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From: 9055marcusse@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: DOGS FOR PROTECTION
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:38:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.00958BE7.D7494FE0
Reply-To: 9055marcusse@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

I just wanted to put my .02 in. I have a very family dog which is a collie 
(I love collies). He is super gentle to everyone and loves wrestling with 
me but if he is outside unkenneled and someone unannounced comes into the 
yard he makes no bones on letting the person know that this is his yard. He 
also will put himself between me and another dog if one comes into the yard 
without its owner, (not to many dogs make that mistake twice I have three dogs). My point is I think all my dogs are very friendly to my family and friends, 
but when the occasions arise to help or protect all of them give 100%. 
Just my opinion and observation.
From: dag@control.lth.se (Dag Bruck)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: spaying and neutering (seeing eye dogs)
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:23:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Automatic Control, Lund, Sweden

In article <...> emm@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ellen.m.mcsorley) writes:
>The females have to go back to the kennel during their first
>heat for three weeks, and go back to seeing eye for final
>training at 1 year.  After their real seeing eye training
>it is decided who will be neutered and used as a seeing eye
>dog, and who will go into the breeding program.

In Sweden they screen the dogs at least twice, the first time just
before sexual maturity to determine if a male dog will be neutered.

>...  Some puppies
>fail all together and are neutered and placed in loving homes
>(very often the home that raised them the first year.)

This is the main problem for Statens Hundskola -- that so many dogs
are mentally unfit to become seeing eye dogs.  They will now start an
education programme for the people who take care of the puppies, so
they seem to think that early upbringing is crucial for the result.

		-- Dag
From: thuyan@brahms.udel.edu (Thuy-An Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Renter's/Homeowner's Insurance
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:03:32 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

I thought this was interesting.  I went to get renter's insurance today.

Oddly enough, he asked me what kind of dog I had.  He told me that they
do not sell policies to people with Rotties, Dobermans, G.S. or Pit 
Bulls.

I had never heard that before (Luckily, Sheba is only a husky- Bewar of
Dog....she may lick you to death)


Anyone else ever encounter this?

Thuy-An
From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (R.L.Taylor KB2OOA)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dogs Don't Have Souls, Do They??
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:08:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr10.124112.1927@inland.com> walls@inland.com writes:
>As the vet led you away, you stopped for an instant,turned your head and 
>looked up at me as if to say:"Thank you for taking care of me". I thought,
>"NO! ---thank YOU for taking care of me.


Oh, sure, get me crying over my keyboard!  People are starting to wonder
about me, anyway. :-)

Seriously, that was beautiful, even if it was awfully painful.  Thanks
for posting it.

Roberta
...who dreads the day Magnum and/or Babie goes away...
From: schalene@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Vicious dog definition
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:53:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr8.145343.1610
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr6.220510.21792@b11.ingr.com> bbrown@b11.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
>mct@interlink.com (- MD) writes:
>
>>   There is currently a VERY heightened awareness of this problem in 
>>Washington, DC right now.  A few weeks ago in Prince George's County, MD
>>(one of the counties surrounding DC), a little girl chased
>>a ball into a yard.  Three Rottweilers and a mastiff in the adjacent
>>yard escaped under the fence and mauled the little girl severely.
>
>There must not have been much of a fence there if three Rotts and
>a Mastiff could go UNDER it.  
>
Through it is more like it.  The picture on T.V. showed gapping holes
in the chain-link fence.  The dogs had excaped before, killing a toy
poodle.  The police had cited the family for the holes in the fence,
but they failed to fix it.  It is my understanding that the dogs were
never allowed in the house and lived only in the yard.  (They said the
only wanted dogs for protection.)  The couple that owned the dogs have 
been arrested on criminal negligence charges -- I think reckless 
endangerment and the dogs were put down shortly after the incident.  

Its a very said story.  The girl was 7 years old and is still in
serious condition.  She had over 100 stitches in her face.  I 
personally think it was correct to indict the owners of the dogs.
They were not responsible owners.   Instead of legislating against
supposedly viscious breeds, its too bad we can't legislate against
irresponsible pet ownership.
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Obedience Training Question
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:39:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44134
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Apr6.165713.18378@sequent.com> schalene@sequent.com writes:
>I've got a question about puppy obedience classes.  What is the ideal
>age to enroll your puppy and yourself in a class?  I'm afraid I may
>have made a mistake and would like to correct it before its too late.
>
>

Stick with it and he'll be fine.  Many puppies are shy at young ages.
Just encourage him to explore a bit in class and don't correct him
too much yet.  Your doing fine, just let him get some more
confidence.  It's crutial to get a lot of socialzation early.
All my pups go straight to puppy class as soon as they get all their shots.
They've tunred out fine even if they were a bit shy at first.

>I originally signed us up for puppy training because I haven't ever
>raised a puppy before (mom did it when I was little, and my husband's
>dog was 6 when we were married).  I didn't want to make too many
>mistakes out of ignorance; so I read a lot of books.  The only thing I
>really found about when training should begin was in Monks of New
>Skete.  They said many people have a false belief that formal training
>shouldn't start until the dog is over 6 months old.  
>

I start formal training at 16-18 weeks for my dogs, but then again
it isn't to the calbre that I use at 5 - 6 months.   

>The class we're in isn't intended to be a formal training.  They are
>primarily interested in socialization, learning come, sit, down, etc.
>The trainer even said heel shouldn't be expected because its a complex
>command made up of several elements and it takes awhile for the pups
>to get the hang of it.  That's why I didn't think Max was too young.
>But now I'm wondering if I'm wrong.
>
>Any thoughts......
>
>schalene

Sounds like a resaonable trainer.  Puppys are working on the static exercises
which is the frist step I use with all my classes.  It just may take
a bit for him to get conforatable with the situation.  Just give him
a lot of praise.

Hope this helps.

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Marla Belzowski   saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Mauii Nikki Belzowski CD CGC TDI CERF
Brittish Legend of Beowulf (1leg CD) CGC TDI CERF  -- tri-color collies
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: casey@netcom.com (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Akitas steal the Cherry Blossom show
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 05:44:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


Okay, I'm kidding :-).  But me and my dog (and two other adults and one
other Akita) made it to the Cherry Blossom Festival parade in San Francisco's
Japantown today--in the *rain*, I might add.  Let's see--it was Mayor
Frank Jordan, then Police Chief Richard Hongisto, then the Akitas.  I see
that they had the right priorities :-).  Since I'm on crutches, we watched
instead of marched, then headed over to the Peace Pavilion to get out of
the rain.  The Akita display (and one Shiba there today) was sheltered 
from the rain and the dogs did what Akitas do best--they slept :-).

(BTW, since someone just asked about this--Shibas will be recognized by
the AKC in June.)

Anyhow, I saw one nice looking male Akita, but I must say that among the
dogs there today, my female was the prettiest.  She has much more definition
than the other dogs did--she's probably the only one among them who is
walked every day, too, if that matters (I realize that most of it is
genetics).  Anyhow, it was Akita heaven and since I never brag or say that
my dog is the smartest, I *do* want to say that I think she's really
gorgeous :-).
From: Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: why pekingese
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:04:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: damserver-bb.corp.sun.com

In article <rqhpsINN1ka@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> terry@eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull) writes:
>X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>"That would be the last lunch your dog ever ate!" and stormed away. 
>I learned my lesson.  No more 'lunch' jokes unless the person knows me
>and my dog.  BTW: Bear has lived through a Sheltie puppy, a Basset
>puppy and a Border Collie/Great Pyreneese puppy, and not a one of them
>has ever been injured by him in any way.  He had not even raised a lip
>at this obnoxious little dog and the MinPin was the one that approached
>us, but still the owner was furious.  


	and the moral of that story :

	it is a known fact/adage that dogs and their owners tend to resemble
	each other.
	it is a known fact that small dogs just aren't as smart as big dogs
	(not as much room for brains).
	therefore it is reasonable to assume that small dog owners just
	aren't as smart as large dog owners.
		my staffie terrier is 70 lbs and smart enough to open
	and close a refrigerator on his own.
	the last time a small dog bothered him, he held it down with a paw
	until i rescued him.
		mike shames
From: schalene@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: NEW PUPPY IS HERE!
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:46:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Apr13.184615.6947
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr13.160709.25930@newshost.lanl.gov> davids@c3.lanl.gov (David Simmons) writes:
>Well, it's finally here.  The new puppy arrived last Thursday on
>a flight from St. Louis.  

Congratulations!  I'm sure you were worried that he'd arrive in good
shape.  What a relief!
>
>I had to rake the back yard this weekend, to get rid of all the little
>"things" he was finding that he shouldn't have had.  He was an enourmous
>help, chasing the rake and barking for over an hour, stopping only to 
>attack and mortally wound the sprinkler, which just wouldn't stop
>spraying him, no matter how loudly he barked.
>
Sounds just like the experience we had this weekend with Max.  We have
a 100' fence along one side of our backyard and we were getting
everything ready for Max to be outside unsupervised.  He really loves
yerd work!  Helping mom get the plastic bags out of the box,
protecting mom from the rake, protecting dad from the clippers,
pulling Ivy down from the fence, etc., etc.

Then when we put in the two doggie doors (one from the kitchen to the
screened porch and one from the screen door to the outside) do you
think we could get him out!  All of a sudden everything along that
fence was a terror!  Finally, my 4-year-old nephew had to show him how 
it was done.  Then he spent the rest of the evening going in and out.
We're trying to figure out when the novelty will wear off.  Because as
soon as we got up this morning and went in the kitchen to make
breakfast, he was going in and out again.

Well, I didn't mean to ramble on.  I know you're going to have a lot
of wonderful times with Mr. McDuff.  He sounds like quite a
character!
From: shawn@Aardvark.Rain.COM (Shawn Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Has anyone ever...
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:59:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: aardvark.631
Distribution: na
Organization: Steve's UNIX System, Portland, Oregon

I feel very guilty about this situation, but I have to ask

Has any one ever had to have thier dog "sat" for an extended 
period of time?

My wife and I recently decided to move in with her grandmother, for 
MANY reasons some economical, however she is VERY affraid of dogs 
in general. When she met our Boston Terrier 'Rocky' she was agast
at how LARGE he is. (She was told that he is a small breed.) So we
decided that Rocky would be better off living with my in-laws for the
duration of our stay at grandma's.  (They offered to watch him if there
was no other way option, and I only agreed to move in with her if they
would watch him.) 

My question is; has anyone ever had to have their dog "sat" by some one
for a long period of time, approx one year, and how did the dog react.
How did the dog react when it was brought back to the family. 

This has not been an easy decision, however Rocky has spent alot of
time over at my in-laws and seems to like it there. They love him and
my mother-in-law stays at home all day and would be with him. My
father-in-law loves him very much and will take very good care of him.
I am not worried about his care, more about how he will react to the
change of scenery, the loss of both me and my wife (so far the only
constants in his life.) in his life. (We will visit him very often,
probably twice per month for a day, as he will be living about 4 hours
away.) Also I am conserned about his returning to our (new) house. 

If any of you have had to deal with a similar situation, I would be
very grateful for any input you can offer. 
email would be great.

thanks in advance.


-- 
shawn@aardvark.rain.com                     |"The number of UNIX
"I'm with the government, I'm here to help!"|machines has grown to 10
"The God I believe in                       |with more expected." 
isn't short of cash, MISTER!!" -Bono        | -The UNIX manual, *1972*
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: re: skunk
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:04:24 GMT

-- First of all, I would never recommend tomato juice.  You need a lot of
it, it makes a terrible mess even in a bath tub, and although it might
deaden the smell for awhile, on a damp day with a wet dog you get an
after scent!  I tried it on our Irish Terrier, she shook part way through
the dousing, and the bathroom looked like I'd slaughtered a steer!

My hairdresser recommended peroxide and water to cut the after smell of a
perm that was rather skunky, so the next time Duffy had a skunk adventure
I used that--one bottle p. to a plastic pail of water.  It seemed to
work well on her but her coat was short and hard.

Now with the same experience (twice) with our current Wheaten T. I've
discovered (at the advice of my groomer) Massengill douche!  I was very
surprised at this, even more surprised at the selection of scents!  I
think we ended up with something called Mountain Pine or Spring Air
or some such--it's been 2 years and I haven't needed it since.  My 
groomer now says she has 3 new things to try and is waiting for the first
skunky dog--which I hope will not be mine!  I've gotten smarter though
and don't let April out either in early am or at dusk except on a leash
with me or on her dog trolley.


 
Deb Whitney
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Heartworms
Date: 16 Apr 1992 21:35:59 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <167CB9935.INRS@ricevm1.rice.edu> INRS@ricevm1.rice.edu (April O.
Henry) writes:
>I have a dog that has contracted heartworms.  He is 2-1/2 years old.
>The vet thinks that he can undergo an arsenic based treatment program
>successfully.  If anyone out there has any experience, suggestions or
>general information please share it with me.

A co-worker recently had his dog successfully treated for heartworms at the
Rice Village Animal Hospital (right behind Rice Stadium). They seem to have a
pretty good track record for curing heartworms. I don't know what it cost him.
Your dog should recover completely, provided that he goes on heartworm
preventative once he's cured.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions)
Subject: Re: Vicious dog definition
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 01:22:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: vicious

In article <11258@borg.cs.unc.edu> 
	wagner@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) writes:

>The article contained an account of a barking lab who
>was shot to death by the Denver police because he was preventing a
>a utility employ from gaining access to the power box.  The court decided
>that the policeman's actions were justified under the law.

Of course, this could have been avoided with proper placement of the
fence, or moving the meter, etc.  This example is really a straw man --
the police probably didn't need to shoot the dog, because reading the
meter was not an urgent matter (it could be done another time).  Also,
discharging a firearm in a residential area is a serious matter.

Rhode Island has a sensible vicious dog definition:

	Any dog which when unprovoked, in a vicious or terrorizing manner
	approaches any person in apparent attitude of attack upon the streets,
	sidewalks, or any public grounds or places; or,

	Any dog with a known propensity, tendency or disposition to attack
	unprovoked, to cause injury or to otherwise endanger the safety of
	human beings or domestic animals; or,

	Any dog which bites, inflicts injury, assaults or otherwise attacks
	a human being or domestic animal without provocation on public or
	private property; or, 

	Any dog which is owned or harbored primarily for the purpose of dog
	fighting or any dog trained for dog fighting; or,

	Any dog not licensed according to state, city or town law.

	Notwithstanding the definitition of a vicious dog above, NO DOG MAY
	BE DECLARED VICIOUS IF AN INJURY OR DAMAGE IS SUSTAINED BY A PERSON WHO,
	AT THE TIME OF SUCH INJURY OR DAMAGE WAS SUSTAINED, WAS COMMITTING A
	WILLFUL TRESPASS OR OTHER TORT upon premises occupied by the owner or
	keeper of the dog, OR WAS TEASING, TORMENTING, ABUSING OR ASSAULTING
	THE DOG OR WAS COMMITTING OR ATTEMPTING TO COMMIT A CRIME.

	No dog may be declared vicious if an injury or damage was sustained by a
	domestic animal whaich at the time such injury or damage was sustained
	was teasing, tormenting, abusing or assaulting the dog.  NO DOG MAY BE
	DECLARED VICIOUS IF THE DOG WAS PROTECTING A HUMAN BEING WITHIN THE
	IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE DOG FROM AN UNJUSTIFIED ATTACK OR ASSAULT

[emphasis mine]

Michael Sierchio
-- 
Small Systems Solutions                   1563 Solano Avenue, Suite 123
sss@netcom.com                                  Berkeley, CA 94707-2116

The above-expressed opinions aren't necessarily
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Subject: Re: Queen Elizabeth
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 16:43:59 GMT


In a previous article, saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski K-9's)) says:

>
>Queen Elizabeth was well known for her love of the canine species...

I think you may be confusing two queens.  The present Queen is Elizabeth
and her great interest in dogs seems to be only Pembroke Welsh Corgis (the
tailless variety).  She is trying to form a new breed by crossing a
Pembroke with a dachshund.  Her sister Margaret prefers them.

Queen Victoria on the other hand was extremely fond of borzois and collies.

Prince Charles prefers hunting dogs -- Harvey is his favorite and is a golden
lab.  Beautiful animal.  

For further information on British Royalty and dogs, I understand that there
is book on the subject but I don't know the author or title.  There is 
a company in Oakland, CA called Focus on Royalty that could probably help
you find it if you are interested.

Hope this helps to satisfy your curiousity.

Evelyn

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Marla Belzowski    saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
>Mauii Nikki Belzowski CD CGC TDI CERF
>Brittish Legend of Beowulf (1leg CD) CGC TDI CERF   tri-color collies
>
--
From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Vicious dog definition
Keywords: vicious
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:22:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Apr14.142211.1737
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

While Michael's post is, by and large, well taken, I do have a comment.

In article <5jxj+4k.sss@netcom.com> sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions) writes:
= 
= Rhode Island has a sensible vicious dog definition:
= 
[...]
= 	Any dog not licensed according to state, city or town law.
[...]

I disagree with the inclusion of licensing under the definition of
vicious dogs.  Regardless of your views of dog-licensing, failure
to have a license does *not* affect a dog's disposition.  My own
view is that licensing is a revenue-collection scheme (much like
speeding tickets :) and should be a separate regulation.  As I said
earlier, the rest seems sensible.

I think it was mentioned that this is the Rhode Island law--is it
supplemented or replaced by local laws or is there a pre-emption
law to prevent that?


-- 
Best,

Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
	  crs@lanl.gov
From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog murdered using train (longish) (disgusting)
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:01:51 GMT
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center

In article <485@alden.UUCP>, sgr@alden.UUCP writes...
>                     Dog's Killing Stirs Outrage

It's a shame that lynch mobs have gone out of fashion; I would
cheerfully string these bastards up.  Here's hoping that they
wind up in some hellhole of a prison where they suffer the same sort
of unmitigated cruelty that they forced on a defenseless animal.

--

---Rsk
rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: davids@c3.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: IT'S PUPPY DAY!
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:40:06 GMT

First off I want to thank everyone who responded to me with suggestions
for names for the new puppy.  We are still wrangling over a few choices:
	Gaymardon's Emancipation (or Great Emancipator)
	Gaymardon's Tall Tales
	Gaymardon's Perfect Union
and the joke name, which he very well may end up with, Gaymardon's Grand
Marquis (after Lincoln cars;-))

Anyway, as the post's subject says, TODAY IS PUPPY DAY!!!

I'm leaving work in about an hour to make the 2 hour drive to the 
airport to meet his plane.  I was so excited last night I could hardly
sleep--like a kid a christmas.  I'm also very nervous, but have
prepared well, I think.  I'm also taking tomorrow off to be with him
and take him to meet the vet.

So, you'll all be hearing lots of puppy questions from me soon, I fear.

Again, thanks for all the suggestions and support in finding and 
naming this puppy--I may have to call him "Net Dog" or something ;-)

-- 


David G. Simmons
davids@lanl.gov

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