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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:43:13 PST
Reply-To:     Bert Cave <Bert_Cave@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM>
From:         Bert Cave <Bert_Cave@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Writing interactive SAS programs
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

>I'm using SAS/PC.  Our site license includes SAS/FSP, but unfortunately
>does not include SAS/AF.  I assume that SCL is the solution to many of
>my problems.  What will I be able to do with SCL given that I only have
>SAS/FSP?  What can't I do without SAS/AF?  Will it be worth the investment
>in time and energy or will I still only be able to create a half-baked
>system without both products?  What are my other options?

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You do need SAS/AF to develop good interactive systems.  Moreover, I would
get a copy of the beta SAS for Windows, rather than plug along on 6.04,
which just does not have the functionality of later versions.  You cannot do
frames (and their associated widgets), menus, selection lists and about a
hundred other things with just 6.04 FSP.
From: z_martincr@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
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Date: 17 Nov 92 22:34:19 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

We need help.  We are attempting to do a MANOVA with two dependent variables
and two independent variables.  The data is in an outside ASCII file.  When we
submit the lines, the computer says the work.recall file is unavailable for
analysis.  We are not certain how to enter the model or manova statements
because of the dual independent variables.  We would appreciate any help from
anyone who understands the GLM commands.
Respond to NET or E-MAIL
Z_SCOTTSD@CCSVAX.SFASU
or Z_MARTINCR@CCSVAX.SFASU
This is the program we entered.    
DATA RECALL;
INFILE ALPHA.DAT;
INPUT TY$ ORDER $ STORY PICTURE;
PROC GLM;
	CLASS TYPE ORDER;
	MODEL STORY PICTURE = TYPE ORDER;
	MANOVA h=TYPE ORDER / PRINTH PRINTE; 
        TITLE `MANOVA ATTEMPT'
run;
F3 (to submit)
Our data file looks like the following:
cong	ordA	6	6
cong	ordB	4	7
incr	ordA	6	5
incr	ordB	8	4
...146 lines of data

				Thank you in advance for any help.

				Shannon Scott and Charles Martin
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From:         Richard Vaillancourt <RVA@LAVALVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      How many concurrent SAS users can an Silicone/Graphics 4D/240-S

Does anyone have an idea about how many concurrent "light" SAS users
(500 observations, 30 variables) can an Silicone/Graphics 4D/240-S with
128 MB of main memory handle without thrashing ??.

   thank you..

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Reply-To:     Sally Muller <UNCSM1@UNC.BITNET>
From:         Sally Muller <UNCSM1@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      Correction to SAS under AIX/ESA Note

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NAME:     Sally Muller
PH/ADDR:  919-962-6501  OIT CB#3455, UNC, Chapel Hill NC 27514
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Well looks like I've goofed again.....good thing list is so
tolerant :-).

> From:    "Sally Muller"                             <UNCSM1>
>
> I called SI and was told that the "SAS system" will be
> ported to IBM AIX/ESA Release 1.0 sometime around 2Q93.  The
> person I spoke to said there is no date yet for Rel 2.
        <stuff deleted>

Got a call from SI yesterday and learned that the date is not
that close!  This most reliable source said that SI anticipates a
port around 4Q93 and that it will be Release 2.0.  I stand
corrected!
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:31:10 EDT
Reply-To:     Ray Pass <PASSRAY@CPMAIL-NZ.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
From:         Ray Pass <PASSRAY@CPMAIL-NZ.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      ORDER=ORDER in PROC REPORT
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

ON  Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:33:41 EST
    Harry Sharp <sharp@SNUFF.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU> wrote (in part)

...
> I am trying to use PROC REPORT in SAS 6.07 under MVS/XA and things are
> working just fine except for one minor problem.  It seems that REPORT
> alphabetizes the formatted values of an ACROSS variable.  I guess in most
> cases this isn't a problem, but in my case it is.  My formats are
> student classes (e.g. Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior, etc.), and
> these just don't look right alphabetized (e.g. F J Se So).
...

Andy Norton provided exactly the correct solution, the use of the 6.07 PROC
REPORT option ORDER= (this was in 6.06 but not documented) with one important
assumption, namely that the data was internally stored as 1,2,3,4, and then
formatted to Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior.  If this is how the data is
stored and formatted then the problem is over and done with.  Next case.  As
a matter of fact, this is exactly the data design I dealt with in my PROC
REPORT paper in the SUGI '92, NESUG '92, MWSUG '91 and MWSUG '92 proceedings.

If however the data is stored as Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior, then
all is still not lost.  It just means a little recoding.  One way would be to
use a seies of IF-THEN-ELSE statements to create a new variable (CLASS2) from
the original variable (CLASS), with the 1,2,3,4 values, and then create a
FORMAT which translated 1,2,3,4 back to F,So,J,Se, e.g. YEARFMT.  You would
then use ORDER=INTERNAL and FORMAT=YEARFMT. on the DEFINE statement for the
CLASS2 variable.

Instead of the IF-THEN-ELSE statements, you could also create two FORMATS,
one to go from F,So,J,Se to 1,2,3,4 (LETNUM.) and one to go the other way
(NUMLET.).  You would then create CLASS2 with an INPUT function as in
CLASS2=INPUT(CLASS,LETNUM.) and use the other FORMAT in the DEFINE statement,
DEFINE CLASS2 / ACROSS ORDER=INTERNAL FORMAT=NUMLET;

The problem is not with REPORT, but rather with the documentation.  But even
that is not totally correct because as Andy notes, the ORDER= option is
described in the all-important Tech Report P-222, (Release 6.07 enhancements).

Good luck.

Ray


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Reply-To:     Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
From:         Arnold Schick <SCHICK@DMRHRZ11.BITNET>
Subject:      splined data ?

Hallo SAS-Lers,

exists a method to produce splined (interpolated) intervalues from a given
set of data, and store them into a SAS data set ?

Thanks in advance,

Arnold Schick  University of Marburg/Germany
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Reply-To:     Richard Hockey <richardh@EPISUN.EPIDEM.UWA.EDU.AU>
From:         Richard Hockey <richardh@EPISUN.EPIDEM.UWA.EDU.AU>
Subject: Re: Looking for someone with SAS on workstation w/ 4000+ obs
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In reply to the mail from <SAS-L@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>...
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>I am interesting in talking with someone who has experience
>running SAS on ``small'' un?x workstations.
>Particularly anyone who uses a workstation to
>process 4000+ observations.

What do you mean by small? We use a SS2 and find it can handle anything you
can throw at it 1M obs plus. Disk storage is the only problem we have we
currently have about 3.5G

>
>Regards,
>Michael Allen Clore            Internet: clore@acm.org  Phone:(602) 621-8541
>  Applications Systems Analyst "It is unworthy of excellent (people) to lose
>  Student & Info. Research      hours like slaves in the labor of calculation"
>  University of Arizona        -Baron Gottfried Wilhelm Von Leibniz(1646-1716)
>


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Reply-To:     LAW4%RatesRDS%FAR@CTS27.CS.PGE.COM
From:         LAW4%RatesRDS%FAR@CTS27.CS.PGE.COM
Subject:      re: help on SAS to EXCEL
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I don't know of a list for Excel or spreadsheets, but inquiring minds want to
know what the problem is.  Maybe it can be addressed on the SAS side.  But
then, if you have ascii files, why are you using SAS at all?  Why not just
read the ascii files into Excel?

I've done a paper on Dynamic Data Exchange between SAS and Excel, so maybe I
can help.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:34:56 EST
Reply-To:     Paul Dalberth <Paul.Dalberth@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>
From:         Paul Dalberth <Paul.Dalberth@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Working Days Computation
Comments: To: SAS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

In response to Anami Bhargava's request,
the following will calculate the number of working days between two
dates:

begin = 0;
do i = date1 to (date1+7);
   if (i>= date2) then leave;
   dayofwk = weekday(i);
   if (dayofwk = 2) then leave;     * FOUND THE FIRST MONDAY *;
   if (dayofwk < 7) then begin+1;
   end;
firstmon = i;

end = 0;
do i = date2 to (date2-7) by -1;
   if (i<= date1) then leave;
   dayofwk = weekday(i);
   if (dayofwk = 1) then leave;     * FOUND THE LAST SUNDAY *;
   if (dayofwk < 7) then end+1;
   end;
lastsun = i;

middle = 0;
if (firstmon < lastsun) then
   middle = (lastsun - firstmon)/7 * 5;

totdays = begin + middle + end;

*------------------------------------------------------------------*;

The algorithm considers the time interval defined by (date1, date2) in
three pieces: the work days belonging to the week preceding the first
Monday in the interval (BEGIN), the work days belonging to the week
following the last Sunday in the interval (END), and all of the work
days in between (i.e. in the interval (FIRSTMON, LASTSUN)).  I haven't
tested this extensively but it appears to work.  Don't use this to
determine how many more Mondays you have to face before retirement ...
very depressing.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:16:14 EST
Reply-To:     Mary Chang <NCCUS361@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
From:         Mary Chang <NCCUS361@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
Subject:      SAS input dataset problem
Comments: To: sastwn@TWNMOE10.BITNET

Dear Miss Huang,

    The following is my sas program. The input data set for type=COV
in procedure FACTOR has no observation number _N_. The covariance
matrix does not come from procedure CORR. Anyone know how to insert
the variable with underscore such as _N_ into the input dataset?
Thanks for any suggestion.

Regards,  --Mary Chang

PROC IML;





                                       COV={    13.66666667        6.00000000
                                                 6.00000000        4.33333333
                                                 5.50000000        0.50000000

    EV=EIGVAL(COV);
    PRINT EV;
    NM='X1':'X3';
    CREATE COV FROM COV[colname=nm];
    APPEND FROM COV[colname=nm];
    PROC PRINT DATA=WORK.COV;
    RUN;
    DATA COV(TYPE=COV);
    INPUT _TYPE_ $ _NAME_ $ X1 X2 X3;
    CARDS;
      COV X1        13.66666667        6.00000000        5.500000       00
      COV X2         6.00000000        4.33333333        0.500000       00
      COV X3         5.50000000        0.50000000        4.9166667      67
      N  _NULL_      4.0               4.0               4.0
    ;
   RUN;
   PROC PRINT DATA=COV;
   RUN;

    PROC FACTOR METHOD=PRINCIPAL COV SCREE MINEIGEN=0 SCORE
   N=2 OUTSTAT=FACT_2 ALL RESIDUAL PLOT;
    RUN;
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:41:33 EST
Reply-To:     Andy Norton <76350.1604@COMPUSERVE.COM>
From:         Andy Norton <76350.1604@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Annoying PROC REPORT Behavior

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CONTENT:   Response
SUMMARY:   Use ORDER=DATA on DEFINE statement
REL/PLTF:  6.07.01/CMS, 6.04/PC-DOS
E-ADDR:    76350.1604@compuserve.com
NAME:      Andy Norton
ADDRESS:   Trilogy Consulting, 5228 Lovers Lane, Kalamazoo MI 49002 USA
PHONE:     (616) 344-2191
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> I am trying to use PROC REPORT in SAS 6.07 under MVS/XA and things
> are working just fine except for one minor problem.  It seems that
> REPORT alphabetizes the formatted values of an ACROSS variable.  I
> guess in most cases this isn't a problem, but in my case it is.  My
> formats are student classes (e.g. Freshman, Sophomore, Junior,
> Senior, etc.), and these just don't look right alphabetized (e.g.
>  F J Se So).

I assume that you have internal values that define the desired sort
order:
   proc format;
     value CLASS
       1 = 'Freshman'
       2 = 'Sophomore'
       3 = 'Junior'
       4 = 'Senior';
Other SAS procedures order values using the INTERNAL value, by
default.

PROC REPORT orders ACROSS, GROUP, and ORDER columns using the FORMATTED
value by default.  This was a mistake on the developer's part, who
misrecalled the default behavior.

Page 272, SAS Technical Report P-222, "Changes and Enhancements to Base
SAS Software, Release 6.07", describes the ORDER= option of the DEFINE
statement:
  ORDER = DATA | FORMATTED | FREQ | INTERNAL

This option was not documented in the PROC REPORT manual, but I think
it also worked in 6.06.  So simply say:
  DEFINE CLASS / ACROSS ORDER=INTERNAL;
Note that you can use both the ORDER usage specification and ORDER
option (it looks funny, but makes sense to SAS):
  DEFINE CLASS /ORDER ORDER=INTERNAL;

Andy
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From:         joko@well.sf.ca.us
Subject:      ASCII DOCS - DOS 3.3 LAUNCHER

DOS 3.3 Launcher 1.0 - Copyright 1992 John MacLean
--------------------------------------------------

Formal bit:
-----------

This program is shareware. To legally use this program after a ten day
evaluation period please send US$10 (or Australian $12) to:

John MacLean
2 Grant Place
St Ives, NSW, 2075
AUSTRALIA


Informal Bit:
-------------

I would also really appreciate any suggestions for improvements or
encouragements to be sent to the same address.
I know its a pain to write a letter, but if you would like something
changed I'll probably do it - but I need to know about it.
I also have access to the internet at:

johnmac@fawlty.towers@munnari.oz.au

and regularly read comp.sys.apple2 if anyone wants to contact me.


Installation:
-------------

You simply install the ICONs in your ICON directory, create a directory
called DOS3.3 in the root directory of your hard disk, and copy the
remaining files to this directory.

Converting DOS 3.3 Files and Disks:
-----------------------------------

Files and disks are converted using the DOS3.3.COPIER program.
It has further instructions when you run it, but its all pretty
straight forward.
You have the option of configuring each file to automatically slow
down to 1Mhz on launch (and return to normal speed on quitting).


Launching and Quitting:
-----------------------

After converting programs, they can be launched from the Finder by
double clicking on their ICONs.
To quit from the program, go to the CDA menu, select "Quit DOS 3.3",
and then select "Quit".
This will return you to the Finder.

[BTW, Apple holds a Trade Mark on "Finder".]


About Key Bored:
----------------

Key Bored was a program I wrote about ten years ago on my ][+.
At this stage I did not know about assemblers, so you might find
it amusing to look through the code (it was all written in machine
code directly).
I had to use lots of NOPs in case my code had to change!
Anyway, I thought some people might find it amusing - and it can be
used to show how the launcher works also.


Hope You Like It!
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:10:35 CST
From:         wingo%7977.span@FEDEX.MSFC.NASA.GOV
Subject:      NOVA mailing

Well the first batch of 37 Sept/Oct NOVA's are completed and ready to be
mailed on Monday. We will try to get the rest out (Alphabetically S-Z) by
Wednesday.

Dennis, University of Alabama in Huntsville

PS included on the back two pages of this NOVA is an introduction to, and a
form for, the 1992 National Space Development Conference. This event is
sponsored by the Huntsville L-5 Society, a branch of the National Space Society.
This is the NSS's international conference of the year and of course it will be
in Huntsville this year.

UAH SEDS is a co-sponsor of this year's event as part of our continuing efforts
to inform and educate our nation on the importance of the Exploration and
Development of Space.

Lisa tell Lori next time you see her that we are helping!
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:01:49 PST
From:         Jeffrey Alan Foust <jafoust@CCO.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject:      NOVA Deadline and Article Suggestions

        The deadline for submissions for the November/December 1992 issue of
the SEDS NOVA is Monday 30 November (two weeks!)I'd love to see as many articles
on chapter, regional and national activities as possible for this issue.  In
order to get your creative juices flowing, here are some suggested
(recommended?) articles and the people best fit (in my opinion, at least) to
write them:

Chapter Updates:

Caltech                 (Ben McCall)
Oxy                     (John)
Claremont               (Debbie)
UCLA                    (Mark or Lori)
UCCS                    (Dave Kalman or Mark Fister)
USS                     (Alvin)
Texas A & M             (Robb)
UAH                     (Dennis, Doug or Drew)
FIT                     (Amy)
Purdue                  (Bill Blum)
MIT                     (Lisa or Kevin)
Boston U                (Gene)
Other Chapters: If you didn't see your name listed here (quite possible given my
state of mind at the moment), don't get mad, write an article on your chapter's
activities! :-)

Regional Updates:

CalSEDS                 (John)
TexSEDS                 (Alvin)
NESEDS                  (Gene, Ryan, ...)
Florida SEDS            (Amy)

Technical Projects:

SEDSAT                  (Dennis)
Caltech GAScans         (Ben)

National Activities:

Co-chair articles       (Lisa, Jeff)
IDMs                    (John)
Board elections         (Jeff)
etc...

Space News:

Recent shuttle mission summaries        (Robb)
other random space events...


Well, you get the idea.  If you have an idea for an article that isn't on the
list, go ahead and write and article and submit it, or contact me and bounce
your idea off me (more likely than not I'll bounce the idea back with the
words 'Write it up!' attached :-).  Remember, the deadline for articles is
Monday 30 November.  Because of the proximity of the deadline to finals here,
I am not going to be very willing to extend the deadline *at all*.  So,
svae yourself the trouble later and start writing the articles now!

Ad astra,

Jeff
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From:         Richard Johnson <johnsonr@SPOT.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FREE-ENERGY TECHNOLOGY For Spacecraft/Colonies
              at Nov 15, 92 7:19 pm

You make a good point about censorship limiting us all.  However, not
everybody has free access to SEDS-L.  I'm better off than those poor
folks on Compu$erve, but I still don't have a lot of disk space to
spare, and it's not free.  I shoehorn SEDS-L stuff in because I want to
keep up with SEDS happenings.  I don't want to have to deal with the
"flying saucers kidnapped me and mutilated my pet cow" crowd - there
are other lists and newsgroups for that kind of thing.

If my favorite science fiction magazine started carrying occasional
Cthulu horror stories, I'd be as put out as I am with Bob the Jerk.
Keeping things on topic is not censorship - there are just other places
for Bob's type of diatribe.

Now, if Bob the Jerk wanted to to pay for his messages, if he didn't
expect to use _my_ press for free, I'd agree that he has a perfect right
to spew his junk.  But he doesn't work that way.  He abuses other
people's printing presses in the name of freedom of the press, and thus
diminishes us all.

So I'll still continue to work on getting his particular case of idiocy
out of my and other SEDS-L people's faces.  I won't feel diminished by
Bob the Jerk's absence, though he certainly isn't worth more than an
occasional complaint to his postmaster. ;)

Now, if we could only get rid of John... ;) ;) ;) ;)

Richard

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:37:59 PST
From:         "John A. Wright" <wrightj@CHESHIRE.OXY.EDU>
Subject:      Hi Kate!! :)

Hi Kate!

Great essay...I guess now we can have two people on the ballot for
the two positions open...

=)

John
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