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Reply-To:     carolyn@UNITY.NCSU.EDU
From:         carolyn@UNITY.NCSU.EDU
Subject:      Audobon magazines

Hello & Happy New Year!

I have a nearly complete set of issues of _Audobon_ magazine from 1975-1985
to give away to any interested person, library, etc.  I estimate that the
cost of postage to ship these library rate within the U.S. would be $15.00
or less, and I only request that the recipient be willing to cover this
shipping cost.

Please contact me by e-mail if you'd like to have these magazines.

carolyn@unity.ncsu.edu

Carolyn Argentati
Natural Resources Library
North Carolina State University
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Reply-To:     Ana Graciela Jimenez <AJIMENEZ%UCRVM2.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
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              <AJIMENEZ%UCRVM2.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>
From:         Ana Graciela Jimenez <AJIMENEZ%UCRVM2.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Request information about insecticides

I'm making a research about a natural insecticide, (rotenone) that it is biodeg
radable and non toxic for mammals.
I need information about
insecticides (natural and sinthetic).  I need information about wordlwide use,
markets, more common insecticides, and information about use of natural insecti
cides.
This information will be very helpful to my research, specially for my literatu
re survey.
You can reply me directly.
Thanks in advance
Ana GRaciela Jimenez
ajimenez at ucrvm2.bitnet
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:03:28 EST
Reply-To:     Peter Rogers <PROGERS%NERVM.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
From:         Peter Rogers <PROGERS%NERVM.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>
Subject:      Liberian Tanker Registration

I'm posting these questions to both the Africa-L and Biosphere-L
lists so as to get a slightly wider audience for an issue that
might be of interest to both groups.

My questions/topics for discussion concern the wreck of the
tanker Braer off the Shetland Islands and its Liberian
registration.
     1. It seems ludicrous that Liberia would continue to
register shipping because at the moment it has no functioning
government.  Has there been any move to strip Liberia of the
power to register shipping and/or more carefully inspect Liberian
registered ships when they dock in other countries?
     2. Who is getting the money? This, as usual, is the big
question.  Presumably ship owners are still paying for the
privilege of Liberian registration, and where is the money going?
One of my housemates, another Africanist political scientist, and
I guessed that a good part of it is lining the pockets of the
Nigerians but we have no evidence to base that on.

Peter Rogers
Dept of Political Science   Internet: progers@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu
Center for African Studies  BitNet: progers@nervm
     427 Grinter Hall       EcoNet: progers@igc.apc.org
     University of Florida  phone: (904) 392-2183
     Gainesville, FL 32611
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:02:00 EST
Reply-To:     DannyK <DKALLIN@CLARKU.BITNET>
From:         DannyK <DKALLIN@CLARKU.BITNET>
Subject:      Christmas cards...repost from recycle@umab

Date sent:  6-JAN-1993 10:01:37

The following was posted on the recycle discussion list at recycle@umab

>
>St. Jude's Ranch for Children in Boulder City Nevada, is a non-profit,
>nonsectarian child care facility dedicated to helping abused, neglected and
>troubled children and teens. They use the illustrations from cards (ALL cards
>not just Christmas cards) and precision cut and glue them onto new cards as a
>fundraiser. To send cards, cutt off the front of the card and send fronts only
>to:
>
>St. Jude's
>100 St. Jude's St.
>Dept. EMIB
>Boulder City, NV 89005



DannyK
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:06:26 PST
Reply-To:     Bill Arnett <USERARNT@UBCMTSA.BITNET>
From:         Bill Arnett <USERARNT@UBCMTSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Survey results

JSI@UCC.UWINDSOR.CA wrote:
>      total number of surveyees: 34
much deleted
>      However,   an  overwhelming  majority,   97%,  were  already
>      "converted".  Of  those  that  weren't, none  had  made  positive
>      changes.
more deleted

I think it is worth adding that the last statement is completely
meaningless.  3% of 34 is a single person.  A single individual
cannot (should not) be used to imply more general conclusions.

Cheers.  Bill.
--
Bill Arnett                         Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:35:33 -0800
Reply-To:     Bill Arnett <arnett@UNIXG.UBC.CA>
From:         Bill Arnett <arnett@UNIXG.UBC.CA>
Subject:      "Home composters now crying: Rats!"

The following appeared in the Vancouver Province newspaper today:

  HOME COMPOSTERS NOW CRYING 'RATS!'

  Canadian Press
  TORONTO --- The growing number of back-yard composters in Canada's
largest
  city may have brought relief to environmentalists---but it's meant an
  invasion of rats for homeowners.
    Exterminators say there's been a huge increase in calls from people
upset
  because rodents that first appeared in back yards have moved into houses
  to hide from the cold.
    "It's very very very bad," says Christine Reist, who owns an
extermination
  company in suburban Brampton.  "It hasn't been this bad in years. It's
  almost time to call the Pied Piper."
    While not everyone is sure whether composting is causing Toronto's rat
  problem or merely making it worse, the people fighting the rodents say
the
  city should have told people about the potential hazards.
    The city said composting was "environmentally friendly," noted another
  exterminator.
    Reist says she's logged 10 to 15 "rat-related" calls per day since the
  summer.  The previous average was one or two a day.
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Personally, I like the (absurd) implication that because composting may
contribute to rat problems that this somehow means it is *not*
environmentally
friendly.

Here in Vancouver, the city was quite explicit about ways to prevent a
compost bin from attracting rats: what to build it out of, what not to
put in it.  I built mine out of scrap wood (NOT one of the recommendations
:)
and did have a rat living in it for a couple of days.  Now my bin is made
of steel mesh embedded about 15cm into the ground, the rat never returned.

Cheers.  Bill.
--
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
Office of Budget and Planning          Internet: bill.arnett@mtsa.ubc.ca
University of British Columbia           Bitnet: arnett@ubcmtsa.bitnet
Vancouver, BC, Canada.  V6T 1Z2           Phone: (604) 822-6318
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:30:55 -0700
Reply-To:     Richard B Freeman <jeanbob@SELWAY.UMT.EDU>
From:         Richard B Freeman <jeanbob@SELWAY.UMT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The EC, an 'Egoistic Community' only?

RE:
> Instead of seriously intervening in this unfolding drama, the European
> Community has shown to be nothing more than a lame duck. It apparently is,
> as many have feared before, a European Economic Community only, its major
> goal being to increase the profitability and competitiveness of its
> industries.

Is this any major surprise?

> The EC has largely neglected its humanitarian responsibilities.
> European policy is very good at focusing on numbers, statistics and risk
> calculations.

Such is the nature of technical (operational) societies.  The idea is to
conserve those social properties that assure a liberal environment for
those people whose actions affect the relevant politics.  UN or EC
action, before it is ordained, must meet the political needs of
signification.  It must be consumable.  No surprise that nothing has
happened.

> The United States could show Europe its irresponsibility and cowardice by
> setting a admirable example like they are setting in Somalia now, dragging
> the EC out of its state of paralysis, and forcing the Community to start
> restoring order in its own neighbourhood.

Sure, the U. S. is just gleaming with honor in Somalia.  Anyone have any
idea where the Somalians got all those guns?  (During 1991, the year of
the U.S. invasion of Iraq, U.S. industries sold c. 35 billion in arms
to "third world" countries.)  Somalia is just to close to the oil fields
for the U.S. not to do something. Peace must be convenient to be
institutionalized.  Thus, the "New World Order."

As american extraordinaire R.M. Nixon said:  "Peace with Honor."

Rick Freeman
Missoula MT
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:38:03 EST
From:         Jeff Savit <JSAVIT@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PROFS or OV/VM & SFS
              23 Dec 1992 20:19:58 +0100 from <MBDMD@ROHVM1.BITNET>

OV/VM support for SFS (minimal)

Here's Daniel Friedman's mod for an SFS "A-disk" in OV/VM 1, complete with
disclaimer.

Date: 5 January 93, 15:22:26 EST
From: Daniel Friedman                                TXDANIEL at VMCMGC
To:   Jeff Savit                W-(212)-807-2084     TXJEFF   at VMCMGC

I wanted to send you the one mod for SFS for OV/VM. The other mods hit
Profs Extended Mail. If you would like to make this one public, you
should do so with the warning that this would allow OV to work with SFS
with the exception of documents. Documents make this much more complex
and since we don't use them, I never went very far in investigating the
mods required for them. However, many companies *do* use them, and should
be forewarned.

Instead of the pull on line 83 of EPQRUN EXEC, put in the following:

       Pull . 7 dir . RWstat . . bsize . bused '-' . . btotal
         If dir = 'DIR' Then
            Do
               'DROPBUF'
               'MAKEBUF'
               'QUERY LIMITS * (STACK'
                pull . . btotal bused '-' pctage '%' .
                bsize = '4096'
            end
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:19:11 EST
From:         Will Johnson <JOHNSON@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      SFS Control Group 1 questions

We have recently deleted SFS users (and added others) from one of our
filepools, and the information reported on utilization has raised several
questions which do not seem to be clearly addressed in the manuals or
discussed before on SFS-L. The before and after numbers follow.

File       Num   Max  Memory   % Occupied   % Used Cat  Stor Group % Util
Pool       Enrl  Con  Max Use  CatDataBlks  Index Blks   1   2   3   4
---------  ----  ---  -------  -----------  ----------  -----------------
INST1:     1478   11  13M/32M                           79  87

INST1:     1098   12  13M/32M       1%          1%      84  19

Our questions include:

Why has the utilization percentage increased for control storage group 1, when
the size of group 2 has decreased from 87% to 19%?

Is space reclaimed in control group 1 after users are deleted?

Does anyone know a way to find out what percentage of control group 1
is actually being used, rather than how many blocks are being used? For
example, only 50% of the space in the 84% of blocks in use may actually
be used.

Should we be concerned that control group 1 is at this level, after
deletions?

Would a FILESERV REORG reclaim space consumed by deleted entries?

Should we do a FILESERV REORG regularly after mass deletions are done?

Will Johnson                        Systems Programmer
Purdue University Computing Center  Internet: johnson@mace.cc.purdue.edu
1408 Math Building Room 236         Bitnet:   johnson@purccvm
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1408       GTE:      (317) 494-1787
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:20:05 EST
From:         Kent Fiala <SNOKLF@VM.SAS.COM>
Subject:      filepool unavailable

Lately we've seen several occurrences of

DMSSDM1151E File pool VMSYSU is unavailable

and/or

DMSJCA1152S File pool VMSYSU is unavailable; accessed directories for this
file pool are released

All the known occurrences have been in disconnected machines.  Apparently
each occurrence has affected only one user at a time, and no occurrence
has involved an actual failure of the SFS server -- at least nothing so
severe as to produce a message in the server console.

This is a particularly disruptive error to have in a disconnected server,
especially since you don't usually write code to handle the situation in
which your file system disappears out from under you.  We've had to move
one application back to good old minidisks.

A search on IBMLINK turned up nothing that looked pertinent.  Any suggestions?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kent Fiala <snoklf@vm.sas.com>
SAS Institute Inc., Cary NC 27513 USA                 919-677-8000 x6646
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:52:17 IST
From:         Hank Nussbacher <HANK@VM.BIU.AC.IL>
Subject:      15 domains get new mformat tag
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:nick..BR   :mailer.SMTPUSER@BRFAPESP   BSMTP  3       :mformat.ND PU
:nick..APPSTATE.EDU   :mailer.MAILER@APPSTATE   BSMTP  3 :mformat.ND PU
:nick.ARIZONA.EDU   :mailer.SMTPUSER@ARIZONA   BSMTP  3  :mformat.ND PU
:nick.ASU.EDU        :mailer.MAILER@ASU        BSMTP  3   :mformat.PU ND
:nick.CITADEL.EDU :mailer.MAILER@CITADEL      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick.ITHACA.EDU :mailer.MAILER@ITHACA BSMTP 3 :served.YES :mformat.ND PU
:nick..PEPPERDINE.EDU :mailer.MAILER@PEPVAX   BSMTP  3    :mformat.PU ND
:nick..TARLETON.EDU   :mailer.MAILER@TARLETON   BSMTP  3  :mformat.ND PU
:nick..UKANS.EDU    :mailer.SMTPUSER@UKANVAX  BSMTP  3     :mformat.PU ND
:nick..IS           :mailer.MAILER@SEARN      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick..MX           :mailer.MAILER@TECMTYVM   BSMTP  3    :mformat.PU DD
:nick..NORDU.NET    :mailer.MAILER@SEARN      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick.VAXFAM.DECUS.ORG :mailer.MAILER@DECUS   BSMTP 3    :mformat.ND PU
:nick..SE           :mailer.MAILER@SEARN      BSMTP  3   :mformat.ND PU
:nick..UUCP         :mailer.MAILER@UUCPGATE   BSMTP  3   :mformat.PU ND

FYI,
Hank
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:11:31 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DOMAIN NAMES new tag
              4 Jan 93 15:03:39 -0500 from Domain discussion group
              <DOMAIN-L@DEARN>

On Mon, 4 Jan 93 15:03:39 -0500 gettes@PRINCETON.EDU said:

>One item  missing from the proposal,  and will be added  shortly, is the
>requirement for INTERBIT  sites to support ND files. We  can only change
>the INTERBIT  node when  the Interbit proposals  have been  accepted and
>implemented.

I don't understand this further delay. The proposal has a requirement for
the use  of FAL,  to the  exclusion of  any other  software, and  that is
already  implemented.  FAL has  always  supported  Netdata. What  IS  the
problem? Am I going to have to  cope with problem X.400 users for another
year just because a paper hasn't (and, judging from the heavily political
looks  of the  discussion  on  INTERBIT, is  never  going  to be)  rubber
stamped? Everyone agrees that there is  a need to support mail with lines
longer  than 80  bytes. The  software is  already in  place. There  is no
problem here, unless you want to create one out of thin air.

  Eric
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:00:40 EST
From:         John Wagner <jwagner@PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DOMAIN NAMES new tag
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              04 Jan 93 12:02:08 CST." <9301041820.AA28659@Princeton.EDU>

> Allow me to rephrase!  :-)
>
> Would someone from Princeton care to comment on whether there will be
> a :servers tag added to the INTERBIT entry for SMTP?  And whether it
> will be registered as ND-capable?

I belive you can assume that all interbit gateways will support NETDATA some
day, but they do not all support it today.

A :servers tag will be added to the INTERBIT entry, but it will specify only
PU until all official interbit gateways support netdata.

   John Wagner
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:02:08 CST
From:         Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DOMAIN NAMES new tag

I said:
>>Are the domain entries in DOMAIN NAMES that are pointed at
>>SMTP@INTERBIT going to have the ":mformat.ND PU"  tag added?

Then, on Sun, 3 Jan 1993 11:01:49 IST, Hank Nussbacher <HANK@VM.BIU.AC.IL>
said:
>It all depends on what is contained in BITEARN NODES.
[...]

Allow me to rephrase!  :-)

Would someone from Princeton care to comment on whether there will be
a :servers tag added to the INTERBIT entry for SMTP?  And whether it
will be registered as ND-capable?

Thanks
Bill
>Hank
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:03:39 -0500
From:         gettes@PRINCETON.EDU
Subject:      Re: DOMAIN NAMES new tag
              04 Jan 93 12:02:08 -0600. <9301041822.AA28906@Princeton.EDU>

On Mon, 04 Jan 93 12:02:08 -0600 harvey@wuvmd.bitnet said:
> Would someone from Princeton care to comment on whether there will be
> a :servers tag added to the INTERBIT entry for SMTP?  And whether it
> will be registered as ND-capable?

You may or may not be aware that a proposal has been put out for the
definition and implementation of the INTERBIT service for the entire
NJE network. Discussion of this issue is taking place on the INTERBIT
list which is now open for subscription. One item missing from the
proposal, and will be added shortly, is the requirement for INTERBIT
sites to support ND files. We can only change the INTERBIT node when
the Interbit proposals have been accepted and implemented.

In short, soon (I hope).

/mrg
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:26:10 -0700
From:         "Bryce Carey, CNS,
              Admin. Sys. Group" <CAREY_B@CUBLDR.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: _Voyage to the Island_ by R.R.N. (a Finnish Subject Verb
              Object book?)

From:   Carey_b@cubldr.colorado.edu

Someone  (no signature line) wrote:

>Finnish isn't any Subject Verb Object Language, but English lacks the
>necessary casuses.  I know, since my mother tongue is Sami, a near relative
>to Finnish.
>
>So it's better to blame the translator, maybe.

Excuse me, but what is a 'casuses' it's certainly not in my
English dictionary. The closest is:

Casuist, one given to casuistry... casuistry: sophistical equivocation.

Surely this is not what you mean? English rhetoric is FULL of it!

Perhaps you mean Finnish is an inflected language?

-Bryce
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:45:47 EST
From:         Sharon Jacobson HPERD <jacobson@MOE.COE.UGA.EDU>
Subject:      lesibgays
              93 12:03 am

Please respond privately to the following message.  Thanks!!
January 6, 1993

A faculty member of The University of Georgia School of Social Work is
conducting research related to the social support systems of gay and lesbian
hearing impaired and deaf persons.  The study is being conducted by Dr. Carol
T. Tully, Assistant Professor and Sharon Jacobson, M.A., a doctoral student.
We are currently seeking individuals to be a part of this study.

Results of this important study will enable professional social workers to
better understand the needs of a long overlooked minority group -- lesbian and
gay hearing impaired and deaf persons.  Results will be used to develop
scholarly papers and curriculum materials related to the social service needs
of lesbian and gay hearing impaired and deaf persons.

The procedures are as follows:
     1.   Answer the questions contained in the questionnaire as completely
               as possible;
     2.   In the margins, note any items you feel to be unclear or hard to
          understand;
     3.   Make any additional comments at the end of the survey;
     4.   Return the survey form in the enclosed stamped, addressed
          envelope.

The entire process ought to take no more than 20 minutes of your time and no
stress or discomfort is foreseen.  Also, there is no foreseen psychological,
physical, legal, or social risk associated with your participation in this
study.

The results of the study will be anonymous.  If you would like to be a part of
this study please write or call Dr. Carol T. Tully at (706) 542-5419 (voice
only) or call Dr. Tully through Georgia Relay at 1-800-255-0056 (tdd or e-mail
through jacobson@moe.coe.uga.edu).  You may also request a copy of this survey
by mailing a request to:  Dr. Carol T. Tully; The University of Georgia;
School of Social Work; Athens, Georgia, 30602.

Thank you for your help with this important project.

Sincerely,



Carol T. Tully, Ph.D.                   Sharon Jacobson, M. A.

Research at The University of Georgia which involves human participants is
carried out under the oversight of the Institutional Review Board.  Questions
or problems regarding your rights as a participant should be addressed to
Heidi L. Roof, M.S., Institutional Review Board; Office of V.P. for Research;
The University of Georgia, 604A Graduate Studies Research Center; Athens,
Georgia  30602-7411; Telephone (706) 542-6514.

Again, please respond privately to this request.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:06:21 +0200
From:         Omer Zak <XLACHA1@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Insurance for deaf car drivers

A question related to driving license (which was menioned in one of
previous postings):
It used to be a statistics (and presumably lobbying-point) that deaf
drivers are involved in less accidents than hearing ones.  Is it still
the case nowadays?

At any case, when getting car insurance, I was not required to pay any
surcharge to 'compensate' for my deafness.

I am curious to know whether this is the case in general.
                                                       --- Omer
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