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From: ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan)
Subject: Re: WHO'S HOTTEST ON DS9?
Organization: HNSX Supercomputers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:37:46 GMT


>My God!  I thought that this would be over after the Troi nonsense.  What
>in the name of (insert favorite holy symbol) does this really matter?  
>Aren't we old enough by now to end this sophomoric rating on a
>"Babe-o-meter?"

Nope. :) Nana Visitor gets my vote!

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From: karell@cs2.lamar.edu
Subject: ODE TO SPOT and a humble request
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:29:21 GMT



For the person who requested 'Ode to Spot', I transcribed it from this
weekend's rerun--but in return, I have a request.  I am searching for
a recipe for the warm milk toddy that Picard got from his Aunt Adele.
If anyone has a recipe for it, please e-mail me.

Also, I am apologizing in advance for any errors in spelling, poetic 
structure, or just misunderstanding his words.

'Ode to Spot'

Felis Catus
  is your taxonomic nomenclature
An endothormic quadruped
  carniverous by nature
Your visual, olfactory,
  and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills
  and natural defenses.
I find myself intrigued
  by your sub-vocal oscillations
A singular development
  of cat communications
That obviates your 
  basic hedonistic predilection
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur
  to demonstrate affection.
A tail is quite essential
  for your acrobatic talents
You would not be so agile
  if you lacked its counterbalance
And when not being utilized
  to aid in locomotion
It often serves to illustrate
  the state of your emotion

Oh Spot,
The complex levels of behavior you display
Denote a fairly well developed cognitive array
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.



Thanks in advance for any help on that recipe.

Mindy

Karell@cs0.lamar.edu

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From: curtw@euler.jsc.nasa.gov (Curt Wiederhoeft)
Subject: Re: Comments on DS9 "Emissary" **SPOILERS**
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co., Houston
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:51:28 GMT

In article <C0E1E1.HHs.1@cs.cmu.edu>, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
wrote:
> 
> The Tritt (Dax?):  Using the orb to reveal her past was a clever way
> to show those who hadn't seen "The Host" what a Tritt was without
> Dax having to go into "sermon mode"  as other characters have done
> in premieres to describe what drives them (most notably Tasha Yar and
> Data in "EaF," and Odo in this episode).  I am not thrilled with the 
> actress portraying the Tritt -- she sounds as if she's reading her
> lines from cue cards -- but perhaps this will get better as she gets
> used to the character.  (She doesn't have job security, anyway, since
> anyone can play the Tritt... 8^)
> 
Excuse me, but I *haven't* seen "The Host" (or much of the last three
seasons
of TNG), and I'm really puzzled about Dax. Is someone willing to pass on a
short
primer? I found myself very annoyed during the flashback sequence, when I
realized that there were TWO intelligent beings inhabiting one body, and
Sisko
addressed them as one. Very un-Federation like. What's the deal here?

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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: DSN or DS9 ?
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:12:54 GMT

meb@sally.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky) writes:

>The "Official" abriviation (the one used by people actually involved with  
>the shoe) is DS9. That's what I'll use for now. What actually ends up being  
>used on the nets......well, only time will tell.

Just out of curiousity, how do you know that DS9 is what the people 
involved use?

	CtB

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From: greer@euphoria.xis.xerox.com (Greer Tan Swiston)
Subject: Re: Did parts of DS9 dragged?!
Organization: Xerox Imaging Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:30:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.112936.7243@leland.Stanford.EDU> trekker@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sanjai Dwivedula Rao) writes:
>In article <1iit37INNmbi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> yjc@po.CWRU.Edu (Y H J. Chan) writes:
>>
>>Is it my imagination or that the trip in the wormhole dragged a great deal?
>>The other parts were kind of alright ...
>
>I think you're absolutely right.  The whole wormhole sequence was mixed with
>the rest of the plot and dragged for about 45 minutes.  While the concept
>and the content were good, I think they could have accomplished what they
>wanted in a lot less time.
>
>Sanjai Rao.
>

I disagree ... though the writers may have gotten a little carried
away with this concept of communication through using his own memories
... I do not believe the "beings" were as ignorant of Sisko's make up
as they put on.  They ARE more "knowing" beings, I think ... and they
just wanted him to get in touch with himself.  They *need* him, but
they won't be able to make use of him unless he stays ... so they need
him to resolve his internal turmoils ... it was more that he needed to
understand himself, and in having to explain to someone else ... he
finally got the clue.  The length of time it took him to wrestle with
it all, I felt, was necessary in order to make it believable that he
actually COULD resolve this three year internal battle he's had and
not trivialize it.

