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From: rab@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Alan Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: tarring off a dos filesystem ---> uh oh
Keywords: huh?
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:50:27 GMT
Organization: School of Physics, University of Melbourne


Hmmm,
	Last week a similar thing happened to me. I had a tar file I had 
just copied onto the dos partition, and on tarring it off some ugly things
happened.

I untarred the archive on the dos partition, and copied some of the binary 
files into /usr/bin. (The file was the jumptable version of the contents of
usr.bin), I was just tinkering with the binaries and mv'd one (ispell) into
/usr/bin. On typing ispell, nothing happened and so a ctrl-C was in order...
nothing weird happening yet. Now, it seemed that with every subsequent 
keystroke, my disk/file system got more trashed. An ls in /usr/bin showed
no files (!) from /usr a ls bin showed *names* of files and some garbage 
thrown in. I fscked and rebooted, and the problem got worse, various 
binaries (dvips, latex, X, xterm) were broken. 

So I backed up my dos partition, and reinstalled completely... not actually
such a Bad Thing ;)   I wanted to croak some of the dos partition and free
up some disk space.....

No problems since, but I am wary of doing anything too taxing that
involves the dos filesystem.

my system:      386-40
		8M RAM
		Linux 0.97pl5
		gcc 2.2.2d
		X11v2.0

Thanks to all for Linux, we have a sort of 'plague' phenomenon in the physics
department now... we have a 486 running Linux in a fairly accessable place,
and after the initial jaw-drop, more than a few people have been seen
muttering things about  buying pc's and installing Linux.. passive publicity
of the best kind! I'd estimate we will have about a dozen or so Linux
installations in the department (Physics... not Comp Sci  ;)  ).


cheers
Alistair Scott (no I haven't tries to reproduce the corruption problem..
		life is too short.)

afs@tauon.ph.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@caesar.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Tape Drive (help please?)
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:13:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.120238.11321@cs.rug.nl> mod32@cs.rug.nl ( ) writes:
>In article <BvD7r2.KB1@acsu.buffalo.edu> leet@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian D. Leet) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Sep29.203422.26967@let.rug.nl> H.H. Bergman writes:
>>
>>>I think Wangtek makes basically the same drives with just a different
>>>interface option, either SCSI or QIC-02. If you wait a while, there *may*
>>>[Drew?] appear an SCSI driver for Linux.
>>

Tape drives should be implemented as character devices, since 
block devices can write out their data any time they geel like it.
However, under Linux, character devices do I/O directly to user 
space, and without some serious kludging, the current SCSI drivers
can't do that. So, I'm waiting for version 2 of the SCSI drivers. 

The Long Awaited version 2 of the SCSI drivers (Coming RSN, honest :) )
(They've been 90% complete since the beggining of summer, little things 
like being homeless for a month, Compiler Construction assignments that take
 our group 30-40 man hours to code, debug, document, and test, 
shoelace not booting Linux .97.5 or later on my system and gcc 2.2.2d 
w/jump tables not running on it, etc getting in the way) uses scatter / gather
so that SCSI command results can go directly to a non-contiguous address 
space, like what you have in user space, or with multiple buffers 
in buffer cache.  Tape drivers, as well as raw disk devices can be 
implemented cleanly using this method, so there will be an effort to 
support them. 


-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: NJ/SML
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:47:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <LILJEBER.92Sep30221336@klaava.Helsinki.FI> liljeber@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Liljeberg) writes:
>[ talk about splitting c.o.l deleted ]
>
>During the eight or nine months I've been following comp.os.linux
>(and alt.os.linux before that) the subject of splitting this newsgroup
>has cropped up and been forcibly squashed for at least half a dozen
>times. The way I see it, this reflects the opinion of the majority
>rather well.

[pro and cons of splitting newsgroup deleted]


>	Mika
>
>--
>Mika Liljeberg			Email:	liljeber@hydra.Helsinki.FI
>Helsinki University			Mika.Liljeberg@Helsinki.FI
>Dept. of Computer Science

Personally, I have no objection to keeping one Linux newsgroup. However, I
*do* have a problem when I get email (albeit polite email) requesting that I
limit my posts to Linux-specific topics.  If we have multiple newsgroups,
those folks won't be upset to see articles like this.  Granted, they should
be able to get trn or some such, but if they're not able to get it and set it
up, or are unfamiliar with it, or are getting c.o.l. from a feed that costs
them money, I can see them not wanting to see this stuff.

I appreciate what the Linux gurus have to say.  However, splitting newsgroups
for other systems/os's has been successful in the past, and I see no reason
why it should fail here.

Just my $0.02.

--Brian
__________
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
talley@acadia.kodak.com
From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: effects of-fomit-frame-pointer
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:33:41 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory

In article <1992Oct2.035231.19173@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>-fomit-frame-pointer may give fewer assembler codes, but bigger machine
>codes in certain circumstances.
>
>H.J.

	It sounds to me that it is not at all certain that -fomit-frame-pointer
is a good idea.  Have you tried benchmarking the code one way and then the
other? 

-Eric
-- 
Eric Youngdale
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: SBITCSC@KUBVX1.KUB.NL (P383 592188 Bosters)
Subject: syscall.h , how to port
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:26:24 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, The Netherlands
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22


Howdy linuxers,

I have a small problem while porting some software. Some of the modules want
to include <syscall.h> which doesn't seem to be in the include directory
of linux. 
Normally this wouldn't be a problem, as I know that I can replace the 
indirect syscall calls with a direct one, but ...
One of the modules refers to   syscall() with a number instead of a name,
can someone please give me an indication for what the number for the
functions are?


thanx,



Jeroen Bosters

SBITCSC@KUB.NL
From: osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: [Q]: BEST solution to Partitioning Large DOS Drive
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:56:17 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux: 30-Sep-92 [Q]: BEST solution to
Parti.. Rick Lippens@ccu.umanito (1286)

> I've been reading this group, the FAQ's on the site, and wherever
> else on Linux and am ready to install it on my hard disk.  I am
> familiar with DOS and UNIX, but not with partitions and boot sectors,etc.
> Is there an EASY to use program with a fairly comprehensible set of 
> instructions available?  I would like to do the following:

> Partition my 180MB Hard Disk into 80MB LINUX, and 100MB DOS.

> I understand that MKFS only allows for up to 55MB on a partition...
> does that mean I need to further partition my 80MB LINUX into smaller
> partitions?  

Almost: it means you should partition it into
three (or two if you really think you can do something with dos) 55MB 
partitions for Linux and the rest for DOS


> Rick

	Stefan

-----------------------------------------------------
-- On the average, people seem to be acting normal --
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From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: bootimage 98 boot video problems
Keywords: 98 video bootimage
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:24:54 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <perry.24.717954911@seq.uncwil.edu> perry@seq.uncwil.edu (Steve Perry) writes:
>Hi,
>  I have been using Linux since .12 and have had no problems with my 
>monitor until .98.  I went and got the bootimage-.98 from tsx, ftp'ed
>it to my PC (in bin mode), uncompressed it,  used rawrite to put it 
>on a floppy.  Now when I boot from the floppy it runs thur the "Loading..."
>line ok but as soon as it starts to print out the boot up stuff, the screen
>loses it.

Argghh ...  Nothing wrong with 0.98 (that part hasn't changed for a
while), but I compiled the bootimage with my monitor settings (ie
"SVGA_MODE = -DSVGA_MODE=1" in the main makefile).  This probably won't
work on a non-VGA setup, and even with VGA you get the hardcoded startup
mode, which is probably not what you want. 

The solution is probably to recompile the kernel with the SVGA_MODE
line uncommented, or to wait until I (or somebody else) can get a new
bootimage out the door.

		Linus
From: chchen@stat.fsu.edu (Ching-Hsiang Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Remove G++?
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:06:44 GMT
Reply-To: chchen@stat.fsu.edu
Organization: The Internet

Forgive me if this is a stupid question:

If I don't/will not write C++ prgram myself but just want to use GCC as a
tool to compile new softwares (X stuffs especially), can I remove the
G++ part of the GCC package? I found the 55 mb partition for Linux is
getting not enough recently.

Steve Chen     chchen@stat.fsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dmd2@ra.msstate.edu (David Dumas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: How do I get SLS 5/*.taz.Z onto a floppy?
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:56:40 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

I am installing Linux for the first time and have gotten through disk 4.
On disk 5 of the SLS distribution, there are files called something.taz.Z.
According to the FAQ and README, I am supposed to copy these to DOS formatted
floppies just like disks 3 and 4.  How can I do this since DOS will not allow
me to write a file with more than one '.' in the filename?  

When I uncompress the files, together they exceed the 1.2 Meg limit for 
a floppy.

Thanks,
David Dumas
dmd2@ra.msstate.edu
-- 
David Dumas
dmd2@Isis.MsState.Edu
From: bacchus@pollux (Shaheed Bacchus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: is RLL SOL?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:43:55 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia

In article <1992Oct1.120223.1109@aau.dk> psykseth@aau.dk writes:

>
>I have looked in the various INSTALL docs, and the FAQ (from July) and nary
>a peep about whether Linux can be installed on an RLL drive.
>There was a peep that MFM, ESDI and SCSI were possible, so perhaps by
>implcations RLL is out of the running.
>
>Anyway, I have this wonderful ST-238R which Linux 0.97.11 could not read
>(according to fdisk).  Am I doomed to live on floppies (or find a rich uncle)?


I have Linux installed on my RLL drive, the trick is the controller card,
the older RLL cards have their own BIOS on them and so you do not have to
define the drive in CMOS, you need to get an RLL card where you can disable
the BIOS and define the drive in CMOS, I have a ST-22R and it allows me
to do this.

-Shaheed Bacchus  bacchus@pollux.cs.uga.edu
From: rjha@castle.ed.ac.uk (R Hamilton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: atime/extfs
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:46:58 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Will the final version of the extended file system have atime/ctime
included. ?

I remember reading someone say that these arent really important
but in fact atime ("when was file xxx last read?")
is very useful, both for debugging (is X really reading that .xxxx file?)
and for file maintenance ,esp. on a small disk like most linuxers have.

eg ("What fonts are not being used ?") ...
	find xxx/fonts -atime +7 -print
tells you what fonts you havent accessed in a week
and can probably move offline to floppy.

The above ISNT a complaint!!!
Linux is the best thing thats ever happened to PC's
I've used Linux for a month and I'm still
amazed that I can have very nearly the same environment
on my little PC at home as the SUN I use at work
(and it's more fun to use!)
Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:12642 alt.os.linux:2663
From: bacchus@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Shaheed Bacchus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: HELP!
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:56:39 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Originator: bacchus@pollux

Hi,
	I've finally gotten Linux installed on my hard drive, I modifed the boot
disk so that it uses /dev/hda1 as the root partition and everything boots up
fine, almost.  The problem is I can't seem to access drive A (the very same
drive that I installed Linux from!), when I try to mount /dev/fd0 to a directory
it always gives me a "Device already mounted or directory busy" error message,
I have tried defining/undefining /dev/fd0 in /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab to no
effect.  This is really frustrating because now that I have Linux I can't
load any software for it.  Can someone please tell me how to access the floppy
disk?  Please reply via email, thanks.

-Shaheed Bacchus  bacchus@pollux.cs.uga.edu
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Who will handle publicity for Linux 1.0?
Date: 27 Sep 92 08:47:31 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

When Linux 1.0 is released, who is going to send out all the press
releases?  We can't just let Linux be available to the on-line
community.  We have to let everyone else know about it.  And besides
which, there are a lot of people who just don't read Usenet (no time,
too much flamage, too random, etc).

If no one else is going to do it, I'll volunteer...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
From: kooper@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Rob Kooper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X11 v2.0 and Trident 8900B
Summary: X works almost.
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:52:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Delft University of Technology

Hello,
I've got X11 v2.0 from tsx and it installed perfectly. After puzzling a
little I got the right parameters for my monitor, well it looks like it.

The first time I started X11 it complained about not having a 8900C so
I linked X386mono to X and started X again. The following things happen:
	- X11 starts ok but doesn't show me a menu when I click with the
	  right button on the canvas.
	- It doesn't show any applications, no Xterm or clock.
	- After quiting X11 the hard way, ctrl alt backspace, it shows all
	  stripes on all my tty's.

Is this because I didn't create any default files, like .xinitrx, if so
could someone send me his, or is this because of my Trident card.

Thanks, Rob
--
Robert-Jan Kooper                | We're living in an age when lemonade is 
    rob@is.twi.tudelft.nl        | made with artificial ingredients and 
    kooper@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl | furniture polish is made of real lemons!
                                 |             -Alfred E. Neuman (MAD #310)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: minyard@crchh453.bnr.ca (Corey Minyard)
Subject: The new xfree1.1 and xdm
Reply-To: minyard@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 19:13:32 GMT

I am trying to use xdm with the new xfree stuff.  It works ok if I
start it by hand from the console, but if I start it from inittab it will
not take keyboard input and if I start it from /etc/rc it dies after
starting things up.  I am sure I am missing some configuration someplace,
but I can't figure out what.  Also, if I start it from a dumb terminal,
it will not take input from the console keyboard (0.98 beeped, 0.98.1
doesn't do anything).  Using startx from the console works fine, though.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Corey Minyard
minyard@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: danw@panix.com (Dan Wold)
Subject: GCC installation questions
Summary: Newbie GCC installation questions
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:03:08 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: GCC install compiler

Greetings,
 
I've installed Linux 0.97.1 and mtools on my hard drive partition. Now I'm
trying to get the GCC from tsx-11's pub/linux/GCC installed and working. I
think a big part of my problem is that I'm trying to learn unix and
c-language at the same time.
 
I've gotten the following files and tar -xvf them in my root directory:
 	222d.TZ  GCC222D.TZ  INC41.TAZ  JUMP41.TAR  LIB41.TAR
	BINUTILS.TZ
 
When I unpacked the 222d.TZ it made:

usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.2.2d:
	
	total 1767
-rwxr-xr-x   1 bin      bin        754688 Sep  9 21:57 cc1
-rwxr-xr-x   1 bin      bin       1045504 Sep  9 22:00 cc1plus
(tar gave the message - this doesn't look like a far-file- after it unpacked
these two)
 
I used the find program to search the whole file system for
cc,CC,GCC,gcc,make and patch. Couldn't find any of them...

Unpacking GCC222D.TZ produced /gcc-2.2.2d with a README file which I found
to be confusing. Perhaps this is due only to my scanty knowledge of
c-language programming. At any rate I don't have the foggiest notion of what
to do next. It seems I might be missing 2.2.2misc.tar but I can't find that
in pub/linux/GCC on tsx-11.mit.edu.
 
At anyrate, installing Linux on my hd, finding the "joe" editor, installing
and using mtools, has all been gratifying and educational. Much thanks in
advance for any advice to help me get over this present "hump".

	From /gcc-2.2.2d/README :
 
	Step 1: If your host machine is not Linux, build and install gcc 2.2.2
	for your host machine. Otherwise, install gcc 2.2.2 for Linux.
					  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
			Where do I go from here?					
		
==============================================================================
Daniel Wold      			Sysop: "WORLD CITIZEN" BBS
239 City Island Avenue			212-885-2346 24 hours 2400 baud
City Island, Bronx, NY 10464		Internet: danw@panix.com
GEnie: Daniel.Wold			Fidonet: Daniel Wold @1:278/707
From: mmh@mercury.analog.com (Marc M. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Xega revisited (was: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:38:14 GMT
	<1992Sep28.181306.14705@cheshire.oxy.edu> <3732@eastman.UUCP>
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Analog Devices Inc, Norwood MA, USA

In article <3732@eastman.UUCP> talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes:
Path: analog.com!noc.near.net!hri.com!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!kodak!eastman!ashleigh!talley
   From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
   Keywords: UNIX
   Date: 29 Sep 92 11:44:39 GMT
   References: <bibhas.717685421@femto.engr.mun.ca> <3725@eastman.UUCP> <1992Sep28.181306.14705@cheshire.oxy.edu>
   Sender: usenet@eastman.UUCP
   Followup-To: comp.os.linux
   Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
   Lines: 52

   In article <1992Sep28.181306.14705@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller) writes:
   >>Propaganda?  Hell, yes!  Look at IBM!  Look at Microsoft!  They didn't get
   >>where they are by creating great software and selling it cheap! Of course,
   >>there's often a fine line between "Quality Marketing" and propaganda. :}
   >
   >Look at AT&T.

   Yeah, that's true, but at least they released a quality product.

   >But seriously, just as a benevolent comment, maybe this isn't the best
   >forum for this discussion...

   Agreed.  'Nuf said.

   >-Dave
   >-- 
   >David Giller, Box 134 | Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light
   >Occidental College    | bulb?  A: Three.  One to replace the bulb, and two to
   >1600 Campus Road      | fend off all the Californians trying to share the
   >Los Angeles, CA 90041 | experience. ---------------------------rafetmad@oxy.edu

   Ob-Linux-Q:

   First, kudos to Marc Hoffman for Xega.  It's pretty neat running X on my
   piddly little laptop!  Everything I've seen seems to work extremely well.

   Except...

   ...them damn fonts.  I know there was a posting a short while back on how
   to set the default font, and how to change the fonts for xterms (and other
   programs that allow different fonts), but I'm having no luck.

   I've set FontPath to include both the misc and 75dpi fonts. I've tried to
   start an xterm specifying -fn courR10 (maybe it was some other point size -
   I can't remember off the top of my head), but it says something like "can't
   find font courR10, using font fixed."  Of course, xset fp=/fontpath is a
   dandy way to define your fontpath for other implementations of X, but xset
   is not to be found on my system.  Do I have an early version (it says v1.1)
   or incomplete release of X?

   If I could just get this one little silly problem out of the way, I promise I
   won't ask *anyone* *anything* about Xega for at least a week!

   Please reply via email unless you feel lotsa other folks are having the same
   problem.

   Thanks,

   --Brian
   __________
   Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
   talley@acadia.kodak.com

I will post my config files i.e. the tree under /usr/lib/X11... 
--
-----------------------
marc.hoffman@analog.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jbuckner@lonestar.utsa.edu (James A. Buckner)
Subject: I'm new to this group
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:23:25 GMT

I am brand new to this group. A friend of mine told me about linux.

I am interested in obtaining linux for my PC at home.

I have a 386-33DX, 4 meg of RAM, a 106-meg hard drive, a Trident 8900
video card w/ 1 meg of VRAM.

I would kill for any good information about linux, such as where to
get it, how to set it up, and run it.

I plan to run cc and maybe a Pascal compiler.

Since I use unix here at school, I might as well have unix at home too.

Thank you.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Where's Linus
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:16:51 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Sep29.213232.7178@mcshh.Hanse.DE> umisef@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Bernd Meyer) writes:
>The subjext says it all - according to my newsreader Linus showed up
>last on the 23rd of September - a week ago.
>Is he off for holidays?
>Did Bill Gates hijack(?) him?
>
>What has happened....

Oh, I'm here all right, and I've read all of c.o.l, but I haven't had
much time/energy to do anything constructive.  Also, I'm happy to say
that most problems seem to be solved by others, and the rest of the
discussion has been the 386bsd-linux flamewar which I didn't bother to
respond to.  I've also read all the mail I've gotten, although I've kept
replies to a minimum. 

It also seems a lot of the linux-discussion has moved over to strictly
user-level problems (and I couldn't be happier), and/or kernel problems
I can't do much about (msdos fs problems etc).  That is likely to change
again now that 0.98 is out (already one report that the hd.c changes
result in apparently harmless "unexpected hd interrupt" messages on one
machine).  Oh, well. 

		Linus
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