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From: c9a-az@po.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto)
Subject: Re: House Closing
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:51:19 GMT

In article <ostubble.715531843@uclagsm> ostubble@agsm.ucla.edu (Otha Stubblefield III) writes:
>Could that have been Anaheim Lanes?  I know it closed in 1990, before
>they opened the Concourse of Anaheim (off the 91 at Tustin).  It's
>

That sounds right, Anaheim Lanes -- old-looking center, wasn't it?

I've always wanted to stop in at the latest Concourse...it does 
look neat when you can see right into the side of the house while 
driving along the freeway there.  But, it seems like I'm only out 
there after a day at either Anaheim Lake or the Santa Ana River 
Lakes.  With an ice chest of fish, the last place I want to go to 
is a bowling center -- unless, of course, there's someone there 
who wants to buy some trout and/or catfish!
From: mafu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Where did this ball come from? (was Re: BUD II's roots...)
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:36:31 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep2.192917.27549@worldbank.org> aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org> writes:
>
>Also on another note...I bet most people don't know that almost all
>(if not ALL) of AMF's balls are now made by Ebonite?  I found this
>out when I ordered my Sumo from AMF and received it in an Ebonite
>box!  I called up my friend who owns a pro shop and he said it's
>true.  AMF contracts out their manufacturing to Ebonite.  I assume they
>still do their own research though...

I don't think that there's more than 4 or 5 major companies that 
actually manufacture bowling balls -- Ebonite, Columbia, Fab,
Brunswick, HSP, ???  Columbia made some of the first Black Rhinos, AMF
Purple Angle and Cobras, most of the Track line, the Roto-Star line,
the latest Nu-Line X-Caliburs...

Did you know (part II)...that the black Hammer wasn't Faball's first ball?
Before the black Hammer, they made an nameless brownish-orange acrylic
ball.  Obviously not a great seller...but definitely a collector's item!
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: House Closings and Oiling Patterns
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C3C3D629012631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:51:50 GMT
Organization: World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:57:52 GMT

In article <pierce-280892102026@skipper.bmbcb.nwu.edu> Dave Dalke,
pierce@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes:
>
>	I recently purcahsed a purple Rhino Pro and I think it is beyond the
>shadow of a doubt the nicest ball I have ever owned.  I watched a couple
of
 
I can't speak for the purple Rhino Pro but I recently purchased the Black
Rhino
Pro and I really like it.  I got rid of my Xcaliber (it sucked) and my
black
Sumo (too unpredictable for me).  It rolls true, is very consistant and
hits
the pocket like a tank.  If the purple Rhino is as good, maybe I'll pick
one of
them up also.

As for the shoes, it's a common problem with synthetic lanes.  I might
suggest
that if you bowl regulary in synthetic houses, purchasing another pair of
shoes
and use some true slide (it works for me) but for gods sake don't put
anything
on the lanes to make your approach better!

-aki
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: c9a-az@po.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto)
Subject: Re: Reconditioning urethane balls
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:10:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.160635.13776@hspice.portal.com> gregw@.hspice.portal.com (Greg Widdicombe) writes:
>Is there a "standard" method to dull a urethane ball after
>it becomes shiny (assuming it isn't supposed to be shiny :-).
>I have a Blue Angle in my garage that has about 400 games on
>it, and I would like to use it as a slightly harder ball than
>my "suck the lane dry" Turbo.  At first I thought, "Hmmm ...
>sand it."  So I hit it with some 220 grit wet-and-dry, but it
>
>Is there a "proper" way to do this?  [Especially one that requires
>power tools Argh Argh Argh]

Yep, argh, argh! %^)  But wait! -- You say you want to "dull" the
ball, but you want to use it as a "harder" ball?  Assuming these
cases:
	1. sand the ball to make it hook; or
	2. "sand" the ball to make it go straight

The procedure is basically the same -- get (or get access to) a ball
spinner.  All pro shops have 'em, or you can buy one (~$300.00 for a
Jayhawk, more for a Hercules).  To resurface a ball to a desired
finish, get some 120 wet-dry or sanding screen.  I'll give you my
method; others will have different methods.  Put the ball in the cup
so that the grip centerline is vertical and the centerspan is on the
edge of the cup. Sand the top half of the ball evenly until most of
the track is sanded out, then turn the ball over and repeat.  From
here, there's two ways to go:

 -- For hook, you may want to stop here; a 120-grit surface will get
    maximum early reaction! :) But most people find this a little too
    excessive, so work up to around 240-320, use a lot of water, and
    follow the 120-grit sand lines.  This leaves sand lines relatively
    perpendicular to your track, which acts like tread on tires. This
    should give you the most hook with the least amount of sanding.

 -- For skid, I follow something like 120-180-240(220)-320-400-(500)-600
    -(1000)-(2000 for a mirror finish) grits in _resurfacing_ a ball.
    This varies depending on the actual condition of the ball.  I like
    to turn the ball 45 degrees after each sanding level.  Stop when
    the surface is to your liking -- a good 600 surface is quite
    smooth and almost shiny -- or continue to a mirror finish with
    rubbing-polishing-then-glazing compounds, or find a *good* Lustre-
    King (not the easiest thing in the bowling world to do!).

It does take some time, but if you can do it yourself, you can save
the $25-30 charged for resurfacing.  I notice most pro shop operators
hate sanding/resurfacing balls, because it's messy and time-consuming.

Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: Wax
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 25 AUG 92 11:39:02 EST


re: (Gordon Brebner) 
>A friend of mine is an avid buyer of dart-related items, in an ineffective
>attempt to improve his game.  Some time ago, he invested in "dart wax" but,
>after bringing the stuff along every time we have played recently, he now
>confesses that he's not sure exactly where to put this wax (and it didn't
>come with any instructions).
>Can anyone help, by revealing (a) where to put it and (b) what it does?

Gordon,

	Try the wax on your fingers.  :-)  
	Just fondle it a few times, especially in-between turns on the oche.
	What color is it? by any chance red?

	Tell your friend, the only attempt at improving his game is to invest
	some more time in getting a consistent, repeatable set-up, grip,
	arm movement and follow-through. plus a lot of concentration. It's
	easy to shoot darts. It's very difficult to shoot well.....and win
	against competition, pressure and your own foibles. 

	But, I'm sure I'd be glad to help your friend out, providing he
	supply the beers.   :^)

-gabe
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: rogerc@ssd.intel.com (Roger Christal)
Subject: Re: Newcomer, Form query.
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:39:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.142956.11662@ryn.mro4.dec.com> tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang) writes:

>	It's funny how visualizing and mentally repeating 
>	to oneself what you want to do can work miracles.

Stated another way, if you BELIEVE you will hit it, you will.
Self-confidence goes a long way in darts.

> Focusing on a pinpoint spot, not just a general area.

The best advice for a new shooter!  Find the bristle inperfection in
the T20 and throw at it.
-- 

>>=-  Roger Christal  rogerc@techbook.com  rogerc@ssd.intel.com  -=<<
From: ballm@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
Subject: Re: Wax
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:58:16 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <42228@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, gordon@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Gordon Brebner) writes:
> A friend of mine is an avid buyer of dart-related items, in an ineffective
> attempt to improve his game.  Some time ago, he invested in "dart wax" but,
> after bringing the stuff along every time we have played recently, he now
> confesses that he's not sure exactly where to put this wax (and it didn't
> come with any instructions).
> 
> Can anyone help, by revealing (a) where to put it and (b) what it does?
> 
> Gordon.

a: It is meant to be put on your throwing fingers.

b: It is meant to prevent the dart from slipping out of your fingers.
   Most people who use it to combat sweaty hands.


mick
From: hirschfb@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
Subject: Newcomer, Form query.
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:47:52 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

Hello, I've been putzing around with darts for a few years, and can never seem
to get anywhere. I know, I know, just keep working at it. Problem is, I can't
seem to find a stance, or grip, or throw in a good combination that works even
slightly consistantly. I try to concentrate on what I'm doing, but nothing
seems to matter. Usually, what happens is, I start getting good groupings, I
just have no idea how to get them to move where I want. What kinds of
techniques do you folks out there use? Or am I destined to be a very mediocre,
and inconsistant player with a nifty dart board nailed to the wall?

Thanks

hirschfb@corral.uwyo.edu

Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: dart supplies
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C93356380B2631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:48:54 GMT
Organization: World Bank
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:55:03 GMT

Just a quick question...anyone know if any dart suppliers
in your area stock the Japanese Rising Sun flights?
None of the suppliers in this area can get them 
although they have _seen_ them at one time or
another. I'll happily pay postage (and a gratuity
of course!@ :-) ), to anyone who can find these
for me.



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Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: Why are the lower numbers mirror-inverted ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 25 AUG 92 11:59:08 EST


re: (Michael Kauschke) 

>Some weeks ago, a friend of mine noticed that the numbers on the lower
>half of his new bought dart-board are mirrored. After we found out that
>allmost all dart-board hanging around here have this attitude, we decided
>to take this problem seriously. So the question :
>Are all these dart-boards just poor german fakes of the original version,
>or is there some heartbreaking tale connected with it ?

mk,
	I'm unclear what you mean by mirror-inverted. Are you talking about 
	the number ring that circles the board? Is this ring movable/removable?
	If so, although I don't understand why it would be mirrored, then
	the movable ring is used so that the board can be rotated when
	various sections/pies of the board become worn out. If, as I am
	trying to understand the scenario, the number is actually printed in
	ink on the face of the board and then the number ring is superimposed
	over the board face, then I would suspect the manufacturer has a
	flawed process/design that needlessly imprinted the numbers. While
	this may cause somewhat of a distraction to some shooters, it should
	not be that much of a concern as long as the board face itself is
	made of good quality materials, bristeles and wired segments.


