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From: mimi@ssd.intel.com (Mary-Suzanne King)
Subject: Re: h (18)
Keywords: Heavy Metal, D&D, SciFi
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:54:50 GMT


Hello. I'm Suzanne (aka Ouch the Assasin), I'm 18 and I hope I'm not too 
old for this... (which doesn't seem to be stopping anyone...)
but just in case, I put my age in the subject line... (just a thought)

I really like this idea (well, the origonal idea...) for a newsgroup,
because I started reading newsgroups when I was 12 and it was dead boring
being the only one who knew what the hell I was talking about...

And, so I don't get into this, I have never even SEEN Full House.
(It's on opposite Star Trek NG reruns here...)

I go to Portland State U (which has a zillion students and NOTHING DECENT
TO STUDY!!) in Oregon, this is my first year. I went to Woodside High
School in Woodside, California, and I miss surfing A LOT!! I love Heavy Metal 
and concerts (I'm seeing Megadeth on the 2nd!) and my favorite books are by 
Douglas Adams and Terry Pratchett. My favorite tv is Star Trek Next Generation 
and Black Adder and Northern Exposure, and Ren n' Stimpy, and MST3000... 
and anything that I can throw stuff at the tv during... (Geraldo, politics...)

Does anyone out there go to UC Davis or Santa Cruz? (I have friends there...)

AND... Does anyone out there (even better if you're in Portland) 
play D&D or AD&D?? 

                       Ouch the Assasin
             Dirty Deeds...        ...Done Dirt Cheap


------------------------------------------------
"This is _the_ Jane Harrington?"
"Yes..."
"Jane bury-me-in-a-Y-shaped-coffin Harrington?
 ... You'll get over her... I did... So did Baldric, in fact."

        (Black Adder 2)


Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: liebea@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Adam Fred Lieberman)
Subject: Re: Sociology and Portland
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:13:35 GMT

> ...
>In my Sociology class yesterday we talked about how our society doesn't have
>any rites of passages or anything.  ...

     Well, there's graduation, from High School, College, and everywhere else.
Note that when I first subscribed (but didn't post) to this newsgroup, it
was described as "A place for the pre-college set on the net."  Hence, there
is a rite of passage that one could use to determine when to stop posting
to alt.kids-talk.

>Now for the second part of my post.  Hi!  I live in Portland too and like to
>play RPG's like AD&D.  I go to Reed.  My phone number is 232-1288.  Give me 
>a call.  (If you haven't guessed, that was sort of a personal note.)

     You could have tried e-mail (or maybe you did and it didn't work?).

						-Adam Lieberman
						 liebea@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat)
Subject: Re: Looking _older_
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:43:17 GMT

The one cool thing about being short and young looking is then when I'm 40,
I'll look 30. 
Do you know a freshman at Bowdoin named Mike Branca?
From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: Full House isn't THAT bad when compared to...
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:58:16 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

da@coombs.anu.edu.au (Daniel Austin) writes:

> 
> I can live with "Full House", even though it is a mindless "cutsie-cutsie" 
> "look-at-the-little-darlings" comedy.  In fact, at least Full House has
> the benefit of being well made, professionally done.
> 
> If you think Full House is bad, then you have never been subjected to the
> excrutiatingly un-funny, mindless crap that is Canada's biggest embarrasment:
> 
> 	"You Can't Do That On Television"
> 

Yes, "you can't do that on television is the most inane, dump, 
repetitive, spalstick, obvious stupid show I have ever seen, no offense 
to anyone that likes it of course

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From: cjones@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: DIR/NEW
Organization: Clark University
Date: 12 NOV 92 20:42:10 GMT

Hi Eric,  exactly where is Ball State University?  And what field of
psychology are you majoring in?

                             Future Child Psychologist-
                                   Ciji Jones
                                   Clark University, MA
From: xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: How very lame is how very lame.
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 10:07:52 EST
Organization: Odd Parity Hacker's Group


mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat) writes:
 
> It doesn't seem necessary for you "kids" to have your own special little cl
> on the net. Why don't you just send Email or something. If you aren't capab
> of posting coherent messages like the rest of the population, you shouldn't
> it at all. Why can't you post on a real group? Are you afraid your opinions
> won't be taken seriously or do you realise you are too lame to say anything
> value? If you act semi-intelligent you will be treated like a real person.
> 
> The best way to get your homework done is to stop writing inane messages an
> do the bluddy work. If you get through high school and get into an intellig
> college you won't need to worry about popularity. however, if you want, dur
> high school, you can sct like an asshole and beat people up to show how coo
> you are. beating up people of different race or religion gets you extra ass
> (and hence popularity) points.
> good luck, and I hope none of you come to amherst.

I hate for everyone to see all that again, but I for one take great 
offense.

Snarfblat, I will have you know that as a 14 year old I am probably one 
of the best programmers within 30 miles of myself. That includes the city 
of Manhattan. I could program a simulation of you in 2 28 hour days. 
(Wrapping around).

My other credentials are ... let me check ... 31,000 posts read, 800 
posts made (not from xyzzy@mertwig.uucp, from nyx.) Also, 13000 hours 
on-line, and tons more offnet.
I read and post to about 10 groups actively. When I'm on the net 
real-time, I post even more.

I feel I have the credentials to say LOSER!
I hope I'm never forced into amherst.

I do realize that one of the major obstacles to getting homework done is 
the lure of cyberspace. (At least with a T-1 readily available nearby). 
However in what other groups can subjects of interest only to kids be 
discussed without flamers like you?

I don't think a mailing-list would be a good solution as it would be hard 
for new people to join.

IMNSHO.
 
Daniel Max P. Drucker
 
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From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: Blank eyes, yellow fever
Date: 4 Nov 92 14:29:55 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <Bx5yAM.DF6@unix.amherst.edu> mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat) writes:
>
>Also, my ideas were formed long before I got here. One reason I act fucked up
>on the net is because in the real world, when I voice strong opinions, I get
>laughed at since even though I'm 18, I look younger than most highschool 
>students. I HATE being treated like a 14 year old.
>So, in the spirit of this forum, here's a topic: 
>Doesn't it suck when older people ignore the ideas of kids, just cuz we are
>younger?

I HATE THAT!! I am 22 (sorry to sound like a broken record) and I look like
I am 15 (nothing against looking like you are 15) and it sometimes the
most annoying thing.  Eric, my husband, is also like that too.  We were
hanging out one night and decided to walk to the nearest 7-11, and I
got a bottle of wine.  As we are standing in line to pay for it, the
woman at the cash register thros the biggest fit, demanding ID from
Erc and myself, and Eric's yelling "I'm 21, just relax!" because it
takes time to open his wallet and pull out his driver's license.

I got my first job when I was 17, fresh out of high school.  People
would say I looked 13.  Some of them almost died when they found out I
could drive!

As for now, well, that's a major problem.  While I was in college, I
did a lot fo stuff with the Student Union.  Basically, I was doing
graphics on a professional level in school.  I've also taken
a management class, been to management and leadership seminars, retreats,
conferences, etc, and I had one full year of management experience
running a Union committee.  So I know a little bit about it.  ANyway,
we are now in the middle of my 6 month reveiw at the company I
work for, and I complained about managemtn in the form I was supposed
to fill out.  I was discussing one individual in particular, who
keeps telling me he is going to train me to use MacDraw when he gets the time.
I keep saying I have been using it for three years, but Joe chooses
to ignore me.  Joe's response?  "Karen should improve her versaitlity
and understanding of office procedure."

Grrrrrrrrrrrr!

I also hate laggggggggg!
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: h
From: biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Bridget Ingham)
Date: 8 Nov 92 07:26:58 GMT
Reply-To: biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz
Followup-To: alt.kids-talk
Distribution: world
Organization: Private UUCP Site
Organization: 
Keywords: 
Summary: 

HI everyone!
 My name is Bridget Ingham, I am 12 years old. My favourite sports are tennis and 
snooker. I like going fishing and playing the piano. I am in Form 2 and my 
favourite subjects are Japanese and science.
Could someone please write to me as I am very lonely here in New Zealand? 

    Bridget Ingham              biddy@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand
From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: New Topic:- Armageddon or The End Of The World
Keywords: Armageddon
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:56:54 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

psains@ibis.ru.ac.za (Paul Sainsbury) writes:

> Hi Kennith,
> 
> In article <P4NXTB3w165w@netlink.cts.com> bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sul
> >Subject: Re: New Topic:- Armageddon or The End Of The World
> >
> >Hmm was it just a general world-wide feelings on what the end of the 
> >world, or was it about St. John's Revelation? hmm well about the 
> >revelation, I think it is more of a satire on the end of Rome than of 
> >anything else.  Rome was a city on seven hills, and there is a resounding 
> >theme of seven throughout the text.  Also at the time of writing Rome was 
> >busy oppresing people, like the writer, so the writer could not really 
> >talk about the glory of the eventual downfall of Babylon, or Rome.  There 
> >is some other stuff but I forget.
> 
> The Video delt with the visions of the Virgin Mary, Notradamus, and Cayce.  
> Cayce, I hope it is spelled correctly, was a man who could see in the 
> future, and he predicted when the world would end.
> 
> As for it being a Satire of Roman downfall, I have no Idea, I will bring up 
> that in my next class.  I also came to that conclusion when reading 
> Revelations.
> 
> Thanks For the Reply!
> 
> From
>  Paul
> --
> Paul Sainsbury - St Andrews College, Grahamstown, South Africa
> Internet: psains@ibis.ru.ac.za                 Phone: +27 [0]461 23872
>     uucp: ..!uunet!m2xenix!quagga!ibis!psains

Oh yeah, Nostradoms said the world was going to end like a week or two 
ago, I remember that..hmmm when did Cayce say the world was going to end?

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Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: liebea@jec315.its.rpi.edu (Adam Fred Lieberman)
Subject: ...Re:  h
Reply-To: liebea@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:52:15 GMT

     Hello everyone!   I'm Adam Lieberman, and I have a week left to be 22
years old.  On November 17, I turn 23.
     I moved to Troy, New York last August to go to graduate school in
computer science here at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.  It seems
I've been spending too much time on Usenet newsgroups and Internet e-mail
and not enough time doing school work.
     Before going here, I lived with my parents in Howard Beach, Queens,
New York.  I went to Queens College, which is a commuter college, meaning
that no one lives on campus and everyone there has to travel back and forth
between home and school.
     My younger brother had already moved away to college.

     So...

     In some ways I am already mature,

     in some ways I should be more mature then I am,

     and in some ways I am really a kid and have no intention of being otherwise,
because it is simply a part of me that I do not wish to let go of and in fact
have, in some ways, only begun to explore.

     So, do I have an identity crisis?  I think that if I can manage to devote
enough time both to the adult and kid parts of me there should not be a problem.
I am, of course, one person, and everything I do is affected by all the parts
of my personality that I mentioned, although sometimes in subtle ways.
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: dedek@meaddata.com (Mike Dedek)
Subject: Re: Looking _older_
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:26:25 GMT

In article <9211060726.AA00894@polar.bowdoin.edu>, cwilbur@polar.bowdoin.edu (Charlton Wilbur) writes:
|> To all of the people who look younger than they are,
|> 
|> Be glad you don't look older than you are. I turned eighteen last May. I look
|> about 23 most of the time but in certain lights and certain circumstances look
|> about thirty-five. My fraternity (_fully_ coeducational, and I'm happy: see  
|> the note below) had a professor night on Wednesday last. A man I'd never seen
|> before (an economics prof, it turned out) walked up to me and introduced
|> himself as Michael Jones. He then remarked that he'd never seen me before and
|> wanted to know which department I was with, and how long had it been since I'd
|> been out of grad school. I was flabbergasted. I explained that I was a mere
|> undergraduate. 
|> 
|> Sure, you're thinking now, "He's eighteen and looks twenty-five? He could
|> probably buy alcohol without having his ID checked!" Sure, it's nice now --
|> not that I've ever actually tried it -- but imagine me when I'm fifty and look
|> sixty.
|> 
|> Charlton Wilbur

Well, I was the same as you.  I looked 23 at 17 (having a full beard helped).
Now I'm 29, and I look about 29.  So don't get too concerned about this
appearance/actual age difference, it may even out as time goes by.

BTW, I'm Mike Dedek, 29, I work at Mead Data Central (LEXIS/NEXIS) and
graduated from Wright State University 3 years ago.  Usually I just lurk
here but sometimes I post if I think I have something worthwhile.

-Mike

Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: mahunt@eos.ncsu.edu (MARK ALLAN HUNT)
Subject: Re: Blank eyes, yellow fever
Originator: mahunt@c00315-2114bl.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mahunt@eos.ncsu.edu (MARK ALLAN HUNT)
Organization: Hunt Technologies
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:06:58 GMT


>In article <1992Nov6.041155.9829@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper) writes:
>Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
>Path: taco!rock!stanford.edu!ames!tulane!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news.netmbx.de!Germany.EU.net!mcsun!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!isc-newsserver!ritvax.isc.rit.edu!SJK6119
>From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
>Subject: Re: Blank eyes, yellow fever
>Message-ID: <1992Nov6.041155.9829@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
>Sender: news@ultb.isc.rit.edu (USENET News System)
>Nntp-Posting-Host: vaxc.isc.rit.edu
>Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
>Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
>References: <Bx5yAM.DF6@unix.amherst.edu>
>Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:11:55 EST
>Lines: 11

>To totally forget SnarfMatt's previous comments, and instead comment
>on his most recent post, I'd like to agree. I think that people ignore
>the ideas of kids. I was in a computer store killing some time while
>my parents were shopping. I must've stood there for a half hour and
>nobody asked me if they could help me, while one jerk was just fooling
>around on the PC's and some guy was helping other people. I didn't care
>because i had to waste time anyway, but it really pissed me off. To
>fight that, I tried to get a job at a computer store, I hope my age
>doesn't affect that.

>-Sgt. Kleper

If you are old enough to get a workers permit or of legal age to work there 
shouldn't be a problem.Age shouln't be a factor.I hope you get the job :).
From: bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Re: How very lame is how very lame.
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:15:46 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat) writes:

> Congratulations. You sound intelligent. I noticed that the kids here are more
> intelligent than the adults. However, you may have noticed that there are ove
> 20 posts in the first how very lame thread. Thank you for adding to the 
> discussion, but it is over. To be perfectly honest, I only made that original
> post out of general anger at humanity. You can always hit N and ignore it. 
> This actually seems like a decent forum. OK? I changed my mind. I like it now
> So please, all of you, stop flaming me. You are all just numbers.
> Daniel Max P. Drucker, you are number 23 or so. And to those of you who sent 
> private email, thank you for not clouding this fine forum with unneccessary 
> babble about how lame I am.
> SnarfMatt
> If any of you have decided against applying to Amherst College based on me,
> you are sad and should not apply here. We don't need people who judge a group
> based on one of its members.
> 

Well I guess everyone is happy and there is a happy ending...is this not 
great? ahhhhh

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From: mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Snarfblat)
Subject: Re: Blank eyes, yellow fever
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:46:36 GMT

I think one of the most overlooked, and still acceptable prejudices in this PC
age is heightism. Its ok for people to jokingly call me shorty (I wish they 
could at least say something original but they never do) or say "How's the
weather down there?" (equally cliched), but imagine if I walked up to a black
person and said "Hey, nigger, whats up?" I would probably get thrown out of the
school for racial harassment. At the very least I would be hated by everyone on
capmus. People say "Grow" to me. what if i said "Get white".  kinda sucks huh?
so, i think either people should stop insulting me (even jokingly) or i should
be able to say whatever I want,regardless of how it hurts anyone.
Matt

Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: What's a kid?
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:39:33 GMT


Alright.  One of the first posts I saw on this group was:

This group if for kids only!

Well, I have a question!  What do you consider a kid?  I think
of myself as a kid, even though I am married, and so do my
employers, basically, and so do my parents (which doesn't
really count, becaus eparents either think you are 5 or 35).
I know very little about life and the best way to live it.
I'm in my early 20's, and if all goes well (actually, we
had a pretty close call tonight) I hope to live to be 80+.
A mere quarter of my life as gone by.  I realize how littl;e
I really know about living.

I think it's funny that the college group calls anyone
younger than them (ie high school) a kid, and I don't.  I've
been out of school for over a year.

So, is this alt.persons<18, or for anyone who thinks he/she
is a kid?
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri "Droopy" Farenell)
Subject: Re: DIR/NEW
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:45:42 GMT

cjones@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>Hi Eric,  exactly where is Ball State University?  And what field of
>psychology are you majoring in?

I believe Ball State is in Ohio.
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: mahunt@eos.ncsu.edu (MARK ALLAN HUNT)
Subject: Re: Full House isn't THAT bad when compared to...
Originator: mahunt@c00315-2114bl.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mahunt@eos.ncsu.edu (MARK ALLAN HUNT)
Organization: Hunt Technologies
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:26:17 GMT


In article <da.721293905@coombs>, da@coombs.anu.edu.au (Daniel Austin) writes:
From: da@coombs.anu.edu.au (Daniel Austin)
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
Subject: Full House isn't THAT bad when compared to...
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 02:25:05 EST
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2


I can live with "Full House", even though it is a mindless "cutsie-cutsie" 
"look-at-the-little-darlings" comedy.  In fact, at least Full House has
the benefit of being well made, professionally done.

If you think Full House is bad, then you have never been subjected to the
excrutiatingly un-funny, mindless crap that is Canada's biggest embarrasment:

	"You Can't Do That On Television"


=======================================================================

I love "You can't do that on television".It is not mindless crap.When 
I come home from wherevery I was I like to watch a show that makes me laugh.
Is ther anything wrong with that?

-mark

mahunt@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.kids-talk
From: krice@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Rice)
Subject: Re: What's a kid?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 01:45:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.103933.13655@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:

>So, is this alt.persons<18, or for anyone who thinks he/she
>is a kid?

Well my guess is that it was probably actually ment to be a place for
the younger users of usenet (ie <18) to have a group, but I think that
idea has sorta been lost over the years.  I think now it is more of a
"who ever feels like posting" sorta thing.  There are probably more
posts by "older" people than there are by "kids".  I personally don't
care who posts here, but I don't know what the other "kids" think.

Ken


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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: New Topic:- Armageddon or The End Of The World
Keywords: Armageddon
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:25:19 GMT

In article <JH1ZTB6w165w@netlink.cts.com> bigbro@netlink.cts.com (Kenneth Sullivan) writes:
)Oh yeah, Nostradoms said the world was going to end like a week or two 
)ago, I remember that..hmmm when did Cayce say the world was going to end?

Michel du Notredame:

The year 1999 and seven months,
the king of terror descends from the sky.
The third Antichrist, soon annihilated,
but his bloody war lasts 27 years.

(that's from memory... possibly inaccurate.)
(no, i don't believe in any of this.)
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    you're a dummy, and they'll try to catch you, because hey, free dummy!
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