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From: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen)
Subject: Re: pkz204c.exe is out, finally ...
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:15:14 GMT

bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de writes:
>"D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com> writes:
>
>> # Due to the restrictions on the exporting of encryption technology, this
>> # program cannot be legally offered by any FTP site in the USA or Canada
>> # that can be accessed from other countries,
>> # 
>> # We'll have to wait for an "Export Version", which will hopefully be
>> # supplied by PKWare as they did for PKZ110. 
>
>>   Perhaps PKWare should subcontract the encryption code to one
>>   of the software shops in the xUSSR, Korea, Japan, India, etc.
>>   That would get them around the US restrictions.  It's what
>>   other companies (such as IBM) are doing, and the encryption
>>   algorithms are well-known everywhere.
>
>Actually, I've heard that PKWare has got an export license for their
>program. Seems that NSA considers its encryption easy enough to
>break... :-) As a side note, this means that there will be no problems
>to make it available on SImtel20...

I've ben told that PKWare did get a license or exception for PKZIP but
it still cannot be exported to Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, the
police or military of South Africa, Syria and Vietnam. 

This may mean that FTP sites in the USA and Canada will not be able
to offer the non-export version because there is a chance that persons
on the "restricted list" shown above could access the file.

Keith
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Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
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From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: SpinRite V3.0: Any Problems?
Keywords: spinrite
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:47:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO
NNTP-Posting-Host: magellan.stlouis.sgi.com

In article <1Fm2wB4w163w@connect.com> root@connect.com (Niles Mills) writes:
>Greetings!
>
>Does anyone have any experience/stories/recommendations/warnings/etc.
>regarding the new release of SpinRite, version 3.0?

The posting of this article in this newsgroup (c.a.m.d) regarding
SpinRite implies that it is available in one of the archives.  The
archives contain programs that are freeware or shareware.  Isn't
SpinRite commercially distributed?  If it is, then folks should not
expect to find it in the archives.  This is no flame whatsoever, if
SpinRite is in the archives, I stand corrected.  

Regards,
--
Larry Autry
Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com 
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From: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen)
Subject: Re: [WANTED]:  SLIP and FTP
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:14:47 GMT

beezer@cc.utah.edu (BEEZER) writes:
>I do nearly all my online activities via university dial-up.
>This includes downloading.  Our site will be offering the
>students/staff/etc dial-up SLIP access to the INTERnet.
>
>I would like to locate SLIP and FTP for MSDOS installation.
>
>Pointers?  --  SIMTEL20 appears to have neither.

Did you look in directories PD1:<MSDOS.KA9Q-TCPIP> and
PD1:<MSDOS.NCSATELNET> ?  Both have FTP, TELNET, PING, etc.
KA9Q even has NNTP (Usenet News), SMTP mail and POP mail.

If you use Windows 3.x, WNQVTNET has those features and Usenet News.

SLIP and PPP drivers are available.  See program's the doc files for
details. 

Keith
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Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
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From: vporguen@unlinfo.unl.edu (victor porguen)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: diet and slim
Date: 9 Jan 1993 06:51:17 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unlinfo.unl.edu

calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes:

>Does anyone have any experience with these two disk compression programs?
>I am hesitant to load them without some strong recommandations. How do
>they compare to commercial software like Stacker? My hard disk is hovering

Diet compares pretty well! In fact, Diet has a tremendous advantage:
it doesn't cost anything! 


>around 10M free which cramps my work. What I'm most likely to compress
>are programs such as misc utilities and my editor and compilers.

Diet will compress/decompress automatically text files, executables,
device drivers, even COMMAND.COM itself, I think... <g>.


>Thanks in advance for any comments offered.

You're absolutely welcome.
         
                                     VP

Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk (Harry Broomhall)
Subject: Re: [WANTED]: SLIP and FTP 
Distribution: world
Organization: C.I.C. Ltd
Reply-To: haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:56:10 +0000

In article <7JAN199314242413@cc.utah.edu> beezer@cc.utah.edu writes:

>
>I would like to locate SLIP and FTP for MSDOS installation.
>
>Pointers?  --  SIMTEL20 appears to have neither.
>
   One of the nicest is the KA9Q package (not an intuitively
obvious name, it is a Ham call-sign!).   I am using a version
here to connect to the Internet, in my case using PPP which
is also included.
   KA9Q is on Simtel (possibly under packet?).
   Regards,
      Harry.
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#include "silly.ascii.graphics"
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: jimbo@ee.ualberta.ca (Row Jimmy)
Subject: ?? PD/ShareWare games and stuff for children??
Keywords: games,educational,children,shareware
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:10:53 GMT

greetings all,

i am looking for games and/or educational software which is appropriate
for children aged 10 or less. is there an ftp location or an archive
which has anything like this? i have seen Broderbund's "PlayRoom" etc...
but free is better :-)

thank you,
	   jim

p.s. please e-mail, and i'll post a summary if there is sufficient interest.
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Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: pugh@skiing.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tom Pugh)
Subject: Re: Telemate 4.00 terminal emulation
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:38:13 GMT

In article <104527@netnews.upenn.edu> chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin) writes:
>In article <s_fuller.726730057@vincent2.iastate.edu> s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller) writes:
>my dismay.  While we're on the subject, can someone tell me what the correct
>code is for a backspace?  I'm getting really tired of accidently pushing the
>backspace while editing in emacs, using Telemate, and having the key send a
>ctrl-h which ends up in having the help screen pop up.  What code should I
>reprogram the key to send?
>
>Chaim R. Dworkin
>chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu


	I've found that while using Qmodem, the delete key worked
correctly as a backspace.  Unfortunately, when I went to look at the
macros, I couldn't reproduce the character for the backspace key.  
The character that was in the delete macro was the shape of a home plate,
but I don't know the ASCII value or if there is such a value.

                                              J. Tom Pugh
                                        pugh@cis.ohio-state.edu

Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Subject: Re: BCLK.ZIP - Full-screen digital clock. CGA or better req.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:53:26 GMT

ameiss@ecn.purdue.edu (Alan R Meiss) writes:

>I have uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil:

>pd1:<msdos.sysutl>
>BCLK.ZIP        Full-screen digital clock. CGA or better req.
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?

Oh ... I've tested that this fine program works on all types of 
displays (including hercules) ... 

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From: kko@fraser.sfu.ca (Samuel Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: BAM351.ZIP - Bank Account Manager v3.51: Family finance mgr
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:25:19 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

msingh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Manu) writes:

>You will find BAM the easiest bank management program available!

Really? ... I don't think so ...

Also, from the order.doc file in bam351.zip ...

     Qty.    Description                                   Each     Total


     ____    Bank Account Manager version 3.51        US $ 35.00   ________
             (Comes with on disk manual and on a
              5.25" diskette)

        U.S. orders add $5 shipping & handling          Shipping   ________
        (Foreign orders add $10 shipping)

That means the minimum registration fee is US $40 ... Is that too much? ...
given that, with 40 (or fewer) bucks, one can get a copy of Quicken 6.0 - the
best personal finance software ... My point is a shareware author should
charge a considerably lower registration fee than the price of any similar
product in the commerical market ...



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Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen)
Subject: Re: Delay to Mirror Sites
Organization: The SIMTEL20 Archives
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:30:53 GMT

gould@waterloo.hp.com (Dan Gould) writes:
>Since the newsgroup comp.archives.msdos began I have observed that announced
>software does not appear right away at the mirror sites. In particular
>the time from SIMTEL20 toget WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU seems to be several days.
>
>Does anyone know how long I should wait before attempting to FTP an archive
>from a mirror site?

OAK.Oakland.Edu is the most up-to-date mirror because I maintain it,
in addition to my duties at SIMTEL20.  I run OAK's mirror program
whenever new files are added at SIMTEL20.

When you see a SIMTEL20 upload announcement in newsgroup
comp.archives.msdos.announce, the file is already on OAK.

Keith
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Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@Vela.ACS.Oakland.Edu
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From: lebrun@ll.mit.edu (Steven F. LeBrun)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: DPMI
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:55:11 GMT
	<1993Jan10.220906.14954@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
	<1993Jan11.123715.10856@cs.tcd.ie> <C0p9DK.HME@SSD.intel.com>
	<mcdonald.40@aries.scs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Lexington, MA


Where can someone get a copy of DPMI specifications?
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From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: archie updates
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:42:27 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <1993Jan4.184635.24169@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans) writes:
>How long does it take for the archie machines to be updated once new files
>have been installed on the ftp machines? Just wantin' to know.

I don't know, but when I made some sporadic testing almost a year
ago, the results were then rather discouraging.  The lags tended to
be from 2-5 weeks, and most importantly some files did not show up
at all at many databases where they should have been.  Perhaps
things have changed since then (I hope so), but at least back then
archie's usefulness in pinpointing recent versions was poor.  But it
is a very useful start when you are looking for something
established, and know fairly accurately the stem of the filename. 

Note that I am not castigating archie or rooting for our own systems
(I have no reason for that).  But my advice for looking for a
program is to start by looking at the following filelists
(especially the first two) and augmenting the results with a archie
search. 

wsmr-simtel20.army.mil: PD1:<MSDOS.FILEDOCS>SIMLIST.ZIP
garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEX.ZIP

garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/INDEXTS.ZIP
garbo.uwasa.fi:/unix/INDEX.ZIP
garbo.uwasa.fi:/win3/INDEX
garbo.uwasa.fi:/win31/INDEX
garbo.uwasa.fi:/ql/QLINDEX

You might also wish to look at the BBS filelists we have.  Not to
get the files from those BBSes, but just to additionally see if the
kind of programs are in existence that you are looking for, and did
not find on SIMTEL20 or Garbo lists.  At garbo those additional
(oldish) lists are in the /pc/bbs directory. 

   All the best, Timo

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
From: kip@via.kz.merit.edu (Kip DeGraaf)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Shareware Graphic Thumbnail Display
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:35:41 -0600
Organization: Not yet, but soon, honest.
Reply-To: akcs.kip@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: thumbnail graphic

I use Corel Draw at work, and really like the Mosiac program, but is
there something a little less expensive (Like shareware, under $100)
that will do the same job of thumbnailing graphic images?

I'd really like to be able to browse my clip art at home with a good
tool.
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: cei381@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jarre's laser harp)
Subject: Re: Boot from B: ??
Summary: Booting problems.
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:02:25 GMT

Just swap the disk drive cables round.  Easy...
From: jkokko@lk-hp-15.hut.fi (Jari Kokko)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: your mail (subject line suggestion)
Date: 9 Jan 1993 12:58:32 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: lk-hp-15.hut.fi

Thank you Timo for a great sevice you are doing! Keep up the good work.

May I make a small suggestion?

Could you please be a bit more specific with these subject lines?
"Re: your mail" isn't very informative ;)

Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
From: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott)
Subject: Re: pkz204c.exe is available 
Distribution: world
Organization: None
Reply-To: chris@chrism.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:55:34 +0000

In article <rdippold.726458908@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com writes:

>hui@apaturia.trl.OZ.AU (Alvaro Hui) writes:
>>I find that it will CRASH the system if you do the zipping under
>>windows........ Can anyone verify??
>
>Numerous people have reported crashes running it under Windows.  Try
>disabling DPMI ("-)" on the command line) and see if that works.
>-- 

I had problems too.  I disabled DPMI and have been fine since.
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From: chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: Telemate 4.00 terminal emulation
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:24:14 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <s_fuller.726730057@vincent2.iastate.edu> s_fuller@iastate.edu (Steve Fuller) writes:
>Enhanced vt102 emulation??? I've never been impressed by
>Telemate's vt102 emulation... checking this most recent version I
>see that it's not what I'd consider correct yet....
>

I have to agree with that.  Telemate has always been weak at vt102, much to
my dismay.  While we're on the subject, can someone tell me what the correct
code is for a backspace?  I'm getting really tired of accidently pushing the
backspace while editing in emacs, using Telemate, and having the key send a
ctrl-h which ends up in having the help screen pop up.  What code should I
reprogram the key to send?

Thanks




Chaim R. Dworkin
chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: *.*.lha files on unix machines
From: <RB0UJR@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:00:56 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

I am a DOS user, but have access to a UNIX based machine so I can download
*.*.z files, decompress and ftp to my pc. I have run across some *.*.lha
files at some ftp sites.  Could someone please tell me how to decompress
*.*.lha files.
From: tusk@daimi.aau.dk (Martin M|ller Pedersen)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: diet and slim
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:01:11 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

calvert@QueensU.CA (John Calvert) writes:

>Does anyone have any experience with these two disk compression programs?
>I am hesitant to load them without some strong recommandations. How do
>they compare to commercial software like Stacker? My hard disk is hovering
>around 10M free which cramps my work. What I'm most likely to compress
>are programs such as misc utilities and my editor and compilers.

>Thanks in advance for any comments offered.

>-- 
>John Calvert

>calvert@mast.queensu.ca

FYI:

There is a discussion on diet1.44 in the newsgroup comp.compression.

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From: Brian.Milner@brunel.ac.uk (Brian D Milner)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Microsoft Mouse Driver Switches : Late Result! - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Date: 8 Jan 93 08:40:50 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK


		Re: Microsoft Mouse v8.20 Driver Switches
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	This interesting post arrived from Oz today. I have yet to
check it out - but I think it's what I've been looking for.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry about the tardiness of this reply. The information I have is
> as follows.
> 
> Setting      Default       Values        Switches
> Mouse Type     none        Serial 1,2      /Cn
>                            PS2             /Z
>                            Inport 1,2      /In
>                            Bus             /B
> 
> Language      English      English         /L
>                            German          /LD
>                            Spanish         /LE
>                            French          /LF
>                            Italian         /LI
>                            Dutch           /LNL
>                            Portuguese      /LP
>                            Swedish         /LS
>                            Finnish         /LSF
> 
> Interrupt Rate    1        0,1,2,3,4       /Rn
> 
> Sensitivity
>  Horizontal      50        5-100           /Hn
>  Vertical        50        5-100           /Vn
>  Hor & Ver       50        5-100           /Sn
> 
> Acceleration      2        1,2,3,4         /Pn
> 
> Cursor Display
>  Display Delay    0        0-10            /Nn
>  Force Default  off        on              /M1
>                            off             /M
> 
> Hardware Cursor
> Support         off        on/off          /Y
> 
> Rotation Angle    0        0-359           /Or  (ballpoint mouse only)
> 
> Button Selection
>  Primary          1        1,2,3,4         /KPnSm
>  Secondary        3        1,2,3,4         /KPnSm
>  Clicklock       on        on              /KC  (ballpoint mouse only)
>                            off             /K
 
	Thanks, Clive; and once again thanks to everyone who replied
to my query.

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From: carrier@IRO.UMontreal.CA (SilverCloak)
Newsgroups: comp.archives.msdos.d
Subject: Re: (administrative) Re: HELP! 2ND HARD DRIVE?????
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:35:30 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

>In article <BzxDxp.EE4@NCoast.ORG> brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown) writes:
>>You are preaching to the converted, Timo, and you're annoying the heck
>>out of us.  But the sinners either left the church long ago or haven't

I for one, being a relative neophyte to UseNet, very much appreciate the
advice/help and guidance offered bye Prof. Salmi. I would be very
upset to see comments like these cause Timo to cease providing aid
to readers in general.

A couple of points for Stan;
a) put Timo Salmi and ts@ into your KillFile (of course then you will miss 
most of the interesting stuff...)
b) "the heck out of us" why not say 'out of me' I know I for one am not annoyed
with Timo's guidance, and I would be willing to bet the large majority of users
aren't either.

Just my .07 (inflation)

SilverC.

btw
Timo, Keep up the good work!
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