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From: mkent@netcom.com (Marty Kent)
Subject: Re: Nudity in California (was: Re: NUDE SLUGS make appearance in bio class)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:05:09 GMT

In article <edKR027b2evh01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.131706.1793@unixland.natick.ma.us> dza@unixland.natick.ma.us (David Archer) writes:
>>
>>My real question, though, concerns the legality of Nudity in 
>>California.  Is it *really* legal to walk around buck naked on
>>city streets, college campuses, etc?  If it is, then why the
>>comments about "got away with", or "weren't apprehended"?  And I
>>wonder why people haven't been going naked all along?

>It is not legal to be naked in California.  It is illegal just like
>most other places.  However, there are some privately owned beaches
>The deal with the naked guy is that he is in Berkeley, which is a radical
>college town. I am not sure how they "get away with it".
>
>I know if you did it here in Sunnyvale you'd be nake behind bars!

This is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. California State law makes NO provision against
public nudity; it just isn't a common practice. What's proscribed by the
law is "indecent" exposure, which is to behave in a "lewd and lascivious"
manner while naked.  Lewdness is a rather vague term; basically it refers
to actions done with the intent to provoke sexual arousal, _whatever_
_that_means_. 

Of course, since people aren't used to public nudity, and police are 
pretty much like people only maybe less so, the police are subject to 
interpret even "simple" nudity as in itself lewd, and haul your ass into
jail for same.  This has happened repeatedly to both Andy Martinez and
to myself and other members of the Xplicit Players, here in Berkeley. 
But the cases keep being thrown out of court, because the D.A. has a bit
clearer sense of the law than the cops on the street, and a much clearer
sense of it than various USENET types who shoot off their mouths without 
doing any legal research.

Various localities are, however, empowered to make nudity illegal locally.
For instance, the State Parks have their own set of laws, under which they've
banned nudity. Go figure...

 


-- 
Marty Kent 				mkent@netcom.com
Sixth Sense R & D			510 848 6221
2500 Durant St. #405
Berkeley Ca 94704

Kent's Heuristic: Look for it first where you'd most like to find it.
"You're soaking in it..." - Madge
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy,rec.nude
From: skip@rosalyn.stat.uga.edu (Skip Gundlach)
Subject: Re: Nudity in California (was: Re: NUDE SLUGS make appearance in bio class)
Organization: UGA Statistics Department
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:52:59 GMT

>
[various prior discussions of nudity legality deleted]

>This is ABSOLUTELY WRONG. California State law makes NO provision against
>public nudity; it just isn't a common practice. What's proscribed by the
>law is "indecent" exposure, which is to behave in a "lewd and lascivious"
>manner while naked.  Lewdness is a rather vague term; basically it refers
>to actions done with the intent to provoke sexual arousal, _whatever_
>_that_means_. 
>
>Of course, since people aren't used to public nudity, and police are 
>pretty much like people only maybe less so, the police are subject to 
>interpret even "simple" nudity as in itself lewd, and haul your ass into
>jail for same.  This has happened repeatedly to both Andy Martinez and
>to myself and other members of the Xplicit Players, here in Berkeley. 
>But the cases keep being thrown out of court, because the D.A. has a bit
>clearer sense of the law than the cops on the street, and a much clearer
>sense of it than various USENET types who shoot off their mouths without 
>doing any legal research.
>
>Various localities are, however, empowered to make nudity illegal locally.
>For instance, the State Parks have their own set of laws, under which they've
>banned nudity. Go figure...
>
Some of you older folx (presuming the majority of readers/posters to
be students) may recall the "scandal" of the Rochester (NY) Two:  Two
Rochester women decided to test the theory that men had an unfair
advantage at the beach (scenic Lake Ontario), and went topless.  Of
course, they were promptly arrested for indecency, and tried.  My
recollection is that they lost, but appealed, and had the verdict
overturned.  That may not be the proper sequence, but I am certain
that in the end they were vindicated under the first amendment...


>
>
>-- 
>Marty Kent 				mkent@netcom.com
>Sixth Sense R & D			510 848 6221
>2500 Durant St. #405
>Berkeley Ca 94704
>
>Kent's Heuristic: Look for it first where you'd most like to find it.
>"You're soaking in it..." - Madge


-- 
Skip Gundlach .nosig (Sorry, that's the best I could do on short
notice, and I'm not even an electrician...) 


Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy,rec.nude
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: The naked truth about flying (was Re: Nudity in California)
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
	<edKR027b2evh01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
	<ZOWIE.92Dec15014115@daedalus.stanford.edu>
	<1992Dec17.045418.28313@unixland.natick.ma.us>
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:16:09

In article <foo> dza@unixland.natick.ma.us (David Archer) writes:
   zowie (me!) writes:
   >my pal who got arrested -- and let off the hook -- for public lewdness
   >after he streaked a United Airlines flight from L.A. to S.F.!  Cecil's
   >First Rule of Streaking:  `Make Sure There's An Exit')

   What did he do?  Run naked through the plane while they were flying?

To put it simply, yes.

He normally reads this group, and so would probably tell you himself --
but he's Back East (in Colorado or something :) for a few weeks just
now.

He was travelling with the Leland Stanford Jr.  University Marching Band, 
to some game down in Los Angeles.  The field show was great, the band was 
rockin', and -oh, yeah- I guess we won the game, too.  On the
way back, people were, as you can imagine, somewhat jubilant.  Cecil
said he was talking to the guy next to him about streaking in general,
and then the conversation got around to aircraft and wouldn't it be
funny if someone streaked an airplane, then wouldn't it by funny if
someone streaked *THIS* airplane, and, the next thing he knew, he was
in the back restroom taking off his clothes!

Got lots of applause upon emerging, clothed once again, from the
front restroom.  The rest is history :-D

BTW, watch for us (the LSJUMB) on the televised Blockbuster Bowl in 
Miami on the 1st.  Not that anyone's planning on streaking on 
LIVE NATIONAL TV or anything -- but you never know...
--
DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!
From: rafatm@sage.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
Subject: Nude Olympics at Purdue
Keywords: Held Last Night
Date: 10 Dec 92 20:43:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

Last night, around 12:00 pm, a nude olympics was held at Purdue U. A bunch of
guys got together and decided it was cold enough (it snowed last night) for
the event to be held. The news spread like wildfire. In a couple of hours, 
around 1500 people showed up to watch the event.

  The thing took place at the!courtyard of one of the men`s dorms. Around
20 people ventured out for the event. They basicaly just stripped down and
ran laps in the snow as onlookers cheered and pelted them with snowballs.
This year only one female participated. Because of this the nude olympics
were labeled a flop. It is probable that a second one will occur next year.
Who said nothing ever happens at Purdue? 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
From: eng10082@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG KWONG PEI)
Subject: test2
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:02:13 GMT


still testing....

Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
From: eng10082@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG KWONG PEI)
Subject: test
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:29:01 GMT


testing.....

Xref: sparky alt.fan.naked-guy:147 rec.nude:5937
From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy,rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudity in California (was: Re: NUDE SLUGS make appearance in bio class)
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:30:53 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec14.131706.1793@unixland.natick.ma.us> dza@unixland.natick.ma.us (David Archer) writes:
>
>My real question, though, concerns the legality of Nudity in 
>California.  Is it *really* legal to walk around buck naked on
>city streets, college campuses, etc?  If it is, then why the
>comments about "got away with", or "weren't apprehended"?  And I
>wonder why people haven't been going naked all along?
>
>-- 
>----
>\  /  David Archer
> \/         dza@unixland.natick.ma.us


It is not legal to be naked in California.  It is illegal just like
most other places.  However, there are some privately owned beaches
that people go to and are naked there.  These nude beaches are not
hard to find or anything.  In fact, you can buy books with maps as
to how to find them.

The deal with the naked guy is that he is in Berkeley, which is a radical
college town. I am not sure how they "get away with it".

I know if you did it here in Sunnyvale you'd be nake behind bars!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
From: apb.4845@nd.edu (voluptua love)
Subject: exposure
Summary: down mammary lane
Keywords: mammals
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: alt.fan.naked-guy
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:18:12 GMT

my mom says theres a great way to attack those laws.  see, you wear a daring 
bathing suit that exposes most of one of your *modified sweat glands*.  some 
diligent los angeles cop *busts* you.  you then show the cop *blush* that 
you have *two* nipples on that gland, and you have not exposed any *skin* 
below the topmost part of the bottom one.

try it!

love,

voluptua
 
------------------------------------------
voluptua love
University of Notre Dame
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
From: eng10082@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG KWONG PEI)
Subject: test
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:44:45 GMT

still testing

Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy,rec.nude
From: dza@unixland.natick.ma.us (David Archer)
Subject: Re: Nudity in California (was: Re: NUDE SLUGS make appearance in bio class)
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:54:18 GMT

In article <ZOWIE.92Dec15014115@daedalus.stanford.edu> zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest) writes:
>my pal who got arrested -- and let off the hook -- for public lewdness
>after he streaked a United Airlines flight from L.A. to S.F.!  Cecil's
>First Rule of Streaking:  `Make Sure There's An Exit')

What did he do?  Run naked through the plane while they were flying?
Take off his clothes after take-off and stay naked for the rest of the
flight?  Enquiring minds want to know :-)

-- 
----
\  /  David Archer
 \/         dza@unixland.natick.ma.us
From: myke@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Michael Dautermann)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
Subject: Where's the Naked Guy?
Followup-To: alt.fan.naked-guy
Date: 17 Dec 1992 10:16:05 -0500
Organization: We're from the government, ma'am
Distribution: na
Reply-To: myke@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu
Summary: where
Keywords: naked, dude


All this talk about protests and topless revolts and all that...
  
I haven't heard too much about Berkeley's famous undergraduate?
  
Where has the Naked Guy gone?  Was his suspension lifted?
Or has he gone under cover (cough)...


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From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
Subject: Opps
Date: 14 Dec 1992 02:23:13 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


did i double post?  gee how could that have happened?  Sorry and ignore
the 1st one or the second one but not both, that would be rude and disrectful.

--david
The only truely consistent people are dead.


Xref: sparky alt.fan.naked-guy:158 rec.nude:5970
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy,rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudity in California (was: Re: NUDE SLUGS make appearance in bio class)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 12:38:38 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

mkent@netcom.com (Marty Kent) writes:
>Various localities are, however, empowered to make nudity illegal locally.
>For instance, the State Parks have their own set of laws, under which they've
>banned nudity. Go figure...

I can't figure it out. It's like banning noses. Noses don't *do*
anything, they just exist, they just are.

-- 
bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) This week's usenet malapropism: 
their(pronoun)=plural possesive; "They drove their cars to usenix."
there(misc.)=to or at a place; "Use the terminal over there."
they're=contraction of 'they are'; "They're shutting down the system now."
From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
Subject: NUDE SLUGS make appearance in bio class
Date: 13 Dec 1992 10:35:05 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


This just in:

Word has it that the other day in an upper division bio class about five
students decided to wish one of their friends a happy birthday by walking
into the middle of class and singing to her.  The Catch?

It seems this coed group of 5 was buck naked with the words "HO HO HO" written
on their backs and "Happy Birthday" on their front.  The birthday girl, who was
dark skinned (indian or asian i think) apparently turned apple red and 
left the class for 5 or so minutes.  She did manage to return but couldn't
keep a straight face the rest of class.

I'm now thinking about changing my major.  The most that happens in Econ classes is people calling Classroom Unit 2 (450 Capacity) and asking for Mike Hunt
during class (yes it happened and the prof had no clue what was going on)

--david

Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
From: eng10520@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG CHENG ENG)
Subject: testing
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:20:59 GMT


testing.....1....2.....3
From: giamomj@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Mike G.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
Subject: Re: Where's the Naked Guy?
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:59:09 GMT
Organization: Drexel University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2

Subject: Where's the Naked Guy?
From: Michael Dautermann, myke@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu
In article <1gq5jlINNc0c@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Michael Dautermann,
myke@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu writes:
>
>All this talk about protests and topless revolts and all that...
>  
>I haven't heard too much about Berkeley's famous undergraduate?
>  
>Where has the Naked Guy gone?  Was his suspension lifted?
>Or has he gone under cover (cough)...

Mike - 

From what I've read locally in the Phila. papers, the Berkeley Naked Guy
is now wearing
a skimpy paisley colored bandanna to cover his genital area...I was
hoping I could find
out a few things about all of this myself. I was wondering things like
"does he get
erections at inopportune times in front of people, is he clean, friendly,
weird, sexy,
hung, etc..." Any news???
From: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.naked-guy
Subject: Re: Nudity in California (was: Re: NUDE SLUGS make appearance in bio class)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:44:44 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de

In article <1992Dec14.131706.1793@unixland.natick.ma.us>  
dza@unixland.natick.ma.us (David Archer) writes:
> My real question, though, concerns the legality of Nudity in 
> California.  Is it *really* legal to walk around buck naked on
> city streets, college campuses, etc?  If it is, then why the
> comments about "got away with", or "weren't apprehended"?  And I
> wonder why people haven't been going naked all along?

Well of course you have to wear shoes and a shirt if you enter a  
restaurant (say Mc Donald's).

BTW, from my visit to California this year, I do not even remember having  
seen topless women on the beaches, but, OK, these were rather small  
beaches. How is the situation in USA? In Germany this is no big deal.

Carsten
Newsgroups: alt.fan.gooley,talk.bizarre,alt.sex.carasso
Subject: Re: SWM, 31, seeks SF near Boulder, Colorado
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:27:29 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Dec10.183626.28600@netcom.com> gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.121730.16872@leela.cs.orst.edu> tankgirl@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Josette Torres) writes:
>>(entire desperate attempt to score fabulous net.babes mercifully deleted)
>>
>>just before i broke up with that famous net.personality Xibo, i was referred
>>to one Markian Gooley as a possible replacement.  
>>
>>-Tank Girl
>>"i declined, of course, for CARASSO"
>
>I got the impression at the AngstCon that Xibo didn't like me much.
>
>I don't know whether this is confirmation or contradiction.


You should have told him a skeleton joke.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.fan.gooley,talk.bizarre,alt.sex.carasso
From: tankgirl@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Josette Torres)
Subject: Re: SWM, 31, seeks SF near Boulder, Colorado
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 04:22:41 GMT

carasso@Turing.ORG (Roger Carasso) writes:
>tankgirl@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Josette Torres) writes:
>>just before i broke up with that famous net.personality Xibo, 
>				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>				  Pizza-face is neither famous
>				  or a personality, and his
>				  only interesting trait is his
>				  homo friend Kibo who's claim to fame
>				  is a smile that makes you think
>				  his shiting in his pants
>	
>STRIKE ONE!!!

you forgot Xibo's Big Dick(tm).  that was interesting.

>>i was referred to one Markian Gooley as a possible replacement.  

>STRIKE TWO!!!

like i'm gonna go out to c0l0rad0 for a b0ink.  i'm boycotting the state, 
anyhow.

-Tank Girl
"wah, i didn't get no strike three.  i am not worthy"

Newsgroups: alt.fan.gooley,talk.bizarre,alt.sex.carasso
From: tankgirl@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Josette Torres)
Subject: SWM, 24, seeks SF near t00son, ariz0na
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 04:19:14 GMT

gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:

>I got the impression at the AngstCon that Xibo didn't like me much.

well, i got the impression before the AngstCon that Xibo liked me much.  it was
a wrong assumption, yes.

>I don't know whether this is confirmation or contradiction.

hm.  neither do i.  maybe Carasso can tell us.  he does know all (or at least
a lot).

>Mark., it wasn't *that* desperate-sounding, was it?

-Tank Girl
"well, it was LONG..."
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
From: carlos@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Miguel Borges)
Subject: Re: Hello out there?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:33:24 GMT

jfarrell@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (James Farrell) writes:
>Hello, does anyone read this group? I only started getting this group
>today. I REQUESTED it from my postmaster. Here it is, but here noone
>else is. What's up?

What's this newsgroup about anyway?  What/who is eddings?

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Memorial University of Newfoundland, St. John's, NF. Canada []*[] <-cheap flag
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
From: ignem@bluemoon.use.com (Aaron M Petry)
Subject: Re: Historical Similarities
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 13:43:34 EST

fannicm@wkuvx1.bitnet (Master Hawk) writes:

> In article <Dec09.170326.69806@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, schwarte@CS.ColoStat
> > 
> > In article <1992Dec8.162242.4455@wkuvx1.bitnet>, fannicm@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mas
> > |>    Has anyone noticed the incredible similarities between the Elinium an
> > |> the Tamuli and western history of earth?  Just a for instance, the Tamul
> > |> Empire's method of governing was to take over and then let the countries
> > |> govern themselves just as long as they followed all of the rules.  Well 
> > |> did the Roman republic...I dunno, it just seems a little fishy to me...
> > |> 
> 
> >Not at all. It's a fairly efficient form of government. You don't have to wo
> >hard to keep the people subjected, since they're being so nice, and doing it
> >you...
> 
>    Sure, you and I know it is efficient, but as far as I can remember, that
> technique was only used once in history, even after people knew about it.
> 
>    If that isn't enough for you, how about those Cynriks or whatever they
> were (the ones that the Younger Gods of Styricum cursed by flying an eagle
> around their borders).  They bear more than a remarkable resemblence to the
> Spartans, and that surely was not an efficient or whatever form of
> government.
    That form of government was also used by Philip of Macadon and 
Alexander the Great.  
                                Aaron Petry

 This is from
     ignem@bluemoon.use.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
From: jfarrell@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (James Farrell)
Subject: Domes of Fire
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:45:02 GMT

OK, there ARE people out there.

So what did you people think of _Domes of Fire_. I got to do something
to get some posts here. I'm very new, and finding almost NO posts.
(OK, exams are a good excuse)

Anyways,



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
From: jfarrell@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (James Farrell)
Subject: Re: Hello out there?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:04:29 GMT

In article <carlos.724602804@morgan> carlos@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Miguel Borges) writes:
>
>What's this newsgroup about anyway?  What/who is eddings?

Hello fellow MUN person,
alt.fan.eddings is a newsgroup (DUH!) that concerns itself with
discussions about the author David Eddings. He writes fantasy material.
(ie. Magic, swords, etc.) I had to request to get this from the
postmaster, and it turns out that noone is discussing the stuff that
they're supposed to be discussing. I thought that there would be at
least a FEW people talking about his new book, but I guess not!

A die-hard Eddings fan

>
>-- 
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>C. Miguel Borges        and his EVIL TWIN BROTHER (tm)        Carlos M. Borges
>carlos@morgan.ucs.mun.ca <-------------------------> carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca
>Memorial University of Newfoundland, St. John's, NF. Canada []*[] <-cheap flag


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