HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeffro@netcom.com (Jeff Rosenfeld)
Subject: filesystem integrity
Reply-To: jeffro@uniteq.com (Jeff Rosenfeld)
Organization: Uniteq Application Systems
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:22:58 GMT


Hi. I am working on an application that needs to be able to guarantee
that certain data has become "permanent." It has been proposed that this data
be written to a database table during the interval it needs to have that
status, but it seems to me that's somewhat excessive. I would like to be
able to write the data to disk using the O_SYNC flag to open the disk file.

I am under the understanding that due to the nature of the AIX filesystem,
it is guaranteed not to become corrupted or to lose files under any
circumstances short of physical damage to the disk. What I would like to
know is whether the same that is (allegedly) true of filesystem structure
is also true of file data.

In short, once I know that data has been written to the disk, can I be sure
that it is just as safely there as if it had been written to a commercial
database table?

If someone can give an authoritative answer I'd be most grateful.
Thanks,
		- Jeff.
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From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: Experiences With Alphatronix Optical Jukeboxes for RS/6000?
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:18:51 GMT

Would anyone have any experiences with those Alphatronix optical
jukeboxes for the RS/6000?

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
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From: tdc0001@dircon.co.uk (TDC Helpdesk)
Subject: Test Message - Please Ignore
Reply-To: tdc0001@dircon.co.uk (TDC Helpdesk)
Organization: The Direct Connection on-line service, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:40:32 GMT


test
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From: geo@george.austin.ibm.com (George Noren)
Subject: Re: Building X11R5
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:06:20 GMT
Organization: IBM AWD Early Systems Support

In article <1993Jan7.144403.3938@ee.ryerson.ca>, iain@ee.ryerson.ca (Iain Campbell) writes:
|> A related question - can anyone tell me what versions of X11 the
|> IBM XStations support, ie does an XStation 120 support R3?, R4?, R5?
|> What about a 130?  Is it possible to upgrade an XStation from R3 to R4, 
|> or R4 to R5, and if so, is it done in software or firmware?
|> 
|> We are getting some older XStations and we are somewhat concerned about
|> these upgrade issues ...
|> 

The version of X11 server that runs on an IBM Xstation is controlled by the
software Xstation manager (x_st_mgr) that runs on the RS/6000 host.  The 
Xstation manager supports X11R3 and X11R4 in versions prior to 1.4 (released in
December 1992).  The Xstations 120 and 130 can run either the R3 or the R4
server.  The R4 server requires a little more memory in the Xstation, but 
it also runs faster.  Changing from one to the other is a simple configuration
change using SMIT (just define a new network type that uses the R4 bootfile, 
bootfile1, and then change the characteristics of the Xstation to use the
new network type).

The new version of the Xstation manager (1.4), when installed with AIXwindows
1.2.3, supports the X11R5 server.  To move to this level, you must update 
AIX and AIXwindows to the newest levels in addition to the new Xstation manager
code.  I do not have experience, as yet, with running the R5 server on the
Xstations. 

-- 

Sincerely,
George Noren

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From: amelcuk@buphy.bu.edu (Andre Melcuk)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Laser Jet III (*SUMMARY*)
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:38:52 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department


   Thank you very much for the two people who helped me. The answer is to get U402104 (the tape (ARGH!!) will contain U402370), install them and use the 'virtual printer' menu in SMIT. The rest works magically. If you then edit the virtual printer to change the d flag (d=a), you can print ascii to the same printer. I also changed the column file (cr:: to cr::\4) as per private e-mail advice. I don't know wether it's necessary, but it doesn't hurt anything.

   I'm almost happy, but I have the following small question: Given a III with a PS+ cartridge, can I can print PS + ASCII when th eprinter is in PS mode (hplj3.ps stream) and PCL + ASCII when it is in PCL mode (jplj3.pcl stream).
Can I print all three from the same queue?

   Thank you for your answers, past and future

      Andrew Mel'cuk    amelcuk@dirac.clarku.edu
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From: Steven Gilmore
Subject: TEST
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 14:59:25 GMT
Reply-To: kgnvmy.kgn.ibm.com!gsapps@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

Sorry this is a test.



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Steven Gilmore                 

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From: butzer@cranel.com (Dan Butzer)
Subject: Looking for company who wrote Reel-Exchange
Organization: Cranel, Incorporated, Worthington Ohio
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:49:39 GMT

I am looking for the company that wrote a tape transfer program for the
RS6000 called Reel Exchange.  Does anyone know the name of the company
and their city and state?

Email responses are requested....   Thanks....

--Dan
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From: woan@soda.berkeley.edu (Ronald Woan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: AIX system process limits
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:09:50 GMT
Organization: Austin School of Hardknocks
Distribution: world
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Try:
lsattr -l sys0 -E

Look in info under chdev to see how to change them.

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From: donath@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Matt Donath)
Subject: Re: wuarchive ftpd on AIX ???
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:11:35 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <19930108.062913.902@almaden.ibm.com>, by russotto@vnet.ibm.com (Matthew T. Russotto):
> In <1993Jan7.182949.9192@news.uiowa.edu> Matt Donath writes:
>>However, I have a different problem.  All of the times in my ftp
>>transfer log are off by about 7 hours.  ???  Anyone know what
>>this is??    (donath@cs.uiowa.edu)
> 
> The transfer log times are probably in Coordinated Universal Time (what
> used to be called GMT).   Are you in mountain time? (MST7MDT, probably)
> 
Yes, I thought of this.  My TZ environment variable is set to CST6CDT,
which I believe is correct for CST.  Does this ftpd look at something
else to determine the time zone?
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From: fsfrick@lerc.nasa.gov (David Fricker)
Subject: Re: last command?
Reply-To: fricker@lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, OH
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:10:57 GMT

In article <9301060106.AA10395@ecnet.ec>, jhidalgo@ecnet.ec (Javier Hidalgo E.) writes:
> 
> Hi folks, please if someone know a command similary to last command for read from tacacs.wtmp and failedlogin files, because last only read of wtmp, and information is good.

Try 'who <filename>'.  'who' accepts (as an argument) a file to look
at instead of the default /etc/utmp.  You may want some way to
reverse the order to look more like 'last', though.

Of course, 'who' doesn't give you all the info that 'last' does, but
it is a start.

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From: moore@cs.utk.edu (Keith Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: what's wrong with sendmail?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:07:53 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Tenn. Computer Science, Knoxville
Distribution: world
Reply-To: moore@cs.utk.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: wilma.cs.utk.edu

In article <jpe.726342361@ee.egr.duke.edu>, jpe@ee.egr.duke.edu (John P. Eisenmenger) writes:

] The problem is in IBM's sendmail.  Most sendmails automatically call ruleset
] 3 before calling ruleset 0 -- this is not true of the IBM version.  Try 
] running sendamil -bt on the IBM and also a Sun -- type in "0 user@host".
] On the sun you'll get the proper parsing, while the IBM will invoke the 
] local mailer with a userid of "user@host".
] 
] >Is there a fix for this?
] 
] The fix - place the following rules at the top of ruleset 0:
] 
] 	R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3			defocus
] 	R$+			$:$>3$1			make canonical
] 
] The first strips the "<>" from the address and the second passes the result
] to ruleset 3, which is what you want.

Our config file *does* have this at the top of ruleset 0.
Any other ideas?

--
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From: umar@compsci.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Prof. A.S. Umar, SC6626, )
Subject: X-interface for mail
Organization: Center for Computationally Intensive Physics, Vanderbilt
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:10:19 GMT

Can anyone tell me a x-windows front end for rn?

umar@compsci.cas.vanderbilt.edu
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From: nsysdbj@acs.ncsu.edu (David Joyner)
Subject: Need help interpreting kernel stack trace
Organization: North Carolina State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:27:33 GMT

Can anyone with a kernel reference manual give me an idea of what was
going on in the kernel given the following stack trace:

> trace
STACK TRACE:
        .allociblk ()
        .iallocind ()
        .ibindseg ()
        .ip_open ()
        .xix_open ()
        05a958bc
        05a95610

This is the kernel stack associated with an AFS fileserver process
that brought one of my machines down this past weekend, and I would
like to get an idea of why.  E-mail response would be fine.

Thanks.

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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Adding SCSI OSDISK
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:17:56 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <C0GCED.IAu@austin.ibm.com> swan@austin.ibm.com (Randal C. Swanberg) writes:
| In article <1993Jan6.105119.1266@yvax.byu.edu>, howardd@yvax.byu.edu writes:
| > 
|    [most of problem description deleted]
| >  
| > Detail Data
| > SENSE DATA
| > 0603 0000 1B00 0000 0100 0000 0000 0000 0102 0000 7000 0500 0000 000E 0000 0000
| > 2000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
| > 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
| > 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
| > 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
| > 
| > Anybody have an idea about what I can do to get the disk to work on the RS6000?
| > 
| 
| Well, I can't answer that question, but just in case it is helpful, I can
| translate the sense data.  The above error was due to the disk failing a
| SCSI Start-Unit (spin-up) command with Illegal Request status, which means, it 
| didn't like the command and/or command block.  However, the command block 
| (starting with 5th byte of sense data) looks fine to me.

The Hitachi drives reject startunit commands unless the drive is
jumpered to not spinup by itself, as I recall from our use of the
drive.

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From: kelvin@thed.uk22.bull.com (Kelvin J. Hill)
Subject: Re: RTS/CTS on RS232/AIX 3.2
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Date:  6 Jan 93 13:02:29 GMT

I think you may find, that the RTS/CTS pins on the socket are not
implemented on the RS6000 box. It's certainly the case with ours.
You may have to dig deep into the 'info' database to obtain the
details but I'm sure they are in there.  It's a 'REAL PIG' isn't it!

I have exactly the same problem......   :-( :-(

Kelvin.

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From: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell~)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: g++ 2.3.3 unresolved/undefined symbols
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:05:01 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: world
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Originator: tmcconne@sedona


In article <1993Jan5.161034.13509@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de>, greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de (Thomas Greve) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.195047.19764@news2.cis.umn.edu> hoberoi@limerick.cbs.umn.edu writes:
> >Hi, I have been compiling a program (that works fine on a sun g++ 2.2.1) but
> >gives the following error on the RS6000:
> >0706-317 ERROR: Unresolved or undefined symbols detected:
> >                 Symbols in error (followed by references) are
> >                 dumped to the load map.
> >                 The -bloadmap:<filename> option will create a load map.
> >__ls__FR7ostreamPCc
> >__ls__FR7ostreamf
> These symbols are part of the Stream class. They *should* be contained
> in libg++. If they are not, rebuild libg++ -- and be sure to have the
> current version: 2.3. If you don't have, you can get it from 
> 	prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/libg++-2.3.tar.Z
> 
> Configure and make it (use gnu-make for it) and install it afterwards.
> You will probably have difficulties with g++ and debug information, so
> you'd better compile it without (CFLAGS=-O2).
> 
> -- 
> 				- Thomas
> 
>    greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de
>    unt145@dbnrhrz1

  The problem is a little more basic than that. I think the problem is that you
need the "fixed" assembler for the RS/6000. Read the "README.RS6000" file in the
gcc-2.3.3 distribution. Here is an excerpt:

    ... call IBM Support at 800-237-5511.  Ask for emergency shipment
    of the rs6000 AIX fix for APAR IX26107.

    ... If you tell them you're running AIX version 3.2, you may be
    told that no fix is available yet.  In fact the 3.15 fix works
    fine on version 3.2.  Talk them into shipping it to you anyway.


    Cheers,

    Tom McConnell
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From: mistry@waterloo.hp.com (Mohan Mistry)
Subject: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/fonts.dir question
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:50:10 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Keywords: AIX FONTS AIXTERM

We have RS/6000 Runnung AIX 2.3. The fonts under /usr/lib/X11/fonts which 
is IBM specific have incorrect specifications

sample of fonts.dir file:
Bld17.snf.Z               -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-ibm-850
Bld17.iso1.snf.Z          -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-iso8859-1
Bld17.iso2.snf.Z          -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-iso8859-2
Bld17.iso3.snf.Z          -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-iso8859-3
Bld17.iso4.snf.Z          -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-iso8859-4
Bld17.iso5.snf.Z          -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-iso8859-5
Bld17.iso7.snf.Z          -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-iso8859-7
Bld17.iso9.snf.Z          -ibm--bold-r-block--23-16-100-100-c-110-iso8859-9
					       ^  ^
					       |  |
				  pixels-------+  +-------- Points

The points field does not really match the fonts in associated snf file.
Usually this field is in the order x10.  Even the font properties are
not correctly set. Either the utility which generated the SNF OR these fonts
were not originally BDF.

This really screws up bitmap font scalars which looks at points field 
to scale up/down.

Question:  Is this fixed in their latest release ?

------------ aixterm use of fonts---------------------------------------

aixterm does a xlistfonts with by trying to match of following pattern:

 "-*-*-medium-r-*-*-20-*-*-*-c-*-IBM-850"


 This is not a good practice since one should match by point not by pixel!

 See  O'Reilly's Xlib programming Manual Vol 1 3rd Edition 
	Section A.1.2 pages 558-559 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hopefully someone from AIX team can be informed about this.


mohan
mistry@waterloo.hp.com
From: houghton+@cs.cmu.edu (Ricky Houghton)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Two headed 320 running 3.2
Date: 8 Jan 93 07:14:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.MfHPNfe00hsCMwIXZf
	<1993Jan8.130110.168@chmeds.ac.nz>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    Can somone offer some help on a two headed 320 running AIX 3.2?

