From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Re: Myths about Promiscuity
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:45:34 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <98045@bu.edu>, kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
# #White  Black
# #N=574  N=111
# 
# #Lifetime number of homosexual partners  
# 		     White  Black  Total
# 		     N=574  N=111  N=685
# 1                      0%      0%     0%
# 2                      0       0      0
# 3-4                    1       2      1
# 5-9                    2       4      2
# 10-14                  3       5      3
# 15-24                  3       6      3
# 25-49                  8       6      8
# 50-99                  9      18     10
# 100-249               15      15     15 
# 250-499               17      11     16 
# 500-999               15      14     15 
# 1000 or more          28      19     27 
# 
# #Read this chart carefully.  More than half of the white male
# #homosexuals had 250 or more lifetime homosexual partners, as did
# #44% of the black male homosexuals. 
# 
# For the total numbers (which I've added), the weighted mean number
# of lifetime partners is 452.
# 
# #Just like the rest of us?
# #How many heterosexuals do you know that have 250 different
# #sexual partners in one lifetime?  How many do you know with 1000
# #or more?
# 
# To find an answer, look at Masters, Johnson, and Kolodny's "CRISIS:
# Heterosexual Behavior in the Age of AIDS", 1988.
# 
# pp 8-9: The authors surveyed 800 heterosexual adults with no homosexual
#         experience for the years 1977 through 1986. Of the 800, 400 are
#         monogamous (200 male, 200 female), and 400 (200 male, 200 female)
#         reported more than one sexual partner.
# 
# 	"The average annual number of sex partners in the non-monogamous
# 		     ^^^^^^
# 	 group was 11.5 for women and 9.8 for men."
# 		   ^^^^		      ^^^

But you've now examined ONLY the non-monogamous group, and left out
the monogamous group.  What's the average for heterosexuals?  You
haven't told us enough to know.

# Over the 9 years of this study, which is certainly less than a
# "lifetime", then the men averaged 90 partners, the women, 100.
# 				  ^^			  ^^^
# 
# If we consider an average lifetime sexually active period to be 50
# years, then the men have an average number of partners around 500.
# 							      ^^^

This assumes that the non-monogamous heterosexuals remain non-
monogamous, and at the same level of activity, for 50 years.
In fact, lots of non-monogamous heterosexuals grow up and become
monogamous.

# This is comparable to the 452 lifetime partners for gay men.
# 			  ^^^
# (Sorry, I coudn't find the number of years counted in the homosexual
# survey)
# 
# Another survey by Masters, Johnson, and Kolodny, reported on p. 125 of
# the same book, allows derivation of the average annual number of sexual
# partners for 200 homosexual men living in the northeast, as 22. This gives
# 							    ^^
# some indication of how homosexual men compare to non-married heterosexual
# men, who have an average of 10 partners per year.
# 			    ^^

Why not compare to all heterosexual men?  Or would the numbers not look
so good?

# So the promiscuity rate is more comparable than first thought. Homosexuals
# appear to be approximately twice as promiscuous as straight men. This may

Twice as promiscuous as non-monogamous straight men -- which are hardly
the norm in our society.

# have something to do with the relationship dynamic difference between women
# and men as opposed to men and other men, or it may be due to external social
# condemnation and its destabilizing effect on a relationship. (That according
# to my straight friend who is a sex therapist.)
# 
# kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University,

Or, the depraved nature of homosexuality.

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