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From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Bangkok Post Dec 17: Banharn says Praman supports him as leader
Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:52:45 +1100
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

 
CHART Thai Party secretary-general Banharn Silpa-archa said yesterday
that party leader Pramarn Adireksarn, apart from party members, also
supports him to lead the party in the future.
 
He said Pol Gen Pramarn's opinion is the same as that of party
advisory chairman ACM Somboon Rahong.
 
Mr Banharn, however, said he is satisfied with his present position.
When he will become party leader and who will replace him as
secretary-general is a matter that will be decided in the future, he
added.
 
Chart Pattana Party leader Chatichai Choonhavan, former Chart Thai
leader, said Mr Banharn is suitable to take the leadership because he
has been with the party for almost 19 years.
 
Meanwhile, a factional leader in the Chart Thai Party, Narong Wongwan,
suggested that his faction should deserve the secretary-general post
if a key Chart Thai member is appointed new leader.
 
Mr Narong who dissolved his own Samakkhi Tham Party to merge with
Chart Thai, however, assured that he would not contest the party
leadership in the next election.
 
He voiced support for Mr Banharn as the most suitable person to lead
Chart Thai, claiming the latter is capable and has guts.
From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Bangkok Post Dec 15: Top brass defends Defence budget
Date: 15 Dec 1992 17:43:41 +1100
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

 
DEFENCE Minister Vijit Sookmark yesterday defended the Armed 
Forces against criticism about their large budget and their secret 
fund for which there is no public accountability.
 
The minister argued that the military budget was not very big in 
comparison to the equipment that they must buy to do the job of 
defending the country.
 
He cited the high cost of warplanes, pointing out this was 
necessary in order to provide the Royal Thai Air Force with the 
capability of defending the sky against enemy aircraft.
 
Gen Vijit revealed that in the future there will also be a need to 
ask for a bigger budget to develop the Armed Forces and purchase 
high-technology equipment.
 
He insisted that the secret fund was not too big and cannot be 
revealed for security reasons. He said that the fund is requested 
only to the level where it is necessary.
 
Gen Vijit said that MPs realise the necessity of the fund and 
cited Chart Pattana Party leader Gen Chatichai Choonhavan as 
saying so in interviews with newspapers.
 
He said that he was not worried about Opposition criticism on the 
issue and was prepared to explain it to Parliament during the 
budget debate on Wednesday and Thursday.
 
Asked about the negative image of Thailand in the international 
community with regard to its apparent reluctance to enforce the 
United Nations' trade sanctions against the Khmer Rouge, the 
general said that the military was ready to look after the 
Thai-Cambodian border where the sanction is to be enforced and was 
coordinating with other concerned ministries to this end.
 
The minister declined to elaborate, citing the Prime Minister's 
call that officials refrain from commenting on the issue and let 
only the Foreign Minister speak so as to avoid confusion.
 
He said that the Thai Armed Forces, through the Supreme Command, 
was giving full cooperation to UNTAC to establish peace in 
Cambodia and was also seeing to the repatriation of Cambodian 
refugees, some 200,000 of whom have now gone home from refugee 
camps in Thailand.
 
Gen Vijit said Thailand had suffered for the past 13 years from 
the fighting in Cambodia and as a neighbour and a member of the 
UN, it has always provided assistance according to budgetary 
capability.
 
Thai soldiers have swept mines in Cambodia and spent 145 million 
baht to build a road from Klong Luek to Sisophon in Cambodia, he 
said.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: markaa@cs.cornell.edu (Mark D. Aagaard)
Subject: Re: More Thai Views on Prostitution
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:25:05 GMT

ms0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Michiyo Shinoda) writes:

>In article <15898@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, tstil@Auspex.COM (Tim Stilwell) writes:

>>In America, sexual education is *not* taught in public schools.  I only 
>>learned about it (officially) when I studied Health at the university.

>... but I had sex education in middle school and high school 

I too was educated in public school my whole life, and had a day or
two of sex education every year from 4th grade on through junior
high school. In high school we a week on sex ed as part of Health
during sophomore year. Parents had the right to request that their
children not attend these sessions, but I don't know of anyone whose
parents chose to use the option.

 -mark
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: tai@starbird.WPI.EDU (L. Taikitsadaporn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Chula's President's mailing address
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:47:43 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: starbird.wpi.edu

Thanks to all of you who provided me with both the email and postal mailing 
address for the President of Chula.

Have a happy holiday.

Sincerely,
Lisa Taikitsadaporn
From: d86patsc@odalix.ida.liu.se (Patrik Schlund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Study in Thailand?
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:49:05 GMT
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden


I managed to get my mail address wrong of course, its supposed to be:
e-mail d86patsc@und.ida.liu.se
From: charle@seas.gwu.edu (Charlvit C. Sanguanwongse)
Subject: test again
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:09:10 GMT
From: mptj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re:Govt may review logging policy 
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:08:52 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

>FOR the sake of the environment, the Government must review its
>policy on logging in neighbouring countries, Foreign Minister         
>Prasong Soonsiri said yesterday.  


Things like this are generally easier said than done. Let us hope ( and demand)
that these ideas be more than an attempt to make the world happy, and that
they will be felt in every forest.

	Abi
From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Bangkok Post Dec 12: PDP leader must be elected
Date: 12 Dec 1992 13:54:58 +1100
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au

 
ACTING Palang Dharma Party leader Suthep Attakorn confirmed 
yesterday the next PDP leader will have to be elected by its 
members.
 
His comment followed after de facto PDP leader Chamlong Srimuang 
approached ex-premier Anand Panyarachun to take over the PDP 
leadership.
 
Mr Suthep, also University Affairs Minister, said Mr Anand is a 
good person but whoever will be the next PDP leader must be 
elected by party members only.
 
The acting party leader said all party members have the right to 
approach any person for the party leadership but that person must 
be elected to get the post.
 
Besides Maj-Gen Chamlong, several other PDP members have also 
approached other persons for the post but they just did not make 
news, Mr Suthep said.
 
He did not comment why Maj-Gen Chamlong had not consulted other 
party members before he approached Mr Anand.
 
Meanwhile, the acting party leader said the appointment of the 
next PDP leader has nothing to do with the fact that the party 
made fewer MPs in Bangkok. In the March 22 general election, PDP 
had 32 Bangkok MPs, compared to only 23 in the September 13 
general election.
 
Mr Suthep said the decline in the number of MPs does not 
necessarily mean a decline of the party as a whole.
 
"Someday the people may like a party so much, someday the people 
may like them a little or not at all. It's just an ordinary thing 
for every party to face. It's got nothing to do with who will be 
the party leader," he said.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: Prostitution, child selling and Phra Wet Sandorn- a survey
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: soc
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:47:39 GMT

markaa@cs.cornell.edu (Mark D. Aagaard) writes:

>.............

>Was prostitution widespread in Thailand before the beginning of the
>US's and European countries' involvement in South East Asia? (I'm
>thinking primarily of the military involvement of the Vietnam War era).

I don't think VN War had triggered the widespread of this profession in
Thailand. However, the US defense Department had offered a program of
short (2-3 week) on leave for the GIs who engaged in the battle fields.
Thailand at the time was the closet spot for recreation for those young
men. Thai investors took this opportunity to build sex industry infra-
structure in the country, especially in the cities where the US bases 
were stationed. These infrastructures, after the War, have continued 
to served local Thai men as well as the internatinal tourists.  
Another place which was ignized by the demand of the GIs for sexual
release is Pataya. 

>What was the state of heroin dens before this time? 
>Also, did prostitution grow out of the heroin dens, or were the two
>completely separate enterprises?

IMO, prostitution in Thailand does not involved in great extent with drugs. 
In fact, drugs problem has been noticable lately-- many years after the
VN War. It's likely that these two enterprises in Thailand are operated
by two different branches of mafia. In the future, when drug problem is
more salient, their agents may merge together. These two problems require
common condition--corrupting police and Thailand seems to have such
condition ready!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: circuit@convex.csd.uwm.edu (circuit)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Why American Men like Thai Women
Date: 17 Dec 1992 06:15:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: circuit@convex.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: circuit@convex.csd.uwm.edu

From article <15956@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, by tstil@Auspex.COM (Tim Stilwell):
> 

> Some overgeneralization....deleted...


	Well a few reasons I like A PARTICULAR THAI woman....and I'm
an American Male... white none the less...


	Well before I met her or knew anything about her, I had very
little interest in Thailand, my main interests where Japanese and
German cultures. But when I got to know herI learned afew things about
her culture and became quite fascinated with it. 

	I  suppose I do find that Asian women are attractive but then
again I'm attracted to any woman..;-)... The reasons I like my Thai
friend so much is because of her personality, and the fact that she 
understands me and my obssesive hobby (computers and technology) She
herselfis a computer geek. Matter of fact that's the whole reason we
got to know each other was because of computers.. A mutual friend
introduced us as two computer geeks made for each other..But as I got
to know her I liked her more and more, but not for the stertypical
reasons that seem to go along with Asian women. Matter of fact, with
her it's more like she tells me what to do and where to get off at and
gives me the kick in the ass when I need it. She's probably the more
dominant one in our relationship... She has however stated that she is
not like most Thai women... Whatever that means... I don't know any
other Thai women and if I did s  ewould probably kill me... :-)


Anyways.... 
That's my 2 cents....worth...



C()










-- 
circuit@convex.csd.uwm.edu
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Can a vacationing prof use e-mail in BKK?
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:12:54 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Anybody know if a visiting academic from the U.S. -- one 
visiting on vacation, that is; not on appointment to a Thai 
university -- can get a temporary account at Thammasat Univ 
(or Chula) which would allow him to e-mail to the States? (The 
ideal would allow telnet remote access to my home account, I 
guess.) Thanks for any tips you can suggest!

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               -- Seamus Cooney, Graduate Director
		  Department of English
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@gw.wmich.edu
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From: Teerakiat.Kerdcharoen@uibk.ac.at (Teerakiat Kerdcharoen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Request for News about Soldiers attacked Police
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:45:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Dear Thais,
I would like someone, maybe Bangkok Post, to post some advanced news
about the results of investigations in regard to Thai stupid soldiers
attacked innocent police in Ranong.
I am afraid that the matters will be faded out soon. Thai people here
in Europe are waiting for the news. We are being bored with the 
Thai army. And will cut any activity to the army soon.
						sincerely,
						Teerakiat
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: Prostitution, possible approaches 
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion-NASA LeRC
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 04:14:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.011814.16548@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> 
mptj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.032943.1036@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>,
>fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon) writes: 
>> In article <Bz7s7t.KDs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> 
>> ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong) writes:
>>>................
>>>in area where prostitutes are concentrated which is know as EMPOWER 
>>>which focuses on the prostitutes to be able to learn how to protect 
>>.................
>> All P arrested should be put in a (very humane) re-education camp
>> for a year. The camp will, in a humane way, indoctrinate them with
>> proper mental culture and also teach them other professional skills
>> 
>
>This proposal is very dangerous, because it contains all the ingredients
>needed to deny all human rights from P's, despite measures of protection 
>that you think you can incorporate. Anything that involves ideologies like
>"re-education" or "indoctrination" has been widely tried in totalitarian
>countries with a high rate of success in destroying individuals. I think 
>...........

Like all other good communicators :>, I often intentionally used
negative words to provoke thought and debate. What if I change
're-education camp' to 'rehabilitation center' and 'indoctrination'
to 'group psycho-therapy'. Would that satisfy you? What in a name?
Thai women under whatever names will look as pretty :>

What I really mean is that insofar as compassion abound, all are
same, regardless of names, approaches, systems under which they operate.
Likewise, all are same without compassion. 

Let's all of us take a bodhisattva's (enlightened being) vow to
increase the level of compassion in our mind everyday so that we
can help make this world a better place to live. We shall work with
infinite patience and optimism toward the well beings of all
sentient beings, even if that means countless aeons of efforts.

I would like to take this opportunity to say goodbye to all netters.
From now on, I'll be a read-only member (due to a personal reason). 
I would also like to apologize to all those whom I have offended both
intentionally and unintentionally.

Have a happy new year (See! I can be optimistic too :-)

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The advent of modern medicine has rendered diseases ineffective as
a means to curb population growth. Religious conflicts will serve
humanity well for milleniums to come.   
-tawit
----------------------------------------------------------------------

(All the fortunes I quoted in the past without attribution are mine. If 
they happen to be similar to others', I give credit to those authors.)
From: akkamon@tlaeng.enet.dec.com ("Akkamon Srihiran, DSS Engineering/Thailand  16-Dec-1992 0744")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: SPORTs
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:46:20 GMT
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SOCCER : 
------
  Mor Vor Kor Cup

  ... Dec 13
     Royal Thai Navy          2         Krung Thai Bank          1
       Somsak Aksorn          38          Chotivit Vongkittichavalit  89
       Boonpop Prapruet       88
     Rajpracha                3         Nakhon Nayok             0
       Pichet Piasai           5
       Prachak Viengsong      44
       Yuthana Polsak         80

  ... Dec 14
     TOT                      1         Sinthana                 0
       Pongsatorn Tiebtong    55
     Royal Thai Army          0         Port Authority           0

SNOOKER :
-------
  World Matchplay Championship (Doncaster) ---- Dec 12

     Wattana Pu-Ob-Orm (Tong+ Sitchoi) had beaten a glorious hero of the
sport, the man who brought back snooker to the Kingdom in the 1980s,
six-times world champion, Steve Davis 9-4 in the final of the World
Matchplay Championship in Doncaster.
     The 22-year-old who claimed the most prestigious title of his 4-year
professional snooker career, collected a first prize of 2.70 million baht.
     FINAL RESULT : Wattana Pu-Ob-Orm (Thailand) beat Steve Davis (England)
9-4 (Frame Scores: 84-42, 80-32, 0-86, 71-38, 78-28, 74-44, 108-0, 45-76,
0-96, 48-63, 78-44, 96-8, 97-0)

Sepak Takraw :
------------
  King's Cup

     Thailand A captured the title after beating Thailand B in the 9th
King's Cup Sepak Takraw tournament yesterday at Khon Kaen Municipal
Gymnasium. In the semifinal matches, Thailand A defeat arch-rivals Malaysia
3-0 in a 4-hour encounter and Thailand B past Singapore 3-0 in 2 hours 20
minutes.
From: d86patsc@odalix.ida.liu.se (Patrik Schlund)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Study in Thailand?
Date: 12 Dec 92 10:58:27 GMT
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden


I am a senior student studying Computer Science and Engineering at the 
Linkoping Institute of Technology in Sweden. I am examining the possibility 
to study some courses related to my field at a Thai Institute of Technology or
University.
 
Is there someone who knows if a foreign students are accepted, if any courses 
are held in english, education quality, forms of examination, fees, where to 
apply, etc.
 
I would greatly appreciate any reply regarding this matter.
 
e-mail d86patsc@.und.ida.liu.se
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: anuchit@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Anuchit Anuchitanukul)
Subject: Re: Bangkok Post Dec 15: Top brass warns foul-mouth politicians
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:54:18 GMT

In article <9212141626.AA01871@ipied.tu.ac.th> kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak) writes:
> 
>"I feel that the military has been trampled on. We will tolerate 
>it to a certain extent only," Gen Salya said.

... and then, what are they going to do when they can't tolerate?  
Another coup de tat?  Another NPKC?  

Thai people will have a better life if all these people keep their mouths
shut and concentrate on how to improve the country. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: King asked to help Sulak (fwd Dec 12 Bkk Post)
Keywords: Thailand
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:47:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bz7LFn.I3B
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


I don't know what have happened to the tranmission of the news from
Bangkok Post. Among seven pieces of news I have received by Khun
Kamol, only one appeared on the s.c.t. After having waited for some time
to see if they will show up, I have decided to forward them myself. 

Samart

....................... News begins here


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From: Kamol Hengkietisak <kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th>
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To: post-thai@ipied.tu.ac.th
Subject: Bangkok Post Dec 12: King asked to help Sulak
Status: R

 
AMNESTY International has written to His Majesty the King 
expressing concern that social critic Sulak Sivaraksa will be 
arrested and jailed upon his return to Thailand on Monday.
 
The international human rights organisation said in a press 
release from London that it had sent the letter to the King last 
Tuesday. It called on the Thai Government to ensure that Professor 
Sulak is not arrested when he returns and is at all times safe 
from harm.
 
In September 1991, former army chief Gen Suchinda Kraprayoon filed 
defamation and lese majeste charges against Mr Sulak for remarks 
he allegedly made about the military and the monarchy during a 
talk at Thammasat University on August 22, 1991.
 
The discussion was held during a time of increasing opposition 
against the military junta under Gen Suchinda, which staged the 
February 23, 1991 coup d'etat against the Chatichai Choonhavan 
government.
 
Mr Sulak was reportedly in physical danger following his comments. 
When the arrest warrant was issued he went into hiding and fled 
the country to avoid being tried. He is returning to face the 
charges now that Thailand has returned to democratic rule.
 
Amnesty International said that if arrested on the charges, Prof 
Sulak would be a prisoner of conscience and the organisation would 
demand his immediate and unconditional release.
 
Amnesty said Mr Sulak's arrest for his remarks would be a 
violation of his rights to freedom of opinion and expression.
 
Amnesty urged that Mr Sulak be given a fair trial and found 
innocent if his remarks are judged to be true or to constitute 
fair comment made in good faith about matters subject to public 
criticism, as provided for under Thai law.
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