I seem to be missing something important as I can't get X to initialize
both heads. The only command that comes close to working, doesn't work
very well (it crashes the system, well it hangs after it blanks both
screens and then  puts small blip on each screen).

	xinit -P11 1 -P12 2 -wrapx 

Any other combination of things results in the X server starting on the
default screen with the other screen showing no activity.

Thank you  for any comments/suggestions,

Ricky
houghton@cs.cmu.edu
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Password Encryption
Organization: The World
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:48:43 GMT


From: jeffc@magician.larc.nasa.gov (Jeff Cleveland)
>Is there any way to encrypt passwords? I need for my daemon to be able
>to create passwords on the fly.

See 'man 3 crypt'.

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From: howardd@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: RE: Adding SCSI OSDISK
Date: 7 Jan 93 11:48:27 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

Thanks for the replies on how to add the disk.  I removed
the motor start jumper and I was able to use the drive on the
system.


David Howard
Brigham Young University
403 B CB
dlh@byu.edu
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From: dherman@cape.UWaterloo.ca (Dennis Herman)
Subject: Re: Problem with the gated daemon
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:02:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.144916.15389@cs.wm.edu> mark@ga.cs.wm.edu (Mark Raciborski) writes:
>I seem to be having a problem with the "gated" daemon. I have a server with 
>2 ethernet cards in it. One card is connected to a lab and the other is 
>connected to our campus backbone.
>
>After rebooting the server the netstat -r command will show the
>Destination/Gateway info to the lab network. If the network is not being used
>this entry seems to get deleted from the routing table. I then can't boot my
>machines in the lab. My /etc/gated.conf file looks like
>rip quiet;
>hello quiet;
>Is there someway to tell gated not to delete this entry? 

Try putting the following statement at the top of /etc/gated.conf

interface xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx passive; 

Where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the ip address of the ethernet card to the lab
subnet. This tells gated to remember the route to this subnet even if 
there is no activity on it for a period of time ( 10 min I think ) . 

Worked for me. 

Dennis
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From: brent@uwovax.uwo.ca (Brent Sterner)
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions for Tape Backup?
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:41:40 GMT

In article <C04KHx.9A6@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, ewilson@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Eliot Wilson) writes:
> In article <1254@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> ed@balrog.aecom.yu.edu (Ed Geraghty) writes:
>>     We are currently looking to purchase a 8mm backup tape drive for our site.
>>I was perusing  through the AIX FAQ for possible suggestions and saw that 
>>only IBM's tape drive will work. We are looking to backup about 1.5 Gig on
>>Suns and Rs6k. I have to check but I could have sworn that I saw a 8mm 
>>advertised for IBM and SUNs is the FAQ correct? Anybody have any suggestions
>>or warnings i should know being in the market for 8mm drives. 
>>
>>                                  Thanx in advance,
>>
> If your not set on getting an 8mm, IBM sells a 1/4" tape drive which
> uses QIC-1000 tapes, and can store upto 1.2MB per cartridge. It has a
> 300KB/sec data transfer rate, which is 50% faster than the previous 1/4"
> tape drive. When it was announced 9/22/92, it's list was about $2800.

   At last, an item I can comment on!  At least, I can provide another
   (more expensive) point on the cartridge backup curve.  For roughly
   twice the price of the above (I'm in Canada; I have no access to US
   pricing) you can purchase the SCSI equivalent of Digital's TF85 drive.
   (Sorry, I don't know the scsi product number.  The TF85 attaches to
   DEC's (proprietary) DSSI bus; the unit I'm referring to is the same
   with a scsi interface.  I have no knowlwdge of suitability under aix
   or sunos/solaris.)

   The following is based on my experience with the TF85 on a VAX system
   running VMS.  The device is *fast*, both at getting to data and at data
   transfer.  Cartridges run about $50 (?? guess only??) and hold 2.6 gigs
   per cartridge.  Sustained transfer rate is of the order of 2.9 gig/hour.
   Very high reliability, but at a price.

   This followup is purely for the information of readers of this newsgroup.
   I used to manage said vax system, and believe that DEC's product may be
   of interest to some of (certainly not all of) this readership.  (There
   are newer faster versions of this product which I have no experience with;
   claims of 6 gig per cartridge using the same media.  This is a product
   line; the TF85 level is the bottom of the line.)

   Standard disclaimer:  I have no interest in DEC other than in my continuing
   role as backup system manager for that vax system.  b.
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