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From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: The Flat Earth Society???
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:09:06 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Aug25.113121.14999@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>A friend tells me of a rumour that there exists an organization known as The
>Flat Earth Society, whose members "still" believe that the earth is actually
>flat, in the ancient tradition.
>
>I find this hard to believe.  Why would they form an organization?  Why would
>they believe that the earth is flat?  Why would they care about it so
>strongly?

Oh, it's not so incredible.  It's probably something like the "Man
Will Never Fly Society," which meets each year at the site of, and 
on the anniversary of, the Wright Brothers' first flight.  Of course
the members don't *really* believe that man will never fly, although
they put on a good deadpan show for the news media.  It's really 
just an excuse for a bunch of guys to get together and have a drunken
party. 
-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Manager, SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The Flat Earth Society???
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:35:09 GMT

johana!tsw@apple.com (Tom Watson) writes:

>Sometimes this is NOT the case.  In some atmospheric conditions (which I
>don't remember now) You will see the BOTTOM of the ship first.  Yes,
>this has been documented and is NOT an UL!!

I think this is one version of the kind of mirage known as the
Fata Morgana.  Layers of air with varying temperatures have different
refractive indices, which can bend light vertically to create all
kinds of strange optical illusions.  It's not much different from
the mirages that create shimmering "reflections" of the sky on a
hot roadbed.
-- 
Matt McIrvin, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 20:46:26 GMT

In article <2940051@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
joanne@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Joanne Petersen) writes:
 
>One of my favorites is the one coined by Robert Heinlein, "tanstaafl" --
>"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch".  He also published "tanj"
>("there ain't no justice").  (At least I believe these were created by
>Heinlein -- if someone else made them up first and Heinlein merely used
>them in his books, don't tell me. :-)
 
try "WASPLEG and other mnemonics" by Bart Benne ISBN 0-87833-616-8
 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: Clio Awards
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:45:14 GMT


No, nothing scandalous.  The guy who owned "Clio Awards" went out of
business.  (And he did "own" it--a friend of mine tried to buy it from him,
but no sale.)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:10:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <rdippold.714754071@cancun>, rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>Occasionally it [law against monitoring cellular phone conversations]
>gets used as a political tool, as in the case in Minnesota (?) where a
>candidate for governor is in trouble for possessing a recording of

Virginia.  Governor Wilder vs. Senator Robb.
Or is there a similar case in Minn. too?
-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Manager, SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: m05751@foxtrot.data.st.statoil.no (Bjorn Hell Larsen)
Subject: Re: Driving tests
Reply-To: bjla@statoil.no
Organization: Statoil, Norway
	<1992Aug13.165410.22323@midway.uchicago.edu> <mcirvin.713733658@husc8>
	<BsxuH6.MKA@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>
	<1992Aug14.002923.15684@geovision.gvc.com> <chris.714350151@rufus>
	<CINDY.92Aug21155647@solan10.solan.unit.no>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:06:52 GMT


In article <CINDY.92Aug21155647@solan10.solan.unit.no> cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
>
>   ObFactoid:  Norwegian driver's licenses expire on the licensee's
>   100th birthday.
>

Yeah, I was pulled over once while speeding in California, and the
officer refused to believe that my license was a real one, on the
grounds that it says "7. Gyldig til: 08.07.2060". Also, it doesn't say
'Drivers License' anywhere on it, merely 'F|rerkort' and 'Permis de
Conduire'.

I was tempted to pull the 'Do you mean that the speedometer shows
*miles* rather than *kilometers*?' stunt, but didn't dare. He ended up
chewing me out and sending me on my way.


bjorn
---
Bjorn Hell Larsen                              Specialization is for insects.
bjla@statoil.no		                                      -- Lazarus Long
STATOIL DATA/TD
Stavanger, Norway
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: flash pictures of the sunset
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:29:37 GMT

In article <l9iertINNsfv@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, Dan Wright wrights:
>
> Using the typical 35mm manual camera, shutter speed should be set to
> 1/60 for flash pictures.  Without flash, at this slow speed, the
> motion of your hand as you jerked the trigger would smear the image.

Not so. As a rule of thumb you can use as slow times as 1/focal length (mm)
for hand-held shots without to much blur. (Ok, some people should probably
always use a tripod...)  The typical 35mm cheapo camera would usually have
a lens with something between 30-40mm focal length. You'd be pretty safe
using 1/60 sec. shutter speed. Because this is a rule of thumb you'd be
safe even with a 70mm (some of the cheapos are zoom nowadays).

