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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Misleading Rec. Letters
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:39:04 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug29.034853.7968@utdallas.edu>, kmldorf@utdallas.edu (George Kimeldorf) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.194336.26817@eng.umd.edu> anonymous in College Park writes:
> >
> >I'm currently a Master's student and will be applying to several
> >other Universities for the PhD program.  I'm concerned about getting 
> >a letter of recommendation from my advisor.  I've heard instances
> >where Professors have wanted so badly to keep their current
> >students that they have knowingly given bad recommendations.
> 
> I've been a professor in Ph.D.-granting departments for over two decades
> and I've never heard of this happening.  Perhaps I'm being naive, but I
> suspect such occurrences would be exceedingly rare.  Have you actually
> heard of such instances or have your merely heard of students' fears
> or suspicions that such things could occur?

   I would also guess that this is exceedingly rare.  However, I
have heard rumors to this effect.  I talked to the chairman of
our department of this and he feels this is unethical.  One
man's (or woman's) wrong may be someone else's OK.  For
example, one person told me of how some schools he had wanted
to teach at, and who had expressed some interest in having him,
when they received information on him, including a recommendation
from his advisor, then he heard nothing more from these schools.

   Obviously, while many professors would probably never do
such a thing, the mechanism is there to do it.  Since recommendations
which are waived are the norm, and common wisdom says that
those that aren't are not worth as much as those that are,
I have to wonder.  After all, what does prevent this from
happening?   If you are a master's student, and you have
done no research, there is no reason for a prof. to do so.  However,
if you have been doing work, then it may be possible.  

   Anyway, I suppose I am available at my e-mail address since
it seems that the anonymous person is at Maryland, and coincidentally,
so am I.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: totty@flute.cs.uiuc.edu (Brian Totty)
Subject: ??? ETS/GRE Address ??? (was: How long are GRE scores valid?)
Organization: Picasso Group, DCS, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:46:50 GMT

	Could some kind soul email me the address of ETS, or whoever
	administers the GRE.  I want to see if they still have my old GRE
	scores, and if so, get a copy.

   /                       Brian Totty             o o
  /__  __  o     Department of Computer Science     o  
 /  / /   /          1304 W. Springfield Ave       \_/  "We have corn in
/__/ /   /               Urbana, IL 61801                Massachusetts too!"
                        totty@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: kmldorf@utdallas.edu (George Kimeldorf)
Subject: Re: Misleading Rec. Letters
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:48:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.194336.26817@eng.umd.edu> anonymous in College Park writes:
>
>I'm currently a Master's student and will be applying to several
>other Universities for the PhD program.  I'm concerned about getting 
>a letter of recommendation from my advisor.  I've heard instances
>where Professors have wanted so badly to keep their current
>students that they have knowingly given bad recommendations.

I've been a professor in Ph.D.-granting departments for over two decades
and I've never heard of this happening.  Perhaps I'm being naive, but I
suspect such occurrences would be exceedingly rare.  Have you actually
heard of such instances or have your merely heard of students' fears
or suspicions that such things could occur?
>


Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: 91278446@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: MSc Fin and MA/MSc Econ. Inf. Asking
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:51:17 GMT



Hi, Fellows :-)

I want to have two up-dated ranking lists, one for MSc Finance and one for 
MA/MSc Economics in US. Can someone help me?

You can post it in this broad or send me E-mail.

Thank-you for your attention!

Michael Lai
91278446@cphkvx.bitnet
91278446@cphkvx.cphk.hk
From: elisa@image.lle.rochester.edu (elisa bergslien)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Masters
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:55:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY


	I am interested in getting a Masters and then 
changing schools to get my PhD.  How difficult is it
to do this ?  Also, what are most graduate programs like?
Do you just take courses and do work in 'your' field, or
can you take other courses still.  I never got a chance 
to take any language courses in college ( I was in the
Engineering College, where not only are foreign languages
not required, it's impossible to come up with the time
to take them. ) And would very much like to devote some 
attention to learning a foreign language.

		Thanks,
			Elisa Bergslien

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From: anonymous in College Park
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Misleading Rec. Letters
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:43:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: studboy@coke.eng.umd.edu


I'm currently a Master's student and will be applying to several
other Universities for the PhD program.  I'm concerned about getting 
a letter of recommendation from my advisor.  I've heard instances
where Professors have wanted so badly to keep their current
students that they have knowingly given bad recommendations.  It is
impossible for students to realize this since they often are required
to waive the right to inspect the letter before it is sent.

I was wondering if anybody has experienced this or if there is anyway
to deal with it.  I don't want my potential admission to go down the 
drain due to a misleading recommendation letter.

Waiting for a response.........

Dave

 
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: chakrsa@eng.auburn.edu (Sanjoy  Chakraborty)
Subject: Info on Ph.D. Programs in Civil (Geotech)
Reply-To: chakrsa@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:31:11 GMT


Hi,

I hope to apply to the following schools for a Ph.D. in Civil Engg. (Geotechnical). 

1. Univ of California, Davis
2. Univ of Michigan, Ann Arbor
3. Northwestern Univ
4. Univ of Houston
5. Univ of Texas, Austin
6. Univ of Colorado, Boulder

I'm interested in the area of Soil-Dynamics, specifically, modelling dynamic soil-structure interaction for offshore/deep foundations, both theoretical and experimental. I believe that all the schools mentioned above have strong research interests in this area.

If you happen to be working in a related area at one of these schools, or at some other school, I would appreciate any information you might have to send me about the Ph.D. program; as regards faculty, current research projects etc. You could write to me direct at chakrsa@eng.auburn.edu

Thanks,

Sanjoy


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* Sanjoy Chakraborty                    | (205) 821-2269 (Home)         *
* 141 Wright St. #23                    | (205) 844-6254 (Office)       *
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From: jws7@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JEFF W SCHRAMM)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Masters
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:51:44 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Aug27.145506.161@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, elisa@image.lle.roch
ester.edu (elisa bergslien) writes:
>
>       I am interested in getting a Masters and then
>changing schools to get my PhD.  How difficult is it
>to do this ?

    It isn't that Hard but for many reasons I would not recommend it.  It may
    take you longer and cause more headaches.  Also there is a reduced chance
    for financial assistance in some cases.

 Also, what are most graduate programs like?

    Depends upon your field and the school but generally...Fewer classes, more
    work...and...more independent work.

>Do you just take courses and do work in 'your' field, or
>can you take other courses still.  I never got a chance
>to take any language courses in college ( I was in the
>Engineering College, where not only are foreign languages
>not required, it's impossible to come up with the time
>to take them. ) And would very much like to devote some
>attention to learning a foreign language.

    Not a huge Problem, You can take language classes like an undergrad in
    many schools.


    Jeff Schramm  Lehigh Univ. History MA student.


>



>               Thanks,
>                       Elisa Bergslien
>
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>
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 10:12:02 EDT
From: <IO11412@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Scientists as Programmers (was Re: Small Language Wanted)
 <1992Aug31.144045.11416@hubcap.clemson.edu>
 <1992Aug31.184805.10913@texhrc.uucp>
 <1992Sep1.000910.16548@cis.ohio-state.edu>
 <PCG.92Sep1164927@aberdb.aber.ac.uk>

Here is the list of non-CS courses that are required for a B.A. in CS at the
University of Maine:
Economics: Micro- and Macro-
English: College Comp. and Tech. Writing
Statistics
Math: Through Calculus III
Interpersonal Communication
15 Credits in Humanities
12 Credits in Social Sciences
9 Credits from different distibution lists (Writing Intensive, Foreign-Interna-
tional Perspective, etc).
+ A concentration (about 24-30 credits) in Math, El. Engg., Business Adm., or
Economics.
At least 120 credit hours
At least 72 credit hours outside of the major

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Dragomir
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: danlip@cco.caltech.edu (Daniel Adam Lipofsky)
Subject: Re: Co-Ed Rooming - Help Request
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:55:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.183656.15196@husc3.harvard.edu> silvers3@husc10.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:
>I am currently working as part of a group that is trying to convince the
>administration of Harvard College to permit co-educational rooming groups.
>What this means is what it appears to mean  - men and women living in the
>same suite. Some people will probably think that this is a dumb idea (and
>they may be right, but that's not the point right now). What I would like
>from the net is information from people about what types of rooming groups
>are permitted at their schools.
>
>The types of dorms and residences at different colleges (or even at the
>same college) vary, so I would also appreciate any information about the
>nature of the suites/apartments/whatever (ie, number of bedrooms, whether
>they are considereed to be separate rooms or part of a single suite, whether
>they have locks on the doors, number and locations of bathrooms, etc;). If
>the administration or students have particularly strong feelings about the
>issue, I would also be interested in hearing about them.
>
>Thanks for any help you can offer!

The Caltech administration makes no restrictions about Co-Ed living
arrangements, and I have several friends who live in co-ed doubles.
Most of the residences are built like traditional dorms (although there
are a few converted single family residences with 4 to 8 students each).
The on campus dorms are student controlled, and a few of them may enforce
restrictions on living arrangements.  There is generally one bathroom and
one shower room (with individual stalls) per hallway (5 to 15 people).
Since most of the dorms were built when Caltech was all-male, there
are only facilities for one sex, and therefore things tend to be co-ed
for convienence.

-- DanLip
-- 
"The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up.  No-one knows
why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out."
	--Terry Pratchett, _Wyrd_Sisters_
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: jszydlik@icaen.uiowa.edu (James John Szydlik)
Subject: Address at Virginia Commonwealth
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:11:03 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

Could anyone who knows the e-mail address for Virginia Commonwealth
please send it to me at jszydlik@icaen.uiowa.edu.
Also if you know Jennifer Isenhour at MCV please send her address as well.
Thanks.
Jim (for Paige Novak)

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Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
From: stdkap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu (Dietrich Kappe)
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Organization: Center for Population Economics
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:28:43 GMT

In article <Btt8p8.Aox@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:

   Kent Sandvik (Hacker) writes
   > At least such persons should learn *how to change* the programming world
   > to something better. We are stuck in the big mess of ancient languages,
   > and there's certainly finally time for something better.

   I think it's high time to start teaching objective programming where  
   reusability is stressed.  Often programs are not written from scratch but  
   built from parts of other programs and objective programming stresses  
   this.  Objective programming is also where a lot of programming is headed  
   now.

Machine --> Assembler --> Macro Assembler --> High Level --> Structured

Now you think the next logical step is:

Structured/Modular --> Object Oriented

Is this right?

I'm not so sure that OO is the next right step. If understandability
and reusability are important criterion, might I suggest that
"Literate Programming", ala Donald E. Knuth, might be a better choice.

You can still write terrible code with any language out there. Educate
the programer, not the language.

--

---
Dietrich Kappe
kap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu
Center for Population Economics
Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.grad
From: aag8924@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Asif  Ahmed)
Subject: MeHarry Medical College, Nashville
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:21:03 GMT

My brother is coming to MeHarry Medical College at
Nashville, TN on a rather very short notice.  He
needs a little help with locating a place to live.
If you are from Nashville area and can help him
please send me an email at a-ahmed@uiuc.edu.

Thanks,

Asif
a-ahmed@uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: Help/Info On Film Schools
Originator: gds@oahu.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: too funky
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 23:49:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.023806.22049@cs.ucf.edu> Ben with no Email address :- writes:
>In article <25AUG199215094380@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> edsum02@venus.lerc.nasa.gov
>(Cassondra Pope) writes:
>>I am desperately seeking some help on graduate level film schools. I'll be
>receiving a BS in Math and in June 1993, I'll be receiving a BS in ME.I realize
>>that this is a highly unusual background for a potential filmmaker, but I am
>>certain that film is were I want to be. 
>My only question is WHY are you getting these other two degrees (LEFT-BRAINED
>ones at that)?

Perhaps she wants to have something to fall back on in case she isn't
able to get a film career going?  It's a lot harder (you must realize
this, being a film major yourself) to get a film career going than an
engineering or science career, because there are far more people
trying for jobs in the film industry than there are positions
available.

Also, I'm not sure film (or any other entertainment field) is strictly
a right-brain field.  It seems to me one must have a fair amount of
analytical skills to operate film equipment, or to do lighting.  I
*know* that it takes some analytical skills to properly operate sound
equipment.

--gregbo
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From: bevan@cs.man.ac.uk (Stephen J Bevan)
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:27:08 GMT
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester
In-reply-to: jeffo@uiuc.edu's message of 30 Aug 92 18:58:19 GMT

In article <Btt8p8.Aox@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
   I think it's high time to start teaching objective programming where  
   reusability is stressed.  Often programs are not written from scratch but  
   built from parts of other programs and objective programming stresses  
   this.  Objective programming is also where a lot of programming is headed  
   now.

"objective" programming was _new_ in the late 60s/early 70s.
Reusability has been stressed for decades, and it doesn't require an
"objective" language.

bevan
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: markb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky)
Subject: Re: move-in dates
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:04:04 GMT

In article <199223.1690.3844@channel1> "rick osterberg" <rick.osterberg@channel1.com> writes:
>I'm curious - are there ANY colleges with a move-in date AFTER
>Harvard's? I'm going to be a freshman, and we move in on September 12,
>with classes starting September 21. Nearly all of my friends leave next
>week for school. BTW - anyone else going to be a crimson frosh?
>-rick
>---
>  SLMR 2.0   
>--
>Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
>


Yes, Northwestern dosn't move in until the 13th of September and U of
Chicago doesn't start until mid October.
From: mcline@terapin.com (Matthew Cline)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: The Big Lie (PC)
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:05:20 GMT
Organization: BBS


        It seems to me that PC does exist, but that the conservatives have
taken it and blown it up all out of porportion.  For instance, I've been a
student at Berkeley High for four years, and while there I have seen some PC
like stifeling (sp?), but it happens very infrequently.  However, if you where
to ask a conservative about Berkeley high, he'd probably think that there was a
lot of PC at Berkeley high.  A good example of PC that I've heard of is a
college that tried to (or did) pass an ordinance that forbade students from
saying phrases like "Call a spade a spade" or "A chink in his armor", because,
taken out of contect, words in those phrases might be taken to be offensive. 
In my opinion, something like that is PC and should be prevented. (But again
let me state that mosts discuscions (sp?) on PC are blown way out of
proportion.)

Matthew Cline
mcline@terapin.com
From: DURFLING@AC.GRIN.EDU (Finagle, etc. Durflinger,Edward M)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: (none)
Date: 2 Sep 1992 13:39:52 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Subj: HELP FIND TAMMY ZYWICKI

__________________________________
I am posting the following to soc.women and some other newsgroups becuase 
this matter of all matters should concern women and people who wish the 
world to be a safer place.
--durfling@ac.grin.edu
_________________________________________________________
WE NEED YOUR HELP.
	
	We are friends of Tammy Zywicki, a Grinnell College Senior who 
disappeared Sunday, August 23, around 1:00 pm.  Tammy was travelling from 
Chicago to Grinnell, Iowa, on Interstate 80 when apparently she experienced 
car trouble and stopped at the side of the road somewhere near La Salle, 
Illinois.  She was last seen at her car being assisted by a person or 
persons and a semi trailer was parked ahead of her car.

	When Tammy left Chicago, she was wearing dark shorts and a white 
T-shirt with the word "PRIVATE'" (accent over the 'E') printed on it.  
She is 5'2", 120 lbs, blond hair, green eyes, b. 3-13-71, and was wearing 
contact lenses.

	Recently a body of a woman resembling Tammy but with auburn hair 
was found in a ditch close to Springfield, MO.  Authorities have not 
confirmed the identity of this woman as Tammy, but it is know that she was 
wearing clothing that Tammy was also known to wear. If this woman is not 
Tammy, she could be the victim of a serial killer that also was involved in 
Tammy's disappearance.

	You can help Tammy and us by distributing this information as 
widely as possible. If anyone has any information about either of these 
cases, you may either email me at DURFLING@AC.GRIN.EDU or call the Illinois 
Police Department at (815)224-1150. 

Thank You,
The Grinnell Community
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
From: wel2@decoy.uucp (25439-lee)
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Organization: Il Vino Confuso
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:29:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.200716.5827@src.umd.edu> tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
>	:
>	:
>Besides, I have great expectations that any MIT grad should be able
>to learn C in 1-2 days.
>
>-Thomas

A Rutgers man myself, I picked up PL/1 in a day %-)
	...course I already knew Fortrash and Algol

Winston Lee
wel2@decoy.cc.bellcore.com
From: perry1@husc9.harvard.edu (Alexis Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: SUNY Albany
Keywords: suny albany computer mail sex
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:19:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep1.021952.15264
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Aug31.203033.23085@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> tjoa@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Tjoa) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone could help me locate accounts at SUNY Albany.
>I checked the big address file that's occasionally posted here by MK,
>but I didn't see any entry for Albany...  If you can help, drop me a line.
>
>
>-Richard
>tjoa@cory.berkeley.edu

 Thanx for asking. Post it, please, please PLEEEEZ!!!

Sorry for being a "me-too"-er.

Alexis
perry1@husc.harvard.edu
From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Post Doctoral positions in Geography (need info)
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:15:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas Instruments

Hi,

I would appreciate information on US universities that offer post doctoral
research opportunities in Geography.

Thanks

- Vishal

vishal@ra.csc.ti.com
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Date: 25 Aug 92 03:31:44 GMT
Followup-To: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
Organization: Apple

In article <01050166.bqhosr@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us>,
joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us (Joseph Nathan Hall) wrote:
> 'Nuff said.  My final observation is that no matter where you go to school,
> you probably won't find a class that will *really* help you write
> Macintosh software.  Nor will you find a class that will get you a job at 
> Apple or Microsoft et al. when you've graduated.  For that, you need an "in,"
> which normally has nothing to do with where you go to school.

I would nearly agree on all that, with the exception of Uni of Michigan
types that you find everywhere here at Apple :-). Speak about a conspiracy
taking over this company.

Cheers,
Kent
---
"George, sorry but I do look much better in my running shorts than you and
Bill..."