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From: ncj@iti.org (Nancy Jennings)
Subject: Re: AMC: posts never got out
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:03:17 GMT

In article <9208261913.AA04775@hp-and.an.hp.com> susanm@HP-AND.AN.HP.COM (Susan Margulies) writes:
>Hi everybody!
>
>I tried posting from an HP newsfeeder, but when I looked for my
>posts on MIT's newsfeeder, they weren't there!!  That, along with
>the fact that no one has responded to ANY of them, makes me think
>they never got outside of my own newsfeeder.
>
>Therefore,  I am posting them now.  Here goes the first one!
>
>Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
>Subject: Re: AMC: Erica's husbands
>Date: 25 Aug 92 16:51:05 GMT
>References: <1992Aug19.195339.13208@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>Sender: netnews@hpwala.wal.hp.com
>Reply-To: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com
>
>I'm sure someone else already confirmed that Mark is Erica's
>brother.  What I want to know is why doesn't Mark come back for a
>visit for Mona's sake?   I really like the character, and I think 
>that if Nick can come back to support Mona, Mark definitely should 
>as well!  I can't remember if Erica and Mark were related through
>Mona or Eric, but I still think Mark should be there for his
>sister!
>
>Susan 

(Egads, I can't believe I'm going to admit to this heinous crime --
please don't hold it against me personally -- I was being held
hostage by my five- and seven-year-old, I swear!)

I caught part of "Bill and Ted -- the series" on Fox (?) the other
night, and the actor who played Mark was on -- he played a soap star
that was (I believe) a doctor who had been made to believe (by
another male doctor) that he needed to have a sex-change operation
to become a woman.  He was walking around in these sexy short
sequined evening dresses, pearls and earrings, and elbow-length
gloves.  It was an absolute riot!!!  The entire thing was a definate
blast at real daytime dramas, but what a character to play that
role!  I hope he was rolling around on the floor *playing* the
character as much as I was *watching* the character!

Anyway, enough said.  I promise I won't watch the show anymore!

-- Nancy
From: pml@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (patricia.m.lott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: 2000 Malibu
Keywords: Lisa Hartman Black
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:04:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

Someone said she is a terrific actress.  Sorry, but I
don't see it.  I did agree with whoever said the "fat
sister" is a good actress.  I found myself wanting to
slap her silly for being such a busybody.  Someone I
have lunch with every day also said she is a very good
actress because you get so irritated with her.

The show does belong in rec.arts.tv.soaps because it
is truly a soap.  It will be continued each week, and
I'm sure there will be weekly cliffhangers.  I wonder
if at some point they might bring in Clint Black.  
Wouldn't that be fun?  I've seen him in person, and he
is quite a hunk.  Somehow Lisa doesn't seem good enough
for him.
From: molly@uga.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:38:36 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1684F90A8.M21760@mwvm.mitre.org> M21760@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.202324.20717@rigel.econ.uga.edu>
>molly@uga.edu writes:
> 
>>
>>In article <1992Aug25.193044.26671@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> pml@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (patricia.m.lott) writes:
>>>
>>>As for Lauren, I hope she loses.  From what I see, as a casual
>>>observer, Scott is the better parent.  He is much more stable
>>>than Lauren.  He's not jumping into bed with any eligible
>>>female who happens to catch his eye.  It's true - Lauren isn't
>>>really jumping in bed with these men, but if I was the
>>>psychiatrist studying this case, I would be very reluctant to
>>>give the child to a mom who doesn't seem to have any scruples.
>>>And when was the last time Lauren was seen with little Scottie?
>>>Has she seen him since the night she stole him from Scott's
>>>apartment and took him home with her?
>>>
>>I sure hope Lauren will lose the battle.  I cannnoooooottttt stand her.
>>I will be really upset if she wins the custody battle.  She DOES NOT
>>DESERVE the baby at all.
>>
>>Molly
>>
> 
>I'm curious as to why some people feel that Lauren is not entitled
>to her own son?  I've asked this before and the reason I keep
>hearing is because she flirts with other men like Brad and Paul.
>This makes her an unfit mother?  If Scott were to begin dating, would
>he then become an unfit father?  Or does this rule apply to women
>only?
> 
>Lauren is a single woman.  Why can't she flirt?  If we are questioning
>her morals for flirting with Brad, why has no one condemned Brad when
>HE'S the married one?  Now that he and Tracy are destined for divorce,
>who gets Colleen?  It can't be Tracy because she's an immoral woman,
>too, because she's flirting with Steve!  She obviously does not
>deserve her child!  Now, what about Brad?  Does he deserve his child?
>NO!  He flirts with Lauren!  Oops!  I forgot - he's a man, so it's
>okay.
> 
>Linda
> 

It has nothing to do with man or woman.  I don't think Lauren is being fair
here.  
Scott has been very reasonable with her.  But 
she will not marry Scott but she is willing to use Paul in order to get
her son.  If so, why can't she marry Scott if she want her son so bad?

Molly
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Michael Knight: what's up? was: Tad in Santa Barbara?
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:46:24 GMT

In article <92242.173036FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>someone tell me if there has been any Tad (Michael E. Knight) sightings on
>other shows, commercials,or the big screen since departing AMC 12/91?  I
>emmy?  So, wouldn't some other soap have scooped him up, it just doesn't make
>any logical sense that his departure left him unemployed?  Would like to hear
>what others have heard, think or know, thanks.

I think that is a very interesting question. The only other things *I've*
seen him in are "Date With An Angel" (the movie) and a guest appearance on
(what was the name of it?) a short term night time soap-type show. He was only
on once. I realize that he is out in CA so that narrows his choices down
(most soaps are in NY, only (?) Santa Barbara isn't. What I find really
interesting/curious, is that I have seen tons of other AMC alumni showing
up elsewhere *and* everywhere - others a lot less talented then him.
I just thought of
one more thing he was on: Valerie Bertinelli had a tv series last (?) year
or was it 2 years ago, he played an ex-boyfriend on one show. But what
I don't understand is why some other directors/producers *whatever* have
not scooped him up for something fairly important like a nite time sitcom,
drama or series, or for a (at least) supporting role in a movie. It is
really curious to me. Do you all think maybe he turns offers down?

I'm clueless.

Clueless CAZ

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Friday - Icky and Gnarly
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:41:43 GMT
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



Well I was home on Friday and watched DOOL in real time (gasp!).  The
cutest thing was when John put the pencil behind Brady's ear - they were
adorable - as Vix would say "He's such a dad!"

Now for the gruesome.  (Apologies in advance to Rick and whomever else
is the Icky lover). I actually though Crystal WAY out-acted Staci (which
ain't tough to do!)  When Carly seems extremely professional and looks
like she is about to slug Isabella for being stupid - you KNOW the show
has gone downhill!  I almost laughed till I cried on Friday (now, I
DON'T find Cancer funny, nor do I find pain and death funny...but these
are not real people - they are characters).....when Izzy had her
sonogram.

(paraphrased and I KNOW the writ-errs are at fault for a lot of this but
BETTER actors could have pulled this off with an emotional response
other than laughter from the audience)

Gnarly starts the sonogram:

ICK: "Oh will it be the same as when I was pregnant?"
GNAR: "Well sort of but we'll be looking at other things"
ICK" "oh. (staring and squinting into the monitor) What's that? How do
you know what all those things are???
GNAR (Looking like she's ready to slap some sense into this woman's
brain) "I'd be in BIG trouble if I didn't know what they were!"
ICK: "How do you know what to look for"
GNAR (Getting more perturbed) "If something doesn't look normal or in
the place where it should be then there is a problem"
ICK "Duuuuuhhhhh" OK....

After it's over, Carly tries to ask Izzy if John is coming to pick her
up (No, because she is trying to hide this from him) and when Izzy says
no, Carly wants to wait to tell her about this when John is with her for
support (this makes a LOT of sense).  But NNNOOOOOOO  Izky had to know. 
So Carly tells her that there is a mass and they won't know until she
has a biopsy.  Then....withthe MOST blank stare on her face possible and
ABSOLUTELY NO emotion she does a jerk of her head toward the camera (to
get a good full-face shot) and says "You mean (gasp) I have....(gasp)
cancer/?????????? FREEZE FRAME - Fade to credits.

GAG!!!!!!!!  I thought Crystall did an OK job of trying to portray the
caring friend and doctor BUT STACI WAS PATHETIC!!!  I don't know if I
can stand to watch this death stuff for the next 2 months.

And speaking of 2 months - did I hear correctly that J&J said that Jenn
still had 2 months to go?  I thought she was due at the beginning of
September????  But I guess October is correct (now that DOOL can count).

Oh well just my 2 cents

Big*waiting for J&J to be back on 'cause it's the only thing I can
stomach*Banana
From: mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT:AIDS rapist??
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:58:55 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <Bu0EEv.EIo@andy.bgsu.edu> ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile) writes:

>Leafing thru TV Guide just now, I noticed that the ATWT update (for next week)

>included lines to the effect that Margo gets earth-shattering news about the 
>man who raped her.  Remember how in that scene in the police station a few
>days ago the writers made a point of stressing the fact that Tom was getting
>a court-order for semen-match tests to be done???
>               I think that an AIDS-scare, HIV+ or AIDS storyline is 
>               brewing here.  Guess we'll find out next week...

>                                               ciao for now

>                                          saint crystal of tender buttons


I agree. I've thought this for a while now.  In fact, I remember when 
Margo was at the hospital after the rape, I thought to myself, why hasn't
anyone brought up the possibility of HIV or other sexually transmitted
diseases. But then remember when John made a point of telling Tom to call
him in LA (or wherever he and Iva were going) as soon as the rapist was
caught? I thought then and there AHA John wants this guy tested for HIV.

I think it will just be an AIDS scare though. I don't think that the 
writers will do that to Margo. But I hope they do at least go through the
testing process and deal with Margo's anger and rage over this on top of
everything else.

                                   Sheila M.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: DOOL:  CARLY
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:24:44 GMT

In article <8202@dirac.physics.purdue.edu> cf@planck.physics.purdue.edu (Coleen Flanagan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.202602.8712@scubed.com> mona@scubed.com (Mona Ellis) writes:

>>  Well, I've been wanting them to get back together forever.
>>  I hated Carly and the old Bo.  I was so optimistic when there
>>mona

>         Since DAYS is in such a slump no good stories on
>         the horizon for the foreseeable future I can relate to
>         those who are longing to enjoy another couple.  I too
>         at a story.  [Stick with me here -- I'm trying to make a
>         point! I really am. :=)]  The soap Gods must have heard

[stuff about the rape deleted for brevity]

>         the rapist.  The bottom line --  DAYS doesn't intend to hand
>         Larry an excuse.  If Jennifer is not allowed to be in scenes
>         with them then Larry can hardly apologize to her.  The show 
>         will simply forget it happened.  The worst part about this 
>         whole scenario for me is that Lawrence never admitted he 
>         raped Jennifer.  If we accept this newfound love of Carly
>         and Lawrence IMO then we are no better than the joker who
>         runs this show!
>         ======
>         Coleen
>         ======


Ok, I guess I see your point.  I completely forgot about the
rape.  It wouldn't work to have Carly and Larry get together,
after the rape with out a whole bunch of redemption stuff like
Jack went through, and I guess I think that this could ruin
the character of Lawrence.

I guess my point was...that if we are going to have to see
Carly, especially in a relationship, at least put her with
someone she has some chemistry with.  Her and Bo have the
chemistry of 2 dead fish.  I can't stand to watch them together.
I don't know about the Carly/Larry relationship thing, but
all I know is that I don't mind watching Carlips when being
shown with Larry or Viv.  Now maybe it is just the talent
of her acting partner at the time that makes her more bearable,
in fact, the more I think about it, the more I think that
it is the reason.  She still can't act, others just make her
look better.

Obviously, we don't have the power to really change anything,
we saw that with the loss of Danielle, Kayla, Chip, etc.  We
tried hard, but saw no results.  We have also complained about
lack of storylines for J&J, Julie, etc, and still saw no results.
I for one am pretty tired of it all.  I watch to watch my show, 
not some shit that should be flushed down the toilet!

So my point is, if we have to watch Carlips, Boink, Icky, etc,
at least put them with someone that can act so they look better.

--Sad Pickle

PS - Onion, got the tapes of R&D yesterday and am way psyched
     to start viewing them this weekend.  YEEE-HAWWWW








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From: jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Y&R: Dru's "Pimp" has a conscience (sp?)
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:26:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jmgst26@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

So, one minute Juice is selling Dru, the next he's the altruist!  Give me
one helluva big break!!!  And Dru walks out and gives Juice the lovey dovey
eyes after he sold her for $750!  I know it's just a soap but sometimes they
way overstep the bounds of reality.

It appears Nikki will pass off Jack's baby as Vic's (as someone recently
predicted).  If she's pregnant though, she has been for sometime, matter
of fact I thought she was still putting Jack off as far as sex is
concerned, first her back and then Victor entered the picture as excuses.
Well, the soap opera aging machine will take care of that, just like
Nikki's 17 year old daughter.  I got a kick out of Victor's comment "you
don't look like someone who could have a 17 year old daughter". EXACTLY!

Mike Goodwin
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sunday, 23 Aug 1992 11:15:19 EDT
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN lurker news
 <1992Aug20.165215.13094@SSD.intel.com> <1082@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com>

>jv>But Julia, what about a SEATTLE rats party?  I'm game!  I could bring my
>jv>tapes of Erica's Fantastic Dream Sequence with all her ex-husbands!
>>
Does Erica's Fantastic Dream Sequence have any reference whether or not
she ever married Mike Roy?  I remember the dream, but not all the people
in the dream.   Could you watch it againg and post the answer?

Thanks

Joni Snyder

>Julia Henry
>jah0532@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: n2413@cray.com (Jo Theis)
Subject: Re: ATWT:comments
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:14:53 CDT

In article <1992Aug27.184318.3890@walter.bellcore.com> semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.122005.18617@hemlock.cray.com>, n2413@cray.com (Jo Theis) writes:
>|> >
>|> >Also, someone asked if we should start referring to Jess and DunkHim as
>|> >"Salt n' Pepper"?  Doesn't anyone remember when we used to call them
>|> >"Ebony and Ivory"?  I still like that one ... EandI ....
>|> 
>|> So what are we gonna call their pod?  "88?"
>
>All right - I don't get this.

Well, it's pretty obtuse, and apparently not very funny.  The song "Ebony and
Ivory" had to do with the two colors "...living in perfect harmony...side by
side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why can't we?..."  There are 88 keys on a
piano...

Ah well.
>
>GGG
>
- JlJ

-- 
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    n2413@cray.com	         ass of human experience."
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From: corinne@freya.cs.umass.edu (Corinne J. Roy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: RE: GH: Ramblings
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:01:25 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

>If Dr. Staltler is Frisco I'll be very upset.  Remmeber, that the Dr. 
>is obssessed with Felicia,  and he did kill  someone.  You can tell that
>from his thinking.
>.....Liz

Ditto.  Frisco was, and still is my favorite character (or should I say that I think Jack Wagner is the most gorgeous man alive!!) (No flames please :-))
When Stalker first came on, my friend suggested it might be Frisco.  I hope this isn't the case!! 
--Cori
From: sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: TAN: Offing Ickie, Scenario #15
Date: 23 Aug 1992 21:58:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu



One day Officer Butthead is on the beat....he runs into Ickie and they
start up a converstation. Jack passes buy, and stares intently at Butthead...
"Beelzebub has a devil put aside for meee, for me." Huh, they ask. "Didn't
anyone ever tell you that you look alot like Freddie Mercury," Jack replies,
and takes off (that is his scene for the week). They look at each other and
shake their heads. But then Ickie says that Jack is right he does look like
him. She goes home to be with John who is having MORE financial problems. BUT
WAIT, Ickiethecrackexecutive has a plan.....Why not get the band of Quenn
together for she has found the perfect Freddie Saturn replacement..."Saturn?"
a perplexed John asks.  "Oooops I meant Mercury...dah..." Anyway they set
it up. The whole town shows up...the former members of Queen do too (what
with the great mall set blown-up and other cast members let go Corday has
even more money to blow).  Just then Butthead enters upon the stage, the
crowd is agasp, he is a pretty good imitation. Then he begins "Is this
really life is this a fan..." before he could finish the crowd storms the
stage, Ickie who is there pulling a Linda McCartney with a tamberine, is
first to be attacked...the crowd yelling, "You ain't no Bill Graham." She
is crushed to death in a grizzly, and most enjoyable scene. Next the crowd
goes after Butthead one of the fans grabs a bass and impails Butthead with
it...he dies quickly, "That's for insulting the memory of a great artist
says some person by the name of Kiwi Peel.  Meanwhile, Camel finds out about
this. The news is too much and she returns to her former order in 
Gaza...the Camel Lite nuns, who tend to a flock of camels, reported
decendents of the three camels who carried the Magi to the the Baby
Jesus. Carly is in charge of the convent's most important relic, a
petrified camel pie, which supposedly was dropped buy one of the camels at
the very manger...a true Holy Relic. 


Spud--galileo...galileo...galileo..figaro--Peel


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A way to talk around the problem                  ||  Potato "Spud" Peel
Building towered foresight isn't anything at all  || sally@mica.berkeley.edu
Buy the sky and sell the sky and bleed the sky and tell the sky--R.E.M.
From: semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT: Questions about Tease's pregnancy
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:49:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: walter.1992Aug28.174925.4213
Reply-To: semele@oscar.bellcore.com (Semele Halkedis)
Organization: Bellcore

I need something cleared up.  Is Tease actually pregnant or is she 
inventing this to hang on to her darling duh...Hutch?  Did we see her take a
test or go to the doctor or anything?  Does anyone besides Courtney know?
(She told Courtney, right?)

Thanks.

GGG
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semele@oscar.bellcore.com   |   we imagine, it is stranger than we
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From: maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Kim-2 and Phillip
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:06:39 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I realize that it's difficult to try to draw _logical_ conclusions from
dialogue on DOOL, especially since the writers do such a _wonderful_ job of
continuity.  But . . .

Did it strike anyone else that perhaps Phillip has seen Kim's other side?  When
Phillip showed up he made some comments that made me think that he thinks this
other part is just another facet of his fiancee's personality.

So, what do you think . . .?

--Mary
From: dias@milton.u.washington.edu (Vivian Dias)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Sawyer's Virginity
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:20:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep2.142014.7631
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Sep2.140011.22043@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
>
>I enjoyed the introduction of Skylar. I thought his inter-action with
>BJ and Warren went well. Sure hope that Nichols can improve the ratings.
>I thought a decision about the future of SB was to be determined yesterday.
>Has anyone heard anything?

  It was a very different Nichols that what we got on DOOL. I hope he helps
  the ratings too, but doesn't it seem like there are an awfully lot of
  single men running around SB at the moment?  Mind you, I'm not complaining
  but we have Warren, Micah, Ted, Reese soon will be apparently, CC, the
  ever-so-attractive Agent McCabe, and now Master Gates.  There aren't
  enough women to go around so I guess I'll just have to volunteer to help
  out.  Oh the sacrifices we make on behalf of our favorite soap.
  
>
>I still think Rafe and Lilly are the pitts and I thought the dog was great
>in the scene with the creep.
 
  I think it's important that they keep Rafe and Lilly 'cuz it gives me
  somthing to fast forward through.  Now John, how can you call a man
  that shares his Chinese take-out with his critter a creep?  I am
  definetly in love now :-)
>
>John


  Given that Tuesday was Stephen Nichols debut as Master Skylar Gates I
  was gonna do this really super, terrific update, I mean, I even came 
  in early and everything then I discovered I left all my notes at home
  so I'll post something tonight.
  For those of you on the east coast who are losing S.B. hang in there.
  I've offered to send Wanda a weeks worth of tapes at a time so maybe
  we can get something going.
               
  -Vivian