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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Coppola's "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:17:53 GMT

In article <BxtvtD.B7J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptm57791@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Patrick T. Murzyn) writes:
>	The thing that most ruined it for me were the models and puppets,
> used in recreating the early battle scene and then the train rides. I
> couldnt help thinking that Coppola might have been able to go through
> less trouble to simply go on-location to some mountain with train tracks
> and film the scene. Oh, well. The sets, too, were annoying. The scenes
> shot in "London" just cried out, "Soundstage!" to me. Likewise, the final
> chase scene on the mountain looked like the actors rode in off the back
> lot and into the set, while some lackey sprinkled powdered-sugar in front
> of the camera for snow. Yuck.

I believe that Coppola chose the look of this film very carefully.
Models and soundstages were used because he wanted an artificial,
non-naturalistic look.  Such a look gives a more otherworldly, disturbing
feel to the visuals.  Similarly, the editing choices that some deride
as "cheesy" were intentionally designed to draw attention to themselves,
and had a thematic purpose.  Some people clearly would have preferred
a more naturalistic version of "Dracula", but it seems to me that Coppola's
choice to make it this way is a legitimate choice and, within the limitations
of that choice, he did a very good job.  While I have reservations about
the film as narrative, and some of the performances didn't work too well,
I think that Coppola produced a superb visual film.  If you like strong
stories in your films, perhaps this one isn't for you.  If you like films
that set a mood and provide an unusual, sometimes disturbing view of the
world, you might find Coppola's to be interesting.  No other major studio
release this year has had such a unique look to it, at any rate.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: Eberts DRACULA review
Keywords: Ebert, new Dracula film, Coppola, review
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 00:05:34 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov

In article <BxoHxs.GBA@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, kpapai@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Ken Papai) writes:
|> Just read Roger Ebert's review that he posted on CompuServe.  He likes
|> the movie.  He loves its look.  I can't wait.  I've been waiting since
|> I first heard of Coppola's project 10 months ago.
|> 
|> This looks like a top five of all time movie I think.
|> 
|> Ken Papai
|> Major Horror Movie Fan
|> Star Trek Fan since '66
Whats one of the others on your list?  Pee-Wee's big adventure?

Sam

P.S., I did see the movie, and I agreed with Siskel.  A definite thumbs down.
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MC's Jurassic Park (possible SPOILER)
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Nov19.144528.10415@mtu.edu> ksjohnso@mathlab.mtu.edu  
(KRIS A. JOHNSON) writes:
> ****************SPOILER ALERT!!***************






> I heard a nasty rumor that Speilberg(sp?) was going to make the  
> velociraptors 20 feet tall.  Can anyone tell me if this is true.   
If it  
> is, I think it is going to take something away from Crichton's  
story.  In  
> the book the velociraptors are only about 6 feet tall and are very  
> intelligent (can open doors, etc.) Making them 20 feet tall is just  
like  
> having a few more T. Rex's around.
> Anybody know anything more on this?
> 

I hope this is NOT the case, since velociraptors were 6 feet tall,
not 20 feet tall.   Crighton did a good job of using real
dinosaurs in the book, and made them behave reasonably most 
of the time (though a tyrannosaur stalking someone for any amount
of time at all is rather unrealistic).




--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
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From: maw5s@Virginia.EDU ("Melissa Wiley")
Subject: Catwoman: feminist or femme fatale?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:44:20 GMT

What do you think?  I'm considering writing about the subject
and would be interested in your opinions!  Has anyone seen any
of the old, old TV reruns of Batman where Eartha Kitt plays
catwoman?  Also, can anyone give me some info about catwoman's
comic book history?  Thanks!!! ---Melissa Wiley
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From: thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: RISING SUN (was RE: Jurassic Park Spoiler)
Organization: Aston University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:34:26 GMT

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
: I hope I can clear this up.  I think what is trying to be said in the *first*
: quotation is that:
: 
: Wesly Snipes (who will be in Rising Sun, blah, blah, blah) is ALSO slated to 
: play The Black Panther.  (Based on the Marvel comic book hero of the same name,
: but doesn't turn into a panther, just has the strength and agility of one)
: 
: Does this make any more sense to you?  So there is only one _Rising Sun_ film,
: which is indeed based on the Michael Crichton novel.  The Black Panther project
: is something else entirely.  (But sounds pretty cool)
: 
	Sorry to cause confusion, but I just typed it straight in out of
Empire. I did think it sounded a bit unlikely at the time, but, hey - these guys
should know what they're talking about... Humph.


