HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: matti@my.sm.luth.se (Matti Larborn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Short Nuntius/NewsWatcher review
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:11:34 GMT
Organization: Lule} University
X-Xxdate: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12: 11:38 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d6

Someone asked me to compare Nuntius and NewsWatcher and
write a short review. Here it comes, but I havn't done
so much work with it so there is a lot of questions you
could ask. If you have questions about Nuntius or
NewsWatcher, please do not post directly to me. If you
post in this group I may answer if I can.

NewsWatcher 1.3d5 is a News reader that reminds quite
much of the Unix nn (no News). Of course you don't write
one letter commands to the NewsWatcher, but instead you
use menus to subscribe, post articles etc. NewsWatcher
uses a little of the special Mac features that is of use
in a News reading program (folders: not used, "triangles"
to hide/show info: used in a open News group). There is
a lot of built in functions (which i did not test).

Nuntius 1.1.1d6 is a News reader where the graphical
possibilities of the Mac user interface is more used.
It uses folders when showing the all news groups list,
and "triangles" to hide articles if you don't want to
see them. You subscribe to groups by dragging and
dropping. Nuntius is claimed to be slow, but as far as
I could see there was no significant difference.

Facts:

			NewsWatcher				Nuntius
Size:		118K					672K
Version:	1.3d5					1.1.1d6

Startup:	Reads all groups from	Works for a while,
			the server. Shows new	why-don't know. Shows
			groups if any.			your groups window and
			Marks groups updated	marks groups updated
			with numbers.			since last use with a
									black dot.
									
Subscibing: Mark group and select	Drag group into your
			subscribe in menu.		groups window and drop.
			
Opening a group without unread
articles:	An alert is displayed.	Shows an empty window.

Extracting binhexed binaries from
articles:	No.						Yes.

Bombs:		Once when trying to		None so far.
			read an article.
			
I am sure that the NewsWatcher will increase in strength
as new versions come out, but so far Nuntius seems to bee
the (in my opinion) best freeware News reader available by
now.

	1991-08-14
	
	Matti Larborn, Lule}, Sweden
From: Paul.Conaway@p22.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Conaway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Canvas 3.0 -> 3.0.1 updater?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 00:25:55 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.22 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

On 8/7/92, Daniel Friedan writes: 

  DF> Is there an updater that takes Canvas 3.0 to 3.0.1 or higher?  The
  DF> 3.0.3 and 3.0.4 updaters I've seen in the archives all require
  DF> starting
  DF> with 3.0.1 or higher.
  DF> thanks for any information,
  DF> Daniel Friedan       <friedan@raunvis.hi.is>
 
   This is the first I have heard of any upgrades above 3.0. Which I currently
have. What do the 3.0.3 and 3.0.4 upgrades fix or inhance? I wonder if it
would solve some of my problems. Any information would be helpful. Thanks

Paul


--  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding)
Subject: Re: boss!  de binhex, de binhex ...
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:38:19 GMT

In article <pgjypfl@rpi.edu> johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.174455.3883@spock.retix.com> tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding) writes:
>>I use a prog called Downline.  You can configure it to sit around
>>polling a specific folder (your download folder).  When it finds a
>>stuffed, binhex'd or packed file, it will expand them (optionally into
>>individual folders and optionally delete the originals).
>>I'm not sure where it is just now, but check archie.
>>P.S., I use it under 6.0.7 - not sure if its ok for 7.
>
>Downline works fine under System 7.  And quite well, I might add.  Would be
>nice if it knew how to uncompact, though.
>
Yes, I agree.  For my use, this is really its only lack - I like its
ability to sit around like a daemon waiting for files to turn up in its
directory.
TOny.

-- 
=============================================================
What a waste it is to lose one's mind.  Or not to have a mind
is being very wasteful.  How true that is.
		-- Vice President Dan Quayle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding)
Subject: color quickdraw?
Organization: Retix, Santa Monica CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:34:07 GMT

Thanks again to all who helped track down a sys 7 INITPicker and _Launch
replacement for me.  I've now got Finder Palette 1.0 - BUT I DON'T HAVE
COLOR QUICKDRAW!
Can anyone point out where on the archives it is? I've tried archie to
no avail. (Is it share/free ware?)

Thanks
TOny.

-- 

==================================================================
Q:	What is the difference between LA and yoghurt?
A:	One is cultured...
From: drc@claris.com (Dennis Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Fullwrite Professional
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:18:08 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation, Santa Clara CA

erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold) writes:

>> 
>> Since the Borland/A-T acquisition was technically a merger, I understand
>> we weren't allowed to sell off assets, for tax reasons. Dang shame,
>> though.
>> 
>> --Cy--
>> cy@borland.com

>	Didn't Borland sell dBase/Mac back to the original developers?  Or was 
>that done by Ashton-Tate pre-merger?  In any case if you aren't allowed to SELL 
Ashton-Tate licensed (I don't think that they relinquished everything) the
rights to dBASE Mac to New Era Software of Miami, FL (now part of Tactic
Software).  The original developers were DigiCorp of Salt Lake City, UT.
One of the original developers was very briefly affiliated with New Era.

>FullWrite and FullImpact and if Borland really doesn't plan to do anything with 
>them, is ther any chance of convincing the corporate types to GIVE them away? 
>i.e. to release the programs and all source into the public domain so that 
>others can upgrade or update them?  This would buy Borland a lot of goodwill 
>though admittedly mainly in a market they've abandoned.  My guess is this ought 
>to be a no-loss proposition for Borland unless they're selling a lot more of 
>those $39.95 FullWrites than I think.  My impression is that what's still being 
>sold is mainly old dealer stock and that Borland's not even manufacturing new 
>copies.

If that were true, why hasn't Borland released the Reflex for the Mac or
Mac Turbo Pascal products into the public domain?  It would be nice if they
did all these things; however, it is virtually unheard of for a publicly
traded corporation to do such a thing.  Usually they feel (and I would tend
to think that they're correct) that portions of the source contain technology
that is part of their advantage in the competitive marketplace.  If they
were to relinquish the rights to the package (non-source release), then they
might be embarassed later on if they reenter the marketplace -- corporations
suffer from FUD at least as much as individuals.

-- 
Dennis Cohen
Claris Corp.
 ****************************************************
Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_!
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13299 sci.psychology:3491 sci.cognitive:321 bionet.software:1561
From: ccusekh@prism.gatech.EDU (Kevin Hodge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,sci.psychology,sci.cognitive,bionet.software
Subject: Re: Tachistoscopic Software
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:49:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <92226.145022PSYANAG@BYUVM.BITNET> PSYANAG@BYUVM.BITNET writes:
>I am, once again, looking for Software on which to do Selective
>Attention research.  It must be able to present color images
>and measure reaction times.  It may be Mac or IBM compatable,
>commercial or otherwise.
>

Take a look at Walter Schneider's Micro Experimental Laboratory (MEL).
MEL is an integrated system that provides tools to code your experiment,
run the experiment, collect and store data, and analyze data.  It is quite
powerful and runs on IBM-PC compatibles.  Contact Psychological Software
Tools, Inc. for product information.  Also, I believe they have a demo they
will send to you.  Their address is 

     511 Bevington Road 
     Pittsburgh, PA 15221
     phone: (412) 244-1908

Here's a couple of descriptive type references:

Schneider, W. (1988). Micro Experimental Laboratory:  An Integrated system
    for IBM PC compatibles.  _Behavior Research Methods, Instruments, &
    Computers_, _20_, 206-217.     

Schneider, W. (1989). Enhancing a standard experiment delivery system (MEL)
    for advanced psychological experimentation.  _Behavior Research Methods,
    Instruments, & Computers, _21_(2), 240-244.

They also provide a library of sample experiments which are based on a 
number of classic paradigms (e.g., Sternberg task, simple reaction time,
mental rotation, category search, etc.) as well as a tutorial.

I have no interest in Psychological Software Tools but I use the product
and am quite satisfied with it.
-- 
Kevin A. Hodge                |   "I'll show you a life of the mind!"
Engineering Psychology        |            Madman Mundt
Georgia Tech                  |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Baxevanis@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (Andy)
Subject: BetterWriters printer driver
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: NIH
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:38:52 GMT

Just received some promotional material from GDT Softworks for a product
called BetterWriters, which is intended to replace the standard drivers
for most QuickDraw printers, giving greater control over output and better
quality output.  Does anyone have any experience with this product?  Let
me know what you think.

Thanks in advance!

Andy

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Andy Baxevanis
NCI/NIH, Bethesda, MD
Baxevanis@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
From: ICH530@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Help! Stuffit Lite Problems
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:18:19 GMT
 <fred-mckenzie-120892175941@128.159.169.79>
 <1992Aug13.090144.21947@corax.udac.uu.se>
Organization: KFA  Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <1992Aug13.090144.21947@corax.udac.uu.se>, olle@astro.uu.se (Olof
Morell) says:
>
>In article <fred-mckenzie-120892175941@128.159.169.79>,
>fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) writes:
>|> In article <1992Aug12.170049.29789@trantor.harris-atd.com>,
>|> rcarvin@x102a.ess.harris.com (carvin robert 60184) wrote:
>|> > I have fetched Stuffit Lite from several sources via anonymous ftp and
>|> > run into the a problem each time.
>
>|> When I downloaded Stuffit Lite, I was successful the first time.  I don't
>|> remember where I got it, but I don't think that is your problem.
>|>
>|> If you download a .HQX file, you should be using ascii format, which is
>|> usually the default.  Unless you use a program like Fetch, you will need
>|> BinHex version 4 to decode .HQX files.  I believe Stuffit 1.5 uses BinHex
>|> version 5 conversion, which is normally used to convert a binary file that
>|> was uploaded with MacBinary.
>
>I don't think so. StuffIt Classic un-binhexed my copy of Lite successfully,
>your process should work just fine. Seems weird.
>
>Have you tried running something like Norton Disk Doctor on your hard disk ?
>
>*** Olle ***
>----------------------------------------------------------------------

That's the key to the problem!  I've had the same trouble with StuffitLite
as Robert, and used Fetch as Fred suggested.  It turned out that a bundle
bit was missing or not set (whatever that might be).  Once that was
fixed and the desktop rebuilt StuffitLite worked fine!

Harald S. Poelchau
Forschungszentrum Juelich (KFA)
Germany
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13195 comp.sys.mac.misc:14723
From: bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Sys 7 versions of sys 6 apps?
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:43:00 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Aug12.185838.4159@spock.retix.com> tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding) writes:
>One is INITPicker (for selecting and changing the order of init loading
>at boot time), the other is Launch (an icon dock for launching progs).

Try Extensions Manager on ftp.apple.com.  Though sometimes it's *very slow*
(Anyone else notice this?)

Aliases sound remove the need for Launch.  Check out The AliasBOSS, a very
useful program which will scan drives for files of type APPL (or anything else)
and create aliases for them, putting them anywhere you want.

(The AliasBOSS was on mac.binaries awhile ago, and is probably on sumex).

later,
bobo
bowman@reed.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: good@pixar.com (Remember, it is better to look good than to feel good.)
Subject: Re: CPUseless???
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 03:10:34 GMT


I beta tested CPU, so figure whatever bias you want.  I can say that when,
after a long trip out of town, my beta copy timed out and committed suicide,
I really missed it.  I agree that the battery life indication still needs work,
but since I have two batteries it doesn't matter much: I can always wait for
the system to give the "reserve power" warning and then make the switch.

What I like is that I have control over the hard drive, can disable my CAPS LOCK
key, set how the processor rests, use the LCD screen saver, and all with one
CDEV instead of a raft of FKEYs and Extensions.  It helped me conserve power so
well on my 170 that I set records during SIGGRAPH for time between charges.  I
also take my 'Book into lots of different environments, so the multiple "sets"
of settings is right handy for me.

CPU may have more features than you'll ever use, but it makes it easy to turn
them off, and then you never have to mess with them if you don't want to.  I
think it's a pretty nifty widget, and I wouldn't let the confused battery meter
deter me from buying it, knowing what I know now.  They'll get those power
curves figured out eventually.

		--Craig
-- 
	good@pixar.com
-
Vote for a change this fall! 
Vote all those Liberal Tax-N-Spendocrats out of Congress!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu (william a dowling)
Subject: Typing Tutor for the mac?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:40:21 GMT

Does anybody know of a typing tutor  program ie. a program that teaches you to 
type?  Something that stpes you through keylayouts and stuff like that.
I really need one for a plus running 6.0.4 but wiould be interested anything
you can think of (just give me a reason to make her upgrade) !:*)
Thanks to the net agian.
-- 
My submissions are not necessarily thoes of my employer, but the ought to be.
Drew Dowling                        CLEMSON UNIVERSITY 
dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu                  SC                                69
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: info wanted on Insigna Win 3.1 emulation
From: Marco Simionato <simion@iveuncc.unive.it>
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:11:20 +0100
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Venezia
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2Lines: 16

Sorry for any cross-posting.

If anybody has used Insigna - only rumored or annonced - Windows 3.1
emulation, I would like to know the following:

i)  is it a new product or just DOS 5 and Win 3.1 running on top of
SoftAT?
ii) if it is a new product, does it give significative improvements over
    loading Windows on top of SoftAT - hardly acceptable on a FX?
iii) how is it supposed to perform on a PowerBook 170 (68030 25Mhz +
co-proc.)
     with, say, 8 megs?
	 
Any help appreciated. PLEASE REPLY DIRECTLY.

Marco Simionato
From: bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Is there a MacTCP-based Archie client??
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:21:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: St. Mary's College of Maryland

In article <futor-210892092243@chinacat.llnl.gov> futor@llnl.gov (randy j
futor) writes:
>Me, too!  I keep meaning to ask Mr XferIt, Steve Falkenburg, if he would
>consider coding up such a beastie with XferIt's exceptionally intuitive
>look-n-feel ( nb:  This is *not* sarcasm!  I like XferIt. ).
>
>__
>\/  -+-  randy  -+-  all generalizations are flawed  -+-  futor@llnl.gov
>

Me three!
From: tlh@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: How to convert: KAPS-TEXT => lower case
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:23:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecl.1992Aug13.082301.4749
Organization: Spueli Land

I need a utility that can convert Text written in
kapitalized letters (most headers are like that after
scanning and OCR) into lower case (or even better,
lower case for everything but the first letters of 
a word). In Word 5.0 I wasn't even able to change 
everything in lower case (only to change everything
in Kaps works). Maybe a hint whether an other word-
processor can do the job would help, too.

Thanks Tom
From: collin@angelo.amd.com (Collin K. Ong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: In Control vs Daymaker?
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:55:23 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

Pete Kelly <pfkelly@bnr.ca> writes:

>Re: In Control vs Daymaker?

>Before commit to *anything*, be sure to take a look at v 2.0 of
>ThoughtPattern due out in a month or so.  Saw it at MacWorld just down
>the aisle from the DayMaker and In Control demos and it convinced me to
>wait for it.

Could you tell us some details of what it has?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Look & Feel
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<D88-JWA.92Aug12220307@dront.nada.kth.se>
	<mwalker-120892170321@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
	<1992Aug12.230713.14907@hellgate.utah.edu>
	<mwalker-130892144504@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:02:03 GMT

> mwalker@novell.com (Mel Walker) writes:

   I wouldn't want to have to license the quicksort algorithm from whoever
   held the patent. I'm sure, however, that if I held the patent, I would want
   people to license it from me. Now, I could hardly charge a whole lot, so I
   would have to keep the fees down, otherwise people would use heapsort or
   something.

The way patents are going these days; just "sorting" in general
might infringe on some of the "blanket" patents; and probably
the same guy who patented quicksort patented heapsort as well.

   Let's look at the position of sorting algorithms simply being tools, like
   hammers. However, suppose I invent a better hammer. Let's assume that it is
   significantly different from previous hammers in that I can pound in nails
   much faster, using less energy than previous hammers. This would seem to be

Ah, but you hammer still has a shaft, hasn't it ? You'd have to
LICENSE the usage of a shaft from the previous hammer patentee.
Not to mention that he's gotten so much money from his hammer shaft
licensing that he's in bahamas on vaccation the next 6 months; you'll
just have to wait.

Look at a car. Look at a computer program. Let's say the car has
100,000 parts, most of them wither patented, or too simple to patent.
Let's say the program has 1,000,000 lines of code - 10 lines of code
might be enough to implement a simple "algorithm" so it has 100,000
"algorithms". Now, people expect the program to be written and tested
by 5 persons for half a year, costing $500,000, while the car requires
six years, 300 people and costs $2,000,000,000 to design.

A good hacker could probably crank out the equivalent computer program
alone in two months, minus some QC and unneeded features ("Make Rebus.")

I wonder why there's no shareware cars?

Do you want computer programs to take as much time and effort to
design, research patents, and license patents, and cost as much,
and take as long, as making a car?

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
From: Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: CPUseless???
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:57:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Aug19.225721.25420
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0d55@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Aug19.081757.7231@morrow.stanford.edu>
HK.MLR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark Rogowsky) writes:

> According to CPU (Connectix Powerbook Utilities), I have 22 minutes
> of battery left. The only problem is that I've had 22 minutes of
> battery left for about half an hour. Since then I've run an
> Autodobuler scan and a full Disinfectant run. No problems, no
> battery reduction either.
> 
> I got CPU from a friend (not pirated, he gave me the whole package)
> and am glad I didn't buy it. It is nice to be able to customize some
> settings but the whole thing seems awfully cumbersome and -- more
> importantly -- utterly useless.
> 
> It's clock is too far over to the left  to appear in almost any
> application (while SuperClock did just fine before) and you can't
> use it with SuperClock because it pushes SC even farther left.
> 
> This does not leave me impressed. Nor do the additional crashes I've
> experienced since installing CPU. Maybe next time? Maybe GUM? Who
> knows but the guy who gave me CPU did it the same day he lunched
> with Guy (as in Kawasaki, as is Guy's Utilities for Macintosh).
> 
> More posting to follow as I continue my real-life CPU test. Also
> more details on why I don't like the user interface of it.
> 
> Mark Rogowsky
> rogo@forsythe.stanford.edu

I've got to disagree with this post on a general level. I have been
using CPU since MacWorld in Boston and have been quite satisfied with
it. I called them about the rapid decrease in the time remaining
indicator. They acknowledged it to be a problem and are working on a
fix which will be mailed to all REGISTERED users for no charge. 

Every other aspect of the package has worked as advertised and I find
it indespensible since I use my Powerbook 170 in two different office
settings as well as at home and travelling. It is simply a matter of
selecting the CPU setting from a menu to change all the defaults for my
Powerbook. I like that convenience. (I never could get QuickKeys 2 to
actually complete a whole sequence of events to do what CPU does
seamlessly).

BTW, the clock is just fine and doesn't interfere with any other items
in the menu. I don't have a single program that has any problem
displaying the clock. Perhaps you shouldchange the font and size? (I
use Palatino 12 pt.)

Bob Gross
bob.gross@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: max@eskimo.celestial.com (Max Pinton)
Subject: Re: What is "compact virtual 3.0" ?
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:13:53 GMT

heyes@dadev.cebaf.gov (Graham Heyes) writes:
: I am thinking about buying a 68030 accelerator card,
: the company selling it are tryining to sell sell me
: "compact virtual 3.0" for $79 as part of the package.
: They tell me that it costs over $100 when bought
: seperately. 
: 
: What is "compact virtual 3.0" ? 
:

	I'm using Compact Virtual on an SE with a Mobius FPD and 030
accelerator with 16 megs, and I've been pretty happy. Note, though, that if
you use PageMaker you have to use the Apple printer driver (option-print),
not Aldus's, or your fonts won't download.

	This, of course, is just another reason to use QuarkXPress.
From: neils@tafe.sa.edu.au (Neil Strong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: How to convert: KAPS-TEXT => lower case
Date: 16 Aug 92 12:44:23 GMT

tlh@ecl.psu.edu writes:

>I need a utility that can convert Text written in
>............. Maybe a hint whether an other word-
>processor can do the job would help, too.

>Thanks Tom

--------------------------------------------

Tom -  WordPerfect 2.1 has a macro that converts Uppercase to lowecase
other than fist letter.-  Neil (neils@TAFE.SA.edu.au)