The line "It is not linear." I thought was great because it was
delivered the way Spock always said "It is not logical."


Greer Swiston
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Subject: Re: Fox and DS9?
From: CHD@HERMES.ECE.ARIZONA.EDU (Chris De Young)
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:33:04 MST
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In <1993Jan5.054307.15971@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rrodabau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:

> Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is being released directly into syndication,
> following a recent trend in television to avoid long-term gambles with
> networks and make a quick dash for the cash. DSN is particularly suited to

Actually I believe that ST:TNG started out this trend, and that it was 
originally done to avoid allowing the networks any control over the scripts
or production of the series.  They would make the series the way they wanted 
it, and individual stations could pick it up or not as they wished.

Star Trek had of course been shown by this time to be a pretty reliable market
anyway; doing without the network contract wasn't much of a gamble on
Paramount's part. 

-Chris
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From: cottle@b11.b11.ingr.com (Tim Cottle)
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:56:24 GMT

alpha@hubcap.clemson.edu (Shekhar Borde) writes:


>Didn't he also play the police lieutenant in Beverly Hills Cop I & II ?

>-Shekhar

He definitely was the police chief in a show I really liked, but no one else
seemed to (witness its early cancellation) called "Cop Rock".  Randy Newman
did the theme song and score.



Tim


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From: pmichals@teal.csn.org (Paul Michals)
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:23:30 GMT

gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
: In article <C0E0LK.4sF@csn.org> pmichals@teal.csn.org (Paul Michals) writes:
: >JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu writes:
: >: Another solution is to broaden the venue of ST:TNG to include more starships
: >: than just the Enterprise.
: >You bring up an interesting point (and perhaps a long term solution if
: >Paramount wants to keep TNG going-and I'm sure they do). I can see TNG
: >evolving into a sort of anthology series
: 
: 	I don't.
: 
:  where we see Federation life from
: >many different perspectives. The only caveat is that people generally like
: >to follow specific characters week after week so they would have to be careful
: >not to introduce too many elements.
: 
: 	Anthology series DIE in the ratings and in syndication. In addition,
: set costs would go through the roof.
: 
: 	Essentially and dramatically, there is absolutely NO REASON to show
: ships other than the Enterprise. Each ship serves the same purpose. The
: only difference would be the characters--and it's a hell of a lot easier
: writing and a lot more effective to spend that effort on continuing
: characters and bounce guest stars off of them.
: 
: -- 
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: Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW, Uncle Bonsai Memorial Fan Club
: 	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
: with the cast of a musical revue."

You are right, of course, about normal anthology series failing on TV.
However, I feel a TNG anthology would evolve quite differently. TNG has a
rich deep background that most viewers are familiar with. As the characters
we've grown to 'know' leave the Enterprise to pursue their own destinies it
could be be interesting and involving. Think of the plot possibilities of 
bringing different combinations of the old crew together in one adventure
or another. 

Also I do not think the ships are interchangable. Data as captain of a four
person garbage scow would present a completely different environment than say
the 1000 person hospital ship that Dr Crusher is assigned to. And of course
some of the crew would be assigned planetside and would not even be on a ship.

The cost for sets for all this would be something Paramount would have to bite
the bullet on. The return I think would justify the gamble. 

Really, aren't we seeing the beginning of a TNG anthology with the start-up of
DSN?

paul m.



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From: ckeroack@hamp.hampshire.edu
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Subject: Coming soon: semi-regular synops of DSN
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:19:04 EDT
Organization: Hampshire College
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamp.hampshire.edu

		As broadcast areas go I'm rather late in seeing episodes of TNG
and DSN, but despite that I'll be posting (irregularly, until I develop a way
to note down stuff in an episode efficiently... I just did it for the first
time for this now, and boy am I exhausted) a regular Synopsis & Review a la
Tim Lynch of DSN episodes.
		So watch for my synop and review sometime this evening.
		If a certain someone at a certain california university would
like to do me a foavur by getting in touch with me about how HE notes down
stuff for episodes and if he could set up a DSN directory in his subdirectory
at his local FTP site I'd be most grateful. =)
		

						-chris
 
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From: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com (Ron Beck)
Subject: Re: "Green uniforms" WAS: data watch
Reply-To: rbeck@mordor.dseg.ti.com
Organization: is an esoteric concept.
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:45:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan02.122849.29451@uumeme.chi.il.us>, rwmech@uumeme.chi.il.us (Robert W. Mech) writes:
|> In article <alix.725689561@pv663c.vincent.iastate.edu> alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy) writes:
|> >Yes, I just read the TV Guide article today and noticed that the person wearing
|> >the green uniform was the Trill doctor.  Shouldn't she be wearing blue?  Or,
|> >what's everyone's speculation for THAT particular doctor to wear green.
|> >
|> 
|> I read that article also, could it be that we dont know all about this episode?
|> It may be that she is a doctor, but being of lets say a "employed" nature.
|> She may not actualy be a federation doctor lets say, and that she is working
|> there as part of the crew but actualy somone who is just hired by the
|> federation.  Im just grabbing at straws here really, but then again, we dont
|> know all there is to know about the episode.
|> 
|> -- 
|> :*: rwmech@uumeme.chi.il.us | Owner/Adminstrator UUMEME Public Access Xenix :*:
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Bob's Law of appliances: The repairman will never have seen a model like yours
|>                          before.

Actually, I've noticed that Beverly's uniform looks green on occasion.
 I don't know if it's the lighting or what.  I would *assume*
(probably a mistake on my part) that the uniform is supposed to be
blue and the color didn't print quite right.

Then again, I am due for an eye exam 8-).

Ron
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The worms within...
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:26:37 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <93004.115417U15289@uicvm.uic.edu> U15289@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
<In DS9, Lt. Dax's backstory states she is a wormlike species squatting in a
<humanoid body.  Does anyone know if the worm, in this case, is the same species
<that figured in an episode of TNG, in which Dr. Crusher was romantically in-
<volved with a man who was also a host for a wormlike creature (an ambassador
<of some sort), who had to be parked in Riker's body temporarily until the
<new host (a woman, who ended the episode by saying she loved Beverly) arrived?

Yes, it is.
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From: BARNESD@vax1.elon.edu (Danny Barnes  )
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Subject: Spelling of Characters' names
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:40:13 GMT
Organization: Elon College
Distribution: world
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Is it just me or does anyone else seem a little curious about the fact that all
these people who are fans of TNG/DS9/TOS/ST1-6 can't spell the characters'
names to save their butts?

Just in the past week here and on other systems and in the news media I have
seen:

Picard:  Piccard, Pickard, Pikard, Jean-Luke Picard, and others that had to be
typos.

Riker:  Rikker, Ryker, "Commander Willam T. Ricker" (newspaper report)

Worf:  Warf

LaForge:  LeForge, LaFarge, LeFarge, Jordi

Troi:  Troy (some newspapers STILL use that!), Diana

Guinan:  Hell, some people can't even spell Whoopi!

Sarek:  Serek, Sarak, Serak

also butchered:  Ferengi, Bajoran, Borg (duh!)

Get with it people!  Nobody's going to take you seriously if you can't even
spell the names right!  (This has nothing to do with parodys, so don't even
start!)  I can understand typos, but seriously, it's annoying!

Of course, you can either agree or disagree, and those who disagree, feel free
to flame, I never get any e-mail anyway!

-Danny Barnes
From: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Data Watch
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:03:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 

On 3 Jan 93 21:59:47 GMT, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) wrote:

MR>>I think your memory fails you.  Ever since the first season, TNG security
MR>>officers have worn gold (except Worf, who, for some reason, wore red in
MR>>the first season).

MR>Worf wasn't in security for most of the first season.  In many episodes, he
MR>was the helmsman!  (And helmsmen have always worn red, yes?)

MR>Worf may have worn red the rest of the first season because he hadn't been
MR>"officially" transferred to the security division until season two.  But we
MR>don't really know.  It was only a few episodes, anyway.

I'll take your word for it.  I have stronger memories of Worf serving as
a member of Tasha's security division than I do of Worf serving at the
helm, though I do distinctly remember him at one of those two fore
stations (either helm or Ops).  It's likely that he served in both
departments to some capacity; cross-training seems to be fairly common
in TNG.


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From: heyer@stsci.edu
Subject: THE BIG QUESTION (DS9,guide,Vidiot)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:20:59 GMT

Now that DS9 has premiered, the big question is:

How can Vidiot be persuaded/bribed/cajoled into producing a DEEP SPACE NINE
PROGRAM GUIDE? 

I REALLY like the TNG one (who doesn't), so how about it? Or am I behind the
times and you're already making one? :-)
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:00:06 EST
From: Wendell Bates <WRB4@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: O'Brien=Scotty?
Distribution: world
 <93011.163440WRB4@psuvm.psu.edu> <1993Jan12.105647.62650@cc.usu.edu>

In article <1993Jan12.105647.62650@cc.usu.edu>, slwmz@cc.usu.edu says:
>
>
>While I was in the Navy I was stationed aboard Subs.  Even though I was just
>the ships personnelman, my duties included being the helmsman and having to
>learn everything about every system aboard the submarine that I was stationed
>on. I had to know how to bypass items and where all the cutoff valves were.
>I can see where the same principal would be employed in Starships being that
>an
>emergency may come up and you are the only one in the area at the time that
>could facilitate repairs or bypass the affected system.
>
>Peter Wood    SLWMZ at CC.USU.EDU

  Ok, I can buy that, but after you had learned all that stuff, were you then
transferred to a foreign aircraft carrier and put in charge of all operations/
maintainance there?  (That's the closest analogy I can give you concerning
O'Brien's position.)


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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Re: To whomever wants to talk trash about DS9...
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:23:48 GMT

In article <rawdon.726778154@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1ikraiINNa1j@lester.appstate.edu> BARNESD@vax1.elon.edu (Danny Barnes  ) writes:
>>Just remember...TNG wasn't all that great it's first season either!

>TNG wasn't all that great in its second, third, fourth, fifth, or sixth
>seasons, either!


And yet you never miss an episode, and if you do, you probably tape it
for later viewing.


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From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ---< DS9: Emissary >--- *SPOILERS*
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:03:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon

mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>Well,well,well....

(Spoilers)

>I am IMPRESSED....

Me, too.  I had low expectations, and was pleasantly surprised to find my
fears unjustified.

>-the Bagoran second-in-command: Again, her feelings for the Cardasian/Bagoran
>war, her feelings on leadership all help shape (and do I mean 'shape'!) her 
>character on the show.

My personal favorite scene involving her was her tongue-lashing of Julian
Bashar, dressing him down for playing the part of the Great Hero-Savior of 
Bajor.  I'd like to see more of that type of friction.

>In fact, if the stardates are correct, then this takes place after CoC, while 
>the Big-E is by the Cardasian border.  

Yep.  In fact, there will be one sort-of-crossover later this year in 
involving Worf.  (No spoilers here; look elsewhere for a description 8^)

>All in all, a great show.  As others have said before me, Gene would have
>been proud of it..

Actually, I disagree with that, but then again I don't think Star Trek should 
be solely bound by Gene's vision of the future.



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From: demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo )
Subject: Re: John Becker...
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab: Fine Food and Coffee
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:15:50

In article <1iaijrINN26v@news.gac.edu> jmeyer@catarina.gac.edu (Jennifer R Meyer) writes:

> Sorry....someone has brought it to my attention that Purdue is in  
> Indiana...oh well...like any of them know where Gustavus is...=)
> Jennifer

Minnesota. What do I win? What do I win?!

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