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From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Subject: Re: How NOT to impress your girlfriend
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:45:53 GMT

In article <1782@shaman.wv.tek.com> robd@romance_king.NOT.com writes:
> 
> So...here it is saturday night....I told my sweety I'd make her dinner  
then
> draw her a bath and let her relax in peace...nice romontic  
atmosphere....
> So I start a nice hot bath, add the bubble stuff, light a couple candles  
and
> put them on the corners of the tub..turn off all the lights and call her  
in.
> She nearly swoons at the sight...a dream come true...slips into the hot,  
silky
> liquid, a sigh of contentment escapes her lips...Ahhhh I think...I have
> succeded in creating a lovely environment, one that conveys my desire to
> pamper and spoil this lady...
> Well....here comes Smokey! As always, she's GOT to inspect who/whatever  
is in
> the tub...it's just SO upsetting to see something getting that wet  
without
> any apparent hysteria..I pick her up and turn her around to see Peggy...
> WHOOF!
> Hmmm....what was that, whip the 'ol head around just in time to see  
Smokes
> long persian tail come back out of the candle flame and self  
extinguish...
> Major conflageration of naked body, panicked cat and maniacly laughing
> boyfriend all trying to escape the horrid cloud of burnt cat hair  
smoke...
> 
> Final Score:
> 
> Smokes tail: No apparent damage. I don't think she even knew what  
happened.
> Girlfriend:  Still in the mood for a bubble bath...but either the cat or
>              the candles have to go!
> Me:   Wiser....and still chuckling.....
> 
> 
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As if my job isn't ENOUGH to laugh about!!
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From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Re: How about kitty noises?
Organization: Motorola
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:34:04 CDT

My mother inherited a cat from my sister. She says "merp" also. that's all she
says. She doesn't meow either.  My "SAM" doesn't "merp" but does stand by the b
ack door and says "OW" which in cat terms is OUT.  Of course, we are trying to
get him to say "McDonalds" so we can cash in, but it hasn't worked yet.  Josett
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------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How about kitty noises?
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:50:01 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep4.184641.7188@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> colette@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (C
stuff deleted...>>
>I call it a "merp".  Both Fluff (RIP-19 years old) and Willow make that
>noise.  Speaking of silly names for cats, I used to call Fluff "Merps".
>It was the only noise she would make.  Never purred, never meowed.
>The name has been passed on to Willow.
>
>Colette Goodyear

My cats "merp" too (I used same name for it!).  The "merp" is one of
my favorite cat noises.  They always do it when I am petting them,
maybe thats why I like it.  It's like they are thanking you and
telling you they like the scratching or petting.  My Fermi will often
turn over onto her back while merping.  Cute!




--
Christie Shackelford
gt1167b@prism.gatech.edu
Meow!

Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 09:23:14 -0400 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Running (Cat) Hooves
Distribution: usa

>Does anyone notice that when their cats race through the house playing,
they so
>und like a herd of elephants? It's amazing how loud those little paws
can sound
>. (Of course, the floors are wood. Maybe that's why it sounds so loud!).
 
>pamcu:) (Loving owner of Max and Zoe-holy terrors)
 
I am constantly amazed how my one cat can make so much noise running
around our carpeted apartment.  The neighbors below must think I have
human children with all the noise!  Little do they know, that it is a
CAT!

Susan and Jester


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From: dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs)
Subject: Re: Yet another kitten story
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 04:16:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.094729.6629@iscsvax.uni.edu>
  klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Charlotte's kittens are just beginning to open their eyes (day 9).  Mark
>held the one whose eyes _are_ open up to the mirror, and the kitten
>hissed!  Mark was _very_ surprised.  Max (Mark's fat cat) still says
>he doesn't have the time of day for those little %^&@#s.

I presume you must know, Kay, that most kittens are quite capable of
"hissing" from day one.  (And Mark didn't know this?)  We used to acclimate
the kittens to human scent from the very beginning.  Our queens were
usually pretty mellow, and didn't mind us looking in on the brood.
Sometimes even before they were old enough to be handled we'd blow very
gently into the nest.  Just enough to get the human scent mixed in with
mom's.  Predictably, the youngsters would always "hiss" at us the first few
times we did this.  The sound of a one day old kitten hissing is hilarious.
I can't do it justice in a Usenet post.  Purse your lips, and make make the
plosive "P" sound very gently, at about the volume of a soft whisper.  But
even though they don't get any of the real hiss from the back of the
throat, that's exactly what they are doing.

BTW, the kitten hissed at its own reflection?  I thought that their eyes
usually didn't focus for a day or several after they opened?

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From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Re: Are Siamese Smarter!!
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Sep 1992 14:46:26 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: andrewr@ultrix.EBay.Sun.COM (Andrew Roach)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Catproof kitchen !!
Keywords: Cat Intelligence
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:28:23 GMT
Reply-To: andrewr@Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ultrix


	Our 12 week old siamese is a kitchen closet raider !!!!

We returned home the other day to find all 3 cats missing. After searching in
the obvious places, I heard a thumping sound coming from one of the kitchen
cabinets.

I open the door an out pop the cats !! They gave me that old "who me" guilty
look and walked off to their favourite couch.

I assumed that one of the two 6 month old Black ASH's had worked out how
to open the doors, but I was wrong.

An hour or so later I heard the thump thump again and went into the kitehcn to
take a peek. There was the little siamese kitten trying to open the door. He'd
pull the door back about an inch an let it go; when the door thumped shut he'd
try again. Each time he'd repeat the action slightly faster than the time
before. Eventually he managed to get the door to sort of bounce open and in
he'd go !! From inside he'd call to the two females and push the door open
from the inside. They would then both climb into join in the fun.

Now the question is: Are Siamese sparter that other breeds ? or is this one
gifted ? or are the two ASH's just dumb (after all in 6 months they'd not
managed to get in even once.

Anyway all the doors now have kiddie locks and the cats are once again safe
from the nasty stuff that lurks beneath sinks etc

Andy



Andy, I may be prejudiced, but I think Siamese are smarter.  Mine knows
"sit" and "give me your paw" and sometimes does this when we are eating.
Anyone else out there have a cat who does this??     josette
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From: krissie@locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Any help for a drooler?
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:18:46 GMT

In article <exuptr.597.716572309@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se) writes:
>
>I've got a drooler, too.  It comes from the area around their "canine" 
>teeth, as the flesh there doesn't fully cover the teeth.

well then, you do not have a CLASS A+ drooler ;-) my best droolers would do
it from both sides and the middle where those itty bitty teeth are.  ah yes, 
a drooler is wonderful.

my two best droolers, michael thomas age l8 and 2 days r.i.p. and bunny age
l7 approx. r.i.p. were like runny faucets.  mouse age l9 r.i.p. would never
have lowered herself to drool, it was too common a thing to do ;-)

my current crop of beastlets paddy and his two consorts, gabrielle and meggie
will drool.  but not of epic proportions.  it do believe it is a function 
that happens when they are TOTALLY happy.  at least that is when mine do it.

i believe i still have the droolers tally if anyone is interested in it.

kg

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From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Subject: Re: Enough!
Originator: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:39:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.090521.12905@phillip.edu.au> cbradburn@phillip.edu.au  
writes:
> 
> I was woken for the umpteenth time at 5 am this morning by two cats
> playing (in no particular oder):
> 	chasing each other around in circles
> 	opening the bathroom cupboards and knocking out the contents
> 	leaping on the bed an pulling the human's hair.
> 
> That's it! Enough!  I am not a human that tolerates lack of sleep.  Any
> offers for:
> 
> 1. one siamese, name of Keating (called after our beloved p.m. because  
they're
> both opinionated and arrogant.) approx. 3 years old.
> 
> 2. one domestic longhair, name of Seconds (too hard to explain). approx
> 2.5. years old.?
> 
> 
> No reasonable offer refused.

This sounds so familiar!  Our two cats (pests) also love to wake us
up at around 5 or 5:30 a.m. every morning.  Pyewacket (a.k.a. Wacky) in  
particular.  We think she's part Siamese, and she absolutely adores
chewing on the pens that sit in a penholder on top of my desk in the
bedroom every morning.  Also knocking over pictures, playing with
my spouse's loose change and wallet, meowing loudly and continuously,
etc.  Minerva is a bit more sedate, so her tricks are confined to
playing with our hair, sniffing our ears/faces, pawing my spouse's 
beard, etc.  At least several times a week, one of us will declare
"Enough!" and insist that we're getting rid of the pests!

--cheryl
From: gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie Shackelford)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat-compatible plants (FAQ?)
Date: 6 Sep 92 02:18:41 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I had a couple of spiny cactus plants inside with the cats,
and I recently moved them outside instead.  I don't know how
harmful it would be, but my kitten Dixie kept trying to play  
with them and came close (too close!) to sticking her eyes,
mouth, butt, etc..  She also tried to bite them, but I would
intervene.  I got worried that she would manage to get into
serious trouble some day, and that I wouldn't be around to
bail her out.

Maybe an adult cat can handle it (or take a hint).  Fermi
(3.5 years) isn't even slightly interested in cactus plants.
But then again, she isn't interested in most non-edible or 
non-moving objects.

-- 
Christie Shackelford
gt1167b@prism.gatech.edu
Meow!
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From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat always MEOWS !!!!
Date: 13 Sep 92 07:18:55 GMT
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <X4uyqB1w164w@jjruu.UUCP>, mike@jjruu.UUCP (Mike Riederer) writes:
> Hi All,
> I have a domestic shorthair that is about 1 year old.  She seems
> to be in perfect health, but constantly MEOWS!  She runs around
> like crazy, eats well, and uses her litter box.  What could be 
> the problem, or is it a problem?  Any help/advice would be 
> appreciated.  Please Post, because I can not receive E-mail.
> Thank You
> Mike

Hullo.  Some cats are just more talkative than others.
If you respond to particular sounds she makes that you 
enjoy, she'll probably make those sounds more often.  If she _only_
meows (seems unlikely), if you respond (i.e. carry on a conversation)
you might come to enjoy her meowing more, and find it less worrisome.

Before we got our first kitten, I read that if you respond to your cats meows
it will tend to be a "talker".  This seemed nifty.  Appleton was moderately 
quiet, but tended to coo.  I responded to whatever he said in kind.  As the 
book promised, he became more talkative, and continues to coo, meow, etc. 
in a friendly way -- he tends not to meow so much for the sake of meowing, but
to communicate to us or to his kitten.  

His kitten, on the other hand, came with a very unpleasant repertoire.  When 
they tussled, Muffin sounded like a tiny Donald Duck being strangled, and this 
was the commonest sound she made.                (she rarely made any others)
It was very off-putting, as was the thought of listening to it for 12-15 years.
Happily, this gurgling dropped out of her vocabulary almost entirely, as we 
ignored it, and probably as she became a better tussler.  At 17 months, she has
 a more standard vocabulary of meows, meeps and whines.       

So, if your guy is a talker, that's probably his nature, not a sign of 
something amiss.  If you don't like what he's saying, or when, you might 
be able to shape his behaviour somewhat through your vocal responses to him.

... Shu
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help, I need some advice!
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:23:46 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <92252.104831KAJ2@psuvm.psu.edu>, <KAJ2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Also, how do you dissuade a cat from a certain behavior when loud noises, and
> a squirt gun have no effect?  Both of our kitties couldn't care less about
> being squirted or clapping hands, or a loud no!  What's left?

Try a flyswatter.  Lots of sting, but not enough mass to do damage.  I also 
have a large collection of empty kleenex boxes, strategically situated for 
throwing. Big enough to find when you're 90% asleep and your glasses are off, 
heavy enough to travel 10 ft or so, but no mass to do any real harm.

As to Colby, in human terms he's about 12 or 13--, and as far as I know,
there is no cure for being 12 or 13 but patience (and maybe prayer?).

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
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From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Subject: Re: FUS question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:43:01 GMT
Keywords: FUS

scheng@cs.utexas.edu (Sheila Cheng) writes:

>My parents' male cat was just diagnosed with bladder stone (FUS).
>The vet told my mom that if she feeds Albert (the cat) with low
>magnesium/low ash special diet, then the FUS will probably not
>come back.  However, for some cats it might still come back.  I
>am just wondering what the likelihood of the FUS recurring if
>ALbert stays on a strict FUS diet ?  And what brands of cat food
>is best for this ?

There is a =chance= of your cat having recurrent problems with FUS,
but if he is kept on a strict diet it is a very, very small chance.
The problem with bladder stones is that only some types of stones are
treatable by a special diet.  If the kind he has is not treatable by
diet, then an FUS diet will not help him.  The only way to tell is if
he has an actual stone that is visible on radiographs and he is fed
feline S/D, the stone should diminish in size over time.  But if it
does not, it will have to be removed surgically and then analyzed for its
chemical composition.  IF it does get smaller, then he is forming the
type that can be controlled through a diet of feline C/D.

If this is the case, he can only be fed c/d and NOTHING else!!  This
includes kitty-treats and anything he might eat.  It only takes one
non-c/d item per week to begin forming crystals and become blocked again.
When owners comply and feed their cats nothing but c/d, I have
=never= seen it recur.  But in cats whose owners cheat and take them off 
the food, I have seen it recur many many times.  The problem is that
you cannot see the stones re-forming until the cat is blocked, and a lot of 
people will try and put the cat on something else because he or she
doesn't like the c/d.  Then, when "nothing happens," they switch the 
cat back to regular cat food and it becomes blocked again a few months
down the line.

You can ask your vet if you can feed your cat a supermarket brand
that is low in magnesium, such as the purina "special care."  
In cases that are not very severe, sometimes that will prevent 
them from contracting FUS again.

Good luck!!


-- 

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From: jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...)
Subject: Advice for care of Elderly Friend
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 22:25:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
Keywords:  Infection 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Hello all,
  As I am relatively new to this group I am hoping that some of you may
have some advice that they can give to help me. My wife and I have a
Black British Shorthair who is now 20 1/3 years old. Within the last
six months she has developed a recurring bladder infection which our
vet has been able to cure after a treatment of a high strength anti-
biotic for about ten days to two weeks each time. I got her for my wife
a couple of months after we were married and she is a very good friend
to us. This year she finally decided that our nine year old daughter
wasn't so bad and has even been getting friendly with her. (When you
are queen of the house as long as she was before we had our daughter
you have to take a while to make up your mind about the new arrival!)
  Anyway, I am hoping that maybe some of you may know of some holistic
treatments, or perhaps some hormones that we could try or suggest to
our vet.
  I am busy enough that it is difficult for me to get to NEWS as often
as I would like so if you could EMail me directly it would be a big
help.
  Thank you in advance on behalf of our friend.
							Jim Skeba

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From: katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty)
Subject: Re: Laryngitis virus?
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation -- Denver, Colorado
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:22:48 GMT

JDB6@psuvm.psu.edu () writes:
: Clyde appears to have laryngitis. He is quickly loosing his normal
: low meow and it is taken over by a high squeak! It sounds painfull,
: and he is "talking" much less than normal. One Vet said that there
: wasn't much to do if he was still eating and drinking normally
: (which he is, thank you :-), but if so, he probably has progressed
: to a sore throat and will need antibiotics. The Vet claimed that
: this is a virus that is "going around" now.
: 
: Has anyone heard of such a virus/symptom reciently?
: Any home remidies to run past the Vet? (New Vet, may not be up on
: everything yet...)
: 
: Clyde and I thank you for any information!
: 
Tris had laryngitis last fall. Of course, she began showing symptoms
(at least that I noticed) at around 12 noon on saturday, which is 
the precise time that the vet closes for the longest period of time!
How do they know this? Anyway, she was gulping just the way that I
do when I have a sore throat, and her voice was almost gone. I kept
an eye on her until Monday, and since her symptoms had not changed
I took her to to vet. Dr. East diagnosed her as having laryngitis,
and gave her an antibiotic shot. Her symptoms were clearing up by 
the next day. She lost her voice again about 2 months ago, but it
cleared up by itself an a day or so, so I did not take her back to
the vet for that occurrence.


Kathy
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From: poirier@ellerbe.rtp.dg.com (Charles Poirier)
Subject: Re: Problems with catflap
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:18:55 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <18262@acorn.co.uk> tbryden@acorn.co.uk (Theresa Bryden) writes:
>I am having a little trouble getting Shelly to use the cat flap.

I tried putting a food dish just inside the door by the flap, but that
was ineffective.

Here's what worked for me.  First, I wired the cat flap open for about a
week.  They would go through the open hole willingly enough.  After a while
they got accustomed to the hole as a normal entrance.  (Yeah, I lost a
little heat through the open flap, but it beat the interim solution, which
was to leave a sliding glass door cracked open!)

I then released the flap back to normal operation, and there was still
a bit of coaxing needed.  I'd get on the other side of the door from each
kitten and play peek-a-boo.  You know, push the flap open, and make with
the "here-kitty-kitty" bit.  After two or three session of this, both
Frenzy and Cassius got the idea.

It has worked out great.  Not only am I free from having to service
door interrupts, but also, I now blissfully thumb my nose at all the
kitty-litter discussion.  It's been six months since the last time the
litter box was used!  

	Cheers,
	Charles Poirier
From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Goodbye Thomasina-the-cute
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:22:35 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

It has taken me a while to reply, mostly because you have made me think...
first off, big net hug from me, and a kitten-kiss from Hemingway.   I lost
Mittens, whom I got when I was four years old, last year.  I had not been
home from college since September, and a week before I came home for
Christmas vacation he quite suddenly had a stroke and had to be put to
sleep.  Less than a year later, my parents sold the house (which I had
also grown up in).  Words of encouragement to you: it hurts, tremendously,
to lose someone as wonderful as your cat whether it was Mittens, with me
for thirteen years, or Thomasina, with you for so few.  And the world will
eventually go on...I have settled in my own "home" here in Seattle, with
Hemingway, and as long as there are the memories of both cats and homes
lost they are never forgotten nor neglected.

Best of luck, and sincerest sympathies,

--
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*>sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu<*		|  Forever fleeting away;
and Hemingway, feline philosopher	|  Who happy would be, let him be;
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