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From: resasco-diana@CS.YALE.EDU (Diana Resasco)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: You know you're really parents when...
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:41:16 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT


The toothpaste tastes funny one morning, because you
are brushing with Dessitin :-{
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 15:45:26 EDT
From: <CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Gymboree clothes

My son got a few outfits from Gymboree as baby presents.  We like the style
and color of them, but I haven't seen them locally and they must be one of
the few mail order catalogs that haven't found my name yet.  Does anyone
know if they can be bought through the mail and how I can get a catalog?
Also, does anyone have any experience with these clothes?  How do they
compare to others?  My guess (given who they came from) is that they are
fairly expensive, but well-made.
Thanks for your help.
Chris Himes, CLH7@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
From: zippy@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (steven.s.albert)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: [33 years] Things they say
Keywords: parents can be funny too
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:31:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

Last weekend was "Mom's Night Out" for the members of the playgroup.
Mary was sitting next to the mother of a 21 month old boy.  She commented
to Mary that she was just Joey's slave.  Mary's response?  "Why do you
think they call little boys 'master'?"  Well, I thought it was funny!

	Steve Albert ('Master' Billy's dad [22.5 months])
	ssa@usl.com
From: steve@Advansoft.COM (Steve Savitzky)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Tumbling 23 mo old??
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:26:37 GMT
Organization: Advansoft Research Corp, Santa Clara, CA

Our kid was slow to walk (having discovered that scooting on her
bottom kept her hands free, unlike crawling), and we put her in a
toddler gym class.  She had a blast, and eventually learned to walk
like everybody else.  Yes, they do flips and so on; it's perfectly
safe. 
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From: sg@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM (Susanne Gilliam)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Mysterious headaches
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:30:28 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1992Apr7.153301.22284@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> jch@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (jeffrey.c.halle) writes:
>
>One other possibility is Lyme Disease.  Persistent headaches is one symptom.
>Others include achey joints, slight fever for several days, and the sure
>sign (but usually unnoticed) bullseye rash.  You live somewhat outside the
>high risk area, but it still is a possibility.  Why not get the blood tests?
>It's only a little discomfort for a few seconds, and could save much grief
>later.  Be sure to get both tests (I don't recall their names, but there are
>two they can do).  And don't let your periatrician talk you out of it.

  Also remember that only a certain percentage of people ever show the rash
and that early in the course of the illness, the blood tests may be very
unreliable.  I live in a high risk area,  and a lot of the doctors around
here seem to skip the blood tests unless they are dealing with an 
advanced case.  If you have been in a tick area, and are showing Lyme-like
symptoms with no other obvious explanation, they simply treat it as
Lymes, because many of the blood tests were coming back negative early on,
and only came back positive later on, when the disease is a little harder
to treat.  
  I have no idea whether Lymes is really a very likely cause of such
unexplained headaches, but I didn't want anyone to dismiss it just because
they didn't see the characteristic rash.
 
					Susanne Gilliam
 
P.S. I had it, and didn't have the rash.  My doctor didn't do the tests,
but then I'd found the embedded deer tick, and remembered it when I
developed the symptoms.  So even without the rash I was alerted to the
possibility, and indeed, my symptoms disappeared with a course of
antibiotics.  Of course, there is the chance that it wasn't Lymes and
I didn't need the antibiotics, but I wasn't willing to take the risk
of letting it develop further.
Newsgroups: misc.kids,misc.education
From: mackay@front-street.Stanford.EDU (David Mackay)
Subject: Re: Minors right of access to contraceptives?
Reply-To: mackay@front-street.Stanford.EDU (David Mackay)
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: su
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 09:46:52 GMT

>In article <2531@keele.keele.ac.uk>, csz55@seq1.keele.ac.uk
(Christopher >Wrigley) writes:

>|> I have a question which I believe is worthy of debate. Again it concerns
|> both parents and their children in an age where teenage pregnancy is no
|> longer our primary worry.
|> 
|> The question is: Should minors have the same right of access to
|> contraceptives as adults and should parents be notified if
|> contraceptives are provided to their minor children?

