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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:05:29 CDT
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM>
Subject:      Riot Girl
To:           Discussions on all forms of music <ALLMUSIC@AUVM>

Recommended reading: "Revolution Girl-Style Now! Notes from the Teenage Feminis
t Rock'n'Roll Underground" (__Reader__, Sept. 25, 1992). This piece by Emily Wh
ite in our local free weekly is extremely suggestive of musical and political t
rends among young women's groups.  It also had juicy bits that should appeal tp
 prurient tastes.

                                       Renato

"I will resist with every inch / And every breath / I will resist psychic death
"  Kathleen Hanna (of Bikini Kill)
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:13:05 MDT
From:         Maid in Bedlam <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      mom told me, "get that thing out of your mouth!"

I thought this might be of particular interest to Jenna and any other players
out there:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello to all Harmonica lovers,

I have just had a list server for harmonica created.  This list is
open to anyone who plays any type of music, who likes any type of
music and those who are just curious.  EVERYONE is WELCOME!!!

This is for no certain type of music.  Personally, I would like to see
a large amount of diversity.  Blues, Jazz, Folk, Classical, Country
and all other styles of harmonica playing are welcome.

To subscribe to this server write (via e-mail) to:

	LISTSERV@WKUVX1.BITNET

The body of the letter should be this:

	SUBSCRIBE HARP-L "your real name"

The server should send you a help file and any letters already in the
archives (which is not many, YET!!).

If you have any questions or problems write me at:

	PIERCCM@WKUVX1.BITNET

If you know of others who would be interested, please let them know.


Thanks,

Chris Pierce
pierccm@wkuvx1.bitnet
From: ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET (Leonard Watkins)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 12:52:09 GMT
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              15 Oct 1992 13:30:08 +0000 from <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA>

On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:30:08 +0000 OUT, OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT... sa
>Leonard says:
>
>>>What's the latest in sampling technology?
>
>>I wish they'd outlaw it
>
>        Sorry, I can't agree. No flames meant, but I don't think the blame
>must be put on the technological means. This would more or less mean that
>a man should be jailed because, since he's a male, there are some chances
>that he may rape someone. Unfair, I think.
I don't understand what you mean here

>Gabriel's IV album _Security_. It was recorded in the early Eighties, with a
>very basic model of the Fairlight Music Synthesizer, and he managed to get
>some sounds which no-one had ever heard before. That was a revolution, not
>a record. Perhaps for the first time a worldwide audience learned that it
>was possible to make music with a drain-pipe, with paving stones, smashed
>windows, and have all these sounds elaborated and "bent" through an extreme
>use of sampling techniques.

I found that album not to my liking i'm not a synth type of person and
what i heard of that album irritated me, but that's just because it's
not my cup-of-tea

Jimi Henderix was experimenting with this type of stuff years ago putting
a speaker in water..creating raindrops...etc. We all know the sounds he
created were unique and revolutionary, but he did it without the use of
today's tech and did it better IMHO than anyone has thus far

Maybe i don't understand sampling, i thought it was the process of getting
a sound and using it in a different context for example: I think i've
read that John Bohnam's drums have been sampled and used on a lot of tunes
well IMHO that's stealing, and there may be some creativity involved, but
it is not something a musician should do........L.W.
From: natassa@CED.TUC.GR ((Natassa Ailamaki))
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Subject: Please, help me to find these disks!!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:00:24 GMT
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Hi everyone,

I am looking for two disks, and it seems impossible to
find them here in Greece. They are the following:

1. The Swans - "Love Will Tear Us Apart", E.P. by Penguin

    and

2. BAUHAUS - "SATORI IN PARIS", Live Single, by New Rose.

Does anyone have any idea if I can find either of them anyway
and anywhere in the world, I would very much appreciate
to contact me. Please send e-mail to natassa@ced.tuc.gr directly,
since I am not a member of this list.

Thank you all in advance,

Natassa.
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:59:34 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Music to boat by
              8 Oct 1992 12:18:03 EDT from <RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM>

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:18:03 EDT <RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM> said:
>Interesting spooky section in the middle using bits of the poem. See Leonard,
>some heavy metallers can even read  B-))!!
The problem is their hearing not their reading....(just kidding of course)
I've nothing against heavy metal folks, or the music it just doen't move me
(run on continued) but i will give QR a listen if i find some to borrow.L.W.
From: VANVMIKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU (MIKE VAN VONDEREN)
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Subject: Re: discussions on all forms of music?
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:23:00 GMT
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Date sent:  15-OCT-1992 12:08:16
Mike Masuda says:
> The discussions lately have had
> no relevance to me or my tastes in music.
I can relate.
> Where are all the people who said they wanted some
> cool conversations about neat new ideas in music?
Hi, I'm Mike, I like all kind of music, but I especially love
Alternative/Industrial Music.  Bands like New Order, Skinny Puppy, R.E.M.,
The Cure, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, and Debra Harry all top the my list of
favorate groups.
> What are your ideas on the trends in music?
> You MUST have some opinion on that subject, unless
> you just don't care about it.
What trend ARE you talking about?
> This is a discussion list, isn't it?
Ya.
> Does anyone out there actually play unusual instruments?
I used to play the Flugelhorn.  (If that is unusual)
> If you had the run of a radio station, what would be your playlist?
All alternative.  That's what the "college kids" really like now, so...so
do I.  (Seeing since I'm a college kid)
> What kind of music did you listen to as a young child?
My parents drilled country into my head...I didn't like it.  So, I loved to
listen to Blondie, whom in 1990 I saw in concert in Milwaukee (excellent!).
That's the only music I remember listening to early in my life.
> What is the "sound" YOU are looking for in music today?
Alternative.
> Sorry for all the questions, I'm just bored and frustrated...
That's cool.
> Maybe there should be a separate net for musicians.
Definetly
> Mike Masuda

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From: USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (Dave Hall)
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Date: 13 Oct 92 17:54:44 GMT
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              10 Oct 1992 17:50:00 CDT from <TBUCK%KNOX.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>


    Fave Various Artist CD's (Albums)?

_I'm Your Fan_  Tribute to Leonard Coehn
_Until The End Of The World_  Soundtrack to an excellent film by Wim
                              Wenders.
_Red Hot + Blue_  Tribute to Cole Porter

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:14:50 GMT
From:         HAUGHD88@IRLEARN.UCD.IE
Subject:      Re: you read it, you call it

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:24:07 +0000 OUT, OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT... sai
>        Musically speaking, I think that Sinead O'Connor is both ethnocentri-
>stica and trying to deliberately raise a buzz about her action (the more we
>buzz, the more she sells -- hooray for the market!).
>        Anyway, since I'm not that into the matter, I would like to hear some-
>thing about this from our Irish fellow-netters. It seems that most of the Irish

Personally, I think that Marco hit the nail squarely on the head.

Sinead O'Connor has a tremendous voice, and has written some good songs.
However, when she opens her mouth to expound her views... well, the charitable
interpretation is that she is a complete controversy-junkie, relying on
furore to boost sales (somewhat like Madonna); I hope for her sake that the
cynical view of her is correct and that she is not, in fact, as complete a
dweeb as she appears.

"This is the real enemy" ? Give me a break. No one in their right minds can
be as completely wired as to believe that. I mean, even if you do subscribe
to the notion that Catholicism is repressive/conservative/whatever, to
condemn someone who at least tries to preach some basic respect for human
life is ridiculous.

[OMC]

Picked up the new Tom Waits Cds recently. (Well, one new one - "Bone Magic",
and the soundtrack to the recent Jarmusch movie). Pretty much in the same
vein as Raindogs,Frank's Wild Years etc - more of the pump organ and
singing through a bullhorn. Not likely to win any new fans for him, but I'll
reserve further comment til I listen to it a bit more extensively.

-- bjh, Dublin.
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Subject: classical performance/other stuff
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:33:24 GMT
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     First off I think it's great that this discussion has been so civilised,
I remember many a discussion here that hasn't been (not that that's not fun
either).
     Another point I want to make has to do with symphonic or orchestral
performance, as I was reminded of that aspect by Ken's posting. One of the
hardest things to do as a musician, I think (mostly because it was hard for me)
is to humble oneself into a symphonic performance and become one of the whole.
I can recognise, now, the lack of maturity I used to display when in this
situation years ago and listened to myself all the time and tried to HEAR
myself all the time, when really the most important thing is to LOSE oneself
to the whole.
   Just as the debate rages in Rock about guitarists who can't play for the
band, only for themselves (I know about that too, believe me); so too does
it (or at least amongst some ) in the classical community about some solo
artists. THe truly great, I feel, are those who can move with ease from
the whole to the solo and be comfortable in themselves about either. It is
certainly something to aim for, to be able to not have to prove something to
those around you in an orchestra, but to prove to yourself that you can
contribute constructively to the identity of the group. There are times and
places and settings for personal outlet and virtuosity, even in an orchestra
(I played the 'cello so I know about waiting for sparse solo moments).  I think
it has helped my solo playing, and expression altogether, to come to all
these realisations. Gotta go,
                               Mick
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:31:33 PDT
From:         MIKE <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: loosing the fire

Leonard,

No arguments from me concerning the analog stuff. A lot of albums do sound
better on vinyl than on cd (case in point:  Led Zep's first few cds).
The equalisation on those cds were done really haphazardly, so the sound
wasn't up to snuff when they were released (which is why Jimmy Page took the
trouble to remaster some of their tunes).  Another factor involved is the
cd player itself--the filter inside the cd player can be the problem.
A lot of cheap cd player manufacturers use cheap filtering methods, which
does not effectively alleviate the >20KHz digital noise, and thus, sound
harsh no matter what cd you play on them.  Yeah, I know, humans can't hear
sounds over 20KHz--but if the filter is lousy, it doesn't work well on the
audio spectrum.  The result is a thin sound with no oomph or warmth.
The best solution is to just test out a cd player with a good cd recording
(my test cd is the Original Master Recording series--Pink Floyd's Dark
Side of the Moon, you may choose otherwise) and just check out a bunch of
different brands.  Good reference headphones would help, too, like the
Sony Digital Headphones.  My fave is the Sony line of cd players.  They
may not be durable, but they play real nice (I left mine out in the car
one hot summer day--stupid moi).

Keep your vinyl records.  You may never see them again in the stores.

Also, if you STILL think that vinyl sounds better than cds, then try
adding a little pink noise to your system--that will round out the sound
enough to make it sound analog.

the beatles' first four albums sound better on vinyl,
because I have original master recordings,
and because they were in stereo--I like stereo.

Mike Masuda
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From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: longest song title ever???
              7 Oct 1992 15:00:32 EDT from <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.ED U>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:00:32 EDT Scott Hammer said:
>>
>It was Hesperus I was thinking of -- isn't one of them also in the "Nats", as
>you so quaintly put it?  Maybe it wasn't them I heard doing this number, but
>I really have heard *someone* do it -- guess I'll have to rack my brain some
>more.
>
No, if you know what I mean when I say Hesperus, then they are probably the
ones you are thinking of, & it sounds like something they might do.  But none
of them are in the Nats--I'm not entirely sure any of them would like to be,
given their preferred instruments & musical endeavors.  (the "Nats" BTW is
of course a lament for DC's long-lost baseball heroes. . . :-)
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:01:37 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Music to Boat by
              8 Oct 1992 07:47:53 CDT from <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:47:53 CDT crispen said:
>Am I so old that I'm the only one who remembers Oscar Brand.  Folksinger,
>performer of many albums that were entitled something like "Bawdy Songs
>and Sea Chanteys".  They actually used dirty words in them!  All the
>gang would listen to them and blush in embarassment.  They were
>really "hot stuff".
>
Oscar Brand can occasionally be heard on NPR's _All Things Considered_
as a guest (singing) commentator.

-Scott "Coming Down with the Flu -- Yuck" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
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Subject: Christian Metal, Stryper, Petra
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:39:49 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

MHB@MITVMA.BITNET (Michael H. Bloom) writes:

>There used to be a real Christian metal band called Stryper. Were they any good
>and are they still around? I know they used to record for Enigma Metal Blade,
>so they undoubtedly got somewhat swamped with everybody else on Enigma when it
>failed... Dero, do you know anything?

Stryper are still around, but they stopped writing openly Christian lyrics a
few years ago.  They're now a standard band, made up of Christian artists, 
just like Kansas or U2, more or less.  Their music also got progressive less
hard-edged.

Conveniently, longtime Christian Rock band Petra's musical scope spread to
cover some hard rock/metal turf.  [Petra have been around since the early
1970's, have released more albums than you could shake a stick at, and are,
generally, rather good musicians.]  With songs like "This Means War," 
from the album of the same name, "Defector," from the album _On Fire_, and
other tunes, they've managed to broaden their appeal to us metalheads. :)

-Shag
-- 

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:56:15 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: female blues singers

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:25:57 GMT Michel said:
>In article <199210072224.AA05745@tuna.wang.com>,
>MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM
>("Michael Willett") says:
>
>Nah, What about Pat Mears, Melissa Etheridge ? They are also popular
>in this little country!.
I'm not sure i would classify Melissa Ethridge a blues singer, no more than
alayna miles I mean  I like melissa but to say she's a blues singer is
stretching it aliitle IMHO never heard of Pat Mears.......L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:13:42 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Reve ou cauchemar

"Michael H. Bloom" <MHB%MITVMA.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU> dit:

>Stated thus, I can't find it in my heart to disagree. I didn't see the segment
>myself, so I can't say anything about its aesthetics, but what gets to me
>about Sinead is stridency. On the other hand, it has been truthfully said,
>anyone who can piss off both Frank Sinatra and Prince has to be doing
>something right!

What everybody seems to be forgetting is that Sinead is babe-a-licious!

