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From: silatman@hls.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: NATIONWIDE DEMO FOR BOSNIA [Fri,Oct 16]
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:26:07 PST
Organization: 



                 NATIONWIDE DEMO TO STOP GENOCIDE IN BOSNIA!

                             FRIDAY, OCT. 16, 1992.


       All people of conscience are encouraged to join in a nationwide
       demonstration [to be held in United States and Canada] to bring
       attention to the situation in Bosnia, so that serious efforts
       can be made to stop the genocide of MUSLIMS and CATHOLICS in
       that region of the world.

       Please take some time out on Friday, October 16 to join
       in your local group. You may contact the people listed below
       for more information:

       The demo will be held in over 70 cities in US and Canada.

       #.     Phone no.          Name.
       --     ---------          -------

       1.  313-743-0680    Dr. Haytham Al-Midani.
           313-732-8883    same, in East Lansing, Michigan.
       2.  718-658-1199    Zahid Bukhari, New York City.
       3.  510-527-3283    Malik Alvi, Berkeley/San Francisco, Calif.
       4.  408-926-8720    Abdul Sattar Rydhan, San Jose, Calif.
       5.  703-750-9807    Yassir Bushnaq, Washington DC.
       6.  708-335-0639    Abdul Malik Mujahid, Chicago, Ill.
       7.  713-975-0768    Masroor Khan, Houston, Texas.
       8.  708-547-8012    Ikram Hussain, Bellwood, Ill.
       9.  301-431-2647    Abu al-Qasim, Langley Park, Maryland.
       10. 215-222-5539    Sulaiman Syed, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
       11. 714-557-8675    Sakib Sokolovich [Bosnian], Los Angeles, Calif.
       12. 201-585-8128    Waheed Khalid, Teaneck, New Jersey.
       13. 904-785-6048    Dr. Riaz Albibi, Panama City, Florida.
       14. 306-757-6688    Anwaar ul-Haq, CANADA.

      Please contact your local representatives for exact schedule.
TV and media are invited to cover the event. The above fourteen
persons are some of the organizers. You can get phone numbers of
other organizers in other cities from the above listed people.
The demo will be in over 70 cities in the North American continent.

      GOOD PEOPLE OF ALL FAITHS ARE INVITED TO JOIN US!

      GOD BLESS!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: hareb_s@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance : Koor -e-Khud ,Bena-e-Mardum
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:41:24 GMT

In article <92288.184936SAYED@auvm.american.edu>, <SAYED@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> 
> 
> 
>>With as much certainty and regularity as a rooster every morning, one just has
>>to be subjected to the daily dose of exaggerated cynical crowing from this
>>nameless spokeperson for Afghanistan, from Maryland.  And as if the
> 
> Ahhhhh!!!!!, not knowing his name anoys the hell out of you doesn't it???
> Well too bad,  he is not exaggerating any thing.  He has seen all sides
> of Afghanistan as I have.  Both him and I have lived in Afghanistan and
> Pakistan and United States.  We have seen the cowardness of people
> and we have seen the mercy and good faith of people.  One thing for
> sure, he has not exagerated anything.  We have seen what quest for
> power can do to people.  We have seen the seven magnificent(SP) assholes
> who turned Afghanistan to a blood bath and still they are not
> satisfied yet.  You tell me Mr. Einstine(Dan Quale) 600 rockets per
> 90 minutes in a city of 5,000,000 people and you don't think too many
> people died.  Man!!!! where the hell did you come from???
> 
>>senseless carnage in Kabul and Herat wasn't enough to sicken every sincere
>>human being, this man has the shameless audacity to daily resort to hollow
> 
> yes, but we are still trying to find those sincere human beings among our
> neighbours!
> 
> 
>>scraping flatulence off their pant insides instead of living up to the
> 
> Bilal, welcome to reality 101.  The only reason why Pakistan did
> help Afghan rebels was to protect it's ass from being invaded by
> USSR.  If Afghanistan had given up to the Russians 100%, the
> Russians would have marched to Islamabad like it was just a military
> drill.  If you guys are so courageous and just bunch of soaring eagles
> then why didn't you guys retaliate when the Afghan and Russian jets
> bombed the hell out of you guys in Peshawar and Parachinar area??
> It's because Pakistan knew that any retaliation would cause a massive
> war between Afghans and Pakistan and with Afghanistan having the backing
> of USSR, they would have whipped Pakistan clean.  So don't tell us
> this great Islamic brotherhood that ISI supplied us.
> 
>>and cynical opinions unsigned.
> Well!! this Rooster from Afghanistan is going to sign his name and
> lets see how many hens will lay eggs.
> 
>>regards,
>>Bilal
> 
> SAYED HUSSAINI
> 100% AFGHAN AND PROUD OF IT.

I take exception with that. If you are "Sayed" & "Husaini" You must 
have a minimum blood relatioship to Muhammad (PBUH) who was not 100% or
even 1% Afghan.

Regards!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: endevour@next00epsl.wam.umd.edu (Afghan)
Subject: Ticket  to Hell , courtesy of Rahbar Hekmatyar 
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:15:55 GMT

>Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:32:02 EDT
>From: Lotfi Hermi <hermi@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>
>To: endevour@wam.umd.edu
>Subject: Re: Afghan news item #10
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
>In-Reply-To: <1992Oct8.210023.27914@wam.umd.edu>
>References: <92281.143958OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
>Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
>Cc: 


>Hickmat Yar is sending you a free ticket to come and join his forces
>to evict the last de spots of communism and make your tawba before his  
>own hands lest, Rahbar Hickmat Yar will be very angry with you and give
>you your ticket to Hell

>Majnoon


I received this mail from Mr.Lotfi Hermi who seems to be a little angry 
about my comments about RAHBAR HICKMATYAR. I know truth hurts and I know
the tolerance level of Mr.Hermi and his Brethren. I am posting this so 
you can see what makes these guys tick. 

Anyway to come to his invitation I kindly decline and for my reason I am 
going to borrow the famous lines of George Orwell's Animal Farm.

Today the Afghans are looking from Taraki to Hafizullah Amin, from 
Hafizullah Amin to Babrak, from Babrak to Najeeb, from Najeeb to 
Dostum, from Dostum to Rabani, from Rabani to Watanjar, from Watanjar
to Gulbudin and back again but already it is difficult to say which is
which. 

If I am to accept an invitation from RAHBAR ( point to ponder: the
Khalqies called Taraki Rahbar ) I would not be sure if I am fighting for
Islam, for ISI, for MUSAD or for RAHBAR's personal aspirations. And 
unlike most of you I do not like fighting like a robot but would rather 
believe in a cause.  

As for my ticket to hell, well, I knew RAHBAR had a monopoly on giving 
death tickets to his opponents but I did not know he could specify the
destination. Could it it be that he has made a pack with Sheitan and 
for every poor soul Rahbar Hekmatyar sends to hell he gets some kind 
of worldly credit from Sheitan. :-) 

Enjoy the posting Mr.Hermi and looking forward to more nonsense from you
and your brethren.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:39:58 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Afghan news item #10

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (RALPH JOSEPH)
Subject: Fighting rages for sixth day in Herat
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 8:37:41 PDT


Here is the latest bad news:


        ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI) -- Fighting raged for the sixth consecutive
day between Afghan government forces and mujahideen rebels led by
warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, sources in his Hezb-i-Islami party said
Wednesday.
        A statement issued by the Hezb said militia forces loyal to interim
President Burhaniddin Rabbani started the fighting last week, aiming to
push south from Herat to capture an air base at Shindand, some 400 miles
southwest of Kabul.
        A Hezb source in Peshawar reached by telephone said heavy fighting
for control of Herat continued for the sixth day Wednesday, but details
were not immediately available because weather conditions had disrupted
communications between east and west Afghanistan.
        At least 750 people were killed in the first five days of the
fighting, and Hekmatyar's guerrillas claimed they advanced on Herat
after heavy fighting Tuesday after smashing a tank battalion of the
government forces.
        There was no immediate confirmation from the Kabul government that
parts of Herat, some 375 miles west of the capital, had fallen to
hekmatyars forces.
        But government sources said earlier that warplanes under Hekmatyar's
control bombed positions held by militia forces loyal to Rabbani and his
defense minister, Ahmed Shah Masoud.
        The Afghan News Agency, owned by the Hezb, said government warplanes
made at least two attacks on the Shindand air base, which was a primary
objective of militia forces when they began the fighting Friday.
        The news agency quoted a Hezb statement as saying the fighting
erupted because the government forces ``wanted to storm (Hekmatyar's)
positions in Herat and then move forward to destroy the shindand air
base, where the rebel chief kept most of the 90-odd warplanes under his
command.
        Hekmatyar's guerrillas have been battling militia troops and
mujahideen guerrillas loyal to the interim government in Kabul almost
since the day communist President Najibullah was ousted from power in
April.
        In August heavy fighting between the two forces erupted on the
outskirts of Kabul after Hekmatyar demanded that Rabbani and Massoud
fire all communist officers in the regular army, and remove from Kabul a
militia force led by Gen. Rasheed Dostum, an Uzbek officer.
        Shindand came into prominence after Hekmatyar claimed at a news
conference last month that foreign aircraft had bombed the air base
interimittently over a two-month period.
        Hezb sources said Shindand was being used to train pilots of the
Afghan forces who had defected to Hekmatyar.
        Early this week nine generals from the regular Afghan army defected
to Hekmatyar's forces, landing their military transport plane in
Shindand after being refused permission to land in Peshawar, Pakistan.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:47:03 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Afghan news item #12

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (ANWAR IQBAL)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 11:35:09 PDT


        ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI)-- The former communist Gleemjam militia will
begin withdrawing from Kabul on Monday morning, completing the
conditions of the August cease-fire accord between the Afghan government
and a dissident faction of the mujahideen, an Afghan supervisory
committee said Sunday.
        The committee to monitor the withdrawal was drawn up Sunday by
government forces and the rebel Hezb-i-Islami.
        According to Radio Kabul, the new chief-of-staff of the Afghan army,
Gen. Rahim Wardak, will head the government's five-member team to the
10-member supervisory committee.
        All of the five factions within Afghan President Burhanuddin
Rabbani's interim government were represented on the monitoring team,
the radio said.
        Leader of the Hezb, Gulbadin Hekmatyar, chose representatives from
within the executive of his party, the Hezb-controlled Afghan News
Agency said Sunday.
        Afghan observers in Islamabad said the committee comprises some of
the most powerful mujahideen leaders to have taken part in the 14-year
civil war to oust Afghanistan's Marxist government.
        Most of the mujahideen want the former communist militia, made up of
mainly ethnic Uzbeks, to return northern Afghanistan where it was
originally recruited by Najibullah's Soviet-installed government.
        The mujahideen parties demanding their withdrawal, dominated by the
majority Pashtoon ethnic group, say the Gleemjam militia was responsible
for the deaths of thousands of people during the bloody civil war to
oust the communists.
        In the final days of the war, the Gleemjam joined forces with
Rabbani, helping his mujahideen capture Kabul and later to repulse two
major attacks on the capital by Hekmatyar's men.
        Rabbani, who also comes from northern Afghanistan, hoped to head off
any conflict between his own forces and the Gleemjam but, after fierce
fighting in Kabul with Hekmatyar's militia almost immediately after the
fall of the communists in April, he agreed in August to take the former
communist militia out of Kabul.
        The all-party mujahideen peace force, which negotiated the cease-
fire, threatened a joint attack on the Gleemjam if Rabbani did not evict
them.
        The Monday deadline for the withdrawal of the militia is the third
issued to the force since the cease-fire.
        Meanwhile, Pakistan television said Sunday calm was returning to
Kabul in the wake of the government's moves to implement the conditions
of the cease-fire accord.
        The television, quoting sources in Kabul, said reports of a possible
final settlement between Rabbani and Hekmatyar were widely welcomed in
the Afghan capital.
        It said that Afghan citizens were hoping that a neutral peacekeeping
force, as set out in cease-fire accord, would be installed in Kabul.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Subject: Test
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:10:59 GMT


This is a test. Please ignore it.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:05:59 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Testing

testing
if
this
gets
posted
then
it must be working!!!!!
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:22:57 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Rahbar-i-a'zam


<Benefits:       Share an important post in newly to-be-formed  Vizarets
<                and/or Luya-jarka.
<
<                Cleans one self of the guilt of running away while
<                true Afghan Mujahideen were dying.
<
<                Acceptance, by Afghan Society, of the treators who left them
<                for a better/cheap life ( after all you believe in popular
<                democracy, isn't it!).
<
<                (You can choose the next item)
<
<Paid by: The Warlord of all times Gul-ba-din Hickmat Yar for Rahbar-i-A'zam

<with a nice jar of wise-line (!)

Well once again we have the dogs of hickmatyar trashing our news group.
Letfi, you and some of your other friends were supposed to be gone
and helping the jihad in some other country.  What happened, did you guys
get fired again?  Did you guys hear real gun shots and *&*t in your pants
and took off for the land of opportunity.   If you think America is a
cheap life then why don't you go back to your *&*&* hole that you came
out of.  I see that  heckmatyar is your(Pakistans) rahbar-i-A'zam,
so does this mean soon he is going to replace Jinah and become the
Pakistani Quahid-e-Azam??  Because in Afghanistan we don't have a
job opening for him, and since you guys love him so much you guys
can have him.

Cheers!!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: e.d.wardini@easteur-orient.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini) (Elie Dib Wardini)
Subject: Re: Syrian occupation of Lebanon
Organization: UiO
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:06:58 GMT

let us suppose that it is true that Frangieh asked the Syrians to come in. in
fact, go back and read chronologies of the time, and you will see that the
Syrian soldiers actually came in to Lebanon before the Quwwaat rad@ were
formed. 

It is a known fact that Syria intervened not on behalf of the Christians (of
course it used this argument!) but in order to stop the war from taking a turn
it did not like. 

It was, and as the camp wars between Amal and the Palestinians (as well as the
Syrian Israeli cooperation with Elie Hobeika as the instrument of the Massacres
of Sabra and Chatila) show it is still not in the interest of Syria that Arafat
and the PLO get the upper hand in Lebanon.

Note that before 1975 Syria supported the PLO against the Lebanese government.
At the beginning of the war Syria also supported the PLO and its allies. Yet
when the PLO got "too strong" Assad made his clever move: go in the save the
Christians! as he put it. It is intersting to note how the Syrians were seen in
the "Christian Areas" they were not wlecome from the first moment.

I know people who were present when the Syrians deplyed in the Mountain of
Matn. THey told me that the whole thing was a show. THe Palestinians had
withdrawn from the Area as if there were no war! The Syrians had detailed maps
of mines and amunition storages.

They did not come to save the Christians, it was not the Christians who asked
them to come in. If some Christian leaders did this move, don't blame the
Christians for it!

Do you tell me that it was also a Christian president who asked for Syrian
intervention against East Beirut. Rached, I don't believe that you could be so
far from the actuall situation. First have you heard of something called High
treason? Even in peaceful Norway, where speaking of a death penalty is taboo,
they executed their prime minister who ruled under the German occupation, among
other things because he incuouraged the German "intervation" as you would call
it, "occupation" as most Norwegians would call it.

Therfore, if it is so that some Lebanese leader asked for the intervention of
Israel or Syria under the circumstances that we are here taling about. THis
person can just as well be put before the HIgh court of justice and be judged
for HIgh treason.

The mandate of the Arab forces in Lebanon, expired many years ago 10 or 12
yeras ago. Ther is on legal covering for the Syrian occupation of Lebanon. They
imposed the Taif accord that is rejected by most Lebanese, and later imposed
all kinds of accords that litterally subordinate Lebanon to Syria.

I see no other motive than occupation and annexation!


elie wardini
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: waid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Walid F Nasrallah)
Subject: Re: Ambassadors' names
Keywords: Ambassadors.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 03:44:29 GMT

-----------------------------------
I have a number (namely 1!) of replies for my proposal to compile a list
of the scatological nomenclature briefly discussed on this group, for the
purpose of PRIVATE distribution to those interested.  Please let me know by
email if  a) you want to get th elist
	  b) you have a contribution to make.
Thanks.

The rest of you can go back to discussing what to call your mother tongue
etc.
(Incidentally, when we drove around the Qar2oun Lake last year, all we saw were
Syrian soldiers, but we were told that one of the checkpouints was the last
one before the Israelis. )
From: zughbi@dmpe.csiro.au (another phoenics person)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Election news, anyone ?
Summary: Kesrouan Elections
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:45:55 GMT
Organization: CSIRO Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.


A







i

         The results of the elections in Kesrouan is as follows:
          Fares Boueiz, Elias ElKhazen, Kamil Ziadeh, mansour Elbonne
              were elected from the pro-Hrawi list
          Rsheid ElKhazen was elected from the other list. Henry Sfeir
          from Boueiz list was defeated.


          The participation was, according to official sources, about 18%.
          The striked called for by the opposition parties was adhered to
          in the Christian areas and there were many anti-election
          demonstrations.

          A number of people were arrested as they were urging others to
          boycott the elections. The Government had 7000, yes seven thousand,
          soldiers in Kesrouan for the elections.


           I wonder what is the next move by the Government to keep on distracting
          people's attention from the rotten living conditions and shit economy.

          Would the Syrians redeploy now? Surely not before the next Governemnt is
          announced. Hariri, Rafic is the dark horse and Berri for speaker.

          Habib
Expires: 
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Organization: CSIRO. Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Keywords:
From: elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Hassles at Beirut Airport
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:10:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Rached writes:

P.S. The hassle in Beirut's airport was not more than NY airport (JFK)
to me personnaly.

Elie replies:

Yep, couldn't agree with you more. Make sure to slip that $50 note 
next time to the customs officer at JFK. Tell him Elie sent you :-)

Regards, Elie.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached)
Subject: Re: Hassles at Beirut Airport
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:39:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.033103.7150@njitgw.njit.edu> elie@hdtv.njit.edu (Elie I. Mourad) writes:
>
>Yep, my camera gear was too visible. (But to be honest I did bribe the
>guy less than $50). When the root is corrupt, everyone else gets corrupt.
>The funny part is that the guy travelling next to me with a South African
>passport was not asked a single question.
>
>Regards, Elie.

See Elie you were smuggling things in that you were not supposed to. If
you had paid the taxes on your camera and not bribed the guy you would
have benefited the system and eliminated another bribery, but for your
own comfort and to leave the airport early you had to cooperate in
bribing after all it is you who is doing the bribery he is only
accepting it ( not that he is not to blame).

rached
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: waid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Walid F Nasrallah)
Subject: Gee, where did all these Baathists come from?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 04:23:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.233616.8059@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached) asks:
>
>Did any Lebaneese government ask the syrians to leave?
>
Yes, I believe a certain gentleman (who was indisputably our head of state
just after another gentleman  often referred to as "Mr. Two Percent"
ceased to be President of the Republic) did so.  Remember what happened to
him?  Only AFTER he did, I might add?

>
>Finally, occupation or not, I beleive that Syrians will pull oyut when
>the Lebaneese government asks them to. 
>
Yes, and Saddam would have pulled out of Kuwait if his cousin, the head
of the provisional government, had dared ask him to.

Finally, for all you guys wh have been to Syria, try this experiment
next time you are there:  find any adult, get in a conversation with him 
or her, and just casually drop the word "Moukhabarat" in any context within
your conversation.  Be sure you are looking in their eyes at that point.
I personally <do not feel I am claiming this to be universal, but just in
case you were curious> would rather die in exile than have to live with
that kind of look in MY eye.


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