HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: TCP/IP as Netware protocol recommended ?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:49:28 GMT

Hi,

we are in the process of setting up a Novell network, where PC's running
DOS and OS/2 are connected to a Novell server. The RDBMS Oracle 6.0 will
be running on the Novell server as well. We also want to connect a Unix
box to the net, which will send RPC-requests using the TCP/IP protocol
to an OS/2 machine on the LAN.

I heard that now you have got a choice of the underlying protocol in Novell
Netware (IPX/SPX and TCP/IP). Is that true ?

If yes, would I encounter any problems when using the TCP/IP protocol ?
Is TCP/IP supposed to be the "main" protocol to be supported in upcoming
releases of Netware or will Novell stick to IPX/SPX ?

If TCP/IP is supported I would of course prefer using that as the only
protocol on the net.


Does anybody want to comment on that ?

Thanks for any info, Ernst.
--

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ernst Kloecker      phone: ++49-30-6181635      e-mail: ernst@cs.tu-berlin.de
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark Pietrasanta)
Subject: Re: Workstation Error w/SysCon & FConsole
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:04:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.002112.20070@photon.com>, juanman@photon.com (Juan Castaneda) writes:
|> 
|> Question:  I am getting the following error when trying to run
|> SysCon & FConsole from one specific workstation under ver. 3.11:
|> 
|> 	"run-time error R6002
|> 	 - floating point not loaded"
|> 
|> The PC is a 386-25MHZ and I have already tried replacing the NIC.
|> I've been able to run these two utilities a couple of times, but
|> this is only about 5% of the time.
|> 
|> Any tips or insight would be greatly appreciated.  
|> 
|> Thanks in advance,
|> 
|> 
|> Juan Manuel Castaneda
|> Photon Research Associates, Inc.
|> La Jolla, California

Virus!  Virus!  

Maybe not.  Is this some fourth party clone?  It may be
a bum machine (the NIC shouldn't cause this).

If you have time, try low-level formatting the hard disk,
and don't install any TSR's or anything else - just the
NetWare shells.  Then, if it doesn't happen anymore, add
the TSR's one by one and see what happens.

Basically, it's either a Virus, and bum machine, or a conflict
with one of the TSR's (including memory manager) that you have 
loaded.
-- 
Mark Pietrasanta - mpiet@is.morgan.com
* * * * * * * * *

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from
mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

----------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: These responses are my own and in no way reflect the
            views of my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jdsmith@novell.com (Doug Smith)
Subject: Re: Hack.exe
Organization: Novell NPD
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:52:11 GMT

In article <7168@news.duke.edu> low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low) writes:
>From: low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low)
>Subject: Re: Hack.exe
>Date: 19 Nov 92 18:57:43 GMT
>In article <1992Nov19.120307@is.morgan.com> mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark  
>Pietrasanta) writes:
>> I agree!  I wrote one of the two NLM's that can be used to break into a
>> Novell Server.  There is no plug for this, other than securing your
>> console so the NLM can't be loaded (via direct, RCONSOLE, or XCONSOLE).
>> 
>> Want me to talk details?  I provided source code to a lot of people on
>> CompuServe a while ago.  It's really quite simple.
>> 
>> More to follow if requested...
>> -- 
>> Mark Pietrasanta - mpiet@is.morgan.com
>> * * * * * * * * *
>
>The basic premise behind server security is physically securing the box.   
>Getting into a server by loading an NLM is pretty simple, you just have to  
>keep prying hands off your server.  I mean, anybody can cause damage by  
>just pulling the plug!
>
>--
>Richard Low
>Duke University Medical Center
>low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu
>NeXT Mail welcome

Also, you can secure the console (via a password).  This restricts NLMs from 
being loaded from anywhere except SYS:SYSTEM.  If your users don't have 
access to this subdirectory, such an NLM can't be used.

