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From: bae@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kyung "Blah" Bae)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Guitar Equipment forsale
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:03:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Hello all, 
I have the following forsale.  I haven't seen current prices, so if a price
seems too high make me an offer.  

Digitech 2 second digital delay
$100

BOSS EQ
$50

BOSS Flanger
$65

DOD Chorus
$35

I also have a DOD power supply.  This will power five DOD pedals.
$10

Send me offers.  Price does not include shipping (I imaging it would only
be a couple of dollars).

Kyung
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rfries@sceng.ub.com (Robert Fries)
Subject: Re: Nut loose on Ovation
Organization: Ungermann Bass
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:34:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.143715.19073@husc3.harvard.edu> winer@husc9.Harvard.EDU (Adam Winer) writes:

>The nut on my Ovation is completely loose.  String tension is
>enough to keep it from dropping off, but it moves around,
>throwing the guitar completely out of tune.  I was thinking
>of just using a couple drops of Krazy Glue to keep it in
>place, but I wasn't sure if this was a bad idea or not.


That's what I'd do. Don't use too much, just 2 - 3 drops, so future removal 
of the nut for repair won't be too difficult.

From what I've read, CA glues (e.g. Krazy Glue) are heavily used
by guitar repairpersons these days.

Robert

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Ungermann-Bass Inc.

DISCLAIMER:
    Opinions contained herein are my own, and are not necessarily those
    of Ungermann-Bass.
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From: frankc@tgf.tc.faa.gov (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Tuning Trouble
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:35:58 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ
NNTP-Posting-Host: offserv2.faa.gov

bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bill Thomas) writes:


>This just drives me nuts. I've been playing guitar for several years
>(though I just recently picked it up again) and I've had this recurring
>problem with tuning. I seem to have the strings properly tuned, but then
>the chords sound like fecal matter. I'm using a pitch pipe as a
>reference point.

If your open strings are in tune but your chords are out of tune, you
need to adjust the intonation of your bridge.

To do this, fret a string at the 12th fret, then pluck the overtone at
the 12th fret.  If the overtone is flat or sharp, the saddle for that
string needs to be moved until the pitch of the notes are equal.

>What's the best method for tuning? Pitch pipe? Pitch fork? How 'bout
>those electronic tuners?

Door number 3.


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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Jim)
Subject: Re: Lesson of the Week
Reply-To: etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:33:54 GMT

Not a bad idea but there's only so much you can do via text.  There's no
substitute for hands-on teaching!  It's difficult to see what you're doing
wrong when you *think* you're following the written instructions correctly.

Jim.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: kamartin@quads.uchicago.edu (Kai Anthony Martin)
Subject: Advice needed for 1st audition
Followup-To: kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu
Summary: I have my first band audition friday, and I'm pretty nervous.
Reply-To: kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:03:53 GMT

Hello fellow guitarists,

	I have my first ever band audition on friday, and I'm really nervous 
about it.  I've got to learn "Comfortably Numb" for it, along with playing some
improv.  Not only is this my first audition, but it's also my first real
situation in which I'll be playing with a live person.  Are there any seasoned
veterans out there who could give this rookie some advice?  Thanks a lot.

-Kai Martin (kamartin@midway.uchicago.edu)



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            Undergraduate student, Mathematics & Computer Science
From: ian@ohm.york.ac.uk (I Stephenson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: aging strings - is there a way to recycle
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:27:23 GMT
Reply-To: ian@ohm.york.ac.uk
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In article <63134@mimsy.umd.edu> lhcompt@cs.umd.edu (Lawrence H. Compton)  
writes:
> >>>Q: Strings age and need to be replaced. Ist there a way to squeeze more  
life
> >>>   out of them ? It seems such a waste to throw them away.
> 
> Diluted window cleaner seems to work OK!! Somebody mentioned that EVH
> boils his strings. I've also heard that John McLaughlin does the same
> (but with nylon classical guitar strings). Overall cleanliness is your
> best bet. Wash your hands before playing. Wash/wipe your strings after
> playing. Also, keep your fingerboard and frets clean. Strings get dirty
> on the bottom too. Boiling strings seems perverse, but if you do it,
> let everyone know if it works!!!
> 

Boiling does work!
I heard of it years ago, and figured it was a bit daft. However recently I  
actually tried it on a set of bass strings (it tends to be a bas player thing,  
as bass strings are more expensive and go dull rather than snapping as guitar  
strings do). The result was a definite improvement - I got back some of the  
bright ping that you get with new strings. Not as good as new strings, and it  
doesn't last as long, but definitly something there.

I probably wouldn't bother for guitar, or even for my main bass, but my  
fretless (which I don't use much) takes double ball ends, which are hard to  
get, and very expensive. I'll probably boil those again in the future.

Ian Stephenson
ian@ohm.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mathers@sibelius.trl.OZ.AU (Steven Mathers)
Subject: Which one???
Reply-To: s.mathers@trl.oz.au
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:09:02 GMT


As the owner of a bonefide el-cheapo crappy strat copy, I will probably
be buying a more expensive guitar sometime in the next couple of months.

Question:  Which guitars are good for what, and whats the difference?

Strat?  Gibson? Ibenez? Telecaster? Weird-pointy americo-jap guitar?

WHICH ONE????
From: etljmme@etlxd30.ericsson.se (Jim)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: aging strings - is there a way to recyc
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:50:56 GMT
Organization: Ericsson

Forgive me if this has already been said.  It's a bit of a
pain but very effective, especially if the guitar is to be
left alone for a long time (eg, you're off on holiday). 

Get a normal plastic bag, eg. from the supermarket, and cut
it down both sides to the base so you get a nice long rectangle.
Slide this sheet between the strings and the neck and spray the
strings lightly with a fine lubricant like WD-40.  Then, bring
round the sides of the bag and wrap around the strings.  Your
guitar can now be stored strung for a long time.  When you get
back from wherever, wipe down the strings with a cloth and away
you go ... no rust!  For less hassle, i.e. from day-to-day, I
might use a harmless cleaner like Duraglit (in the blue tin for
steel strings).  Washing my hands is not really any good because
when I'm on stage my hands sweat like buggery; giving me lovely
orange strings the next day.  Mmmm.

Jim.
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:11130 rec.music.makers.guitar:1141
From: alberto@primavera.Eng.Sun.COM (Alberto Savoia)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Recommendations for Jazz Guitar Teachers
Followup-To: poster
Date: 5 Jan 1993 20:53:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: primavera

I would appreciate recommendations for jazz guitar teachers
in the Bay Area (preferably in the South Bay.)

Thanks in advance,

		Alberto



Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.startrek.creative,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott.New)
Subject: Re: Bassman tricks???
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 18:41:34 GMT


Has anybody tried the Blackface BASSMAN modifications listed
in the new Guitar Player?  Sounds like some major re-wiring,
but the result sounds interesting.


Elliott New
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis)
Subject: Re: What is MIDI?
Organization: NASA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:58:50 GMT

Bill Thomas writes
> The term MIDI stands for Musical Instrument Digital Interface, meaning,
> of course, that it's a digital interface for a musical instrument --
> usually electronic keyboards, but guitars also. It involves a set of
> computer hardware and software that allows you to apply the digital
> processing power of a computer to an instrument. You pull the sound from
> the instrument into the computer, change it digitally, and feed it back
> through the amplification system. With keyboards, MIDI systems use the
> digital information that makes up the "sound" as a sort of raw material
> that can be shaped, theoretically, into virtually any sound (though
> that's probably overstating it a bit). I assume the same is true for an
> electric guitar with a MIDI hookup, though I've never used one.

  Hmmm... That's giving MIDI a lot more credit than it deserves, I'm afraid.   
MIDI data is primarily switching information associated with the start and end  
times of notes played on a MIDI-equipped synthesizer.  At the simplest level,  
this lets you play sounds on one synthesizer using the keyboard of another, or  
play them both in unison.  Another common MIDI application is using a sequencer  
to record, edit, and playback this switching data to multiple synths, much as  
you would build a song track-by-track on a multi-track recorder.  MIDI also  
allows you to configure a synthesizer (or any MIDI device) remotely or  
automatically.

  Guitar synths use a special pickup and adapter to convert an audio signal to  
MIDI note data, which can be used to control a synth directly or recorded by a  
sequencer.  A common result is a synth playing along with the guitar; this is  
obtained by mixing the guitar-controlled synth sound with that of the guitar's  
standard pickups.  But don't confuse this (guitar pitch to MIDI conversion)  
with actual digital sampling of the guitar sound.  This is beyond the scope of  
MIDI; the data rates just aren't high enough to support sending digital audio  
in real time.

  BTW... All of the techniques you described are commonly used, but it takes  
more than just MIDI to make them work.  Hope this helps.

Regards,

Steve
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From: mohawk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohawk Dave)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: WANTED: Effects processor
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:01:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: donald.cc.utexas.edu


If you have any type of multi-effects processor for sale, please e-mail
me.  I've been seeing a lot of posts about people selling rack-mount
units lately.  I intend to buy one soon, and the more possibilities, 
the better.

Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 1993 09:30:35 -0500 
From: Bill Thomas <bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Tuning Trouble


This just drives me nuts. I've been playing guitar for several years
(though I just recently picked it up again) and I've had this recurring
problem with tuning. I seem to have the strings properly tuned, but then
the chords sound like fecal matter. I'm using a pitch pipe as a
reference point.

Anyone out there have a foolproof way to get the guitar in tune? I don't
think it's the guitar. I've had three in my time, a Telecaster, a Yamaha
acoustic and a Charvel, and I'm always running into this tuning thing.

What's the best method for tuning? Pitch pipe? Pitch fork? How 'bout
those electronic tuners?

Xref: sparky alt.guitar:11208 alt.rock-n-roll:19775 alt.rock-n-roll.classic:725 rec.music.gdead:22897 rec.music.misc:30141
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.classic,rec.music.gdead,rec.music.misc
Subject: MAILING LIST: Rolling Stones
Date: 8 Jan 1993 14:45:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

   The Rolling Stones Mailing List -- Undercover

DO NOT MAIL REQUESTS TO THE LIST!

UNDERCOVER@SNOWHITE.CIS.UOGUELPH.CA is an unmoderated mailing list for the
discussion of the Rolling Stones. Discussion topics may include: bootleg
trading, how-to guitar playing advice, information about recent books
such as Wyman's Stone Alone and others, perspectives on recent solo
albums by Watts, Richards and Wood and the upcoming album by Jagger.
(and the rarely released "Stuff" by Wyman).

A tape tree has just been announced which should help newcomers get ahold
of some classic shows.

To be added to (or removed from) the list: 
send mail to undercover-request@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca.  Note that this
is a human (me) so requests like SUB LIST JOHN@TOADY are kind of annoying.
Please include your email address in the message. If you don't get any
messages, please get back in touch because I will drop bouncing addresses
from the list.

Steve Portigal
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: balon@cup.hp.com (Tom Balon)
Subject: Vintage Tube Amp Owners
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:38:51 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA


	Vintage tube amp owners:

	TAS *the* Tube Amp Service in Santa Clara can repair or rebuild
	your vacuum tube amp. If you have an old amp that's dear to you,
	and you use it regularly, it's important to make sure it's healthy.
	Given the increasing prices of used tube gear, keeping your amp
	in shape is important. 

	TAS can check your amp out from top to bottom and give you
	a complete report. We can repair broken amps and revitalize old
	poor sounding amps. We use only the highest quality mil-spec resistors,
	Teflon wire, poly caps etc... We offer a complete line of RUBY tubes 
	including the popular Sovtek 5881/6L6 and TESLA EL34's. We offer
	prompt service for the working musician. 

	TAS will even check and set your amps bias for FREE when you re-tube
	your amp at our Santa Clara shop. 

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From: dsschuh@sgids1.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Tracy Schuhwerk)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Electra guitar
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:34:59 GMT
Reply-To: tracy.schuhwerk@sdrc.com

In article <1993Jan11.220346.188@megatek.com>, bud@megatek.com (Wayne Francis) writes:
|> In article <93008.112227OBFP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Peter S. Andersen <OBFP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
|>>  Has anyone heard of this brand of guitar? I saw one in a local
|>> store the other day. It is a solid body with neck through the body
|>> or possibly some kind of glued on arrangement. It has two
|>> humbuckers with controls in a Les Paul kind of configuration. Any
|>> clue where this beast may have originated? 
|>   This would be a japanese made guitar.  They were imported into the US
|> by Saint Louis Music, the same company importing (or marketing , whichever 
|> is appropriate) Alvarez Yairi guitars.  Later they changed the name of 
|> their electric line to Westone.  More recently they have changed the name 
|> to Alvarez for their electric line.  
|> The electra line started out making gibson and fender copies.  Some were of
|> very high quality and some were pretty cheap.

   Just as a note...  My first guitar was an Electra "Working Man" (all black,
   solid body, two humbuckers...) and I also have an Electra MPC guitar with
   several of the effects modules (distortion, flanger, bass booster, chorus,
   and a couple of others).  To compare these guitar to, I also have a Gibson
   Les Paul "Firebrand" and an Ibanez "Radius"... Each guitar offers something
   a little unique or different so it is hard to compare, but I think the
   Electra "Working Man" held its own very well!  Maybe I'm a little nostalgic,
   with it being my first guitar, but it still gets a good share of play time!
   The MPC is probably my least favorite... the effects are sad at their best,
   and a pain to change... they are powered by a single 9 volt that gets eaten
   alive in a very short period of time!  For overall "feel", I think the
   Radius is probably my favorite guitar right now... again, it is brand new
   so I am probably a little biased!

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: acsdtd@UMASSD.EDU (All I see is green)
Subject: effects pedals wanted
Reply-To: acsdtd@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:13:32 GMT

If there is anybody in the Massachusetts, Rhode Island area that is looking
to dump off some effect pedals to get some quick cash, please contact
me at (508)992-5605.  I'm interested in pedals made by DOD, Ibanez, etc., not
something like a RP-1 board.  Thanks.  I'm most interested in Chorus, ps
flangers, delays, classic tube, fuzz, and one of those Marshall blues 
breakers would be great.  However any pedal is cool to me.  I line them all
up strap on my Les Paul and run around the house stomping on them driving
the neighbors crazy.  Well, have a good day

dan
Newsgroups: uchi.wanted,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.misc,rec.music.marketplace
From: bmdelane@quads.uchicago.edu (brian manning delaney)
Subject: Wanted: Acoustic Guitarist
Reply-To: bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: chi
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:03:23 GMT


I'm looking for guitarists to jam with. Right now I'm interested in
working on my acoustic jazz playing: some standards, but also slightly
more experimental stuff (McLaughlin perhaps, or Larry Coryell minus
the tasteless 1/64 notes...).

I'm busy with graduate school, but music is still a priority for me.
There are opportunities for a good guitar duet to play out in Chicago,
which I'd like to pursue. But if time doesn't permit that, at a
minimum I want to jam on the weekends.

I live in Hyde Park but have a car.

-Brian Delaney
bmdelane@midway.uchicago.edu 752-6021
From: napier@cs.ucsd.edu (Jim Napier)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Lesson of the Week
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:06:07 GMT
Organization: AMES Dept., UC San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sierra.ucsd.edu


In article <93007.151711WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
|> Yeah.  Cool idea.  But maybe it should be a seperate group.  I already have a
|> great guitar teacher.  I wouldn't mind dropping into a teaching forum once in a
|> while but I like a.g without a formal lesson structure overlaying the basic
|> charter.
|> 
|> Whaddya'll think?
|> 
|> Brian

I wholeheartedly support the idea of lessons over the net and I'm glad to see
a number of people volunteering their services. Brian has brought up a good
point here though. If there were simply 3 or 4 postings from teachers each week
on various topics I don't see why that couldn't be done here (although I'm
not familiar with the specifics of the charter so there may be something there
to contradict this statement). The problem will arise if net students start
flooding the newsgroup with questions about lessons, requests for reposts of
lessons, complaints or arguments about lessons, etc. If there is enough impetus
to start another newsgroup that would certainly solve the problem. But we also
might try it out in alt.guitar with a few basic rules and see how it develops.
I think one of those rules should be that any questions or comments about
lessons should be sent directly to the teacher and not posted to the group.
That will help limit the extra traffic. Just a suggestion. Further comments
are welcome. I'm quite excited about this whole idea.

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Systems Administration
Applied Mechanics & Engineering Sciences Dept.
UC San Diego
(619)534-5414
napier@ames.ucsd.edu

"Shut up before I have to tell you to shut up."
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: META <META@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Electra guitar
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:36:18 GMT

In article <93008.112227OBFP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Peter S. Andersen <OBFP@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> Has anyone heard of this brand of guitar? I saw one in a local
>store the other day. It is a solid body with neck through the body
>or possibly some kind of glued on arrangement. It has two
>humbuckers with controls in a Les Paul kind of configuration. Any
>clue where this beast may have originated?
>.
>.
There used to be a line of guitars called Electra MPC, which were, I
believe, madein the USA, and were marketed by St. Louis Music,
which, at the time, handled Crate Amps, and Alvarez-Yairi guitars
among other things.  The MPC guitars either were, or had, a line
with a set-up for installing on-board effects units, that you could
simply plug into a special connector in the guitar (via a
rear-entry) and use the on-board controls to alter the sound.  I
can't really tell if this is one of them.  In any event, the
MPC-line went heaven- ward for the same reason the Texas Instruments
Home Computer did about the same time: you had to use their stuff,
like it or not.

I never heard any comments on the playability of these instruments
simply as guitars.

Mark Hammer
From: georges.milette@synapse.org (Georges Milette) 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: MAC PROGRAM
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: georges.milette@synapse.org (Georges Milette) 

Hi to all.
        Not a long time ago, someone posted in this conference a program
that runs on the Macintosh and Was in BinHex format. Unortunately,
BINHEX files posted on my regular bbs don't work no matter how I try.
        Could the person that posted this program (i think it was
something like chordpro) just post the Internet address and where i
could get it.. Or just the exact name so I could Archie it..
Thanks in advance.. georges.milette@synapse.org
                                                
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass