HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kevins@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Kevin B. Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: RePosted (with more info) "ispell doesn't recognize..."
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:20:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6753
Organization: Portland State University, Portland, OR

>In article <6713@pdxgate.UUCP> kevins@eecs.cs.pdx.edu (Kevin B.
>Stanton) writes:
(^^^ That's me ^^^)
>
>> 	recognized rider's analog encoders digitize localizing minimize
>> 	traveled localization minimized formalized modeled labeling
>> 	behaviors characterize behaviors
>>
>> If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear from them.
>

Let me expand on what happens when I run ispell on the previous list of
words.  For example, when it gets to recognized, it gives the following
'suggestions':

------------------------------
    recognized              File: ispell.doesnt.recognize

 0: ecognized
 1: recognize
 2: recognizes
 3: recognize d
 4: recognize-d
 5: re cognized
 6: re-cognized
------------------------------

It does similar things for most of the other words:  It gives the same
word back to me but with spaces or hyphens:

------------------------------
    minimize              File: ispell.doesnt.recognize

 0: minim ize
 1: minim-ize
 2: mini mize
 3: mini-mize
------------------------------

I hope this will shed some more light on the subject...


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From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: using foreign languages in troff
Keywords: troff, multibyte character sets, font format
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:45:54 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <C19wp9.3Fz@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umwan010@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nga T A Wan) writes:
>
>	I want to use oriental languages in troff but I don't want to reinvent 
>the wheel.  Rather, I want to ask if there is any way I can control standard
>C/A/T troff or device independent troff to use my character set, specifically mycharacter set is going to be multibyte.  I guess it requires at least some 
>knowledge in troff font format.

I presume that you're thinking of handling a 16 bit input characters with
troff.  It's not possible with any existing version of troff because
they're all 8-bit (indeed, most are 7 bit).  That being said, you can
introduce a lot more if you're willing to use \(xx sequences.

C/A/T troff can only be made to extend its character set thru the use
of psroff 3.0 (Transcript won't).  However, it's not likely to be reliable
enough for any serious use.

Troff doesn't know about fonts directly.  It has font metrics files,
and the troff-to-whatever-printer filter *may* have to deal directly
with fonts rather than simply asking the printer for them.

The width table format is relatively simple.  Consult the width tables
that come with your troff.  Though, if you have C/A/T troff, you'll
need psroff3.0's width table handling.
-- 
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Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
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From: OSG0255@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK (JOSEPH.MURPHY)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Ventura -> Deskjet Help!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 05:45:29 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Date sent:  28-JAN-1993 11:10:33 

Can anyone point me to a source (FTP or whatever) for
a printer driver to print Ventura (3.0) files to a
HP Deskjet 500?  Failing that perhaps a soft emulator
to fool Ventura that its printing to something else.
(I've heard of an EPS emulator that might work)

Many thanks
Joe

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From: lizzie@ecst.csuchico.edu (Lizzie Borden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop
Subject: Sharing EPS files Dos to Mac?
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:03:46 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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I could really use some help.  I am currently involved in a project
that necessitates being able to transfer Postcript files from my 486
to Mac.  How can I go about doing this and finding a conversion program
to do it?
Please email me answers.
Thank you so much.
Lizzie
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Recommendation, please
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:47:05 GMT

My wife is a graphic designer who is just now gearing up to do serious
work after taking a few years off to take care of young children.

What software should she get for page layout and typesetting?
Aldus Pagemaker?  Ventura?  Something else?

(She's tried to do some things with Word Perfect, which is woefully
inadequate.  If WP performed as advertised, it would be OK, but every
time either of us tries to do anything out of the ordinary, we find more
bugs in it.)

Comments/recommendations/free-for-alls welcome.
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From: schonert@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Juanita Schonert)
Subject: Ventura 4.1 for Windows for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:26:17 GMT


Ventura 4.1 for Windows
Unregistered
Full manuals and disks

$250 OBO (shipping included)


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From: an6066@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Credit Card EPS files needed
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: comp.text.desktop
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:11:43 GMT

Anyone know where I can get EPS file (or good TIFFs I suppose will work) of
major credit card logos, such as Visa, MC, Discover, Amex, and Diner's Club? 
Thanks tons!

Joe

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From: fyl@ssc.com (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Re: Possible New Ventura Product
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:39:50 GMT
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Jack Love (jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan19.102541.2481@vixvax.mgi.com> eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth) writes:
: >
: >Have any of you heard about this or have any related comments?
: 
: This accords with what I have heard. A while ago I did some posting
: here about the quality of version 4.1, and I was wondering how
: you feel about it.

It seems to work.  I hate the new "look" but fortunately figured out
how to get rid of the new buttons.  Personally I wish Ventura had fixed
the bugs in version 2.0 that ran with GEM rather than keep changing the
user interface, adding new features and new bugs.

I make these comments as a person who doesn't want to even run MS-DOS and
has no real use for Microsoft Windows.  I would prefer UNIX-based
products.  The only stuff I run under MS-DOS are Ventura, Corel, HP
Scanner software and, as needed, Elvis (a vi clone).  I would be happy to
move this stuff to a UNIX platform (PC-based or Sun) if the right tool
existed.

That said, I see Ventura as the right tool (and, based on my
understanding, FrameMaker isn't). What I really like about Ventura is the
fact that I can keep the pieces of a document in their original form
(ASCII text, MS-Word, etc).  This is less important for some projects
(SSC's catalog, for example, is all ASCII and a non-problem) but for a
newsletter that I work on input comes from various people and the ability
to let them continue to edit with their favorite editor is very
important.

: On the other hand, I am *very* concerned that the publicity
: on Ventura is so bad that few new users are likely to begin 
: with it. Ventura's overall market share, as reported in the trade
: press, has been dramatically shrinking. So I continue to be 
: alarmed that I face becoming part of the orphaned product 
: syndrome. In other words, should I re-energize to convert
: now, or be forced into it later?

I am currently involved with a group that is putting together a magazine.
This will probably be the thing that will force a new shopping trip.
About a year ago Ventura claimed that version 5 would run on Suns.
Unless there is something definite pointing this way in the next few
months I don't see Ventura as a reasonable answer anymore.
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From: tony2@prefect.cc.bellcore.com (gozdz,antoni s)
Subject: anybody using dditk, a ditroff previewer for Tek 41xx terminals?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 00:51:07 GMT

Well, the subject line says all. 

I've downloaded ditk.tar-z from simtel-20, but can't
compile it. Does anybody have any experience (good or
bad) with this program? Is it worth the trouble to try
to get it running?

Tony Gozdz
tony2@cc.bellcore.com
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From: umwan010@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nga T A Wan)
Subject: using foreign languages in troff
Followup-To: comp.text
Keywords: troff, multibyte character sets, font format
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:53:32 GMT

	I want to use oriental languages in troff but I don't want to reinvent 
the wheel.  Rather, I want to ask if there is any way I can control standard
C/A/T troff or device independent troff to use my character set, specifically mycharacter set is going to be multibyte.  I guess it requires at least some 
knowledge in troff font format.
	Any ideas?  Thank you.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: siqvel@hsr.no (Ola Ketil Siqveland)
Subject: Special characters do not work with helvetica font
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:17:11 GMT

For example the following statement does not work with Helvetica style:
\"{u}. It will produce a normal u instead of expected character.
We are using the virtual fonts from the distribution of the dvips setup.

Regards, O.K. Siqveland

Rogaland University Center
Stavanger
Norway
From: Peter Schmitt <A8131DAL%AWIUNI11.BITNET@SHSU.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Two questions
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:33:23 MEZ
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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On Thu, 21 Jan 93 11:31:58 EST you said:
>I have two questions.  The first is answered regularly on this net, but
>I never needed it before, so I haven't kept the solutions.  I don't
>think I've seen the second answered and, while I think I can do it, I am
>kind of pressed right now and don't want to reinvent wheels.  First, how
>to redefine \raggedright so that hyphenation is allowed and even
>encouraged?  This is for very narrow columns.  Second, how to output
>formatted numbers, so that with input either the actual number 1000 or
>a counter containing that number, the output will be 1,000.  The numbers
>I have are all four or five digits, but there is no reason it shouldn't
>be perfectly general.
>
>Michael Barr
(1) I do not remember the recommended settings, but the trick is to
define \rightskip 0pt plus30pt
for some suitable dimension (and not use fil)
(2) I habe not tested it, but try the following:
\newcount\a \newcount\b
\def\fnumber#1{\a=#1 \b=\a
     \divide\a by 1000 \the\a,\multiply\a by 1000 \advance\b by -\a \the\b}
\fnumber {12345}

Obviously this should be refined for 7-digit numbers, and for numbers under
1000 (\ifnum\a<1000) to avoid a leading zero

Peter


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From: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Which is better, OzTeX or Textures?
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:11:45
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In-reply-to: dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu's message of 27 Jan 93 00:23:54 PST

In article <1993Jan27.002354.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu> dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:

   It might be faster now, can't say. My guess is that the bulk of
   the processing time was dealing with ATMs rasterization. An extra
   couple of meg or even just changing the defaults in ATM can
   dramatically change the processing for quickdraw
   devices/previewing.

Correct. Be sure to set the font cache in ATM high enough. The default
of 96k is rather low. Without this redrawing of the preview window
takes way too much time.

--
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From: christie@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Chris Tham)
Subject: Metafont to scalable outline font formats
Organization: Barbie Doll Fashion Consultancy
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:39:51 GMT

Just a thought, but has anyone considered writing a program that translates
METAFONT fonts into Adobe Type [13], HP PCL5 scalable font format or
Apple/Microsoft Truetype font formats?

Just think of the possibilities: for example by converting METAFONT to PCL5
we can have TeX documents that take advantage of Resolution Enhancement!
Not to mention being able to incorporate TeX fonts in Windows word
processors, etc.

christie
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From: als@kowari.cpsg.com.au (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: HyperTeX
Organization: Computer Power Software Group Pty Ltd
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:03:45 GMT

bkph@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn) writes:
>In article <ALIEN.93Jan18172626@vulcan.essex.ac.uk> alien@essex.ac.uk ("Adrian F Clark") writes:
>   Maybe someone could post definitions for the \specials involved, so
>   that we can consider extending existing previewers in a compatible
>   way.


>OK, here is a brief summary of some of the relevant \special's supported
>by DVIWindo - along with some hype about `electronic publishing' :-*

>(*) Hyper-text buttons are set up using:

>\special{button: <width> <height> <mark> [<file>]}

>This creates a sensitive area of specified width and height, with the
>lower left corner at TeX's current point.  The semantics of this is
>that if the user clicks the left mouse button in the hypertext button 
>area, viewing is transferred to the corresponding labelled mark 
>(possibily in another DVI file).  



I have my own hypertext-ish dvi browser.  Its specials are:


\special{hyper button {ht} {dp} {wd} {local <tag>}}

	This places a hyper button on the page with the given box dimensions.

	The <tag> is expected to be the page number within the current 
	document.  The number may be in roman or decimal.

	The action of the button is to jump to the given page number.

\special{hyper button {ht} {dp} {wd} {jump <tag>}}

	The <tag> is expected to be a document name followed by the tag string
	with white space between them.  The action of the button is to jump
	to the given document at the page that contains the given tag.

========

The parameters are designed to be easy to generate from TeX macros.  The
box dimensions come directly from \wd etc.  I think it is important to have
the \dp parameter to cover the descenders in a label.  The {} are optional
braces around a number as for me this makes it easier to write the macros.

The browser draws a thin box around the buttons.

The document, tag string pair is mapped through a database to a dvi file path
and page number.  Hyper jumps can only be to page boundaries in my system.
The database is generated from the output of auxillary files produced
while processing the documents.

In the future the document, tag string pair could be replaced by a 
HyTime-like idref.

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From: "Brendan S. Gillon" <CXBG@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Bigtimes
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:13:38 EST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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I am forwarding a message that was sent to me in the hopes that
someone out there can answer the question that I can't answer.

Richard Hayes                                      cxev@musica.mcgill.ca
Religious Studies           McGill University           Montreal, Quebec
--------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------
I am trying to find a mathematical symbol which does not appear
in the latex repertoire. The symbol used for the cartesian product
is called times and is the x we are familiar with from arithmetic.
I want the large version of that for generalized cartesian product.
Do you know of someone who can help me out?

Brendan S. Gillon                    Department of Linguistics
                                     1001 Sherbrooke Street West
Tel:   514 398 4868                  McGill University
Fax:   514 398 7088                  Montreal, Quebec
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From: dls@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Louis Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Anyone make a roadmap while they were installing TeX et al?
Summary: almost got it...
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:56:46 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


	I do have TeX and dvi2ps, others compiled, but it was a frustrating
experience.  The README's "sort of" point at each other, you end up making
directories that the Makefiles don't, and so on.

	So, next chance, I'm going to rip it up and install everything
from scratch...  I should note that compiling X11R3, R4, and R5 was
quite a bit easier, and I've handled quite a number of other non-trivial
installations.

	Has anyone made a file of notes of problems they encountered when
installing TeX?  May I have you email it to me?

	There's some sort of secret "I made it through TeX installation"
society, right? :-)

					Daniel
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From: somesh@watson.ibm.com ()
Subject: Prevent paragraph from breaking up between pages
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:49:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: somesh@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM, T. J. Watson Research Center

I need to prevent a paragraph breaking up between two pages. 
Is there any way that this can be done ?

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Yorktown Heights, NY 10598               vnet    : somesh at yktvmh

#include <std_disclaimer.h>
The views represented here are mine and not those of my employer.
From: Eric Scharff <eds2@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Tex for DOS question
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:07:15 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
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In article <ASR.93Jan24161850@insect.cis.ufl.edu> Allen S. Rout,
asr@insect.cis.ufl.edu writes:
>	2) What is the minimum set of files I would need to take, say dvidot,
>to a remote site, pop in my disk, and get my output from it?  ( that is,
>without making a full installation of EmTeX there ?

I'm not an expert on the ``absolutely necessary'' pk files, but if you're
using a PostScript printer, the easiest thing to do would be to run dvips
on your DOS box.  That way, the only file you would have to bring would
be the PostScript file outputted by dvips.

-Eric Scharff
 eds2@cornell.edu
From: rolfl@ulrik.uio.no (Rolf Lindgren)
Subject: Re: Which is better, OzTeX or Textures?
Organization: Det samfunnsvitenskapelige fakultet, Universitetet i Oslo, Norge
	<1993Jan26.015518.12345@maths.tcd.ie>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:27:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.015518.12345@maths.tcd.ie> tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) writes:
>   My impression is that Macky people prefer TeXtures,
>   while Unix people are happier with OzTeX,
>   where they feel they have more control.
>
>   Incidentally, have you used both?
>   Very few people have, in my experience.
>   (I used TeXtures 3 or 4 years ago,
>   and was impressed,
>   but also annoyed that I could not use fonts
>   from elsewhere.
>   Has that changed?)
>
>

I've used both.

I prefer Textures because

	Its memory model is such that you don't need to reconfigure it for
	huge documents the way you have to with OzTeX; our UNIX BigTeX
	chokes on the PSTricks (by tvz@princeton.edu) while Textures very
	arrogantly has no problems with it 

	It comes with PostScript version of the TeX fonts, so you don't
	need to keep bitmap fonts at various sizes

	It's a drawback that there's no simple way to convert bitmap (pk) fonts
	to Textures fonts. But I don't consider it a big drawback.

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