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From: barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Barbara Kane)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: If You Were Santa and You Visited Cicely ...
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:07:19 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <18424@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
>Let's do something in the Christmas vein. If you were Santa and you visited
>Cicely, what would you give to each of the main characters in Cicely?
>

Didn't TV GUIDE do something like this last year?  I vaguely remember a 
profile listing what Santa would give each of the characters.  Can anyone
confirm?



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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Judge from 12/14 episode
Organization: Clark University
Date: 16 DEC 92 23:04:58 GMT

Don't believe I've seen this in any previous posts...

If I'm not mistaken, the judge this past week was played by Anne Haney, who 
has also been a judge in L.A. Law.  And she had a guest spot in Star Trek: The 
Next Generation (Third season, "The Survivors").  Gets around.

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From: pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN)
Subject: Re: "Crime and Punishment" -- Legal Questions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 17 Dec 1992 12:57 MST  

In article <rizzoe.583.724611505@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU>, rizzoe@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Emily Rizzo) writes...
{In article <1992Dec16.212424.12624@ultb.isc.rit.edu> pga0625@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Paul Ackerman) writes:
{ 
{ 
{>         I have a question regarding Mike and why he was able to represent
{>    Chris at his hearing.  I'm not a legal expert, but isn't it true that
{>    one must pass the ABA exam of that particular state before being
{>    allowed to practice there?  (Just a little something I learned from
{>    "Cousin Vinny"). 



I am going to be nitpicky because I am bored. So bear with me. In order to
be recognized in front of a court in any state you need to be admitted to
practice in that state.  For most states, and granted I don't know about
Alaska, a fairly comprehensive exam is required. The glich here--in most
states, the bar exam is only offered a COUPLE of times a year. In the
states in our intermountain <rocky mountain> region, the bar exam is
offerred once a year.  Generally, when a lawyer has a case that crosses
state boundries in which he must be recognized before a judge, local
counsel is appointed in that state. However, as expert witnesses and
in non-litigation related categories, lawyers can do as they choose.
Lawyers can be listed on pleadings <legal documents> or advise regardless
of their status in a state. However, this is Alaska, and this is fiction,
so, they can do whatever they please. I think what matters is WHO signs the 
pleadings and who actually argues the case. I'll have to ask my lawyer
father about that one :)

ALSO, no judge would ever have put  up with that line of reasoning.
In this case, she was probably bored and knew there would be a delay
so she might have used it as a way to pass the time.

IMHO, I highly doubt Mike has had time in his brief relocation to
Cicely to take the bar exam. And being that he isolates himself from
society, generally, I don't see why he would want to.
Another thought--since this is an extradition case, wouldn't it be
Federal? 

BUT, I absolutely loved this episode. One of the best so far this
season.

Suspension of disbelief, people! :) This isn't a True-To-life-Drama


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From: krier@plains.NoDak.edu (Jeanine Krier)
Subject: Re: Maruice sighting
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:46:56 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Dec19.045858.3124@u.washington.edu> zeno@phylo.genetics.washington.edu (Sean Lamont) writes:
>Ever since I started watching NX I'd been trying to remember where I'd
>seen the actor that played maurice.  I was just watching TV movie reruns and saw 'wargames', and it hit me.  He played Barringer from norad.
>

I have been seeing Maurice in quite a few different roles.  I can't remember 
them all, but I have seen him in about 8 different movies.  Two that come to 
mind, " Eight is Enough Christmas Reunion"  and "Career Opportunities".  It 
seems he almost always plays a police officer.

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From: H. Nunes <hwnunes@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Time/season opener
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A74E8114A50100F0@naranja-pc-175.stanford.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:32:04 GMT
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 01:32:05 GMT

In article <tbubj1y@Unify.Com> Barbara Kane, barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com writes:
>>>	On the repeat of the season opener, chris states that he has been running
>>the 
>>>board for 3 years.  Meaning he has been the dj at KBEAR for 3 years.  Was
>>>he the DJ during the first season?
>>
>>How did I miss this... I need my tapes.
>>
>>If this is true, then this conflicts the scene in "Kodiac" when Maurice says
>>that he has known Chris for five years, or that Chris has worked for him for
>>three years.
>
>It doesn't conflict.  Chris was the DJ when the show started - which was,
>as we've established, not as long ago in NX time as in real time.  Also,
>just because Maurice new him and/or Chris worked for Maurice does not
>confirm he was a DJ the whole time. AND even if he was the DJ, someone
>else (like Ed, maybe - though I doubt Ed has the electronic knowledge)
>could have been running the board.  I was under the impression when the
>show began that Chris hadn't been at the mike for a terribly long time.

or maybe maurice was running the board.
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From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen)
Subject: Re: Chris' hearing
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:26:28 GMT

In article <15DEC199215565430@juliet.caltech.edu>, waynebro@juliet.caltech.edu (Broughton, Wayne Jeremy) writes:

|> I guess I found Mike's line of defence too, well, silly, to be credible. 

I thought it was just perfect, considering in was Chris that he was defending.
It was a very Chris-like defense, but it came out of left field, surprising
even Chris. BTW, did we know before that show that Chris shares his middle
name (Danforth) with a certain high placed village idiot government official?

|>   - the irony of Maurice pointing out that Sergeant Semanski "doesn't
|> have a conscience" despite the fact that she apparently thinks she is
|> following hers very closely by unswerving devotion to the law.  She is
|> a female Javert (of Hugo's "Les Miserables").

My favorite crack-up in this show was that she spent the hour during one of 
the recesses handing out parking tickets.
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From: hee@cs.columbia.edu (Edward Hee)
Subject: Re: "Crime and Punishment" -- Legal Questions
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:12:47 GMT
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: NEXP : December 21 episode (new, Christmas) ** Partial Spoiler **
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:05:11 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>I am 31 and Jewish and from
>New York so I think I should know.  Jews of our generation don't say
>"toidy toid street" for "thirty-third street" but our grandparents
>did.

Well, you learn something everyday...  I assumed it was *all*
New Yorkers that had the bad accent :-)
-- 
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From: cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Chris' hearing
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:38:19 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <1992Dec16.183540.19917@b15.ingr.com> reagan@fedsrus.b15.ingr.com writes:
>	What is the status on Bernard?  Has he moved to Alaska?  Does he have a
>job?  I am assuming he simply took a vacation when he went to Africa to find
>himself.  Did he ever go back to his original job?  Wasn't he an accountant or
>something?  He seems to be in Cicely quite a bit lately.

	Maybe someone who has a better memory or feels like going through
taped episodes can support this, but...
	As I recall, there was a episode a while back (post-Africa) where
Bernard showed up and proudly displayed his new jeep ranger to Chris saying
that his job now has something to do with working with the Russians and
that he would be driving up to be ferried across the Bering Strait.  As a
result, he said that he should be stopping by Cicely more often.

						Cliff Chen
						cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:40:31 EST
From: James Justice <JAY@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Chris' hearing
 <009651E3.C8A9DDC0@vms.csd.mu.edu>

In article <1992Dec15.042055.13563@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen) writes:
>
>
>WOW! WHat an episode.  Clearly, by far, the best of the season, and maybe
>one of the best all time.  It was absolutly beautiful from the arrest scene
>to the closing.  It's such a relief to watch such quality entertainment in
>the midst of all these holiday specials.


I agree.  I am from West Virginia (born here and still here) and I found
the comments by Joel on Deliverance and the big house (Moundsville State Pen)
very funny!  Moundsville is certainly not a fun place but Deliverance didn't
happen in WV.  Chris' comments about Wheeling and WV are always hilarious.  The
crazed version of his childhood was ridiculous but I liked it.

I liked the conversation between Ed and Shelly about crushing the poor frogs
and confession making everything alright!  "But the frogs are still dead!"

And Chris becoming a minister by answering the ad in Rolling Stone is always
a good one.

Marline's testimony was great:  "I like him!" "Do you want to add anything?"
"No."
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Subject: Mike and Maggie
From: cblst1+@pitt.edu (Cheri B Luzer)
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:38:18 GMT
Distribution: alt.tv.northern-exp
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I agree with you all that Mike should be done away with. I really hate him. 
I feel they should kill him and then next season let Joel get Maggie on the
rebound!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...............................................................................
cblst1@vms.cis.pitt.edu

Eat a groudhog and like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
					-cheri-
..............................................................................


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From: mas@porgy.jpl.nasa.gov (Marc A. Sarrel)
Subject: Maurice's NASA cap
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:16:57 GMT


I haven't read through the Prodigy listing, yet.  Did the actor who
plays Maurice answer questions?  I just thought of one I would have
liked to ask him (or maybe the producers/directors/writers as well):

Will they have Maurice start wearing a NASA cap with the meatball logo
instead of the current one he wears with the worm logo, now that NASA
has gone back to the meatball?  I think they could even have Maurice
wax nostalgic about the meatball and revell in its return.  (ie:  this
is the logo from the time when men were _real_ men, women were _real_
women and small fuzzy creatures from Alpha Centauri were _real_ small
fuzzy creatures from Alpha Centauri...)

Also, what's the address where I could send this suggestion?  Would
they read it, or just send it back unopened for legal reasons?

Just a thought...

--marc
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From: dgibson@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Duncan Gibson)
Subject: Re: NX Timeline
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:04:19 GMT

jlassen@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jeremy M. Lassen) writes:

>	On the repeat of the season opener, I noticed when Chris was waxing
>poetic about his certificate, he stated "I've been running the board for 3
>years, and now I've got a piece of paper that says I know  how to do it"
>(paraphrase)
>	He was of course refering to how long he has been a DJ at KBEAR.
>Was He the DJ for KBEAR during the first season?  the Pilot?  I think this

Yep! Being in Australia, its not hard to remember the first episode &
pilot. We've only had about 3 epipisodes.
It is quit early on (pilot I think) that Chris reads from Walt Wittman
books on the breakfast show and mentions that WW had unusual sexual
leanings. After which he is tossed through the window.

>is a major clue as to the producers time line of NX, especially since it was
>on the season Premier.  Any thoughts...

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From: tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold)
Subject: Re: NEXP : December 21 episode (new, Christmas) ** Partial Spoiler **
Reply-To: tommy@boole.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:51:48 GMT

The writers certainly do not aim to make each character a stereotype,
so it is certainly plausible that Joel is a Republican.  It is
appropriate for his age, anyway.  Many people under 35 are Republican
where their parents are Democrats.  Also, I think his mannerisms are
appropriate for a New York Jew his age.  I am 31 and Jewish and from
New York so I think I should know.  Jews of our generation don't say
"toidy toid street" for "thirty-third street" but our grandparents
did.
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From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: How did Maggie's boyfriends die?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 13:32:04 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: nochovies.meaddata.com

In article <7154@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu>, bates@spica.ucsb.edu (Andrew M. Bates,,,COMS,Graduate) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec9.202928.4637@leland.Stanford.EDU> hwnunes@leland.stanford.edu (H. Nunes) writes:
|> >
|> >This is straight from the alt.tv.northern-exp FAQ (NX-FAQ).
|> >
|> >I only can find an older version of the FAQ, but here it is.
|> >
|> >	Harry ---- potato salad at a picnic
|> >
|> >	Bruce ---- victim of a terrible fishing accident 
|> >		(Fell into a canning machine-- was buried in individual tuna cans).
|> 
|> PLEASE someone correct this!  Bruce did NOT, I repeat NOT fall into a canning
|> machine.  That was Abe Kellogg, an old friend of Holling's. 

Oops! A kind soul sent me this piece of info, and I included it in the FAQ.
Consider it corrected (the canning machine part, that is - did Bruce still die
in a fishing accident? - please reply via email)

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From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: 12/14 Show
Date: 16 Dec 1992 13:36:32 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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In article <9212160244.AA29225@JETHRO.CS.NYU.EDU>, deragon@JETHRO.CS.NYU.EDU (John Deragon) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 	Now did my eyes deceive me, or did Ed go to the bathroom when Ruth-Ann
|> and the Judge were shooting clays?
|> 
|> 	It seems like when Ed went to the truck to get some "Blue Clay", he
|> acutally went behind the truck, and appeared to be taking a leak.  Did
|> anyone else catch this?  It was kinda cute, he kept looking backwards
|> to where Ruth-Ann and the Judge we having coffee, trying to look innocent.

I also caught this, and what I think was a continuity goof. When the scene
begins, Elizabeth shoots the first clay pigeon. Then Ruth-Ann asks Ed for
two, and Ed says he has to go back to the truck to get more. Ruth-Ann and
Elizabeth talk for a while, then they all return. Then we see Elizabeth, not
Ruth-Ann, loading her rifle and she shoots the two pigeons instead of
Ruth-Ann. And yes, Ed did shoot some extremely guilty looks their way while
at the truck :-)

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From: pbd@runyon.cim.cdc.com (Paul Dokas)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: For you Adam fans
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:59:19 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems, Inc.

I found some interesting pieces of information while reading an interview
with Adam Arkin in American Theater.  I'm just going to paraphrase what
I can remember.

  - He really enjoys being Adam (the character), because "it's not often
    that one gets to play a character who has such a huge mask on" (a
    paraphrase of course).

  - He's going to direct an episode of NX in January.

  - He's been doing a lot of work in New York (he now lives there with
    his wife and young child) mostly on broadway.  He'll be there
    at least through the holidays.

All that I can remember for now.
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From: waynebro@juliet.caltech.edu (Broughton, Wayne Jeremy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Chris' hearing
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:56 PST
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec15.161929.18943@tessi.com>, george@tessi.com (George Mitchell) writes...
>rmt6r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Roy Matthew Thigpen) writes:
>>WOW! WHat an episode.  Clearly, by far, the best of the season, and maybe
>>one of the best all time.
> 
>I looked as hard as I could for the smiley-face, but couldn't find it.
>Sorry, but last night's episode was a real let-down for me.  It was a
>demonstration of exactly why Mike Monroe does not fit into the Cicely
>that we know and want to love.
> 
I'm glad that I am not the only one out there who wasn't overjoyed with
last night's episode.  It certainly had its good parts (as all the episodes
do), but I found the main plot dragged a bit.  I guess I found Mike's 
line of defence too, well, silly, to be credible.  It certainly brought
up some interesting questions of identity (I particularly liked Joel's
contribution to the hearing and Chris' response to it, ie. on materialism
and dualism), but I just didn't think Mike presented it well: his speeches
seemed flat and unconvincing.  I had hoped he would show himself to be a
brilliant lawyer, but I don't think he did.  

Good stuff: - fascinating interaction between Ruth-Ann and Judge Percy
(what was her first name?  Elizabeth?).  We saw a number of interesting
facets of Percy's character, and I don't think I have seen Ruth-Ann with
a gun before!  
  - Bernard.  He is a neat guy to have around and complements Chris well
(and seems more intelligent and more appropriate to be philosophizing!).
I also liked the way Bernard "didn't mince words" but "cut to the chase"
(quoting Maurice!) and called Maurice a bigot to his face.  I wonder if
this will be the beginning of a change in Maurice;  I doubt it, but it
was about time somebody told him what he is!  Also neat what Bernard
thought about the whole thing.
  - the irony of Maurice pointing out that Sergeant Semanski "doesn't
have a conscience" despite the fact that she apparently thinks she is
following hers very closely by unswerving devotion to the law.  She is
a female Javert (of Hugo's "Les Miserables").
  - Maggie attacking Joel for presumed sexism when he had just been decrying
Shelly's stereotyping;  I think he should have fired back and let Maggie 
know what he had really said.
  - interesting anecdotes of how Chris had helped people in the past,
and a fascinating look at the "old" Chris' background.  So that was 
the famous prison scene we had heard about.

Happy holidays,

Wayne.
**********************************************************************

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they think I'm working right now...
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From: kimi@fang.att.com (Kimiye Tipton)
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure Merchandise
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:44:43 GMT

In article <15DEC199213491904@cc.utah.edu> pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN) writes:
>The phone number for the Northern Exposure merchandise catalogue is:
>
>1-800-762-6600
>
>If you call, have your credit card ready. They ask for all that
>information before you even order.

Whew--what a pain this was!  The woman kept asking me for a credit
card number even though all I wanted was a catalog, and she couldn't
give me a price.  Once she keyed in the order, though, the computer
stopped asking for the card number.  Just to save you five minutes
of frustration :-)...

Did get the address for Customer Service (no phone)

Northern Exposure 
P.O. Box 800197
Houston, TX  72280-0197


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From: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Kill Mike off
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:49:00 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <00964E45.B8E936C0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, uphrrmb@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>
>	I say yes, kill him off soon.  Somebody who is so afraid to live as he
>is would certainly deserve any demise that awaits him.  The suggestion above
>with the lingering cloud of antifreeze gas sounds good to me.  

How 'bout this:  He can't get Maurice's astronaut helmet off and suffocates
inside his germ-free suit.
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