HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hideg@spsd630a.erim.org (Steve Hideg)
Subject: Re: HTs at Disneyland 
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:07:23 GMT

tIn article <727569774snx@skyld.tele.com> jangus@skyld.tele.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes:

>> I went there about 3 years ago. The one time I tried to bring my HT in, the
>> moron at the gate *yelled* at me that I cannot bring a radio into the park.
>
>How did they know you had a radio? They're pretty damn hard to see in a
>fanny pack.

It was sticking out of my pocket. I did not own a fanny pack at the time.

>When did the "moron" start yelling? Immediatly or after you gave him a bunch
>of shit about having an FCC license?

She started yelling at me immediately upon seeing it sticking out of my pocket.
I did not give her "a bunch of shit".

>The whole secret to success with HT's in public places is not acting like
>a dork with the damn things. Of course, if you wish to appear as an Ambulance
>driver, that's your business.

I was not acting like a dork with the damn thing. It was in my pocket.
Hell of an implication on your part.


--Have a day--

_________________________
Steve Hideg  N8HSC

hideg@amadeus.erim.org
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Ham Radio Causes Cancer
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:49:42 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <44051@zygot.ati.com> john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) writes:
>I swear if I hear about one more thing that "causes cancer"...

Talking about what causes cancer causes cancer. :-)
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    "begin 666 foo 266]U(&AA=F4@;F\@;&EF92X: ` end" -- Daniel Drucker
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ag821@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeff Gold)
Subject: Re: mfj swr meter info wanted
Reply-To: ag821@yfn.ysu.edu (Jeff Gold)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:58:31 GMT


In a previous article, fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) says:

>In article <1jpedfINN95i@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>,
>derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) wrote:
>> Does anyone out there have any firsthand info about the MFJ 160-m through  
>> 2-meter swr analyzer with digital freq readout?
>


I have the MFJ analyzer with built in digital freq counter for 
HF (won't do 2 meters). I have used it to build at least 10
antennas and tune my Hustler. I have always loved to fool with
antennas, but hated taking them down, trimming them, running in
the house and then loading them up  and testing again.

I find the MFJ analyzer accurate (enough for what i use it for).
very  easy to use, I find it much better to use than older 
methods of tuning antennas. YOu can turn the freq knob with 
no load on the antenna and see a better picture of what the 
SWR curve looks like on lots of differnt parts of the band. It
also takes a lot of the tedious repetitive steps out of tuning
antennas. I use mine with the batteries in the meter (no external
power) and I am still on my first set of batteries.

Now a word about MFJ. I know how a lot of people feel about 
MFJ and their quality control may not be the best. I own the MFJ
20 meter QRP and love it. I use it mobile, backpacking and now 
have it sitting on my desk and use it more than my big rig.
I liked it so much, I wrote an article on it and some other
related items for Feb . QST.
It has a fairly good receiver and real good filtering.  I had used 
it backpacking and mobile for a few months and left it out
in my car (went down to the teens a few nights). I noticed some
drifting, and the sidetone was acting strange. Isent it back to 
MFJ (cost $5 to have them process). They immediately sent me a
confirmation that they had received it and said it could take
up to 4 weeks. This was right before Christmas. I had it back 
withing a week with details of exactly what they had done. I had
one of the earlier models. It appears as if they updated the
rig to the current model.  They changed a bunch of components
and put on a new top case and bigger speaker and realigned 
everything and got the power output up to 4 1/2 watts.  It is working
perfectly and I am very pleased with the way I was treated.

I also purchased a used 941C antenna tuner and it works fine.


73s De Cookeville,TN 
Jeff, AC4HF
-- 
Jeff M. Gold, AC4HF
Manager, Academic Computing Support
Tennessee Technological University
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mark@ERA.COM (Mark Feit)
Subject: Retuning Commercial Gear
Organization: Engineering Research Associates, Vienna, VA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:13:22 GMT

Has anyone seen books (doubtful) or files in an archive (more
probable) on using commercial gear in the ham bands?

Lately I've been toying with the idea of finding some old commercial
gear to retune and use on the 2m and 70cm bands.  Mostly I'm looking
for handhelds and low-power mobiles (10-20 watts) to have around the
house and in the office.  Bells and whistles aren't necessary; just
something with two or four channels that can be set up to use on
repeaters or for simplex if necessary.  PL encode/decode would be
nice, but isn't a must.

I do know that I'd like to stick with Motorolas, since anyone I've
ever run into with retuned gear has one.  What I _don't_ know is how
all of the different flavors (Micor, etc...) fit into the scheme of
things, what's worth getting, what's worth avoiding and how to obtain
service manuals.  If somebody could fill me in on any part of that
(yes, it's a mouthful), I'd love to hear from you.

