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From: fj@iesd.auc.dk (Frank Jensen)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Underline font
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:27:34 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University

In article <3245@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:

   In article <1992Apr7.024443.20428@serval.net.wsu.edu> hakimian@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff) writes:
   <This may be a stupid question, but how do you under line a word in a particular
   <font?
   <
   <What I hope the answer is not is to draw a line under it. Fonts seem to come
   <with underline information built in (ie. underline postion and underline width).
   <How do you use this information.

   You draw a line under it.  Sorry, but PostScript fonts do not have underline
   stuff in them, only the info about the character itself.

Not quite correct.  Here is the top portion of Utopia-Regular:

%!PS-AdobeFont-1.0: Utopia-Regular 001.001
%%CreationDate: Wed Oct  2 19:10:38 1991
%%VMusage: 32987 39879
%% Utopia is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated.
11 dict begin
/FontInfo 10 dict dup begin
/version (001.001) readonly def
/Notice (Copyright (c) 1989, 1991 Adobe Systems Incorporated.  All Rights Reserved.Utopia is a registered trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated.) readonly def
/FullName (Utopia Regular) readonly def
/FamilyName (Utopia) readonly def
/Weight (Regular) readonly def
/ItalicAngle 0 def
/isFixedPitch false def
/UnderlinePosition -100 def
/UnderlineThickness 50 def
end readonly def

The FontInfo dictionary for the font may contain UnderlinePosition and
UnderlineThickness.  The Adobe Font Metric Files Specification Version
3.0 has the following to say about this info:

UnderlinePosition number

(Optional.)  Distance from the baseline for centering underlining
strokes. This may be interpreted as a y-displacement for writing
direction 0, and an x-displacement for writing direction 1.

UnderlineThickness number

(Optional.)  This is the stroke width for underlining, expressed in
character coordinate space (proportional to the characters in the font
program.)

   <If this is an easy question and I overlooked the obvious, please give me the
   <answer along with the flames. :-)
   <
   <BTW I looked in the three Adobe books to find an example of underlined text. I
   <did not see any.

   Since you know the starting point of the text, you determine the length of
   the string, drop down a point or two and draw a line of string length.  That
   is a simple way of doing it.
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Lisp dialect as front end to PostScript
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:07:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.171701.1856@adobe.com> byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer) writes:
> That is, given the choice and identical functionality, who
> would prefer to program in Lisp? 

Given a choice and identical functionality, I would prefer to program
in Forth. Postscript is pretty close, but there's some design problems
that I'd rather not have to workaround all the time (little things like
the ordering of the arguments to DEF, the artificial distinction between
DEF and SET, and so on).
-- 
/F{findfont exch scalefont setfont}def /S{moveto show}def /T{/Times-Roman F}def
8 T(Ferranti International Controls Corporation)24 28 S(+1 713 274 5180)24 12 S
(Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012)24 20 S 12 /Courier F(`-_-')320 32 S( 'U` )320 16 S
12 T(Peter da Silva)24 36 S 16 T(Have you hugged your wolf today?)358 24 S
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: jadams@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey J. Adams - Invoice)
Subject: "Other" page sizes
Keywords: postscript,NeXT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:02:36 GMT

     I am having problems with generating "Other" page sizes from the Page
Layout Panel of a custom application I have written on the NeXT.
    For example, I am trying to create a 20.5" x 7" document page.  The
postscript that is generated looks okay but the page that is produced, when
either viewed with Previewer or when I sent it off to a service bureau and
printed it on a Linotronic 300, is clipped to 8.5 x 11 inches to the upper left
of the document.  This occurs for any "Other" page size document.
    The drawing rect that the view receives to draw in is the entire 20.5" x 7"
and the following line is even in the postscript produced:

%%PageBoundingBox: 0 0 1476 504

     When I print my document with the page style set to A3, the doument page
produced is correctly shown as the expected 11.69" X 16.52".  So all of the
given page sizes work but the "Other" page sizes are all clipped to 8.5" X 11".
Am I supposed to be including more postscript prologue info to allow the custom
page size?
     When you compare the postscript of the same document printed as A3 and as
"Other" (20.5" X 7") the following lines are essentially different:

Document printed as A3
---------------------
.
%%DocumentPaperSizes:A3
%%Orientation: Landscape
.
%%PageBoundingBox: 0 0 1190 842
%%PaperSize: A3

Document printed as "Other" (20.5" X 7")
---------------------
.
(no document paper size specification)
%%Orientation: Landscape
.
%%PageBoundingBox: 0 0 1476 504
%%Feature: *CustomPaperSize 504.000000 1476.000000

     This "%%Feature" line seems to state what I want but it seems to be
ignored.  Also, why would having a custom page size be all that special for
Postscript that it has to be a "feature"?

Can anyone explain what I haven't set up correctly yet?



Jeffrey Adams:     jadams@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu  (Non-NeXT mail)
From: cyoon@utdallas.edu (Chang K. Yoon)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Need additional files for GhostScript for MSDOS
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:57:33 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas

Hello.  Does anyone know where I can get the additional files that GhostScript
needs to run?  (For example gs_init.ps, etc.)  The archive of GhostScript for
MSDOS that I have does not have any form of documentation so I don't know
how to get it to boot.  Thanks!

BTW: Please email me to save bandwidth.  Thank you.

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: bright@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Bob Bright)
Subject: Re: Duplex/Simplex printing on HP IIID
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:19:18 GMT

In article <TDW.92Apr9203649@batmobil.vuse> tdw@batmobil.vuse (Thomas D. Wagner) writes:
>duplex. Okay, so I should be able to take some PostScript, insert the
>code to set /setduplexmode to false and it should simplex that job.
>
>The code I inserted is
>    statusdict /setduplexmode false put
>
>I also tried
>    statusdict begin /setduplexmode true def

Put the following two lines at the top of your file:

%!
statusdict begin false setduplexmode end

If you're on a unix system, just save them as "simplex.ps" and
cat them to your printer before your file whenever you want to print
in simplex:

cat simplex.ps yourfile.ps | lpr -Pprinter_name

BBB
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: maguire@cs.columbia.edu (Gerald Q. Maguire)
Subject: Re: Lisp dialect as front end to PostScript
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 08:21:01 GMT

One thing which you can do is hand the resulting LISP to one of
several code analyzers and find the dependency chains and thus compute
each of the chains concurrently. Some analysis which I did 1988
indicates that these chains are typically short and there are a lot
per page (for typical output generated by formatters such as SCRIBE)
thus there is a lot of potential for parallelism. A side benefit is
that you know which characters in which font and what size to cache
for subsequent rendering of a page - which is great if you are going
to reprint this page later; ideally it allows you to keep multiple
representations of a page and emit previous versions very quickly for
a given device.

Chip
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: junker@possum.den.mmc.com (Jon Junker)
Subject: Looking for a simple example that uses the PS 'file' operator
Keywords: file read write readline
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics Group, Denver
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:04:50 GMT

Hi:

I'm looking for a simple example of a PS program that read/writes to
another file, even if that file is standard output.

I have looked throught several PS books and find a lot of good examples
for everything except for what I'm looking for (don't you just hate it when
that happens?).

I'm working on a Sun with a PS compatible printer or on a Mac with
SendPS.

Any help or pointers is appreciated.

Jon
junker@pogo.den.mmc.com
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: jeffc@microsoft.com (Jeff Carey)
Subject: Re: sending run-length-compressed ps-files to printer
Date: 06 Apr 92 00:40:59 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: comp.lang.postscript

In article <UNILRH.92Mar30133738@uts.uni-c.dk> unilrh@uts.uni-c.dk (Leif R|dgaard) writes:
>Our bootle-neck is the slow (38.400baud) serial line to the printer,
>where a 4mbyte picture will take 1000 seconds equals about 20 minutes
>transmittion-time. Here it would be nice to be able to compress (run-length-
>encoded or otherwise) before sending the file to the printer, and have
>the postscript-device uncompress the file from the serial line. Just a
>factor a 4 would reduce the transmittion time to 5 minutes.

This brings to mind a question I've had: I'm using a simple RLE scheme
I hacked to shrink the hex representation of bitmaps during the conversion
from binary to postscript.  The ps code includes a decompressor.  Anyway,
the question is this: I'm running the serial line at 38.4 as well, and the
PS interpreter continually drops CTS (equivalent to an XOFF) during 
transmission while it decompresses the incoming data stream.  The routine
to decompress the data is small and fast and simple--on most images there
is about a 6-to-1 expansion.  I'm hitting a basic speed limit in the
interpreter right?  No matter how much faster I get the serial line, no 
matter how much more compression is done, the interpreter is now telling
me it is maxed, right?  If so, the standard math (represented above by
4 meg. in 5 min.) really doesn't apply to the real world situation.  The
first solution would be to get a faster interpreter, then seeing how
often CTS comes down, then optimizing the compression, right?  Thanks for 
any input!
-- 
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From: helz@ecn.purdue.edu (Randall A Helzerman)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Encapsulated vs. Unencapsulated PS
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:21:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


 	I'm rather new to this postscript business, could someone please
answer for me what is probably a very basic question:
 
	I need to convert some postscript files from encapsulated to
unencapsulated form and vice versa.  How do you do it?
 
