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From: jdonald@us.oracle.com (John R. Donald)
Subject: Re: Snowball was snuffballed
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:03:04 GMT
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In article <1992Dec16.173249.2891@scorch.apana.org.au> cbaird@scorch.apana.org.au (Chris Baird) writes:
>The lack of _real_ uncategorised discussion in here is a real drag.
>Was this week's episode a `feel good' story or what?  Too sentimental?
>Too method?  Was there some fine detail in the animation that really
>stood out?  A plot-hole that large you could drive OFF's one-time RV
>through it?  Did any aspects of the show break new ground for Prime-
>Time TV? ...
>-- 
>El Bairdo,,  `Pardy Hardy makes you Tardy.'

There was no Itchy and Scratchy, so it sucked.

-jd


-- 
"In case you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic!"	- Homer Simpson

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From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: Who *Was* That Truck Driver?  (was Re: Homer & God)
Reply-To: canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 21:39:24 GMT

> bw462@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bucky Whaley) writes:

>Say, wasn't the driver a mole or something???

I swear that I've seen that character before (besides OFF).  I just can't
recall anything about where.

--
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From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Baby talk translator
Date: 26 Dec 92 04:39:45 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

In article <1992Dec24.155527.16315@cs.wisc.edu>rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.110009.4647@admiral.uucp>dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec20.184942.1748@cc.umontreal.ca>dufortm@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Dufort Michel) writes:
>>>
>>>       It is know that when then automobile was invented, we tought
>>>       that it was an invention worth to be used by everybody. But
>>>       now it's a major poluant and has become an other big society
>>>       problem. Altough the intension in building the automobile was
>>>       a good one right?
>>>
>>>       How about the baby stranslator? Would it's devellopement do
>>>       any dammage to the education of the baby and young children?
>>>       I mean the intention is good but would people get the habit
>>>       to use the baby transator rather than teaching the children
>>>       to "talk realy"?
>>>
>>>       This is not for homework. I'm just suggesting this as a new 
>>>       topic for the newsgroup.
>>>
>>>                                               Mike
>>
>>What a deep, thoughtful, and probing question, Mike.
>>
>>I think the answer goes a little something like this:
>>
>>It's just a cartoon.
>
>AMEN

Well *DUH*.
From: caldwell@astro.as.arizona.edu (Nelson Caldwell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: Molester Mole
Date: 24 Dec 92 19:39:56 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

>"Mad" magazine had a story by Wil Elder in the early 1950s with a central
>character much resembling our trucker. His name was, I think, "Molester
>Mole," and he was a criminal who specialized in digging underground
>tunnels into bank vaults and out of prisons. He was a one-shot character,
>with the face and general appearance of the OFF character. 
>
>I suspect that only the creators of OFF can confirm this reference, but
>the net is open to discussion on the subject.
 
If the reference is in fact to "Molester Mole," it is derived from
a character with that name in Pogo by Walt Kelly, not Mad by Wil 
Elder, though that's a good guess.  Perhaps Elder's mole had a different
name? Or maybe Elder and Kelly both used the same name? I dunno, but
there is definitely a Molester Mole in the Pogo Pantheon.
--
caldwell@astro.as.arizona.edu
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From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: [9f08] alpha release (corrections please)
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:29:38 GMT

g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>Homer:  [thinks] What does that mean?  Better say something or they'll think 
>        you're stupid. [speaks] Takes one to know one! [thinks] Swish!

Wasn't that "swift"?

>% More time passes. Bart is in the terrible two's. He bangs a spoon on a pan
>% while wearing a pot on his head. Marge is even more pregnant.

and has a headache.

>    ... During the pan when the kids go into the arcade, the lines get wavy
>        and we see two other video games called "SGI" and "MG"

Gee.. MG is Matt Groening?  What's SGI?  Like, to me it's Silicon Graphics Inc
but I doubt that's the ref, would it be?

