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From: lionel@handw0.hgo.dec.com (Chan Chun Kit Lionel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Chinese New Year
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:39:50 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1993Jan5.143942.13990@odin.corp.sgi.com>, labson@borneo.corp.sgi.com (Joel Labson) writes:
|> I'd like to know all the ANIMALS used to name a year, I know this coming
|> Chinese new year will be the year of the CHICKEN??? also I'd like to
|> know the meaning for each animals????? Thanks Very Much......- joel
|> 
|> -- 

rat, cow, tiger, rabbit, dragon, snake, horse, sheep, monkey, chicken, dog and
pig.

Yes, coming New Year will be chicken.  New Year Day is on 23 Jan 1992.  After
that day, chicken year.

I don't know the exact meaning of them.  We chinese have something called 10
"tin-gon"(cantonese pronounciation) and 12 "dei-chi".  Each Chinese year, we use 1
"tin-gon" and 1 "dei-chi" to represent that year.  Each "tin-gon", "dei-chi"
is a Chinese character and just a "name".  Next year, next "tin-gon" and
next "dei-chi", 60-year is a period.  These 12 animals are another representations
of the 12 "dei-chi".

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From: wscc90r@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Wilson Chiu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: P.R. for HK student in UK??
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:20:50 GMT

Hi there,

Does anyone know how a Honk Kong student can apply for UK recidency?

What's this about HK student who have been in the UK for 10 years can
apply for recidency? Can anyone help with this?

Thanks a lot, Wils 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: alaw@elaine38.stanford.edu (Alvin Law)
Subject: Re: Question of a Last Name
Reply-To: alaw@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
	<1993Jan11.095423.20810@pegasus.com>
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:34:12

wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng) writes:
>Seto comes from the job title of a high govt. official, seto,
>sema, sehung, attorney general, defense minister, don't know
>what sehung does.  Definitely not Japanese.

I think Seto in hiragana is indeed a Japanese last name, something
like "dzor tung" in kanji.  It happens that the romanized
pronunciation (not Japanese pronunciation) rhymes with a Chinese last
name, which can also be spelled as Szeto, Zeto, etc...

Can any Japanese guru confirm/comment this?
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From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: ? Good HK Hotel
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:49:58 GMT

Ill be in HK next week...any suggestions on a good hotel...I like
TST side the best.  I usually stay at the Kowloon (so I can pretend Im
staying at the Pen!)....What are your favorites.

Whats the temperature now?

Thanks!   

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From: afung@world.std.com (Albert K Fung)
Subject: Amateur Radio in HK
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:09:35 GMT

I'd like to get in touch with amateur radio groups in HK, Macau or S. China.
Can somebody help?

My primary interest is in VHF and UHF (particularly in the 1-2 GHz range),
but would welcome any info. you can provide.

Also, are there any clubs/organizations that runs relays or packet radio in
HK, Macau, and S. China?

E-mail would be fine. Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Al Fung
SoftFab International Ltd., Cambridge, MA
Email: afung@SoftFab.COM
From: Anthony.Kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Anthony Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Internet in Hong Kong
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:23:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On <Dec 22 15:20>, Samson Luk of 6:700/1.301@fidonet wrote to Gary Ng:

 SL> What do you mean by cheaper than HKPCUG?!?  Your BBS charge user 
 SL> HK$80.00 per MONTH while HKPCUG charge *NOTHING* except the $2.50 
 SL> per outgoing message for users who only want the e-mail service - 
 SL> users do *NOT* need to join as HKPCUG Member to use e-mail in our 
 SL> BBS.  Users may even send e-mails for FREE via other FidoNet BBS 
 SL> in HK and HKPCUG provides routing of e-mails to/from Internet as 
 SL> a courtesy to ALL FidoNet BBS in HK as well as in Asia.

Myself and other active users are using the services of the HKPCUG
occasionally.  Thanks for your efforts and $.


      BR, Anthony Kwan - Environment + IT Net
Internet: anthony.kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org

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From: Dennis.Yan@launchpad.unc.edu (dennis yan)
Subject: need data on compute prices in hlk/china
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:57:31 GMT



I need some data for my marketing project in school.  I would appreciate
any help in locating pricing info on 286/386 systems in Hk/China.  Also,
which system is more popular?
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From: pchan@snowy.csd.sgi.com (Pamela Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Immigration Question
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:02:04 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


I have a legal question and I wonder if any of you from Hong Kong
might know the answer:

My parents had immigrated to the US 3 years ago. Since my dad still
has business in HK, my parents had been flying back and forth between
HK and US during the past 3 years. On the average they visited the US
once a year and stayed one month each time. 

Last year, my dad got tired of it and they got a document called
"re-entry permit" from INS. This document is valid for two years.

Does it mean my parents are granted the right to stay aboard for
two years this time? If not, what is the legal way to hold permanent
residency while living aboard for work? 

Thanks.

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From: yyy@engr.LaTech.edu (Yan Y. Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: C.S.K. Old Boys
Date: 10 Jan 1993 10:04:32 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
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I am just wondering if anyone of you went to school at C.S.K. like I did.
Right now I am trying to contact those graduated with me back in 1987.  So if   you know someone in that category, please have him send me a message.  By the   way, if you were not in the same year I was, I still want to hear from you.

Good Luck on whatever you are doing.

Yee Yu -- President of the Form V Student Union 1987 and many more.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: gordon.cheung@analog.com
Subject: Re: Mahjong Game for PC (DOS)
Originator: gordon@apollo
Organization: Analog Devices, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:28:52 GMT

    Speaking of which, anybody tried the Hong Kong MJ out on 
market? From the box, it looks pretty good. Digitize pictures
and nice 3-D view tiles. It even have picture of your opponents. 
I am intested in how well it plays.


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From: cvafygkq@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: I was there!!! (LAN KWAI FONG)
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:02:01 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
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g



     At 11:00pm on New year's ave, i was to meet a bunch of my friends at 
the infamous Lan Kwai Fong area, where we usually hang out to get wasted and
mix with other intoxicated people, itis a place where different culture met
and different drugs change hands. None of them showed up. I couldnt wait
to dive into the "vortex" of people and spray any chosen victims with foam, a
tradition of the place on occasions as such. There were even more people than
X'mas eve. I was hoping they wouldn't impose the 21 yr or older rule in 
certain pubs as they did on x'mas eve to eliminate the crowd. I mean what is 
this? This aint the states! drinking age in HK is 18)
     It was 11:50 and nobody showed up. Once again they released
airplane(chinese term for no show), i wasnt gonna miss the excitement, so i 
pproceeded up the steep block to embrace 1993 with god knows how many other
people. There were people down to the very bottom of the block (the maxim
restarant). I could only make it half way up the block, around  where the very
1st pubs were, there were so much ppeople and so much cops trying to keep
order.
    12:00 am 1993  everyone screamed to the arrival of a new year, of new hope
, new oppurtunities and new immigration possibilities to get out of HK,
I screamed to condemn my friends to rot in hell. The mass of people at the
top (the vortex) went wild,  it was steep, packed and the only thing i can
inhale was beer breath. People tried making their way further up with no
success, at the top drunken people, mostly younger college age peolple
and caucasion were shouting , pushing, popping open chaamapagne and
spraying foam/spaghetti at everyone in sight. Everybody rushed out og the
bar/pubs into the crowd. Some tried to avoid the foam and fell down the steepp
block , and ppeople behind them started falling like dominos, i took a glance
and it was just like a huge sea of people floating around. It was just
hard to see what was going on up there since it was so packed.
    12:15am I tried to make my way down to make a phone call. Shoes were 
everywhere.. people falling down..The casualties were probably hurt in the
midst of all the confusion around this time. After making my caall the cops
were aalready evacuating the people (12:30 aam) ,and stated Lan Kwai Fong
is now out of bounds.  People werent running for their lives or anything,
they were just walking away calmly. So i was shocked to see the no of
people hurt the next day on TV. Then countless ambulances arrived to saave the
lives of people who just wanted to have fun.....
     While watching the news next day i was thinking, what if my friends did
show up? I might have been one of the 20 people who lost their precious lives
on a supposedly joyous occasuion as such. I still gaaves my friends hell
though,
when they called me to see if i was ok.....
From: Anthony.Kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Anthony Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Pt 1/2: SCMP - 1/2/1993
Date: 8 Jan 1993 04:21:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On <Jan 02 17:32>, 92915855 of 6:700/1.300 wrote to All:

 9> From: 92915855@cphkvx.cphk.hk
 9> Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs

Hi, we met in the 3 int'l WYOBs Conference on 22.12.92 on Mount Parish. 
Could you log on my BBS regarding our further promotion of the WYOBAs.  I have
not got your telephone number and I don't wish to send a e-mail to you in HK
via USA.  We have got an e-mail from Kelly Chang before the new year.


      BR, Anthony Kwan - Environment + IT Net
Internet: anthony.kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org

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From: Anthony.Kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Anthony Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Pt 1/2: SCMP - 1/2/1993
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:20:17 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On <Jan 02 17:32>, 92915855 of 6:700/1.300 wrote to All:

 9> From: 92915855@cphkvx.cphk.hk
 9> Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs

Hi, we met in the 3 int'l WYOBs Conference on 22.12.92 on Mount Parish. 
Could you log on my BBS regarding our further promotion of the WYOBAs.  I have
not got your telephone number and I don't wish to send a e-mail to you in HK
via USA.  We have got an e-mail from Kelly Chang before the new year.


      BR, Anthony Kwan - Environment + IT Net
Internet: anthony.kwan@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org

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From: yyy@engr.LaTech.edu (Yan Y. Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Question of a Last Name
Date: 10 Jan 1993 10:37:40 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sleepy.latech.edu
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Good question.  Seto is indeed originated from China, well actually is Mongol   (Northern China).  As I recall, Seto is one of the few last name that has two   vowels in it.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ksbeh@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Tere K.S. BEH)
Subject: Re: Music
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:19:09 GMT

In article <1iotg1INNbpm@aurora.LaTech.edu>, yyy@engr.LaTech.edu (Yan Y. Yu) writes:
> 
> I think Anita Mui, Lessie and Alan Tam are retired already.  The main reason
> fortheir retirement is to avoid the their domination in the music industry.
> Right now I think Jacky Cheung, Andy Lau, Lai Ming and one other guy are the
							 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> hottest  male singers in>  H.K.  Maybe you should try some of their songs.  I
> personally   like Jacky the most.
> 
> Yee Yu

Is his name Aaron Kwok ?  

Thanks.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkcman@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Marcus Man)
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK 
Organization: University of Waterloo Software Liberation Army
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:09:21 GMT

In article <5010018@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, alanip@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Alan M Ip) writes:
> 
> Hi There,
> 
> I am just wondering as a programmer in HK, what is the basic or standard
> salary in the market now.  One of my friend thinking about going back
> and she wants to know the difference between US pay and HK pay range.
> 
> Thanks in Advance
> -alan 
> 

Hi,

	I just came back from HK and I figured out that the starting salary
of a programmer in HK is about $7500 HKD (inexperienced level). The senior
programmer earn about $10000 hkd / month. System analyst earn between 
$15000 to $30000 / month. I get the data from my friends in HK and from the
news paper.

Marcus
U of Waterloo
Canada
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs_cylai@uxmail.ust.hk (Dominic C.Y. Lai)
Subject: Re: Weekly Story of Mr. F
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:30:15 GMT


	What a funny story... er???


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From: dchung@efi.com (Daniel Chung)
Subject: [mutual fund] asking about mutual funds in Taiwan (repost attempt)
Followup-To: null
Originator: chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU
Reply-To: chungdan@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: Electronics For Imaging, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 15:49:20 GMT


     Where do I find out about mutual funds in Taiwan?  For example,
are there magazines that I can look, whether magazines available here
or in Taiwan?  Or, are there addresses, like the equivalent of
Charles Schwab here, where I can write to ask?

     Thanks.  E-mail please.

					Daniel Chung (Mr.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mcleung@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Man C. Leung)
Subject: Re: UNIX Market in Hong Kong
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:43:19 GMT

In article <ALAW.93Jan12110818@elaine29.stanford.edu> alaw@leland.stanford.edu writes:
>alteh@bnr.ca (Alwyn Teh) writes:
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>read the Classified looking for a job.  You will find some openings if
>you go through head hunters, especially those with connections in
>North America and Europe, though the openings will be in sysadmin or
>application development (with RDBMS, for example).

And what is the pay range for these positions?


Man C. Leung
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HKPA.SCENIC - New picture posting....
Date: 11 Jan 1993 05:22:09 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca



HONG KONG PICTURES ARCHIVE - SCENIC COLLECTION (HKPA.SCENIC)
============================================================
NEW PICTURE POSTINGS
====================

Hi everyone. I've just posted a new scenic picture to the Usenet
newsgroups alt.binaries.pictures and alt.binaries.pictures.misc.

The file is also uploaded to the ftp site asia.lcs.mit.edu under the
directory pub/hongkong/hkpa/scenic.

Here's the info on the file...

File:        nt1992c.gif
Description: Skyview of horse race track at Shatin
Resolution:  1012 x 652 x 256 colors
Contributor: Fran(Wa Shing Kan) wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu

Special thanks to Fran for the contribution!

Enjoy!

NOTE:
=====

We need more (Hong Kong related) pictures. Whether it's in the scenic
category or the popstars category. We have ran out of those types of
contributions. If you have a graphics file of a Hong Kong popstars or
scene (and it doesn't matter what graphics format it's in), please let
me know. Please contribute to our archive. Let's keep the archives
growing. Just send me an email and we'll talk. :) Thank you.

Thomas.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ee_hflo@uxmail.ust.hk (Michael Lo Ho Fung)
Subject: Re: Question: Any Commercial Systems in HK?
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:45:01 GMT

Elizabeth Fong Wah Chan (elizabec@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
: Hi, HK netter.

: Could anyone in HK tell me if there are commercially-operated systems
: in HK that provide such services as Netnews, e-mail account subscription,
: etc. to local HK people? As I know that all postings from HK originated
: from one of those universities and technical institutes, what can those
: HKers who don't have accounts in any of these institutes do if they 
: wantto use the above mentioned services?

: Thank you for advice.
	
	This a FAQ in SCHK area. There are at least two site offer e-mail
and usenet new. They Globle Network Communiction Technology and HK PC User
Group. The GNCT charger for $80/per month for files,e-mail & new and charger
for other service. HKPCUG charge for $2.5 / mail.



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From: vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li)
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Calendar
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 05:44:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.114814.752@nuscc.nus.sg> eng10187@nusunix1.nus.sg (LAM TAT FAI) writes:
>I am not sure if 1 Oct is a holiday. But I'm sure that HK does not
>celebrate the National Day of China so soon.
>
Looking at "my" HK calendar, I think the Oct 1 if for mid-autumn festival
(Chong Chau). It's actually the day after the 15th day of the 8th month in the
lunar calendar. It just happens to coincides with PRC's national day.
FYI, ROC (Taiwan)'s national day Oct 10 falls on a Sunday, so I guess HK can
celebrate both! 8-)

-- Vince

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