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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:00:48 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
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Aziz Faris (faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU) wrote:
: I am looking for an Arabic name for a boy, and would like some suggestions. The
: name should fit the following criteria:
: 
: 1. Non-religious.
: 2. Easy to write and pronounce in English.
: 3. Has a good meaning.
: 4. Not too common.
: 
: If you can help please, send it directly to my email address above. Also if you
: would be kind enough to include the meaning of the name.

  Marhaba Aziz. I ran into the same problem alomst a year ago, but i "escaped"
the problem and gave my son my father's name. My father insisted that i wasn't
obliged to do so, but he said that he would like to suggest an "original" name.
He suggested "Inkido", which is not Arabic but rather Somarian. Well, i said
to him it didn't bother me that my son be called Inkido, but that i really
didn't like to be called "Abou Inkido". I decided to be "old-fashioned" and
named my son AbdAllah. 
  While we are speaking about names, i met someone last year whith the name
"Nakad" (Nakad mean sadness). I was very astonished, how did it happend that
the father gave his son such a terrible name ? The answer was that the father
did so to avoid the "hasad" and "ein" (jealousy of people), the same thing for
those who choose the name "che^hadah" (means begging, with ^h like in ^Haleeb,
not like in Hisham).

  Now, to help you in your choice. What about Ibaa ?, it's non religious,
it has a very good meaning, it's among the least commun names in Arabic. And
very easy to write. And i think it goes well with your other son's name : 
Nabeel (yes, i like my name, and i think my father did well, any objection
:-) ?).
  A beautiful name i like is Bashar, but it's a little bit commun. Another one
which's not so commun is Iasse (Iasse is the reference for intellegence among
the Arabs). 
  
: 
: Thanks
Ahleen, i hope you'll find a nice name, and my best wishes for you and the
baby.
: A.Faris
From: jaber@court.ahmedi.kt (Sheikh Jaber Subah)
Subject: To Martillo
Originator: martillo@nero.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo)
Organization: Emiri Court, Kuwait
 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:17:00 GMT

>Wa Salam
>------------------
>Khaled Shammout

Thsd group is not for consuming the bull$#!+ which this
****sucker produces. I know this mother****** does not read replies to his pathetic posts. He just every ocne in a while pops
to remind us how too-civilized-to-be-true he is. He should remember thta we are not idoits like he is and we always remember how biased uncivilized barbaric he is. Whyu doesnt this son of
a b**ch work in the bush campaign, with his idiosy he can secure
imminent victory for him.

What shahama there is in leaving this lump of $#!+ stink in this group?

Cee you in the movies.
From: bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Bandr Bin Sultan is Missing
Date: 27 Sep 92 07:26:08 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <nabeel.717478631@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan) writes:

>   Even once Penthouse had an article about secret sex in SA. If
>what they published had been true, it is a real scandal. I think
>most of it was. I think I still have that article.

Let me get this straight---you don't like the House of Saud because
you don't think they're Islamic enough, yet you posses a Penthouse
magazine or magazines?  And you give what they say much credibility
simply because you don't like Fahad and Co?  Hmmmmm....
--
Dave Bakken                               Internet: bakken@cs.arizona.edu
Dept. of Computer Science; U of Arizona   Voice:    +1 602 621 4098      
Tucson, AZ 85721; USA                     FAX:      +1 602 621 4246
The fact that you're paranoid doesn't prove they're *not* out to get you.
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:21:47 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:

beel Ghuzlaan) writes:

>>Good choice - so you are Abu Hisham
>>Anisa (Ohmjihad)

>Does this mean it is hopeless between you too?  :) :D :0 :_] {) &%*&^%^&%

   It certainly does not. Her first kid can be Jihad, and mine 
can be Hisham and one (and only one) of us can be the other 
parent of the other's first kid! 

   A better solution may be that the same boy has two names; they
do it all the time in ME -- I have an uncle whose names are 
Muhammad and Ibraheem. And others too; I have a Xian Nicaraguan 
friend who has four first names -- and he hates it like hell!

**
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Name for a boy
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:09:19 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Selahattin Dibooglu (sal@IASTATE.EDU) wrote:
: How about  Antar as in Antar bin Shaddad
:            Zeer as in Zeer abu Layla al-Muhalhil
:            Qays (I forgot the name of my hero):-)
 Qays Ibn el Mulawah.
: 
: 
: Selahattin.
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic coding set (No 2: ASMO-449-Plus).
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:13:41 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


 Sorry, it was 3h00 a.m when i posted my article, i've noticed that i've
 forgotten to complete it. Here is the complete one (corrected).

Ibaa Oueichek (oueichek@imag.fr) wrote:
: 
:   Salam.
:   As i've promised, i'm scanning the rest of the coding sets i have,
: and i'm posting them when i can.
:   Follows the second standard, it's the same one used by Apple in the
: Arabic version of their OS. It's called ASMO-449-PLUS, the difference with
: ASMO-449 is that ASMO doesn't define vowels (kasrah, dammah, fathah) neither
: the combinaisons "Shaddah+Kasrah", "Shaddah+ dammah", and "Shaddah+fathah".
: 
    PS : If you have a problem with the GIF format, i can provide TIFF,
JPEG and PS formats.
    
:
From: sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Islam and Science
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:53:04 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA


Essalam:

I'm preparing a History of science term paper where I challenge the traditional and overly simplistic Western notion that Islamic scientific thought and the contribution of Islamic scholars consisted mainly in the revival of interest in 
Aristotle and ancient Greek philosophy.  At this point I'm at the early stage of
collecting references.  I've found some, but I think I'll need much more than
what I have.  If anyone knows any references that may be of help, I'd
appreciate it.  

Thanks,
Ahmed
From: fkittred@spchp11.BBN.COM (Fletcher Kittredge)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Islam and Science
Date: 26 Sep 92 23:41:30
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., 10 Molton Street, Cambridge, MA
	02138
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In-reply-to: sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu's message of 26 Sep 92 16:53:04 GMT


I could recommend Philip K. Hitti's classic "History of the Arabs", (Mine is
the tenth edition, 1979, St. Martins Press, New York) in which he
voluminously documents the many historic contributions of Islamic
scientific thought and Islamic scholarship.  However, though it has
a good overview, it might be a bit of a problem since most of the
sources it references are older.

regards,
fletcher


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   Date: 26 Sep 92 16:53:04 GMT
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   Essalam:

   I'm preparing a History of science term paper where I challenge the traditional and overly simplistic Western notion that Islamic scientific thought and the contribution of Islamic scholars consisted mainly in the revival of interest in 
   Aristotle and ancient Greek philosophy.  At this point I'm at the early stage of
   collecting references.  I've found some, but I think I'll need much more than
   what I have.  If anyone knows any references that may be of help, I'd
   appreciate it.  

   Thanks,
   Ahmed
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From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic Name
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:08:43 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

rayes@Goat.mcs.kent.edu (Sandra Rayes) writes:

>And weighing in for girls:

>How about Hediya...it means "gift" as in a gift from Allah, and Allah
>knows that girls are indeed a gift! :-)  You can call her Hedy, for
>short...how cute.

   About the same meaning is Hiba -- a friend of mine is expecting
a girl next month selected this name. I said **sigh** Thank
God he did not select "Ayatullah Alkhomainy!" I usually go
for general names with no feminine sign (like Fatima or
Lamiaa') and from the Arab literature (compare with the
Beardist literature like 'Aalaa', 'AAyaat) and that will be 
pronounced properly (e.g. Suhayr (read with Brit accent is 
pronounced Suhair.) So I go for names like Lubna, Layla, Maha 
etc.

   All my siblings have decent names except me and a brother
of mine whose name is "'Ameer" -- still my father can't know
why he had made that mistake. My siblings' names are
^Omar, Firyaal, Mayy, Layla, Idrees, Shehrazad and the two
miserable names Nabeel and Ameer. What I hate about those
names is that they rhyme with "Fa^eel." I do not like names
which rhyme with "Fa^eel" or "Faa^il." Weird, huh?

>If you don't like that, try Ute (pronounced [long "u"] UUH-teh).  Well,
>I know it's not Arabic (it's German, which is the most beautiful
>language :-) ), but it's my mother's name...

   German is the most beautiful language? So you do not know
Dutch? ;-) Well I know that French is the romance language.
(For those who do not know Arabic, the real romance language.)

>Sandra...Um Fatimah and Um 'Umar.


**    Yes, wherever they are!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:43:36 GMT


faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris) writes:
>Why don't you educate us on the meaning of your name, and furthermore, 

   'Ana smee mo*hee*ton bilfu*daa'ili wal *hija
       wa laakinnahoo   fil*gaabireena     quleeloo
   Min aNnoori walBillawri walYammi walLu*thuu
       kamaa  'annahoo  min  *gorrihinna   saleeloo
   I_thaa konta fee ma qolto maa zilta jaahilan
       'ala fa^laman  bismee  wa  _thaaka  ????????
                   (c) 1986 <NMG>

   If someone is interested in more information about the meaning of
my name I suggest as references, Lisan ul^arab, A*ssi*haah, Attah_theeb,
Almo*hee*t or any old Arabic dictionary. But for now the meaning is
essentially shared among nabeel, labeeb, najeeb, nabeeh and others.
And one can always be nabeel, no matter what he does (as long as it is
not utterly stupid.)

>define for us a "real man".

   The defenition depends, how about the pride of ^Umr ibn Kolthoom for
starters, or that of ^Untara, Almohalhal, Almotanabbee and others?

>If you think you are a "real man" also
>tell us what made you one, if any thing did, so that perhaps we can all
>aspire to be "real men".

   I am sorry I can not help you, I am not a real man, I am a complex
man with real and imaginary parts. And by the way,

   'Ana lla_thee nu*thura l'a^maa ilaa adabee faquul:
         'Alaa layta shi^ree hal abeetanna laylatan
            ashokko  na*heelan  aw  afokko   *hijaabaa
         'A^oddo nojooma llayli wa lbadro kaamilon
            wa yatta*ki_tho lbadro ssa*haaba *hijaabaa
         Yosallee qo^oodee na^imo l*kaddi ka^ibon
            sharuuban wa u*snaafa  lmawaali*hi  jaabaa
                   (c) 1992 <NMG>  
  You get the idea?          

  I am sorry I had to get out of my way in the third line to keep
the tail as *hijaaba (lozoom maa laa yalzam.) As an engineer and
not a poet, I beg pardon from "Sea Bow A" for what I have done to
the language.

   The fact that I do not like my name, does not imply that it is
not better than most names, but I do not mind a better one yet.            
>A.Faris

**


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris)
Subject: RE: Arabic Name
Reply-To: a.Faris@trl.oz.au 
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne,Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:14:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.193816.4393@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ksalah@nyx.cs.du.edu (Khaled Salah) writes:
|> souissi@ec.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
|> >>I am looking for an Arabic name for a boy, and would like some
|> suggestions. Th
|> >>name should fit the following criteria:
|> >>
|> >>1. Non-religious.
|> >>2. Easy to write and pronounce in English.
|> >>3. Has a good meaning.
|> >>4. Not too common.
|> >>
|> 
|> >How about Mohamed :) :)
|> 
|> >>Thanks
|> >>A.Faris
|> 
|> >Ridha
|> 
|> Of course Mohamed (pbuh) doesn't meet the category list of Mr. Faris for
|> the
|> following reasons:
|> 1. It is very religious.
|> 2. Not that easy to write, SAM or SAMI would be easier.  So when your kid
|>    grows up, people will call him Uncle Sam.
|>                                        
|> 3. Has a fanatic religious meaning to Americans; it will never be
|>    adjusted to be close to an American name.
|> 4. It is the most common name in the W O R L D.
|> 
|> I hope you will endup with all girls instead?  Amin.
|> 
|> - Khaled
|> 
                       
Dear Khaled:

Thank you for this response, to begin, god has already soured your curse, for I 
have another boy and his name is Nebeal. I am not a religious person, although,
I was born to a christian family. Thus it is not fitting for me to use the
name of either Mohammad or Jesus or any other names that are religious. I prefer
to use an Arabic name that portrays our Nobility and the fact we are 
generous and cultural loving people. I suppose, I am to blame for seeking
suggestions from this group, since there will always be at least one person
who will undoubtly mis-understand my intentions. Once again thank you for the
insult.

A.Faris

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: kshammou@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Khaled J Shammout)
Subject: Re: IT'S ARABIC POETRY QUIZ TIME ! QUIZ #2
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:40:50 GMT

>Quiz #2 for the Arabic Poetry Enthusiasts:


>Who wrote the following:

>Banat su'adu faqalbi al-yauma matbulu
>Mutayyamun ithraha lam yufda makbulu
>Wa ma su'adu ghadatal-bayni ithrahalu
>'Ila al-ghannu ghadhidu at-tarfi makhulu

>What was the occasion for this poem and the story behind it?

>Sandra.

The poet was Ka'b bin Zuhayr bin Abi Sulma al-Muzanii.
And the first part of the second verse should read:
    Wa ma su'adu ghadatal-bayni idh barazat
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^

Anyway, the story behind this poem is as follows:
During the very first few years of Islam, the brother of Ka'b embraced Islam.
For that reason, Ka'b composed a poem in which he attacked his brother (for
becoming a Muslim); and he also attacked the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).  Muhammad
(pbuh) is related to have said that "if any body kills Ka'b, then he will not
be punished". But, Ka'b did not take that threat seriously because the Muslims 
were only a small number and not very powerfull.
However, when the Muslims became strong and they openned Mecca, Ka'b decides to
embrace Islam. So he goes to Mecca (disguised) and meets with the prophet
(pbuh) and acts as if he were Ka'b's envoy.  He tells the prophet that Ka'b
wants to embrace Islam and that he has a poem for him from Ka'b.  Then he
recites THAT poem (from the quiz), in which he praises Muhammad (pbuh).  Of
course Muhammad (pbuh) pardons Ka'b; and only then does Ka'b reveal himself at
which point the prophet gives him his mantel {burda}.

Wa Salam
-------------------
Khaled J Shammout
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:03:32 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

rayes@Goat.mcs.kent.edu (Sandra Rayes) writes:

>But my vote (since some of us are counting) goes to 'Umar or Omar.
>It is easy to pronounce in English (in fact a famous American 
>general from WWII was Omar Bradley--my dad met him). It's Arabic, too.

   It is easy to pronounce ^Omar in English? Omigod!

>I like the way it sounds.  But the real reason of course, is that's
>the name *I* like, after my two favorite figures of Arab History:
>'Umar Ibn Al-Khattab (Radhi Allahu 'anhu) *and* 'Umar Al-Mukhtar
>(Rahmatuallah 'alayhi) of Libya.

   What about ^Omar ibn ^Abdil^Azeez (raa)?

>Sandra, Um 'Umar (insha Allah!)

**
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris)
Subject: RE: Arabic Name
Reply-To: a.Faris@trl.oz.au 
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne,Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:48:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.221453.17296@trl.oz.au>, faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris) writes:
||> |> Of course Mohamed (pbuh) doesn't meet the category list of Mr. Faris for
|> |> the
|> |> following reasons:
|> |> 1. It is very religious.
|> |> 2. Not that easy to write, SAM or SAMI would be easier.  So when your kid
|> |>    grows up, people will call him Uncle Sam.
|> |>                                        
|> |> 3. Has a fanatic religious meaning to Americans; it will never be
|> |>    adjusted to be close to an American name.
|> |> 4. It is the most common name in the W O R L D.
|> |> 
|> |> I hope you will endup with all girls instead?  Amin.
|> |> 
|> |> - Khaled
|> |> 
|>                        
|> Dear Khaled:
|> 
|> Thank you for this response, to begin, god has already soured your curse, for I 
|> have another boy and his name is Nebeal. I am not a religious person, although,
|> I was born to a christian family. Thus it is not fitting for me to use the
|> name of either Mohammad or Jesus or any other names that are religious. I prefer
|> to use an Arabic name that portrays our Nobility and the fact we are 
|> generous and cultural loving people. I suppose, I am to blame for seeking
|> suggestions from this group, since there will always be at least one person
|> who will undoubtly mis-understand my intentions. Once again thank you for the
|> insult.
|> 
|> A.Faris
|> 

I would like to apologise if this posting offends any one. Anisa was good
enough to write to me personally and pointed out that I may have insulted more
people by not wanting religious names to portray our cultural nobility.

I was not interested in religious names because religion will be attached to
the name immediately. I only wanted to make sure that if the child grows up
in the non-arabic cultures that he remembers his parents heritage and culture
without any attachment to any religious beleif. This is not to say that
religious names are not noble or good. Again I apologise if any one is
offended thanks for those who responded.

A.Faris
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: UNHRC condemns the Khomeini regime AGAIN
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:32:16 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5



  WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS DISCUSSION TO ALT.RELIGION.FANATISM ?. Can't you
find anything else to speak about in s.CULTURE.arabic thant "punishement",
"stoning", "women must be covered from head to toe, OTHERWISE..". No wonder
why WE (Arabs) are in a mess, because we spend our time discussing issues like
dress code and such and forget the essential. Why do we insist always on
judging each other ? Why all that disrespect to those who don't share our
opinion and faith ?. Or is it our fate, to be lost forever in this endless
discussion "I know G-D better than you, so shut up or i'll kill you".
  How miserable has become soc.culture.arabic. How miserable WE are, because
we focus on clothing and such, because each one has enough time to watch others
and give moral judgments and forget to clean inside ourselves.
  Wonder how many "potential leaders" we have on this forum.


  Salam, and no hate mail, PLEASE.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: marbm-b@ascii.co.jp (Marcos Bachir Mubaied)
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Organization: ASCII Corp. Tokyo, Japan
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:26:23 GMT


Nabeel Ghuzlaan writes:

>   I know the Hadiths you appended but I duck from that by
>claiming that the time is not right, that was in the golden
>times. But tell you what, the solution is falling in love. We
>as Arabs when falling in love, forget our names! But experience

	Could you explain what do you mean by " We as Arabs
	when fallin in love, forget our names!". Are you
	suggesting that we arabs must only get married with
	arabs? Is that in accord with the Qram? 

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From: kshammou@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Khaled J Shammout)
Subject: Re: To Martillo
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:23:09 GMT

In Article: 11942 of soc.culture.arabic BY:
jaber@court.ahmedi.kt (Sheikh Jaber Subah)  OR WHO EVER THAT MAY BE, writes:

>   S### [erased] was created for people like you to eat, not to post to
>this newsgroup. Now f### ### [erased], will ya? Bone apetite (deliberate
>"misspelling.")

>I do not blame an ###hole [erased] like you (typical source of s### [erased]),
>but I blame the naive netters who care to waste their time in
>pumping a flat tire like you.
>S### [erased].

>--jaber

     To who ever sent this article:
     THIS IS AN ARABIC NEWS GROUP, and we would appreciate if you would behave
in a more polite and respectful way.  It would be very kind of you to practice
some authentic Arab IZZA, KARAMA, and SHAHAMA.
     Yes, some articles may drive us crazy; but by using such language, you are
doing yourself a disservie.

Wa Salam
------------------
Khaled Shammout
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nkjle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: Islamic Arabic Names
Organization: LC
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 07:05:25 GMT

In article <3960@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.020903.5031@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>>I am expecting another child in mid january. Our primitive ultra scan
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>*You* are?

Yes, he is expecting (waiting for) a baby to be delivered by his woman.

>How did *that* happen??

When his wife informed him that she's pregnant, he started to expect.

(leave the guy alone :) :D :____] ).

>I would definitely go with Anisa, should *you* have a girl.  :)

And if you have a boy, name him Sayyaf.  Or  or name him jle why not!!


>Mabruk!

Alf Mabruk  (beat you by 999 anisa).

jle
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Islamic Arabic Names
Date: 4 Oct 92 05:24:13 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Oct3.020903.5031@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>I am expecting another child in mid january. Our primitive ultra scan
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*You* are?

How did *that* happen??

I would definitely go with Anisa, should *you* have a girl.  :)

Mabruk!