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From: assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: water change
Followup-To: assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:26:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: polkadot

In article <178@jptcs.COM> Steve.Kilbey%bbs@jptcs.com (Steve Kilbey) writes:
>
>I just wanted to share my experiences. I am not arguing with people's
>philosophies about water changing, but I simply do not do it. I have had my
>55 gallon tank with non-african cichlids in it. I haven't changes the water
>in over 3 years. Casualties: ZERO! I have had my 10 gallon community tank
>for about 10 months. No water change. Casualties: ZERO!. My african cichlid
>tank is over 2 months old. No water changes, no casualties. ZERO oom ammonia
>in all tanks. 7.5 pH in African tank, 7.0 in community, upper 6's in 55
>gallon tank. I add about a gallon a month to each tank from evaporation. 


How do you do this?? how crowded are you tanks? 

Although my ammonia and nitrite levels have always
been very close to zero, I do a 25% water change every week!!!!!
It makes me feel better about my fish's quality of living.
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior)
Subject: Re: Tiny-FAQ for alt.binaries.pictures
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:34:20 GMT

In article <C0Hn2y.LJv@ra.nrl.navy.mil> tse@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Anthony Tse) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.011412.21306@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan6.080349.12384@zooid.guild.org> Lynda Fincham <gaea@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>>To save a picture from a *.binaries group using TRN (or RN), just use "s" or
>>>"w", TRN will automatically append new files on the end. Once you've got all
>>>the pieces in one file, remove all the headers and gunk at the top (including
>>>description) so it's one big binary file. Then type "uudecode filename" where
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



>>
>>How does one edit a binary file?
>>
>   You don't.  An uuencoded file is ASCII, the whole point of
>uuencoding.
>
Sorry, I misunderstood the poster.

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From: oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Nords
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:17:22 GMT
Reply-To: oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft

montana@pinetree.org (David Wong) writes:
>Are there any contact here for the Quebec Nordiques?

Are they fresh water or marine Nords?
-- 
Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: dbs@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Dave Sheehy)
Subject: Re: [M][R] Sources for Calcium Supplements
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:06:52 GMT
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

James P Ancona (ancona@wpi.WPI.EDU) wrote:
: A while back there was some discussion here of using Calcium Chloride 
: Dihydrate as a calcium supplement for reef tanks.  I tried calling several
: chemical supply houses in the area, and no one carries it (at least not in
: reagent grade, as was suggested in the articles).  Can anyone suggest a source
: that will deal by mail, and in the quantities (~ 1 kg) a hobbiest might want?

Try asking for food grade. I got some at a local pharmacy.

Dave Sheehy

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: mattk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (matthew.kaufman)
Subject: Re: OUTDOOR PONDS
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:01:25 GMT
Summary: Yes but there are ways to avoid 'em

In article <1993Jan6.203759.28005@nrtpa038.bnr.ca> Sparky writes:
>We have considered a pond, too.  In our neighborhood roams
>a large raccoon or raccoons.  We've been told that it would
>be pointless to create a fish pond, as the 'coons will
>simply eat the fish!
>
>Is there any truth to this?

When I looked into building a pond this was a concern I had as well, given
the large amount of wildlife that regularly marches through my yard
laying my gardens to waste. What I was told to avoid depradations by racoons
was to build the pond so that the sides of the pond are straight up and down
and make the pond fairly deep (4', which was what I intended all along.)
If the slides slope down or if you have a terrace along the inside edge of the
pond, they may walk in and try to catch fish, however they won't do this
in a pond where they can't easily find footing along the edge.

I didn't build the pond for other reasons, but this seems to be the common
approach to dealing with raccoons.
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Subject: Re: Alligator Gars...
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:11:52 GMT


>The Alligator Gars I saw about a week ago in the Tennessee Aquarium 
>were about 4 feet long and I'm not even sure they were full grown.
>BTW, they were in a several hundred thousand gallon tank.  Will your
>125 gallon be able to accommedate them?

No... I don't think it will!  :)   But by the time he reaches any respectable
length, I should have an even bigger tank, I hope...

Mike
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,chi.wanted,rec.aquaria
From: trues@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.b.truesdale)
Subject: SW Equip FOR SALE
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:11:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Ozone, Redox, Air drier



                FOR SALE - Salt water aquarium equipment

I have discontinued my salt water hobby so here is the remaining
equipment that is for sale:

        1 Sanders Redox-Pot-Meter 0-1000mv      $350.00
        1 Sanders Ozonier Model 100             $110.00
        1 Air drier tube with beads             $ 40.00

Contact: Jim Truesdale  AT&T Bell Labs 708-713-4110

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: What new innovation, software or products do you want to see
Summary: What a waste.
 Expires: 
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Duh.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 08:13:08 GMT


     I want to see some really smart software that will read
     ahead of me in these newsgroups and destroy posts like
     this (mine and the one I'm referring to) so that I don't
     have to wear out my 'n' key.

     Uncle Fester

 PS - And of course "makecash" posts.

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From: davep@paladin.corp.sgi.com (David Packer)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: [M] HELP??!
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:11:31 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: paladin.corp.sgi.com

I don't know if it's to late. But I treated my tank 4 days ago with
MAREX. I had a really bad outbreak of black-ick. I added a second
dose yesterday morning.

This morning my Poweder Blue-Tang was lying sideways breathing 
heavily. I'm worried that he's going to die. So I added in
some special de-chlorinator that helps to neutralize the reagents
in MAREX.

Anyone ever had a bad experience??

Dave
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita)
Subject: Re: Keeping plants alive.... how?!?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:22:51 GMT

booth@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (George Booth) writes:
>Beware, or at least be careful, of cheap laterite.  Folks have reported 
>that it will cloud the water for hours/days/ever depending on the filter
>used.  

I am a folk, and I report that cheap laterite *will* cloud your water
until filtered out -- i.e. it will not settle on the surface of your
substrate.

Frank Fujita
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: dbs@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Dave Sheehy)
Subject: Re: [M] metal halide $$$
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:13:43 GMT
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Colt Forsythe (colt@vaxeline.ftp.com) wrote:
: Recently, I was pricing metal halide systems. The bulbs were
: expensive ($65) but within my budget. However, the hood systems
: were very expensive ($265 for one pendent setup). Why are they
: so expensive and are there any alternatives?

I just ordered and received 2 of the Venture 5500K 175Watt MH bulbs from 
a local electric supply for $48 each. Apparently, a local electrical 
contractor is also a reef aquariust and "educated" the sales people so
they understand what you're talking about when you ask. All I had to do
was talk to the right salesperson and they were able to special order them
for me. It took less than a week to get them. They also stock or are able
to order the fixtures and ballasts for a reasonable price (like $50 for a
single 175W MH ballast and fixture).

: Colt

Dave Sheehy

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: lauram@lazarus.corp.sgi.com (Laura MacKinnon)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Aquariums for sale
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:59:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

[Apologies to nonlocal readers.  Distribution "ba" doesn't seem to
help much.]   

4 Aquariums (w/accessories) all less than 3 years old - freshwater 
	All good condition

* 100g glass aquarium fluor hood, 2 power heads, Fluval 403, wood stand,
etc

* 35g glass aquarium fluor hood, 1 power head, 2 outside filters, stand,
etc

* 22g tall glass aquarium, fluor hood

* 10g glass aquarium, outside filter

I'd prefer to sell the whole thing for approx. $400/bo.
	Located in Sunnyvale.  Call (408) 739-7121.
	You transport.

-- 
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 (415) 390-5329		Silicon Graphics
From: dsavard@col.hp.com (Don Savard)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: [F] Tank Upgrade
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:20:26 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: fajita19.cs.itc.hp.com


Hi fellow aquarists :-)

As the header states, I'm thinking of upgrading my 10 gal freshwater to a 
29 gal fresh. After the larger tank is set-up, established and occupied
by the 10's current residents, I'm going to try to keep the 10 as a hospital
tank for quarantine purposes until the larger tank is fully occupied 
(but not overcrowded).

A little history :

The 10 has been running since the first week of September. It's current
happy residents are 6 White Clouds, 2 Green Cories, & a male Betta. Plants 
include Red & Green Ludwigia, Elodea Densas, and Hornwort. The plants are 
happy too, Elodeas are sprouting big-time, Ludwigias are slowly growing, and 
the Hornwort's growing like dandelions. It's filtered with a Whisper 1 filter
which I plan to transfer to the larger tank.

Here's the plan:

The fish place I frequent will sell me the tank, I'll get a 15% discount
on the add-ons, and a fish club membership that entitles me to a 10%
discount on fish for a year. (Sounds like it could be a good deal).

I plan on getting a small sponge filter for the 10 gal, which will stay as 
the primary filter for the hospital tank. I'll be running the 2 filters for a
couple of weeks to establish the sponge filter before taking the Whisper out
and into the new tank. I'll also be taking out 80% of the gravel in the 10 &
adding it to the gravel in the larger tank. How long would it take to cycle the
sponge filter and the new tank this way? Anyone try this before? Complications?
Better ideas? Post or e-mail me directly (dsavard@cs.its.hp.com), whichever is
convenient. I'll try to summarize responses.


I'm also planning on buying some plants through mail-order from That Fish Place.
Anyone have any recommendations regarding this idea?


Thanks in advance for the advice.


Don

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Subject: For sale: 2 Albino Oscars, 1 Golden Sev. NYC AREA <REPOST>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:18:31 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

NEW YORK CITY AREA:

FOR SALE: Slightly negotiable



Pair Albino Oscars (aprox 10" each).................$70.00 pair

Golden Severum (red eyes)...........................$50.00

Pair Mating Convicts................................$20.00

30 gallon tank......................................$20.00

Send e-mail if interested. paul@panix.com or call 718/636-8072




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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: patton@phy.uab.edu (David Patton)
Subject: Re: Alligator Gars...
Reply-To: patton@phy.uab.edu
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:38:38 GMT

In article 28136@rdg.dec.com, jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria) writes:
>
>
>	I picked up a 7" long alligator gar the other day for my 125 gallon
>	tank...
>
>	I assumed there would be more info on him in my EXOTIC TROPICAL
>	FISH manual... or in my BAENSCH book (sp?).  But, there isn't.
>
>	Does/has anyone kept Alligator Gar's before?  Anyone have any tips
>	or useful information for me.
>
>	Thanks (in advance).
>
>	Mike



The Alligator Gars I saw about a week ago in the Tennessee Aquarium 
were about 4 feet long and I'm not even sure they were full grown.
BTW, they were in a several hundred thousand gallon tank.  Will your
125 gallon be able to accommedate them?

David Clay Patton                                  patton@phy.uab.edu
Physics Department
University of Alabama at Birmingham                So much to learn,
Birmingham, Al 35294                               so little time!!!

Xref: sparky alt.aquaria:6520 rec.aquaria:9956 misc.consumers:21846
From: zaphod@src4src.linet.org (Steve Wechsler)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,misc.consumers
Subject: decorative stones
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:50:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Source for Source


(Sorry to crosspost this to misc.consumers, but since it's not really
a fishy question, I thought someone there might know the answer).

Hello, netfolx.

I recently purchased a 55 gallon setup, sans gravel.  I'd like to get
some of those silvery polished stones like they sell at The Nature
Store or World of Science to use instead of gravel, but there are a
couple of questions:

1) (this is where the folks at misc.consumers come in)  Does anyone
know a good, inexpensive source for these?  At the science stores
they're too expensive and they only sell them in small packages.

2) Is there any problem with using these in a freshwater aquarium?
Also, how will they affect my undergravel filter?

3) Will there be any problems putting live plants in them?

Thanks...

Steve
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Subject: Re: OUTDOOR PONDS
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 18:17:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.070319.6689@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.004451.26930@rigel.econ.uga.edu> hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes) writes:
>>  I'd prefer plastic, but can only imagine that it will be
>>  punctured the first time a deer decides to take a wade.
>
>You could try covering the upper portion of the liner with 3-4" flat river
>rocks.  If the slopes of the pond are not very steep, you might be able to
>line the slopes and the bottom with the same kinds of rocks.  I am not sure
>how advisable it may be, but you may want to try using clay or even cenment

  Let me restate to see if I understand.  Line the sand covered bottom
  and sides of the pond with the thick good plastic, then fit smooth 
  flat rocks on top of horizontal and shallow sloped surfaces to protect
  the plastic from sharp hooves.  Then a cheaper plastic on top of
  all this.  (The slopes are quite steep in most places, but that's
  ok since they're more or less protected by the slope itself.)

  This seems like it may solve the problem.  Are there any comments
  from people who have had this problem?

  Thanks (a lot!)
  Wayne


Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: black@lester.sybase.com (Chris Black)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Green Water (was Re: Forget hatching brine shrimp).
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:53:28 GMT

In article <1iag5rINNilr@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> pjs@gvgdsd.GVG.TEK.COM (Peter J. Stonard) writes:
>Anyone know the secret to truely green 'soup'??

Well, my goldfish tank became ineradicably green when I started using
a phosphate pH buffer.

-- Chris
black@sybase.com
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From: davep@paladin.corp.sgi.com (David Packer)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: [M] Lighting
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:07:14 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: paladin.corp.sgi.com


I have a 26 gal. long Reef tank. My lighting is set-up as 

1 - 36" Actinic   40W
1 - 36" Ultra-Lum 40W
1 - 24" Actinic   20W
1 - 24" Ultra-Lum 20W

This gives me approx 4.6Watts per Gal. Which is what I've read 
a good rate.  I had some real problems with algae grown. At one
point I was ready to throw in the towel.  I added a sump, with a
skimmer. added on the other 24" ultra-Lum. Put (2) free-standing
power heads and a Kole tang (the only fish).  Now everything seems
really happy. Even my green star polyps. Which had all seemed to
parish except 1 or 2. have rejuvenated and every day they seem happier.
Last count there were 30 polyps.

My Nitrates = 0;
   Nitrites = 0;
   Ammonia  = 0;
   PH       = 8.4;
   Salinity = 1.024

Dave
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Subject: [M][R] Mail order live/base rock experiences
Keywords: Wholesale prices?
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN
Date:  6 Jan 93 01:37:31 GMT


Can anyone tell me of any source that you've had good luck mail
ordering reef rock from?  I'm interested in base and live coralline
encrusted rock.  I've seen a few (Reef Displays) advertise in FAMA but
I sort of hate to order sight unseen.  I'd also be interested in
wholesale pricing with large orders.  Suggestions?  Thanks a lot!

--tom

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From: booth@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (George Booth)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:12:28 GMT
Subject: [F] Success with Algae Destroyer
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria

An update on our attempts to deal with a bad case of "beard algae".

This type of beard algae, at least in our tanks, is bright green and
grows mostly on plant leaves.  It gets to about 1" (2.54 cm) long and
tends to look like long, green velvet.  It "blows in the wind" like
fields of wheat.  It is impossible to mechanically remove from the
plant leaf, unlike "hair" and "thread" algae.

The "Algae-Destroyer" product worked for us.  It is made by Aquarium
Pharmaceuticals and comes in tablet or liquid form.  It seems to be 
available at most fish and pet shops for $4-6 for 18 tablets (treats
90 gallons of water).  It's active ingredient is "Simazine".

We used the tablets at the recommended dosage.  We treated once,
changed 50% of the water after 1 week and treated again, also changing
the water after 1 week.  This cleared up the "beard algae" but had
little or no affect on red brush algae (black tufts) or the easily
removed hair and thread algae.

The treatment had no apparent affect on the fish (Melanotaenia, Corys,
Pekoltia, Farlowella, Ottocinclus) or most plants.  Only Nomaphila
stricta (temple plant) was adversely affected (as in, it pretty much
all died).
 
As a side note, a friend mentioned that Siamese Algae Eaters
(Epalzeorhinchus siamensis), a relative of Flying Foxes, snarfs up red
brush algae like crazy in his tanks.  We haven't had that experience,
but then, we tend to feed our fish and he dosen't.

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From: patbob@sequent.com (Patrick White)
Subject: Re: OUTDOOR PONDS
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 21:36:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.183433.22271@cbnews.cb.att.com> wkb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wm.keith.brummett) writes:
>    I don't know where to get the matting and resin, but it seems to me that
>    this would make a good, tough base for a pond, especially if lined with
>    rubber compound or plastic sheet.  One of these days I'll start looking
>    in art stores for the ingredients.

	Glass cloth and styrene resin are the same things as are used to
do bodywork on cars, so is available in small quantities from auto parts
places.
	For a couple of (large?) ponds though, you probably want something
like a 55Gal drum of the resin and a couple of bolts of the cloth.. try
calling the local plastics companies in town.  If they can't supply it they
can probably tell you who can (plexiglass and fiberglass are closely related
cousins).

	[for those interested in the chemistry behind the stuff, the liquid
is styrene monomer, the hardener starts a polmerizing chain reaction going
which turns it into polystyrene.  The glass cloth is simply there.]


-- 
Pat White (patbob@sequent.com, work: (503) 578-3463)
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