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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:44:35 EST
From:         Jim Jones <JIMJ@JHUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Message

 If LISTSERV receives mail that has a tortured enough mail header,
 it will send insert new header line with the e-mail address of
 the local postmaster.  The name field of that line will be set to
 "... c/o postmaster" so that people will know it wasn't really from
 the postmaster.  If you fetch the mail file in question from the
 archives, there should be some indication that the original "From:"
 field was invalid.

 -jj

 PS - Here's an example from one of JHUVM's list archives.  Nothing
 like a concrete example to explain something... :)

 ------ sample mail file follows:
> print all of 1308
>>> Item number 1308, dated 92/02/02 11:40:26 -- ALL
Date:         Sun, 2 Feb 1992 11:40:26 EST
Reply-To:     Multi-byte Code Issues <ISO10646@JHUVM.BITNET>
Comments:     <Parser> E: Mail origin cannot be determined.
Comments:     <Parser> E: Original tag was -> FROM:
              "xxxxxxx%nlsarch.austin.ibm.com"
              <xxxxxxx%nlsarch.austin.ibm.com%SUN.C
From:         Undetermined origin c/o Postmaster <POSTMASTER@JHUVM.BITNET>
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Organization: "ECU Computing and Information Systems"
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:55:27 EST
From:         "Brad S. Carson" <SSBSC@ECUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Please explain :BACKBONE tag in PEERS NAMES
Comments: cc: Richard Scinto <SSRICH@ECUVM1.BITNET>,
          "Robert L. Hudson" <SSROB@ECUVM1.BITNET>

With the changes going on in the North Carolina State network (NCSUVM's
removal in March and UNCVM1's this summer) ECUVM1's MAILER and LISTSERV
traffic has increased dramatically (can you say over 2000%).  Needless
to say our little 4381 is a very busy machine now.

It has been suggested to us that we change our :BACKBONE entry in the
PEERS NAMES file from ":BACKBONE.YES" to ":BACKBONE.YES DISTRIBUTE(NO)".
I believe that doing this will not relieve the load on our system, but
because of the settings of the :LINKS in BITEARN NODES it will increase
the traffic on our system because someone else's LISTSERV will have to
to the DISTRIBUTE work for us.

My question is: Can someone really explain to me (in detail) the differences
between BACKBONE.YES and BACKBONE.YES DISTRIBUTE(NO)?

Thanks in advance for any and all help.


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brad S. Carson                       Bitnet  :  SSBSC@ECUVM1
Systems Programmer (VM, MVS & VMS)   Internet:  SSBSC@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU
East Carolina University             NASCOMM :  CarsBraS
Austin Building Room 108             Bellnet :  (919) 757 - 4346
Greenville, NC 27858
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:22:38 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: IR=Ireland or Iran?
              27 Jan 1993 17:45:40 CST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
              <LSTSRV-L@SEARN>

Iran is a recent addition, that's  all. It wasn't in the file distributed
with 1.7e,  it is in  the version  available from LISTSERV@SEARN  which I
update regularly, but which  I can't force everyone to go  to the pain of
installing when it does get updated.

  Eric
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:55:47 +0100
From:         Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LPUNCH no longer used in Release 1.7e
              24 Jan 1993 21:34:54 EST from "Forum on LISTSERV release 1.7"
              <LSTSRV-L@SEARN>

On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:34:54 EST Barry Krawchuk <BDK01@ALBNYDH2> said:

>Since installation of  1.7e, the files are mailed, but  the contents are
>wrapped at the 80th column. This is definitely new.

This is because  1.7e introduced support for mail with  lines longer than
80 bytes. It  is not generally possible for LISTSERV  to know whether the
target system  can handle mail  with lines longer  than 80, but  it would
certainly  be  counter-productive to  run  everything  through LPUNCH  by
default. The purpose of LPUNCH, when  it was introduced in 1986-7, was to
provide  a simpler  alternative to  Netdata  for NJE  sites which  didn't
support  it yet.  The acceptance  factor of  LPUNCH in  the Internet/unix
world is pretty close to zero (ie  I consider myself lucky if I don't get
flamed by  users who got  a file in that  format). You can  still request
LPUNCH  format by  tagging your  command with  'F=LPUN', but  it will  no
longer be the default.

  Eric
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lstsrv-l
Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:40:54 EST
From:         David Jelinek <34AAQ77@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Some problems with DIGEST

I've applied 17E-002D FIX on 1/18/93. listname DIGEST files were created
by default for each list that was being logged as I expected. Each DIGEST
is still being built but none are emptied out at the end of the day.
I thought that the default was YES,SAME,DAILY. I even set up one list
as explicity YES,SAME,DAILY and subscribed to the list and then set my
options to DIGEST. I've yet to receive anything from the list even though
it is receiving 10-30 postings a day. I imagine I've overlooked something
very obvious, but I can't imagine what it could be. Any help would be
appreciated. Thanks in advance.


David Jelinek                   BITNET:   34AAQ77@CMUVM
Systems Programmer
Central Michigan University     INTERNET: 34AAQ77@cmuvm.csv.cmich.edu
NAD & Tech Rep for CMU
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:23:35 PST
Comments:     Resent-From: Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: Eric Thomas <ERIC@SEARN.BITNET>
From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Erik Naggum
              28 Jan 93 09:14:07 PST from Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM>

PCBUILD is a list devoted to building and repairing IBM clone PCs.  It
has 300 subscribers in the first 3 weeks and has "overwhelmed" the host
site.  This is not because it had a lot of traffic (about 20 posts per
day) but because it had a lot of subscribers.  Please do NOT ASK ME to
explain why this overloaded the host.  Maybe they weren't running
LISTSERV?   Anyway this list needs a new home.  If you can help please
let me know.  The list is currently suspended.   Dave

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU     fax-> 7797
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941      voice-> (415)731-7793
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:45:57 MST
From:         Kingsavanh Bounkeua <KING@UNMVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      LISTSERV reject posting

Hello networker.
      I set up a test-L to do some testing and the following is the message
I get back to LISTSREV. Any ideas why? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks for your time.

-Kingsavanh Bounkeua
BITNET:   KING@UNMVMA
INTERNET: KING@UNMVMA.UNM.EDU
----------------- Error message follow ---------------------

From LISTSERV@unmvma.unm.edu Mon Jan 25 10:28:38 1993
Status: R

        id <AA17318>; Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:28:36 -0700
Received: by ariel.unm.edu (5.57/0.1)
        id <AA17294>; Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:28:34 -0700
Message-Id: <9301251728.AA17294@ariel.unm.edu>
Received: from UNMVMA.UNM.EDU by unmvma.unm.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
   with BSMTP id 0371; Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:27:23 MST
Received: from UNMVMA.BITNET by UNMVMA.UNM.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id
 6190; Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:27:23 MST
Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:27:23 -0700
From: Revised List Processor (1.7e) <LISTSERV@unmvma.unm.edu>
Subject:      Rejected posting to TEST-L@UNMVMA
To: Kingsavanh Bounkeua <sbounke@triton.unm.edu>

You are not authorized to mail to list TEST-L from your sbounke@TRITON.UNM.EDU
account. You  might be  authorized to post  to the list  from another  of your
accounts or  under a slightly  different address, but  LISTSERV has no  way to
associate this  other account or address  with you and is  thus rejecting your
message. Your  message is being returned  to you unprocessed. If  you have any
question regarding authorization to use the TEST-L list, please contact one of
the list owners, whose names and addresses are listed below:

 Kingsavanh Bounkeua <KING@UNMVMA.BITNET>

------------------------- Rejected message (13 lines) -------------------------
Received: from UNMVMA by UNMVMA.UNM.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 6179; Mon,
 25 Jan 93 10:25:36 MST
Received: from triton.unm.edu by unmvma.unm.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP;
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        id <AA17188>; Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:26:44 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:26:44 -0700
From: Kingsavanh Bounkeua CIRT <sbounke@triton.unm.edu>
Message-Id: <9301251726.AA17188@triton.unm.edu>
To: test-l@unmvma
Subject: testing.

testing...

----------------- test-l header follow --------------
*
* Testing list
*
*  Review= OPEN      Subscription= OPEN         Send= OPEN
*  Notify= Yes       Reply-to= List,Ignore      Files= Yes
*  Validate= store only
*  Confidential= No  Ack= Yes Errors-To= king@unmvma
*  Notebook= No
*  pw= xxxxxxx
*
*  Owner= king@unmvma          (Kingsavanh Bounkeua)
*
sbounke@triton.unm.edu Kingsavanh Bounkeua
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lstsrv-l
Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:29:31 EST
Comments:     Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2
From:         "Mignon Erixon-Stanford,
              Academic Systems Head" <IRMSS907@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      LOCAL SYSVARS file question

From:    Mignon Erixon-Stanford, Academic Systems Head


John Clutcher said:
>When we send from Office Vision (OVVM) with Profs Extended Mail (PEM)
>to a list on Listserv (TSCHG-L as an example), mail goes to TSCHG-L
>"dummy" userid's reader as being sent from the OVVM mailbox manager.

It sounds like the PEM is not configured properly.  You know who runs
PEM is U. of Md. Academic Computer Center.  You might talk to Mary Posey.
She's  MPOSEY@UMDACC.

(Smithsonian is happily running PUMP.  Thank you Joe Sparrow.)

                                                              .
      =-=-=-=-=-=-  IRMSS907@SIVM or SIVM.SI.EDU  -=-=-=-=-=-=
  Research Systems Division     Smithsonian Institution
  Voice: 202-357-4243           Fax: 202-786-2687
From: ERIC@SEARN.BITNET (Eric Thomas)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lstsrv-l
Subject: SET RELPAGE OFF
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:29:32 GMT
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I have just noticed that many LISTSERV functions will perform much better
if you add SET RELPAGE OFF to LISTSERV's profile. For instance, a refresh
of the LISTS database takes 24.8 seconds of VCPU on SEARN with the normal
RELPAGE ON setting and 19.8 (20% off) with RELPAGE OFF. The only drawback
is that, if LISTSERV needs a lot of storage to perform a certain function
and then  releases it,  it will not  notify CP that  the contents  of the
pages are no longer important. This forces  CP to keep page slots on DASD
for the  corresponding virtual memory  locations, and it may  take longer
for the real memory frames to be reallocated to another user since CP has
to assume  they are still needed  until they have been  unreferenced long
enough. The paging DASD allocation issue is negligible on anything bigger
than a  9370 with 5  users whereas the  recycling time problem  will only
impact small to medium page-bound systems  (on a large system LISTSERV is
just a  user among a thousand  and it doesn't make  any difference). This
command will be included in the startup code in the next release.

  Eric
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.edi-l
Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:29:03 CST
From:         Carol Morgan <C08902CM@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      EDI References

Hi.  I was wondering if anyone out there could provide some references
for EDI software and Value Added Networks.  We are just getting started
with ANSI X.12 EDI here at Washington University in St. Louis, Mo.
Plans are currently in the works to implement Purchase Orders and Invoices.

Soon we will be evaluating EDI software and choosing a Value Added Network.
We have chosen the IBM PC platform.  I am planning on evaluating
TSI's Trading Partner PC, Supply Tech STX, MULTINET-PC by Blue Rainbow,
and EDI Excel by ABC.

Can anyone provide references for these packages and/or companys?  AND any
suggestions for VANs?

Also - Can anyone tell me about the mapper piece of the EDI software?  How
important is it to get software with a good mapper.  It appears that
you can pay up to $5000.00 just for the mapper module alone.

Thanks in advance!
Carol Morgan
C08902CM@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:11:15 EST
From: William Amos <WAMOS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.edi-l
Subject: Using EDI with Electronic Signature

I looking for information concerning the use of electronic signature with
automated forms packages.
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:37:35 PST
Reply-To:     Hatzigeorgiu <nickolas@PHYSICS.UCLA.EDU>
From:         Hatzigeorgiu <nickolas@PHYSICS.UCLA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Apospasma apo ton OIKONOMIKO TAXYDROMO
Comments: To: hara@VORTEX.MATHEMATICS.MANCHESTER.AC.UK
Comments: cc: hellas@uga.bitnet

> sxoliazan me ta pio kaystika epi0eta th spoydh ths ellhnikhs
> politikhs skhnhs na aporripsei thn protash ths diathsias,
> "thn teleytaia sanida swthrias poy eteinan sthn Ellada prin
> to nayagio".

Gia siga re paidia giati arxisa va mperdeuomai! Ta Skopia dev ntav
pou aporripsave tn diaitnsia evw emeis tnv eixame dextei;;;
Telika oi "avalutes" eivai pou xreiazovtai "avalusn" (tupou Fro.u.vt)
....

Nikos, Ucla
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:09:04 CST
Reply-To:     "Peter G. Petropoulos" <peter@OUZO.BROOKS.AF.MIL>
From:         "Peter G. Petropoulos" <peter@OUZO.BROOKS.AF.MIL>
Subject:      Re: apo to bhma..
Comments: To: hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu

Ellnve grngoreite, mas pnrav xampari oi "kakoi ksevoi"...

>Ereuna ths EOK apokaluptei oti h suntriptikh pleiopshfia twn Ellhnwn
>ektima pws h ergasia blaptei thn ugeia.
>
>Pws thn blaptei; To 67% twn Ellhnwn exoun antilhftei oti h ergasia
>epiferei thn astheneia ths "genikhs   kopwsews".  To antistoixo
>pososto gia tis upoloipes xwres ths EOK einai 22%.
>
>Therizei h genikh kopwsh sthn Ellada.

Gevika kopwmevos,
Petros
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:31:15 -0500
Reply-To:     Ioannis REKLEITIS <yiannis@BINKLEY.CS.MCGILL.CA>
From:         Ioannis REKLEITIS <yiannis@BINKLEY.CS.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Re: KATALHPSEIS
Comments: To: SLIOLIS@UTCVM.BITNET
Comments: cc: HELLAS@brownvm.brown.edu

Gia katse bre spuro pou eixes esu kapoio epixeirhma ektos
apo to oti h antilhph mou einai Mpatsoi Gourounia Dolofonoi
kai malista otan egw eipa oti h antilhpsh gia anakatalhpsh
kai sfaliares odhghse sthn dolofonia Temponera.

Oso gia to :
>>>>>>>>>>
>Oso gia katalhpseis xwris suneleush einai sxedon adunaton
>na krathsoun!!!

That's a JOKE !!!

<<<<<<<<<
Epimenw oti an se ena sxoleio 400 mathitwn oi trakosioi theloun
na mpoun kai tous empodizoun 100 katalhpsh den ginete.

Yiannis
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:09:33 GMT
Reply-To:     liotopou@CAE.WISC.EDU
From:         liotopou@CAE.WISC.EDU
Subject:      Re: Mnvologio 25/1
Comments: To: CE_SOTIRIS@A.COE.WVU.WVNET.EDU
Comments: cc: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu
              "CE_SOTIRIS@A.COE.WVU.WVNET.EDU" at Jan 24, 93 10:52 pm

>
>         Filoi mou aurio eivai n giortn tou Agiou Grngoriou tou 0eologou
> Xrovia polla stous Grngorndes, Grngories.  twra dev eimai sigouros av
 giortazouv
> kai oi 0eologoi alla av vai xrovia polla stov Liotopoulo. Episns xrovia polla
> stov Loukede (n kati tetoio).
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
>

        Giortazoun ...giortazoun .. :-))) Xilia eyxaristw gia tis eyxes...
Kai apo mena xronia polla se oloys toys Grhgorhdes.

--
                    TTTTT H   H EEEEE  OOO  L      OOO   GGG   OOO   SSS
                      T   H   H E     O   O L     O   O G     O   O S
                      T   HHHHH EEE   O   O L     O   O G GGG O   O  SSS
                      T   H   H E     O   O L     O   O G   G O   O     S
                      T   H   H EEEEE  OOO  LLLLL  OOO   GGG   OOO   SSS


                                       ELLHNAS - MAKEDONAS

                 "....Se ligo tha mas poyn oti ki o Boukefalas htan zastava.."

e-mail: liotopou@cae.wisc.edu
  Theologos K. Liotopoulos
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:59:57 EST
Reply-To:     Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
From:         Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      O fake tou socrates enas mpines apo to Virginia Tech !!!
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

O postmaster tou socrates brhke ton kwloroufhxtra pou estelne fakes apo dw !!
Spure, 0a sou steilw ta stoixeia tou gia na ton kanoniseis listarxikws kata to
katastatiko ths Hellas. Oi alles mh biazeste na ma0ete apo twra to onoma tou.
)0a to ma0ete en kairw ...

Nikos Gavrielatos
To Sixameno Plasma
gavriel@socrates.umd.edu
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Organization: Univ. of TN at Chatt., Engr Dept
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:22:39 EST
Reply-To:     Spiros Liolis <SLIOLIS@UTCVM.BITNET>
From:         Spiros Liolis <SLIOLIS@UTCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Alxhmeies...

Nai paparia ton bgazei.

An ton ebgaze 0a to eblepa apo edw.

spiros
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:04:34 EST
Reply-To:     Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
From:         Nick Gavrielatos <gavriel@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: OSFP ekselikseis...
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

> Kai gamw tis malakies!
> Grapste to kapou: "H A0letiko 0a mas __misei!"

Sumfwnw kai epauksanw. O monos logos pou epembainw einai aplws
na tonisw pws otan o Kuriakos egrapse __misei, den ennouse th
leskh "misei"(tonos sth lhgousa), alla thn gnwsth kathxhtikh
leksh:

GAmisei    -- tonos sth paralhgousa... :-)
--

Oxi, mhn tuxon kai egine kammia ... parekshghsh...:-)

Nikos Gavrielatos
To Sixameno Plasma
gavriel@socrates.umd.edu
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:26:00 EST
Reply-To:     Bernd Bachmann <bachmann@DFKI.UNI-KL.DE>
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was SDA106@PSUVM
From:         Bernd Bachmann <bachmann@DFKI.UNI-KL.DE>
Subject:      STRATIWTIKO

Rwtnsa sto Prokseveio tns Kolwnias av mborei kaveis na parei gia
paradeigma tnv germavikn Ypukwotnta kai kat' auto tov tropo va
apallagei apo to stratiwtiko. O Tupos ekei mou eipai oti auto
dev mborei va givei, giati otav tha kavw tnv aitnsn oi Germanoi
tha rwtnsouv tous Ellnves av mborw va apodwsw tnv ellnvikn
Ypukwotnta kai oi Ellnves tha to mblokarouv, giati egw dev exw
upnretnsei akomn. Kserei kaveis kapoia Periptwsn pou va ta katafere
kapoios va parei tnv ksevn Ypukwotnta xwreis va tou kavouv oi dikoi
mas katw problnmata ???

Thanos

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From: nickolas@PHYSICS.UCLA.EDU (Hatzigeorgiu)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Subject: Re: OSFP e3elei3eis...
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:59:45 GMT
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Comments: To: hellas@uga.bitnet

>
> H malakia ths xronias.  Etsi pote den 0a pame mprosta.
> Anti na tri3oun ta dontia sta tsoglania karapialh kai sia
> diw3an ton Mpalxin!
>
> Kai gamw tis malakies!
> Grapste to kapou: "H A0letiko 0a mas __misei!"
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> Kyriakos Georgiou
> kyriakos@cse.unl.edu
> 1as apo tous 1528 gaurous
>

Re eiste kseftules, pote 0a to parete xampari;
Eivai akomn proedros o Ntaifas .n. paizei pia prefa me
tous allous duo stov Korudallo;

Nikos, Ucla...........PAO, vtampl se podosfairo-mpasket!
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From:         "Varnavas A. Lambrou" <V999SAUM@UBVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Eis oiwvos aristos, amuves8e peri patris
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Epeidn givetai kapoia suzntnsn gia to stratiwtiko kai diafores gvwmes
akougovte, 8a '8ela ki egw me tn seira mou va ekfrasw tn dikn mou.

Opws ka8e kuprios, exw upnretnsei tn 8nteia mou ki exw proswpikn avtilnpsn
epi tou 8ematos. To pws avtimetwpizei kaveis to strato eivai ka8ara proswpiko
tou 8ema: Av 8es va to kaveis xabale, mporeis va to kaveis. Av 8es va boleuteis
kapou, ki exeis to meso, mporeis va to kaveis. Av 8es va upnretnseis swsta tnv
patrida sou prosferovtas, s' opoio posto ki av eisai, olo sou tov eauto pali
mporeis va to kaveis.

To pio duskolo, fusika, eivai kai to teleutaio xwris omws va eivai aduvato. Oi
pio polloi apo tous sustratiwtes sou 8a se pouv "movimo", 8a se brizouv pisw
apo tnv platn sou, kai oi pio "gevvaioi" mprosta sou. Epeidn kaveis auto pou
diataxtnkes va kaveis, auto pou prepei va kaveis. Otav omws bre8ouv se mia
duskoln wra, oloi trexouv se seva pou 3erouv oti ki ekpaideumevos eisai, kai
stratiwtikn suveidnsn exeis.

Duo xrovia apo tn zwn mas, mprosta sta 70+ pou 8a znsoume, ta xrwstame stnv
patrida mas. Duo xrovia eivai polu liga, av skeftoume malista kai tn duskoln
periodo pou perva o ellnvismos snmera.

Osoi apo esas 8a pate strato, dex8eite mia sumbouln apo meva, av 8elete:
Ekmetalleu8eite oso kalutera mporeite tnv eukairia pou sas divete. Mnv
afnsete duo xrovia apo tnv zwn sas va xa8ouve adika, kavovtas tourismo.
Mnv afnsete tis seirnves tns loufas kai tou wxadelfismou va sas parasurouv.
Ma8ete osa pio polla mporeite gia to strato, kai tn 8esn sas. Kavte tov
eauto sas upnretn tns patridas gia ligo kairo movo.

Priv to 1974 stnv Kupro upnrxe n vootropia: "Oudeis epe8ave apo tnv loufa."
...Meta to kalokairi tou 1974: "Oudeis epeznse apo tnv loufa."...

VAL
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