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From: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: rock cocaine, ephadrine
Date: 13 Nov 1992 14:06:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
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In a previous article, fehlers@cs.utexas.edu (Todd Ehlers) says:

>Sorry if this has been addressed here before, but if noone wants to talk about
>it i'll just post again with something interesting like vitamin C or stricnine.
>
>What is the method used to make crack cocaine?  Not that I'm interested in making
>it (honest).
>I've just read about the ease in which dealers turn cocaine-hcl into crack
>in order to greatly increase profits, both by selling less actual cocaine/$ and
>increasing the addictiveness of the product.
>My understanding was that you just boil coke and baking soda.  In what ratios?

Word is that the soda precipitates out so its hard to add too much.


>
>Also, could the same be done to create a freebase form of ephadrine?  (crack is
>a freebase form of cocaine-hcl right?, correct me if i'm wrong.  like i stated
This should be true, but apparently street dealers add something to
the process to make "crack" that bulks the product up.  I have no idea how...


>in my last article, i'm no chemist)  I'm not particularly interested in freebasing
>ephidrine-hcl, but who knows maybe it could be worth a try.
>Has anyone tried it, and does anyone know of any particular dangers?

A really shitty high would be a big danger...
>
>-- 
>-tod ehlers
> fehlers@cs.utexas.edu
P.
-- 
"We're desperate, Get used to it,
  It's kiss or kill" - X
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From: Patricia Peterson@nicmad.uucp (Patricia Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Doctor ripoff, or just reality?
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:18:33 GMT
Organization: Nicolet Instrument Corp.

In article <1992Nov10.214207.10802@bradley.bradley.edu> guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan) writes:
>	I went to a dermatologist the other day with a friend.
>We needed a perscription for a `bleaching agent' to treat
>	By the time we were out of there, we were out $200.
>We felt ripped off.  I'd like to know if this is consistent
>with normal dermatology treatment or not.  Here is what
>we got out of it:
>
>	1) 5 minutes with the doctor.  During the time he
>	2) A blood sample taken (fairly ineptly too, the
>	3) A $34 6.5 oz jar of hand and body cream that
>	4) A prescription for a second type of cream that
>
>	We were told that the bill for a first time office
>visit would be $55 for `one skin disorder.'  Apparently
>because a blood sample was drawn, that first time visit
>went up to $80 plus a $16 `drawing fee' and then two
>$15 lab tests.  There were some other indecipherable
>charges on the receipt as well.
>	We expect that this stuff will be covered by the health
>insurance company, but we are still a bit enraged at this pricing.
>
>	So tell me, is this normal, or is the doctor screwing
>us over?

Don't take it for granted that the insurance company will cover it all.  I
would call the doctor's office and ask the person who handles patient accounts
exactly what you were billed for especially the "indecipherable" charges you
mention.  I question why a dermatologist would draw lab work for thyroid
problems.  Is this skin condition related to or caused by thyroid disfunction?
The charge for the office visit should not be higher because they did lab 
work.  Remember the also charged you a fee to draw the blood.  If that is their
excuse then this is double billing.  Charging twice for the same thing and if
your insurance company is on the ball they won't pay for this.

Patricia


>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>``written by a drunken insane pathological liar''        guru@stasi.bradley.edu


-- 

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---Dennis Peterson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike)
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:15:09

Hi folks,

In article <mtymp15.721453627@staff.tc.umn.edu>
mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:

>  NOW, it's your turn to talk.  Tell me what your personal favorite music is
>  when (IF) you are (WERE) tripping!

 Ahhh - a very important thread, indeed! The very best background
music I've heard of (from a FOAF who reputedly sometimes tries drugs)
is Led Zeppelin! Any of their record goes, but I've heard that the
first one is particularly good while doing pot, and Houses of the Holy
is excellent on acid.
--
Cheers,

            Misha
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: GOD/RAVES
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:22:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct27.095800.826@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1rs@dct.ac.uk writes:
>GOD IS A SPACE JUNKIE THAT INVENTED ECSTASY
>
>WHY DO PEOPLE WHO GO TO RAVES TAKE DRUGS AND GIVE THE WHOLE SCENE A BAD NAME
>
>PLEASE WRITE TO ME AND TELL ME BECAUSE I JUST CANT SEE THE
>FASCINATION WITH DRUG ABUSE

  Hey, I am an alumnus of the Dundee Institute of
technology, where you go to school. And I'm proud
to say that I'm now janitor 2nd class, and I just
wanted you to know that I think you have the right
stuff to do what I've done.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re:Clinton: "I am adamently apposed to legalization"
From: white_w@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:59:19 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

After reading the discussion of cigarette smoking I was reminded of something. 

	A couple of years ago tobacco was banned from all school property in
West Virginia.  Early the day before the law was to go into effect my high 
school biology teacher went to the teacher's lounge with a *PACK* of cigars.
(he quit smoking a few years earlier because his wife doesn't like it).  He
them proceeded to chain smoke the ENTIRE PACK.  All the teachers who smoke went
around complaining the whole day about the "horrible stench" in a room which
was normally so thick with smoke that fog horns were required.
	I don't know about you, but I think that is funny.  That was the first
day you could walk through that end of the hallway without smoke rolling from
under the door.
	Please E-Mail flames to me personally, other people probably don't want
to read them; unless, of course, they are exceptionally good.

			Will White
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
        Disclaimer:
	A.B. College isn't cool enough to share my opinions.  
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:06:40 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Nov5.115518.3721@wkuvx1.bitnet>, jagged@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
> There has been a discussion on here about what movies to watch while
> on LSD. Well from personal experience I would say the best movie for a
> "pro tripper" would be "Altered States".

"Fantasia" for the musicaly inclined, or for the inclined.

-- no sig necessary --
       Aza
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton)
Subject: I have a good file to post
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:10:32 GMT

but I dont know the command to put a text file in your post while using
"nn."   what is the command?



-- 
send flames, comments, questions, pap smear results, $10,000 in small bills, and
a large packet of neurotransmitter precursors to :  mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu
=====->Legalize Spiritual Discovery and Powerful Oxyhematoporphyrin Tools<-=====                 ...have you hugged an Ischiopagus lately?
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: Acid activities
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:01:57 GMT

In article <1db9boINN6fa@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> esrec@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr C L Mountford) writes:
>	My acid using friends use Vitamin C to abort bad trips. Apparently
>it brings you down prematurely, don't ask me how. Can anyone confirm or
>provide definite evidence to contrary? (And no bullshit please).

A friend of mine told me that whenever she's taken acid and eaten fruits
or drank orange juice the trip ended pretty fast and the visuals were
quite unnoticeable.

--
jjj@mits.mdata.fi     Thanks, Life; thanks, Death    And the other me:
jjj@niksula.hut.fi    for freeing me from self       Jenny L{rv{joki
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: Re: Dan Quayle new editor at Organic Gardening?
Date: 12 Nov 1992 15:44:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Ah yes, the two-edged sword of organicity!! I recall seeing
the local Austin organic grocery "chain" take it's hippy boy
carpentry team to the local steak house for dinner. I gave them
a hard time when I saw the organo van parked next to the Hofbrau
on 6th street. Even with pictures they wouldn't admit it.
-- 
Ted....
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
From: Thomas Bjorkman <Thomas_Bjorkman@cornell.edu>
Subject: Dan Quayle new editor at Organic Gardening?
X-Xxdate: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08: 40:00 GMT
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Organization: Cornell University
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:35:57 GMT

Has anyone else recognized a familiar theme in the editorial of this
month's Organic Gardening?  What I read was remarkably similar to Dan
Quayles "cultural war" speech at the Republican National Convention. 
Apparently either one is a 100% organic gardener or else one is a satanic
despoiler. There is no middle ground.  While part of the piece was about
the editorial policy of the magazine, which should be 100% organic of
course, many comments were about gardeners and farmers *who strayed from
the one path*.

I have always thought of folks involved with sustainable agriculture to
be a broadminded group; broadmindedness is necessary for developing
sustainability because no-one has all the answers.   Should we be
watchful for a faction espousing intolerance of deviation from the dogma?

I am concerned when a prominent person in a group I feel part of makes
noises that are so exclusionary.  Is this something happening on a wider
scale?
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: The Last Water Hole by Daniel Tyler (Water projects - history)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:30:51 GMT

THE LAST WATER HOLE IN THE WEST: THE COLORADO-BIG THOMPSON PROJECT
AND THE NORTHERN COLORADO WATER CONSERVANCY DISTRICT by Daniel
Tyler.  University Press of Colorado, P.O. Box 849, Niwot, CO 
80544.  Illustrated, index, bibliography, notes, glossary, maps,
list of acronyms and abbreviations.  613 pp., $19.95 cloth.
0-87081-277-7

                             REVIEW

     If you're anyone but a water historian, there's much more in
this book than you want to know about the Colorado-Big Thompson (C-
BT) Project, the largest trans-mountain water diversion.  Even
those not in the know, however, won't fail to admire Tyler's
scholarship.  "The Last Water Hole" is very similar to Robert
Gottleib's history of water development titled "Thirst For Growth,"
though not as critical.
     As a student of water policy, this book was a great read, even
though, at times, I objected to seeing these water developers of
the Northern Colorado Water Conservation District (NCWCD) portrayed
with human faces.  
     The book is broken into five parts: formative years (northern
Colorado's search for a water supply, planning the project, and the
acquisition of funding), the district during WWII (plan modifica-
tions and the push for final approval), construction and delivery
(but not without financial and legal problems), urbanization
(decisions about conservation versus the acquisition of new
supplies), and management v. environmental activism (i.e. the fight
over Two Forks).
     Environmentalists will balk at the happy face put on this
powerful water organization, but this isn't a gloss, as was Karen
Smith's reverent treatment of the Salt River Project in "The
Magnificent Experiment."  
     The NCWCD faces a hard future, and Tyler believes that the
creation of a regional authority for water management may help,
while the leadership of the NCWCD seems to be retrenching - saying
that it needs to "be more receptive to its constituency."  
     Whatever the eventual management scenario turns out to be, the
district has been placed as one of the best-researched in the
United States.
     Tyler is a professor of history at Colorado State University.

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From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
Subject: The Art and Craft of Jewelry by Janet Fitch
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:14:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

THE ART AND CRAFT OF JEWELRY: A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO HIGH-STYLE, LOW-
COST DESIGN by Janet Fitch, photography by Kevin Summers.  Grove
Press, 841 Broadway, N.Y., NY  10003-4793.  Illustrated, index,
glossary, directory of artists and designers.  144 pp., $24.95
cloth.  0-8021-1464-4

                             REVIEW

     When we go to gem shows, my wife and I love to look through
the miniature mountains of cut stones, choosing the best one we can
afford (usually a tourmaline or an emerald), and buying it.  Then
we go to other exhibits and find a setting (ring, pendant, etc.)
for it.  This can be done with several stones in one setting,
although we have yet to try the method.  This process can save
several hundreds of dollars, and one gets the feeling of being more
involved in the creation of the piece.
     Janet Fitch wants people to control the entire creative
process, and shows how with sixteen projects in "The Art and Craft
of Jewelry."  Fitch, who owns a jewelry store in London and is a
jewelry design consultant, provides a short history of jewelry
making, then gets started on the projects, grouped by materials. 
     She details projects in glass and ceramics (thong necklace,
wiring beads, stained glass pendant, mirror glass pin), wood (wood
earrings), paper mache earrings), fabric and leather (stiffened
fabric bracelet, fleece bead necklace), metal (silver wire stars,
annealed metal bracelet), plastics and resins (embedded resin
earrings, cast acrylic bracelet), enamel (enamel earrings), stones
(cabochon earrings), and found media, otherwise known as unorthodox
materials (wooden pendant, recycled necklace).
     Most of the projects range from very easy to more difficult,
but none need any special skill.  Fitch also encourages adapting
the projects to individual styles.
     Accompanying the instructions are detailed diagrams and 75
color photographs portray several versions of finished pieces. 
     This is the perfect gift for the aspiring jewelry artisan or
the person that enjoys saying, when asked where they got that
wonderful piece, "I made it."
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,alt.native
From: dz22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel L. Zabell)
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,alt.native
Subject: Re: Several book reviews on Native American topics
Date: 9 Nov 92 05:09:50 GMT
	<BxFAJ4.464@csn.org>
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm re-reading it right now (I think that this is the third time), and
it seems to sum up everything I would need to know about the 'Sioux
Indians'.  In the book, Lame Deer discusses civil rights (one chapter is
narrated from a protest site, where he sat on top of Teddy Roosevelt's
head on Mt. Rushmore!), the beliefs of the Lakota Sioux, including
detailed discussion of some of the ceremonies, inluding the Sun Dance
and a good explanation of the Ghost Dance (!), and his experiences as a
'medicine'-holy man.  Needless to say, the book has had a large effect
on my life.  Also, I once heard mention of a book by one Black Elk (both
of these books are quoted in Alice Walker's book _Horses Make a
Landscape More Beautiful_, a quote taken from Lame Deer).  If anyone
knows anything about this, PLEASE POST.  If it is good enough to quote
along with Lame Deer, I'd really like to know more about it.  The reason
I like it so much, however, is that it's not only a thorough description
of the Sioux, but it's also a lot of fun and uplifting to read.  I will
say no more, because I don't want to ruin it for you.  I found it easier
to order it from a new age bookstore, because they were more familiar
with the title.  It is not New Age, although it is not what some might
consider a 'scholarly' work.  I think that it's an excellent primary
source if you're doing Cultural Studies or Anthropological work (I think
of _The Forest People_ by Colin M. Turnbull, about the BaMbuti pygmies
right before the Ituri forest was demolished).

	Thank you for your time, and patience through my babbling,
		Dan Zabell
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,sci.anthropology,soc.culture.african
From: danny@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (Danny)
Subject:  Book Review - The External Trade of the Loango Coast 1576-1870
Reply-To: danny@cs.su.oz.au (Danny Yee)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:40:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.african

The External Trade of the Loango Coast 1576-1870
The Effects of Changing Commercial Relations on the Vili Kingdom of Loango
Phyllis M. Martin
Oxford 1972
pp. 193
[history,anthropology]

There are two very common misconceptions about African history.  The
first is that before the arrival of the Europeans all Africa (outside
Egypt) consisted of "primitive" tribes.  The second is that there is a
clear distinction between colonial and precolonial history.  _The
External Trade of the Loango Coast_, an account of a little known but
intriguing part of African history, provides good illustration of the
fallacy of both these ideas.  The subject may seem esoteric, but consider
whether a book entitled "English foreign trade, 1500-1800" would be
considered at all remarkable.  

In the 16th and 17th centuries the Vili kingdom of Loango was a powerful
centralised state, situated on the west coast of Africa between the
equator and the mouth of the Congo.  Its ruler, the Maloango, was able to
impose his own conditions on European traders, playing the different
nations (predominantly Portuguese and Dutch) off against one another.
Vili brokers acted as middlemen between African traders and European
ship captains and Vili officials exacted taxes and duties; both made
immense profits.  Vili currency (palm cloth) remained in use
throughout the whole of south-west Africa for several centuries.  

The trade was initially in luxury goods, with ivory, redwood and copper
being traded for cloth, guns and other manufactures.  However the growing
demand for slaves in the New World resulted in the almost completely
domination of the slave trade.  The volume of slaves exported from the
Loango coast reached over 15000 per year, and Vili merchants penetrated
far into the African interior in search of new sources.  

The primary economic effect of this trade was to create a class of rich
nobles whose wealth did not depend on the Maloango.  This resulted in the
gradual collapse of centralised authority and the eventual lapse of the
office of Maloango.  So the final demise of the kingdom was due to
European influence, but indirectly so.  

A very readable book about a fascinating subject.

10/11/92

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From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,alt.native,rec.arts.books
Subject: Kill Hole by Jamake Highwater (Fiction)
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:55:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

KILL HOLE by Jamake Highwater.  Grove Press, 841 Broadway, N.Y., NY 
10003-4793.  214 pp., $18.95 cloth.  0-8021-1475-X

                             REVIEW

     "Kill Hole" is a novel that works on many levels, as evidenced
by the first line: "Someone must have been telling lies about Sitko
Ghost Horse, because without having done anything wrong he was
arrested."  Fans of Kafka will recognize this passage, with a
different name, as the opening line of "The Trial."  Ghost Horse,
however, goes through much more than just a trial.
     Highwater, one of America's leading authorities on myth and
culture (he is the founder of the annual Festival Mythos, a seven-
week program of music, dance, art, literature, and scholarship, all
on the theme of mythology, at Philadelphia's University of the
Arts), has written a painful story, combining dreams and reality to
form an existence that shows how the mind reacts to the body's
imprisonment.
     Ghost Horse is a gay artist who escapes the malignant life of
the city, only to be captured by a primitive Indian tribe who
believe that he is an evil spirit who has appeared on the "Night of
the Washing of the Hair," during which the children are initiated
into adulthood.  He is imprisoned and charged with contaminating
the ritual.  If he is found to be evil, all the children must die.
     He is given a chance to identify himself at an inquisition,
and he is unable to do so, since he was abused by his Indian father
and raised by a white family.  Consequently, he is found to be
evil, especially when the tribal elders see the pictures he draws
on his cell walls with charcoal.
     While imprisoned, he relives his life in graphic dreams and
hallucinations.  He is assisted in coming to terms with his
identity and his past by Patu (a man who wears the clothes and
performs the duties of a woman - the tribal elders fear her), the
person who brings him his food.  
     Even though he regains a sense of identity, the elders say he
must be sacrificed to save the children.  They are not prepared,
however, for the force of his resistance.  While the book ends
without full reconciliation, Highwater's vision leaves the reader
satisfied.  Those who know the classical mythic themes will be all
the more pleased.
     Highwater has not only written other fiction ("Anpao,"
"Journey to the Sky," "The Ceremony of Innocence," and others), he
has written two books of poetry, and several works of nonfiction. 
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From: dz22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel L. Zabell)
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,alt.native
Subject: Re: Several book reviews on Native American topics
Date: 8 Nov 92 23:24:43 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


 Don't forget 

LAME DEER SEEKER OF VISIONS by John (Fire) Lame Deer and Richard Erdoes.
 Washington Square Press (Pocket Books --> Simon & Schuster), 1230
Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY 10020.  277 pp., $4.95 paperback. 
0-671-55392-5

Sorry for anything I may have left out, or if you already posted this
(I'm sort of new 'round these here parts, and to reviewing books). 
Great read!

   :) ,

Dan Zabell
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