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From: sl8nl@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:45:30 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>> I have seen people talk about The GUS and SBOS not supporting the SBPRo..
> But you are all wrong wrong wrong wrong.. See The SBPro.. is a big Sham..
> Amnd You can ask Gravis for this...

You gotta watch it.  I program for them both.  The SBPro's digital channels are
stereo, essentially one going left and one going right...always.  The SBPro's
FM channels ARE stereo, 11 channels going left, 11 going right.


>  But See the SBPro DOES NOT have true stereo.. Alls it is is 1 sound blaster
> coming out each speaker.. (2 Monos).... This is true. And 
> In games That support SB Pro.. You will notice that Their is no SBpro
> Sound file... It is the same as the Sb Sound File... Alls it does is 
> supposedly turn it into stereo...

There is an SBPro sound file for MOST games now, UNLESS they only support SB. 
Believe me, there is a big difference in programming stereo and mono for these
cards.

>  Since the Ultrasound IS STereo.. When you chose Normal SB.. You ARE gettingg
> SBpro Support... Coming out in Semi Stereo.,. Its all A Sham put on by
> Creative labs,, And Not a whole lot of people know abou tit...
>  but Gravis does.. and Sbos v1.1, and 1.22 DOES support the SBpro..
> But To do it.. You just chose SB in any game....
> 

C'mon, guy, get your facts straight.  Number one, if Gravis is telling you this
bull then we probably ought to have a talk with the person doing so.  The SBPro
comes out in true, real-life, left-right stereo.  That's always what the word
STEREO has meant to me.  SBOS does support the Soundblaster Pro, but only in
stereo.

And YES, I do have a Gravis, TWO in fact !

Joshua Jensen
Proud owner of my SBPro and (I lied) the two that should be here Tuesday.
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 21:50:49 EST
From: Roger S. Dastick <RSDASTIC@MTUS5.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject:    Re: GUS problems

No, I am not running Star Control ][ after SBOS, I realize its native. Makes
a big difference in speed. BTW, forgot to mention this before, I'm having some
one else post for me. My correct address is:

  jjlucsy@major.cs.mtu.edu                  (Joel Lucsy)

Another BTW, I've tried the card on another system, it works there. So, what
could be interferring with it? Any suggestions? Thanks.
From: bruceba@pogo.wv.tek.com (Bruce Baur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Notebook with soundcard ?
Keywords: sound blaster pro
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:09:33 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc. Wilsonville

Sound blaster pro probem.  I have unreliable boot-up of my Packard Bell 
386-25 with the SB pro card installed.  After many resets, it will boot-up
and run just fine, what a pain.  Normaly the SVGA video is all messed up
just as things would be apperaring in screen (inverted video, offset video,
horizontal rate beyound monitor capabiliuty, etc...).  All the jumpers in
the world have no affect on the problem, at least those on the card.

Can anyone help on this problem???  Creative Labs and Packard Bell do not
seem to be aware of any compatability problems.

PS. This is the second card I've tried.

Please reply via my e-mail please.

Thanks,  Bruce Baur
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From: swkgohw@nuscc.nus.sg (Sir Launcelot Du Lac)
Subject: Re: SBPro+CD ROM??
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:38:18 GMT

Well met Bob,

: 	Has anyone hooked up an external CD ROM to the Soundblaster Pro?

I have the NEC CDR-74 drive (internal) and the SB16.

: The manual says that only Mashushita (sp) drives are compatible with the
: direct connnection to the SBPro.  Are these good drives with fast access

Nay, the NEC drive has 280 ms access time compared to the Panasonic drive
(I think 'tis 350 ms) provided by Creative.  The data transfer rate for
the former is also twice that of the latter.

: times?  If I buy another CD ROM drive with a separate controller card will
: there likely be any incompatibility problems with the SBPro?  I'd greatly
: appreciate hearing about anyone else's experience with such a setup, thanks.
:
Nay, no problems, except that thou wilt now have two sound sources,
instead of one coming only from the sound card.  If thou canst connect the
internal audio out from the CD drive to the CD-in on the SB, then the
sound coming from the CD drive will be channeled to the soundcard.  I'm
going to try and get someone to make such a wire for me this weekend.  By
the way, this is only possible for an internal CD drive.


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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:03:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.212342.1919@cs.hope.edu> turkstra@smaug.cs.hope.edu (Screwtape) writes:
>>>Definitely the GUS has 32 independently pannable voices but just
>>>because they are independently pannable doesn't make them stereo, at
>>>least IMO.
>>>
>> 
>> If the GUS has 32 independently pannable voices , which now seems to be 
>> the case, then we can place 32 voices anywhere between right and left.  
>> I think that qualifies for 32 voice stereo.
>> 
>> Phat.
>
>I hate to disagree but we must define stereo here.  Stereophonic sound
>is the "use of two or more channels to carry and reproduce the sounds
>from the directions in which they were recorded."  (Websters)  *SO* 1
>stereo channel is actually 2 channels reproduced simultaneously.  

If a single voice can be panned in increments between right and left, 
then I would consider that voice to be "stereo" since you can reproduce
the spatial position of an instrument that way.  If you would like,
a single, incrementally pannable voice is akin to having two channels
with independent volumes.

However, I am no longer certain whether the GUS has 32 independently
and incrementally pannable voices or just 32 voices which can be
independently placed left or right.  If the latter case is true, then
I don't consider the GUS to be 32 voice stereo.

>*THEREFORE*  The GUS is only capable of 11 stereo voices.  As fas as 
>what SBOS does, I won't touch that, I haven't listened hard enough.  But 
>if gravis says that it supports SBpro stereo, I'd believe it.  I'm 
>not flaming (at all!!)  but this is a dictionary (and functional)
>definiton of stereo. 

Correction.  The GUS is, at least, capable of 16 stereo voices if we
assume that the 32 voices can only be placed right or left, thus
requiring that we pair them to reproduce true stereo.

BTW, anybody considering implementing temporal displacements between
the left and right channels to reproduce "truer" stereo?

Phat.
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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:51:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.192134.19886@sfu.ca> mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy) writes:
>> Well, what I heard is each of 32 voice channels on GUS is
>> independently pannable. And SBOS is based on small chunks of
>> sampled wave forms and I *THINK*
> 
>Definitely the GUS has 32 independently pannable voices but just
>because they are independently pannable doesn't make them stereo, at
>least IMO.
>

If the GUS has 32 independently pannable voices , which now seems to be 
the case, then we can place 32 voices anywhere between right and left.  
I think that qualifies for 32 voice stereo.

Phat.
From: sl8nl@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Anyone get GUS to work with Amnesia Demo?
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:06:56 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <Bz9Dvo.Dz9@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v128nkga@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
> 
> 	Like the subject says, I can't seem to get the GUS to
> work with the Amnesia Demo I picked up off of wuarchive a while back.
> Every option except -o3 gives me this strange parity error, in this
> big print (not the normal text).  The -o3 option will let the
> demo run, but with no sound.
> 	Has anyone out there gotten the GUS to work with Amnesia?
> 	Thanks in advance.
> 				Later,	
> 				Henry

Dunno if Tran has plans to release another Amnesia demo with GUS support, but I
can guarantee that all future Renaissance demos will have GUS support AND if
you have more than 512k GUS DRAM, they will have 16-bit samples.  Tran and I
are working on the 386-protected mode player for native mode GUS right now.

Joshua Jensen

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From: oper7@MBOX.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Lee. shih-hao)
Subject: Re: Can you backup your system to CDs?
Organization: Dep. of EECS, National Central University, Chungli, Taiwan, R.O.C.
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:00:11 GMT

John (jasmith@admin1.memst.edu) wrote:
: CD-ROM drives can you write information to the CD-DISK?  This is true isn't it.
: I have just assumed this.  I can back up my harddrive on a CD can't I?

To buy a WORM (write only read many disc) but it costs $$$$$$...$
tony

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From: turkstra@smaug.cs.hope.edu (Screwtape)
Subject: Re: Will these RAM chips work on my GUS?
Organization: Hope College Dept of CS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:37:05 GMT

From article <1gmfkeINNjbu@aludra.usc.edu>, by joseph@aludra.usc.edu (Jeff Lawson):
> I'd like to upgrade my GUS to 1 meg of RAM just for the heck of it,
> 
>         _/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_
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>        |     |                      |
>         )    |                      |
>        |     |    TMN41256P-15      |
>        |_  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _  _|
>          \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/
> 
Ooops.  The -15 means a 150ns chip.  I *think I remember it needing 100
or 120ns chips.  In either case, those chips are too slow.  I'm not 
sure even if it's the right chip or not, but it is kinda moot.
-- 

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From: krw1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Kevin Weiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Multisound
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:16:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <Bz30uz.Dv7@chinet.chi.il.us>, roper@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Roper)
writes:
>Does anyone know of a place where I can purchase a Turtle Beach
>Multisound card at a typical PC hardware discount (say about 33%)?
>The card had a list price of $995, but has recently been reduced
>to $599.  I'd hope to pay around $400, but the only place I've found

They've cut the retail margin substantially, so don't expect more than
4 or 5 percent off list at most...
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From: kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes@AT&T/NCR)
Subject: Re: GUS publicity ....  NOT !
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:06:14 GMT

From article <1992Dec9.160612.14553@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, by (felix.cabral):
> 
> I've seen a few response against my original article. This one speaks a bit
> clearer with the comparison. Thanks. I did mention the GUS is superior but
> the important thing I keyed on was the fact that it is not currently
> supported by the same wide support the SBpro has. No question about the
> GUS being a great board. I just want those who choose a board to play games
> and for simple sound creation not to make the mistake and buy a GUS thinking
> it will have a better SB emulation than the SB itself. If you want to use
> your sound board today on the great games available now go with the SBpro.
> Thats my point. It won't sound any better than the SBpro if it could handle
> the SB emulation at all. So if you want to flame don't avoid the real issues
> I mentioned here and the original post.

While it is true that the GUS in SB emulation mode can't do a better job that
the SBPro itself, it is also true that in most computers and with most games
(not all) the GUS is just as good.  Plus the future can only get better for
the GUS and it is cheaper now.  I could not with clear conscience recommend
that a person buy the SBPro over the GUS for the reasons you have given.

Kit Kimes
AT&T Resource Link (under contract to NCR)
Naperville, IL
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From: bjornhk@dhhalden.no (BJORN HAAVARD KLEVEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Soundblaster Pro & Soundblaster Pro 2 ?
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:11:28 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <92346.132449DXR8@psuvm.psu.edu> <DXR8@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:24:49 EST
>From: <DXR8@psuvm.psu.edu>
>Subject: Re: Soundblaster Pro & Soundblaster Pro 2 ?
>In article <1992Dec11.142935.6529@mfltd.co.uk>, sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood)
>says:
>>
>>In article <1992Dec10.231208.9445@ac.dal.ca>, scoh@ac.dal.ca writes:
>>|> In article <1078@dgaust.dg.oz>, brown@dgaust.dg.oz (Fred Brown) writes:
>>|> >
>>|> > Could someone please tell me the difference between a Soundblaster Pro
>>|> > and a Soundblaster Pro 2 ?
>>|> > Thanks
>>|> > Fred
>>|>
>>|> The main difference is Sb pro V1.0 Is the origianl Crap. And Sb Pro II Is
>>Crap
>>|> Version 2.0... Nothing wqorth looking at.. Just stick with the GUS.
>>
>>Just because you own one of the other makes of sound card, doesn't mean that
>>the sound blaster is crap.  The sound quality on both makes is very good.
>>If you are the sort of person whojust because he has one make of something,
>>everything else is crap, then why don't you go and argue in the PC v AMIGA
>>wars in rec.comp.  It people like you with "Blinkers on" who keep up these
>>inane and useless arguments.
>>
>>Steve
>>--
>I totally agree.  You can sure tell some of these folks own "this card or
>that card" and everything else is CRAP.  If you like your card so much, tell
>them how good your card is, but give the rest of us a break from the CRAP.
>
>Brian

Although I do not agree to the general tone in the first response in this 
thread either, I must say the GUS does sound a lot better. The specs also 
supports this view.

However, that was not the question in the original posting. I believe the SB 
Pro 2 is the new-and-improved version of the SB Pro featuring an OPL-3 
Yamaha 20 voice stereo FM chip (which name eludes me for the moment) as well 
as a reduced size PCB. I cannot think of any other differences for the 
moment, but I'm sure some SB Pro owner can supplement this info.

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From: sn@plato.chemietechnik.uni-dortmund.de (sn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Need Kawai K1/II BankDump for SBPro
Keywords: SBPro, Kawai
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:37:25 GMT

Hi,
if you know of a Bankloader for the SBPro and the Kawai K1 II,
please leave me EMail where I can get it...
(only Share/Public Domain/Low Cost)

Sven
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:34:42 EST
From: Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS and SCII problems

Hmmm....I think I'm starting to see a pattern here with all the problems
with SCII and the GUS.

When I first installed my GUS, I used the factory default DMA 1, and I got the
"Wrong Patches played"  problem.  Then, later on, I moved the GUS to DMA 5 to
use a 16bit DMA, and the patches played fine, but after a while of playing the
game, I got the "loud blast of static out of the left speaker" problem.
Finally, I read the article that said that someone was playing SC II with the
GUS on DMA 7 and wasn't having any problems.  I went home and moved the GUS to
DMA 7, and played for 5 hours without a problem.  I did notice a click from the
speakers every time that it changed from one song to another, but the right
patches played, and there was NO static!

I'd like some feedback from everyone who is having problems with SC II.
What DMA are you set for?  What chipset do you have?  What processor?

I'll post a summary, and send a copy to Dan Nicholson, the author of SC II's
incredible music.  Maybe if this trend continues, it'll make the author's jobs
easier, and we'll get a fix that much sooner.... :-)

       Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
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From: wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman)
Subject: Re: SB16 Released at Last!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:09:59 GMT

swkgohw@nuscc.nus.sg (Sir Launcelot Du Lac) writes:


>: However, the standard GUS comes with 256k of RAM on board (exp to 1Mb)
>: for which to load the MIDI patches. This is infinitely better than having
>: a fixed set of instruments on ROM since newer patches can be recorded and
>: used on the GUS. 
>: 
>Is this really better?  I mean, art there any possibilities of clashes
>with system RAM?

>It sounds to me that the whole thing is analoguous to having TSRs that
>emulate SB, and we know what sorts of problems THAT may result it

Clashes with system RAM?  Why would there be clashes with system
RAM?  The on-board RAM has nothing to do with the computers system
RAM.

Personally, I would rather own a sound card that provides the
ability to load new sound samples rather than being stuck with the
basic sound samples that are stored in ROM.

What if we were talking about a graphics card that does bitmap
manipulations on-board.  Would you rather have the card have a
pre-selected number of bitmap images stored in ROM or would you 
rather have the ability to load custom bitmap images into the board's
RAM?

There is no analogy to the TSR emulating the SB.

Mark Wyman
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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:38:25 GMT

In article <larry.724317167@mits> larry@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Hero) writes:
>From: larry@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Hero)
>Subject: Re: Sbos!=SBPRO
>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:12:47 GMT

>markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:

>>       According to Gravis, the 32 mono voices can be either right or 
>>left.  This is not stereo.  But the 16 stereo voices can be panned right or 
>>left in _15_ different positions.  That's what they told me.

>Isn't this similar to the "stereo" SBPro has?

>If SBPro is stereo, GUS has 32 stereo voices..right?


Also, the SBPro's voices can right or left.  They cannot be panned.  Call 
this stereo if you want.
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From: esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle)
Subject: thunderboard info & drivers
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:25:11 GMT

Hi, folks!
   I am the proud new owner of a thunderboard.  I bought it second hand from
a friend of mine that was getting something newwer or upgrading his machine.
Now all I need to know is stuff like where I can find drivers for it for
windows, etc...just anything I might need a driver for.  Not that I use
windows all that much, but right now it is set for the sound blaster driver
and it seems to work pretty well.  
   Also, how good are these things in relation to the soundblaster or the
adlib cards?  If I have an application that can use the soundblaster of the
adlib, which is a better choice?

Anything helpful is much appreciated!

Ed
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From: mfrazer@scott.skidmore.edu (John Drake Not A #)
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks .au files
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:03:27 GMT

Just a note, the ones in mac format sound much better (The suns are
sampled at 8000) but are a lot more difficult to get at.
I posted just a few mins ago a semi detailed description of what I did
last year to convert them to a format usable by most anyone with an
ibm. I'll go looking and find out exactly how I did it if people are
interested.

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From: thail@seas.gwu.edu (Samuel R. Posten)
Subject: Re: SB16 Released at Last!
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:42:44 GMT


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From: lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: FAX number for DISK-Count.....
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:37:01 GMT

Someone wrote to me from Singapore asking for the fax number of
Disk-Count.  It is (908) 396-8881.
Good Luck.
patrick

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From: ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran)
Subject: Re: Can I buy a GUS????
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:06:45 GMT

In article <c60a-lj.724196182@danube.Berkeley.EDU> c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Rasputin) writes:
>
>Well, I'm gettign ready to buy a GUS, but after reading the countless posts
>about problems with OPTI chipsets, how do I find out if I have the kind of
>board that doesn't work with a GUS????

Open up your case and look for any chips marked "OPTi" on your motherboard.
If you should come across the offending four-letter word, then there is a
chance that the GUS will not like your machine.  Not all OPTi-based boards
have DMA problems, but there's no easy way of testing them.

Phat.
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