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From: urbano@ll.mit.edu (John Urbano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:34:35 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory


 Two of my favorite musicals of all time are Yankee Doodle Dandee
 and 1776.

 YDD is a classic, I just saw it yesterday for the first time in about
 6 years.  Unfortunately they colorized it, and didn't do a very good 
 job.  Thank god that colorization has no effect on the music.

 1776 does not seem to have a large following, but I don't understand
 why.  

 Let's hear some opinions on these two great musical.

 John

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From: kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REVIEW: NAKED LUNCH
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:26:13 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Jul26.124451.3981@nuscc.nus.sg> med50003@nusunix2.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN) writes:
>Naked Lunch - Movie by D Cronenberg et al
>
>The movie actually has little to do with the book although there are
>some ideas borrowed from it. The pivotal item seems to be related to the
>William Tell scene (I'm trying not to give it away here). It relates to
>how much an addiction can take over a person's life and actions. I think
>that that was what attracted me to this movie. It is very dark in that
>way in showing the underbelly of life's unpleasantness and pulls no
>punches in showing the consequences of our actions.
>

Cronenberg was once quoted (somewhere) as saying that a true adaptation of
the book would result in a movie that would cost several $100 million, which
was why it was decided early on that the movie would be about the writing of
the book, _Naked Lunch_, not a real adapation.

The William Tell scene is a nod to William S Burroughs, not the book.  
Burroughs actually did in real life what Bill Lee does in the movie, with the
same consequences, concerning the William Tell scene.

>My favourite scenes are those in which Peter Weller spins ridiculous
>tales out of nothing to amuse / confuse or just to play with the words.

I got the feeling that those were passages straight out of the book.  Is there
anyone who's read the book and seen the movie who can confirm this?

>
>I'd watch it again but I too would be wary about recommending it unless
>I knew what the other person liked. Be careful with this one.
>

I would recommend it to someone who is patient with movies and who loves to
sit in the theater and try to untangle the filmmaker's motives.  _Naked Lunch_
is a difficult movie to grasp at the end of a first viewing.  I don't think
it's all that deep, but the ending might be extremely confusing for some.  This
is not light fare for the raised-on-TV-entertainment addicts.

I found the movie a bit slow at times after my first viewing, but I didn't 
sense that at all after the second time I saw it.  Since I also wasn't trying
to figure out what was "really" happening during the second screening, I had
more time to enjoy the details in the shots and some of the nuances in dialogue
that I had missed the first time.

>
>Gervais Wan


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From: k_workman@csc32.enet.dec.com (KWorkman)
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Organization: DEC
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:17:46 GMT


In article <1992Jul22.152315.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes...
> [ Stuff deleted ....] 
>B. Who am I this time" is about a small town theater group who puts on a
>different show every summer. Walken played a VERY shy man who was recruited to
>play the lead in A Streetcar Named Desire. Once into the role he becomes
>transformed into the part, almost becoming Brando. when he leaves the role he
>reverts to his shy "clark kent" personna. There's also a sweet love story in
>there...  Worth looking for.
> 
>rlwilliams

Where can one obtain a video of this movie?  I understand it was made for
TV?  I'm having problems at our local video rental stores in Colorado
trying to find some of the older movies like Brainstorm.  Blockbuster says
they don't carry it anymore.  Is there a video club or some such thing
one can join (like through mail order) that has these movies for sale/rent?

-kw
From: perry@Unify.Com (Perry Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Keywords: n
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:56:46 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation

mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) wrote:
> [heavily edited]
>
>They had the arm, the chip and the "case record" of the first
>terminator, and didn't believe a damn thing.  Also, YOU know how nice
>and sensible a kind of guy Dyson is, but she doesn't.  <Sarcasm on> To
>be sure, the way she behaves, it's almost as if being locked in an
>asylum had convinced her people wouldn't listen to her. <Sarcasm off>
>

My impression was that the Evil Forces Of Government (tm) kept the arm
and the CPU secret from everyone and that only (the defense contractor?)
CyberDyne was allowed to even know of its existence.  Hence, the hospital
(or anyone else) knew of no evidence to support her wild story.

Personally, I preferred the first movie but I would hesitate to analyse
my opinion to the extent practised in this thread!

--
Perry Clarke                   perry@unify.com                 (916) 928 6287
Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA                   I speak only for Me, Inc.
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From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi (sp?) - Any fans out there?
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:14:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.112124.29374@daimi.aau.dk> jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due) writes:


>Well I'm not a fan of Greta Scacchi, but I'm pretty certain that she's
>Italian.  If I'm not mistaken, she played the princess in "Flash
>Gordon", and played absolutly awful.

No, that was Ornella Muti.



-- 
Niven's Law #14:   There exist minds that think as well as you do, but
                   differently.
Niven's Corollary: The gene-tampered turkey you're talking to isn't
                   necessarily one of them.
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Disney teams with Merchant-Ivory
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:11:53 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

Very interesting news in the "Daily Magazine" section of the Philadelphia
Inquirer today...

	Walt Disney Studios has signed a three-year deal with the
	director/producer team Ismail Merchant and James Ivory, the 
	pair responsible for _A Room With a View_, _Howards End_, and
	others.  Disney will pay half the development cost of all their 
	films (save those already committed to other studios) and give
	Merchant-Ivory complete control on any movie costing less than
	$12 million.

       "The first project will be _Jefferson in Paris_, about TJ's five 
	years as ambassador to France; Greta Scaachi is signed to play 
	Jefferson's good friend Maria Cosway [adding to another current
	thread], with longtime Merchant-Ivory collaborator Ruth Prawer
	Jhabvala penning the script.  Disney will later release the team's
	_Portrait of a Lady_.  It will star neither Whoopi Goldberg nor 
	Bette Midler, and there has been no talk of doing _Honey, I Shrunk 
	Marcel Proust_...so far."

Sounds like they want to hit mainstream...I just hope they keep their high
level of quality.  And I hope there is no plans for Micky Mouse in _Maurice_...

Greg Bole                               "When you wake up, wipe the slugs off
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             your face.  Be ready for a new day!"
                                        Keanu Reeves in _My Own Private Idaho_
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From: bl375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian G. Greenberg)
Subject: The Addams Family
Reply-To: bl375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian G. Greenberg)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 18:21:08 GMT


Does anyone have the exact quote of Wednesay talking to the girl scout
scene?  I need exact because I want to use it in one of my sig files and if
it's not exact I'll get flamed for it.
Thanks in advacnce,
-Brian
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From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Subject: Re: Philly in the movies
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:11:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.111918.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

>In article <84725@netnews.upenn.edu>, fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz):
>> In article <1992Jul21.142338.4351@verifone.com> ed_l1@verifone.com writes:

>>>I recall entering a contest.  First prize was a week in Phildalphia.
>>>Second prize was two weeks in Philadelphia.

>> Yet another urban legend that refuses to die.  That was a JOKE
>> made by someone who doesn't like Philadelphia.  Just because
>> some people don't like Philly doesn't mean that everyone does
>> or that everyone should.

>There are quite a few neat Hollywood allusions to Philly out there:

>   The famous W.C.Fields quote: "I'd rather be in Philadelphia"

>   It was also quipped by Bruce Willis in _Die Hard_.

>   John Book is a Philly cop in _Witness_, and the opening of the movie shows
>   some great scenes for 30th Street Station.

>   And my personal favorite:  In _Never Say Never Again_, Barbara Carrara trys
>   to get Sean Connery (as James Bond) to admit she was his "best" ever.  His
>   response:  "There was this girl in Philadelpiha..."


	Don't forget Diane Keaton in _Manhattan_, "I mean, I'm from 
Philadelphia, we believe in God".
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From: spencer@bow.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: Is William Baldwin Alec Baldwin's brother?
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Live Organ Transplants
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:20:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.115334.10391@nuscc.nus.sg>, med50003@nusunix3.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN) writes:
>Yes. So is Stephen Baldwin (He's in Young Riders.) There is a fourth
>brother but I don't know what he does.

Daniel Baldwin, whom I saw in Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man.
Dunno what else he's done, but that's what the Actor's List is for :-)

----------- The opinions expressed in this article are solely mine. -----------
<Insert lame attempt at disclaimer humor>
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"There comes a time in the history of every project when it becomes
necessary to shoot the engineers and start production."

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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: HONEY, I BLEW UP THE KID & Bored the pants off everyone else.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:55:07 GMT
Organization: Loose Affiliation of Millionaires and Billionaires and Baby

jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>
>At least they had the wit and imagination to come up with a title other
>than HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS II.
>
And after that monumental bit of effort, they rested. I was impressed
into duty over the week end to accompany two small (9 & 11) year
olds to view this madcap mixup of melody and mirth. They enjoyed it, although 
one has been known to keep a hermit crab as a pet. As for myself, I
was embarrassed for everyone involved, although I was pleased that
Marcia Strassman looked as lovely as ever.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Older than before.
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From: medic@milton.u.washington.edu (Travis Lauricella)
Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove - last line ???
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:51:21 GMT

dfk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (David F. Keppel) writes:

> Another trivial note: The B-52 that drops the bombs had something inscribed
> on the back of each. Something like "Hi Bob!" or something, dont remember
> off hand.  Does anybody know the significance of this?
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Well, in my film class we came to the conclusion that since the film is 
intended to show how man's preoccupation with sex and gadgetry will lead
to his ultimate destruction (because he doesn't pay attention to the 
important things), the inscription on the backs of the mssiles (phallic
symbols) which read "Hi Bob!" (or someone) and "Dear John" were meant
to indicate the beginning and end of a relationship.  

Whether I buy this or not is a different matter...
From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: HG WELLS MOVIES
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:16:46 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <1992Jul31.080335.19279@maths.tcd.ie>, djohn@maths.tcd.ie
(Derek John) writes:
|>
|>   I wonder if anybody out here has a list of films made out of hgwell's
|>short stories?I have seen afew,Namely: The time machine,the magic shop,
|>The truth about pyecraft and a few others.Can anybody tell me if any more
|>have been made?

    The War of the Worlds?
    The Shape of Things to Come?

  Apologies if you meant strictly short stories, and if these aren't!!
  Also, wasn't the marvellous "Time After Time" (about Jack the Ripper
escaping in a time machine to to 1980s) based on Wells???
     
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From: vexpert.dbai.tuwien!mst@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:16:00 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

>From article <1992Jul22.164904.6835@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, by 
cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen):
> Yikes, did he/it/she/whatever have a sex change operation?!?!?!
> Walter Carlos. Geeeeeesh!!!! Egaad!!!! Oooooooh!

What're you going to do, now?  Burn all his/her albums?  Only touch
them with rubber gloves? Have them exorcised?  Sheesh.

-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MAN TROUBLE = PLAIN TROUBLE
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:40:37 GMT
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

In article <Bryr03.Cq@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> declan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Declan J. Fleming) writes:
>I'm STEAMING!!!  I decided to put down Clancy's "Sum of All Fears" for
>a few hours to catch a new movie starring on of my favorite actors - 
>JACK NICHOLSON!!!  It was a new flic that I'd heard nothing about, but how
>could I go wrong with old Jack?
>
>This movie reeked!  
>
>What the HELL is going on in Hollywood.  There HAVE to be some people with      talent there but we just don't see it any more.

>Wake up HOLLYWOOD!  I'm
>gonna start spending all my money on books and leave your damn multiplexes
>to rot!!!!

For what it's worth, I don't think "Hollywood" would put forward "Man
Trouble" as a shining example of what they try to do.  The film was sneaked
into theaters without being shown to the critics, with minimal publicity
buildup, and with a terrible advance word.  The film was really released
for only a couple of reasons - first, no one wants to piss Jack Nicholson
off by leaving one of his films on the shelf as unreleasable; and, second,
it was far too expensive to simply write off.  The releasing studio
(Fox, I believe) was almost embarrassed to put their logo on the film.
(Which was actually a pickup from a small production company as part of
a multi-picture deal.)

Why did they make it?  "Man Trouble" was regarded as a very promising
script a couple of years ago, and had lots of big-name stars and directors
attached, at one time or another.  The deal finally went through to
re-unite the star, writer, and director of "Five Easy Pieces" (a film that
is thought of a lot more fondly now, I suspect, than it was when released).
Once in a while, though, things just don't work out, and "Man Trouble" is
apparently an example.

Hollywood can, and does, do a lot better than that.  If you choose your
films simply by star, or director, or the poster, however, you may not find
many examples.  It's wise to read some reviews or talk to someone who's
already seen the film, unless you're willing to take your chances.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: ADAM'S RIB (Russian)
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:19:32 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

ADAM'S RIB is a Russian film directed by Vyacheslav
Krishtolovich. It stars Inna Churikova, Svetlana Ryabova,
Masha Golubkina, and Elena Bogdanova. With English
subtitles. Unrated.

ADAM'S RIB follows a few days in the lives of four women in a
small Moscow apartment: the paralyzed grandmother, the
mother who works part-time as a docent in a museum of the
Revolution and who worries full-time, and two daughters,
sired by two very different husbands. The men are peripheral
to their lives, even as much as they affect them in various
ways. Everybody comes together at babushka's birthday party,
where various crises appear to come to the surface, some not
for the first time. When the movie ends, nothing is resolved
except that the three youngest agree that they cannot rely
on anyone or anything (the unspoken exception being each
other). The film ends with a kind of miracle the meaning of
which no one is sure.

Characterizations are the entire raison d'etre for this
film. The four principals are sharply drawn,
three-dimensional characters with whom we feel both
comfortable and familiar. I was especially impressed by Inna
Churikova, the grandmother, who invests her paralysis with
great emotion and strength. The scene between her and
Svetlana Ryabova, her daughter, in which Ryabova first reads
her mother the riot act and then begs forgiveness, is one of
great power, a tour-de-force for both women.

The men include an office womanizer, an ineffectual, weak
law student who aspires to become a thug, the two
ex-husbands -- one a Jew, one an anti-semite -- and a new
beau for the mother, sweet, shy, with unexpected strengths
and compassion. Yet none of them is there when babushka's
bed pan needs changing. The women bicker amongst themselves
in their crowded flat, but they are ones who are there to do
the dirty work for each other, to figure how to make their
menage survive.

This is a small film, but sharply focused, incisively
written and performed. With no budget, no resources, no
filmstock in all likelihood, the film maker and his crew and
cast concentrate on giving us a small gem of insight,
wisdom, and passion.

If you have a chance to see this Russian ADAM'S RIB, do
yourself a great favor and do so, regardless of the cost.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: myths or movies? (evi
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:32:31 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

PR>The fact that it should be a big-budget film, if made, is not necessarily
PR>a problem.  Two of the biggest hits of the summer, "Batman Returns" and
PR>"Lethal Weapon 3", had immense budgets.  There is no sign that the
PR>studios intend to abandon the blockbuster film, though they do plan to

     Of course, "Batman Returns" and "Lethal Weapon 3" were considered
     sure-fire hits by Warner Bros., as they followed in the footsteps of
     some HUGE money-making movies.

     I didn't think the budget for "LW3" was that immense, as it didn't
     have anything in it other than the standard explosions and gun
     battles.  (The exploding buildings were a stroke of good luck on
     the part of the producers, as they managed to convince those cities
     to let them shoot the scheduled demolitions of those buildings.  It
     couldn't have cost THAT much, could it?)

     Or did most of the budget for "LW3" go towards the stars' salaries?
     That would make sense.  After all, look at "Hook."
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:46:57 GMT


Regarding Ed Suranyi's inquiry into favorite musicals,
Stewart M. Clamen writes:

>Also, do Gilbert & Sullivan adaptation count?

I sure hope so!

In my response to Suranyi's post I completely forgot _The
Pirates of Penzance_! Thankfully, this amusing and well-done
filiming of the broadway revival of this classic operetta has
had a rebirth on video, since it was ignored during at the box
office. Kevin Kline has never been funnier (not even in _A Fish
Called Wanda_) and even pretty boy Rex Smith is watachable. The
film is alternately campy and melodramatic in the best Gilbert
and Sullivan tradition. There are too many hilarious moments
and memorable numbers to detail here, so rent it if you've never
seen it, or even if you have for that matter...

"Are you trying to tell me that in order to save his contemptable
life, he dared to play on our credulous simplicity?!?!?!"

"When you say "awfun", do you mean "awfun" a person who has lost
his parents, or "awfun" frequently?"

			---The Pirate King, _Pirates of Penzance_

Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
-- 
"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli