From: lombardo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Marc Lombardo)
Subject: Mixing Music
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 15:03:53 GMT

Would someone give me some ideas and tips on mixing music without using
a record player?  I would like to avoid using vinyl as much as possible
for the time being, as I am only experimenting with mixing music, and I
would rather avoid having to re-buy all of my 242 on vinyl (as if it
all exists on vinyl..)  

Anyway, here is the equipment I plan on using:

        Two CD players; a Pioneer and a JVC .. both are of exceptional
                quality, are there features that I need that aren't on
                your average cd player, tho?

        Two cassette recorders (no, not multitrack...) Both having dubbing
                capabilities, as if that mattered.

        One 10 input mixer board.  I haven't used this much, but if someone
                could give me a couple hints how to achieve cool effects
                for mixing with the different low med high frequency
                level knobs and reverb stuff?

        One Atari ST computer with a digitizer (mono) and 2.5 megabytes
                of memory.  This should hold PLENTY of high quality
                samples to throw into songs ...


        One Roland Synthesizer.  I don't have too many details on the keyboard,
                but I'm not very good on piano, so I won't be using it
                too much...


Now, here was my first idea on how mixing was done.  I created several 
loops from various songs (for example, one loop from Shamen's Move Any 
Mountain, and another from their Make It Mine) then, I would sample various
things and play them over the loop.... this would HARDLY sound good at 
all.  But, doing it that way I would only be using two inputs of the
mixer board.  There has to be another way of doing this...

Here are some effects I would like to achieve:

        Extremely slow play speed to normal play speed.  Although easy
                on a record player, how could I do it with the equipment
                I have?  Example of this effect is in 242's second
                'hidden' track on TFY ... right at the beginning... That
                sounds c00l

        Switching from one part of a song to another with a CLEAN transfer.
                For example, lets say I want to play Move any Mountain
                and in the middle switch to a slower 666 rhythm and
                then switch to Make It Mine ... can it be done?  

        Distorting the song as its played through the mixer ... increasing 
                bass and nearly eliminating vocals, etc... varying the
                echo, adding an ambient effect as the song is played
                through  (possibly making a transition easier?)

        Syncing a sample (take something like 242s "No Sex Until Marriage")
                with a rhythm from a song that wasn't make around that
                sample (take Shamens 666 Edit) ... 



        If you have any other effects that you have found really make your
mixes sound cool, please send them along.  I am extremely into industrial
music, and I can't wait to start mixing some stuff.

Any help (ANY help, even sarcasm) is GREATLY appreciated... 

BUT, send all flames to /dev/null

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