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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:53:39 CST
From:         "Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a." <STEVEC@MCES.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DEMOCRACY FOR ECONOMICS

in response to Robert E. McElwaine:

>       so there is one vote per share HOLDER, rather than per share
>       of stock.

An what do we do about that time honored tradition of American
capitalism?

>            Second, require the ELECTION, rather than appointment,
>       of ALL financial, economic, and banking officials.

Gee, I had hoped to keep politics out of something as important as
fiscal management.

>            Third, establish a GUARANTEED MONTHLY INCOME,

You might investigate Russian socialism ... they might have some
pointers for you.

>            A fourth supplementary provision would be a 4-DAY (32-
>       HOUR) WORK-WEEK.

Absolutely.  That ought to reduce the cost by the Japanese to
completely wipe us off the economic front.
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Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a.            |SteveC@MCES.MsState.Edu
Manager, Systems & Networks               |Post Office Box 5446
Agricultural Administrative Computing     |Mississippi State, MS 39762
Mississippi State University              |601-325-3227
From: MDZIMBAL@EMUBUS.BITNET
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Subject: Re: Ph.D program in Finance
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:32:00 GMT
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Jian,
        The two strongest schools in Finance for a PhD are easily The Wharton
School at the University of Pennsylvania and The Leonard Stern School of
Business at New York University.  However both schools are very large and can
have all the problems associated with large schools.  I don't know much about
small school PhD programs, perhaps someone else on the list does.

David Zimbalist
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From:         "Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a." <STEVEC@MCES.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Employer outlook on Student Curriculum

> From the viewpoint of an employer, what is the difference between a
> CIS or a CS major?

CIS (a.k.a. MIS) is taught through the Business School, whereas CS is
taught through Arts and Sciences.  I graduated with the more
technical CS (masters), worked for a while, then went back for the
m.b.a.  As an employer, I would take either ... but since I'm a small
shop I don't have the resources to train a business student in
programming - I expect that the student will be programming literate.

On the other hand, I expect the CS student to understand something
about accounting, finance, and marketing (with respect to selling the
services of our department to the rest of the organization - that
eliminates students who program for the sake of programming ... we
have to get work out the door).  I haven't the resources to teach
business basics.
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Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a.            |SteveC@MCES.MsState.Edu
Manager, Systems & Networks               |Post Office Box 5446
Agricultural Administrative Computing     |Mississippi State, MS 39762
Mississippi State University              |601-325-3227
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:22:13 CST
From:         "Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a." <STEVEC@MCES.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      m.p.a. or m.b.a.

> from richard zink:
>
>  my main goal is to teach at the college level in accounting. my
> question is the following : would it make more sense for me to get a
> m.s. in accounting or get a m.b.a. in accounting or a m.b.a in another
> related field like finance, in order to expand my knowledge.

It has been my experience that accounting majors are not interested
in expanding their knowledge as it is their opinion that the
accounting degree encompases all of an m.b.a. and more.  Therefore,
accounting has a m.p.a. degree program (master of professional
accounting).  If you want to teach accounting, and if you want to do
it with a minimum of coursework, you should not care about expanding
your knowledge and simply follow the narrow accounting path (b.p.a.,
m.p.a., and finally d.p.a or d.b.a with accounting major)

On the other hand, if you do not mind taking a few extra courses and
earn a well rounded education with an m.b.a., then by all means go
for the finance major.  You will have to take extra courses should
you go on to the doctorate, but if you wash out of the doctorate
program, at least you will have a marketable degree in the general
workplace (as opposed to having the m.p.a. which is useless without a
c.p.a).

In re-reading my post, I find it very confusing.  Hack though it, if
it makes no sense, email
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Stephen P. Cohen, m.s., m.b.a.            |SteveC@MCES.MsState.Edu
Manager, Systems & Networks               |Post Office Box 5446
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Mississippi State University              |601-325-3227
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:11:34 CDT
From:         Gary Jarrell <C604441@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Info on NY schools
              9 Oct 1992 12:58:38 EDT from <edatc@SN539.UTICA.GE.COM>

Alan, Thank your for your candid reply.  That is more than I could have
gottent from NY toruist B.  They would probably give me only the good stuff
and what I want is all the data, good and bad.  Hope your job works out
for you.  REmember, at least they are paying for your Masters|||  Good luck.

Gary Jarrell
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:46:10 -0500
From:         PECO1805@VEGA.SELU.EDU
Subject:      Ph.D program in Finance

Hi
I am planning to go to Ph.D program in Finance and wand to know which school
offer the best program. Can anyone help?
Thanks
Jian
From: akondama@MIZAR.USC.EDU ((Arjun Kondamani))
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I am interested in a PhD in Marketing - quantitatively oriented like
Marketing Models, Game theories/Strategy, Sales Forecasting etc. Can anyone
suggest a list of good schools that emphasize these strengths?

I will have an MBA in Marketing by the time I am ready to enter the program.

Thanks,

Arjun.
From: STEWARTJ@DUVM.BITNET (JEFF STEWART)
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Subject: Re: MBA programs at Selected Universities.
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:39:30 GMT
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              15 Oct 1992 09:05:25 -0500 from <dgoldstn@UMAXC.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>

At Drexel University, one can enter a dual degree program in MIS and
Business; Drexel confers the MIS and MBA degree.
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From:         dirish@MATH.UTAH.EDU
Subject:      DEMOCRACY FOR ECONOMICS
              8 Oct 1992 15:38:39 CDT <A0C06C52DC015581@CC.UTAH.EDU>

Just to let you all know, MCELWRE@UWEC is a net-pest.  He sends these
long diatribes to any mailing list that he can find.  Most of them he
never subscribes to.  There are two options, the mailing list
administrator can tell him to stop.  I have been told that he will
stop if asked.  Or, we can just ignore him.  I sugest that we do both.
So who ever is administrator should send him a message asking him to
"take a hike" and the rest of us should just go on to the next topic.

Speaking of which, what do you feel about the math content in your
program?  I think that it is either too much or too little.  By this I
think we should either be required to learn enough math to really be
able to use it, or they should strongly de-emphasize the math content.
At this point, I think that the math requirement is mostly used to
keep people out of the program.  What do you think?

Dudley Irish
________________________________________________________________________
dirish@math.utah.edu

The views expressed in this message do not reflect the views of the
Department of Mathematics, the University of Utah, or the State of Utah.
From: SHM@GWUVM.BITNET (Stu Gudowitz)
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              15 Oct 1992 13:06:49 +1000 from <P.Warning@UTS.EDU.AU>

There is an electronic bulletin board for travel and tourism research called Tr
inet that i beleive you can subscribe to by e-mailing to listserv@uhccvm.bitne
t.
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From:         Kelly Janousek <KELLY@FELIX.LIB.CSULB.EDU>
Subject:      RE: NAFTA via FTP site instead

Here is a possible place to read the full text of the NAFTA, instructions
are included on FTP, as well as to the expected size of the information.
Kelly Janousek

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Date:         Tue, 06 Oct 92 14:28:07 PDT
From: Terry Brainerd Chadwick <CWTC%PSUORVM@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: NAFTA on NTDB

Please note that the complete text of the NAFTA is *not* available on
the September 1992 NTDB.  Item ID TR NAFTA2 PGM-DESC "provides a synopsis of
the proposed North American Free Trade Agreement."

*******
The complete text of NAFTA, with tariff schedules, can be found via internet
at Washington and Lee University, courtesy of John Doyle.

Ftp liberty.uc.wlu.edu in the pub/lawlib/nafta.draft directory    or
Telnet to the same address and login as lawlib.

There are more than fifty files (3 mg+).  John indicates that the files
may also be e-mailed with a mail-splitting facility.

Terry Brainerd Chadwick
InfoQuest! Information Services/International Trade Institute at PSU
cwtc@psuorvm.bitnet / cwtc@psuorvm.cc.pdx.edu
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janousek@beach.csulb.edu        FAX (310) 985-1703
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From:         Gwen Gray <ELSGWEN@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      data archives

I will be assuming responsibility for data archives or electronic records in
November.  My main responsibility will be to serve as the ICPSR (Inter-Univer-
sity Consortium for Political and Social Research) liaison for the campus and
to provide access to ICPSR data tapes.  I am wondering if other business libra-
rians are serving in this capacity and what their thoughts/advice are on this
role.  This will be a new experience for me.

Please respond to me directly.  I am very interested to hear what people have
to say.

Gwen Gray
Business Librarian
University of Missouri-Columbia
elsgwen@mizzou1.missouri.edu
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From:         DBMEW%UTXDP.BITNET@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU
Subject:      Standard & Poor's on CD-ROM

We are working on an extremely tight budget here (almost a moot point, I know!)
at the University of Texas Development Office. Given that, I need to hear from
anyone who has utilized _Standard & Poor's_ on cd-rom in a LAN environment.
While it seems it will answer our need to accommodate many staff who use this
source heavily, I wonder if it would be more sensible to just continue to
purchase one hardcopy and make do. Would you please specify how many computers
access S&Ps on the LAN, and any info on how many staff use it and their
satisfaction/disatisfaction with it.
If you like, please send a message to my e-mail address and I will summarize
for the list.
Mary Wolcott
Librarian
University Development Office
dbmew%utxdp.bitnet@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu (Internet address)
dbmew@utxdp (Bitnet address)
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From:         "Todd M. Mundle" <MUNDLET@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Address sought

This is being sent to both LIBREF-L and BUSLIB-L.  Please excuse any
duplication.

Please respond to me directly and not to the list.  Thank you.

Once again I appeal to my electronic colleagues.  I have a faculty member
looking for either a contact person or an address for:

Executive Program Consortium

or as it apparently used to be called:

Consortium for University Executive Development Programs

I have checked in _World of Learning_ , Directory of Research Centers, and
_Encyclopedia of Associations. International...._.

These turned up a useful reference but not the one that I am looking for.

Thank you in advance.

Todd M. Mundle
Univ. of Regina Library
Regina, SK  Canada
mundlet@max.cc.uregina.ca
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Subject: nafta - full text
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:57:55 GMT
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To all who were wondering where to get full text for the North
America Free Text Trade Agreement,   (you may have already
discovered this - but if not) full text is available through Info
Globe Online.  The advertisement in the October issue of 'Information
Today' states that it includes "fact sheets, province sheets, issues
sheets, sectoral sheets, and text overview of the agreement". (p.36)
For more information contact Globe Information Services at 416-585-
5250 (ie Toronto, Canada.  North of the 49th free trade as a topic of
concern is second only to the Referendum.)

Gwen Harris
FLIS, U of T. (student)
From: RADAVFS@UBE.BITNET (HANS WURST)
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Subject: Commerce Business Daily on the net?
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:35:56 GMT
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Cross posted to LIBREF-L and BUSLIB-L, apologies for the
duplication!

The subject line actually says it all.

Does anyone out there in Internetland know of a site
that has Commerce Business Daily available for the
use of others (e.g. a "gopher" at a major academic institution)?

Any input would be appreciated!
Replies to me are preferred, and I will summarize
for the lists.
Thanks loads!
Volker

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From:         Jill Ann Hurst 607-974-8358 <HURST_JA@CORNING.COM>
Subject:      EEC Directives

    Please respond to Internet address HURST_JA@CORNING.COM

    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    I would like to order several EEC directives.  I have learned that
    I can order them through the European Information and
    documentation Service in Madrid, but am wondering if there is any
    place in the U.S. that I can order from (or someplace where I can
    ask some questions about my order in "fluent" English).  Does anyone
    know of another supplier?

    Also, does anyone have a copy of the directives that would be
    willing to answer a couple of questions about them?  (I promise
    the questions are EASY.)

    Thanks in advance!

    					Jill Ann Hurst
    					Supervisor
    					Business Support Library
    					Corning Incorporated
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Subject:      japanese management journals

I am looking for journals that have a good treatment (or principal focus) on
Japanese management styles.  Places looked so far include ABI/Inform, Ulrichs &
EBSCO's Serials Cd-Rom. and I have found several only promising journals by
title.  Does anyone have experience/knowledge of any journals that deal with
this topic so that I can pass them on for recommended purchase?

Thankyou
Julie Woodland
email: LWoodland@cc.curtin.edu.au
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From:         Kelly Janousek <KELLY@FELIX.LIB.CSULB.EDU>
Subject:      NAFTA and Sept '92 NTDB CD-ROM

This message was received on the GOVDOC-L concerning what is exacting
on the NTDB CD-ROM from the Government with the NAFTA.  Kelly Janousek

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Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 11:44:24 PST
From: mcculeym%sandnet.UCSD.EDU%Sdsc.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU (Michael McCulley)
Subject: NAFTA and Sept '92 NTDB CD-ROM
Re: the below message from Peggy Walker, Florida

  Unless I'm mistaken, which is certainly possible here, that NTDB text
  portion is only a SYNOPSIS, not the full text.  It's the same text we
  got from the Carla Hills' U.S. Trade Representative's office, and it's
  dated August 12, 1992.  The full text of the NAFTA runs around 2,000
  pages, and was released until September 8 or 9, 1992.  We purchased
  the WordPerfect disks from BNA Plus, and it comes on 5 disks.

  I have not seen the September NTDB disk yet, so I can't be sure of
  this.  Perhaps Peggy can check it out again for us Doc-ers/ies?
  Thanks.

  P. Michael McCulley           Bitnet: mmcculley@ucsd.bitnet
  Central University Library    Internet: mmcculley@ucsd.edu
  Univ. of Calif., San Diego    Phone: (619) 534-2024
  Govt. Docs./Maps - 0175P      FAX: (619) 534-2381
  La Jolla, CA 92093-0175

  ------------------------Below is original message-------------------
  Subject:      Sept. NTDB/North Am. Free Trade:

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  Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 8:11 est
  From: "Margaret S. Walker" <WALKER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
  Subject: Sept NTDB

        The September 1992 NTDB has "the complete text of the proposed
        North American Free Trade Agreement as of August 12, 1992" on
        it.

   Peggy Walker
   Margaret S. Walker              INTERNET: Walker@Acc.Fau.Edu
   Documents Dept.-Library         BITNET: Walker@FAUVAX
   P.O. Box 3092                   Ph.  (407)367-3788
   Florida Atlantic University
   Boca Raton, Fl.   33431

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Dear group member,

Can anyone supply a list of  groups relevant to business studies. I
have scanned some of the published lists but feel that there should be
more groups around. In particular I would like to know of groups dealing
with leisure and tourism, but ANY business groups would be useful.

Thanks in anticipation,

-------------
regards Peter

************************************

Peter Warning
Faculty Liaison Librarian (Business)
University of Technology, Sydney

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From:         gmiller@VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU
Subject:      RE: japanese management journals

Contact WILEY re: Japanese Management Journals.  They are fairly current
on international management issues.  If they can't help, they could
direct you to another more appropriate source.
From: jenn@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (jennettee rader)
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Subject: Re: current data on Mexico
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Subject:      Current Data On Mexico - Reply

In addition to the rather complete listing of sources you already
mentioned, I can suggest the folowing:

1.  Title: Panorama Economico
       It is published bimonthly, published by Bancomer and
distributed by:  Graciela Gonzales, Av. Universidad 1200, Col.
Xoco 03339, Mexico, D.F. Telephone: 621-52-45.  You may want to
contact the foreign office: Agencia Nueva York, 115 East 54th
Street, New York, NY 1022, Telephoe: 212 759-7600.  Distributed
gratis.

2.  Title:  El Mercado De Valores.  It is distributed gratis.
Contact: Subdireccion de Publicaciones, Apartado Postal 20-800,
C.P. 01020 Mexico, D.F. Telephone: 510-44-39.

Note:  Both titles are in Spanish.

Carol Schroeder
Business Librarian
Adelphi University
Garden City, NY 11530
Telephone: 516 921-2045
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From:         Gordon Aamot <aamot@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dun & Bradstreet

Dun & Bradstreet has agreed to send a representative to speak at our
Publishers Forum in Denver this January.  We also hope to get IAC to come.
The date is January 25, 1993, 9:30-11:00am.  Check the conference schedule for
the location.  See you there.

Gordon Aamot, Chair
BRASS Business Reference Sources Committee


On Fri, 2 Oct 1992, Leslie M. Haas wrote:

> This king of "leasing" would be a great topic for discussion at the next
> publishers forum during Midwinter.  Does anyone know if D&B plans on attending
> this session?  I would be extremely interested in the rationale for this
> kind of practice, besides keeping the library's hostage!
>
>
> On a totally unrelated note, has anyone seen Hoovers Handbook on CD-ROM yet?
> I am very interested in purchasing it for our library and I have been waiting
 f
> or the publisher to respond to my queries.  If you do have it at your library
> how does it work? and do the patrons like it?
>
> Leslie Haas
> Business Reference Librarian
> Kent State University
> lhaas@kentvm
> (216)672-3045
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