---
YuNoHoo   "point the shiny end that way and jerk the trigger"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Gold coins (Was: Re: You are humble and loveable. CHOMP!)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:43:38 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>>...  Gold coins haven't been in 
>>common circulation for a very long time (if they ever were)

> [oh yes they have]

True, but did anyone ever circulate a gold coin so pure that one could
nick it with a bite? US gold coins were always 90% gold and 10% copper;
I defy anyone to nick one of these babies with their teeth. The bite
test was to detect counterfeit quarters cast from lead, which is quite 
soft. (Of course it's been about 50 years since quarters were worth
enough for anyone to bother counterfeiting them...)
From: gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Please help a dying young boy...
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:12:25 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


	George McBay is an 18 year old student from Massachusetts.  According
to his doctor, he is probably going to die from a dreaded infection known
as 'Lifeus Disease.'  It is unknown how long he will live, the doctor thinks
he may die within the next 90 years.  Please help this poor boy out, his
one goal in life is to be entered in the Guiness Book of World Records.
He would like to do this as 'The Person who has collected the most 5 dollar
bills.'  If you would like to help his cause, send a genuine five dollar
(US) bill to:

	George McBay
	PO Box 433a
	Chelsea, MA
	02150

You can help make the remainder of his life a happy one!
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From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.privacy,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:26:37 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

>carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock) writes:
>>My parents' TV goes up to 83.  It is about 20 years old.  It doesn't
>>seem to receive cellular phone conversations though, not that I would
>>try, since it's illegal.

>Just a question on why that should matter.  It's obviously not fear of
>getting caught, nor is it a particularly good law - it's only function
>seems to be letting cellular providers claim that conversations are
>"secure" without having to provide any form of encryption.

>As Will Rogers said, "With congress, every time they make a joke it's
>a law, and every time they make a law it's a joke."

I guess it's sort of like this:  draw that ole' famous bell curve, describing
the intelligence of the population, and then draw a vertical line right
smack in the middle of it.  Everybody on the right of it, you know who
you are.  Everybody on the left, well, the farther left you go, you probably
don't.  Anyway, re-draw the line just *1* more person to the right, and you
have a majority.

Poof: congress is elected.

And you can't do a thing about it.  

That is, you and I can't.

Dave
-- 
Dave Bushong, KZ1O@K1UGM.MA
Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Internet: dbushong@wang.com
From: dooley@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Kevin Dooley)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Chef Boy-Ar-Dee commercial
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:49:04 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA

Deep in my childhood memories lives a tv commercial for Chef Boy-Ar-Dee
spaghetti.  I don't know how widely seen this thing was, but it certainly
aired throughout Canada and (I think) the US too.  The setting was a
bunch of kids playing jump-rope on the streets of some old European 
(probably Italian) city.  Then the bells in the square start to ring
and the kids all go running home to eat their canned plastic ravioli,
or whatever.  Anyway, the puzzle is, what were the lyrics to the song?
It sounded something like (where words I'm unsure about are marked with
an asterisk):

	The bells ring *out loudly*
	It's lunch-time *already*
	For you and for me,
	It's Chef Boy-Ar-Dee.

Now, I've polled all my friends and my wife and I have racked our brains
(we have had too many papers to write lately) and come up with the following
possible permutations.

	* The bells ring out madly, it's lunch-time already
	* The bells ring a medley, it's lunch-time all readly
	* The bells ring Bo Diddly, it's lunch-time for kiddlies
and my wife insists upon
	* The bells ring all medmy, it's lunch-time all medmy
but refuses to explain what this could possibly mean.

So I am calling upon the net to help us to resolve this puzzle once and
for all.  I know it isn't really urban folklore, but it might as well be,
heck I asked friends of friends if they knew the true lyrics...  What
are the missing words?

Disclaimer: this is not in any way an endorsement of Chef Boy-Ar-Dee canned
pasta, which I have tasted and found to be all medmy.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.tv
From: adw@cci632.cci.com (Allen Williams (co-op))
Subject: Kimberly Dunning, or "Whatcha talking about?"
Organization: Computer Consoles Incorporated
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:58:48 GMT


 While at a party, cancled tv shows became a topic that was ernestly discussed.
Someone made the claim that the actress who played "Kimberly" in "Diff'rent
Strokes" was arrested for holding up a convenience store.

 I remember vaguely hearing about this on an Arseno Hall show, but I would
like the lurid details of the incident, if it took place.

 What was this actresses name? What possesed her to hold up a convenience
store? Was she on drugs, or simply out of work after her resuidals ran
out? Was she convicted, and/or served time or was otherwised sentenced?
What was the name of the convenience store - 7-11 ? How old is she? Did
she have an accomplice or was this a solo effort?

 Thanks for any information/trivia about this event. It is to satisfy
my idle curiosity.

 While on the subject, whatever happened to Gary Coleman? Did he find
some other line of work or did he befall a similar fate as above?

  Please forgive spelling errors. I'm too lazy right now to fix them.

                                                 Thanks,

                                                        Derrick


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Spaghetti trees
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 10:26:39 GMT

In article <87098@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>All this talk about parents giving us bum information (screaming peaches)
>and Chef Boy-Ar-Dee has brought back memories of my mom and dad telling us
>about spaghetti trees.
>
>Apparently, back when TV was first becoming popular, some wise-acre ran
>a "documentary" on where spaghetti comes from.  It showed all these happy
>Italian farmers, using their pitchforks to harvest spaghetti from the
>spaghetti trees.  My folks saw this; my mom believed it.  I have no idea
>what my dad thought; he's not saying.  
>
>Anybody else ever see this gem?  Or know anything about it?  Wonder if
>it's still around anywhere ...

San Giorgio ads.

cjl
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: mouse in Coors can 
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 04:28:24 GMT

I remember following this story as it unfolded in the media.  There were three
damning facts that the claimant could not explain away:

1) The mouse was of a species found in Florida, but not in Colorado
2) The estimated time of death of the mouse was inconsistant with the 
   canning date of the beer, and
3) The mouse bore bruises and scrapes consistant with being forced into the
   can thru the open pulltab.

--
Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson
From: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Re: Pencil in Priorities
Keywords: poison control
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:05:55 GMT
Reply-To: sweeney@Ingres.COM (Tony Sweeney)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Aug29.232107.28132@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
>
>ObTastelessFolklore: One of the most potent regurgitation-inducers is the sound  
>of someone else throwing up. 

Close behind the sight and *smell* of said person in potency.

>--
>Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
>Texas A & M University			uucp: uunet!cs.tamu.edu!daugher
>College Station, TX 77843-3112		BITNET: DAUGHER@TAMVENUS
>	---Not an official document of Texas A&M---

Tony "I once had the last kebab in the shop" Sweeney.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.drugs
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Cannibaderm, anyone?
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:38:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.161743.12829@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>
>>As Freewheeling Franklin sez, "Drinking beer and
>>smoking dope at the same time is like pissing into the wind."
>
>Two urban legends in one?
>I don't know where you got your information, but it is not correct.
>
>	1) Dope + alcohol will get the drinker/smoker more hammered 
>than either one alone.
>
>	2) THC can be extracted from uncooked marijuana using grain 
>alcohol, which can be injested for full effect, as from mj cooked
>into food.
>

The mind boggles at the thought of someone thinking of a Freak Brothers
comic strip as a source of information.  The drugs don't cancel themselves
out, any more than coffee and brandy.  I speculate that Franklin meant
that the consumption of beer interfered with his enjoyment of MJ, and
versa vice.

Phil "Someone wrote that Fat Freddy said this, and may be right.  But I
remember Freddy saying, 'Kill speeds! er, Peed Skills! ah, Skill Peeds!..."
Gustafson
-- 
|play: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG; {ames|pyramid|vsi1}!zorch!phil                |
|work: (Under Construction)              | Phil Gustafson                   |
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund)
Subject: Re: Thomas Crapper and Spread Spectrum
Summary: My ecstasy and knowing an answer revealed. 
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:22:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.012152.5220@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>
>I thought that Hedy (not Hedly!) Lamarr was famous for spreading her own
>personal spectrum in some European movie in the '30's before coming to
>Hollywood.
>
	The film was Ecstasy (also released as My Ecstasy).  It would 
be a soft R film now,  but it was hot stuff for the thirties.
	Hedy Lamarr's autobiography was entitled _Ecstasy and Me_.

Larry "why do I know this stuff?" Headlund

-- 
Larry Headlund  lmh@world.std.com    Eikonal Systems (617) 482-3345 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:02:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.190717.15203@pmafire.inel.gov> geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) writes:
>craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com writes:

>>each of the seven stranded castaways of _Gilligan's Island_ can be 
>>equated with one of the seven deadly sins. Lessee, this is from memory:
>>
>>Gilligan      = Sloth
>>The Skipper   = Anger
>>The Professor = Pride
>>Mr. Howell    = Avarice
>>Mrs. Howell   = Gluttony (???)
>>Ginger        = Lust (surprise!)
>>Mary Ann      = Envy (???)

>Mary Ann is always envious of Ginger's looks/attention from the men,
>etc.

>That's my theory, anyway.


To the contrary, I always wanted Mary Anne.  Something about those
wholesome farm girl looks of hers.



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From: bradn@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Bradford H Needham)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Craig Shergold's Origin
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:00:43 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

Consider that

- Millions of well-wishers all over the world are sending cards to London.
- The mail can't be destroyed (it must be delivered).
- Mail is piling up in warehouses all over the city.
- The situation is getting worse every day.

The Craig Shergold "send a sick boy a get-well card" story must have
originated as a Nazi act of sabotage during the second world war.  Like
some unexploded bomb, it has taken over 50 years for the Nazi's plan to
have the desired effect -- that of crippling London's communications in
preparation for invasion.


Brad "hey, it's no weirder than the other WWII sabotage ideas" Needham
bradn@tekig1.pen.tek.com
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: What makes an urban legend work?
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:13:22 GMT
Organization: The Gizmonic Institute

bls@sector7g."They never come up into the hills" Eng.Sun.COM writes:
Charles Lasner writes:
>> There is an ongoing debate as to whether there is a "natural" B12
>> supply not derived from meat, and a "quest" for an alleged vegetable
>> source that is an obscure plant, etc.
>
>Yes, this is known as the Quest for the Holi- Gruel.
>
It is my understanding that there are 4 varieties of kelp which 
contain B-12. (Andy and 3 ocean borne plants).

(That's for all you Westlake fan out there.)
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Write when you get the chance.
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Death by sneezing
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Date: 26 Aug 1992 21:03:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Aug26.192355.13314@bert.eecs.uic.edu> artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu 
(Ellyn Sandor) writes:

>	Does anyone have a clear description of how to do this?  I have been
>trying to teach it to my wife for a while, since airplane pressure changes
>are sort of difficult for her, but I can't for the life of me figure out
>how to describe what to do.


(1)  Pinch nose shut.

(2)  Close mouth.

(3)  Blow as you would to blow your nose.  

The increased pressure can't get equalize via any of the usual orificies, 
so it finds the path of least resistance through the eustachian tubes.



Val


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From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: there's a WHAT in my head?
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:57:58 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX

Okay, I've just heard this one from a friend's mother who works in a
hospital.  It smacks of urban legendry, but I've heard some pretty odd 
things from people who work in hospitals.  (No, it doesn't involve
sexual activity and power tools.)

Supposedly, this guy was having severe headaches and his doctor couldn't
figure out why.  Eventually the doctor used some kind of fancy scanning
and got to the bottom of it:  the patient has a worm living in his brain,
slowly munching away.  He claimed to have eaten raw bear meat on a hunting
trip some time earlier, which is being blamed for this catastrophe.

This is supposed to be the subject of a lot of talk in the hospital, the
doctor in question *does* work there, and many people claim to
have seen the patient's charts, etc., confirming this.  (The hosptial
is in another state, BTW.)

IMO this sounds a lot like the old earwig bit, or maybe the choking baby,
but could it be true?  (My question is how did the worm get from his
digestive tract to his brain?)  Anyone hear of similar maladies?

--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Newspaper shot in head
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:13:36 GMT

The Jerusalem Post (which once printed the one about the toilet that
explodes when a cigar is thrown in), on Aug. 21, p. 6A, prints the
following story, for which they credit Sinwa / Washington Post.  Sinwa
sounds to me like some agency that recycles articles from other papers.

    The condition of Arthur Ekvall was surprisingly good a day after an
    arrow was removed from his skull.  His roommate had shot him with a
    crossbow.

    It took San Diego surgeons more than two hours to cut an incision in
    Ekvall's forehead, unscrew the arrowhead and remove the shaft from the
    base of his skull.

    The roommate, Jesse Solis, 25, was arrested.  Police suspect that a
    lovers' quarrel prompted the attack.

    Officers were stunned to find Ekvall, 20, conscious with the arrow
    protruding from his head, a police spkesman said.  "He told them. 'You
    can see the arrow when I open my mouth.  I can also see it out my left
    eye if I work at it.'"

    Ekvall said he awoke with a terrible head pain and saw Solis reloading
    a crossbow.  Ekvall wrestled with and eventually disarmed Solis.
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