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From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Ron Dennis Interview
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:03:20 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

The following Ron Dennis quote is copied without permission from Autosport.


  "I would prefer relationships with drivers which were a little
   more based on the concept of marriage - 'for better and for
   worse'. Then you solve the problems as and when they come along.
   I know that isn't the way Ayrton's mind works. I understand and 
   accept that. It is in the nature of his personality and I don't
   feel any animosity."


			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
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From: frans@sis.uucp (Frans Lichtenberg)
Subject: Re: Unser Jr/IMSA/PDX
Organization: Sheridan College, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:00:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.111434.1259@ugle.unit.no> noralf@Lise.Unit.NO (Arve Noralf Lund) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.034945.26829@uwm.edu>, naze@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Daniel J Naze) writes:
> > In article <1992Jul21.145106.26765@ncube.com> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
> > >Al Unser Jr. will drive one of Tom Milner's '91 Chevrolet
> > >Intrepid GTPs at Portland this coming weekend.
> > >
> > >The car will be prepped by Scandia Motorsports in Redmond,
> > >Washington and is sponsored by Scandia, Norwegian Cruise
> > >Lines and General Rent a Car.
> > >-cannonball-
> > >
> > 
> >   I was under the impression that "Scandia" was just the team name, is
> > Scandia some kind of company?  If so, what is the product?
> > 
> > Dan Naze
> > 
>    
>  
>There is a swedish insurance company called "Scandia", 
>but I don't know if there are any connections.
>
>-- Arve Lund

"Scandia" is a swedish truck manufactor.

             Frans......

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: wife shots (was Re: Toronto Indy Results, Points Standings--and CART-IMS agreement!)
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:23:42 GMT

In article <21JUL199216005204@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.163353.6246@rdg.dec.com>, winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com 
>(Paul S. Winalski) writes...
>> 
>>In article <71166379711098@c00031-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu>,
>>jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith) writes:
>>|>
>>|>Is it my imagination, or are there fewer wife shots lately?  I counted
>>|>only one in the Toronto race--Mrs. Rahal was shown in closeup one time
>>|>(though she also appeared among the pit crew in a few shots).
>> 
>>I noticed that, too.  Maybe Ohlmeyer is finally getting the message that we'd
>>rather see more of the cars and less of the wives.
>
>The other possibility is that the race was delay broadcast, making it 
>easier to fit into a time slot (through editing).  Wife shots tend to be 
>filler, hence the delayed broadcast may have eliminated them.
>
>If the Marlboro 500 is shown live, expect the wife shots to be readily 
>apparent again.  (Oops, I guess Michigan 500 is more politically correct.)
>

ABC was probably mostly using the CBC feeds in Toronto...who were
broadcasting the race in Canada.

Gerald
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From: ddd@cc.uow.edu.au (David Dodds)
Subject: Re: Boo Boo Senna (German GP minor spoiler)
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:09:49 GMT

>   It seems that if Senna does not look to have a competitive car next
>year he is going to seriously consider retiring for a season.  I ask all
>of Senna's fans: Do you still think he is the best driver in the world
>or just maybe it is a 3 time WC because of great cars?

After watching the German GP do you still think Senna is the 3 time
world champion just because of his car ? (Don't think so)

See how the Williams drivers behaved under pressure ?

IMHO ..As to Senna taking cebatical next year, I think he may be on it now.
He is not under pressure to win, the C'ship is beyond his grasp. He is
having a bit of fun. Wait till next year.

Just a thought

David
From: bradley@reed.edu (Ben Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Portland, OR  Mailing List
Keywords: Spam, No PMS
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:27:58 GMT
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Organization: Reed College, Portland OR

Welcome Race Fans:

This post is to announce the recent formation of a mailing-list
catering to Portland, Oregon auto sport enthusiasts.  Whether your
participation is active or vicarious, whether you drive, work, or
spectate we'd like to hear from you.  While primarily catering to
local SCCA and ICSCC racing there will hopefully be autocross and
rally information available, as long as the volume of traffic does
not become prohibitive.

