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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Re: In The Village with Number 6
Keywords: framboise peche kriek
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:45:50 GMT

gelly@persoft.com (Brewing Chemist Mitch) writes:

>Greetings.
>
>I realize that there is an alt.tv.prisoner group, but as my poor (sniff) site
>does not grant us alt groups, I must (under gunpoint) pose my query here.

	Ne meither!!  (Well, at least not all of 'em.)  I'd read the
prisoner one, as well as the Ren-and-Stimpy one, in all likelihood.   

>Is there an alt.tv.prisoner FAQ ? Could someone mail it to me ?

	Me too, please?  I have loads of questions, and I'm sure they're
frequently asked. 

>I remember the show from my childhood (vaguely), and am now re-watching them
>via the Sci-Fi Channel. Does Number 6 ever escape from the Village ? Did the
>series have a graceful ending, with closure, or was it left hanging ?

	The ending was cool, in my opinion.  Just 'cuz something was not
easy to understand doesn't make it bad.  The DC sequel comic book did
answer some of my questions about the ambiguity, though.  BTW (probably a FAQ), is Patrick McGoohan still alive?  
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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: DELIVER US FROM EVIL (AND SPOILERS!)
Date: 11 Nov 1992 04:17:42 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
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Leap while you can.



























Okay, too late.  

In the words of Sam (at beginning of SLSB, or end of KT):
"Oboyoboyoboy!"

This show excited me and put chills down my spine...at the same time!  (Gee,
did I make that rhyme?)  There were times when I thought Alia didn't have her
heart in what she was doing, and other times when I absolutely hated her!  
Her way of getting Jimmy institutionalized--claiming he/Sam attacked her and
*then defending him* was great--a surefire way to get the job done.  Absolute-
ly wicked.

The first scene between Connie and Zoey through me way off at first, although I
figured it out soon enough.  Kudos to the writers for not having Zoey being 
shown as a hologram in that first scene.  Her appearance--straight out of the
sixties--only made this scene even better.

Connie's "metamorphosis" into Alia was truly breathtaking, and a fine job on 
the part of the FX team assigned to do it.  Does anybody know what other TV/
film projects the FX metamorphosis team has been involved in?

The chamber door for Zoey's imaging chamber was cool, too, more like a distur-
bance in the air than a holographic door.  I'm hoping to see Project: Dark 
Quantum Leap (P:DQL) itself as we see more of Alia and Zoey.

The ending had me confused.  Why did Sam leap two days ahead after Alia left?
What happened to Jimmy during those two days?  Why the heck DID Sam leap back
into Jimmy again, instead of just leaping on to his next adventure?  IMO, he
still had to realize that he had NOT seen the last of Alia--not by a long shot.
But I may be wrong.

Was anybody else as excited by the ad for "Daughter of Sin" as I was?  I only
hope NBC doesn't ruin the trilogy/miniseries by airing parts 2 and 3 back-to-
back, like I heard here on the net.  I mean, it's a *three-parter*, for cry-
ing out loud!  Putting the last two parts back-to-back would be like having
a two-part episode--with part 2 being double-sized.  Sally?  Any word?

All in all, DUFE was the most exciting and spine-tingling episode of QL yet,
and definitely one of the best this season.  But, of course, the season's 
still young...

There was just *one* thing missing:  I would have LOVED to see Jimmy "meta-
morphosize" into Sam!  :)
				--MikE
Pay no attention to the sig file behind the curtain.

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Subject: QL: Deliver Us opinions (SPOILERS)
From: <MRM122@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:17:40 EST
Organization: Penn State University

The following contains spoilers from the 11/10/92 episode, so consider
yourself WARNED!

OK, we had a really great start to this episode, seeing all that Jimmy has
achieved in the past two years. So far, so good.  Then we see tension at the
LaMotta house, and Ziggy is going psycho.  History is being changed, and Sam
isn't doing anything.  We think the Evil Leaper is the girl that Frank is
seeing, but NO, it is in fact Connie.
The "melt away" affect was a very nice touch, but then we have a flaw.  After
that happens, Al sees Alia as Alia and Zoey sees Sam as Sam.  But, the common
belief around here (not one that I hold, however) is that Al sees Sam as the
leaper, which this seems to contradict.  who knows.  Sam is blinded by the fact
that he has met a kindred soul, as is Alia to an extent.  Al is simply confused
by it all, which leaves only Zoey with a clear head- who uses it: "Don't tell
him anything!"  Advice Sam could have used.  He tells her so much while she
manages to avoid revealing anything (much to the annoyance of THIS viewer).
Part of the problem with this is the fact that Alia was always plugged as: "The
Evil Leaper".  We KNEW, despite her confusion in all this, that she was lying
about trying to help Jimmy, and that she was evil...  We KNEW she'd turn on
Sam.  But, despite knowing, when she did was so powerful.  I give Renee Coleman
two BIG thumbs up for her expression when she scratched her face and ripped her
slip- evil, cold and nasty.
Some of Maresca's Theories: Where did Alia come from?  We hadn't felt ANY
effects from her before, and what Ziggy said was changing for Alia to have done
 it all as connie (floods, etc.).  She couldn't have been leaping all this time
 without being noticed earlier.  My theory: The Tape from Starlight Starbright.
Also, were they demons or people?  People in my book, at least Alia... maybe
not Zoey.  Were they in more direct contact with their leaping force?  Hard to
say.  To many open strings (no pun) with her... but we KNOW she will be back.

