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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:49:54 EDT
From:         rselfe@MTU.EDU
Subject:      irc sites?

Becky,
What are some of the IRC sites to Telnet to?
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:31:38 --500
From:         "David E. Schwalm" <IACDES@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Help with gender-neitral terminology

 *** Reply to note of 07/27/92 08:43
 How about "Faculty Indoctrinees? Just kidding, trying to fit in in Arizona.
 Why not call them "Learners" or "Learner-Practitioners"? Back to Arizona: how
 about "Fellows and Gals"? Actually, we would probably do better to establish
 the gender neutrality of "fellows" by consistently applying it to both
 genders. Who will turn down a McArthur Fellowship?

 -- David E. Schwalm, Assoc. Provost for Academic Programs
 ___Arizona State University West
 ___4701 West Thunderbird Rd.
 ___Phoenix, AZ 85069-7100___(602) 543-4500
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:09:14 CDT
From:         Eric Crump <C509379@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      IRC on uncritical enthusiasm

Great idea, Becky. Rockie and I (the *only* loyal souls to show up
Tuesday night :/  ) had talked about suggesting a different reading
assignment for next tuesday, but more people will be familiar with
Cindy and Gail's CCC piece, so that will work out better anyway.
I'll be there.

The article Rockie suggested--Deborah Brandt's "The Cognitive as
Social: An Ethnomethodological approach to writing process research"
in Written Communication--we could deal with Wednesday or Thursday of
next week if folks are game. Maybe Thursday afternoon even.
That gives us time to fetch the article and digest it (burp).
--Eric Crump
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:21:00 EDT
From:         Joe Essid <ESSID@URVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: writing pedagogy

Tim:

The University of Richmond recently added a computer-supported writing
classroom with networked machines capable of running up-to-date
software.  This left me scrambling to discover which pieces of software
our faculty would like to use in the classroom.  After working with
several instructors who will work in the new room, we decided upon
a few pieces of software for those new to teaching with computers:

--Bedford's *Hotline* on-screen handbook.  This comes as a freebie for those
who adopt the *Bedford Handbook*; Bedford Books even gave us a site license.
The software is limited in scope, since it only covers issues of mechanics,
grammar, documentation, etc.  We liked *Hotline* because it is very
compatible with *WordPerfect 5.1*, which we use in our classroom.  Students
have also found *Hotline* very easy to use.

--Daedalus.  Actually, our University Computing office bought this one
without asking any of us in the English Department, but we're all happy
to have it.  I'm a novice with this software, but we will begin to use
it this year for collaborative writing assignments.

--We wrote *WordPerfect* macros.  Since *Hotline* does not discuss the
writing process, writing-in-the-disciplines, etc., we wrote another
set of on-screen helpers that deal with a range of topics.  This was
time-consuming, but CHEAP.  It also enabled faculty in our writing-
across-the-curriculm program to get involved with our project.

Joe Essid
University of Richmond   (Essid@urvax.bitnet, Essid@urvax.urich.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 15:04:46 EDT
From:         Bill Condon <USERLCBK@UMICHUM.BITNET>
Subject:      Help with gender-neitral terminology

I'm a member of a group that is writing a grant to encourage
multicultural teaching methods.  As part of our proposal, we want
to train a group of people to offer workshops in multicultural
teaching to others in their home departments/disciplines.
Right now, the language in the proposal calls them "Faculty Fellows."
Can anyone help us come up with a more gender-neutral term, since
undoubtedly many of the "Fellows" will not be fellows.  We tried
"Scholars," but that doesn't really fit what they are doing, and
the issue is clouded somewhat by the fact that "Fellow" has a kind
of local cache--Michigan being a whitemale sort of place--and
we'd like to keep the implied status but get rid of the
gender-exclusiveness.  Suggestions?

Thanks,
Bill Condon
userlcbk@umichum
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:10:00 EDT
From:         "Composition Digest (Robert Royar,
              Moderator)" <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
Subject:      (Fwd: *C&CD*) universal audience (was Re: Communication Model?)
              (1) (1)

Date: 24 Jul 1992 10:16:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Charles A. Hill" <ch2i+%ANDREW.CMU.EDU@CARNEGIE.BITNET>
Message-id: <YeQ12c_00UhB41bH8A@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: universal audience (was Re: Communication Model?)         (1) (1)
Reply-to: Computers & Composition Digest (R. Royar) <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>

As I understand the notion of the universal audience, it implies that
the rhetor builds a mental picture of how well-informed and "rational"
(whatever that means to the writer) readers might respond to various
appeals.  The rhetor then builds his or her own arguments accordingly.

If you're trying to get published in a journal, or arguing a case in
front of a judge, then I think the universal audience is a relevant
concept.  As I work on my dissertation (which I should be doing now),
I'm constantly hearing the voices of both certain individuals and
generalized others.  The concept of universal audience is meant to be
descriptive rather than to offer a model to follow, but it might have
some heuristic value for people in these situations.

But if you're trying to persuade readers who you are convinced are
ill-informed or irrational or not too bright, then I don't think the
concept is very helpful.  Conceivably, you could say, "How would the
ideal universal audience respond to this argument?  Now how do my
readers differ from this ideal audience?"  But that seems to be taking
the long way around just to get to what you probably already know.

Anyone have a different take on it?  (No, I certainly *don't* claim to
be an expert on the Belgians.)

Charlie Hill
ch2i@andrew.cmu.edu

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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:59:39 --500
From:         "David E. Schwalm" <IACDES@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Moderated IRC?

 *** Reply to note of 07/30/92 08:30
 I'm building an Ark. We're drowning in the desert too. We got over 2 inches of
 rain one day last week, and wegot trounced last night too. Send pairs fuzzy
 mammals. All we've got are reptile and insects (I refer to the state
 legislature). Burble, burble. . . .

 -- David E. Schwalm, Assoc. Provost for Academic Programs
 ___Arizona State University West
 ___4701 West Thunderbird Rd.
 ___Phoenix, AZ 85069-7100___(602) 543-4500
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:57:50 --500
From:         Allene Cooper <IFCAC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: communications models, again

 *** Reply to note of 07/21/92 09:18
 Jim S. (BTW, how many Jim's are there out there??) No, I have not already
 formed my model.  My objective: to discover a model (read metaphor) for
 communication that is simple,and so,easy for mba students to memorize and
 one that is also powerful enough for them to use in any rhetorical
 situation that may arise in their managerial lives.  My criteria also
 include that this metaphor be one that allows for the subtleties of
 the human spirit (read unpredictable human heart and mind).
 Jim Mc: I'm intrigued by Ong's "knowledge....in conversation" because
 I also want to include the notion of social construction in my
 teaching.  I know I'm really mixing something up here: model and process,
 metaphor and philosophy of knowledge.  Help! Somebody.  Anyway, can you
 tell me more about this notion of Father Ong's?  Changing to something
 else you said- the Platonic One, the model that is sort of ametaphorical
 and could best be applied to any constructed symbol of communication
 I think would be Aristotle.  I definitely don't reject Aristotle in
 theory.  Love it.  But a simple, memorizable metaphor for business
 students, he's not.

 -- Allene Cooper
 Dept. of Business Administration            (602) 965-3231
 Ass't Director, Writing Across the Curriculum  (602)965-3097
 Arizona State Univ., Tempe, AZ 85287  BITNET: IFCAC@ASUACAD
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:35:33 HST
From:         James Shimabukuro <JAMESS@UHUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Help with gender-neitral terminology

I can't think of a gender-neutral term, but I think the effort is wonderful.
Bob Franco and I recently edited/published a four-volume set entitled _Beyond
the Classroom: International Education and the Community College_ (U of
HI-Kapiolani CC, 1992) as part of an AACJC/Kellogg Foundation Beacon Project.
 It includes articles from ten American community colleges.  The volume
titles are: I. Internationalizing the Curriculum with an Asian-Pacific
Emphasis, II. Internationalizing the Campus Environment, III. Creating
Institutional Links in Asia and the Pacific, IV. Working with Local Business
to Enhance Asian-Pacific Understanding.

The emphasis in the volumes isn't quite the same as yours, but some of the
information may be pertinent.

Jim
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:13:25 HST
From:         James Shimabukuro <JAMESS@UHUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: communications models, again

Allene Cooper: I agree with you that "metaphors ARE important."  But a
metaphor is a metaphor, a model is a model, and a system is a system.  These
are terms for the X that you are looking for.    Whether X is more or less
human depends on the design.  Regardless of connotations or implications, we
need to remember that X is a construct.  Are you looking for different labels
for an X that you've already formed?  I see what appears to be a confusion in
objectives.
Jim
jamess@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:04:30 CDT
From:         Michael O'Conner <C359452@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Is Western Carolina U On Line???

Can someone tell me if Western Carolina University is hooked
up to bitnet or internet, and if so what their address is???
Respond directly, please.

Michael O'Conner, C359452@Mizzou1
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:47:16 EDT
From:         rselfe@MTU.EDU
Subject:      Help with gender-neitral terminology

>We tried
>"Scholars," but that doesn't really fit what they are doing, and
>the issue is clouded somewhat by the fact that "Fellow" has a kind
>of local cache--Michigan being a whitemale sort of place--and
>we'd like to keep the implied status but get rid of the
>gender-exclusiveness.  Suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Condon



How about 'Faculty Consultants?'
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:21:02 HST
From:         James Shimabukuro <JAMESS@UHUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Writing pedagogy

Tim: Please contact Judi Kirkpatrick at Kapiolani Community College, 4303
Diamond Head Road, Honolulu, HI 96816.  She's our Daedalus coordinator.

Jim
jamess@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:14:00 EDT
From:         RODONOGH@WNEC.BITNET
Subject:      PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE

pLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FOR THE REST OF THE SUMMER.  ROSEMARY O'DONOGHUE
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:15:00 EST
From:         00D0HENRIKSE@BSUVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Welcome Mandy!

Likewise; Welcome, Mandy.  I, too just began the megabyte journey this
summer and find it most enjoyable.

I'd vote for neither megabunnies (too Playboyish) nor megabees (too
aggressive), but rather megabrights as that's what one has to be to
figure out all this stuff!

I'm off to play for a week in the South; will it ever quit raining?

Donna Henriksen   00d0henrikse@bsu
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:50:32 -0400
From:         eng_allen@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU
Subject:      email exchanges

Hi Mark Harris,

Sorry for writing you here, but the mail I send to your um address
keeps getting bounced back.

My students won't be appropriate to exchange with yours (I'm teaching
a manual writing course this fall and incorporating email), but I'd like
to hear your comments on what makes such exchanges work.  I had limited
success last spring and would like to do better this year.  Got any
suggestions?  Thanks.

Nancy Allen
eng_allen@emunix.emich.edu
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:28:35 -0400
From:         R_CONNORS@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Subject:      RE: (Fwd: *C&CD*) Any Mark Leyner fans around? (6)

Yes, Rob, I've been a Leyner fan since 1990, when I discovered MCMG on a
tour around the country.  I can still remember almost losing control of
the car on Rt. 91 as my wife struggled to read "Big Squirrel" out loud
to me as I drove.  Leyner absolutely cuts to the heart of the more
technocratic ideolects that hang like smoke in our air and makes them
serve new purposes through deft juxtaposition of their essential un-
humanness with human needs and desires.  I've also got a copy of his
first book, *I Smell Esther Williams*, but it's not as fully developed.
He really only hgits his stride with MCMG.

I've been trying to figure out a course that would allow me to teach
Leyner, Bogosian, Generation X, and some other of the new stuff, but
"Cult Lit" is the best title I can come up with, and I'm not sure I
can convince the desperate Spenserian down the hall that this is the
best that's been thought and said. . .

If you can get hold of it, I also recommend Martin Amis' new one,
*Time's Arrow.*

Best, Bob C.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:37:00 EST
From:         BECKY RICKLY <00RJRICKLY@BSUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: collaborative classes

Sorry to send this over the net, but my personal messages keep
bouncing back.  Mark Harris, several of us at Ball State
would be interested in having our classes communicate with
others outside our university using interchange and modem.  Give
me some info. about how we might set this up.

Becky Rickly
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From: maryelen@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mary Ellen )
Subject: Purpose of this group
Organization: Industry Science & Technology Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:29:06 GMT

Hello there!

I am currently compiling a list of newsgroups which might be of
interest to the officers here at Industry, Science, and Technology
Canada. I would like to find out what the function of this group
is. As well, if any of you out there know of some industry,
science, technology, or international trade-related databases,
bbs's, newsgroups etc. out there, could you please let me know by
e-mail?

Thanks in advance!
Mary Ellen Foster
MARYELEN@hfx001.ns.istc.ca
Organization: Valencia University (Universitat de Valencia) SPAIN
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 14:44:04 EST
From: Rogelio Montanana <MONTANAN@EVALUN11.BITNET>
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Subject: Re: Another gateway sprung up?

In article <Brr11E.AGK@cs.psu.edu>, flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee) says:
>
>psuvax1 has just junked many articles with headers of the form:
>
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>Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication
>Message-ID:   <1992Jul20.184410.17658@pro-harold.cts.com>
>Newsgroups: bit.listserv.info-app,es.listserv.info-app
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>Comments:     <Parser> W: Field "Resent-Message-ID:/Message-ID:" duplicated.
>              Last occurrence was retained.
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>From:         David Green <dcgreen@PRO-HAROLD.CTS.COM>
>Subject:      Re: ProLine 2.0 Ships!
>Comments: To: info-apple@apple.com
>In-Reply-To:  mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
>
>
>The Newsgroups: line of every article is crossposted.  There are a
>dozen or so newsgroups that aren't in the standard bit.listserv list.
>
>The "Message-ID: duplicated" message in the Comments: is troubling.
>--

Please accept my apologies for this inconvenience; we have been the originators
of this junk :-(.

We have PSU Netnews in our system, and were trying to setup a local
BITNET --> Usenet gateway. During three days we have been sending
unintentionally several bit.listserv groups to the usenet; when we became
aware of the problem we stopped the service immediately.

We have sent about 800 messages and 12 bit.listserv groups.

Regards,
Rogelio.



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From: ics$3662@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: bit.admin
Subject: Re: Another gateway sprung up?
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:32:36 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

In article <Brr11E.AGK@cs.psu.edu>, flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee) writes:
> psuvax1 has just junked many articles with headers of the form:
> 
> Path: psuvax1!psuvm!frmop11!evalun11!PRO-HAROLD!DCGREEN
> Approved: NETNEWS@EVALUN11.bitnet gateway
> References: <1992Jul20.211716.23585@crash.cts.com>
> Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication
> Message-ID:   <1992Jul20.184410.17658@pro-harold.cts.com>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.info-app,es.listserv.info-app
> Date:         Mon, 20 Jul 1992 18:44:10 PDT
> Reply-To:     Info-Apple@Apple.COM
> Sender:       INFO-APP Info-Apple List <INFO-APP@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
> Comments:     <Parser> W: Field "Resent-Message-ID:/Message-ID:" duplicated.
>               Last occurrence was retained.
> Comments:     <Parser> W: Field "Message-ID:" duplicated. Last occurrence was
>               retained.
> From:         David Green <dcgreen@PRO-HAROLD.CTS.COM>
> Subject:      Re: ProLine 2.0 Ships!
> Comments: To: info-apple@apple.com
> In-Reply-To:  mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
> 
> 
> The Newsgroups: line of every article is crossposted.  There are a
> dozen or so newsgroups that aren't in the standard bit.listserv list.
> 
> The "Message-ID: duplicated" message in the Comments: is troubling.
>help me
 --
From: ics$3662@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: bit.admin
Subject: Re: Another gateway sprung up?y
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:36:32 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

In article <Brr11E.AGK@cs.psu.edu>, flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee) writes:
> psuvax1 has just junked many articles with headers of the form:
> 
> Path: psuvax1!psuvm!frmop11!evalun11!PRO-HAROLD!DCGREEN
> Approved: NETNEWS@EVALUN11.bitnet gateway
> References: <1992Jul20.211716.23585@crash.cts.com>
> Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication
> Message-ID:   <1992Jul20.184410.17658@pro-harold.cts.com>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.info-app,es.listserv.info-app
> Date:         Mon, 20 Jul 1992 18:44:10 PDT
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> Sender:       INFO-APP Info-Apple List <INFO-APP@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
> Comments:     <Parser> W: Field "Resent-Message-ID:/Message-ID:" duplicated.
>               Last occurrence was retained.
> Comments:     <Parser> W: Field "Message-ID:" duplicated. Last occurrence was
>               retained.
> From:         David Green <dcgreen@PRO-HAROLD.CTS.COM>
> Subject:      Re: ProLine 2.0 Ships!
> Comments: To: info-apple@apple.com
> In-Reply-To:  mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
> 
> 
> The Newsgroups: line of every article is crossposted.  There are a
> dozen or so newsgroups that aren't in the standard bit.listserv list.
> 
> The "Message-ID: duplicated" message in the Comments: is troubling.

> I hope this is what I have to do for extra credit.
>Please credit me for both 161 and 267.
>   <THANKS>

--
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From: flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee)
Subject: Another gateway sprung up?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:10:24 GMT

psuvax1 has just junked many articles with headers of the form:
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.info-app,es.listserv.info-app
Date:         Mon, 20 Jul 1992 18:44:10 PDT
Reply-To:     Info-Apple@Apple.COM
Comments:     <Parser> W: Field "Resent-Message-ID:/Message-ID:" duplicated.
              Last occurrence was retained.
Comments:     <Parser> W: Field "Message-ID:" duplicated. Last occurrence was
              retained.
From:         David Green <dcgreen@PRO-HAROLD.CTS.COM>
Subject:      Re: ProLine 2.0 Ships!
Comments: To: info-apple@apple.com


The Newsgroups: line of every article is crossposted.  There are a
dozen or so newsgroups that aren't in the standard bit.listserv list.

The "Message-ID: duplicated" message in the Comments: is troubling.
--
From: ics$3662@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: bit.admin
Subject: <None>
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:24:44 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

summer school is finally over.
From: saul_sy@ginger.hnrc.tufts.edu (Saul Tannenbaum)
Newsgroups: bit.admin
Subject: Re: Another gateway sprung up?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:41:53 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <Brr11E.AGK@cs.psu.edu>, flee@cs.psu.edu (Felix Lee) writes:
> psuvax1 has just junked many articles with headers of the form:
> 
> Path: psuvax1!psuvm!frmop11!evalun11!PRO-HAROLD!DCGREEN
> Approved: NETNEWS@EVALUN11.bitnet gateway

And today we're seeing:

Relay-Version: VMS News - V6.0-3 14/03/90 VAX/VMS V5.4; site sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Path:sage.hnrc.tufts.edu!news.tufts.edu!jade.tufts.edu!bu.edu!decwrl!csus.edu!umn.edu!
 paperboy.micro.umn.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ukma!
 darwin.sura.net!Sirius.dfn.de!ira.uka.de!chx400!iris-dcp.es!power.ci.uv.es!evalun11!UCONNVM!SEWALL 
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.mac-l,es.listserv.mac-l    
Subject: Re: Laserwriter utility?
From: SEWALL@UCONNVM.BITNET (Murph Sewall)   
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:53:09 GMT    
Reply-To: "Macintosh News and Information" <MAC-L@YALEVM.BITNET>    
Organization: Connecticut's Business School
	  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	
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Comments: cc: Info-Mac <info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu>               
  
Is this an "official" gateway? Do people just start dumping stuff at the
bit groups at will? 

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