From: z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Urge the FTC to investigate MSOFT! Was: (NT, WHY?)
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:06:14 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Sep30.230058.13520@msi.com>, bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras) writes:
> Brian Sturgill (brian%jaguar.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu) wrote:
> : You're telling me that it does not matter to the end user how buggy
> : the product is?  OS/2 2.0's current design is a conglomeration
> : of OS/2 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, and 1.3 code with rewrites of significant
> : portions glued together under incredible time pressure.
> : This is not a design, it's a hack.
> : Every time you add a new feature to a hack, you introduce new and glorious
> : bugs... I hope you enjoy CSD installation.
> 
> Where did you get the information was a "conglomeration of OS/2 1.0, 1.1,
> 1.2, and 1.3 code with rewrites of significant portions glued together" ?
> According to _The Design of OS/2_ OS/2 2.0 was a redesign.  Any OS/2 1.x
> code used was either for drivers or compatibility code.
> 

Well Since Gordon Letwin is Back, Let's ask him for an objective opinion.

So, Gordon, Was OS/2 2.0 a HACKED & PATCHED OS, or is it a re-design?
Also, If you have read Deitel & Kogan's Book "Design Of OS/2 2.0"
what is your opinion? I am sure you would know Mike Kogan pretty well
judging by you involvement in the original design of OS/2.

No Flame intened

Your work on HPFS is greatly appreciated, I really do like OS/2 much better
than windows. I was a Die-Hard Windows Fan until OS/2 2.0 Late beta, when I
realized that for what I do, OS/2 is better than windows. The PIF's are really
annoying. To date I have been able to run ALL of my DOS apps, Multi-Tasking
in OS/2 is much better that Windows 3.0 was, I can't comment on 3.1 because
after using OS/2 2.0 I didn't want it.

while( hwndFlame()==TRUE )
	{
	I purchased Word for Windows 1.0, and got the Bug Fix soon after,
	but there remained the Bug of Cutting large graphics and pasting them
	into WFW. Well after a dozen of calls to tech support, they kept
	insisting that they had not heard of such a bug, I began to think it
	was my fault. I read that Manual from cover to cover, and IT WAS A BUG
	and was reproducable on other systems as well!!!!!!
	Well when WFW 2.0 came out they wanted another $129!!!!! hey apart
	from the Graphics BUG I was Happy with Version 1. So I called Support
	to ask about the Large Graphics BUG in version 1. They said it is no
	longer supported!!!!! Now That's Service! (NOT!) You have to upgrade
	for $129. So they Sold me a product that would not do what it promised
	and when I wanted it fixed, they denied it until Version 2. and said
	pay up or shut up!
	
	I also have Excel, I did upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0 beacuse of new
	features, but 3.0 does all that I need and it really is a GOOD product.
	I don't need 4.0, but It worries me that it it was buggy, they would 
	say we have a fix with different bugs for another $129!

	That is why I will Never Buy another Microsoft Product unless there
	is not a competing product! I did also upgrade MASM 5.1 to 6.0
	for OS/2 device driver work ( I know 5.1 could do it, but I also
	wanted to write 32bit Flat ASM routines for an app ).

	I can say this much for IBM, even though 2.0 is out, anyone with
	OS/2 1.3 is still being supported. How does Microsoft support 8088
	users running Windows 3.0? Hey Upgrade for $50 and buy a new machine!

	Gordon, Yes, even though you get flamed a lot. There are people who do
	respect you for your abilities. Even if you never told a lie, Just 
	because you work for Microsoft, does not mean the Microsoft maintains
	the same level of integrity.

	I am Just Plain Sick of it!!
	Now that The undocumented Windows, has bubbled to the surface again.
	I urge everyone to write the FTC urging a breakup of Microsoft if they
	are found guilty!!! This has to stop!! Look at AT&T they were prevented
	from entering the Data Service Market unless they Split-up the Long
	Distance and Local carriers. And so it must be Done with Microsoft.
	If the FTC won't do it, I will do my best by Voting with my few
	dollars.
	
	Hey write your Congressman, The President, talk to God ( for you
	MS employees, HINT: His First name isn't Bill ). Microsoft is abusing
	it's position of dominance, and now that we finally have an alternative
	to DOS/Windows. GO Team OS/2! GO IBM, and GO-AWAY Microsoft.

	} /* End while flame */

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Michael S. Kupka                  		   z_kupkams@ccsvax.sfasu.edu

Hey, OS/2 1.0 sucked, but at least its customers weren't abandoned by IBM
-me
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Michael Kupka



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