From: terjem@stud.cs.uit.no (Terje Normann Marthinussen)
Subject: Re:  300 MIP Amiga
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:13:38 GMT

In article <root.02tl@rkamiga.UUCP>, root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.232017.21441@mksol.dseg.ti.com> stevew@convx1.dseg.ti.com (Steve Wootton) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov12.154520.16411@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jhp3x@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Jeffrey Howard Porter) writes:
>>>What would the cost of an ALpha based AMiga be?? I recognize the
>>>incredible speed it has... but doesn't this carry a high price tag?
>>
>>Depends on what you consider a "high price tag."  The November 9, 1992
>>Computerworld says:
>>
>>DEC 3000 400 AXP  $15,000  128Mbytes RAM   110 SPECmarks
>>    4000 AXP      $77,000  512Mbytes       135 SPECs (single CPU, 2 avail)
>>    7000 AXP     $168,000    2Gbytes       165 SPECs (single CPU, 6 avail)
>>   10000 AXP     $316,000    2Gbytes       NA        (up to 6 CPUs avail)
>>
>>The $15k 400 is the "low-end desktop model."  Looks like you can get Open
>>VMS and a developer's version of OSF/1 this week, and the end-user version
>>of OSF/1 by 2nd quarter, 1993.  The 10000 doesn't seem to be available just
>>yet, so keep your checkbook closed :-)
>
>So, do you have the cash to buy a $15000 home computer?
>
>And I bet that the $15000 doesn't include the license fees for VMS or OSF.
>
>DEC software is very, very expensive.

Nope, I don't have em....

But it is still possible to dream....:)

Anyway had a look at the specs from the new machines from HP?

Holds quite good against the Alphas I should say.
Heres some info from recent postings in comp.sys.hp
(the release info about the alpha based machine was also posted there
a couple of days ago)

------
     The new HP Apollo 9000 Series 700 workstation
family is based on the superscalar PA-7100 chip and
features the following:

     o    performance of up to 150.6 SPECfp92, 80
          SPECint92 and 147 SPECmark*89;

     o    high-performance, expandable color
          workstations priced from $5,695*;

     o    breakthrough 3-D graphics price/performance
          across the entire breadth of the product
          line, with 3-D solids workstations priced
          from $7,795;

     o    a cluster computing solution delivering 1
          billion instructions per second; and

     o    HP MPower, the workstation industry's only
          single-product solution for networked,
          collaborative multimedia1.


---------

               715    715/     735/
                      725      755
             (33MHz) (50MHz) (99MHz)
SpecMark89       46      69     147
MFLOPS            8      13      41
SpecInt92        24      37      80
SpecFP92         45      72     151
SPECint89        27      40      88
SPECfp89         66      99     206
MIPS             41      62     124
X11Perf        7424   10646   18790

-----------


The Model 735 is the ideal building block for the cluster computing
solution recently introduced by HP and Convex Computer Corp.   For example, a
rack of eight Model 735 workstations running Convex cluster software delivers
more than 1,500 peak Mflops and nearly 1 billion instructions per second
providing supercomputer performance at a small fraction of the cost.


---end--

The price of these new beasts iare:
755: Prices start at $58,995 for a 19-in. color system with 64 Mbytes of 
     RAM and a 2-Gbyte disk.

725: From $17,895

715/50: From $11,895

715/33: From 5,695

(all of the above is color systems)  
 
A 19-in. color Model 715/33 with 16 Mbytes of memory and a 525-Mbyte disk costs 
"only" $9,995. 

uhum.... typical... $5,695 is the advertised prisce, almost twice
as much will a decent model cost you... (we have lots of snakes running
here and I think one should have at least 32 Mb on these machines)
Anybody said that AmigaUX was expensive?

What sounds even more impressive than the machines is the new graphic equipment 
though...

Anyone interested I might post it here (or maybe mail the whole product info).
HP claims their equipment beats mosts other machines out there, including
SGI.....

Oh, by the way... Anyone out there wanting wide SCSI 2????
Heres HP's numbers..:)

     In addition to the outstanding CPU and graphics
performance, these workstations feature the fast and
wide SCSI 2 mass-storage interface, which eliminates I/O
bottlenecks by delivering disk throughput of 20 Mbytes/s
-- twice the I/O speed of Sun's SPARCstation 10 family


Terje Marthinussen
terjem@stud.cs.uit.no

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