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From: mhall@abc.comp.sys.mac.programmer (Matthew Hall)
Subject: Help on hard drive purchase wanted
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.wanted
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:40:26 GMT
X-Posted-From: abc.cs.oberlin.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hello-
	I am in the near future planning to buy a hard drive for my LC
- the 40 mg is way too meager.  Now I'm looking in the 105 range (and
with autodoubler, thats more like 200) and see that the prices are
about 350-500, and macuser rates some of the cheap ones as very good.
However, I have also seen stuff about Sysquest and bernoulli drives,
which though they cost about $500 (I think. I may be a little off.
But they are more expensive than a cheap hard drive) have fairly fast
access times,  considering my LC's enormous speed :-).  My question
is, would these removable media drives function well as a primary
storage drive.  If I can't use them to boot up, that's fine, I can use
my internal for that.  But if they are fast enough, and there are no
major problems (frequent data failures, hardware failures) it seems
like they would be ideal, since I could expand cheaply.

Any help appreciated
-matt hall
--
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"Life's good, but not fair at all"  -Lou Reed

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: (Q) Fax software -- BackFAX still alive
Keywords: FAX faxmodem modem software
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:25:13 GMT

Hi, all.  Ski season's coming!

 I have the opportunity to buy a used Apple fax modem with BackFAX version
1.01 (circa '88). Is there any reason why this modem and software are not
worth buying?
 Thanks in advance.

dale
parkyn@sfu.ca
From: rmason@ecst.csuchico.edu (Robert Mason)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: MAC IIsi benchmarks
Keywords: MACIIsi, benchmarks
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:00:26 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

I  need to compare the hardware performance of the MACII si with
(gulp!) some PC clones. I thought that one way to do it would be
whetstone, drystone, and video speed (in cps). Reason: I have
QA+ for the clones which does just that. If anyone has some info
on where I might get these numbers, or the actual benchmark codes,
please send me a note. If there is a better way to compare the hardware,
I would also appreciate your input. Thanks.
---
Bob Mason                          Internet: rmason@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu
Computer Science/Engineering       California State University, Chico
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mwelch@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Michael W.)
Subject: Connecting a Mac to a internal IDE drive on a PC?
Originator: news@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 11:54:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: September Films


Excuse me,

  Is it possible to connect the above chain? A friend
of mine is having to accuire an PC and would like to
be able to use some of the disk space with his Mac. I
believe the drive type is a Connor or Maxtor mid-tower
drive..whatever that stuff means.

Please send replies to: mcombs1@ithaca.bitnet

Thank you for your time,
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Michael Welch, University of Oklahoma, United States
mwelch@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu       mwelch@uokucsvx
"I never really wanted to.. ..but I wouldn't do it."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Hard drive case market stinks!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:19:00 GMT

patb@mcl.ucsb.edu (Pat Breitenbach) writes:
>I've been looking for a reasonably priced external hard drive case
>for awhile and can't believe the sad state of this market. I'm
>almost beginning to lose faith in this free market economy of ours.
>How can a) something so seemingly basic cost $100+ ? B) so few
*----
Considering that nice finished enclosures for electronics items
can easily cost $ 100 in single quantities... and then add in
the machining (holes for connectors, etc), power supply,
connectors, switches, and cost of assembly.  The $ 100 or so
for a decent enclosure and power supply doesn't seem out of line to me.
Of course there are alternatives - you can use an old XT enclosure,
for example.  Ugly, but very cheap.

>computter dealers have them (FRY's, Computerland, etc.) C) there
>be no pre-owned ones out there whatsoever?. Granted, I hear
*----
If you think $ 100 is outrageous, then you're not going to be willing
to make me a reasonable offer on any of mine, especially after
shipping charges are figured in.  If I might need one in the next
year or so (likely in my case), then it wouldn't make sense for me
to sell them for far less than my replacement cost.

>weird. CAn I ask what people do when they upgrade their internal
>hard drive. It sounds like people either throw them away or
>getting cruddy trade in value on them. I've got a bunch of hard drives
*----
It's like buying a car.  The trade-in is just part of the larger
deal, so it's not clear what you get for it.  On the other hand,
as somebody that buys occasional lots of surplus from dealers,
they're not offering "cruddy trade in value" because its
profitable.  On the contrary, they can't sell the used drives
for very much (no warranty, usually small (people are upgrading,
remember), older technologies.  The store would have to test the
drives, and erase them.  And then, whatever they sell would
cut into sales of new drives.  That's why they're usually happy
to sell them to me (or anybody else who will take the whole lot).
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PDA's are flop
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:06:49 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Ivan" == Ivan  (Nazedgi@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu)

Ivan> Pda's are the wave of the future and Apple is going to sell
Ivan> trillions of them.  Yeah, right.  I wonder how a computer is
Ivan> going to be able to recognize handwriting when people sometimes
Ivan> can't even recognize their own.  And even if the software would
Ivan> be so great that it could recognize all types of handwriting,
Ivan> why in the world would anyone want to buy a $900 notepad.  I
Ivan> don't know what John Sculley thinks, but this new Apple product
Ivan> sound like a Lemon to me.

Well, if you don't like it, don't buy one. From what I've seen of the
Newton I can assure you I want one. It won'r replace my desktop
SPARCstation or even my PB100. As to the prize, do you know the prize
of a good time manager/notebook/calendar?

As someone who goes to meetings and seminars and keep loosing track of
my notes and having trouble relating them to schedules and always has
problems with consistency of information, a good PDA would be a gift.
Handwriting recognition? Yeah, it nice, but for many things just
keeping the notes in bitmap form is quite OK. The more it can
recognize, the better.

Apple, if anyone, has the technology as well as the image to pull this
off. This could truly be the computer for the rest of us.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hise@iastate.edu (Allan R Hise)
Subject: Apple's 13" Monitor and 24-bit color
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:17:43 GMT

Can apple's 13" color monitor display 24-bit color, assuming of course
I threw a 24 bit color card into my IIsi?

Thanks

-- 
Allan		 | Could someone explain Ohm's Law to me?  I'm a senior in
hise@iastate.edu | electrical engineering and I guess I'm supposed to know it
"I'm gonna be puhsykeologist when I grow up"
"I'm gonna be a roadrunner.  Meep Meep Whiz Bang!"
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: PERFORMA 600 ?? WHEN????
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:28:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct15.132851.12991
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

sasmam@cbtdemo.unx.sas.com (Mike Monaco) writes:

>I called SEARS today and they told me the Performa 600's will not
>be in stock until NOVEMBER 25 .... I ordered mine in  septmember ..

    I'm not sure how you managed to order something in September that
won't even be released until Monday. I suppose that it is possible that
Sears could have taken down your name as someone who wanted to order a
P600, but Apple won't take any orders for it before 12:01 am Oct 19.
Also I doubt that Sears will actually have them "in stock".

>IS SEARS snowing me or has apple snowed me !!!!

    Well, it might take a couple of weeks for an order to be filled, but
if you were allowed to order it in Sept. then you were snowed by Sears.

>Does anybody have any information on if the 600's have been
>delayed ???????

    People are expecting supplies to be tight on all the Macs that are
being released this Monday, but that is nothing new. Other than that, I
certainly haven't heard or read about any delays other than the delay
for the DuoDock that was on the cover of this week's MacWEEK.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
			  -Admiral Stockdale-
From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: MAGIC Modems
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 20:10:40 -0500

 
  MH> Does anyone out there have a MAGIC Modem?  They are advertised for
  MH> about $250 in MacWorld and MacUser.  $250 is great for a V.32bis modem
  MH> if it's reliable.  Any sugjestions?

It's my understanding that the MAGIC modem is manufactured by Zoom.  Bundled
software might be different, but the hardware is identical.
 
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: brownd@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (David H Brown)
Subject: Re: SCSI port pinout
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:21:23 GMT

In article <1bi8b9INN3no@sal-sun82.usc.edu> chaoyang@sal-sun82.usc.edu (Chao Yang) writes:
>
>Does anybody know where to find out the pinout for SCSI port and internal
>SCSI slot pinout?  Thanks.

	Boy, do I love the U of Minnesota's TurboGopher for the Mac! Found
the info in a flash (although I don't know exactly where I was :-)):
----------------------------
Macintosh SE SCSI Port: Pinouts


 
This article last reviewed: 14 September 1987
 
These pinouts, the same for the Macintosh II and Macintosh SE, only differ
from the Macintosh Plus in that pin 25 provides terminator power.
 
 DB-25 connector
 
 Pin    Signal
 
 1   REQ       Request
 2   /MSG      Message
 3   I/O
 4   RST       Reset
 5   /ACK      Acknowledge
 6   /BSY      Busy
 7   GND       Ground
 8   /DATA0
 9   GND       Ground
10   /DATA3    Data Line 3
11   /DATA5    Data Line 5
12   /DATA6    Data Line
13   DB7       Data Line
14   GND       Ground
15   C/D       Carrier Detect
16   GND       Ground
17   ATN       Attention
18   GND       Ground
19   /SEL      Select
20   DBP
21   /DATA1    Data Line
22   /DATA2    Data Line
23   /DATA4    Data Line
24   GND       Ground
25   TERMPWR   Terminator power (+5V)
 
IMPORTANT: Because the SCSI port is a DB-25 connector, it looks like a
RS-232 port. It is NOT a RS-232 port.
 
Do NOT plug an RS-232 device into the SCSI port. Doing so will most likely
damage the SCSI chip on the logic board.
 
---------------------
BTW if you want TurboGopher...
TurboGopher is available for anonymous ftp from boombox.micro.umn.edu in
the  /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher directory. Even better, you can
fetch TurboGopher with gopher by looking in the Information About Gopher
folder on the University of Minnesota Gopher server.

Dave Brown (brownd@agnes.acc.stolaf.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)
Subject: Re: quadra 900 ram
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:56:36 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.,  Cupertino, CA

In article <#g3zdhr@rpi.edu> gilem@aix.rpi.edu (Michael R. Gile) writes:
> At school we have a quadra 900 that crashes randomly, either
> causing an application to exit, or locking the machine totally.
> My theory is that it does not like the 80ns memory that is in
> it.  does anyone know if it requires memory faster than 80ns?

All Quadras need only 80 ns DRAM - faster memory doesn't really buy you 
anything.  It sounds like you may have either a software compatibility 
problem (does this happen with extensions disabled?) or a SCSI problem 
(I've seen symptoms exactly as you describe when, due to a cable problem, 
the CPU couldn't access the hard disk).

- Dale Adams
  Apple Computer, Inc.
From: andrey@cs.arizona.edu (Andrey K. Yeatts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: educational price schedule
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:04:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

The "Student Aid" specially priced packages (about the same as the
new retail prices) went defunct yesterday. Has anyone seen the new 
educational price lists? How do they compare with
the recently-reduced suggested retail prices?

-- 
Andrey Yeatts					Dept. of Computer Science
andrey@cs.arizona.edu				Univ. of Arizona
{uunet,allegra,cmcl2,noao}!arizona!andrey	Tucson, AZ 85721
						(602) 621-4108
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: pinto@fidalgo.stanford.edu (John Pinto)
Subject: Q: How to split an 8*24GC video signal?
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 05:35:56 GMT

Hi there!  I have one 8*24GC card and 2 Apple Hi-Res color displays.
I'd like to split the signal from the video card so I get identical
images on both monitors.  Any ideas?

If there is a cheap solution, I'll pay.  Otherwise, I'd like info
on how to build such a device.

Thanks.

- John (pinto@psych.stanford.edu)
From: patb@mcl.ucsb.edu (Pat Breitenbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: ** Hard drive in Classic II mounted UPSIDE-DOWN?!? **
Keywords: Mac, Classic, Hard drive
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:44:50 GMT

In <81205@ut-emx.uucp> stan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Stan Twiefel) writes:

>so why should it matter which side is up?  
>i've been told that the only orientation that is bad is mounting the drive
>on one of its ends.... 

And even that shouldn't matter. La Cie puts out drives (Tsunami I think)
that sit on their sides. And most Mac II's can be put on their sides.
Heck the Quadras are even written on to be stood up. 

>-- 
>=============================================================================
>Stan Twiefel	 			    The University of Texas at Austin 
>stan@ccwf.cc.utexs.edu			    -=-=-=-=Computer Science=-=-=-=-=


Pat Breitenbach		patb@mcl.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bower@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Tyson Bower)
Subject: Re: 4MB SIMMs installation problems -- LC/cx: works; IIx: doesn't work
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:08:33 GMT

I hope you specified to the dealer that you intended to use the 4mb
SIMMs in a Mac IIx before you purchased them.

The Mac II and the IIx were developed before 4mb density SIMMs were 
available.  As a result, the hardware involved is indirectly incompatible
with SIMMs over 1mb density.  

However, this does not mean you can't use 4mb (or even 16mb or higher)
SIMMs in these Macs.  You simply need to use special SIMMs which contain
an extra "PAL" chip onboard.  This is necessary in order to properly
dealer with some sort of logic refresh rate.  I don't fully understand
the engineering of the whole thing, I simply know you need the PAL 
(or equivalent) chip there.

This is _NOT_ to be confused with the ninth parity bit chip used on many
of the ?x9 SIMMs available for IBM's and Mac's which employ parity
error correction.  This is, as Monty Python would say, "something 
completely different." 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: steph@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Stephen Sakamoto)
Subject: Re: Transceiver on Quadra ethernet
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 06:41:28 GMT

cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (chang hsu liu) writes:
: 
: It's strange that Apple provides ethernet connection but requires a special
: transceiver that cost around $90. What's the logic behind this? What's the
: use of transceiver? Is there a cheaper way to bypass the transceiver? The

Apple did it so they could support ethernet and allow the enduser decide
what kind of physical connection they wanted. Thick, thin or twisted pair.

You can get what you need from a company named Asante, don't have the
address here with me but they advertise in MacWeek, MacUser and MacWorld.
Since you are at a University the educational price on those adaptors is
$65. It sounds like you want the thick adaptor.

--
Stephen Sakamoto
UCLA Computer Science Department
steph@cs.ucla.edu
(310) 825-2145
From: gumby@ucsd.edu (Henry Ptasinski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard disk partitions
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:49:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.092132.78@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>  
lederman@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
> In article <2192@deadmin.ucsd.edu>, gumby@ucsd.edu (Henry Ptasinski) writes:
> > I was poking around the hard disk on my brother's SE the other day, and I  
came  
> > across a partition on the disk with the following description:
> 
>     You don't say what size your disk is, which might matter.

I don't have my notes here, but it was a Maxtor ~20MB drive (I think it  
actually was about 20.5 MB).  It has about 970 KB free.

>     So I went and looked at the 40MB drive which came with my
>  IIcx, and sure enough, it was formatted with some unused space at
>  the end.  I re-partitioned and got over 900k extra space on it.

Several people wrote to me saying that Apple formats drives to specific sizes.   
This is done to hide variations caused by using drives manufactured by  
different suppliers.

Since I'm not relly familliar with Macs, how can I repartition the drive?  Do I  
need to start from scratch with a low level format, or can I somehow modify the  
existing usable partition to include this free space?

On a related subject, 20 MB just doesn't seem to be enough anymore.  My brother  
is looking at getting a ~200 MB drive.  Would it be possible to remove the  
existing internal drive and replace it with a larger capacity internal drive?   
Would this be a good idea?  Or should he stick with an external drive?  Any  
specific drive recommendations?

Thanks
Henry P.
gumby@ucsd.edu
From: danny@garnet.berkeley.edu (Danny Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Installing SIMMS in SE/30
Date: 10 Oct 1992 11:27:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct6.160618.1@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu> f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:
>I have 4 x 1MB SIMMS that I want to put into my SE/30.
>I already have 4 x 1MB SIMMS installed.
>I am looking for advice anyone can spare about how to go about doing this
>installation. I have all the necessary tools (torx screwdriver, case 
>splitter and grounding strap). What I am concerned about is gaining 
>access to the logic board to install the SIMMS. I know this is located
>on the bottom of the unit. Are there any tricks to getting the logic
>board out so that I can install the SIMMS?
>Thanks in advance.
>-Richard.
>e-mail or post OK.

You might want to take a look at the Sept or Oct issues of Macworld if you
want a visual guide.  They did a step by step article on upgrading.

Danny


-- 
Danny Lee
danny@garnet.berkeley.edu
510.548.2173

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: amundsen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Craig Amundsen)
Subject: 20 MBytes o' RAM
Organization: College of Biological Sciences, U of MN
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:07:20 GMT

Hi -

The lab I work in just purchased a Mac IIci. It has 20 MBytes of RAM, an
Apple Portrait monitor (with a 8-24GC video card), a really big hard drive,
and a cache card. It came with System 7.01 and the tuneup already on the
drive. My problem is this: with 32-bit addressing off, the system takes up
about 14 MBytes of RAM (as I anticipated), but when I turn on 32 bit 
addressing, the computer acts totally squirrely. If 32-bit addressing is on
and virtual memory is off, the menu bar is not drawn and the contents of
windows are also not drawn. If 32-bit addressing is on and virtual memory is
also on, the computer boots REALLY slowly and when I tried to open the 
memory control panel the pointer turned into the watch, stayed the watch for
a couple of minutes, and then disappered completely. I didn't do any more
experimentation because the first two took a long time to deal with. My 
question is: has anyone else had this problem and were you able to solve it?

Please respond by e-mail, if I am able to fix the problem I will post the
answer.

Thanks
- Craig


-- 
Craig Amundsen (amundsen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu)	<STANDARD DISCLAIMER>

                           Drive Fast, Take Chances
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: willmark@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (WILLIAMS MARK D)
Subject: Re: DayStar PowercacheDDD
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:41:36 GMT

In article <Bw7uI4.Ko7@apollo.hp.com> esteban@apollo.hp.com (Steven Fernandez) writes:
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>I am considering ordering a 50mhz PowerChache. Does anybody have
>a feel for how much faster the new 040 PowerCache will be? I'm 
>wondering if I should just hold out and get the 040 when it comes 
>out. Do they have a no penalty upgrade on this stuff. I called
>Daystar to ask but they put me on hold for too long.
>
>Steve
>
>

The new 040 Powercache will be a 33 MHz MC68040, and so it should be
significantly faster than the 50 MHz 68030 on the 50 MHz powercache. 
Daystar has a great program whereby you can upgrade between any of their
accelerator products at any time for the difference in list price.
However, they are offering a special deal to those who buy the 50 MHz
Powercache with 68882 before November 30. You may upgrade to the 
33 MHz 68040 Powercache at any time during 1993 for $99. I would guess
that this will be less than the difference between list prices for the
50 MHz 68030 Powercache, and the 33 MHz 68040 Powercache.

y
q
33 MHz 68040 powercache at any time during
From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple Releases Two CD-ROM drives
Date: 7 Oct 1992 21:04:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Well folks, Apple DID release two new CD-ROM drives today- the 300 series,
one internal, one external. Both will be available at $499 by December, and
there will be an internal upgrade kit for the Q900/950 and the new 600CD,
etc. by January. (DON'T ASK ME WHAT THAT MEANS!!!)
-- 
         Travis Grundke- Contributing Editor, MacGames Digest
                      an780@cleveland.freenet.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  
    MacGames Digest: The first magazine dedicated to Macintosh Gaming.