-anonymous reader


Newsgroups: alt.sport.darts
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.lasertag
Subject: next game
Summary: next game
Keywords: next game
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:31:58 GMT
Distribution: indiana
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


The Purdue lasertag group will play again Saturday night at 8.30 PM in
the Northwestern Av. parking garage at Purdue University.  Meet between
8 and 8.30 behind the Visitors center in that garage.

We use Worlds of Wonder Lazertag (r) as our standard; TOMY/HASBRO
Survivor Shot are compatible but Galoob LazerPro 9000 is NOT.

Anyone is welcome to join in - we need new players due to graduations
and other forms of attrition.....

Duane
wb9omc@harbor.ecn.purdue.edu
From: m_cole@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (M Cole)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
Subject: Re: Crane or Ballon?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:04:14 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England

In article <1992Aug26.143357.16734@col.hp.com> tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke) writes:
>Here in Colorado Springs I paid $75 for a 150' balloon jump. One of 
>the scariest things I ever did!
>
>Wow

Is there a company in England that does jumps from balloons? If so, where 
and how much? 

Thanx


Marc..
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Subject: Re: Crane or Ballon?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:33:57 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Here in Colorado Springs I paid $75 for a 150' balloon jump. One of 
the scariest things I ever did!

Wow
From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
Subject: jump@destin.fla ?
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:52:49 GMT
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello,
 
Has anyone tried the jump at Destin Florida?
 
Randomly, Kelly Cunningham
<deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>  NeXTMail (encouraged)
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
From: ch2m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christopher  Houston)
Subject: Just testing...
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:34:13 GMT
From: ch2m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christopher  Houston)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
Subject: Just testing again....
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:37:05 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

From: ch2m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christopher  Houston)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bungee
Subject: Just testing again...
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Virginia
Keywords: 


Now you know why I'm just testing; things are screwed up and no one
here knows why...

Sorry for any inconvenience...
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer)
Subject: Re: careers & teens
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:11:24 GMT

Back in my idealistic young days I wanted to start a private high school.  My
idea was that during the senior year kids could take apprenticeship jobs that
would qualify them for graduation.  My ideas was things like pages in Congress,
nurses aides, teacher's aides, law firm gophers, etc.  I think it would really
benefit kids to have some real world experience before going off into college.
Of course, I can say that.  See, I'm an English Lit major who is now a 
Computer Scientist.  Among my collegues are Sociology majors, Music majors,
Philosophy majors, etc.  We are all "middle aged".  Sadly now you have to
have a CS degree to get a job in the industry.  But "back then" there were
about 5 jobs for every applicant and companies were willing to train.


-- 
Judy Leedom Tyrer

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"	- William Blake
From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: Re: Need your opinion on Careers for teens
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:14:24 GMT
Organization: Echo Beach

Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:
>
>> While I agree that early high school is too early to choose a career, it's
>> interesting to learn more about relatively obscure occupations.
>> So I'm not trying to persuade anyone to become a medical illustrator, but
>> I would encourage any bright high school student to browse through a
>> directory of occupations just for background information. 

In article <PFuwPB1w164w@glnserv.UUCP> kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon) writes:

>Okay, so where do we find such a book? My daughter is only 9YO, but I am
>also the co-leader of a Girl Scout troop and this sounds like something
>they should all get a chance to look at.

I think a high school guidance counsellor would probably have one.
A state employment office or a Canada Employment Centre might also
have one. Perhaps a guidance counsellor would be interested in talking
with your Girl Scout troop.




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From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: Re: careers & teens
Date: 26 Aug 1992 14:31:09 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.cs.berkeley.edu

RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) writes:
>I guess what I would hope is that a high school student could be encouraged to
>BROADEN rather than NARROW the career possibilities open to her (i.e., sure,
>take college prep classes in H.S., but take music & art & shop & vocational
>classes TOO.)

Yes, I agree.

> WARNING:CONSERVATIVE-OLD-FOGEY-SOUNDING ADVICE AHEAD: I guess I
>also think that its OK for parents to require (matter-of-factly) that their
>teens take some particular courses in H.S.  Compromise, of course, is always
>possible.  For ex: I made it clear that I EXPECTED my daughter to take 4 years
>of math in h.s., and also 4 years of Spanish (she actually has taken 5 years of
>each) just because part of our family values included math literacy and
>bilingualism.

I don't think anyone meant to suggest that a kid should get out of high school
without a good, well-rounded, basic education.  But I don't think that
education should be planned *with a particular career in mind* -- especially
one that's chosen out of the want ads in the newspaper rather than out of
the kid's actual interests and abilities.

I mean, the posting that started this thread asked something along the lines
of "where can I look up what my child can do for a living" and several of us
replied that that's a bad basis on which to plan her high school experience.
Not that parents shouldn't be involved in the kid's life!  Just that their
involvement shouldn't take that particular form.

It's different in college, where a lot of the study *is* related to a specific
career.  (Too much, in my opinion, even in college, especially for people in
engineering majors.)  There you do have to make career-based decisions.  But
surely in high school *everyone* should study math, not just wannabe
scientists, and *everyone* should study English, not just wannabe philosophers.

(On the other hand, if a kid does develop a serious interest in something,
I don't believe that the school's requirements should be allowed to stand
in the way.  The kid should have as much time as necessary for that interest.
I think learning to love learning is more important than exactly what you
learn.  Ideally there's room both for general background and for a particular
concentration.)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: careers & teens
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:30:12 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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Please forgive me if I'm repeating things which have already been said on this
subject;  I'm just back on-net after a nearly-3-week vacation.

I have a slightly different view about the "Follow-Your-Heart's-Desire" school
of thought regarding career selection...

You see, I teach (college) in a field which REGULARLY attracts very bright,
very motivated, very hardworking, very creative students who are following
their hearts' intellectual desires.  Unfortunately, the number of careers
available in philosophy is a teeny-tiny little fraction of the numbers of young
folks who are attracted to it.  In fact, there is a joke from the 70's that 
is still painfully applicable: {Q:What kind of work can one find with a Ph.D.
in philosophy? A: Taxi driver.}

The most heartbreaking thing in my work is having to deal with bright,
young, creative, gifted students standing in my office sobbing that, "There
isn't anything else that I'm qualified to do;  how am I going to earn a
living?" (granted, these are not H.S. aged students, but still...)

I guess what I would hope is that a high school student could be encouraged to
BROADEN rather than NARROW the career possibilities open to her (i.e., sure,
take college prep classes in H.S., but take music & art & shop & vocational
classes TOO.)  WARNING:CONSERVATIVE-OLD-FOGEY-SOUNDING ADVICE AHEAD: I guess I
also think that its OK for parents to require (matter-of-factly) that their
teens take some particular courses in H.S.  Compromise, of course, is always
possible.  For ex: I made it clear that I EXPECTED my daughter to take 4 years
of math in h.s., and also 4 years of Spanish (she actually has taken 5 years of
each) just because part of our family values included math literacy and
bilingualism.  As it turns out, she loves Spanish, doesn't really care for math
very much BUT will have A.P. calculus this year (her sr. year; this was HER
choice) because she realizes the value of math literacy.  I, personally, think
she will graduate better-prepared for WHATEVER she decides to do than she would
have if we had yielded to her 12-year-old protests that such subjects just
weren't INTERESTING to her.  What's more, I think she, herself, is now glad
that we pushed her to take some subjects she might not have taken on her own.
For one thing, many of her best friends are in her a.p. math & science
classes with her, and I think she has found an exposure to PEOPLE SHE LIKES 
whom she would not have met otherwise.

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
From: bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: Re: Need your opinion on Careers for teens
Date: 23 Aug 1992 17:19:09 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anarres.cs.berkeley.edu

kati@glnserv.UUCP (Lady Dragon) writes:
>Also, what's the Net advice on aptitude tests? Are they reccomended or
>not, and why? If so, which ones and how can we get ahold of one?

Snake oil.

The way you know a kid has aptitude for something is that the kid is
*already doing* whatever it is.  Kids write fiction and nonfiction,
kids act, kids program computers...  If you are dealing with a kid
and it isn't obvious from the kid's life what s/he's good at, then
instead of aptitude tests you should start looking for oppportunities
for the kid to start doing things and get interested in something.
(Or figure out what's going wrong in the kid's family to prevent him or
her getting interested in anything.)

imho.
From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
Subject: RE: STUPID TOURISTS
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis) 

-> q
-> Can you please not swear on the network.  There are children reading
-> these messages, and may start using them in terms papers, because one
-> chris mathis is trying to decribe some people in a not so nice way.
-> mike
->
-> I'm so sorry, when did you go back?

What do you mean when did I got back?  Go back where, to being good.
Lord, I have always been good.