HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta)
Subject: Re: Looking for Internet site to FTP "tin" mailer
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:15:40 GMT

William Daul (billd@informix.com) wrote:
: Someone I work with mentioned a mailer called "tin"(?)
: Is it avaiable off the net somewhere?  Where?  In 50 words
: or less, what makes it unique?

tin is an easy to use, threaded full-screen usenet newsreader that can
read news locally and remotely via NNTP. It makes saving and
post-process files very easy and is ideal for first time users as well
as experts.

For the latest version available, get:

	ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/tin/tin.tar.Z 
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.mush,comp.mail.sendmail
From: jeffrey@squid.tram.com (Jeffrey L Bromberger)
Subject: Backend for sendmail wanted (that won't crash MUSH)
Organization: Tramway Unix Systems
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:30:59 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Need something that won't corrupt the mail file
Keywords: sendmail mush

I am running a vanilla SysV machine, and I'm looking for a back end for
sendmail.  This should be able to add local mail to mailboxes.

You see, I have this "pseudo-hack" that I'm using now, but there are
problems with the MUA called MUSH.  Whenever I am using mush, and mail
comes in, there's a 50/50 chance I get the following messages:

Unable to lock "/usr/spool/mail/jeffrey": Permission denied
Unable to open /usr/spool/mail/jeffrey: Permission denied
Can't load new mail: "/usr/spool/mail/jeffrey" may be corrupted!

I have no option at this choice but to abort mush and lose the changes
I have made to my mailbox.  This gets very frustrating :-(

The decision I have made is not to bother fixing the hack, but to get
a different program to do the mail slam-dunk.  It only needs to be
called by sendmail.  If it has /bin/mail crude functionality, I can
live with it.  Biff support is not necessary.

My request - any suggestions on the best one to use?  We use mush and
mailx as MUAs and sendmail as the MTA.  I'd prefer something free (and
FTPable), but will listen to all suggestions.

Please email, and I'll summarize in about 2 weeks.  Thanks in advance
for your help.

j
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: bedaj00@DMI.USherb.CA (JOEL BEDARD)
Subject: Receive USENET feed by e-mail
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 04:42:16 GMT


Hi!

I'm searching a way to receive an USENET conference like : rec.games.chess
in my e-mail account.

Can someone help me?

Thank you very much,

     Joel

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: billcat@milton.u.washington.edu (Cory Sandahl)
Subject: Internet to HHS gateway
Reply-To: billcat@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:29:46 GMT

My father works for DHHS in Seattle, Wa. and I would like to communicate
with him via the HHS Gateway.  I am at the University of Washington on
Internet (billcat@u.washington.edu).  He is on a BANYAN network.  

I undestand the concept of first sending the message to the gatekeeper at
CFSAN_GATE but it didn't go through.

This is what I sent:

	To:	VAXMAIL@FDACFSAN.BITNET
------ Message Text -----
CFSAN_GATE: *<Name>@ofs.afdc@acf.sea

I also tried:
	To:	VAXMAIL@FDACFSAN.BITNET
----- Message Text -----
CFSAN_GATE: *BANYAN.SANDAHL

Neither of these worked.  Is it a problem in syntax or do I have to specify 
a node within the secondary address?

Please respond via private email if possible.

-CS
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Frequency of NFS lock problems w/ NFS mounted mail spool
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:11:36 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

stan@beldar.ncsl.nist.gov (Stan Janet) writes:
:
|You'd probably need a way to update all the non-diskless clients'
|/etc/sendmail.cf files from time to time, but with so many workstations,
|I bet you've already had to find a mechanism to do that sort of thing.

On SunOS you can use:

rdist (1)               - remote file distribution program

Tx. [we do]
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Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: MetaMail
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:45:28 GMT
Distribution: comp.mail.misc

khush@csskwh (Ken Hush) writes:


>Can anyone supply an address where it might be possible to get a copy of  
>MetaMail from Bell Communications Research ?

MetaMail? Mail about mail? Or what?

