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From: ckunz@src4src.linet.org
Subject: Re: WENZ "107.9 the End" Cleveland, and other Alternative Radio
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: The Source for Source
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:16:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.092536.6375@gagme.chi.il.us> mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael
A. Cornell) writes:
>
>	Let me put it this way....WENZ is almost there.  Recently, they
>have been playing some stuff which is not "modern rock".  For instance, I
>heard Guns N Roses at about 2 A.M. last night while studying for finals.
>They have also been playing some early U2, and I even heard Black Crowes
>once. This hasn't been happening often, mind you, but two weeks ago,
>however, they were not playing this music.  I'm guessing that they are
>trying to ween the public on to alternative music by playing stuff they
>already have heard, and hoping that they like the stuff they haven't heard
>before.  
>
>	Just wondering, does anyone know how WPST 97.5 in Trenton, NJ is
>doing ratings wise.  I go to school in Cleveland, and WPST is the sation I
>listen to when I go home.  They seened to be making a big push to expand
>their market during the summer, and I was wondering if it worked.  BTW,
>WPST has a radio show on Friday nights called "Post Modern PST", which was
>three hours of modern/alternative rock.  Is this what a REAL
>alternative/modern rock station is supposed to be playing? 

I was in Philly this past summer, and PST was still doing the Top 40 format
with a modern lean.  103.9 WIBF now simulcasts WDRE, LI's modern rocker,
which may be stealing PST's audience...

I've always considered WDRE a true modern rock station, we didn't always
call it modern rock, used to be known as "new music" in the old WLIR days.
Recently, I've heard some odd things on DRE, like Tom Petty... granted he
was mistakenly labeled as a punk rocker early in his career, and it was
early Petty they were playing... but still, Petty shouldn't be on DRE.
Neither should Robbie Robertson ("Showdown at Big Sky") or Dire Straits
("Twisting By the Pool" I believe).  A big "yes" to Nirvana, Pearl Jam,
Alice in Chains, Depeche Mode, Clash, and a cast of thousands (gotta love
that Rock of the 80's lunch!)

Now, what about WXRT, KROQ, KITS, WHFS...?

Chuck
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From: eamon@netcom.com (Charles E Taggart)
Subject: Re: Joe Frank
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:07:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.081520.7719@gagme.chi.il.us> cpack@wang.com 
(Chris Pack) writes:
>Anybody out there know anything about Joe Frank?  He (until recently)
>had a radio show on Sunday nights.  I'm not sure exactly which station,
>but it was a pretty cool show and he seems to have gone off the air.
>Any info would be appreciated.

I work as a music programmer at KCRW, the station where Joe produces his
show.  I'm NOT speaking officially for the station, but I thought I'd pass
on what I know:

Joe's currently on "hiatus", while he works on some filmed versions of his
work.  I'm not sure what the distribution situation for the show is, if the
network is sending reruns or what, but we're not running anything on KCRW
for the time being, and we will undoubtedly start up again when Joe's ready
to produce again.

Like I said, this isn't an official pronouncement, but this is what I tell
listeners when they call.  For more details, you should probably call KCRW
during West Coast business hours at (310) 450-5183.

Cheers,
Chuck

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From: Robert Carpenter <rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov>
Subject: Whither Beautiful Music??
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:43:55 GMT

Whither Beautiful Music (BM) ???  And how about pop and big band music from
the 30s and 40s...

Here in the Washington, D.C., area, the last BM station (WGAY) has gone Lite
Rock. I can't say they were all that great as a BM station, having had the
secret of sounding automated, even when they weren't. We've had a few tries
at 30s/40s pops and big bands (here called BB). The present one is WWDC-FM,
which is fairly pure in AM drive, but becomes more Lite Roack when they go
to their satellite format.

In the surrounding area, even Lite Rock/BM WFRE in Frederick has switched to
full service country music - moving from their AM (WFMD), which went talk.
WWMD, Hagerstown, is reasonably pure BM, and covers the northern DC suburbs.
WCEI-AM in Easton (Eastern Shore of Chesapeake Bay) is mostly REAL BB, with
live local hosts on Saturday morning, automated other times. Their quality
is awful, grossly over-compressed, two tape carts at once, muffled sound....
They would cover this side of the bay as well, except for their null toward
Manassas, where the cochannel station have been dark for years.

