From: "richard mohammed" <richard.mohammed@canrem.com>
Subject: nlnet access/price inf
Reply-To: "richard mohammed" <richard.mohammed@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:26:56 EST

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    Subject: nlnet access/price info

[Quoting Richard Mohammed, on Jan  3,  4:43, in "nlnet access/price i ..."]

> Would you be able translate that letter into English or provide me with
> a quick summary of what it says.

OK,
-- Ted

Info about NLnet.

The Stichting NLnet is founded by the NLUUG to provide networking
service to its members. A "stichting" is a comon legal construct in
The Netherlands for a non-profit foundation.

NLnet currently has 317 subscribers. Our subscribers are mainly
organizations (ranging from small to large organizations), but we
also connect an increasing number of individuals lately.

The NLnet backbone consists of a Sun 4/670, a cisco router, an
Annex-III terminalserver and two modembanks, one equiped with PEP,
the other with V.32bis modems.
The NLnet backbone is housed at CWI, Amsterdam.

The NLnet prices are based on 3 kinds of connections:
1. Dial-up connection without interactive connectivety outside
   the NLnet backbone (i.e. only mail, news, archive, etc service).
2. InterEUnet with a Dial-up connection.
3. InterEUnet with a permanent connection.

For 1, we maintain a low entry cost, and bill additionally for
a news subscription, outgoing mail, and excessive connect-time.
For outgoing mail, the price per KB is decreased strongly when
much mail is sent. Usually the subscriber connects via UUCP,
but Dial-Up SLIP/PPP is also possible. There is no charge on
incoming mail, or on news or archive service traffic. There is
also an automatic FTP service available without charge.

For 2, we provide a registered IP-number with international access,
and we use a fixed price, based upon subscribed usage of non-NLnet
infrastructure. Mail, news, archive servce, etc is included.
In addition to the fixed price we bill for non-NLnet traffic that
exceeds the subscribed to amount and for excessive connect-time.
Connection is via SLIP or PPP, but running UUCP (f.i. over TCP/IP)
additionally to receive queued mail and compressed news batches is
possible (and adviced) without charge.

For 3, we also use fixed prices for subscribed usage of non-NLnet
infrastructure. In addition we bill for non-NLnet traffic that
exceeds the subscribed to amount. To keep the price as low as
possible, we leave the connection up to the NLnet router (for a
cisco-cisco connection) or terminalserver (for SLIP/PPP) to the
responsibility of the subscriber and only ask a one-time fee for
the use of a port on the NLnet router.
The subscriber is expected to receive and deliver their mail via
SMTP as much as possible. News is usually provided via NNTP.
NLnet further provides secondary nameservice, etc.

For 1993 we have the following prices:
  Dial-Up connections without InterEUnet:

   Standard subscription:              f     30,- (XEU 13, $ 18) per month
   News subscription:                  f     30,- (XEU 13, $ 18) per month
   Outgoing mail within NL (less than) f      0,01 (XEU 0.004, $ 0.006) per KB
        within Europe      (less than) f      0,12 (XEU 0.05, $ 0.07) per KB
        outside Europe     (less than) f      0,16 (XEU 0.07, $ 0.09) per KB
   Connecttime (over 20 h/month)       f      2,50 (XEU 1.08, $ 1.47) per hour

  InterEUnet connections, one-time fees:
   Dial-Up connection                  f      0,-
   Leased-line with SLIP               f   1000,- (XEU 434, $ 588) one time
   Leased line with cisco < 64 kbps    f   2000,- (XEU 870, $ 1176) one time
   Leased line with cisco >= 64 kbps   f   4000,- (XEU 1740, $ 2352) one time

 InterEUnet classes, based upon monthly traffic outside NLnet:
   Less than   25 MB                  f    200,- (XEU 87, $117) per month
   Less than  100 MB                  f    300,- (XEU 130, $176) per month
   Less than  250 MB                  f    500,- (XEU 217, $294) per month
   Less than  500 MB                  f    750,- (XEU 326, $441) per month
   Less than 1000 MB                  f   1250,- (XEU 543, $735) per month
   Less than 2000 MB                  f   2000,- (XEU 870, $1176) per month
   Over      2000 MB per month        f      1,- (XEU 0.43, $.58) per MB

   Excess non-NLnet traffic           f      2,50  (XEU 1.08, $1.47) per MB

For connection-type 1, we adjust the outgoing mailprices according to the
following formula:
  kb tariff = max.tariff * 10000  * ln ( 1 + kB volume / 10000 )
The volume is the three month volume.
This means that for a large amount of mail the price per kB
decreases very rapidly:

________________________________________________________________________________
Volume     NL total    NL per kB   EU total    EU per kB World total  World p kB
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     1 kb     0.01     0.010000        0.12    0.119994        0.16    0.159992
   100 kb     1.00     0.009950       11.94    0.119404       15.92    0.159205
  1000 kb     9.53     0.009531      114.37    0.114372      152.50    0.152496
  2000 kb    18.23     0.009116      218.79    0.109393      291.71    0.145857
  3000 kb    26.24     0.008745      314.84    0.104946      419.78    0.139928
  4000 kb    33.65     0.008412      403.77    0.100942      538.36    0.134589
  5000 kb    40.55     0.008109      486.56    0.097312      648.74    0.129749
 10000 kb    69.31     0.006931      831.78    0.083178     1109.04    0.110904
 20000 kb   109.86     0.005493     1318.33    0.065917     1757.78    0.087889
 50000 kb   179.18     0.003584     2150.11    0.043002     2866.82    0.057336
100000 kb   239.79     0.002398     2877.47    0.028775     3836.63    0.038366
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