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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Messages automatically filed
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 11:28:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Ann,
 
In your 12-11-92 letter to Phil Spooner you said:
 
 AT> Our system here automatically picks up and files messages.
 
It seems to be a problem for many people to be able to log on
regularly to check their messages from K12Net, so I'm sure that
a lot of us would be interested in knowing what hardware and software
is used to "collect" your messages for you.
 
Happy holidays from Spokane where we have lots of snow right now and
it's still coming down!
 
Julie Rosenoff


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From: Sharon.Napshin@p0.f5.n30033.z1.fidonet.org (Sharon Napshin)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: K-12 Net in school
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:23:20 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:30033/5.0

Joel, I Want to thank you for the information.  I have been very busy  before the holidays and a quick time-out for the annual flu epidemic, but  I plan to pursue the data you have indicated.  The greatest thing about  being the media specialist in a building is that you can buy books that  you, yourself want to read.  One, and probably the only, perk in the  education business, don't you think!  thanks a lot!


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From: Barbara.Quirie@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Quirie)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Prim Penpals
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:14:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Dear Rosemary, I teach in Maple Valley,Washington, USA, and my multiage 
class of 2nd/3rd graders would very much like to correspond with your class via letters and picture postcards.  We will be studying Australia
and Australian animals beginning Feb., 1993.  If you'd like, write me at
22620 Sweeney Rd. S. E., Maple Valley, Wash. 98038, USA, Barb Quirie,
Shadow Lake Elem, School. or correspond with me via K-12 NET. Have a
happy holiday season!  Truly, Barb Quirie


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From: Ann.Trewern@p6.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Ann Trewern)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: No Communications.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:14:46 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.6 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

Hello Phil,
I am uncertain, but I think you may not have received my last message dated Friday 20th Nov. I am writing on the presumption that this may have happened. I thoroughly enjoyed your last communication of 16 Nov. and hope that you would wish to keep communication going.

I have sent off a snail mail package to your school which I hope will have already arrived and that you found it of some interest.

We have a Japanese teacher staying with us at the moment. We are enjoying her company. She is staying with me for about a fortnight and comes to school each day and works with the children. She is an expert at origami and the children really love her. She has been to two other local schools and is learning a lot about New Zealanders I think.

From your last message......
The area around your Gaston sounds lovely. I loved the details you wrote about the petroglyphs you visited. Are they relief carved or surface carved into the sandstone? They sound fascinating. Who carved them?

If you didn't receive the last message, I will reforward it on to you. We have only one week of school left for this year now. Official breakup day is Friday 18th December. We recommence the school year next February 1st. However feel free to send over the December and January period as I will be at school during the holidays from time to time. Our system here automatically picks up and files messages.
Also we are to get our school painted both externally and internally
and the starting time for this job is during the school holiday period so we will be around to unlock etc.
Keep writing
Regards Ann.


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From: Nancy.Freburg@p15.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Freburg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Julie's message
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 92 14:31:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.15 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Dear friend,
             What is your name? Mine is Julie Hawn.I live in
             Lewistown,Montana.My favorite subject is
             science. What is yours?Do you celebrate Christmas?


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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Festive Season etc....
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 04:12:15 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <11 Dec 92  12:19:50> to <All> about <Festive Season etc....>,
John Feltham wrote:

 JF> I take this opportunity to wish the K12net fraternity, a Holy
 JF> Christmas and wish them a Prosperous New Year. 

Best wishes and a Happy nOOROO Year to you!

 JF> Just in case, I'm taking a laptop with built in modem and Telix on
 JF> board! You may see reports from time to time. 

That's the spirit!

Regards,
Steve

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From: Don.Adams@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Don Adams)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Phi Delta Kappa Demo
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 06:04:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Someplace BBS, Indianapolis IN

Dear Jeff,
  You about a year ahead of us here in Indy. We plan on doing a telecom and 
particularly a K12Net Demo at PDK Chpt. 1031 next fall. Wasn't the December 
Issue of Kappan interesting?. Hope you or a collegue can come to the 
next bi-enieum that will be here in Indy... I heard the date... but forgot.
... always have to ask the wife... who is asleep..  Happy demo-ing.
Cordially, Don  
 

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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Australian tales
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 92 22:34:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
JF> PM> For Australian readers and those who have visited here, that was the
JF> PM> same J. F. Archibald who gave us the Archibald fountain in Hyde Park,
JF> PM> and the Archibald Prize for painting portraits.
I might also have mentioned that I make it a matter of principle to walk
across Hyde Park each morning, originally to look at the Archibald
Fountain with the sun shining through it, and more recently to look with
pleasure on one of the resident tawny frogmouths, perched in a tree
where nobody ever sees it.  I call the larger one Archibald.

JF>You should have mentioned that J.F. Archibald was also a rabid francophone
JF>and the first editor of "The Bulletin".
True: I could have said that, but that might encourage others to read
the modern pale imitation of something horrible that crawled out from
beneath a stone, today's "Bulletin".  You see, I'm just old enough to
have got one contribution into "The Red Page" as a precocious teenager,
back before the "Bulletin" went bad when it was sold to the Packer
family.

JF>Peter, can you tell me what connection there is between me and Archibald?
JF>Just a little research for you. It shouldn't be too difficult for someone in
JF>the OZ Museum!
I'll work on that, or I may just ask Heleanor Feltham.  Is she a relly?
I thought maybe it was his middle name, but now I recall that was
Francois, not Feltham.  I'll have to look around. . .

JF>Loved the tall tales, I will cross post them into The Language Arts area. I'
JF>sure you won't mind. On the other hand, you are a cockroach! Hmmmm.
Yes, but cockroaches don't have hands, although out on the Speewah,
having a cockroach on *either* hand would be worse than having asked a
masked stranger to cross your palm with Silver . . .

Hooroo
   peter

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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: VOCATIONAL INTEREST INVENTORIES
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 04:21:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <11 Dec 92  10:45:39> to <All Teachers> about <VOCATIONAL INTEREST INVENTORIES>,
Roger Smith wrote:

 RS> The Work Experience Team of Vancouver, Canada is looking for a name
 RS> of a user  friendy computer interest inventory for students with
 RS> limited reading abilities. We presently use the Becker Reading Free
 RS> Vocational Interest Inventory and are looking to expand our horizons. 
 RS> We are a group of work experience teachers and place students with
 RS> special needs on work experience. -!- TBBS v2.1/NM

Roger,
We have one in place on a Novell network in one of our IBM-PC labs.  I
installed it last year for the Guidance Department, but <blush> at the
moment, I can't remember the name of the software.  I think it's called
Personal Directions and comes to us out of the Vancouver area.

I'll try to remember to look up particulars and post them here.

Regards,
Steve

... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

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From: Nancy.Freburg@p15.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Freburg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: penpal
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 14:26:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.15 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Hi, Stephanie.  The message to follow this one is called Raelynn.  I am beginning to send you a few pen pal messages from various students.  You
may share this with one of your students who wants to be a penpal and maybe
we can get started.  The students will be looking forward to your students
answers.  Have fun!


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From: Elizabeth.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Elizabeth Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: use of k12
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 20:12:30 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

I have been reading messages for some weeks and I too have been struck by the number of calls for replies. This has made me start thinking quite closely about howI hope to use k12 next year. 
I think I will start small and try to establish contact with another secondary school beforehand and with a specific ain in mind - eg for new third formers to exchange information with other new thirdformers on how they are finding secondaary school.
Another way might be to use some of my student librarians to exchange information about duties expected of student librarians in different schools and then masybe in different countries. 
I think I'll start locally first with well defined aims and endpoint.
We have OASIS library management system in place and are going to network with the admin system in the school. This happens in Jan at kwhich time we also get a modem installed - yippeee.
Have n excellent Christmas holiday
Liz of Pakuranga College



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From: Donna.Ransdell@f1311.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Donna Ransdell)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: early childhood ed
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:11:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/1311 - The Education Stati, Poway CA

 > Hello usenet!  I'm new here &
 > wondering if anyone is an early
 > childhood educator.  I recently
 > became owner/director of the
 > preschool where I've been
 > teaching.  Would like to chat
 > with others about joys and
 > frustrations of the field.

California considers Kindergarten when they are discussing ECE. I'm a Kindergarten teacher this year.

My biggest joy is when a child I've been struggling to teach a certain letter finally sees one and shouts "That's an F! That's an F!" That's probably true on every level, including preschool.

Frustration? There are several! Teaching responsibility, for one...


                                       -donna


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From: Sue.Woodruff@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Sue Woodruff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: BBS
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:37:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI


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Xref: sparky k12.chat.teacher:5452 misc.education:5138
From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Public library use
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 16:59:52 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Jim,
 
 
JM> As a children's librarian in a public library system her in
JM> California, I have been having a problem with student assignments.

JM> Teachers often assign projects for their students expectin them to
JM> use the local library for their assignment.
 
JM> Sometimes it is even compounded with (to us) ridiculous
JM> restrictions, such as you have to use 5 sources and no
JM> encyclopedias. So, all of these kids show up, needing the same
JM> thing, five of each. It doesn't take a math wiz to see what kind of
JM> resources would be necessary to cover this.

JM> What do you as teachers think we librarians could do to solve this
JM> problem?

I just read something that might be of interest (but no help) to you:
Soon all public libraries in Washington state will be linked via
Internet.  My understanding of Internet is that it is a publically
funded network linking universities and technical companies.

Our local Gonzaga University has just implemented its own on-line
BBS where users can access databases of their resources plus some
on-line facts. (There is a charge to non-Gonzaga-University people.)

I guess my thoughts are that with an increasing wealth of information
available on CD-ROMs and through on-line sources, libraries should
have access to such things for student and staff research.

I don't think it's an impossible dream......

Sweet dreams.

Julie


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From: Nancy.Freburg@p15.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Freburg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: penpals
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 92 16:33:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.15 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Hi, Stephanie.  I am librarian for students K-6 in three elementary schools
in Lewistown, Montana.  I would love to work with you to get penpals going
between our two schools.  Chris Rowan gave me your name.  I will go ahead
and send messages through me from some of the kids in my library classes.
We can then get each student linked up to your students.  I can only do
about 2 students a week from each class, so it may take a while.  What
grade level would you like to use for this penpal project.  I will be looking
forward to your reply.


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Bits and pieces ...
Date: Wed, 09 Dec 92 08:54:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
GG>I have no comparative figures for the costs of K12 vs Keylink.  I am only
GG>speaking of my impressions.  Siure your transfer takes at night, but schools
GG>are more likely to use K12 at peak periods if it is students involved, as pa

Graham, the big problem with Keylink is that everybody seems to be
working online, and I understand that up to 80 users can be multiplexed
through one 2400 baud modem, giving an effective baud rate (at times) of
30 baud!  I find this hard to credit, but I do know that the only way I
can upload batches of text is in the wee small hours.

Cost-wise, there can be no comparison.  One local phone call (for me,
anyway) as against that plus by the minute charges plus by the thousand
caharacter charges, plus charges for the chromed insert in the whatsit,
plus wounded bull charges, plus a tax because there is an r in the month
* . . shall I go on?

My wife's principal won't let the girls use Keylink, because the charges
are uncontrolled.  She wants no nasty surprises at the end of the month,
and I don't blame her.

Finally, the billings are totally opaque as well.  The result?  Well,
compare my visible activity here with that on SCI.MAG, SCI.Q and
FROG.WATCH.  If "Talk to a Scientist" does not work in late '93, I will
be giving up on Keylink for good.  It is user-ferocious, and Telecom
lack the fire in the belly to support it, in fact, they can't even
simulate warm guts.  Give me FIDONET and SLMR any day!

Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!

peter

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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Festive Season etc....
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:19:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day All,

This BBS will be operating on auto-pilot for the next six weeks. School is over for this year for students and teachers in one hour.

I'm off to Singapore, Germany, The Netherlands and the UK for the six weeks. I arrive back on the day before teachers start back.

I take this opportunity to wish the K12net fraternity, a Holy Christmas and wish them a Prosperous New Year.

See you all next year.

Just in case, I'm taking a laptop with built in modem and Telix on board! You may see reports from time to time.


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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Letter to JW
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 20:08:29 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <07 Dec 92  16:48:22> to <Steve Larson> about <Letter to JW>,
Graham Gales wrote:

 GG> Have sent a message to Joh Wadell as per your request ...

Thanks for taking the time, Graham!

By the way, one of the boards in Fort McMurray who receives the K12net mail
from me has the moniker of "City Limits" as well!

Hmmmm....seems to me I once went out with a girl named Moniker...

Regards,
Steve

... Before I got married, I was my own worst enemy.

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From: Jeff.Harrits@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Jeff Harrits)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Phi delta kappa demo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:38:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

- Telecommunications & Education demonstration - I'll be giving a demonstration to the local Phi Delta Kappa chapter here in Taipei, Taiwan.  This will be on January 16th and I'm hoping PDK members from around the world might send words of wisdom, especially in terms of BBSing to me in preparation for the presentation.

Thanks for your assistance,  Shih shih nei (Thank you)

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From: Mike.Connealy@p0.f104.n305.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Connealy)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: SUBSTITUTE TEACHING
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 07:09:49 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:305/104.0 - The Eclectic Compan, Las Cruces NM

 > wonderful to receive PAY for  invaluable experience!
----
  I'll agree that it is for someone like you who is headed toward 
a teaching career and who is obviously motivated and talented.  However, I don't think most people doing substitute teaching fall into those categories.  The result is that the experience for most is unpleasant and unrewarding, both for the subs and the students.  It seems likely to me that raising the pay above a subsistence level would attract people to the job who had a greater committment to the job and result in some stability for the system.  In Las Cruces, the school system is advertising for subs i
n the paper, I get several calls daily for subbing, and principals and clerks are obviously getting to work well before daylight to start a desperate daily search for fresh meat.



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From: Eric.Bergmark@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bergmark)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Cities at 45o Lat Nth
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:10:54 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Hi from up North.  Portland, OR is at 46N123W.  Actually I have the 
exact figures and will get them to you on the next letter.  This sounds 
like a good idea.  Is the Channel 9 the K12 channel (I'll check)?  I 
hope to get my students (and myself) going on this after our Christmas 
break, the begginning of JAN.  I'l be in touch over the break and try 
and keep posted.  Thanks.



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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Bits and pieces ...
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:13:20 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Peter,

Wednesday December 09 1992 08:54, Peter Macinnis wrote to Graham Gales:

 > My wife's principal won't let the girls use Keylink, because the charges
 > are uncontrolled.  She wants no nasty surprises at the end of the month,
 > and I don't blame her.

 > Finally, the billings are totally opaque as well.  The result?  Well,
 > compare my visible activity here with that on SCI.MAG, SCI.Q and
 > FROG.WATCH.  If "Talk to a Scientist" does not work in late '93, I will
 > be giving up on Keylink for good.  It is user-ferocious, and Telecom
 > lack the fire in the belly to support it, in fact, they can't even
 > simulate warm guts.  Give me FIDONET and SLMR any day!

 > Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!
 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well said Peter.



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From: Roland.Gesthuizen@p3.f155.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Roland Gesthuizen)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Looking for a project?
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 92 14:59:46 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/155.3 - SECAP BBS, Clayton Vic

Jack, I have a history/social studies project that a coleague is interested in running. If you are interested, we are hoping to run this early '93. Drop me a line.

Roland Gesthuizen
Roland@csource.oz.au


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