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Newsgroups: rec.photo
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 15:16:15 -0400 
From: Luis Abdon Cifuentes <lc0v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Vivitar VI Enlarger parts?

Does somebody knows where can I find a lens board for a Vivitar VI enlarger?
I have just one, and it's a pain to chage the lens every time I switch formats.

Btw, how does people like this enlarger? I got it used and it seems
pretty good to me, but I haven't seen it mentioned here. Why did Vivitar
stop making it?

Luis
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ong@a.cs.okstate.edu (ONG ENG TENG)
Subject: Re: Amateur film processing at home.
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 03:20:54 GMT

From article <1992Apr6.215153.8807@unx.sas.com>, by sch@gargoyle.unx.sas.com (Steve Holzworth):
> maintaining process calibration (#3). I DO, however, print my own work.
> I also have a tabletop processor to process my prints. Face it, despite
> the relative ease of processing (#2), and with a few exceptions, processing 
> (color) film or paper is a rote task. There just aren't alot of variables
> involved. Black and white offers more creative aspects to the processing,
> but takes a while to become good at (#1). You would probably get more
> enjoyment out of PRINTING (enlarging, cropping, color/contrast balancing)
> than you would PROCESSING.

I have seen those tabletop color processor, how good are they?  Do they
need a lot of space?  What water source is needed?  Chemicals?  Why don't
you just give a complete description of your experience (including cost).
Thanks. 
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Subject: Re: Question on EOS 10S and ELAN
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:16:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.194619.24162@lmpsbbs.mot.com>, chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu) writes:
> 
> 	Yikes...I wouldn't call the Elan "low end". I think it was said
> best by whoever noted that the 10S and Elan are complement cameras since
> the Elan incorporates a few new Canon EOS features brought out since the
> 10S.

Though the Elan is a fine camera, Canon intended it to fill the gap between
the 10s and the Rebel(S). It sells for about the same as a 10s, but if you
look at the Canon "list" price, the Elan is significanly lower in price -
I forget the numbers, but the 10s "lists" around $700, and the Elan around
$500 or so. I suspect the Elan is priced high (retail) because it is a new
camera. I would expect it to bottom out at about $250 as it ages (similar
to the pricing of the 630). That the Elan is maybe a "low end" EOS just
goes to show how good the EOS line is!!!


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Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
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Newsgroups: rec.photo,can.general,misc.legal
From: faust@vpqrb1.enet.dec.com (Stephen R Faust)
Subject: Re: What is required to sell pictures?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  6 APR 92 11:22:07    


In article <10417@ncrcan.Canada.NCR.CA>, tnelson@ncrcan.Canada.NCR.CA (Tim Nelson) writes...
>I want to start a small business selling some of my hobby photos, but
>I wonder what the legal restrictions would be in selling pictures with
>other people in them.
> 
>I have many pictures with identifiable faces, so I would like to know
>if there are restrictions on selling a picture of someone else.
> 
>Generally is it a good idea to get a waiver before hand, and if so,
>does anyone have a generic copy they could send me? (by email?)
> 
>I am in Canada, so perhaps someone can also give pointers on legal
>restrictions which are Canadian specific.
> 
>Any recommendations you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
> 
>thanx
>tim
>-- 
>Tim.Nelson@Canada.NCR.COM
>NCR Canada +1 416 819 4112

Tim, I dont know about what is required in Canada, but it is very close with
the requirements here in the US with a few differences.

Basicaly, you will be required to have a model release for photos with people
included, identifiable or not, for any usage in advertising for commercial
work. Agencies or photo buyers will not touch it otherwise. For educational,
news, text books, etc, you are not required to have a release, but one always
helps, and keeps you protected. You will also need a property release to 
cover advertising and corporate type work.

I would suggest that you call a local stock photo agency, and ask them their
guidelines regarding releases. Since they are in the business of selling photos,
they will have a handle on whats required.

(or just copy other peoples photos! Since they are not in the business of
 selling photos themselves, no one gets hurts, and the original photograher
 should have no right to sue you! At least thats what I'm hearing from some
 here.)  :-) :-)

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Digital Equipment Corp.                            faust@bagels.enet.dec.com
Networks and Communications                                   (508) 486-7433
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From: ken@racerx.UUCP (Ken Hardy)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: mechanical cameras
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:40:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Planet Earth

In article <104@metran.UUCP> jay@metran.UUCP (Jay Ts) writes:
>This brings into mind the possibility that as soon as (relatively) free
>trade opens up between the U.S. and Russia, that very inexpensive Russian
>cameras will be available here.

   I wanted some screw-mount lenses for my old Pentax and asked a
   friend of mine in Moscow about prices as he was coming to US for a
   while and could (theoretically) buy some Russian-made lenses for
   roubles, which are about 70-100 for a dollar.  The prices he quoted
   me were not so good even with the current lopsided exchange rate; I
   ended up buying a few used lenses from someone advertising here.

   I don't know the business plan of the enterprise making the cameras
   and lenses, but I'd not be at all surprised if they are selling as
   many as they can for hard currency at market prices.  I would expect
   a stabilization of the economic situation in the CIS states to
   eventually cause the exchange rate to even out a bit.  (I seem to
   recall reading that the target rate is about 25-35 roubles to the
   dollar.)  In any case, they will still sell for what the market will
   bear, taking quality into account.

   You see Zenits advertised for about $100 (more or less).  At current
   rates, that's about 10 thousand roubles -- well over an average
   year's salary in Russia.  I doubt it takes anywhere near a man-year
   to produce the camera!  So just because it's cheap to produce, it
   won't be *that* cheap to buy; it will be priced with comparable
   cameras of other makes.  And a flatter exhange rate will make the
   relative cost of production higher, not lower.

>I think it would be interesting to own one.  Does anyone know much about
>the Russian brands?  The only one I know of is Kiev.  Are the lens mounts
>compatible with Nikon by any chance, or is that asking too much?

   The February (I think) Popular Photography had a cover story about
   low-end 35mm SLRs.  One reviewed was the Russian-made Zenit.  The
   article did not cover the medium-format (I think) Kiev.  I don't recall
   specifically what it said about the Zenit.

-- 

Ken Hardy
ken@bridge.com  (racerx!ken)
From: ark@alice.att.com (Andrew Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: B&H: Please help!
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:18:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.22582
Reply-To: ark@alice.UUCP ()
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Liberty Corner NJ

In article <74040@netnews.upenn.edu> liang@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Chuck Liang) writes:

> >My previous experience with Cambridge said that phoning them don't work
> >(I waited for about 3 months for the goods, they charged the card the day
> >it was ordered).  

> >Well?  Do I have to resort to calling my credit card company?

> yes

No.

If you have a dispute regarding a credit card, state your claims in
writing.  That way you have a record of what happened.

You have to write to them anyway when you pay your bill; why not just
enclose a letter with what you think is the correct payment?
-- 
				--Andrew Koenig
				  ark@europa.att.com
From: david@baervan.nmt.edu (David Fritchman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: flash bulbs for sale/trade
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:17:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Petroleum Recovery Research Center, NMIMT

I have two boxes of Sylvania "press 25" flash bulbs for sale/trade,
each full.  I tested one out of another partial box, and it worked.
I can not make promises on the rest, of course, but the "blue dots"
on each are still blue.  You pay shipping for the bulbs, I pay shipping
if I decide to trade for hardware.

I would consider trading the bulbs for some outdated b/w 620 film to
test the camera the bulbs came with.

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: tonyb@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Tony Berke )
Subject: Re: Need source for lens repair tools
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab - Group 43
Distribution: usa
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:22:03

In article <1992Apr7.173529.17952@adobe.com> meastman@adobe.com (Mark Eastman) writes:

   I'm looking for a source for tools such as
   optical spanner wrenches to take apart a ...

SK Grimes in Boston MA markets an optical spanner for a fairly small amount
of money ($20 - $30).  I've found that it is best used in a vise -- turning the
lens against the spanner is much more stable than the other way around,
especially with large optics.

Good luck,

Tony
From: daveb@slotown.Corp.Sun.COM (David Baxter)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Where to buy in South Bay - Nikon 8008s
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:31:02 GMT
Reply-To: daveb@slotown.Corp.Sun.COM (David Baxter)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: slotown.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Apr16.190827.14352@indetech.com>, alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North) writes:
>I apologize if this appears to be a duplicate message, but my first
>post on this subject didn't seem to me to have gotten out...
>
>I am planning on buying a Nikon 8008s very soon. I live in San Jose.
>While San Jose Camera & Video has great prices, I've found their 
>attitude lacking in the past, and I prefer not to give them my business
>(unless they've changed).
>
>I found that Los Gatos Camera has a meet/beat price policy, so I thought
>I'd buy from them. 
      
    Well I wish I could tell you that San Jose Camera's attitude has changed
but by all meens it hasn't !!!!
    I went in there about three weeks ago to purchase a F4s and the person
helping me (actually the short balding guy with a major attitude was 
starting to really piss me off!!) would not let me see the camera unless
I purchased one (but then I owned it anyway). He was also the must unhelpfull
individual I have ever come across !, he would answer questions with ya, no,
sure, ah-ha, ect... Never once did he answer with a complete sentance, or in
any kind of detail to support his answers. I have found that the attitude is
pretty consistant with everyone there, and I to will not be purchasing any-
thing from them in the future.

     As for Los Gatos Camera I have heard good things about prices, but hear
they don't have the greatest selection to choose from.

     I have shopped at L.Z.premiums in San Jose and they have an excelent
selection and will beat any one else's price. There staff is made up of a
bunch of young kids from the local junior college. But they usaully try to 
help the best they know and will tell you if they're not sure of something.

     I would just spend a good deal of time shopping around and use your
best judgement.


                                              "$UPER DAVE"
                                              Cupertino,CA.
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: "Phaedrus 'n Co." <sl291006@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Minolta SLR info wanted (non-maxxum)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:54:31 -0500


I would go with the SRT 202. I have an X-7A andI like it.. but I would prefer the SRT series over the X-series. I used to use a SRT 101 and it was a very reliable camera. 

Mike Kavka
kavka_mb@indtech.it.ilstu.edu
From: jlavi@cs.joensuu.fi (Jarkko Lavinen)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Kirlian photography
Keywords: this is the trip! the best part!
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:02:21 GMT
Organization: University of Joensuu

jaywb@juliet.caltech.edu (Bromley, Jay W.) writes:

>alright then, 
>so have any of you heard of Kirlian photography as pioneered by Harry 
>Oldfield?  If so, let me know!

I am building one right now. Mine will be based on cars ignitions coil
as high voltage source. There will be power suplly, oscillator part,
amplifier, ignition coil and high voltage electrode all in some box.

The system works like this

                  SAMPLE
         --------------------------- <- Film, emulsion side up
         ########################### <- Insulator = glass plate
         --------------------------- <- High voltage pulses

I got the instructions from british magazine Practical Electronics (?),
the author was from Aldus research. I think the real pioneers were Mr.
and Mrs. Kirlian in USSR at sixties.

It looks very much like eternity project to me. I have been a bit
too lazy. To build a case for devices is always THE problem for me and
this time it is harder than ever.

What will I expect from the device? I want photograph a human aura.
Kirlian photographs can be explained physically but then there are
phenomenas that are hard to explain, like phantom-effect. Anyway,
I have got to the pint that I have to build my own device and
see with my own eyes what it is up to.

>jay bromley, space cadet | to go downtown, crushing crucifixion, particles
	Jarkko Lavinen
From: andyc@hplsla.hp.com (Andy Cassino)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 17:16:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Info Wanted: Camera Backpack
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.photo

erf@progress.COM (Eric Feigenson) writes:
| 
| I'm going to be a lot of walking around with my camera (like hiking),
| and was wondering about these camera bags that either are or act like
| backpacks.  The two I've seen are the LowePro (I think) Photo Trekker,
| and the Tamarac 757.  Are there others?
| 

I'm not familiar with the Tamrac 757... but about six months ago I found a
Tenba PBL at a good price and decided, what the heck, give it a try. It has
received favorable reviews for use carrying lots of large format gear; I
planned to use it for my medium format stuff.

Well: right now it is sitting in the closet. I don't use it and I think I'd
like to trade it for the LowePro or something else. There is one simple 
but bedeviling problem with it. That is, the dividers only "velcro" (pardon 
me for creating a new verb) to the sides of the pack, not to the bottom. 
Consequently, after walking about for awhile and taking the pack on and 
off a few times, anything that can slip behind a divider has done so, and is
sitting close to the bottom of the pack, intermingled with other gear. And,
I'm not just talking about small stuff; I've had lenses work their way behind
a divider and slide to the bottom.

I think the Tenba PBL may be just fine for a view camera, but for 35mm or
medium format I have trouble seeing it as anything but a pain in the arse!
Perhaps some other owner can relate their experiences with it?

As I recall, the Lowe Pro Photo Trekker not only has velcro on the bottom of
the dividers as well as the sides. (Plus, there are a number of small pockets
for small stuff; the Tenba also lacks this convenience). At any rate, this is
an area of concern I would recommend paying attention to!

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From: koolish@BBN.COM (Richard M. Koolish)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: illumination conversion wanted
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:06:15 GMT
Reply-To: koolish@BBN.COM (Richard M. Koolish)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


I need the conversion from microwatts/square centimeter to something
my light meter would read, like footcandles or lumens.
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: rene@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kenneth Bogle)
Subject: Bender 4x5 Home-made camera
Summary: Tell me of this!
Keywords: Bender, 4x5
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:49:00 GMT

	Does anybody have any exprience with the Bender 4x5
"build-it-yourself" camera kit??  For $189, it looks intriguing, but I
am wondering among other things how the focusing is accomplished.  I
sent for their info and would like some imput from actual users of
this camera...
From: tklai@acsu.buffalo.edu (Tobysze K. Lai)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Advice on wide angle lens
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:26:52 GMT
Organization: UB

Hello all,

	I'm considering buying a wide angle lens with focal length of either
24mm or 28mm.  I own a Canon EOS camera.  Does anyone have any experience with
any wide angle AF lens?  There are few choices in my mind so far:

	Canon EF 28mm/2.8
	Sigma AF 24mm/2.8
	Sigma AF 28mm/1.8

	Does anyone know which company produces lenses with better optical
quality? 

	Since I own a EOS camera, if I use a lense that is made by another 
company, will the autofocus function be as fast/effective as the lense which   
made by the original company?

	Any comments will be appreciated, thanks in advance!



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From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: portrait lenses / soft focus?
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:43:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <2373@isgtec.isgtec.com>, nigel@isgtec.com (Nigel Burnett) writes:
> The Nikon lenses on my F801 on T-Max film give (to me) incredibly sharp
> images.  Unfortunately, on full-frame shots of people's faces, every
> little skin imperfection shows up in embarrasingly fine detail.
> 
> How does a portrait lens 'solve' this problem?  I presume it's more than
> a matter of just de-focusing slightly.  Will I achieve acceptable results
> by defocusing my 37-70 f2.8 lens slightly?  
> 

Soft focus lenses get their soft focus by not being totally corrected for
spherical aberation. This results in a sharp image surrounded by a slightly
out of focus zone (much like the Hubble Space Telescope!). Defocusing a
regular lens won't give you this effect - all you get is out of focus images.
You can buy "diffusing" or "soft focus" filters which will give you some
degree of soft focus, or you can try stretching some fine gauze across your
lens. You can also get some degree of soft focus during printing by using
similar techniques.


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Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
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From: bjs@uts.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re:  broken field camera (was Re:  4 x 5 camera help)
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:12:21 GMT
Reply-To: bjs@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman)
Followup-To: rec.photo
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

donl mathis responds to a posting of mine relating a story about a Zone VI
field camera that was smashed to smithereens (Q:  What's a smithereen? :-)
while at a workshop that I attended recently:

>Fred Picker says he'll repair or replace cameras damaged in *any way
>whatsoever*.  As much as I don't like him, or some of the ways he runs
>his business, this is a very impressive policy.  (And very fortunate for
>this victim!)

Actually, a couple of the people at the workshop said that they'd heard
that they don't repair damage that doesn't diminish functionality.  
They said that he'd "pontificated" about honorable scars and such forth.
But this would seem to be a pretty clear-cut case requiring him to honor
his *in any way whatsoever* policy.  And that's really a generous policy.
I really don't think that it should be his responsibility to repair
something that's damaged due to my own negligence.  But perhaps the
average cost of repairs is covered by the rather high price of the 
cameras.  Anyway, I'm impressed by such a guarantee.

Barry



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From: mvolo@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Michael R. Volow)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Nikon FA, FE2, FE feature summary request
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:24:51 GMT
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service


Poster (Grant Goodes) resonding to the FA/FE2 discussion mentioned
avoiding the Nikor pre-close range correction (CRC) wide angles. I've
never heard of this feature. Could someone please enlighten me about
this. What do I miss if I don't have the CRC?
-- 
Michael Volow, Psychiatry, Durham VA Med Center, Durham NC 27712
919 286 0411 Ext 6933               mvolo@ecsvax.edu
From: ylevy@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Verichrome Pan PROCESSING
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:04:19 GMT
Reply-To: ylevy@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

Hi,

I recently bought an old brownie-type camera at a garage sale and it had
a roll of exposed Verichrome Pan 120 film in it.

Can anyone suggest processing for this film?  How old can it be?

Much appreciated,

                       Sincerely,      Yaron

                                     YLEVY@BINAH.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: dan@research.nj.nec.com (Dan Ruderman)
Subject: Motorized drum processing for film -- experiences?
Originator: dan@iris34.nj.nec.com
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 20:56:45 GMT


	I'd like to use one of these units to process a bunch of
	120 film.  Has anyone had any good/bad experiences with
	certain models?


	Thanks,
	Dan

	dan@research.nj.nec.com
From: MSPERKO@kentvm.kent.edu (Mike Sperko)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Shooting Neon Lights
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:23:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: kentvm.167C3AE44.MSPERKO
Organization: Kent State Univ.

Does anyone have experience shooting neon lights?  A friend of mine has asked
me to photograph his beer sign collection.  These neon signs are hung on the
wall of a finished rec room.  There will be some regular lighting but the signs
pretty well light up the whole room (this guy has some really neat old beer
signs).  Any recomendations about daylight vs. tungsten film? Filters?
Exposures?
Thanks.

Mike Sperko
Newsgroups: rec.photo