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From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: Final Approach; Did it show in theaters?
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:48:25 GMT

I felt it was like an expanded Twilight Zone episode.  I only wish it
was more as the trailer purported.
From: otran@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Master Sun Tzu )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Coppola's "Bram Stoker's Dracula"
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:09:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov16.144420.28199@scott.skidmore.edu> dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter) writes:
>Agreed- visually stunning and thought -provoking.
>
>Anthony Hopkins provided much-needed campy comic releif.

- comic relief that should not have been in the film!  I expected
more from Coppola, but times are changing.  Movies which I believe
should be dramatic, I mean without any comic relief, are being
transformed into pseudo-comic/dramatic or the like.  Such scenes
ruin a 'good' movie; take The Godfather for example, what would it
be like if any of the main characters said a 'hoaky' or 'cheesy'
line.  It just wouldn't go; it's just senseless.  If a movie is
surpose to be a comedy, then that's fine, but otherwise leave the
wise cracks out of it.  You just can't try to satisfy everyone,
which is what it seems movie makers are trying to do.  Aside from
this and the movie's overall lack of organization, it was an ok
movie saved by its visual effects.  Just my 2 cents.

Oai Tran

By the way, what did you do when Arnold said "I let him go" when
he dropped a guy he was holding from a cliff or when he said 
"Stick around" after he pinned some guy to a tree with a thrown
dagger?

a> you cracked up or
b> you said, 'give me a break!'

--------------------------------------------------------------
Master Sun Tzu said:

Those who win every battle are not really 
skillful -- those who render others' armies 
helpless without fighting are the best of all.
From: gph@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (G. Paul Houtz)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:07:21 GMT
Subject: Re: Dracula sucked
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
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gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>
>	Well, the woman I saw it with disliked it as much as I did.  Flaws she
>pointed out were the trivialization of Van Helsing, the surgical removal of any
>horror involved in the ship voyage to England, the gratuitousness of Seward's
>addiction (so he's an addict.  This remains unimportant throughout the film),
>the excision of Holmwood's reluctance to accede to Van Helsing's request to
>decapitate Lucy (which took days in the novel), the gratuitousness of Dracula's
>latex-bound form, the inaccuracy of the period of the costumes, and the com-
>plete woodenness and interchangeability of Seward, Morris, Holmwood & Harker.
>Granted, the visuals were nice, and Ryder and Oldman gave good performances,
>but Hopkins' over-the-top performance as Van Helsing destroyed the atmosphere,
>and Coppola's vacillating between Dracula as blood-sucking monster and Dracula
>as love-starved tragic figure kept us from reaching any kind of understanding
>of the character.  Overall, a pretty picture to look at, but it doesn't bear
>up to thinking.
>----------

   Good critical analysis, George. 

   I don't buy into the whole christianity thing, so I wonder if that is
   another reason why the film utterly failed to move me.   I also thought
   it was extremely heavy handed that in Godfather I, a bunch of murders and
   violence happen interspersed with scenes from the church where the baptism
   is occuring, and in BSD, scenes of violence are interspersed with scenes
   from the church where the Harker's wedding is occurring.   

   I think Coppola has gotten a bit too much of himself.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Cheesy monsters (was Re: Brief review of Dracula)
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:18:04 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

drwho@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann) writes:

>Ok, all you folks out there in net land, what movies have you seen that 
>featured a monster which doesn't look "cheesy"?  (Sounds like the Subject 
>line of another unending thread to me!:-)

T2
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From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: First "Dracula" Goof - Minor Spoiler
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:18:49 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

Minor spoiler ahead...

Spotted what appears to be a slight goof: In the scene where Mina walks
Lucy back to the house after her 'sleep-walking' excursion (and 
subsequent molestation by the werewolf), the shadow of some set 
equipment appears on their gowns as they pass from left to right. 
Something squarish, with what looked like side panels.

Awaiting verification...

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From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson is not)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:03:12 GMT

klkarp@remus.rutgers.edu  writes:
> 
> 	I was wondering if anyone could settle an argument I am having
> with a friend.
> 
> 	In Terminator I, Arnold says 'Get out' to the guy in the truck
> (or something).
> 
> 	Does he say 'Get out' to anyone in Terminator II?
> 
> 	I know the bad terminator does, to the guy in the helicopter,
> but, does Arnold ever say it??
> 
> thanks for any help!!
> 
> klkarp@remus.rutgers.edu

Not to my knowledge. But listen for repeats of Reese's lines
coming from Arnold (i.e. "Come with me if you want to live").

Steve
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This long road. This empty room.               sdt8s@virginia.edu
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From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: 2001 shown letterboxed on TNT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:32:58 GMT


the cable channel TNT just showed 2001 letterboxed.
my question is, was it fully letterboxed? I mean, wasn't the
original film image still wider than that? My friend's Blade Runner
laserdisc seemed to use only 1/3 or the total video screen; 2001
on TNT seemed to have much thinner bars on the top and bottom.

By the way, I rented Star Wars in regular pan-and-scan and I was
surprised they did not try to do something about the prologue titles
'cause you couldn't see a whole line till it was vertically in the
middle.
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
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From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
Subject: Re: "Bram Stoker's Dracula" hits big, first weekend
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:13:39 GMT

In article <mattm-181192120202@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>I suppose the bulk of my annoyance with the movie's treatment here is
>the sniping by armchair directors, 

Huh?  I haven't seen any of that.  My personal gripe is that I simply
didn't find the film an enjoyable movie-going experience (or do you deny
me the right to hold an opinion contrary to yours, as well?).  So I put on my 
artiste hat.  Could I have enjoyed being uncomfortable?  Nope: just wasn't 
THAT good, either.  Go to see it for the pretty pictures, not because it's 
an effective telling of the story.  Just how many people do you think will 
pay to go see pretty pictures?  


>and this has spilled into scoffing
>at predictions of the movie's doom.  It's a pretty thick limb to
>walk out onto saying that the film will make gobs of money.

I'd be surprised if it makes more than half what it did the opening week,
this week.  And half that again, next week.  By Christmas, it will be off
the screens (Cf Terminator 2, which showed in many areas for over six months,
or Last of the Mohicans, which is still showing).  Word of mouth can make
a movie, and it can kill a movie.  I've yet to run into someone who can 
RECOMMEND it: instead, "Well, it's okay, buuuuuuuuut...  well, go ahead and
see it, you might like it."






---
Robert Dorsett
rdd@cactus.org
...cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!rdd
From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Tough question but perhaps wrong group
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:19:34 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


In article <1992Nov10.181355.7515@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Joseph.J.Marcheso.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (Joseph J. Marcheso Jr.) writes:
> HI, my friend says she saw a porn film with Sylvester Stallone and
> among other things she saw Mr. Stallone:
> 1)receiving oral sex (it could have been with the hand actually but I
> don't remember)
> 2)fully naked
> 3)moaning a lot
> 4)was well endowed

taking them one at a time:
  1) yes
  2) yes (barely)
  3) yes (but isn't that his typical acting style)
  4) no

(Couldn't resist ;-)

In article <1992Nov11.204040.20117@infonode.ingr.com> dianne@dianne.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Dianne Ferrans) writes:
>He WAS in a porn movie, before he was famous, called "Italian Stallion"
>ergo the nickname. 

In article <BxKLvF.Fz8@acsu.buffalo.edu> dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti) writes:
>I've not seen it myself, but I have heard this before (that Stallone did
>a porno movie early in his career).  The title that I heard was "Partying
>Kittens and Studs".  Could very well be the same film, they change the names
>of those things all the time.

The film was orginally called `Party at Kitty and Stud's' and fell
into obscurity.  It was retitled `Italian Stallion' after Rocky made
Stallone famous, to capitalize on his fame. So the nickname was based
on Rocky and not the aforemention skin flick. It's available on video
from cult movie outlets. By today's standards, it would receive an R
rating.  The movie is really quite dull and uninteresting, but may
have some curiosity factor for Stallone fans.  


-- 
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Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB
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From: hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett)
Subject: What happened with RoboCop 3?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:09:28 GMT


  I seem to remember a while ago that Orion pictures was making RoboCop 3.
I also remember hearing that Peter Weller didn't want to do the part, so
they had to recast.  I do remember seeing some preliminary footage on 
Entertainment Tonight, where they said that R3 would be out sometime this year.
Well, as you all know, Orion had some financial troubles (let's face it, they
went bankrupt.) And, I have not heard anything about R3 since. (Well, I did
see an add for a Nintendo game based on R3).  Does anyone know when R3 will
be released?  A better question, perhaps, would be, did the movie get finished? 
  Just curious, thanks in advance.

Donald L.C. Blewett

hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca

Ooh master, you're so evil!!

;-> Evil Grin 

L8R                                                

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From: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Subject: Re: ALADDIN, lightly salted & reviewed (no cholesterol, no spoilers)
Keywords: ALADDIN
Reply-To: fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:22:41 GMT


My first post didn't seem to get through, so I'd like to apologize if
this is a copy.

>PS. Just to satisfy curiosity (I missed it in the credits): who did the
>    voice of the narrator/peddler who opens the film?  Williams?

This was done by Bruce Adler. He plays Zangler in the Broadway musical
Crazy for You. A good musical, this one is.

>PPS. Damn, do I want this on laserdisc.  (I and the rest of the Holy Trinity
>     who accompanied me to the film (Jerry Boyajian and Rob Ferguson as The
>     Holy Ghost) would gladly sell Jeffrey Katzenberg's soul to get a good,
>     letterboxed CAV edition of this film tomorrow.  (But, given JK's
>     position, it's probably too late.))

AAAARRGGHHH!!!! I want it too!!! But BatB is only coming out next
year on disc and with Disney's policy on LDs....

BTW, did anyone catch the Aladdin work-in-progress screening at the NY
Film Festival? They charged $50 per seat (that's *without* dinner!)
and that was a bit too much for me. I have a feeling that Disney will
release the WIP disc first. 

        farul ghazali.
        columbia university in the city of new york.
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From: jcorbit@hubcap.clemson.edu (john thomas corbitt)
Subject: Re: Rising Sun, again, an apology
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:02:37 GMT

hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Ttewelb C.L. Dlanod) writes:

>Message-ID: <1992Nov18.134237.6209@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>
>Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
>Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:42:37 GMT
>Lines: 24


>   Hey, guys, don't bite my head off, if I made a mistake, I apologize.  When I 
>read the post it clearly stated "Philip Kaufman's The Rising Sun".  I went to
>my public library to check, and while there was no book by Kaufman, there 
>were THREE books all titled The Rising Sun, or Rising Sun, (and Sudbury's 
>library is not that large).  Don't get me wrong, I can't wait to see Crichton's
>Rising Sun on the big screen, and when I read that post, I was really upset
>to think it was a different book. 
>   Anyway, I have seen some debate about various Crichton novels and whether
>they would make good movies or not.  While I did like Sphere, I don't think
>it would work well as a movie.  Same for Congo, (my personal favourite).
>I do however think the Great Train Robbery would translate to the big screen 
>quite well and perhaps The Terminal Man also.

>So once again, my most humble apologies, and I'll see you at the movies.

>Donald L.C. Blewett

>hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentain.ca

>Ooh Master, you're so EVIL!!!!!

>    ;->  Evil Grin!

If I'm not mistaken, both of the books you mention have been filmed.
The Terminal Man, with George Segal, came out in '74 or '75, and   
The Great Train Robbery, with Sean Connery(I think), in '81 or '82.
I'm not sure about the dates or cast for either of these, so perhaps 
someone who remembers more can give you more detail.
       
        
            John
            jcorbit@hubcap.clemson.edu        "Walk this way."
                                              "If I could walk that way..."


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From: boylan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Terran Boylan)
Subject: Re: Wim Wenders "Until the end of the world", any good?
Organization: Engineering Animation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:47:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.151142.4606@ncar.ucar.edu>, staffelb@acd.ucar.edu (Thomas Staffelbach 497-1499 room 382) writes:
> 
> Does anybody out there have an opinion about this movie they would
> like to share?
> I'm still not decided whether to go and see it tonight.
> 

I rented and watched this a couple of nights ago.  I found the premise
interesting, but it seemed like it just dragged on forever (150+ min).
I wouldn't recommend it, but there have been some folks on the net who
seem to have liked it.

-- 
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Engineering Animation, Inc.,  Ames, IA  | and lost than just to have
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From: jmw3c@Virginia.EDU ("Eddie (THE MAN) Vedder")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park Spoiler (almost)
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:26:22 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

I agree that Rising Sun would make a great film, and as far as
I know, it is already in production.  Good news for lately
Crichton fans.  Jurassic Park may be his best book ever, but
The Great Train Robbery was a fantastic film as well.
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: "Newt" is not dead
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 14:53:16 GMT

Some time ago there were postings claiming that Carrie Henn ( "Newt" in
"Aliens" ) had died. This is not true. At least she was still alive when she
visited a premiere of "Alien 3" with Sigourney Weaver.
( Source: Cinefantastique ).
							M.H.
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From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Dracula sucked
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:56:50 GMT

Well, I admit it, Dracula is a nice looking film with good
performances.  Like Batman Returns, however, I was bored to death!
This movie is one of the most boring movies I watched this year.  I
give it **1/2 out of ****.
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From: jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:24:11 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <1992Nov14.031723.14448@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lfiddick@nyx.cs.du.edu (larry fiddick) writes:


>what is his latest film?

As far as I know, PG's latest film (1991) was `Prospero's Books', 
based on `The Tempest'. (Not one of his best, IMHO).

BTW, Did his fairly wonderful `Dante's Inferno' ever reach the US?

	john N

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