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From: META000 <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: What do you think of Prince?
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:23:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.173459.17147@news.mentorg.com> billw@ace.mentorg.com (Bill Wright) writes:
>
>I was just listening to "Strollin'" off of his latest album _Diamonds and
>Pearls_ and thought it had some really neat jazzy guitar work.  I also
>think his solo on "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Name" (from an
>earlier album) is really outstanding.  My impression is that he isn't
>considered very highly by the guitar playing community, but I don't really
>know why.  What are other's opinions about him?  While there is a lot of
>his material that I don't enjoy very much, each album seems to have a couple
>of real gems.  He seems to be a very diverse, talented musician and song
>writer.  Let's hear what you think.
>
>Of course, I can't post without the obligatory request for tabulature.
>Anyone have any or know of any existing Prince tabulature?
>
>Bill
>--
>             Bill Wright / bill_wright@mentorg.com
>
>                  "When in doubt, run it out!"
>.
>.
An interview I read with his guitarist a few months ago indicated that
the "Strollin'" solo was not Prince's but the other guitarist.  No
matter, I've been listening to Prince for 14 years now, and I still like
him a lot.  In some ways, he's the musical equivalent of Rousseau the
early 20th century painter, insomuch as he is quite untutored, naive,
and counterintuitive.  I am reminded of my favourite quote from composer
Charles Ives, "Everybody ought to have the opportunity NOT to be
overinfluenced".  Although there is no doubt that Prince owes a
tremendous debt of gratitude to both Jimi Hendrix and Jimmy Nolen for
his playing style, he still tends to operate very much in a vacuum as
far as being influenced and unconsciously guided by what's on radio and
MTV, and that makes him very much an original.  It's rare that I like
his new releases at first, and far more frequent that I come to like
them more upon further playing.  As for his guitar playing, he probably
has more in common with sax player Sonny Rollins or Pharoah Saunders
than he has with a lot of guitar players.  Very much a horn-style
player.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: holtslander@skyfox.usask.ca
Subject: Young Django for Django fans
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:56:20 GMT

There is (or was) a group called "Young Django" who play hot acoustic swing
in the style of Django Rhienhart (sp?).  To add further confusion I only
have a tape copy Don't know the label or anything - just know you Django
fans should know about it.

For all you desperate fans, there is a catalog of all music, (tapes records
Cd's etc.) published that has all the publication data enabling you to find
the label and address of the record company so you can order anyuthing in
print.  Most descent record(archaic term?) stores or public libraries have
these.
From: dave@pipi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (David Wuertele)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: My thumb can't do the Hendrix
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:11:29 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Institute of Industrial Science, University of tokyo.

I've been trying to do the stuff tabbed in the _Jimi_Hendrix_Concerts_
book.  I only have a cheapo acoustic.  Is it supposed to be hard at first
to curl your thumb around the neck to fret the 6th string, while doing all
sorts of other things all over the neck with your other fingers?  My thumb
just doesn't bend far enough.  Do I need to get an electric guitar?  Or
will this get better with practice?

Dave
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: garath@engin.umich.edu (Scott Grosch)
Subject: Guitar for sale
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 15:36:15 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: net


	My roommate is selling a Charvel electric guitar.  It's a sweet
looking red color, and it comes with a 10 Watt practice amp.  He's asking
$400 for it.  Pleae mail me if interested.

--
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Programmer                                         Bitnet: user7a4b@umichu
Computer Aided Engineering Network                  University of Michigan
From: gistim@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tim Raebig)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Soldano mod
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:41:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Educational Computing Network

Does anyone have any experience or know anything about the Soldano
plug-in modification?  It supposedly, according to the ad in Guitar,
gives better distortion, better control over tone...  It looks like
it just plugs into a preamp socket (couldn't be for the power side,
could it?) -based on the illustration in the mag.  I think it might
be called Hot Mod or something like that.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert)
Subject: small guitars
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:03:44 GMT


An old parlor guitar might be just the thing.  I have a Martin-type
Wyman guitar from around the turn of the century which has been carried on
several different airplanes and always fit in the overhead.  (Maybe there's
another plane on which it would not)  The size or style is "5".  I do not
know if anyone is making them now, but any of the vintage places (Elderly
Inst, Mandolin Bros, etc.) could get you one.  They usually have
unbelievable sound for the little bodies they have.  Very sweet.  
I also have a back-pack "guitar," but I can't really recomend it as a
musical instrument.  

Terri
(Rob lets me use this toy sometimes...)

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice)
Subject: Repairs in Toronto
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:31:40 GMT

Coudl anybody recommend a good place to go to in Toronto or
Mississauga for repairs on  acoustic guitars.

Thnx

Matthew
From: jh@first.gmd.de (Joerg Heuer)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Guitar Center Sale
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:07:05 GMT

These prices make me think of risking a mail order. Does anyone know if
they do mail order, and under what conditions/fees etc.

To give You an idea: american strats prices start at about DM 1500,- in
germany.  (Have a look on the exchange rates for enlightenment - it's much.)

Ciao,
J"org.
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From: ccsmh@gdt.bath.ac.uk (Mark Harding)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: What do you think of Prince?
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:11:25 GMT
Organization: University of Bath, England

billw@ace.mentorg.com (Bill Wright) writes:

>I was just listening to "Strollin'" off of his latest album _Diamonds and
>Pearls_ and thought it had some really neat jazzy guitar work.  I also
>think his solo on "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Name" (from an
>earlier album) is really outstanding.  My impression is that he isn't
>considered very highly by the guitar playing community, but I don't really
>know why.  What are other's opinions about him?  While there is a lot of
>his material that I don't enjoy very much, each album seems to have a couple
>of real gems.  He seems to be a very diverse, talented musician and song
>writer.  Let's hear what you think.

I have been a *huge* fan of Prince since I heard 'When Doves Cry' on the radio
a few years back.  I am not interested in most other funk/soul bands but
Prince is something special. 

I tend to prefer the progressive type bands like Pink Floyd and Yes, so the
Purple one is a bit of a side step for me.  

I've seen Pink Floyd live 5 times over the last 4/5 years and I thought that
concerts couldn't get better.  Then I saw 'Yes' in concert and while overall
the concerts weren't as enjoyable as PF, once they got rockin' e.g. Roundabout
and Starship Trooper I was awestruck - I had never seen a group of musicians
gel the way the Yes guys did.  This year I saw Prince in London.  The whole
show was fantastic  - The lighst went down, a red light started shining through
the haze on stage and 'Thunder' What a way to start! Until that time Prince was
someone I listened too and placed up in my top 10 artists list. But now I
would quite easily say that I think Prince is *the* most talented musician and
performer in the world today.  Michael Jackson - forget him. 1 album every 4/5
years compared to a Prince album every year!. 

I still tend to listen to Yes and Pink Floyd, early genesis etc more than I
listen to Prince - but when I do listen it's a very enjoyable experience.

I think that Prince's guitar playing is very good - just check out the 
LoveSexy video for some closeups of his playing.

Sorry to prattle on,

Mark.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rg@futserv.austin.ibm.com (R.G. Keen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: What is this thing worth?
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:42:28 GMT
Reply-To: ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!tmn1.austin.ibm.com!tung
Organization: IBM Coporation - Advanced Workstations Division.

I inherited a bass amp, head only, no cabinet. I'd like to move it,
but got zero replies to my local advertising. Does anyone know what 
a reasonable price for this thing is? It's an Ampeg B-25r, two channel
head with only tone controls and switches, and a 55 Watt output section.
It's all tube. Should I throw it away, or hoard it until the next 
collector's convention? Neither?
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: platt@watson.ibm.com (Daniel E. Platt)
Subject: Re: What is a "strat" ?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:55:45 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Aug12.213919.11331@wam.umd.edu>, reh@wam.umd.edu (Huddleston) writes:
|> glaurent@wombat.inria.fr (Guillaume Laurent) writes:
|>  
|> > Note that, however, a Stratocaster is to guitars what a Stradivarius is to
|> > violins and cellos. So messing up the two wouldn't be a great mistake.
|>  
|> Not to hear some people tell it.  From the flames I've been getting from my
|> mistake about this, you'd think USENET was populated largely by those anal-
|> retentive types who can't tolerate even a tiny slip ;-).
|>  
|> >                                        Guillaume.

Strats are very versitile, very rugged, sort of strange feeling (long scale,
straight neck/body joints, etc).  I prefer playing my Gibsons, but I like my
Strat.  I guess I'd say the strat's a great working guitar, but not my favorite.
I wouldn't equate it with the violin.

On the other hand, I'll be the first to say that this is almost a religious
issue, with some folks who will swear by the strat as the ONLY way to go.
I don't say that as a criticism of strat folks either; I completely respect
that viewpoint -- I can easily see why they'd feel that way.

I guess I can't see why you've been flamed about your quip...


Dan

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ccb@axemax.zk3.dec.com (Charlie Bennett)
Subject: Re: Harmony machines (was Re: New Effect)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Nashua, NH
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:22:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.173908.14626@dgbt.doc.ca>, serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee) writes:

|> 
|> Who makes these boxes, and how much?

Go to a Music Store. There are a dozen manufacturers. Buy a guitar
magazine. There's one of these boxes advertised on every third page.


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: dpm@cray.com (Donald P. Maghrak)
Subject: Ravels Bolero (was RE: Buckethead)
Keywords: jazz, Zappa
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:43:38 CDT

In article <1992Aug17.222422.12391@wam.umd.edu> peugh@wam.umd.edu (General Napolean) writes:
>
>  Also, i was in the car listening to a local jazz station.  I heard a jazz 
>version of Reval's Bolero.  It was sooooo cool!  Anyone know who did it, and
>what disc/record it's on?
>  Thanks.
>
	I would guess that it's done by Frank Zappa on the live
	double CD set:
	
		The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life

	recorded live, 1986.  Other interesting things on it.

		Sunshine of Your Love
		Stairway to Heaven
		Ring of Fire 	(yep, Johnny Cash tune)
		Bonanza theme   (short)
		Godfather theme (short, not sure if its on this tho)
		Purple Haze

	Of course theres quite a few Zappa standards also.
	It's a must for Zappa fans.
Don
From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Blues Group
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:34:16 GMT
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center

In article <deadhead.714202864@beyond> deadhead@beyond.ugcs.caltech.edu (stephen thompson) writes:
>In fact, both I and "bc" have posted blues-related postings/questions to
>rec.music.bluenote since this discussion that rec.music.bluenote doesn't
>cut it was brought up.  There was no response to either of our postings.

I stand corrected.  I re-ran the search today, and found your articles,
both of which arrived here only recently.  (In fact, I responded to the
posting on the early, blues-oriented incarnation of Fleetwood Mac with
a partial discography covering the period in question.)

--Rsk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: Guitar Lesson
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 12:50:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.083752.10636@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK>, css1rs@gondor.mcs.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers) writes:
|> I had my first guitar lesson this thursday, it was great. It
|> realy opened my musicle eys a great deel. So I only learn't
                   ^^^^^^^
|> a bit about 3 chord theory and about root's of chords. But the
|> guy that's teaching me, is realy good. I don't know what it is
|> but I think ive just moved on a big step, as far as I mental
|> atitude an awarnes goes. Im still crap (im not putting my self
              ^^^^^^^
|> down, just saying that at the moment I know hardly anything).
|> 
|> What did other people feel like after there first lesson?
|> Im interested.
|> 
|> Cheers.


	Have you thought about lessons in spelling?  


Only kidding :-)

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
"If you got to it and didn't do it, may you never get to it, and do it again"


Frank V. Ricciardi

fvr@bae.bellcore.com

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: wem@controls.ccd.harris.com (Walt Marchand)
Subject: Gibson SG
Followup-To: wem@ccd.harris.com
Summary: newby wants advice on buying old guitar
Keywords: advice, Gibson SG
Organization: Harris Controls
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:36:35 GMT

It's been many moons since I last played, but reading this 
group has motivated me. I want to buy an electric 6-string
with easy action.  Long ago, used to play Gibson ES-335 and
Gibson ES-175. Budget: $300. 

A local music store (not many in this town) has a 1968 Gibson
SG with a crappy finish and some modifications, but it sounds
good and plays well. They are asking $300. It this overpriced?

More generally, what do I need to be careful about?
If the neck is warped, how can I tell?

If I were buying a motorcycle, I could come up with a list of
conditions that any acceptable bike should satisfy. Does anyone
have such a list for a guitar?

As you can see, I don't even know enough to ask decent questions.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice or opinions.


Walt Marchand
wem@ccd.harris.com
(407) 242-4353
From: ia@st-andrews.ac.uk (Ian Angles)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Ty Tabor's Guitar Sound
Date: 15 Aug 92 14:22:51 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

In article <1992Aug14.195957.8801@wam.umd.edu> peugh@wam.umd.edu (General Napolean) writes:
>
>  Well, from what i've heard Ty Tabor is REALLY modest.  He doesn't want any to
>try to sound like him, he thinks that everyone should develop their own sonud.
>He goes to great lengths to keep what kind of head he plays through a secret.
>I've heard he even disguises it.  So i've no idea what-so-ever how he gets his
>sound, other than that he plays a Yamaha RGZ(just as you mentioned).

I've heard (I can't remember where) that he uses some sort of harmonizer
(but harmonizing (!) the same note) to thicken up the sound - sounds
plausible...


ian	"maybe, who knows?"
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Xref: sparky alt.guitar:7276 rec.music.bluenote:6374
From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Blues Group
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:26:25 GMT
 <EeYYyX600Uh7M1WJYp@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I think Rick is right.  A news group exists whose charter specifies blues and
blues-type discussions.  If we "blues brothers/sisters" don't find enough
articles on blues, post some.  If we don't get answers to posted questions,
post 'em again.  If the jazzers whine about too many blues postings then we're
on the right track.  We already have a forum, let's use it.

I think that those who have suggested clearly stating the direction of a post
in the header are right.  Let's make it clear for bluesers that here is an
article for them.  I posted an opinion of some early British blues yesterday.
I am waiting for some responses, pro or con, to what I had to say.

Let's stick with alt.guitar for stuff about the instrument and hop on over to
r.m.b when we want to talk some trash about the blues.

The poodleheads can still talk about how great a guitarist Slash is.  We just
don't have to read it.

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |   Samuel Dashiell Hammett
From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Harmony machines (was Re: New Effect)
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:53:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.122543.11863@dgbt.doc.ca>, serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah
Hee) says:
>
>Is there anything such as a pitch shifter. Something of the likes that
>you play a note, and the output come out one octave higher?

Yep.  And even better.  They gots these little boxes what will make harmonies
and stuff when you sing through them.  You can even say what kind of harmony.
They real expensive.  The little boxes what only make octave shifts much
cheaper.

Neat, huh?

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Subject: Re: Playing lefty in a right handed world ( was: Guitar book for lefties)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 15:34:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.061029.14790@cis.ohio-state.edu> fullerto@tuna.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton) writes:
>In article <5fxW02uU1d1Y01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> drp40@cd.amdahl.com writes:
>>In article <1992Aug9.210715.1@cortex>, plauterbach@cortex.prospect.com (Peter C. Lauterbach) writes:
>>>
>>>	BTW:  I was cruising a guitar store, looking for lefty guitars, as one
>>>is wont to do, and one sales slime said: "We don't carry left handed guitars;
>>>if you were MY student, I'd make you play right handed..."
>>>
>>
>>What's the point in playing "left" handed?  What's the difference?  Neither
>>hand's job is easy, so you might as well save yourself the hassle and learn
>>right handed.  If you're left handed, you'll have an easier time with your
>>fret hand, and a tougher time with your pick hand.  Seems to me that you
>>might be better off than right handers!  Synchronization is what's most 
>>difficult, and that wouldn't matter which way you played!

As a lefty who was made to play right handed because the people who were
teaching me thought it would be better for all concerned, I can say there
IS a difference.  I have been playing for 12 years and in that time, I have
not been able to learn how to fingerpick, even for the simplest patterns.  I
have also been unable to develop a smooth style of playing and so I still, at
times, sound downright clunky.  Maybe part of the reason is a lack of talent,
but I think that playing backwards also has something to do with it.

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Subject: Re: Harmony machines (was Re: New Effect)
Organization: The Communications Research Centre
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 17:39:08 GMT

In article <92233.075320WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.122543.11863@dgbt.doc.ca>, serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah
>Hee) says:
>>
>>Is there anything such as a pitch shifter. Something of the likes that
>>you play a note, and the output come out one octave higher?
>
>Yep.  And even better.  They gots these little boxes what will make harmonies
>and stuff when you sing through them.  You can even say what kind of harmony.
>They real expensive.  The little boxes what only make octave shifts much
>cheaper.
>
>Neat, huh?
>
>Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"

Who makes these boxes, and how much?
-- 
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serge@dgbt.doc.ca		take for granted of what they have, and 
				only care for what they want."
My opinions are mine only.
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:7080 alt.rock-n-roll.hard:346
From: harper@godot.think.com (Jim Harper)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: test
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:06:46
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: alt.
NNTP-Posting-Host: godot.think.com

Just a test
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent)
Subject: fvr@bae.bellcore.com
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:30:52 GMT


  Hi, fvr@bae.bellcore.com.  For some reason everytime i try to send mail to you
it bounces.  Do i have your address correct?

Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab