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From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: WD2010
Organization: Vision Graphics
              Dover NH
              USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:13:52 GMT

Could someone please tell me where a resource is for the WD2010 (or 
equivalent)?  I think this was posted a while ago, but I can't find
reference. 

ALSO: I've been told that there is a newer version of 'ka9q' out there,
but it's now called 'NOS'.  I'd like to port this to the 3b1, but have
been advised that there might be problems due to the lack of a viable
sockets library.  Has anyone attempted (succeeded?) at porting this?
Is the uipc.tar.Z file on osu-cis the _latest_ version?  I would think
(or hope) that between the Wollongong (bong bong bong ... boing) package
and the uipc code that some of this might get compiled.

Thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: lhawkins@olaf.wellesley.edu (Lee Hawkins)
Subject: Lot's o' 3b1/7300/UNIXpc stuff for sale -- UPDATE
Organization: Wellesley College
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:56:24 GMT

Well, I've been doing my August cleaning, and it's time to get rid of
some of the 3b1 stuff that I no longer use.  Prices on everything marked obo 
are VERY negotiable.  All others are FIRM.  Prices DO NOT include shipping,
COD, or (only in the case of the 7300) packing charges.  I make NO
guarantees about the condition of the 7300 or the Dos-73 board, other
than that they were working fine when I shipped them. 
I will ship these items UPS COD, and email you the price
including shipping just after I have shipped it and know the number.
Lastly, I will deliver the 7300 (and ONLY the 7300---NOT the software) within 
50 miles of Wellesley.  Alternatively, you may pick up any of the items
at a prearraged time at my office at the Observatory at Wellesley
College.  All software includes original disks (except UniPlex, see
below), manuals, and quick-ref cards. 


Software:

	Qty.			Description			Price ea.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
	2 SOLD	ATT Unix-PC Word Processor			$25
	1 SOLD	Microsoft Word v1.x				$50 obo
	1 *	ATT SuperCOMP 20 Spread Sheet			$25
	1 *	ATT Business Graphics				$25
	2 SOLD	DBase III					$50 obo
	1	Microsoft Multiplan				$50 obo
	1 **	Samna (Spread Sheet, Database, Word proc)	$100 obo
	1 **	UniPlex II (Spread Sheet, Database, Word proc.) $50 obo
	2 NOW 1	ATT System Software and Manuals v3.51		$75
	1	ATT System Software and Manuals v3.0		$25
	1	ATT Software Devel. Utils and Manuals v3.0	$25
	
* Also, note that Business Graphics is only useful (as far as I can tell)
with SUPERComp20.  I will let the pair of those go as a package for
$40.

** The original disks for this have disappeared, so all I have is a set
of backup disks.  All four original manuals, though.  If you need a
database, word processor, and spread sheet, either this package or Samna
are the way to go, as all three are integrated with each other, and
therefore work well together.  Also, the price is much cheaper than
buying, say, DBase, Word, and Multiplan separately.  Also note that
Samna for the 3b1 is a MUCH better word processor than Word for the 3b1.

Hardware:

	Qty.			Description			Price ea.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
	1	Dos-73 Board, Plug, Manuals, and Software	$150 obo
	1 	7300, 512k MB, 20Mb. HD, new battery		$300 obo

________________________________________________________________________________
R. Lee Hawkins					 lhawkins@annie.wellesley.edu
Department of Astronomy				 lhawkins@lucy.wellesley.edu
Whitin Observatory
Wellesley College                                   Ph. 617-283-2708
Wellesley, MA 02181                                 FAX 617-283-3642
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon)
Subject: Re: group directory source directory
Keywords: directories?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:20:59 GMT

Frank, I think the idea of a directory of UnixPC users is not good,
nor is a directory of sources.  The best thing to have is what we
have now, a communications pipeline with an interested community and
a busy history.

A very few volunteers can maintain the underlying knowledge of sources,
the FAQ, and even the sources themselves.  As long as Andy Fyfe, Frank
Higgins, Dave Brierley, Thad, DoN, and a few others are interested in
posting intelligent stuff, (and as long as anyone's ego is bolstered
by the group's gratitude for it), the newsgroup will prosper.
When people feel that nothing worthy is being contributed, the
newsgroup will die.  And the 3b1/7300 with it.

Since the 3b1/7300 is such a good system for hobbyists and students,
it hardly seems likely that its lifeline, this newsgroup, will wither
soon.  Perhaps, when vastly superior systems start becoming surplus in
similar numbers.  Perhaps when 386bsd matures, and really fast [34]86
systems get below $1K, people's interest will move.

I personally hate little-endian systems, and Intel particularly, so
I guess I'll have to wait for cheap Sparc and 68040 systems to come
along, before I'll abandon my 3 3b1s.  But I wouldn't keep them at
all if it weren't for the newsgroup.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,biz.comp.telebit
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: WorldBlazer on 3B1 (aka UNIX PC)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 21:55:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Aug30.084356.16529@ditka.Chicago.COM> kls@ditka.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz) writes:
>
>The problem comes when I turn the getty on.  As soon as I try to go
>out via the modem the getty starts echoing the modem's responses to
>cu/uucico and a shouting match ensues.  There is a correct lock for
>the outgoing program but uugetty seems to be ignoring it.
>
>The WorldBlazer configuration I'm using is essentially the builtin
>one for HDB UUCP (which I'm running), set by AT&F3&W0.  I was using
>a few modified registers but nothing that should have any effect, and
>reverting to exactly what &F3 gives didn't help any.
>
   [...]
>
>Meanwhile, my old TrailBlazer Plus, with a very similar configuration
>and identical Devices/Dialers entries, continues to work just fine as
>it has for years.  BTW, the 3B1 is running 3.51m and HDB uucp.
>

Just exactly how "similar" is the TB+ configuration?  If one modem
works and the other doesn't, the differences are the first place to
look for the cause of the problem.

My initial guess would be in the DCD and DSR signal handling.  Since you
didn't include register dumps for the two modems, I can't point out the
differences, but I can mention that the WB's &F3 settings have DCD off
until the connection is complete, but DSR turns on sooner - when the
other modem's carrier is first heard.  Check that against the S53 or
S130/S131 settings on your TB+.  If you want DSR to stay on always, use
&S0.  If you want DSR to turn on when the connection is complete, use &S4.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Subject: Re: Lack of libPW.a module
Summary: question re:alloca where to put it?
Keywords: libPW PW alloca xmalloc
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:37:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.235036.28469@colnet.cmhnet.org> res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli) writes:
>Here is a version of alloca that I snarfed off the net a few years ago.
>I like it because it is specific to the 3B1 and works quite efficiently,
>although it looks to me like it sometimes (when the size is a multiple
>of 4) allocates more memory then needed.
>
...

is it safe to put a permanent copy of alloca into libPW.a and just let
it be found there, or should one have it available to be added into
compiles as needed?
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.sources.wanted
From: memanuel@cbnews.cb.att.com (mark.emanuele)
Subject: Re: time conversion
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:32:18 GMT

In article <64984@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
>Look in the comp.sources.3b1 archives about a month ago for my rsetclk
>which contains a routine to perform that conversion.


I know this has GOT to be an faq, but where are th comp.sources.3b1 archives




Mark A. Emanuele
memanuele@attmail.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,biz.comp.telebit
From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Subject: Re: WorldBlazer on 3B1 (aka UNIX PC)
Organization: D & D Data
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:10:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.084356.16529@ditka.Chicago.COM> kls@ditka.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz) writes:
>I know someone mentioned something about the Telebit WorldBlazer on
>a 3B1 recently but I didn't think I had a problem since my T3000 had
>been working just fine.  My WorldBlazer upgrade ROMs finally arrived
>yesterday and now I find that I do have a problem.  It was actually
>there all along but without PEP the T3000 was only marginally useful
>to me so I had it on my voice line, dialout only.

	Amen!  I haven't gotten my ubgrade kit yet, so I haven't had a
chance to try it.  However, I talked to someone at a hamfest who mentioned
that there was an undocumented switch (which didn't even show up in the
listings until you had set it once).  I don't remember what it did, but it
was S120=16.  You might try it and see if it helps.

	He also mentioned problems talking to older Telebits via PEP, which
required that their owners call in for the BC-7 rom upgrade to cure the
problem.

	I hope that this helps some.

	Good Luck
		DoN.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Re: group directory source directory
Keywords: directories?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 02:16:47 GMT

frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins) writes:

>I am concerned that some of the "guru"s are apparently leaving the group. I
>think that the UNIX-PC still has life. In the interest of extending that
>life, the following are a couple of queries/suggestions I've had for some
>time, that might(?) add something to the group. Your responses are
>solicited:

>	Would there be any value in either of the following directories
>	to me maintained and published like the FAQ (OR kept in the
>	archives which I am not smart enough to access or know how
>	they are maintained)??

>		 DIRECTORY OF UNIX-PC USERS
>			Strictly voluntary. Minimum inclusion
>			would be name and electronic address.
>			Physical (postal) address optional.
>			Voice phone optional.

>		DIRECTORY OF SOURCES
>			Voluntary contributions with or without
>			comment, indicating what hardware or
>			software was obtained there, price,
>			quality, date of acquisition.

>			It seems chancy and redundant to have
>			to poll the group for a source that
>			was posted previously more than once.

>			It would be tempting to include comments
>			regarding honesty but I would think that
>			anything more than mere facts would be 
>			inappropriate if not outright risking
>			legal response. 

>Maintainance of such directories would required dedicated person(s). I
>would volunteer but am suffering spousal wrath already. However, I will
>accumulate responses to this suggestion(s) and post the results.

>Frank        

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I like the idea..  I would be willing to maintain such a list.  So if
anybody decides to post sources or names please send a copy along to
me also.


John.

P.S.  I have a bit of free time I can dedicate to the cause...


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From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: netfax (was: Re: 3b1 internal modem-flow control)
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:15:15 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <344@zebra.UUCP> vern@zebra.UUCP (Vernon C. Hoxie) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.213609.7371@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
>
>.. deletions ..
>
>>
>>	If you do feed it through your 3B1, you'll need to set the software
>>up [ ... do do what the following code provides ]
>
>	I have just posted a revised version of the NBS.timeck program.
>The new name is NIST.timechk.

	Even updated to follow the goverment re-naming binge :-)

>	There is is routine which which manages the
>/usr/spool/uucp/LCK..XXXX files appropriately.  Thanks to a suggestion
>from Karl Schwartz.
>
>	There is also a section which will remove and restore getty's in
>good fashion.  Thanks to code posted by John Milton.
>
>	Please feel free to appropriate whatever parts you might be able
>to use elsewhere.

	Thanks for both the updated program and the pointers to these
routines.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.3b1:3243 comp.sources.wanted:4149
From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Re: time conversion
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 23:13:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

In article <816@iczer-1.UUCP> emm@iczer-1.UUCP (Edward M. Markowski) writes:

|  Does anybody have the source to a function that converts
|  time in the form of yymmddhhmmss to the form returned by
|  the unix time function?

Look in the comp.sources.3b1 archives about a month ago for my rsetclk
which contains a routine to perform that conversion.

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com ]
From: bheess@mcws.fidonet.org (Brian L. Heess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: group directory source directory
Keywords: directories?
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 15:44:31 PDT
Reply-To: bheess@mcws.fidonet.org
Distribution: world
Organization: midnight computer wiring society - Tujunga, CA, USA

frank@halcyon.com (Frank Higgins) writes:

[...]
> 	Would there be any value in either of the following directories
> 	to me maintained and published like the FAQ (OR kept in the
> 	archives which I am not smart enough to access or know how
> 	they are maintained)??
> 
> 		 DIRECTORY OF UNIX-PC USERS
>      DIRECTORY OF SOURCES
[...]

I think those are great ideas!  I am too busy to do it, though...

Hey, I remember talking to you on the phone once, I think...I notice
that you're on halcyon, now.  Say "hi" to Ralph for me...

-Brian


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: rwilson@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Ron Wilson)
Subject: Re: batteries
Keywords: lithium battery, nicad batteries, gell cells
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit Mich.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:33:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.002553.16101@ceilidh.beartrack.com> dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.214628.12005@tc.fluke.COM> vince@tc.fluke.COM (Craig Johnson) writes:
>>I'm pretty sure the RTC chip is a Toshiba TC8250 and a quick look in a
>>data book says the battery voltage can be anything in the range 1.8 -
>>5.0V.
>
>	[ ... ]
>
>>Its no big deal.  You can use just about anything.  May as well do what
>>you can to keep it cheap and easy to service.
>
>	In this case, the next one that I modify, I will probably put in a
>trio of nicads (3.6V total) and a resistor to trickle-charge them from the
>system's +5V.

nicads "hate" to be continuously charged - this can, sometimes, lead to them
exploding (this has happened twice to equipment I tried to "battery backup"
this way - I haven't done it again).

A better approach would be to use a pair of "gell cells" (total of 4V) instead
of the nicads.

FYI: nicads work best in applications where they are first fully charged asnd
them fully discharged before the next charging.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: emery@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Scott Emery ACF)
Subject: Re: Can't read floppy
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:11:26 GMT

In article <v9jn=0#.vancleef@netcom.com> vancleef@netcom.com (Henry van Cleef) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.103343.6512@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
>>In article <Btvqso.KCq@cs.psu.edu> plu@math.psu.edu (Todo Simpson) writes:
>>"							      I went
>>"to the shell and tried `mount /dev/rfp020 /floppie' (having created
>>"the directory floppie for that purpose), but it said `mount: Block
>>"device required'.
>>
>>try 'mount /dev/fp020 /floppie'.  rfp is the raw (character) device.
>
[WARNING: enough information changed to distort the post's meaning]
>
>Don't forget to umount the disk before pulling it out---if you write,
>the bytes won't get written until a sync happens, and umount cleans up
>the world.
>-- 

The UNIXPCism for umount for the floppy is "dismount -f". I believe that
umount is equally effective, but I have not seen that explicitly stated
anywhere.

>Hank van Cleef---The Union Institute---History of Science and Technology
>Unix, X11, networked systems  vancleef@netcom.com, vancleef@tmn.com  

Scott Emery
emery@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: steve@digibd.com (Steve Wahl)
Subject: Re: Lack of libPW.a module
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:38:51 GMT
Keywords: libPW PW alloca xmalloc

In article <1992Aug25.235036.28469@colnet.cmhnet.org> res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli) writes:
...
>===============================================================================
># This is optimized for the Unix PC, it won't work on some other 68k systems.
># The "and.l &-4" could be changed to "and.l &-2" if you're only running the
># code on the Unix PC.  I use this same code when cross-compiling to a 68020
># system, thus the longword alignment.
>
>	global	alloca
>alloca:
>	mov.l	(%sp)+,%a0	# pop return addr
>	mov.l	(%sp),%d0	# get size argument
>	and.l	&-4,%d0		# round size down to long word
>	sub.l	%d0,%sp		# allocate by moving stack pointer
>	mov.l	%sp,%d0		# return pointer in d0
>	lea	-4(%sp),%sp	# allow caller to pop the arg
>	jmp	(%a0)		# return

Rob's post mentions that you can't call this alloca() when there's
something on the stack.  But beware: I believe this aproach also fails
if you use register variables in your functions: think about how the
compiler saves and restores the registers.

--> Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: bruce@sonyd1.Broadcast.Sony.COM (Bruce Lilly)
Subject: problems with some files on osu-cis
Organization: Bruce Lilly
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:16:26 GMT

Some of the files on osu-cis seem to have been mangled.
Specifically, in ~/att7300/csvax
	perl-bin.tar.Z
		and
	perl-man.tar.Z
		both cannot be un-tar'ed due to a ``directory 
		checksum error''.  The part that comes out
		before the error (usr/bin/perl in the case of
		perl-bin.tar.Z--note the relative, rather than
		absolute, path name) is unusable ("usr/bin/perl"
		dumps core due to an Illegal instruction.
	gnutar.Z
		fills up the disk when uncompressed. I had to stop
		uncompressing when the file size reached 4 megabytes,
		and it hadn't finished. Something's wrong with this
		file, too.
By the way, GNU tar (after retrieving sources and building it from
scratch) didn't fare any better on the first two files--in fact, it
just burnt up more CPU time before it quit.

Could the person responsible for maintaining the osu-cis archives
please look into this and post to the net when the problems have
been resolved.  Thanks in advance.
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: netfax (was: Re: 3b1 internal modem-flow control)
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:57:51 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Aug24.204232.3428@sonyd1.Broadcast.Sony.COM> bruce@sonyd1.Broadcast.Sony.COM (Bruce Lilly) writes:
>In article <BtHxo5.JEq@hico2.westmark.com> kak@hico2.westmark.com wrote:
>>I have gotten a copy of the netfax software (from ftp.uu.net),
>>and started trying to see if I could get it running.

This is a lot of very hard work.  You have a lot of hacking to do in the
I/O stuff.

>>Anybody else working on this?

I've gotten a certain distance along, but it ain't sharable, and it ain't
working either - can't even dial the phone yet.

>I have a Digicom Systems 9624LE+, which also has fax capability. I've looked
>at the "faxpax" package posted to comp.sources.<mumble> over a year ago.
>That package has some compiled-in hardware dependencies specific to the modem
>the author used, and specific to SunOs.  Some of the bits of the package compiled
>OK on the 3B1--I was able to get the bit-map font stuff compiled.  Also, using
>the information in the package, along with some experimentation using cu, I
>was able to get the modem to communicate with a fax machine, at least as far as
>establishing a connection and exchanging some TTI data.

Caution is advised.  I had faxpak sorta working (it was able to connect), but
it nuked my /usr/spool/uucp (directory and all poof!).

>Getting a fax package working is still on my list of things to do, but I've stooped
>trying to get the faxpax package up, because of the hard-coded dependencies
>mentioned above, and the crude fonts.

Faxpak is probably easier for 3b1 than anything else.  Certainly easier than
netfax.  The hard-coded dependencies in faxpak are a lot less than netfax's
reliance on socket et. al.

The font issue is easily resolvable.  If you're intending to use this on ASCII
or HP PCL, hp2pbm can be dropped into faxpak (it was designed for it) and
it has pretty good fonts.

I've seen fax output of faxpak (Klaus and I collaborated on hp2pbm), and
even without hp2pbm the results are pretty good at fax resolution.
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