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From: gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Michael Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Seamless Windoze question.
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:11:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.54457
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <17486.29e9674e@ecs.umass.edu> horan@ecs.umass.edu writes:

>- Seamless windows is when I just run say... CorelDRAW! right from the 
>  PM and it appears on the desktop without having a windoze desktop manager

Right.

>- Having a TSENT4000 (DSS) card, I can run OS/2 with my old 1.3 768x1024x16
>  driver, or with the 640x480x256 standard driver that comes with OS2/2.

That's an ET4000 based card, its 1024x768x16 (not vica versa) (yes, those
are both technicalities and really don't make a difference), and no, OS/2
does not ship with a "640x480x256" driver- it comes with 640x480x16. There
is no such thing as a standard 640x480x256 driver (glaring at video card &
monitor manufacturers).

>Is this all right?  If so, does it seem like Diamond or Orchid will come out
>with a driver that will allow 768x1024x256 with seamless windows.

Tseng or Diamond will probably eventually release a driver that allows hi-res
seemless windows. I believe its up to the driver, not the OS, but I'm not
absolutely sure.
        Tom Sorensen
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: curry@tc.fluke.COM (John Curry)
Subject: OS/2 functionality questions
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:54:09 GMT


Hello world ;-)

  For the project I'm working on we are in the process of comparing
  several operating systems and their general functionalities. The
  project will consist of up to 90 computers connected to a TCP/IP
  Ethernet network which is serviced by SUN fileservers. We prefer to
  find an OS vendor that supplies the majority of our needs in an
  integrated package, although realistically this may not be the case.

  Below are some general questions we have about OS/2 and its
  functionality. I have a general feeling for several of the
  questions, but I put it to all of the OS/2 experts out there to give
  me the gory details. These questions don't necessarily specify our
  requirements for the OS, but they do form the framework by which we
  are comparing different OS offerings.

Thanks,

John Curry 
curry@tc.fluke.COM

  P.S. If there is enough interest I can post a summary of the
       responses I receive.


o Is OS/2 multi-tasking?


o Does it support multi-users per CPU?


o What type of inter-process (inter-task) communications (IPC) does it
  support for the ability to share data between two tasks on the same
  CPU.


o Type of network support (i.e. TCP/IP, RPC, NFS, BSD sockets, etc.)?
  Is the networking integrated with the OS or must it be purchased
  from a third party (if so what are the approx. costs)?


o Support for the X-Windows windowing protocol. Is this a third party
  add on? At what approx. cost?


o What type of real-time OS attributes does it have, i.e. pre-emptive
  scheduling, predictable interrupt response, shared memory,
  reentrant, etc.


o Any support for remote access capabilities (rlogin, rsh, ftp, etc.)?
  If not integrated with the OS is it available from third parties?


o Does it support the standard UNIX C-library calls to ease the
  developing of software on a workstation? Are the libraries supplied
  with the OS?


o Is the OS downloadable over an Ethernet (TCP/IP) network? Prefer to
  install OS updates remotely instead of by floppy.


o What type of security mechanisms are implemented to prevent
  unautorized access?



Thanks again...
From: ignacij@meishan (Ignacy Misztal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: DPMI problems in 2.0
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:27:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

To compile fortran programs using gcc, I planned on using a 32 bit f2c
that was compiled using Borland C++ 3.0 for the DPMI mode. However the
32-bit executable does not run but returns a message:
DPMI operating system error
The program is run in a DOS window with DPMI enabled with 6 Mbyte RAM. 
I am running 304e. Is OS/2 running all DPMI programs or are there any exclusions?

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From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM OS/2 v.2.0 demo in Atlanta
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:57:12 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Michael Sorensen) writes:

>In <rhoward.702947638@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:

>>You know, after I got back from the Atlanta demo/hands-on session
>>I was really disappointed. :-(  I have heard about all these rollouts
>>in NY, LA, etc. and how they were glitzy, professional, and all
>>that you would imagine from a big company like IBM.  What did we get
>>in Atlanta?

>A lot, you just missed it (sorry). The first OS/2-PS/2 road show was here,
>a week ago today. They had the FTN broadcast on the 7th also, which was
>quite impressive. The OS/2 users group will be showing off GA next Wednesday.
>Just like in NY, LA, etc. its a matter of knowing where to be and at what
>time.

It's just a matter of knowing where to be and when!?!?  What an insult!
Is OS/2 some secret society that only the priviliged get to partake
in?  My previous post's bottom line was "IBM hasn't put out much 
effort to make OS/2 visible/successful in the Atlanta market."  No
matter how much hoopla they plan, no matter how many meetings they
organize, if they don't let us know about it they might as all just
give up right now.  (I follow these newsgroups, I read local Ga. Tech
news groups, I read the papers and other media, what else am I
supposed to do?!).

I stand by my original statements.  IBM has dropped the ball in
Atlanta...

Robert
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jim@tct.com (Jim Kunzman)
Subject: Re: Idiots at the Magazines
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:00:24 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain):
>I haven't had much opinion on this matter until this issue of PC Mag.,
>the one that compares OS/2 to Windows.  They do a good, if ho-hum, job
>of describing all the strengths and capabilities of OS/2 and then say
>it is a loser.  How they get that conclusion from those facts totally
>escapes me.  Even our buddy Zachmann totally blows it when he tells us
>that the NeXT is built on the Macintosh kernel.  *Mach*, William F., not
>Macintosh. Sheesh.  This kind of blithering ignorance seems contrived
>to make him and his boost of OS/2 look stupid. Steve must be writhing in
>agony.
>
>I sniff the stench of payola.
>-- 

I agree with Bob's observations, but then I would since they support
my position in a previous post that PC Magazine's writers have lost
the technical edge they once enjoyed.  I was amused to note that many
of PC Magazine's readers are also picking up on this.  If you read the
letters to the editor, almost all of the them complain about technical
inaccuracies (incompetence) in PC Magazine's articles.

I also found the front cover very interesting.  Windows 3.1, a product
with only minor functional improvement and largely a bug fix, got
60% of the page space.  OS/2 2.0, an entirely new product, on the other
hand got approximately 5% of the page space.  Perhaps Bob's guess of
the stench of payola is correct, but I hope not.  I still think they
are just technically incompetent.  Alternatively, they could just be 
lazy.  After all, it's easy to tell an audience exactly what it wants
to hear.  
-- 
Jim Kunzman at Teltronics/TCT     <jim@tct.uucp>, <uunet!pdn!tct!jim>
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OS/2 is dead!  Long live OS/2!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Dulay)
Subject: Egghead
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:40:15 GMT

	I visited the local Egghead store last Saturday and was told there
that very few Egghead retail outlets are planning to carry OS/2 2.0.  This
store is one which is not going to be carrying it, but, the salesman told 
me, the Egghead wherehouse would be carrying OS/2 and I should call them 
@ 1-800-egghead.  @ this phone # the operator told me that Egghead didn't
know pricing, its upgrade policy, or when it would recieve its first
shipment of OS/2.  I've given up w/ the retail channel, but unless IBM
does something to support the retail channel it will lose a lot of sales.
I think that IBM shouldn't have bothered w/ GA on 3/31 since it's almost
impossible to get the product until the end of this month.  Does anyone 
agree w/ me on this?

							DDulay
From: teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (Toby Everett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: More "buglets"
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: muddcs.1992Apr12.171344.1123
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1992Apr12.054833.14899@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:
>Tear out a folder from the templates.  Click MB2 to bring up the
>menu and click on 'Create Shadow...'.  When that menu comes up,
>immediately close it by double clicking on the upper left corner.
>Now drag the folder to the shredder.  You get a do-not-enter sign.
>You cannot delete the folder until you reboot.
	True, you cannot delete the Folder by ordinary means (the Delete 
selection on the menu is gone!).  However, if you follow through on your 
creation of a Shadow, and then go to the shadow menu, you can select Original
Delete, which will get rid of the offending folder.

>Open the Settings Notebook on a Drives object.  Go to Menu.  In
>the upper window, select '~Open'.  The 'Settings..." button is
>now available, click on it.  You get the 'Menu Settings' window.
>Look in the 'Default Action' drop box.  If you change this to
>Icon, Tree, or Detail, it really does change the default setting
>for when you double click on the drives object.  But the 'Default
>Action' edit box does not reflect this, it always says '~Icon view'.
	Where is the 'Default Action' edit box?  I noticed that everytime
I do 'Setting' on the menu, it resets the 'Default Action' in the drop box
to 'Icon'.  Is this what you are talking about?

        --Toby Everett
        --teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu
        "I'm rooting for Boca.  How about you?"
From: chenjs@acf3.NYU.EDU (Jiansheng Chen,1141 Meyer,8-7667,)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse and OS/2 2.0 GA
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:42:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

/* acf3:comp.os.os2.misc / sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) / 11:37 pm  Apr  5, 1992 */
In article <57250005@acf3.NYU.EDU> chenjs@acf3.NYU.EDU (Jiansheng Chen,1141 Meyer,8-7667,) writes:
>I installed the OS/2 2.0 GA on a noname 386SX machine with 8MB and
>the Logitech serial mouse.  But the mouse didn't work.  I tried the
>following options:
>	1) Logitech mouse; 
>	2) Serial pointing device;
>	3) In-port pointing device;
>but none of them worked.
>Thanks for any info.

I'm afraid we need a bit more information.  Turn your mouse over and
tell us what the model number is.
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Here's the more information:

	SERIES 9, PS/2-SERIAL
	MODEL NO. CE9-6MD

Thank you for the reply.

- J. Chen
From: galpin@cats.ucsc.edu (Dan Galpin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Questions (Not on the FAQ)
Keywords: OS/2 2.0, Monitors, S3, etc.
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:53:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


According to the FAQ sheet, the OS/2 PM has no support for Hercules or Mono. I
run a multiple-monitor setup. Even though the second monitor is used primarily
for debugging (i.e. the MS Windows SDK w/CV for Windows, etc..) ... I was
wondering if OS/2 2.0 could make any use of it whatsoever? (i.e. open up a
terminal on the MDA while something in the PM was having fun...)

Other stuff. If a DOS app is running "full screen" and tries to run the MDA
would this send data to the second monitor or would OS/2 trap it and
virtualize it on the main monitor?

I am confused about HPFS. Can DOS apps be installed on it? (I understand that
they couldn't possibly take advantage of the extra features, but would OS/2
emulate a FAT partition for their benefit?) 

About Stacker. If I created a FAT partition, could I use stacker on the drive
if I ran Stacker in the config.sys of an OS/2-MSDOS session? (i.e. could a DOS
application have access to the stacker partition even if the rest of OS/2
could not assuming that the device driver was loaded individually for each
app?)

(I do understand that a true OS/2 stacker version is forthcoming)

I own an S3-based coprocessed video card. (The Diamond Stealth) Are there any
S3 based drivers for PM yet? Can I use the S3 drivers I currently have for
full screen windows sessions? How about Hi-color support?

I currently use another, similar, ATM-style program for WYSIWYG under Windows
(MoreFonts from Micro Logic Software). Can I continue to use this under WINOS2
sessions?

I will be getting 16 Mbytes of RAM soon. With that much RAM, how much Hard
Drive space will OS/2 dedicate to a swap file?

If I have a MS-DOS program that I want to grab ALL CPU cycles, does OS/2 2.0
support this.. (i.e. Wing Commander II or just about any realtime graphic
simulation..) How much user control is there over priority (can it be
individually set for each task?)

What MIDI and sound support is included with OS/2 2.0 GA? Will windows
programs that currently use custom device drivers to access MIDI be likely to
function under OS/2 2.0?

Okay.. that is about all I can think of for now. I waded through over 400
messages before posting this, and I don't think there are definitive answers
to most of the questions... (but I could have missed one.. 400 messages is
definitely a brain-frying experience..)

Thanks to all those who respond. E-Mail or a posting will be awaited eagerly.

- Dan Galpin

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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:11:10 CST
From: gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject: Re: HELP: diskless PCs in an OS/2-LAN
Reply-To: gthome@ausvm1.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: IBM - Austin
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 2.0
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc

In <44841@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Kyler Laird writes:
>The story I got when installing MS LAN Manager 2.0 was that one could
>boot DOS remotely with Ethernet or token-ring cards, but to boot OS/2
>remotely, one had to use token-ring.
>
>I did, however, track down someone (at MS or 3Com?) that said the boot
>ROM for remote Ethernet boot of OS/2 was in Beta.
>
>Is it now available?  (or, bottom line, "What OS/2-based LAN's support
>booting OS/2 remotely using an Ethernet card?")
>
>BTW, I'm switching to IBM's LAN Server 2.0 as soon as I can.  (I'm on
>a quest to rid myself of Microsoft products.)
>
>--kyler
>
The IBM Ethernet Adaptor is remote bootable...

Gerry Thome
IBM - Austin
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bergstro@src.honeywell.com (Pete Bergstrom)
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 2.0 faster than Windows??
To: comp.os.os2.misc
Posted-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 20: 46:01 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 01:46:01 GMT
Received-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 20: 43:01 CDT


jinli@dgp.toronto.edu (Jin Li) writes:
>merrill@cs.arizona.edu (Darren Merrill) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.175705.10643@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>>[ benchmarks deleted ]
>>>WINOS2 tests run on: PS/2 Model 80 16MHz w/ 80387; IBM VGA; 8 MB memory
>>>Win3.1 tests run on: 386/40; Tseng ET4000 VGA (640x480x16); 8 MB memory
>
>>You have got to be kidding!  You put a 386 16MHz with IBM VGA up against
>>a 386-40 with ET4000?  Don't you think this test is a little biased?  I
>>am surprised OS/2 did so well considering the large differential in 
>>hardware.  Come on, let's compare apples to apples - put OS/2 on the 386/40
>>and *then* do some tests.
>
>I am not particularly concerned with the CPU, but the peripherals and setup.
>
>PS/2 MCA vs 386 ISA;
>Math co-processor vs none;(since Windows is designed for device indep, I would
>                           think it uses floating point calculation for device
>                           coordinates.  Think about why QuickDraw on the Mac
>                           is so fast, because it limits to +/-32k for screen
>                           coordinates and uses integer only)
>

I don't believe there is a window system in existence today that uses
floating point.  Using 32 bit integers and/or fixed point, you can
cover just about any situation.  (2^32 is +/- 2 billion, plenty small
enough for most devices around today).

Pete
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Printers under OS/2: signif of ATM was Re: DeskJet Support in OS/2 2.0 GA
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:02:45 GMT
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University and The Jewish Theological Seminary, New York

How good is ink jet quality under OS/2?  Is it almost laser quality, using the
DJ-500 driver?  If the EPL-7000 is a supported laser printer, but
isn't Postscript, does that mean that one would get better quality
from a Postscript printer, since ATM is the mainstay of OS/2?  Or is
this *not* true, since OS/2 still lacks Postscript to screen, and the
supported printers' drivers do a good job at translating the
Postscript to bitmaps?

Thank you.  Email is welcome.
Meir
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From: terence@soldev.tti.com (Terence Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: GA available in LA area
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:27:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.

I called Compuclassics (818-347-7500) this morning (Thursday) and 

  THEY HAVE OS/2 2.0 GA SHRINKWRAP IN STOCK!!!

The price was about $139, I can't remember exacty since I was in shock.
Unfortunatly, they won't accept the IBM Free Upgrade form, which is
understandable, and although the salesman I spoke with had heard of the
$49 Windows 3.0 upgrade program their company was not participating in
it.  It was all I could do to keep myself from charging over and buying
one but since I'll get the regular free upgrade in 2 - 6 weeks (says
1-800-3IBMOS2, now its been two weeks) I'm trying REAL hard to wait.  Also
Compuclassics has OS/2 applications available over-the-counter.  I asked about
the GammaTech Utilities, they have it for $108, SmallTalk V/PM is ~300.  I
don't know what else they have.

On a side note:  Anyone in the LA area is invited to attend the Los Angeles
OS/2 Users Group meetings.  We have general meetings the 3rd Wednesday of
each month (yesterday) and technical meetings the first Wednesday.  There
are often demos and giveaways of real live products - I got SourceLink,
SmallTalk V/PM was given away and DeScribe Inc. gave away >6< copies of
Describe 3.0 - and other OS/2 paraphenalia.

The general meetings are at IBM in Canoga Park.  21041 Burbank Blvd. in/near
Warner Center just north of the Ventura Freeway (101).  Exit De Soto or Canoga.

The president, Paul Duncanson, can be reached on Compuserve at 71301,2053.

My address is:  terence@ttidca.tti.com

I'll try to remember and post this again closer to the next general meeting.

Terry (terence@ttidca.tti.com)


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dch2@engr.uark.edu (David Hobbs)
Subject: Re: Possible Reason for no OS/2 in Stores?
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 13:14:29 GMT


At the OS/2 rollout, I jokingly asked an IBM rep. why they didn't let 
Microsoft do their OS/2 marketing.  The rep (believe it or not she did not
get pissed) said that since so many 'popular' packages were being released
right now (she didn't mention names:), there was somewhat a shortage on
floppy disks right now.

You'd think that IBM of all people would be prepared for something like this...

D.
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From: TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET (Turgut Kalfaoglu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: System Reqs for 2.0?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:50:54 GMT
 <92102.152803TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET> <1992Apr12.115754@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Organization: European Academic Research Network

For one person applications, like I have DOS ARJ, an OS/2 program
DISKIMAGE and NCSA TELNET at the same time, 4MB is sufficient,
even if you have HPFS. It causes no continous paging to have these
three applications running (I think the system people refer to
"continous paging" as "thrashing").     Regards, -turgut
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Trident Update: SVGA ON Working/Rest Not
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:41:05 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

Well, now SVGA ON is working (DOS programs which use resolutions
beyond VGA work fine, and I can switch among them at will; haven't
tried Alt-Home yet).  No CGA-like snow as I earlier reported.  Most
odd.  The moon must have shifted.  :-)

However, when I try installing the Workplace Shell beta drivers or a
Windows driver, I get nothing and a Fatal Exit Code, respectively.
I'm using an 8900C card with 512K.

Any ideas from folks who have managed to get all this working?  I may
be talking with a Trident person soon enough as well.

T.F.S.
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