HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jd@dickens.com (Joe Dudar)
Subject: scf font files
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:52:37 GMT
Organization: Dickens Data Systems, Inc.

	I need some information on .scf font files.  I have an HP 9000/800
which has quite a few of these on it, and I'd like to be able to convert them
to .snf format so that they'll be compatible with a particular X server.
Thanks...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gordon@madmax.uwaterloo.ca (Gordon R. Strachan)
Subject: Re: HP's elm loses messages
Keywords: HP elm bug
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:54:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.132611.164480@dstos3.dsto.gov.au> vaughan@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Vaughan Clarkson) writes:
>We are encountering an insidious bug in HP's implementation of elm (the default
>mailer on our system).  It seems that if, after editing a message for delivery,
>you hit the 's' button (for send), and then quit immediately, the mail never
>gets sent even though the messages 'Sending mail...' and then 'Mail sent!'
>appear to comfort the user.
>
>This is an extremely annoying bug, and though I have warned people on our net
>about quitting too quickly from elm, mail still gets lost this way.
>
>We're running a cluster with a HP 730 as the server, and HP 720s as clients.
>The OS is HP-UX 8.07, although we noticed the bug when we had 8.05 as well.
>
>Has anyone else noticed this bug?  Or, better, know how to fix it?

I have noticed this problem as well.  It only occures when you are using
elm from the VUE workspace manager.  What appears to happen is when you
execute the send command, elm launches a background process (most likely
sendmail) to do the delivery.  You then do a quite which closes the window
and seems to have the side effect of killing elm's children before they have
delivered the mail.

Anyway, that is my guess at it.

Gordon

From: chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:01:06 GMT
Subject: Re: X Windows on 9000/710
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> Perhaps you have a point, but my ORIGINAL complaint was...still is...that
> header files that were supposed to come with my system are NOT there.
> Specifically, my 710s have come preconfigured with X and Motif.  I have
> the standard /usr/lib/Motif1.1 directory and the proper libraries, but
> there's no /usr/include/Motif1.1 to be found.  You know...all those
> Xm/*.h files.  They just are NOT on my system and they should be.  Before 
> someone comments that I just haven't looked in the right directory, I want you
> to know that I've  really scoured the entire system.  Nevertheless, I'm
> still open to suggestions about the problem.

You must've missed my first response to your basenote: 

] >     This may be a FAQ:
] > 
] >     It seems that our newly arrived HP workstations aren't quite completely
] >     ready for X programming.  I'm not completely sure what we're missing, but
] >     it appears like many, many header files.  Common problem?  What's the 
] >     fix?
] 
] 
] Yow! Yes, it's common, and the fix is to... (never mind).
] 
] You need to get the developer's bundle that includes the "real" C
] compiler and X header files and archive libraries.
] 
] Sorry I can't provide part numbers. Anyone else?
 


 			-- Chan Benson
 			HP Fort Collins
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: HP's elm loses messages
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:20:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.132611.164480@dstos3.dsto.gov.au>
vaughan@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Vaughan Clarkson) writes:

:Has anyone else noticed this bug?  Or, better, know how to fix it?

I never noticed the bug.  After 5 minutes of having root on my HP-UX
system, I built Elm 2.3 PL 11 and things started working again.  My
suggestion is that you do the same.  I see all these "odd patch
levels" coming out of HP, but Elm 2.3 PL 11 striles me as less buggy.

						...Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: peter@astol.astro.lu.se (Peter Linde)
Subject: root access over NFS
Originator: peter@astol.astro.lu.se
Organization: Lund Observatory, Sweden
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:04:55 GMT


As super-user I want to have root access rights also on NFS mounted file
systems, belonging to another HP machine.  In SunOS it is implemented
by setting appropriate flags in the Sun's exports file. Is there any solution 
under HP-UX?

Peter Linde
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: markd@cup.hp.com (Mark_Donohoe)
Subject: Re: Mysterious load on HP9000/730
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:58:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Duncan Gibson (duncan@yc.estec.esa.nl) wrote:
: I will re-state the problem, summarise the responses, and then tell you
: the current status...
: 
: In article <1992Sep3.064444.21989@yc.estec.esa.nl> I wrote:
: >I have noticed a mysterious quirk of one of our system which is not
: >serious, but which I am curious about. (So I havn't called the CRC).
: >
: 
: In the week since the upgrade to 8.07 I have not noticed the phantom
: load (but I think that it has gone). So my advice is to upgrade to 8.07.
: 
I wish I could say that that will make it better...I have seen this at
various times since 6.5(on a 300) and on 8.05 AND 8.07 (S700)  I have a 720
with 64MB, standalone and have seen it.  My suspect some type of memory
leak...as I use Framemaker 3.0 and it has a known leak, and it is possible
that some other X program does as well, or the X server....I have only
seen it once and cleaning up things and rebooting seemed to make it go
away....it is weird, in that the machine is not bothered by it...(doesn't
get slower) and you can put a 'load' on it with not much effect...(e.g. 1.5, 
2.0)

I also noticed that when this happened, monitor was reporting a lot of memory
usage (I use VUE, sharedX, Frame and keep quite a few windows and remote
connections...)...then after the reboot and restarting just about everything
that was running before, there is less memory usage....

Someday in my copius(sp) spare time I will have to look into this. :-)
--
Mark Donohoe (markd@cup.hp.com)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: davidb@zeus.ce.washington.edu (David W. Barts)
Subject: Re: /usr/mail/glenr.lock not creatable after 10 tries
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:09:32 GMT

In article <TT.92Sep10141025@tarzan.jyu.fi>, tt@tarzan.jyu.fi (Tapani Tarvainen) writes:
> I think even HP sendmail can be configured not to use /bin/mail
> (actually it uses /bin/rmail, btw), if you have something to replace
> it with.  It's defined in the line beginning with Mlocal in
> sendmail.cf.  (Warning: meddling with sendmail.cf without knowing what
> you are doing can be hazardous to your mail.)

Indeed you can.  I've done this on my HP workstation when I put biff
and comsat on it (comsat expects to be notified by the local mail
delivery agent).

One sendmail item I haven't looked at is attempting to fix the "From
daemon" problem that afflicts HP's.  Is there an easy way to fix this?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gaute@stud.cs.uit.no (Gaute Nessan)
Subject: Re: network backup failures
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:24:07 GMT

In article <STEINAR.HAUG.92Sep14191906@delab.sintef.no> Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug) writes:
>
>The "standard" version of dump that HP gave you in 7.0 was rather slow (I
>haven't checked whether this is still the case in 8.0) - however, you can
>get the *sources* to a faster version of dump, as modified by the good folks
>at HP labs (but not supported by HP), from hpserv1.uit.no. Recommended.
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The address has changed to ftp.cs.uit.no, the file is:
	pub/util/4.3rdump_for_hpux.tar.Z

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dieh1232@w251zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Rolf Diehl)
Subject: Looking for utility to read SDF (Signal Analyzer files)
Organization: ZRZ der TU-Berlin
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:35:55 GMT

Hallo netters,
I am not sure whether this is the right newsgroup for the topic?

I am looking for a utility to read data created with the hp35665A with a
hp900/345. There are some DOS-programs included, but I would rather use
the workstation. I would want to use either a stand-alone application or
subroutines for hp-Basic, fortran or PVI-WAVE(IDL).

regards and thanks in advance,
 	rolf.

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From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:47:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Problem setting clientAutoPlace in HP Motif!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> I am having a problem with setting the Motif resource "clientAutoPlace"
> in HP Motif.  I set the resource in my .Xdefaults file as follows:
> 
> 	Mwm*clientAutoPlace:            False
> 	Mwm*defaults*clientAutoPlace:   False

> I have no problems with this on Sun Motif and IBM Motif.  Does the vue 
> manager save or change clientAutoPlace so that is overriding my setting?

The vuewm window manager uses resources of the class Vuewm.  You need to set

Vuewm*clientAutoPlace:  False

Vuewm uses xrdb and saves xrdb settings along with the rest of session
information.  You should set resources with "xrdb -merge" or the
RES_EDIT action.  The RES_EDIT action is under the applications button
of the front panel.  Within applications select the system_apps folder,
then the X11_apps folder, then the RES_EDIT icon.  The RES_EDIT action
will query the current xrdb settings, edit a temporary file with those
settings, then load the edited file with xrdb -load.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.hp:10213 gnu.emacs.help:4056
From: shankar@wpd.sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: unexec anomally when compiling GNU
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:13:35 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

The Wizard of Ozje - Garf (rlyle@nl.oracle.com) wrote:

> 	2)  In src/unexhp9k800.c it gives me:
> cc: "unexhp9k800.c", line 88: error 1539: Cannot do arithmetic with
> pointers to objects of unknown size.
> 
> Now, I can make it compile via judicious (unsigned int) casting, but the
> executable core dumps with the slightest hint of you asking it to run.

No wonder. What was happening was probably arithmetic with (void *).
You want to convert to (char *), *NOT* (int *).
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From: shoe@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Jim Schumacher)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 01:30:05 GMT
Subject: Re: C++ Task Library for HP 700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp


>Has anyone successfully used the C++ Task Library on HP 700's (PA-RISC)?
>The library and documentation are present, but whenever I try to use it,
>it crashes the workstation!  We're running HP-UX Version 8.07.
>----------

I assume you are using pre-3.0 bits? For pre-3.0 bits, the task library
does not work with shared libraries. You can have /usr/lib/libdld.sl
but that is all. At 3.0 the task library was modified to work with
shared libraries. 

If you have other problems, you need to report them through whatever
support channel is available. 

jim shoe 
Cal Lang Lab


From: darrylo@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:07:09 GMT
Subject: Re: Problems with Spice on HP Workstations
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, warren@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Warren Yamauchi) writes:

>  We have compiled Spice3e2 on our HP 9000 Series 400 workstations. Spice
>  compiles with no errors and runs fine when not used with X windows. When
>  used with X windows, two carriage returns are needed before Spice
>  starts processing a command. Has anyone experienced this problem?
>  The HP workstations are runing HPUX 8.0 and X11R4. 

     It's a bug in Spice3e2.  The problem is that X11 Spice3e2 is using
select(2) with BUFFERED input routines.  Here's a quickie patch for
spice3e2/src/lib/cp/lexical.c:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
*** /tmp/,RCSt1a28949	Tue Sep  8 14:05:39 1992
--- lexical.c	Thu Aug 27 11:53:54 1992
***************
*** 313,319
      char c;
      int i;
  
! #ifdef TIOCSTI
      if (cp_interactive && !cp_nocc) {
        do {
  	i = read((int) fileno(fp), &c, 1);

--- 313,319 -----
      char c;
      int i;
  
! #if defined(TIOCSTI) || defined(__hpux)
      if (cp_interactive && !cp_nocc) {
        do {
  	i = read((int) fileno(fp), &c, 1);
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I think that this is all you need.

     -- Darryl Okahata
	Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com

DISCLAIMER (unoriginal): This message is the author's personal opinion
and does not constitute the support, opinion or policy of
Hewlett-Packard.  Any resemblance between the above views and those of
the author's employer, his terminal, or the view out his window are
purely coincidental.  Any resemblance between the above and his own
views is non-deterministic.  The question of the existence of views in
the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the
reader.  The question of the existence of the reader is left as an
exercise for the second god coefficient.  (A discussion of
non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this
article.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (The Code Slinger)
Subject: Graphics? on HP500C inkjet color printer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  hp500c graphics
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:34:00 GMT

I recently purchased an HP500C printer for my Amiga and have been
playing around with printing on it using the printer driver I managed
to find somewhere.

However, my question concerns the escape sequences dealing with the
graphics modes on the printer.  I was playing around this weekend to
see if I could print some rectangular grid for purposes of making one
or more forms.

I managed to get it to do so, but only one "raster" line at a time.
Quite wasteful.  I would like to print, what, eight or nine "rasters"
at a time, to reduce the print head passes on the paper.  All I have to
work with is the table in Appendix B in one of the books that came with
it.  I tried the compression modes, but I couldn't figure out how they
worked.

Can anybody help me?  I'm just sending a file containing the escape
sequences and data to the printer from my computer.  That should work
fine, as long as I can find the right sequences to do what I want.

Thanx,
   Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: lapp@waterloo.hp.com
 (David Lapp)
Subject: Re: X-terminals/SoftPC 3.0 for 730
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:43:41 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

Kevin Nechodom (knechod@stacc.med.utah.edu) wrote:
: I got two questions for the net.
: 
: 1) I've got 2 700/RX Model 19Mi, and I just read that HP introduced a
:    grey-scale Model 19Ga.  Is it possible to easily upgrade an Mi to
:    Ga?  I know that the monitor won't have a problem.
:
There is an upgrade available that in terms of the final result
will do what you want. This upgrade is designed for people
who own a 700/X terminal and wish to upgrade it to a newer
700/RX. It provides a new base unit (ie. the X terminal
proper). You use the keyboard, mouse, monitor, and cables that
you already have.

Since this upgrade is designed for the older 700/X units
you would get to keep your existing base unit (ie. we
didn't know what to do with the traded in 700/Xs) The 
downside of this is that the price of this upgrade won't 
be quite as low as the price would be if you actually 
returned your baseunit to HP for a credit. In the long run
you may be better off just buying the 19Ga. The (possible)
upside is that you may be able to get keyboards and mice
(not too hard I shouldn't think) and mono monitors (tougher)
and end up with 2 mono and 2 grayscale X terminals.

If you want to check with your sales rep. the part number
you want is C2714A. Don't be put off by the description
of this product as a "Color High-Performance Upgrade"
(which is what it is supposed to be).

Hope that helps,

Dave Lapp

P.S. I you do go this route remember to configure the base unit
for the correct monitor. It will appear to work out of the box
but will be configured as it were a color unit.

Standard Disclaimer ... I'm not an official representative
of HP and the above doesn't represent the official policy
of HP.
From: stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Monitor source code available for HP-UX8.07
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:49:25 GMT
Organization: Tivoli Systems, Inc

In article <92251.151140MICHEL@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, MICHEL@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Michel Gaillard) writes:
|> Hello there,
|> 
|> We have the binary for monitoring our HP-UX systems but we would like
|> to know (cf post on uarea info) how process info is extracted !
|> Can we have access to the C (or whatever) source code of this
|> beautiful monitor ?
|> Many thanks in advance..

I doubt HP will give out the source to monitor, but you can get much
of the same data with the pstat() system call.

Its undocumented, but works quite well.

See /usr/include/sys/pstat.h

stuart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu (John S. O'Conner)
Subject: Re: X Windows on 9000/710
Organization: Brigham Young University, Utah
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 01:49:01 GMT

In article <17780237@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson) writes:
>>[FREE HINT to HP:  You are really annoying your customers and developing
>>	a horrid reputation with customers for not including ALL of the
>>	freely distributable X11 libraries, headers, and build utilities
>>	-- like Imake.  I tell everyone I see about my experience with HP. ]
>
>I don't want to get into a shouting match about what should or shouldn't
>be distributed. However, it should be no surprise to developers that
>this stuff isn't there. Here's a quote from the Xmu README file:
>
>+ This library contains miscellaneous utilities and is not part of the Xlib
>+ standard.  It contains routines which only use public interfaces so that it
>+ may be layered on top of any proprietary implementation of Xlib or Xt.
>+ 
>+ It is intended to support clients in the MIT distribution; vendors
>+ may choose not to distribute this library if they wish.  Therefore,
>+ applications developers who depend on this library should be prepared to
>+ treat it as part of their software base when porting.
>
>			-- Chan Benson
>			HP Fort Collins


Perhaps you have a point, but my ORIGINAL complaint was...still is...that
header files that were supposed to come with my system are NOT there.
Specifically, my 710s have come preconfigured with X and Motif.  I have
the standard /usr/lib/Motif1.1 directory and the proper libraries, but
there's no /usr/include/Motif1.1 to be found.  You know...all those
Xm/*.h files.  They just are NOT on my system and they should be.  Before 
someone comments that I just haven't looked in the right directory, I want you
to know that I've  really scoured the entire system.  Nevertheless, I'm
still open to suggestions about the problem.

Regards,
John
ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: Allowing DecServer terminals to use HP9000's
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:42:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.190051.1587@candle.uucp>, root@candle.uucp (Bruce Momjian) writes:
> A VMS system has over 200 terminals connected via DecServer200/300/500's
> to a VAX/VMS system using LAT over ethernet.  They are adding an HP9000
> system running HP-UX and want to know the best way to allow those
> terminals to use the HP and VMS systems.
> 

What we did was to change out all of the DecServers to Emulex Performance
4000s which talk both LAT and TC-PIP. Then from the server, the users can
Telnet into the Unix machines, and still connect to the VAXs using LAT.

Xyplex also makes a server that will do that.

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From: k@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Steve Kao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Can a 700 print to an ethernet printer?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:13:23 GMT
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division

Chuck,

You might also check out the comp.periphs.printers notes group for more
information.  The IIISi is often discussed in that notes group.

- Steve Kao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp