HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mkg0891@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Murali Krishnan)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil
Reply-To: krishnan@ta1.cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:44:23 GMT


I get the feeling that the pro-s.c.tamil group and the anti-s.c.tamil group
are saying different things.

The anti-s.c.tamil group says that since Tamil culture is a subset of Indian
culture, discussions should remain on s.c.indian.  For example:

kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
>If a seperate tamil news group is
>established, this will lead to the formation of other news groups based on
>languages and then places and finally religions(already established) as well.
>Its better to discuss about their languages in their own country news group.


However, the pro-s.c.tamil group is saying something else.  They are saying
that Tamil culture is not a subset of Indian culture, but rather a larger set
which intersects Indian culture, but also intersects Sri Lankan culture, 
Malaysian culture, African culture, Singaporian culture, etc.


>I agree with N.S.Raja and Shyamala. Let non-tamil speaking people also
>know about tamil. There is no harm in discussing issues on tamil culture in
>soc.culture.indian or soc.culture.sri-lankan or soc.culture.malaysian or
                    ^^                        ^^                       ^^
>soc.culture.singapore 
[It should be "and" not "or".]

Should all the people who are interested in Tamil culture be required to 
subscribe to all the s.c.* newsgroups on which Tamil discussions take place.

Or should those people on the s.c.* newsgroups who are interested Tamil also
subscribe to a s.c.tamil?
-- 
  Murali Krishnan          |	University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
  krishnan@cs.uiuc.edu     |	"The most exciting place in Central Illinois"
From: rxh9306@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Part 6 : Who Created the Tigers (LTTE
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:57:41 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology



Who Created the Tigers (LTTE) ?                        (Part 6)


Ekasath Bhikkhu Peramuna and others like him did !


Here is how:

On 5 June 1956, the date the "Sinhala only" bill was introduced by
Bandaranaike in the House, as an act of protest Chelvanayakam (a
Tamil leader of the FP party) led a party of 300 Tamil volunteers
and staged a sit-down "Satyagraha" (peaceful protest), of the kind
popularized by the Mahatma Gandhi in the days of the indian freedom
struggle......

On the same day, the Ekasth Bhikkhu Peramuna (a Buddhist Priest)
had organized a march to the House to get the "reasonable use of
Tamil" clause in the bill removed.  The Bhikkhu Peramuna procession
converged on the House, followed by thousands of supporters of
"Sinhala only", and when they found the Tamils staging the
Satyagraha they set upon and beat them.

On that day, the police were all around but allowed the (Tamil)
Satyagrahis to be beaten up (by the Sinhala mob).  The Tamil
protesters never imagined the bhikkhu holy men would be a party to
violence.......  From that moment, every Tamil seen on the roads of
Colombo was attacked.....  Sinhalese hooligans took charge of the
situation and went on a rampage of arson and looting of Tamil shops
and homes.......  The violence and rioting spread to Gal Oya and
Ampari, where, under an irrigation and resettlement scheme,
thousands of Sinhalese had been resettled in clusters around thinly
distributed Tamil villages in the eastern province.  In the race
riot in 1956 150 people died.  This included many Tamil women and
children.


( Sri Lanka, The National Question and the Tamil Liberation Struggle
by Sachi Ponnambalam )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: punati@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (yashodhar.punati)
Subject: Transit visas at Heathrow Airport
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:20:43 GMT

Fellow Netters:

I would like to hear about the experiences of folks
who had 5 or 6 hours of layover in Heathrow Airport (London),
and tried to get British Transit Visas at the airport. 

My trip to India is coming up soon, and this info will
definitely help  me in being prepared for the situation.

Thanks,

Yashodhar

PS: Do not hit 'r' or 'R'. Either post to the net or 
     email to yp@alux2.att.com .
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14789 soc.culture.bangladesh:2526 soc.culture.pakistan:6714
From: dipen@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov ( Dipen Bhattacharya)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: III: Conflict: Causes
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:09:32 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta) writes:

>To point out to Dipen Bhattacharya and others:

>It is not a matter of `Hindus' making a concession to minorities:
>(in the matter of helping disadvantaged groups catch up with the
>general population). Its a matter of social justice, and following
>the provisions of the Indian Constitution. In particular, Clause 4
>of Article 15 authorizes the state to make `special provision for the
>advancement of any socially and educationally backward classes of
>citizen or for the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled tribes' and
>specifically in the matter of services clause 4 of article 16
>exhorts the State to `make any provision for the reservation
>of appointments to posts in favor of any backward class of
>citizens which, in the opinion of the state, is not adequately
>represented in the services under the state.'

 	I agree. It is a matter of social justice and not
        "concession" granted by the majority. I used the word
        in a off-handed way just to get a point across. The idea
        of social justice may be farthest from the minds of the
        fundamentalist agitators (or any authority with power).
        Hence, the use of the word "concession" which addresses
        directly to their pride (assuming that there is some).

