HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dws@cseg03.uark.edu (David W. Summers)
Subject: Re: Discussion: FS tree for large packages
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:26:47 GMT

wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:

>jbthiel@ogicse.ogi.edu (John B. Thiel) discusses various approaches to
>where large packages should be installed.
>
>There are two approaches when deciding where programs should go during
>installation: 1) maintain compatibility with other systems and
>familiarity for users, and 2) do it "right", even if it is different
>from everybody else.
>
>There are undoubtedly a large number of people on either both side.  I
>personally lean towards the traditional approach, since it leads to
>fewer problems when porting programs, and also because putting packages
>into lots of different places leads to huge PATHs, MANPATHs, info-paths
>(for GNU info), etc.
>
>I would personally prefer to have a scheme where packages are installed
>in such a way that all installed files are logged into a database, which
>can be used during uninstallation to decide which files should be
>deleted.  I have played around with a few ideas to implement this, but
>don't have the time to make it work properly.
>
>--
>Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi  (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)


This (database) sounds like a good idea to me.

Here is another thought:

I haven't tried it yet, but SunOS has a "Translucent File System" where
multiple directories can be "stacked on top" of each other and made to
look like one directory.

Maybe something like this could be implemented and then each directory 
that has information for a certain package (bin,lib,etc, and etcetera)
could be stacked on top of or below the original file system directories?

Is this feasible?

   - David Summers
   (dws@engr.uark.edu)


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From: dsimon@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Derron Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Is there a 'lpr' type command for linux?
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:47:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'm looking for an 'lpr' command for linux.  I'm running SLS 0.98 and would
like a set of printer programs like that of SunOS 4.0.  Is there an equivalent
program available?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: 222d7 and header files
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:14:09 GMT

Larry Butler (butler@cs.tulane.edu) wrote:

[nothing]

I guess he had nothing to say...
-- 
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happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: heeb@watson.ibm.com (Hansruedi Heeb)
Subject: Re: Linux on IBM Thinkpad-700? Anybody?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:33:25 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Oct16.203750.100667@watson.ibm.com> uri@watson.ibm.com writes:
>	Could somebody please tell me whether Linux can run
>	on IBM notebooks, namely on the new Thinkpad-700 or
>	Thinkpad-700C (486SLC, Color)?

The Thinkpad-700 may be nice machines but unfortunately they
have a microchannel, so you are out of luck. Linux would probably
run on the Thinkpad-300 though.

Hansruedi

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tim.foley@rose.com (tim foley)
Subject: Questions...what else
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:16:16 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 10-12-92 12:12
 
  Ok, things are still running nicely with 0.97...too afraid to go to 
0.98 until the problems quiet down...
 
1)  When I shutdown my system, using SYNC,SYNC,SYNC, SHUTDOWN NOW...I 
get a FAILED UNMOUNT /dev/hda2 error, but everything still seems to
shutdown fine...any idea why or is this a bug (Feature :-) in 0.97.11?

2)  Could someone recommend a dial-up BBS with VERY up-to-date Linux 
files...I have called 3 from the linux bbs list and they were all 
still at 0.96 and 0.97 with very little utils etc.  This gets 
expensive to call so I want to find a good system.
 
3)  Where can I get a working PS command?  (The one I have is from the
SLS I think, but it keeps giving a BAD /etc/system MAGIC NUMBER, how 
do I go about fixing this?
 
4)  How do you restart a halted job?  
 
5)  Anyone have SAIL available on a dial-up bbs?
 
6)  Anyone have BSD-EMPIRE 1.1 or greater on a dial-up bbs?
 
7)  Will X-windows run on a VGA WONDER with 512K and will it run on a
    laptop with just standard VGA (Cirrus Chip)?
 
8)  Anyone know of a dial-up bbs with a large selection of sources for 
multi-player games and games in general?
 
 
 
                                            Thanks
                                                Tim

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From: ramesh@utdallas.edu (R. Ramesh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Booting 0.98 solved - BEWARE of Shoelace!!??#$**
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:44:04 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas


All those folks still using shoelace, get rid of it. With shoelace I could not
boot my 0.98pl1 kernel. But when I switched to Lilo (thanks hlu) everyting is
fine. I suspect shoelace cannot handle large kernels (after all it is built
with minix in mind)

I know some else had problems with 0.98pl1 kernel also and that is the main
reason I am posting this.

Ramesh
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: thssgxd@iitmax.iit.edu (Gautam Das)
Subject: Xega - Where to find.
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:43:09 GMT

I am posting this to assist a couple individuals who sent me mail,
inquiring where they can find Xega. I am sorry I could not reply
to them via mail as I accidentally deleted the mail messages. So
I hope you guys are reading News this week.

Xega is available at tsx-11.mit.edu under /pub/linux/ALPHA/Xega.


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alawrenc@sobeco.com (a.lawrence)
Subject: Re: Use of zip instead of compress
Reply-To: alawrenc@sobeco.com
Organization: Lawrence & Assc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 03:54:48 GMT

In <1992Oct14.200145.17822@muddcs.claremont.edu> jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:

>>lha		Pro:  Very good compression (better than 'zip').

>Um, I think the newest InfoZIP zip/unzip beats LHA on compression.
>Anyone have some statistics?  (Sorry, comp.compression was one of the
>casualties in my .newsrc when I realized I read way too much news.  :)


I don't have the exact numbers any more, but tests I ran under MS-DOS
when ZIP-1.9/UNZIP-5.0 where first released showed about a 10% 
improvement of PKZIP 1.1 and a 5 to 10% improvement over LHA and ARJ.
All test done with the default compression method.  Time wise only
PKZIP was faster.

Previous postings have repeately said ZIP does not handle permissions.
This is not true.  When I use zip-1.9 to compress files in one directory
and then expanded them somewhere else, they are restored with the original
permissions.
-- 
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=========================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell)
Subject: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Home for Three Headed Canines
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:00:10 +0000

After reading this months copy of Byte (October) Windows NT looks more like
unix with a Windows API all the time

anthony

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: eichin@athena.mit.edu (Mark W. Eichin)
Subject: Re: SLS gcc 2.2.2d dies building kernel...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:38:43 GMT

A good thing gets better. The updates to SLS do polish things up a
bit... 
	As for not being able to compile the kernel: sure enough, when
I tried to do it again, it got further (recompiled namei fine, then
died on fat.c.) After three tries it went to completion... So, I did a
make clean, and another make -- and it all built fine. (So much for
being able to reproduce the problem...) Someone suggested that emacs
might be the problem, since they had had a number of people install
and go with no problem, but they just cd'd there and did make and had
it work. Well, when it built right it was still inside emacs... I'll
just have to keep an eye on things for now.
	Little bug in SLS: rc.net is in /etc, but /etc/rc.local looks
for it in /usr/etc/inet/rc.net. Also, while xinit didn't work with the
normal SLS kernel, when I built one with networking turned on it
worked fine... if that's the case, shouldn't net/* be turned on in the
main release?
	Thanks for all your help...
				_Mark_ <eichin@athena.mit.edu>
				MIT Student Information Processing Board
				Cygnus Support <eichin@cygnus.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tep@cseg02.uark.edu (Tim Peoples)
Subject: Re: Dos Emulator: PAUSE (dir/p) fixed
Reply-To: tep@engr.uark.edu
Organization: University of Arkansas
Organiztion: University of Arkansas, Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:10:12 GMT

chad@src.umd.edu (R Michael McMahon) writes:

>	Those of you using the DOS emulator have noticed that commands
>which use the DOS PAUSE routine crash the process. A simple 1 line patch
>to emu.c can solve this problem:
>
>in ms_dos() add		case 0: /* divide by 0 */  break;
>
>
>	After enabling debugging and watching a simple PAUSE command 
>result in INT 0 being called, I decided to investigate. After an hour
>of tracing through COMMAND.COM with CodeView, I found the following
>code:
>
>	MOV	AX,0c08		<- no problem: standard DOS keyboard
>	INT	21		   flush/wait for keypress sequence
>	MOV	AX,0c00		<- what? Call interrupt 0? Thats a 
>	INT	21		   floating point/divide by 0 routine!
>

[ Discussion of INT 0 deleted ]

   From what you supplied above, this is not INT zero but FUNCTION
zero if INT 21.  Advanced MSDOS Programming from Microsoft Press
states:

   Int 21H
   Function 00H
   Terminate process

   I don't know why it's there but it's deffinately not a divide
by zero interrupt call.

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| Dept. of Computer Systems Engineering| of simms and sockets and semaphores |
| University of Arkansas, Fayetteville | of processes and pings....          |
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AST Fourports?
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:06:26 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Oct6.220043.814@athena.mit.edu>, rchen@sfu.ca writes:

| Are there any other boards that are compatible with the AST Fourport?

  Yes, there are lots of clones.

| What should an AST Fourport set me back.  I have found them here in
| Vancouver for CAN $595 (around US $475).  They call it an
| AST Fourport/AT Plus.  Is that what I want?  I heard that the
| cards were cheap ($600 seems a bit much for a few UARTS).  I
| have also found a board called a Bocaboard/4 for $239.  They
| are from Boca Research (never heard of them).  That sounds more
| like it, but will it run with Linux?

  Still miles too high. Here's a source (I'm just cutting a note someone
sent me).
================================================================
Date	9/2/92
Subject	Thanks! RE>>Cheap 4,8 port 
From	ron
To	Karl Bunch, bill davidsen, Steve Nuchia, Aubrey Soper, Jerry Wallace

        Reply to:   Thanks! RE>>Cheap 4,8 port 16550AFN 
Dear Everyone who responded to above query:

Thank you for your very valuable help! I've purchased an AST 4 port clone
from Altex Electronics (San Antonio, TX 1-800/531-5369) for $75. I purchased
some NS16550AFN chips (actually, my electronics distributor said that they
have been replaced with part #  PC16550CN, have you guys heard of this?) for
about $9 apiece and I'm off and installing.
================================================================

This is about what I paid for my real AST when they were on close-out.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Confused! And I haven't even started!
Originator: cs911461@a01.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:53:55 GMT




Greetings LinuxLand,


I'm new to this group (though I have read the FAQs) but I have a
question which I find is difficult to answer.

A while ago, I got the SLS disks from MIT.  That was easy enough. I
then get all my cash together and ordered a monster machine, specifically
for use with Linux.

Please note that I haven't installed anything as of yet because I need
to be sure of a few things before I proceed.  These are:

1) is a bus mouse recommended?  will a good ol' serial mouse do?
2) how does Xfree86 fit into the equation?
3) will I be able to run X in 1024x768 (Trident)?
4) assuming 520Mb total disk space, what would be a good amount to
   partition for Linux (I'm also using OS/2)?
5) how and how often should up update the system?

I'm sure there is no shortage of newbies pestering everyone in this
newsgroup.  For this, I would like to apologise in advance.  For any
answers/suggestions to any number of the above, I would likewise offer
my sincere gratitude.


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: "L. Kunz" <EL204%DHAFEU11.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: TCP/IP and X
Reply-To: EL204%DHAFEU11.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:55:54 GMT

Hi,
somebody asks about running X-Windows and TCP/IP together
with some other machines in one net.

I had successfully managed to get X-Windows and TCP/IP running
on my PC. The machine was connected with 2 SUNs via Ethernet.
I started  rsh hostxx "/usr/openwin/bin/xcalc -display myhost:0",
and the xcalc-process was running on the sun, building the
window on my linux-pc.
The same way i managed to start a Layout-Program on the sun.
I think, its great!!!!!

lket

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: problems with xman
Keywords: X xwindows xman
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:24:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.145354.17674@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> hayes@cpsin2.cps.msu.edu (Hayes John H) writes:
>Can anybody tell me where to find neqn, and what it does?
>
>Just trying to get it all put together.
>
>Thanks, John Hayes

If you have geqn, just create a symbolic link to it and name the file
neqn.


Wen-Chun
From: cummings@bbird8.prime.com (Kevin Cummings)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Black & white X:  how?
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:22:43 GMT
Reply-To: cummings@bbird8.prime.com (Kevin Cummings)
Organization: Prime Computer

In article <1862@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, tucker@yuppie.enet.dec.com (David Tucker) writes:
|> 
|> Now I have X v1.1 going but it doesn't seem any faster than v0.1.
|> 
|> I don't like color.  How can I get it to run in black & white?

I changed the symbolic link /usr/X386/bin/X so that it points to X386mono instead of X386.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fmn@nevada.edu (FRANK NEEDHAM)
Subject: Linux w/486
Keywords: Linux on the 486
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:27:34 GMT

A few things might need to be said here, this is my first post and I am a re-
latively new computer user. Thanks for being patient with any blunders made.
I did do a lot of FAQ and README reading before contacting anyone (thanks Lars)
about posting on the net for obvious reasons.

My 386 got sold the other day because for some time now the thoughts of what it
would be like to have a very quick system with adequate Hd space has been con-
cerning me. Once my mind was made up, the possibilities of different configur-
ations that one could build with the 486 began...

