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From: mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)
Subject: Re: Comparison of Alpha, MIPS and PA-RISC-II wanted
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:39:07 GMT

In article <C02wyJ.56s@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
>Okay, so the "file system" books cover RMS.  That means that they're not
>file system books, and that they've been misnamed.  No, I'm not joking.
>
>RMS: RECORD Managment (manglement) Services.  Perhaps it takes a genious to
>see that this is a set of Services to Manage Records.  A record is not a file,
>but instead a part of a file.  File management is handled via $QIO calls.

Before I getted flamed on this, let me add something else.  RMS *does*
provide calls that allow for file management ($create, $rename, $delete, etc.).
That's nice, but it doesn't mean it's the file system.

If you can't grok this concept, consider this: the VAX C RTL also provides
calls (creat, delete, rename, etc.).  Would you call it the file system?
Didn't think so...

	Darrin
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.dec:6631 comp.unix.ultrix:9100
From: rjones@wsl.dec.com (Russ Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Alpha AXP Workstation Technical Overviews
Date: 28 Dec 1992 20:37:38 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: raptor.pa.dec.com

Technical overviews of the DEC/3000 Model 400 and 500 AXP Workstations 
and Server products are now available on gatekeeper.dec.com in the /pub/DEC/DECinfo/technical-overview directory.  

	dec-3000-400-axp.ps (and .Z)
	dec-3000-500-axp.ps (and .Z)

You might want to also look at the index file to see what other technical 
overviews are available.

-- 
Russ Jones
UNIX Marketing
Digital Equipment Corporation
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: tfoley@camaro (Tim Foley)
Subject: PDP 11/34 Information
Organization: camaro
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:26:56 GMT
Summary: Acquired one just recently

  I know, its ancient, but it was free.  Anyways, I known have two
PDP 11/34's, one is from 1978 and the other from 1984, the older
one has a small keypad on the front, manual bootstraping eh!  The
newer model doesn't.  I also got a RL01, but thats just a 10 meg HD
as I remember.
 
  The uqestion I want to know if anyone has a copy of an older Unix os for 
this guy, I can come with up a RX01 and maybe and RX02 for floppy.  
 
  I don't want to really put it to much use, I just like collecting nifty 
computers, I have enough unix boxes around here to keep the important stuff 
going, like usenet...  I just want to play around with this
11/34 and an older unix for it (Will it even run on it?  Or is the RL01 
enough to get it started?)
 
  If there is a faq on older decs or something, could someone direct me to 
it?  As I can't accept large email messages.
 
						Tim G. Foley
 
 
P.S. Does anyone have any extra VT220 (LK201) keyboards for sale/trade?
     I need two.




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From: kcwellsc@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Ken Wellsch)
Subject: Re: RD53s won't stay spun-up
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:38:01 GMT

> I have a pair of RD53s (real DEC-labelled RD53s) which I tried to put
> on a DOS machine.  I pulled the R7 jumper and set the drive select to
> 1, and managed to get one to format on the ST506 controller.  However
> it then started to exhibit a strange behavior:  It won't stay spun up.
> When power is applied it spins up to what seems to be close to full speed;
> I think I hear the click indicating that the heads are being released;
> but then it spins down again.
> 
> Same thing happened with the other drive even before I tried formatting
> it.
> 
> What could I have done to these drives???

You don't say anything about the history of the drives.  We here at U of
Waterloo have loads of RD53's that have the same behavior.  Our hardware
wizards have swapped the board portion among the drives from known working
drives without success.  So my guess is you've received these drives with
this condition (i.e. they did the same in their DEC equipment as well
which maybe why you've now got them?)

The current theory is this: these Micropolis 1325's and 1335's apparently
have quite sophisticated current sensing circuits to monitor the motor
load and such.  With time, the motor windings degrade and the current
load exceeds the tolerance of the limiting circuit.  The spin-up spin-down
behavior is the drive saying I am not working correctly.

I've also heard about these puppy's having thermal troubles as well, they
run for a while then spin down.  I think it may be a similar problem.

