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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:08:43 CST
From:         "(Arturo Sanchez)" <txmrtur@TXM.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject: Re: Mail order CD's

>If you're careful, this is not too bad a deal. It's even better if you can
>get friends to join, as they give you a couple of CD's for signing them up.

[...]

I used to order from Columbia also, but their deliveries started to take
longer than the payment bills. Once I got two payment bills before I
got the CD package! :-/ :-\  And worse later, I got a payment order and
never got the package actually. I sent them a letter quitting the club
(all requirements achieved already) and told them about the missing CDs
and that I'd pay AFTER I've finally received the package...it never
arrived and they kept bugging for a couple of months more until finally
they understood what had happened. :-)

>There's also the BMG CD club, which runs even better sales (like buy 2 at
>1/2 price, get 1 free - works out to about $7.50/CD), but their catalog is
>*really* skimpy usually.

I used to order more from this one also and I have no complaints, on the
 contrary,
they give you more selections, better prices and shorter delivery time! :^D
My 2 cents...;-)

Regards,
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From:         Clint Pearcy <clintp@PARROT.CREIGHTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Music to Boat by
              Oct 7, 92 12:28 pm

> I am now the proud owner of a 24' Rainbow class sloop.
>
Congratulations!

> Don't delay, hasten those votes in today, folks!
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Maybe the soundtrack from "Wind" (the sailing movie).  Haven't heard it, but
there might be something on it.

Same with the Columbus movies.  Gotta be a few sailing songs there...

"Yellow Submarine" by the Beatles (of course)

"Come Sail Away" by Styx

Clint Pearcy
clintp@parrot.creighton.edu
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From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      loosing the fire

>From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
>NEW THREAD:
>I would like to know if most people work out the songs note-for-note or
>do as i prefer and Live-on-the-edge every time(of course some songs require
>some working out), but otherwise it gets mechinical and looses it's intensity
>and instead of being fun it becomes work and you play the same solo over and
>over it seems to loose it's "fire" what are your thoughts....Lenny Ray

That's one of the "features" of the old analog synthesizers I use:
it is impossible to play a piece precisely the way you played it before.
Analog definately means living on the edge.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      2nd attempt

  A few weeks ago I send out a couple of mails requesting info and have
received absolutly no responce. So, let's try again:

Firstly - does anyone know anything about either of the two groups
          BLOWZABELLA or PATRICK STREET?

Secondly - can any one tell me if the book 'The Complete Beatles
          Recording Sessions' by Mark Lewisohn is available in the USA,
          because it has been deleted here in Europe? I'm also
          interested in a second-hand copy if anyone wants to sell
          me their's.

Still hopeful,
Paul
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Date: 15 Oct 92 20:48:24 GMT
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Now I gotta get "Ta-ra-ra-boom-de-ay" outta my head too.
I sympathise with you Rick.

Paul
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From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Epic debut albums - part 2
              9 Oct 1992 08:29:01 MEZ from <RMCB%DLRVM.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>

>Tears for Fears - *was there first album 'From the Big Chair'?*
Their first album was 'The Hurting' and frankly it's a hell of a lot better
than SFBC.

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From: Lee=Jenkins%PCB=Sys=Int%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
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Date: 16 Oct 92 15:24:37 GMT
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From: "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024%UABDPO.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>
Subject: Blues - Put up or Shut up
Date: Friday, October 16, 1992 at 6:31:10 am CDT

>So now it's put up or shut up....admit your wrong and can't do it or
>fill my mailbox.......What you gonna do......I'll be waiting L.W.

your offer is lopsided, lennie.  you need to offer to record a song
chosen by one of your challengers and trade tapes.  you want to post a
review of their work?  let them review how well you can pull of the
music you regularly blast.

and len, please don't take this personally, but you have a habit of
misunderstand what people are saying, so let me tell you what i'm *not*
saying:

   i'm not saying the blues are inferior to other forms of music.

i would be surprised if you would submit to the same kind of treatment
that you want to use on others.  "put up or shut up" is pretty macho,
len.  how would you do trying to pull off metallica's _master of
puppets_?  do you care to transcribe the first solo violin part of
bach's double violin concerto and try playing it with all the depth
it deserves?  do you think you could sit through sonny sharrock long
enough to learn the parts?

maybe you caould do all those things, and more.  i would be among the
first to acknowledge your talent if you did.  i don't want to make you
angry, i just want to get you to look at what you're saying.


lee
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Date: 13 Oct 92 19:41:00 GMT
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>        I dont normally like the tonight show but last night was an
>exception.  Anyone else see it?

I saw it and thought Motorhead was rather unimpressive.  It just did
NOTHING for me.  If I had been in the audience I would have been very
grateful for the ear plugs.  It will be interesting, though, if Axle
Rose's voice sounds that bad in 5 years.

Ah well, sorry for being so critical.  Call ma cranky.

later days and sunny rays,
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From:         KCOYLE@WOOSTER.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Axial Coding

Strauss's newest text (as far as I know, anyway) is

Strauss, A. L. (1987).  _Qualitative analysis for social scientists._ Cambridge,
U.K.:  Cambridge University Press.

Kelly
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Subject:      Re: LEA

Thanks!  I will check it out, and prod my library here as
necessary.

Susan
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From:         "Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet)" <TK0JUT1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Disciplinary distinctions

Martin asks:

    >I'm intrigued by the distinction made by Jim between
    >"disciplinary" distinctions and "intellectual" distinctions.  I
    >was starting to think that Kuhn had taught us that intellectual
    >distinction *were* disciplinary distinctions.  How am I to tell
    >to two apart, please?

By "disciplinary distinctions" I mean the essentially administrative
boundaries that carve out the intellectual domains, by which I mean
the epistemological/ontological characteristics of our research
thrust.  I'm borrowing from Bourdieu's concept of symbolic violence in
arguing that disciplinary imposition on intellectual matters is a form
of primordial territorialism.  Academic disciplines, like dogs, seem
quite adept at marking their territory and aggressively attempting to
defend it.

To keep this in perspective, this thread began out of experiences in
attempting to defend both a topic and a method as "ethnographic" in
the face of "true believers" of a theory, method, paradigm, or
whatever. Kuhn was addressing paradigmatic changes rather than
administrative/bureaucratic/organizational processes in which inquiry
occurs and which I'm suggesting contribute to our perceptions of a
"science." I don't see my claim in opposition to Kuhn.
But, Martin's allusion to Kuhn raises a fascinating question of
how *administrative/organizational* distinctions shape
paradigmatic changes.
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Subject:      Re: Axial Coding

Do you have the complete reference for Straus' newest text?

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From:         Solomon.Yusim@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU
Subject:      Grounded interpretive method
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Does anybody know what a grounded interpretive method is, within the scope
of qualitative research?  In the September-October issue of Family Medicine,
there is an article by Dozor and Addison, titled Toward a Good Death: An
Interpretive Investigation of Family Practice Residents' Practices with
Dying Patients, which seems to be the first piece of qualitative research
in a traditional medical journal.

"In interpretative research, statistical reliability, validity, and gene-
ralizability are not at issue.  Instead, an account's 'comprehensiveness,
comprehensibility, intelligibility, credibility, meaningfulness, signi-
ficance, and fruitfulness for opening up new possibilities' must be assessed."
Mind simply boggles.  8-)

But, still, what is a grounded interpretive method?  I thought that every
method should be (is) grounded and interpretive.  Not so?

Solomon Yusim
Baylor College of Medicine
Houston, Texas
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From:         "Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet)" <TK0JUT1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Thomas ?? on ethnography

Thanks to those observing that there are individuals and groups
in all disciplines aware possessing cross-disciplinary literacy.
I never suggested otherwise. My point was that the structure and
practice of academia tends to create boundaries rather than break
them down.

Jim
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From:         "Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet)" <TK0JUT1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Life History

For some basic life history texts, check out the SAGE qualitative
methodology series (esp. Norm Denzin's work).  Clifford Shaw's THE
JACK ROLLER, Jon Snodgrass's THE JACK-ROLLER at Seventy, and James
Bennett's ORAL HISTORY AND DELINQUENCY.  There's voluminous literature
on this, and you could start with a subject search in your library or
the biblio's from some of the works mentioned above.
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Subject:      Re: Thomas ?? on ethnography
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Jim wrote:

>I'm often struck by how few "sociology" ethngraphers
>read anthropology, and, judging from conferences, books/articles,
>collegial discussions, and other sources, how far behind those in
>education seem to be to current debates in other disciplines.

Beware of generalizations.  There are educators who follow what is going on
in anthropology and sociology (and ethnomethodology).  I know quite a few
people from the literature but also in person who are on top of the debates
and who subscribe to a number of sociology and anthropology journals, cite
them regularly, etc.  It is just a matter of finding where they publish,
what sort of community they form, and how far the network reaches through
which they communicate.

For example, I know that at IRL in Palo Alto, there are quite a number of
people in these various fields who know each other, communicate, and cite
across the three fields (and others) which Jim mentioned as having strict
discipline boundaries.

I know quite a number of other groups who know what is going on in all
these fields.

((Is this a case where I countered a generalization with a few specific
cases which don't fit?  A matter of methodology?))

Michael


Wolff-Michael Roth, Ph.D.
Research Methods & Science Education
Faculty of Education
Simon Fraser University
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From:         KCOYLE@WOOSTER.BITNET
Subject:      Life History

Can anyone recommend texts describing life history interviewing which would be
suitable for an undergraduate methods class? Either theory or examples would be
welcome.

Thanks.

Kelly
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From: cids05@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Dr Stephen K Tagg)
Subject: Re: Axial Coding
Organization: Univ of Strathclyde, GLASGOW, SCOTLAND
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:47:26 GMT

In article <01GPQNGPLF4I8WW1DX@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>, JENNINGT@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU writes:
> Does anyone out there actually perform axial coding?  If so, can you
> roughly describe your procedure?  I think may of us still find in rather
> mystifying.  Thanks.
> 
> Todd Jennings
> JENNINGT@CLARGRAD
I'm not doing axial coding but I have a friend who does...
It seems to involve having large number of bits of A3 paper with
concepts, maps and lines all over them, ALL over the walls of his office.
Looked very similar to Management Science Cognitive Mapping, by the way.
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From:         Richard Quantz <RHOFMANN@MIAMIU.BITNET>

Please sign me on to your qualitative bulletin board.  Thank-you.
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From:         Chris.Bigum@DEAKIN.OZ.AU
Subject: Re: Standardized Tests
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              15 Oct 1992 21:36:37 GMT

Michael,

This of no help I know but was wondering what a standardized survey that
measures the attitudes toward and expectations of educational technology in
general, and computer networking in particular to teachers would look like?
There is a field of study that is concerned with these issues. It is called
Intelligent Artificiality. It is roughly based upon accepting that the AI
project has failed and so we need to engineer humans to better fit machines.

Cheers,

Chris Bigum
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From:         Yvonna Lincoln <E101YL@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Life History

Dear Kelly:  There are two interesting sources for life histories.  The classic
 in the field of anthropology, including both method and examples, is

        LIVES: AN ANTHROPOLOGICAL APPROACH TO BIOGRAPHY. (1981)  L.L.
              Langness and Gelya Frank. Novato, CA: Chandler and
              Sharp.

Another good one is:

         Pachter, Marc, Ed. (1979).  TELLING LIVES: THE BIOGRAPHER'S
               ART.  Washington, D.C.:  New Republic Books.

You might also want to write to Lou Smith at Washington University in St. Louis
.  He has been doing excellent materials in life history methods, has a new
book manuscript he might be willing to share, and could be an invaluable resour
ce for you.  Either book above is suitable for undergraduates.

Hope this helps.    Yvonna
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From:         SCHIBERG@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      LEA

Forgive the ignorance, but what is LEA?  This journal would be
very useful for me, and I'd love to get a hold of it.  Thanks!

Susan Scheiberg
  schiberg@morekypr.bitnet
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Kelly:

I don't know if you already came across this.  There is a journal called

NARRATIVE AND LIFE HISTORY

published by LEA.  You might find it helpful, and come across even more
references than you received on this network.

Michael

Wolff-Michael Roth, Ph.D.
Research Methods & Science Education
Faculty of Education
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From:         "(Nicholas Sturm)" <aa248@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Every Good Method...
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>
>Ah, now there's a good topic for debate. Extending just a little on what
>Solomon Yusim has ask about "grounded interpretive method," What
>characteristics should every good method have?
>
>Now remember, that's EVERY good method...
>
>Mark Horney
>215 Education
>University of Oregon
>Eugene, OR 97403
>mhorney@oregon.uoregon.edu
>(503) 346-2679
>
>
  To diverge only a little.  "And what, class, constitutes a proof?"  After
a long pause, a small voice replied, "When I said, 'Oh?  You don't need to
continue, now I understand.'"


--
Nicholas Sturm, 4037 Ward Beecher, 410 Wick Ave., Youngstown, Ohio 44555
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From:         Al Futrell <AWFUTR01@ULKYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Subject: Ethnography etc

On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:39:36 EDT <RPSY@ASC.UPENN.EDU> said:
>
>In the short run, working within only one discipline affords us the chance to
>define research questions, collect data, and write our interpretation within a
>particular paradigm that recognizes only certain types of explanations. Our
>disciplinary paradigms contain lots of fuzzy areas that appear problematic to
>an
>outsider, but which have become "background" to the initiated.

Stan:  I may be misreading this, but it seems to me to say that disciplines
       are equated with paradigms.  I would argue that someone writing in
       a paradigm may be more comprehensible to someone else operating
       within the same paradigm, regardless of discipline.  Many people
       in anthropology are more "comprehensible" to sociologists than
       to other anthropologists.  It seems that this list illustrates a
       commonality that has little to do (most of the time) with disciplines
       and more to do with shared epistemological assumptions about what
       research questions are the important ones.


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Al Futrell, awfutr01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
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From:         Howard Rosenbaum <H71ROSEN@SUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      A recent A. Strauss cite

My apologies if this has already been posted, but here is the
cite for a recent book by Strauss:

Strauss, A. (1991). _Creating Sociological Awareness: Collective
   Images and Symbolic Representations_  New Brunswick, NJ: Trans-
   action Publishers

It is a collection of papers, essays, and book chapters he has
written alone and with others.

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