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From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:35:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.234912.6786@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch) writes:
>  I'm feeling like I don't belong in.  Mostly what I feel
>  is intimidated by the other Callahaners.
>
>  I don't often post to threads because my opinion is often
>  more throughly explained by someone else than I could do
>  myself.  Or I don't know enough about the subject matter
>  to form an opinion one way or the other.  (Here, I'm thinking
>  about the StM/Nightstalker thread.  I'm pretty much an agnostic,
>  raised without religion.  When I do think about religion, I
>  tend to lean towards paganism.)
>
>  I just don't feel all that comfortable here.  I thought I would.
>  I'm probably just exagerating things way out of proportion, and
>  tomorrow I will feel totally different.  But, then again, maybe not.
>  nathan.


       Hmmmm.  It's taken me days to get to replying to this, and I am still
not sure how to reply.

     If you don't feel like you are the best or brightest debator on 
Callahans, you shouldn't worry.  I don't think I've ever seen Didi debate
people on anything, yet she seems to be well loved by all.

     And if you can't make the most beautiful posts, either to sing your
happiness to the world, or to cheer up that person you know is unhappy,
well. . . there's a mule I'm fond of quoting who says the following:
    "Well, I'm not very bright, but it seems to me that, while there's a 
strongest person on a tug of war team, if you take  away ANYONE from the 
team, they still lose."

      Dunno. . .sometimes, you CAN take th weakest person from the tug of 
war, and they'll win. . . but sometimes, you need every pair of hands you
have!  And that's why you shouldn't despair on things like that.

      I dunno.  You may not be able to speak beautifully (*I* can't) or
argue well (I can, once in a while) or even be funny and vivacious. . . 
 
      But you can love.  And I never know of a time when when a little more
loving wasn't appreciated.
 
                                                      John
-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher 
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From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Yet another sleepless night
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 11:40:26 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

I just have one quibble with your post, your use of the phrase 'men's
movement': there is more than one men's movement, not all of work the
way you describe.  E.g. the portion of society that Phyllis Schlafly
represents could be called a 'women's movement'......
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Babbage's Birthday Bargain Bash -- December 26th, 1992
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: writing Re: The Nightstalker makes an observation
Date: 26 Jul 92 10:31:14 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera

In article <1992Jul25.144410.4247@cs.tulane.edu>, pierce@spop.navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.072051.2522@cco.caltech.edu>, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
>|> So we know God wasn't simply dictating the message for transcription.  Now, how
>|> do we figure out just how much of the message was invented by the people
>|> writing the Bible?  Just how far does the style of the authors or conventions
>|> of the period in which some part of the Bible was written influence the
>|> content?  You CLAIM it doesn't influence the content in any significant manner,
>|> but what evidence do we have for that claim?
> 
>    I took a Bibical Archaology class last year. The professor told us that
>  there were computer programs that could pick out a writing style. Thats
>  how researchers know that numerous people wrote what we thought were
>  Shakespeare's plays and also how we know that three people wrote the book
>  of Genesis. A woman wrote most of it, with two men contributing some
>  writing to it. I belive he said they used original Aramaic manuscripts
>  from some era. Sorry I don't remember exact dates, its possible they used
>  the Dead Sea Scrolls, but I am not certain. And yes, the information that
>  a woman wrote most of the book of Genesis upset several people in that
>  classroom.

Hmmm.  Sounds like a rather extraordinary claim to me (and the motto of
skeptics is that extraordinay claims require extraordinary proof).  What other
writings by women of that era were used for to validate the claim that a woman
wrote most of Genesis?  If I recall correctly, the Dead Sea Scrolls are
considerably later than the writing of Genesis, so to use them as evidence,
you'd have to assume a completely static culture for the interim.  Now, while
Judaism certainly encouraged a very conservative culture, I'm not sure it was
THAT conservative.  Please note:  I'm not disputing the possibility that a
woman wrote most ofg Genesis;  I'm just asking for the evidence that allowed
someone to determine gender.
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From: lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower)
Subject: Re: Strange Question  (was Responsibilities of Artists...)
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:00:32 GMT

   "Well, since explosions are bright clouds of rapidly expanding
and burning gas, the possibility that there would be SOME gas that
reache the observer is certainly worth thinking about." Manx chimes
in with his .02 worth.

   "Mike, some 180 proof to demonstrate, please?"  Mike hands him
a spitting glass of vile liquid, which Manx sets on the table
amidst a crowd of fascinated onlookers.  "Now imagine this table
is a vacuum... see, there's no alcohol splashed on the table, well
not much, anyway.  Consider that puddle of alcohol to be 'thin
and tenuous', OK?"  Manx lights a small match, "Now we simulate
the explosion."  He drops the match into the shot-glass, which
obligingly explodes.  "See, you are now covered with alocohol!
This corresponds to the expansion of gas to envelop the observer.
Since wetness corresponds to sound in this analogy..."

   Manx has to briefly fight off a lynch mob, until he agrees
to pay all the virtual dry-cleaning bills.
From: randolph@cognito.cognito.ebay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: A Night in the Hills of West Virginia
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:38:47
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
	<1992Jul23.230344.25661@crc.ricoh.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cognito.ebay.sun.com
In-reply-to: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com's message of Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:03:44 GMT

"Marie, Rowan -- I feel like you're arguing with me for advocating
censorship.  Also, Marie, I really wasn't lumping you in with our
pro-violence types -- sorry if I gave that impression (you may not
have seen the other posts).

"I'm bothered by the way this discussion is going.  We seem to be
launching counter-offensives in response to nothing; I'd rather we
were sharing more and defending less."

__Randolph Fritz  sun!cognito.ebay!randolph || randolph@ebay.sun.com

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From: gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu (Jonathan Gardner)
Subject: Re: Anti-Freeze/Much too Cold!Sundog, who has been busy wrestling with concepts of creation
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:34:29 GMT

In article <3681@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>
>	The Sea Wasp stares aghast at these madmen.
>
>	"I used to have a reputation for surviving the cold very well.
>However, I remain skeptical of someone walking, UNAFFECTED, for a mile
>through -40 degrees. Wind chill may be different than straight temperature,
>I suppose (and if you walk WITH the wind, you diminish the wind chill...)
>
>	"And I think it's lunacy anyway. I'm cheering on global warming.
>If another snowflake is never seen in my vicinity, that will be fine with
>me. 
>
>	"It's EASY to cool off, but once you get chilled it takes HOURS
>to warm back up."

The Space Cadet, swaying slightly to the sound of Hawaiian music, joins
in. "Yeah, one time in the middle of last winter it got all the way
down to 65F! (20C) People were walking around in long pants and
sweaters, for goshsakes! I cancelled my plans to go to the beach, 
piled all the blankets I own on my bed (both of them!) and shivered 
under the covers 'till it warmed up.

(Tee hee, just rubbing it in while I still can. I move to a certain
frigid island in the North Sea, known for its pea-soup fog, in less
then two months, and then you all can have your revenge. :-)


The Space Cadet
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Jon Gardner                                gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu
Institute for Astronomy                           University of Hawaii
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From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu (Hari Seldon)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Jury Duty Re: Lawyers (was Re: Seat Belts)
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:42:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: chaos.bill.711862946
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <122420097@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:

>In alt.callahans, dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David) writes:
>> 
>>      Taking the principle of personal responsibility for consequences to its
>> logical extreme with regard to driving, we should immediately declare
>> unconstitutional all speed limits, traffic signals, stop signs and pavement
>> markings....
>> 
>>    (Before anyone dismisses this as entirely impossible, may I point out that
>> the future history posited as background for the "Car Wars" game begins with a
>> ruling by the Supreme Court that declares unconstitutional all efforts at Law
>> Enforcement on the nation's highways....)

>Let me get this straight.  You are suggesting that we should
>consider this a credible scenario because it is represented in
>a GAME?  Jeez, I thought people in callahans were too caught up in
>gaming, but I never suspected that they REALLY confused it with 
>reality.  Perhaps I should prepare myself for an invasion
>of Pernicious dragon riders.
accually some research by the national traffic safty board concerning
spped limits as a method of controlling speed showed that they are generally
ignored, and tended to convence motorists to ignore other signs as well.
they suggested that traffic be monitored drop the upper and lower 5%(10%??)
and avg the rest. people will drive what they think is safe and thats that.
anyway that was the gist of the article.

bill pociengel
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bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu
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From: gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu (Jonathan Gardner)
Subject: Re: An attempt at delurking someone...
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:24:45 GMT

>In article <1992Jul20.093331.15220@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, 
>mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar) writes:
>> "And now it's time to threaten Helen with assorted embarrassing revelations
>> (invented on the spot if necessary :-) ) unless she introduces herself!
>> Come on, folks. Let's make her feel at home!"
>> 
>> - Danger Mouse.
>

A quiet decends upon the place as the ever-present piano playing suddenly
stops. Eddie gets out his blackjack.

"No, wait, Eddie, there has been too much violence in here lately. Let
me try," says the Space Cadet.

"Danger Mouse, I know you have been in here longer than I have, but I
see something wrong with this. Much as I would like to meet the fair
Helen, whose face launched a thousand ships and sank a fair number of
them, this is Callahan's, and people don't have to come in here if they
don't want to. Callahan's, while well lit, has many dark corners where
people can lurk for as long as they want to before coming into the
light. Even forever if that is what they want. They should not be
pressured to introduce themselves, not ever. Even the meadow has many
ill-lit bushes, which, when not hiding thieving teddy bears, are hiding
lurkers from the light.

"When Helen decides to introduce herself we will give her a warm
Callahan's welcome, but not before."

The Space Cadet
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Jon Gardner                                gardner@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu
Institute for Astronomy                           University of Hawaii
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From: rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Anti-Freeze/Much too Cold!
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:33:42 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Jul25.195734.11894@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (P'relan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.215825.15525@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey) writes:
>> Alfvaen listens with a fair amount of disbelief to Sundog's post.  (Okay, reads
>> it, whatever.)  He checks the email address again, and the sig.  No, Miami for
>> sure.  He then goes up to Sundog and says, "So what are you doing in Florida?
>> And where do you get your extensive knowledge of subzero temperatures?
>>
>> "Obviously you're more fit to be a Canadian than DM is, the wimp who can't
>> handle 10 degrees Celsius..."
>
>P'relan laughs and shakes his head.  "No, Miami's in Ohio!  The Miami Indians
>originally lived in the Miami Valley of southwestern Ohio and ended up in
>Florida - I believed they were forced there by the U.S. government."

 Hooray!  Someone knows about my tribe!

 I'm a Miami, but my family if from Miami, Oklahoma, were we were settled.

 However my family has never considered itself a part of the Miami Indians
 of Oklahoma, but rather part of the Miami Indians of Indiana.
 (confused yet?)

 I'm just thrilled that someone knows about my tribe.
 It's made my day.

 Nathan.
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From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Was a lot of stuff I can't remember - is now the weather
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:39:12 GMT

ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Shonias) writes:
: In article <1992Jul28.150256.25931@cs.mcgill.ca> braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (The Didi-Sprite) writes:
: >
: >"Well, thank you, Ignatz!"  says the -Sprite, suddenly noticing his
: >long, pale gams under the table, "That is a whole lot warmer than here,
: >at present!  It is barely 19 deg. C. here (66 deg. F)!  Hardly shorts
: >weather in my book!  How about coming out on the meadow and putting a 
: >blush on those things!"
: 
: Shonias chokes, "Barely shorts weather????? 19 deg C is two jumper
: weather!!!!"

Alfvaen chokes, "Two jumper weather?  19 deg C is about the time I take off my
jacket when I go outside.  And I'm considered extremely strange for having my
jacket on at that temperature anyway.  Most people I see are in shorts..."

--
---Alfvaen(a.k.a. Aaron V. Humphrey, Page of Newts)
Canadian Network For Space Research, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
"The bullroarer churns a Moebius strip of sound..."  Anna Amabiaca
Current Album--Talking Heads:More Songs About Buildings And Food
Current Read--M.J. Engh:Wheel of The Winds
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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: Galileo re: even more...
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:08:20 GMT

In article <920728.10222152.025093@USM.CP6>, JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE) writes:
>
>
>"Hmm. Galileo is making a close fly-by of Earth?

StM answers, "Not at the moment.  Remember, I *DID* point out that it would be
something of a detour.  As of noon Thursday, July 23, 1992, the Galileo
Spacecraft was about 125,608,000 miles (1.35 AU) (679 light-seconds) from the
Earth.

>We are only 300
>miles up, and as much as I would like to kick the antenna loose on
>Galileo, I would rather kick a designer or two..." DJ. :-) :-) :-)

The last theory I've heard as to why the antenna's stuck is that they tested it
once too often on the ground, and that last test squeezed just a little too
much lubricant out of someplace critical.

>  Sorry, but I think Galileo is too far away, and moving faster than
>the orbital speeds we are doing. At least I think Galileo is going
>faster than 17,000 mph.  These suits just don't have the impulse
>needed to go to that much of a higher orbit. Later...

"Oh, well.  Galileo was, as of last Thursday, moving at about 46,300 miles per
hour relative to the sun.  Judging from other reports on Galileo, it's
currently moving at about 21,000 mph relative to the Earth.
From: rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: More of Nathan being Depressed. (feel free to skip this)
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:21:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Jul22.154914.9294@news.iastate.edu> SG.MML@isumvs.iastate.edu (M. Loughin) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.234912.6786@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
>rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch) writes:
>
>>  I'm feeling like I don't belong in.  Mostly what I feel
>>  is intimidated by the other Callahaners.
>
>I occassionally feel this way too.  Then I remember, they're
>all just people.  Like you.

  Like me?  Oh, dearie me, what a messed up place Callahan's
  must be.  :)

>Just 'cause you don't do math doesn't mean you're not smart.
>I have a math background, and I skip most of the math postings, too.
>I do it all day -- don't need it in my recreational time.
>
>Sounding smart and being smart can be two different things ;-).

  True, I guess I'm prejudiced in thinking that people who have
  degrees in a subject know that subject.  ;)

>I have a suggestion.  Start your own thread involving your
>interests, things *you* know something about.  Maybe we can learn
>something new from you!  Besides, I'd enjoy hearing some less
>scientific, more "right brained" discussions.

  If I think of any, I'll try to post them.  (my posts have
  a bad habit of getting mangled)

>--Marie

  Thanks for the advice.  I'm feeling much better than when I
  posted.  I should know better than to get nea

  Thanks to you and all the people who have sent mail, it helped
  me to swing myself up out of that low spot.

  Hugs to SEA, Shonias, DM, NickD, Niles, kitten, and to the
  Didi-Sprite, because Hugs can't be given, only borrowed.
  Sooner or later they return when you need them.

  Nathan.

  when I am at the low point of a depression.  But somehow, I
From: bsackste@AFIT.AF.MIL (Bernadette M. Sacksteder)
Subject: Re: MonTemplar's Birthday!
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology, WPAFB OH
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 11:08:48 GMT

In article <bsackste.34@AFIT.AF.MIL> bsackste@AFIT.AF.MIL (Bernadette M. Sacksteder) writes:

>In article <1992Jul14.140526.2456@ibmpcug.co.uk> nicki@ibmpcug.co.uk (Nicki Trasler) writes:

>>In article <memo.517735@cix.compulink.co.uk> aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>>>
>>>Could be I'll go where only a few in my street have gone before - we're
>>>getting Cable TV here, and my parents are considering whether or not to
>>>sign up for it.... before that, you'd have needed a dish to get extra
>>>channels.

>>Nicki, sneaks in after an absense of almost two weeks, mumbling something
>>about two-day expiry times.

>>She looks at MonTemplar, "Oh, happy birthday, sorry it's a bit late -
>>this is the first time I've logged in in quite a while....

>>"Funnily enough, I've just finished reading 'A Canticle For Leibowitz'.
>>It is very good, but there are places in it where I wish I could read
>>latin.  I hope you enjoy it, if that's the right word - it isn't a happy
>>book.
The New Kid peeks nervously out of the dark corner she's been lurking in for 
quite some time

>Don't worry about the Latin. I've had three years and some of it I couldn't 
>understand. It's a wonderful book, anyway. My father keeps borrowing it 
>without telling me (sigh).

>Oh... HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

>New Kid 
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Bsackste@afit.af.mil                -William Shakespeare
                                            Henry V
__________________________________________________________________
You mean somebody actually CARES about my opinions?
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From: rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Anti-Freeze/Much too Cold!Sundog, who has been busy wrestling with concepts of creation
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:05:59 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <3837@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.225302.21024@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> rkoch@lonestar.utsa.edu (Ruth M. Koch) writes:
>>In article <3681@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>> Excuse me, but I find it hot enough here in Texas, thank you.
>> I don't need people wanting to make the world hotter.  :-)
>
>	Hey, with luck the weather patterns would change, sea level
>rise, and Texas would become a new rainforest.

  Hey, there's an idea!  Just what I need, hot and _HUMID_. :-)

>>>	"It's EASY to cool off, but once you get chilled it takes HOURS
>>>to warm back up."
>
>>   I disagree.  You can only take off so much clothing to get
>>   cool.  You can always put on more to get warm.
>
>	"Uh-HUH. Putting on clothes once you are already cold will
>do no good for a LONG period of time unless you're literally burying
>yourself in them -- it generally takes me a half-hour after being chilled
>before I stop feeling like an ice cube, and four to six hours for the
>feeling of being chilled and exhausted to go away.
>	"On the other hand, if I'm overheated, three minutes under a cold
>shower takes care of the problem. Zap.
>	"And to answer the obvious question, no, the equivalent trick of
>hot baths or showers isn't nearly as effective overall; the temperature
>differential and evaporative cooling allows the air to start the chilling
>process much more quickly once you step out."

  Even when I lived north of Chicago, I didn't get chilled so much.
  I'm just hot natured I guess.

>
>                                 Sea Wasp
>                                   /^\
>                                   ;;;
            Nathan.
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From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: The New Kid
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
	<1992Jul24.032530.8890@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
	<1992Jul25.042811.26517@tamsun.tamu.edu> <Bry2pH.7IG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<1992Jul25.171323.1670@cs.tulane.edu>
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 08:05:41 GMT

A small white furry dog saunters to the middle of the room and
unsprawls a banner.  It reads:

"Welcome to the place, Bernadette!
 Welcome back, Aslan!"

The dog gets on her hind legs and gives each a "high five."

--Lynn
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