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From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: Re: WANTED Open-Minded Asian Woman (from open minded black guy)
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:48:29 GMT

In article 2204@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com, lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam) writes:
>First of all it should be pointed out that the bozo (an4767) in Ohio is
>not thr same AfAm person (an960) who posted the orig. article (see
>enclosed articles from TU and Clare).
>
>------------------------------------ 
>From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
>
>Guess what I found in soc.culture.china. Looks familiar ?
>
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
>>From an4767@anon.penet.fi ()
>      ^^^^^^
>Subject: Single Male (OH) seeks East Asian Female
>Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:04:29 GMT
>
>From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
>
>In article <1993Jan6.161315.1496@fuug.fi> an960@anon.penet.fi writes:
>                                          ^^^^^
>>I am the individual who posted originally, and to answer some of my
>>expected critics, NO I am not the guy who likes techno and is 24 living in
>>Cincinatti.  I am 22, and on farther East.
>
>  Well then don't post from that anonymous site because if you read
>  this group you'd see that someone who thinks Chinese girls are bimbos
>  is also posting from that address, as well as the guy living in
>  Cincinatti.  It looks like the address is in Finland!
>
>
>


Thanks for the clarification. But the following is the original post:

>>> >In article <1993Jan6.142309.11254@fuug.fi>, an3879@anon.penet.fi writes:
                                                 ^^^^^^

Now I'm confused !!!

 
>>> >> I know several Chinese girls.  It seems that all the Chinese girls 
>>> >> that I know who grew up or were born here in America are bimbos.
>>> >> They wear tons of makeup, use disgusting perfume, smile too much
>>> >> (I'm talking about fake and insincere smiles), wear clothes that
>>> >> are too tight and skirts that are too high, and just all around
>>> >> too gung ho American.
>>> >> 
>>> >> I hate them, every time I see one of them I just want to throw up.
>>> >




Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam)
Subject: Re: AA & sports (correction)
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola INC.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:11:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.135116.20389@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.030449.23014@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Frank F. Yu) writes:
>>So far there are few asian Americans making a living out of major 
>>professional sports. It's understandable in football and basketball,
>>for they require strength and height.
> 
>Well some AAs do have the height and strenght.  An AA friend of my used
>to play H. S. football (some affluent Chicago burb).  However he had to
>quit during his sr. year due to some parental presure.  I can understand
>how he parents feel cos as a fb player he could be quite injury prone.
>>
>>And there are so many AA I know who like to play tennis. Is this
>>because of Michael Chang? If it is, I think asian Americans are in
>>serious need of some sports heroes of their own.
>
>I noticed that a lot of AA parents dont encourage their kids to
>excellll in sprot as much as they do encourage them to do well in music.
>I don't mean to generalize anything thing here, just my observations.
>I always wonder in those west coast schools w/ large AA pop., are there
>many AAs playing college sports?  (you folks fr. Cal, please comment).
>
>Michael Chang is great.  There is also "the Satos" in the national
>volleyball teams (Eric and Leanne Sato) and another JA in the women
>team.  She played in the last Olympics but I forgot her name (Hey Peter
>you can help me out).  These AAs could be good role models for those kids
>who
>like volleyball. 
>
>The Olympic victories and the AA presence inspired
>me to pick up volleyball back in 1984.  I have met many wonderful people
>playing volleyball.  However there seems to be a lack of AA participation
>in this sport (at least in the Chicago area).  Is this because of the

fact that most AAs consider volleyball as a wimpy sport?  I
[sorry I accidentally dethe above line ftext fr. my previous post]

>recall reading one article here where some Standford AAFs commented
>about not wanting to date AAMs who do problem sets, play volleyball, and
>listen to Erasure ...).
>I am surprised to hear such a comment especially from Standford AAFs.
>Because Standford has a very good volleyball program (UCLA also).  Those
>Standford AAF (the ones making comment) must be out of touch ....
>Most Vball players have to work hard (ie many hours at the gyms) to stay
>fit to be competitive players.  AAs have to train harder due to height
>(average) disadvantage.  So AA Volleyball players are certainly not wimps.
>(check out those prof. beach players, oh I forgot to mention Lucy Han,
>she is a 5-2 AA and a great defensive player)
>
>So what sports/activities do you AAs out htere play/participate?
>
>Dan
>
>ps:  thanks for reading.  finally get to talk about my favorite subject
From: jimmy@clipper.ingr.com (Jimmy Blair)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Media Stereotypes: The Solution
Summary: A comment on Spike Lee
Keywords: mainstream
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:44:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA

In article <1993Jan8.214040.3646@hspice.portal.com>, georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu) writes:
> In article <1993Jan6.194834.1627@hspice.portal.com> I (George Wu) wrote:
> 
> >>I think it'll be a cold day in Hell before you see an AA star in the lead
> >>role of a mainstream American movie.
> 
>      Several people have already pointed out possible exceptions.  I stand
> corrected.  At the very least, I would consider Brandon Lee's latest film
> to qualify as mainstream.
> 
>      Next questions: how "mainstream" are Spike Lee's various films?
> Certainly, he's been very successful, but are just blacks and the politically
> correct attending his films, or are they generically popular?
> 
> 							George


	Although Mr. Lee is taken seriously by some critics he's
	mainstream artistically.  Fellini (who generally deplores
	the current state of cinema), when asked his opinion
	of Spike Lee, said that he was a very _timid_ filmmaker.
	The real proof of being mainstream, though is that his
	films now show in multiplexes in malls all over the country,
	not just in art houses, as in the days of "She's Gotta Have It".
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Re: Freedom of speech (was RE: anonymous accounts)
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:17:28 GMT

g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka) writes:
: 
: Now that you`ve mentioned freedom of speech. I would like here from any of you lawyers 
: out there that may be able to clarify what a person can or can not say without 
: incriminating himself/herself. 
: 
: 

Ever hear of Miranda? :)  "You have the right to remain silent..."


-chris barrera     barrera@mtu.edu       gorim@irc  :-)
From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: East and South Asians
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:05:06 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article <73336@cup.portal.com> hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam) writes:
>>Religion.  I have the impression that East Asians don't take religion
>>very seriously (except for the substantial number of Christians), whereas
>>South Asians do.
>
>I have Buddhist friends from Thailand, Vietnam, and Japan whom I respect,
>and know many devout Muslims from Malaysia and Indonesia. Your sweeping
>generalization doesnt do justice to these people.
>
>
>>-- Russil
>
>Hassan


Agreed. (sorry if this is useless bandwidth =)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: What about non-black men for black women?
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:15:56 GMT


Well.... what are you AA guys waiting for?

Looks like you've overlooked another possibility...
besides AAF and WF...

In article <1isbskINNic@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.GTD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gabrielle Daniels) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.233851.16741@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>,
>xuyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>>I am a brother from the continent, as curious as ever about all the
>>hullabaloo about brothers going for white girls. I'm wondering
>>whether there is as much fuss about white boys dating black girls.
>>I also wonder why it (white boys dating black girls) does not
>>occur with as much frequency as the opposite.
>.
>.
>The numbers are getting up there, however, there aren't as many
>sisters changing their luck with white guys as brothers are with
>white women.
>.
>As far as heat is concerned, there is no one more jealous than a
>white woman or a black brother when a sisters goes off the
>beaten track.  White women, of course, think they are it, no matter
>how old they are.  They can have everyone else's old man, of any
>size, shape, race or culture.  But honey, let a sister shatter that
>one, and white women get very upset.
>.
>For a recent instance, one white woman got upset when she heard that
>Whoopi was going around with Ted Danson, spouting how ugly she was
>and all that.  Coolly, I said, "Well, don't you know that black
>p---y is the best p---y in the Universe?"
>.
>That skipped her record but good. She choked a bit and said, "Well,
>I knew that..."
>.
>I made it worse.  "Don't you know that when white guys have had any,
>they always come back?"
>.
>Then she opined, "I wonder if my brother has had any one black"
>since he's supposed to be some kind of stud puppy.  I assured her of
>the distinct possibility.  I mean, her eyes were popping while she
>was thinking.  Honestly, this woman was married already.  How come
>she's gotta pull a main artery on this one? It had nothing to do
>with HER.
>.
>No matter who is doing what to whom, I sincerely object to anyone
>dissing black women or brothers to where they have no humanity (or
>value) at all.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: jl52800@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Incredible Mr.Wong)
Subject: HELP...posting 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:35:22 GMT

If someone would tell me how to post an article I saved, I might be able to
share something I found on.....tell me and I'll tell you. =p

Mr.Wong
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:53:06 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <1i844cINN5l1@agate.berkeley.edu> bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
>My point: Asian system IS effective in teaching a few general "rules"
>	of life.  1) It's a dog eat dog world.  2) you're not here to
>	have fun, until you're rich enough to afford to have fun.
...
>American system IS effective in teaching a child that:
>	1) You can have fun and succeed at the same time.
...
>Dare I say that children in AmericanSchools have more fun, but children
>who went to an AsianSystemSchool have a better idea of what to expect
>in the REAL WORLD.... seems like Asian Children get much less oportunity
>to be immature than American Children just because of the schooling they
>receive.... stress does a lot to a child's maturity.... 
>*	Billy H. Chan		<bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu> 	*

Gee, I happen to believe that you CAN have fun and succeed at the same time.
(Indeed, how can you be succeeding if you're not having fun?)  And I question
the importance of teaching our children to eat dogs (figuratively speaking,
of course).  And why should only the rich have fun?  And why shouldn't
children be immature?  They're CHILDREN.

I think the ideal school system is yet to be found in either Asia or America.
One of the most important messages to be conveyed is that learning is
enjoyable and rewarding as well as profitable.

All this is wandering rather far from the original claim of the Scientific
American article, which is (surprisingly) that school in Asia is more fun
than in the USA.
-- 
Els Withers                   email: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.mil
          phone: (410)267-3192 / fax: (410)267-4883
When orbiting particle-beam weapons are outlawed, only outlaws will have
orbiting particle-beam weapons.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: ylsul@athena.mit.edu (Young Sul)
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:47:59 GMT

>[extreme examples of brutality in Japanese-cu schools]
>These incidents are extreme cases; both those teachers
>are in prison (as they should be).

>>That's the point.  They went to jail.

>>By contrast, in Chinese-cu society, "getting beat", "being smacked around",
>>"getting belted", etc. is considered by Chinese-cu people to be "normal"
>>everyday behavior.  They consider this to be a "normal" part of growing
>>up.

Hold on. You shouldn't forget the kind of violence Japanese school
children inflict upon each other. It has been suggested the cause of such 
behaviour stems from being brought up to follow extremely demanding 
academic standards, as well as conforming to a relatively rigid group-
oriented mentality. I don't believe many of those those young hazers
were ever sent to a prison/punished.

As for violence in Chinese society, I suspect Dwight hung around with the
wrong crowd...

Young Sul
ylsul@athena.mit.edu 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: webihara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Wataru Ebihara)
Subject: Re: FAQ for soc.culture.asian.american
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 14:39:00 GMT


> Here's a somewhat revised version of the draft FAQ I posted two or three
> weeks ago.  As before, comments and questions are welcome.
> 
> --
> Frequently Asked Questions for soc.culture.asian.american

Thanks for attempting this FAQ.  I have a few comments or possible
modifications.

> 1.  What's an Asian-American?

I think it sounds a bit better to say "Who's an Asian American?"

> An American of Asian ancestry (Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Pakistani,
> Korean, Vietnamese, etc.).
> 
> Immigrants are "first-generation"; their children are "second-generation";
> their grandchildren are "third-generation"; etc.
> 
> There's often a big cultural difference between the first generation
> (who grew up overseas) and the second and later generations (who grew
> up in America).  Sometimes "Asian-American" is used to refer only to
> the second and later generations.

You might want to include more Asian ethnic groups just to make
people more aware of the diversity of Asian Americans.  Also,
I'm not sure if Pakistan is included in the defintion used in the
U.S..  Does anyone know?  Also, the grouping is sometimes "Asian
and Pacific Islander" American.

Also, I think we should include people who are of
bi-racial/bi-cultural backgrounds.  They're included in the
definition we use at Ohio State.

The use of the "hyphen" is somewhat controversial.  I prefer to
leave it out, since we don't want to be any less "American", but
rather "Asian" is a modifier to "American".  But it's ok to use
the hyphen when it's used to modify something else, like
"Asian-American history, or Asian-American population, etc.."

You might want to say something like...

"Asian Americans are citizens or permanent residents of the
United States (or North America, including Canada?) who have at
least one parent of Asian decent.  Asians are a diverse group of
Asian nationalities that include -- Chinese, Japanese, Korean,
Indian, Filipino, Indonesian, Malaysian, Cambodian, Vietnamese,
Singaporian, Thai, Laotian, and others."


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: paulko@wolf.cs.washington.edu (Paul Ko)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Independent, Fun-loving, Open-minded Asian Woman
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 06:31:00 GMT

Dwight Joe (underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:

: What we have is is unadulterated Chinese-cu bigotry.  But then, we
: already knew that, didn't we?


What the hell does this have to do with me? I'm not Chinese-cu.


: Jinsei no imi wa nan desu ka.                Sister, can you      |   \|  |`
: Shitte itara oshiete kuremasen ka.           spare a coin?        |    | -+-

By the way, Dwight, you've been had. Me and a friend figured out that
any Japanese American with a shred of pride wouldn't do the shit that
you do so 'publicly' and wouldn't pretend to speak Japanese in the way
that you do.

You're Japanese sucks, by the way. I don't know where you make up this
shit from, but this isn't the real thing.

Get a life, and quit making the language look like shit for the rest of us.


Lots of love,

Paul Ko.
From: babar+@pitt.edu (Jonggu Moon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Women Asking Men Out
Keywords: rejection
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:49:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


Here's my contribution to the digression of s.c.a.a. into soc.couples :)

Two women in their apartment. One complaining about how its friday and
there is no one to go out with. She goes on to say that she is so 
desperate for a date she is willing to go out with anyone.

The phone rings and its a male friend asking her out. She gives some
excuse and politely refuses. Hangs up.

Other woman says why refuse him ?

First replies "I guess I'm not as desperate as I thought."


Maybe all those guys who were complianing about not being able to
get any asian or other ethnic women to be interested in them 
really should be more specific and say that they are having problems
getting any asian or other ethnic women THAT THEY FIND ATTRACTIVE
to be interested in them.

In which case they are not a victimized minority after all, but
just another average guy looking for affection.

Then they CAN get a date if they would only realize that there are
plenty of women out there who are interested, if only they would take
a realistic view of their situation.

blah blah blah etc. etc.

And for the rest, there is always the B.T.R. Club.
(Bachelor Till the Rapture Club) hehehehe


- jon

Here come the flames, send in the flames, the flames they are here...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: jpak@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Pak)
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Reply-To: jpak@manute.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc.  Austin, Tx.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:27:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.234929.15860@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.stanford.edu (Dwight "Joe" Pak) writes:
>I'm trying out some new names for my last name to see how it goes over
>with the non-Chinese-cu crowd; comments from those people _only_ are
>welcome.

OK, here's my comment...

I LIKE IT!!!!!

Catchy little name, isn't it?  :-)

Jim

p.s. Dwight, you know I have no brothers in my family, right?  I've always
     wanted a brother.  I think you'd fit in just fine.  You're a little
     off-beat, sure, but certainly not any weirder than me.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: second sensational AA crime in Orange County in as many weeks
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:54:45 GMT


An Asian resident of Orange County was beat up so badly in Laguana Beach last Friday night
that the police took two days to identify him, his age and race.
Although the crime will be primarily prosecuted as a gay-bashing, the LA Times article made
reference to the other sensational murder crime in the Orange County AA community,
and the the different race of the attacker might lead to a double-hate crime charge in this case.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: scc53091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve C. Chen!!!)
Subject: Re: bimbos
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:16:17 GMT

an3879@anon.penet.fi writes:

>I know several Chinese girls.  It seems that all the Chinese girls
>that I know who grew up or were born here in America are bimbos.
>They wear tons of makeup, use disgusting perfume, smile too much
>(I'm talking about fake and insincere smiles), wear clothes that
>are too tight and skirts that are too high, and just all around
>too gung ho American.

>I hate them, every time I see one of them I just want to throw up.

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi.
>Due to the double-blind system, any replies to this message will be anonymized,
>and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned.

Get a life.  I got some sacks here...want some?  And you cry too much...:p
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Re: Wonderful Chinese-American women
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 07:28:38 GMT

jpak@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Pak) writes:
: In article <1993Jan7.024543.14538@mtu.edu> barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera) writes:
: >Hmm, gosh you mean AA women have qualities that aren't generally found in
:                                   ^^^^^^^^^
: >non-AA women such that you would think there aren't enough AA women around
: >for you to meet?
: 
: I don't know about qualitiES (plural), but as for one important qualitY
: (singular), generally speaking, the answer is... yes.
: 

Hmm...it would be enlightening to hear which that quality is. Oh on second
thought, don't say it, or alot of caucasions might point with glee that
they feel the same way and are not weirdos after all :) :) :) :)

: 
: Sure you can call me Jim.  You can call me Dwight if you want.
: 

Um, I wouldn't want to give Dwight that much credibility or you that much
depression. I'll pass up on your offer, but will keep it in mind for later :)

: 
: >p.s. You sure you ain't white?  :) :) :)
: 
: Hmm, Chris, as a matter of fact, you got me again.  You see, I didn't write
: that last post.  A white friend of mine was using my account, 'cause he was
: scared of using that double-blind anonymous system that got several others
: flamed.  I told him, "GO AHEAD!!  NOBODY'S GONNA FLAME YA NOW!!"  :-)
: 

Gosh, people will do anything to hide themselves now it seems. Flames abound :)

: Gee, you can't even say something nice about people in this group anymore.  :-)
: 

Oh, but those were very sweet things you said, and I am sure the ladies 
appreciated the kind thoughts.  :)

: Jim
: 
: p.s. I saw all your smileys.

I saw you saw my smileys :)  You just caught me in an obnoxious moods... ;-)


-chris barrera               barrera@mtu.edu     gorim@irc  :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american