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From: cwoei@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (Eric Chen)
Subject: Schedual Wanted
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:44:23 GMT


Hi Netters :
    If anybody have the schedual of the remain games, please mail me a copy.
    Thanks for ur help.

   Eric Chen  Jan/6/1993
   cwoei@uz.nthu.edu.tw
   Dept. Materials Sci. & Eng.
   Natl. Tsing Hua Univ.
   Hsinchu, Taiwan, R.O.C.
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From: ajj@zycor.lgc.com (Andrew Jackson)
Subject: Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFFALO!
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:35:27 GMT


I saw most of the game on T.V. I did NOT see any mass exodus, even
when the Oilers went up 35 - 3. The fans were staying to the bitter
end despite the cold (having lived in upstate New York - it can and
was cold). Now those are REAL fans!

I am not particularly fond of the Bills, but I do have a tremendous
amount of respect for the amount of HEART that the team and their fans
possess. I have rarely watched a place go so totally berserk as when the
Bills pulled within 35 - 17 - the place was absolute bedlam! (BTW
I have stereo hooked up to my T.V.). Wish I was there. Perhaps someone
who was there could describe the atmosphere.

After the Oilers' second loss to Pittsburgh, a fan called in during the
post-game talk show and summed up the problems the Oilers have had for
years in one word: H E A R T! Yeah, we can mention all we want about
how the Oilers relaxed and choked, but the Bills never would have
begun the comeback without heart.

And the blood letting is in full swing in Houston. The sport radio
call-in shows and the papers are getting vicious!

Cheers!

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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: San Fancisco vs the NFC East
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:13:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.141132.9268@hellgate.utah.edu> Tom Wolf,
twolf@cs.utah.edu writes:
>I think you forgot one other arguement:
>
>The NFC west combined achieved the highest win percentage against teams
from
>other divisons. The NFC East, the so-called toughest division, only
placed
>third. I think you are living in the past in thinking the NFC East is the
>toughest divison. Maybe it will be next year.
>
>Tom Wolf

Here's another argument:

NFC divisional playoffs- Skins at SanFran

			      Eagles at Dallas

	Do I detect a theme developing in the playoffs

Please don't misconstrue this as a shot at the Niners, just the rest of
the NFC!  (:

FRANK
__________________________________________
Go 'Canes & Cowboys                  Cowboys 24 -- Iggles 17
frank@wanda.princeton.edu
__________________________________________
From: jasmith@admin1.memst.edu (John)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Thoughts and predictions?????
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:21:32 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

Wildcard games are over and my predictions and thoughts have been totally 
demolished.  Kansas City who I had one though had the capablity of going 
to the SuperBowl have finished the season with out scoring on San Diego.
Houston who had been dealt all the right cards in a game against Buffalo
finds the Bills holding a better hand.  Philly over New Orleans one of
the only games that I had though of right didn't play like I thought.
Washington after two loss turns there team around 24-7 over the Vikings.

NFC Games.                          AFC Games.

   Washinton       14                  San Diego   27
at San Francisco   31               at Miami       17

   Philadelphia    27                  Buffalo     10
at Dallas          24               at Pittsburgh  31

San Francisco should dominate the Skins offensively.  Young should toss three 
touchdowns.  Rypien should continue on his subpar season.  In Texas Staduim,
Philadelphia will hold off the Cowboys.  San Diego looks good to advance over
the Dolphins.  The dreams should end this week at Pittsburgh for the Bills.

   Philadelphia   24                   San Diego   14
at San Francisco  28                at Pittsburgh  17

San Francisco is looking too strong right now for anyone to get, but Philly
looks like they might have shaked off the end of season problems.  The NFC is
a tight one.  Give the NFC crown to either San Francisco, Philly, or Dallas.
But right now SF looks to be in the driver seat.  Ok, all you San Diego fans
your team is beginning to make me a believer, but you'll really need a romp of
Miami before I go with the Chargers for the SuperBowl.  My opinion is that the
Chargers and Steelers are the only two teams good enough to make the Superbowl 
in the AFC with slight edge going to Pittsburgh.

                         S U P E R B O W L
            San Francisco   45       Pittsburgh  14

My opinion is that the NFC still looks too strong for the AFC to contend with.
San Francisco, Philadelphia or Dallas in a blowout of San Diego or Pittsburgh.
The AFC has shown me much this year.
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From: alaw@uucp (Alvin W. Law)
Subject: Re: The Best of Teams, the Worst of Teams
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 06:46:33 GMT
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jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>EXACTLY!  Some netters were furious when the Niners "ran up the score"
>against the Broncos in their last SB! Yeah right. NEVER let up in big 
>time games! Go for the kill and then back up and run over them again is my
>credo. This is the NFL and there is always the chance the "losing"
>team can come back. I think next years games will result in
>more blowouts and none of this, let's back off, we are ahead
>35-3 stuff. The BILLS are to be commended for their resurrection!

I don't think there is really a case of "running up the score" in
professional sports.  It would be more humiliating to the opposing
team if the quarterback starts kneeling down on 1st and 10 in the
third quarter if they are leading 41-3!!!
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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Steelers
Organization: Clark University
Date: 6 JAN 93 03:13:01 GMT

In a previous article, mt0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mohd Z. Tuah) wrote:
>I'm not a Buffalo fans but I think the Steelers may have problems
>containing Beebe and Thomas.  After an incredible comeback last week, 
>look for the Buffaloes to win.  Steelers secondary is not as good as
>many people thought.

Normally I'd dispute regarding your comment about the secondary, but they
have been burned by the Bills in the last meetings. You can bet they'll be
prepared for the no-huddle this time around.

I wouldn't be so sure about a Buffalo win. They better capitalize on their
possessions, because they may not get many if Bennett doesn't play. I think
Cornelius is the true star of this defense, despite all the talk about 
Bruce Smith. Remember, the Oilers barely needed a running game to rack up
points in the first half on Sunday.

-		
Bart "Webb" Tilney	
Email: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: End Zone Dances (Re: TOP TEN MADDENISMS)
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:44:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan12.154421.12482
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan9.065359.22906@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>
>Oh, and then the segment on the All-Madden show a few years ago with
>Jerry Rice and M.C. Hammer. Hammer was teaching Jerry a new dance step
>to do in the end zone. Hammer said that next he was going to teach Madden
>how to do it. So Madden got the clicker out and replayed the segment.
>The dance step had Hammer keeping his right foot planted the whole time,
>but the rest of his body was all over the place. But his right foot never
>moved. So Madden's commentary was "OK, you see the right foot; I've got
>that part down. That part I can do. I don't have any problem with that.
>This other stuff, forget about it. But I can do the right foot".
>
This reminds me of something funny I saw on TV yesterday.  I was home
sick and didn't get Good Morning America turned off in time.  In D.C.,
Live with Regis and Kathy Lee is on next.  They do a little chat about
the playoff games over the weekend and they show a clip of some guy 
strutting around in the end zone.  Kathy Lee says she doesn't like that
sort of stuff and that Frank doesn't either.  She says whenever he sees
it when they're watching at home he says, "They should act like they've
been there before."

I thought it was pretty funny.

schalene
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills 24, Steelers 3
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:29:41 GMT
Organization: UB

The Bills win another one and become only the second team to play in the
AFC Championship game three years in a row (Raiders were the first). Thanks
to all of you who picked the Steelers to win this one. Make sure you pick
the Bills to lose next week. JPG, you're wrong two weeks in a row. Go for
three!
--Jim
From: scott@ne3005.reston.ingr.com (Scott Gentry)
Subject: Re: Hold your head high, Washington
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Reston, VA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 13:40:06 GMT

mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

[stuff that I agree with deleted]

>   It took the league's best team a tough home game to finally end the
>Redskins' season. 

Best team?  They've got the best record, but I have my doubts.  Against
the Cowboys, they're going against a defense that on the average allowed
teams to get half as many yards/game as the niner offense averaged.  When
it comes down to defense against offense, the defense (barring turnovers)
usually wins.  

> For all the talk that can be done about bad plays, field
>conditions, and so forth for both teams, the truth is this:  is was a great
>ball game. 

I don't think so.  I think it was one of sloppiest games I've seen this 
season.  In no way would a game with eight turnovers a great game.

> The 'SKins gave it their all, and nearly made it.

That much is true.  The thing the skins did was expose the niners for
what they are:  A team with slow linebackers/DB's and a small defensive line
that can't really stop a team with a large offensive line.

I'm a Cowboys fan, but I'm objective.  This weeks game between the Cowboys
and Niners will hinge on three things:  1) Can the Cowboys handle the 
sloppy Candlestick field, and 2) Can the Niners stop Emmitt Smith and the
Cowboy passing game, and 3) can the Cowboys shut down the Niners air game.


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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Young VS. Montana (My Thoughts)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:23:51 GMT

In article <athos-120193152945@athos.apple.com> athos@apple.com (Rick Eames) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.214210.23067@leland.Stanford.EDU>,

[back and forth about whether Montana or Young is the bigger dick...]

Give it a rest, guys.  Montana and Young happen to be in the somewhat
unfortunate situation of being on the same team with one another.  They've
both proven that they're among the league's elite and deserve to start,
but given the Niners' desire for depth at all positions, along with a
lot of overlap in their careers, they both aren't going to be happy.

And the mediots know that, and it sells papers, so they're going to
play it to the hilt.  Unless Joe or Steve says something like, "Yeah -
I've always known he was better than me, and I'll *love* riding the
pines for another couple of years," it's going to make headlines and
be portrayed in the most sensational manner possible.

All in all, both guys are displaying what I consider remarkable
restraint.  As I said at the start of the year, it's a very imperfect
situation, and there may be no right answer.  But at least both guys
can lay credible claim to the #1 job -- UNLIKE certain other QBs
in the league.  I almost puked when I read the Bubbly Blister's 
remarks about O'Donnell in the paper today.  "I can outrun him, and
I can out-throw him."  Well said, Bubby; too bad you couldn't win.
We Niner fans have it *so* good.
-- 
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SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Is the run-and-shoot finished?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 14:59:56 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
Distribution: world
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What I have heard since the Buffalo game on the radio shows... 

1. The R & S will stay.       (stupid move 1.)
2. Pardee will not be let go. (stupid move 2.)
3. The Special teams coach will probably be made the scapegoat, and fired.
4. Where was Lorenzo White in the second half ??????
5. People are fed up, they will cancel season tickets in droves. (smart move 1)
6. One Houston resident took his 9mm to the TV set in OT. 
7. Dallas has undisputed bragging rights of Texas.    (we new that all along)

Go Cowboys !!!
tim
From: markl@spuddy.uucp (Mark Liversedge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: He is alone (Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL)
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:27:58 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain

American football is *very* popular here in Britain, we play and watch
it, you would be suprised how knowledgable some of us Brits are...

This guy is alone, he probably posted this as a joke.

Personally, I prefer football to soccer, but that's just me.

One last thing, "real" men have nothing to prove.
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Still say Montana shouldn't replace Humpheries in SD?
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:00:15 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



In article <1993Jan12.001305.20602@pony.Ingres.COM> daveb@lotus (Dave Brower, 
BMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:
>
>
>I would *love* for the Lightening Bolt to come back, and was crushed
>when the Fish beat Fouts and Co. in that great game.  

Dude, the Fish lost that game in OT (41-38) after Winslow managed to block
a FG attempt by Miami.  Next week, the Chargers went to Cincy where they
promptly froze their collective balls off in subzero temperature leading to
the rout by the Cincy Bengals.


>I just think
>they need a 20th century passing attack to complement their great
>ground game to be a complete team.

They have one.  Miller leads the AFC in passing yards.  Humphries will 
certainly get better.  He's just too prone to throwing those darn gosh INTs.

>
>Some of my earlier comments where rhetorically harsh.  I was just
>trying to get into the general tone of discussion here.  Woof.  Woof.
>
>"I'm not really an opinionated a** sports-nut, but I can play one on the net."
>
>cheers
>-dB
>
>-- 
>Windows/NT - the VMS of the 90s

satish nair
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: A question for Eagle fans....
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:43:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Yeah I also used to listen to WIP until it occured to me that I never actually
learned anything by listening to them.  When the Eagles won, all they talked
about was how great the team was, how they'd win the Super Bowl, etc. but never
touched on anything which has to do with football (i.e. how does getting 
Walker open up their passing game? what sort of offensive scheme do they need
for the upcoming game, etc.). When the Eagles were losing they just came down
on them and started bashing everyone from Kotite to Randall but again, never
anything instructive. I seriously doubt that this is reflective of the
Philly media!

They remind me a lot of the MNF crew, willing to give their listeners exactly
what they want to hear but never educating anyone in the process.  

satish nair
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From: martens@lyre.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Another Mike for new Bears coach . . .
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:46:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.215524.8887@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>The perfect next coach for the Bears -- Lindy Infante.  He and Mikey 
>McCaskey would get along great!
>
>JGH


I'm kinda hoping the Bears hire Dan Devine or Bill Dooley myself.
-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: greg@puck.webo.dg.com ()
Subject: Re: THE RETURN OF CRAP FOOTBALL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 15:55:52 GMT
Reply-To: greg@puck.webo.dg.com
Organization: NSDD-X.500, Data General Corp.

>For the regular readers of this newsgroup, some of you might remember
>a couple a artilcles written intiled crap football, well it's back after
>a long absence.

DON"T BOTHER ANSWERING THIS GUY, it isn't worth it and the meaningless
argument will go on FOREVER.
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From: blah@maas-neotek.arc.nasa.gov (MJW/TWF)
Subject: Re: Bills-Oilers
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:03:28 GMT

In article <C0CCEw.JK9@acsu.buffalo.edu> ajay@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ajay Shekhawat) writes:
>kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
>
>>Boy what a choke job by the Hou defense. What a pathetic job at playing
>>zone defense. In a zone, you have to take away the deep stuff first, *then*
>>the short pass. To give up so many big plays deep in a zone is awful.
>
>>The Bills did catch 2 breaks;
>
>>o That catch by Beebe after he stepped out of bounds. The ump on the line
>>  was not looking at Beebe's position. Bad officiating, bottom line.
>
>Well, not quite. If the receiver is *pushed* out of bounds, he can come back
>and still remain an eligible receiver. This is akin to the receiver being
>pushed out of bounds when he goes up for a reception: if he would have landed 
>inside, it's a valid reception.

I thought this was just a college rule, and that in the NFL,
regardless of whether you are pushed out of bounds, or step out on
your own accord, you are no longer eligible to receive a (non-tipped,
of course) forward pass.  


Mark
Go Dallas
From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:43:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: TOP TEN MADDENISMS -----> HAMISH
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

More Madden:

A couple of years ago the '9ers were in a playoff game on New Year's
Day.  A camera panned the stadium and lingered on a couple in full
party garb, mugging it up with a couple of cocktail glasses.  Madden,
sounding quite irritated, said "They're just here for they party, they
don't know what's going on!  They don't know whether you stuff it or you
blow it up!"

- Gary Rosen
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Coughlin refuses NY Giants Coaching Position
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:58:15 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <Adriene_Nazaretian.90.0@QM.cis.YALE.EDU> Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!) writes:
>NEXT CANDIDATE:  Dave Wanstedt (sp?) (OOOOOOOH PULEEEEEZE GOD)  Quick, 
>someone help me think of a sacrifice we can offer to the Football Gods!
>ESPN says he is WAY interested!  Keeping my fingers crossed in little 
>knots, please, please, please.......  I dont think I can take the suspense 
>too much longer.

Unfortunately for Cowboy fans, this is all too true.  Johnson has been
grooming Wannstedt as a future head coach, making him the assistant head
coach as well as allowing him into the draft room.

Wannstedt has made no bones of the fact that his ambition is to be a head
coach, and it's my feeling that he'll be a damn good one -- just what we
need, a resurgent Giant team just as the Cowboys come into their own!
Maybe next year the NFC East can get all three wildcards.

Daniel Welch
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan )
Subject: FRUSTRATION LIST .... (REVISED)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:46:41 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Here is the latest "Frustration List" after hearing from other
fans.  It is ofcourse subject to further revision. And a big
thanx for all the e-mails.

A) HAVE BEEN TO THE SUPER-BOWL BUT NEVER WON IT
------------------------------------------------
1) Vikings   0-4  
2) Broncos   0-4
3) Bengals   0-2
4) Bills     0-2
5) Patriots  0-1
6) Rams      0-1
7) Eagles    0-1
-------------------------------------------------

Categories below are teams who have never even been to a Super Bowl
B) HAVE BEEN TO A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP BUT COULD NOT GO FURTHER
--------------------------------------------------
1) Browns    0-3
2) Oilers    0-2
3) Lions     0-1
4) Tampa Bay 0-1
5) Seahawks  0-1
4)Additions are welcome
---------------------------------------------------

C) HAVE NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME (NEVER BEEN TO A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP)
----------------------------------------------------
1) Saints     0-3
Additions and corrections are welcome
From: tsv@Unify.com (Tim Vannaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Running out the clock with the R&S
Date: 5 Jan 93 16:12:19 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

Don't forget that the first two Houston drives were just as long or 
longer than what a 'normal' offense would take.  You can  run the clock 
out w/ the R&S, but it is much more difficult than a conventional offense.

Tim.