From: bpharmon@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Want facts? "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA" etc. etc.
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:33:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: miavx1.1992Apr14.143353.10767
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

/.I think the article above is an invaluable peace of information.
/.It is quite long, but it tells you to what extent the media and
/consequently the brains of many generations are almost unnoticeably
/controlled by a concentrated minority of Jews.

	hmm.  You really like to stick your neck way out, don't you?


/When i was in the United States (1986-1991) i was always perplexed
/by the general (not always publically manifested) attitude implying
/that arabs in most cases belong to a certain well defined category
/of people. ``You don't look like an arab'' was the most frequent reaction
/i used to get when first introduced to people.  ``As if arabs could be
/classified or categorised in one single shot'', 

 	Read very carefully what you just said about categorizing arabs as one
group.  Now, very carefully, read your first two sentences.  
	There is a phrase in this country "the pot calling the kettle black." 
I think it fits here.  
	You just grouped Jews as one big, unified armada of manipulators while
making the case that Arabs are a diverse culture. Doesn't it sound a wee bit
incomplete,
	Besides, the definition for "being jewish" is not as simple as having a
jewish blood relative.  It involoves what culture/religion you practice and
precisel;y who your parents where (even then, what about agnostic childred from
jewish families....?)  Someone posted a long (and thorough) critique of how
these people cam e up with the definition of who was jewish.  It should be on
the net somewhere.....
  

/Soon after, and upon being confronted to the type of information about
/the Middle East written in the papers and shown on TV, i started to realise
/how biased is the information. 

	hmm. incomplete, yes, definitely.  Biased, sure.  It is certain that
most news sources in the U.S. are slanted towards U.S. interests and concerns,
and that representaions in the media will probably leave out things that "don't
fit"  
	One of the reasons why you detected a pro-israel slant in the media has
a lot to do with the fact that Israel and the US have typically been allies in
the past fifty years.  Our cultures, while not the same, also share some
similarities that make a pro-israel bias all the easier.  
	However, in light of some circumstances i cannot be sure that there
really is a pro-israel slant in the media.  The hubbubb about the loan
garuntees for israel, for instance.  It is well known that loan garauntees for
Iraq were approved without hitch, while the ones for israel are currently met
with opposition.



/I realised the difference between the general
/information level (regarding this arab-israeli conflict) of an average
/Parisien for example and an average citizen of Columbus, Ohio. Soon i realised
/that e.g. the New York Times is no match to Paris' Le Monde (regarding this
/issue). In Paris, people would
/confront you in the streets with very detailed questions reflecting well
/informed opinions while in Columbus (for example), people were full of
/curiosity but at the same time they were, most of the time, displaying an
/almost inacceptable degree of ignorance (regarding this matter again).


	aah. and the jews are respnsible for this, and not the crappy papers in
the columbus area...


/The question of ``why so many Americans seem to be satisfied, regarding this
/issue, with a shaky level of information, while they seem to be zealous,
/commited, competitive, and mostly well informed in many other areas''
/remained unanswered for a very long time (was n't it Mr James Baker, who on
/a recent visit to the Holly Land metioned something to the effect of:`` Oh..
/the distances are so small''?!)

/Here comes the article above to spot the lights on some reasons for this
/issue. Nothing wrong with Jews being successful (Good on them) but to
/use their success to hide relevant facts is an immoral act.

	eh? like what?


/Unbiased, objective information is a necessary ingredient of the
/process of making a good judgement. In the past i used to say ``Why the
/h.. the American people (with all its tendencies towards, fairness, justice
/and righteous behaviour) why they don't see?'' and now i say, ``Give the
/American people the facts, ALL THE FACTS, and let them judge.

	fine, but the article is not based on fact.   It was written by the
NAAWP, a cute little white supremacist group started by David Duke.  Just
because they say mean things about a group you don't seem to like does not make
it fact.



/If it is possible to repost the article above another time, please do.
/May be some people did not have the chance to look at it. And most frankly
/i see it as a ``start of a new era'' (these are not my words aren't they).

	.aah. if only it wasn't complete fabrication adn exaggeration....


/It took James Baker 43 years (since the 1948 occupation of Phillistine)
/to realise that the distances in the disputed land are short..with a bit
/of luck it should not take more than another 43 years to realise that the
/land after all .. is a Phillistinian land!

	Palestinian or philistinian?  I though the Philistines live south of
there (well, in ancient N.E. times, they did)) 
	Look, I'm nor going to comment on whether the modern state of israel 
should have been created or not, but remember:

 the ancient israelites where there
 before you, and the caananites before them....

	Besides, nationalism is usually complete silliness anyway...

-- 
George Hassoun
University of Adelaide, EEE Dpt.
Adelaide, South Australia
email: ghassoun@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au      Phone:(08) 228 5468


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From: hypes@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Gary Hypes)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:53:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Montana Prisoners Brutalized
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID