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From: slzw0@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Look !  Stupid Taiwanese !!
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:33:08 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

adamy@milton.u.washington.edu writes:

>From: adamy@milton.u.washington.edu (Erh-Chun Yeh)
>Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:40:13 GMT
>Organization: University of Washington
>Lines: 25

>slzw0@cc.usu.edu writes:

>>From: mtl@cs.brown.edu (Ming-Tsung Lu), Brown Computer Science
Dept.

>>>We Taiwanese may be stupid, but we know how to spell plane.
It's
>>>PLANE, not PLAIN.
>>>Don't worry, Dan doesn't spell very well either.
>>>Do you get that? !


>>Mr. Lu:

>>  Thank you so much for checking spell for me.
>>  I will hire you as a my spell chAcker.   :-)
>>
>I am afraid that you do not know how to use a spelling ckecker, do you?
                                                         ^
    How about yourself ?   Is this how professional spell checkers do ?
    I am smile at your ignorance. :-)

>According to my observation, you probably also need a grammar checker.
>Really, now I feel I am a little stupid. I don't even know how a smart

    No, not a little !  should be a lot.  As you can see here, you need
    a lot more study to know yourself better.

>guy looks like. Yeah, maybe a smart guy always spells wrong and perhaps
>...speaks wrong...

   Oh ye..  I may spell wrong sometimes but I never point out someone
   elses minor mistakes and make an issue for it because I am such a
   smart guy as you know well.

>A stupid guy named Adam Yeh

   Therefore, this is right.
   (Did you really put this statement for your mistakes ?)

>( I guess you were under a spell, get it?  Smart Guy?! )
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   I am anxious to listen to you about your feeling. You are extremely
   funny guy. :-))))))))))))))))) aren't you ?

   Anyway, I don't believe those mistakes are big deal to concern.
   Additionally what I want to advice to you is, paying attention
   to what the article want to say, is much more important than
   finding out spells and grammar errors. If you don't agree with
   me, welcome to find those stupid errors in the hundreds of papers
   and books for ever and ever.

   Now, here,  you need to say  one more time about yourself.

>A stupid guy named Adam Yeh

   Good :-)))

C.S. Park


From: eaeu228@orion.oac.uci.edu (Steven Wei Wu)
Subject: Re: F16 to Taiwan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: F16
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:09:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.215310.8526@jho.com> john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>
>It is now official.  President Bush was in my backyard Ft. Worth this
>afternoon to announce he authorized to sell Taiwan 150 F-16 which
>worth more than $4 billion dollars and it saved 3000 jobs in
>Texas.  Bad thing for Bush is that all the General Dynamics workers
>realize that this is a pure political move and the sale probably won't
>help him much in the poll.  
>-- 
>John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.
Hi:
I am very happy to see Taiwan has more weapons to defend itself.
I also read from the World Journal a while ago that Iran was selling
in-flight refeuling technology to China.
But after all, I think US should sell F-15's or F/A-18's.

Roger.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:16:24 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Maryland, College Park

In article <4ecWBHK00UhB41YMgK@andrew.cmu.edu> Joseph Yen <jy0x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I thought the joke was mildly amusing.  It can be replaced with another
>other badly engineered car- (e.g. Yugo) and is not expressly aimed at
>the Korean people.  I felt it was rather appropriate as a side joke for
>the heat over over the Korean/Taiwanese problem. 

	I'm talking about the subject line you see above;
	and it is expressly aimed at the Korean People.

	I've also posted the following:

>Message-ID: <1992Aug30.193743.28558@eng.umd.edu>
>From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
>Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 19:37:43 GMT
>References: <1992Aug29.180339.58500@cc.usu.edu>
>Does this article have to have this stupid subject line?
>Or can the header be adjusted something relevant to the body?
>Please....
>       Daeshik Kim     H: (703)273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
>       /PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
>       dskim@eng.umd.edu       I don't speak for Sprint.

	and I got the following responses

>Mr. Kim, if you have read my post 8270, you would have understood why
>I put such a subject line.  If you still disagree, state a reason
>please

	Come on guys/girls! What the heck is going on?

	You poeple have every damn right to post anything you
	wanted; but, I'm asking it would be nice to post with
	subject line that can mostly show the content.

	If you don't want to, it's fine with me.
	Just don't get me involved into those flame thread.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703)273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
	dskim@eng.umd.edu	I don't speak for Sprint.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: y0z8374@zeus.tamu.edu (ZHANG, YUEMIN)
Subject: Re: Korean Bashing (Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:20:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.013652.24397@ichips.intel.com>, pchang@pdxgp2 (Paul Chang) writes...
>My colleague next "door" is from ROK. He told me the general reaction of Korean people
>on the ROK-PRC normalization is not so good. He personally doesn't feel ROK will gain
>too much from this. He thinks although the potential market in mainland China is there,
>how are they going to pay for Korean imports. "... Vegitables? They are too dirty for us
--------------------------------------------------

Do you know any thing about trade between PRC and ROK? Let me tell one thing to 
show how igorance you are. Last the trade between PRC and ROK is much larger 
than  the trade between Taiwan and ROK. But ROK has a huge trade deficit ($1.7 
billion). So the question should be vise verse, how are they going to pay for 
the PRC's imports?

YZ
From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Culture: Myths and Legends
Keywords: a-sen-sai, Liao Tiam-ding, Bak-Gang ma tso
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:06:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin Advanced Workstation Division
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Aug25.020437.23791@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, philliao@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Hsin-Chao Phil Liao) writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I have heard lots of stories regarding the following things
> since I was a little kid.  I have forgotten them all.  Maybe
> someone could re-tell these things to me.  People who don't 
> speak Taiwanese might want to skip this article.
> 
> 1) Who is A-sen-sai ("a good-hearted lion")?  And what did he do?
                  ^^^                  ^^^^

This SAI does not mean lion, though they sound alike.
It should be translated as MASTER (or sort of).

> - Phil  (philliao@cory.berkeley.edu)
-- 
/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
 * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
\* Ter-Yuan Lee                                                              */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Korean generalization
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:30:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.230918.24991@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee) writes:
>From my past experience dealing with the S. Koreans, it seems that there
>is always a sense of self pomposity in them.

True.  I sensed the same very often and it is very annoying.  But I would
not use "always" becase you never talked to me yet.  :)

> This kind of self pomposity
>helped the Koreans gain some economic benefit, but did not improve the
>cultural aspects in their life.

It is possible that the pomposity came from the economic progress.  I do
not know.  But most nations has some d***heads no matter what the economic
situation is.  And what is "culture" that you are talking about.
Entertainment?  Well...

> You can see them renting Chinese (mostly
>Hong Kong and Taiwanese) movies to fill their blank in the everyday life.

More than that, most Koreans worship one of the two foreign Gods.  And it
is not elite thing to say "I truly enjoy Korean movies."  The popularity of
Madonna probably at least rival most domestic artists and even The New Kids
On The Block draws more audience than most domestic singers.  

>For this, Korean can not just bury their heads in the sand lying that their 
>culture is totally irrelevant to the Chinese culture.

It is hard to deny the influence when more than 30% of everyday language
(vocabulary) comes from Chinese, and when your own name (including your
last name) is made of Chinese characters.

> For the same reason
>above, they even claim that Korean culture breeds the Chinese culture, 
>Confucius is Korean, ....., etc. 

Let's not generalize a few uninformed and ignorant statement into the whole
population.  I have Confucious books on my bookshelf.

>And in their map, ROC does not exist.

Give me a break!!!!!!!  Now are you going to say the world population
figure in Korean textbook is only 75% of the other countries' textbook
figure? 

>The scenario may be explained by the trade competition between these two
>countries. But what does it take to make this whole state to deceit 
>themselves up to this degree?

The explanation is not necessary, and your question is irrelevant because
your stated "facts" were simply way-off.  I think you spoke with a idiot
and thought he/she represented Korea.  It would have been nicer if you
asked first ("Do Koreans think Confucius is Korean?" type of question.)
instead of expanding on your uncomfirmed assumption.

>Interesting enougn, you can find most Korean males are also heavy smokers.

It bugs the hell out of me as well.  I do not care about their health.  It
just stinks...  This is one of the prime reason I do not want to work in
Korea in addition to having trouble dealing with stiff-necked people.

>And one more thing, most of the male Koreans wear sneakers in a different
>way than usual. The rear part of sneakers are always treaded flat.

You mean folding the backside in?  It is unsightly, if you ask me.  But
hey, it is their shoes.  What do I care?  Do you care?

James Choi
From: vorchez@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Cameron Campbell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Need some information about living in Taipei
Summary: Rigid gas-permeable lens solution available in Taipei?
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:57:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi,  

I have what may seem like a silly question, but is actually important.
Does anyone know if conditioning solution and cleaning solution for rigid
gas-permeable contact lenses (like the Boston II) are available in Taipei
now?  I need to know because I am coming to Taiwan in a week and spending
nine months, so I have to stock up here on chemicals if they are not
available in Taiwan.

The only reason that I am asking is that when I lived in Taiwan in 1989,
the chemicals for the rigid gas-permeable lens were not available then,
the only things available were saline solution and stuff for soft lens.
I ended up wearing my glasses for six months and keeping my lenses stored.
I am hoping that I will be able to wear my contact lenses this time.

I would really appreciate any information that anyone could give me on this
admittedly weird question.

Campbell Campbell


-- 
This is a test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 16:48:24 GMT

I think I am getting into habit of checking these things.  NO NAME AGAIN!

In article <9223618.1419@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
[...]
>all you f***ing d*ckhead, selfish, dishonest, friend-betraying
>Koreans...

I am sure some fits the description above.  Then again, it is true for any
nationality or race.  So, nothing new so far...

>I'll never ever buy ANY Korean product from now on.... whether
>it's car or noodles or cheap pirate/rip-off Taiwan-designed
>computers... and I'll encourage all my friends to do so.

Unfortunately, this sentiment does not last long.  If it did, U.S. would
not have such trade deficit problems.  Koreans in Korea, with their
anti-Japanese feeling at its peak as ever, LOVES Japanese products and BUYS
them.  Americans are sold on better quality cars made by their ex-war-enemy
who used to shoot them.

You can certainly try boicotting the products of those who betrayed you.
But the reality is we cannot stop people from buying the products made by
those who used to shoot, torture and rape you.

>"Now we insist that the customers use condoms, and most do.
>We hit them on their most sensitive point, saying we are protecting
>their families."              -- Margarita, Mexico City prostitute
>:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) that really hurts! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Make sure to avoid Korean made condoms as well.

Good luck.

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 18:55:09 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug24.230918.24991@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee) writes:
>
>Interesting enougn, you can find most Korean males are also heavy smokers.
>And one more thing, most of the male Koreans wear sneakers in a different
>way than usual. The rear part of sneakers are always treaded flat.
>
	When you use the word 'most', please be careful.

	I really doubt that YOUR 'most Korean male' represent
	MOST KOREAN IN KOREA.  If it is so, YOUR 'MOST KOREAN' means
	SOME SMALL PORTION of Koreans in the world.

	In fact, when I was in Korea, I've never seen Chinese
	(HongKong/Taiwan) movie for myself; and not now, either.

	Your tone/usage of 'MOST' can give wrong impression.

	Nothing personal, but just it bothers me.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703)273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
	dskim@eng.umd.edu	I don't speak for Sprint.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Can we not all get along?
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:50:00 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Aug28.000437.24388@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>I don't think this is quite it.  First, the Chinese living in northern China
>now are definitely not pure Chinese (or perhaps I should say Han) stock.

On the other hand, Chinese living in southern China are also
definitely not pure "Chinese" stock.  There was no doubt a lot of
intermarriage between the refugees from the North and the indigenous
peoples of the South.

I don't think it makes sense at all to look at Chinese from the
viewpoint of "genetic purity."  Genetically speaking, no one alive
today can be considered "pure Chinese."
From: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
Subject: Wanted : Hercules Mono Hangul Emulator for KSCODE code
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:00:54 GMT
 <1992Aug27.122543.3661@vax.muskingum.edu> <1992Aug27.173042.10473@terminator.cc.umich.edu>
Reply-To: kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim)
Organization: Auburn University, Auburn, AL
Message-I.D.: <1992Aug27.173042.10473@terminator.cc.umich.edu>Lines: 42

I telnet to ara.kaist.ac.kr.
This was new experiece to me. The all the posting are written in Hangul
and I could smell the home country, Korea.
But since I am using PC via ethernet card, I desperately need Hangul emulator
supporting KSCODE code.
Modem connection with IYAGI5.0 does not gives any problem, for IYAGI supports
all type of Hangul code. But modem process the networking so slowly.

DKBY.COM SUPPORTS ONLY sambo and dokkeby code so it is useless for BBS
in korea.

DANSI IS VERY NICE BUT IT RUNS ONLY ON VGA. (I could login ARA.KAIST
AND SEOUL NATIONAL UNI. BBS after running DANSI on PROCOMM at home:
THAT WAS SO NICE. Hangul screen and Hangul posting made me
understood the contents much much easily. No need to think of the meaning;
Sometimes I read english lines again but Korean BBS not!)

So does any one know the hangul emaltor which supports 
HERCULES AND KSCODE
 Please email me or post on this group for the information to all of
netter, for some netters may have same problem.

Also I received two packages of FAR EAST LANGAUGE DEVELOPMENT KIT
FROM MICROSOFT WHICH I ASKED 6 WEEKS AGO.
The package contains one CDROM and 3 korean related manual (one of them
is written in korean), other books for chinese and Japanese.
This package requires HANGUL WINDOW VERSION 3.1 (SOME NETTER TOLD
THAT THIS SOFTWARE COSTS 300,000 WON, RIGHT? IF WRONG, LET ME KNOW)

I faxed the request, and on the other hand, I emailed. Both of those 
sources sent that package to me. I thought that MICROSOFT miight
closed this deal but actually they kept their promise. Good!

Though, after reading the manual, I found that this package might
not be useful to the average koreans. 

If I can copy the CDROM to floppy version, I will upload
to nic.funet.fi under /pub/culture/korean.
(I uploaded dansi and vada there, because ftping rate is relatively
fast then the job from korea) 
Thank you.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: txc6266@ultb.isc.rit.edu (T.X. Cheng )
Subject: Re: a joke, just a joke
Originator: txc6266@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:58:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.230116.58515@cc.usu.edu> slzw0@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>>>If you are a Korean, please replace Hyundai with Feeling 101.
>>>One of my American friends told me this joke:
>>>One day a police arrested a driver and accused him of intending
>>>to murder because of overspeeding to 160 mph. The murderous tool
>>>is a Hyundai Excel.
>
>   Later, the policeman found that his speed gun was made in Taiwan.
>
>>>In adjudgement, a Hyundai technician was called to test the car.
>>>At last the driver was announced innocent, because that technician
>>>said, "It's impossible for a Hyundai to run that fast."
>>>I'm certain that this joke came from Rodney King trial.
>>>In my best recollection, the guy from Hyundai Motor America said
>>>maximum reading of that model speedometer is 120 mph.
>
>  Especially, Hyundai mechanics designed the car for safty.  They
>  considered that it is smart idear not to exceed over 120mph.
>  so, no matter you are drunken or crazy, Hyundai Exel will limit
>  your speed to save your life.
>
>  On the other hand, if you see American cars, most of those have
>  only 85mph scale speedometer.  The reason is,  American mechanics
>  considered that those who drive over 85mph are crazy enough to die.
>  Therefore, if you get crazy, your American car will get crazy too.
>  But Hyundai Excel doesn't.
>
>  Yes !  Hyndai !!
>
>>>Just a joke, don't take it serious.
>
>  Korea has already three major car-making company and another one has
>  just started.  For taiwan, it was turned out to be impossible to build
>  a car  they had to ride motercycle.  That is why there are many
>  motorcycles in Taiwan.
>
>  Additionally, do you know few other American cars are made in Korea ?
>  You can find few 100% Korean made car in GM and Ford.  Even Korean made
>  engins are easier to find in America.
>
>
>> Hyundai Excel, nothing compare with most of american cars.
>
>  The American car that you want to compare with Hyundai, could be made in
>  Korea also. Check it out before you compare.    And more, I don't think
>  it is smart idea to listen to the little toy makers (Taiwanese) about cars.
>
>C.S. Park
>
>
>
>
>

??????????????????????????
?  Y E S, H Y U N D A I  ?
??????????????????????????

Dear Netters,

    After reading jokes, let's see something real.

    Based on Consumer Report reported, there are two models Korean cars listed
in 'Used Car To Avoid.'  They are:

    Hynudai Excel, 86-90
    Hyundai Sonata 4, 89-90.
(Note: The coverage of the used cars reported is from 1986 to 1990.)

Reference: 'Used Cars', Consumer Report, Vol 57, No.4, pp. 282-283, April 1992.

    So, Koreans, 'yes Hyundai'?
    I don't think so.

Timothy Cheng
--------------
txc6266@ultb.ics.rit.edu



Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: txc6266@ultb.isc.rit.edu (T.X. Cheng )
Subject: Re: ROC-terminated-South Korea
Originator: txc6266@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:56:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.184848.28097@zip.eecs.umich.edu> cyc@z.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes:
>>   To sum up, I don't think Korea is our friend.....( I mean Korea government
>>and Korea companies, not Korea people.... ), Korea always is our economy
>>enemy......
>>
>>
>>Don't angry about Taiwan-terminated-Korea..... We should happy......said that
>>From now on, when we see Korea people, we don't need to say "We are Friends"
>>Because Korea always still our enemy.......... Don't lie ourselves.......
>>
>
>To name a business competitor as enemy is too narrow mind. U.S. economy has
>been seriously hurt by Japanese products, but American never name Japanese
                                                        ^^^^^     
                                             Please be neat to use this word.
                                             Based on my knowing from a TV show,
                                             60 minutes, they did say so.

>as their enemy. This world is full of competitions and this is the driving
>force for the progress of human kind in the past many hundred years. So, we
>should thank our competitors instead of blame them.
>Besides, if we could give Korean another choice, such as Taiwan
>independence, I bet Korean will be more than happy to recognize both China
>and Taiwan. Unfortunately, KMT always stubbornly want to fight for the
>representation of China with PRC.

Why not?  When Taiwan was occupied by Japan, Japanese government obliged
Taiwanese using Japanese names.  How many people were willing to do so?
For the same reason, the KMT insists the name, the Republic of China.

>
>Yi-Chieh
>
>Yi-Chieh

Please do not spread IT or TI here, unless you want Taiwan to be ruled by PRC.
I feel that you will argue with this suggestion.  I would like to say that
on the accord signed by S. Korea and PRC says that Korea respects PRC's
declaration "Taiwan is a part of China."  The same words also appeared on the
accord signed by USA and PRC 13 years ago.  My explanation for this declaration
is "No matter what will happen between Taiwan and China, that is Chinese
internal problem but not a international event.  No country can interfere."
For your reference.

Tzyh-horng Cheng
 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:12411 soc.culture.korean:3940
From: jt2o+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:04:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4eal3G200WB4B4_r8C
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

hahahahahah!!!