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From: chaos@zeus.tamu.edu (Kimberly Diane Faircloth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Father's Death
Summary: death of father known by daughter
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:50:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug20.155812.4401@athena.mit.edu>, dcseward@athena.mit.edu (DeWitt C. Seward IV) writes...
> 
>This story is good since there are several witnesses who really don't
>care one way or the other in terms of if it is true or not.  In fact, I
>had forgotten all about it until this news group popped up.  I was
>wondering, how many instances of this "unnatural" death knowledge are
>there out there?  It might be interesting to see if this is a common
>thing or not.
> 
>-dcs
>dcseward@athena.mit.edu

Actually, I've had the same experience with my grandmother (father's mom),
whom I was not as close to as compared to my relationship with my maternal 
grandparents.  A little over six years ago, I had a disturbing dream...my 
whole family and I were standing at a gravesite, with a casket, tent, the 
works.  The children, my father's brothers and sisters, were seated in 
front of the casket and the rest of us surrounded them.  No one was crying 
(very unemotional family) except for one of my cousins, my sister and me 
(but we didn't start until later...).  In reality, to my knowledge, my 
grandmother was still alive. The next morning at 10am I got a call from 
my uncle next door saying that my grandmother had just passed away.  The 
scary thing was the funeral was EXACTLY as I dreamt it the night before she 
died.  No one cried, Granny was pretty old as it was, except for Jay, 
my cousin.  And my sister and I began to cry when my father came up 
and asked us if we wanted them to open the casket to see Granny (when 
never went to the funeral parlor for personal reasons).  When I mentioned
this to my uncle later, he said that it was something that several of the
"Faircloth's" had experienced.


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From: cosborn@dante.nmsu.edu (Cecelia Osborn)
Subject: Pets
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:31:20 GMT

 I received a female dashound from an animal control officer friend
of mine. The dog had been hit by a car, but besides some tire tracks,
was ok. I had her awhile, but couldn't keep her at home, so I gave her
to a friends dad. I missed her alot and was glad to get her back when
she was recuperating from being spayed. Before spaying, however, the
vet xrayed her lungs and found cancer (she had several breast lumps that 
had gotten larger). I put her to sleep as the cancer was pretty advanced.
Since then I have had her enter the bedroom and jump on the bed. I can
hear her tags (which seems to wake me up) and even feel her weight on
the bed.  It is comforting in a wierd,spooky sort of way. 
:w

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: streeter@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter)
Subject: Re: Father's Death
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:17:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.155812.4401@athena.mit.edu> dcseward@athena.mit.edu (DeWitt C. Seward IV) writes:
>
>This story is good since there are several witnesses who really don't
>care one way or the other in terms of if it is true or not.  In fact, I
>had forgotten all about it until this news group popped up.  I was
>wondering, how many instances of this "unnatural" death knowledge are
>there out there?  It might be interesting to see if this is a common
>thing or not.
>

This might come close.  When I was 16 my dad was hospitalized for
cancer.  We knew he was very sick, but Mom really didn't let us (I have
two older brothers) in on how bad it was.  

One Sunday we (my mom, my brothers and me) were home eating dinner.
We'd all been to the hospital that day at overlapping times -- me and
one of my brothers had been to an Oiler's game, Mom and my other brother
spent the whole day.  The general consensus arrived at over dinner was
that Dad was looking much better.  This had been going on for a long
time -- he'd been in and out of the hospital a lot -- and we figured he'd
be coming home soon.

The phone rang, which at dinner at my house at that time was not at all
unusual (it was rare to make it through dinner without it happening, in
fact).  Except this time we all just let it ring, because we all "knew"
this was going to be the phone call to tell us that Dad was slipping
away.  It was one of the weirdest things that's ever happened to me.  I
believe I was already crying when I picked up the phone, adn when I
thought about it (and talked it over with my brother) later, there was
no reason to get upset.  We really thought he was doing better, the
phone rang at dinner all the time, and even a call from the hospital
wasn't all that unusual. But we knew.  And, unfortuantely, we were right
(and the call was accurate -- he died early the next morning).

I've never really known what to make of this.



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From: eiverson@nmsu.edu (Eric Iverson)
Subject: Re: Animal instincts?
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:04:23 GMT

In article <swood.714243544@vela> swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG) writes:

> Come to find out, the time that the dogs started howling was precisely
> the time that the lady had died in her hospital bed more than 30 miles
> away.  To this day, I am not aware that the family (who was at the hospital
> at the time) knows about the dog incedent....

There are many well documented cases of this happening.  I've read
some articles in Omega about this.  There are also many cases of animals
spontaneously dying within a few days of their masters.  Weird stuff.



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From: mba@controls.ccd.harris.com (Belinda Asbell)
Subject: Re: answering the phone before it rings
Originator: mba@sp1
Organization: Harris Controls
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:19:36 GMT


I've done that a few times...

On a related note:

Before my husband and I married, we were living 900 miles apart, and contact
was rather infrequent.  I've gotten one-ringers sometimes, and the times coincide
with times he's very much wanted to call me but couldn't (for various reasons,
such as being out of town or whatever).  The same thing has also happened to him
when I've wanted to call him.

Anyone else had something similar happen?

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: blm28@cas.org (;A/GG)
Subject: Re: Ghost in the work-place
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:47:52 GMT



    I have had that kind of experience here at work. I will pick
    up the phone right when it get's ready to ring and say it for
    who ever is standing there. And they will say how do you do
    that?  I don't know???

    But the thing that get's me the most is standing and doing
    something on one of the computer's and then get this odd
    feeling that someone is standing behind me,turn around and
    no one is there. Sometime's I can feel a breath on my neck or
    feel someing one lifting my hair. I also see shadowes that
    move around when no one else is in the room with me.
    Any thought's on this one???


    Thank's,
    Becky Lynne

    *************************************************************************
    No one here but just us ghost's!!!! heheheheheehhehehe
    *************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dick Cleek)
Subject: Re: Street lights
Originator: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 13:04:10 GMT

From article <samw.714522514@bucket>, by samw@bucket.rain.com (Sam Warden):
> Re street lights going out as one approaches.

This happened to me as I would drive to school at least once a week. I 
suspected that it was just the "timing". However, once I began to pay
attention I realized that it seemed to happen in different places, at
different times and under different lighting conditions.  My current
"best" theory is that my car emits some stray signal that triggers the
street lamps, but?
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: brinskelle@convax.iar.nrc.ca
Subject: Street lights
Reply-To: brinskelle@convax.iar.nrc.ca
Organization: National Research Council,Ottawa,Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:50:25 EDT

   It's probably just coincidence, but it seems as though everytime I pass
under a street light driving my bicycle it turns off (or at least 20-30% of
the time).  And I'm not including the times of the day when the light
sensor tells the street light to turn off (like in the early morning) but
late at night (anywhere from 10pm to 3am).

   There was this one particular light (on the Bronson bridge in Ottawa)
that would turn off when I came within 5 meters of it.  I used to bike home
after studying at school, or in the labs late at night, and after a few
weeks of this happening I started watching from far away as I approached it
(the bridge is elevated quite a bit and I could see my light), and sure
enough only when I was within 5-10 meters would it turn off.  Then later
down the road I would always turn around to look and it would still be off.
At first I sort of thought it was bad luck, but then after a month or two
when I noticed that I had no bad luck,  the twice a week where it wouldn't
turn off I was worried of bad luck.  This happened for most of the school
year (8 months or so) but I didn't always follow the same schedule.

   It still happens even now because just yesterday I drove my bike through
a park to sneak up on a friend, and a light burnt out giving me away.

   I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that I have been
electrocuted once in grade 9 electricity and once before (not much just the
wind knocked out of me)????
[EOB]
E-mail   Jeff.Brinskelle@convax.iar.nrc.ca
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From: asiivo@cs.joensuu.fi (Antti Siivonen)
Subject: House of horrors
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:16:03 GMT

	I used to live in a large house 400 kilometres north from Leningrad, 
	very beautiful place, but somehow I felt nervous - there was someone
	looking. I heard sometimes walking at night in the yard and I went 
	to find out what it was. It was only a hedgehog. 

	I forgot everything and slept my nights. Still I had the same feeling 
	and saw extremely frightening nightmares. 

	One night I lied on my bed, eyes open, in my back. Suddenly someone 
	began to pull the blanket away. I grabbed it, but the power lifted me
	to the wall. 

	Once I felt that I was raped by them. I thought it was a nightmare and
	went to bathroom. I saw the fingerprints all over me, where I was 
	held. 

	Once I cooked tea at night and drank it a bit, but left quite a lot of 
	it to the pot. It was reddish tea. But in the morning the tea had 
	changed its colour to black and it seemed poisonous. 

