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From: lrb@alex.ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Organization: Robarts Research Institute, London Canada.
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:25:49 GMT
Keywords: n

>Humph, you don't like bailing wire, fine.
>I mean, sure you might be some kind of pervert, but bailing wire is
>like one of the fundamental building blocks of nature.  Dirt, Stagnant
>Pond, Whiff of Oganic Decay, and Bailing Wire.  Yeish.
why do you mix up fundamental food groups with fundamental building blocks... :)

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From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: More TATTOO CITY ?s
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:48:55 GMT

In article <l7grmdINNb4t@male.EBay.Sun.COM> barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae) writes:

>I would advise against doing a walk-in... you are very likely
>to get a grumpy, harried, stressed tattooist this way. Saturday
>at Tattoo City is not a fun thing.


However, Friday is a walk-in day as well... They will make early
appointments for friday, but most of the day is walk-ins...


Sheesh... I knew I should have answered this question with a post
rather than with mail...


FWA
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From: joe@smena.russia.msk.su (Joe Ratcatcher)
Subject: Problem with good books for you
Reply-To: joe@smena.russia.msk.su
Organization: unknown
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 92 19:23:25 +0300

Hi netters!

Friend of mine (medical psychologyst and ex-policeman) has written two books:

1.About sex maniacs on material of 160 cases.
2."Criminalistic and psychologic significance of tattoos and slang."
Russian crime.

Due to political and economical reasons they cannot be published here in
Russia. So if anybody THERE is interested in these books, he'll be glad to
cooperate in publishing. He has English, German and Ivrit texts. they are
scientific books, but they are written in simlpe, understandable language.

I have data on the second book only:
350 pages with 120 pages of pictures.
About 1500 tattoos and about 3000 words of slang are described and decoded.

Best wishes,
                                            Ratcatcher


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From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Bodyprints
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:34:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <BrLMCt.8Ho@mishima.mn.org> tomg@mishima.mn.org (Thomas Greenwalt) writes:

>My real tattoo when it happens will definitely be a personal statement
>about me, and a part of me thats remained consistant since I can 
>remember.  I won't want something that in a couple years I would find
>trite or regret.  For me a permanent tattoo will need to show some 
>fundamental aspect of me.


This is something which people with no tattoos say.  It is even something
that people with one tattoo tend to say.  Then, when you enter the "I have
a lot of tattoos" you begin to realize that all your tattoos do not need
to be a personal statement, and that decorative tattoos and silly tattoos
have their place as well.

I am not belittling the statement, since many years ago I was saying the
same thing.  However, now that I have many tattoos, I realize that any
"personal statement" that you make will not be true in 5 years.  I still
get tattoos of images that are important to me, however, I realize that for
it to be important to me, it needs to be an image I enjoy, nothing more.


Jeff
-FWA
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From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: does ear cartilage pierce take stud or ring?
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:51:24 GMT
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu) writes:
: russw@cs.utexas.edu (Russ Williams) writes:
: 
: >If someone gets the middle of their ear edge pierced (i.e. halfway up)
: 
: I got mine at an ear-piercing place at a mall, so I had a starter stud.
: It didn't go through the cartilage, but the small strip of flesh on
: the edge.
: 
: A related question: will there be a problem switching to medium gauge
: rings? There's not really very much room.

When I got my upper-ear piercing I had it done at a jewelry shop on
the Haight with a gun, so it was a stud.  It took a long time to even
get close to healing.  I eventually (and painfully) took it out and
shoved a Gauntlet ring in there; after that it started to heal much,
much more quickly because it's so much easier to clean rings.  I
put in a 16-ga hoop, and haven't taken it out since (and don't plan to!).


  VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
             Mason Jones           Charnel House Productions
             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   dante!mason@hop.toad.com
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From: hsu@sp24.csrd.uiuc.edu (William Tsun-Yuk Hsu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: does ear cartilage pierce take stud or ring?
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:34:58 GMT
Organization: UIUC Center for Supercomputing Research and Development

mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:

>When I got my upper-ear piercing I had it done at a jewelry shop on
>the Haight with a gun, so it was a stud.  It took a long time to even
>get close to healing.

Yeah mine took quite a while to heal reasonably. And it's not even in
the cartilage.

>I put in a 16-ga hoop, and haven't taken it out since (and don't plan to!).

See, nobody carries 16 ga hoops in Chicago. All I can get are 14 ga hoops
(which are probably small enough, but I'm paranoid since I've had problems
with that pierce).

Bill
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:18:39 -0400 
From: "Alan S. Ferrency" <af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: tatt needles

Can someone describe tattoo needles to me?  I think I understand how the
multiple needles are arranged on liners and shaders, and I kind of have a
general idea of how big they are by seeing the size of a line one of them made.
But, how stiff are they?  How long are they?  Do the multiple needles actually
touch each other, or do they just get really close?  (comparisons can be made
to sewing needles or to beading needles, which are really fine and more
flexible).  They're not hollow, and they don't have holes or anything in them,
do they?
I've heard that for liners, the needles are arranged in a circle.  I assume
that means, on the perimeter of a circle, so a 3 needle liner would actually
have the needles in a triangle, and a 5 needle liner would have them in a
pentagonal shape.  Is that correct?

Curious...

-me
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From: bic@vlsi.ll.mit.edu (Bob Bicchieri)
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington MA
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:30:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.233239.24454@novell.com> chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler) writes:
>In article <2A6F39C2.23640@noiro.acs.uci.edu> dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>>lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lynn Evette Clarke) writes:
>>
>>>what exactly does 12 ga. mean?
>>
>>well just some example shoudl do the trick
>>
>>14 ga = 1.6 mm in diameter
>>12 ga = 2.1 mm
>>10 ga = 2.6 mm
>
>Is there more than one "standard"?  I have:
>
>15g = 1.8mm
>14g = 2.0
>
>These are how spokes (for bikes and presumably motorcycles) are
>measured -- I'm wondering if there's more than one method of
>measuring afoot.
>
     I thought the reciprocal of the gauge is the conversion to inches.
For example:
   10 gauge = 1/10 inch = .100 mils = 2.54 mm
   12 gauge = 1/12 inch = .083 mils = 2.1 mm
     
Or to get to mm, multiply reciprocal by 25.4 (mm/in).

thats how it is for electrical wire.
From: mbohl@uceng.UC.EDU (Michael Bohl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Advice Wanted!
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:16:06 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati

I have been condsidering getting an apadravya (sp?).  Is there anyone
inf R.A.B. who has one of these?   If so, what is the piercing like, pain
healing, bleeding, etc.  I currently have an ampallang and that was not
bad, it healed relatively quick.  Is the ampallang a problem and would I
need to remove it to have the piercing done?  I also want to get a PA in the
future (2 - 3 mos.), would this present any problems with that or should
I get it all done at one time?

Any suggestions or insight would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance!
						Mike

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From: dexter@news.mr.med.ge.com.UUCP (Donald Dexter 4-6489)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:19:26 GMT

From article <1992Jul24.205405.1035@athena.mit.edu>, by stigmata@athena.mit.edu (???):
> where could i find the FAQ list to this newsgroup?
> i am thinking about getting my nipple pierced and
> i wonder how that would react to me being active
> in competitive cycling.  any help and advice would
> be appreciated.
> 
> andy

i had been worried about the same thing.  it's not even a slight
problem.  i rode 2days after the pierce (bad weather, or i 
could have gone the next day.)  ocasionally, i can notice it
while riding, but only just.

i'm doing a century ride saturday and a 75mi ride sunday.  i'll
let y'all know if these distances bother it at all.

-don.
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From: cherokee@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lori Ludick)
Subject: Is there an FAQ for this group?
Reply-To: cherokee@b11.b11.ingr.com 
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:30:15 GMT





  I guess my subject says it all, if so where can I get it?


-me


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From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: tattoo vs. skinned knee
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:13:46 GMT

In article <gePLbXK00WB20J7kF0@andrew.cmu.edu> af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alan S.  
Ferrency) writes:
>Not including infections introduced by the tattooing process itself (ie
>anything on the needles, machine, ink, tattooer, etc), is a tattoo any more
>likely to become infected than something like a skinned knee?  It seems like
>they're both open wounds of a similar nature.  
yes, they are both wounds.  a couple of thing differ

firstly people care for them. most people with a 'skinned knee' really
do not do squat to it other than [possibly] a bandaid[1]. so the repeated
cleanings and inspections of the tattoo help you keep an eye on it and help
prevent infections.

secondly, before the tattoo is made, the relevant area is cleansed, and 
shaven [if needed]. The tattooist will be wearing gloves and the parlour
will be spotless.  -- most people do not take this sort of precaution when
skinning their knee. :)


if you care for your tattoo, the odds of infection are really, really low.
I had one go on me, but consider it a fluke.


--
Lance 
[1] some people are lucky enough to have elastoplast instead of bandaids.
    but not barb... :)
From: batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Karl Elvis MacRae - Ministry of Silly Walks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Russian Prison Tattoos
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:33:38 GMT
Organization: Tattooed Love Boys
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com

In article <nv72e10@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>
>In yesterday's Wall Street Journal there was an article
>talking about Russian prison tattoos.  The article was
>quite good... It was on the front page, too...


	Yes, but were the tattoos good? =B^)



		-Karl, tired of bad art photos of good tattoos....


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From: isto@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Esa Veli Pekka Isto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Question about penis piercing ...
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:47:17 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <hurd.711500005@sfu.ca> hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd) writes:
> Oh, ps, The guy who put in my PA was really adamant about putting the hole
>to one side or the other of the centre line on the underside.  Is this some
>major nerve path?

No, PA's made throught the centre line just are a lot more difficult to
heal.

Pekka
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: does ear cartilage pierce take stud or ring?
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:03:00 GMT
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames

"Mason" == Mason Jones <mason@dante.uucp> writes:
Mason> When I got my upper-ear piercing I had it done at a jewelry
Mason> shop on the Haight with a gun, so it was a stud.  It took a
Mason> long time to even get close to healing.  I eventually (and
Mason> painfully) took it out and shoved a Gauntlet ring in there;
Mason> after that it started to heal much, much more quickly because
Mason> it's so much easier to clean rings.  I put in a 16-ga hoop, and
Mason> haven't taken it out since (and don't plan to!).

I got my tragus pierced with a needle and a ring at gauntlet three
weeks ago, and it's already healed quite well.  Compare this to my
upper-ear done with piercing stud, which took weeks to stop gunking,
bleeding, and oozing.

--
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'91 CB750, DoD# 0378
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: FAQ
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 27 Jul 92 08:59:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> where could i find the FAQ list to this newsgroup?
-> i am thinking about getting my nipple pierced and

 Since this question appears every week or so, maybe a special mini-FAQ
would be appropriate?


* DoD #978 * That is I, that is Alex, and my three droogs...
                                                                                                                       
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: fhm@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Miles)
Subject: Re: Corbin and Tat City -- Schedual ahead?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:58:07 GMT

In article <158chkINNiuq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
>
>	Whats the wait generally like for a well known artist such as Corbin?
>(Yeah saw the post about him being on vacation)  In general how long does it
>take to get an appointment?
>
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I only had to wait 2 weeks for an appointment with Eddie Deutsche at the
same studio. I'd assume it'd be about the same for Freddie.
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From: milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff)
Subject: Eyebrow Advice
Reply-To: milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: rec
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:37:41

I'm thinking about going up to Gauntlet this weekend to get some new
holes in my head (nostril and eyebrow).  There's plenty of info about
nostrils in the pierce FAQ, but almost nothing about eyebrows.  Could
someone who has an eyebrow pierce please post some info (pros, cons,
problems, etc.)?

-milt

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From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:32:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

In article <2A6F39C2.23640@noiro.acs.uci.edu> dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lynn Evette Clarke) writes:
>
>>what exactly does 12 ga. mean?
>
>well just some example shoudl do the trick
>
>14 ga = 1.6 mm in diameter
>12 ga = 2.1 mm
>10 ga = 2.6 mm

Is there more than one "standard"?  I have:

15g = 1.8mm
14g = 2.0

These are how spokes (for bikes and presumably motorcycles) are
measured -- I'm wondering if there's more than one method of
measuring afoot.

>--
>I am, therefore I rave.		"If we were still going barefoot, the
> ,				 world would be a much softer place."
>dana watanabe 		email to: DWATANAB@UCI.EDU


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From: alewis@ds5000.coe.northeastern.edu (Drew Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Eyebrow Advice
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:00:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ds5000.ALEWIS.92Jul24190048
Distribution: rec
Organization: Northeastern University
In-reply-to: milt@esd.sgi.com's message of 21 Jul 92 15:37:41 GMT

I had my eyebrow done in December.
20ga ring, no bead.
I had absolutely no problems with it.  It seemed to be all healed in about
2 weeks.  6 weeks after I got it done I could take it out for an hour or
two at a time.
It looks neat, but unfortunately you get a lot of jugheads cum up to
you and say "dude! that musta hurt!"

Drew Lewis  alewis@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu / as149@cleveland.freenet.edu
          Warning: Government is hazardous to your health
     Save me from those who would pass laws to protect me from myself
"The right to take drugs, the right to an abortion, the right to suicide, the 
right for people to engage in private, consensual sexual activity, be it
commercial or not, these are all interconnected.  The loss of any one of
these rights diminishes the strength of the others, giving the govenment more
control over the bodies of those it governs -- control it should never have."
Organization: Doctoral student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:06:23 -0400 
From: David Frame <df1g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: need design sources


i want to get some work done around my ankle/lower calf.  something
along the lines of a celtic braid.  i know a few people have mentioned
source books for celtic art, could someone please provide that
information for me?  thanks,

dave
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Advice Wanted!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: all
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:32:54 GMT

mbohl@uceng.UC.EDU (Michael Bohl) writes:
>I have been condsidering getting an apadravya (sp?).  Is there anyone
         -----
>need to remove it to have the piercing done?  I also want to get a PA in the
>future (2 - 3 mos.), would this present any problems with that or should
>I get it all done at one time?

I don't have one, I thought you had to have a PA hole existing before they
could do one though.
-P.

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From: mdtaylor@wc.novell.com (Mark Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:06:59 GMT
Reply-To: mdtaylor@wc.novell.com
Organization: Novell, Inc.

Mark 'DT Double-Butted spokes in my alloy nipples' Chandler writes:
>In article <2A6F39C2.23640@noiro.acs.uci.edu> Dana Watanabe writes:
>>lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lynn Evette Clarke) writes:
>>
>>>what exactly does 12 ga. mean?
>>
>>well just some example shoudl do the trick
>>
>>14 ga = 1.6 mm
>>12 ga = 2.1 mm
>>10 ga = 2.6 mm

>Is there more than one "standard"?  I have:

>15g = 1.8mm
>14g = 2.0

>These are how spokes (for bikes and presumably motorcycles) are
>measured -- I'm wondering if there's more than one method of
>measuring afoot.


While someone might choose to wear bicycle spokes (or even shotgun
shells) in their piercings, many prefer some sort of jewelry.

Apparently, the "Brown & Sharpe" standard is used for jewelry.
According to my handy "Gauntlet Guide to Body Piercing Jewelry",
the following measurements apply:

20 ga = .032" = .813 mm
18 ga = .040" = 1.02 mm
16 ga = .051" = 1.29 mm
14 ga = .064" = 1.63 mm
12 ga = .081" = 2.05 mm
10 ga = .102" = 2.59 mm
 8 ga = .128" = 3.26 mm
 6 ga = .162" = 4.11 mm
 4 ga = .204" = 5.19 mm
 2 ga = .257" = 6.54 mm
 0 ga = .324" = 8.23 mm
00 ga = .364" = 9.25 mm

And afoot is still 12".


mdt
mdtaylor@wc.novell.com
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From: nemo@albany.edu
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:21:43 EDT

In article <hurd.711144168@sfu.ca>, hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd) writes:
>lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lynn Evette Clarke) writes:
>>what exactly does 12 ga. mean?
>>. . .
I was wainting for a precise answer to this question and it did not come, so
I ask it more precisely : here in france, wire is sell with a
diameter, or for electric wire with a surface measure, so can any good
soul tell me what is the correspondance between gauge an diamteter
(and please if you had this in milimeters !!!!). . .
 
OK, that's easy.  The U.S. standard wire guage is also called the B & S
(Browne & Sharp [!]) guage.  For common wire sizes it goes as follows:
 
                   B&S   dia(in)   dia(cm)
                    4     .2043     .5189
                    6     .1620     .4115
                    8     .1285     .3264
                   10     .1019     .2588
                   12     .0808     .2053
                   14     .0641     .1628
                   16     .0508     .1291
                   18     .0403     .1024
 
25 years ago they made coathangers out of 9-ga steel wire.  These days
the flimsy ones you get back from the drycleaner tend to be 12 ga.