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gringort@wsl.dec.com (Joel Gringorten) writes:
>
>PS - If I ignore your patronizing, elitist tone, I actually glean a
>possible hint as to something that may make a difference.  You appear
>to put less of a hook on the scraper than I do.  Since a smaller hook 
>takes a shallower cut, it's likely to work better on troublesome wood.
>I'll have to try that.  However, I'm certain it has absolutely 
>nothing to do with your preparation with, ugh, sandpaper.
>----------

  I didn't really want to get into flames with this.

  However, the patronizing tone started with others in this string who
  implied that I didn't know what I was talking about when I said I finish
  with a scraper.

  I humbly apologize if my tone offended you, however, I do not back of
  one iota in my point:  I get an excellent surface from a scraper, even
  in highly figured material, regardless of what someone saw on a video.

  I take your point about sandpaper, and if you want to use a handplane
  you have my respect.  I have never had the patience, expecially when
  I get the same results faster with other methods.  However, I would
  prefer to plane if I had the time, due to the reduction in dust, etc.
  In fact, I am not sure why you would want to use a scraper if you can
  get your surface flat and smooth with a plane.  Seems like the job
  is done at that point.

  Your comment about "cornrows" with respect to the jointer is, however
  entirely incorrect.   The finish is dead flat, and perfectly smooth.
  I seriously doubt you could tell the difference between my jointed
  surface and your planed surface in a double blind test, though I am sure
  some people like to shove work through a jointer so fast that they get
  scallops.
From: jm@woody.mitre.org (Jeffrey P. Manosh)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Wall Tool Hanging System
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:31:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Research Computer Facility, MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA

I've seen a product in Workbench magazine called "classic trax slotwall system"
 made by Pickering Industries, WA.  The product is a wall tool hanging board. 
It is similar to pegboard except in place of holes there are horizontal 
slots which accomodate hooks. I called the manufacturer in Washington state 
to find a local distributor, but they told me that the product is not available
in the east due to shipping costs.
Is anyone aware of another manufacturer who makes a similar product? It's
a real neat alternative to pegboard.
                       Thanks
                       Jeff Manosh
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jjamison@bellahs.com (John Jamison RD AC)
Subject: Re: gore-tex vs columbia stuff
Organization: Bell Atlantic Healthcare Systems
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:23:03 GMT

I picked up a Helly-Tech shell last year and it really works. I played golf
last weekend in driving rain and stayed dry (under the jacket).  It was also
much cheaper than Gore-Tex.


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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Subject: Re: 1st time board stories...
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:16:31 GMT
Organization: Apple
Followup-To: rec.skiing

In article <1h1se2INNdnv@transfer.stratus.com>,
jbas@geronimo.az.stratus.com (Jerry_Bastida) wrote:
> 
> After much thought and a couple of months of reading rec.skiing I have  
> decided that this is the season that I become a 'dude' (thanx John Byrnes  
> for the syntax!). :-)
> 
> I'm heading for Seattle after Christmas to visit a friend (oops. I mean  
> Dude) who started 'boarding last season and I plan on trying it during my  
> visit. <gulp>!
> 
> I'd like to hear some stories about what you wish you had known before  
> your first day on a board.

If the snow is hard, use knee pads and wrist guards.

Take a lesson! If you don't, pick your first hill carefully. No slants
and no long flats. Once you get better, the slanting trails and flats
are easier to get thru.

Be prepared to fall getting off the lift. It takes a while to get it down.
If you do fall, get up and out of the way - duhh, common sense...

Get out of the way to strap up, after getting off the lift. I'd like to 
shoot the snowboarders that sit right in the middle of the trail leading
away from the top of the lift. Same applies at the bottom. Don't unstrap
right in the way of skiiers zooming into the lines to get on the lift.

Prepare to answer a bunch of stupid questions from skiiers... ;-)

Apgar@Apple.com   |   Eric Apgar  alias  Gar
From: gym@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Graham Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Re:Skiing in NZ
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:50:32 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <1992Dec10.205827.2420@dct.ac.uk>, mctmap@dct.ac.uk writes:
> Hi.....
> Re: The request for info on skiing in NZ.  I was there for about 18 months,
> and lived on Mount Ruapehu, in the middle of the North Island.  Ruapehu
> ("Roo-A-PAY-hoo") is home to two ski areas.  Turoa is the smaller of the two,
> and I never skied there, but Whakapapa (Fakkapapa) is without doubt the
> steepest and deepest!  

No way! Turoa has better and more snow and much better runs. Its only
drawback is that it is not open as much as Whakapapa.

-- 
Graham Matthews                 And it's true we are immune
Dept Comp Sci, Edinburgh Uni    When fact is fiction and T.V. 
gym@dcs.ed.ac.uk                is reality
From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: INFO WANTED: Ski areas around Pau, France (Pyrenees mountians)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 16:41:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Salut skiers!
Hello Skieers,

I will be visiting some friends in Pau toward the end of Dec.
One of them said something about skiing in the Pyreness Mountians.
Has anybody skied around Pau, France, and how will I find it 
compared to Utah skiiing?

(Lately I have been doing more cross country then downhill in Utah).

Post or email

thanks in advance
roland
From: siegel_r@mscf.med.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Are edges necessary for backcountry skiing?
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:52:17 GMT
Organization: Univ of Penn - Med School Computer Facility


	My wife and I are long-time advanced downhill skiiers who tried
cross-country in the woods and lakes of Maine last year and loved it. WeUd now
like to by some X-C skis which we can use on the flats and also learn some
nordic downhill technique. One salesman (an Alaska native) wanted to sell us
Kaharu XCD GTUs (waxable) which have a full metal edge and were also the
highest priced X-C skis in the store.

	Given that we are not that experienced X-C  skiers, do we really need
the full-length metal edge if we want to learn telemarking or other graceful
ways of going dowhill on X-C skis?  Would other 'off-track' skis such as the
Fischer country series do ? (at half the price!). Our other concern is that the
weight of the Kaharus and the heavier boots which we would buy to go with them
would slow us down along the flats and make those heavenly treks across frozen
lakes into arduous slogs !

Please post or mail any advice - thanks in advance!


			-Richard
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: zod@ncube.com (Operator)
Subject: Bear Valley Condition, CA
Reply-To: zod@ncube.com
Organization: nCUBE CORPORATION
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:32:46 GMT


I went skiing this past weekend. The amount of snow is incredible.
The lower part of the mountain was not open due to too much snow!
They were dynamiting the lower part to get it open for Sunday.
Unfortunately high winds didn't allow for lifts to operate on
Sunday. So before you go make sure, that you call them.


Captain Zod...
zod@ncube.com


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From: kflorek@mtholyoke.edu (Kim Florek)
Subject: SLC, UTAH Ski Condo
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:36:15 GMT



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From: hbrand@emr.ca
Subject: Places to stay at Killington
Reply-To: hbrand@emr.ca
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:56:03 GMT

Help!
I need to find a reasonably priced place to stay at Killington for New Years
weekend.  Anybody have any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.

Rob

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From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Re: Snowboarders Suck!!!!
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:56:21 GMT


In article <1gqlpnINNmih@mozz.unh.edu>, mtt@kepler.unh.edu (Matthew T Thompson) writes:
|> people, let's cut the bullshit.  There are as many skiers that suck as there 
|> are snowboarders, lets learn to get along with each other, at least on the 
|> slopes(This is recreation, REMEMBER!).
|> 
|> 
"Can't we all just get along.
Can't we all just please get along..."

Ski Vail!

( ;-) ;-) ;-) for the humor impaired...)
-- 

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From: sc7@ukc.ac.uk (S.Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Skiing in Scotland
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:00:20 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

Hi,
Can anyone tell me if it is a good idea to go up to Scotland for
skiing around the Christmas/New Year period?
I only have one skiing experience last year with a beginner's
course.
What are the ski resorts in Scotland? Is there enough snow
around this time? Where can I get more information as to
the opening days, accommodation and etc.?

Thanks a lot for the information.

Chan
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.backcountry,rec.climbing
From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Subject: Avalanche Transceivers
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:12:37 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

I'm looking for a discount source for avalanche transceivers.  Mail
order would be fine.  If you can help, please send email.
 
Thanks,

-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
From: kennb@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Ken Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Powder
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:32:56 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

In article <1992Dec17.084915.21575@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>This is covered in the FAQ.
>Don't.  Stand back.
>Instead call over myself

Yes.  Call the power "expert."  I'm sure the head plants would more
than make up for having to listen to him all day.

>Well I have a cold right now

Better stay home this weekend and leave the powder to us.




Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Salt Lake City Question
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:39:45 GMT

Hi.  We'll be in Utah soon.  My husband and I have our own
skis, but we need to rent equipment for my six year old
daughter.  

Can someone suggest a reasonably priced rental place that
rents kid's equipment?  I'd rather it not be at one of the ski
resorts because we plan to ski at several, and I don't want to
have to go back to any particular place the day before we leave.

We'll be staying near the entrance to Little Cottonwood canyon.

Thanks.
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From: madrid@wam.umd.edu (Gonzalo De Cea-Naharro Romero)
Subject: France: La Plagne
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:12:03 GMT

Hello, I am going to La Plagne from 1-10 of January.  I need some advice on
what kind of clothing to wear.  Also I would like to know how is the station.
Will there be plenty of snow?  And any other suggestion.
Thanks,
Gonzalo de Cea-Naharro			madrid@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: SKI PANTS?? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Jeffrey Holdgate Associates
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:07:31 +0000


In article <1992Dec16.200938.11040@news.columbia.edu> aak4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu writes:

>
>
>Hi...
>   I have a question that I was wondering if someone could answer.
>I have a pair of warmup pants that I have from playing ice hcokey.  I was> curious if these same pants could be used for skiing.  Are they water proof,> will they last...etc...
>   The pants are 100% nylon,by the way.  Any answers would really be> appreciated.
> Thanks a lot...
>   
>        Allan
>
>
Most Ski gear has anti slide properties - If you fall, It's good to stop
as soon as possible. WIth ordinary waterproof clothing, Its possible to 
zoom off on an unplanned trip down the mountain, especially if your 
skis have come off. It's a sport  similar to the 'poubelle' (Garbage
bag) races conducted whilst full of alcoholic beverages - and also somewhat 
risky. Buy some proper pants and save your neck !
J.
From: zeke@reed.edu (Zeke Koch)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Snowboarders Suck!!!!
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:15:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec11.181509.14195
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

mf3s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Martin David Frankel) writes:
>I've got a serious question that is only remotely related to this thread.
>
>I'm a skiier but not a snowboarder, and I'm curious:

Try boaring, you'll never go back ;-)

>
>Are the skills involved with snowboarding closer to those of skiing, or
>of skateboarding?  And are most snowboarders ex-skiiers or
>ex-skateboarders?

I'm not really sure I'm the best one to answer this (I was never a
skateboarder) but the skill for snowboarding don't seem very connected
with skiing.  I think it also depends a lot on how you board.  A nice
alpine (racing for the skiers) board with hardshell bindings
(skiboots) feels fairly simmilar to skiing.  Still, it's really a
different sport.  People who waterski say that it's a lot more like
that. 

But I must agree that I think that a lot of the animosity towards
boarders seems to revolve around the "skater subculture."  I think as
we see more adults.  People seem to have a hard time dealing with
rowdy kids.  I think as we see more adults boarding peoples
conceptions will change.  At Apache/Sunrise (in Arizona) most of the
ski-instructers board and so people see us differently.

To quote a friend of mine (a 35 year old ski instructer who's skied
for 20 years) "Why did I ever get on those two mistakes?" 

Zeke





-- 
                           zeke@reed.edu 
"NeXT has made it possible for Tiny Tim to over-extend himself and buy
a Ferrari for the price of a Hyundai and now Tiny Tim is pissed because
the gas station attendant won't sell him gas for 3 cents a gallon."
From: daw@kepler.unh.edu (David A White)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Mt. Snow
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:18:17 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

Hi,

       I was wondering if anyone has any info about Mount Snow.
       How are the conditions?

				       -- Dave

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer)
Subject: 20" of the light dry soft stuff!
Reply-To: bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:28:08 GMT

Spent the weekend trying to trash 20" of Alta Powder(tm) with my
Atomic Powder Magics (thanx Jen!!!).  It'll take at least 4 days for
the local culture to wipe that smile off my face, tho maybe less since
it's the Santa season.

Lots of Powder Magics, Miller Softs, a new Miller powder board that's
wider than the Soft but less radical than the PM, & even saw a
Dynamic-labeled wide ski.  Saw no Haute Routes, tho...maybe wasn't
looking close enough!

Cheers...while it lasts!
-- 
<> Bob `Bear' Geer <>   bgeer@beorn.sim.es.com     (this *should* work)   <>
<>     cola-zombie <>   speaking only for myself, one of my many tricks   <>
<> Salt Lake City, <>    "We must strive to be more than we are, Lal."    <>
<>          Ootah  <>           -- Cmdr. Data, learning schmaltz          <>
From: maxda@rocketer.ism.isc.com (Max D.)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Rossi 4SK or 7SK?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:42:17 GMT
Organization: SunSoft, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: maxda@rocketer.ism.isc.com (Max D.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocketer.west.sun.com

Which one is better for an advanced intermediate going for speed and steep?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: heff@apollo.hp.com (Jeff Oesterle)
Subject: Re: questions about N.E. usa skiing
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:54:41 GMT
Reply-To: heff@apollo.hp.com (Jeff Oesterle)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories

> I'm trying to decide between the following Mountains for a weeks worth of 
> skiing, and would appreciate any suggestions, experiences, gripes, etc.
>
> sugarbush, vt
> smugglers notch, vt
> loon mtn. nh
> sugarloaf mn.

I've only been to Loon and Sugarloaf, and Sugarloaf is _by_far_ the better
mountain, esp. if you're a more advanced skiier.  I end up at Loon a lot 
because it's an easy 2 hr drive from Boston, but then again, so do a lot of
Bostonians - it gets nastily crowded on a lot of weekends.  Not bad during
the week, tho.  Only been to the Loaf once, so I can't give you a good 
perspective on crowding, but it's a big mountain.  Much bigger than Loon,
with much more in the way of steep slopes.  Neither of these VT resorts get
much press, which in my book is a good thing.  In N.E. this generally means
a less commercialized, more natural and friendly skiing experience.  



Jeff Oesterle

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Re: >Snowboarders Suck
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:57:18 GMT

leo@wk69.nas.nasa.gov (Leo Dagum) writes:
>I can only hope this is true.  My experience though is simply that snowb
arders
>pick different lines from what I pick as a skier.  So if I get to a run 
hat's
>been heavily snowboarded I'm forced onto lines that don't work very well
for me.
>I don't consider it a matter of snowboarders "doing damage" to the run, 
ust 
>that the two sports are sufficiently different as to be incompatible in 
his 
>sense.  Mark, you appear to be someone who's experienced in both sports.
 If
>you can tell me that you pick the same line down a steep mogul run on a 
>snowboard as you do on skis, then I'll be content to wait for the day wh
n
>I won't be able to tell whether snowboarders or skiers created the mogul

>I'm on.

>Leo Dagum
 
Fair question Leo and one that made me think.  The answer is yes
but with some qualifications.  My goal has been to board bumps
as well as I can ski them so I strive to board the same lines.
Now given the situation where I was the only one forming mogals
on a paticular hill,would I form them the same boarding as skiing?
I think the answer is no but I'm not sure what the difference
would be.

Does anyone know if the challenger lift is open at the Jane yet?
Mark Wallace,

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: kng@pt.com (Ken Gravenstede)
Subject: Taos Information
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:33:49 GMT

I'm planning a trip to Taos in March and would like any recommendations
for lodging that one might have.  Any other info would be equally well
received.

Thanks,

Ken
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