From: london@sunSITE.unc.edu (Larry London)
Subject: Re: GP wants you, was Re: government organic food purchas
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:28:04 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.sustainable.agriculture
Subject: Re: GP wants you, was Re: government organic food purchas
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In article <-1363838459snx@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au> gil@Gilsys.DIALix.oz.au 
>(Gil Hardwick) writes:
>Dave, the attacks made here have been specifically by those promoting
>organic growing against those they perceive to be fighting to retain

Either you can't read or you've deliberately blocked out the attacks
made by the agrichemical set. Wonder why? Wonder why you're so willing to
throw in the towel when it comes to continuing the effort to move agribusiness
away from less sustainable/more toxic methods. Maybe you don't know much
about natural farming. 

 >the capitalist monoculture designed by evil chemical corporations
>and bankers to exploit farmers and pollute the world to their own
>neferious ends.
You said it, we (the organic folks) didn't. None of us have ever spewed
such drivel.

> There is no such conspiracy, and perhaps such wholly
How would you know? 

>paranoid promoters of singular alternatives might just relax a little
>so we can all begin working together to sort out some of the problems
>involved with feeding people.

We've been doing just that. You haven't been reading. Or you've blocked it 
out or submerged it in rhetoric to make it look as if we've only been
flaming the agrichemical set.

>I too am here for the duration. If I have a comment to make, I will
>make it without anticipating that some hysteric will want to be
>attacking me and bogging the discussion down in political hype and
>semantics.

None of us organic folks have been bogging down the discussion.

> > >I admit, organic is one of those ways, but it doesn't even come close to
> > >meeting the requirement of a hungry world.
> >  
> > Why not?
>
>The question is not concerned with *why*, but *how*. Perhaps you can
>enlighten us a little on what you have to say on the matter instead of
>carrying on with this crap.

Crap? Your drivel is so lacking in content I usually hit the 'n' key 
without reading your posts. We've been enlightening you people on a regular
basis as to the possibilities of natural farming; you simply have not been
reading what we're saying, or maybe you just can't comprehend it.

It's pretty obvious at this point that you, Christie and Kilen are phonies
and are posting your drivel here in an attempt to disrupt this conference.
In future I will neither read or archive any of your posts. When I learn
how to create a kill file I'll purge your posts in a more efficient manner.

Now that your position is clear we can get on with the business of
learning how to make farming organically an even more productive and
sustainable enterprise without wasting time listening to you and your
anti-organic-farming colleagues.

Why don't you start your own newsgroup, i.e. alt.agriculture, where
you might feel more comfortable?

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