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From: Herman.Woltring@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Herman Woltring)
Subject: Re: What are the symptoms of Epstein-Barr virus?
Summary: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Keywords: Epstein-Barr, CFS, ME, CFIDS, Yuppy Flu
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:28:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.190408.234@unislc.uucp> chris@unislc.uucp
(Chris DelPrete) writes:
>Just what the headline says.  What are the symptoms of Epstein-Barr?
>Are there any books I can read? 
>-- 
>                          _   /|
>Chris DelPrete Delaney    \'o.O'
>chris@unislc              =(___)=
>                             U

Epstein-Barr is similar or identical (opinions vary) to CFS/ME/CFIDS; see
my previous posting on the topic.  Also the Handicap FTP site (see posting
27401) has a cfs subdirectory.

Herman J. Woltring <woltring@nici.kun.nl / woltring@hnykun53.bitnet>
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From: jeffs@nmdoc1.sr.hp.com (Jeff Silva)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:30:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Smartdrugs
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: sci.med

/ nmdoc1:sci.med / Leon.Ubags@f211.n500.z2.fidonet.org (Leon Ubags) /  7:03 am  Aug 12, 1992 /
Is there anyone who can tell me more about socalled smartdrugs or has 
experience in using them e.g. Hydrazine,Phenylanaline and so on ?



 

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From: singer@uwovax.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Hyperplastic Polyps & Bowel Journey
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:04:10 GMT
Organization: University of Western Ont, London

So WHAT IS a hyperplastic polyp? Recently, I had the interesting experience of
entering my own bowel (visually!) as the GI specialist probed via the new
electronics that projects a fantastic journey through pink caverns on the TV
screen for the patient to watch. He was a great communicator during this trip,
letting me know each time he saw something odd or failed to slip the loop
around it. But afterward, he was an incommunicado medical machine. In his
report to my GP he indicates the presence of a hyperplastic polyp--something
which does not appear in medical dictionaries. So what is it, and is it a
a precursor to something else? By the way, for those of you who have been told
you ought to have a sigmoidoscopic exam with the long flexible instrument, and
who may have been avoiding it, don't: it is not painful at all, not even when
something is snipped off. No sensation at all, and interesting to watch on the
screen, especially with a good tour conductor.--
From: DEHP@calvin.edu (Phil de Haan)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: metal bars; ankles, knees and hips
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:26:08 GMT
Organization: Calvin College


When I was a toddler (just after I learned how to walk) I was fitted with 
those shoes that have the metal bar in the middle in order to straighten my 
feet.  I don't know exactly how long I wore this contraption but evidently 
it was long enough to do the job, because my feet point ramrod straight now 
when I walk.

My problem is my ankles, knees and hips snap, crackle and pop like a bowl of 
breakfast cereal (you know the one).  My question is:  would wearing the old 
metal bar contraption all those years ago be causing problems now?  I'm 
only 30 and find it a little disconcerting that my ankles, knees and hips 
hurt almost daily.  I must add, however, that most of this pain and creaking 
is taking place on the right side of my body, so maybe there's something 
else I'm missing.  Any thoughts?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
       Phil de Haan (DoD #0578) -- Calvin College, Home of the 1992
                   NCAA III men's basketball champions

   There is nothing more galling to angry people than the coolness
of those on whom they wish to vent their spleen . . . Alexander Dumas
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: ardyk@tc.fluke.COM (Ardy Kong)
Subject: TLR (Total Lymphatic Radiation)
Keywords: TLR, radiation
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:41:35 GMT

What is the status of TLR as a viable treatment 
for Lupus Nephritis?
Where is it being done beside Standford Medical Center?

Ardy Kong
ardyk@tc.fluke.com
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.kids
From: floom@cco.caltech.edu (Laura E. Floom)
Subject: Re: Hepatitis vaccine
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:00:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.054257.12198@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.222808.13806@umiami.ir.miami.edu> ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
>>Oh for heaven's sake, in the interest of being politically correct, Steve, you
>>are being ridiculous!  
>>Please don't jump on someone who frankly is stating a truth, though it may not
>>be a PC palatable one!
>
>You can take your smarmy tossing of the phrase "politically correct"
>and "PC" and shove it, dear.  Now listen up.  The word "lifestyle"
>is a political codeword of the far right, and is going to be misinter-
>preted as that, even if it's not used as such.  Talking about an infant's
>"CLEAN lifestyle" is just barely short of ludicrous.  If you or Nannette
>would like to be understood, let me suggest a rephrasing along these lines:

Perhaps CLEAN Lifestyle as a phrase just doesnt push the same buttons in 
some people as it does it Steve. I suggest if he has any objection the the
phrase, or any others he should consider pointing it out in a more tactful
way. Although I can see his point, I find his attack on Nanette and Ann
offensive, and not at all suitable.

Laura Floom

>
>	He has never had a child who was raised in conditions with
>	adequate sanitation and hygiene come down with hepatitis...
>
>There.  Now we're all happy.
>
>
>-- 
>Steve Dyer
>dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: R: Hepatitis Vaccine: antibody/antigen testing
From: dfield@zeus.calpoly.edu (Daniel R. Field)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:43:59 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <16077@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
> The only thing that is going to
>get rid of HBV is vaccinate the whole population.
>
> -km

It is my understanding that giving a test for prior exposure to the
hepatitis virus is standard practice prior to vaccination.  One reason
I have heard for this is that someone previously exposed is considered
immune, rendering a vaccination superfluous.

Is there also a danger to someone already immune if he or she gets the 
vaccination, for example, of anaphylaxis?

Also, are the tests normally done able distiguish between different 
concentrations of antibodies?  Is this even necessary?  What I'm getting
at is whether or not prior exposure to the hepatitis B virus automatically
provides a person with adequate protection against the virus in the future,
and if not, whether the testing done before vaccinating gauges an individuals
level of immunity or just a possitive-negative status.

Thanks.

                                              -Dan Field
                                               dfield@nike.calpoly.edu
From: coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Anaphylactic shock - a vaccine ??
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:59:36 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

I don't know about a vaccine, but I believe that adrenaline is a very
effective treatment.

-- 
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We divide ourselves into groups, so that we will always have somebody to hate.
From: rrb@corona.CSS.GOV (Robert Blandford)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: National Entitlement Health Plan
Summary: Entitlements less vulnerable to fraud than other approaches.
Keywords: entitlement, national health, medicare, medicaid
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:25:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.201618.1589@kbsw1>, chris@kbsw1 (Chris Kostanick 806 1044) writes:
> Way to defraud this system: A corrupt health care provider charges
> large sums for non-existant procedures, then kicks much of the
> money back to the patient. This would allow short sighted people
> (like alcoholics and addicts) to "cash out" their account quickly.
> After the account is drained down then they are again wards of
> the state. Fraud is hard to prevent. "Even power has limits but
> ingenuity is endless" - Jelerak
> 
> Chris Kostanick
> "National health care is going to cost a _lot_ of money"

This type of fraud is currently possible under medicare and would
be possible under any form of insurance, including your own
company insurance.  And this type of fraud is rampant right now.

It would be *less* rampant under the entitlement plan because the
money would come out of the entitlement of the patient-conspirator.
Right now it does not come out of anyone's pocket except the
taxpayer and so everyone feels free to defraud.

The only way in which fraud could be made to be less  than under
the entitlement plan is to have no insurance of any kind.

If people were so short-sighted as to cash out their entitlement
then they would be wards of the state as you point out, but, and 
this is essential, the care that they would get would be well below
current medicaid standards, so that less money might be spent than
might be expected.



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From: Herman.Woltring@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Herman Woltring)
Subject: Re: What are the symptoms of Epstein-Barr virus?
Summary: Similarity of contents
Keywords: CFS, ME, CFIDS, E-B Virus
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:07:26 GMT

>In article <1992Aug19.174456.27158@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
>jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>>Herman.Woltring@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Herman Woltring) wrote:
>>> chris@unislc.uucp (Chris DelPrete) writes:
>>>> Just what the headline says.  What are the symptoms of Epstein-Barr?
>>> Epstein-Barr is similar or identical (opinions vary) to CFS/ME/CFIDS
>>
>This is like saying a bowl of white rice is identical to beri-beri.
>Epstein-Barr is a *virus*, CFS is a *disease*.  A minority opinion holds
>that Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV) may cause CFS; most people think that CFS has
>other or unknown causes, and there is absolutely *no* doubt that the
>commonest effects of EBV are *nothing* like CFS.
>
>--  Jack Campin    room G092, Computing Science Department, Glasgow University,

I stand corrected, but then, I read the term as a shorthand notation for the
disease: viruses hardly have symptoms -- see the various items in the CFS
directory at server@cu.nih.gov.  I appreciate the extensive comments in
Jack Campin's posting on the E-B virus (it seems that an erroneous posting
was needed to elicit a proper reply to the original query) !

Herman Woltring <woltring@nici.kun.nl>
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: shahn@hstbme.mit.edu (Samuel Hahn)
Subject: Re: Hepatitis vaccine
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:00:39 EDT
Organization: Harvard-MIT/HST
Followup-To: sci.med,misc.kids

In article <22830@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>, smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com
(Sandra Mergen) wrote:
> 
> 
> mbb@soac.bellcore.com writes:
> >Does anyone know anything about a vaccine for hepatitis C?
> >My doctor said it is new and my 1 yr old should get it.
> >The baby books I have do not mention this vaccine.
> 
>   Brian writes:
>   >Are you sure you are not talking about the Hemophilus   
>   >Influenza Vaccine?  I don't think an HCV vaccine is 
>   >even on the horizon.
> 
> Parents Magazine wrote an article about the new hepatitis
> vaccine that is available.  I called my pediatrician and she
> said that the vaccine is available now.  Her practice is now
> giving it to newborns on their 2 week checkup.  There is a
> total of 3 vaccines for this.

The vaccine is for HEPATITIS B - a much more common (and easily
transmissible)
virus than Hepatitis C.
From: John.Willis@p123.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Willis)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Mercury in dental fillings?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:52:00 -0500

Recently, jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) stated:

 > When one quack finds another to agree with him, that's
 > a "growing
 > number of professionals."

 > Here's a simple way to answer the question.  If a
 > filling that stays
 > in the mouth for one or five or twenty years is the
 > same mass as
 > when it went in (never heard anyone dispute this
 > part), where does
 > all that evil assault baby-killing mercury come from?

Just how would you measure the mass of a filling while it is in place?

 > If someone actually
 > suggests fillings lose
 > mass, ask 'em how they suppose the filling can remain
 > tight if it is
 > losing mass and thus shrinking.

As I recall, it is when the filling has been subjected to stresses like
temperature cycling and chewing over the years that it begins to lose its
adherance & break up.  It is during this time the electrical activity and
leaching appear to occur at increased levels.

As to question ppb concentrations, I guess it depends on how the Hg is really
distributed, e.g., does it occur in the neurological system in amounts
sufficient to be disruptive?  If there is electrical activity, what is its
effect?  <The electro-acupuncturists cringe>


BTW the many molar, and other, composite resin fillings I have, have all lasted
over 7 years with no problems.
From: lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lawrence Curcio)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Atkins Diet
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:31:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QeYKkWe00YV7M40VsM
Organization: Doctoral student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

There is a famous New Testament story of Jesus and the epileptic. A
father tells Jesus of how a devil will take his son and throw him into
the fire or the ocean. At that moment, the son is afflicted and Jesus
calms him. The apostles are in awe, but Jesus tells them that the son is
not fully cured that the devil may be cast out only by constant prayer
and FASTING (in the King James version -Matthew). Fasting, as it
happens, is an ancient method of treating epilepsy. It induces ketosis.

Oddly, most recent translations omit the part about fasting.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: scholar@meena.cc.uregina.ca (SCHOLAR)
Subject: Re: Journal article on CFS needed
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:22:00 GMT

In article <9313.2A848EED@stjhmc.fidonet.org>, Daniel.Prince@p0.f129.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Daniel Prince) writes...

>I have just been to my new MD for the second time and he has
>already decided that my illness MUST be mental because all the


I had a situation similar to yours, I rejected a diagnosis of endogenous
depression (which is probably what your doctor thinks you have) because the
onset of my illness seemed to be physical, because I have a few symptoms not
generally associated with depression and because I thought that by definition
mental illnesses have emotional causes (which didn't apply in my case).  But
after tearing through the libraries I've discovered:

     Mediclish isn't English, so if a doctor tells you that you have a
     'depression', that doesn't necessarily mean you feel depressed.

     That the common 'mental' illness are not caused by anything mental or
     emotional, but rather by disease processes or metabolic defects that
     effect the brain.

     It is clinically accepted (although it hasn't been studied nearly as
     much as it should) that depression can be a sequel to viral infection
     and that cases of depression sometimes come in waves following influenza
     epidemics.

I'm not trying to discourage you from having more tests to discover the cause
of your problems, but I don't think you should reject out of hand the
possibility that what you have is treatable as a depression.  Neither the
other 'depressive' patients nor their doctors know what hit them (caused
their problems), but that doesn't stop the drugs from helping them.  In any
case, whether you are trying a couple rounds of antidepressants to see if any
of them will help (oh yes, unfortunately you may have to try four or more
kinds of drugs before you find one that works for you) or if you are looking
for some kind of stimulant to keep you awake and functioning, only a
psychiatrist is likely to be familiar enough with the drugs that could help
you to give you a proper treatment, so I don't think you should resist going
to one. (How was that for a long sentence? ;)  So ask around for a
psychiatrist who treats with drugs (ask your doctor for instance), because
there are still a few who do only talk-therapies which would likely be
useless in your case IMHO.

               Joshua Scholar (scholar@meena.cc.uregina.ca)
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Diabetic coma
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:43:08 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Aug12.000812.5891@javelin.sim.es.com> bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>Perhaps you could build yourself a little "include" file on your
>computer that would contain all these terms & their relationship, then
>include it with your diabetes posts.  That wouldn't take much more
>energy than unnecessarily flaming someone disagreeing with your use of
>"juvenile" & "adult", terms with which I am completely unfamiliar.  I
>do know something about the distinction between Type I & Type II
>diabetes, however.
>
>Stop kneejerking & communicate more carefully.

Ken is one of the few people on this group who has any
real knowledge of medicine, unlike you and others of your
ilk that can do no better than sit and bitch about the
free information you are getting.  Put it where the sun
don't shine.

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From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Prolonged use of Ibuprofen
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:54:02 GMT
	<1992Aug15.205209.9482@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
	<1992Aug16.043911.29803@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> <Bt3EJp.nH@solbourne.com>
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: stevem@solbourne.com's message of 16 Aug 92 20:07:01 GMT

>>>>> On 16 Aug 92 20:07:01 GMT, stevem@solbourne.com (Stephen Matson) said:

Stephen>  I have been diagnosed as having early lupus, SLE type,
Stephen> (something I don't believe BTW) and was warned against using
Stephen> Ibuprofen. Seems in lupus patients Ibuprofen can cause
Stephen> meningitis with prolonged use. So even if one does not have
Stephen> lupus I'd stay away from it, you never know what they'll find
				      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Stephen> out in a few years. Aspirin is still the best all around
	 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  *******
Stephen> pain/inflammation relief I have found without a prescription.

The same on aspirin - "you never know what they'll find out in a few
years." :-)



Stephen>  Steve Matson.
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: stevem@solbourne.com (Stephen Matson)
Subject: Autoimmune diseases, Allergies
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:17:00 GMT



 I would like to find out if there have been any links between environment and
autoimmune diseases or if allergies or  hypersensitivity can cause connective
tissue rheumatism. 
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: gayle@disk.uucp (Gayle)
Subject: Please read!!!!!!!
Organization: Digital Information Systems of KY
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:35:56 GMT

 This may be posted to the wrong group, but considering the matter, I hope
no one will mind.
 I am breastfeeding my 10month old son. Who is also on an Apnea Monitor for
repeated incidents of Apnea/Bradycardia. As yet all he has required is 
stimulation, no CPR(thank God!). He also has problems w/Gastroesophogeal
Reflux. My problem is that my son will NOT take anything but a bottle,
I have not been able to express milk (got 1 ounce after trying for 3 hours),
and the court (recent divorce), has ordered that my ex have visitation 
with him. My husband has slept through all alarms when he was around, as a
matter of fact he fell asleep during a CPR class. When asked how to perform
CPR, he gave instructions for an adult. Evidently no one in court knew CPR,
thus didn't know he was wrong. It was a very violent marriage and my ex has
done everything he could to make life for my sons (also have a 6 year old)
and I miserable. He stated, in a notarized statement, that if I didn't ask 
for money, he would never bother either child, but until Josh is old enough
I can't work.
 Could AMYONE, if any experience with this or could offer ANY help or 
suggestions, also if there are any mothers with experience(baby not taking
bottle) could you PLEASE send notarized statement saying that. I will reimburse
what I can, hopefully he will FINALLY pay what he's supposed to. PLEASE<
can ANYONE help me. 
 The major probelm is that I lost a son last year, to SIDS, I could not 
possibly hand Josh to my ex and wonder if he'd come back alive. The picture
of Jordan in his casket haunts me now, someone please help me. If I could get
info together to show the judge, maybe he's realize that Josh should be 
with me until he is weaned, and off the monitor. I hope I'm making sense,
Thanks if anyone has read this far!

Gayle Vincent
174 Lynnwood Drive Apt 206
Mt Washington, Ky 40047
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From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: Leaving Trazadone
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:12:38 GMT

My best friend in the world is on trazadone for her depression.  She
knows she can't stay on it forever, but is terrified of leaving it.
Before she was on it she suffered from angoraphobia (sp?) and severe
depression that ruined her college career.

How long can people usually stay on trazadone?
How do people usually get off of it?  (therapy?)  Is there a standard
procedure or are there many techniques?

I've asked her to talk to her doctor about this, but there is a long
wait to get an appointment (which is another problem I'm trying to help
her solve).  I'd like to at least get an idea of what she's in for.

Thanks in advance for any info!

Tom
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