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From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: boot questions
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:31:29 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <92351.152420JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu> JDRESNO@auvm.american.edu (Joseph Dresnok III) writes:
>Howdy.
>I am going to have an opportunity to go to a bootleg record/CD store.
>I was wondering if anyone could give me some good suggestions for bootlegs
>that have good sound.  I'm interested in a studio bootleg (if they are out
>there), but live   would work for me too.  If I'm going to shell out the
>bucks for this stuff on CD, I don't want to wind up with junky sound.
>(Buying bootleg is such a crapshoot.)
>thanks,
>  joe

Paying cash for bootlegs prevents FZ from getting money for the work that
he does.  Tape traders (who usually refuse cash offers) have a much
larger inventory of bootlegs.  Althgouh the quality may not be quite as
good as a CD, some are still quite good.  There have a number of posts
here about tape trading on this net, although I admit that it can be
hard to get started.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: pvezina@uvmark.uucp (Philippe Vezina)
Subject: One size fits all
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:30:58 GMT
Organization: VMark Software, Inc.

    This is available on a Rykodisc Cd. Thoughts on it? It is a personal 
favorite of mine. Sound isn't bad at all when compared to the album (unlike
the Hot Rats Cd which in my opinion fared 50% better but at the same time
50% worse after the conversion to cd (just listen to Willie the Pimp). I
highly recommend One size Fits All.         

    By the way, What IS a Florentine Pogen? (I haven't read the book yet)


 Also, a question for anyone out there to answer: In the ZAPPA Guitar Player
special issue that was just put out, there is a different cover for 'The Best
Band that you never Heard Before' album (looks like a Japanese import due to 
the Japanese writing on the cover) in the discography section. Is this just a
different printing than the one I have or an actual import (Mine has the band
picture on it). That's a great album and I was lucky enough to catch that band
in Boston and Providence on that tour before they went to Europe and 'self
destructed' (according to Frank). Any takers?


Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: Lyric Question
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:25:58 GMT
Distribution: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <ROB.92Dec12120728@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> rob@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Rob Chauncey) writes:

>I have a lyric question.  On YCDTOSA #3, the song "Honey, Don't You
>Want a Man Like Me?," it goes:

>"She was an office girl
>Her name was Betty
>Her favorite group
>Was _____________
>(no, "Twisted Sister")"

>What is the original group name?  By email, if possible...Thanks.

Hellen Reddy

Not exactly a group, but that's the way it goes.

It gives it that perfect 70's singles scene touch too.
Along with, "They did the bump together"
"The Candles were drippy, they saw a real hippy"
"He was a playboy type, he smoked a pipe, 
his favorite phrase was 'outta sight"

Gotta love it.

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From: sullivan@cbmvax.commodore.com (Mike Sullivan - CSG)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Lyric Question
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:40:52 GMT
Reply-To: sullivan@cbmvax.UUCP (Mike Sullivan - CSG)
Distribution: na
Organization: MOS Technology, Valley Forge, PA

> Rob Chauncey writes:
>
>
> I have a lyric question.  On YCDTOSA #3, the song "Honey, Don't You
> Want a Man Like Me?," it goes:
>
> "She was an office girl
> Her name was Betty
> Her favorite group
> Was _____________
> (no, "Twisted Sister")"
>
> What is the original group name?  By email, if possible...Thanks.
>

In "LIVE FROM NEW YORK" (Late 70's):

"Her favorite group was HELEN REDDY"
 
 they discussed the weatherrrrr. 




Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: erikjan@icce.rug.nl (Erik-Jan Vens)
Subject: Re: One size fits all
Reply-To: E.J.Vens@icce.rug.nl (Erik-Jan Vens)
Calvin-And-Hobbes: Scientific Progress Goes **BOINK**
Organization: The ICCE Experience
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:41:08 GMT

In <1992Dec11.203058.55542@uvmark.uucp> pvezina@uvmark.uucp (Philippe Vezina)
writes:
>    By the way, What IS a Florentine Pogen? (I haven't read the book yet)

This has been answered something like a year ago by a Scandinavian reader who
--from the back of my mind-- remarked that a) these were cookies and b) these
were the same sort of cookies he bought at home. Judging from that description
I have always assumed these cookies are the same as the Florentine cookies in
one of my cookbooks.

