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From: kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: I want my dog to obey me.
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:56:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1993Jan12.175626.15742
Organization: True Love, and Home-Grown Tomatoes

In article <9301120205.AA0161o@ragtime.sf.ca.us> 
	amy@ragtime.sf.ca.us (Terry Weissman) writes:

>I have an American Eskimo dog (a small Spitz).  He will do the normal
>commands such as Sit, Stay, Come, and Stand when his choke color is on or
>when I have food in my hand.  When he is off the leash at the park he
>comes on command.  Sometimes he listens because he is happy to see me or
>thinks I have food.  However, if he manages to gets out of the yard he
>will not come when I call him and I have to chase him. Of course, this
>makes him run more and it is very scary because he could get run over. 
>HELP! what do I do?

Well, he's learned that he doesn't have to obey you when he's not on
a short lead.  And you taught him that, I'm afraid.  #1: Don't let him
out in your unfenced yard, period, unless he's on a leash. 

Work with a leash *and* a long line.  Don't ever pick up the long line,
or use it as a leash.  You can practice dropping the leash and doing
off-lead obedience when you have established good on-lead control. The
long line is for stepping on to restrain the dog.

>My friend told me to hit him with a newspaper when I finally catch him. 

Your friend is an effing idiot.

>My dog trainer told me just don't give him commands when he is off the
>choke collar.  Does that mean that I shouldn't bribe him with food when I
>want him to do the commands?

>Also, my American Eskimo dog is like hyper-city.  He doesn't stop moving
>for a second.  He is weird and sometimes scared of noises.  He's 11 months
>old (we got him when he was 4 months).  Is his behavior typical of this
>dog?

>Finally, I was thinking of trying to train him to stay off of certain
>couches, although other couches are junky enough that I don't care.  Will
>there be any problem teaching the puppy to distinguish between the
>different couches?

Like most dogs, he'll pick whatever couch he wants when you're not home :-)


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From: lois@Armstrong.EDU (Lois A. Houston)
Subject: Update on the lost puppy story
Organization: Armstrong State College, Savannah, GA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:10:16 GMT


Well, I couldn't bear the thought of that poor puppy having been taken
so far from her home to only lose a new home after one night.  I called
the animal shelters this morning to ask them to call us if anyone found
her. (Lucy as I've been calling her)  They told me about a couple who
had found a beagle puppy not far from my mother's house last night and
gave me the telephone number. I called, and sure enough it was Lucy!

I took my lunch hour to go get her and took her to my house to stay in
our (fenced) yard with my 2 dogs (lab and an OLD mutt) until mom can
get a fence put up.

So now it looks like we're a 3 dog, 2 cat family for a while.  Sure hope
my husband doesn't mind!

Lois
-- 
Spend it while you can            |
	Money is contraband       |	Lois A. Houston
You can't take it with you        |     kilowatt!laa@armstrong.edu
	when you go --            |     lois@armstrong.edu
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From: hecht@hsi.com (Alice Hecht)
Subject: How do you train a dog to "speak"?
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford, CT
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:16:41 GMT


Hello, I'm interested in training my dog "Rolf" how to say his own name.
What I'd like to do is say to him "What's your name?" and have him bark
back at me which will sound like his name, Rolf.  He's 8 months old and has
so far learned, sit, stay, down stay, come (sometimes), and gives me his
paw when I say "How do you do?".  Any ideas would be welcome.

Thanks,
Alice

P.S.  If there are any other neat tricks that you can think of, that would
      be great too.
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: Proposed Standard for Labradors
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:19:11 GMT

In <16B548AB8.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu> CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
[to Liza's and Marla's discussion]
>Agreed.

I may faint.  *All* of us in agreement??  ;-)
(I just posted my letter to the group, which pretty much agrees with
all of the above deleted points.)

>I would add #5 to this:  I beleive the proposed standard should not
>only include language that indicates that the dog LOOKS like it can
>work, but it should have to prove at least a minimum degree that it
>DOES work (ie. Make them be able to do at *least* JH work).
>(oh, I can see the flames comming over this....   ;-)   )

But the LRC requires that any Champion of Breed have a WC [working
certificate] before it can advertise/use it's CH.  Since AKC doesn't
enforce this, you have people who don't do this, but it's the LRC's
official position as I understand it.  Now, conversely, I'd like
something for FTCh analogous to a WC -- perhaps BC [breed certificate]
-- that basically says that the dog does conform to the Labrador
standard (though it might or might not win any points, just as a WC
might or might not make a FTCh).  I would love to see the gap between
field and show lines close up.  I would absolutely love to see some
Dual Champion Labradors, for example.

--Cindy
--
Cindy Tittle Moore

Terrell's Chocolate Deduction--Hershe (Labrador Retriever)

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From: ahanson@boi.hp.com (Angela Hanson)
Subject: Re: An Anti-Dog Trend Coming?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:27:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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My husband and I just spent 2 months trying to find a place to rent with our two dogs.
We our currently building a house and the house was not completed before we had to move
out of our existing house.  The rental market in Boise is tight anyway, but if you have
animals, it is tighter yet.  About 95 percent of the people we contacted would not allow
pets.  This was after weeks of calling adds in the paper and contacting all rental agencies.
The people who would allow pets would allow allow small dogs and we have to large Bernese
Mountain dogs.  It was so frustrating because our dogs behave better than most peoples
kids and no one bothered to question us as to whether or not we have kids.  Another one
of my friends had the same problem with their dog and 3 cats.  They finally ended up at 
a hotel for two months for a bill over 2 thousand dollers.

We did finally find a place to rent through one of the rental agencies in town, but it
was a most frustrating process.  One I never want to go through again.

Angie
From: akh@empress.gvg.tek.com (Anna K. Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dogs & Chromium (was Re: Large Breeds Showing Age)
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:57:28 GMT
Reply-To: akh@empress.gvg.tek.com
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
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Large or small, they age too fast.  I have a Lab who's about 6 years old &
slowing down some, & what with the news on anti-aging effects of 
chromium,  I put him on 100 mg/day 2-3 months ago.  And over that time
he has gone from a black-noser to a brown-noser--no other ill effects that
I can tell, but it's disconcerting.   Anyone with any info on chromium
tolerance & optimum dosage levels for dogs?  If if works for mice & in theory 
should work for humans, is there any reason it shouldn't also work for dogs? 
 
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From: bds@mbunix.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: Re: New Proposed Standard for Labradors
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:42:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.190555.659@newshost.lanl.gov> crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes:
>
>Further, I suspect that even though not everyone is specifically
>interested in the Labrador breed standard, most have a favorite
>breed of some description and may be interested in the general
>process of breed-standard revision.  Further, if there are no copy-
>right problems, it may not be a bad idea to post the proposed breed
>standard.  I'll bet that there are some readers of r.p.d who may
>have never seen a breed standard and who may like to see an example.
>
>Anyone else interested in seeing the discussion take place in r.p.d?
>
>Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"

As Charlie knows from private correspondence, I think this issue is
very interesting.  I also think that it may help clear up some
problems I have had understanding phrases like, "A breeder should
strive to improve the breed."  (As a case in point, I'd like to know
if, given a dog of a breed that has longer or shorter hair than the
breed standard but will clearly outperform the typical member of that
breed in some essential activity like hunting or tracking, should that
dog be considered an improvement on the breed, a new breed, or an
embarrassment to the breed?)  So I would like to see the discussion
take place in r.p.d, for what my opinion is worth.

Barry Smith



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From: prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Itchy Tummy
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 11 Jan 1993 11:45 EST  


Does anyone know of any over the counter products that will relieve itching 
as in bug bit type itching?  Our golden keeps getting what looks like 
mosquito bites in various areas of his belly that he scratches and bites at 
so I know they're itching.  They go away but then he gets more of them.  He 
isn't scratching or biting to the point where his skin breaks out (he did 
this once with an allergy and the vet took care of it) but I hate to see 
him keep scratching like that.  I called the vet but they won't recommend 
any over the counter remedies, they want me to bring him in for the same 
injection he had with an allergy.  I'm hoping there is an alternative to 
this because he did have side effects from that shot and also between the 
visit, the shot, and the topical medicine the last time was $70 and I 
really can't affort to spend that much every few weeks.  Has anyone else 
had a similar problem or know of something we can do?  I though of giving 
him the brewers yeast/garlic tablets he had in the warmer months to ward 
off fleas (which he didn't get) with the reasoning that if they kept away 
fleas maybe they'd discourage whatever is biting him now.  All suggestions 
are more than welcome!


            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*

			
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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Carpet Eating
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:33:17 GMT

In article <93006.115814JFEERO@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>,
<JFEERO@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
solution? Someone once suggested I keep a pot of grass in the house
|>for cats who were eating my spider plant. Would this work to keep
|>my dog from eating the carpet? It's the first time I've ever heard
|>of a dog doing such a thing. If anyone has any similar experiences
|>or suggestions, please feel free to post! Thanks.
|>
|>Jo.
|>

Our Cocker used to try to eat the carpet WITH THE CATS' HELP! Those 
three would stand at a corner and the dog would scratch at the carpet.
When she'd get the carpet to jump up a little one of the cats would
grab it with mouth or claw and they'd all have a chew. We watched
them once, just to see WHO was doing it (of course, we had to watch
from outside thru a window ). I would really holler at them when I 
saw them considereing it and sprayed 'Bitter Apple' PLUS a spray
called "Boundary" (meant to keep dogs off stuff). The Bitter Apple
made it a very unpleasant thing to chew and the smell kept the dog
away and the Boundary, although mainly meant for dogs really had
an effect on the cats. I've caught our new pup, Siegfried, trying it 
too but a good holler at him and some bitter apple has kept him
away. About the pot of grass, dogs do seem to like to eat some
grass too. We had a big pot of some sort of striped grass that Peter's
mom gave us that he dogs and cats loved to eat and both the cats
and Baeki would share the pot. And they ate A LOT of it. Sometimes
I feel like I have a houseful of horses (not that I would mind! :)  ) 
instead of a couple of dogs and a couple of cats! All the grass those
4 will eat! Sometimes, when it's warm, we take the cats out and
all they'll do is graze..honest, it's like a bunch of horses/cows/sheep!

kay &  grass-eating/carpet-eating crew 
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Related to my note about our problem Basset Hound: does anyone know of
a Basset breeder in Fairfield or of a good way to find one?  We got our
dogs from a breeder up there, but I don't think we have the receipt or
papers anymore (we never registered them).  I want to find the breeder
so that if we need to find a new home for Truffle, the breeder might
want to take her back as a pet (as I think all their children should 
be old enough).

Scott
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Coonhounds...
Date: 5 Jan 93 08:33:56 GMT
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
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In <19147@mindlink.bc.ca>, Valaria Vorlop writes:
>I was watching a movie with Coonhounds in it today, and I got to wondering...
>
>They showed the dogs running after the racoon until it went up a tree, then
>they showed the person chopping the tree down. The tree fell, the racoon was
>on the ground again and the dogs went after it. How is the racoon eventually
>caught? They never did show this...are the dogs supposed to catch it? Do they
>just keep the racoon running and prevent it from eating until it dies from
>exhaustion? The guy hunting didn't have a gun or anything...

sounds like "where the red fern grows".  the theory(in the book at least) was
the dogs would find the trail, tree the coon(preferably in a smallish tree).
then the human would cut the tree down *while the dogs were right there ready
to pounce*.  the coon jumps out, the dogs get it.

in the story, it was the kid and his dogs' first hunt, and he promised them if
they'd tree the coon for him, "he'd take care of the rest".  the raccoon 
treed in a huge tree.  any other time he would have given up but since he'd
promised the dogs and himself, he spent hours cutting it down.

seems pretty odd to me, too.  letting the dogs kill the coon would(i would
think) ruin the hide, which is one reason hunters use guns.  shooting would
mean a quicker death for the coon and less danger of mauled dogs, too.
i've never heard anywhere else about anyone hunting raccoon with dogs but no
gun(not with the goal of taking sellable hides anyway).
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: eufnlasn@ux1.lbl.gov (elizabeth finlayson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: why is my dog scooting around on his butt?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:39:18 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: eufnlasn@ux1.lbl.gov (elizabeth finlayson)
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In article <8254@lib.tmc.edu> drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:
>In article <C0321I.6ou@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike
>Schneider) writes:
	 explain to me why my
>>dog does this occasionally, and what the frequency may mean?
>
>Your dog's anal sacs are full - they need to be expressed. 

Its true your dog's anal sacs might be full or he might have a tapeworm.
However, I have lived with a scooter, Zack alias Butt Rubber, for eight
years now and although on rare occasions these problems have occured 
usually there is nothing wrong with him.  I think it might be related
to the same energy accumulation that causes the root of his tail area
to be warm.  The vitamins and Linatone I give him to stop biting around
there have reduced the scooting.  I also fluff his aura :) YES I KNOW
THAT SOUNDS ODD.  But if I move my hands in a fluffing motion above,
not touching his back side, it gives him relief.  I wish there was a simple
answer for me.  Zack got the name Butt Rubber because he goes up to
people in the park, swings around to get his butt scratched and if you oblige
you are treated to a song and dance.  Its pretty charming if you like
that sort of thing.  

By the way:  Just like my employer I do not take reponsibility for the
accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any of the above information.

Elizabeth
eufinlayson@lbl.gov
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From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Re: Question regarding cost of registering a litter
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:54:48 GMT

In article <rasmussenc.70.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu> rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu writes:
>Can anyone tell me how much it costs a breeder to register a litter of
>puppies?  (AKC)
>
	It costs $15 for the breeder to register a litter of puppies with the
AKC. This is probably the only inexpensive part of raising a litter.

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NORWOOD KENNELS   |Retrievers who do therapy dog work, a disobedient but
ems: sla54@cas.org|beautiful Siberian husky and a *cute* Norfolk terrier puppy
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From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:22:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Goldens as protection?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

I raised a golden for CCI and she was very friendly in most circumstances.
But at night in our bedroom she would protect me- example: my husband arrived
home at 2 am from a business trip and entered the house quietly trying not
to wake me up.  The golden woke me up, and she sounded MEAN.  I was grateful
to her.  Had it not been my husband, I would have wanted her to warn me.

I agree, it's probably an age thing.  I've also read about animals who are
docile and friendly but who suddenly save their owners from attack by
muggers, etc.  Do you think they sense bad intentions from thugs?
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Date: Sat,  2 Jan 93 00:28:03 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Dalmations
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  I read through the answers you got about getting a Dalmatian. There
appeared to be several plusses and minuses.  One fact that our pals
here failed to mention to you is that there is a hight incidence of
genetic deafness in Dalmatians.  
  they are a beautiful dogs, but it would be a good idea to get the
dog's hearing checked before you buy it.  Often, the pup will have
unilateral deafness, hearing only out of one ear.  
  I have no direct experience with Dals, but have had different people
tell me that they were the best dogs they ever had.  Others had some
problems.
  Oh, yes, lately I had heard that they can be nippy and overly
aggressive.
--- FMail 0.92
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From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:02:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Large Breeds Showing Age
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

I have had a number of Irish Setters, and they have traditionally lived about
12 years.  Larger dogs, like Great Danes, live slightly shorter lives
*in general*.  The graying depends on lots of factors.  Some gray early, but
stay vibrant and energetic for years.

It's about time to ask your vet to do a blood work-up on your dog.  As dogs
age, their kidneys get weaker and it frequently shows up in the chemical count
in the blood.  Kidney health can be greatly prolonged by kidney-sensitive
diets, and you need to know the status of your dog's blood so you can know
when you need to start accomodating this natural decline.

If your dog is totally healthy and the blood says "fit as a fiddle", great.
Now you have a good baseline.  I have this done every year now on my 7-yr
old Irish Setter.

Our neighbor's Great Dane lived to be about 9.  That's just a datapoint.
By the way, I think your dog is very lucky to have been adopted by you.
The professional portrait..... you obviously love your dog very much.  Good for
you.  No matter how long a dog lives, they care most about whether or not they
were loved.

Good luck.
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: puppy mills
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:04:09 GMT
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine

In <1993Jan12.193647.20940@newshost.lanl.gov> crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes:

>In article <2B5200AC.8640@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>= In <C0pJ7n.1Kw0@austin.ibm.com> repass@austin.ibm.com (Jim Repass) writes:
>=
>= >Now back to my point. Is displaysia in Retrievers rare? Or is it a problem
>= >that won't let them function? Different breeds apparently handle Displaysia
>= >(and guarantees) differently.
>=
>= No, it is not, unfortunately.  It seems to be apparent in almost any
>= breed over 50lbs.  There are some exceptions, but I can't think of them
>= off the top of my head.

>Cindy,

>Do you recall where that "50 lb" figure comes from?  I keep seeing

I should have been more specific.  As I understand it, the more the
average weight of a breed is, the more likely there is trouble with
HD.  But there are, as you point out, plenty of smaller breeds with
problems.

--Cindy

--
Cindy Tittle Moore

Terrell's Chocolate Deduction--Hershe (Labrador Retriever)

The rec.pets.dogs FAQ -- all ten parts -- is available via ftp to
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