From: nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik)
Subject: Re: Voting on the Ahmadiyya Newgroup
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:46:14 GMT

nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik) writes:
: rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) writes:
: : In article <1992Nov14.024750.3261@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>, rached@blanc.eng.ohio-state.edu (rached) writes:
: : > Hi
: : > 
: : > I am completely confused. This morning I read about the CFV for SRIA and
: : > sent my vote to the specified address. Then now I read that the votes
: : > should be sent to somwhere else. I think this is a very bad way to
: : > conduct a voting and therefore I move to call for an annulation of both
: : > votes and a postponment to the voting period to a time where it is
: : > clear where the votes must go and how the voting should be done.
: : 
: : I am not mystified but troubled. In the period of time I have been on the net
: : and for the first time since we had news.announce.newgroups this is the first
: : time I have ever seen this happen. For the sake of preventing another even more
: : violent flame war over this vote may I suggest that the CFV for the group be
: : canceled now and a disinterested third party volunteer to take the votes. I
: : can already see that regardless of how the vote goes; if either a proponent or
: : opponent of the group collects the vote, there will probably be claims of 
: : improprieties in the vote. Let's head them off as much as possible and not 
: : repeat the fiascos such as the sf-lovers reorg or soc.culture,indian.american
: : 
: : 
: : -- 
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: 
: I have talked to most Ahmadis on e-mail, and we are all very disturbed by this
: latest episode. One M. Jaffrey somehow was given "authority" unoficially and
: unilaterally by a Moderator of Soc.religion.islam to issue a CFV for the proposed
: s.r.i.ahmadiyya newsgroup. This is a most extraordinary move since of all people
: the moderator, one Balasat Ali has been aware that our moderator, Nabeel Rana
: was to be the one to  call for votes. This is clear since a previous CFV by
: Nabeel a week or two was cancelled. So the Ali and Jaffrey cannot claim any 
: sort of ignorance on this issue.
: 
: 
: So one is left to speculate on their motivation for making an un-offocial CFV. some 
: of the things that are disturbing us most is that (1) it may confuse many people so 
: that they may end up wasting their votes either by sending to the wrong address or
: simply getting fed up of it all; (2) the knowledge that the oppposing Muslims
: gain from who is voting YES for the s.r.i.a. may be used to canvass or even
: intimadate these people privately to vote NO.
: 
: Since this is quite unprecedented, I am strongly in favour of cancelling the present
: CFV and waiting about a week or two before proceding. In the meantime, is it possible
: that the opposing camp should be penalised for their very obvious deception. I
: feel that strong and decisive action must be taken otherwise it may encourage them
: to other follys later on.
: 
: Nadeem Malik
: nadeem@p.igp.ethz.ch



p.s. I have just read a post by Jaffrey on Soc.culture.pakistan that he intends to
continue collecting votes and that he has collected 200 votes so far.