From: slice@gagme.chi.il.us (Steve Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: What's the role of the Pack Committee Chair vs. Cubmaster
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:54:19 GMT
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In article <1992Aug31.205940.25518@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (LCDR Michael E. Dobson) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.133921.4792@linus.mitre.org> edelheit@smiley.mitre.org (Jeff Edelheit) writes:
>>I am curious how different packs split the work between the committee
>>chair and the cubmaster.  I was just "promoted" to cubmaster, and the
>>formerly ineffective cubmaster has moved into committee chair as a
>>"temporary".  
>>
>>My first concern is to rebuild pack leadership.  This is especially
>>important as the pack has not recovered from the loss of the old pack
>>leadership of 1.5 yrs ago and I'll be moving up to Boy Scouts in
>>March.  I'd hate to see the pack fall apart.
>>
>One thing I've always been taught in Leaders Training is that the Cubmaster
>and Den Leaders work for the Committee and thus the Committee Chairman is
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>probably the most important position in the Pack.  You will notice on the
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Being part of my districts Cub Scout Leader Training Team, I have to
stringly dissagree with the above statement.  First, the most important
position is the Chartering Institution Rep., for if there is no chartering
orginazation there is no pack or troop.

>Leaders Applications that it is the Committee Chairman along with the
>Chartered Institution Representative that approves all unit leaders.  Thus
>it should be the Chairman's job to recruit new leaders.  The Cubmaster
>along with the Den Leaders is responsible for planning the program while
>the Committee and Chairman is responsible for the execution.  The Cubmaster
>is the MC at Pack Meetings while the Chairman presides at Committee
>meetings.

While I won't start (or try to) a flame war.  It has been my experience as
an Assistant Cubmaster, Cubmaster, and now Assistant Weblos Leader, that if
the Packs Committee and Leaders work together as a whole, the program for
the boys is 150% better.  As far as recruiting new leaders, we feel as a
pack that its everybodies job to help get new leaders.  Because one of the
things training has taught me is that people who have never been leaders
before are a bit intimidated by it.  They feel that if they do become
leaders that there will be no help from the rest of the unit.  As a
trainer, I try to give the new leaders a warm fuzzy feeling, that if they
need help there are many resources around to get that help.


>
>The above was taken from a listing of Pack Leader Responsibilities provided by
>our council as part of their recruitment literature.  I don't have it with
>me but can get it if you'd like more details of the various leader
>respobsibilities as defined by my council.
>
>Mike
>Eagle Scout
>Cubmaster Pack 1071, Rockville, MD.
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