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From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:48:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr14.210028.28586@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> lein@base.UUCP (John Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322) writes:
>
>If the school songs are included, how about PITT's rendition of the
>German national anthem

   This is true.  Pitt's Alma Mater shares the same melody as
"Deutchland Uber Alles."  I've never heard how this came to be.
However, Pitt is a very old school, over 200 years old, and it's
possible that Pitt selected this memody before Germany.  Remember,
Germany was not one country until Bismark unified the place in the mid
1800's.  I often wonder if Pitt sang the Alma Mater during WW II.  I'll
have to ask some old time Band alums at next year's Homecoming.

   The Pitt Band ends all performances with the Alma Mater.  After a pep
rally in front of Madison Square Garden, a couple of Germans came up to
me and asked why Pitt was playing their national anthem.

> - or their fight song "P" "E" "N" "N" "STATE You S*CK" I heard they even
>sing this at Big East basketball games.
>
   Almost.  The actual words to the Pitt Victory Song sung by the student body
is "Penn State Sucks!" repeated three times and "P E N N S T SUCKS."  The
official words are "Fight! Pitt! Fight!".  Yes, this is done also at Big
East basketball games, although for really big games, the name of the
opposing school is substituted for Penn State.

   The student version causes the Pitt administration no end of
embarassement.  Band members are instructed not to sing the "PSU Sucks"
version.  I've even heard band directors discussing aloud the
possibility of eliminating the offending verse from the song.

   For really stupid lyrics however, I've got to nominate PSU's Alma Mater.
There's nothing like being in Beaver Stadium and hearing tens of
thousands singing "We don't know the God Damn Words."

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
From: stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: FSU vs the ACC (was: NCSU's 1992 Football Schedule)
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:32:20 GMT
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DOUGLAS EDWARD LAW  writes
+ In article <1992Apr16.112258.2032@unx.sas.com>, sasprs@michener.unx.sas.com  
(Philip Shelton) writes:

+ |> Sep. 19  Fla. St.    Raleigh             is a Pack win possible?
+                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+         * We'll give FSU as big a fight as anyone else will in the confer-
+           ence.(IMHO) (of course, I don't know if that's saying much) FSU
+           better not go into any ACC game overconfident. On any given day... 

Why is it that everyone assumes (at least around here) that FSU will 
"dominate" [a _Florida Flamebeau_'s sports writer opinion] the ACC?
They play on the road:

GTech
NCSt
Clemson
Virgina

and of course Miami [they're BEast, but I don't expect it to be a pleasant 
game]. 

If FSU goes 10-1, it will be a *very* good season. A 9-2 or even 8-3 is
possible. At least FSU has the advantage of a good, solid defense. But
so did Texas last year. If the offense does not come together, it could
be a loooooong season.

James
From: kk18@prism.gatech.EDU (Kelly Kenion)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:03:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Apr14.181335.11165@rice.edu> rbutera@barred.owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera) writes:

>My vote:	I'm a Ramblin' 'Reck ... (its got it all  - wine, women,
>					  song, engineering, anti-UGA stuff)

>		(actually, someone else on the net claimed that the 
>		Ramblin' 'Reck tune is stolen from the school song of
>		the Colorado School of Mines.  I do know that the song is
>		a takeoff of "Son of a Gondolier" - does this also happen
>		to be their school song?)

Agreed. Actually, I think the name of the original song was "Son of a GAMbolier"
(whatever that might be).  I got that from George C. Griffin's autobiography.
I'd also like to nominate "Hail to the Victors", the University of Michigan's
awesome fight song.  While simple and to the point, it is an experience to
hear 100,000+ people singing it.  Incidentally, there was also a rumor that
Stanford's song has the same tune as Tech's "White and Gold".  Does anyone
know anything about Stanford's fight song?  Of course, this all came up before
the Aloha Bowl.

>Stupidest:	Clemson fight song.  What other school's fight song is so

But wait!  What about "Boola Boola" (or however you spell it).  Yalies, where'd
that COME from?!

>Overplayed:	If I hear one more fraternity/sorority/social club that has

Notre Dame by a landslide.

>Boring:	UVA singing their version of everyone's favorite New Year's

Come on, Rob!  Ya gotta go with "Glory to Old Georgia" (or whatever the hell
the name of that LAME song is!).

>What else?  (Of course my favorite is a little biased ...)

Following up on another poster's thoughts...  Here's another waste of time: 
How about lamest fight song/band uniform combination?  Gotta be USC (and
that WOULDN'T be the Gamecocks).  Okay, okay, so they finally got rid of the
Fuller brush broom helmets...

-- 
Kenion, Kelly W.                             GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!
Georgia Institute of Technology           
Atlanta Georgia, 30332           
Internet: kk18@prism.gatech.edu
From: tbn0931@zeus.tamu.edu (NORTH, THOMAS BENJAMIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:10:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr3.033019.25391@talon.ucs.orst.edu>, navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre -- Botany and Plant Pathology) writes...
>Gary smith writes stand up material knocking the SEC and UT.
> 
>Putting A&M in the same sentence as UT in the context of academics is a joke.
** flame on **
	Have you been to either one of these schools??? You have no fucking 
	idea of the academics of either school. Both are great schools,
	I know...I've been to both...A&M is better for some engineering, but
	Texas is better in graduate school...
	I have friends at both schools, and we all know that TU and A&M are 
	pretty much even.
** flame off **
>UT blows A&M out of the water in that category.
>   As far  as joining the SEC being a step down in academics pure bullshit. You seem very fond of insults and putdowns. Get your facts straight first in the 
>future if you continue to feel this infantile need to hurl insults. I can assureyou several SEC schools have better scientific reps than A&M as does almost every PAC -10 school. Before you make you next generalization insult--think first.
> 
>I might ask not only why you think the SEC would take you, but why the hell
>would the PAC-10 if academics are the criteria?
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 13:26:24 EDT
From: Jeff Appleman <MBAJSA@ROHVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Distribution: na
 <1992Apr14.194309.3868@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
 <1992Apr14.210028.28586@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> <1301@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>

In article <1301@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
says:
>In article <1992Apr14.210028.28586@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> lein@base.UUCP    n
>(Joh
>Leinaweaver,,RRC-4A720,699-2322) writes:
>>
  (bunch of stuff about Pitt's alma mater and Deutschland Uber Alles deleted)
>
>   The student version causes the Pitt administration no end of
>embarassement.  Band members are instructed not to sing the "PSU Sucks"
>
>   For really stupid lyrics however, I've got to nominate PSU's Alma Mater.
>There's nothing like being in Beaver Stadium and hearing tens of
>thousands singing "We don't know the God Damn Words."
>
>Harry Bloomberg
>hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu

 The same is probably true of PSU's administration and alumni. It's actually
not tens of thousands, probably more like 10,000 or 20,000 mostly sophomores
and freshman who get to sit with their backs to the scoreboard where the
actual words appear. Unfortunately, they tend to drown out the few alumni who
bother to try and sing the real words.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Jeff Appleman         My father is a Scotsman, but mostly spoke
mbajsa@rohvm1.bitnet     Medieval English  -- Young Indy
From: pistol@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter C Tortorici)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND Recruits ???
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:52:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr13.192945.942@desire.wright.edu> s0197@desire.wright.edu writes:
>Can anyone tell me who were some of Notre Dame's recruits for this
>year, and also could someone e-mail me their schedule for this year?
>
>Thanks.
>
>--
>Steve Vukusich
>s0197@desire.wright.edu
>Go Irish!!!

All you have to do is look at the Parade all-american list, and there
you have the ND recruiting list (smile)

Pete
From: Brennan.J.Murphy.53@nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ANYONE INTERESTED IN GATORS' SCHEDULE
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:41:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr13.174117.15241
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Notre Dame

In article <35046@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, abbasi@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU writes:
> 
> 
> If anybody is interested I can post the 92 schedule for the Gators.
> If there is further interest, a list of their recruits can also be
> posted. Let me know !!
> 
> Waheed
> Just another Fightin' Gator :)
> 
>Maybe, the law enforcement agencies in the area of each gamesite would be 
interested.  As well as those of us who fear social deviants such as
those who play for the gators.  Posting the schedule would help us steer
clear of those areas on gameday.  And if we can't stear clear, at least
we'll know to lock our cars and park them in well lit areas.  So, yes
Waheed, please post the schedule.  Oh, and in addition to your list of
recruits, I could post a recent list of those finished serving time
in our federal prisons.  Those who read this newsgroup could have fun
matching the names on each list:-)))
From: jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:03:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Apr8.184954.9585@news.larc.nasa.gov> mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson) writes:
>In article <11997@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith) writes:
>>In article <70005@ut-emx.uucp> jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau) writes:
>>
>>[jay creams all over himself while describing UT academic prowess]
>
>well, Jay probably learned to do this at his previous institution...
>(haven't baited Jay in a long time :-)

Gee, Mike, you're going to have to do better than that. After reading
r.s.f/bb.c for a few months, you get pretty tolerant... :-) At least YOUR
post tempted _some_ kind of followup out of me.

>>Yeah but your mascot is a cow.
>
>um, lets keep the subject off of embarassing mascots, ok?
>

C'mon, Mike, having a Fighting Gobbler as a mascot isn't
so bad. Why, I'm sure there are at least a half-dozen life forms that are
_terrified_ at the thought of facing an enraged turkey. Worms, some insects,
hmmm, help me out here.... 

Jay
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups/SEC)
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:52:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Apr6.212301.26324@talon.ucs.orst.edu> navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre -- Botany and Plant Pathology) writes:
--Same old Gary I see. You ignored the point of my post which was academics--and
--an explanation of why the aggies dislike LSU. I asked you to name the SEC schools
--which are weak in academics. Well?      

Well, two-thirds of that posting of yours was rambling about LSU's athletic
prowess and didn't have a stinkin' thing to do with academics.  I don't see 
why you say that academics was the point.
But anyways...how can I phrase this diplomatically...uhm, let's just say that
the SEC is not known for it's academic prowess.  I can think of a couple of 
schools in the conference that I would rate as good, the rest, well, I'll
just leave it at that.  If you don't like my answer, too bad.  

--But I must say boy did you sure show me huh? Man thats telling me! OUCH!

I thought that perhaps you need a wake-up call.  After reading your latest
postings (this and in r.c.bb.c) I think it helped...they are actually readable.

--Its nice to see you ignore the facts and a rational response and resort to
--Mickey Mouse name calling. But hey, Its the GOOBER, I'm dealing with.

I wouldn't step too far on the facts and rational response plank...I call 
always call up some of your more clueless postings.

BTW, that should be THE GOOBER (tm), and I don't consider that to be name
calling, just plain fact.

- gary (relax, be happy) smith


-- 
Racism Sucks!
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: academics
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:13:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <92099.232901MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish) writes:
--Our institution is constantly comparing figures with other Big 10 schools
--now that we are in - especially by the college newspaper in a negative
--light (we have a very high student to computer ratio and a very low
--book to student ratio).

And starting in '93, you'll have a very low win to loss ratio.

- gary (you'll lower that student to computer ratio by dumping psuvm and 
        getting some useful machines) smith

-- 
Racism Sucks!
From: cpg@pyuxf.uucp (25336-goedde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Phil Simms
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:20:24 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Apr10.180608.25505@cbfsb.cb.att.com> djvh@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (david.van handel) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.140330.6693@pollux.lu.se>, pelle@lotka.teorekol.lu.se (Pelle Ingvarsson) writes:
>> Any news on wether Phil Simms have left the Giants (which I think 
>> he should do) or if he' still on their pay-roll ????  The last thing I heard
>> was that the Raiders was interested in him .............
>> 
>	Last I heard he was part of a 3-way deal.  Simms to the Raiders,
>Lott, Waymer, & Schroeder to Pittsburgh, and Bubby Brister to NYG.

Actually, Brister went to the Eagles and Reggie White completed the deal
by going to NYG.

By the way, Parcells signed with Tampa.


----
 Curt Goedde
 Bell Communications Research, Pis-cat-away, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jmay@iconix.oz.au (John May)
Subject: Joe Montana
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:25:29 GMT

Hello from down under!

We do not get much (if any) pro football news from the US, so I was wondering
if some kind soul (I presume there are a few out there!) could provide me
with some info on the condition of Joe Montana, both wrt his injuries and
his contractual situation with the 49ers (there was some talk a while back
that he might be traded).

	Thanks in advance!
From: joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: 28-TEAM TRADE COVERED UP
Date: 12 Apr 1992 02:53:30 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: langtry.cs.utexas.edu


According to sources, all 28 teams completed a circular trade and then
attempted to conceal it from the media.

The details of the trade are as follows:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The teams were listed in alphabetic order.  The first team on the list traded
all of its players and draft picks and $1 million to the next team on the list,
who traded their original players, picks, and $1 million to the next team on
the list, and so on for the first 27 teams.  The last team on the list traded
its original players, picks, and $1 million to the first team on the list.

Then, the above process was repeated 27 more times.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The media became suspicious when it was noticed that Bubby Brister, who
apparently was involved in negotiating the trade, began to look for apartments
in 26 cities but ended up keeping his original residence.  When questioned
about the reasoning behing this apartment-seeking, Brister replied,
"I was confused."

This report has not been confirmed, but if, on draft day, all of the teams
still have the players and picks they are supposed to have, we will know that
the rumor is accurate.

-Reporter Joel
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: News from the Bay Area (No not *that* Bay Area - Green Bay!)
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:23:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Apr14.164747.29571@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey) writes...

>In article <1992Apr13.185313.18030@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>		[ .... other stuff deleted .....]
>>The lack of a FB troubles me.  
> 
>The lack of a FB troubles me as well, but if the Pack drafts one
>with their #1 pick, Wolf will have already proven himself to be
>as big an idiot as Tom Braatz when it comes to conducting a draft
>(I don't believe this is the case).  It is this short-sighted
>drafting from need that has caused the Packers to be a doormat
>for the past 10 years (except '89).  This is what caused such draft such
>flops as Rich Campbell, Bruce Clark, Brent Fullwood, Ken Davis, 
>Robbie Bosco, and Shawn Patterson
>(you could possibly add Tony Mandarich and Darryl Thompson to this
>list in the future).  With the 5th pick in the draft the Packers have
>the opportunity to get a great player.  They can't blow this pick 
>by filling a hole.  The best FB in the draft is Tommy Vardell from
>Stanford and he is projected as a late first rounder at best.  It
>is my opinion that the Pack should take one of the following players
>(depending on who is still available):  
>	1.) Troy Vincent - CB, Wisconsin
>	2.) Sean Gilbert - DL, Pitt
>	3.) Bob Whitfield - OT, Stanford
>	4.) Quitan Coryett - LB, Texas A&M
>I am assuming Entman will definitely be gone.  The Packers should save 
>drafting of an FB to a later round.

I'd be happy if the Packers drafted any of these people.  The only 
thing is that, as I've said before, I don't believe in these 
'projection' things.  I'd like to point out that many of the players 
you point to as flops were 'projected' to be great players in the NFL.

And, of course, I can name lots of players that were totally 
unheralded in college who become stars in the pros.  How many teams 
passed on Dan Marino before Miami selected him?  26?  I think he was 
something like the 5th QB taken.

John G. Heim                                 Email:  heim@macc.wisc.edu
**************** Not responsible for lost or stolen articles. ****************
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:40:52 -0400 
From: King-Han Yao <ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bills/ Jets receiver trade? Not!
	<1992Apr13.163743.2856@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>

On 13-Apr-92 in Re: Bills/ Jets receiver tr..
user un040251@wvnvms.wvnet.ed writes:
>In article <sduEADC00WBNQ5xWMe@andrew.cmu.edu>, ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu
(King-Han 
>Yao) writes:
>> On 13-Apr-92 in Bills/ Jets receiver trade?..
>> user T. Steegman@ubvmsb.cc.bu writes:
>>> 
>>>	That last post said that many NFL teams would trade their receivers
>>>for those of the Jets. Please get real.Though the Jets have SOME talent,
>>>they have a long way to go before the Bills would trade Reed, Beebe,
>> and Lofton
>>>for a has been and a few might be's.  Miami will provide the only
significant
>>>challenge to the Bills in this coming year in the AFC East. Also, I
don't feel
>>>that the Chiefs will have as good a year as last. Just a hunch.
Denver in the
>>>West, Oilers in the Central. That is unless Brister comes back from the dead
>>>or wherever he is...
>>> 
>> 
>> Excuse me, but Moore of the Jets is not a "might be".  He is a star, now!
> 
>Then you and I have different interpretations of "star" cus I agreed with
>the other guy.  To me a "star" is a guy like Rice, Clark, Rison, Reed and
>those types, not Rob Moore.  I do not have Moore's stats, and if you do post
>them as part of your arguement for Moore, but I do not see him as a "star"
>yet.
>> 
>Brian Mulholland
> 

You're right.  We do have different interpretations of the word star.  
To me, Rice, Clark, Rison and Reed are SUPERSTARS.  While Moore and
Clayton are stars.

But like I said, I would rather have the Bills WRs than the Jets, mainly
because of Reed.
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King Yao                       
Economics 
Class of '92                   
Carnegie Mellon 

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cml69@cas.org (;A/5G)
Subject: Marinovich fails drug test
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:32:30 GMT


    I just heard that Todd Marinovich failed yet another drug test.

    *sigh*  Will the Silver & Black ever get a QB??
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: CFL '92 Predictions
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:17:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.214707.8102@descartes.waterloo.edu> srklump@descartes.waterloo.edu (elm) writes:
>My best guess:

>West:  Calgary Stampeders       13 - 5  - 0
>       B.C. Lions               10 - 8  - 0
>       Edmonton Eskimos          9 - 8  - 1
>       Saskatchewan Roughriders  5 - 12 - 1

>East:  Toronto Argonauts        15 - 3  - 0
>       Ottawa Rough Riders       8 - 10 - 0
>       Winnipeg Blue Bombers     7 - 11 - 0
>       Hamilton Tiger-Cats       4 - 14 - 0

				71-71-2

Strange, the wins and losses add up.  Very unusual for this group.

	[ ... ]

>           Mike (Pinball) Clemons will be player-of-the-year.

Did Clemons play for William and Mary a few years ago?  They had a
pretty good back by that name.

	[ ...] 
-- 
	Stupidity got us into this mess; why can't it get us out?

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com!marshall (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Joe is back!
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 05:38:43 GMT

Joe Montana participated in a mini-camp yesterday in Santa Clara, 
throwing for the first time in a long time in front of reporters.
The stories in the paper indicated that he threw like the old Joe,
without any pain, and that he fully expects to come back this season
at full strength.
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