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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Federal extortion nets helmet law!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:18:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.215703.5870@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell) writes:
|>        How's this for you.  Iowa, that bastion (or something spelled
|>similar to that) of liberty, has no helmet law.  The Federal Government,
|>not to take such things lightly, has decided that Iowa must pass a
|>helmet law or lose several million in highway funds.  Didn't this net
|>us a 55mph speed limit, a 21 drinking age, and all sorts of other
|>bullshit not too long ago?
|
|    If I remember right, the constitution says something about the
|congress shall establish and maintain a federal highway system. 

The only reference to roads that I can find in my copy is this:

	Article I, Section 8. Powers of Congress 
 
	The Congress shall have the power
	.
	.
	7.  To establish post-offices and post-roads
 
I have a lot of trouble seeing how helmet laws, drinking age, or even
a universal 55mph speed limit applies to the establishmet of post 
roads.  In fact, if you construe "establishment" to include 
"maintenance" then I would say the feds should be required by the 
Constitution to pay for ALL of highway maintenance, if indeed the 
particular road is to be used by the US Post Office.  Or they should
be establishing their own road system, for use only by the USPO. 
But this blackmail shit is a clear overstepping of Constitutional
powers.

|I
|don't remember anything about "only in states that pass laws that
|are mandated by the congress but they have no authority to pass
|themselves." Why doesn't some "letter of the law" cop start busting
|politicians on the RICO act? You'd have to hunt a long time to find
|another organisation more into racketeering and corruption.

Couldn't agree more.  But personally, I think the biggest crime 
the Congress and Prez is committing is that of ignoring the tenth
amendment, which limits the powers of the federal government to 
those specifically deliniated by the Constitution.  They seem to
think instead that if the Constitution doesn't specifically FORBID
them from doing something, it's okay.

			Dave Svoboda
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: '72 Supersonic Blue-Smoker....
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:55:40 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

I drove all the way from San Jose to Los Angeles Saturday, and at last
picked up the 1972 Kawasaki H2 Mach IV I've wanted to purchase since 1973.
You see, I had one in '73 for about 2 weeks, and sold it because it almost
killed me. I immediately regretted the sale, but never managed to do anything
about it. Over the years, many motos have come and gone from my garages, but
at last I got the Widow Maker back.

Boy, have motos changed! I had to sit and stare at it for an hour before I
remembered why I used to think they were so beautiful! :-) Its so narrow
compared to current motos that a modern 250 looks wider. I forgot how narrow
tires were back then.... I wouldn't have the rear tire on the front of my
ZX-11 if it was the last tire on earth. Oh, ok, if it WAS the last tire on
earth, and all that prevented me from riding......

Fortunately, this one is all original, with only a few scratches. All the
rubber, chrome, paint, striping, and electrics are original and in excellant
condition. It was drained of fluids and stored since '82, and there isn't
even any corrosion on the aluminum cases. Whoever did it, did it right.

Monday I will get 2-stroke oil, crankcase oil, and mix up some 100 octane
leaded fuel (remember that?) After I bleed the front (single disk) brake
and install a battery, I'll give her a kick and see what happens.

I still need to introduce the ZX-11 to her, but I think they'll get along
just fine. :-)

John

--- GoldED 2.41.B1207+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
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From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Ahhhh, bike fix, but no room at the inn
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:28:36 GMT


Picked up the new R100GS yesterday (yipee!!) and had a wonderful 100 mile run
in the cold and rain bringing it home. Smooth, plenty of grunt, great
visibility, riding position, comfy seat, quick steering and those HEATED 
HANDGRIPS!

For those interested in my new bike decision making process - I was due
for a new bike (a deal I have with my SO - she gets a new car - I get a
new bike) and as I've said before I wanted a traditional boxer for all the
regular reasons. I was intellectually torn between the RS and the RT, trying 
to decide about the practicality of the RT vs. the limited nature of the RS 
and its beautiful lines and paint. Then the wife stepped in and said - why 
was I being so analytical about buying a bike? 

RIGHT! 

Go with your gut, emotional feeling. This ain't a need - it's a want.

So what else could I buy but a GS or a PD? I chose the GS because I want
to use it for primarily commuting and touring rather than off-road stuff - 
so it's primary mission is highway rather than trails. (And of course the
team bumblebee paint is so bizarre - it's beautiful.) Anyway I love the
bike. It's got loads more "personality" than my K100RS (which I'm keeping
for longer trips) although it's certainly down in the power and brakes 
catagories. (BTW: BMW still gives you a three year membership in Cross
Country and a rebate for an MSF course, as well as the owners kit including
carrying bag, helmet cleaner, tire repair kit, a quart of oil and the 
battery charger. And the warranty is still three years.)

So here's the question: since I don't have a garage, I'm trying to
come up with alternatives for keeping my bikes dry and happy for the
short winter. The K bike is in storage, but I'd like to come up with
something for the R bike since it's new. Has anyone had experiences with 
covered trailers or those bike "homes" advertised in the rags? How about 
places to buy used covered trailers?

-John
============================================================================
        John S. Morris  #0316      Rides: K100RS R100GS Cage: 320i 
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,misc.forsale
From: ltp@uswest.com (Halfman-Halfmachine)
Subject: Radar Gun For Sale 
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:42:11 GMT

I have a radar gun that I no longer use and would like to 
see it go to a good home. I don't have any idea what brand
it is. Here's the details:

It looks like a pistol of some sort and has a 3" diameter
barrel. It is cast out of black metal and painted black.
It has 2 switches on it as well as a trigger. One switch
is power and the other is  some kind of sensitivity, but
I'm not sure what. 

It has a 12v cigarette lighter adapter plug on a cord that
has 2 inline fuses; 1-5amp250v and 1-10amp250v. It also
has a deadman  switch (A lock that keeps the trigger engauged
all the time). And finally, it has an LED readout that displays
MPH.

Also included is a portable 12v battery pack, a battery
charger (110v), a dash mount indicator (I've never used it
but it looks like a radar detector)  and a tuning fork
that enables you to calibrate 50 MPH. The battery pack is
great for skiing and motoing :)

I'd like $200.00 for all of it.
Home Phone 303-467-2832 after 7 pm MST

-- 
Larry T. Paine  <|>  ltp@USWest.COM  <|>  (303)541-6148
   DoD #789
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was:Helmets)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:44:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 92Dec12101226@fluent.UUCP, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>
>>Turns out that Cannada has banned infant crawlers and the
>>U.S. may do the same.  Why? Because X number (I can't remember
>>28,000 mabey 2,800? anybody else see this spot) of babies are
>>hurt (burned, braindamaged...) every year in this country.
>>So the AMA (that's the medical one) is trying to get them banned.
>>Even though in all cases it was due to parental neglect.

Sounds exactly like the ATV scare in this country!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alex@csn.org (ALEX MATTHEWS)
Subject: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast. Why? What is your experience?
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:17:32 GMT

In article <1gvp9rINNt4l@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>
>The right pressures for my EX500...
>
>Is there some other rule of thumb that's more appropriate for
>choosing pressures for longevity?

Yes, the rule that says to measure the pressures on the bike in question,
not on yours.  :-)

-- 
- Alex Matthews  (new address: alexm.csn.org)

  "A typical Grand Prix race.  High noon.  Tension mounts.  Throttles clench."
                        Patricia Zonker, _Murdercycles_
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From: car377@druhi.ATT.COM (RogersC)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goldwings are darned interesting motorcycles
Summary: Bike Bux
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:34:39 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Dec16.201827.26324@ncar.ucar.edu>, jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
> 
> (Although there is something to be said for $50K
> handbuilt italian bikes.)

Yeah, like, "You mean Lire, right?  DOLLARS??? Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!"

:-)
Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
From: Chuck.Cole@f78.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Chuck Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bad BMW Drivers
Date: 11 Dec 92 11:35:10 GMT

Hello William E. Johns;S23015 (1:282/31),

In REC.MOTO on <Dec 09 22:16> to All, you wrote:

>>BMW makes K-bikes as well as boxers.

 WEJ> PD pilots rarely acknowledge that, however.

Some do and own both.. (me)

 * Origin: Lake Superior Iron Butt & Grand Tour (1:282/78)
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Interstate Speeds (was Re: Radar Gun For S
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:38:02 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us, dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>
> Yeah, but not everyone lives on the east coast.  I can get on I-40 in
>western North Carolina and run dead straight all the way to around
>Kingman AZ, where it gets a little bendy. 

Nit:  I-40 is twisty (as twistie as an interstate freeway can get)
quite a ways into Tennessee.  From Knoxville, you do have a clear shot
to the desert...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Keywords: hm.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:02:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.140142.1126@posthorn.informatik.uni-kl.de> nessel@informatik.uni-kl.de (Jochen Nessel) writes:
|[deleted...]
||>
||>   My personal experience backs that up, also.  In three separate accidents
||> in the last 100,000 miles of riding, my helmet has been completely undamaged
||> each time.  Make of that what you will...
|
|Well, dunno. About 3 months ago, a sonofawhore pushed me off the road
|(they never catched him) and into a guard rail. Hit my head against one
|of those steel bars. Without helmet, my ghost would be writing this.
|So i only got a heavy concussion (and some broken bones...).

My gosh, Jochen.  That's just too close to death for comfort.  If you had
any sense, you'd quit riding.

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shafer@spdcc.com (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:39:35 GMT

In article <viking.724808682@vincent2.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:

>	At the risk of getting flamed by an F-4 on full afterburner, the
>only question I have is this: Does Mary Shaffer wear a special bra to
>more easily withstand G-forces in the cockpit of those gorgeous aircraft
>she gets to motor around in?  If so, is it up for bid?

A Jogbra, of course, is what the well-dressed and well-endowed woman
wears in the Phantom.  Not very glamorous at all and mostly used in
step aerobics class.  It's a little too worn to offer for bid,
though, besides being my only one.

There recently was a very odd little flamewar on the topic of, um,
zero-g bust control in sci.space recently.  Or at least, I thought it
was odd, with people being accused of sexist prurience for even
wondering if women wore bras in space.

Mary Shafer

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:25:10 GMT

In article <1gs944INN16l@agate.berkeley.edu> delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:
>In article <BzFMyn.G6C@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>>In article <1992Dec17.214231.13428@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec17.200227.4185@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>>|> Everything is for sale. It just depends on the offer.
>>>so how much for the bra? my first offer is $1
>>Next bid is $2
>>Couldn't resist.
>You guys obviously have not a clue of what a good bra goes for these days.....

Used, in a size that my wife can't wear, and one I probably couldn't either,
if I had the inclination.  But having the underwear off of a DoDer might be
worth some blackmail points at some time in the future...

When she can find bras to fit her, Tracey pays >$30 for them.  It's a bitch
when all of the common sizes are for short, slim women.  No really good ones
for 6' 175# 36DD women.

The bid holds.

CP "Chuck the Merciless" Tomes
Test? What test???
Oh, that one.  NOOOOOOOO PROBLEM..........
From: helpdesk@otago.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Tom rides an odd bike!
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:27:31 +1300
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

>                 tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
>                             Loud Pipes Suck

Pardon me, but I think you've got it wrong.

Carbs suck,
Pipes blow!

-- Klox --
-- KotSnail (83 MHR) and payer of its bills - DoD#1962 --
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Locking rear (was Re: First ride in rain...)
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:46:08 GMT

vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Von Welch) writes:

>In article <1gdg0oINN2f1@agate.berkeley.edu>, robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson) writes:
>|> Which raises an interesting question (for me, anyway).  Is the only 
>|> "officially sanctioned" course of action in the event of a rear-wheel
>|> lockup to come to a full and complete stop, and then start all over 
>|> again?  (This hasn't been an issue for me so far, as I've only locked the
>|> rear when I wanted a full and complete stop faster than the bike wanted.)
>|> 
>|> What happens if you lock the rear wheel in circumstances under which a
>|> full and complete stop isn't such a good idea (e.g., number 3 lane of 280 
>|> southbound at 6:00pm in the dark)?

>Raises a question I have...I know that in the MSF course they say to leave
>the rear locked if you lock it, and look straight ahead and you'll go straight.
>Well, the two times I've locked up my rear on the street it tends to start
>sliding out to the right, I think because the road is sloped for rain runoff.
>In the MSF course, on a parking lot, it went relatively straight.

>I eased off both times I felt the rear start to slide around, and neither time
>had any control problems. Two times does not a rule make, so what experiences
>have you folks had?

OK, the rule is there for learning. The way it works, is if the rear
wheel is more than a few degrees to one side or the other, you run the
risk of high siding. The farther ou;the more the risk. If the rear
wheel is there in back of you, where it should be, no problem. The
trick is to know when you can and can't let off the brake, and to get
it done at the right time. 

Some bikes have more of a tendancy to high side than others. If a bike
has a short wheel base, and  high center of gravity, it will show more
of a tendancy to high side. Case in point the Nighthawk S. This was
one of the most fun bikes I've owned. It also had a short wheel base,
16" wheels front and rear, and a high center of gravity. It was prone
to high side. The '78 CB750K I had with it's relatively long wheel
base, and low CG, never exhibited these characteristics.


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'86 Concours.....Sophisticated Lady            Tom Dietrich             
'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES* (maybe) :{(^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
e-mail txd@Able.MKT.3Com.COM                   Ma Bell (408) 738-8301
Disclaimer: 3Com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this.

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From: arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arnie Skurow)
Subject: Re: Beer in saddlebags (was Re: Fabulous DoD Babes For Jeff)
Keywords: Beer- (like you guys couldn't figure it out ?? sheesh)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 11:34:01 GMT

The melt from the ice would drip out the hole in the bottom.

Arnie
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sport Bikes
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:56 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
Keywords: Spam
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <4435@cvbnetPrime.COM>, 
	tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes...
]Ladies, Gentlemen, Saab Drivers who piss Dick off;
] 
]	I've been on the road for quite some time and upon my return saw 
]some discussions pertaining to fascinating subjects like Sport Bikes. I
]rendered my own opinion and then my curiousity got the best of me. Plus
]I really wanted to know. So I looked up the word Sport in the dictionary. 
]Here is what it said....
] 
]   "To shoot out as liquid through a pipe; projecting tube or pipe for 
]    pouring liquid. A tube or pipe for leading off rain from a roof."
] 
]	This evidence has drastically altered my opinion of exactly what is 
]a sportbike. Previous to my enlightenment I believed that a material object
]is not classifiable as a "sport" anything; but rather the function for which
]it is used can be classified as such. Now I have yet to meet anyone who uses 
]thier motorcycle for shooting liquid through a pipe, or to get rain off of
]a roof. I feel that all off you said "sportbike" owners have been victimized.
]Your bikes are worthless, and your actions are shameful. In the future I do
]hope you'll learn to become better consumers. Another example of the Japenese
]taking advantage of the American people. First the Chia Pet, now this.

	Are you sure you didn't look up "spout" by mistake?  When did you last
have an eye test?  FYI, the relevant definition of "sport" in this context is

    "An animal that shows an unusual or singular deviation from the normal"


				:-)

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgroner@jarthur.claremont.edu (NecroPuke)
Subject: New owner of Yamaha Seca II looking for advice
Keywords: Yamaha, newbie, Seca II, clueless, help
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:22:07 GMT

I have been in Russia for the last six months and while I was gone
my dad bought a 1992 Yamaha Seca II for me with my wages. It is 
uninsured, unregistered, and I am unlicensed and unexperienced. I
need a LOT of help. I need to know everything from how to best insure
it to how to go about buying equipment to how to ride to how to 
break the darn thing in. Background,etc: I had a Kawasaki EX500 for
a few months under very strange circumstances which allowed me to
avoid paperwork of any sort, so I do know the basics of riding, but
that is about it. I live and go to school in Illinois. Anybody who
wishes to attack the monstrous task of decreasing my ignorance will
have my gratitude.
    I hereby claim the DoD# 9689.

                    Todd
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Todd Groner, DoD# 9689, Yamaha Seca II (Scotia)     "Spoon!"  ---Tick

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dwjurkat@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Jurkat)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 23:45:51 EST

In article <1992Dec10.141240.10265@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>In article <Bz0Fr7.C7L@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>>
>>>When I was 2 years old, I fell down the stairs and had a concussion. At 7,
>>>I fell while ice skating and had another. 13 I had a collision in gym class
>>>Yup, a third one. 17 I got thrown by a horse. Almost forgot, at 12 I was
>>>hit by a car while riding my bicycle. No concussion, but knocked out for
>>>most of the day. 
>>
>>So howcome you fall down so much?
>>
>>:-)
>
>Young and dumb, and always been a risktaker. Took 30-odd years to realize
>I'm not gonna live forever unless I'm a bit more careful. Some of us catch
>on slower than others.
>
>Jeff Achenbach  

Sorry, got some more bad news for you.  No matter how careful you are
you ain't gonna live forever.  So enjoy life while you can! 
p.s. and don't try to fall down so much, we do worry about you, you know. :)
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