From: VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: The Games are Over, and Clinton is Going to Win BIG!!
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:21:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.211450.12577@spss.com> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:

>In article <PA146008.403.719254218@utkvm1.utk.edu>, PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes:
>> In article <adams.719246053@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>> 
>>>VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes:
>>>
>>>>In article <adams.719178972@spssig>adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>>>>
>>>>>PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <adams.719167533@spssig>adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rwojcik@atc.boeing.com (Richard Wojcik,snake) writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you accept that Clinton is going to win, then why don't you tone down the
>>>>>>>>abusive rhetoric a little and give him a chance?  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just like the left toned down all of their screeching during Reagan and
>>>>>>>Bush's Presidencies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Y'know, "They started it," just doesn't impress me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>The issue here is wanting a double standard.  It's ok for the left to
>>>>>screech all they want when the White House is under control they don't
>>>>>like.  But conservatives are supposed to tone down and give the opposition
>>>>>a chance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Typical liberal/left double standard.
>>>>
>>>>    Who said it was ok?  The misdeeds of one party doesn't excuse the 
>>>>misdeeds of the other.
>>>>
>>>>    These people want to be leaders?  Fine.
>>>>
>>>>    They can start by leading by example.
>>>
>>>Of course.  THEY can start.  How about the LEFT starting?  No?  Of course
>>>not.  Once again, double standard.
>>
>>     What the *left* does, is *irrelevent* to what the right.  Whether
>>the left wants to start leading or not makes *no* difference if the right 
>>wants to make a go at it.
>>
>>     It's time both sides quite blaming the other for their own failings.
>
>I see that you have consistantly refused to hold the left to ANY standard
>while demanding that the right follow the one you set.
>
>You are demonstrating my point quite nicely.  Thank you!

     No, you fail to understand.  The left is as guilty as the right
of spouting "He started it!"  However, if the *other* side (I'm operating 
under the assumption you're conservative or some flavor of right) wants
to act like total asses doesn't mean *your side* has to.
     "They're just as bad!" doesn't excuse either side's behavior.

     If you're on the right, you can't change the *left's* behavior.  
However, you can change *you're* behavior.  And since you can, *that's*
the place to start.

     The place for political reform is your own backyard.  All you can 
do is play the game like you think it should be played and hope the 
other side comes around, because there's not a damn thing you can do 
about them.
     If you want to feel morally or ethically superior, *be* morally or 
ethically superior.  Don't wag your finger and say, "Well you're just 
as bad as we are!"

     
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David Veal               University of Tennessee Div. of Cont. Education
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