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From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Centralized timing service
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:58:36 GMT
Organization: Sony Microsystems Corp, San Jose, CA

I'll have to admit that I'm not familiar with the deep details of
QuickTime, the X Synchronization Extension and other "multimedia"
systems, so if this is something already available, then all the
better.

One of the problems I've seen with multimedia systems is that they
provide support for developing "all-in-one" programs, but not really
for dealing with multiple synced programs.

As an example, let's say I have a program that can display graphics
along with a digital soundtrack.  Now, let's say I have a video camera
and display that I can control from my computer, and I want to be able
to display "pictures" in sync with my graphics/sountrack program.

One way to deal with this is to develop my own program to display the
graphics/soundtrack so that I can more easily sync to the data.  This
may require quite a bit of work, and it may not really do what I want.

Also, there's an additional problem of how to deal with programming
systems that need different kinds of event loops, as well as those that
aren't event driven at all.  For example, trying to write such a
program using X for graphics, something else for video control
(assuming VEX isn't available and XV doesn't control my device), and
something else for synced sound would be a mess -- doable, but a mess.

It seems to me that the ultimate would be to have a centralized timing
service.  Such a service would allow the user to create named "clocks",
which programs could attach to to get timing events.

With this type of service, one could write programs to add capabilities
to existing programs, or build entire multimedia systems out of
separate programs.  In the example above, I could write a separate
program that would control my video camera and display in sync with the
other program.  I would only have to set the cue points ("hits") and
ask the timing service to tell me when one of these times has occurred,
or when the program has paused, or restarted, or reset, or changed time
base, or whatever.

A real advantage to this is that it would not require continually
extending existing programming systems to add new capabilities.  Another
is that hardware-specific additions could be made without having to
revamp the entire subsystem.
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Subject: Re: Buying a multimedia system
Reply-To: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Organization: CEBAF
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:32:07 GMT

In article <BuE1qL.7AK@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tevonian@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
(Pete Tevonian) writes:
> dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley) writes:
> 
> 
> >If your decision is to buy an Amiga, I do warn you again that you may
> >You may also want to look at possibly getting an Amiga 2000.. maybe with
> >an accelerator... or possibly the 3000T (I haven't heard recent prices
> >of it in a while).
> > 
> 
> Latest I saw, (this past weekend in an Amiga World mag of unkown date),
> the 3000T with 5M RAM, 120M HD and 28(?)mHz 68040 was going for $5,995
> 
> 
> --Pete Tevonian


Those were Manufactured Suggested Retail Price.... The street price was
quoted to me by a dealer for around $4000.00.....
 
NEWSFLASH!!
 
  From now through October 31, 1992, purchasers of a Commodore Amiga
3000 will receive a *FREE* CDTV system
and networking hardware/software.  Ask your local dealer about this promotion.
 
  And if you don't know what CDTV is, go ahead and ask! (It's something
like Phillip's CD-I machine, but this can be converted into a full blown
computer if you buy a keyboard and external drive)
 
  This promotion will provide your 3000 with a CD ROM player!
From: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Buying a multimedia system
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:41:21 GMT
Reply-To: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Organization: CEBAF



Ok... to answer a few of your questions, true, the Mac may be able to
handle MOD files.. but just remember that they can only be created on
Amigas, and always have been.
 
The Toaster your dealer mentioned was much more expensive than I have
ever seen(maybe he was talking about some sort of standalone system w/Amiga)
 
The new Amigas are scheduled to come out this year.. Commodore does not
release information on new machines until they actually show the
machines(i.e. this weekend in Pasadena).
 
The Mac was never built to multitask.. only it's software was... The
Amiga's software and hardware from the beginning were created FOR multitasking.

The smaller Amiga base in your area may be true... In my area, for
example, there are about 4 or 5 Amiga dealers, yet only Sears carries
the Mac(to my current knowledge for my area).
 
As stated, the Amiga base is hovering between 3.5 and 4 million
installed systems IN USE.  Over 50% of professional desktop video
producers use Amiga's for their work.

The Amiga IS here to stay for quite some time.

The Amiga's video boards(third party) CAN be used with other software!!!
I don't know WHO told you something as outrageous as that. And when you
install a video board, you STILL have the Amiga's native video chips on
motherboard.... You don't lose those.

From what i've seen, the Amiga's animation is much faster and
less-jagged than the Mac and IBM.... The Mac just seems to be too jerky
and unstable.
 
Like I said, call Commodore at 1-800-66-AMIGA for info to be sent to
you, and call NewTek(forget their 800#) for info on their products.

The part of Video Toaster that does those great animations is a software
package called Lightwave 3d.
 
If you would like me to, I could whip up a small video tape of various
Amiga anim's I have seen and created so you can see what an unexpanded
machine (Amiga 500 -> $399) can do! (leave me E-mail for details)
From: huitema@mitsou.inria.fr (Christian Huitema)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: DECstation audio/XMedia
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:31:51 GMT
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France

In article <1992Sep9.123549.21521@PA.dec.com>, neideck@nestvx.enet.dec.com (Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz) writes:
> Christian Huitema writes (forgot where):
> 
> >>Except one little detail. The first thing that "audioserver" does is to try to
> >>connect to the local X server, and it aborts if it cannot.
> 
> No. I checked and it never connects to X in it's whole lifetime.
> 

I stand corrected. I was fooled by the "cannot connect to server foobar:0"
message displayed by the "play" command when it cannot get in touch with the
audio server. The identification "foobar:0" looks very much like an X-Window
interface identication, but it is in fact that of the audio server.

> Apart from that, I will try to do my best...

So we will abstain from making more noise -).

Christian Huitema
From: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Buying a multimedia system
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:19:10 GMT
Reply-To: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Organization: CEBAF


No. The reason Video Toaster is mentioned so frequently is because its
one of the best products (especially for its under $5000 complete system
cost) available today for ANY production studio.  However, the Toaster
is only one of many Video and Animation products.  

For Video, there's software, and software/hardware combinations.
    - Deluxe Video III
    - Deluxe Productions
    - The Director
    - etc.

One hardware key for VIDEO (processing/editing) is the genlock.. an
inexpensive little device for the Amiga that allows you to overlay live
video on computer graphics, or vice versa.  Then you have the various
brands of Time Base Correctors, Editing Suites, etc.

For animation (not necassarily video production) you have VERY GOOD
products at inexpensive prices such as Vista Pro 2.0, Imagine(one of the
best), Art Department Professional, Scenery Animator, Scenery Generator,
Genesis, Deluxe Paint IV, DigiPaint 3, and many MANY MANY other
products. Just pick up an Amiga magazine sometime... they even have some
Amiga magazines dedicated to only video or graphics.
From: sbanksmg@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: MIDI tutorial system
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:08:28 GMT

To anyone interested,

I am doing a final year project on an interactive MIDI tutorial system
(Multimedia Application) that will embrace the following IMA standards:

	MIDI 1.0 Detailed Specification Version 4.1
	MIDI Machine Control 1.0
	General MIDI - Level 1
	MIDI Show Control 1.0
	Standard MIDI Files 1.0

I'm looking for any GOOD ideas to help me during this research phase.  If
there's anyone doing something similar, or if you're merely interested in
the project idea, please comment.

Thanks

Mark
sbanksmg@cc.curtin.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.edu
From: seksie@cs.montana.edu (Robin Winslett)
Subject: Looking for multimedia introductory tape
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:06:44 GMT

I am looking for a videotape of a presentation on multimedia that I
saw on TV a few years ago (I think!).  It was aimed at Computer Literacy
types and featured Bill Gates as a narrator/lecturer.  Has anyone seen
this tape and know where I can get a copy?  I'd like to use it in a class
I teach and I need to find a copy in the next few weeks.

Please e-mail me because I don't read this group regularly.

Thanx,

Robin
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Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: berger@sfc.sony.com (Bob Berger)
Subject: Re: Centralized timing service
Keywords: n
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:11:37 GMT

(Hi David! come visit some time, I have a copy of what is mentioned below)

The most recent (Sept-Oct 1992) issue of The X Journal discusses this
to a certain extent in Dan Heller's column "X Communications:
Mutlimedia applications under the X Window System". He doesn't really
answer your questions just restates them :-)

There are some folks doing what looks to be important work in the area
of "Meta-scheduling for Distributed Continuous Media" at the Computer
Science Division, EECS Dept. U of CA at Berkeley under the direction
of David P. Anderson (anderson%charming.Berkeley.EDU@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU?).

Some papers are available in icsi-ftp.Berkeley.EDU:/pub/dash

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Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: bdisney@cwis.unomaha.edu (Bridget Anne Disney)
Subject: Re: Multimedia Degrees
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:28:57 GMT

You might try checking the colleges of education.

/Bridget
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: Buying a multimedia system
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:07:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.175412.422@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley) writes:
>
> Does anyone else find it so strange that people say Mac/Multimedia
>GREAT! Lot's of software!  YET, the only thing that I have ever seen
>mentioned is QuickTime..??? (AmigaVision's direct competitor)

I think AmigaVision's direct competitor is HyperCard, SuperCard,
MacroMind Director......
From: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se (Brad Steele,xt-dkb,x1209)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: MPEG
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:07:55 GMT
Reply-To: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article 13693@cl.cam.ac.uk, ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
>In article <XNX60YF@zelator.in-berlin.de> leo@zelator.in-berlin.de (Stefan Hartmann) writes:
>>BTW, there is a free player called MPEGXING.LZH which works on the PC
>>under win3.x
>
>.... but not with some popular graphics cards, in my experience.
>
>>email to: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de
>
>I did! I'm sure it's excellent software, but it doesn't work on my machine.

Works like a charm with mine.  Incredibly smooth, not one problem.
---
Brad
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: lagemaat@cs.utwente.nl (Jeroen van de Lagemaat)
Subject: Re: calling scripts from C/C++ ?
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:11:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.023255.10200@iti.gov.sg>, ronniele@iti.gov.sg (Ronnie Lee Wah Sheun) writes:
|> Can anyone tell me if there are any multimedia software packages
|> that allows me to design scripts (sound, video, animation, etc)
|> which can be called by a C or C++ program?  The platform is
|> preferably PC (Windows) but Macintosh will do too.  Thanks!
|> 
|> Ronnie Lee
|> Information Technology Institute, Singapore
|> Email: ronniele@iti.gov.sg
|> 
`

I like to get the same info, please post replies in this group and Ronnie could
you make a summary?


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Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: swix@prism.gatech.edu (SWIX,SCOTT R)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Video in a Window (in OS/2)
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:03:30 GMT


IBM offers three products that are capable of displaying video in 
OS/2 windows.  These are:

   1) IBM PS/2 TV
      This is an external box that chains between the graphics adapter
      and the display.  It accepts various video inputs as well as 
      contains an on-board cable decoder.  Speakers for audio are 
      part of the box (about 12"x9"x2" perhaps?)  It is controllable
      via software (for Windows and OS/2), communicating via the 
      keyboard.  It takes no slots, does good video - no chroma
      keying, video in a rectangle only - and is cheap.  
     
      Current price : About $399 from the 1-800 IBM Direct number

   2) IBM M-Motion Video Adapter/A
      Very similar to the DVA-4000, this adapter works with VGA and
      XGA in modes up to 640x480, and provides lots of video functions-
      multiple sources for video and line audio, NTSC and PAL support
      in both base and Y/C modes, video attributes control (brightness,
      color, contrast, etc), image capture and restore, graphics and 
      video region protect, freeze frames, digital audio capture and
      playback, etc.

      Software support is via the IBM M-Control Program/2 Version 2.0,
      which includes DOS, Windows 3.0, Windows MMEs, OS/2 1.3, and
      a commitment to OS/2 2.0 MMPM.

      Cost : About $1399 via the 1-800 number, and another $200 for 
             the software development kit containing material for 
             all the OS's supported.

   3) ActionMedia II (DVI)
      This has been discussed before.  The DVI based boards will
      capture and playback digital video, but they can also run in 
      a video pass-through mode for video in a window.  They have
      provided OS/2 support for quite a while, and recently 
      announced support for OS/2 MMPM.

      Cost : I really don't know what it is now.

Obviously, please check the IBM phone order center to the real 
prices, since there are special prices from that source versus 
the standard IBM rep order process.  Also obtain the format
product information for all the function details.


SCOTT R. SWIX
IBM Multimedia Product Development
and Georgia Tech
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From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Buying a multimedia system
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:27:47 CDT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Sep4.234254.11508@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP) writes:
> In article <1992Sep4.182640.16397@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley) writes:
> >
> >   1. I see your concern with the smaller Amiga base of users(compared
> >to the Mac).  Currently, there are approximately 9 million Macintosh
> >users versus 3.5 million Amiga Users.  However, it is a fact that over
> >50% of desktop video platforms today are Amiga based.  You may have
> >heard of a device called the Video Toaster. It is available to Mac and
> >IBM users, but is Amiga based.  If you were to purchase one for a Mac or
> >IBM, all you are actually purchasing is an Amiga 2000 with the Video
> >Toaster installed in it, and you are connecting the Amiga to the Mac/IBM
> >through the parallel port for user control.  The Video Toaster, however,
> >was developed for the Amiga computer.
> >
>
> Except Video Toaster, is there any other good video or graphics hardware
> for Amiga? I ask that because people keep repeating again and again. Is
> this the only one for Amiga?

It would be hard to name a piece of hardware for the Amiga that *isn't*
video of graphics related.  And yes, many are very good.  (Such things
as the Impact Vision/24, DCTV, HAM-E, etc. all come to mind, and there
are many others.)

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From: bell@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: Multimedia conferencing
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:17:11 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, QMW
X-Xxdate: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:02:17 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7

Multimedia conferencing

I would like to think that TCP/IP (ie MacTCP) could be used to squirt
QuickTime format audio/video over the ethernet from Macintosh to
Macintosh (all be they very fast and hardware assisted Macs)  I have yet
to get involved in the details of such a task - does anyone have
experiences of using MacTCP to shift QuickTime in real-time????

dave
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP)
Subject: Re: Buying a multimedia system
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:50:37 GMT

In article <Bu39Mn.2Gx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tevonian@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Pete Tevonian) writes:
>
>I don't believe that you get NTSC output standard in the Amiga 2000 or
>3000 any more. The 1000's had it, but I believe you now need a Toaster
>or DCTV like device to get NTSC. I may be wrong about this (I don't have
>one in front of me) but none of the 2000's or 3000's we used last year had 
>NTSC output directly from the machine.
 
Yes, you have to spend $25 to buy the modulator for A2000 or A3000 if
you want NTSC output. However, it is very cheap.
 
>The DCTV is 21bit, if I remember correctly and does do a good job of
>rendering NTSC output. The original poster was looking for animation
>straight from Hard Drive. I don't think the DCTVs can do that, at least not
>without some more help (either software or hardware). In my computer
>animation courses last year, we were limted by the 9M RAM in the 3000's we
>were using. 
 
With ShowMaker or MediaMaker + DCTV or HAM-E plus, you can play a full
screen 21 bit animation + sound directly off your hard drive. I think
this is what QuickTime can't handle. Anyway, there are over 20 different
graphics cards for Amiga. (range from 18bit to 32bit) eg. OpalVision, it
bundles with the world 1st 24 bit ACTION game, (yes! action) King of
Karate.

>On the Video Toaster -- I think NewTek raised the price of the toaster
>to somewhere near $2500 last year, did they not? This may be a list 
>price, however, and it may be had for less. The Toaster is a wonderful
>piece of equpiment though. If you plan to expand your system later, it
>may be worth it to buy a 2000 (The Toaster won't fit in a 3000) now and
>use a DCTV until you get up funds for a Toaster.
 
You can buy Video Cozzy to connect Toaster with A3000. It is something
like external Video slot. So, you can have two video slot. One in A3000
and one in Video Cozzy.

>>   7. Lastly, I do warn you that on September 11th-13th there is a World
>>of Commodore show in Pasadena California.  There, Commodore is expected
>>to release their latest machines, AmigaDOS 3.0, and something called the
>>AA chipset, which is an enhanced Amiga custom chip set that will
>>eventually be the new standard for Amiga's (24bit graphics, CD quality
>>sound, etc.)  Even if you are not interested in the new Amiga stuff (the
>>older machines will be compatible with it), wait until after the show to
>>purchase your Amiga.  After the show, prices will probably drop for the
>>older machines.
>
>This will be interesting to hear about.

I think the most excited one is EMPLANT. It is a color MAC II Emulator
for Amiga.
Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.os.ms-windows.win32
From: ebergman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eric Bergman-Terrell)
Subject: Multi Track Tape Recorder?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 14:03:15 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer,comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Multi-Track Recording using MM Sound Cards?
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Keywords: 

Folks:

I am considering writing a multi-track recorder for MS Windows 3.1.  However,
before getting started, I need answers to the following questions:

1.	Can sound cards (soundblaster, etc) play and record at the same time.
	This is important - a musician would want to record one track, and
	then record another track while listening to the first track.

2.	Has a multi track recorder already been written?  Is it any good?
	Is it shareware?  

Thanks in advance,


Eric Bergman-Terrell

ebergman@nyx.cs.du.edu


Newsgroups: comp.multimedia
From: andrew@calvin.dgbt.doc.ca (Andrew Patrick)
Subject: addresses dropped from DVI Mailing List
Summary: addresses removed due to bouncing mail
Organization: Communications Research Centre, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:33:43 GMT

The following addresses have been removed from the DVI Mailing List due
to repeated problems with bouncing mail:

550 jmakela@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juhani Makela)... User unknown

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Address family not supported by protocol family

If this affects you, or someone you know, then you should contact
"dvi-list-request@calvin.dgbt.doc.ca".

For more information about the DVI Mailing List, a discussion group for
Intel/IBM's DVI (ActionMedia) system, contact
"dvi-list-request@calvin.dgbt.doc.ca".

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