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From: gfoster@charm.isi.edu (Glen A. Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: SCO Xenix terminal communications program
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:23:56 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: USC/ISI, Marina del Rey, CA


Hi, I am posting this for a friend without net access, it would be
most helpful if any responses are mailed directly to him at
0005017740@mcimail.com (his name is John McLynn).

He is looking for a dial-out communications program for SCO. He would
like it to be "PC-like," comparable to the programs with which he is
familiar on PCs, e.g. Procomm, Crosstalk, etc. The program has to be
able to emulate a vt100 terminal to a fairly high degree of accuracy.

He knows about tip and kermit. Freeware, shareware, and commercial
programs are all OK.

Thanks in advance,
Glen Foster
From: Rick_Turnbull@mindlink.bc.ca (Rick Turnbull)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: SYSERR ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:11:39 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I am something of a xenix neophyte.  I look after a Xenix application that is a
real-time data collection   application running under SCO Xenix 2.3.2.  The
main terminal screen is running as a process associated with Alt-F5.  Normally,
the AltF1 key is available for system administration.  The other day the
machine was in a state where it had not started the real-time data collection
and the Alt-f1 screen had a message:
      SYSERR: tran_committed: LG_EN_TEMP_TRANH expected
What the heck does this mean?  I looked in the xenix documentation and couldn't
find anything about this.
Rick_Turnbull@mindlink.bc.ca

 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.sysv286
From: bduncan@ve3ied.UUCP (Bill Duncan)
Subject: Re: Missing /dev/root; system still boots!
Organization: TFMCS
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 22:25:00 GMT
Keywords: 286 XENIX

In article <Br9LFG.HK1@belay> buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick) writes:
>In article <1992Jul04.013448.17633@Celestial.COM> bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
>>In <1992Jun30.132636.1309@actcon.UUCP> kearns@actcon.UUCP (Steve Kearns) writes:
>>
>>:A friend of mine is running SCO 286 XENIX on an IBM PS/2 model 50 (MCA).
>>:She recently ran out of space in her root partition (she has two partitions,
>>:/ and /usr; both of which are on the same physical drive).  Not knowing
>>:what to do, she turned the machine off.  I was able to get the system 
>>:running again by talking her through removing some very large, bogus files in
>>:/dev (using find /dev -type f -exec rm {} \;).  The files were all in the 
>>:form of misspelled floppy device names.
>
>>This is a very common problem on systems.  In fact, my nightly
>>maintenance programs automatically report any files found in the
>>/dev directory.
>>
>>.....
>
>Gee, on my system, find says /dev/null is a "type f" file.. 
>(ie: Regular file)... and so it would be removed by the
>above construct..  not a good idea.... since it gets used
>a lot, and you really wouldn't want ordinary data put there,
>now would you?
>==========================================================
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>Belay Enterprises Inc.     | Internet: buickp@cuug.ab.ca
>Calgary, Alberta, Canada   | UUCP:...!uunet!keyword!calgary!pixel!belay!buick

What system are *you* running?  I've never seen /dev/null anything but a
character special device.
From: orman@iastate.edu (David L Orman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Using RS232 w/ HW handshaking
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:22:52 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

Using XENIX.2.3.2

I need to connect to a several manufacturing machines that are all RS232
capible. The Probelm is that I cant seem to make Hardware handshaking
work.

I really dont have that much experience with the gettydefs and alll the
other stuff that seems to be involved.

We are using a Hostess card (4 port) on a 386sx (16 mhz).

I can get some datas out but I always loss some and I'm pretty sure
that it has something to do wioth the hardware handshaking stuff.

I case you think it might be a cable probelm, everything works fine if I
boot under DOS and use Procomm, but I really dont like having to do that
all the time.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu (John S. O'Conner)
Subject: 9600 Zoom modems
Organization: Brigham Young University, Utah
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 07:20:18 GMT


Thanks to all those who responded to my posts about uucp.  That's working
fine now.  It's really amazing what you find out when you ask a single
question.

Now for the next one...
I'm able to communicate on Zoom modems at 2400 baud, but I'd like to use
them at 9600 baud of course.  I've downloaded the SLS named "unx220" from
SCO's BBS, but it just doesn't seem to work.  This file (unx220) is supposed
to be an updated dialer for HA96V.  Since Zoom is "100% compatible" with 
Hayes V modems, it should work.

I've done the obvious--edited the Dialers file, the Systems file, and even
the /etc/ttys file--but I continue to get EXECDIAL LOCAL FAILURE errors. 
When I give up and switch back to a 2400 bps configuration, all goes well.
Any suggestions???

Thanks again,
John
ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu
From: rick@jpusa1.chi.il.us (Rick Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Kernel error: iaddress greater than 2^24
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:40:41 GMT
Organization: JPUSA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	Has anyone encountered the above message? We are running
SCO Xenix 2.3.3 on a 386-40 with a Conner 200 meg IDE drive. (8 megs
of ram). This message appeared while restoring a tape to the drive.
	Also, the drive is set up with 1 filesystem and a 15 meg swap.
	Thanks for any help.

					-rick
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: jsb@panix.com (J. S. B'ach)
Subject: Re: Compiler
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:10:46 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In article <1992Jul16.120712.13418@krk.fi> cristo@krk.fi (Kristo Airinen) writes:
)	Hi everybody..
)
)	I was just wandering (I have a Xenix/386 and I'm about to 
)	install it real soon) if I really need to buy the Develop-
)	ment Kit if I want to compile something?
)
)	Is some PD/Shareware compiler as good (if it even works?) 
)	as the Development Kit.. 

As I posted before, the compiler in the development kit dumps core for me all the
time.  Anyone know where I can get the xenix port of gcc?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: david@dynamix.com (David L. Jarvis)
Subject: more cron problems
Organization:  SOFTWARE / DYNAMIX
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 8:59:00 EDT
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A client of mine has been experiencing something very strange, and I think
it's another cron bug.  Their nightly backup starts running at arbitrary
times, but only about once every 30-60 days.  That is, their nightly backup
*is* running each night, but about every 30-60 days the backup kicks in at
odd times in the morning, like now for instance!  The time is correct in
BIOS/ROM, and Xenix [2.3.4] reports the time correctly.  I have done the
obvious, checked the crontab file, checked to make sure some user wasn't
executing the backup script, reloaded cron from disk, tested cron with
other jobs, seen my psychiatrist :-)  
What bothers me is we have hundreds of clients that have cron doing nightly
backups, but only one exhibits (or, at least, only one *reports* to us)
this problem.  However, something that strikes me funny is that these are
the only one of our clients that tends to leave the system running for very
extended periods of time.  Say, oh, 30-60 days :-)   
Curiouser and curiouser ... this starts to sound like the problem that Bill
Davidsen reported (that we were able to duplicate here as well) ...
could they be one in the same bug?  How about one of you SCO guys giving us
some info?
Any ideas anyone?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: mjn@pseudo.uucp (Murray Nesbitt)
Subject: ftp site ``anomaly''?
Organization: Private system in Toronto, ON
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:38:53 GMT


I've been hearing of an ftp site named ``anomaly'' lately, which
apparently carries files of interest to SCO Xenix users.

Can someone let me know the full ftp name for this site?  I couldn't
find it in my list of ftp sites...

Thanks,

Murray
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: hollywd@zelator.in-berlin.de (Stuart Hollywood)
Subject: 7/8 Bit?
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:31:12 GMT


Hey,
 
here one of these stupid questions of a beginner:
  
Could anybody explain to me what the main difference between 7 and 8
bit systems are. Is it only relevant for the terminals connected to
the system?
	
Into what kind of trouble am I running when I'm trying to run a 7
bit programme on a 8 bit machine and vice versa?
	 
stuart
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: jpretty@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jon Prettyman)
Subject: Kernel Page Fault Xenix 2.3.4
Summary: TRAP E Kernel page fault halts system
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:02:33 GMT

Since upgrading my 2.3.2 Xenix box to Xenix 2.3.4, I have been plauged by
the error message:
	TRAP 0000000E in SYSTEM, error code=00000000
	   eax=00000000,  ebx=00000000,  ecx=3FFF2000,  edx=0000000E
	   esi=0604B000,  edi=002B208C,  ebp=060005D0,  fl=00010246
	   uds=00270018,  es=00000018,  fs=0005003F,  gs=0000003F, tr=00000100
	   pc=00000020:0000339E,  ksp=060005AC

	kernel: PANIC: non-recoverable kernel page fault

This causes my box to shutdown.  It has happened once a week for the past
three weeks.  Is this a hardware problem?  I am running on a Dell 325
with two 300MB drives.  One of the drives was recently replaced due to 
a drive failure.

Has anyone else been seeing this, or do I have some type of hardware
problem?

Jon

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley)
Subject: Re: transfer protocols
Organization: Unix in NYC
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:24:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.215629.19762@hamblin.math.byu.edu> ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu (John S. O'Conner) writes:

>Does anyone know of a file transfer protocol that will allow me to 
>transfer a batch of files during a single session.  I would hate to call
>uucp twelve times to send 12 different files.  

Your uucp only transfers one file, and then quits? I've never heard of
an implementation that did that. The uucp programs are suppose to read
the queued jobs and send them all in sequence, on one single connection.

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From: steve@crash.cts.com (Steve Morrison)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: CDROM interfaces????
Date: 26 Jul 92 00:11:44 GMT
Reply-To: steve@crash.cts.com (Steve Morrison)
Distribution: na
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

I'm looking to add a CDROM to my computer w/ Xenix OS 2.2(something).

