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From: tnorthtj@cc.curtin.edu.au (Tim North)
Subject: "Knight Moves" plot question
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:18:01 GMT

I just saw "Knight Moves" last night and, boy, am I confused!

What was that high-pitched sound and flash of light before each of the
murders?

Thanks in advance,
Tim North.
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From: pacomius@maths.uwa.oz.au (Chris Smith (with the beard))
Subject: Re: Who's got a strong stomach?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:05:50 GMT

smac@iconix.oz.au (Stuart McCormack) writes:

>G'day.  Spent a couple of hours last night watching Catch Fire.
>Not a bad cast; Joe D Foster, Charlie Sheen ( probably his best
>ever part ), whosit Pesci, Dennis Hopper, et al.

[ stuff deleted ]

>Does Hopper "hit" the mafia guys and they all live happily ever
>after? Naw.  Does he hit them and have Jodi hit him? Naw. Does
>it suddenly turn completely around, become well scripted and
>tightly acted and add a bit of spice to the supposedly erotic
>bits? Naw. Does it just wind off the end of the tape? Hmm.

>Anyway, does anyone know what happened.  Neatest correct entry
>wins the QIKEZE award for 1992.

>	smac

I think I've seen this, or at least the end of it. If so, ...
DH keeps a helicopter at his mountain hideaway ( in case of emergencies,
you understand ), and he and JF use this to escape the mob. They realise
that they will never get a moments peace however, and so arrange a
meeting with the Godfather et al at some petroleum refinery, which DH
has booby trapped. The whole thing goes up in some very satisfying
pyrotechnics, and the final scene shows DH and JF crawling out from
under some wreckage, stripping off their asbestos suits, and running
away - hand in hand

If it had become well scripted and tightly acted by the time I started
watching, then it must have been exceptionally bad in the earlier
stages.
From: voros@physics.monash.edu.au (Joe Voros)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:11:19 +1000
Distribution: aus
Organization: Physics Department, Monash University, Australia.

cmg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Chris Gersch) writes:
> I saw Patriot Games last night, and left with mixed feelings. 
> [...]
> There were ridiculous things like satellite photos of terrorist camps.
> Fair enough, you say, but in these photos you could make out people's
> faces!

I have been drafted to demonstrate a Computer Imaging course to
second years, and I can tell you that there exist some very nifty tricks
for improving the quality of an image.  The most direct way of getting
rid of the blurriness caused by atmospheric motion is to take lots of
images and ``add'' them.  The random noise tends to wash out, and the
``signal,'' the underlying image you want to see, tends to be
re-inforced.  The ``quality'' of the image improves as \sqrt{N} where N
is the number of *different* images used to construct the final.  The
difficulty would be in acquiring enough images fast enough to give a
real-time moving final image.  Given the level of modern circuitry, this
has probably been done.

It is also possible to ``explode'' gray scales (separate close ones,
that is) to produce a better contrast for the eye.  There are several
edge detection masks which may be applied to highlight edges, and so on.
False colour?  No problem!  And other stuff...

And this is just what we know about!  No doubt the US military has been
working on this for a *very* long time...

-- 
Joe Voros
Department of Physics, Monash University, Clayton, VIC, 3168, Australia.
Quantum Mechanics is God's way of telling you to mind your P_i's and Q_j's.

Newsgroups: aus.films
From: fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson)
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:03:59 GMT

ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis) writes:

>PS although I must admit the preview DID look good.

Well, that's the thing, isn't it?  In fact, the preview looks bloody
excellent.  The flag is quite a nice bit of graphics, and it all looks
rather exciting.  Indeed, I have hopes that when the movie is released
on video, we'll just get the preview followed by, say, Star Wars.
With the bit about Biggs intact, preferably.

Just dreaming...

Fraser.
Newsgroups: aus.films
From: philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens)
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:28:12 GMT

Chris Karadaglis writes:

>Even more ridiculous is allowing Harrison to enter such rooms where all
>the fancy equipment was when he decided to re-enter the CIA for >revenge<.
>Allowing his character to be motivated by personal reasons and use CIA
>as a tool isn't quite right...

  Yes, but...if you were watching Harrison's reaction to the events being
played out on the satellite screen, you would have noticed that he was somewhat
distressed over how much power he really had over the lives of those people in
the camp.  He obviously realised it was not something to be taken lightly.
  Personally I thought the film was good, and was not as stereotyped as it may
have appeared on the surface.  But then, perhaps I was reading into things
based on my own personal attitudes :-)

  Philip Stephens
  Labtam Australia Pty Ltd
  philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.films,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: dazz@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr D.K. Woodman)
Subject: Re: Film suggestions welcomed
Keywords: Guy wants suggestion on film
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:32:04 GMT

In article <dld.715330512@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au> dld@cs.monash.edu.au (Film date) writes:
>   Hello, humanity.   I am looking for a film to take a fairly new lady
>friend of mine to.  So far, we've only had a couple of lunches and a phone

"Housesitter" is good. Funny lines and a silly plot.

Another screamer is "Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter" at the Kino in the city.

Another goodie is at the new Cinema in Carlton (Cimena Nova). It's called
"The Favour, The Watch & The Very Big Fish"

Finally "White Men Can't Jump" is supposed to be good but I can't vouch
for it as I haven't seen it yet.

dazz


Newsgroups: aus.films,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: Quinn <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Film suggestions welcomed
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 01: 49:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:54:25 GMT

In article <dld.715330512@bruce.cs.monash.edu.au> Film date,
dld@cs.monash.edu.au writes:
>   Hello, humanity.   I am looking for a film to take a fairly new lady
>friend of mine to.  So far, we've only had a couple of lunches and a
phone
>call or 2 or 3.  Something with either some "humanitarian" meaning or
comedy
>would be nice.  I am inclined not to opt for an "adventure" film at this

In article <3053@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> Ross Howden,
ross@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU replies:
>Try "Strictly Ballroom" it is very entertaining and has a lot of
unexpected 
>humour. The old cine newsreel that shows with it in the city is also
worth
>a look.
>Lets not forget to support Australian films  .

Who cares if it's Australian, it's a wonderful film.  And with cross
platform applicability (so to speak).  Definitely recommended
for that "mission critical film experience".

Quinn "The Eskimo!"      <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>     "Support HAVOC!"
Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia
  -- The newsreel was fun too.  My god, it was only 35 years ago!
From: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks fans look here!
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:51:31 GMT
Reply-To: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au
Distribution: aus
Organization: Depts. of Computer Science & Psychology, The University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

In article <9224413.21477@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller) writes:
>I am a huge fan of the series Twin Peaks and would like to hear from other
>fans of the TV series and up and coming film. If you would like to mail me
>I would be very pleased. So all you T.P. fans out there send in a message to NN or to me!

Try alt.tv.twin-peaks. But be warned: some folks there have seen the
movie and are dumping SPOILERS all over the place.


paultje
--
(paul) bakker@cs.uq.oz.au     >  "Although the Australian accent does
computer science/ psychology  >   not lend itself as a pointer to
university of qld 4072        >   intellect, ... "
terra australis               >   The (British) Sunday Telegraph, 1992
Newsgroups: aus.films
From: u9245340@cs.uow.edu.au (Nicholas Daniel Boyle)
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 04:57:22 GMT

quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au (Quinn) writes:

>Remember that the SR-71 Blackbird reconnaisance planes (which could
>reportedly photograph golf balls from their cruising altitude
>of somewhere between 30,000 and 50,000 feet) were taken out of
>service because a) they were expensive and b) the satellites could do
>just as good a job.

bullshit... the SR-71 Blackbird's crusing altitude is more like 100,000 to
120,000 feet because anyone can shoot down a plane at 30,000 feet that is
NORMAL crusing altitude for a jumbo.... SR-71's can only achieve the speeds
they do because there is no wind resistance that far up.... thus the 
resolution of the photos would have to pretty good for anyone to see anything.

ever tried flying a hanglider at 1000 feet? It amazes me that they can see 
anything at all at an altitude of 120,000 feet.

-- 
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Newsgroups: aus.films
From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Subject: Review: Strictly Ballroom
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Distribution: aus
Date: 26 Aug 92 06:59:18 GMT

Paul Mercurio wants to win the Australian Dance Federation Pan-Pacifics, 
dancing his own steps - heresy in the skewed world of Strictly Ballroom. His
coach (and his marvellously hysteric mother) know he'll win, if he just uses
steps that work - not this "flashy, crowdpleasing stuff." He refuses;
his partner leaves. His career is over: everything he's worked for since age 
six! Only Tara Morice will dance his steps and she's so inexperienced she's 
never danced with a partner before! They practice! A lot! Tara's father - who,
unexpectedly, is an excellent flamenco dancer - teaches them the Dance of Love!
Mercurio squares his chin! They prepare for the final contest!

But the plot's unimportant. Strictly Ballroom's appeal is the supercheesy 
situations and characters. Baz Lurhman directs a dementedly kitsch standalone
version of suburban Australia, peopled with twisted cliches: ambitious 
mothers, cowardly fathers with unrevealed inner strength, bratty but well
meaning kids, and especially Bill Hunter as the wicked Dance Federation 
Chairman. How evil is he? Very. He wears fake tan - and a toupee!

See it. It's lurid, completely overboard; no movie feels quite as good as this.
The opening sequence (a mock-documentary cross of "Poison" and "Rocky") is the 
equal of anything by Almodovar. The rest is relentless: a ruthlessly edited and 
confidently flashy takeoff of underdog movies, held together by a thin plot.
Mercurio's acting is passable, but he really is sex on legs. The dancing is 
also sex on legs. If you've seen the Mambo Kings, Ballroom is sexier and 
infinitely sillier. It's rare an Australian movie will move this far from 
realism (predictably, the film establishment are already blowing chunks). That's
the appeal: Ballroom is not like Australian movies, independent or otherwise.
Paul Hogan is thankfully absent - if not from the publicity campaigns; so are 
crocodiles, the outback and any hint of cultural cringe. Lurhman wallows in a 
suburbia you've never quite seen before.

More than worthwhile. Hardened film reviewers cheered.

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
love is in the air.
Newsgroups: aus.films
From: u9211306@cc.uow.edu.au (Elpidio S Jabonete Jr)
Subject: Re: Name this film!
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 04:20:20 GMT


	You mean "The House" ?
Newsgroups: aus.films
From: cameron@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Cameron Simpson)
Subject: Re: "Knight Moves" plot question
Reply-To: cameron@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Cameron Simpson)
Organization: CS&E Computing Facility, Uni Of NSW, Oz
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:34:53 GMT

warwick@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (WarFish) writes:
| tnorthtj@cc.curtin.edu.au (Tim North) writes:
| >I just saw "Knight Moves" last night and, boy, am I confused!
| >What was that high-pitched sound and flash of light before each of the
| >murders?
| 
| I was puzzled by this a bit myself.  About the only thing I could come up
| with was maybe they were flashes from a (presumably high powered) camera
| flash.

It was. Remember Peter gets mailed a set of facial shots of the murdered girls?
Of course, the facial shots were post-murder, so one theorises one shot to
blind the victim, then another photo session once the victim is overcome...
	- Cameron Simpson
	  cameron@cs.unsw.oz.au
From: allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Date: 25 Aug 92 00:16:34 GMT
Reply-To: allanc@cluster.cs.su.oz (Restless Wanderer)
Distribution: aus
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia

In article <9223712.15720@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> cmg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Chris Gersch) writes:
>
>There were ridiculous things like satellite photos of terrorist camps.
>Fair enough, you say, but in these photos you could make out people's
>faces!

	On Channel 9 (sydney) at 11.20 pm or so,was the making of 
	Patriot Games.They showed exactly what you describe.This was used
	by the technology of the CIA in the Gulf War and does exist.
	The show was an eye opener for the sceptics.

>The person I saw it with said that during the Gulf war, he read an article
>in the paper (probably the Age) that said the American satellites could 
>detect the difference between 3 oranges sitting on a runway, and 2. Yeah right.

	See above.Some of this stuff was highly sensitive but made available for	the actors and directors by the CIA.They claimed it was for counter
	terrorists..... sure ask Nixon.

>
>I think my only problem with it was that the movie was presented as real
>life in the world of terrorists and the CIA (the CIA even had a homely
>granny working for them, so they couldn't run drugs or guns could they).
>
>Chris
	Well according to the show on TV ,that is exactly what they
	encounter.
	Sunday (the program) recently ran a show on the Ulster Defence Army
	and the IRA.This gem showed just how sophistcated both smallish
	terrorists have become.
	
	I havent seen the show but after having watched the making of it
	I'll be there to check the reality.
	One quote on the scenes by the director went something like...
	" we asked the CIA for assistance in the making of this show ,sow
	so that people at the movies would not say ,,Ah this is unbelievable.
	We don't want people to nitpick in this area."
	I'll be interested to see how his statements stands up.

	Oh well ,I just though I'd pass that on.
From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:07:44 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <Anthony_Horan.04vk@guru.pub.uu.oz.au>, Anthony_Horan@guru.pub.uu.oz.au (Anthony Horan) writes:
> In a message dated Tue 11 Aug 92 21:59, Bigred@euler.maths.monash.edu.au
> wrote:
> 
>  B> film of the last seven days of Laura Palmer's life). It's fantastic.
>  B> When is it coming out here? I didn't really keep track of the series
> 
> It's being handled in Australia by Village Roadshow Distributors, who were
> originally planning to release it through art-house cinemas (the Kino was
> mentioned at the time), but are now planning a wider release. Expect it
> HOPEFULLY before Christmas, although if it doesn't turn up by November,
> you'll probably wait until next year.
> 
> I'll post more info about the release of this film as soon as the
> distributors will admit to knowing something about it.... :-)
> 
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Via DLG Pro v0.992
> 
> (@)  (@)  Anthony Horan        |  Internet: anthony_horan@guru.pub.uu.oz.au
>    UU     Melbourne, Australia |  or if that doesn't get me,
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> 
> Amiga Release 2 - some have it, others just feel blue. And orange. And
> white..

You don't know anything about the New Zealand release of the film, do you?

Richard.
From: warwick@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (WarFish)
Newsgroups: aus.films
Subject: Re: "Knight Moves" plot question
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:12:31 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

tnorthtj@cc.curtin.edu.au (Tim North) writes:

>I just saw "Knight Moves" last night and, boy, am I confused!

>What was that high-pitched sound and flash of light before each of the
>murders?

I was puzzled by this a bit myself.  About the only thing I could come up
with was maybe they were flashes from a (presumably high powered) camera
flash.  The ads on TV seem to show more of this than I remember was in the
film (I saw an advance screening some time ago).  They show what looks like
a flash bulb in a gloved hand being crushed/exploding.

				WarFish (Sengyo)

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From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Subject: Hunt for Red October (Was Re: Patriot Games)
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:10:14 GMT

In <1992Aug25.035217.25758@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au> quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au (Quinn) writes:

>Ah, I wont defend Patriot Games as a film and I wont defend Tom Clancy
>as an author buuuuttttt....

>And if you remember back to when Hunt For Red October was released
>there was some discussion about the depth of the Tom Clancy's knowledge
>of things military.  [Of course that was submarines and this is
>satellites but still...]

One of the things about 'The Hunt For Red October' that I have heard
is that it was directly or indirectly supported by the Navy - who gave
lots of the first print run to Senators just before an appropriations
vote for the Navy. If this is true, then Clancy would have received
more help than most authors. Ever since that book, he's been the darling
of the US defence forces - mainly Naval and covert - he seems to leave
the army to Larry Bond and (whoever it was who wrote 'Team Yankee').

>Now if you want something unbelievable I think the *real* *time*
>*thermal* *imagine* link to the satellite was a bit rich.  But
>what do I know?

Given how fast this field can advance, and that they wouldn't show us
this stuff if it were too new, then I'd believe it.

>  -- Big Bird is watching you!

Being a KH-12 Spy satellite, I presume ;^)

regards,
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From: ross@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Ross Howden)
Newsgroups: aus.films,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Film suggestions welcomed
Keywords: Guy wants suggestion on film
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:05:28 GMT
Followup-To: aus.films
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Melbourne

Try "Strictly Ballroom" it is very entertaining and has a lot of unexpected humour. The old cine newsreel that shows with it in the city is also worth a look.
Lets not forget to support Australian films  .

Ross
Newsgroups: aus.films
From: cmg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Chris Gersch)
Subject: Patriot Games
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:36:52 GMT

I saw Patriot Games last night, and left with mixed feelings. For me it 
worked well as a suspense and a science fiction, but failed politically,
and emotionally. Actually it seemed to be a subtle propaganda movie made
for the Gulf war.

There were ridiculous things like satellite photos of terrorist camps.
Fair enough, you say, but in these photos you could make out people's
faces!

The person I saw it with said that during the Gulf war, he read an article
in the paper (probably the Age) that said the American satellites could 
detect the difference between 3 oranges sitting on a runway, and 2. Yeah right.

The good guys family made the Brady bunch seem like the Gary Web on PCP. They
were just so incredibly happy I was looking for smirks on the actors faces.
The terrorist were more evil than Mr Bad, killing eachother and innocent
people as a matter of course - just like real life.

I think my only problem with it was that the movie was presented as real
life in the world of terrorists and the CIA (the CIA even had a homely
granny working for them, so they couldn't run drugs or guns could they).

Chris

Newsgroups: aus.films
From: sgccstr@citec.oz.au (Shaun Travers)
Subject: Name this film!
Organization: CITEC
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:57:31 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I hate to send a "Name this film" request but this one film has
been on my girlfriend's and I's mind for simply ages.

The movie is Australian, shown on ABC about 3 years ago Friday
night. The plot is based around 3 or 4 people meeting up many years
after they had once lived together during the late sixties. The
reason they are meeting is the house they used to live in is
about to be demolished and their friend who committed suicide is 
buried under it. Most of the film is taken up with them trying to
find a place to put the bones and revealing more about the lives
of the 3-4 people. One is a woman who is a barrel girl for some
show, another is an architect?. It was extremely amusing.

Just a title would help!

Thanks for spending time reading this.

-shaun

-- 
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"Age doesn't matter (unless you're a cheese!)" - Anon