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From: adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
Subject: Re: Packies, was Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:58:10 GMT

In article <zippy.726209756@berry.cs.brandeis.edu> zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts) writes:
>heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser) writes:
>
>>But Adam, what *supermarkets* ever sell liquor in Massachusetts? :-)
>>Maybe you're thinking of New Hampshire?  :-)
>
>Stah Mahket in Newton, the one over the Pike, sells alcohol.
>

Ditto for the Stop&Shop on Rte. 9 in Newton.  Bill, you must do your
shopping in a "dry" town. :-).
-- 
Adam Gaffin
Middlesex News, Framingham, Mass.
adamg@world.std.com
Voice: (508) 626-3968. Fred the Middlesex News Computer: (508) 872-8461.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: NE Telephone - admits overcharging
Keywords: corrupt capitalists
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:31:55 GMT

In article <sth.726861640@slipknot.mit.edu>
sth@slipknot.mit.edu (Scott Hannahs) writes:

>Just a follow up to the note I posted last week.  New England Telephone
>now admits (verbally) that they were miss-billing (read overcharging)
>everyone in my exchange.

At first, I said, I'll check that out on my two "special" lines w/Metro
Service (cpu and fax). I didn't see anything funny on the last two bills,
but this revelation has got me worried:

>I do not know how many other bills are incorrect only that calls from
>Jamaica Plain to the 353 exchange were (are?) billed at the local zone 1
>call rate and not the free local rate.

Now I'm worried. I live in JP, in the 524- exchange, and I wonder if I've
ever been affected. I'm going to have to look at all my old bills now. How
far back have you noticed this? Which exchange in JP are you in?

	-Kenny

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OSF, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142	+1 617 621 7306
kenny@osf.osf.org			OSF has nothing to do with this post.
	  Religion: The longest-running gag ever played on Mankind.
Newsgroups: ne.general,misc.invest
From: weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com (Matt Weiser)
Subject: Re: 401K--to rollover or not?
Organization: Martin Marietta WIS
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:21:37 GMT

In article <EVERETTM.93Jan4110358@noman.Cayman.COM>, everettm@Cayman.COM (Mark Everett) writes:

> If you take the distribution after 01 January 93 in the form of a check, 20% is
> withheld.  The administrator of whatever new plan you are in can send a request
> to the former plan for that 20%.  Of course, the easiest method is for the old
> plan to transfer the entire amount directly to the new plan, in which case no
> withholding is required.

What is there to keep someone from rolling it over directly into a IRA,
then withdrawing the amount, bypassing the 20% witholding?

Matt Weiser
weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com
Newsgroups: ne.general,analog.general
From: noam.levine@analog.com (Noam Levine)
Subject: Peking Tom Auto Rally
Originator: levine@bambam
Keywords: Discover New England......
Organization: Analog Devices, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:12:05 GMT


Yes folks, the people at the Worcester Area Sports
Car Club are at it again. For those of you who had
fun participating in the Turkey Chase in November,
here's another Rally opportunity. For those of you
who don't know what I'm talking about, read on:

The Worcester Area Sports Car Club* proudly presents:

Peking Tom

Sunday, January 24, 1993

Start: McDonald's, Auburn, MA
         Exit 9 off of I-290

End: May Ling's Chinese Restaurant,
         Webster, MA

Registration: 11:00 AM
First Car Off: 12:01 PM

Entry Fee: $10 for WASCC members / $15 non-members

Peking Tom will be a straightforward, easy to follow
Time/Speed/Distance (TSD) rally of approximately 60
miles over some of central Massachusetts' finest
back roads.

For the un-initiated, a TSD rally is an automotive event
where teams consisting of a driver and navigator
go from point A to point B along a pre-determined
route. The object is to follow the route instructions
precisely, not to get lost, to complete each leg
of the journey as close to the ideal time as
possible, to enjoy the less-travelled parts of
the area, meet new people, and to HAVE FUN.
No special vehicle is required (I've seen
everything from pickup trucks to Lincolns
participate), and NO EXPERIENCE IS REQUIRED.
A novice Rally school will be conducted prior
to the start of the event (probably around 11:30).

FOR MORE INFO: contact the Rallymasters,
  Tom & Barb Ciesla at (508) 943-8918

or e-mail to me at noam.levine@analog.com

Hope to see everybody on the 24th.

-Noam

*The Worcester Area Sports Car Club is
a non-profit organization that strives to
provide New England residents the finest
automotive touring and exploration experiences 
possible. Join the fun.


+-------------------------------------------------------+
 Noam Levine              e-mail: noam.levine@analog.com
 Analog Devices           voice: 617.461.3474
 DSP Applications         fax: 617.461.3010
 3 Technology Way
 P.O. Box 9106
 Norwood, MA 02062-9106
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From: miket@frog.CRDS.COM (Michael C Tiernan)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Comedian comment. Was (NET: Reduce your monthly phone bill)
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:09:21 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Charles River Data Systems

miket@frog.CRDS.COM (Michael C Tiernan) writes:
>	You're thinking of Ruth Buzzi (sp?) from the old Laugh-In days.

	Ack-Thpppppt!  Sorry, I look stupid.  It's Lilly Tomlin.
	(I'll go to my room now....)
-- 
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: New England Telephone: Reduce your monthly phone bill
Organization: Software Tool & Die
	<PA_HCL.93Jan8185942@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu>
	<1993Jan09.052850.29591@gozer.mv.com> <BZS.93Jan9011937@world.std.com>
Distribution: ne
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:29:20 GMT

In the referenced article bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
<>> I also have two phone lines.
<>I have five.
<I have 107.

	You missed one and with the new one today that's 109.

	And I hate NET.

->Spike
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The Evil Fascist IRC Admins From Hell, Inc.
	<BETSYS.92Dec15150940@ra.cs.umb.edu> <BZS.92Dec15212827@world.std.com>
	<1992Dec17.153135.8027@dunsel.harvard.edu>
	<CKD.93Jan6220951@loiosh.eff.org>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:36:13 GMT

CKD> == Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org> 
DB> == Dave Borden <borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu>

 DB> What this city should do is allow private bus lines to run at night,
 DB> and in my opinion, in the daytime as well.  Why should the MBTA have a
 DB> monopoly on mass transit?

 CKD> Do they?  I seem to remember a Harvard-Longwood bus going up and
 CKD> down Mass Ave a few times ("MetroBus"?)  Does that still run?  Who
 CKD> runs it?  It wasn't a T bus, that's for sure.

From the latest (Orange) "Car Free in Boston" (I can't recommend this
book enough):

Chapter 19 "Other Trains, Ferries, Buses"

MetroBus
Cambridge-Longwood Medical Area
Cambridge: Harvard Sq, Mass Ave. Central Sq, MIT; to Fenway: Ave. Louis
Pasteur, Longwood Ave.; some night trips via Brookline: Coolidge Corner.
Tickets must be purchased in advance at Harvard, MIT, or Longwood
Galleria. Limited to students, faculty, and staff of Harvard, MIT, and
other Medical Area institutions.
M-F rush hours: every 10 minutes
Midday: every 30 minutes
Nights and Saturdays: every hour
Trip Time: 25 min

And in the Index:
MetroBus: 732-2384

(as for who it's owned by, don't ask me!)

--Helen
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From: Paco Ojeda <ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: New England Telephone: Reduce your monthly phone bill (Lili Tomlin)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 14:27:08 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
Distribution: ne
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In article <106445@bu.edu> Bill Heiser, heiser@acs.bu.edu writes:
>Speaking of the phone company ... anyone know if there are tapes
>avaialble somewhere of Lilly Tomlin's (is that her name?) phone
>company skits?

I recently got a mailing from her production company advertising her
videotapes. If there's enough interest, I'd be glad to post the details
to the net.

Paco

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From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:05:08 GMT
Reply-To: borden@m5.harvard.edu
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

In article <1993Jan6.171638.14756@osf.org> kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup) writes:
>
>In article <PSHUANG.93Jan5193646@ninja.mit.edu>
>pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping-Shun Huang) writes:

>>I had *NEVER* heard of the left lane referred to as "the passing lane".

>In article <1993Jan6.163909.15020@m5.harvard.edu>
>borden@m5.harvard.edu writes:

>>That was the convention as I understood it, growing up in New Jersey.  That
>>rule (actually law, at least in some states) has been conveniently forgotten
>>by many drivers who like to drive 15 - 30 mph over the speed limit...

>Not doubting you, but it's funny you mention that, coming from Jersey, and
>all. Every time I go thru Jersey, it amazes me to see how *everybody*
>immediately gravitates to the leftmost lane, no matter what. I was able to
>do a sustained 80 because the two right lanes on the GSP were empty, while
>the leftmost lane was moving at 60-65. Jersey drivers come here (as evidenced
>by plates, anyway) and do the same thing.

I know, it's really baffling.  I've never done a sustained 80, though (maybe
because the cars I've owned so far in my life haven't been capable of it).

    - Dave Borden
      borden@m5.harvard.edu
From: harley@shr.dec.com (Harley Privitera)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: New England Telephone: Reduce your monthly phone bill
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:03:12
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: ne
	<106444@bu.edu> <1993Jan11.154543.22434@frog.CRDS.COM>
Reply-To: harley@shr.dec.com (Harley Privitera)
NNTP-Posting-Host: alphabits.shr.dec.com
In-reply-to: miket@frog.CRDS.COM's message of 11 Jan 93 15:45:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.154543.22434@frog.CRDS.COM> miket@frog.CRDS.COM (Michael C Tiernan) writes:

   In article <106444@bu.edu> heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) writes:
   > [...]
   > of the comedian (her name escapes me right now) that did the phone
   > company skits...
   >  ... "we don't care.  We don't have to, we're the phone company!"
   >  ... "are you calling from the number from which I'm speaking?"

	   You're thinking of Ruth Buzzi (sp?) from the old Laugh-In days.

My guess is Lillie Tomlin...

/harley
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From: tvatne@pearl.tufts.edu (Tom Vatne)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops
Summary: Vermont driving laws
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:45:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan6.175755.12584@athena.mit.edu>
, mondol@mtl.mit.edu (mark k. mondol) writes...
>>
>>In article <PSHUANG.93Jan5193646@ninja.mit.edu>
>>pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping-Shun Huang) writes:
>>
>>>I had *NEVER* heard of the left lane referred to as "the passing lane".
> 
>In Vermont they do have what I call sane laws (having grown up in Michigan
>the home of excellent driving :)).  There is a sign on every entrance ramp
>to the freeway stating that turn signal must be used when changing lanes.
>Of this much I am sure, I think that they also mention using the left lane
>for passing only.  

I'm not sure what exactly the signs on the entrance ramps say in Vermont,
but having grown up and learned to drive there I know that I was taught
that you were supposed to stay in the right lane unless you were passing
someone. I'm sure it was the law, because I remember when I first heard
that it was legal to pass on the right in MA, and I thought that was neat,
as passing on the right was (and probably is still) illegal in VT.

Thomas Vatne, Sys. Mgr.         tvatne@pearl.tufts.edu
Psychology Dept.                All opinions expressed are those of Tufts
Tufts University                Univerity, except when they're not, which
Medford, MA 02155               I guess is probably most of the time.
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Salvucci (was: flavors of MA cops)
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:45:28 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <1993Jan11.161351.29125@odi.com>, ed@odi.com (Ed Schwalenberg) writes:
|> In article <C0Hs7t.79w@world.std.com> tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt) writes:
|> The "hero" of this book [Rites of Way, by Alan Lupo]
|> is Fred Salvucci, then a young lawyer.
|> Now that he's Transportation Secretary, he's on the other side of
|> the fence. 

He's not the transportation secretary any more, hasn't been
since Weld was elected governor. 

The guy let too much power get to his head;  besides the 
Alewife proposal, he was also the man behind the Central
Artery "Scheme Z" proposal (also thankfully dead now).

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: djw@wang.com (David Weinstein)
Subject: Re: ne.personals?
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:11:59 GMT

sklarew@bass.bu.edu (daniel sklarew) writes:

>Given the apparent divesity of people in New England who are presently
>reading this newgroup, I wonder if we might get a ne.personals group
>going for further bavardage, etc. 

>Does  this  already  exist,   unbeknownst  to  me?  Anyone  out  there
>electroncally aware enough to set this up for us?


>					Thanks for the feedback,

>					Dann
>					No Signature



I vote YES for this group to be created.


Newsgroups: ne.general
From: eac@world.std.com (Eric A Cottrell)
Subject: Re: New England Telephone: Reduce your monthly phone bill
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:06:25 GMT

In <C0Juw2.IvH@jti.com> richb@jti.com (Richard Braun) writes:

>Actually I've found that measured service costs more than you might think.
>For a few months after I first moved to Somerville five years ago, I
>had unlimited-local service, thinking I didn't use the phone all that much
>so I didn't need Metropolitan service.

>What they nail you for is multiple message units and even toll fees whenever
>you call non-adjoining towns.  I was rather surprised to find that Canton
>was tariffed as a toll call from Somerville for measured and unlimited-
>local users, but as a local (free) call for Metropolitan service users.
>('twas a nasty surprise, too!)

I just recently got phone service. I call the world in Newton (Outside the
unlimited service area). Based on the rates in the phone book I figured it
would cost 67.00 or so to be on line 20 hours to the world (PAUnix site in
newton) if I have unlimited local service. It's all there in the phone book.
I found that most of my calls would be outside the local area, but within
Metro Boston so I spent the $24 bucks or so for Metropolitian.
73 Eric..   eac@world.std.com
From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: The Nazi regime and Martin Niemoeller
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:13:54 GMT
Organization: Mitech Corporation, Concord MA

Recently there have been a few messages on this group that
included a tagline with an incomplete version of the 
familiar Martin Niemoeller quote about why the Nazi regime was 
able to put him in a concentration camp; in short because no one was
left to defend him.

The reason Niemoeller ended up in the camps was that -he- spoke out
against the Nazis, but only after he failed to defend other people
who had spoken out against the Nazis before he decide to. 

Any willful editing or supression of part of this quote puts one in 
*very* bad company indeed. Does it not?

Here is the complete quote:

* In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak because *
*  I wasn't a Communist.  Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak   *
*  because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and      *
*  I didn't speak because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the *
*  Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.             *
* Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to speak up.      *
*  Rev. Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)                                       *
From: kgorman@star-trek.bbn.com (Karen Gorman)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Packies, was Re: flavors of MA cops: what the hell is the registry police?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 17:34:39 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: kgorman@BBN.COM (Karen Gorman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: archive.bbn.com
Keywords: Beantown, aliens, and pickles.


In article <1993Jan7.144304.17478@osf.org> bsmith@crustacean.osf.org
(Bruce Smith) writes:
>In article <106313@bu.edu> heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) writes:

>>Seriously though, I agree - Western Mass is more like upstate NY than like
>>a part of Massachusetts.
>>
>Western Massachusetts is just another part of the state. Eastern Massachusetts,
>on the other hand, is more like part of another planet.

Just because you feel like an alien living in this area doesn't mean we all
do.  I happen to be a native of Boston, and I like it here.  Maybe you
should try the western part of the state, you might feel right at home there.


Karen
kg@bbn.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: nad@tegra.com (Nancy Durgin)
Subject: Re: Channel 68
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:10:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.175322.6240@frog.CRDS.COM> miket@frog.CRDS.COM (Michael C Tiernan) writes:
>
>	One of the things that I thought of right away when I saw the
>	snow was that at the first of the year they were closed for
>	business.  I don't think that the church who owns the channel
>	has any money left.  (They were in the news QUITE a bit about
>	hitting hard times.)

Yeah, I was afraid of that, too.  And this was just after they had
revised their programming to finally show some interesting stuff again
(for "interesting", read "reruns of old shows" ;-). 

I'm glad to hear that they will be back.

(Now if I can only convince them to run "Combat!" again...)

	Nancy

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From: limey@hri.com (Craig Hughes)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Home Alarm Systems
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:25:35 GMT
Reply-To: limey@hri.com
Distribution: ne
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <1ibumnINNhgr@thor.genrad.com>, rep@thor.genrad.com (Pete Peterson) writes:
 [ disucssion about using auto-dialer to call you when the alarm goes off ]
|> 
|> It would seem that this only works if your phone service is through some
|> direct microwave link.  I can't understand how people manage to sell alarm
|> systems that rely on the use of standard telephone lines.  Would any
|> self-respecting burglar neglect to disconnect the phone lines before
|> entering the house?
|> 	(508)369-4400 x2478; Home: (508)256-5829 (Chelmsford, MA)

I know someone who has an ADT security system in their home. Apparently
cutting the phone line will cause the alarm to be activated, and the
monitoring station to be notified. Does anyone know how this is done?
Obviously it can't be done via the phone line!

(Their systems also dial in to the house once a week somehow to check the
status of the system. Any nasty error conditions will result in a service
call)

--craig

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From: jess@miracle.com (Jessica Thornburg)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: New Cable Channels in Boston
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 14:08:45 EDT
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

Paco Ojeda <ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
>Has everybody (in the Boston area) noticed how Cablevision of Boston
>started carrying the Sci-Fi, Commedy and Cartoon channels as of January
>1st? The only problem is that neither Cablevision (through their monthly
>magazine or through their televised ever-so-slow scrolling schedules) nor
>TV Guide have schedules for these channels.
>
>Bummer...
>
>Paco
>
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Yup, and have you seen the advertisements on the Sci-fi channel for their 
magazine, which costs something like 25 bucks for a year, which does happen to
include a schedule of their broadcasts??  I think it's absurd to pay that much
just so you can have a schedule of the Sci-Fi channel.  I wish that they would
put it in TV Guide!!  Interesting, a lot of areas don't get the Prevue Guide
thing.  I wish Framingham Cablevision did, because it isn't a bad thing to have.

J.T.


The BORG are DEAD!!!!
Long live the Federation!!!
From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: flavors of MA cops
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:57:00 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1ifsnnINNipq@thor.genrad.com> rep@thor.genrad.com (Pete Peterson) writes:
>half-mile.  Gives you just enough distance to get up to a slow cruise then
>you slow down for the next toll.  Hardly seems worth shifting out of first

Oh, but it's cheaper that way!  You only have to pay a "little bit" each
time :-) :-)



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