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From: LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Karen Kay)
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Subject: Human Communications Research
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:32:34 GMT
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A friend of mine in Communications here lent me an article called
"Relational Communication in Computer-Mediated Interaction" by Joseph
Walther and Judee Burgoon, p.50-88 of Human Communication Research,
Sept., 1992.

That's the citation.  The study doesn't use pre-existing lists, but
used groups of subjects who were assigned to accomplish certain goals
w/in a specified length of time.  (The control group was FTF.)  My
summary of the findings is expressed in one sentence found on p. 76:
"It was found that CMC groups do develop and evolve in relationally
positive directions."  No duh!!!  It turns out that current thinking
(according to these guys) is that CMC is a 'relationally static medium'.
Ha!!!  Whoever believes this is not involved in the medium.  At least
this research disproves the 'current thinking'.

Karen
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From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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Dumb question alert!

What are "relationally positive directions"?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: Clinton's letter and stuff

> 2.  He said he was going to give me a discount, and
> 3.  "   "   "   "   "    "   "   " 2 free hours as a quid pro quo for
> something I did for his second ex-wife.  Sigh.  When WILL I ever learn?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> John "Your honor, I ask you...are THESE the legs of a murderess?" W.
>
The mind <reels> at what this might have been.  Details, please.
--ggs (always wanting the *complete* story, not just the fraggets...)
====================
Well, Unka Giggles, the *complete* story, ripped from the blazing pages of
Real Life, is appropriately boring...  (G, ts, and anyone else who wishes
to step out in the hall while I indulge Uncle Gigi's purient interests may
do so now.)
Shyster J. Flywheel's spoiled daughter from his second marriage was "thinking
about" going to college.  He, who is doing the divorce of my buddy's #2
daughter - for which I'm paying - , thinks a typewriter might be an effective
push in the <right> direction.  Ex-wife #1, with whom I've remained friends,
relays the message that he'll give me a free hour if I go get a used machine
for her.  I demur.  (The man's a GREAT lawyer, but as a human being he ranks
between pond scum and lichens.  Heck of a nice guy, hail-fellow-well-met, but
a real a**hole, know what I mean?  A brass-plated buttplug of the first water.)
The NEXT night, again on the phone w/ ew#1, he asks her to ask me again,
upping the ante to two hours.  Hey, thinks I, o-kay.  I hie myself down to
Mesa's rapidly-decaying downtown and get a _nice_ used IBM Selectric for $130.
(Yea, I took it in the shorts, but *I* have *MY* integrity, and, it would
have been worth it...)  Night #3 I report to e-w#1 of my success and tell her
to relay the good news.  She does so (Hey *IO* ain't gonna call him!  Never
did care for him, and he'd probably CHARGE me for it to boot!), whereupon
(and whereas) HE tells HER to tell ME that he went to Bizmart and bought the
kid a new one!  E-w#1, feeling badly for me, offers to pay me for it. I, again
with all this antiquated <sense of ethics>, refuse to let her get him off the
hook.  Anyway, as I got the machine on Friday I rushed back to the store, got
the "nice man" to rip up my Amex slip, in return for which I got to pay THREE
DAYS RENT on the damn thing = $30.  So much for intregrity.  Oh, well.  The
guy DID keep me from going to jail for Livestock At Large.  No, Gilbert, I
will *NOT* tell you another story!  Go to sleep this instant!
(Now, aren't you sorry you asked?  I'm gonna have to start making stuff up...)

JMW
                Picard for President - "Make it so!"
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On Sat, 10 Oct 1992, Stuck in the Wasteland wrote:

> 	Just thought I'd relate to you all that I finally found a
> *real* job.  It's at a place called Laserpoint Software Systems in

yeaaaa! the return of ListHoney!

-abh
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
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> >The provision of health insurance by employers presents many problems.
> >One of the greatest is that of denying coverage for pre-existant
> >conditions when one changes jobs (and therefore changes insurance).
>
> Yes, this is all true.  But the cases mentioned last night were an
> administrator fired for hiring a woman w/ a child with--something.
> Down's syndrome?  Clearly not a normal child.  And I think another
> guy discovered he had AIDS, and was fired at that point, because
> it would cost the company too much to take care of him.
> Karen

As the mother of a Down's syndrome daughter, I am sick to death of the
discriminatory attitude of insurance companies to people with Down's.
Admittedly, this is a condition which *can* affect the individual
physically...but it doesn't always.  My daughter is the healthiest member
of our family...no heart complications, NONE of the health problems
associated with Down's...she hasn't even met her deductible but twice in
the last 14 years, and then only by a few dollars.  But I know with
absolute certainty that, healthy as she is, if I left my current job,
where she *is* covered, we would have the very devil of a time finding an
insurance company that would touch her.
ndh (who has an extremely low opinion of insurance companies)
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject: Re: Explosion & game question
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On Sat, 10 Oct 1992, Emily Horning wrote:

> PS - Are you still planning a trip to Vegas?

