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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Great Catalog of Dog Books
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:12:32 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

I just received in the mail a super catalog of books (and other things) about
dogs. There is also a Cat section, but I won't describe it here. Included are
books about dogs published throughout the world, out-of-print books, dog
songs, and topics such as Animal Welfare, Children's Books, Coursing, Guard
Dog/Shutzhund, Pet Loss & Bereavement, Therapy Dogs, Wolves & Wild Dogs. To
order a catalog from Direct Book Service, call 800-776-2665 between 8 am & 5
pm PST.
They have a large selection of video tapes, too. And windsocks for every AKC
breed.
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Marget Johnson
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From: boucher@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Teresa Boucher)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks needed
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:41:19 GMT
Reply-To: boucher@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Teresa Boucher)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.dogs, williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major) writes:
>I tried the shake the whole body trick with Spencer too, but I was never able
>to get him to do it.  Does anyone else have ideas how to get him to shake
>on command?
>

The way I taught my golden to shake was right after he would get a bath,
I would gently blow air into his face and he would get a chill and shake.
While you do this you need to say "SHAKE".  He does it on command now.
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From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: Do some dogs thrive on challenge? (long)
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1992 03:34:42 GMT

When Fuzzball lived in a house with a yard, she loved to dig her way
out of the fenced yard.

Once she'd "escaped," she'd go to the front door and ask to be let in!

--Lynn
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From: mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Subject: Doggy I.D. and Two for One?
Reply-To: mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Organization: Novell, Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:40:38 GMT

Well folks, I have yet another question.

I've adopted a 2 year old Sheltie (Ivan) and he will be an indoor
except when with Mom (either on a leash or in the fenced back yard).

I know there is always a slim chance that he could get out without
me, but....  Does he really need a collar and i.d. tag all the time?

He doesn't wear one now and I'd hate to put one on him if it wasn't
really necessary.

Opinions?

I also have the opportunity to adopt a 6 year old retired "brood
bitch" from the same breeder and am wondering if I'm nuts for thinking
about getting her too.  (She's a real sweetheart)  I have two cats who
will probably look at this as an insult, but have lived with two dogs
before.  (I think I'm looking for a excuse to take Mindy too.)

M'Linda
Mom-cat to Rio-the-LOUD and Thomasina-the-cute and
Ivan's Mom. (and maybe Mindy's?)
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From: steve@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Cool Dog Tricks Needed
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:52:12 MDT
Distribution: usa

A very easy and unique (at least in my parts) trick is the "hold a treat on
your nose until I say you can have it" trick.

Start out by holding the dog's muzzle and balancing the treat on it.  Wait a few
seconds and praise him/her as you let her have it.  Gradually increase the time
while still holding onto her muzzle.  Pretty soon she will realize that she
will get the treat sooner or later.  Then try loosening your grip.  Work
towards having her muzzle resting on your open palm and then start moving the
palm away until she is holding it all by herself.  If it ever drops to the
floor, don't let them get it (of course).

If you do this in small logical steps, you should have him/her holding it by
themselves in about a week.  I taught my parents dog in 1 week.  They look
pretty cute sitting there looking (cross eyed) at the treat the then you and
then the treat..etc.

Enjoy!  :-)

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From: janew@woobaby.EBay.Sun.COM (Jane Woo)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: canine good citizen test
Date: 22 Jul 1992 16:42:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: janew@woobaby.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: woobaby.ebay.sun.com

In article X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu, X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
  
> Sigh.  It's pretty obvious that these judges completely missed the spiri
> of what they were judging here, which, IMHO, was that the dog should
> 1)  show NO aggression towards the other dog
> 2)  still remain attentive and obediant towards the hander

Chris is right here.  Dogs should not fail for mild curiosity.  When
J.D. and I took the test (and passed!!), those that did fail, usually
failed the tie-out portion of the test.

Lots of dogs couldn't handle not "seeing" their owner for 5 minutes.
Yes, they are allowed to get up, but NOT allowed to whine, bark, pace,
or show other signs of agitation.

The CGC test is just a test to be sure that your dog is just that...
a good citizen.  It is not at all like an obiendence trial.  Here you
can talk to your dog at all times... except for the tie-out.

My club, Western Rottweiler Owners (WRO), will be putting on this
test sometime in August (I think).  If you are interested in participating
or just watching, I'll be glad to send you some info.  Oh- this will be
happening at Cal State Hayward, in Hayward CA.

-jane
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: To Bait or Not to Bait
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:57:46 EST

In article <1992Jul28.184818.25437@auto-trol.com>, bradav@auto-trol.com (Brad Davidson) writes:
> I just started dog showing this last weekend and was very successful but
> I now have a question about baiting.
> 
> I do not bait my dog but noticed that most every other handler was including
> handlers as events like those on cable.
> 
> Most handlers use beef liver or hot dogs but some use squeeze toys.
Yup, liver is what we use.  The recipe - boil liver for 10-15 minutes until
tender, drain it on paper towels, then put it on a cookie sheet and sprinkle
garlic and salt on it, bake for 15 minutes at 350 degrees. 
> 
> Are there any rules to using bait?  Am I better off with out bait since I
> want to get a CD and I do not think you can bait in the obiedence trial.
>
I just try to be considerate of the other dogs in the ring.  No loud squeaky
toys! Actually, I think you might be better off to use bait in the conformation
ring.  The two (conformation and obedience are so different) that the dog will
quickly pick up on what it is supposed to be doing and when.
> 
> What are the advantages to baiting that I am missing?  I have great attention
> from my puppy in the ring and even when the judge had a cookie the puppy had
> no interest in food.
> 
Sometimes judges try to get expression themselves and they use bait to do it.
Did your puppy show interest in the judge when he presented the bait? If so,
great - I wouldn't introduce bait to your puppy!

> 
> I would love to read your opinions since all this dog showing and obediance
> in new to me and totally different from weight pulling.
> 
I don't know what you're worried about.  You have 10 points already, and both
of your major wins.  I'd stick with what you have been doing!

Great work!
Kim
> Brad Davidson
> owner-handler
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: N51LS801@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu
Subject: Rhodesian Ridgebacks
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:06:22 GMT

What is the temperament of the Rhodesian Ridgeback? Would one be likely
to make a good pet for a family with older children? with another dog and
a cat? Are there any health problems that are especially common in the
breed?
 
Thanks.
 
David Austin, NCSU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,misc.consumers.house
From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas Rand)
Subject: Re: Burglars and dogs: results of a survey
Organization: Open Software Foundation
	<1992Jul30.213156.17945@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>
	<DRAND.92Jul31133757@spinner.osf.org>
	<1992Jul31.182218.29106@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:25:02

In article <1992Jul31.182218.29106@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie) writes:

   In article <DRAND.92Jul31133757@spinner.osf.org> drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas Rand) writes:

   >The problem with any kind of trap is that it doesn't necessarily 
   >distinguish between victims.  Have any of you considered that the
   >"intruder"  could be your neighbor,  a little drunk perhaps?  or
   >a teenager in on a dare,  or even perhaps (and here's where not
   >knowing the beginning hurts) your child or a pet.  
   >
   >Your liability,  should you harm someone who is *not* clearly 
   >an intruder,  could be nearly limitless.

   In the first place, keeping of an animal is not considered a "trap". You
   are in exactly the same legal position you would be in if your pet boxer
   put this "friendly" intruder in the hospital.

Venomous snakes are not normal pets.  There *certainly* is an issue of 
being able to foresee the results of an action.  If you train your
dog to attack any unknown person ferrociously (vs. chasing them 
away) then yes, you'd be liable.  I'd claim that's as much of a 
trap as anything...   

Mind you,  keeping snakes in an aquarium is quite a 
different manner.  Hell on fish though..

In any case, most dogs aren't going to kill or permanently maim the
intruder and most dogs make their presense known before the person
even gets in the house.  (and are therefore fairly good deterents)

So what exactly is in the second place? :)

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Subject: Breed Research
Keywords:  Shelties & Welsh Corgis 
Reply-To: mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Organization: Novell, Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:15:10 GMT

Hi!!!!

I had posted previously regarding Dobies and had pretty much
decided to get one when I bought a house.  I've found the
house, but can't afford to replace the 4' fencing with something
a little more "dobie-proof".

Now I need to hear from people about dogs that would do well
as "Therapy Pet Pals" as I've decided to get involved in this
neat work.  In case you haven't heard about it, it's a group
of people who visit hospitals, nursing homes and re-heb centers
with their pets.

The woman who will be training my dog has suggested Welsh Corgis
and has agreed that my possible choice of a Sheltie would be a
good choice.  I'm looking for a "rescue" case and need some
suggestions.  The training to be provided will begin with basic
obedience with an eye to the much discussed "Canine Good Citizen"
certification.

I live in Austin Texas so the dog would need to do well in high
humidity and heat.  My house has a big back yard, but the dog
will spend most of it's time in the house and will HAVE to get
along well with my two cats.  I want a friend who loves to ride
in the car and socialize.  I realize that the car thing is really
a matter of training, but I need a dog who really gets into running
around with "Mom" as I plan on taking him/her with me everywhere
I can manage.

Let's hear from you dog-parents!

THANKS!!!
M'Linda


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From: asher@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Terri Asher)
Subject: My dog watches tv....
Reply-To: asher@syl.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 20:17:20 GMT

Hi everyone,

I've been reading this group for a little while, and I enjoy reading about
all of the interesting things your dogs do.  I haven't seen anything about
what my dogs do, though, and I was curious as to whether anyone else had
seen this.

I have two dogs, both mixes, but with mostly German Shepard in them (I
think).  Anyway, my larger dog stands just about eye level with where
our television is, and the crazy dog _watches_!  It's really pretty funny,
except that BELLa (stands for Big Ears and Long Legs, but together
it means 'pretty') stands right in front of the tv while we are trying while
to watch.  Her attention span isn't that long though, maybe a minute or so,
but she cocks her head first one way, then another, and she backs up whenever
they cut to a close up of someone's face, or change scenes.  My other dog,
Dusty, can't seem to understand what BELLa sees in the tv.  Dusty will push
BELLa with her nose, trying to get her to play and gets this hurt look on
her face when BELLa just ignores her.  Anyway, is my dog just weird, or did
everyone already have the 'My dog watches tv..' thread before I started reading?

Another interesting dog antic (I think) has to do with my sister's Yorkie.
This crazy little dog will sit in front of the mirrored closed doors for
hours at a time looking at herself.  When she doesn't know anyone is watching
she will sometimes roll over on her back, and look at herself upside down.
The first couple of times she saw herself, she went nuts trying to get into
the closet to look 'behind' the mirror.  Now, though, she seems to realize
there is nothing back there, but she still looks at herself.  She will
make eye contact with anyone behind her by looking in the mirror instead
of turning around.  She also started seeing her reflection in bathroom mirrors
and almost fell in the toilet trying to get on the counter to see better. She
has even seen her reflection in windows, and other glass, like the door of
my mother's washing machine.  I think it's pretty funny, but I can't remember
hearing about any dogs looking in the mirror, before.  Neither of my dogs,
and none of my mother's three other dogs do it.  Maybe the Yorkie is just odd.
Anyone else ever see any behavior like this?

Terri
From: snorthc@nswc.navy.mil (Stephen Northcutt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Wolf next door
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:26:25 GMT
Organization: NAVAL SURFACE WARFARE CENTER

I know the subject of wolf mixes has been discussed at length on
this group and I will try not to cover a lot of old ground.  I
am interested primarily since a wolf/malamute mix is now living
next door to me.  Bahia, is still a cub, about six months and
she moved in 5 - 6 weeks ago.  The first thing that went through
my mind is that it would be a good idea for my whole family to
meet her and let her become used to our scent.  She currently
LOVEs my dog Yogi and he is dominant (she leaves a puddle everytime
he approaches).

Does anyone know the status of rabies vaccines in molf mixes, I
remember about a year ago there was some traffic on this subject,
on this list, but I can't remember the conclusion.  Also weren't
there some laws being considered about breeding wolfs?

Finally, the folk next door are renting and I know the landlord and
I know he does not allow pets.  I don't intend to turn them in or
anything, that's not my cup o tea, but I wonder if the wolf gets
evicted. should I consider trying to take her over.  Right now she
is really beautiful, but her owner doesn't seem to have full voice
command over her, but I don't know if that is a function of her
breeding or his training.

Anywho, any advice and knowlege would be appreciated.  Thanks! 
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From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Australian Cattle Dogs (Blue/Red Heelers)
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:19:55 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Distribution: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <YOUNG.92Jul24173456@kuwait.gdfwc3>, young@gdfwc3 (Mark Young)
wrote:
> 
> I have been following for some time now and have seen no discussions on
> Heelers.  I have three Zeke, Sadie and Fats.  They are great dogs.  I 
> would love to hear from other Heeler owners out there. 

Hey Mark-

   I tried to mail you but it bounced !!!  Yes, there are a few of us ACD
lovers here on
the net.  Neat little four legged beasties aren't they ?   I can't imagine
my life without
them !!  I have trained and shown a number of other breeds, but my heart
lies at home
with my Cattle Dogs.

   For anyone interested, The Australian Cattle Dog Club of America holds
its National
Specialty next week in Costa Mesa California at the Orange County
Fairgrounds.  I got
entries back on Friday and as I recall there are 148 dogs entered and a
total of 250+
entries.  That many ACDs in one place..........wheeeee !!!   Anyone who
wants further 
details should e-mail me by Wednesday....it's a long drive from Illinois to
California !!

   Cattle Dog Kisses and Heeler Hugs to all !!

   Hopefully I'll have some brags to post when I get back !!!!
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Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed.........they're a way of life
!!!"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
Subject: Wonderful Stray Dog Needs Good Home
Reply-To: ak751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Saltzman)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 01:20:56 GMT


Male, neutered, 13 pound pug chihuahua mix, 3-5 years old.  Has had all 
shots, is housebroken, very well mannered, quite, affectionate.  We
found this dog as a stray a little more than a month ago, and can't keep
him in our apartment much longer.  Any information about a home for this
dog, or a good shelter if necessary, would be greatly appreciated.
Please call Mark or Andrea Saltzman, (216) 791-1438 (Cleveland Heights,
OH).
From: gbelli@opal.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Time enough for a dog?
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:41:47 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: news@jade.tufts.edu

In article <1992Jul19.143722.13827@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, u2zj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Stanton) writes:
> Hello Dog People:
> 
> Due to the demise of a long relationship and the subsequent purchase
> of a big echoing house, I would really like to get a dog, preferably
> a bigger dog rather than a smaller dog.
> 
> I've pored over the FAQs, checked books out of the library, but still
> can't quite convince myself that while it would be a good thing for
> me it would be in the best interest of the dog, since I work from 8:30
> or so until 5:30 or later, and no one is at home then.  I would devote
> mornings, evenings and weekends to a dog, and could dash home during
> lunch.  The nicest dog I ever had the pleasure to be with was a female
> Portugese water dog.
> 
> I'm not normally this anal, but a dog is a big thing to me.  My ex
> is a vet, and I was always impressed with her amazing way with animals:
> she was strong, kind and fearless, and every animal ended up loving her.
> I'm afraid I don't have the same talent.
> 
> If anyone with the same work constraints as mine could email me with
> their experience with a new dog, I would greatly appreciate it!
> 
> Thanks,
> Stanton Loh
> u2zj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
> stanton@chemres.tn.cornell.edu
I always felt that working people shouldn't have dogs, so after I left the
family homestead, I never got a dog (got a cat, though, not knowing that
they need as much attention as a dog).  When my father died this winter, 
the family dog was orphaned.  Against my better judgement, I took Spenser
in.  It's been an absolute success!  I feed him and let him out about 6AM,
and return from work about 5PM.  Knock on wood, he's never had an accident,
and has never destroyed anything.  He has knocked over the trash barrell,
but a little thought removed that temptation from him.  I think a factor 
in our success is that Spenser is a grown up dog (7 years old), and a 
beagle, a pretty laid back breed.  A puppy may not be appropriate for you,
but there are so many adult dogs in shelters, I'm sure you wouldn't
have any trouble finding a swell dog.  As long as you pay plenty of 
attention to the dog when you are home, I'm sure it would work out.
                                               Good luck!     
                                               Gretchen Belli
                                               Tufts University
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Concerns about poisoning by neighbor
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:53:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <92204.093752ASOLOMO@auvm.american.edu> 
	ari solomon <ASOLOMO@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>      We're growing increasingly alarmed by the hostile and irrational behavior
>      of a neighbor, and are especially concerned for our 1-year-old pup.
>         Has anyone used a succesful, fast, and humane method for food-proofing
>      a gentle dog? All the methods I've read about involve disapproving of the
>      dog for taking food from a stranger.

You must do this. You must also issue a stern correction for taking food off
the ground.  The only truly effective poison-proofing is to train your dog
only to take food from its very own bowl.

Kohler mentions food-refusal in a couple of his books.

If this sounds harsh, consider the effects of lobbing some poisoned meat
into your yard...

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