Soenke
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From: nauen@WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Mail Which Doesn't Go Through (was Internet to HHS gateway)
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:33:00 GMT

In <1992Sep10.182946.8036@u.washington.edu> billcat@milton.u.washington.edu
(Cory Sandahl) writes:

> My father works for DHHS in Seattle, Wa. and I would like to 
> communicate with him via the HHS Gateway.  I am at the University of 
> Washington on Internet  (billcat@u.washington.edu).  He is on a BANYAN 
> network. 
>
> I undestand the concept of first sending the message to the gatekeeper at
> CFSAN_GATE but it didn't go through. 

Can you be more specific?  When someone says mail didn't go through,
that's not of much help.  Exactly what happened to it?  Did you get
a bounce?  Where did the bounce come from?  What did it say?

The best way to get help from a list or newsgroup when mail doesn't go
through is to post a copy of what you tried and what you got in return.
You can delete any personal text, but the headers and error messages
could be of critical importance.

Also helpful would be copies of any instructions you have received from
management at the node or host which you are trying to use as a gateway.

(Or am I wrongly assuming that you've already written there for help?)

Ric <nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil>  <nauen%wrmain.decnet@detrick-emh1.army.mil>
           ^^^^^Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
        U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: khush@csskwh (Ken Hush)
Subject: Re: Help! Fido gateway wanted.
Reply-To: khush@mot.com
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Distribution: comp.mail.misc
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:52:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.224425.1@vax1.umkc.edu>  writes:
> 
> Hi folks!
> 
> Can anybody tell me, if it is possible (and if it is: how?)
> to get a message into the Fido Net via some gateway?
> 
> Thanx for your help
>                        Klaus

This is an extract from the Internet Mailing Guide, and it provides the  
folllowing Info:

#F internet
#T fidonet
#R john smith at 1:2/3.4
#I send to 'john.smith@p4.f3.n2.z1.fidonet.org'

Hope this helps.

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Computer Services, Applications Engineering              
Corporate Information Office  
Motorola                                       
1299, East Algonquin Road,                                                                      
Schaumburg, IL 60196                                                 
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: montasmm@ntmtv.UUCP (Medi Montaseri)
Subject: System mailbox ../spool/mail/user_mbox format, need help.
Originator: montasmm@nmtvs299
Reply-To: montasmm@ntmtv.UUCP (Medi Montaseri)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:35:55 GMT

Hello Earthians

Objective:
write a program to invoke another program when new mail has been received.

Now we know, mailtool(1) in sun world sets a flag on its icon. I also
know that some program writes a line like "You have new mail" to my
tty. I think this is done by checking /var/spool/mail/some_file file,
to see if there is any new mail. My question is how is this decision
made. That is, is the size of the file checked, or the time and
access, or the file is actually processed. If the file is proccessed
then I think the field Status is checked. If so what are the possible
values, I know it can be "O" or "OR".

References are appreciated as well.

Thanks

	Medi

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From: voisin@felix-e.crihan.fr (Christophe Voisin)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: SMTP mail on PC
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:08:51 GMT
Organization: CRIHAN, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I would like to receive my electronic mail on a PC running Windows 3
and connected to an Ethernet-TCP/IP network with an ODI driver. The
mail server is a SUN running SunOS 4.1.2/Sendmail/POP3.
Is there a free software able to do this ?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Tel: (+33) 35 15 04 29              | 15, rue du pre de la bataille
E-Mail: Christophe.Voisin@crihan.fr | 76000 Rouen
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: David.Blair@bbs.oit.unc.edu (David Blair)
Subject: how do i post internet to bitnet?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:39:31 GMT

I have an address that reads : icronay@depauw.bitnet

Could someone tell me how to make this internet readable, as i seem to bounce.

Thanks.

Please write me at artist1@rdrc.rpi.edu

David Blair
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp,comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards,comp.unix.admin
From: longstre@cae.wisc.edu (Jon Longstreth)
Subject: Re: /usr/mail/glenr.lock not creatable after 10 tries
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:51:18 CDT
Originator: longstre@ws-39.cae.wisc.edu


In article <23282@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, abao@sunwise (Angela Bao) writes:
|> glenr@aruba.UUCP (Glen Reesor) writes:
|> 
|> : mail: /usr/mail/glenr.lock not creatable after 10 tries
|> : 550 <glenr@onyx>... Can't create output
|> : 
|> 
|> I have a similar problem.   I have several HP 720 running 8.07 mounting
|> a Sun 4/470's /var/spool/mail as /usr/mail.    This SUN is also the 
|> NIS server for all these machines.    Mail worked fine for months.
|> The problem started occuring recently.   From time to time, I will get the
|> "lock not creatable after 10 tries" message during login, as root or as a
|> regular user.   The problem is INCONSISTENT.   Sometimes it happens only as
|> a normal user, sometimes only on certain machines.   Even worse, sometimes 
|> the login will completely hang.  Yet I can start another login session with no
|> problem and 'ps' indicates the hung login was at 'mail -e'.  I also notice
|> that the lock file is created with no permission bits set.
|> 
We have a similar set up, only we mount /usr/mail from a sun sparc-2.
Thing ran fine for about 2 weeks, then we started to get the 
"lock not createable after 10 tries" message.  Now the only 
response (or non response) we get is a hung process.  It seems to be
a problem with the lock file.  When the process is hung if we kill the
lock deamon on the local machine, the process comes back.  You can not
kill the process until the lockd is killed.
(of course this is a feature on hpux as you can't get a signal to a process
that is blocked on I/O :-)

We called HP about this and there response was
We will have an answer for you TOMORROW!

well, tomorrow was one week ago... still no response.

Any one out there have any ideas?

for now we have replaced mail and mailx with shell scripts telling people
to use elm.  (what a kludge!  yech!)

I hope someone out there might have an idea.

The oddest part is that it worked for weeks and the slowly stopped working.

--
Jon Longstreth         : CAE unix system staff             Dept. of Shade Trees
longstre@cae.wisc.edu  :"It's only water, in a strangers tears." -Peter Gabriel
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: bernstei@shrike.und.ac.za (Simon Bernstein)
Subject: Mail address for U. Madras
Organization: Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:08:53 GMT

I am posting on behalf of a member of staff here, who wants to be able to
exchange mail with people at the University of Madras, India.  If anyone has
a site address, or any other information, please mail me at
  bernstei@shrike.und.ac.za

Thanks for your help

  - Simon
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: tps1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Timothy Schlie)
Subject: Mail to Nationwide Paging Service
Summary: Send mail to a beeper
Keywords: mail pager beeper
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:59:28 GMT

Hello,
	My brother has a beeper/pager from BellSouth that can display a
small message in a 4x20 or so window.  I can call an 800 number and leave
any message I can type with the digits of a phone number pad.  I would
like to be able to send him a mail message.  I recall reading about it
somewhere, but I can't remember where.  Does anyone know of a service
to send a message from the Internet to thess nationwide pagers?  If so, 
please send me mail.   Thank you very much in advance.
- Tim Schlie

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.headers
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To: header reliable?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:43:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep07.153345.613@golem.uucp>, davidf@golem.uucp (David J. Fiander) writes:
> According to vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver):
> >
> >A common use of Return-Receipt-To: is to debug mail transport
> >problems.  It is a little cleaner and easier than mailing to
> >"nosuchuser@remote.dom.ain" or "<@remote.dom.ain:myname@my.dom.ain>",
> >when it works.
> 
> Once again, you are assuming that a) the receiving site honours
> return-receipt-to, and b) that the information returned will be
> usefull for debugging purposes.  SCO MMDF return-receipts say
> something like:
> 
> 	Your message (message-id) was received by the following
> 	users or their agents:
> 
> 		recipient
> 		recipient
> 
> The only way to reliably debug mail problems is to send mail to
> postmaster@remote.dom.ain asking her to return your headers to
> you.


No, I'm not assuming "the receiving site honours return-receipt-to".
That's why I wrote "when it works."

The headers from the MMDF response can be useful.  You will at least
get a trace of the route from the remote machine back to yourself.
With that route, you can construct a full RFC-822 source route or UUCP
!-path to send yourself mail via the remote site or to force a bounce.
There can be problems with these techniques if your site has stupid
AT&T /bin/mail which rabidly reroutes locally originated mail, or if
there rabid rerouters or sites which to not add headers in the path.
However, those are often clues to the problem.

You can use these techniques to probe the relays to the target and to
try to ensure the problem is not yours, before making yourself a pain
in the neck and/or a public fool by complaining to humans.

