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From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: SLIP and ODI
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:12:47 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California

In article <BxvKov.8LD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> declan@scout (Declan Fleming) writes:
>donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>>If you're going to run NetWare over a phone line, you should copy all
>>the NetWare utilities you plan to use to your PC's local hard disk.
>
>Gotcha - but  ---  What real use is a server if I can't run the
>applications on it?  I can get to data, ok, but I don't want all the
>apps on my home machine.

This is a very, very good question that everyone considering using
dialup connections to a NetWare network (or any other environment
that's used heavily for file sharing) should ask themselves quite
earnestly.  On a LAN, bandwidth is much easier to get than disk space,
so usage patterns tend towards techniques which use bandwidth to
preserve disk space.  In a dialup environment, the scales tip the other
way: disk space is much easier to come by than bandwidth.  To make good
use of such a facility, your usage patterns must adapt accordingly.

There are basically two extremes you can take.  One is to continue
connecting directly, using your home PC as a NetWare client, and reduce
your network usage to the bare minimum, like only copying data files
back and forth.  This might work well if you have some database
application -- a mail reader, for example -- that can be executed from
the local disk and then taught to go to the network to access its
database only as needed.  The other end of the spectrum is to use your
home PC as a dumb terminal and dial into some kind of access server,
thus automatically reducing your bandwidth use to the transfer of
keyboard input and screen updates.  This cuts off your hardware at home
from direct use by the network OS, but otherwise works out fairly well.

Which approach you take depends entirely on what you're trying to
accomplish, although, i must admit, for general NetWare use i think
the access server approach tends to work out better.  Most network
applications were implemented under the same assumption about the
cheapness of bandwidth.  Many use bandwidth much more heavily than you
might anticipate.

Once the fiber's strung, you can go back to acting like you're on a LAN.

						don provan
						donp@novell.com
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From:         Dave Kearns <DKEARNS.TCC@KLAVEN.TCI.COM>
Subject:      Re: X-Windows Software for ODI

-R> Is their anybody who is using any kind of X-Windows software on a PC
-R> running ODI. If yes I am after some advice for that.
-R>
-R>
-R> Riyad Ahmad                                       Phone: (03) 819-8948
-R> Computer Systems Administartor                      Fax: (03) 819-8264
-R> School of Mechanical & Manufacturing Engineering
-R> Computer Integrated Manufacturing
-R> Swinburne University of Technolgy
-R> John Street                        E-mail:Riyad@mechman.mm.swin.EDU.AU
-R> Melbourne, Australia                   or:    Riyad@stan.xx.swin.OZ.AU
-R> ======================================================================

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We're using PCXview (DOS) and X11AT (Windows).......

-dave

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:41:16 -0600
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From:         kellmeyer steven l <kellmeye@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NE2000

In bit.listserv.novell you write:

>Is there anyone out their using a Novell NE2000 for IP transmission?

>If you can help us get it going with Clarkson packet drivers and NCSA telnet.

>Please respond directly to me.

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We're using an NE1000 and NE2000 driver, but neither is from Novell.
They're freeware drivers that I found someplace (I don't remember where
anymore).  Anyway, I can send you a uuencoded copy with instructions if
you like.  A special IPX is also needed in order for the drivers to work.
We haven't had any problems with them, and I've used them with both
CUT/CP and PC TCP/IP Plus.


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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:10:55 PST
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From:         {Darkavich} <steve@WINTERMUTE.UCSD.EDU>
Subject:      Windows 4 workgroup and Lan Workplace

Has anyone figured a way to get LWP4DOS to work with NDIS drivers or
Windows for Workgroups to work with ODI?

Talking to Novell and Microsoft at Comdex last week was basicly an act of
frustration.  Novell says they will not support NDIS & Microsoft says
they will not support ODI.  How are we, the end user supposed to be
able to make our software work under all forms of windows if the software
will not support the drives available for windows.

I believe that Windows for workgroup will run on top of Lan Manager's
TCP/IP stack, but why should have to through away our 1000 user sight license
because it doesn't support W4WG?  Or why should I be prevented from
using W4WG because the TCP/IP software we chose won't work in the
new enviroment?

Anyway is there anything that will solve this problem?
The real solution would be to see W4WG support ODI.  That way I can
still use all of my existing software.

        Steve Misrack
        steve@ucsd.edu
        UCSD Network Operations
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:58:28 CDT
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From:         James Ford <JFORD@SEEBECK.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Charon v4.0 - what a program!

I have seven fileservers being served by one charon gateway (another one here
has 8 more).  Today, we were lucky enough to have a backhoe cut one of our
broadband connections. :-(  This caused the immediate loss of three of the
seven fileservers (almost half) from my charon gateway.

I ran a program called pingstat and could not ping our charon gateway, so
I figured that I had to comment out the downed-server entries until the
broadband was fixed and restart Charon.

**NOT**

I suddenly notice that after about 5 minutes, I was getting internet mail
again.  Charon v4.0 had successfully figured out that 3 servers were down
and took care of itself!

I know of *no* other SMTP gateway that could survive the loss of almost 50%
of its clients!  What a program!  :-)
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             jford@seebeck.ua.edu, jford@risc.ua.edu
             The University of Alabama (in Tuscaloosa, Alabama)
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From: root@devnull.dus.novell.com (Peter D. Bartok)
Subject: Re: the SFT III saga...
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:21:18 GMT

Fund@RELAY.PROTEON.COM writes:

>>Iam starting the SFT III discussion again because a customer of us is
>>jumping for it and it still seems to be a NT product (Not There).
>>First of all: I have heard various prices, In the US it should cost
>>about $16.000, Novell Benelux (belgium/netherlands/luxembourg) gave
>>us a price of , Is this for 1 server or for both (the primary and the
>>secondary)??
>>mailbox@zeus.ice.nl (Henno Keers)                     Zeus mailbox

>   $18995 US for the both copies.  Only 250 user is available now.

>   No MAC or UNIX support at this time.  4.0 will have it when it
>   comes out and 3.1x will be retrofitted to support these name
>   spaces in the future.

>   In addition to the software you will need a pair of 100 MByte/sec
>   cards and a cable to connect them up.

>   Thomas Conrad (512) 836-1935  Europe # +49-211-5048781
>   and
>   Plaintree Systems (613) 831-3283

>   have certifed cards.  Expect to spend in the $3000-$4000 for the set.

I don't know about the prices, they might be right, but as far as I know,
SFT III is called a "controlled release", means you have to do some paperwork
if you wanna buy it and Novell checks whether you can get it. 

Enjoy Netware!

Peter
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From: James.Willmott@F41.N258.Z1.FIDONET.ORG (James.Willmott)
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Subject: Maximum Users on a Novell 3.11 Servers
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:54:02 GMT
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Hi.

I'm the Novell Administator at The University Of Hull.

Until now we have allowed all users to login to our main application server as
 "GUEST", for security reasons we've decided to register all users.

Currently we have 18 servers dotted around campus, however the main file server
 is the Application fileserver in the Computer Centre (the one I am directly
 resposible for). This machine is running NetWare 3.11, its an EISA
50Mhz 486 systems with 32Mb of RAM and 2.4GB of disk space. It has over 200
 concurrent users using it everyday.

My question is:

Realstically, what is the optimum number of users I can have registered on this
 server before SYSCON and other NetWare tools 'fall over' ?

It is likely that we could end up needing to register between 15,000 and 20,000
 users and I'm trying to decided how many extra servers I should budget for.

Thanks in advance,

James.

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From:         Mark Fairmaid <fairmaid@NZLS02.NZL.ABK.NEC.CO.JP>
Subject:      Registering memory above 16 Meg

Gidday,
I am currently trying to register memory above 16meg on my Novell 3.11
server without any success.

The configuration is as follows:
        NEC Businessmate 486/25 EISA machine
        32 bit bus
        Adaptec 1540 SCSI controller using INT B and PORT 330
        NE3200 lan card using INT 5
        22.5 meg of memory

We are running the following:
        NFS
        TCPIP
        Arcserve
        LANProtect
        Server Based Print Server
        Remote Management, eg rconsole

When I use the "set auto register memory above 16 megabytes = on" it will
not automatically do it.

If I use the "register memory 1000000 500000" the file server will aknowledge
it. The value will change in MONITOR,  and then it will hang and then crash.

Any clues at all would be helpful. Mail me directly please.

Thanks alot,
Mark Fairmaid
Novel Administrator
NZ TSSC Ltd
Wellington
New Zealand

Email:  fairmaid@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
Phone:  (0064)(4) 472 6947
Fax:    (0064)(4) 473 3495
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From:         Brian Comin <bbc@DSI.BC.CA>
Subject:      Surf. Test Fails on 2G Drive!

I have 3 Fujitsu M2652SA 2 Gig drives we are adding to our Novell 3.11
servers.  We are using the Adaptec 1742 Controllers (Ones that work) on an AMI
Enterprise II Motherboard.  I can format the drives, partition them, mount
them and load data on them but if I try and run a Surface test I get
"Test Type: FAILED" after a few minutes of testing.  The drive specs are as
follows: Heads 20, Cylinders 1944  5400 RPM.  Any insight into this problem
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Brian Comin
Dynapro Systems Inc.
bbc@dsi.bc.ca
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From:         COLBURN@UNCA.BITNET
Subject:      Reasonable compensation for beeper coverage

What's reasonable compensation for nightly and week-end coverage of a network ?
That is, what's  a fair rate to pay folks who carry a beeper and are 'on-call'?
Is a percentage of salary typically used to figure an amount ?  We're just
starting this practice of formally having folks on-call, and want to fairly
compensate whoever is on-call for their restricted 'time-off'.  We have yet to
see just how much time will actually be spent trouble-shooting and fixing
problems ... but the restriction to your life sure sounds like it deserves fair
treatment.  I'll appreciate any thoughts re: how to figure rates of pay for
this 'on-call' time ... if you suggest an amount, please include salary ranges
for your area.  THANKS !

Joan Colburn
colburn@unca.bitnet
colburn@unca.edu
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:22:00 LCL
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From:         CPC <CPC.SYSTEMS@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM INSTALLATION ON NW

To: NOVELL

Nader and the List,

Here is the current draft of a soon to be FAQ on CD ROMs on Novell 3.11
Networks:

Q: How do I connect CD-ROM drives to my Novell Network?

There are two methods to making CD-ROM drives available on a Novell
Network.  They are:

A - Redirector Software
               CD-ROM drives are attached to a networked PC or dedicated CD
server.
       Redirector software (usually MSCDEX) and device drivers are  loaded
on the
       client PCs.  This method is uses valuable client PC RAM, has
generally slower
       performance, and usually requires a heavier hardware expense.

B - NLM-based Software  (NLM-Netware Loadable Module)
                CD-ROM drives are attached to the file server.  NLM and
device drivers
       are loaded on the file server.  No additional hardware (beyond the
controller              card(s) and drives) are required, although in most
cases it is necessary
       to increase the RAM on the file server.  No software is used on the
client PC,
       therefore not using valuable RAM.  Other advantages include using
file server
       resources, better performance, and ease in setup and administration.

Currently the preferred solution (of several PC/Networking Magazines - see
PC Magazine Dec. 31, 1991 pgs. 333-363 and LAN Times Sept. 2, 1991- and
several respected members of the Novell List) is SCSI Express from
MicroDesign International, Winter Park, FL.  (407-677-8333).

SCSI Express NLM software works with a variety of controllers and CD
drives.  It requires that it control all the SCSI (small computer standard
interface) devices that are directly attached to the file server.  Device
driver for most SCSI devices are included ( CD-ROM drives, controller
cards, WORMs, rewritable optical devices, multifunction drives, hard disks,
tape backups, removable hard disks, and jukeboxes).

The main advantage to SCSI Express is that it makes use of the Netware file
server resources as needed.  There is no need for dedicated cache or
additional security measures.  Also, each CD is loaded and then mounted as
a volume making use easier and transparent to the users.  Another advantage
is no need for the redirector software (MSCDEX).  If your software for your
CD absolutely refuses to run without MSCDEX loaded, then MDI will provide
you with MDIEXT which tricks the software into believing the MSCDEX is
running and uses less RAM!  When tested, SCSI Express out performed all CD
solutions.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:50:15 EST
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From:         Jim Wirt <WIRT@OSUPPLNT.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      Re: Capture Goes Bye Bye

>
> From: George Kuetemeyer
> Senior Analyst, Information Center
> Department of Information Systems
> I have a user who attaches to an HP LaserJet 2D through the capture command.
> She goes into Platinum accounting software & prints OK. After she exits the
> program, the capture function is lost. She can't print through any other
> applications until she reissues another capture command. The HP 2D is
> connected to a 3.11 server running the most recent non-recalled version of
> PSERVER. A Platinum consultant says that there is nothing in Platinum that
> should cause this to happen.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> |  o      o     o       o                  o      o        o  |
> | /|\    /|\   /|>     /|\      oo        /|>    /|\      /|_ |
> | / >    / >   / \      |    o  /         / /    / /      / / |
> |oo_oo__oo_oo oo_oo____ooo___/\/oo______oo_oo__oo_oo____oo_oo_|
>

Each netware clients capture status is maintained in a table on the
client's  internal shell tables.  I have usually seen Platinum
started via batch files.  I would guess that yours might contain an
ENDCAP command.  While it would be possible for an errant program to
disable the capture flags I think it's more likely that endcap is
being issued somewhere.  What does Capture /SH reveal when run
immediately after exiting Platinum?

Jim Wirt
Physical Plant Services - Micro Support
Oklahoma State University
From: vkujala@sara.cc.utu.fi
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Subject: NW 2.2 server with 16 Mb RAM ??!?
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:39:53 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

Hello,

I have a problem with my Netware 2.2 (5 users) dedicated file server.  There
are 16 Mb of memory on board, but only 1+8 Mb are used. In other
words 7 Mb are unused.  Can I configure NW to use all the memory ?

Should I upgrade to NW 3.11 if I want to use more than 8 Mb cache ??

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


V. Kujala,                      INTERNET:  vkujala@sara.utu.fi
Computer Science
Turku University
FINLAND
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TCP/IP as Netware protocol recommended ?

>Hi,
>
>we are in the process of setting up a Novell network, where PC's running
>DOS and OS/2 are connected to a Novell server. The RDBMS Oracle 6.0 will
>be running on the Novell server as well. We also want to connect a Unix
>box to the net, which will send RPC-requests using the TCP/IP protocol
>to an OS/2 machine on the LAN.
>
>I heard that now you have got a choice of the underlying protocol in Novell
>Netware (IPX/SPX and TCP/IP). Is that true ?
        No, you don't really. NetWare Core Protocol packets travel using IPX.
NW 3.x also supports IP traffic, and you can purchase server support for NFS.
NFS is limited to IP traffic.

>If yes, would I encounter any problems when using the TCP/IP protocol ?
>Is TCP/IP supposed to be the "main" protocol to be supported in upcoming
>releases of Netware or will Novell stick to IPX/SPX ?
>If TCP/IP is supported I would of course prefer using that as the only
>protocol on the net.
        Answered above.
        Joe D.

>Does anybody want to comment on that ?
>
>Thanks for any info, Ernst.
>Ernst Kloecker      phone: ++49-30-6181635      e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de
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From:         yusuf <YUSUF@EMUNIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      printer problems

 hi...
 I installed Nw3.11 but we have some problems in printing.

  1 - File in the queue is active But is not recognized by printer.
     There are no any phsical problems in devices.
     In our system we didnt installed dedicated printserver.When we
     give LOAD pserver <pserver_name>  it displays files are serviced
    by pserver...
     We defined the AEG OLYMPIA printer with PRINTDEF.

  2- In other system we tried to used RPRINTER but we didnt succeed it.
    I defined The HP LASER printer As a REMOTE PRINTER LPT1  and I
    executed RPRINTER when the workstation is boot to sytem.I get
    the following messages
      UNABLE TO ATTACH TO PRINT SERVER PSERVER.ERROR(66)
     UNABLE TO COMPLETE INITILIZATION PROCESS
     I know that rprint.exe work as a TSR in BOOT case ? AM I wrong ?

       thanks for your helps.....

  YUSUF KUCUK
  EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN UNIVERITY
  CYPRUS
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:33:21 EST
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject: Re: rprinter and Windows

FORWARDED MESSAGE from MIKE (MAIL @ CSERVE {INTERNET:MIKE@LARSE.COM})
 M> at 11/23/92 5:10 PM
 M> From: MIKE <MIKE@LARSE.COM>
 M> Subject:      Re: rprinter and Windows
 M>
 M> If the DOS version of word perfect is configured to use the NOVELL
 M> print queues directly instead of the LPT ports, the problem should go
 M> away. Note: if you use standard mode instead of enhanced you must use
 M> TASKID.
***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 11/23/92 6:56 PM
That is incorrect for Windows 3.1.

TBMI & TASKID were for Windows 3.0 only, and for enhanced mode, they were
superceded by the VIPX.386 driver that gets loaded in the "network=" line
of SYSTEM.INI under the [386Enh] section header.

For Windows 3.1 in standard mode, you instead load TBMI2 before going into
Windows.  There is no TASKID or TASKID2 that is required.  This is because
Windows 3.1 in standard mode emulates the DOS 5 DOSSHELL task switcher API,
for which TBMI2 was originally developed.

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