Alia's leap was pretty cool, if painful.  My theories: One, she's from further
in the future, and therefore can get cooler special FX, or Two: She's evil,
thus leaping is controled by evil, thus it's painful (and has cooler FX).
People will say that Zoey's lines about crawling out of whatever implies they
were in hell, but she talks about Alia's nightmares.  Alia is not stable (big
shocker there!) and probably cannot stand being other people... she made a
whispered comment to that end.
This episode also made some anti-feminist comments.  Sam and Al were good,
while Alia and Zoey were evil, but on top of that, Sam refers to the Evil
Leaping Force as "her".  Hmm...
Enough rambling on my part for now...


                        Marshall Ryan Maresca
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From: istn100@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: X-Men:  The Animated Series (*Minor Spoilers*)
Organization: Purdue University, Indianapolis
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:31:29 -0500

In article <1NOV199222424829@csa1.lbl.gov>, watts@csa1.lbl.gov (PAUL N WATTS) writes:
> In article <1cunogINNdll@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
> (Charles E Gibbs) writes...
> 
> [Review of X-Men series deleted]
> 
> This post belongs in rec.arts.comics.xbooks, not here.  I think it's safe to
> assume you'll find more interest in that group than you will here.
> 
Why?  The X-Men series being discussed here is a TELEVISION show, not a comic
book.  Seems to me that r.a.sf.tv is the perfect place.  

Ellen - the crime doctor
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From: vjmurphy@carina.unm.edu (Vincent J. Murphy)
Subject: QL: Deliver Us From Evil (Spoilers Ho!)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 09:21:52 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: QL evil


    Spoilers ahead:


    I think it would have been more interesting if the 'evil' leapers
were actually not evil, but just working at cross purposes. Perhaps Alia
and Zoey could have been trying to help the secretary get her life
back on track...after all, even Sam's leaps must be damaging to certain
people's lives.
   I would like to see and episode, though, in which Sam loses and Alia
wins. After all, Sam can't always win, can he?


-- 
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From: ied1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ingrid de Beus)
Subject: QL:Deliver Us From Evil <spoilers>
Reply-To: ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:06:35 GMT

Hello all! just a few comments and questions about Deliver Us from Evil.
 ahr, captain, there be spoilers here... <hope this works!>


  I actually like the episode.  I thought the introduction of Alia,
herself, was well done, if a little late in the episode.  I thought
Zoey was great! especially as she leered at Sam.  She deserved Al's
thoroughly laughable "Because she's Evil" line much more then Alia.
Speaking of which, I can understand why Zoey and Al wouldn't be able
to see or hear each other -- different brainwave frequencies or what
have you, but I'm dissappointed, anyway.  I bet Al would have been
totally repulsed by her -- the put-downs they could have both had! ah,
well.  I *loved* Zoey's door effect.  Very cool.  Great use of
morphing for the Connie/Alia transformation, too.  But by far the best
part of the episode, imho, is Alia's leap out.  That looked *painful*
-- it was practically an explosion.  But did she leap to a new
'assignment', or did she go back to her "worst nightmare" like Zoey
threatened? I loved Zoey's last line, too.  "I swear I'll kill you!"
-- made her sound almost like Al.

And of course the big question: Were they agents of another, alternate
Project Quantum Leap, or where they something more supernatural? 
Some of Zoey's comments, while trying to convince Alia near the end,
where pretty scary.. "We crawled our way through Hell to get easy
assignments like home-wrecking and adultery.." and "Do you want to
go back to your worst nightmare?" followed by Alia's "I couldn't
kill all those people again.."  what is going on here? To me, those
lines imply something very sinister about these ladies' origins. 
Does failure imply a return to the beginning of her leaps, to Alia?

And then there's Lothos, the AI-From-Hell.  I'm not sure, but isn't
Lothos a name of one of the fallen angels?.. I'll have to go look it
up.  That would put another twist on things, wouldn't it? And he gives
Alia and Zoey 'assignments'... brrr.. even if they come from an actual
man-made project, I wouldn't want to be there.  And Connie was! I
would NOT want to be stuck in their Waiting Room!

Well, those are my comments.. 

damn creepy, this episode.  <shiver>

ingrid-
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From: jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley)
Subject: Re: QL: Deliver Us opinions (SPOILERS)
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:52:15 GMT

Wait, I've seen a few references to "Starlight Starbright" in
reference to a possible explanation as to Alia's origin, but
I don't get the reference.  Can someone explain?

  -Jenni

"Theorizing that one could travel through Boston on the MBTA,
Dr. Sam Beckett stepped onto the Green Line...and vanished!
Trapped on the `T', Dr. Beckett finds himself leaping from
station to station, using `T' Passes that are not his own...
His only companion is Al, a `B' line car that only Sam can
see and ride..."
From: say@trboun.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: RE: SF-LOVERS Digest   V17 #601
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:11:53 GMT

Subject: IMO Quantum Leap is a bad show

... because, (SPOILER!!!!) in the Vietnam episode, it said that God (or
whatever you name the Controller of Leaps) values the lives of Americans
more than the lives of Vietnamese; and this is unacceptable for me. Of
course they have the right to say anything that they like, but that was
the episode which definitely turned me off. Add to this political
"incorrectness" all the terrible internal inconsistencies which make up
a consistently growing portion of the series, and what you get is a bad,
certainly below-average show. Definitely not in the same league with even
the animated Star Trek.
(The show is no longer broadcast in Turkey, so I have no way of knowing
whether it improved in the later seasons.)

Peace,
Cem Say
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Covington Cross on Hiatus
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:40:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: na
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In article <1992Nov9.185544.16017@netcom.com> sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:
>It's not on hiatus, it's canceled. Rung down the curtain and joined the
>choir invisible, it's dead, Jim. ABC says they'll play off the remaining
>ep's sometime in 1993.
>
Maybe USA or The Family Channel will pick it up; it was REALLY good.
I'll keep my Covin--er, *fingers* crossed!
				--MikE


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From: mirin@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Mirin Lew)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:06:42 GMT
Subject: Re: highlander - humph
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv

In rec.arts.sf.tv, Paul Tyma <3MC3CNR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>   Well..  I lost a bit of enthusiasm with the series with this episode
>   "Free Fall".
>   1. MacLeod gets in a fair fight (in the end) with a female immortal who
>      came after Tessa (and would have killed her), tricked him with evil
>      intent and killed babies (granted Highlander didn't know that);
>      MacLeod wins (oh yeah she ruined a 200000 dollar (or ..uh. he did)
>      whatever), then DOES NOT KILL HER!!  The plot built enough to bring
>      me to a point where I had great dislike of her.  Bullocks.

I think the main reason why Duncan didn't kill her was because Richie
was there.  He knows that Richie was rather involved with Felicia, and
probably didn't want to have him see her beheaded before his eyes.

On a rather unrelated point, who is Tessa and how did she meet up with
Duncan?  I missed the first few episodes.


Mirin Lew
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From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "DUfE": observations
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:18:25 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <l+dqfh@lynx.unm.edu>, kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.200015.12038@midway.uchicago.edu> rck1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>
 







My system has a bad habit of destroying ^L's, so I've added some blank
lines.









> 
>>And if she can be swayed once, by a speech like that, she can be
>>swayed again. And again...
>>
> You're sure about that... :)
> 

[some very interesting speculation deleted to save bandwidth]
 
> Zoe, I think we can assume, is Evil.  Did anyone really see any redeeming 
> characteristics in that "woman"?  Alia may not be Evil to Sam, but then, she
> doesn't know him yet.  Give her another few appearances, and she could be quite
> tired of Mr. Beckett...
> 
> ...though she'd probably be the only female around to think so.  Geez, where
> do _I_ get a holographic friend and a time-zapping computer???
 
I'll volunteer, but only if we fix the handlinks so Al and I can exchange
phone numbers, at least . . . :-)


> Oh, and as for the contingent who says "Oh, gee, I'd love to see Al hit on
> Zoe!!!!!!"...oh, pleeeeeze.  Not only is she homely, but evil and rotten 
>to the core.

But, as Sally predicted, Carolyn Seymour played her wonderfully.  I can't
wait to see them again so we can figure out what the heck is really going
on.  If I were Sam, on my next N leaps, where N is a very large integer, I'd
be grabbing everyone I met to see if it was Alia.  Of course, she's probably
at least partially swiss-cheesed out of his mind for now.

> 
> Anyone else think they should have made Donna the Evil Leaper?  :)

Oooooh!  Good idea.  Lets *really* mess with Sam's mind!
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From: jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells)
Subject: Re: Trek TNG's Dyson Sphere
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:19:46 GMT

rkk@MAIL.LIB.DUKE.EDU (Randy Kloko) writes:


>          1. Is Scotty's Dyson sphere going to be the "abandoned alien
>          space station" rumored to appear in "Deep Space Nine"?

No, the space station in DS9 is an abandoned Cardassian station orbiting
Bajor. The Dyson Sphere is way too big to be a psace station--remember,
it's as big as the Earth's revolution around the sun!

>          2. If Troi can empathically detect deception and Geordi can
>          tell with his visor when a human is lying, how can Ryker
>          consistently beat them at Poker?

They refrain from their special abilities. I remember reading this in
one of the novels, I believe.

>          3. Wouldn't James Burke (of "The Day the Universe Changed"
>          and "Connections") make a good Dr. Who?

>          4. Is it true that Dan Qualye is going to host a new morning
>          exercise show for PBS called "The Body Politic"?


>          Randy Kloko
>          Perkins Library
>          Duke University
>          rkk@mail.lib.duke.edu

...I have no idea about #3 and #4...!

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From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: RE: QL: Deliver Us opinions (SPOILERS)
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:26:28 GMT

In a previous article, jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) wrote:
>In article <92315.221740MRM122@psuvm.psu.edu> <MRM122@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>The "melt away" affect was a very nice touch, but then we have a flaw.  After
>>that happens, Al sees Alia as Alia and Zoey sees Sam as Sam.  But, the common
>>belief around here (not one that I hold, however) is that Al sees Sam as the
>>leaper, which this seems to contradict.  who knows.  
> 
>	DUFE seemed to destroy that theory pretty thoroughly.  And it was
>probably killed just so that Sam, Al, Alia, and Zoe could find each other (to
>an extent).
> 

My first post, but I've been watching QL since the first episode.  However,
this season has really got me excited enough to do a post, and maybe start
forgetting about Dr. Who!  Notice how QL is getting more like DW.  There is now
an equivalent of the Master.  And I find even the name Zoe to be a bit ironic,
as that was the name of a long time companion of the Doctor.  How often do you
see that name used?  It can't be a total coincidence.  Does anyone know what
the recent ratings are of QL?

Alia can't be from too far in the future, assuming that they have not
figured a way around lifetime limitation.  And just how many leapers might be
leaping around the same time?  Could get pretty crowded, unless there is a
limitation of one bad and one evil leaper at the same time.

Mark London
MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU
From: rogrif@SNLL-ARPAGW.LLNL.GOV (griffith richard o)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Highlander - TV Series
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:59:54 GMT

I greatly enjoyed the original Highlander movie, and managed to avoid
seeing the second film, Highlander 2: The Sickening based on the extremely
negative reaction here on the net.  Perhaps it is the fact that I missed
the second movie, or perhaps I am merely starved for a continuation of the
Highlander theme and storyline, but I find myself REALLY liking the series.
Quick, someone provide a reality check:  is the series actually decent, or
should I go off and slap myself silly?

As long as I am writing, *** SPOILERS ***

Someone just mentioned that in the Joan Jett episode, Duncan lets her keep
her head at the very end, when he had ample justification to whack it off.
This gives the impression that he is a "nice" guy.  However, in the "DIE
HARD 3" episode in the courthouse, he gleefully chops up multiple badguys
without even atempting to "take them alive".  I wonder if a previous poster
was on to something:  it's ok to kill MEN, but not to off ladies, no matter
what the provocation.  If I may widen the discussion, I am having trouble
thinking of occasions on TV or in movies where a male hero actually kills
a female villain, rather than defeating her and then having mercy.  Lots
of female heros kill MALE badguys...  is this some kind of strange reverse
discrimination in our society?

richard griffith
From: jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL:New Blood Revenge
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:20:56 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <1dngpeINN3ed@mozz.unh.edu> mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.031112.2887@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> jenkirtl@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Jennifer Kirtley) writes:

(I asked if any one knew when the QL Novel was written, to which Michael
responded -- )
>

>Try the copyright date in the first pages of the book; it'll give you some 
>idea.
>

Well, that tells me when the book was published, but not really when it
was written.  The descrepancies between the book and the show *could*
be explained if the book was written early on in QL `history' (?!?);
the `rules' hadn't been fully proscribed.  But the recent copyright date
seems to blow that theory out of the water.  Of course, there is an
elegantly simple explanation -- the writer could have just been wrong. 
I was just wondering if anyone knew.



  -Jenni

"Theorizing that one could travel through Boston on the MBTA,
Dr. Sam Beckett stepped onto the Green Line...and vanished!
Trapped on the `T', Dr. Beckett finds himself leaping from
station to station, using `T' Passes that are not his own...
His only companion is Al, a `B' line car that only Sam can
see and ride..."
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