From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Homophobes in the Military..what nobody is talking about: (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about: )
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:09:58 GMT
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
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Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA

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In article <1992Dec19.210752.13344@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:
]In article <1992Dec19.164707.7275@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com writes:
]
]>I recognize the obligation to discuss these things with children. However,
]>I have NO obligation to recognize all lifestyles as normal/acceptable.
]>I don't believe homosexual couples should be able to adopt children.
]>[flame suit on] This means that I don't feel that homosexual couples
]>are a good place to raise kids (and NOT because I fear that the kids
]>will be turned gay). 
]
]    Why do you feel this way?  Gut feeling?  Opinion?  According to a study
]recently conducted by the Univ. of Virginia-Charlottesville, children of
]openly lesbian couples have no more difficulties in social skills or other
]adaptations than those raised by het couples.  The study's author states
]"The results suggest that it is the quality of parenting rather than the
]sexual orientation of parents that is important for children's
]development".
]   Now, aren't you glad you have some real facts?

I don't know about you, but I don't accept a single study in the
rather dubious field of sociology as a "fact." Sociologists have sold
us a lot of crap over the years, and their internal disagreements
are pretty strong. I'll bet that the Maharishi has some pet sociologists
that can prove that TM prevents VD. So what?

]>Of course this is the same problem as voluntary prayer. However, since
]>the goal is "sex ed" (whatever that is these days), it is considered
]>okay to inflict this on kids even if it goes against their religion
]>or their parents' wishes. And hey, sex ed must be important... look at
]>how well it works: Unwanted pregnancies are at a record rate; VD is
]>increasing rapidly. 
]
]    Please.  The reason these things are happening is that our country has
]been under the sex-phobic policies of Ron and George for 12 years.  Sex ed

Gee, is that why we have much more sex ed than we had 30 years ago,
when the VD rate and unwanted pregnancy rate were much, much lower?

]isn't nearly what it should be, because of the conservative view that sex
]ed encourages sexuality.  Before 1980 these rates were decreasing.

You mean that RR causes teenagers to go out and be promiscuous? I didn't
know he was that powerful. Don't you think it might be the dramatic
increase in sexually oriented on primetime network TV that might have something
to do with it.

]    But, I'm sure you'll be glad to know, Clinton's appointment for Surgeon
]General is *very* pro-birth-control-in-high-schools and vehement on
]substantive sex ed.  

Thank goodness I send my kid to a Catholic school. It does, in fact,
have sex ed, but it also includes moral teachings with it. I doubt
the Clinton liberals will allow it - how much you wanna bet that
any federal sex ed will have rules attached to it that the teachings
be "value neutral" (ie, liberal values)?

]	There will no doubt be a change in both of the
]statistics you cite above, and it will be for the better.  And these
]policies will go through despite the "sex ed should occur in the home"
]crowd's objections, because, as you point out, it doesn't occur.

I don't object to sex ed in school, but I object to the way it is done
(value neutral).
]
]>Never underestimate the abilities of the social engineers to rationalize
]>their impositions on others.
]
]    If thorough sex ed occurred in the home, none of this would be
]necessary.

If values based education occurred in the public schools, sex ed would
perhaps achieve its desired goals (ie, reduced VD, reduced pregnancy,
reduced promiscuity... oops, I guess the latter is no longer an allowed
goal of public schools - no wonder the other goals fail.)
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