Naw, it was only DEC equipment, and it looks like I'll be <elsewhere>
during that time, like Atlanta for example ;-(

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:49:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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:> Count among the "apochrypha" pages 236-37 of Dunham, _Journey Through
:> Genius_.  Gauss supposedly paired up numbers summing to 100 and had
:> 50 left over.

: How can anyone pair up a hundred numbers and have anything left over?

Too quick on the draw this morning, tushar!  Pairing up a hundred numbers is
not the same thing as pairing up numbers summing to 100, e.g. 100 = 0 + 100 =
1 + 99 = ... = 49 + 51. There are 50 such pairs and 50 stands alone.  So the
sum is 5050.

Steve Karlson

The cheesehead stands alone
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 9 Oct 92 03:13:41 GMT
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In a previous article, bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer) says:

>Karen:
>>Why is it a bad idea to hang up?
>
>Me: -- I keep thinking I've left my account open.  I suspect, but do not 
>know, that there are gremlins that go around closing doors, and that makes
>me nervous. --bayla
>
It's also considered rude.  Some local bulletin boards will lock out a user
who drops carrier too often.  There are times when it's the only way to 
stop a session - sometimes a stray command will jam something on this end,
and only a reboot unjams it.  Sometimes on a telnet connection, even the
telnet interrupts and ^Y don't do a darned thing, and it's a choice of letting
the <@(!*##@%&*(!)> thing time out [after who knows how long] and hanging up.

Ruth, of the strange machine
ps - is it me, or is it awfully quiet in here?
Maybe our brains have timed out?
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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> I always wondered about the bold zeugma in "plants and equipment."

What bold zeugma?  There's a typo, perhaps.  In the national income
accounts, the entry is "Plant and equipment."  Plant refers to
buildings, parking lots, railroad tracks, and other things not
easily moved, hence "planted."  Equipment refers to machinery,
light fixtures, tools, rolling stock, and other things more easily
moved, with which you "equip" the plant.

Steve Karlson

Is a horse capital or labor?
From: N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (gilbertsmith)
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> On the news tonight I heard that the US is supposed to be switching over
> to metric by 1996!  Congress evidently passed legislation to this effect
> sometime in the 1980's.  Does this sound remotely like anything anyone
> else has heard?  This was something about Iowa getting a grant to redo
> highway signs.  It's not clear to me whether this metric conver-sion is
> only for distances or whether it is supposed to apply to every- thing.
>
> Karen
> who should probably stop listening to the news...

For many years the highway signs around Raleigh have shown
kilometers and miles, but now I think they are replacing them
with miles only.  Last week my son the archeologist and I
went out to Eastern North Carolina to survey an abandoned
family cemetery about two miles from a tiny town named
*Republican*, NC (really, this is true) and we stopped at
seven different hardware stores looking for a metric
measuring tape.  No dice.  Everyone said: "Wale, y'all'll
never find sumthin li-uhk thayut roun' he-yer."  My tc/sw
the graphic artist reports that they are <unobtainable> in
the big city of Raleigh, also.
--ggs (remembering that the cemetery trip is worth a story,
       when he <gets well> and finishes WHTMINJ... if ever)
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Date: 7 Oct 1992 20:57:24 GMT
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In a previous article, CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Lobstrosities Unite) says:

>O-scale!  Holy cow, where do you put the stuff? You layout must be rather
>large.
>
Chris, if you think that's bad, you should see the Standard gauge stuff my
dad puts up at Christmas time.  It takes most of a fair-sized living room,
and consists of one O-gauge loop plus sidings, and one Standard-Gauge looop
with same.  It takes over a month to assemble completely, although it's not
as elaborate as what Steve's doing.  Standard engines and cars can be more than
twice the size of O stuff, especially very old Standard.  Some of the engines
 weigh more than my cats, neither of whom are under 10lbs.

Large isn't the word for it....

>
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>> I am not nearly as partisan as you think.
>> -Mka
>
>Gee, Ausbrook, you could've fooled me.  You do <indignation> very well!
>
>rashmi


Why thank you.

-K

-Mka
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>Rutgers have the OED; the websters is on moose.cs.indiana.edu

     1) G is clearly English--that odd usage of the plural with organizations;

     2) the addresss is almost certainly moose.ucs.indiana.edu
                                               ^^^
-Mka
ausbrook.ucs.indiana.edu
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> > I'm so happy you didn't already <have one>.... that would have
> > been a real bummer!  Enjoy.
>
> Is Rita's sort of like mine -- except in a few <details>?
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

They all <match>, STS, except for the <details> and the fact that
rashmi's is the *biggest*, since she came in first.  Appropriate,
no?  Too bad we couldn't have had a ceremony....  but then that
might have been too <life-threatening> for the GSH, who is *still*
probably not the favorite person of some people lurking around.
And we all know that "non-winners" can get quite nasty sometimes.
--ggs
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>No, Jim, I stand by what I said.  "Only" is a floating quantifier and I
>can put it anywhere I want in speech.

Not (I think) in the English of East Indian Christians. As a quantifier
it can only be in certain places. Offhand, I can't say how many uses it
has, but let's see.

Used as a suffix to mean "the same":
1) That only I am telling you. (I am telling you the same thing.)
2) That only. (As a confirmation, i.e. "exactly", or "what you said is
               absolutely correct.")

But intonation matters:
1a) He's not TELLING me only. (He promises to tell me, talks About it
                               etc, but doesn't Tell me.)
1b) He's not telling ME only. (I am the only person he hasn't told.
                               i.e. standard meaning.)

2a) HIS computer only. (Same as "His only computer" above.)
2b) His COMPUTER only. (The same computer that was mentioned earlier.)

3a) HIS only computer. (Belonging to the same guy that was mentioned
                        earlier.)
3b) His ONLY computer. (Standard meaning, but a lot of people don't
                        make sense of this, especially "uneducated".
                        Thus, the intonation is ungrammatical.)

Thus, meaning depends on where the stress is in the sentence.


Further,
1) Only his computer. (Standard meaning, regardless of intonation.)

2) *I* am only obeying orders. (With emphasis on "I", it's never the
   standard meaning. This sentence almost certainly means "I, the person
   we have been talking about, is obeying orders". It might also mean
   "I am the only person obeying orders", in some contexts.)


I had never thought about this (and it has surprised me quite a bit, too),
so I don't know what the rule is. But it's clear to me that there is a
Marathi influence.

tushar
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Subject:      Happy Birthday

Happy birthday, Neal.

Yeah, entropy's in the air today.

-Mka
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
George Bush had plenty of encounters with other civilizations
courtesy of Uncle Sam during the middle 1940s, didn't he?  If
memory serves, a distinguished member of another civilization
shot his plane down.
Steve Karlson
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GHWB was not trying to learn about and understand the other
civilization -- he was trying to conquer it.

JAG
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              Oct 15, 92 7:42 pm

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> > So, Rashmi, Natalie... Yours got red velvet also?
>
> Yup - Does yours have three .. you know?
>
	Yes indeed...three glittering, shimmering -.

Rita
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From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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> buying me a motorized wheelchair, they're afraid I'll terrorize the
> neighbourhood.

I used to have a Solex (a moped-type thing) that was classified by the
state vehicle office as a motorized wheelchair.  I found that interesting.
(The reason I know its classification was that the campus police asked
the state office for help when they were trying to decide whether I should
park it in a bicycle rack or in motorcycle parking area.  They finally
decided on bicycle rack.  It went 25 mph top speed -- down hill.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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(Okay, let's see how noisy THIS line is!)
-  Approximate [transcription] of an editorial cartoon by Boro,          -
   (c) 1992, The Phoenix Gazette
BBGOP = Bald, bearded guy on phone    CHJEOP = Cowboy hat & jug ears on phone

        BBGOP:  "How'd you get in the debates, Ross?"
        CHJEOP: "I've got a platform!"
        BBGOP:  "So do I!"
        CHJEOP: "I'm on the ballot in 50 states!"
        BBGOP:  "So am I!"
        CHJEOP: "I'm a billionaire!"
        BBGOP:          <silence>
        CHJEOP: "H'lo?  Mr. Marrou?  Are you there?"

Sigh.  Oh, well, there's always the unemployed Commies of the New Alliance...

JMW
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Posted on 11 Oct 1992 at 17:24:31 by The Ronin
>plan is to drive through to St. Louis on the first day so that I can
                             ^^^^^^^^^
Hey, I'm *only* 3 and 1/2 hours north!

Karen
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> >Natalie hasn't smoked in house, car, or office for the past 24 hours --
>
> Wow.  I am totally impressed.

Of course, it's taking much longer than usual to get work done because I
have to keep running outside...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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>Oh, please.  How much did you make last year???  Let's talk about what
>matters.  How big is your penis?

Yeah, and not only that, but how much money do you make?

-abh
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On Fri, 9 Oct 1992, JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS wrote:

> %SYSTEM-F-LICENSE, operation requires software license

AH-hahahahahahahahaha! John, they let the frigging license run out at your
comp center!

This has made my day.

[Note: this is how they enforce software licensing in the VMS world. You
make your software expire when the money's due, and believe me, it WILL
NOT work beyond that date without a new authcode.]

Tell those patsies to pay up soon, becuase they just disabled a whole
network!

-abh
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>                            It is strange but feels as though it
>will be a useful formulation.  In Hebrew  there is a verb ?state?
>called <heepeel>  which allows one to transform a root form into
>a <causative transitive>, that is to cause some thng to happen..

Hindi has at least two levels of indirection above the verb.
1) to write
2)"to make write" (i.e. to get something written)
3)"to make (to make write)"

Marathi has only one (at least, I can't think of more levels offhand).
1) to learn
2)"to make learn" (to teach)

It OBVIOUSLY satisfies a need felt in a rigidly hierarchical society ...

tushar
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:01:09 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>Like I said, I knew I'd regret this.:-)  Is the plug to prevent the intrusion
>of methane-like waste production byproduct upon what one might call an
><intimate moment>?

   no.
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