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From: Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: More questions for StarWars fans
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:15:16 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.

petra@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>Immediately after the Falcon's escape from the Death Star in ANH, Leia says
>that they are being tracked.  If she knows this, why didn't they head for some
>remote location, transfer to a different ship, and then go to Yavin(aside from
>ruining the end of the movie).  There are several reasons for doing things in
>this manner.  The Death Star doesn't threaten to wipe out the Rebellion, Han
>never finds out where the Rebel base is, which is good considering that it is
>known that he has no intention of joining the Rebellion, and, if the Rebels had
>wanted to be nasty, they could have found the tracking device, put it on an old
>ship, sent it into hyperspace and sent the Imperials on a wild goose chase to
>the other side of the galaxy.

Another reason for this might be that Leia new that the fight had to be
brought to a head, so she didn't mind leading the Imperials to Yarvin.
Also, the Imperials could easily have turned their wrath and their
Death Star on any number of innocent planets if they did lose the
falcon - perhaps Leia was trying to occupy them with a legitimate target
for both moral and political reasons.

Sy


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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:59:12 -0500 
From: Martin Thurn <mt2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: A slight error?
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.starwars

  I always thought that when something almost hit Vader, it was after
the "window" was busted open and things were flying every which way.
It's been a long time since I saw that scene, but I think it's
something to go back and check.
 - - Martin Thurn     mt2f+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: awai@rainbow.UWaterloo.ca (Alex Wai)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Where can I get Star Wars collectibles?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:32:41 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

Are there dealers for stuff like old action figures and cards?

I was thinking about collecting these items but I have no idea where I can  
get stuff like this.


Thanks,

Alex
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From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: Topps SW cards and SW fans
Originator: cmgeorg@c00577-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:11:12 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.161954.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:
|>
|>> card #207 (I think) of the fourth series which has
|>> a picture of C3PO.  One version of the card has a metal (?) projection
|>> just behind C3PO in just a way that it looks like C3PO has a penis!
|>
|>I am looking at the OPC card #141. It is the same as Topps #207. I think you
|>have a VERY unhealthy imigination!
|>

You obvioulsy don't have the "penis" version.  I'm not familiar w/ the 
OooPeeChee cards, but the "mistake" may have not made it to that series.
Check out my other reply for an explanation.

-chris

 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
 +      Chris Georgoulias                                                    +
 + North Carolina State University                                           +
 +     cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu                                                  +
 +                                                                           +
 + "Aah... who cares about school...who cares about life...who cares about   +
 +  me.  Not me, that's for sure!  Look!...(punches himself in the head)..   +
 +  ...I just don't care!"                                                   +
 +                                       -Vyvian,  The Young Ones            +                                             
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From: gm1116@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: home alone
Reply-To: gm1116@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 08:57:04 GMT

(I forget his name).  Yes, the movie was horrible, but the actor
is very good, iin my opinion.  At least, I thought his charector in
"My Girl" was played very well.(And I'm not ashamed to say I cried when
he died)

-Gary A Mort
From: pimmel@eagles.cs.wisc.edu (David Pimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:07:28 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


I have a question in this debate.  The article I read about the show didn't
say it was cancelled.  It said it was being placed on hiatus until after Xmas.
This to me meant that ABC wanted the show to work, and so they were trying to
find a new time slot, where it wouldn't  get beat up by a strong CBS line-up in
the 7:00 CST, Monday night slot.  If they have cancelled the show outright
and forever I'd appreciate a reference to when this was stated.  My source was
the TV guide printed in my paper.

Thanks in advance,
-- 

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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: New Star Wars actor.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:50:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

PHT007%SIRIUS.UKC.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk writes:


>Well after reading all the discussions about whether or not there is going to
>be a new movie, I would like to ask a question.
>I seem to remember hearing several months ago on the radio, that the young
>actor McCorley McCaughlen (Or however it is spelt), the kid from Home Alone and
>My Girl, had been signed up for the new star wars movies along with all the old
>actors. My question is did I hear right and basically does anybody know the
>truth?

That's silly.  For one, I doubt any of the old cast (except perhaps Anthony
Daniels) will be in the next set of movies.  Luke and Leia will most
likely be infants, if anything.  It'd be quite a trick to make Alec Guiness
look younger, too.  Yoda might be there, who knows.  Perhaps Frank Oz will
get his voice.

There were NO children in the Star Wars movies thus far, so I don't expect
any in the future either (or course, Caulkin could've played an Ewok kid
or something).  Besides, Caulkin will soon be of the age where actors
shouldn't be seen... remember what happened to Ricky Schroeder?

keith
From: ST201714@brownvm.brown.edu (L. Eduardo Romo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: FTP scripts/Director of new movies
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:38:32 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

This may be a stupid question, but I downloaded the Star Wars Scripts from the
wpi.wpi.edu archive, and they were all, how shall I say, funky looking.
There were no words, just symbols, and some letters. How do I decode them if
they are decoded?  Also, are all the files there like this?  If so, does anyone
 know of any other sites which aren't encoded?  If anyone can help me out, that
 would be great!

OK, a subject has come up regarding who should direct the new movies.  Now, I
don't know the director's name, and don't squirm when you read the name of the
 movie I am using as a reference.  Whoever directed (*SHRIEK*) Highlander II:
The Quickening, seemed to have a good grasp on a style, suitable to Star Wars.
 I don't know the name of the director, and yes it was a bad movie, mainly
because of the story, but the direction was great, IMHO.

         PLease do not refrain from giving me the information I requested
earlier because of the last opinion I had! :)
                            Hast Luego,
                                      L. Eduardo Romo III
                                      st201714@brownvm.brown.edu
From: kim3@husc10.harvard.edu (Jason Y. Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Rumours of upcoming Star Wars films
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:14:31 GMT

jwalsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Jason Walsh  ) writes:
>Did he actually say "this is for something we are working on"???
>(please!please!)  I truly hope it wasn't some cruel joke by this ILM
>employee.  Anymore info would be appreciated.

Oh please. That doesn't mean a thing. For all we know it could be another
Star Tours commercial.

-- 


                              ~  Jason Y. Kim  ~
                                     ~=@=~
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From: cbulmer@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Lucas:  director vs. producer
Reply-To: cbulmer@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:33:51 GMT

In article <1eas4nINNh4g@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.124041.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Nov16.003311.10675@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle) writes:
>>> In article <Yf1IQka00iV1I1ucZT@andrew.cmu.edu> rr2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ryan E. Rasmussen) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Wars films.  Who does anyone think would serve as an adequate director
>>>>for the prequel trilogy? 
>>> 
>>> Who wants to see Philip Noyce direct one of these?  I thought Patriot Games
>>> had the best direction of any movie I saw this year. 
>
>>> Of course I'd be happy with Robert Zemeckis as well.
>>
>>No no no no no no!  "Who Framed Obi-Wan Kenobi"?!?  Please.  Zemeckis is good
>>at what he does, but I don't think that what he does is good for SW.
>>
>>I would like to see Peter Weir (WITNESS, DEAD POETS),
>>                    Renny Harlin (DIE HARD 2),
>>                    or the return of Irvin Kershner!!
>>		    How 'bout Frank Oz?
>>		    Heck -- I'd rather see Danny DiVito than Zemeckis!!!
>
>	I've got to agree on Zemeckis - he's great with light-hearted fantasy,
>but directing a serious movie, I don't know.
>
>	How about Nick Meyer (STAR TREK 2 & 6), at least for the first one?
>His ST movies were the best of the bunch, showing him to be good with the sf
>elements and (not unimportantly) one of the most important things he did in
>those is to bring back familiar characters the way we remember them while at
>the same time introducing new characters (Carol & David Marcus, Saavik, Chang,
>Valerus) who don't take a back seat.  The fact that he quite clearly enjoys
>doing space battles is a plus too :).  He'd probably be a good choice to get
>the first trilogy established on firm ground.
>
>							-Jay
>  
>
 I totally agree. Nick Meyers ST films were the best of the lot. He would be
a great director for the first trilogy as he is experienced in science fiction
and enjoys good space battles. He also keeps good continuity(IN ST II The Wrath
of Khan, he got the idea of using Khan be going over all the shows in the
orginal series) and knows what picky fans.(ST fans are the most picky SF fans
around; myself included!)
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Subject: Re: Lucas: director vs. producer
From: Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:21:42 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov16.003311.10675@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle) says:
>
>In article <Yf1IQka00iV1I1ucZT@andrew.cmu.edu> rr2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ryan E.
>Rasmussen) writes:
>>
>>Wars films.  Who does anyone think would serve as an adequate director
>>for the prequel trilogy?

    One person we definately don't need doing Star Wars is old Tim Burton.
'Nuff said.

                                     -Ed

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:40:16 -0500 
From: "Ryan E. Rasmussen" <rr2y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Red Tails

Does anyone know anything about Red Tails?  This is supposedly Lucas'
next project after Young Indy (which we know has been cancelled by ABC),
and is about a black fighter pilot squadron in World War II.  I first
heard of it about a year-and-a-half ago but have since heard nothing. 
Perhaps Red Tails is a cover for episode I, a la Blue Harvest.

Ryan Rasmussen
From: GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
Date: 21 Nov 92 22:51:33 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

YES!!!  I couldn't be happier after hearing this great news!

I watched a few episodes of this show last season but they were mostly very
big yawners.  Any TV show has  an automatically limited budget and I am so
glad that Lucas won't have to work under these restraints anymore.  He can
go back to movies where the budget grows in proportion to the audience (and the
Star Wars audience is *very* big!).  Lucas had said that he won't start working
on the Star Wars films until he is done with Young Indy and now every Star Wars
fan's prayers have been answered!!  Thank you ABC!!!
                                      -------Eric Sansoni
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: cbulmer@mta.ca
Subject: Archives
Reply-To: cbulmer@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:47:30 GMT

 I'm new to this telnetting business so this si probably a stupid question.
I keep hearing about this Star Wars archive. I would really like to get into
it but how? It keeps coming up with a login which I don't have. I try the
FTP symbol but then it wants a password. Please help(I really want to see
some of those .gif files).  
                                Thanks.
From: John.Murray@launchpad.unc.edu (John Murray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Bantha Trax/Revenge of the Jedi
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service


Well
     Is there anyone out there who was a member of a Star Wars
Fan Club ...many years ago...and got their newsletter "Bantha Tracks" ?

I still have some or all of the issues that I have, when I dig them 
up, if anyone is interested in seeing them, I can photocopy them
for you (Unless this is illegal due to copyright laws)

Also, they sent out a patch to members before ROTJ, and it is 
labeled "Revenge of the Jedi" as...this is what they were originally
going to title it.  

Does this patch hold any rare value ?  I am willing to sell it if
someone is interested.

Keywords: 


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From: akhil@stokes.ae.utexas.edu (Akhil Vidwans)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: A slight error?
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:14:40 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Organization: CFD Lab, Dept ASE-EM, University of Texas at Austin


This has bugged me for some time now. In the
LS duel in TESB, when Vader causes pieces of
machinery to fly at Luke, one of the pieces
misses its target and goes toward Vader
instead who moves out of the way. Now, if
he was controlling it with the Force, all
he had to do was to deflect it away right?

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From: 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Topps Star Wars Cards (Was: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW)
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:24:03 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <cf2z4d200WBM460FpZ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Robert Alan Danforth <rd2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>  
>>An interesting card to look for I hear (I've seen it, but I don't 
>>own it myself) is card #207 (I think) of the fourth series which has
>>a picture of C3PO.  One version of the card has a metal (?) projection
>>just behind C3PO in just a way that it looks like C3PO has a penis!  I
>>believe this was 'painted' out of the card, so another version exists
>>without this.  Does anybody know if this shot was from the movie and if
>>the card with the projection or without the projection is the 
>>original shot?
> 
> i have both versions of this card.  according to a price guide i have, the
> "obscene" version goes for about $15.  On the obscene version, the metal
> projection is airbrushed in (so i doubt it's in the movie.)  On the "corrected"
> version, they only shortened it, but it's still there.  if you have card 207,
> look carefully at the region in question.  it's still there, but they toned it
> down so that it's hard to notice.  on the uncorrected version, you can't miss
> it.  it's at least a foot long.
> 
	If you want to know exactly what 3PO's part looks like in 
airbrushed renditioning, look for the .GIF in the Star Wars archive.
The scene is NOT in the movie, and I heard that the card coordinator 
got fired for his prank.  The .GIF is easy to find... just look for
"3POPENIS_CARD.GIF" and you'll get the card.   
>
> 
>>Finally, just to start a thread, if you have made it this far in the
>>post, how about writing what your favorite card is and why.  To
>>start it off, I like the picture in the fifth series (cannot
>>remember the card number), which shows a group of stormtroopers on the
>>Death Star and the lead one being blasted by Solo!  A nifty 
>>scene if you ask me.
>

	Mine's from the orange series, with Han standing next to a Y-Wing
in the Rebel hangar bay.  It's called "Han and the Rebel Pilots."


		--Dave "Y-Wings and Boba Fett are Cool"  Fanjoy
From: boisvert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Zahn, Flint and LetterBox Info
Date: 16 Nov 1992 18:57:35 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <CFORTIER.92Nov16084507@genghis.news> cfortier@genghis.news (Chris Fortier) writes:
>
>Finally, the VHS version of the LetterBox Star Wars Trilogy was released on
>Thursday.  I got myself a copy for $97 (tax included).  The LetterBox format
>
>Basically, there are extra scenes that were not present in the P&S format and
>there are enhancements to existing scenes, afforded by the LetterBox format.

	You are going to get a lot of posts and email by making a blanket 
statement like this without backing it up with hard facts.  What "extra 
scenes?"  What kind of "enhancements?"  Are these documented on the video boxes
or are they things that you "don't remember seeing before?", etc.



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From: malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak)
Subject: Re: Zahn, Flint and LetterBox Info
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:02:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.064731.15400@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle) writes:
>
>Now the big question.  Why do the discs still cost more than $60 each? 

That's CBS/Fox pricing policy.  Now Paramount and Warner try price their
discs at $25.  The new Raiders of the Lost Ark letterbox disc was $25,
for example.  CBS/Fox are also the people that brought us Aliens for
$100.

Plus, the letterbox Jedi transfer isn't that good either.
From: hale@bbsls84.BNR.CA (Dave Hale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Unmade movies
Date: 16 Nov 1992 16:10:19 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: bbsls84.bnr.co.uk

Can anyone supply the names of the unmade Star Wars movies?
ie. the names of the first and third trilogies, and the order that they go in.

Thanks in advance.
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From: xxbsamek@utagraph.uta.edu (Mr. Brad Samek)
Subject: Re: Luke's lightsaber
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:55:52 GMT

flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle) writes:
:                 And you'd be better than a Jedi Master.  Better not
: ask him who the 'Master' is when you pull his head up, though. Yoda
: has reached the final level.  (only 1 in 100 will get this reference)
: 
   Well, the incorrect answer would be Sho 'Nuff.

                                              Brad Samek
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From: lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim)
Subject: SW sounds for Mac
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:10:37 GMT


	This is just to let everyone (including Scott Streeter) know that I've
popped some Mac sound files into the archives. There's about five or six of
them, in a single file named "sws" which needs to be unBinHexed to use. I dunno
whether it's necessary to delete the first line of the file first, although I
did, and managed to unBinHex successfully. Also, there may be a heap of ^Z's
at the end, which (if they're there) probably do need to be deleted. 

	The files are (to the best of my recollection):

	"Primary ignition commencing" (for one of the Death Stars)

	Vader: "I have you now" + Luke "Nooooooo!!!"

	Kenobi: "The Force will be with you, always."

	Chewbacca: "Arroauaaagh!"

	and, um, I dunno. One or two others. You'll see.


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Subject: Star Wars TV Special
From: dimshftr@netlink.cts.com (Adam Tow)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 11:17:35 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

        Does anyone have any information (or a taped copy) of the Star 
Wars TV Special that aired on CBS in 1979? Is this "episode" considered
canon or not? Thanks

-adam

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From: jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Wookiee Christmas special!
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:03:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxxMLr.5vJ
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


 I remember the Boba Fett cartoon, and the Grandpa Wookie watching
 Jefferson Starship play "Familiar Stranger."

 Jeff
From: lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Unmade movies
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:27:17 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1e8h5bINNfkc@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> hale@bnr.co.uk writes:
>Can anyone supply the names of the unmade Star Wars movies?
>ie. the names of the first and third trilogies, and the order that they go in.


	No one except George knows the titles yet. With that in mind, we can
still accurately tell you the order: first the first one, then the second one,
then-- 

	Ahem. But I'm sure you get the idea. Such as it is.


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