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From: rebill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Russell E. Billings)
Subject: Re: Famous flame wars, examples please?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:06:03 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1gdildINNee6@armory.centerline.com>, jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
> lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick) writes:
>>Does anyone have an article on the history of internet worm?
> 
> There was a pretty good article on it in JACM a couple of years ago
> ('90 I think but I can't remember exactly).  It should be pretty easy
> to find.

Assuming that Jim meant "Communications of the ACM", here is the article
in question:

   Spafford, E.H. The Internet Worm: Crisis and aftermath. Communications
       of the ACM, volume 32, number 6 (June 1989).

I, too, was very glad that my University was not part of the Internet that
day.

Russell Billings
--
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  BITNET : rebill01@ulkyvx.bitnet  UUCP : ...!psuvax1!rebill01@ulkyvx.bitnet
"You can choose a ready guide in some Celestial Voice,
   If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice!"  - Rush
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: What th'hell is a VAXMate?
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:12:39 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
> >If it comes with a pizza-box it might be useful to you.  The pizza box
> >contains a couple of AT bus slots and (usually) an ST225 20MB hard disk.
> >It's mostly PC compatible.  But without the pizza-box it's a boat-anchor.
> 
> The pizza-box w/hard disk was officially withdrawn because the hard disk
> made the thing into an *actual* pizza oven.  No ST-225 could stay up long
> enough.  ("Cooling fans? we don't need no steenkin' cooling fans!")

Oh.  I haven't seen many VAXmates without the pizza box.  Maybe the local
DEC office gave up on the VAXmate when the pizza box went away.  Or maybe
nobdy bought 'em that way.  

They do run hot.  Putting your hand on the top of the case was uncomfortable.
They seemed to mostly work though

> True, unless you are looking for the American Museum of Failures.

Does DECUS US still have the Robin Award?


--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: f3w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Gellis)
Subject: Computers and detective work
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:16:26 GMT

I've become interested in the use of computers for detective and police
work.  (Mostly, if you must know, because I write and I want the informa-
tion for background material.)  Unfortunately, there do not seem to be
many good books on the subject--on the actual nuts-and-bolts, how-they-
do-it stuff.  Does anyone have any information on this subject, either
sources you would recommend, or any interesting stories/folklore/etc.
detailing procedures?  

Thanks in advance.

Mark
f3w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org (Bob Billson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Proper pronounciation of 'Kibo'
Summary: belch
Date: 10 Dec 92 22:28:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Color Computer 3: Tandy's 'game' machine

chronos@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Tom Wilbur) says:
 [..stuff gone...]

>Reminds me of the story (and, of course, possible UL) when I was at
>the 1985 BSA National Jamboree in Fort A.P. Hill, VA., and a friendly
>little hurricane stopped by to pay its regards.  Massive winds ripped
>through the campsites, blowing over tents and, yes, port-a-potties.
>Supposedly, one occupied KYBO even blew over *door-down*.
>
>Blech!

On  a slightly related note, a ham friend of mine was at a hamfest once with
his HT (handie-talkie for non-hams) clipped on his belt.  He entered the 
KYBO/Kibo just as he started to sit down his HT came off his belt and in it
went.  Not wanting to leave his $300 HT in there he fished it out (blech!),
wiped it off with some toilet paper and left to find some fresh water.  He
figured the HT was already ruined so rinsing it off under water certainly
wouldn't do any more harm.  Surprisingly, the HT worked just fine after he
cleaned and dried it off.  To this day it has the slight odor of disinfectant
from its dip, but no other smell.  Nor has it ever given him any trouble.
Guess it knows what will happen to it if it starts malfunctioning. :-)
-- 
  Bob Billson, KC2WZ                          | internet: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org
  $nail:  21 Bates Way,  Westfield, NJ 07090  | uucp:     ...!uunet!kc2wz!bob

  "Professional ear piercing--while you wait!"  --sign in local jewelry store
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re:  Famous flame wars, examples please?
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:51:41 GMT

In article <alien.01vm@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>In article <BywBLt.99E@NeoSoft.com> claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes:
>>Proposed taxonomy:
>>I.  Usenet-specific disputes:
>>    A.  renamings [multitudinous]
			.
			.
			.
>Classification by newsgroup distribution
>   1. Restricted to one newsgroup
>   2. Cross-posted to a small number of related newsgroups
>   3. Cross-posted to completely unrelated newsgroups by some idiot
>   4. Cross-posted all over the net
>
>Classification by population
>   1. One person vs one person
>   2. Small clique vs small clique
>   3. One person vs all and sundry
>   4. Large number of people vs large number of people
>   5. One complete newsgroup vs another
>
>Classification by life cycle
>   1. Short-lived (a few weeks), then sinks without trace
>   2. Long-lived (several months)
>   3. Short-lived in any one incarnation, but keeps popping up again
>   4. Immortal
>
>Classification by outcome
>   1. All participants convinced of one side's point of view (rare!)
>   2. Most participants convinced apart from a small but vocal minority
>   3. Inconclusive, nobody convinced of anything (except that there are
>      a lot of idiots on the net, which we all know already)
			.
			.
			.
Apart from advertising Mr. Smith's neat scheme, I
want to congratulate myself for starting my draft
with "renamings".  As I've thought about it over
the weekend, these truly are the worst.  Perhaps
the point is something like Henry Kissinger's old
saw on academic politics:  they're so vicious be-
cause the stakes are so low.  One illustration:
there are a number of newsgroups (bionet.{various},
*.engr*, ...) that are moribund, except when a
question arises about the name of a group.  A burst
of activity flares up, and occasionally someone
asks, "How can so many people care about whether
autopsy reports are medical or legal documents,
when so few people actually read them or discuss
them?", then the group slumps back to its usual
fortnightly, "Please unsubscribe me from this
bulletin board." distraction.  We cannot hope to
make outsiders truly grok usenetness until we can
explain this bathos.
-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: "FOO" and Re: 8008 related to PDP-11? (was: What is so greate ...)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:51:25 GMT

slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser") writes:

[responding to a comment on the PDP-1 assembler as an origin for the 
 syntax of the assemblers for later PDP-xx systems] 

>As anyone knows who used PAL-8, PAL-III, MACRO-8, etc. on the PDP-8.  (Comma
>for tags, slash for comments, the letter `I' for indirection, etc.)

I can't speak for the later PDP-xx assemblers, but on the PDP-1 the *symbol*
"i" was used to specify an indirect operation.  The MACRO (that's the name
of the assembler; no qualifiers were appended to it) syntax used a space
as an implied addition operator, and all components of the instruction in the
Flexowriter input had values which were added together.  Thus if the symbol
"foobar" represents a word at address 456 (octal), then the instruction:

      dio i foobar

will be compiled as the sum of three values:

      320000   dio
       10000   i
         456   foobar
      ------
      330456   the resulting 18-bit instruction which would deposit the
               contents of the I/O register in the location pointed to
               by "foobar".

The value of the symbol "i" was hardwired into the assembler's symbol
table.

A comma following a symbol defines that symbol as the current location
counter; a slash following an expression changes the location counter
to the value of the expression.  The current location counter is 
referenced with a period, and a string beginning with a slash is a comment.

Joe Morris / MITRE
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: wex@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul M. Wexelblat)
Subject:  "FOO" and Re: 8008 related to PDP-11? (was: What is so greate ...)
Originator: wex@bigmax.ulowell.edu
Reply-To: wex@cs.ulowell.edu
Organization: Univ. of Lowell CS Dept.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:58:09 GMT


In article <1992Dec17.101545.62137@cc.usu.edu>, ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!) writes:
|> From: ivie@cc.usu.edu (CP/M lives!)
|> Subject: Re: 8008 related to PDP-11? (was: What is so greate ...)
|> Date: 17 Dec 92 16:15:45 GMT
|> 
|> In article <1992Dec16.202505.28364@news.uiowa.edu>, jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) writes:
|> > 
|> > Furthermore, as someone who's programmed both Intel 8080 and PDP-11
|> > machines, I've noticed that, although the instruction sets are wildly
|> > different, the assembly language of the 8080 owes quite a bit to that
|> > of the PDP-11.  That is, conventions for comments, labels, and white
|> > space are DEC-ish.  Furthermore, when Zilog introduced their Z-80, they
|> 
|> If only they had managed to borrow the convention

	.  .  .

Of course the PDP-11 Assembler is based on the  Non-DEC Assembler
for the PDP-1...  (The PDP-1 was a single address machine and thus didn't
have the source-dest  vs. dest-source  problem.)  However, many of the 
syntax/punctuation conventions that we associate with DEC were not theirs
at all.  Colon for tags, semi for comments, etc.  (They didn't even write DDT.) 

The earliest PDP-1 Assembler used two characters for symbols (18 bit machine)
programmers always left a few words as patch space to fix problems.  (Jump to patch
space, do new code, jump back)  That space conventionally was named  FU: 
which stood for Fxxx Up, the place where you fixed Fxxx Ups.  When spoken,
it was known as FU space.  Later Assemblers ( e.g. MIDAS allowed three char tags
so FU became FOO, and as ALL PDP-1 programmers will tell you that was FOO space.

I will never be convinvced by and computer type (who was unborn in those days)
of ANY other origin of the term FOO in the parlance.
-- 

	...Wex
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From: sarr@sinshan.citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.sys.pdp8
Subject: Re: The NOVA and the PDP-11  (Was Re: WANTED: PDP-10 or 11)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 14:24:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, CITI
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sinshan.citi.umich.edu

In article <1992Dec13.190931.18700@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
>
>Actually, there was a sensible reason that DEC used small cards.  The
>PDP-6 (the machine that the PDP-10 was almost as good as) used great big
>cards with lots of pins per connector.  Unfortunately, the connectors
>didn't work very well.  A standard diagnostic technique when a PDP-6 was
>flaking was to open the back and hit all the modules with a rubber mallet.
>For that among other reasons the PDP-6 was a marketing failure and they
>only built 20 of them.
>
Some of this, of course, was due to DEC's fondness for using vertical
backplanes where the connector was the _only_ mechanical support the
cards had.  I once watched some slighly inebriated movers run a KA-10
up a ramp a little too hard; some of the noards just popped out.  Of
course after we put them back in it worked fine.


(Sarr Blumson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Subject: Re: PI
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:30:13 GMT

In article <10503@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> valdis@black-ice.cc.vt.edu (Valdis Kletnieks) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.134732.3739@piccolo.cit.cornell.edu> smr2@cornell.edu (Szymon Rusinkiewicz) writes:
>>Daniel Drucker (daniel@mertwig.uucp) writes:
>>>A while back people were asking for the 50000 digits of pi; if anyone is 
>>>still looking for it, please mail me with a subject of "send pi".
>>
>>>If I get more than 15 requests in the first day, I will post it.
>>
>>For THE 50000 digits of pi? Since when is pi finite?   :-)
>
>Well, if you're enough of a wizard, you can declare 'pi' to have
>as many digits as you want. ;)
>
>Personally, I'm amazed that our buddy Daniel was able to write a
>program that was able to compute a 50,000 digit result, and didn't
>clue in that 'pi' is an irrational number.
>
>Back to folklore - what's everybody's favorite fast-converging
>series expansion for 'pi'?

Simple and fast: 22/7



Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |    one.
karthik@cs.columbia.edu    | By "recursion" I mean "defined by recursion".
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.folklore.urban,alt.religion.kibology
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Proper pronounciation of 'Kibo'
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:50:27 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.151353.9559@adimail.uucp> tel@adimail.uucp (Terry Monks) writes:

>You don't need to, the pronoun concept is included in the word, which
>declines
>		  Kibo
>		  Kibas
>		  Kibat
>		  Kibamus
>		  Kibant
>		  Klaatu     (Kibare is *very* irregular)
>
                  ^^^^^^

Sheesh!  I thought that KIBO was Gort's love child.

cj "Gort! Klaatu borata nicto!" l
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From: daniel@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,dfw.general,dfw.news,k12.misc.junior,k12.misc.senior,k12.
Subject: Re: GUINEA PIG update -- FTP site available
Keywords: guinea,pig,emoticon,smiley,smilie,face
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 18:05:32 EST
Reply-To: daniel%mertwig@uunet.uu.net  (Daniel Drucker)
Organization: Abnormalities of Reality

madison@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ben Madison) writes:

> adam@owlnet.rice.edu (Adam Justin Thornton) writes:
> 
> >Does EMOTICON.PS strike anyone else as a little ludicrous?
> 
> 
> Apart from sounding a bit like an analgesic, you mean?

Having problems in your life lately? Feeling burned by the flames of your
favorite newsgroup?  Headaches from coding for 72 hours straight? Try
EMOTICON PS, for fast acting relief :-) .



--
Daniel Max P. Drucker   Amateur radio: N2SXX   xyzzy%mertwig@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Famous flame wars, examples please?
From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:12:59 GMT+12
Organization: It's Home, really...
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

    If the person who started this thread is still hanging in there and
would like to see a real live flame war, with rational aguments slinging it
out with unsubstantiated statements, and a bit of name-calling slung in as
well, they may be foolish enough to look into comp.sys.amiga.programming
and, to a lessor extent, comp.sys.amiga.hardware where the, uh, wisdom of
Commodore not publishing a hardware reference manual for their new
generation of custom chips is being, shall we say, debated.

--
 Liam Greenwood ------ liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz ------ Wanganui, N.Z.
                 Don't tell my Mother I'm a programmer,
               she thinks I'm a piano player in a brothel

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Proper pronounciation of 'Kibo'
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:09:08 GMT

In article <BzDnB5.6LH@geovision.gvc.com> pt@geovision.gvc.com writes:
>
>Paul "Gibo - Garbage In, Bozocity Out" Tomblin
                          ^^^^^^^^

Wasn't Bozo City an obscure Jan and Dean song?

cj "two girls for every boy" l
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: What is so greate about the PDP 10?
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:07:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.145658.426@webo.dg.com> dlewine@nf01.webo.dg.com writes:
> Most of the great leaps forward in computing were compatible with nothing and 
> broke new ground.  For example, the Macintosh.

And you were doing so well until this point.

The Mac was not a great leap forward. The Xerox 1100 and Star were a great leap
forward... the Mac was a shoddy knock off, and its advantage is social (cheap,
and Apple kept the developers sticking to their interface model) not technical.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
 `-_-'   Oletko halannut suttasi tnn?
  'U`    
Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Proper pronounciation of 'Kibo'
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:07:32 GMT

In article <1gjp76INNolf@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.031026.20280@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>%In article <27961@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>%>std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca writes:
>%>
>%>  +Kibo, what do you do on the net?  Also, what do you do in the real world?
>%>
>%>What's the difference?
>%
>%No one ever asks you to get a net.
>
>Has anyone ever asked you to get a real world, then?

Yes, some accounting packages actually.  (Used to be MCBA.)

But lately, only that subset of the Real World (tm) known as a Life.

>
>Jason
>-- 
>    "Merry Xvob!"      Jason L Saunders [ RouE ]       "Merry Xvob!"
      ^^^^^ ^^^^

Didn't she sing with Mick Jagger on "Gimme Shelter"? (or was that the un-ROT
KIBO?)


>                     email: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk
>snail: Warwick Business School, University of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL, UK
>

cj "Never write any accounting programs in any language but KIBOL" l
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,alt.sys.pdp8
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: The NOVA and the PDP-11  (Was Re: WANTED: PDP-10 or 11)
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:05:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.190931.18700@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
>lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>>It apparently came down to the fact that the "green light" had been given
>>for the NOVA project, and sub-design teams formed, etc.  Note that one of
>>the design goals for this project was to use larger boards to overcome the
>>limitations of FLIP-CHIP modules which can't have much functionality per
>>card because of lack of fingers.  ...
>
>Actually, there was a sensible reason that DEC used small cards.  The
>PDP-6 (the machine that the PDP-10 was almost as good as) used great big
>cards with lots of pins per connector.  Unfortunately, the connectors
>didn't work very well.  A standard diagnostic technique when a PDP-6 was
>flaking was to open the back and hit all the modules with a rubber mallet.
>For that among other reasons the PDP-6 was a marketing failure and they
>only built 20 of them.

Two things:

First of all, those big connectors don't really have more pins, they have
bigger pins, and they're gold-plated, but because they are short, they can
be flakey, especially with a massive card on the other end of the connector,
so it's a matter of bad choice of connector mechanism, not quantity of
connections.  Also, the PDP-6 and KA-10 era doesn't have the problems I'm
talking about, namely when TTL came into vogue.  Now you had too much logic
and not enough local interconnect if the only way to interconnect was at
a module level with only 36 pins total.  So, bigger cards allows for more
pins to interconnect with, and encourages local chip interconnections that
are not brought out to the connector at all.

Second, I heard they made 20 PDP-6's, yet someone else insists 23.

>
>The later KA10, the first PDP-10, used small Flip-Chip modules the same
>size as the ones used in the wildly successful original PDP-8.  (The -10
>was mostly B series modules, which were faster than the R and S series
>used in the PDP-8.)  It wasn't until the PDP-11/45 that DEC found large
>connectors in which they had confidence, and even then, the 11/45's cards
>had little latches that you used to force the connectors very firmly into
>their sockets.

Wrong, the Omnibus predates the 11/45, and uses multiple connectors of the
small variety on a big card.  The hex boards were used in those -11's and
then the 8/a.  I'm not sure if hex boards predate Q-bus, but in any case the
Omnibus is older than both of them, and was being developed at about the
same time as the UNIBUS itself, although not made out of hex boards back then.

[good stuff deleted]

Since they had the "style" of the 36-bits, and the "guts" of the 12-bits,
DG was a "generic" DEC rip-off.  In any case, that's what happens when you
pull the plug of a carefully planned project over a hastily formed weekend.

cjl
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From: daniel@mertwig.uucp (Daniel Drucker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Famous flame wars, examples please?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:45:32 EST
Reply-To: daniel%mertwig@uunet.uu.net  (Daniel Drucker)
Organization: Abnormalities of Reality

lowen@lorc.eskimo.com (Lamar Owen) writes:

> In <g760uB5w165w@mertwig.UUCP> xyzzy@mertwig.UUCP (Daniel Drucker) writes:
> >gorokho1@husc10.harvard.edu (Zhenya Gorokhovsky) writes:
> 
> >> norlin@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Norman Lin) writes:
> >> 
> >> > On sci.skeptic, there was a 'David Tiberio' who claimed to have
> >> > invented a perpetual motion machine.  Naturally, the audience of
> >> > sci.skeptic being what it is, this resulted in months and months of
> >> > flamage.  In fact, there was so much traffic on that single topic
> >> > that I unsubscribed to the group and haven't been there since.  (For
> >> > all I know they could STILL be discussing it.)
> 
> >Kill file? Whats that?
> 
> Unfortunately, Waffle doesn't yet support killfiles in the 1.65 release
> (which is what you are running).

If you look carefully, you'll note that there is no mention of killfiles in
my quoted text. Therefore, I know what a killfile is. What I mean is that
he could simply put the subject into his killfile instead of unsubscribing
the group.

Waffle itself doesn't have killfiles, but the newsreaders for it do.


--
Daniel Drucker        N2SXX       Coconut seashells whispering to me
daniel%mertwig@uunet.uu.net         "Forever, forever, my Coda..."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Apple IIGS being discontinued Dec 1992