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From: alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia)
Subject: ARE ALL WESTERN MEN GENTLEMEN ? (Re: MEN OF EASTERN ORIGIN
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:53:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.132955@daffy.mc.ti.com>, a726226@daffy.mc.ti.com (savithri) writes:
> 
> I have travelled alone here and in europe alone on several ocassions and
> I have never been humiliated even once.  

May I infer from this that eastern men here and in europe are gentlemen 
and that you are primarily complaining about the eastern men in the east ?
 
> I will not go into the horror tales from the women of other middle eastern 
> countries or into bride-burning and dowry deaths in our backyards.
> Suffice to say that I maintain my original position
> that more than 98% of the MEN of EASTERN origin are SCUMS.
> 

Just curious, what percentage of WESTERN MEN are scums ?
Do you think they are all gentlemen ?

NOW while not approving any of these crimes against women in the east or 
the west, let me try to bring few things to your attention.

a) Sure western men don't burn brides, but they sure shoot or strangle them ...
All you need to do is to watch the night news and everyday you will hear
one or two such cases in new york area alone ...

Result in either form of cruelty is the same - painful cruel death.

b) The number of reported rapes in west far exceed the reported rapes
in the east. It is also expected that the number of unreported rapes
in the west also exceed the same in the east.

c) Did you know that wife beating cases in late seventies far exceeded in 
the west compared to the east ? Almost 25% households reported such
skirmishes ...

d) Did you know how many women are taunted/brushed at the beaches or night
clubs in the west about their bust and buts ? Many more than in the buses in 
the east.

e) Did you know that number of x-rated clubs with women dancing nude or half
naked far exceed in the west than in the east ?

f) Did you know that the number of x-rated magazines/films with vivid displays
of nude and half bare women (if you consider it atrocities against women -some
women don't) far outnumbers the same in the east ?

g) It is hard to believe but even today at least 50 % of the western women
are just housewives. Another 40% work outside the home only part time.

Point: It is not WESTERN or EASTERN MEN, MEN all over the world
have been more dominant and usually suppressive and cruel to the WOMEN. 

Good news however is that things have been changing in favor of women.
More and more women are aware of their rights, more and more women are
networking about it and are fighting against the atrocities perpetrated
on their kind over milleniums.

Times have so changed in some places in the world that the balance is
now in favor of women. Men are complaining of atrocities against them
by women ...


> savithri

peace,

Alok


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: Communications Program in USCLA
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:54:14 GMT

In article <l78s1rINNld@skat.usc.edu> cupadhya@skat.usc.edu (Chintan Upadhyay) writes:
>
>What a poor taste of words ! Just shows how intolerant and bigoted a person can be ............
>
>Maybe his posting should be on rec.humor.not-funny , eh ?
>Or maybe he is suffering from the Freudian subconscious feelings of repression that he didn't go to USC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

Mr Upadhyay clearly does not get my point.....

Go Bruins.........


-- 
Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
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From: me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account)
Subject: Aditi's mysterious e-mail address
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:17:43 GMT
X-Posted-From: comstore.uark.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I am not trying to fake my address, or mislead anybody. I am operating  
from a demo-account at the University computer in the campus. Before this  
week we didnot have our mail ability, probably that is the reason why it  
was causing all the confusions. 

Deb, hope this will answer your questions. -- Aditi
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From: rpendse@velveeta.mfg.hou.compaq.com (Raju Pendse)
Subject: AFCS (Subroto Park, Delhi Cant.) Graduates
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:11:34 GMT

I am a graduate of the Air Force Central School in Subroto Park, Delhi Cant.
I am sure there are graduates of this school in this country. If there is sufficient interest I would like to see if we can come up with a directory of
ex-student. If you are a grad of this school please e-mail me directly and lets see waht we can do as a group to help the school.

Non AFCS graduates please excuse for tying up the bandwidth.


Raju Pendse
From: library@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: TEST...IGNORE...
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:49:19 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

PLEASE IGNORE THIS IS A TEST.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:05:54 EDT
From: Deepak Srivastava <DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Distribution: usa
 <1992Jul28.050835.453@news.uiowa.edu> <92210.101921DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Jul29.051344.20420@news.uiowa.edu>

In article <1992Jul29.051344.20420@news.uiowa.edu>, rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu
(Ramakrishna Chada) says:
>
>In article <92210.101921DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> Deepak Srivastava
><DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>An interesting point in this regard is that while we are beating
>>upon Bob Costa, has any one of us done a realtive comparison bet-
>>ween Bob Costa's commentary with that of any commentator from any
>>other prominent sports playing country ? I do not think so.
>>
>>The point is this, if you sit down and do a relative comparison bet-
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>ween commentators from all sports powerhouses such as US, Unified
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>team, Germany, France, England, China, Japan, Koreas etc, you may
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>surprisingly find that each and every one of them is trying to sell
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>only to the viewers of his country and not others. On the other hand
>>the approach of the commentators from the 'have not' countries may
>>
>>>
>>
>
>How have you managed to listen to the commentators of all these
>sports powerhouses?!!!(Your power packed statement makes me assume
>you have). May be I can also listen to them. I would        ^^^^^^
>rather do that then to the stupid NBC commentator.
>I am waiting for the info. Post it on the net so that others also
>can have that other view. I am sure people will be interested.
>
>Ramakrishna
>

Read the above statements again. The point is " If you sit down and do
......... you may find that .......".

No where I have said that I have done a comparative analysis. My obser-
vation, however, is simply based on the difference between perception
of 'have' and 'have nots' and the commercial necessity of every televi-
sion commentator to sell only to his/her viewers.

I do not know how feasible in US is to receive other olympic coverages
but anyone having a dish antenna and directly receiving foreign channels
can provide you with the required information.

regards..                Deepak

ps: Take it easy and don't assume too much. :->


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From: n0r1688@rigel.tamu.edu (Raghunand Natarajan)
Subject: Re: India and Artificial Turf (was re: Olympic
Summary:  Woof !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Poi Dog Pondering.
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:14:00 GMT


In article 27JUL199203591557@zeus.tamu.edu, I wrote:
>>I don't think artificial turf (AT) "naturally benefits" anyone:
>>it's just that "western" countries have more (to put it mildly) AT fields, and
>>so get a lot more practice on AT. Naturally, they are better on it than us.

To that, a certain Shirish Bhagawat (sbhagawat@eng.clemson.edu) writes in 
article <1992Jul28.220242.9240@hubcap.clemson.edu>......

>There is a difference in techniques of hockey played on Astro turf and clay 
>ground.  Any person who has played sensibly and discussed it with knowledgible
>people in the field hockey know it!!!!
>India has changed its style to suit astro turf long ago.  


Huh ? What does what you've written have to do with what I said earlier ?

>Don't Bark!!!

Woof ! Woof, woof, woof ! Wooowwwwwooooooooowwwooowwwwwooowwwwoooowww !

-El Coyote Mui Malo
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From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Degrading social and political life.
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:16:33 GMT

>My opinion is the nation is going through a moral depression. No one is  
>optimistic, or motivated. I call it a 'nation in frustration'. Lack of  
>leadership is the key problem. Over and over again our so called leaders  
Well, I am. And leaders are not born but made. What's preventing you?
Arindam
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: 13-year-old earns degree
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:44:45 GMT

In article <seOu=t_00WBMQ8D3FH@andrew.cmu.edu> pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:
>I'd be more impressed if the guy had sex at the age of 7.
		       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The more you miss something, the more important it becomes!

Njan
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From: ngopalas@ha02.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: A-B-C-D of nonimmigrant visa (1991)
Organization: The University of Alabama
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:53:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.043502.3397@tamsun.tamu.edu>, e422sk@tamuts.tamu.edu (Kalara Sunny) writes:
|> 
|>   B-2	For pleasure travel, temp. visitors , immidiate family of B-1
|> 
|>   		Level of difficulty  B-1  5
|>   			             B-2  5 for people aged 55+
|>                                           6 for people 40+ to 55
|>   					  7 for others
|>   					  9 for unmarried woman 
					~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is quite interesting. So in the view of the INS, an unmarried woman
has a greater chance of sticking on eh? Curious as to why they think so.
Any comments?   

|> For corrections pl. send a note to Kalara@tamphys.bitnet
|>   				   Kalara@phys.tamu.edu
|> For flames, send a message to Blackholes@tamphys.bitnet.
|> 
|>   
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From: cosc177y@jane.uh.edu (92H02966)
Subject: from the one and only MASOCHISTO MUKHOPADHYAYA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:11:00 GMT

hope you find this interesting!

YOU BEAT -> I CRY
I CRY    -> YOU LAUGH
YOU LAUGH-> I LAUGH
....BETTER YOU BEAT!
	
		- Sir Thinkax Crazionsa.

Any extensions to the same are wweellccoommee.

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From: ravis@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (ravi.krishnaswamy)
Subject: Re: Rapes
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:53:56 GMT

> From cbfsb!att!linac!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!Jane.UH.EDU!MECE1E3 Tue Jul 21 07:44:19 EDT 1992
> Article: 82446 of soc.culture.indian
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
> Path: cbfsb!att!linac!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!Jane.UH.EDU!MECE1E3
> 
> In article <1992Jul15.214218.5893@athena.cs.uga.edu>, venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (Gopakumar VENUGOPALAN) writes:
> >
> >  After having read the recent posting on the (alleged) atrocity in 
> >  Bengal,I recollect similar reports almost every six months or so 
> >  Is rape therefore justified?

> This is where the true religion comes in. All these people think that if
> they go and pray to some God their deeds will be forgotten. If they knew
> what the true religion is they could not have asked for protection to a
> god for their deeds. True religion is required not only to fight evil but
> also all the false religions
> Arindam
> 

It is not the religion that makes one to take shelter under God. It is the
sins (wrong doings. I do not want to get flamed for using a religious word)
one commits that makes one afraid. When you can not go talk about in public
you go to God. One wants to think that there is someone listening and a way
relieving the burden of guilt.

More over the recent line up at the "prestigious shrines" in India and elsewhere
the money is just poring in and most of it is "black money". People who
accumilate the wealth in the wrong ways, try to "please" the alimghty
and think they do not have to feel guilty. 

The truth of the matter is most of the people I see at temples are crooks.
There are a few genuine believers in god, doing good things in life and
really come for worshipping. 

ravi
From: PMITRA@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Pritha Mitra-stiff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A Question Regarding Kishori Amonkar
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:32:20 GMT
Reply-To: PMITRA@pucc.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University, NJ
Disclaimer: Author bears full responsibility for contents of this article


I have a question about a recording made by Kishori Amonkar.  Recently, someone
on the net had high praise for her recording of the Shri Vishnu Sahasranamavali
put out by Music Today.  I am a big fan of Kishori Amonkar, but I am not sure
what type of vocal music is contained in the Shri Vishnu Sahasranamavali.  I
like most devotional music (i.e. bhajans, dhrupad, shloka, and aarti), but I
don't like stotra very much.  The melodies for some stotras can be quite nice,
but the endless repitition of a single phrase can be tedious.

My question is this: What types of songs are contained in the Shri Vishnu
Sahasranamavali, particularly the version by Kishori Amonkar?  Is it just a
bunch of stotras praising Vishnu?  For those people who have this recording,
what is your opinion of it?  What other recordings in the Bhaktimala series
released by Music today are good?

Actually, I guess I have more than one question.  If someone could e-mail a
reply to any of these questions I would appreciate it very much.

pmitra@pucc.princeton.edu

P.S. Could someone cross-post this to rec.music.indian.classical for me, its
     not available at my site.  Thanks again!
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From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: alt.culture.kerala (r.f.d. kinda thing)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:37:29 GMT

>>1] God, cant even smile without being questioned these days.
>>   The whole state was declared 100 literate after the missions,
>
>That's the whole point I am a little suspicious of these "100 literate"
>claims, there is  a catch or external factor in these calculation.
>How will the state be "100 literate" if there are new born children
>everyday, so there must be a qualifying factor like a certain age
>group for these calculations.
>

1] Simple, if the kids dont know the three Rs at birth they get
   stamped "Rejected" and sent to the nieghbouring states.
   Where they sometimes achieve great fame and go under names
   like MGR and Phoenix.
   
   Stupid Question.
   Stupid Answer :-)

>
>		Yes it was enjoyable they never made me feel your
>		absence.

2] I am sure you must have enjoyed it.
    Nothing like old friends.
    
3] Nice Flaming. 

4] Stay Cool.
   

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From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: Hindu Refugees
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:55:50 GMT

In article <92207.195728DXA4@psuvm.psu.edu> <DXA4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>s. Characteristically Singhal went on to add: "When a similar situation had
>arisen in Kuwait, the government of Bharat had taken immediate steps to evecua-
>te all such stranded Bharatvashis through air flights." As the VHP never tires
>of reminding newsmen, most of those stranded in Kuwait were Muslims. Why, it
>asks, can't a similar effort be made on behalf of the Hindus?
>
> Dinesh Agrawal......

One of the motivations for the GOI to remove Indians 
from Kuwait was that many indians there were rich (I mean rich rich)
with high placed connections in India who were responsible for the 
tremendous pressure on GOI to evacuate the people. These Indians 
were also seen as good source of foreign income since most of them 
had overseas accounts in Britain/US/Swiss etc. which would ultimately
have to be cashed into India.

This does not seem to be true for the Indians in Afghanistan. No 
one in India really seems to bother about them as they did for 
their relatives in Kuwait. I don't think religion had any role to 
play in evacuation of Indians from Kuwait. Only a little above 50%
were muslims. The rest were Hindus/Christians etc. 

On this issue, I think all Indians should stand by BJP if they 
can make the GOI do something about the refugees from Afghan. 
GOI's silence is deafening. 
(However, I do believe that BJP would seem less hypocritical if 
it could divert its RJB Mandir's funds towards these refugees).

Perhaps another reason for not being able to evacuate the refugees
from Afghanistan might be that the Airlines are unwilling 
to evacuate them; since there is no hope of these refugees being 
able to pay up for their evacuation. However, in the case of the 
Kuwaiti Indians, the Airlines was confident enough to ask every 
Indian evacuated to sign a bond saying that they would pay up 
what ever the Airlines later deemed fit. This was stamped into 
their passports so that these people could not get out of India 
again without paying the airlines their due. Naturally, every 
Indian from kuwait signed the bond. 

regards,
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From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Degrading social and political life.
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:54:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul23.031633.10839@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes...
>>My opinion is the nation is going through a moral depression. No one is  
>>optimistic, or motivated. I call it a 'nation in frustration'. Lack of  
>>leadership is the key problem. Over and over again our so called leaders  
>Well, I am. And leaders are not born but made. What's preventing you?
>Arindam

 Arindam, I think that you, being a Bengali, read: Bahubal o' Bakkyabal by
 Bankim  Chandra Chatterjee. Your foolish day-dreaming will disappear !!!!
 Otherwise, try to have some serious female company !!!! Too much of religious
 attachment plus no `charms' have metamorphosed you into an insipid talking
 hormone !!!!!

 - deb chatterjee
(a GOOD SAMARITAN)
From: kishore@simius.as.nps.navy.mil (Kishore Sengupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Getting a multiple entry H-1 visa from India
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:02:08 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA


Have folks in s.c.i. had experience in getting a multiple entry H-1
visa from a US consulate in India, given that they have an approved
petition and an expired H-1 multiple entry visa? I'd appreciate hearing
about first hand/second hand experiences about the process, the kinds 
of documents that are needed, etc. 

Thanks.

Kishore Sengupta
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From: AZSSK@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: The remarks..but it is such a poorest nation..
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:07:57 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

IT was really very bad to hear the commentson the t.v. about India.  I do not u
nderstand what made thecommmentrator tothink that way. May be he has never been
 to India or does not have a good General Knowledge.  The fact that India is no
t doing so well is not because ofthelack of astro-turf surfaces but because the
rules and regulations of the Hockey game have been changed so much in the recen
t past that they are more suitable for the soccer playing European nations.
From: shamik@cs.umd.edu (Shamik Sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Olympics, Bob and the toilet-paper shortage
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:16:40 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


     OPEN LETTER TO  ENBECEE  
    --------------------------


Dear Mr/Mrs  Enbecee,

   This letter  is to  protest the manner in which your
   announcer  Bobby Costalot  handled the opening
   ceremony of the XXVth  Asswipics.  Displaying his
   abundant ignorance with gay abandon, he actually
   had the nerve to declare that :
    " India  is such a poor country  that its people
      don't even have toilet paper "

  
   May I humbly bring to your notice that a full 0.03 %
   of India's population uses toilet paper , and that
   too on a daily basis  ( or almost daily, or more than
   daily, or whatever ).  May I also add that in the city
   of Patiala, where the Sports Authority of India trains
   its asswipers, more than 1 % of the population is hooked
   on to toilet paper.  I challenge you to name any
   American city where the percentage of toilet-paper users
   is three times the national average.  So Bobby's comment
   is not only factually wrong, its absolutely shit.  

   I would also like to point out that India's performance
   has been adversely affected by the introduction of
   astropaper  in International competition.  The Indians
   have always been good at the hand-to-hand passing
   skills required by the toilet-mug style and the 
   introduction of astro-paper is an obvious attempt to
   stifle our skills.

   You may ask - " Why are the Pakis so good , then ?".
   I submit to you that the Pakis , while pretending
   to use the Indian style had always had a style of
   their own -  the kurta-pull-and-wipe  style. Now  you
   know why they wear those long kurtas.  Obviously
   the shift to astropaper was not too much of a change
   in style for them,  though sometimes they get confused 
   and reuse the paper.


   Therefore, I request you to please oblige me by
   firing Mr. Costalot and by using your influence to
   make the Asswipics organisers  award different  medals for 
   different asswiping styles.   While making this
   small and humble request, however, I am quite aware 
   that you shall pay no attention to me.
   You Americans can see no further than your own 50 states,
   and even then you must have blind spots because you
   can see Alaska without seeing Canada, and you can see
   Hawaai from Florida and yet you ignore Mexico.

   Yet, be sure that one day, your sins will catch up 
   with you. Our history books are thicker than yours, our culture
   is richer, our families  have more values, and our
   asswiping style has withstood the tests of time.
   Soon shall come the day when you shall wipe our
   asses, and you won't be given no astropaper either.

   Thanking you,

   Regards,

   Shamik
  

P.S.  Sorry   for infringing  upon your area
      of expertise, Mr Murthy Gundekota.
   
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