HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Re: Link to SA down (Sunday 26th July)
Reply-To: Peter Elford <P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au>    
Organization: Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNet)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 05:22:08 GMT


>Telecom have advised us that they need to carry out some urgent repairs
>to a section of optical fibre affecting the Adelaide - Melbourne 2M
>link. They may require up to 4 hours to complete the work which is
>scheduled to occur on Sunday 26th July from 1000-1400 (AEST).

It appears the problem is not as urgent as was orginally suggested.

We have just been informed that Telecom are unable to do the repairs
on the 26th July and are currently considering doing it the following
week (2nd August). When they have made up their minds, I will post 
another notice ...

Peter

ps. the times are Central Australian times, not Eastern ...
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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to public ???
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:05:22 GMT
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

In article <johnd.711784476@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au>, johnd@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (John Dodson) writes:

>>> 	4. NHMRC grantees will be given access to either the BRS or DIALOG 
>>> 		(commercial) systems with the expenses

>>You'll have to take it up with the NH&MRC.

 
> Any Idea who at NH&MRC ?

No.  I actually have no direct contact with them.
 
> Finding the people who make the decisions can be difficult sometimes :-(

Yeah I know! :-)

I've taken a copy of all the articles posted on this topic and
passed them onto the relevant people in the Departmental Library
who handle that sort of thing.  I've also given them mail and
news access.  They are in the process of writing an article for
posting in this newsgroup that will explain the Department's
position.  When they get it ready they'll post it. (It'll
probably come from John Holgate)

I really can't say much more as it's not my area.

Carl.

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Re: ABC on AARNET?
Reply-To: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
Organization: AARNet
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 04:01:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.095134.1@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au>, ewartd@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au writes:
|> Does anybody know if the Australian Broadcasting Corporation has AARNET
|> access?  I know that they have some sort of VAX system which is used
|> for electronic mail, but nobody I spoke to at Radio National knew
|> enough about computers to answer my questions.

They used to have a link via INFOPSI (VAX/VMS systems runing Digital's
X.25 software), and I suspect they can still be reached via that path
(particularly from UoMelbourne which still has VAX/VMS systems and
X.25 access).

They did not pay for AARNet mail affiliate membership, so there is
no way you can reach them via "normal" mechanisms.

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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:36:22 GMT

Hello Nick!

Monday July 20 1992 22:58, Nick Andrew wrote:

 NA> When I set up the Australian IXgate domain, *.fidonet.org went to the USA.
 NA> Now that the z3 portion is routed to Australia (Melbourne actually), the
 NA> situation is better.

As I understand it, only Fidonet's region 50 is actually routed to csource,
therefore the rest of Australia is still sent via the USA. This belief would
seem to be supported by the recent posting of MX records, I seem to recall, for
those networks.

 NA> Actually I have seen at least 2 more, in Australia. Relax - the situation
 NA> will stabilise eventually.

user%f*.n*.z*@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au, for example. :-)
This gateway also supports mail to Rainbownet, Gurunet and INTLnet, for those
who are interested.


Regards,
Hamish


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  Melbourne, Australia | Fidonet 3:635/552@fidonet     |         v
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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: Dr. David A. Winkler <Dave@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: New drug design mail exploder
Organization: CSIRO Chemicals and Polymers
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:55:37 GMT

_____________________________________________________________________
_____

ANCHODD: A NATIONAL COMPUTER NETWORK FOR THE EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION
BETWEEN DRUG SCIENTISTS.

This electronic clearinghouse has been established to provide a means for
rapid communication between scientists working in the drug sciences, with
a
view to sharing skills and resources and identifying potential research
collaborators.  ANCHODD (Australian National Clearinghouse on Drug
Development) functions in principle like an announcement at a scientific
meeting, except that the audience are the recipients of electronic mail
messages and their number and geographical dispersal is virtually
unlimited.

ANCHODD is an initiative of the CENTRE FOR PHARMACOLOGY, MEDICINAL
CHEMISTRY AND TOXICOLOGY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TASMANIA.   The initial
focus
was on the complimentary fields of medicinal chemistry and pharmacology
testing where there is an obvious need for collaboration between those who
synthesize or isolate potential new drugs, and those who can characterise
a
drug's pharmacological properties.  However, applications of ANCHODD are
not limited to this situation, and ANCHODD can be used wherever drug
scientists need to establish rapid contact with others who are potential
suppliers of goods or services. Three Australian scientific societies have
supported ANCHODD: The Royal Australian Chemical Institute, RACI (Division
of Medicinal and Agricultural Chemistry); The Australasian Society of
Clinical and Experimental Pharmacologists and Toxicologists, ASCEPT; and
The Australasian Pharmaceutical Sciences Association, APSA. 


ANCHODD uses the Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNet) a new
high-speed computer network , which was established by Australian
Universities to facilitate just this sort of interaction amongst the
academic and research community.  Pharmaceutical companies can become
affiliate members of AARNet through links with a sponsoring University or
CSIRO Division.

ANCHODD is an electronic mail address at the University of Tasmania.  Any
message sent to ANCHODD is automatically broadcast to all addresses on its
mailing list.  To join ANCHODD , send your request for registration to the
email address:

                        listserv@cc.utas.edu.au

followed by the message "subscribe anchodd Fred Bloggs" (but substituting
your own name for Fred's).

Inquiries are welcome.

If you are interested in ANCHODD but do not have an electronic mail
address, then please contact Stuart McLean (fax 002-202870) for advice.
_____________________________________________________________________
______
Stuart McLean                           Telephone (002) 202 199
School of Pharmacy                       Facsimile (002) 202 870
University of Tasmania                   International callers: 
GPO Box 252C, Hobart 7001                 please use 61 02 in place of 002
Australia
From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:41:14 GMT

Hello michael!

Wednesday July 22 1992 19:15, michael butler wrote:


 >> USA. Now that the z3 portion is routed to Australia (Melbourne actually),
 >> the situation is better.
 mb> Better but still not ideal .. whilst the volume is small in comparison
 mb> say, to trundling news about, private operators like myself are carrying
 mb> the costs of getting it into NSW (and other places) by means of an STD
 mb> phone call. Obviously this depends on your priorities and perspective.

However, this is better than the Fidonet zonegate to the US paying ISD rates for
the same data, and it would be marginally quicker, no?


Regards,
Hamish


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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp)
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to public ???
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 09:56:27 GMT

johnd@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (John Dodson) writes:


>I'd say that a Medline/Current Contents system could be had for a similar
>cost, with a modest contribution on the part of the users (and a contribution
>from NHMRC to enable free access to grantees) it should be able to be made
>into one of the most used AARNET services.

>How can we convince AARNET to support such a proposal ?

>>      -George

>johnd@physiol.su.oz.au

Some corporate sponsorship may be of interest.  Where I work our main
emphasis is on injury prevention, rehabilitation and workers compensation
claim management.  Medline access could be interesting to our organisation.
No promises, but certainly not dismissed out of hand.

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From: nick@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Nick Andrew)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 25 Jul 92 10:16:02 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32

hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt) writes:

>Which is why the MX for Fidonet in Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania is
>mapped to a site here in Melbourne.

I have no problems taking the MX record for NSW, ACT & QLD so long as AARNet
management have no problems. I have already mailed merlin@ieee.org to that
effect but got no reply.

>Unfortunately, Nick Andrew's gateway (while easy to use) does NOT follow
>accepted standards for gateways between Internet-type networks (eg AARNet) and
>Fidonet.

There is no standard for gateways between Internet and Fidonet. The Fidonet
"Technical Standards Committee" have stated that their purpose in life is
not to devise or enforce standards for Fidonet. They see themselves as
allowing network developers to invent, and them merely codifying existing
practices. And they haven't yet done so with respect to Internet gateways.

I think the "accepted standard" you're referring to is the so-called "uucp"
kludge where, to a Fidonet system, a message from anywhere on the Internet
seems to be from a single person "uucp" at 1:105/42. The actual sender ID
is sent in the body of the message and if a person wishes to reply, they
have to retype it - also in the body of the message.

The IXgate by default puts the full Internet address (domain form) in
the "from" field of the resulting Fidonet message - thus allowing a simple
<R>eply by the Fidonet recipient to find its way back to Internet correctly.

Fidonet has a limit of 35 characters in the "from" and "to" fields, which
means that certain valid Internet addresses simply don't fit. Not many.
99.8% of valid, non-gateway, non-%-kludge Internet addresses will fit.

If that's the point of contention you're raising about the IXgate then
you're sadly mistaken. For Internet addresses which do not fit within the
35-character field, the IXgate automatically generates a "uucp" kludge type
message, as well as providing reply instructions at the bottom of the
gatewayed message. And the IXgate accepts the "uucp" kludge on inbound
messages from Fidonet ... so essentially it is upwardly compatible with the
broken "standard" to which you refer.

>Interesting to note that cloud is also a gateway to Fidonet. :-)

Somebody had to be third, I guess :-)  The IXgate has been running since
1987 (*.fido.oz) and was the first Fidonet gateway in Australia. I believe
David Nugent's in VIC which currently holds the MX record for Zone 3 was
second. David's gateway, which is also Fidonet 632/348, seems to link into
the Internet through UUCP and then ACSnet.

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: gco@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au (Geoff Collin)
Subject: ADFA unreachable briefly next Tuesday morning (4/8/92)
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:36:50 GMT

Our router is scheduled for a ROM upgrade starting around 9.30.
Should be running again shortly afterwards.

Geoff

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: mbl900@anu.oz.au (Mathew BM LIM)
Subject: Overseas dialup connection
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:47:32 GMT


I am planning a trip overseas to a non-IP connected country and (being the
network junkie that I am) am looking for means of staying in e-mail (at least)
contact with home.

I'm contemplating taking along a PowerBook with a modem, then
dial up and run Serial Eudora to suck my mail across (and vice-versa).

Does anyone see any difficulties with this? 

Has anyone done something similar before?

I want to use Telecom's Universal Telecard to charge the costs back to
the office, but this involves an operator assisted call, will this be a problem?

Is the physical connection to a foreign telephone network a problem? (Different
cables, connectors, etc.?)

Any suggestions, experiences or other infomation welcome....

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to pu
Reply-To: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
Organization: AARNet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 07:01:07 GMT

In article <246600046@peg.pegasus.oz.au>, ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:
|> 
|> As a result of the message I placed here yesterday, I received
|> the following message from a gentleman in Namibia. As I have
|> not been following this discussion, would appreciate people
|> responding to him directly.

Please use use some care when mailing to Namibia (and other remote
locations). You will often find that their connection to the Internet
will be via a number of very slow, store and forward dial up connections
often between PC's and voluminous postings will cause delays and
blockages for them. Namiba is definitely not (yet) directly connected
to the Internet.

I'm not saying don't post, just asking those that do, to edit down
any summaries they might pass on.

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From: nick@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Nick Andrew)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:58:47 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32

imb@asstdc.oz.au (michael butler) writes:

> > However Fidonet's nets are geographically distant. A subset of the
> > nets (in NSW, SA & QLD) could logically be routed through the IXgate,
> > and the Victorian & other nets continue to go through the Melbourne
> > gateway. I'll see what level of support I can obtain for this setup.

>I can handle addressing (bidirectionally) of the form *.z3.asstdc.oz.au as of
>now. I assume that you can do similarly.

Yes of course. It seems like everybody wants one now!

>Please correct me if I'm wrong but
>isn't it just a matter of installing aliases *.n7**.z3.fidonet.org ->
>*.n7**.z3.asstdc.oz.au (to take my own system as an example) for the NSW
>segment at an appropriate AARNet site ?

You could do it that way. The sendmail.cf file on whichever site has the
relevant MX record could be modified. The messages would then travel to that
site, have their addresses munged, then travel to you through your AARNet
mail affiliate host.

