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From: rajiv@dvorak.amd.com (Rajiv Malhotra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: NEWS FLASH - Azhar captain
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:17:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: dvorak.1992Sep30.201710.15289
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <00961638.C8199DA0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>
>I wonder who Azhar was referring to when he said he was not too happy with the
>youngsters. Because, youngsters/newcomers then were Srinath, Banerjee, Kambli,
>Sachin, Amre, Jadeja. Am I missing some names? Anyway, of the above, Srinath
>performed quite well, so did Amre and Jadeja in the limited chances they got.
>

I don't think Srinath performed well. On a fast wicket in five test
matches he could take only ~10 wickets. As you later mention in your
posting he is lacking in temperament.

>
>
>Knowing Vishy, I would say that he knows every aspiring player's abilities and
>weaknesses in and out. That's not to condone the board's action in appointing a
>man who has witnessed any of the "selection" games , the Chairman of the
>selection committee. And I might be exaggerating Vishy's knowledge of "all the 
>players". :--) :--) 
>
>It is mainly the zonal representatives who come in witha bunch of names from
>their respective zones, and they are all voted on, with the chairman having the
>decisive vote in case of a dead-lock. So, understandably, there will be a lot
>of lobbying and politicking going on right this minute. Vishy may be too
>incorruptible to fall into these traps. He might just smile, say "balls to you"
>and walk out of the meeting if his arm is twisted. 
>

I really hope you are right about Vishy. From what I've heard about him
( none of it first hand ) he is an easy going likeable sort of guy.
Not the stuff you want the chairman of the selection board to be. I 
just hope that he cares enough about the games to ward off any
parochial interests and pick the best team he can.

>Somehow Wadekar does not inspire a helluva lot of confidence.............. 
>But, only time can tell, eh?

Wadekar really does not inspire a lot of confidence.  For a few
series, as long as he was winning, everything was okay. When
things were not going so well, he quit. In the past
Azhar has not been able to discipline the team. A strong
personality for a manger would have complemented Azhar's very well.

>
>
>-Murali


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From: psahay@eve.wright.edu (Prashant Sahay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: INDIAN CRICKET TEAM FOR SA/ZIM TOUR.
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:09:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wright State University


Here is the Indian Cricket team for the SA and Zimbabwe tour:

1. M. Azaharuddin (Capt.)
2. Ravi Shastri
3. W. V. Raman
4. Ajajy Jadeja
5. S. Manj'kar
6. S. Tend'kar
7. Praveen Amre
8. Kiran More (WK)
9. Kapil Dev
10. Manoj Prab'kar
11. J. Srinath
12. S. Banerjee
13. Chetan Sharma
14. V. Raju
15. A. Kumble
16. Vijay Yadav


Good luck to M. Azaharuddin & company......


-Prashant N. Sahay
 Email: psahay@eve.wright.edu
 Dial: (513)426-4916
From: raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: "Pakistan" Champion again
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:33:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: julian.1992Oct6.133345.1112
Organization: DA&MRL, Engineering, UWO, London Ont. CA

In article <1992Oct5.231403.1522@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU>, kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.005209.3651@massey.ac.nz> A.Qadir@massey.ac.nz (A. Qadir) writes:
|> >
|> >Pakistan beat India in Hong Kong six a side "Final"
|> >Wendies beat New Zealand for third position match.
|> >
|> >So,   P A K I S T A N prove its power again.
|> >
|> >
|> >Pakistan Zindabad
|> >
|> >Altaf Qadir
|> 
|> What a conclusion !!!!!
|> 
|> Pakistan did win the World Cup 1991. The world champs in one day
|> cricket were indeed crushed by England in their 5 one day encounters.
|> The world champs were indeed defeated by India, West Indies and
|> South Africa and were very lucky to draw the match against England
|> after being bowled out for 74, in the world cup 1991 before winning
|> it.
|> 
|> Sixes tournament is something different where one cannot judge a
|> team. 


Right Said!

S.R.Raza.
|> 
|> Cheers,
|> 
|> Ramkumar 
|>  
|> -- 
|> --------------------------------------------------------
|>    V.R.KUMAR, Knowledge-Based Systems Program
|>    CSIRO Division of Information Technology                         
|>    6 Giffnock Avenue, North Ryde, NSW 2113, Australia
From: v079rbu4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sanjay Kohli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pakistan Vs Rest Of The World X1
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep28.233530.21392@unislc.uucp>, ramana@unislc.uucp (Ramana Ramachandran) writes...
>Sanjay Kohli (v079rbu4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
>: Hi,
>: 
>: 	Rest Of The World X1 won by 6 Wickets (321 in 37 overs).  I really 
>: enjoyed watching Lara and Tendulkar beat the hell out of Pakistani Bowlers. 
>: Most of the Bowlers bowled with Short RunUp except WAQUAR YOUNIS(so called 
>: Worlds Fastest Bowler); Tendulkar hit 3 Sixes on WAQUAR YOUNIS bowling; 
>: 2 of the were Consecutive Balls and 1 was right after the drinks break 
>: which was a hook on WAQUAR'S Bouncer.  When Tendulkar was hitting Pakistani 
>: bowlers all over the ground it became India Vs Pakistan (instead of rest of 
>: the world) and crowd went wild. 
> 
>	Take it easy buddy.Its obvious that its an exhibition match.Its
>	bound to be a high scoring match and the win or loss proves nothing.
>	Its probably to keep guys like you happy 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    What you mean you chicken don't open your f***** mouth unless you know 
the realty. The way most of the Paki were acting there it made it kind of 
real match.

Cheers
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:52:14 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: INDIAN TEAM to SA/ZIMBABWE
 <1992Oct2.065829.28990@samba.oit.unc.edu>

In article <1992Oct2.065829.28990@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
Sanjay.Naik@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Sanjay Naik) says:
>
>        Didn't he do well against the Windies too? I thought it was
>against the Windies that Raman got 97 odd. I was hoping that we'd get two
>
raman scored 81 on his test debut vs the WI. he also got a 95 in an ODI vs the
WI during the same tour. i think it was prabhakar who got a 97(?) vs NZ. i'm
not sure about raman, however.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Irani Update - Oct 1st.
Date: 1 Oct 1992 15:54:00 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <1992Oct1.151419.19597@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:
>In article 15FB2940@vms.csd.mu.edu,  9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer) writes:
>>Hi folks:
>>
>>  All his wickets were caught by V. Kambli.
>Isn't this a record of some kind, I wonder. 
>I suspect Kambli was fielding at forward short leg and 
>Kumble was bowling top spinners? Can anybody confirm both these 
>conjectures? 

>---
>	--SAN
>

SAN, even without the facts at my fingertips, I can safely say that you are
right. I mean, you yourself being/having been a leg-spinner of no mean repute,
your conjectures are as good as facts in my book. Kumble does bowl top-spinners
most of the time, and Kambli does field close-in, in this case presumably at
forward-short-leg. As for Neeran's question whether it rained between second
and thrid days, I really do not know. We will have to wait for the next
"detailed" report from Srini(yeah, sure!) or anyone who might get hold of a
news report. 

The fact is, our man Srini in Bombay is not as eloquent as our man -- and
Srini's buddy -- Sadiq[The Chicago Chief] Yusuf, and consequently all his mails
are no more than the bare necessities. :--(  Sadiq, you should have shown some
of your(and mine, too) posts on rsc to Srini when you had been home, so that he
would have known that it is okay to post looooong notes on RSC. 

-Murali
From: agrden@lure.latrobe.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Bill O'Reilly dead
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:08:42 GMT
Organization: VAX Cluster, Computer Centre, La Trobe University

I just saw a news report on the TV       The great leggie   Bill O'Reilly is
dead    at 86     Bradman rated him the _best_ bowler of any type he ever
faced.



A sad day for cricket and for spinning!



Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf)
Subject: Re: Venkatesh Prasad
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:02:21 GMT

	First of all, the Rajesh Chauhan question (actually, I've seen it
spelt as Chouhan). He's a spinner from Central Zone. He's an offie I think
( I always get confused between him and Pritam Gandhe, also from Central. I
think Gandhe is the left armer). Not a bad bat either, got runs v/s Bombay
in the Ranjis couple of years ago ( a hundred). Anyway, Chouhan came into
contention on taking 6 against West in the Duleeps in the first inning -
ran thru the side a bit. It was a spinners paradise tho, so I'd like to see
a few  of his performances this season before we toss him into the national
side. 
	Now, Venkatesh Prasad. From the Sportstar dated Sept 19th. 
	Bapu Krishnarao Venkatesh Prasad. Didn't take up cricket seriously
until 4 years ago, only played tennis ball cricket till then ( at the ITI
colony in Madras(?) ) . Then, was spotted and began his career representing
Dooravani Cricketers (Bangalore)in 1988. Got into the Vijaya College team ,
took 6 in a game and got the attention of the State selectors -till then he
didnt know about Under 19 teams ! 
	Then, joined Syndicate Bank. AV Jayaprakash , former Karnatak
player, introduced him to MRF Foundation, he changed his action from open
chested to side on , lost speed but gained control, and some more
outswinfg.
	Ranji debut in 1990 v/s Kerala at Tellicherry, "not performed any
miracles yet". In the 1990-91 season, took 9 wickets from 3 matches, and in
the next season took 6 from 5. Came into the limelight in the Duleep last
season , taking 6 and 2 v/s Central, and 3 v/s North. So, gained many
admirers due to his Duleep peerformance, but hasn't been too successful in
the domestic games yet, primarily because most of the games are played on
docile tracks. 
	( My additions - Don't remember a whole lot from the Duleeps, but
was OK, a good partner for Srinath. Took like 2 or 3 wickets in the first
inning v/s North, took 1 and Srinath took 2 in the spell against North in
the  evening that reduced them to 9 for 3 in the 2nd inning. But then they
recovered the next day from 150/7 to 350+ for 9, with Kaypee, Yadav and
Maninder scoring heavily. Prasad took at best 2 wickets in the 2nd inning.
But both Srinath and Prasad supposedly bowled pretty well. Don't know
anything about the Deodhars, tho South got only one game, semi v/s North.
That was a terrible track, so may not be a good place to judge - South was
75 all out and North got home with 2 wickets to spare ). 

			Sadiq [ "details R Us" ] Yusuf
From: prasad@cpdw.enet.dec.com (R Bharani Prasad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: INDIAN TEAM to SA/ZIMBABWE
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:25:25 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <92276.115214SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>, Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>In article <1992Oct2.065829.28990@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
>Sanjay.Naik@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Sanjay Naik) says:
>>
>>        Didn't he do well against the Windies too? I thought it was
>>against the Windies that Raman got 97 odd. I was hoping that we'd get two
>>
>raman scored 81 on his test debut vs the WI. he also got a 95 in an ODI vs the
>WI during the same tour. i think it was prabhakar who got a 97(?) vs NZ. i'm
>not sure about raman, however.

Raman has 3 fifty plus knocks in the 5 tests he played. Scored 84 in the 2nd
innings of the 4th test against WI (1988 - played just that test). Scored 96 
in the 2nd innings of the 1st test and 69 in the 2nd innings of the 3rd Test
in NZ (1990 - played 3 tests). His other Test was against NZ (Hadlee) in B'lore.

/Bharani
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Worst English XI sice 1970
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:41:41 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: eco.economics.adelaide.edu.au

In article <1992Oct1.101255.16003@st-andrews.ac.uk>, rasf@st-andrews.ac.uk (Russell Anthony Stewart Fiedler) writes:

>>> After reading the teams for Australia and India here's (IMHO) the worst
>>> England XI since 1970.
>>> 
>>> 2. Wayne Larkins (Northants)
>>> 
>>> Shown to be completely out of his depth in the 1979 world cup, 
>>> played in a few tests without much success.
> 
> Easily the most mystifying selection of the 90-91 tour to Australia. He had
> never shown anything of great substance at Test level yet was picked at an 
> age when most players are considering retirement.

