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From: rpb@psy.ox.ac.uk (Ray Bellis)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Camilla-gate
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:20:28 GMT
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Distribution: uk
Organization: Dept. of Experimental Psychology, Oxford, England.
In-reply-to: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk's message of 22 Jan 93 09:47:05 GMT


In article <1993Jan22.094705.17056@cs.hw.ac.uk> adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt) writes:

   Here's another thought:
   If the newspaper editors think it's so important that the public be made
   aware of the private lives of important people, why don't they publish
   details of their own (or each other's) sex lives?  Either they don't have
   any, which explains their fascination with everyone else's, or we have a
   right to know what they get up to.
   :-)

Isn't that what Private Eye is for? :-)

Ray.
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From: esrne@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr P I Neaves)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:58:34 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: uk
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In article <1993Jan21.124903.8158@bradford.ac.uk> S.S.B.Glover@bradford.ac.uk (SSB GLOVER) writes:
>Another problem these days, given the size of the GBG is that several
>local camra groups have been known to not be able to fit in all the
>good pubs in an area, or to put in some mediocre ones because they wish
>to have as many entries as the local rivals, or simply to keep the good
>pubs to themselves.
>
>I'd vote FOR.
>
>
>Steve Glover

Thanks Steve.

I agree that a lot of the information is available elsewhere.
The CAMERA guide is very inconsistant - and does not provide info
about local events, beer promotions etc. I certainly dont want to
go to a pub with a Karaoke night or one packed with students etc. So what if
it only gets postings like "Is there a FIRKIN pub in Canterbury ?", "Is
there a student pub in Manchester !!?". Such info. is useful.
I would have thought such info would be useful for Academic and Student types
with things like couses and conferences to attend.

The British Pub is unique, along with the beer and the hangovers.

So, lets get talking about it.

Phil
From: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Camilla-gate
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:47:05 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland


Here's another thought:
If the newspaper editors think it's so important that the public be made
aware of the private lives of important people, why don't they publish
details of their own (or each other's) sex lives?  Either they don't have
any, which explains their fascination with everyone else's, or we have a
right to know what they get up to.
:-)

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Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: dingram@dims.demon.co.uk ("Darren P. Ingram")
Subject: Re: Credit cards - Visa vs. MasterCard (aka Access) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Darren Ingram Media Services
Reply-To: dingram@dims.demon.co.uk
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:26:22 +0000

In article <1993Jan26.100402.29732@infodev.cam.ac.uk> maj@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:

!Midland Arts Card is Mastercard, fee-free, and donates money to arts-related
!charities whenever you use it.

I don't suppose you have an address/tel no?

TIA.. Darren

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From: agc@weasel.demon.co.uk (Alan Charlton)
Subject: Re: Papa! Nicole! (was Re: Ariston music for TV Advert)
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:08:59 +0000

In article <1993Jan25.095737.9157@jet.uk> djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson) writes:

   Incidentally, it cost SEVENTY QUID for a new headlamp for my Pug 205.  What's
   French for "rip-off" ?

I should co-co!  They must have seen you coming, matey - I bought one
last year year and it only cost 45 quid (Dando's of Chipping Sodbury).

Ho-hum.....

Alan
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From: alan@essex.ac.uk [Alan M Stanier]
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:49:50 GMT
Reply-To: alan@essex.ac.uk
Distribution: uk
Organization: University of Essex

Also sprach M.E.Bullivant@bradford.ac.uk (Martin Bullivant)
}Yes there will be a 29th February 2000, 3000 and 4000 (any year divisible by
}1000)
}
}Leap years occur in every year divisible by 4 EXCEPT if it's divisble by 100.
}However years divisible by 400 ARE leap years.
}

So how does 3000 make it?



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From: P.A.Foulkes@bradford.ac.uk (Pete Foulkes)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:18:12 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91453585@mail

In article <C19FyH.GBs@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> monaghan@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (N.O. Monaghan) writes:
>TREHARAJ@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk writes:
>>Elizabeth writes:
>>>Sounds a good idea?  A student guide to the best pubs in Britain...
>>I don't think we ought to rely on students to tell us what is a good
>>pub, they tend to go for the closest one to their campus which
>>will cash their cheques when the cashpoint tells them to sod off.
>


>            - nothing worse than a broken cashpoint,
>especially when you know that you have funds there.
>

How about a working cashpoint that knows you haven't
got funds there. :-)

Bye bye card.

	Peter.

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From: zzassps@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Phil Stringer)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:39:29 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <zlsiida.823@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>In article <C17yEy.7BJ@exnet.co.uk> dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon) writes:
>
>>I call it `hash', but then I call `!' `pling' or `bang' so I may be
>>atypical!  B^>
>
>We have a guy here who calls "!" "shriek"

Of course! The George 3 operating used "!" for specifying workfiles
(temporary files), and the character was called "shriek". If I remember
correctly the definition is in the "George 3 Operating Systems" manual.

Of course I couldn't show you as the George 3 manuals went a long time ago!
(But I do still have the cassette course "The Anatomy of George 3"!)
 
>and why not?
>
>            All creatures will make merry   (on pain of death)
>    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033  


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From: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Henry S. Thompson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Data transfer onto CDROM
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:25:14 GMT
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Distribution: uk
Organization: HCRC, University of Edinburgh

For single discs, you need somebody with a pre-mastering and
test-pressing kit, which you can get from Young Minds in the US for
something like $5000, I think.

For professional mastering and pressing, the US is cheaper by 20-50%
for small runs, in my experience, for DIGITAL (CD-ROM) masters, but
whether they would do a master-and-test-press for a reasonable price,
I don't know.

For professional mastering and pressing, the US is cheaper by 20-50%
for small runs, in my experience, for DIGITAL (CD-ROM) masters, but
whether they would do a master-and-single-(test)-press for a
reasonable price, I don't know -- you could ask:

Discovery Systems
7001 Discovery Boulevard, Dublin, Ohio 43017, USA
Fax: +1 614-761-4258

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From: pkh@cs.nott.ac.uk (Kevin Hopkins)
Newsgroups: uk.events,uk.misc
Subject: Re: F1 World Championship, 3rd round, Donington Park
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:00:13 GMT
Followup-To: uk.misc
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <zlsiida.844@fs1.mcc.ac.uk>, zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
|> The European Grand Prix, the 3rd round of the F1 World Championship, will be 
|> held at Donington Park on Sunday April 11th.

|> Tickets: 0602-483456

For information, it is 55-60 (#,L,GBP,UKP,etc.) to get into the GP on the
Sunday and 120 thingies if you want to get into the GP and sit in one of
the stands. These are the sort of prices Silverstone was charging last year
when i) there was a chance of a UK world champion, and ii) Silverstone had
built up a name for itself as the host of the GB Grand Prix. I am not casting
aspersions on Donington Park's right to hold the GP, just that as this is
the first time they have held a F1 GP in 50 years they shouldn't really be
trying to charge prices that even Silverstone might not get away with this year.

|> Photographers: you can often get much better shots during the practise 
|> sessions, Friday and Saturday.

Friday's practice is around 15 thingies and Saturday's 20 or 25. The practice
prices are vague as I have left the leaflet at home, but in the correct region.
The prices are for advance booking. Closer to the event add about a fiver
to all prices.

I've directed follow-ups to uk.misc

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Newsgroups: uk.misc,alt.conspiracy
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Camilla-gate
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78C52293E010855@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 22:52:25 GMT
Organization: No Affiliation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:57:21 GMT

In article <JIM.93Jan27123206@hunter.cs.strath.ac.uk> Jim Reid,
jim@cs.strath.ac.uk writes:
>And where can any of us buy encryption devices which use RSA (let
>alone ones for real-time encoding/decoding of telephone
>conversations)?


Don't need to buy it: you can get PGP which is an excellent RSA 
implementation for free from a whole host of sites. You can even ftp it 
from the US if you like :-)

>Note too that a strong ciphersystem is in itself not secure. Care has
>to be taken with key management. How often have UNIX systems been
>broken into because users choose obvious passwords (keys) or make them
>public? This goes for DES, RSA and even Captain Marvel's Magic Decoder
>Ring.

Correct. I never implied otherwise.

>
>   This view is reinforced when one considers that the NSA place
>   restrictions on its use and distribution within the US.
>
>This is a popular misconception. Firstly, it's the US government which
>restricts the export of encryption technology, not the NSA (though
>they do advise the US government).

Tru, I was being sloppy: the US Govt defines encryption technology as 
"munitions", but the NSA (or its forerunners) probably had a hand in 
drafting the definition.

>Secondly, RSA Inc has patented the
>RSA algorithm in the USA. These patents don't apply in most of the
>rest of the world because of differences in patent law. RSA Inc won't
>export their product until they are able to protect it with overseas
>patents.

RSA, Inc. no longer owns the patents: they are owned by Public Key 
Partners, who appear to be just a litigation company waiting for somebody 
to infringe, and then sue.

>   If you want more detail I can post a FAQ on the subject of public
>   key cryptography.
>
>No thanks. I have read enough books on this subject already.
>
>		Jim

Good for you.

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From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.news
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:44:25 GMT
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Distribution: uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1993Jan22.123237.6628@its.bt.co.uk> tjo@its.bt.co.uk (Tim Oldham) writes:

>uk.drinking: Discussion of aspects of the production, distribution
>		and consumption of alcoholic and non-alcoholic fluids.

Great!  This could be the one group where people were forbidden to
discuss driving :-)

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From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:59:51 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <1993Jan21.093230.12348@wraxall.inmos.co.uk>, des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd) writes:
> Philip Hazel (ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
> : And some IBM EBCDIC terminals had sterling where the dollar sign should be and
> : dollar where the cent sign should be. You wouldn't BELIEVE how much trouble we
> : had to go to in order to get U.S. keyboards out of Big Blue...
> 
> don't worry - Sun are up to the same tricks now that they're trying to
> be an office machine supplier rather than workstation supplier - our
> last machine in this group came with a UK Type 5 keyboard - everything,
> including the delte key, control key, quotes, etc etc is in subtley
> different places from the TYpe 4 keyboard that all our other sparc
> stations use. Apparently you can specify something more similar to 
> the old type 4 layout but we never knew that till it arrived.

But from what I've read on the net, the Type 5 keyboard is like a PC keyboard
(ie: it has all the keys you'll need and in sensible places) which is miles
better than Sun's keys in places you'd never expect keyboards. The only
keyboards with worse layout than Sun, is HP. DEC keyboards (which I am typing
this on) are at least similar to PC keyboards, which lets face it, are going
to be the world standard one day, and not a day too soon, as long as it isn't
a NorthGate keyboard layout.
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From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Ariston music for TV Advert
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:29:09 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <1jmbgjINNdef@oak43.doc.ic.ac.uk>, ijp@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer) writes:
> In article <C17GDD.1uE@brunel.ac.uk> Andy.Taylor@brunel.ac.uk (Andy J Taylor) writes:
>>
>>I hate the diamonds, loath the Meridian logo and yearn for TVS's much
>>more tasteful one (not the colour one, but the silvery one).

Errr, confused:-

Are 'the diamonds' those silly /\  shapes that disappear in about half a second
                               \/ 
in a flash of colour after the programs?

What is the meridian logo? What does it look like?
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From: TREHARAJ@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Newsgroup uk.pubs ??
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:10:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk

Elizabeth writes:

>Sounds a good idea?  A student guide to the best pubs in Britain...
>

I don't think we ought to rely on students to tell us what is a good
pub, they tend to go for the closest one to their campus which
will cash their cheques when the cashpoint tells them to sod off.

Andy T.
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Telly Addicts
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:35:17 +0000

	>I find this reassuring.  Whilst I might be persuaded to part from the
	>box for #1M, there are some other activities I wouldn't swap for the
	>aforementioned cash.  Whatever you think about the taste of the 15%,
	>at least it means that (to some people at least) money isn't
	>everything.

	The report in the paper also mentions that two-thirds of those
	surveyed said they wouldn't give up TV for 10000 pounds (I'm not
	getting into the argument about how to write "pounds"!) and one-third
	wouldn't for 100000 pounds.  Money may not be everything for these
	people, but it seems that TV is...

	(Of course, if someone offered me a similar sum of money to give
	up Radio 4 I might think rather more carefully...)

The big question is, how much would it take for anyone here to give
up net access for life?  I think my price would have to be well over
a million...

G
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: cw117@mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk (Charlie Wright (Genetics))
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Apple StyleWriter cartridge, #15 postage paid
Organization: U. of Cambridge, England
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:53:11 GMT

Not to put a damper on anyone's sales, but those cartridges are dead-easy to
refill.  I have yet to find the limit to which this can be repeated, but
more than several recharges is a good guess.  Some U.S. companies sell 
refill kits, but with a syringe, some rubbing alcohol, and some quality
fountain-pen ink, you can make your own.  txt file detailing this can be
found under /packages/mac-umich via anonymous ftp to src.doc.ic.ac.uk
The actual subdirectory escapes me just now, but you should be able to
find it from there.  Good Luck.

C. Wright
U. Camb. Dept. of Genetics


Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: ljp@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Guido)
Subject: Re: US/UK paper size difference, xeroxing
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:33:52 GMT

In article <C19pL6.7GL@exnet.co.uk> dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon) writes:
>In article <JRG.93Jan21121926@oak48.doc.ic.ac.uk> jrg@doc.ic.ac.uk (James Grinter) writes:
>> ...          We already use standard paper sizes in the UK (well,
>>most of the time).
>
>Except, of course, in our tractor-feed printers where we get 8.5" x
>11", eg US.

Unless we put A4 tractor feed paper into the printer.

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Newsgroups: uk.misc,rec.arts.tv.uk
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Ariston music for TV Advert
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:25:11 GMT

In article <C19oBw.Iur@cck.coventry.ac.uk> mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru) writes:
>In article <1993Jan17.151846.27111@csd.uwe.ac.uk> d_smith@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Dylan Smith) writes:
>>>
>>>[These ads were on London-area C4, I don't know whether the ads are regional
>>>or networked].
>>
>>They were on in the HTV area in the same order, so I think they are 
>>national.
>
>guru sez:
>	they will be, since C4 doesn't do any regional stuff except for S4C
>	(it seems the Welsh are too thick to watch normal C4 porgrammes, so
>	they get their very own), unlike BBC2, which does have regional opts
>	(Tuesdays at 7:30, if memory serves).

Well, guru should check his facts next time he sez anything:

Advertising on C4 was by region until the end of last year (each ITV
company sold airtime in its own region).  The fact that there are no
regional *programmes* on C4 is irrelevant.  However, C4 now sells its
own airtime, and the current argument is about whether it does so
nationally or regionally.  (By the way, what about Classic FM?)

The primary purpose of S4C (which isn't part of C4) is to broadcast
programmes in the Welsh language, which take up most of peak viewing
time.  A selection of C4 programmes are shown in the off-peak slots;
their scheduling is often different to C4 scheduling, but they're (a
subset of) the same programmes.

Oh, and the regional slot on BBC2 is 7.30 on Thursdays, not Tuesdays.

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From: d_smith@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Dylan Smith)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:23:39 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <C13IJG.nw@micrognosis.co.uk> jharuni@micrognosis.co.uk writes:
>A lot of people seem to use the symbol "#" (NUMBER) in place of the crossed
>letter ell (STERLING) when refering to the British Pound Sterling.
>Has this become some sort of de-facto standard ?  I find it uncomfortable
>to read "#10" as "ten pounds".

Some terminals has DEC VT100 (UK) emulation like the Liberty ones we have.
On my terminal what you typed as a hash appears as a proper pound sign.
I usually use a UK terminal when reading uk newsgroups and set it back
to ASCII when I'm not.
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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Symbol for pound sterling
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:32:03 GMT
	<1993Jan21.093230.12348@wraxall.inmos.co.uk>
	<1993Jan22.145951.2964@lsl.co.uk>
Distribution: uk
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <1993Jan22.145951.2964@lsl.co.uk> snail@lsl.co.uk writes:

   But from what I've read on the net, the Type 5 keyboard is like a PC
   keyboard (ie: it has all the keys you'll need and in sensible places)

All the keys you'll need if you're using a PC rather than a Sun.  Since
they're fitted to Suns, that seems pretty pointless, and a large backwards
step. 
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Newsgroups: uk.jobs,uk.misc