HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: George_Greven@a68k.denver.CO.US (George Greven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Printing with A-MaxII+.  Is it fixed?
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:44:51 MST
Organization: The Arvada 68K BBS- Westminster, CO

You can also get Powerprint (works Great!) from Mac Connection or Mac Zone
for about $5 less than from Readysoft, but the big difference is that you
can get it overnight for about $3 more, as opposed to waiting about TWO
WEEKS from Readysoft.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
From: greaham@a.cs.okstate.edu (GREAHAM DARIN DONA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: ATOnce + software version 3.0?  Anyone Have it??
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:32:58 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater



   If anyone out there has the ATOnce + version 3.0 software, how about
posting it on a FTP site or something?!?  I have read on the net here that
this version is out, but I can't get through to GVP (the USA distrubter
of Vortex's ATOnce +) to get a copy.  Last time I talked to GVP, about a
month ago, they had no knowledge of the new software.


   So could some kind person who has the software please put it up
somewhere, anywhere!



     Thanx...



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From: givler@bermuda.cbm.commodore.com (Greg Givler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: 2386SX How to install zips
Keywords: zips 2386SX
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:09:45 GMT
Organization: Another Amiga UNIX System

In article <1992Oct8.204421.17740@csus.edu> wangf@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Franklin Wang) writes:
>Does anyone know the best way to install the zips in the 2386SX board?
>It looks like you have to solder them in...if so any hints on how to do
>and and what equipemnt to use to do it?
>

The zips are socketed. All you have to do is put them in the sockets.

>
>Franklin Wang

Greg

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From: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet (Teddy Wang)
Subject: Re: EMPANT and NeXT Emulation... Comming Soon?
Reply-To: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:59:26 GMT

>
>The i860 is only used on the NeXTdimension board.  This is a high-performance
>graphics board with all kinds of ins and outs, 32 bit color (8 alpha, 24 hue),
>etcetera.  The NeXTstation Color and NeXTstation Turbo Color, for example, are
>merely using their 68040s for their 16-bit (4 alpha, 12 hue) color.  Of course,
>every NeXT runs color software seamlessly due to the use of Display Postscript,
>which is fully device-independent and converts colors to gray scales and
>dithered patterns automatically when running on a machine with insufficient
>color support (Such as a mono 4-bit grayscale monitor (2 alpha, 2 hue)).
>

Oh No!!!!

They've done it again!!!  And even worse this time!!!  Not only have they
created another c.s.a.advocacy, but now their trying to recreate
c.s.next.advocacy ;)

Sorry just had to to it...  Didn't mean to offend anyone...

TEddy
     ////////                                         twang@csc.albany.edu
       //                                             twang@thor.albany.edu
      //                                              TWANG@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
     //  eddy Wang                                    TW5232@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
    //   Computer Art and Animation at SUNY Albany
         New Illusions      Albany, NY                  "Increase the Peace..."
From: jsurace@cco.caltech.edu (Jason A. Surace)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Amax in software form ONLY?
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:55:30 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

cf017@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher P Readence) writes:



>Is there a version of Amax that doesn't need the hardware or roms?
>I don't want to open up my Amiga and invalidate the warrenty, so
>it would be better if I could emulate a mac without having to install
>some hardware.

Yes. You can get Amax II (not II+), which is an external cartridge
that contains the ROMs and the drive interface. It plugs into the 
external drive port. There ARE software only versions of Amax, however,
these have been hacked to use a disk-based ROM image. Distributing the ROM
image is a copyright violation (well, I suppose if you own the ROMs you could
copy them to disk for personal use). As such, the software-only version
is really a pirated version. If you have the ROMs, there a utility on wuarchive
called "FastAmax" or something similar to do the ROM patch.


                                       - Jason Surace
                                 jason@ipac.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: mkiteam@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (E.Japel)
Subject: Vortex Golden Gate 386 Emulator
Summary: Want info on Vortex's Golden Gate 386 emulator.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:18:54 GMT
Keywords: Vortex Golden Gate Emulator


I have heard rumors about a 386 emulator from Vortex (makers of the ATonce) called the Golden Gate 386.  Ihave heard it was available in Europe, but have not  
seen any reference to it in the United States as yet.  I would be interested in getting the specs for it (what Amigas does it work in, is it a bridge board in that you canput PC/AT cards (such as a video card) with it, can it use existing 
Amiga HD's and other peripherals for the DOS side, does it multi-task, how can I get it)  I don't remember ever seeing a review for it in an American Amiga     magazine, so I don't have much info, but am VERY interested.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Ed Japel@osiris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried Krueger)
Subject: Re: AMAX II+ and GVP 030 Problems
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:24:27 GMT

fillmore@emr1.emr.ca (Bob Fillmore 992-2832) writes:

[...]

>I'm suspecting that A-Max is assuming the accelerator card has an MMU,

Right you are

>so I am thinking of replacing the 68030EC with a real 68030.

That's a wise decision!
 
>I am going to call ReadySoft and/or GVP as soon as I get some time.

>-- 
>Bob Fillmore, Technical Services Division          email: fillmore@emr.ca

winnie.
From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant letter
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:36:20 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada


   I sent e-mailed the following letter to Jim Drew a week ago. I guess he
doesn't reply to his mail. Since he seems to reply to messages (even the most
inane ones!) I'll try that route. Jim?


   First of all, I'd like to congratulate you on shipping Emplant. I would
have had a lot less patience with the childish whiners (Who will probably
never buy an Emplant OR an Amax!).

   However, now that it's shipping, I'm VERY interested in it (I will buy
either Amax or Emplant in the next month or so, since I have given up on
Commodore). So, a few questions:

1. Display: - I assume that the "standard" display is 640x480 with 4-bit
  colour, achieved by using high-res overscanned interlace. Correct?
- How do you deal with the fact that the ROMS will tell the program
  that 8-bit colour is available?  Do you approximate with 4-bit?
  Use HAM (yuk!)?  Or does it crash (honest answer, please:  If it
  does, I'll avoid the apps that do this)

2. Compatibility:
- What programs have you tested?
- If I do NOT get the SCSI option, does the "Mac" see my A3000's
  SCSI bus transparently?  In other words, Can I mount a Mac CD-ROM
  on the A3000's SCSI port, install the driver under System 7, and
  read Mac CDs under System 7?
- Does the Emplant support full 32-bit memory, or does it require
  MODE32?
- Does it have a MIDI port?
- Will it work in my A3000? ( I hear several cards, such as
  AmigaLive! and the Toaster, do not fit)

3. ROMS:
- Do I need 256K ROMS, or can I buy 128K now, and upgrade to 256K
  later (I understand that I will only have B/W with the 128K ROMS)
- Where can I get the 256K ROMS? This question is critical - I see
  no reason to buy Emplant if I can't get the 256K ROMS.
- How much are they?

   Again, congratulations for getting it "out the door" and thanks in
advance for any help or info that you can give me. Ain't Internet grand?

                                            Lloyd Sumpter, P. Eng
                                            L. Sumpter Consulting
                                         (Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca)


--

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<semi-YAHOO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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             "Amiga made it - Commodore screwed it up"
From: kimberg+@CMU.EDU (Daniel Kimberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: AMAX II+ and GVP 030 Problems
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:26:53 GMT
	<bmccnnll.719233845@unix1.tcd.ie>
Organization: Doctoral student, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

just to clear up some misinformation.

while it is true that amax does not seem to work with 68EC030 boards,
it isn't exactly true (as suggested here by winfried krueger) that the
reason for this is the incompatibility of mac software with this chip,
or that amax assumes the chip has an mmu.  this is what made it a
problem in the first place, but it remains a problem because
readysoft's fix for this did not work.  again according to raymond at
readysoft, one of the problems 2.51 was supposed to cure was the EC030
problem.  2.51 certainly does, in an abstract sense, recognize the
lack of an mmu, as it says so (unlike 2.50).  it also crashes further
along in 2.51.  it just happens that their fix does not work very
well.  also according to raymond, it worked just peachy on their own
board (i can't imagine how this could be true if they tested it beyond
bringing it to the finder).  finally, 2.51 does recognize the lack of
an mmu in the chip, it just fails to do the right thing about it.  so
the problem isn't the macintosh software -- after all, some mac
software will run on machines without mmus.  the problem is that
amax's patch doesn't work.

68000 mode is cute but nearly useless.  it's excruciatingly slow, and
on some boards, going into 68000 mode also cancels out the scsi
controller.

suggesting that anyone should have bought a regular 030 version
instead, by the way, is ignorant.  the 030 version that fit within my
budget at the time was much slower.  the only things i've sacrificed
are amax (which was supposed to work, but which isn't very important
to me) and enforcer, for which i haven't had much use until now.  it
was a trade-off and i selected on the basis of what was more important
to me (speed).  if you would have selected differently, you may say
so.

dan
From: billc@cryo.RAIN.COM (William J. Coldwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant is vapor.. *FACTS*
Summary: refer to alt.sick.of.this
Keywords: smoke poof mirrors vapor joke laugh
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:49:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: percy.BvtoMD.J2J
Reply-To: billc@cryo.rain.com
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR
X-Phrasemonger: Somewhat Nice (V3.0 Beta)
X-Newssoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.6.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
X-Signaturemonger: Nice (V1.1)

For all of you non-believers:

Emplant is really an Amiga emulator.  You plug it in to your Amiga, turn on
the power and *poof*, you have an Amiga.

Some answers to your questions:

* - Will I be able to use the Amiga facilities such as serial, parallel,
    SCSI harddrives, floppies, video?  Sure.  Complete emulation is provided.

* - Will I be able to run Mac software?  Nope.  Only if you plug an AMax
    cartridge/board in.

* - Can I get one?  Dunno, I think everyone who posted in c.s.a.emulations
    has to pay the "increased because I posted in c.s.a.e or sent Jim stupid
    mail" price.  I believe the scale is relative to the amount of times that
    you did post.  Of course, if your name ends with Trew, you are ineligible
    at any price ;-))).

* - What about the delays?  Delays happen.  Life happens.  FCC hell happens.

* - Is it for real?  I'd say "judge for yourself", but most of you can't do
    that without help. ;-)))

* - Can I get a screen shot?  Why?  Being as skeptical as you are, you'd
    say that it was drawn in DPaint.

For all of you believers:

I finished the serial device (empser.device) that allows you to use the RS422
serial ports in Amiga mode.  I will have the SCSI software done very shortly.
I will have the Amiga AppleTalk software working on the Emplant shortly after
that.  And, to answer your question:  I do have one in my machine.  I am
currently working with Jim on distribution rights.

But hey, who am I to dash your beliefs ;-))).
-- 
#Disclaimer:  Sorry.  That's just the way it goes.
#This Amiga developer has amused himself to death.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: AMAX II+ and GVP 030 Problems
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:53:15 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 <EerKtfO00jWR45cYk0@andrew.cmu.edu>,<1992Oct16.083326.17384@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Oct16.083326.17384@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried Krueger) writes:
>kimberg+@CMU.EDU (Daniel Kimberg) writes:
>
>Macintosh software doesn't know about cheap-ass EC CPUs: Apple never
>released a 030 based Macintosh without MMU.

I am not sure, but i don't think that the Classic II/ LC II have MMUs...

hmmm....not really sure though...don't recall virt mem working on them.



>
>>dan
>
>winnie.
>


Jim
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From: "Erik S. Kolar" <ekolar@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Emplant and >erghhh..<
Organization: Only Amiga Makes It Possible!
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:49:13 -0500

In article <1992Oct7.230053.7855@cs.sfu.ca> kenward@cs.sfu.ca (Kenward Chin) writes:
>You know, with all the talk about Emplant and NeXT, Emplant and Quadra,
>et cetera, I'm surprised noone has asked about:
>
>   ATARI EMULATION!   :-)  :-)  (wait while I put on my asbestos suit...)

Yeah!  How 'bout Falcon emulation, Jim?  Silence all those Atari whiners over
in .advocacy.  8-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT pricing
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 08 Oct 92 10:36:21 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: cardinal@amiganet.chi.il.us's message of 7 Oct 92 02:53:07 GMT

>>>>> On 7 Oct 92 02:53:07 GMT, cardinal@amiganet.chi.il.us (Paul Nowatzki) said:

> In article <ANIL.92Oct6005953@chobi.cs.titech.ac.jp>, anil@cs.titech.ac.jp
> (Anil Bhatia) writes:
>>Jim Drew,
>>Please could you explain why the price of EMPLANT is going to be
>>raised in the near future.

Think of it as "Why do early buyers get a discount", and it sounds better.

> Ever hear of supply and demand?

Maybe he just saw how well it worked for the NewTek with the Toaster.
At least he's warning people.
--
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Shape Data - A division of EDS-Scicon Limited.   Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Elizabeth E Sack)
Subject: Eplant? really?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:03:23 GMT


Has anyone noticed that it has been about 2 weeks since Jim Drew said that
Emplant was shipping, and we still have yet to have someone post a review on
it.

I would think that by now, *SOMEONE* who posts into this newsgroup would have
one.

Also, has anyone noticed how JD has been very scarce lately?
From: app@shamash.cdc.com ( GSD Advanced Packing/Processes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Epson printer drivers for Amax
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:42:01 GMT
Organization: Control Data, Arden Hills, MN

In article <lgibb.04bu@burner.com> lgibb@burner.com (Lance Gibb) writes:
>AGA> The Epson driver I'm using is from the Amax Utilities file (on 
>AGA> wuarchive) printing on my in Epson looks great!
>
>Where on wuarchive is this file?  I looked high and low for it after
>I saw your post, but I cannot find an AMAX utils section.
> 
>
>--- Via UCI v1.12 (C-Net Amiga)


Ok, here is the location:  systems/amiga/incoming/misc/A-MaxUtils.SEA

I tried it again last night and discovered that if I print in draft mode, I
get no line feeds on my printer.  Everything types over and over on the 
first line.  Graphics mode at high resolution looks good with the True Type 
fonts.


Mike







Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.emulations:4363 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:17039
From: johnl@SDFSERV.hac.com (John Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Has anyone used the macfloppy hack on a 3000?
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:07:21 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, El Segundo, CA

In article <1992Oct12.170146.7341@en.ecn.purdue.edu> wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner) writes:
>Has anyone successfully used the macfloppy interface hack on a 3000?
>I can't get mine to work.  I have checked and rechecked my solder connections.
>I am an electronics technician and have built several projects before.
[...]
>What's wrong with my macfloppy interface/setup?
>Is this interface "plug and play"?  Do I need a mountlist entry?
>Any ideas?

If this "macfloppy" interface is what I think it is (two chips, one a
multiplexor, the other a dual 4-bit counter, I think), then it is basically
a schematic for an AMax cartridge with the ROM interface deleted.  It will
not function as a normal Amiga drive.  In fact, it won't function as-is
as a Mac drive interface for AMax, either.  You'll need a custom program/
device driver/filesystem to use it under AmigaDOS.  I've heard rumors that
Mac2Dos will supposedly work with it, although your experience seems to
rule that out.


>Another question:
>It seems to me that the computer only checks for attached floppy drives 
>upon startup.  After startup, it won't check for added drives.  
>Is this correct?  I realize the fastest way to blow 8520's is to 
>connect/disconnect floppy drives with power on.  I've replaced several
>on friends' machines! 

Well, the system will automatically mount floppy drives only at boot-time.
If you have, say, a floppy that you somehow enable after then, you can use
a mountlist and the Mount command to mount the floppy drive after startup.


>Thanks for any suggestions.
You're welcome.

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The above opinions are those of the user and not of those of this machine.
From: vidiot@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Rankin Eric)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant and Amiga World
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:54:00 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

sheasby@dgp.toronto.edu (Michael Sheasby) writes:

> atul@Cadence.COM (Atul Srinivasan) writes:
> 
> >Aside, 2.51 does not work with a Fusion Forty Accelerator. Period.
> 
> WHOAH! WHOAH! WAIT A MINUTE!!
> 
> are you serious? are you sure? I'm a FF040 owner, and am waiting for
> an excuse to pick up AmaxII+. are you *certain*?  (and why doesn't
> it? I was under the impression that AII+ was 040 friendly, and I've
> never seen a program for 040's that the Fusion Forty rejected)
> 
> ---Mike.
> 

The original poster specifically stated that he had no knowlege of AMax 
II+, only 2.51--please re-read the original post.

Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: gbrandt@muug.mb.ca (Gregor Brandt)
Subject: emplant  money vs. delivery
Summary: I ordered it and don't have it yet
Keywords: emplant
Organization: Manitoba Unix User Group, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:49:32 GMT

I have ordered the emplant, paid for it ( by visa ) and have yet to
receive it.  Has this happened to anybody else?
 
Gregor
From: 2rs9acevedom@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Is my bridgeboard dead?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 03:37:08 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2rs9acevedom@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

In article <1992Oct12.023618.4440@netcom.com>, fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:
>2rs9acevedom@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>You've turned your Amiga into a giant disk cache for a PC!  AAAGGGHH!!!!


As long as I still have more memory on the Amiga Side than on the IBM side I
don't sin, do I? ;-)
From: Jim_Drew@cryo.RAIN.COM (Jim Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT pricing
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:35:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cryo.Jim_Drew.0e8b
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.25 beta (Oct 02 1992)


In <ANIL.92Oct6005953@chobi.cs.titech.ac.jp>, anil@cs.titech.ac.jp (Anil Bhatia) writes:
> Jim Drew,
> Please could you explain why the price of EMPLANT is going to be
> raised in the near future.
> Is the newer version goin gto be less buggy, and therefore better?
> Is it going to have features that are not on the early  versions.
> This is not a dig at EMPLANT, but more at UU's marketing policy.
> I am not used to the price of things going up without a valid reason
> and I guess there must be one for EMPLANT.
> Anil
 
That is a simple question to answer...
 
The hardware (the final production unit) no longer accurately matches the
description first posted to the nets (and sent out in flyer format to
people).  We have added many features, and the price from the beginning
(due to the versatility of this product) was just too cheap...
 
The units being shipped are the same units that will always be shipped. 
People who take advantage of the current price will get it for that price,
as an "introductory offer" only.
 
The real price goes into effect November 1st.  Prices will be as follows:
 
BASIC Unit.....................$279.95
Option A (BASIC + AppleTalk)...$349.95
Option B (BASIC + SCSI int)....$349.95
Deluxe (BASIC+AppleTalk/SCSI)..$399.95
 


Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
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