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From: teresa@astro.as.arizona.edu (Teresa Bippert-Plymate)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: WHAT IS FERMENTED HAY?
Keywords: HAY FERMENTED
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:49:30 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1993Jan25.130558.6464@netfs.dnd.ca> razm@ncs.dnd.ca (Michael Raz) writes:
>My horse developed a mild respiratory infection about 3 months ago and
>once we cleared it up he became slightly sensitive to the mold/dust in
>hay.  We put him on cubes which he does eat but not with a great deal of
>enthusiasm and I don't feel he gets the bulk he would get from hay.  I
>have recently tried him back on hay but soaking and rinsing it in hot
>water 2 to 3 times before feeding and so far so good.  My question has
>to do with fermented hay.  What is it and how is it made?  I have heard
>that it is excellent for sensitive horses and was also told that it is
>simply silo hay.  Anyone have any information on it?  Thanks.

I feed my fellows this feed.  It is hay that has been put into hermetically
sealed bags, with yeast, when it is still a little moist.  It is strange
looking stuff, it looks like peat moss but smells like beer!  The advantages
of this feed is that the dust and mold found in regular hay is not present,
so horses with respiratory problems do very well on it.  Also, the moisture
content is higher, so the feed is closer to grass in the way it digests, so
there are fewer incidents of sand and impaction colics.  The bags can be
stored anywhere and as long as they are not punctured will last over a year
without loss of nutrition.  And the yeast provides "good bugs" for the guts
and supplemental B-vitamins (just like Brewer's yeast).  Another plus is the
fact that there is very little waste.  Some horses love it from day one, some
have to "warm up" to it.  The hage I get from Texas is fermented alfalfa hay
with molasses added.  But the hage can be made from any type of hay.  EQUUS
magazine had an article on this feed a few years back, and gave it a glowing
report.  And I like it a lot.  The guys are healthy and happy, and it's easy
for me to use and store. (My distributor brings it out and STACKS it for me!)
I posted the address from off the last set of bags I bought, and I hope this
is the right one now, as they seem to have moved.  

					Teresa
					Leo the QH
					Arussito the Caballo Espanol
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: lmgarret@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Linda M Garrett)
Subject: The name game again
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:18:50 GMT

Posting the note about the mares due dates, reminded me of the name
game that we played last year to name foals.  And while I'm thinking
about, I'll ask if anyone would like to help name Carol's foals this
year.  Of corse, there won't be any birth anouncements until Late Feb
to Late March.  Well here are the mare's, sire's , etc.


Barn name:  Brandy

Dam:  Miss Spanish Suzy (QH)   X    Sire:  Heza Sure Sign  (APPY)
      Bay                                  Sorrel with Blanket
  Dam  Robbie's Princess(QH)
  Sire Spanish Irish(QH)

Hoping for a reiner/cutter



Barn name:  Suzzie

Dam:  Sassabar Sioux (APPY)    X    Sire:   Joker's Weed(APPY)
      Bay w/ Blanket                        Buckskin w/ Blanket
 Dam  Sassafras Sue(APPY)             Dam  Joker's Bobbi B(APPY)
 Sire Surehand Bar(APPY)              Sire Superweed(APPY)


Barn name: Bobbi

Dam:  Joker's Bobbi B(Appy)    X     Sire:   Weed's Snow Chief(APPY)
      Leopard(Sorrel and white)              Leopard(Sorrel and white)
 Dam  Joker's Sundown(APPY)           Dam   ????
 Sire Navaho Dawn(APPY)               Sire  Superweed



Thanks,  and I'll be sure to post when we have some foal on the
ground.

Linda
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: afallen@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (E. Allen Arrington)
Subject: Re: Reader Bio's
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: 1st Kentucky Cavalry Co. C
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:39 EST  

Well, I sent the answers to all the questions to Brandy; I didn't think 
there would be such a great response with direct posts (glad I was wrong, 
its nice to read about all of y'all).  Here's a little about myself and the 
family:

My wife, Lynn, and work for Sverdrup technology at the NASA Lewis Research 
Center in Cleveland Ohio and live in Medina (about 25 miles south of 
Cleveland). We have 12 acres and just need to get the barn built so we can 
bring the horses out with us.

I'm a horse husband; I can blame every bit of this on my wife; she has been 
horse crazy since she was a youngster, so all of this horse stuff is her 
fault (thanks Lynn).  We bought her mare (bay 16.1 hh TB), Dixie as a 5 
year old over 4 years ago.  Mason, my big QH gelding (16hh, bay) we got as 
a 7 year old almost three years ago.  We generally just trail ride (english
/hunt seat).  My main horse activity is civil war reenacting in a cavalry 
unit (1st Kentucky cavalry, Co.C, CS/US).  We actual fire pstols and swing 
sabres and charge infantry!  What a rush!!!!!!!!!!!!


E. Allen Arrington  
        Trooper, 1st Kentucky Cavalry, Co. C 
        Mounted Memorial Unit                 
and Lynn
and Mason (a darn fine horse)
and Dixie (another darn fine horse)
and Lynn and the cats (Ulyses S. Grant, Stonewall Jackson, Shiloh and Blaze
)
From: jonathan@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: re: More truck questions
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:20:49 GMT

And get a really big dog, too.


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From: piglet@maths.tcd.ie (Adrian Bryce-smith)
Subject: job hunting!
Keywords: summer
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:34:56 GMT

     I really hope that someone can help me!! I was hoping to get a job 
this summer working in America with a friend of the family, but the usual
thing happened, and the job fell through. 
      I am 18 years old, 5`11`` and I go to Trinity College Dublin where I
study science. My father is a horse trainer, so I have had enormous experience
working with them, in aspects of racing, breaking and breeding. I would love to gain some experience working away from home to see what it is like abroad. A 
problem which I have found difficult is my weight - I`m 11 stones 8 pounds. So
recently I have not ridden young horses so as not to damage them. However I haveridden steeplechasers regularily. The caring for horses is not at all a problem,as it is the main perogative at home. 
      I love horses, and feel that I get on very well with them. If anyone knowsof a job, or has one I would be eternally grateful.

      My e-mail username is piglet@maths.tcd.ie
     

           Thankyou.       Adrian Bryce-Smith
From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullys Maze)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: want info from Kathy Ruiz and others!
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:01:24 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

I read the bio from Kathy Ruiz and would love more info on the ride
and ties.  I know how they work-I am interested in what kind of
saddles you use, what kind of shorts or pants, shoes, etc.  In
short, all the little trivial things that help facilitate doing this
sortof sport.  For example, since you tie up the horse at intervals,
do you use halter/bridles?  I would also love to hear what works
well with other endurance and distance folks!

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: meganb@sequent.com (Megan Breninger)
Subject: Karl's note reminded me of this!!!
Summary: We should start a horsey band!!!
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:49:52 GMT

Karl... that was too cute about Primrose's antics at playing
the "drums" on the 100 gallon turned over metal water trough!

It brought to mind Hanks latests and most favorite pastime,
"doorbang pawing".  Hank is in a 12 by 12 matted stall, but
the mat does not cover a small, 2 by 2 square area infront
of his stall door.  When he first started pawing, (only when
I am there and don't rush to his door immediately!), it
annoyed me greatly, so I placed a small tire (Honda size, minus
the rim, of course!) in front of his door.  It stopped him for
awhile, until he realized that   a: he could paw the tire back
out of the way and place it into his manure spot :*(  and
b: pick it up with his teeth and toss it aside!  Brat!  So,
now the tire is a toy, along with his cat litter jug with a rock
or two in it hanging infront of the bars inside his stall that
he pushes back and forth so the rocks rattle and the jug brushes
against the bars!!

OK, net...how can I possible stop the pawing!  (Yea, right!)

Megan and the Hank monster, aka ALPO!  8*)
From: morrigan@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Melissa Lee Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Emergency Dismounts
Date: 24 Jan 1993 17:52:11 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

	Back to a thread from a bit ago.....

	At the stable where I rode for 7 years, we used to take lots of
great trail rides.  My first instructor was a real daredevil (( :_) )) and
would occasionally take us out bareback on trails.  I have always been tall
(5'11 now), so when the other teens were on borderline pony-horses, I was on
the 15.1 REAL horses.  The only time this bugged me (I like my horses tall)
was on the trails without a saddle.  
	On one summer bareback ride, I was on a monster Appy with a horrible
bony back, and I started slipping. After hanging on for a few seconds, I did
a forward somersault off of his right side onto a gravel covered path,
landing on the back of my head.  All I have to say is thank God for helmets,
and it's a good thing I knew the RIGHT way to fall off, because when I
opened my eyes, I was well out of the horse's way, and I still had my
reins!! Sweet beast that he was, he was standing ther munching grass and
waiting for me to get back on.
	I think teaching people who ride that they also need to know how to
fall is extremely valuable.  Even if you don't think about it (I certainly
didn't), you are likely to do it the right way.

	Also, a side note to Rosalie.....I go to Johns Hopkins here in
B'more, and I'd like to know where you ride.  Trying to find a place......

Melissa,  possible future vet and horse-crazy (but horseless) person

Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: tcromey@smith.smith.edu
Subject: Reader Bio's
Organization: Smith College
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:17:42 GMT

Hi everyone,
My name's Tanya and I'm on the Riding Team at Smith College in 
Northampton, MA.  I'm a first year here and I love it.  I've only been 
riding for about two years.  I started taking English lessons at a barn back
home in Minnesota.  Intercollegiate riding is really fun and 
different.  At the shows, there's a horse draw, with the host college 
providing the horses, and whichever horse you draw, you ride.  So you
always have to ride a completely strange horse - it adds a new 
dimension to the art of horsemanship!  Well, that's about all I have to
say, have fun riding!
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: cawalto@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JOANNE WALTON)
Subject: Re: Cold-weather riding
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:26 EST  

In article <C19yzF.EKw@spk.hp.com>, cicarell@spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell) writes...
>Hello everyone,
> 
>I apologise in advance if you've seen this, or if another version comes out
>later, but I'm having major problems with our system.
> 
>I am wondering what you do to stay warm in cold weather.  I was riding in 
><10F a couple of weeks ago, and it was DANG cold.  I'm looking for some 
>good ideas (other than stay inside, I got bit by the horse bug and staying
>inside worsens the symptoms.)
> 
>This year I got a pair of Miller's "Warmtoes" boots.  They are lined with
>Thinsulate (what ever that is, It's good stuff) and have kept my feet warm
>all winter.  I have the tall ones, they also come in a short lace up version.
>They are thicker than regular boots, and slide around a little bit on my
>leg, but warm toes are worth it to me.  I ordered a pair of gloves with
>the same lining, but we got a heat wave and I haven't used them yet.  I have
>no connection to Miller's, just wanted to share a good product.
> 
>I ride english HJ, and just got the good (make that GRRREAT!) news that I
>can show one of my trainer's horses next summer.  Of course, I think she's
>the best horse in the barn.  If this gets posted I will add to the Bio thread.
> 
>Anyway, happy riding/driving/grooming/etc.  
> 
>Colleen Cicarelli
>Hewlett-Packard
>Spokane, Washington, USA
> 
> 
Colleen,

I, too bought the Warm Toes riding boots this year, and I LOVE them.  I 
have always rode in leather riding boots all year round, and in the winter 
my feet would freeze no matter how many pairs of socks I had on.  So far 
this winter i have only worn 1 pair of socks + Warm Toes and my feet are 
warm.  I had never had anything with Thinsulate in it before, but I'm a fan 
now.  I liked the boots so much I got myself a pair of gloves with 
Thinsulate in them, not specifically made for riding, but they work fine 
and they keep my hands 100% warmer than any other gloves I have ever had.

One other thing I did different this year is I got a cheap pair of stirrup 
sweat pants, and I've been riding in those.  I always ride in breeches, but 
the fleece stirrup pants are close enough to breeches and much warmer.  I 
wear a pair of Winterleggs under them, mine are really old, I don't know if 
they still make them.

I'm the kind of person who can't stand to be cold, but with these few 
additions to my wardrobe I have managed to stay comfortable this winter, 
for the first time ever!  I wouldn't mind getting a Thinsulate jacket, but 
its too late in the season to be getting it now (ie. there are none left.)

Anyone else with winter apparel suggestions?

Joanne
>
From: Nancy_R_DEUEL@umail.umd.edu (nd26)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: U.MD. Equine Biomechanics Lab
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:29:47 -0500
Organization: BBN news/mail gateway
Reply-To: equestrians@world.std.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.bbn.com

The Equine Sports Biomechanics Laboratory
at the University of Maryland, College Park
Department of Animal Sciences
Director: Nancy Deuel, PhD
Email: nd26@umail.umd.edu
Phone: 301/405-1385

**We seek qualified graduate student applicants for fall 1993!***

Research program:

Efforts in my laboratory concentrate on the motion patterns that distinguish
world-class equine athletes from their less successful counterparts.
High-speed videography and computerized image analysis is used to conduct
studies on the 3-dimensional motion characteristics occurring during actual
competitions in a wide variety of equine sporting performances.

I have led an international team of researchers conducting biomechanical
studies on the horses competing at several major events, including the 1988
Seoul Olympics, the 1990 Stockholm World Equestrian Games, and the 1992
Barcelona Olympics.

My research efforts concentrate on the assessment and prediction of athletic
performance ability of national and international-caliber equine athletes
involved in the most economically important horse sports. These include
studies of Thoroughbreds and Standardbreds, during growth and development as
well as during their racing careers; and also competition in such diverse
sports as steeplechase, combined training, show jumping, endurance riding,
barrel racing, dressage, and reining.

It is anticipated that research on equine biomechanics will eventually lead
to improved procedures for selection of horses for training while immature,
prior to the time when major investments have been made in months or years
of maintenance and conditioning. It should also lead to more accurate
fitness assessment techniques; more precise diagnoses of poor performance
and lameness; improved methods of athletic rehabilitation, veterinary care,
and corrective horseshoeing; enhanced selection and training methods; and
thereby improved performance levels and health of equine athletes, and
improved profitability for horse owners.


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From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: equestrian mailing list
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:34:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Please, if somebody has it, could you tell me the address
of the equestrian mailing list?  

Please reply directly to me and I will post the address to the
bulletin board if so desired.

Thanks you.


-- 
                                                        DarkMan     DoD #650
No .sig available.  The well has run dry.  Will entertain suggestions.
From: barkdoll@lepomis.psych.upenn.edu (Edwin Barkdoll)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Racoons & dogs :-(
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:10:02 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1jrn20INNjc1@nigel.msen.com> dan@msen.com (Dan and Karen Sugalski) writes:
>Dan and Karen Sugalski (dan@msen.com) wrote:
>: [ Article crossposted from rec.pets.dogs ]
>: [ Author was Ruth Ginzberg ]
>: [ Posted on 20 Jan 93 15:39:46 EDT ]
>
>Thanks to Ruth for letting me crosspost this.  Ruth also gave me a bit
>more information from the article.  Of those 787 cases of rabies in 1992
>in Connecticut

	And that number is likely to increase even more -- 787 cases
for 1992 is nearly a 4-fold increase 193 cases in 1991.

>a dozen were in cats.

	1992 marked the first reported cases of domestic animal rabies
in CT since before 1950.

>These numbers are only likely to go
>up.  Please remember to keep all of your pets vaccinated, including
horses.

	And don't transport wildlife across state lines which is what
caused this problem in the first place!

-- 
Edwin Barkdoll
barkdoll@lepomis.cattell.psych.upenn.edu
eb3@world.std.com
From: dan@msen.com (Dan and Karen Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: pinto vs. paints
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:21:01 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Donna Pattee (pattee@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:

: There are also two official major pattern distinctions, overo and tobiano.
: There are some sub-distinctions and other less-common patterns like 
: sabiano, tovero, and medicine hat, but someone else will have to address
: these (Megan?).

Medicine hats are tobiano, if I recall.  It's just that the specific
pattern has aquired a name of it's own.

Karen

From: crawford@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Ellen Crawford)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:39:32 GMT
Subject: bio
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian

Hello.  My name is Ellen Crawford and I work at Hewlett-Packard in
Santa Clara California as a computer programmer.  I ride in Woodside.

My horse history began when I was a kid, and my mom took me every-other-
week for lessons at Onondarka Riding School in Southern California.  I
eventually became a camp counselor there and spent most of my summers
there through high school.  I ended up buying one of their school-
horses, Quaker.  When Foxfield started up, I moved out there, and took 
Quaker.  I was a summer camp counselor there, too, until I went off to 
college at Stanford.

Quaker and I went to Stanford, where I found I didn't have enough time for
him, so I gave him to a nice family and finally finished my studies with
a computer-music interdepartmental major.

Nowadays I ride a wonderful older(22) Thoroughbred named Albee.  Though he
has a little arthritis in his shoulder, it usually works out after we
get moving.  When we ride in the ring, I am constantly amazed at how well
schooled he is, and how willing.  He's a great horse.  Up until several
years ago I used to jump him (3') but the jumps were taken away from his
ring, and so now we mainly ride flat.  I also take him out on the 
Woodside Trails (or does he take me?) and though he spooks at the 
weirdest things (those killer deer get him every time) he knows all
the trails and is always willing to tell me the shortest way home.

I enjoy rec.equestrian and thank you all for the friendly "tone" of this
group.

Ellen Crawford


Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: cosborn@dante.nmsu.edu (Cecelia Osborn)
Subject: longework
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:50:33 GMT

 I am sorry that I did not catch the name if the poster who asked
about opinions on longe work, but heres mine (for what it is worth).

I have read several articles on schooling the older horse on the 
longe line and practiced it myself with the success that you have had.
Tommy Manion (trainer) believes that 30 days on the longe line with
side reins and a snaffle are better than 90 days riding.  The reward
punishment is always the same, no variation in the amount of pressure
put on the reins and gives the horse a steadier frame to work under
without the variations in our hands.  I have found that it works very
well and teaches horses to accept contact on the bit. I also use a
chambon (french cavalry headsetting device) n conjunction with the
snaffle bit and longe the horse.  The chambon teaches the horse to
round his back and reach under himself.  30 days in the round pen
has sure turned around alot of horses for me.  Good Luck with yours.
From: dianem@hpbs2694.boi.hp.com (Diane Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Mustang registry
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:21:16 -0500
Organization: BBN news/mail gateway
Reply-To: equestrians@world.std.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.bbn.com

Thank you for posting the Mustang registry!!!  Thank you.

Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: plferric@piston.detroit.ingr.com (Pat Ferrick)
Subject: Dateline NBC
Organization:                      Intergraph, Midwest Regional Office
                             Detroit, Michigan
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:00:43 GMT

Hi All,

I was wondering if any of you happened to see Dateline this past Tuesday night.
They had a segment on the killing of horses for insurance money. They sort of
pointed the finger at some members of the USET as well as owners of TB and
Standardbred racing horses.

They mentioned Charisma by name as a famous horse that had been killed for
insurance money, and I was wondering if this is THE Charisma? Would anybody
out there know?

Thanks,

Pat & Golden Ghost
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian