From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Workers hate windoze, revolution at 11!  :-)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:36:51 GMT

In <1992Nov12.032128.20427@itsmail1.hamilton.edu> jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy) writes:

>In article <1992Nov12.001222.25542@netcom.com> xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters) writes:
>>
>>Although there are a few people who know nothing about computers, but
>>can still see what a completely lame system Windoze is.  Take my mother,
>>who just bought (with no aid or input from me, I might add) a brand new
>>386 machine for word-processing.  She refused to let them give her
>>Windoze--she may not be very technical, but she's encountered Windoze at
>>work, and hates it because it's so slow and awkward compared to DOS
>>text-mode.
>>
>If someone gave me another copy of OS/2 (I'm not using my current copy),
>in a bundle, at no extra charge, I would certainly not stand on ceremony
>and "refuse" to take it even though I did not intend to use it.

Well, the simple fact of the matter is that she was able to get a
cheaper computer that didn't come with Windoze.  Although she had to go
to a second vendor.  Bundling is a myth!  MS is not giving away Windoze,
they're selling it.  All that bundling means is that you're paying for
the copy of Windoze whether you want it or not.  In fact, if it were me,
and some company offered to throw in Windoze with my computer, I would
demand that they not give me the software, and that they discount my
computer by the cost of that software.  If they didn't, I'd probably
take my business elsewhere.  Which is exactly what my mother did--she
may not understand computers, but she's still no fool.

>true, your mother, methinks, made a very short-sighted decision based,
>it seems, on the incompetence of the people who configured here Windows
>system at work.  I use Windoze at home, in the office, on my portable
>(and in my wife's office, legal copies all!) and it simply doesn't
>crash.

I didn't say anything about crashing.  My mother types over 150 wpm. 
Windoze cannot keep up with her typing.  She also doesn't like rodents. 
Especially when you have to use them in a word-processing program. 
She upgraded from a dedicated word-processing machine.  Coming from an
environment like that, Windoze looks like a *total* dog.

Actually, I've never had Windoze crash on me, either, but I haven't used
it very much.  I guess I can agree that it doesn't crash in 10 minutes
of use.  :-)  I haven't seen any Windoze software yet that I'm
interested in.  There's far more DOS software out there, and most of it
works better than the Windoze equivalents IMO.

ObAdvocacy: of course, this is why I like OS/2.  I get to use the truly
gigantic base of software available for DOS, *and* I get real
multitasking, 32-bit apps if I want, and I could even run a Windoze
program if the urge ever struck me.  Though I can't really imagine this
latter circumstance.  :-)

>  You mother ought to recommend to her boss that they hire better
>MIS people...

Which boss?  She's freelance, and she's used Windoze at a bunch of
different places.  T'ain't the installation, it's the "operating
environment" that she dislikes.

Actually, it seems that Windoze is far more popular with bosses than it
is with the hordes of secretaries and such.  I can't count the number of
office workers I've talked to who complain about Windoze, but have to
use it because it's mandated in the office.  Certainly far more than the
number of office workers I've talked to who actually *like* Windoze. 
I'd be interested in seeing a poll of the reactions of people who find
themselves using Windoze in the workplace, will 'e or nill 'e.  It might
surprise a lot of people.

>  (I have the NT beta, too, though no cd-rom; at they price
>Microsoft if offering it for, anyone interested in this sort of thing
>would be foolish not to take them up on it!). 

Now this part I agree with.  :-)
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