From: jdporter@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: 24 Aug 92 14:23:06 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <64420@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
> 
>      Subject: People Evacuation Part 1.
>              It seems that in the training that has been given to me
>      in the past by the space people one of its purposes was to 
>      make me a person who would be aboard a craft and help others
>      to be calm in case of a personnel evacuation.

You say it seems to you?These space people have been giving you all this
training and haven't even yet told you what the training is in aid of?  Anyway,
what the hell is a personell evacuation, and why should one be done?  What
space people?

>  I'm not saying
>      there is going to be one at the present time but if there
>      ever was one I'd be ready.

Ready for what,to calm everybody and tell them it'sd quite all right to rungo
into a strange space-ship?

>              If you will, please let me conduct you on an imaginary 
>      evacuation.  First of all you should hope to be invited to be
>      taken aboard by some people that are from local planets for
>      they say Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and 
>      Pluto do have human life in their appropriate form (you notice
>      they didn't say they looked exactly like us especiallly).

(1) Who are the they who say it?
(2) If it is human life which doesn't look like us in particular it isn't
really human by a normal definition.  Anyway, let us examine these planets
named one by one: Venus has an atmosphrer consisting mostly of sulphuric acid,
at enormous pressures and temperatures (I'd love to live there!) Mars has a
very thin atmosphere and no surface water (certainly little plant life, as the
O2 level is too low), Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune are gaseous planets,
so by the time you reached any 'solid' surface the pressue would be in to
millions of atmospheres, so survival might be quite difficult.  As for Pluto,
it is small and cold and a long way away - any water based life form would die
quite unpleasantly on exposure there, so how could 'humans' possibly live
there?
 
>              The Brotherhood has on call over 11,000,000 craft the 
>      last I heard.

Who they?  Incidentally, wouldn't these 11000000 shiups have been noticed by
now when they bombed about the solar system?  Or is it just that there's a
massive conspiracy on the part of all the astronomers and anybody else who
happens to look into the sky every now and then to not let us know about it?

>  They range from 30 foot shuttles (our word for
>      it) to motherships 360 feet long.  One mother carries about 50
>      shuttles.  Then they have ships that are called arks like the 
>      seven cities of Shan.  Some ships have names such as Transvaal
>      and one called Phoenix.

I didn't know the aliens came from South Africa.

>  The next are minature worlds like the 
>      New Jerusalem which is 1,500 miles square, but then I'm getting
>      into religion.

Indeed, a very true statement, you do indeed seem to have erected a religion
based around the idea of aliens - may I ask how many of your visions are a
result of faith and how many of actually certifiable physical experience (and
why not give us some of the evidence to prove these experiences of yours,like
an interview with one of your trainers, or something like that?)
 
>              There are two or more ways to get picked up.  The first 
>      is teleportation.  It's best to stand still with your two hands
>      together pointed straight up.  This will cut down on the reac-
>      tion your body may have to the  magnetic fild that is used to 
>      pick you up.

Uh?  This son't sound like telkeportation to me boyo.  You appear to be saying
that people are physically lifted into the ships.

>?  The second way is like you going into Noah's Ark.

What, you mean paired off?  Why Noah's ark, why not the QE2 or the Titanic or
something like that?

>              This will be a lot like taking a trip aboard an air line 
>      such as The Alaskian Air Line.  You may be greeted by a person
>      like myself from Earth who will calm you down and tell you 
>      where to go.
>  I'll introduce you to some very nice space people
>      who will be taking you to a place that will be commensurante
>      with your present developement.

Well frankly, your space people can go **** themselves if they think they're
going to go asround telling me what my level of development is - anyway,
judging from their taste in humans, I'm not sure that we'd get on.
'commensurate with my present devlopment' my foot.  I'll be astonished if they
can find antwhere in this Solar system commensurate with our physical bodies
for starters.


>              That's all for now.  
>              I'll leave you with this saying;  I have heard a saying
>      on Earth that is we ever went to another planet and found 
>      another type of people or creatures that that were less 
>      intelligent than we are we would ??? them.

I don't like to speculate on what has been censored here.

>>              This is being  posted by Don Showen for John Winston. I
>      am not Don.  Don is not me.

Very gnomic, I must say.

This is being posted by Julian Porter for Julian Porter and with his full
knowledge and consent (I think) - any opinions expressed in it are clearly
therefore not his own.
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