There has been a lot of discussion about various components and how well they
work individually, but what about building a system from the start, based on
the 486 and using Linus as the OS? I'm way behind the curve on this, but still,
there are many who could benefit from the info (especially me, :-) ). Would 
those of you who have done this or are thinking about it, mail or post?

My preliminary thoughts about putting together such a system are not very de-
tailed yet. Some ideas are; 486-50, large monitor (over 17"), 300 mb HD, at
least 8mb RAM, a supported video card, mouse, CD, laser printer, etc. As to 
what brands and spec details, these haven't been decided yet. Anyone caring to
participate in configuring this hardware is welcome.

thanks,
-frank
fmn@redrock.nevada.edu
From: moyerg@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (gary a moyer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: swap partition in an extended partition..  Can it be done?
Date: 10 Oct 92 05:00:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6201

I have failed miserably at trying to create a swap partition in
an extended partition.  Here's my situation:
/dev/hda1  20M
/dev/hda2  20M
/dev/hda3  64M

I have a 120M hd, and would like to use all of it.  What I tried
to do is create an extended partition underneath in slot 4, use
4M for swap (Linux/minix fs), and use the other 16M for something.
However, mkswap will not let "format" the 4M partition.

Any hints, suggestions, flames, help??

Thanks.

-g.m.

==
  Gary Moyer
  moyerg@cs.pdx.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: donadio@orville.psu.edu (Beaker)
Subject: KCL
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 01:31:47 GMT

Has anyone made an attempt to port KCL/AKCL to Linux?  I tried and the 
make puked magnificantly.  I tried to edit the makefile and headers,
but nothing seemed to work.  I got clisp compiled, but I would like to
get KCL working because it is used for a class here at PSU.

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-----------------------| peace of mind, is waiting there--And the time will
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donadio@wilbur.psu.edu | within you and without you.  --George Harrison
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kurt.Bond@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Kurt Bond)
Subject: Which Linux Distribution is closest to Complete Source Distribution
Organization: None
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:15:29 GMT

Which of the major Linux distributions comes the closest to being both 
Complete (having just about everthing you'd expect to get with a unix)
and Having all the source code for everything that is part of that 
distribution?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com (Kevin Routh)
Subject: Re: Another SLS problem(?)...
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:14:27 GMT

I good friend of mine of sent me the answer to my lilo question.  Here
it is...

} Subject: Re: Another SLS problem(?)...
}
} I saw a post the other day that said that shoelace did NOT work with
} 0.98 SLS.  You will probably be better off in the long run putting your
} time into figuring out LILO. Do you have documentation for LILO? Someone
} said that it was ponderous and took quite a bit of time to read but that
} it was very helpful. Is it in SLS? If not I think that it is on tsx-11
} under:
}
}    /pub/linux/ALPHA/lilo/lilo.5.ps.Z

I hope this helps someone else!  LLL (Long Live Linux).
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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Uncompress for DOS (ugh)
Date: 14 Oct 92 07:29:49 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

krus@cs.concordia.ca (Mike Krus) writes:

> In article <718937259.F00072@remote.halcyon.com> Eric.Eskam@f234.n209.z1.fido
> >can anyone point out some SPECIFIC places to find uncompress/compress
> >for DOS?
> there's a program called comp430d.zip which does that. But I don't rember
> exactly where to find it. You'll have to use archie for that. If you really
> can't find it just mail me and I'll mail you a copy.

The zipfile which contains waffle (waf165.zip) a PC-based news and mail
uucp bbs systems contains both a 12 and 16 bit compress for dos --as well as 
a couple of other things people may find useful.

You may ftp it from wuarchive, simtel, and garbo.

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:52:00 EDT
From: <PJM104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X and Diamond Speedstar 24X

   I have been trying (without success) to get X running in 1024x768
with the Diamond SpeedStar 24X VGA card.  It works correctly in 640x480
mode, and I did at one point come up with a set of dot-clocks that ran
it in 800x600 mode (which I have subsequently lost :().  However, in
1024x768 mode the server sort of works, but everything is sort of "fuzzy".
There is a moving distortion on every line (some pixels seem to get stretched
out randomly).  This seems to worsen with access to video memory.  The
card and monitor work fine under Windows in 1024x768 (non-interlaced).
I would appreciate any information about running X on the 24X that
anyone has.  Thanks in advance.
---
Paul J. Messmer              messmer@cs.psu.edu,  pjm104@psuvm.psu.edu