HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Angels and Pinheads
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:25:21 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <tgxz+fn@rpi.edu>, kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:
>  As for your alleged "great of of grief", this seems to be based on the 
> doctrine of Papal Infallibility, one of the most misunderstood doctrines of
> the Catholic Church. Even most Catholics aren't entirely clear about it. 
> Papal infallibility does _not_ mean that every word the Pope speaks is 
> immutable Church doctrine. It only applies to certain statements which the 
> Pope makes _ex cathedra_ ("from the chair"). These statements are, by Church
> doctrine, the direct Word of God spoken through the Pope.

The doctrine of papal infallibility wasn't formalized till the First
Vatican Council, in 1870.  It was quite controversial even then.

> As far as I remember, the most
> recent _ex cathedra_ statement made by a Pope was sometime in the sixteenth 
> century, and concerned some obscure point about the divinity of Mary or the 
> saints or something of that nature (I may be mistaken here; anyone who had 
> a more comprehensive church history class is welcome to correct me on this).

Pope Pius XII issued an ex cathedra proclamation on the assumption of Mary
in 1950.  I don't know if there are any more recent ones.

>  Ordinary statements made by a previous Pope may be revoked, reversed or 
> even condemned by a subsequent Pope without greatly rocking the boat of the
> Church. For instance, when Pope John Paul II admitted in the early 80's that
> Galileo had been right after all, there was no great of of grief.

They can certainly be revoked with less pain, but hardly none at all --
or it wouldn't have taken that many hundreds of years for the reversal.
Popes don't reverse their predecessors for the same reason that the
Supreme Court rarely reverses itself -- such actions tend to sow doubt
and confusion in the ranks.  (There's even a name for that doctrine in
the case of the Court:  stare decisis, the decision stands.  (Right,
Terry and Ted?))
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Arrest on the net
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: alt.folklore.urban
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:46:48 GMT

klaus@diku.dk (Klaus Ole Kristiansen) writes:
: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: 
: >I don't remember the details, but I recall them being different from
: >what you posted.
: 
: How's that for a new motto?

Well, we should have one sooner or later. That is my studied contribution.

Bill
From: C558172@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Publishers Clearing-House UL?
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:43:18 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri

In article <1992Oct17.002136.325@unet.net.com>
jrs@zippy.unet.com (John Switzer Frame 3.0) writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Oct9.142225.9172@javelin.sim.es.com> gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler) writes:
>>This morning, the guy I car-pool with told me a story that smells like
>>an UL.  A bag of unopened Publishers Clearing-House Sweepstakes entries was
>>found illegally dumped.  All the entries had one thing in common.  They didn't
>>order any magazines.  He said he saw it on the news, but i'm still suspicious.
>>Can anyone prove or debunk this one?
>will be thrown into the final selection bin.
>
>This is also how some other contests are done - for example, if your local
>radio station asks you to send in a postcard for a random drawing, they might
>just keep only a handful out of each day's mail. All this does is disqualify
>some people earlier than some others; however, it doesn't alter the overall
>probabilities of your card being chosen. (does it? probability was never
>my strong suit)
>
Yes it does. The probability of your card being choosen would then depend
first on how many cards were recieved on the same day and second on how
many were in the final drawing. Not only would different cards have different
probabilities depending on the day they were recieved, but the final prob-
ability would also be different.
--Shannon
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:25654 soc.women:17709
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.women
Subject: Re: Women in groups
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:36:16 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:

] In article <1992Oct9.003931.6772@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, andrewb@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Andrew Bevin) writes:
] > I have heard that if woman live in group's that their menstrual cycles
] > start to sync with each other.

Based upon my time dealing with groups of
women who live together in the various
collective living arrangements....

Yes, they do start to cycle together...

Worse Yet, those of us males prone to
cycle with the woman we are involved with
also get messed up by all this....

this was a recent discussion here at the castle.

] The usual explanation is pheromones.  There is experimental evidence
] for pheromones emitted in synchrony with the menstrual cycle.  I recall
] reading in Science News (a very reputable science digest publication)
] of a study where men who wore masks smeared with vaginal secretions
] were asked to rate the attractiveness of various women.  (They were told
] that the masks were so that the women wouldn't respond to their own
] facial expresssion.)  Anyway, those men wearing masks annointed with
] secretions from ovulating women tended to rate all of the women as
] more attractive.

any SciData on why Men Join the Loop?

ciao
drieux



-- 
Modern Day Problems:
In any case, don't give up, just type slower :-).
Chimo
Bob.
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:25716 rec.arts.startrek.misc:10377
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kirk VS Picard (was "Lost In Space" was better)
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:59:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Oct14.215934.1512
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Oct14.171625.14125@julian.uwo.ca> jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.232238.11517@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct9.215047.9780@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Ted "Was James T. Kirk's middle name 'Terry'?" Frank
>>>
>>>Can't be.  His middle initial is 'R' as seen in the pilot episode 
>>>The R is for Roy.  James Roy Kirk.  In a later episode, Nomad gets 
>>
>>Haven't seen either the original or the reportedly shorter split version of
>>EaF recently, but it's James T for Tiberius Kirk.
>>
> Actually, I believe the T stood for Taffeta; ie - James Taffeta Kirk.

Yes, and James is actually an acronym for
	Jeremy Artemus Mortimer Elegius Samuel.

Or at least, according to "Allan Brady's Unauthorized Star Trek Compendium",
by R. Petrie.



Jonathan "my name's not Rosebud" Quist
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: styri@hal.nta.no (Haakon Styri)
Subject: Re: Fine Art {was: A Goofy Question was Re: Flavored Condoms (was: Re: Stupid cop tricks)}
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 08:25:36 GMT

In article <6OCT199209043007@jane.uh.edu>, vpaf5@jane.uh.edu writes:
>
> Isn't it a little *sick* that one dog (Goofy) owns another dog (Pluto)?

What? Isn't Pluto owned by a _mouse_?

---
YuNoHoo
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: What's lutfisk? + new UL (was Re: Liz Claiborne/Oprah Winfrey UL)
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:19:11 GMT

Stupid question:  what in Kibo's name is lutefisk?


ObUL:  My elementary school (New Kensington, PA, US) had flinky red playground
       balls that for some reason came sprinkled with a white powder.  The
       UL is that some kid was hit in the face with one of these balls,
       somehow causing some of the evil powder to enter the kid's eye.  The
       claim was that the kid's eye had to be removed to clean out the stuff
       and reinserted.

"Musta been Pu from the bombs right over in the Allegheny."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Subject: Accuracy/Precision, just a simple correction
Reply-To: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA 
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:11:32 GMT

No system of measuring (be it metric or other) is any more accurate then  
any other.  Accuracy is only affected by the unit involved in the  
measurement.  If I measure an item using a ruler capable of measuring in  
millionths of an inch, I will get a more accurate measurement then if I  
use a ruler that only measures in millimeters.  Likewise I will get a more  
accurate result from a millimeter ruler then I will from ruler marked of  
in inches.  

To say that metric is more accurate/precise then english is a falicy.

Blackplague
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: fielden@spot.Colorado.EDU (j.a. fielden)
Subject: Re: nail in Coca-Cola
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:49:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.091040.3442@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>In article <Bvq0oA.8En@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>>
>>I have heard a UL in several places that someone left a nail in some
>>Coke overnight and it disintegrated, since the Coke is so acidic (or
>>whatever). Does anyone know the source of this UL? (Unless, of course,
>>it's true.)
>
>I seem to remember that Coke contains Phosphoric Acid, which is the same
>chemical dentists use to etch your teeth before bonding on resin-based bonded
>surfaces, etc.
>
>cj "four out of five dentists is 80%" l

 In fact my old orthodontist told a story where he ran out of the
acid they use to etch the teeth before they attach the brackets and 
used some coca-cola instead. I don't vouch for the truth of the
story only that he did indeeed tell me this.

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu (vance kochenderfer)
Subject: Re: Canadian pennies
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 00:37:35 GMT

In article <TRIF.92Oct10210725@bike.rad.washington.edu> trif@bike.rad.washington.edu (To Run In Fear) writes:
>
>Ever wonder what happened to all those Susan B. Anthony dollars and 2 dollar
>bills?  They got shipped overseas to be used by people serving in the military.
>My mother teaches in one of the DoD schools in Germany, and every time she
>comes back for a visit, she has a few in her wallet, and it really confuses
>sales clerks when she tries to pay for stuff with them.  They have also done
>away with pennies except at the post office (as of the last time I was there).
>
     They are also available at your friendly neighborhood bank (in the US,
that is).  My father gets $2 bills all the time and uses them when purchasing
items.  The reaction is either disbelief that the money is real, or joy
at such a numismatic discovery.  He also marks them to see if he can get
them back at the bank.

ObUL: The Secret Service will show up at my house and haul my father away
for this.

Vance "costing the net hundreds, if not thousands, of $2 bills" Kochenderfer
Virginia Tech                     |         "Frink!"
vkochend@nyx.cs.du.edu            |           -Rudolpho the Lemur
From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Pi in the sky
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:59:29 GMT
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.

In article <Bvto0L.3q6@unx.sas.com> sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>ObUL:  In the 1960s, the California legislature passed a law setting 
>the value of pi as the ratio of a circle's circumference to its 
>diameter, but Governor Reagan vetoed it.  

I think it conflicted with previous policy against ratiocination
in California.   :-)

-mm-
-- 
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Bus. Phone: 603 429 2223    Home: 603 424 8129     BIX: mmallett
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Subject: Re: Radar Cars (was: stupid cop tricks & t)
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 00:52:20 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Oct9.182042.26312@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.174649.171@nntp.nta.no>, styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo) writes...
>>Funniest speed speed trap (?) I've seen was a radar connected to a sign
>>that lit up the text "SLOW DOWN!" whenever somebody passed too fast.

These occur in Europe and Great Britain.  Usually when you are approaching 
a dangerous bend at greater than the safe speed.

Perhaps not as amusing when viewed in that light.

Derek "He who laughs last... didn't get the joke " Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne. -- derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz --  Fujitsu/ICL New Zealand -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
From: j_manes@vger.nsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Re:ally bad car puns
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:08:46 EDT
Distribution: na

In article <joslin.718477328@c0223.ae.ge.com>, joslin_paul@ae.ge.com writes:
> 
> Bad Car Pun:  A SOAF (sister of a friend) once named her second car
> placenta. (No, it wasn't a previa).  Seems she had named her first car
> Bertha, so the second one must have been after Bertha.
  
    That's so bad it's wonderful; I wish I'd thought of it.
 
     HOwever, I will offer this for your perusal:  My Fiat (always broken,
always needs attention) is named FIATSCO.
 
Jean Manes          |    Why are you guys skewing my curve???

                   

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: glover@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric Glover)
Subject: Re: Kirk VS Picard (was "Lost In Space" was better)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:09:26 GMT

In article <7036@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>In article <1992Oct05.212515.27930@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

>
>Now what we need is a politician more like Scotty -- A miracle worker!
>
>Terry "Beam me Up/Out/In Scotty!" Wood

We had a kindly old gentleman who worked miracles for 8 years, his
name was Ronald Reagan.

Kirk: "I need warpspeed now or we're all dead"
Ron:  "Well, there you go again..."
:).
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca (John Fleming)
Subject: Re: cash crop
Reply-To: std_fleming@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:07:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.153859.13623@ulysses.att.com>, tom@ulysses.att.com (Tom Smith) writes:
>Consider the following, from another newsgroup:
>
>> Recall the Newsweek cover from about four/five years ago:  "NC's biggest
>> cash crop" showing the new American gothic of paramilitary pot growers.
>
>I had recently heard this from another source; hard to believe, considering
>the incredible amount of tobacco grown in NC.  However, I've also heard
>this about other states: Indiana for one, and CALIFORNIA for another!
>
>Other states (provinces, etc.)?
>              ^^^^^^^^^
>Also, how would one do the accounting to make such a claim?
>
>Tom Smith.
>tom@ulysses.att.com

  The Okanagan region of British Columbia, "officially" an orchard area, is
supposed to be full of pot growers.  I have only heard this from fellow
Albertans, however, so it may be another case of "put down neighbouring
provinces any way you can!" syndrome.  We do a lot of that kind of thing
here...unfortunately. 

                                       -John Fleming (STD_FLEMING@HG.ULETH.CA)
                                        Lethbridge, Alberta, CANADA
                                        "Vote NO to the Charlottetown Accord!"

                                   
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght)
Subject: aluminum siding
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:21:15 GMT

Heres an old Urban Legend I have not seen posted here on the list yet...
Maybe it was before I started reading it.  A friend of a friend just
reminded me of this one this past weekend.

Old story goes... friend of a friend (of course) knows this guy who
collects alluminum for recycling and makes pretty good money at it.  One
day the neighbors got nice new aluminum siding on there house.  They went
away for the weekend and the guy took all the aluminum off there house
and sold it for recycling.         

It has been a while since I last heard this one, is this a popular one?

Jim

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Citecheck Hell)
Subject: Re: "Gang Bang" series
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:59:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.214106.16364@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>steveb@meaddata.com (Steve Brooke) writes:
>: 
>: Here's the Boston Globe article published without permission.  The article is
>: dated May 17, 1992.
>: 
>:               Home-video sex sells; unwilling stars cry foul
>:                        By Judith Gaines, Globe Staff
>: 
>: 
>Thank you, Steve. At last we have some documentation. Note, however, that
>the circumstances are completely different from the UL - as well as what
>was reported by our intrepid anti-sex Dworkin.

Also note an important distinction -- the abusive relationships existed
both previously and subsequent to the making of the videos.

The videos are an extension of the abusive relationship, rather than a
cause of it.

(Also note that the women had legal recourse but chose not to take it.)

>I still find it hard to believe that any distributor would sell those
>video tapes without signed releases. I agree that they could be coerced,
>but that makes them invalid.

Agreed.  
-- 
ted frank | thf2@midway.uchicago.edu 
also at quibeaux@uchicago.edu | standard disclaimers
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: "Normal" body temperature
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:42:57 GMT

mcirvin@scws1.harvard.edu  writes:
> dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller) writes:
...
> Being a US citizen, I was a Fahrenheit chauvinist for "daily use" type
> applications (0F and 100F are more or less the extreme limits of coldness
> and hotness on the US east coast from DC to Boston,  with the hot end 
> somewhat more common around DC) until some Canadians pointed out to
> me that in Celsius, ten-degree increments correspond roughly to major
> subjective categories of temperature.  Zero is quite cold; 10C is cool;
> 20C is comfortably warm; 30C and above is hot.  I use this
> as a mnemonic when interpreting Celsius temperatures now.  It makes
> a certain kind of practical sense. 
> -- 
> Matt McIrvin, posting nonsense again

Here in Nebraska, 30 C is "Summer warm" and 40 C is "Hot".  Of course, with
our wonderful humidity and subsonic winds, it all becomes rather meaningless.
Actually, during temperature extremes, most Nebraskans try to stay indoors.  I
would wager that Nebraska has higher residential energy usage than anywhere in
the entire U.S.

Why is Nebraska so windy?  Because Iowa sucks. :)  (I love Iowa by the way,
and one of these days will try to participate in RAGBRAI)

Torsten at Omaha (Buy the Big "O"  -  official city economic campaign) 
				(really!)
From: joslin_paul@ae.ge.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re:ally bad car puns
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:02:08 GMT
Reply-To: joslin_paul@ae.ge.com
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Aircraft Engines
Originator: news@c0228.ae.ge.com

twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:

>BTW, isn't the GM hotshot electric car called the Impact?

Pontiac has a plastic concept car called the Salsa.  Presumably, it
indicates what you'll look like after an accident.

Bad Car Pun:  A SOAF (sister of a friend) once named her second car
placenta. (No, it wasn't a previa).  Seems she had named her first car
Bertha, so the second one must have been after Bertha.

OBscurePun: Motor Trend once wrote about a guy who named his car Tazio. 
Why? It was a new volare.


Paul "Can't believe I'm posting this with my real name." Joslin

-- 
     Paul R. Joslin     | I have come to the conclusion that one
joslin@c0223.ae.ge.com  | useless man is called a "disgrace", that
   +1 513 583 3537      | two are called a "law firm", and that
                        | three or more become a "Congress".
From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: late talkers
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:08:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

stern6@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Stern) writes:

> Some great (British?) poet/author (unnamed) did not speak until the age
> of 12, at which point he shocked his family by mentioning at dinner that
> "The meat seems overdone." When pressed as to why he had never previously
> spoken, the lad replied "I never had much to say."

I've heard this legend several times about several people (including
Einstein and Newton).  I also once heard the story related with
Churchill as the late talker.

--Scott "or was it Disraeli?" Cromar

ObUL:  Churchill's first words were "In the morning I'll be sober, and
you'll still be overdone."
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: nail in Coca-Cola
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:15:32 GMT

In article <Bvq0oA.8En@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)  
writes:
> 
> I have heard a UL in several places that someone left a nail in some
> Coke overnight and it disintegrated, since the Coke is so acidic (or
> whatever). Does anyone know the source of this UL? (Unless, of course,
> it's true.)
> -- 
Well, I've heard it will remove rust. Also heard that it will remove the  
paint from your car if you spill some on it (the car, that is).

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Oranjelo and the severed dogs head