From: popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: "One Nation, Indivisible"
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 00:59:59 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX

J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:

> In <JLD3wB6w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com>,William C. Barwell writes:
> 
> >mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus) writes:
> 
> >> rlc1028@zeus.tamu.edu wrote:
> > : In article <ghartzog.32cl@terapin.com>, ghartzog@terapin.com (Garrett Har
> >> ) writes...
> >> :
> > : |you should also take a look at many of our legal documents. Especially t
> >> : |Declaration of Independance (written by none other than Thomas Jefferso
> >> ich
> >> : |mention God. Look at many of the state constitutions as well. Look at t
> >>: |pledge of alliegence. Look at our currency ("In God we Trust"). I'm sure
> >> 'll
> >> : |notice one thing that's mentioned repetedly, "God".
> >>
> >> Look at the U.S. Constitution that makes no reference to any diety except 
> >> the date.
> >>
> >> :
> >> :    This is not to detract fromt he notion that there were
> >> : G-d-beleivers among the US founders, but the word "God" was added to the
> > : pledge of alliegence perhaps a century and an half after the US's foundin
> >> :
> >> :    It originally ran: "...one nation, indivisible, with liberty and
> >> : (blah...balh...blah)"
> >> :
> >> : Gadson
> >>
> > "Under God" was inserted into the Pledge of Allegiance on 14 June, 1954 and
> >> God We Trust" was made mandatory for currency and coinage on 11 July, 1955
> >> --
> > Mike McAngus                    |You are a fluke of the Universe.  You have
> > mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org            |right to be here, and whether you can hear
> >> The Truth is still the Truth    |or not the Universe is laughing behind yo
> >> Even if you choose to ignore it.|back.  -- National Lampoon, Deteriorata
> 
> 
> >Somebody once asked Benjamin Franklin what he thought the motto of our
> >country should be. Franklin answered that it should be, "Mind Your Own
> >Business".  I think we should cahnge the motto "In God We Trust" to
> >Franklin's motto.
> 
> I'm glad that you've been converted to see the light, sir.  If you now agree
> with Franklin's motto, then perhaps you will now see that the people who forc
> the welfare state on those who don't want to pay for it are *not* "minding
> their own business?"
> 
> Are you, by bitching and moaning about Bush's pardons and assuming that every
> thing not liberal and Democrat-controlled is evil, "minding your own business
> 
> I believe in MYOB,. too.  But I believe that I should MYOB even if it's not
> in the best interest of my favored political ideology.  Come to think of it,
> MYOB *is* my favored political ideology.  I don't selectively apply it when
> it suits my political agenda.
> 
> Hypocrite.
> 
> 
> Tim Irvin
> *****************************************************************************
> "In a free government the security for civil rights must be the same as that
> for religious rights." -- James Madison, Federalist #51


Well Tim, (ya little twerp), It IS my business when the president is 
involved in lawbreaking, lying, felonies, coverups, and the continues the 
coverup by misusing his pardon powers.  Don't you want an honest 
governement where the highest officials do not break their oaths to 
follow the constitution and faithfully foolow the laws of our land?
  You don't SEEM to!  And yes, it IS my business, it is all of our 
business!  Including you!  You're falling down on your end there, boy.
Imagine, being for massive coruption and coverup!   And thinking that we 
should not speak out about this or demand changes in the laws that allow 
this to happen and continue unchecked.  Do you really like seeing these 
creeps get away with their felonies and perjuries?

As to your creep lil tirade about "welfare' ect.
  Yeah, yeah.   Let 'em die in the streets.  SOCIAL DARWINISM.  the 
pseudoconservatists stock idea.  
  Let the elderly, the sick, the very young who are having hard times die 
in the streets.  Fuck 'em!  That's the American way, yes Tim?  Fine 
Christian American attitude you have there.  Yeah, i know the next step, 
so don't even bother.  You'll take some extreme case of misuse of welfare 
ect, and claim directly or indirectly that this is the norm, the way all 
welfare is misused, not even thinking that welfare is a minor part of all 
of this and that abuse of our nation's resources in this fashion are a 
result of a useless system that is set up to fail.   Sen. Patrick 
Moynihan suggested reforms two decades ago, but Nixon decided instead 
that the official way of dealing with this would be "Benign neglect".

So here we are.    Two deacdes of republican conservative leadership, two 
decades of failure.  And there you are truculently ignoring all of this 
while slimy neiocon catchphrases pour from your ugly lips.  It's YOUR 
guys that have run things for 2 decade and are responsible as any, bud 
and don't you forget it.



And this is MY business too!   Two decades of problems unsolved, while 
the pricks who did not solve them use these problems they sre more than a 
little responsible fore to stir up resntment and political polarization 
by egging on little creeps like you!


Yeah. Timmmy.  you're a big conservative aren't you?

Pope Charles   SubGenius Pope Of Houston   Wake up you Timmy!

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