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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Maquiladoras in America: Factory in Berkeley poisons labor
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:47:09 GMT
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In article <JMC.92Sep5213152@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>Harel Barzilai posts:

>     Berkeley firm gets rich while poisoning workers. You can
>     help by calling the company (510) 843-8910, and filling up
>     their fax (510) 843-5906.

I don't know if this is harrassment, but I think it is.  I have faxed
a copy of this post with instructions on how they can find the
original post and how to track down Harel to the firm in question.  I
am also sending this post to Harel directly and I urge other to do so.
After all, if he thinks it is appropriate to fill up other people's
faxes how can he complain if we fill up his e-mail?

>     For more info call Chris Clarke @ the ecology Center (510)
>     548-2220

>Yes, but what's the ecology Center's fax number?

>John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
>*
>He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

---------------------
Sir or Madam,

I don't know if your fax is getting loads of junk, but if it is the
message referenced above is the reason.

Just so you can interpret it, John McCarthy is responding to a post by
someone named Harel Barilzai.  Harel posted an article to a bulletin
board read by on the order of 100,000 people urging them to "fill up"
your fax.  I didn't get Harel's original article so I can't give it
to you.  John quoted it.

If you want to get in touch with Harel the best place to start is with
Cornell - his computer account is there.  They may also be interested
themselves - most universities have policies prohibiting people from
using computers to harrass others.

Mike Friedman
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From: red_trek@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: "Short Env. tips" still avaialble!
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:54:17 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Once again:  I still have available a file called "Short Environmental
Tips"; this file is about 300 lines (40 blocks) long, and contains ideas
on things *you* can doto save the earth.  It is heavily, but not
exclusively, based on "50 simple Things You Can Do to Save the Earth."
"50 Simple Things" is available at bookstores, or by mailorder thru
EarthWorks press #25, 1400 Shattuck Ave, Berkeley, CA 94709, United
States of America.

If interested in obtaining a copy, contact me (Andrea Shettle) at:

Red_Trek@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu


Note:  "Short Environmental Tips" is expressly *NOT* copyrighted!
Please *DO* distribute in any way you can!  Pass on to people
you know, both on and off the net; crosspost to newsgroups, mailing lists,
or bulletin board services; use tips as fillers in any publications
you maintain (including any books you may publish in the future!);
print out and donate to your local or school library; or anything else
you can think of!  I appreciate, but do not insist on, 1) being 
notified of *mass* distributions (crosspostings; publication etc)
2) being credited as the author of the list.
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Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth,alt.activism,talk.environment
Subject: Re: Maquiladoras in America: Factory in Berkeley poisons labor
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:18:43 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Sep9.154709.6610@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
> In article <JMC.92Sep5213152@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>>Harel Barzilai posts:
> 
>>     Berkeley firm gets rich while poisoning workers. You can
>>     help by calling the company (510) 843-8910, and filling up
>>     their fax (510) 843-5906.
> 
> I don't know if this is harrassment, but I think it is.  I have faxed
> a copy of this post with instructions on how they can find the
> original post and how to track down Harel to the firm in question.  I
> am also sending this post to Harel directly and I urge other to do so.
> After all, if he thinks it is appropriate to fill up other people's
> faxes how can he complain if we fill up his e-mail?

	I bet $50 that H*r*l has his friend mail some email from "root" that
basically says "help, I'm being oppressed!" to your sysadmin :).

> Sir or Madam,
> 
> I don't know if your fax is getting loads of junk, but if it is the
> message referenced above is the reason.
> 
> Just so you can interpret it, John McCarthy is responding to a post by
> someone named Harel Barilzai.  Harel posted an article to a bulletin
> board read by on the order of 100,000 people urging them to "fill up"
> your fax.  I didn't get Harel's original article so I can't give it
> to you.  John quoted it.
> 
> If you want to get in touch with Harel the best place to start is with
> Cornell - his computer account is there.  They may also be interested
> themselves - most universities have policies prohibiting people from
> using computers to harrass others.

	Ooooo, you dirty imperialist running dog! :)

	BTW-if you need proof that H*r*l thinks this kind of behaviour "is a
bad thing to do", I've got some email I can send you.

Brett                                                      
_______________________________________________________________________________
Proconsul Computer Consulting                                        CHA-CHING!
Better, Cheaper, Faster					       (Pick any two :)
Disclaimer:								   NOT!
From: jym@remarque.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Cars an their ill effects on the earth...
Date: 15 Sep 1992 07:33:07 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
	<BuL9n6.3CJ@ais.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

In article <BuL9n6.3CJ@ais.org> draper@ais.org (Patrick Draper) writes:

> There's also at least two power plants that burn tires
> (20,000 a day) to produce electricity. . . . They are cleaner
> than coal plants. Also, one of them is in California and
> easily meets the air test standards.
>
> There's a lot of resistance from environmentalists to these
> plants. The primary objection is that they "reduce recycling."

=o= My information on this is a bit out of date, but from what
I can see the primary objection has been concern about toxins in
the air and in the ashes:  concern that what goes in the air is
not adequately addressed by the air standards and that the ashes
represent a toxic disposal hazard.

=o= There are environmentalists who are all for disposing of
tires this way, having judged it the best alternative.
    <_Jym_>
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Date: 07 Sep 92 11:54 PDT
Subject: In GATT They Trust (II)
Nf-ID: #N:9209071853.AA10637@poly.math.cor:708847898:000:2482
Nf-From: math.cornell.edu!harelb    Sep  7 11:54:00 1992


Subject: In GATT They Trust (II)
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator)


In GATT They Trust (II)


The following article was taken from the _Covert Action_ Spring 1992
[special issue dedicated to  Native people's rights/struggles]
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Terry Allen is co-editor of CAIB [CovertAction Information Bulletin] 
and a journalist who has worked in the U.S. and abroad. 
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For more information about CovertAction Information Bulletin and
subscription information, please see bottom or email Rich Winkel at
rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
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==================================== 
The Final Stage of the Uruguay Round 
==================================== 

George Bush understands, as have most of his predecessors, the utility 
of trade policies both to subdue domestic opposition  and to undermine 
foreign  resistance to  the presidential  will.   While  the Gulf  War 
established U.S.  military dominance in  Bush's New  World  Order, the 
economic  front is   problematic.   Domestic recession  coupled   with 
increasing   clout of  the European   and   Asian economic blocs, have 
challenged the abuility   of the U.S.  to  maintain   the advantage it 
institutionalized after World War II. 

Enter GATT, the General Agreement of Tariffs and Trade.  This complex 
and seemingly obscure set of trade negotiations has been seized by the 
Bush administration to put real economic teeth into its New World 
Order.  The current and 7th round, begun in Punta del Este, Uruguay in 
1986, and therefore known as the Uruguay Round, is struggling to reach 
a conclusion.  The final draft proposal, presented to negotiating 
governments by GATT director General Arthur Dunkel on December 20, 
1991, was over 500 tediously technical pages long.  Buried in the 
poderous language are a number of extemely far-reaching policy changes 
that would, if approved by Congress, dramatically distort the shape of 
democracy as we know it in the United States today.  If President Bush 
gets his way in these GATT talks, it will also profoundly affect -in 
ways that could rival the impact of Columbus' arrival-the lives of 
indigenous and other Third World peoples. 


		  =================================
		  [ . . . c o n t i n u e d . . . ]
		  =================================
From: ST202112@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Cars an their ill effects on the earth...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:38:20 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

Used tires can also be used in adapted furnaces to heat buildings on a small
scale.  The furnaces operate almost identically to the way stoves that brun
wood chips do.  As a fuel, used tires are tremendously economical, since
people will pay you to take them away--thus a negative fuel cost.  The only
real costs are operation, maintenance, and either labor or a conveyer system
to get the tire chips into the furnace.  Last I knew, someone in the
engineering dept. up at U. Maine was working with the idea.  It's not feasible
for big companies, but on a small scale it works pretty well.  Turns out if
you burn the chips at a hot enough temperature, the pollutants are pretty
minimal.  Something to think about.
                                   --Jake Gersen
                                     Center for Public Service
                                     Brown University
From: tsmith@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Townsend Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Cars an their ill effects on the earth...
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:36:31 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

lile@netcom.com (Lile Elam) writes:
> [....]
> So, does anyone know the awful things cars do to our environment?
> 
> I also found that tires can't be melted down and recycled because
> they turn toxic when burned. Just think how bad a *hot* day is
> in a traffic jam on 101 with all these tires emitting toxins...
> 

Tires are recycled, but not by burning.  They are frozen and shattered, 
then made into a variety of plastics.  I've seen floor mats (don't slip
in the rain type stuff) and a few other things made from used tires...
They look great, and work well... color choice is limited to black :)

Jack
-- 
tsmith@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
Computer Engineering and Computer Science at Virginia Tech
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth,talk.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Maquiladoras in America: Factory in Berkeley poisons labor
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:31:52

Harel Barzilai posts:

     Berkeley firm gets rich while poisoning workers. You can
     help by calling the company (510) 843-8910, and filling up
     their fax (510) 843-5906.
.
.
.

     For more info call Chris Clarke @ the ecology Center (510)
     548-2220

Yes, but what's the ecology Center's fax number?
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: draper@ais.org (Patrick Draper)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Cars an their ill effects on the earth...
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:11:27 GMT
Organization: UMCC

In article <BuBvwv.1Dz@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> tsmith@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Townsend Smith) writes:
>lile@netcom.com (Lile Elam) writes:
>> [....]
>> So, does anyone know the awful things cars do to our environment?
>> 
>> I also found that tires can't be melted down and recycled because
>> they turn toxic when burned. Just think how bad a *hot* day is
>> in a traffic jam on 101 with all these tires emitting toxins...
>> 
>
>Tires are recycled, but not by burning.  They are frozen and shattered, 
>then made into a variety of plastics.  I've seen floor mats (don't slip
>in the rain type stuff) and a few other things made from used tires...
>They look great, and work well... color choice is limited to black :)
>
>Jack
>-- 
>tsmith@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
>Computer Engineering and Computer Science at Virginia Tech

There's also at least two power plants that burn tires (27,000 a day) to
produce electricity.

They are cleaner than coal plants. Also, one of them is in California and
easily meets the air test standards.

There's a lot of resistance from environmentalists to these plants. The
primary objection is that they "reduce recycling." What's the big deal over
what purpose the tires are used for? And isn't finding a purpose for an
object that wouldn't be used again normally the very essence of recycling?
If anything, it increases recycling.


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Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth,alt.activism,talk.environment
From: rabani@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Ely Rabani)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth,ca.environment
Subject: Re: Keeping ants away
Date: 13 Sep 92 08:05:44 GMT
Followup-To: alt.save.the.earth
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <JYM.92Aug31093510@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>> Does anyone know of an effective, environmentally safe way to
>> keep ants from coming in your house?
>
>=o= If you're dealing with a typical Californian ant invasion,
>your task is going to be to find where they're getting in,
>stopping them there, finding their new path for getting in,
>stopping them there, and so on until they run out of ways to
>get in.
>
>a lot.  If, like me, you've got bowls of food and water sitting
>out for the cats, you'll just have to find all the ports of ant
>entry and put the pyrethrum flowers there . . .
>    <_Jym_>

The most effective remedy to the problem with cat dishes is to
get a plastic tray such as those used by fast food joints, and put about
a quarter inch of water in it and the dishes (food and water) on it.
If it's summer and the ants are out to find water, taint it with
vinegar.  Cats will invariably drop some food into the mote, so it has
to be changed every day or two, but its no hassle considering the 
alternatives.  Note that this also works for food left available
outside, which is otherwise much more of a problem.

Also, talcum powder is an effective deterent to ants in the woods, and
while I've only tried it once domestically in this application, I think
it was effective.  They won't walk over it.

Ely.

Newsgroups: alt.emusic
From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Subject: Need price on used Midiverb II
Organization: Fantasy, Incorporated: Reality None of Our Business.
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 02:46:30 GMT

A friend has offered me his used Alesis Midiverb II, and has asked $100.
Is it worth it? What is a decent used price? It's in very good condition.
If you don't know, but know where I might find out, a pointer would be
appreciated.

Thanks!

-- 
If you insist upon living in a  | cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu | Fubar Systems BBS
dream, you may be taken as mad. |                          | (805) 54-FUBAR
  I like my dream.              | Because all you of       | 3/12/24, MNP5, 8N1
Then you *are* mad!             | Earth are IDIOTS!!       | FSBBS 2/FSUUCP 1.3
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:11:46 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
Subject: top 10 hits

Hi All You Top 40 Music Fans Out There!!!
   *** Here Are Billboard's Top 10 Songs For The Week Ending 9/12/92 ***
                      U.S.A.
#1 End Of The Road-Boyz II Men
2. Baby Baby Baby-TLC
3. Humpin' Around-Bobby Brown
4. November Rain-Guns 'N Roses
5. Stay-Shakespear's Sister
6. Giving Him Something He Can Feel-En Vogue
7. Sometimes Love Ain't Enough-Patty Smyth
8. Just Another Day-Jon Secada
9. Jump Around-House Of Pain
10 Move This-Technotronic
--------------------------
And - Here Are Yours Truly's Top 10 This Week
1. End Of The Road-Boyz II Men
2. November Rain-Guns 'N Roses
3. This Used To Be My Playground-Madonna
4. The One-Elton John
5. Jesus He Knows Me-Genesis
6. Give It Up-Wilson Phillips
7. Just Another Day-Jon Secada
8. Baby Baby Baby-TLC
9. Even Better Than The Real Thing-U2
10 Stay-Shakespear's Sister
------------------------------
Send me your top 10 every week, and I will gladly compile them and post a
wordly e mail top 10 countdown.  I'm at rap115.psuvm.psu.edu.
------------------------------
Also, Do we have any Deborah Ann Gibson fans out there?!!!!!  I'm one of the
biggest fans in the world, have 41 pen pals from D.G.I.F., and I've got some
information you would all love to hear!!!!
                                          Peace 2 You, Robbie Po!!!!!
Lines: 16
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 92 20:42:29 MDT
From: mtt@alaska.et.byu.edu (Dave Stirling)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
Subject: Suzanne Ciani <- Discography, anyone?
Reply-To: mtt@alaska.caedm.byu.edu

Does anyone have a discography of Suzanne Ciani's works?  All the CD's
I've seen are dated 1989 thru 1991.  I assume there are others.  Also,
how is "Ciani" pronounced?  Any responses appreciated.  




--
Dave Stirling				 
email: mtt@alaska.caedm.byu.edu		...standard disclaimers apply...






Newsgroups: alt.emusic,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth
From: cowles@convex.com (John Cowles)
Subject: Re: Full use of SB and SB-Pro
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:43:46 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Sep14.222321.23863@crash> tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier) writes:
>In article <HJF.92Sep14004834@athena.inesc.pt> hjf@athena.inesc.pt (Henrique Jorge Fonseca) writes:
>>	I would like to know if there is any software out there that
>>makes FULL use of the SB and SB-Pro capabilities. I've seen software
>>that uses the FM voices (CMF players) and software that uses the DAC
>>chips (MOD players), but I have not seen any package that uses both
>>simultaneously...
>
>	Rennaisance has already created a format which does just that. It
>is known as the 670 format and is used in their Black Glass II demo. I 
>suggest you try and get ahold of it and check it out. (I think I can
>UUencode anybody a ZIP if they'd like.)
>
>tfinn@crash.cts.com
>

Please - Who or what is Rennaisance???

-- 
     John Cowles        cowles@hydra.convex.com
                        Convex Computer Corp.  214 497 4375
                        3000 Waterview Pkwy
                        Richardson, Tx. 75080
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Newsgroups: alt.emusic,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Full use of SB and SB-Pro
From: prevo@blot.ksc.nasa.gov (Joe Prevo)
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:22:42 EST
Reply-To: prevo@blot.ksc.nasa.gov (Joe Prevo)
Distribution: rec
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <HJF.92Sep14004834@athena.inesc.pt> hjf@athena.inesc.pt (Henrique Jorge Fonseca) writes:
>>>	I would like to know if there is any software out there that
>>>makes FULL use of the SB and SB-Pro capabilities. I've seen software
>>>that uses the FM voices (CMF players) and software that uses the DAC
>>>chips (MOD players), but I have not seen any package that uses both
>>>simultaneously...

Galactix is a great gaming example of using FM and DAC together. I pulled it
off the internet (don't remember the location). No source but a great game.

Newsgroups: alt.emusic,alt.exotic-music,alt.music.alternative,alt.music.enya,alt.music.filk,alt.music.karoke,alt.music.rush
From: jalapeno@leland.Stanford.EDU (J. Bradley Materick)
Subject: In search of U2 Zoo Station promo disc (Please Help!)
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 15:59:57 GMT

Hello All!

Forgive me if this post seems out of place, but I am posting this message to
many different newsgroups in hopes of a positive response.

I am looking fo a rare U2 single, a DJ/collectors white vinyl 12" single of
Zoo Station.  The single contains 3 songs:

			Zoo Station
			Lady with the Spinning Head
			Zoo Station (UV1 remix)

If you have this single, know someone who has it, or have seen the single
anywhere (I think it was released only in the U.K.), PLEASE respond to me
personally via e-mail (as I probably do not regularly read this newsgroup)
at the following address:

			jalapeno@leland.stanford.edu

ANY information on the whereabouts of this single, no matter how insignificant
it may seem, will be GREATLY appreciated.

Taanx in advance,
Jalapeno

-- 
J. Bradley Materick
jalapeno@leland.stanford.edu
P.O. Box 14707 Stanford CA, 94309
Newsgroups: alt.emusic,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,rec.music.synth
From: tfinn@crash.cts.com (Aaron Grier)
Subject: Re: Full use of SB and SB-Pro
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: rec
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:23:21 PDT

In article <HJF.92Sep14004834@athena.inesc.pt> hjf@athena.inesc.pt (Henrique Jorge Fonseca) writes:
>	I would like to know if there is any software out there that
>makes FULL use of the SB and SB-Pro capabilities. I've seen software
>that uses the FM voices (CMF players) and software that uses the DAC
>chips (MOD players), but I have not seen any package that uses both
>simultaneously...

	Rennaisance has already created a format which does just that. It
is known as the 670 format and is used in their Black Glass II demo. I 
suggest you try and get ahold of it and check it out. (I think I can
UUencode anybody a ZIP if they'd like.)

tfinn@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
Subject: Kawai K4 16 bit Synth for Sale
From: akappen@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:51:33 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

For Sale:
Kawai K4 16 bit Digital Synth
Big Brother of the K1II with more power and better sound.
Excellent entry-level professional model synth.
-Polyphonic/Multitimbral (16/8)
-Full Size Velocity Sensitive Keys with Aftertouch
-Includes Sustain Pedal
-Great Digital Drum Palette
-Excellent Patches
-Like New, Pristine Condition

List......    $1445.00
Asking....     $700.00

Buyer pays UPS COD shipping.

All offers accepted, possibly negotiable.

Andrew Kappen
akappen@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.emusic