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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Subject: Re: GOD I HATE MIAMI!!! Yes, the TEGGER is Back
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:48:43 GMT

In article <l7e7tuINN3ea@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> str@maredsous.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 27515@makesys.com, john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>%In article <1992Jul24.143508.24759@cci632.cci.com> teg@cci632.cci.com (Thomas Gauger) writes:
>%>
>%>GOD I LOVE FOOTBALL
>%>GOD I HATE MIAMI!!!!!
>
>[ and other Tegger-like stuff ]
>
>%Oh no just when I thought the world was rid of Buffoonalonians we get this :~)
>%YYYYUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK. That's alright though the Dolphins, Patriots, Jets and
>%Colts will all get their revenge on the billy boys this year. Go big Dolphins!
>%
>%Super Bowl in 93, 16-0 in 92.
>%
>%John "Dolphinatic" Turman
>
>Uh, John, welcome to rec.sport.football.pro.  Ever heard of The Mad Dolfan?
>Sit back, relax, and read Tegger's posts for their entertainment value.
>Don't blame him or other Buffalo fans if you start taking him seriously.
>
>-todd


That's right Todd. Don't take TEG seriously... Hee Hee Hee. He is
lower case challenged. Poor man... A father no less. 

Tony (go new england) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
From: rdale@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Dale)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Roto Leagues?
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:28:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Are there any Internet-based roto/fantasy football leagues forming
up this year?

Rob
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From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Subject: Re: Browns News - July 20th
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:50:30 GMT


In a previous article, bcborg@mbunix.mitre.org (Borgeson) says:

>I'm still concerned about the defense as well.  I'm sure Belichick
>will get as much out of them as he can.  Some of the questions I have
>are: What kind of speed will there be in the secondary and at linebacker
>(we got killed on a couple of occasions last year)?  I still think
>the pass rush needs work.  Perry's injury throws more risk into the
>picture, although I think that as long as his injury is not too
>serious, he'll probably be in playing shape very soon after returning.

MDP shot his mouth off in this morning's newspaper about how he's
unhappy.  He's signed through 1993 and hoping for free agency...

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===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============
From: jorgand@sumax.seattleu.edu (Dave Jorgan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Seattle News
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:34:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.4784
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <1992Jul22.213803.4508@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>Am I missing something or is Derrick Fenner no longer a Seahawk? If he is still
>with the team why is he not regarded as a quality RB? I've been impressed with
>his running ability, am I the only one? I know one thing I'd love to see the
>guy in a Dolphins uniform. I don't know why Seahawks fans on the net don't
>talk about Fenner. Did he die or something? Inquisitive minds want to know.
>
>John
>-- 
>The opinions expressed here are sole property of the author and are not
>the opinions of Make Systems or any other entity. What a shame.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>John "Dolphinatic" Turman


	He was made available in Plan B, so if the Dolphins had wanted him they
could have had him. He does in fact have fine running ability, but while in his 
1st two seasons he was humble and worked hard, after he had his good 1990
season and got a new, bigger contract, he seemed to lose his fire and toughness
in direct proportion to his ego. He did not run hard, and was out of shape
early in the season.

	Most backs would have had a tough time behind the feeble Seahawk
offensive line, to be sure, but what irritated Knox was Fenner's reluctance
to take on tacklers and square his body to the line of scrimmage. Too often
he was taken down by one tackler, which is not what you expect of a 6'3",
230 pound back. Also, he seemed a step slow turning the corner on the sweep,
probably a factor of his conditioning. The Seahawks wouldn't be overly down
on him based strictly on performance- they knew their line was terrible. But
the tentative efforts Fenner gave on each carry soured the staff and front
office on him.

	In shape and motivated, Fenner has excellent talent. He has that 
great size plus good speed, and he's a excellent athelete who can jump well
and did things like hurdle tacklers. Last year he just ducked his head
and went down with ease when hit, he didn't drag anyone with him. Cinncinatti
signed Fenner, and if he's in shape and ready, they'll have a guy who can
handle the full time running load. He's a good reciever too.


Dave Jorgand
From: brianh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Brian Huddleston)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys training camp [3. RB's]
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:46:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

>I'll appreciate it if the more informed fans inform us about the RB's
>at the camp:
>
>    (1) E. Smith... I do not have questions about him, but can any RB
>        in camp produce if Smith is injured?
 
Well, that's the $64,000 question.  I think probably Blake could produce at RB
if not replace Emmitt.  However...
 
>    (2) R. Blake... I read that his hip is 100%, is showing any
>        flashes in camp?
 
Rickey Blake failed his physical at the beginning of training camp.  He's
currently on the Physically Unable to Perform list and I don't think he's done
any football related working out yet.  I believe I heard that he'll be out
until at least the 4th game of the regular season.  That's a shame Blake looked
like quite a back last year.
 
>
>    (3) C. Richards... heard that he is playing poorly.
 
Well...he's no Emmitt certainly, but he did have a good game in one of the
scrimmages against the Oilers I believe.
 
>    (4) D. Jonston... is he learning anything other than blocking?
 
Don't forget pass catching. :)
 
>    (5) T. Agee... can he do anything special?
 
Agee is a decent pass receiver and he's more of runner than Daryl Johnston.
He may be the one that actually ends up backing up Emmitt Smith, at least that
was the role he played last year after Blake got hurt.  Like I said, he's a
decent runner.  Saw him put a juke move on Lawrence Taylor in a crucial third
down situation in a Giants game last year.
 
>
>Thanks.... AAA.....
 
Hmm...now I wonder how many of those names I mispelled?
 
brianh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: 32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer depth chart starters
Date: 31 Jul 92 02:23:29 GMT
Organization: Central Michigan University

In article <1992Jul30.182456.29793@macc.wisc.edu>, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN
HEIM ) says:
>
>In article <1992Jul30.132915.2038@cis.ohio-state.edu>,
>martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes...
>
>>In article <92211.21132432BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
><32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>>
>>>This position suits his athletic ability very well.  Can you imagine the
>>>safeties reactions to this 6-5 320lb monster sprinting out at him running a
>>>4.7 fourty on a power sweep.
>>
>>Where did you hear of Mandarich running a 4.7 40?  He's fast for
>>his size, but I've never heard a claim like this.
>
>I never heard this either.  But Ron Hallstrom ran a 4.75 40 in, hmmmm,
>1980 maybe?  I remember because at the time I calculated how much
>horsepower this represents.  I've forgotten what I came up with and
>even how to recalculate it.  I based the calculations on 300lbs going
>40 yds in 4.75 seconds (assuming constant accelleration).
>
>JGH


Tony Mandarich was timed at 4.69 in the fourty during the 1989 scouting combine
.  This number in widely known and can found on the back of many of his
football cards and was also discussed in the 1989 Sports Illustrated issue on
him.  In that issue it is hypothesied that he is the fastest man ever at his
weight.  Yep, 4.69 in the fourty - hard to believe but very true.
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Idea for Pool (spreads)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:26:47 GMT

Someone just sent me what I think is a great idea for the pool.  Please
comment.

"If you decide not to go with the spreads you also might want to try to
let the individual people weight each game from 1 to #games that week.
The weight will be the number of points awarded for a correct pick."

In other words, you take the pick you are most confident about and give
it 14 points.  Take the one you are least confident about and give it
one point.  Then give the other 12 games the other 12 values (assuming
there were 14 games that week).  Thus you could score as many as 105
points if you got all the games correct.

I really like this idea, please let me know what you think!  (again,
respond to this post or mail with "spreads" in the subject)

-- 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer depth chart starters
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:30:51 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Jul30.153608.26514@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes...

>In article <92211.21132432BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:
>>
>>>HB:   Vincent Workman
>>
>>I am hoping for real big things from Pookie this year.  He has the recieving
>>skills and I believe he is going to  ^^^^^^
>>
>      Cute!

That's his nickname - Pookie.

>   Overall, a little too much wishful thinking. They could win 6 or 7
>   games if they start off well. 

Yeah, 6 or 7 maybe.  Let's see that would be 2 wins against the Bears, 
one each against TB, Minn, and the Lions.  Plus 1 or 2 elsewhere.

JGH
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana still "tired"
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:28:38 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <55498@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> donehoo@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Doyle Donehoo) writes:
>Yesterday in the interview, Montana seemed to be saying the soreness
>and tiredness was unrelated to the operation, and the problems he has
>been having was from overwork to an arm not yet used to it.
>

It could obviously be from overwork, but there is another obvious possiblity
that anybody who's familiar with sports injuries might think of. That is
its almost always the case that when overcoming a throwing injury, you tend
to change your motion to "compensate" for the injury. this frequently leads
to a whole different injury occurring. This is so common in baseball that
many teams won't let minor leaguers coming off major surgery throw until
they're 100% healthy because they won't to avoid thes "compensation" injuries.
If this is the case with Montana, at his age, with past medical history,
he could very well be done.





Russ Smith
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"Why do we call it a near miss, when we really mean a near hit?"
******************************************************************************





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From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Subject: Dallas Kickers...
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:19:30 GMT

From rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu Tue Jul 21 05:47:38 1992
In article <1992Jul20.220945.23505@aero.org> you write:
>
>3) Brad Daluiso has been outpunting Mike Saxon for distance.  His
>cannon leg (while not all that accurate yet) is something new
>for Valley Ranchers to behold.  He has several 60+ FG during
>practice, but is having a harder time during scrimmages.  He has
>two misses AND two blocks, one of which was blocked by "Big
>Leon" Lett.  One of his misses ended up closer to the sideline
>than to the goalposts...

Let's hope he can control some of that kicking power.  It will be
nice to have a K who can boom kickoffs into the endzone, but I hope
we don't have to sweat out every 35 yard FG.

>4) Lin Elliot (Texas Tech), the other PK, has the other problem.
>   Apparently Lin's nickname could be "golf chip" because of the
>  soft touch on his attempts.  Very soft and very short...
>    *sigh*

Yup, two kickers on opposite ends of the spectrum.  I think Daluiso
will win the job, but I bet JJ will be scouring the waiver wire to
see if some other team cuts a K.


More News on the Kickers!!	

How about some hard numbers from the scrimmage on Sunday?

             44 yards      49 yards       53 yards
Daluiso       2-3           0-4             1-3          3-10
Elliot        1-3           3-3             2-3          6-9

Elliot apparently has at least a Ruzek/Willis type leg, 2 53 yarders
is a fair achievement.  Elliot looks much better and in command
of the position, Daluiso is really struggling (except for with
his distance).  JJ expressed confidence in Daluiso.

Other Notes:

1) Kmart's 60 yard TD from Beurlein was a catch and run.

2) Aikman mistimed ANOTHER long throw to Ace Wright, the
ball got there late (although ACE was wide open) and Holt
knocked it away.

3) Holt got into a fight with a receiver last week.

4) Hennings had a sack (along with Hill, Butts, and 
Lett). (a couple of 1/2 sacks there...)  He also looked
gassed toward the end of the session.  No real news about
him, there are DL playing much better.

5)  The statement was made again "the MLB job is Robert
Jone's to lose"

6)  Erik Williams is still too green to play LT on the 
offensive line.  Although he has been a terror on the
right side, he is right handed and is not suited to LT.
According to the Cowboys, the trasition takes a long time.
He will backup Newton on the rght until he feels better
about it.

that's all

*iceline*
From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: '49ers News
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:59:36 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <1992Jul21.172952.15549@parc.xerox.com> fishkin@Xerox.com (Ken Fishkin) writes:

>>       The 49ers also signed their 9th round pick, Darian Hagan, the former
>> QB of Colorado.  Are they going to use him as a WR/KR?
>    Yes, that's the plan. They want to give John Taylor a rest

I know Hagan doesn't possess classic NFL QB traits, but do you think the
Niners would also view him as back-up insurance at that position? 


....Al
From: jacobson@hadar.bucknell.edu (douglas jacobson GR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Need favorite team survey results
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:58:48 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

In article <1992Jul24.161854.15190@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day) writes:
>Hi there,
>
>    I seem to have missed the results of the favorite 
>team survey.  Could someone email me these results?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rob
>
>robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com

Me too!  Either e-mail or post again please!!

Thank you,
--
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From: bl376@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel I. Greenberg)
Subject: FTP Site for Football Gifs????
Reply-To: bl376@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel I. Greenberg)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:32:37 GMT


Is there a site for football gifs.  Or even better how about Browns Gifs
or stuff?
Thanks in advance,
-Brian
From: andy@sunbird.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp Metro SE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: William Perry in shape?!?!
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:03:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunbird.central.sun.com

In article <1992Jul30.190222.13892@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) writes:
>2. Howard Sudberry claims that Perry looked to be in the best 
>   shape he had EVER seen him in (which means in even better
>   shape than his 308lb rookie year).

Since Perry has not been seen in public,  I doubt he is less than
330 lbs.  That is being kind.  If he were in great shape,  his agent
would have him on TV everyday.  He is probably more like 350 lbs.  

