HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU
Errors-to: epmdf@YMIR.BITNET
X-Envelope-to: PMDF-L@IRLEARN.BITNET
X-VMS-To: IN%"info-pmdf@YMIR.CLAREMONT.EDU"
Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:46:06 GMT
From:         Chris Michels <cvm@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Bad return address
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

I have a problem with MS-Mail not using the correct address when
replying to a message from a POP3 client whose mail address is on our
VAX.  I have a copy of the queued message on the VAX before it gets sent
to the MS-Mail system.  All other machines that the POP client sends to,
reply to CVM@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU.  The MS-Mail system replies to
CVM@PC19.UCC.NAU.EDU.  Before I go to Microsoft or the MS-Mail
discussion list, I need to know is what the first line in this file is
used for.  That is the line that says:

m;cvm@pc19.ucc.nau.edu

What does PMDF use this for when communicating with the MS-Mail
SMTP gateway?  Here is the queued message that causes the problem:

===========================Start of Test Message=============================
m;cvm@pc19.ucc.nau.edu
cvm@msmail.ucc.nau.edu

Received: from pc19.ucc.nau.edu by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF #2384 ) id
 <01GRAMSVNSWG000JRP@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU>; Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:15:47 MST
Date: 18 Nov 1992 11:15:47 -0700 (MST)
Date-warning: Date header was inserted by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU
From: cvm@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (Chris Michels)
Subject: Example of reply address problem
To: cvm@msmail.ucc.nau.edu
Message-id: <01GRAMSW0E82000JRP@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

This should come from cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu

--
Chris
============================End of Test Message=============================

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Chris Michels -- Systems Programmer             cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Northern Arizona University -- Flagstaff, AZ    cvm@nauvax.bitnet
Phone: (602) 523-6495                           N7YIU
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X-VMS-To: IN%"DAN@INNOSOFT.COM"
X-VMS-Cc: IN%"info-pmdf@YMIR.CLAREMONT.EDU"
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 92 04:19:07 GMT
From:         Chris Michels <cvm@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: forwarding mail for testing
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

>> I am trying to evaluate MS-Mail.  To help do this I would like to have
>> all mail that is sent to my VMS mail account also sent to my MS-Mail
>> account. I am currently using the W action of deliver to do this, but it
>> does not keep the original headers intact.  Any suggestions on how I can
>> accomplish this?  I use deliver for other purposes also.  Could I
>> eliminate the W action in my MAIL.DELIVERY file, change my forwarding
>> address in VMS mail to be: in%"~cvm,cvm@msmail.ucc.nau.edu" and still
>> have deliver work?
>
>Use the P action instead of W or F.  The problem with W and F is that they
>use VMS MAIL to forward the message and this is too much of a disruption to
>the headers.  If you use the P action, then PMDF SEND will be used instead
>of VMS MAIL:
>
>  * * * A P "cvm@msmail.ucc.nau.edu"
>
>Dan

The P action keeps the headers intact but it does not leave the
originator of the message as the sender.  What I really need is a an
action that uses PMDF SEND to send the mail and makes the From: field be
the original sender of ther message.

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Chris Michels -- Systems Programmer             cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Northern Arizona University -- Flagstaff, AZ    cvm@nauvax.bitnet
Phone: (602) 523-6495                           N7YIU
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X-VMS-Cc: CCAJR
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:57:18 +1030
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From:         Rollo.Ross@LEVELS.UNISA.EDU.AU
Subject:      MAILSERV crashes when mapping file used
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

        I have been trying to use the "MAILSERV_ACCESS" mapping to control
access to a mailing list. Everything I try causes MAILSERV to crash like this:

>$ run pmdf_root:[exe]mailserv.exe
>Debugging enabled.
>  Command limit set to 2147483647
>  Maximum blocks per message set to 2147483647
>  Maximum lines per message set to 2147483647
>  MAILSERV reply address is: mailserv-reply@Levels.UniSA.Edu.Au
>
>Starting processing of PMDF_ROOT:[QUEUE.mailserv]ZZ01GR87M48MDG9I489P.00
>  Message is from: CCAJR@Levels.UniSA.Edu.Au
>  Command: send/list sinelist
>  CLI$DCL_PARSE returned status of 196609
>Processing SEND/LIST command.
>  Access check: SENDLIST|SINELIST|CCAJR@Levels.UniSA.Edu.Au
>Access violation, reason mask=01, virtual address=00248568, PC=000D56A0,
>                                                               PSL=03C00000
>Symbolic stack dump follows
>module name     routine name                     line       rel PC    abs PC

>                                                           000D56A0  000D56A0
>MAILSERV        SEND_LIST_ROUTINE                5729      000003CA  00008DCA
>                                                           7FF7677B  7FF7677B
>                                                           00010F7A  00010F7A
>MAILSERV        PROCESS_COMMAND                  6843      000000E9  0000E5A1
>MAILSERV        PROCESS_MESSAGE                  6990      000006E5  0000EE75
>MAILSERV        MAILSERV                         7172      000000D6  0000F96E
>$ goto out1

        My MAPPINGS. file contains only:
>MAILSERV_ACCESS
>
>    SENDLIST|SINELIST|*    $Y

        The crash even happens for messages asking for a SEND/LIST of a
mailing list other than SINELIST. The crash goes away when I remove the
MAPPINGS. file and recompile, but then I'm blocked by the default action of
not allowing SEND/LIST.

        I am using a compiled configuration, and I am remembering to install
it on all nodes in the cluster after using CNBUILD. It's PMDF 4.1, of course.

                                    Rollo Ross, Network Manager (CLW campuses)

Computer Centre,  University of South Australia, The Levels, SA 5095, Australia
Ph +61 8 302 3158 Fax 302 3385 DTE 505282622004  Rollo.Ross@Levels.UniSA.Edu.Au
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X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0
Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 92 00:46:13 GMT
From:         "Khatri, Shah" <Shah.Khatri@ASU.EDU>
Subject:      Routing outgoing mail through another host
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:52:08 +0100
From:         martinez@IRIS-DCP.ES
Subject:      Help: mapping file for VMS addresses
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l


I wouldd like to see all occurrences of   PSI%NETWORK1...   being replaced by
      PSI$NETWORK2...   in addresses.

According to the manual, I have created a PMDF_MAPPING_FILE that reads

...

PMDF-TO-VMSMAIL

   PSI$%IBERPAC.*                        PSI$%ARTIX.$0$>

...

but doesn't seem to work. Am I on the right way?
Any help appreciated.

Thanks. Ignacio
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Ignacio Martinez     e-mail:  martinez@rediris.es
RedIRIS/FUNDESCO              C=es;ADMD=mensatex;PRMD=iris;O=rediris;S=martinez
Alcala, 61           tel:     + 34 1 4351214
28014  Madrid        fax:     + 34 1 5781773
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:32:00 EST
              <ASHE-L@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
From:         GILBERT KLAJMAN <KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Zip Codes

Hi,

Did you get any replies to your query?  I'd certainly be interested in such a
source.  Sometime back I was toying with the idea of creating such a file in
SPSS format (but it could also be made available in other formats as well).

I never got the project off the ground... but I'm still curious about whether
such files exist out there.

Cheers,

Gil Klajman, Sociology, Montclair State, Upper Montclair, NJ  07043
KLAJMAN@APOLLO.MONTCLAIR.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:38:15 EST
              <ASHE-L@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
From:         SUA@NIHCU.BITNET
Subject: Authorization for e-mail distribution. Thanks.

Dear Post Master:

I am requesting your authorization to distribute this e-mail
among your discussion group.

Thanks in advance

===============> cut here <=========================

                      ACCESSING DATABASES OF THE
         NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE THROUGH ELECTRONIC
                                  MAIL

                               .........


During the I Regional Congress on Health Sciences Information held on
October 1992 in Sao Paulo, Brazil. The Pan American Health Organization,
Regional Office of the World Health Organization officially launched BITNIS
(Batch BITNET/Internet to NLM Intercommunication Service), for Latin
American and Caribbean Countries.

BITNIS it is a new mechanism for accessing all databases of the National
Library of Medicine (NLM) in Bethesda, Maryland. This method involves use
of GRATEFUL MED, BITNET, internet, UUCP, FIDONET, and a software
called SMED.

BITNIS was developed by Dr. Andres Stutzin and  Victor Cid of the
University of Chile, in collaboration with the National Library of Medicine
and the Pan American Health Organization.

BITNIS uses GRATEFUL MED (GM) to generate the desired bibliographic
search.  GM is a user-friendly software program that run on an IBM- XT, AT
or other compatible computer and that permits a user without experience to do
a bibliographic search of the Medical Library Analysis and Retrieval System
(MEDLARS) of the NLM.

GM allows formulation and modification of a search strategy before sending
via BITNET, internet, UUNET, etc. The search strategy is formatted by
SMED and then that "file" is sending by electronic mail through any network
to NLM internet node. The BITNIS gateway captures the message and
converts it for processing by the NLM computer.  The results of the search
then are returned by the NLM computer to the gateway where the file is
converted for transmission via computer network to the recipient's PC.

BIREME (Latin American and Caribbean Center for Health Sciences
Information), will be the coordinator for distribution of BITNIS passwords
through  its network.  BITNIS will is available to the scientific and academic
community on credit accounts bases.


                         Requirements

1.    IBM PC (XT, AT) compatible.
2.    Access to BITNET, internet, UUNET, econet, peacenet.
3.    Grateful Med version 6.0 + Smed 4.01
4.    Subscribe to BITNIS through BIREME (Latin American and
      Caribbean Center for Health Sciences Information Center.).



Dr. Carlos A. Gamboa
Regional Advisor in Medical Informatics
Panamerican Health Organization, Regional
Office of the World Health Organization
525 23rd Street N.W.
Washington., D.C. 20037
U S A
|===========================================
Phone: (202) 861-3300 / 3301
Fax:   (202) 223-5971
BITNET: "Carlos Gamboa" GAMBOACA@PAHOHQ.BITNET
internet: gamboa@nlm.nih.gov
From: HBC103T@SMSVMA.BITNET (Harry Cook)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ashe-l
Subject: Information please
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:27:47 GMT
              <ASHE-L@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
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Please send me information about ASHE-L including instructions for
subscribing.

Thank you.

Harry Cook
hbc103t@smsvma
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:39:40 EST
From: Daryl R. Hoffman <DRH4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l
Subject: Issuing Host commands from AF


  I have a question that may have been answered before, but I have not seen on
the list.  I have an AF application which issues a CMS Host command to get
information from another CMS user.  I want to display the message coming back
from the second user in an AF window.  I am issuing the rc=system(CMS command)
to execute the host command.

  Has anyone been able to put the results of the message coming back from a
CMS command or a 'TELL' message into an AF window for display ?

Daryl R. Hoffman              The Pennsylvania State University
Bitnet:   DRH4@PSUVM.BITNET   The Center for Academic Computing
Internet: DRH4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU  Sr. Appl Prog/Anal, Resource Administration
Office: (814) 865-0845        Fax: (814) 863-7049
From: W_URBAN@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l
Subject: MINID and MAXID
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:46:48 GMT
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    I have really been baffled by TFM under PROC MEANS and the
    description of MINID and MAXID.  What I would *like* to do is say

         PROC MEANS MIN MINID(ID) MAX MAXID(ID);
            VAR {many variables};

    where ID is a real id in the dataset.  Now I realize that this has
    to be done with the manipulation of the resulting dataset from an
    OUTPUT statement; but it looks like one has to specify a new
    variable name for each and every minid and maxid for every
    original variable.  Is there any way to say "do it for every
    variable in the VAR statement?

    will@unh.edu
From: sharp@SNUFF.CSD.SCAROLINA.EDU (Harry Sharp)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l
Subject: Annoying PROC REPORT Behavior
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:33:41 GMT
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As always when I have a particularly vexing problem, I return to the source
of most wisdom in the Universe, the Net.

I am trying to use PROC REPORT in SAS 6.07 under MVS/XA and things are
working just fine except for one minor problem.  It seems that REPORT
alphabetizes the formatted values of an ACROSS variable.  I guess in most
cases this isn't a problem, but in my case it is.  My formats are
student classes (e.g. Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, Senior, etc.), and
these just don't look right alphabetized (e.g. F J Se So).

I have looked in the book, talked to my local support people, and we've
come to the conclusion that maybe this 'feature', and I use that term
lightly, can't be circumvented.  If it can't, then I am going to have
to go back to custom designing my reports, and I think that would be
too bad as the output looks almost perfect.

Any suggestions or commiseration?  Is this going to be 'fixed' in a ZAP
to SAS?  Is anybody at SI listening? {hint hint}

Harry Sharp
[=============================================================================]
 USMail : Office of Institutional Planning & Research, USC, Columbia, SC 29208
 E-mail : sharp@snuff.csd.scarolina.edu (or) HESHARP at UNIVSCVM (BITNET)
 Lifetime Member Bear and Otter Lovers Society
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:36:00 PST
Reply-To:     AHKARP1@UCBCMSA.BITNET
From:         AHKARP1@UCBCMSA.BITNET
Subject:      visual analogue scales/statistics bulletin board.

I am very interested in learning about the use of visual analog scales, and
am wondering if anyone on the SAS-L list can point me in the right direction,
especially how the raw data are subsequently analyzed.  Also, does anybody
know if there are hardware/software available to "read" completed surveys
using these scales?

I know this isn't strictly a SAS issue, but thought someone on the list might
be able to help.  Also, isn't there also a STAT-L list for statistical issues?
If so, can someone tell me about that, too?

Thanks, Andrew Karp
        Pacific Gas&Electric Company and UC Berkeley Extension.

Happy Thanksgiving!!
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From:         Stephen Baker <sbaker@UMASSMED.UMMED.EDU>
Subject:      Friedman 2 way anova by rank
Comments: To: sas-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Can anyone tell me how one can do a Friedman 2 way ANOVA by rank in SAS?
I know it is readily done in SPSSx, but cannot find it in either STAT
or Proc guide. Thanks.
(please respond directly as am not subscribed to SAS-L anymore)
(


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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:46:00 +0100
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From:         Frank Poppe <POPPE@SWOV.NL>
Subject:      Info on SAS/GIS requested

CONTENT:  Question
SUMMARY:  Information on SAS/GIS requested
REL/PLTF: All

Dear SAS-L-members,

We (ie, our institute) are moving towards the application of GIS. We have not
yet decided which package best suits our needs (we are trying to define ourt
needs...).

We have almost all our data in SAS (on a VAX 4300), and we have some
map-datasets as well, together with some X-Y-oriented data. Occasionally we use
the mapping procedures from SAS/Graph.

We became very interested when we first heard about something called SAS/GIS.
But we don't have much information on it. We have a leaflet, which doesn't tell
very much beyond making clear that is not yet available. Our local SAS-office
cannot offer more info.

Who has heard anything more, from paper or through some (unofficial) talks?
When is it expected to be available, on which platforms?
What will be the functionality (e.g., compared with other packages)?

TIA,

_____________________________________________________________________________
 Frank Poppe             <poppe@swov.nl>                tel:   +31 70 3209323
 Institute for Road Safety Research SWOV                fax:   +31 70 3201261
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:40:34 -0600
Reply-To:     Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
From:         Kernon Gibes <gibes@SWIRL.MONSANTO.COM>
Subject:      RE: missing ascii files and macro
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Comments: cc: GIBES@tin.monsanto.com

 CONTENT:   Response (to Okerson's macro quesiton)
 SUMMARY:   Try using VMS FINDFILE function is a separate data step
 REL/PLTF:  6.06+/VMS
 E-ADDR:    gibes@swirl.monsanto.com
 NAME:      Kernon Gibes
 DATE:      17 November 1992

Barbara Okerson asks:

>I have a user who has several hundred ascii files that he needs to read in to
>process with SAS and he has a macro to do this.  The file names are mainly
>sequential but there are some numbers that there is no ascii file for.  In the
>macro when SAS reaches a value of the infile statement that is not there, SAS
>quits processing rather than printing an error and going on to the next
<stuff delelted>
>if data set a8.dat is missing, for example, SAS will quit processing.  Because
>of the type of data there will be some missing runs, but renumbering is not
>really a solution because the numbers identify the runs.
>
>Please tell me there is an obvious solution and I am just overlooking it.

One solution is given below.  It uses a separate data _NULL_ step to
ascertain whether the external file exists.  I don't make any claims that
this is an "obvious" or the simplest solution.

+---Example--------------------------------------------------------------+

   %macro test (prefix=a, number=10 );
     %do i = 1 %to &number;
       %let found = 0;
       data _null_;
           context = 0;
           fn = findfile( "&prefix&i..dat", context );
           if fn ^= ' ' then call symput( 'found', '1' );
           stop;
        run;
      %if &found = 1 %then %do;
        data test;
         infile "&prefix&i";
         input a b c;
        run;
      %end;
    %end;
   %mend;

  %test;
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 09:06:10 EST
From: Andrew A. Beveridge <ANDQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l
Subject: Re: Window License Fee Schedule and SPSS for Windows (The Worm Has Tur

Dear SAS-L:

I remember a few years ago when SAS PC came out SAS was going to run the same
way on every platform, and the notion was the eventually there would be some
cross-platform licensing approach.  SPSS at that time had different versions on
the PC and mainframe.

Now the Worm has turned.  SPSS for windows is a complete port to the PC, and
SAS PC is a crippled version of mainframe SAS.  Furthermore, upgrading the PC
version is frightfully expensive, while SPSS is getting very aggressive in term
s of marketting.

I think it would be instructive to find out what portions of SAS were really us
ed by most people on SAS/ List.  Because I think things are now completely out
of hand.

To move files from a VM mainframe to a LAN over FTP, I could not find out how
to do it in the $525 worth of SAS manuals I had purchased.  Rather, I had to po
st a query here.

My own guess is that SAS will not really catch on in the new distributed enviro
nment, because it is just too complicated.

People will not abandon LOTUS for FSCALC, Wordperfect for FSLETTER, Paradox, et
c. for PROC SQL, a real GIS for SAS/Graph or SAS/GIS.  But if we buy SAS we get
to pay for these "improvements."

Will SI do anything about this?  Now we can chose between to sets of manuals,
neither of which is complete or simple.

I know we are moving more and more to real micro based systems, and high end
Fortran VS stuff.  SAS maybe soup to nuts, but one has a hard time ordering the
right dish.

A few years ago IBM was riding high!

                                    Andy Beveridge
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