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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: fat kitty
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Distribution: usa,na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:29:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.062931.1@stsci.edu> lhuffman@stsci.edu writes:
|In article <1992Dec10.013115.1020@cgrg.ohio-state.edu>, demetri@cgrg.ohio-state. writes:
|> Our cat Moxie has turned into quite a barrel of a cat of late.  We have
|> both of our cats on free feeding dry food.  If we feed her once or twice a
|> day she will wolf the food down so fast she has to hurl on the carpet.
|> Also, our other cat Socrates could not stand to lose any weight; he's
|> already lost quite a bit due to an abdominal tumor. Ideas?
|
|I read or heard somewhere (a source I judged reputable) that cats will overeat  
|on food that is low quality. Sort of like making up in quantity for what 
|lacks quality although they never seem to get enough of either when the food
|is not supplying them with what they need.

Well, that could be it, or maybe not.

My previous cat Woody was fed the way I feed all my cats -- canned food twice
a day and freefeeding of dry food (then Meow Mix -- now I'm switching over
from Pro-Plan to Anmar).

Woody was just fine on this unless I came home late from work.  It would get
past his feeding time, he would start worrying about his food situation, and
then he would eat EVERY BIT OF DRY FOOD IN THE BOWL, and then get sick on the
carpet.

He would also do this when I would go away for a weekend and leave him at home.

So, perhaps Moxie is worried that if she doesn't eat all the food RIGHT NOW,
it will be taken away from her and she won't get all she knows she needs...

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

I get up each morning, gather my wits.
Pick up the paper, read the obits.
If I'm not there I know I'm not dead.
So I eat a good breakfast and go back to bed.

Oh, how do I know my youth is all spent?
My get-up-and-go has got-up-and-went.
But in spite of it all, I'm able to grin,
And think of the places my get-up has been.
		-- Pete Seeger
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Plant question
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:19:33 GMT

In article <1hsbnjINNspp@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>, loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
> ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
> 
>    The question is:
>    are spider plants poisonous to my kitty cats??
> 
> It seems they are not harmful to your kitty cats, but the reverse is
> very likely to be true.  :-)  Spider plants are preferred by 9 kitties
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
> out of 10 over any other type of plant for munching on!  So either
  ^^^^^^^^^
> hang the plant well out of the reach of the cats, or be prepared to
> have it be severely mangled.
> 
> -Sandra

Ha Ha Ha Ho Ho  He He He.   How true. My cats chase after me when I TAKE
THEM ( plants ) FROM THEIR HANGERs ON THE CEILING to be watered. And I have 
soak them in the tub in the bathroom, with the door shut.
From: malesov@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat is constipated
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:41:46 GMT

ralf@iqsc.COM (Ralf) writes:
> My poor cat is constipated, she craps now whenever she can get it out,
>where ever she can get it out. She stands in the litter box sometimes for
>ten minutes or more.  It is getting messy not to mention I don't like
>to see her that way, any help would be great! Thanks

One of my cats had the same type of problem.  There are a couple of things
you can try that I think might have helped.

One thing is to make sure there is plenty of FRESH water available, 
especially if the cat eats only dry food.  I had one of those automatic
water bowls that always kept the bowl filled.  I noticed she was not 
drinking from it (she would sniff it, and walk away).  I assumed it was
not fresh enough, so I now put out fresh water twice a day.

Another thing to try is a good dose of hairball medicine.

When I did these things, the problem cleared up (although it could have
been a coincidence).

Good luck.  This too shall pass. :-)

Russell
(Ashley & Inky)

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Russell Malesovas				Alcatel Network Systems
malesov@sooner.aud.alcatel.com			Richardson, TX
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lmacdona@fairfax.stfx.ca (Leigh MacDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: What is FAQ?
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:21:55 GMT
Organization: University Computer Services, St. Francis Xavier University

Hello Everyone!


I am new to this newsgroup or any newsgroup for that matter.  I have a
Silver-Shaded Persian named, Cindy.  She is going to be 10 years old
on March 16.  

I have a couple of concerns.

1.  I was reading about cats and pregnancy.  Some of you were talking
about litter boxes and the disease toxo......  To find out more information
one should read FAQ.  Well what is FAQ and where can I get a copy.

2.  Cindy's fur is very long and I realize that it is probably too late
now to start training her, but when she uses the litter box she does not
quit finish her job and she is gone leaving her mess hanging in fur.
She never covers her mess when she does stay in the litter box.  Does
anyone else have this problem?

3.  Cindy is our only baby.  My husband and I are planning to start a 
family in the new year.  But I am afraid that Cindy will not take to kindly
to a baby.  She hisses at children anytime they come near her and to my 
knowledge the children have never done anything to harm her.  I will 
certainly never get rid of Cindy because of a baby, but you hear so many
horror stories where "cat has smothered baby in crib"....etc..


Any comments?

*L*
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From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Subject: Re: Do your cats know their names?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 09:17:03 GMT

jkl@fsl.noaa.gov (Jennifer Longstaff) writes:
> My cats have certainly had the chance to 
> learn their names, because I say one cat's name repeatedly, specifically to 
> her when no other cats are around.  

How do you manage that?  My pair always follow each other around, it's
almost impossible to get one alone in a room.  I just hope that, since
Murphy already knows his name, he'll ignore me when I repeat Vincent's.
-- 
Eric Williams     wd6cmu@netcom.com  |  Never attribute to malice that which
WD6CMU@WD6CMU.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA       |  is adequately explained by stupidity.
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From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Cleaning stained fur: how?
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 11:44:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.212033.20191@netcom.com>, linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley) writes:
> I have a white cat whose fur has become discolored (brownish) on its legs. I
> think the stains are from the food he eats. He eats the food, then licks his
> paws. Bathing (with regular soap/dawn) does not seem to remove these stains.
> The faq does not seem to cover this problem. Any help on how to remove these
> stains is appreciated. Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Bruce James Robert Linley | "Well, I tried shoving a weiner in the warp drive,
> Comp Sci & Engr, UCLA     |  but it didn't do a bit o' good."
> <linley@netcom.com>       | - Star Dreck, c/o Dr. Demento
> <linley@seas.ucla.edu>    |

I was just wondering...

If the food is doing that to the outside of the cat, what is it doing to the
inside?
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: My favorite type of cat
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:46:58 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.


   
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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: socks
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:25:46 GMT

>In article <609.235.uupcb@ggcs.org> dave.yuhas@ggcs.org (Dave Yuhas)  writes:
>MP>>Try putting a sock over your cat's head for a couple of minutes.  It
>MP>>doesn't know where the hell it's at, and it just sits there.

>MP>What happenend when you took it off?  Did it attack you?
>MP>She was pissed and so was I.
>
><FLAME ON>The person who suggested this is a sadist.<FLAME OFF>

Personally, I think the definition is that if it doesn't hurt or scare the
cat, it's a game.

Both our cats have, at various times, got their heads stuck in an empty
Kleenex box. Sort of like "Mr Canoe-head" :-). They didn't seem to like it
much, but it didn't stop them from doing it again all by themselves.

Abby likes to hang onto a dishtowel and be "whipped" around the kitchen
linoleum floor. 

We have done the big brown paper bag trick (where you hold the bag open about 
three feet off the ground, wiggle and scratch your finger at the end of it, 
and when the cat jumps in, drop the bag) with both of them. They come back 
for more. 

We've done something like STella's "bumper cars" trick, too, and Abby *didn't 
want* to come out from underneath. She was having a great time patting around 
with her paw outside the box where she couldn't see what was poking it (us).
We'll have to try "wokking the cat" :-).

My husband loves to play "do your ears hang low" with Boots - though I gather 
she doesn't play it the way Buttons, the cat he grew up with, did: when it's 
all over, the cat is supposed to shake its head furiously. While she doesn't 
come back for more :-), she does sit still for it uncomplainingly.

And I sure laughed the time Boots ran up the front path and bonked headfirst 
into the the glass door. She looked dazed, but she wasn't hurt.

None of this means we're sadists. We love our kitties dearly, and it's quite
clear to us that cats have a sense of fun. It would be more cruel not to have 
fun with them.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: exucsge@exu.ericsson.se (Cathy Gearhart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Do You Have Three Cats?
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:19:59 GMT
Reply-To: exucsge@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

>] On 12-05-92, Lenore Levine wrote to All:
>] 
>] >------------------------------------
>] Do you have three cats (or any other combination of three household
>] pets)? How do they get along? Are they all friends? All enemies? 
>] Are there two friends who gang up on the third? Or are two rivals
>] for the attentions of a third?
>] 
>] >------------------------------------
>

I have had three cats and a dog for several years now.  My oldest cat is a 
spayed female tortise-shell who is going on 12 (amazing how time flys).
The "girls" are a pair of grey cats, sisters from the same litter, who are now
3 years old.  The dog is also female, now 5-1/2 yrs old.  

Aside from the usual joys of lots of free ankle-washes, sleeping with purring
furballs, etc., it has been a continuous sideshow to watch the four animals
interact with each other.  Kimi, my oldest cat, was very standoff-ish from the
girls (Smokey and Skitter) for the first year or so I had them.  The girls would
play together as kittens do, racing each other around the house, while Kimi 
looked on with what seemed to be an attitude of 'grown-up tolerance for the
youth of today'.   But for about the past year, things have changed slightly.
Kimi will now play chase-around-the-house with Skitter, but she mostly 
ignores Smokey.   Smokey and Skitter now seem to spend as much time in 
spats as they do in playing. 

When the dog was introduced, Kimi and her son Winnie (since succumbed to
Feline "Aids"  :-(   )  were agast  and spent most of their time trying to stay
out of the way of the hyperactive (terrier mix) puppy-dog-from-hell  (the
cat's opinion)  who thought it would be great fun to play with the cats.
Kimi has gradually accepted the dog, but still does not allow her to become
too familiar and on more than one occasion has enforced her personal space
with claws to the nose, fortunately with no serious injuries.   

When Smokey and Skitter arrived shortly after Winnie's death, Gypsy the dog
'adopted' them and has mothered them ever since.  She (the dog) still gets very
upset and comes to get us if she sees that it is raining or she hears a catfight 
outside and she can't find  'her'  girls.    The girls, in response, still sleep with 
her and come running to her if something frightens them or if she barks in
a certain way.    Sometimes when I wake up in the mornings I find my bed 
bulging with humans, cats, and a dog.  It gets a little crowded, but it sure is 
warm.

/Cathy
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From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: Cat/Mouse software for Window 3.1
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:21 EST  

In article <1992Dec21.022635.24322@nuscc.nus.sg>, isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE) writes...
> 
>Hi
> 
>I notice all the softwares are for UNIX ...
> 
>what about for DOS Window 3.x  ?
> 
>anybody got it ?
> 
> 
>george
> 

I have Winneko somewhere ... I'll see if i can uuencode it and post it to 
the group.


-- Stephen

	My .sig generator is shooting blanks these days.
From: nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com (Nancy Pilsch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: A moral dilemma
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:22:57 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc

There is a very friendly stray running around my apt. complex that I feed
on occaision, as do others.  I have thought about bringing him to a
shelter.  All of the no-kill shelters in my area are chock full.  That
leaves bringing him to a pound, or humane society which do euthanize
animals after a certain amount of time.  He would probably get adopted (he
is extremely friendly and affectionate), but there is always the chance
that he wouldn't.  Wouldn't I be putting him in danger of being killed by
bringing him to a shelter?  Its obvious that he is not lacking in food, and
he must have a nest or something to keep warm in.  Isn't running around
free better than being killed?  I really don't know what to do.  This is
something that is really starting to bother me. I didn't think of this
until the declawing vs euthanasia discussions started.  Any thoughts on
this out there?

Nancy
Owned by Calvin and Hobbes
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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: What does DSH stand for??
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:12:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.151859.3532@sequent.com> cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland) writes:
>I saw the 2 cutest kittens for sale at a pet store this weekend and
>the sign said DSH Kittens.  So I was wondering what is DSH??  Cause
>they wanted $50 bucks each for them.  I'm still thinking of rescuing
>them and bringing them home to play with my 2 feline housemates.

DSH = Domestic Short Hair.

It's the "breed" designation that means "short haired cat of unknown or mixed
breed".

DLH, of course, is Domestic Long Hair.

$50 apiece sounds awfully expensive for a DSH cat, when you can get one from
a shelter that is just as likely to be healthy (I am making the assumption
here, of course, that any store that would sell a DSH for $50 is probably
not very scrupulous) and will cost much less.

Unless, of course, the $50 includes shots (and possibly neutering when they
become old enough).

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Reporter (to Mahatma Gandhi): Mr Gandhi, what do you think of
	Western Civilization?
Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea.
From: dave.yuhas@ggcs.org (Dave Yuhas) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: New cat owner says Hi
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Golden Gate Computer Society BBS - Marin, CA - 415-927-1216
Reply-To: dave.yuhas@ggcs.org (Dave Yuhas) 

JD>So far the cats haven't gotten along with each other.  Stripe has
JD>approached Lapoe, but she will have nothing to do with Stripe.  Lots
JD>of hissing and arched backs.  We will just let them work it out
JD>according to their own schedule.

Hate to tell you this, but they may never "work it out."  I have two
cats, females, who have lived together for five years.  They hate each
other's guts.  They've divided the house between them, and only see
other at meal times (I refuse to carry their bowls to them).

Dave Yuhas
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From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: Meaning of tabby cats
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 23 Dec 1992 15:03 EST  

In article <1992Dec22.231607.22629@tellab5.tellabs.com>, rmd@tellabs.com (Bob Dyas) writes...
>jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins) writes:
>>
>>   What are the characteristic, defining markings of what are
>>   called tabby cats?
>>
>>   Also, can anyone comment on coloration and markings of "tortise-shell 
>>   tabbies" and "mackerel tabbies"?
>>
> 
>I've read/heard that many/most/all tabbies have what appears to be a
>capital letter M on their forehead.  My cat does.  Is this true for all
>the tabbies out there?

One of mine *must* have "666" tatooed on him somewhere, but I haven't been 
able to find it yet. :-)

My yellow tabby doesn't seem to have the letter you speak of. 

-- Stephen

	My .sig generator is shooting blanks these days.
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From: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu
Subject: Re: Traveling with cats?  A good idea?
Reply-To: jonesk@ur.msstate.edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:54:49 GMT

I have left my two "children" while on vacation for up to a week
several times. I leave them at home because I learned after a
few times at the vet's kennel. It really freaked them and it
took them a while to get back to normal. When I leave them at
home they do just fine. I leave them lots of food and water and
have a neighbor/friend come by and check on them periodically.
They have a kitty door so they go in and out when they want.
They are always fine when we (my husband and myself) get back.
Happy to see us for about five minutes and then back to normal!
However, if where you're going has no pets and you're going by
car (mine are HORRID car travelers), why not take them? You
make the call. :)

Kay Jones




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From: islandia@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (alan.b.karpe)
Subject: snowshoe cats
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:21:18 GMT
Keywords: snowshow cats breed

Does anyone have information on a breed of cat called a snowshoe.
What I know is that they are similar to siamese, have white paws and
a small meow.


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From: lm00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louise B. McFeaters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Kitty Sitting
Date: 3 Jan 93 06:19:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IfFl8AC00Uh_81R3Z_
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I will be going away for a week, and a girlfriend of mine with 3 old
cats of her own has offered to kitty sit for me. Do you think that old
cats will shread my little kitten? She is 4 months old. Thanks for
responding.

Louise
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From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: socks
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 28 Dec 1992 15:48 EST  

In article <1992Dec28.172546.15132@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes...
> 
>Personally, I think the definition is that if it doesn't hurt or scare the
>cat, 

Or doesn't violate any of the cats' civil rights.... :-)

>it's a game.
> 

OK, I'll admit to playing `Incredible Flying Cat' by carefully tossing the 
cat across the room onto a water bed (4 inches of padding over the matress 
at *least*... no *unintentional* wet dreams for me, thanks. :-)) Most of 
them would come back for another toss as soon as they figured out that they 
didn't get hurt. The one's that don't come back don't get to play. :-)

The other thing I've done (oh, horror of horrors !) is to pick them up and 
hold them when they're not in the mood for being held. Nothing shatters a 
cat's dignity quite like enduring the torture of being stroked when they're 
not looking for it. Still, they need to be shown who's boss once in a while.

(actually, *I* need to assure myself of who is running the show !) :-)

It was this trick that led to the infamous `Cat Rap' sessions at my house. 
I don't know if you realize it or not, but cats *can't* growl if their 
noses are plugged. Since most of my cats would growl to beat the band if 
subjected to unwanted love (never a claw or tooth... just loud bitching), I 
found that I could do Rap beats by intermittently blocking their nostrils 
momentarily with the tips of my fingers. Vanilla Ice has got nuthin' on
`Fuzzy Slush' (Brinn's Rap nickname) :-)

Is this *torture* ?!?! Maybe, but they keep coming back for attention and 
cats have a *lot* more free will re: loving their owners than dogs seem to. 

> 
>None of this means we're sadists. We love our kitties dearly, and it's quite
>clear to us that cats have a sense of fun. 

That's why they will often `tease' you by coming up as if to get petted, 
and then avoid your hand like the plague and run when you try to pick them 
up. Noah did this all the time and often I chased and cornered him when he 
did it. When I finally did catch him and pick him up, the game was over, *I*
had won (from *his* perspective ... I was usually close to heart-attack 
exhaustion by the time I out-smarted him), and when released (purring madly), 
he almost always rubbed on me and begged for attention from which he *didn't* 
shy away. 

If *that* ain't jerkin' your chain, I don't know what is !

A belated Merry X-Mas to all my pals here on r.p.c, by the way. I would 
have sent it sooner, but for some reason it was hard to get into the 
Christmas spirit this year. 

Oh, and happy New Year before I blow that one as well. :-)

-- Stephen

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