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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:15:34 -0700
From:         Paul Lowe 787-3883 <PLOWE@UCRAC1.UCR.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Windowserver weirdness...

Hi Kelly,

	Have you tried looking at /etc/ttys and verifying that
everything there is correct?  I just solved a WindowServer wierdness
problem on one of my machines by copying over a 'virgin' copy of
this file from another machine.  I was able to get in by way of
the single user mode.


Paul
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:38:04 EDT
From:         Sergei Naumov <serge@SLOTH.ASTRO.UNC.EDU>

Hello, everybody.
I would like to know, is there the version of Mathematica for
Sun and SunView ( or for X)? If there is, please inform about
an opportunity to get it!
Thanks,
	Serge	serge@sloth.astro.unc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:17:21 EDT
From:         RICARDO@VMTECMEX.BITNET
Subject:      please Unsuscribe me

please unsuscribe me from your mail list next-L
my new adress is ricardo@felix.cem.itesm.mx

thanks.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:19:00 CDT
From:         "John N. Alegre" <alegrej@ANDANTE.MN.ORG>
Subject:      Using News Grazer to read archives.

Is there anyway to use News Grazer to read the "flat file" text
files of comp.sys.next.whatever that are archived at the
various ftp sites?  Since the digests that used to come with this
list have stopped (I can understand why, the volume is much to
large for a LISTSERV), I have been ftping the archives from sonata.

I would like to use News Grazer to read and archive some of the
messages.


Is there a way to do this?

Thanks in advance
---
John N. Alegre
Andante Systems

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:48:00 PST
From:         SCOTT HANDLEY <SHANDLEY@SCU.BITNET>
Subject: NeXT Station & Laser Printer FOR SALE!!!

FOR SALE -- NeXT Station!!!

Features: Motorolla 68040 25mhz CPU, 105mb Hard Drive, 8mb RAM, Full Page
          Display (Shades of Grey), Display Postscript - TRUE WYSIWYG,
          Motorolla Digital Signal Processor, Multitasking, 2 Serial Ports,
          Thin & Twisted Pair Ethernet Built-in, Keyboard, Mouse,
          2.88mb 3 1/2" Floppy Drive

Software: SoftPC - IBM 286 simulating software; Lotus Improv - the innovative
          spreadsheet software by the makers of 1-2-3; Mathematica;
          WriteNow - word processing software; plus much, much more!

Reason for Selling: I have changed schools - from the School of Engineering
                    to the School of Business.  Not that this computer
                    wouldn't be beneficial in business either, just that I
                    don't see myself using the computer to its fullest
                    potential.

Additional Hardware: 400 dpi Laser Printer

Asking Price : $4800 obo

Send inquiries to my email account: shandley@scuacc.scu.edu

<or> if you would like more information call me at (408) 296-4543.

Thank you,
Scott Handley
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:42:20 PDT
From:         Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@FRI-NXT-PAGIOLA.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: harddisk space

You might try Squash (by Agog, sold thru NeXTConnection).  Its not
exactly the same as Stacker or Superstor, but helps conserve space.
You can set it to automatically compress files that have been
inactive for more than a given length of time (and to do this at a
time when you're not working, so it doesn't slow you down).  The
resulting squashed files can still be launched by double-clicking:
Squash will uncompress them and pass them on to the relevant app.

You can also use it to archive large bundles of files to multiple
floppies.  And if you compress folders rather than single files, cvan
extract single files you need without uncompressing the whole folder.

There's a demo version, I believe, on Sonata (probably in
2.0-release/demos)

No connection to them; just a happy customer.

---
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:28:00 EST
From:         SCHAML@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Decoding "garbage" in mail

>list.  There are people on here that perfer to read their mail elsewhere,
>can't get external mail to their NeXT, or don't have constant access to the
>console to be able to see your nifty fonts and sounds.
>
     ...or don't even have a NeXT machine, like myself.  I thought those
uuencoded messages were NeXTMail, but I wasn't sure.  I have no way of
reading them.

Mark Schafer
SCHAML@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Morehead State University
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:51:18 PDT
From:         "Eric P. Scott" <eps@TOASTER.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Can Someone Please Explain (Simply) Why...

NeXT-L is a LISTSERV-controlled mail exploder.  This system is
written in a braindead language that runs under a braindead
operating system on braindead computer hardware.  It gets
translated (improperly in some cases) from ASCII into a
completely different character set, and then back again.  Lines
longer than 80 characters get mangled (guaranteed!) so NeXT
Mail (even without attachments) WILL be corrupted, and pretty
much ALL header lines will vanish.  Messages longer than a
certain size (typically 100,000 characters) won't survive (NeXT
Mail with attachments can easily exceed this limit).

Welcome to the exciting world of IBM mainframe computing.

