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From: holloway@clio (Bryan Holloway)
Subject: Media Vision Pro AudioSpectrum 16
Summary: Reviews
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:51:25 GMT
Keywords: multimedia 16-bit media vision

Has anyone had any experience with Media Vision's AudioSpectrum 16?
I've been looking around for an inexpensive quality multimedia board
for some time, and ran across what could be a real gem.

It claims to have the following features:

1) True 16-bit 44.1kHz sampling.

2) MIDI compatiable (although you need this $60 MidiMate thing that
   connects to the board's "game port".

3) A SCSI connector for adding on CD-ROMs in other MultiMedia applications.

4) Dual on-board FM Synthesizers with 22 note stereo polyphony.

If anyone has worked with one of these boards, I have a couple of questions:

  Are the sampling inputs balanced or not?

  Did anyone acquire the MidiMate, and if so, how many I/O/T's does it
  provide?

  Is the SCSI connector truly useful?  Can I daisy chain a number of
  SCSI devices?  (In other words, would this replace a stand-alone SCSI
  interface?)

  What kind of audio outputs does it provide...differential or single-ended?

  Is the software that comes with any good?  and on a similar note, is
  there any third-party software available?  It claims to be compatible
  with SoundBlaster and AdLib software, although I don't really know what
  this implies.  I thought the SB and AL boards didn't do sampling.

For the price, this board seems superior to any other I've seen so far.
The only other decent 16-bit card I've seen is the one from TurtleBeach
for around $800.  I'd like any info from people who have used the board,
or anyone who could recommend an equally good card for a simliar price.

Thanks!!

						- bryan

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Newsgroups: comp.music
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Jim Miller Personal Composer question
From: terr05@v9.vitro.com
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:20:45 -0500
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Nntp-Posting-User: terrfk

Question: Does anypne have information on the Jim Miller Personal Composer.
	  I have heard of it and am looking for more details.
								Jim
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Help : Music File Formats.
From: ebolog@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (EDWIN BOLOGNA : THIRD)
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:57:31 +0200
Organization: Electronic Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, South Africa


If anyone has information or source code for decoding .MOD, .SAM, .SND,
.ROL, or any other good music format, could you please mail it to me.

Desperate fellow programmer.

	Please Assist.

		E.B. (EBOLOG@ELAINE.EE.UND.AC.ZA)
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: M02449@mwvm.mitre.org (Joe Gems)
Subject: Re: computer recommendation
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:03:07 GMT

In article <82930001@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com>
gates@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Bill Gates) writes:
 
>
>Could you folks perhaps tell me how much CPU a music scoring program can
>consume?  I'm in the market for a home computer, which will be used for
>music scoring and, of course, various games.  Can one of the higher clock
>rate 386 units handle something like Encore, or would a 486 be a better
>choice (where better = the increase in speed is noticable and necessary).
>
Depends on what you mean by "something like Encore" ...
Encore (and Finale and Music Prose and Music Time) are Windows packages;
therefore, the more CPU/hard disk/RAM the better.
I am presently evaluating a notation package called Songwright which runs
under DOS. Though I'm running it on a 486, it seems clear that it would run
just fine on any 386, even a 20MH SX. It might even run okay on a lowly 286.
My point, I guess, is that it's not so much the particular package as it is
its operating requirements. Any package needing Windows needs, by definition,
all the horsepower you can provide.
>Also, how much hard disk and RAM would be necessary for these applications?
>
IMHO, the minimum acceptable configuration for Windows is a 386 25MH machine,
with at least 4 MB of RAM, and at least 80-100MB of hard disk (MickySoft's
recommendations notwithstanding!
  Hope this helps!
 
>Thanks,
>Bill
  Welcome.
    Joe
Xref: sparky comp.music:4142 rec.music.makers:9027 rec.music.synth:13590
From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Very Much Re: Scope and content of this group (read before posting!)
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:49:03 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


When you read the original charter for comp.music, it easy to see why alot
of folks are frustrated by the majority of subject threads in this group.
But I'm afraid that that's what you get when you name a newsgroup so
ambiguiously.  "Computer music" means alot of different things to alot of
different people.

Skeptical?  For another example of what happens when you name something
ambiguously, change directory to /etc, and do an "ls".

David.
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: cjg@cray.com (Chris Gennaula)
Subject: Re: Scope and content of this group (read before posting!)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:17:41 CDT

>I participated in the original discussion for this newsgroup, voted for
>it, and have subscribed to it ever since.  This is the first time that
>I've heard it claimed that discussion of sound synthesis techniques are
>out of bounds.
>		-Ed Hall
>		edhall@rand.org

Thank you.  I've been reading this group for 4 years now and I
always assumed that sound synthesis techniques was a core-subject
of this group.  I thought perhaps I had been reading this group
for the wrong subject matters, but where else could such discussions
go?

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From: fnsjc@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Scope and content of this group (read before posting!)
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:24:10 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I am relaltively new to computers and to this group.  I recently 
bought a computer (a PC clone) to run music notation software
(Finale).  I am interested in all discussions of music notation 
software and specifically in Finale since I keep running into
odd little difficulties and roadblocks while I am learning to use
it.  I am a little unsure whether such discussions are welcome here
since I am not concerned with "music research", but neither am I
concerned with synthesizers or the "recreational" use of computers
in music.  Being one of only two users of Finale in Fairbanks (or
in Alaska, as far as I can figure out) I would like to have access
to larger group discussions on the topic.  
                 
I was also interested in the discussion of John Cage's 4'33"!  I 
hope there will always be a little room for occasional philosophical
digressions (I find it easy to skip the topics that I am not 
interested in).
From: rwk@netcom.com (Robert W. Kemner)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: SB Pro, Yamaha MIDI keyboard for sale
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:16:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


Yamaha PSS-590 keyboard                                      $ 150
  1 year old, but hardly used.  All manuals included.
  Supports MIDI.  Includes power adaptor.

Soundblaster Pro                                             $ 150
  Less than 4 months old.  Complete with all manuals 
  and software.

If you are interested, please send e-mail to rwk@netcom.com.
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: s9058281@rkw-risc.cs.up.ac.za ()
Subject: Re: MOD file format
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:37:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pretoria, South Africa

Steve.Roehrs@f861.n681.z3.fidonet.org (Steve Roehrs) writes:

> > From: patricio@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (PATRICIOS M P)
> > Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Undergrads).

> > Does anybody know the format of a MOD file. I have been working on
> > some
> > sound routines and would like to write a MOD editor. I have figured
> > out a
> > bit of the format, but it would be a great help if someone could tell
> > me the
> > exact format.

>If you get information on this, could you please forward it to me at

>9064107d@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au
>or
>Steve Roehrs @ fidonet 3:681/861

>Thankyou,

>Steve

Would you also please forward this information to 
  9058281@rkw-lan.cs.up.ac.za

Thank you !

> * Origin: The Clipboard, Salisbury Heights, South Australia (3:681/861)
From: levitt@wupost.wustl.edu (- Summer HS Coop)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: ModEdit 3.0
Date: 12 Aug 1992 08:24:08 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: informatics.wustl.edu
Summary: Does anyone know where ModEdit 3.0 is(if its out yet?)
Keywords: modedit new 3.0 composing help

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew if ModEdit 3.0 is out yet?  Or if not,
when it is coming out?  Its supposed to support mouse and realtime recording,
all kinds of cool stuff.  So if anyone has info on this or any other piece of
shareware to do the same thing, please reply!

Scott Levitt
levitt@informatics.wustl.edu

p.s. a reply would be wonderful!
From: debra@wsinis07.info.win.tue.nl (Paul De Bra)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: summary on Score vs Encore
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:10:24 GMT
Reply-To: debra@info.win.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands


As promised a summary (very brief) of the replies to my query about
the possible relationship between Encore (sold by Passport) and Score
(until recently also sold by Passport).

Here's what i got.

Paul.
(debra@win.tue.nl)

**********

You can not compare the two programs.  Score is a true engraving
program used by publishers and high powered music notation desk top
publishing people.  Encore is more like a word processor.  Sure Encore is
MUCH easier to use and get something out.  But Score is the way to go if
you want complete control over all the graphics and to get publishing
quality output.  Encore is made by Passport, Score was sold by Passport,
but its author Leland Smith bought the program back.  Version 3.1 will be
out soon.  Version 4 will be for windows (RUMOR -- maybe) .  You can get
a copy of the program from lcs@ccrma.stanford.edu.  I can provide tech
assistance tka@ccrma.stanford.edu.(volunteer)

You're welcome
-tka@ccrma.stanford.edu

*******

info to your request in comp.music (24-07-92):

I heard about Score:
     "Score can do e v e r y thing even what a modern composer wants
         (with special symbols, non standard notation,...)"

I haven't heard anything about Encore.

I saw a result of Score (classical music) and I think it was perfect.
But I don't know how complicated is Score to use for a "normal" user.

Friedbert     (huber@inf.ethz.ch)

***********
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: mds8539@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael David Slater         )
Subject: Cooperative Education   
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:03:34 GMT

I am an undergraduate electrical engineer at Texas A&M University.
I would like to find or develop a Cooperative-Education
position with the research department of an electronic musical        
equipment developer.  
 
Both the Texas A&M Co-op Department and myself have extensive
references and documentation to provide to interested groups.

If you are aware of existing programs, possible contacts, or
any information that might assist me, please contact me at
   'mds8539@tamuts.tamu.edu'.

Thank you for your time.



Newsgroups: comp.music
From: 092133@adpdp2.lanl.gov (092133)
Subject: Wanted Kurzweil K-250
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, EMVAX
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:21:00 GMT

A friend who does not have access to the net asked me to post the following. 
Please respond directly to him at the address below, NOT to my em address.

Dinosaur wanted:  Kurzweil K-250(B) fully loaded or rack version or sound
modules.  Proteus sound modules.  Will pay cash and COD.   

Thank you,
Paul-David Fletcher
832 East Palace, Suite D
Santa Fe, NM 87501
Evenings: (505) 982-2015
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: xxrich@alliant1.lerc.nasa.gov (Rich Rinehart)
Subject: Re: Scope and content of this group (read before posting!)
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:20:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.013641.23021@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>In article <3714@randvax.rand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
>>Ahem.
>>
>>I participated in the original discussion for this newsgroup, voted for
>>it, and have subscribed to it ever since.  This is the first time that
>>I've heard it claimed that discussion of sound synthesis techniques are
>>out of bounds.
>>
[stuff bye bye]
>>
>>		-Ed Hall
>
>Absolutely! rec.music.synth is not an appropriate board for disscussions
>such as the one cited above because on the whole that group is concerned
>almost exclusively with the commercial synthesizers, notation-software
>and midi-sequencers. It is usally more of a trade page with product-reviews

Hugh??  I don't know what you guys are talking about.  All I know is that
I've been following both groups (and .makers) and that there is total overlap.
Actually, comp.music has been more "amateurish" than the others, IMHO. (flame
away..)

If anybody can do anything to make more rhyme and reason to the topics covered
within the groups,  then power to them!!

-- 
Rich Rinehart (xxrich@alliant1.lerc.nasa.gov) |     
NASA Lewis Research Center |    "Life if one big editing session" -rr
Cleveland, OH              | "Technology changes everthing...even our dreams"
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: sekhar@geronimo.sps.mot.com (The Phantom of the Night)
Subject: MIDISOFT
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Reply-To: sekhar@geronimo.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:22:34 GMT

I don't know if this is the write place to post this or not, but here goes:

Has anyone ever heard of a program for WINDOWS (for the pc) called MIDISOFT?
If so, is it any good?  Is it worth the price?

Please reply by e-mail to sekharn@hkn.berkeley.edu   .

Thanks in advance.



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From: sdpage@andersen.co.uk (Stephen Page)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Very Much Re: Scope and content of this group (read before posting!)
Date: 16 Aug 92 11:14:20 GMT
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)

dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell) writes:
>But I'm afraid that that's what you get when you name a newsgroup so
>ambiguiously.  "Computer music" means alot of different things to alot of
>different people.

Yes, I quite agree -- the field was a lot narrower a few years ago, when the
group was named.

But -- look at the description in the "official" newsgroups file which the
Usenet feed carries:
    comp.music	Applications of computers in music research.

It's hard to see how "I want this patch to play cool theme music" fits
into this. However, it is easier to see how "I am doing some research on
waveforms and their effect on perception" or "I need to find a notation
package capable of printing 17th century lute tablature" is more aptly
described in the above line. I also agree that algorithmic composition
fits in here (but it also fits in with rec.music.compose, rec.music.synth,
etc, depending on the techniques and technology used).

These kinds of debates break out regularly over Usenet; it is often challenging
to find a way to organise free expression into a Usenet-like hierarchy, short
of moderation (which I see no need for in this group; there are already
moderated digests on research, ethnomusicology, electronic music, etc).

I suspect a guide to music groups might not be a bad idea. I also suspect
that a separate group on music notation systems might be warranted, as this
is a prime case of questions being split up across the groups (it's even
turned up in the new rec.music.compose, to add yet another place to look)
as this seems to be of great interest to many people, now that the technology
is maturing.

Just some more ideas for the pool...
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Scope and content of this group (read before posting!)
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:24:21 GMT
Organization: The RAND Corporation

Ahem.

I participated in the original discussion for this newsgroup, voted for
it, and have subscribed to it ever since.  This is the first time that
I've heard it claimed that discussion of sound synthesis techniques are
out of bounds.

It sounds like someone is trying to impose the charter of the
Music-Research Digest on comp.music.  That won't wash.

Anyone who thinks postings like Christopher Penrose's granular synthesis
instruments belong in rec.music.synth instead of here has a serious
misunderstanding of why many of us voted for it in the first place.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
From: risto@tuura.UUCP (Risto Lankinen)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: QUESTION: How to get frq from MIDI note on/off message
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:57:50 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: ICL Data Oy

Hi!

I have seen, but since forgotten a formula for the frequency of the
sound produced, given the parameters of MIDI note on/off/aftch, the
current pitch bender setting and the base frequency.

Yes, I do know that 'frq = 2^(noteval/12) * K', where K is a constant
value derived from the base frequency.  It's the bender value that I'm
having the trouble with, in fitting into the formula.

Any help is appreciated...

terveisin: Risto Lankinen
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: s2859479@techst02.technion.ac.il (Yaron Keren)
Subject: MT32L to General Midi
Reply-To: s2859479@techst02.technion.ac.il (Yaron Keren)
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 15:54:13 GMT

I have written a PC driver that translates (sort of *) from general midi
to Yamaha HS-7. To expand the driver abilty to emulate the Roland MT32L,
I'm interested in the translation table from Roland MT32L instruments
to general midi. 
The instrument list of MT32L is also welcome (I have general midi list).

* The Yamaha HS-7 is an Electronic Organ with max of two polyphonic,
three monophonic channels and percussion, general midi wants 8 poly.
channels and percussion...

Please email any list or if you wish to get the list (when I'll have it).

Yaron
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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: smill@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: HMSL & MAX
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 05:04:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.023300.2669@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> diarmuid@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Diarmuid Pigott) writes:
>This might sound a trifle trad., but how easy is it to (say) enter one
>of Bach's suites for unaccompanied 'cello with HMSL or Max. With Adagio
>and Ravel it is straightforward, if a little time-consuming. However,
>one can score a piece with a standard sequencer programme, and
>transcribe it to ravel, and then manipulate it to the heart's content.
>
>How easy is it to do this in either of the other two?
>

	Neither HMSL nor MAX are designed as score editors in that sense.
They are both intended to be composition/performance environments for
developing original material, be it MIDI, DSP, video, graphics, multi-
media, or what-have-you.  I don't know about MAX (comments anyone??), but
HMSL does include standard MIDI sequencing tools, as well as a score 
language intended for "standard" 12-tone equal tempered music.
	If you want a score editor/printing program, you're barking
up the wrong tree with HMSL/MAX.

>quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>> I'd still like to hear more about
>: Ravel and HMSL for that matter.
>
>Ravel is quite wonderful. I have used it a fair bit, but now I've move
>to a laptop with a Key Midiator I have had to wait till I can recompile
>it with the new drivers. I find the tools available are great.
>(randoming etc).
>
>


-- 
Steven M. Miller		"The history of music evolution is
smill@polari.online.com		 not the history of nice guys"
smill@online.com			-- Anthony Braxton
smill%polari@online.com
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: johnd@lloyd.Camex.COM (John Duesenberry)
Subject: Re: Granular synthesis intruments
Keywords: granular synthesis, csound, little-itty-bitty-quanta-of-sound
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:14:35 EDT

I'd like to see some granular synthesis Csound instruments too, whether
they use FOF or not. A good Csound hangout is the Berklee BBS, do
you know it? Although I haven't seen any granular synthesis stuff
up there.
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: bil@cmn16.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
Subject: Re: Scope and content of this group (read before posting!)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:22:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.163048.1555@lloyd.Camex.COM> johnd@lloyd.Camex.COM  
(John Duesenberry) writes:
> Why the *&^!!@!! shouldn't "sound generation techniques,
> composition, MIDI,synthesizers..." be discussed here?????

I think it's how you present it -- if you use fancy words like
"information retrieval systems" then it's ok, but if you call it
"general requests for information" then it's recreational.  I'd
like to know what "tertiary music education" is, and why 
music printing counts as serious research but sound generation
techniques don't.
From: oriordains@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: HELP with pvoc please ??!!
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:28:09 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

Hello, 
I've been trying to compile the phasevocoder part of Cmusic on my NeXT 
(release 2.2) and I've come up with the linking problem below. I did an 'ar t' 
on the library libcarl.a and found the object files below in them. Could ANYONE 
who has this ported on the NeXT already shine some light on this for me PLEASE. 
Thanks in advance.

Seosamh O'Riordain.
ORIORDAINS@ul.ie
-------------

/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:
_arg_option
_sfexpr						<---- sfexpr.o in libcarl.a
_crack						<---- crack.o in libcarl.a
_getheader					<---- getheader.o in libcarl.a
_noautocp
_getprop					<---- getprop.o in libcarl.a
_arg_index
_read_func_file
_addprop					<---- addprop.o in libcarl.a
_rmprop						<---- rmprop.o in libcarl.a
_cpoheader
_putheader					<---- putheader.o in libcarl.a
_fflushfloat					<---- fflushfloat.o in libcarl.a
_fputfloat					<---- fputfloat.o in libcarl.a
_fb
_set_sample_size
_finitbuf					<---- finitbuf.o in libcarl.a
*** Exit 1
Stop.
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