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Linux-Activists Digest #486, Volume #3            Thu, 5 Nov 92 18:30:48 EST

Contents:
  Swapfiles under 98.3 (Joshua M Yelon)
  Bugs in LINUX tar (?) (Joshua M Yelon)
  'mkswap' missing. (Joshua M Yelon)
  some questions... (Peter Pui Tak Chiu)
  Re: Free UNIX for sale (pete cervasio)
  Re: Free UNIX for sale (Jim Stewart)
  Re: Do I have to clear DOS partition? (Mark Evans)
  Re: h Ha! Things Work! (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
  Question about setting up X w/Diamond SpeedStar 24X/Paradise vid cards (Sam Shim)
  Re: Uucp ? Working ? (Rick Kelly)
  More colours ? (Paul Douglas Page)
  MAXTOR (91066720 j r selleck)
  Applications .. Benefits .. what do you do with it ? (91066720 j r selleck)
  fig2dev (Marcus Wunderlich)
  Re: BBS software for linux? (Vince Skahan)
  Re: cron gets stuck. (Vince Skahan)
  Re: News reader for Linux (Vince Skahan)
  HELP ME PLEASE! :) (David Ayre)
  Linux and my Motherboard (Yugene Loh)
  Anyone compile gwm-1.7 with Linux ? (ANDRE SKARZYNSKI)
  Re: MAXTOR (Kevin Routh)
  IDE faster than SCSI-2 (Othman Ahmad)
  Scheme for Linux (Karl Fogel)
  Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ) (Dennis Dingeldein)
  Re: Joe source available ??? (hodgen@infko.uni-koblenz.de)

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From: jy10033@ehsn11.cen.uiuc.edu (Joshua M Yelon)
Subject: Swapfiles under 98.3
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:32:07 GMT

I have been using a swapfile (not a swap partition, a swap FILE) for
some time now with no difficulty.  However, last night, I just did
a big upgrade to 98.3 and the extended filesystem.  Now, swapfiles
just don't seem to work.  (I can easily get a swap partition to work,
but I don't want to repartition my harddisk again, I spent all of
yesterday doing that!)  Is there anybody out there who can get 98.3+
extfs+swapfile to work?

- Josh


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From: jy10033@ehsn11.cen.uiuc.edu (Joshua M Yelon)
Subject: Bugs in LINUX tar (?)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:42:57 GMT

Last night I switched from minix FS to ext FS.  Here are the steps
I went through:

* tarred my whole filesystem using gnu tar, split tarfile onto floppies.
* reformatted hard disk using mkefs. 
* reloaded software from floppy using the tar on the 0.98 rootdisk.

Much to my chagrin, though, the tar on the root floppy didn't seem
to quite understand the tarfile format: it loaded the files up ok,
and got all the chmod bits right, but got most of the file ownerships
wrong!  Needless to say, this took a long time to fix.

It may be important that I use UID's greater than 1000...  although
I can't see why that would be a problem, it IS unusual.
 

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From: jy10033@ehsn11.cen.uiuc.edu (Joshua M Yelon)
Subject: 'mkswap' missing.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:46:09 GMT

While trying to figure out the swapfile bug, I discovered that
the source code for 'mkswap' isn't at tsx-11 or sunsite.


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From: ppc1@cec1.wustl.edu (Peter Pui Tak Chiu)
Subject: some questions...
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:21:02 GMT


hi dear linux users,

i would like to ask the following questions:

1. how do you compare linux and 386bsd?
2. where to get X-windows system for linux? (is Xfree the only choice?)
3. where to get linux?
4. which one would you recommend, linux/386bsd?
5. are there more softwares available for linux than 386bsd?
6. is there software like: ada, lisp, scheme, prolog for linux?

i would really appreciate it if you can kindly give me a reply.

please send email to ppc1@cec1.wustl.edu

thanx a lot!!!

peter







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From: pete@q106fm.uucp (pete cervasio)
Subject: Re: Free UNIX for sale
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 00:05:38 CST

torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:

| In article <1992Nov4.140106.3873@fwi.uva.nl> stolk@fwi.uva.nl (Bram) writes:
.......
| >I dont know about you, but I would be pissed off, if someone
| >started making money on the stuff I worked so hard at.
| 
| Why be pissed off? It's really a compliment.  And believe me: getting
| money may be fun, but when you get T-shirts, virtual beer, book offers
| and enough money to pay off your computer, *even without asking for it*
| (dropping a few hints, maybe ;-), it's worth a lot more.  Hey, I might
| no get rich on linux, but I'm certainly being poor with style, eh?

Hey, if you ever get to St. Louis, MO, on a Saturday night, come to a
bar named "Rivers" (on the Mississippi river landing) and look for the
DJ booth.  Tell the folks there that you're looking for me.  We
broadcast live there every Saturday night and you and I will try to
drink the tab up... if you can stand American beer, that is... :-)

(I've saved the description Lars gave a while back, so you other folks
can forget trying to impersonate him just for the free beer!) :-)

Pete C.

+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Pete Cervasio                | pete%q106fm.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu     |
| I fish, therefore I am.      | pete.cervasio@f1.n2250.z1.fidonet.org |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+
|  If you think of C as a preprocessor for your assembler, it makes    |
|                   just as little sense as before.   (me)             |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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From: stewart@wimsey.bc.ca (Jim Stewart)
Subject: Re: Free UNIX for sale
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:36:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.162315.26780@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:
|       [...stuff about the joys of free software deleted...] 
| ... Hey, I might
|no get rich on linux, but I'm certainly being poor with style, eh?
                                                               ^^^^
Linus! you ARE a Canadaian !!! ... this .fi stuff is just to keep the
press from hounding you... right? 
|
|               Linus

js  from_C_eh?_N_eh?_D_eh?_:)


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From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: Do I have to clear DOS partition?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:24:51 GMT

waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg) writes:
: Hi,
: 
: I'm just new to this newsgroup and this is probably a FAQ, but anyway:
: 
: I have a harddisk with C: and D: DOS partitions and I want to install Linux
: on the D-partition. Can I install Linux *WITHOUT* removing the data from
: DOS partition C:? (I know when I run the DOS fdisk program, all data on all
: partitions will be lost. Is this also true for the Linux fdisk program?)

What version of fdisk are you using, usually it will only touch the
partition you have altered.
Linux fdisk only does anything with the MBR, it does nothing with
the data on the rest of the disk.
If you alter a partition (especially if you reduce the size of it) you should
reformat it.
Thus if you don't touch the partition table entry for C: then you will
not loose any data.

How is your disk currently partitioned?
At a guess 
/dev/hda1 MSDOS  (c:)
/dev/hda2 EXTENDED 
/dev/hda3 empty
/dev/hda4
/dev/hda5 MSDOS (d:) (logical partition)

In this case you can leave /dev/hda1 alone, not touching your c: drive
and do what you like to the other partitions 
-- 
=========================================================================
Mark Evans                                   |evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk
+(44) 21 565 1979 (Home)                     |evansmp@cs.aston.ac.uk
+(44) 21 359 6531 x4039 (Office)             |

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From: ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: h Ha! Things Work!
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:10:59 GMT

tim.foley@rose.com (tim foley) writes:


|Date Entered: 11-03-92 12:04
| 
|  Finally...things are a little more organized!  I got getty_ps and
|installed UU-GETTY...works like a charm (So Far... :). Should be added to
|SLS!
haven't given it a proper go yet, although i used the wrong syntax when i
did, and then discovered my bootdisks were stuffed, and had to sector edit
my inittab file to comment out the uugetty call :(
my own fault entirely...

But it works now...
Do you need to do anything to dial out of the line or does it work that
out itself ?
(i haven't done any real testing yet...)
| 
|  Thanks for all the help with the stupid uucp problem... 
| 
|Now back to older nagging problems...
| 
|       1)  Where can I find the lib LIBTERMLIB.A ?
Change your makefile to use the library called termcap instead
ie. change -ltermlib to -ltermcap
That usually works...[B
| 
|       2)  How do you apply kernel patches (0.98.1 to 098.3 eg)
|           (Or is there a faq or doc on this somewhere....)
Well, there oughta be...
I'm quite sure there is somewhere.
Anywyay, get the source, and untar it so it ends up in /usr/src/linux
then cd /usr/src and say
patch < patchfile
and away you go...
watch out for it saying "hunk failed", although it goes by so fast
you may want to do patch < patchfile | tee file
and look through file afterwards...

| 
|       3)  Anyone solved the mysterious lock-up system for no
|           reason bug?  I actually had the system running for a day
|           and a half with no problems...then...screeech!
Hardly had it, although i haven't really the need to leave it running all
the time (yet 8-)

BTW, what happened to trapping of Ctrl-Alt-Del to call reboot ?
It disappeared towards the end of 0.97-start of 0.98, and i kinda
miss it (no drama, just wondering...)

Cos !
-- 
Andrew J. Cosgriff !    ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au
                        ins217t@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
                        cos@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
"Language is a virus from outer space" - William S. Burroughs

------------------------------

From: shim@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sam Shim)
Subject: Question about setting up X w/Diamond SpeedStar 24X/Paradise vid cards
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:48:21 GMT

   I currently have X running on my PC, but only in 640x480.  However,
my Diamond SpeedStar 24X is supposedly compatible with the Paradise
chipset, so I was able to bring up X in 800x600, but it was interlaced.
Now I'm trying to set it up for 800x600 non-interlaced.  I would appreciate
any suggestions on how to do it.  I especially would like to know how
other people with the 24X video card have set up X.  In addition, I would
also like to know how people with Paradise cards currently have X configured.
Are they get an interlaced mode running X in 800x600?

   I also have several questions about X that hopefully someone can answer.
1. What exactly are the 'clocks' numbers in Xconfig?  Do these numbers have
   to be in any particular order?  How do these numbers apply to each video
   mode?
2. How do you set up Linux so xdm starts automatically?
3. And, can someone point me to where I can get the wd90C00 video driver
for X?

   Thanks!

-Sam-

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Uucp ? Working ?
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:49:47 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <720766658snx@grendel.demon.co.uk> jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave) writes:
|
|In article <TERJEVE.92Nov2130311@bera.ifi.uio.no> terjeve@ifi.uio.no (Terje Vernly) writes:
|
| 
|> You will have to escape til !-sign, or else the shell will interpret
|> it.  When then shell encounters '!/user/src/LISTING' it will search
|> the command-history for a command beginning with '/user/src/LISTING'
|> and excute it.  Try typing '!ls', and the shell will execute the last
|> ls you did.
|> 
|> Try this : uucp nucleus\!/user/src/LISTING listing
|If you're using bash and this works, please let me know. As far as I know,
|bash will kindly not search the history - that's the good bit - but
|leaves the backslash in the command line - the not so clever bit. You
|need to use the bash command to stop ! expansion to get around this. I
|raised this question a whil back and several people responded with the
|correct incantation to stop history expansion. Unfortunately, I can't
|remember it at the moment, and since I have to read news under dos until
|I can get slip and tcp/ip running, I can't read the man page to tell you
|what the command is. I fear bashes escaping of ! is broken.


To turn off csh history searching in bash:

set +H

-- 

Rick Kelly      rmk@rmkhome.UUCP        unixland!rmkhome!rmk    rmk@frog.UUCP

------------------------------

From: pdp@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Paul Douglas Page)
Subject: More colours ?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 20:16:44 +1100

I have a Tseng Mega Eva 2 board in my Linux system and it's capable
of producing 32,000 colours in 800x600 mode under DOS. I would like
to display files that I produce in Rayshade or POVray in 32,000
colours under Linux. Has anyone written a program to do this?
Or could someone point me in the right direction of whats required
and I will have a go myself?

Thanks in advance.

------------------------------

From: jrsellec@socs.uts.edu.au (91066720 j r selleck)
Subject: MAXTOR
Date:  5 Nov 92 08:17:33 GMT

 was wondering if Linux gets along with a 213 Mb Maxtor Hd.

 I dont yet have linux or the HD as linux does fit on an 80 MB HD that has only 8 megs left after windows and games... :(  Maybe I should get my priorites right ?!?!?

 Any way I was looking at getting a MAXTOR HD  it is 213 Megs and has a 15 ms access time..`
 Thats about all I know about it, but I was hoping someone who uses both could tell me what they think..

 James


------------------------------

From: jrsellec@socs.uts.edu.au (91066720 j r selleck)
Subject: Applications .. Benefits .. what do you do with it ?
Date:  5 Nov 92 08:21:05 GMT

 have heard a fair bit about linux and how good it is..
 I would like to be able to do my uni programming assignments at home and figure that linux would offer me this..

 But what else can I do with it ??
 Do I give over 30 megs of HD just for programming when I already have Borland c++

 What other programs are available  ??  Are their any games (of what sort) and are their any word processors or other stuff that I would normally use my PC for ??

 Is it worth the trouble on a 386 25 (with no cache) * megs RAM ?

 Thanks to whoever replies !

 James


------------------------------

From: wunder@dfv.rwth-aachen.de (Marcus Wunderlich)
Subject: fig2dev
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 17:54:46 GMT

Hi Linuxers,

during the last weeks I saw some of you looking for the binary
fig2dev which translates fig-files into latex- or postscript-format.
Some days ago I compiled it and if some of you are interested I try
to make it available as a binary.

Marcus

-- 
____________________________________________________________________________
Marcus Wunderlich           Germany
Habsburger Allee 23         Tel.  : +49-241-79986
W-5100 Aachen               e-mail: wunder@dfv.rwth-aachen.de

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From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: BBS software for linux?
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:00:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.225709.25324@iitmax.iit.edu> thssgxd@iitmax.iit.edu (Gautam Das) writes:
|Hi everyone,
|
|I recall reading news sometime back about a bbs software source
|available for linux. I can't remember what the name of the package
|was. Can any one tell me what the name of this package is and 
|where it is available (ftp site)?

Tom Dell's 'waffle' bbs works perfectly with Linux.
$120.00 for the sources.



-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
    Running Linux/C-news/trn/Elm/Smail - we don't need no steenkin' MS-DOS 

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From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: cron gets stuck.
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 18:58:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.174856.22567@muug.mb.ca> gkm@muug.mb.ca (Greg K. Moeller) writes:
|I'm using cron to spawn UUCP and news shells, etc.
|The problem is that when I replace the crontab entry for either of these
|(crontab -u news -r news.tab[as root]) the entryy gets replaced ok, but cron
|gets stuck.  It doesn't do anything for anyone at all.  I have to kill it
|and restart it.  From my reading of the docs for cron, it's supposed to
|notice that the file has changed, and re-read it.
|

I've found that if I change a crontab entry, I have to do a "
        "kill `cat /etc/cron.pid` ; /etc/crond" 
to get cron to reinitialize off the new entry.  I tried a kill -HUP but
it killed it dead rather than re-initializing off the files.






-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
    Running Linux/C-news/trn/Elm/Smail - we don't need no steenkin' MS-DOS 

------------------------------

From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: News reader for Linux
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:14:23 GMT

Esemi@polaris.utu.fi (Sami-Pekka Hallikas) writes:

|Do I have to say more ?.. I need good Newsreader (ftp address) like Unix
|rn, trn or nn.

I just got the 'nn6.4.16' from sunsite.unc.edu to work tonight,
so you'll see that in a future newspak with matching pathnames,
etc. with the other pieces.

The key is that the current nn on sunsite is set to use the optional
'words' in the nndb rather than the default 'numbers' to represent 
each newsgroup.  

I'm running vanilla linux without the long filename extensions,
so I can't run the extended filenames in the nn database.

thanks to David Black for uploading 'nn' and to Jurgen Kammer for
the e-mail'd offer of help (and to all the other folks whose names
escape me at the moment)!!!

So, the inventory goes like this at this time:
        C-news (with or without the '92 optional speedups)
        trn2.2
        tin1.1pl4
        nn6.4.16
        smail3.1.28

Others have the current patchlevels of trn/tin/nn running so I'll
grab the additional patch or two for each and make them available
in a future newspak.  I'll also continue to include readme.linux
files and config files in a separate .tar.Z file that includes all
the parts of newspak so folks can just grab the config files if they
have the sources already but can't get 'em to work.

[...PeterMacDonald - please drop me a line.  I'd like to include 
        the newspak stuff in a future SLS if you're interested...
        The last time I tried, I got your automatic mail reflector...]

-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
    Running Linux/C-news/trn/Elm/Smail - we don't need no steenkin' MS-DOS 

------------------------------

From: ayre@fraser.sfu.ca (David Ayre)
Subject: HELP ME PLEASE! :)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:14:46 GMT

Hi, I am still having troubles getting my Logitech Busman working with X11.

I have the SLS 0.98 dist. of linux.

Going on what I have read, everything is in order.  My mouse is on IRQ 5,
/dev/mouse has been "mknode 10 0", but X11 keeps either freezing up or
panicking on me! 

Has anyone been able to get there Logitech Busmouse to work under X?


In dire need of assistance,


Storm D. J. Petersen
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        ayre@sfu.ca     (attn: storm)
        storm@cyberstore.ca
        unix1009@192.68.67.1


------------------------------

From: gene@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Yugene Loh)
Subject: Linux and my Motherboard
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:22:45 GMT


Hi y'all,

Linux (both PL1 and PL3) hangs on me everytime after running 
for a given amount of time ranging from 30 seconds to 30 
minutes. I'd be forced to do a cold boot.

Here's my setup:

UMC motherboard (HEAT chipset (UM82C38x))
   386DX-25
Award BIOS
4Mb RAM (384K stolen for shadowing :( )
Seagate ST1126A IDE HDD ("swift" family)
Trident 8900 SVGA and Hercules compat. for monochrome
Sound Blaster Pro

I recently swapped back to my old motherboard (386SX-16) and 
everything works fine... but needless to say, X is unbearably 
slow.

Any takers?



gene.

------------------------------

From: andre@maties.sun.ac.za (ANDRE SKARZYNSKI)
Subject: Anyone compile gwm-1.7 with Linux ?
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:37:50 GMT

Hi All!

I have trouble getting gwm v1.7 to compile. The problem seems to occur with
flex. There seems to have trouble getting the lex stuff processed correctly,
it might aslo have something to do with bison as well. I am afraid this is 
rather sketchy, but I am not near my linux machine. I did use bison -y, so 
the simple stuff is no problem, it is just when one compiles the proccessed
code it complains about yytext and other things not been defined.

Any help or suggestions will be much appreciated.

Regards 
Andre.

------------------------------

From: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com (Kevin Routh)
Subject: Re: MAXTOR
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:52:38 GMT

jrsellec@socs.uts.edu.au (91066720 j r selleck) writes:
:  was wondering if Linux gets along with a 213 Mb Maxtor Hd.
: 
:  I dont yet have linux or the HD as linux does fit on an 80 MB HD that
:  has only 8 megs left after windows and games... :(  Maybe I should get
:  my priorites right ?!?!?
: 
:  Any way I was looking at getting a MAXTOR HD  it is 213 Megs and has
:  a 15 ms access time..`
:  Thats about all I know about it, but I was hoping someone who uses
:  both could tell me what they think..
: 
:  James
: 

I have heard that the Maxtor 213 does not get along with other IDE
drives.  You cannot mix it with a Seagate or a Conner IDE and have
them work together as master/slave.  I know two cases where it didn't
work.  Be careful!  It is tempting with the price of the Maxtor drive.
--
Kevin C. Routh                     Internet:    krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com
Ford Electronics                   IBMmail (PROFS):               USFMCTMF
ELD IC Engineering
17000 Rotunda Drive, B-121         Voice mail:              (313) 337-5136

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: IDE faster than SCSI-2
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:07:16 GMT

I posted an iozone benchmark using my 386/25Mhz machine which shows that
it is slightly slower than a SCSI-2 hard-disk. Now with a 486/33, IDE is
definitely faster than a EISA SCSI-2 486/50MHZ  hard-disk.
        Iozone uses normal unix system calls for writing to disks, after all,
that is how we write C programs.
        I may try to run a more sophisticated file system tester called
bi? later on.


 JUlian's machine 
 is a 50MHz EISA 486 with a 1.3GB drive attached via a Bustek 742a SCSI2
 adapter. It has 16MB of ram. Part of the disk (about 200MB is taken up 
 by mach2.6 and is unavailable to 386bsd.

I checked the load on this machine, it is very light. There is only another
user apart from I.

iozone 1

Writing the 1 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...1.766667 seconds
Reading the file...1.983333 seconds

IOZONE performance measurements:
        593534 bytes/second for writing the file
        528694 bytes/second for reading the file

Running on 486/33 with 256Kbyte RAM cache, maxtor 200Mbyte IDE hard-disk,
8Mbyte main RAM.

        Whereas the IDE runs XFree86 and open look window manager.
I only use 1 megabyte for test file size.

  IOZONE performance measurements:
        873813 bytes/second for writing the file
        452623 bytes/second for reading the file

        Both machine uses 386bsd 0.1 heavily patched, so the timing measurements
are consistent with each other.


--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet


------------------------------

From: kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel)
Subject: Scheme for Linux
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:33:01 GMT


        I have SCM, a free, copylefted Scheme implementation that is
fully R^4RS-compliant, running on my Linux system. Is anyone else
interested? I can upload the necessary binaries to a Linux site if
wanted. Or ftp to altdorf.ai.mit.edu and get the source yourself and
compile. SCM's only major flaw (that I've found at any rate) is that
it doesn't support bignums. Then again, the source code is there :-)

        I would be very interested in hearing about MIT-Scheme if
anyone has compiled it and gotten it running. It's huge, and it would
be a major pain for me download (what with disk quotas and all), so I
am loathe to go get it and compile it myself, but they do have a
version that's supposed to compile for i386 machines (v7.2), and in
fact, Linux is specifically mentioned as one of the PC-Unixes
("Unices"?) it should compile on, in the readme files. Anyone out
there got it running under Linux?

        If you want me to upload SCM, then email me or post to c.o.l. 

--

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From: dingelde@igd.fhg.de (Dennis Dingeldein)
Subject: Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ)
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:36:51 GMT

Hi!
Here are some question of a Linux-novice. Please post me your
opinion(s), even if you want to answer just one question.
Every mail is apprechiated, if there is a large echo I'll summarize.

1) Would you state that Linux is good enough to buy a PC just to run
   Linux/X11 on it ?

2) Is a 15'' Monitor (1024x768ni, >80Hz) "good" enough to read the X11
   default fonts of X11 ? Or is 15'' a pain ?

3) Does Linux support Local Bus Architectures ?

4) There is a S3 X Server 0.0. Is it a good idea to buy a S3 card 
   or will this server work only with some (a few) S3 cards, but not with
   the most/all cards ? (the low speed of 0.0 would be no problem, I believe
   that will change in the next months)

5) Is it a good idea to use one singe efs-partition of lets say 200 MB
   for all the Linux stuff ? Are there disadvantages for this efs solution
   (efs=extended file system) compared to a set of "usual fs" partitions ?

6) I noticed that mkefs failed ("not enough memory") to make a 160MByte
   efs on a 486 with 4MB memory. Is there a work around (besides using
   another partition as swap partition...). 140MB worked well (as I 
   remember)

Dennis
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(dingelde@igd.fhg.de)   Wilhelminenstr. 7                   mWm
                        D-6100 Darmstadt, Germany           ~.~
 Phone: +49/6151/155-112 Fax: +49/6151/155-199              \-/

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From: hodgen@infko.uni-koblenz.de
Subject: Re: Joe source available ???
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:23:03 GMT

In article <ellis.720844245@nova> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
|
|I just checked the availability of joe.  It is still available for anonymous
|ftp at wpi.wpi.com in /stusrc.

Could someone PLEASE put this onto tsx11 so that it gets onto the other
mirror sites? I've been looking for this for ages. Ever since I moved to 4.1
of the jump libs I've had to make do with vi.

Our winter semester only starts officially next week and I've already given
out 6 copies of Linux SLS 98. The amount of people who want a copy gets larger
every day. Well done folks!
-- 
Wayne Hodgen  | hodgen@infko.uni-koblenz.de | Opinions (c) Me 1991   | Intel SX
Uni Koblenz,  | (..!unido!infko!hodgen)     | Keeper of the Scrolls, |  Just
Rheinau 3-4,  | Voice: +49 261 9119-645     | Defender of the Net,   |   say
5400 Koblenz. | Fax:   +49 261 9119-499     | His name is "root".    |    NO!!!


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