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From: bbe001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Phat basslines and slammin beats
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:22:51 GMT

How many times do you have to here that phrase before it loses it's meaning?
Still, that's exactly what 'Rebirth of Silk,' the Digable Planets single
has! Does anyone know when this record drops? Someone mentioned before that
the main rapper sounds like he's biting Tip's style- abstract poet-smooth-
flow, etc. and yeah he does but still 'Rebirth' is the shit! Anyone have any
411 on them?

			Peace Out
			B......E

'When asked about nervous exhibitors and the media, the film-maker went
ballistic. "Those fears are bullshit! Do you think these people called up
TriStar about the violence in Terminator 2? Of course not. Why is there a
double standard for black movies? Talk about violence stemming from my movie
does nothing but keep white people away. These motherfuckers said the same
thing about Do the Right Thing. Exhibitors have nothing to worry about. The
African-American community is going to see this picture in a very respectful
mode. There will be no problems." -Spike Lee on Malcolm X from November Details 
magazine.

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From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.)
Subject: Re: My two cents
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:05:40 GMT

In article <balbondj.721882349@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Dah Man) writes:
>Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:
>
>>Just another song to add to the funky drummer list, "Hippy Chick." The
>>group name escapes me at the moment.
>
>  The group is called Soho.  I think it has one of the best beats for a 
>  non-hip hop song.
if i remember correcly, it doesn't have the "funky drummer" track on it,
but Biz Markee's "pickin' boogers" beat on it.
>
>           -Dah Man-
>
-jon
(el nubiano anointeeto)
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Malcolm X: The movie
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:08:23
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: panther.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca's message of Sun, 22 Nov 92 02:28:07 MST

sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji) writes:
|- I thought Spike went OUT OF HIS WAY to imply that The Honorable Elijah
|- Muhammed had nothing to do with the order (he was too busy coughing);
|- the so-called Black Muslims who killed him *may* very well have been
|- rogues; AND the CIA/FBI certainly knew the attempt would take place
|- and simply let it happen.
|- 
|- Didin't you get that?

|Hmm, the way I got it, was that Elijah was working with or was somehow 
|tied with the FBI/CIA in Malcolm Shabazz's death...I am going back on 
|Tuesday to see the movie again tho, since I missed some parts...I think 
|Spike altered abit of the facts from what I have read tho...

Well, one could draw that conclusion; however, I took the
juxtaposition(!) of scenes with the assassins and T.H.E.M. coughing to
indicate how little control he had at that stretch of time.

Thow in the lack of a direct order, Baines, the CIA an X's comments on
it "not just being the NOI" and you get a rather obvious attempt to
avoid saying that the NOI had much to do with it.

|Just saw the video for Revolution on MM tonite, and it is pretty 
|good...not as slammin' as I heard but it is good...also, check out the 
|latest Rap Masters special for a Malcolm Shabazz issue. It has 4 pin-ups, 
|and lotsa pictures, and articles w. Denzel/Spike/Al and others...

I like it.
--
Peace.
           "Love is like a snowmobile rushing across the tundra and then
            suddenly it flips over pinning you underneath.  At night, 
            the Ice Weasels come."
                                    -Matt Groening, "Love is Hell"
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

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From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Subject: Re: CATS:  Already?  The 2nd Annual New Jack Hip Hop Awards
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:29:31 GMT

Why not just use the same categories, and if anyone can think of any, just add
those to the ones already established?  Consistency would add something great
to these awards I would think, in terms of historical comparison.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
From: hmo@wam.umd.edu (Hipno House)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Mr. Lee's new album
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:45:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Anybody have Mr. Lee's new one?  Is it like his first album(dance/house)?
Drop a quick review to the net or just e-mail.



-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     Haluk                            "Better mixes than Betty Crocker"  
 hmo@wam.umd.edu                           --CLUB 95 on WPGC 95.5--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
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From: rutley1@cc.swarthmore.edu (rOb UtLeY)
Subject: PHILLY CONCERT INFO!
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:18:48 GMT



Looking for info on when any and all hip-hop artists are having concerts in
the Philly metro area...

Peace.
Shouts out to: I.C.D!