        And thanks for posting the excellent article by Iqbal
        Ansari on the state of Indian Muslims. I only hope the
        saner segment of the greater Indian society will take
        heed to his observations.

>-arun gupta

	Regards,
	Dipen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sumedha@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Sonali P Talwalkar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: ******** Vocal Recital by ARATI ANKALIKAR-TIKEKAR in Milwaukee
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:08:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Apr9.170846.20159
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: sumedha@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

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                     India Music Society, Milwaukee 
                                
                                presents

                              VOCAL recital   

                                    by  

                        A R A T I   A N K A L I K A R     
                        - - - - -   - - - - - - - - -     
                              

                    Date    :  Friday, April 10th, 1992 
                    Time    :  8:00 pm 
                    Place   :  North Shore Presbyterian Church  
                               4048 N. Bartlett Ave.   
                                   
                    Tickets :  General  ... $12 
                               Members  ... $10
                               Students ... $6 
           

             For ticket reservations and more information, 
             please call : Saroj Kulkarni -- (414)351-5619
             or send me e-mail -- sumedha@csd4.csd.uwm.edu                  



"A musical talent seldom seen among artists of her age" was the way Arati 
Ankalikar was described at the time she won the first place award in a national
competition for Indian Classical Music in 1982. Since then, Arati has become 
one of the most sought after artists by the organizers of classical music 
programs and festivals all over India. 

With her fertile imagination, and disciplined and rigorous practice, Arati has
absorbed the richness of the three gharanas (Agra, Jaipur, and Gwalior) of 
singing khayals and has evolved an appealing style of her own. She is also 
impressive in rendering the light classical forms such as bhajan and thumri.             
  
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From: avnaik@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Ashish V Naik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info on Virginia Commonwealth University
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:23:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: avnaik@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU



All ye omniscient sci'ers:
	
	A cousin of mine wanted some information about a university 
 called Virginia Commonwealth University. We would appreciate any
 information about the university, more specifically we are looking 
 answers to the following questions:

 1) How is the university ? How is the Quantitative Methods department ?
 2) Is there a desi association at this place ? if so, who shd be 
    contacted ?
 3) How high is the cost of living at this place ?
 4) Any other information which might be helpful........

 Any information/pointers wud be greatly appreciated,

 Ciao,

 Ashish
 avnaik@cs.buffalo.edu
	
 
-- 
"He who laughs, lasts."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: THE INDIA GROWTH FUND  ACCOUNTING CHANGE
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:01:41 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
               Copyright (c) 1992 PR Newswire Association, Inc.
                                  PR Newswire

                             April  3, 1992, Friday

THE INDIA GROWTH FUND  ACCOUNTING CHANGE

NEW YORK, April 3

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The  India Growth Fund  Inc. (NYSE: IGF) a closed-end diversified management
investment company seeking long-term capital appreciation through investment
primarily in equity securities of Indian companies, today reported that on March
1, 1992, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) announced a new liberalized exchange
rate management system which made the Indian rupee partially convertible.  In
addition, the RBI announced that all permitted capital transactions would have
to use the free market determined rupee--U.S. dollar rate.  Pursuant to this
policy, the fund will now have to purchase U.S. dollars from the free market for
either a dividend payment or a capital liquidation.

   Accordingly, the fund announced today that it will be changing the exchange
rate used for the translation of Indian rupees into U.S. dollars.  Effective as
of April 1, 1992, instead of using the official Indian rupee rate to value the
fund in U.S. dollars, the fund will now be using the free market spot rate as
announced by the Foreign Exchange Dealers' Association of India in calculating
the fund's weekly net asset value.  On Wednesday, April 1, 1992 the official
Indian rupee rate was 25.83 and the market rate was 31.17 to the U.S. dollar.
The result of the change will cause a devaluation of approximately 20.67 percent
of the fund's net asset value effective on that date. CONTACT: Bruce D. Katz,
assistant treasurer of the  India Growth Fund,  212-713-2928, or Vincent L.
Pereira of Mitchell Hutchins Asset Management, 212-713-3041
============================================================================
Sylvia D. D'Cruz                                
Mead Data Central                               Systems & Product Technology
Bldg. VI, 9595 Springboro Pike                          udcrusd@meaddata.com
Miamisburg, Ohio 45342                                        (513) 865-6800   
                                               
============================================================================
From: alagappan@raaji.enet.dec.com (KANDHA ALAGAPPAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: CONSULTANTS WANTED/5 YRS EXP/SPONSORSHIP/SYSTEMS EXPERIENCE
Keywords: CONSULTANTS
	Consultants with 5 years or more SYSTEM LEVEL EXPERIENCE
	in the following areas are wanted to work for an New England based
	consulting firm.  H-1B visas and Green Card will  be sponsored for
	all those who are selected.  If you have an F-1
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:05:21 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard, MA.


	Networks	Novell netware, TCP/IP, SNMP protocols
	Operating sys	Device drivers, Compilers development, kernel
	Windows		MS-windows, X-windows, Motif

	UNIX, C, C++

	Please send your resume in the following format as a reply. Include
	the area of your expertise, salary expectations, availability, visa 
	status, and references in your covering letter.  If by US mail
	please send your covering letter and resume (laser copy) to,
	Kevin Turner, ASI, 30 RBP, Suite 505, Medford, MA 02115. Please
	mention that you are responding to this note in this conference. 

				Name
				address
				phone number

SUMMARY:	5 TO 7 LINES OF SUMMARY OF EXPERIENCE INCLUDING THE TOTAL
		YEARS OF EXPERIENCE

SYSTEMS		HARDWARE/SOFTWARE/PACKAGES/LANGUAGES

EXPERIENCE	LATEST TO THE PREVIOUS (TECHNICAL AS MUCH AS YOU CAN)

EDUCATION	HIGHEST TO LOWEST (NO NEED FOR COURSEWORK)

PERSONAL	SEX/AGE/WILLINGNESS TO RELOCATE
From: prastogi@netcom.com (Parag Rastogi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: How can NorthWest avoid mistreatment to Indians ! Some suggestions..
Keywords: Northwest, Indians
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:16:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I had been reading a lot of postings on Northwest treatment with Indians.

I found the problem to be a good subject for analysis :

Northwest airlines or any other airlines are taking away the passport of
Indian citizens irrespective of their visa categories ie. PRV, Work Visas,
Student Visas, visitor visas etc. because they want to protect their ass
from the US immigration authorities. So they have to find a way or the 
other to prevent illegal immigrants from southeast asia. On the other side,
Indians and other nationalities are finding the handling of their passports
or any other treatment offered by these airlines as a bitter pill.

As an educated Indian professional, I have sympathies with the above
airline organisations. I am willing to cooperate with their manner of 
handling the situation. 
These could be some suggestions :

1) Ask them the statistics of the cases of illegal immigration. Use the data
to see which group of visas are more likely to cause the problem.

2) Request the Airline authorities to request notarized photocopy of those
passengers while issuing them the tickets/entry to the departure lounge from
India or any other countries. 

3) Request the airlines to not segregate the passengers based on their
nationality.

I think we should help the authorites in solving the problem, which will
not only give a great impression of the Indian community abroad, but
will enhance the positive attitude of all the Indians suffering from this.

In some airlines, the Indians are forced to be seated together. They give
simple reasons that they are helping the Indian passengers who have problems
in communicating in English. But the real reason as somebody on the net 
mentioned that Indians have bad odour and lot of other International passengers
complain about sitting next to an Indian. Shouldn't the request be made to
the airlines to provide small cologne bottles to all the passengers. This
way the problem can be also solved.

We should remember that if we take these problems as challenges and try to
solve them, the world could become much better without any conflict

 
-- 
When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is
not far away.  It is time to go elsewhere.  The best thing about space
travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere.
		-- Robert Heinlein
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From: mchari@yoko.rutgers.edu (Murali Chari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES.........
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:34:29 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON - I DON`T SEE ANY GUJJU JOKES OR SIMILAR 

CONTRIBUTIONS - JUST SOME STUPID ARGUMENT ABOUT NATONALITY.

WHY IS IT THAT SOME DOLTS NEVER GET IT RIGHT ??? YOU GET INTO S.C.I. ;

START LOOKING THROUGH - GET TO GUJJU JOKES THINKING ABOUT THE HUMOUR 

THEY MIGHT CONTAIN - AND THEN YOU SEE THIS FUCKED UP ARGUMENT .....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rahul@sdd.hp.com (Rahul Bhargava (Temp))
Subject: Why Ask visa-related questions on S.C.I ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:06:03 GMT


Well lot of people complain that SCI is not the right forum to raise     
issues like these. But then where do you go. Some folks have pointed
out that an immigration lawyer is the person to consult. I don't
agree as a lawyer would tell you, at least initially, what your ears
want to hear. It is thru S.C.I only one can relate to persons who have
undergone similar situations and can therefore offer genuine insights.

Having answered all those potential flamers, I am gonna pose few questions
for the wise guys. This is for the sake of a friend of mine. She does not
have an e-mail account, so e-mail your responses to me directly.

Ques A) Approximately how long would H1 -> F1 coversion take, considering
        that the person has adequate funds to support himself in US ?

Ques B) Can one attend school while the F1 is being processed ?

Ques C) In case the F1 is processed earlier than the termination of the work
        contract with the employer here, can the person continue to work 
        for some period of time ?

Ques D) How feasible is it for a person, who was on H1 here, to go back to
        India along with necessary documents for RAship and try for F1 visa
        there ? Can the American consulate deny F1 even if funds are well
        documented ?

Ques E) How would this H1 -> F1 conversion affect eventual Green Card
        application process ?

Thanks in advance for taking your time off.

-Rahul.
From: anantk@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Colormap of India india.gif
Date: 16 Apr 1992 18:21:43 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

rajiv@hilltop.mitre.org (Rajiv Kohli) writes:


>	If anyone needs a color map of India (india.gif), send me email
>	requesting the said and I will ftp it to u. A while
>	ago I remember somebody posting for it

>----------------------------- Signature --------------------------
>Rajiv Kohli

why don't you just uuencode it and post it on the net. i would like 
a copy (in case you do not post it).
-anant
From: sukhatme@usc.edu (Gaurav Sukhatme)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Men
Followup-To: Shalini Govil's posting
Date: 12 Apr 1992 13:22:50 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Bravo Shalini !
But what say you to a little moderation - you have after all come out 
against group - bashing ( of any sort ).
Are you really convinced that ALL Indian men think of women as 
goddesses or whores ? 
Does this generalize to ALL men too ( or is it just Indian men ) ?
I am all for the live and let live motto...
but I find it being violated by such a sweeping generalization.

							Gaurav
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ST402804@brownvm.brown.edu (S.L.)
Subject: Re: Oscar - Rohini Hattangadi
Organization: Brown University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:55:44 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule)
Subject: Oscar - Rohini Hattangadi
Keywords: Oscar
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:28:10 GMT


(deleted)

Ajit Tulpule.

-----------------------------------------------
        Ajit Tulpule

email : atulpule@business.carleton.ca
-----------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As a matter of fact, Hattangadi did not receive the Oscar. The only other
Indian (other than Ray) to receive an Oscar ever is Bhanu Athaiya for costume
design for Gandhi.


                                  S.L.





Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chansze@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (CHAN  Sze Keong)
Subject: Re: Oscar - Rohini Hattangadi
Keywords: Oscar
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:38:28 GMT

In article <atulpule.702678490@cunews> atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:
>
>
>I think that Rohini Hattangadi had got an Oscar for best supporting
>actress. Someone (I don't know who had got an Oscar for costume
>design for the movie Gandhi.).
>
>
	I give up. Rohini Hattangadi DID NOT win oscar. She won
the British academy award (brit. equivalent to oscar). 

>Ajit Tulpule.

srini
email:srini@comm.toronto.edu
From: bsingh@nic.cerf.net (Bhupinder Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Quebec H1 visa instructions needed
Keywords: help
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:34:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CERFnet;  La Jolla, CA

Could some kind soul who has saved the "get an H-1 visa at Quebec City in
10 easy steps" posting please email me a copy.

thanks


Bhupinder Singh		
Internet  - bsingh@cerf.net
MaBellnet - (818) 568-6107
From: raja@chroma.cps.msu.edu (Narayan S. Raja)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Wanted: ``Software from India'' info
Date: 5 Apr 92 22:50:39 GMT
Reply-To: raja@cps.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University, CPS Department


I *MIGHT* join a particular computer company
here in a few months, and I'm trying to tell
them that they should consider software 
products/services from India.  

A few questions, which I hope some netters can 
help me with:


1. Can you name some "big" American companies
    which have set up software operations in India?  
    Where are they located in India and what do 
    they do?

2. What "catchy" facts can you think of about
    Indian software products or services (e.g. the
    hand-written output generating program that was
    described in ``Time'' last year, CMC's contract
    to develop the London Underground's train scheduling
    software...)

3. Can you mention some magazine/newspaper articles, TV
    programs, or any other references in the U.S. media
    to the software industry in India?

4. How do software services/development costs in India
    compare with those in the U.S.?

5. Which Indian software companies have branches/agents
    in the U.S.?

6. Is there any organization (either in the U.S. or in
    India) that can provide such info, or help with 
    software products/services from India?

I'd be glad to summarize replies.


Thank you in advance,


Narayan Sriranga Raja.
From: scoter@ntmtv.UUCP (Patrick Thompson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hindi language tutor wanted in South Bay Area
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:38:21 GMT


Subject: Hindi language tutor wanted in South Bay Area


I am looking for someone in the South S.F. Bay Area to help
me to learn Hindi. I am motivated by my recent marriage to a 
girl in Lucknow, U.P.

Alternatively, if anyone knows of any courses in Hindi, this 
would be most appreciated as well. I have been unable to find 
any courses on my own, (except for the, extremely expensive, 
Berlitz school.)


Patrick Thompson
Los Gatos, California
ntmtv!scoter@ames.arc.nasa.gov
415-940-2597 (work/msg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian