From: ca1cs456@troi.cc.rochester.edu (ca1cs456 Grad Student)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: NONE
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:01:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Apr13.170127.6812
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Having monitored the newsgroup for a while, I am getting sick and
tired of the "discussions" (aka flames) in the net.  I used to make
some hardcopy of the most laughable ones to a couple of teachers
whom I still keep in contact, hoping that when they were invited to
restructure the education system, they would keep in mind that we
need to educate some people (eg Zam) to be more open-minded, and
to understand the history, culture and people of Malaysia...  We
not only need an assimilation of Chinese into the community but also
the Malays into the community as well as any other ethnic groups in
Malaysia.  And we need the people in the position to make changes
to our society to know that and to speak for us.
    By the way, the Malaysian Chinese are very different from those
in other countries, even those in Singapore.  Our food is different
(ever visit the Chinese restaurant ran by the mainland Chinese?),
our slang and accent of dialects are different (I can bearly understand
the Cantonese from HK.  And the people at the public market in S'pore
kept on talking to me in Hokkien...  Maybe I should talk to them in
Hakka or even Cantonese.), our culture and superstitious differs and
we think different.  We don't think Communism is at-the-least-okay!
Why?  My grandparents buddled up my dad to run away to Malaysia when
the KMT and Mao were fighting over the house/mansion as the headquarters
in the area.  They started with nothing in Pahang.  My grandmother
worked and grandfather taught the children to read and write. (Gee,
they have double income family then...)  The children helped by making
matches.  Not long later, my grandfather was suspected to be a 
Communist because he was a scholar and he taught books/materials from
China.  The army/Malays executed him in a concentration camp -- dugged
a ditch and lined everyone and shot blindly.  Yes, we had concentration
camp, and we never recovered his body.  My grandmother is a brave woman.
She went to Johor and started over again.  Does she have a valid
reason to hate the Malays?  Yes, all the army has to do was investigate
and look into the materials to find out they were none other than 
Chinese Poems/Literatures.  Does my grandmother hate the Malays or 
the army?  No.  She doesn't.  She used to speak the best nyonya-type
of Malay with our Malay neighbours, until they moved.  Why does Zam
hate Chinese?  What is his reasons to do so?  
    I don't hate Malays.  In fact, I don't hate anybody.  But I don't
hold a grain of respect to people who are corrupted, abusive and are
good-for-nothing.  A lot of the politicians in Malaysia falls into this
group.  These are some of the lowest life-forms that Malaysia has ever
shamefully produce.  


Personally I think Zam is making a very wise move and well as a stupid
move with all his postings.  (I was so bored one day, I picked up a 
Time magazine and read about the presidential campaign on Bill Clinton.)
There was this personal letter to the chief of ROTC during the draft
for the VWar.  He wrote (not in the real words, but refer in this Feb
somedate issue), "I am now resigning from ROTC and taking my chances
with the draft...  because this is the only way to allow me to be
involved this nations politics in the future..."
    I think Zam is trying to keep the doors open by not stepping on
anything that will jeopardize his chances in politics (eg criticizing
the govt and Dr M).  At the same time, he realizes that the Kelantan
Sultan could be "reformed" and "coaxed into apologizing to the govt"
once Zam himself gets to the Sultan.  (Perhaps the Sultan has a young
daughter.  Well, political marriages are not uncommon, are they?)  Hey,
maybe Zam is related to the Sultan of Kelantan.  Logical?  My
bet is that Zam is planning every move, and intends to plan it well
ahead of everybody. (which is why he studies the mistakes of Hitler 
in order not to make the same mistakes?)  Zam wants to be the "N"th
PM of Malaysia.  Man, it is not impossible...  Zam is about 20 now.
When Anwar (assuming he is next) were to step down 15-20 years from
present, Zam is just at the right age...  With his credentials of
MIT education, and his zealous defense of the NEP, I am sure he could
easily fool the people into voting his way...  as long as he curbs his
use of foul language...
    The point is that old news never dies.  It fades away but will 
eventually come back and haunt you.  I distantly remember reading some
place that people suspected that President JFK was going to withdraw
from Vietnam base on a paper he wrote in Harvard, citing, "if necessary,
the use of force is the best solution..."  Oh, Zam, I present you with
a good counter-argument to people who might dig up your postings when
you run for PM next time:  (learnt from Michael Crichton's Rising Sun,
a novel of suspense, murder and slight politics)  "video and pictures
(articles) cannot be used in court anymore.  Pattern matching and image
alteration has become so advanced that it can be altered and realtered
to frame a person..."  Just pretend everything is bullshit and you
don't know anything about it.  Don't try to use the ISA to cover things
up by "taking care of" the people who voice against you though...  Nixon
(or his people) tried to cover up...  Fifth amendment or just admit you
were wrong is the best way to go.  "A lie is like a snowball -- the longer
it is rolled, the larger it gets."  Turn back before it is too late.
(I wonder - won't the snowball melt during the summer?)

    I think people have come up with more reasons not to attend labs than
I can handle...  "You see, it's my birthday today.  A couple of friends
planned a surprise for me, and I couldn't get away..."  "I told the 
professor..."  "I was sick for a whole week during that time -- flu"
And they always call you in the last minute to schedule for a make-up
lab during the week that the labs are due.  I was told not to "intimidate"
the students because they are non-EE majors, and that we shouldn't treat
them the same as the EE majors because they are somewhat less EE-minded!
My, my.  Quota systems exist everywhere, don't they?  And the students
thought I was there to give them a hard time!