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NFrom: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
NNewsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
NSubject: NEWS/VN: Eagleburger unruffled on Japan aid to VN
NDate: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 12:54:50 -0500
NMessage-Id: <199210301754.AA22375@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
NSender: cuong@haydn (Cuong T. Nguyen)
NReply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
NDistribution: world
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N10/29
N
NEagleburger unruffled on Japan aid to Vietnam
N
N    TOKYO, Oct 29, Reuter - Acting U.S. Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger
Nsaid he was unaware of a reported Japanese decision to resume aid to Vietnam.
N    He told reporters that even if the report were true, it would not affect 
Nthe pace of improving U.S. relations with Hanoi.
N    Such a move would be a major breach in a U.S.-led economic embargo against
NHanoi which Tokyo unofficially supports.
N    The Washington Post said on Wednesday Japan had told U.S. officials it 
Nwould resume economic aid to Vietnam shortly after Tuesday's U.S. presidential
Nelection.
N    But a Japanese Foreign Ministry official told Reuters on Wednesday that
Nnegotiations with Vietnam over fresh aid were at a stalemate because Hanoi 
Nwould not pay back debt it froze when Japan stopped official development aid.
N    "We would be delighted if we could resume such aid after the (U.S.)
Npresidential election, but that is unrealistic," he said.
N    The Washington Post quoted an unnamed U.S. official as saying Tokyo may
Nannounce its reported move around November 6.
N    Eagleburger, in Tokyo for a conference on aid to former Soviet republics,
Nsaid the subject of Vietnam was not raised at his meeting on Thursday with 
NPrime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa.
N    Asked if Japan had informed the State Department through other channels 
Nthat it was resuming aid to Vietnam, Eagleburger said:
N    "Not that I'm aware of, but as you know, I've been gone (from Washington)
Nfor 24 hours and anything could happen while I'm gone but as far as I know,
Nthere's been no communication."
N    He said he would discuss the issue at a meeting later in the day with
NJapanese Foreign Minister Michio Watanabe.
N    Asked how a Japanese resumption of aid would affect U.S. plans, Eagleburger
Nsaid: "I can't imagine that it would have any impact on our decision (on)
Nimproving ties with Vietnam."
N

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tienn@thu.sps.mot.com (Tien Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [SOC] Bi' Quye^'t Kho?i E^'
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:16:18 GMT
Reply-To: tienn@thu.sps.mot.com

> >From hho@scf.usc.edu Thu Nov  5 17:09:43 1992
> >From: hho@scf.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
> 
> >'Satan''s Message:
> >>              Ca li -di de^? kho' ve^`
> >>         Trai -di co' vo+., Ga'i ve^` co' con.
> >>Good luck,
> >>Thi.nh (Qu~y Satan) 
> 
> >Co`n da^n ba?n xu+' Cali thi` sao Qu~y Satan? :-)))
> >H.
> 
> De^? tho^i Mr. H. .  Nghe na`y :
>   
>           Ca li pha?i bo? Ca li
>       -Di qua xu+' kha'c la`m cho^`ng la`m da^u.
>           Mai ve^` co' cha'u co' con
>        Con con cha'u cha'u la.i qua xu+' ngu+o+`i.
> 
> NeNeNeNeNeNe
> Saint Satan
> 
  Tui co' nghe ca'i ca^u na`y o+ dda^u ddo' ne^n nha('n la.i cho ba` con
  nghe cho+i .
 
         Na('ng Ca li em ddi ma` cho+.t ma't
         Bo+?i vi` em ca^`m ca'i check well fare . 

  Tie^'n .
From: minh@druhi.ATT.COM (Minh D. Tu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] Japanese Science and Technology Management Program
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:24:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.050628.22831@cunews.carleton.ca>, nguyen@turing.scs.carleton.ca (H.H. Nguyen) writes:
> 
> 	However, one major thing that turns me, as a non-US resident,
> off is the tuition fees imposed by US educational institutions on foreign
> students. It may be roughly $15,000 a year and I may not be allowed to
> work outside campus.
> 
> 	Too expensive for an education !!! 
> 

There are two kinds of universities in the US: state-supported and private.
The private universities charge the same tuition, no matter who you are. The
state-supported schools a lower amount to the state residents, but higher for
anybody from out of state. In this program, the schools are Carnegie Mellon
Univ. (private) and U of Pittsburgh (state-supported). Carnegie Mellon would
charge the same tuition to US residents or non US residents. U of Pittsburgh
would charge a lower tuition to US citizens or immigrants that are residents of
Pennsylvania, but a higher amount to US citizens of other states or foreign
students.

Minh Tu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyen@turing.scs.carleton.ca (H.H. Nguyen)
Subject: Re: [MISC] Japanese Science and Technology Management Program
Organization:  Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:06:28 GMT

In article <9211101547.AA15690@phakt.usc.edu> hho@scf.usc.edu writes:
>'H.H. Nguyen''s Message:
>>>#######################################################################
>>>#################   New Program Announcement   ########################
>>>#######################################################################
>>>
>>>
>>>            JAPANESE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
>>>
>>>The Japanese Science and Technology Management Program (JSTMP) is a new
>>>program jointly developed by the University of Pittsbugh and Carnegie Mellon 
>>>University.  The Program commences in January 1993, and students and 
>>>professionals in the engineering and scientific communities are encouraged 
>>>to apply.  
>
>
>-- 
>*******************************************************************************
>Hung P. Ho, Jr. (John)     USC DENTISTRY    PH.SYSTEMS          CCCOGP  
>                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com



	Greetings,

	There are a lot of things I like about the program: (1) Science
and technology, whatever these things may mean :-), (2) Cross-cultural
aspect (American-Japanese and me of Oriental background !), (3) Future 
field trips to Japan (I love this !), (4) Some management training (?).

	The Japanese language should not be too bad, although its 
writing is awfully hard to remember, for me at least.

	However, one major thing that turns me, as a non-US resident,
off is the tuition fees imposed by US educational institutions on foreign
students. It may be roughly $15,000 a year and I may not be allowed to
work outside campus.

	Too expensive for an education !!! 

	Regards,
	H.H. Nguyen

Disclaimer:
	"... I have a dream ..." (M.L. King),
but it is too expensive, so wake up and be back to reality :-)) (H.H. Nguyen)
From: thn89@nwscb.att.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: News Petition for Ly Tong
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:01:00 GMT
Organization: Saigon.COM Public Access BBS, Sillicon Valley CA  (408)739-1520

Hi all netters,

Please write a pettition letter to yours senators to ask them use their
influence to pressure Vietnamese government not to sentence Ly Tong to
death.  As long as Ly Tong is alive, he is going to be a thorn in the
Vietnamese government eye.  Hopefuly someday he might be a spark of fire
to light up the fire in our people to fight for freedom for our country.
So please use your spare time to write to your senators.

Thanks

Thien Ngo

************************ message included ******************************
11/09

VIETNAM'S FIRST HIJACKER MAY FACE DEATH

    HANOI, Nov 9, Reuter - A former South Vietnamese air force pilot who
hijacked an airliner to drop anti-government leaflets over Ho Chi Minh City 
goes on trial next week and faces the death sentence if convicted, an official
newspaper reported on Monday.
    Ly Tong, a Vietnamese-born naturalised U.S. citizen, was captured on
September 4 after he hijacked a Vietnam Airlines plane and dropped leaflets 
from the cockpit urging people to overthrow the government.
    No one on the plane was hurt and he was quickly captured on the outskirts 
of Ho Chi Minh City after parachuting out.
    Tong was first captured in 1975 before the Communists defeated the
U.S.-backed South Vietnamese government. He escaped in 1980 from a re-education
camp and travelled 2,500 km (1,600 miles) across Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia
and Singapore before being resettled in the United States.
    He will be charged with hijacking and attempting to overthrow the
government, the newspaper said. The case is scheduled for November 12 and 13.
    "This case has an extraordinarily serious charactor and has attracted
attention from both domestic and external public opinion...both charges bear 
the maximum punishment -- the death sentence," Lao Dong Chu Nhat newspaper 
quoted Nguyen Quang Thanh, deputy head of the People's Supreme Court, as saying.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: hthai@farad.elee.calpoly.edu (Ho Thai)
Subject: Re: posting
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 17:30:33 GMT

