From: cs331333@zippy.acslab.umbc.edu (cs331333)
Subject: Re: Atari inof.kit (Flame warning on)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:41:57 GMT

To: PhBill: Bill Kendrick
At: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us

Please reply if you receive this, i've never sent bit-net mail (if the
!!!'s mean bitnet) from this site.

In answer to your article in comp.sys.atari.8bit

> Article: 7667 of comp.sys.atari.8bit
> From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
> Subject: Current Notes
>
> [body of message deleted]

I haven't recieved an Info.Kit for whatever it was you were talking about.
I haven't asked for one yet, so please send me one.

I'm assuming its ascii text that I can print out on a standard printer.
I'm assuming, I pay nothing, just print it out and mail it in to show
my support for an 8-bit magazine which would also be free, and distributed
to the net.  No ST/TT garbage unless its talking about networking the 2.

I am planning on networking an atari800xl to a i80486/33 using desqview
and public domain software/a null modem cable.  I might also buy one
of those gadgets that simulate an atari serial drive (or two :))
I used to run a VERY fast atari bulliten board with a 2400baud modem
and a 1meg M/IO from ICD.

I would also be willing to write articles for any 8bit atari magazine about
these and related topics.

I'm assuming the magazine is going to be net distributed at no charge and
with someone (authorized) providing hardcopys mailed to people for cost.
Ie for people in foreign countries, etc.. who have no net access.
ie cost for paper, ink, postage only.. if noone will send a free copy.

I've also never heard of 'current news', so any info you could provide
on that would be helpful.

*** mild flame on

I don't want to be rude, but the message recieved by me on comp...8
seemed to be the classic 'hey, lets jump on the bandwagon'-commercial
type message.  Although, its fine for convincing high school age
students..  sigh..

I just think it would be better if you just gave a more factual based
message that sums up previously known info that can be distributed and
taken serious.  This is very serious to me.  Atari 8bits are very powerful
machines in their own way (Thats why very fast machines can't simulate
them without additional hardware).  I spent ~$110.00 about 2 weeks ago
to buy a new one, since my old one died.  There are some very talented
hackers (in the good sence of hacker) that stick by their machines.

I also think a 'net available magazine' is a great idea.  It provides
a powerful medium to HELP people get the most out of a machine that
atari dis-associated themselves with a long time ago.  I provides a
means for comunicating with atari, other companies and showing our
support.  Without any need for them to advertise because there is no
profit involved..  Just 8bit-atari-lovers sharing info.

> FOR ANY OF YOU WHO >GOT< THE INFO.KIT, BUT HAVE NOT SENT THE POSTCARD 
> BACK I WILL >PERSONALLY< GO OVER TO YOUR HOUSE AND >KILL< YOU!!!

just an example of why this mild flame.. note the uppercase letters,
the word 'kill' and the lack of fundamental info in this sentence...
Note that alot of people reading this message have young children.

*** mild flame off

Since atari...8 is not really one of the more high volume newsgroups,
I think I will post a copy of this message there for us 8-biters
to gawk at...

I also, eagerly await info on this 8-bit electronic magazine and will
be sure to distribute it when it get it.

For those with acces to 'irc' try looking for me in the #atari group!
I seem to be the only 8bit one there but, as always, it seems the atari
group contains highly educated people, who share ideas, and progams
freely..  lots of them speak german too.. for you german speakers.

I'm known as FreeBird when I'm on, although I've been using the handle/
nickname free-bird too cuz, some bozo keeps stealing my handle and 
idling.  Just check, if he's from germany, its not me, if he's from
USA, ????.umbc.edu, its me..

	Cuz I'm free as a bird now.  
	And this bird you can not change.
	Oh..Oh..Oh..Oh..Oh..Oh..
	And this bird you can not change.
		-Lynyrd Skynyrd (Free Bird)

	Dave Steibel (cs331333@umbc5.umbc.edu)
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  <--- send replys here !

PS sorry for any mispelling, but I'm just a poor, overworked college student..
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