TNX ES 73.

						- Mark

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From: rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DSP and The Future
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:13:10 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1jqpb2INNdi4@life.ai.mit.edu> regnad@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Paul Prescott) writes:
>
>coherer.  :)  The best possible scenario I can think of would be a 455 KHz
>add on DSP box.  This would make any receiver with a decent front end
>and a 455 KHz IF nothing short of an absolute marvel.  This is one solid
>state device I would not mind being able to hang on my vacuum tube radios.
>

Kenwood tries to do something similar with the TS850S and DSP100.  It
adds another LO and a mixer to generate a ~38Kcs IF that it processes using 
the DSP unit.  From what I have heard, it does not have a fast enough
DSP chip to do anything interesting even at that low IF.  However, the idea
is good and it might be an interesting poject to "fix" it to be more effective.
This may require replacement of DSP chip and a few :) other components. 

The $600 price tag on the DSP100 prevents me from getting it and putting
it under the soldering iron.  :(

Rajiv                                 
aa9ch    
Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu
Phone:   None. Only CW.
From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Spark Plug Wires 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:59:08 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Me? Organized? Hah! :-)

In article <199301231647.AA07170@afsp.b30.ingr.com> boyd@afsp.b30.INgr.COM
writes:

> It's about time for a tune up on a Chevy Pickup.  Any recommendations on
> spark
> plug wires that suppress noise?  I know there are many brands that say they
> are "suppressor" wires, but has anyone had any better or worse success with
> one brand over another??

I'd like to get the same info, but specific to my truck's ignition
system.  it's the High Energy Ignition type ignition system (1981
Chevy Silverado).  it's not really due for a tune-up, as such (my dad
and I just replaced the whole damned ignition system, sans plug wires),
but if there is a difference, I might be inclined to spend the $15 and
replace them anyways...just in case I run the HF rig in the truck
sometime....  (can you work AMTOR and drive at the same time?)

   --jim

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From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: illegals (was: Re: Radio Shack Business Band Radio)
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:25:34 GMT

Didn't I read in the Feb. QST that the FCC had indeed fined someone for  
selling non type-accepted CB equipment? As I recall, they fined him  
something like $8K. Maybe it wouldn't be so futile after all to bring  
these guys to the FCC's attention.

The article also noted that the person claimed he was bankrupt and  
couldn't pay the fine. Oh well... Then again, maybe forcing a few of them  
into bankruptcy will close them down.

73...    Mark    AA7TA
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:11:01 GMT
Subject: Re: DSP and the Future
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, Cecil_A_Moore@ccm.hf.INTel.COM (Cecil A Moore) writes:

>There's nothing magic about 455 KHz for an IF frequency.  In the '50s,
>I had a Hallicrafters SX-??? that had a 50 KHz last IF frequency.  Thus,
>instead of having to sample at 1 MHz, such an IF frequency could be 
>sampled at 120 KHz or so, well within the range of present-day DSP chips.
>An added bonus is that the 50 KHz IF filters already have a sharply
>selective response.

You can also undersample a high frequency IF.  For example, use an
18.01 kHz sample rate with a 9 MHz IF.  The 500'th harmonic then falls at
9.005 MHz.  So long as the 9 MHz crystal filter (roofing filter) has 
negligible response above 9.005 and below 8.996 MHz, no aliasing will
occur.  

Of course, this does require a 9 MHz crystal filter, one of the expensive
components you would like the DSP to replace.  With a double-conversion
receiver with 50 kHz IF, you have a fair amount of circuit complexity
and filtering.  There is no free lunch.

AL N1AL
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tuesday, 26 Jan 1993 14:39:19 PST
From: <MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Real NoCodes
 <1993Jan25.195100.4623@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <C1Fn0M.4tF@anomaly.sbs.com>

I have a Tech Plus liscense and am currently studying for my General.  I
also have numerous CB's which I use for vehicle/vehicle or ship/shore/vehicle
communications. I have become involved with a number of Ares/Races groups
and part of our Ham Club at work.  Listening to some of the people who have
General Liscenses on UHF, VHF, and HF, however, makes me wonder, however
what they are complaining about as to the no-code techs.  The pompous,
elitist know it all attitudes and the level of language used by these
"OM's" is worse than "kid" channels on CB.  Although I can't speak about
those who only use code, I'm still working on getting to an acceptable level
of competence to copy them, the mentality of a number of "old timers" I have
heard makes me wonder if they are keying the mic's with their tails.

I can not help but wonder if those decrying "no-codes" are either so myopic
that they do now see the jerks among their own ranks, or perhaps are part
of the group that makes CB look good by comparison.

Michael
KD6OAY
TechPlus
From: RGS%MHCC@gfimda.UUCP (Robert G. Schaffrath)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Real Hams?
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:56:26 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Someone had once commented to me that "Real Hams" (United States folks) had
callsigns that begin with either W<number> or K<number>!  Oh well...

Robert
N2JTX
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com 
Subject: Re: Real hams?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:12:55 GMT


In article <9301181510.aa20174@ingate.microsoft.COM>, a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho) writes...
>More vitriolic anti-no code mail! There are some interesting people in 
>net land!
> 
>72/73 Kevin, N7WIM / G8UDP
>a-kevinp@microsoft.com
>----------
>	[msg deleted] 
> 

	I believe it is in poor form to post personal mail to
	USEnet without permission...regardless of the contents.
	/john

      -------------------------------------------------------
      | John Brewer | Internet: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com  |
      |   wb5oau    | Packet  | wb5oau@wb2ars               |
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From: jbloom@arrl.org (Jon Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Any other W9RG DSP Filter users on the Net ?
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:17:25 EST
Organization: American Radio Relay League

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William E Van Horne) writes:
>     3.  The only real problem I had was mounting the LED bar display
>     on the front panel.  The suggested way of bending the legs of
>     the supplied socket was a disaster, and I can't see that it
>     would ever be anything but a terrible kluge.  I made a sub-chassis
>     out of a small piece of perf board with 0.1" perforations.  The
>     leads from the display exactly fit the holes.  After putting the
>     display chip on the perf board, the leads barely project through
>     the under side, but are long enough to allow one to wire-wrap or
>     solder onto them using fine wire.  (I used #30 teflon wire-wrap
>     type).  I twisted the ten pairs of wires together into a kind
>     of cable and soldered them into the holes in the main p.c. board.
>     Then I mounted the sub-chassis behind the front panel on 1/4"
>     spacers.  That way, its front surface is flush with the front
>     panel through a rectangular hole that I cut with a nibbler tool.
>
>     This was not the neatest way of doing the job.  A friend who also
>     built one of these did a better job: he mounted a standard DIP
>     socket in the holes on the p.c. board, then made up a 20-pin header
>     with a length of 20-conductor computer type flat cable to run to the
>     LED's which he mounted on the front panel.  That is doing it the
>     right way, but mine worked ok.

An even easier way is to use a standard 20-pin solder-type IC socket, and
bend one row of pins (pins 1-10) outward at a 90-degree angle.  Install the
socket in the board, then solder bus wire (or clipped resistor leads) to
connect pins 11-20 to the holes in the board.  Here's a side view of the
result:
               __
  socket -->  |  |--\   
   for  --->  |  |   \ <- bus wire
   LEDs --->  |__|_   \
                 =|====|====================== <- PC board

Note: Most low-cost solder-type IC sockets have flat pins.  They may face
along the socket or toward the end.  In other words, there are sockets
that allow the pins to easily be bent to the side, and there are sockets
that don't.  Check first!
-------
Jon Bloom, KE3Z              |  jbloom@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League  |     Justice is being allowed to do whatever
225 Main St.                 |     I like.  Injustice is whatever prevents
Newington, CT 06111          |     my doing so. -- Samuel Johnson
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:23462 rec.radio.shortwave:9936
From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: LW antenna
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:42:44 GMT
Reply-To: dadams@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.


Suppose one would like to try to pick up some DX stations on the AM broadcast
band.  Usually the antenna is inside the radio.  What could one do to 
set up a more sensitive antenna?  Is there anything one can do without 
spending much $$?  What if space is limited to a small back yard.  (I can
go maybe 200' max.)

---
--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
___________________________________________________________________
       Old Sourdoughs never die.  They just ferment away.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: perley@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (Don Perley)
Subject: Re: 2m/70cm antenna
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:21:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.001411.2445@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> pgc@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Phil Clark) writes:
>From article <3064@eram.esi.COM.AU>, by dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall):
>> Such a design appeared in "73" last year, called the "Copper Cactus."  It
>> was made from copper pipe, and apparently worked on 70cm (but not as well
>> as one would hope).

The copper cactus had separate transformers and feeds for the 2 bands.
I think the first guy was just using a regular 2 meter j-pole on both
bands.

I have been doing the same with a twinlead j-pole for years. It's
not that surprizing that it works, since the 70cm FM band is on the 
3rd harmonic of the 2 meter FM band.  The radiation angle may be 
higher on 440 (or lower if you feed it upside down :-).


-don perley - ke2tp


-- 
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From: enge@almaden.ibm.com (Roy Engehausen (8-457-2712))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RACES Bulletin #258
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:55:41 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


BID : $RACESBUL.258


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INFO:  ALL RACES OPERATORS IN CA (ALLCA: OFFICIAL)
       ALL AMATEURS U.S.         (@ USA: INFORMATION)
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RACESBUL.258                                DATE: Jan. 25, 1993
SUBJECT: MGT - The importance of planning - part 2/2

     Once the communications plan is developed, it must be given the
widest possible dissemination and tested for effectiveness through
drills and exercises. If it does not work well then it must be either
modified, or the users must be better trained and drilled, or a
combination of both must occur.
     It has been my experience that following most major inci-
dents there is a need to make adjustments to standard operating
procedures. Sometimes this means updating basic data or modifying
actual procedures. This is why SOP's should not be buried within
or threaded throughout any plan. A plan should be the basic
foundation and framework. The SOP's, operation manual, or similar
documents are the furnishings attached to a plan. This is why
well written plans and SOP's require frequent review, exercising,
and updating. Operations frequently fail or are considerably less
than optimum if this is not done. SOP's are best written by
people who have experience in carrying them out.
     A final word to tease the semanticists. Planning is plan-
ning, right? Then what, pray tell, is preplanning? Is this where
one contemplates to plan? Why not drop the "pre" and get right to
it!                      ---Stanly E. Harter, KH6GBX

EOM

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: No-codes
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 21:27:15 GMT

In article <VBREAULT.93Jan28110412@rinhp750.gmr.com> vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault) writes:
>
>For what it's worth, and lest anyone forget;  I'm proud of my Extra Class
>license and use CW almost exclusively when operating on HF.  However, I 
>still fail to see where the ability to use Morse code has ANY bearing on
>one's ability to operate on the phone subbands.  I would *MUCH* rather
>see the emphasis shifted off of Morse code and onto a more relevant
>subject.  I *DO* agree that some amount of effort should be required
>in order to upgrade to higher classes of licenses.  I believe that people
>value most those things that they had to sacrifice the most to obtain.
>Currently, the Morse code requirement meets that in principle, but it
>still isn't otherwise relevant.


I think people value most the things that are of the greatest *utility*
to them. Having grown up without electricity on demand, I certainly
value that more than anything I "sacrificed" for. Making sacrificial
offerings is a heathen practice of dubious value in appeasing the
powers that be.

Gary

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From: jdm@Cadence.COM (Joe Mastroianni)
Subject: Re: Real hams?
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:44:11 GMT

   Real hams tap sentimental messages on their lover's teeth with their 
   tongues.

   Real hams know how to load pine trees for 160M without using a
   capacitive hat.

   Real hams buy homes built on salt domes.

   Real hams believe bandwidth is a gift from God.

   Real hams can make crystal receivers with tooth fillings and dirty
   dinner utensils.

   Real hams know their location in celestial coordinates.

   Real hams can judge AC voltages using their tongues.

   Real hams buy barnacle encrusted equipment salvaged from 
   sunken WWII submarines and convert it for spread-spectrum use.

   Real hams plot DX-pileup strategy during sex.

   Real hams could care less what you think. They value all transmission
   modes equally, archaic or modern.  And if you can't track them
   from CW to SSB to AM to AMTOR to RTTY, you can go back to monitoring
   your Fisher Price baby buggers because the real hams would rather 
   talk to someone who has tried to survive in the  South Sandwich islands
   with a tent, an HF rig, and a can of self-heating beans.
   


   Right now, all the real hams in the world are having fun on the radio 
   while everyone else gripes.


   Joe
-- 
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Cadence Design Systems   Compuserve:  74017,310  Genie: JOE-M
Santa Clara Ca.          "Up the airy mountain;down the rushy glen; we
jdm@cadence.com           daren't go a hunting; for fear of little men "
From: summers@spk.hp.com (Jim B. Summers)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info wanted on GAP antennas
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:08:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: spk.C1FHE3.52I
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I am interested in hearing any reports on the quality, performance, etc
of the GAP antenna products verticals in general and specifically the 
Voyager IV (160m to 20m) and the Eagle VI (40m to 10m).  Has anyone had 
experience with these antennas?

I am asking this for a friend that does not read this group.  I will
forward any replies to him, or his email address is as shown below.

Jim Summers, KD7F
summers@hpspkla.spk.hp.com
or
Tom_Faulkner@hp1000.desk.hp.com
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