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From: wwm@ef5003.efhd.ford.com (Bill Meahan)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Online Repeater Directory! Watch For It!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:30:32 GMT
Organization: Ford Motor Co., EFHD Ypsilanti Operations
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In article <1992Dec30.161041.5123@ms.uky.edu> johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:
>
>Yeah right!  99% of the ham radio operators I know expect programmers to  
>distribute their software as public domain.  Ham's (including myself) are too  
>cheap to have this type of setup.  Just watch for a nice windows (and NT)  
>version of the software to allow people to find repeaters relative to their  
>location.
>
>John
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Since this thread is about distributing what is essentially a database,
why bother distributing a program at all!  Just distribute the DATA in a
standard format (CSV, xBase or whatever) and let everyone use whatever
their favorite database-file-browser is to use it.  There are certainly
plenty of browsers/db-access programs out there already -- why write
another one?

Yes, there could be some standard "forms" made available for some of the
more popular programs, but nothing would stop anyone from making their
own custom approach.

If it is really necessary to write a program to do some neat-o thing
(like the suggested reading of a Loran receiver), make that SEPARATE
from the data distribution.  That way those of us (a tiny minority, I
know) who DON'T have/use/like PC's are not shut out from the most
important part -- the data.

73 de WA8TZG



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From: jdelancy@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: [ANS] County Hunter Reports
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:53:50 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


>Could someone post the reports that county hunters use?  I've heard
>"threes" and such and would like to know what reports they use and what  
>they mean.
>
"Threes" refers to a report of 3 x 3 (three by three) in the
RS system.  Also heard is the "bang bang" which means a
2 x 2 report.  These are weak signal reports, normally
used when a mobile is in a county inside of the "zone for the
band" i.e. somone in Cook County (IL) trying to work a mobile
in Dupage county on 20 meters. Obviously weak ground wave.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Subject: Re: Closed repeaters
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:54:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy

In article <1ifo38INNqah@transfer.stratus.com> leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis) writes:
>Require PL/CTCSS on all machines, TX and RX, on 144, 220, and 440.
>Add a warning that 10, 6, 900, and 1280 machines may in the future
>require the same.  Allow multiple repeaters on these low usage closed
>pairs.  If they scream, tough, the coordinator never owned the frequencies
>anyway.  Only coordinate high level/high power repeaters if they agree
>to allow ANY user to use the basic repeat function of the machine.

...and you REALLY think any democratic coordinating group could pull this
off?  GET A LIFE!

You're living in a dream world.  WAKE UP!  This is REALITY!  How about a
real, workable solution...I don't think you, or anyone else, can come up
with a plan that is fair for both the repeater owners and repeater users.

Coordination groups have been fighting this battle for years.  None of them
have developed a fair way to accomplish this task.  I'm not saying it can't
be done, but some consideration of the people who own the existing repeaters
is in order here.  They have a vote too, remember.





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From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CFD: proposal for rec.radio.amateur.standup.philosophy
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:01:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com
Keywords: Mel Brooks   Lepetomaine

In article <1ichifINNlik@tamsun.tamu.edu>
kurt@cs.tamu.edu (Kurt Freiberger) writes:
>I would like to propose a new group for the continuing discussion of
>sociopoliticotenchnologistic subjects pertaining to Amateur Radio.  These
>discussions would be in the form of allegories, parallels, parables, and
>"I heard that"`s.  Literary shredding is encouraged, without regard to
>race, religion, national origin, license class, lack of license (amateur or
>literary), or accuracy.
>
>This is in order to formalize an already-existant situation.
>
>Suggested subjects are:

>FCC peccadillos
>
>Harrumph. 

Harrumph indeed!  Well, I'll second the motion providing you can explain
what a pek-a-dee-o is....  --> Sounds like something you grab when
you're unsure of the situation at hand.... (e.g. Get a Grip!)

:-)

-fred

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[ Sun Microsystems,           Southwest Area Solaris Transition Manager ]
[ Phoenix, AZ                                            (602) 275-4242 ]
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:57:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Soldering radials to SO-239's, soldering PL259s
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, moisan@silver.lcs.mit.edu (David Moisan) writes:

>As some of you are aware, there are many designs for 1/4-wave VHF
>antennas that use an SO239, BNC or N chassis-mount connector upon
>which the radials are soldered (to the mounting holes).

