From: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Subject: Re: Strike at Saturn?
Reply-To: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:52:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.221408.6859@leland.Stanford.EDU>, underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug30.201804.20041@bnr.ca> dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
|> writes:
|> The cost of an Accord, according to my Japanese coworker, is
|> the same as an Accord in the USA; it's about ~$14,000.  The
|> Pontiac Grand Am, according to my Japanese coworker (who
|> happens to have lived in both countries), is ~$14,000 in the USA
|> but is ~$24,000 in Japan.
|> 
|> Tell me, Mr. Clayton.  Do you think that Accord owners in the USA
|> would pay ~$24,000 for an Accord?

The cost of an Accord in Canada is about $19,000.  Does this answer your
question?  What's the cost of Canadain beer, beef and lumber in the U.S.
compared to Canada?  I can tell you it's higher (not including tax).

|> > I think you'd find that German and
|> >Japanese cars are much more expensive in the U.S. (mabye not 100%).
|> >So how is this unfair?
|> 
|> This statement is about as intelligent as the previous statement by you.

Well, I'm obviously not as "intelligent" as a master mind like you.  My god,
you SO "intelligent" that the glare on my computer screen increases when I
read your preaching.

|> [more preaching]
|> >...
|> >Just because an economic system is different from yours you do not have to
|> >sink to obviously insulting comments.  You sound like if someones society
|> >is different then yours than it's obvously inferior.  That's an insult.
|> 
|> No one is being forced to be part of the free trade community.
|> If some country doesn't want to trade with another, _it_ doesn't have to.

Who said the world economy was based on Free Trade?  Who said the U.S. is even
capable of Free Trade?  Name one instance where Free Trade exists with the U.S
(and NO, don't name the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement, the U.S. has hardly 
conducted Free Trade under this agreement).

|> >answer : ask a Canadian, and YES, we are pissed about the U.S. and your 
|> >         protectionist attitudes.
|> 
|> I favor the USA-Canadian free trade agreement.  I oppose all American
|> subsidies and other inhibitants, direct or indirect, to free trade with
|> Canada.
|> 
|> Happy?

No, I don't care what you favour.  The point is that the U.S. is just as 
protecting of it's industries as Japan.  I'm glad that you managed to avoid
all my arguments pertaining to this and still whine about Japan.

|> Unfortunately, from people like Ms. Leith, you'll not get this sort of
|> direct statement of opposition to Japanese trade barriers.  Unlike Ms. Leith,
|> I can tell the difference between the #1 and #2 that I identified previously.
|> 
|> Unlike Ms. Leith, I realize that Japanese trade barriers are bad,
|> not only for us, but also for the Japanese.

Your opinion, and to quote you above, who the HELL are you to force your
opinion on me.  Oh, I forgot, you are clearly much more intelligent than
the rest of us, you must be right. (NOT!)

|> >You're pretty good at the "evangilistic" preaching about how great you 
|> >are and how bad they are.  I suggest you take a look at your own country.
|> 
|> I don't preach.  I tell it like it is.

No, you preach your opinion about how great the U.S. is and how shitty Japan
is, and you avoid all of the protectionist CRAP that the U.S. has pulled in
it's history.

You have a very *warped* sense of fairness.

Don
My brain, my thoughts, my words.
Let's pretend that protestants and catholics are friends.
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