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From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Fussball-Bundesliga, 6.Spieltag
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 10:02:08 +0200
Distribution: world               
Organization: 

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6. Spieltag

Borussia M'Gladbach - Eintracht Frankfurt 3-3
Borussia Dortmund   - Dynamo Dresden      3-0
VfB Stuttgart       - Schalke 04          1-0
1.FC Saarbruecken   - 1.FC K'Lautern      2-0
Wattenscheid 09     - 1.FC Koeln          4-2
Bayern Muenchen     - Hamburger SV        4-0
Bayer Leverkusen    - Karlsruher SC       5-1
1.FC Nuernberg      - VfL Bochum          2-1
Werder Bremen       - Bayer Uerdingen     2-1


Tabelle

Platz  Mannschaft           Spiele  Tore  Punkte

 1.    Bayern Muenchen        5     14-2   10-0
 2.    Bayer Leverkusen       6     12-3    9-3
 3.    Eintracht Frankfurt    5     11-6    8-2
 4.    VfB Stuttgart          6      7-6    8-4
 5.    Borussia Dortmund      6      9-8    7-5
 6.    Werder Bremen          6      8-8    7-5
 7.    Dynamo Dresden         6      8-9    6-6
 8.    1.FC Saarbruecken      6      7-9    6-6
 9.    1.FC Nuernberg         6      4-6    6-6
10.    Schalke 04             6      9-8    5-7
11.    VfL Bochum             6      9-8    5-7
12.    1.FC K'Lautern         6      5-5    5-7
13.    Wattenscheid 09        6     12-14   5-7
14.    Karlsruher SC          6     12-14   5-7
15.    Borussia M'Gladbach    6      8-13   5-7
16.    Bayer Uerdingen        6      7-9    4-8
17.    Hamburger SV           6      4-9    4-8
18.    1.FC Koeln             6      5-14   1-11



----
Kai Voigt, Werftstrasse 2, 2300 Kiel 14, Germany, +49 431 7297514
                  I'm too sexy for this .sig
From: mrbulli@btoy1.UUCP (Thomas Bullinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Strafverfolgung (war:
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:23:22 GMT
Organization: Private UNIX system
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.german ]
[ Author was Carl Camurca ]
[ Posted on 8 Sep 92 20:01:00 GMT ]

MS>In <1992Sep8.154432.24494@nntp.nta.no> schreibt Stoer Mechthild FNT:

MS>>> Ulf Andrick schreibt in <1992Sep4.211452.8070@rhrk.uni-kl.de>:
MS>>>
MS>>> |> Die Rechtsstaatlichkeit gebietet, dasz niemand ohne Urteil ins
MS>>> |> Gefaengnis gesteckt wird. Dasz jemand freigelassen wird, schlieszt
MS>>> |> doch nicht aus, dasz er spaeter zu einer Freiheitsstrafe verurteilt
MS>>> |> wird und sitzen musz.
MS>>> |>
MS>>> |> Nur bei Flucht- oder Verdunkelungsgefahr darf ein Verdaechtiger
MS>>> |> in Haft gehalten werden; ...
MS>> ...
MS>> wenn aber diese Leute Abend fuer Abend auf Randale sind,
MS>> sollte man sie trotzdem sofort festnehmen und vor Gericht stellen koennen.

MS>Selbstverstaendlich. Die kommentierte Nachricht von Ulf Andrick ist inso-
MS>weit auch unzutreffend. Gemaess . 112 Abs.1 StPO darf "die Untersuchungs-
MS>haft gegen den Beschuldigten angeordnet werden, wenn er der Tat dringend
MS>verdaechtig ist und ein Haftgrund besteht". Wohlgemerkt: Eines Urteils
MS>bedarf es dazu nicht, sondern nur eines richterlichen Haftbefehls (. 114
MS>StPO).

MS>Es ist auch nicht richtig, dass als Haftgruende allein Flucht- und Ver-dunke
MS>sgefahr in Betracht kommen. Wiederholungsgefahr tut's auch.

Bloss, warum tut's dann keiner bei den Rechtsradikalen? Das passiert
immer nur bei linksgerichteten Demonstrationen.

VERDAMMT NOCH MAL, WARUM WIRD DAS VOLLE RECHTSSTAATSINSTRUMENTARIUM
NIEMALS IN VOLLER HAERTE GEGEN DIE NEONAZIS ANGEWENDET???

WOZU IST DER VERFASSUNGSSCHUTZ DA???

leicht rauchend, Carl.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Stupidity is NOT a handicap!  PARK ELSEWHERE!
                                                                                    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.australian
From: s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA)
Subject: Re: German-Australian Dual Citizenship
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:53:38 GMT

In article <Bu7Fr3.Ip0@alsvid.une.edu.au> dmiller@elli.une.edu.au writes:
|
|A good friend of mine, a German national, wants to know if Dual
|Citizenship is now possible with Australia.  He has heard rumours
|of policies being relaxed given the EC trend.  Does anyone know
|if it is possible?  (Antwort im Deutsche Sprache ist okay.)
|

From Australia's point of view, dual citizenship is not a problem.
So, in this case, it is really up to Germany whether the applicant
is allowed to keep the German citizenship after he is granted Aust.
citizenship.

--
 _________Josef Widjaja____________  
|  s8923098@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au  |
|  Macquarie University, Australia | 
|__________________________________| 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: nico@athena.mit.edu (Nicolas Reinecke)
Subject: Re: Kein Anschluss unter diese Nummer
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 14:43:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep01.202212.13440@sco.com>, jimmo@sco.COM (James Mohr) writes:
|> 
|> Erstens moechte mich bei allem enstschuligen. Ich war zum Herrn Boehm
|> ein Bisschen hart aber es geht mir wirklich auf die Nerve wenn
|> Leute Zahlen benutzen ohne zu wissen was diese Zahlen 'wirklich'
|> bedeuten. Auch dazu ist es mir peinlich, dasz es eben 10% ist. Ich
|> bin auch der Meinung dass es zu hoch ist.
|> 

[...]


Hallo James,

nun, wenn du dich so darueber aufregst, wenn Leute Zahlen benutzen, und diese
entweder aus dem Zusammenhang reissen oder aber falsch benutzen, dann huete dich
doch davor, es ihnen nachzutun.

Es stimmt, dass mit Sicherheit mehr Amerikaner die High-School abschliessen, als
Deutsche (oder Italiener, Franzoser, etc, pp). Allerdings weist du selber ganz
genau, mit welchem Kursangebot das passiert. Wenn jemand in den USA mit
vocational courses wie homemaking oder cooking seinen High-Schol Abschluss
bekommt, dann kann es doch wohl kaum dein Ernst sein, dies mit der Realschule
vergleichen zu wollen. Das Problem ist, in Deutschland ist das Schulsystem sehr
differenziert. Jeder muss 12 Jahre Schule absolvieren. Ok, wenn man halt eine
Ausbildung macht, dann ist es halt die Berufshochschule oder so, aber das ist mit
einigen Kursen, die ich an High-Schools gesehen habe, durchaus vergleichbar. Das
gleiche Spiel laesst sich auch auf Universitaetsebene weitertreiben.

Ich glaube, wir sind alle sehr darum bemueht, nicht als die Deppen darzustehen,
wenn es um unsere Ausbildung geht. Is ja auch mehr als verstaendlich, denn
immerhin haben wir zu dem Zeitpunkt, als wir im unserem System die Schule besucht
haben, nicht viel zur Veraenderung beitragen koennen. Warum einigen wir uns denn
eigentlich nicht darauf, einmal die Bewertung wegzulassen. Die Tatsache, das doch
etliche Deutsche hier in den USA landen, oder etliche Amerikaner in Europa, zeigt
doch, dass die verschiedenen Systeme doch Vor- und/oder Nachteile haben. Was
haelst du von der unverfaenglichen Floskel, "They are different!" ?

Nico
Xref: sparky soc.culture.german:6493 soc.roots:6129
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 16:37:31 EDT
From: <34MFM2M@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.roots
Subject: Re: Nickname question.

I also have an uncle called "Mutz" or "Mutzi."  His real name is
Matthias.  I found out from German-speaking relatives that the German
nickname for Mathias is "Matts," sometimes pronounced like "Mutz."

Susan Clarkson
34mfm2m@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Biologische Schaedlingsbe
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:43:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

AY>From: An-Ly Yao <anlyyao@igc.apc.org>
AY>Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
AY>Date: 07 Sep 92 09:27 PDT
AY>Subject: Biologische Schaedlingsbekaempfung
AY>Message-ID: <1473000038@igc.apc.org>

AY>I am from Taiwan and an US educated Entomologist with professional experienc
AY>in biological pest control (USA, Taiwan) and in some other parts of the bug
AY>business. In Germany I probably first will learn some German language and th
AY>try to get back to research - if possible.

