From: v094lrtr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Brent Fiene)
Newsgroups: alt.wolves
Subject: Re: Working with Wolves
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:32:00 GMT
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In article <1992Sep11.021124.23688@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, joi@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (JMM) writes...
>In article <BuDoCC.J6A@acsu.buffalo.edu> v094lrtr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Brent Fiene) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep10.184445.25108@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto) writes...
>>>In article <BuDBns.Aw4@acsu.buffalo.edu> rmr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Richard M. Romanowski) writes:
>>>>pierccm@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi!
>>>>
>>>>>Anyone else out there interested in working with wolves as a career (or
>>>>>already working with them)?
>>>>
>>>>	Well, you could go to Alaska with a 7.65 mm and shoot down the
>>>>damn airplanes ... and anybody who crawls out of them alive ...
>>>>
>>>>	... but assuming you don't have an automatic weapon handy, you 
>>>>could do something more constructive ... like sabotage the planes on 
>>>>the ground.
>>>(some more suggestions deleted)
>>>>
>>>>OWooOOOOOoooooOOOO
>>>>Rick
>>>Rick -
>>>Why do you advocate killing of humans?  Why do you advocate sabotage?
>>>Don't humans have a right to live that is equal to the wolves?  Aren't
>>>humans part of the animal kingdom?
>>>Mary Otto
>>
>>saying that hunting is legal is saying that we are a superior species.
>>we have alot to learn from wolves(and other species). i advocate the
>>hunting and killing of sane murderers who kill for the fun of it. if you
>>dont like it... go to hell!
>>
>>-brent
> 
>Wolves hunt.  Wolverines also hunt--for the fun of it.  Weasles have been
>known to slaughter an entire hen house and leave it.  That also sounds
>like hunting "for the fun of it".

if i had a hen house, i would shoot that weasle. as for the the wolves
hunting, that is survival of the fittest. the animals they catch are
the diseased and crippled, etc. the slaughter of these is a necessary
evil, sadly. BUT, if humans went hunting with no weapons (well, i'll
let them bring a knife) i would not say a word. they would then be
catching the diseased and lame, and helping that species.

> 
>It's not very constructive to insult and condemn out of hand.  Humans are
>part of the animal kingdom, and the biggest fault I see is not recognizing
>that we are PART of nature and must regain that sense of living with and 
>not against the rest of nature.
> 
>Incidentally, saying things like "do nature a favor, stay the hell away
>from it" fails to recognize that we are a part of it.  We don't have to
>destroy when we appreciate.

sorry, but we are too far away from nature, that is a fault of our
forefathers. the only thing all but a handful of us can do now is
destroy it.
> 
>Fanaticism on either side of environmental issues will never solve the
>problems that we've created.  It only creates more problems and fuels
>the fires that destroy.

they say the same thing about government revolutions. the ones leading
the revoultions in their respective ex-communist countries were called
fanatics by there governments.
> 
>I can understand the anger you're displaying.  I sometimes get very angry,
>too--and definitely very sad to see beautiful creatures destroyed by
>thoughtless or callous individuals.  The key is *education* and understanding
>the other points of view.  That way we can persuade, convince, and preserve
>what we most love, without becoming destroyers ourselves.

sorry again. but the point of view you ask me to understand is that its
ok to kill wildlfe because they are inferior to us (basically they could
not produce firearms). i will never agree with this.
> 
>	Joy Metcalf

-brent
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