From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Repost From an ENTP
Summary: ENTP's are a breath of fresh air!  From Treon Verdery
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:31:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

Hello,

I just had to repost the following article for the new people.  I enjoy this
post immensely and Treon does an excellent job of describing an ENTP from an
ENTP's viewpoint.  I hope you enjoy it as well.

Jon

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Subject: ENTP: Loud, Proud, and having trouble finishing this post...
From: treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery)



	Hi!!!!	 (E)			Gregarious and
	Aha!     (N)			  inspired,
	Hmmm...  (T)			    the thoughtful ENTP
	WhiZzs!  (P)			      lets the project go....
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(joke eh?

I don't suppose any of the 16 personality permutations of the MB system really
has it in the bag.  My existence as an ENTP has certainly had its problems.  

'Problems' themselves are sometimes defined within one's
MB type.  Disappointments I've incurred while poking at 
EasyBigMoneyFunThoughts are very different from the disappointments of a 
SafetyProblemMoralRageLoneliness trip.  

Big problems are perceived differently too.  I read in a book (by either a 
Myers or a Briggs; don't remember) that a large majority of
professors and people with advanced degrees (Ph.D.s) are INTJ types,
but 2/3 of society is either Extroverted and/or Sensory .  Even though 
you may be surrounded by a sea of INTXs at school, the book says these 
people make up about ~11% of the population.

Similarly, INTJ types are called upon, because of their position in our
society, to formulate plans for social stability and improvement.  As an 
Environmental studies major I noticed my professors saying over and
over again, "We must each look at our personal use of the environment,
mull it over, and realize that a course of extreme thriftiness is the
only morally correct course.  We must stand apart from society and 
eschew materialism":  

Translation: think a lot, and be an ascetic.
Whether or not this advice is good is almost beside the point, 
Ascetics preach asceticism for the masses.

I never once heard a professor say anything like, "beer and bowling are 
intensely fun to scads of people!  We need more intensely fun things like 
this with low resource ezpenditure and communal equipment!", "Remove the 
emphasis from success=money=posessions to success=social standing
at arbitrary sensual thing"

Hmm... where was I...  biases...each XXXX type comes with biases
that define problems at the personal social, and global levels.
Obvious - but easy to forget when solving or pontificating on the
Problems...


Warning!!!
Divisive and inflammatory pun approaching!
J people may experience judgemental processes that trigger flaming!
F people likely to feel hurt!

	FJ people are filled with intense emotions of judgement.  
	T.P. people just wipe that shit away... ;-)



I apologize!!!

"More Fun Now!" - Armbands and insignia available upon request 


-treon

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Now, if you're just dying to know what INFJ stands for, be brave, e-mail me,
and I'll send you some information.  It WILL be worth the inquiry, I think.

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