HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Call me Stupid...
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:48:08 GMT

In article <Bzpz5t.4vt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Chuck Stringer) writes:
>vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson) writes:
>| In rec.motorcycles, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>| 
>|    ... tale of self-induced misery deleted  ...
>| 
>| 
>|   OK, now *that's stupid*.  Get your ass (and anything physically
>|   connected to it) into some protective gear.
>
>Is there an alternative to Aerostitch pants for us poor folks? Leather's a

your skin.

>bit too warm for summer around here.

i went down hard in very hot weather in full leathers without a
scratch. of course you can have some comfort now but (possibly)
later you will be on hurting puppy

laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter)
Subject: Big Wives and Tire Info Numbers (was Goldwings are interesting)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:35:50 GMT

wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>I still like old Hog's though, but the wife says only one bike at
>a time and I sure don't want to sell my wing (she's bigger than me, the wife
>that is ;-) 

That brings up a question I've been wondering, being one who also tends
toward ladies of the "softail" variety. ;)

I see these stickers on the frames of like, "max capacity, X lbs", where
X seems to be something between 350 and 400. In others' experience, is
this number a hard-and-fast kind of thing? If I wind up with a lady in
the supersize range, should I despair of ever taking her riding? Are there
any mods that can be done to crank up X?

-- 
Avery Ray Colter ("Elfcat") - 	avery@netcom.netcom.com  (IP 192.100.81.100)
(510) 656-1902                  '92 Honda Nighthawk 250, DoD #44444, AMA 656940
"Those who know don't talk; those who talk don't know" - TTC 56, Onngh Yanngh
From: vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:53:37 GMT
Subject: Re: *BAD* Bike Purchase Attempt Experience in California!
Organization: Dances with Hawks
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

> Those of you not in the U.S. may not understand all the cliches
> and references herein -- suffice it to say that American auto
> and moto dealers have a very slimy way ...

   ... tale of puss oozing sales cretin deleted ...

> I'm going to go look at the Hawk GT again. Enough people love it
> that maybe it's not so bad *riding* it as it is just sitting on
> it with feet on the floor. Time to put it up on center stand and
> give that a try.

  Yeah!  Good move, I doubt you'll regret it.  The Hawk is about as
  sweet as they come for the $$s (tho, I'd take a Duc 900 SS if you're
  buying :-)

  I bashed my sensitives the first time I sat on the thing.  Made an
  impression on my mind as well as my anatomy.  I haven't done it again.
  This includes some high adrenalin, rear lifting, hot Metzler stops
  to avoid the local hoofed beasts.

  Cheers,
  Victor "Dances with Roadkill" Johnson
  -------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: The vertical 1/4 mile
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 20:38:36 GMT

In article <1h59orINNojo@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
>In article <10584@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)  
>writes:
>> Matthew J. Harper (matth@progress.COM) wrote:
>> :   Interesting followup to this;   A Corvette ZR-1 has a shorter time from 
>> : 0-150 mph than an F-15 (that's the jet fighter, son.)  After that it`s  
>pretty
>> : much in favor of the jet. :-)
>
>Interesting . . .
>
>R&T raced (for fun) a P-51 Mustang against a ZR-1 a few years back.
>
>In their words :
>
>"We figured the smart money was on the Vette up until 100mph or so
>where the plane should take over. The smart money was wrong ...the Mustang
>passed the Vette before it was even out of first gear as if it was
>tied to a post."
>
>So you're saying an F15 is slower to 150 than a ZR-1, even though a 40 year
>old piston aircraft can make it look silly just doing 0-40 ? 

The jet engines in something like the F15 don't *REALLY* begin to develop
thrust until there is a substantial amount of air being rammed into the
air intakes (at what speed, I have no idea), the P-51 probably could develop
close to maximum thrust (pull?) at close to zero speed.

As an interesting note on the P-51, operating guidance said that every time
you used full throttle in a flight, you replaced the engine when you landed.
It was supercharged and tuned to get the maximum possible power for this
fight 'right now', and let the ground crew worry about the work later ...
Someone I talked to that was flying a P-51 around the small air show circuit
said that he held to 40% power to get reasonable life out of an engine.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff

            {  P-51 engine being installed into the R-69S soon!  }
From: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: chain prematurely worn out?
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 11:43:30 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/20 - SeaHunt BBS, San Francisco CA

Hello Mike!

Thursday December 31 1992 21:16, Mike Sixsmith wrote to All:

MS-> I don't know whether the scott-oilers, or something similar, are
MS-> available in the U.S, but they are about 40 pounds here. Not cheap,

    Not light, either.... ;-)

                                          - Michael -


--  
Michael Nelson
UUCP: amdahl.com!kennel!125!20!Michael.Nelson
INTERNET: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG
"The views expressed above are those of Michael Nelson only."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: *BAD* Bike Purchase Attempt Experience in California!
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 13:14:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.013456.14835@netcom.com> thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) writes:
>928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss) writes:
>
>>FYI, I think the Seca is a great-looking bike.
>
>Girlf has one.  It is quite steatopygious, this may
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>unconsciously repel some male bikers...


Awright, enuf!   my Webster's abridged doesn't even come close to having 
this one.  If you don't want to consciously repel *ALL* bikers, you'd
better explain ...

>-- 
>
>Lance Norskog
>thinman@netcom.com
>Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: buzz@wccf.mit.edu (Sheila Gay Buzzee)
Subject: Bell PROSTAR Helmet, size small
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  helmet
Organization: MIT - Whitaker College
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:14:00 GMT

FOR SALE:  Bell ProStar helmet, worn only once
           Manufactured in 1984, still in the box
           Paid $130, will take $65
           Size small
           Red, black, and white

  I bought the helmet because I liked the looks and it is a good helmet, but 
after I wore it once I realized it was too small.  It's been sitting in the 
closet for two years.  First $65 takes it.  It's really a nice helmet, it is 
just too small for me.

  Buzz@wccf.mit.edu
  617-253-8096

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
From: cass8806@elan.rowan.edu (Kyle Cassidy)
Subject: Re: Santa's bringing me an XLH!!
Summary: April is paying me back with interest!
Keywords: Harley, XLH, yippee
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:23:32 GMT

In article <viking.724922994@vincent2.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>
>5) April, my girlfriend, deserves a wonderful, thoughtful, touching,
>warm, and above all inexpensive gift.  Any ideas?  She's already getting
>the first ride of spring.  Somehow what she's given me just makes anything
>I've thought of pale in comparison.
>
send her picture to easyriders. just imagine the joy on her face.

;-)

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,dc.forsale
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: EX500 For Sale
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:31:51 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1haf1iINNr66@mirror.digex.com>, wbrown@access.digex.com (William Brown) writes:
|>           ******FORSALE******

|>   $2500/OBO - Must sell NOW - Divorce proceedings.
|> 
|> Respond to this account <wbrown@access.digex.com>
|> 

now that's a switch.  usually it's "must sell now, getting married".

axel
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Chuck Stringer)
Subject: Re: Call me Stupid...
Organization: Indiana University, University Computing Services
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:35:31 GMT

bade@wombat.austin.ibm.com writes:

| Lets see, you live in Indiana, I live in Texas and wore leather throughout
| the summer until I got the Aerostich suit.  As for leather being 
| less expensive than an Aero I suggest you look again.   Assume the 
| aero now goes for $650 ( I think it is a bit less but for arguments
| sake), compare to a jacket ($250-$350 for any kind of partially good
| quality  so lets call it 300) , pants (about $200 gets you a pretty
| decent pair of pants mail order (these are pants not chaps), add in
| a good rain suit since the aero is comfortable in rain less than
| hurricane strength (Note the word good, not one of these $20 cheapies
| which will not protect your nice leather), about $60 mail order
| and you are to $560.

I agree about the price comparison, but I just bought a new jacket a
few weeks ago, so there wouldn't be much savings for me. Anyway, I
can wear the jacket other places so I don't have to buy a new winter
coat. What I'm concerned about is my tush. Leather pants, aren't out of the
question, but I'm curious about alternatives. Aerostich is way beyond
my budget. I've heard all the raves about the hand-made quality and
and flashy styling and that's fine but what I need is something
utilitarian. Marsee was suggested and I'm going to check them out, are
there any other similar products on the market?


Chuck Stringer                   'If it can't be learned from TV, it isn't
1967 BSA Spitfire                       worth knowing'  -Calvin
Email- cstringe@ucs.indiana.edu.



Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:42409 rec.autos:30275
From: oldera@twg.com (Ed Alcoff -  Prod Mtg)
Subject: Cobra Link Chains- Worthwhile?
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:37:30 GMT

As I don't have the good fortune of having my own
garage, I use a Cobra Link chain (6', 1" dia., $140)
to secure my new scoot to a concrete post.

I also have a "locked" cover and a fork lock. Now,
the bike I own is in great demand by the unwashed
and unscrupulous, so is it secure?  How good are the
Cobra links?

BTW, a friend of mine has always secured his 900 Ninja
with a Cobra and thieves have made at least 3 un-
successful attempts (that I know of) over the last
several years, so for him, it's worked out OK.

Is it also worthwhile to haul these 20lbs of chain
in the saddlebag on a trip, or will a Kryptonite bar
be enough?

Signed,

Paranoid.

P.S. - my present ins. co. won't ensure my H-D for
theft unless I have my own garage.  Change insurers
and fork out the bucks?

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: CA bike inspection
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:19:00 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <JET.92Dec30145609@boxer.nas.nasa.gov>, jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
|> "essbaum" == Alexander Essbaum <essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
|> 
|> essbaum> involves?  i'm wondering whether my bike (very non-stock FZR
|> essbaum> with louder-than-stock pipe) would be ok if i moved to CA.
|> 

many thanks to all those who responded about this.  what i learned:

1) they always check the VIN on the bike
2) they sometimes check lights and horn
3) unlikely (very?) that i will have to start the bike for them
4) no emissions restrictions
5) bike may have to have >7500 miles on it (but they might not check)


axel
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@grebyn.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: I'm gonna git me that bra!
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 05:59:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.215827.11282@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>
>>me  ($53)
>
>Enough of this nickle-and-dime shit!  $55.  I leave for Japan (forever
>- *sniff* :) in 5 weeks and this seems like a perfect reminder of why
>America, Usenet, and the DoD are great.

Those are going to be my cups flowing over, I'm telling you!

$58. 

>(``what's that officer?  sorry, I don't speak Japanese and can't read
>all those silly signs written in Japanese, either.'' Maybe Japan won't
>be so bad after all. Bahahaha!)

I understand from a friend that many of the signs are in English as
well.
-- 
Rich Lawrence, Synoptics Systems Engineer  DOD#9630  rich@grebyn.com
     '92 Seca II "Yuri"  CI$:71101,2272  GEnie:R.LAWRENCE14
   215 years ago my government gave me certain inalienable rights.
     Since then, they've been trying to correct their mistake.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 100 mph highways?  No way! (Was Re: Radar Gun For Sale)
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:00:48 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

tomes@iastate.edu () writes:

>I think 100 mph is
>reasonable for the interstate, since the original specs on the interstate
>system were written for 100mph max speed

Maybe the original specs were, but a lot of the federal highway
system was built long after the specs had changed.

There are a number of highways in New England where you
really *don"t* want your average cager to be going 100 mph.
Some of those clowns can't hold their lane at 55, forget about 100!

I've never been to Iowa, but I assume the roads are
straight and flat?

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Almost got me today, film at 11
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 06:17:16 GMT

Pop quiz question:  When are you really on the watch for deer?
Normal answer:      At dusk, especially in forest areas.

So much for that.

At about 11 AM today, on a cold sunny day, I was cruising at about the
DoD nominal speed on the beltway around Columbus Ohio.  At this point
it was about 4 or 5 lanes each direction, with housing developments on 
both sides.

What do I see, but Bambi making a kamakaze streak for the van about 50 yards
in front of me.  I hit the brakes, and look around because where there's
one there may be five.  Not five, I only spot one more - just Bambi's buddy 
Ralph (who clearly has been attack trained) headed straight for my bike!
Hard on the brakes, with ABS cycling on the rear - just miss the critter!


That makes me think back on an offer here on wreck.moto that I should
gone after.  Do you remember:

>I can let you have a really killer bargain on genuine Venison-B-Gon(tm)
>Deer Whistles.  They *really*, *really* work!  A safe and effective 
>ruminant deterrent for Mule Deer, White-tail, Gazelle, Kudu, Pronghorn, 
>Elk, Giraffe, Moose, Holstein, Jackalope, and Buffalo. Don't miss out on 
>
>"Note: Venison-B-Gon Deer Whistles are NOT recommended for use with Impala,
>       Lechwe, Sable, Bongos, Water Buffalo, or Bison.   Laboratory
>       results on these species are indeterminate, and the manufacturer
>       dislaims any liability for purchaser attempts to utilize this product
>       with these species."
>
>In the actual lab product testing trials, we fed all the various species
>megadoses of V-B-G Deer Whistles to test their effectiveness. The Mule Deer,
>White-tail, Gazelle, Kudu, Pronghorn, Elk, Giraffe, Moose, Holstein, Jackalope,
>and Buffalo all died, but the Impala, Lechwe, Sable, Bongo, Water Buffalo, 
>and Bison actually seemed to relish the whistles and would select 
>them over standard cattle-feed when offered a choice.   An unexpected
>side effect of V-B-G consumption was the production of unusual high-frequency 
>noises during episodes of bovine flatulence (BF). 

I didn't order and install a V-B-G Deer Whistle at the time, since there
seemed to be a substantial chance of being consumed, bike and all, by
an Impala, Lechwe, Sable, Bongo, Water Buffalo or Bison if I encountered
one of those by chance.  It might be that Bambi's buddy Ralph really was
one of this group and not a deer, and he was just checking to see if there
was a V-B-G Deer Whistle on my bike!  Maybe lucky there wasn't!

As a note for future researchers, I did not note any high frequency noises
associated with BF during this close encounter, at least not from Ralph.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff

            {         Bikes 1,  deer 0         }
From: kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD #106))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Call me Stupid...
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:05:13 GMT

in article <1992Dec23.194808.17196@colorado.edu>, laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) says:
> 
> i went down hard in very hot weather in full leathers without a
> scratch. of course you can have some comfort now but (possibly)
> later you will be on hurting puppy

hey laz,

Wuddya mean, with out a scratch!  

Then what was all that whining, whimpering, moaning, groaning, and
complaining?  Was that just an attempt to get some attention or was it
just your ego that was hurt.  Geez, louise.  I've never heard such
complaining from a full-grown boy.

And get a bike.  You too, Ed.
  					    Kevin

Kevin Malloy  kevin.malloy@att.com  		  DoD #106  1991 BMW K75RT
633 E. 11th Ave.      __
Denver, CO  80203     \/   With Liberty and Justice for all, NO EXCEPTIONS
(303) 830-2937							  Un-Do #2
From: marrevola@rediris.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ZX-11, transmission
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:49:10 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

In article <1992Dec22.130756.1@sc9.intel.com>, rcrandall@sc9.intel.com writes:
> Has anyone out there had problems with their ZX-11 transmission as I have.
> I'm interested in settlements with dealers, rectification, etc...
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Rob

As far as I know, all big Kawasakis have the same problem, they have a very
rude transmission.The transition from no gas to gas opened is felt as a
transmission gap. Also, rear wheel transmission sprocket 
rubber dampers should be renewed very often.



-- 
Manuel Arrevola Velasco   ||||| True e-mail: manolo@taf.fundesco.es |||||
ZX-11
DR-600-S           
DoD #1033
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: using winter gloves for skiing
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:18:43 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <1992Dec28.044301.5936@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>
                  c60c-3gi@web-3b.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:

>well, Im going skking after New Years and I'm currently getting rady for it.
>I discovered the ski gloves I've used for the past about 4 years is too 
>small, and I need a new one.  But, being poor (I can barely afford to pay for
>rest of the ski trip expense, after it, I'll be completely broke!) I
>would be happier if I could avoid buying a new pair of gloves.

If you're going to partake in the ultimate yuppy winter activity and are not
able to sport all new gear, including gloves, then you're obviously just a
poser, and a not very convincing one at that!

;-)

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Front Tire Off Ground
Date: 24 Dec 92 21:45:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
In-reply-to: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu's message of 24 Dec 92 17:33:09 GMT

In article <4492@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes:
Tod> How can I get the front tire of my motorcycle about 7" off the ground

Put the bike in first, rev to near red-line and pop the clutch while
sitting on the pillion.

Tod> and remove my front tire

Have Rich run REAL FAST next to you with ratchet in hand

Tod> without endagering the lives of anyone with a four block radius

Oh.

Ride the front tire of the bike up on a ramp far enough for a friend
to slip a milk crate under the frame.  Hold the rear brake while said
friend slides the ramp forward.  If you are removing the front wheel,
block up the rear tire before taking the weight off.  Worked for my
Low-Rider.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>         MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.  "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
From: car377@druhi.ATT.COM (RogersC)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast. Why? What is your experience?
Summary: Proper tire pressure depends on loading
Date: 26 Dec 92 06:19:37 GMT

In article <sreeb.724999452@crash.cts.com>, sreeb@crash.cts.com (Ed Beers) writes:
> 
> Where did you get this.  I have been using 26 front, 28 rear on my SR500
> since the owners manual said to.  Do newer tires require heigher pressure?

Any bike's tire pressure (measured with an *accurate* gauge) after the tire is warmed up
to normal operating temperature should not vary more than 2 psi from the cold tire 
reading.   

Proper tire inflation pressure varies according to the load (weight) on the tires, 
and figures listed in owner manuals and tire manufacturer literature are typically 
guidelines only.  Yamaha usually lists different inflation pressures for different
load ranges, regardless of bike model, but even these may be off somewhat for your 
particular riding circumstances/needs.

I run 46 psi rear, 38 psi front in my ME55A/ME33A, but my '85 FJ1100N with me and
the loaded hard bags aboard runs at the high end of the load range.  My ME33A typically
goes 10K-12K (Stoppies 'R Us) , and the ME55A seldom does better than 5K (Warp-O-Rama) 
before I'm into the wear bars.  I keep contemplating a switch to the ME88 Marathon, 
but it's only H-rated, and I'd hate for it to come apart during one of those
rare, but memorable, visits to the land of 130+.

Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com