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From: weiner@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Jeff Weiner)
Subject: Re: ZNET 9214 (REALLY LONG!, I mean it).
Organization: U of Michigan, ITD Research Systems
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 17:48:13 GMT



This magazine, and others, are available from either atari.archive.umich.edu
or via Greg's mailing list.  There is absolutely no reason
that this needs to be or should have been posted to this newsgroup.

weiner
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: Memory management?
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:34:21 GMT

Being more of an end-user than a developer, I have a question about
memory management in a multitasking environment.  First I'll mention
an assumption or two:

1)  The grandaddy process (OS?) keeps track of any available memory
    it's been told about.
2)  Processes can request and return memory to this pool (OS tracked)
    at any time.
3)  The OS will free any memory allocated to a process if that process is
    terminated or exited.

Okay... now the "questions"
The OS pool (of free memory) can/will become fragmented.  Can this free memory
be defragmented if say a process requests 512K and only 2 chunks of 128k and
say a 370k chunk are the largest blocks available?  How about Multi-Tos?
can it defrag free memory?

If a process "starts" another process... is it possible(sp) to have this
2nd process continue after the peocess creating it is exited?  Or does one
need to access the "grandaddy" process and start the new process form there
in order to have it survive?  If this IS the case, does that mean that
in Multi-Tos one would need to access the desktop to launch a new process?
Alternatively, does it mean that one could not launce a process from a cli
and have it survive past the point the cli is exited?

Really... these are new thoughts to me, so short answers (not in-depth
technical discussions with names of gemdos calls...) will probably help
me figure out if this Multi-tos makes sense to me (or for that matter, Multi
tasking in general).  If a MMU chip is key to this... I'd like to know
how it helps.

jc
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization:  One of these days.
Subject: Re: Atari 1040STe STILL for sale...
	<1992Apr15.042451.24010@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Reply-To: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:50:18 -0600

In <12568@umd5.umd.edu>, Alok Dhir writes:
>
>Please don't send any more posts addressed to me, you give me a headache.

    What's the matter, doesn't your newsreader support killfiles?


-- 
There are a lot of intelligent people on the net that will go
ballistic when they are subjected to something stupid.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jesinger@spot.Colorado.EDU (Peter Jesinger)
Subject: FAX Software for Supra or Zyxel
Keywords: FAX modem Supra Zyxel
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:45:31 GMT


Hi,

is there any Software available for the Atari ST to send and recive fax
with the new combined V32bis and FAX modems from Zyxel and Supra?
Where can I get such software? 

Peter
-- 
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Ich bin ein .signature Virus. Mach' mit und kopiere mich in Deine .signature.
From: sytang@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Shoou-yu tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari UNIX, VME, Ethernet, etc.
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:12:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <z=1j4xg.mats@netcom.com> mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann) writes:
>baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>
>>>... but it you know of a good SCSI Ethernet, I'd
>>>be intereted in hearing details. ... I know there was a
>>>company doing such a device for Macs (in Utah?), but I never did get
>>>any more info on them.
>
>>	The company, Asante, builds Mac SCSI-ethernet cards. I am sure there
>>are other companies, but this is only one I know of (and have the address of).
>>Their address & phone number is:
>>	Asante' Technologies, 404 Tasman Dr., Sunnyvale, CA 94089
>>1-800-662-9686
>
>The company I had been thinking of was Dayna; their phone number - I think -
>is 801-531-0600 (the address I was given was 50 South Main, Salt Lake Ciy
>Utah 84144).  I never got any further info on this, though.
>
>Now...does anyone have details on either the Asante or Dayna SCSi Ethernet
>product? Performance, price, etc?
>-- 
>Mats Wichmann
>Systems Software Consultant
>alruna!mats@ossi.com (or mats@netcom.com)


 There is one more, it's compatibility system in Boulder, CO. 
 Don't have their phone and address handy, but them should have ADs in Mac type
 magazines. 
 As the price, they typical listed for $495 or less and mail order price is
 about $400. However most of them has 50% or so of educational discount for
 school, which bring the price down to $250 to $300 range.

 They use the SCSI bus to transmit information between the computer and the
 Ethernet, so it needs to share the SCSI bus witht other SCSI device (mainly
 the hard drive). This sometime will limit the overall transfer rate, but for
 most application they performed quite well.
 
 There is no softwrae for ST to drive such SCSI-Ethernet device, otherwise it
 would be a good way to add Ethernet access to ST, TT etc. Once the drive is
 availible, then the NCSA telnet shouldn't be not far way from porting to ST.
 
 We have 4 or 5 of the compatibility system's SCSI-Ethernet boxes for the Macs
 in the department. They are a small box of 5" X 6" X 1.5" in size, powered by
 a DC wall plug supply, a 25pins SCSI connector, a BNC connector for the thin
 net, a thicknet connector. It can tie to thin, thick and twist pair type
 Ethernet wiring. And internally has 32K(or 64KB, forgot the number) buffer.
 They can easily installed to any Mac with SCSI port (or any machine with SCSI
 port, but if I remember right, they only have Mac driver and maybe IBM and Unix
 but certainly not ST).


 Tang
 sytang@lamar.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Word Processors
From: Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:19:26 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Apr14.191844.21346@rhrk.uni-kl.de> schwager@arctecserv-2.informatik.uni-kl.de (Johannes Schwagereit) writes:
> In article <1992Apr14.085854.6299@actrix.gen.nz>, Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> > In <12159@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> twright@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Tom Wright) writes:
> > > 
> > > I've been looking for a decent word processor for my ST.  Right now I'm still
> > > using (gasp!) ST-Writer and it's okay, but I'd like to get something better.  

> > > a review of 1st Word Plus some time back and it seemed to have most of these
> > > features.  Can anyone comment?  Plug your favorite program, here's your chance.
> > > 
> > 
> > Well it looks like you had better start writing one, this is one
> > Platform that the Atari lacks...
> 
> This is definitely not true!
> I don't know the international (english-speaking) market, but here (in Germany)
> there are at least four or five excellent programs available:

My comments on these programs..

  SCRIPT   *** Mono only does not have a thesaurus or a English dictionary..
  SIGNUM II    *** Mono Only, as above, not word Processer. A Calligrapher.. 
  SIGNUM III   *** German only , as above..
  CyPress  *** So far have never heard about this one..
  That's Write  *** This could be the best there is..!! 

There is also Tempus Word and the French Redacteur and SCRIPT II.
 
> Each of these programs has the features you are asking for (exception:
> That's Write is the only one with PS-Output), is better than 1st Word+,
> has WYSIWYG, is fast and reliable, has nice outputs (on many printers),
> and is still supported.
> 
> (I'm using SCRIPT)
> 
> Tschuess,
>    Johannes

I do find Word Processers that use GDOS a pain as you can't load Fonts
on the fly and they are slow and also nead fonts for the printer..

Wordflair II is a Document processer and uses FMGDOS but does that
have the same problems as GDOS..

The English version of SIGNUM could no longer be support as the firm
that did the port I believe has folded...
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Best Vi-Clone?
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:47:31 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

andi@gmd.de (Andreas Rohrschneider) writes:

>I'm looking for a really useable VI-Clone.
>I've already tested leevee, ELVIS and such, but none of these could satisfy me

Eh?  I use Elvis 1.4, and it is an excellent clone of VI - it even has
more features (such as a ":prev" to complement ":n"), and lets you map
ALT-key combinations!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have trouble, it may be a config. thing.  One thing I noticed
is that VI assumes you are in VT52 wrap mode (which was true on the old
TOSes, but was changed for some reason).  A simple fix is to change to
wrap mode at start-up.


Warwick
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From: cmk57122@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher M. Kmiec)
Subject: Re: ST MAGAZINES
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:08:40 GMT

chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY) writes:

>What magazines are available in the US for the ST?
>I use to read STart, but they are not available anywhere here in Colorado.
>email chuj@horton.colorado.edu
>If you have a phone number to order these, please include it in the
>replies.

>						Thanks,
>						Jeff

The ones that I know of are: Current Notes, AtariUser, Atari Interface,
Atari Explorer, and two on-line magazines Z*Net and STReport.  The phone
number for Current Notes is (703) 450-4761, but I don't know off hand
about the others.

Hope this helps...

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From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari dead in NZ - NEVER!
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:20:38 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany

In <1992Apr7.231036.22913@actrix.gen.nz> Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>You have you facts wrong..!!!

>From the feed back back that I received Atari is no doing to well any were,
>the TT and Mega STE is a flop, and a lot of software houses are dropping
>Atari..

What feedback? From whom did you receive it?

>Don't just read the Bull that you get out of Stupid UK Magazines..

Well then ... here's some Bull feedback from a German guy:
We have about 40 STs here in our institute. They run fine and reliably.
They cause much fewer user problems than any stinking IBM clone. We'll
install an Atari network soon -- I know, of course, that there have
been sceptical opinions, but we'll see...
I'm doing my scientific work on Ataris and I have good reasons to do
so.

>Just live with the Facts and don't be a just Bigot...

I give that same advice to you.

>-- 
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>***  85 Donovan Rd        *    *   GEnie.  R.SHEPPARD5               ***
>***  Kapiti                        At least I don't Flicker,         ***
>***  New Zealand..          *      not like a dying light globe      ***

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY)
Subject: Re: GEMULATOR (WAS RE: SUDDEN VIEW VS.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:27:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.202512.28315@cheshire.oxy.edu> leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:
>
>And, for $180, you can buy a 1040ST with 1meg and Tos 1.0.
>
>Why the GEMulator?
>
>T.

And yes, no monitor, mono or RGB to go with it.  And no large capacity HD.
And saying no High Density drives as well. etc etc...
From: cgeorges@cory.Berkeley.EDU (chris georges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Founder of Atari?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:12:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.sd0viINN7l3
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cory.berkeley.edu


Could someone tell me who the founder of Atari was?
I think it was Nolan Bushnell, but my friend thinks Chris
Crawford had something to do with it, which seems totally wrong to
me.  

Thanks,
chris
From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Subject: Re: Yikes!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:31:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.111059.18429@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
>Flash does not provide VT2xx support.  I think you already use the best 
>ST program for this (Uniterm).  What exactly do you mean about the delete 
>key?  Uniterm allows you to swap the backspace/delete keys.

   Flash II does support at least VT200 and I'm pretty sure that 
Freeze Dried Terminal does as well.
--
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From: twright@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Tom Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Word Processors
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:42:16 GMT
Organization: U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA


  I've been looking for a decent word processor for my ST.  Right now I'm still
using (gasp!) ST-Writer and it's okay, but I'd like to get something better.  
I'm a real fan of Microsoft Word for the Mac, so something similar would be 
nice.
  Features I would want are:  automatic footnoting, style sheets or equivalent,
ability to import graphics and flow text, variety of font sizes and styles,
and Postscript-to-disk output.
  Note that I DON'T want a page-layout program, just a word processor.  I read
a review of 1st Word Plus some time back and it seemed to have most of these
features.  Can anyone comment?  Plug your favorite program, here's your chance.
From: johnj@echo.philips.nl (John Janssen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Compiler options to make program TT compatible?
Keywords: Lattice C
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:11:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, E.C.H.O. development department


Hi netters,

I hope you liked the MIDIFILE "playback" program
which I recently made available.
One person did have problems to use it on
the TT.

So I have a question:

Which switches do I have to set (within Lattice C 5.x.x)
to make it run on a TT?

Will it be sufficient to set the 4-byte align switch on,
or do I need more?

Thanks,

John

BTW. In case that you missed the program on the net:
It is available on atari.archive and GEnie and cs.ruu.nl.

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The Netherlands      or:    John.Janssen@atehv.bso.nl
Work: +31 40 756425 
Home: +31 77 513177  Atari Mega STE, PC 386 SX, MIDI, Astrology, C
From: plate@cdsmn.mn.org (Doug Plate)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Will you send me cons_fix.arc?
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:57:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cdsmn.1992Apr15.045746.14522
Reply-To: plate@cdsmn.UUCP (Doug Plate)
Organization: Dicomed Inc, Burnsville, MN.


I have been trying to get cons_fix.arc from atari archive for weeks now,
but for some reason it just won't cough up! (I use atari archive via
mail server).  I've been getting stuff from there regularly (today in fact)
so I don't know what's going on.  Maybe it's been moved and the Index hasn't 
been updated yet. I don't know, but rather than worry about it, could someone
mail it to me? It's very small.

Thanks,
Doug

p.s.  Martin, did you get the kermit you were looking for yet?  I tried to
mail you, but it bounced.  If not, drop me a note and I'll try again.
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PD Tetris WANTED
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:56:02 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

phu27@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Asmodeus) writes:

>I am looking for an Atari PD Tetris program for a friend. I would prefer
>a binary I can download by anonymous FTP if anyone can supply me the
>site name/address and location of the file.

IMO, The best is "cooltetris", at atari.archive.umich.edu in the file

		atari/games/cooltetrisV1.2.arc


Warwick.
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From: lynbech@daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: WANTED! atari.el for GNUemacs18.57 (1857bin8.zoo from aa)
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:34:23 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

sigrorn@icemark.oche.de (B.E.Heinen) writes:


>Could anybody of you be so kind to tell me where I can get the "atari.el"
>for the GNUemacs! I got the 1857bin8.zoo from a.a and dumped it, but when
>I start emacs after dumping it prints that it needs the term/atari.el file...

>Where can I get it? (Or if it isn't too long could someone mail it to me?)

>yours,

>   Benedikt
>-- 


Well, the file 1857bin8.zoo ONLY contains the files necessary for dumping an
emacs. For actually using it, you really need the file 1857elisp.zoo (could be
a letter wrong here, bear with my rusty memory) which contains the various
modes and packages. It is huge and contains many files you probably never will
need, but it is also very hard to tell what you NEVER will need, so I recommend
you to download it. I will however mail you atari.el if you really needs it.


>=============================================================================
>Benedikt Eric Heinen,                Matthiashofstr. 3, W5100 Aachen, Germany
>                                                      sigrorn@icemark.oche.de
>Voice: +49-241-408592                heinenb@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

>A man said to the Universe: "Sir, I exist!"

>"However," replied the Universe, "the fact has not created in me a
>sense of obligation."
>		-- Stephen Crane
From: boyd@phi.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: HD cache for the MegaSTe
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:06:08 GMT
Reply-To: boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department

In article <3354@equinox.unr.edu>, chan@pyramid.unr.edu (Kaho Chan) writes:
>Hello out there...
>
>Are there any suggestions for a HD cache for my MegaSTE either PD or commercial?
>
>I DID use Cold Hard Cache 3.5 this week but it caused a minor predicament for melast night.  As soon as I enabled it, my FAT tables started to deteriorate on 
>two of my partititions (drive F and G)... maybe I am wrong... but I am taking nochances...  After major surgury, I only lost 6 files (whew!)... (thanks, Brian
>T.)
>

I found Cold Hard Cache to be extremely reliable.  Perhaps it is something
in your auto folder/acc's that is screwing it up.  I would say without 
hesitation that CHC is the best cache program in the PD/Shareware realm 
(actually, I don't think it is in this realm any more; I believe a commercial
version comes with Diamond Back, and previous PD versions are null and void).

If you have an ICD host adaptor, you can use that software for caching.  If 
you ALREADY are, this might confuse CHC also!

My favorite thing about CHC was the stats (hit ratio, time saved, etc) you 
could get from the companion acc.  I was taking an OS class at the time, and 
it was neat to see what all the fuss was about (wow, that was many moons ago).

I now use my ICD software for caching, so no more stats :-(.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: New rumor about Atari Falcon and NeXT
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:15:54 GMT

NeXTStep may be cute, but certainly not necessary to bring a machine like the
Falcon into a workstation-style arena. There is currently a PD port of 4.3 BSD
for Intel 386 on a number of archive sites. It wouldn't be too hard to grab the
source for that and get it running on a 68030 box. I personally would rather
have real BSD instead of NeXTStep on MACH anyway. Especially since there would
be no licensing fees for the real BSD code.
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover)
Subject: Re: Rumours about new releases....
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:24:46 GMT


Now I'd heard a rumor about a 68020 version of the Mega STE, but
I don't really see it happening.  The 020 isn't much of a chip.
It has no onboard memory management unit, so MultiTOS couldn't
do hardware memory protection with it, it's overall performance
isn't much better than a 16 MHz 68000, and not many companies even
use it anymore.  Apple just dropped the 68020 in the Mac LC and
replaced it with a 16 MHz 68030 in the Mac LC II.
 
Also, remember when the ST first came out?  Remember how they got
the name "ST?"  It means Sixteen/Thirty-two, as in a 16-bit
processor with a 32-bit address bus.  That's why the TT is
thirty-two/thirty-two.  A 32-bit processor with a 32-bit address
bus.  If they don't go to a real name for the next generation of
machines (i.e. Sparrow and Falcon), then the 040 should, by all
rights, be called the SS, a 64-bit processor with a 64-bit bus.
 
We've already heard some genuine information on the first of the
new machines, nicknamed the Falcon 030, but we know that's not
its real name.  I figure since it's in a 1040-style case, it's
probably aimed at the lower-end of the high-power market, and
will most likely replace, or at least supplement the TT.  I
see the TT going away more than the Mega STE and 1040STE because
it's still Atari's bread and butter.  Very few games run on the
030 machines, so they still need to keep 68000-based machines 
around.
 
Just my two cents' worth.
 
Rob
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