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From: ljz57640@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (l.j.z. )
Subject: Re: Worf in ST6?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 05:08:52 GMT

Eileen.Heady@dartmouth.edu (Eileen Heady) writes:

>The Klingon who defends Kirk and McCoy in the Undiscovered Country
>looks like (I'm almost sure it was him)  Michael Dorn...is he supposed
>to be a relative of Worf's or did they just use Dorn for the part
>because it was easier to make him up?

That Klingon was, indeed, played by Dorn.  He was an ancestor of the
current TNG Worf... his grandfather or great-grandfather, I think.
If you listen carefully, they mention his name in ST6 as "Counselor
Worf."  

20 hours to DS9! [for me at least :)]
--L.



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From: mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz)
Subject: Re: star trek tng list of lis
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 01:52:27 GMT

In <1992Dec26.3244.5788@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>OK, just wondering.  Also, even though you post things on the 1st and
>16th of each month, does that mean it is UPDATED every time?  It's a bit
>confusing because your List of Lists just put down "TNG List of Lists --
>December 16th version" or something like that.  It's just I don't want
>to waste my time if nothing new is added.

December 1st version is the latest. There is no December 16th
version. ;) Also, the Lol will be updated on a monthly basis now,
due to lack of time. :(

>Good!  I look forward to the next posting of the List of Lists.  Some of
>my friends on this private BBS don't appreciate me re-posting your list
>of lists for them but at least I do!  :-)

Thanks.

>Agreed!  I think I caught your name on the Fidonet BLUEWAVE conference
>and I tried to leave you mail but you didn't respond.  Anyways, I get
>usenet feed through a Usenet Gateway on a PCBoard run BBS called Canada
>Remote Systems.  I get usenet mail like Fidonet mail and thus I have to
>use BW.

I mostly lurk there. ;)
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: st:tng seasons 1-3 in ste
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 26 Dec 92 22:05:47 EST

 -=> Vidiot babbled to All and look what he said! <=-

 Vi> Also, why should they be remixed for mono?  Hell, ST:TNG is aired on
 Vi> mono stations all over the country.  They get the same stereo feed as
 Vi> everyone else, the left and right channel summed into the mono channel
 Vi> for the uplink. 

This reply is a bit off topic, but you seemed to know a lot so...

I just saw some satelite feed post in which they stated the stereo
signal would be something like 8.5 Right and 8.2 Left for DS9.  I assume
that means there'll be more volume right than left.  Is this true?
Because if so, I've noted that practically every stereo station has a
slightly larger right stereo feed than a left.  Why is this?


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Subject: Re: More mnemonics
From: morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan)
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:13:42 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Alberta Research Council

Stupid thread!  Stupid!  But...

In article <domalley.724435913@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie
(Slartibartfast            (alias Dan writes:
>In <1gjf2jINN1f1@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> mjb@mulka (Michael Beeching)
writes:
>
>>I heard this resistor code mnemonic somewhere
>
>>Bad Booze Rots Our Young Guts, But Vodka Goes Well.
>
>We had:
>
>Bad Boys Rave Over Young Girls But Veto Getting Wed...

The politically correct version is:
bad boys ruin our yound grass but violets grow wild.

I liked the one for the Mohs' hardness scale.  Notice that the first two
letters match:

Tall gyroscopes can fly apart, orbiting quickly to complete disintegration

talc gypsum calcite fluorite apatite orthoclase quartz topaz corundum diamond.

I'm not a geologist, so save your flames on spelling and other errors, because,
I don't care!
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: DIRRe: Sex, the Final Frontier?
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:04:49 GMT

rsr4936@cc.utah.edu (Reay, Robert S.) writes:


>{>First of all Terry we are not Trekkies we are Trekers there is a differance. 
>{>Trekkie are the ones that would rip any cast members clothing off as a suviner

>No, Trekkies are the ones that demand to be called Trekkers.


	Okay, here's a question, what's the difference between a Trekkie and
a Trekker? (I think it's in the FAQ's, but I remember think that I didn't
really like the definition there and just want to open the question up a 
bit. If y'all think it's a stupid topic, just flame away. I can take it! :)

			CtB



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From: rll1@kepler.unh.edu (Robert L Lamothe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Lwaxana - Who plays her?
Date: 28 Dec 1992 21:44:30 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <9212211822.AA24704@enet-gw.pa.dec.com> d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  21-Dec-1992 1322) writes:
>rkh@ucs.att.com (Bob Halloran) writes:
>
>> It is a well-known piece of Trek trivia that Majel Barrett Roddenbury
>> is the one performer who has appeared in ALL of the Trek venues
>
>What about Mark Lenard, whose role as Sarek spans TOS, TAS (voice in
>"Yesteryear"), the films and TNG?
>

	Lets not forget Deforest Kelley, Leonard Nimoy and James Doohan.

							-Bob
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From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG Program Guide 6.01 update delayed at ftp site
Organization: CS
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 22:40:59 GMT

In article <4670@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>
>
>For some reason, e-mail to the ftp site was not delivered.  After three days
>it was returned.  So, I tried again yesterday.

Hmmm weird.  They just showed up a few minutes ago, so I will put 'em
together sometime...  (Note the specific lack of any specific time reference,
to thus not give the impression that the guide will be available via ftp
at any specific time :).

Maybe over a specific soon-to-arrive weekend, but no specific promises.
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From: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: SILVER MOVIE INGOTS
Date: 2 Jan 93 04:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Just thought I would pass this along for those interested in such things:

I assume due to my subscription for the Columbia House set of TOS tapes, 
I received a brochure in the mail for a set of 10 Silver Ingots that
reproduce Trek Movie Posters.  There are the 6 "Now Showing" Posters for 
all movies thus far and 4 more ingots, reproducing what are called 
"Teaser" posters.  You get them one at a time, like a Book/Tape club and
each ingot comes with a miniature poster of the next ingot you're going 
to recieve next month.  The off I got included the first poster(STVI 
teaser - the one with the Giant Klingon face at the bottom, overprinted 
with the "Stardate" of 12-13-91(Which, BTW was originally printed as 
12-6-91, but they decided to delay a week so as not to have to compete 
with(I think) the release of HOOK.  I know this is true, because I've 
got a GIF of the very original poster, with 12-6 on it).  After you
receive 3 ingots, they promise to send you a "FREE" velvet-like case to 
put them all in for protection and each apparently comes in some sort 
of plastic case, called a Coin-Safe.

Here's what I'd like to know from anyone knowlegable in such things:
These ingots are described as Sterling Silver(.999) containing 500 
grains each.  The company wants a total of $34/ingot and what I want to 
know is, are they making all the investment profit for the next 10 years 
off of me?  IOW, what is the going rate for the average .999 500 grain 
sterling silver ingot.  That is, what would a dealer give me for one 
today.  Not a really rare one, just your average 500 grain silver ingot?  
Anybody know?

The other question is, has anyone else received this offer who is *NOT* 
a Columbia House Tape subscriber?  They claim that they are limiting the 
marketing of these things and I'd like to find out if that's true.

Finally, anyone who did not get this offer, but would like contact info, 
send me your address and I'll mail you a photocopy.  No, I won't post it 
on the Net, because I don't want to broadcast the offer, but I *will* 
send it to anyone who is actually considering buying them.  Please be 
considerate of my wallet and don't just ask for a copy 'cause you wanna 
look at the pretty pictures!  Remember that each one I send out will cost 
me about 35 cents, and I get nothing out of it.  
Take care, and TIA for any info you have.
LLAP


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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG Seasons 1-3 in stereo?
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:39:19 GMT

In article <4603@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <BzCv77.HvJ@newcastle.ac.uk> C.J.Coulson@newcastle.ac.uk (C.J. Coulson) writes:
><The BBC decided to save some money by only buying the mono versions of TNG, 
><rather than the Stereo version which had also been offered for sale. 
><
><So there you go, that's why the BBC, Sky One (and presumably ZDF) had mono sound.
><However all the pre-recorded video tapes I've seen in the UK have been Stereo.
>
>Here is the really stupid part.  Since ST:TNG is produced in stereo, the master
>tapes are in stereo.  It is actually more work to produce a MONO copy than it
>does to produce a stereo copy.  Gotta spend the time to mix the two tracks
>into a single audio source and place that back on the copy on both tracks.

Since ST:TNG is produced in stereo, the master audio source (be it analog tapes,
digital audio on disk, or wax Edison cylinders) is undoubtedly much more
than 2 track stereo.  Mixing down to mono would be slightly less work than
mixing to stereo (ignoring whatever effort it takes to do the surround),
and conceivably could be done simultaneously, depending on the engineering
facilities involved...
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From: rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin)
Subject: Re: Matter of Life and Death!
Organization: School of Statistics, University of Minnesota
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:34:12 GMT

In article <3942@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
|> 
|> Hello all:
|> 
|> I'm really sorry to intrude on you like this with a silly question,
|> but a friend of mine has been insisting that a prominent member of
|> the old Star Trek cast died about a month ago, and that in fact it
|> was Shatner!  I could not believe him, and I still don't, given that
|> much more noise would have been made had he died.  But the guy seemed
|> just darn certain and sure of himself and he was willing to put twenty
|> dollars on the line behind his claim.  Can anyone settle this dispute
|> between us, one way or the other and once and for all?
|> 
|> Thanks.

You have to prove someone is alive before you can collect on a bet?
Giggle.  Take the money, have him prove that Shatner has kicked the
oxygen habit before you agree he won.  After all, it should be very
easy for someone to track down an obit or other notification, especially
in the trade rags.   At least that should be easier than tracking down
his current appearances and providing proof that he was really there...

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Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:13130 rec.arts.startrek.fandom:1919 rec.collecting:9767
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 13:18:06 EST
From: AMIGA <344RPBT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom,rec.collecting
Subject: for sale star trek books and mags

   I have these star trek Books for sale or trade
               Please make offers
COVER     ISBN            TITLE                   AUTHOR

1.25 345-24435-4  Star Trek Log Four            Alan Dean Foster
1.25 553-02245-Q  Spock Must Die!               James Blish
 .95 345-02697-7  The Making of Star Trek   Whitfield&Roddenberry
1.50 345-23401-4  The Making of Star Trek        "       "
1.50 345-23402-2  The Trouble with tribbles     David Gerrold
1.50 345-23403-0  The World of Star Trek        David Gerrold
1.50 345-24655-1  Star Trek Log Six             Alan Dean Foster
1.75 451-08030-0  The Best of Trek              Irwin & Love
1.95 345-24691-8  The Making of Star Trek Whitfield & Roddenberry
13.95671-68440-X  the Star Trek Compendium      Allan Asherman
2.50 441-78477-1  A Star Trek Catalog           Gerry Turnbull
2.50 671-83088-0  ST the Motion Picture         Gene Roddenberry
2.95 553-24675-5  The Starless World            Gordon Eklund
2.95 671-47388-3  The Final Reflection #16      John M. Ford
2.95 671-83089-9  ST Motion Picture Photostory  Richard Anobile
3.50 671-50054-6  The Vulcan Academy Murders#20 Jean Lorrah
3.50 671-52488-7  Killing Time #24              Della Van Hise
3.50 671-60373-6  Dwellers in the Crucible #25 MargaretWanderBonanno
3.95 671-62581-0  Enterpise the First Adventure Vonda McIntyre
3.95 671-66201-5  BattleStations! #31           Diane Carey
9.95 671-79145-1  the Star Trek Compendium      Allan Asherman
HC      bookclub  The Wounded Sky               Dinae Duane
HC      bookclub  Yesterday's son               A.C.Crispin
HC 15783bookclub  ST the lost years             J.M.Dillard
HC 2877 Bookclub  STIII searchforspockstorybook L. Weinberg

 I am also looking for many so if you have some books
       you would like to get rid of give me a yell.
I have the following magazines forsale

Prevue feb/apr 87 interview with Leonard Nimoy
MAD   june 87     star trek IV
enterprise incidents special collectors edition #2
enterprise incidents july 84
enterprise incidents mar84  #15
enterprise incidents jan 85
enterprise incidents apr 84
starlog #18 dec   star trek monster make-up
starlog #10 dec   star trek report
starlog #134 sept Denise Crosby
starlog #14 june  Star trek cancellation comedy
starlog #138 jan
fantastic films #39 may 1984      sneak preview STIII
fantastic films #30 august 1982   behind the scenes STII
fantastic films #40 july 1984     interview Leonard Nimoy

I am looking for Star Trek Books and Mags in trade
or will sell these outright.
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Matter of Life and Death!
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:44:21 GMT

In article <3942@creatures.cs.vt.edu> sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>
>Hello all:
>
>I'm really sorry to intrude on you like this with a silly question,
>but a friend of mine has been insisting that a prominent member of
>the old Star Trek cast died about a month ago, and that in fact it
>was Shatner!  I could not believe him, and I still don't, given that
>much more noise would have been made had he died.  But the guy seemed
>just darn certain and sure of himself and he was willing to put twenty
>dollars on the line behind his claim.  Can anyone settle this dispute
>between us, one way or the other and once and for all?

Yes, William T. Shatner was fatally killed while shooting "Rescue: 911"
last month when he stepped in front of a speeding car driven by personal
injury attorney Jackson Roykirk, who was following the ambulance being
filmed for the show.  Family and friends expressed some disappointment
at his death, but Star Trek executive producer Gene Roddenberry could not
be reached for comment.

Sounds like you owe your friend $20, or maybe a copy of STVI:TUC would
suffice.
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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: Galactic Map - "Measure of a Man"
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 23:47:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In "The Measure of a Man", a galactic chart is visible on one of
the walls of the hearing chamber, and it's partly visible in a B&W
photograph printed on p77 of the TNG Companion. I'm sure I've
seen this chart before... but does anyone know where it might be
found?

Also, in a related note, are there any magazines which print
copies of Okudagrams? (Yes, I know about the Starlog Tech
Journal).

Joshua
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From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: DS9: Avery Brooks has attitude.
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 30 Dec 1992 16:55 EST  

In article <1hr753INNjc9@gap.caltech.edu>, tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes...
>Followups set to r.a.s.misc.
> 
>kuvamp@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> 
>>This was on the AP Newsnet this morning, thought it might be of interest:
> 

Not *nearly* as interesting as your attack on his character ...

> 
>>Gee, isn't it great that Paramount picks actors to whom this is just another
>>job, and who have no idea what this role means to people?  
> 
>Yes.  
> 

Me too... might bring a *freshness* to the series that would be threatened 
by bringing in an actor steeped in the Trek `mystique'.

>What it means to *you* has no bearing on *how he should do his job*.
>He is an actor.  Thus, he will act in the role.  Conventions are a whole 
>different ballgame, and not related to how he'll do on the show.
> 
>Try not to let your own obsessions get in the way of understanding what an 
>acting role means.  Brooks isn't in this to sign autographs for you.
> 

.. and, in a less caustic vein, I suspect that if DS9/DSN engenders the 
same kind of fan response that Trek has, Brooks may indeed get caught up in 
its mystique ... remember, *we've* had 25 years to take Trek into our 
`family' ... DS9/DSN hasn't even aired its first episode ... it will either 
develop its own mystique (which likely will envelope Brooks as well) or it 
won't. Brooks' pre-air comments are irrelevant... he will be assimilated if 
the DS9 collective survives. 

Oh, and on another front ... doesn't the CBS show `Space Rangers' make the 
name `Deep Space Nine' sound a bit more intellectual than it did at first ? 
I don't judge a show by it's name, but this one sure tempted me to break 
that rule. I guess it could have been worse, though ... it could have been
`Captain XXXXXX *and* the Space Rangers'. :-)

-- Stephen

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Humans -- 

	Beings stupid enough to create their own monsters, and then 
	curse their luck when they run into them.
From: andersoncore@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Data's Power Supply?
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:20:56 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

QUESTION.....

I was watching "Hero Worship" (all right, I had nothing better to do) and I 
started wondering where does Data get his power supply?  Does he have to 
re-charge?  If anyone knows (or cares), please e-mail me a response.

Thanks
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: Broadcast windows for ST:TNG and ST:DS9
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 26 Dec 92 22:05:46 EST

  -=> Vidiot babbled to All and look what he said! <=-

 Vi> The broadcast windows for TNG and DS9 are totally different.  This
 Vi> window includes the initial airing of an episode and the replay of the
 Vi> same episode. For TNG, it is a two-week window, that includes the
 Vi> 7-10pm Sunday time slot. The Sunday time slot is the same weekend as
 Vi> the update. 

What the heck's a "window"?  Two-week window for TNG???  I don't get
it...


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From: mcelroy@bu.edu (Carl Mackin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Imzadi
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:59:05 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

One quick question for those who know:







Spoiler


















If Troi is "converted" by the Romulans...
How will this fit in with the storyline of "IMZADI"?
(... the last paragraph ... "Welcome home, Imzadi.")

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