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From: kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD #106))
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Colo Spgs Vote (was Re: L.A. City Council Joins Colorado Ban)
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:10:13 GMT

in article <1992Dec17.074909.18535@mic.ucla.edu>, cjones@physci.ucla.edu (Chad Jones) says:
> 
> Colorado Springs Mayor Robert Iassc is smong those on the executive
> committee of the mayors' group who will vote on moving the conference
> from his city.  His spokesman, Terry McCann, said Wednesday: "People are
> portraying us as ogres and we're not.  Not everyone in this state votd
> for Amendment 2."

Someone needs to tell Mayor Isaacs that 67% of the voters on El Paso
County (i.e. Colorado Springs) voted "YES" on Amendment #2.  The portrait
of Colorado Springs being home to a bunch of ogres is an accurate
portrail, although one must say that not everyone there is an ogre.
Just those in power, including Isaacs, who didn't lift a finger to
stop Amendment #2 from passing.

Isaacs was given numerous opportunities to come out against Amendment #2.
He was asked personally by politicians I know, through the Colorado
Municipal League, which did officially come out against the measure.
For Isaacs to come out and say that "not everyone in Colorado voted
for Amendment #2" is about as disingenuous as a politician can be.

Colorado Springs deserves to be boycotted.  The city fathers (and I use
that term deliberately, since it's run by a good-old-boy network)
deliberately courted right-wing fundy groups such as Focus on the
Family, HCJB (a fundy short-wave ministry broadcasting out of Ecuador),
and about 50 others to relocate there.  Now they are getting what they
deserve.

Colorado Springs is an embarrassment to Colorado.  So much nonsence
has emerged from there besides Amendment #2.  A group is starting a
recall of Gov. Romer, just because he has the gall to say that he
thinks Coloradans made a mistake when they pass Amendments #2 and #1,
a controversial tax-limitation measure.  Other crap coming out of
"the Springs" includes an "English-Only" constitutional amendment,
a constitutional ban on state funding of abortions, and other gems.
Must be something in the air that causes such fascism to reign
supreme there.

  					    Kevin

Kevin Malloy  					      kpm@druhi.att.com
633 E. 11th Ave.					 1991 BMW K75RT	  
Denver, CO  80203	_NOT_ a 2nd Class Coloradoan!	       DoD #106
(303) 830-2937	 With liberty and justice for all, NO EXCEPTIONS!
From: msp@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael S. Pettersen)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: A Taste of Culture
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:11:33 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <1992Dec16.183021.405@cbfsb.cb.att.com> rcrice@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (roger.w.crice) writes:
>So, how about it?  Is there any food that truly represents
>queer couture?  Does anyone have a favorite "dish?"

There sure ought to be a queer cuisine, but I think we just do everyone 
else's better.  This herb queen suggests anything with herbs.  Here's one 
that I discovered at the Moroccan restaurant across the street from my 
apartment.  They steamed it in an eartheware pot, which makes it a
"tagine," but it works fine as a stew.  Stew chicken and your favorite
stewing vegetables (potatoes, onion, carrots...) with lots of strong
green olives, and maybe even a little olive oil, and a lemon--squeeze the
juice into the stew but also put the rind in to flavor the broth.
Salt, pepper, garlic to taste, of course.  Finally, serve topped with
heaps of fresh cilantro.  All my favorite flavors in one dish.  MMMM!
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Pomo Afro Homos!
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:18:53 GMT
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu

Donald:
> 
> Actually, I would like to create (or take part in creating) a  
> national Black queer 'zine along the lines of THING when I get  
> to New York next summer (oh, didn't I tell y'all?  I'm moving!).   

Uh oh, how do you keep it from being NY-centered then? :-)

> P.S. - I'm trying to get an interview with Brian Freeman of Pomo  
> Afro Homos to submit to THING magazine.  Yes, I AM in love with  
> him 

Ummm, who isn't? :-)

Silly gossip: Brian Freeman was spotted waiting in line at the Roxie in
SF for a screening of the Tunisian gay film, Man of Ashes. (Unfortunately
the film is not terribly impressive.)

Bill
From: jeh@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Jim Hubbs)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Any GOOD gay bars in Falls Church, VA?
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:17:30 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs

>In article <921206220400.93bf@ids.net>, ADAMKD@ids.net says:
>>
>>Does anybody know the address of some good "gay" bars in or near Falls
>>Church, VA?
>>                                -Adam

These is always 808 King St. in Alexandria.  But of course DC
is so close.  

Jim Hubbs
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From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Maybe a dumb question...
Keywords: marriage legal gay
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 04:38:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.213704.12921@serval.net.wsu.edu> gerkman@binky.csc.wsu.edu (Joseph M. Gerkman) writes:

Hi Joe!

>Are there any states where same-sex marriage is legal?

No, but there are many cities which now recognize domestic partners.
AND, hopefully our friend Billy Boy will order that the US Government
and the military recognize domestic partners, too.  That only would 
mean that as an enterprise, the US government could not discriminate
on the basis of a spouses sex in relation to the employee's sex.  Also,
it would not mean that State Governments would have to do the same nor
would any businesses... discrimination on the basis of the sex of a 
spouse in relation to the sex of the employee is a hairy arguement, 
but have proven to be sound in many court cases around the country.
This opinion being from an engineer, mind you :)

-- 
| Tom Barrett (TDBear), Sr. Engineer | tom.barrett@amd.com
| AMD PCD / Austin, TX  78741        | v:512-462-6856 / f:512-462-5155
| "No is Yes, and We are All FREE!"  | 
| My views may not be shared by the organization or origin
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From: akbar@cs.mcgill.ca (Alain BOUCHARD)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Legos
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:10:41 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Dec10.234008.19851@cabezon.uucp> kenr@cabezon.uucp 
(Ken Richards) writes:
>So I'm sitting here looking at all the new Lego kits I bought for myself
>and am wondering: A 28 year old Lego Maniac - is this a gay thing or just an 
>engineering geek thing?

I can only speak for myself, but I think it's a gay engineering geek thing.

Alain
From: AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Castro Street (Re: Two threads:  women posting and 'cures' and its spinoffs)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:58:49 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Dec15.214714.10560@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
czmt@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Season Marie Taylor) writes:
>In article <mattm-151292101228@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>>In article <168BC1112A.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu>, TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu wrote:
>
>>> M*lm*n
>
>>Oh, how *cute*!  I was wondering when I would be promoted to the
>>"vowels are now substitution symbols" rank.  Up 'til now, it's just
>>been variations on a spelling bee.
>
>I think "Melonhead" is much more suitable.
>
>season, feeling a little bitchy right now
                          ^^^^^

  Be careful when using this word around here.  Someone might accuse
  you of misogyny, Ms. Taylor.
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From: steven@cray.com (Steven Levine)
Subject: Check Your Local Paper Re:  Inaugural
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:03:48 CST

Yesterday's press conference about Clinton's Inaugural Parade
on January 20 included the news that one of the groups
performing at the Parade will be the "Lesbian and Gay
Band of America" (sic).

(Actually, although it is true that we will be
performing "at the parade," we will not be marching --
we will be stationed alongside the parade route, performing
for parade spectators.)

Today's Minneapolis Star Tribune included a small article
in their "Nation" section that included this news.  This
leads some of us to think that the story was picked up in
other papers around the country -- and perhaps the world,
who knows?.

I ask soc.motss readers, as a favor, to check your local
papers today for atricles about the Inauguration that
mention the Lesbian and Gay band.  We are trying
to collect these articles for our records.

If you find an article are willing to cut it out
and send it to me, please send me email (so I can avoid
asking more than one person to go to the trouble).
So far I have the article from the Minneapolis and the
article in today's Washington Post.

Thanks for any help you can offer here.

[More news when I have the chance, particularly on how
this came about -- and soc.motss was a part of it.  Thanks
Greg and Julian.]

-Steven Levine
 steven@cray.com



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From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: ,,,
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:47:30 GMT
Followup-To: poster

In article <1992Dec16.140618.13097@bsu-ucs>, 00daspeakman@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman, Ball State University) writes:
> 
> This is my first post in over six months. Gosh, time flies....

gee, could it be that your reading skills ned a while more to get up to
speed?
you have incorrectly marked the following:

> > owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:
> > 
> > I still feel that this is an overworked and misapplied word.  A phobia
> > is a FEAR of something.  But homosexuals use it for 'fear', 'dislike',
> > or whatever.  Dislike of blacks just because they are black is racISM,
> > not racOPHOBIA.  

This is mis-attributed.
I did not write this passage, check your editor.

  
> Not RaceOPHOBIA - XENOPHOBIA (The fear of things that are different)
> Subsets of Xenophobia include homophobia.
> Phobos is greek for fear. Phobia does not always mean purely "fear," but also
> the implication of the result of such fear. 
> Mr. Rowley, maybe hatred and dislike have a basis in FEAR. i.e. are the result
> of fear of the consequences of non-heterosexual participation in every aspect
> of society.

I am very well aware of this stuff.
I didn't make the statement you are basing your criticism on.

LUX ./. owen

--
D. Owen Rowley {uunet,fernwood,sun}!autodesk!owen

  " It will be a cold March 17th that I celebrate the imposition of
	Romes rule, on Pagan Ireland. Erin go ppphhhhhttttttt! "
From: max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Legos
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:49:32 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1992Dec10.234008.19851@cabezon.uucp> kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken Richards) writes:
>So I'm sitting here looking at all the new Lego kits I bought for myself
>and am wondering: A 28 year old Lego Maniac - is this a gay thing or just an 
>engineering geek thing?

	Yes.

	Be sure to keep your MTRON stuff away from those floppies and
	backup tapes!

	...Max
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From: smith@mscf.med.upenn.edu (Amelia T. Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: My *sigh* ad in the Washington Blade
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:53:01 GMT
Organization: Medical School Computer Facility, UPENN

In article <1992Dec15.161546.5432@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
[...] 
> No kidding.  Amelia is to girl like a mac truck to a Tonka, like a
> shark to a minnow, like....

<guffaw>

Thank you, Ry.

Father Amelia, but you can call me Sir.

                   ----- Amelia T. Smith -----
University of Pennsylvania     Internet: smith@mscf.med.upenn.edu 
Opinions: MINE! MINE! MINE!    NBCS: H-f-t-w++d-s+(+)k+p++e++g+
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Castro Street (Re: Two threads:  women posting and "cures" and its spinoffs)
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:41:53 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec12.014224.8123@spdcc.com> 
dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <168BAA428.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu> 
>TMCCART3@u1vm.ua.edu writes
>>[...] But it's not just a numbers game. Men here seem to
>>be aggressively uninterested in gay culture that's *not* male -- witness the
>>quickness (I know, I know, I've said it before) with which references to
>>lesbian culture and icons are sidetracked into something the men find
>>more interesting.
>
> Hey, whatja think of Phranc's latest album?

I'd be interested to know more about the Lesbians in Opera
panel at the MLA, particularly about the paper on Brigitte
Fassbaender.  Why did Fassbaender start to perform repertory 
that has always been considered male?  (I'm thinking here
of Schwanengesang in particular.)  Do you have any insights?
Does anyone out there have any ideas?  And not just about
Fassbaender, but about lesbians and opera in general.  I've
known lesbians who were *crazy* for Joan Sutherland, for 
instance, but I've never met a lesbian version of an opera
queen.  Do they exist?  And no, I'm not being facetious.

Arne

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: lattanzi@brtph73.bnr.ca (Jim Lattanzi P215)
Subject: Re: weird trees
Keywords: aluminum, tacky, unfathomable
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, RTP, NC
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:58:23 GMT

In article <17572@umd5.umd.edu> jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:
>
>Whither the aluminum Christmas tree?  Are they now
>only collectors' items?  [Would anyone dare?]
>

A co-worker (Brian aka Brenda) spent the past week looking for one.  He
finally found a vintage 60's tree in a Raleigh antique store.  Unfortunately,
the color wheel was from a later period (the 70's), but he's quite pleased
with the purchase overall.

This is the same person who has all of the straight guys calling each other
"girlfriend" and "sister".  Work's been interesting since Little Sister came
on board. :-)
-- 
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Bell-Northern Research, Dept. 3C33, P.O. Box 13478, RTP, NC 27709-3478
Disclaimer: These are my opinions, not those of BNR or Northern Telecom.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov.bitnet (Jim Wylde Heavy Metal Homo)
Subject: Re: Devil CD's
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:58:49 GMT


>dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa) writes:
>
>Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>|> I am *NOT* into Megadeth. While heavy metal may sound all alike to
>|> those not fond of any part of it, believe me -- there are major
>|> differences. One of the things I like about Metallica is James
>|> Hetfield's interesting, intelligent and INTELLIGIBLE lyrics; they
>|> don't have a great deal of competition in this field, IMHO.
>
>Blech. Too slow, too slow...
>
>(Not that Megadeth is better, although watching Dave Mustaine's ego as it
>attempts to swallow him whole can be kind of fun.)
>

But what yer both not mentioning is that *both* of them have
serious political views, and express them in thier music, and
at least try to make a difference, unlike some of the other
metal bands that can't get past cars and broads (yeecchh!)

Either of you two ever listen to Helot Revolt?  Openly gay
metal band out of LA?

Hippie Jim Wylde

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From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Gay Child Molesters (Re: Youth Info Needed)
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:56:58 GMT
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH


In a previous article, ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) says:

>In article <1992Dec19.040206.28702@news.ysu.edu> ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller) writes:
>>
>>Children are not able, physically (before puberity), emotionally, or 
>>psychologically, to handle the responsibilities and pressures of a 
>>sexual relationship. (This is well documented, unlike many of the claims
>>made in this forum by those who would equate everything homosexual with
>>NAMBLA)
>
>
>Damn, thanks for telling me, I hadn't realized that I couldn't handle
>doing my best friend walter at seven, and my upstairs neighbor at nine.
>No doubt the fun I was incapable of handling resulted in severe emotional
>scarring.  
>

Oh, come on.

Are you seriously trying to equate a couple of kids playing "Doctor" with
the effect on a child of being fucked by a thirty year old?



>Ry
>ry@usl.com
>
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*  ae642@yfn.ysu.edu/Kelley L. Miller  / /__\      Gay 90's!!      *           
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From: smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Call/Fax/Write Fernandez
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:51:30 GMT
Organization: Colorado Springs IT Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: fajita19.cs.itc.hp.com

Due to requests from several people, I'll be following up on
this thread to alt.politics.homosexuality.  

Walter Smith
smithw@cs.itc.hp.com

Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: NOTICE - Details of the March on Washington
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:49:39 GMT

Excellent post Tom.
It cleared up some real questions for me.
I recognize it as far more philosophically sound now.

I think that the original poster(sorry I can't remember your name)
had a valid point on the issue of dilution.  With so many ideas on 
the same platform, could the issues get confused?

I shall give examples to make my question clearer.

Here at UD we have a group called Queer Campus.  We put up posters
which showed two naked men with one lying on top of the other reading
Hot man to man sex (or something like that) written on it.
We also put up signs saying "suck dick, lick clit/homophobia's gotta quit"
By putting up these signs we were confronting homophobia/heterosexism,
but we also struck the chord of erotophobia.  People didn't deal with
the homophobia because of the uproar over the erotophobia.

Another example is the Oregon #9.  The fundies tried to gloss over
the homophobic intent of the resolution with the issues of pedophilia(sp?)

Are people going to say, "I support GLB rights but not for transgendered
people".  Are we facing a confusion of the issues?  Is the platform to
ideologically diverse?  I guess the real question is, Can it be easily 
construed as such?  The masses will bite at what they will and we have
little control over it.  Tom explained the platform well in the previous
post.  It cleared up a lot of questions which I had.  We will not be
able to do the same for everyone.  We must be aware of this and be ready
and able to defend them.  The initial post has made it clear.  

I'm sorry this wasn't too developed.  I am incoherent and sick.
-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
               SILENCE = DEATH      Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg 
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From: prufrock@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scot N Gibson)
Subject: Re: Aladdin
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 09:50:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.063356.19939@serval.net.wsu.edu> gerkman@binky.csc.wsu.edu (Joseph M. Gerkman) writes:
>As for Aladdin, what a hunk!  I was standing in line at the grocery store  
>and peered into People this month...they had a picture of the kid who was  
>the voice behind Aladdin...and he's rather cute, and he does resemble  
>Aladdin quite a bit...although, during my morning exercises I saw the  
>weather guy from Today(?) interview Tom Cruise and he mentioned that  
>Aladdin was modeled a bit after Tom at least according to the animator.   
>But for me...I'm gonna go on believing it's this cute kid from People...

I read that certain striking features, like Aladdin's straight-off-
the-forehead-nose, were modeled after Tom Cruise.  Also, to make his
movements aesthetic, the animators studied the moves of Hammer.
Believe it or not.  

>
>Joe Gerkman
>gerkman@binky.csc.wsu.edu

--scoT

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu (John S. Bibb)
Subject: Re: Devil CD's
Reply-To: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:04:38 GMT

In article 25715@athena.mit.edu, Charlie Fulton <charlie@isis.mit.edu> () writes:
> In article <1992Dec11.044952.1962@news.duc.auburn.edu> John S. Bibb,
> jbibb@eng.auburn.edu writes:
> >In a bit of nostalgia, I pulled out the ole vinyl recordings of D^2 just
> this
> >very evening.  I've forgotten how BAD records sound compared to CD's.
> >
> 
> Yeah, yeah, yeah.  CD's have a wider dynamic range, but the sound
> reproduction within vinyl's narrower range is superior.  Kind of
> like an unbroken line as compared to CD's column chart.
> 
> Or as Neil Young puts it, "The mind is tricked, but the heart is
> sad."
> 
> Vinyl 4ever!
> 
> Charlie


Pops-hisses-skips...all things that my CD's don't do.  Oh well, I'm not about to 
go out and replace my record collection.  This is Planet Earth.

J.

Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: The MOW Platform (was Re: NOTICE - Details...)
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 03:06:49 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas):
>   Let's turn this around, if the inner sanctum were run by
> a bunch of libertarians and did some pretty good PR would
> you feel quite as comfortable? 

wrong question.  the correct question is: would you march?
answer: grinding my teeth.

> Most people are of the Jake-go-because-of-the-party mindset
> and will basically swallow any platform they are presented.

"most people are..."  i suppose the warning bells which
should have gone off when you wrote this sentence got muffled
by the sound of your ears grating against your buttocks.  at
any rate, your idea of why i'm marching is off base.  i have
stated my reason several times now.  if you can withdraw your
head long enough, an adult literacy class might provide you
with a bit of context...

> I'm sure this fact was not lost on the organizers, so they 
> had pretty much free reign to do as they pleased.

yeah, we've all organized against you, fool.

>   I don't believe his brain is capable of forming the concepts
> to know what it means one way or the other. But that's beside 
> the point.

this from the twink who describes AIDS as an "immediate
accidental problem" to be "transcended."
-- 
Queer Without A Cause!
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
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