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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HKPA.MISC - Comic Pictures postings....
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:14:17 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <1dmcabINN8u1@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>
>HONG KONG PICTURES ARCHIVE - MISC COLLECTION (HKPA.MISC)
>========================================================
>NEW PICTURE POSTINGS
>====================
>
>....
>Anyways, I just uploaded the following files to the newsgroups
>alt.binaries.pictures and alt.binaries.pictures.misc.


Ooops!
I forgot to mention.....
Look for the keyword (COMIC) in the Subject: line for the
above posts.

Thomas.
From: cmhui@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Hui Chau Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Is is right to eat dogs?
Date: 14 Nov 92 04:03:09 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong

tlm@deutsch.doc.ic.ac.uk (Te Lung Man) writes:


>Recently, as we all know, Chris Patten lost his pet dog. This story was
>reported widely (and wildly) in British tabloid newspapers.
>There was suggestion that the dog was stolen by Chinese officials
>in Beijing and pressented on Mr Deng's lunch menu!!
>Or even on Mr Patten's lunch menu!! Poor Patten may have lost a few pounds
>in weight over the past few days.
>Why is this kind of story so palatable to the media ?
>The simple reason is that the Chinese are known to have a tradition for dog
>eating. It is unthinkable to the British (and others) how the Chinese could
>commit such a horrible deed to animals as loving as the dogs. In other words,
>it is uncivilised and wrong to eat dogs. This assumption is not really correct
>because if pigs had been considered as pets rather than dogs, then pork chop
>would have been banned already.
>Fortunately, the rumours have now been dispelled because the lost dog is
>found in Hong Kong, obviously still alive and well.
>But the question still remains. Is it right to eat dog?

In animals' world, they kill only when they are hungry. They kill for
only one reason, i.e. to eat the victim (animal.)

Chinese are right because they are kill for eat. Are Chinese animal? I
don't know! But sometimes I just feel that human's moral standard can
hardly be said higher than the animals' one.

Why dogs are more supreme than pig, chicken, cow?

Anyway, if you like to eat the dog, eat the dog. If you like to eat the
pig, eat the pig. 

Always remember, killing is for eating, not for beauty or any another reason.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: anw1@cec2.wustl.edu (Aaron Wong)
Subject: Chinese paranormalisms
Keywords: NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED!
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:54:45 GMT

In article <!YB=q1#@engin.umich.edu> hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang) writes:
>
>How come we used to describe (and think of) Chinese ghosts are disgustingly
>disfigured macabre fooling around for their next prey?  I mean, if there is
>an afterlife, why it has to be that scary?  Why it is so evil?
>
>It is quite a contrast to the Westerners, who describe the afterlife is 
>full of peace and comfort.  Most Westerners' stories about encounters with 
>ghosts are very transquil:  Just a faint white cloud of image floating in the 
>air, no blood, no slim, etc.  But Chinese!  My gosh!  Spagetti, anyone?
>

If ghost stories are not scary, they are not ghost stories. Chinese believe
in reincarnation after death unless one has done so much evil that he/she
deserved to become a ghost. One the other hand, if you are nice enough,
you can become a godling. (Can't do that in Western Culture.)

If you read Liu4Dzaai1, you can find some pretty romantic ghost tales too.

Also, the west has bloody stories like Dracula who sucks blood,
Oedipus who kills his father and wed his mom,
Zeus who kills his father who eats his own children.....
And you say Western stories are not wierd?

>Is it because the way we see ghosts are really depend on our inner minds, that
>most Chinese are disturbed (by supersitutions? stress?) deep under?  Is it 
>because of our religions?  Does this kind of scary images make a number of
>Chinese believe in Christanity (in which the God looks more human and 
>socialable than the Gods in many Asian religions)?  

Chinese gods are not "unsociable". All cultures are disturbed by 
superstitions one way or another. That and the afterlife are reasons for the 
existence and popularity for many religions these days.

Here's some popular and approachable Oriental gods:
Gwaan1 Gung1 
Tin1 Hau6
Gwun1 Sai3 Yam1
Tou2 Dei6 Gung1 Gung1
Wong4 Daai6 Sin1

>Have the people in America notice that there is a complete contrast between
>an American funeral home and a Chinese funeral home?  How could that be?
>One's playing peaceful organ music and choral, the other used to have
>a bunch of monks screaming at their snapping pitch, with tear-blasting Chinese
>cornet all over your ears?

Organs are just as piercing as whatever else. If you really want some
tranquillity, use woodwind and piano.

>May be the Holy Creator discrimates against Chinese???  :-)

No comment. :>

NGOK
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Your university making $$$ out of you?
Keywords: $$$, brand-name, wholesome policies, yeck, etc.
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:20:31 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang) writes:

>Talk about respect.   Does anyone feel that your university has use its
>brand-name and widespread respect/reputation to attract top and wealthy 
>students, then attempt to squeeze money out of them?

They don't need to have a real BIG name to squeeze money out of the
overseas students here. [Luckily, they waived my tuition by creating
something call scholarship! But, I doubt if I'm getting something like
buy x and get 1 free.]

>Some examples:
>(1) $200 a term "Instructional Technology Fee" for all engineering students
>(2) $900 a year of trash health insurance from your university, in which you
>    must pay first, then make the insurance claim
>(3) $70 non-refundable signup fee for simply buying a meal-plan
>(4) 16.9% A.P.R. for any overdue balance on your student account
>(5) $0.50 a piece of laser printout
>(6) use the textbook by your professor, which the book is not very good, the
>    size not very big, but charge you $60 a piece
>(7) $70-90 registration fee a term
>(8) $50-80 "Building and Facilities Maintenance Fee" a term

People here are less creative. They couldn't think of so many items. Here
are some I know
(1) amenity fee, dependent on campus, I paid AUS $321;
(2) late registration fee : applicable only (?) to overseas student, 
    AUS $~50, if you register late!
(3) photocoping cost AUS 20c in the library
(4) laser printout, around  20c (?), no idea, I've never let them learnt
    this bit,

Besides, textbook here are terribly EXPENSIVE if you compare the price
in HK. It may cost you more than double for the same edition.

What's more they are getting more market directed. Say, they
would charge extra $$$ if a student need to repeat a subject. You know,
those students need just to re-sit the exam. This means that a single exam 
may cost AUS $1200.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mok@pa.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Subject: Re: Guess what...!!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 01:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.204814.5567@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
> 	Now, my question is: should I bother to update the old one?  do you
> think the last one was useful?  I would like to get some feed-back from 
> you people, since I don't want to waste my time typing. :)
> 
> 	My mailbox got bombarded by e-mail last time... so I figure I will turn 
> the question around this time:  Do any of you oppose updating the ftp'able
> employment guide?  If you do, please let me know.

Kelvin, it's useful, please do update it if you have time.  Also, please update the ftp version at ahkcus.org.  Thanks!

Charles
From: Samson.Luk@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Samson Luk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Any node in HK besides 6:700/1
Date: 9 Nov 1992 12:22:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 > Enzo
 > --
 > uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!6!700!1!Enzo.Michelangeli
 > Internet: Enzo.Michelangeli@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org

Include your REAL address with your signature may be a good idea for those
who post from HongKong FidoNet beside ME and my users :-)

Regards
--  
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Internet: Samson.Luk@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li)
Subject: Re: What the hell is Lam's first name?(Re: LAM is God!!)
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 02:01:41 GMT

In article <1dkurdINNrj6@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST102119@brownvm.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes:
>Well, does anyone out there know what Lam's English first name? Its
>sort of strange to call people by their last name... I don't think I
>have ever heard of his first name and I am DYING to find that out.
>
>I appreciate anyone who can enlighten me on this subject.
>
Isn't it George?

-- Vince

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Smart Handsome Chas)
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:04:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.160157.293@news.cs.indiana.edu> <juyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>In article <BxIGCt.G9y@unccsun.uncc.edu> tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Smart Handsome Chas) writes:
>>My friend in HK watched the TVB Pearl's show on KCR's commercial, which was
>>aired yesterday. They was no bleeding from that seventh kid. That all I know
>>about the show. Correct if I am wrong about it. Thanks.
>>
>>Chas.
>>
>
>So, is it really an extra child who should not be appeared in the ad?  Could
>you please provide us more information? Thanks!
>
>
>Julia
>
>P.S.  I would also like what reaction does KCR has?
>
>

As I said, that's all I know about the show. I think there was really an
extra kid appeared. I also want to know the whole story, therefore I sent
out mails to my friends in Hong Kong already. I'll post here if I have
something interesting or new to share with SCHKers. Thanks.

Chas.
From: choij@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (J H Y choi)
Subject: Re: Danny Chan's new album
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 10:17:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.001512.44483@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.002109.12839@math.ucla.edu>, cykwan@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Chik Yun Kwan) writes:
>> hello,
>> 
>>    If you are Danny Chan's fans, his latest album was released
>> few days ago. There are 2 new songs which are very good ! And 
>> for the other 13 songs, they are chosen from Danny's old albums
>> (except for "tin choy pak chi moun"( composed by Sam Hui )).
>> 
>>    Don't miss this one !(It is alright if you are sick of his face or voice)
>
>I thought that he was dead already!

He recorded the 2 new songs before he went to the hospital. Right now his
condition is the same as few months ago... Wish him best of luck.

Is there anyone know whether Warner Music (HK) released this CD for collecting
money to help danny or just for another business investment?  I hope they are
going to use the money of selling this CD for helping Danny's family..... I 
will not tolerate if Warner uses this CD as a money making machine..

I haven't heard the new songs yet, but the cover of the CD looks very 
attractive to me.  Got to save some money to buy it.

-----------
Johnny Choi
address :-  choij@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca

"There is no one on earth who does what is right all the time and 
  never makes a mistake."  --- Ecclesiastes Chap. 7, Verse 20
From: tchan@riker.acs.calpoly.edu (Tony Yua-Kit Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Hong Kong stats pictures wanted
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:34:56 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo


Hi,
	Can anyone tell me some addresses of the ftp sites to get Hong  
Kong singers (Leon Lai, Alan Tan....) pictures, please?

I can look at a jpg, gif, tiff file on my NeXT or SUN

Thank you very much in advance
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee)
Subject: Re: Any reaction from China?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 11:02:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.040934.28344@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu) writes:
>
>While we can express our opinions here, we only speak for ourselves.
>A high ranking official should watch his tongue because what he does or
>speaks will likely be interpreted by others as representing the opinion
>of his government. The mentioned official is really stupid because he
>said this when the Sino-US relation is at a very subtle stage now.
>
>Note1: Assuming Chinese government wants to maintain good trade relations
>with US.
>
>Note2: I am not saying that Chinese government couldn't condemn the imperialist
>United States.

His opinion does reflect the opinion of his government.  Think about it.
The Democrat Congress wants to pass a law imposing a "conditional"
Most Favorite Status upon the Chinese as a trade partner.  Of course
it was vetoed my Bush.  What do you expect Clinton will do?  For those
of us seeing the business opportunity in China became shaky because of
the foreseen new law, we say the same thing, "we don't like Clinton!"

Chuan


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: root@shearson.com (Operator)
Subject: Re: obsessed fans
Reply-To: root@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:02:12 GMT

well, it is kind of a shock to hear that someone going to such lengths. personally
i'm not much of a fan-boy myself even though i enjoy many of the hk artists' works.
i mean, i heard that shirley kwan along with a few other artists are having a 
concert in a.c. later this month, but when i saw the time, (2am folks, on a weekday)
i was kind of upset to say the least. even the tickets are kind of steep for a 
concert at that time. ($50 or $60, i believe) however,it is not even a question of money, it is a matter of priority and personal taste. i mean they are very
talented, and i'm sure they will put on a most excellent show, but i do have to be at
work the next day. it will be a missed opportunity, but i think i'll get over it.
so, anyone wants to join me for the concert later this month ? :) :)
---
just my $0.02 worth.
-dave
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In article 2JH@acsu.buffalo.edu, v050qh6y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT) writes:
> 
>      Out of curiousity, I quite wonder if some of us are too obsessed with 
> the chinese moviestars.  I mean, how far would you actually go for your 
> idol?  Andy Lau is my idol and I think the furthest I went was I drove 7 
> hours from school to Atlantic city just to see him in concert.  And I also 
> made my mother pull connections to get me backstage, when they wouldnt let 
> me, cuz my mom's friend wasnt there, I stood at the backstage place and 
> cried and whined and bitched and threatened until they let me in.  Which is 
> something I swear I'd never do.  I hate looking stupid, but I did it to see 
> Andy.  So anyway, how far have you guys gone?  And would you say that 
> you're obsessed?  I know I am.
> 
> 
> 
> __________________________________
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From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:45:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: This News Group Surprises Me!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard SSG/CCSY-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

/ hpopd:soc.culture.hongkong / jfl@mojave.eel.ufl.edu (Yu-Fung Liu) / 10:12 pm  Nov  2, 1992 /

>Being educated oversea doesn't make you surpreme to other HKese.
>Most HKese never got educated oversea and don't believe in Christianity.

>I understand a "SURPEEME" court judgement is too important for you and
>here you go!
>In order to be a US president, you have to be a citizen of the US plus
>born here! 
 ^^^^

Are you sure? I believe it is just because so far no US president born
outside USA. I remember someone going for presidentship last time was
born somewhere outside US.

>Does it make you to believe that HKese need their own representive now?
----------
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:53:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

ptsai@cmcvx1.claremont.edu writes:

[someone else wrote]
>> 
>> FYI, ATV playback the film in slow motion tonight, 'bleeding' can indeed be seen from the 2nd kid's (a girl) mouth!!!  
>> 

>	so, the kid IS really bleeding, so everything is REAL??

I know I shouldn't make a joke out of this... yet, with the advanced tech-
nology of today, I wouldn't be surprised if someone edited the video with
a computer... (like, morphing the girl into a... you know).  Of course, I
doubt people would do that to gain publicity or what not.  However, I 
would now think twice before believing videos, you know...

>						BusterR!

Just a thought.  BTW, my friend (before hearing about the shocking news) told
me a while ago that the kids in that commercial look pale.  He thought they
were sick or something... mm... perhaps he has "ying-yang" eyes?? 

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: achoi@soda.berkeley.edu (Andrew Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Archive for this newsgroup?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 23:01:27 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

Hi netters:

  Since I haven't been reading this newsgroup for the last 6
months and missed the FLAMBOYANT JAN ARTICLES, I was wondering
if there exists an archive for this newsgroup for past articles.

  BTW, China & HK news used to be posted to this newsgroup.
What happened?

-- Andrew Choi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: leungk@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (The Wandering Hermit)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Re: This News Group Surprises Me!
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: MIS Department, Univ. of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <6130178@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes...
> 
>Are you sure? I believe it is just because so far no US president born
>outside USA. I remember someone going for presidentship last time was
>born somewhere outside US.
> 

I think one must be born in US (or born American) to be the president of US.
The only exception is, you were a citizen already when US is found. This is
in the constitution, I think.

Simon,The Hermit
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: Thanks for HKPA & request for more
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:18:18 GMT

K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO) writes:

>I do have a nice Tin Ha gif, but I'm not sure if it's appropriate to
>post it to the newsgroup. So if you guys do I would be more than happy to
>send this pic to you by email ...

>-- 
>Fred

You can post it to the pictures newsgroups alt.binaries.pictures &
alt.binaries.pictures.misc. HKPA is more than happy to accept your
comics pics too! :*) If you like it to be in our ftp site
asia.lcs.mit.edu, please feel free to email the uuencoded pics to
Thomas <twong@civil.ubc.ca>.

Anyway, please read our FAQ for details.

Comic pics will be put into HKPA.MISC sub-archive for the time being.
However if anyone wants to organize a new HKPA sub-archive (say
HKPA.COMIC.....), please don't hesitate to contact us. :*)

Regards,
Alan of HKPA.POPSTARS.
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From: v050qh6y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: obsessed fans
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     Out of curiousity, I quite wonder if some of us are too obsessed with 
the chinese moviestars.  I mean, how far would you actually go for your 
idol?  Andy Lau is my idol and I think the furthest I went was I drove 7 
hours from school to Atlantic city just to see him in concert.  And I also 
made my mother pull connections to get me backstage, when they wouldnt let 
me, cuz my mom's friend wasnt there, I stood at the backstage place and 
cried and whined and bitched and threatened until they let me in.  Which is 
something I swear I'd never do.  I hate looking stupid, but I did it to see 
Andy.  So anyway, how far have you guys gone?  And would you say that 
you're obsessed?  I know I am.



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*                                *
* WINNIE LEE                     *
* V050QH6Y@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU  *
* "ANDY LAU IS GOD"              *
*                                *
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