AY>Are there any foreigners on soc.culture.ge who have enough experience with
AY>"academic.culture.ge" and the German way, to tell me, how that could be
AY>managed? My main objective is to stick to science and to prepare myself to
AY>work again in China (perhaps somewhere between Taipei and - yes - Shanghai)
AY>later.

As far as I see it, the chances are pretty good for you in Germany.
_Biological_ pest control is a big deal here, and you should be able to
find a group to work in/with. If you have access to the MEDLINE, you
could use the key words Munich and entomology to find the addresses of
some groups. Then you can get in touch with them directly.
The "academic.culture.ge" is pretty much the same as everywhere in the
world. In comparison to the US, the Germans tend to be a little more
formal, but nothing serious. You can use English very well as the
language in the lab, as every German working there will speak it.
Although you _could_ get along with English outside the lab, I would
strongly suggest to pick up a little German. This will be greatly
appreciated.

AY>An-Ly Yao-Kluge
AY>Seoul, 1992/08/08
AY>Korea

If you have more questions, feel free to ask.

greetinx, Carl.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Subject: Re: Waigels Haushaltsentwurf
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:20:48 GMT

In <1992Sep12.070720.25969@nadia.stgt.sub.org> br@nadia.stgt.sub.org (Bernd Rosenau) writes:

>In article <psima01.716051273@convex> psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack) writes:
>>...umfasst 435 Mrd. DM fuer 1993.
>>
>>Dafuer entfallen 100 fuer Arbeit und Soziales,
>>58 fuer die Bezahlung von Schulden und Zinsen,
>>auf Platz 3 folgt Verteidigung mit 50.8
>>
>>die Neuverschuldung soll um 2.5 Mrd auf 38 sinken.
>>
>>quelle: stuttgarter ztg.
>>
>>michael

>Hmmm, da muessen eigentlich auch die vielen Nebenhaushaltte genannt sein,
>ich bin sicher, naechstes Jahr werden sicher wieder mehr als 150 Mrd.
>DM nach Ostdeutschland fliessen und die sind ja fast alle in
>den Nebenhaushalten versteckt, dann kommt das mit 38 Mrd Neuverschuldung
>garantiert nicht mehr hin...weiss jemand mehr ueber die Nebenhaushalte
>(Fonds deutsche Einheit usw... ) ???

>Gruss , Bernd.a

laut Radio soll der Trnsfer ostwaerts 162 Mrd. Mark
betragen

wo zum Teufel ist auf ner franz. Tastatur das Escape?
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: re:Annexation
Date: 12 Sep 92 07:35:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

TA>   Could you tell me then, what is left from the achievements (yes, there
TA>   where some) of the GDR society?

TA>I see - wasn't this called "But Hitler built the motorways" some time
TA>ago?

Now I go on shaky ground. They still were motorways. Germany is
benefitting from its famous "Autobahn" to this day.
Would you close them, because they were a Nazi invention? As far as I
recall, there were not build with blood.
Moreover, comparing the totalitarian GDR Regime with the Nazis is a bit
strong, isn't it?
Again, there were social achievements. Where are they?

TA>Thorsten Altenkirch             LFCS, Edinburgh

greetinx, Carl

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: stoer@hal.nta.no (Stoer Mechthild FNT)
Subject: Re: Violence update 10.09.92
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 12:28:05 GMT

Anybody becoming indignant about the 5-person family
evicted from a cheap 7-room house,
living in a 4-room apartment in a homeless shelter,
and told to give up the fourth room to two foreigners,

should also ask himself,
whether his 5-person family is willing to share one room
of his expensive 4-room apartment with some asylants?

Mechthild Stoer
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:29:30 EDT
From: <AXD2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Jeremy B, where are you?

Jeremy Bierbach, please send me your e-mail address. Thanks.
A. Dollins
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.australian
From: peta@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Peter Whaite)
Subject: Re: German-Australian Dual Citizenship
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 02:40:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.235338.689@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au> s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA) writes:
>In article <Bu7Fr3.Ip0@alsvid.une.edu.au> dmiller@elli.une.edu.au writes:
>|
>|A good friend of mine, a German national, wants to know if Dual
>|Citizenship is now possible with Australia.  He has heard rumours
>|of policies being relaxed given the EC trend.  Does anyone know
>|if it is possible?  (Antwort im Deutsche Sprache ist okay.)
>|
>
>From Australia's point of view, dual citizenship is not a problem.
>So, in this case, it is really up to Germany whether the applicant
>is allowed to keep the German citizenship after he is granted Aust.
>citizenship.

Yeah but if I want to take up Canadian citizenship I have to hand in my
Australian passport.  Whats the rationale behind this double standard. 




Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: wunner@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Guenter Wunner)
Subject: Re: German Reunification
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:40:47 GMT


Schoenen Dank fuer die Erklaerung! Davon hab ich echt noch gar nichts
gehoert gehabt. Das liegt wohl daran, dass ich keinen Fernseher habe.
Langsam versteh ich, was da gespielt wird.
Nichts fuer ungut jedenfalls,
	Lukas.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Stephen P. Guthrie)
Subject: Auslander
Originator: spg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:57:33 GMT

These reports of anti-foreigner violence in Germany in recent weeks are
rather disturbing. I am moving to the Stuttgart area. I look Western
European (blue eyes, etc), but am not fluent with the language. Should
I be concerned?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: net@cs.tu-berlin.de (Oliver Laumann)
Subject: Re: End of summer time?
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:36:41 GMT

In article <sefBoFD0BwwtF1mUoa@transarc.com> Craig_Everhart@transarc.com writes:
> When does the local time change from summer time to standard time in Germany?

According to the information in /usr/lib/zoneinfo/europe (on the UNIX
systems that have it), the change from MET DST back to MET takes place
on the last Sunday in September.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.roots
From: baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier)
Subject: Re: city name translation needed
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:45:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.224141.9613@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
>Anybody know what the former town of Preussisch-Eylau is now called.  Used to
>be East Prussia.  Site of the first battle (1807) in Prussia that Napoleon did
>not win.  He had 600,000 men lined up against Russian and Prussian troops.
>Wound up to be pretty much of a draw. Grandfather Max Louis Robiller was born
>there in 1872 and I need to find whatever I can about him, etc.
In my encyclopedia (sp.?) I found the russian name only in latin letters
(Good luck, I haven't found any russian letters on my keyboard, yet):
Bagratinowsk.

Today it has 4300 inhabitants. I think there must have been serious
accomodation problems during the battle of 1807 :-).

>Grandfather Max Louis Robiller was born ...
It seems that Fred's ancestors were french hugenots who fled from France
to Prussia because of their non-catholic religion. Today one might call
them "Asylanten". It is strange that a lot of Germans who have now ressenti-
ments against refugees are descendants of people who had to leave their
homes because of prosecution.

My mother's family came from the now russian part of East Prussia which is
now called "Oblast Kaliningrad". After the end of the USSR it has become a
russian exclave.

Oh, I forgot to mention I am a hugenot descendant, too. My mother's name
was until her wedding "Matthee" (with an accent d'aigu on the first 'e').
Recently, my uncle found the little town in French Swiss where our ancestors
came from.

Tschuess,
		Joern
-- 
Joern Baier     (baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de) 
Jesuitengasse 9 	   __o
D-W8390 Passau 		 _ \<,_
Tel +49/851/35239 	(_)/ (_)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.polish
From: osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski)
Subject: Re: common Polish-German action (was: Nazi Cam
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 01:02:50 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep2.174037.2417@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>In article <matthew.714794316@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Matthew Zalbiciewski) writes:
>>ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
>
>>>Prejudice against the Jews in Europe is well documented and nowhere
>>>was this worse than in Poland.
>
>>Great one Ted! Can you explain, then, why did so many Jews (a few
>>million) emigrate to Poland between the two World Wars? 
>
>WHAT?  Where did you get this idea?  There was a mass Jewish*emigration*
>from Poland in the last century and the beginning of the current one;
>where did the Jews who supposedly came *to* Poland come from?

There was a mass emigration from Poland (and a few other European
countries for that matter) in the last century and at the beginning of
the current one, caused by poverty and hunger. All ethnic groups
were emigrating, not just Jews. This has nothing to do with
antisemitism.

>Interesting formulation.  You speak as though the Jews of Poland
>weren't Poles, too.  Of course, most Polish Gentiles saw it just 
>that way, and that caused a lot of problems.  It was "their" soil,
>not that of the Jews, and the Jews were "kept" or allowed to stay, 
>not considered compatriots.

Interesting! I share your point of view (i.e. Polish Jews were Poles)
but according to some on s.c.p. it is supposedly offensive for the
Jews of Poland to consider them as Poles.

>>Oh no, how stupid of me to try to spread the blame equally. Geez, I
>>must be a Pole, I never learn. We don't want to spoil with any
>>blemishes the bright, carefully cultivated, image of a tolerant and
>>enlightened Europe.  Let's apportion some more, a lot more, all (?),
>>of the blame to those outside the EC, where, anyway, all these
>>"regrettable incidents" took place. They're all backward, after all,
>>they won't mind. And even if some do, who gives a shit?
>
>Pipe down.  Are you telling us that the people of Poland had *nothing*
>to do with any of this?  Remember that Poland had a widely popular
>pogrom *after* WW II, also.

What would you suggest the Poles could do to stop the Holocaust? Fight?
They tried and failed in September 1939.

That pogrom wasn't widely popular. On the contrary, it was swept under
the carpet and most of young Poles haven't even heard about it until
very recently.

>Roger

Marek Osinski
From: holley@sono.uucp (Greg Holley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Rostock, Berlin, usw.
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:00:31 GMT
	<ZGP6TOW@mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de> <4021@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de>
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

In article <4021@elwood.prz.tu-berlin.de> jost@speedy.prz.tu-berlin.de (Jost Weinmiller) writes:

> In article <ZGP6TOW@mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de> paul@cs.tu-berlin.de writes:
> >mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil) writes:
> >
> >>nun - ich bin hier ja auch schon als rechte
> >>hohlbirne bezeichnet worden (oder fast), nur
> >>weil ich mich nicht unbedingt gewaehlt 
> >> ...
> >
> >Schon mal was von Gross- und Kleinschreibung gehoert?
> >
> >P Boehm
> 
> schon mal davon gehoert, dass das ziemlich unwichtig ist, ob man 
> gross oder Klein schreibt? korinthenkacker. willst wohl mal beamter
> werden.

Es ist doch wichtig, ob man gross oder klein schreibt, wenn man will,
dass der Leser einen leicht versteht.  Genausso wichtig wie
Rechtschreibung. Die meisten Leute lesen Text mit nur Gross- oder
Kleinschreibung oder mit zahllosen Schreibfehlern langsamer und muessen
sich mehr Muehe geben, als wenn sie "richtig" geschriebenen Text lesen.
(Zumindest diejenigen, die waehrend des Lesens ihre Lippen nicht
mitbewegen.)  Nicht, dass jeder Fehler eine grosse Katastrophe oder
Verbrechen ist, sondern dass man sich die Muehe machen soll, zu
versuchen richtig zu schreiben.

(Falls mir jemand antworten will, "Naja, Deutsch ist ja nicht deine
Muttersprache, nur deshalb sind dir solche unbedeutenden Regeln wichtig," 
moechte ich sagen: Ich wuerde genau dasselbe ueber English sagen, auch wenn
ich's ein bisschen besser ausdruecken koennte.)

-- 
Greg Holley     holley@sono.uucp   sun.com!sono!holley   holley@acuson.com

"My tale is so strange that, were it written with needles on the interior
corner of an eye, yet would it prove a lesson to the circumspect."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: popat@image.mit.edu (Kris Popat)
Subject: two-ring binders in US?
Organization: MIT Advanced Television Research Program
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:41:42 GMT


Anybody know where I can get some of those nice Euro-style two-ring
binders in the US?  They are made by Leitz and (no doubt) by some
other companies, and have a little lever that opens and closes the
rings, and a little thingy to clamp down the pages, and slots in the
front cover for the rings to fit through so the covers close flat on
the paper, and a hole in the spine for grabbing them off the shelf.

Thanks,

Kris Popat
MIT Rm E15-391  Cambridge, MA 02139
popat@media-lab.mit.edu
From: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Is it starting again?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:58:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online, St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca) 

[nice, well-tempered speaking deleted]

DCC>My wife and I have been considering moving to
DCC>Germany at some point to futher her operatic career and for me to seek
DCC>further opportunity in computer networks and such.  I have to admit that
DCC>these stories do tend to scare us into a belief the the right wing is
DCC>growing in strength and that this is representative of many Germans.  Your
DCC>comments help to counteract this assumption and to explain the motivations
DCC>behind some of these actions.

I hope, my comments help to open the eyes. If there is 1 in a subway
wagon, who carries a knife, that is one to many to kill somebody because
of the skin color. Well, admittedly, he is a minority. And this happens
these days in Germany. It can't be denied or belittled by whosoever or
whatsoever. It's a fact.

If you or you wife happens to have another skin color than white, I
would strongly recommend to stay away at least from East Germany.

BTW, what do you do to adress the "bigger problems", which had the LA
symptoms in your country?

greetinx, Carl.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * It is easy to be tolerant when you do not care
                    
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