From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: Pregnancy v. Parenthood
Organization: Who, me???
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:54:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.212034.19415@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.050009.29873@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Jul15.190345.8500@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price) writes:
>>>In <1992Jul15.000936.23520@cfctech.cfc.com> kevin@cfctech.cfc.com (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>>
>>>>In article <1992Jul14.183221.9819@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price) writes:
>>>>>In <Br3DoJ.8Ew@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com> wreck@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com (R. Cage) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>And when choosing not to be pregnant, a woman also chooses
>>>>>>not to become a parent.  Indeed, that is likely to be her
>>>>>>sole motivation for becoming un-pregnant.
>>>>>
>>>>>     This statement is not correct.
>>>
>>>>Which statement(s) in particular, and what's "not correct" about it/them?
>>>
>>>     That a woman's sole motivation for abortion is likely the desire
>>>not to become a parent.
>>>     Why? Ohh, I don't know...how about desire not to spend months of
>>>her life nauseous, 
>>
>>Okay, that's specific to pregnancy.
>>
>>>desire not to be judged by judgmental society, 
>>
>>This one, on the other hand, is a consequence of "becoming a parent".
>>
>     You mean a heavily pregnant, unmarried girl is not judged until she
>gives birth? Interesting idea.

You mean a single woman without a man around the house isn't ever judged?
Interesting idea.

>>>desire
>>>not to share her body with an unwanted stranger squatting inside her for
>>>nine months, 
>>
>>Another pregnancy-specific reason.
>>
>     That's three. 
>>
>>>desire to live a normal life, keep her job, go to school,
>>
>>Some more consequences of "becoming a parent".
>>
>     Kevin Darcy seems to feel that pregnancy does not impede a woman
>from living a normal life, keeping her job, or going to school. What a
>bizarre idea.

M. Price seems to think that raising a family alone does not impede a
woman from living a normal life. What a bizarre idea.

>>>desire not to go through the agony of childbirth or the discomfort of
>>>pregnancy. 
>>
>>And we finish up with yet more pregnancy-specific reasons.
>>
>     That's five.
>
>>>Becoming a parent sounds positively wonderful in comparison.
>>
>>You seem to be extremely confused about what "becoming a parent" actually 
>>entails. It's not just an abstraction -- becoming a parent involves some
>>concrete and real life-changes. Life-changes for which many women don't 
>>feel ready. No-one's saying that pregnancy is a picnic -- what we're saying
>>is that what happens AFTER pregnancy is often no picnic either...
>>
>     I understand that. It seems to be easier for men to understand the
>problems of being a parent as opposed to those of being pregnant--hence
>blanket statements like (paraphrased) "most women have abortions in
>order to avoid becoming parents."

Strike the word "most". Replace it with "a significant percentage of". Then
you'll be close to the meaning of the ACTUAL quote, instead of this straw
man you've been attacking for days now...

								- Kevin
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