HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: New Uploads.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:47:37 PST
Reply-To: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Re: Adam Conover's STEREO demo uploaded to the Archive.


Hmm.. I wonder if it was pre:Gumby, since you (Adam) said that it (the 
demo) needed two machines...

interesting...  do they talk to one another via joystick ports or SIO 
ports? (can that be done!?), or do you just "press the [SPACE] bar on 
both computers at the same time"!?  :)


I've had thoughts of making a game (or games) (dunno WHAT tho!) (better 
be something GOOD and INTERESTING, of course!) that would use one 
computer for the sound, using digitized samples (perhaps as music only, 
or sound only, or hey, even 3 computers?  one for sound FX, one for 
music, and one for game/graphics/CPU!?!)

Get the picture?

>I< think it's a cool idea! :)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: ac742@yfn.ysu.edu (Joe Perkins)
Subject: Re: C vs Action!
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:51:19 GMT


This ongoing C language conversation has caought my interest..How
would one go about writing C code on an IBM and transporting it
to the 8-bit?  This could have some potential for broadening our
software libraries.  Is this a "do-able" thing?  What kinds of
pitfalls await me before I plunge into this?
-- 
****Joe Perkins
    Internet:  ac742@yfn.ysu.edu
****
From: A644690C@vax.edinboro.edu (Adam J. Conover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: My Mistake.  (Fractasia version).
Date: 24 Jan 1993 13:37:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I case anyone cares....  A few days ago I said that I uploaded
Fractasia v1.58 to the archive.  There is NO v1.58!  The version in the
archive is v1.57 (and is the only available version).   It was a typo
on my part......



-Adam Conover.
	a644690c@edinboro.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: bbs@neb (BBS System 801-572-4969)
Subject: Textpro
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:15:38 GMT

Why use _ANYTHING_ else when Textpro exists? _THE_ editor for the 8bit
Atari! (griN)
-----
Posted by BBS User: James King
Mail Path: uplherc.upl.com!neb!bbs!1fa
-- 
Nebula - A Public Access Unix System/bbs - (801)-572-4969 v.32/v.42(bis)/PEP
From: chase@electron.rutgers.edu (Kevin Chase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: WANTED: Cartridge Serial Numbers
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:52:35 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hello Fellow Atari 8-bitters,
 
Back in July I coordinated an effort on this group to create a list of all
cartridges produced for the Atari line of computers.  Before very long we
had compiled a list of over 300 cartridges from a variety of publishers.  I
have reposted the list on a few occasions since then and have received only
a few more additions and corrections.  I'd like to consider the project
finished but the list has various short comings which should be addressed.
I hope that perhaps I can catch the attention of some people who may have
missed the original postings, and with their help produce a more accurate
list of all Atari cartidges.
 
To save bandwidth, and because the list is essentially unchanged from
its last posting I am not reposting it now.  If you want or need a copy
of it just drop me a note and I'll email you a copy.  Instead I am
to post a description of the information missing in the hope that
someone out their can fill some of it in for me.  Thanks for listening.
 
The following cartridges I need the serial numbers for.
Atari         Atarilab carts, Deflector.
Activision    Keystone Kapers, Zenji, Beamrider, Decathlon, Pastfinder,
              The Designer's Pencil, The Dreadnought Factor
CBS Software  Most of them
ParkerBros    All except Frogger and Death Star Battle
Sega          Tac-Scan, Spy Hunter, Tapper, Up N Down, Frogger II, Sup Zaxxon
Spinnaker     All except Delta Drawing
ThornEMI      Hockey, Orc Attack, Darts, Tank Commander
 
The following manufacturers of carts may have put serial numbers on their
carts, but might not have.  If someone owns any carts by Broderbund, Fisher
Price, First Star, Gebelli, Roklan, Romox, Sierra On Line, Sirius, or
Synapse could you see if there are any serial numbers on these carts and
email me what you find.
 
For those who are interested I also have lists of 2600, 5200 and 7800 games.
 
I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this project.  I was
pleasantly surprised at the response to my request for help creating this
list, and am indebted to the dozens of people who have sent me additions,
corrections, and words of encouragement.  As always I will be posting a
new version of the list as soon as enough changes warrant it.

-- 
  |||   ! Atari 800/130XE !      Kevin Chase          ! Game of the week
  |||   !  2600/7800/NES  ! chase@physics.rutgers.edu ! Gateway to Apshai
 / | \  ! Genesis/MacSE30 !  Classic Game Collector   ! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: A644690C@vax.edinboro.edu (Adam J. Conover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Sparta X321D.DOS???
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:29:06 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

There is a version of SpartaDOS 3.2 called X321D.DOS.  This 3.21d version
has been modified to allow more SDX/MS-DOS style commands.  I found
a version on a local BBS but the file seemed to heve been corrupted.
Does anyone happen to have a copy of this?  I would love to have a working
copy since going from SDX to SD3.2 can be a real pain when you forget
to type CWD instead of CD, etc., etc....

-Adam Conover.
	a644690c@edinboro.edu
  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: straif@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Peter Straif)
Subject: Re: File Headers.
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:53:53 GMT

In <C16AKJ.3CI@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> smb@pern.cc.purdue.edu (Scott M. Ballew) writes:

>In article <1jjps0INNek1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> UJ1G@DKAUNI2.BITNET (Marek Tomczyk) writes:
>>> What determines if it runs or returns to DOS?
>>
>>In order to automatically run a program you should specify a
>>starting address. This starting address is stored into the
>>memory locations $02E0-$02E1. An initiation address should be
>>written into $02E2-$02E3 (it could be vice versa, I don't have my
>>notes with me).
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> If you chain (by appending) files together, Which one gets control?
>>
>>Very simple, that one whose address is stored in the $02E0 vector.
>>You could specify an init address somewhere in the middle of the
>>chained file. Then DOS jumps to this routine. In order to continue
>>loading you have to exit your init routine with an RTS instruction.

>You missed a very important subtlety in this system.  First, there
>is a difference between the RUN address and the INIT address (and I,
>too, cannot remember which is at $2E0-2E1 vs $2E2-2E3).  When DOS
>loads the INIT address, it does a jsr to that address _immediately_
>(without continuing the load).  When that code does and rts to DOS,
>DOS picks up with the load where it left off.  This means that you can
>have multiple INIT addresses strewn through your load file and they
>are treated like subroutines to the load process (be sure the code
>they run has already been loaded, though :-).  In the case of the RUN
>address, only the last value stored here matters.  This is the one
>that DOS jsr's to _after_ the load is complete.

>Now, can someone with a memory map handy verify which address is
>which?  I'm not sure where my memory map is.

>Scott


	Ok, $02E0 - $02E1 is the run address,
	    $02E2 - $02E3 is the init address.

I'm have an addition to: There is one problem, that occurs, when you
use any SIO-handler (like P:) in an Init-Part:
	All IOCB-Blocks are copied into the zero page, when an operation
	is done on any channel.Normally, this doesn't matter, because
	on every SIO/CIO call this is done. But when you do it in the init part
	of a COM-File and then return to DOS ( with RTS ) , sometimes
	something strange can happen. For instance, I've programmed
	one time an Init-Part that sended a text to the printer ( p:),
	and after the RTS, Dos continued to load, but the floppy didn't
	READ from the file, but WROTE to it, because I've opened before
	an IOCB to the Printer with open #x,8,0,"P:". The only solution
	I saw, was to save the zero page IOCB before outputting to the
	printer, and afterwards to restore it.
	The same thing can happen, if you use handler-routines in the VBI
	( for instance a T:-handler to get the current time from an
	real time clock).


Peter

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E-Mail: straif@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
From: ac742@yfn.ysu.edu (Joe Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Turbofile/Micromiser
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:03:41 GMT
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net


After many months of searching, I still have not been able to locate
any software from Micro Miser Software, ( i.e.  Turbofile/Turboword etc. ).
can anyone help me with this problem?
I had contact with a few peo;e on this matter, but suffered a system
crash and lost contact...
Thanks...
-- 
****Joe Perkins
    Internet:  ac742@yfn.ysu.edu
****
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: DOS comparison
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: DOS
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 19:47:15 GMT


     And of course DOS XE distributed by Atari with the XF551 drive.

     Uncle Fester

--
           :     What God Wants      :  God wants gigolos          :
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: miskinis@aidev.enet.dec.com (John Miskinis)
Subject: NEVER got Atari Classics :(
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 26 JAN 93 20:22:31    


I never got my Atari Classics magazine...

I did move adresses, but forwareded my new address to the
person in charge (forgot the name)...

_John Miskinis_
From: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Happy Cursor
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:39:47 PST
Reply-To: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

My God good man!  I have you (somebody's?) HappyCursor program!  The 
screen goes black with white or grey text, and the cursor becomes a 
blinking, multicolored happy face.  I love that!  It was one of the 
couple of files I was testing out MyNI_DOSes batch jobbing with!  Turn on 
the computer, boot up MyDOS, have MyNI_DOS load up, and bam, up comes 
HappyCur! 

Coolness!  I'm sure it works!!

:)

Good job.       (but yes, there are meanies that mess it up..  but I 
think even TurboBASIC XL works with it... don't remember)


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From: cd827@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey J. McWilliams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Turbofile/Micromiser
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:01:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd827@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey J. McWilliams)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current) says:

>
>In a previous article, cd827@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey J. McWilliams) says:
>
Michael,

I also own Turboword+, and I agree, the editor is pretty horrible, 
and there are very few printer features supported by it.  Not enough
memory for large files to edit, editing is sometimes really slow, especially
when inserting or deleting stuff in the middle of a file.
I don't use AtariWriter 80 though, I'm a big Sparta-X fan and I've been
reluctant to use AtariWriter 80 because I understand there is no elegant
way to exit back to DOS.  I did mean turbofile, when i mentioned it. 
I wanted to get Turbobase too, but never could afford it, and now it's 
too late.  Turbobase is the mother of all databases, but I think even
Turbofile is one of the most complex next to its big brother.
It's got a few annoying bugs, and you really need a hard drive for it
(I suppose that would go triple for Turbobase).

Jeff McWilliams

-- 
Jeff McWilliams  -->student, Electrical Enginnering, Michigan Tech. Univ.

cd827@cleveland.freenet.edu  OR  jjmcwill@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk (David Oakley)
Subject: Do an RFD: comp.sys.atari.advocacy?
Organization: ASTRAsoft, Stoke-On-Trent England.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:09:02 GMT

Hi!
	This discussion has been going on in the overly-active-of-late atari.st
section and someone suggested I'd better warn you.
Hopefully in the next week I'll be posting a Request-For-Discussion in
news.groups and all as below.

Until then, if you have any relevant comments you'd like to add then please mail
me at...

dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk

Thanks!

David.
                                                                   .___ .
David Oakley, ASTRAsoft shareware producers for the ST            //_ //|
6 Watlands Rd   | "I was in love, once. A ZX81. People said,      || || |
Bignall End     | 'No, Holly, she's not for you.' She was cheap,  || || /\_
Stoke On Trent  | stupid and wouldn't load - at least not for   _/|| ||\_/ |
ST7 8QQ England.| me, anyway."			     Red Dwarf |_/ |_| \_|/

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REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION
======================

This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup for
debates about the Atari range of personal computers.

Group Name
==========
comp.sys.atari.advocacy

Status
======
Unmoderated

Rationale
=========
This group will separate a section of discussion from the current
newsgroup comp.sys.atari.st and atari.8bit.

The discussion of advocacy currently takes up over 50% of the items
in the atari.st newsgroup and so it is felt that the original
purpose of the newsgroup is being left behind.

New users and people who need information about the Atari ST can
continue to use the original group and would hopefully get more
attention if there is less advocacy mail present.

What a FAQ for this group could contain is also a matter for
discussion.

Discussion
==========
Comments on this proposed new newsgroup should be posted to the USENET
newsgroup news.groups.  If the reader is not able to do so, comments may
be e-mailed to any of the proposers, at the addresses below, and we will 
post them.

Voting
======
If no problems arise, voting will start one month from the posting date
of this RFD.

Proposers
=========
David Oakley		dxo@cs.bham.ac.uk
Ian M Rae		imr@cs.bham.ac.uk
Annius V. Groenink	avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl
Jan Kim			kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: yabi@ellis.uchicago.edu (Scott Thomas Yabiku)
Subject: Re: Bootstrapping for the 8bit
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:47:36 GMT

In article <1k4s9t$u2@agate.berkeley.edu> rmartin@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Richard Martin) writes:

>I tried using the util.exe to format atari drives on an IBM PC, but 
>it formats them in double density. Also it gives me an error:
>"Error formatting track 0." Can I get DOS 2.5 to recognize a 
>double density disk? Is there a way to un-diskcomm the DOSes that 
>are on the atari.archive so I could boot from one of these PC created
>double density disks? 

Hmm... let me canvass my memory for this...
Atari DOS 2.0 (and maybe even 1.0) has almost all the abilities to read
standard double density disks.  Atari had this in mind, as they did
create an 815 (?) double density drive in the late 70s/early 80s (never
released, though).
Now, in the IO control areas for DOS, there's an address that contains
the density byte (0 or 1).  It's quite simple.  From BASIC, just do a
POKE xxxx,1 and _voila_, the DOS will now be able to read/write double
density disks for the particular drive numer (the information for all the
drives is stored at an address, say $700.  The information for drive 1
(actually drive 0) would be at $700.  The next drive's information would
be at $700+some offset.  Next drive info would start at $700+ 2x some offset,
and so on).
I've done this before, and it does work.
So, what is this address?  I don't know (sorry.  POKE 1801,1 or POKE 1802,1
seems to stick in my mind, but I can't be even 5% sure of that).
If someone has a copy of Mapping the Atari, or even better would be Inside 
Atari DOS, you could easily find out.
-scott
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No disclaimer.  I represent the beliefs and opinions of the entire
University of Chicago community.  Have a nice day!  :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari XL as Car Computer
From: Jeff McWilliams <JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 21 Jan 1993 14:25:35 EST
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.

Jeff,

Very interesting story about using your 800XL and Monitor in your
car.  I talked briefly to Ben Poehland about this car stuff, and
he suggested some heavy duty noise and surge filtering on the
12V DC line that is powering any 8 bit equipment one plans to
hook into their car.  I think all of this would make a great article
to read about , I know I'm curious to know more about how you
hooked things up to the car.  I'm fascinated by your accounts of
what the police officers thought of the whole thing!

Jeff McWilliams
From: djg0@aber.ac.uk (Dean John Garraghty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Digi-Studio gets reviewed!
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:28:19 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Digi-Studio has just been reviewed in Page 6 (New Atari User) over here in
the UK. They seem to like it, pointing out only a few minor problems, mostly
with the manual. So, now you have somebody else's word about Digi-Studio, not
just mine. Buy a copy today! If you need the product info and US address to
send money to, then please email me.

Dean Garraghty.
Email: djg0@uk.ac.aber (JANET UK address)  djg0@aber.ac.uk (Internet)
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: DOS overview
Date: 27 Jan 1993 04:26:43 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Well done Oliver, that file has just been a great help!

(I just bought an 800XL a couple of days ago, with the *original*
or Sparta-DOS, and Smart-DOS.  And of course Atari-DOS (2.5).

Looks like Smart-DOS is the best out of the 3.  

 =============================================================================
 | O O    Computers:  Not just machines, they're a way of  |       |||       |
 |  o     life.  Your computer *IS* your religion!         |       ||| TARI  |
 | \_/    Steve Wells - Wellington, New Zealand.           |      / | \      |
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From: A644690C@vax.edinboro.edu (Adam J. Conover)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: DOS 2.5. (was RE: File Headers).
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:03:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> Oh come now Adam, you have a DOS manual, don't you?  I know that at least 
> DOS 2.5's manual explains it all, and that MyDOS's manual might explain 
> some..
> 
> Also, check out the PD program "BINVIEW" which shows you what chunks of a 
> binary file goes where, and explains a bit on how it's done...
> 
> including RUN and INIT addresses!
> 
> 
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I have not laid eyes on an Atari DOS 2.5 manual in years.  I quit
using Atari DOS the day I got MyDOS.  I quit using MyDOS the day
I bought SpartaDOS X.   I gave my sister all my documentation for my
old stuff and no longer have access to it.   The SpartaDOS X manual
lacks in much Technical Detail and contains nothing about Binary Files
(that I could find, at least).   So, in answer to you question.... NO.
Reading out of a book would have been just as easy as reading from a screen,
if I actually had one.

BTW-  Speaking of incomplete documentation..... Has anyone gotten any closer
to figuring out the FE FF header in the SDX .COM files?  I havn't played with
it in a while.  It would be nice to be able write those totally relocatable,
memory resident, library sharing, etc., etc., files.  To bad ICD still
won't give out any info.......

-Adam Conover.
	a644690c@edinboro.edu
From: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Turbofile/Micromiser
Date: 24 Jan 1993 16:42:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, ac742@yfn.ysu.edu (Joe Perkins) says:

>
>After many months of searching, I still have not been able to locate
>any software from Micro Miser Software, ( i.e.  Turbofile/Turboword etc. ).
>can anyone help me with this problem?

Did B&C ComputerVisions run out of them?  Their Winter 1992 catalog lists
Turbofile/80 and Turboword/80 for $44.95 each.

-- 
         Michael Current, Cleveland Free-Net 8-bit Atari SIGOp
Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA / UUCP: ...!umn-cs!ccnfld!currentm
      Internet: currentm@carleton.edu / Cleveland Free-Net: aa700
From: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Turbofile/Micromiser
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:54:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, cd827@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey J. McWilliams) says:

>Yes, I went hunting for Joe back in November for this program and B&C
>said they just sold out.  They said they didn't sell very many
>though, maybe one a month if they were lucky.  There are still some parties
>out there that I know of who would like to see the rights to turbofile
>purchased or gotten somehow.  It's the best database program I know, 
>especially when it comes to giving your drive a workout.  (grin!).

That's too bad they've pulled such an attitude, it seems to me they used to
be famous for their support.  I remember when I bought and registered for
Turboword, they replied with a nice, personalized letter responding to most
of the complaints I had with the program.  Later, they sent the Turboword+
update disk free of charge.

Then again, I really disliked the editor itself, and I never went back to
it once I bought AtariWriter 80.

Are you talking about Turbofile being such a great database, or Turbobase? 
I thought Turbobase was their original, high powered product, and Turbofile
was the stripped down version meant to work with the new Turboword product.
-- 
         Michael Current, Cleveland Free-Net 8-bit Atari SIGOp
Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA / UUCP: ...!umn-cs!ccnfld!currentm
      Internet: currentm@carleton.edu / Cleveland Free-Net: aa700
From: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: C vs Action!
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 12:39:34 PST
Reply-To: phbill@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

re: c and ways of programming it & action!


yeah, I guess I'm just fuming lately! :)

The sig..       PhBill@Cyberden.UUCP or PhBill@Cyberden.SF.CA.US
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit