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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Read this if you were living in Kuwait !!
From: maradona@vax1.mankato.msus.edu (Ahsan Habib Khan)
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:07:36 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

Hi,

My name  is Ahsan and I am student here at Mankato State University.
I am looking for anyone who used to live in Kuwait before the war and 
attending any Indian School there. 

If there is anyone, then please mail in me your response. I just wanna meet
anyone who might have been my class mate there.

Thanks a lot.

PeAcE

Regards,
Ahsan 
Mankato State University,
Mankato, Minnesota.
Maradona@vax1.mankato.msus.edu  


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Russia Vying With Britain, France in Military Deal
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:58:41 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: Military Deal India

apnews reports:
           NEW DELHI, India (AP) _ Russia wants to sell trainer jets to
India's air force and has joined a race with Britain and France to
try to clinch the $500 million deal, a defense industry source said
Friday.
           The disclosure comes as British Prime Minister John Major
arrives in India on Saturday and President Boris Yeltsin of Russia
on Wednesday for state visits. Their visits overlap but the two
leaders are not scheduled to meet.
           Although Britain and France have long been in the race to sell
India the aircraft, India could choose Russia because it owes
Moscow billions of dollars in debts from trade with the former
Soviet Union.
           Major and Yeltsin are both expected to outline deals to provide
the Indian government with 88 trainer jets, which can be converted
from simple training aircraft to front-line fighter aircraft.
           The Russians first made an offer last year, according to the
industry source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. He declined
to provide details.
           This is the first time a Russian interest in the deal has been
reported. India once bought almost 80 percent of its military
equipment from the Soviet Union. It now owes Russia as much as $15
billion.
           The Indian government had previously disclosed offers from
British Aerospace for its Hawk aircraft and from the French company
Dassault for the Alpha jet.
From: rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: fabricated posts ("sneaky posts" a la Vijay Fafat)
Summary: Counselling vs cownselling
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:30:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.220941.21236@ncsu.edu>, ssd@eos.ncsu.edu (Srikant Sridevan) writes:
> Hey Jones, don't bring FFT saab (pbuh) into the picture. Unke baare mein
> aadar se baat karna.And once you have,
> shouldn't that be cownselling? ;-)

FFT saab ? cownselling ? Don't let CEO, Rajiv Dighe hear you say such 
things !
Baapre, "Unke baare mein aadar se baat karna", beta.
He was a cowherd. But, now as he has become responsible for all 
the SAMOSA's CHUTNIE preparation, its "counselling" after all, laddie.


Arathi.


 
-- 
See simplicity in the complicated
	- Lao Tzu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:45400 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1887
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,sci.history,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: The SOMA of the Soma Sacrifice
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:44:40 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <C1Dvvv.MqD@cs.psu.edu>, narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes...
> 
>              The SOMA of the Soma Sacrifice
> 
> 
>....kt

	According to Sri Aurobindo, the soma is the ecstasy of our
	self-expression and manifestation. This is the 'ananda' of Vedas. The
	sacrifice is a medium of communication between mortals and immortal
	godly existence. We do sacrifices via our actions to get the fruits.
	For example, without doing work, one cannot achieve what one wants
	even though he is revered by the society. This action is a sacrifice
	in itself. If the sacrifice is in the 'right' direction, the results
	are bound to embarace the karta.

	Taking Vedas in literal sense will lead the aspirant nowhere but
	can provide a critique a tremendous joy or ananda. This is a kind 
	of 'soma'. God is really enjoying the Ignorance through His 
	people who criticise Vedas and any other scriptures. This is 
	probably a pre-requisite for the dawn of Knowledge.

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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Disclaimer:
   My employer is not responsible for my views. Read my views at your 
   own risk.
   ****
   tamso ma jyotir gamaha	   - [Lord] take me from darkness to light.
   shramam vina na kimapi saddhyam - Nothing gets accomplished without work
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mahajan@cs.sfu.ca (Sanjeev Mahajan)
Subject: Address of Times of India Relief Fund: a correction
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:52:09 GMT


sorry guys, the pin code i gave for the address before was wrong.
here is the correct address:
	The Times of India Relief Fund,
	The Times of India Building,
	Dadabhai Naroji Road,
	Bombay-400001

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pjoseph@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Paul Joseph)
Subject: Re: Bombay Riots - An Eye Witness Report
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:30:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.133334.6095@doug.cae.wisc.edu> budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju) writes:
>This is an eye witness account of the first three days of communal
>violence that broke out in Bombay, from Jan 11, 1993 to Jan 13, 93
>by John D'Mello, Department of Sociology, St. Pius College, Bombay.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jan 11, 1993
>
[ gruesome stuff deleted]
  
  Can anything be done to help these people ?
  Be it Hindus or Muslims - some people are really suffering. And this is
  as late as Jan 11th.

  Paul
>John D'Mello
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>-Srinivas				budaraju@cae.wisc.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish)
Subject: Re: Is "Statesman" newspaper?
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:45:52 GMT

In article <wfNJbG_00iUx02SUtC@andrew.cmu.edu> "James J. White" <jw3u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I've found an interesting reference in a 1969 publication titled
>"Statesman" or "The Statesman."  Can anyone tell me if this is a
>newspaper from India, from what city, and if there are copies or
>microfilm in the U.S.?  Many thanks.

 
    "The Statesman" is a newspaper simultaneously published from New
    Delhi and Calcutta. It's earlier name is "The Friend of India"
    which was started in 1818.

    --Girish.
From: venkat@unixg.ubc.ca (Ramesh Venkat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Some of Rajeev Gowda's actual views on Ayodhya ...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:29:54 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <C17MMu.5qE@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:


>unproductive for me and for others. "Perception" is the word!

	Agree that sometimes "perception", i.e., one's view of
	reality, is more important than reality itself.

	But, when you say:

>Though Muslims have been operating within the secular and legal frmework
>of the Indian constitution, they have failed the "perception
>test." 

	Who sets the "test"/standard?  Seldom do we find that the 
	perception of two individuals on any given event (or any
	stimuli) is identical because as human beings we bring in
	our own biases into the interpretation/perceptual process.
	That is why there is so much conflict in the world.  If only we
	could all see the world the same way...

	If the muslims have failed the "perception test" (as you put it)
	in the eyes of *some* Hindus, then by the same token *some*
	Hindus have failed the test in the muslim eye as well.  The 
	widely differing interpretations of the same event (demolition of
	Babri Masjid) is indicative of the biases in the human perceptual
	process.  

	The following quote captures the complexity of the human perceptual
	process:

	"Every perceiver is, as it were, to some degree a nonrepresentational
	artist, painting a picture of the world that expresses his individual
	view of reality." [Krech, Crutchfield and Ballachey (1962), p.12]



Ramesh Venkat
--------------------------------
e-mail: venkat@unixg.ubc.ca
	rvenkat@shark.stmarys.ca	


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sundi@med.unc.edu (Jugta Kahai)
Subject: frequently asked questions list!!!
Originator: sundi@calico
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:26:21 GMT

Can some kind soul please mail me the frequently asked question list that
was posted recently? ( I quitted instead of saving)

Thanks


Jugta Kahai

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kannan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kannan Subramanian)
Subject: Re: Dr. Jayaraman's article
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:21:45 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University



I found B Chandrasekaran's mirror-metaphor reflecting my own thoughts well, if
you'll pardon further mixing of metaphors. 

-kannan
From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE:What is and what is isn't Hinduvta
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:12:11 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

 In response to Raheel Ahmed Khan's rebuttal to Raj Bhatnagar, the header
 for Raheel's article have been deleted, by sheer oversight.

  The inconvenience is regretted.

  - sincerely,

    deb chatterjee
  (a good samaritan)
From: balraj@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Welding/metallurgy Assns - INDIA
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:48:27 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Dear friends,
I am posting this in the hope that someone can assist me in getting some info.

I would like to get the address of any welding/metallurgy associations or
organizations in India. I need to get the member list of such an asssociation
from India. If anyone out there has ANY clues please let me know.

Thanking in advance,

Balu

BALRAJ@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu                   

Balraj V Menon
1826 Missouri St.
Lawrence, KS 66044.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: RHADKAR3@ua1vm.ua.edu
Subject: test
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:05:09 GMT

test. please ignore.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: seeta@eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju UdayaBhaskar Sarma)
Subject: .... phillum revue ....
Reply-To: seeta@eng.wayne.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:51:00 GMT


pEru : dharma_kshEtraM.

actors : divya bhaarati.   (Others are irrelevant, we shall ignore them...)

songs :  Who else ::  ILLayraajaa.

(O.K.  alright.  The movie has yuva_ratna, raami reddy, jaggayya, etc...  all minor actors).

The first song is very good.  Everyone will like it.  The rest are above avg.
They lack palleToori appeal.  And yuvaratna can't dance properly.  So ... ;-(

A worthless story.  A heck of a lot of violence.   But DB-baby is the star of the
show.

dialogues are painful to listen to.  Not one Saalti can speak well in that movie...

I wasted 3 Hrs ( minus 1/2 hr spent on repeatedly watching the 1st song).

So I expect U also to waste 3 hrs of Ur life...

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: seetam@hub.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Uday Bhaskar Sarma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: clarifn on antyaaksharee
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:36:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

This is a clarification regarding my earler post 

I had mailer problems.  And 2 people pointed out problems in
contacting me by pressing `r' for reply on the news reader.

If Ur email to me bounces, and U are still interested (not
frustrated ;-)  send Ur email to the email address below
BYPASSING the news-reader (i.e., use the command - mail)...

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: udumudi@vanilla (u v babu srinivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Project : 'HYDERABADI' Database
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:09:38 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: vanilla.wpi.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Ashish K Mathur (ashish@cs.umbc.edu) wrote:

: In an effort to create a database of all the people from hyderabad, 
: we are involved in a database project. A compilation of the information 
: will be mailed to all of those who have mailed us one-liners.

it would've better if you explained why such a database is needed 
and what its use could be.

-- srinivas
From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Dravidian
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:32:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hello

I need some help with the Dravidian languages of India such as Tamil.
I think Telugu belongs to this group too.

Anyway, I haven't been able to find a book that gives the vowel
and consonant structure of the Dravidian languages.  About a
year ago someone sent me email that some linguist thought that
Tamil belongs to the Uralic language group.

In any case, if anyone who speaks Tamil can send me email
on the Tamil vowels, I'd really appreciate it. I think
Tamil has i,u,a and probably e, and o.  Does it have others ?

I also remember that it doesn't have f, but uses a p for
words such as coffee (kapee).

I appreciate all the help I can get.  

Thank you.  Email will do.
-- 

	mark	

   hubey@amiga.montclair.edu         hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
   hubey@pilot.njin.net               ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:32:35 CST
From: <U53080@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: an urgent call

Hey, guys.  This is a call for brothers and sisters of Telugu Dravidians (gener
ally the areas of Vizag and Vizianagaram districts). Let us be in touch with ea
ch other for our future plans, primarily, in respect of marriage alliances.  Pa
rticularly, the Brahmin community, as its number is less here in States, get to
 know through this channel.
Be frank in your opinions in this regard.
Your brother
Kodukula (Kodak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Re: Makara sankraanti  (Was: Re: Sensational News reporting/ Makar Sankr)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:01:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.041243.27831@cs.wayne.edu> seeta@eng.wayne.edu writes:
>
>We have seen 2 posts (By Munil.A.Shah, Vivek R.Prabhu) confirming the
>celebration of makra sankraanti in gujarat, on a large scale...

One more Gujarati in mix.
>
>I would like to know, what, other than religious (and kite flying ;-),
>ramifications it has to gujarat ?  ANy gujaratis willing to talk about
>themselves....?

For the vague distant memories I have of India, I most remember it as a
time to have fun and fly kites all day. I was probablably too young to
realize any religious ramifications.
>
>I dont think gujarat has been principally agrarian for the recent few centuries...

Tell that to my grandfather. I am sure he will disagree. ;)

Rakesh Patel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: seeta@eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju UdayaBhaskar Sarma)
Subject: Re: .... talambraalu ....
Reply-To: seeta@eng.wayne.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:56:18 GMT

(Suresh Doki) writes:
>(Seetamraju Uday Bhaskar Sarma) said:
>>asalu, rajiv gandhi ninnu coosi gunDE aagi caccaaDu, bomb valla kaadu.

>okavela post cheyyakapothey emi cheyyagalavu? asalu rajeev ni champindhi neney
>ani evariki theleedhu bowsa.!! 

aaDi_ni campTaaniki nuvvEmi kaThina prayatnam Emi ceyya_lEdani telusu andariki.
pakkana nila_baDDaava_Taa !??   aaDu TipEl_mannaaDu...
From: seetam@hub.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Uday Bhaskar Sarma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: on antyaaksharee
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:28:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


This is a clarification regarding my earler post 

I had mailer problems.  And 2 people pointed out problems in
contacting me by pressing `r' for reply on the news reader.

If Ur email to me bounces, and U are still interested (not
frustrated ;-)  send Ur email to the email address below
BYPASSING the news-reader (i.e., use the command - mail)...

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: seeta@eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju UdayaBhaskar Sarma)
Subject: Re: .... talambraalu ....
Reply-To: seeta@eng.wayne.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Wayne State University, Detroit Michigan, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:10:37 GMT


doki, ika nunci scit ni chatta_kuppa_gaa `maintain' ceyyakapOtE, ninnu ......

Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: gtatavar@cs.umr.edu (Giridhar Tatavarti)
Subject: Test
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:18:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.indian
From: akash@sol.berkeley.edu (Akash R. Deshpande)
Subject: Re: ... when western science dwarfs the vedaas ....
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:07:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.025720.27590@cs.wayne.edu> seeta@eng.wayne.edu writes:
>
>In our hindu philosophy, time is something that is ignored, and made irrelevent
>(and that should be the ideal everyone should strive for).  One sees free
>`movement' frmo past to future, and back...

Are you sure? Please study the concept of transcendence
in sankhya philosophy. In its axiomatisation, time, space
and causality are the independent axes of phenomenal
existence. It also introduces as an axiom a principle
that transcends these axes. The study of time may not
have been quantative, but it is certainly not ignored.
There are even branches of indian philosophy (pre-sankhya)
which axiomatised Time as the creator.

Why should time be ignored and made irrelevant?

Could you please elucidate how "guidance" is becoming
indispensable in the study of modern science? Also,
in what sense are modern science and vedas like animals?
(These are sincere questions, though terse.)

-Akash
From: ars0124@hertz.njit.edu (AMAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Telugu Netters - Which movies these songs are from ?
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:30:20 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.


I am just wondering how you could listen to AIR telugu songs from
here...Please let me know if there is any way....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: <EASWAR@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:    Telugu Magazines?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:26:00 GMT

Hi Netters!
I would be grateful if some one can give me information on how to get
various telugu weeklies on a regular basis.
Thanx.

Nyshadham
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: indukuri@eagle.sangamon.edu (Padmaja Indukuri)
Subject: need source code to create windows in TURBO C++
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:12:07 GMT

	Dear netters,
		Can anybody give me information on creating windows in 
		TURBO C++? I got a source code for creating windows in
		ZORTECH C++. But it is missing a header file <disp.h>
		Please send me email to 
		indukuri@eagle.sangamon.edu

		Thanks in advance
		Padmaja
From: ashish@cs.umbc.edu (Ashish K Mathur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Project : 'HYDERABAD' Database
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:02:45 -0500
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: astro.cs.umbc.edu

 
   PLEASE FORWARD THIS ARTICLE TO ANYONE WHO YOU THINK MIGHT BE INTERESTED
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear hyderabadis,

In an effort to create a database of all the people from hyderabad, 
we are involved in a database project. A compilation of the information 
will be mailed to all of those who have mailed us one-liners.

I request to please forward this email to whom-ever you might think is
interested in.

THE REQUESTED ONE-LINER CONSISTS OF 5 KEY INFORMATIONS STARTING 
WITH A SPACE AND SEPERATED BY SEMICOLONS.

These are as follows:
  1) First_Name Last_Name.
  2) Email address.
  3) Your coded educational(India) info (example shown below).
  4) Where, in hyderabad, are you from (Roughly).
  5) Your contact phone number in US mainland.

A sample of the requested one-liner from all hyderabadis is shown below:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
<first.last> <email address>                <univ> <addr>  <contact-num>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Mahesh Bagade;c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com;cbec88;moulali;(317)453-3872  
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Example: How to code your education inforamtion.
-----------------------------------------------
 The coded univ information consists of just 6 characters:

 1 & 2 = school :: 3 & 4 = major :: 5 & 6 = year of passing out.

     SCHOOL                            SCHOOL-MAJOR
     ------                            ------------
O.U. (campus) : ou     |     Civil       : ce        Psychology  : ps
J.N.T.U       : ju     |     Mechanical  : me        Literature  : lt
C.B.I.T       : cb     |     Electrical  : ee        Business/Adm: mb
M.V.S.R       : mv     |     Electronics : ec        Metallurgy  : mt
Vasavi        : va     |     Computers   : cs        Architecture: ar
Deccan        : dc     |     Industrial  : ie        Other major : xx
Muffakham Jah : mj     |     Navigation  : ne
H.C.U         : hu     |     Mining      : ye
Other univ.   : xu     |     Statistics  : st

Please send your one-liners to hyd@cs.umbc.edu .
Your cooperation is highly appreciated.

Thanx,
Ashish K Mathur
From: rum@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (munagala.v.ramana)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: new group
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:45:27 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

In article <1993Jan17.170955.28730@utkux1.utk.edu> () writes:
>Hi,
>     I don't want to see any vulgar mails on this net. What about creating
>a
>new group called "soc.culture.vulgar.telugu" ? All those perverted morons
>can send their articles to that group. With disgust,
>Sailaja.

I agree with you sailaja. With similar disgust.
Ramana
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: bandi@mega.cs.umn.edu (Vijay)
Subject: Re: "Mahchchu-tunaka"
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:17:28 GMT

In <1993Jan28.185154.14673@seas.smu.edu> prasad@seas.smu.edu (Nageswara G. Prasad) writes:


>	To say "for example" in Telugu we use sometimes..
>		
>		"Machchu-Tunaka" 
>				or is it "Manchu-Tunaka"

>	The second one makes sense as it literally means "tip of the
>iceberg". Can someone clarify?

I feel that "machchu tunaka" is the correct usage . And for others,

"machchuki okati" - one for example's sake
"machchuku machchu" - identical copy

s it seems the meaning is more like "in the same image"

-vijay

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu