From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys?
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:57:59 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <exujeff.18.712008376@exu.ericsson.se> exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.191734.14014@aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
>>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
>>Path: exucom.exu.ericsson.se!ericom!sunic!mcsun!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero.org!mas
>>From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
>>Subject: Re: Cowboys?
>>Message-ID: <1992Jul24.191734.14014@aero.org>
>>Sender: news@aero.org
>>Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
>>References: <BrBIDy.43t@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1992Jul22.202921.4164@makesys.com> <exujeff.9.711999916@exu.ericsson.se>
>>Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:17:34 GMT
>>Lines: 30
>
>>In article <exujeff.9.711999916@exu.ericsson.se> exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson) writes:
>>>> Being a Dallas transplant I can see why you would have that feeling.
>>>> My feeling is that Troy is another Danny White, another Tommy Kramer,	
>>>> He can't get the job done....
>>>> The same can be said for Elway, but at least he got there.
>>>just a theory.
>>>Any Vikings news?
>>>
>>Another Danny White??
>
>>I will assume you meant that with a negative connotation.  Let me give
>>you some info on Danny White:
>
>>1) He led an aging Dallas Team to 3 straight NFC championship games.
>>Granted, he didn't get one win, but the team has to take some
>>responsibility.  If Troy can do anything approaching this, I will be
>>more than a happy Cowboys fan.
>
>>2) He had a higher QB rating (career) than Roger Staubach, and was the
>>NFL's highest career rated passer (with enough attempts) until the
>>advent of Marino and more importantly Joe Montana.  His rating still
>>gets him into the top 15, and maybe even the top ten best of all time.
>>Say what you will about ratings and their validity, but they do show
>>SOME sense of accomplishment.  Troy will do well to post those kinds
>>of numbers.

Well actually, by the time he retired and lived through several lean years 
in Cowboyland, Danny had dropped to just below Roger on the alltime passing 
list. Roger retired as numero uno alltime in the ratings ... Danny took over 
the lead for a while (inheriting BJ Dupree, and later Cosbie, Drew, Tony D., 
Tony Hill and CO. didn't hurt him here) ... Danny only lead an aging DEFENSIVE
Cowboy team... the offense was one of the most potent in league history. Witness
that they regular won offensive shootouts with the great San Diego clubs and 
the highly explosive Green Bay teams. And who could forget that they slugged 
it out with San Fran right down to the last drop in '81.  Don't gimme this 
he lead an aging team crap. Tony D. was a third year man when he took over. 
Drew was in his fith, Hill in his fourth, Cosbie was new, the O-line was 
freakin GREAT!!! Golden Richards and Butch Johnson gave him great backup 
receivers.. Sorry, Danny will get no votes from me on this one. 

>>*ice*
>
>you are very precise on your numbers, but who did the BOYS have to go 
>through to get to those NFC championship games?  I beleive that FRAN and 
>ROGER would have been in the SUPER B's that Tommy and Danny were on the 
>doorstep of.

I wholeheartedly agree  ... Roget' the Dodget' and Sir Francis found ways to 
win. Until somebody put a vastly superior team in front of them... they both
did what it took to win. Danny and Kramer and later Wilson were all losers. 
They'd always manage to throw three or four INT's in the big game. 


-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....