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From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mesa 1.1 on the archives
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:42:45 GMT
Reply-To: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.

I've just placed Mesa 1.1 on the archives (sonata.cc.purdue.edu,  
128.210.15.30; nova.cc.purdue.edu, 128.210.7.22; cs.orst.edu,  
128.193.32.1).

We're very proud of Mesa 1.1. Version AR-1 had lots of nice features, but  
it was just a start. Version 1.1 makes special use of the NeXT and shows  
off some very special, Mesa-only features.

Version 1.1 supports cell shading. While this is not new, Mesa makes it  
very easy to shade cells. We have kept to the drag and drop paradigm. To  
change a cell's shading, just Alt-Drag color onto the cell.

A spreadsheet first - the ability to change the color or background color  
of a cell from within the cell's formula. This allows you to make a cell  
red if a condition takes place in order to draw attention to the cell.  
This works especially well in conjunction with a real-time data feed.

Speaking of real-time data feeds, the object library is really starting to  
take shape. Mesa is the first spreadsheet to allow live editing of  
spreadsheet data from within another application. You can build a custom  
application and include a live spreadsheet view. The MOLIDemo.app  
application demonstrates a live spreadsheet view.

Being able to do great modeling is important, but so is the ability to  
access data. Mesa allows an unlimited number of SQL queries to be  
associated with each worksheet. The queries can be static or based on cell  
contents. If you have data in a Sybase database, you can use Mesa to  
access that data and then build models based on the data. If the data in  
the database changes, you can quickly load the new set of data in and your  
model will reflect the new data.

We've done all of this in the month since Release AR-1. All the people who  
bought AR-1 get the upgrade to Release 1.1 for free.

Mesa 1.1 is available in a student version for under a hundred bucks (to  
find out how much under, call NeXTConnection).

There has been lots of feedback regarding Mesa.  I hope that we could  
positively answer your questions.  Things are going very well here at  
Athena Design.  Our only problem is that we're growing faster than I  
expected.  We're looking for customer service people.  If you know of  
people who are good with spreadsheets, live in the Boston area, and would  
like to join a startup, please have them e-mail their resume to  
dpp@athena.com or fax it to 617.734.1130.

Thanks to all the people that made Mesa possible and I hope you enjoy the  
program.  Keep the feedback coming so we can make 1.2 even cooler.

David
-- 
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Attorney at Law,
Feeder of the Bears, Athena Design, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: Hmmm... LOTS of NeXTs for sale in misc.forsale{.computers}
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:40:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.225609.25687@liveware.com> todd@liveware.com writes:
> In article <1992Aug29.153455.18705@cube.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com  
> (Jim De Arras) writes:
> > 
> >  In article <1992Aug27.175511.13018@socrates.umd.edu> ice@socrates.umd.edu  
> > (Fredrik Nyman) writes:
> 
> [ munch munch munch (thanks don for pacman NeXT!!!) ]
> 
> > 
> > I see even more PeeCees being offered for sale there.
> > 
> > I wonder why?
> > Lack of software?  The recession?  NT is about to be released?
> > 
> > :-) :-)
> > 
> > Jim
> 
> Could it be there are a gazillion PCs (well, okay millions) on
> the used market and only about 50 thousand NeXT machines (if
> you are optimistic...  Population stats might have something
> to do with it also...
> 
> Todd

Didya miss the smilies?  That was a tongue-in-cheek reply!

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: reed@prism.sps.mot.com (Tim Reed)
Subject: expanding the dock
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:10:28 GMT


I know this has been asked before, but I don't remember the answers.  
Is there any way to expand the dock to hold more than 13 apps? What  
about NeXTstep 3.0?

--
-----------------------------------
Tim Reed
Motorola Inc.
Prism CIM System Admin.
reed@prism.sps.mot.com
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From: oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Richard O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Release 3.0 is shipping, as of Aug 24th. (?)
Summary: NeXT says 3.0 is shipping to customers now. Bullshit?
Keywords: NS3.0, NeXTSTEP
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:00:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug28.210040.303
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

Since no-one on Usenet seemed all that sure, I thought I'd call NeXT and
ask when we might expect 3.0 to appear. I was told that it started 'shipping'
on Monday, August 28th, and to expect my copy within a couple of weeks.

This could just be bullshit to appease customers, but it's what they say.

I was also amazed at:
   a) How prompt they were to answer; I didn't have to wait at all.
   b) How polite they were when dealing with a inquisative jerk like myself.

Anyway, now you know...

    Richard "NeXTWEENIE" O'Neill.
-- 
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signature and disclaimer is left   | oneill@fornax.UUCP | NeXTmail OK, but
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From: omv@athena.mit.edu (Daniel K Hartman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: a bunch of misc questions
Summary: HP IIIP, Mono w/ color monitor,
Date: 29 Aug 92 17:32:32 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Ok, here's a bunch of questions, some of which might be (at least one is) in
the FAQ, but I can't get at the FAQ now, so, sorry in advance.

1> I have a PC (urgh 8-) and a NeXT mono - want to hook both into an HP IIIP
w/ PS Level 2 cartridge.  Anyone know if you can make the IIIP respond to both
the serial port and the parallel port automatically? Or do I have to change
the settings some how? Anyone do this and find a good system to use?

2> Related to 1, what exactly do I have to do to hook up to the IIIP? I got
a 040 modem cable, I need to make a printcap entry, right? Anyone got one
they can send me?

3> Can you hook a mono monitor to a color station? How about the reverse?
Also, where can you buy a cable to hook a color up to a Nanoi T-560i?

4> Any way to make the NeXT CD-Rom player play through the Monitor's (or
sound box's) RCA ports rather than its own?  Yes, I've played with CDPlayer
and CDAudio, but I would like to go through the NeXT...

5> You know how when you print out something (say, a view) and it's bigger
than the page, it splits it onto multiple pages?  It seems to screw up a lot
for me, splitting only horizontally, I believe.  Is this fixed in 3.0?

6> Anyway to draw using alpha mode with normal PS code? By that I mean without
using composite....

7> Is there any Fax software for the Supra Fax Modem, NOW? I know there were
two companies working on it, but I haven't heard if they actually have a
product yet.

Sorry if this is a waste of bandwidth.

Please excuse any spelling errors, grammatical errors, lapse of judgement,
general stupidity, or lack of sanity.

Thanks,

Dan Hartman
omv@athena.mit.edu
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From: rallan@helical.com (Robb Aley Allan)
Subject: need TeX, texinfo info
Organization: Gulfstream Group, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 23:05:12 GMT


I am trying to make sense of TeXview on the NeXT, but am confused by
the wealth of related file formats (dvi, texinfo, etc.). Can one of
you kind souls steer me to the appropriate documentation sources?
Anything ftp-able would be delightful. Thx.


Robb Aley Allan, The Gulfstream Group
220 Sunrise Avenue, Palm Beach, FL 33480
voice: 407/ 832-4013   email: rallan@helical.com
Co-founder/director, Gotham Users of NeXT (GUN)
------------------------------------------------
-- 
Robb Aley Allan, The Gulfstream Group
220 Sunrise Avenue, Palm Beach, FL 33480
voice: 407/ 832-4013   email: rallan@helical.com
Co-founder/director, Gotham Users of NeXT (GUN)
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From: mike@media-lab.mit.edu (Michael Hawley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: looking at the bits in video frames (3.0 NeXT Dimension)
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:30:25 GMT
Reply-To: mike@media-lab.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

Has anyone got a convenient and efficient way to get at
the bits in grabbed video frames (on a NeXT Dimension under 3.0)?

The problem is this: when you grab the frame, you get an
image with representation NXCachedImageRep, which presumably
somewhere has a pointer to the raw image in NeXTDimension memory.
There are no methods to directly read this data, although you
can draw it out to another view.  I tried compositing the
NXCachedImageRep image into a newly allocated image with
an NXBitmapImageRep (a TIFF), but the latter was converted
to an NXCachedImageRep!

What I would like to do is simply get my hands on the pixel array
that underlies the NXCachedImageRep of a grabbed frame,
without copying and converting the whole frame.

Thanks for any leads.
From: Tim.Buck@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Tim Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Lost Home Directory Icon
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:49:27 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Aug30.183513.6354@rrz.de> fl1ger@rrz.de (Ralf  Weber) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.064227.4479@morrow.stanford.edu>  
>draphsor@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Matt Rollefson) writes:
>> Recently, my home directory no longer comes up with an icon - it just
>> looks like a folder. It still appears on the shelf, and I still can't
>
>Check if in Preferences-Unix the "Large File System" button is  
>activated. If so, deactivate it an you'll see the icons again. 
>
What else does the "Large File System" preference do besides turn on/off
home directory icons?

Just curious.

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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From: ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose (Christopher Penrose)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for AppSoft
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:17:23 GMT

Bill Smith writes
> Ok, you boys (and girls) at AppSoft, want to make me and a lot of other  
> (potential) users of WriteNow happy??  Could you PLEASE include an overstrike
> feature in the new version? Want another suggestion?  
> In your FIND panel, allow for substitution with other fonts!
> How about better handling of imported graphics??
> Oh yeah, now that I've written 4-500 or so pages of technical stuff in
> the old version, please let the new one open my old documents?!
> -Bill

Let me add -- WriteNow desperately needs emacs keybindings.  Edit has them.   
Mail has them.  This is frustrating as I can hack this feature myself when I  
have source code -- unfortunately, "Big League" software like WriteNow doesn't  
drop its pants down for you.

Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Renderman references
Summary: Renderman references
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:27:13 GMT

What do you we use for Renderman References in 3.0
From: grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Voice training using the NeXT?
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:01:34 GMT
Reply-To: grant@Manticore.COM


I'm looking for an app to help with musical voice training. App asks you
to sing a note and then shows you how close you got to the correct pitch...
that sort of thing. I seem to remember something PD for the NeXT along
those lines. Any pointers?
----
Grant Munsey, Mainticore, Inc. (408)252-1135
grant@Manticore.COM,  uunet!ub-gate!gouche!grant   NeXTMail ok.
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: CD-ROM question, NeXT customer support gripe
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:53:45 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Sep3.221018.15033@cs.cornell.edu>
aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E.  Aitken) writes:

>	I ordered a CD-ROM/3.0 upgrade in May, and finally took 
>delivery of the drive today (the delay was mostly my fault).    
>I want to know what *exactly* (besides the drive) should have been in the 
>package.  I *know* that 3.0 wasn't supposed to be. 
>My package included 
>
>	1) The drive itself
>	2) The power cable
>	3) a software licence 
>	4) a CD-ROM caddy.

>Given that the drive has a sticker on it saying to read the user manual
>before use, I'd expected to find one.  Should one have been present?
>Is anything else missing?

I think you have everything except the manual.  I've had my
drive for months, and it included a manual called "External
CD-ROM Drive Owner's Guide," with text in 7 languages.

-- 
Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin
Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu  Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc
Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: randy@appsoft.com (Randy Adams)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for AppSoft
Followup-To: writenow_suggestions@appsoft.com
Keywords: WriteNow Appsoft
Reply-To: randy@appsoft.com
Organization: Appsoft, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:29:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.135751.25176@hamblin.math.byu.edu>  
bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith) writes:
> Ok, you boys (and girls) at AppSoft, want to make me and a lot of other  
> (potential) users of WriteNow happy??  Could you PLEASE include an overstrike
> feature in the new version? 

I don't have a definitive answer on this one. I'll consult with the engineering  
team and let you know.
 
>Want another suggestion?  
> In your FIND panel, allow for substitution with other fonts!

Will do.

> How about better handling of imported graphics??

Absolutely !!!  The old way was brain dead.

> Oh yeah, now that I've written 4-500 or so pages of technical stuff in
> the old version, please let the new one open my old documents?!

Definitely.


Others wishing to make suggestions regarding WriteNow should email them to:

    writenow_suggestions@appsoft.com

We promise to read and consider every suggestion.  
We want to make you happy.  Just tell us how.

Randy Adams
randy@appsoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: cgb@count0.cmhnet.org  (Charles G. Bennett)
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Reply-To: cgb@count0.cmhnet.org
Organization: BenaTong
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:53:35 GMT

In article <basiji.714507571@milton> basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David  
Basiji) writes:
> wjs@blorf.cpac.washington.edu (William Shipley) writes:
> 
[deleted]
  My clock also loses about 10 min
> per day.
> 
> Anyone else notice these probs?
> 
> David Basiji
[rest deleted]

Mine too, but I never associated it with 3.0, BUT,come to think of it, I didn't  
have the problem before...Hmmmm

Anyone else? 

Chuck
-- 
Chuck Bennett, BenaTong Consulting
Harem Security (UNIX Consulting :-) )
cgb@count0.cmhnet.org
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Color faxes possible?
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:56:11 GMT
Reply-To: john@wpa.com (John Bartley)
Organization: Workgroup Productivity Associates

Anybody know what the possibilities are for sending and receiving color  
faxes with a NeXT? For example, let's say someone with a NeXTstation  
Color wanted to send a color fax to a company that had a Sharp color  
fax. Is this reasonably possible? What would it take?

Is the color aspect of faxing a standard now, or are the fax  
manufacturers using proprietary encoding techniques to accommodate  
color?
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Opening any file from WorkSpace with Edit?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:55:12 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science
In-reply-to: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU's message of 27 Aug 92 10:47:44 GMT

>>>>> "tvz" == tvz  <tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU> writes:
tvz> It would be nice if Alt-click-click in the WorkSpace
tvz> would open any file with Edit, even if the default
tvz> tool is some other application.

According to 'rumors', in release 3.0 one can command-drag files onto
app icons.  This would be quite handy for the purpose you mention. For
2.1, the same functionality is provided by Engage, a *very* nice
program. I use the drag-n-drop feature all the time to get Edit or Emacs
to open up other apps' files.

--
erik sowa (sowa@amdew.llnl.gov)
From: modman@liveware.com
Subject: Re: expanding the dock: unsolicitated views
Keywords: developers pluging software
Reply-To: modman@liveware.com
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:23:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.154312.1809@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van  
Huizen) writes:
> In article <869@rtbrain.rightbrain.com> glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)  
> writes:
> > Tim Reed writes
> > > 
> > > I know this has been asked before, but I don't remember the answers.  
> > > Is there any way to expand the dock to hold more than 13 apps? What  
> > > about NeXTstep 3.0?

[ pretty good but expensive for what you get.
	"has been leap-frogged by others" -NeXTworld ]

> > There are several utility programs that do this nicely, one of which

[ super shameless plug removed ;') <-- double plus good ]

> 

[ very nice program, very reasonably priced for what you get!!! ]

> 
> A demo of MetroTools is available on sonata, csorst and fiasko.

[ shameless plugs disclaimer removed ;') ]

> ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: mctate@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Adv.'s of NeXT's in the geosciences
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:10:07 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Hi folks,

	I am considering buying a NeXTStation, and was wondering if
there is anybody out there in the geosciences (or similar) that uses
one currently for research purposes. I would appreciate any opinions
re. advantages or disadvantages to using NeXT machines (rather than 
PC's or other UNIX machines), for such diverse tasks as mathematical 
modelling, creation of maps, writing, and preparation of slides for
presentations etc. So, is the NeXT a nice reliable, well-rounded 
machine ?
 
	If you've got the time, send e-mail to above address.
	Thanks in advance,

-- Marcus Tate.
   Grad. Student.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: schmidmeier@evax12.eng.fsu.edu
Subject: UNIX -> DOS conversion; ToolsInspector
Organization: Famu/Fsu College of Engineering
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:40:13 EST


Hello UNIX-Experts,

now that I've learned frome some post a few days ago how to
search files and replace certain strings using
      cat oldfile | sed s/oldstring/newstring/g > newfile
I'm wondering whether I can convert a UNIX-file to a
DOS-file that way, by replacing all the LineFeeds with
CarriageReturn and LineFeed (\015 and \012 I think).
Using \012 as a string did not work, so what will I have to do ?


In addition to this I also have a little question for the NeXT-Experts:
The Tools Inspector shows the default application for a file 
and all possible default applications (if some more).
How can I add a new application icon to this list of applications
in order to make it the default application ?

Thanks in advance for your hints,

Rainer     schmidmeier@evax.eng.fsu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: madler@cco.caltech.edu (Mark Adler)
Subject: Re: NASA image viewer
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:03:09 GMT


>> I'm not into Voyager data, but if they're like the shuttle photos, then  

They're not--the data on the CD-ROMs (which is where the files on that
ftp site come from) are losslessly compressed.  The method is Huffman-
coding pixel differences in the black-and-white images, and requires
some real software to decode them.  I do plan to get the C code from the
PDS (it's only about two buildings away--I work at JPL) and get it
working on the NeXT, but I make no promises on when I'll do it.

Mark Adler
madler@tybalt.caltech.edu
From: nweaver@ocf.berkeley.edu (Nicholas Weaver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: BackSpace/NextWorld
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:16:56 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: ocf.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug26.212116.527@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu writes:
>Backspace is now an example on the 3.0 release CD-Rom  
>(NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit). That probably has something to do with why  
>NeXT has requested that Backspace is no longer distributed...

	No.  This first part of the story is clouded in shadow.  Apparantly,
some developer who was planning or was marketing a screen saver/screen
locker got rather put off by a NeXT employee making and releasing BackSpace
to the world.  A few months (By which time Backspace was a staple of the
NeXT community), the complaint apparantly occured.  Or something like that.
The result was that NeXT requested the removal of BackSpace, and the author,
Samuel G. Strepper, complied.  Actually, BackSpace shouldn't have been
released in the first place, upon afterthought, and all PD/Shareware
releases by NeXT employees need to now be cleared by NeXT before doing so.
Just common sense.  NeXT employees should not undercut developers needlessly.

	But there was such a ROAR over the removal fo backspace, that a few
weeks later, a couple of days before the Expo, they announced that it would
be included in the next OS release as an example.  Alas, it was too late for
me, as I had already made up my "Save BackSpace" T SHirt to wear to the
expo.  But at least I saw what the results were.  The calibre of screen
saver entries at the expo is much higher then there probably would have
been, as well as creating a unified screen saver image format.  Metro-tools,
a multi use program, includes its own and can run BackSpace modules.  And
PixelSaver, a preferences driven, root level, works when logged out, also
includes a module to run backsapce modules.  So i think it was beneficial in
the long run.  Enough ranting.  Ciao all.
-- 
                             Nicholas C. Weaver
nweaver@ocf.berkeley.edu                           nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu
It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing.
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From: et@ocf.berkeley.edu (Eric Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Decent BackSpaceViews wanted
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 29 Aug 1992 00:20:50 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu

Looking for BackSpace views other than what's readily available
on sonata/nova/orst.. (for use with Engage).  If you've got a cool
one or know where others are available, send 'em my way.

NeXTmail OK, eh :)

Eric, et@ocf.berkeley.edu
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