From: team13@ucs.usl.edu (Mejia Pablo)
Subject: Re: BBN II -- Murk-o-Vision World Update (Mau Mau)
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:45:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.050033.18743@dscomsf.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
]In article <NIGEL.92Jul23112145@rs733.GSFC.NASA.Gov>,
]nigel@rs733.GSFC.NASA.Gov writes:
]
]|>In article <1992Jul22.203836.5003@dscomsf.desy.de>
]|>hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phillip M. Hallam-Baker) writes:
]|>
]|>[much deleted]
]|>
]|>>The US could never learn the British Guerilla tactics because they
]|>just
]|>>don't have the mindset. They prefer egotistical little one man Rambo
]|>>style warriors. They have an army built arround the latest techno
]|>>wizardry rather than the British system of bloody good Sargeants.
]|>
]|>Excuse me but I think you're extrapolating a bit too much from
]|>Hollywood movies than reality. 
]
]Absolutely not, there is no way anyone would do that in soc.culture.british
]
]|> While the Brits have bloody great
]|>Sargents our NCOs aren't too shabby either...and we have techno
]|>wizardy wimply because a) we can afford it and b) force multiplication
]|>through technology is a good way of saving lives.
]
]I would suggest that you consider the bit where the NCOs go surffing
]during an battle in `appocalypse now'

  Ooohhhh, I just can't resist  :)

  That's right, Mr. Phill Hyphenated-Name, use a movie to show us how your
opinion of american armed forces is drawn from reality.

  Repeat after me....fic-tion, fic-tion, there really is a difference..

]
]OK yes, we will humour you, the US army is great, wonderful,
]magnificent. It hasn't just lost a war in Vietnam - in fact we will let
]you call it something else, er a tactical withdrawal, yes that sounds
]good. 
]

   Kinda like Argentina,huh?  Oh thats right, you won that one.  More
   KIA's than the other side, but you still won.
]
]|>>They got their asses kicked and a damn good thing to. Until they build a
]|>>second monument to the people they killed and appologise to the
]|>>Vietnamese people, the US will never regain its old position in the
]|>>world. Vietnam was the start of the collapse of the US empire, perhaps
]|>>they will be smart enough to realise this sooner than the British were.
]|>
]|>The US will probably never have the same influence it had post-WWII
]|>and pre-VN.  However, I've met quite a few of the Vietnamese people
]|>who fled the current regime and the only thing we have to apologise
]|>for is leaving them hanging.  A monument to the NVA and the butchers
]|>they served?  Not in a million years.
]
]The US murdered more Vietnamese in the war than Ho Chi Minhs govt did after.
]
]
]|>Good thing we got our asses kicked?  Maybe...we've learned a lot of
]|>lessons from that war and the Gulf conflict proved it.
]
]What like how to aim rockets? The gulf was just about the one place
]where all that techno wizardry would work. Nicely uniform background to
]spot the targets on, complete air superiority, nice dry conditions so
]the electronics don't go screwy.
]
]And above all the British airforce to take out the runways of the
]opposition despite the attempts to blast them out of the sky from the US
]forces instructed by those oh so good NCOs of yours.
]

   Yup.  And who had the highest rate of lost planes in the allies theatre
  of operations??  Well, I'll give you a hint.    They build Tornados and
  Harriers, the most unsurvivable plane designs in use today.

   Oh, yeah, one more thing.  Those Durandal runway busters y'all were
  dropping off your Tornados are FRENCH.  There, doesn't that make you
  feel all warm inside???
]
]Phill Hallam-Baker

  Come on, is this name for REAL??  Do your friends call you "Phill"??
  Just how do you pronounce the double l??

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