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From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Subject: Re: Comments, this weeks games
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:45:53 GMT

In article <wemXcRq00iUzE0tnVO@andrew.cmu.edu>, ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Karl Witte) writes:
> The following are some random thoughts on the games this weekend.
> 
> CHICAGO at MINNESOTA.  This is a big division game for this early in the
> season.  Anyone who has been following the NFC Central knows how screwed
> up it is.  If Minnesota can soundly beat Chicago, they will become one
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> of the teams to beat in all of the NFL, not just the NFC Central. 
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Chicago needs to win to tie with Minnesota, and if Tampa loses as well
> (which is not real likely), there will be a 3-way tie for first at 3-2. 
> If Green Bay wins, too, there could be a 4-way tie.  My prediction,
> Minnesota by 7.

So how do you draw *THAT* conclusion? The bears haven't looked so hot this
year, especially after that loss to the Giants, who IMHO are the 2nd worst
teams in the NFC east. In order to be "one of the best teams in the NFL"
you have to show you can compete with one of the best. So far this season
Chicago hasn't given us a reason to think they are one of the top teams
any more. IMHO. Let's see them win a game outside the division against
somebody a little better than Cincinnatti, OK?

pete clark
att!hos1cad!seth
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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Subject: Re: Cowboys can kick Bills Butt
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:52:21 GMT

>
>Actually, on the eleventh flip there is still a 50/50 chance of the coin
>coming up heads or tails.  It does not matter what has happened in the past.
>
>dps
>GO COWBOYS !!


This is the most fun I've had on the net in some time: watching this group of
Cowboy fans use their large brains to communicate deep thoughts.  Doesn't
anybody down there have a clue?  I BET the original POSTER is switching
his ALLEGIANCE right about NOW to distance HIMSELF from the other FANS.

						me
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:48:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct4.235238.10019@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes...
>>>Can anyone beat Miami?
>>
>>Be serious. They won a big game, not the Superbowl.
>>
>>
>>Doug
> 
>Why don't you be serious! If the Bills would have won, all
>you Bill fans would have been boasting, woofing nation
>wide. Give the credit where credit is due. True,it was
>only one game and not the SB. Please remember YOUR OWN
>advice next time the Bills have a run going again.
>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	


	I don't know who the putz was in Buffalo that started that "16-0" crap,
but it surely wasn't an intelligent football fan.  Now everyone here in Buffalo
is getting pounded because of that remark.  I never thought the Bills would go
undefeated, and *I* never woof it up (that much...  (:).  No doubt, my 
sentiments echo that of the entire Bills team, who most definately swallowed
their pride in giving Miami credit where credit was due.  Miami came to play,
Jim Kelly and Co. did not.  Miami executed smartly (Marino!), while the Bills
looked helpless, especially on defense.  Taking it all in, though, it's one
game...I'm not going to lose sleep over it, and neither probably will the 
Bills.
	I'm sure Levy and his staff will get their shit together come next 
week, and will have Nov. 16th circled on the calendar.  

Jonny B.
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 16:30:22 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <BvMDny.7AA@acsu.buffalo.edu> evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.210347.28947@cass.ma02.bull.com>, silverio@cass.ma02.bull.com (Brian Silverio) writes...
>>After watching Miami take Buffalo apart, the question is:
>> 
>>Can anyone beat Miami?
>
>Be serious. They won a big game, not the Superbowl.
>

Yeah, well at least they won the big game before they started talking about
it:-)
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VMark Software, Inc.              ||  perimeter edge, 
uvmark!davem@merk.com             ||  interlocked through a missing piece"
davem%uvmark@merk.com             ||" ...This world is totally Fugazi"
From: hug@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Eric John Hug)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bermanisms
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:00:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: aries.hug.718041658
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

danb@pogo.wv.tek.com writes:

>OK guys, help me out.  I have never understood the Bermanism:

> Brad "Colonel" Muster "who did it in the Laboratory with a lead pipe"


>Thanks,

>Dan

Obviously you are "Clue"less!  
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From: steves@gdfwc3 (Steve Strauss)
Subject: Re: RE:" Philadlephia:3 (ha!) Dallas:0
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:36:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.155218.25591@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ngoldber@nyx.cs.du.edu (norm goldberg) writes:

>      This is for the gentleman who posted his theory about the eagles
>   sweeping the cowboys this year.

>   " Go for the knee russel,the kneee!!!!!!!!"

>   Ya,i am a sick one,but nobody makes fun of my cowboys.
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^
Are you jimmy jones (or whatever the cowboys' owner's name is!)?
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From: martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packers cut Billups
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:12:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Oct6.201228.23038
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <56415@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> markn@firenze.orc.olivetti.com (Mark Nass) writes:

>  I read in the paper this morning that the Packers cut Lewis Billups.
>Does this mean that Buckley is ready to start? 

The USA Today reported the same thing.  Apparently Billups "complained
publicly" about being benched in faver of Buckley (this past Sunday?),
and Billups is now gone.


-- 

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Can Miami go undefeated again?
Followup-To: <BvMDny.7AA@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:25:37 GMT


In article: <BvMDny.7AA@acsu.buffalo.edu>, evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations) writes:


>Be serious. They won a big game, not the Superbowl.


>Doug

At least they have won the Super Bowl before, twice in a row. And
they're the only team to go to three consecutive Super Bowls. But
of course being a Bills fan you probably already know that. Seeing as
how the Bills have blown both of their chances and how the only way
Bills fans will ever see a Super Bowl victory will be vicariously
through Dolphin Fans eyes as the Dolphins cream the NFC participant
in this years SB.

John T.
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:07:40 EDT
From: Thomas A. Gryn <TAG2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Keith Jackson Signs!
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep29.142450.5338@makesys.com>, john@makesys.com (John Turman)
says:
<...>
>All great running teams in the past used a great blocking tight end with the
>recent Detroit Lions being the exception. Now the Dolphins have the premier
>blocking and pass catching tight end in the NFL all rolled up into one player.

Sorry, uh-uh.

As a Philly fan, I can say that Keith was a terrific pass-catcher, but his
blocking wasn't his best facet. Eric Green is a *much* better blocker, IMHO.
Even Edmunds might be better...if I were Miami, I'd consider using a 2-TE
set that Buffalo used in the early '80s, sending one TE out on patterns
(presumably Jackson) and keeping one TE in for blitz control (probably
Edmunds).

>This one aquisition should be enough to greatly improve the already improved
>Miami ground game. And with Jackson in the lineup the possibilities are now
>even more expanded. Dan Marino should be jumping up and down for joy in his
>living room right now.

It's a good pickup for Miami, but it's going to take a lot more than that
to take the division from the Bills.

Tom Gryn...........................................tag2@psuvm.psu.edu
"Fifteen credits in the Big Picture?"                   from the movie
"It's very big, fifteen credits probably isn't enough!"   "Creator"
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From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: Re: giants game!!
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:54:02 GMT

Go GIANTS! (Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU) wrote:
> 
> NOT ONLY did they win, they COMMANDED the 3rd half with over 12 minutes 
> possession.....
> 
> This is the REAL Giants, really, I swear it is...
> 
> Now, if you are a giants fan, repeat after me:
> LOSING to the 2 best teams in the NFL is nothing to be ashamed of!
> 

I'm just glad that we finally beat da Bears AT chicago!.

> 
> GO GIANTS!!!!!!  (the october schedule is soft)
> 10/4 raiders at la
> 10/11 phoenix
> 10/18 rams at la
> 10/25 seattle
> 
> THESE GAMES ARE OURS!!!!!!!

Hang on, let not get too confident. I mean, we lost to Cincy and The rams
last year..

> 
> Adriene L. Nazaretian        
> Yale University              
> ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
> ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU  


  +----------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
  |  Kevin Lu                              | Monash University             |
  |  Email: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au  | Clayton, Victoria             |
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay Question
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:58:05 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <5613@news.duke.edu> trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>
>What was Tampa Bay's initial losing streak when they came into the league,
>and what was the first team that they managed to beat?
>
>Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
>	"Love wears a white Stetson"--Keith Richards

I kneaux your plot Robert Clue.  This is obviously a diabolical scheme
to uproot the IGK.

The Bucs lost their first 26 games and broke the string against none
other than the Saints.

Tell Goober mission accomplished.

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From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC Predictions for WK 4
Date: 29 Sep 1992 03:21:07 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Sep28.213705.16510@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:
>In article <19vmlsINNqnt@uwm.edu> melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill) writes:
>>	Packers 17 Steelers 14
>>
	YeaH, I picked the upset. i love it.

>>	Falcons 28 Bears 10
>>
	totally wrong here. the bear came to play.

>>	Lions 24 Buccanears 3
>
	Wrong again.

>>	Vikings 23 Bengals 14
>>
	BOOM BABY! Well I picked it, but I really didnt expect 42-7 :)

>>Well, there you have it, we'll have to see monday how I did.
>
>.500
>>
>Ok, do you conceed now that you are underestimating the overall improve-
>ment of this division?   And,  as a guy who has SEEN the Buccaneers this
>season,  I don't know why you still totally disregard our football team.

	the bucs beat a good team in the Lions, I am impressed.
	Lets see if they can keep it up, along with Minnesota
	in a killer schedule, with Philly,Houston,Washington,
	and San Fran coming in the year.

	Mark 
	GO VIKINGS!

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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject:  Revised computer predictions
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 27 SEP 92 10:31:37    

The reason I'm reposting this is because at the urging of some of the 
fans on the net I have revised my algorithm.  The real change is not 
in the predictions but in the rankings below.  Teams now move up and 
down faster based on a logrhythmic function of the point spread of the 
previous weeks game.

The intersting thing is that no matter how I tweek the algorithm I 
can't get the cumulative record to do better than 31-10.  I guess 
there has been 10 bonafide upsets this year.

The number after the game is the amount the home team is expected to 
win or lose by.

Steelers      at Packers          -4
Falcons       at Bears             3
Bills         at Patriots         -7
Broncos       at Browns           -3
Chargers      at Oilers           10
Vikings       at Bengals           1
Buccaneers    at Lions            10
Dolphins      at Seahawks         -1
Jets          at Rams              2
49ers         at Saints            3
Raiders       at Chiefs            7

 1 Bills          86
 2 Redskins       84
 3 Cowboys        79
 4 Eagles         76
 5 Saints         73
 6 Broncos        72
 7 Lions          71
 8 49ers          68
 9 Oilers         65
10 Steelers       62
11 Chiefs         61
12 Bears          60
13 Falcons        60
14 Dolphins       57
15 Giants         52
16 Vikings        50
17 Raiders        36
18 Jets           34
19 Seahawks       33
20 Bengals        33
21 Browns         33
22 Buccaneers     27
23 Rams           27
24 Patriots       24
25 Cardinals      20
26 Packers        20
27 Chargers       19
28 Colts          14

JGH

"There are three things that are important to every man in this room.  
 His religion, his family, and the Green Bay Packers, in that order"
                   - Vince Lombardi as quoted by Jerry Kramer
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Ten best rated QB performances ever
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:39:57 GMT

In article <73FI03G59bue00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:

>In article <92276.2137463ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> 3ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:

>>I don't remember the exact date but after trailing the '49ers all game long
>>Roger Staubach ran them into the ground to advance in the playoffs in about
>>1971 or '72, maybe '73.  I don't know his stats for that game but, in
>>Candlestick Park, he turned them everyway but 'loose.  It was a part of
>>that "America's Team" mystique which I cannot stand.  Can anyone fill in the
>>blanks?  Bob

>I believe you are referring to the famous game in which the 49ers led the 
>Cowboys something like 27-10 with about four minutes left in the game and 
>Roger got on a roll and the Cowboys wound up taking the game 31-27. The 
>Cowboys recovered two consecutive onside kicks in the last two minutes of 
>that game. I don't think the game was at Candlestick, though, as Dallas was 
>11-3 that year and would have earned home-field advantage against a 9-5 SF 
>team.  It was one of the great all-time comebacks, made all that more famous 
>because it was in  the playoffs. 

It's me again...

The final score was 30-28.  The Niners had gone 8-5-1 to win their third
straight NFC West title.  And yes, the game was in Candlestick.  I think
Dallas had a better record but had finished behind the Deadskins in the
NFC Least, ergo the SF site for the game.

And in any event, it doesn't matter because it never really happened.


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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct4.210347.28947@cass.ma02.bull.com>, silverio@cass.ma02.bull.com (Brian Silverio) writes...
>After watching Miami take Buffalo apart, the question is:
> 
>Can anyone beat Miami?

Be serious. They won a big game, not the Superbowl.


Doug

                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                  |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
From: hanke@CS.ColoState.EDU (brandon laine hanke)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Monday Night Records
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:20:42 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department


   Does anyone know what the Monday Night win/loss records are for the
Washington Redskins and the Denver Broncos?  If you do please E-mail me 
at hanke@cs.colostate.edu .  Thank you in advance.


BBB   RRR    AA   N   N  DDD    OOO   N   N
B  B  R  R  A  A  NN  N  D  D  O   O  NN  N
BBB   RRR   AAAA  N N N  D  D  O   O  N N N 
B  B  R R   A  A  N  NN  D  D  O   O  N  NN
BBB   R  R  A  A  N   N  DDD    OOO   N   N
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From: jason@cray.com (Jason Parker)
Subject: Minnesota Vikings wk5
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:46:07 CDT

TEAM
Minnesota Vikings (4-1 1st NFC Central)

NEXT OPPONENT
(idle for week 6)
Detroit Lions (Thurs 10/15 at Minnesota)

GAME SUMMARY

          Minnesota*  Chicago
Pts       21          20
Rushing   27-127      28-86
Pass Att  21-26-2     20-34-2
Pass Yds  205         189
Fum Lost  2           1
Poss      26:51       33:09

PASSING
Gannon     25-20-2 187 P
Jones       1-1-0 18

RUSHING
T. Allen  11-72
Gannon     7-26
Craig      7-17 T
A. Carter  2-12

RECEIVING
C. Carter 8-67 T
Allen     5-69
Craig     3-40
A. Carter 2-15
Jones     2-10
Whitaker  1-4

KICKING
Reveiz 3X

SACKS
Doleman 1

INTERCEPTIONS
Scott     1
McMillian 1

INJURIES
(don't know of any)

SUMMARY NOTES
Vikings overcame first half turnovers and penalties
sparked by 4th quarter TD interception by Todd Scott.

OTHER NOTES 
*= Home team
P= Touchdown Pass Thrown
T= Touchdowns Scored
F= Field Goal Scored (number in parens is distance)
X= Extra Point Scored
PASSING: completions,attempts,interceptions, TD passes

This posting follows the proposed format of the NFL TEAM STAT PROJECT
Contact Jason Parker - jason@cray.com to sign-up and enter your
favorite team.
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From: 890554h@dragon.acadiau.ca (Andrew Hoogerwerf)
Subject: Fish
Summary: Dolphin Digest
Keywords: Fish
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:07:28 GMT

In response to Snoopy who said the "FISH" have no chance of beating the Bills.
If anyone in the AFC it's going to be Dangerous Dan and his merry dolphins.
The only thing stopping them from the Superbowl is its somewhat inadequate
defensive line. But mark my words, the Miami Pound Machine will be back 
and they will put "Squirmin" Thurman in his place.
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (Go GIANTS!)
Subject: Re: Harbaugh Gets Ass Chewing
Organization: Yale University Computing & Information Systems
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:11:33 GMT

In article <16877A678.S900303@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> Joe Football writes:
>Subject: Harbaugh Gets Ass Chewing
>From: Joe Football
>Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:50:16 GMT

>Any comments on this?  Will Harbaugh be starting QB next week?
> 
> 
> 

WELL Ditka said "Any man on the team who thinks they know football better 
than I do has a suprise coming, the changes will be hard and permanent".

I tend to think he was serious, only because of the size of the veins 
popping out of his neck though :-)

Cheers,
Adriene L. Nazaretian        
Yale University              
ADRIENE@YALEADS.BITNET        
ADRIENE@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU
From: etryon@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Earl Tryon )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Will Haynes start or play for Atlanta this week?
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:57:00 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

Hi....is the wide receiver Haynes going to start for Atlanta this
Sunday?  He has had a bum shoulder and has not played for the last two
weeks.  Will he play?
				Thanks Earl Tryon
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: Best Performance
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:21:38 GMT

jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:

>I will bet my orothodontist against your's. :-) Montana holds practically
>ALL SB records. Why nick and pick over a couple? If you insist
>though, I will try and obtain an official NFL, SB record stats for
>you and post them for the world to see.
>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	

Montanas SB records:

Career:                                      Single Game:
----------------------------------           -----------------------------
most completions (83)                        consecutive completions (13)
most attempts (122)                          most yards passing (357)
completion percentage (68.0)                 TD passes (5)
most yards passing (1142)                    most atts w/o INT (36)
TD passes (11)
INT % (0.00) (tied with Plunkett)

Thats after a quick perusal of the NFL Fact and Record Book.
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES WILL WIN THE BIG ONE
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:52:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX


Don't you just hate it when freshman finally figure out how to post?

dw