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From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: RE: Universal translaters-
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:10:07 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1992Dec14.165724.6011@neb> prp@neb (Paul Peterson) writes:
                                       ^^^^^^^
I tried to answer this guy by email but my machine laughed at me. :)

>A thought provoking question:
>
>We all know that the various and sundry alien races do not really
>speak English, but their speech is converted to English by the
>"Universal Translator" in the Big E-s computer and vice-versa to
>enable communication between species.
>
>This translation capability has enabled the humans to communicate
>even with races such as the Nanites in 'Evolution' and the silicon
>race discovered in 'Home Soil' (remember - they called the humans
>"ugly bags of mostly water").
>
>So, with all this capability to communicate with diverse species,
>how come we never see Spot having anything to say?  Any thoughts?

I think the Universal Translater has always been some sort of decoder.
Supposedly, if a species communicated telepathicly (like the Companion
from TOS) then it was decoding ... well, whatever it is that telepaths
broadcast.  What about otherwise?

The problem with assuming that the universal translater interprets what
is actually said is that, well, imagine an alien walked up to you and
said "FGD DF TFH UGKB ERU YUT RU"!  Pretty darn hopeless.  Supposedly,
the Universal Translater must be able to get inside a person's mind so
that we can understand what they mean.  The question then is why can't
the Universal Translater be used when you're not even saying something?
Well, I guess most species are not that easily to "read".

Oh, as for Spot: what would he say?  "Feed me!"  "Pet me!"  "Leave me
alone!"  You don't need the Universal Translater for that! :)

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From: coop7z52@bnr.ca (Rahim Pira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Babylon-5
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:55:37 GMT
Reply-To: coop7z52@bnr.ca (Rahim Pira)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


   I'm posting this for the umpteenth time in hope of a response.  Could someone provide me with some information concerning Babylon-5 ?  Basically, what is it about and other info.  Thanks in advance.

Rahim Pira
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From: 910773f@ace.acadiau.ca (HEATHER LEE FYFFE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Other Shows or Movies
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:41:53 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <mazzolav.724265365@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> mazzolav@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Schlomo) writes:
>From: mazzolav@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Schlomo)
>Subject: Other Shows or Movies
>Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:49:25 GMT
>	I was wondering if there are any other movies that the cast of TNG has
 done.  Trivia Question:  What movie was Patrick Stewart in before doing TNG?
>
>Andrew Mazzola

I don't know of any others, but I do know that Patrick Stewart was in Dune, 
as well as a BBC production of Hamlet (which starred Derek Jacobi), and 
probably numerous other Shakespeare productions that I haven't seen...

How about a hard question next time?  :-)

Buzzard
From: Kevin.Karmann@ivgate.omahug.org (Kevin Karmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: K'ehleyr (I think that's the spelli
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:40:10 CST
Reply-To: kevin.karmann@ivgate.omahug.org
Organization: 
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc

>   Ok, I've heard this name mentioned several times!  Who is this 
> Klingon?  I've noticed a lot of guys on various Trek newsgroups 
> have spoken of her in, um, 'glowing terms'.  What episode does 
> she appear in, and how the hell did old Tubbs-Riker manage to 
> attract a Klingon female!?!?! 
 
He didn't.  Worf, however...  :-)  

K'Ehylar is the mother of Worf's son, Alexander.  Alexander was 
concieved in "The Emissary" (2nd season) and was revealed to Worf in 
"Reunion" (4th season).  Both episodes feature Suzie Plaxon (who also 
played Vulcan Doctor Selar) as K'Ehylar.  In the latter episode, 
Reunion, K'Ehylar is murdered.
From: dgreen@thor (David Greenebaum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TNG "How to Host a Mystery"
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:12:11 GMT
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I forgot to mention one other thing--there's a cassette tape that
comes with the game, giving certain details and such... I was hoping
that it would be narrated by Patrick Stewart, but it wasn't.  Sigh.

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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Actors/Actresses in both TOS and TNG
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:25:56 GMT

In article <71080002@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
:>>Majel Barrett-Roddenberry   unknown            TOS: Star Trek (66-69)
:>>                     Lwaxana Troi             TNG: multiple episodes
:
:>"Nurse Christine Chapel" in TOS.
:>Of course, her voice is Ship's computer voice, but this is same role. :-)
:
:Don't forget she was also Number 1 on the TOS pilot.

And the voice of Zephraim Cochran's "companion", no?

G
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Actors/Actresses in both TOS and TNG
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:29:16 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
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-In article <> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ) writes:
->with.  He said only two actors/actresses from the original Star Trek
->television series have come back in The Next Generation as different
->characters.  I thought certainly more have done so.  Actors/actresses
->that have come back playing the same role (Spock, McCoy, Scotty) do not
->count.  Actors/actresses who were in the movies based on TOS but NOT in
->the television series do not count.

In article <> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>So where do you file Mark Lenard?  He came back as both a previous
>character, and a different character, simultaneously.

I don't think I can count Mark Lenard since the only character he has
played in TNG is Sarek who he played in TOS. Although the question of
who has played multiple characters is an interesting one we are limited
here to different characters in TOS and TNG.

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From: Jonathan.Deitch@p7.f411.n133.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jonathan Deitch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Why not always warp 9?
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:40:16 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:133/411.7 - (GIS)Atlanta, Atlanta GA


 * Original from Peter K. Suk at pksuk@rodan.acs.syr.edu 

Dateline Tue, 08/Dec92 19:48.
Peter K. Suk of pksuk@rodan.acs.syr.edu  wrote to All at 1:4549/7,

 >@UFGATE newsin 1.27
 >From: pksuk@rodan.acs.syr.edu 
 >Date: 8 Dec 92 19:48:44 GMT Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
 >Message-ID: <1992Dec8.144844.21398@newstand.syr.edu>
 >Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech

 >In article <0503.12.92@bytos.toppoint.de> 
 >awin@bytos.toppoint.de (Achim Held) writes:

>>I have a question that looked simple to me, but the answers I
>>could think of didn't satisfy me:
>>A few days ago a friend asked me what risks are in flying at warp 9,
>>and if there aren't any, why the Enterprise doesn't always fly
>>at warp 9 or 9.9.
>>
>>Now I would like to get a long list of reasons that I could
>>present him. He can't read this group, but I will collect the
>>answers and show them to him.

 >People have aready mentioned

 >        o fuel consumption
 >        o safety
 >        o spaceframe stress

 >In the Next Gen Technical Manual, it mentions that:

 >        o Fuel consumption is much more efficient at integral warp numbers.
 >        o The Enterprise is designed with a cruising speed of warp 6 or 7
 >                thereabouts, and sustaining higher speeds will eventually 
 >                destroy the drive system

Not to mention wear and tear on the ship itself ... the internal support
systems that hold the ship together are not designed to hold it together
for extended periods of high warp stress.  Just like an F-14 doesn't fly
at its highest speed for the entire duration of its mission.

- Jonathan



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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG/Red Dwarf Crossover
Keywords: SMEG SMEG SMEGHEAD
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:50:34 GMT

"cs_d637@ceres" (Paul Neve) writes:

>I am currently in the process of writing a TNG/RD crossover and have already
>posted the first installment to alt.startrek.creative, but I have been
>informed that quite a few people can't get a.s.creative.
>
>Anyone who wants to read DwarfTrek should email me. If a lot of people
>answer then I'll post it, else I'll just mail it to those who want it.
>
>Email (INTERNET): cs_d637@uk.ac.king.ceres

	I tried e-mailing this guy to request a copy of this thang, but
I get the ol' "Host Unknown" bounced-back-mail routine.  If you're
reading this, Paul Neve (and if you really exist), could you send me a
copy?  Thanks.
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From: sorensen@iastate.edu (Jeffrey T. Sorensen)
Subject: Re: Sex, the Final Frontier?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:55:40 GMT

In <28014@dog.ee.lbl.gov> twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:

>One day, my friend's friend noticed one of her sister's stories,
>and was curious about her sister's writing style.  When she
>read the story, she was shocked because it was pornographic.

>It turns out that there is a huge segment of the trekkie
>subculture that meets and shares stories where the characters
>from the old series are in egaged in much racier stories (the 
>one that stuck in her mind was Kirk and Spock's homosexual 
>relationship) than those commonly associated with the series.

Well, I don't know about convention storylines, but there was
this interesting video a bunch of guys on my dorm floor watched
the other evening...
    SEX TREK:  THE NEXT PENETRATION

It was a rather funny porn / parody on the Original Series.
The cast included...
  Captain Quirk    (played by the famous Peter North)
  Dr. Boner McJoy
  Lt. O'Whore
  Mr. Sperm
  Lt. Screw-You

The planet was Your-Anus (Uranus) and they were at war
with the Dingons.

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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: Why not always warp 9?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:36:36 GMT

In <1992Dec10.171525.188@janus.arc.ab.ca> morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan) writes:

>In article <rslarsen.36.723594005@SSIL> rslarsen@SSIL (Ron Larsen) writes:
>>In article <0503.12.92@bytos.toppoint.de> awin@bytos.toppoint.de (Achim Held)
>writes:
>>>A few days ago a friend asked me what risks are in flying at warp 9,
>>>and if there aren't any, why the Enterprise doesn't always fly
>>>at warp 9 or 9.9.

>>For the same reason that you drive constantly with the pedal to the metal --
>>i.e., it is horrible on energy consumption;

I don't know an awful lot about cars, but I do know that economy-wise,
it's better to travel at a constant 55mph or so...
(Ever wonder why fuel consumption figures are always quoted at 55mph?
Alright, it may be a convention, but a car is most fuel efficient at that
speed... thus 'beefing up' the figures compared to what they would be at, say
20 miles an hour for city driving [a lot less in some places...])

>>it is far more difficult to control the course of the vehicle;

Yes, but for goodness sake, piloting a starship is hardly the same as driving
a car... you don't have to go around any corners... ;-)

Considering that the vast majority of space is utterly empty (no kidding...)
the easiest thing to do would just be to point yourself in a straight line
to your next destination and speed away at warp 9...

>>accidents are far less forgiving than at slower speeds;

>Right.  I would much rather hit something at warp two than at warp nine.
>The resulting explosion would only take out a couple of solar systems rather
>than the whole galactic arm.

!!!

Bit pointless snce the crew are going to die anyway...
And we don't see them hitting anything when they're going at warp 9.8 being
chased by the Borg, or at even faster speeds with the aid of Q, The Traveller,
Reg Barclay, etc...

Anyway, it's all up to the people who write the scripts... So ask them...

Daniel.
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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: RIKER, KIRK'S SON
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <2495.3057.uupcb@synapse.org>, brian.young@synapse.org (Brian Young) writes...
>A friend of my has the following hypothesis...
> 
>Hypothesis:
> 
>    William T. Riker is Kirk's Son
> 
>Evidence:
>    1. Picard's tactics are lame whereas Riker always tries to cheat.
>    2. They emphasize his middle initial is T but never tell you what it
>       is.
>    3. The show is called the "next generation" (and you know Gene
>       loves that sort of deep stuff)
>    4. We know tonnes of stuff about the family of every character
>       except Riker.

     Well, sure, right, I agree.  Except for that episode where we
     met his father.  Kyle.  Whom he hates.  And the one where we
     learned his mother died while Riker was very young.     

     Don't you mean "Tonnes of stuff about the family of every character
     except GEORDI?"

>    5. His mannerisms are like Kirk's.
> 
>Comments?


     Ooh, you really had me going there for a minute.  
     Honest.  (Why am I writing this?)
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From: rsvanc00@nx36.mik.uky.edu (Randolph S. Vance)
Subject: Re: Clinton and Trek
Keywords: Clinton, election, canon
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx36.mik.uky.edu!rsvanc00
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:39:30 GMT

Who says the Eugenics war HAS to happen? Our future has yet to be
written, so it is up to us, and Clinton to make sure it is a good
one. HYPOTHETICALLY, had Clinton NOT been re-elected, it is theoretically
possible that the Eugenics wars might have occured, because of the
Republican's progression of the establishment over that of the individual.

Someone like Reagan, or Nixon or Bush, or *gasp* Quayle, might want
to create a nation of perfect specimens, the scientists work to create
that superior race, they overthrow, the world go boom.....you know the rest.

Then again, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN CLINTON that launched the world into
the horror of the Eugenics Wars. Clinton and Gore DID SAY they were
putting people first. ;)

But, to quote another person familiar with the effects of time travel,

"Your future is whatever you make it, so make it a good one!"

	-Doctor Emmett L. Browm

Whatever humanity's outcome, it doesn't have to happen that way. RIGHT NOW,
we can change the future! :)

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From: steve@Celeborn.lvunix.com (Steve Slade)
Subject: Re: RIKER, KIRK'S SON
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Brian Young (brian.young@synapse.org) wrote:
: A friend of my has the following hypothesis...

: Hypothesis:

:     William T. Riker is Kirk's Son

: Evidence:

What about the episode (The Icarus factor I think) where we meet Cmdr Rikers
father and he learns his father has been beating him at that some martial arts
game all is life because his father cheats.
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: RED SHIRT'S REVENGE
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:18:17 GMT

gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Greg Pallenik) writes:

>In article <Bz273t.BCu@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, djf@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Marvin
>Batty) wrote:
>> 
>> -- 
>>                   Marvin Batty (AKA D. Fulford-Brown)
>>                          djf@cch.cov.ac.uk
>>                   "Space, the Final Frontier......"

>Okay, I'll bite.  What the Hell is this?

REALLY good question. I've been wondering it myself. I'm guessing it's
supposed to have a file with it that didn't get transmitted...

			CtB
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: Riker's love interests = modern day interracial dating
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:05:20 GMT

photon!uunet!pro-magic.oau.org!mikeu (Mike Ungerman) writes:

>knott@sfu.ca (Dave Knott) writes:

>>	Anyway, the point is that the Star Trek writers seem to take the  
>>view that most carbon-based, humanoid bipeds are able to couple with  
>>eachother. This has some rather interesting, if bizarre, possibilities.

>I think that most of the Star Trek writers take the commonly held opinion
>that if there is intellegent life besides ourselves "out there" that it is
>humanoid, bipedal in nature.

>If/when life is discovered "out there," the chances are more likely that it
>will bear no relationship to a human at all, let alone being able to mate
>with it and produce an offspring.

>All the writers/designers on Star Trek have seemed to need is a little facial
>makeup and some body paint to create an alien.  Of course, then, they have to
>stay within a fixed budget.  At least today's Klingons look a little more
>other worldly than the first versions of them in early Star Trek series.

Actually, that's not intirely true. First, the Star Trek Universe has been
"seeded". In other words, some old wise race went around plucking people off
various worlds and planted them on other class M planets to start a new race.
Now, that's want I've heard, but I'm not sure if it's cannon. That would
explain why most people are humaniod in nature, and semi to totally compatable
with Humans. 

Now, I'm not saying that Earth was the first humanoid planet, if may have been
just as much a "seed" world as any other. I'm also not says this explains *ALL*
aliens. For instance, Vulcans and Humans are *NOT* compatible. Spock was a 
child of genetic engeneering.


Second point: I think that the humanoid shape is a rather good and flexiable
one. Now, I'm no Biology major or anything, but the human form is very 
compatible with the world around us. Now is that because we made the world 
to fix us or cause we evolved to fit the world? (Please don't flame me, I am
a Religious person and don't believe in total evelutionism (and I can't
spell either!))

	Anyways, that's my two cents...

			CTB
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: t'pau?
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:29:50 EST

 -=> Ville V. Walveranta babbled to All and look what he said! <=-

 VVW> Does word "T'Pau" mean something or is it a co-incidence that
 VVW> there's a band which name is "T'Pau" and also a starship with
 VVW> the same name:

 VVW> T'Pau           Vulcan Ship             TNG "Unification"

 VVW> (from a recently here posted list of ships appeared in ST)

 VVW> The band with that name released their first album in 1987
 VVW> (and the most recent one last year).

To my knowledge, the band INTENTIONALLY called it the T'Pau.  You may
also note that T'Pau was that lady who was in the TOS episode Amok Time
who was high up there in the Vulcan political party.  She was there for
Spock's wedding.  The ship from Unification is simply a herald to the
name.  The actress also died last year.


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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: The Galileo Seven
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:48:45 GMT

A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:

>Last weeks TOS episode on BBC2 was "The Galileo Seven". The big E is en route to

>me that the Galileo used the rocket principle, ie threw something out of the back
>to make it go forward. If so how did Scotty refuel it with energy, you can have all
>the energy in the world but if you've got nothing to throw out the back you can't
>get anywhere. I expect someone out there has an technical answer to all this.

I believe that Spock just ejected the fuel and the fuel then ignited as it
stremed away from the Shuttle, thus causeing what appeared to be a "rocket
blast" out the rearend. I don't beli{ve that shuttles use rocket propulsion,
but I don't know for sure.


			CtB
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