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From: greg@arrakis.apana.org.au (Greg Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Distribution: world
Subject: How much RAM do I have?
Organization: /dev/null -- the place where everyone dumps on
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:00:04 +1030

Has someone written a program which determins how much ram you have left
for AmigaMINIX?  I only have 3 meg, and when running two tcsh's
and elm, I tend to run out of ram fast...

I have seen one for the PC, but that requires some include files
which I do not have.

Any help would be muchly appreciated.

Greg.
From: nemossan@uitec.ac.jp (Sakurao NEMOTO)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: BUG or Spec?? TAB-expansion enters infinite-loop.
Keywords: kernel/console.c, TAB expansion, LINEWRAP, multiples of TAB-size
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:30:33 GMT
Organization: Univ. Industrial Tech., Sagamihara, JAPAN

This is  originally posted  by takamiti@mix  to the Forum  "minix" in
Mix, Japanese BBS.

=====================================================================
You will see TAB-expansion part in out_char() of kernel/console.c  as
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
do {
  if (tp->tty_column >= LINE_WIDTH - 1 || tp->tty_rwords >= TTY_RAM_WORDS) {
    out_char(tp, ' ');
  } else {
    tp->tty_ramqueue[tp->tty_rwords++] = one_con_attribute | ' ';
    tp->tty_column++;
  }
} while (tp->tty_column & TAB_MASK);
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is Recursive-routine if there is/are TAB-code after "LINE_WIDTH"
to call out_char() itself.  If (1) LINEWRAP is ON,  or (2) LINE_WIDTH
is multiple of TAB_MASK (8),  it may be OK.   But if LINE_WRAP is OFF
out_char() returns do  nothing,  thus  value of "tty_column"  remains
*UNchanged*,  this leads  to  infinitesimal  "do-while" loop,  unless
LINE_WIDTH is multiples of TAB_MASK.

Is this BUG or Spec?  If the latter, we cannot use display other than
column-width of which is multiples of TAB-size, meaning we cannot use
132-columns etc in LINEWRAP is OFF.
=====================================================================
translated into broken-English by nemossan@mix == nemossan@uitec.ac.jp
From: fpp@minor.UUCP (Frank Pursel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Distribution: world
Subject: Partial solutions: getting 1.6.16 upgrade working on PC
Keywords: MINIX, upgrade
Organization: UUCP
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:47:40 +0100

Hey Guys and Gals,

The responses to my last cry for help were heard and resulted in success!
The reason 'build' failed and couldn't find the magic numbers was that
I had incorrectly modified the Makefiles for mm, fs, and init to not
link in 'head.o'.  The new compiler does not install a copy of head.o
when set up.  You must recompile the old 
'head.s' file using 'sconv' and 'as'.  Now build works like a champ.

I'm not out of the woods yet though.  I've made an image disk and loaded
the parts onto a shoelace disk.  Either way 1.6.16 crashes during intialization.
Menu works fine.  Under shoelace I get a constantly running floppy drive and
a flashing white cursor at the lower left corner of the screen.  With the 
image disk, I get stopped drives and a flashing white cursor at the lower
left screen corner.  I guess it's time to start reading code!

Thanks again for the help on the previous problem.  I will keep posting 
solutions as I figure them out.  

Frank Pursel  peora!jwt!minor!fpp
From: pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: question
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:54:22 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies
Originator: pr@fnord.umiacs.umd.edu



Well, I asked for FAQ list but no one responded so I will go ahead and post
my question. 

WHAT IS MINIX?

Jesus M. Rodriguez
pr@umiacs.umd.edu
From: newton@monty.apana.org.au (Mark Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: lex-yacc
Organization: APANA South Australia - State mail hub
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 00:58:53 +1030

omar%ICMSC.USP.BR@uicvm.uic.edu () writes:
> I need somebody who know or have a version of Lex and Yacc for Minix.

Check out ftp.uni-koeln.de.  There's a lot of good stuff there, including
the Berkeley yacc that I use here.

   - mark

--------------------------------------------------------------------
"Do not worry about an infinite            newton@monty.apana.org.au
supply of gibbons..." - Al Dearle                        Mark Newton
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From: bf795@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James Abendschan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Fix for last(1) and write(1)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 05:32:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


It's a uue'd bunch of data.  You capture it, bring it into minix,
type uud [filename] and the real file comes out.  This is done
because text-based nets like internet can't handle the entire
ascii set being sent in a message; uue turns all the "unprintable"
characters into "printable" equivalents...

Okay, now for my question.  I've got MacMINIX 1.5.10 or something
along those lines.. when will the upgrades be available for the
mac?  Will they be on plains.nodak.edu or elsewhere?

Where can I get a new version of cron?  Mine dies if it runs out of memory..
chmem +bignumbers does nothing..

When will telnet be ported to the Macintosh?

Where can I get an Appletalk.s file?  My distribution didn't include it.

If you'd like to make a personal reply, please send it to shamus@pro-phx.cts.com
.. I don't get to read this newsgroup very often [or use this account,
for that matter]

Thanks...
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: John Pingel <pingel@sscvx1.ssc.gov>
Subject: Questions for MacMinix Users/Hackers
Organization: SSC Laboratory, Dallas Texas
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:02:55 GMT


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From: burgess@hrd769.brooks.af.mil (Dave Burgess)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Re: Can't boot minix from 486/dx
Date: 17 Nov 1992 08:44:28 -0600
Organization: Armstrong Lab MIS, Brooks AFB TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: hrd769.brooks.af.mil
Summary: 16 Megs of Memory Strikes again.

In article <1992Nov15.084622.10886@u.washington.edu> aklee@stein.u.washington.edu (A. K. Lee) writes:
>Hi, netters,
>
>I just replaced my 286 motherboard with a 486/33 (16 MB RAM).
>Although I can get shoelace to start, a 'not enough
>memory' message prevents it to furthur activate the boottrap
>and therefore hang the system.
>
>Can minix run on 486? If yes, what should I do to resolve
>this problem? Thanks.
>
>aklee
>
>

  This is a known bug.  There is a patch to correct it (somewhere).  Basically,
the boot program will report your memory, modulo 16Meg, as the amount of
memory available to the system.  16Meg mod 16Meg = 0, therefore you have no
memory.  The simpleminded fix is to buy more memory (amazing that 16meg isn't
enough for Minix, eh? :-)  Another alternative might be to reduce the amount
of memory you have, boot Minix, fix the problem, and put your memory back.  

Have Fun...

TSgt Dave Burgess
NCOIC AL/MIS
From: YHOU@scuacc.scu.edu
Subject: Fix for last(1) and write(1)
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:15:00 GMT

>can show such a user but can not find it if explecitely given.
>Below are context diffs of my fixes. The cdiffs are relative to
>the 1.5 sources.
> 
>table
> !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?
>@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_
>begin 644 lw.shar.Z
>M'YV-9<:@>0,"#X@6(-B$F4/'Q1@R:<PHF%.&#(@3+[Q@>3'GA<<3('PD7-CPz
>M8400/'A<?'%" 185,$&\J#-'#D<Y8UZ,>=.F31@W9#HJ9.@0!(@Q.'O$N#'#y
>M1@ZC('+$D)K B)PT((+ D0-"!HRN,G30H*%#!@X04W/ <-FB[4BB8XPB'=-#x

What is this ?

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From: meulenbr@ce.philips.nl (Frans Meulenbroeks)
Subject: Re: Bug in fs Minix1.6.23
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:12:18 GMT

flebbe@wega.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Olaf Flebbe) writes:

>Hi,

>I discovered a bug in the 1.6.23 fs, while using test21. Here a quote
>from source of do_rename() in fs/link.c

>do_rename() {
>[...]
>  struct inode *old_dirp, *old_ip;	/* ptrs to old dir, file inodes */
>[ ...]
>  if ( (old_ip = advance(old_dirp, old_name)) == NIL_INODE) r = err_code;
>[ ... (no return statements) ...]
>  odir = ((old_ip->i_mode & I_TYPE) == I_DIRECTORY);  /* TRUE iff dir */

>The source describes how to get a pointer to the inode of file
>old_name and how to test, whether it is a directory. But suppose
>advance fails, then advance will return a NIL_INODE, which fs tries to
>derefence. ->Crash. 

[...]

>Is there already a "official" patch around?

Yes. add:
  if (old_ip != NIL_INODE)
before the line
	odir = ((old_ip->i_mode & I_TYPE) == I_DIRECTORY);  /* TRUE iff dir */

This will be part of the next version.

Enjoy,
--
Frans Meulenbroeks		Philips Research Laboratories
preferred email address: 	meulenbr@prl.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Simulation of INMOS ANSI-C Toolset on IBM-AT
From: slfjd@saturn.ee.usu.edu (sane sachin arvind)
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:03:59 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Utah State University

Hi !,
My friend in India is working on transputer based systems using PC as a host. 
He is working on a project "Simulation of INMOS ANSI-C Toolset on IBM-AT".
It involves writing a multitasking kernel for IBM with DOS.
If you can help me getting any litt. related to this it will be of great
help to me and him. He has already read material from Tanenbaum's book on
O.S. which has the complete source code of MINIX (mini UNIX) and one on
The XINU approach.
 
The key thing is that it should all go with DOS.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
- Sachin Sane
 

Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Shannon Hendrix <shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu>
Subject: Re: Simulation of INMOS ANSI-C Toolset on IBM-AT
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:33:47 GMT

> 
> Hi !,
> My friend in India is working on transputer based systems using PC as a host.
> He is working on a project "Simulation of INMOS ANSI-C Toolset on IBM-AT".
> It involves writing a multitasking kernel for IBM with DOS.
> If you can help me getting any litt. related to this it will be of great
> help to me and him. He has already read material from Tanenbaum's book on
> O.S. which has the complete source code of MINIX (mini UNIX) and one on
> The XINU approach.
> 
> The key thing is that it should all go with DOS.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> - Sachin Sane
> 

	C-Users Journal just had an article on real-time multitasking
execs for DOS (and other systems) and an article on state-machine multi-
taskers.  You can get a multi-tasking system for DOS from Mix Software
(makers of PowerC compiler) that does multi-threaded DOS apps.  Dr. Dobbs,
C-Users Journel, Midnight Engineering, PC Techniques and mags like that
cover multitasking execs quite often.  Also, the GNU source code examples
includes a multi-tasking C++ exec.
 


=====================================================
Shannon Hendrix                |shendrix@pcs.cnu.edu
Christopher Newport University |--------------------- 
Newport News, VA               |** space for rent **
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From: flebbe@wega.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Olaf Flebbe)
Subject: Minix 1.6.23 for ST
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:58:32 GMT

Hi,

here a few hints for everybody using a ST and trying to upgrade to
1.6.23 with the K&R ack compiler.

Frans Meulenbroeks mentions in his INSTALL file to exchange several
files in the libc.a library. If you want to compile the new
commands, you have  to exchange the
following files too:
  other/fslib.o other/mtab.o other/fsversion.o and other/nlist.o
The following  compiler flags where needed for many of the commands:
 -D__ACK__ -D_EM_WSIZE=2

greetings
--
  Olaf Flebbe,  Theoretische Astrophysik Tuebingen
  Internet:     flebbe@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de
From: fpp@minor.UUCP (Frank Pursel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Distribution: world
Subject: Minix 1.6.16 on plains.nodak.edu
Keywords: MINIX, updates
Organization: UUCP
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 01:52:33 +0100

Hello people,

OK, I'm reformed.  I now carefully check to see that the patches applied
through scripts take.  One of the reasons I have had trouble with this 
update is that I didn't make certain that all my sources were clean
original 1.5.10 Minix sources.  Some of the diffs did not take and 
then I compounded the problem by making further changes on my own to
try and fix the problems.  Now I've gone back to basics and checked all
the include files ( /include, /include/sys, and /include/minix ) against
the 1.6.16.crc listing to be certain everything is as it should be.
I've done the same with /src1.6.16/kernel and everything matches perfectly
with the exception of the Makefile; I made small changes reflecting my use
of the ANSI compiler.  When I 'make dummy', which is what must be done to
compile the kernel, all compiles well, but the link fails because 
the functions "sigaddset, sigemptyset, and sigismember" are not present.
I encountered this problem before and recall that I was easily able to 
figure out what these functions did and replace the code, but I again
will end up with "unofficial code" that will make life difficult when
I try future updates from 1.6.16.  Were these functions ommitted, or 
am I still overlooking something?  Were some patches for this created that
I missed?  Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,
Frank Pursel peora!jwt!minor!fpp
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Patrick Draper <draper@ais.org>
Subject: unsuscribe
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:32:11 GMT

