HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pcurtis@willamette.edu (Paul E. Curtis)
Subject: Re: Weekend! What for???
Keywords: *cry*
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:37:01 GMT

In article <By3wt9.4q5@ecf.toronto.edu> deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert) writes:
>
>You are definitely not alone. There are plenty of people in the world that feel
>exactly as you do. They're all around, hiding behind their masks, hoping that
>someone will approach them, too afraid to do the approaching for fear of 
>looking like fools. Everyone has a story, and they're happy to tell it if
>someone would only listen. Why not take a chance, and just talk to anyone -- 
>especially if the person if the person is trying to hide in a corner. It
>couldn't be worse that being alone all the time, and it might result in
>new friendships. At the very least it will give you a more friendly 
>reputation.
>
>You say you keep hoping for email. Have you tried looking at soc.penpals?
>There are a lot of bored people and people who are eager to write there.
>
>Life is too short and precious to let it slip away. Above all, do something.
>Don't worry about looking like a fool. We often tend to look at ourselves
>more critically than we look at others. And even if you make a total fool
>of yourself, people eventually forget. However, you won't forget lost
>oppportunities. There is nothing more scary than looking back on your life
>at the end of your life and thinking "If only I ..., but now it's too late."
>
>
>Hope this helps, at least a little. And I'm sorry if I'm misreading you.

Well...you *are* misreading me slightly, but that's prolly 'cos I was so
depressed when I wrote what I did, that I didn't think to make it as clear as
I should've.  Fact is, I'm not completely isolated; I *do* have plenty of
superficial friends, but a more substantial connection (read:  an SO) still
eludes me.  My problem is that I have a _very_ strict definition of what
constitutes a "real" friend, so I s'pose I'm just being too much of an elitist
for my own good.  :-)  There are plenty of people with whom I _could_ do
things, but I'm too arrogant and superior to bother with 'em...and then I
expect them to see beyond my masks.  Yeah, right.  I should consider myself
lucky with what I have, but my expectations are so high...and reducing them is
easier said than done.

Smeg.  I must be the least self-confident narcissist around.  <grin>  The
worst of both worlds.

(Oh, and as for the email--I was really referring to local email from my
"friends" here at Willamette.  Part of the paradox I live under--I don't want
to do things with them, but I want them to communicate with me.  Bah.)

>Good Luck, and Take care

Thanks.  Sorry to have been so self-pitying--I'm not nearly as depressed now
as I was when I wrote that.  (And whaddaya know--someone told me last night
that I _am_ her best friend, at least here in Salem.  Yaaay!  Next thing I
know, someone'll send me flowers...)  :-)

						--Paul Curtis

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey)
Subject: Re: Introduction
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 04:47:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov18.194508.23463@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
>In article <92Nov18.002124.15689@acs.ucalgary.ca> verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>>In article <clevelak.2.0@columbia.dsu.edu> clevelak@columbia.dsu.edu (KAREN R. CLEVELAND) writes:

>The Good Romantic Witch spots the two lovely ladies new
>in ARC-Land.  She circles them above on her Golden Broom
>then slowly glides to the ground and lands her Broom near
>them.  "Welcome to ARC-Land, Ladies!  No need to be shy,
>we're very glad you've joined us!  Maybe a little dusting
>will help you feel more relaxed."  The GRW waves her Golden
>Wand and Karen and Mary-Ann are showered heavily with the
>GRW's special Golden Majique Romance Dust.  "You will be
>begin feeling very warm and wonderful inside as the effects
>of the dusting take over."  The GRW notices this huge grin
>coming across both ladies' faces.  "Looks like it's working!"
>The Good Romantic Witch mounts her Golden Broom, smiles at
>Karen and Mary-Ann and takes off, waving and saying, "May
>All your dreams come true!  See you again soon.  Enjoy!!" :-)


{MA feels a sense of wonder and warmth flood her senses and her
face lights up with joy... }

Thanks Lisa :) I feel more at ease and relaxed posting now...
although it's hard to keep up when you can only scan the
newsgroup every couple of days... :) But I try to post once and
awhile... 

>          ** Warm Bewitching Welcome Huggs **

{MA is hugged and happily huggs the Offical Good Romantic Witch
of the RFA right back with an added snug :)}

>p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
>      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence

Very nice saying Lisa :)

*snugs to all the ARC'ers out there*

Mary-Ann
*Semi-sorta-lurker of ARC*



-- 
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Mary-Ann Verwey                    Hold on to the shining moments in times
verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca             of darkness, they will pull you through
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From: roth@sitter.ips.id.ethz.ch (Martin Roth)
Subject: Re: Hello, world ...
Keywords: Hiya!
Organization: ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:17:33 GMT

Our ARC-LIT (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY) greets:
>Tauther unlurks:

>>Hello ... I've been lurking here for, oh, say a week.  :-)  I just thought
>>I'd introduce myself, and ask a question to the crowd ...
>> 
>>[He bows.]
>> 
>>What is the 'group opionion', so to speak, of a LDR?
>>Suggestions about it?
>>Warnings?
>> 
>>Any comments at all would be appreciated.
>> 

><The ARC-LIT sneaks in with her ward, an angelic-looking six year-old girl 
>named Kylie, and comes behind Tauther ...>
><Elizabeth and Kylie pounce gently and launch a tickle-assault on Tauther.  
>He is helpless in their onslaught ... Kylie finally pins him down, and the 
>ARC-LIT gets up, brushing the dust off herself and giggles.>

Now THAT made me certain... *grin*

Nice to meet you here, Tauther. Happy birthday (somewhat late..)!
Do you have some specific reasons to ask about LDR's ?

-Martin
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 22 Nov 1992 17:01:56 MST
From: Lisa Mae <AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Ariel in a vat-Steve
 <1992Nov18.160315.20834@cs.nott.ac.uk>

In article <1992Nov18.160315.20834@cs.nott.ac.uk>, pcxsws@unicorn.nott.ac.uk
(S.Ward-Smith) says:
>Steve:
>A fur cleaning tip from the official Alchemist.
>I bet Ariel isn`t named after a washing powder for nothing.
>"The dirt said hot, the label said not,
>but Ariel got it clean"
>
>Then again it is supposed to wash whiter than white,
>and I don't know if that is a fitting way to describe her!!

   Hey, I was raised in the pure way of almost being in a convent.
It's my mind that seems to get these ideas.  Besides, I was taught
to think this way, by the two men I reply this way too.  So  I am
enjoying a few moments in my otherwise strict and conservative life.
>
>Sorry about that, couldn`t resist.

   Think nothing of it. *smile*
>
Ariel
From: bz687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (E. Andi Woods)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Thanksgiving Greetings from the Gypsy... before she vanishes agai...
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:18:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (E. Andi Woods)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


*hugs-n-kisses* everyone...

With the way things have been going, this will be my last chance to check
in on ARC until after finals next week, soooooooo... I just wanted to wish
everyone a happy thanksgiving... those of you who will be traveling for
thanskgiving, drive carefully, i would hate see any of my ARC friends
suffer dire consequences for their desire to travel... To those of you in
Europe, Austrailia, and other wonderful, far off places, *hugs* i would
have limited distribution of this to US only, but this server doesn't
appear to have that option... 

To those of you who were wondering what the gypsy was doing for
thanksgiving... i am spending the day with the wonderful man i have been
seeing for the past couple of weeks... hmmm now that you mention it, maybe
my lack of appearances 'round here lately has had something to do with
that... hehe... :) should prove interesting to say the least... 

If you need to reach me, or if you have questions, or if you just want to
talk, your best bet is, as usual, to email me... i am not sure when i will 
have a chance to read ARC, and i wouldn't want to miss anything... 

*hugs* to all

Andi, the Gypsy
You know who I am... 
-- 
---=>E. Andi Woods: ewoods@desire.wright.edu or bz687@cleveland.freenet.edu
At one time I had given much thought to why men were so very rarely capable
  of living for an ideal.  Now I saw that many, no, all men were capable of
  dying for one.  -Herman Hesse _Demian_
From: sinister@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: RE: Introduction
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:45:39 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

> 
> Blackjac, the OFFICIAL gambler of the FRA.
> 
> Anyone want to take a chance with me???
> 
============================================

	Talk about broadly interpretable statements.....

	-'Sinister
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Dancing in CA
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 03:35:16 GMT

In article <1e3ak4INNrel@rodan.UU.NET> dch@rodan.UU.NET (Dan C. Horner) writes:
>Rip poses, Dave groans...
>
>>>'Night fever, night fever'  Disco forever!! (insert John Travolta
>>>pose here)
>>>
>>Oh brother...
>
>
>You know, that really is a scary thought...
>
>Come with me down into the bottom recesses of my mind.
>
>Rip, clad in a white, wide lapeled, satin striped disco suit.
>The suit groaning from the width of the barrel chest, the
>vest screaming out in protest as rip "Strikes the pose..."
>
>And then to the tune of Saturday Night Fever....
>
>From the Halls of Montezuma...
>
>ahahahahahahhahahahhahhaha
>
>Blade

Great!  I love it!  But don't forget the bell-bottom pants and the
platform shoes!  Remember those?  Or are you just too damn young?

rip
-- 
"All my friends and I are crazy.  That's the only thing that keeps us
sane."
From: wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bill Buse)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:59:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Let it Snow, Let it Snow, Let it Snow
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat

In alt.romance.chat, jturner@lonestar.utsa.edu (John M. Turner) writes:
 > wjb@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (aka Bill Buse) writes:
 >>In alt.romance.chat, lfink@dsd.es.com (Lonnie Fink) writes:
 >>
 >>>  		IIITTTT''SSSS   SSSSSNNNNOOOWWWIINNG!!!!
 >>>
 >>>  	It's so COOL!  Don'cha all just love the snow??  The skiing,
 >>>  the snow, the warm fireplace, and best of all DONUTS in church parking
 >>>  lots :-))))))  Great stuff.  You know what's even better??  Listening
 >>
 >>I also love the snow!!!  I also love a playful snowball fight with the
 >>appropriate person of the opposite sex.   :-)  :-)  
 >
 > I agree, I got to do this once with a very special person many years ago...
 > (Unfortunately, San Antonio is far enough south that it only snows here once
 > every 5 or 6 years.)
 > And warming up afterwards is fun, too!

I have to agree with this!!!!!  :-)  :-)  :-)  

 > What is nicer, though, is taking a walk through a forest while it's snowing,
 > with your SpecialSomeone walking with you arm-in-arm.
 > Very peaceful, and romantic.

I also think this can be very romantic!!!!  Something else that is nice and
very romantic is ice skating together on a mountain pond while big, fluffy
snowflakes gently fall around you.   :-)  :-)  

Another romantic idea is to go out at night in the mountains during a full 
moon when fresh snow is on the ground.  It is so light out and you don't have
to look very hard to see the wildlife milling about.  :-) 
 
Bill
wjb@hpisla.lvld.hp.com
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From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Subject: Re: Introduction
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:48:43 GMT

In article <By0v2B.JJu@cck.coventry.ac.uk> tsc@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Masterjee) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.194508.23463@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:

>>of the dusting take over."  The GRW notices this huge grin
>>coming across both ladies' faces.  "Looks like it's working!"
>>The Good Romantic Witch mounts her Golden Broom, smiles at
>>Karen and Mary-Ann and takes off, waving and saying, "May
>>All your dreams come true!  See you again soon.  Enjoy!!" :-)
>>          ** Warm Bewitching Welcome Huggs **
>>
>>Lis, The Official Good Romantic Witch
>>and Honoured Former President
>
>>Hi I am The Master....I would also like to join in if I may.
>>I like the idea of a warm feeling inside as I have been alone on
>>my quest through life.I came across the quite by accident but boy
>>am I glad! Now my life may have some meaning and I won't exist in
>>this vacumn anymore.Thats all for now.....I leave my future happiness
>>in your warm hearts.

The Good Romantic Witch Waves her wand 3 times and The Master
is showered with a special magical blend of Golden Majique
Romance Dust.   "Welcome to ARC-Land!  Stay with us in ARC-land
and you will no longer have to feel alone." 

           ** Magical Bewitching Welcome Huggs **

Lis, The Official Good Romantic Witch
and Honoured Former President
of the Romantic Fire Association

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 22 Nov 1992 16:28:55 MST
From: Lisa Mae <AZLMH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Ariel in a vat
Distribution: world

In article <1ebnovINNojs@agate.berkeley.edu>, scoger@ocf.berkeley.edu (Scott
Gier) says:
>
Ariel:
>  No, you come in and get me. (I have to have something to lick off too.)
>*********
Badger:
>  "Come in and get you, Ariel.  But I would get my fur all coated with
>chocolate.  Last time that happened it took me a week to get it all out."
>Badger looks down and realizes the futility of his argument and dives in.
>*splash*
>"I believe I'll start licking right here."
>
  After she steps out of the pool, Ariel turns to look at the now drenched
Badger.  "Oh, I'm sorry.  I forgot you were furry....don't want to get a
hairball in my throat or anything." *smile*
  So, if you want to lick this off, you'll have to catch me before I jump
into that stream over there. With a *wink* to the Badger, she was off in
the direction of the clear water.
*****
Ariel
*Didn't want to gain any unnecessary weight.*
*thud* *groan* No Badger, that wasn't an invitation to jump on me. *hug*
From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: CASTLE:  The stranger tries his luck elsewhere..
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:20:03 GMT

After standing before the castle awaiting a response that doesn't come,
Marcello decides that the inhabitants of the castle are too busy to deal
with a stranger wandering through their land.  Slowly, methodically, Marcello
spins around to face the forest.  As he turns, his cloak rises and forms the
most perfect of natural forms, the circle.  Seeing this himself, his mind
thinks back upon his past.  "How ironic."  He begins to think aloud as he
starts moving toward the trees.  "Just like much of my past, both relationships
and life in general.  To a quick glance of others, it may seem perfect or with
out many faults, but under closer examination all the tears and holes show
themselves."  With this last thought, he takes a hold of his cloak and 
runs the faded and tattered material through his fingers.

Releasing the corner of his cloak, Marcello snaps back to his surroundings
as if not a single thought passed his mind.  About halfway between the castle
gates and the first trees, Marcello stops and looks back at the architecture
making personal notes about its form and strength.  "Maybe I'll run into 
someone within the trees that could answwer a few of my questions."  One
more breath's time to glance at the structure before Marcello disappears
into the familiarity of the trees.  Only the thought of how comfortable it was
to be surrounded by trees again interupted his hopes of meeting someone.

cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

	Il Viaggiatore
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: roth@sitter.ips.id.ethz.ch (Martin Roth)
Subject: Re: Hello, world ...
Keywords: Hiya!
Organization: ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:22:50 GMT

pcurtis@willamette.edu (Paul E. Curtis) doubts he's in the right group:
>In article <1992Nov18.131733.11943@bernina.ethz.ch> roth@sitter.ips.id.ethz.ch (Martin Roth) writes:
>>Our ARC-LIT (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY) greets:
>>
>>><Elizabeth and Kylie pounce gently and launch a tickle-assault on Tauther.  
>>>He is helpless in their onslaught ... Kylie finally pins him down, and the 
>>>ARC-LIT gets up, brushing the dust off herself and giggles.>
>>
>>Now THAT made me certain... *grin*
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>What--you mean, us newbies have to prove ourselves to gain your acceptance?!?
>
>Bah...knew I shoulda gone to alt.angst, instead...

Paul, you're right here. I just happen to be one of the three persons
around here understanding the inside joke (or is there something else
knowing Kylie?).

-Martin



Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: net.contipation.problems
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 12:32:18 GMT

dch@rodan.UU.NET (Dan C. Horner) writes:

>>So now it's 6:15 on Sunday the 15th - and there's a whole
>>10 new messages - mostly from Friday.  Will it happen again?
>>Will I ever catch up?  I don't know who's here and who's
>>not!?!?!?!

>Nope... Not until you get a decent newsfeed... 

>>Blade - you work at a key site - can you do me a BIG favor
>>and pour some ex-lax into the system so I can keep getting
>>my a.r.c fix???  I'm getting withdrawal symptoms!!

>Not a problem...Hey, if you guys were on a leased line 
>(Andy was talking about getting a slip connection) then
>we could feed you ALL Usenet news (~52meg/day) for 55/month.
>A bargain at 1/2 the price !!!

>Okay, so much for the marketing spiel... Actually, You might
>want to have a talk with your news provider (ub-gate.ub.com ?)
>about the reliability of their newsfeed...

>Interesting... Wetware.com only has a 200 cost MX pointing at
>ub-gate? Odd cost assigned to a single MX...But whatever...

>>CatWoman

>Seeya...

>Blade

I can sympathise with anyone suffering net.problems.
I would like to hassle our sysadmin about our 6-day net.lag, but
hassling him over why there is only 200K free space on our netowrk
, thereby preventing me transferring data files, takes precedence.

You could always take the brutal way out, and get yourself a new account
at a public access site, like I did.

BTW - has anyone got *any* idea what Blade was talking about up there??
(Is this any different to normal)

Hope this helps, Catwoman
(Email if you want details)

Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
***********************************************************
Ignore the from line: I'm really at rwm@stan.xx.swin.oz.au

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From: pcurtis@willamette.edu (Paul E. Curtis)
Subject: Re: Taking the plunge...
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:03:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.111643.19305@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
> 
>*HUG*

Thanx...I needed that.  *hug returned*

>Pull up a chair, or a spot in the vat - Welcome!

Groovy!  I think perhaps I oughta get settled in 'fore hitting the vat, but it
does look (and smell) awfully tempting...  :-)

						--Paul Curtis

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: johnsons@cheshire.oxy.edu (Sarah Curtis Johnson)
Subject: Re: I can post again!!!!*hugs*
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:27:43 GMT

Um...you might've noticed from my last post that I'm in a kinda melancholy
mood, which is strange, considering I am once again able to post!! 
Yea!!
Whatever evil spirit that was invading my system has been chased away, and here
I am, back in ARC where I belong...:)

Well, I've been sitting here helpless, watching all sorts of newcomers arrive, 
and birthdays pass by...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to all those I've missed!!!

And WELCOME to all those who have come since I was forced to temporary silence!!

Um, if you'll excuse me, I have been suffering an immense chocolate deficiency,
so, um....*SPLASH*

Ah...back in the vat....*Much* better...*strawberrygrins*

*hugs* to all...                  

-Sarah
Official Strawberry of the RFA
(um, I guess that would actually be *chocohugs* to all, considering I'm 
	gloriously immersed in chocolate at the moment...Mmmmmmm...)
*CHOCOHUGS*!!!!



Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: GRW Peeps In
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 23:40:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.205834.3500@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.190407.18940@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov18.163508.20051@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:

**some deleted**

>>guy, had to hang her head out the window to keep from drowning the
>>inside of the limo out! *wring*
>
>*Lots of Laughter*    What would I do without you, BigBro?
>* Warm Sisterly Hugg *
>
>
>Lis, The Official Good Romantic Witch
>and Honoured Former President
>of the Romantic Fire Association
>
>p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
>      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence


Well, for one thing, you'd be armpit deep in slobber.....

*eeeuuuuuwwwwwww!!*

rip
-- 
'Damn it Jim! I'm a Doctor, not a bricklayer!'
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: boatman@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Boatman)
Subject: Re: Careful Thoughts (Was:Gutters and Sewers)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 02:03:39 GMT



ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) sums up:

>We men have to be very very careful also...

>>boatman@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Boatman)sez:

>>I disagree here Steve.  It wouldn't be any fun if we were careful!
>>*BigGrin*

>I know you were joking Todd, but believe me...we men DO have to be
>very very careful. Especially the romantic types...it is too easy to
>fall into a fantasy if you are wanting/needing that sort of thing.
>Fortunately for me, I found TrueLove (tm) with my sweet Julie.

>Steve

Your right Steve, I came in on the end of this thread and I guess
some things you should be carefull joking about.  I too have found
the love of my life, my loving wife Mary.  I guess once you hook
up with the right person, you don't have to be as careful anymore.

-Todd
 The Official Detective of the RFA
 boatman@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu


-- 
"I can see nothing, said he....                   |
 On the contrary...You can see everything.        |
 You fail, however, to reason from what you see." | -Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

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