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From: stur@TIS.COM (Jeff Sturgess)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: FLETCHING JIG
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:02:37 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


> I need to purchase a fletching jig for fletching 4 inch feathers.  I
> would like to get one that does all three feathers at once.  Has
> anyone had any GOOD or BAD experiences with the ARIZONA E-Z Fletching
> Jig?

Randy,

I got the Arizona jig a few months ago and I have fletched several
dozen shafts with it.  I have not had a problem with it so far.  I
fletch 5" vanes in a right helical and they are perfect every time.  I
love the jig so far and I haven't had any bad experiences with it yet.
I have even fletched carbon shafts with the jig and it does just as
good of a job on them.

Jeff

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From: keith@clodii.columbiasc.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Blaze Orange for turkeys in PA.
Summary: Safety first!
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:19:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Aug19.071941.24185
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug17.100403.8219@doug.cae.wisc.edu> mas@icf.hrb.com (Mark A. Singer) writes:
>
>   Did you know this year in PA. you must have on 250 sq.inches of blaze
>orange to hunt the fall turkey season and 100 sq. inches of blaze orange
>while moving only to hunt the spring season. What do you all think ?


If it prevents any hunting accidents, then it probably is the way to go.
Better to lose one big gobbler rather than have one hunter injure or 
worse kill another hunter. I enjoy turkey hunting myself and wouldn't 
mind if this state followed suit with a similar requirement. 

Keith

BTW: I was driving on a GMA gravel road last Sat. near my hunt club and
     topped a hill to see about 7 or 8 red headed long beard Toms stand-
     in the middle of the road. Incredible....Wish I had my camera then.

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From: smrtstr!syspb@uu.psi.com (Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Hunting joke (may be offensive)
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:05:33 GMT
Organization: SmartStar Corp. / Signal Technolgy Inc.
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Warning: This joke may be offensive...

[Moderator's note:  I'll second that.  If you are easily offended,
don't read this post...  tjr]





One day a hunter decided to take his single-chamber shotgun out to the
forest to hunt. [Remember the single-chamber gun, it's important later
on.] In the woods, the hunter waited patiently, and, just as he started
to get bored, a huge black bear walked right through his sights. 
The hunter took aim and... [BOOM] ...he missed.

The bear was pissed off, and charged at the hunter. The hunter tried
franticly to reload. [Told you.] But he was too slow, and the bear 
knocked the gun from his hands.

"What the fuck are you doing?" asked the bear.

"I'm sorry," replied the hunter. "I'll never do it again. I promise
I'll leave my gun here and go home and rip up my hunting permit and
never come back to the woods if you'll just let me go."

The bear didn't think that it was enough, and decided some humiliation
would be appropriate as well. "I'll tell you what, I'll let you go if
you do all that AND suck my dick."

The hunter was disgusted, but had no choice. The bear forced him to
his knees and the hunter was forced to suck the slimy, salty bear dick.

When he was done [spit spit] the bear started to wander off. The 
hunter, sensing an oppurtunity, reloaded his gun. Taking aim for
the bear, he squeezed the trigger... [BOOM] ...and missed again.

The bear charged back at the hunter, who was again franticaly trying
to reload the shotgun. The bear slapped the gun from the hunters 
hands.

"What the fuck are you doing? Are you fucking stupid?"

"I'm really sorry," replied the hunter. "I don't know what came 
over me. I promise I won't do it again."

"Well," sayed the bear, "I'll let you go this time, but as punishment
this time, you'll let me fuck you. Bend over."

The bear ripped the pants off the hunter, and did him from behind with
his slimy, salty, human-spit-covered bear dick.

When the bear was done, the hunter was a wreck, and was feebly 
crawling away from the bear, his pants torn and his butt bleeding.
The bear started to wander away. The hunter, sensing another 
oppurtunity, reloaded his gun and took aim... [BOOM]... and missed
again. 

The bear charged back at the hunter, knocking the gun from his hands.
This time, the bear whistled, and four more bears approached the
clearing. When they had surrounded the hunter, the first bear spoke.

"...You didn't come here to hunt, did you?"
From: vanetten@unix.cie.rpi.edu (John S. Van Etten)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Ruger Auction Sale
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:06:36 GMT
Organization: CIE, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Robert Schultz writes:

[lots of stuff about Ruger gun auction in Canada deleted]

>Ruger M77 R, .358win Bolt action rifle.
>	- Less than 1000 of these rifles made between
>	  1975 and 1978.
>	- Shipped in 1978. New and unfired in the box.
>	-	S/N. 73-46422

[...]

>Ruger 77R .358cal. Bolt action rifle.
>	- comes with rings.
>	- Less than 1000 made very rare.
>	 S/N.73-35088

Just as a point of information for anyone that drools over .358 WCF
bolt guns the way I do :-), the statement that these guns are "rare,"
while it is technically correct, is somewhat misleading.  It is true
that the run of .358 M77R made in 1975-78 was limited to less than
1000 pieces.  However, Ruger made another run recently (1988, I think)
of the M77RS bolt guns in .358 Win.  There were about 3000 or so made,
and they are "rare" but not all that uncommon.  One of the local gun
shops that specializes in limited run guns here where I live has one
NIB that you can walk out the door with for about $510 including tax,
which isn't much more than the $450 or so that normal M77RS rifles go
for in these parts.  So before anyone goes out and spends some big
bucks on one of these "rare" .358s for a shooter, you might want to
check around for the newer guns (or drop me a line, I can hook you up
with this local guy and he can ship to your dealer, if you *really*
want one and can't locate any near where you live -- a feeling that
a lover of odd calibers such as myself can relate to :-).  The only
differences between these two limited runs is that the new one is the
RS model and has sights (they are also 77x-xxxxx rifles, and have the
corresponding improvements over the older 7x-xxxxx ones).
     The .358 WCF is an excellent caliber for hunting and I highly
recommend it.  And if anybody wants to part with a Winchester M70 in
that caliber, please let me know (not that I can afford one ;-).


John

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From: Bob.Upson@f333.n142.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Upson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Grand Pennsic
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:35:00 -0500

> Well, I think that Ruslan and Margaret, and Katya and Ronin were trying
> to take to literal heart the worries of people like Master El.  I think
> they over-reacted, by trying to turn Pennsic into a "Tournament" instead
> of a "War".  The obvious personal friendship of the two royal couples,
> the "Kill Your Allies" battle (East+Middle versus Known World) and the
> joint Pennsic Party were more than enough.  Somehow, stepping on twenty
> years of tradition seems like too much.
 
Hear, hear.  The spirit of the game was revived by deeds, not politically
correct euphemisms...  Although the heralds *did* have great sport with the
XXIst Pennsic Geopolitical Miscommunication bits... <SEG>
From: daver@mozart.amd.com (David Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: A&S camp / music camp at Pennsic
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:35:36 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

Robyn Solarius                  Dave Rubin
Bryn Gwlad, Ansteorra           Austin, Tx.


P.S.  I would like any and all feedback on the Polyphonic challenge.....




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From: cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pennsic Schtik (was Re: Grand Pennsic)
Date: 21 Aug 1992 23:53:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <VPeVPB1w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> graydon@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Graydon) writes:
>
>
>So, when do we attack the West, and whose banner goes first?

Well, if I understand correctly what all those people were going on about
at Court, we all go to Calontir next June and then you attack -- if we
don't attack first --

And as to which of you attacks first, hmmm, you could fight a war to
decide it...or maybe you could just toss a coin.  Or cast _sortes_,
opening the Bible or the Aeneid or something at random and seeing where
your finger lands and what advice you can gain from that.  And then
you could argue over the interpretation ... maybe you'd better toss a
coin after all ... or we could let the Captain of Caid attack first, he's
so enthusiastic, and then we could all pile in.


Dorothea of Caer-Myrddin                               Dorothy J. Heydt
Mists/Mists/West                                              Albany CA
Argent, a cross forme'e sable

Disclaimer: This is the Cozzarelli Lab's account, not mine--but I don't
think anybody else ever reads it.

From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: garb: I need some !!
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:07:48 -0500

clueless@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Huh?) writeth:

HU>  I need garb !  I would prefer to have patterns to make it from
HU> but I don't know where to find any.

If worst comes to worst, I have written down how to make a simple t-tunic and
straight-leg "diamond-center" pants - email me, or if there is enough interest
I can post it.  There are "cheats" too, like sweatpants and tights....

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From: habura@vccnorthb.its.rpi.edu (Andrea Marie Habura)
Subject: Re: Pennsic Update (End)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:59:07 GMT

One reason for the no-show phenomenon might be the economic conditions this
year. Pennsic planning now requires getting encampment lists done up about
five to six months in advance. If an economic catastrophe hits between the
time the Land Grab is finalized and Pennsic rolls around, there's not much
that can be done about it. Conversely, if someone *finds* a job in May and
can suddenly afford to go to the War, the five-month lag time means they
won't be able to find camping space and won't go. Thus, no-shows.

I'm a case in point. My husband/lord was laid off in April. We had made 
arrangements with our household in February for space at the War. We were
able to scrape together a few hundred dollars for War expenses, but were hit
with an unexpected insurance bill in July...one we could have covered under
normal circumstances, but not while Simon was on unemployment. So much for
Pennsic. Incidentally, Simon starts work at his new job today (so I'm not too
sorry we didn't go to the War, since he interviewed during War week.) If this
sort of thing happened to a lot of people (and I've heard similar tales from 
several gentles), this could explain a lot.

Alison MacDermot
From: whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Principality futures (was: Re: Drachenwald to be kingdom)
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:33:23 GMT
Reply-To: whheydt@PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA

In article <1992Aug21.124700.22424@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> carl@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Alexander of Kiev (mka Carl Alexander)) writes:
>I'd be interested in hearing from those of you who live in the 
>current permanent Principalities about what you find to be the
>advantages and disadvantages of such an arrangement.

Advantages:

	Hot&Cold running Royalty
	Low level awards can be handled by 'local' Royalty
	Prince appears to be an excellent training ground for King
	More good sized events close by
	Just plain more events
	Principality office is a good experience path for officers

Disadvantages:

	My God the amount of time (and money) spent at events
	Requires more folks that are competent administrators
	Generates large quantities of Royal Peers

On the last point, I understand there is a joke in some of the more
eastern kingdoms that goes:  

	Q: What do you call a Western fighter?

	A:  Your Excellency

What with 4 Principalities (two reigns each in 3 of 'em and 3 in the
other one--I think) and 3 reigns a year in the kingdom, we accumulate
Viscounts and Counts fairly rapidly . . .

	--Hal

        Hal Ravn, Province of the Mists, West Kingdom
        Wilson H. Heydt, Jr.,  Albany, CA 94706,  510/524-8321 (home)
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From: mittle@watson.ibm.com (Josh Mittleman)
Subject: Re: Who Won the War?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:14:09 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Greetings from Arval!  Carolus asked:

> Can anyone report on what An Tir did?

Alas, very little.  An Tir had no official spokesman at any of the
ceremonies or courts, and as best I could determine, there were only 4 An
Tiraidd subjects at the event: Duke Manfred (the electric Lansknicht),
Fearga, Svein Egilsson and Anna von Engelberg.  I believe Svein fought
with his friends from Sternfeld in the Midrealm.

===========================================================================
Arval Benicoeur                                       mittle@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: 00030929@ysub.ysu.edu
Subject: Re: Clueless Classes
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:41:56 GMT

Greetings to all, especially Arval, from Vajk!
 
Arval wrote:
 
  >  The Pennsic classes constitute an important schola:
  >  For many people, these are the only classes that
  >  they attend in the entire year.
 
  >  I'm not sure it it is reasonable to expect the class
  >  autocrat to personally review every class, so perhaps
  >  some sort of letter of recommendation could be accepted.
  >  I think requiring a letter from the head of a kingdom
  >  guild, a kingdom officer, or other reliable source
  >  might be enough to ensure that most of the teachers are
  >  competent.
 
I agree that Pennsic classes constitute an important schola.
Further, a letter of recommendation might help, and can
probably be accepted as a good indicator if it comes from the
sources Arval mentioned.
 
That takes care of some of the problems, but does
not address, for instance, the problem of finding
an instructor for things not included under any
guild.  Also, it would be unusual, I think, for a
report to have been sent to a kingdom officer that
so-and-so is doing research in such-and-such a field.
While research into an unusual or unexpected field
might be noted, reporting such things as "Vajk has
researched Magyar history this quarter" is not likely
to be done to any officer.  It's just too common,
and most of us do some type of research during a
reporting period.  Unless it was something specific,
it will probably not be reported even to a local
officer.
 
In the long run, IF a kingdom officer or guild-head
can vouch for someone, that's great.  If not, it
does not mean that the person is incompetent to
teach the class, and some other method would need
to be found.
 
I really hope we can find some solution, as my own
experience shows that anyone could teach anything
right now.
 
Vajk
From: Joe.Bethancourt@f4229.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Bethancourt)
Sender: FredGate@ocitor.fidonet
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: How to fold/wear gre
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:29:08

 -=> Jay Brandt said to All on 08-13-92  21:00 <=- 

 > Please send instructions for folding and wearing the Great Scottish Kilt or 
 > feileadh-mor.  As I understand it, this was a large piece of tartan or 

 JB> that I am not CERTAIN that this is the true and ancient method of
 JB> wearing the great kilt. But the appearance, when worn, matches the old
 JB> paintings and illustrations, and I have never had a complaint from any
 JB> member of a Scottish Clan Association that it was in any way incorrect
 JB> or inappropriate. If anything, they are usually fascinated to see it
 JB> and think it looks quite good. If anyone knows a more authentic method
 JB> than the one I describe here, I WANT TO KNOW! I would prefer to be as
 JB> accurate as possible on this, as I am developing a Scotts personna
 JB> (Michael McaGaughey). 

Some points: the pouch/sporran should be worn -on- the belt, not from the
more modern chain affair, and the Skean Dubh was worn under the armpit or
up the sleeve. (How to putit under the armpit? Easy: take a leather thong,
and run it under the opposite armpit, cross it at the shoulderblades, and
fasten it under the opposite armpit to the skean. I modified the sheath of 
mine to have a little ring at the tip of the sheath, to suspend it upside
down beneath the arm. Look at a modern shoulder holster for clarification.)

Kudos for the drawstring underwear! This is the period practice indeed.

Remember to use shoes of the one-piece construction type, similar to dance
ghillies, and leave off the socks.

                                                -Ioseph of Locksley
              Who, in another incarnation, is Harper to Clan MacRae


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From: Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Pennsic Champions (was Re: Pennsic Update (End))
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:22:22 EDT
Organization: Shipbrook Software  (Tampa, FL)

Greetings from Godfrey!

In article <IeXivkS00WB744JPET@andrew.cmu.edu>, ds4p+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Schroeder) writes:
> 
> The final attendance count was just under 7300 (I think) and the
> East "won" the Grand Tourney, taking both Champions' battles,

Actually, the East took all *three* Champions' points (the Archery 
Champions' shoot was the first point taken by the East in the, er,
geopolitical manifestation).

And I'd like to give a hearty virtual cheer to the archer who shot for
the Mid in the Champion's shoot (his first name was Brandon, I believe);
standing alone at the end of the Advancing Soldiers shoot, he slew no
fewer than *seven* Eastrealm archers in a row before he was himself
killed.

(I'll speak the sentiment which I heard echoed by practically all the
remaining Eastrealm champions: would that I'd had a chance to shoot
against him, for 'twould have been a great honour to have bested him,
yet no less great a glory to have been myself bested by such a fine
archer!)

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From: 00030929@ysub.ysu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Pennsic, Some Thoughts
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:26:50 GMT
Organization: Youngstown State University

Greetings to all, from Vajk!
 
Right from the start I want to try to keep
things straight here on this topic.
 
The things I posted here were a kind of
summary of some things people were saying.
Since so many had said similar things in
a short period of time, it seemed reasonable
that there might be more wide-spread interest
in such things.
 
Indeed, Dafydd ap Gwystl even suggested that
something "similar" has already occurred, and
this gives impetus to the idea that the
time is right to consider it.
 
First of all, I have *NOT* made the
suggestion that this be a kind of
"Enchanted Ground".  It was suggested
that (if I interpret correctly) some
of the same problems might occur with
an A&S encampment as have occurred with
the Enchanted Ground.
 
Second, an "encampment" was only one
idea.  It should *NOT* be considered
as an initial or original proposal for
discussion.  The idea is to provide more
intense A&S activity at Pennsic, providing
a means for longer, perhaps several days
long or up to two-week long, "classes".
 
Third, I have misled with my phrasing.
When I say that equipment can be set up
"permanently" I mean from whenever the
"class" might begin until Pennsic is over.
It is not meant to mean over the whole
year, nor even for any period outside of
Pennsic.  In other words, it would be for
approximately the time of the land lottery
to the end of Pennsic, about 2 weeks.
 
Fourth, it is not necessary that *every*
"class" run this long.  Again, the ideas I
heard were all along the lines of making it
possible, not mandatory, for A&S classes
that would take longer than the usual 1-3
hour classes we have now to take place.
 
Correspondence with Dafydd ap Gwystl tend
to indicate that "class" might not be the
best descriptor, but for now it will work.
 
To repeat the original intention, in simple
terms:  to set up an area where it is possible
to have longer, and perhaps on-going, A&S
instruction for those fields where large and
essentially non-portable equipment does not
need to be removed at the end of each "class".
 
All other ideas were simply possible means
through which that could be implemented.  Dafydd
has presented some encouraging information,
and I will try to stay in touch with him.
 
Everyone is encouraged to participate, comment,
suggest, and otherwise hash-out all ideas
presented, so long as we do not become bogged
down.  This idea is good, I think.  Let's not
lose sight of what's happening.
 
Vajk
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