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From: bala@iastate.edu (M.K.Balasubramanya)
Subject: Attack on Buddhist temple in Bangladesh - An Appeal
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:13:59 GMT

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/* Written  3:01 pm  Jan 22, 1993 by bpf@igc.apc.org in igc:reg.seasia */
/* ---------- "Appeal from Bangladeshi Buddhists" ---------- */
AN APPEAL TO HELP AND REHABILITATE THE BUDDHISTS 
AFFECTED BY COMMUNAL DISTURBANCES.

As a consequence of destructions of historic Babri Mosque in
Ayodhya, India, by the Hindu fundamentalists, communal
disturbances flared up all over this subcontinent, resulting in
colossal loss of human lives and properties.

On the 11th and 12th December 1992, a group of miscreants
numbering 400/500 attacked the innocent Buddhist Monks and
villagers at Matain under Senbagh Police Station in Noakhali
District. They caused heavy damage to the only Buddhist temple,
looted away the properties and broke into pieces statues of Lord
Buddha. The miscreants injured the villagers, looted away the
house-hold properties including cash, ornaments, paddy,
furniture, cattle, and set on fire the dwelling houses, kitchen,
and cowsheds of the villagers, and rendered them completely
shelterless without having any food and clothings in this winter
season. About 200 people of 30 houses have been passing their
days in great miseries and the condition of the Children are more
serious for want of proper food and medicine.

Just after the occurrence, the "Young Men's Buddhist Association"
"(YMBA), Comilla, Bangladesh with their limited resources rushed
to the affected village and tried to succor the distress of the
people by distributing food, clothes, medicine, cash, etc.

The extent of damaged will be about Tk. 50,000,000 (fifty lac).
So far, no substantial help has been received by them from the
government or other donor agencies.

Therefore, this appeal is made to all for immediate help to the
affected villagers.

May all beings be happy,
Ven. Shilabhadra Bhikku
Secretary General

For more information- contact:
 YMBA
Baraigaon Kanaka Chaitya Vihar
P.O. Bhora Jagatpur
Laksam, Comilla
Bangladesh

Pubali Bank Ltd.
Daulatgonj Branch
A/C. No. 5698


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From: an4234@anon.penet.fi
Subject: ethnic diversity in the armed forces (was Re:supercomputer ..)
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Newsgroup soc.culture.indian, 101624

Subject: Re: Super computers from India...way to GO guys

>In article <1993Jan26.153645.10113@bnr.ca> uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2) writes:
>>I hope some a day a Muslim can become the Commander-in-Chief of the
>>Indian Army (this will be another of the great idea for secularism).
>>
>  We have already had at least one I can think of : Air Chief 
>Marshal I.H. Latif.  At one stage during his tenure, there was a Hindu 
>at the head of Army, Muslim at the head of Air Force and a Christian 
>at the head of Navy.  Obviously, they used to be called Amar Akbar 
>Anthony.  Can anyone remember the names of the other two ?  This
>was sometime during 1980-84.
>                                                Srinivas
>

 Was it Malhotra as Chief of Army and Rodriguez as Navy chief ?
 Come to think of it that was something to be proud of.
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From: srsurapa@mtu.edu (Surapanani)
Subject: Re: The Wall ------  A POEM
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:56:19 GMT
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In article <1993Jan27.063933.18601@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, srsurapa@mtu.edu (Surapanani) writes:
> 
>             The Wall
> 
> 
>      The cowboy gazes at the wall
>          not the great wall of China
>          or the wall of Pink Floyd's
>          it's the wall built around us
>          in the form of religion
>          creed and constitution
> 
> 
>      The eighties have come and gone
>          so did the red wall of Russian communism
>          and the pink wall separating Germany
>          from east and west
> 
> 
>      As the wall of red shattered
>          so did the shackles of oppression
>          but the menace of religion
>          lay intact and deadly
>          as the blood spilled and splattered
>          from Bosnia to Hercegovnia
> 
> 
>      The rape of Bosnia continues
>          with pillage and plunder
>          as the red wall shattered
>          without any cover
>          to the menace bigger than
>          either creed and constitution
> 
> 
>      Religion, the wall of no color
>          with heads and fangs of different color
>          one shading the other
>          with its venom and serum
>          showering death and doom
>          on people of all color
> 
> 
>       As the wall of pink shattered
>          so did the shackles of constitution
>          as oppression gave way to freedom
>          with the fall of communism
>          and rise of capitalism
> 
> 
>       The wall of pink did shatter
>          the menace of constitution
>           but not the menace of creed
>          as the skin heads and Nazi
>          rise on the harmless refuge
> 
> 
>       Religion, the wall of no color
>          it can be shaped as a
>          Temple or Tomb
>          depends on how we
>          build the wall
>          from the bricks of all color
> 
> 
>       My India,
>          from the snow banks of Kashmir
>          to the sand banks of Kanyakumari
>          from the turbans of Punjab
>          to the tigers of Bengal
>          with the same creed and constiution
>          of shades of brown, black and fair
>          and freedom of liberty
> 
> 
>       Religion, the wall of no color
>          to be build from the foundations
>          of bricks of all color
>          from Hindu, Muslim
>          Sikh, Jew, Christian
>          Buddha and Zoroastrian
> 
> 
>       The cowboy dreams of the day
>          when peace and tranquility
>          gains the upper hand
>          over discord and disharmony
>          as the materialism and spirituality
>          goes hand in hand
>          with the bricks of all color
>          laying foundations to shape 
> 
> 
>     " The Temple of Love"
> 
> 
> 
>                                Srini Surapanani
> 
> 
>        (The Cowboy from the land of holy cows and magic fakirs)
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From: Sanjay.Gupta@launchpad.unc.edu (Sanjay Gupta)
Subject: Need company for visit to Montreal for H1...
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:59:15 GMT


I am planning a visit to Montreal around Jan31 for H1 visa. Anyone
interested in going along, please get in touch with me via e-mail or phone.

Sanjay Gupta

e-mail : sgupta@picasso.ocis.temple.edu
phone: 215-871-0430


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From: aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana)
Subject: Re: Songs of the Subcontinent?
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:42:40 GMT

Lynn.E.Noel@dartmouth.edu (Lynn E Noel) writes:

>%  songs written in English in India during the British Raj
>%Jwork songs of British workers in India, or of workers in colonial
>activities 
>%Jsongs that mention India as a destination or an origin, or contain
>Indian placenames
>%Jmodern songs that deal with colonial society in British India
>%Jsongs in the Indian tradition(s) that touch on the colonial period

>If there are empty categories, why? RSVP to end our bafflement! Thanks.
>Please e-mail me directly as I don't check some of these lists
>regularly.

For the benefit of the net, I will respond here and then reply by
e-mail directly as you have asked.

Unlike some of the colonial possessions in the west that Great
Britain had (US is one), India was a prize that was gotten through
intense competition with the French, the Dutch, and the Spaniards...
the means were not altogether above board either.  If you do not
find songs commerrating such memories as evocatively as you ask for,
look for the opposite namely songs of freedom and self-rule -- they
reflect the kind of western man that Indians came to know:  a
proponent of apartheid (yes, the analogy holds),  a cultivator of
self-aggrandizing imperialism, and a suppressor of Indian thought
and culture.  Also please remember that if you can't find songs
(which are mostly evocative of happy memories, mostly), then at the
very least you'll find tons of dark prose.  

>Lynn E. Noel
>Research Fellow, Atlantic Centre for the Environment
>lynn.e.noel@dartmouth.edu

>"The care of rivers is not a question of rivers, but of the human
>heart."  Tanaka Shozo

[] Regards,                                              _  _______  _ 
Aayush Asthana|Tech. Transfer & |Industrial Technology  [_][_     _][_]
-- aa@iti.org |Commercialization| Institute,           [~~~] [   ] [~~~]
     *Disclaimer: Standard*     | Ann Arbor, MI 48103  [___] [___] [___] 
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From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:18:05 GMT

(Samit Banerjee) writes:

>Oh thank you. You are so humble and gracious. Anyway, to avoid being 
>Nimmalaed, you should also point out that I am always right and that I can
>never be wrong. That itself confers no immunity, but on the other hand
>you might just get away with it.

Thank you very much.  Maybe I am pushing my luck here, but I am praying
your generosity and magnanimity continue to hold.

>As far as I remember, he said Hindus cannot BUY property in Kashmir, 
>although I would have preferred that he use the more generic Indian
>term. In any case, article 370 which went into effect in 1948-49
>prevents people from the rest of the country transacting in real estate
>Kashmir, unless they can prove that they are residents of the state.
>Considering that Hindus comprise roughly 30% of a 10 miilion population
>in J&K, the remaining 600 odd million Hindus (or 800 million Indians) are
>ineligible to own property. In short, the bulk of the Indian (and by default)
>the Hindu population is constitutionally barred from owning real estate
>in Kashmir. Hence, I dont see what you are getting at.

What I am getting at is deliberate misrepresentation of the truth with
the intention of inciting ill-will towards muslims.  The constitution 
says non-kashmiris cannot own property in Kashmir, period.  In my book 
saying anything else is a lie.  Barring non-kashmiris from buying prop 
is as unfair to a muslim non-kashmiris as it is to hindu non-ks.  Extending 
your line of reasoning (the default bit) would make the adjective Indian 
useless.  Because, by default the Indian population is hindu.  And so 
henceforth we could refer to Indians as Hindus and not Indians.  

Particularly in this charged atmosphere, misrepresenting the truth in
this manner is at best irresponsible, and more likely malicious.

>If the above paragraph dosen't educate, please let me know.

Unfortunately, the wrong kind of education.

>Maybe and may be not. Depends on wether it's your perception that I have an
>imaginary axe to grind.

Again, irrelevant in either case.

Sanjoy Ghosh
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:00:11 CST
From: <U28698@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ********SALMAN RUSHDIE************

About this 'rushdie' guy, I asked him what he, being Salman Rushdie, talked abo
ut on a specific episode of a specific television show on a specific day.  The
answer was very obvious, but our little chap couldn't answer me.  Oh well, look
s like a guy trying to appear witty, but failing miserably.
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From: pinto@enuxva.eas.asu.edu (Kevin A. Pinto)
Subject: Re: Some of Rajeev Gowda's actual views on Ayodhya ...
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:05:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.163850.15432@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish) writes:
> 
>     In 1855, Hindu-Muslim clashes erupted over shrine. But the
>     dispute was resolved temporarily by erecting a wall around 
>     the disputed structure. In the rebellion of 1857, the near-
>     defunct Muslim dynasties tried to curry favor with the Hindus
>     in order to launch joint effort to re-estiblish their rule.
>     The Nawab promised to give the Hindus the Ram Janma Bhoomi
>     site back, in an effort to quench their anti-Muslim animosity
>     and redirect their attention towards the new common enemy
>     from Britain. This is the only instance in modern history
>     when Muslims offered concessions to Hindus. But this promise
>     never materialized.
> 
For the simple reason that the concerned Nawab was one of the losers of the
War and was hanged by the British as soon as they laid their hands on
him.

Regards,


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From: an7384@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Test, AA's Approval Requested
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:10:51 GMT

X-Anon-To:soc.culture.indian


Dear SCI Star Chamber (Aayush Asthana, Grand Wizard ),

As per your request of restricting this newsgroup to the standard cultural
FAQ's under the threat of complaints to system administrators, I wish to
submit the following article for your approval.  I have tried to make it
conform to the guidelines you have autocratically created.  Therefore you
will find this post quite bland and inert in order to be inoffensive.
Please signal your approval with a simple initial (AA).

an7384_________________________________________________________________________


This is a test, please ignore.  I would have posted it on alt.test, or
misc.test, but SCI is often used for such messages.  So I thought
test messages were actually a part of the acceptable SCI themes that the
commander of the SCI net-police had so eloquently outlined.  I think it is a
good idea to restrict this newsgroup to approved posts.


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From: uipooper@bcars123.bnr.ca (UI Pooper 2)
Subject: Re: Hindus to be blamed for spread of Islam
Organization: bnr.ca
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:35:06 GMT

Did you ever think of others (incl. Hindus) who may not
like all the noise, smoke and chanting in bad musical tastes
or everyone must be subjected to this hulla-goola...God is
is in our Hearts not on some street corners.		

By the same token I would like loudspeakers banned from Temples,
Mosques and Gururdwaras...pray in peace (and quite) dear brothers	
sisters.
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From: an5039@anon.penet.fi (Lizard King)
Subject: Re: Teach me Gujrati? - soc.culture.indian #68757
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:55:07 GMT

In article <30534@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, mshah@cs.arizona.edu (Munil A. Shah) writes:
|> In article <tracey-260193101910@129.83.62.139>, tracey@mitre.org (Tracey A. Harwood) writes:
|> > 
|> > I am in desperate need of a native speaker of Gujrati-- I don't know how to
|> > spell it, only pronounce it.  I'm located in the Boston area, but to me
|> > that encompasses a very wide area!
|> >
|> 
|> 	It is Gujarati and not Gujrati at the first place..
|>  

What is your problem? Someone asks a perfectly reasonable question and
your response is to criticize them! By the way, it is "in the first
place", not "at the first place".

Words in different languages are usually translated into English in
a variety of fashions. You cannot claim that your translation of
Gujarati is the correct one.
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From: mkumar@slate.mines.colorado.edu (KUMAR MAHESH )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: SHER TIME.
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:59:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

hwhfac@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
: 
: 
: SOHBAT MEIN GEER KE NA PADI HO YE KHOO,
: 
: DENE LAGE HAI BOSE, BAGAIR ILTEJA KIYE.
: 
: 	She must have surely picked up this habit in the company of others,
: 
: 	She has started giving kisses without being asked for.
: 
: 
: 
: ZID KI HAI AUR BAAT, MAGAR WOH BURI NAHEEN,
: 
: BHOOLE SE USNE SAIKADON WAADE VAFA KIYE.
: 
: 
: 	Stubbornness is another thing, otherwise she is not bad,
: 
: 	Even out ot forgetfulness she has kept many of her promises.
: 
: 
: 
: WAHEED.


Jawab Hazir hai.

	Hum t'oo tehray Ajnabi itni Mulaqatoon k baad
	Phir kaab Baney Gay Aashna kitni madaratoon k baad

	Saachai choop naheen sakti banawat k usuloon say
	Khushboo AA naheen sakti kabhi kagaz k phoolon say

   
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From: an8286@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: Roomate Wanted for Sreehari Nimmala
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:17:25 GMT

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>
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>Yours for ever,
>
>Sreehari Nimmala
>
I have recently moved to the United States from Canada and am seeking new
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From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish)
Subject: U.S. ambassador to Bharat??
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:39:23 GMT


Yesterday, U.S. ambassador to Bharat, Thomas Pickering, was named as
the ambassador to Russia. So, who will be the next U.S. ambassador
to Bharat?

My guess is:  Stephen Solarz.

What do you think?

-- Girish.


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From: gupta@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Sanjay K. Gupta)
Subject: History Has To Be Rewritten
Status: OR
Apparently-To: alt-hindu@uunet.uu.net
Originator: editor@rbhatnagar
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Billerica, Mass. (USA)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:49:31 GMT
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   We, on the net, try to see history from the view point of being an engineer
   or scientist. With this mindset the problem is that we tend to see history
   as something sacred and inviolable. Throughout the history of history it 
   has always been written to suit the political masters of the day. 
   Has the history writing changed? Probably not.

   Aren't we told in the books  of history that the best thing that could have 
   happened to India that Nehru became primeminister? Aren't we told that the 
   best option  available before the Congress leaders in 1947 was to partition
   the country? Didn't last year communist historians of JNU gladly accepted
   to write history of independent India at Arjun Singh's bidding? 
   If you don't believe me go and read the history written by these modern day 
   court historians sitting in JNU that Savarkar was rank communalist and Tilak
   came under the influence of communal ideology and that Patel and Tandon 
   were kept under check by Nehru and Gandhi and that Moplah rebellion was 
   just an uprising against rich peasants.  Why do we have to read in the 
   books of history that it was Sepoy mutiny in 1857 which Savarkar rightly 
   proclaimed was our first war of Indian Independence. 

    The casualty in the writing and teaching of such concocted history has been
    not just Hindu nationalism but any thing and everything that is disliked
    by Congress and Communist historians. Here is what Sisir Kumar Bose, 
    Netaji's nephew and a key member of Netaji's Research Foundation, has to 
    say in the preface to his book: 
   "This concise biography of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose was originally written
   at the request of the Central Congress Centenary Celebration Committee for
  publication during the centenary celebrations of the Indian National 
   Congress.
   The book was however not published and the manuscript eventually returned 
   to the author." "It has become necessary and urgent to bring the facts of 
   history and Netaji's interpretation of them to the notice of general 
   reading public in India and abroad because of the blatant, shameful and
   persistent attempts by the power that be in the Establishment and the 
   academic world to privatise, monopolise and distort national history." 

   If history is about truth then let the truth from 'India wins freedom' come 
   to public so that people can know the view of the only 'nationalist' 
   Muslim, Congress has ever produced.

   Sanjay K. Gupta