HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zcjm0f@nvplota.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Rice vs. Baylor (was: Re: Trevor Cobb 6, Lloyd Hill 0)
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:13:19 GMT


>> Tom Scudder                    tomscud@ruf.rice.edu
>> "It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
>> cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
>> "Hit it."
>
>..and the witty signature helps, though I am not purporting myself to 
>be the second coming of the woofing gods gift to the world.  
>
>Is the Rice game at Baylor?  If so, I wonder if Rice will look as slow
>on the natural turf as they did in Durham...

Don't you just love it when your ignorance shines like the sun!!!

Baylor plays on turf...  and I bet you don't run very fast in a quagmire
either.


>
>--
>************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
>Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
>Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
>*******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******

cmuck

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Aggie winning streak ------>   9   and counting
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: m1d4783@tamsun.tamu.edu (michael denison)
Subject: Re: Where is C John Mace?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:13:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.220257.25564@newsgate.sps.mot.com> gpb@gpb-mac. (greg berryman ) writes:
>>Travis (TK) Koock is looking for an old college buddy, C John Mace.
>>He was last thought to be in the Houston area doing some kind of
>>System Admin/programming work.

>If you know where he is, pass the address below on to him or let me know
>how to get in touch with him.  I'll pass it along to Travis.

I think he's sulking alone near the bottom of Chris Stassen's
r.s.f.c. pool. :)

-- 
 "You know what they say about men with *large* vocabularies...."
michael d. denison                          m1d4783@tamsun.tamu.edu
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Which one of these quarterbacks should get the Heisman
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:04:02 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:


>		Comp Att Pct  Yards Yard/Game TD
>	QB A    176  308 57%  2084    232     11
>	QB B    137  261 52%  1823    217     13

>Above are this years' stats of two of this country's finer college quarterbacks.
>One is recognized as the leader in the race for the Heisman Trophy, while one
>has gone largely unrecognized.  Which one SHOULD be the Heisman favorite?


Neither one!! Lloyd Hill deserves the Heismann, 'nuff said!!
He leads the nation in yds rec/game and is in the top 5 in the other
categories. If he were playing at Miami, Michigan, or some other
highly respected school, then maybe he'd be a lock.
>QB B is Gino Toretta.  QB A is darkhorse Heisman candidate "Dandy" Dan 
>Freiburger of SMU.  Let's take a closer look at the two QB's.



>Especially after he rolls it up on Texas this weekend.

Geez, you guys win a couple of lousy games and all hell breaks loose!
And, I know, SMU has won more games than Texas Tech! Maybe if we
replaced Oklahoma on our schedule with Tulane, we'd have a better
record.

-Jeff (Thank God Lady Raider basketball is just around the corner) Seale
 

>GT
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:39:56 GMT
	<BxK3IJ.8xp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: American Math. Society

In article <BxK3IJ.8xp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (William P. Jones) writes:

   >In article <1992Nov11.132751.4957@news.nd.edu>, 
   >rszczerb@okeefe.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes...
   >> 
   >>I'd like to hear some opinions from loyal Canes fans out there. 
   >> 
   >>If Alabama stumbles and the rest of the top ten remains the same, do
   >>you think the Mighty Canes will play an undefeated Texas A&M team
   >>in the Cotton Bowl or, "chicken out" and play a once beaten Cornhusker
   >>team in their home stadium?

 >I'm anything but a cane fan but it's obvious that Miami would choose to play 
 >Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl because, even though unbeaten, A&M is nowhere near 
 >the team that Nebraska is. Just look at any of the power rating systems that 
 >take into account strength of opposition. Sagarin has Nebraska # 1 and A&M much 
 >lower. The interesting posibility occurs if both Alabama and Texas A&M lose. 
 >Will Miami stay home to play Nebraska or go to the Fiesta Bowl to play ND, the 
 >team they claim to want to play so badly. 


After watching A&M play Houston High School last night, I have to
agree that playing A&M in a bowl would be really chickening out.



-Alan Harder
 
These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tino@ray.metray (Vinny Tino)
Subject: Washington State
Reply-To: tino@ray.metray
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 15:23:23 GMT

Gee, y'all notice that them folks aren't hootin for them there WSU Coyotes (I 
mean Cougars) anymore.  What fans...Gotta love 'em... I sure hope UWash never
loses two games.  I'd hate too see all those great Washington high school 
players come to Florida State..

---
------------------ Vincent Tino - Studentus Graduatus Perpetuus ---------------
----------------- Dept. of Meteorology, Florida State University --------------
-------------------- Meteorologists like it warm and wet! ---------------------
*************************------- GO SEMINOLES -------**************************
============================ tino@ray.met.fsu.edu =============================

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman)
Subject: Re: Udub??  What is a "udub"???
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:00:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.071608.1@ducvax.auburn.edu> swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.151715.7543@makesys.com>, john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>> BTW is this the reason Arizona kicked Udubs ASS this weekend? UW is the best
>                                        ^^^^^
>
>Ok, we learned what a "t-sip" was a few months ago, what the heck does
>"udub" mean??  I know it is a some sort of Washington put-down, but
>where/how did it originate?
>
>Just curious.....
>
>-- 
>David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu 

It's not a put down at all.  It's just short for U.W. ("U"-"double U").
From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bowl Game for Michigan State?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:17:17 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

From what I've been reading, the bowl that is supposed to take the 2nd
place team from the Big 10 (Citrus?) has an out clause that allows them
to take a lower placed team if the 2nd place team doesn't have at least
8 wins. This would explain why Ohio State looks like a cinch for the
Citrus Bowl.

The Holiday Bowl is committed to the 3rd place Big 10 team, but they
also have an out clause, which I think functions on the same 8 wins
assumption, but allows them to skip the conference altogether. From
what I've been reading, they seem to be likely to take a Big 10 team
at 6-5 in order to maintain a good relationship with the Big 10 (Big
10 plays lousy football, but sends lots of fans to bowls and is good
for television revenue). The Big 10 is reminding them that the sent
them a 10-1 team (Iowa) last year, and saying that it would be best
if they took the bad with the good.

--
 David Nichols        Senior Statistical Support Specialist         SPSS, Inc.
 Phone: (312) 329-3684     Internet:  nichols@spss.com     Fax: (312) 329-3657
*******************************************************************************
 Any correlation between my views and those of SPSS is strictly due to chance.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
Subject: Re: Wolfpack vs. Wahoos summary (Short)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:57:51 GMT

Well I don't have the stats sitting right here with me, but I
seem to remember the Cavaliers beating NCSU in every category,
except turnovers, and return yards.  This is not surprising to
someone who watched the game.  The Wolfpack only managed 10
points off "sustained drives."  Big plays contributed for the
rest of the scoring.  One touchdown came off a blocked punt.
One came on a 40+ yard scamper on the pitchout (which we have
note been able to stop all year).  Finally, the last of the big
plays was a long 40+ yard touchdown pass which burned the
squeezably soft Virginia secondary.  Thus we here at UVa take
some consolation from the game.  Don't worry, I am not trying
to take anything away from an excellent NCSU team which finally
decided to utilize it's talent against a team which has owned
them for 6 years.  Congratulations on the win, and on being in
second place in the conference.  If you guys do manage to hold
on and beat Duke (no problem), and Wake Forest (a team with a
fire in their hearts who will give you more trouble than Ga
Tech), I bid you good luck in the Gator bowl against a worthy
opponent.  I also demand that you represent the ACC better than
we did in that same bowl last year.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Billy Joe Hobert
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:46:11 GMT

chyang@anaphora.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:



>	Anyone knows what is the PAC-10 ruling on Hobert and the Huskies?

No ruling yet out of the Pac-10 offices on whether UW
has to forfeit their games that Hobert played in.  No ruling
from UW yet either on when and IF Hobert will ever get
to play for UW again.

allen
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Nole Power!
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:16:14 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division


Alright, someone has to mention the Seminole massacre this past Saturday.
69-21 over Maryland.  Granted it was Maryland and it was in Tallahassee for
homecoming, but still, FSU never punted (the one punt was nullified by a
Maryland penalty).  Eight hundred some yards of offense!  This is a sign
of things to come for FSU when next season they have a deep and experienced
offensive line.  And the defense should still be fairly strong even with
the losses to the NFL.  All I can say is ACC, you've seen what's coming.
Better use the year between now and then wisely!  GO NOLES!

Two other asides:

	1.  Happy Birthday Bobby Bowden! (63 on Nov. 8)

	2.  I know it's not the place, but the college basketball
	    rankings are out:  Florida State is #8 there.  Michigan
	    and Arizona are the only other two schools with both
	    top ten football and basketball teams.

GO NOLES!!  GO NOLES!!  GO NOLES!!  GO NOLES!!  GO NOLES!!  GO NOLES!! GO NOLES!!  

D. Head
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 19:08:11 CST
From: <U32431@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject:       Michigan '93

Would someone send me the Blue Team's '93 schedule.  I know it was posted a
while back, but I did not commit it to memory.  Thanks.
Xref: sparky rec.sport.football.college:18937 alt.licker.store:34
From: franklir@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ryan J Franklin )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,alt.licker.store
Subject: Re: Apple Cup (was Re: Washington vs. Arizona)
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:51:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov9.011336.27053@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley ) writes:
>DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM! states that Pullman games are clear
>violations of NeoMarxist principles and also economically
>suppress those proletarians in need of semiotic neuroimplants...
>
>Otherwise, this thread has no purpose on alt.licker.store.
>
>Please keep all comments on alt.licker.store to the discussion
>of DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM! and read the FAQ if you have any
>other questions.

You have obviously forgotten that no one cares about dialectical
materialism, let alone DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM!, and that there is
no FAQ, let alone a purpose, to this newsgroup.  None whatsoever.
Go ahead.  Try and find one.  You won't, it doesn't exist.
 
Therefore, we're left with two options.  Either no thread has a purpose
on alt.licker.store, or ANY thread can.  
 
	-- Ryan Franklin
	   franklir@gas.uug.arizona.edu
From: stassen@alc.com (Chris Stassen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beano Baker???
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:42:00 GMT
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose

Roger Dendy writes:
> Have you ever seen Beano Cook and James Baker at a party together?

odagleD niveK replies:
> Hey Lee!!! You told me it was that Stassen guy....now I'm confused, dammit.

Well, *that* would explain why "Beano" picked Ohio State to win the
national championship a few years ago...
--
Chris Stassen			408-943-0630			stassen@alc.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: steinse@eng.auburn.edu (Scott E. Steinbrink)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bama
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:49:53 GMT
Reply-To: steinse@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett) writes:

>>13-0
>>BAMA
>>National Champions

>>it all just sounds so good!!!!

Not from here in Auburn. B) B)

Scott Steinbrink
WAR BUFFALO!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: It just can't be....
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:57:08 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov10.022730.1886@u.washington.edu> apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman) writes:

| But, congrats to Miami, they deserve it!  They've got the 
| inside track on the MNC.  I just hope the Huskies are *playing* on 
| New Year's Day!  (say it ain't so, Billy Joe!)

With all the BS removed.  I have been watching and reading so much
Washington football, that I was starting to think they were a local team. ;) 

I can even relax when Erickson puts in the 2nd team in the last few min.,
if we are up by 30.  

 Good Luck, Washington.  
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Glen Mason to Ohio State?
Organization: American Math. Society
	<1992Nov11.145152.13147@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:53:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.145152.13147@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi) writes:

  >|> under Cooper.  You don't fire a guy after his best year.  Granted, he may
  >|> decide to leave on his own, but I'd say that's a pretty slim possibility
  >|> right now.  He doesn't strike me as a quitter (USC game a few years ago
  >|> excepted :-)).
  >|>

Didn't they fire Earl Bruce after his best year?
 
  >|> This leads me to wonder.  How is the mood in Columbus right now regarding
  >|> Cooper?  Are people still all over his case or are they just waiting with
  >|> bated breath for the next loss so they can scream bloody murder once more?
  >|> I'd like to think that if the Buckeyes were able to go 9-3 that people would
  >|> lay off his case for awhile.
  >|> 
  >|> --
   >I have been one of those you has slammed Ohio State on occasion and I still
   >feel Ohio State will never reach a consistant level under Coach Cooper,
   >however this team is playing better and could well be 9-2 going into a
   >bowl game. If this team gets by Indiana, I feel they will beat Michigan at
   >home, this team will self motivate itself for the Michigan game and they
   >defenitly have the talent to beat them. 

The statement "If this team gets by Indiana" and "they defenitly (sic)
have the talent to beat them." are mutually exclusive.  Michigan
crushed Indiana.  If you're worried about Indiana, I wouldn't even
bother hoping to beat Michigan.  That Minne-haha game shouldn't give
you much confidence either.


-Alan Harder
 
These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!
From: ds4@soc7.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Torretta for the Heisman?
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:42:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.232523.7490@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, djt2445@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
|> Jeez, why? He's not even the best QB in his own conference, for crying out
|> loud!
|> 
|> I mean, Marvin Graves, Glen Foley, even Alex Van Pelt have to be better QB

If you are going only by rating (which it seems like you are doing), you do not
understand football much.  Out of the four quarterbacks in question, Torretta has
the most inexperienced line protecting him, and the weakest running game.  This
means that Torretta is not only forced to throw alot, but under a great deal of
pressure. The fact that he is doing this well in that situation, and in crunch
time, he always comes through (just ask FSU) is what makes him a great
quarterback.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: hyde@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Hyde)
Subject: Re: Some comments
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:44:56 GMT

grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham) writes:

>It may be heresy to say this, but a good reason not to have a national
>playoff system is that it's just not that important.  College football
>should be done for the advantage of the players and schools involved.  It's
>not clear that there'd be an advantage, and I think there'd be a
>disadvatnage, if you destroyed the bowl system in the process.

>Now, you may say, "what about basketball?"  Well, the NCAA tournament is
>the bowl system of college basketball.

WHAT ABOUT DIVISION 2 and 3 football? NCAA Division 1 football is the only 
college sport that does not have a clear cut NC through some sort of playoff!!



>It a) has a certain amount of
>tradition & b) allows many schools to participate.  You can't have a
>realistic football championship without restricting it to 2 or 4 teams.
>Even at 4, you'd probably have to destroy the bowl system.  This sort
>of thing should not happen just to satisfy the desires of a bunch of
>people not involved with the colleges who want to "know" who is the best.

>Jon


Go Huskers! With the season of domineering non conference foes that Nebraska
has to face year in and out, they will almost always end with 1 or 2 losses 
which will keep them out of the tourney anyhow even if they ARE playing
at a level deserving of participation at this point in every season... ;^) 

*I am going to point out the obvious sarcasm in the above statement for those
who are blind so I don't generate a bunch of followups...*

Oh, and listening to the radio commentators on the Nebraska Football Network
during the game, they made a good observation. Kenny Wilhite, an NU secondary
player gets sweet revenge by intercepting another KU pass in this game, 1 year
after THE knee injury last year in the KU game while returning his 2nd pass
interception. Last year he blew his knee without contact. Maybe this is the 
secret? Get tackled before you can make a cut??


-Don Hyde
From: jdng90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gorsuch JDN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Re: British College League
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:59:20 GMT


  Here are the results I know of weeks #1,#2 and #4 of the British
Student American Football League, I tried to post them yesturday but
for some reason they didn't get through. 


Week #1, 
     Stirling   14  Strathclyde 7 

Week #2,
     Teeside     1  Stirling    0
     Strathclyde 1  Newcastle   0 
       

Week #4, ( 7/8 Nov 1992 ) 
     Leeds        44  Sheffield     26
     Teeside      13  Hull           6
     Paisley      32  Stirling      32
     Lancaster     0  Sunderland     1 
     Southampton  52  Bristol        0
     Leicester    19  Warwick        0
     Loughborough 41  Staffordshire  0
     Cambridge    20  Aston         14
     East Anglia  50  Reading        0
      
  This data is taken from 'First Down', published 12/11/92. The league
tables posted yesturday were generated from the results printed in FD
over the last two weeks, I apologise for any errors or omissions, and
will be happy to include any corections in my next posting. 

                jon ( jdng90@uk.ac.soton.ecs ) 

 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: salas@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Miguel Salas)
Subject: Re: What's the Bowl picture?
 
Organization: Naval Research Lab, Washington, DC
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:41:40 GMT
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: It just can't be....
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:37:11 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <CfA=Ak+@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
> still win the PAC-10.  Is there any reason that we should feel ashamed 
> because we lost to a team that have been focusing on this game for the
> past two or three years.  No!  Should we take back any thing we said on

 2 or 3 years? Wanna run that by me again please.... exactly why have the
cats been "focusing on this game" for 2-3 years???




			gln



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: SEC East shoots itself in the foot
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:55:06 GMT

In article <BxHL5D.M2C@encore.com>, jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) writes:
|> | >  BTW, Miami beat the suds out of the Tide in the 1990 Sugar Bowl.
|> | >  Alabama coach Bill Curry stated that Bama " Never had control of the 
|> | >  game, and Miami's got to be # 1."  The next morning, the voters of
        
  Most college coaches try to outdo the other in compliments...

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: hemiola@leland.Stanford.EDU (e. shen)
Subject: Re: Trouble at the UDub
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:50:46 GMT



Say it ain't so, Billy Joe.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox)
Subject: Re: MS State, Florida, Bama
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:58:43 GMT

dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:



>>Think Jackie can castrate an elephant?

>I dunno.  I did see him on the practice field today with a chain saw. :-)


Maybe that is why they have put up all of that faux-fencing around
the practice fields.  They don't want everyone to see the
deed being done.

Jennifer