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From: sl1zm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: @$#^@$%# 2.04!
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:32:27 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

[novella deleted...]
> of DOS. It is ridiculous that DOS 2.05 is shipping in some new
> machines and yet DOS 2.04 is not readily available.
> (I have an A3000 purchased in Aug 1990. I have not heard a peep
> from C= about a ROM upgrade, although it is my understanding that
> it was a part the purchase package. I don't even know if the A3000
> ROM upgrades exist. Last I checked with a dealer, in April, they
> were not yet out)

Funny... I've installed the ROMs in a dozzen+ 3000's in the last few months.
I guess it must be shipping.  You know, if a dealer doesn't pre-order parts...
they get stuck at the end of the queue.  And there has been quite a demand for
upgrades... probably more than CBM expected.  The store I work at has sold out
of upgrade kits 3 times now (they order 15-20 at a time), and several upgrades
are allready spoken for from the next shipment.  And demand seems to be rising
here.

> Compare the situation to the (BOO   HISS  we love to hate them)
> IBM/MSDOS PCs and clones. At which DOS upgrades did the users need
> to swap BIOS ROMS??? Can DOS 5.0 be run on an original IBM PC?

Well, Microsoft was quoted as saying that they were going to start putting DOS
in the BIOS soon (year or 2?).  (that was sometime this spring BTW.
In Computer ResellerNews)
And Windows will probably follow.
Since DOS is the most pirated / blackmarketed piece of software out there,
the BIOS route should look very attractive.

And you can allways install a ROMswitcher.



James
From: thad@btr.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape SCSI medium error (HardFrame/Viper)
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:25:07 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA

In article <62742@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>Is the DC600 the correct tape for the Viper? I thought it took
>6150/6250 type tapes. I realize they're the same form factor, but
>there's a difference (I haven't a clue as to what).

Depends which Viper!  :-)

The Viper 2060S is QIC-24, 9-track, 60MB with DC600A tapes; the Viper 2150S
is QIC-150, 18-track, 150MB with DC6150 and 250MB with DC6250 tapes.

Among other things, the media of the DC6150/DC6250 varieties is much more
highly calendered (meaning: smoother).  [and, yes, I did spell it correctly]

In another newsgroup, someone commented that inserting a DC600A tape into
a QIC-150 drive (such as the Viper 2150S) forces it to write in QIC-120
mode.  This sounds plausible, but I've been unable to verify it, though a
recently-posted extract from the Viper manual in comp.periphs.scsi alludes
the same.

There don't appear to be any physical differences in the QIC cartridge
housing itself between a DC600A and a DC6150, so "maybe" the hole pattern
at BOT and EOT somehow encodes the tape type.  In case people aren't aware,
the reason for the mirror in the cartridge is for BOT and EOT sensing of
the holes punched in the tape itself (since QIC tape doesn't have any
clear leaders as do Compact Cassette tapes).

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]
From: jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: GVP G_Force Boards
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:55:25 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

From article <1992Jul26.080035.20301@gbrmpa.gov.au>, by wayne@gbrmpa.gov.au (Wayne Amisano):
> mcgradyj@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (James McGrady) writes:
> 
>>Hi All
> 
>>Can someone tell me if the GVP G-force accelerator/HD series allow access
>>to the HD in 68000 mode. I've heard it said that this is not possible on some
>>models. Is this true across the board ???
> 
> No it doesn't exist in 68k mode.
> 
>>Thanks
> 
>>Jim
> 
> cul wayne.
> 
> PS. I've never used 68k mode since I got the Combo..
>

Is it possible to have 2 scsi controllers in an Amiga?  I intend
to get a GVP G-force '040 card for my Amiga when they become
available [is Motorola shipping '050s yet? ;-{)] and just bought
a series II hard card with 4 meg around Christmas.  It seemed
like I might as well use the series II card to give me 12 (?)
scsi devices if I could, unless GVP has a trade in policy for
going from the memory/scsi/harddisk card to a G-Force card.

BTW.  I believe I can get 16 meg on the accelerator card.  Is
there any device, program, etc. out there which would benefit
from more memory than this?

Has GVP shipped that 24 bit color card which "plugs into" the
accelerator cards yet?  If so, is there anyway out there who has
seen/used one?  Will it work with the Toaster? 
-- 
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One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, (The Minstrel Boy)
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From: krc@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Amiga 500 system problem!
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:03:56 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

I am having a problem with the following equipment ;

Amiga 500 with a Spirit memory expansion board
SCSI hardrive (65 meg).
1010 external floppy
and a supra modem.

The problem I am having is when I turn on the Amiga the power light flashes,
the screen changes color, and then I get a software GURU error, it never asks
for the Workbench disk or anything.  I have tried pushing the chips down but
that does not help.  If you know what the problem could be please let me know
via E-Mail (I don't get into Netnews to often).  Thanks in advance!

Keith Connors
-krc@eclx.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re:  @$#^@$%# 2.04!
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:11:40 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: It's Home, really...

In article <AHANSFOR.92Jul24104956@graywacke.wpi.edu> ahansfor@graywacke.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford) writes:
>
>Downwards compatibility??  Why?  Systems tend to migrate forward and
>are held back by having to make things forward compatible. ( works
>on 1.3 and above or 3.2 and above depending on your platform )  Even
>then some things don't work.
    Downward compatibility is generally an OS term, ie the OS is downwardly
compatible rather than the applications being downward compatible with an
old level of the OS. The reason for the OS writer striving for the maximum
backward compatibility, even to the extent of little hacks to support some
suspect applications coding (as C= has done for 2.04), is to allow the
maximum numbers of users to move forward, while maintaining their existing
investment in applications software.

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              she thinks I'm a piano player in a brothel

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: hpesonen@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000
Reply-To: hpesonen@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:47:11 GMT

In article <u894776.712124367@bruny> u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
>jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
>>they took money away from A4000 project.  Even Kickstart 3.0/39.
>>text shows AA chips only have double speed so C= MUST spend
>>more money to design better chips.
>
>Double speed? eek! I would hope for a factor of between 4x and 8x.
>You get 2x speedup for doubling bus width, say 1.5x for page mode access
>and say another factor of 2 or so for using faster ram.

Speed and bus width are two different things. Double speed and double bus
width equals four times better graphics.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
Subject: Re: Are A600 and CDTV card slots compatable?
Originator: paulg@sydrd19
Keywords: A600, CDTV
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 02:08:24 GMT


In article <1992Jul23.165125.29860@knight.vf.ge.com>, ganoe@sde.mdso.vf.ge.com (Craig Ganoe) writes:
> Does anyone know if the card slots on the A600 and CDTV are compatable?  From
> photos, they look to be the same, and it would make sense if they were, but I
> would like to hear it from someone who knows for sure. 
[stuff deleted]

The cards are different, anybody know how different ie, is the idea of an
adapter right out to lunch???

I don't think the "card" standard existed/finalised when the CDTV was 
designed and the CBM engineers took their best shot at it and ah well 
missed :-). I would expect (hope) that if another CDTV unit is designed
it would use the same cards as the A600 (as well as having a 68040, lots
of 32 bit and is Unix ready :-)).  

When can we expect card readers for the 500/1000/2000/3000 ???

Cheers,
Paul Gittings
Telectronics Pacing Systems- 7 Sirius Rd, Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia
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From: bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:22:07 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Gee whiz, Dan, you've got some ego! I guess paying the CATS developer fee boosts
your IQ instantly or something!  Geez, I wasn't trying to start a war.
 
 
You ever think that MAYBE the reason the serial card didn't take off at first
is because virtually no one had greater than 2400 bps modems, and the null-modem
users generally used polled-io programs that don't care about interrupt latency
and 68030 exception frames and all that jazz.
 
Hmm. Gee, Dan, I >>THINK<< the wide proliferation of v.32 and v.32bis modems
has changed the world in the last YEAR or so. 
 
 
Regarding ASDG's products--- do they still use the Twin-X twin-tower iSBX module
design?  Like the GPIB-IEEE 488 interface. Or are they offering a serial-only
version?
 
My opinion of ASDG's hardware skills is pretty bad. The IEEE-488 interface is
a worthless piece of rubbish because the commie bastards didn't bother making 
decent software for it. I had to debug the library routines with a logic 
analyzer to verify they didn't work & harrass the guys about it. I finally 
DID get it to work. By doing something stupid & unnecessary if the hardware 
worked right. I can't even remember exactly what I did to make it work, but
it was my own skill that made it work, not any help of ASDG. And the damn card
took up 2 slots because of the towers.....
 
 
Maybe those developers should rethink their marketing plans. Of course, I 
realize Commodore-Amiga is shooting us all in the feet thinking about 
running multi-user BBS's on the Amiga simply because you can do it much cheaper on a PC......  and it doesn't make a difference to do so....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: leland@mitre.org (Robert Leland)
Subject: 1 Meg Upgrade, Problems
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:53:57 GMT

I receintly tried to up grade to 1 Meg Chip, I have a Rev 5 mother board
and a A501 Expansion memory. When installed the 1 Meg Agnus the screen 
was not being properly updated. When I resized windows parts were left behind.
I tried:
         Reseating the chip, several times.
         Replacing the chip with another 1 Meg Agnus.
         Replacing the Gary chip.
There is no change. The above occurs with and without a hard drive and 
all the extras attached.

When I reinstall my 512K my machine works just fine, (After undoing the changes!)


Any suggestions??
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From: kenny@mazurka.UUCP (Kenneth Yarnall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: @$#^@$%# 2.04!
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:32:01 EST
Organization: Math Department, USC

In article <sbiddle.05xv@aviate.welly.gen.nz> sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle) writes:
> In article <mwm.1azt@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us>,
> 	mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
> >In <1992Jul24.153748.23488@hubcap.clemson.edu>, charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) wrote:
> >> I think that it's a bit early for "2.0-only" major applications.  PD stuff
> >> and little utilities, yes.  But not stuff like WP's.
> >
> >Just out of curiosity, *are* there any "2.0-only" major applications
> >yet? The closest I've seen are some applications (I wouldn't call any
> >of them "major") that lost features under pre-2.0, or had two
> >versions with the same functionality; the 2.0-only one was just
> >smaller, faster, and had 3d buttons.  '
>
> I've yet to come across any commerical ones, but I could imagine within the
> next 6 months or so when the 2.0 upgrade has been available for over a year
> that the base could be big enough to allow this. I don't think there would
> be many Amiga developers willing to let sales drop by limiting their base
> users at present..

Maple V for the Amiga requires 2.0.

>  Steven Biddle	     -	   Mail: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Sparc coprocessors
Keywords: coprocessors, sparc, bridgeboard
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:39:35 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:

>There's a hard disk as well?  All the memory it uses is onboard?  How
>many port connections can you stuff into the back of a slot the height
>of a PC case? 

the following is SPARCard 2's specs:

- 40 Mhz Sparc processor
- FPU
- 8 memory
- 213MB harddisk
- Solaris 1.0
- color frame buffer

and from the picture in BYTE, the card comes with 3 ports. 

(see... all you need now is a keyboard and a multi-sync monitor...)
(where does the sound go?  I dunno!)

>I'm not being skeptical or critical, but why not EISA?  How difficult
>would it be to adapt it to a ZorroIII bus?

If keyboard is the only thing that is necessarily to "communicate" with
the Spacard, I don't see why we need EISA to do that.

ZorroIII?  I don't think ZorroIII version exists.  However, you could
plug it into one of the AT slots of your A3000.

>Thom

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin


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From: downsj@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (jason downs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Need Help - 50 Hz flickers
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:30:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Jul21.163018.2292
Organization: spherical domain of death and darkness

In article <1992Jul21.123232.24994@funet.fi>,
	po87553@cs.tut.fi (Pasi 'Albert' Ojala) writes:
>50Hz doesn't flicker here, but you just might be an extraterrestial being..

that's simply because you can't *see* it. those of us that have grown up
around 60hz screens look at a 50hz display and see a flicker. of course,
i've been running WB in PAL for the last three months or so, and i can
no longer see the flicker (in noninterlace). interlaced PAL, though is
utter shit...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: A600 HD SCSI or NOT The man speaks :-)?
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:09:23 GMT

In <1992Jul28.161658.2898@memstvx1.memst.edu> cse_stu@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>SysINFO finds ICD's IDE drive and says that it is SCSI but it really isn't.

Yep, as someone from C= already said, the IDE driver of the A600 simulates
a couple of SCSI_DIRECT commands and thus appears as a SCSI drive to
SysInfo and HDToolBox. This way they probably avoided rewriting HDToolBox.

Regards,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: lauwilli@nmsu.edu (WILLIAMS)
Subject: Help CD-Rom Toshiba drive & Xetec
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:53:07 GMT

I have a Toshiba 3201B in an Amiga A2000 with the A2091 controller and
can't seem to get it working. I have installed the Xetec program on my
hard drive but my computer will not mount the CD drive.  I put mount
cd0: in may startup-sequence (before the loadwb command) and set the
Xetec for auto-mount.
I think my problem is with HDToolbox. I don't know how to
identify the CD under "Drive type".  Read Configuration 
will not work because it's not a hard drive. One last thing 
I know that the my controller knows that the CD is present
because if I put a CD in the caddy it will not boot.

I would appreciate any info.
From: "mark woollard" <mark.woollard@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 2620 rev.# & ad 2.04?
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:18:29 EST
Reply-To: "mark woollard" <mark.woollard@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

I have a 2620 that I bought about 2 and a half years ago.  I understand
that older boards need some mysterious "tweeking" in addition to new
ROMS to work under AD2.04.  I plan to upgrade to 2.04 soon.

Does anyone (perhaps Dave Haynie) know the critical revision number
before which this "tweeking" is required.

Thanks
Mark
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From: pochanay@cae.wisc.edu (Adisak Pochanayon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 33Mhz 68040 accelerators???
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:08:56 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering


    I recently acquired a 33MHz 68040 chip as a gift from a friend.  I have
tested it in my Fusion Forty 28 MHz accelrator board and it works fine.
However, my 25 MHz 68040 works fine as well in the Fusion Forty.  I would
like to know if there are any boards available (preferable for A2000's)
that utilize a 33MHz 68040 at top speed.  Please e-mail me the available
boards, costs, and manufacturers if possible.  I would also like to find out
the price WITHOUT 68040 as I already have the CPU.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: catapcnl@Rose-Hulman.Edu. (Chris Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Meaning of Task No. in Software Failures/Gurus
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:43:07 GMT


In article <1992Jul25.183220.5416@ennews.eas.asu.edu> prado@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu  
(Louis A. Prado) writes:
:I am trying to determine which program is crashing my Amiga.  Sometimes,
:when I leave my A2000 unattended for a few hours, I come back to find it has
:crashed.  It may be my screen blanker (Spliner), but I am not sure.
:
:Is the Task number the last value of the 68000's Program Counter?  If so, how
:can I determine the starting and ending address of each program/background
:process I am running.
:
:Thanx.
:-Lou Prado  EE Undergrad.  Arizona State Univ.
:

I believe that it is actually the start address of the task/process.
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