HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Back To Work Angst
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:28:26 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1993Jan8.180537.15981@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> callahan@biffvm.cs.jhu.edu (Paul Callahan) writes:

>On a relevant note: anybody else out ever had the feeling "I haven't had
>enough fun lately to justify doing any work."?  

every single (working) day

        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory 
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: parkhugj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Gregory J Parkhurst)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: communication
Date: 11 Jan 1993 04:27:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: parkhugj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Gregory J Parkhurst)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g222-28.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <9056@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> hagop@edison.seas.ucla.edu (Hagop D.  
Janoyan) writes:

> I've also tried to maintain contacts with many people I've never met before.
> (ie. pen-pals)  At first, they seem so interested in writing, but eventually
> they never write back, or worse, they write you two sentences after you've
> spilled your guts to them.

Or how about (purely hypothetical situation, of course):

You meet someone who seems to be in as much need of a close friend as yourself,  
and, after some tentative exchanges, you open up to that person.  You think  
you've finally run into someone who you can communicate with clearly and  
honestly, with no need to maintain labels or pretenses.  She listens without  
judging.  You spill ye olde bitter guts, and she doesn't run away...this is a  
first, something different.  In fact, it seems she (whoops, not so hypothetical  
anymore) is afraid of people running away from _her_, so you assure this person  
that you won't drift off; true friends are too rare to take for granted,  
especially when they're of the opposite sex and there isn't anything steamy  
going on.  [Non-hetero readers may adjust this as they see fit.]

BUT...as time goes on, you realize that you're always the one to make the phone  
call, and you always hear "I was just about to call you!" from the other end.   
It seems that conversations become progressively more one-sided - you talk, she  
doesn't respond any more than necessary.  You show her something you've written  
and ask her opinion, and get "Well, what do you _want_ me to say?" in return.   
You suggest that she's not being open with you, and hear "Of course I'm open,  
ask me anything you like."

Your best friend has turned into another disposable acquaintance, and you can't  
even be sure why (Something you did?  Something she did?  Act of God?), because  
open communication isn't there anymore.

Would you hold on to a friendship like this?  You still have someone to talk to  
(whether by writing, phone, or face-to-face), but try to talk to on a level  
that _matters_ and you may as well be alone.  Oh, and remember - you promised  
not to drift off...

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Greg Parkhurst         Nocturn@VR |           "Something clever"       
parkhugj@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu |                  -Someone clever
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: General Theory of Depression
Organization: OFSA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:55:25 GMT

<IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET>Jo (just me) sez:

>the worst part is, abuse and manipulation go hand in hand. you are manipulated
>into thinking that you deserve to get beat up, that when you get slapped

>each other in such a manner. part of the "problem," if you can believe
>it, in growing up in a supportive loving family, you aren't prepared for
>such a dysfunctional and irrational situation.
>
>that was my mistake, i fear. trying to deal with him as a rational adult.

Basically the intelligent approach, in my opinion, is to trust no one
until they warrant the trust. Regard no one as rational until they
prove to be such.
From: semenoff@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Semenoff)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: My New Year's Eve
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:39:25 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

In article <XIBO.93Jan6010833@ziggy.fido.econ.arizona.edu> xibo@fido.econ.arizona.edu (Mr. Coates) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.190304.14813@csi.com> mark@csi.com (Mark Kaplan) writes:
>#   Hey Bub, I don't think you understand what this group is all about.  It
<....>
>Well first of all, I hate fratboys & soregirls.  The club was full
>of teenydoomers, persons in black, angstful souls all.

Funny I've never noticed that connection between angst and clothing
fashion. 
So is there a dress code for this group, too ?

-Rob
--
From: llama@tramp.cc.utexas.edu (sine nomine)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: My New Year's Eve
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:02:30 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

philip marlowe (pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca) wrote:

: [quoting orion:]
: > Decide to socialize, drive next to the single dance club in the area,
: > stop my car. I realize if I go in, I am committing myself...
: > I know people who work there, and they will be amazed if I show up without 
: > somebody dragging me through the door.
: 
:  "Amazed"? At what? "Oh, there's Marshall, and he's here without a 
: date...better start throwing stones at him!"

i think you misread. i read it more like they'd be saying "oh my god,
it must be the end times, look, he came in under his own power,
unforced."

i hate this sort of thing; i have a similar situation at work. since
the office party where i discovred that i once again look good in a
miniskirt, i've been wearing short skirts to work now and then. the
only problem is this woman (and she's otherwise cool and i like her)
who insists on makinng a big deal of it, saying "oooo, deb's got on a
short skirt. get it, girlfriend!" it embarrasses me to have my
presence pointed out, sometimes enough to keep me from doing things
because i don't feel like hearing this kind of bullshit from my
friends.

:  Do you think that you're the only one who's ever been alone? Who's ever 
: been down? Who's ever had a depression New Year's? The trick isn't to 
: WALLOW in your angst -- alt.angst, to me, isn't a place for such 
: self-indulgence, but rather for a purging. Do you like your pain? Sure 
: sounds like it...and unless you want it to be your constant companion, 
: I'd suggest you try to deal with it before IT starts to deal with YOU.

good advice, but bear in mind that wallowing is a part of the healing
process. it's only a problem when you try to substitute it for the
entire process.

--
sine | deb
"nobody don't dance on the edge of the dark we've got the radio on
and it feels like love but it don't mean a lot, feels like love but
it's all that we got" -- psychedelic furs
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.security.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: internet firewall: packet selecting/forwarding
Keywords: security, internet, firewall, packet, filter
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:58:11 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1993Jan2.091216.10624@corp.telecom.co.nz>, chuck@corp.telecom.co.nz (Chuck Zheng) writes:
| Hello,
| 
| I am interested in building a internet firewall to restrict un-authorised 
| (potential) access to my network.  The resources I have are sun3 sun4 and pcs.
| Can anybody tell me how to implement it?  

  If you really want security, disable packet forwarding completely and
have people log into the firewall to use ftp and telnet. Allowing
internet packets on your local network is simple and useful, but not
safe.

  If you have any packets forwarded at all you are not choosing safe vs
unsafe, but only which risks you take.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    Keyboard controller has been disabled, press F1 to continue.
From: gyro@kestrel.edu (Scott L. Burson)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
Subject: SIGTSTP -> SIGKILL
Keywords: SunOS, signal
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:21:12 GMT
Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA


Under certain circumstances, I have discovered, an attempt to send a
process SIGTSTP -- by either the process itself or by another process
-- results in it being sent a SIGKILL instead.  (This is in SunOS
4.1.3.)  I have not been able to figure out why this is happening.  I
thought at first it might have had something to do with the fact that
the process receiving the signal is a session leader, but forking
another process to serve as session leader didn't change the behavior.
Nor can I find anything about it in the documentation.

Are there any SunOS wizards listening who can tell me why this is
happening and how I can prevent it?  All leads appreciated --

Thanks!
  Scott
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: floppy drive in Sun 3?
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:21:07 GMT

>I was reading last night and today about a built in floppy drive
>controller on the Sun 3 CPU.

"the" Sun 3 CPU?  The 3/80 is the only one to my knowledge that has one.  It
takes the same drives as the Sun4c's.
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Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
Subject: Reading/writing VAX backup
From: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (Jens Petersohn)
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:18:55 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is anyone out there aware of a UNIX utility that allows one to read/write
VAX backup tapes/files?

Jens


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| Jens Petersohn                    | Internet: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu |
| Dept. of Physics and Astronomy    |           jkp@uoft02.utoledo.edu      |
| Ritter Observatory                |                                       |
| University of Toledo              | Bitnet:   jkp@uoft02                  |
| 2801 W. Bancroft                  |                                       |
| Toledo, OH 43606                  | BellNet:  (419) 537-2589              |
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From: fuer@nessie.gud.siemens.co.at (Gerhard Fuernkranz)
Subject: Re: internet firewall: packet selecting/forwarding
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:08:15 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Chuck Zheng (chuck@corp.telecom.co.nz) wrote:
: Hello,
: 
: I am interested in building a internet firewall to restrict un-authorised 
: (potential) access to my network.  The resources I have are sun3 sun4 and pcs.
: Can anybody tell me how to implement it?  

Once I have written an IP access list module for SVR4/386.
It is a streams module, that will be autopushed on /dev/ip and
provides filtering of incoming and outgoing IP packets based on
source/destination addresses and port numbers.
Filtering is done by a filter program, that will be loaded down
into the kernel and interpreted by the access list streams module.
I believe, that it would be easy to port it to the new SVR4 based
Solaris.

When anyone is interrested, I will make the sources available.

g.f.

--
Gerhard Fuernkranz		SIEMENS Austria Corp.
Email: fuer@siemens.co.at	Gudrunstr. 11
Phone: +43-1-60171-5716		A-1100 Wien
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From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.apps,alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Re: OW 3.1 / olwm stacking bug?
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:10:23 GMT
Followup-To: alt.sys.sun
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

In <18303@autodesk.COM> I wrote:
> 	There appears to be a bug where a dialog can get buried
> under its parent window when the parent window is raised.  This
> seems only to happen with the OW 3.1 version of olwm.  If I use
> olwm off of a 4.1.X machine, and remote display it to the SunOS
> 5.X machine (Solaris 2.X / OW 3.1 server), I don't see this behavior.


	bzzt!  Sun changed Something!!!

	from the olwm man page (OW 3.0)

     KeepTransientsAbove (boolean)
          Specifies whether olwm should attempt to keep transient
          windows above their owner window.  Default value: true.

	and from the olwm man page (OW 3.1)

     KeepTransientsAbove (boolean)
          Specifies whether olwm should attempt to keep transient
          windows  above  their  owner  window.   Default  value:
          false.

	Why would they have changed that?!  Anyways, that seems
to solve it.

				Daniel

-- 
 dansmith@autodesk.com       daniel@world.std.com       dansmith@well.sf.ca.us
        Daniel Smith, Autodesk, Sausalito, California, (415) 332-2344 x 2580
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,ba.windows.x
Subject: Anybody built X11R4 under SunOS 4.1.3?
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:13:41 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


I can't get the server to run.  Sys
Getting interface connection: operation not supported on socket

Any clues?
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can talk all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
From: magnin@tls-cs.cert.fr (Michel Magnin)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
Subject: Looking for a Sun386i gcc
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:25:15 GMT
Organization: CERT, CS Dpt. Toulouse, France



	
 Hello everybody!

  I'm in trouble while compiling gcc on a Sun 386i: cc compiler (from Sun) is
looping while compiling libgcc. an executable copy of a gcc (any version)
for that machine would be a great help.

Thanks in advance for any pointer.

"Bonne annee 1993"

Michel Magnin		magnin@cert.fr
CERT
2, Av edouard Belin
31000 Toulouse
France
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
Subject: Using DEC RZ56 on SPARCserver
From: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (Jens Petersohn)
Date: 9 Jan 93 10:53:01 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.sun.hardware ]
[ Author was Jens Petersohn ]
[ Posted on 9 Jan 93 10:51:32 EST ]

Has anyone ever used a RZ56 SCSI hard drive on a Sun SPARCserver 4/400 before?
Can it be done? Or is the hardware sufficently different that it won't work
with the SD driver? (Or for that mater, are they plug compatible?)

If it is possible, can anyone suggest format parameters for the drive?
I certainly don't seem to be able to squeeze that information out of the
VAX the drive is connected to at the moment.

Also, has anyone ever suceeded matching VAX/VME with SUN/VME?

Thanks in advance,

Jens

+-----------------------------------+---------------------------------------+
| Jens Petersohn                    | Internet: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu |
| Dept. of Physics and Astronomy    |           jkp@uoft02.utoledo.edu      |
| Ritter Observatory                |                                       |
| University of Toledo              | Bitnet:   jkp@uoft02                  |
| 2801 W. Bancroft                  |                                       |
| Toledo, OH 43606                  | BellNet:  (419) 537-2589              |
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From: cc_s441@ceres (John Salmon)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.security.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: internet firewall: packet selecting/forwarding
Date: 4 Jan 1993 11:43:51 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) writes:
: In article <1993Jan2.091216.10624@corp.telecom.co.nz> chuck@corp.telecom.co.nz (Chuck Zheng) writes:
:    I am interested in building a internet firewall to restrict
:    un-authorised (potential) access to my network.  The resources I
:    have are sun3 sun4 and pcs.  Can anybody tell me how to implement
:    it?  ...  I would like to learn from your experience (if any)
:    dealing with internet security.
: 
: First, read ftp.greatcircle.com:pub/firewalls/pkt_filtering.ps.Z and
: pub/archive/firewalls.Z, which is a discussion that includes pointers
: to other related papers.  Then write to majordomo@greatcircle.com,
: asking to be added to the Firewalls mailing list.
: --
: Bob Sutterfield, Morning Star Technologies            +1 614 451 1883
: 1760 Zollinger Rd, Columbus Ohio USA, 43221           +1 800 558 7827
: bob@MorningStar.Com                                   +1 614 459 5054 (FAX)

--
John Salmon
Kingston University Computing Services
(cc_s441@kingston.ac.uk)
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From: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Problem with Sparc Printer.
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:10:36 GMT
Reply-To: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Center for Space Research Imaging Lab, University of Texas at Austin
Originator: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu


Hello everyone.  I am experiencing a very frustrating problem with our
Sparc Printer.  Everything was peachy until yesterday afternoon when 
suddenly, I started getting the error:

unable to print:  fatal printer error

I checked the power cord, cable connections, toner, paper cartridge, daemons, 
drivers, the kitchen sink, etc., but nothing helps the situation.  It was
suggested that perhaps Newsprint and/or the driver(s) were corrupted, so
I reinstalled the entire thing from scratch, and it still doesn't work.
Someone suggested that I change a line in /etc/printcap from:

	:lp=/dev/lpvi0:\

to
	:lp=/dev/console:\

I tried "lp /.login" and it was alleged that it would dump to console.  
This generated the same fatal printer error.  We don't have a support
contract, and they want $150 an hour to check this thing, so I would
like to make sure it's not something trivial.  The support person at
Sun did suggest that the printer is "too stupid to generate that error
message" and a software driver problem is the likely cause.  

Please reply by e-mail, and I will post a summary if anyone requests
it.  Thanks in advance.


-- 
Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
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From: dansmith@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: OW 3.1 / olwm stacking bug?
Summary: Solaris 2.1 / OW 3.1 olwm bug
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:41:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.sys.sun
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA



	There appears to be a bug where a dialog can get buried
under its parent window when the parent window is raised.  This
seems only to happen with the OW 3.1 version of olwm.  If I use
olwm off of a 4.1.X machine, and remote display it to the SunOS
5.X machine (Solaris 2.X / OW 3.1 server), I don't see this behavior.

	Anyone else experience this?  Know of a workaround or patch?

				Daniel
-- 
 dansmith@autodesk.com       daniel@world.std.com       dansmith@well.sf.ca.us
        Daniel Smith, Autodesk, Sausalito, California, (415) 332-2344 x 2580
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Date: Mon,  4 Jan 1993 19:30:37 -0500 
From: "Derrick J. Brashear" <db74+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: floppy drive in Sun 3?

I was reading last night and today about a built in floppy drive
controller on the Sun 3 CPU. Does anyone know anything about this? What
type of drive can be used with this? How does it work?

-D
<db74@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun,comp.security.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards
From: fuer@nessie.gud.siemens.co.at (Gerhard Fuernkranz)
Subject: Re: internet firewall: packet selecting/forwarding
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:00:27 GMT
Organization: SIEMENS Austria Corp., A-1100 Wien, Gudrunstr. 11
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I (fuer@nessie.gud.siemens.co.at) wrote:
:
: When anyone is interrested, I will make the sources available.
: 

I got a couple of mails from people, who told me, that
they are interrested.
Unfortenately I have not written any doc at all.
Give me a few days to write a README file and a
configuration file example - then I pill post it to alt.sources.

g.f.

--
Gerhard Fuernkranz		SIEMENS Austria Corp.
Email: fuer@siemens.co.at	Gudrunstr. 11
Phone: +43-1-60171-5716		A-1100 Wien
Newsgroups: alt.sys.sun
From: sd7047787@v9000 (SD7047787)
Subject: Questions on Sun ...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:46:00 GMT

Hi.
I have a few questions on Sun that need help as soon as possible.... so could 
some kind souls out there please help me:

Problem Description:
I am currently attached to a local MNC company. THe ppl there have just bought 
a few sun work stations. I am now given the task to maintain the Sun stations. 
We have total of 4 stations with one of them as the server and one IBM pc using 
Pc-NFS ethernet to communicate with the Sun. 

Questions:
1. What is the difference between communication using an ethernet and that of a 
serial link? Is it faster? Can I perform windows functions using the IBM pc 
thru' ethernet?
2. Any PD utilities that I should load into the server or client stations to 
increase the user freindliness?
3. I had run pcnfs on ibm pc and a software call quickmouse. The 2 software 
seem to cause an error for "No NIS server found/defined". Anyone can help me to 
explain why?
4. The shell that I presently running does not have the essential feature of 
remembering the previous commands typed in the shell. How should I make the 
shell able to remember the commands entered before?

I am no experience at all in being a system administrator. And I am not familar 
with Sun at all. I would really appreciate any form of suggestions/help. Thanx 
a million!

PS. The sun os is version 4.1.1. Most common usage is for CAD program. We are 
running CADKEY right over at the Sun. Anyone familiar with CADKEy in Sun?

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