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From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Barre)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Phantoms on the wall
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:41:36 GMT
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Barre)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1ja6spINNgvc@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
jshouman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Joan-Marie Shouman) writes:
>Two days ago, one of my darlings began acting strangely: He kept looking at
>this spot on the wall near the ceiling -- for up to 1/2 hour at a time.
>I finally walked over to see what he was looking at and could not find
a thing.
[...]
>Is this typical cat behavior?? 
>-- 
>___________________________________________________    	      
>Joan-Marie Shouman	      |non cogito ergo	   
>(jshouman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) |non sum :)	   
>___________________________________________________ 

There's been stories in this group in the past re. cats spending hours
staring at the walls, floors, etc. Often it turns out to be mice (like
another poster mentioned) or insects, such as termites.

Cats can hear many things that we can't...it gives me the creeps sometimes
to see my two staring intently at "ghosts".

- Lianne - 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Keith Norwood)
Subject: Re: Cats need New Home
Keywords: adoption allergy help
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:12:29 GMT

In article <8244@dove.nist.gov> livigni@bldrdoc.gov (David livigni 303-497-5898) writes:
>
>Hello!
>
>I posted earlier about my problem with my cats and fiance.  Things got much
>worse this weekend when I tried to convince her to try and live with them.
>I showed her a big hardcopy of the responses I got from this group, and
>she exploded and left me.  I sucked up and patched it back together again
>(probably another mistake) but now she really hates them and I think she
>is a selfish cold-hearted bitch.  But I love her anyway.
>So I need to find a good home for my beloved pets.  I will be
>happy to transport them a reasonable distance out of the Denver area.

Normally, I don't give opinions on matters of the heart but she sounds like
bitch to me(and you agree).  I'd keep my cats and give her a choice:  
learn to tolerate the cats or take a walk.  It's not really the cats 
but the principle of the matter.   

It can be very hard married to a bitch.  Even harder if you love her.

Keith
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton)
Subject: Re: REVENGE
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:24:19 GMT

Steve MUST get fed when he wants to get fed in the morning.  This means
no letting mom sleep in past noon.  I recall once, absolutely shutting
him out of my bedroom when he started bugging me for food at 7 a.m. so 
that I could get some sleep.  I think I had the flu or some such ailment
so I was drugged on NyQuil and absolutely HAD to sleep.  I woke up around
noon, and immediately went to feed him.  

I laid back down on my bed and watched him eat in a dazed drugged stupor.
He finished his food and looked straight at me.  Then he went over to one
of my favorite sweaters on the floor and promptly peed ALL over it.

And yes, he STILL comes before all the men in my life.  Can you believe it?

Cat
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From: dionne@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Dionne E Nelson)
Subject: Re: Macintosh Kitty Litter
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:46:36 GMT

In article <MfLlrBS00WBLI653EH@andrew.cmu.edu> Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>I FTPed and got the file and got into ResEdit but I can't copy it to the
>finder.  Can anyone help?  I copied it to a Copy of Finder (as the
>ReadMe said) but after I get out of ResEdit, I don't get the Kitty
>Litter - I still have my old trash can.
>
>I'd appreciate any help - I want my Litter Box!!
>
>thanks
>
>Liz Fox
You are probably still using the old Finder.  Create a new system disk (copy
every thing on the old one to the new one).  Copy the "Copy of Finderr" onto
the NEW disk.  Rename it Finder (it needs to be in the System folder of course)
Restart the machine with the new disk.  

Sorry if that was overly symplified, I'm used to explaining Macs to people who
don't want to know and are so blocked about it that they couldn't understand 
if they wanted to.


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller)
Subject: Jealous little guy
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:40:09 GMT

  The ruler of the apartment, Woody, has been acting differently lately.
I got him from the Humane Society when he was 5 mos. old (he's 5 yrs now).
I haven't dated anybody that would be around alot since i got him. That has
changed recently. He doesn't seem to like it. He watches us all of the time.
He'll sit on the floor 5 feet away and stare at us. When she stays over,
he gets between us at night. When she isn't around, he talks to me more
than usual. He has always been right on my heel, but now he accompanies 
it with a little vocalization. I think he is just a tad bit jealous.
Will this go away with time (she has been around him for 2 months). Do i 
need to "include" him more when she is over ? Will this just work itself 
out ? 

  He knows what is going on. I think he views himself as my protector. This
last weekend, my roommate was looking at pictures on his bed. Renee' went
in to look at some of the pictures. I wasn't in the room with her. Woody
wouldn't go in the room. He stood outside of the room and meowed. One time
he started to walk in, then turned and ran out. He didn't settle down until
Renee' was back by me again. 

  Anybody have suggestions or similar incidents ??

Dave Fuller
dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: klf@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (karen.l.fenton)
Subject: Re: Cat eats $5000 during night
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:59:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.175151.19502@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov>, julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
> In article <1993Jan19.153218.35810@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> mas5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELLE A. M. SZENA) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan18.152919.25375@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov>, julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.go
> 
> Anyway, I agree that the cat, dog, racoon, or whatever ate the fish
> should not be blamed.  The blame lies on the people who failed to 
> secure the fish pond.  
> 
> But, just a minor nit from a fish (and cat) fanatic.  Many people
> keep fish not just to beautify ponds.  Instead, they have ponds
> so they have someplace to put their pets.  (Koi are nice, you
> can pet them.)  Of course, responsible fish owners make sure
> the fish can't get out and other animals can't get in.
> 
Actually, since nature made fish and ponds to go together, I see
nothing odd or incorrect about mixing the two.  :-)
Raising fish in a pond is a wonderful way to keep them
healthy and improve your little corner of the universe
at the same time. there are probably all kinds of ecological benefits
as well.

One dilemma with Koi is their "friendliness". My daughter
raises them: they really are sociable and fun.
They come to you and allow you to "pet" them, and they like to
nibble at your fingers. My daughter's cat (Loft) like
to dibble his rotten little paw in the water, allowing the koi
to nibble while he watches in fascination.
He never makes a move on them and I don't think he will.
Anyway, they're currently in a tank (A BIG tank) and so he's
always supervised.  He can't "visit" without help,
so someone is always there with one hand ready to yank that
paw out of the way. We've discussed how we'll protect
these 'Lotus-land' dumb fish from other feline visitors
when we construct the inevitable pond.

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: draper@gnd1.wtp.gtefsd.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: Re: getting catpee out of down comforter, a possible help
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  world
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:24:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.232130.22682@math.ucla.edu>, ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes...
>Cat peed on your down comforter, eh?  One thing that might help (no

Use one cup of white vinegar with your laundry detergent.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Separating Cats
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:15:17 GMT

Cindy Tittle Moore writes:
> experience in having to split up a multi-cat
> household due to a separation or divorce?

I've known a few cases.  Seems to be the custody of the nineties.
Not that they fight over it.  They seem to be more adult here
than with respect to custody of kids.  Go figure.

> If so, what advice can you give regarding the needs each cat will
> have, when one cat goes with each person?

Usually each cat will need more attention.  Clearly some cats take it
harder than others.  I know one case where it was reported that
neither cat appeared to notice the other one was gone.  In other cases
it appeared to stress the cat considerably.  It's the same as if one
cat dies, the other one is just gone.  So the care called for is also
similar, give lots of attention, watch for weight and behavior change,
consider getting another cat.

-- Jon
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Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Why breed cats? (was: choose him or your cats?)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 19:05:13 GMT


I've never been to a cat show, but my mom breeds Siamese cats.
Her younger (breeding) cats have the more "Asian" look, and
I think they look beautiful.  However, as I haven't been to
a show I don't know if this is common -- I can see that it
could be taken to an extreme.  Hers look elegant but not
weird, but I don't like the smushed face Persian look so 
I assume that Siamese could be warped in a similar way.

Why do some people insist on enhancing traits that make
animals unhealthy?  


