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From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Where is regcmp on HP 9000/750?
Summary: Linking and Philosophy
Keywords: Linking
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:14:01 GMT
Organization: Arete Associates, San Diego

In article <Bx91Bn.9vG@apollo.hp.com> web@apollo.HP.COM (Bill Bennett) writes:
>From page 3-2 of the Rev 1.1 OSF/Motif Programmer's Guide:
>   8  Link relevant libraries.    cc -o app app.c -lXm -lXt -lX11 -lPW
>libPW.a contains regcmp; it must be linked if you use XmFileSelectionBox.

The number of UNIX linking options for some of the X programs are
getting a bit silly.  A computer should be able to do these things
for you.  How about changing the linker to search an index, instead
of the direct library files.  Something like:

	{
	   Loop on unresolved functions
		Linker needs sin finction
		{
		Search /usr/lib/library.index
		Hmmm, sin is in -lm
		Insert -lm automatically into path
		Search for dependencies and auto insert required libraries
		Warn user "#include <math.h>" not in source
		}
	}

	Sort libraries by order dependencies
	Echo inserted -l options to user

Hmmm?

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,uiuc.sys.hp
From: paul@engin.umich.edu (Paul Killey)
Subject: Re: Life In Hell -- The Freeze Goes On
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 13:53:28 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <Bx22Gp.BnB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kemp@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (John Kemp) writes:

>[Report on the continuing search for an answer to the problem on an HP720
>which causes unpredictable "freezes" of from 1-9 minutes.  Even the
>system "heartbeat" locks up!  We've thought we had it licked before,
>but it just isn't so.  We now think of the "freeze" as a feature.  ;-/]
>

Are you using an active scsi terminator?  We had the same problem
until we got the correct (external) scsi terminators.  Pretty sure
they are active.

I missed any previous posts on this topic, so don't know whatever
you've tried.  This was what it boiled down to for us.

>But of course, it is our own fault for being cheap and not
>buying all HP sanctioned peripherals to begin with.

We buy all our drives (which is a lot of drives) from NPI and have
had a good experience with them, both with sales and engineering
support.  If HP wanted you to buy their drives, they would price them
so that you would do that.

>The freeze was quelled by cycling power on the HP97560 disk.
>So obviously, the SCSI bus is somehow hanging the entire machine
>up during a read or write call to the disk drives!!!

Again, we had exactly the same problem.  Just buy a cable/terminator
kit from HP and check that out on your Wren drives.  We did that just
to troubleshoot and rule in or out cable and terminator problems.

--paul
From: mark@hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (Mark Simms)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Please give help on HP printers
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:22:08 GMT
Organization: HP Computer Peripherals Bristol, UK

>> First: We have a Novell network running on a 386 server.  We have a
>> Hewlett-Packard LaserJet III (with PostScript) hooked into the LAN.  In
>> addition, we have a Macintosh IIsi computer with an Ethernet card.  Both
>> the Macintosh and the Novell LAN have Ethernet access to the University's
>> LAN.  Is there a way that we can print from the Macintosh to the LaserJet
>> III on the Novell LAN?  If so, what kind of equipment do we need.

I would have thought that the obvious way to do this is to run Novell
on the Macintosh.  Assuming that you don't need AppleTalk
connectivity, this should be no problem.  I do not know how much this
would cost.  I also do not know whether sending Novell traffic across
a non-Novell LAN would cause problems.  Best bet is to contact Novell
and ask them whether it would work.

Mark Simms

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bennett@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Steve Bennett)
Subject: CAP/AUFS on HP730
Reply-To: bennett@areaplg2.corp.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:50:06 GMT

Has anyone been able to successfully run the AUFS on a HP 730. Printing using
papif works just fine however when I start the AUFS deamon its says it
successfully registers itself with the atis daemon which I can confrim with atis
dump however, I can not see the server using atlook or from the macs. I am using
KIP instead of UAD because I do not have a transition bridge running. ANy ideas.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Subject: Upgrades from the 710 to the 715 possible?
Organization: ISCA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:30:10 GMT

Will it be possible to upgrade a 710 to a 715?  It'd be the same clock rate,
but if the 99MHz 755 is nearly twice the speed of the 66MHz 750, it sounds like
one could still expect almost a 50% performance boost.  If the "easy no penalty
CPU board upgrades" mentioned in HP's press release from the 720 and up to the
new CPU also applies to the 705 and 710, that sounds like a pretty good deal!

Anyone know?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bpja@codex.com.au (Brett Adam)
Subject: Shared libraries - structural questions
Reply-To: bpja@codex.com.au
Organization: Codex Software Development Pty Ltd
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 05:27:05 GMT

Does anyone have any references to the 'additional' object format structures  
that are present in shared libraries on a series 700 machine?

To quote the man page for a.out_800:

      A shared library file, created by the linker, contains the same
      sections found in an executable file, with additional information
      added to the code section of the file. This additional information
      contains a header, export table, import table, and dynamic relocation
      records to be used by the dynamic loader.

I'm interested in examining this information directly. I've scoured the header  
files and the limited references to which I have access, all to no avail.

Any help appreciated.

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From: killoran@ll.mit.edu (Mike Killoran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: emacs problem under HP-VUE
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:42:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: ll.1992Nov5.144201.13688
Reply-To: killoran@ll.mit.edu (Mike Killoran)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Originator: killoran@ll.mit.edu (Mike Killoran)


Hi,

I just got the latest release of emacs (18.58) and
compiled it on our new HP730.  Everything seems to
work except _some_ of the Meta functions.  Some are
OK, such as M-< and M->, but something like M-x 
won't work.  For alot of the functions that won't
work, emacs seems to be getting a different key press.

e.g., I'll press M-x and M-q will be displayed in the
mini-buffer at the bottom of the emacs window.  It's 
as if _some_ of the Meta functions are being _translated_
before they get to emacs.

Could this be the 700's X server or HP-VUE?  I ask this
way because of the following:

	If I go to another workstation, rlogin to the 730,
set my DISPLAY enviornment variable to the workstation I'm
at, and run emacs....  everything works fine!

The 730 is the only 700 series machine in the group (all
the rest are 300 series), so perhaps the 700's X server?
The 700 is also the only one running HP-VUE, maybe that?
Note that the keypress' aren't being stopped -- emacs
gets a keypress, just not what I typed!

Thanks for any help,

Mike Killoran
killoran@ll.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: web@apollo.HP.COM (Bill Bennett)
Subject: Re: Where is regcmp on HP 9000/750?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:21:23 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: regular expression HP

From page 3-2 of the Rev 1.1 OSF/Motif Programmer's Guide:

   8  Link relevant libraries.    cc -o app app.c -lXm -lXt -lX11 -lPW

libPW.a contains regcmp; it must be linked if you use XmFileSelectionBox.
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From: floyd@media.mit.edu (Bob Sabiston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Life In Hell -- The Freeze Goes On
Date: 8 Nov 92 20:49:03 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

I also get those freezes--the heartbeat light
stops and everything.   Is this a common problem with the 720?
What is the best thing to do about it?  I have always hit the
TOC switch to reset... I always assumed the machine was hung,
so I never waited for 9 minutes to see if it would come back.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: cjw@moo.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Wargaski)
Subject: random system call?
Keywords: where is it?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:07:30 GMT


Hey, 

Does anyone know where to find the random system call?  I am trying to 
build emacs, and am having mega trouble on on a apollo 700.

cjw

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,gnu.gcc.help
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

  While Bill Hassell is correct in saying that 0s0 is not sacred, it is,
IMVHO, recommended because it is often the default. See for example the
"-r" option of mkrs(1m).
From: jrm@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (John Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: VUE, HPTerms and core files
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:03:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpuerca.BxAsED.MnJ
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

If your focus policy is explicit, try the following:

   in file /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Vuewm  add:
   Vuewm*passSelectButton: False 

Then see if you can still reproduce the problem.

Hpterm seems to have a problem with certain corner case cut operations.
You can inadvertently do one of these operations by clicking on the
body of the window to give it the focus.  If the select button event
is passed to hpterm it can look like a cut operation:
(button down - move mouse - button up).  
The failure is typically very difficult to reproduce since it seems
to result from some random movement of the mouse before the button
is released.  If this is the problem you are seeing setting
passSelectButton to false should avoid the failure.

---
jrm
From: stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: X - HP Vue - Motif - My Applications Resources ?
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:05:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> > The effect of useColorObj can be seen with the commands
> > 
> >  xdialog -xrm "*background:blue" -m "well?"
> > 
> >  xdialog -xrm "*background:blue" -xrm "*useColorObj:false" -m "well?"
> 
> When I try the second xdialog command I get a segmentation fault - core dump!!
> What is going on? I'm using VUE on a 720 under 8.07.
> Is this related to the fact that when I do an 'xterm -bg blue' I get a window
> with a *red* background?

I don't know where the difference lies.  I ran the command successfully on
an 8.07 system to a 9.0 X server.  The difference may be caused by the X
server or the differences between our resource databases.  It may be because
your server had all of the color cells in the default colormap used up.

Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com

P.S.  Do you have the "red" and "blue" cables swapped between your computer
      and monitor?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: martin@skyhawk.jsc.nasa.gov (Toby Martin 283-4268)
Subject: HP-IB communications
Organization: MDSSC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:41:59 GMT


Howdy Folks,
I hope this is the right group to post this question to (I couldn't find another group that seemed more appropriate).  I'm using an HP 3562A Dynamic Signal Analyzer and need to plot the results.  The lab has a Tektronic HC100 color plotter.  The plotter has a GP-IB/IEEE-488 interface and has an HPGL mode.  The Signal Analyzer only has the HP-IB (the connector is physically the same as the GP-IB/IEEE-488 connector), I speculate that HP 'rearranged' the signals from GP-IB to HP-IB, so the standard cable won'



t do.  I also speculate that this can be cleared up with a 'special' cable.  Please E-Mail me with any solutions, or confirmations on my speculations, or contacts that can help, or flames for asking this question in the wrong forum.
Thanks,

Toby
Toby Martin
Dynamics and Control
McDonnell Douglas Space Systems - Houston Division
(713) 283-4268
martin@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: aaa@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Simon Fowler)
Subject: Re: Casting from loose to strict alignment - what does this mean?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:56:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Atlanta GA

In article <1992Nov12.075922.1442@codex.oz.au>, bpja@codex.com.au (Brett Adam) writes:
> Ok, I'm beginning to clutch at straws but my memory problems have me somewhat  
> annoyed. The following applies to HP 700 series.
> 
> With all warnings on (+w1) using cc in ansi mode, I'm getting occasional  
> warnings of the following nature:
> 
> cc: "ni_glue.c", line 767: warning 530: Casting from loose to strict alignment.
> 
> Does anyone have a precise definition of what this means/indicates? I'm new to  
> the HP environment and am unsure as to how important this may be in the scheme  
> of things.

"Your program casts a pointer variable whose type is of looser alignment to a pointer
whose type is of stricter alignment."

e.g. casting from a (char *) to a (double *)

"Using this construct is prone to run-time problems(such as bus errors) because of
the alignment of the pointer's type not matching the alignment of the pointer's
value. Such conversions should not be used.
ANSI 3.3.4"

simon

Quotes from HPC Reference Manual.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: termcap lib for tcsh? How do I get it ?
From: nholford@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Nick Holford)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:49:43 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

rwp@fc.hp.com (Bob Proulx) writes:

>Sounds like you are trying to compile in ANSI mode but do not have an
>ANSI mode compiler.  "cc -Aa" turns on ANSI mode if you have it.

>Link with -ltermcap at the END of the line.  This should link in
>/usr/lib/libtermcap.a.  This file is in the PROG-MIN fileset.  Maybe
>it was removed on your system?

I bought an Instant Ignition HP730 with HP-UX 8.07. The cc that comes
with this does not support the -Aa option (its brain damaged nature is 
documented in the man pages for cc). 
Secondly, /usr/lib does not contain libtermcap.a. I did not remove it
(consciously). I cannot "find" PROG-MIN anywhere either. What is the
PROG-MIN fileset? Does it usually come with an hp system or must it be
bought as an add on?

-- 

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University of Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
INTERNET: n.holford@aukuni.ac.nz
From: gerstnet@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Thomas Gerstner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Xdbx on Snakes
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:38:49 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany

Sorry, if this is a FAQ, but i'm trying to compile xdbx on a 720 and i got the
following problem:

#include <sys/wait.h>

/* In our header file the second (int) is missing... */
#undef WIFSIGNALED
#define WIFSIGNALED(_X)       ((((int)(_X)&0377)!=0)&&(((int)(_X)&0377)!=0177))

static void quit_handler()
{
    union wait status;
    wait3(&status, WNOHANG|WUNTRACED, NULL);
/* Line 90: */
    if ((WIFEXITED(status) || WIFSIGNALED(status)) && !WIFSTOPPED(status)) {
        exit(1);
    }
}

  cc +O1 -Wp,-H200000      -DSYSV -D_NO_PROTO -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL 
     -DSTRINGS_ALIGNED    -c signals.c
cc: "signals.c", line 90: error 1527: Incompatible types in cast.
cc: "signals.c", line 90: error 1527: Incompatible types in cast.
cc: "signals.c", line 90: error 1527: Incompatible types in cast.
cc: "signals.c", line 90: error 1527: Incompatible types in cast.

Anybody got a solution or a substitution for this problem, or does anybody
successfully run xdbx together with xdb on a HP9000/700?

Thanx in advance,
     
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From: mpm@bmerh504bnr.ca (Mike Mogridge)
Subject: Re: X - HP Vue - Motif - My Applications Resources ?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 16:28:02 GMT

In article <7371448@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan) writes:
> > >Override it if you (and your customers) feel like it.  The colors can be
> > >yours to control if you set "*useColorObj: false" in your application's
> > >app defaults file.
> > 
> > This doesn't work on our HP-UX 8.07 750:
> > I have tried both "*useColorObj: false" and just "pict*useColorObj:
> > false" with motifgif and pict - using a global "false" causes motifgif
> > to core dump with a Bus Error, and setting it just for pict causes
> > pict to hang when it finds it can only get ~200 colours of the 256.
> > 
> > Where are these options documented? Do you have to set them then
> > logout/login so that all clients see the option, not just the new ones?
> 
> The resource certainly is underdocumented.  The only place I have seen
> it documented was in manuals for the Softbench CASE product.  I expect
> that the Vue implementors didn't anticipate that people would want to
> override the Vue color scheme.
> 
> The effect of useColorObj can be seen with the commands
> 
>  xdialog -xrm "*background:blue" -m "well?"
> 
>  xdialog -xrm "*background:blue" -xrm "*useColorObj:false" -m "well?"

When I try the second xdialog command I get a segmentation fault - core dump!!!!
What is going on? I'm using VUE on a 720 under 8.07.
Is this related to the fact that when I do an 'xterm -bg blue' I get a window
with a *red* background?

Mike.
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From: robbie@nb.rockwell.com (Edward MacRobbie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP VUE backdrops -- colour ???
Keywords: VUE backdrop colour
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:44:54 GMT
Organization: Rockwell International



Re-posting of unanswered questions:


	(1) Does anybody know if a colour bitmap can be 
	    placed as a backdrop on a HP730 running HP VUE ?
                     ...if so how ?

	(2) Does anybody know how to get HP VUE to "remember" previously
	    saved palette colours upon login. It seems that the STYLE
	    MANAGER (that little funny paint palette icon) will
	    restore previous login session palettes upon invocation.
	    Why VUE can't do the same upon login is beyond me ...

        (3) -- cutting remark -- why is it that trying to get info on
	    something so simple is so bloody impossible ..... especially
	    from certain parties who wrote the !@# thing in the first place.
	    


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                   good enough ..... just isn't
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, pasq@cup.hp.com (Mark Di Pasquale) writes:

> Mark Di Pasquale (pasq@cup.hp.com) wrote:
> : You might try writing a program that redirects stdin to your own private
> : mail file.  Then you can call that program in your .forward file:
> :
> :       "| /users/you/bin/program"
> :
> : Also, on my machine, I can copy and edit /usr/mail/pasq.  Perhaps one of
> : these ideas will help.
>
> I was reminded to mention that mail/sendmail/mailx/elm/mh use lock files
> before manipulating /usr/mail/user.  Please remember this if you create
> a program of some sort because you don't want to chance loosing mail.

     Don't bother trying to write mail processing programs like this.
It's much better to use Elm's filter(1) or Chip Salzenberg's deliver(8)
program.  Elm's filter(1) is the definitely the easier of the two to
use, but deliver(8) is definitely the most flexible.

     Elm's filter(1) program can be obtained as part of the Elm
source distribution.

     Chip Salzenberg's deliver(8) program can be found in any archive of
comp.sources.reviewed.

     -- Darryl Okahata
	Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com

DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not
constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the
little green men that have been following him all day.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: milburn@vision.postech.ac.kr (John Milburn)
Subject: Re: on -i broken?
Reply-To: milburn@vision.postech.ac.kr (John Milburn)
Organization: POSTECH, Pohang, Korea
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 02:58:38 GMT

In the referenced article (David Harrison) writes:

>Bonus skill-testing question: what does "nkotb" stand for as the
>hostname of the HP machine?

Uhh...New Kid On The Block?

-jem