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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:33:58 -0500
From:         Melicent Tlucek Bryarly <melicent@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Very confused former subscriber
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> > > this IS a fun place for those with the time, personality, inclination,
> > > chest [for the obligatory words-l tshirt], etc.....
> > >
> > > dan in potatoland
> > Who has TIME? it is only what you make of it.....I'm supposed to be
> > finishing a high school yearbook with my students.....what am I DOING in
> > the Blue Moon Saloon sooooooo early?
> > Melicent
>
> That's what I'd like to know! :-)
> ndh (who has finished 0 page this week and will be working like crazy for
> the next two weeks)
Oh, well
Melicent
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:34:00 EST
From:         Adam Hartfield <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Picture of Giggles (was Re: Eating Whales)
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>I don't photograph well.... in fact, not at all.  I stand in front
>of a mirror and..... *nothing*.....  Oh, dear, now I am very
>depressed.
>--ggs

and you <are fibbing like McGee>, you charlatan...I've got two or three very
nice pictures with you in them.  Elaine will also soon have them, so
we'll both have <proof> that you were there.

--Adam
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:25:04 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Craftsmanship
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>I commend to your attention a story in the July 20th issue of -The New
>Yorker- entitled "Do the Windows Open?"  The author manages to catch
>precisely the voice of a person who has a paranoid obsession, just hovering
>on the edge of sanity, but who speaks in a matter-of-fact tonethat seems to
>be utterly reasonable
Oh, dear. I hated it! And I hated the one last year, about
the same woman going out to photograph a doctor up in Connecticut
somewhere.

>Incredibly, the story can best be
>classified as humor.  I know i kept laughing... the sort of laugh you do
>when an eccentric you know does something totally in character.  I had the
>feeling that I *knew* this person -- had met her, talked with her, etc..
>the character could even have been me, just a *little* bit exaggerated :-).
I hope not. I know this woman, and I can't stand her!
There is *nothing* you can do for her that will be ok,
nothing! Everything is going to be a disaster, and nothing
you can say or do will help.

>I read the story once for sheer enjoyment, again and again for "How did
>she (the author) *DO* that?!"
I guess it's a gift, to be able to create a living character,
no matter how obnoxious...

judith, Literary Critic :-(
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: lenny
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>Frankly, comparing ggs to Lenny is the silliest thing I have ever heard.
>Whoever made this statement should mention at least one point of similarity
>between the two.

	I didn't make the comparison.

	Their surnames both have five letters.

[Tushar's and mine both have six]
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:55:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: <sigh>
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About the current disagreement about the Mac/PC superiority,
I just have *one* thing to say:
.
      EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT A MAC IS A TOY
.
    (sort of a fancy Atari...................)
.
--ggs (waiting for the fit to hit the shan on that one....)
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:03:16 EDT
From:         Anne Diffily <ADBAM@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      No baby yet!
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I scanned subject headings of the weekend's Words-L mail and noticed
my name (well, my Userid, anyway!)...    Thanks to all who have
wondered about me these past few weeks.  Bayla's call was a
delightful surprise, and it has been fun, and comforting, to hear
from Nancy about her daughter's recent childbirth and her present
joy with that beautiful baby girl.

As Bayla and Nancy said, the doc let me get up for "moderate
activity" after 4.5 days abed, and kept me on the medication.
I came back to work half-days and, beginning last Thursday,
full days.  Originally the plan was to stop the meds this past
weekend, but the doc I saw on Friday (it's one of those group
ob/gyn practices) said, "Let's stay on it another week -- I like
to get the baby within 3 weeks of your due date to rule out any
problems with the lungs."  I was so relieved!  So I'm still hanging
in here, using this bonus time to try to get as much in order at
work as I can, not to mention at home.

My bag is packed and when I discontinue the medication this coming
Saturday (*after* we attend the morning wedding of a neighbor and
close friend!), I'll be as ready as anyone can be for whatever
develops.

Those few days confined to bed and couch were torture.  My heart
goes out to anyone who, for any reason, is an invalid or on
long-term bed rest...  It might sound heavenly to be ordered to
lie down full-time and read books, but it pales *very* quickly,
particularly when the household is going about "business as usual"
and one's little girl wants to be picked up and held and fussed
over.  I'm more than ever appreciative of being ambulatory!

      - Anne
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Car Lust

Whatta buncha woosies!  Get a REAL "sports" vehicle:  Four-wheel drive, dual
speed transfer case, 'Roo guard, and torque up the yang!  It will also suck
up $15k like a Hoover...

JMW, who just sold his '68 Land Crusher after 20 years together, and can't wait
to do it in the dirt once more...  Sniff.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:21:07 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: <sigh>
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> 	You probably saved it to the same folder as the ftp program is
> located in.  Use Find File under the File menu to search for it.  I usually

No, you can't write to the hard disks of the lab computers.  I realized
pretty quickly where I screwed up, though.  I forgot that Macs don't
understand normal talk and told it a:filename.  So it was saved nowhere.
Fortunately, when I went back to the lab after lunch, some handsome and
gallant computer-angels saved me.  That, of course, was after I ranted
and raved at them and waved my empty disk in the air in the cafeteria.

They even tried to teach me things about Macs, but I hope I never need to
touch one again.  A Mac, that is.  I wouldn't mind touching the handsome
and gallant computer-angels.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:30:56 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      ehsya ackbay
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With a giggle here and a giggle there
Everywhere a giggle giggle
And a giggling good time was had by all.
Doris (who thinks everyone must be IRCing tonight)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:40:00 CDT
From:         "tk0jut1@mvs.cso.niu.edu jim thomas"
 <TK0JUT1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      But is she a feminazi??

       > This guy, my colleague, spoke of the
       >woman's exceptional beauty, and indicated that he felt it enhanced
       >her teaching.


(sigh)!! A tactful word to the wise about the dangers of potential
sexual harassment might be in order. Did the woman see the letter?

Jim ("beauty enhances teaching??") Thomas
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Okay, what's the opposite?
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>of a written text.  Do we talk about the literality of speech?? Or what?

Of course we do. Some of the wittiest wordplay imaginable happens when speakers
attempt to recreate in speech the writing style of some famous author.

>"If each wordsler wrote a paragraph of my diss, would I be done?"

No, but I bet you could get each wordsler to diss you a paragraph at a time :-)

-abh
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: birth order
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>I was rereading _The Birth Order Book_ the other day, and just wondered
>how many other wordslers are serious, dependable firstborns?
>ndh (who would have much preferred to be a second child)

	Serious, dependable first-born here, son of two first-borns, and
	spouse of a first-born.

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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:41:53 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Social Security
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              92 4:39 pm

> I believe that Rita is fundamentally in error when she says
> that ss#s are not to be used for identification.  It seems

	Gee, Karen, didn't you read the thing that Graham forwarded to
the list?


Czarina
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:16:00 EST
From:         Clinton and Gore in 92 <185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Quote of the day.

I was reading a book on law and I came upon this quote:


Justice is incidental to law and order.


-J. Edgar Hoover



later


alec
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From:         "Pat Gathright" <patg@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: birth order
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On Wed, 29 Jul 1992, Nancy Harwood wrote:

> I was rereading _The Birth Order Book_ the other day, and just wondered
> how many other wordslers are serious, dependable firstborns?
> ndh (who would have much preferred to be a second child)
	I was the first born but only by four minutes. My twin brother,
Michael, was alway the quiet one  and not as involved in school
activities as I was. He worked to save money for a car which he *never* let
me drive.
--Patricia Lynn (whose name would have been Michele if Michael hadn't
arrived)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:33:22 CDT
From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Post Clambake IRC
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>We should, I think, study the phenomenon of list-persona-phase-shifts
>carefully, by continuing to arrange occasional random meetings of
>physical personae (? I'm not too good with Latin plurals ?) and

Funny thing you should mention that, Robymeister....

Not physical, but real-time meetings between Wordslers can be (and have been)
conducted via IRC. A few of us have been getting together on the Chat recently
and it has been a blast. The channel we've been using is #bandwidth, and most of
the time I've been op, but some of the Wordslers have been acting surly lately
and have been usurping my op privs and using them to threaten me. :-)

I think we should arrange a Words-L night on IRC. Who's up for it, and what time
should it begin? I would suggest 7:00 Central on Thursday night.

And for those of you who don't have the IRC client, Rita may have some words of
encouragement for you...

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:46:00 EDT
From:         "PLOTKIN, ALEC DAVID" <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sea World (was re: Gleanings (54
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>Neal asks:

 >  Don's confused.  Colonel Grissom just turned 44.

 >  Hmmm, does that make September 14 the date I should circle in my pocket
 >  calendar?

>No, September 16 and it's 29, not 44.

>;-)

>//anne//

I must say, you looked a few years younger then that at the clambake. I
thought maybe 26 or 27.

later

alec
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From:         Adam Hartfield <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hi
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>hi guys

Hi Pru!  Decided to see what we're really like, eh?

--Adam/LH
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:17:11 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: email texts (was One Reason [etc.])
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> So, a post with masses of quoted lines can be read in only a little more

I have a method that takes care of them even faster than that. :-)  If I
see a full screen of quoted lines, I hit 'd'.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:19:04 EDT
From:         kieran2101@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: No grass on interstate
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Here in West-by-God-Virginia, they've been blanketing the medians of the
Interstates with "West Virginia Wildflowers", most sponsored by local
fraternities and the like.  It's all quite....purple....

--Aaron
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I hate to be picky but, MARLBORO  is the proper spelling.
Phillip Morris is the maker.



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alec
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Please ignore
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>From: "Ronald D. White" <rowhite@WRDIS01.AF.MIL>
>Subject: Please ignore

>test

	Ron, I'd tell you that your message (and the nice Letterman commentary
	on 'they' = 'Van Patten') was coming through loud and clear, but since
	I'm ignoring it, I won't.

	Welcome to WORDS-L...

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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:44:10 EDT
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: My Mac can do these...
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On Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:26:03 CDT, "Frank Peters" <fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU> wrote:
> Is there some particular reason to use "stole" rather than the more
> accurate "legally acquired the right to use"?  They no more "stole"
> xerox interface elements than GNU "stole" unix interface elements.

Yes, there is.  There's a classic statement somewhere from Steve Jobs
where he admits he got a lot of the ideas from a visit he made once
to Parc.  Maybe somebody remembers the magazine interview I'm thinking
of.  There are vast chunks of Xerox look-and-feel in the Mac that
were never licenced.  However if anyone copies Apple look-and-feel
they're taken to court for stealing the interface.  As if interfaces
have any right to protection.  Code, yes; artistic works, yes; but
the concept of a trash can - you must be joking.

> I can certainly agree with this part.  Too many people, though, use
> their disagreement with this particular aspect of Apple as an excuse to
> slam unfairly about other unrelated issues (like where they got
> elements of their interface).

Unrelated?  It's the same issue.  "Do as i say, not as I do..."

G
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:08:51 EDT
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Kosher ( was Sea World )
              28 Jul 1992 09:52:26 EDT from <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:52:26 EDT Judith E. Schrier said:

>Ha! Nancy is not Jewish. We drank milk with fish, but not with
>*meat*! We drank soda pop with meat. To this day, I can't drink
>milk with meat. I *can* eat meat and cheese together (e.g.,
>lasagna), and I can drink milk with a ham sandwich, but not
>with a roast beef sandwich. (Ham isn't "meat", of course; it's
>just Chazerei.)

Kosher rules are full of surprises and quirks.  How about fish with
meat ?  Turns out it's legal, but - well no one does it.  Chicken
with milk ?  Why isn't chicken parve (i.e. goes with milk or meat) ?
Birds don't give milk.

I find this fascinating.  I have Jewish friends who vary all the way
from strictly kosher (if the appropriate rabbi didn't pronounce on
it, no go), to one who will eat from the same dish in a Chinese
restaurant that contains shrimp, as long as he doesn't actually
eat any of the shrimp, to "beef and cheese at the same meal are OK
as long as they're not mixed in a cheeseburger", to anything goes
(but doesn't like the *taste* of butter on a roast beef sandwich).

Much as I like to poke gentle fun at my friends for these quirks,
I think all this is a microcosm of religion in general.

Tony H.
(Who still thinks McDonald's cheeseburgers should be parve)
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Subject:      Re: .tar.z?

The formula I use is

	zcat filename.tar.z [or Z] | tar xvfo -

Ken
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From:         Bernard Chien Perro <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WAKE UP!!!
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> Be cool, O most noble hound!  I thiiiink the listserv is coming back
> up.  Hell, you haven't lived until your entire Internet link is down:

Back in my days as Bitnet Beagle (before I became Internet Animal), I
had that kind of experience often -- like just about every weekend when
the line from UGA to Georgia Tech got clogged, cutting us off from almost
the whole e-world.  That's when I had a very tacky signature file depicting
me doing something nasty to UGA.  Later I found out that it was Georgia
Tech's fault.
                        o/.\____/
         -- Bernard      \______|
                         / \  / \
From: venkates@frankel.hep.upenn.edu
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Date: 27 Jul 92 23:52:00 GMT
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In article <9207271844.AA13325@fernwood.mpk.ca.us>, Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM writes:
|> >The question I'd like answered is whether Tushar is
|> >himself aware of his writing style, if he writes like that because he genuinely
|> >believes that is what should be done, or if he does so out of some finely hewn
|> >sense of humor, a perpetual in-joke between his list persona and his real self.
|> 
|>      I have spent a good deal of time and energy investigating this
|>      question, and I have regretfully concluded that tushar has no
|>      sense of humor whatsoever.
|> 
|>      By the way, does tushar know that a foul-mouthed street urchin
|>      and someone who claims to admire _The Magus_ have recently been
|>      posting under his name?
|> 
|>      Carol

<*Jeeeeeeezzz!*.
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>From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
>
>Stay on the proper side of town, and occasionally go out and get a Subway
>Club sandwich with the cookies on the side. :-)
>Doris

The Subway's around here went out of bidness because there
are REAL sammich places all over.  And REAL bakeries.

Jenna sammich snot
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sea World (was re: Gleanings (54
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>> no way! here's someone jumping the gun ... couldn't possibly
>> be as illustriously aged as even is ggs the colonel.
>>                                         (who claims 54)
>> don                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>It's the <gospel truth>, at least for the next 48 days.
>--ggs (wondering how he got to be colonel......?)

Don's confused.  Colonel Grissom just turned 44.

Hmmm, does that make September 14 the date I should circle in my pocket
calendar?

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From: venkates@frankel.hep.upenn.edu
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Subject: Re: big league plagiarism
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:54:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Physics Department

Suppose in the preface of a novel I see the author writing something like
"chapters ## are an amiable imitation of Flaubert" (and he probably added
"as the reader will recognise", blast him, and darn if I remember the book)
-- however, if he says so, why is he not accused of plagiarism?

--venkatesh




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