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From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: Re: Unix/XWindow on my 486...Where/How much?
Date: 25 Aug 1992 16:27:00 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:

>In article <17dtuhINNff4@early-bird.think.com>, philip@think.com (Philip Mucci) writes:
>>...SCO... Could someone give me a
>> rundown on what kind of Unix/X packages are available for the 486?
>> 
>Well, I've heard of a few, e.g. Linux, Solaris, a Novell "shrink-wrapped" Unix

>As I understand it, Unix on PC hardware is very sensitive to support - you need
>a steady flow of drivers and updates for new boards.  I know of SCO being used

No no no!
There are a host of excellent Unix options for the PC, SCO is merely
the worst-priced of them.

You don't need a "steady stream of drivers".   You need to get your
system up and running once, and then it'll work "forever".

Commercial
----------

1. Interactive Systems Unix
   SV oriented, you get $195 upgrade to Solaris 2.0 for Intel.
2. SCO -- nasty incompatibilities may bite every once in a while :-(
3. many small companies producing SVR4 implementations.  See Eric
   Raymond's posting for more.

RSN:
1. Solaris 2.0 for Intel (will be same as the OS which runs on a Sun
   workstation)
2. "Destiny" -- Novell + USL SVR4 implementation
3. Nextstep

Free
----

1. Linux
   Full Unix, with X, no networking.  Too good to be true.
2. 386-BSD
   Not as many hackers into it as Linux.  But it has networking and NFS.

RSN
1. Hurd
   The GNU OS.  Been in the works for decades.  Based on Mach.

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
From: dmacneil@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: PC-NFS4.0a and AccPac
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:19:43 GMT

I'm having problems getting an accounting program called
AccPac (Computer Associates Ltd.) to run properly with
PC-NFS 4.0a and a SunSparc2 server.

Is anybody else using this program with PC-NFS 4.0a?

My specific problem seems to be with file locking and
sharing. AccPac does not support PC-NFS directly so
I'm caught in a bit af a void.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Specifically with
directory protections on the SunSparc and the DOS setup on
the PC end.

Thanks.

-----------------------------------------------------------
David MacNeil
St.John's, Newfoundland, Canada
dmacneil@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: kooper@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Rob Kooper)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: Re: Unix/XWindow on my 486...Where/How much?
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:20:53 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

In article <17dtuhINNff4@early-bird.think.com> philip@think.com (Philip Mucci) writes:
>
>	Hi all,
>
>	I am thinking of buying a 486, but only if it will run Unix and X
>windows. The other day I called an SCO dealer and they said that a fully
>configured software package (read: C compiler, Unix, and X - no NFS) for a
>single user would cost $1600.0 with student discount!! I might as well keep
>my amiga and buy unix for it. That's ridiculous. Could someone give me a
>rundown on what kind of Unix/X packages are available for the 486?
>
>	Thanks,
>	-Pjm

You can run both Unix an X11 for, believe it or not, nothing.

Now for the serious part. There is a Unix, named Linux, which is freeware.
There is also a port for X11, problem is it isn't running on all videocards.
As far as I know it does support Tseng, Paradise and some other cards. If you
want more information about Linux and/or X11 please check the newsgroup:
comp.os.linux

Goodluck
--
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    rob@is.twi.tudelft.nl        | made with artificial ingredients and 
    kooper@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl | furniture polish is made of real lemons!
                                 |             -Alfred E. Neuman (MAD #310)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
From: rgb@esleng.ocunix.on.ca (Richard Briggs)
Subject: Re: Unix/XWindow on my 486...Where/How much?
Organization: Excalibur Systems Limited, Kanata, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:58:05 GMT

In article <l9lge4INN9e2@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>
>>In article <17dtuhINNff4@early-bird.think.com>, philip@think.com (Philip Mucci) writes:
>>>...SCO... Could someone give me a
>>> rundown on what kind of Unix/X packages are available for the 486?
>>> 
>>Well, I've heard of a few, e.g. Linux, Solaris, a Novell "shrink-wrapped" Unix
>
>>As I understand it, Unix on PC hardware is very sensitive to support - you need
>>a steady flow of drivers and updates for new boards.  I know of SCO being used
>
>No no no!
>There are a host of excellent Unix options for the PC, SCO is merely
>the worst-priced of them.
>
>You don't need a "steady stream of drivers".   You need to get your
>system up and running once, and then it'll work "forever".
>
>Commercial
>----------
>
>1. Interactive Systems Unix
>   SV oriented, you get $195 upgrade to Solaris 2.0 for Intel.
>2. SCO -- nasty incompatibilities may bite every once in a while :-(
>3. many small companies producing SVR4 implementations.  See Eric
>   Raymond's posting for more.
>
>RSN:
>1. Solaris 2.0 for Intel (will be same as the OS which runs on a Sun
>   workstation)
>2. "Destiny" -- Novell + USL SVR4 implementation
>3. Nextstep
>
>Free
>----
>
>1. Linux
>   Full Unix, with X, no networking.  Too good to be true.

Linux now has a beta TCP/IP at the finland site, MIT in a few days...
	Richard

>2. 386-BSD
>   Not as many hackers into it as Linux.  But it has networking and NFS.
>
>RSN
>1. Hurd
>   The GNU OS.  Been in the works for decades.  Based on Mach.
>
>        -ans.
>-- 
>Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu


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From: rick.guthier@cccbbs.UUCP (Rick Guthier) 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: DROP
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:19:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: rick.guthier@cccbbs.UUCP (Rick Guthier) 

                                                                                                                                
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
From: young@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (liufs)
Subject: X Server on PC
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, Univ. of Tokyo, Japan.
Distribution: comp.unix.msdos
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:51:10 GMT

Hi!

This may be a question asked hundreds of times. I am looking for X server
for IBM PC and compatibles. I also want to know how to run X window on
PC, under Windows for example, and which X window product is better. Any
information is appreciated. Please email to me at
young@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp

Thank you in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: Re: Unix/XWindow on my 486...Where/How much?
From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:15:46 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <17dtuhINNff4@early-bird.think.com>, philip@think.com (Philip Mucci) writes:
>...SCO... Could someone give me a
> rundown on what kind of Unix/X packages are available for the 486?
> 
Well, I've heard of a few, e.g. Linux, Solaris, a Novell "shrink-wrapped" Unix
and some (I think free) BSD port.  I don't have a lot of details about them,
so I hope that anyone responding to the original poster will also help me by
indicating where these have got to, how much support there is for them, etc.

As I understand it, Unix on PC hardware is very sensitive to support - you need
a steady flow of drivers and updates for new boards.  I know of SCO being used
where they really need an updated version, but it is beyond their budget, so I
guess cost is an important parameter too.

I've heard people say that major packages like X11, TeX and emacs/epoch will
compile on some of these Unixes (Unices? Unixen??) with minor modifications,
although that's not the same as being a big enough product that major packages
come ready-tested and configured for them. 

Mark Aitchison, University of Canterbury.
From: zaidin@castor.cs.uga.edu (Zaimi Zaidin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: Re: DROP
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:50:39 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <639.82.uupcb@cccbbs.UUCP> rick.guthier@cccbbs.UUCP (Rick Guthier) writes:
>
>                                                                                                                                


DROP DEAD !!!!
Xref: sparky comp.unix.msdos:978 comp.unix.bsd:4982
From: epl@doc.ic.ac.uk (Peter Lennon)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Dos to Unix
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:56:23 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: swan.doc.ic.ac.uk

Dear Netters-I hava an interesting problem.I have two seperate
IDE H/D.One contains Dos the other contains BSD UNIX.I have 
seen plenty of programs that go from unix to dos when they are both
on the same disk but is there one that does it with seperate
disks.There is nothing wrong with either disk because I can boot
off either when it is drive C.
                Peter Lennon.\

-- 
		Peter Lennon

You cant blame canary wharf on Peter Lennon
From: philip@think.com (Philip Mucci)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: Unix/XWindow on my 486...Where/How much?
Date: 25 Aug 1992 18:25:21 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: clarence.think.com


	Hi all,

	I am thinking of buying a 486, but only if it will run Unix and X
windows. The other day I called an SCO dealer and they said that a fully
configured software package (read: C compiler, Unix, and X - no NFS) for a
single user would cost $1600.0 with student discount!! I might as well keep
my amiga and buy unix for it. That's ridiculous. Could someone give me a
rundown on what kind of Unix/X packages are available for the 486?

	Thanks,
	-Pjm
From: skutvik@sleepy.UUCP ( ECMS TEST)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: Re: Unix/XWindow on my 486...Where/How much?
Summary: 386bsd
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:40:10 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

In article <17dtuhINNff4@early-bird.think.com>, philip@think.com (Philip Mucci) writes:
> 
> 	Hi all,
> 
> 	I am thinking of buying a 486, but only if it will run Unix and X
> windows. [...].
{deleted text about $1600 for an SCO system}
>That's ridiculous. Could someone give me a
> rundown on what kind of Unix/X packages are available for the 486?

You might look into 386bsd, it's not commercial, nor is it complete (yet), but
it runs on 3/486 machines, is fairly stable, comes with full (non-AT&T) source,
and is ... FREE.  take a look at comp.unix.bsd
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
From: dtb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Bath)
Subject: Re: PCs connectet to UNIX
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.
Date:  3 Sep 92 06:50:13 GMT

giaahu@giau01.gia.ch (Andreas Huerzeler) writes:



>Hello all,

>We consider to connect our PCs to a UNIX host. Currently we 
>work with DEC ULTRIX Systems, but we prefer no proprietary 
>Software. We intend to store all the PC-programs and data on the 
>host, thus we need the local PC-disks only for swapping. There
>are no floppydrives installed on the PCs.

>Which is the suitable serversoftware ?

Check out the NCSATELNET directory on SIMTEL 192.88.110.20 and
get their Telnet, FTP et al.

You will then have good cheap TCP/IP connections 

========================================================================
David T. Bath
email: 	dtb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au		Phone: (03) 3477511
Work: 	Global Technology Corporation, Carlton, Vic, AUSTRALIA
#include <smartarseremark.h>
=======================================================================
--
========================================================================
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email: 	dtb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Work: 	Global Technology Corporation, Carlton, Vic, OZ  (03) 3477511
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
From: tony@scubed.com (Tony Luu)
Subject: Re: Yacc, Lex, Bison for MSDOS ???
Organization: S-Cubed, San Diego California
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:22:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.123501.16142@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> zimmerms@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stephan Zimmermann) writes:
>
>Keywords: 
>
>Does anybody know if YACC, BISON or LEX is available for MSDOS ?
>I need it desperatly !
>
>Thanks in advance Stephan.

check this out:
	MKS
	35 King Street North
	Waterloo, Ontario
	Canada. N2J 2W9

they have a whole bunch of Unix utilities for MSDOS
	MKS awk, lex, yacc
	MKS toolkit (vi, tar, alias, etc.)
	MKS RCS Revision control system

i don't have their phone but you can orthem through
	Programmer's Connection
	Tel. (800) 336-1166 or
	Fax. (216) 494-5260

enjoy,


Tony T. Luu

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From: ggvvgg@mixcom.com (Dave Fenske)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: End-of-file
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:20:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Aug29.132040.10587
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

I have heard there is a DOS utility available (somewhere) that appends
an end-of-file (^Z) to any file that is closed without having one.

I am in urgent need of such a utility.  It would be used for properly
terminating a plot file which is being sent across a Lan Man X network.  Which
plot file, BTW, never makes it because Lan Man thinks it doesn't end.

Any names, phone numbers or leads would be greatly appreciated.

DF
From: ccaajmf@ucl.ac.uk (John Franks)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: network time protocol under DOS ?
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:02:17 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

The title says it all; does anybody know of a pd program to synchronise a
PC's clock with the rest of the world?


John Franks, ccaajmf@ucl.ac.uk or jmf14@phx.cam.ac.uk to readers in Cambridge.
     "And a thousand slimy things
      Lived on; and so did I."
From: rick.guthier@cccbbs.UUCP (Rick Guthier) 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.msdos
Subject: DROP
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:19:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: rick.guthier@cccbbs.UUCP (Rick Guthier) 

                                                                                                                                
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Calling longjmp() from signal handler: portable?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:24:23 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

In working on Smail 3, I've found that I need to interrupt a blocking
system call (a kernel locking primitive, to be precise).  Ron Karr
seems to think that calling longjmp() from a signal handler will work
with all known versions of UNIX, not just with BSD as I assumed.

Is Ron right that longjmp() always works from signal handlers?  Or am
I correct that, for example, SCO Xenix sets up a separate stack frame
for signal handlers, so longjmp() won't work correctly?

Perspiring minds want to know!
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
   "Do Rush place weird subliminal backmasked messages in their songs to
 compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
From: tasos@cs.bu.edu (Anastasios Kotsikonas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: nonblocking socket
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:45:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: tasos@cs


Hi all,
assuming that a reader process reads from a nonblocking socket, how
can it know that the other end has close()'d?

Thanks,

Tasos
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From: kudva@ecn.purdue.edu (Gautham K. Kudva)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Sun LWP bug? Help!!
Keywords: LWP, threads
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:56:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Hi,

I'm trying to use Sun's LWP threads and I've run across something
that may be a bug in the package. After spending half a dozen
frustating hours, I decided to get some feedback from the net 
before spending any sleepless nights. Here's what happened:

I first copied the sleep server example given in the LWP tutorial.
This server has a communication thread that listens on a port, and
whenever a client contacts it, starts off a new thread. The client
gives it a timeout value and the newly created thread sleeps for that
amount of time. The thread that listens on the port runs at a higher
priority than the sleeper threads, so it uses non-blocking versions of
the socket calls from libnbio.a.  The tutorial example uses the
connectionless UDP protocol and this worked fine. Then I tried to
implement a socket-stream version where the client and server talk on
an established connection. This required me to use the accept call on
the server side to establish the connection.  Whenever execution
reaches the accept call, the server dumps core. Purify shows me that
the error is due to a read attempt on location 0x0 within the accept
call.

Has anyone else come across the same problem? Is there are workaround?
The version of LWP I have appears to be about 2 years old. Have new
versions of the package come out since then that fix the problem?
Any help or suggestions are appreciated. I can send the source code of
my program to anyone who's interested.

Please post or email me at kudva@ecn.purdue.edu

Thanks very much in advance,
Gautham Kudva
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
From: hartnett@glas.rtsg.mot.com (Ger Hartnett)
Subject: calling system() with SIGCLD ignored (SysV).
Organization: Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Div., Cork, Ireland.
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:41:37 GMT


Hi there,

Apologies if this is a previously discussed topic.

I have a few questions about the interactions between the system() and
ignoring the SIGCLD signal under SYS V.

I need to spawn off processes and not allow them to become zombie when
finished. I also need to make calls to the system() function in the
parent process.

I have set up a simple test program which sets SIGCLD to be ignored,
forks a child process and then calls system(). The system() call
hangs in wait(). It does exit with ECHILD when the system call
finishes but will not do this if other children have been started and
not yet exited.

I then set up a signal handler for SIGCLD which just calls wait. This
also ensured the spawned processes do not go zombie but the system()
function call exits with errno set to EINTR (when the command
submitted has been executed). Re-submitting the system() call executes
the complete command again.

I can't spawn off daemons (setpgrp and double fork) as I need the
spawned processes to stop when the terminal logs out.

So I really haven't found a satisfactory solution. What I really need
to know is if this is a catch 22 situation. Is there any better way of
doing what I need to do.

(I am using Tandem NonStop-UX rA21 and UNIX System V/88 Release
R32V2).

Thanks,
gerH.

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From: ccechk@nuscc.nus.sg (Heng Kek)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
Subject: RCS 5.6 installation blues
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:17:54 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore

Greetings,

I've been trying to install RCS(5.6) on my system.  I don't have root
access, so I'm first installing it in the /tmp directory.  I can't
seem to make conf.h successfully.  The following are excerpts from
the conf.error file:

ccom: Error: a.c, line 3: syntax error
      	static enum Boolean const zero;
      --------------------------^
ccom: Error: a.c, line 6: aazero undefined
      	int main() {  return !!**aazero ; }
      ----------------------------------^
ccom: Error: a.c, line 3: syntax error
      	static enum Boolean volatile zero;
      -----------------------------^
ccom: Error: a.c, line 2: syntax error
      ssize_t x;
      --------^

Has anyone out there successfully installed RCS 5.6 on Ultrix 4.2
(rev 96)?  I've read the README file but can't find anything in it
to help resolve the problem.  It seems to me that the 'cc' is a bit
wonky.

Thanks for any advise.

Heng Kek
National Uni of S'pore
Newsgroups: comp.unix.programmer
From: mark@homebase.vistachrome.com (Mark Alexander)
Subject: transport interface 
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:55:13 GMT

Using the UNIX system Transport service interface, could I write
a program that would connect with a generic remote ftp server?
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From: liebe@rs4.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (Andreas Liebe)
Subject: How to obtain peername in Telnet/Rlogin-Application
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:51:48 GMT
Reply-To: liebe@hrz.th-darmstadt.de
Organization: TU Darmstadt

Hi,

 I have an application which is started directly after /bin/login by an
 entry in /etc/passwd similar to

myuser::100:100:Some Text:/u/myapp:/u/myapp/bin/myprog

 The application can be used by everyone (no password), but I want to
 write a logfile where we can see where the conection came from.
 Due to the fact, that 'myprog' was started by /bin/login and not
 by the inetd I can't use 'getpeername'.
 I might get the info out of /etc/utmp, but the host-entry is only
 16 bytes long - not enough for most domainnames.

 Is there a way to obtain the complete domainname or the IP-address ?

Thanks in advance

   Andreas
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