From: not@ailab.ncsu.edu (N O Tai)
Subject: Re: Geneticism
Reply-To: not@ailab.ncsu.edu (N O Tai)
Organization: NCSU Artificial Intelligence Systems Laboratory
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:34:37 GMT


From the keyboard of radams@BNR.CA (Rodney Adams):
: By the way, I do consider homosexual relations ... a perversity.  Even 
: casting religious beliefs aside, such relations are entirely unnatural, 
: as they can never lead to offspring.  This does not cause me to hate such 
: individuals, and indeed I have worked with and came to respect such an
: individual, but the act itself I can see as nothing less than disgusting.
: Why would anyone not born with such a genetic defect actually choose to 
: commit such perversity?  I have even heard that some study showed that 
: most people do have some homosexual experience sometime in their lives, 
: but I can honestly say that I have never once had such a desire.

My wife had a conditioned dislike of bananas. She couldn't even stand the 
smell, but she had no adverse health reaction to bananas. We had little to 
eat once and were very hungry. A friend unknowing brought us a huge bunch 
of bananas and a few other things. My wife finally tried a banana, and then 
another and another. Now she likes bananas! 

Now, if you had some kind of physical reaction to participating in homosex, 
I could excuse it as justified. Since you don't, I must assume that you have 
a phobia; it is called homophobia. Now there is such a thing as not wishing 
to participate in homosex because it is not interesting to you, just as some 
think bananas don't taste all that good. But you insist that you have a 
viceral reaction to even discussing homosexual acts. That is the more 
extreme form of homophobia. You are truly frightened of even the concept, or 
of the act occurring around you even if you needn't participate. This is 
clearly conditioned and represents a genuine fear (phobia) on your part. 
There have been a lot of people who couldn't admit their homosexuality who 
have had this phobia and still do, but I think it can occur without that. 

However, you must realize that such a powerful phobia as yours is indeed a 
disruption to others who feel as normal as pie about homosex going on around 
them, even if they decline to try it. They are usually simply interested in 
heterosex and have no feeling one way or the other about homosex, as would 
seem obvious and appropriate. But you continue to generate an irrational 
fear not only of you having it accepted by you, but also the practice of it 
around you and even condoning it for others who like it. This is clearly a 
phobia which interferes with others' right to life, liberty, and the pursuit 
of happiness. Surely you aren't such a coward that you cannot even watch 
homosex dispassionately, since, I presume, it elicits no passion in you? Or 
is that really true?... 

Whereas the reaction of a reasonable person to homosex might be, "oh, that's 
interesting", as in watching two women if the watcher is hetero; or two men, 
if the watcher is hetero, it might be, "wheee, then there's more women for 
me", instead you present us with your dark shit and ask us to tolerate your 
intolerance. Nothing doing.

Dr N.O. Tai
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