	I have been harassed by ghosts all my life through. Many people have 
	witnessed that there actually is ghosting. Now I finally know how to 
	make them go away. I almost became nuts. 
-- 

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	No ITU, love, evolution.           Tuusniemi ! Siis imein suut !
From: Ann.Feeney@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Ann Feeney)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: answering the phone before it rings
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:34:29 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Aug20.143107.28542@hubcap.clemson.edu> jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
>I used to think I was the only one this ever happened to but I have
>found other people that sya it has happend to them and I saw a roomate
>do it once...
>
>Hav eany of you answered the phone before it rings?  You are sitting
>there and the feeling hits you just as if the phone is ringing and you
>pick it up and say hello and there is a call but the phone had not rung
>yet.  This is a little weird, but I have seen it happen to others as
>well as myself.  Any of you have simlar experience?
>
>Jim

Several times.
I even called the phone company about it, and they said that it's rather
like the same thing that makes you wake up just before your alarm clock
goes off.  When the connection is made, there's a very tiny little 
click sound off some phone models, that's enough to cue one
to pick up the phone, because one is so used to picking it up after 
that click, regardless of whether or not it has rung yet.

Ann
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From: mccarthy@well.sf.ca.us (Patrick McCarthy)
Subject: Re: answering the phone before it rings
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 07:18:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.183429.20814@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ann.Feeney@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Ann Feeney) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.143107.28542@hubcap.clemson.edu> jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
>>I used to think I was the only one this ever happened to but I have
>>found other people that sya it has happend to them and I saw a roomate
>>do it once...
>>
>>Hav eany of you answered the phone before it rings?  You are sitting
>>there and the feeling hits you just as if the phone is ringing and you
>>pick it up and say hello and there is a call but the phone had not rung
>>yet.  This is a little weird, but I have seen it happen to others as
>>well as myself.  Any of you have simlar experience?
>>
>>Jim
>
>Several times.
>I even called the phone company about it, and they said that it's rather
>like the same thing that makes you wake up just before your alarm clock
>goes off.  When the connection is made, there's a very tiny little 
>click sound off some phone models, that's enough to cue one
>to pick up the phone, because one is so used to picking it up after 
>that click, regardless of whether or not it has rung yet.
>
>Ann

When I was in college, I went to work at a computer store where both
of the other employees completely freaked me out because they were
constantly answering the phone before it rang.  After a few weeks, I
learned to "pick up" (no pun intended) that click before the ring as
well.  Incidentally, the phenomenon also freaked out customers in
the store as well as the callers who never heard a ring on their end,
which made it that much more fun for us :-)
 - Pat

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From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Street lights
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:43:15 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <0095F6E1.1DEAF660@convax.iar.nrc.ca> brinskelle@convax.iar.nrc.ca writes:
>   It's probably just coincidence, but it seems as though everytime I pass
>under a street light driving my bicycle it turns off (or at least 20-30% of
>the time).  And I'm not including the times of the day when the light
>sensor tells the street light to turn off (like in the early morning) but
>late at night (anywhere from 10pm to 3am).
>
<stuff removed>
>
>   I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that I have been
>electrocuted once in grade 9 electricity and once before (not much just the
>wind knocked out of me)????
>[EOB]
>E-mail   Jeff.Brinskelle@convax.iar.nrc.ca

Hmmmm...my ex-husband used to tell me I was a street lamp's
nightmare.  He was a lineman for an electric utility company and
spent a lot of his time repairing the street lamps.  When we
married, he noticed what I'd known for years...the same type of
thing that happens to Jeff.  On a regular basis, street lights,
or group of lights, will go off as I approached them.  He said
he'd never seen anything like it in all the years he worked with
electrical stuff.

I'd never thought of the electrocution theory 'til Jeff mentioned
it, but I was thrown about 30 yards by a poorly grounded
mobile home when I was about 14.

Not exactly a ghost-story, huh?  Sorry, but this caught my interest.

Debbie
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: schwartz@piccolo.cs.uiuc.edu (Bradley W. Schwartz)
Subject: "Telepathic Experience" vs. Ghosts
Organization: University of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:58:24 GMT

A General Comment
-----------------
Lately on the group there have been two distinct types of stories being
told, one being the ghost sighting/sensing/suspecting theme, and the 
other the telepathic event-sensing/predicting theme involving one or
several people.

I understand that there are various theories about links between psychic
phenomena and ghost manifestations such as poltergeists.  However, I'm
curious about the possible connections between telepathy in particular and
ghosts.  If anyone has read anything interesting along this line lately (it's
been ten years since I've read on the subject of ghosts), perhaps you could
mail me with a reference or two.  Maybe someday a group such as 
alt.folklore.ghost_stories.d would be useful to have... .

Anyway, I have no intention of posting without including an actual _story_
for all of you, so here is mine (the only one in my personal experience):


My Story (along the telepathic theme)
-------------------------------------
Roughly three years ago (October, 1989), I drove with a friend of mine to
a nightclub in Arlington, TX.  We stayed until 1AM, at which point my friend
needed to return home. However, we had also made the acquaintance of two
other people at the club, and it was decided that, after I dropped off my
friend, I would return to meet back up with the others.  

Approaching 2AM I arrived back at the club.  It was closing time, and most
everyone had already left.  The parking lot was dark but not quite empty;
I parked off to the side, turning off the engine and lights, and waited inside
the car for the others at a predesignated spot.  After ten minutes of waiting
I began to get very nervous; there was a loud, inebriated group near the
club's entrance, breaking bottles and seemingly looking for trouble.  I
_anxiously_ waited ten more minutes and, quite relieved that my car started
back up, drove home.  I got into bed just before 3AM.

At 6:15AM my phone rings.  Its my mother, calling long-distance from 
Wisconsin, who is very upset and worried about me.  She proceeds to tell me,
that "sometime around 2:30AM", she woke up from her sleep convinced that 
something bad had happened to me.  She could not apparently get back to sleep
for "about a half hour".  When I asked her why she thought I was in trouble,
she replied something like "I was sure you had car trouble.  You were sitting
in your car in the dark."

- - - - -

I guess we've all heard stories about mother/child telepathy over a long
distance.  I felt this one was particularly interesting because of the detailed
image she had of my situation, one step beyond the usual feeling that 
"something" was wrong. 


bws






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From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: photographing a ghost
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:41:13 GMT

When I was kid my family took a trip out west and we stopped in
sprigfield (illinoise ??) Where Abe Lincoln grew up.  We took all sorts
of pictures of his home, his tomb, monuments to him, all the tourist
stuff.  My dad was your standard geek tourist in the plaid shorts having
all the kids stand up straight and say cheese while he takes slide
pictures so we can torture friends and relatives alike with the slide
show when we get back.  When we got the pictures developed there was
young girl in every single picture that we did no notice when we took
the pictures.  Sometimes she was right in front like she was posing and
sometimes she was standing off to one side but she was always there.  We
figured it was the child of another family posing for her daddies camera
and the just happen to be following the same path through the tourist
sights and happend to be in all our pictures.  Months later there was
thing on TV about how people would tak epictures at lincolns tomb and
the like and this girl would appear in the pictures and tyey showed some
of the pictures on the tv-show.  I'll be damned but it was the same girl
that was in or pictures.  Apparently we photographed some ghost!  My dad
still has these pictures, cute little girl.

Jim
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From: CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSMSETS)
Subject: Re: Street lights
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:03:28 PDT

In article <0095F6E1.1DEAF660@convax.iar.nrc.ca>, on 21 Aug 1992 13:50:25 EDT,
brinskelle@convax.iar.nrc.ca writes:

>
>   It's probably just coincidence, but it seems as though everytime I pass
>under a street light driving my bicycle it turns off (or at least 20-30% of
>the time).  And I'm not including the times of the day when the light
>sensor tells the street light to turn off (like in the early morning) but
>late at night (anywhere from 10pm to 3am).
>
>   There was this one particular light (on the Bronson bridge in Ottawa)
>that would turn off when I came within 5 meters of it.  I used to bike home
>after studying at school, or in the labs late at night, and after a few
>weeks of this happening I started watching from far away as I approached it
>(the bridge is elevated quite a bit and I could see my light), and sure
>enough only when I was within 5-10 meters would it turn off.  Then later
>down the road I would always turn around to look and it would still be off.
>At first I sort of thought it was bad luck, but then after a month or two
>when I noticed that I had no bad luck,  the twice a week where it wouldn't
>turn off I was worried of bad luck.  This happened for most of the school
>year (8 months or so) but I didn't always follow the same schedule.
>
>   It still happens even now because just yesterday I drove my bike through
>a park to sneak up on a friend, and a light burnt out giving me away.
>
>   I'm wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that I have been
>electrocuted once in grade 9 electricity and once before (not much just the
>wind knocked out of me)????
>[EOB]
>E-mail   Jeff.Brinskelle@convax.iar.nrc.ca
>

I have the same thing happen to me. The thing with me seem to have to
do with how i'm feeling. If i'm feeling tired lights go out, if i'm
feeling good lights go on. Its weird, but people I know just kinda
expect it....
      --Ed