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From: radha@yrloc.ipsa.reuter.COM (radha)
Subject: Indian films in festival of festivals at toronto
Reply-To: radhak@ipsalab.ipsa.reuter.COM (radhakrishnan)
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:11:41 GMT


The following movies ar playing at festival of festivals at toronto

The Master Carpenter (Perumthachan) Dir  Ajayan 
Sep 11 1:30 pm Sep 13 3:45 pm

In the Name of God Dir. Anand Patwardhan
sep 18 6:30 pm  Sep 19 2:30pm





Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: tolia@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia)
Subject: Re: sari, churidar, etc. (why should I.....?!)
Keywords: Indian, traditional, costumes
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:23:45 GMT

Who gave you the authority to represent 850 million people? Why
do you still suffer from the colonial mentality (as in I am so
proud because I have more WHITE friends than other Indians?) And
who gave you the right to decide what gives a good v/s bad
impression of India(as in the girls "mucking around"..whatever that
means or going to bars etc)? As far as dress goes, most of the girls
I know here as well as in Bombay carry off both western and Indian
outfits with equal elegance. Even tourists who come to India
often wear chudidars and kurtas and I have given Indian clothes
and ethnic jewlery to American friends who have much appreciated
it. 

You certainly have a right to wear and do what you want, but
please stop being so morally dogmatic and insisting it is the
only right way and that is what everyone should do. That
attitude reminds me too much of Christian fundamentalists
that I meet so often here in the midwest.

Anish

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: ghg9827@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. Harikumar )
Subject: Re: sari, churidar, etc. (why should I.....?!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:36:33 GMT
Keywords: Indian, traditional, costumes

s910700@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Mareena Joseph) writes:
> I'm proud to tell you all that i, the unchanged indian
>girl, has got the most number of white friends than the changed indians - 

	Your methods may differ, but the motivation 
	seems to be still the same.

	And aren't saris cumbersome?




>regards,
>Mareena Joseph Neyyarappally,
>Dept. of Computer Science,
>RMIT (Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology),
>Melbourne, Australia.
>email: s910700@yallara.cs.rmit.oz.AU

Harikumar.

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:51:13 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <92253.141504DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.191502.8477@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>,
>mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) says:
>>
>>        The unity of India is strongly connected with the availability
>>of a common national language. Even though Hindi was imposed upon all
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>the states to be adopted as the national language the survival of this
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>language in this position is doubtful. Considering the history of India
>>I would suggest that Sanskrit deserves a true consideration to be the
>>national language.
>>
>
>Why do every demand of a new national language start with a statement
>about Hindi ? Hindi was/is never imposed as a national language because
>as such there is no national language. In the two language formula Hindi
>is the language of official communications and English is the support
>language in the same category. Other than this there are 18 officially
>recognized languages which enjoy some previleges as compared to many
>other officially unrecognized languages. Now everyone is happy with this
>arrangement. Where is the need to recognize one language as the national
>language ?
>
>regards..         Deepak
>

You seem to be distinguishing between a national language and a language
of official communications. As far as the majority of people is
concerned there is no distinction between the two. What I mean by the
national language is a language for both official and everyday
communications also. By throwing away Sanskrit Indians are rejecting
their unity, which was associated with Sanskrit in the earlier days. I
would say it is hightime Indians go back and search for their
roots.

Mathai
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: C999S2W4@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:12:40 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo

In article <1992Sep8.191502.8477@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
 
>
>
>	The unity of India is strongly connected with the availability
>of a common national language. Even though Hindi was imposed upon all
>the states to be adopted as the national language the survival of this
>language in this position is doubtful. Considering the history of India
>I would suggest that Sanskrit deserves a true consideration to be the
>national language. The reasons for the suggestion are the following.
>
>1.	Sanskrit was the undoubted national language of a united India.
>The India which evolves from the Vedas, Upanishads and the literature of
>the past has Sanskrit as the national language.
>
>2.	Sanskrit is a highly respected language in South India. The
>objections to Hindi are voiced predominantly from the southern states.
>On the other hand, Sanskrit would be easily accepted as the national
>language.
>
>3.	By adopting and learning Sanskrit Indians will be exposed to the
>rich Vedic heritage of ancient India. Indians will be more aware of
>their unity in the past.
>
>4.	Sanskrit alphabet is similar to all of the South Indian
>languages. Only the script is different. The grammar is easy to learn.
>
>5.	Many of the Sanskrit literature of the past view India as
>united. This will help in realizing the unity of all Indians.
>
>6.	There are Sanskrit speaking townships in South India. This shows
>that Sanskrit should not be considered as a dead language.
>
>7.	One of the main reason to study a language is the lierature in
>that language. Sanskrit boasts of an immense collection of literary
>works unlike the more recent language like Hindi of which the literature
>is alien to most of South Indians.
>
>8.	Many South Indians view Hindi as more alien than English. One
>reason for this is that they have no consideration for the Hindi
>literature which appeals to only a fraction of Indians.
>
>
>Mathai
>--
>Mathai Chundatt
>Department of Chemical Engineering & Material Science
>University of Oklahoma, Norman
>OK
     I wholeheartedly support as having Sanskrit as the National Language.
One more advantage will be  :-
   Research has proved that Sanskrit is the best language for use in
Computers. This will give a great boost to the Indian Contribution in the
field of Computer Programming.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:38:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.234959.1784@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.225035.26471@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>>In article <BuA34C.MzJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> C999S2W4@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>>
>>>   Research has proved that Sanskrit is the best language for use in
>>>Computers. This will give a great boost to the Indian Contribution in the
>>>field of Computer Programming.
>>
>>Can you give the source of this information? I don't believe it can be true.
>>Sanskrit, I'm told, is rather complex language with many peculiarities,
>>the last thing you'd want in a Computer Language. Venmani Namboothiri was
>>known for writing "slokam"s with more than one meaning which implies that
>>the language is ambiguous. (He wrote in either Sanskrit or Manipravalam, a
>>language very similar to Sanskrit) I think he used the idea of breaking
>>up compount words differently to get different meanings.
>>
>>Njan
>
>How does that matter if Sanskrit is good for computers or not? I think
>there are lot of other considerations in favor of Sanskrit.

Well, don't you think it might be a good idea to have the language to be
good computer language if it's to be used as one? I'd hate to program in
a "bad" computer language!

>The question of Sanskrit being ambiguous, I think any language under the
>sun is ambiguous to some extent.

maybe that's why they aren't used as computer languages! Besides, what 
you said applies only to human languages.. Most computer languages are
unambiguous... (I can easly write a language which isn't ambiguous!)

It might help if you read the posts more carefully so that you can understand
them better... I personally doesn't like to make a fool of myself in public.
But then, it's your life!

Now coming to the point about making Sanskrit the national language, I don't
think it's a suggestion worth wasting time on, the reasons being too obvious
to discuss.

>Mathai 

Njan
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: tphili@eos.ncsu.edu (TEEBU  PHILIP)
Subject: Friends of Union Christian College, Alwaye
Originator: tphili@c00065-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: UCC, Alwaye
Reply-To: tphili@eos.ncsu.edu (TEEBU  PHILIP)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:48:28 GMT




   I am posting this notice for my father, if youre mail bounces to his address,
then you may send any replies to me and I will make sure he gets them.



***************************


   We are in the process of forming an association of old students and
friends of Union Cristian College, Alwaye.  We are collecting names, addresses
and whereabouts of as many alumni and friends of UCC as possible. If you are
an old student or friend of UCC or know any of them please pass this
information and/or drop a note to:

Dr. Philip Abraham
Research Triangle Institute
P O Box 12194
R.T.P, NC 27709
e-mail: pa%clsvax@rti.rti.org

   We would like to function as a clearinghouse for information exchange
about UCC, UCC old students and friends.


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****************************
From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: His Highness Abdulla <> National award ......
Keywords: desiya award, malayalam movie.
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:02:11 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <14476@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> s910700@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Mareena Joseph) writes:
>
>   As far as I know, 'His Highness Abdulla' hasn't won any national award,
>or even state award. I'm not sure whether it had won any state award from the
>music category, but I'm sure it didn't win any national award for anything.
>As the songs were semi-classical, they became very popular, and all the 
>Mohanlal "fans" made a great deal about that movie; that's all.
>
>					Mareena J. Neyyarappally,
>					RMIT, Melbourne,
>					Australia.
>


But wasn't there a mild furore 2 or 3 years ago about Doordarshan not
giving enough prominence/coverage to the fact/report that a certain
Malayalam movie had won many of the National awards for that year ? I
think even actor Nedumudi Venu was involved in the berating of Doordarshan.
And I am quite sure that this happened before "Bharatam" was released...

Mahesh.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Re: kerala
Organization: Stenn Pate Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:05:54 GMT

In article <nizar.716500942@altair.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> nizar@cis.ksu.edu (Abdulnizar M Abubaker) writes:
>

Huh ?

Mahesh.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: jayasim@platypus.cis.ohio-state.edu (D Jayasimha)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:32:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.045952.27271@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian) writes:
>
>From a linguist's point of view, it makes no sense to claim that some
>natural language NL is "best-suited" for use as a computer language, since
>all natural langauges known to us lie within the same level of complexity.
...
[some stuff deleted]
...
>Secondly, this kind of "cleaning up", ridding of all ambiguities,
>can be done for ANY human language. Of course, the result wouldn't
...
[some stuff deleted]
>
>Uma Subramanian
 

Thanks- that was an informative article but I have some differences with 
your opinion.
Caveat: I lay no claims to any formal training in linguistics.  My comments
are those of an interested layperson- feel free to correct me.  I will 
confine my comments to English and Sanskrit- two languages with which I 
have some degree of familiarity.

We are not comparing languages w.r.t. their overall complexity or
suitablility- rather, w.r.t. a particular property- that of suitability 
as a computer language.  I am rather surprised that you claim that all
natural languages are "equivalent" even in this sense.  Let's say, for
example, that a language be phonetic is the requirement in some
application.  Surely, Sanskrit would win hands down compared to English.
On the other hand, given a finite alphabet, some sounds cannot be
"written down" in a phonetic language- this is, of course, a disadvantage
but unimportant here.

Furthermore, Sanskrit, as we know of it today is not a true natural language
in the same way as English or Swahili or Tamil is.  It is hardly spoken now-
so colloquialisms, word overloading, need for economy of expression, etc. 
have not been incorporated for the hundreds of years that it has not been 
spoken.  Also, unlike most natural languages (perhaps with the exception 
of Latin), Sanskrit has remained "Shastric" or formal- mainly because 
a) the grammar has been close to "prescriptive" rather than being 
"descriptive" (Paanini formalized the language in its early stage of 
development), b) whenever Sanskrit took on the status of a language used 
by commoners, it evolved into a different language (e.g. Paali, Maagadhi, 
etc.), the original thus retaining its "purity" and formalism.

Let's assume for a moment that the only disambiguities in Sanskrit arise
because of the rules of Sandhi and Samaasa (cf. my previous posting
on this topic)- I would not be surprised if this were indeed so.  
Disallowing certain rules is certainly simpler than adding extra rules to
disambiguate sentences in another language such as English where sentences
can have multiple meanings- e.g., I saw a man on the hill with a telescope-
(also, I would expect that it would be non-trivial to prove that a set 
of disambiguation rules are complete and consistent- am I correct?).

jayasimha
 
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Subject: New E-Mail Address/Last Posting (Anju at AMS, Inc.)
Reply-To: gulati@access.digex.com
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:12:38 GMT

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:36:28 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Sep9.033835.5487@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.234959.1784@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep8.225035.26471@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>>>In article <BuA34C.MzJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> C999S2W4@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>>>
>>>>   Research has proved that Sanskrit is the best language for use in
>>>>Computers. This will give a great boost to the Indian Contribution in the
>>>>field of Computer Programming.
>>>
>>>Can you give the source of this information? I don't believe it can be true.
>>>Sanskrit, I'm told, is rather complex language with many peculiarities,
>>>the last thing you'd want in a Computer Language. Venmani Namboothiri was
>>>known for writing "slokam"s with more than one meaning which implies that
>>>the language is ambiguous. (He wrote in either Sanskrit or Manipravalam, a

>
>It might help if you read the posts more carefully so that you can understand
>them better... I personally doesn't like to make a fool of myself in public.


I am sorry for not understanding your article. I didn't know you were
discussing the suitability of Sanskrit as a computer language.

Anyway, which computer did Venmani Namboothiri use? IBM, Tandy,
Compaq....

Making yourself a fool; you don't have to like it!

>
>Njan

Mathai
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: vpishara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Vinod M Pisharam)
Subject: onam greetings
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:34:35 GMT



To all you Malayalees in the US of A


       ENDE  ONA  AASHAMSAGAL

                        TAKE CARE

                                     VINOD PISHARAM
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: mchundat@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:49:59 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Sep8.225035.26471@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
>In article <BuA34C.MzJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> C999S2W4@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>
>>   Research has proved that Sanskrit is the best language for use in
>>Computers. This will give a great boost to the Indian Contribution in the
>>field of Computer Programming.
>
>Can you give the source of this information? I don't believe it can be true.
>Sanskrit, I'm told, is rather complex language with many peculiarities,
>the last thing you'd want in a Computer Language. Venmani Namboothiri was
>known for writing "slokam"s with more than one meaning which implies that
>the language is ambiguous. (He wrote in either Sanskrit or Manipravalam, a
>language very similar to Sanskrit) I think he used the idea of breaking
>up compount words differently to get different meanings.
>
>Njan

How does that matter if Sanskrit is good for computers or not? I think
there are lot of other considerations in favor of Sanskrit.

The question of Sanskrit being ambiguous, I think any language under the
sun is ambiguous to some extent. 

Isn't it something like:
"Kill him not let him free" stuff.

Mathai 
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From: monty@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (John Montgomery)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: uunet/bitnet
Summary: uunet/bitnet access from uiuc
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:34:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I want to send some mail to a friend of mine in India through uunet/bitnet
onto Ernet. I need someone's help how to do it from uiuc. Is it possible?

thanks

Devesh
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Sanskrit and the Unity of India
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:06:27 GMT

  Well, Tamizh has the classical past of Sanskrit and
it stands as one of the oldest spoken literary language in the
world. Most of the folk and common languages in India
have a lot in common with Dravidian languages. sanskrit
is not known even to the priests in full detail.
Only a mother tongue can foster something. Sanskrit never
fostered unity and will never, never.
 Let the status quo be not disturbed.
Everybody respect his mother tongue and have respect for
other's languages too. That will bring unity. Zealots
of Sanskrit or Hindi or any other language will only
do harm to our multicultural country.

Kathiravan