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From: narten@cs.albany.edu (Thomas Narten)
Subject: external timers for recording
Originator: narten@karp.albany.edu
Organization: Computer Science Department, SUNY at Albany, Albany, NY 12222
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:43:50 GMT

I'm interested in finding out about external timers that can be
plugged into DAT and (some) cassette decks.  I want to be able to set
up my system to record FM at odd times when I am not around.  The
audio stores I've been in so far don't have a lot of first hand
information about them other than "yeah, we can order one for you."
Questions:

1) Are there programmable remotes with timers on them that would allow
me to program them to turn on my stereo (using remote control
signals) and start recording?  This would  be ideal, as it would allow
me to have the timer select the FM station.  I'm assuming that other
external timers only allow you to turn the power on/off.

2) What features do external timers actually have?  Can I set multiple
record times?  Different times on each day of the week, etc?  The VCR
timers are pretty good in that respect. Who makes them and what model
numbers are recommended?
-- 
Thomas Narten
narten@cs.albany.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: byrns-j@gamma.corp.mot.com (John Byrns)
Subject: Re: DMX, DCC, psychoacoustics
Organization: Motorola
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:39:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.141536.13479@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, shu@maestro.bellcore.com (Stephen Shu) writes:
> 
> (Stuff Deleted) 
> 
> It is not the opinion of FSLI that all block companding schemes 
> are transparent to the audiophile.  It is true that very high-quality 
> coders can be designed for bandwidth-hog rates.  However, even those 
> coders did not make the cut for use in DMX.  At this point, I should 
> make the correction that Supersound yields roughly 30% reduction (11bits),
> which is still considered "trivial" by today's standards.  I completely
> agree.  People utilizing psychoacoustics, in conjunction with
> correlating stereo channels, are even targeting 1.0-1.2 bits/
> sample.  These are much more complicated encoder/decoder
> configurations.  They sound good too.  But in FSLI and it clients'
> opinions, psychoacoustics does not completely cut it for audiophile
> grade music.  One can then argue that any lossy compression scheme
> will not cut it for audiophile (Martian) grade music.  This
> may be true too.
> 
I hate to flame, but Stephen Shu gives such a glowing report on the DMX
"Supersound" coder in this and other previous postings, that I feel I must.
Stephen only claims to have worked in "algorithm development and research"
at, FSLI, the developers of "Supersound." I believe there is more to his
relationship with FSLI than he has stated to this point. I think the net
readers deserve all the details on his relationship with FSLI, so that
his glowing reports can be put in their proper perspective. Let me just say
that I have no knowledge of the workings of DMX/"Supersound" nor have I ever
heard it. I assume it is everything he says it is, I just think there is more
background to the story than he has been stated so far. If I am out of line
here, I apologize to Stephen ahead of time. Flame off.

How about some independent opinions on the sound of DMX?
From: pfister@sicsun.epfl.ch (Markus PFISTER)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Max Hauser on audio oversampling
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:42:20 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Has Max Hausers overview on audio oversampling
   Preprint #2973, Audio Engineering Society, NY
been published meanwile ?

Thanks for all hints.

Markus Pfister
IMO-DP-EPFL
CH - 1015 Lausanne, Switzerland
pfister@eldp.epfl.ch
From: philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Philip Greenspun)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: DAT Royalty - Only on blank tape?
Date: 26 Sep 92 23:23:40 GMT
Reply-To: philg@martigny.ai.mit.edu
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
In-reply-to: mpalmer@encore.com's message of 25 Sep 92 23:16:38 GMT


In article <Bv5pzu.DF5@encore.com> mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer) writes:

   Is the royalty only on blank tape?  What about pre-recorded tape?  If the
   latter is not taxed, then TDK could just record a 1Khz tone on the first
   10 seconds of the tape - so now it's not blank - no royalty!

This might work, although remember that this tax, like income tax,
starts at a nominal percentage (3% for tape tax, 2% for income tax).
When quiet rider to some big omnibus bill a few years from now raises
the tax to 30%, you'll maybe see some action in this area.

Philip Greenspun
MIT
From: CCEB001@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Sound quality of DMX
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:55:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

In article <1992Sep23.130138.5615@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
shu@maestro.bellcore.com (Stephen Shu) writes:
>I used to work in algorithm development and research for a firm which
>developed the compression schemes for the cable music service "Digital
>Music Express".  During my work there, I had an opportunity to listen
 
I was under the impression that Digital Music Express was NOT compressed
and that it is in fact capable of providing a digital output suitable
for d/a convertors in common use.
 
Is dmx compressed?  If so, is it a lossless compression or a sub-band
scheme similar to those used by dcc or minidisc?  Inquiring minds want
to know and all that.  A reference to ageneral description that goes a
little deeper than, "oh, wow! isnt this great?" would be appreciated.
 
Mike.Coyne@utxvm.utexas.edu
Coyne@utxvm.bitnet
From: bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: test
Date: 28 Sep 1992 22:39:40 GMT
Organization: SPARK's R US
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: davidric@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david ricardo)
Subject: Wanted: DAT  FAQ
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:54:34 GMT

There is a DAT-Heads mail server somewhere that I heard has a great
FAQ. Rather than post standard DAT questions in rec.audio, could
someone email me the DAT-heads email address and specifically tell
me how to get the FAQ. I tried to get it earlier this month, but I
got no response. Please be specific on how to get the FAQ, or better
yet mail the FAQ to me as I don't think I am ready to join the 
DAT-heads mailing list.

				Thank You
				davidric@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ajm6045@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.J. Mitchell)
Subject: Amerisound Sales Inc. (Are they ok?)
Originator: ajm6045@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:00:02 GMT

I was wondering if anyone out there has any experience buying from
Amerisound Sales Inc.  A mail order company in Jacksonville FL.
I would like to hear from you via e-mail what your opinions on this
company are. What did you buy? How long did it take?
What did you think of their service?

Any help is much appreciated.
					--- D'Insane Audiophile
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 17:07:35 PST
From: Youngjoon Kwon     (415)926-2761 <YKWON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: Bose AM-5 II Satellite system
Distribution: rec

I have no intention to interfere with the sale but IMHO it is worth
mentioning that for $399 (which is $1 less than the posted price for
1 year old BOSE AM5-II) you can buy Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble II,
brand new and (also IMHO) far better than any BOSE sub/sat system.

Anyone interested in this sale may well check with Cambridge Soundworks
before making final decision.

-Youngjoon
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Subject: phone numbers of mail order stores
Reply-To: carl@crazyman.med.ge.com (Carl Crawford)
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Milwaukee,  WI
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 13:14:44 GMT

could someone please post or send me the phone numbers of a couple of
reliable discount mail order companies for audio equipment. i am
looking for a cheap radio to replace the one that was stolen from
my car. thanks.
--
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GE Medical Systems	   Fax: 414-521-6575
P.O. Box 414, W-875	   Internet: crawfordc@med.ge.com
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: kishon-amir@CS.YALE.EDU (amir kishon)
Subject: Looking for recommendations or FAQ list
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:56:59 GMT

I am just about to buy an audio system (i.e., Amplifier, Radio,
Compact Disk, Tape, Equalizer and Speakers) in the price range of
1000-2000$ .  I am certain that this question has been asked 9636
times before but I could not find a FAQ (i.e. a Frequently Asked
Question) list in this newsgroup.  Can some one send me the current
recommendations.

Thankssss,

-Amir
Xref: sparky rec.audio:13054 rec.video:11726
From: miliu@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (zaphod beeblebrox)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.video
Subject: Re: Hi-Fi VCRs
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:51:13 GMT
Followup-To: rec.audio
Organization: University of California, San Diego

>> kjt001@dunix.drake.edu (Kevin Tieskoetter) writes:
>> >1> What tape >is< better quality than the Hi-Fi tape, and where can I
>> >find them?

For what its worth, _Consumer Reports_ tested video cassette tapes
and came to the conclusion that extra quality doesn't justify paying
more for a tape labeled "pro" or "Hi-Fi."  They stated that the
results are ppretty much the same for all tapes, regardless of
price, except for off-brand tapes.  Those are to be avoided, as they
are inconsistent.

			Zaphod
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: Denon DRM 710 tape deck/Denon in general?
    <1992Oct2.201014.27945@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:40:05 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Well, I bought it. The DRM 710 model.
It may be that CDs have spoiled me, but I'm dissappointed.
I've only had it 3 days and have only recorded 4 tapes with it.
I used Maxell MX  (metal) tapes, and one Denon (metal) tape.
I feel like I should have went on and spent the extra money for a DAT.
I guess the sound quality is relatively good, but the difference when
switching between CD and Tape is very noticable. Am I expecting too much
from the dinosaur "cassette" medium? I guess so.

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: chiu@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com (Norman Chiu)
Subject: Re: DCC and the built in cassette recorder
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:00:41 GMT

In article <BvGpEy.GvD@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, 
davidric@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david ricardo) writes:
> 
> I am currently looking for a good cassette recorder (3head/HXpro etc.)
> but soon to be released DCC decks have me thinking I should wait
> 6 months to a year. 
> 
> I make lots of cassette tapes for my friends to trade and so forth
> so I am interested in the cassette deck built into the DCC decks.
> 
> Are they cheap units, or are the do the first DCC decks have HX pro
> 3 head, Dolby B/C in the cassette recorder portion?

You better buy the cassette deck.  The DCC decks will PLAY analog cassettes
ONLY, and will NOT RECORD them.

Why anyone would want to keep their old analog cassettes when they
have DCC tapes is truly beyond my comprehension.

-Norman
From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Designing Crossovers
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:26:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Thanks for the reply, Chris.  By what you are saying, it sounds like you can
come up with a pretty good speaker, but not really a perfected one without
the use of an anechoic chamber...

In article <5300@gold.gvg.tek.com> chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen) writes:
>
>One thing I as well as others has done is to caculate the crossover
>based, blindly,  on the "nominal' impedance of the speaker.  I learned
>better a long time ago but for non-"critical" applications I have
>still done it and they sounded fine.....  

Actually, I have always taken the impedance of the driver at the crossover
point...

One other question.  Is it possible to come up with a time coherent system
without using a chamber?  And what are the general attitudes of people
toward designing such a system  (Is it worth the hassle?)

>Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,


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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: system@acad.drake.edu
Subject: need recommendation for preamp/amp
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:51:58 GMT

I have recently purchased a pair of Thiel 3.5 speakers and am looking to
upgrade my aging electronics (Hafler DH101 and Phase Linear 400).  I 
listen almost exclusinvely to classical music and have a limited budget.
I also like to listen at realistic levels.

Do you have any suggestions as to replacements for this equipment?

Thanks.

George Miller
Drake University
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: 6th Ave Electronics City
Keywords: mail order
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:50:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <BvpIw5.CMB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu (jim crouse) writes:

> Has anyone used 6th Ave. Elect. City before ?
> What do you know/think about this place ?

two words:  STAY AWAY.

I've never used them, but they have the worst reputation for bad service,
particularly bait-and-switch.

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From: grego@bit.UUCP (Greg Sanguinetti)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: need recommendations for center channel speaker
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:46:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: bit.439
Reply-To: grego@bit.UUCP (Grego Sanguinetti)
Organization: BIT  Portland, OR

In article <5344@gold.gvg.tek.com> chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen) writes:
> <from a discussion on center channel speakers for Dolby Pro-Logic >
>
>>|> The best center channel speaker for a home theater is one that is
>>|> identical to the left and right speaker.
>
>>The best center channel speaker for a home theater is one that, in situ,
>>sounds identical to the left and right speaker.
>
I don't think that is necessary. My Pro-logic system uses Magnapan's for
the main speakers. They work VERY well for this situation. They also work
wonderfully (maybe even better than the mains) for the surround speakers.
They are NOT the choice for the center channel. There is quite a difference
in the program material between the center and main LR channels so the
matching of the speakers to each other seems to not be as critical as
matching the speakers to the program source. They can be adjusted
electrically since they are separate channels. They obviously cannot 
be TOO different or a voice that moves through the entire field will
sound wierd.

For the center channel you should choose a speaker that sounds best for
the spoken voice as this is the most important feature of the center
channel signal. I ended up using some small Altec-Lansings that I had
in storage. I tried BA-150's, Advents, Infinities, and some other stuff
I could borrow before settling on the Altecs (model unknown). I heard
a system using the new center channel speaker from Advent (I think) and
it did sound very nice. I did however notice that the sound was comming
from the top of the monitor.

I solved the center channel imaging problem by using two center channel
speakers, one on each side of the monitor (right up against it). The
main LR channel speakers are out about six feet from the monitor and a
bit forward. The resulting imaging works pretty well. In fact it can be
really startling at times! If you close your eyes and focus on the voice,
when you open your eyes you are staring precisely at the face on the
screen.

A sound source (voice or whatever) that moves between channels does so
to emphisize the movement. Having a small amount of change in the
sound characteristics of the speakers can actually enhance that effect.

-grego
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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: Does spaced omni ever really work?
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:41:04 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <TONYB.92Sep29145813@titania.juliet.ll.mit.edu> 
tonyb@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Tony Berke ) writes:
>In article <5302@gold.gvg.tek.com> chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen) writes:
(text edited)

Thread= Performance Recording-Mic tests

>Perhaps the test should be repeated by setting off a spaced series of
>dynamite sticks on the stage of a large symphony hall, with an
>audience.  This test would have a small bias against close-miking
>techniques, of course ;-)

I recently recorded the 1812 Overture in a 600 seat theater.  Hydrogen
gas explosions were used to "simulate" the cannon.  It was GREAT.  I
used my PZM array because of the "church bells" and choir that was
also in the theater.

The rise time of an explosion is to slow...   :-)

Now gun shots,  yea that would do it!

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro

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Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: brent@terminus.gatech.edu (Brent Laminack)
Subject: Re: ECM-66 microphone
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:36:36 GMT

kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes:

>jimh@laison.w8hd.org (Administrator) writes:

>>Has anyone else experienced the apparently unavoidable problem of breath
>>blasts which occur then this microphone is worn by a
>>spealer/talent/announcer, who, while off-camera, looks down at a script
>>and speaks virtually directly into the microphone (being worn in the
>>lavalier postion)?  Of course, I am using the blast filter foam screen
>>supplied with the mic, since it is totally useless without it! 

Try locating the mic higher up. i.e. jam it right under the knot of 
the tie. in this way, the chin (if the person has one) acts as
a blast deflector for the breath. you might still get an occasional
pop, but it really helps.


					
					-Brent Laminack (brent@cc.gatech.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro,alt.stagecraft
From: bernstei@romeo.cs.colorado.edu (Michael Bernstein)
Subject: Re: Theatrical Sound
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:12:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.231929.14312@orlith.bates.edu> rmontgom@orlith.bates.edu 
(Robert Montgomery) writes:

>                                    Now for the big question, how to I cite
>the net in a footnote? :-)

As a conversation or correspondance.  I suppose you could give article IDs
and dates if you really want to be anal-retentive...

Michael

(who should really be doing his generic binary-tree program in Ada but who
 quite frankly is bored at the thought and a terrible net addict.)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: naiming@eng.umd.edu (Naiming Shen)
Subject: What filter number to use in DAT/CD oversampling DSP chip?
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 14:55:45 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Maryland

I have a question for you experienced digital audio guys or DSP guys:
I want to do CD data oversampling, with 16 bits unsigned integer in
and 16 bits unsigned integer out. The filter I'm going to use is a
8 bits and 40 points long filter. The operation involved will be
multiplication(8 bits with 16 bits data) and addition(sum all the 
results of the multiplications). My question is: What kind of number
should I use for this 8 bits filter? 
First I was thinking using unsigned integer, so the results of multiplication
is a 24 bits number, I can drop the lowest 8 bits and keep the highest
16 bits for output. But I loose resolution in this way.
Then I thought using unsigned integer, from -128 to +127, but there is
a possibility that the summation will be negative number, and I assumed
the output 16bits are positive number.
If you netters can give me a clue, I will appreciate very much.

Naiming,

Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
From: CURTNER@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Robert Curtner)
Subject: Shure model 55S Microphone questions . . .
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:14:14 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I have a Shure model 55S mocrophone that I would like to use with a home 
cassette deck to do some recording.  My major problem is that I do not know 
how to wire the micropohone properly.  This unit has what looks to be a 
non-standard three prong (female) plug in the base.  The pin sockets are 
numbered 1,2,3.  Does anyone know if the pin numbering is the same as that 
used for standard XLR connections?  What pin does the jacket go to?  Does 
anyone have experience with this mike?  Does it sound OK?

Thanks

Bob

curtner@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu