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From: Andra Barrow <andra@franklin.bchs.uh.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Quality of Life <spoilers>
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:04:44 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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> >McFadden seems to be trying to modify the role of Dr. Crusher. 
> 
>      I agree with that.  Or more precisely, "The role of Dr Crusher is
>      being modified."  I don't konw how much of this has to do with
>      McFadden but its clear the actress has grabbed hold of the changes
>      and is doing everything she can with them. 

Actually, what seems to be happening is that more and more of Gates is seeping  
into Beverly's characterization. Take the way she's starting to sit for  
example. First season, prim, proper, straight-as-the-nearest-distance-  
between-two-points Dr. Crusher would _never_ have plopped down in her desk  
chair (let alone on the end of a biobed) and propped a leg up on the seat with  
her. That posture is purely a Gates thing.

>						 I think we see this
>      more during the scene in Beverly's office where she attempts to
>      share her thoughts on life.  

Yes, she has loosened up a _lot_ when talking to her fellow crewmembers. She  
seems a lot more confident about expressing her views on things (not like she  
ever really refrained from expressing anything) and she doesn't go ballistic  
when challenged _quite_ so much anymore...although I've always looked forward  
to the intermittent spats--they're fun to watch. ;)

>				(Remember, in the set up to that
>      scene, Worf has been teaching her to fight with one of his
>      bat'leh... and he has gashed her arm).

She was having Worf teach her how to use a bat'leh (sp?) sword. Isn't that like  
that nasty-looking, crescent sword he has hanging on the wall in his quarters?  
The one he took Gowron out with? Sheesh! What a swing in hobbies! Last time we  
heard anything, her pet hobby was ethnobotany (sparking lots of hilarious  
comments about Bev being a shroom-head.;))....now she's swinging deadly Klingon  
weapons around! But then again, controlled barbarism _is_ fascinating. Yes,  
Beverly Crusher is getting very much more interesting than she used to be. I'm  
just crossing my fingers that it continues. Who knows? Maybe Jean-Luc Picard  
will finally sit up and take notice. ;))


Andra Barrow
andra@transposon.bchs.uh.edu

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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: How fast is Scotty's loaner shuttle?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:49:16 GMT

slovick@Apple.COM (Linda Slovick) writes:

>I figure that Scotty will soup it up, but how fast is the shuttle the
>Big-E loaned him?  Does it have warp capability?  Just curious.

>Linda Slovick
>slovick@apple.com       "and proto-humanoids might fly out my gluteal fold!"

The shuttle that Scotty was given is capable of low warp speeds..I think
warp 2 is the most it can do.  I don't have my handy-dandy tech manual with
me, so I can't really be sure, but it is capable of warp speeds.

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From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: New TNG Action Figures are now in stores, part 2
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:53:47 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

Hi, it's me again. Just wanted to let you all know that I got the Romulan
figure at another Target store, which means I'm now only short the Borg
and Troi.

And wait--I got *another* goofed-up package! The package panel says it's
Data, but the actual figure inside is Picard. And on top of_that_, the
accesories are all Picards, except for the com badge, which is labeld
Worf!

-- 
Julie Bixby                        Internet: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Engage Romulan .sig cloaking device....
From: cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Gomer Pyle/Seinfeld!
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:57:33 EST
Distribution: usa,world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Nov17.213627.28101@rtsg.mot.com>, collier@rtsg.mot.com (John T. Collier) writes:
> This takes a little explanation...
> 
> reading displeasure, I present:
> 
> 	GOMER PYLE, U.F.P. (United Federation of Planets)
> Captain Picard:	"Open hailing frequencies to the Intrepid, Mr. Pyle."
> Gomer:		"Gollllly, Captain, I'm not sure which button to
> 		 push ... maybe this one here ..."
> Captain Picard:	"No you idiot ..."
> Sound Effect:	"BOOOM!"  <- The sound of the Intrepid blowing up.
> Gomer:		"Shazam, shazam, shazam!"
> Captain Picard:	"Mr. Worf, please take Mr. Pyle to the transporter
> 		 room and beam him into outer space."
> Worf:		"Gladly, Captain."


I think Seinfeld would fit well with TNG.

 Captain Picard:	"Open hailing frequencies to the Intrepid, Ensign"
 George:		"Huh...?  What, you looking at me?"
 Seinfeld:		"Yeah, he's looking at you, what do you think you're
				doing?"
 George:		"OK, OK!  Every time you try to do your job, just look 
				where it gets you."
   <George punches buttons, shaking his head, rolling his eyes around>

Bridge door bursts open....
 Kramar:  <all smiles>	"Captain, will you excuse me for a moment...I..."
 Captain Picard:	"Lt. Kramar?!  But you were in sickbay..you were ordered
                         to stay there for treatment-"
 Kramar:		"I was...omigosh, look at the viewer!!!!"

   Crew looks up in horror as huge Bart Simpson face shows up on screen.


Someone else can take it from here....
-Pamela Cho-
From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: NOT NEW BUT... (The Drumhead)
Date: 22 Nov 92 04:48:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov21.234828.17676
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <rawdon.722187614@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <tomcat.722142524@cwis> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>>batemanc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mad Chris) writes:
>>>In 'The Drumhead' the rampaging ex-Admiral observes that Picard has
>>>violated the Prime Directive nine times since becoming the captain
>>>of the Enterprise. Does anyone know if this is accurate to the
>>>episodes, or just a ball park figure? Do some episodes constitute more
>>>than one violation (e.g. Pen Pals)?
>
>>The number is accurate...here's a list of the episodes where he does"
>>"Justice"
>>"Angle One"
>>"Pen Pals"
>>"Up the Long Ladder"
>>"The Ensigns of Command"
>>"Who Watches the Watchers"
>>"The High Ground"
>>"Legacy"
>>"First Contact"
>>Then, General Order #1 was violated again in "The Masterpiece Society"...for
>>a grand total of 10.
>
>>This was from the List of Lists compiled by Mark Holtz.
>
>I'm not sure how you can construe "The Ensigns Of Command", "The High Ground",
>"Legacy" or "The Masterpiece Society" as violations of the Prime Directive,
>since none involve primitive civilizations (which are, I believe, the only
>sort that the Prime Directive applies to).  They might constitute some
>violation of some OTHER Starfleet directive, but not the PRIME Directive.
>
>(The the only conceivable violation of the PRIME directive I see in "Up The
>Long Ladder" involves rescuing the pseudo-Irish folk from their doomed
>world; certainly no PRIME Directive violations occurred on the other planet,
>since that planet was by no means primitive.)
>
>But then, we all know that the Prime Directive is a ludicrous rule anyway if
>applied anywhere close to the letter.  (And, it appears, Starfleet is quite
>cognizant of this fact, too, since neither Kirk nor Picard seemed to suffer
>any serious repercussions due to their actions.)
>
>-- 
>Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
>University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI
>
>    "What about you, Captain?" Krill asked.  "Do you seek death, or do you
>run away from it?
>    "Neither," Kiroth answered.  "Death seeks me.  It will find me in time.  
>To run is simply a waste of energy.  To embrace death is sheer madness.  I 
>await death.  When it comes, I will be ready."
>    "To fight, or to flee?"
>    Kiroth looked at his XO with barely contained horror.  "To die."
>		- "Escape From The Holdfast", by Jim Hart; Captain's Log #8
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Rascals...did anyone else like it?
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:48:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bxs37M.3n5@spock.dis.cccd.edu>, markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby) writes...
>I liked it. Sure, the premise was bad, but what they did with it worked
>well--with the lone exception of Worf being beaten by a Ferengi--that
>was just adding insult to injury.

     But wasn't that the point?  The cliched plot, I mean.  
     It seems to me the whole point of the episode was to take
     a HORRIBLE sci-fi cliche and turn it on its ear... which was
     done, on the whole, extremely well.

     Scott
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From: knauer@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase)
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "The Quality of Life"
Keywords: TNG, Data, machine life?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:22:14 GMT

In <1emnn4INN13r@gap.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
Spoilers (minor)
>
[...]
>Geordi and Picard are trapped on board it, with radiation levels rising 
>rapidly.  With time too short to send a shuttle or properly configure a 
[...]
>Data responds to this by locking out the transporter controls, and refuses to 
>release them even under threat of court-martial.  In the end, Riker 

How many of us were wondering "Where is Scotty?  He'd be able to undo the
lock?"

In all seriousness, how can it be that things are so easily "locked" and are
"locked" from just one control panel?  Is there no way at all to override,
even saying "Computer, identify Riker.  Unlock transporter"?  How about
ripping open the panel and patching in something (a tricorder, datapadd, or
even an HP calculator?) to control it?

Rob
--
Rob Knauerhase           University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
knauer@cs.uiuc.edu       Dept. of Computer Science, Gigabit Study Group
   "Eat, drink, and be merry; for tomorrow, ye will be taxed."  America, I
    hope 'change' was worth it...
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From: urbanas@reis54.alleg.edu (Shawn Urbanavage)
Subject: Re: The Riker Manuver
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:38:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.205307.1@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu>  
f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:
> In article <halabe.722121802@andersen>, 
> 	halabe@andersen.uucp (Dan Halabe) writes:
> > This is one of the more annoying affectations of the  
number-one-swagger:
> > After he steps into a turbo-lift, he spins around *real fast*, sets  
his jaw,
> > and sort-of cocks his head.
> > 
> > I think it was worse in the earlier seasons.  Its annoying, but I must  
admit,
> > it impressed the group of strangers I took my last elevator ride with.
> 
> I thought the Riker Manuver was a quick (warp speed) way to get a member  
of
> the opposite sex horizontal!!!
> 
> Richard.
>   (__)   Richard J Appleyard  f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
>   (oo)   Washington State University  
>  ( \/ )  Voice (509) 335-7728  Fax (509) 335-9688 
>   \__/   "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a  
computer!"
No, that's the James T. Kirk manuever!!!!!
Shawn. . . . urbanas@alleg.edu
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: Quality of Life *SPOILERS*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:02:47 GMT

paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil) writes:

>


>Comments from anyone on which side you'd have win that bet?

The guys.  I miss Doc with the auburn hair, and now that
she has her first season haircut back (yay! No more one side
longer than the other cuts!) I'd like to see Gates go darker.
She looks all one colour with the strawbery blond.

LJC


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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Quality of Life (spoilers)-data
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:28:33 GMT

In <1992Nov23.031750.23653@u.washington.edu> gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.020645.10281@midway.uchicago.edu> airn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>Data should be shot.  Who is in charge of the Enterprise, is there a chain
>>>of command or not?!  Riker's credibility as a commanding officer hs surely
>>>been lost.  What happens if every bridge officer in Starfleet starts 
>>>disobeying orders like that?  Well of course it's only a TV show, but this 
>>>constant Data Mutiny is wearing thin.

>>Hear, hear. Officers should not be excused from following orders just because
>>they personally are uncomfortable. If it's not a clear-cut case, that everyone
>>in their right minds would agree on, of someone giving an immoral order, they
>>should obey first and ask questions later. 

>	Such things don't exist in the real world.

>	Glad you folks aren't in either the military OR the police. Of course,
>there ARE some positions open in the Third World....

I think the real issue here is one we probably will never see addressed in
TNG:  What would happen if Data did what he did AND PICARD AND LAFORGE DIED
BECAUSE OF IT?

Of course, TNG *could* address this issue by having some other character
(e.g., a commodore or admiral or important scientist) die as a result of
well-meant insubordination on the part of a crewmember as we saw here, but I
don't think TNG is likely to show one of its characters doing something so
*gasp* dramatically catastrophic.

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"My favorite Star Trek With Jean-Luc episode is the one where some alien
 kills another in the first five minutes and then the crew debates for the
 next 55 minutes about what to do.  My favorite Star Trek With Captain Kirk
 is the same as anyone else's, the one where Kirk, overacting, falls in
 love with a beautiful alien babe, which Spock calls illogical, and where a
 bunch of security guys die.  You know the one?"
							- A friend
From: gt4278b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jensulu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re:  Picard's head
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:15:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Didn't anybody else see (or vote in) the TVGuide poll?

It's sold regularly at conventions....:-)

Jensulu the Village Idiot

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From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
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Subject: Re: Amusing Season 6 errors (None posted previously)
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:40:25 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: phlan.sw.stratus.com

No real spoiler here:

Various people have commented on Someone smoking a cheroot in a
holodeck scenario.

This IS on the holodeck.  The smoke itself could be completely
illusory.  The cheroot and its smoke are for atmosphere only (no
pun).



-- 
det@phlan.sw.stratus.com   |  "Laddie, you'll be needin' something to wash
                           |  that doon with."
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From: JAM@ECL.PSU.EDU (Joseph A Miranda)
Subject: Re: Teleporter Question
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 04:05:47 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <gp2001-171192020853@m248-112.bgsu.edu> gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu writes:
> In article <168A11D6A.97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu>,
> 97994779@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu wrote:
> >     Why do they have transporter pads? They can transport from anywhere to
> > anywhere without standing on a pad, why does it matter? Wouldn't it be easier
> > to just do point to point transports?
>
> I don't own a tech manual or anything so this is purely a guess on my part.
>  I think the pad acts as a collector.  It's help keep the beam together. 

It also uses almost twice the energy of a normal transport.
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: What's the Opinion on Geordi's Beard?
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:36:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: cwis.trussell.722453817
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

vincent@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong) writes:

>It's a silly question, but is "Quality of Life" the first episode in
>which we see Geordi with a beard?

    Sorta...  Data asked him if he planned on letting it grow in last week's
episode, "Fistful of Data's".  He and Geordie had a small discussion at
the beginning of the show.

    Can anyone tell me what the deal is with this?  They seem to be drawing
a whole lot of attention to this issue.  Did LeVar Burton just decide to
grow a beard, so the producers are trying to explain it, or what?

--
   Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
      "Who can doubt that pleasure is the only goal of a reasoned life?"
                                                   -- Epicurus
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From: puter@orphan.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Transporters and replicators
Keywords: TNG, Data, machine life?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:45:52 GMT

In article <rawdon.722463949@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:

>Except that food replicators can create organic matter.  Why, then, can't they
>create *living* organic matter?

Simply because no one knows what life *is* still. IMHO, they can 
replicate organic material, but not the _life_ to make it
*living* organic material.

-- 
(Puter is a deranged individual at puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com)
In rivers and bad governments, the lightest things swim at top.
							-- Poor Richard
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From: brewster@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: First message.
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:51:22 GMT

This is fantastic, I am a major TNG fan and just stumpled on this news group. 
I look forward to reading and sending ideas in the future.  This is also a test
to see if my computer will post a message.
From: ohdav@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (David OH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Nannites Vs Borg
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:29:58 GMT
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server


I saw the episode 'Evolution' yesterday (we are way behind on TNG seasons)
and thought that the nannites (right spelling??) could be an effective
weapon against the Borg. Imagine if these mechanical viruses got onboard 
the Borg ship! Hmm....any comments?

Yew Siang (Damn it! Bus error, core dump!)
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Quality of Live Value Network!
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:30:11 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

If you shave off your beard, I'll dye my hair green!
No I don't think so, and neither did the Shabang-o-meter.  This one was a 
tricky one, had a long build-up, and the actions and reactions were not 
what I would have expected or even thought logical.  I had to keep say 
"yes, that's fine, and......" waiting for the next bit, but it was 
far in coming along if at all.  Perhaps I better watch it again,  but it 
only gets a 4.

Next week: Repeat, repeat, repeat - good, I need a vacation

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

Countdown to Visions....4,559,338,238...4,559,338,237...
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From: Chrys Pelegris <chrysp@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Why 30 minute show?
X-To: CHRIS ANDERSON
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:02:04 GMT

CA>Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
  >From: chrisa@fc.hp.com
  > (Chris Anderson)
  >Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
  >X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

CA>For those of you who have not seen ``Fistful of Datas'', !!SPOILERS AHOY!!



CA>I have  looked  through  several  postings  in this group  about the recent T
  >episode  ``Fistful of Datas'' and not ONE person  mentioned  that the show on
  >lasted 30 minutes  this week!  At least on Denver's  KWGN and  Cheyenne's  KG
  >they both aired a 30 minute  version of the show.  I mean, what's going on?
  >6:00 pm Saturday night I flip on the show and I catch the opening  credits.
  >6:30 the  closing  credits  are rolling  up!  The show had what  seemed  like
  >fairly normal plot:  beginning,  middle, and end (with Worf's smile at the ve
  >end!), but it also  seemed  like a lot of the  detail in the show was  missin

    Interesting, according to what I've read, that is QUITE illegal (chopping
    up first run episodes).. I'd recommend you write to your station and complai
    and to P'mount to kick their butts and make sure they don't do it again.  I'
    be quite upset if they chopped it up in HALF up here..

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From: mbecke69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Becker)
Subject: Re: The Riker Manuver
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:49:10 GMT

f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:


>I thought the Riker Manuver was a quick (warp speed) way to get a member of
>the opposite sex horizontal!!!

Nope, Kirk has the patent on that one. :-)

>Richard.
>  (__)   Richard J Appleyard  f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
>  (oo)   Washington State University  
> ( \/ )  Voice (509) 335-7728  Fax (509) 335-9688 
>  \__/   "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
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