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From:         "Sebastian J. Welton ECNOD/CS" <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Up coming music events in the Rhein-Main area (updates)

Sorry, once again I forgot to put these one's in...


13/10 # Hugo Diaz - Kulturcafe, Darmstadt
16/10 # Music Ensemble of Benares - StudentInnenkeller, Darmstadt
17/10 # Plugz/Bouncing Trees - Oettinger Villas, Darmstadt
      # Rolling Dollar Blues Band - StudentInnenkeller, Darmstadt
18/10 # Record & CD fair - Messe, Frankfurt
20/10 # Brings - Steinbruchtheater, Darmstadt
21/10 # The McCalmans - Halb-Neun Theater, Darmstadt
30/10 # 24th German Jazz Festival Frankfurt feat. John Schroder -
        Christopher Dell Quartett, Lonely Bears (Tony Coe, Tony Hymas,
        Terry Bozzio, Hugh Burns), Kip Hanrahan Tribute (Allen
        Toussaint, Jack Bruce, Charles Neville, Henry Threadgill, Ray
        Anderson, Milton Cardonna, Fernando Saunders, and others) -
        Bockenheimer Depot, Frankfurt
31/10 # 24th German Jazz Festival Frankfurt feat. Karl Denson Quintett,
        Frankfurt Wien Connection, The Brecker Brothers - Bockenheimer
        Depot, Frankfurt
01/11 # 24th German Jazz Festival Frankfurt feat. Melody 4 (Tony Coe,
        Lol Coxhill, Steve Beresford), Sonny Sharrock, The Art Of The
        Slide Guitar feat. David Lindley, Henry Kaiser, Bob Brozman,
        Freddie Roulette, Scott Colby, and others - Bockenheimer Depot,
        Frankfurt
02/11 # Stereo MC's - Batschkapp, Frankfurt
03/11 # EMF/Pop Will Eat Itself - Music Hall, Frankfurt
04/11 # 25th Of May - Negativ, Frankfurt
      # Ministry - Music Hall, Frankfurt
10/11 # Alice Donut - KOZ/Uni Kampus, Frankfurt
      # Dead Moon - Batschkapp, Frankfurt
      # Shabba Ranks - Music Hall, Frankfurt
14/11 # Frankfurt Blues Night feat. Jean Shy and her Blues Band, Gypsys,
        Albert C. Humphrey, Christian Christl - Alte Oper, Frankfurt
15/11 # Zucchero - Alte Oper, Frankfurt
16/11 # Black Crowes - Hugonottenhalle, Neu-Isenburg
18/11 # Cozy Powell with Tony Martin and Neil Murray - Sinkkasten,
        Frankfurt (and Steinbruchtheater, Darmstadt)
19/11 # The Shamen - Music Hall, Frankfurt
25/11 # Laurie Anderson - Theater am Turm, Frankfurt (until 28/11)
30/11 # Peter and the Test Tube Babies - Batschkapp, Frankfurt
01/12 # Fischer Z - Music Hall, Frankfurt
      # Sugar - Batschkapp, Frankfurt
02/12 # STS and Band - Alte Oper, Frankfurt
10/12 # Motorhead/Saxon/others - Festhalle, Frankfurt
14/12 # Willy de Ville - Music Hall, Frankfurt
22/12 # Boxhamsters - KOZ/Uni-Kampus, Frankfurt


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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:40:47 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Revisiting an old friend

I just put a cut from Andy Summers's _World Gone Strange_ CD on a tape
for a friend last night (Note to the royalty police -- no I didn't) and
I realized what a great record this is.  Hint: do his sidemen Tony Levin
and Chad Wackerman sound familiar?  If you can find it, get it!

Two thumbs up from the Stark Fist of Removal.
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From: HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET (Paul Heroy)
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Subject: John Campbell Band
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:44:30 GMT
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Hey alla you blooz fans out there, I heard a really *killer* band Saturday
night in Nawlins (at a great club - Charlie B.'s, which I highly recommend)
called the John Campbell Band. JC (who's from Shreveport La.) plays acoustic
guitar, plus some steel & slide guitar, but he gets some wild sounds from it,
so much that we kept checking the rhythm player (who was playing a Strat) to
see if the electric sounds we heard were coming from him instead. Nope, it
was JC. He's also got a fantastic voice - deep, powerful, commanding, and has
'it'. This guy's great, and I've *never* heard of him before (not that I'm a
fount of blues knowledge or anything, but I've at least heard lots of names).
He had Richard Cousins on bass (Cousins used to play with Robert Cray). Has
anybody else heard of Campbell? If not, CHECK HIM OUT! This is one tight,
*smokin'* blues band!

Paul Heroy
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