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From: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: Re: CP-6?
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-22945]: spop.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 09:48:10 GMT

In article <colinm.702762324@cunews>, colinm@alfred.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
|> In <1992Apr4.194808.25369@cs.tulane.edu> pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce) writes:
|> >   Ah yes, the CP-6. It was built by Honeywell. It is now a Bull CP-6 as
|> > Honeywell gave up on the computer end and gave it all to their
|> > subsidiary Bull. It has an editor called IBEX that, IMHO, is even worse
|>                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> The editor is called EDIT (surprise).  IBEX is a command processor like
|> shell.  It may be worse but it is probably the most powerful line-editor
|> around.  One of the development programmers has written an editor called
|> FSE (full screen edit) that can use emacs commands.  Much better.
|> 
   I was real tired when I originally posted about this. Anyway, the '!'
  prompt is for the IBEX, and '*' prompt is for EDIT/BUILD. Dabble is
  also enabled on it. 
 
|> > than 'vi'. The operating system is case-sensitive on filenames. Its full
|> > name is Honeywell/Bull DPS90 CP-6. We have one at the local University.
|> > { Thats the University of Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg, MS. }

    Actually, the manuals are 75 miles away on the main campus. So I'm
  not surprised I screwed this up ! { And no, they wont send us any ! }

|> DPS90 is only a model name.  There are many machines in the DPS family.

   You mean there are more of these things out there ?!

|> As far as working on them, I administer two of them (DPS 8/70 and a
|> DPS 8000).  They are very user friendly using english-like commands
|> and are a security-phobe's dream come true.  It is very easy to prohibit/
|> allow access to files and programs in the same account.  One drawback
|> is that it has a flat filesystem so if you don't organize yourself,
|> your account can get very messy.
|> 
|> >  My other email address/job is jmpierce@usmcp6.bitnet.
|>                                              ^^^
|> > BTW, I'm about the only Amiga user there also. { On the staff anyway. }

  Actually, my email address there should be in all-caps. E to Edit, and
  B to Build a file. E to edit an already existing file and B to
  edit/create a file that does not yet exist. You should see the blank
  looks that explanation gets me from new users !
 
   I just get to answer new user questions. My only other use for the thing
 is Bitnet !

   The on-line help on the CP-6 is a big joke. Its worse than MS-DOS 5.0
  dosshelp, IMHO anyway. I was told its about 15 years old, I've never
  actually seen it. 
-- 
     pierce@navo.navy.mil  Jim Pierce 
  Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science.
From: grog@adagio.UUCP (Greg Lehey)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Writing Comments (was: CS Hackers?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:59:35 GMT
Organization: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany

In article <1992Apr8.141552.16458@sctc.com> smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith) writes:

>Ultimately I accepted that righthand side comments were the wrong thing
>in a block structured language and went for block structured comments
>somewhat like what cjl refers to above. Except that I don't just put a
>block at the beginning of the procedure.

The great advantage of comments on the right (`hanging comments'?) is
that they are together by themselves. To do this properly in a
block-structured language, you need a *very* wide line - I prefer 130
to 140 characters, with the comments all starting at a fixed position,
very much like assembler. This makes it a whole lot easier to skim
down the right side of a listing to find a position, then refer to the
left side for the code. Put them in line with the indentation and you
have to refocus each time you change from code to comment or back.

However, coding style is really a religious issue. When shall we start
a fight about where to put the {}s?
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From: pgf@usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: net.celebrities canonical list - version 0.001
Keywords: net.celebrities names usenet persons famous
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:39:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: srl06.pgf.702689993
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana

>In <wcsjc.701629941@cunews> wcsjc@alfred.carleton.ca (John Coughlin) writes:
>>I thought it had been established that Henry Spencer is an AI program.

Funny, he didn't sound that mechanical on the phone.

Of course, there might still be _two_ of him... it would explain
the flood that results from 
nn -n "Henry Spencer"

Hmmm... I haven't done that in a while. Excuse me..........
--
Phil Fraering pgf@nasa12.usl.edu 318/365-5418
"How about a dragon that breathes neutrons instead of fire?  Kills the
elves, leaves the buildings intact..." - Nick Szabo
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Virus Jokes
From: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 00:15:08 GMT
Reply-To: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Organization: Task Management Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr10.192821.20440@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> Brian Ridgely <ridgelyb@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>Wanted: Virus Jokes
>
>Some friends and I are discussing the evolution of computer jokes
>and are particularly interested in jokes about computer viruses.
>Do any of you know some?  (Jokes, that is, not viruses!  :-)
>We would appreciate if you could mail or post any jokes you
>remember, from the earliest up to the Michaelangelo jokes, along
>with your best guess on the year.  Thanks!

Just wait for the headline.

    Computer virus escapes from research establishment and infects 
    human workers in building.

