From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Government Coverups (Re: Moon Activities?)
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:01:20 GMT
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Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau) writes:
	If you think the public's viewpoint, or information released
	by Woodward and Bernstien was all there was to the Watergate
	scandle, you don't really understand the half of it.

	Even the most level-heads agree that Nixon was setup by the
	CIA to fall such that the "Bay of Pigs Thing" (Kennedy
	ASSINATION) wouldn't come out.

... and yet Nixon lived, and he lives still.  Surely the conspiracy
you posit could not have allowed that.  Simply engineering his fall
(with the help of all sorts of right-thinking people) would not shut
him up (as we have indeed seen -- the man never seems to want to write
his "last book".)  

   Surely the conspiracy you posit would not have allowed Jimmy Carter
and his man Stansfield Turner to gut the agency in 1976 (in which some
200 senior CIA people were removed, along with 600 lesser personell to
"streamline operations" -- this at a time when the entire agency,
world-wide, numbered 4,730.).

   Surely the conspiracy you posit would not allow journalists like
Seymour Hersh to run around breathing (Hersh blew the lid off the
CIA's domestic spying operations in 1974 -- such a thing would cut
very close to the bone of your conspiracy.  The story, by the way,
caused the hasty resignation of James Angleton, CIA chief of
counterintelligence -- Director Colby heard about publication ahead of
time, and convinced Angleton to resign "pre-emptively".  Why not just
kill the report?  Or the reporter?  But Hersh is not dead, and is
still writing books -- the latest, I believe, is the 1991 "The Samson
Option".)

	And the truth could lie much deeper. As far as that goes,
	there is reason to believe that Deep Throat WAS the CIA! 

... and there is reason to believe he was not (since no one but
Woodward and Bernstein and Bradley (and "Mr. Throat" :-) knows, my
guess is as good as yours.)  I'd like to hear your reasons, though.
Its easier for me to see DT as someone inside Nixon camp, rather than
CIA, but I'd be interested in hearing other points of view.

	So don't go telling ME about how they refused to have anything
	to do with the cover-up. Have you ever heard of G. Gordon
	Liddy?	

... sure have, I've even met the man (big deal, I got his autograph at
one of his self-serving lectures in the early 1980's.  Still got it
around here someplace...  someday I'm going to open up that copy of
"Flashman at the Charge", and wonder what in the *hell* Gordon Liddy's
autograph is doing there... :-)  But Liddy was FBI, not CIA.  (Next
time around, try E. Howard Hunt.)

   In any case, Liddy spent a number of years in jail, alive--
wouldn't your conspiracy theory have been better served if he had been
killed there?  If he was acting on the Agency's behalf, then he would
have been a very, very loose end indeed.  Killing Liddy in jail would
have been very easy to arrange...

	We're talking about THE AGENCY.

... yup, an although you may think of the Agency as a bunch of hooded
ghouls ohm-ing around a table, ruining your life, I do not.  One day,
we'll know who is right.

Charles

PS - Source: Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones' "The CIA and American Democracy",
Yale University Press, 1989.

PPS - I am not a fan of the CIA by any stretch of the imagination.
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