For locals this is an opportunity to swap tales and obtain info, 
but not to slander folks (at least too badly).  For others it would
be a place to find out what's happening in the City o' Roses or 
line up help and information if you are coming to visit.

It is assumed that readers of this list also get wheel to wheel;
so carbon copying to both groups should not be necessary.  This is
mainly intended for Portland-specific topics.  PMS (Prost/Mansell/Senna)
arguments will not be tolerated, unless they're banging fenders
in the "Festival" during a Conference small production race.

Submit to - pdxracer@reed.edu

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-- 
Ben Bradley                                 Rally Drivers Do It Sideways!!
Reed College
Portland, OR                                RIP CITY!!!
bradley@reed.edu                            Wait Until Next Year
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From: jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith)
Subject: Re: Piquet
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:21:49 GMT

In article <1325@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> braithw@cs.uwindsor.ca 
(BRAITHWAITE GEORGE       ) writes:
>	Has anyone heard any news about Nelson Piquet returning to F1.  
>I heard rumours about this earlier on this year but nothing since.

After announcing his permanent retirement from all forms of auto racing
(including posing in a cockpit for photos) following his horrendous crash
at Indy, Piquet has since been heard to express an interest in returning
to Indy next year.  He reportedly thinks that his left foot will not
heal sufficiently to ever allow a return to F1 (and presumably any form
of road racing), but that at Indy he only needs a healthy right foot.
Has Piquet expressed an interest in Winston Cup (as we've heard from
Senna)?

--
Jay C. Smith
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From: b617zbb@utarlg.uta.edu (George M. Smiley)
Subject: Re: Mansell, Michael, . . . (German GP spoilers)
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In article <Bs2BGu.14q@apollo.hp.com>, johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis) writes...

>Finally, an observation about F1 vs. IndyCars.  If the IndyCar series is,
>as we have often been told, a far more level playing field, then how come
>Michael Andretti already has something like 25 race wins to his credit?
> 
>John Francis                                johnf@apollo.hp.com
>The world can be divided into two classes :
> those who divide people into two classes, and those who don't.

Already ??? Andretti has been in Indy Cars for about as long as Senna has
been in F1. I think what is meant by level is that the point system tends
to place more of a premium on consistentcy rather than victories. That
would be why Andretti has only Indy Car Chapionship to his credit. 
And don't forget having an Andretti name assures one of high quality
equipment right from the start, something that makes winning a little
bit easier.

George.

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From: marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti)
Subject: Re: F1 Trivia : Best newcomer in F1 ??
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:56:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.135938.28465@infoserver.th-darmstadt.de>, schwerdt@oc1.oc.chemie.th-darmstadt.de (Ralf Schwerdtfeger) writes:
|> While watching the German F1 Grand Prix I was wondering which newcomer in
|> F1 scored the most points during his first complete (!!!!) season in F1.
|> Micheal Schumacher scored up to now 33 points. Any driver who did a better
|> first season?

Clay Regazzoni scored 33 points in his first ever season (1970)
and placed 3rd in the championship, even though he only took part
in 8 out of 13 races ...

GP South Africa    ---
GP Spain           ---
GP Monaco          ---
GP Belgium         ---
GP Netherlands     4th     3
GP France          ---
GP England         4th     3
GP Germany         DNF     0
GP Austria         2nd     6
GP Italy           1st     9
GP Canada          2nd     6
GP USA             DNF     0
GP Mexico          2nd     6
                          --
                          33

He was in the lead of his 3rd ever GP (GP Germany, in Hockenheim),
finished 2nd in his 4th GP, only 2 or 3 seconds adrift of his team
leader (Jacky Ickx), and won the 5th GP he took part in.

PS:  Yes, I know: Schumacher is going to have a better season,
at least in terms of points ...

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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Facts and Rumors before Hockenheim
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:06:54 GMT

In article <h1fm_d-.esprit@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:
>I think it has already been mentioned here, but I will repeat it.
>Lotus cannot afford Al Jr. (they have unofficially unadmitted this) and
>if one of the current drivers goes it will be Johnny Herbert.  Mika has
>more sponsorship money (unless the EC bans all cigarette advertising like
>they were talking about).
>
>alan

Al Jr. would bring a shitload of sponsors, no matter where he goes.

-c'ball-
From: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 Trivia : Best newcomer in F1 ??
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:49:25 GMT
Reply-To: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


While Schumacher has scored 33 points in his first 'year', he only scored 4
points during his first 'season'.  Minor point.

Here are the drivers who have scored 30+ points in their first season:

Farina - 30 points (1950)
Stewart - 33 points (1965)
Reggazoni - 33 points (1970)
Peterson - 33 points (1971)

Either way, Schumacher is a rising star....

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From: jmd@messa.ocunix.on.ca (Matt Dumais)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Toronto Indy
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:47:24 EDT
Organization: Messa Computing Inc.

Do you think that Rahal and/or his crew didn't know that Michel was 
is the pit...

My opinion is that Bobby tried to block and either did a poor job of
it (ie. left some room, thank god, 'cause Michel was committed) or
more likely tried to block and did a good job of leaving just enough 
room in case Michel didn't brake.

The CBC coverage mentioned that 2 tires must stay inside the yellow,
not four.  I recall that when the yellow line was introduced at the pit
exit it was explianed (to the point of nausea, by Brian Williams) that 
only 2 tires must stay inside.  Therefore the points being made about
Michel violating the line are not valid.

Bobby Rahal is likely doing what he should be doing, placing as high
as he can without taking risks.

Michel's pass under braking on the outside to take the lead was really
impressive.  If you ask me the CBC should have been comparing
Michel to Gilles, not Paul Tracey to Gilles.  It would be great for racing
to see Michel in F1.  I for one will have great expectations for him.

I don't think Paul Tracey would have passed Michel even if his car 
would have held up.

Mario is ..... un-believable.  

CBC's coverage mentioned the Honda pull out of F1 and the likely entrance
of Honda into Indy, most likely with Rahal, who ownes a Honda dealership.




--
jmd@messa.ocunix.on.ca (Matt Dumais)
From: jka@ipsa.reuter.com (Jan Arendtsz)
Subject: Re: Misc. Weekend Ramblings
Organization: Reuters Information Services (Canada) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:11:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.232640.8750@rdg.dec.com> winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes:
>
>supposed to?  We're just lucky that nobody on the track was taking a line
>low near the pit wall at the time Michael illegally crossed the yellow line.
>At the very least, I think a warning is in order that if it happens again,
>there will be a stop-and-go assessed.
>

From the CBC broadcast, I got the impression that it's legal to have two
wheels outside the yellow line, and illegal to have all four wheels outside
the yellow line. Therefore, the conclusion was that Andretti had NOT illegally
crossed the yellow line.

	...\Jan
From: danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 Trivia : Best newcomer in F1 ??
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:32:55 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View

Dave Burden writes:
 
>While Schumacher has scored 33 points in his first 'year', he only scored 4
>points during his first 'season'.  Minor point.
>
>Here are the drivers who have scored 30+ points in their first season:
>
>Farina - 30 points (1950)
>Stewart - 33 points (1965)
>Reggazoni - 33 points (1970)
>Peterson - 33 points (1971)

You could probably add Jody Scheckter to this list too.  In '72 he drove one
race for McLaren, in '73 drove in 5 selected races for McLaren, and in '74
had his first full season, driving for Tyrrell.  He scored 45 points in '74
to finish 3rd in the World Championship.

