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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases,rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: ***** THX Star Wars/Abyss LASER DISCS COMING!!! *****
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:56:57 GMT
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paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil) writes:

>> So if you have a Home THX system, you hear EXACTLY what the sound
>> engineers heard in the studio.
>
> The point still is this.  If you walked into a room with one of these
> fancy setups, could *you* tell which setup it was after watching the
> movie?  I doubt it because the difference between the two is so small.

The difference between what "two"?  Again: THX (home or theatre) is not an
encoding system, it is a *quality standard*.  A THX label on a home
video release would be a guarantee of a high-quality audio and video
transfer.  Quality differences between transfers are certainly noticable;
we discuss them here all the time.

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From: coop2d11@bnr.ca (Ken Goldenberg)
Subject: Re: ***** THX Star Wars/Abyss LASER DISCS COMING!!! *****
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:18:32 GMT
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Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.

fag2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Farul A Ghazali) writes:
>
>I suppose Fox will be charging $60-70 per title when they do come out.

Hmm, I payed $70 each for the widescreen versions, so I'd guess the list
price would be higher than that.  Esp. if they're CAV, and have some
collector's stuff as an insert.

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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: DISCOVISION was Re: Jaws/Blues Brothers CAV
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:18:14 GMT


>>A local store which specialises in rare records and CDs recently started
>>selling laserdiscs. They've not only been getting new releases, but also some
>>older titles and second-hand discs. So, what can anyone tell me about 3-disc
>>boxed CAV sets of Jaws and The Blues Brothers (NTSC)?
>>... and if so are they collectible and/or is anyone interested in them?
>
>Both of these are early discovision releases.  I have a fair number of
>these from the early days. You will generally find a so-so transfer at
>best, and a good chance of laser rot.  About 1/3 of my discovision stuff
>now shows signs of rot.  About the transfer, you need to realize that
>this was the early days of video.  They would generally take whatever
>release print they had laying around and transfer that. 

There are people who collect Discovision titles because they are rare
(especially rare if they are not rotted).  It often takes several sets
to get one set of good discs, so they engage in trading with other
collectors.  Good sets of some titles have been known to sell for
$1000-$1500.  That's right!

Before you rush out and buy any, though, you should read the article
COLLECTING DISCOVISION by David Cellitti in THE PERFECT VISION vol.3,
issue 11 (order back issues by phoning 1-800-825-0061).  He has do's
don'ts and a complete discography.


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From: schumach@stortek.com (Kurt Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Question about I, Claudius
Reply-To: schumach@stortek.com
Organization: Storage Technology Corp
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:52:11 GMT

In article 2b5af836@atlas.nafb.trw.com, molmos@atlas.nafb.trw.com () writes:
>
> Can anyone tell me whether or not the episodes from I, Claudius available
> on laser disk are the "edited" episodes? The last re-broadcast on PBS
> had several scenes cut out, and I would not want to pay $200 for the set
> only to find that these scenes were missing.
>
> Mark O.


Mark,

I read in a couple of places that the both the disk and tape versions of
I, Claudius are unedited, and contain a number of scenes that were cut from
both the original and the more recent PBS broadcasts.  I haven't seen them
myself, so I can't verify this.

	Kurt
From: bengt@fires1.uucp (Bengt A. Palsson)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Why is "Tron" so hard to find?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 16:51:45 GMT
Organization: Svenska Popfabriken AB, USA div.
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In article <C1FF1z.45n@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> u0f98@keele.ac.uk (DJ Robinson) writes:
>It's only available in the UK on video as a crappy P&S tape because they
>are all so old. If only someone could issue a cleaned-up WS version on
>video I'd be first in the queue!
>	Dominator

Tron has been fed via satellite a number of times in the past weeks. I don't
know who feeds it (Disney ?) and for whom the feed is intended. I have never
caught the beginning of the movie to find out more details. Seems like
someone is trying to generate renewed interest in it before (if) it is 
re-released on video. The feed is a "full black" version (i.e. black screens
where the local affiliate inserts their commercials).

Since satellite feeds like this are generally equal to or better than what
you'd see on a laserdisc, it wouldn't be hard to make a pristine copy using
an S-VHS or Hi-8 VCR, and then simply editing out the commercial "black"
screens for a fine copy of the movie (for personal use only of course !!).

BTW the version fed over satellite was not letterboxed, also I couldn't tell
if there was any extra footage not in the original release. The image quality
will depend on your receiving equipment, but on my end it was perfect as was
the sound.

Those of you with a dish, scan the satellite T301, usually on weekend 
afternoons and you may find it again.
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From: bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Rocky Horror LD: Poor audio
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:50:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.Jan.25.16.50.28.1993.9233
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

evan@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Evan Whitney) writes:

>I just got _The Rocky Horror Picture Show_ on laser disc and it
>sure sounds like there is no audio information below 1 kHz, i.e.,
>no bass. Is this normal for this movie?

What does it LOOK like.  I bought my copy right before Christmas.  The video
source had the same black diagonal interference pattern as the original release
video tape.  I promptly returned it, complaining to the manager who put it
in a player, saw immediately what I was talking about, and pulled all of the
copies off of the sales floor.  I thought the sound sucked also.  I once heard
that RHPS was the first movie recorded with the Dolby System.  Does anyone
else know anything about this?

BTW - is there more than one version available (domestically)?  I heard
originally that this was supposed to be a restored print with the deleted
"Superhero" sequence, as well as being digitally remastered both audio
and video.  This print was the same chopped version as the tape.  It is not the
theatrical release which had a much smoother transition when the castle
takes off, and had the Time Warp reprise and not Science Fiction...Reprise.
I have a terrible multi-generation copy of the theatrical release on tape
that was recorded many years ago from either a cable or Satellite broadcast
of the movie.  It is so bad, that the colors distort to a rainbow affect.
Anyway, the point is, why don't they do it right and release a decent
laser version of this movie, letterboxed would be nice.

BG 
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From: dgoldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Robert Goldman)
Subject: Re: ***** THX Star Wars/Abyss LASER DISCS COMING!!! *****
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:38:44 GMT

good@pixar.com (There is no truth to the rumour about me and Iman.) writes:
>acoustic stuff for the room. (The name "THX" stands for Tom Holman X-over,
>since Tom designed it.) Home THX is just a home version of all that.

I was told it was "Tom Holman eXperiment".  It's also, of course, part of
the name of George Lucas' first film, THX-1138, but everybody here already
knows that ;-)  By the way, if you get a chance to check out a Home THX system,
it's an absolute must.  They do things *right*.

>So it makes only limited sense that a disc could be "in" THX. What may have
>happened is that the films were re-mixed for home theatre (ie: laserdisc)
>much as was "Apocalypse Now". *That* would be a cool thing. I'll try to
>check on it.

I believe that's the concept behind the THX labelling.  They're laserdisc
pressings which conform to THX standards, and have been remixed in a Home THX
studio system.  So if you have a Home THX system, you hear EXACTLY what the
sound engineers heard in the studio.
From: acw@goofy.apple.COM (Art Willis)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: compleat tex avery #1
Summary: It costs $100
Keywords: Cartoons, Laserdisc, Tex Avery
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:55:59 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <1993Jan19.093653.3822@lth.se> dat91oto@ludat.lth.se (Ola Torstensson) writes:
>eric.walker@channel1.com writes that the Compleat Tex Avery set is
>expensive.  I'm sure it's been mentioned here before, but I couldn't
>find it, so I'll ask: how expensive, exactly?
>
>Thanks for the articles, Eric!
>Ola
>

As the summary line says, the suggested list price of "The 
Complete Tex Avery" is $100 in the US, actual street prices,
like your mileage, may vary.  Although $100 is a big chunk of
dough, it is a reasonable price for the 5 (or 4.5, actually)
disks you get in the set.

--

Regards,

Art Willis
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From: fineberg@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: ***** THX Star Wars/Abyss LASER DISCS COMING!!! *****
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: usa

In article <HAGERMAN.93Jan22113422@rx7.ece.cmu.edu>, hagerman@ece.cmu.edu (John Hagerman) writes:
|> I'm curious why this is so exciting.  Current laser disks still hold
|> 525 line images, right?  And letterboxing reduces the resolution.  I
|> believe the quality is better than tape, but still: it seems like it
|> would be better to just wait a couple of years for HDTV.  That image
|> will blow away anything you can buy available today.
|> 
|> - John
|> --
|> hagerman@ece.cmu.edu
More like, wait a couple of years for an HDTV standard, then another 1-2 yrs
for HDTV components, then another 2-3 yrs for HDTV to be reasonable to buy
(i.e., <2x standard components), then another 2-3 yrs for software to become
readily available, etc......

Sam
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From: kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle)
Subject: Re: Image slashes discounts on Criterion discs
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:10:55 GMT

From article <1993Jan27.023111.2723@tc.fluke.COM>, by moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer):
> In <1993Jan20.183503.7604@bmerh85.bnr.ca> gihan@bmerh886.BNR.CA (Gihan Karunaratne) writes:
> 
> 
>>Last question - where can I get Criterions "cheap"?
> 
> With Tewksbury's 20% discount gone, they're in the same ball park with the
> rest; however, I've seen Sight and Sound discount Criterion discs to 20% off
> pre-orders at times.  I assume they do this the same way they do other 20%
> off prices on various titles: volume.
> 
Try J & R Frogg. They had 25% discounts until last year when the dropped 
them to 20% due to price restructuring due to Voyager. I don't know
if this is the same pricing used now with the switch in distribution to
Image.

John Kettyle, Jr.
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From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: Has the The Prisoner ever been released on LD ?
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:30:50 GMT

>>In article <1993Jan19.032631.11471@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu> peterli@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Peter Li) writes:
>>>I am curious to know if the cult favorite The Prisoner
>>>by Patrick McGoohan ever been released ?

It is available here in Japan in bilingual English/Japanese format.
It comes in  a series of 3-disc box-sets, 2 episodes per disc.
Very nicely done liner notes (if you read Japanese, that is...)
I forget the price, sorry.

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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Why is "Tron" so hard to find?
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:54:36 GMT

In article <indiv35.727915094@std> indiv35@imsor.dth.dk (Henrik Sahlholt (bfn - 2/93)) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>A friend of mine is looking for a VHS (PAL) cassette of "Tron", the 1982
>sci-fi flick. We rented this a couple of years ago so its definetely available
>on video, but when my friend went to the video-store the other day, they said
>that this movie could not be ordered anymore. Several other stores said the
>same thing. I noticed that it isnt on the LBX list of PAL-VHS cassettes posted
>a couple of weeks ago.
>
>So what's the story: Is this movie currently on general release or what?

It's been out of print for years, but was re-issued this fall.

Keep trying; sooner or later your dealer/distributor will get a current list.

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From: asberry@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kevin Asberry)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:06:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Video Quality of The Last Boyscout, Patton (LD)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases

>My The Last Boyscout has terrible video quality, as bad as
>VHS!  Though I was able to coerce the LD player into cleaning
>it up a bit, it is still not satisfactory.  Is it a bad transfer,
>or do I have a defective disc?
>
>Mike
>-- 
>mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
>----------

  I have had this disc on order since just after it was released, but it is
still on backorder.  I wonder if it is being re-mastered to remedy the 
problem you spoke of.

Kevin Asberry

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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Subject: Re: ***** THX Star Wars/Abyss LASER DISCS COMING!!! *****
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:05:04 GMT

Daniel Robert Goldman writes:
>good@pixar.com  writes:
>>acoustic stuff for the room. (The name "THX" stands for Tom Holman X-over,
>>since Tom designed it.) Home THX is just a home version of all that.
>
>I was told it was "Tom Holman eXperiment".  It's also, of course, part of
>the name of George Lucas' first film, THX-1138, but everybody here already
>knows that ;-)  By the way, if you get a chance to check out a Home THX system,
>it's an absolute must.  They do things *right*.
>
>>So it makes only limited sense that a disc could be "in" THX. What may have
>>happened is that the films were re-mixed for home theatre (ie: laserdisc)
>>much as was "Apocalypse Now". *That* would be a cool thing. I'll try to
>>check on it.
>
>I believe that's the concept behind the THX labelling.  They're laserdisc
>pressings which conform to THX standards, and have been remixed in a Home THX
>studio system.  So if you have a Home THX system, you hear EXACTLY what the
>sound engineers heard in the studio.

The point still is this.  If you walked into a room with one of these
fancy setups, could *you* tell which setup it was after watching the
movie?  I doubt it because the difference between the two is so small.

The really important part is are they remastering it as they did the
Letterbox VHS set ( they probably are since it wouldn't make sense to
not do it ) and will it be in CAV.  Does anyone know for certain the
answer to this last question?

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From: wyman@rtsg.mot.com (Mark S. Wyman)
Subject: Re: ***** THX Star Wars/Abyss LASER DISCS COMING!!! *****
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:09:30 GMT

paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil) writes:

>>I believe that's the concept behind the THX labelling.  They're laserdisc
>>pressings which conform to THX standards, and have been remixed in a Home THX
>>studio system.  So if you have a Home THX system, you hear EXACTLY what the
>>sound engineers heard in the studio.

>The point still is this.  If you walked into a room with one of these
>fancy setups, could *you* tell which setup it was after watching the
>movie?  I doubt it because the difference between the two is so small.

>The really important part is are they remastering it as they did the
>Letterbox VHS set ( they probably are since it wouldn't make sense to
>not do it ) and will it be in CAV.  Does anyone know for certain the
>answer to this last question?

I watched Star Wars in a downtown Chicago theater that had a THX
certified sound system during that promo for the Nintendo game.
I must say that it had terrific sound quality.  Whether this had
to do with the THX certification or the fact that other theatres
usually have shitty sound systems is questionable.

I sure hope they remaster with CAV format.  The current laserdiscs
are of pretty poor quality.  It would be great if they looked like
Apocolypse Now.

Mark
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From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: THX Sound (was Re: THX Star Wars/Abyss...)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:05:53 GMT

My uncle recently installed THX-sound system.  It costed him about 
$20,000, including installation.  I don't remember the brand and the 
model name of each components but it consisted of the following:
- THX-certified three speakers (for center, left, and right channel)
- THX-certified two dipolar speakers (for rear channel)
- THX-certified two subwoofers
- THX-certified processor
- THX-certified 7 amplifiers (for each speakers)

It sounded great.  I tried several great surround laserdiscs, 
including Apocalypse Now, Star Wars, Indiana Jones and the Temple of 
Doom, and The Hunt for Red October.

I compared it with my father's Dolby Surround Pro-Logic setup, which 
consists of the following:
- Sony TAE-1000 (?) preamp
- 3 Adcom mono poweramp
- 1 Adcom stereo poweramp
- 2 left, right speakers, 1 center speaker, 2 rear speakers
- 1 self-powered subwoofer
In comparison, THX sounded superior.  THX-sound moved from each 
speakers far more smoothly (Apocalypse Now's tiger chase scene is 
incredible!) than Dolby.  I jumped several times when auditioning 
THX-sound.
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From: kazel@uiuc.edu (Mitch Kazel)
Subject: Re: The Last Starfighter on LD
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:38:28 GMT

In article <1jpsflINNkcm@hp-col.col.hp.com> dons@col.hp.com (Don Schott) writes:
>	I want to buy an LD copy of "The Last Starfighter", but
>I want to get the best available version.  The version that I
>have found is not in a wide screen or letterbox format.  Does
>anyone know if there are multiple versions of this on LD?  If
>so, where can I get them?  

As far as I know . . . that's the only version available.
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From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Highlander 3hr cut?
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 17:00:07 GMT

>Incidentally, latest in the "Highlander III" saga is that there is a script
>being drafted which apparently follows directly on from the first film,
>pretending that the second film didn't exist.

Kinda like the TV series, eh? 8^)
-- 

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From: ECZ5ACK@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Andy Kohler)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Art of Tom & Jerry on Laserdisc?
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:29:10 GMT
Reply-To: ecz5ack@mvs.oac.ucla.edu

Does anyone know when the Art of Tom & Jerry, a box set of
Tom & Jerry cartoons on laserdisc, will be released?  It was
originally due in December 1992; has a new date been announced?

Thanks.
Andy Kohler
ecz5ack@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: A "technical" question
Date: 24 Jan 93 06:02:34 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1jn0gsINN9va@umbc4.umbc.edu> klr@umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler) writes:
<
<Out of curiosity, in a CLV format laser disk, does the laser track from
<the inside out, or from the outside in?

To date, all formats of laserdiscs are inside out.
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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: ***** THX Star Wars/Abyss LASER DISCS COMING!!! *****
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:23:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.183013.5214@bmerh85.bnr.ca> gihan@bnr.ca writes:
>|>                        THE ABYSS/FILM: 2 DISCS/4SIDES/CLV
>|>                  THE ABYSS/SUPPLEMENT: 1 DISCS/2 SIDES/CAV & CLV
>|>              1561-84 $99.99 C/S/D/cx 178 min. UPC8616-29114-6 NR 1989 cc
>I was expecting the movie to be in CAV like ALIEN and ALIENS. Isn't there
>a LBX ABYSS in CLV (granted it does not have the THX logo!) for $50.00 already?

Yes.  On the other hand, the current disk doesn't include the extra 40
minutes worth of footage nor the supplement disk (although it does
have a cheesy "Making of" feature), which IMHO is worth the extra
expense.

And anyways, at 3 hours, that's at least six disk sides - more if they
do the side breaks intelligently, rather than just every half-hour.  I
don't know about others, but I'm too lazy to want to change disk sides
that many times...  Besides, more disks means it would be even more
expensive.
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