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From: ubigpig@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeremy Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MINDWALK: information wanted
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:17:35 GMT

In <1993Jan4.144937.6653@rigel.econ.uga.edu> glenn@rigel.econ.uga.edu (Glenn F. Leavell) writes:

>While recently watching the movie KAFKA on videocassette, I saw a preview
>for MINDWALK, which I believe was directed by the author of the book
>_The Tao of Physics_.  I had not heard of this film, and I was wondering if
>anyone has seen it or knows anything else of interest about it.

>Thank you.

>Glenn Leavell

I have been talking to mein girlfriend and she has been pressuring me to see this movie for a few weeks.  It is one of her all-time favorites, apparently, so if you find out any info, please post it or e-mail me: ubigpig@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu.
From: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Siskel & Ebert's Worst List?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 09:14:13 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher) writes:

- warn@newton.uvm.edu (Patrick D Warn) writes:
- 
- >For those who missed it, Siskel & Eberts 10 Worst Flims of 92:
- >10. The Babe
- > 9. Wispers in the Dark
- > 8. Toys
- > 7. Medicine Man
- > 6. Folks
- > 5. Stop or My Mom Will Shoot
- > 4. Shadows and Fog
- > 3. Christopher Columbus: The Discovery
- > 2. Shining Through
- >and the #1 worst film of '92 (drum roll please. . .)
- >
- > 1. Frozen Assets
-  
- Frozen Assets? What was that?
- 
- 
- -diana
- 
- >--
- >                     Wondering what it all means,
- >                                 Pat
- -- 
- _____________________________________________________________________________
-                                 'It is only with the heart that one can see
- Diana Tenery-Fisher  o/~         rightly. What is essential is invisible
- cass@netcom.com                  to the eye'  -  The Little Prince    *143SKB

Don't ask about `Frozen Assets'.  The clip they showed from it was so 
abysmal.  Corben Bernsen starred as a bank manager, and Shelley Long 
starred as an employee in a sperm bank (which Corbie was about to 
foreclose on).  The scene went like this ...

          Shelley and Corben in front of a fireplace, champagne in hand,  
          and she says to Corbie, "The first moment I laid eyes on you, I 
          wanted to jump your bones."  (Obviously she's had to much to 
          drink, 'cuz she promptly passes out after saying that.)

I don't call that funny!!!!!

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From: dussert@beatrice.ensta.fr (Pierre Dussert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The Wizard of Oz
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:59:56 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure de Techniques Avancees, Paris , France
Distribution: world
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Keywords: toto

	Hello everybody!

 Does someone remember the name of the little girl played by Judy Garland in the
 Wizard of Oz?

				Alex
From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:27:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Posting of LISTs
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies

In article <1iseroINN2o2@gizmo.usc.edu>, kimd@gizmo.usc.edu writes:
>How often are the LISTs posted.  I saw the cinematographer list posted
>last month.  I'm particularly interested in the actresses list.

All the lists are available via anonymous ftp from boulder.colorado.edu
[I/P addr: 128.138.240.1] in pub/tv+movies/lists. If you don't have access
to ftp there are ftp -> mail gateways around (e-mail me for details).

Cheers,

Col

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From: bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams)
Subject: Weird Films and how we get to see them
Summary:  Mainstream films are not that weird...
Keywords: Flaming Creatures, Eraserhead, Slacker
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:20:30 GMT


I think you mean, weird films that have made it into the main stream, which
means by definition that they can't be THAT weird.  I was just reading a
book someone lent me called MIDNIGHT MOVIES. There are all kinds of films in
this book that probably would be considered 'weird'.  Has anyone seen this
movie they talk about called "Flaming Creatures?"  It would be interesting
to see as the book relates how in the '60s people were getting arrested for
showing this 'underground' film.

One thing I hate about these 'best films' list or 'worst film' or 'best
acting' or whatever is it kind of assumes that we have seen all the films
that might qualify for these awards that are out there.  NOT!!  The only
movies that end up getting a wide release are ones the distributors are
willing to release.  It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how
good the films are or whatever.  There are GREAT films that we will never
see and never know about.  There are thousands upon thousands of films that
the average movie goer will never find out about.  It's all in the advertising
(just wanted to clear that up, hehe )...

Take the film 'Slacker' (not 'slackers'), for example.  I just saw this film
recently and I think it is GREAT!  But it was basically an independent film.
It was just lucky that it has gotten a wide release.  There are all kinds of
independent films being produced all over the world.  And there have been
going years/decades into the past...

I just read about ERASERHEAD, which is one of my all time favorite films.
This film (and possibly David Lynch's career) exists in the public sense
(meaning it is known about by more than a few hundred people) because this
guy Ben Barenholtz who knew about the lure/power of cult movies liked the
film and nursed it along into cultdom by persuading a New York cinema to
continue to give it midnight showings there for a year.  If this guy hadn't
happened to see it we might never have known about it or even about David
Lynch.  I dunno, maybe that isn't something to get upset about, it's just the
way it is and there's nothing anyone can do about it.  But it does kind of
bother me :-)


As a final thought, I guess what I am wanting and pleading for is that I WISH
more people who love movies would get involved in your local film club (or if
you don't have one maybe start one) or university film group and try to get
some cool independents or some great (or even obscure or wierd) old classics
shown instead of always this commercial crap coming out of hollywood that is
feeding these multiplex theatres.  So many great theatres have closed already
because not enough people care, oh well...

Ben.

-- 
Ben Williams
bew@brahms.udel.edu

               What we got here is a failure to communicate... 
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From: trice@brtph330 (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Organization: Bell Northern Research, RTP, NC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:20:16 GMT

Michael Grimes (mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: Any others to share?

* loud children

* crying children

* high school kids making out in the *FRONT* rows           

* usher's who tell you to put your feet down

* that sticky floor

* $20 popcorn

* $30 small sodas

--
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From: foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com (AJ Foxx)
Subject: Re: Underrated Actor:  Alan Rickman
Reply-To: foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: "n.  A group united by a common interest or goal"
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:18:29 GMT

phd85@seq1.keele.ac.uk (D.H. Holden) writes:
|> anna@psych.toronto.edu (Anna Filippone):
|> > Definitely Alan Rickman.  I saw two films he was in this weekend.  One was  
|> > "Close My Eyes" where he played the husband of a woman who has an affair
|> > with her brother.  The other was "Truly, Madly, Deeply" -- a film I heard
|> > being called the film that "Ghost" should have been (and I agree).  Both
|> > films are highly recommended.
|> > 
|> > And you must admit that he was the best part of Robin Hood:  Prince of
|> > Thieves as the Sherriff of Nottingham.
|> > 
|> > Has he been in other films?  
|> > 
|> 
|>     He was the baddie in Die Hard.

I believe he was a good guy in The January Man
  --AJ
From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:41:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Movie theaters that advertise "Dolby Stereo" and then don't
have the surround speakers turned on when the movie starts.
This forces me to miss the first moments of a film to go speak
to some pimply faced teenager behind the concession stand who
informs me it's not his problem. Aaauuuugggghhh, I HATE THAT!!!

Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: The Crying Game
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:38:21 GMT

spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:


>Yeah, it's a great movie. I'm glad critics and everyone else did a good job
>of keeping mum about the plot details. I'm actually surprised some
>special interest group didn't decide to piss everyone off and spoil the
>movie for everyone.

>BTW, is the Stephen Rea in the movie the same Stephen Rea who is now
>on Broadway in "Someone to Watch Over Me"? 

Yes.

Interestingly enough, his wife served time in prison for participating
in an IRA bombing in the '70's.




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From: edm@gocart.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: 24 frames a second: technical query
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:58:29 GMT

>>>>> On 12 Jan 93 22:55:49 GMT, gaer@fellini.harvard.edu (Art Gaer) said:
Art> The necessity for this is because the human threshold for noticing
Art> something like film flicker (there's a better technical term that
Art> escapes me at the moment) is about 40 times per second.  Only block

Is it flicker-fusion rate?
--
Ed McCreary                                               ,__o
edm@gocart.eng.hou.compaq.com                           _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao."  (*)/'(*)
From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Crying Game
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

could someone post or e-mail a brief synopsis of the show Rea is doing
on broadway - "Someone to Watch Over Me".

Also, something about the movie crying game, {SPOILER}



i  got the impression that more than anything else that fergus feels
great sadness over being involved with jodi's death .  this is why he
acts as he does with dil .   my question is if he is homosexual or
not (not that it matters), but the movie never makes it very clear.
they sleep together a couple of times, but you never get the indication
that they do anything .  i get the idea fergus acts as he does in the
end more out of kindness and regret over jodi's loss than anything else.
please correct me if im wrong.
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From: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Subject: Re: Movies In the Public Domain
Reply-To: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:38:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.152826.2641@b8.b8.ingr.com> anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
>In article <138330001@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com>, stachnik@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (George Stachnik) writes:
>|> I'm interested in movies that have passed into the public
>|> domain.  Does anybody have a list?  I was told recently that
>|> nobody owns the copyright to "It's a Wonderful Life", which
>|> I found hard to believe.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Are
>|> there any other films of note that are in the public domain?
>

>I read/saw somewhere (and I honestly think it was
>on Siskel&Ebert) that the company that owned "It's a Wonderful Life"'s copyright
>had let it run out and it was in the public domain, so therefore, every TV
>station could own a copy and show it at-will without paying for the rights.
>
>But this is all from memory and personal experience, so don't blame me if it's
>wrong.

Basically correct. In fact, ABC's nightline program did a show on the
movie on Christmas Eve about five years ago. They got Capra on to talk about
the movie, and Siskel & Ebert to talk about why everybody likes it. 

-- 
Robert B. Schmunk <schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu>
SPAC, Rice Univ, Box 1892, Houston, TX 77251 USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[He] turned back to the window and the opaque Houston sky. "You know, there
isn't anything wrong with this town that a couple of really good hurricanes
couldn't fix."                                      --Peter Gent, THE FRANCHISE
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:28:27 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1993Jan9.002920.19735@Princeton.EDU>  
spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
> In article <1993Jan8.185440.17860@spectra.com>, johnson@spectra.com  
(boyd johnson) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan7.204526.6320@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>  
tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher) writes:
> >Since 99% of the people leave at the first sign of credits as if  
someone
> >had yelled "FIRE" the ushers usually have a few minutes during the
> 
> Maybe where YOU go the movies.  I have worked at five movie  
theaters in
> the Baltimore area, worked at one up here in Jersey, and seen  
movies at
> a sixth one in Balto. on a regular basis.  There are always some  
people
> who stay through the whole credits.  Enough to get in the way.  And  
then
> they bitch that you disturbed them while they were trying to see  
who the
> key grip's best boy's assistant was.
> 

Gee, and I thought when I paid for the movie, I was allowed
to see the whole thing, down to the end of the last real.  Now
I know I'm just getting in the way.  Maybe you should just
start cleaning the theatre with ten minutes to go in the movie,
and let those folks who just get in the way wait for it
to come out on video tape.

Seriously, I can see what you problem is. The solution is:
a) don't take that attitude to your patrons (that is, that
they get in the way) and b) ask your cleaning staff to
realize that those folks still in the theatre are there because
they want to read what's on the screen; thus, the cleaning staff
shouldn't stand right in front of them while they
are cleaning.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
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From: wood@siemens.com (Jim Wood)
Subject: Re: Al Pacino for Best Actor (Scent of a Woman)
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:39:51 GMT

WDENNEN@CCVM.sunysb.edu (Bill Dennen) writes:

>He certainly gets my vote (although, my votes does not count for much).
>The movie was great - one of the best I've seen in a loooong time (and, yes,
>I'm a movie freak and go to the movies often).

>Pacino should get best actor!
>Any other comments?

He's certainly overdue, and yes, I think he'll take home the
award this year.  I'm going to see this movie this weekend and
everything I've heard about it is positive.
From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
Subject: Why X _is_ making money
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:27:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

Um, guys...

It's not challenging the Culkinator or setting records, but X is 
already in 8-digit profits - in spite of the Amazing Colossal Budget.

There is one simplereason it's not as blockbustery as y'all apparently
expect it to be. Can you name any box office smash that was three and
a half hours long? It's simply too long to be an ideal box office movie.

=====
Joe Sterbenc - Intelligent Vehicle Highway Systems - Motorola
All opinions are my own, but can be rented for reasonable rates
sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com
=====
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From: bammerla@cs.ruu.nl (Boris Ammerlaan)
Subject: Re: Silence of the lambs (spoiler)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:34:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <2889@bigfoot.first.gmd.de> aze@first.gmd.de (Andre' Zehl) writes:

>There were a couple of  things I didn't understand about the movie:

Same here.

>Is there any psychological meaning in this symbol "silence of the lambs"?

I'd say it meant "peace of mind".

>Why was it so important for Jodie Foster to get the killer, to save the woman?

You mean it wouldn't be extremely important to you? She just cared. (I would
of course say: let the spoiled brat die.)

>There was no logical connection to the lamb she saved in her youth.

a)I thought, in the end, she didn't save the lamb.
b)Maybe no logical, but certainly a psychological reason.

>Why did "Silence of the Lambs" end in Africa? 

I didn't notice that. Do you mean where Lector says "I'm having a friend for
dinner"? If it was in Africa, it would just be a place where his tormentor was
at that moment.

>Did I understand it right, that the murdere wanted to make a dress like
>a butterfly out of the skins?

I thought he just wanted to make a human skin, to become female that way.

Boris Ammerlaan

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From: cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher)
Subject: Re: Need Drew Barrymore title
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:06:53 GMT

brand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert W. Brand) writes:



>I don't usually read this group, but I was wondering if any of the
>motion picture gurus could help me out.  

>I need the title of a film starring Drew Barrymore in which she 
>supposedly has an "intimate" scene with a female co-star.  I don't
>know anything about the film except that it was probably made for 
>1992 or 1991.  I remember only a brief interview on a talk show where
>she was discussing the movie. Any help would be greatly appreciated.  
>Don't ask why I need it :).

>(Email reply is prefered over a posting).
>                               
>(brand@rtsg.mot.com
> bobb%isdgsm@rtsg.mot.com)
 
The movie was called Poison Ivy. It co-starred Sara Gilbert (from
the tv show Roseanne) Tom Skerrit and Cheryl Ladd. I heard about the
kiss between her and Gilbert too, and when I rented the movie, I dont
remember seeing it. (Perhaps I had an edited version) THe movie is 
interesting though. Cute little psychological thriller. Barrymore's
performance was good. 

-diana


>-- 
>Bob Brand
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From: egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges)
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:37:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.234108.14833@linus.mitre.org> jon@MITRE.org (J. E. Shum) writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec24.225326.6478@Princeton.EDU>, egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:
>>
>...... A WHOLE LOT of deconstructionist drivel about FFC's Dracula .....
>>
>
>You know I almost started to rebut the previous posting until the aroma
>of PC crap reached my nostrils and I knew that rebuttal was neither
>necessary or useful.  Mere burial will do.
>
>Happy Winter Solstice all!
>
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From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS!
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Society for Promotion of Entropy in the Universe (SPEU)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:15:10 GMT

In article <jyc.726692368@Leland>, jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
>spencer@stroke.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>
>>                                           I do not, however, subscribe
>>to the idea that the patron is some god that should be worshipped.
>
>   Having read some of your previous posts, I would characterize the
>above sentence as the understatement of the year.
>
>   Please let us know what theater you manage so that those of us who
>would rather avoid business establishments managed by people whose
>attitude towards their customers is one of contempt can make a point of
>never setting foot in it.   

I don't have general contempt for customers.  If I have given that
impression, I apologize.  Much of my participation in this thread has
been letting off of steam.

I have contempt for customers who act like THEY are more important than
any other patron in the theater.

-----
sss / Princeton University Class of 1994 / Department of Computer Science
I once believed in causes too, I had my pointless point of view, And life
went on no matter who was wrong or right  [B. Joel, "Angry Young Man"]
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: The most underrated actress strikes again...
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:14:26 GMT
Organization: HMS

That's right,Andie MacDowell will not join the ranks of unemployed in 1993.
Well,not yet at least...

She has a part in the upcoming new comedy starring Bill Murray. The
film is titled "The GroundHog Day" and it opens nationwide on Valentine's
Day Weekend(Friday,February 12th). Apparently,Andie is playing Bill's
love interest in the picture. She looks her usual *underrated* self in
the 3-minute trailer that I saw over the weekend.

I guess Gerard and,now Bill, are preparing Andie for the most challenging
role of her career which will be starring as Garth's babe in Wayne's World 2.

-Mark
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