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From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.corruption
Subject: Re: More #Twilight_Zone double standards
Date: 17 Oct 1992 00:55:52 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily              those of the Australian National University.

In article <cgw.719113552@sol> cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams) writes:
>Uh, pardon? KILL is a legitimate response to a mass-kick; "legitimate"
>chanop or not. To tell the truth, I don't understand the use of the

so what is the use of a channel operator? it is exactly that thoughts of people
like you who like to play 'god' and kill someone just because he exercised
his RIGHT as a channel op to kick everyone off that channel (in which he had
channel operatorship on) - that is of course of that person got the chan op
in a legitimate way.

>word "legitimate" with "mass kick". You do something deliberately 
>designed to annoy, and expect to be lauded for your efforts? 

It is not for you to decide that. The fact is that a channel operator should
have TOTAL control of a channel, or are you for the old Mr. avaloG's
/on kick "* avalog *" /kill $0 ?

>Pardon me for doubting the sanity and logic of that...

i doubt the sanity of you when u wrote this posting...

>-cgw-
>
>--
>christopher williams   cgw@unt.edu  +1 817 565 4161  Just a guy
>lead programmer/operator, university of north texas  made of dots and lines.

titus
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: suopanki@zombie.oulu.fi (Heikki Suopanki)
Subject: Re: Party in Boston to honour WiZ's visit.
Reply-To: heikki.suopanki@phoenix.oulu.fi
Organization: Unixverstas Olutensin, Finlandia
	<1992Oct10.080538.2014@mcs.kent.edu> <29137@life.ai.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:34:23 GMT

>>>>> On 11 Oct 92 15:06:31 GMT, gwydion@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) said:

> Gawd.  ALl these Buckeyes.  Oh, for the good old days, when
> half the IRC.net was Finns.

Oh, for the good old days, when all... oh, never mind.

-Heikki
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Some problems...
From: g00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Eric Hedlund)
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:01:21 -0600
Reply-To: g00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

I just got involved with IRC, and I must say that it's very interesting, if a bit cumbersome.  However, I am having some problems that are dampening my enthusiasm about this entire thing.
 
First of all, I'm having trouble leaving channels.
For some reason, the /part command dumps me from the IRC system, not just the channel.  What am I supposed to do?
 
Also, I'm having the worst time connecting to other servers.  IRC is supposed to let me talk to people around the world, and yet many servers don't seem to want to let me in.  Am I to understand that the list of channels that I get from my server are international, and that all servers share that list?  Like I said, I'm new to the system, and am not familiar with the layout.
 
One thing suprised me to no end.  For some reason, I attempted to access a server that I've forgotten, and I got this message:
 
*** You're banned from IRC... No chance!
*** Server error message: Closing Link: Morentis[TIGGER.StCloud.MSUS.EDU]
Morentis (K-lined)
 
Now, I can assure you that I have not (intentionally) done anything wrong or irresponsible.  Granted, I had a pleasant debate with a Republican, but that's about it.  Why on earth would this happen, do you think?
 
Thanks for any help. 
 
              (((() Tanta stultitia mortalium est. ())))
Eric Hedlund			Internet: G00023@Tigger.StCloud.MSUS.edu
St. Cloud State University		  CONSULT2@Tigger.StCloud.MSUS.edu
Room 504, W. W. Holes Hall         
St. Cloud, MN 56301-4498
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: jtasler@mccoy.NMSU.Edu (TASLER)
Subject: whois valkor?
Keywords: valkor
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:36:48 GMT

does anyone have more info on a person named valcor/valkor?

i have heard a lot of this so called "legend"...anyone else?


Jon
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: What Happened to NOTE-NO?
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:27:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia

In article <1992Oct13.115908.2871@nic.csu.net> mcgee@nic.csu.net writes:

>What happened to the /M NOTE-NO commands? They worked yesterday!!!
>Today, they appear to be gone!

I ate them.

*burp*
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: danielce@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Daniel AMP Carosone)
Subject: Re: TRUE LEGEND was Re: whois valkor?
Keywords: valkor
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:12:10 GMT


[acc rants]

We disowned him long ago..

--
Dan.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jerodh@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Jerod Husvar)
Subject: Re: Party in Boston to honour WiZ's visit.
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 08:06:52 GMT

In article <CKD.92Oct8160850@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>Jerod> == Jerod Husvar <jerodh@Condor.mcs.kent.edu> 
>
> Jerod> Hop on I-90.... Head east...  When you get to NYC, head
> Jerod> south.... When you hit Boston, find Commonwealth Ave and go from
> Jerod> there.
>
>It will take a LONG time to hit Boston from NYC going south.  Try
>northeast instead.  Not that it matters, since I-90 doesn't go into NYC
>anyway, but *DOES* reach Boston.
>
>--
>Christopher K. Davis      |       NET.INSIGHTS INTO ARTISTIC CRITICISM:
><ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   | ``[Y]ou don't cure bad art by locking it all up
>System Administrator, EFF | in one museum, you cure it by throwing tomatoes
>+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   | at bad artists.'' --Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>

OH NOOoooooooo! Not you too!  See previous threat to Helen! :)


-- 
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:> jerodh@mcs.kent.edu   <:> Self-Proclaimed Computer Addict                 <:
:> Kent State University <:> P.O. Box 35, Rootstown, OH, USA (216) 325-2849  <:
 \ Kent, Ohio  USA       / \ I do consulting.      #include <std.disclaimer> / 
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: macster@IASTATE.EDU (Michael C Mccarty)
Subject: Re: Party in Boston to honour WiZ's visit.
Reply-To: macster@IASTATE.EDU (Michael C Mccarty)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:24:41 GMT

In article <28881@life.ai.mit.edu>, gwydion@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary
Programmer) writes:
> ++++++
> DIRECTIONS:
> 	By car: Get to COMMONWEALTH AVE. This is left as an excercise for
>                               blah
>                               blah
>                               blah
> 
> 	By T: Take the GREEN LINE up COMMONWEALTH AVE towards Boston
>                               blah
>                               blah
>                               blah
> 
> 	If all else fails, call. 617 562-0777
>

This is all fine and good but, ... How do I get there from Ames, IA?

                              
					Mike.


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Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Some problems...
From: g00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Eric Hedlund)
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:45:12 -0600
Reply-To: g00023@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 <1992Oct14.160136.1415@msus1.msus.edu>,<1992Oct15.072100.4151@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Oct15.072100.4151@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:
>
>Sounds to me like the ftp in binary problem.
>Someone ftpped irc173.com in binaary and then tryied to 'run' it.

That's correct. :)

>1. irc173.com must be ftpped in ascii
>2. it must be called with   @irc173.com     This will then try to compile 
>it for you.

Oh, whoops.  I didn't know that.  Still, it DOES work, with a few
exceptions...

>After it has created irc.exe
>you should set up a symbol like this.. Mine looks like this:
>
>irc :== $ACSADVIS_DEVICE:[frechette_i]irc.exe
>
>Most of which you can see with the command   show def
>Just add the $ before the device name.. and the irc.exe after the 
>directory name.

Hmm.  I think I understand... Thanks.


              (((() Tanta stultitia mortalium est. ())))
Eric Hedlund			Internet: G00023@Tigger.StCloud.MSUS.edu
St. Cloud State University	     IRC: Morentis

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams)
Subject: Re: More #Twilight_Zone double standards
Originator: cgw@sol
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:51:10 GMT

In <1992Oct13.232132.22778@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo) writes:
>And no, I didn't expect anything else. We fully expected the quiche
>eaters to react hypocritically. The second time, we just did it for
>the logs.

Who is `we'? Did a mental hospital have a major escape from it's 
paranoid schizophreics ward?

