Via: uk.ac.imperial.physics.starlink; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:52:21 +0000
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:58:00 BST
Reply-To:     MICHALIS SAVOPULOS <MSAV@STARLINK.PHYSICS.IMPERIAL.AC.UK>
From:         MICHALIS SAVOPULOS <MSAV@STARLINK.PHYSICS.IMPERIAL.AC.UK>
Subject:      peri paideias
Comments: To: HELLAS <HELLAS@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

>Genika mporei na isxuei auto pou les alla apo kei kai pera
>nomizw oti mporw na krinw an kapoia pragmata odeigoun ston
>ekfasismo ths dhmosias zwhs kai o Marinos einai ena apo auta
>kata thn apopsh mou.

 Bebaiws mporei va exeis opoia apoyn Qeleis... Kala eivai pavtws va mn kollame
xaraxthrhsmous eukola se kapoiov... Av bebaia pisteueis oti  o avQrwpos eivai
fasistas tote mporeis va tov apokalleis etsi... Dev sumerizomai tnv apoyn sou
giati  me tnv leyn autn evvooume kati diaforetiko apo auto pou ekfrazei o
Marivos...Ektos av Qeleis va tnv xrnsimopoieis etsi apla epeidn o avQrwpos
eivai dejios. Empasei periptwsn av autn eivai n gvwmn sou eivai Qema diko sou.


>Wraio to uponooumeno alla ekei teleiwsa kai kserw arketa kala...

Kai egw teleiwsa sto Aristoteleio Pavepistnmio tns Qessalovikns


>Genika prospatheis na mas peiseis oti kathws exoume mia
>xeirotewreush pros ta pisw auto akurwnei ta asxhma twn
>prohgoumenwn nomwn????
>Omologw oti autes oi genikeuseis oloi oi nomoi exoun antidraseis
>ara den lene tipota oi antidraseis den lene kai tipota epi ths
>ousias.

PepiQnsn mou eivai oti oi vomoi pou bgnkav gia tnv paideia ntav gevika kaloi.
Alliws n paideia stnv Ellada dev Qa ntav sto epipedo pou eivai... Opws eipa kai
stnv arxn egw pisteuw oti to epipedo paideias stnv Ellada eivai gevika kalo,
alla Qa mporouse va givei kai kalutero. Apla oi vomoi pou erxovtai dev eivai
arketa tolmnroi giati oloi fobouvtai tis avtidraseis pou Qa prokalesouv.


>Kala afou to problhma einai oi foithto pateres (alhtheia mhteres
>uparxoun ;-)) ) giati oi foithtes den pshfizoun alliws???
>Ligh sobarothta giati tetoia mazikothta stis foithtikes
>suneleushs ta duo-tria teleutaia xronia eixame xronia na doume.

Ma oi fntntes ynfizouv alliws... Oloi gvwrizouv oti n orgavwsn pou kerdizei tis
foitntnkes ekloges eivai n DAP alla oloi episns jerouv oti oi suveleuseis
polles fores kapelwvovte  apo periQwriakes omades aristerwv pou ekmetaleuovtai
eite tnv adraveia twv perissoterwv foitntwv eite tnv tempelia tous(apoxn, wraia
ara dev Qa diabasoume kaQolou!!!)


>Klap Klap Klap
>tha mporousa na prosthesw oi tempelhdes foithtes dhmosioi
>upalhloi, oi tourkoi oi martures tou iaxwba A! nai kai oi
>ebraioi bebaiws...

Kalo to upovooumevo alla egw arkoumai stous foitntopateres opws to eipa kai dev
exw problnma me allous... Bebaia me tous Tourkous exw problnma alla gia pollous
allous logous!!! Oso gia tous martures tou Iexwba protimw va mnv to
suzntnsw....Avnkei stnv sfaira twv upoxrewsewv ws pros tnv amuva tns xwras kai
oxi sto sugkekrimevo Qema...



>Ma kala twra exeis paei na kaneis mathima sto fusikio na deis
>thn gluka na mhn uparxoun aithouses Exeis dwsei eksetaseis sthn
>estia se aithousa pou stazei!!! Oi katalhpseis kai oi apoxes
>ftaine!

Opws sou eipa eimouv sto Aristoteleio... Emeis loipov dev eixame tetoies
aiQouses.. Oi aiQouses pou kavame maQnma ntav to ligotero ayoges!!!
Fusika loipov ftaive oi katalnyeis giati kata tnv tapeivn mou apoyn ntav xwris
logo!!

>O Kontogianopoulos epese otan ta prwtopalikara ths ONNED
>dolofonhsan ton Temponera, twra tugxanoun polu kalhs
>uperaspishs gia to "filokubernhtiko" tous ergo!!!

Dev Qelw va kavw tov dikngoro nliQeiwv, giati autoi pou skotwsav tov allo
nlnQeio (Tempovera) ntav nliQeioi... Kaveis apo autous av ntav sta kala tous
dev Qa pngaivav ekei... Oute kai o Tempoveras (Gia avtikatalnyn kai julo dev
pngaive kai autos;) ESY OMWS TI QA EKANES STHN QESH TOYS AN EBLEPES MIA
EKATOSTH NOMATAIOYS NA ERXONTAI KATAPANW SOY; DEN QA AMYNWSOYN ME OTI EPIANE STO
XERI SOY; Fusika av nsouv swstos piQava dev Qa eisouv ekei.. KaQe vormal
avQrwpos jerei oti otav paei gia fasaries kivduveuei!!!

>Bebaia oi suntexnies ftaine panta ;-))

 oxi pavta alla tis perissoteres fores ...



>Alla o neos einai wraios ;-))

>Yiannis

Mixalns Sabbopoulos

Melos tns Listas apo to 1988
Pragmatika palios kai wraios

Xairetismata se osous apo tous palious me Qumouvtai apo tote pou eimouv sto
University of New Hampshire

Niknta Kartswva eisai mesa stn Lista;
Steile kava veo!!


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