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From: topcat@hardy.u.washington.edu (Thanh - Vincent)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT BUYING THROUGH THE NET
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:16:35 GMT
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Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <1993Jan10.130909.1120@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>I've been guilty of this once or twice.  In both cases it happened when
>something was offered that sounded good -- but after I made an offer to buy, I
>found out something that makes it not as attractive.  
>
>What I've done since then is, anytime I'm not sure about something, go ahead
>and make the offer but say "This is provisional; I need to find out something;
>I'll get back to you by [day], and if you get a firm offer before then, go 
>ahead and sell it to them."  
>
buying through the net, it is vital that you communicate all of the
specifications to your prospective buyer to make sure that it is what they
want.  when i buy something through the net, i make it clear that i want a
return warranty in the case the product arrive unoperational.  i don't
want to buy something that doesn't work.  if you don't like this warranty
then say selling as is...people can't argue after that then.
when you are trying to sell something, always keep a record of your
prospective buyers until you sell the product.  tell your lower bidders to
wait because something has a higher offer.  if it doesn't go through then
you can contact the lower bidder.

in all fairness, people don't want to buy something that is no good, and
you don't want to sell something that you don't get paid for.  be honest
about your products.  people can't see it until it arrives at their door. 
that way you get a happy customer and you get your money for your product.

vince
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: steg@sscux1.ssc.gov (Michael Stegawski)
Subject: 70ns SIPPs needed
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:37:33 GMT

Need total of 4Mb in 1Mb - 70ns SIPPs for an AT machine.

Please reply to: michael_stegawski@ssc.gov

Thanks.
From: neilfp@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Neil F. Palumbo)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: WANTED: Rogue game
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:24:19 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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Hi All,

I'm looking for an old DOS game called Rogue, circa 1988 (approx). Anyone
out there who has a copy??

			Neil
From: topcat@hardy.u.washington.edu (Thanh - Vincent)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT BUYING THROUGH THE NET
Date: 10 Jan 1993 04:41:23 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan9.015021.629@sed.stel.com> jon@sed.stel.com (Jon Radel) writes:
>
>Oh, it would be nice, but don't hold your breath.  Just this week, I've
>heard back from someone who said he was going to buy something from me,
>but now he'd kinda changed his mind, so sorry.  The one that really
>annoyed me, however, was the person, who within 24 hours did the following:
>
>1) Got an offer from me on something originally advertised without a price.
>2) Accepted that offer and asked for my shipping address
>3) Wrote back to say that my offer had been topped, did I want to counter-offer
>4) Got a counter-offer from me that was higher than the then top offer
>5) Wrote back to say that he'd sold it.
>
>Hey folks, if you want to auction things off, try to play with a consistent
>set of rules that you decide on before you start.  :-(
>
jon,
the point is that the person at least has the decently to respond to you
instead of letting you wait week after week for something that was never
sent.  worse, they never to answer all the emails you sent them.  people
are entitled to change their mind as long as they let you know quickly. 
in your case, the aunctioning is wrong.  typically, the first guy to email
or call and make a reasonable offer gets the stuff.  the other guys will
have to wait to see if the deal doesn't go through before they can get it.
but the thing about obo is that they want a top price.
if you promised to a deal, then you keep it.  don't go back on your word.
thanks for the input jon,
vince
From: aj743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven D. Hardy)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Atari ST system 4 sale...
Date: 10 Jan 1993 05:31:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu



I have an Atari 520ST system for sale.  Every thing is in great
condition and has been treated with loving care.  I have recently
moved on to a new system and would like to find a home for my
Atari.  I am asking $400.00 or best offer for everything plus
shipping.  If you have any questions please send E-mail...
 
HARDWARE:
 
Atari 520ST
- 68000 16bit CPU at 8MHz
- 512k RAM
- RF modulator for connecting to your TV
- Atari two button mouse
- TOS operating system with GEM graphical user interface
- Two joysticks
- Connector to add two joysticks for four players
 
Two Atari SF354
- Single sided disk drives
- Uses 3.5" disks
- Will format to 360k
 
Master 3S
- Double sided disk drive
- Will format to 720k
- Teac mechanism
 
Rio Datel Disk Drive
- Double sided disk drive
- Will format to 720k
- Teac mechanism
 
Atari SMM804
- 9 pin printer
- Cable
- Paper
 
 
SOFTWARE:
 
All software is like new and includes manuals...
 
-APPLICATIONS-
 
Flash
Shadow
WordPerfect
 
-GAMES-
 
Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes of the Lance
Better Dead Than Alien
Alien Syndrome
Barbarian
Batman: The Caped Crusader
Dungeon Master
Chessmaster 2000
Exolon
Falcon: The F-16 Fighter Simulation
Formula 1 Grand Prix
Gauntlet
Gauntlet II
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
King's Quest III
Leader Board
Leather Goddesses of Phobos
Leatherneck
Outrun
Hyperdome
Moon Patrol
The Pawn
Phantasie
Phantasie II
Phantasie III
Test Drive
Star Fleet I: The War Begins
Sundog
Thrust
Starglider
Star Wars
Space Quest
Star Trek: The Rebel Universe
Thunder Blade
Time Bandit
Ultima II
Exodus: Ultima III
Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
Plutos
Vectorball
Xevious
Uridium
Robotron: 2084
Warhawk
Wizard's Crown
 
 
OTHER:
 
Lots and lots of Atari ST specific magazines...
 



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From: purelght@deeptht.armory.com (Eric Braun)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone,misc.forsale.computers.other
Subject: NEC ULTRALITE FOR SALE
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:11:12 GMT
Reply-To: purelght@armory.com
Organization: Eric Braun Associates/PureLight Inc.

For Sale

NEC UltraLite NoteBook

 * Fast V20 processor (8086 equiv)
 * 2MB Ram drive plus 640k ram
 * Floppy Port
 * Built-in DOS3.3 & LapLink
 * Backlit Display
 * Good Keyboard Feel
 * Extra Battery Pack
 * Extra Software
 * Serial port
 * Built-in 2400baud Modem
 * Power Pack
 * Weighs Only 4.4 Pounds
 * Takes up only 12" x 8" x 1.375"
 * Excellent Portability

$395 firm + shipping

E-mail to purelght@armory.com
or call 408-464-3665
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From: civil@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re:  QUESTION ABOUT BUYING THROUGH THE NET
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:05:30 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

There is some basic rules of "etiquette in general", also buyer-be-ware.
In the states, you can even send it by COD, which gives to right to
refuse an item and not lose any money, but here in Canada, no COD's from
the US at all, so most of us here send US money order before hand,
what potection do we have.

Civil

PS Happy New Year

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From: topcat@hardy.u.washington.edu (Thanh - Vincent)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: QUESTION ABOUT BUYING THROUGH THE NET
Date: 8 Jan 1993 08:10:29 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu


hello folks.
i was wondering if any of you who buy through the net ever made a deal
with someone.  they ask for your address, you send it, and then you never
hear from them again.  you send emails but you never got any reply back.
this has happened to me twice.
once i made out a cashier's check only to take it back and lose that $1.50
charge for nothing!
i supposed this is better than getting ripped off.
however, when you expect to get something, and you are ready to pay for it,
and then it never comes, you never get a reason, it's almost just as getting
ripped off.
we need some more etiquette in general.

thanks for reading.
vince
From: topcat@hardy.u.washington.edu (Thanh - Vincent)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: QUES: difference between soundblast 2.0 and pro
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:06:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1it92nINNl5k
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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i have a simple question in need of answer.
what is the difference between soundblaster 2.0 and soundblaster pro.
i have been meaning to get one of these hummers.
what exactly do they do?  do you need to buy any other accessories
like speakers and stuff like that?
thanks for your help
vince
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: kstell@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kevin.l.stell)
Subject: 25MHZ Motherbard Problem???
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:08:47 GMT

OK all you techno whiz types:

I have a 4M, no cache 25MHZ 386DX, with IDE 210M, Goldstar Monitor/BOCA Super 
VGA card.

PROBLEM:

Some graphics/games don't work. It doesn't seem to be the card, monitor and or
programs. This card/monitor combo works fine in a 33MHZ system. The
config.sys and autoexec.bat files are the same. Only the names have been
changed to protect the guilty.

Either I get graphics/games/hooters or on certain programs (the update to
Falcon3 comes to mind), the screen goes blank and locks the system. As
I stated before, the hardware combo works in a 33MHZ MB. 

Could it be a possible fluke with just my 25MHZ MB or has other techno
people/aliens/ animals experienced this?

Thanks in advance

Kevin
From: hsu_wes@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Wesleyan Hsu)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT BUYING THROUGH THE NET
Date: 10 Jan 1993 10:12:49 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

In article <1io9djINNh29@shelley.u.washington.edu> topcat@hardy.u.washington.edu (Thanh - Vincent) writes:
>the point is that the person at least has the decently to respond to you
>instead of letting you wait week after week for something that was never
>sent.  worse, they never to answer all the emails you sent them.  people

Very true.  It has happened to me SO many times (in fact I have 3 people I'm
waiting to hear from as I write this).  I don't mind if people go with
someone else's offers, but at least have the decency to let me know about it
so that I can move on and try to sell to some of my lower offers.

>if you promised to a deal, then you keep it.  don't go back on your word.

I agree.  What's so hard about keeping to a promised deal?  What ticks me
off is how it appears I have made an agreement with someone and they back
out.  By this time, after I've told my lower offers, they have dropped out
of the auction, and now I have no offers.  So, I have to bug everyone on the
Net again with a duplicate post that I'm selling something.  I'm quite sure
people are tired of reading that I have "xx" for sale and are probably
thinking "jeez, doesn't this guy have a clue?  He posts this thing so many
times!  Can't he see that no one wants it?"

Wes Hsu
Johns Hopkins U
Dept.of.ECE[A
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: jon@sed.stel.com (Jon Radel)
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT BUYING THROUGH THE NET
Organization: Stanford Telecom, SED, Reston
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 01:50:21 GMT

In article <1ijctlINNrfo@shelley.u.washington.edu> topcat@hardy.u.washington.edu (Thanh - Vincent) writes:
>we need some more etiquette in general.

Oh, it would be nice, but don't hold your breath.  Just this week, I've
heard back from someone who said he was going to buy something from me,
but now he'd kinda changed his mind, so sorry.  The one that really
annoyed me, however, was the person, who within 24 hours did the following:

1) Got an offer from me on something originally advertised without a price.
2) Accepted that offer and asked for my shipping address
3) Wrote back to say that my offer had been topped, did I want to counter-offer
4) Got a counter-offer from me that was higher than the then top offer
5) Wrote back to say that he'd sold it.

Hey folks, if you want to auction things off, try to play with a consistent
set of rules that you decide on before you start.  :-(

--Jon Radel
jon@sed.stel.com
From: rme81977@zach.fit.edu (Brian Fritz/ ADVISOR Russell (MAE))
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Brand New Hard Drives For Sale!
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:48:31 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

For Sale:

105 MB  Seagate ST3120A         IDE     17ms    -- $250
130 MB  Seagate ST3144A         IDE     19ms    -- $270
170 MB  Conner CP30174          IDE     17ms    -- $290

Prices do not include shipping...these drives are all brand new and are
still in original shrink-wrap from company.  They come with a one year
manufacturer's warranty.
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                             Brian D. Fritz
                    Email Address: RME81977@ZACH.FIT.EDU
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: cm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Christopher A. Meade)
Subject: Paradox 4.0
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:37:15 GMT

Paradox 4.0 (dos version) for sale -- still in the wrapper  $395.00 obo

Send inquiries to:

	Chris Meade
	cm@uhura.NEOUCOM.edu
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: slei@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (shih liang lei)
Subject: Civilization for PC compatibles
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:56:44 GMT


A friend of mine is looking to sell his Civilization game for PC compatibles 
for $20+.  It comes in good shape, w/ the original docs, box, mouse pad, disks,
plus a strategy book.  If interested, please leave him E-mail at 
	myin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: s897461@numbat.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Alfred Yau)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: IBM PC/386-DX 40Mhz for sale
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:30:50 GMT



IBM PC/386-DX 40Mhz (OPTI Chipset)
Optional Intel 387 or Weitek Co-Proc socket
64 Kbyte cache memory (expandable to 256Kbyte)
4 Mbyte of RAM (expandable to 32 Mbyte)
Tseng Labs ET4000ax 32K color VGA card (support upto 1280 by 1024 pixel)
ViewSonic 5E NON INTERLACE Super VGA monitor with 72 Hz refresh rate
125 Mb WESTERN DIGITAL Caviar Hard Drive (12 ms access time)
Panasonic KX-P1180 9pin multi mode printer
1.44 Mb Floppy disk drive
1.2 Mb Floppy disk drive
Hi-resolution Genius GM-6000 mouse (Microsoft & PC mouse compatible)
2 Serial and 1 parallel port
200 watt power supply
manual for all components
Plus lots of softwares and a computer table

Most of the components still under warranty


                                ONLY $1800 neg

Please contact BAHAR on (03) 484 0942 or
E-mail : rcsbt@godzilla.cgl.rmit.oz.au
         tamzil@latcs1.lat.oz.au

Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: gsbg9079@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Scott Braley)
Subject: Legal Question for Software Gurus
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:47:57 GMT

At a recent auction, I bid on and won an auction lot that included some software.  Just for
the record, the docs for this software came in some really spiffy binders.  That was what I
actually was bidding on.  I had no idea what the software actually was.  So anyway, with 
finals and the holidays I just let it all sit until this week.  When I looked at the 
software, lo!  It was all marked "Dealer copy--not for Resale".  So, I called the company and
found out a bit about the software and what it was worth.  Turns out my $4 binders retail for
about $17000.  Ok, so I was already sitting down, which was good.  Now, you can probably 
already see what the question is.  Oh, one more point, the auction was a out-of-business
auction.  So, what's my position?  Can I sell this software?  I wouldn't misrepresent it, but
I don't feel that I am bound to not sell it, since I am not a dealer.  Anyway, I am not quite
sure where I stand, and would welcome input.

				-Scott

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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: glock@chip.cba.ufl.edu (Joe Granto)
Subject: FOR SALE:  SVGA monitor and card
Organization: College of Business, University of Florida
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:22:46 GMT

Panasonic PanaSync C1381 14" interlaced SVGA monitor
			and
Cardinal 732 SVGA card with 1 MB RAM


This is an excellent video combination.  Great for Windows, and the Cardinal 
card boosts DOS performance over most standard cards.  I am asking $350 
obo.  Please email me any inquiries.






Joe

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From: af755@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bernard K. Yurgionas)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: DEC monitor output
Date: 7 Jan 1993 08:27:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Well looking for the easy way if any to use a IBM RGB on a DEC
PRO 350 I do know that DEC only uses 9 of the 15 pins for their
RGBs  but which pin outs match? With out a fire snap crackel pop.
Thanks
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Misc. Stuff for Sale!
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:49:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.102012.1@vax1.umkc.edu> lsim@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>03.  Upgrading to MSDos (Book)                                  $   5.00

As a longtime user of DOS, I wonder under what circumstances DOS
could be considered an "upgrade."

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d,misc.forsale.computers.pc-clone
From: edotto@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Otto)
Subject: Re: 25MHZ Motherbard Problem???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:19:52 GMT

kstell@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kevin.l.stell) writes:


>I have a 4M, no cache 25MHZ 386DX, with IDE 210M, Goldstar Monitor/BOCA Super 
>VGA card.

>PROBLEM:

>Some graphics/games don't work. It doesn't seem to be the card, monitor and or
>programs. This card/monitor combo works fine in a 33MHZ system. The
>config.sys and autoexec.bat files are the same. Only the names have been
>changed to protect the guilty.

Sounds like this is one of two things:

1) Check the bus speed setup in the XCMOS on the 25Mhz motherboard - it may
be a timing problem; or,

2) Make sure the BOCA SVGA driver is loaded on the 25Mhz - the games you are
running sometimes need the drivers, depending on the ROM BIOS.

				Hope this helps!

				--		Ed

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Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: lintner@convex.com (Mitchell Lintner)
Subject: For Sale: PC XT Turbo
Summary: For Sale: PC XT Turbo
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:55:19 GMT
Distribution: misc
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: PC XT Turbo
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

FOR SALE: Laser brand XT Turbo Computer
          640K RAM 34mb hard drive
          Computer "tower" stand
          Samtron amber monochrome monitor
          Panisonic KX-P1091 dot matrix printer with stand
          All original documentation and disks for both
          computer and printer. 

          Prefer to sell tegether $400.00
          Please call Carolyn at 596-9363
From: hsu_wes@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Wesleyan Hsu)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT BUYING THROUGH THE NET
Date: 10 Jan 1993 19:52:05 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

In article <1iqe93INNbvg@shelley.u.washington.edu> topcat@hardy.u.washington.edu (Thanh - Vincent) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.130909.1120@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>>What I've done since then is, anytime I'm not sure about something, go ahead
>>and make the offer but say "This is provisional; I need to find out something;
>>I'll get back to you by [day], and if you get a firm offer before then, go 
>>ahead and sell it to them."  

That's fine by me.  My story tells of when a person agrees on a deal, then
backs out.  It's like going to a store, telling a salesperson you will buy
it, walk up to the register, then leave the store.

>buying through the net, it is vital that you communicate all of the
>specifications to your prospective buyer to make sure that it is what they
>want.  when i buy something through the net, i make it clear that i want a
>return warranty in the case the product arrive unoperational.  i don't
>want to buy something that doesn't work.  if you don't like this warranty
>then say selling as is...people can't argue after that then.

Please, give people on the net some credit.  We're not talking about selling
defective products and ripping people off.  If this happened so often people
sure wouldn't come to the net to sell and buy things.

>when you are trying to sell something, always keep a record of your
>prospective buyers until you sell the product.  tell your lower bidders to
>wait because something has a higher offer.  if it doesn't go through then
>you can contact the lower bidder.

Yes, after my experiences, I can agree with this, and will start practicing
it too!

>in all fairness, people don't want to buy something that is no good, and
>you don't want to sell something that you don't get paid for.  be honest
>about your products.  people can't see it until it arrives at their door. 
>that way you get a happy customer and you get your money for your product.

I agree, but maybe this should be another thread.

Wes Hsu
Johns Hopkins U
Dept.of.ECE
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.d
From: slei@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (shih liang lei)
Subject: Civilization for PC compatibles
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:45:21 GMT