From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Susan Garvin, religious bigot (was Re: Doug Holsinger: Anti-Semite?
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:12:40 GMT
Organization: California State University Sacramento

In article <BtwLor.D6G.2@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
>In article <lefty-310892165951@lefty.apple.com> lefty@apple.com (Lefty) writes:
>#I've seen the following quote in Doug Holtsinger's signature in several
>#messages, and I've grown more offended by it each time I've seen it.

Well Doug is right, asshole. Live with it. Oh, and proof of that
assertion is presented here.  

Now, I will be running this signature in my messages. I hope you GET
offended by it, Lefty, because I don't give a shit. No one gives a
shit when pro-aborts slam on Suzanne Forgach, so why should we give a
shit when we slam on your friends? 

>#In article <1992Aug30.232948.17241@ncsu.edu>, dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug
>#Holtsinger) wrote:
>## 
>##       "My logic is based on ... a religious perspective which says
>##  that personhood begins at birth (actually a month after birth if
>##  we want to be precise)..."
>##    -- Gloria Feldt,
>##       chief executive, Planned Parenthood of Central and Northern Arizona
>## 
>##   "I see nothing extreme or reprehensible about this statement."
>##     -- garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) <BtnDAw.Iwo.2@cs.cmu.edu>
>#
>#Gloria Feldt is accurately summarizing, as I understand it, the Talmudic
>#point of view regarding personhood.  I see no evidence that, unlike you,
>#Ms. Feldt is attempting to impose her point of view on anyone else.  Do
>#you have a specific problem with this, Mr. Holtsinger?  Do you object to
>#the beliefs or practices of the Jewish religion?  What point are you 
>#attempting to make with this?
>#
>#Oh, and for the record, I see nothing extreme or reprehensible about this
>#statement, either.
>
>
>Also for the record, I said, "I see nothing extreme or reprehensible 
>about this statement.  What is it about Judaism that bothers you so?"
>Holtsinger responded with, "That will make a lovely quote."  Holtsinger
>has been quite self-righteous about other forms of bigotry, but seems
>to think that anti-Semitism is an acceptable form.  

Susan Garvin you stupid ignoramous sphincter vixen! 

Let's take a BIG look at that statement, eh? 

>##       "My logic is based on ... a religious perspective which says
>##  that personhood begins at birth (actually a month after birth if
>##  we want to be precise)..."
>##    -- Gloria Feldt,
>##       chief executive, Planned Parenthood of Central and Northern Arizona

Gloria Feldt's LOGIC, which means her reasoning on this issue, which
also means if she got a chance to write the law on it, is based on a
RELIGIOUS perspective. 

Doug Holtsinger did NOT criticize her because she was Jewish or
whatever. He criticized her BECAUSE she is politically active because
of her RELIGIOUS views, which DIRECTLY INFLUENCE her reasoning. 

GLORIA FELDT VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT, SUSAN GARVIN, JUST AS
SURELY AS RANDALL TERRY.

     THE PROOF OF THIS CASE IS SITTING RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, STUPID. 

>##   "I see nothing extreme or reprehensible about this statement."
>##     -- garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) <BtnDAw.Iwo.2@cs.cmu.edu>

You are a raving hypocrite, asshole. This is absolute proof of what a
hypocritical, non-intellegent, sphincter-head bitch you really are.
What you have said, logically, is that you do NOT disagree with a
person who takes to POLITICAL activism based on their RELIGIOUS views
AS LONG AS THEY'RE PRO-CHOICE. AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THEM IS 
ANTI-SEMITIC. 

Rule #1 according to Susan Garvin: If it's said by certain religions,
you'd better not criticize it or else you're Anti-Semitic (as in this
particular case). Criticism is not allowable.  

Maybe Kevin Welch was more right about you than anyone thought. 


You may now put your hide back on. You're gonna need it when the
feeding frenzy begins.  


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>##       "My logic is based on ... a religious perspective which says
>##  that personhood begins at birth (actually a month after birth if
>##  we want to be precise)..."
>##    -- Gloria Feldt,
>##       chief executive, Planned Parenthood of Central and Northern Arizona

>##   "I see nothing extreme or reprehensible about this statement."
>##     -- garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) <BtnDAw.Iwo.2@cs.cmu.edu>
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