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From: Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: setterm -dump question
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:54:00 -0800

If I boot Linux in the normal VGA (80x24) video mode setterm -dump gives
me an image of the screen in a file.

If I use any other video mode on boot up (132x44 is my normal preff)
setterm -dump gives me a core dump.

Is there a way to get setterm to reconize my 132x44 video mode?

BTW I have tried  TERM=con132x44 in my .profile and profile files, does
not solve the problem...

Thanks in advance.

 * Origin: Intermittent Connection, Eugene OR 503-344-9838 (1:152/35)
From: root@slave.uwe.ac.uk (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X - how do I stop ctrl-alt-BS?
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:53:24 GMT
Reply-To: p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Organization: The New University in the West of England, Bristol (WEB)


Having munged through most of the docs etc, I have come across a problem
that I cannot redress, that of Xlock,...

The linux machine that I use here is a research machine and I have found
that to my annoyance a normal (unix unfriendly) user can get to console
while it is xlocked and type in crtl-alt-del which kills the server
stone dead includeing any work I'm doing at that time (*fume*  - it was
my net-FAQ that I was working on) I locked the xserver using xlock in the
reasonable expectation that the console would still have all my work on it
when I can back from an errand. Instead I cam back to find this guy on it
running amok with root privs. I have a /etc/locked shell for this guy,
Dylan wrote it cos he also got cheesed of at this It's rather simple
nasty and effective. I'll get Dylan to post it later.

I do NOT want to use xdm. I start X with the startx command from root
as I do alpha testing. HOW DO I STOP THAT SERVER DYING?

On a completely different topic, does anyone know where the 
'bastard operator from hell' scripts reside? I saw one and liked it,
I may even take up some of it's practices 8-)

Phil (The irrate)
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From: root@slave.uwe.ac.uk (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: TCP Problems: Unknown service Solved !!!!!!!!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:13:13 GMT
Reply-To: p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Organization: The New University in the West of England, Bristol (WEB)

In article <3S28X5M@math.fu-berlin.de>, gerd@zaphod.physik.fu-berlin.de (Gerd
Buntkowsky) writes:
|> Hello and thanks to everybody who helped me,
|> I finally got the tcpip running
|> the problem with the unknown service is, that telnet looks for
|> the file /usr/etc/inet/services, while my path was /etc/services.
|> In this regard my question, should I link /usr/etc/inet to /etc ?

yes erm well,... the unfortunate thing is that the networking code
evolves too quickly at times and that was one of them,... 
the correct standard place for services is in /etc BUT as all the
tcpip code is being worked on, a temp(?) dir was used instead
/usr/etc/inet so services was kept seperate from the /etc dir as
it was a piece of the tcpip data files. I'd be slightly hesitant
about linking an entire dir to another
(mv /usr/etc/inet/* /etc;rmdir /usr/etc/inet;ln -s /etc /usr/etc/inet)
(think thats right) so I tend only to link single files, (the other
candidate being /usr/etc/inet/hosts -> /etc/hosts

always when in doubt use 'strings <file> | more' and look for hard
coded filenames

Phil
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Packaging Linux
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:35:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.160323.18982@ms.uky.edu> rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.) writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.160444.16116@scifi.uucp> njs@scifi.uucp
>					(Nicholas J. Simicich) writes:
>>In article <17612@mindlink.bc.ca> Neklan_Brozensky@mindlink.bc.ca
>					(Neklan Brozensky) writes:
>>
>>>BTW I'm a new linux user, and like the original poster of this thread, I
>>>agree that A simple prepackaged Xwindow linux could really make some noise on
>>>the desktop, but *only* when it has DOS compatibility.

Joe User won't port code, contribute fixes or source, and will annoy 
real Linux users with his whining about there not being a "real" editor, 
about Linux being difficult because it isn't dos, etc.  

So do we care if Joe User uses Linux?

Linux works wonderfully for people who want a 386 unix that runs on 
a wide variety of hardware, uses a minimal amount of resources,
has many Whizzy Features(tm) (ie, /proc, unified user memory pool / buffer 
cache, VFS layer, etc).  On top of all that, you get full source and
its free.

>>I personally think that another essential for mass-usage is going to
>>be a filesystem that doesn't require sync() or fsck.  This isn't an
>>impossible task, and yes, there is a performance hit, but I don't
>>think you are going to sell a system to the masses that they can't
>>turn off whenever they want to.


>The Macintosh has had quite a bit of sales, and Apple (for good reason)
>repeatedly warns you NOT to turn off the machine without shutting it down.
>(Can you say "Destroyed system file?" I knew you could...) After all, how
>hard is it to "sudo halt" or "su root; halt"? 
>
>I personally tend to rate the end-user's intellegence a bit high, tho. If
>my mother can get the hang of using a Mac Classic 2 and Lotus 1-2-3, then
>most people can handle any UNIX with a good installer. (And no comments from
>the crowd about Mac, we are talking about my mother here. :)

>BTW: Does anyone know if the sudo writen up in _UNIX System Administration Book_
>(Nemeth, Snyder and Seebass) is in the public domain or at least for public
>distribution? If it is, then I think it would be a Good Idea (tm) to include
>sudo as part of the SLS distribution.

Yes - you can ftp sources from 

boulder.Colorado.EDU /pub/sa-book/sudo.v1.2.tar.Z

-- 
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit. | Drew Eckhardt
Condemn Colorado for Amendment Two.		 | drew@cs.colorado.edu
Use Linux, the fast, flexible, and free 386 unix |
From: guenther@stolaf.edu (Philip Guenther)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Meaning of "gets unreliable" message?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:04:21 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Center, St. Olaf College

In article <1992Nov18.103822.7703@rtf.bt.co.uk> grundy@rtf.bt.co.uk (Martin Grundy) writes:
   I am running linux-0.98.1 which I down-loaded from hlu's GCC distribution
   from tsx-11-mirror on doc.ic.ac.uk, and it all appears to run very well.
   (Many thanks Linus et al.!).

   However, when I try to compile (gcc 2.2.2d and lib4.1) a program that
   uses the gets() function, I get a warning message from the linker (I think)
   that says:

	   "the `gets' function is unreliable and should not be used"

   Despite this message, the programs so far have worked ok.

   I haven't seen any other threads on c.o.l about this (yet), and am
   wondering if:

	   a) the message means what it says, and it will be fixed in lib4.2
   or if   b) the message is spurious?

The problem lies in the very idea of gets().  gets() can overfill the
array you pass it, munching whatever follows.  If the array is a
automatic variable, then it can even overwrite the stack, leading to
jumps into nowhere.  This bug was used by the Morris Internet worm, as
finger called gets().  The worm would pass the finger daemon on
another machine a very long carefully crafted string, which would
overwrite the stack with a jump into the array, where it has just
placed sopme code!  As is, gets() is supposed to be for backward
compatibility only I believe.  To see for yourself that it isn't safe,
figur out how to pass the program's gets() call a string to long for
the array that is supposed to contain it.

Philip Guenther
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guenther@stolaf.edu (Philip Guenther)       | The ACC might agree with me,
Student Sys Prog, Academic Computing Center | but with that bunch, (and me)
St Olaf College, Northfield, MN 55057-1001  | you never know... :-) :-| :-(
"Life makes sense?  LIFE MAKES SENSE!!?  Where do people get these ideas?"-me
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ssb1pzp@access.digex.com (Phil Perucci)
Subject: Link /tmp and /usr/tmp?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:27:47 GMT

This is SO embarassing!...

OK you partitioning experts...  I have / & /tmp file systems.
(Oh yes, latest SLS 098pl5)  Want to link /usr/tmp to /tmp.
I have tried EVERYTING I can think of to make the link. 
No luck.

Anybody feeling helpful?

--
phil perucci
ssb1pzp@digex.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: I2010301@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de
Subject: sources for dvi**, where to find ???
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:36:52 GMT

There was some guy posting where to find sources for the dvi**.
But it ran out of my hands. So it would be very kind if someone
could e-mail the places.
I am mostly interested in sources for dvihplj (don't like the
ghostscript way). Perhaps someone can send it personally?
 
Thanks in advance
harvey
(i2010301 at dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de)
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: quirks and questions about various networking programs
Date: 22 Nov 1992 01:55:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu



I seem to have lost the email address of the individual who wrote tcpip
support for linux, so hopefully some of you here will be able to answer
these question. I thank you for any info you can provide.

1) when i telnet into my 486 linux box running 0.98.1 and then logout,
some traces of the session are left. They can be seen with 'w' and
'finger'. For example,
 
# w
  8:37pm  up  1:37,  9 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.11, 0.09
User     tty       login@  idle   JCPU   PCPU  what
LOGIN    tty2      6:59pm  1:37                 (getty)
LOGIN    tty4      6:59pm  1:37                 (getty)
LOGIN    tty3      6:59pm  1:37                 (getty)
root     tty1      7:09pm  1:26   7:04          (startx)
root     ttyp0     7:49pm         1:00      1  telnet freenet-b
root     ttyp1     7:11pm            7         w
lP	   ttyp0     1Jan70           59         
mlewis   ttyp2     8:05pm    31                
lP	   ttyp2     1Jan70    31                

# finger
Login       Name              TTY Idle    When            Office
root     system admin          1  1:26 Sat 19:09 
root     system admin          p0      Sat 19:49 
root     system admin          p1      Sat 19:11 
mlewis   administrator         p2   30 Sat 20:05 

The entries for mlewis are phantoms. That person is not really 
logged in.

2)  I discovered an interesting quirk with the ftp in
  b4/tcpip.taz in the SLS package. FTPing to sunsite.unc.edu,
  i entered my email address for password as normal. However, after
 after that, any 'ls' or 'dir' resulted in 
   ftp: bind: I/O error
 Luckily, I discovered that if you suppress the helpful messages
 by inserting a - in front of your email address the password,
 'ls' and 'dir' work fine. Any ideas as to why this is???
 
3)  attempting to do a shell command under ftp, such as
     '!ls', works but I always get two errors, each saying
    a:command not found

4)  lastly, i grabbed all the stuff out of the system/Network
   directory on sunsite. I was able to recompile finger, etc. but
   talk and talkd would not make due to the absence of a library
   called libinet.a. What is this library wand where might i 
   obtain it???


Again, i thank all of you for the wonderful work. i hope i can
repay you in some manner someday. :)

Later

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cyber-mercenary       to tell you/I love your precious heart/I/I was
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From: jrowland@cs.utexas.edu (John Richards Rowland)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Diamond Speedstart 24
Date: 18 Nov 1992 13:19:39 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: diamond speedstar

Setting the text mode at boot time has the side effect of setting
the clocks on the card.  Thats how I do it anyway.  Just try
some of the modes to find the one that gives you what you want.

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From: glenw@remus.rutgers.edu (Glenn Wasserman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need solitaire for X!!!
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:26:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I can't live without solitaire!!!

Anyone know if or where there is a good X version available?

Thanks!

-Glenn

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jahoward@iastate.edu (Jim)
Subject: Re: SLS update (addendum)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:55:25 GMT

In <1992Nov18.062151.19588@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:

>It seems that I made a crucial mistake with the soft link in a5/zafix.taz
>in the .98p5 upgrade (I forgot to make the  /usr/bin/X11 link relative
>to ../X386/bin so that the installation won't fail.  But when I tried
>to upload the replacement, it failed.  The tsx-11 disk is full.  

>So, you can get it from sunsite.unc.edu:pub/Linux/Incoming/zafix.taz
>until Ted can fix this up.  

>Peter


Ok, so ignore my previous post about the zero length file...

Thanks.

Jim

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From: dingbat@diku.dk (Niels Skov Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Seyon
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:59:27 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

frank@atlas.physchem.chemie.uni-tuebingen.de (Frank Siegert) writes:

[ ... ]

>I got the same error. It looks like XtInitApplication blows the thing up
>(segment violation) in seyon-cmd. Funny because the parameters for this
>function are all valid (checked with gdb). Since I have successfully
>compiled X apps on my machine I suspect something is rotten in Denmark...

Ok, I'm posting this from Denmark. Nothing is rotten around my place
and Seyon 1.1 compiles and runs out of the box :-)

0.98pl5
GCC 2.2.2d7 and jump4.1
XFree86 with S3 server

Niels
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bjjung@love (administrator)
Subject: A question about TCP/IP
Organization: KAIST in Seoul, Korea
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 11:07:21 GMT


I have a questions about TCP/IP.

I installed Linux-0.98pl5 with Xfree86 and TCP/IP. 
And It works fine.

But The network program hangs occasionally.

1. when I ftped to other workstation(SUN) and some dir, ls,
	ftp program hung about 1 minute and closed connection message.

2. when I ran some X client programs at SUN via TCP/IP,
	client program hung.

I think above problem is due to some timing constant,
	but I have no idea about that.

Is there any clues ?

Thanks for reading.                                         bjjung.

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From: kernel@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kernel Account)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xdm won't use Xresources
Date: 16 Nov 1992 16:57:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: kernel@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kernel Account)
NNTP-Posting-Host: manager.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

I can't get xdm to run using the default settings I setup in the file
/usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm/Xresources.  I start xdm with the command line

xdm -config /usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-config

but I get the same old login window as before.  Anyone know how to make  
xdm use the Xresources and the xdm-config?

Jeff Little

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From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: warning: off topic posting
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:55:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu



anyone know if there is a USENET group for used computers, buying and
selling?

I'm lookiing for old Atari stuff and maybe a PDP-11 :)

thanx in advance
-- 
maThiEu a. LeWis     "Don't ask me/what you know is true/don't have
cyber-mercenary       to tell you/I love your precious heart/I/I was
Thieves Like Us       standing/you were there/two worlds collided/and
mal11@Po.cwru.edu     they could never tear us apart." 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: c-amb@math.utah.edu (Mark B. Alston)
Subject: Std_environ error? (PLP problem)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:40:32 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Utah

I am having a problem that I cannot solve. Whenever I run dvips I get
the following error:

This is dvips 5.495 Copyright 1986, 1992 Radical Eye Software
' TeX output 1992.11.19:1755' -> !lpr
<tex.pro>. Std_environ: host entry for '' not found at Thu Nov 19 18:38:13 1992
Broken pipe


I get a similar error when trying to run /usr/lib/lpd:
$ /usr/lib/lpd
Std_environ: host entry for '' not found at Thu Nov 19 18:40:43 1992
$

Can someone shed light on my problem?

--

  Mark Alston               U.S. out of North America!
  c-amb@math.utah.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: djm@eng.umd.edu (David J. MacKenzie)
Subject: Re: union wait
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 18:00:00 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland

   |> What is the linux-ism for a "union wait"?  It would really be helpful
   |> to know for porting some software.

   Include <sys/wait.h>, You are home free. If your software ueses "union wait"
   directly, rather than wait macros, fix your software. That will make it
   more portable.

I think what he was asking was *how* to "fix your software" -- what's
the correspondence between the union wait elements and the POSIX wait
macros.  Unfortunately I don't have time to produce an equivalence
table right now -- maybe someone else does?
From: Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: KERMIT quirk
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:52:01 GMT

As I have not purchased a pair of E-Net cards to try TCP/IP, I decided
to try and use KERMIT on a serial line to access the machine on the
other end of the house.

I had an existing 6 conductor phone line that I use for a DOS network
(NET$25) that runs fine on it at 115kb, so I hooked it up and ran KERMIT
in the server mode on my 286 AST and ran KERMIT under X on the LINUX
machine (486).
All worked well (a few errors at 38400) until I upgrade from the SLS
0.98pl1 to pl2.  Kermit would no longer work.
After many attempts and then upgrading to pl3 and pl4 it still would not
work, it would (both systems in con mode) recieve data, but not send
(well that is what I though till I was on the phone for about 10 minutes
and then saw what I had typed on the linux kermit show up on the dos
end, yea 10 minutes later).

So I tried it on a 2400 baud modem, all worked well, 0.98pl1 thru pl4.

Well walking back and forth down the hall at 3 am got a testy responce
from my spouse, so I set a terminal up on the floor and hooked it up as
a dummy xon/xoff terminal.

WOW it worked!!!

So what was different?  THE CABLE
It appears that the updates to the serial i/o now look at some of the
DTR, CTS type signals.  The cable that worked had only 2-3, 3-2, 7-7
connected, the other one 2-3, 3-2, 4-4, 6-20 and 7-7.

Hope my experiance saves someone else some frustrations.

BTW, I noticed that any activity on the linux pc causes errors to be
genetated when KERMIT is recieving a file.
I got around this by setting the retrys to 30 on both ends.

It is nice to be able to get files from the BBS system while on the
other end of the house and recomplie the latest patch to the kernel at
the same time as playing Tetris til one of the jobs has completed.

Question
--------
I am now running C-Kermit 5a (wermit) and would like to try
a faster that 38400 baud rate (the Kermit-MS 2.32/A on the BBS machine
can go to 115200 baud.
Where do I find    #define B57600 or such to allow me to compile wermit
for higher than 384 ?  I can patch the code in the ckufio.c, but it
yells about not finding B57600.
What include file are those limits set in?


Thanks
------
My thanks to Linus and many others for a powerful work/learn system. 
Also to SLS for making the collection and installation of LINUX much
easier! (X386 is nice to use)

 * Origin: Intermittent Connection, Eugene OR 503-344-9838 (1:152/35)
From: Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: serial ports are broken in p4!
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:08:03 -0800

 >    I believe it is pin 4, old cable was 2-3, 3-2, 4-4,
 > 6-20 and 7-7.
 >    New cable is 2-3, 3-2 and 7-7 and works fine.

 > 4-4 sounds suspicious; I doubt that was right!  A
 > "correct" null modem
 > cable would have done something like this:

You are correct on the 4-4, that is what the label on the connector
said, inside it was 5-5 that went straight thru.

 > What you probably saw happening is that after 0.98pl1,
 > Linux started
 > supporting hardware handshaking, which is one more
 > thing to get right.

 > particuliar serial port.  (Note: not all stty's
 > support NOCRTSCTS; it is
 > a trivial patch to stty to get it to support the new
 > termio flag, though.)

Would appreciate info on what to patch.

 > would be best to get a full cable and/or get your PC
 > to do hardware
 > handshaking correctly, since you need that if you want
 > to do high speed reliable transfers.

This brings up another question;
what LINUX source files need patching to allow higher than 38.4?  I
would like to go to 115.2 or at least 57.6 for my
BUDGET kermit link to my BBS system.

 > Solving it the way you did, by getting a simple
 > calbe that doesn't try to do anything with the DTR/DSR
 > and CTS/RTS lines
 > works, as you saw, but at the cost of losing hardware
 > handshaking.

Yes, it still gets a few packet errors when multitasking and writing
buffers to disk.  I wii try a full cable and see if those dissapear...

Many thanks for your reply, I am sure you cleared up some of the
confusion for me and some others.

 * Origin: Intermittent Connection, Eugene OR 503-344-9838 (1:152/35)

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