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From: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: Re: Yankees protected list
Reply-To: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Organization: Columbia University
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:24:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.004749.4275@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:

>>  It's good to have a deep bench you know!
>
>It's not that deep, because they're protecting all the wrong players, 
>as far as I can tell.
>
>Why not Bam Bam?  Why Mattingly?

Both Bam Bam and Hayes were not protected.  This is simply because
they assume one of the two will be drafted, and they will simply
protect the other as soon as the first one is picked.  According to
close sources on the team, Meulens was closer to be protected than
Hayes.  The source had said that Hayes never considered to be
protected.
As for Mattingly, he HAD to be protected simply because he is a 10/5
guy.

-Mike
From: RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Rockies First Player!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:30:30 GMT
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rockies fans unite!

travis buckley is about 22 1/2 years old, and he's a starting pitcher.
he's got a lifetime era of 3.01 in 500 innings pitched (50.1 in rookie,
289.2 in a, and 160 in aa).

most importantly, he hit 12 batters in 26 games last year.  big don
will probably use him as the batting practice pitcher, to get his boys
psyched up to take one for the team.

bob vesterman.
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mattingly, what a fine fielder (was: Hardly not etc.)
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:44:08 GMT
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In article <1992Nov7.005056.25732@midway.uchicago.edu>  
thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.235721.7949@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>  
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
> >Well I certainly am not about to go around claiming that "in my  
opinion" 
> >Mays was a better fielder than Ruth.  Most of us would accept it  
though
> >without having to refer to any statistics.
> 
> Was Babe Ruth a better hitter than Bob Uecker?  How do you know?

Since Roger a few posts back said that it wasn't a good idea to
even judge hitters by just stats, I'd guess that he wouldn't
be able to tell us that Ruth was a better HITTER than Uecker.
Or did I misread Roger, when, in an earlier post, he said:

> Huh?  "Best" hitter?  No, you can see who had the "best" statistics  
in 1927
> by looking it up in a book.  And if you are prepared to say that  
the "best"
> hitter is the one with the "best" statistics then you are  
unenlightened.
> 

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From: gene@bogus.sw.stratus.com (Eugene Loparco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mattingly, what a fine fielder (was: Hardly not etc.)
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:58:58 GMT
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In article <7911@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov05.005627.159157@zeus.calpoly.edu>  
>
>More to the point though, are all "feelings" created equal?
>(I'm not sure why you empahsized "feels," by the way.)  I've 
>seen Luis Rivera have some real good games at shortstop. (He's
>also had some real bad ones there, but I'll ignore those for
>now.)  Is it reasonable based on that to say that I feel that
>Luis Rivera is as good as Ozzie Smith?  Or, lets take a

I think Mr. Lee's point (and mine) is that if you want to think that
Luis Rivera is as good as Ozzie Smith defensively that is your opinion
and you are entitled to it.

I personally felt that Alvaro Espinoza was an exceptional fielder, in
fact one of the best in baseball, just by seeing him play.  I was flamed
to charcoal for that statement, but I defended myself by saying it was
MY opinion and not fact.

>recent example: Borders had a great world series. Is it
>reasonable for me to say that I feel he is as good a hitter
>as Barry Bonds? He certainly was good in those games
>I watched.  
>
>You have to judge players based on a reasonable number of games.
>A dozen isn't enough. The only way to do this is stats. (Oh,

I disagree.  According to some people on the net the "stats" prove that
Don Mattingly and Andy Van Slyke are mediocre (at best) fielders.  If you
talk to the people who see them all year (namely the players and managers)
you will find that this is simply not the case.

>you can go to all your team's games and say that you think
>one of their players is good and make a reasonable case for
>it, but you still can't do an effective job comparing him
>to another play, who you've only seen ten times or less.)
>
>I've found this (and previous debates) on defense to be rather
>interesting, because it is the last place in baseball where
>many baseball people still try to judge the "best at XXX" just by 
>watching them, not by any coherent statistical basis. We may
>debate which stats make someone the "best power hitter" or
>"best hitter"  (OPS vs. BA vs. SLG vs. OBP vs. all sorts of
>other things). But on defenese for too long it's come down
>to "I watched him and he looked good."  I'll be interested 
>to see if baseball as a whole (and not just isolated pockets
>of stat fans) adopt some kind of better defensive stat in the
>near future.

I don't think there is a defensive stat that can accurately measure a
player's performance...


-Gene
From: srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu (Steven Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Giants to Stay (YUCK!)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 18:35:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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As a Giants season-ticket holder and lifetime fan (since 1958), I must ask
you why you think the only way for Giants fans to prove how much we want
the team is to vote in a stadium?  I'd like to see a new stadium myself,
and I certainly don't want the team to move.  But, especially now that Bob
"$480 million" Lurie will be joined by what is perhaps the most impressive
list of rich guys in the history of professional sports, why should the
fans, who already help subsidize the team through our purchases of
tickets, concessions and souvenirs, be asked to give up public money to
line the wallets of the King of Safeway?  I think Peter Macgowan should
prove how much he wants the team by getting together with his moneyed pals
and building a stadium with their own dough.  And that doesn't make me any
less of a Giants' fan, no matter what Ralph "Mr. Lurie's Lackey" Barbieri
thinks.

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From: sullis@vccnw13.its.rpi.edu (Sean C. Sullivan)
Subject: AL:  Cy Young contenders and pretenders
Organization: Rotisserie Polytechnic Institute (Troy, NY, USA)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:53:20 GMT


PITCHERS        W  L   ERA   G GS CG GF SH SV   INN   H   R  ER HR  BB  SO
ACKER,J         0  0  5.28  17  0  0  3  0  0  30.2  45  19  18  4  12  11
APPIER,K       15  8  2.46  30 30  3  0  0  0 208.1 167  59  57 10  68 150
BROWN,K        21 11  3.32  35 35 11  0  1  0 265.2 262 117  98 11  76 173
CLEMENS,R      18 11  2.41  32 32 11  0  5  0 246.2 203  80  66 11  62 208
ECKERSLEY,D     7  1  1.91  69  0  0 65  0 51  80.0  62  17  17  5  11  93
GUZMAN,JU      16  5  2.64  28 28  1  0  0  0 180.2 135  56  53  6  72 165
MCDOWELL,J     20 10  3.18  34 34 13  0  1  0 260.2 247  95  92 21  75 178
MORRIS,JA      21  6  4.04  34 34  6  0  1  0 240.2 222 114 108 18  80 132
MUSSINA,M      18  5  2.54  32 32  8  0  4  0 241.0 212  70  68 16  48 130

Here are the 1992 stats.
I'll let the rest of you debate about 'who should have won'.

-Sean
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From: ST402747@brownvm.brown.edu (blomberg cepeda)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Who was the favorite player of your youth?
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:01:43 EST
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Carl Yastrzemski--for the Legend
Rico Petrocelli--for the name (and the Fenway uppercut)
Sonny Siebert--for his great start in '71--8-0. First trip east for the West
   Coast teams that year, him and Vida Blue (10-1??) hooked up in one of the
   great games I've ever heard--me and my dad paced the living room till the
   end of a great 4-3 thriller, though of course neither pitcher was around at
   the end.
Marty Pattin--some great games in the '72 race, and his obscene Donald Duck
   impression (see Ball Four)
Willie McCovey--that quiet dignity. The very very large quiet dignity. I once
   saw him, as a Padre, hit a pop in SD against the Dodgers that went for a HR.
   It went way up in the air, Garvey started to come in, Garvey started to go
   out, Buckner (in RF, and a great fielder then!) started to come in, Buckner
   started to go out, then it came straight down on top of the railing.
Anyone on the early '70s Reds who wasn't a pitcher. God, I loved those teams.

               blomberg cepeda     st402747@brownvm

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From: mcclure@ucis.vill.edu (MCCLURE HAROLD)
Subject: Re: Greatest Moments in Baseball History
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Villanova University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:27:00 GMT

#715 (Henry Aaron)

Reggie's 3 homeruns in one world series game
Date: Monday, 9 Nov 1992 12:22:57 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Greatest moments in baseball history
Distribution: na
 <1992Nov09.041317.132149@zeus.calpoly.edu>

the greatest moment in baseball history:

earlier this season, i'm watching a padres game on tv.  now that
the balb!! is in triple-a, my favorite major leaguer is fred mcgriff.
fred comes to the plate.  my buddy beluga, who doesn't follow baseball,
walks into the room.  "come on, beluga," i say, "we've got to root for
fred!"  beluga has no idea who fred is, but starts yelling "come on fred!"
and such.  i do too.  we're really getting into it.  it's like we're at
the game.

fred cranks a monster dinger into orbit.  beluga and i explode.
that was awesome.

bob vesterman.


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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple)
Subject: Re: 1992 stats: fodder for the flame wars
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:54:05 GMT

In article <1d9kmeINNelg@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) writes:
>In article <steph.720869101@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu  
>(Dale Stephenson) writes:
>> According to McWeekly, Terry hit .314 on the road (.307 at home).  Anybody
>> have OB/SLG numbers home and away for Terry?  AFCS is a hitter-friendly
>> park, but I'm not convinced it helped Pendleton much this year.
>       BA / OB / SLG
>Home: .307/.353/.503
>Road: .314/.338/.446
>Sorry. I don't have '91's numbers with me.

1991:
Home: 340/377/561.  Road: 299/350/475.

It certainly didn't help TP as much as it did last year, but his road numbers
are down also.
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From: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: Re: Reds/Yanks Trade
Reply-To: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:38:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.083642.18293@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>In <1992Nov5.204154.20119@novell.com> larrow@novell.com (Les Arrow) writes:
>
>
>The NYT reported today that the Yankees are planning on platooning
>O'Neill with Gerald Williams.  They also noted that there's a nice hole
>in LF now for Bonds to step into.

This would make no sense ... they only traded someone who is valuable
to the team for a PLATOON player?  Not only that, O' Neill is making
1.2 million more then R. Kelly.  Makes no sense whatsoever.
Maybe the Yanks know something we don't.  

>(Speaking of which, the Village Voice rumored that Nokes for Greenwell
>was a possible deal.)

What is the deal with that?  Is it still a possibility?

-Mike
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From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee)
Subject: Re: Rockies 1992 schedule out
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:18:12 GMT

wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:

>Yes, the 1992 tentative Colorado Rockies schedule is HERE. I'm planning to 
>type it in for future reference on here. 

>Would anyone like me to post it?

I just saw my date error. Oops.

the 1993 schedule is now posted under 1993 ROCKIES SCHEDULE.
Look for it in fine stores.
-- 
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From: bradley@novell.com (Brad Soe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Giants Will Stay!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:08:08 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

NL owners voted 9-4 against the Tampa offer. Bob Lurie had a press conference
aftewards stating that he would abide by the decision and will evaluate
the SF offer with an answer within 10 days. The league re-affirmed that it
would like to maintain its current Major League franchises.

Yippie

Brad

Brad Soe
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From: jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy)
Subject: Re: Oakland Rumours (Gimme rundown)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:00:52 GMT

In article <BxBFFq.ACq@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, mlstocku@zeno30.math () writes:
|>  How about some A's fans/followers give us a rundown on trade/signing rumours.
|> Are they going to go after anyone? Who is going to pick up all those oldish
|> picthers?        
|> /Michael
|> 

I heard a rumor that Carney Lansford was coming out of retirement.  Any truth
to this one????

(	:-)	)

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From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Cy Young...When?
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:34:15 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

When is the AL Cy Young announced?

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From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Who was the favorite player of your youth?.
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:45:40 PST
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  Man, the powers of BB just won't let me watch this thread go by without
  adding my two cents... 

  Since I'm in SoCal Angel territory, my fav's were...
     Pitchers     :  Ryan  &  Tanana
     Non-pitchers :  Fregosi (although I hesitate to be that honest)
                      & Rudi


 Minor Fav's ( Greg - ignore this part for your records ) included ...
       Roger Repoz
       Sandy Alomar
       Ken Berry - I always wanted to play centerfield in anahiem, before
                   they closed in the stadium
       Ken McMullen
       Bruce Bochte
       Jim Spencer
   Boy, did I ever waste my youth rooting for losers....   :-)
 Mark Pede
From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Who was the favorite player of your youth?.
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:26:33 GMT
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In article <1574.2afa8514@atlas.nafb.trw.com> mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com writes:
> Minor Fav's ( Greg - ignore this part for your records ) included ...
>       Roger Repoz
Repoz was introduced on national TV at the end of the 1964 season as
"The next great Yankee centerfielder."  He was the chosen successor
to Mantle.  In less than 2 years, he was in Kansas City.
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From: prb@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Botts)
Subject: Re: Reds/Yanks Trade
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:31:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.144501.12017@cbnews.cb.att.com> dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.051935.27076@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>
>>In article <3NOV199219355414@scsuc.ctstateu.edu> aboufadel@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (ABOUFADEL,E) writes:
>>>I heard on the radio that the Yankees have traded Roberto Kelly to the Reds
>>>for Paul O'Neil and a player to be named later.
>>>I think this is a steal for the Yanks.  O'Neil is a solid baseball player, 
>>>while Kelly is questionable.
>
>>Strange.  I was thinking the exact opposite!
>
>I agree, I think the trade fits the Reds' needs better.
>

I *like* Paul O'Neill, in fact I own him in my rotisserie league, but I
damn sure wouldn't trade Roberto Kelly to get him. O'Neill just came off
a truly lousy season for a starting rightfielder, despite a large
homefield boost for his stats. I think the Reds did very well in this
trade.
From: srubio@garnet.berkeley.edu (Steven Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Giants Sale Rejected 9-4
Date: 12 Nov 1992 00:39:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I speak as a fan of the Giants since their arrival in the Bay Area in
1958, as a season ticket holder, as someone who doesn't even hate
Candlestick all that much.

I am not about to argue that the SF Bay Area has proven that it will
support two major league baseball teams, but I *do* want to insist that
the issue is far from decided.  The fact that four stadium proposals have
been voted down in not necessarily evidence of a lack of support.  It is
entirely possible people were voting, not against the Giants, but against
the preposterous notion that a man worth $480 million deserves to have a
new stadium given to him as a present.  I am as beeg a fan of the team as
anyone I know, and, though living in Berkeley I never had a chance to vote
on any stadium proposals, I am fairly certain I would have voted against them.

Again, this does not mean the SF Bay Area will support two teams, but I
don't think the four elections were evidence of the contrary.
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Subject: Re: Cy Young...When?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:18:34 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


Its official now....
The Eck has won it.

S.h
Forever Twins

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From: cmeyer@spiral.Stanford.EDU (Craig Meyer)
Subject: Re: Royals 15-Man Protected List
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 03:52:00 GMT

Rany Jazayerli (camden@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu) wrote:
..  a good description of another KC management screw-up, that
of leaving Jeff Conine off the 15-man protected list.

I agree with Rany's assessment that it was stupid to protect David Howard
over Conine.  Not only is Howard never going to hit well enough to justify
a starting spot, he isn't even healthy.  He has chronic back problems,
whereas Conine seems to have healed well from his wrist problems.
At least Rossy takes an occasional walk and hits an occasional double. 
Howard is younger, but still is not a prospect.

It is worse than that, though.  Strong arguments could be made for
protecting Conine over the following players as well:
  (1) George Brett.  If the management was halfway on the ball, they
  could have worked this out.  They should have asked Brett to agree
  to waive his right to be protected before picking up his option.
  Milwaukee worked something out with Yount, Chicago worked something
  out with Fisk, etc.
  (2) Wally Joyner.  Conine is probably going to be a better player 
  over the next four years, and will be a hell of a lot cheaper.
  At any rate, Joyner is much less likely to be picked by an expansion
  club.  I guess Herk didn't want to appear to be second-guessing himself.
  (3) Brian McRae.  The organization's blindness about him predates his
  Dad's hiring as manager.  KC has an annoying habit of deciding some
  young players are prospects and others aren't, and then ignoring evidence
  to the contrary as the players move into their mid 20's.  

Another annoying thing about not protecting Conine is that KC broke
off the Fernandez talks because San Diego wanted Conine (and/or Mayne).
It seems to me that if you trade Conine for Fernandez and protect Fernandez
instead of Howard you are ahead of the game.  (I wouldn't make that trade,
but the net result is certainly better than losing Conine and keeping Howard.)

I think the protection list indicates that KC thinks that there isn't going
to be a place for Conine to play.  He probably is too slow for the outfield
in KC, they want to keep Joyner at first, and DH is the natural position
for about half of the team already.  Too bad they didn't decide this a while
ago and trade Conine.

--Craig Meyer

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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Subject: Re: NL Stats, 1992 --- Typos?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:53:48 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov11.234953.18647@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au> gerry@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Gerry Myerson) writes:
>Glancing at the NL stats for 1992, I saw a few figures so far out of line 
>that I have to wonder if they are typos. 
>
>Did Lankford really strike out 147 times? No one else in the NL is close. 
>
Yes.

>Did Bonds really walk 127 times? No one else in the NL broke 100. 
>
Yes.

>Did Offerman really make 42 errors? No one else in *either* league is close.
>
Yes, but Kevin Reimer's fielding percentage was comparable...


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