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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: Re: What was Godzilla's name in japanese?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 07:04:03 GMT

In article <21AUG199208233469@portal.lasc.lockheed.com> le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025)) writes:
>In article <1610@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, rodal@reznor.cmw.ltn.dec.com (A Software Hooligan) writes...
>> 
>>Anybody know? I want to name a project after that famous creature that
>>ate Tokyo, but I want it to know the japanese pronounciation of Godzilla?
>> 
>Probably the best way for us hakajeans to pronounce it is Gojeera with
                              ^^^^^^^^^
        "hakajean?" Hope you mean "hakujin" (hah-koo-jin), "white
person."  :)

>no accents on any sylables.  The _r_ is sort of rolled with the tongue
>so that it *almost* has an _l_ sound to it.  I believe the word comes
>from the combination of the Japanese words for gorilla and whale.

That's a pretty good way to describe the pronounciation. This "r"
versus "l" thing is the reason Japanese peopre sound rike they are
talking strangery when speaking Engrish. :) There are no "r" and "l"
differences in Japanese.




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From: mmcalees@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese (One of 'Those Dudes'))
Subject: Re: Barton Fink
Organization: The Forgotten Legions of... uhh... umm...
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:28:51 GMT

  One thing that was mentioned in Barton Fink that sort of rang false to
me was the idea of "wrassling films" as if they were a real genre, like
westerns, for example.  I was sure such a genre never existed.
  I was wrong.
  In fact, there have been many wrasslin' films.  There's apparently even
a sub-genre of female wrasslin' films!  I thought I'd seen it all, until
a friend of mine showed me an 18 film list from a book on B-movies about
the Mexican films starring Santos, the Man in the Silver Mask.  Yes, Santos
is a heroic masked wrestler and the star of his own film series.  I *have*
to get my hands on some of these.  Examples include Santos battling 
gangsters, Santos saving Christmas, and Santos building a time machine and
travelling back in time so he can fight Count Dracula. (!)

-- 
*     mmcalees@csr.uvic.ca (Michael McAleese) : I speak only for me...       *
  "Man can believe the impossible, but never the improbable." - Oscar Wilde
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Unforgivable  ***SPOILERS***
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:32:57 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

In article <11800@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton  
Cramer) writes:
> If you interpret "Little Bill" as analogous to the current efforts
> of big city police chiefs to solve all the problems of crime by
> the use of summary violence, gun control laws, and other police
> state tactics, his actions are considerably more understandable.
> His intentions are good -- to prevent violence, and to keep
> scum out of town that might be a problem.  But good intentions are
> not enough.  The level of violence against English Bob, no matter
> how deserving a character, represent a contempt for judicial
> process (can you say, "Rodney King?") that will eventually lead
> to his own death.

The situations are not comprable. Such violence by today's 
police is truly unforgivable and unnecessary. We have better
ways of handling the situation. Little Bill had not such
options.  His treatment of English Bob was probably the only
possible way to send out a message to other assassins that
they couldn't come into his town.  What else was he to do in
this case, given the situation he was in?  Simply sending Bob
home wouldn't have been enough, and throwing him into jail may
have kept him from going after the bounty but wouldn't have
warned anyone else away from the town.  
--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:20:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <jjonsson.90@alexandria.lib.utah.edu>, 
jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:

> Anthony Hopkins: Dr. Van Helsing
Dutch or German?

> Keanu Reeves: Jonathan Harker (Why, why, why, why?)
Because he was great in _Dangerous Liaisons_, and _My Own Private Idaho_,
and will be great in Kenneth Branaugh's next Shakespeare adaptaion!
He really is a talented actor...believe it or not.

> Winona Ryder: Mina Harker
> Cary Elwes: Dr. Seward
Nope, Cary will be Lord Holmwood, Richard E. Grant (Warlock) will be Dr.Seward.

> Gary Oldman: Dracula aka Vlad Dracula 
This is the most inspired piece of casting I have ever heard!
Oldman is an *amazing* actor...I hope this is his great "mainstream"
break.  I suggest _Rozencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead_ and _JFK_ 
to any one that wants to marvel at his talent.

I have jet to see him in _State of Grace_ and _Sid and Nancy_...but hear
he's excellent in both.