Dan Jones
From: stecz@pencom.com (John Steczkowski)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Wreck on ESPN Saturday Night
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:26:42 GMT
Reply-To: stecz@pencom.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <1992Jul21.090627.8119@hemlock.cray.com> deanb@pecan10.cray.com  
(Dean Barker) writes:
> 
> In article <BrqoB9.GJz@acsu.buffalo.edu>, trljim@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JIM  
SONNENMEIER) writes:
> > In article <3399@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry  
Bloomberg) writes...
> > > 
> > >   The broadcast was of miget races at Indianapolis Raceway Park.  The
> > >accident was so horrifying that ESPN refused to show the replay.
> > 
> > I saw a replay on ESPN Sunday night, you`re right horrorfying!!! ... never 
> > seen anything like it the guy floppin around like a rag doll .. anyway
> > all they said that he was in serious but stable condition ... that was 
> > three days ago .. I hope it is still true.
> 
> I usually watch SNT, but I missed it this week. Without getting too graphic, 
> what was different about this crash from every other midget roll-over. Did
> this guy fall out of the car or something? Did the seat belts or roll cage
> fail? Try to keep this non-graphic, just give me an idea what happened.


I watched a tape of this again last night.....

At the green flag for one of the features, an inside car swerved to the  
outside, and sent Mac (I think that's his name) car into the catch fence.  It  
then proceeded to snap roll down the front straight at least 15 or 20 times.   
He either didn't have his arm restraints on, or they broke, because both arms  
were outside of the roll cage.  It appeared that the main harnesses held him in  
the car properly.  To give you an idea of how fast the car was barrel rolling,  
the hole incident lasted less than 5 seconds, but I couldn't count how many  
times the car barrel rolled.  It was incredible.  As the car slowed down, you  
could see the driver just completely relaxed (probably unconcious) and the car  
rolling onto his arms as it continued to barrel roll.  Part of the problem  
seemed to be that the suspension broke off fairly early in the incident, and  
that let the car roll much easier.  I'm not saying that it's a design flaw  
(suspension breaking off), it's just one of those things that happens.  I'd  
have to say that it is one of the more gruesome racing incidents I've seen.  I  
think it was worse than the the Tommy Kendall and the Nascar incident last  
year.

I support ESPN for not showing the wreck again, there wasn't anything to be  
learned by it.

--
  John Steczkowski                            stecz@pencom.com
              "Just something to blur the trees!"
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From: b617zbb@utarlg.uta.edu (George M. Smiley)
Subject: Re: Its time for another match race
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In article <182810@pyramid.pyramid.com>, danjones@pyrps5.eng.pyramid.com (Dan Jones) writes...
>Well, now that the IMSA GTP boys are qualifying faster than the CART
>boys did last year, its time for a showdown.  In 1974 the F1 cars and
>CanAm cars were pretty close in speed, so UOP had their match race at
>Laguna Seca between, if the memory is correct, James Hunt and JP Jarier
>in F1 Shadows vs George Follmer and Jacky Oliver in CanAm Shadows.  The
>CanAm cars blew off the F1 cars.
> 
>So how about a match race between Al Jr and Michael vs Davy and Fangio?
> 
>Dan Jones

I can picture it now......,

Andretti trying an intimidation pass on Davy Jones only to find that
it is hard to intimidate a full bodied prototype with an open wheeled
Indy Car. Result: Andretti ends up like Patrese.....in the grass.

George.

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From: mchivers@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Michael Chivers)
Subject: Re: Mansell, Michael, . . . (German GP spoilers)
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:26:54 GMT

johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis) writes:


>Observations on the German GP:

>Patrese tried to show that he could manhandle a Williams/Renault around a
>racetrack as fast as Nigel Mansell.  He certainly managed to set fastest
>lap a few times, but failed to demonstrate that he was the equal of Mansell
>when pushing his car right to the limit (and maybe a little bit further).

Didn't Patrese AND Mansell go off while trying to pass Senna?  Did
Patrese have the lap record at the end of the race ?

>Senna demonstrated his superb driving abilities by holding off a charging
>Patrese for several laps despite being on old tyres, and having very little
>downforce dialled into the rear wing.  however Michael Schumacher was, in
>my opinion, even more amazing!  Not only did he also complete the race on
>one set of tyres, he was running competitive laps despite only having a V8
>powerplant.  A head-on shot showed how he was able to do this; he had even
>less rear wing than Senna.  As the race practice sessions showed, it was
>not easy to run even one lap with minimal downforce, let alone forty!

It seemed to me the the Mclarens were running the most wing of all
compared to the Williams and Bennetons, with the Bennetons having the
least.  Maybe the Honda engine is putting out a decent amount of
power (more than the Renault)?  It was a realt struggle for the
Williams to get past Senna.

Anthony Doig                  | E-Mail : mah@Dialix.oz.au
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From: deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker)
Subject: NASCAR WC Update
Originator: deanb@pecan10
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:31:04 CDT



		1992 NASCAR Winston Cup Schedule

DATE	SITE			WINNER/TV		PTS. LEADER
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2/8	Busch Clash (Daytona)	G. Bodine		-----------
2/16 	Daytona, FL		D. Allison		D. Allison (+10)
3/1	Rockingham, NC		B. Elliott		D. Allison (+56)
3/8	Richmond, VA		B. Elliott		D. Allison (+63)
3/15	Atlanta, GA		B. Elliott		D. Allison (+58)
3/29	Darlington, SC		B. Elliott		D. Allison (+48)
4/5	Bristol, TN		A. Kulwicki		D. Allison (+29)
4/12	North Wilkesboro, NC	D. Allison		D. Allison (+86)
4/26	Martinsville, VA	M. Martin		D. Allison (+16)
5/3	Talladega, AL		D. Allison		D. Allison (+67)
5/16	Winston Open (Charlotte)M. Waltrip		-----------
5/16	The Winston (Charlotte)	D. Allison		-----------
5/24	Charlotte, NC		D. Earnhardt		D. Allison (+111)
5/31	Dover, DE		H. Gant			D. Allison (+70)
6/7	Sears Point, CA		E. Irvan		D. Allison (+28)
6/14	Pocono, PA		A. Kulwicki		D. Allison (+21)
6/21	Brooklyn, MI		D. Allison		D. Allison (+67)
7/4	Daytona, FL		E. Irvan		D. Allison (+46)
7/19	Pocono, PA		D. Waltrip		B. Elliott (+9)
7/26	Talladega, AL		E. Irvan		D. Allison (+1)
8/9	Watkins Glen, NY	ESPN-L
8/16	Brooklyn, MI		ESPN-L
8/29	Bristol, TN		ESPN-L
9/6	Darlington, SC		ESPN-L	
9/12	Richmond, VA		TBS-L
9/20	Dover, DE		TNN-L
9/27	Martinsville, VA	ESPN-L
10/4	North Wilkesboro, NC	ESPN-L
10/11	Charlotte, NC		TBS-L
10/25	Rockingham, NC		TNN-L
11/1	Phoenix, AZ		TNN-L
11/15	Atlanta, GA		ESPN-L


Point Standings (as of 7/26):

1. D. Allison		2501
1. B. Elliott		2500
3. A. Kulwicki		2381
4. H. Gant		2372
5. M. Martin		2208
6. R. Rudd		2202
7. T. Labonte		2165
8. D. Earnhardt		2142
9. M. Shepherd		2111
10. S. Marlin		2106
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From: miata@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun)
Subject: Re: Mansell, Michael, . . . (German GP spoilers)
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:38:10 GMT
Summary: Couldn't resist...

In article <1992Jul27.223742.9018@utagraph.uta.edu>, b617zbb@utarlg.uta.edu (George M. Smiley) writes:
> And don't forget having an Andretti name assures one of high quality
> equipment right from the start, something that makes winning a little
> bit easier.

... and whining when things don't go quite the way you'd like them to
a whole lot more likely (and annoying).

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.  I just *really* detest Mikey (and his
daddy to boot; how long before one of them kills somebody?).

Steve Bruun (.sig still out on course, waiting for a tow)

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