HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Do Not Move
Keywords: Stay Where You Are, You Will Not Be Harmed
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:04:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <92092312349.AA01234@pleadies.com> kstaa@pleadies.com writes:
>
>This is the voice of Universal Control.  I am Kstaa', leader of
>the Pleadean Imperial Forces.  We are here to integrate your 
>society into ours.  Your meddling in other people's affairs will
>no longer be tolerated.  Our Star Destroyers are currently orbiting
>Gth'ik'woof, the planet you call "Venus".  We have decided to 
I know something *you* don't know. ;>
>to warn your people of our coming.  It is no secret that we are very 
>similar to these "Borgs".  This show has angered us, and we will not 
>tolerate your society any longer.  Therefore, your society will be 
>assimilated now, instead of later.
Commo Officer, Play the Robotech Soundtrack. Song: "We Will Win" on infinite
loop.
Now surrender or I'll launch the Yamato--er, Argo at you.
>Now is the time for total assimilation.
NOT!!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Kstaa'
>
>Pleadean Imperial Forces
Grand Admiral Jorgen Tacitus
Terran Navy
Fortress Abowaku
LotsofotherripoffsfromSF Department



<SIGH> I miss the good old days when it was just Desslok..... :>
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From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Dreams of encounters...
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:31:13 GMT
Reply-To: craigb@ot.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com


jtulli@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

> i can understand the fear that has been discussed...i have remembered two
> dreams involving aliens and i don't think i've EVER been as scared as in those
> dreams...
> anyone else have some information on this?

nsabados@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Nick Sabadosh) writes:

> ...I also had an odd dream, about a
> week ago.

[details omitted]

> Anyway, I was wide awake at this point, but experienced that kind of paralysis
> you get when you wake right from REM sleep.  I couldn't move, but my eyes were
> open.  Needless to say, this added to my uneasiness with the situation.
> 
> I tried to call to my wife, simply to ask her to roll me over so my leg would
> stop tingling...but all that came out was a muffled groan.  I tried a few more
> times, and eventually she heard me and shook me.  She said she thought I was
>talking in my sleep, and didn't know if it was good or bad and whether she 
> should wake me up.  The paralysis left me then, and my leg felt better.

These incidents sound like they might be manifestations of a 
common (and harmless) sleep disorder that is called (surprise!)
Sleep Paralysis (also known as "Night Terrors"). The intense 
feelings of fear experienced by jtulli are a common "byproduct"
of an attack (as are visual, audio, and/or tactile hallucinations).

I'm prone to Sleep Paralysis myself, and the experience Nick
describes of being unable to call out to his wife is familiar
to me (well, I wasn't trying to call _his_ wife, but you get
the idea :-).

Craig
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Subject: Re: Auras
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:38:13 GMT

In article <1aflk8INNj37@male.EBay.Sun.COM> kathieg@tinkerbell.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>RA,
>
>As a little girl, I saw auras, as an adult, I still see auras.  If this is a 
>figment of my imagination, then I must have a really good one.  
>
>Kathie G.  ;.)

Heck, Kathie, when I was a 'kid', I saw all sorts of colors, too.



On acid, that is.

'twas glorius to grow up in California!



kbq



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Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:7162 alt.paranormal:2346
From: stanley@verga.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: Re: Face on Mars An Other Time
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:02:12 GMT


In article <1992Oct2.223737.19848@prime.mdata.fi>, kauhunen@mits.mdata.fi (Kari Nenonen) writes...
>*>I'll go even farther... I'll bet that the proof turns out to be that
>*>there are *many* faces found.. not just one.. how's that for proof?
> 
>That's poor for proof. We are tended to see human faces in different
>formations; its in our psychologic construction. The first figure that a new
>born baby recognize is human face. If we adults see a figure that's not
>familiar, we start instictively look for human face in it - and in most
>cases we find it.
>--
>    * kauhunen@mits.mdata.fi  *  * Mr  Kari Nenonen *
>                  * Helsinki - Finland *

Well then.... how about if the faces are accompanied by extensive artifacts...
remains of vast cities and ancient crumbling transport systems.. :-)
From: swoodwar@zeus.calpoly.edu (Null Cypher)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Landslide for Kibo!  Spokesman for Earth Vote Final Results
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:14:13 GMT
Organization: Void-Tech Illumination Research, Inc.

mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew) had the unmitigated audacity to say:
>
>	kibo@world.std.com (bloody great... oh, pardon me, madam) writes:
>	...I could just go to a mountain and stand there and shout,
>	'Hey you guys!  I'm spokesman for this planet!  You can
>	probably see it from where you are, if you can hear me!
>	Hello?  Is anyone there?'
>
>... I think this is by far the best plan.  I recommend you do this,
>without delay, and wait there as long as is necessary.   I shall sleep
>the sleep of the saved, knowing that the great kibo is far away,
>indeed as far away as possible, on a mountain shouting at the stars.
>Congratulations!
>
>Charles

Actually I liked the random-phone-number plan better.

Let's take a vote.
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From: clc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (The Clone of Claudio Calvelli)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Vote - final results
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:50:17 GMT
Reply-To: clc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (The Clone of Claudio Calvelli)
Organization: The Alternative Universe

I should like to remind you all that the voting period HAS ENDED.

It would be, therefore, a good idea to stop sending votes, at least
until we start another vote for something else, or we decide to
repeat this one.

As of 0500 GMT Monday, 5 October 1992, the address Earth@ed.ac.uk
will be removed from this system. Mail sent to that address will
therefore bounce with an "Address unknown".

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From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: "Alternative 3": April Fool! (was: Bookstores and excellent books
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:44:37 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
	While we might not know what's in the payloads, there's really
	no way to hide a launch.  Not even from Vandenburg.  

... knowing that something is going up doesn't tell you what 
it is.  If you see a Titan-3 launch something, does that tell
you *anything* about what's inside?  The reason for classified
payloads is precisely so we won't know.   If we don't know, we're
allowed to guess (I looked it up.)

	Then there's the fact that there are tracking stations
	scattered all over the globe, not all of them belonging to the
	United States.

... yup, and seeing something on radar doesn't tell you anything about
what is is.

	Answering broadly?  What answers?

   Come now.  You replied.  We all saw it.  Don't be obtuse.

Charles
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: gvb@TEFS1.acd.com (Gregg Brown)
Subject: Re: What Do You Think?
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:55:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.153043.19177@engage.pko.dec.com> stanley@verga.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:
>
>In article <15532@suns9.crosfield.co.uk>, imt@crosfield.co.uk (ian taylor) writes...
>> 
>> 
>>>>So there it all is, the worst fears,even down to the collapse of civilization
>>>>as we know it.  What I'm wondering is, what do people think about this now?
>>>>WOULD the mass of people go completely ape if it was established that UFOs
>>>>and Visitors are real?  I can't quite make up my mind.  Let's have some
>>>>discussion on this and see what peoples's views are.
>>>> 
>>>I don't think people today would get very upset at all.  As a matter of fact,
>>>I think that a lot of people today are more or less expecting something like
>>>this ... waiting for it.  
>>> 
>>Personally, I don't think we'll ever see the secrecy lifted, unless the aliens
>>(if they exist) do it themselves, or there is a major change in super power
>>politics and policy, which is equally unlikely.
>> 
>>______________________________________________________________________________
>>| Ian Taylor (x4097)	|			     | imt@cel.crosfield.uk   |
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>If the aliens decide to do it themselves, Ian (and I am of the opinion that
>they've already made that decision), then we will quickly see a major change
>in super politics policy.  Super politics policy adapts quickly... they are
>very pragmatic. :-)
>
>

This is also true. They will resist until the last moment, claiming the
change is terribibel (a term stolen from Winnie the Pooh's Tigger) and
horribibel. Then, once it happens, they will be right in ther claiming they
were a proponent all along, etc., etc. 

Gregg


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From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ley Lines
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 15:04:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Ruins Of The 30,000 Year Old City. Last Part.
  During this last part I will put down some information that R. send me in a 
personal letter. I hope I am not betraying a confidence in telling you about 
the letter, but didn't say for me not to devulge this information.
  I do not take the public into these tunnels as they are too dangerous, and 
besides there is plenty to see on the mountains.
  Most of the labyrinth of intact tunnels which are connected to the flooded 
valley called Mu are found under what is now known as the L.A. Civic Center. 
 They were discovered in the 30's by an engineer named Warren Shufelt while 
searching for oil and gold.  
  Unfortunately, official help from the Federal Government regarding 
information on the ruins of this once great subterranean city cannot be 
expected. They have incorporated many of the modern buildings substructures 
into the ancient underground facilites.  This has become a command center 
for the elite and is one of the many well kept secrets in L.A. County. It is 
a fascinating story and will be featured in the  next issure of UNICUS.  
  I take people on an all day expedition, usually on Sundays. Weekday tours 
can be scheduled in advance.  The total hike is about 5 miles, but we break 
it up into 3 or 4 rest periods. 
  This is me (John ) talking now. That's the whole story so help me Hanna.
The End.
From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Vallee's Revelations
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:27:01 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - <ParaNet(sm) , Arvada CO


 > Having read the last 4 or 5 of Vallee's books, I would tend to agree
 > that
 > he holds unorthodox theories and is *highly* opinionated. The idea that
 > he
 > might be wrong just goes with the territory.

His theories are as unorthodox as the phenomena, which is what is needed to 
acquire some ability to understand some of what may be going on.  I find this 
type of approach much more refreshing than the standard "aliens coming to 
earth" stuff that we hear so much about.  If this were the case, where is the 
proof?  Surely, after all of these years, we would have some confirmation of 
this.  Quite the contrary.  The same holds true of the abduction phenomenon. 
Are "they" really building genetic samples, etc?  I would say not.  There are 
too many inconsistencies in the abduction scenarios.  A simple explanation is 
not even near forthcoming since this represents a very complicated set of 
circumstances.  What I find the most interesting thing about Vallee is that he 
is a scientist who is challenging his colleagues to think in the unorthodox 
fashion.  All we have to do is to look around us and we can see that science 
has failed miserably at this whole thing.

Mike

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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Cooper, English, Lear
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:36:02 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - <ParaNet(sm) , Arvada CO


 > Where can I get the Bill English file and the John Lear file?

ParaNet, where they first appeared.  There is quite a story to this, but I 
will see about posting them here.  The only problem is that they have been 
seriously discreited and would only serve to consume huge amounts of 
bandwidth.

Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: October 28th.
Keywords: The end.
Reply-To: timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:00:57 GMT


In article <1992Oct1.032650.101@bilver.uucp>, dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:


|>Well, Stevie boy, listen up..
|>
|>According to a good friend who is DEEP on the inside of the "gummint"
|>the CIA is VERY interested in increased military desertions going on
|>right now in South Korea. The reason? Why it's because there's a bunch
|>of these religious fanatics who are claiming that Christ/rapture will
|>return/happen (take your pick) on or about Oct 28th.
|>
|>Now ain't that the damndest thing you ever heard? :-)

	NO it's not the damndest thing I ever heard.  Stupid maybe.
|>
|>Don

	Well Donnie boy,  listen up yourself...

	Yah! right! And on the 29th of October I'm going to go: PPPHHHTTT!!!!

	RELIGION! Just say NO!

	Steve Food_for_the_Grays/Reptoids
	
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: jcatesii@nyx.cs.du.edu (James Cates III)
Subject: Re: Face on Mars An Other Time
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: mars observer, citys or rocks, confirmation one way or the othe
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 10:38:11 GMT


Richard A. Schumacher wrote:
 
>You're on: my hundred dollars that the stupid "Face" is natural
>against your dollar that the "face" is artificial, with the
>proviso that WE mutually agree on the decision. No appeal to
>any third party: this will put your integrity and mine on
>public trial. What say you? (I must say that I don't expect
>the Mars Observer to return a high resolution image of the thing,
>because the high resolution camera can't really be aimed...)
 
    What if it's found to be artificial, but with a keen,
    holographic label on it proclaiming it to be constructed
    entirely of all-natural ingredients?
 
    How about I get the whole pot then?
 
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From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and the Bible.
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:49:32 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

titan@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Titanium Knight) writes:

>Interesting that people keep going back to the Bible on this subject.  In 
>the end times, there will be signs in the sky!  I believe UFOs are the 
>signs.

No, Coca Cola neon signs are what was being referred to. 

>Everybody keeps saying that these are the end times, and I am
>inclined to believe it (I'm a Christian too).  UFOs could be increased 
>spirtual activity as the angels (good and bad) get ready for the final
>battle.  Remember, there is a war going on in the spirtual realm!
>

We should ship 'em some arms. Where there's a war, there's a profit.
 
>[TK] - Titanium Knight

FoFP
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: milsom@ntb.ch (Paul Milsom)
Subject: Replies
Keywords: various
Reply-To: milsom@ntb.ch (Paul Milsom)
Organization: Neu-Technikum Buchs 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:36:08 GMT



Hello all, 

This group is so interesting, and there are so many people I'd like to write 
to, but I just haven't got the time. I've decided instead to put a group 
reply on the net. I've never seen this kind of thing before on the net, so am 
a little apprehensive...

DAMIEN SAWYER
I'm just beginning to wonder if I haven't been taken for a ride. If so, hats 
off to you, Damien.
	 Why would you otherwise call yourself Damien Sawyer *and* of Samien 
Dawyer?
Well, it worked, and I bought it. Good to get us going again.

SPRING HEEL JACK replies. Thank you all. I've had Email replies too. All 
kinds of information. Some of the people mentioned Mothman too. There may be 
a parallel. Some people seemed to think he was only fiction, but the main 
opinion was that police reports from London of 1837/38 confirm that there was 
a character who was chased by police, and at one time he jumped over mounted 
soldiers in order to escape. Metallic type of clothes under his long cloak, 
metal lamp strapped to his chest, from which he could direct a kind of gas 
which made people unconscious. Very unusual features.

JOHN WINSTON
I heard exactly the same story of Heaven from a Swiss lady, who was in a coma 
for some weeks. I personally don't think it's Heaven, maybe a higher plane..

DALE REDD
I'd be extremely surprised if this really were your first time on earth. Have 
you ever looked at books dealing with regression?

DEAN MADSEN
Thanks for the Blue Book Unknowns list.

COLLEEN ANDERSON
I find it best to ignore the immature nonsense. Showing your annoyance on the 
net may be just what they want, although it's understandable!

"MARY"
I had a good laugh at your reply to Andre's posting

RA  Free Radical
I actually understood what John meant with his "lighter consistency...lighter 
frequency". (It's also one of the possible explanations for ghosts.) And if 
it *is* New Age jargon, then at least other people understand it too, and 
it's not "just to sound neat".

ALIN-ANDREI CARSTEANU
It's often a good idea to vent your anger on Email in case someone is even 
better at sarcasm than you. (See reply to Colleen, above)

(RENS TROOST)
("English" is spelt with a capital letter)

CLAUDIO CAVELLI and RICK GORDON
Thanks for all the work

JOHN CORMAC DAVIS
THANKS for brightening up my Monday.

What will the rest of the week bring?         Cheers,    Paul.

Paul Milsom
milsom@ntb.ch
Neu-Technikum Buchs Switzerland
From: elite@igc.apc.org (Elite Enterprises)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: WEALTHY PERSON BUYS UFO STUFF
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:12:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296700008:000:122
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!elite    Oct  4 11:12:00 1992


I BUY UFO RELATED MERCHANDISE FOR CASH! ANYTHING AND ALL! CALL 312/604-4434!
WILL REIMBURSE YOU FOR CALL IF I BUY!
ROBERT
From: crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Repost Object Beyond Pluto
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:38:25 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

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From: spani@mprgate.mpr.ca (Leonard Spani)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Where is the driven Planetoid?
Date: 24 Sep 92 23:29:54 GMT
Followup-To: alt.alien.visitors
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada

Forwarded (without permission of the original author(s)) from sci.space:

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Article: 46898 of sci.space
Xref: mprgate.mpr.ca sci.astro:25399 sci.space:46898
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute
Date: Tuesday, 15 Sep 1992 15:21:46 EDT
From: <LABBEY@GTRI01.GATECH.EDU>
Newsgroups: sci.astro,sci.space
Subject: New Planet?

The following bulletin was posted last night on CompuServe's ASTROFORUM:



#: 110734 S14/News/Current Events
    14-Sep-92  18:07:11
Sb: #Object beyond Pluto
Fm: SKY  TELESCOPE 70007,2762
To: All

There is some REALLY BIG NEWS just now breaking in the astronomical world.  The
IAU Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams has just issued IAU Circular 5611
to report the discovery of a faint object that seems to be outside the orbit of
Pluto!  Brian Marsden has given it the preliminary designation of an asteroid:
1992 QB1. But its true nature will be the subject of intense observations in
the next few months.

Dan Green of the CBAT says they really don't want people to start calling this
thing "Planet X" or the 10th planet or anything like that.  It's just too soon
to say.  For example, he says it could turn out to be a huge comet coming in.
It is now so far away that if it is a comet on a very elongated orbit it may
take 30 years to reach perihelion.  Then it could well become the Comet of the
(21st) Century!!

The discovery was made by David Jewitt and Jane Luu using the University of
Hawaii's 2.2-meter telescope on Mauna Kea.  The first images were secured
August 30, but just as with the discovery of Pluto in 1930 the discovery was
kept "under wraps" for awhile to allow a better assessment.  The object appears
stellar and has a visual magnitude of 23.5

Jewitt and Luu note that the object is fairly red, suggesting a surface rich in
organics.  The current position is, for 0h UT on September 15, 1992:  0h 00.09
+0d 01'.7 (2000.0).  The only orbit solution Marsden has published so far is a
circular one, which puts the object at 41.2 a.u. from the Sun.  It is moving
retrograde at only 3" per hour.

Stay tuned!
                -- Roger Sinnott
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