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From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB over cable TV (!)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 10:18:32 CDT
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

tjonz@caliban.Corp.Sun.COM (Todd Jonz) writes:

> 
> Robert Whitehead writes:
> 
> 	> 	> The other day I was at the local Radio Shack, and was
> 	> 	> chewing the fat with the clerk....  He had indicated that
> 	> 	> they were having a run on PL-259 to F adaptors. He asked the
> 	> 	> next guy that asked for one what he intended to do with it.
> 	> 	> The guy bubbled over on how when you hook your CB set to the
> 	> 	> cable TV line, you can talk over town with no interference.
> 	>
> 	> When I worked for the Shack, we got a copy of a letter that a CB'er
> 	> sent a district manager, complaining about the 10 meter rig he had
> 	> bought.
> 
> The letter that Bob refers to is attached below, or at least I assume it's th
> same letter.  This so tickled my fancy when I first saw it here a couple of
> years ago that I saved a copy.
> 
> Every time I see a manufacturers warning like "Do not immerse toaster in
> water while operating" or "Do not position body under tire while car is on
> jack", I wonder what kind of an idiot needs warnings like these.  Then I
> pause for a moment and remember the attached letter....
> 
> 
> Todd, KB6JXT
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From hurta@hcvdl.csc.ti.com Tue Sep 17 15:24:31 1990
a lot of stuff deleted


------

This reminds me of the name and address gathering training film that RS use 
to show us from time to time.  There was a character in the film whose name 
was "C. B. Rig".  The RS alumni will remember this film the rest of you may 
let your imaginations run wild.  The two of them must have been related.

 :-)

There was an equally humorous letter received by RS regarding a relationship 
between aborted human fetus brains and computer memory.  I wonder if anybody 
has that letter sitting around.  If not I can paraphase it however, it will 
lose something in the translation as this was about ten years ago.

Steve KA0VYB
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer)
Subject: Re: Barry Electronics in NYC et al...
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:49:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.034940.29760@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.153900.13146@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer) writes:
>>In article <7117@transfer.stratus.com> fms@sw.stratus.com (Faith Senie) writes:
>Not at all.  Her point is that the smoke is *physically unpleasant* to
>the customers.  The objection is not that _they_ smoke, but that they
>force _us_ to breathe acrid fumes.
>I would question the business sense of people who can't be bothered to
>remedy a problem that is making their store physically almost
>intolerable to many of their potential customers.

	Some customers, perhaps.  Probably me, too.  But I don't let it bug
	me to the point I lose perspective on why I am doing business with
	someone.  

	How much can one reasonably expect customer preferences to define
	personal behaviour on the part of the owner?  It seems to me that
	one can reasonably expect quality of service and other business
	related concerns of the owners, but it is entirely unreasonable
	to indirectly define their personal behaviour.  This might be more
	clear to you if the issue wasn't smoking (given its recent 
	unpopularity) in the store, ie substitute age, ethnicity, race, etc
	for familiar reasons we all agree are incorrect when used to
	differentiate.  Discrimination is wrong, whatever the reason given.
	
>>Show a little tolerance, OM!  
>Er... that was a YL, OM!  :)

	Personal custom: I use OM as a genderless "pronoun" to refer to a
	fellow ham.  

>:- Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu 

					Rick Spanbauer
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB over cable TV (!)
From: isoper@matrix.cs.wright.edu
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:18:21 EDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Wright State University College of Engineering and Computer Science
Nntp-Posting-User: isoper

> 
> When I worked for the Shack, we got a copy of a letter that a CB'er
> sent a district manager, complaining about the 10 meter rig he had bought.
> 

Ah that was a classic piece of litature, I still have a copy buried some where
in my collection of classic posts. 

73, Wes Soper WB8CEH
From: dwilson@s850.mwc.EDU (David L. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: unknown signals
Date: 9 Oct 1992 07:46:40 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Most of the 75 Bd/850 Hz signals you heard are USN and NATO
encrypted traffic.  You did not give freqs for the other stuff so it
is hard to say but I suspect you are seeing the 
French mode sometimes called TDM2 or Moore 2-channel.  It transmits
2 channels simultaneously at 96 BD.   There are several products
that will copy this mode and also modes such as ARQ-E, ARQ-E3, FEC-A,
and FEC-S.  One of them is the Universal M-6000/M-7000/M-8000 series
--around $1000--I have aboth an M-70000 and M-8000.  Also another
decoder called the Hoka will do it.  Unviversal is in Reynoldsburg,
Ohio.
They also sell books by a German (in english) named Klingenfuss that
discuss these modes and list freqs.
--
David L. Wilson                 dwilson@s850.mwc.edu
Department of Mathematics       Amateur: AC4IU (ex-KD4ASW/KO4EQ)
Mary Washington College         Home Phone:    (703)898-1084
Fredericksburg, VA  22401       Office Phone:  (703)899-4744
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: johnr@mik.uky.edu (john s roberts)
Subject: Attaching A Vertical To My House
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:06:02 GMT

I am interested in purchasing a dual band (144/440Mhz) antenna to
mount on my house, but am at a loss about trying to figure out how
to attach it to my house.  First I would like to know if the cable
that I currently own (from a previous non-ham related project)
will work for this antenna.  Here is what the side of the cable
says:

BELDEN M 9058 DUOBOND PLUS RG-6 TYPE 75 OHM E86432 (UL) CATV ---
LL85170 CXC FTI QP

I have no idea what this means, but I do have about a hundred feet
of it and would like to use it if it is at all possible.

To mount the antenna to the house I am planning on using parts from
Radio Shack unless someone would like to recommend a better source.
I am looking at their 1993 catalog on page 100 and am wondering if
the mount which attachs to the eaves (figure 7) would be very
sturdy.  It attaches to the eave in three places.  If anyone sees
any of the other attachments in the catalog or anywhere else that
you think may be better please suggest them.  Also, one point about
the attachments which are nailed or screwed through the shingles:
how do you prevent the holes from leaking.

I really do appreciate the help that this group has offered to me
thus far.  Hopefully in the next few weeks when someone else asks
these questions I will be able to help them.  Thanks for your
advice and support!

John
--
--==+  John S. Roberts, Jr.  Internet: johnr@mik.uky.edu (NeXT)       +==-- 
--==+  3466 Flintridge Drive   Bitnet: johnr@ukpr.BITNET              +==--
--==+  Lexington, Kentucky       Work: (606) 272-1417    Ham: pending +==--
--==+  40517-1119                Work: (606) 257-6100    DoD: 727     +==--
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info on 2m glass/disguise antenna wanted
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:16:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Oct9.201621.4768
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

In article <randall.718565141@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

>Let me ask a really basic question.  What good is a "low
>radiation angle" on 2m?  Most of us who use 2m mobile are just
>trying to hit repeaters.

Distance.  You have a limited amount of power.  You want as much as possible
of it to travel parallel to the ground rather than upward into the sky.

Hitting repeaters is non-trivial if you're using relatively low power
and the repeater is a few miles away on a short tower.


-- 
:- Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu 
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0359
:- The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
:- Athens, Georgia 30602 U.S.A.          amateur radio N4TMI
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,alt.cd-rom,misc.consumers
From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:45:07 GMT

In article <+!jp7bp@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams) writes:
>>Man that seems a little childish from my viewpoint since Matsushita is
>>ACTUALLY PANASONIC. Whats the big deal? Besides what makes it "inferior"
>>to a supposed REAL panasonic labelled device anyway.
>
>I can understand your viewpoint since you lack the ability to distinguish
>between Matsushita which is Panasonic's parent and Matshita which is

And you evidently lack the ability, or courtesy, to use the word '(sic)'
when appropriate.  I guess most people thought you were being as careless
with your spelling as you evidently are with your purchasing.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: dul@cimtwo::kendul.enet.dec.com (cimtwo::kendul::dul)
Subject: The Master DX'er Award, what is it ??
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:19:49 GMT
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

The DXAC is considering a Master DX'er Award.

Does anyone remember what the award requirements are? I know I've read
them somewhere, but can't recall where.

tnx,
Ken K8ZR
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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,alt.cd-rom,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:40:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvvG3p.DKo
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>Since I posted my note, I've received Email from two others who have been
>ripped in a similar manner.  One was at Comdex last year.  I don't 
>recall the location of the other.  I've asked both to send me a 
>paper copy of their note so I can forward it to the Prosecutor.  This 
>should be enough to start a federal case.  I hope they will post publicly.  
>I won't post private Email.

>My suspicion is MAX got strapped for money and is ordering merchandise 
>only when they can pay the COD bills from customer deposits.  My check
>was cashed the day after the hamfest (Monday) which lends credibility
>to this theory.
*----
Too bad - it really seemed like such a nice operation.  If you're
pissed off enough, please write to the Commercial Exhibits Chairman
for the Dayton Hamvention (and Indianapolis, where he exhibited).
It might give you some satisfaction if they can't exhibit next year.
On the other hand, Dayton doesn't seem to care about anyting but the
money they get.  Max Systems WAS selling what appeared to be
factory-new (and reconditioned, clearly marked) Matsushita drives
at Dayton, and unfortunately, the circumstances you detail here
make it look like they're intentionally ripping off the unwary.
All of my dealings with them were cash-and-carry, so I got what
I paid for.

Tom-Tech Enterprises in Ashtabula, Oh. has some good deals on
CD-ROM drives, and gives very good mail order service.  They also
exhibit at hamfests.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 10M Mobile Ant. Recommendations
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:21:11 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Fort Davis VLBA site) writes:

>The outbacker antenna is fine for multi-band operation, but can't hold a 
>candle to an honest steel 1/4 wave whip for 10m operation.  You may be 
>pleasantly suprised at the price, as well.  CB'ers, who have been running
                                             ^^^^^^
>upper HF QRP for decades, swear by 'em.
          ^^^

And QRO, too.  No loading coil to heat up with the higher power that
some CBers use.

Dave
-- 
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Project Leader, OCR products            Amateur Radio Callsign KZ1O
Internet: dbushong@wang.com
From: jtg0707@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jui Tien)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: wanted: mods for Alinco DJF1T
Summary: Alinco DJF1T
Keywords: mods
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:46:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw6sp4.GBp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


I just got my new DJ-F1T an hour ago. Now, what do I have to do to get the
the thing to receive AM Aircraft. This may be a FAQ, but I can't seemed to 
find any info on the net.(i.e.  I have no luck with that server at UWA.CA
so far.)

Will a kind soul please post the mods for this radio to the net?   

Thanks in advance. 



J.T.
From: rick@lrark.UUCP (Rick Mobley)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QSO's wanted
Keywords: North Dakota, Arkansas
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:14:33 GMT
Organization: Little Rock Arkansas Tech User Group

In article <wb9omc.718306090@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu> wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) writes:
 >
 >Hi, all!   I am trying to nail down the last few states I need
 >for a 10-10 Worked All States award.  Other than the local stuff,
 >Michigan, Illinois and Ohio, I still need North Dakota and Arkansas
 >WITH a 10-10 number.  
 >
 >If there are ANY North Dakota and/or Arkansas hams who read this group
 >and you have a 10-10 number, I'd like to try to set up a sked.
 >
 >From my QTH, Arkansas is always a tough nut to crack.  I'm guessing that
 >mid-day and early afternoon will be relevant times.
 >
 >North Dakota will probably fall into the late afternoon and early evening
 >time frame from my QTH.
 >
 >I can make skeds on Saturdays or Sundays and in the evenings after about
 >5.30 PM EST....which is, uh.....2230 UTC, right?????   :-)
 >
 >Arkansas?  North Dakota?  Ya out there?  Any freq. from 28.3 to 28.5
 >works for me barring local ugly noise......  :-)

I'll work a sked with you. I still have a 10 meter loop in the air and we
might make it. I'll have to dig out my 10-10 number (its close to 20 years
old now). Weekends are fine after noon. Name the time.

 
 >I'd kind of like to get this in before 10 meters goes completely to shit....
 >
 >Duane
 >WB9OMC/QRP


-- 
rick@lrark.UUCP          *    bang path --> uunet!ddi1!lrark!rick    *
Ricky Mobley             *          lrark (501) 224-9454             *
1800 Sanford Dr. #4      *    GEnie Unix RT SysOp address LRARK      *
Little Rock, AR 72207    *     WB5FDP.AR.USA.NA wb5fdp.ampr.org      *
From: pjml@swmis.nerc-swindon.ac.UK (Pete Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Motorola Gemini power-FETS for 2-meter linears
Date: 12 Oct 1992 06:41:19 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I am in need of a high-power (150 watts continuous-duty) mobile linear for
2 meters. There seems to be nothing sensible on the market, so I have just
invested in a set of applications-notes for the Motorola Gemini-series of
dual-power-FETs which seem ideal for the task. Has anyone got any experience
of how well these perform?

-Pete Lucas    G6WBJ    :         'Openness' is like Virginity;
 pjml@swmis.nsw.ac.uk   : Frequently claimed, but rarely substantiated.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws
Subject: Special Bulletin 37  ARLX037
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 07:46:22 GMT


============================================================== 
| 	Automatic relayed from packet radio via              | 
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                              |
==============================================================

ZCZC AX97
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 37  ARLX037
>From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT
October 13, 1992
Relayed by KB8NW/OBS & BARF-80 BBS
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX037
ARLX037 DXAC voting

The ARRL DX Advisory Committee (DXAC) has voted not to pursue the
following items:

1. Changing the DXCC country status of former USSR republics. (2 Yes
14 No)

2. Consideration of a DXCC rules revision to permit participation by
stations located on board docked ships in ARRL Awards Programs. (3
Yes 13 No)

3. A study of an advanced DXCC Award.  (3 Yes 12 No)

4. Changing the DXCC country status of 4U1VIC. (3 Yes 13 No)

These items have been removed from the DXAC agenda.  No further
action will be taken at this time.
NNNN
From: hugo@vnet.ibm.com (OA4HV)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 10:03:05 EST
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Digicom 64 (HELP)


Digicom 64 is a TNC-2 emulator/terminal program for the Commodore C64.

I got DIGICOM version 3.51 including the mini-editor, with no user manuals.

I will appreciate very much, if somebody can e-mail to me the appropiated
documentation or any hint on how to get it.

73 de Hugo (OA4HV)
hugo@vnet.ibm.com
From: root@wherever.somewhere
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Making my day
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:48:12 GMT

Everyone besides Brucie please ignore this.

Bruce@Pixar.com (Bruce Perens) writes:

>	jgd@dixie.com - John De Armond

>If there is a positive consensus to do so, I will fire up an auto-cancel  
>program on their news postings. Mail votes to bruce@pixar.com .

In the ageless words of Clint, "Go Ahead, Make my day."  

This note is posted so as to demonstrate how futile your little exercise
would be.

Newbies.  Sheesh!

John
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: kerchunking repeaters
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:27:10 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:

>Actually, kerchunking is the one behaviour that absolutely sets the
>professionals apart from the amateurs - the professionals KNOW that
>their radio is going to work, that the repeater is going to work,
>and that they can simply pick up the microphone and make a call.

Even when the "professional radio operator" (say, a taxicab driver) is down 
in a hole or on the edge of the repeater coverage, they never chunk?  Really?
Must be weird atmospherics that causes something that sounds just like
a kerchunk to come out of my scanner speaker fairly frequently.

>It's the amateur whose equipment has proven so unreliable that it has to
>be tested every time it needs to be used.

Gee, our little "amateur" repeater that I built from junk has had 
downtime over the last three years that can be measured in minutes.
Somehow even though I know with about 99.999% certanty that when 
I key the mic the repeater will be functioning, I find the common kerchunk
to be most invaluable.  "How" you might ask?  Well, we designed this
repeater to have good reciprocity for an average mobile radio/antenna
installation.  That means if I hear that the kerchunk is noisy, I know I'm
probably in too bad a spot to use the repeater.  See, unlike those
"professionals", we don't have the resources to blanket an area the size
of Metro Atlanta with a linked or trunked system.

Guess I'm just an amateur.  After all, that's what my license says.

John
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,alt.cd-rom,misc.consumers
From: bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams)
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:03:32 GMT

Man that seems a little childish from my viewpoint since Matsushita is
ACTUALLY PANASONIC. Whats the big deal? Besides what makes it "inferior"
to a supposed REAL panasonic labelled device anyway.

Bill William

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,alt.cd-rom,misc.consumers
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:59:46 GMT

jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
>This is a fraud alert.  The following letter was FAXed and certified mailed
>to MAX systems AKA "Mr. CD" on Friday, October 2nd.  As a result of my 
>initiating legal action and sending this letter, I received a refund
>in a letter postmarked the following day, Saturday the 3rd.  My friend
>has yet to receive his refund.

>MAX systems sells mailorder and sells at a number of Hamfests and 
>Computerfests.  Since they have done this type of deal to several people,
>I suggest you steer a wide path around them.  
*----
This really surprises me, since I've bought from him a few times.
I've never had a problem with the merchandise, and prices were
very good.  I have considered mail-order from him (but he's been
at enough hamfests this season that I haven't needed to).

I'd like to hear the outcome of this.  I'd be a lot happier to
hear that he's been overwhelmed by orders, rather than that
he's running a fraudulent business.  I'd also like to hear
any other details about the purchase you'd care to share.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: New QRP Kit list!
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:49:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

Here's the complete QRP Kit list, at least so far! 

                                QRP Class
                              -------------


                    Transceivers                       Kits
                 -----------------            -----------------------
 $179 Built
                   800-647-1800

                Tejas
                   17 to 80 Meters
                   Watts unknown
                   $139.00 Kit
                   Fax 713-840-8608

                A&A
                  20 to 40 Meters
                  5 Watts
                  $159.95 Kit
                  714-952-2114

                Ramsey
                   Receiver     $29, 20 to 80 meters, Kit
                   Transmitter  $29, 20 to 80 meters, Kit
                   1 watt
                   716-924-4560

	       CM Howes
                  40 and 80 meters
                  Watts Unknown
                  $164.95
                  219-594-3661

                QRP Books

                  QRP Notebook by Doug DeMaw W1FB
                  W1FB's QRP Notebook By Doug DeMaw
                  Solid State Design for the Radio Amateur
                  QRP Classics By ARRL
                  Your QRP Operating Companion By ARRL
                  W1FB's Design Notebook by Doug DeMaw

     
Hope this helps in some way!

73!

Jeff

-- 
 Jeff Jones  AB6MB         |      If we do not succeed,
 jeffj@seeker.mystic.com   |      then we run the risk of failure.
 Infolinc BBS 415-778-5929 |      Vice Pres. Dan Quayle
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