HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: It's Hangin' Time!
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Corporate R&D H.Q.- R&D Support Dept.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:47:30 GMT


In article <1993Jan09.200015.12514@gibdo.engr.washington.edu>,
tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
|> In article <1ijkdiINN34h@shelley.u.washington.edu>
yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
|> >ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
|> >>        Now that it over and the life of Westley Allen Dodd is over I
|> >>would like to give an opinion as seen by one who is Japanese. 
|> >
|> >Aside from you being Japanese, I'm not sure what Dodd hanging 
|> >has to do with s.c.j.  To inject some relevance (IMO), I'll 
|> >add that there is capital punishment in Japan and that there
|> >is only one method of execution: death by hanging (koushikei).
|> >
|> >BTW, whatever happened to the infamous child killer Miya..(something)?
|> >Was he hanged?  How frequent is execution in Japan?
|> >
|> 
|> 
|> According to the book the Enigma of Japanese Power it is much more
|> common than anyone knows because it is *never* reported in the
|> Japanese press. I'd have to look it up but I remember it as being
|> *estimated* (I think by Amnesty International or some such) as
|> something on the order of 1 to 3 executions (by hanging, the only
|> method) per year.

	I happened to be watching t.v. last week when the subject of
executions in Japan popped up...I didn't really listen closely at the
time but from the little that I remember hearing, it seems that there
have NOT been any executions recently...something like 10 - 20 years?
(sorry, I wasn't paying attention)...Apparently, there are people who
are convicted and sentenced to the death penalty every year, but in
order for the actual hanging to take place, it must be approved by
some head of gov't...(I don't know the title)...and apparently, the
past three or four people who have held this position, have NOT signed
the approval papers...I remember hearing that they were reluctant to
sign it, but I didn't hear the exact reasoning behind this.  So, my
guess is that the Amnesty International figure of 1 to 3 executions
is either wrong or outdated...nothing concrete though...sorry.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne)
Subject: Re: America Doesn't have a Chance (was: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN?)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:31:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.165856.2127@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.150749.15752@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec29.182550.3614@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>>>to expand its influence militarily these days. In the case of Germany, substi-
>>>tute France and Great Britain for China and Korea. So far as Japanese alliances
>>>are concerned, they have yet to demonstrate the diplomatic ability to forge
>>>them with anyone but the US.
>>
>>>And of course, that is not even taking into account that both Germany and Japan
>>>have found the current peace/alliance with the US to be very profitable indeed.
>
>>In the last forty years, both have done well at the U.S. expense (with the U.S.
>>paranoia about the Soviet).  The present U.S. deficit (both trade and budget)
>>are a direct result of these moves and I'm sure the U.S. citizenry will not
>>wish to support more of the same.  Bush's defeat was to a large measure a 
>>result of the economic decline of the U.S. and the incoming administration will
>>need to further cut Defense spending if they're to fulfill their promises in
>>Social Welfare.  The people whose taxes were cut since then are not about to
>>agree to big increases in the Federal Budget.  It's interesting that Bush's
>>bone to pick included Capital Gains (while presently the greatest tax rate is
>>lower than the capital gains rate after the Kennedy-Johnson cuts).

>About the defict: as has been posted repeatedly, Japan and Germany BOTH have
>deficits roughly the same as ours when taken as % of GDP, so they haven't done
>THAT well at US expense. BTW, our deficit is largely the result of the last
>10-12 year spending frenzy, not the result of a 40-year standoff. Also, Germany
>had the second largest NATO force for all those years, so they weren't exactly
>shirking their responsibilities. Besides, this sort of thing kinda puzzles me:
>are you implying that Japan and Germany now need to "shoulder more of the
>burden" of their defense? Isn't that the same as rearming, a scenario which
>caused you some concern in the paragraphs above?

I'm not "proposing" that Japan and Germany rearm.  I'm suggesting that if
the U.S. removes military forces from the defense of Europe and Japan, they
will in fact rearm for their own protection.  The conflict is an economic
one.  The present U.S. budget will not continuation of the last 12 years
of military spending as well as increases to health care and other social
welfare.  With the removal of the Soviet Union as a counter to the U.S.,
both Japan and Germany will wish to become military powers in order to 
continue their economic progress.

Charlie
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:43:00 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: rossi.ee.uts.edu.au

hishimoda@vaxsar.vassar.edu writes:

>I'm interested in Japanese history between Perry and the early years of Meji,
>perhaps as a potential thesis for my history degree. 

>ANYWAY, I'd like to get cracking on some preliminary research (I'm only a 
>sophomore). 

If you want REALLY preliminary (i.e. readable) you could try Pat Barr's
books about Westerners in Japan: the Deer Cry Pavilion (1868-1905) and The
Coming of the Barbarians (1853-1870), both from Penguin. But you sound
like you want a political/technological history.

-ricko
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From: barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Re: Offered: GIFs of Naked Rie Miyazawa
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:19:05 GMT

bobbyr@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Bobby Richardson) writes:
: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) writes:
: > I have some very sexy GIFs of RIE Miyazawa...outstanding.
: > 
: > If you can take 100K+ Email...I'll mail one to you uuencoded.
: > 
: > Jim Turley... 
: 
: I think I am going to have  one. Please send it to me. Thanks.
: 
: Bobby          bobbyr@csugrad.cs.vt.edu   

Look folks! There is a different newsgroup for this sort of thing!
It is called alt.binaries.pictures.erotica and alt.binaries.pictures.
erotica.d !!! This type of thing is not at all related to japan other
than the figure in the pictures happens to be japanese. What it is
related to is porn and too high hormone levels. This group is not
appropriate for either!

-chris barrera     barrera@mtu.edu
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: bad idea to post pictures of Miyazawa Rie
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:39:32 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan12.173805.2724@mtu.edu> barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera) writes:

  >Come on Jim, whether she is NEWS or not does not necessarily mean naked
  >pictures and how good they are should be talked about on this newsgroup
  >as opposed to those newsgroup that were setup exactly for that purpose.

In the time I've been reading this group, I've read about brutal
murders, hand gun bans, nuclear weapons, Jpop, rape, etc.  Are we
instituting net-imposed censorship?  Looks like political correctness
runs into a conflict when you try to have an open net and be anti-porn.

And the subject title of this thread is really misleading.  Turley-san
never posted the pictures or even suggested to post them.  His original
post was an offer to email them to anybody interested.  Then everybody
jumps on his case.  It's classic 'Field-O-Dreams' symdrome.  'If you
build it, they will come...' (i.e. if you start making a big deal about
it...it becomes a major flame topic.)

  >Please Jim, tell us what knowledge and qualifications you have concerning
  >non-western whatever-religion-or-lack-thereof points of view, particularly
  >Japanese ? Would this kind of thing happen on fj.* newsgroups ? Maybe they
  >would, but I would be interested in hearing under which context it would
  >happen.

This sounds like flame bait, Barrera-san...if Jim Turley-san was to
actually give you ALL the numbers of requests he got to his posting,
you'd realize you were in the minority opinion.  IMHO, the GIFs were
okay, but not worth the disk space.

Jaa, James
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From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: First Love
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:18:36 GMT

Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> I would have given
>her my virginity but I found her crack pipe by the toilet instead. 

The mind boggles.


-- 
Jim Breen                           JIS:$B%8%`!!%V%j!<%s(J
Department of Robotics & Digital Technology. Monash University. 
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From: elt@astro.Princeton.EDU (Ed Turner)
Subject: Re: Wanted: [Barely] Clothed GIFs of Takahanada
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:30:15 GMT

Of course, if someone offered to distribute gifs of Takahanada "at work"
in his scanty sumo belt, I don't think anyone would raise a fuss.  It might
not occur to them that he receives a generous helping of appreciative
stares from female (and gay?) sumo fans.  His likeness adorns many
a young Japanese woman's bedroom wall in poster-sized format.  Or maybe
it is a form of (reverse) sexism.  Or maybe someone can explain the
difference.

--
Ed Turner			"Toshidoshi ya
elt@astro.princeton.edu		 saru ni kisetaru
				 saru no men."
                                          - Basho 1694
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: American-cu Cannabalism
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:52:05 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <C0IB9B.8zy@newsflash.concordia.ca> davec@ECE.Concordia.CA (Dave Chu) writes:
>In article <2601@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>>What form of cannibalism is practiced not infrequently in the USA?
>
>I believe it is the eating of the placenta after a woman has given birth.

Bingo!  Dave wins a jumbo placentaburger with all the trimmings!

-- 
Els Withers                   email: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.mil
          phone: (410)267-3192 / fax: (410)267-4883
When orbiting particle-beam weapons are outlawed, only outlaws will have
orbiting particle-beam weapons.
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From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Cars - EURONEWS
Keywords: automobile
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 12:29:24 GMT

In article <4580@sicsun.epfl.ch> Tetsu@sicsun.epfl.ch writes:
>By the way, the president of Asahi beer said, "the comsumers can decide what
>they buy, not the presidents   of the companies" and ...
>
>GOSOUZOU ni omakase shimasu.

and... showed off drinking a Bud.

-YH
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From: elt@astro.Princeton.EDU (Ed Turner)
Subject: Re: Sumo - Hatsu Basho (Preview)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:43:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.215316.8636@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>I believe Konishiki has won 4 tournaments so far. Has anyone else ever won
>that many without being promoted? If so, what was the record for most tournies
>won by a non-Yokozuna, and what were the circumstances (eg, were there, for
>some reason LOTS of Yokozuna at the time?)
>
>If Akebono wins this tournament, he will have the requisite 2 consecutive 
>great tournaments. Has any Ozeki ever won 2 consecutive tournaments and not
>been promoted? Akebono was the youngest wrestler to win a tournament and the
>youngest (I believe) to make Ozeki, so the council might have some reservations
>about making him Yokozuna. Still, there are no other Yokozuna, so it would be
>hard to resist promoting him.

The magazine SUMO WORLD has been running a several part series during
the last year under the title "Almost Yokozuna" or something like that
(motivated, I guess, by the Konisihki controversey last spring).  It goes
through many cases of ozeki who almost, but not quite, made it to yokozuna.
My back copies are all loaned out, so I can't check the exact numbers for
you but there have certainly been a good number of other ozeki with multiple
wins plus many other strong showings who never got promoted.  By far the
most common reason seems to have been inconsistancy.  Scattering good
showings amidst poor and mediocre ones has not, historically, been the
road to becoming yokozuna.  On these grounds, I don't think Konishki has
a good case.

As for the younger guys (Taka, Akebono, et al.), my personal opinion is
that the sumo elders (or whoever they are) should move quite cautiously
in promoting them to yokozuna.  The reason they are doing so well is
probably largely due to the "power vacuum" at the top, and it will be
doing neither the rishiki themselves nor the sumo world in general any
good if they get promoted prematurely and then are forced to retire at
an early stage of their potential careers by some slump in their level of
play.  It is worth noting that most recent and successful yokozuna have
been active in sumo for around 10 years (Chiyo was 9 yrs as I recall)
before reaching the top.  This gave them time to find and develop a
*consistently* strong technique/style with which to stay in the game at
teh yokozuna level.  By contrast, the current crop of young men at the
ozeki and sekiwake ranks have been in for four years or less.  It would
be a real shame if Akebono or Takahara made yokozuna in 1993 only to be
forced into an early retirement in 1994.  It is a real possibility though.

--
Ed Turner			"Itsu nukera
elt@astro.princeton.edu		 soko tomo shirazu
				 oke no tsuki."
                                          - Mabutsu 1874
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From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:04:20 GMT

masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:

>In article <1993Jan6.121648.6879@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>>
>>JUST HEARD: from a friend.
>>
>>The bride of the Crown Prince (Hironomiya) is decided to be Masako Kowada.

>   By whom?!

I suppose it was a collective decision of the gnomes of the Imperial
Household Agency, and announced to HRH by a bevy of chamberlains.

Is there any other way?

Avoids the problems of Randy Andy and Squidgey.


-- 
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From: hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen)
Subject: Re: flash news
Organization: Concurrent Nippon Corp.  Tokyo , Japan
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 07:18:59 GMT

In article <1ijimnINN22g@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>>susaki@icot.or.jp (Kasumi Susaki) writes:
>>[...]
>>>And I think this marriage is not really based on mutual understanding.  
>>>Ms. Owada rejected it again and again.  The last rejection is the middle
>>>of Oct. 1992.
>
>>>  But the messenger between them is an old boy of Foreign 
>>>Affairs and also was a vice precident of it.  
>>>I think there is some pressure on her. 
>>
>>   I wonder what kind of pressure could make a woman accept the proposal
>>which she definitely wants to reject. Was there a life-threatening
>>conspiracy?
>
>Her career? Her father's career? Or if you're an old fashioned type,
>maybe you'd worry about the honor of your family name for generations 
>to come ("Owada-ke, the ones who snubbed the crown prince").
>
>>>I think we lost a good diplomat who probably makes a footstep for us 
>>>women as a world wide career.  


Thank you Ms. Susaki!  I was so pleased to see that someone else might
have the same reaction as I did.  My wife (Japanese) was decidedly
unamused by my lack of enthusiasm over the news.  I too thought that
it sounded lik Owada san  was coerced.  Something like maybe; "If you don't
marry him you will be sent back to Nagatacho to serve O-cha."  But on
further reflection I figure nothing so overt was required.  Something
more like; "Let's be serious for a while.  The chances of you ever
becoming even a Charge d'Affairs much less an Ambassador for Japan are
about equal to the chance that Narita will ever get another runway for
747s.  Why don't you just take the PR job.  You can entertain Hillary
Clinton on state visits."

I just think that she's likely to be bored to death by the whole
affair.  I mean lets face it Prince Naruhito makes Prince Charles look
like Mr. Personality.

'Nuff said. The thought police are on the prowl.
-- 
Hank Cohen
Concurrent Nippon Corp.  	Shuwa yanagibashi Bldg. 5F
Yanagibashi 2-19-6 Taito-ku 	Tokyo 111, Japan
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From: pjyamamo@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: Texas Southern University marching band in To^kyo^
Organization: Data Structures Group, C.S. Dept., U. of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:49:07 GMT


In article <1993Jan3.233613.13182@ntmtv> hildum@ntmtv.UUCP (Eric Hildum) writes:
>This kind of corruption present with large atheltic departments is one reason..
>...

I missed this discussion in its entirety (except for the passage above
which isn't really related to the actual event) but I am interested in
how or what it discussed.

The reason is that I would suspect from previous experience in
this group that the majority of posters would be sympathetic to the
Americans in the sense that the Japanese should have better security
systems.

The reason I say this is because when I suggested that a person
shouldn't steal (or as people corrected me "borrow to teach a lesson")
a car with the keys inside (not uncommon in Japan) I received
messages that insisted the person who left the keys in the car
"deserved it" and that such "lesson teachers" were not in the wrong.

A similar line of reasoning in this case would claim that the stores
should have prevented the theft in the first place and that the band
members are not to blame.

That is the main reason I am interested in the discussion: to see how
posters reacted.  Please do not send copies: either confirm (or refute)
my suspicions (with regards to the discussion), or indicate that you do
have a copy of the discussion you are willing to send to me for me to
draw my own conclusions.

Thank you,
Peter
From: tom@crane.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:24:31 GMT
Reply-To: tom@crane.imagen.com (tom lowdermilk)
Organization: imagen

In article <1993Jan6.121648.6879@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
|> 
|> JUST HEARD: from a friend.
|> 
|> The bride of the Crown Prince (Hironomiya) is decided to be Masako Kowada.
|> Miss Kowada currently works as a bureaucrat in the Foreign Ministery
|> (where her father is the vice-minister), and has long been rumored
|> as the number-one candidate.
|> 
|> Details later.
|> 
|> -YH


6 January - This was also on today's news (if Ando-san reports it, it must
be true!). (I quess the Crown Prince gave up on Brooke Shields).

- tjl       tom@dingo.imagen.com
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From: jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs)
Subject: Re: NSF Summer Institute in Japan
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:59:31 GMT

David O Hunt (bluelobster+@CMU.EDU) wrote:
> Anyone applying?
> 
> David Hunt
> bluelobster+@cmu.edu
	Summer institute? Tell me more! I've always wanted to go to Japan, 
but I was unable to this year because of excessive responsibilites and ties 
here at college.


--

"Where imagination is sucked out of children by a cathode ray nipple
 T.V. is the only wet nurse that would create a cripple
 On television, the drug of a nation
 Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation."
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From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:07:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.121648.6879@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>The bride of the Crown Prince (Hironomiya) is decided to be Masako Kowada.
>Miss Kowada currently works as a bureaucrat in the Foreign Ministery
>(where her father is the vice-minister), and has long been rumored
>as the number-one candidate.
>
>Details later.

Confirmed by this morning's news.
The name is "Owada", not "Kowada".  Sorry.

Formal announcement will be made after the KOUSHITU-KAIGI(Imperial
family conference) on the 19th, and the marriage will be in May
at the earliest.

I won't (and can't) refer to the details of her background, except that
she spent many of her years abroad (in Moskow, US: as her father was
a diplomat) and is a Harvard graduate.

I am also told that the announcement was made because the news was
disclosed by Washington Post.  If that is the case, then it has
repeated the precedent of the current Emperor's marriage.
There was a time-limited mutual agreement among the Imperial Dept.
and the Press to avoid overheated reporting on the issue.
I do not know whether it has expired, or were applicable to
foreign press.

That's all.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
and Japanese Press
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: FLASH NEWS!!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:57:45 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

mike@clubmezz.Berkeley.EDU (Michael T. Itamura) writes:
>	According to the San Jose Mercury News (7 Jan), the Crown
>Prince was turned down by Owada when he proposed to her on 3 October.
>She eventually agreed to marry him on 19 December.

This morning's Supertime News had a clip of congratulatory words
from the former prime minister Nakasone.  He said something to
the effect that "Yappari ai ha nebari desu yo"[1].  To which the
newsperson commented "Nakasone-san ga iu to, nandaka 'ai to 
seiji ha nebari" da to iu fuu ni kikoe masu nee ..."[2].  Chuckle.

[1] Love is persistence (?)
[2] When Mr.N. says it, it sounds like "Love and Politics are persistence".
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