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From: waanders@umich.edu (Nick Waanders)
Subject: Script speed questions
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 18:51:30 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard

I have a large stack of ~1000 cards.  I like to use the Marked card feature
to work with blocks of cards at a time.  To do this I want to be able to
*store* the current set of "marks", mark some different ones and do some
stuff, and then *restore* the original set of marks.  To do this, I wrote a
script to collect the card ids of all the marked cards and put them into a
hidden field.  The problem is that the scipt is much slower than I had
hoped.  It appears that building a container with 90 marks (ie 90 six digit
words) is the slow point.  I use the following script...

  put the number of marked cards into num
  repeat with i = 1 to num
    put "Storing mark"&&i&&"of"&&num
    put " "&word 3 of the short name of marked card i after marklist
  end repeat

The message box shows the progress with the "Storing mark 15 of 90"
message.  At first the progress is quite rapid, moving faster than I can
count (quarter second maybe), but by halfway each mark is taking about 1
second, and by the end of 90 marks, each mark takes about 3 seconds.  

Is this strictly a problem of putting the new number at the end of the
container?  I tried each of the following, and they did not help, and were
perhaps worse. 

    put word 3 of the short name of marked card i into word 1 marklist
    put word 3 of the short name of marked card i into item 1 marklist
    put word 3 of the short name of marked card i into line 1 marklist

Any suggestions to improve the speed?

Nick Waanders
Orthopaedic Research Labs
University of Michigan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Jamie Thingelstad <thingles@xerxes.cs.umn.edu>
Subject: HyperCard player
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:21:42 GMT

All the news about the HyperCard player bundled up with the Performa line
makes me wonder why this player has not appeared on any FTP sites? It
should be publicly available.

Also, will this player support the hopefully soon to be released
HyperCard 2.5?  I hope so.

Jamie Thingelstad
From: thingles@xerxes.cs.umn.edu (Jamie Thingelstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: please clarify this "player" business
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:47:46 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <BvIGF2.Drv@news.udel.edu> Bill Johnston, johnston@me.udel.edu
writes:
>No.  The $349 package licenses the developer to distribute the 
>HC Player with his/her stackware, and also enables the developer
>to create and distribute stand-alone "Stack-Apps" that have the
>player built in.

I have not previously heard of this capability of Stack-Apps. Has anyone
actually received the software to do this, or is it just talk?

>The "Development Kit" still sells for about $100 by mail-order.
>
>I suppose that that the "we've just got to live with this, folks"
>explanation would be that the Development Kit offers a better
>HyperCard than we used to have with more and better documentation.

Has anyone at all gotten ahold of the player or any of the new HyperCard
2.5 stuff? If not, when will it be available?

Jamie Thingelstad
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: How to display full-screen PICT?
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:26:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvnsFs.1Ds
Organization: University of Delaware

I'm stumped!  I would like to display a 640x480 PICT on a 
640x480 screen using the Picture XCMD.  Without adjusting the
window loc, the PICT is displayed with 0,0 at 0,40 in terms
of the screen coordinates such that a 40x640 strip at the 
bottom is chopped off.  That's what I expected.  

But if I move the window loc to correspond to 0,0 on the screen, 
the same 40x640 strip is cut off on the bottom.  Am I missing a
work-around, or is it impossible to display a full-screen image 
with HyperCard? (HC v.2.1, System 7.0.1, Tuner 1.1.1 ... ).

script excerpt:

    picture pictWindowName,file,none,false,8
    hide menubar
    set loc of window pictWindowName to "-16,-40"  -- (quick & dirty)
    set cursor to none
    set visible of window pictWindowName to true

Same thing happens when using a PICT resource.  I assume the 
truncation is done by the Picture XCMD, and by the time the 
window is moved the rest of the image is not loaded/available?

Suggestions?
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
From: tomj@u.cc.utah.edu (Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Avoid returning to "HOME" after Popping Cards
Summary: Use "Pop card into ..."
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:34:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: fcom.1992Oct6.163413.20227
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center

In article <92280.101400SLESCUR@auvm.american.edu> Steve Lescure <SLESCUR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> I have created a stack with about 175 cards. EAch card has a return button
>which simply returns the user to the previous card (I am using the push and
>pop functions).  If the user keeps hitting this button, he will eventually be
>returned to the Home card.  I would like to avoid sending them to the Home
>Card, since this creates problems for my stack.  Is there an easy way?
>
>
>Thanks.
>Steve Lescure
>American University
>

Try this...
  ...
  pop cd into temp
  if last word of temp <> last word of the long name of this stack then
     exit <handler_name>
  else
     go cd temp
  end if
  ...

Good Luck,

Tom Johnson   (tomj@iomega.com)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 09:27:12 CDT
From: Theodore Stresen-Reuter <U42075@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: CLARIS ANNOUNCES NEW HYPERCARD...

Hmmm.  Wouldn't it still be possible to write a stack, using the
developers kit, in which a user, with a run-time version, could click on
a button which would create a new button?

     Theodore Stresen-Reuter
     u42075@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
From: ag3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Adam C. Gross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: QTRecordMovie XCMD and VideoSpigot Question
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:56:31 GMT
Organization: Junior, Student Defined Major, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

QTRecordMovie is notoriously flakey, but it should atleast BEGIN to
work... what error message were you getting?

acg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Peter Purgathofer <purgi@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at>
Subject: Looking for Anthony Dunn...
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6ECAB1A2102B604@berlin.tuwien.ac.at>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Sep 92 12: 29:14 GMT
Organization: Institute for Assessment and Design of Technology
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:28:18 GMT

Anthony Dunn is Author of "Trinity and Beyond", two excellent hypercard
stacks documenting the history of nuclear testing. Since we want to use
those stacks as a base for some navigational studies, we need to reach
him or his (former?) employee, Merlin Software. I tried to reach Anthony
with the telephone number that is given in the stack, but it seems to be
wrong. 

So, Anthony, if you read this (or anybody who can give me his telephone
number, email address, fax number or even address), please email to me
(purg@iguwnext.tuwien.ac.at) or fax me (+43/1/504 11 88) or even write me
(see address below). I even would appreciate (if nothing else comes in)
if somebody could email me a link to Merlin Software.

Thanx in advance,

Peter
From: mcraig@phys.ksu.edu (Matt Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: UPcase function in Hypertalk
Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:25:45 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: piaget.phys.ksu.edu
Keywords: upcase, hypertalk

Hi, is there a way to convert a string - specifically the "long date"
into ALLCAPS?  We are using Hypercard 2.0...

Thanks,

Matt Craig
mcraig@phys.ksu.edu
--
mcraig@phys.ksu.edu
From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Subject: Re: Hypercard wannabe
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 05:10:38 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard

In article <1992Sep29.220440.1405@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>,
tdembinski@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu wrote:
> 
> 	I am a hypercard novice with absolutely no knowledge of other 
> computer languages.  I like hypercard, though, because I picked it up 
> one day and created something useful in a few hours.  Now that I've 
> gotten my feet wet, I would like to know where to look for more 
> information on hypercard.  Which books should I buy, where can I get 
> them, should I buy the Hypercard Developers Kit?  I would appreciate 
> feedback.
> 	On a more specific topic, the script that I wrote in a few 
> hours generates characters for various role playing games that I'm 
> involved with.  As it is presently set up, though, once I generate one 
> character I have to copy that character down by hand before I can 
> generate another.  Is there any way that I can export the data 
> generated to another application or file so that I don't have to 
> continually write them down or so that I can create a database of 
> characters that I can choose from.
> 	Anyway, I'd greatly appreciate the help.

Check out the commands:

open file <name>
write <variable> to file <name>
close file <name>

If you buy the development kit from Claris you get the help stacks which
are what I use solely for Hypertalk reference.  No books.  All of it on the
computer a button click away.

Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: gudmund@itek.norut.no (Gudmundur Joekulsson)
Subject: What is HHIT ??
Reply-To: gudmund@itek.norut.no (Gudmundur Joekulsson)
Organization: FORUT Information Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:01:43 GMT


Hello,
I am trying to find a way of reading and changing a dokument.
It is marked as a type HHIT and with creator CRSR.

I suppose this is some product of Hypercard or Supercard, but I
am not familiar with neither of these.  I only want to be able
to read and write to the dokument without using Word or something
similar, something that understands the format of the file.


Please help....



gudmundur

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gudmund@itek.norut.no
FORUT IT AS                     Forhaapningen 21-b, po.box 2806 Elverhoy
Norut gruppen			N-9001, TROMSO, NORWAY
From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: how to measure elapsed time accurately?
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:37:55 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

See my millisecond reaction timer XCMD on ftp.apple.com in
/pub/pugh/hyperstuff as timer.sit.hqx.

It measures the time from a screen refresh to a mouse or keyboard event. 
It has a discussion of the errors involved, especially the ADB delay.

Warning, this is a locked Shareware product.  It only works to 15
millisecond accuracy until you pay the $10 Shareware fee.  After you get
the code via email or phone, it will work to 1 ms accuracy.  Don't download
it if locked shareware offends you.

Jon
From: babb@sciences.sdsu.edu (jeff babb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Re: FileExists, FileIsOpen XCMD problems
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:03:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshub.1992Oct1.220325.9688
Distribution: usa
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences

In article <1992Sep25.125546.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz>, clas005@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
> 
> >> I've installed FileExists and FileIsOopen XCMDs in my stack
> >> using both ResCopy etc.
> 
> Why do you need FileExists at all? This functionality is now in 
> HyperCard: just test the Boolean "there is a file <filepath>" or 
> "there is a folder <folderpath>".
> 
Cause I'm using FileExists to test if a file is open, actually. Not just to
see if it exists.
By the way I just downloaded the latest Rinaldi X-Archive (ver 2.0, from
sumex), copied the FileExists and FileIsOpen resources to my stack, and I
STILL get "can't understand FileExists..." or "can't understand FileIsOpen.."
when I call it from a script, Rescopy does report that the copy was succesful
and FullResList confirms that both are indeed in the stack.
FURTHERMORE: when I do a fileIsOpen(foo) in the message box (with just my
stack open, Rinaldi ain't out there lurking in the shadows) IT WORX!! Why 
won't it execute from a handler????
Jeff
P.S. what News/UseNet readers for the mac are people using out there?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: gewong@mtholyoke.edu (G.e.R.m.a.I.N)
Subject: Question on bombs
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:21:37 GMT



Hi,

I've got an SE here that bombs mysteriously.  Once, I stuck a disk
in when I was in Word, and the system just crashed.  

Other times, it also gives a system error when trying to print...
This machines has 4 megs of RAM and is running under system 7.

Can anyone give me any suggestions as to what could be the possible
causes for mysterious bombs?

Thanks,  :)
germain.
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: What I'll do if Sys7.1 isn't free...
Date: 26 Sep 92 06:48:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley) writes:

>IF APPLE CHARGES FOR SYSTEM 7.1 I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL DO... (whine, moan)

>Maybe I'll write a lot of silly posts to Usenet about how I'll:

[Pointless ravings deleted]

Look you complete and utter BOZO!  It just won't work!  You'll never
actually get to talk to Sculley and they are just going throw your faxes in
the bin!  Geeze, the fanatics have just lost their grip on reality!

Take my advice and do you bit for the Macintosh.  If you ever get the
chance to meet Bill Gates, make sure he doesn't forget you!

Craig
--
Craig Richmond.  Computer Officer -  Dept of Economics (morning) 380 3860
  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
craig@ecel.uwa.edu.au                              Dvorak Keyboards RULE!
     "Only users are allowed to make messes on their computers"  I.M.VI
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Q: What are the Speedometer ratings of the various macs?
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:52:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Subject line says it all.
I have a MacPlus which I`m in the process of upgrading with a Brainstorm
accelerator.

I`d like to know where this accelerated Mac+ stands in relation to the
rest of the (old and new) Mac line of computer.

Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

--tony
From: yuanj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Free Copy: Sys 7.1 (from 7.0)
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:52:00 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

A friend of mine just got a free copy of the Sys 7.1 upgrade from a local
computer store (on 1 HD floppy disk, copied from the Mac in the store).  All
she showed to the store sales people were the original Sys 7.0 disks.


Is it available this way elsewhere?  It is not too bad.

Cheers?!  Yet?
From: igorl@uiuc.edu (Igor Livshits)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:10:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCnqA.8qK
Organization: NCSA
X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:10:49 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EDF849620114C6@spiff.ncsa.uiuc.edu>

Hello,

has anyone received their upgrade invitation for AutoDoubler 2.0 yet?  I
thouhgt it was supposed to be out by now...

Thanks, Igor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: ARA, do I need two copies to connect two Macs?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:35:46 GMT

The ARA software allows three installations from the same license...
From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Fujitsu 520 MB drive too warm for modular Macs?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:31:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: delfin.1992Sep29.163118.26867
Reply-To: mark@delfin.com
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale CA

I'm told that the Fujitsu 520 MB drives run warm. Has anyone used it
as the internal hard drive for a si, ci, or Quadra 700? If so,
is overheating a problem?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: artis@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (David A. Artis)
Subject: StyleWriter and System 6.0.7
Reply-To: artis@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (David A. Artis)
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:29:54 GMT

I just bought a StyleWriter for my SE/30, and I'm impressed with the print 
quality.  I'm an experienced mac user, but I'm new to using TrueType.  The 
StyleWriter driver that came with the printer is version 1.2.  Can I use the 
newer driver that comes with system 7 tuneup for faster printing?  I'm using 
system 6.0.7, Suitcase 2.1.1, TrueType init 1.0.  Also, if I understand the 
suitcase manual, I have to be sure all fonts of a given typeface (whether 
bitmap or TT) are in the same file.  Presently I have adobe screen fonts in 
one file, and all the TT stuff in another file.  If I get them merged 
together, will the mac then use bitmap for screen display and TT for 
printing?  I use New Century Schoolbook in size 10, and I don't like the on-
screen appearance of the TT font.  Any tips are appreciated.

David  Artis
artis@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu  -or-
david_artis@spacemail.jhuapl.edu
From: ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How to increase system heap?
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:43:39 GMT
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

How do you increase the system heap under system 7?

I think it should be done automatically but when I ask  
`about this Macintosh` it shows just a tiny bit of free
memory instead of the suggested 20 %. Something like
system:4.9 MB free heap 0.1 MB

Are there any tricks or programs that can solve this?

Etienne

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: CD-ROM, desktopfile on HD for speed?...
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 03:54:19 GMT

It's SpeedyCD by Shirtpocket, I believe.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron)
Subject: Re: Lets Just Steal 7.1!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:08:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.003934.34826@bmug.org> Steve_Costa@bmug.org writes:
>What if System Software cost less than $30 for the 10 disk set and
>manuals? And you could order from a 800 number?  I'm curious. What would
>you rather have? Computers that don't cost a arm and a leg or free
>System software? 
>
>
>Steve Costa
>BMUG
[signature & disclaimer deleted]

These questions are not equivalent. In particular, I haven't seen any
indication of cost at all beyond the vague article in the current
MacWeek, much less a promise from Apple that System 7.1 on 10 disks
plus the manuals will cost only $30.

As for what I would rather have, let's remember that Macintoshes have
fallen from greatly overpriced to mildly overpriced. System software
has risen from free to outrageously priced. System 7.0.x, shrink-wrapped,
cost $99. Will Apple offer an upgrade plan for those who bought the
package commercially, as every other software publisher does? 

It's unfortunate that a user group director forgets how many people
*have* paid an arm and a leg for their Macintoshes. Your last pair of
questions, Steve, is valid for a first-time buyer, but for no one else.

Bob
bobsoron@world.std.com
"With Velcro, gravity is obsolete" -- Mister Boffo
From: fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: "Why I hate System 7..."
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:52:23 GMT
    <sulkanen.717773444@xanth>
	<1992Sep29.160414.10085@ms.uky.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.) writes:
> Ever seen a beta of Maple running loose on a NeXT?? It happens in our
> NeXT lab a lot, and pre-emptive multi-tasking or not, that NeXT still
> slows down. IMHO, no matter the OS, when you run a bad program, you'll
> suffer, whether it be time hogging, memory hogging, or what. The Mac is
> no more succeptable here than ay other machine.

except that with mac os it is much harder to 'kill' a process - you
quit the normal way or you do command-option-esc and hope it doesn't
spew
with the NeXT you bring up process watcher and it dies
most preemptive multitasking systems let you do similar things
memory protection would be a nice feature also
From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 not free?
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:40:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <AekgF2G00Vp3AOBbtj@andrew.cmu.edu> fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat) writes:
>jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
>> If upgrades are not free, how much longer will it be before bug-fixes
>> cost money? "You have the erased-hard-disk problem? Sorry, sir, that
>> was fixed in upgrade 7.6, which will cost you $200".
>
>= microsoft windows 3.1

  Let's play devil's advocate.  At least Microsoft did not make a TSR to
fix Windows 3.0.  They made an installer, and integrated the fix into it.

Apple made this doofy thing called system 7 tuner.  At least integrate it
into the system file, people.

If there was a reason that this could not have been done, post it.  I
do not care about being flamed, but want to know why Apple did this tuner
thing rather than making 7.0.2 availible.

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