From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: Is there an interpreter in the house?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:04:52 GMT

aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:

>In article <C18AKL.3xt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> 
>yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:
>>
>>I do not think that we are here to provide with Americans the way
>>to date Iranian girls.  I just do not think this media should be
>>used in this manner.  This is only one person's opinion.  I've
>>
>>I do think that IRANI girls ARE too good for Americans.
>>But again I am talking about IRANI and not so called Persian-Americans.
>>In general I am against dating and casual relationships.
>>It seriusly contradicts our culture.
>>This, I know, is not only MY opinion.
>>
>>Ala


>Attitudes as such, judging people and generalizing about them because of 
>the color of their passport are as old as all other forms of bigotry and 
>prejudice.

I did not judge anyone on the personal level.  I made an statement based
on general characteristcs and cultural values of two different systems.
Not two different countries or two different races and not even two
different languages.  An IRANI girl is after entering warmth and security
of a family.  from young ages they are after a good husband, someone they
can share they moments of life with.  They are after permanent relationships
raising kids and promoting family values.ng
What is the goal of a typical American boy?
Certainly having a family is last in their agenda.  After overusing their
sexual powers and getting tired of chasing girls, they are usually forced
into entering a mariage that does not usually last very long. 
Sure there are exceptions.  Americans that honor family values and Iranians
who does not and I did not mean to generalize this rule.
Rather I am pointing to the difference in the expectations from life.
I have three of my cousins married to Americans and judging from their
lives they do not look happy at all.  At the same time I know Iraninas
that are married to Americans and are very happy.  In these cases, I have
noticed, Americans are very interested in Iranian culture.



 There are certain characteristics shared by people from certain 
>ethnic backgrounds; such characteristics are mainly physical and external; 
>color of hair or skin. Even then, there are many exceptions. But trying to 
>label people and predict how their heart and mind works solely based on their 
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>Iranian-ness or American-ness is absolutely and totally immaterial, ignorant 
>and uneducated. 

I am not sure you know what you are talking about.  Who did I label?
Why are you so upset about my criticism of this culture.  This society
is GOING DOWN TO HELL and I as an proud IRANI have all the rights to
express my ideas about my own culture and differences with this one.
Without any doubt Iranian culture is way superior to theAmerican culture
in many respects among which is the way we look at the world, our
expectation from life, the way we treat our family, our elderly, the
way we eat, what we eat, the way we socialize, the way we celebrate
our hollidays and etc.


>Thank you SCI. Now I know we not only have rednecks but major redneck-vatani's
>as well. How sad. 

Let me tell you what is sad.
It is sad that today we are witnessing people who call themselves IRANI
but the only thing they have retained from their Iranian-ness is their
name (in many cases this is not even true).  many of them shameful for
being Irani called themselves Persians and at best tried to be agood
Persian-American (Ajab ma'joone bee mosammaa'ee).
Yes, it is indeed sad to witness awhole generation of Iranian immigrants
going down the American drain.

Your concern about major rdneckness against Americans only seems to be
another characteristic of a person assimilated into this society.

Let's try to be IRANI they way Iranians have always been not they way
we are told to be.


>Aref


Ala