Bothering postmasters of busy sites is not a bright idea, until you
have at least tried to investigate things yourself.  Even a medium
sized site such as sgi.com receives dozens of messages/day for
postmaster.  People who obviously have not done any thinking or
investigating for themselves and so appear unlikely to be of help in
resolving their complaint can get ignored, particularly if it seems
likely the problem is elsewhere or if things are busy.  It's not as if
mail transport problems are interesting after the first few thousand,
as if there will not always be more to investigate, or as if many are
not caused at the complaining site.

Mailing to postmaster at a gateway for a large network complaining
about an individual machine within that network is a good way to be
ignored.  I bet you won't get much satisfaction complaining to
postmaster@decwrl.dec.com about a random machine in dec.com.  I know
that postmaster@sgi.com doesn't pay more than minimal attention to
problems with the thousands of machines deep within the sgi.com
domains.

In other words, sending mail to postmasters is perhaps more reliable
than return-receipt-to, but it is less reliable than either generating
a bounce or sending a circular message.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.sendmail
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (David W. Tamkin)
Subject: Re: Internet to CompuServe mail
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:08:57 GMT

rfritz@eis.calstate.edu (Ryan Fritz) wrote in <BuDKs2.5B0@eis.calstate.edu>:

| I have a question, though.  If I write a message to a compuserve user via
| compuserve.com, will the user be able to reply via the internet, or can
| messages only go to compuserve and not from?

The CompuServe user can use the /REPly command to address a letter back to
you.  I have consistently recommended this method (that the Internet user
write first and the CompuServe user /REPly) because the syntax for writing
to the Internet from CompuServe is this:

>INTERNET:user@site.domain       or if necessary
>INTERNET:bang!path!to!user

(the greater-than sign and the colon are necessary; a space after the colon
is permitted) and in my experience the site of it overwhelms most CompuServe
users.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
From: mfc@medoc.aux.apple.com (Matt Caprile)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Mail to France or mini-tel
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:08:10 GMT
Organization: A/UX Group, Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Aug27.205450.14813@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> mucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Fred Seaton) writes:
>I have a faculty at our university who is going to France for a year and
>is wanting to be able to communicate with the states somehow.
>
>She says that she'll have access to the "Mini-Tel" devices that are
>common in homes in France (She'll be in Paris), and was wondering if it
>is possible to communicate with BITNET and Internet users from that
>device.
>
>And, if it is possible, does anyone know how expensive it is to do that?
F-Seaton@bgu.edu

The French Minitel is basically a terminal and a modem bundled
together.  The original use was to provide online directory services to
the telephone subscriber (called "information" or "411" in the U.S.).
Since its introduction in the early 80's, several million have been
distributed. They were loaned for free when I was living there, though
that may have changed.  There are now several thousand services
available via minitel, from train and airplane schedules, to stock
market quotes, to vacation information. The postal service even allows
you to type in a telex message using the minitel, and they send it.
Some services are free, most are resonably priced (70 US cents for each
2 minutes) a few are unbelievable expensive.

So I guess the answer to the original question is that it is probably
possible to do so, and the pricing would depend on the service carrier.

The University probably has "an InterNet connection". It probably has
direct TCP/IP service onto the InterNet, and it is almost positive that
they will have email hookup, either through FNET (french net), or
thorough a X.400/X.500 gateway to the internet.



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From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: ALANET
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:30:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

ALANET, the American Library Association's data network on BT Tymnet, used to
be accessible from the Internet by the Intermail gateway at isi.edu. With the
demise of the Intermail gateway, is there *any* way of sending email to
ALANET ?

Thanks in advance,

Josh

Dr. Josh Backon
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL






Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: P70008@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Bill Nelson)
Subject: Re: Internet to compuserv mail
Organization: Motorola
Date: 10 Sep 1992 14:40:52 MST

They will be able to reply.
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Subject: Re: Internet to compuserv mail
From: rfritz@eis.calstate.edu (Ryan Fritz)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:31:13 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez) writes:
>
> In article <pcc.715296929@s1.gov>, pcc@s1.gov (Philip C. Cox) writes:
> > How do I go about sending a mail message to a compuserv user?
> > I have his numeric userID, but connot remember the format
> > to send.
>
> The format is:   xxxxx.yyyy@compuserve.com
>
> edo...

I have a question, though.  If I write a message to a compuserve user via
compuserve.com, will the user be able to reply via the internet, or can
messages only go to compuserve and not from?

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc