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From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Subject: Re: Picard's Replacement
Keywords: Branagh
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:27:24 GMT

In article <29227@optima.cs.arizona.edu> margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
>
>I vote with the person who nominated Kenneth Branagh as Picard's
>replacement.  I think he'd be great.  Sense of humor, hair, good sparkle
>in the eye, commanding presence, hair, British accent, Shakespearen
>background, hair.
>
>-margaret

   Are you insinuating that Patrick Stewarts baldness is a bad thing.  I 
find it to be one of his strong points.  Don't pick on the crown (sheese)


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From: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM 
Subject: Re: DS9 review (SPOILERS)... 
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Reply-To: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:45:47 GMT


Some of y'all haven't seen it yet, so here goes........















Wayne.Benner@f148.n114.z1.tvbbs.UUCP (Wayne Benner) wrote:
>Quoted From: Jaye Mathisen 
>         To: All 
>       Date: 03 Jan 93  04:38:36 
>
> JM> least so far.  Dax, Drax, whatever  her name is... What a nincompoop.
> JM> "Making the station lighter..." ????????? I would love to see that. 
>
>Hmmm... I must have missed that.

Must have.  But I didn't think she was nincompoop-ish (?).  The line sucked
(how much weight is there in space??!) and it's done with.  Give her a few
episodes to get some depth.

>
> JM> good.  Rather than that me-too Riker putz.  Dr. I-wanna-be-a-hero, gak,
> JM> choke, wheeze, what a lightweight.  Sisko and the producers better put
> JM> in for a transfer for that weenie.
>
>Big disagreement here.  I thought it was refreshing to have a character
>that was there for the sole purpose of seeking adventure.  I'm sure it
>won't be long before he learns some big lessons about exactly what
>makes a hero.  And I doubt they'll be in a hurry to transfer a Dr. that
>could have chosen any assignment he wanted.  He's obviously supposed
>to be the absolute best, if a bit naive.

I _don't_ agree with that.....he's good enough to be in charge at a remote
station.  He is going to be a good plot device and probably comic foil, though.
I read that the actor described his character as something like a cosmic slut
.......pursuing Dax & likely following in the illustrious footsteps of Riker
and Kirk   :^}

>
> JM> It's too bad that Ensign Ro isn't assigned to DS9, she would really 
> JM> spice things up.
>
>Michelle Forbes was offered the role of first officer on DSN, but turned
>it down.  I suppose in a couple of years when she can't find work she'll
>be crawling back and wanting a part, a la Denise Crosby.
>
Nana Visitor appears to be capable of doing the character justice.  I trust
that the writers have a lot in store for her........she spent an awful lot of
that episode p.o.'d at Sisko, the station, Quark, the Cardassians, the doctor,
etc.  The character needs to show vulnerability and/or spirituality in the
future.  But I thought Nana put some good touches in, eg; setting herself 
just before ordering "on screen" to talk to the Cardassians.

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From: medic@hardy.u.washington.edu (Travis Lauricella)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STARDATES : TNG
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:18:40 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
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burkhard@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Burkhardt) writes:

>Carl Mackin (cmackin@bu.edu) wrote:
>: >stardate 43625.2
>: >4 means the 24th century
>: >3 means the season
>: >625 means the day of the year
>: >.2 means the tenth of the day

>Am I misunderstanding something, or is the season digit redundent?  After
>all, the stardate includes the number of the day of the year?  Shouldn't
>we be able to tell, by looking at the stardate, that day #625 is in the
>3rd season of the year?  (like knowing that july is in the summer?)

No, by season he means year of production.  ST:TNG is now in it's sixth
season.  By the above, I can tell that YE must have been shown sometime
around, say Feb. 1990?  (Since season 3 was 89-90, and 625 would indicate
sometime a little past the middle of the third season.)

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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG - Plot flaw or am I missing something?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:35:23 GMT

In <dlileiki.16.726776992@AFIT.AF.MIL> dlileiki@AFIT.AF.MIL writes:

>I just saw the ST:TNG episode where subspace creatures kidnap members of the 
>Enterprise crew, do experiments on them, and send them back.  The storyline 
>implies that these creatures found the Enterprise because of Jordie's sensor 
>adjustments.  However, the show opens with Ricker having trouble sleeping 
>nights and ferarful of Doctor Crusher's instrument BEFORE the sensor 
>changes are made. To me, this implies the creatures were already aware of 
>the Enterprise crew and the sensors had nothing to do with it.

>Did I miss something or what?

I also saw the episode this weekend (but since it was a rerun, I didn't
tape. Maybe my dad did so I'll recheck the tape) but as I recall LaForge
tells Riker that he has already done the "warp power transfer" so the
damage was done before hand (ie As Riker was having his sleeping problems)
so there wasn't a flaw.

I could easily be wrong about this and I probably can't verify this with
actual fact... but I'll try!

Alan Bick

From: Wayne.Benner@f148.n114.z1.tvbbs.UUCP (Wayne Benner)
Sender: FredMail@tvbbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Sex, the Final Frontier?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:19:28 -0700

Quoted From: Jonathan Papai 
         To: All 
       Date: 06 Jan 93  18:40:28 

 >BZZZT.  TOS used meters and kilometers.
 JP> 
 JP> BZZZT.  I'm not a trekkie, like you people.  But I know I've heard
 JP> 'miles' and 'feet' used by the crew of the ncc1701 (no bloody a, b,
 JP> c, or d).  I've never heard these useful units used on ST:TNG.

I remember different episodes of TOS using both types of measurements.
I suppose it depended on who the script writer was. <G>

... I'll have one brain on drugs with bacon, toast and juice.
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From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Takei on BBCtv's "Gone Live" 2-1-93
Date: 4 Jan 93 10:08:10 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

Hi there, happy new year etc.

Saturday morning George Takei was on the the Beeb's childrens show "Gone Live".
He appeared after an episode of TAS (The Lorelei Signal). George gave us brits
*exclusive* news (uh huh) that there was going to be a Star Trek VII movie and
he wants it to be called "The voyages of Capt. Sulu". I'm taking this with 
a pinch of salt as I know from the net that George has been trying to get a
Capt. Sulu movie going for months.

It would be interesting to see Capt. Sulu on the Excelsior without the other 6
regulars although I bet the other 6 could get on somehow. Maybe Capt Sulu with his
first officer Pavel Chekov could give Ambassador Spock a ride somewhere, maybe at
the start of the movie Admiral Kirk could give them their orders or something.

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
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From: rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com (Rich Kolker)
Subject: Re: Gold Plaque
Organization: South Coast Computing Services, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:01:03 GMT

In article <5611@daily-planet.concordia.ca> kupo@cs.concordia.ca (KUPO francois) writes:
>
>Does anyone know what is written on the gold plaque on the bridge of the
>Enterprise from TOS?  You know, the one just under the Red Alert beacon?
>Two guesses:  a commissioning plaque (ie, something like "USS Enterprise
>NCC-1701 commissioned on stardate blah-blah...") or the "To boldly go..."
>speech.  Anyone know for sure?
>
>JFK
>

It's the commissioning placque.  I haven't looked at it lately,
but it's something like "U.S.S. Enterprise, San Francisco Yards" and a
stardate.  There is also a commissioning placque in the bridge of
the NCC-1701D that includes "Gene Roddenberry, Grand Admiral".
.
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From: jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (J. Michael Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: That thing Odo does (DS9 Spoiler Alert!)
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:01:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <C0Ktp1.Cxq@ns1.nodak.edu> fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein) writes:
>- Were we introduced to the "old man" Dax early in the episode?
>  I thought maybe he was on the Saratoga but couldn't find him.
>  Is Dax a woman with the old guy's consciousness, or what?  I
>  don't expect this to be presented in the pilot, though.  We
>  can't wait to see this explained.
>
I will resist temptation to really flame you and calmly explain"

Dax is a Trill..... A dual being (a symbiant (sp?) and a host)
That is what the whole Dax/Orb scene was about... Dax's worm (symbiant)\
was being transfered from the old man host who was about to die to the host
that we all know Dax in now....

>
>
>Clint
>
>Disclaimer:  In junior high, I was one of the state's best
>             spellers.  But I was not asked any Star Trek
>             alien creature names.  So look out. :)
> __________________________________________________________________________
> Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
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From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers <SPOILERS>
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:01:23 GMT

In article <rawdon.726443499@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1993Jan7.143118.8159@newssun.med.miami.edu> dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (D


aniel Brown) writes:
>>I'm not sure if this is the right place to talk about the new
>>series "Space Rangers," but since it is supposed to bring
>>competition to ST I thought I would.
>
>Space Rangers is entirely unrelated to Star Trek.  Unless you're actually
>discussing it in the context of Star Trek (say, making a direct comparison)
>you should NOT post Space Rangers material to any rec.arts.startrek newsgroup.
>The proper place for it is rec.arts.sf.tv
>
>--
>Michael Rawdon				  rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu

Do you suppose the same could be said for the startrek stuff
constantly ending up in alt.folklore.urban?

-J.
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Picard's Replacement
Keywords: Branagh
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:25:58 GMT


I vote with the person who nominated Kenneth Branagh as Picard's
replacement.  I think he'd be great.  Sense of humor, hair, good sparkle
in the eye, commanding presence, hair, British accent, Shakespearen
background, hair.

-margaret
From: haumer@messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Peter Haumer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: ListOfLists - lost
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:22:04 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: messua.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

I accidently erased my ListOfLists file, which I got here last week.
Can please somebody mail me that posting.

	Thanks in advance, Peter.


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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Live - long - and - prosper (?)
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 08:08:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.084723.9849@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stailey@comm.mot.com writes:
>(Argun Tekant) writes:
>
>*I've been having doubts on how this phrase should be interpreted.
>
>*Is it:
>*	(LIVE LONG) and (PROSPER)
>*or 
>*	Live (LONG and PROSPER)
>*
>*What do you people thinks?
>
> Methinks someone has way too much time on their hands.

Me too...

However, I know for a fact that I, myself, have way too much time on my hands
(unemployment SUCKS!!!) so I'll toss in my two cents.

The phrase is obviously (LIVE LONG) and (PROSPER). For it to be interpreted the
second way, it would be two phrases combined into one, "live long" and "live
prosper". Obviously, the second one makes no sense at all. To be made sense
of, it would have to be "live prosperously" (is that even a word?) and the
final phrase would be "live long and prosperously". 

So, the phrase means "live long, and I hope that, from the experinces gained
from that life, you will prosper."


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From: ZEINEJOHNSONDS%DFYC@pcmail.usafa.af.mil (D. Satin Zeine-Johnson)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Help with TNG tapes!
Organization: United States Air Force Academy
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:37:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.212748.29477@prime.mdata.fi> hikonen@mits.mdata.fi (Harri Ikonen) writes:


>I am thinking of ordering the first season STTNG tapes from UK and I got
>a catalog from a mail-order company. However, I noticed that the episodes
>are NOT in any kind of order (For example, tape #13 has second season
>episodes "A Matter Of Honor" and "The Measure Of Man" when it's supposed
>to have the last episodes of the first season) and the catalog didn't
>have the contents for all of the tapes.

>Also, some of the prices were extremely high. The normal price is about
>10-11 UK pounds, but there were couple of tapes, which cost #49.95 !!

>There were also two versions of "Unification", the first costs #10.99 and
>the second #49.95. I have the cheaper tape, but what is this expensive
>version?

>So, could someone mail me the contents of the tapes #1-24 and confirm if
>some tapes really have *that* high prices. I have a feeling that the
>company is trying to rip me off...

>Thanks in advance!

>--
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I ordered the tapes (am still getting them) from Columbia - and am paying - 
including shipping and handling - $28.65 per tape.  Each tape is in a nice 
hard plastic box, 2 episodes per tape, and are in order.  I have all of the 
original series, and 14 of TNG now (I think).  If you are interested, I can 
find the address for Columbia and you can do it this way instead.  The tapes 
are excellent quality, and show both Star Date and Original Air Date before 
each tape begins.

Take care

Satin
From: bbs.maddox@tsoft.net (Otto Maddox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Transporter question..
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:55:48 GMT
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238

I have alwasy wondered why the people in Star Trek have to go to the 
Transporter room to beam to places when in times of crisis they can beam 
directly to the bridge or directly to other places?


Otto Maddox 
[ bbs.maddox@tsoft.net ] [ maddox@west.darkside.com ]
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From: dboese@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Darcy Boese)
Subject: Re: That thing Odo does (DS9 Spoiler Alert!)
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:54:02 GMT

My guess would be that Odo is actually one of the beings from inside the
wormhole!  By some freak accident, perhaps when one of us linear-beings
entered the wormhole, he was trapped outside.

Having no concept of linear time, he would not have any memory of where
he came from... and being one of those non-linear beings, he would have
the ability to be what he imagines.

Is this too tacky?
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Just a note about Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:42:46 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1993Jan05.123737.33069@watson.ibm.com> annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com () writes:
>In article <2935214186.0.p00169@psilink.com> p00169@psilink.com (Jeffrey W. Dean) writes:
>>
>>is just me or do you have the urge to say Deep Six Nine?) will be on
>
>One of my co-workers consistently calls it Deep Throat Nine :-)
>
Deep Space 1999?

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From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Picard's Replacement
Summary: bald is beautiful!
Keywords: Branagh
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:31:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.182724.6536@ils.nwu.edu>, dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes:
> In article <29227@optima.cs.arizona.edu> margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
> >
> >I vote with the person who nominated Kenneth Branagh as Picard's
> >replacement.  I think he'd be great.  Sense of humor, hair, good sparkle
> >in the eye, commanding presence, hair, British accent, Shakespearen
> >background, hair.
> >
> >-margaret
> 
>    Are you insinuating that Patrick Stewarts baldness is a bad thing.  I 
> find it to be one of his strong points.  Don't pick on the crown (sheese)

No, I didn't mean to say that baldness is a bad thing!  -unless you are
a young man going bald (depends on your outlook?).  I heard that Stewart
is very touchy about his lack of hair (on his head).  Really, I was just
being silly!

I did not care for Stewart's Picard when I first started watching STNG,
and did not watch for quite a while.  These last few years I have been
watching more steadily, and have come to appreciate both Stewart and
Picard.  Replacing Picard, if it comes to that, will be difficult.

-margaret
From: priss@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Lisa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ships in DS9: Computer Animated or modeled?
Keywords: deep space 9 ds9 DS9 ships animated
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:11:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.priss.726865889
Organization: University of Washington
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In <1993Jan12.071348.22609@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:

>In article <C0MtAK.F6w@rahul.net> harlock@rahul.net (Mike Harlock) writes:
>>   What I would like to know is weather the ships are computer animated or not.
>>Last I heard, *ALL* of the ships in the TNG series and DS9 are all modeled
>>and blue-screened.   Can someone with a reliable source tell me?
>>I haven't had a chance to go back and watch it again.

>Well, when TNG was first created, the SFX company contracted for the work (not
>the stock footage from ILM, the later stuff) developed a new blue-screen
>process that reduces the time necessary for such a shot, but the final result
>tends to look "aliased". It is not however, computer animation. It is done with
>models. I don't know for sure if the same thing is done on DSN, but I must
>assume that it is.

I could tell you right now that DS9 and TNG uses model/blue screen for two good
reasons.  Computer Animation has two slight problems over all.  It looks way
too 'clean' with very awkward lighting scemes and also has a motion that is
far too fluid. (Re: Space Rangers's Ship is Computer Animated)  The problem
with models, is that you can pretty much see some of the faults and problems
of it's looks fairly easily (Or, at least I can).  Take a look at 'Mind's Eye'
or 'Beyond the Mind's Eye' which are two video tapes of computer animation.
Both of them will give you a clearer idea of how you can contrast Computer
animation to model motion.

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From: Baird_David@Tandem.com (David G. Baird)
Subject: Ode to Spot
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Tandem Computers (Cupertino, CA)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:15:25 GMT

Ode To Spot

Felis Catis is your taxonomic nomenclature
An endothermic quadruped
Carnivorous by nature
Your visual, olfactory and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills
And natural defenses
I find myself intrigued by
Your subvocal oscillations
A singular development
Of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur
To demonstrate affection
A tail is quite essential
For your acrobatic talents
You would not be so agile
If you lacked its counterbalance
And when not being utilized
To aid in locomotion
If often serves to illustrate
The state of your emotion
Oh spot
The complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well developed
Cognitive array
And though you are not sentient
Spot
And do not comprehend
I nonetheless consider you
A true
And valued
Friend