From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: U.S. Citizen NRIs Please leave India alone (Re: BJP)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 27 JAN 93 08:40:56    


In article <1k2gr8INNcrp@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes...
>Virendra verma writes:
>>	I am doing a great service to India by fighting Indian negativism
>>	abroad. This is working. Today the USA and other countries have
>>	better understanding of India's problems because of the writing
>>	of Verma-like views.
> 
>	Ok, time to stop deluding yourself. But while you are still in that
>	stupor, tell me how exactly you are fighting the "Indian negativism".
>	By posting vedic garb.. err.. interpretations on sci? By barking
>	for BJP as if it was the holiest thing to have happened to India?
>	Or by being another cog in the DEC wheel?? Perhaps HSS is the
>	Indian saviour in US?
> 

	Yes. India is identified with Vedas and BJP-like mentality. Without
	it, it has no identity as has been going on for the last 45 years.
	India has to regain its identity first and only then it will be
	on the path of progress. Western thinking and technology is not
	good for Indian culture where both religion and science progress
	on equal grounds. Today if religion has a bad name or science
	community turns against religion, it is because of western culture 
	and religious mentality.

	Let us prove it by restoring Indian values in modern India because
	I can't bring the proof for the ancient achievments. We have tried
	the western model for 45 years, let us try Indian model for just
	10 years. See the difference. Don't be so intolerant if you are
	a true knowledge seeker.
> 
>	Forget the economic loss. The sheer destruction of human life and the
>	misery associated with it.... You might say every revolution has
>	this price associated but then every man likes to call his agenda
>	a "revolution". And revolution about what? UCC? that could have
>	been achieved in a much better way with a direct agitation for it
>	rather than whipping up a frenzy over a stupid Ram temple.
> 

	No. I don't say that. All human lives are important. Even the lives
	of those innocent victims murdered every year in all metropolitan
	cities in western countries. Don't be hypocrite. These lives are
	not important to you otherwise you would be crying for those lives 
	too. The plane and blunt fact is that your-mentality type of
	people are pushing your own hidden agendas and beliefs.

	I never justified violence. I always asked those in power to punish
	these violators of crime. Mosque was razed peacefully. The violence
	was created by Congress (I). They could not contain it or punish
	those murderers because they were behind it. It is a very simple
	logic and doesn't need a mighty brain.

> 
>	Verma, stop mouthing such inane bromides. Branding someone "pseudo"
>	just because his views are different from yours is juvenile. By that
>	token, you're a prime pseudoid.
> 

	We have given plenty of hypocritical behavior of these so called
	'secularists'. What's wrong with this new label? Secularism is
	not bad that is the only reason we have to isolate their 'actual'
	behavior from those of true secularists.

> 
> 
>	give me a break, you pietistic twit! Do you want to say you can't
>	get into a decent job in the private sector back home if you want
>	to, now? Why don't you just accept that you like the DEC floors
>	and the green bucks associated instead of spewing forth such
>	"I'm-a-patriotic-guy-but-the-system-is-bad" kind of views to project
>	a goody two-shoes image? Nothing wrong with liking the money.

	Don't do wishful thinking without knowing the guy. I had three
	decent jobs right after my Engg degree. I worked in India for four
	years before deciding that the system didn't work for me. It was
	not a happy decision. Today I am capable of supporting hungery people
	in India. I am even capable of establishing a business which can
	benefit India which she needs most as you might very well know. 
	I don't think I could have ever done that with my job in India. Even
	the GoI is finding it now that the system is not workable. How
	could I have been wrong?

	What would have been worst if I forgot India with all my lust for
	technology and money.
> 
>>
>>	I am not the one who get scared because my true wealth is my
>>	confidence, skill and motivation.
> 
> 
>	But you forget your biggest handicap : a muddled brain given to
>	frequent magalomania...  and o yes, "I'm a holy guy" syndrome....
> 
>	FFT

	Hey, it is working. Who cares what you think?

namaste,

-- Virendra Verma
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