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From: NORDLUND@UKANVM.BITNET (Dave Nordlund)
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Subject: Re: MAXMAILBYTES
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:06:36 GMT
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On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:32:18 EST Ben Chi said:
>
>To my knowledge there is no standard method for sending someone a file
>via the internet EXCEPT via SMTP.   Note that I use "send" here in the
>RSCS/SENDFILE sense -- namely send someone a file without entering his
>directory.  With FTP you have to know the recipient's logon password.
>
>Indeed, FAL's Internet-enhanced SENDFILE sends the file as mail when-
>ever the recipient's address is an IP address.
>                                             /b
Yes, the lack of sender originated file transfer is what keeps some people
on BITnet.  There are efforts to define such a facility within TCP/IP.

         Dave Nordlund                 Associate Director
         Computing Services            University of Kansas
         NORDLUND@UKANVM.BITNET        nordlund@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu
         913/864-0450
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:29:42 EST
From:         Mimi Zohar <ZOHAR@YKTVMV.BITNET>
Subject:      namesrv messages

> I decided to point one of my SMTP virtual machines at my caching
> namesrv on the local machine which has the latest service applied
> and I started to get a ton of the following messages... any ideas out there?
>
> 21:21:42  A:  237                    : not queued
>
> /mrg

The 'not queued' message indicates the same query was sent to multiple
remote name servers before a response was received.  The first response
received is returned to the client and removed from the query queue.
The above message is printed when a subsequent response is received,
but has been removed from the query queue.

Mimi Zohar
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:23:24 -0500
From:         gettes@PRINCETON.EDU
Subject:      namesrv messages

I decided to point one of my SMTP virtual machines at my caching
namesrv on the local machine which has the latest service applied
and I started to get a ton of the following messages... any ideas out there?

21:21:42  A:  237                    : not queued

/mrg
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:18:00 EST
From:         Alice Jackson <TS5363@OHSTMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      FTP Problem - AS/400 to MVS TCP/IP

We are running the MVS/370 version of TCP/IP 1.1.0.  A user FTP's
to our system from an AS/400, and does a change directory and PUT
with the following results:

    CD HRST
    "'userid.HRST.'" is working directory name prefix

    PUT  compp/test.test  'hrst.test'
    Storing data set  userid.HRST.HRST.TEST

It appears that the AS/400 is stripping off the quotes.  Has anyone
else seen this problem?  Any ideas where to look?

Thanks.
Alice Jackson               jackson.11@osu.edu
Ohio State University
(614)-292-3687
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:42:00 GMT
From:         "Robert G. Moskowitz" <0003858921@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Phone Number/Address of OpensConnect Systems (Mitek)

>I just called them yesterday.  Why is 3279 emulation so expensive??? :-(

Do you need it in straight DOS or in Windows?  What product set does your
company currently use for connecting PCs to 'classic' 3174 controllers.  I have
been working a fair amount in this arena and might be able to give you a list of
options based on your requirements.

Bob Moskowitz
Chrysler Corp
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:55:00 GMT
From:         "Robert G. Moskowitz" <0003858921@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: ftp-vsam

>(Btw, I'm still waiting for an explanation of what it means to have
>a VSAM file exported via NFS.  What can Unix systems do with it?)

Who cares about VSAM on UNIX.  For DOS or OS/2, this is very nice for MICROFOCUS
COBOL Workbench programmers.

Hmmmm, come to think of it, there is MicroFocus COBOL for UNIX.  It might
work...


Robert Moskowitz
Chrysler Corp.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:50:15 EST
From:         John Wagner <jwagner@CLYTEMNESTRA.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MAXMAILBYTES
              07 Jan 93 09:38:46 CST." <9301071545.AA25697@Princeton.EDU>

> It seems incredible to me that ANYONE can deal with a 512K Email message!
> Remember, BITnet uses the IBM RSCS protocol and does not have a separate
> file transfer like FTP.  Therefore the message size has to be large enough
> to handle file transfers.  SMTP should not be used for file transfers.
> FTP should be used for large data movements.  Therefore it seems as though
> 512K should be enough for just Email.
>
>          Dave Nordlund                 Associate Director
>          Computing Services            University of Kansas
>          NORDLUND@UKANVM.BITNET        nordlund@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu
>          913/864-0450

Until you start moving sound and graphic objects around.  MIME makes this
possible.  Some of us recommended 10M limits for Bitnet because we believe
those sizes will be seen within the next year or two on the internet and
wanted to be able to transport them to bitnet recipients.  Politically that
just wasn't going to happen, so it will be interesting to see what kinds of
disruption occur (if any) as internet mail sizes grow.

