From: pap@tempel.az05.bull.com (Pierre Perret)
Subject: Re: Some more misconceptions regarding OS/2 and NT
Reply-To: pap@myths.az05.bull.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 02:49:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.194642.12590@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
|> In <1992Aug20.033259.2424@catfish.az05.bull.com> pap@tempel.az05.bull.com (Pierre Perret) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <1992Aug19.202912.3110@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
|> >|> In <18AUG199220345466@rosie.uh.edu> st1g9@rosie.uh.edu (Lee Preimesberger) writes:
|> >|> >	Walk into your local college campus CS department with your CD's,
|> >|> >tapes, and $50.  Within ten minutes you'll find someone willing to copy it
|> >|> >over for you.  Really, Fred...these things aren't in Sanskrit! :-)
|> >|> 
|> >|> Really?  This is news to me.  I find it particularly unlikely, since
|> >|> it would require me to find someone who had both a supported CD-ROM
|> >|> and the same type of tape drive that I have.  Cute rhetoric, though.
|> >|> Get back to me when you're out here in the real world.
|> 
|> >1. copying the NT CD ROM onto a Colorado Jumbo tape on a friend's system
|> >is exactly what I did to install NT on my system that does not have a CD
|> >drive, but does have a QIC-80 drive. The NT CD can be read on any system
|> >that has a CD drive supporting the ISO format. It is only for the
|> >install under NT that you need the drive+adapter combo to be supported
|> >by NT. I remember seeing a message by a fellow who printed the docs from
|> >the CD using a SUN station. How's that for real world?
|> 
|> How's that for real expensive?  

What do you find expensive? A SUN station? Maybe, bu that is not the point! What
I am trying to say is that the NT CD can be read on any CD drive. It does not
have to be a **supported** drive!

|> >2. It is really funny to see you arguing about the unlikeliness of finding
|> >a tape drive compatible with your own, since in earlier postings, you
|> >were claiming that vendors should offer software on tape. Pray tell,
|> >how many tape formats should they support to avoid pissing off people
|> >like you?
|> 
|> Go back and read it again, Pierre.  The unliklihood of finding someone
|> with BOTH the tape and CD-ROM, which is what it would take to do what
|> was suggested.

So what? you are so enamored with floppies that you just need to find someone
with BOTH a CD-ROM drive and ... a floppy drive. You know what? That is exactly
what I did with a previous CD from MS, before the July conference. I had a
different tape drive then, and the options were to take it out of my machine and
bring it to another friend's machine to copy the data to tape, or to backup the
CD on floppies. I came out with a pile of slightly less than 40 floppies. The
July release of NT would  have required probably 60 floppies, but I did not need
to go that way that time around.

|> [Gee, I've become a 'people like you'.  Well, people like you are so
|> busy buying whatever the Microsoft Marketroids want to sell to you and
|> paroting their every word that I'm surprised they didn't tell you to
|> call a 900 number to get it via download!]

Are you sure Microsoft got you peeved all red just with the fact they released
the NT developper kit on CD only? You are rather touchy you know !

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