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From: dfo@csi.compuserve.com (Duane Ott)
Subject: Re: "New Age" label (was Re: New Age/Christian Survey -Help!)
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:55:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.154642.18304@col.hp.com> judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller) writes:
>
>I haven't thought of checking out CD's from the library.
>It's been awhile since I spent much time in a library (8+ years undergraduate
>with 2 different majors kind of burned me out).
>What's available?  (I've got a DAT deck and many times I don't want to
>purchase an entire CD but just grab a song or two.)
>

If your library has a good assortment, it's a cheap way to build a collection.
Probably half of the 100 cassettes in my office were taped from library
albums or the radio. I also tape my LPs so I can listen to them more easily.
And as you mentioned, it allows you to copy only the good stuff.
With DAT it would be even better, none of the usual loss in quality.
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From: korins-russ@CS.YALE.EDU (Russ Korins)
Subject: TD's "Alpha Centauri"
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:36:19 GMT

I just got Tangerine Dream's Alpha Centauri and I'm a little disappointed;
it's a bit too "spacey" for me.

I was wondering two things.

1)  Could anyone tell me which TD albums are more "melodic" and less "spacey?"
I remember there was a discussion here about an evolution of TD's music.  Was
there a time when it was more melodic (less spacey, I mean... though melodic
and spacey are not necessarily opposites...)

2)  If anyone wants a brand new, once-used CD of Alpha Centauri, let me
know.  $10 including shipping.  First e-mail first serve.

Thanks for any help with the TD stuff.
 
-- 
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PO Box 520 Yale Station            2)   korrusj@yalevm.bitnet
New Haven CT  06520-0520           3)   korrusj@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
From: lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Deja Vu and Music (was Something other than Enya)
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:18:49 GMT

In <1992Apr6.110254.26365@cs.tcd.ie> scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins) writes:

>This is so true.  I can't listen to Heaven & Hell without thinking of
>The last book in the Thomas Covenant series, or vice versa.  I also
>associate a lot of music with specific events eg: Oldfield's Five Miles
>Out album and travelling between Burnham and Slough on my daily trip to
>work one summer, and Jarre's Revolutions and leaving the UK to go home
>at the end of a summer holiday.  Can't listen to them without this
>incredible sense of deja vu.

I'm like that.  Five Miles Out goes with getting my first computer
flight sim program, also Mike Oldfield's "Discovery" album takes me
right back to being on holiday in Blackpool and reading "The Tenant
of Wildfell Hall" by Anne Bronte.  (You should definitely do this;
"Discovery" and "The Tenant ..." go very well together.)

Also, if anyone has (a) the Discovery album and (b) a video of "Flight
of the Navigator" they should put the track "The Lake" on and turn
the sound down on the video during one of the high velocity flight
scenes.  These were made for each other!

:-)
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From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta)
Subject: Enya
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:46:22 GMT

Enya will be on the last 1/2 hour of Good Morning America, USA 
Thursday, April 16, 1992. 

Information courtesy Reprise Records Publicity Dept. via Matt
Heargraves. 
-- 
-Dave datta@cs.uwp.edu.
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From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: New Age/Christian Survey -Help!
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:35:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.6nrjr=c.lllowen
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In reference to new age music being associated with new age religion...

In article <eoLwiB5w164w@jab.tucson.az.us> 
stevea@jab.tucson.az.us (Steve Albany) writes:
>        I'm one of those who is quick to point out that the music form 
>predates the term NEW AGE by well over 15 years. And while I'm a Buddhist, I 
>see no connection between the two.

There is no connection between the two.  Simply greedy marketers calling
something such to make money.
--

-Lon   (lllowen@netcom.com)
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From: judym@col.hp.com (Judy Miller)
Subject: Re: A few thoughts on a few albums...
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:57:08 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
> In article <1992Apr8.114350.6453@qiclab.scn.rain.com> al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman) writes:
> >Try Eric Tingstad & Nancy Rundel's new album, "In the Garden".  SUPER.
> >Had us dancing around.  
> 
> Since Jean luc Ponty has been mentioned a couple of times recently as
> a newage artist (I disagree with that classification) I thought I'd
> mention that his most recent album "Tchokola" (sp?) is about as danceable
> as you can get.  The album is all western african dance rhythms.  It's all
> fun, makes you feel good stuff.

I read so many poor reviews that I steered away from this album.  
Some of his stuff I don't enjoy.
I like Ponty's Mystical Adventures the best, which is probably is most
melodic and accessible.

I love African rhythms ... I'm wondering if "Tchokola" is something I'd
enjoy.

Judy
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From: garrick@pygmy.owlnet.rice.edu (Garrick F. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: How many "Tour de France"'s are there?
Organization: Rice University Cycling Team
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:43:11 GMT

In article <freshair.702871598@vincent1.iastate.edu>, freshair@iastate.edu (James W Gregory) writes:
> How many versions of John Tesh's "Tour de France" album(s) are there?
> I've seen and/or heard at least two or three.  When were they
> released?  Which ones are the best?  Is this an ongoing project of
> his?
> 


Answer: Three.

You don't have to look far to find "Tour de France"(Private, 1988) or
"Tour de France--The Early Years"(Private, 1990).  These albums contain
some decent synth music that has been used by CBS in its coverage of
the TdF up until 1988 and by NBC during the (now defunct) Tour de Trump
in 1990.

What most people DON'T know is that Tesh has been writing music for the
Tour de France since at least 1985, when he was a commentator during
the Tour (and a darned good one, too!).  His 1990 album, "...Early Years",
in fact, contains some extremely embellished re-makes of some of these
tracks: Shock, Stone Dead Weasel(?--Haven't looked in a while), and
ESPECIALLY Headclobbers.  The originals for these pieces were raw
(synths only, no sampling, no orchestra...) and REALLY powerful.  It's
awesome stuff!!!

Here's the catch--The old stuff was released in '86 or '87 ON CASSETTE
ONLY, is called "Music From the Tour de France--Vol. 1", and was only
sold for a little while through Bike Nashbar, a mail-order house for
cycling equipment and clothing.

Unfortunately, I don't recall the record company, since my copy was
stolen along with the rest of my car.  B'P

If you know an avid cyclist, ask if he has the Tour de France (on CBS) on 
tape from 1986-88 to hear this music.  By the way, this is where I first 
heard Yanni.  His earlier works go very will with bike racing!!!

NOTE: Rumor has it that Tesh is doing NBC's music for the Summer Olympics
in Barcelona.  Watch for a new album sometime this summer!


Garrick Mitchell
President, Rice U. Cycling Team
garrick@owlnet.rice.edu
From: gibson@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (William Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: This Mortal Coil on the 4AD label
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:18:35 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

> Clarification:  This Mortal Coil is a project which features various members
> from 4AD bands--they are not static by any means, because they switch from
> song to song let alone from album to album =) but there ARE some characters
> who appear more than others, say Simon Raymonde (from the Cocteaus).

Actually, there are "members" in the band (sorry I don't have the
names at the moment), Simon is not one of them, although he did appear
on I'll End In Tears and several 12"s.  Most of the non-members are
or were 4AD people and TMC is sometimes mistaken as an in-house band.
I suggest reading the insert in the Lonely is an Eyesore compilation.


> There are indeed three albums out to this point, "It'll End In Tears",
> "Filigree and Shadow", and "Blood".  "Tears" features the classic "Song
> to the Siren" with Elizabeth Fraser on vocals.  There's also Big Star cover
> songs on this one.  "Filigree" is a bit longer and my favorite of the bunch,
> really dark and introspective (not like the first was a walk in the park).
> "Blood" is the newest and most varied of the bunch.  I dunno how well it
> sticks together as an ALBUM, but it's wonderful anyway.

I agree whole-heartedly, get then all!  I suggest CD's, at least for F&S
and Blood.  I have the vinyl version of F&S and it really gets annoying
to flip/switch the records.

my $0.02
Bill Gibson
From: wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William R Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re:    How Many Enya Fans Out There - To Many (sic)
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:38:34 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <10702296.8@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> you write:
>In article <1992Mar27.141435.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> tvernoncf@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>
>>The subject line is plainly illiterate:
>
>>Subject: Re:    How Many Enya Fans Out There - To Many
>>                                          
>I'm 20, I love rap and funk, I've got nearly all the clannad albums and I 
>think that Enya is pretty dang good!  How about that!
>

Damn!  She has her own newsgroup, but she _still_ keeps coming
back!!!  Shoo!  Go away! 


--The Rook
  <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

 " 'Be true, Unbeliever.' "
     --Stephen Donaldson, _Lord Foul's Bane_
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: A few thoughts on a few albums...
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:29:45 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <rt4bjINNdn3@agate.berkeley.edu> mas@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mason Wong) writes:
|I splurged yesterday and bought some CDs:
|
|Don Harriss - "Elevations"
|Michael Jones - "Morning in Medonte"
|Enya - "Shephard Moons"
|Tangerine Dream - "Canyon Dreams"
|
|(and a couple rock singles...)
|
|My initial opinions after listening to them all twice:
|
|Don Harriss - I bought the album because I heard the title
|track played on Greg Stone's radio show Stonetrek on
|98.5 KOME during the jazz fusion segment.  It was a nice
|instrumental with a lead jazz piano melody over a repetitive
|synth pattern.  Unfortunately, I found the rest of the album
|very weak and unimaginative.  Even as background music,
|the synth tones and melodies were boring.

Greg tends to do that.  I have known Greg Stone since 1973 and was in the
studio during his first broadcast of Stone Trek.  There were quite a
few selections that he played that were the only good tracks on the album.
In some cases the track was not representative of the album at all.  I 
find this true of radio in general.  The local newage^H^H^H adult contemporary
station will play the same cut by the same obscure artist quite a bit.  It`s
hard to tell if that cut is representative of the rest of the album.  That
is where we come in.  If you hear something that you like on the radio you
can always ask about it here.  Someone probably has the album and can
describe it to you and just more importantly to the rest of us.

>Unfortunately, none of the music I picked up was as riveting
>as Vangelis's "Direct" or as moving as Peter Gabriel's "Passion."
>Can anyone suggest some CDs which has some "big sounding"
>new age music?  Somewhat like a movie soundtrack, but synth
>oriented and has good energy throughout.  Sorry, Yanni is out for me.
 
You mean "newage with balls" as it's been described here.  Which albums by
Yanni have you heard?  Some of it is more big sounding than others.  Have
you heard David Arkenstones "Wake of the Wind"?
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From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta)
Subject: Re: dead can dance - lyrics, enthusiam
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:50:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.173446.26357@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pauld@cs.washington.edu (Paul Barton-Davis) writes:
>Who *is* John Francis Dooley ? What century do the lyrics to "Fortune
>distributes (...)" come from ("because in a village a poor lad has
>stolen one hen", etc) ? What, in general, is the inspiration for DCD's
>lyrics ? 

First off, you can get lyrics from this site (cs.uwp.edu) in the directory
/pub/music/lyrics/files/dead.can.dance

Fortune Presents Gifts Not According To The Book, is a poem by Luis De
Gongora, it is from the 15th Century (I believe).

DCD seems to be looking for ancient music, the ideas and music is
getting progressively earlier in its origin.
-- 
-Dave datta@cs.uwp.edu.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: freshair@iastate.edu (James W Gregory)
Subject: Re: John Tesh's Tour De France album
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:46:00 GMT

In <siba4INNsl9@agate.berkeley.edu> tccheng@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tsai-Chu Cheng) writes:


>After reading a follow netter's review I rushed out to get this album
>(1988 version).  After listening to it I didn't think it was that great.
>The music is less upbeat and inspirational than Yanni's stuff.

>Is the 1990 version (The Early Years) smilar to his 1988 release, in
>terms of "inspirationalability"?  Comments please.  Thanks.

No.  I hate to disappoint you, but the cuts I've heard from the 1988
version (on various Private Music samplers) were superO, to the 1990
the 1990 version (i.e. The Early Years), which I had bought by
mistake one time in the past.

-Jim  
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From: William R Thompson <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Re: ## What is "HEARTS OF SPACE" ##
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:40:03 GMT

In article <68730037@col.hp.com> you write:
>
>I really like the Narada label, but haven't tried any "space" music from
>Hearts of Space.  What's the "best"?
>
>Judy

I would really reccomend trying out a Hearts of Space label,
and if you can, tune in to the radio program.  As for suggestions,
I would listen to "Spinfield" (Steve McDonald) and "Starflight 1"
(Various).  I have both of these, and listen to them several
times a week.

BTW, Hearts of Space is also great for meditation.... 

--William Thompson
  <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

 " 'Be true, Unbeliever.' "
     --Stephen Donaldson, _Lord Foul's Bane_
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: A few thoughts on a few albums...
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:07:31 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <rt4bjINNdn3@agate.berkeley.edu> mas@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mason Wong) writes:
>I splurged yesterday and bought some CDs:
>
[stuff deleted]  
>
>Unfortunately, none of the music I picked up was as riveting
>as Vangelis's "Direct" or as moving as Peter Gabriel's "Passion."
>Can anyone suggest some CDs which has some "big sounding"
>new age music?  Somewhat like a movie soundtrack, but synth
>oriented and has good energy throughout.  Sorry, Yanni is out for me.
>

 got something a couple of months ago that fits that bill.  Go try
"Mind's Eye" by (I think his name is) James Reynolds.  It's from a short
film of computer animation.  Some of it is rather commercial, but on the
whole its very enjoyable.  There are a couple of passages that really
grab me just every time.  Very "big sounding", as best I can interpret
that phrase.


>
>===============================================================================
>Mason Wong
>Center for EUV Astrophysics   University of California at Berkeley
>mas@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu     mcw@ocf.berkeley.edu    128a-1ae@web.berkeley.edu
>===============================================================================


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Brookhaven National Laboratory     "Home of the Big BNL Burger."	
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: Where can I find good atmospheric (background) music?
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:34:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.101157.7649@news.Hawaii.Edu> kevinh@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Kevin 'Kev' Hughes) writes:
>        The header says it all. I'm looking for long, instrumental pieces
>with a lot of mood, something I can relax, meditate, or fall asleep to.
>(Or post here. :) ) Sadly, I don't have much experience with music of this
>type, but I'm looking for pieces that resemble "Dawn" or "Twilight" from
>Vangelis' "The City". Or, even better yet, his "Memories of Green", my
>favorite.
>        I've heard some great similar stuff by Brian Eno and Harold (? -begins
>with an H) Pinter (? - begins with a P?), but I find it very hard to obtain any
>of his earlier works. I'd very much like to find albums like this on compact
>disc if possible.

Generally, you're right on with Eno.  If you're looking to fall asleep
to soothing new age synth stuff, try Eno's "The Pearl", or better yet
"Thursady Afternoon".  Thursday Afternoon is 1 hour of uninterrupted
backgound music.  It evokes a "floating" feeling for me.  It also
reminds me of staring non-stop into an aquarium and watching fish lazily
swim. (How's that for personal imagery?)

Also:  how about Vangelis' "Creation du Monde" from the album
"Apocalypse des Animeaux".  Put that 10 min track on the CD player on
infinite repeat, get comfy, and I gaurantee that you won't be awake for
long.

"Desert Solitaire" (by Stearns, Braheny and Roach) and "Dreamtime
Return" (Roach alone) is also extremely relaxing "atmosphere" music. 

That ought to keep you going at the loacl record shop for a while.




> 
>                -- Kevin Hughes
>
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From: croftj@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Ray Lynch
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:20:04 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

> No Blue Thing is merely Deep Breakfast in disguise.  I enjoyed DB when
> it first came out in '86 (?) and I was interested in hearing his
> follow-up effort.  When I listened to NBT and discovered that it was DB
> all over again, I got a little turned off to Mr. Lynch.  I think that he
> suffers from what is known as "Yanni's Disease".

I disagree. I think "No Blue Thing" is quite a bit better than "Deep
Breakfast." Yes, Ray Lynch has a distinctive style, as does any musician, but
they certainly aren't the same album or in some way copies of each other...

                                  Jeff Croft
croftj@yvax.byu.edu
From: korins-russ@CS.YALE.EDU (Russ Korins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Yanni's "In Celebration of Life"
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:32:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr10.183210.6006
Distribution: na
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158

In response to Mark...

If you're going to have the attitude, "if you don't like it, don't listen...
or write your own," what is the purpose of discussing music at all?  Maybe
we should cancel this newsgroup, because, gee, why would ANYONE want to know
someone else's opinions-- good or bad-- about music?

This is not a matter of snobbery.  All I wanted to know was whether people
agreed with me, or if they didn't, why.  I was hoping to learn something
about Yanni's music from people who may look at it from a different
perspective.  Unfortunately, answers such as Mark's don't help.

  
-- 
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PO Box 520 Yale Station            2)   korrusj@yalevm.bitnet
New Haven CT  06520-0520           3)   korrusj@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
From: sheart@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Saltheart Foamfollowe)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: David Lanz (Wilmington, DE)
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:22:50 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)838-0220


 
Well.. I drove the 500+ miles to see David Lanz in Wilmington, 
Delaware... the concert was worth every minute of the drive!  I would 
definitely do it again at a moment's notice.
 
The show was excellent, with him playing many selections from 'Return to 
the Heart', 'Heartsounds', 'Nightfall', 'Skyline Firedance', and 
'Cristofori's Dream'.  He also did a medly of about 10 minutes that 
consisted of his favorite selections from the past 7 albums.

Hearing his music has always been a great experience for me, but seeing 
him play it just confirmed how much of himself he puts in to the music.  
It was also a great touch to hear in his own words the things that 
inspired a particular song, as well as his personal philosophies.  (I did 
get the impression that the only reason he calls his music 'New Age' is 
because that that's what his record company calls it, and he doesn't want 
to come to be at odds with them.. he was making quite a few New Age 
cracks throughout the show).
 
For his encore (instant standing ovation, by the way), he came out, put 
on a pair of dark sunglasses, and proceeded to break with style and 
*really* ham it up doing jazz and blues 'honky tonk' type stuff.  It was 
really great!  And, he even sounds like a natural for that style too!  He 
then settled down again and did another piece from Skyline Firedance.
 
His sense of humor is really refreshing, and I was glad to see that he is 
nowhee near as serious and reserved as I imagined him to be.  I also had 
the added benefit of walking right past him on the street in Wilmington 
several hours before the show.  I was really tempted to call out his name 
and try to engage him in a little conversation, but I wasn't sure if he 
would mind being bothered, so I just passed up the opportunity.  Damn.  
I've been kicking myself ever since....
 
And yes... there was a Kodak moment for us in Wilmington too... slightly 
different form, but it was still entertaining...
 
Al in all, if you like his music, or any solo piano for that matter, and 
ave the opportunity, I really encourage you to go see him!
 

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