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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:03:00 LCL
Reply-To:     Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@pcohio.wariat.org>
From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.WARIAT.ORG>
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Subject:      perferred server in 2.15c

MRF>  Also as a matter of intrest to me, on a server with an arcnet nic and an
MRF>ethernet nic is it better to set the ethernet as primary card or does it
MRF>matter?

  If one of the cards is a connection to another network and one is not,
then make the NIC that is NOT an internet connection the 1st card.
Since this is a 2.15 server, if the first NIC cannot be initialized or
has problems, no other NIC is then usable.  If the 2nd NIC isn't
initialized, the 1st one will keep your users working.  This does not
happen in 3.x.

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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:11:24 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Data Compression NLM

>Does anyone know of a server based data compression utility?
>Sort of like a PKZIP.NLM???
>Thanks.
>Rick.
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        Why, now that you ask, yes I do know of one: NetWare 4.0. This has
the minor benefits of being transparent when the need to unpack occurs
and it repacks quietly in the background when cpu cycles become plentiful.
Drew Major is quite proud of his handiwork on this item. Otherwise, no, I
have not heard of a third party server based scheme.
        Joe D.
From: TON@FREYA.LET.RUG.NL (Ton Roovers)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: CD ROM Listserv
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:33:29 GMT
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"J.Lance Wilkinson, 814-865-1818" <JLW@PSULIAS.bitnet> writes:

> There *is* a CD-ROM listserv-based discussion list.  You have the
> correct address for the list, <cdromlan@idbsu.bitnet>.  I don't
> have any idea if it is ported to a newsgroup or not.

Yes, there is a newsgroup 'bit.listserv.cdromlan', which is gated
by netnews@auvm.american.edu. I suppose it is the same list...


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From: mikef@som.yale.edu (Michael Fanara)
Subject: Re: Yet again printer accounting
Organization: Yale University School of Management
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:12:12 GMT

In article <NOVELL%93012113384452@SUVM.SYR.EDU> Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET> writes:
>I suspct there's a few of us out here who would be interested in any
>information you can gather on print accounting and quota-ing. We have been
>
>A summary of any useful information you receive would be most welcome.

I've not had the chance to test this program, but I've found a printer 
accounting package on wuarchive.wustl.edu in the msdos/lan directory called
pcont21a.zip.  The package is PCOUNTER from , let me find the docs, 
      A.N.D Technologies
      P.O. Box 64811            Internet   - 71011,3570@compuserve.com
      Los Angeles, CA  90064    Compuserve - 71011,3570

Like I said, I have not tested it, but the docs say that it will support
16 queues on 8 fileservers. It's shareware $45.00 (US), I think its a 
small price to pay for a product that could help us all.

If anyone out there is familiar with the product, please speak up.  I'm just
curious as to why I haven't heard of this product before.  It must be one of 
those golden nuggets buried deep down in some FTP site.
If anyone gets a chance to set it up before me, please post the results. I have
to wait until we buy the IIIsi before I can test it.

Hope this helps.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:57:00 GMT
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From:         "A.J. Sheehan" <GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK>
Subject:      Bounced mail

I'm getting bounces from a user and site called:

smtplink%BGROGAN_at_AUX-HQ@CCMAILER

Would the moderators please check this out before it becomes a major problem
as several of these faulty accounts have been in the past? I assume everyone els
 lse is getting these as well. Thanks.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:28:51 EST
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From:         Andy Maxwell <andyl1@SUN.APA.ORG>
Subject: Re: concurrent users

Someone writes......

Hello,

Which is the case if I have a 20 user license of Novell?  Is a user slot
(from the license) taken up when a user is attached (i.e. runs netx) or
only when the user has actually logged into the file server?  In other
words, can I have 50 users attached (because they have loaded the odi
drivers and netx) to my server as long as only 20 users are logged in, or
am I restricted to 20 attached users?

Thanks,
Peter...

*******Response*
Yes, the people attached will take up slots on your server.  They appear
as "not-logged-in" in Monitor.  I'm running a 5-user version of 3.11 as
a router (and trashcan for my crap) and after 5 connections are used people
running netx will get a "no response from server SERVER9" or some such
error.  It's a pain, but it keeps you from setting up your whole server
under sys:login !!

Andy Maxwell
andyl1@sun.apa.org
"The views stated above are barely my own and certanly not those of anyone
else."
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:03:45 -0500
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From:         PK <PKARREL@TRENTU.CA>
Subject:      Re: dbase & tmp files

It seems some who are using dbase_iv and have to go after the tmp files dbase
leaves behind. I know from testing that dbase missess these files even
after users have exited properly. Is there any one out there that has
settup dbase so the program deletes these tmo files.

Pkarrel@trentu.ca
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: IP Tunnel loses connection
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:53:46 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Joe doupnik referred to a "watchdog packet" apparently sent by
Novell Servers.

Q: What is this watchdog packet?
Q: Is it encapsulated in IP (when using IP tunnel)?
Q: Does this packet have any effect on perfomance (of an IP tunnel)?

On the same IP subnet (using IP Tunneling anyway between a WS and Server),
I see about a 40% loss in performane.

However, on different IP subnets (using IP Tunneling between a WS and Server),
I see > 40% (about 60%)/

Q: Is this normal?
Q: Why would the performance be less going thru a (Cisco) IP router?

Thanks in advance.

--tony
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From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: network numbering (of IP tunnels)
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:16:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.102039.13819@infodev.cam.ac.uk> ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
>I still haven't seen a coherent explanation of the internal network number.

OK.  The internal network is intended to handle servers connected to
more than one external network.  Imagine a server connected to net A
and net B.  Without an internal network, the server's services must be
homed on one of the two nets, so let's says it's net A.  Now a client
on net B wants to access those services.  If the route the client
chooses to net A is through the server, then the packets take one hop
only -- the hop on net B -- and all is well.  If the client happens to
choose a different router -- all routers connecting net B to net A,
including the internal router in the server, will look equally good to
the client -- the packet will take two hops: one on net B, and then
another unnecessary hop on net A to get to the server.

Having an internal network forces the services to be an equal distance
from both net A and net B.  Now the client will always choose the
route through the server, because it will be advertised as the
shortest route: two hops, one over net B and then a second "hop" over
the internal net.  That hypothentical route through another router
will be advertised as three hops: B, A, and then the internal net.

The internal net also provides a little bit of fault tolerance.  With
the services in our server attached to net A, if the NIC connected to
net A fails, the services and any connections to them will be in
trouble.  When the services are on an internal network, if the failed
NIC can be shutdown gracefully, access to the services could be
continued for any clients which can still reach net B.  This probably
doesn't happen so cleanly in real life often enough to worry about,
but it strikes me as a pretty slick feature.

None of this explains why a server with only a single network interface
needs an interal network.  About the best explanation i've been able to
come up with for that one is "consistency."
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
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Date:         Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:06:15 -0500
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From:         CRHINE@INDYVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Virus rampage - solution

Date sent:  20-JAN-1993 18:00:57

In the interest of spreading knowledge, I thought I would indicate
what the problem was for our "virus".  You may recall that the
prompt on numerous machines was disappearing indiscriminately on
boot up.  Didn't matter what type of machine, and it was noticed
more and more frequently through the department; however, booting
from diskette showed the prompt.

The problem was an update on network files *and* using the call
process within the autoexec.bat file on the individual workstations
with DOS version 4.01 or earlier.  Changing the last line in
the autoexec from "call network" to "network" solved the problem
on these machines.  Again, no problem with DOS 5.0.

Thanks for all who helped isolate this worrisome quirk for us.

Carl Rhine
SPEA Network Systems Manager
CRHINE@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU
Indiana University/Purdue University at Indianapolis
(317) 274-0531
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:42:58 RSA
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Comments:     Resent-From: Sanjay Patel <074SAN@witsvma.wits.ac.za>
Comments:     Originally-From: Sanjay Patel <074SAN@witsvma.wits.ac.za>
From:         Sanjay Patel <074SAN@WITSVMA.WITS.AC.ZA>
Subject:      Performance issue of ethernet

Hi there everybody.
We are currently running tests on a NETFRAME machine and I would like to know
from anyone who have a run any tests on a similar machine and or topology.
What I  would like to know is the following
(1) what is the maximum amount of workstaions that you could hang of a 10baseT
    ethernet segment before performance starts decresing and bridges etc need
    to be introduced
    I need to run 70 workstations . Will this be possible? if so what are the
    performance issues?
 (2)How will an application like DBASE perform with all workstation running
    and each creating its own database and working on it?
 (3)How will a superserver like a NETFRAME perform if it were to do all the
    bridging i.e 2 ethernet segments and 1 tokenring segment coming of it
    Currently I have 2 ethernet servers and 1 token ring server each forming it
    own network and all 3 being briged by a router running ROUTER.EXE with 3
    cards in it. The performce for this setup is slow especially when I run
    an I/O intensive application like DBASE.
 (4)Has anyone ran any comparison of different SUPERSERVERS like a NETFRAME or
    SUN SPARC or RISC 6000 etc . If so what kind of results did you get
    and what did you opt for in the end and why?

 Any reply's to any of the above questions would be greatly appreciated
 I will try and summerize my end findings and post it on the list
Cheers

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From:         Stephen McCloud <CCSDM@AMBER.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Sitelock 3.3

Does anyone have the 3.3 release of Sitelock? We are considering
upgrading because the literature says:

    User has the option to use the swatcher
    TSR or to meter and virus protect files
    with a non-TSR method.

Does this mean I can protect Windows applications and DOS
applications without a TSR? Does the TSR method or not-TSR method work
(I mean really work without aborting a few applications) or are there
still problems as previously discussed on this list?

I hate to get suckered into another Sitelock upgrade that has
problems.

Stephen McCloud                       ccsdm@amber.indstate.edu
Computing Services and Facilities
Indiana State University
Terre Haute IN 47809                            (812) 237-3793
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:55:31 EST
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From:         JAY SISSOM <JSISSOM@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      C API Question

I need to do the following from within a C program:

   MAP G: = MEDICINE/SYS:APPS

(No, I don't want to run MAP.EXE from my C program, I want to use the
API calls to do it without MAP.EXE)

I have the MEDICINE/SYS:APPS string, and I would like to map a
drive letter to it so I can use fopen, etc.  I have a very old copy of
the Novell C function library, however I can't find something this
simple!

If anyone has a clue how to do this using the Novell C library or even
the assembly equivalent, I would appreciate it.

Thanks
Jay Sissom
Indiana University Department of Medicine
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:16:49 -0500
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From:         Gary Flynn <ACS_GARY@JMUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Supress Banner on Flex-IP..How to?

I want to suppress the banner page on print jobs coming from
unix workstations. There is a fix to enable a -J/nb switch for
the NFS product. Does anyone know if this fix has been
migrated down to FLEX-IP? Thanks,

Gary Flynn
James Madison University
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:18:03 -0800
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From:         Brian Olson <olson@CSUFRES.CSUFRESNO.EDU>
Subject:      MAIL BOUNCE

Why is it that everytime I post something to the list, it seems to
post ok but I get a bounced message saying:

     From Postmaster@ccmailer.aux.gasou.edu Wed Jan 27 10:56:29 1993
     Returned Mail: Could not find any To: or Cc: recipients.

I think someone else mentioned this as well...


Brian Olson
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From: erick@demorgan.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke)
Subject: Re: Everywhere Access
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:01:15 GMT

> prw1@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu writes:
>Could someone please tell who sells Everywhere Access?
>
>Thanks.
>Paul Weber

Supro Network Software Inc.
705-652-1572
info@snsi.com

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:35:16 EST
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From:         NCUT000 <NCUT@SLUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Server sob story (long)

...
> We have been having server abends on a daily basis for about 2 months.
....
..... Re GPI's and NMI's on various tested machines.... (lots deleted)

Alan,
From your message, it sounds like the common denominator is your
drives?  If this is the case I have to ask:  Have you tried a
completely new machine (drives and all)?   What do you have for power
protection/stabilization?  What NLM's are running on the server?


Nick Cutry                         voice: (315)379-5971
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From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.WARIAT.ORG>
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Subject:      GatorBox or Shiva Fastpat

F>    I have been receiving requests from my Mac users on the localTalk cable
F>to have access to the ethernet network.  I am looking into the Cayman System
F>GaytoBox and the Shiva Fastpath as a solution rather than purchasing individu
F>ethernet cards for them.

  If you are looking to access the ethernet for a performance
improvement, that is not the way to go.  If you are just looking for
access to the ethernet network at slow localtalk speeds, those boxes
work okay.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Jan 1993 14:43:33 EST
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From:         SAD.JB@VHLAWSIS.LAW.NYU.EDU
Subject: Re: SMC DUAL CHANNEL EISA CARDS

The server I am thinking of buying has 32 mb of memory.  Am I wasting the
money buying the 16 additional megs of RAM.  I've been reading in the list
about problems with going above 16 mb of RAM in an EISA machine.  I would
really like to know now before I buy the box.  Thanks for the info about the
SMC card...Maybe I won't buy it.  Julie Baker, Asst. MIS Director, NYU Law
School
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:30:50 EST
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From:         Don Kazem <dkazem@NAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ODI vs. NDIS

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> wrote:

Should I assume from this posting that it isn't going to be packet
drivers, and that, in the long run I should think about doing
something else?
---------------------------------------------

I am sure that enough many folks would be using the PDs that will keep
you from having  to look for a new job.

Our philosophy about software that is going into our production networks is
that it has
to be commercial. Only in  extreme cases do we write code in-house
(although we have the talent base),  and we  also shy away from public
 domain and shareware stuff.   Now for our experimental stuff,  we use
anything that we can to make  them work with.

I would be very interested to have your opinion on the ODI vs. NDIS issue.
Which
would you pick, if you had to go with one?

dkazem@nas.edu
F.Don Kazem-Zadeh
National Academy of Sciences
Washington, DC
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From: roma@mark.udmurtia.su (Roma Dimov)
Subject: test
Organization: MARK ITT
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:15:43 GMT

test
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