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From: ins760z@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (*** Irving Hofman **)
Subject: Re: 4dos version 4.01 vs ndos version 6.01
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:53:44 GMT

nbeck@weber.ucsd.edu (Nathaniel Beck) writes:
: I currently use ndos 6.01 (off norton 6 distribution). I gather than
: ndos if 4dos. I just downloaded 4dos 4.01. Is this a significant
: improvement over ndos 6.01?
: 
: Thanks in advance
: 
: Neal
: 
4DOS 4.01 is a significant improvement over NDOS 6.01.... Definitely worth
using....

Regards,
    Irving.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
From: cli@netcom.com (Concurrent Logic Inc)
Subject: Public Domain E-Mail on PC
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 20:07:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: na
Keywords: mail,pc mail

I was wondering what E-mail programs are available on the
PC that can talk to the Sun Unix mail program.  We currently use
CCMail to send mail between PC's but it will cost quite a bit to
get a gateway that will interface between the Unix mail and CCMail.
Public domain programs would be nice, shareware is also acceptable.
Low cost commercial options will be considered as well.

I don't have anonymous ftp access but can usually find a way to get
such software.

The PC's are connected to the Sun's via PC/NFS if that is any help.

I'm currently  getting a program called Eudora for the Mac which does
a similar function and all the reviews of it have been great.

Please e-mail the answer to me as I don't typically read these news
groups.

Thanks
Scott Evans
scott@logic.com
From: hartnegg@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Klaus Hartnegg)
Subject: Re: Offset sector disk formatter wanted
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:26:49 GMT

berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:

>rhunt@med.unc.edu (Rick Hunt) writes:
>>I am looking for a program that was very useful long ago when I had an
>>Atari ST.  It was used to format floppy disks with a offset sector format
>>that sped up disk access by about 75%.  Since the ST used the same kind of
>>disk format as the PC, I thought there might be a program floating around
>>that would do this for the PC, but I haven't seen one.  Anyone have any
>>pointers?
>*----
>The shareware "diskrw" program appears to do this.  You run a blank
>disk of any format that interests you first so it can establish the
>best interleave for your machine.

Yes and no.

Yes, the high speed of DiskRW compared to other programs for the
same purpose comes (partly) from using this trick.

No, DiskRW is not a formatting program, is a program to copy disks,
to store all contents of a disk in an image file and to write such
files back to disks.

It can also format the destination disk, but this format will be 
a standard format. I find it better to have disks formatted in the
usual way and have intelligent programs to access them faster.
DiskRW is a fast way to copy disks, a fast file copier will come soon.

>Of course, the format you use might be faster on your own machine,
>but much slower on others, so you might not have much of an
>advantage if you primarily make floppy disks for use elsewhere.

That's why DiskRW has to be initialized on every machine.

By the way: on MS-DOS the speedup is more like 25-50%, I never
observed 75%.

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From: bunny@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Laura Kozma)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Clip Art 
Organization: AT&T, Piscataway, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:33:23 GMT


Thanks to all of you who responded to my request for
Word Perfect clip art.   Apparently, there are two
good places to look: wuarchive.wustl.edu and
wsmr-simtel20.army.mil; the WP clip art at wuarchive.wustl.edu
apparently is a mirror of the clip art on simtel.  Also,
if you have .PCX or .PCC files, you can use them with WordPerfect.
There is a program called "wplook" which lets you look 
at Word Perfect clip art without forcing you to load WP.

Unfortunately for me, I found the files,  but the archive program
I downloaded appeared to be corrupted. So, I wound up creating
my picnic flyer a different way.

Again, thanks for the help.

Laura Kozma
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Piscataway, NJ   att!attmail!leppright
From: ted@helios.ucsc.edu (Ted Cantrall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Hardware Config Report Program Needed
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:52:51 GMT
Organization: UCO/Lick Observatory
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

There are several  on WUARCHIVE ( ftp -i 128.252.135.4 ) in the
/mirrors/msdos/sysutl directory.
			-ted-

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From: tabq7@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Mapmaker
Reply-To: tabq7@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:29:58 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get the PC version of Mapmaker?

Thanks,

Phil
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From: U27554@uicvm.uic.edu (D.C.I.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: >>> FOR SALE: IBM based Softwares <<<
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:50:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

IBM based softwares.        Disk Size.
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Pctools Ver. 7.1            (3.5")      manuals are included.
Pctools Antivirus Ver. 1.3  (3.5")      latest virus checker from Pctool.
Window 3.0                  (5.25"HD)   manual and title page are included.
WordFinder by Microlytics   (3.5")      Electronic Thesaurus
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 I will like to sell this as a combo for <<< $90 >>> plus shipping. I
would prefer money order or cashier check. Items listed here will not be
seperated. Unless, you have a better offer. Thank you for you time in
reading this post.

                                                       Wilson Lam

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From: mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James)
Subject: Re: help : which is better MSDOS 5.0 or DRDOS 6.0
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:02:11 GMT

scls_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Eric Scoles) writes:

>Re. the shell -- Mr. Johnson probably didn't try to do anything with it (
>8-) ), 'cause you more or less can't.  He's probably got a real shell.  So
>if a bundled shell matters, IMHO, that's a strike versus DRDOS.  But the
>task switcher is quite nice -- _very_ stable!  It has a nice feature set,
>too.  And it uses XMS (the DOS task swapper doesn't). I think the task
>switcher is the best bonus, and hardly anybody mentions it.  

I agree. I like the option of using the task switcher without the shell.
Point for DRDOS.  But today I've hit a little snag.  Trying to 
run DRDOS on this #@$%! 286 and the task switcher cuts my COM1 connection
when I go to another application. DOS 5 never did this.
Anyone else had this problem?
Is there a fix for this? 

>>Jim Johnson-
>Eric Scoles			: <<insert witty, pithy comment 

--
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       barf  [ba:rf]  2.  "He suggested using FORTRAN, and everybody barfed."
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From: jsykes@dadd.ti.com (Jonathan Sykes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Downloading from UNIX
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:48:10 GMT
Reply-To: jsykes@dadd.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

wuarchive.wustl.edu has a big collection of MSDOS stuff in

  /mirrors/msdos

If you have a file name and need a site you can try the archive servers - 

telnet archie.unl.edu

login as archie

type "prog <filename>" where <filename> is the name you are looking for. The
server creates a list of all sites that have that file and where it is at
that site. You can also get help at the archie> prompt.

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From: che358w@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: keypress virus pops up and down.Help!!
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:52:04 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

Hi
  I have an aunt who has a confuser that has contracted the key press virus. I
decided that since they are always getting viruses to install vshield93 in the
autoexec file. All this file does is prompt, path and run mouse.com and win.com.
I inserted vsheild before win.com and it found key in memory. I booted off a
floppy and scanned with scanv93. (all files). nothing was found. I moved the
vshield command up before mouse.com and this time nothing was found. After
windows executed I started vhield and still it didn't find anything. It's
as though keypress pops up at a specific point and then dispears again
almost straight away.
  Can anyone tell me if this is expected behaviour for keypress and how I
can find it on the hard disk?

Thanks so much.
Samantha Lane .
che358w@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: 486/50's vs Sun 2's
From: stuartw@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Stuart Woolford)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:35:27 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

spagiola@amy5.stanford.edu (Stefano P. Pagiola) writes:

>*** Irving Hofman ** writes
>> PC-Magazine recently compared the speed of a 486/50,
>> Sun, Next, Mac, etc and found that the 486/50 was the
>> fastest of the lot. They conducted benchtests by timing
>> certain processor intensive operations in
>> wordprocessors, spreadsheets, and desktop publishing
>> using the same programs on all platforms. It is quite
>> interesting reading.... 
>> 
>But at least in regard to the one comparison I was able to replicate  
>myself (scrolling WP on 486 vs NeXT) quite unreliable.  The 486/50  
>was in fact quite fast at scrolling WordPerfect, but no more so than  
>the NeXT (non-turbo).  Bearing in mind that the 486 was scrolling WP  
>(DOS version) in text mode (ie without showing actual text formatting  
>other than by color changes, and without displaying embedded  
>graphics) while the NeXT was scrolling fully-formatted text (font +  
>size changes) _and_ the embedded graphics, I was more impressed with  
>the NeXT.  
>Two caveats: 1. in both cases the initial run through the document  
>was in fact faster on the 486; once the entire document was in RAM,  
>there was no difference in scrolling speed.  2. for a fair test, you  
>need to use the scroll bar in the NeXT WP version; using the  
>line-at-a-time scroll arrows is very slow, about as slow as scrolling  
>by repeatedly hitting the down cursor key on the 486 rather than  
>holding it down.
>I couldn't judge how fair or accurate the tests of other programs and  
>other platforms were, for lack of direct experience or boxes to try  
>it on.

perhaps this would have more to do with the key-repeat rate on the 486 ??
also: a 486 running 32bit OS/2 2.0 programs is about 4 time faster on
integer code ( let alone floating point ) than the same machine under dos.
(ie: think about what you are actually measuring !!!)
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From: xx@apres.UUCP (Dennis Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Mistubishi MP286 Computer 
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 12:47:21 CDT
Organization: Applied Research, Cary, Illinois

I am trying to help someone get there machine running again.  Problem
is it is a "non standard clone".  I need someone that has the machine
or has run across it to give me some help in getting this baby running
again.  Here it is:
When we cut the machine on it goes through a bunch of power up tests
,which he said it did not used to do.  We get the following errors:
FXD INIT FAIL Continue "F1" Key               and
F-002 FDD Not Ready
Can someone please give me a direction to go in with this.  Both the
floppy and HD are both good.  There are about 15 switches in the front
panel.  What is the default position of the switches also?

Thank You
Dennis Robinson
djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
xx@apres.UUCP

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From: kopackm@lonex.rl.af.mil (Michael A. Kopack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Now, now children .......
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:58:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: RL

Ok, I just got done weeding throught all the yelling and bashing on this
group AND comp.sys.amiga.advocacy. I must say that I'm really getting tired
of all this.  Yes, I am an Amiga owner, but don't go calling me any names
yet MS-Dos'ers, and I'm not a traitor Amiga friends. Look, I just want to
let you all in on a little secret. If your happy with your computer, then
shut up and be happy with it!!!!!!

EVERY computer has it's good and bad points. I've heard the arguements made
for every computer from the lowly Commodore Pet, all the way up to Cray Supercomputers.
It's always the same... each computer is usually good at doing some things
and piss poor at doing others.

MS-Dos and Friends: Quit bashing on Amigas. OK, so we didn't get the advantage
of having a company that supports us and lots of software developers. But
does that mean that we are any less capable of accomplishing the tasks we
set forth to do on our systems.

Amiga buddies: Stop harping on the PC community. They have a system with
a much longer lineage and heritage than ours. Their systems are capable and
usually of good quality. These people looked for a computer and decided that
the MS-Dos arena was the choice for them. We looked for something different
and found it. Each side has made a choice, and has (hopefully) been happy
with it. Argueing with the other group isn't gonna solve any problems with
either system.

What it comes down to is this: why not help each other out. Is there any
reason we all can't work together to just promote COMPUTERS, instead of any
ONE platform. Amiga's handle GUI's and desktop video more easily than PC's,
but PC's crunch numbers and have more support than Amigas. The best of both
worlds is found where each system's strengths are taken advantage of and
used to their fullest.

At my school, we have Macs, PC's, and Amiga's sitting right next to the Unix
boxes. Some people use each of them, because each person finds that one of
the systems there fits their needs and wants in a computer. 

Is it so difficult to imagine PC's and Amigas sitting side-by-side working
together on a project, talking over serial/parrallel/network connections,
banging away at a problem? I work in a government research facility. We have
a few Amigas that are used for some simulations, IBM's used for networks
and controlling systems, Sun's and Decs as Network servers, and Macs for
the secretaries. An intertgrated environment, with each system lending it's
own unique personality, is an environment that can get thing done!

Enough said!!

NO MORE FLAME WARS!!!!!!!

--Mike Kopack

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Changing the bus speed?
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:38:21 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Jul24.163026.21519@qiclab.scn.rain.com| 70465.203@compuserve.com writes:
|rcg1597@zeus.tamu.edu (GUYNN, RICHARD CARL) writes:
|
||	I have seen quite a few people talking about the fact that they
||have upped the bus speed on their boards.  I was just wondering, is
||this simply done by replacing the oscillator crystal?  Or is there
||something else that must be done with the crystal changeout?  Is there
||an easy way to determine whether the board will support the new speed?
|
|You'll likely have to replace most of the parts on the motherboard. 
|They were chosen for the max clock speed it *currently* has. At a
|higher clock rate many of them will have the wrong value.
|
|You want a higher clock rate? Buy a new motherboard. Sorry, but
|that's the way it is.

Increasing Bus speed isn't necessarily the same as increasing 
clock speed. The regular speed for the ISA bus is 8 MHz, but 
some motherboards will let you speed this up to 12 MHz or so. 
Its usually done through the CMOS setup I think....




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From: esudh@warwick.ac.uk (Flint)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: URGENT!!! HELP NEEDED WITH INT 24 FAILURE OVERRIDE !!!!
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:40:30 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK



Hi again, further to my plea for help...

Let me thank all those who replied with solutions. 'tis much appreciated.
(Un)fortunately I stumbled across the solution shortly after the posting.

For those who are interrested.. the solution in quick C is..

#include <dos.h>

void far myroutine(void);

main()
{

	_harderr(myroutine);  /* this bit redirects the vector */

	/* rest of stuff */

}

void far myroutine(){

	printf("This is my error routine..\n");
	/* then to return from this fuction.. use */

	_harderr(0);		/* the 0 is the error return value */
	
	/* Or to go on to use the built in interrupt routine */

	_hardresume(num);	/* num specifies what sort of critical error
				  response to give/prompt for 	*/

}

I hope this helps those who have similar problems....

(Note the inclusion of the number in returning from harderr.. I omitted that
what I replied to those who emailed me personally.)

Cheers,

Ian Coggins

PS.. Thanks to adam, who mailed me, but I couldn't reply to as the mailer
retunred it as unknown... *sigh*
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Changing the bus speed?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:30:26 GMT
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

rcg1597@zeus.tamu.edu (GUYNN, RICHARD CARL) writes:

>	I have seen quite a few people talking about the fact that they
>have upped the bus speed on their boards.  I was just wondering, is
>this simply done by replacing the oscillator crystal?  Or is there
>something else that must be done with the crystal changeout?  Is there
>an easy way to determine whether the board will support the new speed?

You'll likely have to replace most of the parts on the motherboard. 
They were chosen for the max clock speed it *currently* has. At a
higher clock rate many of them will have the wrong value.

You want a higher clock rate? Buy a new motherboard. Sorry, but
that's the way it is.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY)
Subject: Re: Amiga <--> PC diplomacy
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:31:20 GMT

In article <TcHHoB4w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> chrisr@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Ringe) writes:
>I would like to remind you that you are comparing a 486/50 to a 040/25.  
>Have you though to compare a processor on equal MHZ?  Sure, you could say 
>that the 486 is faster, but you neglect to say how fast the 040/50 is!
>
>Not to mention that the 486/50 has heating problems, whereas the 040/50 
>doesn't. (as far as I've heard).
>
>I am not trying to start a war, 'cus I too have a 486/33dx.
>
>Chris.
>
>< SIG on Summer Holidays!! >

I just looked at the BYTE mag.  Yep, its a Moto(BIAS?) ad of the Quadra 950/900
comparisons to a 486 running windows 3.0!  The results were something like
this 9.7, 9.3 for Quadra 950,900, and for the 486, 8.1 and 6.5 for the 486 33/50
, the bottom line is that it was windows 3.0, I wish they used a comparable
OS such as a true 32-BIT OS (eg. OS/2).  I did not neglect to say how fast the
040/50 is, and to mention something as the 040-50 would be pointless because
what machine has it (Mac? no, AMIGA? they don't even have the 040 out as
standard on their high end machine.  ATARI? no).
Here it is as I know it:  040-33 = 486-50  (From looking at other benches)
			  040-25 = 486-33
As soon as these guys stop putting windows 3.0 (not even 3.1) comparisons
up and put up a real 32-BIT OS, then their benchmarks will be meaningless
to me.  They stress on Windows 3.0 because they know its the weak point
that slows a good 32-BIT computer down (we all know this), this is a
marketing strategy to allow their comparisons to seem quite excellent to
prove their "Moto" cpu is better.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: kak1@cypress31.cray.com (Kevin Kramer)
Subject: Help with mouse and links 386
Originator: kak1@cypress31
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:37:16 CDT


I just installed links386 and it works great, but it locks up
occasionally and it seems to be the fault of the mouse driver.
I am using the microsoft driver (ver 8.9 I think) that came 
with windows 3.1.  What is the latest version of the microsoft
mouse driver? and where can I get it.

Thanks,
Kevin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: wes@cs.UAlberta.CA (Wes A. Tutak)
Subject: Maxtor 7213A Hard Drive
Organization: University of Alberta
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:31:53 GMT

I have found myself in need of a bigger hard drive and I am considering the
Maxtor 7213A IDE Drive (213 MB, 15ms). I've noticed that several dealers
in this month's Computer Shopper Magazine are offering it at a discounted
price ($459 at DC Computers). Also the London Drugs Computer Department here
in Edmonton has it on sale. I'm curious why Maxtor is slashing the price
on this particular drive. Is there something unreliable about it??

Does anyone have any experience, good or bad with this particular drive??

BTW, I have a 386-25 clone, and I intend to run the new drive with my old
40 MB IDE, and both floppy drives.

Thanks, in advance, for your time.
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