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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:49:39 CST
From:         Debbie Scheibal <DPDS@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Ozzy, Rainbow and Urban Ambience, Oh my!

> Ozzy said he'll keep making music, he just won't tour anymore. Hence, the name
> of his current "No More Tours" tour.  The final gig is going to have a reunion
> of the original Sabbath lineup (yep, even Bill Ward). Supposively Ronnie Dio
> had a cow when he heard about this. So for the "new" Sabbath set, Rob Halford
> will be sitting in for the munchkin.

Does anybody have a copy of the tour dates?

Debbie
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From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: zappa, etc.

Bob-----

>Also to "that redhead" -- Marsha Ferzig!  Your name came to me just
>as I pushed the Deliver button.  I've really enjoyed your posts and I
>hope I didn't offend you too badly.  But all we men are pigs anyway;
>some of us are just worse than others (oink).  In mitigation, both
>my kid (at U of Alabama) and I love Legos.
>
My last name is Ferziger, BTW - not that i care - I hate it....but I
thought y'all shouldn't get used to my username - I think I'll change it to
"Brady" just to fuck with people's minds...


>What do I need to send you to get your a cappella tapes?  Grovel, grovel.
>BTW, have you heard Todd Rundgren's "A Cappella"?  I got it in the
>dollar bin and absolutely fell in love -- ended up buying a lot of
>his middle stuff which IMHO wasn't nearly as good as "A Cappella".
>
See my personal letter to you. Sexual favors are always nice, but I'll send
them to people for $6 or a good trade. No I didn't know Todd Rundgren had
an A cappella album out! Is it all a cappella? Tell em about it and that
might make a good trade....His song "Mighty Love" is on the _Modern A
Cappella_ CD I posted about this weekend. I like it, I like it!!

>I actually did remember before your very kind post.  Incidentally,
>Red, (and I'm really disappointed about your not being a Brady)
>your comment about your Grandma not appreciating your dating a
>Rev. really struck a chord (that's as musical as this paragraph
>is going to get).  I hadn't realized how deeply some folks felt
>about a cross around somebody's neck (e.g.) being a symbol of The
>Enemy until (of course) it happened to me (in southwestern PA)
>when a bunch of cross-wearers crucified me for my (unconscious at
>the time) Unitarianism.  But that's another (and probably mostly
>boring) story.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you want to talk religion.... let's do it privately...I date anyone I
damn well please (as long as he pleases to, of course) regardless of
religious affiliation. I've never dated a Jew, so Grandma's about given up
hope anyway....

>I've just subbed to RMUSIC-L and it's really confusing!  About half
>my replies in this one were responses to that list until I went back
>and read the mail.

What's it like? Renato didn't like it either...What do you mean
"confusing"?

Later...

Marsha
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Subject:      Re: What Makes It Blues
              12 Nov 1992 11:32:31 EST from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

I said:
>> Blues:  an attitude in the music to emulate or produce a feeling
>>         or mood of sadness and sympathy for the poor sod who sings it.
>>         Roots trace back to African chanting and Americanized
>>         version of it by the Afro-American culture.
>>
>
>"mood of sadness and sympathy"  - NOT
>
>Blues ==energy of dealing with the paradox(es) of reality
>
>Blues transcends happy/sad -- up/down -- Blues is LIFE IN YOUR FACE and still
>hanging in ... with style
>
Sounds good to me, Sonia!  I step down my answer for yours.

Mike Masuda
    Re: What Makes It Blues                                                R
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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: one for the beer
              Johnson" at Nov 5, 92 8:44 pm

> piece....  [Tim prepares to reveal an embarrassing
> secret.  Too bad Libby ain't here, she could watch
> me blush.] ... it was played by ... Karl Haas on his
> show.


Mad laughter from Sonia--the embarrassing secret to top them all.  My son named
Karl "the Horse's Aas."

Cubed Mike, thanks for your reply to YOWZA (can't quote a second post after
already quoting Tim's post, the way some sophisticated posters can)

I was hoping to get some response on the guitar-playing business.

And it wasn't a matter of playing "wrong chords" so much as trying out weird
moves... the hardest thing for me is trying to combine interesting PIECES of
various chords with interesting BITS of lead lines...  The one thing I still
have trouble with is that I move around the neck too much, as if shifting
position
is going to give me something "exciting and new" where my teacher's trying to
get me to stay in a box and work out all its possibilities... That is quite a
challenge, not to fall into the automatic or obvious things but to do some
weirded/spaced/freaked out things while
hanging in that same box.

Maybe being incredibly tired and hilarious breaks your mind-set or something;
it shows how we all get cast into a certain concrete and it's important to be
able to break it up... I suppose that's why (or one reason) a lot of musicians
have taken drugs??   While watching musicians at live shows I'm always staring
at their hands to watch when/why they shift positions on the neck, and it
always amazes me how much good stuff they get in the same position.  That is my
main weakness--the inability to do that.  As soon as it sounds lame I feel very
discouraged and then it's even harder to break out and do something genuinely
exploratory/new/interesting.

 Again, I'm ready for suggestions.  My playing is
finally beginning to "go somewhere" and I'm interested in all the help I
can get.

BTW, Marsha, I received your tapes and only had time to listen to part of the
first tape before CRASHING but listen folks, Marsha has put together some
absolutely DYNAMITE a cappella--just thrilling--simply FABULOUS!!!!!
Some of it I recognize from that wonderful show on streetcorner singing I saw
on public TV a couple years ago--we tried to record it but reception was bad
that night.  Did you locate the sound track to that program (what was it
called anyway--I loved it!!) ???  Marsha is some swinging dame, I guarantee it
from these smokin' tapes.

Sonia
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From:         MIke Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      About Folk Music, and others...

Mario asks:
>Who can recomend a good Soul singer?

I can.  How about Aretha Franklin and Ray Charles?
For something a little funkier, James Brown.
For something a little older, Billie Holliday.
For something a little jazzier, Al Jarreau.

Peace and smiles.
Mike Masuda
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 15:07:04 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Apology

Scott writes:
>My response to Daron McNab's criticism of John McIntyre was needlessly
>and gratuitously nasty; posting it was indefensible.  I am sorry.

Tim responds:
  I find this post extremely offensive.  Your response to Daron's
brain fart was both on the money and entertaining.  I insist that
you retract your apology.

                            -T
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Miles video: THEY DO NEFFERTITI!!!!!!
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:39:58 GMT

In article <6BD0437F00032D8E@knox.bitnet> SOUND CAN WASH CLOTHES <TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET> writes:
>P.S. Anybody have the new Coltrane compilation yet? It's on GRP and is
>supposed to be a 3 CD set of his best stuff from the Impulse! years. I'd
>love to find a track listing if at all possible. I haven't got nearly
>enough Trane in my collection, and I keep hoping that MCA/GRP gets their
>shit together and starts releasing some better CD's of Trane's stuff. This
>buisness of 35 minute releases of the original albums, with no liner notes,
>is reprehensible. If this new collection is any good, you can bet I'll be
>buying it.....

I would get the individual CDs.  But looking at the lineup of tunes, you
can't go wrong.  Mosaic is supposed to be coming out with the complete
Village Vanguard.  You can currently get it only as an import at this
time.

Jeff
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Gary said:

>Ah, man, you should've heard that extended guitar solo "live", you might
>change your opinion.

Well, I never saw them live so I guess I'm outta luck. Or is there a version
on their live album _Classics_? I always thought Rik was a pretty decent
guitarist...

>Well, "Spellbound" is probably my least favorite on _Thunder Seven_. "Killing
>Time" may be my favorite Triumph song, good lyrics and I love the duel vocals
>by Rik and Gil. _Sport Of Kings_ did seem to lean a little towards the
>commercial side of things. Several songs did get old real fast.
>Do you have _Surveillance_?

No, I don't have any of their recent stuff. In all I've probably heard about
half of all the tracks from the three albums you mentioned. None of it
grabbed me enough to go out and pick up.

>I do wonder about Rik's influence. I was not at all impressed with his solo
>album as a whole. How is the second one? How did you get a copy? I had to send
>$25 to the record company, and am still waiting for it.

All I know from _Ipso Facto_ are two songs I've heard on the local Toronto
airwaves. Sounds really similar to his first one. Since I'm in Canada, the CD
is available in any local store...

I'll let you know if I hear anything from _Edge of Excess_. The talk I've
heard gives me the impression it'll be closer to their old sound, if not
heavier. Gil Moore on vocals all the time? Hmmm, that'll be intersting...

Bob T
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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Choob emulator

Just read this in last week's EE Times:

Eric Pritchard has developed a Tube Emulator IC whose oscilloscope and
sound characteristics are nearly indistinguishable from a 12AX7.  The
ICs were developed using three classic guitar pre-amp circuits and
holding "wine tasting" sessions using professional musicians.

The IC allegedly "harmonizes like a tube, clips like a tube, and
sounds like a tube."

He's founded a company called Deja Vu Audio to marked the emulators.
Hmmmmm....
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From:         Dave <USTS060@RUST1.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      The horror, the horror.

    I'm about to do what I thought I'd never do again...Get a job in
the service industry.  I've a interview with the zit faced manager of
a Musicland in one of Birmingham's most atrocious malls.  My first
venture in the acursed world of fake-smiles-and-unfelt-compliments
was video store run by the infamous Cobb family - kinda like the
mafia of the south although without the expensive italian suits.
    My question is does anyone have a scoup on the Musicland/Sam
Goody conglomerate?  Am I to expect to have to give my soul, my self
respect and the majority of my finer qualities in order to work
there?  Secondly, is the degradation and horror worth any potential
discounts I might get?
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:14:57 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Arrested for driving while blind

A couple of weeks ago i mentioned i was going to see Wolfman Washington
well i went paid the 6.00 cover (twice) and the show was supposed to start
at 10:30ish at 11:15 there were no amps on the stage one guitar case and
drums...No muscians I got pissed and left (foolishly didn't ask for my money
back). I called to check on the Roy Rogers show tommorrow and mentioned that
i was not pleased....Well no one was pleased Wolfman got arrested for DUI
on the way to the club......I will talk to the manager and i believe i should
not have to pay a cover for Roy....Don't you agree.....They refunded everyone's
money, but it was after i left....Has anyone seen Roy Rogers b4..L.W.
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: one for the beer
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:06:26 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92110509162125@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson) writes:
>so I was listening to the radio last night
>when I heard a bit of bach being banged out
>on the piano.  very good music.  so I pulled
>out my CDs, skipped through the tracks till
>I found the piece.  it was the last section
>of Bach's French Suite #5.  my CD is of a
>harpsichord performance of the French Suites.
>so, I gave it a play ... and ... decided that
>I liked the piano performance better.
>
>                     -Tim


Ah-ha!  Do you know who was playing the piano, and who was playing
harpsichord?

Jeff
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              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      How strange...

From Progtron's latest addendum to the marvellous catalogue:

>Tribute - Live [Sweden] $19.95
>        - New Views [Sweden] $19.95
>        - Terra Incognita [Sweden] $19.95
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        And now, if someone still dares say that *I* am possibly Hammill-
inspired, I can finally get angry!

        Ciao, Marco
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Regarding Bootlegs...

The record companies claim that the potential market for these off offerings
is too small to justify the investment.  They are probably right for their
calculations.  I do not believe that any of these offerings would sell 100,000
copies as they need.

On the other hand, if they can remix just 3 songs for 5000 issues, what is
their problem?  What really gauls me is that the version of AYE on the +3
disk is soooo good it really cannot be passed up.
--
Charles Hofstaedter
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3001 S. Congress Ave.
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(512)448-8674
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:29:03 CST
From:         "(Bob Crispen)" <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: a melody that I know not the name of....

Ooooh, Mike, it's "Love Is Blue"

Green, green my jealous heart
Blue is my world
Now we are apart.

are just some of the wonderful lyrics to this.  I believe Tom Jones
did the lyrics to this, and that the originator of the instrumental
version was Bert Kaempfert, but I may be wrong on both.

Was this a test?
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Subject:      Re: I like smokin' lightning

What! You gotta problem with the "late" Schoenberg quartets? (I assume
you mean the last two, ain't but four o' the motherfuckers in the first
place.) Man, them things is downright FRIENDLY! Get up with the slow
movement on the last one, everybody lining up in unison. Just warm up
with the Brahms quartets, no way you're gona have any problems. M. Bloom,
you deserve a BREAK today, and those quartets is IT!
MWM
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From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ROCK AND ROLL

Leonard,
I'm glad you were able to pick out the best part of the Zep sound.
Page is a studio wizard, and I can't wait to actually hear his new
album, which will focus more on studio production.
I hope he doesn't use the standard way of miking drums.
He never does, but he might do so, just to be with the in crowd.
He and Geoff Emerick were the best drum team for drum sound.

