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From: jds@sequent.com (Jerry Simmering)
Subject: Re: Go Lakers!!!!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:22:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.211450.11418@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60c-1hk@web-1c.berkeley.edu (Alvin Cham) writes:
>Hey Laker fans,
>
>As a Laker fan, I am proundly to say that the Lakers have been playing their 
>best basketball since the retirement of Magic.  Although their recent opponents
>aren't the ones that can really win the championship (except for Portland),
>but they have been blowing away every sub-500 teams convincingly at home.  
>Not too many teams can do that, I supposed....  But the question is, are
>they for real?  I still don't think that they can win the whole thing or even
>get past the second round in the playoffs even they are on pace to win 50+
>games.  Well, they are playing Phoenix this Friday, a tough test and a good
>chance to prove themselves.  Are they really good?  Let me hear what you
>guys think...
>
>						-alvin



   Dallas won thier first game in 13 tries last night by beating the Lakers.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!

   Thats what i think.  :-)
-- 
Jerry Simmering                 | GO Portland Trailblazers! 1992 W.C. Champs
Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.  | GO Atlanta Falcons! 
Beaverton, Oregon.              | GO Georgia Bulldawgs!
                                | GO Atlanta Braves! 1991 and 1992 NL Champs!    
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From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: Re: Jimmy : outta  DALLAS
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:54:54 GMT

>Is it really net concensus that JJ will be better than Simmons?
>Simmons is a pretty decent player.  Can the net gods tell me
>what they expect out of JJ for all statistical categories? Even
>if it is just a guess?  Thanks.
>Wayne.

Simmons is shooting about 40% this year for the field, which is actually lower
than the Maverick team incidentally.  I don't know his career percentage, but 
I see 40% and think, "Eeesh..."

GT
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From: daveyang@next01cville.wam.umd.edu (rumpshaker)
Subject: Re: non-kickers kicking (was Re: Kickers doing double duty as punters)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:49:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.221557.6228@rtsg.mot.com> swenson.rtsg.mot.com (R.  
Scott Swenson) writes:
> In article <1992Dec12.150149.3231@cis.ohio-state.edu>,  
martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:
> > 
> > In article <jq!r+!#@lynx.unm.edu> follick@jemez.eece.unm.edu (Jeremy  
Follick) writes:
> > >In article <1992Dec10.005142.48615@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>  
tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN) writes:
> > >>In article <1992Dec9.142539.7580@ncar.ucar.edu>,  
gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary St
> > >>rand) writes:
> > 
> > >>I was just watching one of those ESPN shows.  You know the ones,  
with all of
> > >>the old clips and such.  Anyway, there was this defensive player, I  
think his
> > >>name was Youngblood.  He was really great, and they had Dan  
Dierdorf, who
>   GET THIS OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
       Anyways Dan Dierdorf is the worst announcer on TV!!(replies??)
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From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Orlando Magic come back to earth
Keywords: Orlando
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 03:20:04 GMT

In article <1gaa5hINNam3@transfer.stratus.com>, halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin) writes:
|> In article <sf9vway00Uh7I6bmB1@andrew.cmu.edu>, bf25+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian Austin Fraze) writes:
|> > For all you Piston bashers, they took care of the big, bad, Shq attack
|> > last night, and Cleveland will be next. SHUT UP!!!!!!  
|> 
|> 
|> 	Big deal. So did the previous 4 or 5 teams that played the Magic before
|> the Pistons. Orlando has come back to earth after their fast start. Shaq is a
|> great player, but as a team Orlando still has a ways to go. They don't play very
|> good defense, as a team. Other than Shaq, they don't have any other strong
|> rebounders, so more and more teams are pulling their centers out to the
|> perimeter to open up the lane. I know the Celtics did that earlier this week.
|> Detroit, with Laimbeer shooting skills, is probably the team best suited to
|> this strategy.
|> 
|> -- 
|> !	Jim  Halpin
|> !	Stratus Computer
|> !	Marlboro, MA
|> !
|> !	halpin@turkey.sw.stratus.com

Agreed, even Golden State, a team not known for its size and rebounding,
badly outrebound the Magic  62-51.  If it wasn't for O'Neal's 17 rebounds,
the edge would have been worse.  The Magic don't have much size or
rebounding outside of the Shaq.  Victor Alexander who is a good perimeter
shooting center was used effectively to lure Shaq out of the paint.
After the initial shock of facing O'Neal, NBA teams are handling the
Magic better now, and the Magic are coming back down to earth.

					terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Strange Lakers
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:11:46 GMT
Organization: Misogynists Anonymous
NNTP-Posting-Host: itro7s.aero.org

Something I forgot to mention about the Lakers: you can't give
enough credit to James Edwards. A solid 13-15 minutes per game. 36
years old, he could shoot that sweet little step-back turnaround
of his forever. And he's taught it to Green and Divac, who used
it to advantage against Portland. He's a smart, cagey old pro
(remember he came in as a Laker; he actually started most of
his rookie year - or 2nd year? - when Kareem broke his hand
punching Kent Benson), and the best hope for guys like Vlade
and Elden Campbell is to learn everything they can from him.

		R.S.
From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Nbastats (tm)
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:59:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <42554@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kompella@cs.ucsd.edu (Vachaspathi Kompella) writes:
>
>
>Can someone tell me what the anonymous ftp site for nbastats (tm) is?
>Muchos gracias.
>
>-Vach

ftp ftp.wustl.edu
cd /doc/misc/nbastats  and browse around.

- nate
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE pho17orl17.11dec92
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:11:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Dec12.225628.19322@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>,
ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan) writes:
>pho 108, orl 107   11dec92
>
>pho (13- 4)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
>pho totals       240  40  87   8 19  20 31  17 45  28 25 13 18  2  2  0  0  108
>FG, 3P, FT averages:     .460   .421   .645       team rebs  8
>
>orl ( 8- 9)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
>orl totals       240  41  79   1  7  24 33  11 43  28 28  8 18  9  1  0  0  107
>FG, 3P, FT averages:     .519   .143   .727       team rebs  9

This is interesting.  Rebounds were about even.  (Phoenix: 45, + 8
team rebounds.  Orlando: 43, + 9 ream rebounds.)  Turnovers were
exacly even.  Made shots: almost even.  FTs: almost even.  So how
did Phoenix manage to get off 10% more shots than Orlando?

This is a really bizarre boxscore.  From the stats, it doesn't look
like Phoenix had a chance-- inferior FG%, inferior FT%, slightly
fewer FTA, essentially even rebounding, even turnovers...  Well, I
guess shooting 8-19 from three-point range can win you a game every
now and then.

Tony
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From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: 80's Lakers and 90's Suns: the eerie coincidences
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:08:48 GMT

In article <42470@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
 
>In article <1992Dec11.142359.61950@cc.usu.edu> alanj@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>Sorry to be rude but . . .  GET A LIFE!
>
>
>I'm amazed by the number of hostile follow-ups this thread has
>generated.  Am I the only one who finds this slightly amusing?
>
>Tony
 
No, not really.  When someone starts a really stupid, pointless
waste-of-bandwidth thread, they often get hostile replies.
 
Jim McMaster
From: mcgowacd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Carlos D McGowan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy Jackson to Sacto
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:05:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: mcgowacd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Carlos D McGowan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g222-10.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Dec15.050106.8920@coe.montana.edu> icsu0182@cs.montana.edu  
(Sean) writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.223541.14265@zip.eecs.umich.edu>  
raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani) writes:
> >In article <1gj128INNfpi@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>,  
rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu (Dale Harris) writes:
> >|> 
> >|> Frankly, I believe for the Kings to trade away Lionel Simmons and a  
1st
> >|> Round draft pick for JJ would be a mistake, JJ just isn't worth it  
for the
> >|> Kings for one and frankly I think the Kings need to look for a  
bigger
> >|> center (need to get those stinking rebounds).
> >|> 
> >|> -- 
> >|>    __        _                     Dale A. Harris   
{rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu} 
> >
> >
> >Agreed. JJ might be a great player but the Kings are already overloaded  
with
> >shooting guards - and I don't think JJ has the size to play small  
forward in
> >the NBA.
> 
> I think that is what they were saying about LJ when he came out last  
year 
> too, and now look at him!!!  I don't think size has a lot to do with it  
at 
> the small forward, it's how the small fwd is used that matters...If you  
did
> something like GS did with Run TMC, then height really isn't an issue.
> 
> Sean
LJ starts at power forward and is much stronger, physically and mentally,
than JJ.

 Carlos
> 
> -- 
> Sean Reid                     |"Baseball is a rather simple game. You  
throw the 
> Dept. of Computer Science     | ball, you hit the ball, you catch the  
ball...  
> Montana State University      | Sometimes you win. Sometimes you lose.  
Sometimes
> icsu0182@caesar.cs.montana.edu| it rains."    --  Eppy Calvin "NUKE"  
LaLouche
From: dougs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Steele)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:56:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Team Standings and Stats
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: s883410@otto (Matthew HEASLY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: In Need Of Results...
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:38:59 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au

i8ao032@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Mike Freame) writes:

>I'm after a few results that I haven't been able to find in the papers or in
>the boxscores available on wuarchive. If you have any of these scores could you
>please mail them to me. 
> 
>                       Thanks in advance, 
>                                          Mike Freame

>Nov 15th - Cleveland at Sacremento  SAC 109 cle 107
>         - Golden State at Lakers   LAL 105 gsw 102

>Nov 16th - Seattle at Phoenix       PHO 117 sea 110

>Nov 17th - Cleveland at San Antonio SAN 106 cle 105
>         - New York at Seattle	     SEA 100 nyk 90

>Nov 18th - Sacremento at Phoenix    PHO 127 sac 111

>Nov 19th - Dallas at San Antonio    SAN 123 dal 95
>         - Detroit at Denver	     DEN 99 det 87

>Nov 20th - Golden State at Charlotte  CHA 117 gsw 110 OT
>         - Utah at Indiana	       UTA 97 ind 95
>         - Washington at Minnesota    WAS 108 min 100
>         - Portland at Sacremento     POR 104 sac 99
>         - Chicago at Lakers          LAL 120 chi 118 OT

>Nov 22nd - Golden State at New Jersey GSW 114 njn 101
>         - Chicago at Phoenix         CHI 128 pho 111
>         - Denver at Lakers	       LAL 119 den 107

>Nov 25th - Washington at Boston       BOS 150 was 112
>         - New York at Minnesota      NYK 99 min 78
>         - Clippers at Dallas         LAC 130 dal 112
>         - Cleveland at Milwaukee     CLE 109 mil 105
>         - San Antonio at Utah        SAN 128 uta 102


	Hope these help
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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (I Spike - Therefore I Am)
Subject: HELP ME!!!  Need all scores up to today....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:25:06 GMT

Can anybody PLEASE help me out?

I would like a record of the scores of all games up until today.  I need this
for every team for the entire season.  If someone has this info, i would
greatly appreciate it.  THANKS in advance.

-- 
+Primus-RedHotChiliPeppers-RollinsBand-TheChurch-TheHouseOfLove-U2-Pixies-Curve+
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From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Subject: Re: Suns atop the NBA/Trade with Spurs?
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Phoenix, AZ
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:26:52 GMT


Dumas is here, the NBA reinstated him, the Suns will activate him and he'll
be in uniform for Friday's game at L.A. against the Lakers.  The Big O
was placed on IR due to a stress reaction (strain) on the same area of
his foot that had the stress fracture.  He'll be out 2 weeks.

Meanwhile, the Suns buried the Bullets 125-110 last night.  That's 8 in
a row folks.
--

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
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From: Rune A. Wallmark
Subject: BOXSCORES of Bulls games??????
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:19:53 GMT

Hi there!

I'm looking for the boxscores of a few Bulls games:
                    ^^^^^^^^^

Chicago       at Milwaukee  11/13
Chicago       at Minnesota  11/17
Chicago       at LA Lakers  11/20
Chicago       at Phoenix    11/22
Chicago       at Golden S.  11/24
Chicago       at Boston     12/2
Portland      at Chicago    12/4
Boston        at Chicago    12/5
Chicago       at Atlanta    12/8
Cleveland     at Chicago    12/9
Houston       at Chicago    12/11
New Jersey    at Chicago    12/12


I've noticed that only a few of the boxscores of Da Bulls games are posted this
group or uploaded to the wuarchive. Why ????????

Thanx in advance


Rune Andre
rune-w@hsr.no
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From: dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom )
Subject: Nets Question
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:13:19 GMT

I remember hearing that Dwayne Schintzus signed with the Nets
early this year. Is he injured or did he get cut?


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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE orl13lac14.03dec92
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:12:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.183946.18363@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan) writes:
>o'neal,shaquille  34  10  22   0  0   6  9   4  9   2  5  5  3  4  0  0  0   26
>roberts,stanley   20   8  15   0  0   0  0   4  6   0  4  0  4  2  0  0  0   16

Well would you look at this?  Somehow Stanley Roberts had a good game and it
was against his old teammate.  Usually the stat line reads like 15 minutes,
6 fouls, etc.

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From: gyuwono@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gunawan Yuwono)
Subject: Re: Who are the tallest point guards?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:13:56 GMT

In article <BzGnIB.u8@cs.columbia.edu> robin@cs.columbia.edu (Jacques Robin) wr
ites:
>
>Now that Magic retired for good I'd like to know who
>are the tallest point guards in the NBA.


How about Steve Smith of Miami Heats ? I think he is around 6-7.
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From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Re: Whats with the Bulls?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:23:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.053308.3572@news.acns.nwu.edu> stubaker@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stuart Baker) writes:
>I just watched the Rockets demolish the Bulls. As a season ticket holder I am
>somewhat dismayed at the teams lack of focus and intensity.  I just was
>wondering what all you on the net had to say about the subject.
>
>

	Teams on the rise are cohesive & focused.
	once at the top they are looking out for
	them$elve$. 


--
    bill@uhunix.bitnet 
    bill@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu 
    21.19 N.LAT by 157.52 W.LONG          
    Fish on the Byte
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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: MR JENNINGS IS OUT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:12:45 GMT


from his injury against Orlando (?), Keith MR Jennings is out for the 
season.  warrior troubles abound..

(is this old news?)

maybe GS can trade Marciolouns, Jennings, (who else is injured?) and some
picks for JIMMY!


ben

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From: veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy : outta  DALLAS
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:22:34 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

In article <1genbkINN91d@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
> 
> I can't believe Dallas will waste this high pick without trying to trade him
> for something...

Well, here ar lots of rumors about trading Jimmy into Sacramento for
Lionel Simmons and the No.1 draft pick for next year.
IMHO, the kings would be stupid to do it.  They could possible trade
Jimmy for next year's No.1 draft pick plus a player from the bench,
but not for Simmons.

-- Veit
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: In Need Of Results...
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:07:38 GMT

i8ao032@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Mike Freame) writes:
>I'm after a few results that I haven't been able to find in the papers or in
>the boxscores available on wuarchive. 

The place to look for results in wuarchive is the
directory doc/misc/nbastats/facts/scores

The file "93", which has scores from this season, is
updated about once a week.


--Gidi
From: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM (Don Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy : outta  DALLAS
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:38:30 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: dswalker.ebay.sun.com

I just read in the paper that Dallas is trying to trade JJ's
rights to Sacramento for there 93 #1 and Lionel Simmons.

Donald
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bulls recent surge...
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:50:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Stats from the Bulls last game showed a 15pt victory, and McCray had 
surprisingly 15pts.  I wonder if he's finally starting to fit in, to learn
the offense, and accept the bench role?  If he can start putting up 10-15ppg from here out, the Bulls are in great
shape, IMHO.  They need some punch off their bench these days...

Mike
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From: art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG LING LING)
Subject: waste of talent
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:05:05 GMT

Hi!

Does anyone know what happened to the player who wins my

"Biggest Waste of Talent" award, TITO HORFORD ?

Note: David Robinson once said he was afraid to play Horford!

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:41:47 MST
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Karl Malone mumblings...
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu (Dan Canfield)

In article <1992Dec9.223039.13239@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
>that isnt the same thing.  its more like driving a car that has a device
>that removes other peoples seatbelts when it crashes into them.  if you
>come out and say that this particular known car shouldnt be allowed on
>the road, then what if you have a similar car?  that would be the
>epitomy of being hypocritical.  to not look under the hood for the
>device, thus to not know, thus to claim innocence of that hypocrisy is
>itself another hypocrisy.  to play against other unknowns without
>complaint, while complaining against the only known case is hypocrisy.
>
>there are easily probably SEVERAL OTHER NBA PLAYERS carrying the HIV
>virus.  they just dont have the balls to tell anyone.  and now they
>will continue to remain silent.  the double standard Malone proposes
>for his Olympic teammate is another travesty, considering Australia's
>concerns.  it is sad indeed and really says very little about our
>common sense.
>
>that the NBA isnt mature enough to handle it.
>
>magic johnson wasnt kicked out, he left on his own accord.
>

I agree Nate.  I suppose we haven't come as far as we sometimes like to
think we have... including myself.  I like to think or possibly hope that
even though things didn't turn out like Magic and some others would have
liked them to turn out, he has made a difference in how we look at this
terrible afliction.  Each little bit helps, no matter how frustrating.


Dan Canfield
bigdog@bones.et.byu.edu

DoD #0071,RP90
'89 FJ1200
'89 Indy707
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