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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Bosnia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:26:55 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

You seem to have missed the news program I saw a night or so
ago, Yes, it is true that they are trying to get food in,
medical supplies in, however there are sanctions in place in
order to make a statement. 
  Listen, the way I feel is simply that we do not need to risk a
single American for a civil war in a European Country. (or
anywhere else--UNLESS they attack us first!) I do not care much
for the UN dictating to US what we can and can not do, if I
remember correctly that used to be up to Congerss and the
President (that is UNTIL Viet-Nam {yet another Civil War we had
no business sticking our nose into}).
   If you want to argue about strategies, no point in
continuing this thread. For one reason. I don't wan't any of my
fellow American's to risk their lives over there.
Leah

 

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From: Norman.Frederick@f32.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Norman Frederick)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: new world order
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 08:46:37 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/32

Dave Luce responded,
->> will have the Goverment that they want and deserve. We don't need to
->> interfere.
     
 DL> I disagree with that. It's like saying a dictatorship is what 
 DL> the people want. I think fear and other factors have to be 
 DL> looked at. We are not robots but feeling, caring Humans (you 
 DL> notice I used the word Human instead of people)
Debate the matter with Arnold Toynbee, he is the historian I was
paraphrasing. I, personally, gave up history when I discovered it had no
furure in it.

     

Fred
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From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: cable al to carry sci
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 06:56:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> That's really entirely different.  Sure, it's carried over the same
-> lines, but you have to have a separate box (remote) so that
-> would lead me to believe it's a different frequency carried
-> simulataneous with the TV signal.  I agree, their excuse is
-> 100% BS but I don't think DCR is the reason.

It still is frustrating that they  found a way to carry DCR (to make 
more money) but to add a few more channels FORGET IT. I wish Comcast 
could see how frustrated some of their customers are. Oh by the way 
since I have had Comcast, I have not had one day where the cable has not 
gone out.



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From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: new world order
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 08:21:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> Depends on your origins and preference.  However! I personally feel
-> that "Humour" is a hell of a lot more acceptable than "Potatoe"...

How about hashbrowns and french fries (Grin)



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From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: bosnia
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 18:58:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> For the second time, reread my message. I very clearly said limited
-> air strikes. No one is suggesting a house to house ground war or
-> involvement.

I'm not disagreeing with you John, I do have a question (food for 
thought) for you. How many civilians would be killed in a limited air 
strike? Also would that not make the civil war even worse? (Just asking)



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From: aumantb@eclipse.msfc.nasa.gov (Tim Aumann)
Subject: Re: Recycle old Magazines
Followup-To: hsv.general
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:42:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.160331.12120@infonode.ingr.com>,
ksr@h408h1.b20.ingr.com (Ken Robbins) wrote:
> 
> 
> Where can one take old magazines for recycling?

More than likely, you can't. What most people don't realize is that the
recycle market is a commodity market, driven strictly by supply and demand.
While the recycling programs such as the ones in Huntsville and Madison
County are great, they have tended to increase the supply of recyclable
materials available on the market. Demand, however, has not kept up. You
can't just take paper to any paper mill and have recycled - the mill must
have the necessary processing capability for recycled materials. And
depending on the type of paper being made only certain type of recycled
paper are acceptable. 

For these reasons, supply has far out paced demand in the recycle market.
Paper mills are able to pick and choose what types of recycled paper they
will accept, and they are opting for the higher quality papers, such as
white bond paper and computer paper, which they are able to buy at low
prices. Lower grades of paper, like magazines and phone books, are harder
to sell because of the low quality of the paper used in these materials or
the special chemicals on the paper itself (newsprint, by the way, tends to
be an exception to this rule).

So until demand can keep up with supply, and paper mills retool to accept
more recycled materials, you will have to throw those old magazines away.

--
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From: John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Bosnia
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 07:07:43 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

>It would mean alot less US/UN casualities than the house-to-house 

>fighting
>would be.
 
 
For the second time, reread my message. I very clearly said limited 
air strikes. No one is suggesting a house to house ground war or 
involvement.



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From: thomson@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Ramsey Thomson)
Subject: Re: Huntsville Dodge
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:53:12 GMT

I have had a positive experience using Huntsville Dodge. I had my
father's truck when it started backfiring as if it had skipped timing or
something. I took it to Huntsville Dodge and within a couple of hours
the mechanic had called to say that the number 8 plug wire had degraded
enough to cause this. He wanted to know if I wanted them to replace it
or if I wanted to replace it myself. I let them replace it and it's run
wonderfully ever since.

Maybe I was just lucky.
From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: new world order
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:52:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> Humm, I know, I know, Yes. I spell it POTATOE TOO! (GRIN)

What about potaters? (grin)



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From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Classic Rock Radio
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:44:33 GMT

  According to an article in last Thursdays DECATUR DAILY, the FCC has granted
licenses to Gene Newman, a Hartselle radio station owner, for two FM stations. 
106.1 will have a top 40 format excluding Heavy Metal and Rap.  92.5, WAZK, will
have a Classic Rock format.  106.1 is presently testing and should be online very
soon. 92.5, which will have about a 40 mile radius, will start broadcasting in
September.  Mr. Newman has owned WHRT in Hartselle since 1956 and has been trying
for some 15 years to get an FM license.
From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Comcast
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 06:53:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> can move the boring C-Span Channels up 2 notches to "test",
-> doesn't that mean they have 2 more channels available???

I like Cspan if Comcast would carry it in it's entirity but they can't 
seem to do that right. Let's get rid of one of the Home Shopping 
channels (get rid of both of them as far as I'm concerned)



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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Car Dealer Recommendation needed 
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 00:03:51 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

I recommend Word Ford in Fayetville.
Leah
 



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From: Rex.Beard@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Rex Beard)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: UN Treaty
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:43:35 CDT
Organization: Micro Magic

Your post on the UN Charters threat to the Constitution isn't quite
right.
 
You posted article VI.
 
it says that the Constitution, Laws persuant to it, and treaties
are the supreme law...
"anything in the Constitution or laws of any state to the contrary not 
withstanding."
 
You interpreted this to mean that all treaties superceded the U.S. 
Constitution...
This would looklike a *major* oversite on the authors part...
well, no.
 
It means that treaties supercede *State* Consitutions.
Not the Federal.
 
Of course, who knows how the courts would read it...
 
I'm too tired to look up anything about this phrase in the Federalist 
Papers. Perhaps someone else knows for certain how the phrase is read?
 
-------------
And to the rest of the discussion here. On Yugoslavia.
The *ONLY* party that doesn't think American kids should be sent to die
in the Balkans is the Libertarian Party.
 
Vote for them
-rex-



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From: Norman.Frederick@f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Norman Frederick)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Bosnia
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:20:51 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Hyder Ali says,
 HA> Why is this reluctance to do anything in Bosnia. Most of us 
 HA> agree that the world waited too long to left Hitler commit his 
 HA> atrocities. They swore to themselves not to let this happen 
 HA> again. Wake up!! Let us do something. 
Why are we the ones to do something? In every case in the last 40 years that
the Government of the United States has supported the in power regime of
another country, that regime has been shown to be corrupt, cruel and worse
than the ones we were trying to keep out.
We need to mind our own business and let the other people of the world try
to emulate the "few" successes we have had. If we put one American in Bosnia
and get him killed or injured, that is one to many!
Let's keep our little pea-picking hands taking care of our affairs, economy,
crime, drugs, abortion, etc. Sufficient unto us or the problems we have.





Norman Frederick

...   Solution = A more subtle problem.

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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: RE: New World Order
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 21:29:13 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Dear Wayne,
   When I saw your name on the header I was almost afraid to
read any further. It is amazing how we found one (very
important) topic on which we agree!
(grinning) Leah

 

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From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: huntsville dodge
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:41:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> I have had a positive experience using Huntsville Dodge. I had my
-> father's truck when it started backfiring as if it had skipped timing
-> or something. I took it to Huntsville Dodge and within a couple of
-> hours the mechanic had called to say that the number 8 plug wire had
-> degraded enough to cause this. He wanted to know if I wanted them to
-> replace it or if I wanted to replace it myself. I let them replace it
-> and it's run wonderfully ever since.
->
-> Maybe I was just lucky.

It seems to be the trend, for every 3 complaints you'll have one 
compliment no matter how good or bad the business is. Sounds strange how 
the trend goes, but that's it. I don't think you were lucky, I think you 
are one of the few that express a positive experience.



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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Gulf War
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 01:05:18 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

 
To:    John Blumer
Subject: Re: Bosnia
 
This is a thread which I am breaking down into smaller threads
so that I might be able to take it point by point without a massive 
quotaition...
 
 
> JB > The point was that we should not help out militarily
       unless it is a UN action, as was the Persian Gulf.
 
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Personally I think we dropped the ball seriously in the
gulf. The threat is still present and today we are considering
returning to finish a job which should have been taken care of
a year ago. We didn't finish it because we were afraid of being
viewed by the rest of the world as callous.
 
 
 
Leah
 
Cont...



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From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: new world order
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 19:06:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> Are you a Democrat?
-> That sounds like a Democrat question to me (grin)

I deserve that comment. In todays political race that could be taken as 
a compliment. (grin) I'll never tell..(I'm a liberated conservative)



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From: mason@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Mason)
Subject: Re: UN Treaty
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:37:54 GMT

Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:

>    Here is an example which illustrates my point. The US entered
> into treaty's with tribes of indians. Gave them land
> (reservations) and the Tribal Lands are not subject to the laws
> of the state, and are minimally(SP) subjected to the laws of the
> US. Those treaties superceed the US constitution.

Treaties are made between sovereign nations.  The treaties dealing
with aboriginal peoples are made with them qua nations, not qua U.S.
Citizens, though they are in fact both.  That certain laws are not
applicable to reservations comes from the unique situation that the
land is governed by a sovereign nation, while at the same time is part
of the U.S.  This does not mean, however, that the treaties supersede
the Constitution.

The Constitution defines the powers and responsibilities of the
Federal Government, and provides through the ninth and tenth
amendments that powers not specifically delegated to the Federal
Government are retained by the States and the people of the States.
So though the Federal Government has the power to enter into treaties,
it will not be able to honour those treaties if provisions contained
in them require that the Federal Government exercise powers which
it may not constitutionally exercise.  In other words, if a treaty
says "The U.S. will do X, Y, and Z," that doesn't give the U.S.
(the federal government) the authority to go and do X, Y, and Z unless
the Constitution has already given it that authority.

As for tribal lands not being subject to the laws of the state, this
is not absolutely the case.  Witness the recent Supreme Court ruling
which held that the use of peyote in the aboriginal religions violated
state proscribed drug laws.

-Jim

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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: new world order
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 23:20:27 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Watch out--I might take you up on that offer!
Leah 

 

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From: John.Blumer@p0.f16.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Bosnia
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 21:53:55 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/16.0 - The D.L.D. BBS, Huntsville AL

 >
> > I suggested that we do limited air strikes. The idea is
> > to knock
> > out the AA and artillery batteries that prevents relief
> > supplies.
> >
 >
 > LEAH Replies "Air Strikes on guerilla sniper action does
 > not sound feasible to me. The idea being that the gunmen

 
Are you suffering form M. Konor syndrome? I agree air strikes on
gurilla snipers is next to impossible, which why I said AA and 
artillary. These two items more than snipers are preventing the UN 
from flying in relief supplies.

 > are not in highly visible locations, are not in large groups,
 > and are more likely to have the ability to do damage on
 > a "Hit and Run basis" leaving no trace for our eagles to
 > strike.
 >             AND I STILL SAY...
 > LW> an air strike aren't we just as bad as the current warring
 > LW> parties (if not worse for butting our nose in where
 > it does
 > LW> not belong anyway)?
 >
 >
 > JB> I do not see it that way at all. Would you rather have
 > us stand
 > JB> back will innocent civilians are killed and starve?
  >

 >     Isn't that the idea behind Sanctions? Aren't we currently
 > starving
 > them anyway? I mean everyone knows that the whole world

Where did you get the idea the sanctions were trying to starve them 

out? That is the oppositte of what the UN is trying to do. They are 
doing their best to get food in, not keep it out. 

