HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: tin flame
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:39:25 GMT

In article <ianm.03r2@laghey.UUCP> ianm@laghey.UUCP (Ian Moran) writes:

>What
>exactly do you expect?. TIN is Iain's product, he is free to alter it as
>he sees fit, if you don't like that then get another reader!

Iain is under no sort of legal obligation to pay any attention to the
outside world, but then he should drop the pretense of tin being a
publicly-available product.  If I were to release a piece of software
but not intend to pay more than passing attention to what people
wanted from it, I would make the disclaimers about software support
many and loud.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser)
Subject: NNTP stuff
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:01:39 GMT

I am used to (unix) systems with local news posting, using plain
Cnews techniques.  Now, however, I'm coming into contact with systems
that use NNTP to pull news from a server (and to post via a server).

 - what technique is typically used to generate a list of available
   newsgroups, or to count available newsgroups, ala 'wc -l /usr/lib/news/
   newsgroups', or 'more /usr/lib/news/newsgroups'?

 - What is the equivalent of "postnews"?  Or shoudl postnews work OK,
   since it calls inews anyway, as long as inews knows to post via nntp?

Thanks,
bill

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: tin flame
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:32:49 GMT

Earlier this evening I compiled and installed tin 1.1 PL8, having gone
through the CHANGES document and determined to my satisfaction that
the greatest difference between it and PL7 was the elm-style
"mini-menu."  No sooner had I installed it, however, than I started
receiving complaints from my users about key settings changing,
specifically "t" and "T".

There it is, listed in CHANGES, but buried in between the rest of the
fixes in declarations and platform idiosyncrasies.  Furthermore, it's
listed as a "bug," when it seems nothing more than a change from
behavior that Iain didn't like.  First "f" and "F" get swapped, and
now this.  Does anyone actually want changes like these made?  Or are
they subject simply to every whim that strikes Iain's fancy?

I've decided that here I will not install future patches to tin unless
they take the package to a new version number, such as 2.0 (and
perhaps not even then) or fix major problems that people are
experiencing.  The changes are simply too erratic and unpredictable to
loose on my users every few weeks without warning.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: erodrigu@dcc.uchile.cl (Eduardo Rodriguez)
Subject: Re: RN problem -- default editor
Originator: erodrigu@tolten
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:09:07 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


In article <Bz3xLo.HwL@news.ucs.mun.ca>, glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke) writes:
> 
> 	A re-post of my incorrectly-posted previous article:
> 
> 	Basically, I just wanted to know how to set up rn so that
> instead of prompting me for which editor I want to use, it jumps me
> directly into vi.  My manual isn't terribly clear on this.

Setup the environment variable (as man pages says):

     EDITOR (~)
             The name of your editor, if VISUAL is undefined.

             Default: whatever your news  administrator  compiled
             in, usually vi.

That should work.

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From: peta@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Peter Whaite)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Choosing a newsreader
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:31:10 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

In article <BzBEnF.CM0@liverpool.ac.uk> qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) writes:
>Tim Pierce (twpierce@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
>: In article <1992Dec12.234714.13397@netcom.com> cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton) writes:
>
>: >The one caveat on accepting my advice is that I have not tried trn.  If
>: >you can get someone who's tried both tin and trn, they could give you a
>: >comparison of the two.  I've gathered from discussions, though, that the
>: >trn interface is more complex.
>
>: Somewhat, but IMHO not very much.  It's less screen-oriented than
>: either tin or ANU News, and practically a piece of cake for rn users.
>: Trn supplies more complete threading than the other threaded
>: newsreaders I've used (tin, GNUS, nn), which can be a nice advantage
>: at times.
>Probably the fastest way to read news....IMHO :-) 

Especially on a 2400 baud modem.  Trn (well it's probably rn) seems well
optimized at low baud rates.  The default tin configuration is abysmal in this
respect and IMHO unusable.  I must admit though I haven't tried turning on the
"slow_speed_terminal" variable.  Why isn't that done automatically?
From: zombie@EBay.Sun.COM (zombie)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: trn source?
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:30:54 GMT
Reply-To: zombie@EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: redeye.ebay.sun.com


Hello,

  Where can I get the source for TRN?  This is probably in the FAQ, but it 
must have expired off this site and I don't want to wait.  

Thanks,
Erik

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From: epeterso@encore.com (Eric Peterson)
Subject: Re: Distribution of post in tin
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:01:21 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

D. Michael Basinger (dbasinge@ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:

| Is there a better way to control the distribution of posts in tin
| than setenv DISTRIBUTION xxx. I post to some groups locally, some
| in the usa, and some world-wide. I hope Iain plans to add better
| distribution functionality in future version.

You can work around the fact that TIN doesn't ask you for a distribution
by adding a Distribution: header when you edit your message.  The message
you're now reading had its Distribution: line added in just that manner.

Eric
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2480 news.software.nn:1651 news.software.b:3532
From: langfod@leela.CS.ORST.EDU (David Langford)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.nn,news.software.b
Subject: trn/nn compile w/ inn?
Keywords: inn nntp trn nn
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:11:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1gm38uINNsb0
Distribution: world
Organization: OSU CS Outreach Services, Corvallis, Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: leela.cs.orst.edu

Has anyone compiled TRN to use the NNTP library from the INN package?
The configure script for TRN wants to know where the standard NNTP sources
are (which, of course, are not the same as with INN).
(I have not tried NN yet but if anyone knows of a problem- 
 do you know a solution)

Thank you,
-David Langford
langfod@leela.cs.orst.edu

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.software.nntp
From: iann@storesys.coles.oz.au (Ian Nicholls)
Subject: Re: Getting newsgroup descriptions via NNTP (was Re: .newsrc editors, FAQ wanted)
Organization: Coles Supermarkets
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:20:45 GMT

Iain.Lea@anl433.uucp writes:

>Bill Fenner (fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu) wrote:
>:
>: The ANU/NEWS NNTP server has "XGTITLE [group]" - return the description from
>: the "newsgroups" file for the current group, or the specified group.  If
>: anyone is going to implement this for any other NNTP platforms, it might be
>: a good idea to use XGTITLE for compatibility with existing implementations.

>The NNTP 1.5.11 server already supports this with the LIST NEWSGROUPS command.

But it returns the whole newsgroups file, which on our machine is 200k. 
Nn takes up to 40 seconds to get this (at our site) during which time nn
seems to have hung.  The XGTITLE would return only the line one is
interested in, and it would do so much quicker.
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From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: tin flame
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:16:28 GMT
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Jurgen Botz (jbotz@mtholyoke.edu) wrote:
: In article <Bz8oGr.CC@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
 
: Not only is it entirely unreasonable for me to change major keyboard
: commands in the middle of a semester when I've got a couple of hundred
: users, but furthermore I don't like the changes one bit because they
: break the minimal consistency with rn/trn that existed... something
: that's important to me personally and a subset of my users who use
: both newsreaders.

This thread is coming to resemble a survey, so I'll cast my vote on
Jurgen's side:

While I use the <reply with quotation> command more than the <reply new>
command, and it takes a few milliseconds less to type "r" than to press
the shift key and type "R", this is more than offset by the need to pause
and ask myself, "Am I in elm or tin, (and which release of tin)?"  So I
urge consistency with existing tools.

Making the commands configurable (as others in this thread have suggested)
only aggravates the problem: the mental exercise becomes, "Am I in elm or
tin (and which release of tin, and how might the local Sysop have configured
tin)?"

Even if the command language is totally end-user configurable, the author
should pause and imagine getting a Bug report which begins: "I have 
configured tin by swapping upper case and lower case commands, and making
each command the rot13 of its default value.  The following
happens when I press the 'X' key: ... "  :-) 

Please don't to this to your users and yourself!  Add valuable new function
rather than gratuitous flexibility,

(just MHO concerning a generally excellent tool,)
gil
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us (David Hwang)
Subject: IBM PC News Software
Reply-To: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us
Organization: D.J. Services
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 12:18:14 GMT

I have been running a Unix System V R3.2 system for the last couple
of years on an IBM clone 486/25.  Things are well, but I have been
toying with the idea of junking the Unix and converting the machine
back to a DOS/Windows system.  

My question is whether there is anyone who can give me advice about
any way(s) that I can continue to receive news/mail as I currently
do through UUCP under DOS.  I would much prefer the system to run
in the background (perhaps under Windows or OS/2?) if possible.

Thanks,
David

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,gnu.emacs.gnus
From: jsparkes@bcars68a.bnr.ca (Jeff Sparkes)
Subject: Re: Threaded News Readers
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:36:37 GMT

In article <CKD.92Dec11165349@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>JC> == John Chandler [Contractor] <johnch@pongo.sun.com>
>
> JC> Why does it take so long to thread a few hundred articles?  No one
> JC> needs to drink that much coffee!  Why can trn do it so much faster?
> JC> Does anyone understand the two algorithms well enough to comment on
> JC> why one is so much faster than the other and what it would take to
> JC> improve gnus' performance?
>
>The main reason trn is faster is because it does it when you're not
>looking (via mthreads).
>
>If someone (probably with more elisp than I :) were to add support for
>the "nov" database to GNUS, it would speed up threading quite a bit.
>(Heck, even adding XHDR would help.)

actually, using XHDR doesn't help much.  I have done it, and the speedup was
in the 10-15% range.  The bottleneck is the speed at which the server can
retrieve all the articles.

I tried hack support for mthreads, but got stuck in dates.  The mthreads
database stores them as integers, which are too large to manipulate in emacs
lisp.

The nnspool patches for nov were posted to gnu.emacs.sources a while ago.
Unfortunately, they don't work over NNTP.  I've patched my nntp server to
retrieve them, but don't have enough disk space to try it out yet.  Also, I
noticed that nov database doesn't store Xrefs, which is a nuisance.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: dbasinge@ucs.indiana.edu (D. Michael Basinger)
Subject: Distribution of post in tin
Keywords: distribution
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:43:39 GMT

Is there a better way to control the distribution of posts in tin
than setenv DISTRIBUTION xxx. I post to some groups locally, some
in the usa, and some world-wide. I hope Iain plans to add better
distribution functionality in future version. Other than that,
I think is a very well done program. 

Mike 

ps: sorry if this got posted twice, I had some posting problems 
the first time
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From: qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: patching nntp with tin 1.18?
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:20:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Liverpool
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Please could those who have patched nntp 1.5.11 with the tin 1.18 patches
let me know if they had any problems. On SunOS 4.1.2, timer.c would not
compile using the tin 1.16 patches. Now patch will not patch :-( at 1.18.

My version of patch gives...
$Header: patch.c,v 2.0.1.6 88/06/22 20:46:39 lwall Locked $
Patch level: 12

Thanks for any help.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Writing reader from scratch
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:11:00 GMT

Suppose I wanted to write a news reader from scratch, one
that would read articles from a server. Is there any basic
document that specifies the Usenet database and how to
extract data from it via server?  Right now it looks like the
only way for me to learn that stuff is to study a simple
news reader such as rn.
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: New Unix news readers
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:23:56 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Is there any way to run different news reader software on a unix machine?
My school is using one called "nn" by Kim F. Storm 1991, I really don't like
this reader and was wondering if there are any others (I'm sure there are)
and if I could use them or do I have to have the system administrators install
the new software?
- Thanks in advance
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Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2486 gnu.emacs.gnus:1409
From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,gnu.emacs.gnus
Subject: Re: Threaded News Readers
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:42:11 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
	<BynGnA.2L2.2@cs.cmu.edu> <Byo9Kn.Mn3@wang.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: fitz@wang.com's message of 3 Dec 92 07:17:11 GMT

> I think threads should be maintained across subject changes.
> Now that I know that gnus breaks threads . . .

=\= Whoa!  I don't know why nobody's said this yet, but GNUS
*does* maintain threads across subject changes.  All you have
to do is add this to your .emacs:

	(setq gnus-thread-ignore-subject t)

=\= When discussing any Emacs package, you've got to remember
that almost everything is configurable.  Check the on-line
documentation before saying what a package does or doesn't do.
    <_Jym_>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,comp.sources.d
From: alex@animal.Bell.CA (Alex Laney)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tin v1.1 PL8 newsreader (PATCH) posted to alt.sources
Followup-To: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,comp.sources.d
Organization: Bell Canada, Ottawa, Ontario
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:43:12 GMT

: >>Iain Lea (Iain.Lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net) wrote:
: >>> I have posted TIN v1.1 PL8 to alt.sources in a 6 part PATCH. 

I have applied this patch, and it appears to work ok on my system
(SunOS 4.1.1, Sparc2). BUT, (and this is true of the last two versions),
I have to do the final linking with 'cc', not 'ld.' Do others of this config.
find this to be true?

Anyway, to fix this, I add LD=$(CC) to the make bsd line. From here, I can't
email Iain. If you're listening Iain, is it possible to put this in?
Otherwise it just core dumps trying to load the 'C' shared library. It
should be okay on all bsd-derived systems.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: Re: sorting newsgroups in RN
Reply-To: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Organization: Trent University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:39:07 GMT


In article <1goiseINNov4@pacific.cs.ubc.ca>, tedc@cs.ubc.ca (Ted Chen) writes:
>Path: blaze.trentu.ca!torn!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!destroyer!cs.ubc.ca!pacific.cs.ubc.ca!not-for-mail
>From: tedc@cs.ubc.ca (Ted Chen)
>Newsgroups: news.software.readers
>Subject: sorting newsgroups in RN
>Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:50:22 -0800
>Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
>Lines: 8
>Distribution: world
>Message-ID: <1goiseINNov4@pacific.cs.ubc.ca>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cs.ubc.ca
>
>I use RN to read news and would like to find a way to automatically sort
>the groups in alphabetical order.  Please email to
>
>tedc@ee.ubc.ca
>
>
>Thanks very much.
>
>

Try sorting you .newsrc file in the order you'd like.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: dbasinge@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Basinger)
Subject: Re: Distribution of post in tin
Organization: Indiana University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:49:56 GMT

The change that my sys admin came up with that seems to work is add
this to the post.c

 if (*my_distribution) {
                fprintf (fp, "Distribution: %s\n", my_distribution);
                start_line_offset++;
        } else
                fprintf(fp,"Distribution: \n");

What I would like to see in future version is for the sysadmin to be
able to set the default distribution. Then have a file that the
sysadmin could make certain groups have certain defaults

ie
ucs.system::local
in.*::in
clari.*::usa

What do people think of this idea,
Mike

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung)
Subject: Re: Various Filtering via TRN -- possible? how?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:08:05 GMT

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
[a couple of useful suggestions to do what I want]
>
>In any case, I'd recommend against doing this at all.  This is the
>sort of thing that keeps you on your toes on Usenet, which is always a
>useful skill to have.

An excellent point.  Hadn't thought about it at all ... ironically, just
a few moments ago I was reading comp.risks about how the design of a
computer system influences behavior.  E.g. cops forced to log parking
tickets might spend less time doing unloggable things like checking
suspicious broken windows.  Here I mihgt unexpectedly increase my
risk of being caught in some kind of news software trap!

Quite the opposite of what I intended ....

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From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Subject: Re: NNTP stuff
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:30:08 GMT
Distribution: usa

Obtain a copy of RFC977, NNTP.  It documents all the underlying transport
commands.  It should answer your questions.
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: adrian@rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk (Adrian Hall)
Subject: Re: looking for newsreader software
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:30:48 GMT

au141@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Amber M. Spillers) writes:
> 
>    I have recently installed a 386BSD system and I am trying to get a
> few newsreaders for it up.  NN crases horribly so until I get down and
> dirty with debugging that will not do, RN works fine and I plan to go
> and get the emacs based newsreader soon. 

trn, tass, (and soon tin - as soon as we test news posting) are available
via anonymous ftp, ready patched for NNTP news posting from 
rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk

Adrian