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From: iwirawan@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Indra Wirawan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: Feeding our newsgroup
Date: 21 Nov 1992 06:52:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
Keywords: sports news

vinch@IASTATE.EDU (Jonni Anwar) writes:

 [..deleted]

>Or maybe some of you guys know some statistics of Indonesians students in
>the U.S. I have no idea how many Indonesians students are studying in the U.S.

 Ok that's good idea but not to forget other Indonesians studying at
Australia 8^}

>More, I heard about Indonesians Proffessional Association in California. 
>This association helps Indonesians students to get the right job when they
>back to our lovely country (pulang kampuang.. :) ). According to what I hear
>from my advisor here at Iowa State, they have a list of interested company 
>that will hire Indonesians students.
>It will be great to have those guys within this newsgroup.

  yes, i'd like to hear more about this, anyone got idea ?

>*****************************************************************************
> Department of Industrial and Manufacturing System Engineering
> Iowa State University
> Ames, Iowa
>___________________________________________________e-mail vinch@iastate.edu 
>****************************************************************************

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar ?
Keywords: bahasa indonesia
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:54:58 GMT

smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh) writes:

...
>  This is a serious issue. last time iwas back in Indonesia 
> i try the indonesian camputer nagazines. theuses of words 
>  are hoorible. it seems that some Chauvinist try to 
> Indonesianize all the computer term. 
>   Before we all go into deep discussion. consider few points.
> somtimes there is just no indonesian word for the term
>  so why not borrow it and utilize it. i t will richen our
> language. not instaed creating more words that just sound
>  awfull. 

That's my main question : how do we borrow or utilize it.
Mestinya ada suatu kaidah. Kalau tidak, masing-masing menggunakan
cara sendiri-sendiri jadi malah pusing.
Sebagai contoh, "cursor". Bisa kita ambil dengan menggunakan
bunyi yang sama, jadinya "kursor". Atau bisa juga kita biarkan
"cursor" tapi huruf "c" dibaca dengan dengan lafal indonesia.

Sampai sekarang saya masih menggunakan tulisan campur aduk,
artinya yang enak terdengarnya dalam bahasa Indonesia, dan
tulisannya tidak jauh berbeda ya saya Indonesiakan. Contohnya
kursor itu. Beberapa kata lain masih menggunakan huruf dicetak
miring. Tapi hasilnya .... banyak sekali cetakan miringnya.

Saya kira masalah ini tidak terbatas pada bidang komputer saja
tetapi dalam bidang ilmu lainnya.

Sebagai tambahan pekerjaan rumah :

advanced user =
argument =           (as in   function(argument) )
binary file =
carriage return =
cracker =
editor =
environment variable =
full screen =
hacker =
home directory =
hypertext =
... nanti saya sambung lagi.

salam,
Budi


-- 
Budi Rahardjo <Budi_Rahardjo@UManitoba.Ca>
Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
Xref: sparky alt.culture.indonesia:397 soc.culture.portuguese:2219
From: ze@carson.u.washington.edu (Jose Magalhaes)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Noticias na soc.culture.french
Date: 16 Nov 92 08:17:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov16.081753.28600
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Ola',

	Para os menos atentos (os outros que me desculpem) e interessados em
receber noticias sobre o que se passa no mundo (nao se confunda com USA :) ),
chamava a atencao um "posting" que e' feito diariamente na soc.culture.french
sob o titulo "Revue du .... (dia)"  pela Embaixada de Franc,a em Washington
(para quando uma delicadeza semelhante da nossa Embaixada? "Just dreaming!"
Felizmente ganhamos aos franceses doutra maneira: eles nao teem um Rui Crespo.
Obrigado Rui Crespo).
	Aqui fica o inicio dum desses "postings"

Article: 15825 of soc.culture.french
Newsgroups: soc.culture.french
Subject: Revue du 12 novembre

===========================================
        DIRECTION DE LA PRESSE 
 DE L'INFORMATION ET DE LA COMMUNICATION 
 ET LE MINISTERE DES AFFAIRES ETRANGERES 
BULLETIN TRANSMIS PAR LE SERVICE DE PRESSE 
       ET LA MISSION SCIENTIFIQUE 
 DE L'AMBASSADE DE FRANCE A WASHINGTON.
===========================================

SELECTION DES NOUVELLES DU 12 NOVEMBRE 1992
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

- L'AVIATION ISRAELIENNE A LANCE hier soir un raid contre une 
habitation du village de Saddikine, dans le sud du Liban. Aucune victime
etc. etc.

	Abrac,os,
-Ze' Magalhaes
 
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: okidz@ccs.northeastern.edu (Oki D Zakaria)
Subject: Membentuk kata dengan "ng".
Keywords: BI 
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:50:27 GMT


Dalam kamus umum bahasa Indonesia-Inggeris, oleh Prof. Drs. S. Wojowasito,
terdapat beberapa entri (entry) yang diawali denga bunyi "ng". Kalau dilihat 
lebih dekat, nampaknya kata-kata tersebut bukanlah asli bahasa Indonesia, 
akan tetapi bentukan dari bahasa daerah. Berikut ini beberapa contohnya:

ngambek -> angry. Ini mestinya dari bahasa Sunda dengan kata asal ambek.
ngibing -> to dance < ibing.
ngawur -> (to do things) without any reason. Ini tentunya dari bahasa Jawa
          dengan kata asal "awur" (disebar, diacak-acak).
ngijon -> to buy/sell forward (?) < ijon.
nggak -> no. Saya pikir ini dari bahasa Jawa juga. Dari "tidak" yang dibunyi-
         kan "ndak", akhirnya menjadi "nggak".

Berhubung kata tersebut sudah ada di dalam kamus, saya pikir sah saja
untuk mengatakan bahwa kata-kata tersebut adalah bahasa Indonesia.

Pertanyaan saya: "Bolehkah kita membentuk kata semacam itu dari kata asing
(bahasa Inggeris)?"

Misalnya:
print -> ngeprint. (Contoh: Ngeprint berkas PostScript di LaserWriter.)
run -> 'ngerun' -> ngeran. (Contoh: Ngeran perakit Pascal.)
view -> 'ngeview' -> ngeviu. (Contoh: Ngeviu gambar-gambar JPEG.)

Aneh? Opo tumon? Ah, saya kan hanya melihat apa yang ada di kamus. Memang
benar apa yang ada didalam kamus bukannya siap dipakai dalam segala
situasi. Tapi saya pikir 'awalan' "ng" itu cukup sangkil (efektif?) dalam
membentuk kata baru. Protes? Monggo Mas...


Oki
okidz@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: sgj@po.CWRU.Edu (Sri G. Junus)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: <croons>
Date: 18 Nov 1992 04:59:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, isae@IASTATE.EDU (ISU Boy !!!!!) says:

>In article <1ea6roINNab@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, sgj@po.CWRU.Edu (Sri G. Junus)
>writes:
>> Sometimes songs like "Burung Kakaktua," "Bintang Kejora," "Bintang Kecil,"
>> "Burung Kutilang," or "Tamasya dengan Becak" came into my head and I
>                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  Hmmm never heard of this song before. Is it new? 

Whoa!  I learned that song while I was in a kindergarten. :)

"Saya mau tamasya berkeliling-keliling kota,
 Hendak melihat-lihat keramaian yang ada.
 Saya panggilkan becak, kereta tak bertuan.
 Becak!  Becak!  Coba bawa saya."


-- 

"Anything that thinks logically can be fooled by something else that
thinks at least as logically as it does." -- _Mostly Harmless_
From: share!kst@aloft.att.com
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Indonesianized Computerese
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:06:11 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The following is a partial list of the terminology translation
collected during the discussions in forming the Scientific
Indonesian technical publication.  It is shown here for
comparison and discusion,  and does not in any way imply my
personal endorsement or objection.

 -- Khesing.The@ATT.com

===============================================================
artificial intelligence:  kecerdasan buatan
bit-error rate:  laju galat bit
breadth first search:  pencarian keluasan awal
cache:  kas
channel:  saluran
cluster:  kumpulan
cluster method:  metoda klaster
cognitive science:  ilmu kognitif
data path:  alur data
decision theory:  teori keputusan 
delay time:  waktu tunda
depth first search:  pencarian kedalaman awal
expert system shell:  selongsong (kerak?) sistem pakar 
graph:  graf
heuristics:  heristik
image recognition:  pengenalan citra
inference engine:  mesin inferens/ mesin penalar (?)
knowledge base:  basis pengetahuan
lexical:  leksikal
locality:  kelokalan
machine translation:  penerjemahan mesin
modulo-2 addition:  penambahan berlebih 2 penjumlahan modulo-2
multiple access communication:  komunikasi raih rangkap
natural language processing:  pemrosesan bahasa alami
pattern recognition:  pengenalan pola
processor:  pemroses
production rule:  aturan produksi 
real-time:  waktu-nyata
rule base:  basis aturan
scripts:  naskah
self-organizing system:  sistem swatata
semantic network:  jejala/jaringan semantik
signal-to-noise ratio:  nisbah isyarat-derau
software house:  balai perangkat-lunak.
time-invariant channel:  saluran tak berubah waktu
virtual memory:  memori semu
===============================================================
From: sgj@po.CWRU.Edu (Sri G. Junus)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar ?
Date: 22 Nov 1992 06:09:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, okidz@ccs.northeastern.edu (Oki D Zakaria) says:

>In article <1em76gINNf7f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> sgj@po.CWRU.Edu (Sri G. Junus) writes:
>>bagaimana?
>>
>Thank you for shedding some light on me...
>Cuma sayangnya, dengan penjelasan itu saya masih tak menemukan padanannya 
>computing.

saya sendiri juga masih mencari.

>>calculation = perhitungan

>Dalam kepala saya, kata "hitung" selalu mengingatkan "jari-jemari". Sehingga
>saya pikir "hitung" itu lebih tepat untuk "count".
>Kalau calculation = perhitungan, (ada kemungkinan) orang menerjemahkan
>"Saya akan membuat perhitungan denganmu!" menjadi "I will have a
>calculation with you!"

<slapping knees, laughing>
hehehee... lucu juga rasanya.  tapi saya rasa kita memang tidak bisa
selamanya menterjemahkan kata per kata baik dari bahasa inggris ke bahasa
indonesia atau sebaliknya.  sebagai contoh, walaupun saya rasa tidak
begitu tepat tapi bisa dipakai di sini, idiom 'dog day afternoon' tentu
artinya akan lain sekali kalau kita terjemahkan kata per kata. :)


-- 

"Anything that thinks logically can be fooled by something else that
thinks at least as logically as it does." -- _Mostly Harmless_
From: regius@cs.utexas.edu (Regius S. Gunawan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: indoneisanized computer terms
Date: 23 Nov 1992 10:16:34 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov22.173225.45027@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>if they are in 'foreign' language, we can write them in italic as being done
>commonly.
eek!  I thought we have at least a 'standard' manual of style on
fonts/etc for papers back home, which doesn't really want italics
for every foreign word.

>and, IF we want to translate these terms into bahasa indonesia, dont
>you think (for the shake of consistency) we have to do the same in the
>programming language.
Anyone remember (or even heard of) 'JT', some kind of ms-dos clone
rewritten in Indonesian?  It freaks me out ^_^, and seems that it
does the same thing to others (ie. never continue :)

>	KALAU JIKA (kondisi) MAKA
elseif?  why not 'KALAU TIDAK JIKA (kondisi) MAKA'

>kindda weird ? 
And you're using PASCAL-like syntax.  Imagine an 'adapted' C
language ^_^ (esp the library functions :)

>h siahaan

In short, I agree with Mr. Siahaan.
From: andri@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: RE:RE:Himbauan buat Rekan rekan
Date: 14 Nov 92 19:27:25 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Selamat Datang ke Dunia Sastera Indonesia.
Pramudya Ananta Toer boleh jadi penulis Indonesia yang terbaik saat
ini.
Sayang buku buku karangannya lebih mudah dijumpai disini ketimbang di
Indonesia.
Kalau saya tak salah ada enam buku yang ditulisnya setelah bebas dari
TP Pulau BURU. Seluruhnya sudah diterbitkan dalam Bahasa
Inggeris(Penguin). Karya karyanya sebelum ditahan tidak ISTIMEWA. Saya
sudah baca "Diah : SiManis Bergigi Emas". Biasa saja.
From: 2huxvalved@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Majulah Timor-Timur
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:51:47 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


     Berita dari Seaseal mengatakan bahwa pemimpin Fretelin, Xanana
telah menyerahkan diri..Semoga dengan peristiwa ini, TimTim akan
cepat berkembang.....

       MERDEKA


Bagong



Xref: sparky alt.culture.indonesia:403 soc.culture.portuguese:2230
From: ze@carson.u.washington.edu (Jose Magalhaes)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Re: Willy Brandt segundo Ma'rio Soares
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:19:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov16.181923.12990
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Hi,

	I followed-up my previous message and forgot that it would be sent
to this newsgroup. For this mistake I apologize and want to make clear that
it was not my intention to invade your newsgroup with postings that do not 
concern you and are written in Portuguese/French.

	I would also like to thank those who notified me about this mistake
because I would otherwise not be able to realize the trouble caused made since
in this university we do not receive this newsgroup. (By the way, may be one
of you can solve this problem since I am sure the Indonesian students here 
would like to be able to read it). 

	Best regards,
-Ze' Magalha~es      
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: ftandiar@IASTATE.EDU (Fredy Tandiary)
Subject: College basketball
Reply-To: ftandiar@IASTATE.EDU (Fredy Tandiary)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:08:37 GMT


Hi folks,

I am wandering if any body knows how the basketball teams 
played in National Invitation Tournament (NIT) got selected.
Are those teams from the last year NCAA top 32? or just
randomly selected?

By the way, Iowa State Cyclone advance to the second round and
will play on Friday with Florida State. The game will be on
ESPN. 

ftandiar@iastate.edu
From: andrean@cs.utexas.edu (Andre A. Nurwono)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar ?
Date: 20 Nov 1992 03:07:27 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: saltillo.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: bahasa indonesia

>object-oriented technology = teknologi berorientasi obyek
>object-oriented language = bahasa berorientasi obyek

problem :
	Masih kurang populer, bisa dijadikan teknologi yang berorientasi
	obyek, bahasa yang berorientasi obyek.

	teknologi object-oriented
	bahasa object-oriented
actually sounds a little better (but this is subjective).

>>computation, computational, computing, etc =
>>(seperti dalam numerical computation, computational geometry, computing center)
>Bagaimana kalau:
>numerical computation = komputasi numerik
>computing center = pusat komputasi

problem :
	computation center = pusat komputasi

	computing center = pusat ??? komputing ?

we need a translation to the base word, 'compute'.
Masalahnya komputer, komputasi, semua tak ada kata dasarnya.
Compute = hitung ?
Imposes a few problems : computation -> 'peng-hitung-an'.
			 computer -> 'peng-hitung'.
And I never see anybody that writes a computer as a 'peng-hitung'.
calculator is from 'calculate'. So is calculation.
so what is calculate in Indonesian ? 'Hitung' comes to mind again.

computing center, computation center, etc, is always flexible
in english. Creating an Indonesian version of it would make it
unclear as the Indonesian version would have some other
analogous meaning in *Indonesian*.

-- 
Andre Nurwono               | "Ho, haha, guard, turn, dodge, parry, spin, ha,
andrean@cs.utexas.edu       |  thrust... (BOINNNG!)"  - Daffy Duck
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.portuguese
From: rgc@eagle.inesc.pt (Rui Gustavo Crespo)
Subject: Re: Noticias na soc.culture.french
Organization: INESC
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:07:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.081753.28600@u.washington.edu>, ze@carson.u.washington.edu (Jose Magalhaes) writes:
|> 
|> Ola',
|> 
|> 	Para os menos atentos (os outros que me desculpem) e interessados em
|> receber noticias sobre o que se passa no mundo (nao se confunda com USA :) ),
|> chamava a atencao um "posting" que e' feito diariamente na soc.culture.french
|> sob o titulo "Revue du .... (dia)"  pela Embaixada de Franc,a em Washington
|> (para quando uma delicadeza semelhante da nossa Embaixada? "Just dreaming!"

As embaixadas portuguesas em todo o mundo costuman receber um "fax" com um resumo
de noticias. No entanto, o tipo de noticias e' mais institucional (estilo
"Presidente Mario Soares discursou em ...", ou "Primeiro Ministro Cavaco Silva
deslocou-se a ...").
Duvido que os leitores da scp estejam interesados nesse tipo de noticias e
duvido ainda mais que os organismos oficiais mandem NB's :-)

|> Felizmente ganhamos aos franceses doutra maneira: eles nao teem um Rui Crespo.
|> Obrigado Rui Crespo).

Nao tens nada que agradecer! Mandar um "post" e' a minha forma de aliviar a
pressao da recta final de escrita da tese...

|> 	Abrac,os,
|> -Ze' Magalhaes

All the best...

---Crespo
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: opurbo@sun1.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Onno W. Purbo)
Subject: Re: Multiculture (Re: Is there a solution for East Timor?)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:45:59 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.171632.19153@inesc.pt> jlb@thor.inesc.pt (Jose' Luis B. Borbinha) writes:
>rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
>: Religion ? We have different religions in different areas. Have you
>                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^
>: heard of Bali ? They have different religion too.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>yeah, and they have been fighting for their independence from Indonesia too.
>     
>: regards,
>: -- budi
>
>regards,
>
>-- 
> Jose' Luis B. Borbinha | INESC - Inst. de Eng. de Sistemas e Computadores
>  E-mail: jlb@inesc.pt  |         Rua Alves Redol, 9
>  Phone:  351.1.3100305 |         Apartado 10105
>  Fax:    351.1.525843  |         1017 Lisboa CODEX - PORTUGAL



Justify your statement.
We need facts - not just handwaving arguments.
- Onno


ps. FYI, my room-mate is a Balinese.
From: jya00@duey.testeng.amdahl.com (John Y. Arrasjid O32-2118 x68180)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: Indonesian pop music
Keywords: Indonesian pop
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:51:15 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

One more to add to the list would be Chrisye. He has several albums out.
I currently have
two. The first is Maafkan. I forgot the name of the second but it is a
newer cassette with only
four songs on it. He does mostly slow songs.

There is one other group that does very catchy pop music. I believe the
name is Yogjakarta or
it could be the name of the album. It's available on cd as well as
cassette. It's loaned out right
now so when I get it back I'll post the full name and title.

john
--
John Y. Arrasjid
Amdahl Corporation, 1250 E. Arques Ave., M/S 140, Sunnyvale, CA 94088
+1 408 746-8180
Internet: jya00@amdahl.com or jya00@testeng.amdahl.com
Amail   : jya00@amail.amdahl.com
Usenet  : {sun,uunet,decwrl,attunix,hplabs}!amdahl!walt!jya00
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: Univ. of Maryland & David Letterman
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:59:24 GMT

2hujrabbi@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
...
>	I'm wondering how many Indonesians like "Late Night with David
>Letterman" I found that not many of them like it. Anybody wants to
>comment to this subject is welcomed.

At first I didn't understand most of the jokes. They are too
Americans. I mean if you don't know Dan Quayle, you don't know
why people laugh when somebody said  potato(e) :-)
He's obnoxious, but I like him anyway. (10 ten and stupid tricks :-)
There's a letterman newsgroup, btw.

The question is would the show be popular if it is broadcasted in
Indonesia ?

-- budi
-- 
Budi Rahardjo <Budi_Rahardjo@UManitoba.Ca>
Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: anto@donau.et.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto)
Subject: Re: Netrek (Was: Let's talk about games !!!!!!)
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:24:47 GMT

From article <lgh92eINN12v@langtry.cs.utexas.edu>, by andrean@cs.utexas.edu (Andre A. Nurwono):
>>>You don't know what you are missing!  :)
> Yep. If you've never played realtime network games before,
> this is awesome !
> 
>>   What are you trying to do?  Get an all Indonesian netrek game ?
> 
> Hehehe. Why not ? HEY ! We could FORM an ALL-INDONESIAN Netrek team!!!
> I wonder what ranks we could get in tourneys.
> 
> BTW does anybody know what the INL schedule is for this week ?
> (INL = Intercollegiate Netrek League) ...
> I personally find this replacing any sports shows on TV heh heh heh.
> But then again, I don't watch TV that much. heh heh.
> 
> -- 
> Andre Nurwono               | "Ho, haha, guard, turn, dodge, parry, spin, ha,
> andrean@cs.utexas.edu       |  thrust... (BOINNNG!)"  - Daffy Duck

Do I miss something? What the hell is Netrek? Elaborate, please....

Anto

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: ftandiar@IASTATE.EDU (Fredy Tandiary)
Subject: Re: Univ. of Maryland & David Letterman
Reply-To: ftandiar@IASTATE.EDU (Fredy Tandiary)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:35:04 GMT


> 
> The question is would the show be popular if it is broadcasted in
> Indonesia ?
> 
> -- budi
> -- 
> Budi Rahardjo <Budi_Rahardjo@UManitoba.Ca>
> Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba

I don't think the show would be popular if broadcast in Indonesia,
for one thing, you have to know english and american 'slank'
to understand them. Another is that most of the jokes are taken
from events in United States that may not be important to those
in Indonesia (or at least not interested). 
As Budi says, it takes time to adapt to the jokes. The reason is
because the jokes contain high sarchasm materials. And in 
Indonesian culture, sarchasm is not polite and people tend to
avoid it (i.e. they will not understand if a joke suppose to
be sarchatic).

ftandiar@iastate.edu
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