Indeed as others have pointed out, they do draw a heck of a current normally
as well -- 2.5A as +12V normally.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: sysgaertner@cygnus.frm.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (M. Gaertner, FRM, TH Darmstadt, Germany)
Subject: What about this config ?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:47:06 GMT
Reply-To: sysgaertner@cygnus.frm.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de
Organization: Fachbereichsrechner Maschinenbau, TH Darmstadt, Germany

Hi there,
I'm just trying to configure my little uVAX II with a new disk-controller.
I looked up all the bus-loads and power lines, added them and I know
want to know your opinion to that:
Guess the following:
1 * BA23-Box
1 * KA630
1 * MA630-B* (4MB)
1 * MA630-C* (8MB)
1 * DELQA
1 * DZQ11
1 * KDA50 (Yes, I know not supported in BA23, but does it work ?!)
1 * TKQ50
1 * TK50
-----------
So far, power on 5V = 32.5 A, max. is 36A
        power on 12V = 1.03 A, max is 7A
I did not find any max. bus-loads, but sum so far is:
AC : 12.4   DC: 3.5

This should be fine so far (except the unsupported KDA50)
I now want to add:
1 * RQDX3
1 * RQDXE
---------------
power 5V = 35.48 A
power 12V = 1.1 A
AC: 14.3    DC: 5

Well, power at 5V is pretty close to the limit. Will this work stable ??
What about the bus-loads ?
Btw. currently the system is running with 
RQDX3, RQDXE, KA630, MA630-B*, MA630-C*, 2*DZQ11, DELQA, TKQ50, TK50

So, I want to expand my disk-space with some RA-disks, thus adding the KDA50.
Ok, any thoughts ? May I add the RQDX or may I better leave it ? Oh, I have a 
spare PC-powersupply (200W), I could add this one to my box...

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From: jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss)
Subject: Re: NSF mounting problem
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:12:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.222758.11563@samba.oit.unc.edu> Eric.Aitala@launchpad.unc.edu (Eric Aitala) writes:
>	We're having a problem with our DEC system.  We keep losing the NSF
>servers on various machines.   The system keeps complaning that the NSF mount
>is not responding.  We've had no luck tracing the problem, it seems
>to happen completely randomly.  Anyone have any ideas?
>

In spite of the fact that you haven't given us a clue as to what hardware,
software or breath mint you are using, I'll share my own experiences with
you.

I'm running an 11/750 with vms 5.4-3 and UCX 2.0.  This is a real slow
puppy even on a good day.  Often when I try to do NFS mounts from our NeXT
boxes, we see messages similiar to those you mention.

Basically it appears that if the 750 is busy it takes quite a while to
start a new process to service NFS.  The NeXT gets quite impatient about
the delay and times out.  I guess I should configure things to start the
nfs server at boot time and keep it around. I haven't really hacked around
to see if there is a way to lengthen the amount of time the NeXT's will
wait.

Good luck.

-- 
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From: kalisiak@acsu.buffalo.edu (Christophe M. Kalisiak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: RZ22 info anyone?
Date: 28 Dec 92 04:54:14 GMT
Organization: UB

Hello all,

	I have an RZ22 (aka Conner) drive which I need to know how 
to spin up. The Amiga controller which this drive is going on does 
not do the SCSI command to spin up the drive, so I need to know what 
jumper will cause the drive to spin up when power is applied.

Thanks,
Chris

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From: mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)
Subject: Re: Comparison of Alpha, MIPS and PA-RISC-II wanted
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:42:18 GMT

In article <3623363@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
>zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>> > 		*Volume 6B*
>>                          ^
>> Perhaps you could tell the nice reader what else is in vol 6.
>
>Oh alright.  6A is the other *File System* book, including:
>
>	Guide to File Applications
>	ANALYZE/RMS
>	CONVERT
>	File Definition Language
>	and the National Character Set stuff (why?  I dunno.)
>
>All good clean RMS stuff.  To get into the stuff the previous poster 
>described as the "file system", you have to head for the I/O User's 
>book.  ("User's"?  That one is one of the more formidable volumes....)

Okay, so the "file system" books cover RMS.  That means that they're not
file system books, and that they've been misnamed.  No, I'm not joking.

RMS: RECORD Managment (manglement) Services.  Perhaps it takes a genious to
see that this is a set of Services to Manage Records.  A record is not a file,
but instead a part of a file.  File management is handled via $QIO calls.

And, no, the IO User's Guide is not difficult by any means, at least not if
you understand how to use $QIO.  It has many excellent examples, and it covers
the file system.

	Darrin
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From: ajc@pa.dec.com (AJ Casamento)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Play CD on DEC ?
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:23:35
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: jli@udecc.engr.udayton.edu's message of 18 Dec 92 19:57:57 GMT


Folks,

  Well, I tried answering this one off-line (since it comes up so often and a
lot of you have had to see it so often) but, email bounced...sigh. 

				Thanx,
				  AJ

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To: jli@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Jinghong Li)
Cc: ajc@Pa.dec.com
Subject: Play CD on DEC ?




To:  jli@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Jinghong Li)


  I think you will find a pointer in the Ultrix FAQ which is available on

gatekeep:   16.1.0.2		gatekeeper:/pub/DEC/ultrix-faq.txt


to the XCD code which will allow you to do what you want. Enjoy.

				Thanx,
				  AJ


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   From:  jli@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Jinghong Li)
   Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
   Date: 18 Dec 92 19:57:57 GMT
   Distribution: usa
   Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering

   How to play CD (music) on DECstations ?  We have DEC 5000-133
   here with the CD ROM and headphone, but don't know how to 
   use them - Please help.

   What is the command, and/or where to get the function (ftp site) ?

   Thanks


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From: gucpe@gd.chalmers.se (Peter Gustafsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Campus reseller of DEC-workstations?
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:23:03 GMT
Organization: Gothenburg Universities Computing Centre
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X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21: 32:58 GMT
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Hi, 
anyone got experience of Campus resellers of UNIX-workstations?
I know that both Sun and DEC has programs (Sun Campus Dealer/DEC
Campus Reseller).

How usual is it that you can buy workstations in a on-campus shop?
Is it a good way to buy cheap WS? How about service/demos/prices?

Can you direct me to persons working whit this?

Please respond by mail...

      Peter Gustafsson
      gucpe@gd.chalmers.se

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: mattair@sun44.synercom.hounix.org (Charles Mattair)
Subject: Question regarding dissemination of copyrighted DEC material
Organization: Synercom Technology, Inc., Houston, TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:20:23 GMT

I have developed modifications to Conor Cahill's marvelous malloc debugging
replacement which allows it to run in a VMS VAXCRTL replacement.  I would like
to submit these mods to Conor for inclusion with the package he submits to
comp.sources.

Part of these mods were creating a transfer vector source to allow building
the RTL itself.  In the fiche (I'll be truthful, I typed it in from there but
we have it legally so this was ok, at least for us), this module is
copyrighted by DEC.

My question is: can I legally include the transfer vector, assuming I include
the DEC copyright notice.  I'm willing to entertain any reasonable requirements
DEC may find it necessary to impose.  Also, if I am violating DEC licensing
policy or copyrights now, please let me know - my reading of the appropriate
licenses/copyrights leads me to believe I am not.

I am speaking as an individual here and cannot bind my employer in any way.

Please respond by Email and I will summarize the resultant opinion.  Thanks.
-- 
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Any opinions offered are my own and do not reflect those of my employer.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: stevehsu@tpsws4.tpo.dec.com (steve hsu)
Subject: Suspended (tty input) rlogin program
Reply-To: stevehsu@tpsws4.tpo.dec.com (steve hsu)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:06:15 GMT


Hi,
	 I have porting a customer's program from Ultrix to OSF/1, and my 
configuration is DEC 3000/500 OSF/1 BL10. Now, I have some trouble when I used
the following script for background remote login simultaneously multiuser no 
passwd.The error messages has been display 

	****Suspended (tty input)rlogin -l tl1 tpac35 ??? >-****
        ****Suspended (tty input)rlogin -l tl2 tpac35 ??? >-****
        ****Suspended (tty input)rlogin -l tl3 tpac35 ??? >-****
        ****Suspended (tty input)rlogin -l tl4 tpac35 ??? >-****

	This program ran no above mesages on Ultrix.

	Could you someone tell me what I miss something on OSF/1 ?

	I would appreciate your kindly help.


*********************
** Refereence File **
*********************

script file :
	rlogin -l tl1 tpac35 &
	rlogin -l tl2 tpac35 &
	rlogin -l tl3 tpac35 &	
	rlogin -l tl4 tpac35 &

/etc/hosts file:
127.0.0.1 localhost
16.157.128.85  tpac35   tpac35.tpo.dec.com

/etc/passwd file:
root:vsKg1CGF2Duh6:0:1:system PRIVILEGED account:/:/bin/csh
tl1::19:15:tl1:/usr/users/stevehsu/tl_ben/tl1:/usr/bin/csh
tl2::20:15:tl2:/usr/users/stevehsu/tl_ben/tl2:/usr/bin/csh
tl3::21:15:tl3:/usr/users/stevehsu/tl_ben/tl3:/usr/bin/csh
tl4::22:15:tl4:/usr/users/stevehsu/tl_ben/tl4:/usr/bin/csh

/etc/hosts.equiv file:
tpac35 tl1
tpac35 tl2
tpac35 tl3
tpac35 tl4

For everyaccount's home directory .rhosts file
*
tpac35  tl1
tpac35  tl2
tpac35  tl3
tpac35  tl4


Regards,
Steve Hsu	VAXmail : TPOVC::STEVEHSU
		Internet : stevehsu@tpovc.enet.dec.com
From: lilleyc@cs.man.ac.uk (Chris Lilley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: DEC Read/Write of DOS floppy disk
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:09:51 GMT
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

In article <1992Dec17.140256.18994@infodev.cam.ac.uk> mjl17@mbuc.bio.cam.ac.uk (Michael Lush) writes:
>
>	A week ago I posted the following question:-
>
>>        I have a DECstation 5000/25 (running ULTRIX V4.2A (Rev. 47)),
>>and I want to read and/or write to DOS floppy disks via the internal
>>disk drive.
>>        How do I do this?  I've been told its possible but not how
>>to do it.

Well sorry, I missed the original post. Anyway, two more options that
were not mentioned in your summary:

1)	Use SoftPC which is a DOS emulator and (I think) alows use of
the internal floppy drive as a DOS disk

2)	Not using your internal drive. Depends if that was essential,
or you just want to read & write DOS disks.... If so, get a cheap PC
somewhere that has 3.5 and 5.25 drives, add an ethernet card, get some
software that lets you telnet, ftp, and lp and away you go. The actual
PC need not be that great, it is just a networked floppy. We have an
old 286 which is used for exactly that.

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From: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Subject: Looking for printer drivers/tables for All-in-1/WPS-PLUS
Reply-To: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 21:02:52 GMT

I'm looking for any working printer drivers to use with All-in-1 (2.4
or 3.0) for either a DECmultijet 1000 (aka LJ16P) or DECmultijet 2000
(aka LJ36P) 

OR

A way to use the Deskjet 500 drivers for ALl-in-1 with them.

((*And, Yes, I DID call Digital Support and, No, they couldn't help
me. *))

Thanks....

-AndyS-

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From: zapantis@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca (Nik Zapantis)
Subject: Is there/will there be a TC or F+ to Q-bus interface?
Keywords: TC,Q-Bus,F+
Reply-To: zapantis@uvphys.phys.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Physics & Astronomy
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 17:58:04 GMT


In planning for an Alpha upgrade, we would like to maintain our existing Q-Bus
peripherals for as long as they last. It makes no sense to get TC or F+ 
interfaces for said peripherals, because they are old (in age and in technology).
The ideal solution would be to have a TC or F+ to Q-bus interface, thus using
our VAX3800 just like an expansion box( no, I do not want to make it part of 
the Cluster).
I believe there is such a beast for the VAX4000/100, and would like to know
if something similar is/will be available for Alpha systems.

thanks
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From: noel@reg.triumf.ca (NOEL GIFFIN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: PDP 11/34 Information
Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:47 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <BzoIoL.7Mp@world.std.com>, mbg@world.std.com (Megan B Gentry) writes...
> 
>Yes, RL01 is 10mb.
> 

	No! The RL01 was only 5 MB.  The RL02 was 10 MB.  

	How soon we forget.
		
					Noel@reg.triumf.ca
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From: Eric.Aitala@launchpad.unc.edu (Eric Aitala)
Subject: NSF mounting problem
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:27:58 GMT

Hi Folks,
	
	We're having a problem with our DEC system.  We keep losing the NSF
servers on various machines.   The system keeps complaning that the NSF mount
is not responding.  We've had no luck tracing the problem, it seems
to happen completely randomly.  Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
	Eric


aitala@beauty1.phy.olemiss.edu
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From: young@eg.ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Young)
Subject: Re: RSX Magic Date
Summary: Yes, there's a magic date... 
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:02:04 GMT

	Anders, there was a discussion a few weeks back about this. The upshot
is that there is a bug in the RSX Queue Manager, and there exists a patch
for the (latest?? affected??) release of M-PLUS. Now for my 2 cents' worth:
Is there some reason the patch can't be made generally available, like on
gatekeeper.dec.com, for those of us that find we need it ?!?! If it's for
another rev, no problem, maintainers can thumb thru it, get the gist of the
patch, and apply as much of it as necessary to make it work. It's not like
we're asking for SPR support here...

	What say, Dec RSX folks?


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