BTW the song you referred to is called "Hey, Hey, What Can I Do,"
a b-side to the "Immigrant Song" single.

later,

Mike Masuda.
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From:         MIKE <VANVMIKE@OSHKOSHW.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Public Enemy

Date sent:  3-NOV-1992 11:17:27
>>PAT VISCOSI SAYS:
>>>I am a die hard PUBLIC ENEMY fan......
>
>MIKE GETS HYSTERICAL:
>>How can you be when PE's idea of affirmative action is to enslave white
>>people for a few hundred years to see how they like it?
>
>RICK, EASILY CONVINCED BY MIKE'S EMOTIONAL OUTBURST, ACTS APPROPRIATELY LIKE A
>LEMMING:
>Oh, good God, that's absolutely horrendous! Well, the first thing that I'm
>going to do about it is not vote for Public Enemy when they run for national
>office. I'll just play it safe and listen to their music instead; at least
>there's no danger there. *whew!* Thanks for alerting us to what might have been
>a major disaster, Mike. The country needs more watchdogs like you. On behalf of
>the Paranoid Conspiracists of ALLMUSIC, I salute your unflagging diligence and
>nominate you as Honorary Chair for this year.
>
>Taking the plunge,
>Rick

BRAVO!!

SCORE:     RICK - 1       MIKE - -45

I'd just like to say that there are excepted standard morals.  Public
Enemies morals do not coincide with those morals.  You by their music.
They become more famous.  They become figure-heads.  Kids idolize them.
Our world turns upside down.

Corny?  Perhaps.

Factual?  I think so.

Mike
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>From:         G_SWANK@TWU.BITNET

>You said something about releasing Captain Beefheart....has he been imprisoned
>in some way?  Or do you just want more music? Don't we all.

Sequel Records in England has found some masters recorded in November 1967
at the sessions for _Mirror Man_.  Five of the twelve songs were re-recorded
in 1972 for _Strictly Personal_, but the earlier versions are supposed to
be superior in terms of recording quality and performance.  They are being
released as _I May Be Hungry But I Sure Ain't Weird - The Alternate
Captain Beefheart_, NEXCD 215.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         MIKE <VANVMIKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Idiocy incarnate

Date sent:  6-NOV-1992 11:35:35
>>> "Homos are shun in the bible and the
>>>        church"
>>
>>Maybe in yours and Jerry Falwell's church, but not by any person with some
>>intelligence and human decency (two things you obviously do not have).
>
>I hate to say this , but Daron is right on this one if you'd like the chapter
>and verse i'll supply it. I don't want to sound like i'm Gay bashing, but from
>birth we are attracted to the opposite sex, all of nature is this way, birds
>bees, all the animals. So IMHO if you are gay there are some crossed wires
>somewhere......Apologies to any one who may be offened, but it's just my
>opinion and my opinion is not law, so take it with a grain of salt...L.W.

Understood that this is your own opinion, but I just think it's a shame
that you think homosexuals have some sort of disease or something.

Mike
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:26:05 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Styx

Bob T says....
>Do you like it as a live album or more as a "greatest hits" compilation (I'm
>not sure what songs are on it, but I assume most of the biggies are there)?
>Do they have a lot of their old stuff on it? Or do they concentrate more on
>songs like the dreaded "Too Much Time on my Hands" (shudder, shudder...).
>
I just like it. I don't think much about why. Besides - if I need a good
cry, it has "Babe" on it...


>
>P.S. Your a cappella tapes have me curious. I'll send you a note this week
>about a possible trade...

Write soon...I'm running out of tapes....

I think you should all wait for the reviews from Ilia, Sonia, Walt and
Eugene....Besides, I'm going to Binghamton this weekend, so I have a lot of
shit to do....

Keep me posted...

Marsha
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From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      one-liner of URGENT IMPORT

OK, forget my fastidious concern about one-liners.
I just want you all to realize that you must pronounce (whew, this'll be longer
than one-line... BUT no OMC unless I can think of some fast...) "err"
CORRECTLY in my last post or my sign-off won't be funny.

"Err" pronounced correctly does NOT rhyme with "air."

OMC:  uh... Ken mentioned Joaquin des Pres re: early music. Well, Tim (some
OTHER
Tim) left off my vote for des Pres from his Classical Top Tensky and I am still
very deeply grieved about this.

 Sonia
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