HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo J W Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcon
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England

I have a few questions about the Falcon.

1) What speed is the data bus and memory (I assume 16MHz)?
2) Can the DSP/blitter/DMA directly access ALL available memory?
3) Can you buy the Falcon in the shops in ANY country yet?
4) Does the #499 UK price still hold after the devaluation of the pound
against the dollar?  (It should go up to at least #560 if Atari are to keep
the same margins).
5) Does the VDI use the DSP to speed up graphics?
6) Are Atari taking advantage of the non-standard RAM boards by overpricing
them, if so how easy would it be to manufacture 3rd party boards.

Thanks

- Leo Hendry (previously cstdxas@csv...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: selbyr@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: Mainframe transfers
Date: 26 SEP 92 23:20:14 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada

Are there any half decent easy to use transfer protocals available
to make transfering files between a mainframe like an IBM 4381-12 and
an ST faster than kermit - I mean software for the mainframe. For
a VAX 8600? I'm thinking perhaps a version of zmodem, or even just
xmodem.
From: undermind!Steve_Johnson@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari falcon memory speed
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:54:10 GMT
Organization: Fortress R&D 404/521-0445 v.32bis TurboPEP
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

No, the Falcon030 RAM boards don't have any custom logic chips.
From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: DM Hint disk
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:25:12 GMT
	<OKES.92Sep29125808@SunLab42.essex.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: okes@essex.ac.uk's message of 29 Sep 92 11:58:08 GMT

In article <OKES.92Sep29125808@SunLab42.essex.ac.uk> okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S) writes:
| I have a DM/CSB dungeon editor prog, if anyone wants it...
|
| It's a much-improved version of the CSB editor program which appeared on an
| ST Format coverdisk over 2 years ago.
|

Just as a thought, could anyone do me a favour and upload it to a.a?
If you are willing, please mail me.

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From: cowgilc@tsunami.CS.ORST.EDU (Clayton Neil Cowgill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: using Falcon DSP as modem?
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:13:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep28.221318.9060
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept

In article <1992Sep28.191519.4983@phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de>  
kruel@phys-chemie.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (Thomas-Martin Kruel) writes:
> So when we talk about the possibility of making use of the 
> DSP 56k as a modem, is anybody out there who knows if the 
> appropriate software is available for the NeXT ? 
> As far as I know, the same DSP is in that machine.
> 

Wow, I'm just posting all over today... :-)

If you recall the original announcements for the NeXT, they too were  
billing the internal DSP as having capabilities for 9600 baud modem in  
software. Never happened. I think it was too much of a load for one lowly  
56K.

Maybe the extra clock speed on the Falcon's 56K will help. Also (and  
*very* improtantly) does anyone know the size of the Falcon's local DSP  
SRAM? Could be bad news if it's 32K or less... :-(

					-Clay
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon at BCS Show - Eyewitness Report!
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:25:11 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD

Disclaimer: THIS MAY ALL VERY WELL BE WRONG. I AM EXTREMELY BAD AT MATH

In article <EemCuNy00awWQJlI5=@andrew.cmu.edu> Stefan Monnier <osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 29-Sep-92 Re: Atari Falcon at
>BCS Sho.. Jack W. Wine@uhunix.uhcc (1128)
>> Previous calculations of memory bandwidth were based on 60 Hz vertical
>> refresh so the 72 Hz means the Falcon is at least 20% faster!  Also
>> 800x600 at 60 Hz uses almost the same bandwidth as 640x480 at 72 Hz
>
>640x480x72 means that there is 32MB/s of video memory bandwidth
>(it could be less, but it seems sensible)

Well I did calculate it this way:

Hoped for (at least) buswidth total = 32bit * 16Mhz = 64MByte/s. 
Why do I assume this ? Well the 030 is 32bit wide and runs at... 16Mhz.

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Known values from Quick Index 2.2 (taken from c't Magazine #10)

640x400x?Hz monochrome:   memory 478 
640x400x?Hz 256 colors:   memory 362

I just guess that memory writes to the bus and checks how fast RAM
can be accessed.
I assume also Hz is 60.
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Videobus needs:  monochrome  640x400x60/8 =  1.92 MB/s (1 color = 1 bit)
		 color       640x400x60   = 15.36 MB/s (256 colors = 1 byte)

Cpubandwidth left (mono):  64MB/s -  1.92MB/s  = 62.08 MB/s
                  (color): 64MB/s - 15.36 MB/s = 48.64 MB/s


Quick Index, CPU speed loss:   478/362   = 1.32
My calculated speed loss   : 62.08/48.64 = 1.27

(If the Falcon had 128MB/s we would expect a factor of 1.1 and
 with 32MB/s a Factor of 1.8)

So I'd guess we can assume that the bandwidth of the Falcon System
is around 64MB/s.

So if you don't care what the CPU is doing, theoretically you could
get a little more than 1200x700x72Hz with 256 colors out of the Falcon bus.


Nat!
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From: Markus_Schlegel@bn.maus.de (Markus Schlegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Autoconfiguration of *.ACC
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:30:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: BN.A5602
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.13

Is there any possibility on the Atari ST under TOS 1.02 to

- get *.ACCs to work at a preset time and vice versa deactivate
  them at a given time?


- Autostart and then autoEXIT a *.PRG at a preset time?

My problem is the following: I'm trying to set up a fax-polling-facility
with a 1040ST, using a BBS-System for polling faxes, which are put into
a directory by a fax-receiving *.ACC.
The problem is that both, fax.ACC and PRG demand full control of the
RS232 serial intervface as long as they're being active, so that once
the *.ACC is started, there's no way back to normal data-transmissions,
only fax would work. EXCEPT for the possibility of deactivating the
*.ACC somehow, going in to the BBS and then re-activate the fax-*.ACC-
module.

Thanx-a-lot for your responses in PERSONAL MESSAGE (since I don't and
cannot read this newsgroup) to
Markus Schlegel@BN.MAUS.DE
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: fergus@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (George Fergus)
Subject: Re: ATARI/IBM disk compatability, is it flawless?
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:54:23 GMT

Something should be added to the FAQ about the problems one can have trying
to use MS-DOS-formatted floppy disks on the ST.  TOS can fail to recognize
that you have put in a new floppy disk, and this can result in a trashed
directory or TOS insisting that a disk is completely blank.  The cause,
as I understand it, is that when formatting a disk the ST puts a random
number into the boot sector (that is used to detect when the disk has been
changed), whereas MS-DOS puts a fixed number number into this location.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: comp.sys.atari.falcon
From: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 10:13:10 GMT
Reply-To: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Oct6.081401.2306@jet.uk>, pjc@jet.uk (Peter J Card) writes:

>Basically, I don`t believe that a need exists for a new group, although
>that doesn`t mean it would be actively harmful. After all, the joy of
>reading the news lies in finding stuff you didn`t know about already...

What about those of us that have no interest in the falcon at the 
 moment and just want to get on with using and enjoying our ST's ???
Right now I can't afford, and am not going to be able to afford
 a Falcon for quite some time... the economy has seen to that here. It's
 got to that stage where all these posts about the falcon are boring and
 of no interest to me. 

I realise that I can just skip them, in fact, that is what I am doing,
 but it would be nice if they had their own place to go.
There are a lot of newsgroups a lot quieter than what these 2 newsgroups
 would be if it was split.

There is also the other problem of crossposting to consider... I bet that
 most messages will end up in both groups for a while.

 Craig.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps)
Subject: Re: STZip 2.0 released
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:08:58 GMT

sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>In article <1992Sep24.231207.626@stell.gna.org>, vincent@stell.fr.mugnet.org (Vincent Pomey) writes:

>>I've uploaded STZip 2.0 to atari.archive.umich.edu as stzip20.tos (self
>>extracting file, currently in /atari/new but will probably be moved).>

>>vincent@stell.fr.mugnet.org

>You should read this Group more often, I uploaded it some weeks back..??

>Have a look in the archiver directory...

I did. It's listed in the ls-lR file as being 27th Sep, but isn't in the
/atari/Archivers directory as stated. Anyone know why? Has it been
withdrawn?

The permissions on /atari/New are wierd, and prevent my seeing what's
there.

Ian
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From: csw93@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Adam Turnbull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: New Games on Atari Archive
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:08:03 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <hjv.718382555@groucho.phil.ruu.nl>, by hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra):
> mjb@cs.nott.ac.uk (M J Brownlow) writes:
> 
>>Hi all!
> 
>>Just a word to let you know that I'll be uploading a couple of games to
>>atari archive later on today, so they'll be available in a few days..
> 
>>The games are:
> 
>>GRAV 2:  Follow up to GRAV, much improved!
> 
>>CHAOS:   An unofficial conversion of the spectrum classic: 700K of samples!
>>         CHAOS works only on 1MB+ machines!
> 
> For which resolutions?
> 
To save Martin the bother... LOW res!
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From: doucet@ripolin.laas.fr (Jean-Etienne Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: A newest "mines clearer" game on atari.archive
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:01:45 GMT
Reply-To: doucet@ripolin.laas.fr
Organization: LAAS-CNRS, Toulouse (France)



Hi happy netters,

Preliminary: this post is only of concern for people that have nothing better 
to do that waste their time playing games...

Now that we are in limited company, straight to the subject:
I've uploaded a little game last week on atari.archive, which is called
Hexmines and is currently in the atari/Newitems directory (mind the
capital N). It should be soon on the Clausthal site in Germany.

This could be a "classical" find-the-mines-in-the-field game, except for
some features:
 - tiles are hexagons instead of squares: this changes the game much;
 - several parameters can be set: number of bombs, number of lives
   (so as not to quit the game at the first explosion), and the
   number of "open zones" at the game's start.
   
It's a low rez only program that should run fine on ST/STE, but
I guess not on TT and even less on Falcon. Don't know for Mega ST/STE.

Also, it's the first (1.0) version, fully functionnal but whose sole
goal is for me to get ideas/suggestions/remarks in order to improve the
game. So I wait for to hear from you.
Alse about bugs reports: the first one who finds one bug will automati-
call receive successive new versions all his lifetime (or mine).
Version 1.1 is ready (nicer dialog boxes + varying field size) but I'll
wait a little before to upload it; see above.

Last thing: it's a free (i.e. not shareware) program, so you can go on...

A bientot.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Subject: Carbon Copy for Mac on Spectre?
Summary: Can this be done? 
Keywords: mac, spectre, remote, carbon copy
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 16:01:29 EDT

Just out of curiousity, is anybody out there using Spectre to
run a remote Mac with Carbon Copy for the Mac?  If Spectre 
could handle System 7, we might be able to use Remote Access...
but without System 7 support, I thought maybe Carbon Copy
would work.  Anyway, if anybody has seen this work, I'd be
interested in hearing how well or poorly it works...Also,
what speed modems were used.
Thanks,
Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: fergus@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (George Fergus)
Subject: Re: Timeworks DTP and Word Perfect files!!
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:12:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.105204.1@sscl.uwo.ca>
   richardson@sscl.uwo.ca writes:
>For the first time ever I tried importing a Word Perfect file into Timeworks
>DTP (version 1)...obviously it didn't work!  Has anyone had this import work? 
>If so what version of WP was the file?  It imported some text, but all the
>control codes also seemed to be there...a real mess :^(  Anyway, any help would
>be appreciated.

I have had no trouble importing Word Perfect 4.X files generated by the
Atari version of Word Perfect into TIMEWORKS PUBLISHER 1.0, with boldface
and italics and so forth intact.  I have also imported files from the
MS-DOS version of Word Perfect, but if you are using WORD PERFECT 5.X you
have to go to the TEXT IN/OUT menu and save your document in 4.X format.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dillenbu@bert.eecs.uic.edu (John Dillenburg)
Subject: GCC 2.1 and templates..bug?
Keywords: GCC
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:39:20 GMT

I get two bombs when I try to compile the following C++ code
using GCC 2.1, anyone know why?
--------------------cut here--------------------
#include <stream.h>

template<class T> 
class vector {
 public:
  vector(int) { };
};

template<class T>
ostream& operator<<(ostream& strm, vector<T> &) {
  return strm;
}

main() {
  vector<int> v(10);
  cout << "v=" << v << "\n";
}

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|  Univ. of Illinois at Chicago                         |  man down without   |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk (Adam Pelled)
Subject: Re: ST questions:  FPUs
Reply-To: apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:07:00 +0000


>In article <1992Sep24.155406.7739@ac.dal.ca>, cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes) writes:
>>Don Allison wrote:
>>
>>>2.  Having just put an ICD AdSpeed STE in my system and added a
>>>floating point coprocessor, I was looking for a compiler that
>>>would support using a 68881 as a peripheral, like the ST's do.
>>>Does such a critter exist?  I tried Laser C which supposedly
>>>has a library that supports this option, but noticed no time
>>>differences when running with software emulation or the hardware
>>>coprocessor (30000 adds, also 10000 sines seemed to take the
>>>same amount of time either way).  I was hoping to see some of
>>>the claimed 10x speedup in some raytracing software I was going
>>>to port.
>>
>>I tried to reply to this by email, but it seems to have bounced.
>>
>> I have a Mega STE, with 68881, and find an improvement with Laser C, 
>>though I don't usually program in C.
>> You need to link in the '881 library with a line something like (from 
>>Gulam):
>> d:\megamax>> ld -o sch881.prg init.o scheqn.o lib881.a libc.a
>>
>> The order of the two math libraries (lib881.a and libc.a) is crucial. I
>>got a speed improvement of about a factor of 17 on the savage benchmark
>>(heavy use of transcendentals, where the FPU really shines),but less than a
>>factor of two improvement on a floating point intensive calculation not
>>involving transcendentals (just adds, multiplies, etc). 
>>
>>John Cordes
>>Dept. of Physics
>>Dalhousie University
>>Halifax, N.S., Canada  B3H 3J5
>>email: cordes@ac.dal.ca