 > is dependent upon US for their food supply! and while you're
 > flying up there why don't you drop us some heavy artillery?
 > We could sure use some guns down here! We don't want to
 > kill people with them! __ NOT! So you are saying that in
 > addition to the already in-place sanctions we should also
 > do a few air strikes. And I insist that not only would we
 > be starving them, we would also be murdering them.
The idea of limited air strikes is to open the way for relief supplieas 
and to intimdte the Serbs. You seem to have an incorrect assumption 
of what the UN is trying to do, the idea is to get food in, not keep 
it out and to do so it may be necassary to remove the roadblocks 
that prevent delivery.



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From: Dave.Luce@p0.f7.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Dave Luce)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: cable al to carry sci
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:40:00 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/7.0 - The Trading Post, Huntsville AL

-> You should try Multivision out here in the Harvest area - it's even
-> worse than Comcast - I had both Comcast and CableAl when we
-> lived over in the northeast.  Guess it's time to call mu cable
-> co. and see what lame excuse they have for not carrying this
-> channel.  Thanks for the info.

Comcast's lame excuse is they don't have the channel capability. They 
had enough to add that pay radio garbage.



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From: tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer)
Subject: Re: New World Order
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:09:23 GMT

In article <5539.2A8A0D11@umagic.FIDONET.ORG> Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski) writes:
>Recommended Reading:
>A Pale White Horse by William Cooper.
> 
>The New WOrld Order by Pat Robertson.
> 
>The Rockefeller Files (I forget this Author). {Sheesh what line noise}
> 
>Any way why are you all so ready to go blow a Nation away? Please 
>EXPLAIN this to me!
>
>

	Now that communisim is no longer a big threat, the John Birch
	Society has decided that the New World Order is the next threat
	to the American Way of Life. The two primary proponents of this
	bug-a-boo are Ronald (Wake me when it's over) Regean and Monkey-
	Boy Quayle. I've been listening to brain dead wackos (700 club)
	talk about how terrible it is, but I have heard anybody except
	Monkey-Boy and Bonzo's buddy say anything nice about the idea.



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From: Rex.Beard@umagic.FIDONET.ORG (Rex Beard)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Andre Morrou
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 22:54:19 CDT
Organization: Micro Magic

 I just heard that the Libertarian Presidential Candidate, Andre Morrou, 
will be on the local radio talk show in a couple of weeks.
 
WVNN AM-770 from 2 to 4 pm.
 
I'll post more when I find out exactly what day it will be.
 
-rex-



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From: John.Blumer@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (John Blumer)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: bosnia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 06:18:30 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

>I'm not disagreeing with you John, I do have a question (food for 

>thought)
>for you. How many civilians would be killed in a limited air strike?
>also
>would that not make the civil war even worse? (Just asking)
 
Well hopefully few civilians would be hurt by a limited air strike, 
but it does remain a possibility. But how may would be hurt if we 
stood by and did nothing? 



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From: Leah.Wesolowski@p0.f2.n373.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Leah Wesolowski)
Newsgroups: hsv.general
Subject: Re: Bosnia
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:48:23 CDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:373/2.0 - Gateway, Huntsville AL

Gawd, do you hear yourself? "As soon as the U.N. Votes on it?" What 
is with that comment. Are you aware that our association with the 
UN in that manner is COMPLETELY UN CONSTITUTIONAL?  (Line noise problems 
tonight)
 Since when do Americans wait until the UN gives the "Go Ahead" before 

we make a decision?
 
 And while we are on the subject, why should American's die over 

someone's civil war anyway? What is our vested interest over there? 
If we do an air strike aren't we just as bad as the current warring 
parties (if not worse for butting our nose in where it does not belong 
anyway)?
 
Is it not this same Situation that started WW1? Why must history always 
repeat it's self?
 
Leah



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