In article <4332@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> ktruong@copper.denver.colorado.edu (S O S) writes:
>In article <BxC4sB.DrM@eis.calstate.edu> ledinh@eis.calstate.edu (Ding Le Nguyen) writes:
>>nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
>
>
>will u %$$#-ing cut-it-out ?? :-)))  enuff is enough !!! 8===0 
I agree this guy must be retarded.
From: cs252be@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: Re: Testing...please <look-in>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:31:23 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <pnl1.721672745@Ra.MsState.Edu> pnl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Phong N.H. Le) writes:
>Cha`o ca'c ba.n phu*o*ng xa!
>Mo^.t sinh vie^n tronh pho^' nho? 
>HO.C DdA.I hay la` DdA.I gi` ddo'
>Tie^'ng Vie^.t thi` kho^ng ra`nh...sigh.
>Tu*` xu*a to*'i nay, to^i ra^'t muo^'n ho.c chu*~ NHO
>Nhu*ng kho^ng co' tha^`y da.i
>Anh Chi. na`o co' du'p ddu*o*.c thi` ke? na`y   
>ca?m ta.
>:

O* hay ca'i anh na\y,  chu*a bie^'t bo\ ma\ dda~ ddo\i ddi.  Anh dda~ no'i 
tie^'ng Vie^.t anh kho^ng ra\nh ma\ la.i ddo\i ho.c chu*~ Nho la\ nghi~a 
la\m sao?....
Just being a smart A...
From: T_Kevin_Dang@NeXT.COM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: testing...
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:08:11 GMT
Reply-To: T_Kevin_Dang@NeXT.COM


test test test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From:       HOANG MANG
Subject: Re: Reponds to Si~ Ho^`
Originator: vcsc587@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:33:54 GMT

In article <1g2qTB1w165w@andee> andee!nguyen@sonyusa.Sony.COM writes:
>>>TRANH DAU CHO TU NHAN CHINH TRI TAI VIET NAM
>
>>>Ta.i San Diego,  mo^.t tha`nh pho^' na(`m o+?  cu+.c Nam tiie^?u
>>>bang California,  Hoa Ky`, co+ so+?  Ma(.t Tra^.n Quo^'c Gia
>>>Tho^'ng Nha^'t Gia?i Pho'ng Vie^.t Nam dda~ cu`ng vo+'i ca'c ho^.i
>>>ddoa`n ngu+o+`i Vie^.t ta.i ddia.  phu+o+ng tham gia sinh hoa.t
>>>Ho^.i Cho+. ddu+o+.c  tha`nh pho^' to^? chu+'c ha`ng  na(m. Tre^n 50
>>>sa('c  da^n kha'c  nhau dda~  ta^.p trung  ta.i dda^y qua ca'c
>>>gian  ha`ng mang  ti'nh dda(.c  thu` cu?a  tu+`ng quo^'c gia#.
>
>
>>        Eh?!!!!!  When was this?  Ho^.i Cho*. dda~ ddu*o*.c to^?
>>        chu*'c va`o lu'c na`o & o*? dda^u va^.y ???
>>        Ho^.i cho*. na`o dda~ ddu*o*.c tha`nh pho^' San Diego to^?
>>        chu*'c ha`ng na(m ???
>
>My friend gave me a clip of news he cut from a Vietnamese paper published in
>San Diego. I still have it, but don't know the name of the paper.
>It started with San Diego, date... made it thought that the Fair was
>conducted in San Diego. I am not San Diegan and have no way to verify.
>Sorry.>>Trong di.p na`y Thi. Tru+o+?ng San Diego, Ba` El Cajon dda~>>dde^'n  tha(m gian  ha`ng va`  le^n tie^'ng  se~ ho^~ tro+. co^ng
>>>cuo^.c dda^'u tranh cu?a nha^n da^n Vie^.t Nam.
>>        Who ?  Ba` El Cajon ??? !!! ???  Who is that ???
>>.       Something is wrong here.  Maurence O'cornor is City of San Diego
>>        current mayor.  And Susan Golding, a county councilwoman , has
>>        just been elected yesterday to be the next mayor in a very close,
>>        nasty and some what dirty race with Peter Narvajo, an UC Irvine
>>        economic professor, (52% to 48%.)
>
>> >        -Si~, a confused San Diegan.
>>----
>>Me^'n,          "I look at thing from one point of view.............Mine."
>>Si~ Ho^`,
>>INTERNET:       siho@megatek.com        UUCP:   {ucsd,uunet,suntan}!megatek!siho
>
>From the article, it said, Ba` Thi. Truo+?ng El Cajon dde^'n tha(m ....
>then I interpreted Ba` Thi. Truo+?ng San Diego, named El Cajon,...
>I am sorry about my language, and i'd like to correct (i hope):
>Ba` Thi. Truo+?ng El Cajon dde^'n tha(m....
>Maybe, Ho^.i cho+. dduo+.c to^? chu+'c ta.i El Cajon ???
>Is there a city named El Cajon? You tell me!

OF COURSE THERE IS:  I THINK "EL CAJON CITY" IS SOMEWHERE NEAR
EAST SAN DIEGO OR NORTH PARK (NOT REAL SURE, THOUGH).  ANYWAY,
YOU KNOW VIETNAMESE .... THEY ALWAYS WANT TO TRANSLATE OR GO.I 
TA</C THINGS, BUT OFTEN GET LOTS OF PEOPLE CONFUSED !!!!

>Sorry folk!
>Merci Si~ Ho^`#. That was a good feeeeedback!
>
>
>
>---
>nguyen@andee.UUCP (Nguyen Duong)
>ND-BBS.
From: delval@leland.Stanford.EDU (Alvaro del Val)
Subject: Re: Europa, Europa
Keywords: european datas
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:39:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.182228.3598@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.212049.13042@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, delval@Csli (Alvaro del Val) writes:
>>country's government). Though the asymmetry in this regard between
>>male and female was also very pronounced in the USA, the data were
>>much better than for any European country. For all the usual European
>>snobbery about the US, I think this is one aspect where the US is much
>>farther ahead (as shown also by attitudes towards sexual harassment,
>>etc), notwithstanding the undesirable streaks of puritanism that often
>>make their appearance in public life.
>
>The data point of USA having more women at work sounds surprising -
>though I guess it depends where the figure for "Europe" comes from.
>There's a significant difference in the Nordic countries and the rest
>of Europe, for example.  You mentioned Norway, and that sounds surprising.
>

It was surprising to me as well. Unfortunately, I read it in a
newspaper which I threw away, so I cannot really back this up with the
actual data. The data were given by individual countries, most from
Western Europe, and all of them were rather unfavourable, as I
remember them. So regional variations matter, but not as much.

>But re: attitudes about "sexual harassment", I would say it shows
>mostly sexism and an unnatural attitude about sex.  I don't see a
>reason "sexual harassment" should be separate from any "harassment",
>much less why women should be treated differently than men in this
>respect.
>

I don't think that the question is whether it's different from other
harrasment; that's mostly a matter of semantics. It's rather to
acknowledge that it is a problem that happens to affect mostly women,
and that for a long time it has been seen as acceptable behavior in
many quarters. I did mention that puritanism plays a role in US
attitudes, but the reports from the European press that I read at the
time of the Clarence Thomas hearings appeared to take the whole issue
not as a case of sexual harrasment but as one more example of the
puritan concern with, say, politician's sexual lifes. 

Anyway, my point was not so much to get into some sort of contest
about whether things are better for women in the US and Europe (even
if I very much made it look like that was my intention), but to offer
some more data, which, as the poll in the original message of this
thread, indicate that things are not so rosy in (Western) Europe as we
often like to think.  (I was including myself in the bit about
"European snobbery about the US")

>//Jyrki

Alvaro
Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:9438 soc.culture.french:8381 soc.culture.german:8044
From: berne@nova3.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: European's Toilet Habits
Date: 10 Nov 1992 01:56:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: nova3.stanford.edu

In article <jkanz03.721341412@ursa> jkanz03@ursa.calvin.edu (Jeffrey Kanz) writes:
>
>Gibt's hier kein Soc.culture.french?
>
Koenntet ihr kein franzosisch lernen in Calvin Univ:)?
--
--------
"History punishes those who come too late."
	M.Gorbachev, a few weeks before the Nov. 9, 1989 opening of the wall.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Subject: Re: Greek government threatening MILS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:10:34 GMT

amils@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex MILS) writes:


>MILS is a non-government organisation funded by the public, in partic-
>ular Australian-Macedonians.

 This is a joke, right?

  Panos Tamamidis
Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:9380 soc.culture.french:8273 soc.culture.german:7931
From: 189500959@ucis.vill.edu (!GIZYNSKI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german
Subject: Europeans with  no sense of humor typical French!
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:59:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Nov2.182144.28331@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mstrouck@nyx.cs.du.edu (Stroucki!) writes...
>In article <1d2rjjINNs5e@ensta.ensta.fr> sylvuck@peche7.ensta.fr (Sylvain Chretien) writes:
>>
>>	est-ce-que les europeens se lavent les dents avant ou apres un repas?
>>	est-ce-que les europeens prennent une douche avant ou apres etre aller a
>>la piscine?
>>	est-ce-que les europeens desinfectent le conbine telephonique d'une
>>cabine publique avant ou apres utilisation?
>>
>>	et bien d'autres que je ne mentionnerai pas ici, aifn de ne pas choquer
>>certaines ames sensibles.
> 
>Je m'en foutre.
> 
>Stroucki!
What's a matter? don't you have a sense of humor ASSHOLE?

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189500959@ucis.vill.edu ou sur

                                Merci a tous!
                                           Bob
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.soviet
From: azaleski@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Andrzej Zaleski)
Subject: Re: European's Toilet Habits
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:01:26 GMT

In article puerta@camis.stanford.edu writes:
>In article CMLEE@MTUS5.BITNET writes:
>> I am european (from Catalonia), 
>Catalonia?. Where is that?. Is that a country in Europe?
>--
>Angel Puerta

Let me say something on this issue here. This is a very ancient approach.
We are approaching 21st century now, not 16 or 17.
If Catalonian feels more Catalonian than Spanish (Portugese?), what's
so much wrong about it? Does this really matter that Catalonia is not a
separate country? More respect instead of irony and we have less one
problem instead of having one more. Same refers to dozens of other
countries and places in Europe.

Andrzej Zaleski
From: dk0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DIMITRIOS KOUVATSOS)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: "5.1 Gav\*0" surrenders its "palik" skirt and legs to "6.8 Kaz
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:43:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <9211052041@zuma.UUCP>, sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>In article <100649@bu.edu> gavras@acs.bu.edu (alexis gavras) writes:
>
>>>YG: Ekeinh h kinhsh me ta poihmata ti apogine? Tha exoume synexeia?
>
>>Siga t' auga...
>
>Poor "Gav*0" has walked full force into a "Young Turk Web" in Michigan
>(yet again). Well, anyway, during World War II Armenians were carried away
>with the German might and cringing and fawning over the Nazis. In that

Somebody please update this ITASP (Idiotic Turkish Artificial Stupidity
Program) to that Mr. Gavras is a totally different Greek person than the one it
refers to, and that it should not knee-jerk "Gav*0" for every "gav" string
that appears in anyone's name... And again, the Armenians are to blame and
nia, nia, nia... just so much plain turkish idiocy...

>
>Serdar Argic
>

Dimitris Kouvatsos
--
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: re: the religious minority in Corfu
Date: 5 Nov 1992 12:36:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

(I typically don't respond to this kind of crap but this was funny)

My friend Hasan B-) Mutlu writes:

> >looking out both for the interest of the US and the interest of Greece.
> 
> Will it make the crimes of the Greek governments disappear? Not a chance.
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  <<In Corfu Jews were subjected to violent attacks and almost constant
   persecution by its Greek population. They had to row in the galleys
   even when they had committed no crime. They had to provide food and
   lodging for soldiers on demand, were required to go to Greek law courts
   on the Sabbath as well as during Jewish festivals, and as elsewhere in
   the Byzantine empire they were compelled to act as public executioners,
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   adding to the public wrath to which they were normally subjected. After
   Venice took control of the island in 1386, conditions became even worse.>>
                                        ^^^^

Hasan B-) Mutlu forgot to mention that one of Greece's little known 
but important contributions to humanity is the elixir of eternal life. 
As such, the Byzantine emperors of 1386 were able to continue living
well into the 21st century, and hence be held accountable for their
crimes.

For example, Constantinos Paleologos, the last emperor of the
Byzantine empire, sat out the Ottoman Empire's (tm) occupation of
Greece, and appeared in the 1930's as Constantine Caramanlis. Another
Byzantine emperor, Constantine the 3rd, is in reality Constantine
Mitsotakis, Greece's current Prime Minister. An offspring of
Palaiologos was even found on USENET, posting last year on
soc.culture.greek and demanding his empire back.

Both emperors had a relatively boring few centuries living it up in
Florida. Efforts by well known prosecutor Hasan B-) Mutlu to bring
them to justice have been futile so far, as the supreme human rights
court that is handling his petition has a hard time believing that
todays's Konstantine Karamanlis and Konstantine Mitsotakis (Greece's
President and Prime Minister respectively) have been alive since 1362.
This will be an extremely hard case to prove for the prosecution, but
Hasan B-) Mutlu's able team is confident that justice will finally
prevail and the Criminal Greek Government of 1362 will finally pay for
its hideous crimes.


Spiros
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.german