HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ngopalas@ho02.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Vedas are NOT shit ( was Re: Animal Sacrifice in Temples
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:24:58 GMT

In article <Meg=GYi00awUE2mVBb@andrew.cmu.edu>, Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> Nobody need more Vedas in Indian.
|> 
|> Only more common sense is needed. Unless you worship BJP.
|> 
|> suresh


I am not a fan of BJP and yet I think that the Vedas have a lot to offer
Indian civilization. Unless you are willing to deny the existence and helpful-
ness of Agastya. The Vedas, Upanishads and the Geetha all follow the same
trend. They are an integral part of Indian culture and the millions of temples
in India are testimony to that all across the country. Unless you prefer the
tribal gods and goddesses in each village are the entities to be worshipped.
If you believe in the Trimurthi of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, then you must
disown them and change your name to preserve your "common sense". 

Nath.

PS I am a vegetarian, but for a non-vegetarian it should hardly matter whether
the animal is killed in a sacrifice or a butcher shop. In my opinion, as long as
plant food will satisfy hunger, animals should not be killed for food at all.

-- 

ZZtop, Pink F, LedZep, Queen are wimps!!	e-mail: ngopalas@buster.eng.ua.edu
Gimme Guns n Roses anyday!
/Earth is 98 % full...  please delete anyone you can.
Disclaimer:  Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sdeepak@hubcap.clemson.edu (shankar deepak)
Subject: Re: kamban-Ramaayanam
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:32:46 GMT

Hi guys
	I spoke to a travel agent in Colorado by the name of Elliots
Travel. He has offered me  a good deal on tickets to India. I want to know whether any of you have any experiences dealing with. I would be
grateful if you could provide me any info on his reliability.

Thanx
Deepak
e-mail:sdeepak@eng.clemson.edu
	sdeepak@hubcap.clemson.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT)
Subject: Re: Tastelessness or sheer hypocrisy
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:19:34 GMT

-Message-Text-Follows-

In article <8eessGi00WBL42anY=@andrew.cmu.edu>, rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes...
>I thought McCarthysm is exactly what's been practiced now!
> 
>Remember: what goes around always comes around. All of you can learn a
>bit from the Jewish history!
> 

>Suresh


Please explain this 'threat'

RT
From: paranand@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (murahi paranandi)
Subject: Re: Telugu and Tamil
Note:   My intent is not to affend anyone out there.  I am just trying to
	share a joke from a popular telugu movie.. 
Keywords: Telugu and Tamil
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:14:42 GMT

In "Maro Charitra", Sarita's (telugu) mother and Kamal Hasan's father have
a fight over some smell of cooking non-vegitarian food or something like that.
Sarita's mother goes:
	"Veellanthenandi, Aravvallu... Aravam Aravam Antune Arustuntaru!"  

If I remember it right, dialogues were by Ganesh Patro.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: ssr@siberia.cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Reservations....
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:45:54 GMT
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Originator: ssr@reddog

It is due to the fact that the reservation system in Tamilnadu is
fucked up - that it creates a furore whenever it is discussed.


-- 
Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thaya@Lise.Unit.NO (Thayanantha Balasundaram)
Subject: TV 2
Followup-To: m
Keywords: new chanel,i don't like bergenstavanger 
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 18:43:34 GMT

20:00 Today
Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:2192 soc.culture.indian:31173 soc.culture.indian.telugu:20
From: pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Telugu and Tamil
Keywords: Telugu and Tamil
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:06:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: rice.BuLnAs.AHM
Organization: Rice University


In article <kat.716476540@ro>, kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:


|>    You can tell whatever you want. But do not generalize and if somebody
|> like the guy who sends mail like the QWERTY keyboard  can keep
|> his knowledge to himself everything is fine.


I think I couldn't make what I wanted to say clear and ended up giving an
impression of ridiculing the Tamil language, which wasn't my aim at all.

If one finds a language odd due to a heavy usage of phonetic patterns one is
not used to, there is nothing wrong about it and there is no need for anyone to
be offended by it.

However, if one starts ridiculing or making derisive comments based on that,
it's very unfortunate. It just reflects the maturity of that particular person.

I wasn't supporting any comments on QWERTY keyboard etc. Nor was I trying to
ridicule the phonetic patterns in Tamil. Far from that. Each language has its
own sound patterns and and some patterns may sound unusual to others. There is
nothing bad about it.

If any Tamils (for that matter, anyone) found my comments towards the end of my
article insensitive and offensive, I sincerely apologize.


|> Cool,
|> Kathiravan.


Peace
PVR
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: spatri@iastate.edu (Srinivas Patri)
Subject: norwegian institute of technology
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:24:23 GMT

What the hell are you? A WIT from NIT (NITWIT)?
 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: Quotas on s.c.t postings ??
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:58:45 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Sep10.011824.29867@infonode.ingr.com> kumar@infonode.ingr.com (Mahesh Kumar) writes:
>
>Yo RT, Balaji, raman et. al.
>
>You folks are far exceeding your 4% quota of postings :-):-)-:):-).
>
>Mahesh 
>
>Std. Disclaimer applies.

HE HE HE .....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT)
Subject: Re: A Ghost Poem......
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:17:46 GMT

-Message-Text-Follows-

In article <geftcLG00WBK05NpB6@andrew.cmu.edu>, Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>Unfortunately this did happen, in a massive scale.
> 
>There's picture I remember seeing in one of India Today's issue that
>showed bunch of emaciated teens being trained under the supervision of
> 
>suresh

I thought you do not believe in India Today (from your earlier postings). Do I
see a double standard here?

RT
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:00:52 -0400 
From: Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Vedas are NOT shit ( was Re: Animal Sacrifice in Temples
	<1992Sep10.165012.19144@cas.org>

Nobody need more Vedas in Indian.

Only more common sense is needed. Unless you worship BJP.

suresh
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From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sanskrit as a Computer language: Humour
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:49:53 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

>In article <BuA34C.MzJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> C999S2W4@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>
>   Research has proved that Sanskrit is the best language for use in
>Computers. This will give a great boost to the Indian Contribution in the
>field of Computer Programming.

I thought, it would be proper to enlighten those people, who have no idea,
what a computer language is. Experts! just ignore this article.

A computer language is for human beings to communicate to electronic
machines.

The simple computer language to 'talk' to micro computers, that everyone
today is familiar is BASIC, (read as 'bEsik). It is believed that it is the
Arabic pronunciation of 'pEsi', which means 'talk' in Tamil.
[Note: It is common practice in Arabic to pronounce 'pa' as 'ba']

A recently born computer language, but growing very fast in popularity,
probably already the most popular today is 'C' language. (read as
'see' language). It is supposed to have been derived from the Tamil word
'seevu' (to peel skins). The anology is taken from 'peeling an onion'.
The problem in question is peeled or decomposed into smaller and smaller
sub-problems, until a core which is simple to program is reached.

The U.S. Army found all these computer languages too 'shaky' to
develop applications that would stand violent attacks. So they developed
a language called 'ADA' (pronounced as 'aadaa'). It is believed it is
derived from the Tamil word 'aadaa (not shaky) mozhi (language)'.

I am told FORTRAN and COBOL had their roots in Sanskrit and it is some
of those enthusiasts, who are trying to revive those dying languages,
by 'proving' that Sanskrit is the superior language for use in computers.

That raises the vital question. Will Sanskrit be UNIX compatible?
I know there are some netters, who would reject anything that is not
UNIX compatible.

K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: st1oc@jane.uh.edu (Satish, Kumar S.)
Subject: 'VIRAKTHI' - a short conversation/poem(!)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 03:01:00 GMT

Ennudhaya Udhiri pookallil irundhu oru
siriya 'Chendu' idho:


"Aiyaa, vayaru romba Pasikkudhayyaa!"   enraan AVAN.  

"Adhu unnudaya dhurbhagyam " enren NAAN.

"Kaalu kai  ellam valikudhayya " enraan AVAN.

" Adhu nee seidha poorva janma paavaam" enren NAAN.

"Ennayya, edhu kaytaalum oru maadhiri badhil solra" enraan AVAN.

"Oru maadhiri thaan engal Bhaarathiyum " enren NAAN.

" Unakku sondha-bandham yaarum illaiyo?" enraan AVAN.

"Sondham undu , Bandham illai!" enren NAAN.

"Nee seyyara velai ennayyaa?" enraan AVAN.

" Naan oru thanipeththalin Kaavallali"  enren NAAN.

" KADAISYAA, onnu kaykaren, nee yaaru yaa?" enraan AVAN.




" NAAN, naan dhaan... ViRaKtHi!!! " ...........



Ivann,

'egerzhaaghi'(kss)

[ Potruvar Potralum Thootruvaar Thootralum Pogattum Kannanukke!]

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: jagane@netcom.com (Jagane D Sundar)
Subject: WANTED: Names of Priests to conduct Wedding in Tamil at Tiruppur...
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 08:28:37 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Tamil priests wedding


Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:2055 soc.culture.indian:30694
From: ck@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Chandrasekhar Kambhampati)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.cuture.indian.telugu
Subject: A thought....in the form of a subhasita...
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:11:27 GMT
Organization: University of Reading




Sometime back (some three years back) there was a flurry of postings on
subhasitas. The recent postings on the vedas etc brought to mind a few.
They are rather apt, given the circumstances, and the nature of the
discussions. Here are a few:

(once posted by : jayanth@hathi.eng.ohio-state.edu)(This is a real gem)

  " Shakyo vaarayithum jalena hruthabukh chathrena sooryathapo
   Nagendro nishitankooshena samadho dhandena gaurgardhabaha
   Vyadhirbheshaja sangrahaishcha vividhaihi mantraihi prayogairvisham
   Sarvasya aushadham asti shasthrey vihitham MOORKHASYA NAASTI
   AUSHADHAM "
 
Meaning:

It is possible ( Shakyo ) to control/put down/.. ( vaarayithum ) fire
( hruthabukh ) with water ( jalena ) ; suns heat ( sooryathapo ) with
an umbrella ( chathrena ); an elephant, "king of snakes" ( Nagendro )
with a sharp instrument ( nishitankooshena ); stubborn donkeys and
cattle ( samadho gaurgardhabaha ) with a cane/stick ( dhandena );
diseases and poison ( Vyadhi & visham ) with a collection (
sangrahaishcha ) of a variety ( vividhaihi ) of medicine and mantras.
There exists ( asti ) a cure/medicine ( aushadham ) for everything (
Sarvasya ) in the shastras/scriptures ( shasthrey ) but there is no
cure ( NAASTI AUSHADHAM ) for a fool ( MOORKHASYA ).

and one more

(once psted by : pkulkarni@gems.vcu.edu)

         " yatra naasti swayam pragnya, shastram tatra karoti kim
           lochanabhyam viheenasya darpanam kim karishyati"
 
Meaning:
 Where there is no commonsense, of what use are the shastras
(or knowledge in books)? Of what use is a mirror to a man without eyes?



regards
chandrasekhar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: nlp54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Vedas are NOT shit ( was Re: Animal Sacrifice in Temples
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:26:19 GMT

In article <Meg=GYi00awUE2mVBb@andrew.cmu.edu> Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Nobody need more Vedas in Indian.
>
>Only more common sense is needed. Unless you worship BJP.
>
>suresh


XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Ha! Ha! Ha Ha Ha!

You look like you have lots and lots of commonsense.  Your name has vedic and
Hindu origin too.  Do you realize that?  Use a pinch of your great commonsense
MR..  If you say that you don't need any more VEDAs, change your name.


SARVA VEDA MAYEE BHARATAH!
VEDAS ARE ABOVE COMMON SENSE.

PALANA
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Opinions expressed above are not necessarily those of my organization (CAS).

PARANANDI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAM
CAS
COLUMBUS
OHIO
43202
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: anupoothi
Keywords: murukan-aruNagirinaathar
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:09:50 GMT




---------------------------------------------------
anupoothi-17
yaamOthiya kalviyum emmaRivum
thaamEpeRa vElavar thanthathanaal
poomEl mayalpOi aRameip puNarveer
nNaamEl nNadaveer nNadaveer iniyE!

The learning (kalviyum) we had and our knowledge (aRivum)
were given to us by vElavan. With that let world's (poo) 
delusion (mayal) go (pOi) and let we hold fast to
truth (mei) and reality. Sing sweetly with your tongue
(nNaa) vElavan's glory.


anpudan,
Kathiravan.

--------------------------------------------- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: kamban-Ramaayanam
Keywords: Sita, Ram and Chithappa
Date: 6 Sep 92 05:41:22 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Newsgroups: m
Subject: Re: kamban-Ramaayanam
Distribution: world
Organization: AT&T
Keywords: do not bore me

In article <1992Sep5.181236.20703@ugle.unit.no> thaya@Lise.Unit.NO (Thayanantha Balasundaram) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.173246.19770@hubcap.clemson.edu>, sdeepak@hubcap.clemson.edu (shankar deepak) writes:
> > Hi guys
> > 	I spoke to a travel agent in Colorado by the name of Elliots
> > Travel. He has offered me  a good deal on tickets to India. I want to know whether any of you have any experiences dealing with. I would be
> > grateful if you could provide me any info on his reliability.
> > 
> > Thanx
> > Deepak
> > e-mail:sdeepak@eng.clemson.edu
> > 	sdeepak@hubcap.clemson.edu
> > 
>
>
>   is that kamban_Ramaayanam eller kumpan-raamaayanam
>
>   kumpan :=: kumpakarnan
>   
>   bye


Past:
	Vidiya Vidiya Ramayanam Kettu Vidindhathum, Seethaukku
	Raman Chithappan enRu yaro sonnanam.

Present:
	Vidiya Vidiya Ramayanam Kettu Vidindhathum, Kambanukkum
	travel-indusryukkum sambandham undu enRu Deepak sir sonnarAm !!

AAlso, Nalla Jodi-gal:
		(1)	Abdul Kadhar - Amavasi
		(2)	MulzhanKal (knee) - Mottai Thalai
	 	(3)	Kamban	- Airline Tickets
	
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From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Birth and Death
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:13:21 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

The concept of birth and death is intimately related to the words
used in ancient languages.
In Tamil,   Death = (iRa)ppu
            Birth = (piRa)ppu.
These words imply re-birth, and the cycle of birth and deaths.
The fact that the word for 'birth' is derived from that of 'death'
and not vice versa is itself note worthy.

The word birth could itself have been originated from 'piRa ppu'.

K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Find this kuRaL...
Date: 6 Sep 1992 13:01:41 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

cs_nlg@lub001.lamar.edu ( Raj ) writes :

>	I was wondering if anyone would help me, figure out the full form of
>the following Kural........ which ends as follows....

>	........Pai ena peyyium malaizh.
                                ^^^^^^^
> Raj

  It is `mazhai'[ rain ].
  This kuRaL is from the chapter `vaazhkkaith thuNainalam'.   
 Using K.Srinivasan's ADAMI transliteration scheme, the kuRaL 
is given below .
 \(TAMIL) 
   deyvam thozhaa_aL kozhu_nan thozhuthezhuvaaL
   peyyanap peyyum mazhai [ KuRaL, # 55 ].
 
 Meaning :
--------
   deyvam = god
   thozhaa_aL = woman who does not worship
   kozhu_nan = husband
   thozhuthu = worshipping
   ezhuvaaL = wakes up ( everyday )
   peyyanap peyyum = it will pour if it is ordered so
   mazhai = the rain

  VaLLuvar speaks in praise of chastity of women. He says that,
if a woman doesn't worship any god but worships her husband as
god always, the rain will pour at her bidding.
                                                     S.Pandian
                                             sp2@cec1.WUSTL.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable)
Subject: Re: Non sequitur (was: thugLak aLikkum "puratchi sashti kavacham")
Reply-To: Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu>
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:56:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.173224.18358@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy) writes:
[Non sequitur deleted]
[More abrupt non sequiturs deleted]
Another non sequitur from my side:
 All the threads you discussed were distributed to world and your posting
was only distributed to na only. Why so?

Venkat
--
venkat@jetson.uh.edu                | If you love something,set it free.
venkat@menudo.uh.edu                | If it comes back, it is yours.
venkat@uhupvm1.uh.edu               | If it does not, it never was.
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From: ravi@socrates.umd.edu (Ravi Sinnarajah)
Subject: poem: race(?!) [kavithai: inam(?!)]
Summary: poem from Tamil Eezham, thamizh eezhathil irunthu oru kavithai...
Keywords: poem, literature, kavithai, ilakkiyam, eezham/ilankai, tamil/thamizh
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 03:25:50 GMT


vaNakkam!

	 The following is a poem penned by a poet from Eastern 
province of ilankai that questions the hypocrisy--- racism/
chauvinism that pervades in the `red-soiled land' -thaamira paraNi/
taprobane(as the yavanar/Greeks called it)...


uNarka (uNarappadum enRa nal_eNNaththudan),
anpan,
/iravi.

PS: Apologies for *not* citing the source---due to the fact that I`ve
    misplaced an issue of "suvadukaL" on which it was published...

----------------------kavithaiyin thodakkam--------------------------

\(TAMIL)

     enathu inaththup pEnaiyaal azhuthathu

                            nilavukku vEliyidu.
        sooriyanaiyum pankupOttup pakirnthukoL.
                                veLLikaLai eNNu
                   ina vikithaasaarappadi piri.
          naakarika yukaththu manitharkaL naam!

     kadalai aLanthu edu.

                    vaanaththaip piLanthu thuNdaadu.
                                   samayam vanthaal,
                                 kaatRaik kadaththu.
                                            allathu,
      sooRaavaLiyaik koNdu sakOthara inaththai azhi.
                                                ankE
     sevvaayk kirakaththil nammil oruvan iRankattum.

                                        eRumpukkum
                                inamuththirai idu.
                                maraththiRkukkooda
                     saathi samayaththaip pukattu.
                                   puRaa mukkattum
                     `innoru inaththai nakaiththu.
      palliyum poochchiyum naththaiyum thavaLaiyum
       kaththum oliyellaam pEthankaL thonikkattum.
                                              vaa,
                           vaNNaththup poochchiyE!
         ithu unnudaiya inaththu malarthaan nukar.

                                      paavam,
                    manithan pirintha vitham!
     naaNnkooda inthak kavithai ezhuthukaiyil
                       oru pEnai maRuththathu
        "unathu inaththup poruLalla naanenRu"
              O... athu vERu inaththup pEnai!

     --kaviNYar. sOlaikkiLi

-----------------------------mudipu----------------------------------
From: hari@bass.bu.edu (hariharane ramasamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: a worthy article to read
Date: 12 Sep 92 15:28:51 GMT
Organization: Boston University



	The following text is one of the shortest and best speech
	of Abraham Lincoln. I reproduce with all respect as it 
	might throw some light on today's problems.

	December 6, 1864

	On thursday of last week two ladies from Tennesse came
	before the President asking the release of their husbands 
	held as prisoners of war at Johnson's Island. They were put
	off till friday, and were again put off to saturday. At 
	each of the interviews one of the ladies urged that her
	husband was a religious man. On saturday the President ordered
	the release of the prisonersand then said to this lady
	"You say your husband is a religious man; tell him when
	you meet him, that I say I am not much of a judge of
	religion, but that in my opinion, the religion that sets
	men to rebel and fight against their government, because
	as they think, that government does not sufficiently help
	some men to eat their bread on the sweat of other men's faces,
	is not the sort of religion upon which people can get to heaven!"

	In my opinion a President is yet to come who cared so much
	for a country for his speeches not aroused the mighty sound
	of clapping hands when delivered rather a deep thinking 
	emotional silence among the crowd. I agree totally with
	the President that people who fight against the country
	based on religious or any matters are not the persons
	who deserve a homeland.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thai@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Sankaran Thayumanavan)
Subject: sirikka mudinthaal.....
Summary: sirikka mudinthaal...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:21:37 GMT
Keywords: sirikka mudinthaal

Just remembered someone telling me this years ago.  thought i would post it.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

When the English prince Charles was visiting India, he went to Madras.  He
was driving around the city with Puratchi thalaivar and the chief secretary
of Tamil Nadu Government. The Chief Secretary and Charles were talking in 
English and MGR did not have a clue of what they are talking about. But,
obviously Mr. Puratchi wanted to involve himself in the conversation. So,
he told Charles, "This is L.I.C." when they were crossing the l.i.c. building.
Charles looked at the building and said, "oh! i see" and Puratchi immediately
replied, "no, no, this is not o.i.c., this is l.i.c.".

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disclaimer: This joke did not originate from Thayumanavan. (engayoo kettavai)

anbudan,
thayumanavan