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From: kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: "my wife and I are pregnant" - NO WAY
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:48:03 GMT
Organization: nope

In article <1992Dec19.175312.18764@newstand.syr.edu> kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Keith E Gatling) writes:
>Well, I'm not an English teacher, and I don't play one on TV either, but I
>think I'll enter the fray on semantical grounds here.
>

Student: Teacher, what part of the body is the fray?
Teacher: Fray?  Fray isn't a body part.
Student: But it says right here in my history book that the general was
	 shot in the thick of the fray.

Student: Mama, Teacher says I have to have meanings for words.
	 What does pregnant mean?
Mother:  Uh, carrying a child
...
Student: Teacher, pregnant meand carrying a child
Teacher: Good. Now use it in a sentence.
Student: The fireman ran into the burning building and came out
	 pregnant.


OBTW, Lynn Johnston's first published book was entitled _David,
We're Pregnant_.  Ms. Johnston currently draws "For Better or
Worse"




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From: rrg@rtp.fibercom.com (Rhonda Gaines)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: THANKS Re: How long to deal with a cold before seeing doctor?
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:59:06 GMT
Organization: FiberCom, Inc., Roanoke, Virginia

#In article <44192@fibercom.COM> rrg@rtp.fibercom.com (Rhonda Gaines) writes:
#
#   Well, Cherie (12 weeks) has her second cold.
#   The first one, I took her to the
#   doctor the day after she got it.  They prescribed Ceclor (sp?)
#   3x/day for 10 days.  This time, I decided to try and treat it with
#   Tylenol and the vaporizer.  She's had this head cold since last Sunday,
#   the 20th and it doesn't seem to be breaking.  I think it's time to
#   go with the doctor.  She doesn't seem to have an ear infection but I
#   think 8 days is long enough.  What's the net wisdom in this area?
#

Thanks for all the advice.  I decided to go ahead to take Cherie to
the doctor yesterday.  No ear infection, just a nasty head cold (2nd
one).  The doctor prescribed Triaminic drops (decongestant) with 3 refills since
this is her second cold.  So at least if she gets another one in the
near future I don't have to spend $33 at the doctor's office just to
get a prescription.

 -rhonda
  mom to Cherie 12.5 weeks!

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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: klj@cbnews.cb.att.com (karen.l.carr)
Subject: Precocious 7.5 month old (sort-of Cute Things They Say)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:37:55 GMT


Christmas eve, Alison was playing on our living room floor, Alex (my
husband) was out somewhere, and the dog, Asta, was being as hyper as usual.
The dog finally got on my nerves.  I forcefully told her to lie down (as in
-loudly- stating "Asta, Lie Down!!!!!).

Behind me, this little voice piped up "La Da!"

I turned around and Alison was grinning at me, looking as amazingly cute as
she generally is!

Is this kid precocious or what!!!????!!! 8^)


	Karen



PS  Despite the fact she hears those particular words ALOT around the
house, I think she really is into repeating sounds right now.  Christmas
day the cat was on our bed and Alison had joined us for a few momements
before we were ready to get up.  We were teaching her how to pet the cat.
The cat was purring.  Alison says "Rrrrrrrrrrr".  Well, it sort-of does
sound like a purr!
From: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Funny Things They Do (47-yo)
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:38:17 GMT
Reply-To: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Organization: Intel Corp.


On Sunday, Andrea (7 yo) had her Campfire Christmas party.  At the party, they
made playdough cut-out ornaments to hang on the tree.  The ornaments were cut
out with cookie cutters and there was a star, a tree, and a ball.  When Andrea
got home from the party, she put her ornaments on the kitchen table and went
to her room to play.  Daddy (Jim) was watching a football game and during
half-time, he wandered into the kitchen.  He saw the 'cookies' on the table
and thought they looked good.  You guessed it!  He took a bite out of one and
immediately ran to the sink to spit it out.  He said they were awfully salty.
I informed him they were ornaments for the tree!  Boy, did he feel badly at
eating one of Andrea's ornaments.

***************************************************
	Linda Harbin       Hillsboro, Oregon 
	503-696-2261       linda@littlei.intel.com
***************************************************
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik )
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:29:47 GMT
Organization: (Evil Eye Creature from Mars, Inc.)
Followup-To: misc.kids,soc.men,alt.atheism,alt.sex.wizards

In article <1992Dec27.173429.5492@newstand.syr.edu>,
kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Keith E Gatling) wrote:
> As I've said before, I'm glad I circumcised because it makes body
> maintenance so much easier.  Sure, some of you have said that taking care of
> an uncirucmcised penis isn't that difficult, but let's face it, I don't
> remember to floss every morning and that's supposed to be easy too.  I gave
> up on wearing contacts because as easy as they were to deal with, they were
> more complicated than just reaching for a pair of glasses and being done
> with it.  Sure, my parents did it without my consent.

I find it interesting to note that back in the Nordic countries, where
health care is one of the major issues in society, nobody supports
the idea of circumcision, unless you belong to a religious order/sect
that has this tradition going on. Actually, if I would circumsize
my child in Finland people would think that I'm a sadist :-). Anyway,
my point is that aren't we really dealing with a tradition, and not
a practical thing?

Kent
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From: jws@hp835.mitek.com (Jeanetha Wemken)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: **> DISCOVERY TOYS <**
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:52:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: OpenConnect Systems, Dallas, TX

In article <1992Dec30.191509.6219@oakhill.sps.mot.com> johnm@oakhill.sps.mot.com writes:
>In article 29906@sparky.imd.sterling.com, marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:
>> ... my wife asked if we could
>>have a catalog. "Sure," the discovery toys hawker said, "that'll be four 
>>dollars."  My wife shot a look at the hawker that, if looks could kill, 
>>convinced the hawker to give us the catalog for free.
>
>That IS ridiculous!! That's not standard policy, she was just trying to rip you off!
>My wife and I are real new in the toy business. If anyone wants a catalog, we'll
>mail it to you for FREE! Several of the toys are on sale in Jan/Feb.

I too have been charged for a catalog to take home to my husband after
attending and buying at a Discovery Toys party.

I didn't think too fondly of the "sales" representative.

I haven't bought anymore toys from her either.

Jeanetha

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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: susan@gaia.arc.nasa.gov (Susan Benjamin)
Subject: Re: Male daycare provider/center worker
Followup-To: misc.kids 
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center - SGE
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:17:59 GMT

The daycare center that my daughter (almost 5) attends has two
male teachers -- both named Bill!  They are each head teachers,
one for 3 year olds and one for 4year olds.  They are great and
liked by all the kids.

The after-school care that my son (6 years) attends currently has
two male teachers, although they've had more in the past.  They
take a herd of thundering kids and wear them out on the playground!
I really appreciate this, especially in the winter when I can't
pick him up until after dark.  I know he's gotten some play time
under his belt.  The after school care is on-site at the elementary
school and one of the teachers also organizes and runs the noon
football "league" for the older grades.

Note that in California, these folks are *teachers* not workers or
providers.  They've each gone to college to study early childhood
education, some have degrees in it.

Susan Benjamin
susan@tenaya.arc.nasa.gov


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: elise@ticipa.pac.sc.ti.com (Elise Wade)
Subject: Re: federal record service corp
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:35:26 GMT

In article <u7bhi5s@zola.esd.sgi.com> gboja@romenda.esd.sgi.com (Glenda Ramil) writes:
>hi all,
>
>Has anyone heard or dealt with "Federal Record Service Corp"?
>I thought I read some discussions about them a while back but
>I'm not sure.  The reason I am asking is that I recieved something
>from them through the mail.  It is basically an application for
>my baby's SSN (ie.  they will process the paperwork for you for
>a $15.00 fee).  I'm wondering if they're legit.
>
>thanks for any info.
>
>-- 
>
>**************************************************************************
>
>Glenda Boja Ramil			"No one can make you feel inferior
>gboja@esd.sgi.com			 without your consent"

Yes, indeed, they are a legitimate rip-off business.  They
charge you $15 to do a "free" government service for you.  Call
the social security administration & get them to send you
an application.  Save yourself $15.

Elise.
From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: "my wife and I are pregnant", revisited
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:49:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24472
Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch)
Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals

In article <1992Dec22.170302.16560@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> MAHER@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Cynthia Maher) writes:
>In <1992Dec22.151651.13614@afterlife.ncsc.mil> adculha@afterlife.ncsc.mil writes:

>> The sole male partner
>> of the practice was the only one who appeared to believe that the father-
>> to-be might have reason to be included in the discussions.  At the hospital
>> after my son was born, the nurses trained my wife in detail on changing
>> diapers etc. and ignored me.
>In the same vein, we (briefly) had a pediatrician who, while examining the
>baby, said to my husband, "Please take your other son out of the room so I can
>talk to your wife."  That was the last visit to that doctor!  (Our current
>pediatrician seems to actually prefer my husband to bring the children, since
>they have a lot in common.)

That sounds just like the OB practice we used (we used in the
metaphysical sense, I guess) the first time.  They were 4 female
Dr's and a male Dr.  Their attitude was that the ONLY place for
males was to start the kid and be there to get screamed at
during transition.

The hospital they practiced at also trained the woman in diaper changing,
and looked real funny at me when I asked questions.  

Our first ped didn't want the father out, but he didn't much
listen either.

Second baby, new practice, new ped, new hospital.  Much nicer,
more comfortable, less paternalism from the practice full of
older male Doctors, who seem to listen to everyone and take
note.  Same for pediatric practice.

You figure!
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From: beth@col.hp.com (Beth Vail Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Nursing chair recommendation
Date: 22 Dec 1992 00:01:21 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpcsqa5.col.hp.com

My favorite chairs for baby-nursing are my gliders and matching
footstools.  We got the first one just before Ben was born, and put it
in his room, for convenience when he woke in the night.  Now that he's
3.5, there's no way he's going to give up "his" chair to the livingroom.
Besides, where would we sit when reading books at bedtime.

The second chair was purchased just before Andy was born.  He's completely
weaned now, too, but we rock and snuggle every night and every morning,
accompanied by stories and songs.  He frequently picks out a book by
himself and climbs into the chair to "read" (too cute for words!).

*Sigh* I guess I'll have to buy another chair if I really want one of my
own.  The first two were Christmas presents from my husband to me --
guess that didn't work out quite like I planned!  The chairs are
incredibly comfortable, and match nearly all the "ideal chair"
characteristics that my back therapist recommended for my sciatic nerve
trouble.

Beth Jones, mom to Ben (4/22/89) and Andy (4/3/91)
From: kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Kayvan Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Maternity lv and day care
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:54:58 GMT
Followup-To: misc.kids
Organization: Sylvan Associates

In article <ddg-241292084132@dgregorio.mitre.org> ddg@mitre.org (Donna D. Gregorio) writes:

   I am expecting my second child in May and am trying to decide what to do
   about continuing Day Care for my first 2.5 yr old daughter while on
   maternity leave (3 months).  I would like to take her out of Day Care and
   spend the time with her and the new baby.  I've been told by the Day Care
   center director and others that this may negatively affect her, since she's
   used to going to Day Care now 3 days a week.  Anyone have any
   advice/experience they'd like to share?  Thanks in advance.

The daycare people may have the best of intentions, but I think they
are misguided. As cynical as this may sound, your taking your daughter
out of their hands may decrease their income, and you should take that
into consideration when evaluating their advice.

Keeping your daughter in daycare while staying home with the new baby
can easily generate intense sibling rivalry. Of course how you handle
the situation has a lot to do with how your daughter feels about it.

If she has friends in daycare that she would miss, you might want to
take that into consideration. You need to make sure that she continues
her social connections somehow and that you spend some one on one time
with your daughter on a regular basis after your new baby is born.

One possible solution might be to plan to take her out of daycare
while retaining the option of putting her back in. If your daughter
gives you signs that she's missing the daycare, you can always bring
her back for 1 or 2 days a week, and it will have been her choice to
go back. She'll know by then that you are going to be available to her
as well as the new baby and it won't be an issue.

Good luck.

			---Kayvan

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Newsgroups: misc.kids,soc.men,alt.atheism,alt.sex.wizards,talk.abortion
From: noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan)
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:42:34 GMT

In article <1hpas1INNohi@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, starr-daniel@yale.edu (Daniel Starr) writes:
|> In article <KAYVAN.92Dec28172903@satyr.Sylvan.COM> kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Kayvan Sylvan) writes:
|> >The question for the pro-circumcision camp: Are *you* really making
|> >the decision for your kids, or is the culture you were born into
|> >making the decision?
|> Well, I'm only in favor of circumcision for my own son, not anyone else's,
|> so I don't know to what extent that makes me "pro-circumcision"... but I will
|> do it because God has commanded me to, as recorded in the Torah, etc., etc.

So, your pro-choice!  Don't like circumcision?  Don't have one!


|> -- 
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------
|> |Daniel Starr                | "Wait! Wait! Maybe THIS will work!" |
|> |dstarr@minerva.cis.yale.edu |                                     |
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------

Mike Noonan
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: amy@hubcap.clemson.edu (Amy Slankard)
Subject: Re: Here a study, there a study....
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:40:13 GMT

swk004@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:

>Hmmm, let's see now.  We've got people citing all kinds of different
>studies about circumcision.  We've got people citing studies about
>cervical/penile cancer.  We've got people citing studies about
>infant walkers.  Studies on ear infections.  Studies on ear tubes.
>Studies on the rate of c-sections. Here a study, there a study, 
>everywhere a study, study.  (Everybody join in now, "ol' misc.kids
>had a study, eieio.....)

>But more interesting, we've got people saying "no, that study is
>wrong, the researchers failed to take into account that..."

>Ya'll are making my point for me.  A study is only authoritative 
>until the next one comes out.  Seems to me we ought to be using a 
>whole lot more common sense about these things.

>Connie

One of the few jokes I have been able to remember through the years...

Recently there was a five year government study that determined it is very
profitable to conduct a five year government study.

Maybe not a joke...
Amy Slankard
Xref: sparky misc.kids:30921 talk.politics.medicine:409
From: sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine
Subject: Re: AMA Calls for Ban on Infant Walkers
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:34:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U

In article <ANNE.92Dec19155020@dolores.Stanford.EDU> anne@dolores.Stanford.EDU (Anne Paulson) writes:
>In article <1gqi2dINN8q2@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>
>   I would have loved to have a walker if 
>   only our floors weren't all carpeted. We don't have any stairs in the house, 
>   so the danger aspect simply didn't apply.
>
>The danger of falling down the stairs didn't apply.  The danger of
>scooting over and sticking your fingers in the electric socket, for
>example, or pulling a hot frying pan off the stove, would still apply.
>My sister put her daughter in a walker, figuring that she wouldn't be
>able to reach out beyond the tray and grab things.  Wrong!  Emily
>zipped right over the the electric socket, which she could, in fact,
>reach quite easily.

Walkers don't require any more baby proofing than toddlers.  Walkers can
go down stairs, well, so can crawling/toddling babies.  Walkers allow
babies to reach things, well, they can't reach anything in a walker that
they won't be able to reach as soon as they can pull themselves up.  
Somewhat less, actually.  To my mind,
walkers require exactly the same level of babyproofing that the average
toddler generates, you just have to do it a bit earlier.  Walkers can move
faster than crawling, I guess, but I found the walker best before the baby
could crawl (that awful, frustrating stage for babies) and Brian could
barely move the thing at that age.  By the time he could move it well, I
retired it because he was crawling so well.  He was also able to pull
himself up pretty well too, so stairs had to be blocked and everything
within 3' has to be safe, walker or no.

My husbands analysis is that if babies hurt themselves using some toy
(i.e. walker) then we can all blame/sue the toy.  If they just fall down
the stairs on their own (or whatever) we have no one to blame but the
parents (and we couldn't do that, could we?).

-- 
Susan Gauch
sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Christmas Tree
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:15:11 GMT
Reply-To: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Distribution: na
Organization: Intel Corp.

In article <1992Dec21.174540.153@ttinews.tti.com>, reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland) writes:
|> 
|> Here are two things you can do that will go a long way: First, secure
|> the tree to the wall or other stable object (ceiling hook, window
|> frame, large piece of furniture, etc.) with strong twine or wire, so
|> that it can't fall over, no matter who tries to climb it.  Second,
|> don't decorate the tree within the child's reach.  It looks a little
|> funny, but it beats a trip to the emergency room.
|> 
Something we find easier is we have a piece of plywood about 4'x4' that we
screw the tree stand to.  The tree skirt covers the plywood and once presents
are under the tree, you cannot see it.  Altho Andrea is 7 and no longer
presents a problem with the tree, this is a good solution to keep the 
cat and dogs from tipping the tree over.

***************************************************
	Linda Harbin       Hillsboro, Oregon 
	503-696-2261       linda@littlei.intel.com
***************************************************
Xref: sparky misc.kids:31055 alt.atheism:24225
From: noraa@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (aaron.l.hoffmeyer)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:31:37 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Dec22.203320.53231@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:
>In article <1h7lh5INNdih@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, potts@oit.itd.umich.edu (Paul Potts) writes:
>
>|> 
>|> Among my earliest memories are memories of going to a doctor multiple
>|> times to be treated for a swollen, purple, infected circumcision scar.
>
>You remember what happened when you were 8 days old???

Well, since my brother was still going to the hospital at age six to be
treated for problems which resulted from complications of a
circumcision, your assuming that only "eight-day-olds: could ever,
possibly have memories of such complications are quite narrow at best.
>
>Jewish circumcisions (which is where this thread originally started)

"originally started" - quite redundant today, aren't we?
>are not performed by "the medical establishment".
>

Orthodox or reformed?  A "chosen one" or a heretic?  Are there "degrees"
of Jewishness?  I know a Jewish attorney.  His son was circumcised by a
doctor.  Doesn't fit with your explanation.  Maybe you have stats.

>The mohel who circumcized me did nothing but circumcisions;
>the mohel who circumcized my son did nothing but circumcisions.

Was he paid, or did he just take "tips?"

Aaron L. Hoffmeyer
TR@CBNEA.ATT.COM 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold)
Subject: Re: Misc.kids Baby Names in Popular order
Reply-To: tommy@boole.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ, USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:14:13 GMT

Is there really someone named "Don't"?
-- 
Tom Reingold
AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
tommy@boole.att.com or att!boole!tommy
Newsgroups: misc.kids