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From: cmurray@esk (Christopher John Murray)
Subject: Re: Oingo Boingo
Reply-To: rbanfiel@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 11:56:55 GMT

In article <slinkie.703213730@milton>, slinkie@milton.u.washington.edu (Rob Bakie) writes:
>
>
>I'd really like some music for Oingo Boingo.  Whatever anyone has figured out.
>
>
>Slinkie
>
>slinkie@u.washington.edu
>
>
 Do you want sheet music or tape music, and have you any to offer in rteturn

reply via e-mail if you can

		Raybans
-- 
                                       /  Choose the day..
        Email to:                     /  And choose the sign of your day..
   cmurray@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au  /  The days divinity..first thing
                                    /  you see ...     The Doors.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 20:28:53 EDT
From: <WKM101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: needed:used acoustic

dear geetar people,
   anyone selling a decent acoustic for a decent price?
get ahold of the goob in care of will. thanks.
wkm101@psuvm
alice is in wonderland, oz is over the rainbow,
and all the monsters live in midian...
From: jgllgher@unix1.tcd.ie (Macdara Gallagher)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Easy playing
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:19:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin

blumer@antioch.rtp.dg.com (Todd Blumer) writes:
> Is it the frets?  the difference in thickness of the neck?  Is there
> an _inexpensive_ way to improve the "playability" of the instrument?

try using lighter gauge strings.

Dara.
From: 2358michellp@vms.csd.mu.edu (Paul J. Michell)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Yamaha Price List? Advice!
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:37:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.00958BE7.B01721E0
Reply-To: 2358michellp@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

I've been watching the recent discussions  on Yamaha vs. Ibanez, and I'm
intrigued.  The general impression I got was that they are basically both about
the same quality, sound and construction wise.  Here's my question(s)....

1.  Does anyone have a price list for the Yamaha models?  I have the brochure
that is available from their 1-800 number, but alas, it has no prices!  If
price is comparable to Ibanez, I may decide to go Yamaha.

2.  Another question I have is:  I am also thinking of getting a new Fender
American Standard, or American Standard Plus...  Is it worth spending the
$650-$850 for a Fender, or should I go for a cheaper priced Yamaha or Ibanez? 
I am mostly concerned with sound quality and construction.  I want this guitar
to last me awhile.

Of course, I'll have to make the final decision on whichever guitar I chose
regarding how well it plays for me, but I'd like some popular opinion in the
matter!

Thanks in advance!



+==---------------==+==---------------------------==+
|  Paul J. Michell  |  2358michellp@vms.csd.mu.edu  |
+==---------------==+  michell@studsys.mscs.mu.edu  |
                    +==---------------------------==+
From: ben@cs.vu.nl (Bruschke BAH)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: where's alt.bass???!?!Wish I knew....
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:28:21 GMT
Distribution: alt

ibanez@ac.dal.ca writes:

>In article <JEPP.92Apr10155558@black.iesd.auc.dk>, jepp@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Petersen) writes:
>> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> 
>> Has alt.bass been created? 
>> We haven't recieved it at Aalborg University as yet, and it's been a
>> while since people talked about it.
>> If it has been created, what can I do to recieve it?
>> 
>> regards,
>> --
>> 
>   It has been created, but I have no idea when or where it will get to.
>Here at Dalhousie University, Halifax,Nova Scotia, I haven't seen any
>sign of it yet. We get alt.guitar and evrything else, so I hope we
>will be getting it soon. Have to have somewhere to talk about my
>new Yamaha TRB 6 string.........


>Slap That Bass - The Reason For Opposable Thumbs

>Later;
>jamie

   We haven't received it over here in Amsterdam. Isn't it a bit strange that
a newsgroup takes so long to get everywhere? Is there anyone who IS receiving
it? I'm not the impatient type, but this is getting very irritating.

				Ben

P.S. Ofcourse we al love to hear about your new Yamaha.


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From: v562f9vy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Wolverine)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: 50 Best Guitar Albums Poll
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am going to put together a list of the top 50 guitar albums of
all time, and I need your input.  I want to know exactly what 50
albums you would say had the most impact on the style of music
that you play.  If you think 50 is too much, I will take a list
of any size, but please do not exceed 50.  I will publish the
results after I receive a reasonable amount of entries (50
or so).  Thanks in advance for your co-operation.


                                  Wolverine


P.S.  my e-mail is <v562f9vy@ubvms.bitnet>
Please mail to me instead of posting.  You may do both, but please
send me a copy.
From: sarnold@bgsu.edu (G. Steve Arnold)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Looking for JT particulars
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:52:31 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.

yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel) writes:

> I read once in a magazine article that James often plays in "D" chord
> forms capoed up to "E".  This explained difficulties I had emulating
> his sound (I didn't think of a capo).  

	Yeah, it's not often that JT DOESN'T use a capo. In fact, he has
been known to (in the middle of a song and on the fly) rip the capo off
to change keys. Pretty freakey.


steve

-- 
   The only difference between a Communist        G. Steve Arnold
   and a Socialist is that the Socialist will     Dept. Math and Stats.
   only confiscate the resources that are         BGSU
   profitable.                                    sarnold@andy.bgsu.edu
                        "Keep circulating the tapes"
From: v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (L'ANGELO MYSTERIOSO)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: more than nuno
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:38:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

if you look close in the more than words video, you see that
he *does* use a pick for one particular part. for the other 99% 
of the song, he has it tucked in his fingers somewhere while
he fingerpicks.

mike
From: v056rcrx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chuck, the Fencing God)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: a guitar, 3 chords, and a REQUEST
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:12:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <32184@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, indigo@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Adam Schneider) writes...
> 
>In <72922@netnews.upenn.edu> simmonsb@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Dazed and Confused) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr6.165424.21798@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> behm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BEHM CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH) writes:
>>>	"Helpless" by Niel Young uses the same three chords
>>>	and I don't think it ever changes. G D C. The order
>>>	is left as an exercise to the reader <8^)
> 
>>BZZZZTTTTT!!!! Wrong.  "Helpless" goes D A G, the order is right and the rythmn
>>is pretty freakin easy to figure out.
> 
>  No, he's right.  G D C and D A G are the SAME CHORDS, but in a different key.
>If you insist on playing exactly the same notes as Neil Young does, then it's
>D A G, maybe, but I personally would rather play G D C any day.
> 
>3-Chord Wonder: "Land of Canaan" by Indigo Girls. G C G C etc. in the verse,
>                 then D for "I'm not your Land of Canaan..."
> 
>==-=--=---=----=-----=-------=---------=---------=-------=-----=----=---=--=-==
>Adam Schneider     indigo@ucscb.ucsc.edu     U.C. Santa Cruz     (408) 457-2172
>             "Your actions will follow you full circle 'round..."
>==-=--=---=----=-----=-------=---------=---------=-------=-----=----=---=--=-==

3-chord wonder?  almost ANY kinks song......but I LOVE THE KINKS!!!!

how about 2 songs that sound EXACTLY the same and have a total of 3 chords
between them????
again, the kinks!!!        'ALL DAY, AND ALL OF THE NIGHT'
                           'DESTROYER'
BTW, the Kinks are great in concert, all 3-chords of them!!!

                                   Chuck "Davies" Farnsworth
From: jasdzews@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary James Jasdzewski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: questions
Keywords: questions
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:22:40 GMT

Some questions.  Is there an FAQ with scales?

2.  What is the definition of "position"?  I, II, III, etc.

3.  My Korean Strat has 2 string "holders" on its head instead of one
    like American Strats.  Can I take the one holding the D and G
    strings off?  Can I buy better "holders"?  The reason I ask is
    that the strings catch when I tune, especially the G string, 
    which seems to be the most problematic string on every guitar.

4.  How do you deal with the damn volume knob when muting chords?  It
    is right in the way.

5.  Is there a recommendable nut to replace the stock plastic one?

Thanks to all.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: Les Paul
    <1992Apr6.191716.20317@sequent.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:37:26 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr6.191716.20317@sequent.com> cliffw@sequent.com writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.201642.25928@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> fkam_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Kevin McFadden) writes:
>>
>>	By the subject title you might think that I am continuing the
>>guitar thread, but I am not.  I am in fact wondering what Les Paul
>>did for the production/recording industry.  It is supposedly pretty 
>>revolutionary.
>
>Les Paul invented multi-track recording. 
>He designed the first 8-track deck. (made by Ampex) 
>He also was the first to do just about all the tape tricks -

another thing he did was to move people closer to microphones.
before him they all stood back about 3-4 feet (cause the mike
people said to).  can you imagine rock and roll with people
standing 3 feet back from the mike instead of smooching it? :)

aash
-- 
aash@ms.uky.edu, aash@ukma.bitnet     "the only thing i ever really wanted to
{backbone|rutgers|uunet}!ukma!aash     say was wrong, was wrong, was wrong."
aash@ukpr.uky.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: E-Bow
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:44:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.002426.5983@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>  
gunter@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Gunter Ahrendt) writes:
> Anyone out there use(d) an E-Bow, would like to hear some experiences.

I used to use it a lot. Makes great droning noises, and other things, but  
it's not easy to use on all strings equally, or multiple strings at all  
for that matter. It's designed to rest on the strings not in use, so it's  
not exactly like bowing--you can't really do more than one string at a  
time, and it kills the surrounding strings. But that can still be OK,  
depending on what you need to do.

AK
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ebshen@athena.mit.edu (Eric B Shen)
Subject: Re: my dog has fleas (was TAB: "Gloria" (U2) intro
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:55:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.004646.22001@cabezon.uucp>, larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley) writes:
|> 
|> 	I always thought "MDHF" was used as a tone mnemonic for
|> 	tuning ukuleles.  Damn; where is that Arthur Godfrey
|> 	character when you need him?!
I posted about the violins, cellos, etc.  We used to joke with it in the various
orchestras I had played in (I was a violinist since kindergarten, but now I play
guitar).

Someone else just posted about using it to tune ukuleles.  So I guess MDHF is a
pretty widely used thing.

Eric Shen
ebshen@athena.mit.edu
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:2397 rec.music.makers:5663
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: General Fender Information
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:20:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1992Apr14.022023.28939
Organization: Logic Automation Inc. of Beaverton Oregon


	I sent a letter to Fender a week or so ago and received three
	postcards from them today.  I had asked questions about amplifiers,
	and this is the response:

	1. (Regarding schematics for amplifiers)
	
	Dear Valued Customer:
	We would be happy to send you a schematic or owners manual.  Send
	a check for $5.00 for each schematic or manual to:

		Fender Musical Instruments
		Attn:  Nancy
		1130 Columbia Street
		Brea, CA  92621

	For further information call: 714-671-5665

	2.  (Regarding modifications to a Twin Reverb)
	
	Dear Valued Customer:
	We would be happy to answer your questions.  Please give us a call
	at 714-671-5665 on one of the days and times listed below:

				TECH HOURS

	Monday -- Friday 8:00 AM till 1:00 PM PST

	Our Techs are not available during their lunch period, 11:00 till
	11:30 daily or after specified hours listed above.

	3.  (Regarding buying parts direct from Fender)

	Dear Valued Customer:
	I am sorry to inform you that we do not sell parts to the public.
	You may order parts through a local Fender dealer, Warranty Service
	Center or Regional Service Center.

	If you need assistance with part numbers or your nearest dealer
	please contact us at 714-671-5665.

	-------------------------------------------------------------------

	I hope this may be of use to someone; I have not yet tried any of
	their product services, but they present the image of trying to be
	helpful.  I will be trying them before long; I'll let you know. 

	Add this to your list of phone numbers and addresses for musical
        instrument parts and makers:

	Fender Musical Instruments Corp.
	1130 Columbia Street
	Brea  CA 92621  USA

	and that phone number again....
	(714) 671-5665

	Hey, give 'em a call.  Nancy and the Techs may be getting lonely...

-- 

    Larry Huntley / Logic Modeling Corporation / Beaverton  OR
    Fire and Chains and/Fire and Chains and/Fire and Chains and...
                      [Stop Continental Drift!]
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: chenl@cbnewse.cb.att.com (julian.l.chen)
Subject: Kasha system ( was Acoustic theory )
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:14:26 GMT

>If you have ever read anything on the Kasha bracing system and
>the classical guitars he makes, he uses many small light braces instead
>of a few large ones (to control top vibration more closely according to
>him), increases the soundhole diameter to allow it to pump out more air
>(like Ovation), increase the body cavity size and increase scale length.
>This all increases the volume of the guitar.

Dr. Kasha does not make any guitars. He is a professor in Chemistry
and he has been very interesting in scientific guitar making methods.
He has associated with a few guitar makers to build his Kasha system
guitars. The most famous guitar maker that makes Kasha system guitars
is Richard Schneider. The Kasha system was first introduced around 1975
without too much success. Gibson build a series of Kasha system guitars
for a very short period of time. I have never played a Kasha system
guitar so I can not comment on the merit of Dr. Kasha. However, from
quite a few reviews and reports I read about Kasha system, and the
fact that none of the top classical guitarists ever played a Kasha
guitar in concert mark a big question mark on whether Kashs system
works or not. And quite a few makers that are making Kasha guitars
said that Kasha system worked better on steel string guitars.
By the way, while the Kasha steel string guitars looked quite
interesting, its classical version looked very ugly.

Julian
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: Homebuilt amps?
Summary: Torres Engineering
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:05:28 GMT


	First the most expensive thing in a tube amp is the transformer's.
	You need at least 2. The power supply transformer is probably going
	to run at least $100 to $180. The output transformer will probably
	run from $80 to $120 depending on the demand of the circuit.
	Complete set of tubes about another $80 to 100. The chassis is your own
	pick, as is the cabinet. The rest of the parts about another $100
	depending on what level of quality you need in your componets. I 
	wont even stab at the speaker cost.

 	So you got $500 spent before you even get started, this for a 50
	watter. This also does not take in the speakers. Heres were it gets
	better. Look in your local resell paper, we have one here called 
	Trade-n-Times. You can find Bassman or BandMaster heads all the 
	time for about $150 to $200. You call, you haggle, you get a price
	of $175(this is not unreasonable). New power tubes $36.00 a couple
	couple of pre-amp tubes $20.00. So you got maybe $230 wrapped up
	in this head. Now you have a functional head that can be modified.

	Torres Eng. sells kits to mod your amp. His kits are mostly for
	Fenders but he does have some Marshall kits also. I used to have
	his price list. This is from memory but I think you can convert
	a fender to 2 channel, 1 overdrive, 1 clean. with the tone controls
	functional for both channels for right around $100. You can add active
	tone controls for like $50. You can convert to EL34's for the price
	of the tubes plus $1. worth of parts. Also his kits come with complete
	instruction , step by step of where to start and what to do.

	This may not be what everybody wants,But it does save some money
	and design time .

	Disclaimer: I dont work for Torres, I have bought some of there kits.
		If anyone needs further info send email and I will return
		with what I have on him.

	
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: elee@descartes.waterloo.edu (Salty Freckles)
Subject: Re: Chords and guitar
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:01:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.143547.7208@sequent.com> cliffw@sequent.com writes:
>if ya can't mount the computer inside yer guitar and take
>it to the bandstand, that stuff is useless.
>
>you have the finest chord computer ever created,
>right between your ears. Learn to use it!
>
>a little time spent learning chord spellings, a little
>time learning the fingerboard, a simple piece of
>paper, and you can have *billions* of voicings
>for any chord in seconds. (i can show you how to get
>every voicing for any chord in minutes using only 
>one piece of paper...write me)
>
>as long as you relay on a chord book, chord computer or
>whatever, you are using a crutch- and you will never know
>more then whoever programmed the box, or wrote the book.
>
>learn how to think chords, and you will always be able
>to find the chord you need, even if you are alone on
>a dark stage with no other tools than your guitar....

I think you misunderstand the other uses of such a program other than a crutch.
I picked it up out of curiousity (having had years of music theory) but what I
found was that it serves as more of a teaching aid than a debilitating crutch.
The more someone uses that program, the better acquainted he will be with the
fretboard, chord shapes, inversions even under different tuning! It would take
a pretty witless individual to keep on using the program and not learn a thing
about theory, no matter how trivial or insignificant.

