HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Bosnia
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:02:49 GMT
Followup-To: alt.politics.bush
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <X7XFqB4w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us>,
elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) wrote:

> Non sequitor.  Get in the game, sport.  Hurricane relief has very little to do
> with Bosnia.  The people I was referring to were the folks left homeless after
> natural disasters in this country.  These are people that are victims of other
> disasters FEMA has botched.   Now, take your rifle out of your mouth and pay
> attention.

The TITLE of the message is "Bosnia."  Part of your message was about how
we were not doing anything for "Bosnia."  I was talking about "Bosnia."

--
Rick Eames                               My Opinions Are My Own (not
Apple's)
athos@apple.com

HERSCHENSOHN for US Senate.  Just say "No" to Barbara Boxer.
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From: birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: George Will on the GOP
Keywords: brainless linear bastards
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:53:26 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <qe4gqB1w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us> elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:
>birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush) writes:
>
>> Now then, we've been doing well at keeping abortion off this group.  As well
>> as we ever do, anyway.  So let's attempt to keep our inane, blithering,
>> worthless generalizations off the group, too, since all they really do is
>> cause others to believe we might be shitsuckingly ignorant knuckledragging
>> buffoons.
>>
>
>You mean, we'll all start acting like the Bush/Quayle campaign or his Danness
>Himself? <g>
>
And, by a strange coindence, the way
Clinton/Gore/Perot/ItDoesn'tMatterShitStillStinks are acting.

birdman
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: Why Bush whould/will burn for the delay in florida
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:47:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.215637.18697@news.uiowa.edu> bnolte@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Bill Nolte) writes:
>I hate to say this, well not really, but are you nuts?

	No, just really, really cynical. Real presidents can say "fuck 
states rights" and get away with it.

> You
>want to get mad and blame somebody, which it seems you always do, blame the
>governor for his slow reaction.  You say he wasn't playing politics with
>lives (but of course Bush was) and YOUR tone implies that he isn't an
>incompetent (but once again, Bush is), but he knew the rules.

	If the governer goes down for this, it's his own fault. If it were me,
I'd be doing some serious ass covering right about now, and it shouldn't be
too hard to confuse things and blame it all on bush. As for playing politics,
I blame bush for *not* playing politics when he had the chance. Politics is
Bushs job, and he stinks at it.

>Seems to me that once again the double standards of the left are oozing
>yet again.

	Nahh, you just can't see past your own ideology. I never said that Bush
was to blame, I think I even said that he isn't responsible for what happened.
What I did say is that Bush did a disservice to his own campaign, and for that
he diserves whatever he gets. Never mistake me for someone who actually gives
a shit.


-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
The feminist agenda is a socialist, anti-family political movement that 
encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice 
witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. - Pat Robertson 1992
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Subject: Re: GB's Foreign Policy Record? Gimme a Break!
Reply-To: zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide)
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:36:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.033811.1343@midway.uchicago.edu>, john peter wagner writes:
1)Is it the responsibility of an ambassador to be a linguist  or
to represent the government from which he comes?  His 'incomprehensible'
response to Tianenmen seems to have some support from political scientists.

	The answer to your question is both. (imho) The answer to your statement
	is that while it may have support in some circles, it was wrong. How
	George Bush can trumpet about Conservatism and Values and Life while
	he sends his people to toast the butchers in Beijing is beyond me. Hypocrisy
	doesn't cover it.   
                                             
3)So he didn't condemn them. So what. It wasn't the rest of Europe
that overthrew the generals.  It seems the people of Russia et al.
seem to have taken care of things well enough for themselves.  It displays
extreme foresight and coolness that Bush did what he did.

  	Foresight and coolness like a stunned sheep. 
	
It is hard to say what would have been the best action
after the fact.  We all say 'He should have done this,' or
'he should have done that,' but when the chips are down and the cameras
are rolling we find ourselves a little short for words.

	The beauty of it is that it is perfectly acceptable and expected for
	me to second-guess him. That's what he's asking me to do when 
	he asks me who I trust, and when he asks me to vote for him. So 
	I did, and I find him lacking. And I voted for him in 1988 and for 
	Reagan in 1984, but this year, I'm voting for Clinton. 

JZ

Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
From: c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA)
Subject: Re: Passing out Condoms  (Was Re: Better Off Than Four Years Ago NOT)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:32:24 GMT


Book suggestion!:

   Try reading Brave New World by Aldous Huxley.  Great book!
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
From: fred@johnd.tamu.edu (Fred Seals 5-2298)
Subject: Re: Will someone tell me the truth?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:35:55 GMT

The truth is:

	Democrats will raise your taxes, spend more on social programs, increase the size
	of government, restrict your ability to succeed, punish you if you do succeed and
	blame you for hurting those who do not succeed.

	Republicans will raise your taxes less, spend less on social programs, increase the
	size of government slower,  encourage you to succeed, try to reward your success
	and try to provide a handup not a handout for those who do not succeed.



That it and thats that.

fred

##############################################################################

He did inhale.  He lied about the draft.  He did sleep with Flowers. 
He did cheat on his wife.  He will raise taxes.  He will put people out of
work.  He is LIBERAL.

You can not be one kind of man and another kind of President.

Bush/Quale 92

Fred Seals

##############################################################################
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: hillyard@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Sean Edward Hillyard,F7 Clark,50649,)
Subject: Re: Clarence Thomas
Originator: hillyard@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:43:47 GMT

From article <6kmeqB5w164w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us>, by elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley):
[...]
> confirmed that one large constituency or another was going to be upset.  A
> lawmaker truly trying to reflect the feelings of his state was in a real
> quandry.
> 
> 
> 
> |Edward J. Branley                         elendil@mintir.New-Orleans.LA.US|

I am quite aware of the politics involved, but policy by opinion poll is one
of the main reasons for the problems we have with Congress.  The fact is the
response for a non-conservative senator was very clear if your goal was to do 
the correct thing, and not just assure reelection.  

If the nominee was qualified for the job it would be a different story--but 
he certainly wasn't in this case.

SEH
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: Re: Progressive taxes
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:39:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.174808.1549@oakhill.sps.mot.com>
dong@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Don M. Gibson) writes:
 
>
>close the loopholes!
>
This is like saying "eliminate waste." Waste is not a line item, and
"loopholes" are not labeled as such. You might, however, say "simplify the
tax code". The more baroque you make the code, the more incentives you
create to circumevent the intentions of those who codify such things. A
flat tax with a handful of specific exemptions (capital gains, local taxes)
would pretty much eliminate the ability to exploit complexity to create
loopholes.
 
>fixes?  student loans quick-fixes?  i think GB is the guy who has
>stuck us with the deficit that will haunt is for generations:(
>
Someone hasn't been paying attention ;-)
      --mike
From: pdl2r@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Peter D. Lauren)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Why Should I vote for Clinton? (long)
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:13:35 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <bazyar.714763675@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>
>>Were Kohl, Miyazawa and Thatcher elected for their military records?
>>Was Reagan?
>
>  No, they weren't elected _for_ their records, if they have them.
>However, who would you trust more : a slick politician, or a slick politician 
>who risked his life for his country?  The military service issue has
>always been strong in the US, for good reason.
>
You're evading the issue (which probably proves that you are really a Bush
supporter masquerading as an objective neutral).  Ulysses Grant was a great
war hero who went on to make one of the most corrupt and ineffectual presidents
this country has ever had.  His predicessor, Abraham Lincoln, had no millitary
experience was one of this country's greatest presidents.  The same can
be said of FDR.  

>-- 
> Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment

Peter Lauren.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu (tom)
Subject: another meaningless statistic
Organization: The Lab Rats
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:07:51 GMT

In article <5147@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes:

}Well it seems someone is better off under Reagan/Bush.  This is from the
}August 31 issue of Time.

}% of black families in the U.S. with incomes
}over $50,000

}1970:  9.9%
}1980: 10.9%
}1985: 12.3%
}1990: 14.5%

the above table is useless at best. when that $50,000 is indexed for
inflation it looks like this: (1970 dollars)

1970:  $50.000
1980:  $23,544
1985:  $18,030
1990:  $14,843

-- 
tom@udel.edu                                        ...!{gateway}!udel!tom
tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu           UDel: School of Life and Health Sciences

"Themes were useless; Destiny was here, and the foot pedals were bleeding."
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From: dlo@druwa.ATT.COM (OlsonDL)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Better Off Than Four Years Ago NOT
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:54:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.135251.13684@ornl.gov>, de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill) writes:
} In article <19664@drutx.ATT.COM>, dlo@druwa.ATT.COM (OlsonDL) writes:
} >In article <1992Aug21.232616.16804@sequent.com>, bills@sequent.com (Bill Sears) writes:
} >}
} >} I really get sick of hearing Bush claim that he is solely responsible
} >} for the downfall of communism just because it happened on his watch.
} >
} >Suppose one used that same logic to claim that the economic problems of
} >the US would have happened whether George Bush were president or not.
} >And that it is wrong to claim that Bush is solely responsibile for them
} >just because they happened on his watch.  What would be your response be
} >then?
} 
} That the U.S.'s economic problems are primarily a U.S. domestic problem, while
} the so-called end of communism was an international problem.  If Bush were
} president of these collapsed Communist countries, your argument would make sense.

If that is true, then it says that the rest of the world is largely
unaffected by the foreign policy of the president of the US.  Odd.
--
David Olson            dlo@drutx.att.com
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they
can bribe the people with their own money."  Alexis de Tocqueville
From: cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Taylor Evert)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Taxes
Date: 1 Sep 1992 15:05:39 GMT
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems

In article <1992Aug31.195309.15516@news.ysu.edu> af610@yfn.ysu.edu (Ben 
Hanson) writes:
>  Is there a taxpayer in the country who sees George owning a
> vacant lot in Texas, using this as a dodge to avoid paying
> state taxes, and considers him ethically superior to Ronald
> Reagan's mythical welfare queen?

Another point.  Is this worse than Jesse Jackson moving to Washington DC 
for purely political reasons and trying to obtain statehood status so that 
he can be annoited Senator.

Mark T. Evert
Friendswood, TX

My opinions are my own.
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Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Religious Leaders Criticize Republican Blasphemy
From: mapower@eis.calstate.edu (Mark Power)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:08:50 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
From: jacksonk@polaris.cs.rpi.edu (Keith Jackson)
Subject: Jesus wins lottery
Followup-To: talk.bizarre
Organization: Bible Thumpers of the Far Right
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:55:32 GMT

	UPI

        (HOUSTON) -- The Texas Lottery produced its first hometown winner
	yesterday when a Houston man walked away with the big money in the
	weekly drawing. Jesus Almaguer of Houston chose the right door to
			^^^^^
	win one-million dollars. The 40-year old Almaguer was immediately
	surrounded by dozens of relatives and hometown well-wishers after
	the drawing held in the grand foyer of the Gus Wortham Theater
	Center in downtown Houston.

Funny, I thought I saw him at the Republican National Convention!

;^)
-- 
            ^  >
            O o                                                 \_O
           >=-=<        Keith Jackson == jacksonk@cs.rpi.edu      |O
             U                                                  _/ \_
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From: jfed@athena.mit.edu (Jude G Federspiel)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Passing out Condoms  (Was Re: Better Off Than Four Years Ago NOT)
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:55:11 GMT
Organization: MIT Project Athena


		(abridged versions of all included posts)



In article <BtJL2I.K4z@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug25.131123.24352@crd.ge.com> doel@crd.ge.com writes:
|> >  We should encourage the kids to refrain from the dangerous behavior.
|> 
|>   Again, ---> HOW? <---.   And I mean "how" that actually works 
|>   most of the time.   Condoms have a certain failure rate but they
|>   work most of the time.   Everything I've read, heard, or witnessed
|>   with my own eyes suggests that even the best parental guidance has
|>   a higher failure rate than condoms.  
|> 

I'll tell you.  It's so simple it's almost funny.  You start when the child is
very young.  You teach the child sex before marraige is wrong, dangerous, and
can have catastrophic consequences.  You show them (eventually we'll get a 
generation that can do this) by example that a loving married couple has just
as much sexual fun as an unmarried pair.  You teach them that although sexual
urges can be pretty strong during teens and pre-marital years, it's just
another thing you have to wait out.  Too few Americans have the discipline to
do this.  Kids just have to be taught it's not wrong to take a stand, to differ
from the crowd.  (a lot of teen sex is the result of peer pressure to be
sexually active).  Voila!

