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From: dsk@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Daniel Katz)
Subject: SGI traceroute
Reply-To: dsk@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, USA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:59:25 GMT

I am looking for a version of traceroute which runs on a 4D25.
If anyone has such a thing, please let me know.

Thanks,
Dan

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Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, 60208                E pur si muove
From: ben@bytepb.UUCP (Ben Smith @ BYTE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Stalking the Ultimate Workstation?
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:58:21 GMT

nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:

>Not to start a religious war between SGI and NeXT folks (we
>use and like both), but most serious DTP people I know say
>that what you need is postscript, or better still display
>postscript, not X, which is why a NeXT, with it's DPS based
>window system NeXTstep, is highly praised by DTP folks. 

>It seems to me an Indigo has other strengths.
I suppose I should get into this fray. The NeXT is a decent
machine for DTP since it uses display PS and it has many add-on
features (built-in dictionaries and references, etc.). It is,
after all, a comparatively inexpensive workstation with a
superalitive user interface.

The SGI, on the other hand, also supports display PS in its
window driver (as well as X and GL), and so does an admirable job
of cranking out the PS. The basic Indigo (without graphics
boards) is also well designed for office level DTP.

My argument for the SGI is its ability to do a wider range of
applications. The NeXT is limited to NeXTstep applications--they
are nice, but there aren't that many and they tend to be quite
different from anything else.

On price/performance, the two rate about the same. You get what
you pay for. -ben
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From: steev@ipecac.esd.sgi.com (Motorin' Flarey Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Switching Elan board between computers
Date: 14 Nov 92 02:08:41 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1e1jfiINN2ii@fangio.asd.sgi.com> rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller) writes:

>desilva@luxor.ced.berkeley.edu (Deanan Da Silva) writes:
>>Is it possible to put an ELAN board from a Crimson into
>>an Indigo 
>> or even a 4D35TG? 

>No, the graphics bus'es are different.

Not exactly.  The 4D35 does have the same GIO bus as the Indigo and can accept
the Elan graphics card, as long as you have this little L shaped adapter
board to make it the same form factor as a GR1 board.  I wouldn't think SGI
would sell just this adapter board, but there is no harm in asking your local
sales office...

The 4D20 and 4D25 will not work with the Elan board.

>...robert

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From: boylan@pi.eai.iastate.edu (Terran Boylan)
Subject: IMAX/DIGISTAR experiences
Organization: Engineering Animation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:23:14 GMT

(Once again, not the most appropriate newsgroup, but I always
 seem to get some of my best info from comp.sys.sgi...)

I recently posted regarding what services were available for transfer of
high-resolution digital animations to 35mm movie film.  I received a
large number of _very_ helpful responses.  As I received 4 more in today's
mailbox I want to wait until after the weekend to post a summary.

We do computer animations on video, mostly for accident reconstruction and
scientific visualization.  We have a client who is very interested
in getting animations of their scientific data before a large audience
at science centers or similar environments.

Two rather interesting possibilities for this project are:

1) IMAX/OMNIMAX format (maybe even in polarized stereo 3D)
2) The Evans & Sutherland DIGISTAR planetarium projection system
   (Apparently this is a real-time non-stereo 3D-geometry system)

If you are a member of a company that:

  -- offers services for IMAX film format work
     (Digital image recording, processing, etc.)
  -- has made an IMAX or OMNIMAX film and has antecdotal info regarding
     production costs or problems with the format
  -- creates DIGISTAR presentations
  -- has had experience with DIGISTAR geometry formats, camera motion
     formats, etc.

please contact me.  Once again, I will post a summary of the responses
I receive.  Because we are trying to come up with possible budget ranges for
this project, I am particularly interested in pricing information
(approximate information is fine).

If you want any information you give me kept confidential, please tell
me so in your response.

If you want to FAX me price schedules (_very_ helpful), our fax # is:

  (515) 296-7025

Thank you in advance.

Peace,


Terran J

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From: stanj@ferrari.corp.sgi.com (Stan Jensen)
Subject: Re: mouting and unmounting
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:01:37 GMT

In article <OUTTEN.92Nov5122355@aleutian.bellcore.com>, outten@bellcore.com (Todd Outten) writes:
|> 
|> first, is there any way to tell who is mouting file systems from
|> my local machine. and second, is there any painless way to tell
|> those machines to umount the filesystem (say if i need to take the
|> system down). the problem i'm having is that those machine that 
|> have directories mounted from my machine get hosed when i take
|> my machine down. 
|> any ideas?

As far as your first question, look at "/etc/showmount -a".
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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: How Restore / and /usr filesystems?
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:58:23 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Nov9.163550.12622@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> waugh@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jim Waugh) writes:
|  How do I restore a "bru" tape backup of my / and /usr
| filesystems to my SCSI disk?

See the /usr/sbin/Restore shell script.  You could also use
system recovery (item 4 if I remember right on the PROM menu).

|  I have an entry level Indigo with Indigo Video board. 4.0.5MM
| was on the Indigo, and I installed 4.0.5F. Now the message "No
| Indigo Video Board Installed" appears when I try invoking video

Do *NOT* restore your system because of this.  Somebody forgot
to send you the svideo CD.  Call the TAC and ask them to send
it to you.

| utilities like VideoPanel. The probability is ~1.0 that I'm at
| fault here, as I botched the install by loading the CDs in the
| wrong sequence, etc. So, I'd like to restore to the system state
| before the upgrade attempt and start over.

svideo is *NOT* part of the 405F CD, so you didn't botch anything.
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: stefans@bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Stefan Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: How display a GL application on remote X server ???
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:44:05 GMT
Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen (Germany)

akin@tuolumne.asd.sgi.com (Allen Akin) writes:
>toepfer@du9ds4.uni-duisburg.de (Hansjoerg Toepfer) writes:
>> I have remote access to an IRIS Indigo.
>> Is it possible to run remote GL applications with display on my SUN under X11?

>Not unless you have a third-party implementation of IRIS GL running on
>your Sun.  (And even then it might not be possible; I don't know
>whether any of the third-party implementations support DGL.)  For
>information on IRIS GL for Suns, contact Dupont Pixel Systems at
>800-542-1484 or Nth Graphics at 512-832-1944 (npgl@nth.com).


>In article <1dopuhINNrm@gap.caltech.edu>, rickert@cco.caltech.edu writes:
>> In order to run a GL application, you need a GL server running on the
>> machine in question.  To the best of my knowledge, there is not 
>> currently an OpenGL server running on the SUn ( by which I mean a
>> commercially or freely available one, I am sure that people are working 
>> on it)
>> Without that, you can only display X programs on he sun, not GL ones.

>You're correct that there is not yet an OpenGL implementation available
>for Suns.  However, the original poster is looking for an IRIS GL
>implementation.

>Nth Graphics is working on OpenGL for Suns.  I would guess that other
>companies are doing so, as well.

Or, if you can't wait or don't plan to port to OpenGL and your application
doesn't rely to heavily on special GL features, try to compile and link
with vogl.

Stefan
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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Where is nroff?? (plus compiler question)
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:34:42 GMT

In <1992Nov13.173512.28632@news.acns.nwu.edu> gof@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gerald Fountain) writes:

| I have just finished setting up three new Indigo R4K's and noticed there is no
| nroff on the disk.  According to 'man man', nroff(1) is to be used for local
| man pages.  Seems odd that they would suggest to use something that was not on
| the distribution disks!

It is part of the dwb product.  The man page is not 'suggesting that you
use it'; it is mentioning it, since man will emit error messages about
it when it isn't found.

| On an unrelated note, what machines are effected by the -mips1 and -mips2
| flags?  What are the benefits?

Only the r4k machines (from sgi; it applies to r6k MIPS machines
as well, from what I remember) can run binaries built with -mips2.

You get some tuned routines in the libs in /usr/lib/mips2, and you
get true sd/ld (floating point only) 64 bit loads and stores, which
can help if there is a lot of memory traffic on doubles.
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: dplakos@nswc-wo.nswc.navy.mil (Daniel Plakosh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Software installation problem
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:19:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: relay.1992Nov6.141950.26762
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center


  While attemping to install system software on a IP4 machine
the following errors are displayed.

171760+46048+......etc
sash not found:
known files are
sash.IP*
sash.IP4
mr
fx.IP*
fx.IP4
unable to read volume header of "tpsc(0,7)"
* stands for all other IP types


any ideas ?


Thanks
 
 
 
 
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From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: Does IRIX support "secure" nfs?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:12:46 GMT

In article <34002@adm.brl.mil>, c60244@ccfiris.aedc (Kenny McDonald) writes:
> Keystrokes of Kenny McDonald, in response to Vernon Schryver:
> >
> >In article <1992Nov5.032429.2196@igor.tamri.com>, lim@igor.tamri.com (Bill Lim) writes:
> >> I haven't seen anything in my system manuals about any kind of
> >> secure nfs. I have used SUN's secure nfs option and am wondering
> >> if it or a functional equivalent exists for IRIX?
> >> 
> >> SUN's secure nfs can prevent a user with root permissions on his/her own
> >> workstation to "su" to another user and view or change that user's
> >> files, via nfs, unless the file permisssions are set r/w for others.
> >
> >
> >I thought all NFS servers by default mapped UID 0 to "nobody", usually
> >UID=-1 or something similarly bogus.  The original SUN reference source
> >did.  So have all SGI NFS products.
> >
> 
> This doesn't keep someone with root privs from su'ing to another user in
> order to look at any NFS files belonging to that user.  I have heard that
> there is a version of NFS that will not use the effective UID for file
> access; thus handling this type of situation.  Has anyone else heard of this?


Changing the client to always use the real instead of effective UID
would not affect the security problem.  Anyone who can `su` to root and
then `su` to a target user can instead create a user of any desired UID
and log in as that user.  Changing the NFS client to always use the
real UID would break SUID programs.

SGI does support the "host access list" feature in medium modern NFS
implemenations, where the NFS server limits access to members of a list
of hosts.

There is, as I wrote at first, a Kerberized version of NFS available
from some universities.  I do not think SGI supports it, and I don't
recall hearing that it had been ported to IRIX by those universities.

There is also a more secure version of NFS and NIS that Sun proposed,
and I think shipped about 3 years ago.  My understanding is that its
cryptographic security was not found impressive by those who understand
such things, and so it's authorization and authentication facilities
have not been very popular.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: joel@jellotrees.esd.sgi.com (Joel Tesler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: glx overlay and colormap question
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:34:08 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


Your overlay colormaps are not being installed.  You must tell the
window manager to install them, using XSetWMColormapWindows.  (Pass in
three colormaps:  The overlay colormap, the GL colormap, and the X
colormap.)

Joel Tesler
joel@sgi.com
415-390-3048
From: karron@karron.med.nyu.edu (Dan Karron (karron@nyu.edu))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Real time EEG recording on IRIX
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:26:42 GMT


Has anyone built a real time recording subsystem for sgi boxes ?
The idea is to record a large (n>30) number of simultaneous EEG/ECG
channels digitally. Can the audio systems be adapted for this ?
Can the indigo record/playback 30 simultaneous audio channels ?

Just wondering before I start reinventing this wheel!

Dan.
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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Reading a tape created with vadmin WITHOUT using vadmin?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 05:58:53 GMT

In <1992Nov6.014312.14604@netcom.com> jchauvin@netcom.com (John H. Chauvin) writes:


| I have been using the vadmin tool to backup my home directories using a 8mm 
| internal tape drive. Can someone tell me how to obtain a list of the files
| on a tape created with vadmin WITHOUT using the vadmin tool. Can I extract
| files without using vadmin? 

Yes, it is just a bru tape with a customized label, and some special
files at the beginning of the tape.  Look at /usr/sbin/Backup, and
Restore.  To get *all* the nitty gritty, boot a miniroot, and look
at /etc/restore, a long, overly involved, shell script.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: syscrc@pickle.gsu.edu (Randy Carpenter)
Subject: Re: Login failure
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:12:14 GMT

bclark@wankle.ctron.com (Bret Clark) writes:

>>I have a user who cannot log in directly to one of our Iris 4Ds
>>running 4.0.1.  He tries, the screen blanks for a moment, and then
>>he's back at the login menu.  (Even with no password, he fails.)
>>All other logins, on that machine or by that user, succeed.  He
>>has a pretty boring .login and .cshrc.  Any clues?
>
>
>I have just starting seeing the problem Iris INDIGO. It appears to be with the
>program pandora. I have not been able to track it down. .login and .chsrc has 
>nothing to do with the problem. The only solution I have been able to find is 
>to disable visual login under /etc/config/visuallogin or to reformat and reload
>the OS (Not a great fix).
>
>I am interested in knowing of a fix as well.
>
>Bret Clark
>Mail Address: bclark@ctron.com

We have noticed the problem with first-time logins when the password aging
feature is enabled.  A first-time login will not work from the graphics
monitor, but it will from a tty or over the network.  This is the case with
Irix 3.3 and 4.0.

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From: jeremy@classic.asd.sgi.com (Jeremy Higdon)
Subject: Re: jagtape drivers
Keywords: jagtape no-swap driver
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:18:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct26.174646.11065@den.mmc.com>, beck@ro.den.mmc.com (Fred R. Beck) writes:
> I have a quick couple of questions for any SGI device driver folks 
> out there.  Particularly concerning the jagtape drivers...
> 
> When, if ever, will the no-swap device be available in the jagtape
> driver?  It seems that at this juncture that this poses a glaring
> incompatability issue for those of us forced (kicking and screaming,
> of course) into heterogeneous environments.

The Jaguar is by default a no-swap device.  So the answer is that it
is already there.  In the next release, you will be able to swap to
the Jaguar tapes, though I don't know that anyone would want to.

> 
> Additional caveat.  Over a year ago I was working on 9-Track tape 
> problems with the head of the engineering at M4 down in Florida. 
> At this time, M4 mentioned that they had been working with SGI on 
> including specific device drivers for their 9-Track tape drive so that
> its performance could be optimized.  Currently, one must use the Kennedy 
> tape driver by modifying the SCSI-Vendor and SCSI-ID fields in the 
> /usr/sysgen/master.d/[jagtape,tpsc] files.  Though this is a solution
> which works, the performance of a very nice tape drive is not realized.

There is no reason why the M4 should not work at full speed, unless
they have some "slow" mode that they go into by default.

> 
> I would appreciate any info anyone has!!
> 
> -fred b.
> 

jeremy

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From: stanj@ferrari.corp.sgi.com (Stan Jensen)
Subject: Re: How to buy SGI, FAQ?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:20:50 GMT

In article <BxDpGK.Jzr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jacksu@peter.atmos.uiuc.edu (Jack Su) writes:
|> 
|> We're interested in purchasing a low end SGI.  Can someone mail/post with
|> whom I need to contact?  We need an educational price quote.  If this is
|> in FAQ, can someone please mail me a copy.
In addition to our local offices throughout North America, you can always
call SGI Express (1-800-800-7441) for product information, prices, quotes,
literatures requests, etc. Our nearest office to you is in Oak Brook, IL
("Chicago") at (708)571-6505 or call SGI Express and ask for Phil Burton.
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From: jsmith@spectro.UUCP (Jerry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: ie porting news
Keywords: X text editor
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:51:01 GMT
Organization: Iris Computing Labs


At Xhibition92 a number of visitors to our booth asked that
we notify you when `ie' is available for the SGI platform.
ie/SGI is now available.

Jerry Smith
Iris Computing Laboratories
The Spectro Group, Inc.
1219 Luisa Street, Suite 9
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501  USA

Phone:  +1-505-988-2670
Fax:    +1-505-988-2489
Email:  info@spectro.com
From: toepfer@du9ds4.uni-duisburg.de (Hansjoerg Toepfer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: How display a GL application on remote X server ???
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:19:55 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Duisburg GH
NNTP-Posting-Host: du9ds4.uni-duisburg.de


Hello !

I have remote access to an IRIS Indigo.
Is it possible to run remote GL applications with display on my SUN under X11?
I always get the following error:

dgl error (TCP connect): Connection refused
dgl error (default init): default dglopen(du9ds4:0.0,4) returned -127

Could someone give me a hint?

Thanx, Hanjo

PS: No problems with 'normal' X applications.

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From: krumbein@thama1.apgea.army.mil (Michael Zvi Krumbein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Whoops! retraction of login problem
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:44:55 GMT

My original posting (about pandora logins aborting):
>We have the same problem, and the users do not have .gamma files. I thought
>that it might be a problem mentioned earlier (I was setting DISPLAY to
>localhost:0 instead of :0), but our SA changed that and it still fails.
>
>I should point out that our problem is an intermittent one, and occurs
>randomly to several users. We do have custom system and local profile / cshrc
>files, though.
It turns out that we did originally have .gamma files, and that fixing the
local .gamma files (actually, removing them) did fix the problem.

mzk Michael Zvi Krumbein krumbein@thama1.apgea.army.mil
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