>    ... While Scratchy tries to run he has as many as five legs

Ah, this is standard animation practice.
From: rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Baby talk translator
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:55:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Dec22.110009.4647@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.184942.1748@cc.umontreal.ca> dufortm@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Dufort Michel) writes:
>>
>>        It is know that when then automobile was invented, we tought
>>        that it was an invention worth to be used by everybody. But
>>        now it's a major poluant and has become an other big society
>>        problem. Altough the intension in building the automobile was
>>        a good one right?
>>
>>        How about the baby stranslator? Would it's devellopement do
>>        any dammage to the education of the baby and young children?
>>        I mean the intention is good but would people get the habit
>>        to use the baby transator rather than teaching the children
>>        to "talk realy"?
>>
>>        This is not for homework. I'm just suggesting this as a new 
>>        topic for the newsgroup.
>>
>>                                                Mike
>
>What a deep, thoughtful, and probing question, Mike.
>
>I think the answer goes a little something like this:
>
>It's just a cartoon.

AMEN
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Homer & Ren & Stimpy
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:46:50 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Dec22.223214.1619@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:
>>And in the "East Side of Spingfield" bit, Homer choking boy Bart bears a
>>striking resemblence to Ren!
>
>Now, Homer's been choking Bart like this for a LONG time.
Not my point at all. This was one of the first times he's been seen choking
a younger Bart , who looks more like Ren in that scene because his head is
bigger proportionally to his body. Not calling it a reference tho....

-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: syracurg@lp.musc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: Homer & God
Date: 23 Dec 1992 07:58:30 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

     I think Homer got pissed off at the truck driver to illustrate that
   he had the characteristics of a "Type A Personality" - characterized
   by impatience, competitiveness, poorly contained agression, among
   others.
     I didn't get the "joke" if there was one about E.A. Poe's house
   being moved.
     Type As, as you probably know, are prone to heart attacks.
     P.S. From the looks of my mail file, I think we're the only
   ones left on the net!
     Cheers!
From: winnipg@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Winnipg)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [9F09] Homer's Heart Attack DYNs
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 03:19:00 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:

> In article <1992Dec21.191856.27007@zeus.ieee.org> sbookey@ep.ieee.org writes:
> >
> >Haven't you guys figured out that it has nothing to do with your local affil
> 
> Most of the time you'd be right. A lot of local stations will cut the intro
> e.g. by cutting from LS's sax solo to the driveway, but Homer's Bypass was th
> first time I'd seen an *old* title sequence (couch folded out into bed; I
> forget what the blackboard quote was) on a new episode
> 
> >
> >I live in NYC and they do it here too.  It originates at the studio.  The lo
> >
> >episode, the shorter the intro?  They have been doing that since the first s
> 
> 
> -- 
> "A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
> I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
> think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
> these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.

So did anyone in the U.S. see the opening? Blackboard & couch scene?
Anyone mention what us Canucks saw?
From: abw@natchez.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Who *Was* That Truck Driver?  (was Re: Home
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:46:52 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Dec23.200223.22279@zeus.ieee.org> sbookey@ep.ieee.org writes:
>
>The old man driving the truck with Poe's home was the same Geezer that Patty and
>Selma have dealt with at the DMV.  When Patty was in love,  she let him have a
>license even though he couldn't see a thing.

Okay, despite all the recent reactionary cant to the effect that we
real fans of OFF are seeing references to popular culture where our
self-proclaimed intellectual and cultural superiors see nothing, I am
going to offer a reference for the "Mole Man."

"Mad" magazine had a story by Wil Elder in the early 1950s with a central
character much resembling our trucker. His name was, I think, "Molester
Mole," and he was a criminal who specialized in digging underground
tunnels into bank vaults and out of prisons. He was a one-shot character,
with the face and general appearance of the OFF character. 

I suspect that only the creators of OFF can confirm this reference, but
the net is open to discussion on the subject.

-- 
Al B. Wesolowsky    Boston      o Diane: "I have dire news."
abw@crsa.bu.edu     University  o   Sam: "Good or bad?"
From: chris@glencoe.apana.org.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Misc Didya notices and Freeze-frame Fun,,
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 22:35:38 AESST
Organization: The Novocastrian Public Access Project

Be thankful there aren't any movie references,, >:)

[8F15]	The Teachers' Lounge:
	- Mr. S. Skinner					 [Principal]
	- Mrs. Krabappel					 [4th grade]
	- Ms. Hoover						 [2nd grade]
	- Mr. Largo						     [Music]
	- PysEd teacher (cf: 7G06)					[PE]
	- Nurse (cf: 7F14)				      [School nurse]
	- Dr. J. Lorne Pryor			       [School psychologist]
	- Pale-skinned, black-haired, way-ugly looking teacher (female)  [?]
	- Mr. Glascock							 [?]
	- ``60s'' teacher, wearing sandals (male)			 [?]
	- Black curly hair and mustachioed teacher (male)		 [?]
 (8F17) - Golden haired, spectacled female	   [Glascock's replacement?]

	Among the books stacked in Lisa's locker:
	    Sociology  Teacher's Edition
	    HISTORY TEACHER'S EDITION   
	    The Answer Book  1946 edition
	    ALGEBRA  Teacher's Edition
	    Basic Math
	    TYPING ANSWER BOOK

[8F10]	_Lisa makes a fist_ as she and Bart start to fight over the
	name of baby.  Shock!  Very unladylike.

[8F16]	HomerKong-sized plot hole:  Why didn't Edna recognise Bart's
	handwriting?

[8F21]	The 2 minute parking out front of the KEM.

[8F24]	The name (and as importantly, the correct spelling) of the TV
	Yoga teacher in ``Kamp Krusty'' is _Sadrodin_Muraradad_

	How can I speak with such authority? -- In the 2nd season
	episode ``Blood Feud'', we can see the title of his (ghost-
	written) autobiography.

-- 
El Bairdo,,

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From: c8923075@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Subject: [*] Weekly discussion summary
X-Issue: volume 1 number 2
Keywords: simpsons discussionette
X-Motto: "Not to be used for any purpose, or in any manner, contrary to
	this label unless authorised under appropriate legislation."
Organization: The Club of Simpson.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 16:36:07 GMT

In an attempt to reduce the unnecessary level of noise in this newsgroup and
as a service to those readers who find wading through zillions of articles
one of the less attractive aspects of alt.tv.simpsons, here's a brief recap
of the past week's discussion,,

    + A likely goof was spotted in ``Separate Vocations'' -- the `Crazy'
      magazine in the confiscated property room has "Star Blecch VI" on the
      cover, yet the magazine was cancelled in 1983.
    + the previous week's attempts to connect an early MAD magazine article
      with Ralph Melish came under refutation.
    + a capsule for ``A Streetcar named Marge'' and the FAQ were released.
    + the overly stretched reference of the week award goes to Chris Burgess
      for his attempt to link the hospital scenes in "Wayne's World" and
      ``Homer's Triple Bypass''.
    + the new net.consensus for Homer's "Whatever doesn't kill me makes me
      stronger, right?" is not a quotation of Nietschze -- he's
      subconsciously recalling Lisa's line from ``Dancin' Homer''.
    + a plot-hole in ``Bart the Lover'' was considered. ``Why didn't Mrs.
      Krabappel recognise Bart's handwriting?''
    + a recent episode of `Dinosaurs' has Dan Castellaneta providing the
      (Lenny-ish) voice for the character of Zabar, `the Guy in the Woods'.
    + the exciting things to do in Baltimore besides visiting Edgar Allen
      Poe's gravesite.
    + the latest issue of Simpsons Illustrated gives the `official' names
      for a few of Springfield's citizens, but inconsistencies between it
      and the half-hour show have made a few people sceptical to it's
      `canonicity' (ie: "McBane" instead of "McBain").  And for the first
      time the magazine is now offering subscriptions to Canada.  The new
      "basic" subscription price is $7.80 for USoA readers and $11.56 for
      Canadians.  Call 515 243 4543 or write to "Simpsons Illustrated",
      P.O Box 10195, Des Moines, Iowa 50340, for the opportunity to feel
      smug and self-important when people ask to borrow your copy.
    + the 1984 olympics' boycott discussion rears it's rancid head.
    + several regional television stations in the US have picked up on the
      habit of using different introduction sequences.
    + anyone eager to make a fast and easy $50000 with an investment of only
      5 dollars might wanna take advantage of a special never-to-be-repeated
      (we hope) offer posted to the newsgroup.
    + Matt Greoning makes the newspapers once again, and in a personal
      interview gives away his secret of success and speaks of his
      admiration for musician Frank Zappa.
    + memories of Karl, Homer's assumedly gay secretary in ``Simpson and
      Delilah'' were revived.

-- 
Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>
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From: carl@class.gsfc.nasa.gov (Carl F. Hostetter)
Subject: Re: Homer & God
Followup-To: alt.tv.simpsons
Organization: NASA/GSFC
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:10:12 GMT

In article <1h9npmINNt47@cs.widener.edu>, syracurg@lp.musc.edu wrote:
> 
>      I think Homer got pissed off at the truck driver to illustrate that
>    he had the characteristics of a "Type A Personality" - characterized
>    by impatience, competitiveness, poorly contained agression, among
>    others.
>      I didn't get the "joke" if there was one about E.A. Poe's house
>    being moved.
>      Type As, as you probably know, are prone to heart attacks.
>      P.S. From the looks of my mail file, I think we're the only
>    ones left on the net!
>      Cheers!

Uh, folks? Remember "The Telltale Heart" by Edgar Allen Poe?

|===================================================================|
|         Carl F. Hostetter      carl@class.gsfc.nasa.gov           |
|                                                                   |
|                    Ars longa, vita brevis.                        |
|          The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.            |
|  "I wish life was not so short," he thought.  "Languages take     |
|  such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about."  |
|===================================================================|
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From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Subject: Re: [8F18] A Streetcar Named Marge
Originator: lewart@rsm1.physics.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Organization: UIUC Physics Department
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:37:11 GMT

In article <blah> c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird) writes:

> [It's not really polished, but it'll have to do for now. -rjc]

Excellent!

> Wow!  My mother the actress.  I feel like Lucy Arnaz-[something].

Lucy Arnaz-Luckinbill.

> % Homer arrives to pick up Marge, but Marge asks for a little while longer.
> % Marge doesn't see what's so bad about Stanley, while Homer in the background
> % performs a flying tackle of a recalcitrant candy vending machine.

Technically, it was a flying drop-kick.  Pure unadulterated comic genius!

Daniel Lewart
d-lewart@uiuc.edu
From: KitchenRN@ssd0.laafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: official spellings of some names
Date: 31 Dec 1992 12:56:06 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

Thanks to Alan Rosenthal for his exhaustive list.  Some comments/questions:
  
>Emily Winthrope, Mr Lombardo, Ringo Starr, Mr Largo, Groundskeeper Willy,
>Richard, Lewis, Sideshow Mel, Shauna (Kashmir), Rasputin, Prof Hipknow,
>Radioactive Man, Mrs Glick, Mayor Quimby, Mrs Hibbert, Dr Hibbert, Mrs 
>Hoover,Janey, Sherri, Terri, Wendell, Mr Bergstrom, Lionel Hutz, Herman,Bea 
>Simmons, Helen Lovejoy, Rev Lovejoy, Herb Powell, Jasper, McBane, Corporal 
>Punishment, Kent Brockman, Roger Meyers, Troy McClure, Larry, Sam, Wiggum, 
>Eddie, Lou,Karl, Carl, Lenny, Patty Bouvier, Selma Bouvier, Dolph, Kearny, 
              ^^^^^^^^^^
Who are Karl and Carl?
  
>Jimbo, Nelson, Maude Flanders, Rodd Flanders, Todd Flanders, Gov Mary Baily, 
                                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
This isn't the Mary "Bailey" who was played by Donna Reed in "It's a 
Wonderful Life," is it?
  
>Ms Botz, Jacques.
  
Where's Mrs. Krabappel?
  

End of returned message


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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: Homer & God
Summary: EA POE
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 14:08:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.171517.29710@burrhus.harvard.edu>, glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:
> >>      I think Homer got pissed off at the truck driver to illustrate that
> >>    he had the characteristics of a "Type A Personality" - characterized
> >>    by impatience, competitiveness, poorly contained agression, among
> >>    others.
> >>      I didn't get the "joke" if there was one about E.A. Poe's house
> >>    being moved.
> >>      Type As, as you probably know, are prone to heart attacks.
> >>      P.S. From the looks of my mail file, I think we're the only
> >>    ones left on the net!
> >>      Cheers!
> >
> >Uh, folks? Remember "The Telltale Heart" by Edgar Allen Poe?
> Yes, and it had NOTHING to do with heart attacks. There *are* obscure
> references in the show, and that scene has got to be one, but that's really
> stretching it

Not really.  Remember right after that we could hear the drumming
of Homer's heart - like in Poe's story.  If it had been someone
elses house being moved it would have been as funny a joke.

BTW - I once went looking for Poe's birthplace (it was a really
      dull vacation day and we were desperate) without finding it.
      However, it was in Baltimore, Maryland.  Not sure that
      tells us where Springfield is (let's not start THAT
      again - but it's a clue :-)


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From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: Make Money Quick
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:07:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.033707.19068@cunews.carleton.ca> dh195236@alfred.carleton.ca ( dh student 195236) writes:
>In article <725537683.AA02050@illusion.tpg.org> Billy@f105.n514.z17.illusion.tpg.org (Billy) writes:
>>How To Make Over 50 000 dollars FAST and EASY
>>
>>I realize that this message has nothing to do with this area, but I couldn't
>>find one apropriate for it.  The file CASH.ARJ in the file section of this
>>BBSwhich I recently uploaded gives a step by step procedure of how to make

Are you sure you put it on "THIS" bbs?  I looked all over the hierarchy of
the Unix file structure,  I even tried WHEREIS CASH.ARJ and I found nothing.
Are you sure you didn't accidentally leave it on another bbs.  Gee, I hope
you didn't misplace it.  If a file like that got into the wrong hands, then
we'd have another problem in this nation.  I can see it now... Oh the
headlines,  The agony of it all.  How can I ever watch the Krusty show again
when the headlines read "KRUSTY THROWN IN JAIL IN PYRAMID SCHEME".


>Apparently, this isn't one of those shady pyramid schemes. Its based
>on the trapazoid model that I remember faintly from somewhere in the
>'80s. God knows who would be desperate enough to even look into one of
>these things (dohhhhhh!!!!!)

Mmmmmmm, trapazoidal.

Lets hope that Lisa's intelligence keeps Homer from doing it.
From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Homer & Ren & Stimpy
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:54:50 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <1gtqqvINNpfa@cs.widener.edu> frank.rowe@adc.com writes:
>What was the deal with all of Homer's outrageously distorted facial
>expressions during his heart attacks?  Were they a ref to Ren & Stimpy
>cartoons?
>
>I've never seen Ren & Stimpy, but I've heard they contain a lot of sight
>gags like that.
>
And in the "East Side of Spingfield" bit, Homer choking boy Bart bears a
striking resemblence to Ren!

-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: rjm1@acpub.duke.edu (ROBERT MACKENNA)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: California University, etc.
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:45:53 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Dec21.052238.6366@leland.Stanford.EDU> ridenour@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Lynn Ridenour) writes:

    [ and systematically eliminates Berkeley, UCLA, and USC...]

Oh my God!  It must be Loyola Marymount!

Well, maybe not.  I still think it's Berkeley.  When someone OUTSIDE
California says "Cal", that's who they're talking about.  And I don't
think the exact geography is all that important.  I mean, if you believe
the newspapers, 75% of the people in this country have only a vague idea
where California is, much less the various colleges within it.

California University, Univ. of California -- they're all the same
thing, right?  (No offense to Berkeley types.)

- Rob Mac K

-- 
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