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Subject: XT MFM HD controller info?
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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From: cario h lam <clam@CUP.PORTAL.COM>
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My first question is, are sockets supported in MINIX ?  My next question is
, can a driver be written for a networking card under MINIX and then have the
two cards be connected and operate as a LAN ?
     
Thanks in advance
     
-clam
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Subject: XT MFM HD controller info?
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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From: hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer)
Subject: Re: Help, I can ONLY EVER create directories when logged in as root, why?
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:05:38 GMT

jac@unlisys.in-berlin.de (Joerg Conradt) writes:

>elrond@frmug.fr.mugnet.org (Bertrand Petit) writes:

>>In article <10sis-c@massey.ac.nz> G.Moretti@massey.ac.nz writes:
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I have a very peculiar problem with Minix 1.3.  Using a boot disk that
                                             ^^^
>>>I've created, I can only create directories when logged in as root.
>>>

>>	Check the owner of your mkdir, it must be root so the u+s chmod can
>>act as if you were logged as root.

>This is on good, 'cause then any user will be allowed to create any directory
>at any place! My /usr/bin/mkdir is NOT setuid-root and works well.

Note that the poster was using Minix 1.3. The mkdir system call was not
in Version 7 Unix and therefore not in Minix 1.1. A directory had to be
created with mknod and link calls (to create . and ..), which had to be
done by root. I don't know when mkdir was added to Minix, but I think
it was after 1.3 (the 1.5 mkdir program  still has a gratuituous access
call in it to check the permissions for the real user id).
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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From: meggin@epas.utoronto.ca (David Megginson)
Subject: INFO-MINIX list still available?
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:39:20
Originator: meggin@epas.utoronto.ca

In a little over a week, I will be moving to a new job, where the only
accounts available are BITNET accounts.  I want to stay in touch with
this newsgroup, at least as long as I stay with ST Minix.  Does the
old INFO-MINIX list still exist, and if so, how can I subscribe?

BTW, my new address will be DMEGGINS@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA effective
August 1, for anyone corresponding with me.  My old address should
forward for a few months, at least.


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From: Bill Pechter <pechter@OCPT.CCUR.COM>
Subject: Re: OS compare (Unix/clone)
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In article <1992Jul29.172406.29587@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
 torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:
>
>Having several different code/date-segments doesn't lend itself very
>well to high-level languages (it doesn't even work too well in assembly,
>but there the programmer often knows what he/she is doing).  Thus
>coherent 3.2 and minix don't even try: they keep to one segment, and
>limit all data to 64kB.  You can do a lot in 64kB, but I'd rather miss
>the experience.
>
     
I hate to say it - but back in the old PDP11 days they had overlays.
And learned to like them.
     
And we walked 50 miles to school, uphill, and we didn't have shoes then...
8-)
     
There is some satisfaction in shoehorning the most functionality in to
the smallest space.  The amazing fact that a PDP11 could multitask
with the same 64k of memory that ran CP/M was amazing to me.
     
I grew up with PDP11's and love the fact that RT11 can run foreground
and background tasks (up to 15 background tasks) in a machine with only
64kb of real memory is a fact that some people that haven't had to live
with those restrictions don't understand.
     
Unfortunately, you can't run X in that space, or NFS... Perhaps TCP/IP
though...
     
Bill
     
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From: gryphon@crchh424.BNR.CA (Joe Widows)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Microkernel discussion
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:54:32 GMT
Reply-To: gryphon@bnrrch43.bnr.rich
Organization: BNR

I have been following the discussion on Micro Kernel avidly. And I wanted
to put out a suggestion related to the idea of 'loadable' drivers.

The BIG DMS switches that we sell, use a language called PROTEL ( thats
BNR lingo for 'STRANGE PASCAL/ADA/PROTEL') but among its many stange parts
it allows 'GATING'  

It works this way:

A generic process ( scheduler for instance) has an array of pointers to code.
It also has a mechanism for loading a pointer into this array dynamically.
(Yes, I am not telling you how we did this, just what we do) Our switches
can be running call processing and drivers can be changed on the fly.

I realize that we would have to create the mechanism, but gating the process
to application defined code would solve some of this.  Yes, it means the 
kernel/driver set could modify itself.  That is the point of GATING.

example:
        /* this is in 'ALGOL' to specify the actions */
        /* an external procedure that updates the process table is called */
        
        /* a global structure is defined for drivers  ( selection and priority
        as well as the new pointer)   the offsets are defined globally */
        
        /* a structure for the data */
                                                       
        EXTERNAL ADDRESS ARRAY proc_values[*,*];
        EXTERNAL PROCEDURE system_values RETURNS BOOLEAN;               
                              
                                                       
                                       
        PROCEDURE handler_code( what ) RETURNS BOOLEAN;
                ADDRESS what
        BEGIN
             %  realtime handler code here
        END
        
        
        proc_values[handler_definition, class] := HANDLER_KIND;
        proc_values[handler_definition, priority] := HANDLER_PRIORITY;
        proc_values[handler_definition, interrupt_class] := DMA;
        proc_values[handler_definition, entry_point] := address(handler_code);
        
        IF system_values() = FALSE
        THEN DO
              ERROR( ' system_values_update FAILED ' );
              RETURN;
             END
       END
       
 So, the upshot is that 'system_values' knows the offsets for the SCHEDULER
 but no-one else does.  
 
 This is a cut and paste activity.
 
    Just a suggestion
    
              Widows
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Can someone please help me with details of an XT MFM hard disk controller?
I have the port addresses and (I think) the commands and error codes, but
I'm after a little more programming info. I've also got one reference, the
Minix XT driver code, but it's not very well documented.
     
So, anyone know anything about these beasts?
     
BTW: I know the hardware is obselete, but I gain 120 meg for "free" if I
can write a driver for it for Linux, and what's more, the card coexists
quite happily with my IDE and SCSI drives!
     
Pat -- Have a day!
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