>Basically, I'm gathering a database of logs for a defence file for
>people labelled "Vanity Ops". Having seen what the people who use the
>term the most *really* get up to, the vanity ops have at least as
>much justification for their existance as the quiche eaters.

Why do you want to defend vanity ops?

>--
>__________________________________________________________________________
>troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.

-cgw-

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From: chiner@saturn (Chris Hiner)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Record Bot Needed *QUICK!*
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:48:39 GMT
Reply-To: chiner@nova.gmi.edu
Organization: GMI/EMI CIM Lab
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis) writes:
: I'm pretty new to the IRC world so don't know where to find IRC Bot
: sources.  I need a bot that just records what goes on in a particular
: channel ... quickly!  I need to record the #Debate channel for the
: Presidential Debate tonight.  If anyone has the necessary source, I'd
: sure appreciate it!  
: 
: Thanks in advance!
: 
: Stratocaster

In IRCII, just /set log on
and it'll be saved to the file specified with /set logfile filename
No need to make a bot out of it...

--
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.)
Subject: Re: BI-WEEKLY: How to compile and install an IRC-II client
    <HROSE.92Oct11184157@rocza.eff.org>
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:03:50 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <HROSE.92Oct11184157@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
>Nonononon! If you're in the US, *do not* use irc.mit.edu. It's a slug.
>Try any of these:
>East Coast: csd.bu.edu
>Midwest: penfold.ece.uiuc.edu
>Rocky Mtns: ucsu.colorado.edu
>West Coast: badger.ugcs.caltech.edu

I'd have to add one more to this list:

Southeast: hermes.tcad.ee.ufl.edu.
Also, you should look to see if your campus has a server. As long as the
it has decent links, any server on your own campus will be faster than
one elsewhere on the net. (With a couple of exceptions, I'm sure.)

As Helen/Trillian said, just ask a person on #Twilight_Zone or one of the
"help" (#euhelp, etc.) If you write me about it, I'll see what help
I can be, as well.

>--Helen

David W. Rankin, Jr.,  Mac Archiver for f.ms.uky.edu   Yorick on IRC
rankin@ms.uky.edu  rankin@ukma.BITNET rankin@ukma.UUCP uunet!ukma!rankin
Alternate addresses: rankin@mik.uky.edu  djrank00@aix3090b.uky.edu
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keep his commandments,/ for this is the whole duty of man."
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Zell)
Subject: IRC client help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:24:56 GMT

I have a friend from Missouri with no newsnet access (which is why I'm psoting
instead). She hasn't been able to get on irc lately, she keeps getting a 
'error 8 in vmsf transaction'. Anyone have an idea what the problem is or
how to solve it? If so, please mail her at c544898@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Thanks for the help
Joe

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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:10:03 EDT
From: Daniel Weiss <DWEISS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: whois valkor?

While Valkor may be a "legened" at NMSU, in places where there is more to do
than New Mexico, he is known as an irc user who kicked a lot of people one.

Flammable@IRC
From: lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: #twilight_zone: The sides are drawn.
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:37:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <29483@life.ai.mit.edu> gwydion@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer) writes:
>In article <cgw.719113870@sol> cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams) writes:
			Stuff Deleted.

>>Why do you want to defend vanity ops?
>
>Probably because there is usually a difference between what the
>#twilight_zone people label vanity ops and real vanity ops?  "Vanity
>op" is a cry first raised by Wumpus and his ilk -- those who believe
>that they have a God-given right to rule over all they come across.
>No person with any sense of decency goes around calling others vanity
>ops.
>
>Gwydion.

	Well, the sides in this argument are clearly defined. Could it possibly
 be that neither side is 100% right ? People in #T_z do act superior, yes. But,
 Gwydion and others have been disruptive. Basically, what we are seeing is an 
 IRC operator/Admin war. Both sides have different views of IRC. But , mainly
  what they fight over is a dislike of each other. Both sides really dislike
 each other, and think themselves superior. As an outsider, I can tell you 
 that neither side is. There have been, are, and will be abuses by both sides.
 All I can ask is that this war not be allowed to disrupt the IRC net, nor 
 take away an enjoyable thing from 1000+ people.

	Can you not come to an understanding ? Considering the attitudes shown
 in #T_z last night, I have little hope. Please surprise me. Do not let 
 personal differences effect the entire net. I appeal to both sides in this.

		That is all I can say.
 

-- 
         "When you have eliminated the possible, whatever remains, 
         however improbable, must be the TRUTH !" Sherlock Holmes.
	 (The opinions expressed herein are mine, and not NJITs)	
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: Cihan.Tepedelenlioglu@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Cihan Tepedelenlioglu)
Subject: Connection from Bitnet
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:01:15 GMT

	Hello,
   I was wondering if someone from Bitnet could connect to IRC in any way.

Thanks in advance.
Cihan Tepedelenlioglu

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: Party in Boston to honour WiZ's visit.
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
	<1992Oct8.183406.29180@mcs.kent.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:57:57 GMT

Jerod> == Jerod Husvar <jerodh@Condor.mcs.kent.edu> 

 Jerod> Hop on I-90.... Head east...  When you get to NYC, head
 Jerod> south.... When you hit Boston, find Commonwealth Ave and go from
 Jerod> there.

Actually, to be picky, I-90 runs straight into Boston. To find Comm Ave,
get off I-90 at the Allston/Brighton exit.

--Helen

--
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: HELP WITH IRCHAT.ELC AND SERVERS
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:54:22 GMT

I am using irchat.elc with emacs (perl client for gnu emacs) and I think
it's great, but I am havinga few problems. First, I can't get it to
recognize other irc servers. When it asks which server, I type in
csd.bu.edu, but it says "host unknown". Then, I try the i.p. number
and it still says host unknown. Drag eh? How can I get it to see 'em?
I also type "ctrl-c /" and "links" and I can't see csd.bu.edu even though
I know it's there? Any ideas?
   Also, how can I get my irchat.elc client to recognize /action commands
so it doesnt' send any annoying message to me every time? Or at least can
I nullify /action commands so I see nothing?
    On a last note, is it right for an ircadmin to take away the /server
command on the irc client? This is what has caused the problem in the first
place. Isn't the ability to change servers a right, not a feature? I guess
there are no rights just privs on irc, but now our server will only be
as reliable as our ircops (which is questionable 8).
   thanks for help
steve
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From: gwydion@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Mercenary Programmer)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: More #Twilight_Zone double standards
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:48:40 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <cgw.719113870@sol> cgw@sol.acs.unt.edu (christopher williams) writes:

>>Basically, I'm gathering a database of logs for a defence file for
>>people labelled "Vanity Ops". Having seen what the people who use the
>>term the most *really* get up to, the vanity ops have at least as
>>much justification for their existance as the quiche eaters.

>Why do you want to defend vanity ops?

Probably because there is usually a difference between what the
#twilight_zone people label vanity ops and real vanity ops?  "Vanity
op" is a cry first raised by Wumpus and his ilk -- those who believe
that they have a God-given right to rule over all they come across.
No person with any sense of decency goes around calling others vanity
ops.

Gwydion.

Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: Re: Getting the user@host out of the /on join
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:11:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.164900.2123@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.062619.23952@news.iastate.edu> jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) writes:

>Basically, what you are probably looking for is something like this ...
>
>  on -join "DemoN" /if "$%userhost()=dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu" /mode $1 +o $0

Basically what he wants is 
 on ^join * echo *** $0 ($%userhost()) has joined channel $1

This is compatible with the format of the 2.2pre clients.
And to clarify a bit when the server sends the userhost.  Just do 

on ^raw_irc * echo $*

And watch what the server sends you.  Note this will override all your
other ON's.  (with the exception of serial numbered ON's in pre7)

	ian
Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Subject: Re: question about $ and /ircname
Organization: Doug's House of Disco
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:45:56 GMT
X-Posted-From: dopey.cc.utexas.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Oct11.042646.2825@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-) writes:
>In article <1b7omcINNhlb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> afj@po.CWRU.Edu (Anne F. Johnson) writes:
>>various ways that I've read include typing...
>>/IRCNAME = "Ronald van Loon"; export IRCNAME
>Where did you read this?  Who told you this?  What help pages?
>What man pages?
...
>You're so close and yet miles and miles away from where you want to be.
...
>>programming and I know absolutely nothing about UNIX
>Obviously.

>>but I can follow directions...
>Obviously not.

Oh come on Mr. Runaway Daemon ... there was a time that even *you* didn't know
how to apply environment variables ... be a little nicer to the fellow.  He
wasn't *that* far off ...

Actually, all IRCII's help files say about this is this (at least mine ...):

*** HELP IRCII choices:
COMMAND_LINE_ARGS  COPYRIGHT          ENVIRONMENT_VARS
IRCII              PROGRAMMING        SERVER_LISTS
STATUS_LINE        
           
HELP IRCII Topic: ENVIRONMENT_VARS
*** Help on ENVIRONMENT_VARS
The following environment variables are recognized by IRCII.
 
IRCNICK   -  Specifies your default irc nickname
IRCNAME   -  Specifies any lunacy you want instead of your real name
IRCSERVER -  Specifies a default server list for IRCII
IRCPATH   -  Specifies a list of directories IRCII should search when
             the /LOAD command is used to find IRCII scripts.
             (also see SET LOAD_PATH)
IRCRC     -  Specifies a file to use instead of your $HOME/.ircrc.
TERM      -  Specifies your terminal type
HOME      -  Tells IRCII where your home directory is
IrcII can find other environment variables through alias substitution.
e.g.  $HOST will show the HOST envariable, $PATH the PATH envariable.


Certainly nothing about how to actually *change* them ... obviously
this person had at least done some of the legwork on this, to find out about
the export command, etc...

Of course, Daemon is correct about what he said about needing a unix
shell ...

But if you *do* have a real unix account, you can include these setenv
statements in your .login or .cshrc files ... (assuming you use the csh or
tcsh shells ... with others, it gets more complicated ...)

   setenv IRCNAME "Bozo the Clown\!"   <- some characters must be quoted.
   setenv IRCNICK "Bozo"
   setenv IRCSERVER bozo.cs.edu

More questions ? ask ...


-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: Re: If structures and Tides.  Inevitable change.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:18:45 GMT

In article <Oct.15.20.32.30.1992.16129@pilot.njin.net> shevett@pilot.njin.net (Shayde) writes:

Let's see if we can work this out.
>/^alias bro {
>	/if ([$hush]==[YES])
>		{	/msg $0 Can't say anything.  Hushed.  ;	
>		/assign Ct_Msgs_Sent ${Ct_Msgs_Sent + 1} }
>		{	/say $1- 
>		/assign Ct_Pub_Sent ${Ct_Pub_Sent + 1} }
>}
^alias bro {
	if (hush == [yes])
	{
		msg $0 Can't say anything. Hushed.
		@ Ct_Msgs_Sent = Ct_Msgs_Sent + 1
	}
	{
		/ $1-
		@ Ct_Pub_Sent = Ct_Pub_Sent + 1
	}
}

>(I know daemon - i'm still using / statements - so sue me :)
My lawyer will be contacting your lawyer tommorow around 2.

>if ([$varname] == [value])
>{ true structure }
>{ false structure } 
Right..  It is however NOT
	if () 
		{ stuff  ;
		more stuff }
		etc.. 
The syntax is one of the following three..
	if (exp) {true} {false}
	if (exp)
		{true}
		{false}
	if (exp)
	{
		true
	}
	{
		false
	}

Notice the symetry.  The parser still doesn't always get spacing
right and it gets real confused when it doesn't know where one command
begins and another ends.

>Dave Shevett - 'Shayde'

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