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From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: look in your own backyad (was Re: YO HO!)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:02:59 GMT


tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (enhanced invisible life [Todd Sines]) writes:
>but where are the reinforced and movin shadow and jem and sub base record 
>labels in america?

thankfully absent!

>where is the american aphex twin? the grid? orbital? orb? etc....

they are all in san francisco and they will take the world by storm this
year.  trust me.

(somebody get this man a copy of the young american primitive EP and fast...)

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Looking for Moby FAQ
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:09:41 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

> Hi, I recall seeing a collection of Info on Moby somewhere here...
> Could someone please forward a copy to me?  Thanks.

Done.  It's also available via FTP from cs.uwp.edu in the discography
section.

> There is a good article on Moby in the current L.A. Weekly (tabloid-size).
> It says his name is Richard Melville Hall, and I always thought his middle
> initial stood for Moby, but I guess he's being funny by taking Moby from
> Herman Melville's _Moby_Dick_.  Can anyone confirm this?

Don't know.  He's had the nickname since he was little, so I doubt if he
chose it himself.  If anyone has the LA Weekly article, could you type it
in and send it to me?  Thanks.  I'll put it in the next version of the
Moby FAQ/Discography.
                                                            Mike Brown
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From: dom@sound.demon.co.uk (The Vex-Master)
Subject: Re: ALTERN8
Reply-To: dom@sound.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
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Organization: - VexFactor10 Productions - London, U.K.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:28:26 +0000

In article <5.1191.uupcb@satalink.com> jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) writes:
> Did A8 release a new album? I got their CD SINGLE titled INFILTR-8
> AMERICA and it has EP behind it, but at my local Underground record
> store I've been told they have a new full lenght album out. This CD
> SINLGE I have has 2 remixes of Evapor-8 and three other tunes ["Move My
> Body" fuckin rules!]

The album is called "Full On.. Mask Hysteria" but is not new by any stretch
of the imagination.

It has a slightly different track list depending on format but most have:

Move My Body, Infiltrate 202, E-Vapor-8, 8's Revenge, Frequency, Real Time
Status, First Of May, Hypnotic St-8, Activ-8, Brutal-8-E, A D-8 With Plezure,
Armageddon, Give It To Baby and Re-Indulge.

The CD version is Network 'TOP CD1' and I think there were various vinyl
versions including the new 'A8 PIC1' picture disk ! 

As far as I know Brutal-8-E (Brutality) is the last Altern8 track to be
released but the better side of Peat & Archer will have the new Nexus-21
album ready soon-ish.

> Btw is Moby's NExt is the E sold in UK? just wondering...
Erm... yes.

Watch yer bass bins !
:-Dom

(P.S. A big shout going out to u4ia... you still doing the MODs or what ?)
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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Look Daddy ! It's a??
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:41:37 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-11-93 18:36
Quoted From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
> 
> <obvious, blatent, and annoying flame deleted>
> 
> "You people kill me man (in superfly accent) , you kill me !"
> 
> Stephen Quigg
> squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
> British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
> (Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )
>

Hmmm... I don't think you understand where I'm coming from at all. 
Maybe I should start using more sideways faces to tell people that 
"hey, man, I'm trying to add some sarcasm to this message".  Please 
don't take me too seriously, I'm only in this to have some fun.
  In my original message, I mentioned that the 808state/UB40 video was 
cool, because they got chased by the police.  I guess you didn't 
understand that I was making fun of the current media stereotype 
that portrays raves as illegal and worthy of police interference.  Why 
bother thinking I'm serious, and why bother posting a public flame 
about it?  Who cares one way or the other?  Its the same as saying 
that raves are only cool if there are drugs there... and please don't 
take that one at face value, either.  
  Anyway, I've been to raves when the police have been strolling 
around -- they don't generally care, and they really don't make me 
enjoy it more anyway.

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From: jhawes@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Jaz the AMIGA man)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:00:44 GMT
Reply-To: jhawes@srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

From article , by akenning@zeus.calpoly.edu (AK):
> In article  ceej@shell.portal.com (Chris Johnson) writes:

>>>> with really fuckin great visual effect. This shit could be shown on TV
>>>> and no one would EVER guess it was done on a $500 computer and played
>>>> from a 880k. This looks like it is from a CD ROM! spectacular! it is

Watch the partyzone on MTV, you'll see real stuff produced with an Amiga.

>>>You know, we can do that on IBMs too.  We aren't all that musically 
>>>inept.

>>Show me an IBM setup costing $500 and I'll show you a bunch of beeps and 
>>crackles.  You must be joking, right?  Affordable hardware that can produce
>>awesome results has AMIGA written all over it.

> Ceej, you forgot the price of the monitor :). $500 only gets you an A500.

Oh, and who doesn't own a TV ?? Real fast effect can only be done on a TV,
a hi-res monitor cannot keep up !

Anyway doesn't this belong in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy ??
Besides what has an IBM done that's appeared on MTV.

If anyone's seen the video to POING! (better than the audio !) I could even
tell you what s/w was used to make it !!

Jaz

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From: geoffw@nexsys.net (Geoff White)
Subject: Re: ComeUniverse becoming private
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 05:11:47 GMT

> Status: RO
> 
> I suggested this to geoff but I haven't heard a reply, and that is, the
> comeuniverse alias should _not_ include any other mailing lists; since the
> list is geared towards the more spiritual bend of raves and dancing, it's
> very likely that a large number of people on the various rave mailing lists
> might not want to get comeuniverse mail.  I told him he should make a post
> or two asking for people to sign up, rather than include the whole world
> carte blanche.  I'm not trying to stifle his message or flame him or his ideas
> or anything, I just think he has to focus on what audience he wants.  Besides,
> I end up getting 5 copies of every comeuniverse message....
> 
> 	Brian
> 

Brian,
	You are confusing ComeUniverse, with TheVibe@nexsys.net which is the
	"spiritual" mailing list.  That has always been and still is by
request only.  ComeUniverse was a way that people could post any rave
related thing that they thought the whole world wide rave community
should know about.  I left it as a convenience so that people didn't
have to remember or CC every list in the world if they had something
importent to share.  I felt that people would "police
themselves" and not use it to chat or make non-rave related public
service announcements.  I must say that it was an interesting experiment
while it lasted. As I said before ComeUniverse started as a way that *I*
could make posts to everybody without having to remember each and every
list, to those of you who subscribe to all 5 list or whatever, I'm 
sorry you got 5 copies (you will get 5 copies of this as well :)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: RE: YO HO!
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:47:20 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-09-93 14:43
Quoted From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 
> 
> Yea but MOBY is more popular in Europe than here! only few months ago I
> discovered he was american! all this time I thought he was
> French...dunno why...
> 

Never looked at the labels on his CDs maybe? :)

> USA is BEHIND Europe in music... check this out: I walk into Sam Goody
> or Tower Records, ask the clerk: Where is the Techno section? , his
> answer: uhm, what is techno? is it like country music? I almost flipped
> when I heard that... people dont know anything about the underground
> music...I remember reading somewhere that techno/rave/trance music in UK
> is like RAP in the US. Look how hard was it for rap to get out of the
> underground! I hope techno breaks out and I would be more than happy to
> see techno commercialized...at least we would see it on MTV!
> 

Well you have to realize that this is just one person, who happens to 
work at a record store.  They aren't music-gods or anything (I worked 
at one a few years back when I was still into classic rock stuff, and 
that was all I knew about).  Anyway, as far as rap going mainstream? 
Think of how little time there has been between Grand Master Flash, 
and todays rap -- on the scale of musical evolution, this is one of 
the fastest surges of any musical style.  It didn't take long for the 
music to catch on, but once again, you had to be looking to find it.
  If techno gets commercialized I won't be too happy; I don't like the 
idea of having people suddenly jump on a style of music -- it saps out 
all the musical integrity it once had (ie. bandwaggoning and all). 
Think about Seattle and grunge, before you say that...

> BTW - WHO HIRED 'KENNEDY' TO BE A VJ FOR MTV?
>

The people who figured that the majority of their audience would like, 
and identify with this person (who I have never seen, so I cannot 
really comment on).

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From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:47:47 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-09-93 14:43
Quoted From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (the future is now.....)
> 
> <stuff about MODs, etc. went here> 
>
> Anyway, if there isn't already, there should be a guide to MODs and a
> MOD-FAQ>.. 
> 
> --
> 
>     ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu                FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
>     ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com                future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu
> 
>

Try a cross-post to sys.amiga.audio -- they should have some info for 
you there.

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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:32:14 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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In article <1993Jan11.233544.5326@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa) writes:
>Nothing that basic.  Remember, I am one of those skeptical East Coast kind
>of people.  I don't have the flyer anymore -- it's hanging on a wall in
>Sommerville, MA, but here's what I remember: it talked about opening your 
>heart and lifting the healing power of the rave beyond the location so it 
>could flood the earth and heal our planet.
>
>Okay, this makes some sort of sense -- if you are loving and nice to people
>at raves, then do it in all areas of you life, but the way it was written
>it talked about doing it on the night of the rave to create some kind of
>mystic energy envelope.  Maybe this really does work, but it just seemed too, 
>well, new-agey for me (being a skeptical East Coaster) to want to particpate 
>in.  And to be exhorted to do this by the people promoting the rave in advance
>of the rave -- this struck me as being a bit on the evangelical side.  Like,
>if I didn't do it I'd be missing the point of their event.  Again, this is the
>skeptical East Coaster in me talking.
>
>Laura

Oh, okay.  Every once in a while we get flyers like that out here - I think 
it's kinda cool, instead of promising carnival rides and brain machines they
promise a place where your dancing energies can be focused into a sort of
communal mind meld.  Now we all know that you should expect only about a third
of what a rave flyer promises; so if the rave promises to be a superterrestrial
mondo-luv-in, and it turns out to "just" be a place where people are very 
friendly and you can feel an undercurrent of vibe energy, then I say mission
accomplished.  I'd much rather go to a rave with those words on the flyer than
one saying "bring your turtleshells because we're gonna fuck shit up!"  :)

	Brian

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: root@demonseed.com (Root of ALL Evil)
Subject: Rave flyers...
Organization: Seed Development Corp.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 02:51:51 GMT

I know long time ago there was an FTP site that had some color scanned
pictures of some various rave flyers from around the country.. does anyone
know this address or anywhere else i can get some? thanks..
From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Look Daddy ! It's a Rave ! (was :YO HO!)
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:36:55 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


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In article <1993Jan08.201011.23180@rose.com>, greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
|> 
|> It's the same with MuchMusic ... if they played a constant stream of 
|> techno, they would lose most of their audience.  Speaking of which, I 
|> just saw the new 808 State video (with UB40), which was really 
|> excellent.  The tune is decidedly rave-inspired (you even have people 
|> getting chased from a location by the police).
|> 
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	My God! People being chased by the Police ! How cool can you go? Hey ,
now that the police are in on the scene , it must be WAY COOL .... Yes siree ,
this 'rave thang' must be right HIP and ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT (Capitals in effect)
for the Police to try and bust it.
HELL ! Let's all dial 911 ourselves , yeah right , we'll do something REAL BAD !
Yeah , then we'll be COOL , ROCKIN' , SKANKIN' waaaay far out .....

	Where are you coming from ? Back when I still went to the odd warehouse
bash , it was considered , quite rightly so , that it was just a teensy bit of a
bugger when 200 cops appeared , when there were only 100 people there ... if the
cops are at a 'rave' (boy , this word means a different world now) it's to
arrest someone who has just necked 3 E , a couple of tamazipan , and then
started fighting everyone in sight ..... sorry , I'm lying ... they're not raves
, they are funfairs ...

"You people kill me man (in superfly accent) , you kill me !"

Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
(Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )
From: donato@applix.com (Donato Miranda [ext 241])
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Breakbeat
Keywords: breakbeat
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:37:26 GMT
Organization: Applix, Inc., Westboro, MA


>it's interesting that you're looking for breakbeat comps when you dislike
>hardcore...
>
>yours,m


	breakbeat ~= hardcore  ??
	when did this happen?
  
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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: A&E Rave show Jan 10
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:09:42 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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In article <1993Jan11.112618.14962@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) writes:
>There was a pretty cool show on A&E (Arts and Entertainment) last night...

What a _great_ name for a channel, especially one with a segment on raves.  :)

	Brian

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From: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: USA is *way* behind Europe (Was: YO HO!)
Date: 9 Jan 93 13:09:44 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
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In article <XJAM.93Jan9024323@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU>, xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
> Also, on a more serious note, people need to realize that their's a bit of
> "importitis" going on. A film professor once noted "nobody ever bothers to
> import the crap". Expatriate to Europe if you will, and enjoy your Kylie
> Minogue while your at it.

Kylie is from Australia.  

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:02:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan11.182830.24528@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.221415.23331@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
>And then she handed out a very odd blue flyer that I think
>the crystal-rubbing faction would have enjoyed.  Is this typical of
>California?  Just curious.  We're a lot more "tight-minded" back East about
>such things.

What do you mean "crystal-rubbing faction would have enjoyed"?  Did it 
promise free E or something?  :)

	Brian

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From: tovey@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gadget)
Subject: music!!
Summary: plugging australian music
Keywords: music australia
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:51:29 GMT

I thought I'd just plug a couple of Australian techno bands while I was
on. (on what... :) ...

SNOG: Has to be the best techno group to have ever appeared out of Australia.
They are currently producing through Machinery (A German record company) so they
will hopefully be getting some overseas coverage. Their big single here was
Corporate Slave, and their album was called 'Lies Inc'. Their lyrics are very
much into the robotic and machine-like nature of society. I love it.

Itch-ee and Scratch-ee: Produced the EP 'Irritable', with great single Impact.
The EP is good, and Impact is not to be missed. It's unbelieveable. It
would probably need to have a heavier beat played on it to qualify in a club
but it's still fantastic. Label: Volition. I hope you can find this overseas.
I just blew up my speakers listening to this!

Just to lett you know how to compare my musical tastes ( blerrghh ), I like
Ministry (old and new), Shamen, Yello, Front Line Assembly's Tactical Neural
Implant, Tresor's Der Klang Der Familie, and The Orb's 'Little Fluffy
Clouds' (in particular).

Gadget
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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Drugs or !Drugs
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:09:29 GMT

In article <1iqbe5INN249@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> tripstr@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Todd Courtois) writes:
>
>>jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>>I suspect that perhaps a small fraction of the pacifier-sucking kids are
>>involved with drugs, and the rest just do it cause it's "cool."  Not that
>>I claim to understand the kids that think looking like a baby is way nifty
>>neato, but I think the actual drug-users in this group, if any, are few.
>
>Interesting point.  Is it really evil *not* to use drugs at a rave?  It
>seems to me there are plenty of alread-warped-enough people out there
>that everyone need not be Xing or frying at a rave to have fun.  Certainly
>drugs can act as a "social lubricant" to help lower people's inhibitions
>and make them see things in interesting ways, but isn't it really the
>*mixture* of a variety of interesting people on/off a variety of
>	interesting drugs that truly makes a rave unique?

I've found that if I'm going to plan on dancing for more than 4 hrs, I
have the most fun at raves consuming only shitloads of water, with
some gatorade/smart drinks/etc thrown in for good measure.  Also,
alcohol is the antithesis of a good rave experience, until 6 AM when
you are ready to start crashing and the bars open up again... then a
beer tastes really really good.

I've never felt out of place being sober at a rave.  
I've also never felt out of place intoxicated at a rave.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... drugs are everywhere, not
just at raves.  If you mind people hAvEing Xperiences, clubs should be
no less offensive to you than raves... even more so, since I would guess a
larger percentage of the club crowd is drugged up (alcohol, tobacco)
than the crowd at a typical rave.


-Howard



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From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (enhanced invisible life [Todd Sines])
Subject: Re: YO HO!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:36:41 GMT

well, you are right, look in your own back yard....

but where are the reinforced and movin shadow and jem and sub base record 
labels in america?

where is the american aphex twin? the grid? orbital? orb? etc....


AAAUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!!!



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