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From: mccla_d@penda.cs.odu.edu (dennis mcclain-furmanski)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: RE: Time Allocation in Natual Environment
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:04:30 GMT
Distribution: sci.psychology
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA

efenz@psych.psy.uq.oz.au says:

> I'm after a self-monitoring or other procedure....

Might I recommend using both objectively measured (by an experimentor, subject
or both) time, and self-reported? I think it may lead to some interesting
observations and conclusions.

My reason; in studying motor response using a desktop metaphor computer system,
I came across the following:

'The result of the $50 million study done at Apple Computers showed that 
people consistently thought they did things faster with a mouse. 
Measurements showed that they actually did things faster with a command line
interface.'

I'm sure you can find more applicable cases of subjective time differences.
I'm only using this one because I'm deep into it. This study pretty much
invalidates the only other published work I could find on the subject, a 
dissertation done in 1985. 

Summarily, consider that self-report is unreliable, and self-report of time
is particularly bad. But the cause of this might be significant.
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Literature Request: Roles in Work-group Meetings
Summary: So many postings...
Keywords: roles, meetings, research
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:21:38 GMT
Organization: gte

In article <lWg+Ap=@engin.umich.edu>, lampert@uri.csmil.umich.edu (Robin Lampert) writes:
> Your help would be appreciated.
> 
> I'm looking for information or references to empirical or 
> observational research on the role or activities that 
> people fulfill in work-group meetings (e.g., recording 
> decisions, avoiding digressions, keeping the agenda).  Do 
> any of you know of work which reports actual observations 
> of meetings? literature about the meeting process?  Any 
> work that also reports measures of the outcome quality 
> would be especially welcome.
> 
> now, I'm far more interested in research results than 
> introspective reports or arm-chair theorizing.
> 
> If I receive any replies, I will post a summary.

Robin, this is a great idea, and I'd be interested in seeing what comes through.

However, is it necessary to post 6 TIMES to the same group? If it doesn't work
the first time, try one more time, and then get out and see what happened...Thanks.

Mindy

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From: aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Want references on this expt.
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:39:39 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Apr10.122202.11563@cs.hw.ac.uk> aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.212103.15617@massey.ac.nz> A.Raman@massey.ac.nz (Anand) writes:
>>A few years ago, I was told by someone of an experiment carried out
>>on rats.  I'm not sure if it is true.  But if it is, I'd like some
>>references to it.
>>
>>The experiment was about a rat/mouse given a choice between electrical
>>stimulation of it's brain's pleasure centre and real food.  The
>>observations apparently indicated that the rat preferred stimulation of
>>it's pleasure centre (via electrodes implanted in its brain) to the
>>point of near death through starvation.
>>
>>Is this true?  

>
>I'm looking in my books for references....
>


Here we are..:

Olds, J. and Millner, P.: ( 1954 )
Positive reinforcement produced by electrical stimulation of
septal areas and other regions of rat brains.
Journal of Comparative and Physiological Psychology  47: 419-27

and

Spies G.: ( 1965 )
Food versus intracranial self stimulation reinforcement in food
deprived rats.
( Same journal )  60:153-57

Good luck !   :-)
Hans
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: sik@cs.uow.edu.au (The 24hr man)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Human sexuality
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:01:26 GMT
Organization: SikSW, Dept-Comp-Sci, Uni-Of-W'gong, NSW 2500, AUSTRALIA
Sik-Disclamer: I don't know what I'm talking about!

---> REPOST - HEADER ERROR IN PREVIOUS POST, IT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT SHOW UP <---

In article <92099.233602QAA@psuvm.psu.edu>
    QAA@psuvm.psu.edu (Tim Bieling) wrote:

>In article <1992Apr9.023852.24288@cs.uow.edu.au>, g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au (The
>Jester) says:
>>[...]
>>stein has this right, which may or may not be influenced by others attitudes
>>towards him. stein does not dislike jake because of his sexuality.
>>stein likes lisa 'coz stein likes all girls/woman/female/XX (circle one:-)

>Golly, all het. males will chase anything female (summary of the
>above paragraph).  Not true??  Gasp - same goes for gay males.

Well, Stein will not chase lesbian females (if he knows that they are),
but he is willing to be their friend (if they want his friendship).
Stein will not chase males (independent on their sexuality) but is
prepared to be their friend (if they want his friendship).

>Clue lesson #1.  (your tuition bill will be mailed shortly)
>
>Jake is right, only someone with neuron interconnection problems would
>fail to see this.  (Then again, anyone with NIP (above mentioned
>Neuron Connection Problems will have problems understanding this
>post)
>
>-Tim

Stein - sik@cs.uow.edu.au
'Samme hvor du g}r, der er du' - Buckaroo Banzai
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: andrew@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (Andrew Walduck)
Newsgroups: alt.sex,sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Human sexuality
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:00:50 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (Andrew Walduck)
Followup-To: alt.sex

In article <1992Apr6.142136.28083@cs.uow.edu.au>, g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au
(The Jester) writes:
|> 
|> OK I've has a request for a poll so here we go.
|> 
|> Please rank the following pizza toppings with a rating from 
|> 0 (Most masculine) to 9 (Most feminine)
|>
|> <nice poll deleted..>
  
 Japanese Seafood (squid, octopus, shrimp, with seaweed)
 
 M									F
 +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
 0   1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9



Andrew Walduck -- OMRON Japan -- andrew@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp 
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Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: mike@psych.ualberta.ca (Mike Dawson)
Subject: Re: The Golden Section & Perception
Organization: Psychology, University of Alberta, Edmonton
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:27:14 GMT

aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy) writes:
>This seems like some kind of quasi sience.
>neural functions to maths and computer science ( eg "neural network" and
>"artificial intelligence" ), probably in order to enhance funding prospects
>by a "mystic" and "futuristic" sci-fi like terminology.

For someone with degrees in both mathematics and psychology, you adopt
what seems to me to be an extremely uninformed view.  An examination
of psychology over the last 30 years indicates that most current
innovations and insights in this discipline have been almost entirely
due to incorporating metaphors from maths and sciences.  The reason
for this is that it is quite plausible to view important components
of mentality as information processing, and information processing
lends itself quite nicely -- and constructively -- to mathematical
analyses and the development of computer simulation models.  The
"fondness" you note is largely due to finding approaches which appear
to give results.

As to the notion that such researchers (comprising a large percentage
of experimental psychologists, given that cognitivism is the dominant
school of thought in psychology these days) not being scientists,
perhaps you should examine recent issues of journals like the four
JEPs, Cognitive Science, Cognitive Psychology, Cognition, Memory &
Cognition, Perception & Psychophysics, Neural Computation, Connection
Science, Neural Networks -- to name a few -- before making such a
bold claim.  After noting how many articles in these journals adopt
the perspective you criticise, maybe you should reflect on their
scientific merit and on what they are contributing.

Gallileo argued that "the Book of Nature is written in the language
of mathematics".  I, for one, firmly believe that mathematical and
computational analyses have contributed a great deal -- and will
continue to contribute -- to psychology.  With degrees in both
mathematics and psychology, perhaps you could tell us about the
weaknesses you perceive in such beliefs.

Before you do, though, it might be wise to get acquainted with
what is going on in scientific psychology.
--
Michael R.W. Dawson                       email: mike@psych.ualberta.ca
Biological Computation Project, Department of Psychology
University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB CANADA T6G 2E9
Tel:  +1 403 492 5175   Fax: +1 403 492 1768
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Unpleasantness re: inner child discussion
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:15:49 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

lady@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Lee Lady) writes:
>The issue here, as far as I'm concerned, is not whether astrology or
>phrenology are good.  But I find it amusing that those who claim to be
>so ultra-scientific so often butress their arguments with examples for which
>they have little if no hard evidence.

Oh, geez, where to start?  I don't claim to be ultra-scientific, merely
that I have found that the scientific method is good at weeding out
unsupported explanations for events.  I'm wondering if Lee Lady is
serious about this, but I'll proceed as if he or she is.

Articles about phrenology haven't been too numerous lately so it would be a
little hard to produce a study for you.  Gall was an anatomist who believed
that the brain was composed of 37 different organs each of which was
associated with a particular trait.  Today, based on organic damage and
its resulting loss of function, we feel fairly confident in concluding that
his claims were offbase.  However, it should be noted that Gall's phrenology
theory had testable claims, and these claims were shown to be wrong.  This
of course is not so clear with "therapies" and the like, nor with astrology.

Astrology has been studied.  However, it is pretty difficult to get an
astrologer to submit to a scientific test.  By that I mean that science
requires testability.  If you make a claim, it must be testable and it
must be possible to find counterevidence.  Claiming that " you will be
happy" or some such astrological prediction really isn't much of a
prediction.  When astrologers make testable and refutable claims,
they are not supported by the facts.  Sorry that I am on such weak
empirical grounds here, but I find many more important topics to
study - claims which really might be true or might be false.  Finding
out that astrology isn't really accurate wouldn't strike me as
justification for spending the time, any more than studying alchemy.
(Darn - no data on alchemy either.  Sorry, Lee!)

One last point, here.  This is the first of about 70 posts by you in
which you have not broadcast your love and devotion for neurolinguistic
programming.  You may be a little sensitive to scientific scrutiny and
that was reflected in your bitter and snarling post about "ultrascientific"
people.  I hope you understand the distinction between something being good for
one person and finding out if it would be good for others, why it is good,
the bounds of its effectiveness, and so on.  I'm just tickled plaid that
NLM is good for you.  But when you make the sort of grand claims that you
have about anything like NLM to a newsgroup of psychologists, you shouldn't
be surprised or put off by their attempts to verify your claims.
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From: g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au (The Jester)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Human sexuality
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:05:10 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

sik@cs.uow.edu.au (The 24hr man) writes:

>In article <1992Apr6.114249.2373@mac.cc.macalstr.edu>
>    amitchell@mac.cc.macalstr.edu wrote:

>[...] a cheese pizza with green peppers, tomatoes and chicken (YUM!).
>One question: what does this have to do with ANYTHING?
>research (I think?-).

>So far I beleive that mushroom does not give anything away about your
>sexuality.  However, I don't like green peppers - but like XXs.
>Allison like green peppers and I think she said in another article
>that she liked XYs.  Maybe we have a clue here ???

Ah yes, but, I like green peppers and like no-external-genetalians 
(this is my best approximation at the moment since some XX's look like XY's and
have changed their inny to an outy, but that's another thread). Maybe we
can get a correlation with some more input. (3 is hardly a good sample)
-- 
\ /  /    / /  /\   | I trapped all alone in the gas station of love,
 \\/ \/\ /\ \/ \/_  | and I have to use the self-service pumps.
 / \/  /   \ \/ \   | 	--"Weird Al" Yankovic.
g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: cp77043@csunix.csie.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Kleptomaniac seeking help
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Chiao Tung U., Taiwan, ROC
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:46:36 GMT

Hi, a very close friend of mine came to me and confessed about his
uncontrollable impulse of kelptomania.  He said he takes books most of the
time, but now it seems to become more frequent and he feels like taking
other little stuff as well and is afraid of getting caught eventually.  I
heard about this but know too little to help him.  I don't consider him
criminal but apparently he needs help.  Are there any psychologists there
who are familiar with this subject and are willing to provide any
information, like the CAUSE, and possible way to "CURE" such thing?  Please
contact me at the above account directly.  Thank you.            

Kevin
From: ng548@dsom_op.pnl.gov (KM ALWAN)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Alice Miller
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:23:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: oracle.1992Apr16.222356.4330
Organization: Battelle Pacific Northwest Labs, Richland, WA

In article <1992Mar25.010450.20473@adobe.com> usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS) writes:
>I think it's sad that so many people want abuse victims to "take
>responsibility" for their own lives, but see no need for parents
>to take responsibility for suffering inflicted on their children.
>The standard disclaimer is an old, old song. "We did the best we 
>could," is how it usually goes. Or, "We did it for their own good."
>Nuff said.

I think there is a distinction to be made here.
If you constantly say the parents are responsible
for the way the child's life turns out, then what
happens if the child abuses their own children.
Is it still the original parent's fault that
their grandchildren are being abused.  If 
you use this logic, you end up blaming it
on "adam and eve."  Maybe in a round about
way, that is accurate, but it does no one
any good.  

I think the more appropriate observation
is that, yes, parents are to blame for how they
abuse/neglect their children.  And yes they are
to blame for how that affects the child.
However, the adult abused as a child is
responsible for how they deal with the abuse
and how they inflict their own pain on someone else
and how they tackle their daily life.


Karla
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: Unpleasantness re: inner child discussion
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:28:43 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <1992Apr9.013224.19962@news.Hawaii.Edu>
lady@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Lee Lady) writes:


>Well I would be damned pleased to see some clinical psychologists do some
>rigorous studies to test the claims that NLP makes.  (There are in fact a
>few such studies.  Many too few, in my opinion.)  I don't in the least
>blame academics for being highly skeptical of these claims.  What does
>bother me though is the INDIFFERENCE by the clinical establishment to
>such claims.

>NLP claims, for instance, that a simple phobia can be cured in one
>session.  It claims that the same technique will neutralize traumatic
>memories just as quickly, so that PTSD (post-traumatic stress syndrome)
>becomes an easily treatable problem.  It claims that certain other anxiety
>disorders, such as compulsions and performance anxiety, can also be
>cured in one or two sessions.  There are a very large number of NLP
>I'm not a psychologist.  But I am a scientist who has spent twenty years
>doing publishable research (in mathematics) at universities.  I do think
>I have a little sense of what sorts of things are of scientific interest
>and worthy of investigation.  And it doesn't require any commitment or
>investing any enormous amount of time and energy to look through a few
>books or watch a few videotapes.
 Your post makes a lot of sense to me.  NLP makes some very testable
predictions.  You don't need a clinical psychologist to test these ideas.
You are a scientist.  You know many practitioners, apparently.  Why not
design and conduct the study for yourself.
You mentioned a few studies.  What are they, where were they published,
and how might others get copies?  The whole area of determining if a
therapy "works" is difficult for ethical and logistical reasons, but
I'm open to see if a given treatment can "cure" a phobia in one trial.
If true, it would be a major breakthough of course, and that's why
you may run into some flak from "academic types".  That and your
tendency to say things like "You're stepping on your lines" and
"You ought to watch a stand up comedian" to a therapist who, by your
admission was helpful, but just not to your NLP predilections.
From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVan PRItchard)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: Re: weather-behavior correlations?
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:47:28 GMT
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology

zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla) writes:

>In article <16063@bunny.GTE.COM> dir2@gte.com (Dean Radin) writes:
>>Can someone please point me towards some references on correlations
>>between weather and human behavior, both psychological and physical, 
>>including sports and other types of skilled performance?  

>Well, there is one study that's pretty well-known in the cognitive literature
>of the affect of current weather conditions on ratings of current life
>satisfaction, and I believe maybe even happiness.  Ah, here it is...

>Schwarz and Clore (1983), _JPSP_, 45 (3), 513-523.

>Roughly, it was found that people rated their personal well-being higher
>on sunny days than on overcast days.  However, when they were cued to these
>weather conditions by the interviewer, the effects vanished.  It was interpre-
>ted as meaning that subjects were in a positive or negative affective state,
>possibly induced by the weather, and in the absence of an obvious attribution
>(such as the weather) which would explain why they might feel the way they
>did, they would attribute their mood to their current-state of well-being and
>, hence, rate their current-well being accordingly.

>One could speculate endlessly on how this could map onto performance....

Note that the idea behind the explanation is the 'mood-as-information'
(MAI) hypothesis.  MAI states that when faced with a difficult
question regarding how you feel about something, you will use your
current affective state as the basis for answering that question, IF
your current affective state has not been discounted (big IF).  So, in
the weather case, people are asked how satisfied with their lives, and
if the day is pleasant (presumably inducing a positive mood), one
tend to be more satisfied with one's life, than if the day is
unpleasant.  However, if you are asked how the weather is, and then
asked to rate your life satisfaction, there is no effect of the
pleasantness of the day on your life satisfaction judgment.  

MAI can account for a large number of results from affect and judgment
studies, and not simply one's involving the weather.  Another example,
also from Schwarz and Clore (I think):  Germans surveyed after Germany
had won a World Cup game rated life satisfaction as higher than after
Germany losing a World Cup game.  Furthermore, Germany's winning or
losing had no effect on these people's judgments of their income, for
which they have a reference point, and obviously one's current affect
does not change that.  


=================== 
Evan Pritchard ---- Number 1, 3 or 4, depending on the hockey pool  

epritcha@psych.uiuc.edu  [alternatively  EVAN33@uiucvmd.bitnet ]
From: segordon@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology
Subject: looking for books on MPD
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:19:01 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.



hi,

	I am looking for books on MPD and have not been successful finding
any in bookstores.  Can anyone recommend some titles to me so that I may
order them?

						thanks in advance,
							
						   Susan Gordon
						   segordon@amherst.edu
							
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From: amitchell@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: sci.psychology,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Human sexuality
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:46:52 GMT
Organization: Macalester College

In article <P.ifi.17@mac2325.uow.edu.au>, sik@cs.uow.edu.au (Stein I. Krav) writes:
> ??? Whats up with you women/men out there? Sleeping? Not paying attention? ???
> 
> Stein, you have been a naughty boy again... You have to learn formal writing...
> 
> kids could be offending... Should have used 'children' instead...
> 
> Well, too late now I guess...

Not paying attention to YOU all the time.....I have better things to do, like
my homework and my job....
Allison
amitchell@macalstr.edu
amitchel@math.macalstr.edu

"Where's the damn pig?" -Jamie
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From: g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au (The Jester)
Newsgroups: sci.psychology,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.sex
Subject: Re: Human sexuality
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:38:52 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:




>some of us (me in particular) abused you because you make such stupid
>statements, worthy of homophobes -- here's a wonderful example.  you
>base your support of homosexuals on your own convenience.  if they're
>nice to you, you support them.  if they "abuse" you, you don't support
>them.
So you say that support should be given to people even if they don't
want your support or even hostile about it?

>DUH!  sexuality, and in particular, sexual freeedom, has nothing
>to do with the issue of your support and vice versa.  is this clear?
I don't think anyone would argue this point with you.

>see stein.
>see jake.
>see lisa.
>jake is gay.
>lisa is a lesbian.
>stein says something stupid.
(In your opinion)

>jake is mean to stein.
>stein gets mad.
>(1) stein doesn't support homosexuals.
stein is wary of openly voicing his support since jake is hostile rather
than critical.
>lisa is nice to stein.
>stein is happy.
>(2) stein supports homosexuals.
stein reacts in a positive manner to positive feedback.
>(1) should read "stein doesn't like jake" and (2) should read "stein
>likes lisa."
stein has this right, which may or may not be influenced by others attitudes
towards him. stein does not dislike jake because of his sexuality.
stein likes lisa 'coz stein likes all girls/woman/female/XX (circle one:-)
>-- 
>Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
>Queer Without A Cause!
>"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
>right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
-- 
\ /  /    / /  /\   | I trapped all alone in the gas station of love,
 \\/ \/\ /\ \/ \/_  | and I have to use the self-service pumps.
 / \/  /   \ \/ \   | 	--"Weird Al" Yankovic.
g8801935@cs.uow.edu.au
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