From: schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz)
Newsgroups: alt.feminism
Subject: Re: liberal men are a hot item? (and more refs)
Date: 13 Nov 1992 02:35:54 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <MUFFY.92Nov12113636@remarque.berkeley.edu>
muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:

>>>>Which means that your remarks about androgyny have little relevance
>>>>to the original claim (see the subject line).  I'm pointing this out
>>>>on the off-chance that you might have thought otherwise.
>>>
>>>Well, I *did* think otherwise, because in the article I was replying to,
>>>Robert Schaeffer was talking about men looking like "hunks."  Sorry to
>
>>And why did a reference to hunks make you think 'otherwise,' i.e.
>>that you were contributing to the subject of liberal men?
>
>*sigh*...one more try, although it would be simpler if you would read
>the two posts (Robert's and mine).

These are irrelevant to my question.  I'm referring to your use
of the term 'otherwise' above, not to any other post.  What
exactly do you think 'otherwise' about, my point that androgyny
and liberal aren't synonymous?  If so, then you're directly
contradicting yourself. 

>I don't know why that bothers you so much that
>you have to repeatedly question me on it.

Doesn't bother me at all, just trying to make sense out of
your last post.  You can't contradict yourself ad libitem and
expect to be reasonably understood, especially on the net.  

In case anybody's still interested in the subject of sex differences
in mate selection, here are a couple more recent refs I just
dug up.

-S. Schultz

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Feingold, Alan. 1992. Gender differences in mate selection preferences: A 
test of the parental investment model. Psychological Bulletin 112(1): 125-
139.
".... As predicted, women accorded more weight than men to socioeconomic 
status (SES), ambitiousness, character, and intelligence, and the largest 
gender differences were observed for cues to resource acquisition (status, 
ambitiousness)....Where valid comparisons could be made, the findings 
were generally invariant across generations, cultures, and research 
paradigms."

Kenrick, Douglas T. ; Keefe, Richard C. 1992. Age preferences in mates 
reflect sex differences in human reproductive strategies. Behavioral & 
Brain Sciences 15(1): 75-133.
Abstract: Hypothesized that men prefer women around their own age, but 
that as they grow older, men develop a preference for women who, 
although not absolutely younger, are progressively younger than 
themselves and that women begin with a preference for older men, and 
compared with men, show less variation in that preference over their life 
span. Six studies support this gender- differentiated prediction in age 
preferences expressed in 218 personal advertisements, 1,189 marriages 
from 2 US cities, 100 marriages in 1923, matrimonial advertisements from 
2 European countries and India, 1,789 marriages recorded from 1913-
1939 on a small island in the Philippines, and 213 singles advertisements 
placed by financially successful American women and men. Limitations of 
normative and evolutionary explanations of age preferences are 
considered.
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