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From: dconnors@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (David Connors)
Subject: Re: Its a sad sad day...
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:27:05 GMT

easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:

>In article <Ace.02sw@auilcs0.UUCP> Ace@auilcs0.UUCP (James Knowlton) writes:
>>>
>>> 	You're 486sx or your graphics card must be terrible then.  I'm
>>>    running WIN-OS2 ( the same thing as Win3.0 ) on a 33/486 and its pretty
>>>    fast.  I'm using the Diamond Speedstar Plus graphics card also, which
>>>    isn't exactly state of the art these days.  I can't believe that an 486sx
>>>    would be that much slower then my 33/486.
>>
>>I can.  For one it's running at a slower clock speed. And for two it's an sx.
>>Iv'e used a 486sx running windows, and it IS slow. I'm with him - i'll take
>>a 3000/16 running Workbench anytime, thanks.

>  Why would a 486sx make any difference?  The only thing its missing is
>the math coprocessor.  Windows doesnt use it anyway.

SX makes a *HELL* of a difference. An SX machine has a 16-bit data bus 
with a 32-bit CPU. Sort of cuts bandwidth down as bit, as I'm sure you can 
imagine.


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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: RTG
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:18:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: spartan.1992Oct14.181812.13048
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario

In article <1992Oct13.104357.11897@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE) writes:

>  Don't even really need RTG, if you are prepared to rewrite graphics.library,
>  GVP have already done this much !!

No thanks. While the EGS system is viable for the proprietary GVP hardware,
RTG would encompass this as well. A $3000 graphics card is a nice option,
but RTG entails future compatibility. Rewriting graphics.library for every
new piece of technology would be very resource-intensive. With RTG, it's
plug and play, using drivers from the manufacturer.

>  I agree to a point, but when will you guys be satisfied. Lets face it you can
>  emulate **anything** on a ZorroIII card with the proper software to drive it,
>  you could put an alpha on a card, plug it in and run it as a unix box, but
>  so what !! 

This may not be relevant to your demands, but the desire to increase longevity
and ensure a more efficient transition to new technology is important to the
platform. Not everyone needs an Alpha-based CPU module, but some would also
argue that the possibility of running Windows NT, NextStep, UNIX and VMS
is advantageous.  With Zorro III and CPU modularity, things become wide open.
 
>  What does a dec station offer that couldn't be accomplished with a Zorro III
>  card and RTG? Nothing -- so !@#$ what, doesn't mean that dec stations are
>  worthless. What do you guys want, a 200mips processor 64 MEGS RAM,
>  200 MEG HD, with 2Kx2K screens in 24-bit with 100KHz, 16-bit sound, 
>  DSP, framegrabber and hardware video compression for under $500 US ??
>  If you dont like the new machine don't !@#$ buy it, but please stop boring
>  us with your "why C= has let us down" crap, we're sick of it !!

Unfortunately, you've taken our positive reaction (RTG) to a perceived
problem (A3000 AGA compatibility) and misconstrued this as a criticism
of current technology. Far from it. We're merely saying that modularity
and the decoupling of video hardware from the OS is a *good* thing.
While your wish list may seem far-fetched, both these factors help
make such things a reality. Agreed?
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A-MaxII+ ?
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:22:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: msus1.1992Oct13.142227.1395
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <torrie.719000444@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>, torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie) writes:
>Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
>
>  The Performa 600CD is a 32MHz 68030 machine.

but does the 600CD sit on your stereo hooked up to your TV....I think not.
this was about modular CD-I/CDTV like units.

>
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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Its a sad sad day...
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:54:46 GMT
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Andre T. Yew (andrey@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
: 
:>No big deal.  Tell that to SGI, who runs its R4000 machines at 50MHz external,
:>100MHz internal.
: 
: 	That's deceptive to say considering how big the R4000's
: primary and secondary caches are compared to the 486's.  Also,
: the caching algorithm is a bit smarter.
: 

Well, the SGI Crimson here has internal/external caches of 32KB/1MB, and
a typical 486 has 8KB/256KB, but then again, x86 code is much smaller than
R4000 RISC code.  On the other hand, I see your point; you're saying that
the R4000 reaps a greater reward from clock-doubling due to its use of larger
caches.  This doesn't mean, however, that the technique is *useless* for the
x86.

:
: --Andre
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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: MIPS vs. dhrystones?
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:29:51 GMT

Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren) writes:

>Nothing's perfect, but the generic
>dhrystone test seems to be adequate, when big magazines such as BYTE uses it
>in their computer comparisons, it can't be completely useless...

  I believe argument by authority is covered very early on in the list
of logical fallacies.

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From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
Subject: C64 sales (was re: blitter wars)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:56:51 GMT



Various people write:

>> Could somebody please reveal who's actually buying the ageing
>>C64 computer?
>
>I dunno, but my dealer claims he could sell all he could get his
>hands on; if he could get his hands on some.
>
>>any longer. Commodore UK's C64 Game System, a pathetic NES wanna-be,
>>flopped out of sight.
>

     I just got CBM's '92 stockholders' report a couple of days ago.  Seems
they still sold 650,000 C64s last year.



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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 & HYPE! -Reply to Jerry Shekkel
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Gregory R. Block (bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu) wrote:
: 
: And that's not even mentioning that the Amiga, as well as having 4
: 8-bit data channels, has a 6-bit volume control for each.  Using the
: 8-bit data channels, and the 6-bit volume for each, it's possible to
: simulate a higher bandwidth.
: 

There's no question that the Amiga has great hardware support for MODs;
the proof is in the fact that it can play them with virtually no CPU load,
something that the unassisted DACs of most PC sound boards cannot do.
However, as in all areas, PC's are improving in the area of sound.  For about
$140, you can now get a wavetable synthesis sound card for the PC.  This has
the mixing and resampling hardware necessary to play MODs without the aid of
the CPU, as well as 16-bit samples, 44.1KHz sampling rate, on-board RAM for
storing samples, and *32* channels (16 panning voices in stereo).
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From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: Re: Toaster on Sci Fi Channel!
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:21:20 GMT

In article <BvrM4D.6Ew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason
Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
>In article <hudson.0b67@vsbbs.UUCP> hudson@vsbbs.UUCP (Stefan Hudson) writes:
>>Did anyone else notice what looked a LOT like toaster effects on the Sci Fi
>>channel's 'Tales from Beyond the Other Dominion' (or something similar) show?
>
>Well, I don't get the Sci-Fi channel :(, but I do get Headline news and
>I can't help thinking that those neat new anims that they have - the
>satilite in front of the earth, the new intro to the sports segment, etc -
>are all Toaster generated, I don't have any basis for this, but it just
>SEEMS like it :)
>

ya know, I was just thinking that this weekend.  Lightwave 3D stuff has a
certain look to it and it shows on the CNN stuff.  Anybody know if the new
opening to David Letterman's show is Toaster generated.  Take a good look at
it, sure seems like it.

JOSHUA TSUI
(still needs to learn Lightwave)
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: The A600 uses PCMCIA, here's why...
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:18:50 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Oct09.153454.17482@zds-oem.zds.com> easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:
> In article <u0HBsB6w165w@bugend.edvina.se> ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:
> >easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:
> >
> >> >Here in Sweden a small company called Hotline have developed a 
> >> >fax-modem that fits in entirely in the PCMCIA. Not bad, eh?
> >> 
> >>   Intel has announced the same thing.  They are a not-so-small company
> >> in the US. :-)
> >
> >But the Intel modem is not *entirely* inside the PCMCIA, right?
> >It has a box with the line interface sitting outside.
> 
>   Your going to make me dig thru the trash looking for that issue of
> PC Week? :-)
> 
> >And is Intels modem a faxmodem?
> 
>   As I recall (without digging) it was all on one card and it did have
> fax capability.

Well, the samples had at least the isolation transformer part of the
line interface in a bulb with the connector on the end of a cable and
they weren't fax modems.

Not sure if they've done a fancier version since...
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From: soh@tmp_ip_003.trl.OZ.AU (Soh Kam Hung)
Subject: Snip and trim at the newsdresser
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:08:15 GMT

Awright, it's time for you long article fellas to visit the
newsdresser!

This is his friendly advice:

SNIP YOUR LONG SIGNATURES!  Our newsreaders can't tell if you've
written a meaty, juicy article or if you're merely the owner of an
overblown signature.

TRIM YOUR ATTRIBUTIONS!  Summarise articles you refer to.  Cut other
people's signatures.  Dumb newsreaders can't tell if you've written a
substantial article or if you're simply a boring plagarist.

ASIDE: Is there any newsreader program that can list the length of
an article and the number of original lines?

With this advice, you are on the way to being a concise, readable
writer.

Regards,

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From: tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: PopUpMenu 5.0
Reply-To: tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:35:57 GMT

Could you please explain the FD portion of showpatch and why it has
to be assigned.

			Thanks,
			Todd
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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: A-MaxII+ ?
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:23:01 GMT

bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:

>Are you sure this is correct?  To the best of my understanding, Apple
>is claiming that both QuickTime and apple's replacement for QuickDraw
>(I believe it's called QuickDraw GL) totally bypass QuickDraw in 7.1.

  It's QuickDraw GX (I have a button which says so).
  As far as I know, QuickTime uses 32-bit Colour QuickDraw GWorlds
to image into, and then blast to the screen with a CopyBits.  They
certainly seem to be able to handle arbitrary clipping of movies
behind windows, on multiple monitors of varying depth, all of which
would suggest that they are using the base Colour QuickDraw CopyBits
code.  (Plus the fact that Bruce Leak was responsible for much of
32-bit Colour QuickDraw, and QuickTime - would suggest he'd use some
of his preexisting code).
  As for QuickDraw GX, that's so far pretty much unknown.  They have
promised that it will work in concert with QuickDraw (i.e. you'll be
able to mix calls from the two). 

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From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: a4000 and intuition...
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:41:00 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

there's a rumor around here that the 3.0 rom has been partially re-written and
optimized for the 68040.  can anybody confim/deny this????
From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I found it! An Amiga *ADVANTAGE*
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:02:21 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>Wow, I did not think it could be done - but I have found an
>advantage in the Amiga over PCs!  :-)

>It is this: PCs have a history of using 5.25" floppies.  When things
>that require booting (like OSes for my PC), it MUST boot on the 'A:' drive.
>So what if your A: drive is 5.25", and the boot software is 3.5"?
>Basically, PC users have to either do ROM tricks or get a dual purpose
>cable and switch the designations manually.  Ick.

>But, on the Amiga, the 3.5" is almost totally prevalent!  This fact would 
>be double cool if most of them out there were HD, *but*, oh well.

>This is weird - maybe I can make a *list* even.  This one will be the
>first entry.

>--
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I wasn't sure this was a joke until I read *that* line... :)

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From: Per_Salmi@augs.se (Per Salmi)
Subject: Re: A-MaxII+ ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.tech,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
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OIVIND IDSO (oivindi@dhhalden.no) wrote:
: 
: What Mac would A-Max emulate if it was used on for example a 25Mhz Amiga 
: 3000, or the 040 based A4000? Would it be a IIsi, IIci or even a IIfx/
: Quadra??? Is the A-MaxII+ able to display colors when emulating? If yes, how 
: many?

I saw this AMAX II+ in an A3000 last spring on the Amiga Show in Stockholm (Sweden) and it seems to be more like the IIfx when compared to the real Mac's (this is with an ordinary A3000 more about accelerated ones now!). 

At that time the Quadras had serious problem with running System 7 OS but it worked great on an A3000 with 040 accelerator and even faster than the Quadras! The salesman was very proud when telling me these thing as he liked the thought of Quadras not being able to run it own OS. :-)

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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: ##### A1200 RELEASED NOVEMBER ##########
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 21:35:50 GMT

barryb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Barry A T Brown) writes:

> appearing BUT.... Commodore are releasing the A1200 in November which has almost
> the same technical spec    ie. AA chip set, High Density drives etc....

Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou...  There *IS* a God!

Now what does this wonder look like? :)

(Actually, can anyone verify this - I don't mean to be cynical, but someone else 
said that C= had dropped the A1200...)

-Eyvind

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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 is kinda UGLY !!!
Date: 12 Oct 1992 19:22:10 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Keywords: Ugly

In article <banks.718890200@csuvax1> banks@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Corey Banks) writes:
>  Now that is a great idea.  I've always wondered why you coldn't have a
>round,  or even better an non regular shaped computer (Apart from it rolling
>off the table that is)

That's it.  The 5000 should be shaped like a huge powdered donut.
It's perfect, they'll get the entire market of police officers.  (then
again, if that's your target market, you could shape it like Rodney
King and... make a killing on foam billy clubs.)

There are some really disgusting-looking ideas out there.  I once saw
a little flat, round workstation.  Kind of like a pizzabox, but
spherical.  The biggest reason behind using "rectangles" would be
because everything else is.  You've got a rectangular-glass monitor.
A rectangular border.  In a somewhat rectangular-shaped case with a
rectangular thing coming out of the back.  It all kind of fits together...

>  But I wan't a big black cubic pizzabox taking up ALL of my desktop!

Fine.  Make a phone call, and have them deliver a pizza to your lazy
A$$.  Spray paint it black, and voila, instant NeXT.  :)

>  Well I just wan't a Mac Plus to turn into a fish bowl!

You know, I think I'd pay money to have a Mac Plus fishbowl.  I'm
serious.  I think that would be so incredibly neat.

>  I love black as well (hey paint your Amiga black it looks great ).  I

I know, I've got a black 2000 with a pseudo-hacked CDTV keyboard.  :)

>posted a while back about the colour of the Amiga range,  and what I want
>to know is can I put an A4000 into a really groovy black IBM PC case?

Anything is POSSIBLE.

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From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I hold in my hands the CBM 1992 Anual Report....
Date: 11 Oct 92 04:22:24 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <92284.171317DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu> DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> In article <1992Oct10.061752.12644@coplex.com>, dannie@coplex.com (Dannie
> Gregoire) says:
> 
> >Perhaps microsoft dribble like yourself might also like to know that
> >the Amiga is quite capable of running PC software (including windows
> 
> Hold on here. .advocacy wasn't created so that morons (whether pro-Amiga
> or anti-Amiga) could launch personal attacks. The person you responded to
> posted some interesting information; your post was useless. ("dribble"
> to use your terminology)

Yeah, but it wouldn't have the text running left to right.  Most likely
someone at the graphics agency that did the annual report thought they
had a good picture except the screen had pink-eye or was displaying
something from alt.sex.pictures and spliced in some other screen shot.

The editor should have caught it being backwards, but it's within fuzz
of being completely illegible and they probablyd didn't have their
glasses on.

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