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From: deldeen@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Survey (Follow-up Posting)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:22:28 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Dear Reader,

IBM Pennant Systems is interested in how you use various text processing
tools.  We are interested in gathering documents with text and/or graphics
in the following formats:

- TeX and LaTeX .dvi files as well as source.
- nroff and (di)troff output as well as source.
- ASCII text files and the original source (e.g., WordPerfect).
- Postscript level 1 output and the original source.

Please note the following criteria:

- IBM Pennant Systems cannot accept any information or data that is
  confidential or sensitive to your company or any of your customers or
  partners.

- Any samples would be provided on a voluntary basis, without compensation
  from IBM.

Also, send information regarding the storage method used (e.g., cpio, tar,
zip or just straight copy).

Immediately following is a survey with questions relating to systems/printers,
document content, size, etc.  The data that is collected from the surveys will
greatly increase the effectiveness of our product's testing.

Please add any other comments you would like on the survey.  Thanks in advance
for any support you can give to us.

You may send all surveys and documents via e-mail to:

deldeen@vnet.ibm.com
or
You can reach me directly at (303)924-7080

Sincerely,

David Eldeen
Analysts International Corp.
(303)721-6200

----------------------------- Survey Questions ------------------------------

Print jobs

1.  What is the average size of your print jobs (in pages)?

2.  How many print jobs do you submit in an average week?

3.  What is the range of number of pages in your print job?
    From    to    pages.

4.  What is the average number of fonts used per print job?
    From    to    fonts.

5.  What is the range of the number of fonts used per print job?
    From    to    fonts.

6.  What is the composition of the average print job (text, graphics, tables)?

7.  What are the 2 most common formats that you print(ASCII, Postscript,
    nroff/troff, TeX/LaTeX)?

    1.
    2.

8.  What print options do you use the most for each of the formats (ASCII,
    PostScript, etc.)?

9.  What filters, if any, are you passing the output through?

10. How much do you use text (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

11. How much do you use graphics (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

12. How much do you use tables (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

13. How much do you use special symbols (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

14. What kind of header and trailer pages do you use (text, graphics, both)?

15. What are your usual default margins?

System Configuration

1. What kind of computer do you use?

2. What operating system do you use?

3. What printers do you use (Brand/Model/Type)?

Background Information

Name :
Address :
Job Title :


Thanks again for your help!!!
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: wszczepo@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Witold Szczeponik)
Subject: Re: detecting missing arguments in latex
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:12:11 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <6725@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (Gregory Lampshire) writes:
>
>
>I want to set up a macro where the presence of an argument will be  
>significant, that is
>
>\newcommand\fig[3]{
>	\if <argument #1 is null> do this etc.
>	\else etc.
>	\fi
>}
>
>
>\fig{}{}{this is a phrase}
>
>is different from
>
>\fig{2}{3}{this is a phrase}
>
>
>
>How do I test to see if an argument is null?  I tried
>
>
>\csname the #1 \endcsname but that naturally didn't work since the  
>argument is not a counter, register etc..
>
>

I ran into the same problem some days ago.  Here's a piece of the
code that tests whether the first argument is empty or not:

   {\setbox0=\hbox{\ignorespaces#1\unskip\relax}%
    \ifdim \wd0=0pt%
       % do whatever you want if the argument is empty
    \else%
       % do whatever you want if it isn't
    \fi%
   }%

I'm not a TeXpert, but it works fine for me.

>
>
>--
>Gregory Lampshire 
>Virginia Tech NeXT CC
>Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
>gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
>------------------------
>My opinions are my very own and do not reflect the opinions of any  
>employer


------

wszczepo@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
witold@eis.cs.tu-bs.de

------

C:  A middle-level programming language which combines the power
    of assembly language with the readability of assembly language.

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg)
Subject: Re: getting display math mode inside a LaTeX caption
Summary: \displaystyle
Keywords: caption math display \displaystyle
Organization: U of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 19:20:39 GMT

In article <6748@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu
(Gregory Lampshire) writes:
>I want to get display math mode inside a caption like:
> [ ... ]

You should be able to get the desired effect via

	\caption[Short Title for List of Tables/Figures]
		{
		This is the caption.  It contains a displayed equation\\
		$\displaystyle
		e^{x + iy} = e^x (\cos y + i \sin y)
		$\\
		which was originally derived by Euler.
		}
	\label{my-favorite-tab/fig}

You'll find a detailed discussion of \displaystyle in chapter 17 of
the \TeX{}book.

- Jonathan Thornburg
  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
  University of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Cameron Smith)
Subject: Re: Is Literate Programming just for the academics?
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:54:50 GMT
Keywords: WEB, Literate Programming, LITPROG

In article <1992Sep10.152641.1878@informatik.uni-bremen.de>
ms@lehre23.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Martin Schroeder) writes:
>I think Literate Programming is quite appealing, but as far as I know
> the only large literate programs are TeX and Metafont. 8 years after
> Knuth's article this isn't very much. So:
> - Is Literate Programming only for the academics?
> - If it is: Are there any experiences with LARGE programs?
> - If it is: Why?
> - If it is not: Are there any experiences with LARGE programs?
>Please answer via posting to this newsgroups (or via email, if you must).

Literate programming is NOT just for academics.  If you are interested
in learning more about literate programming or in practicing it yourself,
you should join the LITPROG e-mail mailing list.

The LITPROG mailing list is dedicated to discussions of literate
programming.  Topics include tools and techniques (e.g. "How can I
get CWEB to recognize function templates?"), experiences with
literate programming, bibliography of literate programming articles
and books (they are not all by DEK!), "philosophy" of literate
programming, and generally anything else that has to do with the
theory or practice of "computer programs as literature".  To join
the LITPROG mailing list, send a one-line message to the address
LISTSERV@SHSU.BITNET or LISTSERV@SHSU.EDU containing the line

  SUBSCRIBE LITPROG "Your Real Name In Quotes"

The LISTSERV program will extract your name from the SUBSCRIBE line
and your email address from the message header and add you to the
LITPROG list.  Your SUBSCRIBE request will be acknowledged with a
"Welcome to LITPROG" message that will tell you how to post, how to
get files from the archives, etc.  The list has nearly 200 members
who collectively use about a dozen literate programming tools (WEB,
FWEB, CWEB, c-no-web, NOWEB, Spidery WEB, LIPED, web-mode.el, ...)
and who are eager to promote literate programming!  A FAQ list and
bibliography for LITPROG is still in preparation (the list is only
about six weeks old!).

Hope this helps--
--Cameron Smith
  cameron@symcom.math.uiuc.edu

P.S. Perhaps information about LITPROG could be added to the c.t.t
     FAQ posting?  It is completely understandable that people who
     don't know about LITPROG should come to c.t.t to ask about
     literate programming, and I'm happy to promote LITPROG, but I've
     posted this same information about three times in the last two
     weeks and I'm reluctant to try the patience of the c.t.t readership
     with these repeated advertisements! :-)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: ewu@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Elsie Wu)
Subject: printing LaTeX files with NCR 6436 printers
Reply-To: ewu@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Elsie Wu)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:02:30 GMT


Hello, everyone.

I recently installed TeX (3.14t3), LaTeX (2.09), and dvips (3.11) on a 
NCR S486/MC33 running UNIX System V/386/486 Release 4.0 Version 2.0.  
I've been trying to print the 3-page "sample.tex" file distributed with 
the LaTeX source on NCR 6436 printers, but was never successful.  Since I 
have it compiled so that it prints the last page first, it would print all
of Page 3, but complain about "undefied command at Execution Stack 5"
when it was supposed to print the Page 2. 

I can get around this problem by dividing up the sample.tex document into 
several pages and print one page at a time.  But I really really like to
know what's causing it in the first place -- dvips, LaTeX, the printer, or 
the operating system.  I was able to print several 10 - 14 page documents 
with no problems.  

Has anyone experienced similar problems?  If so, how did you get around it?

Thanks.

                                                 -- Elsie Wu
==============================================================================
Elsie Wu                      Open Systems Development, NCR E&M San Diego, CA
Phone: (619)485-2350          NCR Voice Plus: 8440-2350 
FAX:   (619)485-3010          E-mail:  elsie.wu@cheers.sandiego.ncr.com
From: fordyce@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil (David F. Fordyce)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Xfig labelling in TeX
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:17:16 GMT
Organization: U.S. ARMY MATERIEL SYSTEMS ANALYSIS ACTIVITY (AMSAA), APG, MD.

On 8 Sep 92 01:50:05 GMT, Mr. Fulford 
(grf@lambda.ma.adfa.oz.au (Glenn Fulford)) wrote:


] I am interested in being able to use Xfig to
] produce diagrams but to label the diagrams using TeX.
] I.e. I wish to have labels which are formulae, eg. $x_1$,
] for instance. My problem is that I am a Plain-TeX user, not
] a LaTeX user.

] In LaTeX, I gather that all I need to do is
] then enter the text $x_1$ at the appropriate place in Xfig, edit the
] text and change the "special flag" from normal to special, then 
] export using the eepic option (i.e. eepic driver for transfig).

] What are the options for Plain-TeX? The Pictex option also
] only seems to produce code suitable for LaTeX. I don't understand
] exactly what the pstex option does. Can anyone help with this?


PiCTeX can run under both plain TeX and LaTeX. What i do is :

1. xfig <picture>. Put "x1" in the position where you want the text to appear.

2. fig2dev -L picture.fig picture.tex

3. edit picture.tex with a text editor and change "x1" to "$x_1$".
then tex or latex away. You don't have to fool around with specials.

] One possiblity would be to write a driver to produce code 
] to run under Tim Van Zandt's excellent PStricks macro package which runs under
] Plain-TeX (and LaTeX and AmS-TeX). Has anyone out there 
] written such a thing or planning to?

] I would appreciate any thoughts on these questions (except telling
] me to switch to LaTeX, since I do not wish to have to
] convert 3 books from plainTex to LaTeX).

ok, do the next one in LaTeX :-)

] Glenn.

Elastically yours,

Dave.
Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:10941 sci.chem:3408
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,sci.chem
Subject: Re: Request for comments: computerized chemical structure drawing
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:41:35 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1992Sep3.210539.21512@cc.ic.ac.uk>, rzepa@cc.ic.ac.uk (Henry Rzepa) writes:
> In article <Btur6u.7G5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Ben Wildasin,
> bwildasi@silver.ucs.indiana.edu writes:
>>I am developing a chemical structure-drawing macro package for plain TeX
> 
But there already is one, called CHEMSTRUCT, available from most archives.
> 
> Well, as an avid ChemDraw user, I would not go back to command line driven
> drawing ever again. I have avoided TeX for this very reason!!!

Fine, so long as you are happy with the penalty of making the document
non-portable.

///Peter
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: MetaFont for Beginners.  (Comments welcome.)
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:52:44 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <1992Sep6.070903.20725@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> ecsgrt@luxor.latrobe.edu.au (Geoffrey Tobin) writes:
>What good is proof mode, and why is it the default?  Proofs are blown
>up copies of characters used by font designers to judge whether they
>like the results of their work.  Naturally, proofs come first, and
>normal sized character production later - if you're a font designer.

Time to ask the question I've always been afraid to ask, I see:  :-)

How does one use a proof gf?

I consider myself a fount designer, but I only use the normal sized
production to judge the results of my work (mf; gftopk; tex testfont;
xdvi testfont), because, although I know how to make proofs, I never
knew what to do with them.

I'd be glad to RTBMFBook, but some BCoM (bloody colleague of mine)
appears to have withdrawn the only copy from the library.

-- 
 `If ye hiv ears oan yer heid - then use them tae lissen.' (The Glasgow Gospel)
Ivan A Derzhanski   (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk;  iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
From: wu@ece.arizona.edu (Hsien-Huang Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: palantino font
Keywords: palatino font
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:02:59 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineering

I want to use '\documentstyle[palatino]{article}' in my article, but there
seems no 'palatino' font available in latex. Does anyone get any idea to 
fix this problem?  Thanks in advance (e-mail plese).

----
wu@dialsun.ece.arizona.edu
From: ling@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Compiling WP2LaTeX error
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:41:56 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology


I tried to install wp2latex.  I got the software from suphys.physics.su.oz.au 
and ymir.claremont.edu.  However, when I came to use microsoft v6.0 to compile
the c code of p2clib.c, I got the following compilation errors.  My c experts 
here didn't know how to fix it.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

p2clib.c
p2c.h(328) : warning C4003: not enough actual parameters for macro 'FILEBUF'
p2c.h(328) : error C2139: type following 'char' is illegal

We want the c version, not the original pascal version, because of some added
features of WP5.1.


Thanks in advance.

How-Hie Ling.
Queensland University of Technology,
Brisbane,
Australia.
From: busch@cs.uni-sb.de (Pia Busch)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: grahps in LaTeX
Keywords: XY-pic
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:57:30 GMT
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Informatik

Thanks to everybody who has answered me to my question if there exist a 
tex-macro-package for printing grahps in LaTeX or TeX.

To sumerize the answers:

1) try XY-pic: to find on freja.diku.dk (129.142.96.1) /pub/TeX/misc/xypic*.tar.Z
2) try gnuplot
3) if you have X-windows or Openwindows , try xfig

I tried to login on freja.diku.dk to get the whole stuff, but the login failed,
-- no guest access --
Is there a restriction for foreign ftp-access? Or why I can't login?

bye
	Pia

=================================================================================
Max---Planck---Institut fuer Informatik
Pia Busch				E-mail: busch@mpi-sb.mpg.de
Im Stadtwald 					busch@cs.uni-sb.de
6600 Saarbruecken			Tel:	0681/302-5364
Deutschland					0681/302-4168
=================================================================================


Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:11222 aus.tex:149 comp.fonts:2707
From: dennis_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,aus.tex,comp.fonts
Subject: HP LaserJet TFM files
Date: 15 Sep 1992 10:37:48 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Reply-To: dennis_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

The User Manual for the HP LaserJet III (page 3-9) refers to the existence
of TFM files for the printer's built-in fonts.  It says these are 
available on `Autofont Support Diskettes'.

My local dealer has never heard of such things, and seems unable to find
out about them.

Has anyone followed this reference up?  The TFM files would be very useful
with TeX to provide an alternative to Computer Modern fonts (not that I've
got anything against CM).  Is there a part number for these diskettes that
I can quote to the dealer?

Any ideas will be much appreciated.

Chris Dennis                                   dennis_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Wellington, New Zealand
From: ky04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (KUN YU)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Hacking psfig
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:15:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Could anyone show me how to use 'clip=' option in psfig?
I read the brief manual which comes with psfig. It said something about 
bbllx, etc, but I can't figure out how to use.
-- 



                                                          _                  
ky04@lehigh.edu                                         / _ \
KYu, BioProcessing Institute                          /\ _|_ /\
111 Lehigh University                                    /|\
From: "George D. Greenwade" <bed_gdg@SHSU.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: DOC (24 August 1992 release) on FILESERV/Niord
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 15:19:37 CDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

                                   DOC
                                   ---
The DOC package includes the basic package needed for all distributions
from the Mainz packages (ARRAY, FTNRIGHT, MULTICOL, NFSS, and THEOREM). 
The original version of this program set was developed by Frank Mittelbach
<PZF5HZ@RUIPC1E.BITNET> to enable literate programming in LaTeX and
includes two critical complementary components -- docstrip and doc.

Denys Duchier rewrote docstrip to run either with TeX or of LaTeX, and to
allow full boolean expressions in conditional guards instead of just
comma-separated lists.  Johannes Braams re-united the two implementations,
documented and debugged the code.

Further commentary to doc was added at Royal Military College of Science by
B. Hamilton Kelly; English translation of parts of the original German
commentary provided by Andrew Mills; fairly substantial additions,
particularly from newdoc, and documentation of post-v1.5q features added at
v1.7a by Dave Love.

The files of this package reflect version 2.0r (17 August 1992) of
docstrip.doc and version 1.7k (24 August 1992) of doc.doc.

To retrieve the set of 8 files in 14 parts, include:
 SENDME DOC
in the body of a mail message to FILESERV@SHSU.BITNET (FILESERV@SHSU.edu). 
To retrieve a specific file, such as DOC.NEWDOC_DOC, include:
 SENDME DOC.NEWDOC_DOC
in your mail to FILESERV.  For anonymous ftp retrieval, the individual
files, as well as a ZIP archive, DOC-V1_7K.ZIP, are available in the
directory [FILESERV.DOC] on Niord.SHSU.edu (192.92.115.8).

Files in this package: (1 Block = 512 bytes)
File                          Blocks  Save file as:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DOC.DOCSTRIP_DOC_1OF3             75  DOCSTRIP.DOC 
DOC.DOCSTRIP_DOC_2OF3             75   (part 2)     
DOC.DOCSTRIP_DOC_3OF3             73   (part 3)     
DOC.DOCSTRIP_TEX                  30  DOCSTRIP.TEX 
DOC.DOC_BUG                        8  DOC.BUG      
DOC.DOC_DOC_1OF5                  76  DOC.DOC      
DOC.DOC_DOC_2OF5                  76   (part 2)     
DOC.DOC_DOC_3OF5                  76   (part 3)     
DOC.DOC_DOC_4OF5                  76   (part 4)     
DOC.DOC_DOC_5OF5                  75   (part 5)     
DOC.INSTALL_MZ0                   12  INSTALL.MZ0  
DOC.NEWDOC_DOC                     6  NEWDOC.DOC   
DOC.README_MZ                     12  README.MZ    
DOC.README_MZ0                     8  README.MZ0   

Approximate total blocks in full DOC package = 678
From: jgm@cs.brown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Format LaTeX as plain ASCII or with fancy graphics (LameTeX)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 17:19:26 -0400
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Apologies to those who have seen this post already.

Hi! This is Jonathan Monsarrat, from Brown University and MIT.

I have written a program called "LameTeX" that knows the basic LaTeX
commands (not all of them) and can format your LaTeX file in plain
ASCII format. You don't have to change anything in your .tex file.
Just use normal LaTeX commands.

Also, you can use it to format text inside a circle-shaped page instead
of a rectangular page. In fact, you can format your text inside any
arbitrary shape, like a triangle, or a picture of a big duck, or anything.

There are numerous ways to play with the text and put in fancy graphics
hacks. If you know the PostScript graphics language then you will be able
to use special hooks in LameTeX to make your own PostScript special effects.

LameTeX version 1.1 is available free by anonymous ftp from wilma.cs.brown.edu
(128.148.31.66) as "pub/lametex.tar.Z".

LameTeX comes with a complex demonstration of its capabilities.

This is all possible because LameTeX is not written in TeX macros. However,
this strength is also its weakness. It can only handle a small portion
of common LaTeX commands.

I am planning to extend LameTeX by using portions of the real TeX source
code. To do this it would be great if some TeX expert thought that this
was a worthwhile endeavour and volunteered to give me some advice on this.
Any takers?

Here are all the commands that LameTeX knows currently.

Thank you!

-Jon

Special LameTeX commands (hidden in the margins so LaTeX won't see
them) are called Stealth Commands. They are:
\stealth \postscript \includeps \pspage \ignore \pscmd \STEALTH

The normal LaTeX commands are: \# \% \& \Huge \LARGE \Large \ \_
\addtolength \backslash \begin \bf \bigskip \center \chapter \chapter*
\clearpage \description \document \documentstyle \em \end \enumerate
\flushleft \flushright \footnotesize \hspace \hspace* \huge \include
\it \item \itemize \label \large \ldots \medskip \newlength \newline
\normalsize \par \paragraph \paragraph* \part \part* \quotation \quote
\raggedleft \raggedright \ref \rm \sc \scriptsize \section \section*
\setlength \sf \sl \small \smallskip \subparagraph \subparagraph*
\subsection \subsection* \subsubsection \subsubsection* \tiny \today
\tt \verse \vspace \vspace* \{ \}
From: Phil Hirschhorn <PHIRSCHHORN@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: AMS-LaTeX with amsppt preloaded
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 18:20 EDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

I've been using AMS-LaTeX, which is lovely, except that it takes a while
to load up all the style files it uses before it ever looks at my TeXfile.

To speed things up, I tried to generate a format file that had the amsppt
documentstyle preloaded.  I added the line
   \documentstyle{amsppt}
to the end of lplain.tex, after the line
   \typeout{Input any local modifications here.}
but I get the following error message:

Input any local modifications here.
(amsppt.sty version 2.1a (22-JAN-1992): Loading utility definitions,
! Undefined control sequence.
l.66 \Invalid@
              \usualspace
?

Does anyone know what's wrong?  In any case, how do you preload amsppt
(along with all the things that amsppt.sty inputs)?

Thanks in advance,
Phil Hirschhorn
phirschhorn@lucy.wellesley.edu