From: hawk@pnet01.cts.com (John Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amigas are cool
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:16:10 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA


>>Besides being out of the discussion point, if half-OS (OS/2) need         
>>a *little* more hardware to run than windows, then it needs much more     
>>hardware to run (just to run!) than AmigaDOS 2.04. And period.            
                                                                            
>So?  AmigaDOS 2.04 needs much more hardware to run (just to run!) than     
>AtariDOS 2.0 on my old Atari 800!                                          
                                                                            
Um, I think he was comparing OS/2 and Kickstart because both have very      
powerful features, both multitask, both rival each other with power.        
                                                                            
>>Don't                                                                     
>>start saying "You haven't seen it run!!" blah blah blah, you CAN'T        
>>install it in a machine that's less than a 386DX-33 and hope for it to    
>>run at an acceptable speed, but AmigaDOS can.                             
                                                                            
>So?  You CAN'T install AmigaDOS in a machine that's less than a 68000      
>and hope for it to run at an acceptable speed, but with AtariDOS you can!  
                                                                            
Are you comparing AtariDOS to Kickstart. Ha ha. That would be funny. However
Kickstart compares very favorably with OS/2. Both are very powerful, each   
has powerful features the other doesn't, etc.                               
                                                                            
>BTW, I guess I was wrong when I used OS/2 2.0 on a 386sx-16 and found it   
>perfectly acceptable...                                                    
                                                                            
>>You can't install it on a                                                 
>>machine with a 60Mb hard disk and hope to have enough disk space free     
>>for some apps, and AmigaDOS can.                                          
                                                                            
>So?  You can't install AmigaDOS on a 90KB floppy diskette and hope to have 
>enough space free for apps, but with AtariDOS you can!                     
                                                                            
Same thing here, AtariDOS doesn't rival the power of Kickstart.             
                                                                            
>>End of discussion.                                                        
>Wise move.                                                                 
:-)                                                                         
                                                                            
I think the point here is that Jerry was saying that it's all relative to   
the base machine you're comparing. You can always go lower and lower        
to find an even less memory wanting machine. You can take that AtariDOS     
90K machine and say that it won't fit on a 2K machine, but with Timex       
SinclairDOS you can.                                                        
                                                                            
However, none of these operating systems rival the power of Kickstart or    
OS/2. Kickstart compares very favorably to OS/2 in power. Kickstart is 512K 
plus a few diskbased libraries and things, while OS/2 is tens of megabytes. 
Both have a very nice GUI, CLI shells, multitask, give power to the user    
should the user want it. etc. I think that's the point Gustavo was trying   
to make. Kickstart is small, compact, efficient, and very fast compared to  
OS/2, yet they rival each other in power.                                   
                                                                            
>>Gustavo Cordova Avila                                                     
>Jerry J. Shekhel

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