From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Re: top 10 national teams
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:46:49 GMT

louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen) writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.175844.18812@ugle.unit.no> dagn@colargol.edb.tih.no (dagn) writes:
>>Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) wrote:
>>: I do. And I really don't care about Denmark. They get a lot of attention these
>>: days, just because they're European Champions BY LUCK! They surely weren't
>>: the best playing team in Sweden, but... Goals decide matches. What was the
>>: best team then in Sweden? That was - unbiased!!! - Holland.
>>
>>Unbiased????? You must be joking.......
>>
>>: To complete the posting with some current 'number 1 team' results:
>>: 0-0 against some pretty good countries, like Lithuania, and that other ex-
>>: soviet countrie. Congratulations!
>>
>>Well then, let's take some of YOUR 'number 1 team' results :
>>Norway-Holland 2-1 
>>Holland-Poland 2-2
>>
>>Now, then, you must be real proud of your 'champions'...........

>>
>>: Ole, ole ole ole ole, we are the champions, we are the champions!
>>: -- 
>>
>>Come on, pal, wake up, will ya ??
>>I agree that the Dutch team was very good some years ago, and maybe will
>>be again, but right now they're not world class, admit it.
>>

>As a dutchman I feel the right to react. I think in Sweden Holland played
>well. Not magic, but compared to the other teams they were quite good. Bu I
>think there is something wrong between the ears of the dutch players. What I
>say now may sound arrogant but I think Holland is the country with the most
>talented players at this moment. Unfortunately this is only one aspect of
>the game and the other aspects of football are not so well understood by the
>players. That's why they deservedly lost of Norway although in my opinion it
>is not a world class team. The match against Poland was another example of
>a very unprofessional played game. Van Basten is able to score in the Italian
>league but iin the dutch team he fails. Those who have seen the game will agree
>that 5-2 or even more would have been a normal score.
>  Next wednesday Holland has to play Turkey and I fear this game. Normaly, 
>Holland should win this game by 3 or 4 goals difference. If Holland doesn't win
>they have to win all the remaining games which won't be easy. Gullit will
>play next wednesday and although he  played terrible against PSV he is player
>who has more guts than van Basten. But if they won't win it's all over and
>I expect Norway and Poland to go to the WC in the USA.

>Louis Kossen


A reaction from me again:

Holland has some very good players, but what makes them the best national
team in my opinion is the tactics they play. Always attacking style.
Then, Dutch players have brilliant technique, like Marco van Basten and
Dennis Bergkamp. You don't see that in countries like Norway (to mention one, 
I could have mentiones Germany).

The game wednesday in Turkey: I really am optimistic. I also believe we'll go
to the States in '94. Mentally Holland will be 'sharp' (as we say here) in  
Turkey, because they MUST perform well. History tells us, that Holland always
performs best when they're under pressure (remember Greece in Rotterdam, two
years ago?)

We'll make it (with nice looking soccer).

Greetings!




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