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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:05:46 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND

Sandy, stuck in a fitba' backwater reminded me that I forgot to give out the
team in the report.

Goram, McCall, D. Robertson, Gordon, Brown, Nisbet, Steven, Ferguson (S.
Robertson), McCoist (captain), Hateley, Huistra

What was the Celtic score?

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From: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Re: Thai Soccer : Sep 24-27
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Reply-To: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:27:52 GMT

Finally I am reading some soccer news from Asia (SE Asia in particular).
Thanks for posting it.

Kelvin
From: paul@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Re:Souness Gets Vote, and some questions
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:57:13 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Oct2.101923.2534@wg.estec.nl>, chris@wg.estec.esa.nl 
(Milquetoast) writes:

> I suspect the board are far more interested in success than they are in how
> much compensation they have to pay - unless things have changed in recent
> years. An ex-pat (as in no longer in Liverpool) scouser once told me that the
> big difference between Forest and Liverpool, was that Forest kept their money
> in the bank while Liverpool kept theirs on the pitch.

Sadly, things have changed a little at Anfield - enormous expenditure (6m or so
pounds) on the new Kemlyn Road stand has made tremendous inroads into funds
which would otherwise have been available for players. Admission charges have
gone up to the extent that crowds are tending to decrease and income is not up
as much as they maybe hoped. There is also a tendency for players to have to be
sold to finance purchases to an extent not seen before at Anfield but fairly
common elsewhere. Souness certainly must look enviously at Dalglish's ability
to flash the chequebook around at Blackburn.

> My guess is that if Liverpool go out in the return leg to Chesterfield, he'll
> be on his bike. Assuming they win that as long as they can tread water
> (winning and loosing in more or less equal amounts) 'til some of the injuries
> are over he'll be safe. And once the injury `crisis' is over he'll be judged
> by more usual Liverpool criteria,

Inclined to agree, and much as one would might be pleased to see Souness
disappearing into the night astride his bike, exit at the hands of Chesterfield
is too great a price to pay. Souness's comments following a rather scrappy win
on Saturday suggest that he is a very worried man - it's hard to feel that on
the basis of that display the corner has been turned, but then funnier things
have happened in football.

Regards

Paul 
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From: cixc0000@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Karyn Nelson)
Subject: Re: J.C SUPERSTAR not good enough for Scotland
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:14:07 GMT

: s.For people who are not acquainted Glasgow Rangers medieval signing policy.
: Glasgow Rangers do not have any Roman Catholics on their playing staff.They hav
: e only ever had one (Mr.Mo"Do you want to buy a shellsuit"Jhonston)in almost
: 120 year history.Yes Netnews readers Rangers are bigots and are not ashamed of
: it.
: So Sandy and Scott if you are real big supportter of your club why dont you con
: dem this absurd nonsence.?

More shite from the Sellick Paranoia Factory.
With McAllister and Durrant established on the left of midfield for
Scotland, we don't need any more left-footers.

As for the reference to no Tims at Ibrox, since 1986 Rangers have only
bought the best players available - it's not our fault if Catholic players
don't come up to the standards expected by Rangers FC.  Not that we wouldn't
sign them if they were available, Johnston only left because he was not
a regular in the first team anymore, and John Spencer (another Catholic)
couldn't break through into the first team.

We also tried to sign Ray Houghton (Glasgow born), but the Fenian b*****d
would not betray his priest by joining the Gers.  And to compound it all
he then sold his soul to Republicanism by turning his back on Scotland
to represent Eire. (What a show of loyalty).

However, if we ever need goalkeeping backup for Goram or Maxwell we
could sign Barnet keeper Andy Pape.  Maybe that would keep the Beggars
minds off Rangers and onto the iniquity of Celtic's all Catholic Board.

McEwan's Lager - serve cold.
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From: jbrogan@vax1.tcd.ie
Subject: DENMARK v IRELAND - TICKETS WANTED
Organization: Trinity College Dublin
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:37:21 GMT


Hi,

As the Denmark v. Republic of Ireland match in Copenhagen on October 14th
next is a sell-out and the F.A.I. have only received an allocation of 
4,200 tickets which have been taken up, could any Danes out there tell
me if there is any possibility of buying tickets in Copenhagen prior to 
the match?  If so, what prices?

There seems to be a large number of Irish fans travelling to Copenhagen 
without tickets and hoping to buy them on the black market.


Thanks.

John.     
                 e-mail     john_brogan@eurokom.ie
From: nananuku@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Re:Souness Gets Vote
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:24:49 GMT

> Votes of confidence usually mean they have already talked to somebody else but
> are haggling about salary and conditions etc...My favourites for the job are
> 
> John Toshack
> Alan Hansen
> Ronnie Moran (Going back to the traditional backroom set up)

  Toshack seems to be a good choice because of his managerial 
experience in the past several years. Hansen is also a good
choice. He had been with Liverpool for a long time and is
certainly well respected. I am sure he understands the Liverpool's
system which had made Liverpool the most successful club in England
in the past decade. Moran has always been and will be a great 
assistant.

> Jimmy Greaves
> Ron Atkinson (Isn't he about due to move on, he's been at Villa far too long..
> 	      he must be going soft).
 
  A former Man U. manager to be the BOSS in Liverpool? No way!

> Maybe as an outsider Mark Lawrenson although his foray into the management side
> of things wasn't too successful if I recall (but Brian Horton did well after
> taking over).
> 
> Any thoughts on who the new boss will be?

  How about Phil Neal?

S.N.
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Subject: FA Cup 2nd Qualifying Round - 26 Sep 1992
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:05:54 +0000







FA Cup 2nd Qualifying Round, 26th Sep 1992

There were 72 ties played on Saturday. Results involving ex-League clubs or
their successors:

Blyth Spartans     6    WORKINGTON          0
GATESHEAD          5    Whitby Town         2
SOUTHPORT          2    Chadderton          0
Warrington Town    0    STALYBRIDGE CELTIC  3
ACCRINGTON STANLEY 2    BRADFORD PARK AVE   0
Gresley Rovers     1    GAINSBOROUGH TRIN.  4
NORTHWICH VICTORIA 0    Raunds Town         2
NEWPORT AFC        3    Worcester City      0

Other notable results:

Frickley Ath       8    Halesowner Harriers 2
Mossley            1    Pelsall Villa       2
Bourne Town        4    Moor Green          8
Cambridge City     6    Norwich United      1

Best results were Raunds Town (United Counties League Premier Div) beating
Northwich Vics of the GMVC and Pelsall Villa of the West Midlands Regional
League knocking out Mossley (Northern Premier).

BBC TV news on Saturday night had an item on the Accrington v. Bradford match,
and showed both the goals. Stanley are now away at Conference side Stalybridge
Celtic in two weeks time.

I was at Altrincham v. Sheffield. Sheffield, founded in 1857, are the oldest 
club in the world. Alty were a goal up before the match should have even
started, they kicked off three minutes early and took the lead from a corner
in the second minute. Alty's second five minutes before half time was really
spectacular, the left back chested the ball down just inside the Sheffield half,

strode on 15 yards and hit a half-volley from 30 yards out that the goalie
hardly saw. Sheffield pulled a goal back with 15 minutes left, but Alty sealed
it with a third goal, a perfectly placed glancing header, just before the end.
It was an easy 3-1 win against opposition three divison below them in the
pyramid. The crowd was only about 400 or so, about half Altrincham's average.

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From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Subject: Re: 1FC Ko"ln v. Celtic (Glasgow variety)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:15:10 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD

>>   /******************************************************/
>>     |\/\/\/|  	"I WILL NOT SUPPORT FC COLOGNE       "
>>     |      |     	"I WILL NOT SUPPORT FC COLOGNE       "
>>     | (o)(o)   	"I WILL NOT SUPPORT FC COLOGNE       "
>>     C      _)    	"I WILL NOT SUPPORT FC COLOGNE       "
>>      | ,___|    	"I WILL NOT SUPPORT FC COLOGNE       "
>>      |   /     	"I WILL NOT SUPPORT F.........       "
>>   /******************************************************/
>

>BTW you are the ignorant so called expert: It is 1.FC Cologne....Haha
>
It's neither of the two you twits. It's 1. FC Koeln.

Nat!

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Ask what you can do for your boyfriend"       
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From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Gazza injures himself, again. :-( (Re: Liverpool-Chesterfield)
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:28:17 GMT
X-Phone: +44 703 593257

In <1992Sep28.024231.5337@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> marco@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni) writes:

>From what I understood, the "injury" was rather light and came on
>a rough tackle. This should not prevent him from playing again in
>the near future. I think that Zoff did not want him to get too
>banged-up in his first few games, and made him sit out the second
>half, not to mention that he's not in the best of shape...

Having watched the whole first half, I thought Gazza looked to be well
down on his full fitness, and his touch was more than a little off.
He looked good on the ball, but he didn't make a single tackle and his
passing was not particularly inventive.  But he did look like he knew
how he would fit in to the team and I think in a month or so we should
see him nearer his best.  I don't think he's at all ready to play for
England against Norway, but it would be good to have him in the squad
to gee the other players up.

The knee inury he went off with was on the same knee his operation was on.
He was pointing at the muscle on the outer back side of the knee, whatever
that is!  He played the last two minutes of the half running gingerly,
and managed to walk off with only a slight limp.

It's great to have Italian soccer back live on TV after it was ditched
by Sky (a real big mistake).  It would be good to see games not involving
Lazio though :-)

Tim
From: csfraw@suopursu.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: MAN UTD RULES
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:08:43 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@suopursu.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <Qelu0y_00Uh7A8WHxh@andrew.cmu.edu> am5q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andy Yin Meau) writes:
>Dear fellow soccer followers,
>
>    I have to say that Manchester United is the best team in the
>European Continent.  They were robbed by Leeds Utd last season.  Bryan
>Robson is still going to be a main force on Manchester United, you all
>just watch him on 9/29 when they play Torpedo.
>
>                                                Andy

Keep on dreaming :-) Its healthy


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Subject: Re: Australian News from Eddie Thompson
From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:23:38 GMT
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep28.154908.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au>, c9036719@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (WILDTHING....YOU MAKE MY HEART SING) writes:
> * All overseas players are available for the match against New Zealand in May.
> This means that Australia will have a full squad for the first time in years.
> Eddie told me that up to 7 or 8 players will be replaced from his current
> Aussie line-up.

Good - we don't want you guys whining about unavailable players when we beat
you :-). Somehow I can't see the New Zealand team being in the same happy
position :-(.

> * Eddie Thompson said that if Australia doesn't beat New Zealand than
> Australian soccer is ratshit and doesn't deserve any recognition.

S'funny you guys never have been very good losers :-). Obviously Eddie had sunk
a few by the time this little gem came out - I wonder if he would still feel
the same should New Zealand beat Australia and go on to qualify for the finals.

> * It looks likely that there will be a huge tornament in January next year
> with Denmark the only certainty yet.

Will there be an invitation to New Zealand to compete? After all isn't
promoting football in the area as important as playing friendlies against
European sides?

Alan
From: S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: RESULTS PLEASE !!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:36:52 GMT

Would some kind soul please post the results of the following EuroCups 1st
round 2nd leg games:

1.) "Porto" - "Union"(Luxembourg) (EC1, 1st leg 4:1)
2.) "Avenir"(Luxembourg) - "Spartak"(Moscow, Russia) (EC2, 1st leg 0:0)
3.) "Boavista" - "Valur"(Iceland) (EC2, 1st leg 0:0)
4.) "Admira"(Austria) - "Cardiff City"(Wales) (EC2, 1st leg 1:1)
5.) "Atletico"(Madrid) - "Branik"(Maribor, Slovenia) (EC2, 1st leg 3:0)
6.) "Rapid"(Vienna) - "Dinamo"(Kiev) (EC3, 1st leg 0:1)
7.) "Vitoria"(Guimaraes, Portugal) - "Real Sociedad" (EC3, 3:0)

PLEASE post them or send them to "s947607@umslvma.umsl.edu" !!! Thank you
VERY MUCH in advance.
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From: larsaa@ifi.uio.no (Lars Thore Aarhus)
Subject: Re: European Cup Results for Italian Teams (Oct. 1 Games)
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:17:36 GMT
Originator: larsaa@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Oct1.225042.20662@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, marco@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni) writes:

> 
> 			    UEFA Cup
> 		    First Round - Second Leg
> 
> Torino (Italy)			3	IFK Norkoeping (Norway)		0
>    Vottovara   '2 (o.g.)                                      ^^^^^^
>    Casagrande '33 (2nd)
>    Aguilera   '34 (2nd)
> 
> (Torino win on aggregate 3-1)
> 
> Torino went ahead quickly in the match, thanks to and own-goal by
> Vartovara of the Norweigian team. Although ahead by a goal, Torino
                   ^^^^^^^^^^
> still needed at least one more if they wanted to avoid extra time.
> Late in the second half, Torino was assured qualification when
> Casagrande, on a pass by Silenzi, and Aguilera added two more quick
> goals. Silenzi came in for Mussi two minutes before the first
> Casagrande goal, and Torino's offensive thrust, caught the visiting
> team by surprise...
> 

 IFK Norrkoeping is a Swedish team NOT Norwegian , so please
don't spoil our reputation as one of the nations without a defeat
in the second leg :-) (Who care if they all went out on aggregate :-))

 On second thoughts, maybe this should be taken as a sign of the
growing interest in Norwegian soccer because usually when people 
mix up they do it the other way round  i.e Norway is the capital
of Sweden..... :-)

> 
> So all 6 Italian teams make it through to the net round. Not a bad
> start...
> 
> Marco...
> --

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From: gt0702a@prism.gatech.EDU (Muzaffer Kayhan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Turkish Soccer Results, 6th Round
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:46:32 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

The following are the results of the games in the sixth week of play in the



Turkish 1st division.



Galatasaray:1 Trabzonspor:1



Altay:0 Fenerbahce:1



Konyaspor:2 Besiktas:2



Aydinspor:0 Bursaspor:1



Gaziantepspor:1 Karsiyaka:1



Ankaragucu:0 Kocaelispor:3



Bakirkoyspor:0 Kayserispor:0



Sariyer:1 Genclerbirligi:1

  


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From: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Juergen Schaepker)
Subject: Jan(n?) Jensen (was: Heinrik (?) Andersen)
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:07:13 GMT

fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:

>BTW, any news on the performance of Jann Jensen in K"oln? I understand
>he is a regulat libero now?

>/Lars

He played at least the last 3 games for Cologne, which were
vs Glasgow  2:0 (He scored and proved that he can organize the defence even
at an international level), vs Dortmund (was a very good game, considering
the great Drotmund-attack it was reasonable defense work with Jensen as the
best defender, Higl (like always) a moron and Baumann solid) and
at Moenchengladbach (the first win in the league, solid work).

BTW, is his name really Jann (or Jan) ?

CU
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From: stuart@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Stuttgart Latest
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:09:27 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

The decision over Stuttgart's future will be made tomorrow (3rd October) by
Uefa. If Leeds do go through then they get to play Rangers (last time they met
in Europe was 25 years ago i think, which Leeds won 2-0 on aggregate).

Due to seedings if Leeds had gone through against Stuttgart they couldn't
actually have been drawn against Rangers. It's a funny old game.

stuart
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: J.C SUPERSTAR not good enough for Scotland
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:24:00 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <1992Oct2.130125.9200@rdg.dec.com> spain@galvia.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>Not that it matters much but isn't Mark Hately a Roman Catholic and doesn't
>he still play for Rangers?  I only know he's Catholic because a Celtic
>fan told me.

You're right that it doesn't matter but as far we as are led to believe he's
not but who cares as he does the business on the park the light blues.

>BTW how do Rangers and Celtic fans know the religion of just about every
>player in Scotland.

For the size of population, Scotland is a very small community when it comes
to fitba' matters. There's always friends of friends who swap stories and
latest gossip in the pubs and that's how word get's around about all issues
pertaining to Scottish fitba'. An example of this is the signing of Mo
Johnston by Rangers. I knew about it a month before it happened yet the Daily
Record didn't until a day after.

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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Championsip of Sao Paulo - BR
Date: 1 Oct 1992 19:09:52 -0500
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 Championship of state of Sao Paulo , Brazil
 *******************************************

 Group A (Sep. 30th)

  Corinthians    1-1   Guarani
  Palmeiras      2-0   Ituano
  Juventus       2-1   Botafogo
  Noroeste       3-1   Santo Andre

 Group B (Sep. 30th)

  Ferroviaria    3-1   Novorizontino
  XV Jau         1-4   Mogi Mirim
  America        0-1   XV Piracicaba
  Catanduvense   1-2   Rio Branco
  Uniao Sao Joao 2-1   Sao Jose
  Aracatuba      0-0   Ponte Preta
  Olimpia        1-1   Marilia

 Group A
 -------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Corinthians     17   9   6   2    24-08     24
Sao Paulo       16   8   7   1    22-13     23
Guarani         17   5  10   2    18-15     20
Santos          16   6   7   3    22-13     19
Ituano          17   5   9   3    19-20     19
Palmeiras       17   5   8   4    11-08     18
------------------------------------------------
Noroeste        17   5   7   5    14-15     17
Bragantino      16   6   4   6    16-17     16
Portuguesa      16   4   8   4    17-13     16
Juventus        17   3   8   6    13-17     14
Sao Carlense    16   4   5   7    17-21     13
Botafogo        17   4   5   8    15-25     13
Santo Andre     17   2   9   6    11-19     13
Internacional   16   1   5  10    05-20     07

Group B
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Ponte Preta     18  10   7   1    30-17     27
Mogi Mirim      18  12   2   4    33-16     26
------------------------------------------------
Rio Branco      19  10   6   3    28-14     26
Uniao Sao Joao  19   8   8   3    25-19     24

 Next Games :   Group A
                Today      Santos     -  Sao Carlense
                           Sao Paulo  -  Internacional
                           Bragantino -  Portuguesa