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From: uniforum@sobeco.com (UniForum Montreal Guest Account)
Subject: Re: >>>>>> Best Grad Schools for Computer Engineering?
Organization: UniForum Montreal
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:35:18 GMT

ssimmons@convex.com (Steve Simmons) writes:

>Ugh.... Don't choose a grad school!!!! Choose an advisor!!!!!

This cannot be over-emphasized.  I speak from personal experience.

Jean-Francois Lamy.
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: What was the intended advantage of using 36bits CPU?
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:40:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

There were several reasons for using other than 32 bits; in fact, few of
the early computers were 32 bits.  Some were 40 bits because the width
of the Hollerith punched card, the main input device at the time, was 
80 columns.  But the most common character sets used 6 bits/character,
and hence a multiple of 6 was reasonable.

Also, after reading cards columnwise instead of rowwise became feasible,
there was another reason, as the 12 columns were 2 6-bit bytes.  
(BTW, it did not take very long for punched card input to go from
the overwhelming method to oblivion.)

Some of these machines were 36 bits, some 48, and even some 60 bits.
All of these are multiples of 12, which had advantages until the large
move to 8-bit bytes and 9-track (8 + parity) instead of 7 track tapes.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
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From: shenkin@avogadro.barnard.columbia.edu (Peter S. Shenkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Advise on a paintjet printer
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:29:43 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Chem, Barnard College, Columbia U, New York
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In article <qjod8qc@twilight.wpd.sgi.com>
 story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.140216.20977@odin.corp.sgi.com>
 neafie@maxum.dallas.sgi.com (Terry Neafie) writes:

>>Can anybody recommend a Paintjet printer for an Indigo?

>With SGI's new Impressario print software, you can drive an HP DeskJet
>500C in full (well, 3-bit :) color with PostScript, SGI Image files,
>and ISO text.  

Great.  Now how about supporting the PaintJet?  The rationale is as follows.
The DeskJet is designed to do both text and color images;  the PaintJet is
superior as a purely color printer.  Most sites are happy to use a
PostScript b&w laser printer for text, but PostScript color printers are
expensive.  Anyone with a b&W laser printer seeking a good but inexpensive
way of getting color hardcopy is better off getting a PaintJet rather than
a DeskJet, from the point of view of the printer itself -- yet this machine
is not supported by Impressario.  It would be good if it were.

	-P. 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Complaining about 4.0.Xx
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:33:14 GMT

In <dittrich.717869369@milton> dittrich@milton.u.washington.edu (Dave Dittrich) writes:
| So how can one tell *which* version one has?  My CD-ROMs just say
| "IRIX Update 4.0.5" with a part number of "812-0033-010, 7/92" stamped
| on the CD.  I had to upgrade to fix a problem with a third party program
| that dumped 60MB (yes, MB!) core files when it ran.  Problem is fixed,
| but I hope I shouldn't have to expect any more problems.  If I do, how
| should I go about getting the "right" version?

You have 4.0.5A.  All of the others have a revision letter following
them (we hadn't really planned on revisions, or the one you have
would have said 4.0.5A...)

| Just for the record, I give SGI the benefit of the doubt when delays and
| some problems crop up with IRIX.  I do expect, however, that SGI listen
| VERY CLOSELY when complaints like these show up.  It doesn't take too
| many bad experiences to start to regret a purchase (as I have heard from
| my higher-ups on occassion when they ask about "all these upgrades we
| have to keep doing.")  I'd hate for that to happen, honestly.

We (at least, all of those in engineering involved with this fiasco)
don't like it either, but the situation didn't leave us much choice.

All else being equal, the r4k indigo/reality engine release would
have probably been 4.0.6, but it never is...
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: gfo@de-montfort.ac.uk (Gary Fozzard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Mouse lockup
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:25:21 GMT


 On a note baout complaining, I am not complaining much here but weird things
now happen when my app crashes (I am a developer!)

On 4.0.4 a bomb would leave my mouse alone on 4.0.5 it locks the mouse
and it appears I have to shutdown to get it back.   Our app uses the 
tablet.

Incidently 4.0.5 has stopped our bitpad cursor shaking all the time!

Any ideas on how to unlock the mouse via a telnet or something
it would be quicker!


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From: sysmark@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Mark Bartelt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Indigo/r4k -- better machine, crummier monitor
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:13:07 GMT
Reply-To: mark@cita.toronto.edu
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA

Someone in our group, who recently received his R4000 Indigo, comments:

 One of the things I liked about the Indigo was that they had used a
 SONY monitor, which is much crisper than the Hitachi ones on the old
 SGI PIs. I even talked to the SGI people about this at one demo they
 had, and they confirmed that the SONY was much better, the customers
 had been complaining, and that is why they switched.

 So I was somewhat surprised to receive a Hitachi monitor. I think
 it better than the one you are sitting in front of, but I still feel
 rooked.

So, what's going on, SGI?  Isn't this a bit of bait-and-switch, to ship
a system with a monitor that nearly everyone (at least, nearly everyone
who I've talked with) feels is inferior to the ones that travel around
with the demo systems?  Anyone care to comment?

Mark Bartelt                                                416/978-5619
Canadian Institute for                             mark@cita.toronto.edu
Theoretical Astrophysics                           mark@cita.utoronto.ca

"Clothes not busy being worn are busy drying."  -  Dylan, on laundry day
          [ singing "It's all right, ma (I'm only bleaching)" ]
From: scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: HELP !!! I need dump parameters for 5 GB 8mm tape drive.
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:15:43 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA


>>>>> In article <1992Sep30.140612.18966@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth) writes:

carruth> We recently got a couple of 5 GB 8mm drives.  There is no documentation
carruth> describing the density and lenght parameters for the higher density
carruth> tape drives.  The old numbers, for the 2.3 GB, were 54000 and 6000.
carruth> The SGI support line has proved worthless-- I guess nobody has tried to
carruth> use the 5GB density with the dump command--not.  I need get this 
carruth> running today and would appreciate any information.

Since the numbers are designed to "fake out" dump's intimate knowledge
of 9 track tape drives, for various DAT and 8mm capacities, just
multiply one of the numbers by the ration of the tape capacities. I
suspect that one or both numbers may be unsigned shorts, so the values
should be kept under 65535. Dave Olson could give more details.

=-=-=
--
 Scott Henry <scotth@sgi.com> / Traveller on Dragon Wings
 Networking Services,        / Help! My disclaimer is missing!
 Silicon Graphics, Inc      / GIGO *really* means: Garbage in, Gospel Out
From: karron@karron.med.nyu.edu (Dan Karron (karron@nyu.edu))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Tiff on sgi
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:15:31 GMT


I have a number of tiff images from Adobe Photoshop.

When I run fromtiff on them, and look at the ipaste files,
the are all too big, and are cropped funny.

Is there a direct tiff viewer for the sgi machines ?
Can I go directly from tiff to eps on sgi ?

Is there a new/fixed/better version of fromtiff that works properly ?

The tiff files looked good on the mac, but they are too big for the
screen on the sgi. 

Advice, pointers, comments ?

Dan.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: fnorman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Farley Norman)
Subject: inst
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:54:45 GMT

Hi ,

  We have a Personal Iris (4D/25), running IRIX 4.0.4
When I did an inst, I saw these listed

  maint1    (unknown product)
  maint1.dev_sw (unknown image)
  maint1.dev_sw.giftssrc (unknown subsystem)

  are these "unknown" products something really
old I can delete ?

---

  Also, after updating from 3.3.X to 4.0.X, I seem
to have lost whatever man subsystem the (3M)
man pages are contained in.  Previously
I could do a man atan, for example, or
man trig, or man printf and I would get
a man page.

  Now, there is no man page for any math
or other (3) man pages besides some X ones.

  Which man subsystem can I install to get
these back.  Otherwise no one would have
any documentation on most of the math
functions, at least the new documentation
provided with 4.0.1.

         Thanks alot,

         Farley
         fnorman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: daniel@vcp1.vcp.monash.edu.au
Subject: How do I make Iris use a nameserver?
Organization: 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:04:20 GMT


Could someone please point the way to defining a name server for
a PI 4D.  I have RTM and found the section on setting up the Iris
as a nameserver, but nothing on how to tell the Iris who to ask
to resolve unknown hostnames.  The nameserver I want to use is
muwaya.ucs.unimelb.edu.au 128.250.20.2 .  How do I tell my Iris?

Thanks...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: searsk@med.ge.com (Kevin D. Sears)
Subject: Re: How to find out ethernet adress of a system.
Followup-To: comp.sys.sgi,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.aix
Organization: GE Medical Systems
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 01:35:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.040734.18328@iti.gov.sg>, jameslow@iti.gov.sg (James
Low (RC)) wrote:
> 
> For the Sun, I did this as root,
> 
> ifconfig -a ether
> 
I tried "ifconfig -a ether and got the following message:

le0: flags=0<>
        ether 8:0:20:10:df:95
le1: flags=63<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING>
        ether 8:0:20:10:df:95
lo0: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>

Note that both ethernet addresses are the same(above is a Sun 690MP). The
same type of duplicate ethernet addresses appears on my 4/490(2 ethernets).

Kevin D. Sears     GE Medical Systems     National Support Center
searsk@med.ge.com
System and Network Admin(a.k.a "Sr. Maintenance Droid")
Disclaimer: I know nothing, I see nothing!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: syscrc@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Randy Carpenter)
Subject: MultiTrack Silences Indigo
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:53:01 GMT

When I start up multitrack(1) on my Entry-level graphics Indigo (with a mere
8 MB memory), the system never comes back...until I hit the RESET button.
I assume that multitrack(1) is causing the system to page/swap like crazy.
How much of the system's resources does multitrack(1) need?  The man page
doesn't say...and none of the SGI guides (I have) seem to have the answer.

Thanks.

-- 
===========================================================================
Randy Carpenter            rcarpent@gsu.edu    $ mkdir matter; cat > matter
Georgia State University   (404) 651-2648      ksh: matter: cannot create  
Wells Computer Center                          $
From: ponder@bcserv.wustl.edu (Ponder (Jay))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: VT320 setup as Power Series console terminal
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:57:09 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu
Summary: what are setting for VT320 as console terminal
Keywords: VT320 console terminal


Does anyone out there know what the correct terminal settings
are when using a Digital VT320 as a dumb terminal console
for a Power Series machine. This has nothing to do with
the Power Series end (I know it is OK...). What I need are
the VT320 settings when the terminal is put into Setup mode.
For example, which combinations of 7-bit, 8-bit, various
parities, stop bits, terminal ID's, etc. are required? Our
local guru used to do this all the time, but he's long gone
and I can't seem to find the right combination....

                      Thanks,
                      Jay Ponder
                      ponder@comet.wustl.edu
From: susan@widget.esd.sgi.com (Susan Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: anyone else getting 2 copies 4DWM running at the same time?
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:41:33 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.

In article <orman.717873332@pv0225.vincent.iastate.edu>, orman@iastate.edu (David L Orman) writes:
> Is anyone else getting 2 copies 4DWM running at the same time?
> 
> I doesnt happen consistantly and really slowsa things down when it does
> happen, any ideas on why or how to prevent it?


This multiple 4Dwm problem is triggered by the "kill" feedback of the 
window manager when a user logs out.  The work around for the problem is 
to remove the "kill" feedback.

The "kill" feedback is controlled by the resource "showFeedback". 
For 4Dwm, this resource is defined in:

	/usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/4DWm

currently as:

	*showFeedback:		behavior restart quit kill

Modify the resource to be:

	*showFeedback: 		behavior restart quit 

Also if users have their own "showFeedback" settings, they should make
sure "kill" is not among them.


    Susan
From: ib@ivan.esd.sgi.com (Ivan Bach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Math symbols in showcase - bullet
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:19:51 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct2.165943.890@odin.corp.sgi.com> I wrote:
> When an X font uses the ISO 8859-1 character encoding, X font utilities
> let you access only those characters in that font which are in the ISO 
> 8859-1 character set.
This is not true for all X font utilities.  I found out that if you enter
commands such as:

    cd /tmp
    cp /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/timR10.pcf.Z .
    uncompress timR10.pcf.Z
    showpcf -gv timR10.pcf

you will get information about all characters in that font, including the
bullet character.  

Ivan Bach, ib@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: johnu@syma.sussex.ac.uk (John E. Upham)
Subject: /debug files: What are they ?
Keywords: sgi, debug
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:39:41 GMT

What are the files in the /debug directory ? Are they of any use to man
or beast and if not can they be removed ?

 john upham
-- 
John Upham, School of Chemistry, University of Reading, Berks., RG6 2AD, UK.
Email: scsupham%susssys1.rdg.ac.uk@uk.ac (BITnet), scsupham@rdg.susssys1 (Janet)
Voice:   +44 734 875123 x7441 (day), Fax: +44 734 311610
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: horne@physics.su.OZ.AU (Geoff Horne)
Subject: LaTeX for SGI
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 05:56:09 GMT

Does anyone know where to get LaTeX for the SGI
(n. I have TeX already)

ta
Geoff

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: wmc@photon.com (Bill Cornette)
Subject: Re: Who would know: Klein Bottle
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:59:38 GMT

Dan Karron (karron@nyu.edu) (karron@karron.med.nyu.edu) wrote:
: 
: I don't have the foggyest notion where to post this, but perhaps some
: geometry type out there might know:
: 
: Where can I buy a Klein bottle ?

	Either you don't know what a Klein bottle is or you are joking.

There is no way to construct a Klein bottle physically is three-dimensions.
Drawings of Klein bottles always show surfaces passing through surfaces or
surface cut away.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Subject: Re: Tek 4396 printer woes
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 01:59:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.175058.700@riacs.edu> woo@ames.arc.nasa.gov writes:
>Does anyone have the source or a replacement for
>	/usr/lib/print/t93print?
>We find that when this printer hangs, this filter is impossible
>to kill and we have to reboot the machine.  There must be a
>better way.

I'm not sure what model the 4396 is, but you may want to ping Tek
about their upgrade program.  They are offering reasonably priced
upgrades to the PXi controller, which is a PostScript controller, and
which is quite well supported by the SGI TekPhaser product.

Cheers,

David Story                        	        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com				Mountain View, California

I've changed my name, so duis@sgi.com may bounce, please use story@sgi.com.
From: bob@caw2.4950tw.wpafb.af.mil (Bob Plested)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Ethernet Addresses
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:49:17 GMT


Howdy netlanders,
A few weeks ago sent this....

   I've seen a couple of references to the netstat -ia command to get the 
   ethernet adderess of a machine. When this machine was installed we got
   the e-net address so we could get put it on the local TCP/IP backbone.
   The address we got was 08:00:69:02:20:9d. but....

   caw2:/usr/people/bob/ netstat -ia
   Name Mtu   Network     Address            Ipkts Ierrs    Opkts Oerrs  Coll
   et0  1500  134.136     caw2.4950tw.wpa  1193086     1    52738     0   114
			   224.0.2.2          
			   224.0.0.1          
			   aa:00:04:00:62:c6
   lo0  32880 loopback    localhost           7462     0     7462     0     0
			   224.0.0.1          

Rob Riepel from Loral (and others too) responded that with 4DDN loaded the
ethernet address changes to the form aa:00:04:00:<encoded DECnet address>. 

    ethernet address = 1024*area + node, then byte switch

    e.g.  1024*49 + 610 = 50786 = c662 (hex) --> aa-00-04-00-62-c6


Rob was able to correctly determine my DECnet address (49.610) from this 
information so he gets the prize.


I thought this was interesting both in its own right and to those trying to
determine the ethernet address of their machines. If I were to remove 4DDN,
the old address (as delivered) would be displayed with netstat -ia.

Thanks to all who responded.

Bob
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Bob Plested                    bob@caw2.4950tw.wpafb.af.mil
4950th Test Wing/FFXD              134.136.241.11 
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH           (513) 257-6809 DSN 787-6809

Life is too short for stop signs.

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4950th Test Wing/FFXD              134.136.241.11 
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH           (513) 257-6809 DSN 787-6809

Life is too short for stop signs.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: paul@baroque.Stanford.EDU (Paul Ning)
Subject: Re: blendfunction wierdness on GT systems
Organization: Stanford University
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:14:46


> I'm trying to draw a disk with the center being a solid colour and the edges
> transparent. The following code works as expected on an INDIGO XS24 but gives
> strange results on a GT. On the GT the colour is properly blended in the
> horizontal wedges but not in the vertical. Both systems are at 4.0.1

> ... Martin Serrer   

Sounds like a problem I had on my 4D/80GT and 4D/220GTX.  There is a bug in
early versions of the Span Processor chip (I forget which boards these are
on) that causes alpha to be interpolated incorrectly across the vertical
spans.  Call your local rep and ask for SP-2 chips to replace your SP-1's.

- paul

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Dept. of Elec. Engr.                            Stanford, CA 94309-9738
Stanford University                    e-mail : paul@kaos.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: root@helix.nih.gov (Super-User)
Subject: Need libX11.a file
Organization: (National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:05:39 GMT


I have an Iris 4D25 and I have got a piece of software that needs
the libX11.a file.  I am running sys 3.3.3.  The software people
say this file should be on my disc as it's included with the SGI tapes.

I cannot find this file.  I tried to figure out which system tape this file
is on, but can't figure out the command to get a listing of what files
are on the tapes.  IF you haven't guessed I am a UNIX neophyte.  I posted to
this net because I have no idea if the X11.a lib is an SGI thing or not.

Please help me.  How do I extract this file (if I can find it) or who might
have it on a system (no .com sites can be accessed) where I can ftp it from.

Please e-mail or post.

Thanks

Susan
shoaf@clinpharm.niaaa.nih.gov
From: k@apple.com (Keith Cox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Indigo R4k DMA: 266 Mbytes/s or 266 Mbits/s?
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:08:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: who, me?

In article <1992Oct2.165759.7695@virtuoso.uucp>,
chris%virtuoso@uunet.uu.net (Chris Cressy) wrote:
> 
> The Digital Media Overview Technical Report from SGI states on pg. 2
> that the Indigo R3k GIO32 bus runs at a speed of 133 megabits/sec.
> 
> Elsewhere in SGI product literature, I see many references to the R4k
> and R3k buses having 266/133 "MB/s" DMA, respectively.  My SGI sales
> rep has assured my that MB is really MegaBytes and that the
> Technical Report is in error.
> 
> Could anyone at SGI confirm the Indigo DMA rate for me?
> -- 

133MBytes/sec is correct for the indigo R3k GIO32.  The 266/133MBytes/sec
for the R4k has the same bus running at 33MHz, the difference is
32bit vs. 64bit width.  The Digital Media Tech Report is wrong.

keith


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Keith Cox        Now be nice, because,
k@apple.com          no matter where you go,
                         there you are.
                             - B. Banzai