Another way is to have new MX records made for the appropriate nets which
point directly to your mail host. Your mail host then has to modify its
sendmail.cf to pass {whatever}.fidonet.org to your host.

I see you have a .oz.au address. Do you have ACSnet or MHSnet? I'm not sure
whether either has an MX-record-like capability - which is required now if
you aren't connecting directly to the AARNet mail host, because messages
must be routed through another site.
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From: ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to pu
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:22:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:ccgavin.711247501@brolga:-484221486:peg:246600044:000:231
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!ilanet    Jul 28 16:22:00 1992


Sorry, just to change the thread a little ..

could some please supply me with an EMAIL address for the
national Library of Medicine??

Would appreciate any email address anyone has.

Thanks,

Sandra Davey
ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: spel@hippo.ru.ac.za (Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse)
Subject: Re: ABN Medline gateway available to pu
Organization: Katatura State Hospital, Windhoek, Namibia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:38:38 GMT

In <246600046@peg.pegasus.oz.au> ilanet@peg.pegasus.oz.au writes:


>As a result of the message I placed here yesterday, I received
>the following message from a gentleman in Namibia. As I have
>not been following this discussion, would appreciate people
>responding to him directly.

Hi,

I'm the one mentioned. I just wanted to find out if medline is
available by telnet on the internet. 

greetings, el

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Link to SA down (Sunday 2nd August)
Reply-To: Peter Elford <P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au>    
Organization: Australian Academic and Research Network (AARNet)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 07:05:27 GMT


This time it's for real:

Telecom have advised us that they need to carry out some urgent repairs
to a section of optical fibre affecting the Adelaide - Melbourne 2Mb
link. They require up to 4 hours to complete the work which is
scheduled to occur between Sunday 2nd August 2000 through till Monday
3rd August 0200. These are Central Australian times (GMT +0930).

Peter

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From: agarton@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: ABC on AARNET?
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:57:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Jul22.095134.1@emu.insted.un:-1332835584:peg:246600045:000:341
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!agarton    Jul 28 23:57:00 1992



For more information on ABC's telecomputing system call
Rob Garnsey on 02 692 0231. He not only helped to design
it, he's also building community based networks for
non-government organisations in the Pacific Islands on
a project called, Pactok. Thats, "pac" for Pacific and
"tok", pidgeon for "talk".


Andrew
<agarton@peg.pegasus.oz.au>
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: rik@nella6.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris)
Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
Reply-To: rik.harris@fcit.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:00:07 GMT

andy.linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton) writes:

>In article <rik.712290764@nella13.cc.monash.edu.au>, rik@nella13.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris) writes:

>|> 
>|> telnet libserver.massey.ac.edu

>Minor detail:

>telnet libserver.massey.ac.nz

oops, I claim insanity, or something.  Thanks Andy.

rik.
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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: chuac@brt.deakin.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: E-MAIL address to U.S. Uni.-URGENT NEEDED
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:29:09 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne

I forgot to put in a heading for the news I had just send out so this is a
repeat of the message I sent out a while ago.

I need to talk to someone at University of Boston urgently but I do not
know their e-mail addresses.  Could someone kindly let me know where I can
obtain the e-mail addresses to the post master of the universities in the
U.S., please ?  Please help. I need the information urgently.

Please send message to :

CHUAC@BRT.DEAKIN.EDU.AU

Thank you kindly. 
 
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.netstatus,qld.netstatus,bne.netstatus,uq.netstatus
From: ccgavin@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Gavin Stone-Tolcher)
Subject: Change of address to bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:35:22 GMT


The IP address of bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au will change on Thursday 13th of August 
1992 from

	130.102.128.1 
to
	130.102.2.1

Any host that has static entries for bunyip in a hosts file, nntp access file,
or dns files should arrange to change to the new address on this day.


Cheers,
Gavin....
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          The University of Queensland, QLD Australia 4072. 
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet