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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius)
Subject: Immortals Starting Antique Shop Franchises
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:48:16 GMT

I have come to this conclusion.

Duncan doesn't have a whit of originality in his entire body.

So he has to emulate his cousin Connor.

Connor learns how to duel in fancy ways with a katana.

Duncan learns how to duel in fancy ways with a katana, going
so far as to use the very same katana from Highlander I & II.

* * *

Connor moves to America (prob. because of the Gathering)

Duncan moves to America (prob. because of the Gathering)

* * *

Connor makes to attack Slan Quince (pilot ep)

Duncan makes to attack Slan Quince (pilot ep)

Then the two knock heads a little realizing "Gee... no 2 on 1"

* * *

Connor grabs a hot foreign blonde babe (Heather, who in my opinion
was just plain gorgeous)

Duncan grabs a hot foreign blonde babe (Tessa, who is older but 
probably suits Duncan's personality better -- Connor was never the
thinking man of the two)

* * *

Connor opens an antique shop.  (Admittedly, this might not happen
until after Duncan dies... maybe Connor inherits all Duncan's 
valuable antique stuff and sets up shop in New York.)

Duncan... guess what... opens an antique shop.

* * *

This was actually meant in jest --

I think the coincidences are (brace yourselves) writers attempting
to form a link between the two (so that Highlander fans won't be too
disgusted with any changes from the main character in the movies to
the main character in the series... but, whoops!  Then they put Richie
in.  Oh dear.  Screwup #1.)

Eyewitness any good?

* * * * * * * * * *

Marius
ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ST:TNG (critiques) vs Dr. Who
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:12:22 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Dec15.164209.24518@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:


>[lots of stuff about how Yar's death in Trek was less affecting than
>Adric's]

>I agree with that.  And in reference to the question about "didn't they
>bring Yar back?", they've had a Romulan lookalike who is (no flames becuase
>I don't remember exactly) supposed to be Yar's daughter or something. 
>They've had her on several times without even an attempt at an explanation,
>which is just about the most reprehensible thing any writer can do, in my
>opinion.  UGH!

>Drewcifer

>P.S.  Mystery/suspense is one thing; laziness is another!
>-- 
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>as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

Whoops!  Whoa!  Hold the phone!!!

Sorry about that, everyone; I've had floods of E-mail about how the writers
*did* explain this.  Now that I've been reminded of the story, I *do* recall
the attempt at an explanation (emphasis on ATTEMPT).  It's a measure of the
insignificance of the attempt that I forgot about it....

Anyway, PROFUSE APOLOGIES for committing an even more reprehensible writers'
sin: writing about something without checking the facts.  "I crucify
myself"--Tori Amos.

Drewcifer
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From: firenza@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: ANIMATED
Date: 20 Dec 1992 17:42:26 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Dec20.013339.2620@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>In article <1go1m1INN8ii@mozz.unh.edu>, mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE) writes:
>     Sam leaps in to Wiley Coyote and has to capture the Road Runner by making
>those oh-so-perfect ACME gizmos work... and, since the Coyote never speaks, he
>holds up a sign that says "Oh Boy"...
>
>    It's just a theory...

  The Coyote has spoken before in a RoadRunner cartoon.  

 firenza
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: Joerg.Plate@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Joerg Plate)
Subject: Re: Buck Rogers Space Vampire
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:30:46 GMT

qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:

>	I don't remember the episode where the Searcher's crew
>were turning to slime.  Can you fill me in?
It's been a long time ago... but I think it wasn't really slime.
Something yellow, steaming, looking like rocks.
"The Hand of the Goral", I presume...  (2nd Season)

>	You know, now that I think of it, there were a lot of
>hot babes in that show.  Pamela Hensley as Princess Ardala?
>Yowzah!  It also seemed so ridiculous how hard Buck tried to
>stay out of her bed.  He even drugged Tiger Man and put him in
>there.
>	Speaking of the "Legion of Death" episode with Frank
>Gorshin, there was some blond, empathic villainess that wore a
>really tight leather outfit.  She was nice to look at.
>	A young Markie Post appeared in an episode, if I
>remember.  A dozen years later, she STILL looks good.

The only interesting woman (I *really* don't like the expression "hot babe")
was Wilma (a.k.a Erin Gray ). And Ardala is weird...

MfG
Kultur

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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ST:TNG (critiques) vs Dr. Who
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:42:09 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


[lots of stuff about how Yar's death in Trek was less affecting than
Adric's]

I agree with that.  And in reference to the question about "didn't they
bring Yar back?", they've had a Romulan lookalike who is (no flames becuase
I don't remember exactly) supposed to be Yar's daughter or something. 
They've had her on several times without even an attempt at an explanation,
which is just about the most reprehensible thing any writer can do, in my
opinion.  UGH!

Drewcifer

P.S.  Mystery/suspense is one thing; laziness is another!
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From: jennise@opus.dgi.COM (Milady Printcap the goddess of peripherals)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Quarc
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:39:00 GMT


Does anyone out there remember a show called Quarc? (or Quark I'm not
sure about the spelling or the name) If I'm not dreaming it starred
Richard Benjiman and was about interstellar garbage collectors. It
also had in it the original Doublemint Twins---okay maybe not the
original ones but they were twins and they were always arguing about
which one was a clone and which was the original. 

I'm dredging up (possibly) faulty memories and was just wondering if
there ever really was such a thing.

jennise@dgi.com
From: wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: ANIMATED(Coyote)
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:02:42 GMT
 <1992Dec20.013339.2620@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> <1h2ba2INNd8d@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1h2ba2INNd8d@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, firenza@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins) writes:
> In article <1992Dec20.013339.2620@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>>In article <1go1m1INN8ii@mozz.unh.edu>, mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE) writes:
>>     Sam leaps in to Wiley Coyote and has to capture the Road Runner by making
>>those oh-so-perfect ACME gizmos work... and, since the Coyote never speaks, he
>>holds up a sign that says "Oh Boy"...
>>
>>    It's just a theory...
> 
>   The Coyote has spoken before in a RoadRunner cartoon.  
> 
>  firenza

Maybe the one time that he did speak was when Sam leaped into him.  But I
think the only time the Coyote has spoken were in those Coyote/sheepdog ones at
the time clock, I don't remember any talking at all in the road runners (except
when Bugs replaced the road runner.)

-- 

          "I have a new strategy, Artoo. Let the Wookiee win." - C3PO

          "Let the flesh control the mind." -Lestat deLioncourt

          "In the Troopers, it's always bowb your buddy week." - Bill

                  -wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
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From: buc@world.std.com (Quantum Buc)
Subject: Re: Galactica 1980 Question
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:32:38 GMT

pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) writes:

> In article <Bz9Gvs.AG2@world.std.com> buc@world.std.com (Quantum Buc) writes:

> > mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE) writes:
> > > >>         Patrick Stuart(others)     Art Director.......

> > > Ahem.  That should be STEWART.  Patrick Stewart.  Can't you guys spell?
> > 
> > Yes. Y-E-S. I can. C-A-N. This Patrick Stuart S-T-U-A-R-T is NOT N-O-T
> > Patrick Stewart S-T-E-W-A-R-T. Okay? O-K?
> > 
> > Chow. 

> C-I-A-O

Sigh. Does the word sarcasm sound familiar? S-A-R-C-A-S-M?


Oh no!  I'm getting involved in a flame war!!! Can't we all just get along?
Just say NO!

All further replies will be via mail.  I suggest anyone else who gets a
burr in their saddle about spelling do the same.  

Ah riva derchi.


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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius)
Subject: Re: Highlander on WGN
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:40:33 GMT
Keywords: Highlander

Data based on CST.

Highlander is on WGN Thursday night (when it's not cancelled
by sports events... urgh) at 10:30 pm (that would be 11:30
pm Eastern, or... you get the picture)

Ciao.

* * *

Marius
ses52823@Uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: GGPERRY@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (ggreg)
Subject: YAR'S DEATH SCENE
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:35:28 GMT

well, the whole problem with this is that they killed her off in the first
10-15 minutes of the show, didn't they?  i mean, you're killing off a major
character her, it's her last show, so let her at least be the focus of the
episode, and wait till the end to knock her off!  and let her go out in a
heroic way!  you know, something like saving someone's life, sacrificing
herself to save the ship, etc., etc.  i mean, how fucking lame are these
writers anyway?  admittedly the things i mentioned above are nothing new,
but at least they let the character go out with a bang, and hopefully make
for a memorable last episode.
                                     star trek sucks,
                                                     ggreg
 
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From: jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason)
Subject: Highlander : Duncan's aliases
Summary: difh
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:02:07 GMT
Keywords: fjhgfv

 

 In the Highlander tv series (the best scifi show on tv at the mo) people
 are asking why Duncan is not using an alias to hide the fact that he is 
 immortal (like Connor did in HI)

 I believe there are two reasons.. 
 (1) He had spent some time (but not much, considering the flashbacks 
 (Stalins Russia, for example) out of the game on holy ground. This is minor.

 (2) He could have been using aliases up to the opening of the antique shop.
 I mean, if you had not used your real name in 370 years, who is possibly
 going to track you down? So "Duncan McCleod could easily be an alias; it is
 just that it isn't. Do people follow that garbled argument?

 (3) There is an additional silly argument I have just thought of. What if
 he has changed his name back unconsciously, for the game, making it easier
 for fellow immortals to find him?

 Feedback appreciated.
 Jason.
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Hill Street Star Trek
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:04:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <01GS5LGHT49E9UMET7@VAX1.UMKC.EDU> CDOMS@VAX1.UMKC.EDU writes:
>Obviously, STNG has simplified their story line and this is no longer a
>problem (for the most part).  So, would anyone want to see DS9 take on
>HSB format?  It seems somewhat ideal, since the characters would be 
>confined to a space station. 
>
>Comments?

Well, let's see.  How well is Star Trek doing in syndication?
Phenomenally well.  How about ST:TNG?  Very respectably.  HSB?
Pretty darn hard to find.

I.e., quality telivision and serial format doesn't translate into as
much money as episodic television of inferior quality.

Too bad.

Tony
From: Edward_Lee_Whiteside@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: B5: Some Babylon 5 discussion on the net?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 11:10:09 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

How about we get some Babylon 5 discussion going on the net?

With the upcoming advent of ST:Ds9 and the resulting promotion blitz by 
Paramount, it is likely that the uninformed will consider Babylon 5 a 
"ripoff" of Ds9 when it turns up.  From comments from J. Michael Straczynski
(Babylon 5's creator), it looks like ratings and the viewer response when 
the pilot movie airs will play a big part in how soon Warners will commit to
a series.  Since the B5 movie will air in late February, Ds9 will already
have six weeks of episodes aired.  By then people may be ready for a new
show set on a space station, being tired of the old one already...

Promos for the Prime Time Entertainment Network (PTEN) are now running on
affiliated stations, so keep an eye out for those.  



The start date for the network appears to be January 20th, starting with
either the movie opener for "Time Trax" or "Kung Fu: The Legend Continues".
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
Subject: Re: Buck Rogers Space Vampire
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:17:37 GMT

In article <1gpfhgINN9rc@agate.berkeley.edu>, joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung) writes:
> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>>	All I want to say is that the episode of Buck Rogers
>>with the Space Vampire (Vorvon) was pretty scary to a six year
>>old!
> 
> Indeed!  Especially with those long nails, touched to the throat.
> Brrrr!  I don't remember how old I was when I saw it, but, damn!
> 
> -Jon Kung

I always liked that 2-hr episode from the 1st season with the nuclear man
who could walk through walls. Way cool. Also, TV's Riddler starred as
Kellogg in that one too. 

Oh, and there was that one mid-season episode where Hawk and Buck were
on a clone ship of the Searcher. Pretty soon, everyone was turning to space
slime, and Buck and Hawk figured out that they were not on the real searcher.

Finally, my favourite mid-season is where Twiki (bidibidibidibidibi!)
saves that arrogant computer's life with his inferior brain (Crichton).

Lotsa fun. I miss this show.
-- 

John P. LaRocque
vader@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario


"Urk..urk..."
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa", Darth Vader
From: ztstodd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Todd Vaarwerk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Putridity Incarnate  (was: Re: Galactica 1980 Question )
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:53:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.dev.null
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


         [Most of Article Deleted for sake of Brevity]

>>> In the case of Galactica 1980, they tried to cut costs by bringing
>>> series to modern day California.  It was a lame excuse for a tv
>>> program, and an insult to the original.
>> 
>>   NO.   "GALACTICA 1980" was intended solely to take advantage of
>>   existing sets and stock footage, and get enough episodes into the
>>   can to allow syndication of the whole mess, but even with eventual
>>   syndication in sight, the ratings were so abysmal that even the
>>   Universal honchos pulled the plug.
> 
>I can't disagree here.  I couldn't stomach the thing.

         Forgive me if I am incorrect, but when *I* saw the preview of
         BG, although it was opposite the Emmys, it was INTERRUPTED by
         news coverage of the peace accord between Isreal and Egypt
         somewhere around the beginning.  So, lets not "Look at the
         figures" and let it all tell the tale.

         Anyhow, on to BG 1980.  There is a video called "Conquest of
         the Earth" that is a compilation of two BG 1980 episodes ..
         IMHO, it is as bad as the original episodes, but feel free to
         look at it for yourselves .. My point was that BG 80, even
         for what it was, did have *some* potential, but it was lost
         due to no direction or continuity .. The stories seemed to go
         off in ALL directions .. (From The "Super Powers" of the
         Galactican Children, to the Evil Elder trying to change the
         outcome of WWII, to the telling of the Starbuck story, to
         something about Water Rights in the west .. )  Even tried to
         introduce Baltar near the end in something about a race to a
         radio station tower .. It was an attempt both to recoup costs
         from BG, but also to fill a new 7:00 pm time slot, as well as
         satisfy the SciFi viewers, who wanted to see how BG might
         finish.  The show was still quite popular.  Enough to get a
         thearical release in the US for the pilot and the "Pegasus"
         episode .. 


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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:34:09 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <icFPVB2w164w@geloser.login.qc.ca> rider@geloser.login.qc.ca (Serge Ayotte) writes:
>mscott@quaver.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Mark Scott) writes:
>
>> -- 
>> Paramount owns the rights to 'Star Trek'.  FOX is the only network that
>> I know of that has purchased the ST:TNG series. I wouldn't doubt that some
>> other independents might have picked it up too. Since ST:DS9 will be closely
>> hinged on the ST:TNG world, with TNG guest appearances, I doubt you'll see 
>> DS9 on any station that doesn't carry TNG now, which is mostly FOX
>> affiliates. This has also borne out to be true from the info I've been hearin
>> in the Star Trek news groups.
>> 
>Just as a note; Up here in Montreal(Quebec, Canada... and no WE don't
>have ANY snow yet... What a wierd winter this is announcing!) we receive
>ST:TNG via the ABC affiliated station, but this week I have seen a 15
>second "teaser" on the NBC affiliated station saying THEY will show
>DSN!!
>
Just to get stranger, here in the Dallas-Fort Worth area we currently get
STTNG on Channel 21, KTXA.  They used to be an independant, until a year or
so ago when they started advertising that they were "A Paramount Station."
They, of course will be showing STDS9.  What I found very odd is that they
also will be showing Babylon 5, a Warner Television production.  Couple that
with their local rights to the original Trek.. can you say "SCIENCE FICTION
SATURDAY/SUNDAY"?  Can't wait.


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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ST:TNG (critiques) vs Dr. Who
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:14:58 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

[Followups to rec.arts.drwho]

In <1992Dec13.193144.471@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>In article <rawdon.724208819@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
>>Once the quality of the writing plummeted (in the Colin Baker and Sylvester
>>McCoy eras, both of which are almost uniformly *awful*), the series
>>sputtered and was cancelled.  (One wonders if the BBC - long an opponent of
>>its own show, for some perplexing reason - finally realized what was keeping
>>DW afloat and fired all the good writers or something.)

>I differ with you here Michael, the quality of the writing in those eras
>did not plummet at all.  The quality of the show's time slot did and thus
>the ratings suffered.

I thought Doctor Who had always had a lousy time slot. :-)

At any rate, its time slot in Britain had no impact on *my* opinion of the
episodes! :-)

>If anything, the writing only got better with masterpieces like
>"Remembrance of the Daleks," "The Curse of Fenric," "The Greatest Show in
>the Galaxy," and "Survival."

Uh... The only one of those I'd consider a masterpiece would be "Survival".  I
saw "Greatest Show" recently and thought it was only slightly less abysmal
than "The Happiness Patrol" (which is quite a slam since "Patrol" is one of
the worst Doctor Who episodes I've ever seen!).  "Remembrance" is an
entertaining but uninspired Daleks story (none of which have really grabbed me
since "Destiny Of The Daleks" like I suspect their creators would have hoped).
"Curse Of Fenric" (as I've said before on r.a.drwho) is a muddle; a very nice
idea, but it really could have used some focus and clarity of plot.

(I just saw "Ghost Light" for the first time this week, and had a similar
reaction to it that I did to "Fenric".  Nice ideas, but the plotting and
execution needed several more revisions to get it to work right.)

I think "Battlefield" is a better story than any of the others you mentioned
(except "Survival").

>Otherwise I think we agree. Just wanted everyone to know that Michael's
>point about the scripts is one that is in dispute.

Well, naturally. :-)

I just haven't cared for many episodes since "Frontios".  I just about gave up
on the series in disgust after the one-two punch of "The Caves Of Androzani"
and "The Twin Dilemma".

-- 
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University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department,  Madison, WI
( Coming soon to a Massachusetts near you! )

"...I trusted [Ganelon] like a brother.  That is to say, not at all."
				- Roger Zelazny, _The_Guns_Of_Avalon_