HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: SIGGRAPH ravers
Organization: Friends of Ted Milton
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:17:39 GMT

robcamp@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Campanell) writes:
>Are there any ravers going to SIGGRAPH in Chicago?  

Well, you and me, at least. 

-- 
| Randy Jones           |  Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy,
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu  |  I like him just fine.
| 608 259 0311          |  But he's a mouth breather...
From: SDDASCOMB@poppy.ucdavis.edu (STEVEN D. DASCOMB)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: House and Deep House, what's the difference?
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:45:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

There's been a bit of discussion amongst people I know about what the
difference between house and deep house. So either post up a 
good definition.... in 50 words or less. Flame away. 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith)
Subject: Re: Future Sounds of London
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:57:35 GMT

In article <9207250228.AA29258@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Michael A Pisano <mpisano@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>Yes, you can get it at WORLD RECORDS in Columbus, OH.  I'll mail you their
>address & Ph # if your really interested in the mail-order.

Please post!
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch)
Subject: Re: UK's Kiss FM.....
Keywords: kiss
Organization: TQM Communications, London, UK
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:25:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.142304.9681@eng.cam.ac.uk> kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price) writes:
>Does anyone in the UK (specifically London!) listen to Kiss FM?
>If so, could you let me know the air-play times of all the 
>Rave, Techno, Reggae and Dub programs.

From the latest programme schedule sheet:-

Mon     7.15pm-10pm  David Rodigan (reggae)
Tues    7.15pm-10pm  Steve Jackson (house/rave) [one half of Smart E's]
Tues   10.00pm-1am   Colin Faver (techno)
Thurs  10.00pm-1am   Colin Dale (techno)
Fri     7.15pm-10pm  Judge Jules (some techno but mostly garage/euro)
Sun     3.00am-6am   Manasseh (dub) [featured on Orb's ABTU]
Sun     6.00pm-7pm   Colin Faver (hard house chart)
Sun     9.00pm-11pm  Joey Jay (dub)

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jna@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Public Enemy)
Subject: Re: SF RAVES mailing list.
Organization: /home/fsg/jna/.organization
	<w4jm5yb.howard@netcom.com> <14srukINN2bs@agate.berkeley.edu>
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:41:51 GMT

New england / North-EAST information is available from 

ne-raves-request@silver.lcs.mit.edu

which I moderate...
We've recently added a up-to-the-minute calendar , covering maine to DC... 

--John
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From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: last dance
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:43:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
   -camper.


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From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: KLF - what happened?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:30:27 GMT

To elaborate, they were more of a novelty band, I mean, at the time they
did it the idea of a Scottish rap act was inconceivable.  The other
important thing to mention is that as part of their gimmick they pushed
the envelope (sorry to use a Tapism like that) of sampling far beyond what
anybody else would think of doing at the time.  It was the "sampling" of
Abba's "Dancing Queen" in its entirety that spelled the demise of that
first album.

> then moved towards
>more pop stuff ('Who Killed The JAMS?', "Whitney Joins The JAMS")

"Whitney.." is a scream!  Huge chunks of "I Wanna Dance With Somebody"
were lifted.  Brilliant!  (and downright awful, too!)

>There is/was no single "KLF Style", and if you like one thing they did it's
>very much a tossup whether you'd like any of the rest.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(underline that)
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith)
Subject: Re: S'cuze me... AND dammit i hate...
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:29:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.212223.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>the song is the DOpe GodDAMit hardKOR bastard of a song
>
>"There Is No Law" by Messiah
>
>this is off of Kickin' Records in the UK
>my version is on the Kaos Theory comp (Telstar TCD 2562)
[deleted stuff]
>I especially recommend buying Kaos Theory--you WILL NOT REGRET IT
>it is the one tekkno CD i would never give up before amputation

DEFINITELY!  

Someone here gave a bad review of that CD but I just can't understand.
This is definitely a GREAT CD.  GET IT.
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From: ghond@acca.nmsu.edu (ICE-9)
Subject: "The Horn Track"
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:51:36 GMT

Superquick review:  Picked this up on white label 12" from HMV in
Toronto.  Incredible.  Sounds like Dead Can Dance samples over an
absolutely WICKED breakbeat techno groove.  The DJ who spun it for
me said it had something to do with Future Sound of London (whose
album I did *not* buy, unfortunately, since it was $29).  If their
stuff is anything like this, however,  I definitely will.

Only info:
	"The Horn Track"
	Produced by London's Tim Taylor
	Original UK Breakbeat mix & Toxik 2 Hardcore remix
	EX-02
	(212) 472-7975
	Dist. by NCP
	
-- stephen, the I.C.E man
-- 
stephen white			| the priests and the friars
ghond@sloth.nmsu.edu		| approach me in dread
				| because i still love you,
				| my love, and you're dead - s. o'connor
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From:  (Respect)
Subject: Re: Upcoming raves in Bay Area?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:42:13 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <1992Jul30.205702.12771@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rao@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ray O'Neal) writes:
> 
>  What's happening in the rave scene in SF/SJ/PA this weekend (AUG 1)
> Anyone know about FEEL-X? I need something zany to impress some foreign
> visitors.

I strongly recommend you avoid Feel-X.  Last time I went I paid $15 to get
into a way too packed warehouse.  The music and visuals were average, the set
up shabby.  The rave got busted about 20 minutes after I got there.  I was
promised free admision to a club down the street, but I took one look at the
sea of people waiting to get in the back (while paying customers walked right
in the front), and decided to take my chances elsewhere.

Rumor has it that Feel-X was still selling tickets to their already busted
rave several hours later.

Check out the stuff about the SF Raves mailing list in this newsgroup.

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: The ultimate UFO welcome party...
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:47:03 GMT


It just hit me.

Roswell, New Mexico.
Late summer.
DJ's from around the universe.
Three day weekend (labor day?)

The Orb.


This could be the penultimate rave and I would easily travel for it.  I think
the jaded LA ravers would be happy to see something like this happen as well.
The only question is, is it possible?

It would be nice to make it free, but it doesn't seem very likely (I'd put
$200 into it though).

Roswell isn't the only possibility.  We could also go out near that Nevada
airforce base (I've forgotten the name) where the conspiracists say we test
UFOs at.

A couple of Denver promoters have been trying to contact me for a joint
venture in the four corners area.

Can someone get me the Wau Mr. Modo number?
-- 
	   "What state is Salt Lake City in?" - Ticketmaster Agent

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Re: KLF - what happened? 
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: ahawks@nyx.UUCP (andy)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 06:48:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.030231.23553@regina.cs.uregina.ca>
keeler@hercules.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler) writes: 
|Hi;
|
|I hope this isn't redundant; I just started reading this group.  Heck, I wish
|I'd known about this group a year ago!
|
|Anyhow, I was hoping someone could tell me what the heck happened to the KLF.
|I had heard about a month ago they had split up.  Has anyone heard any recent
|news?  Why did they split?  

They got tired, basically.  I don't know that much.  I imagine someone like
Lazlo Nibble will know.

|Another question I had about the KLF is their image; I hear them as a
|techno-dance style band and yet I get the picture that they are somehow hard
|rock based (this probably doesn't make sense).  The reason I mention this is
|because of their appearance on the brit awards this year; I was TOTALLY
|surprised.  They weren't at all what I expected.    

Well, Altern8 looks pretty industrial to me.    I'd like to see that Brits
award thing, with the sheep and all...

Oh, BTW, the guys from the KLF (Cauty) have been in the music industry a long
time..I think Cauty produced Echo & The Bunneymen at one point or something
like that...That may explain their image...

(Hey, cheap pun time:  KLF vs. Echo & The Bunneymen:  "She floats like a
sheep, dead on the water")

|Finally, can someone suggest a CD or two which might be along the same lines
|as what the KLF have done; I was quite impressed with their last (literally?)
|release.  

By last release do you mean The White Room (which was poopy, yeah, that's
right poopy, IMHO)??  The KLF have done everything...Check out Chill Out... :)
At any rate, you'd probly like The Shamen....

|...Jason

SPEAKING OF THE KLF!  Ok, I know they burned all their old stuff...Does this
include the tracks for The Black Room?  I've been waiting for that one since
before The White Room, when I heard about it o a radio show...But, since, the
breakup, it looks like it won't happen...But, I'm sure everyone out there
wants to get their hands on The Black Room...Anybody have any news/rumors
about The Black Room??

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From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Subject: alt.rave in Mondo 2000
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:56:02 GMT

   Well, looks like Mondo 2000 has noticed alt.rave.  Here's the blurb
(What permission?) from the most recent issue (#7) on pg. 30 in the
Street Tech section under "Stret Noise":

     "An international  rave party scene appears to   be  in full
     swing.  You can keep  abreast   of the latest  happenings by
     checking out   the  alt.rave  newsgroup  on   Usenet.  Party
     vicariously as you read  announcements and follow-up reports
     from  raves all over the  world.  The lists of currently hot
     trax are quite useful."

  Not a whole lot of rave related stuff elsewhere in the rag.  There
is a *really* interesting article on "Zippys" or "Techno-Pagans" in an
interview with Fraser Clark (publisher of Encyclopaedia Psychedelica
International), but interveiewer Mondo Connie comes off sounding like
she knows nothing about the rave scene (she probably doesn't).  
  They constantly use the terms "House" and "Acid House" even though
Fraser admits that they and the term "rave" are outdated, though he
fails to provide another term.  The article is really more about his
theory on the "Youth Culture" movement, the death of rock, and the
move away from the importance of the ego, the leader, and the
individual, to the importance of the "People" and individuals, and
other stuff on "House" and 120bpm (kinda slow isn't it?)  :)
   There is another over colorful and wordy side page on the aging of
raves called "Exploded Hearts".
   And some nice pics of Deelite with a few quotes.

   I like the mag and the prose is sometimes interesting, but
sometimes it seems like one big cryptographic inside joke.  Anyway,
they could pick a few better music groups to fit in with their future
subculture theme...

--
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Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
From: nuscss1@vms1.iscs.nus.sg (Vax BULLET-IN-Board SysOps)
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard the new 808 State?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: National University of Singapore Dept. of Computer Sc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:01:00 GMT

In article <14kjv8INNiiq@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>, map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz) writes...
>from what i heard a little while back (on rec.music.industrial, i believe),
>there is a new 808 single out called, i think, 2x10. no one i know or know of

I think it's out on a very limited edition promo single abt 3 mth ago...
Only abt 100 copies or smthng pressed..

The latest one I got from 808 State is the remix of the classic Planet Rock
by Afrika Bambataa & The Soulsonic Force...

P.S. The above single also features LFO mixes..!!
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial,rec.music.cd
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: U.F.Orb CD errors?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 07:38:44 GMT

In <1992Jul29.162909.21077@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>It would seem that I have a poor pressing of the U.F.Orb CD.  I can't see any
>visible defects, but it has a high tendency to skip, even when the CD player
>isn't jarred.  Has anyone else had this problem with their copy?

My "normal" CD player doesn't have a problem with it, but I have a portable
that is incredibly sensetive to physical deformation that it won't play
on very reliably.  I had similar problems with the Brian Eno Fractal Zoom
and Ken Nordine's last CD in this player.  I couldn't determine exactly
what the problem was, but it behaved as if there was some drag--playing
the disc takes a lot more current than the portable can deal with.
-- 
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 I love the world and if I have to sue for custody, Then I will sue for custody
From: map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: tell me more about the KLF
Date: 29 Jul 1992 19:58:27 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tahoe.cs.brown.edu


okay. so at some point i went ahead and bought The White Room and was very
disappointed. so some of the songs are good, but i find it, on the whole,
monotonous, and i get tired of the crowds screaming/"kick out the jams!"/
"i wanna see you sweat!"/etc stuff. so i decided not to buy any more KLF.
then i decided on a lark to get Doctorin' the Tardis. now, i like Doctorin'
but the really cool thing on this CD is the "original, uncut" version of
What Time is Love (i.e. without all the screaming). so what i want to know
is what else might i like? are the various mixes of WTiL screamy? how about
Chill Out? What's it sound like?

mike

PS - not that I don't like the screaming. it's perfect for the right mood.
	i do actually like the White Room version of WTiL.



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From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard the new 808 State?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. 
Reply-To: ahawks@nyx.UUCP (andy)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:31:20 GMT

In article <14j293INN752@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu
(Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes: 
|In article <!cfmjwl@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes: 
|>karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) writes:
|>
|>> Please, could someone review the new 808 State? I can't bear the 
|>> anticipation. 
|>"*What* new 808 State?" he asked.
|
|aaah....aaah....aaah.... I..... I.... I.....
|
|(Brian, reduced to a stammering incoherent mass of techno-jelly, runs to his 
|friendly neighborhood techno outlet, screaming something along the lines of
|"Mine! All mine! Down! Down! Down! Go! Go! Go! Miiiiine!!!" and chanting
|"8...0...8...0...8...0...8...0...8...0...8...0...8.....")
|
|	-Brian
|_____________________________________________________________________________

<grabs wallet and heads down to nearest record store, not even bothering to
log off the net>.....<I hope I didn't froget to make that turn at Albequerke>

Ok - rumors like this make my week....I hope this new release is not a joke -
what is it?  single? lp?  

I also remember reading awhile back that one of 'em (Graham?) went off to do
solo stuff..Truth? Rumor?  Baseless lie?  (But, IMHO, 808 State *is* a Graham
Massey solo project, but, anyway...)

BTW - just to inject my own useless dribble - Qmart is what music is.  It's
all there needs to be.  

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pezely@hitl.washington.edu (Pez)
Subject: Rave -- Seattle/Portland
Organization: industrial dance music appreciation society
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:05:37 GMT


At the Rave Nation (vancouver,seattle,portland) party last month, there were
flyers for another rave going on this weekend.  here are the phone numbers for
monthly times/locations. 

portland: 503/299-5683 fri, july 31
seattle: 206/726-9062  sat, aug 1

if anyone happens to be going to the seattle one, drop me a few packets... 
i'd be interested in meeting fellow net.ravers.  :)

-pez
pez@hitl.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: KLF - what happened?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:47:25 GMT

Oh, come on.  Listen to any pre-Tardis JAMs and tell me you take that
stuff seriously!  By 1987 the only non-black-urban rap being done was
the Rick Rubinized Beastie Boys/Run-DMC/Aerosmith.  It Takes
Two hadn't even come out by then.  Samples were still just being used
to add a little spice.  So it was quite a surprise to hear *Scottish*
rapping and *blatant* sampling hitting it (relatively) big.

Mikey
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL)
Subject: Re: dammit Black Sabbath cover?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 07:35:00 GMT

In article <2A6F38E6.23592@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes...
> 
>i really hate asking this,
>but...
> 
>does anyone know a song that has a female sining
>something like
> 
>"I want to reach out,
>and touch the sky"
>???
>pretty please?
*************************************************************
*****	These lyrics sound like Black Sabbath's Supernaut  **
*************************************************************


> 
>ive really fallen in love with this song so im going to 
>go beat up any record stores that dont carry it :)
> 
> 
> 
>--
>I am, therefore I rave.		"If we were still going barefoot, the
>Disco Biscuit? ,		       world would be a much softer place."
>dana watanabe 		email to: DWATANAB@UCI.EDU
From: jbs21045@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joe Sterbenc)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Dumb question: what is rave?
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:52:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Subject line says it all, I think....

Any ed-u-cation would be appreciated; feel free to email to save board space.


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	How many more days will I have this darling account?
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From: mmk3@po.CWRU.Edu (Marla M. Kammer)
Subject: Re: Data - living inside me
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:39:00 GMT


there is a song by Powerpill called "Pac-Man (MIckey Finn's Yum Yum Mix)".

Are you sure it's Pac-man?  There is a song that samples the tetris theme music,
but of course, the artist and song escape me.... I think it might be X-Man, but 
I'm most likely wrong....When I remember, I'll tell you...


Joey Beltram at Kool-aid...(216)892-3373....

Marla
-- 
Make it happy...
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: renew@blade (Rene Walter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Dutch Dance 15
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:11:55 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Don't bother,
It will probably be another "This is the top of commercial SHIT" list
(I can already see poing in the number one slot)

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