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From: gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal vs. Purdue (was: Weekly top 25)
Date: 13 Sep 92 04:22:28 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

In article  <randall.715995473@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>After Saturday's game, the only Cal question mark is the pass defense.
>They may give up points to a good passing team like Kansas.  But
>neither Kansas nor Purdue have the team speed, size, offense
>coaching skill, or depth of the Bears.  Neither team will be able
>to run on Cal, which will mean forced passes i.e. interceptions.
>Cal will beat Purdue 31-19 and Kansas 33-24.  You heard it here first.

Purdue 41 "soon to be unranked" Cal 14.  'nuff said.

You're right, Purdue does not have the team speed, size, or depth of
the Bears.  But coaching?  Jim Colletto and his coaching staff did a
great job last year, taking a team with poor fundamentals under Akers
and turning it into a mildly competitive team.  If a very young Purdue
can start well and end up with 5 or 6 wins, it will again be an
excellent accomplishment.  Cal had a bad game, but there was also
little evidence that Cal had any advantage from a coaching standpoint.

Oh, by the way, Purdue had little trouble running the ball against
Cal.  This was really no surprise to Purdue fans as the Boilers ran
with success against most teams last year.

Purdue 41 Cal 14.  No not a typo!  I was at the game.  I arrived 5
minutes late and Purdue had already scored and were up 7-0.  I then
saw Purdue play their best half of football in at least 10 years.  I
am more and more impressed by Jim Coletto as time passes by.  He has
got this team playing good solid fundamental football.  Purdue had NO
turnovers in the game (the second successive season opener with no
turnovers).  Purdue capatilized on Cal mistakes and didn't make many
of their own.  Ricky Calloway did fumble after making a reception but
it was recovered by Purdue.  Purdue had its running game going and pin
point passing by sophmore QB Matt Pike kept Cal's defense completely
off balance in the first half.  Purdue turned conservative in the
second half, both on offense and defense, and Cal did move the ball
pretty well (they out gained Purdue by 50 yards on the day), but they
still had trouble finding the endzone, only outscoring Purdue 10-3.

Still in shock!
Carl
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:02:39 GMT

In article <BuA5G2.8DI@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (William P. Jones) writes:

   go deep giving their offense yet another weapon. Now that Derrick Brown has 
   graduated, the pass to the tight end has entered the play book.
   Go Irish! Beat Michigan

Serious question, no chain pulling: What did/do the ND fans think of Brown?
He had all of this hype, but it seemed like either he never delivered or
Holtz never asked much of him.  Did you guys think he was all world like the
NFL scouts seemed to, were you frustrated that he wasn't used more, or did
you generally think it was hype?

Bill
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: What is a Boilermaker?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:16:38 CDT

In article <192thcINNdr2@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> laura@sdd.hp.com (Laura Mansfield) writes:
>Like it says in the subject line...
>
>What is a Boilermaker?
>
>Laura Mansfield

Isn't this in a FAQ list somewhere?  It should be listed right beside "What
is a Hoosier?"  OK, here it goes:

At the turn of the century, Purdue was starting up a football program to
compete with some of the established ones in the state (Wabash College,
Depauw - my how things change!).  In order to get some big guys to play,
they allowed local railroad workers, police officers, farmers, and
boilermakers (remember, everything was steam-powered back then) to take 1
class at Purdue, and then they were eligible to play football.  [as a
sideline, I believe that made Purdue the 1rst school to *cheat*, although
there was no NCAA rules governing this back then...]  Needless to say,
Purdue crushed the schools like Wabash and Depauw.  Angry at this turn of
events, the students at those schools started calling the Purdue players
names, like "Hayseeds", "Cornpokes", and of course, "Boilermakers".  Well,
the Purdue students were quite proud of this, and the name "Boilermaker"
stuck.  A locomotive engine is the official mascot of the school!

[I could also say a Boilermaker is a person who doesn't appreciate
Californians coming into their state wearing straw hats and calling them
hicks, but a certain football score from Saturday already got that point
across]

And while I'm at it, the best explanation of "Hoosier" is that back when
canals were being made along the Ohio River, a man named John Hoosier came
into Indiana to hire workers, because they worked much harder and longer
(no sick sexual references, please) than the lazy workers from Kentucky.
Not taking this lightly, the Kentuckians started calling these people
Hoosiers.

-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: mark@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU questions
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:50:40 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <1992Sep14.144121.58870@cc.usu.edu>, fulks@cc.usu.edu writes:
> 
> 
> If I am not mistaken, BYU lost two in a row last year to UCLA and
> Penn State.  By my calculation, that is also the last time BYU
> PLAYED two teams in a row!
>

	Make that three teams in a row.  They played FSU, UCLA then Penn State
all in a row.  These were three road games however....I can't remember when BYU
lost two in a row at home.

-Mark
 
> 
> 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Subject: Re: Score Trivia...
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:12:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.164634.27633@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.144906.13494@cs.brown.edu> cs169061@cs.brown.edu (Michael
> Kalman) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep15.022458.29522@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, dew6c@uvacs.cs.V
>irginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) writes:
>>|> I remember someone telling me once that the most
>>|> lopsided score of all times was back around 1910
>>|> or so, when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0, and
>>|> the game was apparently called halfway through the
>>|> third quarter.
>>|>
>>|> Does this have a prayer of being true?
>>|>
>>|> - Dallas
>>
>>
>>         Yes, I've read about it in a book titled 'Wierd
>>Moments in Sports.'  I can't confirm whether or not the
>>game was called before its completion, but I can add
>>another interesting tidbit:  For all those pts, Georgia
>>Tech did not score even once on a forward pass that day.
>>I guess they were more civilized about running up scores
>>back then :-)
>
>I also heard that there were no first downs for either team in that game, which
>must mean that Georgia Tech scored every time they touched the ball.
>
>Also: I read that Cumberland really did not want to play that game, and knew 
>they were going to be absolutely destroyed, but there was a clause in the 
>agreement that if Cumberland forfeited the game rather than play it, they would
>have to pay GT a certain amount of money.
>
>PDunn

Isn't it true that they played "make 'em take 'em," i.e., Cumberland
kicked-off after every TD?

Andy

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jlawlor@ptdi12.intel.com (Jay Lawlor ~)
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Reply-To: jlawlor@ptdcs2.intel.com
Organization: Intel Portland Technology Development
	<1992Sep11.174039.16004@ichips.intel.com> <1992Sep11.213758.24133@inel.gov>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:24:33 GMT

>>>>> On Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:37:58 GMT, tqr@inel.gov  (Tom Repetti) said:

Tom> In article <1992Sep11.174039.16004@ichips.intel.com>
Tom> henstrom@pdx030.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Alex Henstrom) writes:
> ....
>In sumise the article stated that BYU was the most hated team because:
> ...
>        They are Mormons and there is a belief that all Mormons are racially
>            intolerant. This due to the fact that afro-americans could not
>            hold the priesthood in the Church until the late 70's.
>
> .... Most Mormons are not bigots despite belief otherwise. The Mormon church 
> teaches against racial intolerance.
>

Tom> I live in a Mormon-dominated area of Idaho and have read a lot
Tom> about the LDS church. Just a quickie to set the record straight
Tom> here.

Tom> It's true that the Mormon church teaches against racial
Tom> intolerance, but that's not the whole story. The Book of Mormon
Tom> says that Way Back When, there was a war in Heaven and those who
Tom> sided with the Devil's revolt against God had their skins turned
Tom> a dark color as part of their punishment/shame. This is what the
Tom> LDS church teaches about the origin of dark-skinned people. I
Tom> look at the black players on BYU's team and wonder whether they
Tom> know this.

This is not what the Book of Mormon says and is not what the LDS church
teaches.  But enough.  Back to football!
--
Jay Lawlor                                         jlawlor@ptdcs2.intel.com
Mailstop: AL4-57      Phone: (503) 642-8050        FAX:   (503) 649-3996
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Subject: Re: SWC Review for 9/5
Reply-To: ped@BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 18:26:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.140316.25366@rtsg.mot.com>, merklin@rtsg.mot.com
(Teresa B. Merklin) writes:
|>
|>I have a theory. There is not a single football coach in the SWC with 
|>something that even resembles a personality! Just watch the coaches shows,
|>and compare them to other coaches shows from other conferences.
|>
|>I am dead serious.
|>

Oh, sure, as if Lou Holtz had one.  I remember one A&M and nd played in
the Cotton Bowl.  His press conference was the pits.

Beat the Class of '90 hell outta t.u. (Tulsa)!

Pedro '90

Name:	  Pedro C. Luna	                      |   
E-mail:   ped@bnr.ca                          |   
Org:      Bell-Northern Research              |

"Pico de gallo, you oughta give it a try-o
 even if you're from Ohio, it'll get you by-o.
 Don't get it in your eye-o unless you want to cry-o
 so come on, don't be shy-o, eat some pico de gallo!"

    --- Trout Fishing in America 

                                
                                
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Big 10 and the Rose Bowl
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:22:41 GMT

In article <JOHNDOE92Sep15.094053@asp.inmet>
johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Sep15.030852.24707@athena.mit.edu> tater@athena.mit.edu (Mazer Rackham) writes:
>>I have an interesting question for you trivia people out there.  How many Big 10
>>teams have won the Rose Bowl and what years did they do it?  There is a trivia
>>question about it that a group of us have been debating.  We thought there were
>>only three, but then we couldn't decide on who.  In other words, we are really
>>messed up and would appreciate it if someone straightened us out.  Thanks in
>>advance!!!!!
>
>89/1/2-Michigan 22 USC 14
>88/1/1-Michigan State 20 USC 17
>81/1/1-Michigan 23 Washington 6
>74/1/1-Ohio State 42 USC 21
>69/1/1-Ohio State 27 USC 16
>67/1/1-Purdue 14 USC 13
>65/1/1-Michigan 34 Oregon State 7
>64/1/1-Illinois 17 Washington 7
>62/1/1-Minnesota 21 UCLA 3
>59/1/1-Iowa 38 California 12
>58/1/1-Ohio State 10 Oregon 7
>57/1/1-Iowa 35 Oregon State 19
>56/1/2-Michigan State 17 UCLA 14
>55/1/1-Ohio State 20 USC 7
>54/1/1-Michigan State 28 UCLA 20
>52/1/1-Illinois 40 Stanford 7
>51/1/1-Michigan 14 California 6
>50/1/2-Ohio State 17 California 14
>49/1/1-Northwestern 20 California 14
>48/1/1-Michigan 49 USC 0
>47/1/1-Illinois 45 UCLA 14
>
>1947 was the first year the big 10 and pac were issued automatic berths to
>the rose bowl.  Michigan beat Stanford in the first Rose Bowl in 1902, 49-0,
>for a big 10 school's only other rose bowl appearance, though i don't know
>whether the big 10 was even a conference back then, so i won't include it.
>
>so, the tally is:
>
>21 victories
>   by
> 7 different big 10 teams
>
>-johndoe
 
The original poster may have asked a 'trick' question.  The 1992 Information
Please Sports Almanac provides the following information about the Big Ten
conference:
  "Originally founded in 1895 as the Intercollegiate Conference of Faculty
   Representatives, better known as the Western Conference....
   Unofficially called the Big Ten from 1912 until Chicago withdrew after
   1939 season, then Big Nine from 1940 until Michigan St. began conference
   play in 1953.  Formally renamed Big Ten in 1984."
 
In light of the last sentence quoted, the Big Ten has won only TWO Rose Bowls.
 
-- 
Jon_Schmidt@stortek.com  Storage Technology Corporation
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston)
Subject: Re: ND vs. Michigan
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:36:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.175805.15130@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao) writes:
>   In fact, the announcer did mess up.  I was mildly supprised to hear ND
>elected to receive in the first half but Michigan actually received the
>kickoff.  
> 
>     
Huh?  Were we watching the same game?  :)
In fact, ND received both kickoffs.


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Steve Johnston                                Go Blue! 
ssj@ais.org                              Webber, Rose & Co. 1993
Steve_Johnston@um.cc.umich.edu          NCAA Nat'l. Champs to be
Bluefront@HeroMud II (Heroine)
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From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UW HUSKIES WEEK-2
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:00:42 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

chyang@waldorf.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:


>I heard the score between the HUSKIES and the Badgers was 27-10.
>What is wrong with the HUSKIES?!  Could someone fill me in or 
>give me a synoposis of the game???  

>I mean this really blows my mind, did Don James put in the Huskies
>second team or something?  

>Do they look like that they are going to get their acts together 
>by next week???  

I guess you know you've arrived when you can beat another school by
17 points and people want to know what's wrong with the team and all
the news reports say they "struggled".  I'll take a few more years
of this struggling...

-- 

Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Hmmm  Texas to Big 10!!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:33:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.160643.20935@doug.cae.wisc.edu>,
saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:

> In article <1992Sep9.184554.11537@chpc.utexas.edu>
> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
> >
> >Besides, it would be nice to have a conference foe
> >within driving distance... what's the closest Big 10 school to
> >Texas, anyway? This move seems a little crazy--I also thought
> >the SEC was more likely.
> 
> Iowa (Iowa City) and Illinois (Champaign-Urbana) are practically equidistant
> from Texas-Austin, and Bloomington is a shade further.  This addition would
> hardly be less logical than that of Penn State, travelwise.
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
I beg to differ.

Driving time from Austin to Champaign-Urbana is approximately 17 hours
passing through Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, and Illinois on your shortest
route.  What's the driving time from Penn State to Ohio State? 6-7 hours?
At least Pennsylvania and Ohio border each other.  As far as general
accessibility, however, Texas is in Austin and Penn State is in the
absolute middle of nowhere.

The Big-8 or the SEC are much more logical for Texas geographically, and
only the Big-8 is logical in terms of conference size.

-Mike Noonan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Asians in the NFL
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:21:27 GMT

sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:
>}} >anybody know if Eugene Chung is the first Asian to play
>}} >in the NFL?
>What about John Lee (?) who kicked at Notre Dame (I think, boy
>this is fuzzy).  Didn't he play on one of the California teams
>for a while?

Interesting mixup, Steve.

According to the SI story about kickers (in last week's NFL preview issue),
John Lee was born in South Korea, played at UCLA, and kicked for the
St. Louis Cardinals for one season.

But kickers don't count.  If they did, then what about Ali Haji-Sheikh?
I don't really know where he's from, but most of the Middle East is in Asia.


--Gidi


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From: trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: Posting request 
Reply-To: trice@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 15:41:32 GMT

Could everyone please follow a simple posting style, please?

Put the name of the school you are commenting about at the 
beginning of the subject line.

Examples:

Pitt: woofing and such
GT: Georgia Tech 1992 schedule
ND: Notre Dame this past weekend


This will allow those of us who don't care about another conference
to put those schools in our KILL files.

1000 thank you's!
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: z0w6103@rigel.tamu.edu (WU, ZUOGUO)
Subject: A&M over LSU
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:15:00 GMT

A&M 31	LSU 22

Go Aggies!!!
From: marc@yogi.austin.ibm.com (Marc J. Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Tired of UT fans?
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:37:12 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <stricher-020992180057@stayman.ocean.fsu.edu> stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
>Marc J. Stephenson is obviously confused:
>
>> >I was just curious how many other people out there are as tired of the UT
>> >attitude that is out there this year?
>
>> >Christopher Judd
>> >(CRJ14530@ACUVax.ACU.edu)
>
>> Perhaps you could elaborate on what you consider this "attitude" to be?  
>
>> Or, perhaps, are you just trying to start another useless, endless, whiny
>> discussion about the merits and bad points of UT (with respect to fans,
>> athletic programs, rivals, engineering programs, class, attitude towards
>> A&M, etc.)?  Naaahhh.  Couldn't be. :-)
>
>UT is very much different than t.u. One is a bunch of Volunteers, the other
>is populated by some Clueless Cows [tm]* who sip tea.
>
>James
>
>* [tm] 1992 Texas A&M University

Seeing as the original poster is from Abilene Christian University, a 
university in Abilene, Texas, I considered it more reasonable that he was
referring to The University of Texas at Austin than any numbers of other
reasonable interpretations of "UT" in the realm of college football.  Had the
poster been from a location in the Southeast, I would have deduced a reference
to the University of Tennessee at Knoxville.

I'm still waiting for elaboration on the original post.  Your post was
very helpful, though. :-)
-- 
Marc Stephenson		    IBM AWD (Advanced Workstations Division - Austin,TX)
DISCLAIMER: The content of this posting is independent of official IBM position.
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From: rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Asians in the NFL
Date: 12 Sep 92 04:03:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

There was that lineman named Michael? Chung or something.  He was drafted
in the first round a couple of years ago.



-- 
-Richard
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: Bama, God, and Bear Bryant
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:55:54 GMT

wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:

>Bear Bryant went to his grave with an 0-4 record against Notre Dame. 
>Could it be that God is Catholic after all?

Naw.  Cause Danny Ford (sort of a Bryant apprentice) took one from ND
up there, wherever the heck ND is...
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: swc,rice, fake grass
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:46:26 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Sep5.1539.11602@execnet> "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com> writes:
>Weird Stat of the Week:

>
>Doesn't grass grow in Texas? 

First, since astroturf was introduced as a playing surface at the
Astrodome, I suppose Texans feel some sort of obligation?  (Isn't
Ownby or wherever SMU plays real turf?)

Also, we have to make sure the visiting cheerleaders don't start
grazing on our lucious green grass.

Gary Beason
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li)
Subject: UTAH 24 : #11 NEBRASKA 21 
Keywords: ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN
Organization: University of Utah
Distribution: USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 20:11:33 GMT


	Believe it or not, it will happen tomorrow.


JLI, PSU '90