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From: elr@trintex.uucp (Ed Ravin)
Subject: Re: bike locks
Organization: U-Lock it, We Break-it
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:54:03 GMT

In article <FFLZRB1w165w@dorsai.com> beng@dorsai.com (ben ng) writes:
>Hi.
>    Is there a specific type of lock thats less prone to thieves' 
>attempts at theft? I've got a U-lock and today I noticed hammer marks
>on it as well as a loose fastening. 
>Luckily something/someone prevented the thief(ves) from stealing my bike.

You should always use two different kinds of locks in high-theft
areas like New York City -- for example, one U lock and a separately
locked cable / padlock.  Thieves don't usually bring the different kinds
of tools needed to break different kinds of locks.

To beef up your U-lock, you can hang a "plumber's T" over the horizontal
bar -- this prevents some (but not all) types of prying attacks with
a long pipe.  You can also buy "bad bones", a set of bars that fit over
the "U" portion of the lock, which is supposed to make it resistant to
leverage attacks.

The current fashion for bike messengers is to use a case-hardened chain
and padlock -- it weighs a lot but it works.  There is also the expensive
and heavy "no-krak" lock available at finer bike stores -- currently
considered very safe (i.e. thieves haven't figured out how to break it
yet).

Finally, you should make your bike as unappealing as possible when
leaving it out on the street.  If your front wheel comes off, take it
with you -- don't provide the getaway vehicle to the thief.  Register
your bike with the local police precinct (call them up to make an
appointment) so that if your bike is stolen it can be traced to you and
returned if found by the cops.

-- 
Ed Ravin- elr@trintex.uucp| I like to think (and the sooner the better!)
  elr%trintex@uunet.uu.net| Of a cybernetic meadow where mammals and computers
           +1-914-993-4737| Live together in mutually programming harmony
my opinions, nobody else's| Like pure water touching clear sky.  -R. Brautigan
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:22788 rec.bicycles.racing:304
From: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk (Stewart T Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: RESULTS : Nissan Classic Stage 5
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:38:10 GMT
Reply-To: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. Of Computing and Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh


Stage 5 Naas-Dublin (77 miles)

1.  L de Koning (Pnasonic, Neth) 2hr 58min 27sec (25.9mph; 41.52kph)
2.  A van der Poel (Tulip, Neth)
3.  F Andreu (Motorola, US)
4.  J Clay (Banana-MET, GB)
5.  B Grone (Telekom, Ger)
6.  C Lilywhite (Banana-MET, GB) all same time

7.  M Earley (PDM, Irl)
14. R Holden (PCA '92, GB)
31. S Kelly (Festina, Irl)
32. P Anderson (Motorola, Aus)
34. S Roche (Carrera, Irl)
38. S Yates (Motorola, GB)
54. E Breukink (PDM, Neth) all same time

OVERALL (523 miles)

1.  Anderson 21:57:15 (23.82mph; 38.12kph)
2.  R Alcala (PDM, Mex) +7sec
3.  A Tchmil (GB-MG, Rus) +8
4.  E van Hooydonck (Buckler, Bel) +13
5.  Roche +16
6.  L Leblanc (Castorama, Fr) +19

9.  Earley +39
17. Kelly +42
18. Holden
20. Yates
26. Breukink all same time

Next up : Paris-Tours and late season classics.
STF
--
sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk                        ...uknet!cs.hw.ac.uk!sfleming
"I go out walking after midnight, searching for you..."
  -Patsy Cline
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,misc.fitness
From: rwoods@nosc.mil (Ronald C. Woods)
Subject: Price Club Bikes?
Keywords: Mountain Bikes, Motiv
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:19:14 GMT



Help!

Price Club sells "Motiv" brand mountain bikes.  I'm looking at the $199.00 
Stonegrinder model for light biking on trails.  Can anyone provide input 
good or bad on these bikes?

Thanks,
Ron Woods


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From: cabizon@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (THOMAS BIZON)
Subject: Re: clipless pedal options
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: clipless SPD pedals
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  1 Oct 1992 10:05 EST  

In article <1992Sep30.173852.10289@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter) writes...
>This may sound stupid but can you clarify "lateral movement"
>for me.  There is movement in my SPDs (DXs).  I may be confusing
>this with twisting (which would be very bad for buggered up knees).

Lateral movement is the ability to move the ball of your foot from
side-to-side  (no rotation).
I think before you were describing rotational freedom where the ball
of your foot pivots.

The more important of the above "freedoms" is the rotational movement
because it doesn't force your knees into an unnatural position.

If it rolls.........RIDE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: clipless pedal options
Date: 30 Sep 1992 09:59:35 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: clipless SPD pedals

In <84032@bcsaic.boeing.com>
   gareth@bcsaic.boeing.com (Gareth Beale) writes:

>                      . . do SPD's allow any lateral movement?

No they don't.
Look at Time TWT, if you can find it.

Alex
amiller@almaden.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: ncherry@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil j.cherry)
Subject: Re: Demise of the touring bike? (was re: Comments on Bridgestone?)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:17:34 GMT

In article <=30n4nk.marquis@netcom.com> marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.092208@rugrat.cbm.dec.com> yon@caboom.enet.dec.com (David A. Yon) writes:
>
>I feel sorry for the poor guys I see out touring paved roads on Mt. 
>bikes.  Unless they're spending long stretches on rough dirt roads
>(and most are not) they needlessly suffer from the extra weight, lack
>of hand positions, and slow going of Mt. bikes on pavement.
>
>Roger (marquis@netcom.com)

Just a comment nothing else, I bought a MTB because I wrecked the rim of my
touring bike. (It was old and very heavy also.) I've found that the MTB IS
much slower on the pavement. I hope to order the correct tires for the riding
I do. I ride as much on road as I do off road. I ride in the sand, in gravel,
up curbs, etc. I don't think that my one bike solution could be a Touring
Bike. But I also maybe one of the few who actually ride as hard both ways.

NJC
From: amiller@almaden.ibm.com (Alex Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: clipless pedal options
Date: 1 Oct 1992 00:41:26 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: clipless SPD pedals

In <1992Sep30.173852.10289@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
  paynter@bnr.ca (Stuart Paynter) writes:

> This may sound stupid but can you clarify "lateral movement"
> for me.  There is movement in my SPDs (DXs).  I may be confusing
> this with twisting (which would be very bad for buggered up knees).

SPD cleats rotate against a spring until they release.  Your foot can
twist right and left about the ball of your foot (or where you have
the cleat positioned) about 10 degrees.

Time, and I think some other pedals, have rotation AND lateral
movement.  You can slide the cleat on the pedal towards or away from
the crank arm (I think the track is 7mm.)  Time calls this system
Bioperformance and claims it is beneficial for people who are prone to
tendon-related injuries.  Most riders probably don't care about this
-- I have both systems and I prefer TWT when riding comfort is more
important than walking.  The rubbery soles of many SPD shoes
(SH-M100,SH-A100,Vitoria Magic) are almost as good as sneakers for
walking on marble floors, metal stairs, and other situations that
humble most non-recessed cleat users.  I can drive in SPD shoes too.
The Time TWT shoes (Action and Century) have more of a hard rubber or
plastic sole that can be tricky on smooth surfaces.  I'd put SPD
pedals on off-road, hybrid, and commute bicycles, and keep TWT on
century-ride (randonneur) bicycles.

> BTW, there are two types of SPD cleats available giving different
> ranges of movement/release.  Would the cleat allowing more
> movement be more beneficial?

Shimano says the "optional SM-SH55 cleat provides a multiple release
mode.  The SM-SH55 SPD cleat can be released from the pedeal by moving
the foot in various directions."

Oddly, when Shimano describes their Dura-Ace SPD cleat they say
"SM-SH71 cleats allow the foot to move laterally with the cleat
attached to the pedal."  But they depict the same rotation (not
lateral movement) that the SH-M50 (standard SPD off-road) cleat has.
So, I guess there's some confusion between rotation and lateral
movement.

cheers,
Alex
amiller@almaden.ibm.com
From: rfutscher@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Review - Touring Font for cue sheets
Date: 25 Sep 92 12:12:20 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

        I just started useing a Touring font in my cue sheets.  It realy helps
make them more understandable.  The font includes all the symbols that you need
for almost any ride.  Right, left, BR, BL turn symbols are the most used.
Other symboles include an outhouse, stopsign, traffic signal, fork (food), and
several bridges.  
        They come in Truetype (Mac), Truetype (Pc), and Postscript on 3.5 or 
5.25 inch floppy.  The cost is $20 US.  They can be ordered from:
          Daniel Adkins
          2416 K St. N.W. # 506
          Washington, D.C. 20037

          Telephone 202-822-8052

They were review in the newsletter of the Potomac Pedalers Touring Club
for February 1992.

Robert Futscher   rfutscher@pbs.org	
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:22776 rec.bicycles.racing:302
From: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk (Stewart T Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: RESULTS : Nissan Classic Stage 4
Date: 27 Sep 92 12:12:06 GMT
Reply-To: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. Of Computing and Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh


Nissan "Who said it was a sprinter's race?" Classic
Stage 4- Limerick-Cork (121miles; 195km)

1.  P Anderson (Motorola, Aus) 5hr 06min 18sec (23.72mph; 37.96kph)
2.  R Alcala (PDM, Mex)
3.  A Tchmil (Rus)
4.  S Roche (Carrera, Irl) all same time
5.  L Leblanc (Castorama, Fr) +3sec
6.  R Harmeling (TVM, Neth) +26sec
7.  C Henn (Ger)
8.  L Brochard (Castorama, Fr)
9.  A da Silva (Festina, Por)
10. S Kelly (Festina, Irl) all same time

OVERALL

1.  Anderson 18:58:48
2.  Alcala +10sec
3.  Tchmil +12
4.  E van Hooydonck (Buckler, Bel) +13
5.  Roche +15
6.  Leblanc +19
7.  W Engelbrecht (Southern Sun, SA) +39
8.  M Earley (PDM, Irl) same time
9.  A Bishop (Motorola, US) +40
10. O Ludwig (Panasonic, Ger) +41

Final stage Sunday : Naas-Dublin (probably finishing about now :-) Oh, for
<results@ucf.com>
STF
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sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk                        ...uknet!cs.hw.ac.uk!sfleming
"I go out walking after midnight, searching for you..."
  -Patsy Cline
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From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: roads & inconsiderate motorists
Organization: Motorola Panther Project, Chandler, AZ
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:25:49 GMT

In article <5OCT199211144030@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov> piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch) writes:
>
>>>> [blood-curdling story of vehicular assault deleted]
>>>
>>>Come on! This was hit and run. If the cop wouldn't do anything all it
>>>would take is a trip down to the DA's office and the _insistance_
>
>>What I was really interested in hearing -- and this is why I made my original
>>response to your original post -- was whether you personally had 
>>actually had any success in getting DAs and such to do anything about 
>>motorist misbehavior. If so, it would be interesting, and 
>>useful, to hear the story.
>
>A friend was hit a few months ago in what appeared to be a deliberate
>act; he got the license plate number and description of the car though
>the driver left the scene without exchanging information. He went to
>the police with the information; they were very interested in it and 
>treated it as a hit-and-run, but said that if the driver doesn't 
>acknowledge the incident there was nothing they could do. The friend's
>wife is a lawyer and came to the same conclusion. 
>
>Laws in your area may differ. 
>
>Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
>NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135

Unless of course there are other witnesses or some physical evidence to support
his claim.  A friend had a hit/run in (auto-auto) in a parking lot.  She called
the police and they when to the offending drivers house and checked the car for
rubbed off paint.



-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Dave Weaver)
Subject: Re: Heart Rates
Organization: SPS
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:51:47 GMT

khe@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Keith Erskine) writes: 
>Allan Peiper has an amusing antecdote in a recent Velo News (his journals
>are the high point of Velo News, IMHO) about Claudio Chiapucci wearing
>a heart rate monitor.  He said Claudio wore it to psyche out other riders
>next to him when the glanced at his HRM and saw how low his heart rate
>was.  After Allan asked Claudio about his HRM, Claudio came up to Peiper
>a few times during the race to show him what his heart rate was.

If I recall the article right, Peiper rode up to Claudio once and saw a
rate of 140 on his monitor, which Allan was suprised about, because he 
thought that his own rate was about 140 at that point. He asked Claudio
about that rate, and Chiapucci said it was picking up the chest band of 
a teammate he was riding beside. Then, when Claudio pedaled away from his 
teammate, his monitor showed 90!  [And I agree, the Peiper articles are 
the high point since Bob Roll's diaries are no more :( ]

Dave Weaver


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: praetzel@marconi.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: Re: Heart Rates
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:46:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.032835.15029@nwnexus.WA.COM> gregory@halcyon.com (Gregory Wright) writes:
> This is a good point. Is there a reliable way to obtain a good estimate
>of one's maximum heart rate? Once you know your "Red line" what percentage
>of this rate should you shoot for?
  Yes there is a difference between an observed maximum and the physical
maximum.  However, that will change with fitness and age.  The percentage that
you are talking about is also highly variable.  Pulse is fairly consistant 
(within 5 bpm) as long as you are in the same state of fitness.  Take a week
off and it can be a lot higher or lower.  It is best used as a measure of how
your body is doing.  So if your pulse is low, everything hurts then take it
easy and don't bother doing intervals.
  I have a hilly 50 min course that I have done in identical times averaging
166 and 175 bpm.  My AT is about 173 but the exact pulse and "tiredness"
feeling are not good predictors of how well I am going to do.  This is borne
out in studies.  People are extreamly poor judges of the work they are doing
and the pulse is so variable that nobody really uses it for measurements.
  However, given lots of experience with your own pulse you will be able to
tell how things are going and know how much more you can push.  But for a
group you can not use the pulse as much of an indicator.
  Also a high or low pulse usually does not mean too much.  In the cases of
people who have a significantly different pulses their heart stroke volume
usually changes to ensure the same blood flow.  For short events this does not
matter but > 1 hour events will show a lack of recovery much more than a 15km
ITT.  You might also want to check your morning pulse to see if you are
recovered from a hard day of training.  I find that it will tell me if I am
not recovered but it will not tell me that I am. 
  - Eric 
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles.racing:337 rec.bicycles.rides:201
From: mike@pyrdc.UUCP (Mike Whitman)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Wilderness 101, anyone riding it?
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:14:55 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology, Government Systems

Is anyone else ridding this race this year? I rode it last year and had a good
time by just finishing it. This year I am going for a little improvment in my
time. Look for a Blue 'Dale Delta V 900 with a Whole Wheel Velo Club jersey
riding it.

-- mike --
-- 
                 -=---------  Michael C. Whitman
               ---===-------  National System Engineer - Telecom
             -----=====-----  Pyramid Technology Corporation
           -------=======---  1921 Gallows Road, Suite 250
         ---------=========-  Vienna, VA 22182

	Phone: (703) 848-2050	Pager: (800)sky-page pin# 45300
	    mike@pyrdc.va.pyramid.com -or- uunet!pyrdc!mike
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: roadman@leland.Stanford.EDU (arthur walker)
Subject: reminder: WCCC conference mtg at SLO 10/10/92
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ca,nv
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 05:38:27 GMT

(sorry about the empty version posted earlier; it's been cancelled)

Tim Nicholson is concerned that some collegiate cycling teams
in the WCCC have not received the memo sent out last week
providing the details of the conference meeting to be held this
coming Saturday, the 10th of October, 1992, on the campus of
Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo. 

This is a very important annual meeting with agenda including
scoring/racing rules and the all-important scheduling of races
for the 1993 spring season.  Every WCCC member school should
send one or more representatives to this meeting.  

If you have questions, please call the conference office at
(415) 857-1779 and leave your name and phone # for a 
quick return call from Tim.  Might be a good thing to 
give him a call even if your plans are already made.

The meeting starts at 9 AM
in room E-27 of Bldg 52 of the CPSLO campus.
If you need housing or directions, call Randy Warren
at (805) 543-4053.

art walker
ahw@egret0.stanford.edu
roadman@leland.stanford.edu
cycling@leland.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt)
Subject: Re: upgrade points
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:13:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.141750.11749@cbnews.cb.att.com> ampe@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.e.ampe) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.135934.8925@cbfsb.cb.att.com> weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt) writes:
>.......................
>It's up to your district rep.  Ask him (or her) if you are ready to
>upgrade, and mention the clinic.  Some reps don't really care about
>the points, they just want to see that you have the experience.
>Apparently you have both.
>
>John_Ampe@att.com

Hmmm, I see.   Actually I would like to stay a cat 4 for a while.  At least
half of next year.  Maybe I have the strength for 3's races but I don't
know about experience.  I'd like to work a little more on team tactics.
I suppose though that I'f I win too many races they'll make me upgrade. :-)

John

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
From: dinsdale@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Don McDaniel)
Subject: Re: Report from USCF delegates meeting
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 16:04:35 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <72886@apple.Apple.COM> ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House) writes:
>In article <29SEP92.01202321@alcvax.pfc.mit.edu> stek@alcvax.pfc.mit.edu writes:
>>
>>The new transportation bill that passed last year dictaites that all states
>>must have a bicycle plan coordinator of some sort.  It would be good to
>>have USCF members advising these people.
>
>Why?
>
>Among the cycling organizations I can think of, the USCF strikes me as less
>likely than most to be able to advise on cycling *transportation* matters.
>Racing on closed courses or in large, highly-visible packs is a rather
>different thing from vehicular cycling.
>
>-- 
>****************************************************************************
>Eric House			"My employer doesn't share its opinions with
>"Quayle in '94"		   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"


I have my own feelings as to why.  I am both a commuter and racer.  I
train on public roads.  Therefore I'm very concerned about well meaning
but ill-informed bicycle coordinators working for bike paths with the
ultimate intention of restricting my rights to the road.  I subscribe
to the philosophy of John Forrester (recently expounded in rec.bicycles
before the split) that there is a distinct possobility that our rights
to the road are threatened.  I also feel that I am safest on the road
and that I cannot train on bike paths.  

The interests of racers are affected by transportation planners.  If we
don't recognize that now, it may be too late by the time we wake up!


--
_________________________________________________________________
Don McDaniel                           dinsdale@chtm.eece.unm.edu
Center for High Technology Materials
University of New Mexico
From: loucks@isrc.sandia.gov (Cliff Loucks)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: Re: Tour of Texas '93 ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:33:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: isrc.1992Oct5.193332.24336
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Org. 1600, Albq., NM

Kurt F. Sauer:
> I'm not holding my breath or anything, but I'd heard from "reliable sources"
> that the Tour of Texas (or another international amateur race like Tour of
> Texas) would be reborn in 1993.

Well I don't know about the Tour of Texas, but there's talk of a
Tour of New Mexico next year (replacing the Santa Fe Classic).
Will it be an international event?  I suppose it could be called
international, since New Mexico is so often thought of as being
outside the United States.  Amateur only?  Not a chance.

By the way, you know the old saying don't you? 
Poor New Mexico, so far from heaven, so close to Texas. :-)

Cliff
-- 

Cliff Loucks  <=>  loucks@isrc.sandia.gov
Sandia National Labs, Albuquerque, New Mexico
From: les@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Les Earnest)
Subject: Re: Report from USCF delegates meeting
Reply-To: les@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Sep30.060509.10766@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Oct1.020132.10240@slc.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:59:45 GMT

Marc San Soucie writes:
   What constitutes a [USCF] region?

Well, the USCF divides the country into 12 regions which, according to
the Constitution, are supposed to have "approximately equal numbers of
licensees and be geographically coherent."

Marc's region is composed of Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Utah, and
Washington.  (Admittedly, it's hard to be "geographically coherent"
if your region includes Alaska.)  My Region is California-Nevada/North.
Look on pages 38 and 39 of the USCF Rulebook for more.  However, some
of them in the Central and East Sections will change on January 1 to
compensate for demographic shifts during the last four years, as
specified in the Board legislation just adopted.

--
Les Earnest                                  Phone:  415 941-3984
Internet: Les@cs.Stanford.edu              USMail: 12769 Dianne Drive
UUCP: . . . decwrl!cs.Stanford.edu!Les         Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
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