From: devesh@cs.utexas.edu (Devesh Sudhakar Khatu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Fetish="Rice Queen" (was Re: Inter-racial dating
Date: 21 Dec 1992 03:02:49 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1glqj2INNpht@male.EBay.Sun.COM>  (defensio libertatis) writes:
> 
> Good point. A gay white guy who dates Asian guys exclusively ("Rice Queen") should
> be differentiated IMMEDIATELY from gay white guys who date all kinds of men
> and who happen to date an Asian guy.

I missed the original article, and hence the "point" that was being made,
but I do not see any reason for differentiation. I date Asian guys because I
find them more attractive than any other racial/ethnic group; that does not
mean that I am racist, as I have gay friends from other races/ethnicities. 
While I do not think it is relevant to the thread being discussed here, I
should mention though that I am Asian myself, and technically not a "Rice
Queen" (I think the correct term is "Sticky Rice" ?! :-)). But I am from
India and hence probably do not belong to the "Rice Boy" category, which 
usually is identified with east Asians, and hence the term "Rice Queen"
would fit me just as well :-) No, I don't believe in categorization, but this
is for those who insist..

> Personally, I avoid "Rice Queens" for a number of reasons. Many tend to have
> over-idealized views of Asian men (e.g. "Asian guys are smooth, sleek, boyish,
> exotic, can't get enough of older white men, [blah, blah, blah]" --well you get my drift, sound familiar?) Many tend to look for younger "boys", often recent
> emigres or aliens from Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia...I don't want to give
> the impression these "Rice Queens" are creeps on the order of being "Mail Order
> Daddies" but I just see their reasons for seeking out Asian men as an indication 
> of their personal insecurity. 

I have to disagree. While it is true that most "Rice Queens" do have
stereotyped images of Asians (some of which are true, you can't deny
physical characteristics :-)), saying that they seek Asians because of personal
insecurities is not quite true. Besides finding east Asians physically
attractive, I also date Asians because I identify with the culture and
experiences, and usually find them above average intellectually and 
educationally (at least those who have immigrated here). And this
seems to be true with most of the "Rice Queens" that I know too.


> Many of the relationships I have seen between "Rice Queens" and Asian guys I would 
> find too confining--the Asian guy always seems to be the more "feminine", emotionally, culturally disadvantaged (e.g. language barrier, less educated) of the two and more likely to be the one hurt if the "marriage" breaks up. 

This is true, but unfortunately the "Rice Boys" seem to seek it as much as
the "Rice Queens". There seems to be a large proportion of the gay Asian 
community which is looking for white "Daddies" to bring them upto speed on
American culture, language, etc. 
 
> -M. Aurelius Insularum
> 

Devesh 
(A "Rice Queen" :-))

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