Jamie

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               Meggin -- 8 month old Australian Shepherd X
               Harry  -- 4 month old Border Collie X

     felines:  Kieri  -- 5 1/2 yr old lilac point Siamese
               Zak    -- 5 1/2 yr old blue point Siamese
               Duke   -- 1 yr old seal point Siamese
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: farland@outland.b24a.ingr.com (Theresa McFarland)
Subject: Re: ATTIC DANGERS
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:43:30 GMT

In article <107730@bu.edu> reyes@buphyd.bu.edu (Jinara Reyes) writes:
>
>>out that my hubby had been up in the attic and left the cats up
>>there (with the door open).  What seemed to have happened was that poor "Spinn"
>>had fallen through a wall up there.  We located him one story down from the
>>attic.  Once we stared to talk to him he started to meow furiously.
>
>Sounds familar--- My cat was up in the attic and got trapped behind some
>pipes-- She crawled into a small space between the wall and bathroom pipes 
>and could not get out-- We had to make a nice 10" hole in the bedroom 

Yup, Sounds really familiar.  The Triangle fraternity cat got up into a hole
in the attic.  They had to get some really strong smelling tuna to get the
cat to work it's way out... The guys thought their alternative would be to 
poke holes in the ceiling ...  well they were college students.

The tuna did bring the cat to the opening he crawled into.  He was 
a bit dusty but otherwise fine.
From: reyes@buphyd.bu.edu (Jinara Reyes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Show Info Request- Boston, MA
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:47:31 GMT
Organization: Information Technology, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

When and where is the Boston Cat show???? 

Any info would be greatly appreciated!



         Jinara Reyes     Boston University Physics 
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From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help me name my cat 
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:16:58 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <727731102snz@granta.demon.co.uk>, malwen@granta.demon.co.uk (Sheila Thomas) writes:
> When selecting a name for my cat I considered not only what 
> suited her but imagined myself standing in the garden yelling for her 
> to come in for the night. That ruled out quite a few options!
> I settled on Josephine - elegant enough for a beautiful,
> fluffy black and white darling with Jo short enough to shout
> without feeling daft.

Well, there are advantages to cat names that are attract attention
when hollered.  EVERYONE remembers DumDum, and a number of male
friends have joshed me about, "I thought you were calling me" 
when I'm hollering "DumDum, come here!" out the door... 8-)

Kay
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Looking for James Herriot  8)
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:02:44 GMT

Hi People!

I am trying to locate the address of  James Herriot ...
the author of animal books such as 

"Vets might fly", "Its shouldn't happen to a vet",
"The Lord God made them all", ...

All I know that he is in Yorkshire in UK ...
I will be going to UK this May, 
so thinking of getting his autograph  ... 8)


george

Internet:   isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: choose him or your cats??????
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:58:12 GMT

In article <C1J1Hs.1q1@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
>   I'm new to this group, so I don't know if this is a Never-
>   ending Topic, but I'd like to take issue with the dog-people/
>   cat-people dichotomy.
>   Personally I like cats *and* dogs (and horses, and etc).  I
>   don't currently have a dog because my schedule is too hectic
>   and dogs require more maintainance 


Oh, I think you'll find that most people here like most animals but
*prefer* cats (rather than *only* liking cats, to the exclusion of all
other animals).  I've had dogs (I had two german shepherd "brothers"
when I was a kid :-), parrakeets, turtles, and fish ... but cats are
my preferred companions.  The ease of care is important (it's nice to
have an animal with an inside bathroom), but for me there's more to it
than that.  For one thing, dogs don't purr.  For another, you have to
follow them around outside with a scoop if you want your neighbors to
be friendly.  It is mostly that second reason that keeps me from
getting one, although I'm still occasionally turned to mush by the
sight of a german shepherd's intelligent and sensitive face ...

--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Need info on tapeworms
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:06:04 GMT

I've just adopted a six month old female, and found out earlier today she
has tapeworms (you know how ;).  Anyway, I understand she needs veterinary
care, but how is this affecting her in the meantime?  It may be a few days
before I can take her in, and I want to be sure she's not suffering any
permanent damage to her digestive system.  Please email, I'll summarize.
Thanks in advance...