Bob rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov


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From: cee@wshb.csms.com (Ed Evans - HBS/WSHB Sr Station Mgr)
Subject: Paul Harvey on SW ? Please re-post .
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: WSHB, Herald Broadcasting Syn., Inc., Cypress Creek, SC, USA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:24:48 GMT


	Hello, everyone.  Last week, someone posted a list of times and
frequencies for the Paul Harvey new broadcasts on SW.  Please, e-mail or
re-post this list for me.  I will be travelling out of the states next
month, and would like to try to keep up via Mr. Harvey's news commentary.
Thanks,
ED
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From: rchrd@netcom.com (Richard Friedman)
Subject: Re: Pacifica Radio Network
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Applied Parallel Rsrch (Berkeley)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:26:40 GMT

rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.051957.16463@gagme.chi.il.us>, book@owlnet.rice.edu
>(Robert Aaron Book) writes:
>|> Pacifica is definitely a network.  The network was started quite
>|> some time ago, with funding for many years from, of all places, the KGB.
>|> (You know, the Russian folks.)

>I've never heard this before.  Where is this documented?

This is total BullKrap!  An attempt at sarcasm I suppose on the part of
Mr.Book.   Pacifica was started in 1949 at KPFA in berkeley by a number of
pacifists. It was the first listener sponsored station, and one of the first
FM stations.

At the time it began, so few people has FM radios that the station started
giving them away.  It soon grew to add WBAI and KPFK in the late 50's, then
KPFT Houston and WPFW in Wash. DC.  Along the way it established the news
service which comes out of NY and Washington and is distributed to many
affiliated stations.  Pacifica stations have their own special character and
are quite independent of each other.  They of course take a "progressive"
political and cultural point of view and try to balance the generally
extreme conservativism and commercialism of most other media.  However, I
should note that Caspar Weinberger was once a commentator on KPFA, giving
the conservative view of the news.  

But KGB support, never.  Pacifica has been critical of both the USA and
USSR thru the cold war by presenting commentators of all stripes.  Pacifica
itself has no political affiliation except to be an alternative voice.
Political advicacy is not part of its charter.   

For many areas that are able to receive Pacifica programs, it is the lone
voice of alternative ideas in opposition to the default paradigm.

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From: phaedrus@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (James Hartman, Sysop)
Subject: Re: Pacifica Radio Network
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:30:43 GMT


book@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert Aaron Book) writes:

> Pacifica is definitely a network.  The network was started quite
> some time ago, with funding for many years from, of all places, the KGB.
> (You know, the Russian folks.)  This might account for its presence on
> alt.conspiracy.  It used to sound a lot like Radio Habana-Cuba (on
>shortwave) still does.  With the end of Communism, this has all changed.  The
>Pacifica station here in Houston claims to be listener-supported.  It is
>still very left-wing, but this has a different meaning now -- mainly
>environmentalism, feminism, "multiculturalism," etc., rather than economic
>and foreign-affairs stuff.  Oddly, the Pacifica station here also broadcasts
>American Public Radio (APR) offerings such as BBC Newshour (tape-delay)
>(distributed by APR) and speakers at the Commonwealth Club.    


Just a quick note to say that although Mr. Book will shortly be receiving 
mail from me on the subject (and, I'm sure, I will be receiving mail 
back), KPFT/Houston is most assuredly listener-sponsored.  I've seen 
pirate broadcasters that are better equipped (ahem).  Also, the recent 
programming changes (and I do mean recent; as of December 1, 1992!) have 
nothing to do with the end of Communism (which is alive and well in many 
parts of the world, thank you), they are an attempt by the new staff to 
give the station block format programming.

Also, I don't find it odd at all that KPFT (or any other station) would 
run APR (including the BBC and Monitor Radio) - I'd trust those two 
sources before I'd trust anyone else to tell me what's news and what 
isn't.  And, yes, I'm one of those leftists who works at KPFT.  I spin 
evil, satanic rock records by ELO, Tom Petty, Oingo Boingo, and Laurie 
Anderson, and I run Monitor Radio and Fresh Air off of the satellite in 
the morning.  Oh yeah, and those opposing viewpoints aired on KPFT - 
while I don't agree with everything said on KPFT or Pacifica (and who 
would?!), I'm sure glad I have the chance to be able to listen to KPFT.  
It is a LOT better than the commercialized stuff I get on the other 
frequencies in Houston (IMHO).

Quasi-flame off.

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From: george@epsilon.ee.ufl.edu (George L)
Subject: Re: Vacuum Tube Valves
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: EE Dept at UF
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:31:24 GMT


In article kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>In article george@delta.ee.ufl.edu (George L) writes:
>>In article hoffman@n3cvl.pgh.pa.us (Bob Hoffman) writes:
>>>In article newsq@ampex.com (Stan Busby) writes:

>>>|> Then there was T.A. Edison who first observed the
>>>|> diode.  Then there was Fleming who first put a grid
>>>|> between the filament and the anode and thereby made the
>>>|> first amplifier.  He called it a "valve", and that
>>>|> terminology is used today in England.  
>>>
>>>Not quite!  Fleming's valve did not have a grid!  His valve, invented
>>>in 1904, was a diode that was used to detect radio signals.  The grid
>>>was added by Lee DeForest in 1907.  His "Audion", a triode, was the
>>>first amplifier.
>> 
>> I remember reading some years back about giant pnuematic speakers that were
>> driven with water pressure. I can't recall anything about what was driving
>
>Yes.  Actually, pneumatic amplifiers were very popular in Europe in the
>early days of the phonograph.  The Pathe machine turns up from time to
>time on this side of the Atlantic.  It does significantly increase the

Okay! Maybe now we are getting closer to something here! What I am trying to 
determine is if there was any carryover of terms and technology from the days
of the mechanical phonograph, to the era when the electron was first
harnessed.

>>So how does this relate? Maybe it doesn't, but I imagine these speakers were
>>driven by something like the pnuematic equivalent of a tube. Maybe the valve
>>term is related to this?

It's just a hunch, but I wonder if the "active component" in the old steam
and pnuematic amplifiers was referred to as a "valve" (after all, it is a
valve).  Continuing, I wonder if the engineers, technicians, and
experimenters that made the transition (to the electron tube), brought this
terminolgy withthem. Thus, the "valve" term may have already been chosen
(prior to the tube) for a device applied to audio amplification.

On a side-note, does anyone know of literature detailing the design of this 
Pathe machine and pnuematic amplifies in general? Were they designed with 
parameters and data similar to tube amplifier engineering? Were "standard" 
off-the-shelf components available?
>
>Well, the Brits used to call a tube a valve (and they still do) because it
>operates like an electrical valve.  It opens and closes a connection based
>upon a control signal at the grid.  Now, for some strange reason, they call
>diode rectifier tubes "valves" also...  probably more out of habit than
>anything else.
>
Well, there is such a thing as a "check-valve," which is the pnuematic 
equivalent of a diode.

Just trying to gain some historical perspective,
George Larson             |
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From: rob woiccak <REWOICC%ERENJ.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: WRPS?
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Princeton
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:21:26 GMT

chapin@ssvax.gte.com (Barry Chapin) sez:
>Yes, there is a WRPS in Potsdam, NY, run by State University of
>New York Potsdam College.  I went to school there, graduating in 89.

i checked with my brother who deejays there now and they are cable-only.
there are plans to go free air soon, but nothing definte. they are also
aware that there already is a broadcasting wrps, so there will be a call
letter change whenever they do go free air.

rob -- rewoicc@erenj.bitnet

 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: Will Martin <wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re:  Heart of Space 
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:49:03 GMT



Music from the Hearts of Space had been being carried on WSIE, 88.7 MHz,
in Edwardsville, IL on Sunday nights at, I think, 10 PM. I believe they
still carry it -- they do have a sort of all-New-Age Sunday-night lineup.
I just cannot remember for sure if I've heard it in recent weeks. They
did change some programming about a month ago, so it may or may not be there.
They do have a local-to-St. Louis phone number you can call to check:
531-8870. 

WSIE comes in OK on good FM radios, and on quality FM tuners with middling-
decent antenna systems. Many cheap FM radios (or expensive radios with
poorly-designed or cheap FM sections!) will not get it here in St. Louis,
however. My GE Superradio II gets it quite nicely...

Regards, Will
wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil OR wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil

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From: rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson)
Subject: Re: Cross-talk between FM stations
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:21:23 GMT

I think you are on the ragged edge of having your FM
receivers being overloaded by thermal inversions in
the atmosphere.  During the morning and evening when
there are changes in temperature, the coverage of an
FM frequency can change.

Have you tried installing a 1N914 diode clipper on the
input of your antenna?  If that does not work, how about
a 1N34 germanium diode clipper?  Germaninum clippers begin
to conduct at .2 volts, while silicon clippers begin to
clip at .7 volts.

Ron
AK0N

Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting
From: rrb@airwaves.chi.il.us (RRB MODERATOR)
Subject: Thanks for the help (was AM car radio cuts out ..)
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Internet Radio Journal
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:08:45 GMT

Dear people

Thanks for all the response on my question about mysterious signal
interuptions on my AM car radio.  Many ideas were offered, all great. 
However it will probably remain a mystery, unless someone has specific info
regarding THIS particular receiver, since I have never experienced it before
and probably never will again, on any other radio.

Brief recap:

On a digitally tuned car receiver, I experience a total blackout of audio on
AM, when near certain (but not all) communications towers, and in some other
areas.  The cut-out is abrupt and total, and goes on and off like a two way
transmitter is blanketing the signal.  It is like a squelch cutting out.

It happens on any AM signal and not at all on FM... or for that matter on
other AM sets.

I am going to try some of the ideas I got and see.  I also might bring a
frequency counter and see if it says anything when the radio cuts out.
This is not a problem, since it happens so seldom, but curiosity is driving
me mad.

Thanks to all, once again.

William Pfeiffer
Moderator - rec.radio.broadcasting - Internet Radio Journal
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From: Harald Brinkmann <harry@cs.tu-berlin.de>
Subject: AFN Munich
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:03:35 GMT



Hi folks!

I just heard that the AFN Musich transmitter on 1107 kHz signed off
for good on November 30th. Local programs from Munich ended this
spring with a good-bye program aired over the entire network. Southern
Bavaria was thereafter served from Nuremberg. Now some local VHF
transmitters relay the program to those few areas, where Americans
remains. 

AFN Munich was, I believe, the first AFN station on German soil using
a previously secret nazi 100 kW transmitter. This was heard well across
Europe. 

In the seventies Bavarian radio (BR) had an audience survey done of
how many people listen to what. It turned out that 5 to 6 times more
people listened to AFN (on MW only and difficult to get in some parts
of Bavaria) than ALL the, then three, BR programs on VHF. Needless to
say this was never published, but miraculously one copy ended up with
AFN anyway.

This is really the end of an important part in radio history. Sad to
see them go... Sniff...

  Harald


As a follow-up on January 4th, all network signals for American forces radio
(& TV) programming for Europe will originate from Greece, Croatia, Italy,
Spain, Norway and maybe even the Azores will relay this signal.]


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From: teve Bacher <seb@draper.com>
Subject: Re: Joe Frank
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: _
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:07:46 GMT



>Anybody out there know anything about Joe Frank?  He (until recently)
>had a radio show on Sunday nights.  I'm not sure exactly which station,
>but it was a pretty cool show and he seems to have gone off the air.
>Any info would be appreciated.
>Chris

Joe Frank's "Work in Progress" still airs on Sunday nights - actually,
early Monday mornings (12 midnight) - on WBUR-FM in Boston.  I also
thought I heard that it's no longer "on the air" - the shows have been
reruns for a while now.  

I'd also like to find out more about this show and its creator.  It seems
to come out of KCRW in Santa Monica.  I think it's the best thing on the
air here in Boston (I've trained myself to stay awake so I can catch the
whole thing).  

IN fact, I would be glad to hear from other Joe Frank fans at all.  I've
been trying to turn people on to the program, which as I understand it
is supposed to air on Saturday nights in other areas - Sunday night is
a real graveyard zone, isn't it?  My top 3?  I'd say "The Great Pretender",
"A Call in the Night", and "No Show" - the last is a classic of
self-referentiality in which JF explains what a lousy week he had and
why he's been unable to prepare a program.

 - Steve Bacher
 - Draper Laboratory
 - Cambridge, MA

Disclaimer:  My employer doesn't know or care what I listen to.

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From: "TISS: :HIGGINS" <higgins%tiss.decnet@mdcgwy.mdc.com>
Subject: Re: WLUP reception problems
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: McDonnell Douglas
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:49:18 GMT

>[Moderator's Note:  WLUP-AM is a three tower directional cardioid pattern (at
>night) with the main null toward Seattle to protect the 1B there (KING?). 
>Thier main lobe is just slightly north of due east and being a cardiod (heart
>shaped) pattern, they put a respectable signal north, northeast, southeast
>and (of course) due east of Chicago.  They can often be heard in Denmark, but
>not at the Iowa Border (a little over 100 miles west).]
          
WLUP-AM protects KOMO, Seattle (rarely audible in the midwest on Monday
Mornings when WLUP goes off). KING is Seattle-1090 (call letter buffs note it
is in King County).

I could get it reasonably well both day and night in Iowa City, Iowa, 194
miles to the west, tho not nearly as good as WMAQ/WGN/WBBM/WLS.

[Moderator's Note:  Yes, of course you are right, I always get those two
mixed up :-\.  You get KING in Iowa City?  What about KAAY -1090-Little Rock?]

Earl Higgins KA9DHA
now in Saint Louis


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From: shearson!dmandl@uunet.UU.NET (David Mandl)
Subject: Re: Pacifica Radio Network
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:42:54 GMT



In article 16463@gagme.chi.il.us, book@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert Aaron Book) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.084019.22178@gagme.chi.il.us>, cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet
>News Post) writes:
>> I keep seeing transcripts of Pacifica Radio broadcasts on alt.conspiracy
>>among other places.   A friend of mine in Kansas City says he listens to
>>them up there leading me to believe that it is a 'network')  
>
>Pacifica is definitely a network.  The network was started quite
>some time ago, with funding for many years from, of all places, the KGB.
                                                                 ^^^^^^^
Is this serious, or was it meant as a joke?  I've never heard
about this, and I know a bit about Pacifica.  You're making quite
a charge here.  I'd like to see some references, please.

   --Dave.

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