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From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Quotes Poll
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:56:42 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield) writes:

> hofle@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Christopher Hofle) writes:
> 
> 
> >Hey everyone!  Just thought of something the other day --
> >It would be pretty cool to have some sort of poll on this newsgroup
> >where everyone sends in their favorite quote, comeback, putdown or
> >smart-ass remark from the Trilogy (only one per user) and then
> >compile the list after X days and declare the winners. (Those quotes
> >receiving the most votes).  
> 
> >ex.  "Laugh it up fuzzball!" -- Han -- TESB
> 
> >I was going to offer to be the person responsible for taking in all the 
> >votes, but I don't think I'm going to have the time this semester.
> >So if anyone out there would be willing to be the organizer (have the
> >votes e-mailed to you and then count the frequency of each quote), 
> >this should be interesting.
> 
> >Just a thought.
> 
> >Andy
> 
>    I like the idea. I might actually have the time to do it also. This isn't
> necessarily admitting I want to do it, but if enough people respond to this
> post for me to do it, well then....
> 
> Cory Padfield
> cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
> 

Cool, as long as you don't mind a couple hundred people sending you mail 
that says, "You rebel scum!" =)


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From: nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill)
Subject: Re: Silly Rumour
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:03:40 GMT

In article <mtrebel1-210193114052@mac13.trotter1.swarthmore.edu> mtrebel1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matt Trebelhorn) writes:
>Is there anything to the rumour that a potato and a tennis shoe appear in
>the rebel armada at the end of ROTJ?
>We recently watched it in our dorm and a friend mentioned this rumour,
>which we weren't able to confirm.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>==Matt

They are there, along with little bits of chewing gum and scraps off of ILM's
floor. They were used to fill in the background space--certainly, it wouldn't
be worth it to build models for the ships so far out that they looked like
specks. So they used specks. With 72 layers of depth, you don't need accurate
detail on the farther layers. Just having such perspective looks cool anyway.

Don't get your hopes up, I don't think they're identifiable. Although, some of
the rebel ships do look like potatoes....

					local Star Wars guru
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"I once felt your gom jabbar. Now feel mine!" --Muad'Dib

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From: pjs4h@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Peter Joshua Stathis)
Subject: Re: Harpoons ??
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:52:04 GMT

about the harpoons.  Remember: the Rebels arent well financed
like the Empire.  They're working with chewing gum and
paperclips to hold some of their ships together.  If all they
could get their hands on was a harpoon-tow cable, than they'd
have to use that instead of a more expensive tractorbeam.  
     Why do they need tow cables?  On Hoth?!  Are you kidding?
I bet thier vehicles were konking out all over the place in
that climate.
				YOUR MOTHER
From: ilindsay@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ian Lindsay )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Dark Force Rising Question
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:24:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: slate.1993Jan26.192457.58392
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

After finishing Dark Force Rising (for the second time), I couldn't
find any reference to creatures referred to in the SW:RPG DFR sourcebook
as Duinuogwuin.  They are also called "Star Dragons".  To anyone unfamiliar
Theth with this book they are a race of ancient avians who have a knack
with the force (2 out of 3 are force-sensitive).  If anyone has read or
seen any references to these creatures anywhere but the sourcebook, please
post it here.  If some people think that the sourcebook should go to H**l
then don't post it here. Thank You
                                     Ian Lindsay
e
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: Harpoons ??
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:29:08 GMT

Edward B Stokes (ebstokes@uncc.edu) wrote:
: If the rear crewman operates the weaponry, why is he facing BACKWARDS? 
:His position seems to indicate he is a Navigator, 
:or system operator of some kind.

Good question! 

I personally don't think the speeders were *designed* to be used in
combat, and were really hacked up to do the job of ground support.
I think the design is for the pilot to be in front looking at
where they're going and the second guy to be looking at what they're
tugging along. The design is sort of like a hauling ship, like
the tractor part of a tractor-trailer.

The second guy must normally have been the person who latched on to the
thing they were going to haul around, and let go of it.

Of course, a rear gunner is nothing strange now-a-days -- most
dogfighting is getting on the other guy's tail and shooting him
down, so that's where I'd want a gunner. The forward weapons
must have been used by the pilot.

Scott

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From: cogar@cogarmac.nswc.navy.mil (John R Cogar)
Subject: Re: The other Yoda spoke of
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Organization: NSWCDD
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:52:55 GMT

In article <C18oz0.BCE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve
Stelter) wrote:
> 
> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
> 
> 
> >While I still agree that the "other" in TESB is Leia, there is still one
> >thing that bothers me about this:  If Ben was the one who hid Luke and
> >Leia, why did Ben say that Luke was their last hope?  Why didn't he
> >consider Leia?  Did Yoda realize that Leia could help them if Luke
> >failed, while Ben didn't?  If so, why didn't Ben think this?
> 
> Some possibilities: (deleted)
> 
> 
>                           --Steve Stelter
>                             sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

When Ben said that Luke was the last hope wasn't Leia being held captive by
Darth Varder?  Ben could have thought that she was lost to Vader (either
through death or the Dark side) at this time, and that only Luke was left. 
Yoda-being the Jedi Master that he is-may have know through "seeing the
future" that Leia would escape from Vader and be available for Jedi study
if Luke failed.


John R Cogar                 | Always expect the worst.
cogar@mv5.nswc.navy.mil      | That way you won't be disappointed.
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Dark Force Rising Question
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:23:39 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

ilindsay@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ian Lindsay ) writes:

>After finishing Dark Force Rising (for the second time), I couldn't
>find any reference to creatures referred to in the SW:RPG DFR sourcebook
>as Duinuogwuin.  They are also called "Star Dragons".  To anyone unfamiliar
>Theth with this book they are a race of ancient avians who have a knack
>with the force (2 out of 3 are force-sensitive).  If anyone has read or
>seen any references to these creatures anywhere but the sourcebook, please
>post it here.  If some people think that the sourcebook should go to H**l
>then don't post it here. Thank You

I don't know if this counts, but there are a couple of pages devoted to
the Duinuogwuin in the SW:RPG Alien Races Galaxy Guide sourcebook.

                             --Steve Stelter
                               sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:17:37 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Really nagging question

Why is Artoo always black and white in space?!?!?!?!?

In all three movies, whenever he is shown in Luke's X-Wing, his blue panels
turn a sorta-greyish tint, DEFINITELY not blue...

I'm sure there's a simple answer, but I don't know...

Thanks, and May the Force be with you, always...

Mike
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From: smt0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEFAN M. THIEME)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: NEW MOVIES - All News Groupies Please Read
Date: 21 Jan 93 05:44:21 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <C1691n.HHo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, spock@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Scott) w
rites:
>In article <1993Jan20.193901.983@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMaha
n -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>>Steve Husty (husty@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu) wrote:
>>
>>:     If you are new to this news group, there will be new movies, in the
>>:     not too distant future.  The names, actors, details, etc. are still
>>:     unknown.  That is it.
>>
>>Well, the new movie has been out for a couple of months -- where has
>>everyone been?!
>>
>>Scott
>>
>       What do you mean the new movie has been out for a couple of months?
>  What's the title and when did it come out?
>

Now see what you've started? Don't confuse all the newbies.
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Darth's outfit
Keywords: darth wardrobe stripes
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:07:28 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.uk (Simon N Smith) writes:

> I'm about to paint a Vader miniture (from the West End Games series), so I've
> been looking closely at how he was dressed.  My main observation is that his
> breastplate appears to have vertical stripes on it; the problem is that I
> can't decide whether the stripes are a very dark grey, or just a matt black
> (the other stripes are gloss black, like a lot of his armour!).  What is
> everyone's opinion on this?
> 
> Sy
 
I believe that those were grey stripes in Jedi (Darth's uniform has 
changed over the trilogy, pick your favorite and go with it). :)
> 
> -- 
> Simon N. McIntosh-Smith, PhD candidate    |  Email : Simon.N.Smith@cm.cf.ac.u
> Department of Computing Mathematics,      |  Phone : +44 (0)222 874000
> University of Wales, College of Cardiff,  |  Fax   : +44 (0)222 666182
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:50:53 EST
From: <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: More info on new Topps cards
 <1993Jan22.161240.19560@njitgw.njit.edu>

I thought the coloring was fine on Dark Empire, but it needed better *art*!
And Sam Kieth could do a nice job on some of the creatures but let's hope he
stays away from the human characters.
                                                 --Eric
From: bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ALIS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Epic-type battles in movies
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:21:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan18.180107.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, jpurcell@vax1.umkc.edu writes...
>In article <1993Jan14.125549.1@nickel.laurentian.ca>, s1400070@nickel.laurentian.ca writes:
>>      I was contemplating your thought in the Empire not rellly wanting to 
>> get involved in surface battles but you have to remember that we are dealing
>> with a timeframe with a lot of wholes in it.  For example, we do not really
>> know what happened in the time between SW and TESB.  We do know, however,
>> that there must have been some sort of battles in the interim because the 
>> Rebel forces obviously had a tactic to deal with the at-at vehicles ie. 
>> hit them in the legs and drop them.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 						John
>> 
> 
>Well, if this was their overall tactic, why didn't they do this at the onset
>and save a few snow speeders.  All they would have had to do was fly behind
>them and tie them up.  It seems to me that the idea of an imperial walker is
>a waste of imperial resources.  The things aren't that sturdy, and even though
>are very formitable, seem to have a great many weaknesses.

Part of this answer comes from one of the Star Wars sources book and part 
from just trying to piece things together.

According to the Source book the AT-AT weak spot was its neck area. However 
it was difficult to hit the comparablely small neck area and keep from being
shot or wacked out of the way as well.  
The Harpoons and Tow Cables were the next choice of attack for attacking AT-
AT, but not the advisable one because the manuer required more precised 
shooting and flying.  Plus if your tow cable does not detach your SOL.

I believe than Luke saying "that armour is to strong for blasters" was the 
best way the writers could think of at the time to let the audience know 
that the armour "was" to strong for blasters and that's why we are going to 
use this very "risky" move of shooting harpoons and tow cables. 

Does any one know who took out the other AT-AT?  There were 5 AT-ATs when 
the battle started but only three when Luke blew one up with a hand grenade 
or thermal detenator.  Also, how many ST-AT's were there?  I only saw the 
one when Luke blew up that AT-AT.

One more thing.  Does any one else agree that the rebels preparation for 
ground assault was suicidal at best?  Exposuing that many ground troops 
to annililation by having them have to run a significant distance for a 
retreat without the cover trenches or sheilds or armour..... My stomach
turns every time I watch that scene thinking.... they have could
dug more trenches or put the canons on automatic or something
besides letting all those men get slaughtered during the retreat.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:19:27 -0500 
From: Robert Alan Danforth <rd2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford Movies

in case this hasn't been mentioned already, the forgettable mystery thriller
was called "Frantic."  Also, didn't he make a brief appearance in Appocalypse
Now?

- Rob Danforth
From: w0333@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford Movies
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:49:30 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

	Add to the list "More American Graffiti."  (Officer Falfa!)

Bob Mack, Dayton, Ohio
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:34:12 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan26.125516.24155@watson.ibm.com> roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com writes:
>In <1k0sjaINN337@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk> hale@bbsls84.BNR.CA (Dave Hale x5501) writes:
>>In the AT-AT scene in TESB, did anyone notice the glimpse of one of the two
>>legged walkers?
>>
>>It was only on screen for a second or so and isn't seen again until the
>>forest scene in ROTJ. 
>
>Yup, I remember it.  My 7 year old brother (at the time) and myself called it
>a 'Chicken Walker' because it kinda looked like a chicken.  Not until pre-ROTJ
>photo/fanzine material came out did we know it was called a 'Scout Walker'.

Y'know, I KNOW that I heard them actually called "Chicken Walkers" at one
time, but I can't remember where.  Does anyone else remember hearing them
called this, or am I suffering from the "I KNOW I saw the Biggs scene"
syndrome?

-- 
Brian Perler			bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu
"I wanna decide who lives and who dies"
	-Crow T. Robot, "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians," MST3K
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The other Yoda spoke of
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:34:50 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper) writes:

>In article <1jmrjnINNaqs@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes...
>><DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> 
>>>>up the universe as far as the Force is concerned).  From what I've heard,
>>>>the final triology is to be about one of the underdeveloped characters
>>>>who survives the second trilogy.  Wedge fits this picture just fine...
>> 
>>>  Where'd you hear this, exactly?
>> 
>>I don't know... someone here on the net said it...

>Oh!  Well then it MUST be true!

Well, I think he said that it was in one of those Banth Tracks issues..

keith
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Really nagging question
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:54:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: hogbbs.qsLZXB7w166w
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

djwalton@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (David J Walton) writes:

> In article <93024.021737MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu 
> >Why is Artoo always black and white in space?!?!?!?!?
> >
> >In all three movies, whenever he is shown in Luke's X-Wing, his blue panels
> >turn a sorta-greyish tint, DEFINITELY not blue...
> >
> >I'm sure there's a simple answer, but I don't know...
> >
> 
> Yup, it's a simple answer, all right.
> His blue panels are too close to the color of the blue-screen he is filmed
> against for the space shots.  If they left 'em blue, you'd see stars instead
> of panels.  Make sense?
> 
> Dave

Well, at least then we could all say that the stars were simply 
reflecting off Artoo ('cause here in rec.arts.sf.starwars, we can
explain anything and everything, even if we have to make it up). :)


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From: lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca (Bradley Larsen u)
Subject: Re: NEW MOVIES - All News Groupies Please Read
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:39:35 GMT

In article <C1691n.HHo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> spock@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Scott) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.193901.983@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>>Steve Husty (husty@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu) wrote:
>> 
>>: 	If you are new to this news group, there will be new movies, in the
>>: 	not too distant future.  The names, actors, details, etc. are still
>>: 	unknown.  That is it.  
>>
>>Well, the new movie has been out for a couple of months -- where has
>>everyone been?!
>>
>>Scott
>>
>	What do you mean the new movie has been out for a couple of months?
>  What's the title and when did it come out?
>
>

ill you guys stop this!!!!! It's driving me MADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
From: joshuali@girtab.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: THX/ Laserdiscs
Date: 24 Jan 1993 12:48:53 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1jsh5kINNsau@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> mjc@cats.ucsc.edu (Matthew Jude Cunningham) writes:
>   I have heard the rumors going around about the boxed set of Star Wars
>remastered in THX. I called around to my local laserdisc store, and they 
>tell me it is an unconfirmed rumor. They say that it might happen. I am
>curious on how this rumor got out. Please e-mail at mjc@cats.ucsc.edu

This is not a RUMOR...It was announced at the the winter CES in Vegas.
Not all video stores are kept up with the info. It was also listed in
Billboard Magazine.

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From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: x-wings?????? why?????
Date: 24 Jan 93 05:13:34 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <93023.224359GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>You're wrong on one of your points though.  Ships can be and are tracked while
>in hyperspace.  Vader and Tarkin track the Millenium Falcon to the Yavin base
>during it's jaunt through hyperspace with the newly rescued Princess Leia.
>
>                                                 --Eric

That's with a homing beacon.  Without one, a ship is untrackable in hyperspace.
Remember at the end of Empire?  The Falcon makes the jump to hyperspace, and
that's it.  Vader walks away.  The rebels are home-free.

Maybe they get out of sensor range really fast, or maybe radiation cannot
travel between hyperspace and real space.  There is nothing to say one way
or another whether the Falcon is tracked while in hyperspace, or whether
the Empire picks up the signal as soon as they cut the hyperdrive.

-Bill 
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