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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:37:44 EDT
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From:         Joe Lucia <jpl3@LEHIGH.EDU>
Subject:      PAIS on LANs

   It is possible to run PAIS without resorting to the SP version, though the
   SP version is somewhat simpler to deal with.  If you're going to use the
   non-SP PAIS software (can't remember the developer's name just now) under
   Novell with CBIS, you have to load a special device driver on all your
   workstations -- XCDSYS.SYS.  This driver becomes the vehicle for the
   software to access the CD drive -- it supplants the usual CBIS "CDUSE"
   connection utility for the database.  Furthermore, the actual PAIS disk
   must reside in the first logical CD drive on the server where it's loaded.
   In most cases, this would be drive D: or E:, and will also typically
   correspond to the first physical drive in your hardware stack.  The non-SP
   search software itself also seems to be a RAM-hog, so you need to really
   tighten up memory control on your workstations for it to run smoothly.
   With a lot of memory management, we had about 600K of base RAM free on the
   stations where we ran PAIS -- network stuff in upper memory, using video
   RAM, etc.  The are _lots_ of potential problems with this setup.  We ran
   PAIS this way for about a year, though we recently migrated to SP's version
   becuase it minimizes the complexity of the overall network configuration
   that we have to manage.  And that is a key concern.
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 Joe Lucia                             Phone: (215) 758-4999
 Library Systems                       FAX:   (215) 882-2907
 Lehigh University
 Bethlehem, PA 18015                   jpl3@lehigh.edu
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From:         ACADMARG@STMARYTX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Books in Print

Regarding the problem mentioned on installing Books in Print on a network
we went through this also.  Be sure that you have the network version of
the software for BIP.  Also, this is a real memory hog so be sure you
have a good deal of free memory on your workstations to run the thing.
Since we added memory to our workstations we haven't had a problem
loading or running BIP but it was a real bear before.

Margaret Sylvia

acadmarg@vax.stmarytx.edu
acadmarg@stmarytx.bitnet
St. Mary's University Academic Library at San Antonio
From: dpavlich@Chaos.mcs.kent.edu (Dave Pavlich)
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Subject: CD-ROM Archivers
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:48:22 GMT
Organization: Kent State University

Hello All:
  I am looking for a company or organization ( such as the census bureau) that
archives economical data onto CD-ROM. For example, can I obtain a database which
holds information relating to mechanics across the country.
 I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks in Advance (Please e-mail me direct -- thanks)

__

 Dave Pavlich
 Kent State University
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From:         gyoung@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Re: DOS CD's in a Mac network
              25 Sep 92 22:11:00 -0500. <9209260335.AA01602@Athena.MIT.EDU>

Have you run MS-DOS extensions?  I believe that's the way it's
recommended on standalone Macs.  I suspect that will give you the
appropriate file extensions.

-- Grant Young, Asst. Head
MIT Libraries -- Systems Office
77 Mass. Ave. Rm. 14-0615, Cambridge, MA 02139
gyoung@athena.mit.edu (gyoung%athena.mit.edu@mitvma)
phone: 617-253-1617 fax: 617-253-1690
"Nothing fancy, just so it works good."
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From:         gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR
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PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY !
It is with regret that I perform this task. Dr. Gelson V. Gomes. a
professor of the University of Parana, Brazil, has exceeded this
privileges and announced a eletronic course:

> ____________________________________________________________
>        Mastering INTERNET Tools, Seizing METANET Power -
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I must apologize for this flagrant breach of network etiquette. Please
be aware that Dr. Gelson had no right to do so, since this is against
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PLEASE DO NOT SEND MONEY!
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:29:54 -0400
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From:         SOLIBMD@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU
Subject:      Access to CDROM network through VAX dial-up/telnet connections

Does anyone know brands/sources of equipment to provide remote access,
through our VAX to our library CD-ROM network other than LOGICRAFT?
I have seen some reference to something called Everywhere Access.  Are
there yet other sources?  What we need is something to provide access
between DEC VMS workstations and Novell NetWare for access to our
CD-ROM network.  Native Pathworks has been mentioned as an interface
to provide communications capability between the server and the VAX.
Any help will be appreciated.  Additonal info on Everywhere Access, or
any other option which would provide this function for us would be
appreciated.  We are already aware of the LOGICRAFT offerings.  Please
direct info to me!

