From: areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: Re: Married With Children...  New life?
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:31:00 GMT
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In article <1992Sep30.134443.19536@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes...
>areid@mary.fordham.edu (Darin Reid) writes:
> 
>>dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes...
> >>I have found it absolutely and totally HORRIBLE!
> >>For one thing the kid can't even act at ALL, and everything
> >>they have done with him has been 100% totally UNFUNNY.  
> 
> >Most ( i say most ) kids on TV "act" terrible!  No pun intended :)
> 
>Then they can be nothing but BAD.  This one is EXCRUCIATINGLY bad!
> 
> >>HOW could anything related to that kid be "bright"?  Everything about him 
> >>is a "dark" and unwelcome detraction from *real* MWC content that would
> >>normally be FUNNY.
> 
> >Say MWC is a funny, 
> 
>DAMN funny!  :->
> 
> >but lets face it, dark show!  
> 
>It is not THAT "dark", but I can understand your point.
> 
> >Their humor is based on everything bad and disgusting in the world.
> 
>Let's face it, the world *IS* "bad and disgusting" !!  <heh>
> 
>Actually, to ME there is NOTHING more disgusting than the endless 
>number of "wholesome family" shows that pollute the network schedules.

For me too..., one of the reasons I like MWC _and_ The Simpsons (half 
wholesome) *grin*

> 
> >>Hmmm...  Could you be referring to the usual JOKES??
> >>That is what the show is all about!  Witty jabs and the like.
> 
> >Witty Jabs are fun for five years, after six I expect some character 
> >development!  
> 
>Compare the last few seasons to the FIRST.  If you can't see a VAST
>amount of "character development", then I don't know what to tell you.
> 
> >These guys have become cardboard cutouts of the old Bundies.
> 
>The "old Bundys" (first season) where NOT the Bundys!  As with most shows, 
>it took a while for them to "find" the true characters.  Once they did, it 
>was fantastic!!

All I can say is: I really don't agree.

> >>Ugh!!   Are you sure you "get" this show?  :->
> >>Almost all of that was totally repulsive and completely WRONG.
> 
> >I get the show, I just think it's grown old.  
> 
>Well, then perhaps it is time to move on.  Right now they are RUINING
>the program for all the rest of us *real* FANS who love the show!

I'm sorry I want a little change, guess I'm not a *real* fan.
Hmmm... I want inter-league play (baseball)... ooops goes against the grain,
Guess I'm not a real fan!

> 
>"grow"??   Now is the time for them to be FUNNY, as usual.   This new awful 
>kid is NOT funny even in the slightest!  Therefore it CANNOT be at all good.

What was that about the Bundys finding their true characters and flavor later?
Why don't you give the kid a chance (more than two shows) to fit in?

> 
> >Can you imagine a Network basing a show on a high school and staying 
> >there for seven years!!!  No!  Sooner or later they'd grow, graduate 
> >and become adults.  
> 
>Good for them, but we are NOT talking about BH 90210 here.

I *wasn't* talking about them!  I wasn't even thinking about that, I was 
thinking Parker Lewis and a Different World (Colleg of course).  I
hate that F*UCKING 90210!

> 
> >Its time for the Bundys to grow.  
> 
>What do you mean "grow"??   Why should it be "time" for them to 
>do *anything* other than being the funniest show on television?!
>"growth" does not sound particularly FUNNY to me!

If a show is to survive it must change, or it can voluntarily end, like
The Cosby Show or Family Ties.  Take a look at all of the long running 
shows (classic and new) were they all the same for their entire runs?
> 
> >They can still (of course)dish out the insults,remarks, gestures, and 
> >general stupid activities, but in the end they've gotta do something 
> >different than has bee done before.  If not then cancel the show.
> 
>NO, if YOU are "bored" then just stop watching!  DON'T ask for the show to 
>be turned into some "normal" disgusting family type crap with a new kid.

Go back and reread that paragraph!  I didn't say I wanted that family crap!
I said the kid gives them a chance to do something *different*
> 
> >Say it seems like they're parodying themselves.  
> 
>Hmmm... "parody" on MWC.  No, say it ain't so!  :->

A parody of a parody is not funny to me
> 
> >How many "bud is sex deprived", "
>He IS.
> 
> >Al is a shoe salesman", 
>That's what he IS!
> 
> >"Peg is lazy",
>And she isn't?!
> 
> >"Kelly is stupid" jokes can a show make seasons out of?
> 
>As many as they want, as long as they are FUNNY!  (and they ALWAYS are!!)

I guess that is ther gist of our disagreement, I don't think they are...
At least 10 of my (vast horde :-) friends have said to me: "MWC is getting 
stupid" or "MWC is getting boring" or "MWC is just not as funny as when it 
first came on"

> 
> >I _don't_ think the Bundys should ever be like that, but seven 
> >gives them a chance to "rally round the flag" every once in a while.

>Ugh... aka it gives them a chance to be "boring and unfunny", which is 
>hardly something that should be on the show even "once in a while" !!
>That plus the fact this kid is TERRIBLE and incapable of delivering
>a line without making your skin crawl is hardly a reason to celebrate.

First off I said  I want the Bundys to stay as they are.  Second (nothing to
do with the Bundys or MWC), why do you feel being family like has to be 
unfunny!?!?!?

The aformentioned Cosby and Family Ties are only two of the "Family Sitcoms" 
that are still funny to me today ( and to a _hell_ of a lot of other people.)

> 
>-{ Dean Adams }-
> 

- Darin
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