From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Gore's environmental ideas
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:01:57 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Nov2.150705.4174@dp7up.com> xmpcwsh@dp7up.com (Bill Harris) writes:

>In article <1992Oct31.210334.21885@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>
>>If  Gore's approach was as you portray it, I would quite agree.
>>However, in the interests of correct information, Senator Gore has
>>spoken in favor of just such a carbon tax in SEVERAL nationally
>>televised speeches.  I also have to differ with you as to what the
>>Republicans lean toward.  From what I've seen, they lean toward doing
>>nothing at all about the problem until it hits their neighborhood
>>(like finding the ozone hole over Kennebunkport).  Then when they DO
>>do something, the impacts are targeted on the bottom 80% or so of the
>>economic spectrum.
>>

>C'mon, if Gore had his way, he would do away with all cars, as he's stated.
>He is so atypical of the environmental wacko groups.   Seriously, these
>people are sitting at the steps of universities waiting on the latest
>press pak from the latest "Scientific Survey".  

Of course, he never said that.  But people don't want to let those
little realities get in the way of their political diatribes, I guess. 

>Does anyone remember it was just a few years ago that the science community
>came out and said we where destroying the Ozone layer because of the use
>of aerosol (didn't spell that right).  Or just recently when they said there
>was a huge hole developing in the layer above the poles.  Of course these 
>groups and their megaphones like Gore don't bring up the later articles about 
>when there wasn't actually a hole, just normal fluctuations in the
>layer.

They don't bring them up because mostly those articles are political
pieces and not scientific pieces.  In case you didn't notice, George
Bush (remember George Bush?) ACCELERATED the withdrawal of various
types of freons when it was discovered (turned out to be a mistake)
that the ozone hole over the North was reaching as far as
Kennebunkport. 

>It was just a few years ago, that the science community said we where 
>heading for GLOBAL COOLING, not Warming.  Remember when they
>predicted the coming of the next Ice Age?  Listen, man has been on this
>globe for so short a period of time, but can be so 'arrogant' with claims
>to have all the answer's and knowledge of his everything that goes on 
>around him.

Sorry to break it to you, but it is possible to actually have both,
with one triggering the other.

>It makes me sick to hear these so-called environmental groups claim
>that because I burn an oil and gas mixture in my gas-powered weed-eater,
>and my Kawasaki dirt bike, that I'm a major contributer to the total
>destruction of the ozone layer.  Don't people realize that just one,
>I repeat 1, major volcanic eruption spews more hydrocarbons, ash, and
>gases into the atmosphere than the total of all the engines, turbines, 
>and factories emission's in the last 100 years?   Now, I realize that
>this view is not politically correct, but I'm afraid people are
>getting a real snow job by some of these groups.  I garuntee you, that
>if the earth's temperature rises a few degrees, it won't be because
>the Lincoln Limo our CEO drives, but would more likely due to the
>ever increasing volcanic activity that we are seeing.

"Ever increasing volcanic activity"?  Sorry, but other than minor
peaks, that's totally untrue, as any brief look at the science of
vulcanism would show you.  What makes me sick is these people who
claim that just because we haven't killed ourselves yet that we're
having no impact.  What hogwash!  Ok, say that mankind only
contributes 10%.  What do you do if that's the 10% that puts us over
the top insofar as the ecosphere recovering or not?  Measurements show
quite clearly the amount of CO2 has been increasing since the 1800's,
when we first started fullscale use of things like coal.

>You just don't know how bad it hurts me to crank up my dirt bike and 
>realize the little cloud of blue hydrocarbons I just spewed out is
>causing more damage to the atmosphere than all of Mt. St Helen's millions
>of ton's of ash and gases.  I remember when they tracked that dust cloud
>into Europe.

What a crock.  Gee, I personally don't put out as much air polution as
a volcano, so I'm ok.  If only all those OTHER folks like me would
stop doing what I do, the world would be fine and I could do as I
please.

Right Bill?

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"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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