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From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Sport vs. Need
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:55:34 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I wonder how many of us who view riding as a sport started riding as a need.

I purchased my first bike ( RD350 ) as a whim, but after insurance rates
climbed and income dropped I was forced to sell my car and use the bike
and subsequent bikes as primary transportation, it remained this way until
I graduated college, got my first job and my first new car, but the
Bike has always remained.

Dave
DoD 1085
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> Just because they have teleports in Star Trek doesn't mean that they
-> wouldn't be patentable were someone to develop one. The *technology*
-> would be new. I doubt that A.C. Clarke had a clue about digital
-> filtering in the 50s.

 Clarke's short story was quite technical, Jody.  He proposed an analog
system, one just slightly outside the range of then-current state of the
art.  There is, unfortunately, no existing state of the art for
Transporter machines, nor any technical description of an implementable
idea of making one.

 The story didn't discuss filtering - the device was strictly an
antinode dealie.  With modern techniques and the idea, anyone could
have built such a system in the mid-'70s.  Since the story is widely
reprinted, the US Patent Office regs say it's in the eminent domain,
which means unpatentable.  Unless the company with the patent (their
name escapes me) also has a patent on some really hot algorithm for
their filtering scheme, they'll be left high and dry as soon as someone
who can read challenges them.
                                                  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:44:07 GMT

  Leather laws too? That's great! How 'bout whips and chains?


Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


==============================================================

 "Acid:   A substance that allows you to visit strange places
  without a passport"
                        OZ Biker 1992
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From: wbg@festival.ed.ac.uk (W Geake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Battery charging formula?
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:18:45 GMT

sabre@nomad.sas.upenn.edu (Andrew White) writes:

>Is there some sort of formula to figure out how long to charge an
>uncharged battery?  I just bought a new, uncharged battery for my '82
>Honda Sabre, and I have a 1-amp charger.  I would think that, if I
>only knew how many CCA my battery should put out (I don't), that
>I could calculate the time to charge.

>Anyway, how long -- 8 hours?  24 hours?  Does overcharging hurt?

If you don't know the capacity in amp-hours (is that what you mean by
CCA?) then don't worry.  Most batteries are overcharged in normal
running, otherwise we'ed all gradually get flat batteries (even those 
not sentenced to small Yamaha 6V electrics).  You can tell when a
battery is ready, either by looking at the charging current (falls to
near zero when done) or by feeling the temperature with your hand - once
the thing gets a little warm , it's been ready for a while.  At 1A, you
need not worry about damage.  Try overnight to start with (8 hrs?), and
if it seems cool to the touch, or is still running at 1A or so, leave it
during the day too.  Hope this helps.  Bill.  Univ. of Edinburgh,
Scotland.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: living to really flame! catching the tank on fire...
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:30:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.000934.1716@plx.com> pubs1@plx.com (Temporary Technical Writer) writes:

>Lee Steele AKA Dude Shade    DoD 503    85 Looowwwww  Rider
>Disclaimer: My employer doesn't know I'm that stupid. Ssshhh.
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>:wq
>
>
>:q
>p
>:q
>A
>
>A
>A

But we do.

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|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          '92 Seca II (Tem)       |
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|  "you act like a dick.  jokes are fine, but you have to make some sort   |
|    of motorcycle-related contribution in order to get away with it."     |
|                       -- bob pasker, referring to me                     |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hesh@cup.hp.com (Chris Steinbroner)
Subject: Re: That Colorado Thing Again
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:31:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: Chris Steinbroner <hesh@cup.hp.com>
Organization: HP-UX Kernel Lab, Cupertino, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.1]

Laszlo Nemeth (laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu) wrote:
: at the ride'n'feed.........actually i might not mind being the
: only one sucking the keg.........but i would miss getting a ride
: in with hesh.

careful there, you might fool people into thinking we have fun
out there in the snow.

if you'll share, i'll have some of that keg too.

-- hesh
From: max@admin.mport.COM (Max)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: living to really flame! catching the tank on fire...
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:31:52 GMT
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd) writes:

>So, you know, I've done this a couple times, spilled gas onto the hot engine,  
>and nothing happened, but *could* it happen?

>Diana

lost at night between northhampton and amherst, mass, i noticed the beater
bike that i had borrowed (cb360) was low on fuel. switched to reserve, and
found a gas station. as i was a little tired, a little lost in the country,
and just having a blast with the abused twin honda, i paid little attention
as i poured fuel into the tank. 

after about four gallons, i had to pay attention again. the fuel was
pouring past the reserve switch and running all over the (hot) engine. 
not wanting to fry my friends bike, i asked the attendant where the fire
extinguisher was (just in case). his eyes got real big, and he said it was
inside the station before running away. hmmm, free gas!

suddenly it occured to me that if the bike blew up, the station might also.

fortunitly, the gas needed more heat to reach its flash point, or a spark
to ignite. as casually as possible, i _rolled_ the bike away from the huge
fuel spill next to the pump, and wired the stopcock to the fueltank,
preventing any more fuel from leaking out when i went to the next gas
station to refill the bike. 

man, you'ld think that having a fire extinguisher near a gas pump would be
a federal law... 

-max


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Subject: Thanks all!  (was Widder Address)
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:23:02 GMT


Thanks to everyone who e-mailed and posted info concerning Widder
(410-D Bryant Circle, Ojai, CA 93023) and Competition Accesories
(1-800-543-3535).

Come spring I intend to have a nice 'lectric vest and gloves which
will put me on the road maybe a full month sooner than usual (Gads,
still 3 months of winter to go though...)

Thanks Again!

Jim Mulligan
mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu   79 R65 --> 92 K75S
 
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There are no problems in Nature.
- George Santayana

Perfect Tommy: "But why do I have to give her my jacket?"
Buckaroo Bonzai: "Because you're perfect."
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.market.vehicles,ba.market.misc
From: jeynes@adobe.com (Ross Jeynes)
Subject: Yamaha Venture for sale
Reply-To: jeynes@adobe.com
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:13:55 GMT

Motorcycle for Sale

	1983 Yamaha Venture 1200
	1200 cc
	AM/FM Stereo and CB
	Cruiser-style (looks like a Honda Gold Wing)
	Full Fairing
	Great for long rides (comfy)
	Registered until next June
	Shop Manual
	Fiberglass Lockable Saddle Bags
	Excellent looking bike!
	
	$ 2100

-Ross      jeynes@adobe.com       W:(415) 962-4917      H:(415) 964-6679
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:57:50 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <2435@mcdbos.UUCP> vinceg@mcdbos.UUCP (Vince Grove) writes:

>                        In France, you're free to engage in *unnecessary*
>risks but you also have to be prepared to pay for any consequences.

And who decides which risks are unnecessary?

-- 
============================================================================
Michael Kesti  Grass Valley Group, Inc. | "And like, one and one don't make
    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi (FSE) <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: a few questions from a wanna-be owner.
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:26:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson) writes:
>Hey, i was wondering if i could get a few general questions answered.
>
>1. Why aren't swing forks more popular? are they unstable? or just
>unconventional/too radical?

You mean like the RADD front end? Go to a bike show this winter and drool.

>2. a good cc range to 'start out' with would be?? (commute/Bay area freeways)

Small. Don't need a big bike to ride on the hiway. I'm 6'1", 185 lb, and
my first bike was a 350. No sweat.

>3. where do i look for a 'training' type of place, to learn starter stuff
>about cycles? (what are they called?)

Call the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) at 800-447-4700 or 800-883-3995
and ask for the site nearest you.

>4. what does a motorcycle license test entail?

What state you live in?

>5. I haven't seen a bike yet with fuel injection, what wrong with FI?

Look harder. BMW. Moto Guzzi. Yamaha. Probably others I forgot.

>7. when buying a used bike, i should look for problems in the: ____?

Bike.
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
                            Loud Pipes Suck
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fridman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Robert Fridman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW heated grips
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:48:57 GMT
Organization: UofC cpsc


> Is installing heated grips on my 1989 BMW R100GS a do-it-myself kind
> of thing?  The handle bars are not pre-drilled, so I'll have to drill
> two small holes on the left and one larger hole in the center.  I have
> to pull off the old grips, thread the wires through the handle bars,
> attach connections etc.... Has anyone done this?  Any hints?
> 
> Thanks,
> --steve                                          steve@presto.ig.com

I installed heated grips on my K75.  This is what I did:

Take off the handle bar
	- squirt some oil (or use compressed air) to take off
	  the left grip
	- undo the clutch cable from the tranny, remove the clutch
	  cable from the clutch lever.  Unhook the choke cable.
	- take off the left side handle bar switch assembly.
	- loosen the clutch lever assembly and slide off the bar.
	- take off the throtle grip, and pull out the throttle cable.
	- take off the right handle bar switch assembly.
	- loosen the brake lever assembly.
	- undo the the bolts holding the handle bar to the top
	  tripple clamp.
	- slide the handle bar out of the brake lever assembly.
	  (secure the brake lever assembly so that the brake reservoir
	   is upright).

Take the left heated grip and slide it on to the now removed handle bar.
After carefully letting the grip bottom out, move it back 1/4".  Thats
where it will be installed.  Now, mark the location of one of the holes
that hold the grip in place (the other hole is opposite).  Go to a
drill press and drill a hole (the exact size is specified in the 
instructions that should have come with the kit.)  Make sure that you 
drill straight and the bar is properly positioned.  After drilling through
both sides, put the grip back on the bar and make sure that both holes 
align.

Now turn the handle bar upside down and drill a hole in the center
(I think it was 1/2" but again, the instructions have the proper size).
	
Lastly, tie a strings to the wires from each of the grips, and feed
the strings through the center hole.  Compressed air works quite well
here:  plug up one end.  Inset the string in the other and blow air into
that end.  The string should pop out from the center.

Now you can assemble it all back again;)

	RF.

-----------------------------------------
83 R100
71 Super Beetle

I am horizontally opposed to anything not air cooled!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions about '84 V-30 Magna
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:50:02

In article <foo> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
   -> I have an opportunity to buy a 1984 V30 Magna w/10,000k miles.
   -> It looks well maintained.  The "asking" price is $1,600.

    A more appropriate price, assuming the machine is in excellent
   condition, would be $600.

Well -- maybe in your part of the U.S.A.  Around here, a bike has to
be pretty beat up before it gets that low.  Typical `beater bike'
prices in the bay area are about $1 per cc of engine displacement,
with well-kept bikes going for twice that, and late models for
thrice.

Don't happen to have my blue book handy.  But the other guy's
insurance company gave me $1700 for my '82, *after* core charges!
(of course, I just spent $1400 on cleaning up the bike and another
$300 on fun stuff...)

Three pals of mine are currently making money off the bike cost gradient.
They drive east in a large van, until they find two good deals on bikes,
buy 'em, split up and drive individually back to the bay area.  Here,
they fix 'em up and clean 'em, and sell 'em.  The net around $1400
per trip after gas, not bad for a nomadic lifestyle!


--
DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What is the DoD?
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:58:30 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

In article <1ggt3qINNhta@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:
>ObMoto: If you are on a canyon road, and encounter black ice, is there
>anything you can do to help minimize your chances of a dramatic spill?

Levitate.

Or maneuver yourself so that you'll be going straight when you hit it. But the
reason they call it black ice is because you can't see it, no?

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* 1987 Cagiva Alazzurra 650 (so sweet)    Insert witty, profound, humorous, *
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | elitist, esoteric, plagiarized, acrimonious, * 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dwjurkat@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Jurkat)
Subject: Dead battery
Keywords: battery alternator 
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 08:51:16 EST

I finished recharging the battery and it now reads in the Good range
on the hydrometer.   So does anyone have any suggestions?
Is anyone still out there or are you all away riding, weather be d*mn*d.
I finally cracked the Clymer and will try out some of the procedures listed.
To test it they say run it at 5000 rpms; is that when the alternator starts
charging?  I have hardly gotten over 4000 rpms so far.
The book said an ammeter with range of 0-10 Amps. What should the actual
charging rate be for various battery conditions?  Should I discharge it a bit
so that I will get some reading other than zero?.
Everyone have a good holiday!  :) :) :)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Bikers-in-bras
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:42:09 GMT

In <1992Dec17.102202.1390@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:

>Who knows: maybe the government will want to bring in a mandatory bra law....
>It would have to be Snell-approved, of course....
>maybe made out of Kevlar or fibreglass, bright flourescent colors for
>visibility....

	It might have some value at protecting the public, but the thought
of police setting up booby traps on the roads to catch the violators...

	Well, let's just say it wouldn't be the best in PR.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Best Bike for World Trip
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:10:55 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <Bz8CDy.1C4@quadsys.com>, roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
> I've been asked by a friend to give hime some recommendations as the the
> best bike to embark on an extended South America/Africa - possibly World -
> trip.
> 
> I immediately thought of a number of Paris-Dakar replica types (such as
> the BMW, Cagiva, etc..). Any suggestions?
>     ^^^
> Roland Besserer

Uh oh. I bet we'll have about ten or twelve answers that the R100GS/PD is the
best. 8-)

There was a write-up in the local newspaper a few weeks ago about a 
fellow riding a KLR650 from Alaska to Chile. (This is Victoria, so he was about 
a third of the way there.)

(No, I don't own a Kawasaki 8-) )
Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Subject: Re: ++GSX-R 750 VS 1100-Which should I buy?++
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:13:21 GMT

In <1992Dec8.154459.7734@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber) writes:

>I will be buying a new bike and am going to the 'sport-bike' style.  I
>have looked at two GSX-R 750s and have decided that this is the model
>I will buy.  I thought I had settled on the 750 until someone told me that
>his buddy 'loved' his 1100.

>I will be buying used and would like to know the following (email please):

>1) For $4000-$5000 What can I expect?

  A barely broke in cosmeticaly perfect bike.

>2) Are there any 1100s for that price?

  Yes, but not as many as there used to be.

>3) What is the repair record on both?

  By all accounts they are bulletproof.

>4) How is the 'back-seat?' (To all you SOs who are hangin' on!)

  It suck's. My SO in conversations with friends has taken to lifting
her right knee to her ear whenever she mentions the GSXR in order to
shame me into buying another seat. It worked. Road test this spring.

>5) Is either very bulky/heavy?  Do you know the curb weight of either?

  86-88 GSXR1100's are 500 lbs wet, 85-87 750's are 450 lbs wet.
Later models got significantly heavier but also received stiffer frames
etc. Still, you'd have to be insane to flex first generation frames on
the street.

>6) I am 5'11" 220 lbs, hoping to drop to 210 with the help of my SOLOFLEX.
>     How will it ride for my size?  (ie. I rode a Katana 600 and it seemed
>          small to me?)

  I'm 5'-7" and fit comfortably. Another 4 inches could make the
difference though. With your weight :-) you really should look at the
liter bikes, especialy if your considering carrying a passenger on a
regular basis.

>7) What is your opinion?

  Don't take chances. Ride before you buy. Try every large displacement
sportbike around and buy the one that fits you best.

>{Thanks for your reply!}
>-- 
>FOUR days of INSANITY left.  THE HYPEMAN.
>1983 Pontiac 2000 SE   1983 Honda Nighthawk 650   DECEMBER 12,1992
>   "BABY BOOOM"             MINT CONDITION         "TIE THE KNOT"
> 'SYSTEM FOR SALE'      "FOR SALE"-Best Offer!    ONLY 4 DAYS!!!!!

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   Jorg Klinger            |       GSXR1100        | If you only new who
   Arch. & Eng. Services   |          **           | I think I am. 
   UManitoba, Man. Ca.     |"The Embalmer" - IT175 |           - anonymous
From: tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:09:31 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <946@rider.UUCP> joe@rider.cactus.org writes:
->tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell) writes:
->]Yup...10 feet at 65-70 is insane.  I would not ride my bike on a daily
->]basis under these conditions.  I would get an 'urban vehicle'.  Maybe a
->]large buick or caddy, beat to shit with huge steel bumpers.
->
->poser.
->
>
Fool.

Terry