT

trussell@unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
> Speaking of this, I noticed in the latest Radio Shack flyer that they're
> touting something called "VES" (for Video Entertainment System) that looks
> a WHOLE lot like CD-I, and saying that hundreds of titles will be released
> for it by the end of 1992, etc etc...
 
VIS (Video Information System) is the brainchild of Tandy and Microsoft.
The "VIS" logo is supposed to remind consumers of "VHS."  <cough>

> So is this baby CD-I under a different name, or a whole new machine?

It's based on early MPC specs, so it has an 80286... with fast video access and
some custom video modes.  The idea is that MS Windows developers can quickly
fix up their MPC CD-ROM titles with larger text and avoid TV overscan areas,
then end up with CDs which work on both the VIS and MPC systems.  Ie: great
for developers in the short term since Tandy is buying early titles, but
I'm not sure who'd actually buy a VIS instead of a full MPC computer system.

> If it's not CD-I I think I'd avoid it like the plague, especially at $700.
> Talk about your orphans when CD-I dominates...
 
Yep.  Or even if MPC specs get updated again.

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu> <76703.4227@compuserve.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.arts.tv,rec.video.production
From: bladin@wam.umd.edu (Ilana J. Getz)
Subject: Re: Great Simpsons Quote from 11/3/92 episode
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:43:52 GMT


>	As for quality, Betamax is, in general, a better format than VHS.
>We're not talking a magnitude of difference here, but enough to make a
>difference to a videophile.  BetaCam, a professional television
>production format, is higly superior to certain other profesisonal
>tape formats such as 3/4" Umatic and Hi8, but it pales next to M2,
>D2 or even 1".  It is, generally, cheaper than those better systems,
>however, and the results are most acceptable, so yes, it is very
>common, especially in local television news departments. 
>	
I would not go so far as to say that Betacam "pales" next to M2, or even
1" or D2 for that matter. 
First of all, Betacam is component (as is M2), D2 and 1" are not. This
provides for less artifacting than one gets with the composite formats.
Also, while M2 may have a slightly better image quality than Betacam, it
is not better than Beta SP. Finally, I would love to know where you are buying
Betacam equipment cheaper than M2...
The broadcast Beta gear is much more expensive than M2, and MUCH more 
widely used. Go into a dozen post houses and see how many Beta machines
you find, versus M2...
I know many editors who prefer Beta SP over 1" or D2, simply because they
can stay in a component domain.

Dave Bittner

From: rog@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roger Haaheim)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:55:23 GMT
Subject: How come?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.video

How come when I search backward on my Sony VCR
the sound volume is temporarily lowered?  It's
back up to the previous setting after about a
minute.
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.video
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:22:47 -0500 
From: Luis Abdon Cifuentes <lc0v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Surround receivers recommendation?

I am looking for a surround receiver with pro-logic. The JVCs (507, 707,
etc) seems ok. Any comments on their quality and reliability? 
Is there any difference in the implementation of the dolby decoder?
From: oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: "Trinitone"
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:43:41 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Nov17.154940.25565@bnr.ca>, dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer) writes:
 
> I played with the Trinitone adjustment on my friends 4 year old XBR, and
> I couldn't see any difference.
> 
> The Panasonic GAOOs with the superflat screens have a color temperature
> adjustment that adjusts between 'Cool', 'Normal' and 'Warm'.  I can see
> only a very slight difference in the whites.

I think something needs clarification here. The human eye/mind perceives quite
a range of colors as "white" and it's really about impossible to tell the
difference between 6500K and 7500K with the naked eye. (At least mine.) What is
perceived is a feeling of extra brightness, or "Whiter than white" in terms of
it's contrast with dark areas.

The real problem is in the rest of the color spectrum. The imperceptable shift
in white tempurature can be VERY percepable in some other colors. And if the
white is off, all colors will be off. It really takes a CIE color chart to
understand what happens.

I suggest a look at the latest TPV which includes a CIE chart and a good
description of what it means and how it relates to what you see when white is
not correct.

R. Kevin Oberman			Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Internet: koberman@llnl.gov		(510) 422-6955

Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing
and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mullen@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Preston Mullen)
Subject: Re: Great Simpsons Quote from 11/3/92 epis
Reply-To: mullen@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Organization: Information Technology Division, Naval Research Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:48:36 GMT

What's the potential resolution of a Betacam recording?
Is it better than the ~400 lines of SVHS and Hi8,
or is Betacam's value not in extra lines of resolution
but in more accurate color, etc.?

Thanks,

	Preston Mullen
	Naval Research Laboratory
	Washington DC
From: jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Universal Remote
Date: 20 Nov 1992 14:42:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov18.191927.5194@colorado.edu> you write:
>I have owned the Memorex- Turbo 8 for over a year and I really like it.
>The only thing that would improve it is to have lighted keys-- You
>can program in sequences of key strokes once you have taught it the remote
>functions-- for instance I have programmed in the key strokes to
>
>turn on my surround amp,switch the monitor out to laser disc input,switch the
>processing mode to surround, switch my television on, switch the channel
>to video1,switch the tv speaker to the dolby center mode,place my LD player
>in play mode. The remote executes all these functions with only 2 button
>pushes. I have also programmed in sequences to deal with the menu stuff
>on the tv--This remote is a couch potatoes best friend. I need only to be
>able to throw a laser disc onto the open drawer of my LD player and I
>would never have to get up :-)

I've been searching for a good remote control for a LONG time,
and have yet to find one that might fit all my needs.  Perhaps
you can tell me if this Memorex 8 does the job.

- TV Remote
- VCR
- Satellite
- A/V Receiver (with over 40 AVR specific buttons!)
- CD Player
- Cassette Deck
- DAT
- Laserdisc
- Good range (~30 feet, bounce off walls, etc.)
- System calls (sequences of AT LEAST 10 commands)
- LCD labelling (not just a collection of ICONS, but user
  define/create ability)
- Timer Functions
- Large memory (I've tried many Universal Remotes out, and NONE of
  them have been able to handle even half of the necessary
  commands.)

In addition.  I'm planning on adding sometime in the new year: DCC,
Subwoofer, another DAT, and a Superguide addition to the
satellite.   When I start redesigning my A/V room I hope to add-in 
remote control lights, and maybe even a theromstat.
 
I have heard of those FOX LCD remotes, but haven't seen any in
action.  Am I dreaming, and no one will ever make a remote that
can even handle half of my requirements?

Also, does anyone have one of those Powermid whole-house Infrared
Remote controls?  I have my A/V signal channelled throughout the
house, and would like to control the main units from anywhere.

jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca      |  "It's better than bad,it's good!"
                           |             - Log(tm) by Blammo!
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: avfilm@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (W. Mark Ritchie)
Subject: HDTV Implementation timetable
Keywords: HDTV, Timetable
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:43:06 GMT

The FCC has set the following timetable for HDTV implementation.
 1) Announcement of Standard - June/July 1993
 2) Existing Broadcasters have Two years to apply for HDTV Licence and
Frequency allocation.  Non-existing bodies may apply after this period.
 3) HDTV Licencees have 3 years to construct HDTV facility
 4) HDTV Licencees must attain 50% simulcast with existing service by
year 2000
 5) HDTV Licencees must attain 100% HDTV service by year 2008 and
surrender NTSC frequencies for re-allocation to other services.

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Media Library                  Fax   :  (519) 888-6197
Audio Visual Centre
University of Waterloo         E-Mail:  avfilm@Watserv1.UWaterloo.Ca
200 University Ave West
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.arts.tv,rec.video.production
Subject: Re: Great Simpsons Quote from 11/3/92 episode
Date: 21 Nov 92 05:03:50 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <BxxGDu.4Bt@mail.boi.hp.com> riyadth@boi.hp.com (Riyadth Al-Kazily) writes:
<In article <4439@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<>In another of Sony's blunders, they used the name BetaCam more than once.  The
<>first product was a home consumer camcorder, that recorded in the Beta format.
<>It never did good and died.  In Sony's wisdom, the name got used again for a
<>professional product that used Beta-like tape, but wasn't in the home Beta
<>format.  The tape only lasted 20 minutes, was a different formulation, and
<>separated the luminance and chrominance & recorded them on separate video
<>tracks.
<
<Wasn't the consumer camcorder line called BetaMovie?  I'm pretty sure that
<I remember it that way, but I could be wrong.  I certainly don't remember
<BetaCam associated with any consumer model equipment.

I also remember it being called BetaCam.  But you are right about the
BetaMovie.  I forgot about that name.

But I believe that BetaCam still tends to get mixed up in the old Beta
camcorder that Sony used to have.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hansel@convex.com (Kevin Hansel)
Subject: What's wrong with IDTV?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:54:29 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

First let me preface this by saying that I know very little about
TV's and video.  I'm just someone asking a question about what I
saw....


I'm curious as to why IDTV's don't seem to be very popular at the
moment.  A couple of years ago, several manufacturers were selling
them and then suddenly they dropped them from their product lines.  I've 
heard explanations ranging from manufacturing problems to their inability to 
display fast motion without jerkiness.  Other explanations suggested that 
their picture quality was 'hard' or unrealistic.

I do know that there are a few IDTV's on the market today.  In fact
I saw one this afternoon - a Toshiba CZ3299Z ($1300).  I only got to 
look at it for about 10 minutes, but I came away very impressed with it.
For comparison, it was set up next to one of the brand new Sony 
32XBR35's ($1798). 

I immediately noticed the IDTV's photographic-like quality; there
were no visible scan lines and the colors were *extremely* solid.
Compared to the IDTV, the Sony XBR looked very grainy - the scan
lines were very noticeable in comparison.  I was pretty amazed
at how much more vivid and 'film-like' the IDTV was.  I must say 
that my first 10 minute impression of the IDTV was that it was a 
*much* better picture than any of the other TV's on display.  
I was watching a broadcast football game and the colors of the 
jerseys and helmets were so much better (more dense - much less grainy).
When the superimposed graphics of the score and network logo were
put up on the screen, the IDTV made them look unbelievably vivid - the 
XBR really paled in comparison.

My question is: What is wrong with IDTV ??? 

From what I could see, IDTV has the potential of making standard 
TV's obsolete.  The difference in image quality appeared to be that 
much better to me.  But many dealers continue to put down IDTV.
I didn't notice any 'jerkiness' in the football game I was watching.
(But I did notice that I could read the football field numbers 
on the IDTV whereas they were just smudges on the Sony).  The IDTV didn't 
appear to be hard or unrealistic at all.  I guess I just can't see why the
IDTV isn't a far superior TV to any non-IDTV set.  Can anyone shed
some light on this for me?  Since I only saw the set for about 10 minutes,
I must of missed some glaring fault...???

Thanks in advance!

Kevin Hansel
hansel@convex.com
From: kfriedman@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: TOSHIBA 35" OPINIONS!
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:42:46 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

I've just bought a Toshiba model 3572B TV.  I can't believe I've switched from
a lifetime of SONY's, but I wanted the larger tube.  I've always liked the
looks of Toshiba video--it reminds me of Sony....it has that "technically
incorrect" *bluish* look that I like.  Anyway, does anyone out there own this
model now...or perhaps last year's 3566A?  I'd like to know your
opinions.Thanks!

	Jay
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Protecting laserdiscs
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:40:47 GMT

In article <36w1pc=@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>Where can I buy the laserdisc (or LP) protective jacket?

Many LD dealers sell them but my favorite source is a
dealer who specializes in all sorts of envelopes, boxes, labels, etc.
for vinyl, cassette, even OPEN REEL tape!  He has a selection of several
kinds of envelopes.  Prices below were correct as of 4/92:

*CABCO 614-267-8468 or 614-263-0284 record/LD jackets & liners. Box
8212, 33 East 4th Ave., Columbus OH 43201. MASTERCARD/VISA/AMERICAN
EXPRESS.  Most Common: #12-PO (polyethylene snug outer jacket, 12 inch)
$0.30 singles, $0.25 ea for 50-200; #12-S (poly-lined paper inside
sleeve, 12 inch) $0.30 singles, $0.23 ea for 50-200; #12-ASP
(polypropylene self-sealing outer protectors, 2 mill, 12 inch) 
$0.50 singles, $0.35 ea for 50-200.

=============================================================
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    Bill Cruce, INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu, VOICE: 216-325-2511
   N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown OH 44272-0095
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From: samblane@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sean Samblanet)
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.wanted,misc.forsale,dc.forsale,misc.forsale.wanted
Subject: WANTED: Used 8mm Camcorder.
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:07:00 GMT
Reply-To: samblane@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sean Samblanet)
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


    I am looking for a small 8mm camcorder (like the Sony CCD-TR5) in
the $300-400 price range.

Thanks in advance,t
Sean
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kamal@cc.gatech.edu (Kamal Karlapalem)
Subject: Graduating Sale: Mitsubishi VCR UX-50.
Reply-To: kamal@cc.gatech.edu (Kamal Karlapalem)
Organization: College of Computing / Georgia Tech
Distribution: ga
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:06:37 GMT


****************************************************************
MITSUBISHI HS-U50 VHS VCR    ($350.00 bought it for $525.00) 

 4 head, SAP/HI-FI stereo, Auto Tracking, 181 channel tuner,
Index Search, Speed and High Speed Search, Audio and Video input/output, 
Program Recording for 4 weeks like same programs every week or day, 
cable compatible, on-screen programming with/without remote. 
With original box and operational manual. Sparingly used. Mostly
as the tuner for the TV.
Equivalent to UX-56 that retails for $450.00.

Mitsubishi makes one of the finest VCRs, a real quality product.
An ideal second VCR for the house, or if you want to 
upgrade your old VCR. 
I would have not sold this VCR, but I will be leaving country
to a place with incompatible broadcast medium.
****************************************************************



Please Call 404-875-2913.

Kamal.

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kamal@cc.gatech.edu                     Kamalakar Karlapalem

Database Research Laboratory,           College Of Computing, 
Georgia Institute Of Technology,        Atlanta, GA 30332-0280.                  
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From: aq456@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Wanted:  Contact with EVS-3000 owner
Date: 15 Nov 1992 16:04:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


If you own a Sony EVS-3000 Hi8 VCR, would you please contact me
by email.  I have a question about one of the functions.  Thank
you.
-- 
                                    Terry Quinn
                                     Germantown Hills, IL
                                      tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
                                       aq456@cleveland.freenet.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
Subject: How Accurate Is Enough?
Organization: Taligent
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:27:33 GMT

I'm interested in how much accuracy is enough for video editing.  It seems you
can get +-3 frames with consumer level gear (e.g., TR101 and SLV-R5 by Sony),
but beyond that you really need to go up in $$ to Pro level or just below (e.g.,
V801 and E-700 and SLV-R5 or the Vdeck, etc...).

What I am trying to do beforehand, which admittedly may not be very effective,
is to make the best attempt at determining what level of editing accuracy is
needed before making the investment.  Since I've seen both consumer and
professional equipment discussed in this group, it would be interesting to hear
how people feel about dead-on, frame-accurate editing.  Is it essential to do
any worthwhile editing, or can you really notice +-1 vs. +-3 frames (Sony's
"Super Accurate" level).

Thanks,
Jay
Jay_Tobias@Taligent.com
From: werstln@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael Werstlein)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Disc Quality?
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:45:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation, Santa Clara

I just bought a laser disc player and am wanting to start
a collection of movies.  As everyone knows, most discs 
average between $30 and $50.  I was just wondering if the
discs that Columbia House sells are the same quality (video
and sound) as the discs that are sold in stores?

Thanks,

Mike Werstlein
Go Portland Trail Blazers!!!
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Re: jvc & sony which is bette
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: rec
Date: 17 Nov 1992 11:45 EST  

In article <1992Nov17.4246.19286@dosgate>, "tony camara" <tony.camara@canrem.com> writes...
>JVc is great but don't forget panasonic is also right in ther. Sony
>never . They have always been over price . They seem to think there to
>good but there wrong . Remeber these are the same guy's who told you
>beta was good,beta was not going to die . Also rember they told you they
>would never make vhs vcr's ever the last two year''s they still told the
>people beta was doing fine when in reallity beta was dying a slow death.
>Now they wan't to try it again with 8mmIf sony didn't have there heads
>shoved so far up there *** they would be great . Oh well to bad !

Overpriced?  No.  Somewhat more expensive.  Yes.

It's like buying a car.  If you buy a Yugo (i.e., VHS), of course it will 
be cheap..in every sense of the word.

Beta is not dead!  

>--
>Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
>World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044


Greg
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                         ED-Beta: Simply THE BEST!
"ED Beta is simply the best consumer videotape format available."
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Great Simpsons Quote from 11/3/92 epis
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:28:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: vidiot.4449
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <Bxu250.n3w@ra.nrl.navy.mil> mullen@itd.nrl.navy.mil writes:
<What's the potential resolution of a Betacam recording?
<Is it better than the ~400 lines of SVHS and Hi8,
<or is Betacam's value not in extra lines of resolution
<but in more accurate color, etc.?

If you mean consumer Betacam, it is no better than the average consumer
beta VCR.

If you mean the pro BetaCamSP system, then it is higher quality than S-VHS
and Hi8 in both luminance and color.
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From: hal@radio.wkar.msu.edu (Hal Prentice)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Proton VT-296 mod?
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:56:23 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Broadcasting Services, Michigan State University

In article <1992Nov13.142428.14922@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
>Subject: Re: Proton VT-296 mod?
>Date: 13 Nov 92 14:24:28 GMT
>

>Another series that *nobody* seems to have is the ORIGINAL
>David Letterman "Morning Show", which aired for a while before 
>the current Late Night show started.  I would love to see what
>that thing looked like... (and yes, I already have multiple
>copies of the fake morning show he did on Late Night :)

I'm speaking before looking, but I may have an old Beta tape of Letterman's 
morning show recorded back around 1980 or 1981.  I put all my Beta tapes in 
storage and I know I had one of the morning shows until I junked the Beta 
format a couple of years ago.  I will have a look sometime (please don't 
rush me!)  If I still have it, I have the capability of transferring it to 
VHS.

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