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From: sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani)
Subject: Re: the terminator part n : )
Summary: Hard-on's during prayers
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:03:54 GMT

In article <1SEP199222370546@iago.caltech.edu>, mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL) writes:
> In article <1992Sep2.015918.754@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes...

I remember an old one:

 A khan shahib goes to friday prayer, and maulvi is talking
about what happens in hereafter. The maulvi says, hoors have
a face as white and creame, their body is as soft as baby, and
a person can have sex with as many as one wants, and you will not
get tired of having sex, and you will keep on chaning parters
and on and on ...

 The khan shahib cannot take it any more and yells:

  Khucha, I have come here to say my prayers, not to get a hard-on.


Well, I know it is kinda lame one, I forgot the actual RAW
language, maybe one of the younger SCPians would remember.

Without that language it kinda loses it in translation.

regards,

-Naveed

PS: Once I went to a Tablighi Jammat conference in Louisiana and the
the maulvi from Malaysia was doing that also. I think almost
everyone wished that they should die instantly, because hereafter
sounded too  good.

I counted the number of times one could have sex, using only female
in a sexual encounter----- it was about 350 trillion

It was based on number of rooms, number of hoor/room, etc

It was all male perspective, nobody worried about females in hereafter.
Maybe they dont die.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mg819306@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Subject: ABCDs
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:43:31 GMT

The ABCDs I have come across here in the US happen to be extremely
fanatical, one wonders why?  The Indian hindus I have met want
India to be a Hindu state, also for the temple for Ayodhia, most
of the material and finance was sent from abroad.  The Sikh terrorists
who are fighting for an independent Sikh state are supported mainly from
Sikhs settled in Canada.  The Pakistani ABCDs are always harping of
the brotherhood of Islam, for them nothing else matters and they support the
cause of an Islamic state, more strongly than other Pakistanis. 
In my experience in India the temple is a very small issue.  The BJP
has fought for the temple and could not come in power, whereas the 
Janta Dal, an extremely new party came into power on the corruption
issue.  And now the Congress I is in power their plank is secularism.
Thus my conclusion is that Indian ABCDs have lost all touch with the
happenings in India.  Is this also true about Pakistani ABCDs?
And also here in the US where the ABCDs are always in contact with 
different cultures, so what makes them narrow minded?

Manoj
From: husaia@vccnorthc.its.rpi.edu (Atiya Husain)
Subject: Nazam by Ibne Insha
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:34:55 GMT


A beautiful nazam by Ibne Insha from his book "iss basti kay eik 
koochay main" 

regards,
Atiya

----------------------------------------------------------------
Joog bajoog ki baatain jhooti sub jee ka bahlaana - hoo
phir bhe hum say jaatay jaatay aik ghazal sun jaana - hoo

sari duniya aqal ki bayri kon yahan per siana - hoo
nahaq naam dharain sub hum ko deewana deewana - hoo

nagri nagri lakhoon dwaaray har dwaaray per lakh sakhi
lakin jub hum bhool chukay hain daaman ka phalaana - hoo

saat samundar par ki gori khail zara kirtar kay daykh
hum ko tha iss shahr main milna uss ko tha milwana - hoo

aik hi soorat aik hi chehra, basti, perbat, jangal, penth
or kisi kay ab kiya hon gay chchorh hamain bahkaana - hoo

hum bhi jhootay tum bhi jhootay aik ussi ka sacha naam
jiss say deepak jalna seekha parwana jal jana - hoo

seedhay mun ko aan dabochain meethi baataib sundar bol
Mir, Nazir, Kabir or Insha saara aik gharaana - hoo
From: B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: QQQ: Islamic Answers To Uncomfortable Questions
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:41:54 GMT





It has been seen that on various newsgroups people keep raising many
uncomfortable questions about Islam, Mohammed and Quran. This pattern
has repeated itself over last several years causing too much traffic
on several cultural newsgroups which are in no way connected with
religious discussion.

To all those people who want to raise any uncomfortable probing
questions on Islam, here is compiled answers to all such questions.
This list has been compiled by observing answers over long period
of time by a panel of islamic experts (who incidentally are currently
in hide due to death threats from some tolerant followers of God ne 
Allah.:-)").


 (HEALTH WARNING: ONLY FOR SPRITUALLY INCLINED PEOPLE)







QUESTION: ^%&%#$^%(*()*^^%Y^%)(*&*)(&(*&(Y&(R^%%$^&T& ?? 
         (Actually question does not matter )

ANSWERS: Actually, you can program your computer to generate answer picking
randomly one of the theories given below: 

a) XYZ theory. ( Ruler X is unislamic, State Y is unislamic, Action Z is 
unislamic) and hence.... 

b)"Lunatic's Theory" - Action X  is actually jew's conspiracy and hence.... 

c)"Random Throw Theory" - The Crusade did  X Too, Religion ZZ did
this too, No other religion YY this too? and hence.... 

d) "Void Theory" - Actually there is no "islamic state" and hence....

y) "Barking Dog Theory"- Have you seen your own religion QQ which has
X, Y and Z, and hence....


:-) :-)  :-) for humour impaired

All flames will be passed to Mr Salman Rushdie for further action.

Cheers,

bkumar
----------------------------------
- all stanadard disclaimers apply. Pl. send me email if you really really
feel offended and have had atleast two days of sleepless nights.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: The Real Problem (Was Is Islam equal to Intolearnce )
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:36:05 GMT

In article <dogar.715445091@opal5> dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
>gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
>
>>Wrong Analogy Sir. USA govt. (or even Indian govt.) does 
>>not mind what you do as long as what you do affects only 
>>you (sucide is an exception though). Stealing, murder and 
>>other crimes are not activities that are relegated to one's 
>>personal self. They affect the community and hence it is 
>>right for the community to bother about what affects them. 
>
>
>drugs, marriage laws, prostitution, gambling, public nudity, pornography, ...

Yep. All of the above are not relegated to personal self. They 
affect the whole community.  I don't need to go into the details 
of how they do, do I ? 

regards,
--   
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    ____/  __  /  __  /  __  /  /  |  \  /|   LIFE'S COMPLEX - IT HAS 
   / __   /   /  /   /  /   /  /   | (o)(o)   REAL & IMAGINARY PARTS  
  /   /  /   /   ___/  __  /  /    C      _) 
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E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: ever heard of the KILLFILES?(was RE:Strawberry Fields Forever
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:27:42 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <Btn0E0.2q3@acsu.buffalo.edu>, memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> [part2+latest flashback of crazy recollections]

[garbage disposed of thanks to BITSTREAM SANITATION DEPT] 

>and waking up the khan-baba who owned the herd.
                   ^^^^^^^^^
[yet another miraculous patchwork by BITSTREAM SANITATION DEPT]   
 
> Another famous pathan in the neighbourhood owned a bhutta-stand(corncob).
                 ^^^^^^
[yet another miraculous patchwork by BITSTREAM SANITATION DEPT]   

> Head to yet-yunder pathan who
                     ^^^^^^

[BITSTREAM SANITATION DEPT we salute you]


> Naveed

WELCOME TO MY KILLFILES BIGOT.  
YOU ARE PROBABLY THE KIND WHO WOULD HAVE CALLED THE BLACKS "NIGGERS
IF YOU HAD BLOND HAIR OR BLUE EYES
THE SADDEST PART OF IT ALL IS THAT YOU AND 99% OF KARACIATES ARE RASCISTS
IN THE THIRD DEGREE
WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING IT

ANY LAST WORDS?


PAKHTOON AND PROUD OF IT 
AAKHAN

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Subject: Re: the terminator part n : )
Summary: Hard-on's during prayers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:19:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.060354.849@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes...
>In article <1SEP199222370546@iago.caltech.edu>, mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep2.015918.754@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes...
> 
> 
>PS: Once I went to a Tablighi Jammat conference in Louisiana and the
>the maulvi from Malaysia was doing that also. I think almost
>everyone wished that they should die instantly, because hereafter
>sounded too  good.

     yeah but dying before doing any good deeds probably won't be good...

> 
>I counted the number of times one could have sex, using only female
>in a sexual encounter----- it was about 350 trillion

yuck, novelty will be lost to say the least, yuck yuck...

>It was all male perspective...

     Question,okay, when men die (after doing good deeds) they will 
     	(hopefully) get these gorgeous women-like creatures but what 
     	about women, what do they get in 'thereafter'? Long time back
     	someone mentioned they will get their husbands, in that case,
     	those poor husbands won't end up with hoors but with their
        own earthly wives, is that good or bad? (poor guys- Why marry then?) :)

       [or do women get hooras? :) if so, how many? ]

       Yet another theories says, 'good women' will be transformed into
       hoors? but still 70:1 ratio would instantly kill a guy from Caltech 
       who is probably used to 1:7 odds againt him ;) [Then again, one can't
       die there and one would want to and still wouldn't - horrible stuff :)

       {late night ramblings...}

Asim Mughal
[Standard Disclaimer]


>Maybe they dont die.
>
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC BROTERHOOD - BOSNIA V/S SOMALIA
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:54:57 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong


B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:

 Why are
>the islamic governments of IRAN ,Pakistan, Bangladesh who
>are all very vocal on Bosnia supply food and medicine
>to Somalia or Islamic Brotherhood just stops at the gate
>of Africa.

>That only tells about total HYPOCRACY Of ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD
>and ISLAMIC Equality.

>Regards,

>bkumar



What a good slap on the Pseudo Islamic Brotherhood.

These Pseudo Islamic countries are active only for those Muslims who are 
under trouble from other religious groups and not when they are killed
by other Muslims or natural disaster.

What major steps ISlamic countries have taken for Kurds before Gulf War?
None.
Because Kurds rights were deprived by fellow Muslims and not by a Christan
country.
It is wrong to critisize ISlamic countries on Black and White racism.

But it is 100% true that these Pseudo Islamic Countries'
Pseudo Islamic Brotherhood become active only when they think
**Islam is in danger** because of other religion.

What a shame!!!
What a shame!!!

Bye
Adil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.rights.human
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam a fascist ....
Date: 26 Aug 1992 13:08:38 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug25.040557.20020@tamsun.tamu.edu> gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
>
>
>In case of religion however, there is no clear definition of what balspehmy
>is. The religious clergy who take such grand stands on their religion are 
>themselves not unanimous about it. The punishments then is up to the whims
>and fancies of these clergy with no restraining factors on the range of 
>punishments to be allotted. Under such a regime, even a muslim would not 
>be permitted to voice his intellectual criticisms on Islam (I dare anyone 
>here on the net who says Burkha is not mandated to say the same thing in
>SaudiArabia or Iran).  >>

Well, it may be true for "religions", but is definitely not true for
"Islam", which by the way, is not some set of personal rituals.
Thus, to see the real test of whether a real law of blasphemy exists
or not is to wait till some Muslim country really makes Quran its
constitution (not some hodge-podge elitist gag like Pakistan or
Sheikh gag like S. Arabia)

>
>If that is the case, then why not let Allah throw the actors into hell
>or wherever he pleases.

A remark as old as history itself! Quran replies to a very similar
objection put 1400 years ago:

Fa' unaziroo, Ya-ntaziroon

So, wait! We are waiting too!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: usman@leland.Stanford.EDU (Usman Hameed)
Subject: Re: English-Urdu Combos
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:58:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.234058.5082@gw.wmich.edu> 92siddiqui@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.165657.4749@seas.gwu.edu>, ahmad@seas.gwu.edu (Aftab Ahmad) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> 	For Example kay tor par
>> 
>> 	By God di qasmei'N
>> 
>> 	Nothing vee nai'N
>> 
>> Any hore?
>
>Dear Sohneo
>=============================================================================
> If you do not know sweet punjabi language, meherbani farmaao tey raham karo.
> Sjjan.
>=============================================================================
>Tariq


Hey Tariq,

Puhleeeeeeez let us uninitiated philistines into the sanctum of
sweetly spoken punjabi.  We might not be correct but we are wannabees.
How can we join the ranks of the stalwarts from the land of five rivers?

Sarkar sadday vi koi jazbaat naiN.

Usman
From: ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: How the Europeans overtook the Arabs...
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:07:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sebONji00VAwE2_pFI
Organization: Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


A book I looked at recently had three reasons why the
Europeans were successful in taking over the sea-routes
from the Arabs.

(i) Since the Mediterreanean was an Islamic pond (so the book
says :-)), the Europeans had to learn to navigate in the much
more inclement Atlantic.

(ii) Islam uses a muezzin to call for prayers; the Christians
use church bells. The expertise in casting bronze bells was
easily transferred to casting cannon.

(iii) general Middle Eastern shortage of timber !!

So, with skills honed in the unforgiving, stormy Atlantic,
cheaper resources to build ships, and superior armaments,
the Europeans edged out the Arabic and later Ottoman fleets.

Any comments ?

-arun gupta
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Multiple wives
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:22:49 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:

>	The verse which allows pologamy "was revealed after the 
>	battle of Uhud in which many Muslims were killed, leaving
>	widows and orphans for whom due care was incumbent upon
>	the Muslim survirors." 6

>	The translation of the verse is as follows:

>		If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly
>	with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three,
>	or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal
>	justly (with them), then (marry) only one...
>		(Qur'an 4:3)


This is funny. Why is it not possible to take care of widows and orphans
except by marrying the widows? All over the world (including the Muslim
world), people take care of poor relatives. Is it not possible that the
widow may cherish the memory of her dead husband and not wish to become
someone's 2/3/4 wife? Is no Muslim going to take care of her?

Sumitro
From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC BROTERHOOD - BOSNIA V/S SOMALIA
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:35:27 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <94884@bu.edu> khalid@bu-bio.bu.edu (Rasheed A. Khalid) writes:
>Nice points by B. Kumar on the subject.
>
>I heard on CNN that Pakistan was going to send 500 troops to
>Somalia.  I don't know whether they went there or not. Does
>anyone know about this for sure?

Yes I heard it on NPR News, a week ago. Also today armed Somali bandits
shot and wounded two UN guards. One soldier, an Egyptian, is said to be
in serious condition. Not sure about the nationality of the other guard.



Naveed.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
From: hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE)
Subject: Re: Re meaning of 14th august
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 17:06:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.052515.24710@cco.caltech.edu> asim@heckle.ugcs.caltech.edu (A. M. Mughal) writes:
>In article <l9aqg6INNh0i@phad.hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug21.162726.19176@uceng.UC.EDU> rbhatnag@uceng.UC.EDU (raj bhatnagar) writes:
>>>
>>>>		As you can see, I am relatively very new to the computers
>>>
>>>Oh yeah? 
>>>You sure must have a very slow learning curve.
>>
>>
>>Actually I am hoping he will post, all the same. It might be interesting
>>to hear from a life form at a level slightly higher than Mustafa Ibrahim. 
>
>
>	Poor Ibrahim, his name gets dragged in with mine for no reason 


      well............he does study at the school of mines!:)

     
>>
>>
>>Samit
>
>Asim Mughal
>[Standard Disclaimer]


-harshavardhan deshmane
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu

Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:14208 soc.rights.human:3201
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: Is Islam equal to Intolearnce and Fascism ?
Date: 26 Aug 1992 13:55:57 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Aug25.210415.26243@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>In article <l9ktghINNcaa@pageboy.cs.utexas.edu> hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder) writes:
::
::5: A Muslim must be prepared to accept Quran as the whole constitution
::   of his/her life. He/she is not at liberty to select part of it
::   which suits and rejects the part that he/she doesnot like:
::
::	afa tu'-minoon-a bi baAd ul kitab-i wa tukfaroon-a- bi 
::        baAd ul kitab ? wa an-tum tutloon-al kitaaba!
::
::
::	Do you want to accpet part of it and reject the other? and
::        then you claim that you recite the book!
::
:
:That's the whole problem with the way you bigots think. Let me remind you
:and your likes that PAKISTAN IS NOT AN ISLAMIC COLONY.

Sorry wrong number. I only converse with "my-likes" who 
are "bigot" enough NOT to loose their "equanimity" at the
very first step.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
Subject: Re: Eik pent, do kaj
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:38:47 GMT




In article <BttwEL.Jx4@ecf.toronto.edu> obaid@ecf.toronto.edu writes:
>
>
>What does the urdu/hindi word "pent" mean ? 
>As in the saying "Eik pent, do kaj"...of which the english equivalent would be
>"Killing two birds with one stone" 
>
>
>NadeemS
>
>


     I believe it is " ek PANTH do kaj ". The words panth and kaj come
 from sanskrit words PATH and KARYA. Panth or Path means way or road.
 Kaj or karya means action or work.

 raja 


>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mughal@juliet.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Subject: Call for Votes: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna       (fwd)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:31:00 GMT

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