HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: johnsd2@rs6325.ecs.rpi.edu (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: Re: Only Mac Does It
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:06:21 GMT

In article <la4st0INN42f@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes:
[various stuff about Windows NT deleted]
|> 
|> None of them define what "NT" means.  Please?
|> 

"New Technology", I believe.

[more deletions]
-- 
			- Dan Johnson
And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0

These opinions have had all identifiying marks removed, and are untraceable.
You'll never know whose they are.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: FX comes into its own?
From: tmaehl@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:26:50 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

After bringing up the subject of the specialized I/O processors
in the FX, I had a thought: Since system 7.1 supposedly allows
Apple to provide an extension to make new mac processors compatible
with the system, that is, no more incremental system versions every
time Apple comes out with a new mac, does this mean that Apple
will finally provide a non-A/UX solution for using those specialized
processors on the FX, and more importantly, that we'll see future
macs go back to the multiple/specialized processors??

Thanks for your thoughts,

Jonathan/tmaehl@vax1.umkc.edu
From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:14:11 GMT
Reply-To: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Particle Physics Research Group

In article <1992Sep2.110323.1622@sun.pcl.ac.uk>, marcus@sun.pcl.ac.uk (Marcus Harvey) writes:
>In article <ewright.714941609@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>>Um, why should you *need* documentation to use the operating system.
>>Do you need documentation to drive your car?  Use your imagination 

>Most of us need a number if instructive lessons with an expert and
>a close study of the Highway Code booklet before being subjected to
>a gruelling proficiency test. Perhaps Americans don't have to learn how
>to drive (or shoot guns) ;-)

These analogies usually wear thin pretty quickly, but I'll take a stab at 
this one.  True, you do need lessons the first time you drive a car.  You 
pass a test, and get a license to drive.  Your first car is usually a 
clunky old thing that doesn't run too well, has bad upholstery, and perhaps 
a little body work.  But, it gets you from Point A to Point B, so All Was 
Well.  Later, you get a new car.  This new car not only looks better, and 
has that New Car Smell, but also has lots of Neat New Features, like air 
conditioning, automatic transmission, cruise control, AM/FM stereo, sun 
roof, etc.  Luckily, you can take your experience with your old car and 
translate it *directly* to driving the new car - you don't need to relearn 
how to drive.  Playing with the knobs and buttons will teach you how to use 
all the new toys that came with your new car, and you can get by just fine 
without any new documentation.

Translating this into computer terms, for the analogy-impaired:

When you first buy a Mac (say, three years ago or so), you got a system 
with it.  It also came with documentation for that system.  Furthermore, it 
came with a disk called "A Guided Tour of your Macintosh" or some such, 
which taught you the basics of clicking, dragging, double-clicking, etc.  
After working through this disk, you were competant with the basic 
functions of the Mac, and All Was Well.  Then, in May of 1991, System 7 
came out.  It worked much like system 6, but had lots of Neat New Features, 
like aliases, publish/subscribe, etc.  Luckily, you can take your 
experience with System 6 and translate it *directly* to System 7 - you 
don't need to relearn how to use a Macintosh.  Playing with the different 
control panels will teach you how to use all the new toys that are part of 
System 7, and you can get by just fine without any new documentation.

           John Price * * * * price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu
           Where there is no solution, there is no problem.
From: df2tg2n@ties.bell-atl.com (Steve Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Anybody using TechWorks IIsi cache card?
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:08:04 GMT
Reply-To: df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com
Organization: Bell Atlantic - Phila, PA

I just bought a IIsi 64k cache card from TechWorks.  Seemed like a good
price of $155 after seeing it recently announced in MacWeek a few weeks
ago.  Well I installed the card and software and nothing happens.  The
software is a CDEV that never loads when I boot.  I tried everything
thinking I might have a conflict of some sort - no luck!  When I run the
C/P by itself, I get a message to the effect "Cannot execute program
because there is not enough memory".  I have plenty of memory, since I just
booted the machine and can run anything else.  I am on the second card from
them and nothing has changed.  They claim no knowledge of such problems and
said I could talk to the person who wrote the software, except he is on
vacation. I think that they sent me bad software - I just doubt it is the
card.

Any ideas?  I am ready to return it.  Could it possibly be my motherboard?

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From: jphillip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Shadow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: A Terminal(?) Illness in THINK C 4.0
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:51:19 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


	I have recently developed a problem with my THINK C 4.0.  Last time I
used it (April - before summer break) everything was working fine an dandy.
Now, something has gone horribly wrong.  I would like to solve this problem
because it will allow me to work on home and not walk onto campus all the time.

	When I launch THINK C, and the dialog asking for a project comes up, one
of three things will happen.  If I hit "cancel", the program will be fine -
although I can't do anything with out a project open.  If I create a new 
project, I will get the dialog asking for a name - after I enter the name and 
hit "ok" the program quits and the system brings up a dialog telling me that
an error of type one has occurred.  If I try to open one of my old projects,
the program freezes up - sort of.  I can still move the cursor (still as an 
arrow) to my hearts content, but cannot do anything.  None of the menus (still
those of THINK C) will respond and neither will anything on the desktop - 
forcing me to manually restart.

	If someone can up with any suggestions, I would appreciate them.

	If someone has a current phone number for Symantic's TechServ, I
would appreciate that also.  The number in my manual has been dissconnected.

	Thank you much.

-- 
	Peace, Love, and Armagheddon.
		jphillip@sage.cc.purude.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: After Dark 1.00 updater -->2.0v????
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:27:08 GMT

00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

>Perhaps someone here can help me...
>I've got an old version (ok, ok, v 1.00) of After Dark, and I'd LIKE to be able
>to use MAD.  I've downloaded the v2.0v Updater, but it tells me it can't update
>anything before 2.00. 8^(  Is there an updater somewhere on the net available? 
>Or am I going to have to plunk down the $28 for a new copy?

   Get the whole upgrade from Berkeley. Making a 1.x -> 2.0 updater would
be wasteful as it would include EVERYTHING in 2.0 plus the updater code
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:32:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.ewright.715023148
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug28.081746.1@nickel.laurentian.ca> g5000005@nickel.laurentian.ca writes:

>>>to spend even more money to buy accelerated graphics cards. Not to
>>>to do anything sophisticated like fast 32-bit graphics, mind you,
>>>just to run Windows.  Each of these cards cost about $600 by itself.

>	It is appears that your company didn't know what you needed
>	in computer hardware for the application. A $600 graphics card is 
>	starting to sound like a frame-grabber (but maybe not, depending on 
>       what time period we're talking about). 

No, it is not a framegrabber card.  It's an accelerated graphics card
designed especially for Windows.  I'm sorry I can't tell you the name,
manufacturer, etc.  I never saw the board before it was installed and
didn't get any docs with it.

>       But I'm confused about the 
>	reference to running Windows? I have loaded Windows on my '286 (just
>	for fun) and while being slow, ran fine. Again, I wonder if you had
>	the right tool for the job.

Being slow is not fine if you're trying to get work done.  We grumbled
and got by with the old cards for months until one person in our group
left and a senior manager inherited her PC.  The first time he tried
reading email under Windows, it was decided that we needed faster cards.


>I must add that as a long-time PC and VAX user, and a relatively newer 
>user of MAC's, I am bewildered by the paranoia expressed by both PC and MAC 
>users. 

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.
The reason I'm using a PC instead of a Mac at work is simply that the
decision rested with people who bought, and used, the same argument
that PC users are expressing here.  Namely that "Macs are too expensive." 
(Even though we could have purchased Macs to do the same job for less
than we spent on PCs.)  If PC users simply wanted PCs for themselves,
that would be fine, but they don't.  They want everyone in the world
to be *required* to use a PC. (Why else would they even bother reading 
a newsgroup devoted to someone else's computer, let alone post articles
trashing it at every opportunity?)  Unfortunately, there are enough of 
these people in purchasing, MIS, and management positions to make sure 
that a lot of would-be Mac users tow the line.
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Desperately Seeking one of those PB100's...
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:26:39 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.

I know, it's an FAQ by now, but has anyone still got a firm line on
one of the PB100 blow-out deals?  I'm personally after a 2/20 since
disk space isn't an issue and I'd want to take it to 6 or 8 megs. A
friend of mine has a 6/20 which he'll pass onto me if he can find a
4/40, so a line on either of these for the Price Club sorts of prices
would be mucho appreciated. We've had three or four lines come up dry
so far...

Oh: if you're in the same game, don't put too much into the "we're
getting some" stance; two of our contact dealers have backed down on
that already...

Nick.
--
  Nick Rothwell, LFCS, Edinburgh | "Say, how many contemporary dancers are
               nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk |     there in this bar?"
CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance | "Dunno; count the Dr. Martens and
     cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk |     divide by two..."
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:15670 comp.sys.mac.hardware:16158
From: thacker@cc1.unt.edu (Mark D. Thacker x2568)
Subject: Math font for stats/algebra
Summary: I need a mathmatics font for the Mac
Keywords: math, font
Organization: Computing Center, UNT
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:45:36 GMT

Hello,

I need a shareware/freeware mathmatical font for the Macintosh.  It can be 
in PostScript, bitmapped or TrueType formats.  I will be needing some of the 
basic math symbols for statistics, linear algebra etc...

I have tried the font DAYTON as located on Sumex, but when I open the font 
suitcase on a Mac IIci System 7.0.1 w/TuneUp 1.1.1, it is empty.  Installing 
the font in the system results in no additional fonts on the Mac.  Perhaps 
this font is old and therefor does not work under Sys 7.

I will be using this with MS Word 5.0 & a StyleWriter on a Quadra 950.

Thanks for any information!

Mark Thacker

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CC1 Novell LAN Manager      THENET : NTVAXA::MARK
Computing Center            Internet : MARK@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
University of North Texas         or : THACKER@CC1.ACS.UNT.EDU
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Subject: RE: request for HyperXCmd.h and XCmdGlue.c
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:13:04 GMT

Could you be kind enough to post these file contents when you get them?  I
need these as well.  Thanks!


--  
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 Glen Stewart - Internet: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org
From: rhall@next02.cc.umanitoba.ca. (Roger Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: how to over ride the watch cursor?
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:19:08 GMT
Reply-To: rhall@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


   I found that whenever I call an XCMD/XFCN, hyperCard will change the  
cursor to a watch.
   Here are the questions:

      How I can over ride it (for those buildin XCMDs like 'picture')?
      How can I animate the cursor in my XCMD/XFCN (I'm using 'C')?
      Is there a way to get a global variable in my XCMD/XFCN and
         change it?

   email to me if possible.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: steven@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Stergakis)
Subject: printscripts...
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:40:41 GMT

ive just been reading danny goodmans book on hypercard

has anyone out there have a printscripts handler.. it 
should be located in the home stack script, but i havent got one..

can someone send me the script if they know about its refered
to pn page 865 (app D) in Goodmans book...

thanks in advance...
steven.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: perm@csd.uu.se (Per Mildner)
Subject: Re: SuperCard Warning message suppression
Organization: Computing Science Dept.,Uppsala University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:03:04 GMT


Locking the project in the finder can have a dramatic effect on speed
and would also probably help with your problem, I seem to remember
that cantModify has no effect in SC (don't have my SC manuals handy).
Note that several things crashes or do nothing when the project is
locked (e.g. setting window names, hacking menus). Some of the
problems with a locked project can be overcome by not closing windows
where you want some info to stay but instead hide them. What goes for
project above is equally true with standalone versions.

Per Mildner			perm@CSD.UU.SE
Computing Science Dept.		tel: +46 18181049
Uppsala University, Sweden	fax: +46 18521270

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Computing Science Dept.		tel: +46 18181049
Uppsala University, Sweden	fax: +46 18521270
From: gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (# Texas Stalker #)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: SuperCard Warning message suppression
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:04:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Hi,

I have developed a demo in SuperCard, and it was designed to fit on a
HD disk.  Right now, the project is about 1.1 megs and if I run
run-time version from the floppy, I will get a warning message like:
"Warning, SuperCard is out of disk space, changes might not be saved"
or something similar to that.  Is there anyway I can get rid of or
supress this message?  And is there other stuff in the run time version
where I can strip out to make the run-time smaller?

Thanx.

George
From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Help needed with HC report printing
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:03:05 GMT
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services


In article <1278@my.sm.luth.se> (comp.sys.mac.hypercard), jem@sm.luth.se (Jan Erik Mostr|m) writes:
> I need some help with printing reports from HC 2.1
> 
> I have designed a stack at home to which I have created a report.
> 
> I want to info from each card to be printed on a new page but still have
> the possibilty for each field to change height. 
> I'm using DynoPage to make each "page" in reality a half-page.
> (I hope this describtion makes sense, if not please ask !!)
> 
> This works perfectly on my Portable at home (at least in the preview
> window of DynoPage) but when I copy the stack to my Mac at work the info
> from each card gets printed directly after eachother, i.e. no pagebreaks.
> 
> Why ?
> 
> I'm sure that this is a fairly simple question but I can't find out why.
> 

Try using Reports from Nine To Five Software. It will do exactly what
you want, and all within HC.

If you want more information, contact 925 at info@ninetofive.com.

Good Luck.

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1910 Sharon Oaks Lane, Suite 102        |    The only undefeated team 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: SuperCard 1.6 needs much improvements
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:24:26 GMT


My personal wish...fully rotateable, etc. graphics from scripts.
My project ground to a screeching halt when I found it impossible
to rotate a graphic object from a script (display it either up,
or rotated 180 deg.).

Also, the ability to test-run a script from Super Edit!
-- 

David G. Simmons
davids@lanl.gov

If I said it, LANL didn't... 

-- 

David G. Simmons
davids@lanl.gov
From: tron@apple.com (Tantek Celik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: How does 'the ticks' work? (Accuracy?)
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:27:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug23.234732.21292@newsroom.utas.edu.au>,
bulmer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au (Michael R. Bulmer) wrote:
> 
> 
> Does anyone out there know how 'the ticks' are generated in
> HyperCard (any version)? I am trying to use it to measure things
> over about half and hour and have found that it becomes very
> inaccurate in that time.
> 
> It seems that it is implemented in software, rather than using a clock
> directly. From some empirical testing it does seem to be out by a constant
> factor (about 60.14 ticks/sec, rather than 60) but I'd like some theory
> to know how reliable that factor is and what things effect it. (eg it
> varies wildly with other applications running).
> 

I had always thought that 'the ticks' came from the hardware clock.

I have used 'the ticks' to implement a chess clock as a HyperCard stack and
had no such problems.

Hmmm...

> 
> Michael.
> 
> 
> --
> Michael Bulmer                              'I can't believe it...
> Department of Mathematics                    You've actually found a
> University of Tasmania at Hobart             practical use for geometry.' 
> bulmer@hilbert.maths.utas.edu.au                - Bart


tron@apple.com

THE OPINIONS CONTAINED HEREIN ARE THOSE OF MY OWN, NOT OF MY USER OR
SYSTEM.

END OF LINE.
From: sro@media.mit.edu (Shawn O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: First 80 chars?
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
	<1992Aug25.212254.6548@news.uiowa.edu>
	<SRO.92Aug25223903@media-lab.media.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:15:04 GMT

Frank--
  We've been having trouble emailing responses to you.  Here's a response
that should help:


*** EOOH ***
Return-Path: <M14686@mwvm.mitre.org>
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 08:23:41 EDT
From: m14686@mwvm.mitre.org (N. J. Taber)
To: sro%media.mit.edu@mwunix.mitre.org
Subject: Forwarding "Re: First 80 chars?"

 *** -----------
 *** Forwarded note from N. J. Taber, sent 08/26/92 at 16:36:09...
 *** -----------

Posted-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:31:48 EDT
From: NJTaber@mitre.org (N. J. Taber)
To: ffang@newsuiowa.edu (Francis Fang)
Cc: NJTaber@mitre.org, sro@media.mit.edu
Subject: Re: First 80 chars?

>From comp.sys.mac.hypercard:

On Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:22:54 GMT, ffang@newsuiowa.edu (Francis Fang)
writes:

> Hypercard still returns the entire paragraph. Seems like I used to be
> able to say line n of the fld and have it return just the line as it is
> formatted on the screen but not anymore. Maybe some setting on my copy
> of Hypercard 2.1 is messed up.

Your copy's fine - that's how fields work.  But the other way proposed by
sro@media.mit.edu (Shawn O'Donnell) is unnecessarily complicated.
The following code (based on a script in a HyperCard application by Harry
Chesley at Apple) does the same job and may be easier to understand.  The
message in the example is in the local variable "m" and the output (80
characters per line) is being written to card field "message".  Modify
those parameters to fit your situation.

  repeat with i = 1 to the number of lines in m
    get line i of m
    repeat while the number of chars of it > 80
      repeat with j = 80 down to 1
        if char j of it is " " then exit repeat
      end repeat
      if j < 20 then put 80 into j
      put char 1 to j of it & return after cd field "message"
      delete char 1 to j of it
    end repeat
    put it & return after cd field "message"
  end repeat


I hope you find this helpful.

N. J. Taber

Reply to:  NJTaber@MITRE.org


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: spw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Steven P Wilkinson)
Subject: Opening other apps documents from Hypercard (Q)
Summary: How to make Word open documents from within Hypercard
Keywords: open document app
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:18:03 GMT

Hello all,

I am having problems launching applications and opening their
documents from within Hypercard. I can't seem to get the 

    open "document" with "application"

command to work correctly when the application "application" is
already up and running. For example if I code

    open "myletter" with "Microsoft Word"

when Hypercard is the only application loaded then all works as
expected (ie. Word is launched and the Word document called
"myletter" is opened. When I quit Word I am returned to Hypercard.)
So far so good. If, however, Word is already launched when I run
the same hypertalk code then Hypercard goes to the background 
and Word comes to the front as before BUT no Word documents are opened.

Has anyone else discovered this to be the case? Are there any fixes?

Thanks in advance,

Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard