HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Electronic media losing it's value for artist
Reply-To: BrianW@SoundS.WA.com
Organization: SoundSoftware, Bellevue, WA, USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 11:03:21 GMT

morpheus <morpheus@entropy.mcds.com> writes
| pustule@cats.ucsc.edu (Thaddeus H. Wood) writes:
| > Also, when I copy data from a CDROM onto my harddisk, I notice
| > that I just can't seem to get a perfect copy.  I think it has
| > something to do with the ANALOG cable connecting the respective
| > devices to the SCSI bus.  Damn!  
| 
| Yeah, don't those analog cables suck?  I heard that new MeGa-CD players will
| have special digital power cables so there's no signal degredation from the
| wall outlet.  A friend of mine who has a friend who used to work in the
| electronics department of Macy's told me this.  He even said they were coming
| out with new 99 times oversampling surge supressors so you can be sure to get
| only the BEST power to your CD player.

Yeah, then there's the salesman at the audiophile store who's trying to sell  
you a $150 fiber optic cable made of real glass with gold-plated connectors  
because its much better than the $30 plastic one.  Well tell me how gold can  
help an optical signal when it is opaque?  If gold passed optical signals  
better, then a gold CD would have no 1 bits on it - and no music.  And the  
glass fibers are much more brittle than plastic, so they'll break sooner.

---
As the everyday world becomes more tech, only the cyber-aware will be able to  
function at full speed.  Perhaps a society is developing which will favor the  
intelligent/technical rather than shun them?
-- 
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BrianW@SoundS.WA.com	Sound Consulting and Signal Processing Software
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Mondo Bashing, etc.
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:01:01 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile) writes:
> 
> The best thing about _Mondo_ is that it is concerned with a broad 
> range of topics and things of concern to cyberCULTURE.  I think 
> that it's fantastic that as well as taking up discussions of VR, 
> smart drugs, multi-media, et cetera, they also present really 
> spinning interviews with folks like Avital Ronell 
> (deconstructionist critic, author of _The Telephone Book: 
> Technology, Schizophrenia, Electric Speech_ and _Crack Wars: 
> Literature, Addiction, Mania_ -- excellent, engaging works, BTW), 
> Constance Penley, and Diamanda Galas, and pretty well-footnoted 
> articles on stuff like the panopticon. It's great to see stuff that 
> has previously been cloistered in some of the wilder academic 
> journals and debates begin to "trickle down" to the "reading 
> public."

sounds like a poor, slick version of Whole Earth Review to me...

i saw my first ish of Mondo this weekend & it was pathetic. i'm not
going to say it isn't cyberpunk, or that it shouldn't be published
or any such silly thing. it was just so bright & happy & glossy
& completely free of nutritional content i almost gagged from the
sweetness.

jason

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Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 12:10:45 CET
From: <K317370@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Distribution: usa
 <1go3rfINN1l7@agate.berkeley.edu> <BzE25C.IoK@ns1.nodak.edu>

re this idea of giving up privacy when you answer the phone:

avita ronell (sp?) has an interesting idea along these lines
in her "telephone book", something like; its impossible to
say "no" on the phone. when you pick it up to answer, you
have already said "yes".

hmmm, whatcha think about that?
tim
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: Re: getting a life
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:16:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.220342.2725@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> gpeel@mta.ca writes:
>In article <1gaug3INNotj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an127@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
> (Korac MacArthur) writes:
>>
>>In a previous article, gpeel@mta.ca () says:
>>
>>> To all of the repressed nerds, I have carefully sifted through this trash 
>>>and have come to the conclusion that all of you need serious psychological 
>>>treatment or try getting ount in the real world. In short get a fucking life!
>>>
>>	I know,   William Shatner says this in an old Saturday Night
>>Live!   Who says we need a fucking life, we have trivial pursuit (one and
>>the same?)!
>>
>>	don't you worry about it peel old bean, the world will still
>>turn tomorrow, even with us "repressed nerds" on board.   Stereotypes
>>can be hazardous to your health.
>>
>>-- 
>>Hey, George.....Nah na na na, NA NA NA NA,  HEEEY   HEYYY HEY,
>>GOOOOOODDDDBYYYEEEE!!!!!!   (and good riddance)
>>
>
>	Well it's nice to see someone reply to my message. By the way
>Korac (what kind of name is that anyway) my name is not George, I thought all
> of you Cyber-punks spent all of your time on your computer not watching T.V?

Look shitfuck, YOU are the one who needs to get "ount" in the real world if you don't know which George he was referring to, especially since you are the one watching the "T.V"

> 
>	But onto something new, I've had a look at this work called Agrippa and
> I have to admit it sucks shit, it's just a bunch of repetative trash! 

Well, I won't comment on the "repetative" trash comment, since these two posts make me think this is just flame bait... but whether or not you are serious or just playing around with your new freshman account ("Gawd!  and I thought BBSs were cool!"), you are still a dick.

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From: morpheus <morpheus@entropy.mcds.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 09:30:05 EST
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia

mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:

> On receiving a call with caller ID blocked, one thing you could do is pick
> up the receiver and say, "If you want to talk to me, call back without
> blocking caller ID," and hang up.
> 
> But could you distinguish (a) a caller who has deliberately blocked 
> caller ID, from (b) a caller from a place that simply doesn't have it yet?

quoting from a tech ref about the Rockwell chipset...

>>>> If the calling party's directory number is not available to the    <<<<
>>>> terminating central office, the data word field contains an ASCII  <<<<
>>>> "O".  If the calling party invokes the privacy capability, the     <<<<
>>>> data word field contains an ASCII "P".                             <<<<

CND boxes can tell the difference..


morpheus@entropy.mcds.com ("morph")   |   A name changes toys into tools..
Obsolete diety for hire.  Cheap.      |          - Skinny Puppy
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: pete@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: AGRIPPA
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:47:06 GMT

cri@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mr. PlEaSanT) writes:

>AGRIPPA
>(A Book of The Dead)
>Text by William Gibson
>Etchings by Dennis Ashbaugh
>(C)1992 Kevin Begos Publishing
>1411 York Ave.
>New York, NY
>All Rights Reserved

[...]

The repetition is verbatim? Or did "the virus" cause this article to
auto-felch? Or is this a put on? I didn't see Maddox's "shot" quote here ...

But I'm surprised - if this is actually Gibson's Agrippa I actually liked
it. The guy should stay away from prose and do more of this.

-- 
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                       I am a big pond in a small fish.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher)
Subject: Re: Agrippa
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:42:19 GMT

>Correct me if I am wrong, but will not such self-erasing works become a
>necessity on an electronic medium in order for artists to earn their daily
>bread? Think about it: if information can be replicated and distributed at
>zero cost, all knowledge loses its economic value as soon as it is released.
>
> Bob Hall

If I buy a book I want to be able to read it over and over again through the
years if it is good enough. A book isn't worth much if you can only read it
once, especially if you need to keep on reading at a set pace.

Sure, maybe SOMETHING needs to be done so artists can get paid but it's been
like this with paper books for a long time... A scanner and OCR software and
you can have an entire novel in electronic form as fast as you can shove the
pages in. With the number of scanners now it's not availability that's
stopping people, rather it's lack of desire, and that's something that will
exist regardless of the media.
From: steve@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve (PrettyBoy) Barclay)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:04:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: mikejag (mike) is a private system in Vancouver, BC, Canada

It seems to me that most of the folks on here with objections to people 
having there numbers set up so that they DONT show on caller ID would do well
just to pay for an answering service.

There are cases where people are going to demand that their numbers be blocked
so that they can maintain their privacy.  For example, my friend Spider is fairly well known in SF circles, and frequently has to call people on Convention 
Comittees.  If he dosn't know the folks, he is not going to want them to be
able to get his phone number off of a little box attached to their phone.  If
he wants them to have his number, he'll give it to them.  So lets say you get
a call and you don't see an ID number.  Do you refuse it?  Hell no!  Let the
answering machine pick up the call.  If they don't leave a message, then 
chances are they're someone you didn't want to talk to regardless.  But to
refuse all calls based solely on the fact that there's no caller ID number is
silly.  You never know who you're turning away!

Incidently, Spider has this message on his answering machine.  "Hi we 
concentrate for a living.  If you won't talk to the machine, you can't talk
to us."  It works damned efectively.  And he still doesn't need caller ID.

Steve

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: gbartoli@netcom.com (Guy Bartoli II)
Subject: Re: AGRIPPA
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:47:00 GMT

man without a conscious (ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: Re: all the requests to post/send Agrippa....
: 
: It is on ftp sites...it is available via auto-mailers....

Thanks in advance ... Now the next thing is to get ahold of the actual disk
(complete with encryption "virus") in order to see how it was put together.

: 
: The real version is propagating, the incorrect version does not seem
: to be.  Thus, there is no reason to publically, obviously subject
: onesself to obvious copyright violations if it is not necessary.
: 
Even better news! I'd hate to have to comb the net to only find ditributions
of the screwed up version. :)

: --
: 
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: 

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: gpeel@mta.ca
Subject: getting a life
Reply-To: gpeel@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:39:07 GMT

 To all of the repressed nerds, I have carefully sifted through this trash 
and have come to the conclusion that all of you need serious psychological 
treatment or try getting ount in the real world. In short get a fucking life!
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
From: sumner@cs.scarolina.edu (David Sumner)
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:41:16 GMT


Maybe this has been mentioned alread - I haven't
followed this thread from the start. But, sears sells
s caller ID device that allows you to block blocked
calls. If a blocked call arrives, it gets rejected and
the caller gets a message saying that this number will
not accept blocked calls. I think it is Sears 370 Caller ID.
I have one, but haven't yet actually tried this feature.
I LOVE Caller ID! It is a great service.
 
David Sumner
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: space2@hardy.u.washington.edu (Tim)
Subject: Warten (Forwarded mail about German cp pub and stuff)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:59:23 GMT

 
i just wanna drop a couple of lines and i don't know whether to post 'em or to
send to u. so ...
[ well I felt this was of general interest so I'm posting it for you - Tim]
 
a couple of years ago we started to work on a mag - WARTEN. friend of mine
owned an amiga 500 and one of the old, slow modems. that's how i learned about
cp and alt.cp. we even published some excerpts in the mag which finally was
published 2 years ago. (lack of money. we even managed to bring the whole mag
to the printer - but there it stayed 4 2 years ... when the wall came down an
east-berlin publisher said he was interested. he published it. 3 years after
we'd finished working on it. by the way - WARTEN means >>to wait<<)
 
contents: interview with wg, another one with wsb, prose by wb and rkadrey. an
essay by stelarc - i think this piece had been published in the US by now. if
there's interest i can upload it. we had articles on srl and on conspiray
theory, we published excerpts from the very first - then unpublished - academic
work on amphetamines. and the usual stuff on (machine) performance groups,
prose by a lot of people who belong to the German subculture (influenced by the
US beats). (oh i forgot to mention mrs acker). Lots of addresses - mostly from
>>high weirdness by mail<<, a lenghty essay on jonestown. it's huge, great
pictures - and yaz, it's called WARTEN. pieces are in English and German.
our second edition came out in 1992. less cp. more art, theories,
high-end-media & subculture. looks more chromy.
 
this year we didn't edit another issue - but organized an interactive
multimedia tv-event. it was linked to the the DOCUMENTA in kassel, it was
broadcasted europewide via satellite, sometimes there were uplinks to Canada,
the US and Japan. it was hell of a chaos and pretty exhausting. the whole
project was managed by a Hamburg based media-org PONTON EUROPEAN MEDIA ART LAB
a.k.a. VAN GOGH TV. berlin was one of the linked stations. among other things
we (berlin) broadcasted irc to bring together people from all over the world.
well, in february and june 1993 same thing will happen
again. hope that someone is interested in participating.
 
best
rudolf
ots@uropax.contrib.de

[I think we would all like to see any of the articles you wish to upload 
here from this work and more info on the events you have planned for '93]

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From: mykel.alvis@the-matrix.com (Mykel Alvis) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: AGRIPPA
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: mykel.alvis@the-matrix.com (Mykel Alvis) 


YUM> That "Are you absolutely sure you want to to this?" message when
   > posting is there for a reason.  Read what you're going to post before
   > posting.  

Didn't realize we *had* a moderator here.  Add another fact to the 
"Big Book of Shit I Didn't Know"

Praise Bob

Mykel


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From: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Subject: RE: VRship harbour hamgurg.de
Keywords: music
Reply-To: lm011@aix370.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Alexander Tuchacek)
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 15:20:19 GMT



Call for international participation in new art/science project.
KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
Simulation Room -Mosaic of Mobile Sound Data
We are a group of artists and scientists at the Academy of Media
Arts Cologne,  and will be showing a VR installation in February at
the MEDIALE93 - Festival for Media Arts and Media Future - in
Hamburg, Germany. The installation, housed in the freight ship Cap
San Diego in Hamburg - harbour, has three main areas.
Section one is a sophisticated, walk - in data - base  utilising a
collection of sound samples from around the world, which will be
used to produce a virtual 'sound room'.  The sound data will
correspond to the second section,  a physical room, where visitors
will be able to navigate through the space with the aid of a mobile
ultrasonic sensor and an artificial eye display and activate the data 
to a realtime-concert.
The action of the visitors, within  this 'virtual organism,' will be
displayedon a video screen shown in a control room area (the third
area).
We welcome your participation for the international sound - data -
base: To participate in this international project we need from you a
6 second long sound sample, a cultural statement, reflecting
your personal attitude towards the "world". Please send this via
email or ftp. (aiff, wave, next formats)
All participants and institutions will be credited in a publicly
displayed database during the exhibition.
For more information by email from: kr+cf@khm.uni-koeln.de
Thank you for your support - KNOWBOTIC RESEARCH
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: new idea
Date: 12 Dec 92 06:00:11 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

In article <1992Dec11.190222.3478@scott.skidmore.edu> jconklin@scott.skidmore.edu (jason conklin) writes:
>QUESTION: Just how exactly are homosexuals detrimental to our soiety?


Ummm...... 12!

	Jason
	Ono-Sendai R&D
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (your unconscious mind)
Subject: Re: getting a life
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 17:32:19 GMT

Somewhere in Cyberspace, gpeel@mta.ca said about 'getting a life':
|In article <1gaug3INNotj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an127@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
| (Korac MacArthur) writes:
|>
|>In a previous article, gpeel@mta.ca () says:
|>
|>> To all of the repressed nerds, I have carefully sifted through this trash 
|>>and have come to the conclusion that all of you need serious psychological 
|>>treatment or try getting ount in the real world. In short get a fucking life
|>>
|>	I know,   William Shatner says this in an old Saturday Night
|>Live!   Who says we need a fucking life, we have trivial pursuit (one and
|>the same?)!
|>
|>	don't you worry about it peel old bean, the world will still
|>turn tomorrow, even with us "repressed nerds" on board.   Stereotypes
|>can be hazardous to your health.
|>
|>-- 
|>Hey, George.....Nah na na na, NA NA NA NA,  HEEEY   HEYYY HEY,
|>GOOOOOODDDDBYYYEEEE!!!!!!   (and good riddance)
|>
|
|	Well it's nice to see someone reply to my message. By the way
|Korac (what kind of name is that anyway) my name is not George, I thought all
| of you Cyber-punks spent all of your time on your computer not watching T.V?

Who cares if your name is George or not?  If he wants it to be, then
it is.

"I thought all you cyberpunks"....hahaha, very smart move here Earl...
First, you post a message saying for all of us to get a life (mine is
completely satisfying and out-there, thank you fuckin' much), and then
you post a message proving you have no idea what this is all about...
Fred, take my advice, read a group, do some net.away reSEARCH
in/f0-gathering before you post to a group....Bob, that "are you
absolutely sure" message is there for a reason....

|	But onto something new, I've had a look at this work called Agrippa and
| I have to admit it sucks shit, it's just a bunch of repetative trash! 

Hare, you have really done it this time...You old |<00|<-3 |<aT!!!!!  
If you had known what Agrippa is all about (sorry, I'm setting high
expectations of fellow alt.cp.posters) you would know that isn't the
real cop-E.....

Latter, Dave.....Reply anytime you wish, Hal....

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: alis@Turing.ORG (Alis G. Marks)
Subject: Re: AGRIPPA
Summary: the previous posting incomplete!
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:12:02 GMT

Please, cri@acsu.buffalo.edu or anyone else who has recieved and has to give 
a transcribed copy of this poem, could you post the complete thing?  The 
previous posting includes parts 5 and 4 (they seem to be in descending order)
and has at least one character missing (since one of the words is 'n').  I
would greatly like to see the rest of it.  And personally, I dislike poetry.
Thank you.

alis@Turing.ORG

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From: mdk@col.hp.com (Mark Keisling)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:39:59 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpctdjj.col.hp.com

cmwolf@mtu.edu (christopher m. wolf) writes:
> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> >Personally, I want to be able to block anonymous calls at the CO, so
> >someone calling me with blocked ID would only reach a recording... "I'm
> >sorry, the number you have dialed does not accept anonymous callers.
> >Please hang up and re-place your call with ID enabled."
> 
> What will you people do if someone calls from a payphone?
>
The device I'm working on would allow a caller to press a key on a touch-tone
phone in order to ring through.  I would only use caller-id to save them that
trouble.  If the number is not recognized then the caller gets a message
stating that IF they are not phone soliciting... THEN they may press 1
to ring through.  If the number is recognized, then the phone rings as
normal (minus the first ring).  Of course this strategy falls through if
the caller is calling from a rotary phone or if they press 1 without meeting
my stated requirements.  This system won't stop obscene calls, but I haven't
been entertained by someone's heavy breathing routine for some time.
> 
> And why do you seem to believe you are "owed" the number of the person calling?
> You haven't had it for years.
> 
The 'you haven't had it for years' argument is pretty weak.
I don't feel I'm owed the number, but now that technology has found a way
to cheaply provide it to me, I'm going to use it.

Mark.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk