Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: A bunch of prejudiced people.
From: asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:52:26 GMT
 <1992Jul22.203330.22715@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> <1992Jul23.093009.13594@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf) was telling me...
>
>My apologies to all Americans, who are not IrcOp for EGO reasons and are not
>IrcAdmins for EGO reasons and felt that I have addressed my flame to
>them! This is NOT what I wanted!
>
>In article <1992Jul22.203330.22715@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>, asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:
>|> How sad...how really sad.  I've been reading both sides of
>|> this 'My country is better than yours' argument and it has all the 
>|> kick of the 'My computer is better than yours'$ 'My car is better than yours',
>|> or 'My dad can beat up your dad'.  
>
>STOP! This is not true!
>I didn't flame that my country is better than yours, not even all countries
>are better than US.

I didn't specify you by name...if need be I will search back and find the 
appropriate articles.  One of the ones I can think of off the top of my head
was someone saying all Americans take a holier than thou attitude.  Said
that americans felt they were the nation chosen by god, wer the best nation
in the world, etc.  There were a few other similar articles.  I cannot be
sure of specific names unless I go back and look.
But those artlces I read that said things like that were definately of the 
nature I described.

>What I said was (and what should become clear, if you read my flame carefully):
>1) That the biggest contingent of IRC Servers is from US
>2) That most of them are there for EGO reasons (and so not really needed)

Very true.

>3) That most of the Ops in US are Ops for EGO reasons (and so not really needed)!

Well this can be said for many places, not just the US...but obviously the
US will have a high content because of your #1.

>4) That most of the admins of THOSE servers and THOSE Ops think that US is
>   the best ... rules the world and this stuff.

This is a BIG generalization.  Find me some quotes and statistics please.
I for one do not feel that way.

>5) That most of THEM should consult a psychiater!

Ah, an obligatory flame of some group for no real reason whatsoever.

>1), 2) and 3) I think are facts.
>4) is my theory (which I get from the actions and /WALLOPS (from the time we
>   has them))
>5) I wrote this, 'cause I was really angry and it was mainly meant to one
>   person! (But I still think someone who thinks that his country rules the
>   world should consult a psychater - no matter what country he is from)
>
>I did NOT say:
>1) ALL americans are morons/insane
>2) my country is better than yours

I never said YOU did.  Someone did...do I have to go back and find the names
for you?

>I too, don't think there are any problems with being proud of my country,
>but that doesn't mean that I close my eyes to all the things that are
>bad (and every country has things that are good and things that are bad)

The comments I was referring to had nothing to do with national pride of any
nation...they were just attacks on nother nations for no good reasons.

>
>|> So where do we go from here?  Is any specific part of the US more moronic
>|> than the others?  What about Europe?  Where do the really insane people
>|> live there?  
>
>As I said, I didn't have any generalizations in mind.
>And for the insane topic:
>
>Don't you think that someone, who is down to hell, 'cause that bitch of
>a girl he knew from IRC and he was so in love with left him, who on the
>other day writes "IRC is fun" and on the next day says "I have a new love
>and it's serious this time", who himself says he's Op only for being Op
>and because it's cool.
>Don't you think that someone like him really has some problems, and isn't
>too mature

I don't disagree with you there...but making a generalization becuase of
this one person is definately WRONG.  NOt everyone is like this person
(which is good)

-Alex

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