From: v092mbjm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (THE BILGERAT)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: underground???     CC:
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:20:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <Iefh=Ve00WBKE_OJtW@andrew.cmu.edu>, ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Sokhyon Pak) writes...
> 
>   I know I'm new to this board, but it seems like everyone is into
>poppy "industrial" thinking cool to put down TRENT REZNOR.  but I don't
>see anyone talking about bands like:  MALHAVOC, DESPERATION, VAMPIRE
>RODENTS, MACHINERY STUFF: AND ONe, SNOG, SWAMP TERRORIST, OOMPH1.... or
>not even about ZOTH OMMOG bands,.... is WAX TRAX and domestic major
>labels all that you guys listen to?what about ARMAGEDDON DILDOS? DANCE
>TO TRANCE, AIRCRASH BUREAU, INFLUID? LEATHERSTRIP? the infamous
>LEATHERSTRIP? KLUTE? or even BORIS MIKULIC?  THERE's so much more to
>industrial than NIN, MINISTRY, FRONT242, WAX TRAX, AND SKINNY PUPPY. 
>Does anyone REALLY listen to INDUSTRIAL out there? or do you like
>MINSTRY and SKINNY PUPPY?  I like them too, but there's so much
>more.....  


Well, I agree with you a bit. Being from the Buffalo area and thanx to 
places like the SCRAPYARD, got to see some reall good shows for a few bux
Saw The Dwarves, WAX, SuperSucker, Mule... for 2 bux on one night.
Saw Godflesh for 3 bux and they played for almost 2.5 hours! (Awesome
show) It was at this show I ran into James Cavaluzzo from malhavoc who happens
to be the lead singer and producer of all material. I found out about the 
record release party held at the Opera House in Toronto.. Naturally it was
this or attend a goddamn lousy GNR/Metallica/faith no more show. Thank God
I have friends! I attended the show and so did my GNR buddies (friends..
since it was cancelled/postponed--- who knows with a prick like AXL!)
The album name was MALHAVOC:Premeditated Murder. I have had this for a
month and the US release should hit the stands in October if my memory 
serves me right. 

As James writes in the insert that the album was written because he was
tired of so many shit tunes being produced from generic house and hip hop beats.
So this was to show how far it could go. 

The wild thing is James had a cast on his right hand when he broke it in the
London show a week earlier(not UK london either) Unlike the wuss in Metallica 
who got burned, james still Jumped into the Mosh Pit with broken hand and all.

The album as I mentioned each song (9 songs for Premediated Murder plus extra
trax from earlier releases or mixes) basically each song took your generic
dance or hip hop beat and he brutalized the shit out of some of em and he 
produced the new album. The album is pretty good, but I am not going to out
right say that it is awesome. it is good though.

I agree also because I grew up listening to so much shit industrial and on 
my own I discovered so much more cool bands. Not all industrial, but some
good techno which is beginning to bore me.

 some ways I think it is good to see some of the bands leaving wax because
I only hope newer and better bands can replace them. KMFDM is probably the next
band to leave, TKK is on Interscope, so it only shows that WAX is not losing 
money but actually make progress in promoting a style of muzik which is getting
popular not only on the Independent labels, but some of the majors which are 
making little sub-labels to handle the work.


later
The Bilgerat