--Ro.
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From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Subject: Re: Call Me Crazy For Asking, But...
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:11:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.195359.4463@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, rojohnso@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:
>I dont know what that 12" is like, but Ive seen the video for Lil D's "Here
>I come"(or some shit like that) And it is very weak, IMO. He sounds like he's
>trying too hard to sound like a B-Boy, and ends up sounding like nothing more
>than what he is, a white boy, with no real street knowledge, trying to talk
>like a b-boy..(Its not a white thing, Im not trying to hear any shit from 
>people calling me racist, and Id be the  first to tell you that House of Pain
>is all that,) but it just doesnt work....To Sum it up, Bud is Booty...
>
>                                                   Opinions are like assholes
>                                                   everybody got one, baby
>                                                              RJ


Thanks for the info.  One less 12" to waste duckets, brain cells, gas, and 
electricity on.


K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: pIN The Tail On The Honky (Ice Cube/Lenchmob)
Date: 22 Nov 92 13:56:12
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
	<1992Nov20.181139.383@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu's message of Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:11:39 GMT

>>>>> "K-Mello" == K-Mello SGP '92 <klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> writes:
	[some of my stuff deleted]
>Now if Ice Cube distributed his cut on self pressed records and tapes from
>out the back of the trunk of his car, and his company said "You can't do
>that, this stuff is indecent." then you have censorship.
>

  K-Mello> If Cube distributed his cut on self pressed records and tapes from out the back
  K-Mello> of the trunk of his car, they would probably sue his ass for doing shit on
  K-Mello> another label.

This is *probably* true. I don't know the details of Cube's record contract
so I can't comment as to whether or not he can distribute on other labels.
But I suspect he can't due to standard operating procedure. However, that's
why I qualified my statement with "You can't do that, this stuff is
indecent." Now if they saidn "You can't do that, you have a contract with
us." then his ass is over a barrel.

Still not censorship though.
--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Malcolm X - Don't be IGNORANT
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:42:43 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1e8j65INNig@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, marko@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mark Steven Adamowicz) writes:
>
>I think with all this talk about Malcolm X the main thing to keep in mind is:
>
>	DON'T JUST PUT THE X ON YOUR HEAD, PUT IT IN YOUR HEAD
>
>I can't count the number of suckers I have seen sportin' the X cap who I know
>don't know shit about the man or his message. I have read at least 20+ books
>on the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X, and the Black Panthers. I even chose to do
>my SUFFICIENCY, which is 25 page research paper on the Black Muslims. The only
>Malcolm X thing I own is a shirt I bought 2.5 years ago (at least) when it 
>wasn't "cool" yet to wear his stuff. I am white and I still see the messages
>of Malcolm overlooked by whites as well. Racism taught Racism and only by 
>totally denouncing it (ie Black Supremacy is wrong as well) can one start to
>stop ALL forms of racism and start to improve humanity. Wear the Hat, buy the
>clothes but at least read his Autobiography and if you want to know about the
>way Malcolm REALLY thought his lasy days, pick "The last year of Malcom X"
>See you at the movies........marko@wpi.wpi.edu
>
>

Word!

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: controversy + movies
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:56:31
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: panther.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: jms38@po.CWRU.Edu's message of 16 Nov 1992 18:23:48 GMT

jms38@po.CWRU.Edu (Jason M. Snyder) writes:
	   I recently inquired as to whether or not the movie: "Malcolm X"
|will provoke hostility.  I'd like to clarify.  
	   When the movie "Juice" came out, I went to go see it.  At the door
|to the theater, I was frisked by two armed guards along with the rest of
|the patrons.  Why should anyone have to go to a movie and sit in the
|theater in fear.  NOTE:  I realize that these reactions happen in a lot of
|controversial movies.  I am no trying to imply that the violence does not
|cross racial boundaries in movie content or production.  What I am trying
|to say is that, Spike Lee is known for his controversial messages in
|movies.  Do you think that He will thwart the life of Malcolm in order to
|provoke controversy? 

Please.  How many riots for DTRT?  Zero.

Goodfellas had more crowd violence associated with it than Juice and
that's a fact.

Folx are just stereotype driven idiots.

--
Peace.
               "I never heard of them.  But I know that rap is the
                music where it rhymes."
                         -President Bush on rapper Ice Cube, May 1992
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

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From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Re: Phife Dog
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:52:08 GMT

about ATCQ...granted, theyre on the lazy tip style of rap, granted not every-
thing they say is of extreme substance, but they are just too fly!!! I guess
if you  cant get into their music, youll never be able to get into them. ATCQ
was formed, with intents of forming a group  that raps over slow, lazy jazzy
music...so if you cant get into the base of their foundation, youll never un-
derstand theyre appeal...I still think that their sound is  *phat*!!

And about them  all of a  sudden wanting to be hard, as you  say, there is 
nothing *truly* hard about hot sex, its something one(at least I) would expect
from ATCQ...regardless, if you really like an artist, you are supposed to be
able  to grow with them...Aparently you *never* cared for  them,  so how could
you possibly understand?? Youre like one in a small minority of  hip  hop fans
who cant get into ATCQ, but thats your opinion, and everyone has one...

                                                                Peace
                                                                 RJ
From: d92j1pe@Dublin.DoCS.UU.SE (Jesper Pettersson)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: A few Beastie Boys Questions...
Date: 21 Nov 1992 21:05:39 GMT
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis, France
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dublin.docs.uu.se

I just wonder where (if?) I can get the lyrics for the License to Ill-record
(especially for the song Paul Revere, my absolute all-time rap-favorite!)
I also wonder how many records BB has released so far (Have I missed any?) ?

BEASTIE BOYS RULES!!!!


Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly)
Subject: Phife Dog
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:22:22 GMT

         I still don't give Phife props on the mic: 

         "I just try my best to like go all out/ 
          some might even say yo shorty black you're buggin out."

                                                   - from "Buggin' Out" 

                                                  -Roop
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Malcolm X: The movie
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:44:24 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <92321.120154U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>, Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>The movie drops here in Chicago on Wednesday.  I saw on the news how the NAAWP
>wants to try to ban this movie because of the potential violence.  In my
>opinion, the only reason why a group like the NAAWP would want to ban a movie
>about Malcolm X is because they feel that Black folk are gonna get mad as hell
>when we see how the "devils" treated Malcolm and his family... they may be
>worried that we are going to go on a seek-and-destroy mission.  I guess they'd
>be more comfortable if Spike Lee were doing "Driving Miss Daisy II" or some-
>thing like that.
>
>I also heard that the Nation of Islam aren't too thrilled with this movie, be-
>cause it doesn't focus enough attention on Malcolm after his visit to the
>Mecca.  Any info on this?  Louis Farrakhan was treated to a private screening,
>but I haven't heard anything since.

From what I remember reading, I would think the NOI wouldn't want attention
focused on Malcolm after his visit to Mecca.

>
>Peace Out...
>The Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner...

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
From: sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Sam Bhimji)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Ice Cube, Wicked is whack!
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:38:19 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

- >We just got the new Cube single here in E-Town (with Wicked) but seeign 
- >as how the damn music store wants $21.99 for a single (on cassette) I 
- >said kill that noise, and am waitin' for the album...
- 
- I hope that price is a misprint!
- 
Sorry man, but dat $21.99 is da price! Don't forget the 7% tax on top of 
that...

Sam Bhimji              sbhimji@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
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From: lpm@fert2.fe.psu.edu (Lee Miller/8192;PennState-Fayette)
Subject: Re: Heather B.
Organization: PennState - Fayette Campus Computer Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:09:33 GMT

In article <BxzIMt.Dw2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.) writes:
>you mean that that was the same Heather b. that's been down w/BDP that
>was on "the real world"?  i shoulda watched that show.

Yeah when the show first started she mentioned it and they showed part of a
BDP vid if I remember right which Heather was in, also during the course of
the season they showed Heather in the studio doing work on her album, I was
unimpressed with her skills as a rapper though, to much shouting, not near
enough flowing :)
								-Lee
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Dah Man)
Subject: House of Pain
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:32:03 GMT

 Is House Of Pain West Coast or East Coast?  I know Everlast was West Coast,
 but I am just curious if the relocated to the east.  I Yo Saturday they had
 HOP on, and they expalined there connection with Cypress Hill (Soul Assains)
 but they were in New York and it seems that they may have relocated.







      -Dah Man-
From: K-Jinx@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Cube....._The Predator_
Date: 18 Nov 1992 04:05:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: stanfomw@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael W. Stanford)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-19.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Keywords: Hot Diggity Damn!!

Whut up, dodz!

	I'm listenin' 2 da new Cube album alreddy.....been listenin' 2 it since  
Noon...and.....FUCK!!  It'z NASTY PHAT!!  Cube bussez some cra-z shizit in this rekkid!   
This iz tha first album dat i actually listened 2 ALL DA WAY THRU!!

	Nigga lyke me ain't even disappointed in this one....but, i'll leeve da  
breakdownz and shizit 2 da pro'z out there.....all i can say iz....get this ho!!  Ouch,  
Cube comez niggity fuckin' nasty!

	
					bailin' lyke hay.....

					K-Jinx

	
	Guerillaz in tha Mist......without Jungle Fever!!  -Ice Cube
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From: jbarret2@willamette.edu (James Barrett)
Subject: Jackson Five
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:05:50 GMT


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From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Subject: Re: new categories
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:38:15 GMT

In article <4f2GnaK00iV1M37LUo@andrew.cmu.edu>, Otis Jerome Greene <og22+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>check it-
>
>           for 6 new categories for the hip hop awards, check this out:
>
>                     best EAST COAST rapper-male
>                     best EAST COAST rapper-female
>                     best EAST COAST rap group
>                     best west coast rapper-male
>                     best west coast rapper-female
>                     best west coast rap group
>
>                                                           whaddya think?
>        
>                                                               -og

I don't think we should separate the 2.  Either you have skills or you don't. 
Just because your from a different section of the country shouldn't give you
more chance of winning an award.  Plus, you have to add the confusion of
artists who are originally from one place, but now hail from some place else,
artists who are from one place, but theor producers are from another place,
artists who are from one place and have record deals with labels based in
another place, and that would merit best artist from other countries also.  If
we had an award for all 3 groups from each country, the awards would get long
and boring.  (IMO)


>
>
K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
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From: robertk@rkrajewski.lotus.com (Robert Krajewski)
Subject: Re: Malcolm X soundtrack (was Re: Whatever happened to....)
Organization: Lotus Development Corporation
	<1992Nov13.105501.27446@Cadence.COM>
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:03:20

In article <1992Nov13.105501.27446@Cadence.COM> mas@Cadence.COM (Masud Khan) writes:

   From: mas@Cadence.COM (Masud Khan)
   Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
   Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:55:01 GMT

   PE have been on the NOI tip from day one, when I first heard 
   Bum Rush and became aware of PE I really  did think they were
   Muslims and I thought the NOI were Muslims. Now I think NOI
   stands for Nation of Infidels. and PE although I love thier
   music I think they are Hypocrites and are full of shit just like
   5%, BN's, Ansars etc.. White man is the devil and all that
   but PE are down with white "devils" like U2 Sisters of Mercy
   and Anthrax they're asses are ownned by Jews (Def Jam) and
   Chuck wears a Crucifix, and Flavor smokes dope and drinks Buds.

   "Anti semetic but who ownes your company" All Terrain Infidel Killers (A.T.I.K)

So, if they were real Muslims, would it be cool if they were *really*
anti-Semitic ?

Nobody can have it both ways. I understand what you're trying to point
out, but if someone isn't being all of the asshole that their
half-baked ideology says they *should* be, well, the rest of us can
breathe a little easier. I don't care how "authentic" the feelings are
for racism, it's just bad no matter what.

   Remember Elijah was half white so he has the devils blood running
   through his veins and as a result has mislead many of the Brothers
   and Sisters.

What does it have to do with "devil's blood" ? Maybe he was just
blinded by hate. You say that Islam is a universal religion, so how
can label whites "devils" (as you have here) and still include them in
Islam ?
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: controversy + movies
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:50:04 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1e8ovkINNa5d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, jms38@po.CWRU.Edu (Jason M. Snyder) writes:
>
>	I recently inquired as to whether or not the movie: "Malcolm X"
>will provoke hostility.  I'd like to clarify.  
> 	When the movie "Juice" came out, I went to go see it.  At the door
>to the theater, I was frisked by two armed guards along with the rest of
>the patrons.  Why should anyone have to go to a movie and sit in the
>theater in fear.  NOTE:  I realize that these reactions happen in a lot of
>controversial movies.  I am no trying to imply that the violence does not
>cross racial boundaries in movie content or production.  What I am trying
>to say is that, Spike Lee is known for his controversial messages in
>movies.  Do you think that He will thwart the life of Malcolm in order to
>provoke controversy? 
> 
>                   Elevate your mind, 
>             Free your soul.                   Peace, j
>

Thank you for clearing that up somewhat, cause before you did, that statement
sounded quite...ANYWAY...

I don't think Spike is trying to do anything more than educate people on
Malcolm X's life and what he believed in with this movie.  As far as frisking
people, its hard to name too many places where black people gather in large
numbers in a closed gathering place.  Its also a bullshit excuse to frisk
people.  I have been frisked goingg to movie theaters that were not populated
predominately by backs, yet other people I know have never been frissked when
going to the same movie theater, but I think this is a whole different subject
altogether...

 
K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
From: Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: The Source
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:36:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I can't find The Source ANYWHERE in NH!
Help me out.

5000
-LX
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