HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler conflict?
From: robert_hess@macweek.ziff.com (Robert Hess)
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:11:18 EDT
Organization: MacWEEK

In article <1992Aug15.105402.14721@tdb.uu.se>, t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson) writes:
> 
> The other day I tried to defragment my harddisk by using the Norton Speed Disk,
> but instead of a faster disk, I only got a crashed system file. Is Norton
> Utilities incompatible with AutoDoubler, which I have installed?

There should be no problem with this scenario. However, I don't know offhand if
Speed Disk is considered a "literal" to AutoDoubler. If not, the defragmentation
process would be MUCH faster if you reboot without AutoDoubler or turn it off
prior to defragmenting. This is due to the fact there's no reason for Speed Disk
to be handed files in their native, fully-expanded format since it's simply going
to relocate them.

Robert
From: ljones@utkvx4.utk.edu (Jones, Leslie Lamont)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: IS CRYSTAL QUEST 2.2 S7 COMPATIBLE?
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:08:00 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hey all!

Two questions:
go boom
1. Is Crystal Quest 2.2 compatible with system 7; i.e., will it make my system


2. If it is not system 7 compatible, does Cassady and Greene offer a free
update?

I found CQ 2.2 on sale for $15, prompting this post. Incidentally, the same
store has such antiquities as ThinkTank 512 (predecessor of MORE) and Execel
1.03!

Thanks in advance,
LJONES@utkvx.utk.edu
Leslie Lamont Jones
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673)
Subject: Re: Word 5 error avoidance
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:36:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.135700.11116@aston.ac.uk>, barretpj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Phil J Barrett) writes...
>I've been doing a lot of editing of large documents in Word 5.0a, and have
>had several errors relating to "disk errors". It turns out that these are not
>physical disk errors, but are probably errors with the Word Temp file.
> 
>Specifically, when I copy a large chunk of text from one file and paste it
>into another, Word is likely to report an error (and sometimes crash the Mac)
>during subsequent find and/or replace operations.
> 
>To prevent these errors, it seems the file has to be saved straight after
>pasting the text. Presumably this gives Word a disk copy of the text to work 
>from, rather than using a copy in memory or in a large Word Temp file.
> 

Possibly, increasing the memory alloted to Word will also alleviate such 
problems. 

Susan Kayser		NCF::KAYSER  or  kayser%nssdca.span@star.stanford.edu
Hughes/STX at NASA/GSFC/NSSDC
Greenbelt, MD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: etnstj@bestemor.etn.ericsson.se (Tjemsland Svein)
Subject: XTND Translators - Where ??
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AS
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:14:12 GMT

Hello folks !!

	Does anyone know if there exists free XTNDs for various
document formats ??

(If so, where to find them ??)


svein t.


========

"... I found that if a file that is transferred has 
a size that starts with the numbers '421' the error occures" 
			    
			    - a developer admits a bug ....
======= 

--

--- +++ ---

Svein Tjemsland
R&D Engineer, Software Tools
Ericsson Telecom, Norway
e-mail: etnstj@etn.ericsson.se
tel +47 (0)41 19483
fax +47 (0)41 10383
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hughson@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (J.R. Hughson)
Subject: resolve & apple events
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:27:55 GMT


Hello,	
	I was wondering if anyone knows:

	1. Is the current version of resolve 1.0v2.  I got it the first
		day it was out here at OSU.

	2. Is there anyway to accept/send apple events from either the
		scripting language or externals.  I would like to be
		able to send data from my application to resolve and
		have it hadle it according to a script.  I checked
		the manual and there was no listing for it.


Thanks
J.R.
hughson@cis.ohio-state.edu or jhughson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: boyce@amo.mit.edu (Kevin Boyce)
Subject: Positioning question for Word 5
Summary: Can I make text flow BACKWARDS past a frame?
Keywords: Word, question, frame, position
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:49:52 GMT

So this isn't really a Word question, because it seems to be standard
in all the word processors I've tried, but it bugs me....
 
Why the hell won't text flow backward past a positioned object (now 
called a "frame")?  Or, to put it another way, why is the page break
calculated BEFORE the positioning is done?

I have lots of full-page figures in my t----s (I'll be able to speak
the word after my defense, I promise), and I don't want a random fraction
of the preceding page to be blank in every case.  If I don't frame it,
naturally it does a page break before the large graphic.  But, if I 
use a frame, putting it at, say, the top of the page, it STILL forces
a new page break before the graphic, which then goes at the top of the
next page.  

When I had 4.0, I called MS several times, and got several bogus answers
from several morons, and one useful fellow who said, "Yes, that's a deliberate
design decision."  Does anybody know if there's a way around it now?
I haven't called MS yet, and I'll do that unless somebody here knows
any good info about the situation.  

Am I the only person who is bothered by this?
--------
Kevin		boyce@amo.mit.edu
"Yes, playing, playing here is lovely, here in the BBC.
 We're free to play as long, and as loud, as the foreign language classes,
 And that John Cage interview.
 And the jazz groups, and the orchestras on Radio 3."    --Soft Machine again
From: sold@kit.uni-kl.de (Christoph Sold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: After Dark Hack Wanted
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:04:52 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Kaiserslautern

In article <1992Aug12.221046.16494@newshost.lanl.gov> davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons) writes:
>Subject: After Dark Hack Wanted
>From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:10:46 GMT
>
>Okay, I hope someone out there has tried this before and has a 
>hack for this probably obscure request...
>
>I have the "Say What?" module that displays random quotes, and I want
>to print out the quotes that it has.  I found where they are stored
>with ResEdit, but still, I found no way to print them out.
>
>Anybody have  a hack?
>-- 
>
>David G. Simmons	"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a
>davids@lanl.gov		meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and
>			add drama to an otherwise dull day."
>						-Calvin
>If I said it, LANL didn't..."If you weren't such a muttonhead, you might have 
>thought of it yourself!" (Calvin, again...)
>
>-- 
>
>David G. Simmons	"A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a
>davids@lanl.gov		meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and
>			add drama to an otherwise dull day."

DeRez the 'STR ' resource using either the Rez tool of MPW or SaDerez. This 
will be a printable plain text file.

-Christoph

Christoph P. Sold                   CATS Software GmbH
                                    Mussbacher Landstr.2
                                    W-6730 Neustadt (Weinstrasse)
ger.xse0035@applelink.apple.com     Germany

"If an apple is fun, what the heck is an appletree?"
From: purp@wixer.cactus.org (Jim Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Short Nuntius/NewsWatcher review
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:26:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: wixer.1992Aug14.162620.14750
Organization: Real/Time Communications

I'm an Internet-less user; where can I get a copy of Nuntius?

--Purp, looking for a better solution than TRN.


-- 
+---------------+------------------------------+-----------------------+
| Jim Meyer     | If I express an opinion, you | purp@wixer.cactus.org |
| Austin, Tejas | can bet no one else agrees.  | aka jimpurp@pro-lep   |
+---------------+------------------------------+-----------------------+
From: Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (Jim Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: FETCH and GIF Weather Maps?
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:37:15 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

David A. Artis writes
> I read in one of the alt.pictures groups about GIF weather maps, updated 
> hourly, available at FTP site vmd.cso.uiuc.edu (you have to tell Fetch  
to 
> change working directory to wx).  I got into the site ok, and tried 
> dowloading a few examples, using "binary".  However, I've not been able  
to 
> get any of the files to display with any of several Mac GIF viewers-  
each 
> says the file is damaged or in an invalid format.  A friend on an IBM PC 
> downloaded the same files and had no problem displaying them with his  
GIF 
> viewer. Any ideas?

The problem is that vmd.cso.uiuc.edu is an IBM machine and the FTP server  
only does EBCDIC->ASCII translation if the FTP client asks for "TYPE I"  
binary transfers.  Fetch typically does binary transfers with "TYPE L 8",  
in order to support non-8-bit-byte machines.  According to the FTP spec  
"TYPE I" and "TYPE L 8" should be equivalent on a machine with 8-bit  
bytes, such as vmd, but the best specified protocols can still be  
mis-implemented....

So the solution is to get Fetch 2.1b4 from dartvax.dartmouth.edu, and turn  
on the "Use TYPE I" option in Preferences.  You can also set up Suffix  
Mapping and Post-Processing so that the GIF files will get the right icon  
and even be opened automatically.

Enjoy,

Jim Matthews
Fetch Author
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Look & Feel
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 09:01:10 EDT

In article <D88-JWA.92Aug14130203@dront.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:
>
>The way patents are going these days; just "sorting" in general
>might infringe on some of the "blanket" patents; and probably
>the same guy who patented quicksort patented heapsort as well.

Well, the way the patent system works, there should *not* be any "blanket
patents."  By my understanding, this was part of the problem with the look
and feel lawsuits--the companies involved found that they couldn't get
the "blanket patents" that they wanted, so they attempted to create new
precedent by "copyrighting" their "look and feel."

BTW, quicksort and heapsort were not invented by the same guy, and both would
be in the public domain now, if they hade been patented.


>   Let's look at the position of sorting algorithms simply being tools, like
>   hammers. However, suppose I invent a better hammer. Let's assume that it is
>   significantly different from previous hammers in that I can pound in nails
>   much faster, using less energy than previous hammers. This would seem to be
>
>Ah, but you hammer still has a shaft, hasn't it ? You'd have to
>LICENSE the usage of a shaft from the previous hammer patentee.
>Not to mention that he's gotten so much money from his hammer shaft
>licensing that he's in bahamas on vaccation the next 6 months; you'll
>just have to wait.

(I can only speak for patent law in the US, but I would imagine that the
basic patent concepts are reasonably standardized, by now...)

This is *not* correct.  First of all, derivative works are *not* protected
by patents--this is part of their system of encouraging innovation.  By
introducing your own improvements, you get to use other's ideas for free.

Even if the "hammer shaft" were somehow considered an separate element that
your new designe used, unchanged, you wouldn't have to license it because it's
too damn old!

And this is no small point.  If you look at most of the programming tools that
you talk about as "basic" or "fundamental" that you are worried about having
to license, you will see that the vast majority are old enough that, even if
they had been patented, they would be public domain now.


>I wonder why there's no shareware cars?

Because there no "shareware" *hardware* of any sort.  The idea of shareware
could work only with inexpensively reproduceable work, where the value comes
from the *development* of the product (almost) exclusively, with (essentially)
no costs for production.


>Do you want computer programs to take as much time and effort to
>design, research patents, and license patents, and cost as much,
>and take as long, as making a car?

Your suggestion that this might become the case is not at all convincing.


-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673)
Subject: Re: Hiearchical Font Menus?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:34:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.014028.22454@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, an446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Daniel Boeringer) writes...
>Are there any extensions which provide user-definable 
>hierarchical font menus?

WYSIWYG Menus, in Now Utilities, will allow you to rearrange the order in which 
fonts appear on the Font Menu and to collect members of a type family into a 
single entry on the menu with a hierarchical submenu to select the desired 
member (Adobe Type Reunion does this, too), as well as showing the fonts' names 
in their own font (Suitcase does this), and sizes and styles in the 
corresponding size and style.  Is this what you had in mind?

Susan Kayser		NCF::KAYSER  or  kayser%nssdca.span@star.stanford.edu
Hughes/STX at NASA/GSFC/NSSDC
Greenbelt, MD
From: anderson@fpg.uwaterloo.ca (Glenn Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Disk Image program with password protection
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:22:15 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing services


I am looking for a disk image program much like disk copy, that will make and
extract disk images. The only thing is I need to have a password to protect
the image file. The idea is when the user opens the image file, they are prompted
for a password.
From: dana@are.Berkeley.EDU (Dana E. Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 and Print Merging/Tables
Date: 17 Aug 1992 15:30:42 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug17.063628.22820@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> perrocho@inf.ethz.ch (Louis Perrochon) writes:
>I would like to use the print merge command to put a list into a table.
>(I found out how to remove the section breaks, but don't know how to get rid of
>the paragraph-marks, wich separate the tables.)
>
>2. If my main document produces a tab-separated list of items, I could
>transform it to a table, but I then have to set the width of each column
>separately.
>
If you have an extended keyboard, both the section break or page
break and the paragraph marker can be removed by using the del key
(the "forward delete" key next to the "end" key and below the
"help" key). Position the cursor before the page break and
paragraph marker and press the key to delete them and the result is
a single table. If you do not have this key on your keyboard you
can select the paragraph mark and the break and use "cut" to delete
them, or you can use the keyboard command-option f to delete
forward (assuming you have that key combination set in your
commands dialog).

Assuming that you know ahead of time what column width you want the
table to have before you do the print merge, you could have the
table set up once; set the result of your print merge to be tab
delimited text; change the tab-delimited text to a table; copy from
this table into the previously set up table that has the correct
column widths. Make sure you have at least as many rows as will be
necessary; do not select the whole table before pasting, simply put
the cursor in the top left-hand cell and paste. Remove any unwanted
rows using the delete row command (which can be found in the
commands dialog, I have put all these table commands on my menus
for faster access).
-- 
Dana E. Keil           Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics
dana@are.Berkeley.EDU                 University of California, Berkeley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Craig Suchland <suchland@arco.com>
Subject: Re: Fetch and GIF Weather Maps, SUMMARY
X-Xxdate: Thu, 20 Aug 92 03:24:50 GMT
Organization: ARCO Alaska, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:24:24 GMT

Can anyone help with downloads from vmd.cso.uiuc.edu - I can't seem to
get anywhere with FTP!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Database recommendations wanted
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:31:49 GMT

Hi, we're looking for a database for the Mac which handles "automated
invoice number assignments, custom invoices, and maybe accounts
receivable recordkeeping," according to my co-worker who's looking for
it.  Can someone give us any database recommendations which handles
all this?  Someone recommended FoxBASE+ to her; does it do what she
wants it to?  4th Dimension was top-rated in MacWorld's 6th Annual
World Class Awards (golly, it sounds so...special) - how good is it?

I'd appreciate it if you could E-mail me any advice you might have.  Thanks.
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
From: Matt.Jeffries@f301.n670.z3.fidonet.org (Matt Jeffries)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: MYOB
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:34:00 +1000

I need a copy of MYOB Demo application. Can anyone supply it? I know 
it is on Macconnection but I don't have enough time on that BBS to 
download it. 
 * Origin: Tassie DataBank Line #02, D'bridge Tasmania 2800mb PEP (3:670/301)
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Look & Feel
Date: 23 Aug 92 12:28:38 GMT
	<lsr-190892144921@lsr.taligent.com>
	<D88-JWA.92Aug20094026@dront.nada.kth.se> <za-na0l.btoback@netcom.com>
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se

> btoback@netcom.com (Bruce Toback) writes:

   Copyright protects the exact expression of the program maker, but not
   the design or algorithm that was the real creative work in the program.
   That also deserves protection.

Why do those algorithms deserve protection, when the structure
of a painting (or, indeed, a song) does not deserve protection?

   Such a patent would not last for 17+ years, but for a shorter 
   period of time, e.g., 3-5 years. These patents would be issued for
   algorithms that were "unique and nonobvious" just as patents are 

I've already said that I would grumblingly accept such a
situation, with the provision that "unique and nonobvious to
a skilled practitioner of the art" actually makes provisions
for the practitioner being skilled...

   least obvious algorithms. Applications would be published immediately
   to help prevent "blanket" patenting.

Another kind of protection is "trade secrets" - just don't
publish at all, and you have a very good chance of protecting
your software. Any algorithms that is complicated enough not
to be trivial or obvious, should be pretty hard to read out of
compiled object code...

   Such a narrow, short-term patent could be useful in other fields. 
   Gene sequences could be covered by such a patent, helping researchers
   recover their costs but not precluding innovation based on the
   information contained in the sequence.

I was under the impression that the medical field already has
such a system. However, I think the patent time there is as low
as two years.

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:13492 comp.sys.mac.games:8401 comp.sys.mac.misc:15095 comp.sys.mac.system:11117
From: monty%roscom@think.com (Monty Solomon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: QuicKeys 2.1.2a/Solarian II Interaction
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:49:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: proponen.1992Aug19.084945.4136
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Proponent

There is an incompatibility between QuicKeys 2.1.2a (CEToolbox 1.6.5) and  
Solarian II 1.04.

I am running a IIfx with System 6.0.5.

Solarian II uses the API to turn off QuicKeys which appears to turn off all of  
QuicKeys except for its processing of Command-Q.

Before installing the QuicKeys upgrade from 2.0.1 I could use Command-Option-.  
to disable Command-Q processing by QuicKeys and then use Command-Q to quit  
Solarian II.

With the current version of QuicKeys, Command-Option-. doesn't appear to  
disable the Command-Q processing by QuicKeys and I can't exit Solarian II and  
must shut down the machine to exit the program.

What is going on?  Is there a fix available?

Thanks.

Monty

-- 
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
From: pmfisher@milton.u.washington.edu (Patrick Fisher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Typing Tutor for the mac?
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:10:55 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	All libraries should have them.  They are called typing
books.  Helped me out quite a bit FOR FREE.

	Pat-
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Laser Prep - is it still needed with 6.0.7
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:10:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

pjl@sparc10.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas) writes:

>In <78012@ut-emx.uucp> charlieb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Nihil) writes:

>> We know that we do not need to have the laser prep on the system seven 
>> machines.  But what about the 6.0.7 machines?  Do we need the 6.0.7 
>> laser prep file in addition to the 7.1.1 driver on the 6.0.7 machines?

>*****>	Huh?  The LaserPrep file *is* required under System 7.

No, it is not. The information that was formally in the Laser Prep file
under earlier version of the OS is now included in the LaserWriter
driver itself. You do not need the Laser Prep file under System 6 or
System 7 using the System 7 LaserWriter driver. I am the administrator
for just such machines at my site. The only thing that I know of that
requires that System 7 Laser Prep file is some versions of the
AppleShare server, which evidently looked for that file specifically
and would not operate without it.

pr
--
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: brians@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Brian J Smith)
Subject: DoveFax+ trouble
Summary: won't answer
Keywords: Dovefax
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:27:44 GMT

Help. My Dovefax+ is being rather obstinant and refuses to pick up the phone
and act as the answering machine/voice mail system it was designed to.

I've got an SE30 sys 6.07 and INITS which may or may not be the trouble. I've
replaced the reported one, Suitcase, with a compatible version and still no
luck.

Any suggestions (other than the turn-off-your-inits-answer)?

Brian Smith
Sydney, Australia

brians@extro.ucc.su.oz.au