Doug Smith
Novell
jdsmith@novell.com
From: jenkirj@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Problem with RPL and DOS 5.0
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:02:34 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I am in the process of trying to upgrade to DOS 5.0 on my NOVELL
Netware 3.11 LAN.  The problem is that the machines which use the
remote boot file hang.   I tried RPLFIX.COM, which did help, but now
it hangs just after it the machine that is trying to remote boot
attaches to the server.  Anyone had any experience with this and the
solutions?

Thanks,
Rocky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: millerje@CS.ColoState.EDU (Jeff Miller)
Subject: Re: Adaptec Controller Problem
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 09:19:29 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department
Keywords: SCSI Adaptec disk controller

I believe Adaptec has drivers for Netware 3.11, or at least I'm pretty sure
I've seen them at work... if you need part numbers, let me know and I'll check
it out on Monday.

-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
|                                                                             |
| "Nuke the unborn gay whales!" |  millerje@cs.colostate.edu  |  Jeff Miller  |
|_____________________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark Pietrasanta)
Subject: Re: Hack.exe
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:36:35 GMT

In article <7168@news.duke.edu>, low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.120307@is.morgan.com> mpiet@is.morgan.com (Mark  
|> Pietrasanta) writes:
|> > I agree!  I wrote one of the two NLM's that can be used to break into a
|> > Novell Server.  There is no plug for this, other than securing your
|> > console so the NLM can't be loaded (via direct, RCONSOLE, or XCONSOLE).
|> > 
|> The basic premise behind server security is physically securing the box.   
|> Getting into a server by loading an NLM is pretty simple, you just have to  
|> keep prying hands off your server.  I mean, anybody can cause damage by  
|> just pulling the plug!
|> 
|> Richard Low

Yes, but the issue is damaging the data versus getting at it.  It's
a lot more damaging to actually get and read the data, especially if
no one knows (unlike pulling the plug).

This is a security hole, even if it is impossible to plug.  The only
solution is to physically secure the server.  But if that level of
security is broken, your server is completely exposed -- not just to
physical damage, which is detectable after the fact, but to exposure
of data which is not (really) detectable.  This seems _very_ dangerous.

Is there a consensus that this is or isn't a problem?
-- 
Mark Pietrasanta - mpiet@is.morgan.com
* * * * * * * * *

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from
mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein

----------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer: These responses are my own and in no way reflect the
            views of my employer.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Anton-Lam@CSC.mgate1.cuhk.hk (Anton Lam)
Subject: SYSCON v3.62 / NW 3.11 / 10000 accounts !!!
Organization: Computer Services Centre, C.U.H.K.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:55:20 GMT

   Hi everybody, I've a problem in using SYSCON V 3.62 with NW 3.11, 
   would somebody offer me help ?
   
   I've created 10,000 account using makeuser in a new file server
   running NW 3.11. It takes 5 hours and 200MB of disk space. However,
   I cann't use SYSCON 3.62 to manage the user any more. Whenever I 
   select User Information from SYSCON, after a minute or so (long)
   It return Erorr message 
   ERROR       "AppendToList returned error 0"
   DESCRIPTION "The system was unable to allocate addition memory"
   and return to menu.


Many thanks
    
    
    
   
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: peterb@hpber010.swiss.hp.com (Peter Baumann)
Subject: X-Windows <-> Novell Server 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:05:22 GMT
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

One more question :

Is it possible to get some stuff , tools for X-Windows on Workstations ???

Is it possible to configure the Server over a TCP/IP Workstation ?? (X-Window)


Please give me some hints ...


Peter Baumann    

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Mac NW-3.011 problem
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:23:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.145157.285@med.umich.edu> jaynes@med.umich.edu (William Jaynes) writes:
>
>
>I have Netware 3.11 with Mac NW-3.011 installed, as well as NFS1.2.  
>The AFP.NLM is loaded with the nomultiple option.  
>
>One of my volumes has all three name spaces installed, and is used as a shared
>file space for Mac, Dos, and Unix systems.  One of the subdirector structures,
>a rather large one of serveral megabytes, was originally created on a Unix
>system.  When the shared file space became  available we copied (using tar)
>the entire structure over to the shared Novell volume, and began to access 
>files in all three name spaces. I think that this is the only subdirectory
>structure on the volume that was created this way.  Most of the others were
>created originally using Dos or Macs.
>
>I now have a situation which seems to be unique to that subdirectory.  Some,
>but not all, directories and files, when accessed through a Mac, cause the
>following to happen:
>
> 1 - The desktop disappears.  That is, all windows and icons vanish, but the
>     screen doesn't go black.
> 2 - A few seconds pass.
> 3 - The desktop reappears, with all windows collapsed back into the mounted
>     volume icon.
>
>The access can be as simple as closing a folder (it never happens when openning
>a folder) or opening a file with an application.  Permissions all appear
>as they should be, or at least OK to me.
>
Hi,

Yes, this is indeed a strange one!  The first thing to try is to LOAD AFP 
WITHOUT the NOMULTIPLE option.  As I think of this, I am not sure this will 
affect the problem, but it is easy to try and it MIGHT help out...

I am finding that I am wafting on the effectiveness of this suggestion.  I have
just talked myself into believing that it should fix the problem because of the
security issues involved.  Try it out.  Let me know if it works.  If it doesn't
mail me directly and we will work on the problem together...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
From: sfinlay@otc.otca.oz (Stephen Finlay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Novell's Macintosh UAM not 32 bit clean!
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:14:50 GMT
Reply-To: sfinlay@otc.research.otca.oz.au (Stephen Finlay)
Organization: R&D, OTC Sydney, Australia

Is there a version of Novell's UAM for NW4MAC that is 32 bit clean?


Otherwise Mac users with 32 bit addressing enabled can't use netware encrypted
passwords or have passwords > 8 chars in length!


Steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: peterb@hpber010.swiss.hp.com (Peter Baumann)
Subject: FAQ's
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:52:28 GMT
Organization: the HP UK Response Centre
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Hi ...

a question ....:
Can someone post here the FAQ's from Novell or directly to me ???

I have so many questions .. so its better when I read first some FAQ's ...


thanks for reply
From: POTACZAL@UCF1VM.BITNET (Mike 'I am god here...' Potaczala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: nameserver nlm
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:20:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: UCF1VM.92322.092016POTACZAL
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services


  I am looking to see if I can find a Nameserver that runs as an NLM.
I've looked through many ftp sites of Novell programs but cannot find
anything that makes itself obvious as being what I am looking for.  Does
a Nameserver to run on a Novell 3.11 server exist at this time?
From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Hack.exe
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:42:30 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:

| In article <7212@news.duke.edu> low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low) writes:
| >Ah, but as Eric J. Schwertfeger pointed out in his follow up posting,  
| >physicall access to a server is the determining factor.  Even if the console  
| >is secured, I can kill the power (and probably some files) to bring the  
| >server down.  Then all I need is a boot floppy with SERVER.EXE and my set  
| >password NLM on it and I can do my thing.

| Isn't this just a characteristic of your hardware purchase?  I mean,
| all you're saying is that you can get control of your machine before
| NetWare does.  It's hard to fault NetWare for not doing something
| before it gets control.

Very true.

| Just
| require a password to change CMOS, and then without the password the
| server should be unstoppable, shouldn't it?

Not necessarilly.  Just pop the PC's cover (and don't think that those
silly little system unit locks will stop anyone), pull the CMOS battery
and go get some coffee.  In 15 minutes, the PC will forget all about
the CMOS password.

There are limits to how much physical protection you can reasonably
provide for your server.  Building a concrete block-house with it's
own nuclear generating station and retina-scanning entry authenti-
cation is impractical for most applications. 8^)
-- 
_________________________________________________________________________
RUCS     | Mark A. Medici, Systems Programmer III, User Services Division
User     | Rutgers University Computing Services, New Brunswick, NJ 08903
Services | [medici@gandalf.rutgers.edu]                    [908-932-2412]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Can you run XGATE and Charon on the same machine?
X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine: others available on request.
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
X-Newsreader: GNUS 3.14.1
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:25:15 GMT

I've read through the XGATE documentation and seen the bit about needing
to run XGATE on one dedicated PC and Charon on another, but has anyone
tried running them both on the same 486 PC in two separate DOS sessions
under Microsoft Windows 3.1?

Unless anyone's tried it and knows it definitely won't work i'm going to
give it a whirl in a week or two.

TIA - Kevin
--
.signature: no such file or directory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: xtpw@trentu.ca (Peter Wood)
Subject: Re: Public Domain/Shareware E-Mail Package for Novell?
Organization: Trent University, Ontario
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:37:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.182008.6437@netcom.com> peterh@netcom.com (Peter John Harrison) writes:
>
>Pegasus Mail, or P-Mail for short, is a basic e-mail package available via
					 ^^^^^

Not to start a "fave email pkg." war or anything, but I would say Pmail
is a fully-featured email package, in fact more fully featured than
a lot of commercial email packages I've used.

IMHO.

Pete
-- 
Pete Wood
Fleming Data Research 		       INTERNET:
Sir Sandford Fleming College           xtpw@blaze.trentu.ca
Peterborough, ON		       pwood@trentu.ca
Canada				       pete@fleming.mhs.compuserve.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Subject: Re: Help required with PDETHER on a NI6510
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:47:10 GMT

In article <KEVIN.92Nov20173542@calamityjane.edscom.demon.co.uk> kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey) writes:
>I've got an NI6510 ethernet card in my PC.  I got hold of a packet
>driver for it from the Internet, version 9.1 by Russell Nelson, and I
>got PDETHER 1.01 by Don Provan of Novell.

Since this has come up several times in the last couple of weeks,
perhaps i should take this opportunity to "remind" everyone that
PDEther v1.02 is available on sjf-lwp.sjf.novell.com, in
odi/pdether/pde102.zip.  V1.02 fixes a problem PDEther v1.01 had
with modern IPXODI releases.
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
From: smarquar@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (S C Marquard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Opening files in read-only, deny read&write mode
Summary: Opening a file in RO, deny R&W mode denies other users access
Keywords: file-sharing
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:36:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: casper.Bxyo8x.E4G
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town

I tried the following on a NW2.2 network:
 
A user with only [RF] rights in SYS:LOGIN and SYS:PUBLIC runs a program
which opens a file in read-only, deny read&write mode. As one might
expect, any other user is then prevented from reading that file, no matter
what their rights are.
 
Now this is all very well, but what happens when a user (ANY user)
opens, say SYS:LOGIN\LOGIN.EXE, and doesn't close it again. All other
users are then prevented from logging in. The same could be done to 
SYSCON, MAP, you name it...

Is there any way of preventing this, or are all networks vulnerable to
the first obstructionist user who arrives with a program which will
open a file in deny read&write mode and not close it again?
 
I used the following program to test this (compiled with Borland C++ v3.0):
 #include <stdlib.h>
 #include <stdio.h>
 #include <conio.h>
 #include <share.h>
 
 void main(int argc, char* argv[])
 {
   printf("Opening %s in mode %s / %i\n",argv[1], argv[2], atoi(argv[3]));
   FILE *fp= _fsopen(argv[1], argv[2], atoi(argv[3]));
 
   if (fp!=NULL)
      {
       printf("Open...");
       getch();
       fclose(fp);
       printf("closed\n");
      }
 
   return;
 }

GRAB F:LOGIN.EXE rb 16
is enough to cripple things, and can be done by any user.

Any solutions?

Stephen Marquard
University of Cape Town
-------------------------------------------------------------
Internet: smarquar@casper.cs.uct.ac.za
Fidonet: Stephen.Marquard@p3.f120.n7102.z5.fidonet.org
-------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: rg577@thor.albany.edu (Roderick Grau)
Subject: Re: Hack.exe
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 20:04:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.185956.15240@novell.com> donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.151958.19631@sci34hub.sci.com> gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov21.110530.22022@novell.com> donp@novell.com (don provan) writes:
>>The problem that arises here is: what do you do when it's *necessary*
>>to break in?
>
>Yes, this is an important consideration, just as it is for safes and
>locked doors.  I doubt many people would buy a safe that had a
>"hidden" way to open the safe without the combination, though, and i
>don't think many people buying NetWare would want similar features in
>NetWare.  (Although i suppose we should ask safe owners or NetWare
>administrators that have had to break in about that...)
>
>>There are limits to physical security; however, a locked room will 
>>deter the overwhelming majority of attacks.
>
>Yes, this is a really good point, and i'm sorry my post sort of
>sounded like a locked room wasn't still a good idea.  When i said i
>"wasn't worried" about security once it had gotten to the physical
>stage, i was thinking as a Novell developer: given that hardware
>products can be purchased which, when properly installed, will load
>NetWare without any opportunity for unauthorized control, then there's
>nothing else NetWare can do on that front.  That doesn't mean physical
>security isn't useful and important, although it's important to
>keep in mind that no security is absolute.
>						don provan
>						donp@novell.com

Why not use a simple quote from some wise old sage: "No, matter what
precautions you take, you can not make use of something and still have
complete security.  All you can do is slow down a would be criminal in the
hopes that he will be caugth before he finishs his crime."  I think that
accurately sums up this whole thread.
From: gonzalem@ucs.orst.edu (Mario Gonzales)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Apple Talk Routing.. how do you do it???
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:28:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1ef1lrINN2ok
Organization: University Computing Services - Oregon State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Basically.. how do I route apple talk from server to server across
campus if the central router will NOT allow apple talk packets to pass
thru it?

WE have Novell 3.11 w/ Netware 4 mac..

PLEASE HELP With IDEAS! :)

Mario Gonzales

--

University Computing Services
Oregon State University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Help required with PDETHER on a NI6510
X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine: others available on request.
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
X-Newsreader: GNUS 3.14.1
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:35:47 GMT

I've got an NI6510 ethernet card in my PC.  I got hold of a packet
driver for it from the Internet, version 9.1 by Russell Nelson, and I
got PDETHER 1.01 by Don Provan of Novell.

Here's what I do:-

AUTOEXEC.BAT:

	NI6510 -n 0x70
	LSL
	PDETHER
	IPXODI
	NETX

NET.CFG:

	Link Support
		Buffers 8 1514
		Mempool 4K

	Protocol TCPIP
		bind            PDEther
		ip_address      192.199.200.60
		ip_router       0.0.0.0
		ip_netmask      0.0.0.0
		tcp_sockets     8
		udp_sockets     8
		raw_sockets     1
		nb_sessions     4
		nb_commands     8
		nb_adapter      0
		nb_domain

	Packet Driver PDEther
		Int 0x70
		Frame Ethernet_II


I tried "NI6510 -n 0x70 9 0x360" too, which is what the ODI NI6510
driver uses, but the driver seems to ignore the IRQ and PORT arguments
so I left them out.  The "-n" is in there so that IPX packets are framed
using "raw" Ethernet 802.3 instead of Ethernet II.


The problem: NETX hangs!

I started off with version 10.1 of the ni6510 packet driver from Crynwr
Software (how _do_ you pronounce that?) but had exactly the same
problem.  I move the 9.1 driver because the PDETHER doc said that was
the current version at the time of writing.

I know that PDETHER works because I'm using it now on top of ODIPKT and
PKTMUX+PKTDRV*2 so that I can run WinQVT/Net and LAN WorkPlace at the same
time (I do so like File Express, but Host Presenter... sorry).

So where am I going wrong?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kevin
--
.signature: no such file or directory
From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: windows on NW 3.11
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 18 Nov 92  12:26:23

On <Nov 13 12:26> Ajay Barve-273-3023.  System Administrator writes:

 ABSA> We are running windows 3.1 on 16 diskless workstations off of a 3.11 
 ABSA> server. These are 386-25 with 8 mb of memory.  We have turned of 
 ABSA> the virtual memory feature in windows.  We havent had too many 
 ABSA> problems so far.  Its seems to be working fine. I would strongly 
 ABSA> recomend that you turn of the virtual memory feature.

We leave virtual memory turned on here.  Seems to cause no real problems.