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From: csjjlay@knuth.mtsu.edu (JJ Lay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple,junk,tn.general,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Apple IIGS dream system for sale
Date: 9 Jan 1993 16:41:15 -0600
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Middle Tenn State Univ, Murfreesboro, TN
NNTP-Posting-Host: knuth.mtsu.edu

I have posted the following message for a friend; please send requests
for information to him.

                ****  F O R   S A L E  *****

Apple IIGS Deluxe System::

    FIVE MEGS RAM
       1 Meg on-board
       4 Megs on ramcard (Mfr. by CV-Tech)
    SCSI HARD DRIVE
       20 Meg external drive
       Apple II high-speed SCSI card
       SCSI cable and terminator
    FOUR FLOPPIES
       (2) "Apple 3.5" drives (these drives can read
       800K Mac disks under GSOS 6.0, and they can
       also be directly connected to a Macintosh)
       (2) "Apple Unidisk 5.25" drives
    APPLE RGB Color Monitor
    Apple Imagewriter II Color Printer
    Thunderscan Graphics Scanner (Mfr. by Thunderware)
    EPIC Classic 2400 baud internal Modem
    (2) Super Serial interface cards
    GS Parallel interface card
    Detatched 81-key Apple IIGS Keyboard
    Apple Mouse
    Apple Joystick
    Cables
       Printer port to Imagewriter II
       Modem port to RS-232 male
       RS-232 to Imagewriter II
       RS-232 male to RS-232 male
    SOFTWARE
       GSOS System Software 6.0
       AppleWorks 2.0 (original disks, manuals, box)
       Talk is Cheap (TIC), Modemworks, Kermit
       Print Shop graphics
       Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?
       California Games
       LOTS of shareware/freeware stuff
       (5 disk cases, about 300 disks in all)
    BOOKS
       Apple IIGS Owners Guide
       ImageWriter II Owners Guide
       Unidisk Owners Guide
       Manuals for Thunderscan, Modemworks, TIC 3.1
       Apple II User's Guide, Second Edition
       Apple IIGS Technical Reference
       Using 6502 Assembly Language
       Programming the 6502
       The Guide to What's Where in the Apple
       Programming in Apple Pascal
       plus...back issues of A+/Incider and Softdisk


Price...........................$1599.00 (obo)

This is really a good system.  It won't run any CAD
software for the engineers, but Appleworks is better
than WordPerfect, Lotus, and dBASE put together.  I
wouldn't trade this baby for a 386 any day!!

Interested?  Call.  Reach me at (615)526-4319.  If I'm
in class, leave a message.  You can also send e-mail on
the fidonet network to address "DAVID SPAKES@1:3637/6",
on the internet to "dss1919@tntech.edu", or on bitnet
to "DSS1919@TNTECH".

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.apple2,misc.forsale.computer,misc.forsale.computer.other,ne.forsale
From: ertle@kira.uvm.edu The Sneaky Devil
Subject: AppleII stuff
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: default
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:58:06 GMT


Hi All!
   I bought an 80 column card and "Where in the USA is Carmen
Sandiego?" for my nephew's Apple IIe.  Unfortunately, their computer
is a clone that doesn't have a compatible expansion slot.  So, I'm
selling them both!

The 64k/80 column card is from Sequential Systems and I'd like to get
$15.00 for it.

The game is from Broderbund ( of course! ), and I'd like to get $25.00
for it.

I'll cover postage.


My address is:

James Ertle
4 N. Winooski Ave. #3
Burlington, Vt 05401

--
James A. Ertle                       |If you hear an onion ring, answer it.
ertle@{hal|sal|kira|griffin}.uvm.edu |		- Count Zero
UVM's EMBA Computer Facility         |
Burlington, Vt. USA                  |
Newsgroups: bnr.sys.pc,comp.sys.apple,comp.periphs.printers,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: rjwyatt@bnr.ca (Richard Wyatt)
Subject: Using ImageWriter II standalone (not LAN) with PC
Reply-To: rjwyatt@bnr.ca (Richard Wyatt)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 14:40:30 GMT


First off, I apologize if this is posted to any inappropriate groups (I tried!).


My brother would like to use an Apple ImageWriter II printer with a PC they
have kicking around.  Is this possible?  If so, what hardware and/or software
is required?


Thanx in advance,
Rich.
rjwyatt@bnr.ca

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Rich Wyatt                     "I'm in a groove now, or is it a rut?"  Neil Peart
Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

rjwyatt@bnr.ca                  Views expressed are not necessarily those of BNR.
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From: marcelo@pintado.ciagri.usp.br (Marcelo Zacarias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: TeX/X11
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:29:45 GMT


Hi,

I was trying to install TeX3.14 ftp'ed from vab02.larc.nasa.gov in a PI
(3.3.2 16Mb) when I got the following error messages (during the execution
of 'make' in the /usr/distribution/TeX3.14 directory):

    cc -g -O -I../.. -c X11.c
cpp: error X11.c:11: Can't find include file X11/Xlib.h
cpp: error X11.c:12: Can't find include file X11/Xutil.h
cpp: error X11.c:13: Can't find include file X11/Intrinsic.h
cpp: error X11.c:14: Can't find include file X11/StringDefs.h
*** Error code 1

Stop

Does someone know if it is a fatal error, or affects only the previewer, 
in the way I can still use TeX/LaTeX?

Thanks in advance for any idea.

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Marcelo Zacharias (marcelo@pintado.ciagri.usp.br)
Centro de Informatica na Agricultura
Universidade de Sao Paulo (USP)


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: awolfe@moo.Princeton.EDU (Andrew Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Indigo R4000 vs. R3000 4D/35
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:35:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.142834.7127@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, corkum@csri.toronto.edu (Brent Thomas Corkum) writes:
|> We just installed a R4000 upgrade in an Indigo and after running an in house application
|> that is completely cpu bound I found that it was only 1.8 times faster on the Indigo
|> than on a R3000 4D/35. Now, both have the same amount of memory and the application
|> doesn't use that much. Is this right? Do I need to recompile on the R4000 with some
|> magic compiler option (the code is in kr C)? I'm using the:
|> 
|> -cckr -float -O2
|> 
|> command line options.
|> 
|> Brent



Sounds about right to me...

Remember - even though the CPU is about 3-4 times faster, other factors come
into play.

Examples:

	Main memory is approximately the same speed
	Primary caches are smaller

This means that loads/stores may not speed up if you have little locality.

Also - you imply that you have a lot of floating-point.

	Note that the latency of an FP add only changes from  ~55ns to 40ns.
                       double prec. FP mult     changes from ~140ns to 80ns.


Overall - a speedup of 1.8 is not outside of the expected range.


-- 
--------------------------------------
Andrew Wolfe
Assistant Professor
Department of Electrical Engineering
Princeton University
From: knobi@knobi.munich.sgi.com (Martin Knoblauch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Indigo R4000 vs. R3000 4D/35
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:00:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: knobi.munich.sgi.com

In article <1ijjo9INN6mf@fido.asd.sgi.com>, knobi@knobi.munich.sgi.com
(Martin Knoblauch) writes:
|> 
|>   To get more speedup you can try a few things:
|> 
|> a) use '-mips2'. This makes use of special hardware instructuions
|>    of the R4K processor (double word (8 byte) load/store, sqrt) and
|>    can give some more speed, especially if you use a lot of sqrt
|>    operations, or move a lot of double variables around.

  I forgot to mention one drawback of '-mips2'. You cannot run that
code on R3000 based machines.


Martin
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From: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov (Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  Printing with lpr on an IRIS
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:58:05 GMT

Mehmet D Ertas <ertas@athena.mit.edu> writes:
    "SGI supports printing with lpr only if the printer's on
     a non-sgi machine, but not vice versa, as far as I can tell."

     Hogwash!  We have printers on SGI's and Sun's and use lpr exclusively
to send files to from ALL machines and with no problems.  Just manually set
up your printcap and hosts.lpd files the same as you would on any standard
BSD UNIX machine.  Currently we are using parallel ports on our SGI's for
the printers, however I know of people who use the serial ports too.
Good luck.

  Brent L. Bates				Phone:(804) 864-2854
  M.S. 361			  		  FAX:(804) 864-8469
  NASA Langley Research Center
  Hampton, Virginia  23681-0001
  E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero00.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: SGI support
Followup-To: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: Yale University--Genetics
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:32:53 GMT

I have never used the SGI phone lines because I have never
needed to!  Invariably when I post a question here, it is
answered within a day or two.  Dave Olson and others are *very*
helpful.  Most recently, I had a crash that clobbered x-windows.
I was afraid I'd face a night of system rebuilding, but several
folks on the net (including SGI employees) quickly told me which
configuration file got munged.  In fact, I actually hesitated to
try the fix they suggested because I couldn't believe it was that
simple; after a couple days of manual reading I gave up and tried
what the net wizards suggested--and in 5 minutes X-windows was
back up!

Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
 net pretends to work!"

matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
From: frank@marvin.contex.com (Frank Perdicaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: vhand is bringing my R4K Indigo to its knees!
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:41:21 GMT
Organization: Xyvision Design Systems

In article <ul2uirg@zuni.esd.sgi.com> olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:
>In <1993Jan9.003815.18504@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> senseman@ricky.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
>| Our newly upgraded R4K Indigo is SLOWER than our 4D/50 GT  :-P
>Perhaps you are trying to run just a few more/larger apps ;)
>| Now what did I screw up? 
>Well, it looks like you are running far more jobs than you have
>memory for, so you are doing a lot of paging.
>Something is *seriously* wrong with your ksh processes.  How could
>you possibly have ksh's with 3000 pages (12 MB) resident ?!?!?

Before SGI gave away ksh, we used an AT&T ksh port.  There was a bug
in ksh due to a bad cast someplace that caused similar problems.
Something about a terminal read getting confused under particular
conditions, and instead of getting -1, it got 2^32, and tried to
execute some function chain 2^32 times.  On occasion, if the system
load was correct ( code not localized, high system demand --> swapping,
paging ), this would virtually halt a system.  Ocassionally, I see 
piggish ksh behavior today, and wonder.  

It does not look like your problem.

An example of the effect memory can have.  We had some of the origanal
8k/8k 4D20s, one with 8mb.  A process was stared on it, and after a while,
we estimated it would take 40 hours, based on how much was done. 
The same code was started on a 4D25 with 16mb and the 32k/64?k.  The 
job was finished in less than 10 minutes.  The effect of extra memory
can be highly non-linear, and highly non-intuitive, and is therefore
often discounted by folks that have not seen wild changed in program 
behavior based on memory.  

Get some more memory.
-- 
	 Frank Evan Perdicaro 				Xyvision Color Systems
      Legalize guns, drugs and cash...today.		101 Edgewater Drive
   inhouse: frank@marvin, x5572				Wakefield MA
outhouse: frank@contex.com, 617-245-4100x5572		018801285
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: davea@quasar.mti.sgi.com (David B.Anderson)
Subject: Re: cmplrs/stsupport.h
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:34:53 GMT

In article <1iagvhINNsdd@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bc770@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (George Burgyan) writes:
>
>I was trying to compile GCC-2.3.3 on an IRIS 4D that I have an account on,
>and it all works well execpt fot the fact it cannot find
>"cmplrs/stsupport.h".  The directory "cmplrs" exists, but there are no

cmplrs headers are not installed by default, but they are on the
compilers installation media for the machine.

Get the system administrator to install
        dev.cmplrs_hdr.internal
Or if the compilers on that machine came from a 'maint' tape install:
	maint_dev.dev_cmplrs_hdr.internal

Either of those will get you cmplrs/stsupport.h

Use
        versions -I
to see what is currently installed.

Hope this helps.
[ David B. Anderson             (415)390-4263             davea@sgi.com ]



Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: ag@nextcube.in-berlin.de (Andreas Gradert)
Subject: New SGI GREENIE, was: Frustrated with SGI support..
Organization: Privat
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 02:33:23 GMT

olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:

> In fact, management at SGI encourages us to answer questions on the
> net (except when we get carried away about leaking unannounced
> product info!), even if our responses are sometimes negative about
> some aspect of the company.

OK. We won't tell anybody, but what about the new double processored R4400
handheld with inflateable (sp?) 21" (1664*1440, 16.7Mio Colors) display and
virtual disks & memory. 

Is it true, that it will be the Iris GREENIE? When will the GREENIE be 
delivered? Any upgrades to GREENIE VGXT? And the pricing? I heard about
2000$, but that's too much!

SGI'ers, don't keep us dark!
-- 
mfg, Andreas Gradert  fon +49 30 6923946  email   ag@nextcube.in-berlin.de
     D1000 Berlin 61  fax +49 30 8825421  ...unido!fub!unlisys!nextcube!ag
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: silvert@biome.bio.ns.ca (Bill Silvert)
Subject: Pipeline article on Showcase
Organization: Habitat Ecology Div., Bedford Inst. Oceanography
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:18:09 GMT

Vol. 3 No. 6 of Pipeline has an article on p. 5, explaining how to
insert flowing text into a document.  I've been able to do this, but
checked out the article to see if I could learn some tricks or
shortcuts.  Now I'm really confused!  Even when I went through the
material step by step it didn't work as described.

Do I perhaps have an obsolete version of Showcase or something like
that?  I have IRIX 4.0.5 and Showcase 2.0.3.
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.dfo.ca
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:21:14 EST
From: <COOCHE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: request for benchmark info

Greetings all...

I'm currently in the process of selecting among a variety of UNIX-based
platforms in the 25-35K price range, primarily for use as a platform for
running heavy SAS jobs. As such, I'm seeking some help in guaging SAS
performance on an Indigo (either R3000 or R4000-based). I have a short
benchmark program (which has been kicking around for a couple of years
on SAS-L) which I'd like to send to anyone who's got SAS installed on
their Indigo and would be willing to run the code and send me the result.

Note me if you'd be interested. I'll post comparisons with other UNIX-boxes
if there is sufficient interest.

Thanks in advance...


Evan Cooch
Department of Biology
Queen's University
Kingston, Ontario
Internet: COOCHE@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA
From: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: clock speed
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:48:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ce095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Something that I have noticed since beginning administrating SGIs
several months ago is that the clock on them run fast. Within three
to four days of setting the time on them, they are around 20 minutes
fast. Is this something inherent in SGIs or is it just something with
our setup?
From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Files in /usr/lost+found
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:32:57 GMT

I just had learned about files in /usr/lost+found.  We have a whole slew of them.
What are they? Why are they there?  Why can /usr/lost+found only be read by root?

Info anyone?  Thanks in advance.

BTW:
Except for 1 large image file, they all have dates on the from before
we installed IRIX 4.0  ... 

Fred
---
Fred Phelan
fred@poly2.nist.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: penev@venezia (Penio Penev)
Subject: Re: xcdplayer-2.2 - X11 CD player for Sun and SGI
Organization: Rockefeller University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 09:50:59 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Reply-To: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu
X-Posted-From: venezia.rockefeller.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Bob Pitha (bobp@msi.com) wrote:
: Daniel Rich (drich@sandman.lerc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: : I have posted the latest release of XCdplayer to alt.sources.  The current
: : version will now run on SGI and Sun, and has a set of color defaults.
: : With the SGI version, you also gain the ability to play through either
: : the CDROM drive audio jack, or through the SGI audio board (for those
: : systems so equiped).  This has been tested on both IRIX 4.0.2 and
: : 4.0.5, and will *NOT* work on 4.0.1 (apparently, there are problems
: : with the audio libraries).
: 
:   Is this available via ftp from anywhere?  I'd love to get hold of it...
: Thanks!

Can it read the CD over the network? I have the CD attached to a
Crimson, but would like to listen it on the Indigo.

-- Penio.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: scott@sgisupport.lerc.nasa.gov (SGI_Junkie)
Subject: Re: Upgrade considerations
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:53:48 GMT

In article <34911@adm.brl.mil> rme@stereo.adii.rl.af.mil (Richard M. Evans) writes:
>I am considering upgrading a 4D/340VGX to Reality Engine graphics.
>I've been told by a sales rep that the product is called HU-REALTT.
>What exactly do I get with this upgrade?
>Rich Evans
>rme@stereo.rl.af.mil


  You get:

  a 3 board Reality Engine Set
  a Single Tower chassis to replace twin tower (if necessary)
  Necessary IRIX system software.

  the 21" Monitor is NOT Included (may be purchased seprately)


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From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Status of mailing lists?
Date: 7 Jan 93 06:50:07 GMT


IN the CFV there is a mentioning on 
the fact that this mail address will return 
a reply which mentiones all the comp.sys.sgi subgroups. 
Lets see... 

Regards 
Reinhard 

(Posting for a friend without NEWS access). 

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From: robin@resmel.bhp.com.au (Robin Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Wanted: Driver for Introl CD-DRIVE
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:49:35 +1100
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories
NNTP-Posting-Host: merlin.resmel.bhp.com.au

b4101ai@sun12 (Holger Busse) writes:

>Hello Netters,

>for our optical disk-drive made by INTROL we need a suitable driver to
>work unter IRIX 4.01 or higher. It is an read-and-write-many optical disk-
>drive with 300MB capacity each side. SGI here in Germany was not able yet
>to get into contact with Introl, however SGI did recommend this drive. 
>Perhaps someone got the same problems.

Introl details:
Fax: +1-612-788-9387
Tel: +1-612-788-9391
Address:
Introl Corporation
2817 Anthony Lane South
Minneapolis, MN 55418 USA

Make sure that you get the correct version for the version of IRIX that you
are running.  We are running IRIX 4.0.5 and need a version of the software
later than 2.0b though I doin't know what it is as I havn't managed to get
it out of their local agents yet!

Hope this helps
Robin
PS your return address needs looking at - my email reply to you bounced!
-- 
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Computer Systems Group, BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories.
Snail:245 Wellington Road Mulgrave VIC 3170 AUSTRALIA.
Tel:+61-3-560-7066, Fax:+61-3-561-6709, net:robin@resmel.bhp.com.au
-- 
Robin Brown, System Administrator - Unix Systems and CAD/CAM/CAE 
Computer Systems Group, BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories.
Snail:245 Wellington Road Mulgrave VIC 3170 AUSTRALIA.
Tel:+61-3-560-7066, Fax:+61-3-561-6709, net:robin@resmel.bhp.com.au
From: dank@cco.caltech.edu (Daniel R. Kegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Zmodem or Kermit for SGI Iris?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:59:17 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I'm trying to get good performance on file transfers over a serial
line and modem.  The Kermit on the Iris in question works, but won't
accept the 'set window 16' command, which is vital for decreasing
dead time during file transfers.

Does anyone know of a precompiled Kermit (better than the stock one)
or Zmodem (rz/sz) implementation for Irix 4.x?  
I would also be willing to use source code, once I get gcc downloaded.
Thanks,
   Dan Kegel (dank@cco.caltech.edu)