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From: icsu0182@cs.montana.edu (Sean)
Subject: Re: double bass pedals
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:55:38 GMT

In article <BxHJv5.6D7@acsu.buffalo.edu> v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz) writes:
>Any recommendations on double bass pedals? I'm looking for something really
>sturdy. I am would like the cost to be somewhere around $250 or less.
>
>Dave

You might consider looking for a good used one then.  The two best pedals that
I have used have been Gibraltar and Camco, which I think are the two best
anywhere.  Finding something Really sturdy for under 300 bucks might be tough.
Gibraltars run about $300, and Camcos are about the same, just depending where
in the line that you decide to buy a pedal.  

Good Luck...

Sean

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From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Subject: Re: Drumkit cost..
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:57:15 GMT

In <9NOV199215445060@rosie.uh.edu> st1p8@rosie.uh.edu writes:

>Could anyone give me a rough estimate of the cost of two bass drums,
>snare, high-hat, 4 toms, ride, 3 crashes (all Tama/Zildjian)?  Thanks
>in advance.

This price comes from the Fall 91-Winter 92 catalog from Music Emporium
in Rockville, MD (this set isn't listed in their latest catalog):

	Tama Rockstar DX 7-piece double bass kit	1,190.00

These prices come from Music Emporium's latest catalog:

	A. Zildjian 14" quick beat hi-hats		  184.00
	A. Zildjian 16" thin crash			  105.00
	A. Zildjian 18" medium crash			  124.00
	A. Zildjian 14" thin crash			   86.00
	A. Zildjian 20" medium ride			  142.00

The drum kit comes with 3 cymbal stands (2 boom, 1 straight), and a
hi-hat stand.  So you'll need another stand.  Here's the prices for
those:

	Tama Mercury Stilt boom cymbal stand		   72.50
	Tama Mercury Stilt straight cymbal stand	   59.00

If you want pedals (from Music Emporium's Fall 91-Winter 92 catalog):

	Tama HP30 Flexi-Flyer pedal			   63.00
	Tama HP38 chain drive extra-light pedal		   73.00
	Tama HP45 Probeat pedal				   79.00

If you need a throne (from the latest catalog):

	Tama HT85 throne (bicycle-type seat)		  101.00
	Tama HT75 throne				   67.00

The prices from the Fall 91-Winter 92 catalog are given because they
were not listed in the latest catalog (but that doesn't mean that
Music Emporium no longer carries them) so they may not be accurate.

Music Emporium USA
1150 Rockville Pike
Rockville, MD  20852
(800) 648-8460 - Orders only
(301) 762-4209 - Customer service
(301) 762-0094 - Fax (24 hrs.)

DISCLAIMER:
This is NOT an endorsement of Music Emporium.  I have not purchased
anything from them.  I have given these prices from their catalog
only because I happened to have it handy.  I have provided these
prices for information only.

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From: v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: double bass pedals
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BxHJv5.6D7@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz) writes...
>Any recommendations on double bass pedals? I'm looking for something really
>sturdy. I am would like the cost to be somewhere around $250 or less.
> 
>Dave

dude, for $250 you could buy just about the best double bass pedals. my
gibraltor pedals are very nice, a do a could job, and they only ran around
$60 i think.

fenwyr
From: mhopper@emperor.gatech.edu (Michael A. Hopper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: Drumkit cost..
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:53:31 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering Research Lab, Georgia Tech.

In article <9NOV199215445060@rosie.uh.edu> st1p8@rosie.uh.edu writes:
>
>Could anyone give me a rough estimate of the cost of two bass drums,
>snare, high-hat, 4 toms, ride, 3 crashes (all Tama/Zildjian)?  Thanks
>in advance.

It's been a while since I priced new drums, but I would say around
$2500 for what you've mentioned.  If your not picky about having 
new drums/cymbals, I suggest looking in the classifieds and other 
sources of used musical equipment.  Here in Atlanta, there is a 
publication called the Atlanta Advertiser which has tons of used 
equipment, priced at REAL SACRIFICES.  Look to pay 40% of the new
price for any used stuff, especially drum sets.  They are just 
hard to sell.

-Mike

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From: kharstin@MtHolyoke.edu (Ken Harstine)
Subject: Aluminum-plastic dumbek
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:32:35 GMT


At the Middle Eastern Music and Dance Retreat one of the Darbuka
instructors offered to obtain the drums for the students.  He should at a
minimum be able to put you in touch with someone who can supply them.  

	Souhael Kaspar
	6909 Laramie Avenue
	Canoga Park, California  91306

Also in Santa Cruz, Rythem Fusion has them from time to time.

	Rythem Fusion
	P. O. Box 3226
	Santa Cruz, California  95603
	(408)423-2048

I can't remember the brand name, however it is made in Egypt.  There is
only one drum I no of that meet your description.  It is aluminum with a
clear plastic head.  The head is secured by screws with a rounded rim.  The
body is often covered with a plastic coating for decorative purposes. 
It's a great Arabic style drum.

---Ken Harstine
From: v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: A little help please...
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


This is a little embarassing, but here goes. I have been playing drums
for about 11 years, 4 of which was playing set. I dont know how to tune
my drum kit!!! I have a band now, and would like to sound good for the
other guys, and for the audience eventually. I have a Tama swingstar
set bought back in '88... basic type stuff. Could someone please direct
me to some good books on tuning and upkeep. ANY advice here would be
appreciated.

thanks in advance
fenwyr
From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: double bass pedals
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:43:21 GMT
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Distribution: na

In <1992Nov11.150834.16593@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> dchavez@tincup.enet.dec.com (Dale J. Chavez - Colo Spgs) writes:


>there are numerous top drummers playing the Yamaha pedal: Dave Weckl,
>Vinnie Coliuta to name a couple.

Unless he switched sponsors recently, Vinnie uses DW.

Tama's Camco pedal is also pretty nice.  But the best advice anyone can give
you is for you to go to a store and try out the pedals for yourself.  That's
the only way you can be sure.


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From: pmy@vivaldi.acc.virginia.edu (Pete Yadlowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: you do udu?
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:40:55 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


I'm sorely tempted to invest in one or more of Frank Giorgini's
hand-made clay Udu drums, or possibly something from the
associated-but-cheaper Claytone line, or Jamie Haddad's Hadgini drum
(also ceramic). I saw all of these at a recent PASIC, played with
them a bit and was quite impressed with the quality and rich variety
of sound these drums are capable of producing. I was wondering if
anyone here who plays any of these might have comments, testimony or
anecdotes to share. 

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From: mhopper@emperor.gatech.edu (Michael A. Hopper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: Temperature effects
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:01:31 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering Research Lab, Georgia Tech.

In article <1992Nov10.034313.21355@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> galbrait@spot.Colorado.EDU (GALBRAITH JOHN) writes:
>Does anybody know what effects temperatures have on drum kits?
>As in, what happens if you leave your drum set in a cold practice
>space and only warm it up when you are there using it?  Do the
>shells crack? do the cymbals splinter? Do you hydrolic heads
>spurt goop onto the ceiling?
>Just asking for a friend.  Our new practice space is unheated
>for most of the time.  Please respond via email, as I probably
>won't read this group very often. Thanks.

My drumset has faired well in cold weather.  A friend of mine even played
an outside gig with temperatures in the low 20's.  His hydrolic heads
felt frozen but sounded and held up fine.

My mother is a violinist and she protects her instrument from SUDDEN CHANGES
in temperature and humidity.  I think that sudden changes are more harmful
than particular values of temperature.

Then again, if the temperature is getting below 10 degrees, I might be 
concerned.

Just my thoughts.

-Mike


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From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: need suggestion on MIDI drums...
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:24:58 GMT

In article <STEVELA.92Nov10151514@beach.csulb.edu> stevela@beach.csulb.edu  
(Steve La) writes:
> I am looking for:
>   1) Roland Octapad II
>   2) Drum Kat 
> 
> Does anyone has any comments on these drumpads?  
> Which one is better?  

I'd say the Drum Kat (either the original version or the
new slightly less featured (but upgradable) version) is
a step beyond the Roland Octapad (I or II).  There are many
more features/parameters, as well as a far superior
playing surface on the Drum Kat.

You may wish to consider the Alesis D4, which provides
inputs for 12 separate pads/triggers, and produces many
top notch sounds internally, all for less than $400.

Pads will run you from $50-$150 depending upon size. 

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From: pompf00@DMI.USherb.CA (FRANCOIS POMPEO)
Subject: Snare ripoff??
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:31:29 GMT



Hello everyone!

About 2 years ago I bought a superb Noble & Cooley snare drum. It is a standard
5 inches in depht, is made with a single solid male ply and the rims are made
from ... I can't remember the name of that heavy solid metal... if anybody 
knows french it's called "fonte". It's not aluminum neither brass.

But anyway the description of the snare is not the purpose.

I bought it, and it was pasticurarely expensive. It had the sound I was lookingfor, and was the most sturdy compared to other bran names such as Tama, Pearl,
Yamaha and other less known brands (certainly not less in quality though )

After bargaining with the store's manager I got a reasonnable deal. I figured
that the snare is the masterpeice of a drum set and it was well worth it.

But the manager came up to me when I was about to leave and said that if I
ever realized that I was too much to pay for a snare I could come back and
he would arrange some sort of arrangement ...

I said fine, thanks etc...

But now I'm wondering if the snare I bought might have been used!!

Has anyone ever experienced some kind of fraud like this could be?

I've heard some ugly stories with amps and guitars etc...


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Universite de Sherbrooke
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From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: double bass pedals
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:51:25 GMT

   I have just a plain old Yamaha pedal (900 series) and the DW 5000
pedal and if the double pedals are similar to a single pedal, I'd get
the Yamaha. Hey, so Neil Peart doesn't use one. No biggy.
 
   Vinnie (Colaiuta) is the man I must say. 


                                           - Mike -
From: v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: double bass pedals
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BxLzrs.GqK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR) writes...
>In article <BxHJv5.6D7@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz) writes...
>>Any recommendations on double bass pedals? I'm looking for something really
>>sturdy. I am would like the cost to be somewhere around $250 or less.
>> 
>>Dave
> 
>dude, for $250 you could buy just about the best double bass pedals. my
>gibraltor pedals are very nice, a do a could job, and they only ran around
>$60 i think.
> 
>fenwyr

after readung the rest of the posts i see i must have gotten one hell of a
deal. are therre lower grade gibralter double pedals? i mean my pedal is great
for $80, but if i had paid $250, i would feel ripped off. i need new 'beaters'.
can someone 1) give me the correct name for the part that hits the bass drum
	    2) recommend one that will give me a nice punch, and will be good
for fast, syncopated drumming.

fenwyr
From: v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: double bass pedals
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:43:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Any recommendations on double bass pedals? I'm looking for something really
sturdy. I am would like the cost to be somewhere around $250 or less.

Dave
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From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Re: ministry
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:19:06 GMT

	On the 'In case you didn't feel like showing up' video,
	I think one of the drummers had been associated with 
	Skinny Puppy, but I'm not sure.  

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From: sh@cypress.com (Steve Haigh/VDSP)
Subject: Re: double bass pedals
Originator: sh@kahuna
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor/San Jose, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:49:42 GMT

I recommend Yamaha. I payed about $239 about 6 months ago. Great
pedal. Alex VanHalen and Matt Sorum of GnR use them.

Steve.
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From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Jazz snare?
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:56:30 GMT

I migrated to this group from the rec.music.synth flamewar...I'm primarily
a pianist, but I've hit a few skins in my life....

I've been playing drums for about 5 years, off and on, but I've always been
able to use a school set.  Now that set is gone.  I don't need a kit (I'm
a jazz drummer ;)); I'm just in the market for a good, tight wood jazz snare
of some sort.

Brands?  Models?  Vendors?  Prices?  I'm not looking for anything super
expensive, but I am looking for *very good*, if such a category exists.
Any help appreciated; reply via email please.

LAiRD

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From: coyote@cc.gatech.edu (Stephen C. Arnold)
Subject: Dumming as a spritual practice
Reply-To: coyote@cc.gatech.edu (Stephen C. Arnold)
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:36:18 GMT

I am interested in drumming as a spritual practice.  I am currently
reading Drumming at the Edge of Magic by Michey Hart.  Drumming is
new to me.  I have had my hand in spritual practices for many years.

If you have any references or suggestions about this topic, please 
send me these.

Thanks

Stephen Arnold (coyote@cc.gatech.edu)


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From: kharstin@MtHolyoke.edu (Ken Harstine)
Subject: Re: Aluminum-plastic dumbek
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:49:59 GMT

> I have an Israeli clay dumbak that needs a new head. Where can I get such
> a thing and how do I put it on? Any help would be appreciated. 

Try Rythem Fusion:

        Rythem Fusion
        P. O. Box 3226
        Santa Cruz, California 95603
  0      (408)423-2048
++
They have a connection to0 a local drummer who does re-heading of defs and
ceramic drums for them.++

Also in reference to the "poo".  You are right, ceramic with fish skin or
other high quality heads always sound better, however they require a lot
of care and feeding.  As plastic headed drums go, this one is the best
that I have heard for Arabic styling.  By Arabic, I mean Arabic, not
Azerbaisan, Persion, Turkish, Bulgarian, or Armenian, to name a few that I
have heard.
From: popetz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Clinton C. Popetz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Drop Clutch Hi-hat pedal
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:00:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.BxIF9A.Co5
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I have been thinking about getting a drop clutch pedal for my high-hat
since I can't live w/o my double-bass but I still like playing rythyms on the
high hat open and closed.

SO, anyone now of price ranges/good brands?  


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From: v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: Drumkit cost..
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:13:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <9NOV199215445060@rosie.uh.edu>, st1p8@rosie.uh.edu writes...
> 
>Could anyone give me a rough estimate of the cost of two bass drums,
>snare, high-hat, 4 toms, ride, 3 crashes (all Tama/Zildjian)?  Thanks
>in advance.

i paid 170 for a swingstar set of tamas with 2 zildjian cymbals and a hit hat
wow, make that 1700 :) anyways i only have one bass drum, and this cost was
about 4 years ago. i would count on around 2000 at least.

fenwyr
From: v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: ministry
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:37:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

maybe i am blind, but i cant find the name of the drummer on psalm 69.
all i know is he is amazing, and when i saw him live at lalla, he was
bordering on godlike. i am asuming he is one of the remaining drummers
from the original line-up which used to feature 2, and am proud to say
that he played thieves by himself. this song is enough to kill me, and
he did 12-15 songs just like it in concert. if you ever want to see the
mesiah of our profession, catch ministry live. (btw, the drummer from 
soundgarden was pretty excellent too).

fenwyr
From: v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.percussion
Subject: Re: A little help please...
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BxMn42.9w4@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v094lrtr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (FENWYR) writes...
> 
>This is a little embarassing, but here goes. I have been playing drums
>for about 11 years, 4 of which was playing set. I dont know how to tune
>my drum kit!!! I have a band now, and would like to sound good for the
>other guys, and for the audience eventually. I have a Tama swingstar
>set bought back in '88... basic type stuff. Could someone please direct
>me to some good books on tuning and upkeep. ANY advice here would be
>appreciated.
> 
>thanks in advance
>fenwyr
> 

There a whole bunch of simple things you can do:
- replace your pads
- when putting new heads on, use a "cross" technique (tighten nuts that are
  across from eachother a little bit at a time) in a perpendicular fashion
  (ie, the perpendicular diameters)
- cheap techniques: throw a blanket in your bass drum, use some old cloths
  within your drums to muffle sounds
- get pads or use some duct tape on your heads (around the edges) to muffle
  them (a friend of mine uses newspaper and duct tape...it's actually rather
  effective albeit messy)

The trick is usually a somewhat muffled sound without too much ring although
this isn't always the case (we could start up a flame war over whether a 
snare should have a bit of "ping" to it...depends on your style and music)

Note: If you use a lot of duct tape, you may wear out your heads faster.

ALso, do some basic maintenance...put new felts and guides on your cymbals,
oil moving parts on pedals, clean off dust, tighten loose connections,etc.
It's worth the effort. Maybe something is rattling around when you play.

For a prof. sound, ask some people who do studio work. They can give a lot
of advice.

Hope this helps!

David I. Schwartz
V104N55K@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: stevela@beach.csulb.edu (Steve La)
Subject: need suggestion on MIDI drums...
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:15:18 GMT

I am looking for:
  1) Roland Octapad II
  2) Drum Kat 

Does anyone has any comments on these drumpads?  
Which one is better?  
Are there other similar products from other manufactures?  
It is possible to replace my regular drumset (take up much space) with these
  gadgets?
I am planning to connect this device to a sound module (ie. Roland CM32L).  Do
  I need to buy other drum machine (MIDI)?
If you are selling either drumpads, please let me know...and thanks in advance
for any comments...

Regards,
-Steve