From: marty@srl.mew.mei.co.jp (Marty Chumbes)
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK:  So, what's the big deal?
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Osaka, Japan
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:45:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.063617.22117@netcom.com>, akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes) writes:
|> 
|> People think Char and Amuro are dead?
|>

I think so.

|> 
|> Did you see any bodies?  'Nuff said!
|>

How could you see any bodies, after all, the psycho-frame on the nu-Gundam went overload
and probably blew up, taking with it Amuro & Char in the process.  I mean, if the 
psycho-frame at the point of overload was the cause of taking Axcis out of its collision course with Earth, the nu-Gundam would have to impart to Axcis a huge momemtum in a very short time to change it's course, or in other words, the nu-Gundam would have to provide a huge impulse which can only be done, in this situation, with an explosion of some sort.  
In addition, Char was in an escape pod which isn't protective enough to withstand
the large amount of heat the psycho-frame was putting out and at the point of overload, it
would have totally burned up the pod along with Char.  That's just my $0.02 worth of qualitative anaylsis of this situation based on some simple physics [though I could be wrong. So don't flame me just correct me, if that's the case.  =)].

I think the way this movie ended was great because it give the audience the chance to 
interpret how it should end, leaving their fates up to interpretation.  Personally, I think that Amuro and Char were meant to be killed off at the end of this movie to end the "first generation" of this Gundam saga.  If you look at Entertainment Bible of Gundam F-91 (sorry, forgot what number it was), it gives a good chronological history of Gundam saga from the late 20th century to U.C. 0123 and possibly covers Gaigear as well (can't be 100% sure about the latter because it was about a year ago since I la




st saw it) and according to that
history, nothing happened from U.C. 0093 (Char's Counterattack) to U.C. 0108 where
references to Xi-Gundam and Hassaway Noah are made (Again, I'm not sure about this because I'm quoting this from memory from one year ago).

|> 
|> By the way, people told me Char was dead at the end of Zeta,
|> and I didn't believe it then...
|>

At the time Z-Gundam finished and ZZ-Gundam appeared, there weren't that many side 
stories to go along, so that Char coming back again in Char's Counterattack to 
surprise those who thought he was dead was quite possible.  But now, with OAV's
coming out that are filling the missing gaps between MS Gundam, Z Gundam and ZZ Gundam
(Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket, Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory & possibly Gundam 0084: 
Gundam Victory), as well as the sides stories that are covering events after U.C. 0093,
there leaves very little room for Char to be resurrected again and the same goes for
Amuro without destroying the continuity of the delicate Gundam history.

Again, I thought the whole premise of introducing Gundam F91 with its new cast of 
characters, as well as stating that "it's only the beginning" (or something like that, 
again, I can't remember this too well, haven't seen this movie in over a year) at the end of the movie, was to officially end the "first generation" of Gundam, the first 93 years since the introduction of the U.C. Calendar system, and to bring the saga to a new level with this introduction of Gundam F91.

Talking about this subject, the only problem I had with was the introduction of Gundam F91
and it's relevance to Gundam history.  First of all, what happened to the Jion or 
Neo-Jion empire after U.C. 0093?  Was it totally abolished after the end of Char's
Counterattack with Char's death.  Is the Crossbone Vanguard a resurrection of the Jion 
empire?  Did the issue of colonial independance finally get resolved after Char's 
Counterattack?  Maybe, these questions will be answered in the next chapter of Gundam F91
or with more time-gap filling OAVs, who knows.  

Just my $.02 worth.  Comments, mistakes, corrections to all that's I've said are 
welcome either by e-mail or through this forum.  But please no flames, this is just
my MH&HO (Most Humble and Honest Opinion).


|> 
|> -steve
|> 

								Marty