    If it hasn't already been mentioned Lattice C (v 5.52) ahd support for
maths co-processors, auto detecting/software/or FPU options. Lattice C (tm)
is a Hisoft product.

    Adam.
From: antony@milton.u.washington.edu (Anthony Hand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: VT100 for Interlink
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:19:07 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

I'm looking for a better vt100 terminal emulation that I can use with
my Interlink telecom program.  The one that comes with this program is less
than perfect.  

Could someone recommend a good vt100 that would be compatible?

Thanks,
Antony

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: arneso@ifi.uio.no (Arne Olav Sommer)
Subject: OCR programs
Cc: arneso@ifi.uio.no
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:18:34 GMT
Originator: arneso@falketind.ifi.uio.no


Is there anyone on the net that have experiences with Sherlook 
professional OCR.  I consider to buy it, and would like some
feedback on it.  Also, what is the German lsit price for it?

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From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon in Australia
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:19:13 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

From article <1992Sep25.123525.22133@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, by mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger):
> In the referenced article, swanee@megadata.mega.oz.au (Geoff Swan) writes:
> that as usual we in England will be paying way over the odds for these
> machines, typically in my experience we pay the same amount in UK
> pounds as the Americans do in dollars!
> 
> Oh well such is life. (or c'est la vie for those language buffs).
> 
> Does anyone know why we always pay more in England?  I've known cases
> where it would have been cheaper to get on a ferry drive to Germany,
> buy a machine and drive back, rather than buy from a UK distributor.
> 

Well, I attended the ECTS (European Computer-entertainment Trade Show)
about a month ago, in London, and Atari UK expressed that the bottom
of the range Falcon030 WOULD be on sale for #499 (four hundred and
ninety-nine pounds sterling). This is obviously excluding Hard
disk,etc, but at least it's cheap.

Antony.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: fergus@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (George Fergus)
Subject: Re: Falcon vs Super Famicon
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:35:11 GMT

In article <landrews.05ec@outb.wimsey.bc.ca>
   landrews@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews) writes:

>Show me a program on the IBM that is as easy to use and intuitive as GEM...

Just in case it's of interest, you can still get the MS-DOS version of GEM.
I installed it on the PC I occasionally use at work, as provides me with
a familiar user interface and is not a memory/disk space hog like Windows.

In the current version (GEM/3) the desktop has been changed so that it no
longer infringes on Apple's copyright, but I am one of the lucky people who
still has a copy of the original version, which is identical to the Atari
version (except for viewing/printing files).
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: 1.44 Mb floppy formatting programs
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:24:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct6.222453.10173
Organization: University of Washington

Does anyone know of any PD or shareware 1.44 meg floppy formatters?  The
desktop doesn't allow 82 tracks & 20 sectors per track.  Thanks.

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Atari 1040ST, 1224, Software for Sale
From: cdowns@eve.wright.edu (Charles D. Downs II)
Date: 3 Oct 92 11:20:51 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wright State University

Atari 1040ST, Atari 1224 Color Monitor for Sale

Software included:
   Licence to Kill, Beverly Hills Cop, Swiftar, World Games, Leather
Goddess of Phobos, Pinball Magic, StarGlider, Indy (the Action Game),
Boulddash Construction Kit, MindWheel, Scruples, Hacker, ST-Talk, Time
Bandit, ProCopy 1.6, Music Studio, ST X-Former (& cable), Dungeon
Master, PC-Ditto, BattleZone. Missile Commander, Laser C, Language Disk,
1st Word

Other:
   Clock Module (battery is dead and needs changed), Joysticks, Midi
Cable.

Make an offer - I'm not sure what all of this is worth.  I need to get
rid of the system to pay for some college expenses.

Also available:
  Atari 1200XL, 1050 Disk Drive, decent software
  Atari 2600 with about 20-30 games

Respond to cdowns@eve.wright.edu if interested.