From: You know, that guy@Purdue
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: What A Shame, Stan
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:06:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr16.025633.7100@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> stank@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Stan Krieger) writes:
>>Replace homosexual with left handed and athiest with Jewish and see how your
>>arguments sound. At one time people actually believed that there was something
>>wrong with being left handed, why are you unable to see through your own brain
>>washing, do you truly believe that someone is inferior just because they have
>>a preference for the same sex?
>
>There are several problems and issues here which make these comparisons
>meaningless.  A deviant sexual lifestyle is something a person can
>control, unlike the stronger hand, so comparing the two is meaningless.
>The issue also is clearly whether a man who loves another man is a proper
>role model for 11-17 year old boys; very simply, no way!  Even if it
>is "normal" behavior, it's still not a proper role model.  

I guess we should kick all the smokers out of the BSA right now. It, after
all, is a behavior we all know they can easily control. And I sure as hell
wouldn't want a smoker as a role model. Wouldn't you agree, even if they
don't smoke around the Scouts, the Scouts would still know that their
Scoutmaster smoked? 

Actually, left-handed people can "learn" to be right-handed, too.
They just won't be as comfortable the rest of us. That's ok. No
problem. They just have to make a few sacrifices so that they
fit in with the rest of society. No price is too small to pay
for a nice, conformist society.

>A comparison of religion to atheism is also on different levels.  At
>least in the case of Judaism, I'm a Jew because my mother is a Jew.
>No matter what I personally believe, as far as the Jewish community
>is concerned, I'm a life member.  Atheism is a voluntary choice,
>and a choice that I don't have (and I'm sure a choice a lot of
>other people really don't have either, as they already accepted
>a religion while still dependent children).

I accepted a VERY loose religious concept as a child, too. Can I 
still join? It obvoiusly wan't my choice.

Hey Stan - you could always "repent" and become a good little
Christian, too. Just think, you could be a reformed Jew who's
controlled his Jewish tendencies enough to be a Christian. Seeing
as how it's obviously genetic.

>The attacks on BSA are simply whether a religious belief and proper
>moral behavior are correct, and preferred, attitudes that pre-teens
>and teens should be taught and expected to follow.  I can only repeat
>what I posted a few weeks ago-  I think we, as a society, would be a
>heck of a lot better off if we promoted such values instead of
>fighting them.  It's the immoral behavior, such as deviant sex,
>non-monogamous sex, drugs, and lack of religious values that is doing
>a number on our society now. 

None of the homosexuals I know push drugs on small children, or try
to "induct" them into a world of free sex with whatever moves, or
tries to turn them to Satan worship or gratuitious violence.
I think the BSA should teach other values, too. Like tolerance. Or,
remember that Scout Law? Friendly, courteous, kind? Remember those?
There's three times as many of those laws as "Reverent".

I take it you're voting for Pat Buchanan this year, too.

Thomas Cronin
Eagle Scout

cronin@en.ecn.purdue.edu