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From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (the_tramp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Lets follow the way of Brazil.
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:22:04 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I couldn't resist in throwing my 2 cents in this interesting topic.
I do not exactly know what is the situation in other parts, but in
Bengal the big political parties use (or abuse) the students for their
or their party's political goal.

This has to end, many students are dragged into the dirty political
game (do not blame the students, when they come to college, they all
have dreams, rather blame the leaders who lie all the time, create a
virtual reality and at the end the student becomes dependant on the
party and ruins his career). Hope people who know about SFI, Chatra
parishad etc know what I am talking about. If you are VERY smart, you
can be a student activist and at the same time build a good career.

Students are probably the most powerful part of the population as far
as the politics is concerned, but at the same time very easy to
control and provoke by false ideas, fiery  speeches etc.
(Without getting into controvercy, I just want to ask, who ever have
done it, was it good to provoke the suicide campaign against the
reservation policy??? ) And there are
always some hooligans in every school, who immidiately becomes the
'dada', backed by the local MP/MLA or someone in the opposition, and
in the process ordinary students suffer, standard of education goes
down etc etc ( REALLY? CPIM will statistically prove that they have
increased the educational standard in Bengal, number of people passing
the state administered school leaving exam once took such a leap, even
a simple minded statistician will raise his eye-brow!!).Every
political party wants to control the student base by any means.


If Sree pointed to these kinds of activities on the streets, i agree,
it has to stop, but if it is something that comes from within, without
any party-politics behind, it should be encouraged. Many apolitical
student organizations DO some good work, but I am sure it is very hard
that way, political parties will try to kill these  attempts at the
very root if you do not conform to their ideas.. but someday,
someday.....

--partha
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: IIT Bullshit
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:28:15 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Sep30.140412.13237@cas.org> nlp54@cas.org () writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.125950.28436@cbfsb.cb.att.com> rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel) writes:
>>I am the only one getting fed up reading all this bullshit about IIT?
>>
>>Rakesh 'IIT-Killer' Patel
>>
>>
>>P.S. What the heck is world culture?????????????
>
>
>XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>
>Rakesh!
>     You forgot to say the following:
>      1) Ramanujam did his doctorate at Madras IIT.
>      2) Sir J.C. Bose graduated from Kharagpur IIT.
>      3) Sir C. V. Raman did his research at Madras IIT and beacause of the
>	 prestige of IIT only he was awarded the Nobel Prize.
>      4) Haragobind Khorana did his M.Sc. at Delhi IIT.  That training got him
>	 the Nobel Prize.  He is very fortunate to go to IIT.
>      5) Suri Bhagavantam attended the Madras IIT and that was the reason why he
>	 became the director of the IISc.
>      6) T. R. Seshadri was awarded the doctorate by the Madras IIT and Bombay
>	 IIT.  At Delhi IIT he learned the Natural Product Chemistry.
>      7) Meghnadh Shah did his B.Sc. at Kharagput IIT.
>      8) Aryabhatta studied at Bombay IIT.
>      9) M.S. Swaminathan did his B.Tech. in Agric. Engg. at the Kharagpur IIT.
>      10) B.P.Pal developed all his roses in the IIT Kharagpur gardens.
>      11) J.B.S. Haldane did his research at all  the IITs.
>      12) Birbal Sahani did his research at the Delhi IIT.
>      13) V. P. Subrahmanyam learned his meteorology at the Madras IIT.
>      14) Panchanan Maheswari did his pioneering research on embryology at the
>	  Delhi IIT.
>
>
>	  What great places IITs are?
>	  There is a difference between a technician and an intellect.
>
>
>	  PARANANDI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAM
>
>Paranandi Lakshmi Narasimham
>CAS
>Columbus
>OH 43202
>
And he might also have forgot to add that PARANANDI LAKSHMI NARASIMHAM learned his
writing skills drinking Tarams chai, while at IIT, Madras. :-)

peace,
Ramakrishna

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kxg5947@usl.edu (Guruswamy Kowsik)
Subject: Re: Looking for a few RECTians...
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:02:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.191501.28232@athena.cs.uga.edu> venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!) writes:
>>Hi netters,
>>	I'm looking for the following RECTians from the 88-92 batch.
>
>  I think RECTums would be better than RECTians.
>
>  bye

you got a sick sense of humor. Why don't you put this same shit in rec.humor ?

Delta.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Subject: Re: World Culture and Western Culture/ British Misuse Of Sati.
Reply-To: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munich
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:45:35 GMT

In article <JMC.92Oct2185645@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.005113.20245@news.acns.nwu.edu> bsind@cutie.acns.nwu.edu (Brijnandan S. Dehiya) writes:
>
>   In article <BvII0u.9L1@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter  
>   Nelson) writes:
>    > 
>   >   This is incorrect.  At the time of the Indian Mutiny, for instance 
>					      *************
>
>   Just look at this.
>   When the Americans fought their British rulers , it came to be called the  
>   War/Revolution for Independence.
>   And when the Indians did the same , it was called the Indian MUTINY!!
>   As if Indians had no right to be their own rulers!
>
>   Brij Dehiya.
>
>If the Indian Mutiny had been successful it would have been called the
>Indian War of Independence, and if the American War of Independence
>had failed it would have been called the American Mutiny - or rather,
>since Americans in the British Army weren't involved, the American
>Rebellion.  
>
>The winners choose the names.

Generally true.  But the winners in the Mutiny on HMS Bounty were
the mutineers (and they were proud of it).  I don't think they call it the
Pitcairn Islander War of Independence.

About the events in India in 1857, even historians who call it the First
Indian War of Independence (there had been several battles before, but no
concerted war) do talk of the Sepoy Mutiny (or The Great Indian Mutiny)
as a specific set of events within the larger context of the war.  These were, 
of course, the actions of the sepoys under British employ.  It does make 
sense to distinguish these from the actions of the various princely forces,
and to understand them well since there were different forces, interests 
and dynamics involved between the diverse Indian groups fighting the British
(was it solely the East India Company forces,  given that their monopoly had 
ended in 1830?)

Given that the original correspondent, Peter Nelson, was refuting an
unsubstantiated claim about the composition of troops under the British,
it is reasonable for him to talk about the composition of the British
forces at the time of *The (Sepoy) Mutiny*.

Regards,
Sanjiva
--
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European Computer Industry Research Centre		Off: +49 89 92 69 91 58
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8000 Muenchen 81, Germany				Res: +49 89 16 33 59
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.misc,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: g9221069@cc.uow.edu.au (manik gupta)
Subject: Re: List of movies
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 23:21:22 GMT

jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia) writes:



>=============================================================================

>Indian movies (Pakistan too?)
>-------------

Pakistan????????????

>Compiled by Juhana Kouhia (jk87377@cs.tut.fi).
>Last update October 2, 1992.

Do you include the Holliwood movie*Gandhi*?

>Please, do send updates to Juhana Kouhia.

>=============================================================================

>Aavishkar
Konsa?
>Anubhav
Bahot Kharab?
>Baaghi
Gaddari?
>Bhandhavyalu
Yeh Konsi Zaban main hai?
>Chameli Ki Shaadi
Amrita Singh ki shadi?
>Dil
Es vatan main to be-dil ho gayen hai, back home dil chod aaye hain.
>Dil Hi To Hai
Ji han, dil hi to hai , jo hindosthan chod aye hain.
>  music by LAxmikant Pyarelal
>  director: Asrani
Asrani: director. Bhagavan daya kare prekshakon pai.
>  stars:
>    Jackie Shroff
>    Shilpa Bharti
>    Divya Bharti

>Hum
Hum Amithabh hain.Nahi nahi?
>Ijaazat
Rekha ko Nasiruddin ki Ijazat Chahiye.

Btw, I recommand this movie as worth watching.
The criteria to watch this movie is:

1. It should be raining.
2. We must watch it on a remote village's railway station.

>Jaane Bhi Do Yaaron
Yaro, Mat jane do voh moka, Ijazat movie dekhne ka.
>Jeena Teri Gali Mein
Marna uski gali main.
>Kalyug
Vakehi kalug hai.
Shashi kapoor ki ma badolat.
>Maine Pyar Kiya
Ek OZ(Aussi for Australian) ladki se.
>Masoom
Voh, do masum bacchon ki man hai.
>Maya Bazaar
Australia main settle hone ke Maya Bazar ki vajha hai.
>Pyar Ka Saaya
Kese hoga hidosthaniyon ka payar ka saya abmujh pe.
>Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman
Vakehi . OZ se shadi kar ke ghar vale kehne lagain hai Raju ban gaya 
hi ab gentleman.(Barbad ho gaya hai, Hindosthani tehzib se.)

>  Music by Jatin-Lalit

>Rangula Raatnam
Yeh konsi bhasha main hai.
>Roja
Tamil movie ka kya kam hai?
>  Music director: Dilip Kumar (A.V. Raghuman)
>  Songs:
>    Chinna chinna asai
>    Oru vellai mazhai
>    Kaadal rojave
>    Tamizha tamizha

>Sanam Bewafa
Hindosthin sanam se main Bewafa ho gaya hun.
>Sukhadukhalu
>Sukha Duhkhalu
Yeh vapis konsi vichitra boli ki film hai?
>Suvarna Sundari
Yanha ki gori ladki vakaihi Suvarna Sundri hain laikin..............
>Tezaab
Enke poshak bhi tezaab jaise hain.
>Vijaya Nirmala
????????????????????
>=============================================================================



Enjoy...........
The Hindosthani 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Subject: Re: The Gundekota File: Gundekota announces his new businessman!
Reply-To: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munich
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:51:12 GMT

Some people are witty and funny without being vulgar or crude; some others
are funny and clever while being vulgar or crude.  I recommend that you
try to belong to one of these two categories.

(This is an imprecise version of what a most quotable woman said; brownie
points for those who see the connection with lasses, glasses and passes.)


--
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European Computer Industry Research Centre		Off: +49 89 92 69 91 58
Arabellastrasse 17					Fax: +49 89 92 69 91 70
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (KING COBRA)
Subject: Re: GOOD BYE!!!!
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:46:32 GMT

In article <1ao29fINN3mr@bigboote.WPI.EDU> sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki) writes:
>
>This is my last post on these two nonsense Indian groups. Let me
>remind you once again that it is your loss and not mine. 
>
>
>The main reason for me to take this decision is the pity that i feel
>for some of you morAns.
>
>
>
>suresh
>
>
>
>ps: from tomorrow onwards if i see a single followup to this then i
>    will take over this group once again. so think twice before
>    hitting 'f' or 'F'.
>
>
>



Well, One down and hundreds to go.........................


COBRA

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32463 soc.history:8635
From: mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Subject: Re: World Culture and Western Culture
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Sati
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:23:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.161359.29035@news.acns.nwu.edu>, bsind@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (Brijnandan S. Dehiya) writes...
>In article <JMC.92Sep28214354@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU  
>(John McCarthy) writes:
>> Manoj Ghayalod includes:
>> 
>>      Obviously the Western form of democracy is a better system
>>      than the others available and India is implementing this
>>      system, but the fact remains that no former Western powers
>>      ever used their systems to benifit their former colonies (as
>>      the orginal poster seems to claim).  But on the contrary all
>>      the colonies were ruthlessly exploited.
>> 
>> I did not wish to suggest taht Western powers were very often
>> motivated by benevolence, although I would suppose there is
>> an element of that in the 1829 suppression of sati.
>> Incidentally, that is 1829, and I suppose the Indian leaders
>> Manoj Ghayalod refers to were much later.
>> 
>> Motivations were mixed.  Individual desire to make money,
>> ego and some benevolence.  Even when there was benevolence,
>> part ot its motivation was a sense of superiority.  However,
>> the innovations were introduced and were useful, e.g. secular
>> universities, railroads and a British style judicial system -
>> even cricket.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
>> *
>> He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
> 
> 
>The call for the abolishment of sati came from within the Indian society  
>and giant social reformers like Raja Ram Mohan Roy were instrumental in  
>convincing the then Viceroy ( I think Cornwallis) to pass the law banning  

There was no Viceroy in 1829. The term Viceroy itself came into being after
1857.

>sati.The British were afraid of opposition on a mass scale on anything  
>that would seem to interfere with the religious feelings of the Hindus.
>As for the transport system's development , it was for the ease of  
>transporting the British army and goods for the British industries that
>this was done.Name ONE university which the British started in India.All  
>of the Indian universities were started by Indians .
>The British did not teach the Indians about the modern way of living.
>The Indians LEARNED it by observing.
> 
>Brij Dehiya
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|  Michael Yesudas         |  The control of the means of production   |
|  Mechanical Engineering  |  of wealth is the absolute control of     |
|  University of Houston   |  human life itself                        |
|  mece21x@jetson.uh.edu   |                    --   Hilaire Belloc    |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rao@pegasus.cis.ohio-state.edu (roshan m rao)
Subject: which univs have funding   ?
Originator: rao@pegasus.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
Distribution: soc
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:03:55 GMT

I guess the title says it all. I am posting this for a friend
of mine back home. He wants to apply for the Masters Degree
in Computer Science here. So if any of you have any info
as to which university has money you can please send the
name to rao@cis.ohio-state.edu
Thanks
From: lalan@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Janak M. Lalan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Dr. L.SUBRAMANIAM concert at UPENN
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:25:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


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             AND

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            VIRTUOSO


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  A1 DRL - 33RD AND WALNUT STREET,
  
    UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA

           PHILADELPHIA

FOR MORE INFORMATION CALL:

          (215)387 4299
          (215)222 7043

        EVERYONE IS WELCOME

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32689 soc.culture.indian.telugu:256
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: wpi.students.desis,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Kamma's are sick!
Date: 1 Oct 1992 03:45:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu
Keywords: sick, kammas

In a previous article, rv17@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Rajasekhar  Velamuri) said:
:- gatsby@wam.umd.edu (Ravindra Pillalamarri) writes:
:- >
:- >	It's this kind of insensitive humor that splits the Telugu community
:- >in such a way as it is splitting today.
:- >
:- >Ravindra Pillalamarri
:- 
:- I agree with completely Mr. Ravindra


	but the vital question is: is mr. ravindra complete? and also,
	are there any other people you agree with? i would rather you
	posted all of them at one shot rather than have us know blow by
	blow (so to say) persons with whom you find complete agreement.
	i am sure they appreciate it, but we do find it a bit tedious.
	hope you understand!

	peace,

	- ravi


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32975 soc.culture.indian.telugu:347
From: megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: GOOD BYE!!!!
Date: 5 Oct 1992 03:09:57 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
NNTP-Posting-Host: obsidian.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct5.012626.26922@engr.latech.edu> sista@latech.edu (Ravi K. Sista) writes:
>

And that's all, two posts at that...

What's wrong, did the departure leave you speechless?

BTW, all generalizations are false, don't put all the WPI people in the same
group. How about I consider all Indian students to be the same?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: tss@unislc.uucp (Srinivasan Thothathri)
Subject: Looking for VTSA ARASU OF T.C.S of Madras
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:41:09 GMT
Keywords: Where are you AAndavaa???

	Hi friends,

	I am Srinivasan from the Unisys, Salt Lake City.

	I am looking for Mr. V.T.S.A Arasu of Tata Consultancy Services
of Madras (cathedral branch). He did M.Sc in Physic with me at IIT Madras,
and M.Tech in IISc in 1988. I know that the guy is in San Jose.

	Can anyone of TCS guys post me the address or contact number?

	I am also looking for one Mrs. Padma Madhavan ( previously
	Padma Srinivasan of Neyveli, TamilNadu), who was working with
	TCS.   

	Srinivasan T.,
	140N, Sun Arbor Terrace,
	Salt Lake City.,
	UTAH - 84116.

	ph: (801) 364-7345 (res)
	    (801) 594-6822 (off)
From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (the_tramp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SOME BABY JOKES
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:51:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



Rohan Oberoi writes:
>Listen you bunch of adolescent morons, WHEN ARE YOU GOING
>TO LEARN that taste has never been a criterion on s.c.i. ?

Yes Mr. grown up moron, you are right, SCI was created to go over and
over sick jokes (that has nothing to do with India and Indian culture)
posted in other news groups.  The name Soc.Culture.Indian  perfectly
explains it.. or is it the case that these John, Doug or Dead baby
jokes perfectly display india and indian culture?

ps. no offense.

pps. Q.A. s posted by Rohan (in order to be politically correct i
didn't say Rohan's Jokes or Doky Jokes) were not as *yuk* as the dead
baby ones, IMHO.

ppps. i do not mean to be against posting anything other than India
and Indian culture in SCI.. but this posting somehow tricked me
off..:)

have fun..
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: India Magnum Fund and IGF
Date: 28 Sep 1992 14:58:03 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

balajiv@kyoto ( ) writes:

(Your news software is not generating a correct return address).

>itself. For instance, the Bombay Standard Index almost tripled itself in
>the past one year, not quite justifying the slow rate of economic growth

I think it doubled, not tripled.

What changed was not the profitability in the short run but the
long-term outlook.  Suddenly it looked like the country was on it's
road to Capitalism.  What that new information, the value of owning
(say) Reliance was much enhanced.  Hence it's market capitalisation
went up.

Another problem is the way the indexes are defined.  The commonest
index is the stupid Economic Times index -- it is about as sensible
as the Dow Jones (a bit better maybe).  For the IGF what matters is
the 30-40 odd stocks it is made of, with some weights associated.
The performance of these is likely to be quite different from the
(stupid) ET index.

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: India ?? Dishonest ?? (Was Re: Sending things to India)
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:40:00 GMT
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Distribution: na
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

In article <1992Sep26.154857.29392@wuecl.wustl.edu> rr2@cec2.wustl.edu (Rajamiyer Ravichandran) writes:
>
>can be useful. There is total dishonesty out there. Come to think
>of it there is absolutely no fool proof way to send anything to that
>dishonest country, India.
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ravichandran rajamiyer

	Whatever your gripe with the customs in India might have been,
	THAT was uncalled for.
	
	Moreover, you assume that the package was pilfered in India
	by an Indian customs official. While it may be quite likely,
	it certainly is insuffucient grounds for a gross generalisation 
	on this scale.

	I sympathise with your loss of materials during shipment, but
	I think that a decent thing to do would be to retract that
	last statement publicly.

	And you ought to keep a few things in mind :

	 * Regardless of what you think about the collective honesty of 
	   Indians, you have probably spent a much longer time in India 
	   than in the United States. (This assumption is based on the
	   fact that your brother is preparing for TOEFL in India, and 
	   you are here at an edu address. Hardly enough to prove 
	   conclusively that you are fairly new here on an f-1 visa, but 
	   chances are.....)
	
	 * Regardless of how much you loathe the idea, you are much more 
	   Indian than you are an American.

	 * And in time, you will come to recognize that the US, for all
	   its benefits, is not a land inhabited exclusively by honest 
	   people. That hardly makes it a dishonest country, any more
	   than having a visa or green card makes you or me an American.

	Prem!
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