HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl alliance a crock!
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:54:14 GMT
 <1992Oct1.153541.770@magnus.acs.
 <1992Oct1.212150.6923@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

Once again, Pat, you are incorrect. Penn State is quite obviously NOT a Big
Ten team this season, or they would not be playing in the Blockbuster Bowl,
which IS part of the Coalition (although it is a minor part of the second
tier).

For this season, Penn State is an independent, and the Big Ten didn't tell
them anything about where they could go.

Let's look and see what would happen if East Carolina (another independent
team) ended the season undefeated. Can you determine which bowl game they'd
be going to? There don't seem to be any spots in the major bowl games
for independent, non-Catholic football teams, now do there?

For the last time, the Big Ten doesn't have anything to do with Penn State's
bowl situation, except for the fact that the Coalition *may* have not cared
about excluding Penn State for only one year, given the greater good.
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Mike Dahmus       MXD118@PSUVM  or  dahmus@cs.psu.edu
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Possible bad omen for Oilers, Eagles?
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 30 SEP 92 16:30:21    

In article <1acsmlINN9l2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto) writes...

> 
>I was just thinking about this:
> 
>Thinking back over past Super Bowl winners, no team, with the exception
>of the '89 49ers & George Seifert, has won the SB without the coach who
>built that team coaching it.  Teams that change coaches after reaching
>a certain level tend not to get past that level, while teams that remain
>with the same coaches go on to a higher level.  By way of demonstration:

During the off season I posted the following...

Heim's Law of Football Entropy:  The probability of a dynasty 
continuing is inversely related to the number and magnitude of changes 
in the organization.

>1983 LA Raiders - Tom Flores, coach since 1978 (right?)

This is as much an exception as the 49ers/Seifert.  Both were 
assistant coaches who won the SB in the 1st year after being promoted 
to head coach.

>I think this shows the trends pretty well.  With the exception of
>George Seifert and (maybe) Tom Flores, no coach ever took another
>cvoach's winning team to the super bowl.  Which bodes badly for
>the Eagles and Oilers this year...

I think the trend you've found is caused not by some mysterious 
trouble coaching players aquired by another coach but rather by the 
fact that it's really hard to find a good coach, much less 2 in a row. 

JGH
From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: MNF Phil 31 Dal 7
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:34:39 GMT
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR

In article <1ar337INNpi5@uwm.edu>, caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter) writes:
|> 
|> 	Philly handled Dallas very well, and made Aikman look pretty
|> 	bad. At least I wont have to listen to the umpteen million
|> 	Cowboy fans "woofing", but now we have to listen to the Eagles
|> 	fans.... :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Right, but they've (the fans) won their SB. Its a good thing the Eagles dont
peak as early as their fans.
|> 
|> 	really, I though the game wasnt all it was hyped to be.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Right again. Sort of how the last few SBs have gone, huh ?

|> 
|> 	Mark
|> 	GO VIKINGS!

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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Steelers in the News
Organization: Clark University
Date: 3 OCT 92 20:34:59 GMT


In a previous article, Christopher Glenn Huegle <ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>A nice article on O'Donnell in Sportss Illustrated calling him
>a QB of the future huh?  I remember not long ago when the same
>thing was being said by sports illustrated about Bubby Brister.

O'Donnell and three other young QBs were featured: Favre, Marinovich and
Nagle. They actually made Favre sound the most promising, but that's taking
the easy way out since (as far as I know) he's the only one of the four who
has not lost a game in which he started. Generally the article gave positive
reviews of each.

One of the action photos shows Woodson getting burned by the Packers' rookie.
Now I'm glad that game WASN'T broadcast in my area...

Bart
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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Subject: Re: HALF-TIME SCORES
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 01:46:36 GMT

>
>So do you think that half time scores add up to as much as .001
>percent of USENET traffic?  Hardly the "bandwidth buster".
>

No, not by themselves, but when added to the other chaff in
newsgroups everywhere, add up to a hefty percentage of USENET traffic.

>
>If you're really concerned just cut down some of the groups your site
>receives.

This happens all the time.  And guess which groups system administrators
choose to eliminate.  comp.unix.bizarre.bugs?  No.  comp.geek.basement? Never.
rec.sport.football.nfl?  Bingo!

Perhaps we should send your name and address to all the people who've
lost news feeds because of attitudes such as yours.  I'm sure they'd
like to thank you.

					me
From: robb@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Rob Biagini)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1992 23:52:46 GMT
Subject: Michael Haynes vs Chicago Bears?
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

Does anyone know the condition of Michael Haynes?  Will he be playing this week
against the Chicago Bears?

Thanks
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From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: Do the Raiders Have Fans?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:39:20 GMT

In <1992Sep21.201245.28262@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:

>Depends how you define a true fan.  I would venture to guess that
>the "true fans" are in the EAST BAY, Re: Oakland.  I still see
>alot of Raider bumper stickers, people wearing the team clothing,
>etc., in the Northern, Central and San Joaquin areas of Calif.

A lot of people in the Oakland area still hate the Traitors and Al
"Dickhead" Davis for leaving, too, let us not forget.

As far as the sales of Raider hats, jackets, and such, don't forget that
these items are very popular amongst inner city gangsters, many of whom
probably have little or no interest in football at all.  No, I think
that the luster is off of the silver and black.  They are no longer the
workingman's team, the rebel's team.  Now they're the crack-addict's
team, the street-junkie's idol, and their "commitment to excellence" has
become a "commitment to mediocrity".
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From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Alleged Cowboy bashers (was Re: Dallas Cowboys v. NYG)
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:23:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <2499@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>Oh, give it a rest.  Just because the boy cries "wolf" doesn't mean that
>there isn't a wolf there.  If you read Dustin's posts, you would realize
>that he *is* a Cowboy basher, and somewhat proud of it, too, apparently.
>He is an Oilers fan, so it seems pretty natural.  I do the same to the
>Oilers.  It's called a "rivalry" -- maybe you've heard of it.  The Cowboys
>could be 16-0 and sanctioned by every major power on the globe and most
>Oiler fans would still be trashing them.

Damn right.  Packers fans hate the Bears, Broncos fans hate the Raiders, Chiefs
fans hate the Raiders, and Cowboys fans hate the Redskins.  I hate the Cowboys.
I think that they're a bunch of overrated posers that have yet to convince me
that they're Super Bowl material, or anything outside of wild card material.

I do think it's funny, however, that whenever anyone doesn't bend over and kiss
the Cowboys' butts, you have countless Cowboys fans whining about "Cowboy ba-
shing."  I don't see this from anyone else's fans.  Maybe everyone else's fans
aren't so insecure.

>> This is for the express purpose of embarrassing 
>>Cowboy fans who throw this accusation around constantly.

Hell, let them call me a Cowboys basher.  I am one.

GO OILERS


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From: asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar)
Subject: SuperBowl prediction
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 04:58:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.124851.2236@merrimack.edu>, brownd@merrimack.edu
writes:
|> Any predictions as to who will be playing in the next Super Bowl?
|>
|> Doug B.

49ers and the Bills

-Ashish
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From: asgari@ssc01.unet.com (Asgari Roger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The EAGLES have landed OR Cowboys caught with pants down!
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:13:48 GMT
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City

In article <1992Oct6.043023.18749@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>FINAL SCORE:
>Eagles:  31
>Cowboys:  7  Ouch...
>
>Whip a tie, I O, get along little doggey, your misfortune and
>none of my own. :-)
>
>Now let's see, the Eagles dropped a bomb on the Cowboys.
>It was disguised as a superior overall, balanced offense/defense.
>True, Cunningham's overall stats were not great, but they
>certainly alot better than Aikman. Aikman is a FRAUD! The
>space ship that dropped him off on this planet better come
>by on the next shuttle and pick him up. :-) Man, what a CHOKER!
>
>Herschel came thru when needed. WHAM BAM, How do you 'MAM!
>I love it when the Cowboys lose. I don't why, but I just do.
>It must have something to do with all these American Pie Shit
>or something. :-)
>-- 
>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
>  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
>  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain

		Listen old chap, atleast Troy tossed for over 200 yards,
	I believe Cunningham only passed for 124 yards. True,  Troy was
	intercepted 3 times, but Cunningham did not have an interception
	free night either.  

		A well deserved  victory by all accounts for the eagles;
	however, what amazed moi was the simple fact that da Pokes had 
	more offensive yards than the birds. Not the most important stat
	but there you have it.


