HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dani@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dan Ichikawa)
Subject: Re: Randy Johnson
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:47:44 GMT

In article <14f58mINNe51@agate.berkeley.edu> hankwong@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Y. Wong) writes:
>
>I've got Randy Johnson in my starting rotation, and to be honest he's been
>quite a disappointment, at least in terms of wins.  Any thoughts on whether
>I should hold on to him???  I'm contending for first place in wins,
>contending for fourth in ERA, and hold a shaky third in saves.  Walks are not
>a category (otherwise I would have never drafted him.)  If I do dump Johnson,
>I've got, among others, Doug Jones, Terry Mulholland, and Mark Gubicza who I
>could replace him with.  Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>]
>Hank Wong
>General Manager, Renegade Legion
>Students of the University of California Keeping Stats (SUCKS)

I would get rid of Johnson, preferably 8 weeks ago!  I'm of the opinion that
Johnson is a much better real pitcher than rotisserie player.  The guy's so
gawdawful wild, he'll kil your ratio (in real life, he strikes out enough guys
that the walks don't hurt him as much).  Figure he's a starter for a team
with no bullpen at all, and you end up with a LOT of bad innings.
 
I myself traded Johnson in week 3 (after bidding $15 for him -ouch-), for
Danny Darwin.  Darwin kind of sucks, but I'm glad I made the trade.  He's
vultured as many wins than Johnson has earned, picked up a few saves, and
though his ratio and ERA are Johnsonian, they were obtained in fewer innings.
In other words, the absolute number of earned runs, hits, and walks he's
given up are more readily diluted than Johnson's.  

I would dump Johnson in favor of a Darwin-type middle reliever.  But, man, 
if you have Doug Jones on reserve, you're in much better shape.  Activate
Jones.  Whatever he lost last year, he's refound it and is a top candidate
for comeback player of the year.  Johnson wasn't doing a whole lot to help
your league-leading win total, but Jones will definitely help your save
totals.

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From: sfh@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven F. Hubbard)
Subject: Ellis Burks
Reply-To: sfh@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven F. Hubbard)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:06:25 GMT



   Any news on when Burks might be back with the Sox?

SfH
-- 
Steven F. Hubbard                 **  That restaurant is so crowded that 
Case Western Reserve University   **    nobody goes there anymore. 
Department of Physics             ** 
Cleveland, OH 44106               **                   Yogi Berra
Organization: University Libraries - Library Automatio, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:40:56 -0400 
From: Richard Schall <rs0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Where Do I Start???
	<1992Jul21.210038.24169@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Distribution: na

Our league is a little bit different than the standard
fantasy league, but I thought this information might
help. 

We only have 6 managers. This allows for a large pool
of players (only one League) to choose from, and a chance for the last
place manager to turn his team around and stay in the
race (if only for the second or third place stakes).
 
Names are pulled from a hat to see who goes first in 
the draft. After the first six players are chosen, the
draft continues in reverse order (makes for interesting
strategy). 9 hitters chosen, one being a DH, and 6 pitchers, one
must be a closer.

Points are awarded only for offense. With Excel or Lotus,
time spent is minimal. It's good to have two statisticians,
just to catch mistakes. The formula for points
awarded each week is as follows:

Hitters: 3(runs + rbi) + ttl bases + (sb - cs) + bb

Pitchers: 6(ip - er + wins) + 3(games + saves) - (hits + bb)

These formulas place equal weight on both pitchers and hitters.

Stats are taken from USA Today on Tuesday (AL) or Wednesday (NL).
Player changes have to be made on Monday, DL moves first then
inverse order of standings. You can protect a player on the DL or
just drop him.

Split: 60-30-10

Set starting fee, with additional fee for weekly winner.

Set fee for moves made and to protect a player.

Two position players fate decided at All Star break: 33% of
games at position to qualify.

Freeze on trades as per Major League date.

Two player changes per week.

Claiming a player from the DL (not protected), you must use
the player for at least a week.

--------------------
!!!Richard Schall!!!
rs0i+@andrew.cmu.edu

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From: alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: guzman
Reply-To: alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:41:03 GMT

Does anybody how seriously injured Juan Guzman of the Jays is? I need my ace.
Thanks for info.
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From: dmeister@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Darren Meister)
Subject: Re: duane ward
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:24:04 GMT

In article <BruEIv.9H4@news.udel.edu> brady@brahms.udel.edu (Joseph Brady) writes:
>
>I am offered Toronto's Ward, in return for a good 
>pick in next year's draft.
>
>Need opinions on Ward. How will he do the rest of the
>year, do you think? Is he healthy, not in the doghouse,
>how has he been doing lately? 
>
>Thanks to all,
>Joe


Ward probably won't pick up a lot of saves for the rest of the year. He's the
number one set up man for Henke and will come in to pitch the eight
most of the time. He and Henke havn't been seeing a lot of action in the
past few weeks because the Jays have been (a) losing, (b) winning by a lot
or (c) coming from behind in the ninth or xtra-innings. Therefore, no save
situation for Henke and it seems that Ward usually only comes in before
Henke. That's not a hard and fast rule but ... For next year though, Ward
could be an excellent pickup. Henke is a free-agent at the end of the year
and with White and Carter also as free agents, the Blue Jays may spend they're
money on the other players out there and on White and Carter rather than
trying to keep Henke. Ward has proven when Henke is not available that
he is an excellent closer. So, Ward *may* be in line for a bunch of saves
next year.


-- 
Darren Meister                                  dmeister@watserv1.waterloo.edu
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From: desilets@src.umd.edu ()
Subject: Lance Blankenship status
Originator: desilets@galaxy.src.umd.edu
Organization: Systems Research Center, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:36:31 GMT


  Anyone know the status of Lance Blankenship?  I recall that he had
  hurt and possibly broken a hand, but I haven't seen mention of his
  having been placed on the DL, and he certainly isn't playing.

  Thanks in advance.


							Mark
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From: roth@ravel.udel.edu (Charles M Roth)
Subject: Re: pitching predictions wanted
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:02:40 GMT

In article <mcmath-210792073728@mcmathmac.nlm.nih.gov> mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck McMath) writes:
>It seems to me that rookie pitchers - even those with good K/BB ratios -
>have a difficult time adjusting to the majors.  Sure, there are exceptions
>(Guzman and Mussina are two that come immediately to mind), but it appears
>there is an adjustment process (ok, so I just thought of Fleming also). 
>I'd stick with Finley, 'cuz he has a proven track record.  True, he has
>sucked this year, but assuming he is finally over the toe injury, you'd
>have to believe he will be regaining his form (unless he's totally thrown
>off his motion, in which case bombs away!).
>
Actually, it seems to me that rookie pitchers often fare well in their
first go-round in the bigs, until the hitters have seen their stuff.  A
couple examples of guys who started real strong and have since struggled 
would be Mike Gardiner of Boston in the AL and Anthony Young of the Mets in the
NL.  The same is often true of guys who switch leagues - here, I'm thinking of
the long line of Red Sox pitchers who went to the NL and had phenomenal first
years (Tudor, Ojeda, etc.).
>Witt seems just too prone to give up the W (tho he did great last night) to
>keep active.  If he's their 5th starter, who are the first 4 (Ryan, Brown,
>Guzman, and ?).  He's either 4th or 5th, I don't think it will have an
>enormous difference on the number of starts he'll get at this point in the
>season. 
>
The other guy is Todd (I think) Burns.  He gave up just one ER on 4 H & 2 BB
Sunday night in a no-decision.  Does anyone know more about this guy?  I am
always looking for pitching help (who isn't?).  Incidentally, the other
starter in that Sunday night game was Arthur Rhodes for Baltimore, a recent
call up who has had a couple successive good starts, although I think he was
in the majors last year and went 0-8 or something.  Nonetheless, he has already
been snatched up (and subsequently traded!) in my league.

Charlie
>Of course, I have Finley in one league (I traded Sanderson for him) and
>Witt in another!
>
>chuck
>
>|- chuck mcmath - mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov - MSD, Inc. ------------|
>|- National Library of Medicine - National Institutes of Health --|
>|- Bethesda, MD 20894 ---- Not a Vice-Presidential candidate -----|
>|- "Hey batter, hey batter, hey batter, swing" - Anon. -----------|


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From: ecaxron@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Graham)
Subject: Re: Where Do I Start??? (A FLAME for IDIOTS)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 23 Jul 1992 09:01 EDT  

In article <1992Jul22.162642.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, 
     11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay) writes...

>In article <1992Jul21.210038.24169@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, 
>     jas4034@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>> In article <Bro616.9M8@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, 
>>     kjohnson@demorgan.waterloo.edu (Kevin Johnson) writes:

>>>	Hi, being relatively new to this group I was wondering if all
>>>	you 'pros' out there could give me a hand.  I'm interested in
>>>	starting up my own baseball fantasy league for next season but
>>>	have no idea where to start.  

>>     Same here!  I tried last year here, but failed.  And help would be 
>> greatly appreciated!  Please e-mail with any information.

>Give it up guys. Most of the people who read posts here regularly are 
>at most a shutmouthed, selfless idiot. They refuse to help one another
>and help expand consciousness of this fascinating hobby. When I say most,
>I mean most of the people who are rotisserie managers or those who
>know how to set one up. This is a FLAME and is not intended for any other
>purpose besides this.

I can only assume that when the FAQ file is completed for this newsgroup
(it is in the works now), this sort of uncultured comment will disappear.

Let me say in the meantime that Sean Sullivan has a great deal of 
accumulated and unsorted information that will go into the FAQ, and
that Joel Tscherne has volunteered to assist with the effort.  A call
for contributions to the FAQ effort was issued to the Mailing List, and
I will repeat it here: if you have some aspect of fantasy/Rotisserie 
baseball in which you have developed expertise, and would like to 
summarize this expertise for the FAQ, let me hear from you via e-mail.

I have decided that I will contribute sections on league start-up, 
drafting (as opposed to auctions), and trades, but even those I will not
do all by myself - there are a lot of different schools of thought out
there and they deserve mention.  I can see myself using the Mailing List
as a medium for editing what gets written.

RG
Cameroon Indomitable Lions, Building 86 League
From: csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher M. Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Burks for Puckett: y/n
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:53:17 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Jul30.053943.12637@midway.uchicago.edu> nss3@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.211943.256@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:
>>I'm having some trouble making a desicion, another team offered me
>>Kirby Puckett for Ellis Burks, should I do it?
>
>I was going to ask what kind of league you're in, but since the
>posting I read before this one said that Burks may be out for the
>season, I'll simply tell you to make this trade in a flash.
>
Actually, on the Red Sox radio broadcast last night they said that the Sox team
doctor announced Burks would be out AT LEAST 3 more weeks.  So if its the rest
of the season, they're trying to make us believe otherwise.

>Not that it really matters what league you're playing in, since
>Puckett beats out Burks in just about any statistical category you
>care to name (including GDIP :-).
>
C Squared
From: savoy@hg.uleth.ca (Jim Savoy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: getting started
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:47:28 GMT
Reply-To: savoy@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge


> B37211@anlcv1.ctd.anl.gov (Jeff Eastman) writes:

>Two questions:

>1) Are there any leagues organized to play over the network? (I know only
>one other person that is interested in playing).

A guy named Eric Sutherland (in Toronto) started up a play-by-mail roto league
which he advertised in rec.sport.baseball. I joined up along with 11 other
players (some, maybe all, being netters). We drafted teams and we're humming 
along for a few weeks when suddenly, everything stopped. I haven't recieved
any mail since May. Bummer. I was doing pretty good too.

>2) Where would I find the magazine "Fantasy Baseball"?

Seven-Eleven? That's where I get it, anyway.

 _____________________________________________________________________________
     Jim Savoy          University Of Lethbridge         savoy@hg.uleth.ca

Commander: Have we bombed anywhere? Have we shown 'em we got teeth?
Agent:     Oh yes, sir. We've bombed a lot of places flat, sir.
Commander: Good. Good. We don't want anyone to think we're chicken.
Agent:     Oh no! They don't think that, sir. Everyone's really scared of us.
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From: niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma)
Subject: Free Agent List?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:33:43 GMT

  Hi! I have a Scoresheet baseball team and am trying to trade Tim Salmon and
Eric Wedge for this guys first round draft pick for next year (every year you
can protect 11 players, 4 of which can be pitchers). Obviously this first round
pick doesn't seem good what with ten teams (10 x 11 = 110) so I could only get
the 111th best player in the A.L. which isn't really that great. BUT!!
  All of the free agents and traded players from the N.L. are available in
our draft for next year. That is, players such as Barry Bonds and Greg Maddux,
if they move to the Jr. circuit will be available to myself.
  So the question is what all-star type players are free agents in the National
League at the end of this year? Please E-mail, I already know a few: Bonds,
Maddux, Ozzie Smith, HoJo, Santiago. Thanks!

					Gord Niguma
					niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca
From: jm6t+@andrew.cmu.edu (John McDowell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: BLM Baseball
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:58:18 GMT
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Last night I was rooting through some old stuff that I cleaned out of my
parents attic and I came upon a newsletter and an ad for BLM (Big League
Manager) Baseball. I used to play this game in the mid 60's. The game
itself which I once had must of gotten thrown away or something stupid
like that. I used to enjoy it very much and I thought it was much better
than APBA. I think the makers of BLM were in Duluth and were called
Negamco. They also made a basketball game (which survived and I still
have), football and hockey. Anyway I would be interested in hearing from
anyone who used to play this game or knows anything about it.
********************************************************
*  JOHN MCDOWELL        *  Administrative Systems      *
*  jm6t@andrew.cmu.edu  *  Carnegie Mellon University  *
*  (412) 268-3313       *  UCC 150                     *
********************************************************
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From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Subject: Horrors Arise on EWBII
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:05:23 GMT

Ok, guys. I hope you can come to the rescue. I have a TANDY 1000SX
computer system. Not the new one, but the older one. I have only a 640k
memory, 2 360k drives, and a simple color monitor.

Now, the problem is as follows. How the heck can I actually get my 
commissioner's disk to READ the player's disk and use the stats from
there, not off its own disk where there is nothing. See, when I tell
the computer I want to begin a draf, it starts to read off of it
right away. Why not the player's disk? Can't it ask for the drive
from where it has to read the league

please answer as soon as possible because without this game going, I
feel a bit empty. Thanks!


-- 
Daniel Mcvay	11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu	11dmcvay@gallux.gallaudet.edu
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: roth@ravel.udel.edu (Charles M Roth)
Subject: Re: farr & henneman
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:06:05 GMT

In article <0095DF47.64405EE0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>does anybody out there know the status of Steve Farr and/or Mike Henneman?
>
>
Farr came off the DL sometime last week and l think (maybe) got a win sometime
this week.  Henneman is back after missing some time (no DL though) with a sore
arm, but I wonder whether the Tigers will continue to go with Knudsen, who had
a few saves while Henneman was ailing.
Henneman is on my team, so I'm trying to follow this one myself.
Hope this helps,
Charlie
 ----------------------------------------------------
| Charlie Roth          roth@brahms.udel.edu         |
| graduate student, runner, fantasy baseball manager |
| (not necessarily in that order)                    |
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From: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: Re: Danny Tartabull??
Reply-To: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:01:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.155828.15777@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
>
>The subject says it all.  He hasn't been playing.  Does anyone know
>what's going on?
>
>-- 
>===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============


Tartabull is currently out (he missed 5 out of the last 6 games) with
lower back pains.  Talk is that he will be put on the DL witht he
Yanks bringing up Bernie.



-Mike
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From: gdatt@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Ganesh Datt)
Subject: Re: guzman
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:28:58 GMT

In article <0095E3D9.EBDFAA40@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
> Does anybody how seriously injured Juan Guzman of the Jays is? I need my ace.
> Thanks for info.

Guzman exerienced some stiffness in his back near his throwing arm on Thursday in the third inning against the A's.  He says he felt it in the late innings in his two previous starts but did not bother him signinficantly until Thursday - it is believed the cold weather in Oakland had something to do with it.  He pitched on Monday on the side and it was determined that he would miss his start Thursday but should enter the rotation again on Monday August 3.  The injury is not believed to be serious.

Ganesh.
From: bill@frog.CRDS.COM (snow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Ellis Burks
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:00:55 GMT
Organization: Charles River Data Systems

In article <1992Jul27.210625.7339@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> sfh@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven F. Hubbard) writes:
>   Any news on when Burks might be back with the Sox?

My understanding is that he is out for the season.

-- 

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From: brady@brahms.udel.edu (Joseph Brady)
Subject: Re: Brewers...
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:51:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.183942.714@uwm.edu> zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove) writes:
>Cal Eldred is now the 5th starter for the Brewers.
>
>Plesac blew another game last night, adding fuel to the rumor that
>he's on the way out.
>
>Nilsson is on the Disabled List
>
>Spiers maybe activated, good luck, Listach is doing great.
>Listach  (R)
>
>Any other questions?
>Ken

Yes, actually. What is the story on Greg Vaughn?
I have had him on my rotisserie team for two or three years
now, and I expected him to really break out this year.

How do you think he will do the rest of this year, and what
are his long term prospects?

Thanks for the help.

Joe 

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From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (Dave Bonar)
Subject: Re: (LONG) My adventures at the Chi. Strat Tourn.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: News and Views from LSU
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:03:36 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-14156]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu

In article <1992Jul28.063208.12961@midway.uchicago.edu>, nss3@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Noel Steere) writes...
>In article <1992Jul24.153741.4870@cs.tulane.edu> eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Jul24.080306.1395@midway.uchicago.edu>, nss3@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Noel Steere) writes...

>>>5. Julio Franco (since he's a 4 at 2b, this is way too early)
>>
>>	I'm not so sure about that.  His card should be very nice and
>>	a four is livable (even at 2b) if the rest of the defense is solid.
> 
>The card's very nice, but the 4 will kill you.  Strat issued a new
>rule this year that, if the runner is being held at 1st, the first
>baseman and either the ss (if the batter is LH) or 2b (if the batter
>is RH) are responsible for holding him on.  The fielders who are
>holding the batter on incur a double penalty of having their range
>reduced by 1 and the # symbols on the X chart counting as a single**.
>This would make Franco a 5, with the # symbols giving the batter a
>1-10 chance of getting a hit.  Also, 1's turn lots of double plays,
>while 4's turn them once in a blue moon.

	Sounds Good!

	Earlier modifications had basically stripped any teeth from the
hold rules.  Using the 90 cards, our league (now defunct, alas) found that
everyone was being held on with almost no thought on the defenses part.
Decreasing the range makes it a nice choice again.

	With that said I fully agree, Franco shouldn't be this high of a 
pick.  I can live with a 4e(low) but not if he is going to become a five
whenever I hold someone on.

Dave
__________
Dave Bonar
eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
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