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From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Telnet tool for Microphone
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:20:57 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

>>
>>	So what else can we expect in Microphone Pro?  
>>
> 	My understanding (based on what they showed at MacWorld in Boston)
> is that MPPro will be MPII 4.0.2, FAXStf, plus TCP/IP Tools (Telnet & FTP).
> I would also assume a slew of new modules for LORAN (like for Unix Mail/News)
> and also Dialoger Pro tools, however I have no specific info on these two - 
> just a hunch.
> 
>>Is Microphone Pro going to be an upgrade to Microphone II like Filemaker 
>>Pro was to Filemaker II?  Or are the two products going to be developed 
>>concurrently like VersaTerm and VersaTerm Pro?  
>>
> 	SVC has said that the current MPII will be reduced in price to $195,
> with the new Pro package priced at $295.  Current users of MPII will be able to
> upgrade to the Pro package, but I don't know if a price has been set.

	That seems like a reasonable price for MP Pro since Microphone II 
currently retails for $295 and PacerTerm retails at $249.  Still I'd like to 
see a much cheaper version of Microphone that could at least run scripts 
created by the more powerful versions and could be bundled with modems at a 
reasonable price.  That would sure make selling custom LORAN apps a lot easier. 
I've lost more than one potential client because they couldn't stomach the 
$195 per station (street) cost of MPII.

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07102
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Telnet tool for Microphone
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:01:31 GMT
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.

In article <1992Sep1.142737.300@mis.mcw.edu> jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu writes:
>I have heard that Software Ventures is releasing a Telnet tool for Microphone.
>
>Has anyone actually got the tool?  It is supposed to go automatically to 
>registered users, but we don't have ours yet.
>
>Microphone is a very good terminal emulator for modem hookups, if the telnet
>tool is as good as the rest of the package it would be very attractive as a
>VT320 emulator.
>
>John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
>Radiation Biology Group
>Medical College of Wisconsin

	I don't have any official date or anything, but...
	Tool's done, manual's done, it's going with 4.0.2 as well.  We have 
to duplicate however many our installed base is and package everything up and 
let the post office do its thing.  I don't know how long all of that's going 
to take, but it shouldn't be too long, one would assume.
	The tool's really nice.  It's scriptable, and much faster than the
other ones I've used.  You can be the judge. If you'ld like I can post 
something when I hear that they've officially been mailed out.
	Please note that the eventual situation is that the telnet tool
is part of MicroPhone Pro, but current MicroPhone II users get it as well
because we'd already promised it to then.  If you buy MicroPhone II in
a month, say, you wouldn't get the tool.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: CompuServe, etc. Help?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:15:56 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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X-Xxdate: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:18:44 GMT

In article <18l1dnINNqvd@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> Ann Pinyan,
pinyan@ren.East.Sun.COM writes:
> I read through the FAQ's and got some
>info there, but nothing about buying internet access.  Can anyone help
>me out?

Sure. First forget the notion of providing internet access through
CompuServe. CompuServe is a sensible place if you have an occasional
brief Internet letter to send or receive, but on its basic plan
CompuServe charges 20 cents for every 10000 characters of Internet mail
RECEIVED, so a simple 100k file would cost $2. It's just not practical
for most people--far too expensive for regular access.

There are many commercial suppliers of internet access cropping up. Which
one is best for your friend will depend on modem speed and his area code.
I'm using msen.com because it's located right here in beautiful Ann
Arbor, MI--so I can stay on line near forever for  with a local untimed
call. Most of the larger networks charge $4-6 per hour for use of their
network phone facilities (although there are exceptions).  For a
comprehensive recent list, log on by anonymous ftp to liberty.uc.wlu.edu,
 and download:
/pub/lawlib/internet.access.

To answer your final question about the right modem speed, with 9600 or
14400 baud modems now available for $275-400, I wouldn't live with a 2400
baud modem. Maybe I'm spoiled!

Jeff
From: bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (Bryan Hilterbrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Wanted:  PB100/modem info
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:07:15 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <5182@gold.gvg.tek.com> bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (that's me!) writes:
>I have a Powerbook 100, and I need to get a modem for it.  I have some
>(hopefully) easy questions for PB100 people out there:
>
>	Which is better to get -- an internal or external modem (what
>	are the trade-offs with internal vs. external)?
>
>	I've heard about problems at high baud rates -- how high, and
>	are the problems made worse with either an internal or external
>	modem (or is it something inherent to the PB100)?
>
>	Any suggestions on modem brands?  I want at least V.32, V.42,
>	and V.42bis...

I got two E-mail responses to this -- one saying that internal modems
are the way to go (thanks Glenn!) and the other asking to forward any
information that I get.

There has to be a couple of people out there with PB100's and modems!
Speak up!  Speak out!  It's your chance to further humanity by spreading
your knowledge!

Thanks in advance, and please send me your information!!!
Bryan


Bryan Hilterbrand      bryanh@stout.GVG.TEK.COM  |     /\  /\
Grass Valley Group, Production Systems Division  |  __/ G\/G \__
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From: kehres@ima.com (Tim Kehres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: return receipt
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:34:25 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: International Messaging Associates, Menlo Park, California

In article <26AUG199203093909@opal.mgh.harvard.edu> cherry@frodo.mgh.harvard.edu (Mike Cherry) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.183236.11956@news.eng.convex.com>, tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes...
:
> >It's none of anyone's business when I've looked at their mail.

> It may be no one's business to know when you read your mail, but
> read-receipts are important. For example, when you are delivering
> information that needs to be acted on within a limited amount of time. It
> is necessary to know if the message was delivered.

This is why it is important to make the distinction between return receipts
(when a recipient has actually read the mail), and delivery acks.  Several
years ago I implimented a system that provided both to a large user base 
(several thousand users).  What we found is that people said that they wanted
return receipts, but what they really meant was that they wanted to know that
the message made it sucessfully to the recipient (a delivery ack).

IMHO, both need to be implimented, but given the choice of only one, I would
vote for the delivery ack.

BTW, I fully agree with the above statement "It's none of anyone's business
when I've looked at their mail."  Hopefully designers will appreciate this
when designing new systems.

Best Regards,

Tim Kehres
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From: lpand@daimi.aau.dk (Lars Peter Andersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Help: An error while changing network selection
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:21:43 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

>> Hi,
>>   I have installed an Apple Ethernet NB Card in my IIcx (7.0.1 + TU 1.1.1).
>> When I select the EtherTalk extension in the Network control panal,
>> I receive the following message:
>> 
>>   An error occured while trying to install the selected
>>   AppleTalk connection.  The built-in LocalTalk port will be used
>>   instead.
>> 
>> Why am I getting this message ?  How can I overcome this problem?
>> 
>Sounds like your Ethernet connection is faulty. The card thinks the network
>is either disconnected or continually busy, and refuses to send packets.
>Appletalk needs to send a few packets at startup to find a free node number.

>Check connectors, ask your local network manager to show up with their test
>equipment, etc.

There is another possibility for faults here. The Apple Ethernet NB Card
is not supported by the normal ethertalk installed by the system disks.
You have to use the enclosed disk to install the correct Ethertalk.

\Lars

Lars Andersen,  Aarhus University, Information and Mediascience.
email rodgrim@imv.aau.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal)
Subject: Re: FTP bet. MAC and UNIX
Reply-To: ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal)
Organization: RIVM
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:02:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.201100.11546@ms.uky.edu> justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin
Sullivan) writes:

>
>Why not just use Fetch 2.1 for your FTPing needs? It makes life SOOO much  
>easier..
>

Except if system administrators had installed a ftp gateway to the internet, as
ours have...


Ron Roozendaal
Nat. Institute on Public Health and Environmental Protection
The netherlands
ron@rivm.nl
From: myg@pacersoft.com (Mark Y. Geschelin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Telnet, MacTCP, and Quadra System 7.0.1 (Q)
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:37:54 GMT
Organization: PacerSoftware
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

spenderg@world.std.com (Stephen L Pendergast)

If you are running Virtal Memory MacTCP 1.1 would be advisable.
I don't know that is your problem but It should help
-Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Problems with Asante EN/SC on Powerbook 170
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:36:33 GMT

After reading all of the negative comments on the EN/SC in this newsgroup
recently, I was more than a bit worried about installing 21 of them in a
lab of Mac Classic IIs. However, the lab has been running with zero
problems so far. 

I actually tested both the EN/SC and the DaynaPort/SC. Both worked fine on
the Classic II and performance was the same in all of my tests. The
decision to buy the EN/SC was based mainly on availability and a bit on
price. 

My boss now needs a SCSI-ethernet adapter for his PB170. Even though the
EN/SC works fine on the Classic IIs, I think I will go with the Dayna
product for the PowerBook based on what I've read in this newsgroup. 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dy@shire.math.columbia.edu (Deane Yang)
Subject: NCSA Telnet 2.5 with SLIP ?
Organization: Mathematics Department, Columbia University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:00:21 GMT
X-Posted-From: shire.math.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I was wondering if anyone has figured out a way to use
Telnet 2.5 with SLIP. Or should I stick with 2.4.19?

Deane Yang
dy@math.columbia.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner)
Subject: Re: Eudora 1.3b46 & Superboomerang 4.0 Problem & Solution
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:21:22 GMT

In article <BuBLM6.ALz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, Kevin Miller
<kmiller@psych.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> The solution is very simple.  In the SuperBoomerang Control Panel you can
> exclude an application from being Boomeranged and you can also exclude any
> application from the Re-launch option.  Adding Eudora to these lists
> solves the problem.

I'd like to add a couple items.

1. The "Re-launch" option of SB is worse than useless as far as Eudora is
concerned.  Once the bug is fixed, it won't be an utter disaster, but it
still should be turned OFF for Eudora.  It won't work, and it could well
cause problems.

2. Somebody else tells me that "HAM" has a similar feature, and that it
causes the same problem.
From: mancini@fysik.uu.se (Derrick C. Mancini)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Ethernet on CI PDS
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 10 Sep 1992 17:22:14 GMT
Organization: Fysikum, Uppsala Universitet
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macintosh.fysik.uu.se

Does anyone out there know of an Ethernet adaptor that will work in the
Mac CI PDS slot?  We really need all three NuBus slots for something else.
I know that the CI PDS is similar in some ways to SI and SE30, and I know
that manufacturers make Ethernet adaptors for these PDS slots.  Will any
of these work perhaps.  Really would be nice if such a beast existed with
cache memory on board, instead of having to waste a NuBus slot.  Of course,
failing this, we might consider using a SCSI Enet adaptor.  Any experience
using these on the CI, and what difference in performance there is compared
to a NuBus adaptor?

Thanks,
Derrick
mancini@fysik.uu.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: MacPlus, Syst. 7, and NCSA Telnet?
Reply-To: Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Organization: Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:36:26 GMT

glen@Cayman.COM (Glen B. Glater) writes:
: I am trying to use a MacPlus running NCSA Telnet 2.4.02 *OR* 2.5 to telnet
: on our net.  The Plus has 4 Mb of RAM and is running System 7.01 (not 
: tuned up).

Have you run the MacTCP Plus Tool? There's a bug, so MacTCP doesn't run on
a Mac Plus when using system 7. Apple has a small program called the MacTCP
Plus Tool that patches MacTCP and fixes the problem.

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)     Ph:  +46 18 187817
Department of medical systems                  Fax: +46 18 187825
Sweden                                         Think straight - be gay!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ctwittwer@msscc.med.utah.edu
Subject: xremote?
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:39:12 MST

Does anyone know anything about the "xremote" protocol?  Is there mac software
available which does xremote?  I know that I can run a remote X session overs
SLIP, but I have MUCH easier access to an xremote server.

-Josh

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad)
Subject: Re: Dual stacks over serial line?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:52:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.160727.3429@phri.nyu.edu>, roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu
(Roy Smith) wrote:

> 	I'm looking for a way to have dial-in access from a remote Mac to
> our network that will pass both IP and AT.  I know about SLIP, and things
> like ARA and Shiva NetModems, but for the application I have in mind, I
> want to be able to use both IP services (X, POP, FTP) and AppleTalk
> services such as mounting AppleShae volumes.  Any suggestions?

Use ARA, MacTCP, and an AppleTalk/IP gateway like a Shiva FastPath or
Cayman Gatorbox.

On the remote Mac, install both ARA and MacTCP. Configure MacTCP just like
you would configure it on a LocalTalk Mac. Click on the "Server" button in
the MacTCP "More" display to tell MacTCP to get a dynamic IP address from
the gateway.

On the network end, you need an AppleTalk/IP gateway configured to provide
TCP/IP service via the MacIP protocol (IP-in-DDP encapsulation). 

If your ARAP server is a Mac on an Ethernet running ARA, you need to make
certain that your gateway is configured properly for what I call "sideways
MacIP". With FastPath 5, 4+, and 4++ boxes, use Shiva Net Manager and click
on the "IP Forwarding for EtherTalk" checkbox. With the FastPath 4, use the
FastPath Manager and select option switch number 7. With a Gatorbox, use
GatorKeeper and make sure that the "Restrict MacIP services to LocalTalk"
checkbox is UNCHECKED.

The zone name of the remote dialup Mac should be the same as the zone name
of the LocalTalk network to which the AppleTalk/IP gateway is directly
attached.

This same technique should also work with a Shiva NetModem.

This technique does not apply to the various new Mac SLIP products - those
products only support IP access, not AppleTalk.

Hope this helps.

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University
j-norstad@nwu.edu
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Tabby/MacFidonet
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 19:00:13 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

jason@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Jason Ehrlich) writes:

JE> Well, Mike Connick has posted some logs of his latest Tabby 
JE> 3.0 efforts onto the TABBY echo on FidoNet. But no one is 
JE> quite sure when 3.0 will be out, and if it will have ZedZap 
JE> or anything of that sort. Hmm... 

Actually, he did say something about ZedZap, in a roundabout way.  He broke
into a discussion about this new Formula 1 mailer from Italy (includes ZedZap)
 and admitted that while right now it's got Tabby beat hands down, we'll think
otherwise when Tabby 3 comes out.  He said that Tabby 3 will beat F1 for
features and performance.

JE> Rumour also has it that Craig Vaughan is working on a mailer 
JE> as well.

any idea what his intentions are for this mailer?

--Adam--
 
--  
Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH
UUCP: ...!n8emr!bluemoon!cmhgate!20.18!Adam.Frix
INET: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: carlc@hubcap.clemson.edu (Carl Robert Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Network Backups for Education
Summary: What are you using for Network Backups
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:15:28 GMT
Reply-To: carlc@clemson.clemson.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Microcomputer Center, Clemson University

Here at Clemson Center Computer, we have been using a network backup utility,
Retrospect Remote, to backup our local Macs on a combination PhoneNet and
ethernet network. We have found there is an extremendous need on campus with
our other departments for a similar service, and we are exploring the idea of
offering a backup service to our networked Mac (and PC) users. 

I am interested in any educational institution who has considered offering or
is currently offerring a backup service for Macs/PC over an ethernet network on
their campus. I particularly interested in getting more information on charges
(cost models), data reliability and liability issues, contract specs, etc. If
you are currently offering such a service, I like to also know what kinds of
problems you experienced initially, how many users do you support and what
system/hardware are you using to implement the service.

Any general comments pro or con to offering such service would be appreicated
as well. Please reply back to my AppleLink address (U1630) or on internet at
carlc@clemson.clemson.edu.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bobby Clark
Technical Consultant
Clemson Microcomputer Center
Clemson University
From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: fax operating {free, share}ware?
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:41:52 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

I bought the SupraFax Mac package. MacZone and MacPlace are selling them for
$379.00. I feel the price is reasonable because the stf FAX software itself
is $56 if purchased separately mail order. This package inckudes a hardware
handshake modem cable, MicroPhone 1.7 with an offer to upgrade to MicroPhone
II, and AOL disk. Shipping is only $3 and there is a money back guarantee.

I have limited experience with QLink II, bundled with a Zoom Fax modem. It's
a combo FAX and telecom program. If you have not used GlobalFax from Global
Village or stf FAX, you won't know any better. But QLink is much more limited
in its FAX component. GlobalFax is good, but it is not sold as a separate
package.
Bottomline is to go with stf FAX. The $56 package can be used with all FAX
modems.

--  
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
 Eric Choi - Internet: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org
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From: koshiya@virginia.edu (Naohiro Koshiya)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Generating PostScript file from apps?  -- Conclusion!
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:51:14 GMT
	<1992Sep11.141339.6959@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Virginia
Cc: nk4v

Following seems the conclusion.  Thank you.

Naohiro
--
In article <1992Sep11.141339.6959@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu> pjl@sparc10.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas) writes:
   Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.apps
   From: pjl@sparc10.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas)
   Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
   Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:13:39 GMT

	   1. Get System 7; there's an option right in the print dialog box.

	   2. For System 6: Immediately after clicking Print, type command-K.
   -- 
	   - Paul J. Lucas				University of Illinois	
	     AT&T Bell Laboratories		at Urbana-Champaign
	     Naperville, IL			pjl@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: X-Window???
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:59:04 GMT

Greetings from a new MAC user:

I have written a program that uses the X-Window interface and need to port it
to a Mac.  I have no experience with Hypercard.  My question is, "Is there a
version of X-Window for the Mac, and if so, where does one aquire it?"

I have never read any of the Mac newsgroups, so if this is a FAQ, I am sorry.
Feel free to flame away, just include the answer amist the heat.  Feel free
to respond via e-mail if that seems more appropriate.

Thanks a million!!!
-- 
-- Thad Crews                         (email thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)
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