    Four people already dead and twenty seriously ill.


Derek "Let me through i'm a programmer" Tearne
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New Zea
and while he wasn't looking the .sig eaters were busy at work
From: s861022@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Harry the Dirty Dog)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:55:40 GMT
Organization: Green Bomb Design Team & Assoc.

jkonrath@bronze.bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jon Konrath) writes:
>anyone else wake up in the middle of the night with a half-idea
>on a program, and cant figure out why your emacs wont let you
>enter stuff, before you realize youre not in front of a computer?

No.  

Now, I think you should stand up.  Take several very deep breaths.
Get a cup of coffee/tea/hot chocolate.  And start thinking about that very
long holiday you postponed because you were too busy working at the moment.


-- 
Harry the Dirty Dog           "That's the problem with plutonium, it's
                               pretty limited in its applications. It's not
s861022@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au   user friendly, but as a vehicle for regaining
                               self respect, its got a lot going for it"
                                  - Darius Jedburgh
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: bcc@Eyring.COM (Brian Cooper)
Subject: Re: Those wacky K&R guys
Organization: Eyring Corp.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 05:32:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.154612.5228@vax.oxford.ac.uk> reading2@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Mar31.215538.7789@sci.kun.nl>, hansm@cs.kun.nl (Hans Mulder) writes:
>> In <204020@unix.cis.pitt.edu> jgh1+@pitt.edu (John G Hardie) writes:
>>>One of the ones that I liked was in a calculus book (but for the
>>>life of me I can't remember the authors).  In the index is an entry
>>>for Whales.  (WHALES?! What the Heck!?)  If you look up the references,
>>>the pages have plots of some functions which look like - wait for it -
>>>whales.
>> 
>> What's new?
>> 
>> Try the reference to Ursa Major in the index to the TeXbook.
>> 
>> Or, if you insist on real animals and those wacky guys, the reference
>> to squirrel in K&R....
>> 
>> --
>> Hans Mulder		hansm@cs.kun.nl
>
>On of my favourites is the index to the biography of PDQ Bach by Peter
>Schikele. The only indx I have met to include "the" as an entry...
>
>
>Ian Johnston, i_johnston @ uk.ac.open.acs.vax, NOT reading2 @ uk.ac.oxford.vax

We're getting pretty far afield here, but since someone else started it --
one of the collection of FAR SIDE cartoons had an index.  Every letter but
'T' was empty; under 'T' was a collection of entries of the form:

	The One About The Cows and The Car.
	The One About The Professor and The Duck.

In other words, EVERY ENTRY started with 'The One About ...'.  
-- 
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:07:30 -0400 
From: "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Warlock

The monks of the order carry a small yellow-handled screwdriver in their
pockets as a symbol of their order.  Their patron saint was a priest who
sacrificed himself by bridging a high-energy transmitter tube, allowing an
important transmission to go out.  I believe the order is something like
"The Order of the Cathode".
                            joe
From: Jay.Ashworth@f160.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 09:35:00 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/160 - Hacker's Haven, Clearwater FL

In a message of <Monday April 13 1992>, Mike J. Fuller wrote to All:

 MJF> cd $HOME
 MJF> mkbed
 MJF> sleep 28800
 MJF> PANIC: bus error
 MJF> I see the problem.  Orcs are attacking my demons.
 MJF> 1755 (sticky bit).
 MJF> fork(): no more processes
 MJF> bottle: cannot open
 MJF> opener: not found

 MJF> BTW, all of the above are true, and yes, I am seeking professional
 MJF> help!
 MJF> +--- -+-\ | Mike J. Fuller | Internet: mikef@sarah.lerc.nasa.gov      |
                                                   ^^^^^

Well good, Mike.  Anyone who's _computer_ is female...

Cheers,
-- jra

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From: Greg_Goss@mindlink.bc.ca (Greg Goss)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Disk and Drive incompatible....
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:23:28 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Rick Kelly writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Apr10.060630.15107@u.washington.edu>
> pollock@milton.u.washington.edu (Joe Pollock) writes:
> >Using a 5.25" HD drive to format and write an LD disk usually works
> >quite well, if the objective is to transfer data to a computer with
> >only LD drives.
> 
> This doesn't seem to work reliably under MSDOS.
> 


I have no problems with it, so long as I ONLY use virgin or bulk-erased disks.

The only time I have a problem is when a disk is written to from a LD drive,
then written to from a HD drive in LD mode, then read on an LD drive.

I have had no problems with the following circumstances:  (my notation HD means
an HD drive in LD mode)

LD Write -> HD repeated read/writes and general usage
virgin -> HD format/writes/read -> LD write/read/reformat general usage

The only problems I've encountered is when a LD-written disk is re-written (or
reformatted) on an HD drive, then attempted read on an LD drive.

In other words, I agree with Joe Pollock as quoted above.

.../greg

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From: colinm@alfred.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: Re: CP-6?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:46:25 GMT

In <colinm.703214443@cunews> colinm@alfred.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:

>In <wcsjc.703199828@cunews> wcsjc@alfred.carleton.ca (John Coughlin) writes:

>>In <9671@bnr-rsc.UUCP> christo@bcarh803.BNR.CA (Mark Christopher) writes:

>>>I don't recall much about the on-line help.  What I do remember is that
>>>the text for the various errors the system spewed out were looked up in
>>>a file.  A friend of mine told me that one April 1st, the error messages
>>>magically became some strange combination of pig-latin and rhyming slang...

>>God!  Another computer Urban Legend!

>He must have found the !HELP (SWITCHAWOO) WHATS_A_SWITCHAWOO. ;-)

Sorry, that should have been:

       !HELP (SWITCHAWOO.X) WHATS_A_SWITCHAWOO.
From: smith@sctc.com (Rick Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Assembler Formats (was: CS Hackers?)
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:58:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: sctc.1992Apr8.135831.15991
Organization: SCTC

> zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>>The thing I like most about nearly all asm's I've seen is the layout:
>>
>>label... code... args... comment char... short comment on what we are doing

And lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>I believe I came across at least one asm language that doesn't require a
>comment start character at all, because the statements are inherently complete
>so additional stuff on the line is ignored.

That was a tradition in IBM mainframe assemblers that I remember.
There used to be two distinctive traditions to assembler syntax
design: the IBM style with highly structured fields and the more
free-form style used heavillly by DEC machines and their spinoffs
(or maybe by MIT descended machines and their spinoffs).

DEC style required a semicolon before every comment. Assembler directives
always started with a dot; everything else was an instruction. Labels
were suffixed by a colon. Things were pretty much free format; you could
usually have zero or more labels followed by the opcode or asm directive.
If you didn't have a label the opcode or directive could appear in
column one.

IBM style didn't require a comment prefix except on lines that
contained nothing but comments. Assembler directives in the IBM
world were syntactically indistinguishable from opcodes; you had to
remember which was which. The statement label, if any, started in
column one. If you didn't have a label the opcode still had to have
at least one blank before it.

Macro facilities had their own very distinctive flavors, too.

I'm sure that these distinctions have been muddied as various micro
manufacturers have mix-n-matched the syntaxes over the past decade.

Rick.
smith@sctc.com         arden hills, minnesota
From: thacher@renbourn.unx.sas.com (Clarke Thacher)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Mel: Fact or Fiction?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:16:01 GMT
    <1g4zD0#5Y7TMc91F3txBBKKvL5OsXmP=eric@snark.thyrsus.com> 
    <ZVGEA3F@taronga.com>
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
X-Bytes: 1475

In article <ZVGEA3F@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1g4zD0#5Y7TMc91F3txBBKKvL5OsXmP=eric@snark.thyrsus.com> eric@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) writes:
>>In <1992Apr11.003258.19395@SSD.intel.com> Paul Pierce wrote:
>>> I have a Litton 1230.
>
>>I have a dim memory of someone (perhaps Ed Nather) telling me of a connection
>>between Royal-McBee and Litton Industries.  It may be that the Litton 1230
>>is the same machine with a different faceplate, or a close relative.
>
>Sounds like this machine is a dead cert for the Computer Folklore Museum.
>
>Now we just need a Computer Folklore Museum.
>
>A copy of the blackjack program listing would help...


The first time that I visited the Computer Museum (when it was still in
Marlboro) one of the first exhibits was an LGP-30.  The sign in front of
it called it the Minicomputer of the Vacuum tube era.  My father, who 
was with me, got a nostalgic look in his eyes.  He worked on one of those
in the early 60's at Argonne Labs.  At the time that he worked on it,
he could either use FORTRAN or machine language (not assembler).

---

Clarke Thacher        OSRD/HIP Software Developer          SAS Institute, Inc.
thacher@unx.sas.com         (919) 677-8000    SAS Campus Drive, Cary, NC 27513
-- 
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thacher@unx.sas.com         (919) 677-8000    SAS Campus Drive, Cary, NC 27513
			Entropy is your friend.
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Slashed o's (o's, not zeros)?
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:19:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.210616.25235@cco.caltech.edu> karchie@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Allen Archie) writes:
>magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson) writes:
>
>>It's funny, but many English-speaking people seem to think that those
>>funny little dots, slashes and rings used by Germans and Scandinavians
>>are there just for decoration, and can be added or removed at will.
>>Nothing could be further from the truth. The horror examples are heavy
>>metal groups like Motorhead and Motley Crue, who've added some
>>German-looking dots - I suppose for the visual effect. They would be
>>less than pleased if they knew how ridiculous it sounds if you
>>actually *pronounce* those dots... :-)
>
>Yes, but what about Spinal Tap (umlaut over the n, o'course :)

25 Years of Spinal Tap is the lead cover title story of Entertainment #114 for
April 17, 1992.  The band's "discography" is covered all the way from "Listen
to the Flower People" from 1967 through their new album "Break like the Wind"
featuring the new single "Bitch School".  (Note: this is an April issue, but
not for April 1 :-).)

cjl (reading usenet for over a fiftieth of a century)


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:41:11 -0400 
From: "Joseph M. Newcomer" <jn11+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Computer-related auto license tags

Ivan Sutherland owned a schoolbus-yellow original Volkswagen with black
front fenders.  The license plate was DE BUG.  His other car, whose
type I forget, had a plate that said F-MA but he had added another line 
so it said F=MA.  I've seen both of these vehicles and their plates.

The story of the black fenders (which made it definitely beetle-like in
appearance) was that when either he or Marcia were driving it a car
pulled out directly in front of the BUG.  The claim in court was that
"I didn't see it"---and this was a car in schoolbus yellow, a color chosen
for its high visibility.  However, because the unusual color had been offered
for only a limited period, it wasn't possible to get a matching front
fender.  So he had the new one and its otherside mate painted shiny black.
                                joe

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: evilted@vesta.unm.edu ()
Subject: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 01:09:35 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Summary: oh, stuff. You know.
Followup-To: alt.folklore.computers

...you're looking for your hilighter and you think:
find . -pen HiLiter -print

additions?

-- 
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From: s.telford@ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re:  Computer-related auto license tags
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:56:12 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, UK.

I saw a car a few weeks ago here in Edinburgh with the plate "TTY 1".
The driver didn't look like a hacker type though.....

-- 
Scott Telford, Dept of Computer Science,      electric mail: s.telford@ed.ac.uk
University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK.
------ <wham!> "It's in the trees!" <wham!><wham!><wham!> "It's coming!" ------
From: Jay.Ashworth@f160.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Those wackhy K&R guys
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 12:10:00 EDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/160 - Hacker's Haven, Clearwater FL

In a msg of <Sunday April 12 1992>, Brett G Person wrote to All:

 BGP> Most of us had no idea what he wanted done.  We looked in the back of
 BGP> Kerninghan and Pike ( the calss text)  and found that recursion was
 BGP> discussed on some page in the high hundreds.  Yeah, the page number
 BGP> reference was the same page I was looking at in the index!

Yet another log for the fire...  _C_Traps_and_Pitfalls_, Andrew Koenig, AT&T Bell Labs/Addison Wesley, 1988 (ISBN 0-201-17928-8) (Quite a good book, BTW):

    recursion   88,146 (on page 146)
    trap   see pitfall  (and)
    pitfall   see trap

Also, _every_ proper name mentioned in the book is indexed, and _every_ two or three word index entry is present in all it's rotations, to the point at which it begins to be funny in itself.

Also amusing are the entries:

    error, fencepost      36-46

and

    error, off by one     36-46

right next to each other.  And, of course, their permutations....

Cheers,
-- jra

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From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,rec.arts.sf.written,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: WAR GAMES II, or How I Learned To Start Worrying And Hate The Bo
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


>> I also bet that if the book had warned prospective respondents that
>> their names and addresses would be selected at random and rebroadcast
>> worldwide over Usenet, there'd be a lot fewer cards received.
>> 
>> tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff)

*please* tell me that you're serious; that you actually believe that
sending in a reader-response card could not POSSIBLY lead to your name
and address being sold to anyone with some cash.

ha ha ha ha.

ok
dpm
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: kris@tpki.toppoint.de (Kristian Koehntopp)
Subject: Re: You know you've been in hack mode too long when...
X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1992 Kristian Koehntopp -- All rights reserved.
		 Reproduktion, auch auszugsweise, ausserhalb elektronischer,
		 nichtkommerzieller Datennetze nur mit ausdruecklichem,
		 schriftlichem Einverstaendnis des Autors.
Organization: Toppoint Mailbox e.V.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:46:26 GMT
X-Excuse: X-Copyright wegen Emma, Suedwestpresse und /C'T/DISKUSSIONEN.

you complain in the supermarket about your change and find out
you computed it in hex.

Kristian
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers
From: dagbrown@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Why Grey? Are computer unhappy objects?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:37:29 GMT

In article <12594@pogo.wv.tek.com> kevind@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Draz) writes:
>>II were yellow.
>
>The Mac SE was actually the first machine to adopt the new color.  The Mac
>Plus was the last of the beige/brown/whatever color.
>
	The other day, I saw a rather elderly Mac Plus that'd
done a rather interesting thing.  It's case had done that neat
VT220 trick  where the case turns a lovely golden-brown
toast color.  I was much impressed....

				Dave Brown
				dagbrown@descartes.waterloo.edu

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