Moral of the story: don't EVER try to send NeXT Mail to NeXT-L.

					-=EPS=-
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:49:13 MET
From:         Tilly Peters <U303006@HNYKUN11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Tektronics Emulator for the NeXT
              25 Aug 92 16:32:53 GMT-0600 from <gary@PABLO.MUSIC.NWU.EDU>

Gary,

I used the program Communicae to emulate a tektronic (the same program I use
for my communication with my modem). It worked fine.
If you are interested in more information I'am glad to provide it to you.

Henny Poort
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:34:19 PDT
From:         stephan@ADAMATION.COM
Subject:      Shipping scheduling app. for NeXT

This e-mail message is in response to a request Conrad Geiger at NeXT relayed to
me regarding calendar apps. for the NeXT platform.  Below is a description of
 our
group scheduling program, What's Happening?.  It was designed for network users
but is also extremely functional for single users.  A single user copy of What's
Happening? retails in the US for $295.  Network pricing varies depending on
 network
configuration and number of nodes.  What's Happening? can be purchased through
NeXTConnection.  Government and education institutions can purchase the program
directly from Adamation at a 30% discount.


Contact NeXTConnection for pricing and availability and myself if you have
 product
questions.


Best regards,

Stephan Adams
Adamation
1435 Center St.

Oakland, CA 94607
ph. 510.452.5252
e-mail: stephan@adamation.com


Product Description for What's Happening?

What's Happening? is a powerful, full-featured, yet user-friendly scheduler for
individual users and groups.   What's Happening? has the most extensive group
calendaring features available for NeXTSTEP.  You can schedule events for
 multiple
people, view calendars for a group in several graphical formats and easily
 locate
mutually available time slots for group meetings.


What's Happening? runs on top of a powerful relational database engine.  The
 engine
is transparent to the user but is responsible for the advanced group scheduling
capabilities of What's Happening? and many of the sophisticated search features.
Installing What's Happening? on a complex network is as simple as on a single
computer.  You can create events that are private, readable or writable, giving
 you
control of which events others can view and edit.

What's Happening? was designed to provide an extensive range of calendar views
 in
both textual and graphical formats.  There are textual Day, Week, and Month
 views
that list events by their titles and times.  There are graphical Group Day,
 Group
Week, and Group Month views that display bar graphs of events and make group
scheduling easy.

Ease-of-use is central in the design of What's Happening?.  Scheduling an event
 is as
simple as typing into a time slot.  To-Dos are displayed separately from events
 and
carry forward till they are completed.  Scheduling a group is as simple as
 dragging a
bar from one hour to another and entering the title of the event.  The intuitive
 interface
allows a relative beginner as well as the experienced user to learn how to use
 What's
Happening? quickly.


What's Happening? gives you the flexibility to customize the displayed time span
 and
number of events displayed per time period.  Other unique features of What's
Happening? include annotating events with voice comments and attaching files
 from
the File Viewer to these records. What's Happening? is equipped with a Tickler
system that verbally and visually reminds you of events, keeping you abreast of
important events.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:19:23 JST
From:         Chanboredon Sebastien <sebas@NAKAGW.NAKA.HITACHI.CO.JP>
Subject:      Mac->NeXT font converter ?

	Hi everyone,

Does anybody knows about a program to use Mac fonts on a NeXT ? I know this
question may have been asked several times, but I've not been on the net for
a long time, so please pardon me.
	I would like to know if such an application exists, and where to
retrieve it ( by mail or ftp, but I would prefer mail).

	Thanks for your help,

		Seb.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:39:46 EDT
From:         Steve Howie <scotty@PIRANHA.CS.UOGUELPH.CA>
Subject:      Re: Decoding "garbage" in mail

It was suggested earlier in this list that if someone *ABSOLUTELY*
POSITIVELY * MUST * send NeXTMail / attachments that they clearly
indicate this fact in the 'subject:' line of their message. This
would allow the recipient to 'whack' the message right off the bat.
Without having to actually read the message.


As one who has occasionally been guilty of sending out this type of
message, I think this is would be the most appropriate plan of attack
for NeXTMail -> NeXTMail messages, otherwise, look for the big
triangle around the mailbox on the 'deliver' button and think twice
before clicking it.

Scotty
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:13:32 PDT
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From:         Gregory Miller - Inherent <gam@INHERENT.TECHLAW.COM>
Subject:      Can Someone Please Explain (Simply) Why...

	Gentle Readers:
	Can someone (once again; I failed to keep a copy) please
explain to me (so I may pass along the explanantion to others here)
why NeXTmail (specifically, attachments) cannot be sent to the server
or some mail exploders out there in Net land?

	The argument has been handed down that those mail servers
simply run sendmail which merely accepts text and sends text.  When
it get's a NeXT mail file, the mail file is appropriately
tar'd/compressed/uuencoded, and the sendmail daemon just turns it
around to the rest of the list using an alias file.  It "does the
right thing", and doesn't touch the contents, so there is no reason
why it should not work; those with NEXT's should properly see it;
those without, WILL, of course, see the garbage.  All we're concerned
with here, is why NeXT's can't see it either.

	WELL, THE FACT IS, even with a NeXT we still see the tar
garbage.  The question is, Why, and what do gateways and other
machines in the pathways out there do to cause the garbage to leak
through...EVEN TO NeXT machines?


	Thanks so much.
	Gregory Miller
	gam@techlaw.com

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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:18:04 PDT
From:         emezias@PINOLE1.COM
Subject:      Software inquiry

I have two young friends, 6 and 8 years old, who are interested in
some software for the NeXT machine.  If anyone knows of some good
EDUCATIONAL software, rather than games, could you please let me know
about it.  Thanks!

Elizabeth Mezias
emezias@pinole1.com
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Subject: Calendar Software
From: boozer@einstein.sfasu.edu (Linda Boozer)
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:44:12 CST

I am looking for a software program to use on the NeXT to make calendars
for distribution in our office.  The software I had used on the Mac was
CalendarMaker.  I have Datebook and Calendoscope but neither use the
format I need.  I need a monthly layout and the ability to write in each
"box" (day) and use of different fonts for each "box" would be nice.  If
anyone is aware of such a program please respond to:
  F_BOOZERLJ@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:39:16 UTC+2
From:         "lisa::mrgate::\"AM::BRAITH\""@FRPERP51.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Calendar Software

From:   NAME: Braith [336,35] <BRAITH@AM@LISA>
To:     NAME: MX%"NEXT-L@GREARN.BITNET" <MX%"NEXT-L@GREARN.BITNET"@MRGATE@LISA>

Would any of this calendar software be capable of doing a fairly large
institutional timetable [educational institution] or, to put the question
another way, anyone know of good software for doing this sort of thing?
Preferably PC or VAX VMS
Keith Braithwaite
Univ Perpignan
France
From: sven@JACOBS2.CSS.MSU.EDU (Sven Bohm)
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Subject: verify ntpd
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:24:10 GMT
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Hi,

How does one verify that the ntpd deamon is working correctly?


When I use the -l switch it logs the startup message and that it set
the local clock, but nothing further. According to the man pages it
should log a message about every two minutes.


I have tried to set up the system with an (local) internet
timeserver, as suggested in the NeXT Adm Manual. I have also obtained
RFC-1059. Syncronize from the Preference panel also works.


However ntpdc (any valid host) just cranks along for a few seconds
and then returns without printing any information.

Thanks,
---
Sven Bohm
sven@jacobs2.css.msu.edu (NeXTMail)
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================================================================
DATE:      THURSDAY, 09/10/92 16:11:02 ET
FROM:      Beth Katz   <DHUTCHEN @ MILLERSV>
SUBJECT:   Re: Calendar Software
TO:        NeXT discussion list   <NEXT-L @ BROWNVM>
================================================================
When I want to create a monthly calendar (or four month's worth
to include in a syllabus), I do the following.

- Open Date (from Demos) and resize the window to an appropriate size
- Use Copy PS to make a postscript copy of the month picture
- Paste the copy into Diagram!
- Add text, pictures, whatever to the Diagram! version

This may take a few tries if you want two or more months to match in
either the size of the calendar or the size of the days within the
calendar. Turning on the grid in Diagram! while placing the copied
calendars helps.

For simple monthly calendars, this approach works and doesn't cost
anything for new software.

Beth Katz   (dhutchen@millersv  is my husband's account but I read it)
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:19:04 -0400
From:         Rich McGhee <rmcghee@FNMA.COM>
Subject:      Re: Calendar Software

You might want to take a look at PencilMeIn.  I like it.

---
Rich McGhee
Federal National Mortgage Association
3900 Wisconsin Avenue, 4S-2H
Washington DC 20016
NeXTMail: rmcghee@fnma.COM
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:11:39 PDT
From:         Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@FRI-NXT-PAGIOLA.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Decoding "garbage" in mail

Edwin (edwintam@chkgw.attmail.com) writes
> > I suggest that unless there is a serious reason for
> > sending NeXTmail to the list, it should be sent as plain
> > text ASCII as a courtesy to those who are not reading it on
> > NeXT machines.
> Partly agreed, but still, NeXTMail should be encouraged.

Yes, NeXTMail should be encouraged in direct mailing, where the
recipient reads mail on the NeXT.

But NeXTMail should NOT be encouraged on this mailing list, since it
is always mutilated by the gateways.  EVERYBODY gets it trashed,
whether they're reading it on a NeXT or not.  So until that problem
is resolved, avoid NeXTMail on this mailing list.

---
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:39:15 GMT+0300
From:         Ivan Strand <ivan@XENIAL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Calendar Software

Hi,

If you have FrameMaker 3.0  there is a calendar template which would
seem to do what you ssek. You will need to mess with it a little to
figure out how to change month starting dates and highlighting, but
it is easy to use once you learn. You can find it in:


FrameDocs/TableSamples/Calendar

ivan strand
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:32:09 PDT
From:         "Jay P. Weidner" <jpw@MINIVAN.VETMED.WSU.EDU>
Subject:      Fonts for HP LaserJet IIISI

Reply To:  jpw@minivan.vetmed.wsu.edu

Hi,

I am trying to use NeXT's in a mixed environment with HP Unix machines
and DOS PC's.  PC's (old, slow XT's) using NCSA Telnet act as VT100
terminals and log onto the HP's and run WordPerfect.  Printing is to a
Hewlett-Packard LaserJet IIISI that is attached to the ethernet via a
"JetDirect" card in the printer, which allows HP's and NeXT's on the
network to print to the IIISI as a remote printer.

We have nearly everything working with one exception.  I'd like for a
WordPerfect document to print from either platform identically.
Unfortunately, the fonts I have available for the HP-UX version of
WordPerfect 5.0 are not the same as those in WordPerfect for NeXT.
After selecting IIISI Postscript Mode for the printer in HP-UX WP 5.0,
the following fonts are available (these are the same as the standard
fonts available on any HP LaserJet III series printer):

  CG Times (Scalable)
  CG Times Bold (Scalable)
  CG Times Bold Italic (Scalable)
  CG Times Italic (Scalable)
  Courier 10cpi
  Courier 10cpi Bold
  Courier 10cpi Italic
  Courier 12cpi
  Courier 12cpi Bold
  Courier 12cpi Italic
  ITC Zapf Dingbats (PS)
  ITC Zapf Dingbats 100
  ITC Zapf Dingbats 200
  ITC Zapf Dingbats 300
  Line Draw 10cpi
  Line Draw 12cpi
  Line Printer 16.67cpi
  Univers (Scalable)
  Univers Bold (Scalable)
  Univers Bold Italic (Scalable)
  Univers Condensed
  Univers Condensed Bold
  Univers Condensed Bold Italic
  Univers Condensed Italic
  Univers Italic (Scalable)

I would prefer to continue using the "CG Times" family of fonts, since
most of our DOS users are familiar with this font.  (I lied.  I'd
rather dump the 100+ DOS machines and replace them with NeXT's, but
the budget doesn't agree).  This font is "close, but no cigar" to the
"Times Roman" font that ships default on the NeXT.  There is just
enough difference that numbers of words on lines don't always match,
even though I set both to size 12 point.

Does anyone know where I can get a "CG Times" font for the NeXT that
would be compatible with the built in "CG Times" on the HP series III
printers?  I know that Right Brain and NeXT Connection sell fonts and
will try them tomorrow.  I tried earlier today, but they were closed.

If anyone has a better idea, please let me know.

Thanks in advance,

Jay P. Weidner, DVM
Dept. of Veterinary Clinical Medicine & Surgery
McCoy Hall
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-6610

Phone:  (509)335-0812 or (509)335-0711

FAX:    (509)335-0811    (This is a Fax Modem, please send
                          high resolution mode if possible)

e-mail:  jpw @ minivan.vetmed.wsu.edu  (NeXT Mail Accepted)
    or   jpw @ pgavin1.vetmed.wsu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:52:25 -0500
From:         "Kelly Cunningham Random Deviate" <F_CNNGHAMJK@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>
Subject:      Windowserver weirdness...

I tried to post this yesterday, I hope it doesn't show up twice...



Hello all,

Everything was fine until a reboot...Then, I needed to login as root.

           !!!!!!!!!BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Each time I try to login as root the Windowserver dies(?) after Terminal
autolauches, but before the Workspace appears.  Each attempt to login as root
shows up as a root login when the "who" command is given from a different
account.  (One for each Terminal autolauch?)

Two other machines developed a similar (post reboot) problem, so I think I
inherited the problem from elsewhere.  (Like a fool, I didn't concern myself
until it happened on MY machine.)

Any and all help appreciated.  Please respond by e-mail and I'll post the
suggestions/solution for posterity.

                 These NeXTs sure do keep you entertained.


Randomly, Kelly Cunningham
<deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu><f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu><jkellyc@tenet.edu>
   NeXTMail (encouraged)       VMS Mail (grudgingly read)    Pine (tolerated)
        Help! I've fallen into network hell and I can't reach my beer!

p.s. I apologize if this looks like a flame, it's not.  I just try not to take
any of this too seriously. Cheers.
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