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From: allen%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Allen Sanderson)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.backcountry,rec.climbing
Subject: avalanche tranceivers
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:21:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept


As part of a pro-form I recently ordered a bunch of Pieps Transcievers
and have a couple extra.  I am asking $200 which covers only my cost
(Peips plus tax and shipping).  The Pieps are the Dual Frequnecy (DF)
models which are a must these days due to recent adoption of the
European frequency.

Cheers,

Allen Sanderson
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: andre@avalanche.Canada.Sun.COM (Andre Giroux - Sun Montreal SSS)
Subject:  Lake Louise
Reply-To: andre@avalanche.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems du Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:12:43 GMT

hello...

I am going to lake Louise from jan 13 to 17th. Anything I MUST do/see/try ???

andre


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From: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Park City
Date: 21 Dec 1992 19:59:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
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In article t8r2y8c@rpi.edu, halabuda@vms.ecs.rpi.edu () writes:
> I'll be heading out to Park City January 11-19, and was wondering about
> any restaurants, night spots, and other resorts I should check out while
> I'm there. We're almost definitely going to Alta and Snowbird. Any info
> via e-mail would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mike Halabuda
> halabuda@vms.ecs.rpi.edu


There's a pretty good sushi place in the downtown part, supposedly run
by the only American woman shushi chef.

I can't tell you exactly where it is, but there's only one and it's in
the old downtown section.

Also, Park City isn't very big and there's busses running around all over
the place so don't assume you need a car. AND! I almost forgot. Don't
take a shuttle from the airport to Park City. They're a scam and you'll
have to wait until they fill one up before you can leave. They're also extremely uncomfortable.

The local taxicabs will beat match or beat the price of any shuttle
and you'll have a whole cab to yourself.

Greg
From: kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: K2 Greatful Dead graphic skis
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:38:15 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Has anyone seen these "limited edition" skis?
What K2 ski do they use?
How are the graphics?
How many are they making?
How much are they costing?

Any info would be appreciated.

John Kettyle, Jr.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Subject: Re: Learn on short or long skis?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:25:31 GMT
Organization: Fly GlenAir
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Mark Bisgeier (mdb@netcom.com) wrote:

:> ...and land on the peas,
:It's "land IN the peas" 

 In, on...whatever. At this point if I even come close I'm happy! :-)

 ..glen "very confused about what season this is"
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From: joe@robin.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Joe.Fernandez)
Subject: Re: Hawaii
Reply-To: joe@robin.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Joe.Fernandez)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:32:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.163407.13955@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>In article <122930235@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes) writes:
>|> > 
>|> > Has anyone skied in Hawaii? I am heading there for Xmass.
>|> > Is it worth skiing? Or people just do it to have said:
>|> > 
>|> > I skied in Hawaii...
>|> > 
>|> 
>|> It's beyond me why anyone would travel to Hawaii to ski.  It must be
>|> those same people who I meet on the chair-lifts who always want it to be
>|> warm and sunny when they're skiing.
>
>  Well, their aren't any chair lifts in Hawaii, although some people do ski
>down one of the big volcanic mountains on the big island of Hawaii - called
>Hawaii! But don't look for skiing often, as it's only available for a short time
It's Mauna Kea (13,784 ft.) which is an extinct volcano. That's where you
can also find all those BIG telescopes at the top.

There's also Mauna Loa (13,680 ft.) which is active! 

--Joe

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From: zod@ncube.com (Operator)
Subject: Boycott Colorado
Reply-To: zod@ncube.com
Organization: nCUBE Corp., Foster City, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:55:35 GMT

Let's join some of the cities who are boycotting Colorado,
in protest to their newly passwd, discriminatory law against
gays.

It's wrong to discriminate against any group. The reemergence
of Pat Bucanon and the far right threatens the freedom of all
skiers and the snowboarders. I just can't see myself bow to
the extremists and to the people and States who support them.

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From: launce@medusa.med.utah.edu (Tri-Ungulate)
Subject: Re: Cable binding modification for dual tension
Organization: Trifurcate-Hooved Ruminant Surveyors, Inc.
	<LAUNCE.92Dec17113932@medusa.med.utah.edu>
	<1992Dec18.220801.6599@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
	<1992Dec21.163652.23267@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:39:27

In article <1992Dec21.163652.23267@IRO.UMontreal.CA> fauvel@marte.iro.umontreal.ca (Sylvain Fauvel) writes:
	   On the rotefella, the cable has to be clipped on the ski,
       in front of the binding.  This make the cable unusable with
       a voile release system.  Does the Voile binding have cables
       attached to the binding alone?  I would be interested.

"Cables" are attached to the sides of the toe-plates.  Yes, they are
useable with the Voile release system (why not?  they're made by the
same company).  Story I heard was that the design was thought up 40
odd years ago by some Norweigian fellow, but only got put into
practice (here, at least) last year.

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From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:06:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Helicopter Skiing/Canadian Goods Tax
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> 
> I am going up to Mike Wiegele's Helicopter Skiing and wanted to know about 
> the %6 tax that the Canadian Goverment charges. I believe that I can get a
> refund on this since I am  a USA citizen. Has anyone done this or know
> how it works. I went up two years ago just after the tax was imposed and
> did not get it back, but I have read on the net sometime ago that we could
> get this refunded.
>

Last year CMH automatically deducted the tax from their foreign guest's 
bills.  If Mike can't do this for you, you can pick up a form before you
leave (Mike probably has them for you), fill it out and send it to where-
ever it says :-)  Then, after the appropriate amount of government time
has elapsed, you'll get a check in the mail.

If you buy anything in Canada, keep the receipt!  You'll need it to get
your refund.

John

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: vince@bradley.bradley.edu (Vincent Dean)
Subject: Spirit Mountain
Summary: information wanted on Spirit Mountain, Minnesota
Keywords: minnesota
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:37:32 GMT

Hello,

I'm new at this so please no flames for typos or other
violations of Newsgroups etiquette.

As the header states, is there anybody out there who
can give me helpful info on Spirit Mountain, Minnesota.
I guess it's right near Duluth, but I'm not sure.

Helpful information would be things such as:
1) Personal opinions based on experience 
2) Information on food and lodging
3) Phone #'s for the mountain and resort
4) Any interesting entertainment and other points
   of interest in the area


I have read the faq and couldn't find any information on          
"mountains" in Minnesota, Michigan, or Wisconsin, is there  
a reason for this?

That's all.  You can either reply directly to me or to the
newsgroup.

Thanks in advance, and once again I apologize for any mistakes.

  

bye...


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From: jat@linus.mitre.org (Jim Teunas)
Subject: Whistler/Blackcomb vs Sun Valley?
Followup-To: rec.skiing
Organization: Mitre Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:45:23 GMT

Last year I went to Steamboat and the year before Vail...
This year am considering either Whistler/Blackcomb or Sun 
Valley Id.

Can anyone give some hints as to how the skiing compares???
I don't care anything about the shopping or the nightlife since
my usual practice is to be at the lifts when they open and and am
completly crashed out by 8:30 at night.

My usual skiing is in New Hampshire/Vermont/Maine.  I have fun going down
everything except the double bozo runs ( double diamonds and bumps are fine
)
and don't jump off cliffs unless something is chasing me....

Thanx for any suggestions!!  Jim Teunas
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.food.restaurants
From: rosen@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (steven.b.rosen)
Subject: Benos Cabin
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Ski Food
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:07:43 GMT


Hi,
	I've heard some good things about a restaurant called "Benos
	Cabin" on the mountain in the Beaver Creek ski area.  As I
	understand it, you are taken to the restaurant in a sleigh
	pulled behind a snow cat.  Although that does sound quaint
	(and very cold) does anyone have anything good to say about 
	the food or the value - what does a "typical" dinner cost?

	Finally, were going to be staying at a condo in the Keystone 
	area. Does anyone know how long would it take to drive to Beaver
	Creek from the Keystone area? 
	
	Although I've skied Vail, and know that area well, I've never 
	been to Keystone. Any tips on Keystone restaurants would be
	appreciated.

	Thanks for any info...

	...steve...


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From: glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Subject: Re: Learn on short or long skis?
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:41:52 GMT
Organization: Fly GlenAir
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Jim Puckett (puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov) wrote:

> NO FEAR! QUIT SNIVELIN'!!

 ...and land on the peas, but I think this is the wrong news group!

 ..glen
From: @lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (Tracy R. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: How the Bozos Ski
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:22:34 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering and Sciences

In <Dec18.172546.40666@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:

>Also, for an in depth analysis of how to have fun on skis, see my
>book, "How the Bozos Ski."  

[  Very funny stuff deleted ]

>How the Bozos Ski, available for $9.95 ($12.95 in Canada), is destined to
>be one of the great skiing classics.  The New York Times said, "At last,
>the largest segment of the skiing population, the bozos, have the step
>by step instruction manual they've so sorely needed for so long." Eugene
>Miya said, "I never go to Vail without it."

I love it. Wayne, please give us more details. :)
From: dbr@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Rosler)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: boots
Date: 21 Dec 1992 11:22:48 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu
Keywords: boots

Perhaps people have had experience with Soloman boots?  In particular the M63?
I'd appreciate any advice or comments.  Thanks.
-- 

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From: mdb@netcom.com (Mark Bisgeier)
Subject: Re: Learn on short or long skis?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:38:04 GMT

glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker) writes:
> ..glen "very confused about what season this is"

It's the season for a 6' base and 13,000' for $15.00!
-- 

Mark Bisgeier              mdb@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: East "vs." West Snowboarders Suck!!! (more chair reference though)
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 01:28:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.024932.21608@sco.com> kurtray@sco.COM
(Kurt J. Raymond) writes:
>Let's forget this wimpy debate of skiers vs. snowboarders - I'm
>much more in favor of a discussion that draws regional boundary
>lines, battle lines, rather than this ideological psycho-babble.
>The boundary of which I speak is, of course, western skiing vs.
>eastern skiing.

Someone offend your ego or something?

>As every informed skier knows, the skiing is vastly superior in
>the West.  After all, as it's been pointed out, the skier/snowboarder
>controversy is rooted in the East.  And who can blame the poor
>wretches?  If the only skiing within driving distance were as
>poor as it is in the East, *I'd* be irritable to the point of
>picking fights too!

Nonsense.
Lots of fine skiing on the East Coast.  No need to ever head West.
That's why Greeley sent the chumps West.  Big flat plains and deserts.
Naw, fine mountains in the East.  Just rent The Deer Hunter, look at that
fine snowy peak in the Allegeny Mtns.  There must be some skiing on its
slopes.  The East has finer skiers, they know how to ski, especially on
ice.  Olympic territory.  Fine place for skiing the East coast.  No need
to travel to the stealth of the deserts.  Just sand dunes.

Where the only cultural advantage is the ability to make a right turn on
a red light.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
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From: hl0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Harold S. Lessure)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Please Email Jackson Hole Update
Date: 3 Jan 93 04:07:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UfFjABu00YUnQ1dnE=
Organization: Doctoral student, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Would someone please email me with a report on Jackson Hole? Looks like
I'll be there 1/5/93 thru 1/12/93. I would like to have a current first
hand snow report, outlook for the coming week and suggestions for stuff
to do in the area when I'm not skiing. Thanks!
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: halabuda@vms.ecs.rpi.edu
Subject: Re: boots
Reply-To: halabuda@vms.ecs.rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:42:43 GMT

In article <122930232@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes) writes:
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with Technica TNS boots? 
>>
>
>Sure, they have the same color scheme as TIDE Laundry detergent box, except
>brighter.  They're easy to spot coming down the hill.
>
>John
>
Sorry, John, that's the TNT you're describing, and I think he's asking about
performance, not color scheme.


Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: fanning@NMC.ED.RAY.COM (Robert Fanning)
Subject: Intermediate lessons (was bumps)
Reply-To: fanning@iatc.ed.ray.com
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 15:18:21 GMT



  After all this talk about learning to bump ski, intermediate
  level lessons seem an appropriate topic.

  Anyone have any particularly good (or bad) experiences with
  different ski schools?  Personally I'm interested in ones in
  the North East (VT, NH, ME).

  I recently took a 45 minute EXCEL lesson at Mt. Snow Vermont.
  The cost is $21 for the first lesson $16 for subsequent lessons
  with a proof of purchase. A maximum of 3 people per class.

  They group classes into 3 catagories, long linked turns, short linked
  turns, and bumps.

  45 minutes didn't seem like enough time.  We got in three runs with
  the instructor, and this was with no lift lines (although I suppose
  they would have let ski school people skip to the front anyway).  I
  was doing the long linked turns lesson, but was dissapointed.

  Also lessons didn't start until 1:30.  It seems to me that if you start
  lesssons earlier, it would allow more time to practice what was learned.

  One cool thing that Mt. Snow offers to all skiiers (not just people
  taking lessons) is a video evaluation of your skiing - for free.  I was
  supprised at how poor my skiing posture was!  If you have the oppertunity
  do it!

  Rob Fanning
  fanning@iatc.ed.ray.com
From: pwagner@ejv.com (Peter Wagner)
Subject: Re: Question to more advanced skiers (bumps) 
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 10:54:45 EST
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I ski the bumps okay, but never get enough ski days in to really
master them (I ski only about 7 days/season, but I've been skiing for
over 25 years, since I was 3).  I often feel like I'm really fighting
when I'm skiing serious bumps.  I *definitely* should take a lesson,
as I'm never quite sure what the proper technique is.  Could some bump
master explain where and how you want to make your turns in the bumps?
Thanks!

	>p
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From: launce@medusa.med.utah.edu (Tri-Ungulate)
Subject: Re: Ski Alta!
Organization: Trifurcate-Hooved Ruminant Surveyors, Inc.
	<1992Dec15.063539.26009@nas.nasa.gov> <BzFCqH.H1K@javelin.sim.es.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:50:06

In article <BzFCqH.H1K@javelin.sim.es.com> bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer) writes:
   Someone didn't see my 20" post last Monday.

I did.  *sigh*

   Unfortunately, the wind has picked up, no doubt blowing all the snow
   off the mountains & into Wyoming, & 12" new, cold, fluff on the valley
   floor isn't really predicted for tonight & tomorrow, & more storms
   aren't predicted for Tuesday & Christmas day.

Weeel, the truth (honest) is:

The mongo storms *were* _PREDICTED_...

But they never materialized in these here parts.

I *hate* it when they do that!!  

(i.e. last season.) 

Still, had an awesome day of untracked in Days Fork on Monday.

Now if I could only get ahold of a stinger handheld SAM...

(whucka whucka whucka whucka whucka whucka whucka whucka whucka KABOOOOOM!!)

| _, launce gouw * internet: launce@medusa.med.utah.edu * ooniversity of ootah 
|(_) medical center * department of human genetics *   palace of the brine
___) we apologise for the previous opinions. those responsible have been sacked
From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Re: Mass and Speed Control (especially on bumps)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:49:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Utah

In article <1992Dec31.181155.9070@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> warren@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (warren.a.montgomery) writes:

   One topic I have yet to see discussed either here or by a ski
   instructor is what larger, heavier people need to do to stay in
   control on steep bumpy slopes.  I'm not huge (190), but I'm bigger
   than the people people who I see gracefully bouncing through bumps
   controlling their speed with just a little scrape on each, and
   I've never understood how they do it.  I can make tight, quick
   turns on a steep slope, but after half a dozen I am approaching
   warp speed and it's time for a long scrape or a big turn up hill.
   No trouble on smooth slopes but deadly on the bumps.  Once that
   happens, it's back to stumbling around in terror of going too
   fast until I get (over) confident again and point them downhill.
   The heavier you are, the more potential energy you have to
   dump in descending  a steep slope.  It's all got to go either into
   your edges or your knees.  Contrary to someone else's posting, I
   can't stay in control plowing on steep, hard slopes, no matter how
   hard I edge.  There's just not enough friction to absorb the
   energy.  Having had one knee operation, I'd just as soon
   minimize the energy absorbed in my knees.  Any 200 pounders out
   there who can ski bumps?  How do you keep from accellerating?

The acceleration due to gravity here on Earth is independent of mass;
all objects fall at the same rate, if all other variables are equal.
Remember the story of old what's-his-face, and the leaning tower of
Pisa? ;-)

Perhaps there is something different about the frictional forces that
oppose the acceleration.  Maybe heavier people melt the top layer of
snow under their skis faster because of the increased pressure.  This
may lead to a reduced frictional coefficient.

Another possibility: Are you sure that you are travelling as fast as
the lighter people you see dancing through the bumps?  Sometimes
smooth, graceful motion can make a skier appear to be going more
slowly than he is really going.  Perhaps these skiers are comfortable
at faster speeds.

I think that the most likely factor is your anticipation of the bumps.
There is a tendency for heavier people to be slower than lighter
people.  Momentum and all that.  If you suck up your knees an instant
before you hit the bump, and extend them quickly down the backside of
the bump, you can maintain a firm connection to the ground, and carve
a smoother, more continuous turn.  Make sure you keep your tips on the
ground at all times.  When your skis come off the ground, you are in
freefall, with no friction to slow you down.  Also, you have no power
to turn when you are airborne.  Another advantage of keeping your tips
on the snow is that you get some shock absorption from the flex of the
ski.

Of course this is only one man's moderately humble opinion. ;-)

--
jonathan byrd
jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
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From: bbs.pucon@tsoft.net (Ivan Munoz)
Subject: skii between SFO and PDX
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:04:18 GMT

Hi

I am driving from San Francisco to Portland, Oregon Sunday Dec 27. Do you 
know a good place to skii in between???  Just to skii for half a day to 
make the trip more relaxing. Also, if someone need a ride, let me know. I 
am actually leaving from Mtn. View, near Stanford U. and I am driving a 
good Honda Accord.
Please e-mail me at ivan@noticia.bolis.sf-bay.org  or
the address below.

Chao,

Ivan

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Ivan Munoz (bbs.pucon@tsoft.net)
From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:00:07 GMT
Subject: rec.skiing FAQ 14/16 National Ski Patrol
Organization: Toyz R. Me