It has been said that the only REAL reason why Larkins toured Australia was
because of Gooch. Apparently Gooch INSISTED that Larkins be included in the
touring party, as he appears to be a favourite opening opening partner of
Gooch's.

In Larkins defence though, he does have a reasonably good county record.














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From: vijays@ecs.comm.mot.com (Vijay Surti)
Subject: South Africa's preprations for international cricket
Organization: Motorola Inc., SACS Div., Schaumburg, IL. USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:32:28 GMT


Now that India is about to go to SA, I am interested in knowing how
SA is prepraring for this series. Their recent comeback to international
cricket (getting into semi's in last WC) was certainly a great 
achievement for them. As most of you probably know Mike Procter was their
coach during WC. Is he still coaching them? I want to know what Barry
Richards is doing now? I am sure he must be providing some training to their
youngsters if he is there.  There must be other cricket Stalwarts in SA who    
are playing active role in training their new team. If anybody knows about
it please inform us. Do they  still play for Currie Cup or any sort of domestic cricket in SA?  
Any ideas on who will be in their team for this upcoming series?
Any comment on their pitches, playing conditions, cricket history etc.
I have read few articles about SA's  cricket history and certainly would like
to know more about it, particulary when they were considered as a dominant of cricket.


Thanks in advance for any inputs.

Vijay

P.S. -I have been in U.S. for over 5 years but still love this game as I used too back
in India. We do play cricket here but not that much (only 4 to 5 times a year).
I miss watching and playing (not enough of both) this game.






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From: rky0742@hertz.njit.edu (J a M m B a Z z)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: A Query [Ind vs. SA]
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:22:44 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: rky0742@hertz.njit.edu

Hello world,

Does any kind soul post or mail the stats of Vijay Yadav and
Banergee?

Thanks. 

-raju.

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From: raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Re: Pakistan vs Rest of The World
Organization: DA&MRL, Engineering, UWO, London Ont. CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:38:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.223504.27576@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:
|> In article 26075@julian.uwo.ca,  raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed) writes:
|> >To make it short cricket organisers in NA are basically cricket illetrate(IMHO offcourse)
|> >what we need is someone like Asif Iqbal.
|> >
|> >Any opinions?
|> >
|> >S.R.Raza
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> I am not sure what you mean.  Most of the fans who go to the exhibition matches 
|> in NA are from test playing countries.  The same is true for Sharjah. The majority 
|> of people who show up at a game in Sharjah are from India, Pak, SL and Bangladesh, 
|> i.e., the immigrant population. So I am not sure that the crowd in NA is that much
|> more cricket illiterate than the one in Sharjah.

I mean the organisers not the fans.  The main difference b/w crowd of sharjah and
NA is that huge population of cerribean islands is also living in NA, which is absent
in Sharjah. In Sharjah the only crowd pulling/ boiling temp match is b/w pak and India.
Here we can have such a match b/w Pak/Ind/WI. 
|> 
|> As for Asif Iqbal, what NA really needs is a Sheikh Bukhatur. Playing cricket at 
|> Downing Stadium or the Sky Dome makes it a huge farce. Basically Sheikh Bukhatur 
|> spent the money on building a good stadium. He then paid handsomely to get good teams to come and make the matches competitive. The whole thing went for a loss for some time and 
|> I am not sure it still turns out a profit. But it has become a social event in the 
|> life of Dubai. 

Sheikh Bukhatir was there before also, and there must be many sports promotors
around here too. All needed is some one who can show them that there is a good 
market.

|> 
|> A good stadium in NY, a few years of nourishment and money, and we may have a 
|> viable OD tournament on our hands. 
|> 
|> The organisers in NY are really not to blame for Downing Stadium. Getting Shea or some 
|> other such place is just too damn expensive. I spoke to the organisers and there is 
|> simply no way they can afford the sums involved. 

Agree! but even these charity matches should be b/w two countries rather than rest of the
world and some other team, cricket crowd is different then American all star games crowd.
In cricket matches like these just does'nt appeal public.  See first year they got
40+ thousand people in sky dome, now the numbers are reduced to 20+ and that too
b/c of the publicity that pak was playing as wc champion.

S.R.Raza.

|> 
|> 
|> 	--SAN
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From: prasad@cpdw.enet.dec.com (R Bharani Prasad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Test 11 to SA and ODI 11 too (Looooong !)
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:42:31 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <karnik.718146038@giga>, karnik@giga.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes...
>In <1992Oct3.015232.21040@news.acns.nwu.edu> sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf) writes:
> 

>>	I agree here. Jadeja is unlikely to make it ahead of Raman to the
>>test team.
> 
>	That's sad, because IMHO, he's the better batsman, period.
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
        How do U say? Please support Ur argument.


[stuff deleted]

>>>Wicket Keeper: More
> 
>	Sack him!
        ^^^^^^^^

        No, not him, please. Though his keeping abilities are on the decline
his gutsy batting has always come in handy, in the Tests. And, lets give Yadav
some time to mature. 

> 
> 
>	Coming to the ODIs.....
> 
>>	Now, here I have very different views. In my book, Manjrekar has
>>waay too much class to be dropped from the Indian team in anything ( tho I
>>too dislike  seeing a purist like  him slogging ). The #3 spot in the OD's
> 
>	Perfectly true. You shouldn't even dream of dropping him! No-one in 
>this team can hold one end like he can (and still score a few, unlike RJS:-)
>Let him play at #4 and SRT at #5.
> 

[stuff deleted]

  If Ravi is going to play at No.6 / No.7 then having Sanjay at No.3 makes
sense. We can't afford to hv both at the top. And Ravi coming down the order,
is a slogger. But, I'm wary about opening with Ajay and Raman. Real, tough
decision.  

> 
>>	BTW, the above team is if you want to go with 5 specialist bowlers.
>>I doubt they'll do that, so maybe an extra bat will make the team. But bat
> 
>	Me too. That's almost certain to happen.
> 
>>wickets, then of course things change. And then you have 4 specialist
>>bowlers, and Shastri,Jadeja and Tendulkar for the 5th, and to help out if
>>someone has trouble on the day. That at least gives Azhar some options,
> 
>	As a matter of fact, it may not be too much to expect these three to
>share 20 overs between them. If Raman is in the team, he might also chip in
                                 ^^^^^                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Boy, are U kidding. Even Raman will have only vague memories of 'Raman the
bowler'. But, when Aamir Sohail can, why not Raman [for he started off as a
bowler]. Ajay can, in fact, go thru his 10 overs. And being a better fielder
he books his place [in the one dayers] ahead of Raman. 

  Choosing between Kumble and Raju, for the one-dayers, is also a tough 
decision.

/Bharani
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From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Re: An open letter to Gerd Runstedt
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:00:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.182048.11211@unixg.ubc.ca> banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji) writes:
>		An open letter to Gerd Runstedt
>Meine liebe General,
>  Sind Sie aus Deutschland? Es gibt kein Cricket dort. Wo spielen Sie Cricket?

Hallo, Ajai!

Klar bin ich aus Deutschland! Was dachtest Du? 
Natuerlich wird Cricket in Deutschland gespielt. 
Jeder Hinterhof-Cricketspieler hier (so, wie ich
zum Beispiel) ist besser als der Rest der Welt.
1994 wird Deutschland Weltmeister (meine Hinter-
hofmannschaft ist damit gemeint) !

Viele Gruesse von

Mahesh.
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:03:09 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Best england XI since 1970

In article <1992Oct1.014240.20061@eng.ufl.edu>, yelton@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (John
M. Yelton) says:
>
>I like Pringle but in an all-star team? He has never been sure of his
                          ^^^^^^^^
>place for England.
>
please, let's leave this term to american sports. i prefer to say 1st XI. :-)


Stay cool,
The Thinker

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