Anyone who doesn't believe this is true just doesn't want to admit it because
it's obviously not an _easy_ thing to do, and people have become too
accustomed to promiscuousness (?) -- people won't like saying they have to
give up something they like in order to solve a problem.  Instead, they
say, "lets hand out condoms so they can have the best of both worlds:  health
and baby-free sex."  That's fine.  But it's blood on their hands every time 
someone is impregnated or infected with some sexually communcated disease because 
of condom failure.

|> 
|> 
|> ----peter


Jude Federspiel
jfed@athena.mit.edu
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (QUOTE OF THE YEAR)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Take Note:  Victory for Bush in another front.....
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:22:47 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <01GO047HLUTUCIQXXC@UMAECS>, VIGNESWA@ecs.umass.edu           writes...
>	Gang Violence was one of the serious problems in LA.  President Bush,
>as promised, eradicated  gangs from LA area.  Members  of various gangs take
>part in picnics and baseball games together. They no longer kill people, but 
>are in community service.  This is a great victory for President Bush in the
>decades long war against gangs.  Street War has been won by Republican White
>House.  People can walk in the streets without any fear of a cross fire.  Mr
>George Bush, the great President of USA after Ronald Reagan  made LA a safer
>place to live.  Of course, there are few (gang looking) groups around.  They
>have "favorite group" status anyway.....
>  
>Vicky:
>Aug 24, UMass

It takes an increadible rationalization to credit Bush with the "peace"
in LA. But to give you a chance, I would like you to post any proof that
Bush has anything to do with the "peace" that exists today.
	After you do that, please post whether you believe 
Bush had anything to do with the killing and burning that preceded today.
Thanks.

-Garrett
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
From: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Subject: Re: Political Wives...
Originator: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Reply-To: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Organization: Group 101, MIT Lincoln Lab.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:38:09 GMT


In article <27AUG199200134624@chemvx.tamu.edu>, lemoine@chemvx.tamu.edu (Brett G. Lemoine) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug27.041222.29745@news.Hawaii.Edu>, johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan) writes...
|> }In article <1992Aug24.172055.27453@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> rogers@ial1.jsc.nasa.gov (mister rogers) writes:
|> }>You gotta have a license to fish. You gotta have a license
|> }> to drive. But they let any asshole be a parent.
|> } 
|> }Not true, unfortunately.  Try adopting if you are gay, lesbian or
|> }bisexual.
|> 
|> or worse, atheist. Fortunately this doesn't affect me having kids the
|> more typical way.

   Or even worse, married to someone of a different religious faith.  Then you
get two major adoption agencies pissed at you....

-- 
Dr. Marty Ryba             |	Generation X:
Group 101 - Radars 'R Us   |
MIT Lincoln Laboratory     |  Too young to be cynical,
ryba@ll.mit.edu            |		too old to be optimistic.
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From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,talk.bizarre,talk.abortion,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: But He is Correct
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:13:30 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

dxc4@po.CWRU.Edu (David Condon) writes:
] 
] In a previous article, kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) says:
] >
] >Or a responsible woman who is not enslaved by her lusts.  Apparently
] >those who are [so enslaved] seem to be in a perpetual state of denial.
] 
] Remember, Theodore ... Peace on Earth ... Purity of Essence ... Keep a
] close watch on those Precious Bodily Fluids, now, y'hear?

I'm sorry David that you have Missed the 
Purity of Essence of a TeddyDearestPost.

The Point Remains that Millions upon Millions
of Heterosexuals are daily in denial that 
they can be cured and lead wholesome and 
productive lives.

Just take a simple Looke around you, where you
work, where you live, where you shop and where
you sleep. There are People Needlessly Suffering
from Flagrant HeteroSexuality and unwilling to
do anything about getting the cure.

Fortunately there are Brave, Bold, and courageous
people Like TeddyDearest willing to brave the
outrageous slings and arrows of misfortune to
try and bring some solace to these desperate
and depraved persons.

Find Some Compassion there David! Dig Deep
into your soul and ask yourself:

"What I have done today to help free someone
from the Degradation and Dispare of HeteroSexuality."


ciao
drieux


ps: HeteroSexualityTheDeathKult is not for breakfast anymore,
its a New Day In America, and a Time for new Ideas and 
New Leadership under a Renewed Reagan Bush Ticket.







-- 
If I have Told You Once, I've Told You a Thousand Times:
To Keep Good Girls From Going Badm
Put them back in the Refrigerator.
This Also Works for Stale NFS Handles.
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