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From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Who to Call When Your Child is Abducted
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:11:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)




Child Quest International, Inc. is a non-profit organization, devoted
to the protection and recovery of missing, abused, and exploited children.
Child Quest was founded in 1990 and is headquartered in San Jose, California
.  For more information, please call (408) 492-1122.  If you are searching
for your missing child, Child Quest would like to help!  





Child Quest recently interviewed law enforcement officers for an upcoming
newspaper article.  Here are some of the questions asked and the answers
given...

QUESTION:  Who do you call when you wake up one morning and find that
your child has been abducted by your spouse or ex-spouse?

Representatives  of the San Jose Police Department, the San Jose FBI, and
the Santa Clara County District Attorney's office, all agreed that the
first call you should make is 9-1-1 or your local police department if
9-1-1 is not available in your area.

QUESTION:  What should a parent do if they suspect that their spouse or
ex-spouse is planning to abduct their child/children?

A representative of the Santa Clara County District Attorney's office says,
"Start keeping a log of information.  List all of the phone calls you have
with the suspect parent including notes on what they say and where they go.
Keep a sheet with the names and addresses, birthdays, and phone numbers
of friends and relatives.  Make sure to keep current pictures of both the
child and the suspect parent.  And, be sure to lock up the child's birth
certificate and passport, if there is one.


<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   MORE INFO. TO COME !! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Child Quest International      
1190 Coleman Avenue, Suite 1D
San Jose, CA  95110
(408) 492-1192

24-sighting line:  1-800-248-8020

Keeping Hope Alive
Child Quest International
lindae@netcom.com
From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Child Quest International, July 23rd, 1992 Safety Tips
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:45:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)




Child Quest International is a non-profit organization, dedicated to the    
protection and recovery of missing, abused, and exploited children.
For more information on Child Quest, please call (408) 492-1122.  Or
e-mail your comments and suggestions to Linda at lindae@netcom.com


SAFETY TIPS:

For the Child...

1.  I know my three rules if I find myself in a dangerous situation

	1.  SAY NO!
	2.  RUN AWAY WHILE SCREAMING HELP!
	3.  TELL A TRUSTED ADULT

2.  If I am home alone and someone knocks on the door, I know to ask,
    "Who is it?" without unlocking or opening any door or window.  If
    it is not someone I am expecting, I know to say,  "My mom/dad is
    busy and can't come to the door right now."  I know to talk through 
    the door and ask the person to come back later.  If the person refuses
     to leave, I know to call the police.  I know to never let the person
    inside for any reason.

3.  I know that it is okay to hang up the telephone if I don't like what
    I hear, such as strange noises, scary talk or nothing at all.]

4.  I know that there are emergency numbers to call if I'm home alone and
    get scared, including how to telephone my parents and neighbors.


For More SAFETY TIPS, call Child Quest International at (408) 492-1122.
Newsgroups: alt.native
From: "Elizabeth B. Pollard" <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!asnuah.asn.net!UAHEBP01>
Subject: Re: Canadian support of Native Americans in US
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:49:00 GMT

Original-Sender: "Elizabeth B. Pollard" <asnuah.asn.net!UAHEBP01>

In her message of July 28, Viveka writes:

>I feel guilty when I read all the action which can be taken by
>Americans to support the Native American communities in the US.
>However, as a Canadian, what can I do to support them?

        There are Native American communities in your own country who
<<desperately>> need your support (e.g., the Lubicon Cree, the James Bay
Cree, the Mohawk, the Gitkisan and Wet'su'weten, the Innu, and the
Gwi'tchin). There has been no want of information on their problems on
NativeNet, but I cannot remember having seen any mention of the fact that
Euro-Canadians encouraged most of the Indians in Canada to emphasize a
nomadic lifestyle through the fur trade for nearly two centuries. Now
that the fur trade has declined, this lifestyle is seen as an encumbrance
to exploitation of natural resources <<and>> the enhancement of provincial
revenues. It must be admitted by your government that, until these natives
have <<viable>> alternatives to hunting and trapping which will allow them
to maintain their identity as distinct ethnic groups, it is a grave injustice
to force them to abandon this lifestyle and live on the dole. It is also an
injustice to Canadian taxpayers to expect them to foot the bill.
        I would suggest that you find some organization in Canada which not
only acts as an advocate for the First Nations, but seeks workable solutions
to their problems. Then become as active a participant as you have the time
and energy for. If you and other Canadians are successful in influencing the
Canadian government to significantly change its policy toward First Nations
and help them develop new economies instead of destroying existing ones, you
may give Native Americans in the U.S. the best support you can: by providing
possible examples of economic and cultural successes.

        Grosvenor Pollard, via Elizabeth Pollard

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 Elizabeth Pollard              Bitnet: uahebp01@uahvax1
 Systems Librarian              Internet: uahebp01@asnuah.asn.net
 Univ. of Ala./Huntsville       Compuserve: 72457,1560
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Xref: sparky alt.native:773 talk.environment:2973
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: alt.native,talk.environment
Subject: Re: ACTIVISM: Mt. Graham Action Alert!!
Date: 25 Jul 92 08:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <Environet.23Jul1992.5pm1@naughty-peahen.org> jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Environet via Jym Dyer) writes:
>[From Environet]
>
>=> From: DENISE JOINES
>=> Subj: MT GRAHAM ACTION ALERT!!
>
>         **************    ACTION ALERT!!  *************
>
>               LEGISLATION ON THE HORIZON TO PROTECT
>                   MT. GRAHAM  -- IF YOU ACT NOW!
>
>Friends of Mt. Graham and the San Carlos Tribal Council have
>been active in Washington, DC asking members of Congress to help
>halt the telescope project and to protect our mountain.  The
>Reasons for doing so are myriad.  As a biological sky-island Mt.
>Graham is unparalleled.  As the birthplace of San Carlos Apache
>heritage, culture and religion, Dzil nchaa si an (Mt. Graham)
>is most important.  As a chance to reverse important breeches
>in our environmental and cultural protection laws, the fight
>to protect Mt. Graham is crucial.  What was undone in the
>University of Arizona's attempt to erect a Tower Of Babel on
>Mt. Graham, must be corrected.             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Or, if you consider the enormous scientific value of this unique
international observatory project, that has minimal environmental
impact on a 23 acre portion of Mt. Graham, is worth fighting for,
then call your representative and voice your support for the project.
Otherwise the hysterical quasi-religious ravings of a few fanatics
will destroy this valuable bit of scientific progress.

Gary
Newsgroups: alt.native
From: Micki Korp <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!acadvm1.uottawa.ca!MKORP>
Subject: Re: cultural appropriation
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:09:08 GMT

Original-Sender: Micki Korp <acadvm1.uottawa.ca!MKORP>

Viveka, you've thrown out a good question.  Is it possible
that your prof was taking on the role of "devil's advocate"
in pressing you so closely to identify your motivation..?

I sometimes press my own students very hard (because that
is the way I was taught), but I try not to send them away
angry.   The question of appropriation is one of misappropri-
ation:  whose story is it anyway?

Your example is a well-chosen one:  imitation, in-the-manner-of,
sorta,"Indian"crafts and souvenirs.  As you are a collector, you
know the difference between original and fake.  The interests
you may properly protect are these I think:  the value of what
you've learned in order to appreciate what you've purchased (all
that hard work should not be for naught); and the value of your
purchases themselves (the plastic carving is plastic, not argillite
and it matters).   Now those interests--however selfish they seem--
are really yours to protect (no one else will do it for you).

The interest which is not yours to protect is that of "cultural
integrity" unless you are invited to provide support--eg, a boycott.
There's just no way I know of to take on the role of acting-
on-behalf-of without slipping into a patronizing stance, however
kindly meant.   That's fine when it's a parent acting on behalf
of a child; but it's not fine when it's one adult speaking on
behalf of another adult, or another culture.  Best to stay clear.
Teach others the difference between plastic and argillite.

Related to your question is one of artistic integrity:  should
artists be restricted in their choice of theme, motif, etc?
My answer is no, flatly no.  Copyist work is always second-rate
stuff.  My eye tells me that and yours does too.

Last term I asked my students for one of their short papers to
take a work of art (movie, book, poem, etc) and CRITICALLY
analyze it, then answer the question:  "whose story is it
anyway?"  The day the papers were due, was the same day Wilfrid
Peltier--Odawa elder, native activist, and renown storyteller
and author--came to class to tell stories.  One of the students
asked him:  "Whose story is it anyway?"  His reply?  "It's
the storyteller's story."
I like his answer very much.  Think about it.
      best wishes,
           Maureen Korp
           University of Ottawa

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: Peshewegunzh <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia!peshe>
Subject: Ecosystem Protection and Aboriginal Rights
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:38:50 GMT

Original-Sender: Peshewegunzh <mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia!peshe>

Alan McGowen <hpindbu.cup.hp.com!alanm> opined:

> Elsewhere in the world protection of indigenous people's rights is
> increasingly recognized as a key element of ecosystem protection.

I think this is rather used as a proxy for the real itinerary
of factions within non-indigenous populations, just as the
spotted owl example given. And as far as these non-indigenous
factions are concerned, their mentality is often as alien to the
consciousness of those indigenous societies they are hanging their
ideological hats on as it is to the consciousness of a real red squirrel.
It's often facile to claim to speak for those who can't when they are
dumb animals, but downright disingenuous to put words in the mouths
of those who can, but won't be allowed to, and thus are treated just as if
they were only exotic beasts.

I don't see anything to suggest that other than power politics exists
beneath such a facade. By the above, indigenous rights are important not
for any intrinsic concept of human rights, but only because or where they
support European concepts of "ecosystem protection." That means should they
be seen to conflict with ideology, they will be sacrificed to that ideology.
And thus far, sure enough, when that conflict has arisen, Europeans have not
been able to restrain themselves from making those decisions as against
indigenous choice.

Human rights are not of equal status to animal rights, nor should
they be sacrificed to them. European ideologies of recent vintage have been
all too willing to do away with human rights in the name of varying
naturalistic imperative ideologies - the cruelties of Darwinian Marxist and
capitalistic materialist societies come to mind, as well as the pantheist
pagan self-destruction of Nazism. Current ecological movements, borrowing
heavily from the same European intellectual genealogy, make most of the same
unwarranted assumptions about the nature of reality. Such misunderstandings
can cause human tragedies exceeding those of their parents, without improving,
ironically, the level of care and stewardship of this global garden.

Trying to make human rights inferior to "ecosystem protection" with all the
attendant facets of coercive totalitarianism that must be attached to such
attempts will have the same disastrous results that trying to make any
supposed future "good end" justify present doubtful means has always had.

As Indians we have had a great deal of experience at the hands of those who
insisted they were advanced and enlightened. I see no reason why we should
believe that this time, the children have achieved the infallible status
denied to their parents.

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Peshewegunzh

peshe%mamia.UUCP@mthvax.cs.miami.edu
mthvax.cs.miami.edu!mamia.UUCP!peshe
peshe@mamia.UUCP
mthvax!mamia!peshe

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: crawford@cs.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: cultural appropriation
Organization: University of Chicago  AI Lab
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:10:01 GMT

In article <01GMRQHT1JM88ZG75V@UBVMS.BITNET>
beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu!V187EF4Y writes:
>Original-Sender: ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu!V187EF4Y (Patrick Crowe)
>
>Viveka-
>I know you asked for direct replies, but this deserves to be brought to
>everyone's attention.  The professor probably thinks that bringing native
>art forms into the public eye is not detrimental to the native culture, even
>if it is not _authentic_.   The difference of opinion, I would guess, involves
>what constitutes harm to the native community.  Consider the appeal of rap in
>the US.  If the use of 'Western' styles by others is a result of cultural
>imperialism, why is the use of 'non-Western' styles by 'Westerners' also
>cultural imperialism by 'Westerners'?
>	What does your teacher say constitutes harm?  S/He ought to have told
>you so that you would understand why your claim doesn't make the grade.  For
>myself, I'd have to say that cultural harm is to be measured by the rules of
>the culture in question.
>	Hope that helps!
>-Pat
>
>

I think many of you are missing something here... Someone asked a related
question: "Whose story is it anyway?"  One might as well ask "Whose culture is
it anyway?"  With respect to the appropriation of art-forms, you say: "The
difference of opinion, I would guess, involves what constitutes harm to the
native community."  Of course, we are all aware that the political, financial
and, yes, genocidal harm has already been done!  So, what becomes of whatever
fragments of cultural forms remain?  The question now is not so much one of
"authenticity," rather it is about life and self-determination.

I myself don't particularly believe in Marxist/materialist notions of culture,
but surely there is something "true-to-life" about forms that arise
spontaneously from a rich and vibrant culture (along *every* dimension:
economic, philosophical, artistic etc.). Unfortunately, if and when a culture
comes under seige, then it automatically becomes "up for grabs".  (Witness the
explosion of so-called "missionary" and "anthropological" work on the African
continent after ca. 1884).  One of the main catastrophes is of course: who now
controls who portrays (re-defines?) the culture, and the sheer volume of the
portrayals themselves (via film, story-telling, etc.).

In terms of "rap" music here in the U.S.A., there is a difference between using
an art-form and controlling it. (Remeber how Elvis became the "King of Rock and
Roll?").  Anyway, do you honestly think that, say, a Briton could/should have
told the epic tales of West Africa instead of the griots themselves?  There are
so many cases throughout history where conquest and lack of understanding led
to actual or partial cultural annihilation... much of Europe itself suffered
under the Ottoman yoke for centuries. We should not naively assume the roles of
storytellers without understanding what the story is!

Just my 2 cents,

Paul

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: xxbc10@ucrmath.ucr.edu (joannie humphreys)
Newsgroups: alt.native
Subject: uh...I'm not sure how to title this.
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:53:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Riverside


Newsgroups: alt.native
From: Maureen Korp <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!acadvm1.uottawa.ca!MKORP>
Subject: Re: hiya
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:34:57 GMT

Original-Sender: Maureen Korp <acadvm1.uottawa.ca!MKORP>

Hello again, Viveka.  You ask whether it's useful to write to
American legislators as a Canadian?  Write to whomever you want.
You cannot threaten to withdraw your vote in the next U.S. election
since you haven't one, but you are entitled to speak your mind as
freedom of speech has a cherished history on both sides of the border.
So, exercise that human right!  Borders are but legal fabrications anyway.
In fact, you may wish to direct your energies towards writing letters
for Amnesty International.  Leonard Peltier is still on their lists.
(How's your paper on appropriation/misappropriation going?)
Best wishes,
Maureen

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!um.cc.umich.edu!Tristine.Lee.Smart
Subject: Cultural appropriation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:11:58 GMT

Original-Sender: um.cc.umich.edu!Tristine.Lee.Smart

Here is a news article dealing with Marvel Comics' use of Hopi
kachina figures, which was published in The Native American
Press, June 12, 1992, p.2:

     Kykotsmovi- Hopi Indian ceremonial dances have attracted
     many visitors to the mesas of northeastern Arizona for
     decades, but a tribe spokesman said many may now be
     off-limits to non-Indians.
       The tribe will allow leaders of each of its 12 villages
     to decide for the hamlet whether non-Indians can view a
     ceremonial dance.  The exact number of ceremonials being
     closed is hard to estimate.
       "In some cases, like the villages of First Mesa, they've
     closed everything except for a few social dances," said
     Leigh Jenkins, director of cultural preservation for the
     tribe.  "In some of the other villages, I understand they
     are going on a dance-by-dance basis."
       The closures were prompted by repeated abuses of Hopi
     culture, including unauthorized research into Hopi
     religious practices, illegal filming of ceremonial dances
     and a comic book that depicted sacred Hopi kachina figures
     as violent marauders, Tribal spokespersons said.
       "The problem is that Hopis have become victims of their
     own hospitality," said Leigh Jenkins, director of cultural
     preservation for the tribe.  "...Closing these ceremonial
     dances is a tough situation because, on one hand, our
     philosophy says we welcome everyone because that is the
     Hopi way."
       Most Hopi villages conduct two or more major dances
     during the summer months.  Village leaders began banning
     non-Indians from dances three months ago, and say the
     policy could be indefinite, Jenkins said.
       One of the more disturbing factors contributing to the
     optional ban was the publication of a comic book considered
     offensive to members of the tribe, Jenkins said,
       The March issue of Marvel Comics' "NFL Superpro" comic
     book depicted sacred Hopi kachina figures using weapons and
     physical violence in an attempt to kidnap a fictitious Hopi
     ice-skating star who rejected traditional ways.
       Hopi officials said it was false and blasphemous and a
     Marvel spokeswoman subsequently apologized for the comic book.
       "This comic created a real adverse reaction and caused the
     situation to blow up," Jenkins said.


Tristine Lee Smart
Museum of Anthropology
University of Michigan

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: ACTIVISM: Mt. Graham Action Alert!!
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:29:10 GMT

In <9207282002.AA14949@anchor.esd.sgi.com> anchor.esd.sgi.com!lyn
	(Lyn Dearborn) writes:

> Interesting dispute going on here without a lot of research on the part of
> Mr. Coffman, and an informed irritated response on Gary Trujillos part which I
> KNOW was carefully thought out, but comes across as terse and unfeeling,
> which I KNOW isn't true.

I'm afraid I'm really at a loss here.  What irritated response are you talking
about, Lyn?  I don't recall responding to anything Gary Coffman said.  I'd
appreciate it if you could include the quote in referring to it.  Thanks.

Gary
--
    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
Newsgroups: alt.native
From: beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!icarus.ssd.loral.com!lakota!brunner (Brian Brunner)
Subject: Re: roots
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:06:38 GMT

Original-Sender: icarus.ssd.loral.com!lakota!brunner (Brian Brunner)

Dear Joannie (Iisawhoya)

My mother was told by her father that his grandfather was married to
a blackfoot woman, or that he was the son of a blackfoot woman and a
Canadian trapper, who knows which anymore.
But I identify with a people (actually two, but not to cloud an issue)
and strive to act as though I was a contributor to that people.
I have a co-worker who knows his great-grandfather, a full-blood
trail-of-tears Cherokee, but this all means nothing to him. He
identifies himself only as a U.S. American. What is an Indian?

The U.S. Government says if you're 1/16 blood, you're an indian for
purposes of entitlement, you are (if your g-g-grandmother is the ONLY
native blood source) 1/32 hopi. Does this mean you're NOT an indian?
I find similar thoughts pondering the question "Who's a Christian"
and would rather look at who is doing the work of mending peoples
and nations than who goes where on Sundays to determine these things.

Clearly you have seen that what OTHERS see you to be influences what
you are able to do, or how difficult anything in particular would
be to accomplish, but very little is impossible to dedicated people.
Getting admitted into cultural and religious circles may be a matter
time and labors faithfully done.

We of the native net welcome you to listen and contribute,
and we wish you success in your endevours.

--

Columbus didn't even `discover' that he got lost by 8,000 miles!
brunner@lakota.ssd.loral.com; Space Systems/Loral; Palo Alto, Calif.

Newsgroups: alt.native
From: viveka von rosen u <beaver.cs.washington.edu!gnosys!mach1.wlu.ca!vvonros3>
Subject: hiya
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:44:45 GMT

Original-Sender: viveka von rosen u <mach1.wlu.ca!vvonros3>

I feel guilty when I read all the action which can be taken by Americans
to support the Native American communities in the US.  However, as a
Canadian, what can I do to support them?  Most of the marches, sit-ins,
rallys etc are too far away from me to be financially feasible (at this
point in time... I will graduate some day!)  Is writing
to an American legislator feasible, being that I am Canadian?  It
frusterating to want to help, but to be stymied by the American-
Canadian boundary?  Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks
viveka

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