From: jonathan@cats.ucsc.edu (Jonathan Cano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: where to get Gnu emacs for your amiga.
Date: 9 Jan 1993 04:26:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


A while back I asked where I could find the ONE TRUE EDITOR for
my amiga via FTP.  I received many helpful replies and I now am
running GNU Emacs 18.58 on my unaccelerated A2000 and, while it
it a little bit sluggish (what do you expect from a 68000), I have
now reached "editing nirvana".

Since I today recieved a email message from someone desiring 
enlignment, I thought I would post two of the many messages I
got telling me where I could find GNU emacs.

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From barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu Thu Dec 24 11:33:03 1992
To: jonathan@cats.UCSC.EDU
Subject: Re: Gnu emacs - help me ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED
Cc: 
Status: RO


	I suggest you simply get GNU Emacs 18.58 for your Amiga!
It's available by ftp from amiga.physik.unizh.ch in 2 files,
names beginning like:

	/amiga/util/gnu/a1.26-emacs-18.58...

It's a very stable port and has been Amiga-ized.

                                                        Dan

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| Dan Barrett -- Dept of Computer Science, Lederle Graduate Research Center |
| University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA  01003  --  barrett@cs.umass.edu |
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From ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu Thu Dec 24 10:10:58 1992
To: jonathan@cats.UCSC.EDU
Subject: Re: Gnu emacs - help me ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Status: RO

Here is a compilation of useful programs posted by someone recently.
In particular, it explains where to get gnu-emacs 18.58.  (I use it at
home, and highly recommend it.)

Pat Palmer
-----------------------------

From: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Queens Univ., Kingston, Ontario, Can.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:21:41 GMT

Archive-name: amiga/science-faq
Last-modified: 1992/12/15
Version: 2.5

Compiled-by: Richard Akerman (akerman@qucis.queensu.ca)

v2.5 available by anonymous FTP from wuarchive:
                      /systems/amiga/incoming/text/AmigaSciSchool-2.5.readme

This document is a summary of info I have on hand about Science/School/UNIX
software.  It's a combination of things I have found out myself (I use most
of these programs), information posted on USENET newsgroups (mostly
uncredited, sorry), and responses I got to questions I send to commercial
product representatives.  I have tried to make the information herein as
detailed and correct as possible; please email me with any corrections or
comments.  

Programs covered:
1. MAPLE V
2. X-windows
TeX
  3a. AmigaTeX
  3b. PasTeX 1.3
  3c. DVIprint
  3d. dvi2lj
  3e. fig
  3f. ARexx macros for TeX
4. GNU emacs 18.58 A1.26
  4a. fifo.library & Csh 5.19
5. UNIX commands for the Amiga [every one you ever wanted]
  5a. man
  5b. diff
  5c. compress, uncompress, zcat
  5d. tar
  5e. tarsplit
  5f. ispell 3.3LJR
  5g. nroff
  5h. ixemul.library
6. GNU plot 3.2
7. FTP sites
Appendix A.  Programs on grind
Appendix B.  Programs on wuarchive


NOTE: some of these files/archives are very large.  Often they contain
source or other files you may not need.  If you are sending the files to
yourself over the phone lines, or other slow medium for which you may have
to pay, use the appropriate archiver on your UNIX system beforehand to
delete all unneeded files in the archive.  The most common archiving format
is .lzh and .lha, use the lha program for these.  See Appendix A for UNIX
versions of archiving programs (lha, zoo, unzip).  See note in Appendix B
about Amiga archiving programs.

There is a nice review of science software in the March 1992 (#48) _.info_,
a magazine whose demise is much lamented.

1. MAPLE V =================================================================

MAPLE V, a commercial "Mathematica"-like program is available for the
Amiga.

There is a review of Maple V in the above mentioned _.info_ article,
pp. 35-36.

There is a more recent review of Maple V in the January 1993 (Vol. 8, #1)
_Amazing Computing_, pp. 69-71.

I received a very detailed response to my questions from Maplesoft 
(specifically, from Joyce Brennan, Communications Manager).  Here it is, with
several screens of additional promotional information removed at the end,
and some of the other descriptive portions summarized.

From: jbrennan@maplesoft.on.ca (Joyce Brennan)
Subject: Amiga Maple V Posting - correction

> 1. Address, phone, fax

    |\^/|      Waterloo Maple Software
._|\|   |/|_.  160 Columbia St. West
 \  MAPLE  /   Waterloo, Ontario
 <____ ____>   CANADA  N2L 3L3
      |        Tel:  (519) 747-2373		info@maplesoft.on.ca
               Fax:  (519) 747-5284

> 2. system requirements

Systems Compatibility
   - Supports the following configurations, with and without
     coprocessors: Commodore Amiga 1000, 2000, 2500 and 3000
   - Requires Amiga DOS, version 2.04 or higher

Memory Requirements
   - 2 MB RAM and 8 MB disk storage

> 3. price: regular, site licence, educational discount

For Canadian Customers:
A single-user copy is now available for only Can $695 for educational
and government institutions (if the user can provide proof of their
affiliation), and Can $935 for all others.  Shipping and handling
is added to this price.  For additional information call 1-800-877-6583.

For U.S. Customers:
A single-user copy is now available for only US $595 for educational
and government institutions (if the user can provide proof of their
affiliation), and US $795 for all others.  Shipping and handling
is added to this price.  For additional information call 1-800-877-6583.

For Customers outside North America:
Please contact Waterloo Maple Software at the address or phone number
[above], or by sending an e-mail message to info@maplesoft.on.ca
and we would be happy to put you in touch with your local distributor.

For Academic Degree-granting Institutions:
Site licenses are required in order to run Maple on a network.
For academic institutions, a site license is calculated for each
type of machine, and the price for site licenses depends on the
number and type of machines running Maple.

Site licenses are calculated, as follows:

	Number 		Price of
	of Users	Multi-User License

	1		single-user license
	2 - 4		2 x single-user license
	5 - 9		3 x single-user license
	10 - 16		4 x single-user license
	17 - 25		5 x single-user license
	26 - 36		6 x single-user license
	37 - 49		7 x single-user license
	50 - 64		8 x single-user license
	65 - 81		9 x single-user license
	82 - 100	10 x single-user license
	101- 121	11 x single-user license
	Unlimited	12 x single-user license

This special site license option is available for degree-granting
educational institutions only.  For these multi-user licenses, you
will also need to sign a Software License Agreement, which we will
mail/FAX to you as soon as you arrange an order with us.

Although the above site license calculation does not apply to
non-academic sites, volume discounts and special multi-user licenses
are also available.

> and whatever else you would like to provide.

Maple V Features
   - Full implementation of Maple including interactive 3-D
     graphics with PostScript and IFF format output
   - Takes advantage of Amiga specific standards for session editing
   - ARexx port which supports all Maple V functions
   - Over 2,000 library functions

When you purchase Maple, the software package includes detailed
installation instructions, a tutorial introduction and two manuals
(Language Reference & Library Reference manuals).  On-site workshops
can also be arranged.

*******************************************************************
Free Upgrade to Maple V Release 2 for Amiga
*******************************************************************
Those customers who purchase Maple V for the Amiga from Waterloo Maple
Software now will be entitled to a free upgrade to Maple V Release 2
which is expected to be available for this platform by the end of the
first quarter of 1993.
*******************************************************************
Those customers who purchased Amiga Maple V from Waterloo Maple
Software any time AFTER June 1, 1992, will be entitled to a free
upgrade to Maple V Release 2, and will be mailed this automatically
as soon as it becomes available for distribution.
*******************************************************************

[There was a LOT of information about Maple V Release 2, and Maple in
general, here's a very brief summary, as this is a FAQ, not an advertisement

MAPLE V Release 2
  * adds 700 new functions for total of over 2500
  * highly programmable C & Pascal-based language has been further refined
  * "work with standard math notation and print publication quality results"
  * "stunning new interactive graphics, including animation for time-variant
     analysis"
  * combine text, graphics and math using easy worksheet interface
  * will produce LaTeX formatted output
  * will produce FORTRAN and C code]

2. X-windows ===============================================================

A commercial version of X-windows is available from GfxBase.

For more information contact
Dale Luck: dale@ntg.com

What follows is the response to my emailed questions:

From: dale@boing.ntg.com (Dale Luck)
Subject: X11 info

> 1. Address, phone, fax 

GfxBase, Inc.
1881 Ellwell Dr.
Milpitas, CA 95036
USA

Phone: (408) 262-1469
FAX: (408) 262-8276

> 2. system requirements

Minimum 1M RAM, 7M disk, recommended 3M RAM, 14M harddisk

> 3. price: regular, site licence, educational discount

Price: [US] $395,  Eduprice: [US] $316.  Site licenses available.

> and whatever else you would like to provide.

Please send a postal address and we can send you our
printed literature.
Also available, XView 2.0, Motif, Xtk programmers libraries.

3a. AmigaTeX ================================================================

AmigaTeX is a commercial program available from Radical Eye.  Comes with
TeX, LaTeX, MetaFont, Previewer, and Post 1.7 (for handling PostScript).

8 program disks + 6 font disks.  Hard disk installer program so you can 
install a minimum or full system.

It has a special font loading system so you don't need all of them on your
hard disk; it will request the font disks as needed.

For more information contact the author:
Tomas Rokicki: rokicki@cs.stanford.edu

What follows is the author's response to my emailed questions:

From: Tomas G. Rokicki <rokicki@CS.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: AmigaTeX

> 1. Address, phone, fax                                                       

Radical Eye Software
P.O. Box 2081
Stanford, CA  94309
USA

Phone:  (415) 322 6442
FAX:  (415) 327 3329
BBS:  (415) 327 2346

> 2. system requirements                           

At least two floppies or a hard disk, and at least 512K of RAM.
Three megabytes of RAM is recommended.

> 3. price: regular, site licence, educational discount                        

The main package is [US] $200; printer drivers are [US] $100 per set (organized
according to printer resolution).  Site licensing and group discounts
are available; write for information.  There is no special educational
pricing.
                                                                             
> and whatever else you would like to provide.

A free demo disk and product literature is available by sending Radical Eye
a FAX or a letter with your name and address.

3b. PasTeX 1.3 ==============================================================

There is also a Public Domain TeX called PasTeX.  Look on wuarchive,

/systems/amiga/utilities/text/utils/pastex-1.3/

(see Appendix B for file listing)

The files are full disks compressed with Zoom, from Fish #682
ux1: /amiga/fish/f6/ff682/Zoom.lzh  89055 bytes

3c. DVIprint ================================================================

If you have AmigaTeX but no printer drivers, you can try using DVIprint
from the PasTeX distribution.  It works remarkably well, just make a
tex:config dir and put DVIprint.printers in it.

Host athene.uni-paderborn.de                                     
                                                                 
    Location: /pcsoft/amiga/tex/pastex                           
           FILE -rw-r--r--      57858  May 26 00:00  dviprint.lha

3d. dvi2lj ==================================================================

If you have a LaserJet you may want to use dvi2lj instead of DVIprint,
it's on amiga.physik.unizh.ch (aminet) and mirrors

/amiga/text/tex/dvi2lj.lha  109185 bytes
[thanks to barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) for this info]

3e. fig =====================================================================

Also for TeX you may want the fig package, for structured drawing.
On wuarchive,

/systems/amiga/utilities/text/utils/fig.zom  319110 bytes

Uncompress with Zoom from Fish #682.

3f. ARexx macros for TeX ===================================================
 
I have uploaded ARexx macro things for TeXify and ToError for AmigaTex to
wuarchive, in /systems/amiga/incoming/utils

Ed-TeX-Rexx.lha    - AmigaTeX ARexx for Ed
Emacs-TeX-Rexx.lha - AmigaTeX ARexx for GNU emacs

There are also TeXify ARexx macro things for CED on wuarchive,
/systems/amiga/utilities/text/utils/texify-1.12.lzh

4. GNU emacs 18.58 A1.26 ===================================================

The author of GNU emacs and various GNU UNIX command ports (ls, mv, grep, ...)
is David Gay.  You'll need a couple MB of hard disk and RAM.

They are available from amiga.physik and mirrors.

Also, wuarchive

/systems/amiga/incoming/utils/

a1.26-emacs-18.58-bin.LHA
(full emacs, also ls, grep, sort)

(See Appendix A&B)

Contact David Gay: dgay@di.epfl.ch

4a. fifo.library & Csh 5.19 ================================================

Along with GNU emacs you'll probably want the fifo.library from Fish 588.
ux1: /amiga/fish/f5/ff588/FifoLib.lzh  40222 bytes

Also you may want to replace the UNIX sh with csh 5.19 from Fish 624.  I needed
to do this to use a TeX-shell in GNUemacs TeX-mode. (NOTE: Using ARexx is
better than using the TeX-shell anyway.)
ux1: /amiga/fish/f6/ff624/Csh.lzh  415097 bytes

5. UNIX commands ===========================================================

Most UNIX commands are available:

GNUEMACS:c
  etags                            grep
  ls                               rmdir
  sort
MRMan
  MRMan
UNIX:fileutils-3.3/c
  chmod                            d = udir - does some dir thing, no man
  dd - convert a file while copying it
  ln                               (rmdir)
  mkdir                            mv
  rm                               touch
  udir = d                         v = vdir - does a list thing, no man
  vdir = v                         (ls)
UNIX:textutils-1.3/c
  cat                              cmp - compare two files
  comm   - compare two sorted files line by line
  csplit - split a file into sections  determined  by  context lines
  cut    - remove sections from each line of files
  expand - convert tabs to spaces
  fold   - wrap each input line to fit in specified width
  head
  nl     - number lines of files
  paste  - merge lines of files
  pr     - convert text files for printing
  split
  sum
  tac    - concatenate and print files in reverse
  tail                             tr - translate or delete characters
  ujoin                            unexpand
  uniq                             wc
UNIX:grep-1.6
  egrep                            (grep)
UNIX:diff-1.15
  diff
UNIX:compress-4.0
  compress
  uncompress
  zcat
UNIX:UnixUtils/c
  gnutar
  uncompressbatch
  unshar                           uudecode
  uuencode                         uusplit
UNIX:TarSplit
  tarsplit
EDITORS:ispell-3.3LJR
  ispell

See Appendix A and Appendix B for locations

5a. man ======================================================================

a UNIX-like "man" called MRMan is available on Fish #281

ux1: /amiga/fish/f2/ff281/MRMan.lzh  46332 bytes

This has zcat included with it.  It supports a MANPATH, your choice of "more"
like utility.  You can use it to access all of the man pages for the UNIX
textutils and fileutils.  The ones to put in the MANPATH are the pre-formatted
/cat directories (usually).

You may want to modify the code so that it will recognize *.1 as a valid man
file.  You can use NewZAP, from Fish #574
ux1: /amiga/fish/f5/ff574/NewZAP.lzh  29756 bytes

5b. diff ====================================================================

UNIX diff is available from

ftp.uu.net:/systems/amiga/dillon/diff115.lzh

Also see Appendix A, B.

5c. compress, uncompress, zcat  ============================================

compress is available in the compress-4.0 distribution.  Note that to get
uncompress and zcat you simply copy compress

copy compress uncompress
copy compress zcat

The program operates according to the name it is invoked with.

5d. tar ====================================================================

UNIX tar is available on Fish #445
ux1: /amiga/fish/f4/ff445/Tar.lzh  104399 bytes
It may give you a total system crash when extracting from an archive unless
you use NewZAP (Fish #574) to apply the patch in Tar/patch01/src/bin.patch1
A patched version is also available on wuarchive,

/systems/amiga/utilities/cli/archive/tar-patched.lzh  124633 bytes
[patching by (Alan Bair) abair@parsons.sps.mot.com]

5e. tarsplit ===============================================================

For extracting from .tar archives only you can use tarsplit.
(See Appendix A&B)

5f. ispell 3.3LJR ==========================================================

ispell 3.3 LJR is available from wuarchive,

/systems/amiga/incoming/utils/ispell-3.3LJR.lha  550746 bytes

The hash file is about 500k, HD highly recommended.  The distribution now
includes GUIspell 1.1, it also has .el files for GNUemacs and Rexx files for
many editors.

If you already have ispell, the .el files for emacs are also available on
wuarachive, /systems/amiga/utilities/text/utils/ispell.lha

5g. nroff ==================================================================

There is nroff available for the Amiga to process man files.  It doesn't
handle many attributes.

wuarchive: /systems/amiga/utilities/text/utils/nroffamiga.lha  56822 bytes

5h. ixemul.library =========================================================

nroff requires v 39+ of ixemul.library, from wuarchive

/systems/amiga/incoming/misc/ixemul.lzh  78590 bytes

6. GNU plot 3.2 ============================================================

GNU plot 3.2 is on Fish disk 701
ux1: /amiga/fish/f7/ff701/GNUPlot.lzh  560824 bytes

7. FTP sites ===============================================================

Major US Amiga (+some Fish) site: wuarchive.wustl.edu [128.252.135.4]
Other US Amiga (+some Fish) site: grind.isca.uiowa.edu
Major US Fish site:  ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    [128.174.5.59]
Major Euro Amiga site: amiga.physik.unizh.ch [130.60.80.80]
                       mirrored on wuarchive /mirrors4


Appendix A.  Programs on grind =============================================

amiga/utils/
total 109
-rwxr-xr-x+    14418 Oct 27  1992 UU.LHA                - uuencode, uudecode
-rwxr-xr-x+      186 Oct 27  1992 UU.readme
-rwxr-xr-x+     1182 Dec 03  1991 UnixUtils.Readme
-rwxr-xr-x+   178639 Nov 24  1991 UnixUtils.lzh
-rwxr-xr-x+   496099 Oct 18  1992 amiga-fileutils-3.3.LHA
-rwxr-xr-x+   143291 Oct 16  1992 amiga-grep-1.6.LHA
-rwxr-xr-x+   584149 Oct 18  1992 amiga-textutils-1.3.LHA
-rwxr-xr-x+    32368 Oct 20  1992 compress-4.0.lzh
-rwxr-xr-x+    35664 Dec 03  1992 diff115.lzh
-rwxr-xr-x+   550746 Nov 24  1992 ispell-3.3LJR.lha
-rwxr-xr-x+     2451 Nov 24  1992 ispell-3.3LJR.readme
-rwxr-xr-x+    15444 Nov 03  1992 tarsplit.lha
-rwxr-xr-x+      725 Nov 03  1992 tarsplit.readme

unix/arc-progs/
total 15
-rwxr-xr-x+    37738 Jan 24  1992 Lharc.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+   237535 Jan 24  1992 Zoo210.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+     1165 Apr 15  1992 arc-5.21.readme
-rwxr-xr-x+    97925 Apr 15  1992 arc-5.21.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+   121707 Jan 24  1992 arc.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+    10579 Jan 24  1992 boo.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+     7256 Mar 11  1992 dmscheck.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+    88091 Mar 11  1992 lha-0.04.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+    81707 Apr 08  1992 lha-1.00.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+    32763 Dec 01  1992 unarj230.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+   116165 Jul 16  1991 unzip41.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+   245065 Apr 03  1992 unzip42.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+   304017 Sep 18  1992 unzip50.tar.Z
-rwxr-xr-x+   190819 Jan 31  1992 zip10.tar.Z


Appendix B.  Programs on wuarchive =========================================

Amiga (de-)archiving programs can be found in 
/systems/amiga/utilities/cli/archive

/systems/amiga/utilities/text/utils:
total 5155
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       667542 Dec 18  1990 tex-3.1.lzh
-rw-rw-r--  1 root        20155 Jan  5  1992 texify-1.12.lzh
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       319110 Mar 17  1992 fig.zom
drwxrwxr-x  4 root          512 Jun 25 08:59 pastex-1.3
-r--rw-r--  1 root       103403 Jun 29 00:03 dvipsamiga.lha
-r--rw-r--  1 root         2038 Jun 29 00:03 dvipsamiga.readme
-r--rw-r--  1 root        56822 Jun 29 00:03 nroffamiga.lha
-r--rw-r--  1 root         2313 Jun 29 00:03 nroffamiga.readme
-r--rw-r--  1 root        10428 Jul  7 20:30 ispell.lha
-r--rw-r--  1 root         2442 Jul  7 20:30 ispell.readme

/systems/amiga/utilities/text/utils/pastex-1.3:
total 3150
-rw-rw-r--  1 root         1027 Oct  9  1990 extras.readme
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       543209 Oct 11  1990 extras.zoo
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       458766 Oct  5  1991 disk-4.zom
-rw-rw-r--  1 root         1074 Oct  5  1991 README
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       702054 Oct  5  1991 disk-5.zom
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       339078 Oct  5  1991 disk-2.zom
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       681546 Oct  5  1991 disk-3.zom
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       456046 Oct  5  1991 disk-1.zom
drwxrwxr-x  2 root          512 Jun 25 08:59 metafont-2.7
drwxrwxr-x  2 root          512 Jun 25 08:59 previewfonts

/systems/amiga/utilities/disks/backup:
total 192
-rw-rw-r--  1 root       191648 Feb  3  1992 gnutar.lzh

/systems/amiga/incoming/utils:
total 10785
-r--rw-r--  1 root       969340 Oct 15 21:32 a1.26-emacs-18.58-bin.LHA
-r--rw-r--  1 root         2402 Oct 15 21:33 a1.26-emacs-18.58-bin.readme
-r--rw-r--  1 root      2963672 Oct 15 21:52 a1.26-emacs-18.58-src.LHA
-r--rw-r--  1 root         2401 Oct 15 21:52 a1.26-emacs-18.58-src.readme
-r--rw-r--  1 root       496099 Oct 15 21:55 amiga-fileutils-3.3.LHA
-r--rw-r--  1 root         1330 Oct 15 21:55 amiga-fileutils-3.3.readme
-r--rw-r--  1 root       143291 Oct 15 21:55 amiga-grep-1.6.LHA
-r--rw-r--  1 root         1325 Oct 15 21:55 amiga-grep-1.6.readme
-r--rw-r--  1 root       584149 Oct 15 21:57 amiga-textutils-1.3.LHA
-r--rw-r--  1 root         1330 Oct 15 21:57 amiga-textutils-1.3.readme
-r--rw-r--  1 root       550746 Nov 20 11:20 ispell-3.3LJR.lha
-r--rw-r--  1 root         2451 Nov 20 11:20 ispell-3.3LJR.readme
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