HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Romanization (Was:  ore no baka (was: please no holy romanization wars))
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:51:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: capek.jwb.722137871
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> writes:

>It does prove my other argument about mixed usage of romanization
>though.  In typing in the corrections I typed `shasin' once, which
>mixes kunrei-shiki and Hepburn in the same word.  
 
No worries. I type that sort of mixture all the time. While I 
sort of default to Hebon when keying kana, I find myself using
kunrei (si, tu, ti, etc.) when it saves those precious keystrokes.
I can't bring myself to use "sya" instead of sha, though.

>However, such a
>mixture would not trouble a native Japanese or an experienced student
>at all. 

Does this mean I am an experienced student?  I've made it!

-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
PO Box 197 Caulfield East VIC 3145 Australia (ph) +61 3 573 2552 
(fax) +61 3 573 2345  AARNet/Internet:jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au
From: hash@ikarac5.ctrl.saitama-u.ac.jp (Toshihiko Hashimoto)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: _o_
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:22:06 GMT
Organization: Araki Lab., Electronic Engineering, Saitama Univ., Japan

In article <1992Nov17.204403.1@sscl.uwo.ca> sakimura@sscl.uwo.ca writes:
>> (^_^;)   I saw this in fj.* but don't know what it means. Big ear? I'm all
>>          ears?
>
>I suppose ; express the perspiration. Not because he or she is
>feeling hot, though.

I think it means a cold sweat and the netters would
sort of like to express the feeing ashamed or something 
by it when they make a silly joke or a silly question.

-- 
Hashimoto Toshihiko <<Dept. of Electronic Engineering, Saitama University>>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: smittie@csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Fingerprinting Gaijin
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:27:02 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

>(Note that Kathleen Morikawa is a Japanese by ethnicity but is an
>American citizen.  I applaud UPI for referring to her as an American.)

Pretty big assumption on your part, mate. It may well be Mrs. Morikawa and not
Miss Morikawa.

smittie

-- 
                             Tada mono de ha nai
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Distribution: world
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:33:41 GMT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Movie "Rikyu"

In article <1992Nov17.101526.14797@Csli.Stanford.EDU> you write:
>
>In article <1e92niINNojp@male.EBay.Sun.COM> tooka@train.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>>Two years ago I saw the last half of a historical
>>drama titled "Rikyu". ...
>> ...
>>I really miss this film. Would anyone be helpful
>>enough to give me an accurate explanation of the
>>historical background of Rikyu's Japan--who was/were
>>the ruler or rulers of the time in Japan?
>
>If you drop the "accurate", I can give you a lead :-)
>
>* About Sen-no-Rikyuu
>You are asking about Sen-no-Rikyuu*1 [= Kanji in JIS-code are given
>at the end of article].
[Interesting historical information deleted]

Wasn't the film "Rikyuu" directed by Teshigara?

Anyone prepared to describe what it was like? Teshigara's earlier movie
"Suna no Onna" is IMHO a masterpiece. When the original poster says "[s/he]
really misses this film", is this because of the story it describes (the 
point of the question) or the quality of the movie itself?

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: sakimura@sscl.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Who started all this gaijin myth?!
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:02:50 GMT

In article <2418@usna.NAVY.MIL>, wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
> Has anyone noticed that the FAQ for this newsgroup says that the term
> `gaijin' is derogatory and insulting (I don't recall the exact choice of
> words)?  Perhaps this phrase of the FAQ should be changed?
>  
I think it should at least be rephrased/ or add some words to it to 
avoid mistake. 

From what I remember, FAQ was not saying that "GAIJIN" is a 
derogatory term, but it was saying that non-Japanese 
may perceive it as derogatory/insulting. I thought that it was an
advice to Japanese participating in this group, that such an 
misinterpretation of the term "GAIJIN" is quite common among 
non-Japanese, so it's best to avoid the use in the presence of 
non-Japanese, like s.c.j.

While this is a valuable advice, at the same time, I think FAQ 
should guide the non-Japanese to the fact that "GAIJIN" is not
a derogatory term. It simply means non-Japanese. Whether it is
insulting or not depends upon the speaker/writer's intention.

BTW

What word should we use instead of "GAIJIN" if we were to avoid 
it? Should we use "IJIN (literally, different man)" or what? 
"GAIKOKUJIN" in not likely to work out because it is way too 
long (2 syslables longer than ausual Japanese can stand). 

I think it's a silly idea to impose 
the usage of words from the above. Usually, each words has 
cultural attachment to it. "Kobe Ijin-kan" cannot be "Kobe 
Gaikokujin-kan". "Gaijin Kyoryuuchi" can't be "Gaikokujin 
Kyoryuuchi." "Gaijin Bochi" can't be "Gaikokujin Bochi."
In these cases, "Ijin" nor "Gaijin" is by no way derogatory.
Instead, many Japanese (including myself) feel strong 
attachment and nostalgia (and possibly admiration) to these 
terms. I think that's one of the reason why these places 
tends to be a favourite places for young couples/lovers. 

--
Natsu Sakimura
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Train from Osaka to Tokyo
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:22:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov19.182204.20249
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

oi@cs.meiji.ac.jp (Hitoshi Oi) writes:
>	If you don't need to see Osaka at all, how about flying
>	from Osaka to Haneda ?

And if you don't care to ride the famed bullet train, and if don't
care to see the Japanese country side flying by (of course you can't
see it on the evening runs). :-)  Personally, I love train travel.

>	I don't know what time you reach at Osaka airport.  But if it's
>	in the evening, the bus goes to the downtown of Osaka takes
>	a lot of time...

Isn't there a direct bus service from Osaka Airport to Shin Osaka?
Seems like there ought to be one.
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese Major Suggests Military Coup: Your Opinion? (mod. long)
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:37:29 GMT
	<1992Nov2.165210.29132@physics.ucla.edu>
	<1992Nov3.175303.4143@island.COM> <1992Nov4.012300.18974@tcsi.com>
	<1992Nov10.145730.21383@acuson.com>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan

In article <1992Nov10.145730.21383@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com
   (Michael Goldman ) writes:

 =}miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.) writes:
 =}
 =}>The U.S. has historically had its rural regions over-represented on a
 =}>per-capita basis, but I don't think the skew has not been as dramatic
 =}>as in Japan, overall.
 =}
 =}	   Are you thinking of the very powerful US Senate where the
 =}	   2 senators from North Dakota (population 638K) have the
 =}	   same votes as the 2 senators from California (pop. 34M) ?
 =}	   (Ratio of 53 to 1 ).

   Have people forgotten the purpose of having both a senate and a
house of representatives?  One was set to give equal voice to all
citizens and one was set up to give equal voice to each state
regardless of population...  "Checks and Balances" ring any bells?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Some Stupid Questions for Japanes.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 02:56:52 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Nov16.002149.12660@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>S. Korea has banned Japanese language programming (musicals, drama, etc.)
>from radio, TV, the theatres, etc.

	I'm posting this since I don't want people here to get
	the wrong info. due to this B.S.

	I don't know about others; but this is defintely B.S.
	Where have you been?  Haven't you read about the Japanese
	teaching programs, Anzenchidai concert in Seoul, lots of Japanese
	movies on Video tapes; and I wonder what you'll say if you
	see the Korean subtitled version of 101'st propose & Tokyo Love
	story; and I don't think I have to mention all those anime
	showed up on Korean T.V (Yamato, Captain Harlock, ... etc);
	and I was one of those who enjoy this in Korea.

	Ah, put your Korean-bashing on s.c.k if you have more; I don't think
	people here will be interested.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Name Registration (Was: Re: Fingerprinting Gaijin)
Date: 21 Nov 1992 12:40:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

>The registeration defines only the characters of the name,
>and not its reading (yomi).  So the pronunciation of a name is
>officially "undefined", and is totally conventional.
 
Okinawan family names such as "Kanagusuku" are recorded and
mispronounced as "Kinjou". A bureacrat's assurance of not
officialy "defined" won't save you from the tyrany of the 
government if you happen to be in minority groups. 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:11281 talk.politics.guns:24385
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:50:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <justin.722415950@mik.uky.edu>, justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:

> But they're not at all triggy happy, are they? NOOOOO... Empties two guns
> into another scum-sucking pig, and then feels the need to empty ANOTHER
> one into his bullet-ridden body? 

Bullet-ridden?  Ha ha ha ha!  You obviously haven't heard the story.

These guys blew something like 14 to 17 rounds at the two undercover cops.
They put TWO into his bullet-proof vest, and ONE into his neck.  And that's
it.  The other rounds?  Well, they don't call NYC "dangerous" for nothing.
-- 

cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com   --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com        write today for my special Investors' Packet...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] Japanese Science and Technology Management Program
From: <PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 13:09:11 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <1992Nov16.154513.17445@software.org>, trinh@software.org (Donna
Trinh) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov13.003113.27892@cunews.carleton.ca>
>nguyen@turing.scs.carleton.ca (H.H. Nguyen) writes:
>>
>>       When one mentions the cost of education, in addition to tuition
>> fees, one has to include books, food, rent and other living expenses.
>> For those already in the work force, there are potential income losses when
>> returning to school full-time.
>
>
>Your addition is WRONG :-)  You pay for "food, rent and other living expenses"
>as long as you live on this earth :-)))        ^^^^
>

    Actually, sometimes you can get "free" rent in return for some services...
I used to have a roommate (an American girl, btw :)) who let me stay for
a short time as long as i took care of her apartment. :)


Le -Du+'c


>Cheerios!
>
>--Donna Trinh
>  trinh@software.org








Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: whonoz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (--- Null Space ----)
Subject: Re: Re: [Tho*]
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:56:34 GMT

In article <9211142217.AA20643@cabell.vcu.edu> pdt2mtn@cabell.vcu.edu (Myhanh T. Nguyen) writes:
>
>     
>     Trust in the Lord with all thine heart,
>   and learn not to thine own understanding.
>      In all thy ways acknowledeg him
>       and he shall direct thy path.

   
     Finally, there's someone outhere speaking of the truth! 
 
     Amen!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: LE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject: [FOOD] for Thanksgiving
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: LE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:38:50 GMT


L. ddang ti`m recipes da`nh cho Thanksgiving dinner .  Ne^'u ba.n na`o
co' vui lo`ng ddaang le^n du`m. 

Ra^'t ca'm o+n,
From: dasun!nexus!tranp@sunkist.west.sun.com ("Phong Tran (Tranp")
Subject: Condo for Sale
content-length: 377
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:37:37 GMT


For those that likes or plan to live in southern CA.

FOR SALE:  1.5 year old condo, phoenix model, 3-bed, 3-bath,fire-plc,
central air, direct car garage + upgrades...
Location:  Aliso Viejo, CA

Price???   $170,000

The above is not personally mine.  I'm to poor to own anything.  But
if anyone is interested, they can email to me or call
  (714) 857-1135
  (714) 454-2377
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: haituanv@microsoft.com (Hai Tuan Vu)
Subject: [SONG] Hi`nh a?nh ngu+o+`i em kho^ng ddo+.i
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:11:01 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

Hi`nh a?nh ngu+o+`i em kho^ng ddo+.i
- Hoa`ng Thi Tho+

Nga`y na`o em dde^'n
A'o em ma`u trinh
A'o xinh la` xinh
A'o em trong tro+`i buo^`n
La` gio' la` bu+o+'m la` hoa la` ma^y chie^`u ta`

Nga`y na`o em dde^'n
No'n em ca^`m tay
No'n em ma`u ma^y
No'n em sao the.n thu`ng
Ke^` tai  dde^? no'i cu`ng anh mo^.t ca^u chuye^.n lo`ng

	Co' bao gio+` xo'a nho`a ta` ao' tra('ng
	Hi`nh da'ng ngu+o+`i em kho^ng ngo'ng cho+`
	Mo^.t ba`i tho+ dde.p the^m ti`nh the^m tre^n no'n em

DDe^? tu+` ho^m a^'y
No'n em la`m tho+
No'n em dde^.t mo+
DDa~ ghi trong cuo^.c ddo+`i
Hi`nh bo'ng ngu+o+`i em ma` anh nga`n na(m ddo+.i cho+`

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyet@wam.umd.edu ((Gone With The Wind))
Subject: Tho*: Thu Trong Chie^n' Tranh
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:16:24 GMT



				Thu Trong Chie^n' Tranh


			Chie^u` ho^m a^y' gio' thu bay nhe` nhe.
			Mu*a bui. vang` theo gio' bui. ha^y ha^y
			Ngu*o*i` khach' la. cha^n nhip. nhang` bu*o*c' khe?
			Ho*i cui' dda^u` trong pho^' lanh. mu*a bay

		Co' tie^ng' ra ai mua ho^ng` khe khe?
		Thoang' be^n tai ngu*o*i` khach' nga^n~ dda^u` trong
		Nu*o*ng theo gio' mo^t. canh' hoa ro*i nhe.
		Trong ngo*~ ngang` khach' da^m~ nat' canh` ho^ng`

			"O^`, xin lo^i~ to^i tha^t. tinh` vo^ y'
			Bao nhie^u tie^n` to^i dde^n` ho^. canh' hoa?"
			"Kho^ng..., kho^ng sao, cha(ng? la` bao nhie^u ca?
			Va` cung~ do tai. gio' a^y' ma`!"

		Ngay` ke^' tie^p' khach' du*ng` cha^n no*i cu~
		Nga(m' hang` hoa va` hoi? gia' co^ ta
		"Thu*a mau` nao`, ddo?, vang`, ho^ng`, hay tra(ng'?"
		"Mau` cua? canh' ho^ng` xa^u' so^' chie^u` qua"

			Co^ gai' cu*o*i` tay goi' canh` ho^ng` tra(ng'
			Trao khach' hang` ro^i` ca^t' la^y' vai` xu
			"Xin chuc' o^ng ddu*o*c. mo^t. ngay` may ma(n'"
			Khach' mim~ cu*o*i` trong anh' ma(t' u*u tu*

		Mo^i~ ngay` mo^t. mo^i~ canh` ho^ng` cho khach'
		Co^ gai' cu*o*i` va` thoang' chut' ngac. nhie^n
		Ban. gai' o^ng tro^ng thich' mau` nay` nhi?
		Co^ ban. nao` tha^t. may ma(n' co' duye^n
			
			"Khach' thong tha? ddon' canh' hoa tron` tria.
			Ro^i` mim~ cu*o*i` trong anh' ma(t' dda(m chie^u
			Tha(ng` ban. to^i tua^n` qua vao` nghia~ ddia.
			Vai` nhanh' ho^ng` cho no' bo*t' quanh. hiu"

		"To^i vo^ y' dda~ kho*i sa^u` kha(c' khoai?
		Hoi? chuye^n. buo^n` trong tho*i` buo^i? loan. ly"
		Khach' mim~ cu*o*i` khe? nhung' vai mo^t. cai'
		"Trong chie^n' tranh ai bie^t' tru*o*c' nhu*ng~ gi`"

			Ngay` sau nu*a~ khach' a^m tha^m` xuo^ng' pho^'
			"O^ng khoi? tra~ tie^n` cha(ng? ddang' bao nhie^u
			Canh' hoa nay` to^i ta(ng. ngu*o*i` qua' co^'
			Muo^n' cung` o^ng san xe? mo^t. it' nhie^u`"

		Tu*` dao. a^y' khach' co' the^m ngu*o*i` ban.
		Co^ ban' ho^ng` cuo^i' pho^' gio' mu*a bay
		Cung` pho^' chie^u` nhin` mu*a thu lang~ mang.
		Tinh` dda~ say ho*i~ lu*~ khach' co' hay?


			DDe^m ho^m a^y' khach' lai. qua pho^' va(ng'
			Ro^i` ngo*~ ngang` nhin` quan' nho? ddiu` hiu
			Tha(ng` be' con dda^u` quang` manh kha(n tra(ng'
			"Chi. cua? em vu*a` mo*i' che^t' ban chie^u`"

		Khach' bang` hoang` trong no^i? nie^m` ua^t' u*c'
		Ro^i` ngo*~ ngang` o^m ddu*a' nho? trong tay
		Tha(ng` be' con bum. tu*ng` tie^ng' na^c'
		Ma(t' lu*ng trong` nhin` pho^' lanh. mu*a bay

			Ngay` ho^m a^y' va^n~ gio' thu nhe` nhe.
			Va^n~ mu*a chie^u` va^n~ pho^' lanh. ha^y ha^y
			Ngu*o*i` khach' buo^n` va^n~ a^m tha^m` bu*o*c' khe?
			Va` cuo^i' dda^u` trong pho^' nho? thu bay 

						
						
						
						=NH=
From: dangt@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Dang Thanh Ngan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [misc] WINVNKEY  with Word Perfect
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:11:14 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1992Nov19.170952.9856@honte.uleth.ca> zts_duong@hg.uleth.ca writes:
>Cha`o ca'c ba.n,
>
>To^i xin ddu+o+.c ca'm o+n ca'c ba.n dda~ giu'p ddo+~ to^i trong vie^.c
>load Vietnamese fonts tu+` Winvnkey to work with Word Perfect. I got it.
>( Dda(.c bie^.t hai ba.n Tho^'ng Nguye^~n va` Dang Thanh Ngan ).
>
>To^i xddu+o+.c ho?i ca^u ke^' tie^'p :
>
>To^i du`ng Convert 1.3 to convert a text from Viet-net format to VISCII, run
>Winvnkey, go to Word Perfect, chose a Vietnamese font, retrieve the file, it
>didn't work ( I chose ASCII Text format ).  Why ? What else do I have to do ?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Duong

     Hmmm, thu*? cho.n text format kha'c xem sao ? sau khi retreive xong, mark
the text ro^`i cho.n vietnamese font. Ne^'u 0 work nu*~a thi` anh thu*? xa`i
VietVu xem sao, chi? ca^`n cut viet-net text format and paste la` sang format
VISCII. co`n ne^'u va^~n co`n bi. problem thi` ddo^?i word processor ddi, B-))
Bum thi` remove c'ai WordPerfect for window la^u go^`i, xa`i AmiPro or MicrosoftWord for Window thi` ddo*~ ho*n

Bum
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS/VN: Anti-Hanoi guerrilla force to depart for US
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:25:14 GMT


11/17

ANTI-HANOI GUERRILLA FORCE TO DEPART FOR U.S

    PHNOM PENH, Nov 17, Reuter - Members of an anti-Hanoi guerrilla army,
recently found in the remote Cambodian jungle years after being abandoned by 
the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, will be resettled in the United States, 
a U.N.  spokesman said on Tuesday.
    The 407-strong group of Vietnamese mountain tribesmen, or Montagnards, and
their families will begin leaving a transit camp in Phnom Penh on Wednesday for
the United States, the spokesman said.
    Their army, the United Front for the Struggle of Oppressed Races (FULRO),
gained prominence during the Vietnam War when both the CIA and Hanoi courted 
the Montagnards' loyalty.
    They later based themselves in Cambodia but in recent years rarely troubled
the Hanoi government while their conditions became increasingly desperate.
    The group made contact earlier this year with peacekeepers of the United
Nations Transitional Authority in Cambodia and requested refugee status.
    Last month the entire community was airlifted by helicopter from a village
base and brought to Phnom Penh where they were placed under the U.N.'s care.
    Almost the entire group indicated they wanted to resettle in the United
States. The operation, due to be completed on December 3, is being supervised 
by the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.
    U.N. sources told Reuters that the group would most probably be resettled 
in North Carolina.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: M4MDAI@sr.pacbell.com (m4mdai)
Subject: Testing
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: pbhya!SR.PacBell.COM!M4MDAI@pacbell.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:33:11 GMT



Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vnguyen@hfglobe.intel.com (Vu Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Song Singer Name Request
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:41:27 GMT

In article <9211182213.AA17631@mx.secs.csun.edu> secs0657@mx.secs.csun.edu (Long Tran) writes:
>Hi There :-)
>
>I just listened to an old American song named "Lead Me On".  I think it's
>in 70's.  I try to find out who sing this song and/or who wrote this song?
>
>If anyone out there know the singer name and/or the author/writer name,
>please respond this message or directly forward your e-mail to my address
>at secs0657@secs.csun.edu.
>
>Thanks in advance?!
>
>LongTran


     There are several songs with the same name, but I am pretty sure
the song you mentioned was sung by Maxine Nightengale (sp?).  I believe
Diana Ross also did a version of the same song.  I could be wrong here.

     BTW, if you happen to find a store that sells this record, please
buy me one.  I will reimburse the money.  I've spent years looking for the
same record.

     Thanks.

     Vu.
From: pnl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Phong N.H. Le)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Ho.c Li.ch !
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:11:15 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University


	Tu*` li.ch Ta^n Du~  
co' ma^'y ca^u to^i ca? tha^'y ra^'t la` ly' tuong?
xin go*~i lo*.i vo*'i ca'c ba.n 

	Tu*. tri' gia? ba^'t minh, tu*. kie^'n gia? ba^'t chu*o*ng.
Tu*. cho mi`nh la` kho^n la` kho^ng sa'ng, tu*. cho mi`nh la` tha^'y   
	la` kho^ng ro~ .

	Tru*o*ng. phu kho^ng nhie^~m tho'i tra^`n,
Kho^ng so*. nghe`o kho', kho^ng tha^n sang gia`u.

	Khi a(n thi` pha?i lu*.a mu`i,
Khi no'i thi` pha?i lu*.a lo*`i cho*' sai.

						Soa.n Tha?o:
					Vu~ Ta`i Lu.c 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: antoine@Apple.COM (Antoine Duong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Austin Texas netters only
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:34:43 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


Hi all,
I am going on a business trip to Austin Texas. I will leave
SF on ovember 29th and stay in Austin until 12/4/92.

If anyone has time, let's get together. I would appreciate a 
tour since I have never been to Austin. If not, any hints about
Vietnamese places like restaurants, shops, cafes, nightclubs would 
be great.

Thanks,    
Phong
From: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: News Petition for Ly Tong
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:16:23 GMT
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu



> tdt1964@ritvax.isc.rit.edu wrote:
>  Ly' To^'ng, does he exist for real? If he does exist, then is whatever
>  he did in VietNam true? Did anyone see it, or just hear the rummor?
>  I don't trust Vietnamese journalists or news writer whatever you call 
>  them. They all B.S so they have something to write ,and then try to make
>  money out of it.Don't get me wrong here OK, I have my reason for saying
>  so. Here is my reason. Earlier, I'd read about Vo
>  Vo? Dda.i To^n. The news said that he was executed in VN. How the hell


I never heard of such news about Vo~ DDa.i To^n from reasonably reliable 
non-Vietnamese & Vietnamese sources.  Just like the American media having
New York Times and National Enquirer, the Vietnamese media abroad has both
good and junk magazines & newspapers.  A well-read person should be able
to distinguish between the good and the junk one and should not impose
judgment on the whole media based on experience from some bad magazines.


>  he appeared in California ? Frankly speaking, if the American won't get
>  involve in this, don't ever dream of trying to turn over the co^.ng sa?n
> 

You're entitled to your opinion in this statement.


Nha^n