HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Via:         000010623000.F; 11 JAN 93 19:07:16 GMT
X-Mailer:    ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:07:12 GMT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: router error
              11, 93 12:16 pm

John Rutherford/Faculty Computing Center writes....
>
>
> I have just upgraded from netware 2.2 to 3.11. The server is attached
> through one ethernet card to our extended campus network (1 wire
> basically). There is another 3.11 server out there somewhere. When it
> came up when I was using 2.2 I received router configuration errors
> stating that Router at node xxxx claims that network 0000aa1 should
> be 0000AA1.
>
> I know (or think) that my server should be set at the same network
> number since we are essentially on the same wire. But when I add that
> to the autoexec.ncf file and bring up the new 3.11 server, it stops and
> gives the mesage that the network is in use and I must choose a new
> number. When I do that, the server boots, but I receive the router
> error messages continually. I tried to unbind ipx and rebind to
> the AAA1 network number, but it won't let me until I issue a different
> network number.
>
> HELP
>

The internal structure of NW 3.11 is different  to 2.x :

The 'file-server' is a process running inside the server, attached to the
Internal network. This is a 'logical' network inside the NetWare operating
system. if you like you can think of it as the BUS.

Network cards act as 'routers' routing packets from the external networks
to the Internal network

If a LAN driver locks up you might be able to re-start the card by unloading
and reloading the driver, followed by rebinding the protocols, etc.
This should be used with caution as it MAY bring your server down.

so:

you have to BIND IPX to the network card with the correct network number
for the EXTERNAL network for it to communicate with other servers.

You have to make up a different network number for the INTERNAL network of the
fileserver (treat it like any other LAN)

Richard
--
Richard Letts
Network Manager
University of Salford               Email: R.J.Letts@salford.ac.uk
United Kingdom                      Phone : +44 61 745 5252
United States of Europe
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Envelope-to: novell@suvm.bitnet
X-VMS-To: IN%"novell@suvm.bitnet"
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:46:21 -0500
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Gary Flynn <ACS_GARY@JMUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Can I tell a Laserwriter what zone to be in?

I am in the process of enabling Appletalk routing on our
Cisco and installing a NW for MAC 3.011 server. Both the
server and the router will be configured with multiple zones
per interface. Can I tell an Apple printer on the network to
place itself in a zone other than the default? How? Will the
configuration last through a power cycle? Thanks.

Gary Flynn
James Madison University
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: (no subject given)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:57:00 PST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Brian Olson <olson@YOSEMITE.CS.CSUFRESNO.EDU>

Chris Teuben (CAT@RC.RUG.NL) writes:
>I'm looking for other users of Tapeware 4.0 who want to share their
>experience with me.

Hi there!
I just read your mail regarding Tapeware 4.0.

>What is the current status of TW 4.0?

The latest version is 4.02.

Before I go on to tell what an incredible tape-backup solution
Tapeware is, I'll let you know what my bias is--I am a Tapeware
programmer.  (-:   I work for Emeritus Technologies Inc., the company
which sells and supports Tapeware.

Tapeware is an excellent choice for backing up Novell networks (we
just won PC Week's Product of the Year!).  We also backup OS/2, MAC and
NFS files.  We are also working hard on providing direct UNIX
support (I am the lead programmer in charge of making it work under UNIX).
We have a large staff exclusively dedicated to answering technical support
questions--I think you'll find we are probably the best in the biz regarding
after sale phone/fax support (judging from some of the complaints I read
on this list and others).  We also sell tape drives/controllers bundled
with our Tapeware software.

> Is there an Anonymous FTP site with patches and/or updates for TW 4.0?

As of right now, we aren't directly connected to the internet (I'm working
on it...), but you can call our 24-hour BBS listed below for patches/updates
etc.

If you (or anyone else) has any other questions, or just want to
say hi,  I would be very happy to reply--you can email me
direct or post to the list (I am a regular reader).   I'm originally
from a Unix background, and find talking with good 'ol Unix folks
quite refreshing!


Brian Olson
Emeritus Technologies Inc.
2750 N. Clovis Ave.
Fresno CA 93727 (U.S.A.)
(209) 292-8888
14400 baud BBS:  (209) 292-0541
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"NOVELL@SUVM.SYR.EDU",KETCHUM
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:51:22 GMT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         KETCHUM@ASA.ORG
Subject:      PCONSOLE - Problem deleting jobs

Having trouble with several Novell v3.11 print utilities:

First, when a new queue operator tries to delete (his own) printjob,
he gets the following message:

        Network Error on Server ASA2
         Error receiving from network
        Abort, Retry?

This user (no other) then must warm boot to get back to the network.
which is the reason I downloaded the latest Novell file "PUTIL.ZIP"
PCONSOLE.EXE    234,069    10-25-91    v1.52    old
PCONSOLE.EXE    234,069    10-28-92    v1.65    new
I have tried both to no avail.  What's going on?  I thought I'd ask you all
this question before I delete this Novell user and re-create him.


Second, I tried using the new PRINTCON.EXE thinking that newer might be better,
but when a new user was created, an existing printcon.dat copied, and then
edited, the workstation just hung.  Subsequently, going back I find the changes
were saved.  I tried it again and with the same results.
PRINTCON.EXE    161,071     1-26-91    v1.52    old
PRINTCON.EXE    161,071    10-28-92    v1.62    new


Lastly, what the hell happened to CAPTURE?  I tried this one, only to find out
that many users were experiencing "envioroment space" errors when trying to
capture to another printer.  And just look at the change in size.  I wouldn't
think running an executable would cause and environment space problem, as it
loads into coventional memory.
CAPTURE.EXE      49,505     1-28-91
CAPTURE.EXE     161,103    10-28-92
The readme file that accompanies this .ZIP indicates many of these files are
what is being shipped with Netware 3.11.  I've gone back to the old files and
fixed problems 2 and 3, but why does Novell do this?


Thanks in Advance to any answers/comments you care to send.

Chris Ketchum, Systems Coordinator              ketchum@asa.org
United States Antarctic Program                 (303)790-8606
Antarctic Support Associates
Englewood, Colorado
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Priority: normal
X-Mailer:     Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5).
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:29:15 +1200
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         KEVIN@CSC.CIT.AC.NZ
Organization: C.I.T.,  New Zealand
Subject:      Re: printdef,printcon to switch printer between postscript

> Howard A. Rollins, Jr. (HOWARD@FS1.PSY.EMORY.EDU) wrote:
> : We have a couple of nec printers (1 290 and 1 95) that can be
> : switched between postscript mode and HP's pcl printer language.  The
> : trick is to put printer in postscript mode and then send message to
> : shift to pcl and at the end of the print job send a pcl code to shift
> : back to postscript mode.  I have the codes to do this.  What I would

We tried to do this at one stage but found that a timeout is required
between sending the switch command and the start of the print job.
Unfortunatly you cannot get a pause into the print queue.....

Kevin

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Sartorelli      Central Institute of Technology, Computer Centre
kevin@cit.ac.nz       New Zealand     Ph: 4 527 6398   Fax: 4 527 6376
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
From: ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Subject: CAPTURE TI= option
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:59:26 GMT

I am new to NetWare printing features so I need to ask this very basic
question: why one need to set the timeout option when issuing the capture
command? The manual says if it is not set properly then there may be problme
when printing large files, something like someone printout may mix with
your printout.


It seems that this apply to even network version application like WP51. 
Is'nt there a way for the application to inform the system that, it has 
finish printing instead of having to use a timeout mechanism to print
anyway if there is no print command after a ceratin timeout value?
What exactly is the reason for this?

Is this a problem particular to NeWare only? Because, I do not remember
having such problem when I was managing another MS LAN Manager server
sometime back (in another company). But I do remember when there were
users using their non-network version of WordStar, they need to exit the
application before the network printer start to print, but when they are
using a network version, there is no such problem


Any comment is welcomed. Thank you in advance.

