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From: Ronald.Bellamy@p0.f45.n342.z1.fidonet.org (Ronald Bellamy)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Packet Radio
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 17:22:42 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:342/45.0 - SPQR, Edmonton AB

dc
LH> I assume these run between $100 - $500.  Is that a ballpark figure?
 
 That's right.
 
 LH> What are you using for your telecommunications program that will give 
 LH> you that split screen?
 
 As I mentioned before, I am not up and running packet yet.  I will be  trying ZTerm which allows for a keyboard buffer window like a split  screen.  My friend uses an Apple IIgs with ProTerm for his packet  station.
 
 LH> Do you plan to use Packet Radio to pick up the K12net messages?
 
 I didn't know K12 was going on Packet.  It doesn't seem to be in this  area.
 
 Ronald Bellamy VE6SIR



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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Interfacing, bbss, etc.
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:30:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR


 > JCYears ago (about 8 or 9) I started interfacing lab
 > JCexercises to an Apple IIe.  Went to an interfacing workshop

This is where I started.  Red box from QRM and before that I think it was a
 blue box from somewhere in Maryland.
 > JCexercises to an Apple IIe.  Went to an interfacing workshop
 > JCat Northeastern in Boston - became inspired to get more
 > JCelectronics training - now suffering from info overload -
 > JCso many interesting things to pursue, so little time.  How
 > JCoften do you hear that lament?

I got my real start at Tufts University with Ron Thornton and David Sokoloff.
 About 20 of us piloted motion detectors and the first force probes.
 Temperature probes were also involved.

 > JCNevertheless, when is your workshop?  Are you interfacing
 > JCPCs, Macs, an eclectic mix?  If it's in the summer, I can
 > JCuse it as an excuse to come out and windsurf the Gorge -
 > JCvisit friends on the way.

The workshop runs from July 5th through July 16th.  If we get additional
 funding it may extend for a third week.

We interface Mac's and MS-DOS machines.  We will use the ULI and MPLI from
 Vernier.  We also have a few 6500 boxes from PASCO.  Probes will include
 motion, force, light, magnetic field, sound and etc.  We spend two days
 working with a low-cost digital timer.  This device is very useful for
 projectile motion (we have special launchers), free-fall (a different
 ball launcher) and simple harmonic motion.  One of the instructors has many
 other experiments ranging from the Doppler Effect to the Interference of
 Sound.

The primary reason for the workshop is to send teachers home with 20 - 30
 experiments they can use in their classroom.  I am pleased if they will add
 3-5 new ideas the first year.  Teachers are given Internet addresses through
 our school and we try to keep in touch with the teachers via that vehicle.
We have had moderate success using Internet.  Teachers also go home with some
equipment.

Graduate credit is available and a modest stipend of $400.

Lowell Herr
Project PHYSLab
The Catlin Gabel School


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Subject: Re: FOUCAULT PENDULUM
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Date: 15 Nov 1992 04:07:12 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
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In <1992Nov13.144443.13836@uva386.schools.virginia.edu> dparks@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (Dan Parks) writes:

>I would like an explanation of the Foucault pendulum. I have
>seen it in operation and I understand that it demonstrates that
>the Earth is rotating beneath the pendulum but I do not
>understand the apparent 360 degree rotation when the Earth is
>not rotating around every given point. I can see 360 degree
>rotation around the Poles only. How does the Foucault pendulum
>appear at the Equator? I would appreciate any and all responses.

Well, I've contacted the higher-ups on this one, but I'm pretty sure that
the Foucault pendulum acts on the same principle as the Corriolis Force (the
force that drives tornadoes and hurricanes and draining bath-water in a
counter-clockwise direction (Clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere))  This
force isn't seen as the equator.  So, perhaps the Foucault pendulum would
not work at the equator?  I'm very curious now, so I'll turn up an answer in
a couple of days.

-David Iverson

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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Physics software
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 16:21:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR

 > DI>Doug.
 > DII'm totally enamored with a program that I've seen (on the
 > DIMac, might be on
 > DIIBM but I can't say for sure) called Interactive Physics
 > DIII.  (Don't know
 > DIwho makes it, but I could find out if you ask back)

Doug and David,  I agree with David's assessment of Interactive Physics.
The address is:

Knowledge Revolution
15 Brush Place
San Francisco, CA 94103

I think it does take some though as to how you might want to use it with your
students but there is certainly plenty of power in the program.

It is not available for the IBM.  I highly recommend a Mac IIci to run the
 most recent version of IP.

Lowell 

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From: Rob.Waite@f208.n326.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Waite)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: Physics software
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 10:34:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:326/208 - Street Corner BBS, Bath ME

DS> Can anybody give me some names of some good shareware educational
DS> software for physics or chemistry?

    I found this on one of the boards local to me (southern Maine)... I
    dount know how to do a file attachment, but if you are intrested
    and can't find iot in your area, I can find out how.... (I realy
    should find out anyway)

    I have checked it out, and it is impresive.... IBM and Compatables
    only

       THE INTEGRAL SCIENTIST v1.11 <ASP> - An
       Information Utility for Scientist.  Includes a periodic table
       element database with 5 screens of information per element, 450
       unit conversion calculator, chemical solutions calculator,
       dilutions calculator, molecular weight calculator, solvents
       database, user customizable indexed data viewer, flashcard drill
       function, context sensitive help and hypertext/printable
       documentation. $50.00


... Choose one: Smart bombs [ ] Smart kids [ ]  
- Origin: Realms of the Unforgiven / (207) 729-9128 (1:326/210.0)



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From: John.Crull@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (John Crull)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Re: applied physics
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 08:17:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

On 11-1292, DEBORAH A. WALDRON wrote to ALL:
>-------------------------------------
I don't have a text (couldn't find one I liked in the amount of time I had to look) but I often refer to Hewitt's Conceptual Physics book.
>-------------------------------------

Don't try to work out of a single text.
For more lab ideas, take a look at Prentice Hall's Introductory Physical Science II (Book I is a hands-on historical approach to chemistry with a heavy emphasis on physical properties, while Book II contains some physics experiments you won't find in many other sources).

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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Satellite
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 05:48:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR

 > PW        The problem is:  What is the period of a satellite
 > PWwhose path would take it through the centre of the earth?
 > PWYou assume that there is a hole cut in the centre of the
 > PWearth, and there is no friction.

Is this "satellite" oscillating just from one side of the earth to the
 opposite side?

LH 

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From: Matt.Dinning@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Matt Dinning)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: gaolines
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 09:35:53 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

     A few months ago I bought a new Nissan.  My pickup came
equipped with a fuel injected motor.  I was persuaded by friends
and commercials to burn super unleaded gasoline in my pickup.
This gasoline costs $1.36 per gallon while regular unleaded
sells for $1.26 per gallon.  The pump reads that it contains an
octane rating of 92.  This is the only differnce that I have
ever noticed.  This rating is only slightly larger than regular
unleaded.  Many people claim that super unleaded gasoline gives
an engine more power, keeps internal parts clean, and improves
gas mileage.  What is the difference in chemical composition
between super unleaded and regular unleaded gasoline?  Is the
higher price worth the benifits that gasoline companies claim it
provides?  Would it be cheaper to save the money that would be
used on a more expensive gas and just replace the motor sooner?
Do bottled products that claim they contain additives that are
simular to super unleaded work the on same basis with performance
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From: Paul.Boyle@f40.n2310.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Boyle)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: new river study
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 09:24:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2310/40 - EVSC BBS, Evansville IN

#7066 was not for me it was real late. 

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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Interactive Physics
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 04:46:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR

 > JA LH> If there are "pros" using Interactive Physics, I would sure

Are you a physics teacher and if so, are you working with interface probes in
your lab?  I am referring to force probes, motion detectors, photo detectors
 and etc.

Lowell 

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From: Mike.Peterson@p0.f14.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Peterson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: USING ANIMALS FOR TESTS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 11:53:26 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/14.0 - Room 5, Bonners Ferry ID

     Hi my name is Mike Peterson. I am attending High school as a
sophmore in Northern Idaho, USA. I have to do a speach on animal
rights soon and I want to know your opinion conserning these
questions:
 
1)   Should animals be used for testing drugs, chemicals, ect.?
 
2)   Should rabbits be used to test lotion, shampoo, and
conditioner?
 
3)   Is all of this testing necessary?  Why?
 
4)   How far should we go with testing?  Until the testing becomes
fatal or makes the animals suffer?
 
     Any other opinions you have either for or against, I would
would very much appreciate a responce
 
     MIke Peterson
 



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Subject: Re: Physics software
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Date: 15 Nov 1992 03:42:37 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
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In <19299.2B0523BA@puddle.fidonet.org> Doug.Stevens@f17.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Stevens) writes:

>Can anybody give me some names of some good shareware educational software for physics or chemistry?

>Thanks
>Doug.

I'm totally enamored with a program that I've seen (on the Mac, might be on
IBM but I can't say for sure) called Interactive Physics II.  (Don't know
who makes it, but I could find out if you ask back)

The gist of the program is that it's basically a drawing program, but you
can assign all sorts of physical quantities to the objects.  Make a table
(rectangle) and give the surface the coefficient of friction of your choice
(static and kinetic) now put a block on the table, and give it a mass and a
coeffient of friction.  Hook a spring between the a wall that you put up and
the block and define the spring constant (Hooke's law).  Give the block some
initial displacement and watch it go.  This is only the most basic.  You can
do projectiles with variable air friction and gravity.  You can make joints
that will break if the force exceeds some critical value.  You can tell the
program to label all the force vectors in the system and watch how they
change as the system changes.  It's mesmerizing!!  This could be used in so
many creative and informative ways, I couldn't even start a list without
going for pages.

-David Iverson

P.S. If you teach your kids how to use Mathematica or Maple or some other
Math program, (which may be beyond the scope of what you can reasonable
accomplish)  you'll be giving them incredible power to problem solve. 
Learning the basics of a Math program isn't really that difficult. And once
they've got the basics you can start introducing them to problems that would
be mathematically too difficult for a student at that level, but not
necesarily too conceptually difficult.

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From: C..Lee.Duckert@f600.n139.z1.fidonet.org (C. Lee Duckert)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: BOOKS
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 08:59:43 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:139/600 - Homebuilt Flyer, Neenah WI

The Scientific American series is also good and readable but especially
_The Second Law_  and _Powers of Ten_. You might also want to include a book by 
Stephen Gould, perhaps _The Panda's Thumb_ and one by James Trefil as they are 
both so lucid and write as practicing scientists.  And while many of his books 
are dated, how did you miss Isaac Asimov?  His _Atom_ is fairly recent and has 
clear and easy to understand prose and manages to pass on the wonder and 
excitement of the researchers.

Any book by James Burke does a great job at showingthe relationship between 
society and history and the scientific/engineering discoveries that led to 
changes.  My favorite, title same as the PBS series, is _Connections_.

Consult your librarian - if the school librarian hasn't hear of the following, 
run to the nearest public reference desk.
_Appraisal: Science Books for Young People_
_Science: Outstanding Science Trade Books for Children_ from the National 
Science Teachers Assn w/ the Children's Book Council, new list each March.  Can 
be had for a SASE from The Children's Cooperative Book Center, 4290 Helen C. 
White Hall, 600 N.Park St., Madison, WI 53706
_The Museum of Science and Industry Basic List of Children's Science Books_
The library education magazine "Booklinks" does subject lists.  Many will be 
for lower grade levels but gems like _How to Count Like a Martian_ by Glory St. 
John will be listed.

Most public and university libraries have reference phone numbers so that you 
could phone ahead to see what a particular library would have.
Cindy Lee Duckert 


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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Grant Search
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 19:56:11 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In an article of <Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:50:41 GMT>, golson@sendit.NoDak.edu (Gary Richard Olson) writes:

 GR>
 GR>        I am searching for grant information so that I may write a 
 GR>grant and try to obtain equipment for some science activities.
 GR>Hopefully other people may also benefit from the information.
 GR>
Channel 1 currently has a beginning list of Grants that the Moderator has  
learned about.  If you have any grant info please post.  You are welcome to  
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From: Lowell.Herr@f32.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Lowell Herr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.science
Subject: Packet Radio
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 05:40:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/32 - On-Line Mutual Fund, Portland OR

 > RB I didn't know K12 was going on Packet.  It doesn't seem to

To my knowledge it isn't but it would be a way to expand the K12net base.

LH 

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From: Lanesa.Stradtman@p11.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Lanesa Stradtman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: life
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:08:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.11 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Hi there!  How's things in Valier?  Things are pretty boring here. I'm leaving to go elk hunting today so I won't talk to you until after Thanksgiving.  You're supposed to tell your teacher hi from Mr. Patterson.  My very single friend Tedi Jo said to tell you guys hi too.  If you want me to send you a picture you're going to have to give me your address.  You can send it the next time you write, or you could send me your picture.  My address is:  Box 12,  Boyes, MT.  59316.  Well the bells about to ring s

o I better go.          

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From: Brian.Weir@f70.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Weir)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Rational Expressions
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 20:20:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/70 - The Teacher's Pet, Oklahoma City OK

Hi!  My name is Brian Weir, and one of the things that I found especially useful when I learned how to use rationals all the way back in seventh grade was that Mrs. Bryan went over all the rules for using fractions over and over again.  Only then did we learn how to use fractions with variables in them, and most of us picked it up right away.

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From: AXD2@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Mira Constructions
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:34:44 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Sheila -- let us know how to construct sine and cosine curves using
the Mira!

Thanks!

Anabeth Dollins   axd2@psuvm.psu.edu
From: ivens@forum.swarthmore.edu (Bernie Ivens)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: A Nice Geometry Problem
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:29:49 GMT
Organization: The Geometry Forum
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Find the area of a circle inscribed in a triangle whose sides have length
3,4 and 5.

This type of problem would appear on an S.A.T. test or math Achievement
test.
Bernie Ivens
The Geometry Forum
School Liason
Swarthmore College, PA
ivens@forum.swarthmore.edu
From: Shariyar.Kazia@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Shariyar Kazia)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Letter
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 09:37:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

        Hello I am Shariyar Kazia. I am a student at Taipei American School but I was born in India. My favorite topic in math is logic.  I am in 9th grade and am taking Geometry. Please write to me if you have any info on this topic.



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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: LETTER TO THE WORLD      
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:23:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Tyler,

While we are happy to have you participating here in the K12_Math area,
you should be aware that this is not a general "chat" echo for general
chit-chat and visiting. This is the MATH area, and you should discuss
math.

Perhaps you would like to tell us what you are currently studying in
math, or what your favorite topic is in math?

If you would prefer to discuss something else, then ask your teacher or
Sysop to help you find the  appropriate area to post in.

Sheila King
K12_Math echo Moderator
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                       

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From: tmunson@cwis.unomaha.edu (todd s. munson)
Subject: interactive math texts
Summary: We are looking for information on interactive math texts.
Keywords: interactive math text information
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Respond: tmunson@cwis.unomaha.edu
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:29:48 GMT

The University of Nebraska at Omaha math department is looking for any
information on interactive math texts.  Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

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From: Griff.Palmer@f70.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Griff Palmer)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Math programs
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:23:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/70 - The Teacher's Pet, Oklahoma City OK

Hello, all:
I would appreciate suggestions on remedial math tutorials for an adult. I had the misfortune of being put into accellerated math in secondary school when I wasn't ready for it, and I've never really gotten caught up on higher math. I can do basic arithmetic, percentages, fractions, etc. In college, I aced both introduction to scientific thought and symbolic logic (though I retained all too little of that knowledge, I'm afraid). Anyway, if there are any programs you can suggest that would drill me on arithm

etic and take me on into algebra and geometry, I'd appreciate it.


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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: LIFE
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:38:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Lanesa,

This is the K12_Math area, and any messages you leave in this area
should have to do with MATH!!! (If you are just visiting with other
students then you should use the Chat echos instead.)

I appreciate your cooperation in this area. Thanks,

Sheila King
K12_Math echo Moderator
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From: Brian.Weir@f70.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Weir)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.math
Subject: Teaching multiplication to second graders
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 20:24:28 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/70 - The Teacher's Pet, Oklahoma City OK

I have this really nifty computer program that I've written that drills them on basic math skills on all four operations, but if you want something that will teach them, I'll need some help with that.

Brian



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