Greg Bole                              "Lord, thank you for that waitress in 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu            South Bend.  You know the one, she was
                                        calling your name the whole time."
                                          Tom Hanks in _A Leauge of Their Own_
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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: fault in BACK to the FUTURE II
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:29:17 GMT

rcoadh@potoroo.co.rmit.oz.AU (Alexander Doktorovich) writes:

>Hi,
>Seing `Back to the FUTURE II' on TV (for the first time) I was impressed
>at the consistency of the events - except for one which really fauls things
>up. 
>When Marty and Doc are in the future, the old Biff steals the DMC, goes to
>the past, gives the Sports Almanac to himself and arrives back.
>Now, if old and younger Biffs were succesful in altering the future, as we
>saw when Marty and Doc arrived back to 1985, then how did the old Biff arrive
>back into the _unchanged_ future?

Gee! Golly! Wow! You discovered an inconsistency??

Because Doc and Marty needed the time machine. That's movie-logic: any-
thing may happen as long as it fits the purpose to get the characters to
do some action.
Just think about plots as ridiculous as people vanishing on photos. Or
tombstones. As if anybody would have taken a photo in the first place
then.
You cannot have cause and effect where there is no time, because cause
(taking place beforehand) and effect (afterwards) are defined only in a
temporal environment. Anything else is bunk. But that's already leading
to far away from understanding Hollywood logic. Just enjoy it. I did.


May the Cool Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: bgaynor@csi.compuserve.com (Beth Gaynor)
Subject: Re: Danny DeVito trivia question
Keywords: trivia, quiz, Batman, Danny DeVito
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:54:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.141612.26990@julian.uwo.ca> koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Luke Koops) writes:
>When did Danny Devito say "Now move it, before Batman comes back." ?

Actually, it was "before Batman comes HOME," and it was in _Romancing
the Stone_, after he had followed Douglas and Turner under the
waterfall.

Next...  :)

--Beth


-- 
Beth Gaynor
email: bgaynor@csi.compuserve.com

"Look ma, no sig!"
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: 3 Ninjas (teeny weeny spoilers)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:15:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.154205.18523@Princeton.EDU>, spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes...

} One question though, anyone know who plays the Oriental
} grandfather/trainer?  Looks familiar.  Seems to be the guy who had
} a bit part in Mystery Date (the one that is cleaning a toilet and
} translates the back of McQ's shirt) and I'm sure I've seen him in
} other movies.

I haven't seen the film, nor do I plan to, but I noticed in the TV ads
that the movie features Victor Wong, and no doubt this is the person
you're thinking of. He's been in a number of films, from Bertolucci's
THE LAST EMPEROR to Wayne Wang's EAT A BOWL OF TEA. He would probably
be most familiar to people from his role as Egg Shen in BIG TROUBLE
IN LITTLE CHINA.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REFRESH
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:49:47 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <65486@hydra.gatech.EDU>, by ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz):
> It's not just vampire films!  In everything nowadays, when you have the
> good-guy-vs-bad-guy fight at the end, most of the time, the bad guy
> gets "killed" only to come back for one last shot.  Examples (in no
> particular order):
 
> Alien

No, Alien does not fit that description.  The Alien is not even hurt
seriously until Ripley pops him out of the airlock and turns the
engines on him.

> Terminator

This, I think, is the one that started the trend.

Two other examples: Blue Steel (really, really weak on plausibility)
and that film where Julia Roberts played that woman maltreated by her
husband (sorry, only remember the German title).

-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Ted Turner et al
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:36:53 GMT

In article <Bsx56o.6no@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v118jxyk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!) writes...

} Me and my friend were watching the new version of "Casablanca"
} yesterday, and my friend had this to say about Ted Turner......

} spoiler.....

[Form feed removed; for the life of me I can't figure out why you think
this is a spoiler]

} He is going to be condemned to a BLACK AND WHITE HELL

} Pretty funny heh!

Not particularly.

} Don't ya just hate COLORIZATION, when a movie is meant to be B+W.

Yes, I do, but in Turner's defense, he's just giving the public what it
wants. Even before anyone ever heard of colorization, I'd heard comments
from people who associated "black-&-white" with "cheap". If there wasn't
a large market for colorized films, neither Turner nor anyone else would
bother.

Secondly, the colorization process requires a nice clean black-&-white
print to start from, so Turner has been going through great time, money,
and effort to restore many of the old black-&-white classics to as
pristine a condition as is possible. And he's made these black-&-white
prints available for home video release as well. I have a number of the
MGM/UA and RKO laserdiscs struck from restored black-&-white prints,
and they are *gorgeous*.

Thirdly, believe it or not, Turner himself prefers black-&-white. While
colorized versions of old films are made available for the TV and cable
broadcast market, from what I've seen, you're far more likely to see
black-&-white versions on Turner's own entertainment channel, TNT, than
the colorized ones.

Colorization is, for Turner, simply a business decision, not an aesthetic
one.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
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From: donofrio@nereid.sal.ists.ca (Frank D'onofrio)
Subject: the potion with the poison...
Organization: Space Astrophysics Laboratory, ISTS, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:29:05 GMT


The lines come from Singin' In the Rain.

Frank
The Bocca Demon
From: ldl2142@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (8472 BE32R)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:40:14 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group, Seattle

My wife has started calling our remote "The Mouse"
(She uses a Macintosh at work)
It looks like the name has stuck,
because I've called it that a couple of time now myself.
-- 
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P.O. Box 3707, M/S 9R-49         |------------------------------------------
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:41:15 GMT
Keywords: This is *BIG* in NYC, and it's only just begun

In article <1992Aug20.013629.9662@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>been a father to for a decade is the moral equivalent of incest...
>I didn't express an opinion as to the morality of the action.

To be fair, the first statement above is a statement of an opinion
and a statement as to the morality of the action.

Don't know what your point was, only what it appeared to be.
I guess this followup post of yours amounted to a disclaimer,
but I had to point that out.

GMS
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From: art@wvus.org (Art Nicolaysen)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Reply-To: art@wvus.org (Art Nicolaysen)
Organization: World Vision U.S.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:18:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.192544.27411@jade.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>
>	Breaker Morant-- Another military injustice tale, with Edward Woodward
>and Bryan Brown.  Directed by Peter Weir?

Not quite.  Bruce Beresford directed Breaker Morant, while Peter Weir
directed Gallipoli (1981).  Featured Mel Gibson as one Australian 
infantryman who gets caught up in the botched 1915 campaign to take
the Gallipoli Peninsula in Turkey.

These are two of my favorite "War is Hell" movies.  Two others that I
think deserve mention in this category are

The Seven Samaurai

Das Boot


-----------------------------------------+----------------------------------
  "A classic is a book that people       | Art Nicolaysen    art@wvus.org
   buy, and then don't bother to read" 	 |
  		     Mark Twain		 | (somewhere in los angeles county)
-----------------------------------------+----------------------------------

-- 
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From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
Subject: Re: unforgiven (1 of 3)
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 05:30:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.1489.26257@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>          Enter Clint Eastwood.
>          "A Fistful Of Dollars," the movie that made Eastwood a star,
>     proved to be the death knell of the Classical Western of good-and-
>     bad.  The so-called "spaghetti Westerns" reflected the way America's
                                                                 ^^^^^^^^^
Italy's? :-)

>     tastes in movies were changing in the 1960s, as they sought to
>     de-mythify the Western and bring it down to earth.  

I think you're a bit confused.  Movies like "A Fistful of Dollars" simply
swapped out myths, with a substantially different style of film-making.

In the early and mid-60's (and even the 50's), quite a few American films
started to pop up, which dealt with increasingly complex moral and ethical
issues.  See, for instance, "The Searchers," which quite a few critics
have been comparing "The Unforgiven" to.  



---
Robert Dorsett
rdd@cactus.org
...cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!rdd
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From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: John Woo
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:07:22 GMT

In article <axolotl.714183337@syzygy> axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au writes:

> >"This film [HARD BOILED]
> >will be much more optimistic than THE KILLER or BULLET IN THE HEAD,"
> >Woo allows.  "Here, innocence and justice will survive."
>
>I was surprised when I first read this.  I suppose Woo is simply
>being extremely sarcastic.  HARD BOILED is easily one of the most
>brutal films ever made, with hundreds of individual deaths.  Most
>of the victims are just bystanders.

No, I don't think he was being sarcastic at all.  HARDBOILED isn't at
all as "brutal" as BULLET IN THE HEAD, in my opinion anyway.  And THE
KILLER has an extremely bleak tone towards the end, much more so than
HARDBOILED.  That's as much of an argument as I care to make -- I
wouldn't want to post any spoilers!

>I hope Hollywood doesn't spoil him.

Me too.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

> Iain Sinclair    axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
> $@0N0G(J $@?<9HNn(J  

BTW, is that TECO or something???

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...)
[sings] "Are you somewhere, feeling lonely, or is someone loving you?"
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From: kjetilgr@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Granlien)
Subject: The Dark Half, when & who? 
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:15:41 GMT
Originator: kjetilgr@yrsa.ifi.uio.no


	I've heard rumours of thisw movie being in production.
Can anyone tell me more about this? At least confirming the rumours?

Thanks.


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From: yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo)
Subject: Movies starring Claude Rains Wanted.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:41:30 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center


One of my favorite actor is Claude Rains and I'd like to see if there is
any movies that he was in that I missed.
 
I've seen him in 
  "Caesar and Cleopatra"
  "Casablanca"
  "Robin Hood" 
  "The Phantom of the Opera"
  "The Invisible Man"

 Did I miss any?

 Ralph Yozzo
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From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Originator: gcagle@dracula
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:57:14 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


In article <1992Aug20.083139.26499@sdcrsi.cray.com>, kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom) writes:
> Just from the trailer, Hopkins looks great.  He plays Van
|> Helsing with a really cool (German?) accent.

In the book, Van Helsing was Dutch.

- Greg
-- 
Greg Cagle               "Floont Artney, Private Eye"
Mentor Graphics          
greg_cagle@mentorg.com
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From: schuck@beaufort.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:13:08 GMT


How about Castle Keep, a strange war movie about a squad of soldiers
defending a castle.

Burt Lancaster, Peter Falk.


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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Terminator
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:42:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.213113.1@woods.ulowell.edu> sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka) writes:
>I believe we DO see the "other" terminator, in the first movie.  Remember
>when Sarah and Kyle are hiding out in that cave or whatever?  It goes to a 
>flashback when they show the humans making their way back into the bunker.
>Kyle sits down and looks at Sarah's picture.  Someone yells "TERMINATOR !",
>and we see another "model" come in with a large gun and proceeds to take 
>apart most of the bunker.

Isn't this the terminator that was played (so to speak) by Franco
Columbu?  The downsized model?

GMS
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From: le01167@portal.lasc.lockheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025))
Subject: Re: Barton Fink, Opinions and Authority...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lockheed Aeronautical Systems Co. - Rye Canyon
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:43:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.073040.11613@muddcs.claremont.edu>, Scott - who is 
using the account of awells@jarthur.claremont.edu (Adam "Servo" Wells) writes...

>I will attempt to explain the last ten minutes of Barton Fink.  Being a film
>major I think that maybe I have some authority.  

Get THIS guy!  Who says you need authority to have an opinion around here, 
and who says that being a film student GIVES you authority??  Didn't you 
see Annie Hall?  Right now I wish I could pull the Coen Brothers out from 
behind your screen and show you how fatuous that sounds.

>The end of the film is supposed to show just how scummy Hollywood really is. 

The END of the film???  I thought the whole film did.

>The producer does not care who the writer is.  He just wants a hit movie. 

It's not just the producer, don't forget that the writer was so pompous
as to think that he had something to tell people he knew nothing about - 
and nearly sold out when his vanity was suitably flattered (and nearly sold 
his Faustian soul to the devil residing in a hellish hotel).

>I think the whole movie is summed up in the last two lines when Barton is
>on the beach and he asks the girl if she is in the movies after he observes
>how beautiful she is.  She reply's Of course not.  I took these lines to mean
>that there are actually no beautiful people in Hollywood.
>         -Scott Schrager, Boston University.

How about the notion that, for most people, movies and Hollywood represent their 
ideas of, and satisfy their search for, beauty and perfection (she MUST be in
the movies, she's too beautiful to just be a NORMAL person), and the irony is 
that it's an author (creator and merchant of similar substitutes) who takes 
the thin veneer (that the peeling wallpaper may represent) for real substance.
Especially AFTER what he had just been through with the studio.  Even after the
wallpaper has peeled away to show the rotting wood beneath, he is constantly trying
to push the veneer back.  

And we keep going to the movies.

Ron
From: sture@lulea.trab.se (Sture Jonsson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Bruce Waynes glasses, what make
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:56:19 GMT
Organization: Telia Research AB, Aurorum 6, 951 75 Lulea, Sweden
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I wonder if anyone can tell me the brand, model, etc. of the glasses used by
Michael Keaton in Batman and/or Batman returns. I've also seen the type he was
wearing in Batman on a guy in a 'USA direct' commercial on CNN international.

Thanks in advance,
Sture