From: parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu (Robert S. Parker)
Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:10:41 GMT

vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu () writes:

>hsims@vax.clarku.edu writes:

[WHO THE HELL ADDED ALL THOSE GROUPS TO THE DISTRIBUTION?]
I am removing:  alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show

>>Really, those poor, homeless, and hungry children should just take 
>>responsibility for their lives and find a job.  Funding programs such as 
>>WIC will just encourage infants and children to be lazy bums.

>Those poor, homeless and hungry children should have had parents responsible
>enough to realize they couldn't afford to feed children.  If they could
>have controlled their hormones there wouldn't be a problem.  You tell me which
>is the worse crime, society refusing to pay deadbeats or deadbeats knowingly
>bringing children into the world whom they cannot feed.  Would any decent
>person bring children into this world to watch them starve?  I think not.

So...all pro-lifers are not decent?  Hmmm, that's a possibility...    ;)

>And yes, wasteful social programs WILL encourage children to be bums because
>they learn by the example of their parents.

>Only an idiot would hold children responsible for the stupidity and 
>cruelty of their parents.  If programs that help these children could be
>enacted that would truly be uncorruptable and beneficial to them, they would
>be warranted.

Scenario:  unwanted child born into abusive family.  The parents would have
gotten an abortion, but it was "illegal", so they couldn't.

The child now has to suffer because of the cruelty and irresponsibility of
his or her parents.  Does this sound like a *good* thing?

>Abortion is murder.  It's not a question of just the mother's life, but also
>the baby's.  The laws of this country already state that murder is wrong so
>in fact the state already has control over this issue.  The only problem is
>in making people aware of what abortion really is... cold blooded, vicious,
>violent, painful MURDER.  

Do you know what they do to kittens and puppies (even adult cats and dogs)
when they have too many of them and can't care for them any more?  They "put
them to sleep".  It used to be that they would put them in a bag and drown
them in a river, but these days the more "humane" technique of lethal injection
is used.

An unborn child is alive.  So is a kitten.  An unborn child can fell pain.
So can a kitten.  An unborn child moves around.  So does a kitten.  Many people
find unborn children to be "cute" (they compare them to babies which are
supposedly "cute").  Many people find kittens to be "cute".

A kitten would requre support for up to 18 years.  A child would require even
more support for the same time.  We don't always have the resources to provide
for all the kittens that could exist.  We don't always have the resources to
provide for all the children that could be born.

No one wants to kill kittens, but sometimes it is necessary because people are
more important.  No one wants to kill unborn children, but sometimes it is
necessary because people are more important.

And why is this ok?  A kitten is not a person . . . and neither is an unborn
child.

>This isn't the forum to discuss abortion.  If you would like to argue it go
>to talk.abortion. 

Who added those other groups?  Would someone please tell me what the groups
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show  have to do with what
has been discussed here?

>>				.... Heather.

>Same as above --^  [ Edward Simmonds ]

-Rob
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