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From: winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Why Disney's parks are different
Summary: magic is important
Date: 24 Jan 93 04:26:41 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA


Not far from my house, at the Great America amusement park, there 
is a ride called The Edge. It consists of a girdered tower about
100 feet high painted about the same color as the Golden Gate Bridge.
The ride consists of standing in line, taking an elevator to the
top of the tower, getting in a little steel-grid cage, and screaming
as the cage slides forward a few feet and then drops abruptly toward
the ground below. (The track is curved near the bottom and takes the
cage forward a little ways before stopping.)

Compare that to this description of the upcoming WDW "Twilight Zone 
Tower of Terror" from the 1992 Walt Disney Company annual report:

	A  white-knuckle adventure inspired by the 1950's
	television series. Tower guests embark on a journey
	into another dimension while exploring a mysterious
	Hollywood hotel. The trip is climaxed by a 13-story
	breakaway drop down an elevator shaft.

*That's* why Disney is Disney. I sure know which one I'd rather
wait in line for...


Patty

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From: jcs@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Janet C. Sakell)
Subject: Proxy for Shareholders - Question
Originator: jcs@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:05:59 GMT


I skimmed my 1992 Annual Report and am sitting here looking at the
proxy I have to sign.  I have not held Disney stock since 1940 -
if I had I wouldn't be working given the value they calculate (-: -
can someone tell me why the Directors recommend a vote against 
Proposal 3 (To approve the stockholder proposal with respect to the 
dissemination of quarterly reports)?  I need some facts here and
I don't see them in the material I got.  Private e-mail is fine.
Thanks,
Janet Sakell
jcs@virginia.edu
From: gds@crosfield.co.uk (gary stamp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Shuttle launch
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:02:20 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

Here's an unusual question:-

I hope to visit WDW during March. It happens that a shuttle launch is due
during my holiday.

If I choose to spend that day some where in Disney,
	-will I be able to see the orbiter following take-off ?
	-where would be the best place to catch a view ?
	-in which direction (i.e is the sun in my eyes) ?
	-any other tips ?




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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: New Disney Fans!!!!!!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:56:26 GMT


Howdy - I am sending this message along by request!  

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

 On monday January 11th two new Disney fans entered the world, Emily and

 Meghan. They both have thier first Mickey Mouse shirts from our local Disney

 store. I can't wait till they get old enough to start watching all the Disney

 films that I've collected for them.


 Paul Mason

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

CONGRATULATIONS!! 


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu



Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Review
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:38:06 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  jwidor@melpar (Jeff Widor) writes . . .

>Phase, I respect your opinion of the film Alladin, but I must admit,
>your spelling skills are severely lacking.  

  Pot.  Kettle.  Black.

 - snopes

 ObligatoryDisneyFact:  Disney has produced three of the most frequently
 misspelled movie titles in film history: "Pinnochio", "Alladin", and
 "101 Dalmations" (sic x 3).

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From: jwidor@melpar (Jeff Widor)
Subject: Re: Aladdin Review
Organization: E-Systems, Melpar Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:25:06 GMT

VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes) writes:

>  jwidor@melpar (Jeff Widor) writes . . .

>>Phase, I respect your opinion of the film Alladin, but I must admit,
>>your spelling skills are severely lacking.  

>  Pot.  Kettle.  Black.

> - snopes

> ObligatoryDisneyFact:  Disney has produced three of the most frequently
> misspelled movie titles in film history: "Pinnochio", "Alladin", and
> "101 Dalmations" (sic x 3).

This is the public apology I said that I was going to post.  I am sorry for
flaming your spelling, Phase.  It seems I was so caught up in correcting you
that I neglected to check my own spelling.  Better luck next time to both of us.
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Why Disney's parks are different
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:58:48 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <77380@apple.apple.COM> winter@Apple.COM (Patty Winter) writes:
>
>Not far from my house, at the Great America amusement park, there 
>is a ride called The Edge. It consists of a girdered tower about
>100 feet high painted about the same color as the Golden Gate Bridge.
>The ride consists of standing in line, taking an elevator to the
>top of the tower, getting in a little steel-grid cage, and screaming
>as the cage slides forward a few feet and then drops abruptly toward
>the ground below. (The track is curved near the bottom and takes the
>cage forward a little ways before stopping.)
>
>Compare that to this description of the upcoming WDW "Twilight Zone 
>Tower of Terror" from the 1992 Walt Disney Company annual report:
>
>        A  white-knuckle adventure inspired by the 1950's
>        television series. Tower guests embark on a journey
>        into another dimension while exploring a mysterious
>        Hollywood hotel. The trip is climaxed by a 13-story
>        breakaway drop down an elevator shaft.
>
>*That's* why Disney is Disney. I sure know which one I'd rather
>wait in line for...
>
>
>Patty


I was at Great America in 1990, and I rode the Edge. My friend and I
made the mistake of scarfing a hot dog and cotton candy in line...
I just look at that ride now and get ill.  1990 was the first time I'd
been to Disneyland since 1975, and when we got to Great America, it
seemed to me just to be a dirty Disneyland wanna-be.  Disneyland has
set the tone for most amusement parks, IMHO.

So does anyone know about this upcoming Twilight Zone ride? Those of
us on the left coast wanna know....

-Denise
********"
"If you can't say something nice...don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

"Good luck will rub off when I shakes hands with you...
Or blow me...and that's lucky too." -overheard backstage at Disneyland
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From: ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung)
Subject: Re: Lyrics to Gaston's Song
Originator: schung@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:46:33 GMT


Agh... the best part is missing (you know: Noone plots like Gaston/ Takes
cheap shots like Gaston,/ Noone persecutes harmless crackpots like Gaston!
etc.).  Anyone got this part?

SC, VCR-free, admits it was he.

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From: brett@surfpix.princeton.edu (Brett Borowski)
Subject: Wanted: BK Aladdin cup
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:58:59 GMT

My local Burger King didn't get the fourth Aladdin cup so I have
an incomplete set of three.  I have Aladdin and Abu on Carpet,
Aladdin and Jasmine on Carpet, and the Genie.

If anyone has an extra of the fourth cup, I'd love to make a
(reasonable) offer for it.  Thanks in advance!

Brett B.


-- 
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From: jle37069@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nevoieur the Hunted)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:24:02 GMT

cdsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER DALE SMITH) writes:


>Don't post that much, but this is definitely my favorite group!


>I don't recall this one in any of the BatB lists:
> 
> Did anyone else notice that Belle's fingernails
> were long/short throughout the movie.
>In some scenes they are long, in others, short. 
> Does she use Lee press-on nails or did different
> animators not have the finger thing straight?


>Tangential comment:

>Jasmine's hair has got to go.  Ariel, by far, had the 
>most appealing hair.  Every strand carefully, and perfectly
>animated!  I loved that little piece of hair that kept falling
>on Belle.  How many times did she have to fix that piece?  I'de 
>estimate at least 10 times.  (This is a set up for someone to reply
>with the correct number)
I, for one, loved her hair.  Granted it was animated en masse (sic) but that is OK.  IMHO her hair was quite appropriate, especially considereing culture.


>Oh well, had fun.


>********************************************
>Don't have a sig. jobber to put down here. My name will have to do ...
>                                     
>				Chris D. Smith
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Where can I find CHIP & DALE GIFs?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:44:19 GMT

Ok.  People want GIFs from Disney Afternoon.  I have just purchased a
very hefty book called "The Encyclopedia of Disney's Animated
Characters" (what a buy!) which has all the Disney Afternoon characters
depicted.  *When* I get the free time I can scan them.

I also have a nice pic in this book of Kaa with Mowgli.  Someone wanted
this if I recall.

Tim Pickett
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: my aladdin review....
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:05:22 GMT

In article <30407@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>
>It is not a horrible film by any means - just not as good in
>my opinion as many of the reviews I've seen -  I had to agree with our local
>reviewer who said something like "not as good as Disney fanatics will have
>you believe, but a quality animated film none the less". 

The majority vote is against you and your kids, for what that's worth.
"Aladdin" just went up to $147 million gross, outdoing the previous best
figure for an animated film in first release.  ("Beauty and the Beast",
at $144 million, I believe.)  "Aladdin" made $7 million last weekend alone,
making it the top grossing film of the week.  It could very easily end
up grossing in excess of $200 million in the U.S. and Canada alone.  That's 
bad news for those who didn't like it, as Disney will regard it as a crystal-
clear signal that they did something right, and would be well advised to do it
again.

Personally, I enjoyed "Aladdin", but preferred "Beauty and the Beast".  I 
think "Aladdin"is doing better largely because Disney has had more success in
selling it as a film that adults will like.  I've heard of several people who 
didn't go see "Beauty and the Beast" because they thought it was just for kids.
(Most of them have enjoyed it very much when they did catch up with it.)
The presence of Robin Williams and the style of the film makes "Aladdin"
an easier sell for adults.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Skimps on Laserdiscs
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:25:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1993Jan19.215931.25607@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer) writes:
>(Michael Ho) writes:
>>> [Re:  Article in PULSE! chiding Disney for not including supplemental
>>  material on LaserDiscs.]
>>
>> Now, just a cotton-pickin'-minute.  Though it's true that Disney has never
>> been much for including supplemental material on its LDs, NO MAJOR STUDIO
>> that I know of has made much of an attempt to do so.
>>
>> The person who wrote that article obviously wants Disney, a major movie
>> house, to create Criterion-quality laserdiscs to satisfy his or her own
>> whims... but why stop at Disney?  Other than steamy "never-before-seen-in-
>> U.S.-theatres" smut, I don't see any other movie houses scrambling to include
>> director's commentary, outtakes, unused footage, et al, on their LDs.
>> Criterion has always been the distributor of choice for such goodies. ...
>
>Not true.  MGM has been quite active in including cut scenes in their
>musicals, such as "Singin' In the Rain", "The Bandwagon", "An American
>In Paris".  Others have included "making of" documentaries ("It's A Wonderful
>Life" (Republic Home Video, not Criterion)).

Paramount has been doing it too, with Star Trek IV, Fatal Attraction, and War
of the Roses to name a few.

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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Re: Getting a job at Disney
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:12:01 GMT

John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO (cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu) wrote:

> I hate to disappoint you, but even when you're already in the industry,
> it's not so easy to get such a job.  Just ask my best friend.

It's as simple as this: to do a Disney voice-over (or any other V.O. for
that matter), you have to have the right voice. :)  They auditioned
countless numbers of people for the role of Aladdin (hey! even I auditioned
and everyone says that I do a great Aladdin), but it took several months
before they finally hired Scott Weinger (and many more months until they
got Brad Kane).  Some of this can be attributed to the change of the
character's age.  Disney is especially picky about their voice casting,
but that's probably why they end up with such great voices in all of their
pictures.
--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: duehara@yosemite.math.ucla.edu (Dana Uehara)
Subject: Re: Dinosaurs: Big Songs CD
Organization: Toonaholics Anonymous
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:42:07 GMT

In article <35@parnasus.dell.com> mmaster@parnasus.dell.com (Michael Masterson) writes:

>Christmas present, Disney Records.
>
>1) I'm a Dinosaur (I can do whatever I want)
>2) In a Perfect World
>3) I Wanna Be King
>4) Grandma's Comin'
>5) Stone Age Bayou
>6) I'm the Baby (Gotta Love Me)
>7) Coldblooded Guy
>8) He's a Lizard
>9) Poor Slobs with Terrible Jobs
>10) Eon after Eon (A dinosaur love song)
>11) Be a Herbivore
>12) Snoozin' Time

I've seen the CD at a music store in Hawaii ("House of Music") and I think 
it's probably also available at the Disney stores.

I also got a "Dinosaurs: Big Songs" sampler tape when I got the Beauty
and the Beast video.

A few comments on some of the tracks (these are all IMHO, so they may or
may not be worth anything):

-- In A Perfect World:  Either a '50s or '60s type of song (at least I 
	think its style is, anyway).
-- I Wanna Be King:  Rock 'n roll fun -- dinosaur style!  ;-)
-- Stone Age Bayou:  Sort of a love ballad.  Kinda romantic.
-- Be A Herbivore:  Is this the one where Earl has a conversation with
	some of the food in the refrigerator, sort of?


--
===============  Dana Uehara (duehara@yosemite.atmos.ucla.edu) ==============
"A--lo--ha!  That there's Hawaiian for 'aloha'!"	-- Goofy
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mhw@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Murphy)
Subject: Re: Inconsistency in Aladdin.
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:50:18 GMT

In article <90969@bcsaic.boeing.com> vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver) writes:
>jhp@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Jim H. Puga) writes:
>>
>>When Aladdin and Princess Jasmine are flying on the carpet
>>during "A Whole New World," they fly across a full moon(Wonder
>>which movie that's from?).  Later when the song nears the end,
>>at the spot where the two hold hands and we see the reflections
>>of the fireworks on the water, the moon is CRESCENT SHAPED!!
>>
>>My only plausible answer is that there was a lunar eclipse going
>>on.
>>
>>Spooky, isn't it?
>>
>Yea, this has been discussed quite a bit here.  Someone suggested that
>they must be travelling fast enough to be in some kind of time warp and
>that explains the moon bit.  Just keep telling yourself IOADM (It's Only
>a Disney Movie!)

Ummmmmmm.. what about the possibility that they're in two different spots when
the moon is showing (say, Arabia and then China--I can't remember exactly
where they went), and since the moon's phases would be completely different in
those two spots... the problem is solved!

M.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Supermarkets near wdw
From: mikeho@seeker.mystic.com (Michael Ho)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:14:52 GMT
Organization: Mystic Software Pittsburg, Ca

In article <1993Jan20.104803.1157@uoft02.utoledo.edu> cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO) writes:
>
>Are you referring to the Buena Vista Crossroads?  I was informed that
>Disney owns the plaza and all shops inside it.

Perhaps... but that means they've gone into some serious franchise business,
because there's a Taco Bell, a T.G.I. Friday's, and some other chain-type
stuff in there.

I am more apt to believe that they do own the Crossroads but lease the space
out to franchises and such.  After all, there *is* a store selling Disney
paraphernalia in the center. :-)
-- 
()_()  ... Michael Ho
 (_)   ... Internet:  mikeho@seeker.mystic.com    UUCP:  ...!seeker!mikeho
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: inkblot@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas Calvin Cannon)
Subject: Re: How about ANIMATED Disney Movies
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 02:47:53 GMT

In article <1k4hdoINNghq@shelley.u.washington.edu> mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.215151.23231@leland.Stanford.EDU> inkblot@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas Calvin Cannon) writes:
>>In article <1jurrgINN2nj@mozz.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:

[ irrelevant stuff deleted]

>>
>>Just out of curiousity, why isn't Disney re-releasing SotS?  And (of course)
>>why, why, why not the Black Cauldron??
>>
>>T. Cannon
>>
>>
>I have heard it is because the movie portrays Uncle Remus, and other black
>characters, in a way that would be deemed "offensive" by today's standards.
>
>Would any Black American rec.arts.disney'ers care to comment? What did you
>think of this film?
>

   That's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure before I posted this...

   Having 20 years of experience as an African American, I can say that Song of
the South was a pretty 'unsettling' movie.  Sure, Uncle Remus was a good
guy and all, but was this the _only_ role that Disney could find for an
African American?  Up until recently, Disney's record on racial and gender
issues has been pretty shabby.  When you combine good ol' Uncle Remus with
those black crows from Dumbo (ug!) _and_ the portrayal of women  in
Cinderella and similar movies ( "let the women do the sewin' " ) , you get 
basically a repeating theme where women are victims and minorities are 
side-shows.  

    Fortunately, TLM, BatB, etc. have really started to break up the
traditional pattern.  We all know about the empowerment of the Disney
heroin, and I personally breathed a sigh of relief after seeing that the 
characters of Aladdin were tastefully drawn: neither 'dark caucasions' nor 
insulting Arabic charicatures.  

    At any rate, I think that a re-release of SotS would be a tragic 
mistake on Disney's part.  I for one know that I'd be offended if it was
re-released.  Heck, I saw it at a pretty young age, and even then I was able 
to see that it's portrayal of blacks wasn't too 'modern.'  I might feel 
differently if SotS was an animation masterpiece, but it just isn't.

enough rambling,

>-Denise
>********
>"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER

----------------------------------------
T. Cannon
inkblot@leland.stanford.edu
----------------------------------------
*************
SPECIAL NOTE:  
*************

1st positive (not-stereotypical) representation of an
African American by in a Disney animated feature: the Egyptian fellow carving 
the Sphinx in the 'A Whole New World' segment of _Aladdin_.  PLEASE PROVE
THIS WRONG, cause it'd be pretty depressing if I was right.
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From: inkblot@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas Calvin Cannon)
Subject: Re: How about ANIMATED Disney Movies
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 21:51:51 GMT

In article <1jurrgINN2nj@mozz.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>>>Will they EVER release the Balck Cauldron on video?  I've only ever seen
>>>it once, and would kill to see it again.
>>
>>No.  From what I have heard it will probably never be released.  For
>>different reasons, Song of the South will never be rereleased as well.
>
>I understand the reasons behind "Song of the South" (though believe them to
>be thoroughly unjustified), but what possible reasons could there be for
>not re-releasing "The Black Cauldron" ?

Just out of curiousity, why isn't Disney re-releasing SotS?  And (of course)
why, why, why not the Black Cauldron??

>-- 
>*****  The Rink  *****   Programming is an art form that fights back.
>***                ***
>* ss1@kepler.unh.edu *   "But that no man is justified by the law in the
>***                ***    sight of God, it is evident:  for, The just shall
>*****  Cheers!!  *****    live by faith."  --  Galatians 3:11
---
T. Cannon
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Thomas McCabe Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: when will Hall of Presidents be updated?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:02:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: shootist.ebay.sun.com


The word I heard on the news is late spring or early summer.. 


Of course, with the credibility of the media...

Tk
 
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