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From:         "W.C. DIVENS" <N93774@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 3-M Security gates

2 possibilities to cure the pin problem:

[1] replace the old shear-pin gates with the clutch gates.
[2] see if there is a local shop  which can manufacture the pins
        for you.  I think they are 1/4' aluminum stock, and they
        can be made for considerably less than .35 each.  All it
        takes is a lathe and some time.  Got a vo-tech school nearby?
        Give 'em a call...

Rustbelt Bill
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From:         ljmaclean@UCDAVIS.BITNET
Subject:      The weather

Well, I haven't read the rest of my mail yet, but I couldn't resist replying!

We sure could do with some of your rain!!  Here in California (where today
in the Sacramento Valley the temp. is about 102 f) we get tired of the fires,
the dust and the heat.

Send some of your rain this way, OK?  then we'll all be happy.

Lucia MacLean
U C Davis
LJMACLEAN@octavo.ucdavis.edu
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From:         Molly Drahn <MDRAHN@OREGON.BITNET>

RE:  STUDENT EMPLOYEES
My feeling is that hiring the right people to begin with saves a great
deal of head and heartache.  We do not have to hire every workstudy
student who comes our way - they can get a job elsewhere on campus
before we have to deal with disciplinary dismissal.  Careful interviewing
does not ALWAYS screen out people who turn out to be less-than-useful
employees, but goes a long way toward ensuring the library's reputation
as a discriminating (opps, wrong word.  I mean DISCERNING) employer with
high standards of performance.  At the University of Oregon Architecture
and Allied Arts Library I end up dismissing a couple of people a year,
even though they came with good references and represented themselves
well in interviews.  But since expectations are made clear at the outset
of their employment, no hard feelings ensued becsause of the dismissal -
usually, anyway1!

Molly Drahn            phone: 503-346-2208
Access Services Manager
AAAA Library           Bitnet: mdrahn@oregon
Univ of Oregon         Internet: mdrahn@oregon.uoregpn.edu
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From:         ljmaclean@UCDAVIS.BITNET
Subject:      Patron confidientiality

In reply to Janet Patterson's message:

>What would happen if you had an operator error and an * was entered instead
>of a 0?  Do you forsee any serious complications arising?

Well, I guess there sure could be some serious complications arising !
Luckily, this has never happened.  That I've heard of anyway, and I've been
here for 8 years.


We could probably get sued if the patron wished to pursue it that far.

Lucia MacLean
Carlson Health Sciences Library
University of California, Davis
LJMACLEAN@octavo.ucdavis.edu

Oh by the way -- I got messages that your address was invalid....
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From:         June DeWeese <ELSJUNE@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Patron records

The University of Missouri-Columbia is not a NOTIS site, so I don't know
how helpful this will be for most of you, but we have different levels of
security (with passwords) and we do not make our patron's personal information
generally available to other departments in the Libraries. Our Name/Address
system is accessible by only those who "need to know" and does not even
include all of the staff in Circulation. The University of Missouri has a
strongly worded statement titled "Obligations to Protect Confidential Student
Information" which is based on the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act
of 1974 and one part states "If UMC fails to follow the guidelines...,
the Federal Department of Education may withdraw funding at UMC and the
employee involved may be disciplined or terminated."  That is pretty clear
to me and we abide by it. Anyone wanting a copy of the whole statement
may contact me and i will put it in the U.S. mail. Our training manual which
is used at the Circulation Desk has our statement of what we expect everyone
to do and not do. We also have a written Confidentiality Policy for the
Libraries.



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**  June DeWeese                           **
**  Head of Access Services Division       **
**  Ellis Library                          **
**  University of Missouri-Columbia        **
**  Columbia, MO  65201                    **
**  314/882-7315                           **
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From:         "Cordy Swinton (CWS@PSULIAS) 814-863-1362" <CWS@PSULIAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: RESERVES AND COPYRIGHT

There was a conference last week at Oberlin that focused on bookstores
cooperating with library reserve functions. This conference may have
addressed the issues of copyright and photocopying.   I have not had
the opportunity to talk with the person who represented Penn State.
Has anyone else heard about this conference?

Cordy Swinton
Penn State University
CWS@PSULIAS.BITNET
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From:         Wendy Calwhite <calwhitw@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: student workers

> Has anyone ever noticed that financially independent students, those not
 support
> ed by parents or anyone, whether US citizen or foreign are better workers.

No.


Michael J. Petterson     |"Listen, a sower went out to sow..."
mike_p@cheshire.oxy.edu  |                 -Jesus

<><><><><>
I have, however, noticed that older, self-supporting students are generally more
conscientious than younger ones about such things as timeliness and accuracy.

Wendy Calwhite
calwhitw@ccmail.orst.edu
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From:         Molly Drahn <MDRAHN@OREGON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: student workers

My experience is that the really outstanding student employees come
from all economic backgrounds. Mdrahn, AAA Library, University of Oregon
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From:         CXSN000 <CXSN@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: Corporate borrower cards

Relative to the discussion of corporate and other private member-
ships to research libraries, would anyone care to comment on
whether such charges interfere with potential donations from the
same corporations or individuals?  This is definitely a
rationaliztion here is worrying about raising fees.  S. M.
Slavin, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
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On Mon, 20 Jul 1992 09:15:08 EDT <EASLMJRH@UBE> said:
>Has anyone ever noticed that financially independent students, those not
>support
>ed by parents or anyone, whether US citizen or foreign are better workers.
>What I mean is that it seems the student who is supporting him/herself by
>workin
>g on campus usually is more reliable, dependable and willing to work longer
>hour
>s.
***No, but I am not surprised.  As an undergraduate, I found it necessary to
get a part-time job to help pay my expenses, midway through.  Because I all
of a sudden no longer had unlimited time to study, I became very organized,
and my grades improved dramatically....to my chagrin!

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| Carol Goodson, Coordinator/Off-Campus Library Services   |
| Ingram Library, WEST GEORGIA COLLEGE                     |
| Carrollton  GA  30118                                    |
| Phone: (404) 836-6502   FAX: (404) 836-6626              |
| Bitnet: cgoodson@uga    Internet: cgoodson@uga.cc.uga.edu|
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Subject:      Re: Getting ready for fall

On Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:03:01 EDT Mary Kay Ball said:
>Besides shelf reading and training new student assistants, what steps are taken
>to get ready for "new groups" of patrons or patrons new to your library???
>
***besides the obligatory freshman tour, we staff a special OPAC desk for the
first 2 weeks of every quarter (except summer) because there's an influx of new
students every quarter (although fall is the heaviest).
We've never done anything about copiers...no one seems to have any trouble
figuring them out themselves, it seems..

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| Carol Goodson, Coordinator/Off-Campus Library Services   |
| Ingram Library, WEST GEORGIA COLLEGE                     |
| Carrollton  GA  30118                                    |
| Phone: (404) 836-6502   FAX: (404) 836-6626              |
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: look at forn

On Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:24:58 -0700 <LEWIS@MOREKYPR> said:
>Does anyone have suggestions?  Our Circ Policies Committee will not
>be convinced that phone renewals should go.  We are establishing a
>review committee for circulation complainants, but they shouldn't
>have to spend their days sorting out phone renewal problems.

  Phone renewals are an abomination.  They should be eliminated.
If your Circ Policies Cttee won't see it, let THEM be the Phone Renewals
Grievance Review Cttee and I bet they'll change their tune pretty
quickly.

   I AM serious.  I'm an "administrator" but I've learned that the best
way for an administrator or committee to learn what its like "for real, out
there on the front lines" is to BE THERE or to suffer the personal flak
for their stupid decisions.   So, let them....

dan

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* Dan Lester                          Bitnet:   alileste@idbsu              *
* Associate University Librarian      Internet: alileste@idbsu.idbsu.edu    *
* Boise State University                                                    *
* Boise, Idaho  83725                 BSU and I have a deal: I don't speak  *
* 208-385-1234                        for them and they don't speak for me. *
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From:         "Ginny Sylvester, Head, Access Services" <IACVRS@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      label holders

 We got our label holders for current periodicals from Highsmith.
 They are clip-ons, and we have inserts for typing title labels.
 They work great...don't come off unless we want them to.  They
 were not very expensive either, but you'll have to check the current
 highsmith catalog.  WE bought over 5,000...and I know they are
 cheaper, of course, the more you buy.

 --Ginny Sylvester  602 965-3605
 __Hayden Library
 __Arizona State University
 __Tempe, AZ 85287-1006  iacvrs@asuacad
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From:         KHUNTER@UGA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: lists for gardeners
              30 Jul 1992 16:04:28 -0400 from <lsw6y@POE.ACC.VIRGINIA.EDU>

The gardens list is gardens@ukcc.
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From:         Wendy Calwhite <calwhitw@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The weather!

It's sunny and warm here.  Supposed to be in the 90's by Sunday.  Come on
over!!!  Bring your suntan oil.

Wendy
Corvallis, Oregon
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From:         Rick Cooley <RCOOLEY@UVMVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Patron records

I've had a request to query the list concerning what other libraries' policies
are with regard to viewing patron information. We are a NOTIS site, and
wonder what others use as guidelines in determining which staff have this
capability at other sites, and which do not. Thanks in advance.


Rick Cooley                         rcooley@uvmvm (BITNET)
Dana Medical Library                rcooley@uvmvm.uvm.edu (INTERNET)
Learning Resources Center           (802)-656-4401 (VOICE)
University of Vermont               (802)-656-0762 (FAX)
Burlington, VT  05405
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From:         June DeWeese <ELSJUNE@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Total Quality Management

Are there any Access Services Divisions or Circulation Departments out there
who are currently doing  TQM or who are contemplating starting a TQM
program? We are in the beginning stages of planning and I would appreciate
anyone sharing any information that they have with me. TQM is usually done
on the University level or at least on a library-wide level, but I was
wondering what specific actions are taking place in Access Services areas.

Thank you.




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**  June DeWeese                           **
**  Head of Access Services Division       **
**  Ellis Library                          **
**  University of Missouri-Columbia        **
**  Columbia, MO  65201                    **
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From: R1MKB@AKRONVM.BITNET (Mary Kay Ball)
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This isn't a Circulation problem per say...I am just looking out my office
window and it's raining AGAIN!!!! We've had thunderstorms off and on all week
and for most of July.  Is anyone else tired of this weather?????

We haven't had much of a summer. It was a cold June and now a wet July. Our
draught is over...and the library has been comfortable to work in-- a mixed
blessing, I guess.

So far the air conditioning is turned "down" to warmer temps on the weekends,
but we manage ok. It's tolerable.

But we're loosing out on summer!!!!       Patrons are grumpy too.
(not to mention soaked!)   Bummer!!!!
Ah well, back to work.....and it's raining and storming again....home to my
wet basement.
Enough complaining for one day. Have a nice weekend, everyone!!!
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Mary Kay Ball                      **   Rain, Rain go away, come again
U of Akron Law Library             **   some other day....
Akron Rain Forest :)               **
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From:         JULIE MANGIN <jmangin@ASRR.ARSUSDA.GOV>
Subject:      shelf label holders
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I am looking for a shelf label holder that would attach to the shelf
where certain journal titles are filed.  These labels would contain
the call number of the journal and certain other information such as
"current issues are held in the Periodical Reading Room."  The label
holder would need to work on metal shelving that has a 3/4" lip below
the actual shelf level.  It would need to hold firmly, yet be
relatively easy to move as issues are shelved so that the label
holder would always be next to the most recent issues.

Thanks for any suggestions!

Julie Mangin
National Agricultural Library
Document Delivery Services Branch
10301 Baltimore Boulevard
Beltsville MD  20705-2351

voice:  (301)504-5879
fax:    (301)504-5675
jmangin@asrr.arsusda.gov
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From:         "Virginia K. P. Rigby" <LIB_VKR@SHSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The weather!

GO TRIBE!! Thos of us transplanted to the great state of texas are root'n
fer ya'll.
None of you can complain about the weather where you live until you've had a
Texas August. I've lived in New York City, Indiana, California, Utah, Colorado,
and they each have their good and bad weathers. But a Texas August beats them
all for misery. Sorry guys.
Gin
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From:         Shirien Stevens <SSTEVENS@OREGON.BITNET>
Subject: Kickstools: how many, and carpet vs. tile features?

Here's a quick question for stacks maintenance folks:  What is
your average number of ranges per kickstool?  I assume one
kickstool for every three ranges is reasonable, but that it would
depend on how long the ranges are.  It's easier to find a
kickstool within three ranges when the ranges are shorter (7
sections) than when they're longer (15-16 sections) long.
Anybody?

Also, since we're currently in a non-carpeted building but will
have carpets in some areas of the new building:  are there any
particular features of kickstools we should look for?  Do they all
work equally well on tile and carpet?  (I know Rusty Bill:  the
wheels should all rotate...  :)   )

Thanks.



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From: ASCOAT01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU (Ann S. Coates)
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Curator of Slides, Fine Arts Dept.
Phone: 588-5917
Thanks for the address, but what is the name of the list?
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From:         "W.C. DIVENS" <N93774@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The weather

>We sure could do with some of your rain!!  Here in California (where today
>in the Sacramento Valley the temp. is about 102 f) we get tired of the fires,
>the dust and the heat.

>Send some of your rain this way, OK?  then we'll all be happy.

>Lucia MacLean
>U C Davis
>LJMACLEAN@octavo.ucdavis.edu

But realizing the difficulty of hitting a moving target with an
airborne projectile...how can you be sure that where you are will
be where the rain falls...after California is done "shaking all over"?

:^)

Rusty
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From:         "STEVEN J. SCHMIDT" <SCHMIDT@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      A Search for Justice

A colleague asked me to post this to the list.   A librarian, a staff
member and a patron recently witnessed as another patron ripped an article
out of a journal.  The librarian wants to proscute for theft and mutlilation,
but they want to find some similar cases to show the prosecutor first.  Have
any other libraries prosecuted for this type of vandalism?

You can respond directly to me and I will sumarize for the list.

   Steven J. Schmidt                SCHMIDT@INDYCMS
   IUPUI University Libraries       SCHMIDT@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
   815 West Michigan Street
   Indianapolis, IN  46202          (317) 274-0470
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From:         Eileen O'Hara <ELOHARA@BROCK1P.BITNET>
Subject:      phone renewals

Within the past year we have instituted phone renewals.  They were not
available before on our semi-automated system.  We now have DYNIX.

It has become a booming business here and certainly time consuming.  We
also only allow full time Circ. staff and student supervisors to handle
them.  We've had as many as 35 phone renewals in two hours!   On the
plus side, our students are extremely grateful -- especially commuters,
But on snowy, stormy nights the students in the dorms are equally grateful.

We use a "phone renewal form"  that the staff member fills out while
speaking to the person on the phone.  It's short and sweet -- but on it
we record the book barcode number as the student reads it to us over
the phone.  If there is ever a patron complaint ("I renewed that by
phone!")  we look back through these slips.  If there is no slip on
file, sorry --- the overdue date and fines will stand.  Often the slips
clear up confusion on the part of the student.  The slips often indicate
a different group of books that they renewed, for example.

I know this is reverting a bit to a manual system, but it doesn't take
any more time, since it's filled out while you're tied up on the phone
anyway.  To us, the little effort is well worth the confusion and ill
will it avoids.

I hope this helps.  If you'd like a copy of our phone slip, BITNET back.

Eileen O'Hara
Drake Memorial Library
SUNY Brockport
Brockport, NY 14420
<ELOHARA@BROCK1P>

Where it's still raining!   :-)