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From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Bubble Boy and contradictions
Date: 10 Nov 1992 13:39:30 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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I get the impression that the writers and producers of OFS (Our Favorite
Show - if alt.tv.simpsons can use OFF, then I'm going to use OFS and see
how far this propagates, kind of like the rumor game :-)--they are deliberately
setting up contradictions in in Mike Monroe's personal life. The thing
that really hit me was the shot of him handling all the papers for Maurice's
will in a special protective bubble-thingy, but there are shelves upon
shelves of books (all made with paper) behind him! I wonder if they're
setting this up to be ambiguous, so that we don't know whether to believe
him or not. Other examples: the infamous spacesuit observation (done to
death in this group), Mike's claim that he can't have a tv but we notice
that he can have a nasty plastic-containing-and-outgassing microwave oven,
the plastic container that Maggie brought him carrots in last night, etc.

(FAQ to be reposted soon, probably this weekend--lots o' new stuff!)

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From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu)
Subject: FAQ
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:03:41 GMT

	And, the newest entry for Things Which Must Be Included In The FAQ
iiiiissssss...(drum roll s'il vous plait): "WHERE CAN I FIND THE EPISODE
TITLES?" Will whoever keeps the FAQ please add this in? I think a lot of
people would appreciate it. (Myself, I couldn't care less what the episodes
are called.)

Rosaleen Dhu |st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
VOTE CTHULHU '92!!! Why not the worst?
"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."--The Bard
"Don't reach out and touch the world, you don't know where it's been."
From: jmf@endor.uucp (Joan Frankel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: NEX makes the grade
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:02:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <1992Nov3.071629.19154@netcom.com> bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) writes:
>
>Just turned on the late night tv (as opposed to the daytime tv) and
>noticed that NEX has made the grade and has already gone into
>syndication.  Only five years and it's in re-runs already!

Holy shit, where????
as in what network.
& why wasn't this advertised where I could see it.
& what episode are they up to.
(I've seen all but the Soapy Sanderson episode,
but I'm trying to tape them for a wayward relative, &
I've only had a VCR these past 2 years).

Last week, I remember hearing "stay tune for a special showing of NEXP"
but I heard it on my stupid tape, too late to stay tune
(I probably watched as the special thing played "live")
...it is it CBS latenight?? is it Mondays only?
From: 2fuisoda@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: RE:Bubble Man Identity
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:26:19 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In his post of 11-11-92, Tuervaek@col.hp.com writes:

> ". . . [I] find it incredulous that so many here look for such deep meaning,
etc... in all of the episodes . . . I often stay away from this group as I feel
it brings me down to[o] much by reading all the analytical comments . . ."

It's unfortunate, though fine, that you feel this way.  Part of the magic of
NEX is looking into the writing and finding the links between the sub-plots,
character motivations, plot lines, anything.  To overlook these is to miss much
of what goes on in this series.


--------


Gail                                        
2fuisoda@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

The University of Kansas


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From: bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas)
Subject: Re: November 9th's show
Organization: Software Eng. Inst.;Carnegie-Mellon U.; Pittsburgh, PA 15213   _USA_
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:56:33 GMT


In article <i5B2TB1w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>, m4safran@student.business.uwo.ca (Melissa Safran) writes:

|> Marilyn was finally something other than stupid sweet Marilyn.  

Marilyn is one of the show's most insightful and
well-imagined characters.  To me, her understated attitude
along with her (at times) near-omniscience are two of her
most appealing and fascinating qualities.

I would never think of her as unintelligent.




Barbara Zayas				Software Engineering Institute
Information Management			Carnegie Mellon University
bjz@sei.cmu.edu				(412) 268-6378
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From: ishizaki@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Audrey Ishizaki)
Subject: Re: Bubble Boy and contradictions
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:59:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA

re: ambiguity - is Mike to be believed?

you know, I was even unsure if Maggie *ever* wears "Opium" perfume.  She
never confirms his guess.  I thought she was keeping his gaffe to herself,
so as not to provide Fleischman with any more reasons to believe that
Mike's allergies are self-induced.

audrey ishizaki
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Quotes from NX in ASCII (Perl-Less!)
From: rich@csusb
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:37:16 PST
Organization: California State University, San Bernardino
Nntp-Posting-User: rich

I blew it. I admit it. My mailer barfed, and I lost the e-mail addresses
of at least 2 people who asked me for the ascii version of the NX
quotes file. So, if you *haven't* gotten a quotes.txt back from
me, or would like to have one, please send, or re-send, a 
message to "RICH@MCVAX.CSUSB.EDU". Again, I'm sorry!

-Rich
From: waynebro@romeo.caltech.edu (Broughton, Wayne Jeremy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: "On Your Own", 11/9 episode -- No Spoilers!!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 20:53 PDT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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Hi all.

Thanks to those people who posted info about the Saturday night
satellite feeds and the convenient fact that our local Caltech
undergrads have a satellite dish/receiver, I have been able to
catch the Saturday night "sneak preview" on some weekends.  I
saw this week's episode last night, and it was great!!
If you were thinking of missing it - don't!  If you were giving 
up on the show this season - hang in there!  I think this was
the best episode of the season so far.  Lots of subplots, some
VERY funny scenes, and some surprises and interesting developments.

Oops, hope I haven't gotten anybody's expectations up too high.  :-)

Enjoy!

**********************************************************************

Wayne J. Broughton                 Take the road less travelled by.  
waynebro@juliet.caltech.edu    
Department of Mathematics,
Caltech, Pasadena, CA  91125

Caltech has no idea what my opinions are;  
they think I'm working right now...
From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: The geek (was Re: Out-gassing
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:30:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Stay Awake Software


I don't care for the Bubble Boy.  It appears to me to be a cheap ploy to
attract the tree-huggers while supplying a character more anal than Joel.
It has also served to lower my opinion of the Maggie character.  Her
propensity for school-girl crushes and flightiness (no pun intended) is
grossly exagerated by this new character.  When I first saw the show I
thought Joel was incredibly shallow (bested only by Shelley who has
made 'shallow' into an art-form).  Now I find that Joel has developed
into a fairly deep person while Maggie has regressed into a very
shallow person.  Don't get me wrong, a shallow character is fine as a
member of the cast.  Shelley and Chris fulfill that role well, but then
I don't expect any better from them.  But Maggie had shown some depth
and rational thought in previous seasons and now she has regressed.

I tend to agree with Joel's assessment of the BB's "afliction" - the
need for attention.  Sheesh, I deal enough with anal retentive
people during the week.  I don't want to watch one on TV.  In my
opinion, the geek adds nothing to the show while detracting from the
depth of the regular cast.

IMO, Holling is the "deepest" character on the show.


Gordon
-- 
The opinions expressed are my own, and not the beliefs or opinions
of whatever company you think I work for.  So there, thhhbbbt!
Message to Kodak:  Freedom for Dan Bredy.
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From: avdh@sunnyboy.dazixco.ingr.com (Alain van der Heide)
Subject: NX ref. on Simpsons
Organization: Dazix - An Intergraph Company
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:48:52 GMT


Did anyone catch the NX reference on the Simpsons last night (11/12)?
Homer's neighbor was complaining about the fact that Homer never closed
his garbage cans, and wild animals were beginning to feed off of the
Simson's garbage.  Homer peeks around the corner, and there's a moose
pawing through his garbage.  The moose then charges Homer, all to the
accompaniment of NX-like music.

That Groening guy is occaisionally clever.

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From: m4safran@student.business.uwo.ca (Melissa Safran)
Subject: analysis of NX
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:39:46 GMT

Several people have complained about the extent to which this board 
analyzes each program.  I just wanted to get in my two cents' worth.

I think it's fun to over analyse the show.  I am amazed every week at all 
of the anomalies that people can find in each program (does everyone but 
me have a VCR?).  I have a hard enough time getting ready for bed in 
between commercials, and answering the phone during NX so that I don't 
usually catch these things (but I did notice the champagne problem this 
week).

If you don't want to analyse the show, don't read those postings.  For 
those of us who like to analyse what we watch, we'll keep it up.

BTW, I also watch 60 Minutes and I tend to analyse it too.  In fact, the 
only shows that I watch are 60 Minutes and NX and I like to analyse both 
of them.  As I get off topic....

One of these days I'll be a pro like the rest of you and I'll catch 
something good.  For now, I like to read what you all catch.

Ciao!

m4safran@student.business.uwo.ca (Melissa Safran)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
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From: cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen)
Subject: Re: PERL for the Quotes List?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:13:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.092636.1@csusb> rich@csusb writes:
>Having just downloaded the NX Quotes list, I noticed that they are
>in the Unix PERL format. Does anyone have PERL for the PC? I'd love
>a good Maggie-Quote to start the day off with!

	I'm working on a PC Version of the quote list.  Hopefully, I can
have a simplistic version of it done before next week.  Then, it's just a
matter of asking the kind, gorgeous moderator of the FTP site to upload it
there.  :)  (Hi, Erin!)

						Cliff Chen
						cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Re: Lyrics to "I'm the Baby"?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 05:55:32 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
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In article <1992Nov3.221045.18528@netcom.com> sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith) writes:
>I know I'm going to regret asking this, since it will start an endless
>stream of postings and corrections to postings and corrections to
>the corrections, but...
>
>Anybody get the lyrics to "I'm the Baby, Gotta Love Me"? I've been
>walking around humming it since Friday, but those 6 words are the only
>lyrics I know, and it's really irritating.

According to the poster that came with the "Big Songs" CD the lyrics are:

I'm the baby, gotta love me
Big purple eyes, I'm very cuddly
'Specially when I hit my daddy with a frying pan

I'm the baby, gotta love me
First, I whack you, then you shove me
Flyin' 'cross the room
I like it!
Again!

Momma says it's too much sugar
Daddy is all perplexed
A-B-C-D-E-F, gee
You never know what I'm gonna do next

Wanna see me make a rocket?
Watch me put her tail in a socket
She lights up like a Christmas Tree

(Don't try this at home!)

Wheeee!
I'm the baby and you gotta love me

I'm the baby, gotta love me
Big purple eyes, I'm very cuddly
Don't you think that 
Every home should have one of me?
Or three

I said, jump on the bed
Hit my daddy on the head
Run around the house
When they tell me not to
I take every chance
To make a poop in my pants
But, I'm the baby
And you got to

I'm the baby, gotta love me
Don't you wish there were more of me?
Daddy, mother, brother, sister
I'm the greatest baby in pre-histor...
I'm the baby and you gotta love
I'm the baby and you gotta love
I'm the baby and you gotta love me

Gotta love me!


Music by Ray Colcord
Lyrics by Stuart Pankin
(typos by George Lindholm)
Copyright 1992 Walt Disney Music Company

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From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Another "Dinosaurs/Simpsons" connection
Date: 7 Nov 1992 22:09:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
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During last nights televised episode (11/6/92) I kept getting the
strange feeling that I had heard the voice of "Zabar, the guy in the
Woods" somewhere before. Imagine my surprise when the credits at the
end of the show cam up and lo and behold it was none other than
Dan Castelleneta (sp?), the voice of both Homer & Grandpa Simpson.
I have to admit though that he sounded much more like Grandpa in
"Dinosaurs" than Homer.

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From: jneff@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joseph D. Neff)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Yet another dino reference...
Summary: Dinosaurs in STTNG?
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:08:55 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Don't know if this was brought up in trek newsgroups, but...

Did anyone expect Keiko & Miles' kid to shout "Not the Mama! Not
the Mama!!"  when young Keiko entered the room?

-Joe
--
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And what are you doing with your good hip?  Reading my .sig!
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu)
Subject: Re: Another "Dinosaurs/Simpsons" connection
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 03:52:13 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1dherhINNgbi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:
>
>During last nights televised episode (11/6/92) I kept getting the
>strange feeling that I had heard the voice of "Zabar, the guy in the
>Woods" somewhere before. Imagine my surprise when the credits at the
>end of the show cam up and lo and behold it was none other than
>Dan Castelleneta (sp?), the voice of both Homer & Grandpa Simpson.
>I have to admit though that he sounded much more like Grandpa in
>"Dinosaurs" than Homer.

If you noticed that, you may have noticed that the salesman/doctor
voice was done by Charles Kimbrough -- Jim Dial from Murphy Brown.

Dave Lu
From: slutsky@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.dinosaurs
Subject: Barney and Friends
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:58:33 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Does anyone know if Barney and Friends will do a live show.  My 4 1/2
year old son just loves it.  He can watch 6 or more episodes on tape
every day.  There is so much Barney merchandise on the market, so I'm
wondering if there is a live tour.  Thank you very much.

Bruce Slutsky
slutsky@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: How to and concentration
From: emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp)
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:40:13 -0600

In article <7p+q2f5#@aix01.rz.fht-mannheim.de>  writes:
>Diane L. Calleson (dc3i@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
>...
>
>: Someone, I forget who, spoke about the be-here-now ideology, the acceptance
>: of things as they are etc.  THis is a close approximation to what TM is in
>: the way it is practised.
>
>The "pop ideology" of "be here and now" is mostly a popularization.
>Some people understand this either as acting carelessly or as trying
>to "concentrate on the moment". Both completely misses the point.
>The former is quite likely to create problems, and the latter is simply a
>misunderstanding of the situation.

>There is only the "current" experience. No way to escape it or find some other.
>When this is "seen" directly, you'll know of the "eternal now" of the mystics
>(and it will be clear that the "I" is a fiction of thinking, of time).

Concentrating on the moment is seeing the "current" experience.
Concentrating on the moment is a way to reach the "eternal now."

Are you sure "that the 'I' is a fiction of thinking, of time?"
From: geoff@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Geoffrey Coulson)
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Subject: Re: a.m.t FAQ, last revised 10/31/92
Keywords: FAQ, meditation
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:42:36 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <Bx8I9r.10I@access.digex.com> mikenews@access.digex.com (Mike Doughney) writes:
>In article <1992Nov01.011031.15099@microsoft.com> chriswe@microsoft.com (Chris Westin) writes:
>>
>>Jyotish
>>-------
>>Vedic Astrology.  Vedic astrology predicts possible future events, along with
>>strategies for attracting or avoiding them.  Pandits (Vedic Astrologers) were
>>specially selected from families in India where Jyotish was practiced over
>>many generations.  Those were personally interviewed by Maharishi and trained
>>in the special aspects of Maharishi Jyotish which takes into account the
>>level of consciousness.  Traditional indian Jyotish is considered a diluted

First, forgive me if I ask things that have already been answered - I missed
the posting of the faq.

I've been hearing about this Jyotish stuff for a while now. I'm not
not 'a priori' against astrology but find it hard to believe that it
could be specific and individual enough to be of any real use. For
example, does it just talk at the level of "this is a good day for
cultivating relationships" or is it something more definite? 

The thing I'd particularly like to ask is how, exactly, does is the 'level
of consciousness' taken into account? I know from my own experience that
TM can result in an experience of greater clarity and, sometimes, 'cosmic'
sorts of experience, but I'm trying to think how this can help an
astrologer apart from sharpening his/her intuition in some unquantifiable
way. Is this all that is meant by taking into account the level of
consciousness or is something else meant that I am unaware of?

Thanks!


Geoff Coulson, 
Lecturer,
Distributed Multimedia Research Group,
Lancaster University

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Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
From: mw%ki.fht-mannheim.de (Marc Wachowitz)
Subject: Re: How do I meditate?
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 18:09:52 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik Mannheim
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Lorenzo Farris (farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu) replied to my article:
: :You don't need to make "having no goal" a goal, that's just what many people
: :do (have you ever _tried_ to be spontaneous?)
: :
: :: To give a more concrete recommendation on getting into meditation:
: :You may not believe it, but what I "proposed" is very practical.
: 
: I certainly disagree here. Correct me if I am wrong, but you seem to
: be of the line of thinking wherein we are all already enlightened.
No, I'm not thinking that we are already enlightened.
The "problem" (if we want to call it so) is that we are in a more or less
subtle way trying to "look away" from the actual situation - and trying not
to "look away" is nothing but another attempt to "look away".

: The original post asked how to get into meditation. Not how to just
: be, etc., etc.
The problem is that trying to get there is actually a hindrance -
"trying to be spontaneous" was only mentioned to show a case where effort
is quite useless except as a "trick" to see a useless effort (in this respect)
and give it up completely - not just "on the surface".

: I feel your recommendations, for the beginner, are so vague and
: obvious at the same time as to be useless.
Could it be that the obvious is almost always overlooked?

: I think the question that comes up here is: why do you do whatever it
: is you do? Why does the original poster ask how to meditate? Why does
: he want to meditate?
Good questions - though motivations will almost surely change with practice,
except perhaps if you enforce them and use meditation as conditioning.

: I was drawn to meditation because it just felt right. I continue to do
: it because, in conjunction with the associated practices, it makes my
: life happier and cleaner and clearer and tighter everyday. And with
: the imposition of certain 'restrictions' on my behavior and my
: thoughts, I feel far freer than when I just did "whatever".
As it says, the question is not so much what you do but how you do it.
But if it feels right for you this way, great!

: I get tired of standing, and I fall asleep laying down. That about
: covers the range of positions available. Although I can't say I ever
: tried meditating in gravity boots. ;)
What about walking through nature?
Meditation doesn't require to hold the body still.
(in the city there would probably too much distraction)

: Anything you take too seriously becomes this. Even 'spontaneity'.
Is it spontaneous when taken seriously? :-)

: "Once upon a time men were possessed
: by devils. Now they are not less
: obsessed by ideas" -CG Jung
Indeed.

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