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From: wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Yan Xing and Qi Gong, Is It Science?
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:05:08 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In <C09JF9.Bvr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:


>Yan Xing gave a Qi Gong lecture in Indianapolis today. It last
>about four and half hours. In summery of his speech, I have following
>doubt.

>Yan Xing claimed that his Qi Gong could change the structure
>of molecule of water by remote "Qi".

>Yan Xing claimed that his Qi Gong could change the nuclear
>structure more effective than accelerator.

>Yan Xing told the audience that the man beside him had not
>eaten anything except water for more than a year.

>Yan Xing cited his support from famous physicists such as
>Zhao Zhongyao, C.N. Yang (who is the fellow of American
>Science Academy) and of course Qian Xuesheng.

>Yan Xing cited that one Chairman at UC San Diego, who did not
>believe him was convince by his experiment. Who is this Chairman?

>Could Yan Xing's Qi Gong help to make cold nuclear fusion :-).

Did he say he could make cold nuclear fusion at superconducting condition?

>His talk sounded mysterious. But is science mysterious? If
>Yan Xing were a scientist, what scientist could he be?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen)
Subject: Re: answer to "math problem"
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 05:13:51 GMT

yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:

[......]
>
>I think the method initiated by Zuo Ziqi and modified by another guy
>(sorry, I cann't remember his name) is the best. I don't think
>many people in the netter know the so-called Harriot-Descates rule.
>
>Ze Yang
>
The Descartes rule of sign is a special case of the Budan Theorem.  To
state it is quite simple (see, e.g., The Int. Dictionary of Applied
Maths, D.Van Nostrand Co., p225).  The following is based on the same
reference :
  The number of positive real roots of a polynomial equation f(x)=0 is 
  equal to the number of changes of sign in the sequence of the 
  coefficients (from high order to low order) or is less by an even 
  number. ..... [rule on negative real roots deleted]

Doesn't hurt to learn a bit more each day, does it?

Regards,

Daniel (yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
From: kzhang@cisco.com (Kui Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: NTSC->PAL conversion info needed
Keywords: video, convert, help
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:18:27 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated
NNTP-Posting-Host: stout.cisco.com

Hi,there,

I remember seeing a posting about a video format conversion service.

Could anyone repost it ?


Many Thanks !




.kui
From: jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: help
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:51:54 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College

I am looking for a friend of mine, JIANG YI.  Mr. Jiang Yi, a graduate of
Huazhong (Central China) Normal University in Wuhan, went to Goldsmith College
of Education, University of London, England in 1988.  Since our last contact in
December 1988, I have been trying to get in touch with him again.  If anyone
out there can help, please send me a message.  Your help would be greatly
appreciated.


Jay Feng   
(614) 826-4008
jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: 90908648@bradford.ac.uk
Subject: test
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:02:20 GMT

Huang He! Huang He! 
This is Chang Jiang! This is Chang Jiang!
Please respond! Please respond!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiaog@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Xiao Qiang)
Subject: Shizhenliang
Originator: xiaog@secfs
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: vuse
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:58:56 GMT

Please call me at 615-269-7584 or 615-322-2739 (work) if
someone has information about Mr. Shi.

Thanks

Xiao, Qiang
From: jxl43@po.CWRU.Edu (Jianfeng Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: chinese manifest destiny
Date: 30 Dec 1992 23:38:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jxl43@po.CWRU.Edu (Jianfeng Li)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, micky.wong@canrem.com ("micky wong") says:

>Joseph Needham is a remarkable scholar who spent his lifetime to study
>the history of Chinese Science and technology, but what he said about
>the Chinese lead in technology during that period does not equate to
>"super power".
......
>I don't know which Ah-Q invented this above rhetoric, ......

From time to time,I wondered what make up the main reason for a country which
could be revitalized.People seem to agree on that the quality of the population
will decide the future of the country.
But, how can one measure the quality?
We used to talk about how important the knowledge is. What can be defined as
a constituent part of the so called knowledge? A country can quickly get
enough people be qualified as scientists,engineers,doctors etc. And the 
country can become a muscular giant within less than a century.But ,one does
not have to wait for long to witness the process in which the giant collapse.
 Then how about the ethics of a country? I would rather call it the feeling 
or the spirit of the country.For a country, GNP could incresaed by hard 
working,more schools could be built,etc. All these could be done in a person's
life time.But a country's spirit cannot be changed that much.To judge that 
what kind of ethics will put its owner in a superior position in a long run,
I shall look at the environment of the soul of the people.If, up there, the
soul is free, those people will have a brighter future.
Chinese happen to be lucky. Chinese believe in that every one can atain the
highest dignity. We do not need a supernatural force to force us behave.
Of course , many opposite facts can be pointed out. But I think the roots
of those are not that deep.They will be removed.
I think chinese as a whole has been suffering for the past 500 years or so.
My measurement is not just confined into looking the muscle.I am saying we
chinese almost stopped to put energy on enriching our soul. We have done
very little to approach to maturity, if we did any at all.
I do pay my respect to the one who labeled some chinese as near hopeless.It
is because of that he just wished his overdose medicine could solve our
problems, he does believe in that things will become better.
To China ,harsh push has no positive effect. Now ,China is moving towards the
right direction. No one can stop that, although, along the way to the 
prosperity, certain unpleasant events might take place.

