HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no (Joern Moe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Atari Corp. Scand. AB (Norway)
Subject: Re: More Official Falcon Specs wanted
	<10004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>
	<92241.171245RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Reply-To: jornmoe@fredrik.atari.no
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 12:54:14 MET

In <92241.171245RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>, Julian F. Reschke writes:
>
>In article <10004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
>says:
>>This is an interesting question, since I believe even the more recent
>>Amigas have something like a 1-meg limit on "chip memory".  The blitter
>>on the ST had no such restrictions and the Falcon blitter is fully
>>compatible with that one.  I supose it could, technically be limited to
>>4Meg - since the entire ST could only (theoretically :-]) handle 4Meg.
>
>The ST blitter definitively is NOT limited to 4MB - I already used it for
>blitting on a graohics card (at $C00000). It *might* be limited to 16M.
>
>___________________________ cut here _____________________________________
>JULIAN F. RESCHKE, HENSENSTR. 142, D-W4400 MUENSTER
>EMAIL: JULIAN@MATH.UNI-MUENSTER.DE, JR@MS.MAUS.DE
>____________________ correct me if I'm wrong _____________________________

The blitter's adress registers are actually 32bit, but only 24 (vel actually
only 23 bit + UDS/LDS logic) is used, so it is definitivly 'limited' to 16MB.
This might only apply tho the old ST Blitter, but I can't see why it shouldn't
apply to the 16MHZ Blitter in the Falcon. Actually, if Atari decided to, it 
should be easy to enhance the blitter to be abel to address the whole 32 bit
range (4GB)!!

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From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:17:57 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <1992Aug26.131447.25040@oz.plymouth.edu> oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel) writes:
>Could anyone (who knows) comment on the 3D look to this newer TOS/GEM
>? Any posibility that it will work with a Mega STe (I'm assuming
>MultiTos won't be available fro an STe) ? I haven't gotten 2.06 yet
>for my Mega STe so if I can get a 3D style I'd love to.....

   Perhaps if someone has one of these new machines could maybe make a 
screen snapshot (in Degas or GIF format) and post it.  I would assume
that since it has been -displayed- in public then it shouldn't be
breaking any non-disclosure pacts with Atari to do so?  Of course, it
would probably be smart to ask Atari first.  Or better yet, maybe a
screen snapshot could be included in an issue of Atari Explorer Online
as one of their "bonus files?"  Just a thought...

					Robert Anisko
					anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Subject: Re: Falcon DSP -> standard modem & fax?
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 11:05:45 GMT

In <1992Aug27.013832.11651@athena.cs.uga.edu> kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:

>The NeXT is a fairly popular research workstation, partially because of the
>built-in DSP (the same one in the Falcon).  With the right interfaces for 
>the DSP port, it can take in gobs and gobs of data and spit out results 
>before you can say "go!"  Okay, maybe that's somewhat of an exaggeration, 
>but a DSP can do some mighty impressive things.  Perhaps (and that's a big
>"perhaps") the Falcon will also be used by some researchers on a budget.  

I wouldn't say the "perhaps" is that big, at least  not  here  in
Germany.  Ataris  are  quite  popular at research institutes over
here -- remember that "Atari computers in tv" thread  when  there
was  this  report about two German nobel laureates showing one of
them in his lab which was full of Mega ST's. There definitely are
people  who are familiar with Ataris and have the capabilities of
creating the hard- and software for such realtime  data  analysis
purposes.

Greetinx, Jan

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From: amos@prl.dec.com (Samos)
Subject: Falcon, but whoM
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:10:34 GMT

Well, I mean before developping on the Falcon, we all have to wait
to see how devices will be sold, and WHICH configuration will be
the more expanded..

For example :

o	if noone buys a 1MegFalcon, and you do not need to 
	make your program with 1Meg..
o	And if noone buys a Falcon, you do not need to 
	make commercial products..

Wait'n'see...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: New operating systems (OS/2-TOS)
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:50:20 GMT

wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org writes:
>In <92232.114652RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>, Julian F. Reschke writes:
>> >What is the fastest Motorola processor?
>> 
>> 68040/33 Mhz. Seems to be comparable to a Sparc chip.
>
>That was yesterday, guys. Coming from Atari fair I can
>tell you that I've seen a ST/TT-Compatible with a
>68040 CPU running at 60 (= sixty!) MHz.
>The GEM_TEST.PRG benchmark was finished in about
>three seconds...
>
>Regards, Markus.
>
>-- 
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>/etc/motd           >> Luck is believing you're lucky ! <<

Is this the 68040 running 60 MHz internally and externally 30(33?) MHz? Is the
price, which was quoted at 3000,- DM right? Well, I am currently running a
486DX50 MHz (internal/external at 50 MHz) and it is fast so I can imagine how
everybody was interested in that Board. I got prepared, got myself a
motherboard that will handle the "overdrive" chip (100 MHz) once it is
released by Intel. This never ends...;-)

Mark K.
E-Mail: kovarski@zooid.guild.org

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Bug in TOSWIN (was: Re: MiNT 0.95 now available)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:10:28 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <2A90BF92.20961@orion.oac.uci.edu> jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance) writes:

>>>	another feature i would like to see is a config. option to
>>>set auto-top on mouse entry into a window.

>"dctoper2.lzh".  

I wrote one, too. This is a smaller version and TOS independent, but
less luxury (who knows, maybe there will be a better version TOMORROW).
It's available as 'autorais' in our anonymous ftp site:

	sol.cs.ruu.nl

	Annius Groenink
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 1992 18:19:39 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Viruses???

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 2-Sep-92 Viruses??? Jeoff
Hines@mizzou1.miss (279)
>  
>  
> has anyone out there ever had any troubles with viruses on the softwares they
> get from ftps like the atari.arcive...?  I'm just kind of curious.  Not to say
> that there are a bunch of evil hackers out there, nor am I paranoid.  But
> should getting viruses be a worry of mine?

I never worried about viruses and hven't had a lot of them
Furthermore, none was really dangerous !

Maybe I'm lucky !

	Stefan Monnier


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Subject: Re: green SM124?
Keywords: CRT replacement
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:50:41 GMT

In <1992Aug29.224020.2320@mcshh.Hanse.DE> dk3uz@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Edmund Ramm) writes:


>Hello,

>   is there such a thing as a green phosphor CRT with the same electrical
>and mechanical specs as the white phosphor CRT of a SM124 monitor?

>   Awaiting your answers,

Ewwwwwwwwwwwww! Now WHY would anyone want a GREEN SM124??? Well, I
suppose if you want that IBM monochrome monitor look, just tape
green cellophane to your monitor.

Or wear some green sunglasses.

(heh heh)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: darekm@microsoft.com (Darek Mihocka)
Subject: Looking for KAOS TOS
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:50:37 GMT
Organization: BraSoft

Would the author(s) of KAOS TOS please contact me by private email?

- Darek

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Subject: Re: More Official Falcon Specs wanted
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:41:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.083542.19881@hsr.no> leikvoll@hsr.no (Morten Leikvoll) writes:
>> 
>> Oh, I forgot - PC's still have a text screen.  For DOS.
>
>Yes, isn't it terrible using wordperfect (the old one)......
>


It only seems terrible until you try WordPerfect for Windows.  After
that, you'll run yelling and screaming back to DOS WordPerfect :-) :-)
:-)

Paul


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Reply-To: oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:14:47 GMT

{I'm not too sure who said what here.....}

In article <1992Aug26.102031.10533@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:
>In article <l9l8e3INNhhf@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug25.124510.2938@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro) writes:

>>>I guess everyone knows that the GEM interface has gone '3-D', i.e 3D borders
>>>on windows and 3D buttons just like Windows. Unfortunately they didn't

>>	This is nice, but seeing as how soon MT should be out, I doubt if 
>>TOS 2.07 (still haven't figured out why it isn't 3.07) will get high sales
>>volume.  BTW, anyone know if it has the CTS/RTS bug?  Will MT incorporate the
>>3-D look of 2.07?

>Interestingly, the Falcons at the show were running (According to the
>Atari guy), TOS 4.0.


Could anyone (who knows) comment on the 3D look to this newer TOS/GEM
? Any posibility that it will work with a Mega STe (I'm assuming
MultiTos won't be available fro an STe) ? I haven't gotten 2.06 yet
for my Mega STe so if I can get a 3D style I'd love to.....

Also, what kind of monitor do you need for the 3D effect ?

Lastly, Where can I find that list of monitors/video cards for Mega
STe's ? My SM124 (1986 vintage) is finally starting to show its age
(and I can't stand to use my SM1224 for anything other than games)...

Thanx....
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: PAULETTI@biel.be.tech.ascom.ch (Pauletti Andreas)
Subject: Re: Errors when dumping EMACS 18.58
Organization: Ascom Tech Ltd., Corporate Services, Division for Research 
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:55:41 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <86010049@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com> jensk@hpbbrd.bbn.hp.com writes:

> 
> You need to get the compiled LISP files (*.elc). The default size of the
> `pure' storage area is too small for the non-compiled files.
> Alternatively, rebuild EMACS with a much bigger PURESIZE parameter and compile
> those files yourself (that's what I did, and it wasn't fun ...).
> 
> 	Jens.
> --

Thanks for the response. I already thought "Another message that went into
the big BLACK USENET HOLE"

I do not know anything about the concetp of dumping EMACS 18.58, and I will
try what you told me. But I do NOT understand why the simple method with the
environment variables does not work. It look like it did in your case either.
As I only have the binaries I don't know if and how I must specify the
PURESIZE parameter. I hope first method with copying the *.elc files into
the e-bin directory works.

cheers andreas pauletti 
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From: jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss)
Subject: X-Control Problem and Request
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 03:39:23 GMT


Hello.

Quite a long while back, I pulled xcontrol.arc off of atari.archive.
It piddled with it a bit, then tucked it away in an obscure part of my
hard disk.  Recently I came back to it.  And I realized why I tucked
it away.  For one reason or another, my modem.cpx bombs when I
activate it.  And I seem to recall a discussion of this when xcontrol
was first made available.

Anyway, what I'm wondering is if some kind soul would please e-mail me
a working copy of this cpx, or point me towards an ftp site and file
name where I might find it.  If you can help, please reply via e-mail
as I'll be away from my account for a while over break and I don't
want to wade through a ton of news when I get back.

Thanks in advance.
Joe
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From: avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: GEM.. what needs to be fixed, and soon!
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:03:54 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <1992Aug27.100551.4716@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher) writes:

>
>(1) Response time for mouse button presses.
>
>	Has anyone noticed that it takes about a second for a mouse press to
>be acted upon under GEM? This delay is the same on the TT as on the ST. This
>has put off a large number of people when I've tried to promote the ST/TT
>for general use. It can be a right pain when you click on one item, move the
>mouse and the system highlights the one your mouse just passed over.
>

GEM needs this time to determine the difference between a single and double
click. Just set the double click speed to 4 (maximum) and your mouse buttons
will react a lot faster. (You will have to learn the double click all over
as well...)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: uucico 3.42
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 10:47:49 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Aug24.045506.18193@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>,<6814380@zebedee.UUCP>,<1992Aug28.235306.9228@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Aug28.235306.9228@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>, shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
>In article <6814380@zebedee.UUCP>, geoffc@zebedee.UUCP (Geoffrey Coan) writes:
>>> Now can someone tell me how the program Kosten works? it also does something
>>>  with the uucico adm file.
>>> 
>>Where did you find Kosten ?   Is it part of hermes ?   Incidently, is
>>hermes still on atari.archive as telecomm/herm100b.lzh - because I can't
>>find it if it is.
>
>I got it with the Hermes v1.03 from a german site Stuttgart
> (129.69.1.12)   (I only have the number, all the names for it are
> unrecogonised from here that i've seen)
>I can't remember the path to it, try pub/atari/telecomm/hermes
> wherever it is, it's in it's own directory calles hermes.
>FTP all the files from that dir to get Hermes 1.03... Kosten is one of them.
> there's a file called how2(something!), read that, it tells you how to
> decompress it all.
>
>Craig.
>* Craig Shore  | Phone (voice)  | Internet:shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz    *
>* 20 Tasman Pl,|  +64 3 3852501 |         :craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz   *
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This is the main site for Hermes from memory...
 pascal.math.fu-berlin.de (130.133.4.50)...


Roger............               sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: HUTTER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Wolfgang Hutter)
Subject: Not enough memory...
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:37:32 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi there!

This may be too stupid for some of you, but if so just skip the message. 
I just wanted to get some help on a problem that I encounter frequently 
with my ATARI.

I use a 1040STFM with the Blitter-TOS (1.02?). The thing that troubles 
me is that the system comes up frequently with a message like 'Not 
enough memory for this application' although the whole memory should be 
free. Any hints?

Another thing that is annoying is that I can't get programs installed as 
applications so that I can double-click the text-file e.g. instead of 
the editor. The system always says that 'the application can't find the 
desired object' after looking on drive A: when I didn't ask for anithing 
on drive A:. It works well from within GEMINI, but not from the GEM 
desktop. What's wrong?

Thanks for bearing with a not too experienced user.

Wolfgang <><

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From: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Marsupilami's private UUCP site - Palumbien, Germany.
Subject: Re: New operating systems (OS/2-TOS)
	<92232.114652RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Reply-To: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:11:36 MET

In <92232.114652RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>, Julian F. Reschke writes:
> >What is the fastest Motorola processor?
> 
> 68040/33 Mhz. Seems to be comparable to a Sparc chip.

That was yesterday, guys. Coming from Atari fair I can
tell you that I've seen a ST/TT-Compatible with a
68040 CPU running at 60 (= sixty!) MHz.
The GEM_TEST.PRG benchmark was finished in about
three seconds...

Regards, Markus.

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From: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Mouse Walk
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:43:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2383
Reply-To: dunham_jerry@tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.

In article <1992Sep2.201806.21070@actrix.gen.nz> Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>> (By the way, what is the preferred plural form of 'mouse'?)
>
>'Mice' - as it usually is!

If the plural of "mouse" is "mice", and the plural of "louse" is "lice", is
the plural of "spouse" "spice"?

Inquiring minds want to know....


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From: sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:31:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IeafHDC00awAICXXAh
	<l9l8e3INNhhf@aludra.usc.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 25-Aug-92 Re: Falcon Graphics
Juxtaposer@aludra.usc.ed (2459)

> In article <1992Aug25.124510.2938@aber.ac.uk> hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert
> Martin Sauro) writes:
> >Having now seen the Falcon at first hand (ie at the show) I was a bit
> >disappointed at the graphics. The 640x480 at 256 colour appeared to
> >be quite stable, almost as good as mono on an SM124. The higher colour
> >modes however, weren't very good and a number of the monitors showed
> >flicker which is a shame.

> 	Was this on a SC1224 monitor or were you seeing flicker on a Multisync?
> BTW, anyone know what the line-doubling graphics mode is?


Yes, someone knows: it is just a mechanism that displays each lines
twice so that
you have a 640x240 screen displayed as a 640x480 (it is just like an y zoom) !

On Multisync monitors, you're likely not to be able to display 640x240
cause it is
too slow for the monitor (or cause the image is not good: not enough
points used and
too many unused ). The line-doubling permits to use the 640x240 on this
kind of 
monitor (it can be useful for compatiblity or for memory reasons)

Stefan Monnier


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 1992 12:55:15 -0400 
From: Geoffrey Spear <gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: More C compiler problems...

	Has anyone successfully compiled the HiSoft C GEM toolbox with Sozobon
C?  I know it will work fine with Lattice C (not surprising, since
HiSoft makes Lattice C...), but will it work under any other compiler?

Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:13214 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:4686
From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: ZOO/ZIP/ARC/LZH
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:52:55 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <8eck4=200awJAJJIFk@andrew.cmu.edu> sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier) writes:
>
>You can use different weighting for the importance of speed 
>compared to size ! Of course, LHarc is the worse if time is important
>as it always uses a slow but quite efficient algo.
>If size is more important, on the other hand, it will be 2nd !

   At least to me, compression is the important thing.  It may take a
-little- longer to compress or decompress a file, but when you are
downloading it long distance or off one of the services (like GEnie) then
the compression saves you some money (particularly over the long run).

					Robert Anisko
					anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com
					R.ANISKO
					Fnet 410