HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pmb2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Peter Bell)
Subject: Re: Latest Tuneup bug? (was hoses File Sharing)
Reply-To: pmb2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:42:39 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.231959.39183@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> dewhirst@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Rob Dewhirst) writes:

>Apple Software Licensing called me today and told me to stop
>distribution of Tune-up version 1.1. Apparently they discovered a bug
>will have a fix out in the next couple of days.
>
>They were not specific about the problem.  This could have been it.
>
>Rob.

I have found what I am pretty sure is tuneup 1.1 related bug:

An application, Compact Pro, hung last night while trying to debinhex a file.
I did a ctrl-option-esc to force a quit CPT.  When I tried relaunching it,
I got an error -39.  When I tried launching System 7 Errors, I also got the 
error -39.  Since the second app should have been ok, I restarted and was
able to launch it and find that -39 is an EOF error.  I went back into 
CPT, it hung again, I forced quit again, and found that I could *only* 
get MSWord 4 to launch (more evidence that Microsoft does odd things); every 
other app that I tried gave me a -39.  

I recently installed the tuner 1.1, so I went and got a copy of 1.0, replaced
1.1 with it, and rebooted.  I still got the hang in CPT, but a forced quit
no longer leads to an endless series of errors -39.  The change in tuners
was the only change I made, so I am satisfied that (at least one) of the 
problems relates to forced quits yielding invalid EOF's in applications.

Just my two cents worth,

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bassman@iastate.edu (Jeremy J Dearduff)
Subject: Re: Rom boot
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:07:58 GMT

In <1992Apr7.205429.19866@mcs.anl.gov> sasso@flounder.phy.anl.gov (John F. Sasso) writes:


>I remember reading that it is possible to boot a Mac IIsi from the
>ROM's in the machine.  How do I do this?  (Is this a FAQ?)

>						John F Sasso

If this is possible, PLEASE E-mail me the solution. It would come in very
handy on occasions.

Jeremy

bassman@iastate.edu

>-- 
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>"But who is Ted?  Ted is the Shaman to the Stars, the Master of MauMau,
>and a general SwellGuy."  the Book of False Bobs
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)
Subject: Installing Network software? Help?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:39:02 GMT


We just (finally) upgraded to System 7 (specifically 7.0.1/Tuneup1.1.1)
and can no longer get our network softare installed properly.  It's a
IIci 8/80 with Cache card.  A couple of questions here:

  1.  What does the System 7.0.1 Installer actually install as pertains
      to an ethernet board and network stuff?  When I try to use the
      Network control panel, I get a dialog telling me that my Network
      software has not been installed correctly and that I should go back
      and reinstall it.

  2.  The installer that came with the board (its an Ether2 board from
      Compatible Systems Corp. from over two years ago) has no clue about 
      System 7 and just complains about me not having my System software
      installed correctly (but I think that's probably because its expecting
      a System 6.0.x configuration).

  3.  I downloaded the latest Network Software Installer from ftp.apple.com
      (version 1.2 from March 1992) and used that to try to install the
      Network software (Network, AppleTalk, EtherTalk).  It claims to have
      installed properly, but after I reboot and try the Network control
      panel, it complains just as before (Network software incorrectly
      installed, go install it again).

  4.  On a slightly different subject ... How should MacTCP (1.1) be set up
      under System 7.0.x?  I know there has been talk back and forth about
      such-and-such being in the System Folder itself as opposed to the 
      Control Panels folder (with an alias in the CP folder).  How should
      that be set up?

Any suggestions (by post or e-mail) would be most helpful!  Thanks in advance!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: j9z@ornl.gov (John Martellaro)
Subject: Password Protection
Reply-To: j9z@ornl.gov (John Martellaro)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:00:28 GMT

Does anyone know:

1. How to disable the System 7 "abort the running program" key sequence
   of cmd-option-ESC with Resedit -- or change the key sequence
   that triggers it... 

   - or -
 

2. Of password software (shareware/freeware) which are system inits
   as opposed to applications which go in the Startup Items folder.

John Martellaro
Martin Marietta Energy Systems
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
615-576-6840
  





Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: SpeedBeep dead with new Disenfecant
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1992Apr5.154102.2456@otago.ac.nz>
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 06:47:51 GMT

 Nigel> == Nigel Stanger <stanger@otago.ac.nz> 

 Nigel> SpeedBeep died when version 2.6 of Disinfectant came out. I
 Nigel> believe the author of SpeedBeep has been in contact with John
 Nigel> Norstad (author of Disinfectant) about this, and there is nothing
 Nigel> that can be done about it, other than not using Disinfectant.

2.0.6 works fine with Disinfectant, last I checked.  Did you register
Speed Beep?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: question: mac file to next printer & kanji question
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:53:14 GMT

The Japanese fonts for the DeskWriter are relatively inexpensive (about $40
each if memory serves). These fonts are, according those I've talked with,
pretty nice and print nicely. You might want to check into that option.

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From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: LaserWriter driver 7.1.1?
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:43:59 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Apr2.191428.11581@mendelson.com>, gsm@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) writes:
> 
> russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
> 
> (refering to the Laserwriter Driver in the System 7 Tuneup 1.1.)
> 
> >Does it work on the LaserWriter Plus?
> 
> Well, sort of. All the features that were in the old driver are there, but
> the "reset the printer after 8 jobs" bug is fixed.
> 
> The reason I say "sort of" is a lot of things that don't work but should
> still don't work. But that may be the printer itself.
> 
> I've been running it since Monady night and it works.
> 
> I have two laserwriter plus questions:
> 
> 1. How much memory is in one and can I expand it? If so how?

One Meg. And as far as I know there is no Apple way to get more RAM.

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: walkerl@mr.med.ge.com (Larry Walker 3-5196)
Subject: DeskWriter V3.0 drivers
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 22:05:18 GMT

I just called HP's Peripheral Assistance line to check on the
availability of the V3.0 DeskWriter drivers (the one's that support
spooling.)  The call director system gave the number (303) 353-7650
to call to order drivers. The operator there check briefly, and then
cheerfully took my order for the (no charge!) V3.0 upgrade. She said
that the upgrades are scheduled to start shipping in 2-3 days, and to
expect to receive it in 7-10 days.

As usual, HP is to be complemented for going above and beyond to
support their customers. The DeskWriter is a high-quality, work-horse
of a printer, and HP's upgrade policy is a model for all vendors.

Thanks HP!

Larry Walker
GE Medical Systems
Pewaukee, WI
From: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: tune up 1.1.1?????
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:55:33 GMT
Reply-To: lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Angelito Lucena)
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Carderock

hi,

i think that i'm now properly confused.
what exactly is it that i need to be running before i install
tune up 1.1.1 ???  i'm at sys 7.0.  do i need to install
7.0.1 and tune up 1.1 before tune up 1.1.1.

or can i install tune up 1.1.1 directly to 7.0??

(fyi, i'm running a iicx with a radius rocket  
 under sys 7 using rocketware 1.3 and mode 32)
 
 thanks in advance,
lito lucena
lito@oasys.dt.navy.mil
 now at  :  dtmb, cdhq, nwsc          'if the defaults weren't good enough,
 formerly: dtrc, carderock                  they wouldn't be defaults.....'
							bill's sister
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Will there be a Tune-Up 1.1.1.1?
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:21:29 GMT
	<1992Apr14.130251.23636@cs.dal.ca>
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: paixao@ug.cs.dal.ca's message of 14 Apr 92 13:02:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.130251.23636@cs.dal.ca> paixao@ug.cs.dal.ca (Nuno Paixao) writes:

   I haven't had the F-Line intruction bombs, but I have noticed the 
   super long memory bars after installing Tune Up 1.1.1.

I'm running TuneUp 1.1.1 on this PowerBook here and it's quite happy; no
F-line bombs, no bad memory bars, nothing. Then again, both my machines
seemed quite happy with TuneUp 1.0 and 1.1. Maybe I'm just lucky; I run
screeds of INIT's ("more icons than God...").

Nick.
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From: dstepe@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: System 7/Quadra Heap Space
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:23:32 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Sorry if this as been asked before, I can't find it anywhere.  I'm having
trouble with system memory.  I would like to increase the memory allocated
to the system, but can't seem to be able to.  The system I'm trying is a Quadra
700, 7.0.1, 36 meg RAM.  I've got an old version of a heap fixer, my guess is
that it's just incompatible.  My questions are:

1)  Is it feasible and wise to increase the heap?
2)  Is there a shareware/freeware utility to do this?

We do a lot of graphics and multimedia work, this helps the older machines I
use, will it help these Quadras?

E-mail direct, please and of course,

Thanks in advance.

Dirk S. Tepe                   When you don't know where you're going,
dstepe@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu    any road will get you there.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Subject: Re: Apple's worst current piece of software
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:39:16 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

trsnyder@mcs.Drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes:
>burglin@ochre.mgh.harvard.edu (Thomas Burglin) writes:
>Thomas> Doesn't the the system 7 tools disk with that contains the HD
>Thomas> utilities have a complete system 7 on it? I haven't tried it, but
>Thomas> it sure looks that way, so that you can run the HD utilties from
>Thomas> floppy in case your HD dies...
>Thomas> Thomas Burglin

>Nope.  It's System 6, last I checked.

It's system 6 on the 800k floppies and System 7.0.x on the 1.4MB floppies.

---
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Owner/Sysadmin, PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC.
alexis@panix.com
{cmcl2,apple}!panix!alexis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: barrett@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Jim Barrett)
Subject: Printing Troubles w/Sys. 7 on an SE
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:46:10 GMT

I've got two users here who have had troubles printing from their SE's with 
System 7.  The symptoms: 1) sometimes, PrintMonitor reports a "postscript 
error" (how informative :-)  2) The mac just hangs.

We have about 30 Macs on our localtalk (two zones), ranging from SE's to 
IIfx's.  We've got two LaserWriter IINTXs, and one antique Laserwriter Plus.  
Printers and SEs are located in both zones, and printing problems occur only 
on the low-end Macs.  

This trouble occurs in both zones, regardless of which printer the user has
selected in her/his chooser.  This problem does not occur under System 6.

Does anyone else have this problem?  Or, better yet, have you solved it?

Many advance thanks,

Jim
--
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barrett@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov                                      713-333-6103
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Latest Tuneup hoses Personal File Sharing?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:52:26 GMT


I have heard that Appple has recinded Tuneup 1.1.  Look for Tuneup 1.1.1 soon.
I don't know the nature of the problems.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

>In article <m16547.702316671@mwunix>, m16547@mwunix.mitre.org (Arthur Gorski) writes:
>> 
>> I just installed the latest TuneUp on a IIsi and an SE/30, both running 7.0.1 
>> and the original TuneUp.  I got a cryptic dialog, something like "File Sharing
>> could not be enabled."  Trying to start personal file sharing via the Sharing
>> Setup control panel repeated the dialog, and file sharing stayed off.
>> 
>> I eventually replaced only the File Sharing Extension with the 7.0.1 version, 
>> and everything came back to normal.
>> 
>> What gives?  Anyone else see this?  Is there a better fix?  Thanks in advance.

>I think that the problem was that you didn't turn off personal file sharing
>before you installed Tuneup 1.1.  You have to do that, then restart the
>computer to get the 1.1 Fileshare to work (for that matter, you had to do that
>with Tuneup 1.0 also).
From: jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: quickergraf CDEV ???
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:40:59 GMT
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things

In article <neilg.703384628@sfu.ca> neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy) writes:
>QuickerGraf (once called QuickerDraw) was a nifty hack that Andy
>Hertzfeld, one of the legendary programmers who wrote much of the
>original Macintosh ROMs, put together years ago. Basically it was a
>number of patches that modified some of Colour QuickDraw's loops. Sped
>things up considerably, but only *colour* QD - it didn't do anything
>for QD on non-colour machines. Apple got the code off him and
>worked it into the system ages ago. If you're using a halfway recent
>system, you don't need QuickerGraf.

I wouldn't exactly call it a hack.  It was a well-written tuneup of Color
Quickdraw's inner loops.  The QuickerGraf code was incorporated into the OS
starting with version 6.0.

> Actually, that reminds me. Does anyone know what Hertzfeld and some
>of the other Macintosh whizzes are up to? Like Burrell Smith, Steve
>Capps, Bill Atkinson... (I've heard rumours of a post HyperCard
>project with Atkinson, but nothing substantial)

Atkinson and Hertzfeld are working at the Apple spinoff company called
General Magic.  Some _very_ neat things being designed there, for hand-held
computing devices, among other things.  I think Steve Capps teaches at
Carnegie-Mellon now.  Burrell Smith was one of the founders of Radius (along
with Hertzfeld) but I don't know if he's still there.


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From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: >> MAC Trivia
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:08:02 GMT
Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: {not speaking for the} University of Illinois at Urbana
Originator: tai50080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

cburch@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Carl B. Burch) writes:

>I like Michael's answer. The natural extension (and far more confusing
>for me, at least) to the question is this: whence the 100, 140, and 170,
>and the 700 and 900? Surely the Quadra 700 isn't the 700th trial for 
>Apple! I think it's all just giving the Macs sporting names, but does
>there exist any sort of system in this numbering?

Maybe not, but now, they have somewhere to go when they come out with a
new computer in an old case, without having to come up with another sexy
two-letter combination.  For example, the next low-end Powerbook can be
the 101, and everyone will know where it fits in the product lineup.
-- 
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  I speak for myself, and not for the State or University of Illinois.
  "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -- Edward R. Murrow
From: intolabb@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steven Intolubbe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Help with Mac+ using Macbottom HDD
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:33:53 GMT
Reply-To: intolabb@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steven Intolubbe)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


    I had this problem when I first got my Syquest. If you have one
 of the early Mac+'s (beige sp?) it is possible that you need
a ROM upgrade. It's a little known fact that the early Mac+ ROMs
had a problem with the SCSI manager and that apple has a free
upgrade for it. Take the machine to your nearest Apple dealer
and ask for the upgrade (they may not believe you at first
as mine didn't, but they finally found it) I'll try to find out
what the Apple number is for it but if you make them look
hard they will find it.  Anyway, the upgrade fixed my problem
but if you have a platinum Mac+ then I don't know what your problem
is.

				       steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
Subject: Re: Bug in System 7 File Sharing?
Organization: MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:45:18 GMT

In article <65138@apple.Apple.COM> rmh@taligent.com (Rick Holzgrafe) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.142748.9810@athena.mit.edu>, dks@athena.mit.edu (dks)
>writes:
>> 
>> On the same topic, does anyone know what the following alert signifies?
>> 
>>      One or more items could not be shared,
>>      because not all volumes are available
>>      for file sharing.
>> 
>> It appears when I try to set "Sharing..." options on only _some_ mounted
>> local disk partitions.
>> 
>> Dhanesh
>
>A volume must be mounted before File Sharing is started in order to be shared.
>If any of your volumes or partitions were mounted after you started
>File Sharing (or booted your Mac, if you have File Sharing on as the default)
>then you would not be able to share those volumes or anything on them.
>
>If that's not your problem, then I'm at a loss...


Hi, Rick:

I appreciate the help.  Here are the facts:

   All partitions are on the (large) internal boot disk.
   All partitions are mounting at start-up.
   File Sharing is on by default.

I have no idea why there's a problem now, because everything was "share-able"
two weeks ago.


Cheers,
Dhanesh

PS: Thanks for Applicon.
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Localization flamelet
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:36:13 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I have a complaint about Apple's localization efforts. Certainly Apple is
to be complimented for its internationalization efforts, which go way
beyond what just about any other OS vendor does. HOWEVER:

Every single system version I have ever installed *always* sets the date
format to the US one on installation. And what's worse, the "International"
control panel which is supposed to let you change this is NEVER copied as
an automatic part of the installation: you always have to copy it as a
separate step, after running the Installer!

Is it too much to ask of Apple to at least include the "International"
control panel in localized Installer scripts? And if the initial date format
was the local one instead of the US one, that would be even nicer.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
From: pjm39673@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul J. Moldenhauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Indestructible Folder
Summary: Indestructible Folder
Keywords: Indestructible Folder
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:11:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I have a folder that was created to store undeleted files(recovered.)  And now Iam unable to delete it.  The finder gives me "can't delete because items are in
use message."  Delete methods attempted: ResEdit, MacTools, and booting off a 
floppy disk and trashing the folder.  It won't go away!

confused

answer via mail to either ragg9165@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  or
			  pjm39673@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Thanks for your help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rkmossm@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman)
Subject: H-P Deskwriter (Re: Background printing)
Reply-To: rkmossm@PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:08:43 GMT

I realize this is probably a FAQ, but ...

I have some Deskwriters that are attached directly to Mac IIci's running 
Sys. 7. What software do I need to get them to do background printing. I have
tried using the Apple PrintMonitor, Backgrounder, and Driver; I have also
tried the latest version of SuperLaserSpool, none of them seem to work.

Does H-P have their own and where can I get it (I don't have access to FTP 
sites).

Will (whatever) work on an Appletalk network where some of the Macs have
local Deskwriters and access to lasers and others only have access to the
netted lasers?

Thanx!
-- 
Richard K. Mossman  {att,bellcore,sun,ames,decwrl}!pacbell!rkmossm
415/823-0974
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From: ross@bnr.ca (Ross Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MAC Trivia
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:26:03 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <wdrvN3q00ioEQ2PERL@andrew.cmu.edu> mg4s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marissa
Gonzalez) writes:
>Is there any meaning behind the Mac "SE", "si","ci","fx" etc...
>
>No one around here seems to know and I've never run across any explaination.

And what about "LC"?  Does it really mean "Low Cost", or is the name just
another cute "dogcow" pun?

Ross Brown
Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
ross@bnr.ca
Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of BNR.