>I've tried to build one such antenna using coathangers as the elements.
>But try as I might, as hot as I get the connector (with a 100-watt gun
>newly-purchased), the coathanger will not take solder.

I've always used tinned copper wire for the radials.  I install solder
lugs at the 4 connector holes and make the radials out of two pieces
of (slightly longer than) 1/2 wavelength wire, each soldered to two
solder lugs for mechanical rigidity.

AL N1AL
From: m22755@mwvm.mitre.ORG (Terry Alford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Yeasu FT-470 mods?
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:23:13 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

  A few weeks ago, I purchased an FT-470 2m/70cm HT.  I've been monitoring
this newsletter for about 2 months, but so far have found no references to any
mods pertaining to this HT.  I do not have access to ftp, but would welcome e-
mail, or a posting here advising me of possible mods to increase receive
bandwidth, etc. --- or any other information of interest about this model.
*
*        Terry
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mackness@chesapeake.ads.com (Abby Mackness)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: RE: Distinct Checks
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:04:35 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


>Checks in the Mail (in Calif) to come up with a series of picture
>checks for the ham radio hobby?

Wow, neat idea.  I wonder if the national leadership (HQ ARRL)
would be willing to look into that.
From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QRP radio kits - where to find them?
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:28:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


Does anyone know of a good source for QRP radio kits. A friend of mine
recently became licenced and would like to find a simple QRP transceiver
(or Tx/Rx) kit to build - the cheaper and simpler the better. Please email
replies if possible. Thanks,

Bob Atkins  KA1GT

===============================================================
Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
===============================================================
From: v111qheg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (P.VASILION)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Hornet TB-1000 Tribander traps
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Does anyone on the net know how the traps on the Hornat TB-1000 yagi
can be disassembled? The traps are of newer design (13" long, 1.5" diam) and
are not secured with hardware. Thanks for any information. Hpe c u in NAQP,
es 73, de Peter KB2NMV
From: RSTACKHOUSE@JAGUAR.ESS.HARRIS.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AMIGA Satellite Tracking Program -- SatTrack V3.0
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:58:00 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Version 3.0 of Amiga SatTrack 3.0 can be found on ftp site listed           
wuarchive.wustl.edu                                                         
                                                                            
New files for directory /archive/systems/amiga/incoming/utils -             
-rw-r--r--  1 ftp          1054 Jan  9 08:29 SatTrack_V3_0.README           
-rw-r--r--  1 ftp        380292 Jan  9 08:26 SatTrack_V3_0.lha              
                                                                            
                                                                            
                                                                            
SatTrack  A satellite tracking program.  Allows for selection of a database 
          that can contain up to 1000 satellites.  Tracks satellites on a   
          graphics display of the world.  All graphics are IFF compatible   
          allowing for loading of display to standard painting program.     
          Allows for input of satellite information using either standard   
          data format or by simple user input.  All operations use standard 
          windows and menus.  SatTrack has a simulation mode that allows for
          predictions in the future.  Operates on Workbench 1.3 and 2.0.    
          This is version 3.0. SatTrack is keyware, see the registration   
          file for more information.  SatTrack is fully operational until   
          the expiration time is reached.                                   
          NEW: Besides several modifications and enforcer hit corrections,  
          SatTrack has added a FIND command as well as an OVERHEAD view     
          display which allows for easier viewing.                          
          Author:  Randy Stackhouse, N4RTL
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: geertj@ica.philips.nl (Geert Jan de Groot)
Subject: Re: Repeater in Europe
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:01:18 GMT

bs_s511@ceres (Yeghiazarian A) writes:

>Is there any one who knows or has a list of repeaters in Europe for
>144/430 MHz FM?
>If any one has this information I would appreciate them contacting me.

Have you configuration checked. Email doesn't work.

Ask the RSGB. They keep lists in cooperation with other amateur clubs

73, Geert Jan
From: rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: [Re:] UHF ham band in Washington, DC, area
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:09:28 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology
	formerly National Bureau of Standards
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


The first suggestion to find people who operate on the various UHF (and VHF)
ham bands in an area is to look at the scores of the various contests. They
list who worked which band.

For a specific amswer, I know the following hams to work on 902 and 1296 MHz:
		WA3NZL, W3IP, W3ZZ and I'm sure K2UOP/4 is also active.
	I think that you will note that K1RZ/3 also works these bands.
	Don't take the /3 and /4 seriously, these people have lived in this
	area for a long time, decades in the case of K2UOP/4.

Hope this helps,   73,  Bob  W3OTC
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jma@ebt-inc.UUCP (Jim Apple)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for mods to FT-101ZD to support WARC bands
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:30:09 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


	Are they any mods / products that I could use to add 17 and 30
meters to my 101ZD ??

Thanks




 Jim Apple   (WB1DOG)            EBT Inc.
 jma@ebt.com                     One Richmond Square
 uunet!ebt-inc!jma               Providence, RI 02906
                                 401-421-9550
From: jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu (Jeff Hite )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DJ-580 soft case
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:10:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1isgnaINN7r2
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu

In article <1Py7wB2w165w@tsoft.net> bbs.railroad@tsoft.net (Mike Leland)  
writes:
> jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu (Jeff Hite ) writes:
> 
> > I'm looking for a soft case for my 580, it's part# ESC-17 and have not  
> > been able to find one thru the dealers I usually purchase from. Anyone  
> > know of a store that has any or dealers that stock alot of the Alinco  
> > accessories?
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff Hite	KF7SZ
> > jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu
> 
> 
> Well if you call any of the many HROs I am sure they have them in 
> stock... if not try AES or someother place like it.... they cost about
> 20.00.... TTYL!!!
> 
> 
> MIKE LELAND REDWOOD CITY, ca KD6PIW(Politics in Washington?)
> 
> --
> Mike Leland (bbs.railroad@tsoft.net)

I tried HRO and AES and they were on backorder...Lee  
(ccrafton@daewoo.math.indiana.edu) pointed me at Radio Center USA which  
had them in stock. Thanks to everyone who replied!
Jeff Hite	KF7SZ
jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: Jeff.Anderson@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeffrey Brian Anderoson)
Subject: 5100 reviews???
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:08:14 GMT


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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Ham transmissions-a hypothetical situation
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:33:37 GMT

> Here's a hypothetical situation I've been wondering about:
> 
> Say I'm a ham operator (hopefully in the next few months!) and I have a
> favorite frequency (not claiming it of course) that I like to conduct
> QSO's on.  My friends have shortwave receivers and I tell them to tune
> to that frequency if they want to hear me on the radio.
> 
> My transmissions are not meant to be one way, for them, so does this
> violate the no one-way broadcasting rule?
> 
> I'm conducting normal QSO's in this situation, not acknowelding that
> my friends are listening (saying hello to them, etc.).
> 
> Is this legal??

I don't see why not.  This is just a virtual sort of shack visit.  As
long as you're having regular QSO's, and not broadcasting information
meant solely to be received by non-hams, you should be OK.  Perhaps
when your friends see you on the air, they will also be inspired to
get their ham tickets!  You're definitely not broadcasting; your
two-way QSO's are your proof of that.  Go ahead and try it...once you
get your license, of course!  And there should even be a legitimate
way of acknowledging your friends if you know they are listening.
Perhaps you could make conversation during a QSO about how you have
some friends with shortwave radios who might be listening...the other
ham will be happy to hear about how you're introducing your friends to
ham radio, and your friends might be more excited to hear you telling
somebody about them than if you were talking directly to them!

> Which takes me to another more unsusual question:
> 
> Have amateur operators ever receiver reception reports from regular
> shortwave listeners?
> 
> A long time ago I was actually tempted to do this (send a reception report
> to a ham I heard on the air) but the signal faded before I could hear
> the address he was giving.

You've basically answered your question yourself.  Of course hams
sometimes receive SWL QSL cards.  Although I don't think that I've
ever received one personally, we have a few of them up in the Columbia
University ARC shack, along with all the ham QSL cards.  Sometimes you
can find out that you've been getting out to places you never heard
of!  And as always when you receive a QSL card, if it's not too
expensive, QSLing them back is the courteous thing to do.

> I know these questions are a bit strange but I thought this group could
> use something to liven things up- the 430 Mhz/repeater debate thread was
> starting to wear thin. :-)

Your questions aren't strange at all.  Just don't try asking them on
your local 430 MHz closed repeater :-).
	-Steve
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: very little
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 04:22:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.133936.1@ttd.teradyne.com> rice@ttd.teradyne.com writes:
>In article <1993Jan02.061920.7115@ssc.com>, tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec30.114623.1@ttd.teradyne.com> rice@ttd.teradyne.com writes:
>>>
>>>That's not what I said. What I said was that any Ham has the right by law
>>>to transmit on any frequency for which he is liscensed. Period. The repeater
>                                                                   -----------
>>>operator has the right to turn off the machine. Period. 
>  ----------------------------------------------
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> Let me see if I have this straight (!).........     :)
>> 
>> I get my 440 MHz link set up, and get a coordinated frequency from
>> the local coordination council.  Everything works fine, until one
>> day YOU show up and start transmitting there.
>> 
>> And *I* have to turn off my gear??
>> 
>> I don't think so!
>> 
>Read what I wrote. You don't HAVE to DO anything. But if you don't want 
>the station to be repeated, you have the right to not do so.
>
>But if the frequency is not in use at the time you have no exclusive right
>to say who can or cannot transmit on that frequency. And nothing in part
>97 implies that you have that right.
>

Nope, you're wrong.  Otherwise, why would we need coordination?

>
>


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From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:34:47 GMT
Subject: Re: DRAKE TR-7(A) XCVR
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:

>Has anybody out there owned or used the Drake TR-7(A) xvcr???

>I'd like to know it's good and bad points & How would it compare
>in performance to rigs like the Icom 751A & Kenwood TS-830s..

Good points:

- Excellent phase noise and dynamic range.  (Better than all but the
  best modern rigs.)
- Good IF filtering.  Many modern rigs with fancy IF shift/passband tuning
  have degraded dynamic range close in.
- Both analog and digital dials.
- Receives down to 10 kHz or so.
- Rugged transmitter.  Rated 100% duty factor with optional fan.
- Ditto the power supply.
- Easy-to-use user interface.  (You don't feel like you're operating
  a computer.)
- Large plug-in boards are easy to work on.  (No surface mount parts.)
- 1.8-30 MHz transmit coverage by cuting one trace on motherboard.
- Low price.

Bad points:

- Non-synthesized inner loop causes slight frequency drift on warmup.
  (Typically 100 Hz or so.)
- For the same reason, there is no keypad frequency entry.
- No memories or other microprocessor bells and whistles.
- Includes Receiver and Transmitter offset tuning.  But to work split
  more than 10 kHz or so you need the optional external VFO.
- Bigger and heavier than many modern rigs.  (Especially the power supply.)

Bottom line:  If you can live without the "bells and whistles" it's a
great-performing rig.

AL N1AL
From: blw7149@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brandon Lee White)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Exam dates?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 12:44:15 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

Can someone please post upcoming exam dates?  In particular, I'm interested in
sessions in or near Austin, Tx.  

Thanks a lot,

Brandon
KB5WDR
From: bmehlman@trirex.COM (Ben Mehlman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Private Repeaters
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:15:15 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Forgetting about who did what to who for a minute, think about this:

I am a somewhat active ham although I tend to go through phases of  
greater and less interest.  I use repeaters on occasion but I am not  
an every-day repeater personality.  Therefore I do not have a  
high-powered, expensive vhf or uhf rig in my car.

I generally carry my Tempo HT (1.5 watts on 2M) or my Tempo mobile  
rig (10 w on 2M).  The HT has PL, but it is an old board which is  
xtal controlled on one subtone.  The mobile needs to be opened up to  
change the tone.

This is modest equipment, but I do think that it ought to serve for  
occasional use, especially in emergencies.  RF and audio-wise it does  
work fine.

But when you've got 5 repeaters within range and 4 of them are closed  
it doesn't make me feel very good, OR very safe...

I think it's to all our benefit to have as many open repeaters as  
possible.  To this end I suggest two things:

1 - Open repeaters should be coordinated ahead of closed repeaters,  
unless there are more open machines than closed ones.

2 - Simplex frequecies should NOT be used for repeaters.  They should  
be left for simplex use.

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From: Jeff.Anderson@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeffrey Brian Anderoson)
Subject: Yaesu 5100 reviews??
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:53:45 GMT


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