EJee
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: Lyric Question
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:19:27 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology
Keywords: YCDTOSA #3

In <1992Dec16.235908.3190@nntp.hut.fi> f38024f@puukko.hut.fi ('O}cke' Oikarinen) writes:

>>>> I have a lyric question.  On YCDTOSA #3, the song "Honey, Don't You
>>>> Want a Man Like Me?," it goes:
>(the three first verses omitted)
>>>> Was _____________
>>>> (no, "Twisted Sister")"

>No, as far as YCDTOSA #3 is concerned(that was the original question),
>the line goes:
>(Her favourite group)
>Was Twisted Sister
>	And this last line is yelled, so that everybody would notice it...

No, you missed it entirely.  First the audience "sings" the original line,
which is "Hellen Reddy"

Frank then says "No, Twisted Sister"  Because that was the line they were
using that tour or that night, or whatever.  Maybe it was the secret word?

Then the audience "sings along" again with the line "Twisted Sister"

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From: bouche2@server.uwindsor.ca (BOUCHER DAVID            )
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Zappa Parody Quiz
Date: 12 Dec 1992 11:19:39 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

>> Lumpy Gravy "May you never hear surf music again"
>
>	Isn't this a direct quote from a Jimi Hendrix song? 3rd Stone 
>from the Sun if I remember correctly.

"Strange, beautiful, grassy green...
With your majestic, superior cackling hen...
Your people I do not understand
So to you I shall put an end...
And you will never hear
Surf music again..."

          Jimi Hendrix, "3rd Stone from the Sun"


Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: petrop@vccsouth20.its.rpi.edu (Philip A. Petrocelli)
Subject: Re: Lyric Question
Keywords: YCDTOSA #3
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:21:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.161927.9486@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>In <1992Dec16.235908.3190@nntp.hut.fi> f38024f@puukko.hut.fi ('O}cke' Oikarinen) writes:
>
>>the line goes:
>>(Her favourite group)
>>Was Twisted Sister
>>	And this last line is yelled, so that everybody would notice it...
>
>No, you missed it entirely.  First the audience "sings" the original line,
>which is "Hellen Reddy"
>
>Frank then says "No, Twisted Sister"  Because that was the line they were
>using that tour or that night, or whatever.  Maybe it was the secret word?

Well, remeber, the recording of that was made at the Pier in 1984 - one of the
years that Twisted Sister was INSANELY popular - I can remember the days of not
completing the day without listening to "Stay Hungry" in it's entirety - that
was pretty cool stuff in those days, altho the whole fag/drag makeup thing 
was stupid.

I love when Francesco pokes fun at the "Flavor of the month" groups - In that
same concert, during "Don't You Want a Man Like Me?" the band does that whole
Culture Club thing that never ceases to get me laughing my ass off...

>    / \      Reverend fnord                 | "King Kong died for your sins!"


Phil, petrop@rpi.edu
From: bouche2@server.uwindsor.ca (BOUCHER DAVID            )
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Lyric Question "Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me?"
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:21:47 GMT
Distribution: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

In article <ROB.92Dec12120728@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> rob@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Rob Chauncey) writes:

>"She was an office girl
>Her name was Betty
>Her favorite group
>Was

HELEN REDDY!   

For those who don't remember who she was, her biggest hit was "I Am Woman",
back in the early 1970's... the famous feminist anthem.  She also had another
hit, "Delta Dawn", and something else I can't remember.

- db

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>(no, "Twisted Sister")"
>
>What is the original group name?  By email, if possible...Thanks.
>
>Rob
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: subotic@osl440a.erim.org (Nik Subotic)
Subject: hot_rats_cover
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:04:14



After downloading the Hot Rats cover .gif file (thanks to those who
took the time to scan it, etc.!) a question came back to mind.  Who is
the person peering out?  Just wondering.........

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: New Release Query
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:22:18 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <ROB.92Dec16235029@colossus.cs.oberlin.edu> rob@colossus.cs.oberlin.edu (Rob Chauncey) writes:

>I called the Barking Pumpkin hotline the other day, and they mentioned
>a new, two-disc release from the Flo' and Eddy days.  This was my
>favorite incarnation of Zappa's band, so, of course, I am wanting very
>much to get ahold of it.  Unfortunately, I have forgotten the name,
>and info.  Does anyone have it?  I.e, what the name is, when it's
>released, etc.

It is called "Playground Psychotics" and has been out for a few months.

From what I hear it is excellent although there is a large percentage of
"filler" 

Frank is suffering from a diseasae (other than prostate cancer) these days.
He hires only the best musicians, rehearses them to death, and then
releases "live" recordings of them playing cards in the dressing room.  As
if we care.  The Baby Snakes video suffers from this as well.

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From: FELSON_ADJ@CCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: pOjAma
Date: 14 Dec 1992 15:32:42 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

! From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
! 
! In article <jdk2001-141292120947@m248-102.bgsu.edu> jdk2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Heff ) writes:
! >I might be moving to Montana soon.
! I'm selling one (1) slightly used Zircon Encrusted Tweezer if you're interested
! 
gonna be a mental toss flycoon!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: ghatch@NeoSoft.com (Greg Hatch)
Subject: Re: Baritone Women
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:35:12 GMT

In article <104602@bu.edu> drjim@acs.bu.edu (James Shanahan) writes:
>What exactly is "Baritone Women" about, anyway?

Although it would be easy to construe this song as being about lesbian business
women, it is actually about men.  Wall Street power broker's carry all their
papers, wallets, cards, etc. in large leather portfolios, which look like 
purses--hence the Baritone voices.

Hope I have helped in the never ending quest for more Zappa information. 


>
>-js
>
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>| Boston University                      fax - 617-353-3405      |


-- 
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.
"You never forget how to fuck--unless you're really, really stupid!"
         Frank Zappa in June, 1991 interview in Budapest
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: WIEMANS@KUBVX1.KUB.NL (Paul Wiemans)
Subject: Re: Zappa GIF
Organization: Tilburg university (KUB) - The Netherlands
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:07:55 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

In <7836@news.duke.edu> jle1@teer24.acpub.duke.edu writes:

> 
> Keywords: 
> 
> Does anyone out there have or know of any Frank Zappa gifs?
> I have been looking all over but have been unable to find any.
> If you have one could you please post it so I, and others, can get
> hold of it.
> thanks
> jason ekedahl


Just ftp to cs.uwp.edu and in the directory /pub/music/pictures/zappa.frank
you'll find a large collection of gif's. These are mostly scanned covers of
lp's and cd's. Converted to .bmp (the shareware version of Paint Shop does
a nice job) you can even use them as Windows wallpape

-Paul
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: srm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.r.marcovici)
Subject: Re: zappa/sting
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:08:19 GMT

In article <marcl.723934410@os-d> marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis) writes:
>chettri@huey.udel.edu (Expressio Veri) writes:
>
>>>BTW -- the song "Murder by numbers" is embedded within a song called
>>>"Stolen Moments" which I believe was written by Lee Ritenauer.  
>>                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^`
>>Lee Ritenour did a cover of this (as did Stanley Jordan). However,
>>the original version was  by Oliver Nelson and featured Eric Dolphy.
>>So, I'd say that Zappa's cover was probably "meditations for Eric."
>
>Thanks for the correction on the song's origin.  It's called "Stolen
>Moments" on the CD (which, as others have pointed out is BROADWAY THE
>HARD WAY).

Well, on my "Broadway..." CD, "Murder By Numbers" is credited separately,
FOLLOWING "Stolen Moments" (w/ writing credits for "MbN" given to Sting and
Andy Summers). I didn't have a chance to re-listen to see if it is somehow
embedded within "Stolen Moments", but the individual credit is certainly
listed. The impression I got from the previous postings was that this
was not the case (i.e., no separate credit for "Murder By Numbers").

-Steve  srm@garage.att.com

Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: Lyric Question
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:29:17 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology
Keywords: YCDTOSA #3

In <tnp294-@rpi.edu> petrop@vccsouth20.its.rpi.edu (Philip A. Petrocelli) writes:

>I love when Francesco pokes fun at the "Flavor of the month" groups - In that
>same concert, during "Don't You Want a Man Like Me?" the band does that whole
>Culture Club thing that never ceases to get me laughing my ass off...

The '84 Tinseltown Rebellion has a lot of that as well:

....
And if your new wave group looks good, they'll hurry on back for more
Of leather groups:
   --  "...(?)... Rock you like a nincompoop"
And plastic groups:
   -- "Whip it good"
And groups that look real queer:
   -- "I'll tumble 4 ya...."
But then again this system works as perfect as a dream
It works for all those record company pricks
Who come to skim the cream
From the cesspools of excitement where Jim Morrison once stood.

(That last being one of my all time favorite lyrics).

Not completely fair to make fun of Devo, even though they deserved it
during their "whip it" days.  They knew what they were doing, and
intentionally made themselves into their own caricature.
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From: tclark@Apple.COM (Tom Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: YCDTOSA Vol 6?
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:20:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Dec15.005353.12648@verity.com> anders@verity.com (Anders Wallgren) writes:
>Has anyone seen volume 6 in stores in the South Bay area?  I've
>checked Tower and most of the other chains, but haven't been able
>to get a hold of it.
>
>anders

I got mine from the Compact Disc Connection in Sunnyvale.  As far as I know
they are just an on-line service. (408) 730-9015 8-N-1 up to 9600 baud.

I got vols. 5&6 with the box for $59.36.

-Tom

Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: rob@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Rob Chauncey)
Subject: Lyric Question
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:07:28 GMT
Distribution: alt.fan.frank-zappa
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I have a lyric question.  On YCDTOSA #3, the song "Honey, Don't You
Want a Man Like Me?," it goes:

"She was an office girl
Her name was Betty
Her favorite group
Was _____________
(no, "Twisted Sister")"

What is the original group name?  By email, if possible...Thanks.

Rob
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From: drjim@acs.bu.edu (James Shanahan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Re: Parody Quiz Winners
Date: 10 Dec 92 15:54:49 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1g5flaINN74j@skat.usc.edu> sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet) writes:
>
>	After careful consideration and review of all the answers submitted,
>I declare the winner to be Jim Shanahan (drjim@acs.bu.edu), who answered
>most correctly and completely.

I'd like to thank the members of the academy, and my high school piano
teacher who turned me on to FZ.  I'd also like to thank my wife, who
has endured endless hours of FZ, and was also a sturdy rock throughout
the entire week when I couldn't resist muttering 'the influence of the
beef pies' to myself as a reassuring mantra.

And now Rob, tell me what I've won!!

>	Jim, I hope you will enjoy the Voodoo Butter underpants that are
>on their way to your mailbox.  The rest of you will have to be content with
>mere "replicas".  The replicas look just like the original, but are without
>the wonderful aroma.
>
Thanks, I'm makig a quilt.  Really!!






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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: brian@dsm.fordham.edu (Brian Downing)
Subject: Re: zappa/sting
Organization: Fordham University/CLC, Division of Science and Math
	<1992Dec10.191105.17704@unlv.edu>
	<1992Dec10.223429.12121@news.media.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:50:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.223429.12121@news.media.mit.edu> ben@media.mit.edu (Benjamin Kline Lowengard) writes:

	[... set bandwith_economy_mode=1 ...]

   (Jesus thinks youre a jerk ..is so good even my kid likes it)
   I'll have to bone up on it tonight to remember distinct parts
   but the whole album does come off as a political carnival. Net folks
   please comment....

   benj

 Without a doubt BwayTHW has sent me out the front door in the morning
 humming more than once. The songs are all excellent and this is
 definately a distinctive album in terms of style, religious and
 political satire are also at their best. It seems that at this point
 Frank had just gotten Warner Bros. off his ass and his newfound
 artistic freedom shines though on this album. I also agree that
 "Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk" is a great number.


--

 Brian...

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: jdk2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Heff )
Subject: pOjAma
Followup-To: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Organization: B.G.S.U.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:08:00 GMT

I might be moving to Montana soon.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
From: Tom Benedict <tbenedic@halcyon.com>
Subject: Frank Zappa Cancer Status?
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:40:17 GMT

Anybody know what the state of Frank Zappa's Cancer is?  How's he doin'?
From: drjim@acs.bu.edu (James Shanahan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Baritone Women
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:53:51 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: drjim@acs.bu.edu

What exactly is "Baritone Women" about, anyway?

-js

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.piers-anthony
From: ghesmiz@brahms.udel.edu (Michael Macchione)
Subject: Re: Panties
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:14:50 GMT

In article <Jason_Mulligan.02kl@camelot.apana.org.au> Jason_Mulligan@camelot.apana.org.au (Jason Mulligan) writes:
>Has anyone read the new Xanth book, 'The Color of her Panties'? Is ot any
>good?
>
>     -Jason
>
As compared to the earlier Xanth novels or some of his other series, no
it's not very good.  It gets sappy and silly in a lot of places, in a
childish sort of way. It does hit upon some good issues, but it doesn't
become of interest to the reader.  

I'm not trying to say the book is a total loss.  There are a lot of good
jokes and appearances of some of the better characters from previous
novels.  

If you have read the rest of the series, then you'll probably enjoy TCOHP
but I would not start reading the Xanth series from this point.

Mike Macchione

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