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From: saint@cats.ucsc.edu (Dan Bodenheimer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: How to set IIsi background to color...
Date: 14 Aug 1992 18:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Aug14.170722.2488@tamsun.tamu.edu> bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent) writes:
>
>Right after I got my IIsi I downloaded some of those background pattern
>control panels.  Well, they worked OK, but now that I've removed it, my
>background will not go back to color; it's stuck on b/w patterns.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>-Brent

Yeah, this happened to me too. I don't rightly recall all the steps that
I tried, but I think the easiest was to reinstall the system. One thing
that might have worked was to copy the ppat resource from a good system
and copy it into the one that was damaged. Zapping PRAM won't do you
any harm, and might also solve some other problems. Make sure that you
set the IIsi back into 256 color mode afterword.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bjang@cs.ulowell.edu (Bongseog Jang)
Subject: How can get Unix files to my Mac.
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:21:43 GMT


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: miocmit@athena.mit.edu (Boris Golubovic)
Subject: MS Word Dictionary
Keywords: Dictionary MS Word
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:56:31 GMT


I have a german dictionary which worked just fine with Word 4.0,
however I can NOT get it to work with the 5.0.
What's the scoop, is this problem fixable?

	Boris

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: whir@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Rick Allard)
Subject: File Sharing 6.0.3 to 7.0 questions
Organization: nil
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:46:44 GMT


In the near future I'd like to move a thick folder from a Plus running
6.0.3 or .4 to a new LC II.  Floppies'd work but I'm curious about
File Sharing and am considering soldering up a CapNet line (see
at-connector-substitute.txt at sumex) and using File Sharing.

Does File Sharing have to be installed on both machines to move one
item in this direction?  Can it be installed on this old System?


thanx



-- 
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Norbert Wiener as a pre-echo to McLuhan.          temp .sig; new in works
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kaneda@morrow.stanford.edu (Yushi Kaneda)
Subject: Re: SuperBoomerang + CE Toolbox conflict
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
	<KANEDA.92Aug16005359@elaine41.morrow.stanford.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:57:34 GMT


An apology for confusion....

In article <KANEDA.92Aug16005359@elaine41.morrow.stanford.edu> kaneda@loki.stanford.edu writes:

   SuperBoomerang 3.0 is a part of Now Utilities which includes CEToolbox.
   S-Bmrg 3.0 DOES require CEToolbox to run. If you don't have CET-box, 
   StartUp Manager would not activate it because SUMgr has the link such that
   you cannot use S-Bmrg without CET-box.

This was my misunderstanding.
S-Bmrg runs just fine w/o CET-box. However, the SUMgr has the INIT link
by default.

Now, all you have to do is just cancell the INIT link in the SUMgr.

Sorry about the confusion.		Yushi
From: echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Writing MAC-readable floppies from Sparcstation
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:19:21 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Aug20.224744.11647@access.usask.ca> reid@skorpio.Usask.ca (Irving Reid) writes:
>
>Sparcs will read and write the same physical format as MS-DOS and Mac
>FDHD drives (same track and sector layout, etc.).  What they don't do
>is put a valid DOS directory on the disk.  AFE reads the DOS
>directory from the disk; since there isn't one, AFE won't work.

I use "fdformat -d" on my Sparc to format diskettes, and it puts a
valid DOS direcotry. I use "mwrite" and "mread" to write/read the
diskettes. AFE works fine with this setup. I do it all the time.

echong@ecn.purdue.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:15259 comp.sys.mac.wanted:7752 comp.sys.mac.hardware:15759
From: swade@ocf.berkeley.edu (Wade Shen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: --- Mac II for sale ---
Date: 22 Aug 1992 06:34:06 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

I've got a MAC II "the original" for sale with the following
configuration:
 
        * 5 megs of RAM
        * 1 800K fd drive
        * 80 MEG Quantum Hard Drive
        * Standard apple 640X480 color video board
        * Apple 13" Monitor
 
        I'll take any reasonable offer on this equipment and consider it.
 
 
        Thanks
From: king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Programmers: suggestions for two new utilities
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:15:32 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


From king Fri Aug 14 11:15:28 1992
To: /afs/acpub/users5/king/.article

Hey!  This has already been done.  Look for "Put Away...", a nifty drag and drop
app.  I got mine at sumex.
King
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: Where to find SYS 6.05
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:58:23 GMT

John> == jmoulder  <jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu> 

>> I am trying to find system 6.05 anywhere.
>
> If you are using an older machine, 6.0.5 may be best for you.

 John> I understand why some people prefer 7.0 to 6.0.x, but what
 John> advantage would 6.0.5 have over 6.0.8 on an "older machine"?

(1) 6.0.5 is compatible with *everything*. The 7.0 printer drivers.
Truetype. Hypercard 1.X *and* 2.X. 

(2) 6.0.5 is more stable. I've run 6.0.7 and 6.0.5 on the same machines
(not simultaneously :-) and 6.0.5 just *crashed* less. This with the
same sets of inits (including HeapFixer). 

(3) 6.0.5 runs on the IIfx and older machines. This is a pro or a con,
depending. 6.0.5 uses the older style sound drivers, causing it to be
compatible/incompatible with various applications.

--Helen


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Chesterton)
Subject: Types of color monitors for SE30?
Organization: Benedict
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:53:56 GMT


Hi All,

   I am interested in getting a color monitor for an SE30 (preferably
   13" or larger).  I see a zillion color monitors for the Mac II series,
   but not so many for the SE30.  My question then goes out to owners
   of SE30's ... have you ever gotten color monitors, from who, and
   what price (assuming that includes a video board to stick in the 
   SE30's PDA slot)?

   All input welcome!

--- Ian ---
-- 
"Sir ... I protest!  I am not a merry man!"
					   - Worf, Q-Pid
From: timbp@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: strange "click" when appl. quits
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:07:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug14.005228.27329@ems.psu.e:981262054:peg:252400005:000:109
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!timbp    Aug 20 12:07:00 1992


I get a click when an application or DA quits too. I use system 7 on an SE.
I have no idea what it is.

Tim.
From: cory@enigami.mv.com (Cory Kempf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: * America On-Line vs. Prodigy vs. Genie...which one??
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:56:43 GMT
Reply-To: cory@enigami.mv.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: EnigamI, Inc., Nashua, NH
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <SMITTIE.92Aug12100806@beach.csulb.edu> (comp.sys.mac.misc), smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>>What is this hangup people have about wanting to do things the hard way????
>>If you like Compu$serve without Navigator you must just LOVE Unix and DOS!
>
>A true AOL evangelist at work. Doncha just love it.

I think the problem is that the technology exists to make the systems
easy to use.  AOL is easier to use than Compu$serve, et al, (cheaper
too, but that is beside the point).  

The problem with easy to use systems is that they invariable trade
speed of use for ease of use.  The better easy to use systems try
to reduce the speed hit, by providing short cuts that the system teaches
you.  The mac menus are a prime example of this: the command keys
are right there.  You learn them as you use them, and eventually,
they become automatic.

AOL, is unfortunately not up to this stage.  The keywords facility
can be used to navigate you to any point in the system instantly (similar
to the "go xxxx" of Compu$serve), but the system doesn't teach you
what they are.

In any case, users of AOL end up paying for the screen information
to come down, the time to redraw, etc.  Personally, I prefer to pay
for the user friendly screens that to pay for my frustration trying
to find / remember where something interesting is located, or reading
help files.  Even if they don't charge for it (some services don't
charge when you are reading the help section), *MY* time is still
valuable!

However, many (most) computer nerds *LIKE* cryptic interfaces, command
lines.  Personally, I can use unix just as fast (faster for some things,
slower for others) as I can my Mac.  But I also remember what it took
to get to that point.  I was not willing to invest that time into
Compu$serve.  

+C


-------------------------------------------------------------
Cory Kempf                    EnigamI, Inc.
cory@enigami.mv.com           ...!decvax!enigami!cory
Annon:	wi.5036@wizvax.methuen.ma.us

"F' cryin' out loud, it's *your* life; shouldn't you at least examine 
your lifestyle values to see if they are really what *you* want."
										--Keith Lim
From: mcp@drutx.ATT.COM (Mike Paugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: New PowerPoint?
Keywords: when
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:50:22 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Denver


Has Microsoft announced an upgrade to PowerPoint (for the Mac)
yet?  I have heard rumors of one since about June and a picture 
in the latest MacWeek makes me believe that it may have been 
announced at MacWorld.  If it is not yet available, does anyone 
know the release date?

Mike Paugh                Reading departure signs in some big airport
AT&T Bell Labs            Reminds me of the places I've been.
Denver                      -- Jimmy Buffett --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Pete Kelly <pfkelly@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: QuickMail Contact
X-Xxdate: Tue, 18 Aug 92 02:23:55 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:19:14 GMT

Subject: QuickMail Contact
From: John W. Wooten, woo@ornl.gov
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:37:40 GMT
In article <1992Aug18.123740.24665@ornl.gov> John W. Wooten, woo@ornl.gov
writes:
>I'm beginning to have problems with an appletalk network with 12 macs.   
>We have a central server (SE30) with 100mbyte hard drive and 4 mbyte  
>memory.  We run it as a file server and as a QuickMail server.  Now,  
>people are often not allowed to log into their QuickMail or it takes a  
>very long time.
>
>Do I need more cpu cycles, more memory?  Things got worse under 7.1 and  
>the new version of QuickMail.
>

I had a similar problem with System 7 and QM 2.5.1.  I use a separate Mac
CI for my QM server and had turned on System 7 File Sharing to facilitate
backing up the server across the network with Retrospect. Over the next
day or two a lot of entries started showing up in the QM server's Dead
Mail queue.  Users started complaining that they often couldn't connect
to the MailCenter.

CE Software's Tech Support told me there was a known problem with QM
2.5.1 and File Sharing and that turning File Sharing off would solve the
problem.  Supposedly it's a bug in Apple's Sharing software. If they
couldn't get Apple to correct their mistake, CE would probably issue a
patch to QM.  

I'll make the assumption here that you're using AppleShare 3.0 since you
mention System 7.1.   Since AppleShare 3.0 and File Sharing are similarly
configured I'll bet you'll get a similar answer from CE.

If you find out exactly who's going to fix the problem (Apple or CE), let
us all know.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: Losing mouse clicks!
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 00:31:10 EDT

wengler@ee.rochester.edu (Mikey) writes:

> ps - I hadn't even thought of trying a different mouse.  You get to
> system 7 on a Mac, and it seems ALL problems are software!

Well try it. This happened to me, but instead of getting a new mouse, I 
just banged the thing against the table a few times. Seemed to work ok 
after that....

But really, if you are "ok" with electronics, just take apart the mouse 
and CLEAN it. Good. Not just the ball, but the whole thing.;



---
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outragous to post here.

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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Information on: The IIvi, IIvx, and Performa 600
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:44:45 GMT

In article <CKD.92Aug17220503@loiosh.eff.org>, ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
> 
> Mike> == Mike Steiner <mike_steiner@qm.claris.com> 
> 
>  Mike> The IIci is 25 MHz; the IIsi is 20 MHz.  Apple currently does not
>  Mike> market a 33MHz computer.
> 
> Isn't the Q950 a 33MHz machine?  Granted, it's not a 68030...

True.  I should have said a 33MHz 030 machine--which is what I had meant.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: You cannot do xxx to file yyy, because it cannot be found
From: marc@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Marc Matteo)
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:34:36 PDT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

My experience with this dialog from hell shows that it can be corrected after
either quitting all relevent applications or restarting (same effect I imagine)

Apperently the file is in fact gone.  The finder just doen't know it yet.   
(Can you say bug? :) )  After all refferences to it are wipped out it should
vanish.  Note that: 'should'.

Marc.

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Journalism/Computer Science  | GEnie:     M.MATTEO                    (better)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: peller@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Adam Peller)
Subject: Dvorak keyboards for the Mac?
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:39:50 GMT

I'm about to invest in a new Mac and I despise the cheesy keyboards
Apple is selling these days :-(

Since I'm also about to take the plunge and attempt to learn the
Dvorak keyboard, I was wondering if anyone knows of a company
that makes a decent keyboard in the Dvorak configuration.

If not, 1) are there any decent QWERTY 3rd-party keyboards out there
(not necessarily IBM-like with unnecessary PF keys and such,
just a simple, solid keyboard) and 2) are there any PD utilities
to rearrange the Mac keyboard for Dvorak?  (probably just a keymap
layout file, right?  I suppose I could make it up myself...)

Thanks

Adam Peller
peller@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
From: stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: A couple more easter eggs...
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:30:45 GMT
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Found a couple of Easter Eggs the other day that I've never seen
mentioned before:

1. Have a look at STR# ID -16415 in the System file (System 7,
   don't know about 6). I'm not sure whether I like the
   implications of this one -- interesting twist on an old curse
   though :)

2. In SoundEdit 2.0, if you hold down Option (? one of the
   modifier keys anyway) and click on the File menu, "Close"
   changes to "Close for Joe". Doesn't seem to do anything
   different that I noticed.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nigel Stanger,                  Internet: stanger@otago.ac.nz
University of Otago,            Phone: +64 3 479-8179
Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.           Fax:   +64 3 479-8311
Slowly the sinking steamer sank.
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: PowerBook Insurance
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:35:58 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

I received the following info on a card that came as junk mail.

The ComputerInsurance Agency, Inc.
6150 Old Millersport Rd., N. E.
Pleasantville, Ohio 43148-9900
(800) 722-0385

+covers theft, fire, power surges, accidents, natural disasters, even
earthquakes and flood.

+Replacement with no depreciation

+Covers computer hardware in the home or office

+Transit up to $10,000 (anyone know what this means?)

Costs are listed as follows:
Hardware	Software	Annual
coverage	coverage	premium
$3000		$600		$60
$4000		$800		$80
$5000		$1000		$100
$6000		$1200		$120
$7000		$1400		$140
Call for rates on higher amounts
Subject to underwriting

There is a 30 day free trail period - Satisfaction Guaranteed

I have absolutely no relationship with this company what so ever.

smittie
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From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: a non-techie view of Newton
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:11:05 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Aug19.074200.7132@leland.Stanford.EDU> stchang@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steven Kuk-Jin Chang) writes:

>Apple no longer ships the powerbook 100 so if you want it youll have to buy 
>it soon.  However, if they keep the 145 after they intro the 4 new models
>then the price of the 145 will be cheap (around 1000 with stanford's academic

Huh?  I thought the PB145 WAS one of the new models?  Do you mean the PB140?
That is currently selling for a lot more than $1000 around here.

>A Note on academic pricing:  In general, schools pay the same price to Apple
>that the superstores do.  The reason that they are less expensive is that 
>schools are limited on their markup.

That is just not true in the case of the PB100.  The 4/80 configuration which
Price Club is (was?) selling for $900 was going for about $1400 on the
educational price here, with the 2/40 going for about $1000.

.............................................................................
....Boyd Ostroff / Technical Director / SUNY Oswego Department of Theatre....
...............Voice: (315) 341-2987 /  Fax: (315) 341-3394..................
..............ostroff@oswego.oswego.edu / ostroff@cboard.UUCP................
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Pete Kelly <pfkelly@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: PowerBook Rescue Disk?
X-Xxdate: Tue, 18 Aug 92 02:59:48 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 01:55:07 GMT

Subject: Re: PowerBook Rescue Disk?
From: Gregory Talmo, zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:52:22 -0600
In article <zaphod-180892144433@gregt.winona.msus.edu> Gregory Talmo,
zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu writes:
>In article <l9287lINN3ut@cronkite>, billc@sextant.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill
>Courington) wrote:
>> 
>> I recently had the experience of my PB140 leaving its system 
>> file in an inconsistent state so that it wouldn't reboot.  
>> How can I make a mini-system that will fit on a diskette?  
>> The real question, I guess, is how do I figure out the 
>> minimal contents of a system folder?
>
>  Somewhere on the Internet is a document outlining how to slim down your
>System file by using ResEdit.  A PowerBook 170 specific System file on a
>diet is about 515K, a System file for any mac is about 750K.  I don't
know
>where I found it, but I have it on disk so if anyone wants it I'd be glad
>to email it.  Or if someone knows where it resides on the Net it would be
>easier on me.
>
>  The document is _*ONLY*_ for people who are _very_ comfortable with
>ResEdit.  (i.e. Kids don't try this without parental supervision)
>
>
>- Greg Talmo  (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)
>  [The opinions expressed above are my own, and do not necessarily
reflect
>   the opinions, tastes, or policies of Winona State University, its
>   faculty, staff or students.]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
From: smithc@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Christopher A. Smith)
Subject: Russian Keyboard Layout?
Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield (aka Cow Country), MN   USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:13:53 GMT


A co-worker of mine, a Russian linguist, is looking for a Russian
keyboard layout for the Mac.  I mean, he would like to be able to go
to the Keyboard Control Panel device, and choose a Russian keyboard
setup from the list of available keyboard setups there in that
particular device...

Does anyone have, or know where I can find, a Russian keyboard layout
that'll accomplish this?

Thanks!

  ==================================================================
			 Christopher A. Smith
       German & Mathematics -- St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN
		     Internet:  smithc@stolaf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Emptying the Trash in System 7
From: vreddy@husc3.harvard.edu
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:08:06 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I have a question... I think it's a system 7 question. When I empty the trash
in system 7, if there are any icons in between the hard drive icon and the
trash icon, a "path" is erased between these icons... so that I have to click
on any icons that were there to "unerase" them... if you understand what I
am trying to say, what is going on? Is it one of my inits? or is this system
7 in general? Thanks in advance...

-- Venk Reddy --

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Macs cost too much (NOT!)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<BsKts4.C2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:11:15 GMT

Mike> == Mike Berger <berger@atropa> 

[your news software is broken.]

 Mike> Doesn't that illustrate my point?  On the Mac, you can only use
 Mike> what the Mac operating system supports.  The chooser doesn't list
 Mike> all the hundreds of printers I could buy.

Funny that.  Maybe it's because the DRIVERS come with the PRINTERS, so
if I go get the SuperWowzer Color Printer/Plotter/Porsche, I get a
driver with it, and all my applications work, even though instead of
PostScript it uses Tibetan Yak-Herder Lingo for a page-description
language... I don't need a Windows driver, a WordPerfect driver, etc...
--
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            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master