HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: Custom setups: RFD
Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:00:25 GMT

May I suggest that instead of describing in long and careful detail how
to fix the failed patch hunks in swap.c, you simply provide a new patch
file which doesn't fail?  I suspect it would take up less room than your
description, and would be simpler for most people to do.

As to your point about a configuration process, I agree with you.  Linux
is rapidly approaching the point where it could really use a
/usr/etc/config program ala BSD to build its Makefile.  Although I
haven't had the time in a while to do any kernel hacking in a while
(unfortunately, sigh....) I will note that the config program is freely
available in /packages/bsd-sources/usr.sbin/config on ftp.uu.net.
Perhaps someone would be willing to take a whack at adapting it for
Linux?  If not, when I manage to find some time I'll look into it.

							- Ted
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Digests
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:39:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr8.043952.23843
Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet


   From: thomas dunbar <GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
   Reply-To: GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
   Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:07:01 GMT

   why do most items in the Linux Digests appear twice?

Articles are appearing twice in the Linux Digest because of a bug in C
News which does not handle aliased groups correctly.  (I currently have
in my aliases file: "alt.os.linux 0000002200 02083 =comp.os.linux"; this
will not last long.)

It's been enough time since comp.os.linux has been created.  I propose
we rmgroup alt.os.linux, since all sites which have alt.os.linux should
have created comp.os.linux by now.  Any objections?

							- Ted
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: GCC V2.x now available from tsx-11
Reply-To: tytso@athena.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:40:21 GMT

TSX-11 now mirrors the GCC V2 directory on banjo.concert.net.  The
directory is: ~ftp/pub/linux/mirrors/GCCv2

						- Ted
Xref: sparky alt.os.linux:2421 comp.os.linux:341
From: cheetah@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bowen Goletz)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problems with serial port drivers??
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:56:39 GMT
Followup-To: alt.os.linux
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <LILJEBER.92Apr11124027@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> liljeber@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg) writes:
>In article <65178@apple.Apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) wrote:
>> Has anyone seen any problems with the serial port drivers under
>> linux?  I'm running 0.95a and am having a hard time making uucp fly
>> at 9600 baud and above, either straight through or with a modem.
>
>occurs. The surest way to effect this is to compile something on another
>console (thank God I don't need swap in order to use the compiler!).
>I even have a 16550AN UART chip, and it doesn't help at all (does anyone
>know, if the serial driver supports 16550 fifos?).

I have a 16550 on my second serial port and have major problems with Linux
grabbing incomming data.  I have a modem connected to the port, and I 
see that characters are sent, but I never see any echo.  The modem
lights for RX bink on command completion (eg, OK), but kermit does
not show modem response.  Ideas?

	-bg

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Bowen Goletz
Purdue University                  Midi 'n Music
cheetah@sage.cc.purdue.edu         Bowen.Goletz@f120.n201.z1.Fidonet.Org
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)
Subject: diff for gcc 2.1 beta
Originator: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 08:06:43 GMT

Hi,

I was just informed I should make some change to the libraries. Here
is a diff for libc.a 2.1. If you can apply this diff, please do get a
new 2.1misc.tar.Z.

BTW, please wait for a new hours. I am uploading them now.

H.J.
------gcc 2.1 diff-----
*** compiler/lib/time/Makefile.old	Mon Apr  6 02:03:35 1992
--- compiler/lib/time/Makefile	Mon Apr  6 01:19:33 1992
***************
*** 8,14 ****
  AS	=/usr2/linux/cross/bin/as
  LD	=/usr2/linux/cross/bin/ld
  LDFLAGS	=-s -x
! TIME_FLAGS=-DTZ='"/usr/lib/zoneinfo"'
  CC	=/usr2/linux/cross/bin/gcc -B/usr2/linux/cross/lib/gcc-
  CC	=/local/bin/gcc-i386-linux -DPRE_GCC_2
  INC	=-nostdinc -I. -I/usr2/linux/src/libc/include \
--- 8,14 ----
  AS	=/usr2/linux/cross/bin/as
  LD	=/usr2/linux/cross/bin/ld
  LDFLAGS	=-s -x
! TIME_FLAGS=-DTZDIR='"/usr/lib/zoneinfo"'
  CC	=/usr2/linux/cross/bin/gcc -B/usr2/linux/cross/lib/gcc-
  CC	=/local/bin/gcc-i386-linux -DPRE_GCC_2
  INC	=-nostdinc -I. -I/usr2/linux/src/libc/include \
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: allredkl@choc01.dnet.dupont.com (Kevin L. Allred, 615-875-7167)
Subject: RE: Linux-Activists Digest #38
Reply-To: allredkl@choc01.dnet.dupont.com (Kevin L. Allred, 615-875-7167)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:39:28 GMT

burley@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Craig Burley) writes:

| I suggest you ftp to research.att.com, login as netlib (I think;
| maybe it's anonymous ftp, but I think they changed that), get f2c
| from ~dist/f2c or some such place, and use that to compile your
| Fortran code for use on Linux.

You can also mail a request to netlib with the following syntax:

	mailsize 1000000
	send index from f2c
	send all from f2c/src
	send fc from f2c
	send libf77 from f2c
	send libi77 from f2c

You may need to adjust the mailsize number if your mailer can't
handle such big chunks.

You will probably receive the files within a few minutes if you
are on a fast link to netlib.  Each reply will be a shell archive
that you can extract inside Linux.  The index file will explain
about the rest.

| If nobody seems to have gotten f2c ported to Linux by the time I
| get Linux working on my machine, I'll do it myself and let people
| know what changes, if any, need to be made.  I doubt it'll be
| much; I've gotten f2c running on two 68k machines (HP and NeXT)
| and a Sun4 with a trivial amount of work. (On the other hand, I
| haven't run a whole lot of Fortran code through it anywhere,
| yet.) --

It was almost effortless to build it as delivered, but I did need
to have a complete set of include files from the KERNEL
distribution to do it.  The only problem I had was with
reconciling a couple of the include files (seems there hasn't
been complete continuity retained between the 0.12 set and the
0.95 set).  After a short amount of work (30 min), I had a
working F2C -- sorry I don't have diffs to post.  My only
problem, has been with GCC 1.40, as the -l parameter doesn't seem
to work correctly, and the F2C libraries never get accessed at
link time.  I have to explicitly list the libraries to
successfully link.  For example:

	f2c test.f
	gcc -c test.c
	gcc -o test test.c /usr/lib/libF77.a /usr/lib/libI77.a

works, but:

	f2c test.f
	gcc -o test -lF77 -lI77 test.c

doesn't.  I sure hope the GCC 2.0 release works better.
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: thomas dunbar <GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: linux 0.95c+ keymap
Reply-To: GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:49:50 GMT

It's great to be able to use my printer with linux now. Thanks, Linus,
for posting the patched kernel.
  I find that when i use the new kernel i have to change my emacs init
file since the cursor keys now have keycodes that start with ESC-O
rather than ESC-[. what change in the kernel caused this?
From: tytso@athena.mit.edu (Theodore Y. Ts'o)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Meta-Question
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:39:48 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr10.173427.15796@cs.cornell.edu> murthy@cs.cornell.edu (Chet Murthy) writes:
>  What relation does Linux have to the GNU  Hurd Project?
>  Essentially, what I'm trying to figure out, is why all
>  this work on Linux is being done in what seems complete
>  disconnection from GNU, when the aims of this group,
>  and GNU in general, are almost identical.

Well, Linux is being distributed under the GNU GPL, and most of its
utilities are the GNU utilities, including the GNU C compiler and the
GNU shell bash.  Other than that, not much.

One big difference between Linux and GNU Hurd is that Linux works now.
In fact, Linux was the first working free Unix to be generally
available.  Hurd can (sort of) boot and be useful, but it's not very
stable at all.  While Linux is hardly commercial production quality,
it's stable enough for a large number of people to do development, which
is simply not true of the other free Unix systems out there.

The big difference between Hurd and Linux is that Hurd is Big.  (At the
very least, it has been Architected Big.)  If you wish, think of Hurd as
GNU Emacs, and think of Linux as /bin/ed or vi.  Seen in this light, it
is hardly surprising that Linux has reached stability first, despite the
fact that the people at GNU have been working on Hurd for longer than
Linus has been working on Linux.

While Hurd will eventually have many more features than Linux, it is not
clear how much disk space or memory will be required to run it.  And for
most people, those extra features may or may not be useful.  Time will
tell.

As for the BSD 386, from what I can tell from other people's reports (I
have not tried running BSD 386 yet myself), Linux is slightly more
stable, but only slightly.  BSD 386 has the advantage that (except for
the 386/AT&T-free modules which were newly written), the majority of it
is vintage code, which should be pretty robust.  It's disadvantages are:
it's big; it doesn't have shared libraries; it wants to take over your
entire hard disk (Linux and DOS can co-exist on the same hard disk; BSD
can not); it doesn't have SCSI drivers (yet).  It's one big, big, big
advantage is: It has networking in the kernel already.  For people with
Ethernet cards, things like FTP at close to 100Kbytes/second and NFS are
very big draws.

I think Linux has a place, but I think the one thing it needs fast is
networking code in the kernel.  (That, and X11 :-) This features will
eventually come, but hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.  Is
anyone working on networking in the kernel right now?  I know there were
a few people interested in it, but I don't know if any of them are still
working on it.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Theodore Ts'o				bloom-beacon!mit-athena!tytso
308 High St., Medford, MA 02155		tytso@athena.mit.edu
   Everybody's playing the game, but nobody's rules are the same!
Xref: sparky alt.os.linux:2476 comp.os.linux:400
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problems with serial port drivers??
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:31:13 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <LILJEBER.92Apr11124027@kruuna.Helsinki.FI> liljeber@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg) writes:

>forking a new process, I don't know. It's annoying all the same.

It's more than annoying -- I'm running a Telebit modem, and I get about
1MB of stuff a day through.  I've had to drop down to 2400 baud with
another modem to get it to consistently work.  It's only a matter of time
until the sysadmin upstream finds out that I'm talking to him at 2400
baud and blows a gasket :)
-- 
Ed Carp  N7EKG/6	erc@khijol.UUCP		erc@apple.com
			Cupertino, CA		415/336-0797

-- Absolutely unabashed Gates McFadden groupie! --
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: ziggy@grafted.UUCP (anthony lewis)
Subject: MGR and Mountain tapes.
Organization: GRAFTED, Central Indiana's Usenet BBS 317-881-4369
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:48:31 CST

Hi all, I jut got access to the group, so please excuse repeates.. but,
Has anyone thought of porting MGR yet? Also how about 40mb mountain 
drives?

        Anyway, I just uant to add my 'attaboy' to Linus.....

                                        Ziggy.

--
anthony lewis
The Grafted Branch BBS
317-881-4369
internet: ziggy@grafted.UUCP
uucp: ..!uunet!grafted.UUCP!ziggy
 = = Grafted Branch BBS (317) 889-6997 2 Gig on-line = =
From: harvard!ames!amdcad!yarc!scott@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Scott Beckstead)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re:  Linux-Activists Digest #56
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:04:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr14.010424.14131
Reply-To: harvard!ames!amdcad!yarc!scott@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Scott Beckstead)
Organization: The Internet


   Would someone send me the diffs (only) for gcc/gpp 2.0 for linux as a host?
I am trying to get a crosscompiler working and I need those diffs to start
my compliation (not wanting to re-invent the wheel) This will be for internal
use only and will never be released.  I do not have FTP access and there is
some urgency (read desperation) to this request.  I have 2.0 running under
0.95a and all is co-pacetic.  I just put the source (aquired thru mail) on
the system and would like to get to work ASAP.
Thanks
Scott
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:00:10 -0400 
From: "Demian A. Johnston" <dj1l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Arrow keys and emacs

I saw it posted here not too long ago a few lines to add to one's .emacs
file to let you use the arrow keys with emacs ???  Could someone repost
that?


                                                  Demian 
                                              --->  daj+@cmu.edu
                                              --->  dj1l@andrew.cmu.edu
                                              --->  demianjn@ids.jvnc.net

Xref: sparky alt.os.linux:2321 comp.os.linux:226
From: wang-i@acsu.buffalo.edu (Haohui Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: problem compiling kernel...
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:15:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr7.181541.4889
Organization: UB

In article <5258@pdxgate.UUCP> moyerg@jove.cs.pdx.edu (gary a moyer) writes:
>Has anyone gotten the following error when compiling
>the kernel:
>(compiling fork.c..)
>caught fatal signal 6 (??!!?)
>
>Has anyone else had this happen on the way to a kernel build ?
>
>               Thx.  moyerg@cs.pdx.edu

Same here.  Can anyone who compiled kernel post a summary or something?

thanks 

howie
From: ccx062@cov.ac.uk (Chris Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: bootimage
Keywords: patching ?
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:53:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Services, Coventry Polytechnic

Where (as in binary offset) in the new boot image (0.95c+) do we patch it to 
use the hard disk as a root image ??

	-Chris

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Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Subject: jipped zip!
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:04:20 GMT

I just went to all the trouble to get zip10ex.bin.tar.Z, and I was surprised
to find that now I have to get the unzip-41.bin.tar.Z (2 day delay cause of 
ftpmail!)

I have a question about tex: does it work for plain old dot-matrix printers?

Also, is X public domain, or is it commercial?

Is it possible to write a dos-emulator under Linux(you know, kinda like
Soft-PC under Mac)?

I have seen a couple of references to mice(mouses?) lately in the digests,
is there a driver for a mouse for Linux? if so, where can I get it?

Also, is there ANY other ftpmail server other than decwrl?
(decwrl is nice, but sometimes I have to ask for a file 4-5 times before
the transfer is successful.)

well, nuff said for tonite.  :-)

jim gifford
jgifford@attmail.com
 ...!uunet!attmail.com!jgifford
From: kxb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Karl R. Buck)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: GCC2.1 (Wonderful !)
Date: 14 Apr 1992 19:00:53 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson) writes:


>Please, don't consider 1.40 retired -- It is smaller -- Not all the
>features, and I am _very_ glad that 2.x is out, and I am sure that I
>will switch some day.  But right now I want something small, and I
>simply don't yet need 2.x's features.  I don't think that I am
>alone...

I'm not sure about this, but once you have completely recompiled
everything to use shared libs, you should have a savings in disk
space.

Does anyone have any figures on how much space is saved when using
shared libraries?
-- 
Karl Buck, kxb@matt.ksu.edu 	:)
From: jrs@galactus.cs.hut.fi (Johan Rudolf Sundstr|m)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: bootimage-0.95c+.scsi corrupt at nic.funet.fi ??
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:43:43 GMT
Reply-To: jrs@niksula.hut.fi (Johan Rudolf Sundstr|m)
Distribution: alt
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

The bootimage-0.95c+.scsi at nic.funet.fi is corrupt. The offset 508 and
509 ( in the bootsector )is supposed to be 00 00 if you want to load Linux
from floppies. As I have an Adaptec drive this was the first chance for Linux 
to read my HD. Linux didn't found any root in the device 03 01(offset 509 and 
508 in my image originally). Well, it worked find when I corrected the mistake.
I guess the pearson who did send the image was tired and didn't remember to 
change these bits. 

					jrs@niksula.cs.hut.fi
--

   jrs@niksula.cs.hut.fi               Skit happens all the time 
   jrs@vipunen.hut.fi                   and then you marry one!
   d39139w@taltta.hut.fi
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: Meta-Question
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:04:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.173427.15796@cs.cornell.edu> murthy@cs.cornell.edu (Chet Murthy) writes:
>Please do not misunderstand this question.  I am very much 
>in favor of what Linux is about.  What Ihave been wondering, though,
>as I watch this group, and see the activity, and wish I had a laptop
>to run Linux on, is this:

>  What relation does Linux have to the GNU  Hurd Project?

None, really.  The GNU Hurd is a POSIXized BSDish set of servers built
on top of the Mach 3.0 kernel, as I understand it.  Linux is a
POSIXized System Vish kernel, built from scratch.  (With a bit of
Minix influence....)

>  Essentially, what I'm trying to figure out, is why all
>  this work on Linux is being done in what seems complete
>  disconnection from GNU, when the aims of this group,
>  and GNU in general, are almost identical.

They are almost identical in the ends (free unix!), but the means are
quite different, as I see it.  GNU has fairly limited development team
working on the Hurd.  Linux has been available publically since almost
the beginning, and is going through a much wider, but less formalized,
alpha/beta testing process.

>(Of course, I mght be mistaken about that, but I think I saw
>where Linus had written that he didn't want people to hoard
>source code, or prevent its free dissemination, which, in a sense,
>is the central spirit of GNU)

It is, but the FSF does it in more of a business-like way.  They put
out real applications/utilities for widespread use.  As Linux stands
now, it is primarily a hacker's OS, and that's how it started.

Linux is, however, headed in the direction of widespread use.  You can
watch the activity in comp.os.linux and alt.os.linux and see the
number of people looking for "real" applications (spreadsheets,
databases) that would be necessary outside of the hacker's domain.

I don't know if I answered your questions very directly (or
correctly), but this is what Linux means to me, and seems to mean to a
vast number of people.
-- 
Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)    | "Catch a fish!"
Harvey Mudd College            |  -Geddy Lee,
jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU |   San Diego Sports Arena
Disclaimer: Mine, not theirs!  |   January 20, 1992
Xref: sparky alt.os.linux:2333 comp.os.linux:232
From: erik@pdnfido.fidonet.org (erik vanriper)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: IBM PS/2 Model 70
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:03:06 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source - BayShore NY

Hello all!  

        I have a "half a computer" at work that I have tried to boot up with 
Linux (0.95c) on a floppy, but to no avail.  I get the initial "loading", 
get to the screen asking me what video mode I want, (does not matter what I 
enter at this point), and everything dies.  

        If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it.


--
erik@pdnfido.fidonet.org (erik vanriper)
The Source for Source -- +1 516 968 7824
From: GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (thomas dunbar)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ksh in linux
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:15:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr8.181539.19101
Reply-To: GSTD@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Organization: The Internet

bash is not ksh but similar
 the default editing mode is emacs, pressing M-C-j (esc ctrl-j) switches
to vi-editing-mode ( C-e switches to back to emacs style)
   or at the shell prompt use:

      set -o vi
      set -o emacs
man.tar.Z has man-pages on bash (GNU's Bourne-Again SHell).
From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: compress and tar, fixed, at tsx-11
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:16:12 GMT
Reply-To: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Organization: The Internet


OK, for everyone having trouble with tar &/| compress, read this:

              --- Please Post as Binaries ---

These are compress and tar compiled using GCC 2.1 from fresh sources
from prep.ai.mit.edu. They use the static libraries and should run on
most versions of Linux.

These should definately fix the problems people have been having with
bad tars and compresses.

I have tested this tar + compress against tar + compress as done on a
RS/6000 box and have found no differences in the extracted files.

Just to make sure, using sum or cksum -o 1 gives
        37922   54  compress
        09607   329 tar

Enjoy!

        jim wiegand -- v5068u@vm.temple.edu -- jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu
        
These files have been installed as
tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin/compress
tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin/tar

they have not been compressed or tarred, for obvious chicken & egg
reasons.

enjoy.


BTW, also tcsh 6.01 has been put in the same directory.  Enjoy!

michaelkjohnson
johnsonm@stolaf.edu
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: claris!wet!dhl%netcom.com@apple.com (Dahai Li)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Too many duplicated messages
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:25:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr15.142501.27834
Reply-To: claris!wet!dhl%netcom.com@apple.com (Dahai Li)
Organization: The Internet

For the past week, there are many duplicated messages appearing in the
linux-digests. And I did notice some one complained about it. However, I
don's see any reponse, and they keep on coming.

Can we do something about it? Like screen out the duplicates when grouping
the digests.

(what is the reason for this duplications? People send copies to two Linux
news group: alt.os.linux, and comp.os.linux?)

Dahai
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: GCC2.1 (Wonderful !)
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:42:25 GMT
Reply-To: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Organization: The Internet

From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu -- Graduate Student)

   It seems that gcc 2.1 can run with 2MB RAM. I think it's the time we
   retire gcc 1.40. Lots of problems about kernel and gcc 2.1 are related
   to the old gcc 1.40. With gcc 2.1, we can use the shared libs as the
   standard. So we can squeeze more stuffs into rootimage. I really miss
   bash. I had to copy it from 0.12 rootimage.

Please, don't consider 1.40 retired -- It is smaller -- Not all the
features, and I am _very_ glad that 2.x is out, and I am sure that I
will switch some day.  But right now I want something small, and I
simply don't yet need 2.x's features.  I don't think that I am
alone...

When there is a _reason_ to switch (like there is a feature of 2.x
that will help kernel development, or something like that) then let's
"retire" 1.40

My $.01 cent worth.  Ok, my $005 cent worth ;-)

michaelkjohnson
johnsonm@stolaf.edu