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From: stricher@masig3.ocean.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:33:36 GMT
Distribution: na

Kevin Klinge writes
+ In article <8223@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)  
writes:

+ |> As much as I love to hate the University of God, I'd have to say that
+ |> the worst repeat offender is Michigan. If FSU hadn't been spanking them
+ |> so hard last year, I would have puked if I heard Hail to the Victors one
+ |> more time. As it was, it seemed like a cruel joke! ;)
+ 
+ No, you must be thinking of your own "Chop Chop Song" or whatever it's 
+ called.  "Hail to the Victors" is mostly played after a score or at the 

+ That will go down IMHO as the most overplayed song/chant I ever heard 
+ in 1991.  I mean, its not like there are any words to ease the monotony 
+ either!;-)

Not true! Heard at the Cotton Bowl [to the tune of the FSU chant]:

AAAGGGGGIEEESS AGGGGIEES AGGGIEEES

James
From: tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: academics
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:57:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CAD-Research, U. of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa

From article <1992Apr9.152849.13707@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, by jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher):
> The Big 10 is definitely not an athletic conference only.
> There are some cooperative academic and research programs
> among schools. I believe the U. of Chicago is also involved
> in some of these.

	Well I don't know about *cooperative* research programs, because the
recent NADS (National Driving Simulator) was fiercly competed for by some
Big Ten schools.  Iowa coming out with the $32 million projuect, some of
the other schools in the running where Micigan and Michigan St.  
		
	The new Big Ten Symbol with the 11 in the Big Ten was created at Northern Illinios I believe.  Speaking of academics and the BigTen, please note that
it is the Big Ten, not the Big 10, or any other sort of name with a number. 
Just a little pet peeve I guess.   

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From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Colt's Picks
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:58:10 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Apr16.220927.8366@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
--Obl. r.s.f.c. : how do you drink your iced tea?

Ice?  You people put ice in your tea?

- goob (and i suppose that some of you sissy-boys put sugar in it too) smith

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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: ND 1992 Football Schedule
Keywords: Notre Dame, Big Ten
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:22:04 GMT

Richard Scott Hall writes:

>Gee, if ND plays anymore Big Ten teams, they might
>as well join the conference...

Little known fact, Normy . . .

Notre Dame applied for admission into the Great Western Conference back around 
1911.  The league decided that Notre Dame's demands were too high and told them
to stick it.  Whoops.

     - Pat
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- The Ohio State University ----------- Guk a 'mzimba Sala 'nhliziyo ------
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From: manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:07:37 GMT

In article <12073@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith) writes:
>
>Some of us goobers want to know too.

what's a goober?

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mcamp@utkux1.utk.edu (Mark Campbell)
Subject: University of TN '92 Football Schedule
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:57:10 GMT


The 1992 UT Football Schedule:


Grid Orange '92

Sept 5	- Southwestern Louisiana  @ Knoxville
Sept 12	- Georgia		  @ Athens (see ya there)
Sept 19	- Florida		  @ Knoxville (revenge baby!)
Sept 26	- Cincinnati		  @ Knoxville
Oct  3	- LSU			  @ Baton Rouge
Oct  10	- Arkansas		  @ Knoxville (welcome to the SEC)
Oct  17	- Alabama		  @ Alabama (the tide stops here)
Oct  31	- South Carolina	  @ Columbia
Nov  14	- Memphis State		  @ Memphis
Nov  21	- Kentucky		  @ Knoxville
Nov  28 - Vanderbilt		  @ Nashville

Dec  5	- SEC Championship Game   @ Birmingham

University of Tennessee Volunteers -- 1992 SEC Champions

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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Another Time Wasting Topic
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:43:09 GMT

Rob Butera writes:

>Fight/School songs.  The best.  The worst.  The stupidest.

I'll refrain from voting for Notre Dame.  That said,

Best: Stein Song - Maine
      (A fine fight song indeed!)

Worst: Anchors Aweigh, Off We Go ...
       (Not bad songs, but I just don't make the with sports)

Stupidest: I abstain - I don't want to make the Trojans mad . . .

     - pat
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- Patrick E. Fleming ------------------------------------------------------
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From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:28:45 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida State University

In article <4APR199216151994@zeus.tamu.edu> bdf2430@zeus.tamu.edu (FOJTASEK, BRIAN DAVID) writes:
>Is this guy for real...  Sure t.u. has a great graduate program (in those 
>   extremely important fields like philosophy and psychology of asphalt 
>   pavements), but for undergraduate work, A&M is a neck ahead of t.u.
    ^^^^^^^^^^

Hey hey! Watch it there bud, it didn't come from t.u., but that's what
*my* degree is in!

Sheesh, more slams like that and I'll actually have to start calling it
UT again...

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Miami and the Big East (was ANYONE INTERESTED IN GATORS' SCHEDULE)
Keywords: Miami, Big East, 92 Schedule
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 17:30:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.165820.23529@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, lein@base.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver) writes:
|> 
|> Miami came out of this a big winner finanically, share the Big East basketball 
|> money and pretty much dictate the financial terms for having their football team
|> play in the Big East.
|> 
|> The big loosers will probably be the Atlantic 10 schools in this conference,
|> Not only do they have the Big East cutting their finicial throat in Basketball
|> but now have to share their football revenue with them.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, I guess Rutgers, Temple, WVU, and Va Tech (even though not an A10 school)
are really going to be hurt by sharing football revenue with the likes of
Miami and Syracuse, two teams who go bowling most years during the holidays.  
Some teams should be so unfortunate!

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: University of TN '92 Football Schedule
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:34:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

bleaf@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (briboy) wrote:
}
}    May I ask who doesn't think of Alabama as the biggest game on their 
}schedule? 

Yes, last season it was Temple, Florida, Georgia, Vanderbilt, UT-Chattanooga,
Tulane, Mississippi State, LSU, and Memphis State.

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                                      | mm42@prism.gatech.edu
From: emilio@bnr.ca (Emilio Rivera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:42:50 GMT

That about sums everything up. :)
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: ANYONE INTERESTED IN GATORS' SCHEDULE
Keywords: Fightin' Gators, 92 Schedule
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 13:30:33 GMT

In article <35046@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, abbasi@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU writes:
|> 
|> If anybody is interested I can post the 92 schedule for the Gators.
|> If there is further interest, a list of their recruits can also be
|> posted. Let me know !!

Yeah, I'd be interested.
BTW, Are you guys and Miami playing this year?

Pandora's Box is now open...

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Maryland's schedule
Date: 17 Apr 92 11:43:50 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Does anyone have Maryland's schedule for next year, including where the games
are to be played?  I am looking forward to the Mark Duffner era!
From: jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:14:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <4APR199216151994@zeus.tamu.edu> bdf2430@zeus.tamu.edu (FOJTASEK, BRIAN DAVID) writes:
[post about UT being better than A&M deleted--this is RamFo's response:]
>Is this guy for real...  Sure t.u. has a great graduate program (in those 
>   extremely important fields like philosophy and psychology of asphalt 
>   pavements), but for undergraduate work, A&M is a neck ahead of t.u.
>
>(Yes I did research this before deciding to come to A&M, not just flippant
>  biased remarks.)
>
>As for Engineering graduates, both schools are very close. (No Lib. Arts here 
>folks.  Just the necessary stuff so that people like you can live comfortably)

While I realize that we are only dealing with the topic of COLLEGE FOOTBALL
here indirectly (how academic reputations affect conference affiliations), and
I generally prefer to post only articles that are more directly related to
the newsgroup topic, I can't let the preceding misleading statements go
unchallenged.

As for the assertion that The University of Texas (that really hurts those
A&M folks to know that everyone calls it that ;-) is better in "psychology
and philosophy of asphalt pavements" and other useless things: UT is ranked
higher than A&M in EVERY poll I have ever seen of ANY graduate program
(whether RamFo considers it a worthy discipline or not). The latest poll was
the one in U.S. News and World Report: UT ranked higher in graduate engineering
(a worthy discipline even to RamFo, although he neglects to mention that UT
is ranked HIGHER, saying only that they are close), graduate business, and
law (does A&M even have a law school?). I don't remeber seeing A&M ranked
higher in any of the liberal arts fields, either.

As for the undergraduate rankings, UT and Rice are the only SWC schools
ranked in the top 25 in ANYBODY'S survey--sorry, but A&M is in the next
quartile. This has already been posted (by a Rice person, I believe)
in this newsgroup. I have read at least two polls showing this before
but I'd admitedly be hard pressed to remember these sources (over a year
ago). Maybe the Rice person can...

A&M is better at veterinary medicine, agricultural science, and I'm sure
some other things. Overall, however, UT's undergraduate program, and its
graduate schools, are all ranked higher than A&M's. The closest competition
is in the engineering program, where A&M is not far behind. UT is much farther
ahead in liberal arts, business, etc. I would like to see a poll rating the
natural sciences--I know UT is better in astronomy and physics, but I have
no idea how they compare in chemistry, math, and biology.

Jay Boisseau
Astronomy Department
From: chu@nero.mit.edu (Bill Chu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Tennesse vs. Ala<to hell with>bama
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:51:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Submicron Structures Laboratory, MIT

In article <kup3c6INNc2m@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> kallen@cs.utk.edu (Karl Allen) writes:
>
>I just noticed on a recently posted schedule of Tennessee's 1992
>season that Alabama is listed as an away game. Is this true? We
>played down there last year, but perhaps with the SEC re-alignment
>home-away patterns got mixed up. I had hoped that this year's 
>match-up would be in Knoxville, seeing as how our team is going to be 
>fairly young. Can someone confirm/deny that the game will be an away
>game for UT?

What's the word on the Vols out of Spring Practice?  Have they had
the Orange and White game yet?  I guess they lost a lot of players
on defense to graduation.  It should be interesting to see how they
do this year.

                                     -- Bill
                                      Vols Fan



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chu@mtl.mit.edu                        MIT Submicron Structures Lab
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Answer: WAI#7
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:16:03 GMT
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  
  
  This one must have been too easy...


  Who Am I #07?
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  My brother and I were both linemen and teammates. My fearsome play -
  no Father Murphy was I - earned me a spot in the Hall of Fame.

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  Who is it?

  Merlin Olsen.

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  bill

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From: mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson)
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:21:32 GMT

In article <70214@ut-emx.uucp>, jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.184954.9585@news.larc.nasa.gov> mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson) writes:
>>
>>um, lets keep the subject off of embarassing mascots, ok?
>>
>
>C'mon, Mike, having a Fighting Gobbler as a mascot isn't
>so bad. Why, I'm sure there are at least a half-dozen life forms that are
>_terrified_ at the thought of facing an enraged turkey. Worms, some insects,
>hmmm, help me out here.... 
>

This isn't fair.  I'm sure *all* insects would be terrified of an enraged turkey.
(well, the real small ones anyway)

Of course, you neglected to mention that by Va Tech not letting UVa out of
its contract to play the VT/UVA game at the end of the season, that you
will always be playing the "fighting gobblers" around Thanksgiving.  
Worked for you this year :-(

Perhaps the only redeeming factor of being a gobbler/turkey is that their
is no danger of an American car manufacturer naming a poorly
built econo-box after us... 

Michael Nelson

>Jay
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From: mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson)
Subject: gobblers, wahoos, yellowjackets (was Re: SWC) 
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:47:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.113949.6716@news.larc.nasa.gov>, cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.210529.12310@rice.edu> rbutera@sawwhet.owlnet.rice.edu (Rob Butera) writes:
>>
>>Back when I was at GT and we played Virginia Tech, there was a bit of campus
>>folklore that said that a Hokie (I think that's what they're called) is
>>really a castrated turkey.  Is this true, or just another piece for the
>>storybooks?  Someday I'll bother looking it up ...
>
>It's true - although some won't admit to it. Last year at the UVa-Va. Tech
>game, a Tech student tried to convince me that the team is known as the
>"Fighting Gobblers" because they football players tended to "gobble
>their food" (she was serious!). She didn't have an answer for why they
>are referred to as Hokies, nor did she have a clue when pressed about why
>there was this big ugly bird standing right in front of us! The way she
>told it, it just flew in for Thanksgiving. Now, I guess we know why
>Michael wanted the subject kept off of embarrassing mascots. 
>
>

The bit about "gobbling up food" I have heard before.  I guess its true.
What you neglected to mention is the time frame of this - not too far
after the turn of the century I believe.  Va Tech was still a all-male military
ag/engr school.   This group of people are not generally known for their
humor - I suppose it was funny to them.

No one refers to them as the fighting gobblers that graduated after WWII or
so.  These are the same people that refer to the school as "VPI" as 
opposed to "Va Tech".

And "hokie" comes from a fight song written also about the turn of the
century.  It was just a bunch of sounds that had no real meaning.  I don't
know how "hokie" became popular.  I'm sure that you will correct me if
I'm wrong :-), but didn't "wahoo" come from a fight song with no particular
meaning?  Being a cavalier over a gobbler is one thing, but I'm not 
convinced that "wahoo" is any better than "hokie".  both pretty silly and fun.

Michael Nelson
>
>-- 
>Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
>NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
>U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1991 Women's ACC BB Champs.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mln@icase.edu (Michael Nelson)
Subject: Re: Turkey Dinners (Re: Hokie/Gobbler - the REAL answer)
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:50:13 GMT

>|> At any rate, you should remember not to mess with the Cavalier - he's
>|> already sent a turtle to the hospital, imagine what would happen to
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Do tell, I don't think I've heard this one...

hey, it was only a turtle, nothing important like a cow or pig or anyother
farmyard animal...  now that would get VT upset...

>|> a turkey. Of course, now that we have one that rides out on a horse, he
>|> can just trample the bird and be done with it. :-)

>Well, as long as your mascot doesn't resort to fire arms like "Daniel Boone"
>from WVU does, I'm sure the Hokie Bird will have a trick up his sleeve
>to thwart any "dog and pony show" the Cavalier could russle up...

Well, this brings up what I think is the coolest tradition for Va Tech 
football: the skipper cannon.  I'm sure some other schools have similar
things, but this is *real and full size* cannon.  spewing flames and large
clouds of smoke, you can feel it in your chest when they fire it (whenever
they score, and in my first 2 years, we didn't hear that often...)

You've got to laugh when WVU fires their musket and we fire the cannon.

Michael Nelson
From: blance@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian J Lance)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hokie/Gobbler - the REAL answer
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:01:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr14.152304.20832@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
>
>BTW Charlie, you are right about our mascot needing a new costume. I'll 
>grant you that.  I personally liked the one before that existed in the 
>mid-80's.
>

No way, IMHO, the current Hokie bird is the best of all the ones I have
seen in the past. The worst ever was that one back in the early 80's-
late 70's where he had a really long neck. Now THAT was embarressing.
The new one is cool because he is like a powerful strong turkey (if that
can exist).  :)


>-- 
>
>Kevin H. Klinge
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Brian Lance
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Purdue, 1992

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Nice copy, huh! Just for this, don't worry, I'm not going to
steal your .sig
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne "Goober" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC (was Re: 1992 Bowl matchups)
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:17:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.11997
Distribution: na
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <70005@ut-emx.uucp> jay@astro.as.utexas.edu (Jay Boisseau) writes:

[jay creams all over himself while describing UT academic prowess]

Yeah but your mascot is a cow.

- gary (are you guys really proud of this) smith

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From: rhodes@utkux1.utk.edu (William A. Rhodes)
Subject: Re: Tennessee schedule
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:58:58 GMT

In article <ddavidson.31@cbacc.cba.uga.edu> ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (Dennis Davidson) writes:
>Would someone please post the Tennessee 1992 football schedule. Thanking you 
>in advance.

>Dennis Davidson  ddavidson@cbacc.cba.uga.edu

I think that the Tennessee 1992 footbal schedule is delayed this year while
they dig up enough High School teams to play.
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      "Without a rich heart, wealth is like an ugly beggar." _Emerson