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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Packers still suck
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:44:57 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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In article <1992Dec21.210312.22823@weber.com>
steve@weber.com (Steve Keshen) writes:

> Subject line says it all!

Hey, now here's a real objective and informative view of the Pack's
recent success...I really like how you defended your argument with
riveting facts and documentation.  And the nifty way you tied your
supporting body of information back to your opening statement was sheer
genius.  ;-)

Yes indeedy, Steve...your wealth of ignorance astounds me! :-)

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi)
Subject: Re: Posting game updates (was Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFFALO!)
Organization: Vanderbilt University CS Dept.
	<1993Jan3.234755.10553@PacBell.COM>
	<1993Jan4.020149.4304@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:41:17 GMT

Some of the sites get the updates on time and thus John Gloria, I
commend you for taking the time and effort to post the updates.
Please do keep up the good work.

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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills-Oilers
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:35:58 GMT
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Organization: what.. me.. organized?


Boy what a choke job by the Hou defense. What a pathetic job at playing
zone defense. In a zone, you have to take away the deep stuff first, *then*
the short pass. To give up so many big plays deep in a zone is awful.

The Bills did catch 2 breaks;

o That catch by Beebe after he stepped out of bounds. The ump on the line
  was not looking at Beebe's position. Bad officiating, bottom line.

o That INT by the Bills in OT. Talley just tackled the Hou WR allowing
  the INT to be made.

Nice half-time adjustments by Levy and his coaches. They spotted 
something in the Hou secondary and the Oilers' coaches didn't adjust
at all.


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Subject: Re: Niners Win (Montana is Back - I hope)
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:10:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.224732.28016@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon  
Storga) writes:
> <1992Dec29.051026.12084@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)  
writes:
> >FINAL:  Niners  24  Lions  6
> >Montana stats:  12/15  126 yds  2 TDs
> >Young stats:  12/18  153 yds  0 TDs

Uh-oh. Steve didn't throw for a TD within the first two quarters. Never  
mind what he *did* do (in this game, or during the rest of the season).  
Better take him off that potential-MVP list. While you're at it, don't  
bother trying to resign him, either.

> >for his FIRST TD!   Montana received a well deserved
> >ovation from the Candlestick faithful and I can assure 
> >you that the patrons at the MNF game at Charlie Browns
> >were equally ethused!  His performance for 2 quarters was
> >pretty good, I'd say. Two TD's, and 126 yards passing, NO INTs.
> >Better than some QBs did this year playing 4 qtrs and playing
> >all year long!

I hope you're not seriously trying to compare Montana's two measley  
quarters in a meaningless (and not very challenging) game with anyone  
else's complete season, are you? No one would really try to put that  
across as logical, would they?

> Also better than that other QB who played the first two quarters.  You
> know, the one being considered for MVP.

OK, OK, I'm convinced...give Joe the MVP. Y'know, you can have any opinion  
you want about anyone--Montana, Young, the guy down the street, anyone.  
"Free country" and all that. But the obvious sour grapes (against every  
other breathing QB, but especially Young) that's evident in some of these  
Joe-For-Sainthood posts I've been reading today is enough to set one's  
teeth on edge.

Geez, someone please pass the leftover Christmas candy--quick! ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: maynard@convex.com (Mark Maynard)
Subject: Re: Giants Coach - Boyz fans read too
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:30:37 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.82.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
>Soo    8:30 AM EST - ESPN says the number one pick for the giants new head 
>coach is Cowboys defensive Coordinator Dave Wanstead (<-spelling?)
>Also the steelers owners and giants owners are friendly and have been 
>talking. D.W. was nearly selected as steelers coach and they regard him
>highly,  according to steelers owners, they giants have been comparing 
>notes with them.

Yes, he was nearly selected and, if I remember correctly, removed his
name from the ballot so to speak.  Doesn't sound to me like a guy
who's ready to let go of a good thing.

>The best part about this is that Dallas, being NFC East also, will lose 
>their d-coord to US!!!!!  Inter division rival.

Don't count on it.

>Life is good
>Life is sweet

Yeah, it is.  Clinched the division at 12-3, bye in wk1; I'll take it.:-)

>I love everyone!  I am a happy camper, I am tossing my valium, and pulling 
>out of Giants group therapy!
>Adriene the Happiest Giants fan in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

I hate to burst your bubble, Adriene, but I'd hang on to that valium
if I were you.
Mark
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bill@neocad.com (Bill Bentley)
Subject: Re: Minnesota Vikings - 1993 Schedule.
Organization: NeoCAD, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:46:59 GMT

My newspaper listed the following:

Home: Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Chicago, Detroit, Dallas, New Orleans
      Kansas City and Los Angeles Raiders

Away: Green Bay, Tampa Bay, Chicago, Detroit, San Francisco, Washington
      San Diego and Denver.

Bill B
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys '91 LB sacks (was Re: Aikman a weakness?!? (was Re: I
Date: 27 Dec 92 00:16:48 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <ljiud3INN3ga@langtry.cs.utexas.edu>, joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel
 Just) writes:
>In article <1992Dec24.064538.100109@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (
ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
>>...stuff deleted...
>>V Smith (strong side OLB) and Norton (weakside OLB)
>>combined for 0 INTs, and one sack (by Smith). Last season (w/o playoffs) they
>>combined for 0 INTS, and 000 sack
>                          ^^^
>>...
>
>Ken Norton had 2 sacks last season.  Both came in the same game (the 2nd
>Philadelphia game, I believe) when Norton anticipated the snap count and
>knifed in between the guard and center for the sack.
>
>This is a minor point, but I've seen this mistake made so many times in the
>media that I had to correct it.
>
    I stand corrected..... After reviewing some magazines I found that Norton
    did have one sack (not two) against Philly last year. So, Norton and V
    Smith combined for two sacks and 0 INTs in two years. Something I can't
    brag about!

    Malik..... Go Cowboys........

    
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: New Super Bowl
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:41:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

I've got abetter moron! Why not have two seperate leagues!
From: dsj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Daniel Scott Janecek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: VIKINGS WIN!!! 6-3
Date: 24 Dec 1992 01:20:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: dsj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: dsj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Dec21.202237.12395@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, by chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey):

> Vikes are gonna go to the superbowl after all!!!  Maybe you should write to
> Santa for an offense, the Vikings defense isn't going to teach the Packers a
> thing, Houston had a good defense and a good offense, the Packers won.  A
> defense is at a disadvante, no matter how good it is, the longer it stays on
> the field.  The Packers are near the top of the league in time of possesion.
> Look for a boring game until about the end of the third, or the start of the
> fourth.  At that point a gasping, tired, DB for the Vikings will watch Sterling
> Sharpe blow by him and into the endzone for a TD.  Further, a lot of the
> Vikings points have been defensive, tell you what, the Packers haven't been
> making a lot of offensive mistakes.  If anyone runs an interception back for a
> TD it will be Buckley.

	Yeah, yeah, yeah. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT CHRIS?? It just doesnt'
matter anymore for the Vikings!! Maybe the Vikings will LET the Pansy
Packers win! It JUST doesn't matter! Your idle statistics (ie minutes
per game, etc) JUST don't matter! The only thing that matters is that
the Vikings are GUARANTEED to be in the playoffs. Maybe the Pack will
win, maybe they won't. The Vikings need not be up for this game, the
Division is theirs. Maybe that GASPING, TIRED, DB from the Vikings
will be a 3rd or 4th stringer BECAUSE the VIKINGS will put him in so
they can rest their starters for the FIRST playoff game that I'm sure
the Packers will enjoy watching from home!!


			HEE!HEE!

			dan
From: cpg@caribbean.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Curt Goedde)
Subject: Re: Ray Handley Firing
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 14:23:33 GMT

In article <4204@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM>, tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly) writes:
|> Any rumors on what will happen with Simms?  And will they dump HorseHead?
|> 
|> Actually, any rumors / information would be appreciated as it is a little
|> difficult for me to get any decent Giants information.
|> >
|> >Nix

Another strong rumor has it that Ray Handley has already agreed to step down
at the end of the season.  The announcement will be made after the Giants
finish the season at Philly.

Rumors persist that Parcells does want the job of head coach, however, with
additional player selection responsibilities that he did not previously have.
This means that GM George Young would either step down or eat a lot of humble
pie.  The Giant owners are firmly behind Young, therefore, I doubt very much
that Parcells will be back.  Also, you must remember, Parcells really ticked
off most of the Giant management with the timing of his retirement.  Of course,
Parcells could force the issue by going public with his strong desires.  The
fans (most of whom still think Parcells is a god) would then rally behind him
making it very very difficult for the owners to bypass Parcells.  This could
get very interesting and ugly.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: tom@vexcel.com (Tom Baltzer)
Subject: Dan Reeves has been fired!
Summary: Bolan no longer quiet.
Keywords: Broncos to seek new head coach!
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:37:37 GMT

That's right, just heard on the radio that Bolen fired Dan Reeves.
No word on new head coach yet, but look out 49ers, I'm sure we're 
interested in Shanahan.  or maybe Wade Phillips will be moved up.

This is all very interesting in light of some recent polls on the
subject:

	Bronco Players voted ~79% to keep Reeves
	Bronco Fans voted ~59% to keep Reeves in current capacity
			  ~30% to keep with removed responsibilities.

Well, the future looks interesting!

Good luck Broncos!

Tom.



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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: AFC vs. NFC drivel
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:04:59 GMT

In article <C046D1.33E@acsu.buffalo.edu> carrato@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Carrato) writes:
>You make it sound as if there are TONS of criteria which favor the 
>NFC. There are 2 criteria, the mean and the max. The mean (overall
>record) favors the AFC, 
Really? I am not sure about that. In the records Gary listed, I think
it slightly favors the NFC.

>the max (Superbowl winner) favors the NFC.
>What other criteria are there?
The one SI listed. NFC division winners vs AFC and AFC division winners
vs NFC.

>The problem with YOUR argument is that you simply ASSUME that 
>"best of NFC" == "NFC". 
The problem with your argument is that you make the same mistake
Strand and Meeks made. Whenever I mentioned "best of NFC > best of
AFC", all shit comes out, assumptions, underlying implicit definition,
hypothesizd corollary ....

"best of NFC" == "NFC"?  Is that your words or mine?

>You would rather take one team and extrapolate
>to an entire conference than consider a large pool of data which 
>shows conference strengths as a whole.
>
>Why does this absurd thread keep coming back? 
Because I know there are AFCers who keep trying to argue with me
that "best of NFC != NFC", even though I made no such claim.  
Isn't that interesting?

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Organization: Gizmonic Institute - Home of the "Big G Burger"
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:06:26 GMT

<1992Dec24.001707.4181@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) :
><1992Dec22.194755.21291@coopsol.com> gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) :
>>Young might be the next Danny White.
>
>Yeah, right.  And Troy Aikman is the next Joe Montana.

Nah, Troy's got better physical talent.

>We're never going to get meaningful career stats from Young due to
>his age, but comparing him to a scrub like Danny White is absurd.

That "scrub" had the highest rated passing stats for much of his career.
He led his team to a few playoff victories too.  How many playoff
victories does Young have?  White also went to a few Pro-Bowls.  How many
Pro-Bowls has Young appeared in?

Danny White was not the best QB, certainly not in Elway's or Staubach's
class, but he was hardly a scrub.

>Since I know that Gordon isn't quite that ignorant as a football fan,
>I expect he doesn't believe this himself, and merely posted it to get
>a rise out of John Gloria et al.  Gordon's probably giggling to himself
>even as we speak.

I was referring to a QB taking over for a legend.  White took over for
Staubach, Young for Montana.  White had a lot of talent at his disposal
for much of his starting career and put some impressive stats together,
but failed to win the big one.  I only note that Young is in a similar
situation.  Although he missed 6 games last year (his first year starting)
they had a better win/loss percentage with Bono.  Now he's having a
great statistical year, but he's still got to compete with Montana's
shadow (like White had to with Staubach's shadow) and that means winning a
SB.  I was referring to the similarities in their starting roles.

>Too bad those giggles will turn to whimpers in the coming weeks.

Why do you say that?  Will Gloria become the newsgroup moderator?


Gordon
-- 
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of whatever company you think I work for.  So there, thhhbbbt!
Message to Kodak:  Freedom for Dan Bredy.
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: MNF announcers about Montana
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:20:31 GMT
 <103346@netnews.upenn.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <103346@netnews.upenn.edu>
satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:

> > Those stupid Monday Night FB announcers were driving me nuts with the
> > damn praise of Joe Montana and the 49ers. I mean a few nice words would
> > suffice. You would have thought Jesus was on the field by the way those
> > idiots were acting. I mean they literally spent 3 hours praising them.
> > Does anyone feel the same? A little praise is nice but such blatant
> > favoritism is stupid.
> 
> While I agree that Dan, Al and Frank were their stupid drooling self over
> Montana's playing, I'd chalk this one to the rating-misers.  This game was
> meaningless to the Lions and Niners (maybe Lions fans might want to see
> how well Ware would play and maybe watch Barry in action).  The only reason
> the mass populous would tune into this game would be to see Joe play!  The
> MNF announcers were trying to give the audience what they wanted. 

I agree with you, Satish.  And forget the 3 Stooges...to the crowd at
Candlestick, is WAS as if Jesus had walked onto the field (and not only
the first time he walked out...everytime!)  I even caught myself
getting enraptured and I don't really care that much for Montana!  And
give Dan, Al and Frank some credit (albeit little)...on the Lions
subsequent possession after Joe's first TD, they expressed the hope
that Barry would break an 85 yarder for a TD (even though they were
somewhere around their own 30;-)).  And though they did drool in excess
on the 49ers in general, they did spray a few kudos towards Saunders
and even Andre Ware on occasion. ;-)

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Land of the Giants
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles vs. Saints
Date: 3 Jan 93 23:35:35 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Well through most of the game the Saints were dominating but early in
the 4th quarter, Cunningham throws a pass to Barnett to cut the lead to
20-17.  On the Saints first possesion, Hebert throws an INT.  The
Eagles score on this possesion as well.  With a little over 9 minutes 
left in the 4th quarter, the score is Eagles up by 24-20.

satish nair
ray is gone!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:18:30 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

In article <1h5f36INN4u5@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
> >>Montana WAS great,  Young is OK,  Bono's a wannabe.
> >>
>I agree.
>
> >>--
> >Young is OK! Incredulous! Are we a bit jealous Steve? Check out the 
> >stats Steve, re: Highest rated QB in the NFL. Bono, in your eyes might 
> >be a wannabe, but Bono is a BONOfide QB in the NFL and could easily be 
> >a starting QB anywhere else.  Your response is typical of certain
> >net.whiners. :-)
> >
> >-- 
> > ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
>
>Danny White was the top rated QB in the league in 86, SO WHAT !
>(until he broke his wrist)week 8
>
>There are lies, damn lies 
>and quarterback ratings......
>
>Go Cowboys CRUSH Jerrys Kids !!!!!
>

True, but putting it in Cowboy terms. Which would you rather have, Steve
Young, or Troy Aikman? I think most people, excluding Cowboy fans, would
chose Young. And not just because of statistics.

Tom Wolf
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: zcjm0f@wwnv67.hou.amoco.com (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Deion Sanders
Keywords: Nicknames
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:43:42 GMT

In article <29DEC199209573074@vill.edu> 187701458@vill.edu writes:
>
>Hi Gang,
>
>	Can anybody tell me what Deion Sanders nicknames are? I know
>of two, Primetime & Neon Deion. Or have I pretty much covered it? 
>Just curious.
>


Sander-Claus


>
>
>		Jagdeep Sahni
>		A Hard Hitting, Trash Talking, Philadelphia Eagles Fan
>		Joyner, Evans, Thomas. Show the Saints who is really
>		All Pro!!!
>		Bring it home for Jerome!


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From: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM (Kenneth Melcher)
Subject: Re: NEW VIKING QB?!
Reply-To: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:55:18 GMT

What about Montana to KC?  KC's an otherwise strong team in need of a QB to carry it beyond the slightly-better-than-mediocre level they've sustained since Marty S. took over.  Besides,  who better to breathe some life into the second most boring offense (behind NO) in the NFL.



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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Green to go full strength against the Pack.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:54:57 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

From what I interpreted from Dennis Green's comments today,
it seems that the Vikes are going full strength against the
Pack, this Sunday.

IMO, part of the reason might be that the Vikes have not
palyed the improved version of the Packers. The Packers
have defenitely improved after the first week when the 
Vikes beat them in OT.  A game against a good team like
the Pack, who are very desperate to win, will of great
preparation for the playoffs.

Secondly, Green would like to establish who is the real
boss in the NFC-Central. A lot of people might get the
feeling that the best team in the NFC-Central is the
Pack eventhough the Vikes have the Division title, going
by the Pack's recent performances and also the lack luster
show of the Viking O.  Green would like to put that
to rest by a Viking victory.

Any comments on this from other Vike-fans???
S.h
Vikings: 1992-NFC-Central Champs !!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Draft stuff
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:54:14 GMT

In article <103359@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>Since the season is over and since SOME of us don't have anything to do
>but sit on our thumbs waiting for next season, would anyone like to take
>a stab at what draft prospects will do the most good for their respective
>favorite teams?  Here's how I see the first four picks (unfortunately, 
>my team traded away their first choice :-( ..
>
>Seattle: Lincoln Kennedy OT, Washington.  Rather than spending another first
>	round pick on a QB, they should try to get a better O line and this
>	guy will be one of the best soon!

Ok.
>
>New England: Garrison Hearst, RB, Georgia.  Thgey've already spent a few 1st
>	rounders on offensive linesman (Pat Harlow, Eugene Chung) so I think
>	they'll probably address the need for a running game.

So, you don't think Marshall Faulk will be allowed, or want to, come out?
>
>NY Jets: Reggie Brooks, RB, Notre Dame.  Blair Thomas was a bust, they need
>	a running game to take some heat off their rookie QB.

If pick #3 comes and goes and Florida St. LB, Marvin Jones, has not been
selected; there ought to be an investigation!
>
>Phoenix: That defensive lineman from 'Bama.  Can't remember his name for the
>	life of me.  Anyways, the Cards need a pass rusher and this dude is
>	it!

His name is John Copeland and look for either he or his bookend, Eric
Curry, to be the Buccaneer's choice in the #6 slot.
>

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