-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Marie Cannizzaro <c14383@mot.corp>
Subject: Re: Cats on Counter Tops: the originator
Organization: Motorola, Inc. International Group
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:12:17 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Well, I never knew that my simple question would arose so many people to
respond with their own unique view points. Now that Ihope we have gotten
this whole thing out of our system, I would like to thank everyone who
has tried to convince me to keep my cat on and off the counters. I have
decided to keep her off. Now that that's settled, can we all just get
along?  Marie & Sam
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME)
Subject: Re: DECLAWING?
Reply-To: evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME)
Organization: Digital Equipment Service Industries Solutions Company Ltd
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:41:32 GMT


In article <nlp-200193174548@192.156.173.150>, nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com
(Nancy Pilsch) writes:
>BTW, the british vets WILL NOT declaw a cat.  They even consider having a
>strictly indoor cat cruel.  

  The first sentence is true, the second one depends upon your vet.
We've never had any indication that our's thinks that is so, while they
_have_ seen a number of cats killed as a result of the local traffic, 
including one of our own.

Gwyn
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats

There's an "ant catcher" substance called "Stickyfoot".  It's a gooey tube
of non-toxic chemical that you could paint around the circumference of
your cat's food bowl.
From: marie@ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: SPAYED CAT IN HEAT!!!
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:08:52 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: marie@ai.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: guppy.ai.mit.edu

Yes, this can happen--it happened to Domino.  When I picked her
up the first time, the vet told me that they couldn't find one
of her ovaries, and that it might develop later on, so they
warned me that she might go into heat again.  She did, and I
had to take her back so they could remove the ovary, about 2-3
months later.  

Definitely talk to your vet about this.  Or if you suspect the
vet didn't do a proper job the first time, go see a different
vet.

Good luck,
Marie
From: prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: ants in the catfood
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:11:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <25JAN199314291861@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov>, piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch) writes...
>I came home yesterday to the sight of ants swarming around the catfood
>dish (and assorted bits of food on the floor.)  Any ideas how to eliminate
>the ants without poisoning the cats too?

You have ants at this time of year?  How did you manage that - I thought 
all the little creepy crawlys were frozen by now!  I'd try to see where 
they are coming in first and put the spray or whatever at or before the 
source.  For instance, we had them coming into the house though a pantry 
that has holes where the washer plumbing comes in so we sprayed those holes 
and pipes and kept the pantry closed.  I'd suggest the enclosed ant traps 
but know from experience that the average kitty thinks they're hockey pucks
Good Luck!


            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*

			
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From: cicarell@spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell)
Subject: re: fiancee troubles
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:09:43 GMT

David,  I couldn't agree more with Sallie.  I'm just glad that I'm not in 
your situation, talk about a rock and a hard place.  

Have you tried any nursing homes, etc...  I have heard about the programs
where pets are used in therapy with very good results, and the cats they've
shown on the news seem happy enough.  Also, if it's close, maybe you can
visit them occasionally.

Best of luck, my heart goes out to you,
Colleen Cicarelli
From: christie@porgy.dfci.harvard.edu (Linda A. Christie)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: looking for a kitten
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:43:09 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: porgy.dfci.harvard.edu


If anyone has kittens they are trying to find a home for,
I know someone who would like to have one!  (Boston area).

Short hair preferred.

send mail to christie@jimmy.harvard.edu

Thanks!!
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From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (   Wilde Dame)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: ATTIC DANGERS
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:59:53 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

I think I may have told this story before, but we're on the subject of
attics and heating vents and the like... I got Clio from a friend of mine
at school, and picked her up from his dorm room on a Sunday evening before
heading to a study group for my quantum physics class.  We were studying
in a study room on the top floor of the dorm, and decided Clio would be
fine running around in the big, open, empty room.  Halfway through our
review of the Schrodinger thought experiment (yes, the cat one, and no, I
am not making this up), we realized Clio was missing... turns out this big
empty room had big empty heating ducts which connected it with five other
big empty rooms and twenty dorm rooms on that side of the building. 
Luckily, she had only ventured as far as the next study room, where some
very confused science students were eyeing her warily.  We walked in,
thanked them for watching her, and returned to Schrodinger...
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  & Hemingway & Clio    |    bad unhappily.  That is what fiction means."
sstover@seattleu.edu    |    -Oscar Wilde, _The Importance of Being Earnest_
From: mario@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Mario Arias)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:15:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Dog sensed earthquake, cats too.
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats



A week or so ago there was a 5.1 in the S.F. bay area.  May 5 month old 
siamese was oblivious to it.

-Mario