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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: A/UX's UNSOLVED MYSTERIES!! HELP PLEASE (AGAIN!)
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:41:44 GMT

un032463@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

>O.K.,
>	Boy, this A/UX 3.0 thing is getting REALLY STRANGE!!!  Let me tell you!
>I am having trouble installing 3.0 on my IIci, BIG TROUBLE!  In fact, I went
>so far as to take my hard drive out of my computer, put it in a friends IIsi,
>and install 3.0 on his machine (with MY hard drive) and then PUT MY hard drive
>back in my machine.  Well to my surprise, IT WORKED!!!  I can't understand WHY
>I can now boot A/UX, but I can.

>	Why would I be able to install 3.0 on his IIsi, and NOT on my IIci?
>We both have IDENTICLE hardrives, and I am using a CD-Techologies CD-ROM
>player (which shows up as a Toshiba XM-3301TA under SCSI Check).  I guess the
>only culprit left is my SCSI port/driver/WHAT?!?!?  I am so confused, it is
>not funny!  The techs at Apple have NO CLUE as to what the problem is!  So,
>you netters are my LAST hope!  Any suggestions/comments?  Please let me know!

There are some options, which hopefully have been looked at:

	1. You have some floppy drive problem... it may be _thats_
	   the reason that installing doesn't work. Has it been
	   acting up at all?

	2. Strange SCSI termination... Or possibly cabling?

	3. A bad SCSI port.

	4. A bad disk... as you may know, the SCSI throughput of the
	   IIci is faster than all Macs but the Quadras (the IIci's
	   about 1.8MB/s). Maybe pushing the disk to faster speeds
	   causes problems.

	5. Flaky RAM on the IIci

How much was different between the IIci and the IIsi? That is, what were
the conmfigurations of _both_ machines?
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "This is supposed to be a happy occasion.
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  Let's not bicker and argue about who
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |  killed who."
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |
From: rainer@pandoras-box.path.med.ufl.edu (Robert Rainer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Help Setting up Modem
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:28:35 GMT
Organization: ufl.edu

Hello;

	I now have to deal with a line mode transfer when I dial into the campus
network, and boy does it suck!  I have access to two hayes modems.  They
are only 2400 bds, but speed is not really a factor.  I want to know what
I need to do to get into a login prompt and vt100 emulation.

	1) What type of cable do I need to go from my Aux mac to my modem.  I have the
pin out specs for the modem if I need to make a cable.

	2) How do I need to set the hardware switces on the Hayes modem.  I think:

				1--dowm
				2--N/A
				3--up
				4--down
				5--up
				6--up
				7--up
				8--up

	3) What files do I need to set up so that AUX will know that there is a modem
available to handle incomming calls.

	4) What do I need to put in these files.

	5) do I need to run any programs like cu or uucp to handle the modem
connection, or do I handle it as a port.

thanks -- robert rainer

rainer@pandoras-box.path.med.ufl.edu
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Any problems with Quadra ethernet?
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:16:05 GMT
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center

rob@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu (Robert K Shull) writes:

>Has anyone seen any problems with the built-in ethernet on the Quadra 700?

I know that the Q900 had some ROM problems with onboard ethernet using
"larger buffer sizes" but this has been fixed with the Q950.

Don't know if the Q700 is affected, but it's a shot.
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "This is supposed to be a happy occasion.
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  Let's not bicker and argue about who
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |  killed who."
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: GNUplot 3.2 for A/UX 3.0
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:23:26 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

There were a few loose ends when GNUplot 3.0 -> A/UX 3.0 was 
discussed back in April, so here are some tips that may save
time for installing 3.2. 

First, get wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors/gnu/gnuplot-3.2.tar.Z 
and gcc-2.2.1 from /systems/aux/gnu; compiling with cc doesn't 
seem to work. 

To build GNUplot, uncompress and untar gnuplot-3.2.tar.Z.
Rename makefile.unx to "Makefile", and set "CC = gcc", and 
OPTIONS = -traditional -DNOCWDRC -DNOVFORK by editing Makefile.
(You'll probably also want to set DEST and HELPDEST for your
system.)  Then type "make All", which builds GNUplot as a 
generic X11R4 client.  If this is successful, entering "make
Install" will move the binaries and help file to their proper
destinations. 

(See the article "Shell script for installing man pages" for 
info on an easy method for formatting/installing the man pages.)

Note:  one thing that I'd like to have but couldn't get to 
work is command-line editing, which should be enabled by 
compiling with the -DREADLINE option.  If anyone has found
a way to do this, please let me know.  That might make it 
worth writing up a makefile or aux-diffs;  otherwise this
should be enough for anyone who was able to install gcc.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: m211037@regen.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Martin Heimann)
Subject: thre A/UX 3.0 questions from a beginner...
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 10:33:23 GMT

Dear colleagues:

After having installed A/UX 3.0 on my Quadra-900 system, I have 
encountered the following not necessarily related problems. I am not a 
unix-crack and have only followed the rather terse installation manual.
I'd appreciate any hints that might help me resolve these problems.

1. How do I mount nfs volumes from other sun systems that are in our 
network? I get always the msg "unsupported file system type".
The entry on that remote machine in the /etc/fstab file for the filesystem 
contains e.g. "/usr/local 4.2 rw 1 2" - is this a wrong file type for my 
A/UX system? I should add, that my machine is listed in the remote hosts 
/etc/exports file.

2. Where can one find a description of the errorcodes that might
occur when running a fortran program, as e.g. "Exit 16"?

3. I'm using MacX to access the other unix and cray systems. How come 
that I can launch on my quadra all the x gadgets like xcalc but not xterm?
I always get the message "xterm: no available ptys"? 

Martin Heimann
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From: jaffe@calvin.ssc.gov (Mike Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: A/UX 3.0 Swap Space - How much is enough?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:21:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunova.1992Sep3.172158.16436
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory




> With that much memory, it's doubtful that you'll use any swap space
> at all. Of course, you _need_ to have Swap set aside.

> What kind of Swap use are you seeing since upgrading to 32MB?

swap -l provides the following:

path              dev  swaplo blocks   free
/dev/dsk/c1d0s1  25,1       0  28672  28672

Mike Jaffe (jaffe@sscvx1.ssc.gov)
SSC Laboratory     

The opinions expressed herein are solely my responsibility, and are not 
necessarily those of the SSC Lab nor the Department of Energy.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner)
Subject: Weird telnetd/rlogind problem (A/UX 3.0)
Reply-To: reuven@the-tech.mit.edu
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:09:01 GMT

I'm having some problems with telnetd and rlogind on my A/UX 3.0 box
(IIfx with 20 MB RAM and 160+80+80 MB hard drives).

Most of the time, we don't have any problems. But every so often, we
can't log in on ttyp0 (the default tty). Telnet sometimes times out,
sometimes gives me half a prompt, and sometimes lets me log in before
dying. Rlogin just times out. When this is happening, I can still ping
my machine just fine, and all background processes also seem to work.

The workaround that we've discovered (by accident) is to log into
ttyp0. While that is hung, we start up a second process into ttyp1,
which works fine. By the time the ttyp0 process times out and dies,
the second connection is working just fine.

Has anyone had similar problems with their machines?

Reuven
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: howard@titania.ultra.com (Howard Simonson)
Subject: Re: multiple monitors?
Reply-To: howard@ultra.com
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 04:59:12 GMT

In article <189@posix.COM>, hlj@posix.COM (Hal Jespersen) writes:
|> My old Supermac 19" is starting to fail [with age, I suppose] so that
|> scan lines in the top 1 cm are widely spaced and the menu bar is now
|> unreadable.  I imagine this is a relatively easy adjustment.  While
|> I get up my ambition to find a repair shop, I was wondering:
|> 
|> How well does A/UX 3.0 work with multiple monitors?  If I got a second
|> monitor (initially a backup while the first is in the shop), could I
|> reasonably run CommandShell in either or both?

Well, at work I'm currently using a SuperMac Spectrum III and the internal
video of the IIci with an Apple 12" Greyscale.  Two heads, no problem.
(I'm actively looking for a third :)

At home, I've got a SuperMac Spectrum II with a 19" color monitor (recent
acquisition as the grey scale started getting way to dim, and I got a
heck of a deal on the Sony in ComputerWare's parking lot :), coupled
with a RasterOps 364 board driving an Apple 13" color monitor.  Way back
when, A/UX 2.0 had some trouble supporting the RasterOps (actually, I
believe it was a RasterOps problem, fixed via new ROMs), but A/UX 3.0
has had no problems with the two heads, other than the fact that the live
video aspects of the 364 board are rendered useless under A/UX without a
driver to "make it work" (again, a RasterOps problem, I would say).

I believe I have found a bug or two with the handling of two different
bit depths under A/UX 3.0 (8 & 24 at home), but nothing really major.

|> Assuming the previous answers are affirmative, are there any known
|> incompatible B&W big screen monitors?  I have a IIx.

I'm sure there are some, but I haven't run into them lately/yet so I
can't identify any, perhaps someone else...

BTW, if you'd like to buy my old grey scale and do a picture tube
transplant from yours, I'm sure we could agree on some fair and 
equitable price for it.  (Its the old 60hz type circa Spectrum Series II)
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From: spencer@panix.com (David Spencer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Those PC-disk CDEVs
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:16:03 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:

>Since I have MacLinkPlus, I also have DOS Mounter 3.00. What this CDEV
>does, for those who are curious, is enable DOS floppies to appear on the
>Mac desktop - very nice. The thing is that it makes _all_ floppy disk
>access (under A/UX... the MacOS too) _very_ slow, whether it's a DOS
>disk or a Mac disk.

Yup. It sure does. It's slow enough on plain-vanilla macOS, though
it's much worse on a/ux. (And the floppy drive sounds like it's about
to die everytime you put in a disk.)

Which is why I switched to AccessPC. Mounts a <expletive deleted>
floppy as fast as a mac floppy. Transparent file manipulation. Doesn't
create lots of weird files and directories.  Works great with a/ux.

You should definitely switch. I still use MacLink for translations
(AccessPC works fine with MacLink, too). It took me awhile (and
actually having to RTFM) to figure out that MacLink has to reside on
the MacPartition: It needs some files with "/" in their names; they
have to either be in the System Folder (which obviously doesn't work
when running a/ux) or in the same folder as the MacLink application.
Hence they have to be on the MacPartition.

dhs   spencer@panix.com
From: parag@netcom.com (Parag Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Is anyone working on dynamic linking packages for AUX?
Keywords: dynamic linking dld gnu
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:43:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I wrote a dynamic linker which works on A/UX COFF 68k systems and on HP
s300/s400s.  I've looked at Wilson Ho's package, and it would be nice to
have a merged package.  Both the packages have similar but not entirely
identical feature sets.  Mine adds autoloading and supports C++/g++.
Drop me a note if you want it and I will email you the sources.


	-- Parag Patel <parag@Netcom.COM>
From: un032463@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: STILL MORE CRAZY PROBLEMS WITH MY IICI!!! PLEASE READ!!!!(HELP)
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:26:50 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Well, I am STILL out in the cold as to what the heck is wrong with my IIci!!

As per some of the requests I received, I checked my memory situation.  I 
ripped out all 20MB and used 4 2MB Sims....Same problem!  I cannot get passed
the stupid launching screen for A/UX!!

I guess ALL that is wrong now would be my SCSI port?!?  I cannot think of
anything else that could be wrong!  The IIsi that I installed A/UX on has
the EXACT same hard drive, 9MB of memory, I used MY CD_ROM drive & cable and
it worked like a charm.  Oh, of course his IIsi had a 68882 on it.

