From: gt7994a@prism.gatech.EDU (ORMOND,SEAN PATRICK)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Why I think I'll vote for Clinton Clause
Date: 17 Oct 92 04:19:45 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct16.223740.5497@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>In article <71536@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6367c@prism.gatech.EDU (DEAL, DOUGLAS WAYNE) writes:
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>[usual silliness deleted]
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>>Also please note when the economy went south, very very close tot he time
>>Georgie broke his no new taxes pledge.  What does that tell you.
>
>Nope.  Recession started summer of '90.  They didn't come to a budget
>deal until, what, October '90?

Well, I'm impressed that you can so accurately pinpoint an event as
subtle as the beginning of a recession.  Elizabeth, can you tell me
what happened in YOUR LIFE during the summer of '90 that indicated
a recession was impending?  Let's just ignore the deleterious effects
of the media and talk about personal damage caused by this "horrible"
economy.  If not for the negativism spread by the journalists, I wouldn't
have given it a second thought.  In fact there was a discussion on a 
news/talk show recently which featured several liberal columnists from major
cities around the country.  They were each asked how the recession hit
their city.  Almost every one of them responded something to the effect
that "well...it didn't hit OUR city that bad, but public opinion was low!"
Of course, this is the same "public" which (according to a recent survey)
thinks that unemployment is TWICE as bad as it really is and can't even
define the word "deficit"!  I would have asked them WHY public opinion
was so low?  What was the mechanism for their misconception?  Hmm...?

Anyway, my initial question was considered so "profound" when it was
presented to the candidates in the last debate, I was wondering what
your response was to it?  Mine follows in an article I posted a week or
so ago:
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I saw a cartoon the other day that, IMHO, rather accurately portrays 
the Democratic point of view:

Two politicians standing together, looking out their office window:
One says, "Just think... the economy in the toilet... unemployment 
skyrocketing... the environment gone to hell-in-a-handbasket... 
crime overtaking our streets... drugs... despair... hopelessness..."

Next cell cuts to exterior of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY HEADQUARTERS, 
looking in at the two:
The other responds, "It just doesn't get any better than this."

When Bush's popularity was so high during the Gulf War, it was 
almost a given he would be re-elected.  But then...we become one
of the most destitute countries in the world!  We plunge into this 
terrible recession - no, DEPRESSION - and we're facing "economic 
catastrophe".  There's massive unemployment and the media never 
misses an opportunity to film hundreds of people standing in line for 
a few new jobs at the local brewery.  Industry has forced us into an 
"ecological nightmare" and we'll be lucky to survive into the 21st 
century.  How can we do this to our children, they ask...it's all 
Bush's fault!  

This is the hoax that the liberals have foisted upon the public via 
the media.  If not for the liberal journalists and reporters, I would 
think we were living in the finest age in history.  At the height 
(depth?) of the recession/depression I had two jobs with every 
conceivable benefit, my girlfriend had a job, my mother's business 
was booming, and even my brother (a high school drop-out) had a 
job - hell, everyone I knew had a job!  Our standard of living has 
never been higher: VCRs, laserdiscs, stereo TVs, cellular telephones, 
EVERYTHING!  The simple fact that you can respond to this post 
indicates that you either have a job, you're pursuing a college 
education, or you can afford a home computer.  

When our local team won the division, they began selling play-off 
tickets only over the phone.  They figured that for every 4000+ 
people who tried to call, 1 got a ticket.  Again - for every person 
that got a ticket, over 3,999 tried to get one but couldn't!  These 
tickets could ONLY be purchased with a credit card, BTW.  Anyone care 
to explain how, in the midst of such economic strife, so many people 
can afford such a frivolity as an expensive ticket to a baseball game?  
Furthermore, when the cable rates get too high, do people 
cancel...hell no!  They bitch and whine until the government steps in 
and lowers the price.  These are just a few simple examples, but it
appears to me that income is not down - people just can't afford to 
live the way they THINK they deserve to live.

Over the past year or so, it's just scared the hell out of me that over 
half of our government can do absolutely nothing but BENEFIT from 
all our misery and despair!  All their manipulative scheming will 
pay off when you vote for Clinton in November, thinking he's your 
last hope.
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Sean P. Ormond
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Bill Clinton '92 - "Read my lips: NEW TAXES"
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