--
Wong Chee Heng
Systems Programmer
ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Envelope-to: novell@suvm.bitnet
X-VMS-To: IN%"novell@suvm.bitnet"
X-VMS-Cc: JRD
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:03:36 -0600
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Mirror site item

        Just a small detail, but worth stating right now.
        The various sites mirroring the NOVLIB material from
ftp.is.sandy.novell.com may start showing old familar files with 1993 year
markings. Not to worry, these are the same old familar files. The reason
for the new year marking is the way ftp Unix style DIR responses are
formatted without a year in most cases. Have a careful look the next time
you do an ftp. So, my mirror program says files with a month of now
but without a year get the current year's marking. Files dated to later
months (and without a year marking) are left alone. As the year wears on
eventually all the files will have 1993 stamped on them.
        There is also a bug in Novell's NFS time/date routines which results
in errors of a month and a day when the modification time of a file is on
the first of the month. So don't worry when you see 5-00-1992 on a few.
What the heck. When's the last time you wrote a piece of code which crosses
month boundaries correctly, or even does a time of day shift properly?
        Joe D.
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Organization: Duke Law School
Priority:     normal
X-Mailer:     Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4).
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:12:50 EST
Reply-To:     ken@faculty.law.duke.edu
From:         Ken Hirsh <KEN@FACULTY.LAW.DUKE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Novell/ODI & Memory For PC Gopher

Depending on the TELNET program you are using, you may be able
to load a slimmed down terminal program that doesn't use as much
memory.  For example, we use NCSA Telnet.  That set of programs
offers MINITEL, a bare bones VT100 emulator without any special
features, but I have run it successfully with PC Gopher 1.05.
__________
Kenneth J. Hirsh
School of Law Library
Duke University
Box 90361
Durham, NC 27708-0361
(919) 684-6182
ken@faculty.law.duke.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
From: x27@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (T. Voelkering)
Subject: Unix2NW printing w/ NNS+NFS1.2
Organization: University of Heidelberg (Germany)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 13:33:25 GMT

I have a problem with NetWare naming service and NFS 1.2 unix to NetWare
printing.
Here is my situation:

Two servers (A+B) in a naming service domain
Most print queues are physically present on server A.
The printserver PS is running on server A serving A + B.
NetWare NFS 1.2 installed on B

When I try to install the printing from a sun to server B I change the
/etc/printcap on the sun and there is no problem on the sun side.
Then I load plpdcfg on B.
  Select Print Queues for use by LPD
    -->  EMPTY LIST

So I dont get the printqueues out of the naming-domain.
What I can do is to install the printqueues on B. (Change to B in 
PCONSOLE and the insert queue). But I cant get this queues on B get 
serviced by the Printserver PS running on A.
With PConsole all queues can be seen on every server.

Is this problem known?

If anyone has an idea, please send me an email.

Many thanx in advance

Thomas

-- 


==========================================================================
	Thomas Voelkering	email:	x27@indigo0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de
X-Envelope-to: NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:10:30 -0500
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         KIM39@HUSC.BITNET
Subject: Re: Low Radiation screens

        Doubt it.  Well, if you're talking about the long-term effects
of electromagnetic emissions from monitors (not counting the visible light
part, which we usually try to maximize...), then it would be very hard to
say whether or not the new low-radiation monitors just being introduced
will prevent problems in the long-run.  Proving causality of sugh
problems is often difficult anyway, requiring large statistical samples
observed over years to be sure.

        If you're talking about eyestraing and headaches or miscariages,
then we may see results immediately (or within 9 months).

        One question: When measuring radiation from an evenly-emitting
point source, the intensity would decrease with the square of the
distance.  How close is this for something in which energies are focussed
in one direction?  I don't even know if monitors tend to throw all
their harmful radiation towrads the user (hence the MPRII standard
measures radiation in several directions--don't want to make your
co-worker glow).
-Case Kim
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.2 (R4).
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:27:28 PDT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Kevin Wang <KWANG%shakespr@ROMEO.LIBART.CALPOLY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NOT-LOGGED-IN - Where is it from?

> Ricard Wolf writes....
> >
> > All this is great, but what causes NOT-LOGGED-IN to appear in the first
> > place?
>
> You get the NOT-LOGGED-IN users if they have:
>
> 1. loaded NETx and found your fileserver, but not yet logged in anywhere.
> 2. logged out of all fileservers, and yours was the last.
> 3. attempted to login in to your fileserver incorrectly (this logs them out
>    of all other fileservers and makes yours the NOT-LOGGED-IN default).
>
> You do NOT get it if:
>
> 4. they are still logged in to another fileserver somewhere, whether or not
>    they have logged in/out of your fileserver.
> 5. they have followed either 1,2 or 3 and then unloaded NETx (NETx /U or
>    NETx /F).
>
> Obviously, you can try to enforce 4 or 5 to prevent these unwanted
> NOT-LOGGED-INs from using up your limit.

This may also be silly, but you will
6. also get one when a workstation is remote-booting and has NOT
   loaded NETx yet...

   - Kevin----
kwang%shakespr@romeo.libart.calpoly.edu
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:30:19 EST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Bob Smith <LBBSMITH@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Gopher

To Brandon and those of you reading my previous message
concerning not being able to run Gopher with NE2000 cards, you
can reach me here as:  lbbsmith@ecuvm.cis.ecu.edu   or
through Pegasus as:    bobsmi@joyner.lib.ecu.edu

Thanks,
Bob Smith
Academic Communication Support Services
East Carolina University
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:49:56 SET
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Milda Hampl <MILDA@CSPGCE11.BITNET>
Subject:      patches for Novel 2.20

Hi everyone,
            do you know where are the patches for Novell 2.20?
Thanks for every answer
                                    Milda
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:31:59 EST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Greg Monroe <MONROE@DUKEFSB.BITNET>
Subject:      OS/2 + ODINSUP.SYS + Proteon REQ39XR

We're starting to look at OS/2 here and I'm trying to get the NDIS
support to work with a Proteon p1390 Token ring card.  I have the ODI
OS/2 driver for this card and have "carefully" followed the instructions
in the Big Red manual  and then some.  For example, moving the ODINSUP.SYS
statement after the LAN driver (how can you support a protocol without a
card?),  instead of using NOVELL's wrong examples.  My net.cfg has all the
suggested changes and I've modified all the PROTOCOL.INI (and others used
by ES) and I still get the following message:

     MacName=[] : Using first REQ39XR MLID
     MCI0213 Unable to find named Adapter.

Either I'm doing something simple wrong (given the time this would not
be unlikely...), there is some undocumented "feature" I can't figure out,
or the Proteon Driver does not support NDIS (If this is so, why!  I thought
the ODI was designed to make drivers indepenent of protocols!)

Anyone out there have any suggestions?  Is anyone using Proteon cards with
ODINSUP.SYS under OS/2?  I'll supply the Net.cfg, etc. to anyone who want
it.

Thanks in advance,  BTW - IPX is working fine....

Greg Monroe  <Monroe@DukeFSB.BitNet>
Duke's Fuqua School of Business
Durham, NC  27708-0114
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Delivery-Notice:  SMTP MAIL FROM does not correspond to sender.
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:39:00 EST
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         CS06999 <CS06999@MONTCOLC.BITNET>
Subject:      ODINSUP and Win4Wgroups

mark writes...
> Hello everyone,
>
>         I hope you all had a wonderful holiday season.  Has anyone been able
> to get Windows for Workgroups to work using ODI and ODINSUP rather than it's
> own NDIS drivers? ...                                                 , but I
>        ... If no one has this working well, what would you recommend for a
> good (and cheap) TCP/IP package that works over NDIS?  I have spoken to
> NetManage ...                                                          I've

first part is a definate NO way didn't work for us either, but if some
one sends you the secret please send it to me or the list.

second we use Netmanage, the first copy cost only $99 if they think that
you are evaluating it for your institution. the next one was around $400
then the price began to drop as we bought more and more. now we are
paying around $200 which is very competitive, except with the free stuff

just curious as to why you want to use ODI instead of the NDIS stuff
that microsoft provided? I have been running it NDIS for several months
with nary a problem.

rick

cs06999@montcolc         +***************************************+
                         +                                       +
Rick Morrow              +                                       +
Montgomery College       +                                       +
51 Mannakee St           +                                       +
Rockville MD 20850       +                                       +
(301)-251-7234           +                                       +
(301)-251-7260 (fax)     +***************************************+

Marylands Largest Community College (NOW with capped enrollment!!!)
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:07:13 -0600
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         MSJLE@ECNUXA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Menuing packages. (Feedback requested)

Look for DougMenu 1.68 (I think as DMENU168.zip).  Sorry, I don't recall
the site.  Archie can probably find it for you.  If you can't find the
original anywhere, email back and I'll cobble together a .zip for you
from my system.

DMENU replaces Novell's menu.  It looks much the same but recent
versions require syntax changes before they will run a plain novell .mnu
file.  It's a lot more powerfull than Novell's and has better hooks into
Netware, and it uses *no* memory in the workstation.

--
Joi Ellis                      msjle@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Student Residential Programs   Western Illinois University
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
>From: TAEX003N!MGERST ("Mike Gerst")
X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.1c R5.
X-pmrqc:  1
Content-Type: text
Content-Length: 1514
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:33:06 CDT
Reply-To:     M-GERST@TAMU.EDU
From:         M-GERST@TAMU.EDU
Subject:      Frequent Lockups on Novell RAS

I have a Novell Remote Access Server which locks up whenever a user
improperly disconnects.  It will not answer calls thereafter and
must be powered off to start working again.

Here is what the system manager reports:
*********************************
The RAS seems to lack fault tolerance when a user exits improperly.
If a user logs out at the DOS prompt, OFFLAN does not
run and the session stays active.  If the user powers his
machine off (for whatever reason), OFFLAN does not run and the session
stays active.

I tried to use the USER PROFILE option which causes sessions to
timeout, but had no luck getting a session to timeout after a lockup
occurred.  I am getting 3-4 callers/day locking the thing up.  No time
to baby sit it anymore.
******************************

The RAS is configured as follows:

25MHz 386 isx, VGA monitor, 8MB ram, 16bit NIC at IRQ 2 and I/O 340,
one WNIM+ board, USRobotics V.32/v.32bis modem, DOS vers 5.0, and is
setup to default users to one local server.  Only ONLAN PC/Mac
sessions are supported.  The ethernet frame type is Ethernet_II.  The
version of Netware Access is 1.22.

I've been giving some consideration to changing the I/O to address
300 to make sure no confict with LPT1 is possible.  But haven't done
so yet...please note that no printer is attached to the RAS
computer.


Thanks for your suggestions in advance...




Michael D. Gerst
Associate Professor and Extension Computer Specialist
Internet:  m-gerst@tamu.edu
Voice:  409-845-9689
Fax:  409-845-6496
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Via: uk.ac.manchester.computer-science; Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:04:40 +0000
X-Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect
X-Disclaimer: those of Barclays Bank Plc.
Priority: normal
X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R4).
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:00:33 GMT
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Rod Wilson <Rod.Wilson@BARCLAYS.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: MCA SCSI-2 Controllers

> I am looking for a 32 bit Micro Channel SCSI-2 controller to work in a PS/2
> model 95 running 3.11.
>
> Any recommendations?
>
Hi there,

Try the BusTek BT-640A MCA SCSI Host Adapter. It is 32bit, SCSI-2
and very hot!

The company MAY now be called BusLogic (not BusTek).

Hope this helps.


Rod.Wilson@barclays.co.uk      "My opinions are my own
Barclays Bank Plc               and do not reflect those
England                         of my company".
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU