Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Women in Islam  
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:08:47 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

  
> The question I have is this:  God has given women  
> certain rights.  I am almost certain that the vast majority of women in  
> Turkey will not find these rights sufficient, I for one do not.  How do  
> you propose to deal with this situation?  Other than a call to us to be  
> better Muslims and to accept what God has provided?   
  
Are you trying to bargain with us or with the God ?  
  
> In the case of secular law, law is always subject to revision and  
> change if needed.  Islamic law is based on the Koran, which one takes to  
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
How do you know ?  
and the secular law based on what ?  
  
> be the word of God.  As such, Islam does not provide a venue for change  
> to suit its people, and furthermore dictates a ROLE in society for all  
> of its subjects.    
  
Kuran doesn't dictate any role in any society...but it is revealed as   
a guidance to human-beings who think and use intellect..who are  
capable to take the responsibilities of their religion in their  
own hands..  
  
> There is no way in Islam to change this ROLE for women, and  
> I would like to find out what possible means of dealing with the issue  
> of change in Islam exist.  
  
Kuran doesn't dictate any role in any society...but it is revealed as   
a guidance to human-beings who think and use intellect..who are  
capable to take the responsibilities of their religion in their  
own hands..  
   
> I would like to know how different Islamic schools envision their  
> Utopia in relation to women.  Do women get to vote?  Do they get to be  
  
Ask this question to yourself, why do you think that you would follow  
the suggestions of others ? Are you NOT capable to read the message  
of your God ? and think about it ? and do something about it ?  
Are you NOT a human being enough to be addressed by the God directly ?  
:-> And you think that you are some liberated soul ? What a pity ?  
  
> judge?  Do they get to be elected and to serve?  Do they function in the  
> military?  Can they be prime minister?  How do you handle practical  
> issues of education?  Do you segregate the schools?  How do you then  
> ensure that equivalent levels of education are provided?  How would you  
> like female theologians? How do we handle contraception and abortion?  
> Who decides whether or not 'test tube babies' get inheritance?   
> How do we handle female long distance swimmers in purdah? How do you  
> propose the life of a woman in her early twenties wishing to study  
> engineering abroad would be? :-)..     
  
The Book of the God is NOT revealed to a group of people called muslims.  
It is revealed to you and me, to human-beings. Therefore, rather than  
asking others all above questions, go read the message of your God,  
and use intellect, and do something about it...rather than handing  
over your questions to some others who won't even be held responsible  
if the mis-guide you ... Or, are you NOT that much liberated free  
woman yet ??!  
Use intellect woman !  
   
> regards,  
> Deniz Akkus deniz@ctr.columbia.edu  
>   
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