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From: jbarret2@willamette.edu (James Barrett)
Subject: Re: CATS: Already? The 2nd Annual New Jack Hip Hop Awards
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:10:27 GMT

	I'm lookin forward to see who takes the loot in this years 
awards,but can the winners of the First Annual New Jack Hip Hop Awards 
be posted?

	Also, sorry about the earlier posts, Jackson Five specifically.  
I was going to say that a soundtrack for the miniseries that was on
tell-lie-vision this week is coming out.  It is supposed to have old shit,
some concert footage, SUPPOSEDLY some unreleased shit and a couple of 
remakes by new jacks, ie. Boyz II Men.  Don't know when it's gonna drop
though.


							J Bee
						"The devil is anti-human,
					    who the hell are you?"
							-The Almighty 
							     KRS One
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Phife Dog
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:20:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

Hey...

I dont really care too much for Phife myself, but I must admit that he did
some improving...I never liked his voice too much, but on the latest album,
he gets to drop rhymes of substance, that sound kinda cool, I mean, look at
the last album, his lines were wack, on "Can I Kick it..."...layers...right
now Phife is a poem sayer" and "Ham and eggs"...They were all weak...but I
give him the props, he did improve. I just hope that this doesnt mean that
we can expect more tracks with Phife doing the lead rap...Tip is the one with
the fly voice...

                                                             RJ
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Subject: Re: TOUR INFO
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:19:55 GMT

In article <of1yUKC00awXE90F10@andrew.cmu.edu>, Otis Jerome Greene <og22+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>check it-
>
>            does anybody know if CYPRESS HILL or ICE CUBE is comin on
>tour anywhere in the pittsburgh/baltimore/DC area anytime in the near
>future??? and is it true that Ice Cube and B real have or are doin a song
>together???
>

I don't know about just the two of them together, but they both appear on the
"Get The Fist" 12".

>                                                                        
>                                             -og

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:14:17 -0500 
From: Olayinka Kolawole <Hotsauce+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Ice Cube, Wicked is whack!
	<1992Nov21.221226.15177@news2.cis.umn.edu>

None of *our* bizness writes...........(in refrence to the song WICKED)

    I thought it was raw too.  If it didn't have that STUPID ASS reggae shit in
>the background, it'd be top notch.  Somebody need to light dudes ass
>up, flame on...till that jheri curl is gone.

YO, YOU 'BUGGIN...THAT SHIT IS FAT......

Ay yo....I aint gonna front, I never really liked ICE CUBE cos he seemed
to be just another muddafucka trying to be hard....but chill...he came
correct on wicked and the reggae joint that was thrown in there is a
sign of the times

   *hip hop reggae* is catchin' on, especially here on the East coast,
i.e NY,DC,PHILLY etc....you can hardly go to a party w/o grindin and
boging so yo don't sleep...that reggae shit gits you hype............



Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: ReDmAn..?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:13:42 GMT

In article <1dm2cdINNdrt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> der2@po.CWRU.Edu (David E. Rives) writes:
>
>I am listening to Redman right now...
>I picked up the disc about one week ago and I have been listening to
>	it for a while..
>AND IT DOES not IMPRESS ME ALL THAT MUCH...
>
>I think that the boy does have skills, don't get me wrong, but after 
>about 3 or 4 EPMD albums, I can't take another hit squad member, 
>especially since this one doesn't really have his own style..
>
>The question that I have for all of the REDMAN fans... is that are
>they really fans of REDMAN, or are they fans of EPMD and the general
>hit squad style..??? I mean, when I play this CD, I can't tell who
>I am listening to. The whole thing sounds like I am either hearing
>Parish Smith, Eric Sermon, or this Redman guy... I just need a hitsquad
>release... 

Well, I don't listen to a lot of EPMD, except for a few of their hits, 
basically, so I wouldn't know too much about the Hit Squad sound.  That's
why some of this album's beats appealed to me just by how funky some of 
them were.  Redman does say some fucked up things on the album, but his
whole hook is that he was dropped on his head as a kid and is all messed up
in the head for that reason.  Granted, he does go overboard at times, but
it's a pretty strong debut, IMHO.

>Granted, he does have some good beats, clean production job, but it 
>sounds like Parrish's little brother, plus I think that there are a
>lot of cameos.. by EPMD (I guess) which kinda belabors the whole 
>thing. I was wondering why I could pick this up for $11 at a used
>CD shop... 
>
>FINAL VERDICT::::
>
>The album is not all that hot. Right after it was released, this board
>was boiling hot, talking about how great this guy was, I went out and 
>bought this.. If any of you would like this, then let me know..
>I don't like a Rated R-EPMD impersonator... 

Funny, but that was my favorite track next to "Blow Your Mind."

>Tell him to get his own style....
>Tell him to get his own beats....
>Tell him to get another "funk flow"

Tell him to leave the Hit Squad after he made a hit LP.  "Not gonna do it..."

>I'm out like a
>"black man at a white woman's funeral" 
>
>David E. Rives 
>(der2@po.cwru.edu)
-- 
- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
- Blue Riddle Productions ------------ *RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE *
- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ----- *David J.'s debut 12" single          *
- Sports Editor/Indiana Daily Stupid - *ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions*
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.)
Subject: Re: House of Pain
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:21:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.183759.29568@reed.edu> terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight) writes:
>In article <balbondj.721931523@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Dah Man) writes:
>> Is House Of Pain West Coast or East Coast?  I know Everlast was West Coast,
>> but I am just curious if the relocated to the east.  I Yo Saturday they had
>> HOP on, and they expalined there connection with Cypress Hill (Soul Assains)
>> but they were in New York and it seems that they may have relocated.
>
>
>L.A. still claims them as their own.  They talk like they're from Brooklyn,
>but really they're from the Valley.  My roommate tells me Danny Boy used to
>be in a white skinhead gang up there.  Was a real racist asshole at one point,
>so my impression is that these guys are total hypocrites.  Does anybody know what
are you sure the skinhead "gang" that he hung out with was racist.  not
all are. 
>song refers to "Mickey Mouse Club"?  Apparently that's another local gang.  
>
>Of course this is all hearsay and may be total crap, I'll check it again with
>my roommate before I promise it's all true.  
>
>Terra
>
-jon
(The anointed nubian)
From: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: the new issue of THE SOURCE
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:47:20 GMT
Reply-To: ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov12.032324.810@wam.umd.edu>, travgod@next07wor.wam.umd.edu (Double-Stuff Oreo) writes:
>{I just got the December '92 issue in the mail and haven't had a chance to  
>read the articles yet, but i still wanted to drop some info on what  
>everyone can expect from this issue...}
>
>
>RECORD REPORT:{*****=hip-hop classic
>	       *=totally wack}
>
>	Positive K "The Skills Dat Pay Da Bills" ****
>
>THE SOURCE SYSTEM:
>     BEST BUYS-
>	Positive K "The Skills Dat Pay Da Bills"
>     FAT TAPE-
>	"How The F*?#! Would You Know" Positive K

Just like to say, I listened to the Positive K album again (while playing a
little Madden '92 on my Sega Genesis) and it sounded *much* better the second
time around!  There were only two songs I could not get into at all.  The rest
of the album was good, but be warned, Pos K drops a different style than most
may be used to on some tracks and may make you feel the way I did when you
first hear it.  But on, "How The F*?#! Would You Know," Positive comes off
*very* strong.  This song is all that and then some.

                                              T-Dub
                                              SHYGUY Productions
Organization: Freshman, IM - Graphic Communications, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:55:46 -0500 
From: Otis Jerome Greene <og22+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:CATS:dance categorie

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:34:10 -0500 
From: Olayinka Kolawole <Hotsauce+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: CATS: Already? The 2nd Annual New Jack Hip Hop Awards
 
YO!!!!
           I've want to nominate "best dancers" as a category.  This
does not have to include the specific names of the dancers but artists
and video can be cited....so y'all second me on this.....
                                            ...act like you know..
                                                ..The Flavor kid

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-

check it-

           about a dance categorie:

    "i don't wanna see no dancin'-i'm sick o' that sh-t
      listen to the hit! Cause yo if i look and see another
      brother on the video tryin to outdance each other, I'm
      goin tell T-bone to pass the paddle..."
                                  
                                                     -Ice Cube
                                                   *the nigga ya love to hate*
     
is this a RAP bboard or a dance bboard? 

                                             "F-ck R&B and the running man"

                                                                     -og

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat)
Subject: Re: ReDmAn..?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:07:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.050352.7643@ultb.isc.rit.edu>  
ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92) writes:
} Though, I have a feeling I will be picking it up *very* soon 
} anyway since I can't play Mary J. Blige but so much more...
} 
}                                      T-Dub
}                                 SHYGUY Productions

DAMN, _Reminisce_  IS ALL THAT!!!

Donald - It's time for some action!
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.)
Subject: Re: Phife Dog
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:56:27 GMT

In article <0f430mC00iV0Q4qHN2@andrew.cmu.edu> John Richard Murphy <jm82+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>         I still don't give Phife props on the mic: 
>            What do you mean?  Phife is "all that and then some" I love
>his voice, his style of flow, and his ryhmes.  You can't front on the
>did-dog
fo' real.  he complements Tip PERFECTLY.  he's a little high-strung, &
tip's mellow.  they couldnt do without each other (o.k. maybe so, but
they *do* sound good together)
>
>>         "I just try my best to like go all out/ 
>>          some might even say yo shorty black you're buggin out."
>> 
>>                                                   - from "Buggin' Out" 
>        I guess everyone has their own opinion, but I love that line, it
>finishes up first rhyme he busts in the song perfectly
again, gotta agree. did-dogs been in there from the start.  anyway, you
don't worry about the rap too much anyway, 'cause quest is so hard, it
doesn't matter (kind of like jimmy hendricks; he cant sing to save his
life, but some of his stuff is just dope! (no pun intended))
>                                                   
>                                                Peace,
>
>                                                        John
shalom,
jon, the anointed nubian
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 11:33:04 CST
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Kool Moe Dee Retiring?

Is Kool Moe Dee supposed to be retiring?  The word is that the IRS snatched
everything he owns, and he's supposed to be too embarrassed to make an appear-
ance in Hip Hop.  If he does retire, it would be a shame, because he is one of
the best old-schoolers of all time, and, in most cases, he has updated his
style to keep up with the competition.  Now if only DJ Premier could have done
his "retirement album"... :)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Subject: Re: Ice Cube, Wicked is whack!
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:13:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.185236.15013@uts.cc.wayne.edu>, delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge) writes:
>
>>In article <d1dol.721566617@dtek.chalmers.se> d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm) writes:
>>>I bought the 12" single 'Wicked' by Ice Cube the other day,
>>>Although I like most of his older stuff this one I must say
>>>is totally whack-crap.
>>>the B-side is better though, It's not up to normal Ice Cube standard though..
>>>
>>>Just my opinion....
>>
>>Well my opinion is almost the opposite.  I think wicked is one of the
>>nastiest cuts Ice Cube has done.  I think for the third time he will have
>>in my opinion album of the year (Although Sex and Violence may take it if
>>The Predator isn't dope, but I doubt it).
>>
>>Just my opinion...!
>>Peace 
>>KSG
>>
>>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Fredrik Lundholm           DDD    OO   L   
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~           D  D  O  O  L   - RECORDS         
>>>d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se     DDD    OO   LLLL   
>>>Contact me about "Droppin Knowledge"/"Shut em Down" 12"!!!!      DOL-EP-1
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>

I must have missed the original post, but my opinion is exactly the opposite. 
As anyone that knows me will tell you, I am a very relaxed brother, but if this
song or this video comes on, I just go off.  I am not the biggest Ice Cube fan
in the world, but being a "half-fan" and hearing this song, Ill get his album,
even though I heard the B-side cut and thought it wasn'T all that.


K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: travgod@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Double-Stuff Oreo)
Subject: Trespass {was Re: Ice-T}
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:16:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.231036.10737@sbcs.sunysb.edu>  
rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:
> Hey...
> 
> I just read on the list that the soundtrack to Tresspass(The Ice  
Cube/Ice T 
> movie) was dropping this week...does anyone know what artists are  
supposed to 
> be on it?? Can we expect new material from Cube an T(other than the  
tracks
> that are supposed to be on their latest efforts)??
> 
{Ok, let's see what I can remeber:}

Ice T & Ice Cube are together for the title track....
Ice T has another track on there featuring a new artist with a reggae  
stylee...
There are also tracks from Lord Finesse, Penthouse Players Clique, Black  
Sheep, Gangstarr, Donald D, AMG & two or three other artists I can't  
remember right now...
All-n-all, the album is worth getting.
IMHO, the Black Sheep track is the one you should check out.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Sade
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:20:49 GMT

Hey...

I know this isnt really related to hip hop, but I just thought youd like to
know that Sade is going to be the musical guest on Saturday Nite Live this
weekend...

                                                      RJ
From: v081jwnc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MC Flexible Flyer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Phife Dog
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:44:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Af48agq00iV1M7XHY0@andrew.cmu.edu>, Hotsauce+@CMU.EDU (Olayinka Kolawole) writes...
>Yo I had to throw in some loot........
> 
>    Phife and ATCQ aint all the way live and sometimes I wonder what
>brothers see in them... to me they are very drowsy, they tend to sound
>lazy....now they sound a'ight but they don't make no sense ...in other
>words they are not POETIC...

I disagree.  To me, their sound on the Low End Theory is hype.  It has 
much jazz, (the  more the better) and some intelligent lyrics.  The 
production is excellent, and Tip and Phife are fine rappers, although 
Phife's voice is a little weird, it is still one of the best groups 
around.

>EXAMPLE any verse/lyric/rhyme from HOT SEX... somebody explain to me
>what they are saying...

I'll agree on this one, to me it seemed that they spend ten minutes 
recording that song.  I could have DJ'd that one (don't flame me, it 
was just an exargaration *) ).

...remember back in the days when they was on
>the *daisy age* tip...now all of a sudden they want to be hard.. if
>anyone ever catches the video for "BUDDY" again, you fuckin die laughin
>at how Q-Tip looks.......

And the rest of the Native Tounge.  Dove is crazy looking, and Monie 
Love looks like she is 16 years old.  A very excellent blast from the 
past.




Yo, ring the alarm,
William

Quote of the afternoon:
  If we can risk nuclear war, we can risk disarmament.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: c162-du@po.berkeley.edu (bishwaroop ganguly)
Subject: LP of the year
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:09:12 GMT

      You would nominate... Who? Please don't leave us hanging like that,
money. As for me I would have to agree that Sex and Violence is the album of
the year, but then again, every year since '86 I have said that BDP has had
album of the year (except '87, '91). If BDP record sales are going down, it 
only proves that ignorance (i.e. Sex and Violence) sells, intelligence
does not. Everyone with a favorite rapper should be glad KRS taught them 
their style.
                  
                                                -Roop
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Malcolm X soundtrack (was Re: Whatever happened to....)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:26:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.075835.9922@ultb.isc.rit.edu> K-Mello writes:
>As far as Chuck wearing a crucifix, I don't
>know what the crucifix means to Chuck, or why he wears it, but maybe it does
>not symbolize to him what you think it does, or for that matter what it should
>represent, if anyone can say what it should represent, EXACTLY.  

"Crucifixion ain't no fiction.
 Some call chosen frozen.
 Apologies made to whomever pleases.
 Still they got me like Jesus."

				- "Welcome to the Terrordome"

I just thought of those lines when I saw the word crucifix.  Maybe that has
something to do with why Chuck wears one.

>K-Mello
>SHYGUY Productions '92
-- 
- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
- Blue Riddle Productions ------------ *RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE *
- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ----- *David J.'s debut 12" single          *
- Sports Editor/Indiana Daily Stupid - *ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions*
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:34:39 -0500 
From: Olayinka Kolawole <Hotsauce+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: FLEX & Mad Cobra
	<1992Nov23.014439.10307@athena.mit.edu>

Yo chill y'all,
    don't sleep on Flex 'cos it aint something you can do the Runnin'
man to...yo the joint got flavor, it not a *rap* song, if y'all ever hit
the party scene or the club scene you would realize that it is a very
popular song...all the skins rush out to wine when the 'ting comes on...
word to life, Reggae is catchin on...so yo! Don't sleep...

                                                   ..ghost!
                                                        ..Sauce
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: ROXANNE SHANTE
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:23:58 GMT
Organization: me myself and i

Hotsauce+@CMU.EDU (Olayinka Kolawole) expresses surprise:
:
|Yo  I was just wondering if anybody caugth her album?....my man said he
|aint gonna buy it because G Rap, Granddaddy IU, and Large Professor
|wrote her shit.....is this true???????
|             If it is I aint even trying to hear that...if emcees start
|getting their shit written for them then that destroys the first
|criteria for hip hop [...]

Shante has never written all of her lyrics. Shan used to write for her
back in the days. It's no surprise.

Tx. [Shan. Shante. Coincidence or conspiracy? Dot dot ditty...]
-- 
Tim F O'Donoghue <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <uunet!canon!tim>
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 15:46:57 EST
From: Madison J. Gray <34LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Malcolm X - Don't be IGNORANT
Distribution: world

Yo Marko,
That was a groovy message that I'm sure we all can learn from. But what exactly
 do you mean by "Black Supremacy?" There are some factions who are pro
black but I've never heard of a `black supremacist' movement. Could you name
some so that maybe some intelligent brother can do research into this topic.
 PEACE----
           Joeski Love
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:29:45 -0500 
From: Olayinka Kolawole <Hotsauce+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: PE,IceT & H.O.P. and other shit
	<1992Nov19.175638.136658@zeus.calpoly.edu>

Kang Su writes in some article......

    Is it just me wondering, but how did Everlast go from being this Italian
>Maffioso in the syndicate to the ultimate Irishman.  Did I miss something
>or is just finding a good race to get paid?  Hmmm....
> 
>Kang Su Gatlin

See if you agree with me on this....Everlast is a'ight, whether he is
Irish, Italian or fucking monkey...and the fact that he glorifies his
ethnicity is something we should admire because that is something that
most wannabes won't do in their struggle to be "black",  this to me is
one of the easiest ways to cross the color barrier.... be proud of your
culture and of who you are,people will respect you for that, I damn sure
am and why shouldn't anyone else be? (I'm Nigerian by the
way)...Everlast has remained true to both his peeps and to hip-hop,so
'nuff respect due!
    In short, don't look at him as using it to get loot, 'cos a lot
emcees do anything to make ends(sellouts etc.), he is glorifying his
culture, just like James Brown (Say it loud...I'm black and Proud!) and
many emcees have done and will continue to do.....

                                                Word to miz....

                                                    Hotsauce.


Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:40:10 -0500 
From: Michael Anthony Carnevale <mc78+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: PARIS

Talking about PARIS, I was listening to the radion this morning, and I
heard an ad for his new album.  The ad played some tracks in the
background while they said "Now hear the album that the government
doesn't want you to hear," and it said something about how all the
labels didn't want to distribute it.  Anyway, they confirmed that it
would be out "November 23."  Now that's this Monday, and I've never
heard an album being released on a Monday, but who knows...Damn, I hope
they're right.

-Mc