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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:12:47 CDT
From:         "TAWANA A. COOKE" <tcooke01@gumedlib.dml.georgetown.edu>
Subject:      fiche available
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The _International Digest of Health Legislation_ fiche has already been
claimed.  Sorry to all those who were not first in line!

Susan Ryan
Georgetown University Law Library
tcooke01@gumedlib.dml.georgetown.edu
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:31:14 CDT
From:         RAED@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Electronic access to EIS: 2 MESSAGES

*************************   1st message ***********************************
I think that having environmental impact statements and/or abstracts available
electronically would be great!  It gets my vote.  Is this only a possibility
if GPO WINDO becomes a reality?

There is a class that is taught here at Western Kentucky University called
Environmental Impact Assessment.  The students, as one would expect, utilize
EISs quite heavily.  Last year I had to call various agencies to request copies
of statements as the ones in our collection were quite old.

The availablility of such a service could only expand the opportunities for the
students in this and other courses.   Patrons from outside the WKU community,
as a rule, don't ask for environmental impact statements.

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Cindy Etkin                              VOICE: 502-745-6175
Government Services                      FAX:   502-745-5943
Helm-Cravens Library                     BITNET: ETKIN@WKYUVM
Western Kentucky University
Bowling Green, KY  42101
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##########################  2nd message ###############################

Before I hear responses, I realize I made a blunder in my message in which
I gave a positive vote for electronic access to EISs.  I asked the question
about GPO WINDO being the possibility for access.  Sorry I read the initial
message incorrectly.  So, let me rephrase,  If GPO WINDO becomes a reality,
this might be another database that could be accessed through  the WINDO?

Cindy Etkin
ETKIN@WKYUVM
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:12:40 CDT
From:         "Walter L. Newsome" <wln@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Status of TREATIES IN FORCE

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
For those who may not have picked up on it yet, there is an
explanation for what happened to the 1991 edition of TREATIES IN
FORCE in Administrative Notes for August 15, 1992
(AN-v13-#16-8/15/92), p. 32.  It appears in the "Whatever
Happened to . . . ???" column.  The explanation is that "The
State Department did not have the 1991 edition printed through
GPO . . . ."  Looks like depository libraries (and the public)
have been bypassed with important government information yet
again!

Walter Newsome
Government Documents
University of Virginia Library
Charlottesville VA  22903
wln@virginia.edu
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:47:27 CDT
From:         PHIL VAN <LB.PEV%ISUMVS@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      NEW BBS A DEATH NOTICE???

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The article from Federal Computer Week submitted today to the
List looks like a notice of the death of the depository system
unless GPO intends to provide free access to the depository
libraries to their new BBS. Does anyone, especially the DLC
members, know anything of GPO's intentions?
Phil Van De Voorde
LB$PEV@ISUMVS.BITNET

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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:23:09 CDT
From:         CSHERAYK@ucs.indiana.edu
Subject:      Another GPO tape service?

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Does anyone have information about the GPO cataloging tape service offered
by Peter Ward?  Thanks for the help.

Carolyn Sherayko
Head, Cataloging Dept.
Indiana University
Bloomington, IN
bitnet: csherayk@iubacs
internet: csherayk@ucs.indiana.edu
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:00:01 CDT
From:         CHAPMAN@LUB001.LAMAR.EDU
Subject: NEEDS AND OFFERS: Local Climatological Data Need and Offer

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We mistakenly received the June 1992 Local Climatological Data Monthly
Summary for Pueblo, Colorado instead of our usual copy of this document
from Port Arthur, Texas.  If someone in Colorado failed to receive their
copy of Local Climatological Data Monthly Summary for June 1992 and mistaken-
ly received the Port Arthur edition I'd be happy to trade.

Bert Chapman
Gray Library
Lamar University
Beaumont, TX 77710
(409) 880-8129 or 880-8261
chapman@lub001.lamar.edu
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:43:29 CDT
From:         lopresti robert <lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Subject:      NHIS CD-rom

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The new NHIS cd comes with software.  Has anyone had luck trying to use it?
I am reluctant to print the sixty page Reference Manual, but it may come
to that.

         THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED HERE ARE SOLELY MY OWN, BUT YOU CAN
                            BORROW THEM FOR TWO WEEKS
Rob Lopresti                                      "Puddingheads should never
Wilson Library                                     grant premises."
Western Washington University                            -Nathaniel Hawthorne
Bellingham, WA
98225-9103                             lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:02:08 CDT
From:         Janette Prescod <PRESCOD@utklib.lib.utk.edu>
Subject:      Binding error Statutes at Large

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
    A patron recently brought to our attention that Volume 102, Pt.4 of the
    Statutes at Large contains the pages for Vol.102, Pt.5. (100th
    Congress, 1988).  Has anyone noticed this?  The title page is correct
    for Pt. 4 but it contains the public laws for Pt.5.  Before I call GPO
    would someone check to see if their volume has the same error.  Thanks.

    Janette Prescod
    University of Tennessee, Knoxville
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:24:35 CDT
From:         cwolff <UA0281@UOKMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      JPRS fiche request

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
did anyone receive a copy of
  JPRS-UPA-90-15?
if so, would they be willing to fiche to fiche or
ill?
 okay, so i have been on a lot lately asking for
favors.....i owe, i owe...
 cindi wolff
 university of oklahoma
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:25:41 CDT
From:         cwolff <UA0281%UOKMVSA.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      Proceedings of the General Assembly, etc.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi folks--
  i have been trying to get in touch with the UN Sales
Office and various vendors to find out just how much
it costs to subscribe to the UN Proceedings Series.
....in paper.  if anyone is currently under such a plan
and can give me some costs and/or leads of vendors/peoples
to talk to, please let me know!
  thanks....
cindi wolff
university of oklahoma
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:23:55 CDT
From:         Ann Miller <FAC_AMILLER%JMUVAX.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: REIS CD-ROM

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

I, too am continually dumped back to DOS when attempting to use REIS.
I'm running a WIN 386 IBM clone so it's not just IBM PS2's.  I'm happy
to hear that it's not me.

Any magic formula's are welcome here as well.

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Ann E. Miller
Reference/Go
uments
Carrier Library
James Madison University
Harrisonburg, VA  22807
(703) 568-6929
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:28:09 CDT
From:         Andrea Sevetson <asevetso@library.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject:      Desert Shield/Desert Storm 3 vol set

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

My library received a three volume set (several months ago) directly from
the Army (the mailing address which sent them is:
	Office of the Commanding General
	24th Inf Div (Mech) and Ft. Stewart
	ATTN:  AFZP-CG
	Fort Stewart, Georgia  31314-5000

Attached was a letter explaining the three volume set of "reference materials
compiled by the 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized) during general defense and
subsequent offensive combat operations of Desert Shiled and Desert Storm.

	"Vol 1:  A History of the 24th Mechanized Infantry Division
		Combat Team during OPERATION DESERT STORM - complete with
		computer generated battle graphics and supporting bulletized
		points of explanation.

	"Vol 2:  24th ... Infantry Division Combat Team Historical Reference
		Book - a collection of historical letters, briefings, orders,
		and other miscellaneous documents pertaining to the defense of
		Saudi Arabia and the attack to free Kuwait

	"Vol 3 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized) OPLAN 91-3 - The victory
		Division's detailed plan of attack rom pre-attack positions
		along the Saudi Arabian border to the Euphrates River Valley
		of Iraq."

So, for all of you out there, who want everything on Desert ......,
this did not come on deposit.

LCCN 92-060115  is the only standard number.  It does have a stamp inside
the cover "Property of the U.S. Government"

Andrea Sevetson
UC Berkeley Gov Docs
asevetso@library.berkeley.edu
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Subject: OFFER: Dup. fiche

 From:  Margot Krissiep
 Subject: Dup. fiche

 I must say, processing fiche shipments is certainly one of life's
 challenges.  On shipping list 92-1235-M we received 8 (yes eight)
 extra copies of Trade leads, products sought by foreign buyers ...
 Dec. 4 (0076-K, A 67.40/2:991/49).  We didn't get A 67.40/2:991/51,
 :992/2, or 992/3 of the same title.  If anyone needs one of our
 dups., or has an extra of any of the ones we didn't get, please let
 me know.

 Margot Krissiep
 Head, Documents Processing
 Washington State Univ.
 krissiep@wsuvm1
 krissiep@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:14:34 CDT
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE%IDBSU@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      last chance

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Last year I indicated the potential availability of the remaining copies
(either complete, or selected volumes) of the Cumulative Title Index to
US Public Documents, 1789-1976, which I was involved with a decade ago.

The last remaining copies are about to go to the dumpster unless someone
speaks for them SOON....winter is coming and I need my garage.

I am NOT subscribed to this list any more, so you will need to contact
me via email at either address below, or at 208-383-0165, or at the number
below.  All phones have voicemail.

dan

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* Boise State University                                                    *
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:17:18 CDT
From:         SMHAUS00@UKCC.uky.edu
Subject:      1991 Treaties in Force

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
There is a note in the "Whatever Happened To?" section of the August 15th
Admin. Notes regarding the 1991 Treaties in Force.  It states that the State
Department did not have the 1991 edition printed through GPO and did not provid
e copies to depository libraries!
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:08:51 CDT
From:         ROAKLEY%GUVAX.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Subject:      FEES TO BE ABLE TO USE DEPOSITORY ITEMS

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi guys--

  I  just got back on the list after vacation so you all may have
discussed this already but I doubt it.

  You all may want to check out the latest issue of Admin Notes (mine
arrived yesterday (dated Aug 15).  On pp 14-15 there is an article
about offering the U.S. Code on CD-ROM.  There are at least three
things of interest here.

  First, the CD is not being offered on its own, but only as an
alternative to paper.  (You can't have both; you must choose.)  The
Depository Library Council has expressed its opinion most clearly that
a CD product is not the equivalent of a paper product for a whole
variety of reasons.  What does everyone else think about this one.

  Second, In order to use the new CD product, you have to use some
software that is included on the disk.  But, catch this, the license
fee for the software is being passed on to the library!  It's not much
($10), but still it seems a little strange that the information is
being provided "free" but to use the information depository libraries
have to pay.

  Third, the cost goes up if you want to load the information on a
network--potentially as high as $65.  The GPO copies will all be
standalone copies; if you want to put it on a network the library is
responsible for making the arrangements with the software vendor.

  I thought the whole point of the depository program was to make the
information available free.  If this can be done at $10, why not at
$25, $100, or more.  Am I wrong or does this seem like a way for the
software vendor to make a painless potential $140,000?

  Am I off base or does something seem wrong here?  Can this be legal?

Bob

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  Robert L. Oakley (Bob)            PHONE:      (202) 662-9160
  Georgetown Univ. Law Library      FAX:        (202) 662-9202
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:22:09 CDT
From:         RAED@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject:      electronic DOE -- 3 messages

******************************1st message******************************

Our patrons have not yet requested Environmental Impact Statements,
but living in an area currently being call "big tumor country" by
some, I feel that concern about the environment will be increasing.
I think having EIS abstracts online would be a wonderful way for
those of us not familiar with them to begin to judge their usefulness.

Lori Smith
Government Documents Librarian
Southeastern Louisiana University

***************************2nd message***********************************

Subject: Electronic DOE - EIS

There is an enormous demand for Environmental Impact Statements & Environmental
Assessments here at UCSB.  A professional school of environmental studies will
be making its debut here soon -- so demand should increase.  Electronic access
to abstracts of EIS/EAs would be very useful.

Rosemary Meszaros
UC Santa Barbara
LB10gove@ucsbuxa.bitnet

*****************************3rd message************************************

Yes, there is demand here for Environmental Impact Statements and Environmental
Assessments. And I would find it EXTREMELY useful to have the Abstracts and
notices available electronically. I worry, tho', about information/resource
poor libraries without hardware etc. to access the Federal Electronic
Dissemination Service.

Garet Nelson
Samuel Read Hall Library
Lyndon State College
Lyndonville, VT 05850
Nelsong@vscnet.bitnet

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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:42:21 CDT
From:         lopresti robert <lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Subject:      FDL Bulletin Board

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I know there have been messages of govdoc-l about the Bulletin
Board and I guess I haven't been reading them carefully enough.  I
just got on and discovered a whole lot of material has been added -
but we can't read it or download it without opening an account and
paying for it.  Mucho depressing.  Is this the wave of the future?

Another good question is why the software is so bad.  It's like
slogging through molasses to get through it.  The Census BB software
is crystal clear by comparison (and I don't mean that as
damning with faint praise...the Census BB is pretty good).

NO ONE'S OPINIONS BUT MINE............................
Rob Lopresti                          "There's too many strong to do nothing
Western Wash U.                        that's wrong and not enough strong
Bellingham, WA                         to do right."
98225-9103                                                  -Dave Gordon
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:19:06 CDT
From:         ALAN ZOELLNER <AFZOEL%WMVM1@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      world conflicts

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

The person who inquired about world conflicts may be referring to
"Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798-1989" a
Congressional Research Service study prepared for Congress and reprinted
in the Congressional Record, January 3, 1991, beginning at p. S14.


Alan Zoellner                      Phone:  804-221-3064
Documents Department               Fax:    804-221-3088
Earl Gregg Swem Library            Bitnet: afzoel@wmvm1
College of William & Mary
P. O. Box 8794
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:56:15 CDT
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 From: Walt Stubbs
 Subject: Autographics/GDCS

 The problem with the Autographics display of the wrong sudocs no.
 apparently lies with Autographics and not GPO.  If you will look
 at an OCLC display you will see that the correct sudocs no. is the
 one nearest the 245 field.  See OCLC # 8620547 for an example.

 Autographics needs to get their act together on this.

 Walter Stubbs
 Southern Illinois University
 Carbondale, Il 62901
 AXVSCWS@UICVMC  (618) 453 2708
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Subject:      GPO/EBB

 Subject: GOP EBB

 I am glad that Steve and Bob reminded us that we should applaud the
 GPO's initiative in adding more information to the Electronic Bulletin
 Board. The only problem seems to be communication - it would have been nice
 for us to know how quickly plans were developing. Our stance must be to
 assume that of course we will have access to these new parts of it. I hope
 it will encourage depositories who have not yet begun to use the EBB to
 get acquainted.
    I talked to Gil Baldwin at GPO this morning. He said that the September 15
 AdNotes will be devoted to information about the enhancements to the EBB.
 Let's hope it gives us access to all the good stuff, and also tells us how to
 encourage other agencies to get involved.
    If you look at the EBB menu right now, you will see that all sorts of
 new services are appearing on the menu. Most of them are not actually
 loaded yet - just menu items with no files. But that seems to be the way
 these things always develop, and we should be encouraging this increased
 access. If eventually government information were so widely available that
 every citizen could get it, and didn't need to go to depositories at all,
 would that be so bad?
    If you watch the EBB, you will be able to get that 9/15 issue of AdNotes
 before it comes in a box, but it isn't there yet. Stay tuned...

 Julie Wallace

 Julia F. Wallace, Gov. Pubs. Library      Voice: (612) 626-7520
 409 Wilson Library, U of MN                 FAX: (612) 626-9353
 309 19th Avenue South                     Bitnet: J-WALL@UMINN1
 Minneapolis, MN 55455         Internet: J-WALL@vm1.spcs.umn.edu
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:40:50 CDT
From:         lopresti robert <lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu>
Subject:      missing treaties

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
The Aug 15 issue of Administrative Notes reports that 2 publications
of the Treaties and other International Acts series will not be sent to
depositories (page 32).

	They are # 11123 and 11131.

Does anyone know what the subject/title of these two publications are?

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Western Washington University                             -Walt Frazier
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