HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: mono and color
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 02:51:45 GMT

Robert Chalmers (d10590@tanus.oz.au) wrote:
: Can someone tell me what the secret is when switching ( upgrading ) from mono
: to vga monitors. What else must be changed apart from /etc/ttys in order for
: the new screen to work. I am currently running mono, Hercules mono card.
: However, when I plug in a vga card and monitor, after the boot up messages,
: nothing. The 'normal' mono text is lost and the poor old vga screen just sits
: there. I hope this does not mean a re-installation? It would be nice if MWC
: actually LISTED the tunable parameters in the kernal if that is what it takes.

At the installation you sayed that you only want mono terminals, now color
terminals does not work. The patchable kernel variables are VTMONO for monos
and VTVGA for colors. Patch them to the number of consoles which you want
to use. Don't patch your original kernel, make a copy to coh.test and patch
that! BTW, take a look at /conf/gen/patches.
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From: rjw@disco.rgm.com (robert willis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Change typomatic rate?
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:15:12 GMT

Is it possible to change the typomatic rate on the keyboard with 
coherent.  When i say typomatic rate, i mean how many characters
you get if you hold the key down and how long it takes before
they start to repeat.  Thanks in advance.
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: various questions
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:09:41 GMT

BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E (buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
: I will do just that! I read the console entry in the lexicon, and tried the
: <esc>[ commands but they don't work, just cause a beep. How do I set the
: fore/background colors? tx,
: Timothy. 

Sure does they work. Use sh (not ksh) and just type them in. Eg type
ESC[31m and you forground color is red and so on.
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From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: vn won't save files
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:45:34 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>
> I just installed the installable news package, and I'm testing it
> out.  Tass seems to work just fine, but vn refuses to save anything.
>
> It gives me an error saying that it cannot save the files, and I can't
> figure out why.  permissions on both tass and vn are:
>
>      -r-s--s--x news    news     <size> <date> <file>
>
> Since both permissions are the same, it seems unlikely to me that it
> would be a permission problem.  Any suggestions?  Anyone else had this
> problem and solved it?
>
> -John D. Boggs     uunet!erato!jdb
>

The permissions of vn are not necessarily the issue, but rather the permissions
of the directory that vn wants to write to. The default permissions of a
user's home directory don't allow public write, su user news couldn't write
to your home directory. Don't run vn as setuid and it should work.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Coherent - the ultimate BBS in itself?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 20:22:14 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: BBS

messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:

> interest since I would like to set up one also.  It struck me,
> however, that most posts seemed to suggest a DOS BBS model ported to
> unix platform, which to me would be a step back.  After thinking about
> it for a sec I realized that unix offers a superior model for BBS just
> in itself, simply by implementing tools that are already there.  With
> some functions written for ksh all of the average good BBS functions
> could be duplicated having an advantage of being invokable from
> anywhere (command line) without having to cruise through maddening
> menus.  

Sorry, I'd have to disagree. The typical BBS user is about as thick as two
short planks, and can't cope with anything remotely complex in terms of user
interface. If you want people to call your system and not all those MSDOS
BBSs you need a good user interface. I personally prefer working from the
shell, but for many people that's an order of magnitude too complex.

						- k
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From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Are we dead??
Date: 15 Nov 92 10:03
Organization: Not Very Ltd.

hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:
> 
> Anybody have an idea for a programming project?  I think porting is best done
> alone, unless it's a really big job; the communication overhead would not be 
> worth it.  For a start-from-scratch project, however, it would be beneficial.

My vote goes for an (GNU?) emacs port.

ralf
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From: Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Magick Cookies
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:49:34 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/1110.1 - Flying High!, Marietta OH

Bob Hemedinger of 1:226/20 wrote to All of 1:226/20
on <Nov 16 at 16:24>

 BH> Under 'Beginning Installation' of the release notes, we mention the
 BH> display of the message. If you want to slow it down, press <space>
 BH> when prompted by tboot and type the word 'slow' at the ? prompt. At the
 BH> next ? prompt, type in the name of the kernel you want to boot to
continue
 BH> the boot process.

 GREAT! Ok, I hit the space bar and then typed in GIFT it dumped the FIFO.
 Explaine that one Oh Great BUG smasher ;-). any more little goddies lurking
 around that we have not found yet???

                          BJ

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From: buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E)
Subject: Re: various questions
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:41:38 GMT

In article <9211181263@umunk.GUN.de> udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk) writes:
>BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E (buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
>: Thanx, Udo, I will ftp screen. But where is the doc for virtual console;
>: I have not found it in the lexicon. 
>
>My printed manual also doesn't have an entry for virtual console, but there
>is an online manual. Type <man "virtual console"> to read it.

I will do just that! I read the console entry in the lexicon, and tried the
<esc>[ commands but they don't work, just cause a beep. How do I set the
fore/background colors? tx,
Timothy.
From: innes@hal.hahnemann.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: RE: DBMS package
Date: 21 NOV 92 10:43:13 EST
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.hahnemann.edu

Information on /rdb is available by contacting rdb@rsw.com.  I have the
package and is "coherent" with the "small is beautiful" philosophy and worth
the price.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: jboggs@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs)
Subject: file too large for me
Reply-To: erato!jdb@uu.net
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:15:44 GMT

That's me as in micro-emacs, not as in myself :)

So, how do I edit a file that's too big for micro-emacs?  I tried using
vi once and it was unceremoniously truncated.  I really do want to edit
the documentation for xc so that it will print properly under 3.2.1's
somewhat quirky nroff.

-John D. Boggs     uunet!erato!jdb
From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: tty buffers (fwd)
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:09:21 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Forwarded message:
From gort!hal  Thu Nov 19 14:17:23 1992 remote from mwc
Subject: tty buffers
To: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
From: Hal Snyder <hal@gort.mwc.com>
 19, 92 7:36 am
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Message-Id: <9211190806.AA01218@gort.mwc.com>
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:06:07

> > tatsumi@elelab.nsc.co.jp (Tetsu Tatsumi) writes:
> > >      I am using Coherent 4.0 and I want to enlarge tty (or com/asy)
> > > buffers because they miss much characters at 9600bps or 19200bps
> > > on /dev/com1fl or /dev/asy**fl, /dev/asy**fr (I use 2 usual COM ports
> > > and Comtrol Hostess 550 multi-port serial card).  And what is worse,
> > > tty ports with flow control were sometimes choked up because both
> > > CS and RS were turned off.

I suspect that enlarging buffers is not the answer - I'd look at how
the system is loaded, what protocols are in use, etc.  You may simply be
asking more of your CPU than the present configuration allows.

> > One of the techs at MWC told me it was best NOT to use the flow control
> > ports because they used software (XON/XOFF) flow control. It's better to
> > use the regular ports with hardware flow control enabled.

There are two kinds of flow control - XON/XOFF for text only, which can be
controlled independently for input v. output, and RTS/CTS, which is
recommended for high speed (9600 baud or more) modems which support it,
and a few models of serial printer which support it.

> > system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
> > Micro-Medic                          public access usenet (408)279-5240
> > 711 Lincoln Avenue                  public access pcboard (408)280-1610
> > San Jose, CA 95126                    FileServer - FTPMail@micromed.com

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From: piggy@hilbert.cc.utas.edu.au (La Monte Yarroll)
Subject: Re: Installing Coherent 4.0.1A, and at wit's end...
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:35:49 GMT

marktn@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (It's Me!) writes:

> > > kranitz@mr.med.ge.com (Wes Kranitz 4-6857 MRCE) writes:
> > >
> > > > Is it only me, or has anyone else noticed that while Coheren
> > > > and the rotating "/" is occuring, A periodic "Buy Cohware!"
> > > > It's so fast it's almost impossible to see.
> > >
> > > Yep, it's there... Hmmm... last I heard subliminal advertising
...
> Sheesh! Doesn't anyone have a sense of humour any more? At least some people
> at MWC do, and IMNSHO that's a Good Thing.

I'm glad to see that someone appreciates my humor.  I thought my
loader was a bit boring to watch, so I jazzed it up a bit.

For more fun try the command "feet" at the boot prompt.

As mentioned by Bob Hemedinger, if you have difficulty reading the
message, you can use the "slow" command.


On leave of absense from Mark Williams Company...
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: jbf@wts.com (Jens B. Fiederer)
Subject: Re: qq on raven.alaska.edu- ???
Organization: Wegmans Transaction Services
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:42:05 GMT

In article <9211201330.37@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>
>QQ is meant to be used with the Coherent 3.x, which is the 286 version.
>It requires the Device Developer Kit.
>
>It will not work with Coherent 4.x.
>
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>Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP

Does anyone know then the Device Driver Development kit will be available for
the 386 version of Coherent?

Jens Fiederer
From: shendrix@PCS.CNU.EDU ("", Shannon Hendrix)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Tcl to replacement most of /bin & /usr/bin (was: Tcl on Linux
Date: 22 Nov 92 04:07:55 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>


	You still aren't getting it.  I *DONT* want to turn UNIX into DOS.  I
guess I'm just saying DOS as a point of reference.  Users want a system like
DOS where they load up their software and that is all.  And yet, some of them
have highly customized DOS systems and they want that at the same time.  I
want UNIX to kick DOS off the desktop and to do that it needs to change some.
Nothing that would change it for those that don't want change.  I wouldn't
give you a DOS functionality.  But for a computer neophyte who learned DOS
by rote, it helps to let them go slowly.  I don't even really agree with that
strategy but corporat America does.  Just look at Windows.  The users started
by reluctantly sliding into Windows and now it will be much easier to take the
step to NT than it would have been without the interim step.  If it will help
UNIX get a firm grip on the market, I say do it.  If I was in charge, I'd
just put the system in front of them and teach them how to use it.  But I'm
not so I try to find ways to convince the skeptics to use UNIX.  It works
sometimes and I don't see anything wrong with it.

	I know about foolish people too.  Once I visited a large Macintosh
shop.  I was amazed to see people do their work and then just turn the thing
off without doing a proper shutdown.  A Mac must save its system information to
the root file system or it can corrupt the file system.  There was a sign about
ten feet long that said "Perform a shutdown from Finder before turning off
your Mac!!!!"

	I knew that WordPerfect was available for UNIX.  However, I hate it
and its expensive.  Also, they have these annoying user limits.  I think
I could get to like Ami Pro though.  Tried an older version with Windows
once but didn't like it.  I've seen the newer versions and they are OK for
a Windows word processor.  I haven't seen it advertised or anything.  Where
have you seen it?  Right now, I use Island Write at the university but its
only available (as far as I know) for a system running NeWS.  NeWS is a real
drag on the system and I don't see the point.  Postscript is fine for printers
but I rather not have it on my screen.  I'm trying to get a Sun Sparcstation
IPC at school to boot with just X and olvwm but we don't have a copy of a
plain vanilla X server.  I'd probably loose my mind trying to compile it
from source, though we do have a 512meg drive that's empty...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: lowerjc@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (J. Craig Lowery)
Subject: Re: ulimit system call
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:55:18 GMT

In article <By1DK4.8qq@inews.Intel.COM> jdhuse@sedona.intel.com (Jon Dhuse~) writes:
>
>Hello!
>
>Can anyone help me with the specifics of the system call "ulimit()".  It seems
>to be for getting and setting process characteristics, but I can't find any
>mention of it in the Coherent Lexicon, or in the on line manual.  Thanks in
>advance...
>
>Jon.


In Unix, ulimit is used to set user limits.  Maximium sbrk value, maximum
file sizes, etc.  I'm sorry, but I don't have COH documentation on it.
I could, however, send you the SunOS man page.  How similar the COH and
SUN implementations are is unclear.

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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: lint (was Re: various questions)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Organization: Udo Munk's private BBS
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 13:23:26 GMT

Rick Kelly (rmk@rmkhome.UUCP) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov21.014517.23226@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> jboggs@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (John D. Boggs) writes:
: >
: >Okay, it's time to ask. .  .   .    .
: >
: >What, pray tell, is lint?
: 
: The stuff that you pick out of your navel when
: you have nothing else to do. :-)

Well, a not very informative answer :-)

Lint is a analyser for C sources. It checks function declarations
agains function calls, warns about not portable constructs,
not used variables, ignored function return values, falling
through a case switch and a lot more. The greatest advantage
(over ANSI C) is, that you can feed a whole project consist of
more then one source file, through lint. It compares the function
declaration in source file a against the function calls in
source files b, c..., and gives warnings, if arguments are of
the wrong type, or if the return value is used inconsistently.
With ANSI C the programmer has to do this work writing header
files with function prototypes. Of course there exists programs,
which creates the prototypes from an existing source.
And please: no hot discussions now about what is better, ANSI C
or K&R C + lint. Both is the same, if you have to write programs
which must be portable to older versions of UNIX use K&R C + lint,
else use ANSI C.
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From: doug@ve6bc.nebulus.ampr.ab.ca (Douglas MacKintosh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: SCSI controller question
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:01:39 GMT
Organization: Amateur Radio VE6BC - Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Greetings,

I am in need of info about your experiences with Coherent 4.0 and SCSI disk
controllers. I currently use a couple old CDC Wren-2's (MFM), and I am about
to add a SCSI controller and drive. Have you done this? If so, please tell me
about it. I am considering one of the Adaptec boards, but I have seen some 
grumpy postings about these in comp.periphs.scsi. Do the Future Domain and/or
Seagate SCSI controllers function well? How about performance? Please e-mail
me your horror stories and shining successes...

tnx,
Doug

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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: lowerjc@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (J. Craig Lowery)
Subject: Re: Are we dead??
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:57:33 GMT

In article <9211202357.AA17354@eskimo.chi.il.us> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>>
>> hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:
>> >
>> > Anybody have an idea for a programming project?
>>
>> My vote goes for an (GNU?) emacs port.
>>
>> ralf
>
>Hear, Hear
>

Wow.  REAL emacs on COH?  That WOULD be nice!

<Craig>



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From: kkress@phent.UUCP (Kenneth R. Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Where is Bison?
Keywords: Bison mwcbbs yacc
Organization: That's Entertainment BBS
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 01:36:32 +0100

	 _______________________________________________________
	| I discovered my /etc/timezone was messed up and	|
	| this may have halted dissemination of some of		|
	| my posts. If this is a repeat, I apologize.		|
	 -------------------------------------------------------

I've read a couple of times recently that Bison is available
on mwcbbs, but I can't find it. Also I've read that some would
like a regular (monthly?) posting here of the contents of 
mwcbbs.
	To make sure I wasn't missing bison, I downloaded the
Contents files: down, UPD, 32bit, news.

l *.print produces:
-rw-r--r--  1 root       root          3702 Sun Nov 22 14:28 32.print
-rw-r--r--  1 root       root          3138 Sun Nov 22 14:29 UPD.print
-rw-r--r--  1 root       root         27347 Sun Nov 22 14:27 down.print
-rw-r--r--  1 root       root          6298 Sun Nov 22 14:40 news.print

egrep -y "bison|yacc" *.print produces:
UPD.print: FILE:      yacc.322.Z		DATE: 3/3/92		SIZE: 20920
UPD.print:  New yacc, produces tighter code

	So ... I can't find bison, but I can post the contents files. I will
do so Nov. 24 unless I hear a nay vote.
	Where is bison?
				Ken.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: pblack@cory.Berkeley.EDU (BLACK  PAUL)
Subject: mail .forward (ver 3.2.1)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:32:40 GMT

I am running version 3.2.1.  I'm trying to set up an autoresponse
program under Coherent.  I've tried using the .forward file to direct
the mail to a program (with formats such as "|autorespond") and to a
named pipe, but both fail.  The mailer returns the message to me with
messages about those are not valid.

Can I use .forward to send to files or pipes?  Have other people got
auto-responders working on Coherent?  If so, how?

Thanks.

-paul black-
paul@beehive.cirrus.com
pblack@cs.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mucci@circle.cs.jhu.edu (Philip Mucci)
Subject: What doesn't Coherent have that Unix does?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:58:00 GMT

	Could someone please give a description of what Coherent doesn't
include that would normally be in a standard Unix package?

	Thanks,
		-P.M