HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: christie@porgy.dfci.harvard.edu (Linda A. Christie)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Avocet 30: mounting tran
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:59:49 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
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> Avocet also makes a 4 tab ring magnet. There's a picture of it on page 13 
> of the Spring 1992 Branford Bike catalog. Since Branford lists it for $4.88, 
> I would suspect that you local dealer can also get it for about that price. 
> 
I just called Performance and they have it for $2.00
The catalog # is 40-2618 and you must specify for 32 spoke wheel.
However, shipping charge is 3.75 so you would have to want to
some other items to make it worthwhile.
1-800-727-2453
From: slo@otter.hpl.hp.com (Steve Loughran)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:44:30 GMT
Subject: Re: XC Pro hubs compatible with XT groupo?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles


Last weekend I replaced most of my transmission -chainwheel and real 
derailleur with  DX components, while still keeping A Suntour Freehub
(not XC-pro -something cheap and nasty) and thumb shifters.

The results were excellent -I now have indexing, which i turned off somewhere
in the Pyrenees in 1990 and havent been able to get working again.
I didnt need to spend any time fiddling with the setup except to fix the 
max and min shifts.

Note that I have a suntour shifter, which may pull the cable to get
the derailleur to move the right amount. Its actually a six speed shifter,
but I have a 7 speed hub to make things more complex -I still get all 7 speeds.

I dont know about what the results of using XT shifters will be -I might
have a go this weekend by swapping wheels with anothe bike and seeing
what difference it makes.

Actually it might make a major difference to my downhills if I've got
someone else wheels -I bet I could go over way bigger rocks :-)
From: davidto@siesoft.co.uk (David Tollow)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: UK Track Bike  (LOTUS Monocoque)
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:31:53 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
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apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt) writes:
: 
: No doubt the bike helps, but Chris Boardman got to the Olympics without it;
: what were his qualifying times?  How many places is it giving him?  Mike
: Burrows thinks he will not stand a chance without the bike.

Chris Boardman is probably the best amateur time-trialler and
track cyclist the UK has got right now. But in the past he hasn't
done that well in International competition, so Mike Burrows
probably has a point.

However, in any sport where technology plays a part, should we
discount the achievements of an athlete because "he would not
stand a chance without the bike". Or should we say "On the day, the
best combination of athlete + bike/racket/boat/gun/skis... won".

The only alternative is if all competitors use exactly the same
equipment.

Dave Tollow

Siemens Nixdorf
Bracknell, England
From: cyn@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Cyndi Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Timetable of Olympic Cycling Events
Date: 21 Jul 1992 18:34:59 GMT
Organization: M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

This is condensed from Rachele Harless' post in rec.olympics containing the
complete timetable for the olympics.  I thought rec.bikes would be interested
in the cycling events and I hope someone will be able to explain some (to me)
strange scheduling.
(my questions set off by >>cs0

(M-denotes men. W-denotes women. Unified Team-denotes athletes from former
republics of the Soviet Union. Independent Team-denotes athletes from
Yugoslavia.)

All times local. Barcelona is 6 hours ahead of Eastern Daylight Time.

July 24, 1992
July 25
	7:30 p.m. -- Opening Ceremonies.
July 26
	9:00 a.m. -- Cycling: M 100km Team Time Trial Final.
	5:30 p.m. -- Cycling: W Individual Road Race Final.
July 27
	6:00 p.m. -- Cycling: M Individual Pursuit, Elimination Round 1.
	8:00 p.m. -- Cycling: M 1 Kilometer Time Trial Final.
July 28
	10:00 a.m. -- Cycling: M & W Sprint Elimination Heats.
	6:00 p.m. -- Cycling: M & W Sprint Qualifications. M 4,000m Individual Pursuit
Heats. 
                                        M Individual Points Race Qualification.
>>cs  sprint quals AFTER sprint eliminations???
July 29
	6:00 p.m. -- Cycling: M Individual Pursuit Semifinals. M & W Sprint
Eliminations and Quarterfinals.
	7:30 p.m. -- Cycling: M Individual Pursuit Final.
July 30
	6:00 p.m. -- Cycling: M & W Team & Individual Pursuit Elimination and
Quarterfinals. 
                                        M & W Sprint Semifinals.
>>cs  I guess they mean M quarters and W & Team eliminations
July 31
	6:00 p.m. -- Cycling: M Team Pursuit Semifinals. W Individual Pursuit
Semifinals. 
                                        M & W Sprint Final.
	8:00 p.m. -- Cycling: M Team Pursuit Final. W Individual Pursuit Final. 
                                        M Individual Points Race Final.
>>cs  Team semis and finals within 2 hours???
August 1
August 2
	8:30 a.m. -- Cycling: M Individual Road Race.