>They don't hand out free condoms at work.  Why free condoms at school?

|>Shouldn't we simply allow kids to buy condoms at the store, like
|>adults?

  Adolescents already have the same access to condoms as adults.  They
are sold over the counter, no prescription required, no age limit.  A
seven year old can walk in the store pick it off the shelf carry to the
cash register pay for them, take them home and make water balloons  If
Adolescents seem to be able to obtain restricted items like cigarettes
and beer, why can't they buy unrestricted items like condoms?

Minors already have access to condoms, spermicides, sponges.  They are
all sold over the counter to anyone with money.  Pills, and diaphragms
require a prescription from a doctor, and doctor's cost a lot more than
condoms.  Pills and diaphragms are certainly not as available as the
other forms as contraceptives.  

Someone previously posted a comment comparing misuse of pencils and
misuse of condems.  The schools I went to did not hand out pencils.  You
brought your own pencil or got one from a friend.  The school wasn't
going to supply you with a pencil.

As for sex education, another person already posted comments about myths
adolescents believe (it can not happen to me, or you can not get
pregnant the first time . . .)  Is passing out free condoms going to
improve this.  Why not require that in order to pass sixth grade and
again in either seventh or eigth grade health class (it is taught one of
those two years in California, I forget which) require the kids to pass
a test with 100 per cent of the answers correct.  In fact give the test
and answer sheet on the first day of school and require they pass the
test before the end of the school year.  The test can be filled with all
the silly myths adolescents beleive with the correct response. 
Adolescents will still be adolescents regardless.

In school districts that can not afford to supply students with books
and pencils, how can they supply students with condems?  Or we don't
care if Johnny can write just so long as he knows how to use a condom?

The answer depends on what think a school is supposed to accomplish.  If
there is a problem with schools in the United States it is we no longer
agree on their purpose.  Until we decide what we expect from schools
they will never deliver it. (Even if we do decide there is no guarentee
they will deliver it, but at least we will know what we were trying for).
From: mary@anasaz.UUCP (Mary Curtis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Seeking natural fiber maternity clothes
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:52:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Anasazi Inc., Phoenix AZ

> In article <1992Apr13.190644.20943@colorado.edu> mwalker@taimyr (Marilyn Walker) writes:
> >I am looking for a catalog that carries moderately priced, attractive, 
> >maternity clothes, primarily made of natural fibers.  I became very 
> >discouraged after looking through store racks of mostly polyester 
> >blends with very little selection.  In a mid-size city we have only a 

I became discouraged when looking at the prices, quality and style of
maternity clothes.  If the style was something I'd wear to the office it
was mostly $$$.  How often do we buy a whole new wardrobe at once as with
maternity needs?  Most of us add a few new items (at most) each season.

Well, I was lucky and my wonderful mother was literally begging to sew for
me.  There are some nice patterns available and you can pick your own fabric
needs - cotton or whatever in dressy or casual.

I understand that not everyone sews, I personally hate it and don't think I
could find the time even if I did enjoy sewing.  But if you do sew, or know
someone who sews (preferably someone to do it gratis - family member of close
friend, but you can also use a professional seamstress) you can have some nice
maternity clothes for the money. 

An added bonus is that you'll never see anyone else in your exact choice of
fabric and pattern (when you're mentally feeling especially large and see
someone else that is not as far along or that carries the baby differently in 
the same exact outfit it can be discouraging).

Mary Curtis (mary@ansaz.com)
mother to Michael - 13 months
From: maw2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHELE A. WHITE)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: FORMULA ===> WHOLE MILK
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:12:21 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University



What is the best age to switch from formula to whole milk?  Drug companies say
one year, some of the books I have read say 6 months.  The doctor says formula
provides the iron babies need for the first year and that it will prevent
anemia, but I should do what I feel comfortable doing...

My son is 7 months old and weighs about 19 lbs/26".  He eats cereal and 1/2 jar of
of fruit for breakfast, 1 jar of dinner and 1/2 jar of fruit for lunch and 1 jar
of dinner, 1/2 veg and 1/2 fruit for supper.  He is drinking about 24-28
ounces of formula a day.  Is it safe to start switching him now?  Should I mix
half formula and half milk before going to all milk?  Is the amount of food he
is eating normal for a baby this size?

Any advice is appreciated.
-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------
Michele A. White - 758-3995
User Consultant - Lehigh University Computing Center
maw2@ns.cc.lehigh.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lcp@uhifa.ifa.hawaii.edu (Lisa Paton)
Subject: Re: "Whole Language" teaching concept
Reply-To: lcp@uhifa.ifa.hawaii.edu (Lisa Paton)
Organization: Institute For Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:00:38 GMT


In article <1992Apr16.125837.9715@gvl.unisys.com>, paula@prc.unisys.com
(Paula Matuszek) writes:
> There are two general approaches to teaching reading:  phonics and 
> look-say/whole word.
> [much good info deleted]

This is a very interesting discussion for me, because I am a product of both
systems applied at different times in my life.  My Grandmother, who was a
grade school teacher, came to live with us when I was 4 or 5 years old.  At the
time, I was very interested in reading, so I sat on her lap and she taught me
to read.  She used the whole-word method that she had used when she was a
teacher.  I learned to read pretty well that way and did fine until I entered
first grade.  There I was exposed to a phonics zealot.  I misunderstood the
use of phonics and thought that EVERY word must be sounded out, whether I
knew it or not.  This put me back a long way in my reading skills, and I didn't
fully recover until early Junior High.

Now most of the kids in my class learned to read using phonics and had no
further problems with it.  I don't know if I had diffeculties because I had
learned a different method, or because I was naturally inclined toward whole-
word reading.  I know as an adult I can remember and understand anything I
can visualize.  In fact I go so far as to visualize a telephone number in order
to remember it.

I guess I'd like to echo the idea that either method is fine so long as the
teachers are flexible and understand that different students learn in different
ways.  I think I'd like to see a combined approach in any school my daughter 
attends.

Lisa
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From: hechtel@meteor.wisc.edu (Leslie Hechtel)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnancy Books
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:41:51 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science

In article <1992Apr15.124950.7695@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> watson@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.k.watson) writes:
>In article <18145@oasys.dt.navy.mil> cooper@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lynette Cooper) writes:
>>>Tracy, don't despair.  There's plenty of time to read with a new baby;
>>>you just read while you nurse.  I went through hundreds of books in
>>>Will's first year.
>>>
>>Don't count on it.  Breastfeeding was a two handed operation for me!
>
>Hmmm.  Well.  Presuming you could somehow hold onto the baby with just
>one hand, or prop it up on pillows, how would you hold the book and
>turn the pages with just the one the other hand?  Someone please give 
>the details of this reading while breastfeeding technique. It sounds 
>mighty handy to me.

[based on my experience in reading with a 10-lb cat asleep across my
upper arms and chest]

Just hold the book by the spine, at the bottom of the book, with the
palm of your hand facing you, the pinky over one page, the thumb over
the other, and the 3 remaining fingers supporting the weight on the
spine.  Page-turning depends on finger length, book weight, dexterity,
etc.; sometimes you just have to lay the book down and turn 'blind'.
[my biggest problems are when the cat a) stands on my breasts/ribs
to stretch/think/turn around, and b) decides that lying on the wrist
holding the book would be a good idea][what's my other hand doing?
feeding me, many times!]

Leslie


-- 
Leslie M. Hechtel
Dept. of Meteorology
1225 W. Dayton St.
Madison  WI  53706            Internet:hechtel@meteor.wisc.edu
From: kdavis@cipc1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kris Davis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: New Member to Misc.Kids correction
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:20:04 GMT
Reply-To: kdavis@cipc1.UUCP (Kris Davis)
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Credit Corp. - Dayton, OH

Sorry for the mispost...

New members Kris & Joe Davis

Joseph Ryan Davis (Ryan)  DOB  September 20, 1982

and

Brandon James Bauman  DOB  February 29, 1988 (not 1992!!)

Joe and I have been married for a year and a half and I'm interested
in hearing other people's experiences with blending families. (Things
have calmed down quite a bit but we still have a few bugs to work out...
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: staffan@ca.serum.kodak.com (Kenneth Staffan (x37507))
Subject: Re: Publishing children's books 
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:35:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.193436.14056@linus.mitre.org> woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside) writes:
>
>  Does anyone know what is involved to get a children's book published?
>  How do you go about contacting publishers, etc?

Jim,

You might want to go to the library and find a book called something like
"The Writer's Marketplace".  It's published yearly (I think), and maybe someone
else can help with a more accurate citation.

If you don't have any luck through publisher channels, and this is a labor
of love, you might consider publishing and marketing it yourself.  Talk to
local print shops/publishers about rates, volume, etc., and local bookstores
about consignment, etc.  If it turns out that your book(s) catch on, you
could leverage the money back into another printing/future books, and/or
recontacting publishers with work(s) already under your belt.

Good luck!

Ken
From: rmitchel@BBN.COM (Rob Mitchell)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: New Fathers social group in Mass?
Date: 9 Apr 1992 12:58:23 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rmitchel@BBN.COM (Rob Mitchell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

    Looking for social-type group for new (or used :) fathers
    in the south shore Massachusetts area.

    Do you know of any?  I'm gonna try contacting town hall, too,
    but I thought I check out BBoard.

    TIA!


Rob Mitchell                  (rmitchel@bbn.com)                  617-873-4041
Macintosh and Unix Software Engineer
These opinions are mine and mine only.
From: vossron@Apple.COM (Ronald N. Voss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Cute things they say (this time the doctor)
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:21:12 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

My wife took our five-year-old in for her pre-kindergarten checkup.

There's a point (you all know it) at which the doctor taps the
knees with the little rubber hammer.

Mother:  "What does that tell you?"

Doctor:  "Nothing, really.  It's just tradition."

Ron

-- 
Ron Voss          Apple Computer         I speak only for myself.
From: cooper@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lynette Cooper)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Pregnancy Books
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:33:53 GMT
Reply-To: cooper@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lynette Cooper)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

>Tracy, don't despair.  There's plenty of time to read with a new baby;
>you just read while you nurse.  I went through hundreds of books in
>Will's first year.
>
>-- Anne Paulson
>annep@momenta.com


Don't count on it.  Breastfeeding was a two handed operation for me!

				       Lynn Cooper
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: sue@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Sue McPherson)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Breast-feeding &/or Colds
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:07:57 GMT
Organization: Software Contracts Group, University of Melbourne, Australia

Hi, I've been reading misc.kids since a few months before Sarah was born
(she is now 7 months old) and I have a comment and a question.

COMMENT - I found it breasfeeding an advantage when dealing with a sick baby.

Sarah has recently had a cold which brought on an ear infection and then a
minor bout of gastroenteritis and these have made me realise one of the 
advantages in breastfeeding. I had started weaning her (breastfeed
morning & night, 2 bottles during the day) and although I had never previously
had a problem giving her a bottle, when she was sick she would fight the bottle,
it was a struggle to get her to take the fluids and she didn't really relax
while drinking. By contrast, when I breastfed her she would relax and snuggle
in to me and then drop off to sleep.

QUESTION - Breastfeeding is supposed to provide some protection against
infection, but Sarah has had a cold, runny nose, cough on and off for the 
last 3 months. Is there anything I can do about this?

I'm working part time and up until recently Sarah was getting EBM while she
was in care, although now she gets formula, but she has had a cold which
has varied in severity but never really cleared up completely for the past
3 months. Except for the few times when it was making her cough (3 x 2 days)
it doesn't seem to bother her. I haven't had the cold, but it seems that
a day or so after Sarah gets worse, my husband comes down with a severe
head cold & cough (I think its because he is very busy at work and is a bit
run down). When Sarah first had a cough I went to the Doctor and he said it was
just phlegm (sp?) running down the back of her throat and not to worry.
A couple of weeks ago her temperature went up, she was lethargic & pulling her
ears. The Doctor said it was a secondary infection caused by the cold and 
antibiotics cleared it up - but she still has the cold.

The Doctor and the Infant Welfare Sister don't think a minor cold is worth
worrying about, but its been going on for so long that I am starting to be
concerened. Any suggestions?? - or I am just a worrisome first time parent?


Thanks

Sue McPherson
sue@ariel.its.unimelb.edu.au
From: major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Raising Satanic children
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:34:51 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: The Boeing Co., MMST, Seattle, Wa.


   Hmmmmmm.  Methinks that perhaps we have been 'spoofed' by the April Fool's
   Genie, whadayathink?


-- 
Mike Schmitt                   "Verify range to target.  One opinion Mr Vasily,
Boeing Defense & Space Group    and one opinion only, please.  And it's not my  
Seattle, WA                     employer's." 
major@@shuksan.boeing.com
From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, just that old grouch jj)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: The Satanic Purpose.
Keywords: Purpose.
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:34:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.22523
Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, just that old grouch jj)
Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals

In article <1992Apr8.152043.21643@panix.com> rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding) writes:


>A Satanist must appease no god but himself.
>A Satanist's only purpose is to live his/her life as he/she
>sees fit.

>A Satanist chooses to doubt, rather than believe.

I find this definition of Satanism completely specious.

By this definition, which seems preposterously Christian to me,
Athiests, Agnostics, Skeptics, and many other individuals
and groups who choose to answer to an ethical code that does
not require belief in a Deity are "Satanists".

This postively reeks of the attempt a few years ago by
a bunch of senators (including Bill Bradley, my local least-favorite
senator) passed a bill outlawing religious exemptions for
'Wiccans and other Satanists'.

It seems to me that this definition is yet another definition
that is intended to label all not YHWH worshipers as "Satanists".
Need I point out the utter absurdity of calling Pagans, who
doen't even BELIEVE in an advocate of ultimate evil, "Satanists".

Satanists worship Satan, yes?
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@notavax.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Need gate advice
Keywords: gate
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:03:47 GMT

In article <1966@shuksan.boeing.com> mikey@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Fields) writes:
>> For a good mail order source try Safer Baby Company. They have an 800 number,
>> so you can get the number from 800 information (1-800-555-1212). I had a gate
>> that I bought locally, but is also available thru them. It is wood and has
>> vertical slats. On each side of the door frame you connect two eyebolts. Then
>> there are three hooks (2 on one side, one on the other) that hook into the
>> eyebolts. Then instead of a hook for the forth eyebolt there is a little clamp
>> thingy that keeps the whol thing from being taken off too easily. 
> ^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> I am not good at describing this sort of thing. 
>> 
>Thingy????  Let me guess - you don't write tech. documentation for a living :-)
>

No, but I seem to read alot of them, and thingy is a perfectly good word, thank
you very much.

But I am glad you posted, because I really botched up the name of the catalogue.
It is The Perectly Safe Company. The number is 1-800-837-kids. The gates cost 
$19.95 for the 27"-48" model and 39.95 for the 52"-96" one.

The also sell these bumper bracket thingys (;-)) that keep pressure gates in
place.

>Anybody with any experience at all knows it is a 'whatchamacallit'!!!

HA! A lot you know!

Laura Floom