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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:58:30 TUR
From:         Tom Frenkel <frenkel@CUCIS.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Air Fares to Budapest
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Hi ... my family and I are thinking of flying from New York City to
Budapest for a vacation in April 1993.  What is the lowest air fare I
should expect to pay (we would be staying about 10 days or 2 weeks)?
Would I be wise to consider the ads I see in the Sunday N.Y. Times travel
section by the "consolidators" (as I think they are called)?  Are there
some "consolidators" that are particularly reliable?  Are there some to
avoid like poison?

THANKS for any help!

	Tom Frenkel (frenkel@cucis.cis.columbia.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 92 19:40:38 CST
From:         u7941933@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW
Subject:      Tourism in Taiman
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       The tourism in Taiwan(sorry,title mistake) is developing.
       The people who travel are increase. Because peopel in
       Taiwan i
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 92 13:53:37 TUR
From:         cesloane@STAFF.TC.UMN.EDU
Subject:      Tourism and arts education
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Dear colleagues:

I would be interested in communicating with anyone who has examined the
impact of tourism on arts education. In particular, I am interested in
looking at the processes of canon formation and how curricula are chosen in
response to tourism. I have begun preliminary work on the case of Thailand,
and plan to research this in more depth next year. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Cliff Sloane
Metro State University//Hamline University
Minneapolis//St. Paul, MN
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From:         "Marcus L. Endicott" <mendicott@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      Lonely Planet online
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/* Written  4:04 pm  Dec 19, 1992 by mendicott@igc.apc.org in igc:rec.travel */
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>#: 195339 S0/Travel in General
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>Fm: Jim Hart, lonely planet 76420,3550  [76420.3550@CompuServe.COM]
>To: [F] all
>
>As well as publishing guidebooks, Lonely Planet puts out a free quarterly
>newsletter. The contents are mainly odd bits of interesting or unusual travel
>information from some very out-of-the-way places, much of it culled from the
>hundreds of letters we get each month from people who are out on the road
>using our books. There's usually also a longer piece by one of our authors
>and one by Tony Wheeler, Lonely Planet's publisher. Or anything else we think
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>To subscribe: email me or write/fax/phone one of our offices.
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 93 21:58:42 TUR
From:         "SUE THOMAS (602) 392-5147" <THOMAS@GWC.BITNET>
Subject:      Taiwan
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I noticed your discussion of Taiwan.  I was there about three years ago.
I stayed a week in Taipai and found the people lovely, but the pollution
I stayed a week in Taipai and found the people lovely, but the pollution
drove me to Hong Kong. Has it improved? I may return someday and my visa
is still good.

Sue
thomas@gwc
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 92 16:15:42 EST
From:         THE SAMBA KING <EADKINS@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Lonely Planet Free Travel Newletter

	To Jim Hart, lonely planet 76420,3550,
	Please sign me up to receive the subscription:  EADKINS

	Thanks,
	Pete Adkins
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              31 Dec 92 14:12:06 CST from <u7941929@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW>


Are we experiencing some kind of a composition writing exercise again ???
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 93 16:51:25 CST
From:         u7941927@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW
Subject:      the travel of Maimland China
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	If you have been to Mainland, you are surprise at the great of Chinese.
You may ask me why, I will tell you now.
	First, you could go to Peiping to see the Long-Wall that one of famous
historic sites around world.Then, you could take a travel by ship among the
Yangtze River to see the Tree-Arroyo that have great mountains around the river
and monkeies crying out to take you to admire nature. Finally, you could play
in East-Lake , the place is so beatiful to make you feeling to living in Asgard
to forget which the world is in.
	There are too mamy points to describe.  If you have experiences of trave
traveling to share with, do'nt forget me!
								Fackie Liu
								1/3,1993.
From: FACN34A@SAUPM00.BITNET (Dean)
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Date: 29 Dec 92 08:16:18 GMT
Organization: King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minerals, S.A.
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Greetings,

A strange question. I wonder if anyone can help.

I'm planning on sending out more than 100 letters. A few of
them will definitely be returned. My question is, if I mail
them from the U.K. with a Saudi Arabian return address, will
they be returned to me in Saudi?

Appreciate your help.

Dean

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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 92 22:53:14 CAM
From:         Eric Fenster <efenster@HURACAN.CR>
Subject:      Moscow study trips
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 Well, Boris Yeltsin survived all the predictions that an attempt to impeach
him at the December Congress of People's Deputies might succeed, but in the
process he sacrificed his "acting" prime Minister Gaidar and replaced him
with somebody from the industrialist faction (to which he had been cozying up
since September).

 What will happen next? You can see for yourself by coming on one of the
study trips to Moscow next spring which I've mentioned here before, but I
need to have groups pretty much composed during January.  If you still need
the detailed information, or have questions, let me know.  Until January 18 my
 address is: efenster@huracan.cr

Eric
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 92 12:44:32 CST
From:         u7941931@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW
Subject:      RE: Montreal and Boston
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:14:27 CST
From:         u7941928@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW
Subject:      TO REEVESJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
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    Thank you for your return mail. The weather is very fine in Taiwan now.
  It is during winter,but the winter sun is very lovely and warm. In fect,
  I still love iiving in Taiwan.I am very happy for your coming to Taiwan.


    Taiwan has a lot of "good foods",and it is very convenient. There are
  stores everywhere,and if I want to some foods, I can give they right.
  But it is different in American,it is very hard.I think that I will
  go abroad in two years.I also hope give more help.

                                                    Poh-Shiun Lu
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From:         "Ann S. Coates" <ASCOAT01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Lonely Planet online
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Curator of Slides, Fine Arts Dept.
Phone: 588-5917
I'd like to subscribe:  Ann Coates
Mailing address is      1819 Woodbourne
                        Louisville, Ky 40205
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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 93 12:04:28 CST
From:         u7941909@BM.NSYSU.EDU.TW
Subject:      The Northeast Coast in Taiwan
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Hi! everybody:
    I am a student from Taiwan. I lives in Tainan. Now I introduce the Northeast
Coast in Taiwan.
    The Northeast Coast Scenic Area stretches for 66 kilometers from Suinan Cave
at Ruifeng in Taipei County to Peikng Hharbor in Ilan Country in the south. The
Northeast Coast Highway lines the coast throughout the entire lengh of the area.
    Traveling from one extreme of the Northeast Coast Scenic Area to the other
 can tak
can take as long as three day if all the scenic spots are taken in. There are
many inexpensive seafood stands and restaurants along the way,but the only lo
  [D[y
lodgingis at the midway point between Fulung and Yenliao.Tourists planning
extended trips,therfore,should bring along tents, and sleeping bags so they cyou
 can
stop at any point on the way.Driving one's own vehicle is athe most convenient
way to see the coast, but those taking the bus can first take the Taichi bus to
Keelung, and then transfer to the Keelung bus on the Northeast Coast Highway.
Within 50 minutes the bus arrives at one of the premier scenic spots on the way,
way, the Pitouchiao Cape.
    Recreational and scenic areas on the Northeast Coast may be divided into
sea and land types. Land activities include sightseeing, camping, mountain
hiking, rock climibing, para-glding, beach and rock angling. Water activities
are most popular in the summer and are mostly centered between Pitouchiao,
Santiaochao and the Shuanghsi river. Most popular pastimes here are boating,
moto boating, sailboating, windsurfing, water cycling, swimming, water skiing,
diving, angling and snorkeling.Specific activities include swimming in the rock
pools at Lungtung, diving at Lungtung Bay and Maoao, and windsurfing at the
 Suhanghsi
Shanghsi River and Fulung Beach.
    Apart from the Keelung bus, there are several alternative routes leading
along the Northeast Coast; 1)The railway from Taipei to Hualien; 2) The Nor
North-South Freeway; 3) The Coastal Highway; 4


