From: pkang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Pablo Kang)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:36:32 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct1.150523.20549@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> apash@mta.ca writes:
>In article <u882517.717902263@bruny>, u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!) writes:
>>kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>>>BAD POINT. That makes no sense. So they can start churning out Tiffany-style
>>>music and I should still adore them?
>>>"Rape me like a child... christened in blood... painted like an unknown saint... 
>>>the only choice is left... your voice is dead and old and always empty..."
>>>vs.
>>>"Monday Tuesday Wednesday blahblahblah..."
>>
>>>Even Lovesong was great IMOFOSPO because it took convention and turned it on
>>>its head... "Whenever I'm alone with you/You make me feel like I am free again"
>>>So let's just lay it on the line... once the Cure made some good music... as
>>>recently as 1989 by my count, but the best was 1980-1982. So I'm not a "real
>>>fan" for no longer adoring them? Oh no! Certainly not like those high school
>>>kids with their _Wish_ t-shirts!! 

>>Hear, hear!  This is the most accurate description of the way things stand
>>with the Cure I hace read.  The best track record in the world does not even
>>slightly excuse the lame shite on _Wish_...I just don't really care what
>>they do any more.  I wish they'd split up after _Disintegration_, because
>>that would have been the ultimate epitaph.
>>			Matt.

>   What exactly is your problem anyhow? The way I see it is you think
> that just because_Wish_ went Top 10 that The Cure are no longer
> alternative.The album _Wish_ is just as alternative and just as
> much Cure as any other Cure album. So what if they have a couple
> happy,poppy songs on it, that's not exactly anything new for them
> (Why can't I be you?,Love cats, Hot Hot Hot,etc.). I happen to like
> a lot of those songs and they are just as much of the Cure as their
> slow depressing songs and if for some reason you don't like those 
> songs then listen to the rest of_Wish_ it's not exactly what I'd call
> "lame shit". IMHO the Cure haven't changed their sound any with _Wish_
> and if you want to dislike the Cure just because they got a Top 10 hit
> then I guess that's your perogative. In my opinion that's just as bad as
> the Top 40 junkies disliking a band because they don't have a Top 10 hit.
>                                                  A.Pash

  I agree with A. Pash. What is everyone's problem here? If you guys feel
  that Robert Smith just recently started churning out poppy tunes, why
  don't you guys listen to their older stuff AGAIN? Here's a few sample 
  tunes that may interest you:

         Boys Don't Cry, Just Like Heaven, In Between Days

  I don't know about you guys, but to me, they sound fairly 'poppy'.
  Listen to _Wish_ all over, and you'll see that the songs are structured
  very similar to their older stuff. The only difference being that they're
  more heavily based on guitars in _Wish_ then on their past few albums.

  Sure the lyric style have somewhat changed from the past, but tell me
  one thing...when haven't they?  Listen to the Cure from album to album and
  you'll notice that they differ in many ways. Do you really believe that
  Three Imaginary Boys LP is the same as Pornography is the same as Head
  on the Door is the same as Kiss meX3 is the same as Disintegration is the
  same as Wish?  I think not.

  Alternative...just because one song (count them, one song) went up top
  10 you deem the Cure NOT to be alternative? So you mean to tell me the
  Cure stopped being alternative when Lovesong hit #2? Music is music,
  and that's what the Cure is trying to churn out. Listen to Wish carefully,
  "A Letter to Elise," "High," "Open," "End," "Trust," "From the Edge of
  the Deep Green Sea." Tell me that that's not the Cure and I'll tell you
  one thing, to go back and listen to your old albums and see their progression
  and similarities in music styles. 

  Just my 2 cents. ;-)

pablo 


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