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Date: 01 Sep 92 15:48:57 GMT
From: rm55+@pitt.edu (Rudolph T Maceyko)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Finding Exchange Names
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 677, Message 10 of 11

A few weeks ago, I sought a list of exchange names in area code 412.

I asked at the Pennsylvania Department of the Carnegie Library in
Pittsburgh and lo and behold, under a very small stack of papers was a
list of exchange names!

I was surprised that it was so readily available.

The librarian couldn't tell me how old it was, but it has "7-70"
printed at the bottom of it, so I'm assuming that's a date, even
though it seems too recent.  (I'm told, however, that the names
weren't completely abandoned here until about 1973 or so.)

I have typed in the list, if anyone is interested.  It also includes
some exchanges from area code 814.

By the way, the Carnegie doesn't keep telephone directories, even on
microfilm.  But they do have the City Directory, going way back to
1893 (?) or so (I didn't look at them since I had already found what I
wanted).


Rudy Maceyko <rm55+@pitt.edu>   Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania USA
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 00:30:19 -0500
From: Phillip.Dampier@f228.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Phillip Dampier)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: CWA Comments on AT&T Sales Office Closings
Reply-To: phil@rochgte.fidonet.org
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 677, Message 8 of 11

STATEMENT FROM CWA ON AT&T SALES OFFICE CLOSINGS

WASHINGTON -- "Once again, AT&T has put the whims of its top managers
above the well being of its workers and the communities where they
live and serve," charged Communications Workers of America Vice
President James Irvine.  "Their decision to close six customer service
offices later this year may satisfy some ill-conceived management
scheme, but hundreds of working people, thousands of family members,
and communities in six states will suffer."

"AT&T allows its managers to make decisions of this magnitude without
regard for the impact that it will have on the families and
communities affected," Irvine continued.  "The union has argued
against these kind of consolidations and re-organizations in the past,
because they ultimately work against AT&T's best interest."

"People are told that they can uproot their families and follow their
work, but that is very difficult for them.  And thousands of our
members have become high-tech migrant workers, following their work
from one closing office to the next.  Then the next manager decides to
redesign the business for no good reason, and people are uprooted and
displaced again.  It just doesn't make sense."

AT&T will announce next week the closing of six of its fourteen
customer sales and service offices.  The closing offices employ about
860 workers represented by the Communications Workers of America.  The
offices, which will close on December 1, 1992, are located in
Columbus, OH; Mobile, AL; Radnor, PA; St. Cloud, MN; Wauwatosa, WI;
and Parsippany, NJ.
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 05:30:36 GMT
From: kwang@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kevin Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Unusual Part Search
Organization: The Outland Riders
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 680, Message 9 of 9

I'm looking for something like an RJ45, the eight position jack,
except that I only need a six conductor cable.  I've dug through all
of my catalogs, books, and whatnot, and can't find a single thing,
except for the 8P/8C jacks.  Does anyone have a source?

What I need them for is ISDN.  We're about to be the first commercial
users here in San Luis Obispo County, Calif, except that we want to
wire the house ourselves.  We already have 9 phones lines in the
house, so we will have no difficulty wiring (I just went out and
bought another 200' of nine-pair cable), so that's not the issue.


Kevin Wang   kwang@hermes.calpoly.edu or kwang@gauss.elee.calpoly.edu
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:23:30 GMT
From: sullivan@riemann.geom.umn.edu (John M. Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Bad Connection to MCI
Organization: Geometry Center, Univ. of Minnesota
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 680, Message 3 of 9

A friend of mine just moved to a new apartment yesterday, here in
Minneapolis.  Her phone was connected by US West on schedule.  She had
requested MCI Dial-1 service, and had told MCI about her new number so
that her account billing and F+F circle, etc would be transferred
over.

But she couldn't dial 1 + area + number yesterday.  I suggested trying
10222 + 1 + area + number, but this behaved exactly the same way.
After a ring or two, we heard the message "Your call cannot be
completed as dialed.  Please check the number and dial again.  2EB"
(no doo-wee-dee tones at the beginning)` This same message was heard
when dialing 1-700-555-4141.  I then tried placing a long distance
call with ATT (10288) and Sprint (10333).  Both of these worked fine.

This, and the "2EB" code in the message, led me to believe that the
problem was MCI's.  But my friend had called MCI earlier, and they
said it must be that US West hadn't set up the long distance right.
She had called US West, who had promised to get the repair department
to select MCI for Dial-1 by noon today.  She had been told by MCI to
try dialing 10222 + 00 to get an MCI operator, who could put through
the call, which had worked.

I tried calling MCI last night, and tried to explain that the 2EB
message must be theirs, and that I wasn't interested in the Dial-1
service, but only in being able to use 10222 + 1 +.  The woman finally
agreed to get my local USWest customer service rep on the line
three-way.  They were both agreeing that my problems were due to
USWest not having put in the Dial-1 choice properly, and I couldn't
convince them otherwise.

At one point the conversation went:

USW: Is your pick code two-twenty-two?
me:  Yes.
USW: Is she [MCI] still on the line?
me:  I don't know.
MCI: Oh.  What?
USW: Is your pick code two-twenty-two?
MCI: What's a pick code?
me:  You know, like one-oh-two-two-two.
MCI: Oh, I've never heard it called a pick code. [Neither had I]

Does anyone out there know what's going on here?

What message should I hear when dialing 1-700-555-4141 if no carrier
is selected for Dial-1?

(If I dial 10-xxx-1-700-555-4141 for a random choice of "xxx", I hear
a very long pause with some touchtones in the background, and finally
"doo-wee-dee Your call failed.  Please try again".)

Thanks for any info.


John Sullivan
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 02:13:01 GMT
From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: More Phone Line Woes
Organization: Westmark, Inc.
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 683, Message 9 of 10

In article <telecom12.663.4@eecs.nwu.edu>, ddl@das.harvard.edu (Dan
Lanciani) writes:

> What is the purpose of listening only to my line?  I suspect they
> wanted to show that the dropouts were coming from my phone/wiring.

It would seem that by their own tests, they have proved that the
problem is _not_ in your wiring or in your telephone set.

I'm curious -- is your line metallic to the central office, or are you
served by a SLC somewhere in your loop?  A friend here in NJ had a
similar problem (I heard drop-outs when talking with him, but he
didn't hear them).  NJ Bell replaced a line card in a SLC-96 remote
terminal in his neighborhood, and the problem went away. 


Dave Levenson	  Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc.
Warren, NJ, USA	  UUCP: {uunet | rutgers | att}!westmark!dave
Warren, NJ, USA	  Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 17:16:38 EDT
From: kab@hotstone.att.com (Kenneth A Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Hearing Radio on the Phone
Organization: AT&T
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 666, Message 5 of 13

In article <telecom12.662.7@eecs.nwu.edu>, rbook@owlnet.rice.edu
(Robert Aaron Book) writes:

> Recently I was talking on the phone to a friend of mine in Long Beach,
> California, and she told me a a repetitve problem she had been having
> on her phone -- whenever she used the phone, she heard a *radio*
> *station* on her phone line.  I listened carefully, found that, on the
> other end of the line, I heard the same thing (only when I was talking
> to her), only not as loud.  We identified the radio station as KFI
> (640 AM, Los Angeles).

> [Moderator's Note: There are line filters available which will cure
> this problem. The telco has no special responsibility to handle the

As it happens, I have one of these line filters in my desk, a Z100A
radio interference filter sold in AT&T phone stores.  Quote:

PURPOSE: The Radio Interference Filter is designed to eliminate
extraneous noises from local AM band radio stations that you might
hear through the receive of your phone.  It will also minimize
interference from other sources such as FM band radio stations,
citizen band, and ham radios.

Hope you all find this useful.


Ken Becker kab@hotstone.att.com
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:27:22 GMT
From: kung@actin.ee.washington.edu (Darwei Kung)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Baby Bells and States
Organization: University of Washington
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 665, Message 3 of 15

Judge Harold Greene decided the fate of the Bell System.  His rulings
still stands today, and he is still the man who has the final say on
the fate of RBOCs.


Darwei Kung


[Moderator's Note: Actually, I believe one thing Greene did NOT say
was how many holding companies there had to be or how many telcos
would be assigned to each. I think AT&T was allowed to decide.  PAT]
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:30:11 -0700
From: Jeff Sicherman <sichermn@csulb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: GTE California Changes
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 666, Message 8 of 13

In article <telecom12.659.9@eecs.nwu.edu> HOLDREGE_MP <HOLDREGE+_MP%A1%
PacifiCare@mcimail.com> writes:

> John Higdon can no longer complain about the incompetant GTE reps in
> Thousand Oaks, CA. He soon will be able to complain about the
> incompetant GTE reps in North Carolina, Florida, and Texas.

> A GTE spokeman said that the job transfers are a part of a continuing
> effort to consolidate operations at company facilities in Texas, North
> Carolina and Florida, and to automate jobs now performed by humans.

  Does this mean they will be programming the computers to ignore and
throw away trouble tickets ?


Jeff Sicherman
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:01:43 MDT
From: jones@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu (Wayne Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Need Fiber Optic System
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 662, Message 5 of 14

Here I am again with another request for help.  I previously asked for
information on the Mitel SX-200 digital pbx.  Now I am wondering if
this is our best option.  Perhaps someone out there could help steer.

We have a small campus environment (8 buildings, 120 phones) situated
on top of a mountain (9200 ft. elev.) and lightning is our major
concern.  We've lost our AT&T pbx several times to the tune of $10k
in repairs.  I have already installed a fiber backbone for the
computer network, video distribution, etc., and now I am looking for a
way to put telephone distribution on the fiber as well.  I have heard
that 24 voice channels can be multiplexed onto a T1 line, then the T1
can be put on fiber.  T or F?  Is there maybe a better way to do this?
Can this be done with the Mitel SX-200 digital?

I guess what I need is to speak with a consultant with this sort of
expertise but I don't know one (hint, hint ;-).  At this point I will
be glad to hear from anyone.  Thanks in advance.


Wayne Jones                   email: jones@sunspot.noao.edu
National Solar Observatory    voice: 505-434-7043
P.O. Box 62   Sunspot, NM  88349
Date: 26 Aug 1992 09:43:13 -0500
From: danodom@cutlass.ksu.ksu.edu (Dan Odom)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: What Does a CO Switch Cost?
Organization: Kansas State University
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 666, Message 12 of 13

A switch can cost a LOT.  Like another poster said, nobody will give
out exact information, including my school.  But I did some asking
around and heard a "rumor" that our switch ran about $10,000,000.  I
don't know if I believe this (they are barely willing to spring for
$130,000 in computer equipment), but it's a start.


Dan Odom    danodom@matt.ksu.ksu.edu      Send email for PGP key.
From: jsw@drbbs.omahug.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: City of Omaha to Tax telephone books!
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:15:45 GMT
Organization: DRBBS Technical BBS, Omaha
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 663, Message 1 of 8

Imagine this conversation ...

Officer: I'm afraid I'm gonna have ta take ya downtown, Mac.
Citizen: But wha'd I do, officer ??
Officer: I don't see a tax stamp on that phone book you're carrying.

But seriously, the Omaha City Council has passed a $.25 tax on
telephone directories with the stated purpose <quote> to encourage
recycling <end quote>.  The Omaha city budget is facing a shortfall in
the megabuck range, and this is one solution, along with such items as
raising the 'temporary' wheel tax.

According to television station WOWT ...

'Another revenue-raiser passed by the City Council today would put a
$.25 tax on telephone directories.  We've got a dollar's worth of tax
right here.  (announcer holds up four directories) It is promoted as a
tax to encourage recycling -- US West questions that.'

(cut to tape of Dick Johnson, US West representative)

Johnson: 'If the council truly believes that this tax is necessary to
resolve landfill problems, they must apply the tax to these other
entities also, particularly to newspapers.'

Omaha is blessed with having two full-service phone directories, now
both available in full-size and yuppie-cellular size.  ;-) One is, of
course, the 'real' US West book, and the other is that black-covered
'phony' one put out by some other company.  I've heard merchants gripe
about having to shell out twice since the second company came to town.

I will say one thing about the competition.  Before they came to town,
it was like pulling teeth to get a book from Ma Bell.  Since the
competition came, both books are available everywhere.

In my opinion, the Omaha book should have been split into white and
yellow books long ago.  Now I doubt it will happen, since I doubt if
either company would want to be the only one without a 'handy'
white-pages section.

I wonder how they will enforce this tax.  Because it's a city tax, it
cannot extend past the city limits.  (We live about two blocks
outside.)  If it's on books distributed within the city, I can see
PILES of new books sitting at supermarkets just outside the limits,
with them being few and far between within the city.


Good day.     JSW
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: GTE Thinks I live in 213
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:43:17 GMT
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 656, Message 2 of 10

john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) writes:

> aimla!ruby!rudholm@uunet.UU.NET (Mark Rudholm) writes:

>> Can't somebody put GTE out of our misery??!!!

> Well, you could always do what a major client of mine is in the
> process of doing. Ignoring advice to not locate a billing center in
> GTE area, this outfit took space in a Long Beach industrial park. For
> the past year the GTE horrors have been non-stop.

> So next month Long Beach will lose a thriving company and Anaheim will
> gain one. Is it any wonder that the Town Council of Los Gatos passed a
> resolution condemning GTE?

I wonder if it'd be possible for a large group of business and
residential customers that have been shafted by GTE to somehow file a
class action suit against GTE?

If it is, and you win, I'll settle for .1% of the total judgement!


Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:14:44 GMT
From: aescherm@iastate.edu (A Person of Awareness)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Cell Phones in the Air
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 672, Message 6 of 12

The reason that you can't use a cell phone on an airplane is so you
can't call for a rescue team to save you from the food.  =-)

Although, it WOULD be fun to order from Dominos while in the air.

"Yeah, that's right I'm only a mile or two away.  My address?  Oh
well, let's just say I'm passing through."  =-)


Anthony Clifton
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:52:55
From: gingold@strident.think.com (David Gingold)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Computer/Phone Interface
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 675, Message 10 of 12

I'm looking for hardware which will interface either a PC or a Mac to
a phone line.  It should be able digitize and play back sound and send
and receive DTMF (Touch Tone) signals.  A built-in DSP chip would be
nice but is not strictly necessary.  I'm willing to write my own
software.

Can anyone provide tips on what equipment is available and what is
good?


dg
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:44:20 GMT
From: sbrenner@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.d.brenner)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Is It OK To Leave Cell Phone Battery Charger Plugged In?
Organization: AT&T
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 675, Message 9 of 12


I have an OKI 891 transportable cellular phone that has a 12V NiCd
battery (number RP 9021A/64-21055, if it matters).  The charger for
this battery (model RP9022A) doesn't have any warnings against leaving
it plugged in all the time.  My question is: would this be all right
(leaving it plugged in)?

On a related matter, why does my FM radio at work seem to get much
better reception when the cell phone battery charger is plugged into
the same power strip?


a T d H v A a N n K c S e

Scott D. Brenner    AT&T Consumer Communications Services
Basking Ridge, NJ   scott@cimu03.att.com  -or-  sbrenner@attmail.com
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:01:24 GMT
From: smp@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Shailesh M. Potnis)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: How Can I Splice Telephone Wires Without an Overkill?
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 662, Message 4 of 14

	I am in the process of installing a modem and a few extra
telephone outlets.  I have a few pieces of indoor telephone cable
which I used to use at my previous address.  If I have to splice them
together to run a longer distance, I have to add two male connectors
at each splicing ends and thn use an inline female connector to
connect the male connectors.  I see this grossly redundant.  Is there
a terminal or connector which splices two ends of a telephone cable to
make a longer one?  Essentially what I would emagine would be similar
to the two male connectors fused together.

	All comments and suggestions are highly appreciated.

	Thanks in advance.


Shailesh Potnis, Associate	|Concurrent Engineering Research
Member of Technical Staff	|Center, West Virginia University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 20:15:40 -0700
From: konstan@postgres.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Konstan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Sprint and Network 2000 Sued by Sellers of Long Distance
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 658, Message 6 of 6

The {San Francisco Chronicle} August 18 Business Briefs Section has a 
short under the title:

	Sprint is Accused of Pyramid Scheme

To summarize, 52 resellers in 18 states have sued Sprint and Network
2000 (a marketing company whose only client is Sprint) charging that
they were recruited into an illegal pyramid scheme and were denied
commissions.  The suit demands $25,000 per plaintiff.


Joe Konstan
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 11:53:56 GMT
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Monitoring of Broadcasts
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 671, Message 6 of 9

voorhis@aecom.yu.edu (Adrienne Voorhis) writes:

> jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell)> writes:

>> It is illegal to disclose anything heard on any Radio Frequency in any
>> mode other than public broadcast, Amateur Radio, and that's about it.
>> This means that you can own a scanner and listen to the police, even
>> covert operations (I listen to very interesting operations from time
>> to time) but you _may not_ disclose those communications to any one
>> else.

> Could someone please explain how the federal government can allow
> you to legally monitor such broadcasts but can stop you from
> disclosing what was heard?  I'm not a First Amendment lawyer, but it
> would seem to me that if you lawfully became aware of information,
> that the government could not muzzle you from discussing what you have
> legitimately obtained.

Check the Communications Act of 1933. That's where this comes from.
And I think it's a matter of them *allowing* you to listen to private
communications that cross yourproperty via radio. But you aren't
allowed to distribute the info to others.

It's stood up in court for a *long* time. And it is a situation that
is not all that black and white. I believe that some folks have
actually argued in court along the lines of "if I'm not allowed to
listen to it, make them stop sending it to me!"

With the exception of the nonense about cellular phone monitoring that
crept into ECPA, this policy still holds pretty well. The only real
change was that you are not allowed to decrypt transmissions that have
been encryupted for purposes of privacy.


Leonard Erickson		      leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com
CIS: [70465,203]			 70465.203@compuserve.com
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[Moderator's Note: The argument which goes 'make them stop sending it
to me and bombarding me with radio waves' has been tested in court on
various occassions and always found by the court to be specious and
puerile.  Its like arguing about income taxes on the basis of whether
the IRS is legally allowed to do it; ie, the irregularities under
which the income tax came into being, the vote in Ohio, etc.  The
court says 'YOU LOSE!'  PAT]