		GO COWBOYS!!!!!!
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:39:50 -0400 
From: Christopher Glenn Huegle <ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: '72 Dolphins/Steelers

In response to Doug (sorry I can't copy the post here), I would
like to start with the running game.  You mention that Morris and
Csonka each had 1000 yards that season and that it has only happened
1 other time.  Actually, it has happened twice.In 86 (I think) both
Kevin Mack and Earnest Byner rushed for a 1000 yards for the Browns.
The other time just happened to be Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier for
the Steelers that are being compared.  And if my memory serves me
correctly, Harris/Bleier had a higher total than Csonka/Morris.
So in no way does your Rushing argument hold.  The O-Line is
practically impossible to compare.  As far as quarterbacks, I'd
imagine you would be one of the limited number of people who actually
follow football who would take Griese over Bradshaw...and I think
you should see a Psychiatrist about that.  The recieving core was
definitely in the Steelers favor with Swann/Stallworth.
Both teams had a good defense, but the Steelers were a bit more
intense, which although it does not guarentee consistency, it does
guarentee that they will be ready for the big game, which this Dream
Game would have been.  How many Hall of Famers came from the Dolphins
D? I would give the edge to the Iron Curtain by a fairly large margin,
in no way insulting the excellent Dolphins D, but the Steelers D was
just so much better.  As far as coaches, it would seem that one could
consider Noll better because he was able to keep his team in contention
longer, but of course he had much more talent.  I might actually agree
with you that Dolphins coaching was better, but not enough to make a
difference.
But it is pretty difficult to call cross year games, so no one could
ever be sure.  But in a series of 10 games i would say the Steelers
would win 7.  In a single game, I would give it to the Steelers, but
I think you could have guessed that.

                              Chris
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From: steveva@ecs.comm.mot.com (Steve Van Swol)
Subject: Status of Eric Green?
Organization: secure_comm
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:24:02 GMT


Does anyone know the status of Eric Green TE for Pittsburgh?
Will he be playing on Sunday?

Thanks.
From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Saints Niners game
Date: 28 Sep 1992 03:43:47 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <Bv9KJC.JD@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi) writes:
>
>Could someone post the score please.  Even intermidiate scores are
>fine.  If you do not want to post non-final scores to the net then
>email them to me. 

	Well, I dont know if anyone posted, but final score was:

	SF 16 NO 10


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From: cser@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Erin Render)
Subject: Schedule Request - BEARS
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:53:17 GMT

Would someone please e-mail the Bear's schedule?

Thanks, in advance!

E. Render
e-mail internet:  CSER@bgu.edu

Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:46:03 -0400 
From: "Calvin D. Swartzentruber" <cs6t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: How to read standings

When the standings for a team are printed up, usually after the
percentage comes two columns, a PF and a PA.  Could someone please tell
me what these two abbreviations stand for, and what the numbers below
them mean?  Thanx.

GO EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Calvin
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Power Ratings
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:25:51 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

Here are the computer program's "power ratings" for Week 6.  What with
all the upsets, the race for the top spots has become MUCH tighter.
===




             NFL Team Ratings 


      Team           Off  Def  Total

      San Francisco   40   25   65
      Buffalo         43   20   63
      Philadelphia    29   33   62
      Washington      34   28   62
      New Orleans     20   37   57
      Kansas City     27   28   55
      Houston         29   24   53
      Miami           32   21   53
      Atlanta         30   18   48
      Detroit         26   21   47
      Dallas          25   19   44
      Denver          17   26   43
      Minnesota       26   17   43
      Pittsburgh      17   26   43
      N.Y. Giants     22   20   42
      Chicago         23   17   40
      L.A. Raiders    16   22   38
      San Diego       14   21   35
      Cleveland       14   20   34
      N.Y. Jets       16   17   33
      Seattle          9   24   33
      Green Bay       13   18   31
      L.A. Rams       14   17   31
      Tampa Bay       15   14   29
      Phoenix         15   13   28
      Cincinnati      17   10   27
      Indianapolis     3   17   20
      New England      2   15   17
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From: danb@pogo.wv.tek.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bermanisms
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:54:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1891
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville, OR.

Thanks to all who replied regarding Col. Muster.  I never realized what I
sheltered life I have led by not playing CLUE :-))


Dan
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From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: Cowboys can kick Bills Butt
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:47:52 GMT
Keywords: n


>Sorry Doug, but what kind of Educated Cowboy fan goes to NEW YORK school
>I bet you think Bills will win the AFC as well... NOT!!! 
>Your education is being deprived up there in NEW YORK, need to head to 
>T E X A S if you wish to have your education completed...
>
>I hate all D*@! Yankees opps, make that only the uneducated ones, opps
>Had it right the first time....
>
  
Isn't funny how this Texan is calling all Yankees uneducated, but
he cannot spell "oops"????  And if we are going to get real techical,
I don't see many Noble Prize winners coming from "dem Mason-Dixon"
unversities.....
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Buccs record vs QBs (Re: LIONS update)
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  2 OCT 92 10:18:42    

In article <1992Oct1.160155.21936@pdn.paradyne.com>, lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes...

>for Green Bay,  no,  no QBs got injured but half-time of that game may
>have been the last time we'll get to see the Majik-man for a while.

Majkowski started the next game vs the Bengals.  His injury had 
nothing to do with the Buccaneers.

JGH
From: bm562@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard L. Trionfo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: MNF halftime
Date: 29 Sep 1992 22:06:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


    Did anyone think that Randall Cunningham would have done
something such as ask if his mike was on and then go into a 
tirade calling Keith Jackson a greedy son of a bitch and other
great things to show how much his ex-teammates care about his
(MR. Jackson's) quest for cash.  
    As was said on WIP today, it was so convenient that there
was a camera in Keith's house so he can say how little it 
was the cash.  
    These comments make him sound like a perfect choice for
Hypocrite Ross Perot's vp candidate.
                               Rich
From: edg@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (edwin.g.green)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: COLTS
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:38:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct5.131555.17110@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> starg@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (tony.a.stargel) writes:
>
>Does anyone know why Rodney Culver had only 1 carry for the TD???????
>Anthony Johnson had 20 carries??!!?!??!!
>
>I found this odd since Culver had all the work the first three games.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Tony Stargel


I have wondered the same thing.  I have seen nothing on the news and
nothing in the Star indicating any problems.  There were no injuries
reported except for a slight concussion to one of the corners.

I imagine part of the reason is that the offense is different with
George back.

Ed Green



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From: skitchen@pilot.njin.net (Not your average USENET junkie...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Raiders Injuries: Tim Brown
Keywords: Tim Brown, Hurt?
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:11:07 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi, everyone.  Query: I've heard that Tim Brown's been having
hamstring problems.  Can anyone with more info than me tell me what
his condition is and whether or not he'll be playing?

Thanks for your help.

Scott
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Possible bad omen for Oilers, Eagles?
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:08:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <BvGB29.KwI@rice.edu>,  () writes:
> In article <1acsmlINN9l2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J.
> Dibenedetto) wrote:
> > With the exception of
> > George Seifert and (maybe) Tom Flores, no coach ever took another
> > cvoach's winning team to the super bowl.  Which bodes badly for
> > the Eagles and Oilers this year...
> 
> 	  I can't say anything about the Eagles, but I wouldn't count Pardee's
> absence in earlier years as a liability.  Why do you think this trend
> exists?  Is it because every coach has strengths that he builds his team
> on? A former defensive coach, for instance, might do a better job building
> his defense (an oversimplification, but you get the idea).  If a 
> succeeding coach tries to maintain his predeccessor's 'team' whose 
> strengths are not the new coaches, is that what leads to a decline (or 
> lack of improvement) in the team?
>
> 	    In any case, the Oilers are NOT the team they were under Glanville.
> A lot of the personnel are the same, true, but the style and type of
> football they play are very different.  I think it is fair to say that
> the Oilers are already a better team than they were under Glanville -
> they may not make the Superbowl, but their chances are better now
> than they have been in recent memory.  Your point might be valid, if 
> Pardee had stuck with the 'Glanville' character (no run and shoot, lots
> of aggressive defense, etc...).
> 		   What do you think?

I think you may be onto something here.  Using the Eagles as an example,
there is no doubt that Buddy Ryan left Rich Kotite with one hell of a
football team.  Ryan was a defensive guy and loaded up the Eagles very
heavily in that area.  Kotite is an offensive guy and has addressed
that area while turning the controls of the defense over to Bud Carson.

Kotite has developed an offensive line and a rushing attack, something
that Buddy never was able to accomplish.  So, offenseively the Eagles
look to be better than they ever were under Buddy.  Carson has molded
Buddy's defense into something special.  Gone is the high-risk blitz
on every play which sells out the corngerbacks.  Carson believes
pressure on the QB can be achieved in different ways and only uses the
high-risk blitz on occasion.  Which makes it that much more effective
when it's not expected.  So, the Eagles have improved defensively as
well.

The majority of the team is still Buddy's, but the strategies of the
team and the demeanor of the players have no resemblance.  It is a
different team altogether.


E-A-G-L-E-S

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