--
Andy Knipp  SE                |
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From: jfdintin@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH F DINTINO)
Subject: Re: Weighed picks
Originator: jfdintin@c00508-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jfdintin@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH F DINTINO)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:13:19 GMT


When the spread or weighting is not used in picking outcomes, everyone ends up
'picking' fewer games because some, and often several of the games 
are no-brainers.  Sure, you may have an upset and small number of people 
actually picking it, but for the most part, the game is a washout.  Not many are
going to pick a 14 pt underdog in RFK or Rich Stadium, for instance.  So the 
interesting games of the week become fewer in number.  The spreads would make 
almost every game a 
tough one to call; or the weighting would make it easier to catch up when you 
fall behind; I personally feel either way would make it more interesting.  
Having to think more about who to pick should make it more fun...

- Joe
From: atchison@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Browns News - July 27th
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:51:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.110614.8549@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>Browns News - July 27, 1992
>
>Here are a few notes about the camp.
>
>7. New players:
>  - Jeff Ellis, TE, former Ohio State player, had a knee injury in college.
>    He was not drafted last year, due to concerns from the injury. If healthy,
>    Jeff may prove to be a good find. He was pretty awesome his sophomore year
>    at Ohio State.
>

I'm excited about this possibility.  Ellis was rated by many as the #1 to #3
tight end in college football before his junior year.  But he was hurt in the 
second game of the season at USC, and he put on a lot of weight (from ~210 to 
~240), and lost a lot of speed and mobility.  If he's dropped his extra weight,
he might be a valuable find -- a TE with real hands.

>Don Mocnik
>
>GO-O-O-O-O-O BROWNS !!!!!!

PS. If he's still 240 and gets cut in a week, then of course,
    none of what I just said applies...                    


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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: '49ers News
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:28:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.172952.15549@parc.xerox.com> fishkin@Xerox.com (Ken Fishkin) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.065300.16329@menudo.uh.edu>, st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui) writes:
>>       The 49ers also signed their 9th round pick, Darian Hagan, the former
>> QB of Colorado.  Are they going to use him as a WR/KR?
>    Yes, that's the plan. They want to give John Taylor a rest
>(and also reduce chances for injury), and everybody else they tried
>at the job last year (Sanjay Beach, maybe Dexter Carter) didn't cut it.
>
>-- 
>Ken Fishkin	fishkin@xerox.com

BTW I heard on the car radio this morning that Jerky Rice wants $4 Million a
year. I think this is absolutely ludicrous. I hope the Niners pay him that
though so they won't be able to afford anyone else's salary and piss everybody
else off on the team. That should make for a cohesive unit :~) NOT!! Can you
believe the balls on the guy though?

Oh well that's the Niner news from the Phin Phanatic on the wrong coast.

John
-- 
The opinions expressed here are sole property of the author and are not
the opinions of Make Systems or any other entity. What a shame.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:02:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

In article <1992Jul29.160042.1901@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>One thing for sure though, no amount of posturing either for or against the
>Bills,Dolphins,Colts,Jets and Pats is going to make a bit of difference in the
>outcome of the games or the outcome of the AFC east. Why don't we all kick back
>crack open a Guiness, turn up the sound and watch the games. Let the teams
>decide who wins and loses on the field rather than at the debates. And whoever
>wins the AFC east I'll root for to win it all. How's that?
>

A Guiness? I thought you would be a Sammie Smiths drinker..

Tony (go new england) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboy signings (was Re: Browns News - July 8th)
Date: 20 Jul 92 16:58:26 GMT
Organization: Stay Awake Software

<1992Jul15.143415.15995@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) said:
><13277@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, rjk@DINO.QCI.BIOCH.BCM.TMC.EDU (Raymond K)writes:
>><1992Jul14.205518.4728@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>
>I'm afraid this smiley isn't going to cut it.  You resemble a cult 
>leader when someone questions him.  It's like you have a persecution 
>complex.  Anyone who says anything against the Cowboys must be a 
>Cowboy's basher.  That's absurd.  

I had the same problem with thte 9er fans.  I dared to question the Holy
God *Montana*.  I agree, it's absurd.

>BTW, the Cowboys probably are a couple of years away.

Well, I can gaurentee that at least 25 teams are at least a year or two away.
However, I think the Cowboys have the talent to get as far as the NFC
Championship game.  Depending on who they face they might make the big
dance.  Of course, this all depends on if their coach doesn't blow a
gasket and start making major line-up changes in the middle of big games
again when they aren't necessary.


Gordon
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