A person should and must believe in himself.Only so life can be ejoyable.

/A chinese on his way to become a true physicist/ 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.japan
From: cliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (chang hsu liu)
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 09:19:50 GMT

n@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM wrote:
Many postings stated that the current Japanese speaking language has
many similarity with Cantonese, the Min-nan. Because all of these
were considered as ancient Chinese languages, or dialects, those were
spoken in central China.

An anthropologist told me that the pronunciation of numbers: 1 to ten in
Amoy (Linguistic term for Min-nan or Taiwanese), Cantonese, Mandarin of
Chinese, Burmese, Japanese, and Tibetan bears some resemblance. I'd take
a wild guess here. This could be a proof that these people had close
relationships in ancient times. It doesn't necessarily mena which people
were originated from the other people, but they might be very close.
Numbers probably were the first necessary term for commerse or
interaction
between people in ancient times. If people of different places pronounce
numbers very similarly (now, maybe the same in ancient times), it may
mean they were from the same family, or one people adopted the
pronunciation of another people since the system was not developed
during the interaction. Has anyone read anything on this matter? Anyone
studies the pronunciation of numbers in Asian countries, please confirm
if they are really similar.


Liu, Chang-Hsu

originated from the other people, but they wer
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: [news] fan3 gong4 yi4 shi4
Date: 2 Jan 93 17:52:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.1324
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>: Zuo2 chang2ren2, Jiang1 Hong2jun1, Si1 xiao3ling2, got death penalty in
>: Taibei Dec 29, 1992.  Kind of ironic, isn't it?
>
>Please forgive my ignorance but what is the charge?

They committed a murder crime.

-- 
Want to write in Chinese on PC?  Get dngdng12.zip from 130.49.2.61 in
directory /pub/incoming.  With it, you can post in Chinese too.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: sosc1054@wc03.writer.yorku.ca (Sheldon Liu)
Subject: racism
Organization: York University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:56:24 GMT
From: wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Date: 3 Jan 93 23:13:54 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: Qi Gong

In <C0AKJE.435@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:

>In article <1i7bdpINN9rp@crcnis1.unl.edu> tchen@hoss.unl.edu (tianan chen) writes:
>>     I really hope someone can tell me the truth of Qi Gong.
>>     .ek
>Radio Bejing onece reported a "Qi Gong" master can lift, or bring down a
>person without any physical contact. I rather keet skeptism and mentain
>curosity on this matter. If "Qi Gong" work so magically, Chinese, not
>Westeners should have dominate the World. I hope the deal not become a
>laughstork.
>

How many of you still remember the Qi Gong practice on the Chinese 
new year party sponsed by CCTV?  It was turned out being a scandel.

Yan xin's qing gong has been discussed on this net for couple of
times.  I remember on netter said that when Yan was asked about
the scientic proof aobut his claims (molecule change of the water
he qi'ed), he was rather angry.  These proof does not need very
sofiscated equipement.  Almost ervey Unitversity can do it.  
Why did not he do it to support his claim?  This kind of data
is more convincing than mentioning some big names.  Isn't it clear?
Yan Xin is not a stupid.  He has a university degre. 
He sure knows how to use moden equipment
to support his claim.  The problem is that the result is negtive 
to his claims.  

I once talked to a guy, a qinggong master from the medical college
where Yan Xin used to study.  His comments about Yan's talk is
'I WON'T SAY HE WAS A LIER BUT THAT WAS EXAGGERATED.' 


F. Wang
From: huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: What will you do if you go back China?
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:30:11 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

In article <BzGqr5.Eu3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (positron) writes: 
> I agree with you in that this is a good opportunity to become rich.
> My plan is to go to find a job in or near Hong Kong and wait for
> 1997.  When 1997 comes the real estate and stock market in 
> Hong Kong will probably collapse.  I will be ready to purchase
> tons of stock and prime real estate property at that time at
> rock bottom prices from the spineless Chinese traitors who are
> about to become refugees in a foreign land.

     At the time I came to Australia, HongKong was argueing that 
they wanted Aussie to allow them to build a New HongKong in Darwin. 
I told my family that I would try to buy some real estate there, 
waiting HongKong people pour in around 1997. HK did rush into 
Australia, so did Taiwanese. Real estate price in major cities were 
pumped up by these immigrants and investors, local people just could 
not afford it. The government put new policy in. Now only citizens 
and PRs are allowed to buy houses. Chances come, but only once. 
    HongKong's and Taiwan's economy is just not as strong as Japan's.
Japanese have nearly buy a whole area near Cairns (a city supported
by tourism). In this area, tens of thousands Japs live in their own
way: no English, you must speak Japanese; you can't use Aussie $, you
must use Japanese Yuan. HK maybe can do it in Darwin in future if 
necessary. I am sure HK will make some people fortunes during its 
transfer, but question is: how to position yourself to get benefit.  
    Buying cheap, selling dear is a golden rule for business. What 
is cheap? Something in China! And what is dear? Your visa and green
card! When a market by its full meaning is established in China, we
will see what you should pursue now.      
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu)
Subject: Life in this United States of America (2)
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:39:08 GMT


Applying for credit cards is the thing that every student
must experience either in college or after college.  But
do you know that when you send out an application and
give out your information, there are a lot of other people
also get the information.  They will use that to do some
mail marketing or telemarketing.  If you are denied a
credit card application, more calls and post cards will
come.  If you don't know much, you are probably going to
be ripped off by those people.

I applied credit card before and was denied many times.
Some times because I am not a permanent resident or some
times because I don't have credit.  Then there are some
people, they must have purchased my personal information
from those credit card issuers, called me and sent me
post cards saying that I would be automatically able to
get some credit cards if I send them $50 more or less
"application fee".  I did not respond to any post cards.
I did get some telephone calls and I talked to a few of
them.  I remember I talked to a person, she first
congratulated me that I was already selected by them to
give me a credit card.  And she asked me to promise that
I will send them $50 application fee and in the mean
time they will send me the credit card.  Sounded very
good!  But I insisted them to send me the credit card
first and then I will pay the money, most credit card
issuers will send you card first and then bill you!
She said she can gurantee that I would get the card.
But I still insisted.  She then transfered me to a man
who claimed to be her boss.  And he told me that's the
way they do bussiness and he can't send me the card
first.  I told him that if I don't get the card, I
will not send money.  Then the conversation ended.

Americans can not get away with this kind of things.
Some people did send money and they got some credit
cards that can just purchase designated merchandise.
Or they did not get cards at all.  Some people have
to spend hundreds of dollars telephone calls to get
the application fee back.

If you apply for credit cards and being denied, don't
worry.  Just keep applying and you will get one some
time.  If some body call you that you are prequalified,
don't believe them, no matter how sound the claim is.
Serious bussinesses don't do that kind of thing.


-- 
Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu
From: cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Date: 30 Dec 1992 13:21:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec29.203145.13153@topaz.ucq.edu.au> you write:
|> 1. About one week ago, Chinese government ordered the French consulate in
|>    Guangzhou to be closed, responding France selling 50 fighters to Taiwan.
|>           
|>       -- I thought:"Right! But no enough!"
|> 
|>    Today I learned that Guangzhou mayor Li Ziliu had told the French that 
|>    they would not been offered a chance to take the contract of $billions
|>    Guangzhou subway project, according to instructions from CG.
|> 
|>       -- I feel better now.

Chinese leaders have tried for some time to bring foreign investments to 
China. They have also tried to appease the people in Hong Kong (Xiang
Gang) by proclaiming their attachment to economic freedom in that region 
(with Guang Dong Sheng as an example). But at the first chance they get, 
they interfere with business matters just to follow some old and obsolete 
policies. One has to wonder, do you still feel good? Oh I also forgot,
Franco-Chinese trade shows a $2 billion/year deficit... in favor of
China... Should France save that  $2 billion/year? I don't think so...
Anyway since it's that time of year, I wish all a happy New Year,
zhu4 da3jia1 xin1nian2 yu2kuai4, bonne nouvelle annee!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: sosc1069@wc19.yorku.ca (Ming He)
Subject: Re: We Taiwanese have won this general election..
Organization: /writer/sosc/sosc1069/.organization
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:48:11 GMT

### "RP" == Robert Pan <IO11043@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

RP> In article <23DEC92.11381544@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw>, u333057@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw
RP> says:
>choices.
>    We Taiwanese have told all over the world that we could have good real
>democracy on our own.We have the newest congress,& we'll chose our own
>presiden
>t by our own.
>    When will you Chinese chose your own government by your own?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Note here.  He is a TIer.  He said YOU CHINESE instead of YOU
MAINLANDERS.  He does not think he is Chinese.  But he use Chinese
language as his mother tongue and also writing in Chinese.

I'm always wondering why TIers don't think them Chinese.

-- ming

RP> I guess, five years later, DPP might be the winner in the first free
RP> election in China if she keeps current momentum.
RP> ===================================
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From: li@padeds.uucp (Weigang Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test msg, pls ignore
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:04:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Dec31.200407.18648
Organization: Division of Applied Sciences, Harvard University


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|   WEIGANG   LI                                 |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Yan Xing and Qi Gong, Is It Science?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 18:30:58 GMT

In article <X5b=V-+@engin.umich.edu> chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
>
>Yan Xing came to Ann Arbor to give a Qi Gong lecture last year.
>I attended his lecture. During his lecture, I followed his instruction
>and, after 30 minites, my arms keep shaking and I can not control
>my arm. When I went to restroom and left the lecture hall, the
>Qi Gong effect disappears. I also saw many people lost their control
>and laugh or cry. From my personal experience, Yan Xing's Qi Gong
>is a real thing although I do not understand it. Probably, it is 
>something beyong today's science.

I am sure your arm shaking has a biological explanation as a kind of
muscle fatigue :-). Ancient people considered rain as the will of
dragon. I also noticed that some people in the room had crazy movements.
I had video record of some of them. But I also noticed that these people
did not come from local area, instead they all came from remote
places. I suspect it is a kind of political society. Because Yan
Xing seemed to know all of them. It would be interesting if some
people who had recorded Yan Xing's lecture elsewhere compare with
each other and see if these laughing and crying people all have the
same faces.

Yan Xing spent first four hours bragging. Nothing scientific and
nothing could be considered as scientific report. No data, no
graphics, no explanation. It was a political report. It recalls me
the report of Mr. Li Yanjie and Mr. Qu Xiao, only in a different
format.

I am sure many Chinese people are crazy about Qi Gong and Yan Xing.
Chinese have been crazy for many idiological things during the last
few decades. To name a few: the water drinking movement (one drinks
three bowl of water in the morning and can heal every desease),
the magical "red tea" (hong2 cha2 jun3), the throwing hand movement
(shuai3 shou3 cao1) and so on. Not to mention the political craziness
of Mao's time and thereafter.

>He made some strong claims about remote control on nuclear decay,
>molecular reactions. From my limited knowledge, I do not believe
>it. However, I only can say it has not been proven to me. I do
>not want to say it is not true or anything else. If I did not
>go to Yan Xing's lecture, I would not believe that he can make
>my arm shaking beyong my control.

I respect people's sincere believe of religion even I myself
don't believe them (because I was trained and educated in this
way). But don't claim it as science. Science has its integrity.
Science is not popularity, prestige or person. Science is a
continuing human understanding. Scientist may suffer political,
religious persecution, but he is honest. He never, ever brags!

>J Chen
>Department of Chemistry
>University of Michigan

I am sure you know how chemists discovered H2O. How it is made.
How much binding energy among these atoms. Otherwise how could 
yourself believe your papers are scientifically publishable?
From: lpzhou@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: [news] Australian Satellite Lost
Date: 24 Dec 92 11:31:23 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <1992Dec22.095403.6060@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, yidao@cae.wisc.edu (Yidao Cai) writ
> 
> As far as I know, the Chinese side is responsible for sending it to the lower
> orbit and give parameters of the orbit to the US side.  This usually finishes
> several hours after the launching.  So it is more likely the US's fault if 
> the report were real.  I would interpret "lost" could not be controlled here,
> since the Chinese are not responsible for controlling it, it is less likely 
> their fault.  It's bad news anyway.


Australian ground station so far still can not pick up at signal from the 
stallite and they will mornitor it for another few days over X-mas break.

The relaunch may take two years time.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: roten@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten)
Subject: Re: What happened to the Long March?
Organization: /cuba_b/dirbe/roten/.organization
X-Newsreader: GNU Emacs 18.57.1, GNUS 3.13, NNTP 3.10
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:48:20 GMT

In article <BzxqK6.A66@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> 
achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ah_Q) writes:

>I suspect sabotage from the U.S side to make the
>Chinese space industry lose international credibility
>so that future satilite lauching contracts will go
>to NASA.

>The biased news media coverage on by the U.S. news
>media only strengthens my suspicions.

>Satilite launchings are a multi-billion dollar industry.
>Any country that can capture a significant share of this
>market would be able to self finance its space industry.

Uhh .. maybe this should have been crossposted to 
soc.culture.conspiracy.theories.  :->  

Look, folks, I have been _working_ at a NASA facility for the last three 
years now.  And if the jokers in charge of _my_ site even _thought_ about 
playing such games, it would be all over the Washington Post (in BIIIIG 
type :-) before the second planning meeting.  NASA is a big, 
decentralized, chaotic bureaucracy.  In such an environment, the half-life 
of a political secret (and thus, of any conspiracy) can be measured in 
fewer milliseconds than I have fingers.  And I have the normal number, I 
assure you.  :-)  In a place like this, any real conspiracy LEAKS, like a 
machine-gunned water tower.  

--
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