Mary K. Dudman
Systems Librarian
Georgia Southern University
Phone:  912-681-5115
FAX:    912-681-5034
Internet:  solibmd@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:53:57 +0000
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From:         e.j.craft@ASTON.AC.UK
Subject:      Silverplatter downloads

Hi all !

        Amongst all the new CDs we're putting out for the new term we've
got our first SilverPlatter title - PsycLIT.

        On all our other titles the users can print off data on a dedicated
printer for each terminal or download onto floppy. The floppy download
they've been told can be printed later by COPYing to LPT. Unfortunately
this doesn't work with PsychLIT. The download option on the SilverPlatter
search software isn't limited to 80 chrs wide and when they copy to lpt is
prints off the side of the page. We're telling people that the PsycLIT
downloads have to be read into a word processor to be printed off but this
is far from satisfactory.

        Does ANYONE know of a way of getting 80 column downloads ( printing
is fine ) on PsycLIT.

        Am I right in thinking that ALL SilverPlatter products use this
search software - IMHO it's not as good as (most of) the others we're using
!

                                                Edward.



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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 07:26:54 LCL
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From:         solrccc@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU
Subject:      Re: PAIS on Network

I use the Silver Platter product and find it easy enough for our students.
We use several Silver Platter products on our Novell LAN using SCSI Express
and they are easy to install and update.

------------------------------
Cheryl M. Claiborne                            912-681-5269
Learning Resources Center                      solrccc@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu
Georgia Southern University
Statesboro, GA  30460-8074
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From:         Nick G Carter <ng_carter@CCMAIL.PNL.GOV>
Subject:      SILVER PLATTER DOWNLOADS

     Silver Platter has several "undocumented" parameters (undocumented in
     the user manual...they will send you a list upon request).  SP's
     parameter file is called DBPAR.  To get your downloads to format
     correctly, set the parameter TFRM=1 in DBPAR.  Most of the parameters
     in this file are set during installation, and it takes some tweaking
     if your requirements are somewhat different than the SP software
     designers assumed.

     Nick Carter
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:28:39 CST
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From:         Will Stuivenga <VSGA1001@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CD-Roms being put into Floppy disk drives.
              22 Sep 1992 11:05:30 EDT from <BLIPS15@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

On Tue, 22 Sep 1992 11:05:30 EDT Howard Pasternack said:
>I used to be scornful of Apple's low tech approach to stuck disks --
>push the paper clip through the little hole in the front of the
>machine -- but at least it works and it's painless.
>
>How many of you have had the joy of trying to get pinfeed furch out of
>a Canon Bubblejet.

Or out of ANY pinfeed printer for that matter.  "Pinfeed furch," a good
term for the stuff.  Several years ago PBS had a contest to name the
that stuff that you always have to pull off the printer paper.  The
winning name was perforage (?sp).  The root word obviously being
perforate or perforation.  I like the word and have been trying to use it ever
since, but I'm not sure it's gotten wide usage, or shown up in any
dictionaries.

Will Stuivenga <VSGA1001@SMUVM1> or <VSGA1001@VM.CIS.SMU.EDU>
Database Services Reference Librarian, Fondren Library
Southern Methodist University, Dallas, TX  75275
(214) 692-3666 fax (214) 360-0609
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PAIS on Network

    Hi,

    We have tested PAIS (silver platter) version on our network.  It
    worked as well as the SP software did.

    Silver Platter has done a decent job keeping their retrieval
    software network friendly (at least for us).

    I still don't like the "Highlight" "MARK" "select" !!!
    Whats so tough about "Highlight" and "SELECT" ???


    db
    BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:21:34 PDT
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From:         Dale - InfoServer Marketing Manager - 223-4178
              <rensing@EMDS.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      RE: QUESTION:...HITACHI CRC 1700S ON AN INFOSERVER 150

Hi there.

We have heard that people who have tried attaching Hitachi drives to the
InfoServer find that they do not work due to the drives not supporting the
full SCSI (or SCSI-2) standard.  I'm afraid I don't know of any "conversion"
in the offing, but I'd like to hear about  one if there is one.

Regards,
Dale
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:02:07 CDT
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From:         David Ives <ELDJIVES@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CD-Roms being put into Floppy disk drives.

On Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:28:39 CST Will Stuivenga said:
>On Tue, 22 Sep 1992 11:05:30 EDT Howard Pasternack said:
>>I used to be scornful of Apple's low tech approach to stuck disks --
>>push the paper clip through the little hole in the front of the
>>machine -- but at least it works and it's painless.
>>
>>How many of you have had the joy of trying to get pinfeed furch out of
>>a Canon Bubblejet.
>
>Or out of ANY pinfeed printer for that matter. .........

I've cleared many a paper jam with no problems -- the secret is in having
the proper tool - a long thin set of forceps is ideal!


David Ives
Microcomputer Systems Group
MU Libraries
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From:         James Nash <ccx020@CCH.COVENTRY.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Silver Platter temp files.....especially for Novell/CBIS
              users
              Bloomberg" at Sep 30, 92 1:25 pm

D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg wrote:
> Silver Platter has a SPILL Device Letter in its configuration program.
> Along the lines of MAPping to a drive letter that is assigned a
> unique sub-directory for each station (previous posts) I had a
> problem with SP writing its TEMP files to my server's ROOT directory
> since I had the SPILL device set to H:
>
> I re-set the SPILL device to X: (the drive MAPPED to the UNIQUE
> sub-directory for each station \DATA\STUDENT\%STATION% ), and it
> started to create the TEMP files where I wanted them \DATA\STUDENT\1
> thru \DATA\STUDENT\20  (1...20 being the station numbers for Novell).

You may want to consider using a new(ish) feature of the MAP
command. MAP ROOT K:=SYS:\DATA\STUDENT\%STATION%
This would leave drive K *looking* like it was a root directory
despite the fact it's three levels down the directory structure.

That would eliminate the possibility of students changing the
X: directory (I assume you've done a MAP INS).

What we do here is have a unique usercode for each physical machine,
e.g. Room R4 Machine Number 10 would be user R4_10 and create a
home directory for each one. Use Novell restrictions so each
machine is restricted by its ethernet address, volume space is
limited to, say 5Mb, access time restricted, etc. Finally MAP
ROOT the temporary drive to their area. [If you make students
login, you can do the same thing by giving them each a temp
area.]

Then write a batch system which wipes the entire area overnight or
every time the "machine" logs in. :-) You may need a professional
file deletor as students can hide files with DOS very well.

By having these unique areas, students no longer have write rights
over a *shared* area; just one. Malicious people will quickly
work that one out and start using the 'DEL .' command terminating
all current sessions active in that shared directory!

> I no longer have any TEMP files going to my ROOT !!!, so now I can
> delete the Read/Write/Modify/Create/Erase/Filescan RIGHTS to the ROOT
> that user STUDENT needed to have.  HOORAY!!  Sometimes, minor
> victories can be most satisfying....Take That Network Noid!!
>
> I went thru as user STUDENT one by one, to see what & where TEMP
> files were being created, and then went back using SYSCON and changed
> the Trustee RIGHTS to their minimum settings for user STUDENT.
>
> Hope this helps!!
>
>         Dave Bloomberg
>         BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
>
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James Nash, Computing Services, Coventry University, England
ccx020@uk.ac.cov.cch
--That's forward slash (bottom left to top right) 'user', spelt u-s-r...
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From:         Charles Cooper <COOPER@UTSPH.BITNET>
Subject:      QUESTION:...HITACHI CRC 1700S ON AN INFOSERVER 150

Hi,

We recently got a Digital Infoserver 150 and it works great for providing
cdrom access to our PCSA PC network.  It is very fast and allows up to
100 simultainous users access to CDs.

Our Library currently has an old Logicraft PC which we have been using
for serving CDs that has 8 Hitachi CRC 1700s CD drives chained off of it.

Does anyone know if these drives can be plugged into the Infoserver.

It is my understanding that the Hitachi drives are the older SCSI interface
where as the Infoserver is SCSI-II.  If the drives cannot be connected,
directly prehaps someone knows of a product that will allow SCSI devices
connect to SCSI-II devices that might make this work.

I would appreciate any infomation.

Thanks

Charles Cooper
Univ of Texas
School of Public Health

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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Facilitated Communication Question
              "@pucc.princeton.edu:AUTISM@sjuvm.bitnet" at Sep 28, 92 1:29 pm

Over the years I've worked with kids who seemd much brighter
than their tests would indicate. (much more often than the
reverse - tests showing kids brighter than they aree) ... it's
led to many a heated discussion with the school psychologist
over lunch ...

As I understand it, facilitated communication is a learning
tool. The facilitator dminishes his/her assistance as the child
gains independence. Seems that the time to look at
intelligence, etc is in the time period FOLLOWING f/c, so that
you can communicate with the child without the assistant.

John, it's possible to look at a refusal of "scientific
inquiry" as indication of soemthing to hide ... or just simply
a recognition that "scientific" in such an inquiry is a
subjective term!!  (Remember how badly the media trashed Paul
Linus over Vitamin C ... or more recently, the study that
purported to show that Dyslexia doesn't exist by testing
Kindergarten & first grade kids -- an age where the reversals
of Dyslexia are "normal", and pointing out the normal
maturation away from the reversals in "normal" kids as proof
that dyslexia "doesn't exist") There seems to be as much
unscientific fraudulance in those who "debunk" this or that,
perhaps more, than any fraudulence in thos who develop the
questional theories or practices. (Motivation by the developer
may be clouded by his/her excitement, but the motivation of the
debunker is no less clouded - they need to find something amiss
in order to get published and keep their job!!)

And an announcement folks:  Sam will report to Ft. Riley,
Kansas on Oct 14th to begin his new career in the full-time
Army. Took four months and conquering many obstacles. I hope it
will turn out to be what he wants, at least for now. Some
sacrifices had to be made, and I'm not sure if he will retain
his medic status from the National Guard ... (when I asked, I
got a mumbo-jumbo smokescreen of non-information which Sam is
good at throwing up when he's hiding a disappointment)

    Anne
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From:         James Bordner <jobg0542@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Poetic Gifts

> What happened to that introductory post you said you were writing?

Uh, my dog ate it?

Instead of a long drawn out intro I thought I'd just sort of slip in :-)
As a short intro though, I'm 24 (well, I *will* be on Monday) and a
graduate student at the University of Illinois in Computers Science. I've
been reading this list for quite awhile (a few months at least), and
have come to strongly suspect I'm a high-functioning autistic.  I've
never been tested for this though so it's possible I'm just imagining
things.  I don't think so though-- it's one thing to read about a
condition and notice one or two symptoms in yourself, but it's something
else to read about a condition and see all the different pieces of your
life that didn't make sense suddenly fall into place.

(how's that, Carolyn? :-):-)

Anyway...

> I really can't understand why we can't bring ourselves to make the first
> approach...... I wonder if it is a 'fear of rejection' that holds us back.
> That would really be a strange one, since usually we act like we don't care
> what other people think of us. Could this be a form of 'ego protection'?

I can get really nervous when I have to call someone I don't know on the phone.
If I don't have to say much ("Hi, could you tell me how late you're open?")
it's not too bad-- in that case I just work out what to say beforehand
and memorize it.  If I expect I'll have to say a bit more than that, I'll
write what to say on paper beforehand, then when I call I just read what I've
written.  If I have to say so much that even this isn't feasible, I'll write :-)

Getting to what you say above, I find *answering* the phone no problem at all
usually.  I think there's a connection here between this and not being
able to make the first approach (I'm like that too btw).  I can't really put
my finger on *why* either-- I'll have to think about this some.

> Welcome to the public arena,

Thanks!

--james
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