Unsuscribe
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From: Gianni.Marchetti%bbs@osra.sublink.org (Gianni Marchetti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: Minix Availability
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:16:17 GMT
Organization: OSRA Sistemi Srl - Torino, Italy
X-Posting-Software: UnixBBS 1.02agcc S/N 345911

Help! Could someone explain me where I can find Minix in Italy? I'd like
also some more info about Minix itself.
Thanks,
         Gianni.Marchetti%bbs@osra.sublink.org
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Subject: Minix386 Software
Distribution: world
Organization: private
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:34:13 +0000

  
   Minix 386 can anybody tell me where I can ftp Emacs18.57 binary from
   and second having ftp'd the mar/92 posting PC 1.5 core analysis and
   can now get registers and stack frames from core dumps is there any
   writeup available on how decode them to find the cause of the dump.
     
                Thanks in advance for any help,
                        Philip Jones
  
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  |  Philip H Jones     email --  phil@plisgyn.demon.co.uk                 |
  |                     phone --  +44 81-521-9966                             |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: Ro.Prsl@skailab.mii.lt
Subject: lex-yacc
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:55:24 GMT

help
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From: meulenbr@prl.philips.nl (Frans Meulenbroeks)
Subject: atari 1.6.23 bug+fix
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories Eindhoven, Netherlands
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:49:16 GMT

It has been pointed out to me by Olaf Flebbe, that the fs and mm
makefile for the K&R compiler lacks a -c option when linking. 

You must add a -c after every occurrence of $(LD) and ${LD} 
(in the fs and mm makefiles).

Thanks Olaf.

-- 
Frans Meulenbroeks        (meulenbr@prl.philips.nl)
	Philips Research Laboratories
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: jrogers@world.std.com (John D Rogers)
Subject: to : Henrique Gomez
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:42:01 GMT

Sorry to waste net bandwidth for this, but my attempts to contact this 
person directly failed.
 
To : Henrique Gomez (L36476@beta.ist.pt)
 
MacMinix is a commericial (ie. not available for ftp) implementation of 
Unix for the Macintosh, sold through Prentice Hall.  Additional 
information is available from the info sheet, on "plains.nodak.edu" (which IS
available for ftp).  Back issues of comp.os.minix are on "vm1.nodak.edu".

Hope this helps! 
 
John D. rogers    jrogers@world.std.com


Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
From: mapad@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R M Green)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: tnet on Atari ST Minix
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:17:37 GMT
Organization: Maths Institute, Warwick University, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: edam.csv.warwick.ac.uk


Hi there.

Has anyone managed to get the TNET source posted a few days ago to work on 
Minix for the Atari ST?

I am running version 1.5 (with M-Kernel) and I managed to compile everything
with gcc (with a bit of trouble as some of the function prototypes are
wrong).  I also put in the OS patches, except the ones relating to ptys
because my kernel already has ptys and the select() system call.

What happens, for example, when I run the finger program, is that tnet
forks and execs fingerd as required, and then (according to ps) both fingerd
and finger block on XPIPE.

Can anyone see what is going wrong?

Thanks,

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From: YHOU@scuacc.scu.edu
Subject: Mboot (Re: MXboot for Linux)
Originator: mmdf@louie.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 10:52:00 GMT

X-News: scuacc info-minix:10281

>Have you tried 4? Don't assume anything. That is what I learned from
>mboot. It works fine with me. You can get mboot.tar.Z from tsx-11
>under pub/linux/GCC/rootdisk.

where is tsx-11 ?
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From: meulenbr@ce.philips.nl (Frans Meulenbroeks)
Subject: atari minix
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:33:25 GMT

Hi atari minixers.

Just a short note to tell you that my hard disk died a week ago.
I do have backups from most of my stuff, but if you have send me
patches/fixes in the past which are not in 1.6.23 then they are maybe
lost.

So, if you have send me patches please mail them again.

Thanks,
--
Frans Meulenbroeks		Philips Research Laboratories
preferred email address: 	meulenbr@prl.philips.nl
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Bi-directional printing with KXP-1124
Summary: Can you do it?
Keywords: KXP-1124, bi-directional
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:25:24 GMT

  Real simple.  I've got a friend without net access who has a KXP-1124
that he cannot get to print bi-directional from within windows.  (It will
print bi-directional in graphics outside of windows).

  My questions are:

  1) Has anybody gotten this to work?

  2) Will any of the after market drivers for the printer available via FTP
     do the trick?

  Thanks for any info you care to share.

-Matth


          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Hanley)
Subject: Searching for video driver
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 16:50:41 EST

     I'm currently using an IBM 8515 monitor on a PS/2 model
55SX and wish to get 256 colors.  I know this is possible 
because when I use a program like CSHOW or Graphics Workshop
I do get 256 colors.  Granted these programs come with their
own drivers, but surely there must be one for Windows.
     I was told that the 8515 wasn't widely supported and the
VGA driver was the one to use, but that there was a compatible
driver out there that would allow me to have 256 colors.  Any
help would be appreciated.

-matt

Matthew Hanley
mwhanley@mailbox.syr.edu
From: mcc0798@cuphub.cup.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Windows and SHARE.EXE?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:38:47 GMT
Organization: California University of Pennsylvania, California, PA




	How is SHARE.EXE best used on a Windows system?
	How important is it and what parameters should it have?
	Should it be load in CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT?


Dan the Man                                  Internet:  mcc0798@cuphub.cup.edu
      "Life was easy when it was boring" -- Gordon Matthew Sumner (Sting)
      (from his Police days)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: ezachris@dakota.ucs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: TV Windows
Keywords: tv multimedia
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:10:35 GMT


Hi, netters/couch-potatoes!

I'm using Win/TV from Hauppauge Computer Works, $439 from PC Connect.
It shows a clear picture in any Windows window with resolutions up to  
1024x768 (interlaced, 800x600 and 640x480 non-interlaced). Your VGA card  
must have a feature-connector to use Win/TV.

It takes the output from your VGA card from the feature connector,  
super-imposes the TV image onto the computer-generated Windows-screen and  
sends the output directly to the monitor. As far as the computer is  
concerned the Win/TV window (fully resizable - it will even continue to  
display a TV picure as an icon) is just another window (static). 

In fact, if you do a screen capture to grab the TV window, all you get is  
a pink window where your TV image is. This is because the Win/TV board  
uses the same technology that let's your local weather-man stand in front  
of the weather-map. If you do want to grab the picture Win/TV has a  
freeze-frame button.  

Espen Zachrisen
Indiana University
ezachris@arapahoe.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: davidr@davidr.mentorg.com (David Ransier)
Subject: Re: 486DX 33 & 486DX2 "50"
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:15:13 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1992Oct21.220040.22080@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
|> In <1992Oct20.120625.2937@animal.inescn.pt> jml@bruna.inescn.pt (Joao Miguel Leitao) writes:
|> 
|> >Hi there,
|> 
|> >I'll buy a 486 computer next days.  I  can buy at near the same price a 486DX 33MHz 
|> >or a 486DX 25MHz (50MHz inside the processor). 
|> 
|> >I want to know which one would run MSWindows faster. 
|> >Is there any body who tested a 486DX2 "50MHz" ?
|> 
|> How fast it runs Windows is going to depend more on the video board
|> than on the CPU.  Buy the 486-33DX.  There will be a plug in
|> replacement 486-66DX2 available if you decide later on that it isn't
|> fast enough, and it will access memory much faster.
|> 
|> -- 
|> "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
|>  in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.

Check with the person selling the computer.  I just bought a 486DX2-50 that will accept
any chip from a 386 up to a 486DX2-66 (a jumper changes the clock) and will accept
the P5 when it is available.  the difference between the 486DX-33 and the 486DX2-50 was
about $50.  The DX2-50 was clearly the better choice for me.

I agree on the video card being the real differentiator for Windows speed.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc