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From: al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Amit Likhyani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cubs D & 1993 NL Final Standings
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:13:24 GMT
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.baseball: 22-Nov-92 Re: Cubs D & 1993 NL
Final .. by David DeMers@cs.ucsd.edu 
> Montreal
> Philadelphia
> Pittsburgh
> St Louis
> New York
> Miami (can't bring myself to call them "Florida", sorry)
> Chicago

Not bad.  I would say

Montreal
Pitt
Phi
Stl
Mets
Cubs
Fish

Montreal should win this thing without much of a problem.  The Pirates
will lose 10 due to losing Bonds which puts them at 86 another 5 for
Drabek puts them at 81.  Add a couple for Young, Cooke, Wakefield for
the full year, and the subtraction of King subtract a couple when
VanSlyke does not flirt with a .900 OPS and you have about 85 to 87
wins.  Philly could finish ahead of the Pirates, but I just don't see
it.  It won't matter.  Montreal will win 95 and the division by about 8
games.  Out of the remaining teams, the Pirates will be in the best
position to get better as they seem to have the best young talent
outside of the Expos with Young, Garcia, Cooke, Backlund, Wagner,
Neagle, Cummings, Wakefield(27 - but his age is irrelevant - his years
till Free agency are and he is 6 years away).  Montreal should win a
couple of division titles with their nucleus.  I kind of like the Cubs. 
They deserve better than finishing behind an expansion team.  St.  Louis
really seems to be treading water.
The Mets just don't have that much talent.  I expect Bonilla to have a
better year around.825 to .850.  Maybe Howard Johnson will rebound(too
late now :-)), but there just is not that much there.  I am not really
sure what to expect from Philly.  I think they are going to sign some
guys, but end up an expensive second or third place team.  You have to
expect their pitching to get better, but they refuse to build their farm
system and build a team that can contend for a few years.  Daulton,
Kruk, Dykstra, Duncan are all over 30.
Their only good young player is Hollins.  They may get second, but they
are not going to get a really *GOOD* team until they start getting some
young talent.  They have had the worst farm system for the past god
knows how many years.

In the west,I still like Cincinnati.  They need 2 more starting
pitchers.  I hope someone knocks off Atlanta.  The Braves are just
sitting pretty.  They will get another chance to fly the Canadian flag
in the NLCS.
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Eck Wins MVP in Horrible Voting
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:32:09 GMT

In article <23NOV199213035032@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller) writes:
>	Mike Devereaux played nearly every day for the Orioles.  Along with
>Brady and Mussina (also MVP candidates), he was the most consistent player
>on the team, and it's hard to imagine the Orioles playing as well as they
>did without him in either the #2 or #3 spot where he played all season.  True,
>he was helped tremendously by having Brady right in front of him, but that 
>doesn't make him look any worse.

Jose Lind has played almost every day for the Pirates for the last few
years, and he's been a consistent performer offensively.  Yet, nobody in
his right mind would promote him as an MVP candidate.

There is some value in playing everyday, but if another player has
outperformed the everyday player in fewer games, I find it hard to buy an
argument that the everyday player is better.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay and the Giants
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:17:11 GMT
Organization: Boo! 

In <lgggdqINN555@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> str@maredsous.Eng.Sun.COM (Todd Rader) writes:

>In article 74251@apple.apple.COM, chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin) writes:
>%cosper@seq.uncwil.edu (Kit Cosper) writes:
>%
>%>	Even with all the problems I'd rather go to Candlestick
>%>	to watch a game than a domed stadium.
>%
>%Truly spoken like someone who's never been to Candlestick. it's VERY easy to
>%make prounouncements like this when you don't know what you're talking
>%about.

>I've been wading through Chuq's umpteen articles, all saying very similar things,
>and I just have to put in my $.02 on this.  Candlestick, the first and most
>recent stadium I've been to, is simply not as bad as he is painting it.  It's
>worst cold day beats many in Fenway early and late in the season

I disagree.  I've only been to Candlestick once, but it was far worse than
any of the many April Fenway games that I have been to. I had to leave the
Candlestick game after 5 innings despite bringing virtually every jacket/
sweater I owned along to the game.  I have never left any other game anywhere
near that early.

I have no doubt that temperature wise Candlestick may not get quite as cold
as Fenway.  But wind-chill factor wise, which is what matters when you're
sitting there, is worse in Candlestick.  And it can be worse at any point
during the season, while Fenway cold nights are reserved for early and late
season games.  

>Chuq complained bitterly in the ba.sports newsgroup when the S.J. stadium
>was defeated, and I can't help but conclude he's still bitter.  South Bay
>people in general hate going up to Candlestick because traffic is such a pain
>and it's about a 1-hour drive under good conditions.  I think all this Candlestick-
>bashing on Chuq's part needs to be taken with a grain of salt -- yes, it's a
>bad stadium, but he overstates the problem.

