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From: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu (Terry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Camcorder info
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



> >From reading this group, I gather that Hi8 is the way to go for maximum
> >quality.  One camcorder I've looked at is the Sony CCD-TR101 with 10x zoom
> >and "mechanical" image stabilization. It was priced at $1599.99.
 
> Hi8 is a good way to go, unless you get into the professional broadcast
> formats.  See comments above onthe TR-101.  Is is available for much
> less than $1600; $1000 to $1300 is typical.  I have heard rumors thru
> prior postings that the TR-101 is being discontinued due to probelms.
> I personally compared the TR-81 against the TR-101 in a side-by-side
> and chose the TR-81 for its superior image quality.
 
I would like to provide a counterpoint.  Since I don't own a TR81, 
I cannot speak directly to the image quality issue.  I am, 
however, satisfied with the image quality of my VN750 (TR101).  
 
More importantly, I hope that Sony does not discontinue the TR101 
(there is no evidence, only rumors, and stores in our area are 
still receiving shipments of TR101s).  The reason is that I am 
extremely happy with the optical image stabilization and hope that 
others continue to have access to it. 
 
Occasionally, just to remind myself how much I like it, I turn it 
off and attempt to shoot without it.  If you are trying to take a 
picture with anything more closeup than wide angle, you end up 
with "jitter vision" unless you prop yourself against a wall, hold 
your breath, and pray.   The Steadyshot / Stable Shot system 
eliminates all of this.  To me, slight differences in image 
quality are of no value if the picture is jumping all over, or you 
have to go to special means to stabilize the picture.  This is 
just my opinion, but I assume that you are looking for opinions.
 

--
                                    Terry Quinn
                                     Germantown Hills, IL
                                      tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu
                                       aq456@cleveland.freenet.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer)
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:32:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <John_Mansfield-171292125129@jfm.sprl.umich.edu> John_Mansfield@mse.engin.umich.edu (John F. Mansfield) writes:
>I think you are missing the point of PhotoCD, I dont think it is amied at
>the really high end.  It is being advertised as a consumer product and as
>such is aimed at people who are using 110 and 126 cameras!  Maybe a little
>exaggeration here but I think that Kodak are looking to sell this system to
>the general public who have very little idea how many pixels there are on a
>Kodachrome slide!  Remember you are for the most part playing them back to
>an NTSC TV system 525 lines at best! :-)

Some people seem to be expressing an opinion that PhotoCD will, by its
presumed success, squash efforts to develop anything better (or will cause
what already is better, film, to die).  If I can put words into their
mouths for a second, I think they'd make the claim that PhotoCD will be
"good enough to live with [for most people], but not good enough [for them]".
I hear the same arguments used against the US HDTV proposals, and still
hear them against audio CDs (me, I'm one of the Great Unwashed Masses
who've been gifted with neither the quality of hearing to be offended by
CDs, nor the money to buy the equipment to offend me if I were :-).

Personally, it seems like there's three possible market segments for PhotoCD:
The Unwashed, Gadget Lovers With Big Disposable Incomes, and Professionals.
I find it difficult to believe it'll catch on with the first (who by & large
--in the US, anyways -- still can't figure out how to program their VCRs);
this group has already heard some skepticism from people who apparently really
need all the resolution they can get; and the second group is hardly large
enough (IMO) to support it for long.  It seems to be travelling a very rocky
road.
-- 
"Look, Max: 'Cheese in a pressurized can'! |   Steve rehrauer@apollo.hp.com
 Even WE wouldn't eat THAT!"               | H.P. Systems Technology Division
   -- Freelance Police                     |    Massachusetts Language Lab
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tole@rtsg.mot.com (Jeffrey J. Tole)
Subject: SONY V701 Questions
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:26:48 GMT


I have just purchased a LENMAR VQ205 0.5x wide angle and
2.0x tele-photo flip lens for my SONY V701 HI-8 camcorder
and I am noticing the following symptoms:

	In tele-photo or wide angle mode the auto focusing
	does not seem to work properly.  In manual mode I
	can focus okay and the picture is fine.  Is this a
	normal occurence for an external lens being added	
	as an extension to the cameras normal lens?

	With the tele-photo lens in place and in the wide
	angle mode there is a dark shadow on the outside
	perimeter of the picture.  Is this normal?

	In the wide angle mode it makes walls/ceilings
	appear to be rounded.  Is this normal?

Also, does anyone have any experiences with the portable 8mm
rewinders and/or the quick discharge/quick charge battery
reconditioners on the market <i.e. SIMA, AMBICO, ...>.

--

    Jeff Tole
tole@rtsg.mot.com
From: d_luk@pavo.concordia.ca (LUK, DEREK)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: to V or not to V
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:51:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Some of the two top gun tapes today are probably the Sony VHGb and the
TDK EHGhifi.

My favourite used to be Scotch EXGhifi, which gave video rental quality
recordings off LD, but the reds seemed to ghost a bit too much. Sony VHGb
(this is the Sony V cassette that has the cube graph in the back saying
it is 12% better than other hifi cassettes, with a gauss retentivity of
Br.1850) - is the first tape I have seen that gave a minimal of ghosting
for all colors. I was really impressed with sony's new V - I have also
tried the VHGa (this is the T160 cassette), and performs slightly more
brilliant than the colors coming from TDK EHG160. As for the regular sony
V vivax, this seems the same as TDKs regular EHG. 

With Sony's new VHG - they promise less dropouts with anti static coating
on their mylar - very much like Scotch, who were the first to do so.

Anyhow - I'd like to hear what other people have to say about Sony V
cassettes.

Has anyone tries Sony ED cassettes? They're dropping their whole ES line
of cassettes (namely, ES, ESHG, ESXhifi)...

V ProX is *spectacular* - you know - these Sony V tapes are great - but how
long do they last thru repetitive playing - and sitting on the shelf?
Because I only trust Scotch for long term storage...

:)
From: j.cook@primerd.prime.com (C. James Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Video tape rewinders
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:46:16 GMT
Organization: Prime Computer R&D

My opinion?

I consider external rewinders a waste of money.

Rewinders claim to save your VCR from the wear and tear of rewinding tapes.
If rewinding has worn out your VCR in places, I would hazard a guess that the
corresponding playing and recording of tapes has worn out those parts too.
You spend more hours playing and recording than rewinding.  By the time one
is worn out, so is the other.

J
From: peterli@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Peter Li)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:14:52 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library

In article <BEN_WEN.92Dec19153613@w20-575-51.mit.edu> ben_wen@athena.mit.edu (Benson Wen) writes:
>
>Actually, wouldn't 165 pixels *NOT* give you the same resolution
>as 165 lines?  That is, it requires *TWO* pixels to make up a line
>pair.  So, it takes 330 pixels / mm to get the same resolution as 165
>lp/mm?
>
>|| Benson Wen
>|| ben_wen@athena.mit.edu
>|| queeph@hing.lcs.mit.edu

Here is one more naive question:

Kodachrome has resolving power of 165 lines/mm,
so it is equivalent to 330 pixels/mm. However,
what happens if a region of  165 lines/mm picture
start on the quarter cycle relative to the
digitalization position ? Since Kodachrome is
analog, you still see the fine lines. But if
we only scan 330 pixels/mm at fixed positions,
we end up with gray ! So shouldn't the scan
frequency bumped up to 660 (Nyquist limit)
pixels/mm ?

Peter Li
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer)
Subject: Seeking THE LITTLE MERMAID on VHS...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:36:47 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

I know it's a long shot, but...

A coworker is looking for this Disney title on VHS tape.  (Thanks, I've
got my copy on laserdisc.)  Is there perhaps anyone out there who's
[a] seen a VHS copy of this lurking in some dusty local bin, or [b] has
a copy they'd sell?  ([b] may not be too farfetched, I hope; I bought
a copy on VHS until the LD was released, but mine's long since been
sold...  I guess I'm hoping to find a procrastinator... :-)

Thanks if you can help.  (Suggestions that I make a tape copy of my disc
aren't helpful.)

-- 
"Look, Max: 'Cheese in a pressurized can'! |   Steve rehrauer@apollo.hp.com
 Even WE wouldn't eat THAT!"               | H.P. Systems Technology Division
   -- Freelance Police                     |    Massachusetts Language Lab
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: baldwin@frodo.colorado.edu (Dan "Viper" Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-D701 (my experiences)
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:25:46 GMT

In article <BzBu5D.GK1@vcd.hp.com>, neff@vcd.hp.com (Dave Neff) writes:
|> I have had a 701 for about 4 months.  In general, on most every Image
|> pressed LD I see about 1 second of the black band problem per hour
|> of viewing.  I have one Image LD where it persists for about 5 seconds.
|> Non Image discs have been fine.  At first I didn't even notice the
|> 1 second problems.  Thanks to the picky videophiles on the net I
|> started noticing it.  The 5 second glitch is very obvious on one LD.
|> The problem is very repeatable at the same locations on the same LDs.

	I have the Pioneer CLD-52, one of the bottom end Elite
players (it does not have digital stuff). I am curious if it
also has "the black line problem"--Could you post where on which discs
you see this problem ? I and others can try and reproduce this. I think
it would make an interesting documentation of this problem.


Dan Baldwin  baldwin@frodo.colorado.edu
From: msiegall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (MARC SIEGALL)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Equipment off or on ?
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:39:16 GMT
Reply-To: msiegall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

In article <9212121552.AA01496@heartland.bradley.edu_>, tquinn@heartland.bradley.edu (Terry Quinn) writes:
>> >       Is it better for some electronic equipment, specifically LD players,
>> > A/V recievers,VCRs, etc (not TVs) to be left in the powered up mode (ie on)

[stuff deleted]

>I have been 
>inclined to turn off my work computer overnight, to eliminate 
>about 60% of its operating time. 

I, too, have asked various gurus about this issue.  I read somewhere that
CD players should be turned off when not in use.  Amps (and receivers)
sound best after they've warmed up for a while, but at least one manu-
facturer told me that leaving it on all of the time would not be good
for the transformers.  As you point out with computers, there's a trade-off
between the wear and tear on electronic and mechanical components.

All of this leads me to my system for all of my electronic goodies: I turn
them on when I need them, then leave them on until I go to bed, just in case
I want to use them again during the day.  The extra "on" time should be less
harmful than another power-up cycle.
******************************************************************************
Marc Siegall                     MSIEGALL@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Department of Management
California State University      (916) 898-5421
Chico, CA 95929-0031
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From: visnurpk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Head Cleaning
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,

   What is the best method of cleaning the heads for video tape recorders?
I've been using a Scotch head cleaner (dry method), but wonder how good it
really is, and if it does any damage.  Is taking the cover off and cleaning
the heads w/o a tape feasible? or is this another no no?  I was figuring it
would be like working with audio tape heads, or data heads (ie. tape backup).
Any/all suggestions welcome as I don't wish to toast the existing VCR I have
while looking for a new one...

-Rich

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mizera@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com (Ellen Mizera)
Subject: Pro-Logic question
Organization: Rockwell International
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:02:03 GMT


Hi! Our local version of "Price Club" is offering
a Paramount 25 watt Surround Sound :
Dolby Pro-Logic Processor Model PF5 and 2 rear
speakers for $199.98.

Is this a decent system for watching laser discs
or is 25 watts too low?

Please e-mail responses...

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BEWARE: incredibly boring, business-like .sig ahead...

Ellen Mizera Seim
Rockwell International
Anaheim, California
(714)762-2665
mizera@power.amasd.anatcp.rockwell.com
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From: as719@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jun Guo)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Hi8 digital stereo camcorder
Date: 15 Dec 1992 10:40:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hi,

   I want to buy a Hi8 camcorder with digital stereo. I have only
seen one Olympus. I'd like to know more.

   And is Hi8 digital stereo as good as CD?

   Thanks.

Jun
From: kfriedman@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: This group is worthless (cable signal amplifiers)
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:59:58 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <9212142249.AA27078@pserv.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM>, Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com> writes:
> 
> I can't believe that with 9.5 million people on the internet and 35,000
> reading this group (*) that NO ONE even has a CLUE about boosting cable
> signals.
> 
> I posted a couple weeks ago asking (in a much more polite tone than this
> is being written in) if anyone had any opinions on what are the better
> models of TV cable signal boosters are (and what models I should stay 
> away from.
> 
> I got thirteen replies.  EVERY SINGLE RESPONSE was someone wanting the
> same information, so there does seem to be a demand, but not one
> bloody person took a moment to give an answer, so these 13 people
> are going to have to remain in the dark as I apparently will have to.
> 
> I always figured that beneath the juvenile wars between laserdisc lovers,
> HI-8 lovers, S-VHS lovers, etc, there was an occasional post with some 
> useful information.  Apparently, all the people who would post useful 
> information to rec.video got fed up and left (as perhaps should I).
> 
> Sigh.  And to the thirteen people who asked that I forward any info I get,
> sorry to tell you--there is no Santa Claus (or if there is, he's too busy
> in a flame-fest to help out).
> 
> (*) = Anyone know why this dropped so drastically from 70,000 subscribers
> in August of 1992?  I find it hard to believe that half of the subscribers
> left (though I can understand why).  Did they change the way they calculate
> readership or something?
> 
>                 --Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer
> --
> C, Pascal, Fortran, BASIC, Assembly Language, Snobol, Ada, APL, Prolog, LISP
> Unix, MS-DOS, ProDOS       .  .   .   .... .  .   .   .   .   .   . Audio/Video
> ottoh@cfsmo.honeywell.com  :..: .:.:. :    :.' .. :`.': .:.:. :`. :   Star Trek
> hackman@pnet51.orb.mn.org  :  : :   : :... : `.   :   : :   : :  `:  Apple IIgs
> 
 

Otto,

Sorry, I didn't see your post.  The only experience I have had with signal
boosters is with one from Radio Shack.  I had split my cable signal 3 ways and
was concerned about loss.  So I hooked the thing up and it made my picture
WORSE!  So I just left it off.  This may sound like a lame answer...but its the
truth.   Do 30,000 people really read this?  By the # of postings I had thought
it was much less!

	Jay


Newsgroups: rec.video
From: neff@vcd.hp.com (Dave Neff)
Subject: Re: Pioneer CLD-D701 (my experiences)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:46:25 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I have had a 701 for about 4 months.  In general, on most every Image
pressed LD I see about 1 second of the black band problem per hour
of viewing.  I have one Image LD where it persists for about 5 seconds.
Non Image discs have been fine.  At first I didn't even notice the
1 second problems.  Thanks to the picky videophiles on the net I
started noticing it.  The 5 second glitch is very obvious on one LD.
The problem is very repeatable at the same locations on the same LDs.

This problem has not reached the threshold that I am ready to do something
about it, but it is frustrating.  Does anybody know just what Pioneer's
"party line" is about this problem?  I suspect they may blame Image for
doing something wrong in their pressings.  Since this is a known problem
with the 3090 and 701 why hasn't Pioneer fixed the problem?  From 
previous stories I have heard on the net it seems that taking in the unit
for repair doesn't typically resolve the problem.

It is understandable that people are very unsure about purchasing the
CLD-D701.  I was reluctant but it was the best option I had (my old
gear got ripped off and I was dealing with an insurance replacement
person).  Besides this problem the 701 is a great unit.  Why hasn't
Pioneer fixed such a clear flaw?

Dave Neff
neff@hp-vcd.vcd.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: sanelli@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Chris Sanelli)
Subject: Anyone have a Super VHS player I can use???
Summary: Anyone have a Super VHS player I can use???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:40:40 GMT
Keywords: Super, VHS, player, use




Anyone have a Super VHS (SVHS) player?  I need to transfer 10 SVHS tapes
to VHS.  I'm willing to pay good money for the use of your player.

Please e-mail me at sanelli@symcom.math.uiuc.edu or call (217) 332-2404.

Thank you very much,

         Chris Sanelli
From: knaru@gumby.Altos.COM (Kim Naru)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: extended warrenty
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:49:04 GMT
Reply-To: knaru@altos.COM (Kim Naru)
Organization: Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA

In article <5333@calmasd.Prime.COM> jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski) writes:
>In article <1g0cc7INNi31@gizmo.usc.edu> kimd@gizmo.usc.edu (Kim Daugherty) writes:
><
><I have seen many people recommend the manufacturers extended warrenty on this
><newsgroup.  
.
. deleted.
.
>
>	I wouldn't.  I never buy extended warranties and I do buy floor (demo)
>models.  Never had any problems with it.  The way the stuff seems to be
>engineered it either breaks down quickly (within weeks) or it lasts for
>	Jan Bielawski
>	Computervision, San Diego
>	jpb@calmasd.prime.com


I agree with Jan, In general extended warranties are a con job. 
It is a technique to squeeze more money out of you. Think about it,
you pay good money for the product and then  you are told
"Oh it may break, give us more money and we'll guarantee it".
I was always suspicious of it and then about a year ago I read an article on
how the idea of extend warranties was generating bigger profits for companies.
I would not buy an extended warranty for any electronics product.

In all fairness, on certain products extended warranties are a good idea,
for instance a car. A friend of  mine bought a Ford Taurus about 3 years
ago and paid $800 for an extended warranty. This warranty convered all
repairs(including gaskets, which most car warrantys don't cover) upto
a 100,000 miles or 7 years. His cost for each repair is $25. Shortly after
the warranty was phased out.

--kim


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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: D O E S A M E R I C A S A Y Y E S T O J A P A N ?
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:35:20 GMT

>D O E S A M E R I C A S A Y Y E S T O J A P A N ?

I T I S T O U G H T O T E L L W H E N Y O U D O N O T U S E S P A C E S A N
D W R I T E I N A L L C A P S

                           "Say yur prayers, yuh flea-picken' varmint!"
---
                                        Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
INTERNET:     moriarty@tc.fluke.COM
Manual UUCP:  {uunet, uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty
CREDO:        You gotta be Cruel to be Kind...
                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Photo CD
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:53:09 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <342@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes:

>But then it can also be argued that current camera lenses
>can *usually* not achieve even 100 lines/mm resolution at the film plane.
>(But what about the exceptions?  Leave them out in the cold?  Stifle the
>development of better optics?  Now can you see why I'm not happy with Photo
>CD, and won't be for a long time, IF EVER?)

Yes, you believe if something isn't perfect and can't meet 
*everybody's* requirements, from the beginning, it's useless.

I'm glad people like you weren't around when Uncle Wilbur and 
Uncle Orville were building their first airplane.

Come to think of it, you were. :-)



>: Seems to me that you can store more
>: data-per-cubic-measure-of-storage-medium optically (the emulsion is less
>: than 100th inch thick)

>Now why is it that there is so much interest in holographic memory ;-)

Er, hate to break this to you, but... CD-ROM is also optical.



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