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From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Subject: Re: O mi ai
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:22:29 GMT

pascal@apd.cpg.sony.co.jp (Pascal Goguey) writes:
: 
:         About the message of Mr Gerard Vignes, Mr Nobuyasu KANEKAWA
: wrote : "As you know, a man  should love woman as  a human being..."
: I don't understand why Mr KANEKAWA is surprised by a practice which
: is so common in Japan : O mi ai.

* begin (I am kidding)

Because ...

umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daniel Saltel) writes:
: Somebody has sent offensive messages using my user-id.
: I am sorry that this has happened.
: This has been very upsetting.

And I wirte:
: I hope your email address is not thieved by someone else.

    I just thought someone else abused his email adress.  :-)

    I think he is just kidding in 99%, but he is seriously expecting
any reply from nice women in 1%.  :-)

Anyway it was a kind of disaster for Mr. Daniel Saltel.
The "somebody" should add "the following program is a paid program.
umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca is not responsible..." in his messages.

* end (I am kidding)

* begin (I am serious)

:         In that case, the only difference with o mi ai is that
: Mr Vignes arranges himself the o mi ai with a person fitting his
: description. Obviously, Mr KANEKAWA does not agree with that kind
: of practice. Neither do I. But if Mr Vignes and a girl reading this
: newsgroup do agree, why not ? Would there have had so much comments
: if he was looking for a pen friend ?

I agree.
A friend of mine got married thru email correspondence.  And I heard
several the same cases, indeed.  But email ... sounds less romantic. :-)

* end (I am serious)

* begin (I am definitely serious)

:         Do I understand that o mi ai does not belong to the
: "goodness of Japanese culture" ?

I think o mi ai is not bad at all.

In addition, there is a word "Goudou-Kompa", a party jointly held
by women's group and men's group. It is a sort of o mi ai party,
I guess.  And it is quite popular among university students and
young salaried men.  Of course, I enjoyed a lot.

In Japanese sense,
NORMAL parties : with women or men only, mono-sexual,	
Goudou-Kompa   : mixed parties, "ordinal" parties in American sense.

* end (I am difinetely serious)

* begin (I am kidding)

I saw personal ads such as "SWM seeks ..." in "Recycler" a recycling 
magazine.

:               Obviously, Mr KANEKAWA does not agree with that kind
: of practice. 

Yes.
Do they admit that they are USED and try to recycle themselves ?

* end (I am kidding)

Nobuyasu KANEKAWA
From: pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Attractive, Wealthy Japanese Woman Sought
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:10:34 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette

In article <1992Sep11.072158.8307@cs.ucla.edu> kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa) writes:
>
>I have never seen such kind of wonderful creatures in Japan.  
>Where did you see ?

	On "Northern Exposure" perhaps?

>I think they must be endangered species and need your protection.

	Either that, or I need a psychiatrist :-)

							Gerard (Me!)

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pssres12@ucs.usl.edu	Gerard Vignes, USL PO Box 42709, Lafayette LA 70504 USA
From: lindaa@portent.Berkeley.EDU (Linda Absher)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mr. Baseball
Date: 10 Sep 1992 23:22:15 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: portent.berkeley.edu

Re: Writing famous novel comment:


I'm trying, I'm trying!!  Know any good non-racist plots that will wow them?


-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Subject: Re: Attractive, Wealthy Japanese Woman Sought
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 22:16:01 GMT

pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:
: 			     WANTED
: 
: 	Attractive,  independently  wealthy  Japanese woman
: 	for financial support and romance.    I am 35 years
: 	old, male heterosexual,   seeking companionship and
: 	financial support.  If you are interested and would
: 	like  to  learn  more  about  me,  please write to:
: 	Gerard Vignes,   USL PO Box 42709,   Lafayette,  LA
: 	70504 USA.   Please send picture.
: 
: 						Gerard

I am sorry that I am not a Japanese woman.

As you know, a man should love woman as a human being not as
a Japanese nor as a p...(beep). And all the women would like
to be loved as a human being.

If Japanese women read your article, they will have an impression
that you have whoever-Japanese-woman-is-OK way of thinking.
To deny this impression, it better to add why you need 
Japanese woman. 

I agree that we men tend to feel exotic attraction with "foreign"
women.  But it is not real women's attraction. It is something like 
attraction of rare animals.

I hope your email address is not thieved by someone else.

Nobuyasu KANEKAWA
From: tom@dingo.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese immigration
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:03:23 GMT
Reply-To: tom@dingo.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Organization: imagen

In article <1992Sep10.145042.3570@acuson.com>, miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:
|> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
|> 
|> > in more than 40 passes through Narita, I've only been asked to open a bag once,
|> >when I had a pair of scissors in my briefcase going through the security
|> >gate on departure. Narita is certainly not ideal, and is often crowded,
|> 
|> 	You dress better than I do. ;)
|> 
|> 	I usually figure it is better to dress casually when taking
|> 	long flights, but when I did this on a trip to Japan, the
|> 	official looked me over, asked me what city I came from and
|> 	when I said San Francisco, he had me open _everything_ and
|> 	he closely went through everything but my tooth paste.  Ever
|> 	since, I dress _very_ well, say I'm from some city outside
|> 	San Francisco, and have had no trouble.
|> 
|> 	- Michael Goldman
|> 
|> -- 
|> "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have
|> exhausted all other alternatives." - Abba Eban
|> 	Disclaimer:  All views are solely my own & not the views of Acuson.
|> 	<sun!sono!miklg>  or  [miklg@acuson.com]

   I really recommend going through Narita just after the start of 
Golden Week; the lines were really short, no hastles and everyone
in Tokyo is away. 

tjl    tom@dingo.imagen.com
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From: kth40861@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kirby Herazy )
Subject: Looking for a Friend at Senshu University
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:49:36 GMT

I would appreciate it if anyone who attends Senshu University could please
e-mail me.


Thank you,


Kirby



Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Re: Japanese immigration
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:13:26 GMT

In article <HARKCOM.92Sep11100656@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:

                        [deleted]
>
> =}(and what exactly the hell does "catch-22" mean, anyway? :-)
>
>   An excellent book (which I haven't read since high school).  If my
>memory isn't pickled yet, then the author is Kurt Vonnegut.  It is an
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        it is... :)      the author is J. Heller (if mine isn't...
>excellent book and I recommend it to anyone who likes mind games.
 ^^^^^^^^^
 it is, again (i.e., great)

Tony
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From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Foreigner in Japan.
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:36:23 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

I believe that part of this is due to what I call the monolingual mentality.
People who know and speak only one language think only in terms of Native and
Other, or foreign. My Japanese friends here in the States always wonder why
people speak to them in Spanish. It is because, in my opinion, that is most
Californians' "foreign" language. Likewise, English is the "foreign" language
for most Japanese. Thus when they see "foreign" they speak "foreign" with
little thought at all about what they are doing.

Because Europeans are far more likely to have been exposed to several languages
from a very early age and because contact with people from other countries is
far more common, they are far more adept at dealing with the situation.

All of this is only my own speculation but it holds up under my limited
experience.

smittie
 
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From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Narita airport throughput
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:31:34 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: thomas@aic.co.jp's message of 12 Sep 92 05:34:28 GMT

In article <THOMAS.92Sep12143428@bass.aic.co.jp> thomas@aic.co.jp
   (Thomas Johannsen) writes:

 =}The reason for my question is a pretty tight  schedule which my travel
 =}agent draw up: I'll arrive at 20:40 (on a Sunday) and _have to_  get a
 =}bus in front of the airport building at 21:30. Otherwise I'll be stuck
 =}the night in Tokyo (loss  of time and  money :-(. Do  you think it  is
 =}possible to get through in less than 50  minutes?

   When in Narita isn't crowded, one can get through rather quickly.
I have made it through (gate to bus) in just over 30 minutes before.
When Narita is crowded then it's a hassle to get out and one must
usually wait a few busses before one can go.  I have had to wait
through 4 buses before...

   In your case, if the plane arrives at 20:40 then Narita shouldn't
be too crowded (even though it is Sunday) unless it is the end of a
Japanese holiday (3 day weekends included).  If you are lucky then
you can make it through in time to catch the bus (if there are any
seats left).  But 50 minutes is pushing it.  It would be very easy
to be late as there are so many things that could slow you down...
Changing your flight might be a good idea...

   If you don't make it, you could avoid staying in Tokyo by taking
a night bus (or train) to your destination.  After a long flight this
might not be an enjoyable alternative, but it is definitely the cheaper
alternative...
From: mgilpin@sequent.com (Mike Gilpin)
Subject: Japanese Language textbooks
Summary: Wanted: Good Japanese language textbook
Keywords: book Japan language
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 15:30:07 GMT


Hello all -
I was wondering if anyone has any opinions on good textbooks or book/tape
combinations for learning the Japanese language, both spoken and written.

I'm looking for something more than the basic phrasebooks that are found
in most bookstores.  Sources for learning about Japanese culture would
also be appreciated.

Since I don't frequently use the net, email response is preferred.

Thanks.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael K. Gilpin                     
NAO Technical Support Hotline         
Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
15450 S.W. Koll Parkway
Beaverton, OR 97006-6063
mgilpin@sequent.com
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Nippo-Disney
Date: 13 Sep 1992 22:38:31 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tempest.berkeley.edu

On the topic of cars: there's a REALLY good book out, called RIVETHEAD, by
Ben Hamper, published by Warner Books, about life as a General Motors
factory worker.  Unlike most sociology books, this is written from the
worker's perspective (the author is a worker himself).  A nonfiction
autobiography, it is set in Flint, Michigan.  Ben Hamper has also been 
columnist for several other publications concerning blue-collar topics.
I doubt there will be a Japanese translation of it anytime soon, since
the point of reading it is all in the texture of the language--it would be
absolutely spoiled by the typically beautified translation of English books
into Japanese.  But for those of you Japanese netters who want insight
into American blue-collar life/language/culture, this is a must.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: RACISM BY JAPANESE--CURRENT
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:31:54 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

I am working on a similar project. I have found that if you use a "common
knowledge" definition of racism you will be working with something too
ambiguous to be useful. I used Robert Miles' definitions. His book called
"Racism" is an excellent short, concise discussion on the concept of racism. I
found this necessary in order for me to continue. I hope this information helps
you. If you want just the definitions, email me and I'll send them along with
complete bibliographic info.

smittie
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: davev@bnr.ca (David Villeneuve)
Subject: Re: CALL OF THE QUR'AN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
Reply-To: davev@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:06:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.164932.2166@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, irfan@maxwell.ece.wisc.edu (Irfan Alan) writes:
|> THE CALL OF THE QUR'AN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK   
|> 
|> 
|> (Especially for Christians)
|> 
   .... lots and lots and (lots) of stuff deleted.  

   Gee, if this posting wasn't off topic for soc.culture.japan,
   and if it had contained Biblical quotes that were taken in context,
   I might reply.

   ... but it isn't, it didn't, and I won't.  :-)

   ... but if someone wanted to open a discussion on how church
   services are held within Japanese culture (outside of Tokyo),
   I'd be interested. 

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Dave Villeneuve, davev@bnr.ca   | Mail daemon wa canada ni arimasu. 
Bell-Northern Research, JAPAN   | Boku wa nippon ni imasu yo.
My opinions are my own, though please don't quote me on that.
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:17:28 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In <1992Sep12.220956.26964@usl.edu> pssres12@ucs.usl.edu (Vignes Gerard M) writes:

>	Neither America nor Europe
>	has any right to or any business in
>	pressuring Japan...

Or any other sovereign nation, for that matter (not to hear THEM talk, though).

>	Any economic aid from Nippon to the FSU
>	should depend exclusively on the outcome
>	of negotiations between the two countries,
>	and not on some presumed urgency or priority
>	of US or EC goals.

<clap clap> Amen. This would certainly be a first in foreign affairs: 
considering the nation(s) in question! >:(

>				Does either America or Europe,
>	before implementing policy in Asia, consult with Japan?
>	So then how can Japan be expected to subordinate
>	her most vital interests in the home region
>	simply to avoid inconvenience to the West?

Or, for that matter, does any nation ever consult with Japan about attitudes
and/or policies regarding JAPAN!? (going to their dinner table and throwing
up isn't quite what *I* had in mind, that's for sure.. I just can't WAIT
to see what Quayle does..)


>pssres12@ucs.usl.edu	Gerard Vignes, USL PO Box 42709, Lafayette LA 70504 USA

(I'm from Thibodeaux, Lafourche Parish myself.. :)
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Mythology Gods
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:30:41 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <3890@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>In article <1822@hsdndev.UUCP> rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275) writes:
>.....
>>      I add a few Gods from other myth.
>>       "Ebisu"
>>            God of Commerce
>.....
>
>  Daikoku-ten     God of food 
>  Bishamon-ten    God of (northern) security 
>  Benzai-ten      Goddess of music and entertainment
>  Fukurokuju      God of bookkeeping of our life span
>  Jurou-nin       God of longevity
>  Hotei           God of ? (What's in his huge bag anyway?)
   		   ^^^^^^^^^
		   They say he is a god of satisfaction and happiness.
		   He seems to be the only god in Shichi Fukujin, who is
		   a deified Chinese priest. 
			
		   In the bag may be a lot of presents nicely wrapped and...
		   oh, sorry, he is not Santa Claus.   ;->
	
[Yebisu beer stuff deleted]
>
>Michiaki Masuda

					Tetsuya Nishimura
From: hironobu@sra.co.jp (Hironobu Suzuki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?
Date: 5 Sep 92 10:49:29 GMT
	<SHIBUYA.92Sep2094235@chute.mailhost.bl.cad.slb.com>
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
In-reply-to: shibuya@mailhost.bl.cad.slb.com's message of 2 Sep 92 14:42:35 GMT


In article <SHIBUYA.92Sep2094235@chute.mailhost.bl.cad.slb.com> shibuya@mailhost.bl.cad.slb.com (Hiroto Shibuya) writes:
 |In article <1992Aug31.031359.12423@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery) writes:
 |
 |>
 |>   I really need a virgin Japanese, hightec cunt!!!!!!
 |>
 |
 |	  % finger umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca
 |	  [ccu.umanitoba.ca]
 |	  Login name: umsalte2                    In real life: Daniel Saltel
 |	  Directory: /home/student/umsalte2       Shell: /usr/local/etc/expsh
 |	  Last login Tue Sep  1 13:57 on ttyd17
 |	  Unread mail since Tue Sep  1 15:25:59 1992
 |	  No Plan.


I can't believe this information. Will you use your real account when
you scheme to post such a stupid article?

--hironobu
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Attractive, Wealthy Japanese Woman Sought
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:29:07 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


>Oh Gerard, you're such a card! Everyone knows "gaijin" is
>the Japanese word for "Cajun". Whatta guy!

  What?  Excuse me! Who or What told you so? 
  I'm a Japanese, but taught that 'gaijin' means 'foreigner'
in English. 
  Now, I witch my Japanese-English dictionary. Kenkyusha's
New Little Japanese-English dictinary said 'gaijin' is 'foreigner'
or 'alien'. 
  And I have never heard the word for 'Cajun' in Japan. 

  If your dictionary or some books said so, please tell me
the title and publish company. I would like to make a complaint
to the company.

*******************************
*     Hirokatsu Watanabe      *
*******************************

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: Racism in Japan
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
	<SMITTIE.92Sep8130537@kiwi.csulb.edu>
	<1992Sep10.144400.1239@island.COM>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:35:57 GMT

Please read my post. The examples I used were from my own experience which is
American. However in the definitions offered I, or rather Miles, was very
clear. I also stated what I believe to be the fundamental difference between
Western and Japanese racism without ambiguity.

smittie
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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hentai Mags
Date: 6 Sep 1992 03:37:22 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

Well, loricon mags, which the Japanese are awfully good at making, have been
banned since April, so they're hard to get these days.  That hasn't prevented a
surge of loricon-related crimes in J-land; pretty soon, they're gonna be as
bad as US.  They say in Japanese mass media that most stars or loricon buffs,
but this woody allen thing might be a reflection of that on the other side
of the world.  As far as I'm concerned, many Japanese animation videos
are soft-porn inclined anyway.
	These days, you will find a lot of S&M stuff with tied&gagged OL's
	and the likes.  Besides the scatology videos.  Piss, shit and whips
	defines Japanese porno culture these days.
From: mbuntan@epx.cis.umn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: travelling
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:06:59 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota


Could anybody help me answer these questions about
travelling in Japan?
I'm planning to spend a week or two there
around late December or early January.
How much money do I need if I plan to stay with friends but
may travel around a lot?
Is it better to buy a train ticket from here?
(I mean the type you can used for one or two weeks?)
How about the air fair during that time of the year?
Any answer will be appreciated.
Monthian Buntan
EMail: mbuntan@epx.cis.umn.edu
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: The Northern Islands
Date: 13 Sep 1992 03:50:12 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

All right, so if once the Japanese acquire the Northern Islands, what are they
going to do with them?  Turn them into tourist traps?  Watch the four rocks
turn into four recreational complexes overnight?  Better yet, connect them
with subways.  Turn island #1 into a parking lot, #2 into a disneyland,
#3 into a Seibu department outlet, and #4 into a Self-Defense Force naval
air station.

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