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From: jjlamastra@happy.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: More BERMANISMS!! 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:02:55 MDT

In article <1992Aug19.183059.21564@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>, hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
> (Tim Bradley) so succintly writes:
>>> Eric Dieniemy scored a TD.
>>       ^^^^^^^^
> 
> Ahhh, yes.  Yet another.
> 
> 
>    Reggie "Foghorn" Langhorne
>    Vince Workman "my way back to you, babe"
>    Thermal Thomas
>    Brad "Colonel" Muster "who did it in the Laboratory with a lead pipe"
>    Scott "Won't you let me take you on a" Secules
>    "Who Framed" Roger Ruzek
>    Steve "I got you babe" Bono
>>  Eric "Sleeping with" Bieniemy.
>>						- Tim
> 
> Come on all you net holdouts.  Its time to get into camp with those
> favorite Bermanisms.
> 
> -- 
> *************************************************************************
> GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!      | "That haircut of yours might be city-style,
> GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!      |  but your heart is shaped like a bowl."
> James Clyde     LSU '91   |             -- Briscoe Darlin, T.A.G.S.



	This is mine, not Berman's:

	Washington Redskins defensive end:

		Fred "Diff'rent" Stokes

JL
CU

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From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: Ty Detmer and other Heisman winners
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:02:06 GMT
Keywords: n

>I would like a list of Heisman trophy winners and the teams they play on.
>Only active players would be nice.  All I can think of is the following:
>
>     Desmond Howard      Washington  (??????)
>     Hershel Walker      Philadelphia
>     Marcus Allen        Raiders
>     Ron Brown           Raiders
>     Ty Detmer           ????????
 
How about... 
      Barry Sanders       Detroit 
      Andre Ware          Detroit 
      Vinnie Tesaverrde   Tampa Bay
      Doug Flutie         Toronto Argos...(CFL)
      George Rodgers      Washington?????
      Mike Rozier 	  Atlanta??????
       
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     __                __               Christopher Gattuso
    / /\              / /\
   / / /             / / /              gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com
  / / /             / / / __            Motorola, Inc.
 / / /  hristopher / / / / /\ attuso    Schaumburg, Illinois
/_/ /     __      /_/ / /_/  \
\ \ \    / /\     \ \ \ \_\/\ \         "It is the hardest dive in the
 \ \ \  / / /      \ \ \  / / /          Olympics:  half-gainer, no
  \ \ \/ / /        \ \ \/ / /           brainer!!!"
   \ \ \/ /          \ \ \/ /                   - Jerry Seinfeld, refering
    \ \  /            \ \  /                        to Greg Lougainis in
     \_\/              \_\/                         the 1988 Olympics
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Organization: University Relations - Diane, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:03:52 -0400 
From: Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Trade Rumors
	<23520@oasys.dt.navy.mil>

How about this one....

Ken O'Brien to the Chargers?

Todd
From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Elway's backup?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:08:30 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

In article <15280123@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>
keithg@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson) writes:
 
>
>
>
>        Just read in the paper that the Broncos cut Steve Peuller.
>        I realize he wasn't much, but what does that leave Denver
>        with? Maddox and Moore(or Lee, whatever his name is)?
>        With Elway getting on in years and more susceptible to
>        injury, it seems a bit risky going without a veteran
>        backup.
>
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 
It is risky, but barring a trade (unlikely), Moore will be the backup
with Maddox third.  There are no other quarterbacks in camp.  Moore is
basically a rookie, buy has played much better than Pelleur.  By all
accounts, Pelleur simply stunk.  He fumbled numerous snaps from center,
completed far less than half his passes, and often hung the receivers
out to dry.  Rumor had it that the receivers had no confidence in him,
and did not want him on the team.
 
Which is better?  An inexperienced QB who looks good, or an experienced
QB who is bad?  I guess we'll find out if Elway gets hurt.
 
By the way, Elway's shoulder seems fine.  He has uncorked some
on-the-money 65-yarders in camp.
 
Jim McMaster
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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,rec.sport.football.misc
Subject: Re: Highest paid player
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:11:22 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

>After all this talk about Rypien now being the second highest paid
>player,
>
>  Who is the highest paid player?

Miami's Dan Marino, who makes about $4.4 million per season.


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From: andy@misha.central.sun.com (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BUCKLEY SIGNS!!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:18:42 GMT
Reply-To: andy@misha.central.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: misha.central.sun.com

In article 29100@uwm.edu, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>>
>>Sounds like a pretty smart guy to me.
>>
>  Wouldn't be too smart though if the Pack retracted its offer and he
>  missed out on some big bonus bucks. Sure, it's doubtful that would
>  happen, but if GB decided to be hardasses and let him give baseball
>  a shot (which will probably never happen since 21-year-old "projects"
>  rarely make the bigs, especially guys with his speed that hit only 
>  .344 in high school and about .150 in college) he'd be out some big
>  bucks at least for a year.

Yup,

The Packers would also be out the #5 draft choice.  They will cave in before
he has to.  

Also,  remeber,  Bo was not considered a stellar baseball prospect,  nor
was Deon.  However,  both of them turned into very solid major leaguers.  



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From: jacobson@arcturus.tmc.edu (douglas jacobson GR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Jets sign O'Brien
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:45:52 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.


I just heard that the Jet's have signed Ken O'Brien to 2 1-year
contracts (whatever that means).  No details were given.

O'Brien should be in camp on Wednesday, but it wasn't known if he
would play against the Giants on Saturday.

With Nagle and O'Brien now battling for the starting job, the next 2
1/2 weeks should be interesting.  Nagle is obviously in the lead right
now, but we'll see what happens.

GO JETS! Kick some Giant ass!

--
Douglas Jacobson		             __o                  GO METS!
jacobson@bucknell.edu                      `\_<,                  GO JETS!
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From: m_bellor@csc32.enet.dec.com (Micheal M Bellor - Digital Customer Support Center (800) 525-6570)
Subject: Re: A good laugh for Fin fans
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:17:23 GMT


In article <1992Aug19.135308.19470@colorado.edu>, davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes...
>In article <1992Aug17.163837.16454@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.171139.2239@cs.ucf.edu> tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
>>>Guess who is injured and sitting on the bench? Guess which RB can't
>>>play much yet? 
>>>
>>>Sammie Smith!!! I can hardly stand it! What a hoot. How do you like
>>>him Denver?
>>>
>>>Tony (go new england) Travaglini
>>>tech@cs.ucf.edu
>>
>>I wouldn't start the laughter track just yet Tony, looks like Mark Higgs and
>>Bobby Humphrey both got dinged in the Denver game this weekend. Don't know
>>the extent of the injuries yet, I just caught a glimpse on Sports Center.
> 
>Just sore ribs.  He got smashed in the back pretty good.
> 

Dennis Smith gave Bobby a real good wake up call on his first carry, funny
thing is that Bobby left the game real quick after that. You don't think
there is any hard feelings from former teammates, do you???  It looked like
Dennis was waiting for Bobby to get the call, I think Bobby found out why
Dennis has been to a few Pro Bowls!

Sasquatch


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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: 2pt conversion (was Re: Stupid rules)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:35:26 GMT

In article <92233.153040ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
> In article <BtAKCK.2M2@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
> (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper) says:
> >Why the debate about OT versus 2-pt conversion? Why are they mutually
> >exclusive in the eyes of many of you? What would be wrong with having both?
> 
>      I guess it's because if there were overtime, there wouldn't be many
> 2-point conversions attempted.
>      I know that there are other occasions to use the two-point conversion,
> such as when you're losing by two before the conversion, but that doesn't
> seem to happen all that frequently...

Not that frequently?  There are numerous occasions where a missed PAT
in the beginning of the game has come back to haunt a team at the end
of the game.  The 2-point conversion allows a team to make up for a
missed PAT.  Besides there is nothing more boring that a PAT.  At least
a 2-point conversion is football.


Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman)
Subject: Re: holdouts
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:40:34 GMT

In article <20705@optima.cs.arizona.edu> dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
>
>Obviously all fans hate holdouts when it involves their team.
>
>My question is, why don't the owners just refuse to give in?  As long
>as they have the draft (illegal as it is, most likely), a player can't
>go anywhere else for a year.  So if the owners just say, ok, you sign
>or forget it, the player would sign, more often than not.  Otherwise
>the player is sacrificing 1 million or more (1st rounders) for the year,
>and will certainly be drafted lower the next year.  So they will lose
>even more money because of the contract offer in a lower draft slot.
>Given the few years the average player plays, they can't afford to sit
>out and forfeit one year.
>
>--dave

  If you ask the rookie holdouts from years past, you would find out
  that alot of them wish they had gotten into training camp on time
  and contribute than holding out for the big bucks and not getting
  to play very much. (ie. If they sign for a little less and get into
  camp on time, they would learn more and improve to the point where they
  would get a good amount of playing time.  Otherwise, they lose most of
  their first year, piss off the coaches and won't get to play much)    

  Obviously, this does not affect all rookies.

  Tim.


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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Robbie Keen
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 02:15:51 GMT

Several far-flung 49er fans had asked about Robbie Keen's status this year.
The 49ers had been looking at him to help with their woeful kicking game.
Unfortunately, he was released on Tuesday. I remember him being an
excellent kicker at Bezerkley (which irritated me no end, being a
Stanford man myself), so I was surprised that he didn't catch on with the
49ers. All I can say is that he must have kicked pretty poorly in practice
if he couldn't even beat out Hatcher, Prokop, and Cofer.

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Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:43:38 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

This seems pretty hokey to me.  Why not just play an extra 5 or 10
minutes, like in basketball?

Daniel Welch
From: syang@rossini.eng.uci.edu (Guess)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dallas Cowboys
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:18:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Irvine

Who's still holding out on Dallas Cowboys team?
Is M. Irvin going to report to camp soon?
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From: martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Packer Update
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:30:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.190304.20977@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>In article <55702@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>, rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes...

>>In article <1992Aug14.141647.29475@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>>>Mandarich is in the hospital today being examined for some mysterious 
>>>ailment (Waiver-itis maybe?).  To be fair, if he is sick it could 
>>>account his even worse than usual showing.

>>According to the morning paper, Mandarich is having headaches due to a 
>>concussion he got in the last pre-season game, so he's not sick, just
>>injured.

>I think there's more to it than this.  He's been complaining of 
>weakness and weightloss for a weeks.  Earlier this week he got tested 
>for mono.  Course, he could be making it all up.

A couple days ago the "Columbus Dispatch" reported that Mandarich had
been admitted to the hospital for a thyroid condition.  I assume he
didn't play in today's 24-7 loss to the Jets.

How bad did the Pack look?
-- 
"Take out the work 'Quayle' and insert the word 'Bush' wherever it
appears, and that's the crap I took for eight years.  Wimp.
Sycophant.  Lap dog.  Poop.  Lightweight.  Boob.  Squirrel.  Asshole.
George Bush."        -- George Herbert Walker Bush.
From: martens@kingkong.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BUCKLEY SIGNS!!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:42:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Aug20.234225.29625
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <55799@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:

	[ ... ]

>on baseball. If the Pack wants him, sign him , if not trade his rights
>or they might just find themselves without him for a full year while
>he plays baseball(which will most likely mean a new contract worth 
>more money).

I'm sure GB will sign him if he's reasonable.  If he continues to be
an asshole, he'll sit out football this year.
-- 
	If George Bush is really so excited about his family,
	how come Neil didn't get to speak?

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Raider News???
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:23:49 GMT

In article <162tq5INNe16@agate.berkeley.edu> max@ocf.berkeley.edu (Fude Max Chuang) writes:
>Hi, I'm looking for any news on the Raiders, esp. any holdouts, how
>newcomers are doing, etc..  I am dying out here with only the
>pathetic excuse for a newspaper S.F. Chronicle for news, so ANY help
>would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Try the San Jose Mercury News, they occasionally have news of other teams, more Raiders
than any others. Usually they'll devote several pages to 9er stories and at least a
half page to the Raiders games. Hope this helps.

John T.
-- 
My opinions only, if you don't like `em don't read `em. 
Hurricanes and Dolphins, my favorite weather phenomena and aquatic mammals, oh
and also my favorite football teams. And remember to always genuflect in Shula's
presence and to kiss his Super Bowl Rings. .........John "Dolphinatic" Turman
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: POOL - Picks for Preseason Week #4 - DUE FRIDAY!! (REPOST)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:39:53 GMT

Preseason Week 4
----------------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 5 different games.

This form is due at 5pm PDT (12MID GMT (Sat)) on Friday, Aug 21.  NO EXCEPTIONS!

Do not remove anything below this line!

 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] San Francisco		[ ] San Diego
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[  ] [ ] NY Giants		[ ] NY Jets
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Niners tip Deadskins!
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:00:12 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Aug17.204143.8691@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>, marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes...

>>>- Steve Young played the first half and looked so-so;  Steve Bono
>>>  played the second half and looked great.  I'm getting close to
>>>  wanting Bono as #2 on the depth chart.
>>
>>Remember that Young was going against the Skins 1st-team defense, while
>>Bono was up against the second and third stringers.
> 
>I hear this kind of statement made all the time and I'm not sure how
>significant it is. Don't forget that Bono also had the second and
>third string OL in front of him as well as having the second and
>third string receivers to throw to.

What you've got to do in watching a preseason game is try to focus on 
individual players - especially in the 2nd half when both teams start 
making lots of substitutions.  The stats of a QB who plays in the 2nd 
half are almost meaningless.  What you have to pay attention to is 
how accurately he's throwing, whether he's finding his 2nd or 3rd man, 
if he runs when he has to but not when he doesn't have to, stuff like 
that.

John G. Heim                                 Email:  heim@macc.wisc.edu

"There are three things that are important to every man in this room.  
 His religion, his family, and the Green Bay Packers, in that order"
                   - Vince Lombardi as quoted by Jerry Kramer
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From: imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper)
Subject: Re: Elway's backup?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:37:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.213616.17124@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
>In article <1684AAABF.MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com writes:
>>In article <15280123@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>
>>keithg@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Keith Glasson) writes:
>>>
>>>        Just read in the paper that the Broncos cut Steve Peuller.
>>>        I realize he wasn't much, but what does that leave Denver
>>>        with? Maddox and Moore(or Lee, whatever his name is)?
>>>        With Elway getting on in years and more susceptible to
>>>        injury, it seems a bit risky going without a veteran
>>>        backup.
>> 
>>It is risky, but barring a trade (unlikely), Moore will be the backup
>>with Maddox third.  There are no other quarterbacks in camp.  Moore is
>>basically a rookie, buy has played much better than Pelleur.  By all
>>accounts, Pelleur simply stunk.  He fumbled numerous snaps from center,
>>completed far less than half his passes, and often hung the receivers
>>out to dry.  Rumor had it that the receivers had no confidence in him,
>>and did not want him on the team.
>> 
>>Which is better?  An inexperienced QB who looks good, or an experienced
>>QB who is bad?  I guess we'll find out if Elway gets hurt.
>> 
>>By the way, Elway's shoulder seems fine.  He has uncorked some
>>on-the-money 65-yarders in camp.
>> 
>>Jim McMaster
>
>Just my 2c again...to say that Moore is basically a rookie is not really
>accurate.  I mean, Kubiak didn't play much more than Moore has, but no one
>said we had a rookie backup with him on the team.  Moore was with the team
>all last year and was on a world league team all summer.  True, he doesn't
>have a lot of regular-season playing time, but neither did Kubiak.  Moore
>has proved he does not play like a rookie.
>-- 
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>David Rex Wood -- davewood@cs.colorado.edu -- University of Colorado at Boulder
>  BRONCOS!!        R.S.F.P. Internet Football Pool Organizer        BRONCOS!!
>               Owner, Boulder Houlders --- Owner, Colorado 14ers

Moore was drafted in 1991, didn't play at all for the Broncos last year, and
played very little in the WLAF this spring. Kubiak, on the other hand, was with
the Broncos as Elway's backup for about ten years, and played sparingly 
throughout. He even started a couple of games two or three years ago, and played
in the AFC championship last year. Certainly, Moore has looked great in 
pre-season, but to compare his NFL experience to Kubiak's is ludicrous.

Peter Brown
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