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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: While you have your books out on Jeff Davis
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:18:19 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <ROOTS-L%92092919440161@VM1.NODAK.EDU> NORMAN%MACALSTR.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU writes:
>I have a relative by marriage.....
>
>My question is: How does Jefferson Davis fit...?


While you have your Jeff Davis books out.. Who were his children and
who did they marry?

One of my mother's throw away remarks -- and I have learned NEVER to
throw away her throw away remarks! -- was that she is related to
Jefferson Davis in the same way as she is to Abraham Lincoln...

Well... I know how she is related to Abraham Lincoln: Her
g.grandmother's sister's daughter (Mary Harlan) married Abraham
Lincoln's son (Robert Tod Lincoln).

The side of the family that I havn't studied yet are the Clarks from
Tennessee. (James) Monroe Clark (b.1832 probably in TN) was a son of
William Clark and Nancy Radner of North Carolina. He had a brother
Thomas (b.1828?) who married Nancy Jane Combs and probably other
brothers and sisters.... so I am looking for a Clark or possibly a
Combs or maybe some unknown other who married a child of Jeff Davis...

..using Lincoln's Law that there is nothing like a well known cousin
to clarify the family tree...

Tom
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From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: RE-RE: e_access to LDS database ???
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 17:25:37 GMT

bill@polygon.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:

>How does one go about finding one of these LDS Family History Center??

I went to the phone book and called the nearest church of the Latter Day 
Saints and asked them where the nearest family history center is. They were 
very helpful and gave me directions.

>Where did they get the information??

Basically, they collect all the data they can get their hands on. They may 
have microfilmed the baptismal records of the church where your grandfather 
was baptized for example. There are no assurances, but one should see what it 
is they have before flying to Ireland to ask the neighbors or something. :-)


> My father (an only child son of
>an Irish imigrant) has decided to research his family.  But I can't
>imagine that our branch of the family tree would even show up in the LDS
>records.  If they have never had any contact with anyone in our family,
>is it not likely that we are not included in their geneaology??

So far I've struck out in finding any records of ancestors in their files but 
that may be my fault. The LDS does not have to have had contact with your 
family to have old records in their files. They simply store them so that 
people may have a chance to find them in a central place.

fred

PS Try it. It's infectuous. 


>bill

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Reply-To:     Achim Kruse <Achim.Kruse@ARBI.INFORMATIK.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
From:         Achim Kruse <Achim.Kruse@ARBI.INFORMATIK.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject:      Re: Ellis Island Exhibit
Comments: To: "(soc.roots-Newsgruppe)" <roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu>
              "VM1.NoDak.EDU!ROOTS-L" at Oct 5, 92 9:26 pm

>
> From the Boston Globe: "Fame, Fortune, and Sweet Liberty," an exhibit
> that dramatizes the European immigration experience to the US, will be
> featured at Ellis Island in New York from now to Nov. 11.  The exhibit
> focuses on the 7 million people who traveled from the ports of Bremen
> and Bremerhaven between 1815 and 1915.  For more information, call the
> Ellis Island Museum at 212-363-3260.
>
> If anyone goes to this exhibit, please tell us about it!

Have been there while it was in Bremen (earlier than anyone of you
out there :-) )

This is sort of a high tech exhibition: You wander around with headphones
that tell you the story to each room (controlled by infrared or so)

There are two characters whose story is told: A woman from Galicia and
a man from Hesse. They tell you about their respective homes, explain
their misery and why they want to emigrate, how they came to Bremen
and what ship they used and then there is a short sequence telling
about their further life.

Since both of them travelled at different times, you also get an
impression of how fast things proceeded in the emigration business
(and it was indeed a big business).

For all these parts, there are special rooms: When you leave the room
featuring the ship journey, you come to a room with wobbly underground,
indicating the feeling when you leave the ship after two months or
so on sea.

This exhibitioin is definitely worth going to, if you want to know
more about how your ancestors came over from Europe (not only Bremen,
since it was basically the same in the other harbours).

But you won't get any lists of emigrants from Bremen (just in case anyone
was hoping for that)

Greetings
			Achim
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From: rlundqui@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert G Lundquist)
Subject: Re: zipped files
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:34:08 GMT

In article <Pine.2.4.54.9209201817.A23117@gidney.oswego.edu> "Christine M. Darb
y" <cmdarby@GIDNEY.OSWEGO.EDU> writes:
>Downloaded the new BK5.1 files today.  In attempting to unzip them had
>problems.  Using Pkunzip the error message  was 'error in zip, no files
>found (use PKzip.fix).  Used zipfix and message was 'no files found, most
>likely not a zip file.  Does any one have some suggestions.
>
>Thanks
>
>Chris Darby

To Chris and all the others who have posted on this problem:

All .zip files are binary (not ASCII) files.  If you are using
FTP you should send a command ftp>BINARY just before your ftp>GET
command.  This will clear up the problem.  If you are using a mail
server or gateway to retreive these files I can't help you but I'm
sure there must be a way.

BOB
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From: steele@m2.dseg.ti.com (Jeri Steele)
Subject: Re: Black Dutch
Organization: TI-DSEG Spring Creek
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:48:56 GMT

In article <Pine.3.03.9209301631.B22796-a100000@abernathy.tenet.edu> Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU> writes:
>On Wed, 30 Sep 1992, Bill Page wrote:
>> Somewhere (I haven't the faintest idea where or when) I remember
>> reading that "Black Dutch" was a phrase sometimes used by
>> Southerners with some Indian blood.  According to the story I

I just received my copy of Stirpes, the Texas State Genealogical Society
Quarterly.  On Page 175 in an article entitled, "The Mysterious
Melungeons" (Dark skinned people that wore beards, had straight black
hair and that many had dark blue eyes found by John Sevier when his
expedition crossed the Appalachians in 1774), is the explanation about
the Black Dutch.  

" A Dutch revolt against the Spanish monarch began 1555 and continued to
its successful conclusion in 1609.  The nation could not field enough
soldiers to defend its empire, and as a consequence, Spain subjected
neighboring Portugal and impressed Portuguese men into Spanish regiments
throughout the empire.  It is more than credible that Portugese soldiers
would desert or defect in Tennessee if the opportunity presented
itself."  [While in Tennessee on a Spanish expedition which explored
eastern Tennessee in 1567]

"As a sidelight, a genelogical anomaly resulted from this war.  A new
race was created in the southern part of Holland during the six decades
that Spanish and Portuguese solidiers were stationed there.  Their
"fraternization" with the Dutch girls produced dark-skinned children
which were the beginning of the 'Black Dutch'."

This is the September 1992 issue.  The above article is by Mr Arlee Gowen.

	Jeri

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From: Stephen.Griffin@bdragon.fidonet.org (Stephen Griffin)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Moderator
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:25:12 GMT

Hello All!

I'm not sure if this news-group is modeated, but I have gated this from Internet to Fidonet. If the moderator has questions or problems with this, Ican be reached at:
jjmhome.UUCP!bdragon.fidonet.org!stephen.griffin (Internet)
Stephen Griffin 1:322/401 (Fidonet)

Stephen

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Reply-To:     "Sharon L Palmateer" <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
From:         "Sharon L Palmateer" <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Funeral Home Records
Comments: To: roots-l@ndsuvm1.bitnet

I, too, have had success with finding funeral home records.  The small town
I needed to do research in had only one funeral home which has long since
closed up shop.  In this case, ignorance was bliss.  I went to the local
historical society library.  They have the Brady Funeral Home records!  I
was able to sort out over 40 relatives and where they last residence was
as well as their parents.  It really saved leg work because the records
also indicated the cemetery they were buried in.

My advice, don't overlook the obvious.  Also, in reference to a comment
last week, I consider this a major success.

Sharon         ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET
From: Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk (Brian Randell)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: legal status of genealogy with living persons mentioned
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:06:22 GMT
Followup-To: soc.roots
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne,UK

In article <3822@randvax.rand.org>, lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln) wrote:

> It is interesting that Noel C. Stevenson, in his book Genealogical
> Evidence: A Guide to the Standard of Proof Relating to Pedigrees,
> Ancestry, Hiership and Family History, starts his first tentence sentence
> as follows:

I have nothing to add to Tom's comments. I just wanted to mention to
soc.roots/ROOTS-L readers who (like me) might be put off by such a book
title that Stevenson's book is really quite readable by non-lawyers. In
fact it is by far the best general account I have yet found on how to do
genealogy *properly*. I just wish that it's prescriptions were followed by
all the people who go so far as to publish genealogies.

Cheers

Brian Randell

Dept. of Computing Science, The University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU,
UK
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:47:32 -0400
Reply-To:     "(Carol Botteron)" <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
From:         "(Carol Botteron)" <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Boy Scout Genealogy Merit Badge
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Recently someone mentioned that the Boy Scouts have a merit badge for
genealogy.  Today I happened to be at a Scout Store, which sells
official equipment and books.  They have a small book for each badge,
including genealogy, ~64 pages for $1.85.  The genealogy book gives
a basic background for genealogy and might be a good reference for a
beginner.  It includes a list of references.

A Scout who wants to earn the merit badge has to do some basic
genealogy work such as making a pedigree chart and a family group
sheet, and writing letters to some sources of information.

Carol Botteron  (aunt of 2 Scouts, SO of an Eagle)
botteron@bu-it.bu.edu
From: Deon.Strydom@p16.f1.n7104.z5.fidonet.org (Deon Strydom)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Brothers Keeper Version 5.1 Available
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 07:12:06 GMT
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In a message of <Sep 25 21:02>, Stephen A. Wood (5:7104/2) wrote to All:

 SAW> A new version of Brothers Keeper, 5.1, has just been released.  

Hi Steven,
Any idea what the changes are from ver 5.0b?

Groetnis (=cheers)
Deon


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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:25:00 CDT
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From:         Carole Leisure <LEISUR42@MMC.BITNET>
Subject:      LEISURE'S LEISURE

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     01-Oct-1992 09:20am CDT
                                        From:     Carole Leisure
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TO:  Remote NJE Network User              ( _JNET%ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1 )


Subject: LEISURE'S LEISURE

I will be leaving October 2 for a much-needed vacation.  Since I don't want
800 e-mail messages when I return, I will be signing off temporarily.
However, I don't want to lose my contacts either.  Anyone requesting or
offering information, please be patient.  I will be back in the office
October 12.  Happy Hunting!

Carole Leisure
LEISUR42%MMC@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
RESEARCHING: Dockery (England, NC, TN, KY), Pitman (KY), Malone (Ireland,
KY), Watson (NC), Fisher (TN, AL), and Leisure (France, England,TX, OK)
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From:         FAC_DBOYDRUS@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Alpha Four for Genealogy

Has anyone used Alpha Four to record the bits and pieces that don't quite
fit --yet.  If so, is it satisfactory.

Dorothy Boyd-Rush
Harrisonburg, VA
From: green@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU (Brad Green)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Vitals files
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:50:13 GMT
Reply-To: "(Bill Green)" <green@plains.nodak.edu>
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Since Cliff has been kind enough to post his ROOTS-L info, it looks like
it probably time for me to do my begging.

On the listserv, there are Vitals files for every state.  These vitals
files contain information on research in that particuliar state, gleaned
from various sources, including the LDS Research Guides, the lists of
genealogical societies put out by Robert McLaren at the NGS, etc.  Each file
has a list of genealogical societies, state archives, vital records sources,
and newspaper columns, along with information on what vital records are
available.

Also in each file is information from Roots members on research in that
state.  That's where you come in.  If you find information out of date,
incomplete, or something that should be there that isn't, send me the
information.  I'm particuliarly interested in contacts with newspapers,
if you've used a paper and had good results, send it along.  I'd like these
files to be as complete a source as possible to research sources in the
state involved.  Send any information, corrections, deletions, etc. to
me at green@plains.nodak.edu, and I'll update the file.

To get the files, you have two choices.  Send the message (subject line
is ignored) to LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.Edu "get GENEALOG VITAL-**" for whatever
state you want, and you'll get the file back by email in a few minutes.
(To get a complete list of files available send the message "/files80
roots-l").  You can also obtain them by ftp by ftp'ing to VM1.NoDak.Edu,
changing to directory "ROOTS-L" and getting the files that way.  They are
plain text file, so give the ftp command "ascii" first.  Note, if you
use the Listserv, there is a space between the two parts of the name,
if you use ftp, there is a period (".") between the names, ie. get
GENEALOG.VITAL-**.

Good luck.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:09:17 -0500
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From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      Re: Scanning and printing out scanned images.
Comments: To: rlm@DRUHI.ATT.COM,
              "(Genealogy Information)" <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Bob:

Reference part of this message:
> Reply-To: "(MesenbrinkBL)" <rlm@DRUHI.ATT.COM>
> Subject:      Scanning and printing out scanned images.

Ref your message, Please tell more about it.

Brand, stock number, price and any other ...etc...
>
> I have a scanner on my PC which I find can pull in some great
> gray-scale images.  I would like to use it to copy all my genealogical
> pictures, but I am not sure what approach to take.  It has resolutions
> up to 400 dpi, but I'm not sure if I should use the extra disk space
> that those images require, not to mention the increased difficulty
> with hand scanning at that resolution.  The images at that resolution
> are bigger than I can easily view on an SVGA, being over 1600 dots
> square.  And besides, a 100 dpi 256 gray-scale image looks great on
> screen.

thanks..cliff
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From: pgdmacdo@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Daryl MacDonald)
Subject: Glenaladale / Borrodale Macdonalds
Originator: pgdmacdo@atlas.cs.upei.ca
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:37:59 GMT


I am interested in hearing from persons who are researching their ancestors
or have information on the Clan Donald genealogy, particularily that branch
of the Clanranald called the Glenaladales or Borrodales.


My ancestors came to Prince Edward Island, Canada in 1806. My great great
great grandfather, Andrew vic Aeneas ic Ian Macdonald married the daughter
of Angus of Borrodale.  Angus of Borrodale was a brother to the Chief of the
Glenaladale Macdonalds.  The latter being a descendant of Clanranald Chiefs.


Daryl Macdonald
pgdmacdo@upei.ca

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Subject:      GENEALOG: New File, swissrsh
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get genealog swissrsh		How-to for Swiss Descent

This 4489 byte ASCII file is available now on GENEALOG.

Contains :    A Genealogical How-To for Americans of Swiss Descent
Info for The Swiss Genealogical Society (SGFF) for Genealogical
information in Zurich




This file may be requested by sending a message to: LISTSERV@vm1.nodak.edu
and only the following one-line of text

get genealog swissrsh

      Please send your GENEALOG requests for files to address above
      and not ROOTS-L.
                           *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *

Depending on your interests, you may receive information by simply sending
the following one-line message to:  LISTSERV@VM1.Nodak.edu

/files roots-L      Complete listing of ROOTS-L files, which includes all
                    the files in GENEALOG, FAQ and FAMILY.

get faq index       Index of the FAQ (First Asked Questions) files

get family index    Index of the FAMILY (Surnames) Directory

review roots-l      Complete list of Names of ROOTS-L subscribers.

                           *   *   *   *   *   *   *   *

 Additional instructions about how to get files from Roots-L;

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 On a DEC VAX VMS system you can use the send command.
      send  listserv@ndsuvm1  index  roots-l
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 Instructions for getting a list of Roots-L subscribers.
      send  listserv@ndsuvm1  review  roots-l

 ROOTS-L Files are also available by anonymous FTP for users on the
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 retrieve the data,  Eg.  GET FAQ.INDEX.

 Please Note:  LISTSERV expects the two parts of the file name to be
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From: JPENCE%ADMIN1@CARLETON.EDU (JPENCE@CARLETON.EDU)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Mayflower FAQ
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:23:05 GMT
Reply-To: "JPENCE@CARLETON.EDU" <JPENCE%ADMIN1@CARLETON.EDU>
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It appears that the Mayflower issue comes up every so often and it might
be a good idea for me to compile a list of postings regarding this
topic. Please send me "privately" any postings that you would not
mind being included into a "F"requently "A"sked "Q"uestions file that
I'll post to the Roots Server. Send me old postings too if you have them.
Thanks,
					FAQ maintenance committee :-)

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From: ck@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Chris Kiessling)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:49:49 GMT
Subject: Mayflower List
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA