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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:23:56 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Hawks Weekend Review


Stan Macasieb writes:

>Just when you thought the going was good, it will come to an abrupt end. I
>will be changing jobs at the end of the week. My newsnet access and email
>access are, therefore, in jeopardy. Once I square things away, I may
>return again to post some goodies, Blackhawks or hockey in general. Until
>then, this will be my last Blackhawks update. Like I said, I'll be around
>until the end of the week, so I won't be disappearing that quickly.

Hmmm...new job, eh?  This sudden departure doesn't have anything to do
with having the expansion team blues, does it?  Seriously, as a pretty
avid Blackhawks fan I've enjoyed your posts, Stan (not only the hockey
updates but also your sense of humor).  Thanks and good luck to you.
Hope you find your way back to the net!!  Perhaps we'll see you again
in the finals.

Anna




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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Notes from Stan Fischler, 10/12
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:23:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.150544.29285@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>
>* Glen Sather is about to walk out on the Oilers because he has long
>soured on owner Peter Pocklington ...  Sather keeps rigging the team
>with lower-salaried players out of his magic hat, and Pocklington
>keeps hounding him to lower the team's salary load even further ...
>now faced with unloading Kevin Lowe because he's making the same
>money as Steve Konroyd (of the Blackhawks?), Sather is fed up ...
>

I was under the impression that Sather had just signed a new long
term contract with the Oilers last summer after having been wooed by
McNall...I seem to remember having read this in a column by Al Strachan
of the Globe and Mail who is based in Calgary, and one of the better
hockey reporters around.  Did I dream this?

Gerald

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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: beat the pro!
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:38:30 GMT

> LIGHTNING    3, Maple Leafs 276 super seasons!!!

I realize that the Lightning is an expansion team, but really -- 276
to 3?!  Not even the Dream Team ran up scores like that!  :-)

[Yes, I know it's a formatting bogosity, but I couldn't resist...]
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From: simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson)
Subject: Re: Ottawa service
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:19:00 GMT

In article <7111@transfer.stratus.com> scooter@hirgon.hw.stratus.com (Scott Jeffrey) writes:
>In article <pavalin-091092101142@47.168.128.227> pavalin@bnr.ca (Paul Valin) writes:
>>clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen) wrote:
>>>) How was "O Canada" sung?
>>I can't answer the first question but I can tell you the announcements
>>are bilingual and that the bilingual version of 'O Canada' is sung.
>	Who was the woman who sung the anthem?  She was mighty fine...

This was Ottawa's own Alanis.  One of the highlights of the evening was hearing
the PA announcer say something like:

"Will you please rise and welcome Alanis, whose new album is coincidentally
being released this week..." 

Oh, the cheese...

Anyway, that's who it was.

Later,
Me
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From: v050lt62@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott C St. Joseph)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Eric Lindros
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


         Well, I know that there has been alot of discussion about the Lindros
trade on the net since the trade, but I think due time should be given before
the verdict is given. Of course, I'm a Lindros fan, I have to be since I'm a
die-hard Flyers fan, and believe me, the last few years I've been dying. I love
to hear the arguments that say he doesn't look that good, as I much say so as
well, but the fact of the matter is, the young kid has 4 goals and 1 assist, in
4 games. How can someone argue with that? Sure I expect the confrontation in
Quebec, as I also believe they got stiffed hard, but as that one guy said,
Ricci is overrated, Hextall is too old... it is hard to watch you favorite 
players leave, as the "entire" Flyer team roster has in the last few years.
	And I think everything should stand on a quote from Wayne, "He's bigger
than I was when I was a rookie, he's stronger than I was, and if he scores 138 
points this season, then he is better than I was." Maybe not an exact quote,
but the same meaning. Although I expect Lindros to continue to receive flames,
let's make some good decisions, not some rash judgements. I'm still waiting
to address my verdict on whether the trade was a good one all the way around,
was what we gave up too much to give. And as Hextall said on the Flyers early
success, "Ask me again after twenty games," and I'll have to say the same.  

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From: jwodzia@dino.uucp (john wodziak)
Subject: Re: If I were Neil Smith...
Reply-To: jwodzia@dino.UUCP (john wodziak)
Organization: Clemson University Engineering Department
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:31:12 GMT

In article <92290.103425WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu> <WJS116@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>his prime, ripe for trading.  What if the Rangers offered, say, Doug Weight,
>Vanbiesbrouck, and James Patrick for Robatille, Kurri, and Steve Weeks.
>You may think this is crazy.  Maybe you're right, but think of this- the
>Rangers can now put out two big offensive lines-Messier, Kurri, Robatille,
>and Turcotte, Amonte, Graves.  Mike Richter is free to step up as #1 goalie
>with Weeks as a fairly capable backup.  Back in LA, Weight combines with

>form the defense.  Beezer and Hrudey then become the most capable tandem
>in the league, and lightening the workload could prolong both netminders'
>careers.  On a final note, all of this conjecture is pointless anyway, because

Note to LA: PLEASE keep Steve Weeks. I was so happy when the $#%@#$% Rangers
	got rid of him.

Also I remember Neil Smith saying last year ( on some show or another) that he
wanted to have the best 1-2 Punch in the net possible. Sort of like Moog/Lemi
in Edmonton/Boston(I think). I hope the #$@%#$!@%$#% Rangers don't start
trading 
away players like Weight and Amonte. I am Still upset that they let 
Tony Granoto
go in the trade for Nichlos. Although seeing what they got for him 
it may not have been a bad deal. 

What the $#%#$%$ Rangers really need is to stop listening
to people who start saying 1940 every May and June and play hockey in those
months. I'm not talking about Islanders/Devils/Caps/Waddler fans but the NY
media and their own fairweather fans. Being a %^#$#^#%$%^#%%^@ Rangers fan
means suffering. I'm convinced of that now.

Stuck in Hockey Hell,
JRW
jwodzia@eng.clemson.edu
From: RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: roussel/defense/Lord Stanley
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:45:47 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

As a Penguins fan let me say this.  If Roussel plays like the way he did last
night and the Flyers get any defense at all they'll be a playoff team.  With a
good defense the Flyers will be a Stanley Cup contender!!!!!!!!!!
-Rob
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From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Subject: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:48:23 GMT


	A freind of mine and I are in a HEATED DISCUSSION, and maybe a few
of the more knowledgable fans out there can help clarify our disagreement.

	In the 1975-1976 and 1976-1977 seasons Cleveland had a profesional 
Hockey team of some sorts.

	I feel it was the (NHL) Cleveland Barons, that eventually folded
and joined forces or became the NOW Minnesota North Stars.

	My freind feels that the Cleveland Barons were NEVER an (NHL) team
and the Cleveland Barons were no more than an (AHL) or (IHL) team. And that
the Minnesota North Stars were formed sometime in the 1960's.

	Which is the correct answer, or are neither of us correct!

- Dan
From: 126580828@cats.ucis.vill.edu (!GENTILE, JOSEPH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Eric Lindros
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:10:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <92279.144151DMB144@psuvm.psu.edu>, <DMB144@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>What do you guys think of this kid.  He's 19-years-old, but he is a moose.
>I could not imagine being 6'4" and 235 pounds.  I have a feeling he is just goi
>ng to run over the rest of the NHL.  The Flyers will lose because their blue li
>ne stinks, but Eric will make news.  Every game I've seen him play (which I mus
>t admit is only two or three) he has had some huge hits.  I had the opportunity
> to go to a preseason Flyers game and see him live from my seat at the red line
> in Hershey Park Arena (which is only a few rows from the ice.  The guy is huge
>!
>                           Doug Banks
>                           PSU--Middletown
> 
>                     Go Flyers!!

overrated player in the NHL since Mario the Moose.  The man has not yet played
a professional game of hockey, and he is labeled the next Gretzky. Yeah, he
was great in the Canada Cup and the olympics, but this is the NHL.  Sure he
is big, but he lacks the mental toughness  that  comes with experience.  What is
going to happen when a Tie Domi or a Probert comes looking to kick his ass?
He is, after all, a prime target for the goons of hockey.
      I say let the kid play a few seasons before calling him the greatest
thing since sliced bread.  Once he proves himself, I will admit it if I am 
wrong.  All the media is doing is putting tons of pressure on him. Let him play
! 
      Or better yet, let Domi get his mitts on him!!!

                                                     Joe "Chaos" Gentile

LETS GO RANGERS!!!!
saying "1940" = Instant death!
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Keywords: Foodland instead of the quote
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:39:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HMS

>I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice advertising?
>For those of you who saw the KBL or ESPN broadcast of the Pens-Flyers game,
>>you saw that Bob Johnson's quote "It's a great day for hockey" has been
>removed from the ice.  But what is on the ice (in addition to the Pens 

They used to have "UnitedWay" logos on the Boston Garden ice for years.
Since Fleet Banks agreed to be a major investor in the New Boston Garden,
its logos already appear on the Garden's ice and will become a permanent
fixture once the New Garden opens in '95.

I think ice logos are OK as long as they're not huge in size and don't
intefere with playing or watching the game.

NHL viewers/fans are lucky that the hockey players don't look like walking
billboards in their uniforms (i.e.olympic athletes) and have all
the imaginable sponsor logos attached to every point on their jerseys.

-PPV Mark
From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NJ Devils - Flyers tickets
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:44:17 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

I have a pair of seats for the NJ Devils - Flyers game at
the Byrne arena ..  The game is saturday.  Anyone in the
NJ area who wants them and can take a drive to Piscataway
can have them for $60.00 for the pair and it includes the
priveliged parking pass.

email me back at: cliffr@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com or phone
me at (908) 699-7962, from 8:30am to 4:30pm.

The game is this saturday, so act FAST.

Cliff
Xref: sparky rec.sport.hockey:17970 alt.fan.letterman:1256
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey,alt.fan.letterman
Subject: Re: Manon Rheaume on Tonight's Show?
Keywords: Manon Rheaume NHL Tampa Bay Lightnings
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:17:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.

Inscribed upon tablet <92Oct9.223936edt.47890@neat.cs.toronto.edu>, the mighty veatch@cs.toronto.edu records thusly:
-=>vv1@csri.toronto.edu (Marc J. Ouellette) writes:
-=>
-=>>Someone in rec.sport.hockey was wondering if Manon Rheaume was really
-=>>supposed to be on Letterman tonight (Sep 29th). 
-=>
-=>>For the hockey neophytes, Manon Rheaume is the female goalie who has
-=>>been given a try-out with the NHL expansion franchise in Tampa Bay.
-=>
-=>She s'posed to be on tonight (Friday Oct 9)

	She was....  ooh lala...  "ah-key ees mah passion!"  quite exellently
babelicious, I can see dave was really psyched



-- 
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  /(*)\         hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu                 
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/IIIIIII\       Happiness is a warm gun.
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:28:07 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <16207@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
I wrote:
 [ why the Sabres grabbed Sweeny ]
>> A desperate, gasping need for experienced defensemen, most likely.
>
>Bob Sweeney is a centre ... not a defenceman. You are thinking of Don
>Sweeney.

Well, that's a big "oops" from THIS commentator.  :-)

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: gary@igor.tamri.com (Gary Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Sharks lose to Bruins 8-2
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:06:19 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <1992Oct16.062345.1598@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>Thursday, October 15, 7:30 P. M., at the Cow Palace:
>
>The Sharks were outplayed by the Bruins in all aspects of the game, including
>goaltending, special teams, hustling, shooting, defense, et al., as the Bruins
>skated to an easy 8-2 victory over the Sharks 
>
I'll say.  It was probably the least inspiring performance I've seen from the
team at home.  The Bruins were faster, stronger, and much more willing to
take the body than the Sharks.  Even when they get beat they usually seem
to be trying harder.  The third period the team was just going through the
motions.

>(I missed the three stars...)
>
The stars last night were:
	3. Banks
	2. Leach?
	1. Kvartalnov
	(all, of course, from the Broons)

gary
JJ, C, 5-9

-- 
--
Gary Schwartz					gary@igor.tamri.com
Toshiba America MRI, Inc.		
280 Utah Ave					phone:	(415) 875-3483
From: RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: flyers got lucky!
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:22:29 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

No the Flyers didn't get lucky.  They played smart got great goaltending
- Recchi was really pumped for the game.  True the Penguins did dominate
with better scoring oportunities but the Flyers patiently waited and got the
tying goals when the Penguins went into their defensive lapse.  The Penguins
are lucky they got a tie out of it after that 3rd period and overtime.

A game is 65 minutes not 40.
-Rob
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From: fafuria@der.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia)
Subject: Re: Flyers fans whine at Cap Centre!
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:35:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.170344.25039@wam.umd.edu> giant@next08wor.wam.umd.edu (Soul Doctor) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.065634.27384@Princeton.EDU>  
>fafuria@der.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct12.173748.18317@wam.umd.edu>  
>giant@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Soul Doctor) writes:
>> >
>> 
>> Listen.  If you say he was going to get his ass kicked, then only a fool
>> wouldn't have gotten help.  Why don't *you* quit being a baby and go  
>slander
>> fans of other teams somewhere else? 
>
>The reason he would have gotten his ass kicked was because he 
>continued to yap even after the security got there.  He
>was being a bigger asshole cause he knew he could get
>away with it while the security was there.  And if
>an opposing teams fans come to your building, wouldn't
>you yell at them too?  I thought so...

Okay, okay.  I misread you on that part.  Yes, hiding behind security
like that is pretty lame.  And yes, I *would* yell at fans from opposing
teams.  You are right on all these counts, I must concede.

(Yuck.  Apologizing to a Caps fan is embarassing.  Maybe we can keep
this just between us, eh?)

Fred
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: (Gerry Gryschuk)
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:14:17 GMT

From article <Bvyp61.Aox@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>, by rdelmund@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Rob Del Mundo):
[Deleted the rest of my article...]
> Given that fans have learned to become used to seeing ads on boards, it's
> very possible that if on-ice advertising became an NHL standard we'd all
> eventually become used to it as well.
> 
> However, I think the issue rests on the overall appearance of the rink (and
> the sport).  When you watch a sport in your favourite venue, whether it be
> live or on the tube, you're bombarded with ads in their usual places 
> everywhere you go.   Of course, this is all necessary..the teams have to
> generate $$$, right?   
> 
> But if it were all up to me, I simply draw the line at placing ads on 
> to the surface itself.
> 
> Baseball fields, tennis courts, basketball courts, racetrcks, you name it.
> The ads hit you left, right and centre...all around the *perimeter*.  It's
> a business of dollars and cents, that's how it should be.  But keep the
> junk off of the surface itself, and let me *enjoy* the event that I paid
> $10-$25 to see.
> 

I understand what your saying and I think its a valid complaint just not for
me. I don't watch hockey games for their aesthetic appeal and as I said in
my first article the ads no matter where they are don't(won't) bother me.
I go to the game to watch the action and only if the ads were to make
it difficult for me to follow the movement of the puck would it upset me.
--
Gerald Gryschuk            Saskatoon,Saskatchewan = a place with 9 months
gerry@sask.usask.ca           of hockey and 3 months of poor skating.
Go Habs!!!		             (Maldonado is a bum.)
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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: Re: Best line this year?
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:28:05 GMT

IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (the DM) writes:

>I'm not laughing at Juneau/Oates/Kvartalnov, BUT
>just imagine  Kvartalnov/Oates/NEELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>                        Pat Ellis

Wouldn't   Juneau - Oates - Neely  be better?  


=================== 
Evan Pritchard ---- 

epritcha@psych.uiuc.edu  [alternatively  EVAN33@uiucvmd.bitnet ]
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pacifiers in honor of Lindros
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:51:57 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Oct14.172921.12253@Princeton.EDU> fafuria@der.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia) writes:
>It's not just that he didn't like their city.  Eric Lindros offended them.

How did he offend them?  He said he didn't want to play for the Nordiques.
How is that offensive to the citizens of Quebec?  

>Also, he prevented them from getting the huge amount of attention that they
>would have gotten with a star like him on their team.  Sure, he has a right
>to dislike their town, but they also have a right to dislike anyone who
>expresses that much of a disdain for their home.

That's what I don't understand: why do they *care* whether he likes their
home or not?  They're happy with it, and his opinion shouldn't change that.

>I wasn't too pleased when a Texan here at Princeton called Philadelphia a
>"shit city," and I am sure you don't like hearing people say stuff like
>"Pittsburgh is a real pit."  It just doesn't make you feel friendly toward
>the person.

I don't live in Pittsburgh anymore, though I did enjoy my time there.  Rest
assured that you, or anyone else, can say whatever you like about
Pittsburgh, or about Mountain View, my current home, and it won't offend me
one bit.  I might consider you ignorant, but my basic reaction is one of
indifference.  

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: hp@mdavcr.mda.ca (Hossein Parandeh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: If I were Neil Smith...
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:55:24 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

In article <1992Oct15.160006.4139@draco.macsch.com> bnc@portia.si.macsch.com (Brian Casey) writes:
>
>	1. Robitaille was just named captain of the Kings, and even before
>       that he is as untouchable as Gretzky.  Besides his obvious hockey
>       talent, hockey in LA needs a marquee player, and right now Luc is
>       the man.
>
Nobody is untouchable in the NHL, even Wayne and Mario. The right deal comes
along and the guy is gone.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:47:54 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: DISCOUNTED PENS TICKETS

Anybody interested in two tickets for Thursday's Penguins-Canadiens game,
please e-mail me at RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu.  Two tickets behind the goal in
section C, discounted $10.00 off the regular price down to $66.00 instead of
$76.00........GO PENS - BEAT THE CANADIENS!!!!!!!!!
                                                   -Rob
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:06:58 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens Uniforms

You'll get used to the new uniforms.  At first I hated them.  Everybody's
skeptical to change.  But I started to like them.  The home ones seem like
they're brighter or something.  You can clearly read everyone's name on the
back of them - I like 'em.  It's going to take a while to get used to the
sides but Baldwin's out for a buck - ole Howie's trying to make money off
of everything......As far as the road uniforms go I don't like copying off
the Rangers - you'd think the Pens could keep their own identity.  But the
Rangers are a great team - I guess it's Baldwin's way of saying "Hey We're
a great team too."                                -Rob
     DID IT!!!  DID IT!!!  DO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO PENGUINS!!!!!


Patrick Division - Toughest Division In Hockey
                 2 wins - 1 loss - 2 ties overall already with two division
games.  Look for Patrick to be avove .500 all season overall.