Can the low priced XT/AT adapters be used?  I assume that if I go the
scsi route I will have better luck, but I would like to stay non-scsi 
until I can replace my mfm drives with ST506 interfaces with a big fast
scsi-2 screamer.

Also, are there SCO or public domain device drivers?

I'll summarize if much interest is shown.

-steve 

steve@crash.cts.com     in sunny San Diego
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe)
Subject: symbolic math under xenix -- ???
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:31:43 GMT

Does anyone know anything about symbolic math programs which run under sco 
xenix?  I believe REDUCE is available, but that MATHEMATICA and MAPLE are not.
My conclusion is that in order to get MATHEMATICA or MAPLE, the best that I can
do is buy another 386 machine, run dos it, and install the symbolic math
program on top of that.  Is this insane?  Has anyone had any experience with
any symbolic math program under xenix?

David Jaffe (jaffe@hoss.unl.edu)
University of Nebraska -- Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,biz.sco.general
From: cliffb@cjbsys.bdb.com (cliff bedore)
Subject: Re: perl and groff binaries for SCO.
Organization: BDB Systems
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 12:50:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.165625.4239@Celestial.COM> bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
>In <9207202129.aa09972@gate.demon.co.uk> ronald@gate.demon.co.uk (Ronald Khoo) writes:
>
>.....
>:I'm afraid that I won't be in England much longer, and in any case I
>:do not have regular access to a SCO machine anymore, so I'm afraid I can't
>:oblige.
>
>I for one, would like to express my appreciation for the work
>you've done in the past porting gcc and other software to the SCO
>Xenix and UNIX platforms.
>
>The SCO community will miss you.  Good luck in your new job.
>
>Bill

HERE! HERE!  I have several of the programs and very much appreciate the work
involved.

Cliff
Cliffb@isavax.isa.com (work)
Cliffb@cjbsys.bdb.com (home)
From: harvey@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Betty Harvey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Networking & SCO ODT UNIX problem
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:44:50 GMT
Reply-To: harvey@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Betty Harvey)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


     I am having a problem with SCO ODT networking and was
wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem and if
there is a solution.  I cannot connect to another machine on the
Internet using telnet or ftp.  I cannot even ping the machine. 
However, if I go to the host machine and ping the client machine
the connection is established which sends the ethernet address
of the host back to the client.  

     I talked with one of our networking specialists and he
thought that it might be a problem with the computers (486/33)
being too fast in sending the ethernet addresses.  We published
our machines ethernet addresses permanently using the arp
command.   Everything worked fine and I assumed that the speed
was indeed the problem.

     However, one of our contractors in St. Louis tried to
connect to our host and had exactly the same problem.  I pinged
his machine and he connected and logged on without any further
problem.  I don't think speed is the problem now because it's a
long way between St. Louis and Washington, D.C.  

     Has anyone else experienced this problem and if you have do
you know of a solution to the problem?  I have TCP/IP and NFS
running.  I have uninstalled Lan Manager.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


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From: alan@ahmcs.mq.com (Alan Mintz)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: dirent and strerror problems in SCO XENIX 2.3?
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:40:31 GMT
Organization: Micro-Quick Systems, Inc.

I have encountered a couple of oddities while building Taylor-uucp for
SCO XENIX 2.3.

For some reason, in the routines that scan directories for work, the
d_name field in dirent structures seems to start 2 bytes too far into
the structure, chopping off the first two chars of the filename. I 
have a hunch that it has to do with the d_off field being of the
wrong type (off_t, which is a long, instead of short).

For example:

************************************************
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <dirent.h>

main()
{
 DIR *topdir;
 struct dirent *entry;
 int i;

 topdir=opendir((char *) ".");

 for(i=1;i<5;i++)
 {
  entry=readdir(topdir);
  printf("Inode: %11d  Offset: %11d  RecLen: %11d  Name: %s\n",
   entry->d_ino, entry->d_off, entry->d_reclen, entry->d_name);
 }
}
************************************************

yields chopped off filenames, whereas :

************************************************

#include <stdio.h>

typedef struct
	{
	int	dd_fd;			/* file descriptor */
	int	dd_loc;			/* offset in block */
	int	dd_size;		/* amount of valid data */
	char	*dd_buf;		/* directory block */
	}	DIR;			/* stream data from opendir() */

struct dirent {
	long		d_ino;		/* inode number of entry */
	unsigned short	d_off;		/* offset of disk direntory entry */
	unsigned short	d_reclen;	/* length of this record */
	char		d_name[1];	/* name of file */
};

main()
{
 DIR *topdir;
 struct dirent *entry;
 int i;

 topdir=opendir((char *) ".");

 for(i=1;i<5;i++)
 {
  entry=readdir(topdir);
  printf("Inode: %11d  Offset: %11d  RecLen: %11d  Name: %s\n",
   entry->d_ino, entry->d_off, entry->d_reclen, entry->d_name);
 }
}
************************************************

seems to work correctly. What gives here? Is sys/dirent.h wrong?


Also, has anyone had trouble with the strerror macro in string.h under
gcc? I get unexplainable "parse errors" when using it, yet, in looking
at the output of cpp, all looks normal. What am I missing?
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From: dlane@infopac.pacinfo.bc.ca (Don Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Re: uucp batch transfers
Date: 22 Jul 92 08:40:31 GMT
Organization: Pacific Information Systems

It may seem a silly suggestion, but why don't you just write a sh
program that will copy all the revelant files into tmp, do a tar, and
then uucp the tar file...

	eg: copy  /usr/file/abc /tmp
	    copy  /usr/file/def /tmp
	    copy  /usr/file/ghi /tmp
	    sleep 10
	    cd /tmp
	    tar -cfv sendfile.tar *
	    uucp /tmp/sendfile.tar receivesite\!~/sendfile.tar

and the receiving site could do a reverse of the shell script
It's not elegant, or fancy, it just uses the basics, and it could all be
done as a cron job.
That's cron ... not con :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.lang.c++
From: muslim@nik.nalchik.su (Shortan Muslim)
Subject: Re: C++ Compiler
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 16:46:15 GMT
Organization: The RELCOM

thssmdt@iitmax.iit.edu (Mark D. Turner) writes:
> I am looking for a C++ compiler that will run on Xenix.  Does anyone
> know of any sources?
Yeah, I've heard that it's the GNU C++ Compiler under Xenix 386, yep ?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: uucp batch transfers
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 03:08:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.082451.18159@hamblin.math.byu.edu> ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu (John S. O'Conner) writes:
>
>I have about a dozen files in many different directories that need to
>be transferred daily to a remote site.  I know how to send a single file
>with uucp, but...QUESTION:  is there a way to use uucp to transfer a batch
>of files in one dialup session?
>
>If uucp is incapable of this, is there some other piece of software that
>will allow me to submit a list of files to be transferred?
>
>Thanks,
>John
>ocon@bert.cs.byu.edu

Same way you send 1.  RTFM uucp(C).

uucp file1 file2 .... site!directory

of course I would get slick and compress them first, and then feed them
back into uncompress at the destination.
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From: mas@csa.bu.edu (Mark A. Semich)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: gcc 2.2.2?
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:00:53 GMT
Distribution: Milky Way
Organization: The Internet


Does anyone know what the status is with gcc 2.2.2 and Xenix?  I've
been trying to get it to compile, but things don't look good.

Any pointers?


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,biz.sco.general
From: dold@unislc.uucp (Clarence Dold)
Subject: Re: Is a second tape device possible?
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:09:56 GMT

From article <1992Jul27.213209.12200@ksgbbs.harvard.edu> timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu (Tim Buehrer - 625-6829) writes:

> We are trying to set up a second tape drive on our xenix box.  mkdev tape
> insists on just overwriting rct0 and nrct0 with the new settings.  Is there
> a way to create a second tape device like rct1 and nrct1?

If the second tape is a SCSI device, 3.2.4 warns that the cartridge tape
must be the default drive in order to work properly, and gives you some
/dev/ entries to use.
If both tapes are non-SCSI, I thought I remembered it muttering something
about "do you wish to make this the default device".

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From: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Office 3.0 Comments
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:33:28 GMT
Reply-To: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP )
Organization: CCS Enterprises, Inc. - Easton, MD

In article <1326@pacsoft.com> mike@pacsoft.com (Mike Stefanik) writes:
>: We use it every day, and have many sites of WordPerfect Office 3.0 in
>: the field and have not seen a single core dump due to WPO 3.0.. What
>: were you doing to create this situation.
>
>The version that I was using (an evaluation copy from WP) would repeatedly
>dump core inside the calendar and mail.  I'm happy that it's working well
>for you, but it certainly left a bad taste in my mouth.

Maybe you ought to give it another try, and talk with WP Support, they
are very helpful if something is setup wrong.

>For a non-computer-literate office, it is a nightmare of servers and tapes
>and mysterious install procedures.  Would you be brave enough to hand over
>a tape and a copy of the install procedure to the office manager and say
>"install this"?  I think not.  Of course, this unfortunately applies to
>many UNIX software packages, not just WPO.

I agree that most UNIX software is not real "install friendly", but since
we are a reseller organization, we solve this problem by bundling 
installation services with all of our software and this way the customer
never sees a problem.  And the FIRST time you install just about anything
it proves to be problems.  But after a few installs, it becomes very
easy to look for problem areas.

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