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From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Re: Attn: CAL WEENIES!!!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:38:11 GMT

crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

>Please, I need your help.  As some of you may be aware, the most hated team
>in the Pac Ten (gernerally speaking, obviously everyone has there specific
>rival) comes up to Husky Stadium this week.  

Maybe this is also the most successfull team in the Pac 10, huh Cliff?

>You all know what this means.

Yes, a game that won't be close. Huskies by 55!

>72,000+ fans will be forced to listen to that damn song about 100 times.

Dunneaux about that, not if the Huskies keep possession of the ball for
59:55 as expected...

>I know that at last year's game, the Cal Weenies came up with lyrics to
>the tune, and sang them every time U$C's band played the blasted thing.

I'm not surprised, even I get tired of the song and I'm a USC
fan... On the other hand, it does annoy the other team and its fans,
so it is achieving its purpose...

>If you would be so kind as to post them, I will try and get the Husky
>student section to sing along.  

Would these students be the same ones you were expecting to come up
with HUSKIES ROOOL!!!! posts in the coming days? Why does a fine
upstanding member of the society like yourself associate with such
characters?

>Please, in the name of good musical taste....save us!

Please, in the name of mercy, save the Treauxjans from the big, bad
Huskies!

Geaux Treauxjans!
Keep the Husky Blowout under a 50 point margin!

Serdar 

PS: Seriously, if you were to point out a weakness in the Husky team
what would it be? 


-- 
Inhabited by absurd fears,  they only discuss  the puerilities with which 
every fool is familiar, and dare not, by turning a bold hand to the human 
heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
Serdar Boztas \\ serdar@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au \\ +(61)3-565-5722 
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From: rick@seminole.b30.ingr.com (Rick Hopkins)
Subject: Re: FSU-Miami (one more opinion)
Reply-To: b11!seminole!rick@ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:13:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.173555.24906@meaddata.com>, bobj@meaddata.com (Robert Jones) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct1.145140.7854@cs.wm.edu>, djryan@ct.cs.wm.edu (David J. Ryan) writes:
|> |> 
 
|> Just out of curiousity, why does FSU care about ND?  They don't play
|> each other and haven't for years.  I don't think ND really cares one
|> way or the other about FSU, if anything ND fans root for them to beat
|> Miami.

I believe FSU will play ND in both '94 and '95.  I think the '94 game will
be @ ND and the '95 game will be @ neutral site, netexperts please confirm.

|> 
|> Does Florida State play anyone tough this year besides Miami? (Not a
|> flame, I just want to know.)

Clemson @ Clemson
Miami @ Miami (WW III)
Georgia Tech @ Atlanta (I'll be there)
Virginia @ Charlottesville
Florida @ Tallahassee (WW IV)

rick hopkins.
|> 
|> |> Dave Ryan
|> 
|> Bob Jones
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From: chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: MICH: 60 something HOUSTON:7
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 01:34:58 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

	I was going to provide a game summary, but I fell asleep by the
middle of second quarter.  I managed to catch the Michigan's fourth
string football players.  They did well!  They scored, but they let
Houstons high power run and shoot offense get seven points.  We here
at Michigan are all really bummed out!  Becsause our fourth string 
defense was not as good as we'd had hoped.  Oh well! there is always
next time.  They should probably do well against IOWA.  

	Houston's high power offense really did not look that bad!  Really!
They just forgot to move the ball and score, thats all!

Have Fun Folks.

- CHY
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Texas Tech vs. Texas A&M
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:11:34 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

Well, no amount of anti-woofing will be able to offset my friend
from Austin's fantasy! Let's just hope the Tech team that showed
up against Baylor and Wyoming doesn't decide to take this week
off so that we can keep it close!
BTW, to all the whining SMU woofers, who is tied with SMU at 
the top of the standings this week? "Maybe" SMU is the 3rd
best team in the SWC.
GO TECH!!!!
-Jeff

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From: ds4@soc12.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:45:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.230815.20234@news.nd.edu>, rszczerb@joplin.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
|> I can't wait to hear all the excuses from those arrogant Miami fans.
|> First they schedule Florida A&M and then they squesk by Arizona at home.
|> There's no way Miami even deserves to be in the top 5, much less #1.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	
|> 
|> 		- Rob

I do not even have to say any thing about you statement....it speaks for itself.

-ds4
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Organization: American Math. Society
	<1992Oct5.154146.8017@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:50:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.154146.8017@cis.ohio-state.edu> imes@swallow.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes) writes:

   >In article <1992Oct5.153548.6420@news2.cis.umn.edu> milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC)) writes:
   >>In article <ASH.92Oct5090713@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

   >[..bulk deleted..]

   >>>Only Michigan had a good game this week in the top five.  Hopefully,
   >>>several more weeks of football will clear things up a bit.  But I
   >>>doubt it.
   >>>
   >>
   >>Don't discount Tennesee. If they can beat Alabama who haven't been tested
   >>yet, they'd have a legit claim to it. They may have to do it twice. I'd 
   >>like to think otherwise, but I don't think a Michigan has a chance at 
   >>the MNC if there are any other teams with unblemished records.
   >>
   >Also, don't count out PSU.  If they win this weekend againt Miami, chances are
   >they'll be around #3 next week.  And probably end their independence with a 
   >national title...that is after OSU comes back from the abyss and beats Michigan
   >in our last game.... B-}

"beats Michigan"?  BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
HEEHEEHEEHEHEE  HAAHAHHAHAHA.  Dream on!


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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Aggie Riot (was Re: Best marching band)
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:21:50 GMT

In article <Bv9oBr.163@rice.edu>, tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder) writes:
 
> BTW -- the Stanford band may have gotten booed by a whole crowd, but have they
> ever managed to be the targets of a riot?  Then again, antagonizing an Aggie
> crowd on a day when the Aggies lose is a bad idea.  (Of course, the Aggie riot
> is also ancient history... the MOB hasn't done anything nearly as interesting
> in ages...)

Riot?  What riot?  I guess this is an old story that I've missed.  Would
someone please post the details (Tom?  Goobster??).

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 
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From: serdar@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Serdar Boztas)
Subject: Re: Washington 17, USC 10
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:33:23 GMT

mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>I wonder if perhaps the Pac 10 is about as strong as it's ever
>been.  First you've got UW.  Enough said.  Cal finished #7 last year,
>and after that fiasco against Purdue, has recovered to look capable
>of finishing around #11-15 or so.  All Stanford did was paste 33 big
>ones on ND, in South Bend at that.  It would appear that the drugs are
>wearing off at U$C (damn), UA came ever-so-close in Miami, and UCLA
>has looked very sharp until they got buzzsawwed last night.

Oh joy! Did Westwood High lose? Who were they playing? 

>There is some serious talent on the Left Coast these days.  Cal's
>team of today would have ripped through the Pac-10 of ten or twenty
>years ago.  

I think that the 1972 USC consensus national championship team would have 
ripped through the Cal of today. The Charles White Marcus Allen led late
70's early 80's teams would most probably also have beaten today's Bears.

I think the talent is more evenly distributed these days, but those were
among the best teams in the history of college football.

This is not to say that Cal doesn't have a great team today.

>Michael Zimmers  

serdar
-- 
-- 
Inhabited by absurd fears,  they only discuss  the puerilities with which 
every fool is familiar, and dare not, by turning a bold hand to the human 
heart, offer its gigantic idiosyncrasies to our views.     Sade, 'Justine'
Serdar Boztas \\ serdar@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au \\ +(61)3-565-5722 
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From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Subject: Re: Ohio State fans have a lot of excuses
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:13:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.132743.3543@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
|> This is not a flame; it is an observation.  So please, nobody take extreme
|> umbrage at this.  :^)
|> 
|> I have seen more excuses/analysis over TOSU's loss to Wisconsin than I've
|> seen for about any other game.  Why?  It seems to me the TOSU fans on the
|> net are very analytical when it comes to football, and they always have
|> some sort of an excuse for bad play.
|> 
|> How about this:  "Ohio State sucked last week".  Short, concise, and
|> accurate...
|> 

Ease up Brian, half the fun of being a fan is analysing your team. Wisconsin
beat Ohio State fair and square, they performed better than Ohio State that
day, but why. I am sure the Wisconsin coach would be the first to tell you
that Ohio State has much better talent and depth at many postions then 
Wisconsin. Analysing a game after your favorite team loses is not making
excuses, were just looking for answers.

But why did Ohio State suck?????  Inquiring minds want to know.-)
-- 
Jeff Nappi
Columbus Bell Labs
jjn@cbjjn.att.com
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From: tomd@solbourne.com (Tom Diessner)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:25:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.205051.4882@news.stolaf.edu> alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
>
>I'm not too worried about the Gophers.  BTW you must have a pretty short memory,
>because wasn't it a recent as 5-6 years ago that the Buffs went 0-whatever for
>a couple seasons in a row??  Jeez, if the wouldn't have gotten Eric Bienemy,
>your Buffs would be no-name losers today just like they were during most of the
>80's.
>
>Also, the difference between a top ten team and a winless team in the case of
>the Gophers is not a whole lot.  If you remember, CU generated 4 INT's at 
>crutial points of the game, which I give them credit for, but they also gave
>up 450 yards to a Gopher team, which the mighty Buffs defense should not have
>done against the Gophers if CU's JV team was in the game.  Also, the Gophers
>3 losses have come by a grand total of 14 points.  The only game they deserved
>to lose was against Pitt last Saturday.  I can't wait to see a team like Kansas
>State pummel CU, then maybe loudmouth woofers like you would shut the hell up
>and leave us humble football fans in peace.  Hey, look what the Miami/Arizona
>game last week did the the rowdy Miami woof throng.
>
>Joel Alvstad
>GOPHERS--Pride
>
>Hey, CU fans--see you in the Toilet Bowl!!
>
>

Hey, Relax!!!!!! CU's defense has made a habit so far this year out of
playing down to the competition. I wouldn't use the Minnesota game as
a barometer of how good CU is this year. Hey, I give credit to the Gophers
for playing a great game, but it's been 8 years and 9 seasons since CU had a
sub .500 season. Eric Bienemy did not turn the CU program around, he was recruited
after the program was on the way back up. The CU vs. Minnestoa game is what makes
college football great, and emotion or the lack of emotion is what makes it so
exciting. CU was flatter than a pancake for the Minnesota game and damn near 
got their heads handed to them. Such things happen in sports, but talent and
speed eventualy win out and teams like Washington, Miami, Nebraska and Colorado
win the majority of their games for this reason. 
-- 

Thomas Diessner | tomd@solbourne.COM | Solbourne Computer Inc. | Longmont, CO
				"GO BUFFS"
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From: tommy@macpost.vanderbilt.edu (Tommy Williams)
Subject: UT-Bama game on TV in Toronto?
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: The Virgil Project
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:23:53 GMT

I need some help. Doesn't everyone? I'm going to be in Toronto on the
weekend of 17 Oct when Tennessee plays Alabama. That's going to be one hell
of a game (and I'm one hell of a UT football fan, even though I went to
Vandy).

I'm sure this game will be on TV all over the place in Tennessee, but I
have no clue whether there will be any way to see it in Toronto.

I'm hoping ABC will pick it up as one of their regional games so I can do
pay-per-view on it in Toronto.

If any one has any information about this game, or knows where I can find
information about this game's television status, please let me know.

I'll return the favor if I can.


--Tommy Williams        tommy@macpost.vanderbilt.edu

  The Virgil Project
  Vanderbilt University School of Medicine
  (615) 343-0343
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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: FSU v. Miami
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:25:08 GMT

In article <1p_pt+r@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>
>>OK, so the 'Canes were caught looking ahead.  It's no surprise since
>>the FSU/Miami game winner will be front runner for the MNC (no matter how
>>good Washington may look this week).
>
>Yeah.... thats why Washington is ranked #1 and Miami and FSU are #2 and #3????

yeah, but washington won't be playing a top ten team untill rosebowl...

>-Eric Jaderlund

Njan
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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Virginia WINS
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.215349.15399@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep28.201645.4539@colorado.edu>,
|> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
|> |> Virginia's out of conference schedule looks pathetic...
|> 
|> 	True, but we only get 3 out of conference games and Va Tech
|> pretty much has to be one of them :)

It's the toughest non-conference game you Hoo's have scheduled 
this year, so don't act *too* condensending.

I still may not be saying much, but what I write is the truth.

|>  John Carr                           UNIX Support Specialist

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: dbloom@bnr.ca (David Bloom P025)
Subject: RE: Ex-Purdue QB Brian Fox
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:15:21 GMT

>Does anybody in netland remember this guy?  He was really good as a freshman,
>but then transferred to somewhere in Florida.  Anyone know where, and if he
>ever played / plays?

He backed up Shane Mathews the past 2 years, and this year he would
have been a fifth year senior. As a fifth year senior, its up to the
coach to keep him on scholarship.  Spurrier gave his scholarship to
one of the incoming players. Seems like a cruel thing to do, but
then again he was not recruited by Spurrier.


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From: dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu (David Mathias)
Subject: Re: Division I-AA and II polls
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:45:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.170633.10462@tamsun.tamu.edu> mcguire@cs.tamu.edu (Tim McGuire) writes:
>Has anyone else noticed that the polls for Div. I-AA and Div. II are 
>based on the votes of *four* voters?  (The Div. I poll has 60+ voters,
>by way of comparison.)  It seems to me that it would be rather difficult 
>to get an unbiased poll with so few voters.  
>
>I guess what it shows me is that the AP is not really serious about these
>two polls.  Another explanation is that there are very few sportwriters
>who have a grasp on the big picture for these divisions at a national level.
>
>Anyone have more information?
>

As I understand it, the AP has nothing to do with the Division I-AA and II
polls.  They are conducted by the NCAA.  The voters are 4 AD's, one from
each geographic region.  I don't follow Division II very closely but IMO
the voters do a pretty good job with the I-AA poll.  There is much more
movement than in the AP I-A poll.  By my count there have been about 10 new
teams show up in the I-AA rankings so far this year (that is, teams that
were not ranked pre-season).  I believe that this means they are willing to
shuffle according to who is playing the best ball not strictly by who is
able to keep winning (and yes I know what happened to Miami in the polls
this week).  PDunn, do you have any more info?


>Tim McGuire
>mcguire@cs.tamu.edu
>
> 


-- 

David Mathias    Washington University in St Louis    dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu


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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Hawaii ranking
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:37:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.173016.16677@news.Hawaii.Edu>, bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
> 
> The New York Times ranked HAWAII #7 in college FootBall.  But then,
> what does the Times know of football.   :-)
> 
> UH has a bye this week; then on to Utah Oct 10th.

The real question is, when is Hawaii going to play Florida A&M?  :-)
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Weekend wacky, wacky WACplay
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:14:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: what.. me.. organized?



Got to see 3 games here on the left coast. SDSU-UCLA, Clemson-GaTech
and BYU-Hawaii.

* I told you so.. the SDSU-UCLA game was going to be decided at the
  SDSU def. line. It was.

* Faulk's performance goes on to show how important the O Line is 
  for a RB. Time and again, they let penetration deep into the
backfield and Faulk had nowhere to go. To his credit, the one time
they opened up a hole for him, he showed why he is one the best RBs
in the nation.

* Lowery should NOT have started the game. He hadn't practised
  all week, and the results were clear on the field.

* Hats to one of the best defenses in the nation [UCLA], who held
  BYU to 10 pts in Provo, and SDSU to 7 at Pasadena.

* The Hawaii-BYU game was of the most *bizarre* games I have ever
  seen. I saw at least 5 INCREDIBLE catches made on both sides. At
one point, Hancock was just throwing it downfield and the BYU
receivers were catching anything in their vicinity. One thing you
have to say about the BYU receivers, they may not be the fastest in
the country, but they run perfect patterns, and catch everything
thrown at them. 

* I still do not believe that one-handed tip and catch by the Hawaii
  WR. 

* The one thing I like about WAC teams is that they take chances.
  They may not be the best all-around teams in the CFA, but they 
sure are fun to watch. [BTW, somebody tell Clemson that it is legal
to throw a pass deeper than 10 yds. What century do they still play
in?].

* Did anybody catch the BYU WR yell 'F___ you' at the crowd after he
  scored their go ahead TD?


_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
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From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: WEEKLY S.E.C. STANDINGS
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:56:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA


    S.E.C. Eastern Division Standings

             S.E.C.  TOTAL
TEAM         W L T   W L T  Last Week's Results          Next opponent
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tennessee    3 0 0   5 0 0  WON at LSU, 20-0             v. Arkansas, 10/10
Georgia      3 1 0   4 1 0  WON at Arkansas, 27-3        v. GeorgiaSo,10/10
Vanderbilt   1 2 0   2 2 0  LOST at Auburn, 31-7         v. WakeForest,10/10
Florida      1 2 0   1 2 0  LOST at Miss. State, 30-6    v. LSU, 10/10
Kentucky     1 2 0   3 2 0  LOST at Mississippi, 24-14   at LSU, 10/17
S. Carolina  0 4 0   0 5 0  LOST at Alabama, 48-7        v. Miss St., 10/17

    S.E.C. Western Division Standings

             S.E.C.  TOTAL
TEAM         W L T   W L T  Last Week's Results          Next opponent
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alabama      3 0 0   5 0 0  WON v. S. Carolina, 48-7     at Tulane, 10/10
Auburn       2 1 0   4 1 0  WON v. Vanderbilt, 31-7      at Miss St., 10/10
Mississippi  2 2 0   3 2 0  WON v. Kentucky, 24-14       at Arkansas, 10/17
LSU          1 2 0   1 4 0  LOST v. Tennessee, 20-0      at Florida, 10/10
Arkansas     1 2 0   1 4 0  LOST v. Georgia, 27-3        at Tenn, 10/10
Miss. State  1 1 0   3 1 0  WON v. Florida, 30-6         v. Auburn, 10/10
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Attention KU students!
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 22:32:13 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

Hey, Jayhawks -

I almost forgot -- are the shirts that the KU coaching staff wore on
Thursday (the white polo shirts with the red and blue stylized bird
silhouettes) available to the general public?  It's rare that I'll
wear another school's emblem, but those shirts were first-class.

What I need is any amount of assistance in buying one.  If your
student union sells them, an order # (and if possible a part number
or such) would be helpful.  Even better would be a way to obtain a
catalog.

Any help on this is greatly appreciated.  Plus, you'll be contributing
to the West Coast promotion of your resurgent football team!

Please email any help.  Thanks in advance...


-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND & polls
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:39:25 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) wrote:
}
}       But I'd bet we'll never see a Miami fan match this article's
}clear and objective perspective on the season. 

Sure you would: Tim Pitts.  He even recently *defended* Notre Dame 
against one of his fellow Blowhards in the ND vs. Great Lakes
fiasco.  Has a net.fighting.frenchman ever defended Miami on
any subject?  I doubt it.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

    "I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!"       
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