From: patth@panix.com (Patt Bromberger)
Newsgroups: misc.education,sci.edu
Subject: Dumb school administrators and parents (was: Re: Smart kids (Was Re: Magnet schools))
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:37:50 GMT
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In article <1993Jan8.222319.19498@sequent.com> petel@sequent.com (Pete Lancashire) writes:
>roberts@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Eric Roberts) writes:
>
>>I am not talking about everage children. There are those who know
>>advanced calculus before they ever enter high school.
 
	Some of them can even spell "average."   :-)

>>The interrelational problems between those children and their classmates
>>are still greater.
 
	Who sets the "tone" at the school these children
	attend?  What is and is not tolerated in the
	sense of tormenting other students gets dictated by
	the students or the school administration?

	I must live on another planet because the school I
	attended demanded strict adherence to the rules - if
	you stepped out of line you suffered the consequences,
	'nuff sed?

>Or what about this kid, in a school where (s)he is put down by his, peers,
>and in some cases by his parents, because he would not 'fit-in'. A kid

	And what kind of students allow "put downs?"  Who
	taught them to tolerate racism and/or "your mother
	blah blah blah" sort of snide remarks - and who
	allows this sort of "interaction" between students
	to continue?

>I was a mentor to this summer, (est IQ over 135) didn't want to get good
>grades because he felt that he would not have any friends, and he did not
>want to be a 'nurd and geek' ,his words, Also he had to make a choise between
>basketball EVERYNIGHT of the week or homework, the school (big into
>sports) and his parents felt that his basketball was more important and
>these are direct observations and conservations with the school and his
>parents, not my opion.
 
	Well, you've said it all and laid it all really well -
	the parents and school administrators have already decided
	to hell with academics and it's basketball that's more 
	important - so why are you asking about smart kids?

	In your "direct observations and conservations
	                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	with the schools and his parents, not my opion"
	                                         ^^^^^

	did you mean "conversations" and "opinion" by
	any chance?

>His math teacher was the only one who seemed to care, but she was new,
>and (I can't blame her) didn't want to risk loosing her job. Both his
>history and english teachers were basketball coaches.

	So, Pete, let's not expect our New President-Elect
	Bill Clinton to fix our education system = just
	maybe we have to fix the attitudes and values of the
	parents and school administrators first!

	My dad was a great athlete BUT he checked out homework
	every night and if it wasn't done neatly and correctly
	he tore it up and you started all over again (until you
	did it correctly and neatly) - get the picture?

	He allowed us to play outside after school every day but
	he brooked no nonsence when it came to schoolwork and
	there was hell to pay if a teacher sent a note home
	to my father ** mega sigh **


-- 
Patricia Ann Bromberger                            patth@panix.com
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain. And pick flowers in 
other people's gardens And learn to spit. -- "Warning" by Jenny Joseph
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