From: astinus+@pitt.edu (Mark E Porterfield)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,rec.music.industrial,alt.industrial
Subject: Re: ROBO-COPULATION
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:26:18 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cyberpunk
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>
>Look, honey, you know what your problem is is you don't UNDERSTAND the
>history of female oppression handed down by none other than MEN.  So you
>better shut YOUR trap!!! Men are not even entitlted to an OPINION on
>feminism because they all act like the poster above.  THey whine when the
>least offense is made against their sensibilities: "Ouchie! I'm being torn
>down" while they turn around and then do worse to real women without even
>knowing it; it's an innate response.  So no, we the feminists don't want
>to hear the whinings of you "injured" men, cuz honey, you DON't know what
>injury means.  While we women have to struggle in the household, or with
>lower paying jobs, you men are out comparing the length of your penises. 
>So you try to deny this, just to pretend you care.  I've lived long enough
>to realize that no, you don't really care.
>
>Paula

Sorry if this is irrelavent at this time but I've been away and it REALLY
irks me....

Paula dear...What someone just tried to tell you is that hey...everyone isn't
like that.  think about hearing someone say, "All feminists are females
seeking dominance over males."  Not true huh?  Of course not..but some are.
Well, some males don't agree with lower wages for women and the opression of
the female sex.  You degrade each and everyone of us when you speak so.  Think
about it in an OTHER THAN GERALIZED FORMAT.  There are women out there in
college that are there to get the man to support them.  And, there are
women engineers and Comp Sci etc.  But there are only a few of them in
comparison.  I know a lot of techie women and they are good at what they do.
we are up against a long standing standard (all of us).  Men are capable
of real love to.  We are different but we care and want to be with our
children just as much.  Men do unique men type things and women do unique
women type things to take these away from either sex is wrong!  Just as it
is wrong for one sex to take advantage of the other.  It really sounds as if
you are the one whining.  So, deal!  Don't make enemies with those who do not
want to be.  Too radical a stance will push others away.  You seem to have the
"All men are pigs" attitude.  Well, we aren't and you are oppressed because
you choose to espouse you are.  I don't deny that men have and still do try
to oppress women but we have changed a great deal and are trying to keep
going that direction with others.  I know my children will be taught to be
fair...no "Bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen" stuff.  I do tease my SO
with it though and she takes it well and retaliates in jest as I was in jest.
Men put down men but when they do it to women they are bad...NOT!  I do it
with (key word "WITH") my SO because she IS smart, her own woman and knows
that it is in jest!  Teasing!  So, Paula chill and work with those of us who
are male and ar capable of loving, caring, joking on and equal level and
believe that we should hire and pay people based on ability alone.  Notice
I didn't say give up the fight...there is still one yet.  We will accomplish
more together.

Mark E. Porterfield

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