If anyone can explain the above to me, I would appreciate it.
Thanks!
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All opinions are mine, I tell you, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE, MINE (unless you
want to rent them for a small fee...)
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-M.D. Anderson Cancer Center-----Houston, Texas
-ph: 713/794-4938--------------fax: 713/792-4262
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From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Subject: Re: How do I mount a computer on fat fork MTB? 
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 10:37:40 EDT

Thus spoke the keyboard of dai@kevlar.rtp.dg.com (Dave Iwatsuki):
>Having gotten a good price on a Cateye ATC cyclocomputer, I now find I can't
>mount the sensor on my front fork: it's a Trek DS2 shock, and just too fat.
>Has anyone done this successfully? (I tried a Cateye reflector seatpost clamp, but
>that was still too small, though it would work on a tapered shock fork; also,
>getting the sensor close to the wheel magnet and at the correct angle may still
>be a problem.)

I did have the same problem after I installed my Rock Shox. What I did was to
get to a store to get a (don't know the name of it) that are used to keep
tubes (for water or for electrical wireing) to the wall. They look like
this:


                               ___
                              '   `
                             '     `
                   ===      '       `         ===   (2x nuts)
                           '         `         
                  ---------|         |------------
                                               
          ======>>>>> (the sensor goes here)   
                                               
                  ================================  (Al plate)
                                               
                    ^                          ^
                    |                          |    (2x screws)
                    |                          |
                    =                          =
                    
(not a very good ascii, but the gap above are round).

Put some rubber between the "mounting device" and the fork. Take some from an
old innertube. This has worked very well for me for almost a year. No problem
with the sensor going out of alignment.

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From: ams@watson.ibm.com (Aaron Shtromas)
Subject: Missing subject header
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:27:24 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Jul24.133315.9688@den.mmc.com>, sims@possum.den.mmc.com (John Sims) writes:
|> In article <23JUL199222120733@iago.caltech.edu> lmh@iago.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.) writes:
|> > In the 'morning briefing' of the sports section of the LA Times of Sunday, 
|> >July 19 is a reprint of some comments by
|> > Mark Purdy of the San Jose Mercury News.
|> > He discusses the proposed realignment of pro baseball and suggests some other
|> >realignments, one of which is:
|> >
|> > "The Tour de France bicycle race should be realigned onto the Santa Monica
|> >Freeway - during rush hour. We would definitely see how many of those guys
|> 	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >in the funny stretch pants are real men."
|> 
|> Shouldn't be any problem at all.  After all, what's the challenge in
|> outsprinting a car which is moving about 5mph?  Why they still call it
|> "rush hour" is beyond me.  Everyone may _be_ in a rush, but no one's
|> getting anywhere at much of any speed.  Y'know, just once, I love to see
|> some football jock like John Amway, er Elway, ride a stage in _any_ pro
|> bike race.  The results could be quite amusing.
|> 
|> John
|> 
|> -- 
|> John Sims    sims@pogo.den.mmc.com

-- 
does not have to be a pro race. there was a little blip in the velo news this
year about some ex-redskins (?) being dropped in cat 5 or novice or such like
races!!! when i rode on the davis-peugeot team we had an ex-college footballer
who confided that racing (only criteriums for him) was the hardest thing he ever
did.

aaron
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Subject: Re: CHEAP, SAFE tires????
Keywords: blowouts, sidewall cuts, Performance
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:46:57 GMT

In article <9240@alvin.mcnc.org> ekp@mcnc.org (Edward Pavelchek) writes:
>I had already decided not to buy any more Performance  basic tires
>because of sidewall cuts, but one was still on the bike.  Coming down a
>rather steep hill Sun, a pedestrian caused a hurried brake application,
>locking up the rear wheel, which instantly flatted, after wearing
>through the rubber, cord and tube.   Is this a normal disaster I just
>haven't read about yet?
>
>Is there an inexpensive, heavy, cheap tire  for someone who wants 
>it to last at least a couple low mileage years?   Something in a 
>27x1 1/4?  

Although I don't have lots of miles on them (I switch tires quite
often), I think the Michelin Selects are a good bargain.  They can
usually be had for $8 mail order and come in 700x25,28,32C and 27x1,
1-1/8,1-1/4".  Nashbar and Colorado Cyclist carry them.  I saw the
27" version going for $5 in the local shop's "blowout bin" a while
back.

>-- 
>And if your hand or foot offend you,         Ed Pavelchek   ekp@mcnc.org
>  Cut it off, lad, and be whole;
>But play the man, stand up and end you,
>  When your sickness is your soul.           AE Housman


--
Mark Chandler               Novell, Inc.          510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com      Walnut Creek, CA      510/938-2562 FAX
==================================================================
     The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: Pain (was:Re: LEMOND - No More!)
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:07:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.133647.3411@gdt.bath.ac.uk>
ccsdhd@gdt.bath.ac.uk (Dennis Davis) writes:
 
 [stuff deleted]
>
>This often isn't the reply expected by the the British Standard
>Englishman.  (That's BSE for short.  And no, it isn't the same as
>Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy the mad cow disease.  Even if they
>may appear outwardly similar.)  Often the question is purely
>rhetorical.  You answer 'Fine', or some approximation thereof, and
>pass on to discussing more important matters such as the weather.
 
It's also a strong midwestern US trait, I think. When I was getting used
to Look pedals I took a fierce biff while trying to clip in going up a steep
hill. I was lying on the ground, in tremendous pain, unable to move, wondering
if I'd broken anything. A van pulled up alongside and the passenger leaned out
the window and asked "Are you okay?"
 
I caught my breath- it took a few seconds- and grunted out "sure". The van
drove off, and I eventually dragged myself and my bike off the side of the
road where I rested for about 5 minutes until the pain dropped to a low
enough level for me to ride the 15 miles home.
 
Then again, maybe it's a universal biker response.
 
          --mike
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: Barbora Deschenes <BRAB@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Mountain Co-op
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:52:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.162015.14897@ccu.umanitoba.ca> feld@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Feld) writes:
>I've used MEC for my bike-riding gear, but with only mixed results.
>In particular, my Icefield II rain jacket, while virtually bomb-proof,
>semi-breathable (let's be realistic), and handsome, has a hood far too
>big for riding with any sort of peripheral vision, so one tends to
>have that wet head look.
>Suggestions?  I hear that in Britain special bicycling rain gear
>exists.
>.
How about putting a helmet under your hood?.....Barbora
>.

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From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: Re: Time for rec.bicycles.racer?
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:03:04 GMT

>In article <1992Jul21.142840.9110@meaddata.com> georged@meaddata.com  
>(George Dibos) is splitting:
>> ... it is getting to be a hassle to wade through...  [all the
>>postings] ...
>> 
>> Is it time to spin off an enthusiast's group?  

In article <5575@ucru2.ucr.edu> mikes@velo.ucr.edu (Mike Shebanek)
>joins in:
>I totally agree on this one. ... 
>
>How do we get these in place?

>Mike Shebanek


Take this to news.groups and join the discussion there.
There might even be a call for votes soon.

We need the space here for all the posting I thoroughly enjoy wading
through. 

-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
From: lenny@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Len Goodman)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: UK Track Bike  (LOTUS Monocoque)
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:51:27 GMT
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA

Could somebody explain the unique features of this bike??
I have not seen any pictures of it, or a detailed explanation.
Thanks.
  Len Goodman  (lenny@hobbs.hunt.inmet.com)
From: khe@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Keith Erskine)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:47:50 GMT
Subject: Re: new record for Bob Cook Hillclimb
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

In rec.bicycles, koren@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Steve Koren) writes:

> The most recent Bob Cook Memorial Hillclimb saw a new record set.  The
> old record was 1h 47m ??s.  The new record is 1h 45m 30s.  I saw this on
> the news and don't recall who set the new record.  (This is for ~ 6.8 kft
> of climbing up to ~ 14.2 kft).

Mike Engleman set the new record Sunday.  He also won the race last year
in windy, cold conditions.  This year's conditions were wind free but cold,
according to friends who did the race.  They said the Coors Light team did
an TTT for the first 5 miles to help Engleman (and/or Grewal) set the new 
record.  Evidently they did 28!!! mph for the first 4-5 miles!!!! (The 
first 5 miles are slightly uphill, maybe 1-2% grade, with a few short 
sections of maybe 4-5% grade).  

Alexi Grewal finished 8th, and a young Ft. Collins rider, Greg Miller,
finished 7th. 

Keith Erskine
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: akins@cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins)
Subject: Behemoth: Finally got the right address
Originator: akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:19:52 GMT

Well, I went and checked one more time on the address for Behemoth,
and it turns out that I did type it wrong.  (Give me a break,
I had a bad ride this morning)

The correct address is ( and I just sent mail to make sure
it didn't bounce back):

WORDY@bikelab.sun.com

Sorry about the confusion.

PS:  If this doesn't work I am sorry but I will be out back with 
my head buried in the sand.

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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Amazing Stories
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:14:21 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

>>him .. armed with bloody nunchuckers!  "My God!", I thought!

>Ummmm, what's a nunchucker? Translate for a limey...

It's a form of catapult invented by someone exceptionally traumatized
by Catholic school.

Seriously, it's the martial-arts weapon (nunchaku or, in colloquial
'Murriken, "numbchucks") wielded by one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles.  The kid would know which turtle; I wouldn't.  It consists
of two hard sticks connected with several inches of chain, and can
do a lot of damage -- to your opponent if you have been properly
trained in its use, to you otherwise.  (Many a martial-arts student
has conked himself out with nunchaku.)  Illegal in many places
except under special circumstances; consult your attorney, sensei,
or bail bondsman.  

In my experience, they tend to be carried mostly by badass poseurs.
However, badass poseurs can certainly leave you in the hospital or
the grave yard, and nunchaku can be a deadly weapon if their wielder
gets you before he gets himself.

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: georged@meaddata.com (George Dibos)
Subject: Re: ULTRA marathon cycling
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:27:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.180812.197421@cs.cmu.edu>, dreece+@cs.cmu.edu (Douglas Reece) writes:
|> 
|> An article in the Arizona Republic recently tells of Michael Secrest's hope to
|> ride from Los Angeles to Jacksonville, FL in 48 hours.  Apparently he
|> rode 1216 miles in 24 hours in April 1990.  This was at Phoenix International 
|> Raceway, riding behind a diesel truck with big plastic shields to deflect air.
|> Since he has done RAAM successfully before, he figures he could keep up
|> that pace for two days.  The truck would carry 500 gallons of fuel and three
|> drivers for the cross country trip so it wouldn't have to stop.
|> 
|> All he needs now is cooperation from the state governments along the route,
|> and money.
|> 
|> Doug

Your last word is the key--Michael (indeed, all RAAM types) have had to
operate on a shoestring since it all began.  I used to live about four
blocks from Mike, and know how he was forced to live to be able to cycle
full time.  Writers and painters call it "starving for their art".  When
you want to be the greatest ultra-marathon cyclist in the world, it's
just plain starving...

And speaking of RAAM, it starts TOMORROW, you know!  Stay tuned--one of my
best friends is in it--Matt Bond--and I'll post the race's progress every
chance I get.  
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From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Tailwind behind fairings
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:47:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Dennis, I have only recently finished a consulting job
that had to do with turbulent flow effects and the 
vortices formed from it. Believe me that there is no
such thing as a stable vortex in the regimes discussed
here.
From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Numbness during extended bicycling & other overuse injuries
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:19:00 GMT
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA

In article <15908@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>
>							There is
>also no reason to suppose that if the disk was surgically removed
>you could not return to riding.  There are many competitive athletes
>that have had the procedure and are competing at the top of their
>sport.

The best known example is [American] football quarterback Joe Nameth.

-dk
From: jaime@tcville.HAC.COM (Jaime Villacorte)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Suspension forks: Tange Shockblades or Answer Manitou?
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:48:23 GMT
Reply-To: jaime@tcville.HAC.COM (Jaime Villacorte)
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA



	Has anyone had any first-hand experience with the Tange
Shockblades suspension fork, and perhaps how they compare to the
Answer Manitou suspension fork? 

	Looking at the latest Colorado Cyclist catalog I received,
it seems that the Tange fork is about $141 less than the Manitou
($239 vs $379.99), and is about 1/2 pound lighter (1320g. vs 1525g.)
Both use elastopolymer materials for dampening.

	If one just looks at the numbers, the Tange seems to be the
better deal than the Manitou - both dollar-wise and by weight.
So I was wondering if there was a "catch" - perhaps some concession
in performance?

					- jaime villacorte

    Hughes Aircraft Co, EDSG                  jaime@tcville.edsg.hac.com
              El Segundo, CA                  villacor@hac2arpa.hac.com
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From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Subject: Re: Headset problems with my mountain bike
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 11:26:34 EDT

Thus spoke the keyboard of suned1!jkb@nosc.mil (John K Bunk):
>I've owned three mountain bikes, and every one has (or had) the problem
>of having the bearing locknut loosening constantly!  The threads of all
>headsets were not stripped, and I used two wrenches (not one) to tighten
>the locknut (used same procedure as with any other bearing adjustment).
>
>Loctite (LockTight, spelling?) seemed to cure the problem with the last
>two bicycles I've owned, but loctite doesn't help with the headset on
>my current bicycle.

You must de-grease the headset before using locktite. De-grease it and
use grease only where it is needed. If there are grease on the
lockring, locktite won't do the job.

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* I said, "I'm crazy ma, help me!"    * University of Trondheim            *
* She said, "I know how it feels son, * The Norwegian Institute of Tech.   *
* 'cause it runs in the family."      * Division of Physical Electronics   *
*       - The Who, Quadrophenia       * e-mail: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no  *
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