From: browder@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Chip Browder)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.demos
Subject: Re: Phenomena egos??
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:54:33 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <1992Nov10.100108.20535@lth.se> d90mj@efd.lth.se (Maarten Johansson) writes:
>Sounds good to me folks! There is just one thing we ought to consider.
>What does an "Americans" chart mean? Does it mean that only Americans 
>are voting or does it mean that only American demos are allowed? 
>Personally I think the first possibility it the best one. If only 
>American demos are allowed noone in Europe will care about the chart
>at all. I also think that since Americans are voting all the American
>demos will have a chance to enter without major problems. I also 
>propose that we ought to spread the chart as textsfiles on different
>boards. I know that you have a lot of different really big boards in
>the US and I guess that the operators will help us as much as they 
>can.  
>
  Well, as we've already pointed out, they're aren't enough American demos
 to fill a top 10 chart! Therefore, I'd also suggest that only Americans
 should be voting. The idea is to INCREASE the number of demos from the
 states, and Canada.                       
 (Hypothetically or maybe pethetically :) the first couple of issues would
 obviously get a poor reponse in the number of voters, however, there are
 a number of BBS's that should be able to help in this effort. I know of
 one, anyway (soon 2 B - Megawatts BBS HQ :). Of course we can also grab a
 ton of votes over internet too (such as mailing vote@megawatts.async.vt.edu
 PURELY for example(!)).

 Furthermore, what classifies an American demo? I cannot name one 100%
 American-made demo, and most Megawatts productions are/will be around 50%
 contributions from U.S./Europe. Not many will be interested if you cut
 off half of their team to be considered an American demo; for now anyway,
 American will have to be defined as somewhat-American :^\

 Why would we limit ourselves to textfiles? I have nothing less in mind than
 a virtual clone of the EuroChart. I think the first few issues must be created
 by the groups/individuals who are most interested. Then if we succeed
 in helping the American scene as much as the EC did the Euro-scene, a
 single group takes over. We all know that most of the work is the vote-
 counting, editing, and coming up with something to say. I think, for lack
 of material, it'd end up looking more like a real disk-mag than the EC.

 I also think it will end up a NON-Euro Chart rather than an American Chart
 because hopefully (as seen), Canda and Australia want in on the action.
 It sounds like Epsilon's Obelisk is strictly a mag, not counting it out,
 but I think we need full collaboration from the (few) existing non-Euro
 groups.
>Another question is what kind of charts we wish to have. I think 
>something like this will be good enough:
>1) Top-ten demos
>2) Top-ten coders
>3) Top-ten musician
>4) Top-ten artist
>5) Top-ten groups
>6) Top-ten American demos
>7) Top-ten American groups
>
  Where 6 and 7 will take a while to fill up. I'd be willing to bet though
 that there are a lot of small, never heard from groups that just haven't
 had enough motivation to actually create anything. Perhaps the AC will
 help to force these guys out of the woodwork. Surely most of them do not
 have internet access.
 You might want to have a separate top-ten American coders, musicians, and
 artists and most probably a top-ten American BBS's. There are a lot of
 American boards representing a lot of euro-groups. To bad there's not as
 many american demo-creators.

 I think you'd see a big difference in a non-euro-chart, because demos don't
 get overseas nearly as fast. Though I am an avid collector of demos and a
 fan of the creative groups, it has been impossible to find some of the
 EuroChart top 10's! It's sometimes been impossible to find the latest
 Eurochart! ;P

>We also need to have a good organistion to make the collections
>of votes as easy as possible. We can first of all find try to find
>a bunch of operators in US who are able to help us. 

 A subliminal request for help. How about some input from the other guys
 who helped start this discussion. Maruku has lost his net access temporarily.
 I guess I am filling in for him(?) :)

>
>Have a nice day!
>

 Doubtful, since I am already late for a class! >B^\   :)


> d90mj@efd.lth.se - Celebrandil of Phenomena - Marten Johansson

                                               RAMchip of Megawatts
                                                  (Chip Browder)
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