   John
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:06:58 CET
From:         "Alain FONTAINE (Post master - UCL)" <fontaine@SRI.UCL.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: Need ph or qi for CMS

I do have a client. Warning: written in Rexx using RXSOCKET...    /AF
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:03:30 +0100
From:         Herman Van Uytven <SYSTHVU@CC1.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>
Subject:      sending all mail from IBM SMTP to a UNIX SMTP

Hello,

I wonder if (and how) it is possible to send all mails which
arrive on an SMTP (via it's spool) to another SMTP (preferably
without using a special DNS server which points for all domains
to the other SMTP).

Thanks,

-Herman-
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:02:17 EST
From:         "The Postman Always ..." <SPOST@NASAGISS.GISS.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Mail acknowledgements not being received anymore

The fix was to run SMTPRSCS to create SMTPRSCS HOSTINFO.

Thanks in particular to <gettes@Princeton.EDU> and Richard Hintz
(<opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu>, <opsrjh@uucvma>) for the solution.

Ken Bell (SYKLB@NASAGISS * SYKLB@NASAGISS.GISS.NASA.GOV * 212-678-5545)
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:38:46 CST
From:         Dave Nordlund <NORDLUND@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: MAXMAILBYTES

On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:28:28 EST Richard Varenas said:
>Is there a recommended limit for the largest file size SMTP will
>accept via the MAXMAILBYTES in the SMTP CONFIG file?
>
>I know that BITNET (CREN) just increased their limit to 1M but the
>INTERNET transport mechanism is much faster.
>
>DUVM is connected to both BITNET and the INTERNET of course.
>
>MAXMAILBYTES is currently set to the default of 524288 (512K) and
>a local user just went over the limit when sending internal mail..
>
It seems incredible to me that ANYONE can deal with a 512K Email message!
Remember, BITnet uses the IBM RSCS protocol and does not have a separate
file transfer like FTP.  Therefore the message size has to be large enough
to handle file transfers.  SMTP should not be used for file transfers.
FTP should be used for large data movements.  Therefore it seems as though
512K should be enough for just Email.

         Dave Nordlund                 Associate Director
         Computing Services            University of Kansas
         NORDLUND@UKANVM.BITNET        nordlund@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu
         913/864-0450
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:23:13 EST
From:         Ben Chi <BEC@ALBANY.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Automatic Account Allocations
              7 Jan 1993 08:54:42 CDT5 from <KKL@CCSTAFF.CC.UKANS.EDU>

We have had in place for several years now a system whereby a student
can go to a user room and get him/herself a computer account on any of
our central systems.  Maybe Aaron Morris (SYSAM@ALBANY), our IBM
systems manager who developed the system, would be willing to say a
little more about it, seeing as there's some interest in the topic.

(I'm not sure, however, that this is the right list for this dis-
cussion.  Anybody have a better suggestion?)
                                             /b
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:46:33 -0500
From:         gettes@PRINCETON.EDU
Subject:      Re: namesrv messages
              12 Jan 93 15:29:42 -0500. <9301122036.AA14211@Princeton.EDU>

On Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:29:42 -0500 zohar@yktvmv.bitnet said:
> > I decided to point one of my SMTP virtual machines at my caching
> > namesrv on the local machine which has the latest service applied
> > and I started to get a ton of the following messages... any ideas out there?
> >
> > 21:21:42  A:  237                    : not queued
> >
> > /mrg
>
> The 'not queued' message indicates the same query was sent to multiple
> remote name servers before a response was received.  The first response
> received is returned to the client and removed from the query queue.
> The above message is printed when a subsequent response is received,
> but has been removed from the query queue.

Thanks. Could this message be removed from "standard" operation as it
really fills up my console log?

/mrg
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:35:01 CST
Comments:     Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X
From:         Chuck Nelson <NELSON@TWSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      No data in NAMESRV sql tables

I have had our name server running for a short while and have noticed a
major problem. The sql tables for namesrv are empty. The name server
functions as a secondary to the server on our DEC and also as a secondary
on the internet. We are running VM/ESA 1.1.

When I checked the namesrv console during startup I received the following
msgs.

   refresh required for twsu.edu
        :cm:   qname='TWSU.EDU', qtype=6, qclass=1
   NXAZONE: resetting refresh value
        : cmolsub: comp2dot() finds not enough room

   This all came to my attention when out primary name server on the DEC
was down during the holiday break and nobody could do anything.

If any one could shead some light on my problem I would be forever greatful.

If you would like more information please call at (316) 689-3861 or send
me some private mail.

Chuck Nelson
Tech. Support Analyst
From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
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Subject: Re: ftp-vsam
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:38:00 GMT
Organization: Draper Laboratory

In article <01GT5MHSFXKI00007Y@VAX.ROSEDALE.ORG>,
crizzuto@ROSEDALE.ORG (Charlie Rizzuto) writes:

>One of our users was trying to FTP a file to a VSAM entry sequenced data
>set on the mainframe.  He says he is getting an error message saying
>that VSAM files are not supported.  Is that true?  How can he upload a
>file into a VSAM entry sequenced data set?

You probably have to upload the file into a plain MVS sequential
data set and then run an IDCAMS REPRO to create the VSAM one.

(Btw, I'm still waiting for an explanation of what it means to have
a VSAM file exported via NFS.  What can Unix systems do with it?)

--
Steve Bacher (Batchman)                 Draper Laboratory
Internet: seb@draper.com                Cambridge, MA, USA
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:27:56 PDT
From:         Richard Hintz <OPSRJH@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: POP Server?

On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:16:00 EST <KDICKEY@GMR.COM> said:
>Anyone know of a POP Server that will run on VM, and work with Profs
>or OfficeVision?


Charley Kline ported POP3 to VM.  The latest version is on
vmd.cso.uiuc.edu in the POPD directory.  I believe this version
incorporates some changes from Stu Sugarman of UC which recognizes Profs
subjects for clients like Eudora and allows the NUPop client to
read Profs notes that have no blank lines without choking.

  Richard Hintz  opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu  opsrjh@uccvma
  University of California
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:16:00 EST
From:         KDICKEY@GMR.COM
Subject:      POP Server?

Hello,

Anyone know of a POP Server that will run on VM, and work with Profs
or OfficeVision?

Thanks,
Keith Dickey   kdickey@cmsa.gmr.com
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:11:00 EST
From:         "Mike Oatsvall 677-8000 X7605 (919)" <SNORMO@MVS.SAS.COM>
Subject:      Re: 3172 "1101" problem

> hi all,
>
> we recently started getting a"1101" message on our 3172 for which our
> ibm ce thought he had a fix but after it's application we find we still
> have the problem.  according to the documentation the "1101" message
> indicates an inability for the 3172 to obtain a buffer but the host
> recovers (most of the time). anyone else experience this?
>
I'm seeing the same problem with our 3172. I have an open etr with level
II. Of course, this is the first they have ever heard of this problem.
I'm gathering trace information for them now. As far as I can tell it
does not seem to adversely affect the 3172s ability to function. The
users aren't complaining yet.
Mike

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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:18:29 EST
From:         Jeff Langley <jlangley@SUN1.WWB.NOAA.GOV>
Subject:      Db Search

Search CTC in ibmtcp-l since 01/92
From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
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Subject: Re: MAXMAILBYTES
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:09:35 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

In article <IBMTCP-L%93010713125202@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU> NORDLUND@UKANVM.BITNET (Dave Nordlund) writes:
>On Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:32:18 EST Ben Chi said:
>>To my knowledge there is no standard method for sending someone a file
>>via the internet EXCEPT via SMTP.   Note that I use "send" here in the

>Yes, the lack of sender originated file transfer is what keeps some people
>on BITnet.  There are efforts to define such a facility within TCP/IP.

You are both right: it's been done, but it uses SMTP as a transport
mechanism.  It's called MIME and is defined in RFC 1341.  It supports
messages containing both text and binary files.  Although nearly all
the standard is to do with defining a structured mail message format,
a few extra mail headers are used to tell the recipient's mail-reader
that it is a MIME message.  It's quite new but many of the public-domain
Unix mailers now support it.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:57:01 UTC+0100
From:         Jean Pernet <S0CO014@CC2.KULEUVEN.AC.BE>
Subject:      smf record lay-out

Where can the record lay-out of the SMF-records for FTP and TELNET
be found? The FTP-records are documented in planning and customization
(although there is more in the records than in the documentation), but I
don't find the TELNET-records. Do I overlook something?
Thanks.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:04:36 EST
From:         Mimi Zohar <ZOHAR@YKTVMV.BITNET>
Subject:      not communicating with the secondary namesrv

> Greetings,
>
> I have a problem that I am unable to pinpoint myself and would like to
> throw it out on this list.
> We have a NAMESRV (1.2.2) set up for cache only and redirect queries to
> the primary and secondary nameservers. The primary functions as expected
> but when the primary is down, no queries seem to be directed to the
> secondary for resolution.
>
> This is a VM shop (HPO 5) running an old version of TCPIP (1.2.2), I have
> included the NSMAIN DATABASE file and parts of the TCPIP DATA file for
> review.
> If someone would be so kind as to give me some direction on solving this
> problem or where I may find some good documentation, I would appreciate
> this extremely. Thank you.
>
> Randy Campbell    Kent State University     CAMPBELL@Kentvm.bitnet

In namesrv version 1.2.2 all queries, for which the local name server
isn't authoritative, are sent via TCP to a remote name server.  Since
a cachingonly name server isn't authoritative for any queries, all of
the queries which haven't been previously cached are sent to a remote
server.  If the remote name server doesn't respond, the query is resent
to the next remote name server listed.  The original query will probably
time out, but the query response is cached.

I suggest if at all possible you get a newer version of nsmain which
communicates with remote name servers via UDP.

Mimi Zohar
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:28:28 EST
From:         Richard Varenas <VARENAS@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      MAXMAILBYTES

Is there a recommended limit for the largest file size SMTP will
accept via the MAXMAILBYTES in the SMTP CONFIG file?

I know that BITNET (CREN) just increased their limit to 1M but the
INTERNET transport mechanism is much faster.

DUVM is connected to both BITNET and the INTERNET of course.

MAXMAILBYTES is currently set to the default of 524288 (512K) and
a local user just went over the limit when sending internal mail..

Thanks for any opinions or suggestions.

-Rich (Postmaster)
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From: ddking@dante.nmsu.edu (Dwight King)
Subject: Automatic Account Allocations
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:01:10 GMT


I have a unique question. I have a program that is written in C. This
program is used by the Computer Center here on Campus to grant students
accounts on the systems that are available. The student simply logs on to
the machine that they wish to work on (UNIX, VAX, Mainframe) using the ID
of accounts. This is a captive account that asks them for their Social
Security Number and their birth date. Then with this information the
captive account verifies their enrollment as a student on a central
database. If they are enrolled then the captive account then creates them
an account on that system.

What I am interested in finding out is if there is a commercial product
that would do the same thing or something similar?

I thank you for the responses before hand.

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:56:23 EST
From:         John Wagner <jwagner@CLYTEMNESTRA.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: MAXMAILBYTES
              07 Jan 93 16:44:56 CST." <9301072248.AA14110@Princeton.EDU>

> I don't consider a mail message (envelope, attachments, body etc.) to be
> a substitute for file transfer.  File transfers retain file structures between
> systems so loadable code will still load and run and data base records are
> still usable.
>
>          Dave Nordlund                 Associate Director
>          Computing Services            University of Kansas
>          NORDLUND@UKANVM.BITNET        nordlund@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu
>          913/864-0450

Whose talking about file transfer? I'm talking about email with audio, video
and text.  We're testing the most recent release of MH with mime support and
a colleague sent me a sample file with 2 seconds of audio and a one line text
message.  That mail message is 22K bytes.  The folks on our Nexts like to use
lip service to annotate mail.  It doesn't take long to create a lot of bytes.

The profs in our music department use Nexts.  It is easy to envision the
following scenario (using a Mime compatible mailer):

    Dear xyz,

    Here`s my comments on your musical assignment:

Music starts playing here runs to a little while and then stops
Instructors voice starts here with comments about music and suggestions for
improvement.

More music
More commments

and around, and around, and around.

In this environment 10Meg may be to small.


   John
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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: Secondary Nameserver on VM
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 22:08:31 GMT

In article <IBMTCP-L%93011215294470@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU> Mimi Zohar <ZOHAR@YKTVMV.BITNET> writes:
>I'm suprised any name outside arizona.edu. would be resolved at all.
>You've defined the name server as authoritative for two zones.  In
>addition, the local name server needs to communicate with other name
>servers.  You can either define a set of remote name servers or
>request a zone transfer of root.
>
>primary   .     cache
>or
>
>secondary .     root    ip-addr  <- where ip-addr is a friendly name
>                                    server willing to transfer root.

If you are connected to the Internet, do NOT do this!  You are
advertising yourself as authorative for the root domain, which you
most certainly are NOT.  This will leak out, and hostmasters from
across the Internet will hunt you down and call you mean and nasty
names.  (Trust me)

Use:
cache	.	cachefile

What you need to do is put in the names and IP addresses of the
root nameservers.  If you don't understand what you're doing, please
pick up a good book on DNS.  (O'Reilly & Assoc's DNS & BIND book is
a Must Have)

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
	What if there was no such thing as a hypothetical question?
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