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From: thompsjm@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: Looking for a UCX-supporting client
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:50:36 GMT



Hello, people!

I'm am looking for an IRC client to use here at Rose-Hulman on the VAXcluster. 
But here's the catch.  It needs to support UCX.  Multinet is nowhere to be
seen here.  Could someone please tell me the location where I could FTP such a
critter?  It would be greatly apprecieated.  E-mail is preferred since I don't
regularly read news.  Thanks a bundle!

Jeremy Thompson
THOMPSJM@ROSEVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: #hack and #twilight_zone
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:37:01 GMT

adean@weber.ucsd.edu (Anthony V. Dean) was telling me...
>lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee) wrote :
>> fast decline to hell.  Grow up and act like human beings.
>>
>>  (this is not directed at all IRC operators. There are some good ones left.
>>    TRILLIAN, STAHLE ,WIZARD, JUMPJOE, CRAHN and CYBERMAGE  leap to mine and 
>>    a FEW others.) 
>
>Looks like a list full of recent ircopers to me, except maybe one or
>two. And it's apparent that you dont know any of these opers. Take
>that whichever way you want.
>later.

Well he didn't say they were old opers.  Sheesh since when does 
long time op = good op?  Basically never.  You can be both, but one
doesn't lead to the other.  I'm sure we all can pull examples out of thin
air.  

And 'good op' is all dependent on which side you're on (there's more than
just two)  But usually whichever side you yourself are on is the 'good' side
for you.  Everyone else out there are the 'mean nasty baddies' out to make
life horrible for you.

So when someone says something like that...rememeber...

Your milage may vary...

-Alex
From: "ben bernard" <ben.bernard@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: smallest unix irc cli
Date: 12 Sep 92 08:51:40 EST
Reply-To: "ben bernard" <ben.bernard@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

RG>    The enclosed client is pretty small.  It is missing a few
RG>of the fancier features, and most people don't like the way the
RG>output is formatted, but you didn't specify quality...

RG>--------cut here--------
RG>#!/bin/sh
RG>telnet ${IRCSERVER-fairhope.andrew.cmu.edu} 6667
RG>---
RG> * PCB/UseNet Gateway from Sparkware #3


Ouch!  I've used this client before.  No fun at all.  Especially on
InitGame (I never could keep track of what I was _trying_ to type!)

                              -- Ben Bernard --
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: bosman@fwi.uva.nl (Dr.D)
Subject: Re: FAQ(beginner IRC prog) Bots for vms system
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:20:05 GMT

jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) writes:

>Boy, unless you know something the rest of us dont, you CANT write a bot in VMS
>because you dont have the load command.....
>Sorry, but you need to find a U*IX account or something to start up a bot.
>Also, you dont have any /on commands in VMS, and a bot without /on commmands
>is pretty worthless.
>Sorry.....
>						Jeremy Nelson
>						hop


hmmm....weird..my robot doesnt use any /on nor /load 
Ofcourse..its written in C. Or doesnt VMS know C? Wouldnt be surprised :)

scorpio
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From: gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Geoffrey Spear)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,soc.college
Subject: Re: The Big Lie (PC)
Date: 5 Sep 92 06:09:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kee=ySq00aw601VUxf
	<Btwzr8.Jwq@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <adams.715381348@spssig>
	<3SEP199217531925@venus.lerc.nasa.gov>
	<CINDY.92Sep4191415@solan10.solan.unit.no>
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


	Interestingly (or maybe not) enough, the other day, Bobby Fischer made
the same point, saying that he's not anti-Semitic, because he doesn't
hate Arabs.  Seems like a nice way of avoiding a question...
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.peace.corps,alt.peace-corps
From: dld@cs.monash.edu.au (David L Dowe)
Subject: Re: Peace Research Centre, Australian National University
Keywords: Australia, Australian National University, ANU, Peace Research Centre,PRC
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:49:36 GMT

dld@cs.monash.edu.au (Seeking ANU) writes:

>   Hello.  I am looking for the e-mail address of the Peace Research Centre
>(PRC) at the Australian National University (ANU).  In particular, I am looking
>for the e-mail address of one of the PRC's staff, Ms W R Lambourne.

>Any help greatly appreciated.

>Thank you.

>Regards,  David D.
   Kind readers have told me that the e-mail address is
{whoever} @coombs.anu.edu.au

Thanks.
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From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: "Lies Work"
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:45:08 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
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In article <Btusp7.MtC@newcastle.ac.uk> Chris.Holt@newcastle.ac.uk (Chris Holt) writes:
>mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman) writes:
>>In article <92243.163225SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> SML108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>>Various brouhaha about who claims what deleted...

>>>Bush makes invalid claim about Clinton raising taxes 128 times...
>>>Clinton responds that by same criteria, Bush did it 327 times...
>>>Third party says real score is Clinton 59, Bush 78...

>>>Now here's the clincher.  The way I see it, Clinton was not lying because
>>>he had already stated the criteria was bogus and was merely showing that
>>>if you apply the same Bu1!$h|+ to Bush, he's even worse...

>>Excuse me, but don't you think 327 vs. 78 is significant?

>No,  I  don't  think 327 vs. 78 is significant, simply because we
>know nothing about the magnitude of the raises, nor the kinds of
>taxes involved (which is necessary if we're going to talk about
>the effects on the economy).  For that matter, I happen to think
>that the uses of the tax money is important; but that's far too
>complicated to deal with in a net.thread, apparently.

So in other words, you believe that because the important issues are
too complicated to deal with it is OK for Slick to lie about the
unimportant ones.
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Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: elee74l@Rosie.UH.EDU
Subject: UH "Open Mike"  9/11/92
Reply-To: elee74l@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 08:00:52 GMT


If anyone is interested in expressing his viewpoint in ANY issues, such as
GOP, pro-choice, pro-life, family value, gay right, school censorship,
etc, etc, etc....

University of Houston (central) is having an "Open Mike" on 9/11/92
at the University Center Saterlite from noon to 1 p.m.

This program is sponsered by the Student Program Board (SPB).

If anyone is interested, please come.
If anyone has any question, please send e-mail to elee74l@jetson.uh.edu.


--Ken N.

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.save.the.earth
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: nicaraugua "resistance"
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:08:27 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
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              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <92245.205013HERSCH@auvm.american.edu> HERSCH@auvm.american.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.124642.19226@iti.org>, aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) says:

>>In article <Ta9DqB1w164w@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> jc@oneb.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>>>although I personally cannot sanction vengance as a national
>>>policy, ...

>>He then goes on to say that he considers the extrajudicial execution of
>>a number of Sandinsita opponents 'justice'.

>>I never ceace to be amazed at the contradictions leftists can come up
>>with and believe.

>And I never cease (or, as you would have it, ceace) to be amazed at
>the lies you right-wing loonies reach for in your attempts to discredit
>decent people who don't agree with you. "Extrajudicial" was *NOWHERE*
>in the post you're responding to.

No.  The word wan't used.  So what?  Are you claiming that these
murders were not extrjudicial?  Please tell us more.  

>He talked about the
>execution of murderers, not the "extrajudicial" execution of "opponents".

So you mean that if the Sandinistas kill former contras it is the
execution of murderers, not the extrajudicial excution of opponents
even though the contras were amnestied and Nicaragua has no death penalty?

>You're sickening.

Actually, I think you are.

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Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,news.admin
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: In GATT They Trust (II)
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 11:51:11 GMT

harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:

>In GATT They Trust (II)

>The following article was taken from the _Covert Action_ Spring 1992
>[special issue dedicated to  Native people's rights/struggles]


Remember when the MISC.ACTIVISM.PROGRESSIVE debate was ensuing, the
moderators of MAP indicated "such a group will help us eliminate
cross-posting".

Welp, here's an article which I've found, posted to at least *6*
newsgroups (which I've found sofar.) 

But, not just posted once, mind you, to six newsgroups - posted several
times (i.e. multiple copies on your news filesystem), each with a different
Newsgroups: line - clearly in an attempt to decieve people from knowing
how many newsgroups the article is really cross-posted to.

Given that this individual is constantly misrepresenting facts regarding
MAP, and has lied to everyone on the net as to "reducing crossposting",
I ask the rhetorical question: How can we believe anything he posts?

MD
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From: art@world.std.com (Al Thompson)
Subject: Re: disparity between rich and poor widening
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<1992Sep13.111959.101@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:36:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.111959.101@anomaly.sbs.risc.net> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

[...]

   Remember the saying:

   If you're going to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on having the
   support of Paul.

Yes, but then Peter will get mad and you can't do business with sore
Peter.  :-)  Sorry, I just couldn't resist.

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: monstman@bluemoon.rn.com (Kevin A. Keefe)
Subject: Ohio Ethnic Intimidation Law
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 22:29:35 EDT

Ethnic Intimidation Law
Post: 22881 of 22882
orson@bluemoon.rn.com (Craig Smith) Thu, 03 Sep 92 21:06:24 EDT writes:
>
>Okay, but then the question comes down to, "what is the intent of
>a cross burner?" To intimidate, yes? Are their laws against
>intimidation? Yes, there are. Existing laws will suffice.
>
 
Hey Craig - I thought your speciality was computers - now you are a
legal expert as well???
 
What are these laws against imtimidation you speak of?
 
The current laws in Ohio most definately DO NOT punish ethinic
imtimidation, thus citizens ask for a tougher law. What's your
problem with that?
 
I'm not sure why the Supreme Court of Ohio struck down the current
Ethnic Intimidation Law. I hope the legislature will try again to
enact a law that the court can find agreement with.
 
I personally know of african-american citizens in Middletown Ohio
who caught some local KKK burning a cross on their lawn. They
videotaped this racist outrage on a camcorder.
 
Next day at the county prosecutor offices they were told the only
law the perpetrators could be charged with was a violation of
the State EPA laws against open burning without a permit.
Is this what you consider adequate protection, sir? 
 
>It seems extremely odd to me that those who write and support these
>"hate crime" laws are the same people who say that you cannot 
>legislate morality.  Is not racism a moral question?
>
>Double standard, is it not?
>
 
Not at all a double standard. Racism IS a moral question - but that
is not why it is a legal question.
 

Kevin A. Keefe                 Politically Correct, and damn proud of it!
monstman@bluemoon              "Only two things are infinite, the universe
monstman@bluemoon.uucp          and human stupidity, and I'm not sure
monstman%bluemoon@nstar.rn.com  about the former." - Albert Einstein
From: bg055@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stewart Rowe)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Forecasters of doom
Date: 6 Sep 1992 21:21:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Aha! Now we are to be treated to the latest version of the John Birch
Society paranoid view of the environmental movement!
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Harel posts a particularly clumsy lie.  (Was Re: "STRONG FAMILY VALUES" (III) (1))
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:36:34 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
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In article <dliebman.1b6c@terapin.com> dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.224116.13550@oracle.us.oracle.com>, mfriedma@uucp
>(Michael Friedman) writes:

>>>The
>>>health care situation *for the population as a whole* is worse in the USA
>>>than
>>>any country in Europe (with the obvious exception of Yugoslavia as was), in
>>>addition to Canada, Oz, NZ, Japan Korea etc. etc... 

>>Evidence please...  To begin with, please define "The health care
>>situation for the population as a whole."  I don't think you can and I
>>think your statement above is just someone blowing hot air and
>>propaganda out their ass.

>the united states has a higher infant mortality rate than all of the other
>'industrialized' states, including canada, japan, all the western european
>nations.

So?  Is the only measure of "the health care situation for the
population as a whole" the infant mortality rate?  Also, don't you
think the infant mortality rate is affected (and perhaps even
controlled) by factors totally unrelated to health care such as drug
and alcohol abuse?  Finally, any comparison of infant mortality rates
must use the same definition of live birth in both cases, unless, of
course, you are more interested in propaganda than facts.  For
example, second trimester preemies, who we almost always count as live
births, and half of whom die, are usually counted as miscarriages by
most countries.


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From: ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.individualism,alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Who's "free-er"? Intrnat'l response wanted!
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:39:14 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:

> You are confusing the having of a right and it's being respected.
>
> I have a right to speak even if the government silences me.
> I have a right to defend myself even if the government leaves me defenseless.
> I have a right to own property even if the government takes it from me.
> I have a right to live even if the government kills me.
> Ihave a right to petition the government een if the government ignores me.
> I have a right to make contracts even if the government refuses to recognize
> I have a right to associate with whomever I choose, even if the government
> seeks to divide me from my chosen companions.
>
> That's what it means for a right to be "inalienable".  Even by ignoring or
> violating a right, the government cannot make it vanish.
>
yes, but...  so what?  what good does the right to live do you if the
government kills you?  having "rights" that are not respected are of no more
use than not having the rights in the first place, on a pragmatic level.
you're just as dead as if you had no right to live at all...

                                                -ailsa

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Newsgroups: alt.activism,soc.culture.usa,tn.general,misc.legal
From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Subject: U.S. Govt. Files Complaint to Revoke Citizenship of Tennessee Man
Organization: Echo Beach
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:34:29 GMT

Here is a press release from the U.S. Justice Department

 Justice Department Files Complaint to Revoke Citizenship of
Tennessee Resident
 To: National Desk, Tennessee Correspondents
 Contact: Kathy St. Dennis of the U.S. Department of Justice,
          202-514-2007

   WASHINGTON, Sept. 9 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Department of Justice
today filed a complaint to revoke the citizenship of Jozsef Szendi of
Cookeville, Tenn., for taking part in the persecution of unarmed
Jewish civilians and others while a member of a para-military group
responsible for the enslavement and deportation of much of Hungary's
Jewish population during World War II.
   The complaint was filed in U.S. District Court in Nashville by the
Office of Special Investigations (OSI) of the Justice Department's
Criminal Division and the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Middle
District of Tennessee.
   Szendi's activities included taking part in a raid on a building
in Budapest where Jews were hidden by a rescue program headed by
Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg, the complaint said.
   Szendi voluntarily joined the Royal Hungarian Gendarmerie and
personally transported Jewish civilians from Budapest to the German
SS in Poland, the complaint said.  From 1939 to 1941, the Gendarmerie
deported 16,000 to 18,000 Jewish civilians to Poland, where the SS
shot them to death.
   The complaint said that in 1944 Szendi participated in confining
Hungarian Jews to ghettos and deporting them to the Auschwitz
concentration camp in Poland, where most were murdered in the camp's
gas chambers.
   Szendi later became a member of the armed commando wing of a
Hungarian terrorist organization, the National Organization of
Accountability, that was responsible for assaults, torture, and
killings of public officials, diplomats, political figures, and
unarmed Jewish civilians, the complaint said.
   The complaint said Szendi personally assisted in the persecution
of unarmed Jews and others.  The assistance included taking part in a
1944 armed raid on a building in Budapest in search of Jews hidden
there by a rescue program directed by Wallenberg, the complaint said.
   Szendi misrepresented and concealed his past activities when
applying for immigration to the United States in 1956 under the
Refugee Relief Act of 1953 and the Immigration and Nationality Act of
1952 and subsequently when petitioning for U.S. citizenship in 1964,
according to the complaint.
   To date, 42 Nazi persecutors have been stripped of U.S.
citizenship as a result of OSI's investigations and prosecutions,
and 30 have been removed from the United States.
 -30-

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From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.individualism,alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Who's "free-er"?  Intrnat'l response wanted!
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 92 10:30:22 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>Note that these criterion DO NOT
>count as freedoms things like medical care, housing, welfare, etc.  These
>would be relevant to discussing which nations take the best care of people;
>instead, I want to discuss those nations which leave people alone.
>--
>Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
>                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson

If "take the best care of people" is the usual social-democratic
euphemism for collecting taxes at gunpoint from some, to buy free lunches
for others, then the distinction is well taken.  In the USA, property
forfeitures without trial, called "jeopardy assessments", were ROUTINE
procedure at the Internal Revenue Service BEFORE Reagan was elected
president.  And the tax authorities in Sweden have long had the
reputation of making the IRS look like a bunch of WIMPS.

Please observe the NUMBER ONE rationale behind the anti-immigration
hysteria now going on in the USA:  "They'll just come over here and go
on welfare [i.e. give the government the opportunity to "take the best
care" of them] and then we taxpayers will have to support them."  It
would not be farfetched to expect that other countries have thought this
one out, too.

If to "take the best care of people" means welfare statism, then to "take
the best care of people" and to "leave people alone" are mutually exclusive.


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