4) the regular bus and the Keelung Bus.
May you have a good time.
                          *Sue J. C.*
                          u7941909@bm.nsysu.edu.tw
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 92 17:30:02 CST
From:         lc78035 <lc78035@STUDENT.NSYSU.EDU.TW>
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       Dear Shyue-Perng Tsay,

            I got your question about tour of graduation. I am senior

            in NSYSU. Owing to just finishing our graduation tour in

            June, here is our tour condition for you. Total 15 persons

            join this activity. Maybe you want to ask me why so few per-

            sons ? I think you should know how difficult to hold an acti-

            vity ? Because of this reason, we just have a lot of time and

            place to select freely.

            This tour total has 6 days and tour place is Pan-Hu ( one of

            outer island of taiwan ). Average charge of one is 4500 NT$.

            And we select the " Young hotel " to rest, it is not only

            cheap but clear and comfortable. One of the most important

            reasons is near its city ( Ma-Go ). Then, we rent two cars

            about 3 days. It is convenient to go anywhere by driving-

            yourself. About earing, it is the only one thing we must

            solve by ourselves. Tell you one thing, don't doubt in Ma-

            Go there is a beefsteak restaurant. One day we four friends

            took a wonderful romance-night together in there.

            In the 6 days of tour, we visit almost tourism places of Pan-

            Hu. To avoid crowded people, sometimes we just spend half of

            one day to visit one or two scenic spots, and the other time

            we can do what we like to do. As the result of the same inde-

            pendent travel, we all had a good time and unforgettable tour

            memory.

            Oh, I nearly forget to say we took the trip by ship. To travel

            by ship, it is another novel feeling. If you decide to go , do

            consider about my suggestion. I also hope it is helpful for you.

                          GOOD LUCK FOR YOU !!!

                                                 Sincerely,
                                                  Vicky Ma.
                                                  12/30/92.
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 92 10:05:05 EST
From:         Nancy Rieser <NANSR@URIACC.URI.EDU>
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              19 Dec 92 16:04:39 PST from <mendicott@IGC.APC.ORG>

I'm interested in subscribing to the quarterly newsletter.  What do I need to
do?

   Nansr@URIACC

  Nans
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 92 10:42:57 CYT
From:         Oguz Tanzer <S900740@EMUNIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: BEST WISHES !!!
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              25 Dec 92 22:16:59 TUR from <stergios@ESTIA.NRCPS.ARIADNE-T.GR>



      Have a happy new year ....



                                                 Oguz Tanzer
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Subject:      HELP!!

        I'm having a heck of a time getting vnews to work.  I can't tell what
I'm doing wrong.  If anyone could help me, I'd be most appreciative.  THanks.
Here is what it does when I try to run it.

RL> Welcome to VNEWS V1.41 <!bsswisc> of 15-DEC-1992 15:23
RL>
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        Is there something wrong with the server I'm trying to use.  I've tried
to find another server, but have had no luck finding a list of newservers.
Please help!!

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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject: RE: sizing down a little....

What you want to do is size down your publication a bit -- this is called
scaling.  To the best of my knowledge only postscript printers can scale the
document as it is printed.  Postscript printers scale from about 25% to 999% in
one percentage increments.

So if you don't have access to a postscript printer, you probably can not scale
your pagemakr file.  Your next best bet is to tile or print somewhere else.

cindy stone

stonec@iubacs
stonec@ucs.indiana.edu
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Subject: Re: TAN: Graphics software
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:32:35 GMT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <9212211618.AA52153@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>,
 nwilson@YUMA.ACNS.COLOSTATE.EDU writes:
> What graphics software do you recommend for basic desktop publishing?
> What do you use, and why you do you like it? I'm interested in both
> Macintosh and PC platforms. I use PageMaker 4.2, MacPaint and MacDraw
> on a Mac IIcx with a Radius FPD monochrome monitor and a LaserWriter IIg.
> You probably can't get more basic than that.
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> Nancy Wilson, Publications Editor


Nancy,
Hello from one pub. editor to another!  I use Aldus FreeHand 3.1 
almost exclusively for my graphics software.  I like to use it because of 
the familiar Aldus interface, I can link documents between PageMaker and 
FreeHand so when I make changes, they are atuomatically updated, and the 
two work together very well - rarely do I ever have any type of output 
problem.  You can get it pretty cheap through CSU as an educational 
institution via Aldus (about $199 vs.$395 retail).  I use it for everything 
from typography manipulation to intensive maps, detailed logos and 
graphics and simple designs. FreeHand also works great directly across 
platforms.

I use a Mac Iici, 13" high-res monitor, and a myriad of applications, all 
going through a LaserWriter Plus and my new HP LaserJet 4M :)
I desing, produce and edit a 24-36 page alumni magazine and a majority of 
the publications for the college.

Hope this Helps
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From:         SC Mgr <scmgr@CABELL.VCU.EDU>
Subject:      Sizing down... a little more info

I am running Pagemaker 4.2 on the Mac.  I am printing to (don't hold
me to it) a TI Microlaser... not sure of the model.

I tried to go under page setup where I have seen xx% reduction (not
sure if I saw it on Pagemaker before, though).  I do not get this
option when I go under page setup on Pagemaker now.  Could this be
due to the TI not being a postscript printer?

The reason I do not know the model of the TI is that our normal
postscript printers recently died and the TI took its place
(temporary, I hope)...  therefore, I do not know if it is/not a PS
printer.
____
Greg
scmgr@cabell.vcu.edu

PS.  Good night!!!  (1:40am... ZZZZZzzzzzzzz)
From: RICHMONDJ@ADMINA.RFERL.ORG (JOHN RICHMOND)
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Subject: PostScript problems with included EPS files
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:25:04 GMT
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I have had difficulties have downlodaing PostScript files to
our Hungarian printer's RIP4/Linotronic 300.

PageMaker 4.2 files have been printed to disk as PostScript
and then translated from Macintosh into MS-DOS format
through Apple File Exchange. Such files have included EPSF
files originated in Adobe Illutrator 3.2 and other programs, for
example, DeltaGraph. The PageMaker files have been printed
to disk using L_300471.PPD, according to Linotype's
instructions. The Illustrator files were saved with
Header and No Preview options checked before
importing.

Such files were downloaded successfully to an Apple
IINTX and also to a RIP 2/Monotype 600 dpi proofing
device from the Hungarian's IBM compatible.

Text and native PageMaker elements were
successfully downloaded to the Linotronic but none of
the EPSF files. However, Adobe Illustrator files not
imported into PageMaker were successfully downloaded
to the same imagesetter as native files.

I would greatly appreciate any wisdom.

John Richmond
Publications Department
RFE/RL, Inc.
Munich, Germany
richmondj@rferl.org
fax: +49 89 2102.2648
tel: +49 89 271.5364
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:42:56 -0600
Reply-To:     "Pat Gathright" <patg@TENET.EDU>
From:         "Pat Gathright" <patg@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sizing down a little... (help requested)

Greg writes
> Scenario: I have a flier (text and graphics) set up for a "larger
>           than letter" layout (something like 10" X 12").  I only
>           have a letter size (8.5" X 11") paper tray for my printer.
>
Try tiling option that you will find under options on the print menu. You
might want to also indicate that it be printed tall instead of wide.
Remember to move your zero marker to the top left corner of your document.
> ____
> Greg
> scmgr@cabell.vcu.edu

pat gathright
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Reply-To:     "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject: RE: Best setuup for legal-sized booklet

So Bradley Wong, you'd better break open a new bottle of rubber cement and
paste them up by hand, or take the PC PM 4.0 file to someone's Mac PM 4.2 and
print it out from their computer.

cindy stone



Reply:


Der's nuttin' like a Mac!

Monte
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