From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
Subject: Re: More Garbo (long!)
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:01:14 GMT

In article <1400@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> dl1@ukc.ac.uk (Duncan Langford) writes:
>
>I feel it would be useful - and hopefully not a waste of bandwidth - to show
>exactly what the Garbo CD-ROM actually SAYS in its introductory text files
>- all needing modification to display properly on a Mac!
>
>First, Walnut Creek instructions:
>
>> Most of the files on this disc are in zip, zoo, arc, or lzh format.
>> There are programs for extracting from these formats located in pc/arcers,
>> pc/arcutil and mac/arcers.
>
>> Some files are in tar or shar format.  Programs for extracting tar and shar
>> files are in pc/unix/tar4dos.zoo, pc/unix/unshar.zip, mac/unix/tar.sit and
>> mac/unix/unshar.sit
>
>It was this file I spoke of as 'plain wrong' - I meant that a user anxious
>to use an application would not find 'programs for extracting' in
>'mac/arcers'. Oh, they were /there/. But needing extraction. So only if
>the user could first extract the extractor, without help, could they use it.

This is not at Garbo. Walnut Creek wrote that one.

>Which seemed silly?
>
>Would our confused user be helped by the original Garbo help file? Well,
>no, they probably wouldn't; partly because Garbo understandably assumes
>you're downloading via ftp, and partly because the text itself is a
>little confused :

I am sorry that it is still confusing. I have tried and tried again to
clarify this scheme to our Mac users but I guess that it can't be done
using my English knowlegde.

>> FTP and GENERAL INFORMATION
>> ************************************
>
>> Files you find here  are usually Stuffit-files (MacBinary files) (file
>> types  .sit, .bin, .cpt and .sea  are MacBinary, .zoo files are normal
>> binary and .shar files Unix shell archived files).
>
>> You need StuffIt to  unpack .sit  files and Compactor  to  unpack .cpt
>> files. Or use Extractor  to unpack both. All  these   can be found  in
>> mac/arcers dir.  .sea files are   Self-Extracting-Archives that is you
>> can run them (applications) and they extracts.
>
>> MacBinary is sort  of concept that Mac  OS likes the files  to be.  So
>> when these  MacBinary  files are   trasferred as NORMAL    BINARY  the
>> resource and data forks are combined together somewhat  dissimilar way
>> as what happens when  transferring   them as MacBinary.  So   when you
>> can't use MacBinary protocol REMEMBER USE BINARY.
>
>> But if you  can't use MacBinary PROTOCOL  when downloading these files
>> to  your  Mac you must use  a PROGRAM called  MacBinary to prepare the
>> .sit files for Stuffit. But you must use binary  transfer in that case
>> too. You can  find MacBinary program here  in BinHex  format, too.  So
>> when you have downloaded the files as normal binary you  must run them
>> also through this MacBinary program.
>
>
>This information is ALL the Mac purchaser of the Garbo CDROM gets. I'm not
>really surprised at subsequent problems... are you?

Please help me  with this one.  I guess I  am not the  right person to
write the instructions. Any volunteers?

>- duncan

-harri-
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