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From:         Betsy Moon <BMOON@GWUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Labels

How many of you all use your Innovative Interfaces software to generate spine l
abels for books?  What sorts of labels do you use?  What sorts of printers?  I
am investigating the possibility of doing away with our clunky old Se-lin label
ling machine and using our Innovative software to generate the labels instead.
 How happy are those of you who use Innovative to make their labels?  It takes
our student assistant an inordinate amount of time to type, cut apart, and iron
 on the labels and I would like to streamline the labelling process if possible
.  Y'all can just respond to me.  Thanks.  Betsy Moon (bmoon@gwuvm.bitnet)
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From:         STEPHEN ROLLINS <SROLLINS@UNMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Authority Control Question

                    UNIVERSITY OF NEW MEXICO
                        General Library

                          505-277-6401
                         srollins@unmb
                     srollins@unmb.unm.edu



                                        Date:December 23, 1992

To: Santa's III Helpers

From: Steve Rollins

Subject:  Exporting of Authority Records


Our Innopac system went online in June, 1992 and we have spent
considerable time since then in exploring the wonders and
mysteries of the system's authority control.


It appears that the system reports all first time use of names
and continues to report the same name in the authority reports
until an authority record is added to the system.  If this is
correct then an authority record would be needed for all
personal names.  While I am not an authority on authority
control this requirement appears to be overkill. So I have been
asked to post the following question:


Do Innopac sites export authority reports that do NOT have cross
references and notes?


If you send any reply directly to me, I will post the results at
a later date.


Happy Holidays
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:31:43 -0400
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From:         SLBWML@RITVAX.BITNET
Subject:      OPAC Enhancement Request

I received several duplicate enhancement requests for OPAC for
"a program/mechanism to easily create and download bibliographies
to diskette or bibliographic software".

In release 8, "Libraries that have acquired INNOPAC's "export" or
"create a bibliography" function in their OPAC can now export
Bibliographic records contained in a review file for capture by a PC
running terminal emulation software such as SOFTERM....Once a
review file has been created, a new option appears on the LIST
RECORDS screen:  X> EXPORT your review file."

This seems to satisfy this enhancement request.  If people had something
else in mind, could you please let me know so that I can include it in
the OPAC enhancements list?

Thanks to everyone for all their enhancements.  Happy Holidays!!

Shirley Bower
Rochester Institute of Technology
slbwml@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
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From:         Michael Fahy <FAHY@VAXLIB.BITNET>
Subject:      Innopac vs. Dynix

My thanks to Steve Herro for responding to my inquiry about the choice
between Innopac and Dynix.  If anyone else has faced this choice
recently, we would appreciate hearing from you.  Send your response to

Library@chapman.edu
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From:         "Steven J. Herro" <herrsj@SNCAC.SNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Innopac or Dynix?
              92 11:29 am

Innopacers:

I am sorry for sending this to the list, but Michael did not sign his
mail personally and I could not find him in the ALA directory, so I
I am hoping to reach him through the list.

Michael:

First, please remember to sign all of your mail.  Some mail systems such
as ours do not include all of the customary heading information, so I
do not know your individual address.

St. Norbert College chose III in the summer of 1991.  Dynix was one of about
six companies which responded to our RFP.  Out of the six, I seem to recall
that it was in the bottom third.  Basically, we just did not think that it
 coulddo some of the features that we wanted as well as DRA and III could.  We
 are a
small comprehensive college library in Wisconsin.

We have had all of the III modules up since May, 1992.  We have been very
 pleaseed.  Circulation is up about one third from pre-automation days.  I work
 in reference and information services, so I am very aware of ease of use for
 out
patrons.  Some patrons who have used other automated system have complimented
 uson ours over others that they have used.

I also favor the relative ease of doing some pretty sophisticated searching.
For example, the limiting capability is very powerful, and it is very easy to
get into this mode.

We have installed the III software on a DEC 5500 minicomputer.  We have had
 someproblems between the minicomputer and the servers, but nothing that our
 computerservices people have not been able to rectify after a few hours.

I hope that this helps.  If you need any more specifics, please let me know.

Steve Herro
St. Norbert College Todd Wehr Library
herrsj@sncac.snc.edu

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> Our library is about to convert to an electronic system, and hsd
> narrowed down the choices to Innopac and Dynix.  We would like to hear
> from anyone who has recently faced the same decision.  Why did you
> choose Innopac over Dynix, and are you happy with the way things turned
> out?
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From:         Peter Stevens <stevens@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Online submission of order requests on Innopac

I've been asked to query the listserv to learn if any Innopac acquisitions
sites have found a way for selectors to input their order requests online
to their acquisitions departments.  At this Geac site, selectors' staff
across campus and at remote campuses submit most of their order requests
online via the Geac acquisitions system.  With Geac, it is possible to
enable staff to input records into the acquisitions system while limiting
which funds can be encumbered--and to prevent such staff from actually
generating a purchase order.  The Geac system automatically prints a
request form the following morning for any record that is input into the
system which is not turned into an order; this request form is used by
acquisitions staff for searching OCLC, serials records, BIP, etc in lieu
of the usual printed purchase request form. This online request method is
very popular around the system.  Are there any Innovative libraries with
such a scheme who would be willing to contact me? I will summarize for the
list if there are any replies.


Peter H. Stevens                        Email: stevens@u.washington.edu
Head, Acquisitions Division, FM-25      Phone: 206-543-1919
University of Washington Libraries      Fax:   206-685-8782
Seattle, WA  98195  USA                 Office: Suzzallo Library 170-B
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From:         L_BILLS@OLDCC.BRYNMAWR.EDU
Subject:      Re: Authority Control Question

Steve,
We have not observed that names are reported more than once as
new.  In our experience the "First Time Use" reports are just that - the
first time a name (or subject) is filed in its index, it is reported
as new and never reported so again, regardless of whether we do
anything at all.

Perhaps you should check with III - this sounds like a bug.

Linda Bills
Tri-College Consortium
l_bills@oldcc.brynmawr.edu
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From:         QUINN@MAINE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Authority Control Question

CMD
Here at the University of Maine we do NOT export any authority records
that do not have cross references.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:56:32 -0400
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From:         LUCAS@MCOIARC.BITNET
Subject:      Re: labels

      I have just seen Betsy Moon's comment about doing away with their
      Se-lin machine.

      For some time, we have been using the Se-lin label stock in one of
      the pre-sized sheet formats or a Se-lin clone version of it.  We
      have found it a much less stressful alternative than the roll
      format, although it is said that sheets are better for lower
      quantity amounts.  We never tried the "improved" version.  I think
      that those of us who have kept with this product have done so
      because it seems to be the "toughest thing going" among other
      reasons.

      I have been talking for a good part of this year (off-and-on) with
      Gaylords' customer sersvice Se-lin specialist.  Recently, she
      informed me that in the first half of 93, they will be offering
      the Se-lin product on pin-feed stock, to accomodate more libraries
      having more automated systems.  I have received a couple of
      pre-production samples, which have the sheet version on pin-feed
      backing in rows of 2 and 4 labels.  Like the sheet version, the
      cover acetates are separate.

      However, I have not heard that they will be offering label sets
      that would offer both the Se-lin label, with a coard and/or pocket
      label on one sheet.  Maybe this will also be forthcoming, or maybe
      they will continue with their separate pocket/labels on pin-feed
      to be used with their software.  That however, seems a little
      cumbersome.

      Gaylord might appreciate the input from Se-lin users. (Or they;
      might not).  Give them a call, and express your wants, neets,
      desires and maybe urge them to promote more versitile label
      format designs or a complete package which could attract more
      cataloging departments back to their product.

      John Lucas
      Head, Technical Services
      Medical College of Ohio at Toledo
      HUMAN: (419) 381-4106
      FAX:   (419) 382-8842
      BITNET:lucas%cutter@mcoiarc
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 11:29:22 PST
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From:         Michael Fahy <FAHY@VAXLIB.BITNET>
Subject:      Innopac or Dynix?

Our library is about to convert to an electronic system, and hsd
narrowed down the choices to Innopac and Dynix.  We would like to hear
from anyone who has recently faced the same decision.  Why did you
choose Innopac over Dynix, and are you happy with the way things turned
out?
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From:         BENNETR@FSA.WOSC.OSSHE.EDU
Subject:      Intermec barcode readers

Our Innopac system was installed in Dec 92.  We are having difficulty
installing Intermec 9510 barcode readers (model 9510B0101) and
Intermec 1260 wands (model 1260A0101) to the system.  The barcode
equipment is cabled to Wyse 60 terminals.  The terminals operate
fine when connected through Intermec reader.

We use Codabar for our book barcodes and Code 39 for patron ID cards.
The 9510 Online Reader System Manual has been used to attempt
configuration of the 9510 reader using Intermec's CRT terminal
program.

I would appreciate help from anyone in selecting the right
configuration settings (op settings, protocol, etc.).

Please respond directly to me:  bennetr@fsa.wosc.osshe.edu







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Roy Bennett
Coordinator of Electronic Resources
Western Oregon State College
345 N. Monmouth Ave.
Monmouth, OR 97361-1396

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From:         Michael Rissinger <michael_rissinger@MACMAIL.MED.NYU.EDU>
Subject:      NLM & LC call numbers

                       Subject:                               Time:9:39 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          NLM & LC call numbers                  Date:12/22/92
All branches currently on our INNOPAC use LC classification.  LC call numbers
are in MARC fields tagged 050 in either the Bib or item record.  Shortly, we
will be adding 2 branches that use NLM classification.  In preparation, III has
added an NLM classification index that will be derived from item record call
numbers in a MARC field tagged 060.  Our future branches' call numbers QS thru
QZ and W thru WZ will go in our NLM classification index.  My question is where
do we put LC classification numbers used by branches using NLM classification,
eg. BF, HV, U, V?  Should these LC-like call numbers be placed in the NLM
index, thereby keeping all of our new branches' call numbers in one index?  Or,
should the LC-like call numbers be placed in the LC index, thereby keeping all
like call numbers in one index?

Does anyone know what happens with the SCAT table if LC-like classification
numbers are placed in an NLM classification number index?  Does the SCAT table
work with 2 call number indexes?

Are there any other problems I should look out for?

If replies are made to me personally, I will be happy to summarize them to the
list.

===============================================================
Michael Rissinger
rissinger@med.nyu.edu
Ehrman Medical Library                                       (212) 263-6691
New York University Medical Center
550 First Ave.
New York, NY 10016
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From:         Dan Mahoney <dmahone@HAL.UNM.EDU>
Subject:      mactelnet and innopac

If one uses NCSA mactelnet to telnet to an innopac system,
the following may be of some interest to ya.



The problem you reported was with the library system, using Telnet 2.4.2

Indeed there was a bug with boldface characters, and in particular, with
lining up the output correctly.  This has since been fixed and works just
fine with the library catalog system.

You might want to get a newer version of the program.  It is available on
anonymous ftp from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu, in the Mac/Telnet directory.  Version
2.5 should solve your problems.  If you have any more questions, please let me
know.

Thanks,
Scott Bulmahn
NCSA, Software Tools Group
sbulmahn@ncsa.uiuc.edu

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From: L_BILLS@OLDCC.BRYNMAWR.EDU
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Subject: Management enhancements already done
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The following are a couple of things requested in the management
enhancements that are already in the release 8 (or earlier) software:

Some of these had multiple requests, so I thought the list might
be interested.

1.  In View Patron Suggestions, when you are done with Suggestions and
want to see "books requested for purchase", you can do so without
exiting the option and having to re-key your password to get back in.

2.  In Create Lists, when you are finished with one list, the system
takes you back to the list of lists instead of exiting the List function.
No more typing your password dozens of times when you are doing
list cleanup!

3.  More lists, bigger lists.  We have included in the enhancement suggestions
that more lists or bigger lists (or something tohelp with statistice
and report creation in large institutions) be initiated.  However,
it is also my understanding that

        you can buy more groups of lists from III.

        you can arrange the list groups in any way you want - so
        that instead of having 4 60,000 lists, you could have one
        240,000 list.

4.  Allow modification of existing search statements - so that when
you input a strategy that you need to use again with only a little
modification at the end, you don't have to re-type it (or remember
it) - this is part of the "save" option in release 8.  After a seach is
typed in, you can save it (with a name) and later call it back up
to re-use.  The recalled strategy can be added to for the current list.

You modify it the same way you would modify any strategy now - add another
factor or ESC to backup and replace a factor - it is not full-text
editing or anything fancy like that.

---------------------------------

Thank you all for your contributions to the management enhancement
list.

Linda Bills
Tri-College Consortium
l_bills@oldcc.brynmawr.edu
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From:         BENNETR@FSA.WOSC.OSSHE.EDU
Subject:      Key caps

Does anyone have a source and price for key caps for an Enhanced IBM
keyboard used with a Wyse 60 terminal?  In particluar, I am looking
to replace the main "enter" key with a colored/dark gray "Retrun"
key cap and the "Home" key with a colored cap either blank or with
the word "Start".

More generally, have users replaced keys with specials colors or
wording?




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Roy Bennett
Coordinator of Electronic Resources
Western Oregon State College
345 N. Monmouth Ave.
Monmouth, OR 97361-1396

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From:         Klaus Wolkersdorfer <VMPROD@DJUKFA11.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: XAB for PSF -files

Marieke, you could use: PRINT ... (OVERSIZE
or even better:

PIPE < ... | spec X5A 1 1-* next | printmc

X'5A' identifies the spooling record as a record with oversize.

It works for us.
Best regards
Klaus
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From:         Marieke Tiecke <SSCP0055@HASARA11.BITNET>
Subject:      XAB for PSF -files

Hello,

I do not know if this is the right forum but my problem is the following:
I have an exec in which I do not want to call PSF but use the CMS PRINT
command instead, and add the XAB by means of Pipes' XAB device driver.

It works fine, apart from the following:
1) files with large records (GDDM) will be handled by PSF but not by PRINT:
   --->  DMSPRT044E Record length exceeds allowable maximum
2) PRINT ... (NOCC will insert header lines in the print file whereas PSF
   doesn't

Does anyone have an idea?
Thanks

Marieke Tiecke <SSCP0055@HASARA11>
               <Marieke@SARA.NL>
Academic Computer Services Amsterdam
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From:         POOK@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: More books and films

I wish I saw Mr. Meyer-Kress's later posting on B-H regarding the
projects he is working on to "stop the fighting" in B-H.  However, I stand
by my original posting since I did address some of his points though
not directly.  I will wait and see what some of the other list members
reply.

Laci
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From:         "Marcia B. Waller" <MWALLER@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU>

sub list-l Marcia B. Waller
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Subject:      Re: More books and films

Actually, the reason many UN efforts have been unsuccessful is the fact that th
e deployed military elements operate under constraints more akin to the police
paradigm than the military one.  In most instances, they've specifically been p
rohibited from taking any offensive action, and almost no defensive action.  Th
e situation in Bosnia/Serbia/etc. is markedly distinct from that in Somalia.  T
he Serb "chetniks" are a bonafide military force with significant firepower who
have a history of fighting successfully as guerrillas/partisans.  As I noted in
a previous reply on this issue, most military experts, including the former UN
Force commanding general from Canada, have assessed the manpower requirements t
o successfully execute a military operation in Bosnia at a level so high that m
ost UN members would find the costs, political and economic, to be unacceptable
  The force size we're talking about would be on a par with that deployed for
Desert Storm and fighting on terrain significantly more difficult to negotiate
than the Iraq/Kuwait desert.  If the full miltary option were adopted, would
the UN have the fortitude to hold Serbian population centers as hostages or tar
gets of air strikes, etc.?  Uncle Ernie
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From:         THEMIL@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU
Subject:      Deutsche Welle

Deutsche Welle reported at 0300hrs GMT 25 Dec 92 that the (former Yugoslav
republic of) Macedonia said that it will seal its borders if Serbia moves in-
to Kosovo.  Can Macedonia muster a defense? Does this indicate that the
Republic of Macedonia (not the historical region) is indeed very worried about
attack? Does the purported good showing of the Nationalist (Serbian) party inn
(correction.."in") the recent elections give impetus to reclaim the birthplace
of Serbian nationalism?

P.S. This is the first time I have responded or submitted info to this list.
As I think of what perhaps I could contribute, perhaps someone would wish
to talk about Svetozar Stojanovich, a revisionist Marxist, former member
of the Belgrade 8, current advisor to Kosic, etc. He was to have been my
Post Communism and Marxism professor at the University of Kansas but could
not make it (or was denied a visa).

-Clay Miller
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