From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: FOR PHYZ, AND DCAL
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:49:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.205914.23070@Princeton.EDU>, gvbattle@window.Princeton.EDU (Gregory V. Battle) writes:
> (Dean Calloway, please read the end of this message.  Email me if you want.)
> OK folks, I lied.  I really didn't edit my kill file (But I wish I did).  And  
> by the way Phyz(ile) :
> 
> |> I may not go to PRINCETON, but Ah know double-talk when Ah sees it.
> |> Sweet,preach on insults while dropping a few of your own.......Are you in 
> |> Law School?
> |> DJ Phyz
> 
> This shit means absolutely NOTHING, when you take into consideration that every  
> person on this net is either at a major institution of higher learning or at a  
> major business.  Thus, insinuations based on people's environment are  
> hypocritical and petty.  The careful reader will notice that I have dropped my  
> slang for this message.  Not because I am not down (as if I cared), but because  
> I want as many people as possible to understand my comments.  NO, I am not in  
> Law School. I'm just another brother trying to get over in Computer Science.   
> If you, or any other person, care to finger me, you'll see what I'm getting at  
> (read as encouragement, not a dare).

**
But you frontin' G!!  OK, bringin' up environs wasn't needed, but how you gonna
sit back and diss while tryin' to drop some shit of your own?  Sounds like
legaleese to me!!  Your point would have been taken better if you didn't try to 
take the high road while throwin' a few jabs at the same time.
 
> G-BAttle
> gvbattle@phoenix.princeton.edu
> 
> BTW : The really funny thing about this flamewar is watching people (including  
> myself), flip between dialects between posts.  I have no problem doing this  
> because my existence vacillates between a white world and a black one, or my  
> corporate life and my private life.  And as for Dean Calloway, I deal with  
> brothers like you daily.  Not to disrespect your valid viewpoint, but the  
> "BLACKER THAN THOU" stance is rather arrogant, in my opinion.  Much like you, I  
> demand respect through my actions first and speech second.  My question for you  
> is this; what is wrong with being black and independent.  Isn't being a  
> positive, successful African-American within a white world enough?  Isn't the  
> fact that we, as people on this net and the technological aloofness combined  
> with it, progress enough?  I am NOT for universal unity of all black people.  I  
> am much more comfortable with a partitioned black people, because self-interest  
> cannot be ignored because it is a trait of human nature.  Democracy runs  
> through all of our veins, thus drowning all hopes for a unified people by  
> virtue of our domestication within the American system.  I often question the  
> merits of being a "righteous" black man.  Don't get me wrong Dean, I agree with  
> you fully on the ignorance displayed over the past week, my previous post will  
> support me.  I just wanted to voice my dissenting opinion to a couple of views  
> I noticed indirectly in your post.   
***
I gotta agree with you here.  This brotha obviously is on time with a lot of
his views.  A Master's student in Urban Affairs, I would expect no less.  We
all wear many hats in our daily existence.  When I'm at work hobb-nobbin' with
these bullshit scientists, I gotta play the GAME.  How well you play the GAME
determines how far you can go and how far back you can reach to pull others up.
When I log on to this .net at work, I write about something that's important to
me in a style that's comfortable to me.  DCAL thinks all homies can't interview
correctly, and I'm sure many can't.  But to deem all of us who loosen up on
this .net as ignorant, stupid, worthless, whatever, is irrational.  Hell, we're
all no better than the "MF's who sell to their own".  C'mon y'all, do you buy
this shit?  So it's Slang user=crack dealer?  Who changed tha rulz?  As far as
white posters comin' off as tryin' to be black, that shit is offensive to me in
the same sense as Vanilla Ice or Hammuh tryin' to be legit.  We see Dobalinas
around the way EVERYDAY, ALL OF US!!  They gonna get theirs!!  But how you
gonna diss somebody VT1000 style an' you don't even know who the fuck they are?
But to some, I will always "look" ignorant....so be it.  
As far as being sexist/mysognist goes, I don't unnestand.  I believe that I
made ONE PMS reference to Ms. Phillips in ONE post, now I'm a hoe-slappin, bitch
pimpin', mack daddy, etc. etc.  No one said a DAMN thing about Martha's
"testicular cancer" joke, any takers?  Violence begets violence, and bad taste
begets bad taste.  I thought the shit was funny (although I wished that she
would have done better).  Like Michael Moore said, if she was a man, she would
have gotten the same, maybe worse.  He, Dave at IU, and I know what's up with
that.  We are all intelligent enough to use the apprpriate language in each
facet of our daily lives, why do we need to be chastised for that?  Maybe we
should all "..grow up and be MEN...", even you ladies out there.  C'mon, you
can do it, we've got a TEACHER (not a Mom, Dad, Brotha, Sistah, Pastor..) now, a
real live put it in your ass then pull it out HARD TEACHUH!!  TUO, I've been
banished to the other side...

zyhP== 

PS: Hey, TEACHUH, leave us kids alone....
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