Thank-you kindly, in advance.
From: shtodd@vaxsar.vassar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: PS-related summer job wanted in NY metro area
Keywords: PostScript job
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:53:18 GMT
Organization: Vassar College

Hello.
I apologize in advance to those who will undoubtedly flame me for posting this
to comp.lang.postscript, but this is the best place I could think of to reach
the people I'd like to reach.
I am seeking a summer position or internship in a PostScript-related field
(development, support or even marketing) with a company in the New York
Metropolitan area. 
I am currently a junior Computer Science major at a liberal arts college, and
have spent past summers working at a service bureau, at a magazine writing
PostScript-generating programs, and a typography shop.
If you would like to see my resume, or if you have any information that might
help me find such a position, I'd like to hear from you.
Thank you, and again, sorry for this digression from the usual c.l.p fare.

Shadrach Todd
shtodd@vassar.edu
From: kamesh@kural.ma30.bull.com (Kamesh Ramakishna)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: I need help with color images
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:46:54 GMT
Reply-To: kamesh@kural.ma30.bull.com (Kamesh Ramakishna)
Organization: Bull Worldwide Information Systems

I am trying to print a colorimage using postscript and I repeatedly get
a /undefined error when I use the setcolorspace function.  This error
happens both in ghostscript and when I use Freedom of Press to print to
my color printer, so I am convinced that I am doing something wrong.

I would appreciate some help.  Here is a transcript of the ghostscript
session in which the problem shows up -- as you can see it, I cant even
reach the part where I have an image.

/u/gs/bin# gs
Initializing... done.
Ghostscript 2.3  Copyright (C) 1990, 1991 Aladdin Enterprises,
   Menlo Park, CA.  All rights reserved.
Distributed by Free Software Foundation, Inc.
Ghostscript comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file COPYING for details.
GS>/DeviceRGB setcolorspace                                       
%<--------------------!!!!!!
Error: /undefined in setcolorspace
Operand stack:
    /DeviceRGB
Execution stack:
    operator_38a4    --nostringval--  --nostringval--  operator_8a98  --nostri
ngval--  --nostringval--  false  --nostringval--  --nostringval--  --nostringv
al--
Dictionary stack:
    337/401  3/200


The initialization routine I am using is the "standard" one -- I have made
no changes to whatever was already installed on the system.


Thank you,

	-- Kamesh
From: fenrich@acsu.buffalo.edu (Richard Fenrich)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: What is the difference between eps and ps?
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:51:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr10.175103.27397
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo / CEDAR Research Group

This question has probably been answered on this
newgroup already. If it has been recently, please
excuse my query (and please send me the answer ;-))
else could someone provide some insight to the
entire newsgroup of what the difference really is?

Thanks in advance.


Richard Fenrich
fenrich@cs.buffalo.eud
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: jsantos@godzilla.ma30.bull.com (James Santos)
Subject: Re: Duplex/Simplex printing on HP IIID
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:19:26 GMT

Try "statusdict begin false setduplexmode end".  Works for us...


--
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Bull Worldwide Information Systems
J.Santos@bull.com
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: counting # of pages
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:24:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: vidiot.3229
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Apr1.235048.28405@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> benjamin@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Mr. Benjamin J. G.) writes:
<Unfortunately many of us use systems with hardware configurations that don't
<allow bidirectional communications between the printer and computer.  In this
<environment we are stuck wasting time.

If you are using a computer's serial port to talk to the printer, then a program
can be written to talk to the printer.  If you are using the parallel port, all
bets are off.

<Viable?  Maybe not.  Only research can prove your opinion either way.

True, very true.

<Thanks for the discussion!

You are welcome.  Maybe this result in a program that will work for you.
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From: bkph@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Latex <--> PostScript conversion??
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:48:02 GMT
In-reply-to: alena@nikhefh.nikhef.nl's message of 13 Apr 92 11:59:50 GMT


In article <1577@nikhefh.nikhef.nl> alena@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Alena Lacova) writes:

   > How can I convert PostScript files to Latex files and 
   > vice-versa. I know that there is a dvi2ps utility - Is

   I have another question: is there something like dvi2ps
   but the final postscript file is conforming to Adobe
   Document Structuring Conventions ?
   Or is there something what can make postscript file conforming ?

Yes, DVIPSONE produces output that conforms to Adobe DSC 3.0

In addition, single page output conforms to the EPS specification, so can be
included as a figure in another TeX document (scaled anyway you want).

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Disclaimer of lack of bias: respondent has connections with Y&Y

*** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** 

Berthold K.P. Horn
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
From: dockhorn@hpwad.WAD.HP.COM (#Patrick Dockhorn)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 10:40:52 GMT
Subject: large scaled fonts & GhostScript
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Waldbronn, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript

/ hpwad:gnu.ghostscript.bug / dockhorn@hpwad.WAD.HP.COM (#Patrick Dockhorn) / 11:39 am  Apr 13, 1992 /
Hi there,
this might be a very (very very) stupid question,
but I'm using GhostScript 2.3 alpha and just printed
some color text onto an HP PaintJet.
The problem is, that the font I used is scaled to
a size of about 3 inches, and the result is not very
beautiful, i.e. it seems that a bitmap font is used
and simply becomes enlarged using linear interpolation.
I expected the big font to look exactly like the normal
sized, just bigger.
Did I make something wrong or is GhostScript just not able
to produce the proper output ?                       

Any help would be appreciated...

	Patsch

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: pesetsk@athena.mit.edu (David M Pesetsky)
Subject: ghostscript/hercules
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:28:50 GMT



I want to run Ghostscript on my 386SX PC with a Hercules graphics card,
outputting to screen.

I have the MSDOS executables and what I think are all the relevant files
from the various *.zip archives.  From reading the doc files and even
grepping them for references to Hercules, I gather that I need some
sort of driver, and I gather that the characters BGI somehow figure into
this.

I do not own C (I'm not a programmer), and thus am not equipped to build
my own version.  Should I forget it, is there something I'm missing, or
both?

Also, a possibly related question.  The program GS.EXE loads and runs,
though without showing me my document, obviously.  On the other hand,
GS386.EXE gives the error message:

	DOS/4GW Protected Mode Run-time   Version 1.3
	Copyright (c) Rational Systems, Inc. 1990-1991
	DOS/4GW Fatal error: Can't initialize loader[1]  -- LINEXE_LOADER

What is this about?

Thanks,

David Pesetsky
From: AKayser@dnpap.et.tudelft.nl (Alfred Kayser)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: ascii to ps printer
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:45:10 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering

dd@netlink.cts.com (Donna Druchunas) writes:
>I just wrote a little ASCII to PS converter for printing
>ASCII files on my PS printer.  I'm including the code in
>this message because it's fairly short and I thought some
>of you might be interested...and also because I'm having
>a couple of problems with the thing.  I've also neglected
>to include certain things which probably would be nice,
>but "oh well" <grins>!

Not particular nice a2ps code removed...
 
Inserted Obfusticated Ascii 2 PostScript filter:
#include <stdio.h>
FILE *fp=stdin;
char b[1024];
int c,l,lp,pl=0,p=0,fl=1;
#define P printf
void main(ac,av)int ac;char **av;{
	if(--ac)
		while(ac--)
			if(fp=fopen(*++av,"r"))
				Pf(),fclose(fp);
	else Pf();
	if(pl)P("%%Trailer\n%%Pages: %d\n\004",p);
	exit(0);}
Pf(){
	if(!pl){
		puts("%!PS-Adobe-1.0\n%%Pages: (atend)\n\/Courier findfont 10\n\
scalefont setfont\n/S{exch /L exch def 32 809 L 12 mul sub moveto show}bind def\n\
%%%%EndProlog");pl=1;}
	lp=l=0;
	while((c=getc(fp))!=EOF){
		if(c==9)do{b[lp++]=' ';}while(lp%8);
		else if(c==10)Nl();
		else if(c==12){Nl();Pp();}
		else{c&=0x7F;
			if(c<32){b[lp++]='^';c+='@';}
			b[lp++]=(char)c;}}
	Nl();if(l)Pp();}
Pl(p)char *p;{
	P("%d(",l++);
	for(;*p;p++){
		if(*p=='('||*p==')'||*p=='\\')putchar('\\');
		putchar(*p);}
	P(")S\n");}
Nl(){
	if(lp){
		b[lp]='\0';
		if(l>=65)Pp();
		if(fl)P("%%%%Page: %d %d\n",++p,p);
		Pl(b);fl=lp=0;}}
Pp(){
	P("showpage\n");
	l=0;fl=1;}
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Bug in fill?
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:53:06 GMT
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin.

The following program draws a "donut" on the page, i.e., two circles
with the space between them filled in. It does this by drawing one
circle with "arc" and the other with "arcn".

Using Ghostview (sorry, don't know which version number) I get a donut
with a hole, just as I expected. On a Laserwriter II all I get is a
solid filled circle (a donut with no hole).

----cut here----
%!
%%EndComments

/InRadius 20 def
/OutRadius 40 def

300 600 translate

newpath
0 0 OutRadius 0 360 arc	% outer circle
InRadius 0 moveto	% put the current point on the inner circle
0 0 InRadius 0 360 arcn	% draw inner circle in the *opposite* direction
fill			% fill to get a donut

showpage
----cut here----

Can anybody provide any insight into why I am getting different output
on Ghostview compared to a Laserwriter?


Ciaran.
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From: gardner@netcom.com (Gardner Grout)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Type 1 Windows font to Type 1 Mac Font
Keywords: Fonts, windos, mac, type 1, homegrown
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:47:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I need to convert a homemade Type 1 font from a Windows to a Mac form. It is an outline font that I need to  download to a RIP/Lino output device. Any suggestions? Please email me or post here. I am getting desperate.

Thanks,

Gardner

gardner@netcom.com