I think Chuq is a bit more rational than that.  As is Bob Lurie, who was
clearly convinced that the difference between Candlestick and a new
stadium would mean a huge difference in dollars.  I know a ton of baseball
fans in the bay area with no real team affiliation, and they all choose to
go often to the OAC and never to Candlestick (Admittedly, part of the
problem with Candlestick is lack of cheap mass transportation to the park).

Greg
From: ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu (Gary Fritters Of Delight Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cy of Relief (Eck)
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:30:13 GMT
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Organization: Betrayed By Pinheads, Inc.

Greg "Thanks For Being On the Show" Franklin writes:

>I think that the voters were trying to honor Eck somehow for his past 5
>years of stellar performance.  And with no dominating starter this year,
>this honor came easily.

Probably an accurate assessment, to some extent.  Eckersley had a fine year
by anyone's standards, but I don't think anyone REALLY thinks he had a
better year than say, Roger Clemens.  Of course, the awards voting that
really counts happened here a few weeks ago, so that's ok.

Also: Please note my address change.  Please send all mail to my new
address, as mail sent to the old one will NOT be forwarded.

New address:

glhuckabay@ucdavis.edu   or
ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu.

Thanks....



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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Subject: Re: The first pick -- David Nied
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 07:32:54 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: STUPID

In article <jhopkins.177.722029634@cbacc.cba.uga.edu> jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (John Hopkins) writes:
>
>It is 2:30 pm in the Eastern time zone, and the Colorado Rockies just
>took David Nied in the expansion draft from the Atlanta Braves.  What
>this means is this:  JOHN SCHUERHOLTZ IS TOO FUCKING STUPID TO
>LIVE!!!!
>
No, it means John Schuerholz is an astute gentleman who realizes that Ted 
Turner would have had his ass if Deion Sanders had not been protected.  Now,
you may redirect your diatribe at Turner, and I wouldn't mind a bit.  
Schuerholz wanted to protect Nied.


-- 
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From: tim@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu (Tim Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Expansion Draft -- Final Results
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:46:21 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University, Washington DC

In article <1992Nov18.023522.143768@zeus.calpoly.edu> jplee@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jason Lee) writes:
>                          MLB Expansion Draft
>                           Complete Results
>                                ROUND 2
>    Colorado Rockies                         Florida Marlins (1st pick) 
> ...
>10) Kevin Ritz, RHP, Detroit             10) Andres Berumen, RHP, Kansas City

Ha, ha, ha, ha!  Go, Tigers!  Go Tigers!

This is the best thing to happen in Detroit in eight years!

YES!

 Timothy Law Snyder
 Department of Computer Science
 Reiss 225
 Georgetown University
 Washington, DC 20057

tim@normal.georgetown.edu
(202) 687-6208
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Subject: Down with Marge!!!
From: jimbo@csusb
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:26:35 PST
Organization: California State University, San Bernardino
Nntp-Posting-User: jimbo

I just heard the bad news (for this Red fan, anyway) of
Norm Charlton being traded to the Mariners for Kevin Mitchell.
I knew Mitchell would be the first player that Lou Pinella
would do away with (bad attitude, slow bat, no foot speed), 
but I hoped Pinella would not do in his former club!  Serves
the Reds right if they miss Charlton big time in 92 while
Mitchell hits below the Mendoza Line.  I'm tired of the Reds
front office (i.e. Marge Schott) screwing up a team with
good balance and nit picking with the money while spending
it on a dumb mutt!  Marge has cut back on player development,
scouting, managment and is making the Cincy fans mighty angry. 

Down with Marge!!! Down with SchottzieII (sp., but I don't care)


Tony Ardelean
Cal State University, San Bernardino
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From: hildebra@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Subject: What was Lee Thomas thinking...
Reply-To: hildebra@math.wisc.edu
Organization: 6.7 Year Support Society
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:14:01 GMT

	The Phillies protected Juan Bell, Kim Batiste, and Ricky Jordan, ie
a bunch of might have been who didn't pan out (Batiste is the only one that's
excusable, he's young enough that he might still be semi-decent some day)
and then leave their pitching staff wide open. For once the Phillies seemed
to be making progress on getting a decent starting rotation, mainly because
they had a whole lot of options for filling in the lower part of the
rotation. They've already lost Ashby and will probably lose more. I wouldn't
be surprised to see Ashby turn out to be a pretty good pitcher for the
Rockies. (Wasn't he doing pretty well before he got injured this past year?)

	Granted, what they may have done is protect some 28-30 year old
players who never quite made it over some 23-25 year old pitchers who never
will quite make it, but it still doesn't seem like a good plan to me.

	Further question. What is Dale Murphy's status? I saw in the papers
that he batted lead-off in the Phillies' last game and was then promptly
replaced. Does anyone know why they did this? And is Murphy still insisting
he's going to come back and play next year?

-Jeff
-- 
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From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re:  Comments on Round 1 of Exp. draft
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:44:21 PST

In article <1992Nov17.211246.1@csusb>, jimbo@csusb writes:
>>jplee@zeus.calpoly.edu(Jason Lee) writes on 11-17:
> 
>>Why on earth didn't the Angels protect Bryan Harvey?
> 
> According to recent reports in the LA Times, the Angels
> left Harvery unprotected because a)  his salary
>                                  b)  his arm injury suffered
>                                      last year
>                                  c)  maybe he wouldn't be taken
> 
> The good news for Angel fans is that more money should be
> available to keep Jim Abbott around.

  Or.....

  { in whisper mode - so not to jinx any possible deals }

   Maybe the angels are going to bid for barry.
   Barry has said that so. cal is a preference.
   From a $$$ point of view : 1) no more harvey = $4M
                              2) no more felix  = $1M
                              3) blyleven is a free agent (don't know 
                                 what his '92 salary was
   Does this add up to $7M ?
   If not, can we sell gaetti to japan ?

  { whisper mode off }

   On another note, Will the Marlins keep Harvey ? 
   I can't believe that they would. Except that Marcel Lacheman is the 
   pitching coach.   I think that losing Lacheman may be the Angels 
   biggest loss.

   Mark Pede
From: genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The Big Cat moves West
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:29:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering

Thus spake lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith):
>The news from the Clari baseball group is that The Rockies have picked
>up net.favorite, Andres Galarraga, who will now be refered to as The
>Big Mountain Cat. 

Or "Le Grand Puma", back in his old Montreal stomping grounds.


-- 
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 dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | Out of the manager's throat, the sound fundamentals,
 Prof. of Story Problems | Out of the six-month season..."            
 Member ORSA, TIMS, SABR | 	Walt "Lefty" Whitman
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 5 truly unbreakable records
Date: 17 Nov 1992 03:12:10 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In some article I wrote
>>The first was broken this year. 
>>The career record is now held by John Dagenhard who pitched
>>11 innings with a lifetime ERA of 0.00.
>>
>>tick, tick, tick...
( regarding the breaking of Jeremy Hernandez' career record of 14+1/3
IP with a 0.00 ERA)
In article <92318.182219RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>  
writes:
> sorry, unless you made a typo, eleven innings is not more than fourteen
> and one-third innings (well, actually that's true regardless of whether
> you made a typo or not.  what i mean is, unless you made a typo, the
> record was not broken).
Yup. I was waiting for someone to notice that. Hernandez set his career  
record in 1991, putting Dagenhard (J.D. pitched in 1943) into second place.
Unfortunately (sort of) Hernandez pitched in the majors again last year.
This time he allowed some earned runs, so his career ERA is 3.00.
Thus his record was broken.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
 
From: krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:09:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Tampa Bay and the Giants
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball

Well I have to agree with Steven and Ken on this one.  I too am a season
ticket holder.  And yes, there are plenty of stadiums much nicer than
the Stick.  However, I would prefer an open air stadium to a dome any
day (or night) of the week - and yes I have been to VERY cold nights
at Candlestick.  

Having given my opinion on open air vs dome, this is the San Francisco
bay area, and the weather does get cold when the sun goes down and the
fog rolls in.  A new stadium in a different location may help, but it 
will not change the weather, and there will probably still be fog and
there will still be a chill in the air and the wind will still blow 
cold.  I am not defending Candlestick - it's a lousy stadium - but unless
they go to a dome (which I would HATE) the weather is the weather, and 
people who think a new stadium is going to make everything perfect are
wrong.

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From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: The Big Cat moves West
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:13:46 GMT

Lance Squiddie Smith (lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu) wrote:
: The news from the Clari baseball group is that The Rockies have picked
: up net.favorite, Andres Galarraga, who will now be refered to as The
: Big Mountain Cat. 
: 
: Hoooboy! Can Jim Acker be far behind?

Depends on whether the Rockies blow their wad signing Alfredo Griffin first.

Baylor says he's watched The Cat, and the cat knows how to hit.  I'm still
willing to believe Baylor will be the Dave Duncan of hitting (ie, spotting
talent in apparently washed up players and developing it), but I'm not holding
my breath.

--
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From: RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: draft contest.
Date: 18 Nov 92 05:04:28 GMT

i'd like to change my vote to david nied.

bob vesterman.
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From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: First in the expansion draft: contest
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:30:04 GMT

In article <1425@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:
 
>v_siede@pavo.concordia.ca (KALDIS,BILL) writes:
>: In article <1992Nov9.124225.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, jpalmer@uwovax.uwo.ca (The Econoclast) writes...
>: >
>: >     A simple contest (no prizes this time):
>: >
>: >Who will be the first player taken in the expansion draft?
>: >
>:
>: David Nied, pitcher - Atlanta Braves
>:
>:
>: Bill Kaldis
>
>
>Bite your tongue!
>If Nied goes- and the Atlanta Fishwrapper is now guessing that he
>will, contrary to earlier rumors that it would be Mercker- then a
>lot of people are going to want John Schuerholz' head on a plate.
>Bill Anderson
>"Sure, John, sure- but what have you done for me *lately*?"
>
The Denver radio stations are reporting that the Rockies will
definitely take Nied first.  They claim this comes from sources inside
the Rockies organization.  We'll all know tomorrow, won't we?
 
Jim McMaster
From: G.R.Price@cm.cf.ac.uk (G R Price)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Red Sox and the draft
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:44:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, WALES, UK.
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway


Could any Red Sox fans out there please inform me who the Red Sox
protected in the draft, if this is known, and give me opinions on the loss of 
Wedge and Reed.

Thanks in advance

Gwyn.
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From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Subject: Re: creative managing
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:51:32 GMT

In article <BxtI46.9u5@deshaw.com> baseggio@deshaw.com (Franco Baseggio) writes:
>What about a lefty-righty reliever combo where they can both play
>left-field?  Has a pitcher ever been moved to a non-pitching position
>and then back again?  
>
>Franco
>
>
>
Whitey Herzog did this once or twice with the Cardinals, putting Worrell (sp?)
in right/left field depending on the batter, and bringing in Ken Dayley (sp?)
to pitch to lefties, and then putting Worrell back in at pitcher.

-- 
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"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
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From: camden@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Rany Jazayerli)
Subject: Wil Cordero (Re: Phils vs Expos)
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.154741.12872@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, yaska@eecg.toronto.edu (Yaska Sankar) writes...
>In article <Ef459Uy00VpO92UkQ_@andrew.cmu.edu> al1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Amit Likhyani) writes:

[Some stuff deleted - a comparison of the Phils and Expos at each position]

> 
>>Short - Even - neither team is strong
> 
>Tell that to Expo prize prospect Wilfredo Cordero who posted a
>302/353/397 in 136 PA last fall. The only reason he didn't play more in '92 
>was because of a knee(?) injury, and because Spike Owen had a career year.
>Cordero will start in 93. And he beats Phillie Kim Batiste any day. 
> 

	I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion.  In fact, though I may be
sticking my neck out on this one, I would go so far as to venture that of all
the major leaguers who made their debut in 1992, Cordero has the greatest chance
of putting together a superstar career (maybe Willie Greene, though I'm
skeptical).  His .302 average in 136 PA is no fluke; he hit .314 in AAA
Indianapolis (not a hitter's park, as far as I know) this year, with a .384 OBP
and a .466 SLG.  He had never hit higher than .277 in the minors this year, but
that may be because he was so damn young - he was 16 when he started, reached
AA at 17, AAA at 19, and just turned 21 a month ago.  He seems to have decent
plate discipline - strikes out quite a bit, but walks a fair amount (his
strikeout-to-walk ratio deteriorated a little when he reached the majors), but
he *was* only 20, so I'm not too worried that he may turn into Sammy Sosa or
something.  He has very good power (over the last two years in AAA, he's hit 17
homers in 564 AB), especially for a shortstop, and reports on his defense are
above average-to-excellent.  The Expos have a real keeper in Cordero, and he's
probably the front-runner for Rookie of the Year in '93 (I believe he still has
rookie eligibility).  Add him to a team that already has DeShields, Walker,
Grissom, Alou, a great bullpen (Wetteland & Rojas), and a decent pitching staff,
and I think it will be difficult for any team to dislodge the Expos from first.

	Rany Jazayerli			camden@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
	---------------------------------------------------------
	Kevin Appier: 1993 Cy Young	George Brett: Cooperstown 1998


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From: hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks)
Subject: Re: The Cat goes to Denver?
Organization: NSSL
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:06:21 GMT

In article <n=kqd3c@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose) writes:
>Just heard on the overnight news channel that Andres Galarraga had signed
>a deal with Colorado.  I now apologize for any smirking I might have cast in
>Russ Smith and Harold Brooks' general direction.

I just wanted to thank all my friends on the net who stayed by my side during
the exceptionally difficult personal time for me when Andres was unemployed.
The expressions of concern over the void in my life were touching.  But now,
there's something to look forward to--The Andres Galarraga Update, Volume II!
Coming to an internet node near you 15 April 1993!  Be there!

Harold
-- 
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"I used to work for a brewery, too, but I didn't drink on the job."
-P. Bavasi on Dal Maxvill's view that Florida can win the NL East in '93
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