Does this sound like a SCSI problem with my IIci??  Why can't I repeat the
installation process on my IIci that worker on the IIsi!!  How can I test
my SCSI chain for problems?!?!?

O.K. maybe this will shed some light on my SCSI problems?!  Under A/UX, I 
cannot use/mount the CD-ROM at all!  I cannot even eject the sucker.  Yes, I
put the CD in BEFORE even turning on my IIci.  STrange, I can use the CD when
I am running just the bare 7.0.1 after boot up, but after that NOTHING!  Is 
there ANY program that I can use to test/evaluate my problem?!

As far as Apple is concerned, my problem has been ESCALATED and sent to the
engineers.  I guess that is that.  Oh well, you netters are my LAST hope!

								Mike Manzo
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: parag@netcom.com (Parag Patel)
Subject: Re: Reporting bugs in A/UX
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 22:42:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I bought A/UX 3.0, and while it comes with 1 year's "free" telephone
support, I've found them to be largely useless.  I called them about 2
problems.

The first is an annoying bug in the Apple CD-150 and/or SCSI driver,
which appears to be attempting to write to the CD-ROM drive when a CD is
re-inserted.  The first time a CD is inserted, it works fine.  The 2nd
time, I get a console message about a SCSI error when the stupid driver
appears to be trying to write on the CD-ROM.  They told me that there's
nothing that it's a ROM problem in the CD-150 and it's just something to
live with.

The second problem is still getting the SFGetFile() and SFPutFile() Mac
toolbox calls to work from the A/UX environment.  I tried everything,
and my sample program compiles and runs fine under MPW, Think C, and
A/UX 2.0.1.  However, it always crashes under A/UX 3.0.  It's very
likely that I'm doing something wrong, but nothing I've tried works.

Apple support told me that they don't support technical stuff and I'd
have to purchase developer support to get any help for this problem.  So
much for the 1 year's "free" support.  (I guess that there are folk who
buy A/UX for something other than software development, but I can't
imagine why since they would be better off under plain Sys7 anyway.)

Feh.  I've never called them back.


	-- Parag Patel <parag@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: gpb@gpb-mac. (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: MacTCP and A/UX 3.0....
Organization: SPS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:11:26 GMT

jpost@llnl.gov (John C. Post) writes:
: I have just installed A/UX 3.0 on my Quadra 950, and can't seem to figure out 
: where to put the address of my nameserver, so I don't have to have every IP 
: number I need memorized...any help?
: 

Fast answer:  /etc/resolv.conf

Looks like this:

domain  sps.mot.com
nameserver 192.55.22.4
nameserver 192.55.22.5


note the spelling of resolv.conf  NO e IN RESOLVE!!

Have fun.

--
Greg Berryman       gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com
Motorola Inc.       Austin Texas
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Reporting bugs in A/UX
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:01:05 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Sep2.054029.7176@panix.com> alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen) writes:
>
>Apple has already blown it in the Unix market so badly that there's no chance
>they'll ever succeed, unless possibly the PowerRISC machine is an incredible
>hit. One of the reasons for this is that they don't behave like a "big Unix
>vendor" ought to. And bug reports are a prime example of this kind of problem.

Ah ha, can not agree more on this.  

>A/UX's biggest problem is that they work so hard on future versions that they
>never have time for the current version. This has been true since V1.0. The
>probable cause of this is a significant lack of manpower.
>
How strange.  When I got A/UX 2.01, I noticed a photo full of men and
women cheering at you.  Where have those people been? :-)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (David W. Tamkin)
Subject: Re: How to empty a file
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:15:48 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

digdon@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mike Digdon) wrote in <BtLLps.But@cs.dal.ca>:

| You could also do:
| 
| 	echo > logfile

That will not leave an empty file; the file will contain one newline and
nothing else, but it won't be empty.

If you'd like to use echo, you have to suppress the newline: usually that
means 

echo "\c" > logfile     # in Sys V     or
echo -n > logfile       # in BSD.      but 
: > logfile             # is shorter to type and, so other posters say,
						# works even in shells where
> logfile               # doesn't.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
From: dtb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (David Bath)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
Subject: Re: Portability of ASCII across Unixes
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:53:08 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

I seem to remember problems with Pr1me boxes and "pascii"
(whas it prime-ascii or puke-ascii?)
add 0200 to EVERYTHING because parity bits were always on
(so what was the point of it ?)
And so where is Pr1me now ? ....

========================================================================
David T. Bath
email: 	dtb@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Work: 	Global Technology Corporation, Carlton, Vic, OZ  (03) 3477511
=======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
From: boyd@prl.dec.com (Boyd Roberts)
Subject: Re: Help with directories!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:45:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.153123.21234@news.eng.convex.com>, tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes:
> 
> What do you propose as a solution to what I perceive as wasted bytes?
> Shall we add it to the FAQ?  Shall we post the FAQ biweekly or more,
> or maybe its TOC weekly, with a pointer to how to get it?  Shall we 
> institude a USENET Oracularities mail-in-your-questions system for
> UNIX questions?
> 

No, we should all just post our office phone numbers, so those
too lazy to RTF documentation, manuals and newsgroups can ring up.


Boyd Roberts			boyd@prl.dec.com

``When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro...''
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
From: ahlenius@rtsg.mot.com (Mark Ahlenius)
Subject: Problem with ksh & history file
Summary: Problem with ksh in several xterm windows with unique history files
Keywords: ksh histfile
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:00:21 GMT

I am having a problem still with ksh on our Sys VR3 machine
(Motorola 88k Delta box). The version of ksh we are running is
11/16/88g.

I have it set up via my .kshrc file to have separate history files
for each xterminal window I have open.

Because I log into various machines, I use the machine name and
the last couple of characters from the tty name as the history file
name.

Thus I have:

term=$(tty)
MACHINE=$(hostname)
HISTFILE=${HOME}./$MACHINE${term#/dev/tty}
export MACHINE HISTFILE

...

The problem is that this works fine for a while, then all of a sudden,
I either cannot recall anything from the history buffer, or the history
buffers for the two (or more) xterm windows are the same.  The later case
being that I will recall commands typed in the other xterm window, instead
of the ones typed in the same window.

Has anyone else seen this problem, or perhaps know what I might be doing
wrong?

email preferred.

thanks

'mark

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
From: snk@fork.bae.bellcore.com (Samuel Kamens)
Subject: Re: Need rot13 script
Reply-To: snk@bae.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:19:01 GMT

In article <36915@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, kcw@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Ken Whedbee) writes:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> Can somebody send me a simple shell script that can convert a
> text file back and forth between rot13 ?
> 
> Many thanx!
> 

Read the man page for the "tr" command.

Here's the command to do what you want:

tr [a-m][A-M][n-z][N-Z] [n-z][N-Z][a-m][A-M] < inputfile > outputfile

Bear in mind that your tr may differ a bit -- this works on my Sparc
IPX, SunOS 4.1.1.

Sam


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell
From: gaier@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Karsten Gaier)
Subject: TCSH: completions for talk ?
Keywords: tcsh, completions
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:04:37 GMT

Hi, 

are there more intelligent completions for talk possible ?
I want something like:

     > talk @[TAB]
     ws1 ws2 ws3 ws4 
     > talk @ws3
     > talk @ws3[TAB]
     user1 user2 user3 user4
     > talk user1@ws3

One problem is, that when i manage to get the workstations, i don't
get the users. I use something like:

    complete talk \
	c/@/\$hosts/ \
	c/@*/\`finger\ \$:1\ \|\ awk\ \'\{print\ \$1\ \}\'\ \|\ sort\ -u\ \`/ \
	p/1/\`finger\ \$:1\ \|\ awk\ \'\{print\ \$1\ \}\'\ \|\ sort\ -u\ \`/ \

any hints ?

ciao, Karsten
Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell