From: faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne)
Subject: Re: Bosnian mistakes
Reply-To: faruk@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 04:51:21 GMT


In Article 939 of soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna, pshane@andromeda.rutgers.edu 
(Ana M. Shane) writes:

>Wouldn't it have been less bloody if the Bosnian Government FIRST promoted
>UNITY of all the Bosnia and Herzegovina people, decreasing separate
>national interests and getting a more united population, BEFORE secession?

(I must tell that you are such an ignorant that it is likely the waste of 
time to discuss it with you. And ignorance is not an excuse.)

Bosnian governement did exactly that. Remember: President of Presidency was 
Muslim (majority of population), President of Parliament was a Serb (Koljevic),
Prime Minister was Croat (Jure Pelivan). Presidency consisted of 2 Muslims
(Izetbegovic and Abdic), 2 Serbs (Karadzic and Plavsic), and 2 Croats (Kljujic
and ...), and 1 Yugoslav (Ganic). Lower posts were distributed as well accor-
ding the national proportions. However from the very first day (and before)
SDS (serbian party) began destabilizing the governement and arming serbian 
population. Serbian army generals disobeyed governement orders. On several 
occasions serbian "high officials" were implicated in arms smuggling (remember 
"banana" affair in Sarajevo) etc. Serbian members of police refuse to obey 
the orders, etc. As I told you earlier serbo-negro gangs start looting Bosnian 
towns, intimidating Bosnian population, and threteaning the Bosnian officials. 
Police and Army, the basic instrument of the authority against the mad gangs 
did not work. Serbian policemen were with them as well as (serbian) army. 
Yu generals openly threatened the population over the public radio. On the 
other side SDS members of governement refused to go along with the democratic 
governemental procedures. In summary SDS which were proportioanly represented
in the governemental structure refused to participate in democratic political
life of the Republic.

>Croatia had somehow been resolved and more stable? 

Because the army was forcing Bosnians to join the serbian army against
Croatia, Bosnian (together with Croatian, Slovenian, and Macedonian) 
governements, adviced the youth to refuse to go. It would be much more
difficult for Croatia to preserve the independence without Bosnia. 

>There is an old story about a baby and two women who both claimed that
>it was theirs. When they came with their dispute to king Solomon, he gave
>them a choice to cut up the baby and each one take a half. The true
>mother then said that the other woman can take the whole baby. Then
>king Solomon knew who was the true mother.

Your analogy here is naive. Solomon (if not Bosnian governement) was 
supposed to be CSCE and UN as well as EC and USA. However SDS did not 
listen to anybody. They precisely want to cut up another mother's babby, 
as they did many times in this war.

>Wouldn't the Bosnian government have been the true mother to the people
>of Bosnia even if they accepted the alleged dominance of the leadership of 
>Serbia for a few more years, 

They had the serbian dominance since 1918. This dominance simply became 
unbearable.

>and in the mean time secured the more united 
>people within Bosnia, who wouldn't start killing each other? 

They did everything to persuade Bosnian Serbs that Bosnia is their only
fatherland, the same way as she is the only fatherland of Boanian Muslims 
and Bosnian Croats. Many Serbs understood, and fight for Bosnia. However
some did not. Country is like a Company. Either you dedicate yourself
to the benefits of your Company or you leave. How do you treat the i
ndividuals who fight against their fatherland (for another country)? 

>Another point: the secession of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia&Herzegovina,
>and Macedonia, have in fact strengthened the regime of Milosevic, and the war 
>has prolonged his and SPS's reign. 

Remember, the only think Republics wanted from the ex-Yu was confederation:
decentralized provincial governements with common defence (proportional army)
and common market. Serbia was the only Republic which opposed. 

>Divided - we are all victims of the
>same criminals who became rich sucking the last drops of the blood
>of everybody.

All evidence points that SDS does not want co-existence. It wants dominance
of the worst kind - despotism.

>I am here pointing to another possibility. I know that to many Bosnians
>this will look like defending what the Serbian extremists have done.
>I am not, they have already proven that they were not the "true mother
>of the baby". The question is who is the "true mother" among the leaders
>in this terrible war?

Stil don't know? Don't worry. No one expects it from you.

Faruk.