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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 11:35:49 CDT
From: Scott Graves <U26703@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: He can't dance/he CAN sing
 <1992Apr7.180752.16466@cs.unca.edu> <1992Apr08.052743.12199@crash.cts.com>

In article <1992Apr08.052743.12199@crash.cts.com>, jester@crash.cts.com (Ken
Bibb) says:

>In <1992Apr7.180752.16466@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan --
>Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
                                                                               '
>>Hah! It has some of Tony Banks' *amazing* synth on it -- Tony can do
>>more with 4 chords than most keyboard players can do in their entire
>>careers!

>Tony *was* able to do more with 4 chords than most keyboard players.
>"We Can't Dance" has him sleepwalking on his keyboard.

>>Oh, you'd rather have Genesis limping along like Yes, with people
>>saying the best is behind them, and they should hang it up, instead
>>of growing and changing? Maybe some people actually would...

I would suggest that everyone leave Mr. McMahan alone, he genuinely does
believe that Genesis has become better and better as the years pass.
I've rarely seen such entirely wasted devotion to a group or cause.
McMahan's periodic compulsion to make some fawning statement to the effect
that Tony Banks is a Gift to the Earth comparable to the Second Coming is
occassionally irritating, but look at it as you would any other social
phenomenon.  Try reading one of his pro-Genesis posts and compare it to
a designer on the Titanic maintaining even as the ship plummets like a spoon
in coffee that the vessel is "absolutely unsinkable", or even better, notice
the similarity between McMahan's Genesis advocacy and the continued bleating
of Leninists that despite the experience of Russia, Communist Marxism is
the only hope for the world's masses.

>Genesis is limping along--they make Yes look like Gods.  The best is
>behind them ("Selling England by the Pound") and they should hang it up.
>They are growing lazy and complacent.  If a group changes for the *better*
>it's good, but they've changed for the worse.

Now, let's not prop up Yes any more than they deserve.  Granted, the latest
offerings of Yes members (in the last few years) have maintained a similar
committment to musical intensity and complexity, but they haven't been
terribly successful.  It's not that post-Duke Genesis is lazy or complacent
(it seems to me) it's just that the direction they want to move in is
Wretched Pop Trash (TM).  Phil/Tony/Mike haven't sold out, they ARE bubble-
gum pop artists at heart.

>--
>jester@crash.cts.com

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: be126@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Powers)
Subject: Who does this song?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 06:09:45 GMT


OK,
  It goes like this:

	** NOISE **
	** GARBLED LYRICS **
	** NOISE **
	** Drum fill **
	Singer: 66 guns for Satan!
	<Repeat>

  Any help appreciated....!
From: hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Anthrax split??
Date: 1 Apr 92 14:51:40 GMT
	<1992Mar30.175759.1615@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


In article <1992Mar30.175759.1615@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>
renegade@vax1.mankato.msus.edu wrote: 
> In article <1992Mar30.154848.1@husky1.stmarys.ca>, cs308a003@husky1.stmarys.ca writes:
>> Help!!!!
>>      I've just heard a rumor that Joey Belladonna has split from Anthrax.
>> Anyone who can confirm this and tell me why PLEASE send me a message!!!
[ stuff deleted ]
> I'm afraid it's not a rumor.  Anthrax has indeed lost its lead singer, although
> I, too am at a loss as to why.  I'd be interested to know, too.  It happened a
> month or so ago.

Scott Ian and Charlie Benante were interviewed on MTV yesterday, and
they said that the split was due to musical differences but that they
did not want to talk about about it at the moment because of a lawsuit
[I didn't quite catch what this lawsuit involved]. Scott added that
"musical difference" is an extremely cliche'd excuse for such splits,
but that it really was the case here, and that it simply amounted to
the rest of the band wanted to go in one direction with Joey wanting
to go in another. It wasn't a question of Joey and the rest of the
band falling foul of each other.


- Hans


--
Hans H{\"u}ttel, Office E1-111                   -   hans@iesd.auc.dk  
Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
Fredrik Bajersvej 7E, 9220 Aalborg {\O} DENMARK - North Jutland is for lovers.
From: jhsa@cc.tut.fi (Janne Salmij{rvi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: NEW Art Of Noise??
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:25:22 GMT
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland


In <1992Apr9.013313.10427@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic) writes:

>Does anyone know anything about it?  Is there a new album?  Is this
>somehow connected to the relatively new compilation in the UK of AoN
>dance-ish re-mixes?  (about a month or two ago)

I heard sometime ago on MTV-europe in an AON interview that they got their
creativity back thanks to this technomixcompilation. So I think they could
be releasing new material soon (They said they already had sampled lotsa new
sounds).
-- 
- You can hear the sound of two hands clapping. + Janne Salmij{rvi
- Now how does one hand sound ? 	        + jhsa@cc.tut.fi
--                                              + jhsa@ee.tut.fi
From: mvanmeet@ub.d.umn.edu (Michiel van Meeteren)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Metallica with Guns and Roses opening
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:08:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth. Information Services.

I heard from a friend of mine yesterday that Metallica is going on tour
sometime real soon with GNR opening for them.  Has anyone seen the concert
schedule yet?  If you have, can you e-mail me the date for a concert in the
Twin Cities (minneapolis/St. Paul)

Thanks in advance,
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 /  /  /  /  /_/  /__) | and I hit <SHIFT>, nothing happened.  Then I hit
/  /  (__/__/  \_/\__/ | <CAPS LOCK>, and still nothing happened!!               
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: msr@kepler.unh.edu (Mathew S Reno)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:03:58 GMT

>>  They're just swearing for the sake of swearing, not because it has any
>>meaning to the music (whatever music there is, if any). They just like to be
>>controversial.
>>
> And you're just criticizing for the sake of criticizing. Besides why should
>people listen to some geek who listens to Stryper.

What are you talking about? What did he say that makes you think he listens
to Stryper? What makes you think he's a geek? And, who are you? If your going
to try to flame someone, at least have the common  courtesy to leave your
name. This is the thing about anonymous flamers, they think they are winning
by not leaving their names, but they're just plain stupid.

>>  I'm talking about listening to GOOD guitar players like Steve Howe, John
>>McLaughlin, or Robert Fripp. Not hackers like Slash who don't even know which
>>end of the instrument to blow into.
>
>I know you know which end of a dick to blow into.

Instead of who are you? Perhaps I should say, what are you?

This guy/gal/it? is a jerk and his idiotic posting has nothing to do with
the original post. Personally, I despise GNR for their musical ignorance
and lack of imagination. But if I had posted a whole article about this
subject and someone posted a response that just said, "No they don't you
so and so," and just insult me for what I think without stating why they
liked/disliked the group, I would be extremely offended. The point of a 
debate is to debate, not to insult. So, if you have nothing constructive
to add, don't post garbage (like the last post).

--Matt

-- 
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**msr@kepler.unh.edu   ** Edmund-"Then Percy you have the most fashionable    **
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Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:13896 rec.music.christian:2749 rec.music.folk:3143 ba.music:671
From: zen@death.Corp.Sun.COM (d)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.christian,rec.music.folk,ba.music
Subject: New Van Morrison Mailing List
Keywords: van is god?
Date: 9 Apr 92 23:35:49 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: death.corp.sun.com


 Hello -- I asked around, but couldn't find anything, so I'm starting
a mailing list for Van Morrison fans.  If there is another list, please
let me know... in any case, the new Van Morrison mailing list is "van"
(yes, really original.)  You can get on the list by mailing to:

van-request@death.corp.sun.com

  You should get some kind of moderately timely response; if not, feel
free to mail to me -- zen@death.corp.sun.com.

  What will the list be all about?  Basically, anything relating to
Van Morrison is fair game.  Concerts (reviews and dates), recordings
(albums, cd's, promos, bootlegs, etc.), blathering fandom, personal
quips, quotes, and stories, etc.

  Welcome in advance!

 -- dan
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:14088 alt.rock-n-roll:9594
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: UAP #16 and #17 - Lost votes?
Keywords: Usenet Artists Poll
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:28:59 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Enea Data AB

It has come to my knowledge that at least one ballot in the Lou
Reed poll did not reach me, yet the voter did not get his ballot
in return. Since our news feed and UUCP connection has been flaky
recently, and the participation in the Reed poll was unexpectedly 
low, I suspect that more votes have been lost.

For the current Marillion vote, I will send an acknowledge to all
votes I have received this far, and in the future acknowledge all
votes I get.

For the Lou Reed poll, I attach to this posting a list the persons
who actually voted. If you did vote on Lou Reed, and your name is
not that list, please try to mail me again (do *not* post, news is
even more unreliable than mail). If you can reconstruct your ballot
(or compose a new one, I will do a second re-tally. The album list
from the original call is attached to this posting after the list of 
voters.

If you don't care to send me a ballot anew, please mail me anyway,
since I like find out how big the problem is.

And, yes, if you didn't vote, but like to vote now, it is OK, but
please indicate so in your mail, so I know that you did not have 
any problems in reaching me.

Any replies to this posting, as soon as possible. I'll do any
potential re-tally coming weekend.


I received ballots on Lou Reed from the following persons:

"C. Wekx" <mad-2@kub.nl>
"No thanks, I already have a penguin..." <MARCH@ecs.umass.edu>
"Seth Tisue" <tisu@midway.uchicago.edu>
911414p@ace.acadiau.ca (PIOTR CEZARY  PROSZYNSKI)
<OTG@CSI.compuserve.com>
David Chalmers <dave@cogsci.indiana.edu>
Jarle Brinchmann <jarleb@ulrik.uio.no>
Peter Keating       MPP293 576-1710 <peterk@ksgbbs.harvard.edu>
Ulf Sundin <Ulf.Sundin@infolog.se>
al@IRIS.CLAREMONT.EDU (crispy derson the wearer of wigs)
eerke@cs.kun.nl
gandhi3@husc.harvard.edu
hhj@ncrsecp.copenhagen.ncr.com
ip113@knott.ii.uib.no
jvitek@csr.UVic.CA (Jan  Vitek)
lothar@iiasa.iiasa.ac.at (Lothar Winkelbauer)
lxfogel@srv.PacBell.COM (Lee Fogel)
maes@prl.philips.nl
neeri@iis.ethz.ch
nexus@neit.cgd.ucar.EDU (Jeff Berry)
ntmtv!shea@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Ray Shea)
roee@itk.unit.no
sc00@Lehigh.EDU (STEFANO CARRA)
sommar (Erland Sommarskog)
vp@fct.unl.pt (Vasco Pedro)

Ballot template:

&BEGIN
Lou Reed
Transformer
Berlin
Rock'n'Roll Animal
Sally Can't Dance
Lou Reed Live
Metal Machine Music
Coney Island Baby
Rock And Roll Heart
Street Hassle
Take No Prisoners
The Bells
Growing Up In Public
The Blue Mask
Legendary Hearts
New Sensations
Live in Italy
Mistrial
New York
Songs For Drella
Magic and Loss
-- compilations:
Walk on the Wild Side
Wild Child
The Best of Lou Reed
Rock'n'Roll Diary
&END
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: pinky@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Burbank)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New DISPOSABLE HEROES of HIPHOPRISY album is a revelation.
Keywords: DHH
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:44:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington

dit@frenzy.sybase.com (David Trumbull) writes:

>In article <1992Mar20.215327.4094@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby) writes:
>>
>>K!z!K- you gotta realize that super political shit like that will NEVER sell outside of Frisco or any other ultra-liberal place.  Hip Hop is a great medium for change  but I know alot of hip-hop fans dont want to be bogged down with songs like "television
>>"  They're a depressing group!
>>-mike

>WHAT? Are you crazy or just stupid? Have you been listening to hip hop at all
>for the last 5 years? Correct me if I'm wrong, but a large percentage of 
>hip hop  is 'super political'. X-clan is far more radical than DHOH. Damn,
>Gil Scott Heron was selling a million in the seventies when people were 
>supposedly into escapist no message music. What kind of hip-hop fans are
>these that you are talking about? Computer science students at colombia?
>Take a walk over to Brooklyn and you'll find out what hip-hop fans are
>REALLY listening to.
>jeez.
>your mama your mama your mama your mama your mama your mama your mama your mama
>  Superhigh            \ I saw your mama riding down East 14th on a Ninja
> dit@sybase.com        /        with a skillet on her head
>100% dissin you       /		    bahahahahahahahaha


YEH WHAT HE SAID.  LOVE DHH AND GIL SCOTT-HERON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: T.Moore@newcastle.ac.uk (Tony Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:25:24 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Tone) writes:


>MBV have three full-length albums to their credit ! Plus quite a quite
>a few other singles, 12 inch, and EP thingys. The album you forgot to
>mention _Ecstacy and Wine_ was released after _Isn't Anything_. Seen
>as a bit of a cash in by MBV's previous label Lazy records, the album
>pre-dates _Isn't Anything_ . MBV themselves were pretty pissed off at
>the time of it's release as they felt it was not representative of
>their current work. The label itself had previously considered that
>the album was not 'good enough for release'.

>Style-wise the record is very similar to _Isn't Anything_ and in IMHO
>these two leave _Loveless_ standing.

>Unhelpfully

>Tone.

  "Ecstacy and Wine" was a cobbling together of "Strawberry Wine" and
"Ecstacy", one of which was a mini-LP and the other a single/EP, both of which
were released before "Isn't Anything". Lazy has now folded and everything MBV
have done previously to "You Made Me Realise" is deleted.

                                Tony
From: ghogen@hermes.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Guido Hogen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: The Chameleons U.K.
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:15:46 GMT
Organization: RBI - RWTH Aachen

cxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher Fenton) writes:

>	There was a band from Manchester in the early to mid '80's 
>called the Chameleons.  Does anybody know anything about a song of
>theirs called: "Swamp Thing"  What record it's on, etc...  And if
>anybody's got a copy they wouldn't mind getting rid of, hint hint
>I would say no,,,  

It's on their third album "Strange Times" (1986, Geffen 924119).
Unfortunately, the album never appeared on CD. Btw, anybody heard
something about Mark Burgess' new band "The Sons of God"?

Guido
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: bst@wang.com (Bruce Tannenbaum)
Subject: Re: terry reid?
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 12:45:18 GMT

stuart@apollo.hp.com (Stuart Troutman) writes:


>I saw this name on the recent list of upcoming releases:

>                      Terry Reid

>Could this possibly be the same guy who I remember back around 1968-70?
>A young English blues-rocker with a distinctive smoky tenor voice and a 
>bit of guitar talent. He led a trio, simply called The Terry Reid Group, 
>that received a lot of press attention and put out two albums on the CBS/
>Epic label in the US (probably on CBS or Columbia in the UK) with some 
>pretty good stuff. They did one of the 793 covers of Donovan's "Season of 
>the Witch" that came out at that time. He also had a modest early FM "hit"
>with a song called something like "Tinker, Tailor....". One of the albums 
>was called "Bang Bang, You're Terry Reid" (it must've had a cover of 
>Cher's "Bang Bang" on it?). Then he just seemed to vanish. I've often 
>wondered what became of him, and now this name pops for the first time in 
>ages. Is there another Terry Reid? The guy I'm thinking of would have to 
>be about 40-45 years old now. Who else remembers this guy? 

>                                             -stuart@apollo.hp.com

Ouch! Another ancient on the net.  I remember Terry Reid very well, and I
do have at least one of the aforementioned albums in my collection, plus
a single of "Mayfly".  Never thought I hear him mentioned again.

Bruce
-- 
Bruce S. Tannenbaum (RADAR) <bst@wang.com>
VoiceCom Systems Inc., San Francisco, CA and Tewksbury, MA.
"I have a cunning plan!"
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Genesis more creative than Yes??!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:49:39 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <RJC.92Apr11003439@brodie.cstr.ed.ac.uk> rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.022327.20796@nic.unh.edu>, Timothy C Webb (tcw) writes:
>tcw> Even if there was a difference in price, you have to take into
>tcw> account the simple fact that prices are most definitely NOT set
>tcw> by the band, but rather by the bigwig managers and producers at
>tcw> the record companies.
>
>Only if the band lets them. You're not really saying you believe a
>band with the pulling power of Yes is controled by its manager? I
>presume Yes prooduce on their own label, if not they easily could, so
>the only remaining problem is distribution and many independent labels
>manage quite well. 

Yes has never had their own label.  They've been on Atlantic from day
one up until recently, when they switched to Arista.  I think this is
mostly due to lawyers.  (Arista carried ABWH, and eight of the twelve
Union tracks were written and performed by the ABWH group)

>Or do you have evidence that Wakeman et-al made no money from the
>Union game show?

What game show?  If you're meaning to degrade the concert, please
don't.  I thought it was one of the best (no, make that THE best)
concert I've ever been to.

If there was a Yes game show on TV somewhere, I'd like to see it.  :-)

>[I was under the impression that Buford had explicitly said he did it
>for the money, maybe that was the previous advertiser's wet dream].

Bruford is primarilly a Jazz musician.  But he doesn't make much money
from his Jazz bands.  So he plays with Yes and ABWH to make some
money.  What's wrong with that?  Must a good artist also be starving?



-- 
David Charlap                   Q:"Where do these stairs go?"
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu          A:"They go up"
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From: ben@cs.vu.nl (Bruschke BAH)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Who has the 'SF ref in song(titles)' list?
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:48:03 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam

Some time ago someone posted a list of songtitles/songs with Science Fiction
references in them to this news-group. Can someone who still has this list
please send it to me. Many thanks in advance.

					Ben 
					<ben@cs.vu.nl>
From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Starry Eyed and Laughing
Keywords: Thought Talk
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Apr9.135900.14002
Organization: AT&T

A few people have sent me mail inquiring about this band after I
mentioned them in my "Power Pop" post.  

Well, I don't have a lot to tell.  I only know of one album, "Thought
Talk," which was released on Columbia Records in '75 or '76.  It's
something of a cross between Byrds-like twelve-string chiming and 
Pete Townshend power chording.  Very melodic songs, catchy
choruses, nice Byrds-inspired harmonies.  All in all, really a
fine album.  I'd love to find more music from these folks.

What else . . . I believe the band was from England.  Principle
songwriters and vocalists were chaps named Tony Poole and Iain
Whitmore, of whom I've heard nothing since.  They had a very
minor hit (as in played on the radio maybe three or four times)
with "One Foot in the Boat," which has some great lyrics, and
which impressed me sufficiently to go out and buy the album at
the time.  Some of the lyrics:

I played with some sleeping pills
To see if my brain could score.
I lost the game one hundred - nil
All over the bathroom floor.
I got so hungry for a face 
I had to pick up the phone.
I placed a call to the human race
Saying "Why don't you leave me alone?"
I had one foot in the boat
And one foot on the bank,
The bank was soon too far to reach
And the boat sank.

Is there anybody else out there who remembers these folks?

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
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ajw@cblpo.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: toshj@vccsouth20.its.rpi.edu (Joseph T. Tosh)
Subject: Re: Collins > Gabriel? (Was Re: he can't dance/he can't sing)
Reply-To: toshj@rpi.edu
Organization: Rennselaer Polytechnic Institute.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:35:10 GMT

>Most of the above people would, when Phil Collins farted, applaud and
>call it high "art".

Hey, let's have a little common decency on here. Now, regardless of your opinion, you can make your pint without getting disgusting. All you do when you make statements like that is make people think less of your opinion because you don't even have the ability to state it in a decent manner. 

					Joe

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Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 14:40:05 EDT
From: <SC261005@ysub.ysu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: MORRISSEY

To anyone who can help...
-Does Morrissey have a fan club, if so, where can I write to him at?
-Any news on a new Morrissey album?

Goodnight and thank you

A true MORRISSEY fan!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc