HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: petrraa@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Ray Petracek)
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
Subject: Re: Test
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:11:48 GMT
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.

OK....that got through to the news group.  Two problems remain:
1) each message incoming message from calgary is being sent to
leigh for approval....that needs to be fixed.

2) I suspect that you got a copy sent back because it again
arrived indicating it was from -request.  I am just waiting for
a call from roe to check and see exactly what field we do pick
up...will get back to you as soon as I hear from him.

Leigh.

PS. I have shut down distribution of this discussion beyond
unibase here...so we can do as much as we like.

-- 
Dr. Ray Petracek                   uucp: petrraa@unibase.uucp
Professor of Education             Internet:
petrraa@unibase.unibase
University of Regina
From: leigh@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Leigh Calnek)
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
Subject: test number 9
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:26:31 GMT
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca


Number nine...
-- 

Leigh Calnek
Internet: leigh@unibase.unibase.sk.ca
voice: 306/789-9007
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
From: leigh@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Leigh Calnek)
Subject: Distributed list now in operation
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:59:18 GMT


Well, for those of you who have been wondering, or for those
of you who care, we have now got the mail server link
between this discussion in news and the Calgary gateway to
Bangkok in operation.

The way we will be operating the link is that each posting
in news will be forwarded to a moderator/porter who will be
asked to approve/disapprove the item.  Please understand
that the moderator/porter only determines if the posting is
to be forwarded from the newsgroup to the international
discussion.  Assuming it is approved, the posting is
forwarded to the discussion list in Calgary, and from there,
who knows???

I think it is looking good from this end.  If you detect any
problems with this, please send me mail directly identifying
the problem as you see it.

Thanks, and looking forward to the discussion.

-- 

Leigh Calnek
Internet: leigh@unibase.unibase.sk.ca
voice: 306/789-9007
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
From: leigh@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Leigh Calnek)
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
Subject: test sent from unibase
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:07:49 GMT
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca

This is a atest sent from unibase
-- 

Leigh Calnek
Internet: leigh@unibase.unibase.sk.ca
voice: 306/789-9007
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
From: petrraa@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Ray Petracek)
Subject: Interaction between this newsgroup and Bangkok
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:56:12 GMT

For those of you who are planning to follow this discussion,
you should understand that this is a discussion which
originates from another network, and is being gated through
to the Usenet discussion.  We have it set up so that any
postings from the presenters, or from other networks which
are forwarded to the main server in Calgary will be
forwarded automatically through to this discussion group.

The return trip however is not so simple.  The procedure
used will be for replies (follow-ups) posted to the Usenet
discussion to float freely across Usenet.  However, each
posting will be forwarded automatically to a designated
"porter" who is responsible for determining if a particular
posting on Usenet merits being forwarded to the main
discussion originating from the Bangkok conference.  If the
decision of the porter is "no", then the posting is left as
a Usenet only posting.  However, if the decision is yes,
then the posting is forwarded to Calgary where it is further
forwarded to the other networks, including the site from where
the discussion presentor operates.

While it may seem somewhat arbitrary to filter postings in
this manner, clearly it is important to have some controls
on a discussion which is being echoed to virtually every
network in the world (at least a lot of them).  If you feel
a need to talk about this...do so, we would be interested in
your comments.  I will leave it to the porter to identify
him/herself if s/he wishes.  While this conference is not
scheduled to start for a couple of weeks, feel free to make
any comments you would like.


-- 
Dr. Ray Petracek                   uucp: petrraa@unibase.uucp
Professor of Education             Internet:
petrraa@unibase.unibase
University of Regina
From: leigh@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Leigh Calnek)
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.cmc
Subject: test number 11
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:21:03 GMT
Reply-To: <bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Originator: bancmc-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca

test 11
-- 

Leigh Calnek
Internet: leigh@unibase.unibase.sk.ca
voice: 306/789-9007
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: anderson@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terry Anderson)
Subject: Topic Abstarct from the First Speaker 
Originator: banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
Reply-To: <banpln-m@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca>
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:52:09 GMT

Bangkok Project - Strategic Planning and Policy in Distance Education Topic

First Speaker - Dr. Tony Bates
                Director of research, Open Learning Agency, British Columbia 

Dates: Oct. 12 - Oct. 26

Host Dr. Lani Gunuwardena


Topic Abstract:

What are the key policy and planning issues facing distance educators
today? Are there methods that can be used to 'anticipate the future'
and develop priorities that lead to survival or even growth in
an hostile or recessionary climate?
This conference will deal concurrently with both the 'issues' and the
'methods' of strategic planning in distance education. Some of the
issues that we are likely to discuss are:
  -    the impact of economic changes on the role of distance education
  -    the changing student body
  -    the relationship between conventional universities/colleges
        and distance education units/institutions
  -    technology and access
  -    distance education in the work-place: public institutions
        in the private sector
Some of the methods we are likely to discuss are:
  -    different models for strategic planning
  -    doing an environmental scan
  -    SWOT analyses
  -    mission, mandate and vision statements: do they work?
  -    getting 'buy-in' from staff
  -    implementing a plan and dealing with crises
But remember, this is a conference, so participants will be expected
to help choose topics, and provide information, comments and experience.
This is NOT an administrative conference though, so topics such as
financial control and management, human resource development,
management information systems, etc. will need to find another home.
The strategic planning conference should be of interest to those
concerned with policies, such as Deans, Directors of Departments,
Vice-Presidents, Presidents, Vice-Chancellors, and academics
with an interest/responsibility for future directions in their distance 
teaching open learning units, and for those who have to provide research
data and information for 'the big guys'.




-- 
Terry Anderson
Dept. of Educational Psychology                     Ph 403-284-0922
University of Calgary                              Fax 403-289-4471    
Calgary, AB. Canada T2N 1N4              InterNet ANDERSON@ACS.UCALGARY.CA
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: leigh@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Leigh Calnek)
Subject: Testing the system
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:21:56 GMT


Well, this really has nothing to do with the content of this
discussion...but rather is just to test our moderator and
gateway process.  This posting is a usenet posting and is
posted across the network.  A copy of the posting is
automatically forwarded to a moderator who will approve it
for posting back to the main discussion from the Bangkok
conference.  If this works now, then we won't have to burden
you with trying it again.

-- 

Leigh Calnek
Internet: leigh@unibase.unibase.sk.ca
voice: 306/789-9007
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
From: petrraa@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Ray Petracek)
Subject: Interaction between Usenet and the Bangkok Conference
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:28:32 GMT

For those of you who are planning to follow this discussion,
you should understand that this is a discussion which
originates from another network, and is being gated through
to the Usenet discussion.  We have it set up so that any
postings from the presenters, or from other networks which
are forwarded to the main server in Calgary will be
forwarded automatically through to this discussion group.

The return trip however is not so simple.  The procedure
used will be for replies (follow-ups) posted to the Usenet
discussion to float freely across Usenet.  However, each
posting will be forwarded automatically to a designated
"porter" who is responsible for determining if a particular
posting on Usenet merits being forwarded to the main
discussion originating from the Bangkok conference.  If the
decision of the porter is "no", then the posting is left as
a Usenet only posting.  However, if the decision is yes,
then the posting is forwarded to Calgary where it is further
forwarded to the other networks, including the site from where
the discussion presentor operates.

While it may seem somewhat arbitrary to filter postings in
this manner, clearly it is important to have some controls
on a discussion which is being echoed to virtually every
network in the world (at least a lot of them).  If you feel
a need to talk about this...do so, we would be interested in
your comments.  I will leave it to the porter to identify
him/herself if s/he wishes.  While this conference is not
scheduled to start for a couple of weeks, feel free to make
any comments you would like.


-- 
Dr. Ray Petracek                   uucp: petrraa@unibase.uucp
Professor of Education             Internet:
petrraa@unibase.unibase
University of Regina
From: leigh@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Leigh Calnek)
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.planning
Subject: Postings in this Discussion
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:35:13 GMT
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.


Well, life can be tough, especially when you are trying to
implement something new, or something that you haven't tried
before.

For those of you who are planning to follow this discussion,
you should understand that this is a discussion which
originates from another network, and is being gated through
to the Usenet discussion.  We have it set up so that any
postings from the presenters, or from other networks which
are forwarded to the main server in Calgary will be
forwarded automatically through to this discussion group.

The return trip however is not so simple.  The procedure
used will be for replies (follow-ups) posted to the Usenet
discussion to float freely across Usenet.  However, each
posting will be forwarded automatically to a designated
"porter" who is responsible for determining if a particular
posting on Usenet merits being forwarded to the main
discussion originating from the Bangkok conference.  If the
decision of the porter is "no", then the posting is left as
a Usenet only posting.  However, if the decision is yes,
then the posting is forwarded to Calgary where it is further
forwarded to the other networks, including the site from where
the discussion presentor operates.

While it may seem somewhat arbitrary to filter postings in
this manner, clearly it is important to have some controls
on a discussion which is being echoed to virtually every
network in the world (at least a lot of them).  If you feel
a need to talk about this...do so, we would be interested in
your comments.  I will leave it to the porter to identify
him/herself if s/he wishes.  While this conference is not
scheduled to start for a couple of weeks, feel free to make
any comments you would like.


-- 

Leigh Calnek
Internet: leigh@unibase.unibase.sk.ca
voice: 306/789-9007
From: petrraa@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Ray Petracek)
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.theory
Subject: Getting going
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:40:52 GMT
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.

As I indicated, postings in the usenet news groups are forwarded
to a moderator who is somewhere out there in netland.  The
moderator is serving as a "porter" to assist the flow of
postings between the networks, and in this case, between the
main conference and usenet.  This posting is circulated across
usenet, and is forwarded from our system here at UNIBASE to this
porter/moderator.  This person makes a decision as to whether or
not the posting should be sent forward to the main discussion.
If yes, s/he sends back an "approved" tag, otherwise a "discard"
tag.  So in reality, we will have two levels of discussion going
on here....one that is local to usenet, and the other that is
across networks.

Sorry to keep talking about this but I am just doing some final
testing to make sure it indeed works the way I have described.

-- 
Dr. Ray Petracek                   uucp: petrraa@unibase.uucp
Professor of Education             Internet:
petrraa@unibase.unibase
University of Regina
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.theory
From: petrraa@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Ray Petracek)
Subject: Interaction between usenet and Bangkok Conference
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:44:35 GMT

For those of you who are planning to follow this discussion,
you should understand that this is a discussion which
originates from another network, and is being gated through
to the Usenet discussion.  We have it set up so that any
postings from the presenters, or from other networks which
are forwarded to the main server in Calgary will be
forwarded automatically through to this discussion group.

The return trip however is not so simple.  The procedure
used will be for replies (follow-ups) posted to the Usenet
discussion to float freely across Usenet.  However, each
posting will be forwarded automatically to a designated
"porter" who is responsible for determining if a particular
posting on Usenet merits being forwarded to the main
discussion originating from the Bangkok conference.  If the
decision of the porter is "no", then the posting is left as
a Usenet only posting.  However, if the decision is yes,
then the posting is forwarded to Calgary where it is further
forwarded to the other networks, including the site from where
the discussion presentor operates.

While it may seem somewhat arbitrary to filter postings in
this manner, clearly it is important to have some controls
on a discussion which is being echoed to virtually every
network in the world (at least a lot of them).  If you feel
a need to talk about this...do so, we would be interested in
your comments.  I will leave it to the porter to identify
him/herself if s/he wishes.  While this conference is not
scheduled to start for a couple of weeks, feel free to make
any comments you would like.


-- 
Dr. Ray Petracek                   uucp: petrraa@unibase.uucp
Professor of Education             Internet:
petrraa@unibase.unibase
University of Regina
Newsgroups: alt.education.bangkok.theory
From: petrraa@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA (Ray Petracek)
Subject: Interaction between usenet and Bangkok
Organization: Unibase Telecom Ltd.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:02:56 GMT

For those of you who are planning to follow this discussion,
you should understand that this is a discussion which
originates from another network, and is being gated through
to the Usenet discussion.  We have it set up so that any
postings from the presenters, or from other networks which
are forwarded to the main server in Calgary will be
forwarded automatically through to this discussion group.

The return trip however is not so simple.  The procedure
used will be for replies (follow-ups) posted to the Usenet
discussion to float freely across Usenet.  However, each
posting will be forwarded automatically to a designated
"porter" who is responsible for determining if a particular
posting on Usenet merits being forwarded to the main
discussion originating from the Bangkok conference.  If the
decision of the porter is "no", then the posting is left as
a Usenet only posting.  However, if the decision is yes,
then the posting is forwarded to Calgary where it is further
forwarded to the other networks, including the site from where
the discussion presentor operates.

While it may seem somewhat arbitrary to filter postings in
this manner, clearly it is important to have some controls
on a discussion which is being echoed to virtually every
network in the world (at least a lot of them).  If you feel
a need to talk about this...do so, we would be interested in
your comments.  I will leave it to the porter to identify
him/herself if s/he wishes.  While this conference is not
scheduled to start for a couple of weeks, feel free to make
any comments you would like.


-- 
Dr. Ray Petracek                   uucp: petrraa@unibase.uucp
Professor of Education             Internet:
petrraa@unibase.unibase
University of Regina
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein)
Subject: Cite on Importance of D.E. Needed
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:14:13 GMT

I am turning in a local research proposal on Monday, 5 October
and could use a few choice cites/words on the importance of 
distance learning today and into the future.  Can anyone help
with such a cite?  I realized that I'm taking the importance of
the topic for granted, but others might not.

Thanks!

Bruce C. Klopfenstein             |  klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu
Department of Telecommunications  |  klopfenstein@bgsuopie.bitnet
322 West Hall                     |  klopfens@bgsuvax.UUCP
Bowling Green State University    |  (419) 372-2138; 372-2224 
Bowling Green, OH  43403-0235     |  fax (419) 372-8600
From: anderson@acs.ucalgary.ca (Terry)
Subject: Bangkok Project
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 03:01:44 GMT
Distribution: alt.education.distance misc.education
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

My aaplogies for loosing the first few paragraphs of the previous message. 

The intent of the message is to invite readers of alt.education.distance to
particpate in the Bangkok Project for the next 8 weeks.  The Bangkok Project
is a supplemtary, interactive discussion co inciding with the XVI World
Conference of the International Council for Distance Education (ICDE)
The project consists of 6 Topical discussions, lead by world renowned "First
Speakers".  Interactive responses to the discussion are being ported to nearly
30 different lists, networks or stand alone systems. The new UseNet
alt.bangkok.. groups are expected to be amongst the most active lists particpating.

The logistics of distributing messages across different lists, while filtering
out garbage, innappropriate and duplicate items is prooving quite a challenge.
However it is also exciting to be a contributing part of perhaps the first
large scale global discussion!  

I'd like to welcome each of you to particpate
and reflect on the learning that goes on using this media. As distance
educators we are mandated to investigate and critically reflect on new media
that offer promise to reduce spatial and temporal differences that seperate
not only ourselves as teachers and learners but also as global citizens.

Please take the time to join which ever of the 6 topic areas (alt.bangkok.XXX)
interest you.  And remember that participating is more fun than lurking ;-}

Terry Anderson
Bangkok Project, Network Coordinator









































-- 
Terry Anderson
Dept. of Educational Psychology                     Ph 403-284-0922
University of Calgary                              Fax 403-289-4471    
Calgary, AB. Canada T2N 1N4              InterNet ANDERSON@ACS.UCALGARY.CA
Newsgroups: alt.education.distance
From: klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein)
Subject: Telecom Contacts in Dallas Area
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:46:24 GMT

I am trying to plan for a trip to Dallas in order to learn
more about what is going on with the telecommunications
industries today first hand so that I can bring that know-
ledge back into the classroom.  Can anyone help with some
addresses (and possibly contact people) at any of these
companies' Dallas metro offices?

Southwestern Bell
Bell Northern Research
Northern Telecom
US Sprint
AT&T
Microelectronics & Computer Consortium
USA Video
any other telecom-related companies in the Dallas area

Universities using distance education telecommunications 
technologies; info about
Dallas County Community College District and "TAGER"

Thanks for your help!


Bruce C. Klopfenstein             |  klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu
Department of Telecommunications  |  klopfenstein@bgsuopie.bitnet
Bowling Green State University    |  (419) 372-2138; 372-2224 
Bowling Green, OH  43403-0235     |  fax (419) 372-8600
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Caller ID
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:34:27 GMT

aaron@stat.tamu.edu (Aaron Hightower) writes:
>>does anyone have a list of which states have approved call waiting? i've 
>>got a suprafax v.32bis and supra has just released the new ROM that 
>>supports caller ID and i want to know if i can use it... i'm in 
>>california.. 

>I second that..I'm in Texas.
*----
Approved != available.  Call your local phone company and ASK.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: procha@titan.ucc.umass.edu (PAUL ROCHA)
Subject: Re: ma bell hassle/ANI for 413
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:44:55 GMT

I'm not sure exactly what a "ring back code" is, (or an ANI, or ANAC, etc) but 
to get the phone number you are calling from, dial 200-5555 in the 413 area
code.  Wait about 15 seconds, you'll get a recording of the number you are on.

Hope that's what you were looking for!


-- 
P. Rocha					Don't shoot, it's only me!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WWIVnet: 502@1 Internet: procha@titan.ucc.umass.edu Don't like me? Don't write!
Newsgroups: alt.dcom.telecom
From: dcohan@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: ma bell hassle/ANI for 413
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.062421.10359@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, shri@nyx.cs.du.edu (H. Shrikumar) writes:
> In article <gsNDRB1w165w@chezrob.pinetree.org> 
>   rogue@chezrob.pinetree.org (Marc Scott) writes:
>>
>>P.S. the ANAC for Ottawa, Ont. is #320-2232, ring back is 999-NNN-XXXX 
>>the "n"'s and "x"'s being your phone number
> 
>   Could anybody please tell me the ring back code in New England Telphone ?
> Areacode (413) ?
> 
>    Also do you know what the ANI readback number is here ?
> 
>    BTW, the term ANAC is new to me .. whatsit ?
> 
> -- shrikumar ( shri@nyx.cs.du.edu, 
>                shri@legato.cs.umass.edu, shri@iucaa.ernet.in )
> 


Recently, I had a phone installed but Ma Bell didnt tell me what the number
was.  When I called the operator, they refused to give me my number.  I had
to wait until the next day, call the business office (their computers were
down) to get my number after a long wait.

So, if they had only told me the ANI for the 413 area code, I could've saved
them the hassle.

damn red tape.

-Debbie