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From: ftjalim@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Jin Aye Lim)
Subject: BBC: NEW FANTASY STORY [SERIAL]
Originator: ftjalim@atlas.cs.upei.ca
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:52:51 GMT

Could someone enlighten me on the correct name of the new series that BBC is
broadcasting at around 00 30 GMT on Friday morning.  I caught the first
episode of it by chance [all because I was trying to tune in to "The Hitch
Hikers Guide To The Galaxy", - on the wrong day!].

It has sorcerers, and stuff of that nature, some fantasy type story.  I
think it was called "The Eye of Kedar"? or something or other, but I was
almost asleep then, it may have been the wrong name.  Also heard the name
Thompson mentioned (the writer/author of the story)?  I wonder whether it's
based on a book by the said author or was it specially written for BBC
broadcast.

Would appreciate someone's help on this.

Thanks in advance.

Jin
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us (Nick Sayer)
Subject: Who is stepping all over CHU?
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:16:47 GMT

I don't know about anyone else, but CHU is exceptionally
hard for me to hear out here in K6 land. It certainly doesn't
help that some SW broadcaster is stepping all over them on
7335 (the only frequency I can hear anything useful from
CHU). Does anyone know who this is? It seems to happen
at about 1200 UTC or so, but that varies. I'd sure like
to give 'em a piece of my mind!

Along the same lines, is it just me or is 14760 kHz
just about inaudible out here? If we Californians can't
hear it, it would seem unlikely that British Columbians
can hear it any better. Since I don't pay Canadian taxes,
I can't really complain about it, of course... Too bad
WWV isn't so easily decoded. I suppose Fort Collins
has never heard of the KISS rule.

-- 
Nick Sayer <mrapple@quack.sac.ca.us> | "Instantly Powdered Toast Man
N6QQQ @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA       | ASSESSES THE SITUATION!!"
37 19 49 N / 121 57 36 W             | 
+1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'   |   -- announcer
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:55:00 TSI
Reply-To:     Cahit AKIN <MKAKIN@TRITU.BITNET>
From:         Cahit AKIN <MKAKIN@TRITU.BITNET>
Subject:      GOOD FM RECEIVING

How can i receive FM transmissions in a good level?
What kind of receiver?
What kind of antenna?
I want to use a portable radio with a low-power speaker.
thanx for ur suggestions.

CBE
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Shack DX-342 Pocket Receiver
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:24:57 EDT
Organization: 

I stopped at the local RS store at lunchtime today,
and took the DX-342 receiver for a short test drive
in the parking lot. It's dial calibration stops at
7.4 and 12.05 MHz, but I'm pretty sure you can tune
to 7.435 and 12.095, for WWCR and BBC, respectively.

A pocket-sized SW superhet for US$70! Next payday
I'll buy one, and try it out at home at night. The
Shack has a 30-day return policy, so if I'm wrong
and it's a real dog, I can return it.

Note to SW beginners: This radio is more of a toy
than a receiver. I don't recommend analog dials to
anyone, and I'm sure this little guy has lots of
spurious responses. It's hard to jam 20 cubic
inches of filtering into a 9-cubic-inch box! I have
a stable of modern, digital radios at home; I'll
buy this one for the "neat factor."

Good listening.

Jim Kearman
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: Glenn Hauser's World of Radio and Let's Talk Radio
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 08:35:16 EDT

   World of Radio from WRNO on Sunday, Aug.30 dropped
"International Vacuum" from sources for WoR, so maybe
Glenn knows that LTR on Spacenet 3 Tr 21 6.2 Wideband
Audio has not been carrying him, and maybe they won't
evr again.  Pity.

gerry@bluemoon.rn whose home bbs has trouble getting the 
mail out sometimes, so it may go here instead.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Need help identifying LF station
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:32:10 GMT
Organization: GTE/SCSD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Looking for some help identifying the following CW beacon (well, it
appears to be some sort of beacon):

- Callsign:  VTX3
- Frequency: unknown (don't ask, it just is) but probably in LF region
- Location:  somewhere between south Florida and south Central
             America, most likely in Central America
- Station transmits following sequence in Morse Code:  

V V V  V V V  V V V  VTX3  VTX3  VTX3  long dash and then repeats

Any info or pointers would be appreciated.  I am most interested in
the frequency, but any info will be useful.

--
Dave Pascoe
E-mail: pascoe@rocky.gte.com     |   Amateur Radio:  KM3T
GTE/SCSD - Needham Heights, MA   |   (617) 455-5704
From: james.kelly@factory.com (James Kelly) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: SIGNALS
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: james.kelly@factory.com (James Kelly) 

In Message:

-> Message-ID: <1992Aug24.152550.26994@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>

Matt asks:

->    This Saturday (SUNDAY,GMT 0400-0430) 2100-2130 LT (Arizona) at
-> 7435 khz, I heard the program SIGNALS.  They mentioned they were
-> broadcasting from WWCR transmitting facilities in Tennesse.
->
->    The program had a lot of commentary about FCC rules: pro-Pirate
-> radio
-> stuff.  They even had a Pirate Radio update.  At 0430 GMT, the WWCR
-> people took over.
->
->    Anyway, I missed the address given.  The mysterious QRM that only
-> swells
-> up when important information is given (ie, address and schedules),
-> was in full force and I missed everything.
->
->    Does anyone else know about this program?  Or, the address?

Matt, There email address is: signals@portal.com

Drop 'em a note, I'm sure they would be more than happy to give you some
info on there program.

73's <jk>
 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: "David Coursey" <demoinfo@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Re: RIP 'London Calling'
Reply-To: david_coursey@infoworld.com
Organization: InfoWorld News/Dallas
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 06:37:52 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

Perhaps the Beeb would simply create a text file of the WS program 
schedule and post it onto the Internet for which everyone could get 
copies? (Yes, I realize not all SWBC listeners are on the net, but 
CompuServe, Internet, etc., would hit a resonable number and even Bob 
Grove could get a copy this way!)

David
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: df@VOA.GOV (Dan Ferguson)
Subject: Re: IRRS-Shortwave on 7,125KHZ heard in NA
Organization: Voice of America
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:35:16 GMT

In article <9208250656.AA03538@quickt2.it12.bull.it> Alfredo Cotroneo <A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT> writes:
>in re. to Gerard M. Foley's message (Aug. 24) in the SWL-L list:
>
>vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>The original claims that IRRS transmits on 7125kHz for
>North America.  Please observe that North America is
>in ITU Region 2, where this frequency os not allocated
>for broadcasting.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Pse note that 7,125 kHZ is allocated to broadacsting in Italy,
>and any broadcast FROM this country MUST from frequencies
>allocated for broadcasting in this region(s).
>IRRS-Shortwave antenna (omnidirectional) and power (10kW in A3A,
>30kW equivalent AM) are such that reception in NA may only considered
>marginal, being such 3-4UTC transmissions beamed to countries "outside
>Western Europe". As a final note: VOA in Bulgurian owns the same
>frequency (7,125kHz) in the Americas, presumably beaming to Bulgaria!
>
>With best 73s,
>
>Alfredo Cotroneo, 100020.1013@compuserve.com

VOA usage of 7125 kHz, as well as other frequencies in the 7100-7300 kHz
range, is from relay stations located outside Region 2, and directed
toward audience areas outside Region 2.  Specifically, use of 7125 kHz in
Bulgarian is from Woofferton (UK) toward Bulgaria.

Dan Ferguson
df@voa3.voa.gov



Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: markz@ssc.wa.com (Mark Zenier)
Subject: Re: location of antennas
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:00:16 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin) writes:
: Hmmmm.... someone else advised me NOT to put my antenna in the attic
: because there are thousands of nails in the roof holding the shingles
: on and surrounding the antenna.  It would shield the signal, he told me.

Only at some high UHF frequency where they are resonant.

But other things like the foil backing on insulation and metal
trim strips and gutters could get in the act.


Mark Zenier  markz@ssc.wa.com
From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Help receiving Israel on SW
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:41:36 EDT
Organization: 

;Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
;From: gd@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gideon Friedmann)
;Subject: Help with commercial short wave radio reception.
;Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
;Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 00:23:31 GMT
;Lines: 30
; 
;I am trying to get the the voice of Israel on my old (15 year old
;Radio Shack Realistic DX 66) SW radio, and I just barely managed to
;do it several times, but the reception was terrible.
;   I am looking for some advice as to what I need to do to be able
;to receive it.
;   Will a new digital radio help very much? Or do I need an excellent
;antena. (up to now, I just hooked up a long wire to the radio and
;hung it outside the appartment).
;   If the answer is that a good antena will probably do the trick,
;then do you know where I can get one, and what I should get?
;   At HAM-Radio outlet they wanted to sell me an "eavesdropper" antena
;for $80 . Do I really need to invest that kind of money in an antena?
;   With regards to the radio, I heard that most of the "commercial" 
;(ones offered to the general public rather than the ones that the 
;serious amateur buys), are not very good in terms of sensitivity and
;selectivity. Is that right? Specifically I have seen a sony ICF 2010.
;Is it also rather poor on the specs side? Do you know of something
;that is good on the reception side of things and not necessarily so
;strong on the glitz? Do I really need to invest hundreds of dollars 
;(or more) in a good receiver?
;   If you know how I could get a decent cheap SW radio, I'd appreciate
;it too.
;   Thanks for your time and help,
;                                    Gideon.
; 
;Gideon Friedmann
;wk (415) 725-2355
;hm (408) 395-3486
; 
;E-mail:  gd@fizzle.stanford.edu
; 
;
I ran a propagation-forecasting program called MiniProp, by
W6EL Software, and determined that best reception of Israel
in California would be:

UTC		Frequency Bands (MHz)
0200-0400	9.5 and 12
0330-0430	15 MHz
0430		17 MHz

The predicted signal levels weren't high. With the geomagnetic
disturbances we've been having lately, I'm not surprised you're
having difficulty hearing them. 

You'll have to determine if the station is transmitting to 
North American during those times. World Radio TV Handbook,
Passport to Worldband Radio, Monitoring Times and Popular
Communications contain station schedules.

A digital radio certainly makes it easy to determine if you're
on the right frequency. A good digital radio may be more 
sensitive than the one you're using, which may help some. I'd
avoid expensive wire antennas, and I'll let other readers
suggest their favorite receivers. 

Good luck.

Jim Kearman [jkearman@arrl.org]

Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: Re: ICF-7600
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 07:49:12 EDT

gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Andy Gardner) writes:

> In article <uyT1PB2w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. F
> >rdale@cstp.umkc.edu writes:
> >
> >> >   My local department store has Sony ICF7600 for $179. 
> >> 
> >> 	It usually gets pretty good marks in the Passport to World
> >> 	Band Radio.  Sony has generally put out really good radios,
> >> 	but have rested on their laurels while other companies have
> >> 	caught up and in some cases surpassed them.
> >> 
> >> >  buy for the money? I'm quite suspicious to Radio Shack
> >> >  products - so DX-xxx I have taken out of the consideration,
> >> 
> >> 	Most of the higher end Radio Shack line (DX-390, DX-440) are
> >> 	simply Sangean radios with the R.S. label on them, and maybe
> >> 	a few minor cosmetic differences.  For example, the Sangean
> >> 	ATS-803A had a tape recorder jack while the DX-440 didn't 
> >> 	(although it is easily added).
> >> 
> >> 	I use a DX-390 and am more than thrilled with it.  I got it
> >> 	while it was on sale a month or so ago for $210.  I also
> >> 	have a DX-440 which needs some work (my fault), and it
> >> 	provides good reception, too.
> >> 
> >
> >Good prices. My sw7600 was noisy on FM, but otherwise a good
> >set.
> >
> > This is from
> >     gerry@bluemoon.rn.com
> >who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
> 
> I believe that the SW7600 is no longer being manufactured by Sony in favour o
> the new SW-55
> 
> Andy Gardner       "Yeah, gidday mate"
> At home in Wellington, New Zealand...

Now that I read the original I realize I am probably wrong.
SW7600 is a digital set, an update of ICF7601D, 2002 and 2003.
The ICF7600 may be an analog radio, and the price is then not
very good and I have no experience with it.  Sony sure do fool
with the model numbers!

 This is from
     gerry@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Wrestling on shortwave
Summary: eeee
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:33:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Bradley University

For anybody in the Chicagoland are:

Do you know whether or not it is true that wrestling is broadcast over
shortwave radio when the matches are held at the Rosemont Horizon?
What frequency would this be on, or how could I find it?          

Thanks.

--
ventura@camelot.bradley.edu  

"I'm a 60 minute man, and I'm ALL night long! WOOOOOO!!!"
        - "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion"(tm)  Ric Flair
From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (rja@sun.com)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: "`spike of noise"
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:14:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs

In article <1992Aug26.154911.8452@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (ICOM IC-R70) writes:
>
>|    Pardon me, but does not "a continuous tone" in the middle of the
>|    channel you're trying to listen to classify as a "`spike' of noise"?
>
>Hmm, never thought of a "continuous tone" as a "`spike' of noise."

    Ahhhh, pardon me again.  I think I goof-ed.  I guess a
    continuous tone isn't a spike of noise, like, on an O-scope.
    Consider me better informed.
--
Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

		    Samuel Addams: Brewer, Patriot.
From: as_radfo@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (AS Radford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: RIP 'London Calling'
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:40:14 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


Alas, 'London Calling' is soon to be no more!

That's the bad news, for BBC World Service listeners.

However, the good news is that a replacement periodical is to begin
publication next month.  Called 'BBC Worldwide', it will have some 100
pages.  I quote:  'Centred on a full radio and TV guide, the new title
will provide a lively, well-written blend of in-depth previews and
special features, reflecting the many facets of the BBC world, from
news and current affairs to business and science, sport and comedy,
music and drama'.

BBC is recently becoming greatly involved in change for its own sake
(in my opinion - maybe I'm just ultra-conservative).  New magazines
published by the Beeb appear almost weekly - or at least it seems so -
and program schedules (domestic) seem to change just to annoy the
listeners.  I must say, though, that the magazines seen so far are of
high quality.  Let's hope that this is the case with 'BBC Worldwide'.
It'll probably make discovering the World Service schedules more
expensive, though!

I'm probably just bitching because my free educational subscription
will stop after the first issue!  Hopefully, the new mag. will be good
enough for me to take out a subscription.

Thought you'd like to know!








-- 
  Arthur Radford, Bristol Polytechnic    -------------------------------
  BRISTOL, BS16 1QY, UK                	      Esperanto parolata
  as_radfo@uk.ac.brispoly.csd            -------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Subject: Re: Amateur in need of Answers
Originator: cmgrawbu@c00033-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:42:56 GMT




99.9 % of the time you can only pick up decent stations at night. It will
be 100 % with a small radio. 

The BBC may go off the air at 12:00. Stations that are as big as the BBC
tend to broadcast to select regions. During one hour on one
frequency the broadcast may be to Africa and then to Europe another time.
Big stations like that get difficult to keep up with.

I have never seen an Irish station before. Ireland can be picked
up but it is the Glascow airport information. If your radio does
not have SSB mode forget it.


Anything eles, let me know.


Chris

cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu
 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: vspicer@ccu.umanitoba.ca
Subject: DX 390 query again
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:59:19 GMT

hi again. radio shack canada has put the DX-390 on sale for the month of
september, $239 canadian. i already own a sangean 803A mail ordered from
the christian science monitor, and i'm very pleased with it. is the DX-390
a "significant" improvement on the 803A, or is it mostly ergonomics and
appearance?

thanks in advance
	vic spicer

------
vic spicer, recent PERL convert/ data systems,instrument electronics and
software person with the Time of Flight Mass Spec. Lab
at the University of Manitoba Dept. of Physics
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Scanner shootout: PRO-43 vs. 200XLT
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:06:36 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) writes:
> 
> 		     SCANNER SHOOTOUT:
>         RADIO SHACK PRO-43 VS. UNIDEN/BEARCAT 200XLT
> 
> 		    by Bob Parnass, AJ9S
> |Criteria		       PRO-43		      200XLT		  |
> |_________________________|______________________|______________________|
> |scan speed (ch/sec)	    |  50 measured	   |  15		  |
> |intermodulation	    |  yes, noted on	   |  yes, noted on	  |
> |			    |  VHF-hi band.	   |  VHF-hi band	  |
> |			    |  more intermod	   |  less intermod	  |
> |_________________________|______________________|______________________|
> ==============================================================================
> Bob Parnass, AJ9S  -  AT&T Bell Labs  -  parnass@ihlpm.att.com - (708)979-5414
-- 

Bob,
  
  You indicated that the PRO-43's scan speed was 50ch/sec - 

  I believe that you are talking about the SEARCH speed not the SCAN speed.  I
think that the scan speed is appx. 25ch/sec.  (Though I could be wrong...)

  I've also noticed some 'heavy' pager interference between 460.475 - 460.600,
though it could be a 'local' occurence.

			- Brad Steinman
                          cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo
				
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Subject: Re: "`spike of noise"
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 17:42:13 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug26.154911.8452@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (ICOM IC-R70) writes:
>
>|    Pardon me, but does not "a continuous tone" in the middle of the
>|    channel you're trying to listen to classify as a "`spike' of noise"?

No, definitely not.

>
>Hmm, never thought of a "continuous tone" as a "`spike' of noise."
>
>I've always thought of electromagnetic "noise" as anything BUT a CW
>signal; a CW signal causing a hetrodyne I would consider "interference,"
>but "noise?"
>
>I don't know; what is the definition of "noise" as used a communications
>system, as compared to "interference?" What's the standard usage of
>these items in the telecommunications field?

Radio frequency "noise" is a broadband, non-coherent, random in frequency and
amplitude, electro-magnetic emission.  There are a wide variety of definitions
relating to the the probability of the "noise" being at a particular frequency
or amplitude at a specific point in time.  These go by names like "white",
"gaussian", "Rayleigh"...  Noise can be modulated, such is the case with
"ignition noise", "powerline noise", "commutator noise"...

The interference that is reduced by a "notch filter" is of the hetrodyne or
carrier type.  This interference is typically narrow band, coherent, and
fairly stable in amplitude.  It sounds like a tone to the listener.  The 
"notch filter" works by presenting a tunable very narrow band rejection
filter at the frequency of the interference signal.  This attenuates that
particular frequency, and lets all others pass.

>
>If "noise" is anything that interferes with a received signal, then
>I will revise my concept of what "noise" can be.

Your concept of what "noise" is seems just fine to me.

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
chuck@eng.umd.edu
From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (ICOM IC-R70)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: "`spike of noise"
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:49:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


|    Pardon me, but does not "a continuous tone" in the middle of the
|    channel you're trying to listen to classify as a "`spike' of noise"?

Hmm, never thought of a "continuous tone" as a "`spike' of noise."

I've always thought of electromagnetic "noise" as anything BUT a CW
signal; a CW signal causing a hetrodyne I would consider "interference,"
but "noise?"

I don't know; what is the definition of "noise" as used a communications
system, as compared to "interference?" What's the standard usage of
these items in the telecommunications field?

If "noise" is anything that interferes with a received signal, then
I will revise my concept of what "noise" can be.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: rko@news.cs.tut.fi (Risto Kotalampi)
Subject: Re: Anyone used Lowe HF225/150?
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:52:08 GMT

In article <6508@kielouta.fi> tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{) writes:
>
>Because of reasons unknown to me this new receiver was not introduced at
>EDXC-1992.  However, I believe this new Lowe is worth waiting, if it is as
>good as HF-225 in its price group.

New Lowe will be introduced later this year in some exhibition. When I
discussed with Lowe-people in EDXC 92, they told the new Lowe will
beat all existing communication receiver. A price approximation they
gave was 2000-3000$.

-rko
-- 
# Risto Kotalampi, rko@cs.tut.fi     #   
# Tampere University of Technology   #  
# Signal Processing Laboratory       #
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