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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:44:02 -0400
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Subject:      Re: problem with jan_receive area and quotas

JNET-L@UGA.BITNET  (BITNIC JNET-L List) 27-AUG-1992 writes:

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>From: "Stephen L. Arnold" <ARNOLD@ARNOLD.COM>
>Subject: RE: problem with jan_receive area and quotas
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>I can understand why a system administration would like to prevent users
>from using the JAN_RECEIVE area to circumvent disk quota policies.
>However, I think procedures based on the number of files are
>ill-conceived.  Instead, action should be based on a policy about disk
>space consumed and/or a time limit.  What if a user requests a package
>that ships in 4 parts?  The user would have to stay logged in and try to
>receive the first parts as they arrive so they aren't purged!  The user
>may have to request a package several times to get all the parts.
>
>Also, your BITNET neighbors may have spent a lot of resources (CPU
>cycles, disk space, network bandwidth) to deliver the files to you.
>This is why Jnet receives files and why VMSmail usually is configured to
>receive mail with EXQUOTA.
>
>If you must enforce a limit to prevent abuse of the JAN_RECEIVE area,
>consider moving over-the-limit files to the Postmaster's area for
>a time, from where the Postmaster can easily retrieve them after (your
>choice) lecturing the user, charging a file, reporting the problem to
>the user's department chair, etc.
>
>"Steve"   Stephen L. Arnold, Ph.D., Principal, Arnold Consulting
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>Internet   Arnold@Arnold.Com            BITNET     ARNOLD@WISCPSL

I agree that as a site we should receive all jnet files bound for our
users.  I would like to see JNET use a similiar method as other programs
do (PMDF for example) uses for delivery of mail.  Mail is delivered to the
users account with exquota.  This method takes out all of the problems with
the administrators enforcing policies.  It is now the responsiblity of
the user if they want to save the file to make arrangements to do
so...such as deleting something else...getting more quota etc.

Maybe if more people would complain to JNET people about this problem they
would fix it or hire someone else to do so. :-)

Melvin Alcorn



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