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From: reynard@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (John Reynard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Elster to DL?????
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:05:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science


niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.040049.4911@pica.army.mil> skitchen@pica.army.mil (D. Scott Kitchen (CCAC) <skitchen>) writes:
>>In <1992Apr13.160113.19920@eng.umd.edu> golob@eng.umd.edu (Laurence Golob):

>>>Does anybody know the Mets plans concerning Kevin Elster?  The
>>>addition of Schofield coupled with Kevin's weak throw yesterday,
>>>(attempting to turn a quick double play off of a bunt) indicates to me
>>>that he is headed for the DL. Is Pecota headed to short (how is he
>>>defensively), Magadan back to third and Schofield to a back-up roll,
>>>or will they be content to give up some hits for a better glove?

>>Well, I wish I could say I knew what was going to happen to Elster
>>(he's on one of my rotisserie teams, so I have a bit of a stake in
>>his future :), but I honestly don't know.  Tonight, Schofield
>>started for the Mets after arriving only 20 minutes before game
>>time.  And Pecota started at third, so it looks like they're going
>>with defense until the bats heat some.

>And I have to say that I don't understand this trade at all.  Not that
>Julio Valera is going to be great or anything, but why would you trade
>him for Schofield?  This seems to be just like the Charlie O'Brien trade 
>-- trading a pitching prospect for an almost useless player that you could 
>get for free.  I mean, Alvaro Espinoza was just released; he's available
>for nothing.  Why would you give up a pitcher to get Schofield, when
>Espinoza is almost as good (bad)?  If you're going to make a trade, pick 
>up a prospect or a GOOD veteran; not Dick Schofield.
>-- 
>David M. Nieporent              |ALEast 92: 1.Baltimore 2.Boston 3.Toronto
>niepornt@phoenix.princeton.edu  |4. Detroit 5.Milwaukee 6.NY 8.Cleveland
>"Baseball stathead, and card-carrying member of the ACLU.  And proud of it."

Maybe the Mets realized they needed defense so they got the guy who next to
Ripken was the best fielding SS in the entire league.  So what if he can't
hit real well he can field, something the Mets could use real badly.
John
Go Expos
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: PA113718@utkvm1.utk.edu
Subject: Re: Biased announcers
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:58:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.164723.1053@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>
maverik@nighthawk.lerc.nasa.gov (Bill Haller) writes:

>I agree totally with Gary about Ken Harrelson!! He makes me want to turn
>the sound down.  Tom Pacierok is not nearly as bad.  I know many White Sox
>fans will disagree.  I don't think I would mind quite as much if made his
>"grab some bench" comment every time a White Sox player struck out.
>
>      _________________________________________________________
>     |                                                         |
>     |                    WILLIAM J. HALLER                    |
>     |                NASA LEWIS RESEARCH CENTER               |
>     |                     CLEVELAND, OHIO                     |
>

As a White Sox fan, I happen to agree with you completely.  Harrelson's
announcing style is the worst sort of cloying garbage that passes for
reporting.  Certainly he isn't alone among announcers who cover just one
team, but he must be the sorriest example of homerism I've seen.  Besides,
bringing him back to announce the Sox games after he almost ran the team
into the ground (and right out of town)  is like CBS hiring Richard Nixon
to cover politics.

        Tom G.
        pa113718@utkvm1.utk.edu
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Fielder will win the Triple Crown
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:59:41 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr5.143757.3699@gw.wmich.edu> x90townsen12@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.195957.3871@island.COM>, don@island.COM (Don Hermes) writes:
>> Subject line says it all. 
>> After dropping 20 pounds, he'll get a couple of leg hits every month 
>> and maybe even steal a base or two.
>> Anyway, he'll hit .320 with 44 HR and 132 RBIs
>> 
>> don
>> don@island.com
>
>Hey!  There are Tiger faithful out there!
>If anyone can ever win the triple crown agian, it'll be my man Cecil!

Good joke.  Fielder never hit .300 in the minors, has a career high
full-season batting average of .277, and all of the sudden he's going to
win the batting crown at age 28.  In the words of Jim Bouton, "Yeah, sure."
-- 
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1307 E 60 St, #109 +  is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in
U o' C Law Skool   +  color and content according to the circumstances and
Chi, IL 60637      +  the time in which it is used."  --  Holmes
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Biggio
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:40:23 GMT
Organization: A Slightly Warmer Place Than Dave Kirsch's Winter Wonderland

In <0dvAieC00UhW89hLRC@andrew.cmu.edu> King-Han Yao <ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Can someone please inform me why/when/how Biggio became a second baseman?

The Astros felt that he wasn't very good at throwing out baserunners, and
that his physical condition/offensive production would be better at second
base than at catcher.  They may be right on both counts, but overall I just
don't see that it will do the team any good - its real hard to find a good
hitting catcher, and Biggio was fine defensively other than his arm.  Still,
we'll see what happens in the long run.   

>I've never heard of another case where a catcher transformed into a
>second baseman.

Probably that's because its never happened before.

Greg 



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Whitestone NY 11357          (Insert your favorite baseball moment here)
From: jimdean@bnr.ca (Jim Dean)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Hey, Cardinal fans!
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:27:36 GMT
Reply-To: jimdean@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Originator: jimdean@bcrks81


This is not a "WOOF WOOF my team is better than your team" post.
(Although I must say how much I admire your GM...not!)  Rather, this
is the story of what we used to do to our local Cardinals fan.

When I was 11, living in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a family from St. Louis
moved into the house across the street. They had a boy my age who was
a huge Cardinal fan. I was a huge Expos fan and given that this was
1973, I didn't have to much to woof about. (Still don't! :-) Cedric
(now I ask you, what kind of a name is Cedric for a kid? Probably the
kind of name every Cardinals fan would have) was really obnoxious
about how great the Cardinals were, and it became very easy to become
a Card-hater, (which worked out very well during a couple of trips to
Chicago when I was older...but I digress).  Finally, as neighbourhood
bully it was up to me to do something constructive about the Cedric
problem.  Whenever he'd start up about the Cards we'd push him to the
ground and make him whistle or sing the Canadian National Anthem.

I moved away about a year later, and the last I heard of Cedric he was
in New Orleans and wearing dresses in his spare time. (Probably still
a Cards fan, too.)

So all you Cards fans starting the r.s.bb Cardinal Club, please
understand the consequences of Card-woofing in my neck of the woods.

By the way: Huge smilies here!!!  As long as you have Torre and
Maxvill, you are to be pitied, not scorned.  Besides, as I matured I
relized that the real teams to hate were 1. Mets 2. Dodgers (can you
say "Blue Monday"?) and of course, 3. Yankees. And any team with
Rickey Henderson.

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From: "Stephen C. Miller" <stcmille@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: MATT YOUNG TOSSES NO-HITTER, LOSES 2-1
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:19:21 -0500

In article <1992Apr12.213136.19361@midway.uchicago.edu> clmn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.210321.28874@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler) writes:
>>
>Unfortunately, this was NOT a no-hitter under the new "improved" rules.  Since
>the home team (Indians) did not have to bat in the bottom of the ninth, Young
>only pitched eight innings.  Not enough to qualify as a no-hitter any more.
>
>Personally, I think this stinks.
>
I think this stinks personally - and IMpersonally!
-- 
--------------------
=Steve Miller	 		    stcmille@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
		(Former rock star turned grad student)
  Happyhappy joyjoy happyhappy joyjoy happyhappy joyjoy happyhappy joyjoy
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From: marwood@qucis.queensu.ca (Simon Marwood DSC REP)
Subject: Ack-man demoted
Keywords: Deep, BBDDD, Acker
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 16:05:22 GMT


Hey, did everyone miss this, or has interest in everyone's fav deep pitcher
gone away? (Or is my news server screwed up?)

Anyway, Jim Acker was outrighted to Seattle's AAA club earlier this week,
which I think is in Calgary. This is probably *real* bad news for us
here in Ontario, as we thought we were safe from getting hit by Acker-hit
balls when he left Toronto. <sigh>

Simon

-- 
Simon Marwood					
DSC Chair
Computing and Information Science Department
Queen's University
From: kwinkler@pbs.org (The Axe Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Glove errors v. throwing errors
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:22:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: pbs.1992Apr9.112233.15775
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Apr7.140336.1@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca>, palmer2@vaxr.sscl.uwo.ca (The Econoclast) writes:
> errors. Sometimes they have nothing to do with range or getting to the
> ball,  and they often lead to extra bases (e.g. overthrows of first
> usually allow a runner to take 2nd, catchers' overthrows of 2nd on
> steal attempts often allow a runner to take 3rd, etc.)
> 
> 	Now I know and realize that throwing errors are sometimes
> Glove errors on batted balls? hardly worth worrying about. But
> throwing errors may be costly and should be distinguished from the
> former.

But isn't there also a difference between a 3Bman taking a routing grounder
and throwing into the dugout or making a barehand pickup-n-throw on 
a bunt that skips in the dirt?  You still face the same problem
with different errors, although admittedly not as much as fielding
errors.

						----Ken Winkler
						    (kwinkler@pbs.org)

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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: A.L. Shortstops (was something else)
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:58:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.130505.7544@cbnews.cb.att.com> dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott) writes:
>
>While Espinoza is hardly the second coming of Honus Wagner, he was probably
>in the top half of AL shortstops in terms of over all value last year.  Why
>Cleveland was able to sign him to a minor league contract, while other teams
>who should be desparate passed on him, is sort of strange.

Top half of AL shortstops?  That I would doubt.  His defense is above
average if you go by rep, a 4.95 range factor if you happen to like
that particular stat (which places him sixth out of twenty six regular
shortstops last year).

But his offense is matched by few.  In 1990, he had a .532 OPS.  In
1991 he managed a .626 OPS.  His career *high* was .633 in 1989.  His
career average is .595.  He has no speed, no power, hits for a
mediocre BA, and doesn't walk.  Not even Manny Lee is less valuable
with the bat over his career!  Not even Alfredo Griffin is any worse!
Fermin is the only regular shortstop I can find with a lower career
OPS.

With a rep of "good range but erratic arm", a totally limp bat, and
no "intangibles" in his favor, why would anybody want Espinoza?

Cheers,
-Valentine
-- 
"Red Sox all the way in '92!"	tedward@cs.cornell.edu
From: niepornt@fish.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Bucs after 6
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:24:22 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In <QduAzhO00Vom8H50Vp@andrew.cmu.edu> Amit Likhyani <al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu>:

[Lots deleted]

>What more can you say about Barry Bonds?  Unbelievable.  He may be the
>closest thing to a triple crown threat in the NL.

Yes, or maybe Will Clark.

>I would try to work out a deal with the Cubs for Boo Boo and if that
>doesn't work, King.  The guy I would try to get is Chuck McElroy and if
>that doesn't work, any good prospect they have.

I admit, the Cubs aren't noted for intelligence, but why would they do
this?  Buechelle is not very much better than Salazar, really, (not
several million dollars better, anyway) and King is worse.  

>Next. I would try to trade Lind to Baltimore for Arthur Rhodes and if
>that doesn't work, any decent prospect.  Garcia takes over at second.  I
>don't think you lose anything and save $2 million.  Lind is an offensive
>black hole.

This IS a joke, right?  The Orioles already have a good field no-hit
second baseman.  Why in hell would they trade an EXCELLENT pitching
prospect (check out that K/inning ratio) for Jose Lind, who is a year
OLDER than Billy Ripken and *4* years older than Juan Bell?

>The Pirates have been pretty good at getting pitchers to the majors
>(Tomlin, Belinda), but outside of Bonds, have been a little slow with
>position players.  I hope they don't try to make Young rot at AAA so
>they don't have to protect him in the expansion draft or to save face in
>the Boo Boo boo-boo.

>As it stands, I would leave Beuchele and Lind unprotected in the
>expansion draft.  This free 2 spots to protect younger players, gives
>Garcia and Young a chance to play and save 4.5 million a year at least.

-- 
David M. Nieporent              |ALEast 92: 1.Baltimore 2.Boston 3.Toronto
niepornt@phoenix.princeton.edu  |4. Detroit 5.Milwaukee 6.NY 8.Cleveland
"Baseball stathead, and card-carrying member of the ACLU.  And proud of it."
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: What do the numbers mean?
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:55:00 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <167C66791.O1DOUG@AKRONVM.UAKRON.EDU> O1DOUG@AKRONVM.UAKRON.EDU (Doug Miller) writes:
>3). 56   - Mr. Coffee's brewing er hitting streak - longest in pro ball.
>           He has the minor league record of 63 for the S.F. Seals.

I thought his San Francisco record was 67.
-- 
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1307 E 60 St, #109 +  hat."  -- District attorney explaining Marc Cienkowski's
U o' C Law Skool   +  murder with bow and arrow of Michael Klucznik in
Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Camden Yards-First Home Run
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:54:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr16.185401.15747
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, kost@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Ken Kost) says:

>    Being a Baltimore Fan,I'd like to inform everyone that the first home run
>hit at Camden Yards was Sorento of the Cleveland Indians in the second day of
>the season! Can anyone tell me who got the first base hit at The Yard?

Paul Sorrento on Monday April 6th...


-- 
          JOEL TSCHERNE - Internet: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.edu 
=============================================================================
             "We always earned our money the old-fashioned way: 
                  We beat people for it." --Paul Ellering
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: So long for a while...
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:44:53 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

Due to the confluence of a number of mostly good things,
(conference and journal papers all accepted)
I am going to hit the 'u' key after I send this.  Happy
opening day, I've got my All-Star game ticket & my wife
says I can watch weeknight games on TV...  sec 29, row 3,
seat 2 for most weekday day games.  If I get all the damn
papers written I might be back after the all-star break
& might lurk now and then...


Dave


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From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: LENNY DYKSTRA BREAKS WRIST
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:29:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

I can't believe it. Lenny Dykstra was hit by a pitch in the first inning.
He finished the game (scored twice) but after the game it was determined
that he has a fracture in his wrist. His status has not yet been determined.

The injury according to Tug McGraw, a now a sports reporter on WPVI Channel 6
in Philadelphia: (He showed the bone with a skeleton's wrist, I'm going to
try to describe) There are two bones that make up the forearm that end at the
wrist. Lenny fractured (different from a break I guess) a knob on the end of
the outer bone. On one hand, the fact that he finished the game indicates
that it may be a minor injury. But on the other hand Von Hayes fractured the
same bone about an inch closer to the elbow and was out 1/2 a season.

As I said, no word on how long, if at all, Lenny will be out.

pete clark jr.
att!hos1cad!seth
From: mwr@tridom.uucp (Mark Reardon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Another HR Trivia question
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:41:38 GMT
Reply-To: mwr@tridom.uucp (Mark Reardon)
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia

In article <1992Apr4.002503.1754@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
|> 
|> Only slightly better are questions like "Which Cubs player was the son of
|> the original host of The Hollywood Squares?"
|> 
Pete LaCock (spelling?), son of Peter Marshall?
 Do I win?

|> -- 
|> Ted Frank          + "A word is not a crystal, transparent and unchanged, it
|> 1307 E 60 St, #109 +  is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in
|> U o' C Law Skool   +  color and content according to the circumstances and
|> Chi, IL 60637      +  the time in which it is used."  --  Holmes
                                                             ^^^^^^^^ 
                                            Son of Sherlock?

Mark Reardon (mwr@eng.tridom.com)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Sox beat Phillies at RFK
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 02:37:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.021244.8150@wam.umd.edu> warrior@wam.umd.edu writes:
>After seeing this game, even with 8th row behind the plate seats, I have  
>come to the conclusion that RFK is a terrible place to see a ballgame.   
>Granted two days ago i saw the Mets/O's at Camden Yards, I still think RFK  
>is the worst of the eight pro stadiums I've been to.
>	Just my .02

Well, as one who grew up going to ballgames there, fuck
you^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H let me point one thing out!  8-)

The stadium *used* to be convertible; i.e., the lower-deck seating could
be moved to make a baseball or a football stadium.  I believe they
haven't done this in recent years, there being too few baseballgames 
in any season to make it worthwhile.  

Or DID they convert it?

Roger
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Overshadowed By Fate Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: LA Bashing (was: re: Parking Lots...)
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:53:17 GMT
Organization: Henny Youngman Wannabes, Ltd. [Tim Turner Division]

(Timothy "I gotta millyun of 'em!" Turner) writes:
>|> Wait.  I am a loyal Dodger fan.  It is true that it's sad to see people
>|> leaving a game in the 7th inning just so they can beat the traffic.  But
>
>Are these all fans in general, or just employees of the LAPD?

YES!  I love it.  David Kirsch, tell Tim what he's won...

But seriously folks....

I just flew in from Vegas, and Boy!  Are my arms tired!

Two guys walk into a bar.

You'd think one of them would've ducked....

For our next act....

Greg Spira and Tippi, the Polka-ing Sloth!

Whee...I love this board...




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From: dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Galaraga - Gone (5-6wks)
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:00:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr9.010726.17317@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>
>Maybe I'm falling for Hudler the same way everyone else is, but is this
>fair?  Hudler has to be one of the hardest playing guys I've ever seen in a
>uniform.  

Let's put it this way: I can (and *would*) play just as hard as Rex Hudler.
This is *not* (repeat, NOT) a good reason to have me on your team, even in
slow-pitch softball.

I'll take a lazy Darryl Strawberry or Barry Bonds or Kevin Mitchell over a
fierce, competitive Dan Gladden or Rex Hudler any day of the week, and twice
on Sunday (twi-night doubleheader).  And I'll win a lot more games than anyone
who would do otherwise.


-- 
          David M. Tate            |"The man who hath no music in himself
     dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu       | Nor is not moved by concord of sweet sound
  A poem should be dumb, / As old  | Is fit for treason, stratagems, and spoils
 medallions to the thumb.-MacLeish | 	Shakespeare, "Merchant of Venice", A.V
From: dickh@cleveland.esd.sgi.com (Dick Harkness)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: *** THE JAYS ARE KICKIN' ***
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:36:01 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Apr7.155645.29665@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>, chuong@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (CHUONG  HAN HSING) writes:
|> 
|> 
|>  As the entire North American continent saw on television, the Toronto
|> Blue Jays - behind the awesome pitching of Jack Morris - stymed the Detriot
|> Tigers.  .  Let all who
|> oppose Toronto's supremacy eat our dust!
|> 
|> Jim Chuong
|>
 After reading one too many articles (actually, one was one too many) on the Jays winning one game, Mr. Chuong is now part of my "author kill" file...I hope others join me.

Dick H.