From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:51:27 GMT

jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch) writes:
: 
: In article <1992Jul27.123929.3041@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
: |>Leigh-Anne writes:
: |>  [Trash deleted]
: |>["Live to flame"   FLAME-ON]
: |>What a load of verbal diarrhea!  Some of you people out there are really due
   Etc.
: Logical Asbestos_Suit_On
: Asbestos_Suit_On = .TRUE.
: 
: 	Nick, have you ever had to call upon this system you live with for
: 	specialized, emergency, life-or-death treatment?  Do you personally
: 	know anyone who has?  The reason I ask is that I have always heard
: 	(it is popular rumor on this side of the pond) that socialized
: 	health care reduces the level of quality available.  Supposedly this
: 	is true in Japan, and Great Britain.  I can't speak to this from
: 	a personal standpoint, so I'm asking an open question to those who
: 	might be able to post a brief but knowledgeable response.  Any takers?
: 
: |>Nick   DoD 1069           [Inhabitant of a Really-Nice-Country(tm)]

: Mitch

Yes, we have everything that you have and _everybody_ has access to it.  Our
doctors and surgeons are world-class as any medical people in your country will
tell you.  Our nurses are not very well paid but are sought the world over.  We
pioneer surgical techniques as much and more than any other country, indeed,
much pioneering work has been done and will continue to be done here.  This
includes transplant surgery, AIDS research, genetic engineering, drugs research
and much much more.  I guess that you are suffering from a little propaganda
from your side, come over here, have an accident, get treated by paramedics at
the roadside, get taken quicklt to hospital, spend months being treated and 
cared for with physiotherapy, blood transfusions, you-name-it, and then go
home and have nurse care at home, medicine etc. And, at the end of it, NO BILL!

There are a few private healthcare companies here, like BUPA, but they are only
for when you want to reduce the waiting time for operations, like for 
artificial hips, wrists and things.  You can also pay and have a private bed in
hospital, people do this if they want to carry on work and need a 'phone, fax, 
secretary etc.  I am no expert on this, but I am sure that there are Brits on 
the net who will be happy to give you more expert information.  

I am not saying that the level of care you get is less than we get, it's just 
that you are in an elite position compared to the vast majority of your
compatriots and they all cannot receive the healthcare that you do whereas in 
my country, everybody can.  People who have heart/lung/etc, Transplants in this
country are not determined by their monetary status.  Unemployed people and
executives are treated with the same deference.  I doubt that the surgeon(s)
know what the person does anyhow.

Some of the surgeons ride bikes, some with integrated engine-transmission 
systems with wet clutches and synthetic oil.  Valve timing tends to be 
conservative and cylinders are generally multi.  They all wear helmets because
that's the law.       (Motorcycle bit because of the newsgroup name.) :)  :)
 
Just my tuppence worth.


Nick             DoD 1069           (What IS a .sig?)  (How?)

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