And the knowledge gained from such a program goes right where you said the
"finest chord computer ever created" was....

>-- 
>cliffw

Just a different perspective,
Gene Lee
elee@descartes.waterloo.edu
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:1916 rec.music.makers:5474
From: mzraly@cs.umb.edu (Michael S. Zraly)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Need verse in "Baby Please Don't Go"
Keywords: n
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:29:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UMass/Boston Dept. of Math & CS

acura@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (james.r.feeney) writes:
>I'm looking for the words to a verse in "Baby Please Don't Go" by Joe
>Williams. The copy of the song I have is an old version by "THEM", Van
>Morrisson's old band. The verse I need sounds like he's saying,
>
>Fought me dog, fought me a dog
>fought me a dog to get you way down here
>make you walk a log, baby please don't go
>
>This doesn't make much sense to me, but you never know. Anyone know what the
>words are?

There are variations in every version of this song I've heard (AC/DC,
Muddy Waters, Ted Nugent (solo & with Amboy Dukes), Willy & the Poor
Boys, ...).  The verse I recall that most sounds like yours is from
the Amboy Dukes (or was it AC/DC ?)

	Well I'll be your dog
	Well I'll be your dog
	get you way down here
	make you walk a log
	baby please don't go

What, it's supposed to make sense?

Get AC/DC's "74 Jailbreak" EP -- killer version of this song, and the rest
of it is pretty good too!


Cheers,
  Mike
-- 
Mike Zraly		"The first duty of a revolutionary is
mzraly@cs.umb.edu	to get away with it." -- Abbie Hoffman
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: grady@beaufort.sfu.ca (A. Brian Grady)
Subject: Re: Finger exercises
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:26:50 GMT

bulger@ug.cs.dal.ca (Fred Bulger) writes:


>   Here uponrequest are some more finger exercises to improve your ability and
>also to warm up with.
[... exercise explained...]

I learned a similar exercise:
                               the Crab Walk.
 
Place first (1) and ring (3) fingers on the 1st string, 1st fret
and 2nd string, 3rd fret, respectively at the same time. Pluck both strings.
Take 1 and 3 off, put middle finger (2) on 2nd string, 2nd fret,
little finger (4) on 1st string, 4th fret. Hopefully the pictures
below are clear now, and you do the next 2 figures in the top
row.
You then widen the gap, (as in the 2nd row of figures), so you
use the same pattern but use the 1st and 3rd strings, then the
1st and 4th, etc to 1st and 6th. Then you can narrow the gap,
going to 2nd and 3rd, then 2nd and 4th, and so on, so you are
having to reach over the fingerboard.
 
   e  |1| | | |   e  | | | |4|   e  | | |3| |   e  | |2| | |
N  b  | | |3| |   b  | |2| | |   b  |1| | | |   b  | | | |4|
E  g  | | | | |   g  | | | | |   g  | | | | |   g  | | | | |
C  d  | | | | |   d  | | | | |   d  | | | | |   d  | | | | |
K  a  | | | | |   a  | | | | |   a  | | | | |   a  | | | | |
   e  | | | | |   e  | | | | |   e  | | | | |   e  | | | | |
 
   e  |1| | | |   e  | | | |4|   e  | | |3| |   e  | |2| | |
N  b  | | | | |   b  | | | | |   b  | | | | |   b  | | | | |
E  g  | | |3| |   g  | |2| | |   g  |1| | | |   g  | | | |4|
C  d  | | | | |   d  | | | | |   d  | | | | |   d  | | | | |
K  a  | | | | |   a  | | | | |   a  | | | | |   a  | | | | |
   e  | | | | |   e  | | | | |   e  | | | | |   e  | | | | |
 
To vary this exercise, I put fingers down individually, instead
of in pairs to help coordination. I usually start this exercise
in 8th position, with index finger on fret 8, and work down to
the wider frets.
From: jnelson@lonestar.utsa.edu (John P. Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Zeppelin TAB
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:50:59 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


     Could somebody either post or e-mail me any or all Led Zeppelin TAB
stuff??  Preferably acoutic Jimmy, but anything will do (NOT Stairway, tho..)

jnelson@lonestar.utsa.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar