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From: Stephen I Miller <similler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Gopher
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:47:14 GMT
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Has anyone out there used a communications package called Gopher on a Novell 
LAN?  I am trying to get this to work but am having problems.

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From: David Escalante <descalante@bbn.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: 50 MgHz DX2s, external SCSI (2 topics)
Date: 2 Sep 1992 17:38:24 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
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Greetings,
I am spec-ing a couple new servers and have run into 2 questions:

1) our local JWP/Businessland engineers advise against using a 50 MgHz
486 DX2
    in a Novell server, but I can't get them to explain why in about 2
weeks of trying
    to set up a meeting.  Anyone know if this is a problem, and if so,
why?
2) I would like to hook up external SCSI drives to a server.  It already
has an
    Adaptec 1740 in there for a DAT tape.  But I don't see a "SCSI.DSK"
    with the Netware distribution disks for 3.11.  Do I use the "AHA1540?
 What 3rd 
    parties have people had success with?  Do THEY provide the driver? 
And finally, 
    can I run a SCSI and an ISA drive on the same server at the same time
(putting
    both drivers in the startup file)?

Thanks in advance,
David Escalante
Bolt Beranek & Newman, Inc.
descalante@bbn.com
From: ellis@epca.UUCP (Ellis Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Netware Partitions
Keywords: Netware Partitions
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:39:57 GMT
Organization: Ellis Carter Associates, Metairie, LA

(Repost)

I think this posting got trashed when  ANDREW  came through.

When you purchase a hard drive from any MFG. and it has a Netware partition
already on it, is there any difference between a Netware partition for 3.11
and a Netware partition for 2.2?

I was told by a CNE that the reason why I was getting swapped blocks on
my NEW 300mb  HD is because the HD was partitioned for iNetware 2.2 and 
I had Netware 3.11 on the partition which he upgraded. 

Its not that I don't believe him, but I just want to hear it from someone
who DID NOT sell me the HD  or install the Netware 3.11 that I am having 
trouble with.

As I do not think I have a good news connection presently, I would i
appreciate any comments sent to  ellis@epca.wpg.com

I will be glad to summarize if the response warrants.

-- 
Ellis Carter
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New Orleans, LA     (504) 456-2245
From: steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.novell,comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: How to map NW386 virtual to physical addresses?
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 11:47:08 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Presoft Architects

j_pan@ranger.enet.dec.com (Joanna Pan) writes:

> 
> In article <n++nm5j.buccola@netcom.com>, buccola@netcom.com (David Buccola) w
> > 
> >I'm writing my first device driver for a Micro Channel based
> >Netware 386 server and need a little help.  How to I map a
> >Netware 386 virtual address to a physical memory address that
> >is usable on the Micro Channel?
> >
> 
> You can use support routines provided by Novell to do physical <-> virtual
> conversion. I remember the routine names are:
> 
> 1. MapAbsoluteAddressToCodeOffset
> 2. MapAbsoluteAddressToDataOffset
> 3. MapCodeOffsetToAbsoluteAddress
> 4. MapDataOffsetToAbsoluteAddress
> 
> Check with your Device Driver Functional Spec., because Novell may have updat
> the spec. and changed the names and/or the way to call them.
> 
> 
>         Joanna Pan

The newer specs are available from Novell.  They also include the new
calls:

   GetRealModeWorkspace
   GetServerPhysicalOffset
   ReadPhysicalMemory

Steve
   
 Steve Kohlenberger, PreSoft Architects      Internet: steve@presoft.com
 Novell Professional Developer                            (714) 538-6002
 Specialists in NLM and Disk/Tape Driver development for NetWare 3.X/4.X
From: kwang@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kevin Wang aka The Scarecrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Problems when installing Novell 3.1
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:47:41 GMT
Organization: The Outland Riders

In comp.sys.novell rparra@usachux1.usach.cl (Rafael de la Parra) writes:
>	When I tried to install the new vesion of Novell, I lost one pc,
>the server, in the oldest version i can used it like another pc, but
>here no, what I must do to fix these little problem??

There is no such product as a non-dedicated server with Novell V3.x.
This is done primarily for reliability (so that a dos program won't
accidentally kill the server).  

   - Kevin Wang
...And now, for your local station identification, on the hour, every hour...
kwang@hermes.calpoly.edu or kwang@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: alan@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alan Strassberg)
Subject: Re: DAT and Arcserve.
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:56:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.072550.7806@klaava.Helsinki.FI> kirkinen@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teo Kirkinen) writes:

>: What is the largest capacity SCSI DAT Tape available now?
>: 
>: Will it work with ARCSERVE?

>I have just ordered a HP C2225B (= model 35480B) and I sure hope that 
>it will work with Arcserve (it is listed as a certified tape drive).

	The HP drive above works fine with ARCserve, this is what I use.
	One glitch - since it's a 4-8G compression DAT, ARCserve doesn't
	tell you how much space is remaining on the tape as it does
	with 2G DATs. Oh well.

					alan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: John@gst-soft.demon.co.uk (GST Software Products)
Subject: DAT and Arcserve.
Organization: GST Software Products
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:31:04 +0000


What is the largest capacity SCSI DAT Tape available now?

Will it work with ARCSERVE?

John
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From: jts@tundra.Central.Sun.COM (Jim Stewart Sun-Bloomington MN SE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NetWare NFS NLM slowness
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:20:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jts@tundra.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: snowman.central.sun.com
Keywords: NFS

I've got a customer with the following configuration:

Sun 630MP running SunOS 4.1.2
16 Sun IPC's running SunOS 4.1.2
Token Ring on all systems

NetWare NFS NLM on their Novell server

Accessing a large file (700k +) on their Novell server via NFS took
6 minutes - and that only resulted in half the file being copied before
the transfer failed.  However, small files don't seem to be a problem
at least as far as being transferred successfully.

Does anyone have any experience in tuning a Novell server running the NetWare
NFS NLM product?  If so, can you share any tuning parameters you tweaked to 
deal with performance, especially for large files?

Thanks for your help.
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Support for Multiple Frame Types
Keywords: bind, load, frame=
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:40:59 GMT
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany

mcc@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Merton Campbell Crockett) writes:

[...]
>I restored my original IPX.COM and used RCONSOLE to access the least heavily
>used server and modified its AUTOEXEC.CNF(?) file.  I added a second LOAD
>statement for the interface to our Novell LAN in which I used the FRAME=
>option to specify ETHERNET_II.  Both LOAD statements were identical save
>for the FRAME= option and elimination of the NAME= option on the second state-
>ment.  I added a second BIND statement which specified the interface and
>second frame type that IPX was to use.

>Then I "down"ed the server and brought it back up.  I received a complaint
>or warning that I had re-entrantly loaded 3C505.LAN and when the BIND state-
>ments were processed received a prompt asking me which binding to use.  I
>selected 2 for the ETHERNET_II frame type and requested that I specify a
>network.  It complained when I used the default 1.  I then specified 2.

You could avoid that request by using the name= parameter.

      load 3cXXX frame=YYY name=Name1
      load 3cXXX frame=ZZZ name=Name2

the you can refer that name in the bind-statement:

       bind ipx to Name1

[...]
>Other questions:

>   1.  Are two LOAD statements for the same interface really required?

Yes.

>   2.  If there is only one LOAD statement will two fully-qualified BIND
>       statements accomplish the same purpose of having both packet types
>       supported?

No.

>   3.  An "fc" of IPX.COM and the ECONFIG'ed version reveals one difference
>       around 29C0 displayed as 1110.  This doesn't equal 8137.  Are these
>       flags?

No Idea. Probably yes, maybe also a changed jump address, since the 
framtype not only differs in number but also in layout. A modified
routine might be required.

>   4.  What is the significance of the NET= option?

Each frametype used on a particular wire, constitutes, from the logic of 
Netware routing, a distinct network.

>   5.  Is the modified server really using both packet types?

Yes.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dhoward@novell.com (Dirk W. Howard)
Subject: Re: Netware Linker (386LINK.EXE)
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:54:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.090654.13858@nuscc.nus.sg> btptan%Solomon.Technet.sg (Benjamin Tan Tien Ping) writes:
>From: btptan%Solomon.Technet.sg (Benjamin Tan Tien Ping)
>Subject: Netware Linker (386LINK.EXE)
>Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:06:54 GMT
>[ Article crossposted from bit.listserv.novell ]
>[ Author was Benjamin Tan Tien Ping ]
>[ Posted on Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:52:28 GMT ]
>
>
>I have with me the Novell C Network Compiler/386, part of Novell's
>Professional Development Series. It is in effect, Watcom C. The version
>we have is v1.10. 
>
>The question I have is Where Is The Linker? The Compiler and Tools
>User's Manual makes reference to "The NetWare 386 linker" (pg 1-6 to
>1-8) without comment as to where it is to be found. The file is
>certainly no where (that I can see) on any of the distribution disks. Pg
>1-2 on setting up the environment variables states that "The disk and
>directory of the Netware linker should also be included in the path."
>From it's example, which places the directory c:\netware\bin on the
>path, I would assume that the linker is perhaps not part of the compiler
>package but part of the Netware package itself. However, I have been
>unable to locate this file (386LINK.EXE) anywhere in the NW v3.11
>distribution disks also. 
>
>Can someone please point me the location of this elusive file. Has it
>been renamed somewhere along the line? Is it a separate purchase :-( ?
>
>Any help appreciated. Thanks.
>
>Benjamin T P Tan
> 


Try looking for NLMLINK.EXE for linking NLM's.  If you want to write 32-bit
DOS apps then you would use the WLINK.EXE.

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                     "I'm sorry Ralph... not even the Networking
                      Fairy can pull this one out of the fire."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Adding a hard drive
From: eric.lentz@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Eric Lentz) 
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: eric.lentz@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Eric Lentz) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121


MM>Our Novell net (3.11) was installed by the vendor we purchased it from
MM>we would like to add another hard drive to it, but we would rather add
MM>ourselves than pay mucho deneros to have the vendor put it in.  Is thi
MM>involved process, or is it pretty straightforward?


It's a pretty simple operation as long as you know a little about what's 
on the inside of the machine.  If you go with a SCSI drive (& adapter), 
you probably can't go wrong.




--- WinQwk 2.0 #69
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: SNMP Agents for 3.11 ?
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:16:13 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Sep1.162248.1@qis.dofasco.ca> hilbig_t@qis.dofasco.ca writes:
>Does Netware 3.1x have an SNMP agent NLM that I could use for sending SNMP
>events from our fileservers to a single non-Novell SNMP management station?

I'm not sure what you want to know -- in particular, i'm not sure what
you're thinking of when you say "events" -- but the NetWare v3.11 TCP/IP
facility, which includes an SNMP agent, supports MIB-II, including the
MIB-II traps.  If that's all you're looking for, you're golden.

If you're asking whether you could write your own utilities to support
MIBs or traps beyond MIB-II, then the news is not so good.  You can
always create and send SNMP traps yourself.  They are, after all, just
UDP packets.  Getting help from the SNMP agent for generating traps,
though, or supporting your own MIB aren't really options.  While those
things are theoretically possible, Novell won't tell you how and won't
promise anything you do will work in future releases.  (Actually, in
case you're tempted to risk it, i happen to know that anything you do
for the 3.11 SNMP agent *won't* work in future releases.  The good news
is future SNMP agents will have a supportable API which Novell will
publish.  But don't tell anyone you heard it from me. :-)

>Now that Novell is a member of OSF, will their management software
>(which I am only just starting to look into) support the OSF DME?

All i know for sure is that we support SNMP.  If that makes us
compliant with OSF, woopee!  If not, i can't answer your question.  I
don't track OSF myself and i don't have anything to do with decisions
about supporting the OSF DME.
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: LAN diver stats
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Distribution: all
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:22:17 GMT

In article <nagin.69@odie.ee.wits.ac.za> nagin@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Hittandra Nagin) writes:
>The performance on the network has become very erratic, sometimes fine
>sometimes very slow....
>
>My question is: Is it a hardware fault on the fileserver or on a
>workstation connected to the fileserver?

Rule #1 of network debugging: the problem is almost always in what has
changed.  Have you added any new PCs to this net or done any other
recabling?  If not, the next thing to check for are loose connections,
a busted hub, and infrastructure problems like that.  The least likely
is something busted in the file server or client (although you can't
rule that out, either).

Another possibility, of course, is that you've simply exceeded the
capacity of the network....
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
From: vanwalle@ocpt.ccur.com (Van Wallendael)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NETX vs. EMSNETX vs. XMSNETX
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:23:47 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corporation, Oceanport NJ
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Seth Chaiklin (chaiklin@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
: 
: I have searched various ftp archives, but I could not find any
: text that discussed the differences between NETX, EMSNETX, and XMSNETX.
: I was just curious, at a general level, about the benefits and
: disadvantages of using one or the other.  I would be  happy to
: read a text about it, if only I could find one!
: Thanks for help.
:   Seth Chaiklin

From what I understand, the EMS version will load into Expanded memory,
the XMS version will load into Extended memory.  The use of these drivers
may impeed performance by as much as 30 percent.  I read this somewhere in
the Novell manuals; I think 3.11.  I have tried both but find that using
DOS 5 and the standard netx loaded into high memory works much better.  I
don't seem to lose the speed but regain about 40k of low DOS memory.  I also
load the IPX high and regain an additional 20k.

Hope this helped.  
Jeff Van Wallnedael
LAN Specialist
From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: How is nearest server determined when two are on the same cable?
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:53:47 -0500

In article <dhoward.43.0@novell.com>, dhoward@novell.com (Dirk W. Howard) writes:
> The "nearest" server is determined by which server can respond first to the
> GetNearestServer packet.  That is it.  There is no fancy algorithm to it at 
> all!  There are no ties.  If there was a tie on a CSMA/CD system then you 
> would have a colision.  Hence, no tie.  If you need to connect to a 
> particular server then use the preferred server option of the shell.

Great!  How do I specify a preferred server to my bootroms?  (That's a
rhetorical question.  I know the answer -- after years of complaining, you
still can't!)

I would much rather have a fancy algorithm which, one supposes, would have some
appropriate knobs to twiddle, whereby servers on the same cable would elect one
of their number to be "nearest", causing the others not to answer.  Kind of
like the DECnet "designated router", determined by having the routing nodes
compare Router Priority settings.

GetNearestServer should have been called GetFastestServer so it wouldn't
confuse us.

BTW, in the interim we got lucky -- the department running the FastestServer
agreed to SET REPLY TO GET NEAREST SERVER = OFF since they don't have any
diskless stations to foul up this way.  Next time, though, we might not be so
lucky.

>                      "I'm sorry Ralph... not even the Networking
>                       Fairy can pull this one out of the fire."

Sad but true.
-- 
Mark H. Wood, Lead Analyst/Programmer    +1 317 274 0749   [@disclaimer@]
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From:  wag@msu.ntc.togliatti.su (Wladimir A.Gorokhov)
Subject: Thanks. Now I have Pegasus and Charon !
Reply-To: wag@msu.ntc.togliatti.su
Organization: AvtoVAZ , UGM
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:35:23 GMT

                 Hi.

        Many thanks to all, who help me. Now I have Pegasus and Charon.

        Special thanks to ken@tcs.com and nenaas@extern.uio.uk

*  Wladimir A.Gorokhov       *      Volzsky Automobile Plant , UGM        *
*  wag@msu.ntc.togliatti.su  * Tel(007 848)39-14-13,Fax(007 848)39-15-06, *
*                            *   mail: 445042,Russia,Togliatti,p/b 1686   *
From: smithj@lyra.scg.hac.com (Jan Smithj x6004)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: problems with IPXODI and NETX on 8088s
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:23:58 GMT
Reply-To: smithj@lyra.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., Carlsbad, CA


I'm Using Netware 3.11.   Need info concerning errors that occur while
using old 8088s.  (2 floppy and XTs) with a 3COM 3c501 card using
IPXODI and NETX.  (not SHGEN)   No errors occur when IPXODI or NETX
execute, but 'Error receiving from network'  happens when trying to
send/receive any commands to the server.  I've changed the following
list of parameters:

IPX RETRY COUNT=40
SPX ABORT TIMEOUT=1000
SPX LISTEN TIMEOUT=270
SPX VERIFY TIMEOUT=108

Please send replies via email at smithj@lyra.hac.com.  I will post a 
summary for all to utilize.  

Thanks.
J.Smith


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jmfres11@ucs.usl.edu (Karthikeyan Gurnswamy)
Subject: Re: How to load PSERVER.VAP automatically
Keywords: PSERVER.VAP, Printing
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:48:30 GMT

In article <dhoward.44.0@novell.com> dhoward@novell.com (Dirk W. Howard) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.044542.129@polaris.utu.fi> jsakki@polaris.utu.fi (Jarkko Sakki) writes:
>>From: jsakki@polaris.utu.fi (Jarkko Sakki)
>>Subject: How to load PSERVER.VAP automatically

>>We have an old server witch already has Novell Netware 2.13 (?)
>>installed and we would like to make this old 386 our dedicated 
>>print server. Everything else works fine, but after I have put 
>>PSERVER.VAP to SYS:SYSTEM this machine requires that print 
>>server name must be manuanlly typed from system console at startup 
>>time. Under 3.X this can be easyly avoided (Print Server name 

>>Jarkko.Sakki@utu.fi * 20520 TURKU, FINLAND * CS Student at University of Turku
>>*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
>Version 1.22 of PSERVER.VAP has an autoload feature.  You need to be using 
>NetWare 2.15c or above to use it.  Get the file PSERV1.ZIP from 
>ftp.novell.com at 137.65.12.2 or download it from NetWire from NOVLIB\06.
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dirk W. Howard              These are my personal opinions.  No one else 
>Novell Technical Support    in their right would claim them.
>dhoward@novell.com
>                     "I'm sorry Ralph... not even the Networking
>                      Fairy can pull this one out of the fire."
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howdy,
There is another slick way of doing autoloading of VAPs. I'm not sure of the
name of the CFG file (I think it is VAP.CFG) where you can put all the names
of the VAPs you want to load and say something like:
VAP PSERVER.VAP WAIT = 20
or something like that. I've tried it once and it is great !. The WAIT  
statement tells you the server to wait for a response upto 20 seconds and
then load the VAP automatically. You can also see the server counting from
20 down to 0...

P.S: I don't have Netware reference books with me right now, so I hope
my memory is reliable.

Karthik
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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: 3c505 Packet Driver problems
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:25:12 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <hippo.34.0@sonoma.edu> hippo@sonoma.edu writes:

   We are using a Network General Sniffer with a 3c505 card. The setting are
   IRQ 11, DMA 6 I/O 0300. For some reason when I load the packet driver for
   this card it takes about 45 seconds for it to load. In addition I can not
   get IPX to load the sniffer Frezzzzzzzzzzzzeee. The IPX is from BYU and is
   working with packet driver on all other PC's. The Packet Driver is version
   10. Any ideas ?

The driver is known to be slow.  I'll be working on it, since I just
had a customer sign up for 3c505 support.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
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