HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: elee8zr@rosie.uh.edu (Rit, Vincent)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Re: Tyro I  ->  Country List & Other Info
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:40:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct4.084115.24571@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Robert Zacharias) writes...
>General player consensus set the update times and rates which are as
>follows:  
>	
>	- one update per day -> which will be at 00:00 CST give or
>		 		take a few minutes.  8-)
>	- 50 ETU's per update.	
>	- 128 by 128 worldsize.

I can't understand how pple. agreed on 00:00 Central Time!! that's during
the night for most of us in the US, and early morning in Europa!
I'd think that something around 10:00 or 11:00 pm Central Time would be
more convenient for every body: morning in US and afternoon in Europa.
But well, if the majority agrees on 00:00, then too bad, I'll accept
, naturally.

>The game will start on October 12, 1992 - at 00:01.  This is of course is
>not etched in stone and may be altered.  Warning will be given well in
>advance of any changes though.
> 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Robert Zacharias   INTERNET: umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca   (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
>	Faculty of Management                  University of Manitoba
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Vince.

No sig, no disclaimer. Who cares?
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr)
Subject: NEW GAME STARTING SOON! (was: NEWBIES WANT YOU!)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:47:34 GMT


A new game of empire is beginning:

Diety: Geoff Cashman			Vice-Diety: Robert Zacharias
       (cashman@silver.ucs.idniana.edu)		    (umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca)
       Author of "User's Guide to		    Empire site administrator.
			   Empire"

Site address:	TBA			Port address:   TBA

Send e-mail to the Diety indicating your interest A.S.A.P.!  Include a name
for your country and a password for access - and any other information that
may apply (like how much time you have to play the game per day).

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R. Ross Holder, Jr.  INTERNET: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca  (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
       Department of Philosophy                The University of Manitoba
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Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: ccastks@prism.gatech.EDU (Kevin Stallard, esq.)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: New Empire Game (Bloodbath Empire)
Keywords: Start tonight!
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:40:55 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


  Just a reminder, Bloodbath Empire starts tonight at 6:00 EST.
The first update is tomorrow morning at 11:00 (EST).  You may log on
and check to see if you can connect.  Any problems should be sent to me 
ASAP.

ost is 139.88.30.210
port is 1617

Later
   Lord Mac

Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: boutell@cshl.org (Tom Boutell)
Subject: Re: Broken Throne ... Anybody remember this one ???
Keywords: Broken Throne
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Labs
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:38:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.012927.15181@udel.edu> rapp@pineapple.cns.udel.edu (Brian Rapp) writes:
>In article <bill.716321390@news.ncsu.edu> bill@ncsu.edu (Bill Goodwin) writes:
>>	I'm looking for Broken Throne...
>
>BT was written by my friend Tom Boutell.

Ya know,

About once a month I get / see a message about this.

I tried to escape it... but it sank its gnarly little obviously - a - hack
surely - too - crude - to - live claws into me, in one email message
after another.

Now I'm deathly afraid I may upgrade it.

Protect me from myself.

-T

Contemplating a UDP version - long distance playability and all that
And of course X
Oy veh

-- 
Tom Boutell, boutell@cshl.org

Clausthaler is the best non - alcoholic beer in the known universe.
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: tax@tolsun.oulu.fi (Samuli Takala)
Subject: What is Chainsaw
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:10:26 GMT

After a while I read some messages in rec.games.empire and I noticed some
people mentioning a version of empire called chainsaw. I'd like to know what
is the difference between bsd empire 1.1 and chainsaw 1.0/2.0.

Please mail me as I don't read this group frequently.

Samuli Takala                  EMail: tax@tolsun.oulu.fi
Melojantie 10 as 4             phone: +358-81-348049
90560 Oulu
Finland
From: gt8305a@prism.gatech.EDU (J. Roger Sumner)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Re: Governers and Co-players
Keywords: Goveners, co-players, new code?
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:49:59 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct2.171933.16887@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (BULLDAWG) writes:
>
>	What does everyone think about adding some code to the server so that
>co-players can be logged on at the same time as each other (no more 3 country 
>in use by...)?

    The idea is interesting but would be unfair to single player countries.
Of course nothing is really fair in the game of empire.  I do like the idea
that you could log in under the same country name or maybe a small variation
of that country name (ie. Country Name = 'Bighead' and 'Bighead2'). The 2nd
country name would not be an active account (ie. no attacks, spying, etc...)
but it would be able to inventory the country and maybe move stuff around
from a production standpoint.  Another good option is that 2 co-rulers 
could telex each other from the seperate accounts and discuss stratedgy or
whatever.

						Jack Sumner.
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Question about new commercial packacge for PCs
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:39:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.1992Sep30.163946.29827
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University

Has anyone heard anything about an upcoming package called "Ultimate
Empire"?

Michael


-- 
Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on
 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty
From: ccastks@prism.gatech.EDU (Kevin Stallard, esq.)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Empire game registration is CLOSED
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:37:50 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

WOW! You guys move fast.  I received 40 entries overnight.  If you received
e-mail from me, then you are in. (I'll post a country list later)
If anyone is interested in being on a waiting list, drop me a line.

Later

  Kevin "Lord Mac" Stallard
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Blitz Game this Sunday
From: Chad Zabel <UD177385@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 25 Sep 1992 15:19:35 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

There will be a blitz game on Sunday Sep. 27th.

HOST 128.211.1.26
PORT 1617

Time:  The game will open up at 10AM Central Time.    Sep 27
       First Update will be at  11AM Central Time.    Sep 27
       The game will end at     11PM Central Time.    Sep 27

Winner:  The player at the top of the power chart at 11PM
         or until one country kills the rest.

Size:  World size is   64x32


Updates:  From 11AM-12PM updates are every 5 minutes.
          from 12PM-end of game updates will be every 10 minutes.
          A 1/2 hour break is planned for dinner. (This is up to the players)

ETU:   50 / update

Land:  The starting land will be large islands and countries will be
       separated with deity military so everyone has a fair start.
       Average size is 30 sectors at the start.

Coun:  1-12
Rep:   1-12


If you wish to reserve a country please drop mail to
Chad   at
ud177385@vm1.nodak.edu

Or just show up and pick a country on your own either way is fine
by me.

*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*
* Chad Zabel                            "Life is like a pinball machine you *
* ud177385@ndsuvm1        (Bitnet)       need to score big before you loose *
* ud177385@vm1.nodak.edu  (Internet)     all your balls."                   *
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Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen)
Subject: Need to talk to specific Diety of...
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:10:30 GMT

I need to desperately talk to the diety of the game i'm in.
It is run at dec1.uafcs.alaska.edu 5000.  Please e-mail me
at charles@zip.eecs.umich.edu as soon as you can. Thanks - Chuck


-- 
"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sense,
reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galileo
"I'm an engineer, not a dictionary!" - Me
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Robert Zacharias)
Subject: repost of: NEW GAME STARTING SOON! (w/ corrections)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:32:02 GMT


A new game of empire is beginning:

Diety: Geoff Cashman			Vice-Diety: Robert Zacharias
      *(cashman@silver.ucs.indiana.edu)*	    (umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca)
       Author of "User's Guide to		    Empire site administrator.
			   Empire"

Site address:  picard.cc.umanitoba.ca	   Port address:  7777 

Send e-mail to the Diety indicating your interest A.S.A.P.!  Include a name
for your country and a password for access - and any other information that
may apply (like how much time you have to play the game per day).


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Robert Zacharias   INTERNET: umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca   (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
	Faculty of Management                  University of Manitoba
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From: am962@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Harm)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Newbie games-I'd like to play
Date: 27 Sep 1992 22:55:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Yep. Anyone startin up a game, for newbies at Empire I want in
on it.
Hulk Frog
(harm@emunix.emich.edu)
From: fein@acsu.buffalo.edu (L. Fein)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Re: Need advice
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:03:01 GMT
Organization: Land Of Faa Department of Public Works

In article <6OCT199200442482@acad3.alaska.edu> fsjjp@acad3.alaska.edu (Mud Is My Life) writes:
>
>        I'm playing in a local game and RL has reared it's ugly head.  I 


	"RL"?

>        asked for and received a co-ruler from this group.  Now the DEITY
>        is telling me to get rid of the Co-Ruler, since it's a 1 player
>        1 country game.  I cannot logically get rid of the co-ruler
>        and expect to come back, from a few weeks at a remote job site,
>        to a viable country.  I can login every few days, but am expecting
>        my co-ruler to run the country.  Should I get rid of the Co-Ruler
>        or tell the DEITY to kiss off.
>

	Tell the deity to kiss off and he will probably turn your
country into water. If this game was announced as a one country one
ruler game, then you knew it going in, and it's your problem.

>        Correct me if I'm wrong.....but as long as your co-ruler isn't
>        playing in the same game, or HAVE played in the current game,
>        the DEITY can not justify you getting rid of the co-ruler.  
>

	He doesn't have to justify it. He set up the game. His rules.

>        The Deity is saying that my country has too much of an advantage.
>        With 2 people running the country.  Hell, I wish 2 players 
>        were running the country....I'd be at the top of the power chart.
>

	And if everyone else is running their countries by themselves, then
you do have an advantage.

>        Well, any hints would be appreciated.
>
	No hints, you can either keep the co-ruler and lose your country,
or you can dump the co ruler

>
LOF
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Looking for Thomas Retkowski
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:04:02 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Sorry about the waste of bandwidth, but I need to get in touch with
Thomas Retkowski....

Thomas, the address you gave me keeps bouncing my mail.  Please respond
to this message ASAP.

-- 
Jorge Diaz                       | Sign in a restaurant:
Georgia Institute of Technology  | 
Office of Information Technology |   "We reserve the right to serve refuse to
ccoprdj@prism.gatech.edu         |        anyone."
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (BULLDAWG)
Subject: Governers and Co-players
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:19:33 GMT

keywords:  Governers, co-players, new code?

	What does everyone think about adding some code to the server so that
co-players can be logged on at the same time as each other (no more 3 country in
use by...)?

	The code is actually very simular and has been added to Galactic
Bloodshed (an empire'ish varient).

	In GB, not only can co-players be logged on and act independently, 
but flags are added to objects such as planets or ships so that governers
have rights only in certain areas.

	I can see somthing like that... such as using the territory command
(anybody actually use that) as a governer flag.  i.e. territory 1 belongs
to governer 1, etc.

	I personally would be most happy just with multiple players being logged
onto a country and governership only applying to planes and ships...

	If someone is actually interested in coding this in, I can put you in
touch with the man who did it for GB (and the code is ANSI C).

Ken
LSF
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr)
Subject: NEWBIES WANT YOU!
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 05:34:35 GMT

Further to my last post looking for a new game for myself to play in...there
seems to be a number of new players looking for a game to join; I received
mail to the effect of "If you hear anything about a new game...let me know!"
from other users.  At my own site, a NEWBIE DIETY is thinking about starting
a game...we're that desparate!

If there's an unemployed Diety out there someone who feels like handling a
game - there's probably enough of us to start one.  It'll bring several new
players to the world of empire, I'll warron!


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R. Ross Holder, Jr.  INTERNET: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca  (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
       Department of Philosophy                The University of Manitoba
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Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: rtaylor@cie.uoregon.edu (Russ Taylor)
Subject: Re: Pixe@gatech game ends in nuclear firestorm!
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 05:08:18 GMT

Before anyone flames me, I'd like to apologize for some of the poor word-wraps
in the previous posting.  Newswatcher (on the Macintosh) is supposed to do
that for me, apparently it did a piss-poor job.  Not worth retyping the whole
thing, is it :)

(in case you're wondering, I'm reading it from my unix account right now)

Hasta!

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From: gt0924a@prism.gatech.EDU (Delgado,Mark March (Metallica, TheDeathAngel))
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Re: EuroIII called
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:37:57 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <30SEP199205512510@elroy.uh.edu> st1dg@elroy.uh.edu (Wilkinson, Damon E.) writes:
>The four remaining major powers called the game at 1am CST this morning.
>As Holand has little power left, we dont care what he thinks -

I'll remember that little snide comment, oh mighty paranoid untrusting 
fool....

>so, he can go hog wild and maybe knock me - Ireland - down to third.

heck, I wouldn't have wasted the time.....

>However, a power report as of the time the game was called has been saved.
>A more detailed post wi follow later.
>Im going back to sleep.

sleep, after making the updates for the past 3 - 4 days and seeming to be on
for 20 hours a day, proves the old addage, that time is what makes
a typical empire player capable of beating someone decent :)

>Ireland.
>kcopowe

Ironic... isn't it, that the remaining powers call the war....
no one told me... :)

so I spend a nice hour doing my best to smash me some irish scums
and they decide to call the game....
*sigh*

oh well...
in my openion, the game wasn't over, but once again people show their
unwillingness to fight a war that involves 2 things, time and effort

I'm dissapointed, after literally putting my country in a position where
the most paranoid country would attack (hello Ireland), just to 
stir up the game....

and to think, I could have been nice and worked and gotten the game called
a long time ago...

the fight should continue, but, I guess some people don't have the fight in
them.

what a bloody waste

oh, BTW, since my mail box was screwed, I couldn't read the telegrams anyhow
so I didn't know until I read RGE, just now... 

TheDeathAngel
no, I don't hold grudges, but I do remember who doesn't trust 

-- 
Mark Delgado      | "Just like the Pied Piper    | "I was just trying to survive
aka TheDeathAngel | Led Rats though the streets. |  in your wicked world." -FoG
WREKage host and  | We dance like marionettes,   |
Ex Op. Manager    | Swaying to the symphony... of Destruction!" - Megadeth
From: cammarta@bucknell.edu (aaron cammarata `93)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Newbies interested, read this...
Date: 28 Sep 1992 03:35:46 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: arcturus.cs.bucknell.edu

	I am the deity of the Bucknell Fodder Frenzy series of newbie-only 
games.  Unfortunately, I won't be able to fit it into my schedule this semester.
I am in the process of finding a replacement, and I should have someone
in the next few days.  If you want to play a newbie game, keep watching this
board on where to register, start time, etc.
	DO NOT SEND REGISTRATION INFO YET!  I'm not ready for a rush of people
yelling "When do I start?", "What's a rep name?", "Where do I get a client?", 
and so on.  I am more than happy to help once we get started, but please be
patient, and try not to waste any more bandwidth on one-liners that ask for
a newbie game to start.  I appreciate that there's growing interest in the
game, and we're working on a game for you all to learn in.  Any deities
interested in helping, please mail me.  Players, keep your eyes peeled for
more info.

				Ciao,

-- 

					Aaron


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  B4ILUVU, UCT, RU   |         Anyone who says differently is selling something."
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From: me_f316@ceres (+-=NUBIAN=-+)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: eif and ve
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:44:04 GMT
Organization: Your Girlfriend's Bedside
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Help

Is it possible to load ve into eif or vice versa
If so how??

Aaron (I want a new game please)

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Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Re: TYRO I game
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:28:38 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct6.121800.27975@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (BULLDAWG) writes:
>I sure wish the Tyro game wasn't at 12 midnight.  Nobody asked me.  I
>prefer sometime between 5PM to 9PM   }:(

5PM to 9PM, I like that!!

Spitzbergen the Newest Newbie
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: st1dg@elroy.uh.edu (Wilkinson, Damon E.)
Subject: EuroIII called
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:51:00 GMT

The four remaining major powers called the game at 1am CST this morning.
As Holand has little power left, we dont care what he thinks -
so, he can go hog wild and maybe knock me - Ireland - down to third.
However, a power report as of the time the game was called has been saved.
A more detailed post wi follow later.
Im going back to sleep.
Ireland.
kcopowe
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Robert Zacharias)
Subject: Tyro I  ->  Country List & Other Info
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 08:41:15 GMT

Thanks to all those who sent in their requests to play in Tyro I.  The
response was overwhelming and several potential countries had to be
turned away due to space restrictions.  Sorry to all those who I
couldn't register.  First off, some info about Tyro I.  The
port site, if you don't know it already, is picard.cc.umanitoba.ca 7777.
General player consensus set the update times and rates which are as
follows:  
	
	- one update per day -> which will be at 00:00 CST give or
		 		take a few minutes.  8-)
	- 50 ETU's per update.	
	- 128 by 128 worldsize.

The game will start on October 12, 1992 - at 00:01.  This is of course is
not etched in stone and may be altered.  Warning will be given well in
advance of any changes though.

Now for the country list.  A quick word about country names and passwords.

IMPORTANT(take note):
All country names and passwords will be entered in lower case.  This is
to avoid any problems at initial login since empire is case sensitive
with respect to country names and passwords.  You can change both your
country and password when in the game by using the change command.

TYRO I COUNTRY LIST
(In no particular order)

sosaria		napa		chaos 		greyhelm
strimland	amnesia		lance		tom_servo
inferno		lsf		gloom		oenone
tanos		eclipse		thorbardin	deutschland			
rad_zone	tallistan	franknpuff	kroywen
shine		brotherhood	alexandria	pohjola
esperia		europa		moose		hajtaj
shadowland	playground	dhrama		sunland
tjorn		russia		militaria	hours
lowland		anthropos	zaun		splat_city
heliconia	brigadoon	protector	tharkadia
fiedland	khazad'ur	the_reich	spitzbergen

united fed  ***(shortened from united fed of china)


Hope this covers everything.  Any problems or questions - mail me.


ROB


 

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 Robert Zacharias   INTERNET: umzach18@ccu.umanitoba.ca   (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
	Faculty of Management                  University of Manitoba
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Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
From: mcgead@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Darren McGeary)
Subject: A question.
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:17:38 GMT

    Does anyone else happen to think that its kind of ridiculous that if
a country loses its capital, that you can't do ANYTHING?  I mean isn't it
kind of stupid that a ship can't even move or lookout if a country is in
flux.  How is someone supposed to even attempt to come back if their capitol
and their backups happen to be taken?

-- 
Darren McGeary -  mcgead@rpi.edu          Freedom of religion means freedom 
PRO-CHOICE - THE AMERICAN WAY             FROM religion!!
Banish religion from government!          -These are my opinions. They just
Atheists Unite!!                           happen to also be the right ones.
From: lemonies@rita.laas.fr (Camille Le Monies de Sagazan,28B,6242)
Newsgroups: rec.games.empire
Subject: Another stupid question
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:18:58 GMT
Reply-To: lemonies@rita.laas.fr
Organization: LAAS-CNRS, Toulouse (France)

I don't know how to install Empire, or even where to get it by ftp. Is
there a "frequently asked questions about Empire" file somewhere?

		--Camille le Monies de Sagazan--