HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: baker@soopr1.seo.dec.com (Tom Baker)
Subject: Re: Hotlinks Upgrade
Reply-To: baker@soopr1.seo.dec.com (Tom Baker)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:20:28 GMT


In article <67163@cup.portal.com>, soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson)
writes:

|>
|>Clearly, what you are paying for with the HotLinks upgrade is the autotrace
|>program. (And .TIFF import for BME)
|>
|>The autotrace program was developed as part of Art Expression (RSN) but it
|>was decided to put into the BME program because it fit there well, and since
|>it was in BME, why not let customers buy it without having to buy Art
|>Expression? [BME with TRACE will be included in the Art Expression package].
|>
|>If you look at the price of Auto Trace programs on other platforms, the $35
|>price tag is more than reasonable.
|>
|>HotLinks editions has proved to be such a stable product that a separate fix
|>release wasn't justified. The only real bug in the whole HotLinks thing is
|>actually in PageStream (which is fixed in the 2.21 free patch).
|>

	I have PageStream 2.21 and HotLinks 1.0. I plan on buying Art Expression
	when it is released. Does this mean I should skip the HotLinks 1.1
	upgrade because BME with TRACE is in AE and BME with TRACE is the only
	improvement in HotLinks 1.1?

	Thanks,

	Tom
From: charlesd@ocean.ics.uci.edu (Charles Davis)
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Summary: I think it tastes great!/less filling!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Reply-To: charlesd@ics.uci.edu (Charles Michael Davis)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:11:35 GMT

I just switched to TM2.0 from ToolsDeamon, and I'm overjoyed!!!
I think that TM2.0 is the greatest thing since sliced time-shares!!!
It tastes great AND is less filling!!! :^)

This is the kind of software which makes me love my Amiga...


				Charles Michael Davis
				charlesd@ics.uci.edu

Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.applications:7402 comp.sys.amiga.misc:14470
From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: English Docs for KICKWom.lha 1000 Rom Hack?
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:06:04 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Are there English docs for the KICKWom.lha on physik?  In case you're
not familiar it's a 1000 rom hack.  I'd like to try it, but seeing how
my EE knowledge is as poor as my German...  Well if someone's
translated them could they mail me a copy or tell me where I may find
them?  arigato...
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Enlightenment Happens?
From: ajahn@digi.lonestar.org (Alfredo Jahn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Hotlinks Upgrade
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:39:51 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <67163@cup.portal.com> soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson) writes:
>>        I see that Soft-Logik have released an upgrade to their Hotlinks
>>package for $30. Great I bought the package a couple of months ago, and
>>they offer an upgrade for half the price I paid... seems kinda expensive to
>>me. I know that BME now has a trce feature, but can't they offer a free
>>upgrade akin to the Supra upgrade (i.e. free for bug fixes, but major
>>software upgrades cost a minimal fee).
>>
>>        How do Soft-Logik decide on upgrade fees/policy. Pagestream just
>>had a patch released for free, but BME owners have to pay through the
>>nose... care to comment Kevin?
>>
>>--
>>
>>|           ///    htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz  Bombora/Ross 780 sailor|
>>| Taste    ///       OR tweedie_h@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz        | RZ350, R65,|
>>|= Amiga  ///        OR tweedie@ivory.isor.vuw.ac.nz        | K75S rider.|
>>|    \\\ /// "Computer programmers were put on Earth to make accountants |
>>|     \XX//  look interesting!"   "Stretch yourself.........get morphed!"|
>>
>
>The general policy from Soft-Logik is that fix releases are free and significan
>t
>addition of new functions is chargeable.
>
>Clearly, what you are paying for with the HotLinks upgrade is the autotrace
>program. (And .TIFF import for BME)

I can't wait to see how "usable" this autotrace feature is... I have used others
(ProDraw?) and it sucked! It had so many control points on the autotraced image
that I just decided to re-draw it! I plan on getting this upgrade (I am pissed
that only one month after I shelled out the money for Hotlinks, I have to pay
more for a feature I don't plan to use...) (Thats unless SoftLogik's version of
an autotrace feature really works (ie, is usuable)).

>
>The autotrace program was developed as part of Art Expression (RSN) but it
>was decided to put into the BME program because it fit there well, and since
>it was in BME, why not let customers buy it without having to buy Art
>Expression? [BME with TRACE will be included in the Art Expression package].
>
>If you look at the price of Auto Trace programs on other platforms, the $35
>price tag is more than reasonable.
>
>HotLinks editions has proved to be such a stable product that a separate fix
>release wasn't justified. The only real bug in the whole HotLinks thing is
>actually in PageStream (which is fixed in the 2.21 free patch).

Oh well.....

>
>Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
>               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
>        SOFT-LOGIK BBS (PCP MOSLO) (314) 894-0057

-- 
Alfredo Jahn  INTERNET: ajahn@digi.lonestar.org  UUCP: uunet!digi!ajahn
DSC Communications, Corp.
1000 Coit Road, Plano TX 75075   (214) 519-3545
From: cmh@lysator.liu.se (Magnus Holmgren)
Subject: Re: Idea For ToolManager 3.0
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 12:41:31 GMT

sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna) writes:

>Stefan, here is an idea for Tool Manager 3.0:

>Include support for the Amiga's speech synthesizer.  I have always liked the
>way Term talks to me, and think that it would be useful to enter a
>speech string for each program.  Something like,
>	"Attempting to launch Directory Opus"

Simple. Make sure you have UPD 1.20, and make a Sound object that sends a
message to the PLAY port (belongs to UPD), and the message could be
something like "say 'Attempting to launch Directory Opus'", and attach
that object wereever you like.
--
 Magnus Holmgren | Email: cmh@lysator.liu.se, cmh@augs.se | FIDO: 2:204/404.6
Comp. Science & Engineering student, Linkoping Institute of Technology, Sweden
From: charlesd@ocean.ics.uci.edu (Charles Michael Davis)
Subject: Re: Idea For ToolManager 3.0
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Reply-To: charlesd@ics.uci.edu (Charles Davis)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Keywords: flicker, antiflicker
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:28:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.081835.10284@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>jaharkes@cs.vu.nl (Harkes JA) writes:
>[use of speak: handler removed]
>:
>: PPS Stefan, congrat's with your superb program. The only prob I have is that
>:     'There is so little room on a 640x256 WBscreen that a large APPwindow makes
>:     is very difficult to find, pick and drop icons into it. OK not impossible
>:     but difficult.'
>:
>I have found this to be a problem too.  Yes, I KNOW that WorkBench *must* be
>run in hires interlaced :), but I 1) dont have the $$ to purchase a i-laced
>monitor yet 2) dont like the way it flicker when I set it to hrs ilaced on
>my poor 1084s, and  3) have been using PAL mode ever since I saw that TM 1.5's
>config window was LARGER than 200 rows down, and therefore, I lost several
>icons that were off the screen.


Try using "antiflicker" by Nicolas Benezan. It works great, with the
right screen colors!!  Why buy a new monitor if you don't have to
(or cannot afford to! :^)


	<<rest of article deleted>>

>Michael Neylon   aka Masem the Great and Almighty Thermodynamics GOD!
>      //         | Senior, Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Toledo
>  \\ // Only the |   Summer Intern, NASA Lewis Research Center
>\  \X/   AMIGA!  |         mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu           /


				Charles Michael Davis
				charlesd@ics.uci.edu

				(No cute signature block!  :^)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: taa33@isuvax.iastate.edu (Devin E. Parsons)
Subject: Re: Final Copy II shipping date?
Reply-To: taa33@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:46:03 GMT

>In article <1992Oct5.022627.4064@jade.tufts.edu>, clin@jade.tufts.edu (Chuck (Satch) Lin) writes:
>If anyone knows for certain whether or not Final Copy II is shipping
>this week, please email me!
>thanks
>chuck
>clin@jade.tufts.edu


I called them today (monday) and they said that they started shipping 
TODAY.  They went on to say, however, that it would take about two weeks
to ship all of the orders.  

Since they are shipped Airborn Express the first ones should arrive on
Tuesday.  So some info. should be posted soon, if they are shipping TODAY!

*******************************************************************************
**     Devin E. Parsons                                    / /               **
**       Friley 4543                                   \  / /                **
**   Iowa State University -VOICE 515-294-3096        \ \/ /                 **
**   Ames, Iowa 50012-0001 -E-mail TAA33@ISUVAX.EDU    \/\/  Only Amiga!     **
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From: guineau@wjg.UUCP (W. John Guineau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Home Manager?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:46:16 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

I received a flyer from 'Amiga World ToolChest' which appears to sell disks
with various PD/shareware software on it. 

One such disk contains BBaseII, which is also on a recent Fish Disk. 

There is one program I'm interested in named 'Home Manager' (which is on
the ToolChest disk RK4) but would rather find it on the net and send a fee
to the author instead of Amiga World...

Has anyone seen this application? It's an address book/appointment scheduler/
notepad/ etc utility which has a very nice 2.0 look.

thanks for any pointers!


-- 

    W. John Guineau	    bear.stonemarche.org!wjg!guineau


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: hoehle@inf-wiss.ivp.uni-konstanz.de (Joerg-Cyril Hoehle)
Subject: Re: ToolManager 2.0 Likes/Dislikes
Organization: Information Science, Univ. of Konstanz
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:18:23 GMT

Stefan Boberg (boberg@lysator.liu.se) wrote:
..
:   This reminds me.. Does anybody know why foreigners insist on changing 
: `Stefan' to `Stephan'? I get letters for this "Stephan Boberg" guy all the 
: time.. Wonder who he is? :-)

St'ephane is the french way of writing this name, which makes me think
that it may be of greek origin (using the phi letter, which gives ph
in french, english and german. However in german, people tend to write
as they speak after a couple of years, ph->f, c->z, etc, and for
example civil became zivil during the last 100 years (don't know
exactly when though)).

..
: Stefan Boberg - AP & EE student at Linkoping Institute of Technology, Sweden
..
--
 	Joerg.
hoehle@inf-wiss.ivp.uni-konstanz.d
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect!!??
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:06:53 GMT

wbennett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William F Bennett) writes:

>     I have been using Word Perfect for quite some time on the Amiga, but
>I have always been disappointed with the speed and the poor lay out of the
>hot keys. I have stayed with it because of the compatability with the IBM's
>at work. I kept hoping that WordPerfect Corp would upgrade 4.2 but now I am
>tired of waiting.

WordImPerfect has decided to cancel any plans of bringing versions 5.x out
for the Amiga.  Heck, I still have 4.1.  They never sent me anything about
an upgrade to 4.2.  Is it really any different?

>     I have old versions of Excellence!, Prowrite. Do the newer versions
>have the capability of reading and writing WordPerfect files (both 5.1 and
>4.2). Is there any clear winner when it comes to pure text word-processing.

Scribble!

>     Thanx for your opinions. I know this has been discussed here before
>so if you want please email opinions.
>-- 
>*******************************************************************************
>Bill Bennett              Dept of Radiology           The Ohio State University

>*********************  wbennett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  ********************






-- 
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From: htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Hotlinks Upgrade
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:34:55 PST
Organization: The mad HATter's madhouse

	I see that Soft-Logik have released an upgrade to their Hotlinks
package for $30. Great I bought the package a couple of months ago, and
they offer an upgrade for half the price I paid... seems kinda expensive to
me. I know that BME now has a trce feature, but can't they offer a free
upgrade akin to the Supra upgrade (i.e. free for bug fixes, but major
software upgrades cost a minimal fee).

	How do Soft-Logik decide on upgrade fees/policy. Pagestream just
had a patch released for free, but BME owners have to pay through the
nose... care to comment Kevin?

-- 

|           ///    htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz  Bombora/Ross 780 sailor|
| Taste    ///       OR tweedie_h@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz        | RZ350, R65,|
|= Amiga  ///        OR tweedie@ivory.isor.vuw.ac.nz        | K75S rider.|
|    \\\ /// "Computer programmers were put on Earth to make accountants |
|     \XX//  look interesting!"   "Stretch yourself.........get morphed!"|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Subject: Re: PAL/NTSC
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:27:38 GMT

In article 8474@cs.mun.ca, robertr@odie.cs.mun.ca (Robert Randell) writes:
>Hi. Perhaps someone can help me here.
>
>I recently installed a fatter agnus (along with 2 megs fast memory) into
>my 500. One of the things I was looking forward to doing was running PAL
>programs. I can see the whole screen all right, but the speed of execution
>is noticeably slower. This is especially apparent for demos and games...
>slower music and object movement. I suspect that it has to do with the 
>different scan rates between PAL and NTSC, but I know very little about this.
>
>So, could someone offer me an explanation for the phenomenon, and, even better,
>a method of possibly overcoming the slow-down?>
>Thanks in advance.

most demos and video games are based on the video timing,which doesn't change, no
matter how fast a processor goes.  That's why amiga video games don't become unplayable
on a 68040...

Since the music is usually timed the same way, it also slows.

If the program you're runing needs PAL to see it, then you can be guaranteed that
it's running at the right speed, and it was running too fast before...

(ps.  PAL (european) is 50Hz (frames/sec), NTSC (americaln) is 60)

hope this helps...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Re: PageStream 2.21 release
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 19:29:17 GMT

In article <67162@cup.portal.com> soft-logik@cup.portal.com (Kevin W Davidson) writes:
>There are two versions of PageStream 2.2 out. One was sold to people who bought
>version 2.2 and the other was sent as an upgrade to PageStream 2.1 owners. The
>two versions are virtually identical, but not exactly. As a result, there are
>two patch files included in the PageStream 2.2 HL patch -- one for each
>version of 2.2.
>
>There is only one 2.2HL to 2.21 patch which will not work on 2.2. There are
>two 2.2 to 2.2 HL patches which are available in another archive call 
>pgs2ptch.lha. Apply the HL patches and then the 2.21 patches.
>
>Kevin Davidson, Asst. Moderator AmigaZone Vendor Support - PORTAL
>               <soft-logik@cup.portal.com>
>        SOFT-LOGIK BBS (PCP MOSLO) (314) 894-0057


Unfortunately, the 2.2 - 2.2HL patch is unable to open PageStream2.new and
fails. I received the upgrade to 2.2 in the mail and am unable to patch it
to 2.2HL. Is there another way out for me? I believe others are having the
same difficulties.

Thanks,

Herb


-- 
Herb Brown  Math Dept  The Univ at Albany  Albany, NY 12222  (518) 442-4640
Director,                                          hibrown@math.albany.edu  
Computer Assisted Instruction in Mathematics       hibrown@csc.albany.edu
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From: warda@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Printer Driver for Bj10ex
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:13:44 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

> 
> Does any one know where I can get a printer driver for the Cannon Bj10ex that
> works, in particular I would like to use it with Pen Pal V1.4
> 

There's a file on wuarchive.wustl.edu

systems/amiga/print/drivers/bj130e.LZH

that looks like it might be what you're looking for, perhaps.

Cheers,

   Bill Bennett                           JANET: warda@uk.ac.oxford.vax    
   CRC Growth Factors Research Group   Internet: warda%vax.oxford.ac.uk  
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.applications:7425 comp.sys.amiga.misc:14486
From: kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Harddisk cache software
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:25:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: kxs5829@ultb


	Does anyone know of any harddisk cache software?  I'm looking for
something that will buffer Read()/Write()/Seek() preferably.  It must work
at the packet level at least, not just patching the DOS library.

	- Kyle

-- 
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From: ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Any Text Editors that fit these qualifications?
Keywords: Left Amiga Key
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:12:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Sep23.103015.28306@ifi.unizh.ch> matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik) writes:
>In article <1992Sep22.100155.119307@marshall.wvnet.edu> rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
>>[..]
>>  text and using x,c,v for cut, copy & paste (with the
>>  _LEFT_ amiga key!)
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  NO!
>
>  The Left Amiga Key is reserved for SYSTEM USE ONLY.
>  Cut(x), Copy(c) and Paste(v) are mapped with the Right Amiga key
>  Get used to it. :-)
>
>>Any recommendations?
>  Nope with this constraints :-(
Actually that can be fixed with a commodity called MenuKey
by Mark Thomas.  It allows you to use the Left _A_ for
all cases except where it conflicts with the system keys.

Since it is a commodity, it only works on 2.xx and
I think the original poster wanted a system 1.3 compatible
WP. Oh well.  

I got MenuKey a long while ago -- don't remember where.

To the original poster, Final copy fits the  bill I believe.
It does use the XCV paradigm and with MenuKey uses left
_A_.  It's very easy to use and has great output.

Regards,
-- 
  \________/\      ______________________    __________________________________
Steven Cobb  \    /   scobb@ucsd.edu     \__/                Graduate School:
              \  /                                           It's not a job...
         UCSD  \/ ision Lab                                  It's an indenture.
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: PageStream DR2D import files - which is which??
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:23:35 GMT
Organization: University of Washington


In my quest to keep Pagestream updated I ran across a very confusing situation.

In the same directory at Physik are what appears to be 3 versions of the
"latest" DR2D import file.

Which is which? 
Does one need to patch an earlier version FIRST before the latest version?

If only one is needed, why weren't the older "latest releases" deleted? (This
is why I suspect I need all three but there is no instruction on how to
install them, nor in what order they should be used.)

The files are:

DR2D-2.1.8.lha
dr2d.lha 
DR2D.LHA

Note that there are 2 files with the same name, only a difference in u/lcase
and filesize.  If I download them, one will overwrite the other unless the
name is changed. (and then I'd have to make sure I knew WHICH one was the 
uppercase version and which was the lowercase...:<)

Clues???   

Thanks...

Crystal 
  ;>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Couple of ToolM 2.0 Q's
From: mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon)
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:31:21 EST

YATMQ (yet another Toolmaster question)....

1) How can I set a dock icon to open a drawer?   (ie I have a downloads
dir and I want ot be able to access it graphically....)

which leads us to...
2) How can I set a dock icon to use the unarchiving CSH script that came
with the distribution?  I do wanna see the output as the file is being
unarced....

and

3) What modifications must I make to the CSH script to have a archive
view program?

and in general
4) If I have a command that takes input after the file name, how
can I write a csh script to use it (ie a C compiler), and then use that
as an Exec Dock icon?

The documentation is a little vague on these points, but it is other wise
a great program (but it cant use MFR!! wah!)

TIA
-- 
Michael Neylon   aka Masem the Great and Almighty Thermodynamics GOD!
      //         | Senior, Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Toledo
  \\ // Only the |   Summer Intern, NASA Lewis Research Center
\  \X/   AMIGA!  |         mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu           /
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: siera@imada.ou.dk (Soeren Berg Hansen)
Subject: Re: LhA shipments?
Organization: Dept. of Math. & Computer Science, Odense University, Denmark
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:10:37 GMT

In article <Xw9mRB5w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz>  writes:

>I ordered my copy of LhA ages ago to (about 4 months ago).  I had not 
>heard from Stefan for ages until I finally got a letter from him via 
>Usenet.  He sent my Keyfile UUEncoded, and said that he had mailed my 
>disk with the registered software on it the follwoing day (a monday)
>
>It's two weeks now.  Mail from Sweden (I think) to New Zealand takes 6 
>working days.
>
>I have had to download the registered software off other BBS's at great 
>cost to myself.  I love the program, but I will be glad when the 
>localised support centers are set up.  
>(I don't mean to sound nasty, but it has taken AGES!!!)
>
>
>David Dustin             Dave@dogbox.acme.gen.nz            Rendezvous BBS
>30 Richmond Ave              Dave@acme.gen.nz        AMIGA & Jarre Support
>Palmerston North                                           +64 (6) 3566375
>NEW ZEALAND                  INFA - 3:771/425                  300 -> 2400

I got the keyfile now and it works great..... Thanx Steven.. No more bugging
you. (Though I guess it worked :)  )

Later, 
Siera