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From: zen@csl.dl.nec.com (zen kishimoto)
Subject: The address of the publisher of Software Practices and Experiences
Summary: I need the address of the publisher for S/W P&E
Keywords: Software Practices and Experiences
Organization: NEC America, C & C Software Development Laboratory
Date:  9 Apr 92 14:44:52 GMT

I would like to subscribe "Software Practices and Experiences".  Does
anyone know the name and the address of the publisher?
Thanks in advance.

Zen Kishimoto (zen@csl.dl.nec.com)
From: rms@Miles.COM (Rob Schultz)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Conference Rooms
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:43:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Miles Inc., Diagnostics Division, Elkhart, IN

In article <1992Apr4.015413.6148@stortek.com> alec@k2.stortek.com (Alec Sharp - x2955) writes:
>Recently I read somewhere (but I can't for the life of me remember where;
>perhaps here) about a study that looked at how and where software developers
>spend their time.  The conclusion, if memory serves me, was that the most time
>was spent in groups of two to three people, then by oneself, then in large
>groups.  The next conclusion was that the rooms in the building should reflect
>that time distribution.
>
>alec@stortek.com

See _Peopleware_ by DeMarco and Lister, Part II, "The Office Environment".


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From: gt@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (George Tatge)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:48:06 GMT
Subject: Framework Interoperability Group
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng


It has been apparent for sometime now that there are, and will be,
a large number of Integration Frameworks in the CASE, CAD, CAE, CAM,
OA,MIS, EIS, et al. worlds.  These Frameworks will need to cooperate.

The Framework Interoperability Group is a proposed effort to 
gather any and all interested parties together, from all of these
disciplines, to begin to discuss the issues surrounding Framework
Interoperability.  It is proposed that this group will be completely
open to all, and that it will be international both in participation
and in venues.

The first meeting of the FIG is proposed for late July or early August.
If you are seriously interested in participating in such a group to
help advance the open, international, multidiscipline cooperation
between integration frameworks please contact:

George Tatge
Software Engineering Systems
Hewlett Packard Company
Mail Stop 81
3404 E. Harmony Rd.
Ft. Collins CO, 80525-9599
U.S.A.

Tel. +1 (303) 229-3585
Fax. +1 (303) 229-2180
internet: gt@fc.sde.hp.com

Recommendations and proposals regarding exact dates, possible venues,
agenda items, invitees, etc. will be appreciated.

George Tatge
From: dwg@quintro.uucp (David W. Glessner)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Request electronic copy of SEI questions
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:29:02 GMT
Organization: Glenayre Electronics, Quincy IL

Can someone send me a copy or point me to an electronic copy of the
questions from the SEI assessment document, "A Method for Assessing
the Software Engineering Capability of Contractors"?
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From: tfj@cix.compulink.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: What is _Software Process_?
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:46:29 GMT
Reply-To: Trevor Jenkins <tfj@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk

In the comp.software-eng reading materials FAQ (readmsg) there is
a topic on _Software Process_. One of the cited references is
from the proceedings of the 4th Int'l Software Process Workshop.
I have read the proceedings and have to admit that I was none the
wiser for doing so. Either the concept is so simple that I missed
the point or I really do not understand it all. Perhaps somebody
could provide me with a succinct definition of the idea and/or
recommend an introductory text.

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From: tfj@cix.compulink.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: RE: "Lines of Code" Metric
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:45:03 GMT
Reply-To: Trevor Jenkins <tfj@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk

In his message <2APR199214265586@adpdp2.lanl.gov> 105126@adpdp2.lanl.gov
(John Curtis) says,

>>  I don't like using this metric, but management seems insistant
>>  that we use it for a while (until something better can be fully
>>  implemented).

Why not ask management for a scale balance and weigh the listings? This
has the advantage of being independent of source language. Assuming that
you are comparing like with like, eg compiler listings or straight print
file, and that you use the same weight paper on all printer there will be
high correlation between the lines of code and the weight of the listing.
If they will not buy you the scale then ask for a ruler and measure the
depth of paper again there will be a high correlation between lines of
code and listing height.

By this time management should have seen the stupidity of using this
metric and you can then persuade them of the efficacy the metric that
you think should be used instead.

None of the above is my work, why work when you can plagiarise? :-) I
stole the above from Beizer's ``Software Testing Techiniques''.

Trevor.
From: gossain@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Sanjiv Gossain)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: SEI Process Maturity Model
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:59:55 GMT
Distribution: comp.softwareeng
Organization: cpd


I'm trying to get hold of the SEI Process Maturity Model
but don't really know who to contact. Can anyone help in this???

thanks

sanjiv gossain

gossain@uk.tele.nokia.fi
Xref: sparky comp.software-eng:1768 sci.engr.civil:113
From: oliphant@cae.wisc.edu (Paul Oliphant)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,sci.engr.civil
Subject: Re: Mohr's Circle - for Mathematica?
Keywords: mathematica, mohr's circle, stress analysis
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:10:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr9.131014.3339
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison

> jarj_ss@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Joe Rosato) writes:
>I need to do some calculation's using Mohr's Circle, and was wondering if
>a program for mathematica has already been created to do this. All I wish
 [stuff deleted]

I recently recieved a copy of MiniTK Solver and as one of the example 
problems was Mohrs Circle.  MiniTK will not do graphics but the full 
blown software will.  MiniTK is a free version of TK Solver.
I got my copy for the Mac by calling Universal Technical Systems, 
Rockford, IL (815) 963-2220.  We have TK Solver Plus on our PC network
here.  An intro course in CE uses it for a few weeks.  You might try it. 
I do not use it much myself, however.  I just keep it working for the 
profs and students.

Paul

========================================================================
Paul Oliphant				Applications Manager
oliphant@engr.wisc.edu			Computer-Aided Engineering
(608) 265-2637				University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: pmcilroy@srd.bt.co.uk (Paul McIlroy)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Converting unix manual pages to rtf
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:53:36 GMT
Reply-To: pmcilroy@srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

Recently I have seen a number of articles in this news group asking 
for troff<==> LaTex and troff<==>RTF translators.  I was wondering if 
a simpler beast might exist, a program which could translate manual 
pages to RTF format.  Since the -man macros use only a small subset 
of troff's capabilities, I thought this sounded like an easier task 
than a full blown translator. Does anybody know of such a thing ?  
Many unix c utilities work just fine on a PC or Macintosh, but their 
documentation comes in troff -man format.  A utility to convert these 
to RTF (or other Word compatible format) would be really handy.

Paul McIlroy  (pmcilroy@srd.bt.co.uk).
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: weisen@daedalus.dcrt.nih.gov (Neil Weisenfeld)
Subject: Tutorial for mm wanted
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:41:21 GMT

Anyone have a tutorial or documentation for the mm macros? I was about
to write my own Memo macros based on ms, but if I could find docs for
the mm macros, I'd rather just use them. 

Thanks,
Neil


p.s. -- e-mail to me and I'll post a summary if I get any positive
responses.


--
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Endnotes and text in a graphic
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:02:24 GMT

Well, I have gone thru the Learning Framemaker book, and I am attempting
to write a thesis using Frame.  I have a color sun 3/60 (hey, I work for
Motorola :) and we're running Frame 2.1.  I am a novice, so excuse me if this
is an FAQ.

Anyway, I want have endnotes instead of footnotes.  All at the end of the
document on a page(s) of its own.  A have a little more flexibility in my
paper design since this is only a masters thesis.  Can frame do this?  If
so, can you tell me the steps?

Also, is this a bug or is it me?  I wanted to create a shadowed rectangle
in an anchored frame just as they do in the Learning Framemaker example.
The only difference is that I wanted to do it in landscape mode instead of
portrait.  So under Page I selected rotate page.  However when I started to
fill in the 2nd box, it disappeared.  It will not let me fill in the 2nd
box when the page OR the frame is rotated.  Works fine in portrait.  So I
just made all my shapes and symbols in portrait, and then rotated them and
placed them where I wanted.  

So with a graphic, whats the best way to add multiline words, such as

                   ----------------------------
                   |           This           |
                   |      text should be      |
                   |         centered.        |
                   ----------------------------


After you have created the shape?

Thanks in advance!

--Ken 
  p.s. we just got Frame 3.0.  Not installed yet.  Will this help me?

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: hkarhune@HYDRA.HELSINKI.FI (Heikki Karhunen)
Subject: Re: open dialogue box
Organization: Department of Theoretical Physics, University of Helsinki,
Distribution: inet
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:11:00 GMT

In article <9204141707.AA20076@wookie.dbaccess.com> cjones@wookie.dbaccess.COM (Carl Jones) wrote:
> I an using Frame on an AIX system on RS/6000s from an Xstation.
> When I click the OPEN box, I get an open dialogue window.
> I would like to be able to:
> 	make the font larger

The resource controlling this font (and the other contents of other dialogoues)
is (here is the default from $FMHOME/.fminit2.0/xresources/Maker):

Maker*XmDialogShell*fontList: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--12-*-iso8859-1

You can change it to a larger font, but then all of your dialogues will use
the larger font, and the space for buttons and what not is allocated with
the 12 point font in mind and 14 point font tends to be a bit too bulky for
the wee buttons. You have been warned.

The resource defining the font for the scroll list is:

Maker*XmDialogShell*XmList*fontlist: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--10-*-iso8859-1

> 	make the box larger
> 	assign the position of the box

It seems the open dialogue window's class is doc_open, but I was unable to
change its' appearance.

Ah, well... I never said I could do it all... :)

> in that priority order.
> I could not find any reference to ozptions for that box in the
> Frame manual (I did discover that some things could be modified
> in the .Xdefaults file.

Just add these resources (after you modify them a bit) to your .Xdefaults,
type:
 
	xrdb .Xdefaults

and learn to like your know fonts.....

> Can you help?  The box and font are really too small.
> thanks,
> carl jones

/-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------\
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| Heikki.Karhunen@helsinki.fi | physicist -- at least in theory.        |
\-----------------------------+-----------------------------------------/
From: matheys@online.cern.ch (Jean-Pol Matheys)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: FrameMaker 3.0 for DECstations ?
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:50:32 GMT
Reply-To: matheys@online.cern.ch
Organization: CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics


Dear Net,

Is FrameMaker 3.0 available for DECstations ? What about FrameViewer ?

I've put the question to Frame but didn't get a reply (yet).

--
Jean-Pol Matheys

CERN - European Laboratory for Particle Physics
ECP Division  /  Data-acquisition Systems Group
CH-1211 Geneva 23 - Switzerland

HEP DECnet   online::matheys
Internet     matheys@online.cern.ch
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Tel          +41.22.7674719
Telefax      +41.22.7677155
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: johnb@KBSS.BT.CO.UK (John Bayle)
Subject: Re: Importing PostScript file
Organization: The Internet
Distribution: inet
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:43:14 GMT

>     From: Cindy Sievers <sievers@agps.lanl.gov>
>     Message-Id: <9204101640.AA04619@topgun.agps.lanl.gov>
>     To: framers@agps.lanl.gov
>     Subject: Importing PostScript file
> 
>     This is my first time corresponding with this group so please 
>     bear with me....
> 
>     A PostScript file from a Framemaker document was created by "Printing 
>     only to file" from the File/Print menu.  Later, the original Framemaker
>     document was deleted (without a .backup but that's another story). 
>     Is it possible to convert that PostScript file back into a 
>     Framemaker Document?

Sorry to state the obvious, but if the platform is networked, perhaps
someone else (sysman) backed it up!

On the other hand, if it's mainly text and the platform is unix then:

grep '(.*)' | sed 's/^[^(]*(\([^)]*\)).*$/\1/' 

will get all the strings out. I'm sure someone else can refine this do
do even more! Note that a reverse-collating printout has pages reversed.

John Bayle				johnb@kbss.bt.co.uk
Ipswich UK
From: mley@acorn.co.uk (Martin Ley)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Unknown message in book file
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:43:42 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, UK

Guys,

Here's the reply I got from frame ages ago on this very subject...



From: Brenda Feltham <bgf@frame.com>
Message-Id: <9108212349.AA03522@laplaya.frame.com>
To: mley@acorn.co.uk
Subject: Frame 3.0 insults!
Cc: answer@laplaya.frame.com
Status: RO

Call # 27799

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Martin,

 
	Our department has just upgraded to Frame 3.0. On choosing:
        
 	       Generate/Update Files
 
	from a bookfile menu, Frame goes through the usual routines
	of scanning, saving and resolving X-Refs. At the end of all
	this it comes up with the message "Degenerate!".
 
	Now, call me old-fashioned, but a computer is not supposed
	to be privy to what I do in my private life.
 
Watch out for Big Brother!!!

	Seriously, I've RTFM and can't find anything that refers to
	this message when building bookfiles. Can someone please
	enlighten me (is it an instruction? an observation?)


When you get this error, save the book file. To avoid getting the error, 
save the book file before doing a generate. 

Thank you for your inquiry. We welcome comments and questions from our
customers regarding our product.

Regards,
Brenda Feltham
Frame Technical Support


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



Hope this helps

Martin Ley   mley@acorn.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: kcr@deneb.mlb.semi.harris.com (Keighley Ross)
Subject: Re: Framemaker gripes (long article)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:51:50 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <43365@as0c.sei.cmu.edu> ask@sei.cmu.edu (Alan Koch) writes:
>
>In article <1992Apr9.221223.16518@pony.Ingres.COM>, sstark@Ingres.COM (Scott Stark) writes:
>|> 
>|>      The following is an opinionated listing of various problems, gripes
>|>      and inadequacies discovered using Framemaker 3.0 for the Macintosh. 
>
>I MUST commend Scott for his gripes!  They are an EXCELLENT example of
>
>Frame; are you listening?  Read his gripes carefully!
>ask
>============================================================================

Indeed!

And I have only one quibble with your correction:

>|>           c.   "No insertion point."  This annoying message appears if you
>|>                choose Find and haven't clicked on the text in the active
>|>                file.  I can't think of any reason why you'd want to search
>|>                for something without first inserting the cursor.  Frame
>|>                should assume you want to search the active window without
>|>                requiring you to click on the text.
>
>  Since you can have many documents open at once, FrameMaker needs to know
>  which one to check.  I agree with their requirement for you to explicitly
>  tell the system where to look.

Even so, maker's response makes this situation more difficult than it
needs to be.  The user has to click OK on the error message, then
place the insertion point, then re-invoke the Find.  Why not allow
him to just place the insertion point, and have this do all three
actions (or hit a cancel button if the find was a mistake)?  If
window manager limitations make this impossible, maker could at least
provide a menu of the open documents on the error message; selecting
one of these would place the insertion point at the top of the first
flow on the current page and continue.

It's not so bad with Find, because it doesn't throw way the word you
asked to find when the insertion point is placed, but this same problem
comes up with Apply on the paragraph and character format boxes,
and some table operations.  There, however, when you DO place the
insertion point, any changes you've made to the menu are overwritten
by the characteristics of the text where you place it.

The whole pop-up alert box scheme for error messages strikes me as
overly punative; surely, there's a better way.

-------------------------------------- Keighley Ross ----------------
HH _  HH    kcr@mlb.semi.harris.com    Design Systems Development
H_/ |_HH      Opinions expressed       Harris Semiconductor
HH    HH      are solely my own.       Melbourne, Florida,
From: kemper@millelac.rhrk.uni-kl.de (Michael Kemper [Informatik])
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: FrameMaker 3.0 and Macintosh Quickdraw printers
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:05:07 GMT
Reply-To: kemper@millelac.rhrk.uni-kl.de (Michael Kemper [Informatik])
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern (Germany)

FrameMaker 2.1 on the Mac didn't print correctly on my GCC PLP II
(Quickdraw printer) because the kerning of some characters wasn't
correct. Is this problem solved in FrameMaker 3.0, or is there a
workaround for it? 

Thank you

|\/|ichael |<emper              +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
University of Kaiserslautern    + RENT THIS SPACE                             +
Germany	                        +                                             +
                                +                       (Nothing to disclaim) +
                                +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: webb+@CS.CMU.EDU (Jon Webb)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: TOC limitation
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:46:58 GMT
	<9204060941.AA21818@lassemaja.ansa.co.uk>
Distribution: inet
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: webb@DUCK.WARP.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <9204060941.AA21818@lassemaja.ansa.co.uk> rtor@ansa.co.UK (Owen Rees) writes:

   Another thing you can't do to get this effect is to use \r in an
   autonumber field. I wanted to be able to convert easily between two
   styles:

      Chapter 2

      Interaction Model

   and 

      2	Interaction Model

One (somewhat messy) way to do this is to put a bunch of forced spaces
at the end of the autonumber, which is positioned at the start of
paragraph. Just insert enough spaces to fill up the line and
"Interaction Model" will appear on the next line.

-- J
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: abw@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
Subject: Re: open dialogue box
Organization: Boston University
Distribution: inet
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:41:30 GMT

In article <83971@bu.edu> you write:
>From: cjones@wookie.dbaccess.com (Carl Jones)
>
>I an using Frame on an AIX system on RS/6000s from an Xstation.
>When I click the OPEN box, I get an open dialogue window.
>I would like to be able to:
>	make the font larger
>	make the box larger
>	assign the position of the box
>in that priority order.

I would be very intersted in what you learn on this point. I have been
meaning to look at the X resources on this but other things keep getting a
higher priority.

                      ---Al

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From: paul@iatge.uucp (Hansjuergen Paul)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Solution for saving ASCII correctly (Umlaut etc.)
Keywords: solution,  save text only, ASCII, 7-bit, 8-bit, CTRL
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:28:35 GMT
Organization: Institut Arbeit und Technik

Hi Framers,

here comes the solution for the complete saving (8-bit) via TEXT ONLY.
It's from Bo Kahler (kahler@delab.sintef.no) in Trondheim (Norway).

Before using the TEXT ONLY save routine you have to type

	<CTRL + r> <F> <t> <c>

to switch either from 7-bit to 8-bit or vice versa. Look at page1-104
in the reference guide of FrameMaker for additional information.

Bo wrote that there is a bug in this feature in FrameMaker 3.0,
presumably corrected in 3.1.

txttois1 is the filter to bring the ASCII text into ISO 8859.1 style
and unix2dos makes a DOS-File out of your ISO text.

A question to FrameMaker HQ: why did you hide this feature in a CTRL
sequence and didn't put an additional button in the save menu? At
least in the imaker version?

That's it. Thanks to all the people who helped us with that problem.

Best regards
	
			Hansjuergen Paul

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