HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: chain prematurely worn out?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:11:33 GMT

In article <C0rBuz.3qy@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
>In article <1993Jan08.210229.19198@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell) writes:
>>   ADD: It is important to adjust the chain on swingarm frames with the
>>wheels on the ground and the bike loaded. The swing arm is on a shorter
>>radius than the chain, so the distance between the sprockets varies with
>>the weight on the bike. This distance is (usually) longest when the swingarm
>>is parallel to a line through the centers of the sprockets.
>
>
>	Umm, how can this be possible?  The rear sprocket and the
>back of the swingarm are co-axial because the axle runs through the
>centre of both.  The front sprocket and front swingarm pivot
>are not co-axial.  And never can be, seeing as both are hard-mounted
>to the frame (effectively).  So how can the swingarm ever be parallel to
>a line through the centres of the sprockets?

	Okay, always a bad sign when you follow-up to your own follow-up.
I see how this can be possible.  Just happens to be pretty darn
unlikely on the only chain drive bike I've looked at closely lately,
the Fazer.  The countershaft sprocket and swingarm pivot are at such
an offset that for the drive sprocket to become colinear the swingarm
would have to swing farther than the suspension travel will allow.

	Please don't make me drive across town to the garage where
it's stored to double-check.


-----
Robyn Landers                      | "Any profit should go to Arnie's `get the
rblanders@math.uwaterloo.ca        |  daemon carved on Mount Rushmore' fund."
Denizen 0051,  KotV4               |       - Marty Albini, DOD0550
VF750S Sabre (his) FZX750 Fazer (hers)


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethrowned by '93 ZX-6. Whine
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:01:41 GMT

In article <1iscm4INNlh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>
>Yeah, it's sooooo much more mature than a big chrome "Screamin' Eagle."
>
Hey! I thought this was "Be Nice to Tod" month?

(Oh oh. Maybe *all* these damn motorcycles are for adolescents. Geesh,
after all these years......)
============================================================================
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    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:08:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.220835.14637@leland.Stanford.EDU> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.163245.120@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu
>(David Karr) writes:
>>[...]
>>Err ... how about when she wrote, "Owning a motorcycle is a tremendous
>>responsibility" (or something like that).
>
>That's the sentence I had in mind.  It must seem a tremendous
>responsibility to her, to have to worry every time you park
>whether someone else will do something dumb that will injure
>them and cost you money.

That meaning of "responsibility" is a new one to me.  Let's see:
whenever I go through a green light, I feel a tremendous
responsibility, knowing that it's possible someone will run the
red light on the cross street and broadside me.

Nah, somehow "responsibility" doesn't seem to describe my role in
circumstances in which it's someone else's gross negligence that will
cause me harm (e.g. damage to bike and to bank account).
Perhaps she meant "risk."

>Whatever Abby thinks about the ethics of messing with someone else's
>bike, she's correct about the liability issue.  Her advice was
>correct and to the point, even if it didn't explore all aspects of
>the problem.

First, *is* she correct?  Anyone ever heard of a successful lawsuit
of this sort, and what were the circumstances that made the biker
liable?

Second, her advice is not to the point, since it doesn't say what
kind of insurance to get.  As far as I can tell, there is no motorcycle
insurance to cover such an accident.  Maybe a more general personal
liability coverage such as is provided by homeowner's or renter's
insurance will do.  A good adviser would have explained this.

Third, her role as an advice columnist is not just to tell the
letter-writers what to do.  If it were, a lot of trees could be spared
by her just writing a letter back instead of having millions of copies
printed.  (Even so, there are really two responses to such a letter:
"You're right, but here's what you have to do," vs. "Your head is all
messed up, and here's what to do."  The tone of her response sounded
closer to the latter than the former to me.)  Most of the people reading
her column are not motorcyclists and have no interest in whether they
need insurance for other people hurting themselves on the readers'
bikes.  The readers are much more likely to have the opportunity to
sit on someone else's parked attractive nuisance or to put their
kids on it, and since Abby gave not one word of support to the
motorcyclists arguments against this, they might get the notion
that this monkey business is just fine.

It's quite possible that Abby is technically correct, but even so,
as responses in advice columns go, this one was pretty lame.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
From: tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Help with an electrical problem, please
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:47:34 GMT

In article <76222@apple.apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)  
writes:
> 
> If you are blowing out headlamps it sounds like you have an overvoltage
> problem.  A defective regulator or a problem with the associated wiring
> is the probable cause of this.  Get your hands on a voltmeter
> ($15 or so at Radio Shack, or your friend at the motorcycle shop will
> have one).  Measure the voltage of your battery with the bike running
> and reved up a ways.  If it's 15 volts or more you have a regulation
> problem.

	While you're at it, measure the alternator output by connecting  
the two voltmeter leads to the two alternator wires.  A GS450 should put  
out 75 volts or so when warmed up... check the shop manual to be sure.   
But it looks like the regulator is the culprit.

TG   DoD#4043
--
tgrupe@watserv.ucr.edu

generic .sig
generic .sig
generic .sig

What are you reading this for?

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Von Welch)
Subject: Re: Bike Stolen - replacement cost?
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:32:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan08.003513.22065@vpbuild.vp.com>, jessea@u013.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher) writes:
|> Well, I just got my first motorcycle about a month ago and I've already
|> had it stolen.  I'm not pleased with the insurance company and I wanted
|> to get some opinions about how much my bike might be worth.
|> 
|> I had a '79 Kawasaki KZ650SR (4 cylinder) with a Vetter faring (Windstar is
|> the model) that was a half faring.  It was a full-frame mount faring.

I don't suppose there a edmunds for mcs and I don't suppose if there is
it would include late 70's models.

Suggestion: (this is just an ideas, I've never had to try it) Try getting a 
market price by looking through classifieds for similar bikes or getting
quotes from dealers. At least you'll have solid numbers to wave in their
face.

BTW, sorry to hear aboput your bike.

Von

-- 
Von Welch (vwelch@ncsa.uiuc.edu)	NCSA Networking Development Group
'93 CBR600F2			'78 KZ650		'83 Subaru GL 4WD

- I speak only for myself and those who think exactly like me -
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Application for DoD Membership
Date: 4 Jan 1993 05:51:18 GMT
Organization: Woopie Tech
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ravi@cs.wpi.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu

ravi@bigmouth.x.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
=>
=>		I would like to make a formal request for DoD
=>		membership....
=>					Ryan...
=
=	You have to hold your nose while pouring a can of 10W-40 oil
=	[...]
=	And then, maybe not.
=
=	- ravi


    usenet golden rule #1: never screw up a ghost post!!!!

    From: ravi@elektro.cmhnet.org (Ravi Narayan)

    its a well known fact, charlie ;-), that i'm a confirmed .edu type
    of squid! of course this could be a more diabolic plot by the DoD
    Anti-Squid Squad...

    though above included post has no relation to me (me being, as is again
    well known, incapable of such biting humour!), i do agree with the
    sentiments expressed ... and in keeping with the current DoD
    right-thing-to-do, and to further thicken the plot, with regard to the
    bra auction, i propose below a plan, to once and for all, wrench
    control of rec.moto from the senile cager .com types, to us blood,
    sweat, spooge, .edu-types, i propose below a plan, that is bound to
    make greater squids of us all:

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    THE .EDU BID!!!!!!

    Do you believe that something as crazy as motorcycling can only be
    attempted by someone crazy enough to be in ug/grad school?

    Have you always wanted to be a dod-god without having to know all
    the phyzziks?

    Have you ever had sex with a Jawa?  (statutory trick question)

    Would you like to add the title KotB to your .sig, which otherwise
    usually contains pathetic ascii pictures and quotes from obscure
    friends?

    If you do, then here is your opportunity!!!!!! Participate in the
    great EDU BID FOR THE BRA. If you are a .edu lurker/squid/whatever
    send me a bid and we will add it up and make a collective bid!!
    The bra goes to the person with the maximum share in the total bid,
    but you would be one of the KsotB!!!

    I will start off by chipping in with $20.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    if my grand plan above fails ;-) which it is bound to, i will match
    each dollar of laxzszlso above $50 for the auction, to a maximum of
    $75 if i do not get a job, or to what-have-you if i do get a job in
    the near future. if laxzslo does not manage to win the auction, i will
    add $20 to whatever amount is finally arrived upon! there laz... i did
    my bit! ;-)

    peace,

    - ravi


-- 
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.sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one  | Ravi Narayan, CS, WPI
          end and flames at the other. (C).   | 89 SuzukiGS500E - Phaedra ;)
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Newsgroups: rec.humor
From: messiah@nevada.edu (mw)
Subject: pain in the royal posterior
Originator: messiah@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:01:23 GMT

For those of you who may be unaware that the post titled "Gorgeous girls
and lots of sex" is a set up let me warn you. As soon as I saw the title
I knew it was one of those attention geting propaganda slogans and I
responded accordingly, calling them on the fact that thier ploy was
conspicuously transparent. Unfortunately there were was a snag that I didn't
pay attention to, namely the fact that the post in question X-references to
scores of the most popularly read usenet groups and I've been flooded with 
automatic responses that do nothing more than regurgitate my original 
response. Anybody familiar with a reverse zap technique so I don't have
to keep editing my mail box? Thanx...

Marco

Newsgroups: rec.humor
From: bstdenis@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Brian St. Denis)
Subject: Re: Gastronomic eruptions 
Organization: Fort Worth Research and Development Center, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:13:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.150229.27505@rigel.econ.uga.edu> skip@rosalyn.stat.uga.edu (Skip Gundlach) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.003149.2571@merrimack.edu> nin15b63@merrimack.edu (The Wolf) writes:
>>K. Roper <ROPERK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes: 
>>>
>
>The above constitutes the OBJ, admittedly plagiarized...
>
>

Does OBJ stand for obligatory joke?

-- 

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From: 123paszek@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: annoying joke
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:15:29 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


Here is a really annoying joke.


Over seven  seas and 20 islands, and over many mountains there was a forest. 
Past this forest there was another forest and behind that one there was
another.  Past these forests there were long-stretching plains and plateaus. 
Then there were more snow-covered mountain ranges.  In one of the valleys in
these mountains there was a small hut made out of gingerbread.    One day,
out of this hut came out a little old lady.  She looked all around, and said,
"Fuck! I live far away."





BADOOM! TSSS.


(thank you, thank you.)


M.M.M.P.
From: 328@anon.smurf.sub.org (Anonymous User 328)
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: TEST! Ignore...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:16:27 +0100
Organization: Smurf-O-Box Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: smurf.sub.org
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-length: 48         

This is a test is a test is a test is a test...
From: judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Mike Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: Re: Adult Smilies
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:01:59 GMT
Reply-To: judson@watserv.ucr.edu

In article <1700@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> cwa@oasis.icl.co.uk (Chris Adams) writes:
> Yea what do all these wierd symbols mean anyway. I see loads of
> 
> 	:-)
> 
> 	8)
> 
> And other such stuff on the net, What the hell to they mean?
> 
> Excuse me if I'm being really slow...
> 


Tilt your head to the left.


--
If you ever fall off the Sears Tower, just go real limp, because 
maybe you'll look like a dummy and people will try to catch you 
because, hey, free dummy.

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.humor
From: sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood)
Subject: A man hiking in China
Keywords: man china idiot
Reply-To: sts@mfltd.co.uk
Organization: Micro Focus Ltd, Newbury, England
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:21:29 GMT

A young man was hiking through china, stopping in hotels at night.  One
night he couldn't find a hotel.  He had all but given up when he saw a large
house on the hillside.  He decided to try and get a room there for the night.
An old Chinese man answered the door.

"Yes, you can have a room for the night, but you must not touch my daughter
 or you will undergo three Chinese tortures", the old man said.

The man accepted this and went to his room for the night.  Sure enough, at 
midnight, the old mans beautiful daughter walks naked into the room, and the
young man can't resist her.

Next morning the young man wakes up.  The old mans daughter is gone, and
there is a large boulder on his chest.  Stuck to this boulder is a note
which says "First chinese torture, Large boulder on chest"

The young man thinks, 'I will get rid of this' and hurles the boulder through
an open window.  As he pushes the boulder, he notices a second note underneath
saying "Second chinese torture, Left testicle tied to boulder"

The young man instantly threw himself after the boulder out of the window.
As he passed over the window sill, he noticed another note saying
"Third chinese torture, Right testicle tied to bedpost"

Steve
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+-----------------------------------+------------------------+ Micro Focus
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| Living in a blaze of obscurity,   |      "rum ruff splat"  | Newbury
| Need courage to survive the day.  |                        | Berkshire
+-----------------------------------+------------------------+ England
      Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:27:56 EST
From: <GHADSAL@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: Wanted=Lawyer Joke List

I've seen a "listing" of Lawyers jokes out here, could someone please
forward the list to me.  I've been waiting several months for someone to
repost the "gem".

Thanks Alot!

Guy
ghadsal@american.edu
From: terjej@edb.tih.no (Terje Johansen,o90b)
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: The dangers of soccer
Date: 10 Jan 93 14:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: terjej@edb.tih.no
Posting-Front-End: Winix Conference v 92.05.15  1.20 (running under MS-Windows)

A man met a little boy on the street, carrying two suitcases. From one 
suitcase, a clanking noise was heard. Curious, he asked what was in it.
-I have been on the soccer field, said the kid.
-There there is a big wooden fence, with many  spyholes in it, where a 
lot of men use to watch the matches. Well, sooner or later they 
must take a leak. 
THEN is when I, standing on the other side, take hold of their dick and 
demand a dollar not to cut it off. Naturally, they pay at once. So this 
suitcase is full of dollar coins. 
-And the other suitcase?
-Well, said the kid, not everybody are always able to pay...

-- 
Terje Johansen at Trondheim College of Engineering, Norway.

War isn't fought to decide who is right
   but who is left.
From: stinswt@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: QUOTE OF THE DAY
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:20:20 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

A n n o u n c e m e n t

Starting Wednesday, January 13, 1993, QUOTE OF THE DAY is returning to a VAX
near you.  For those of you who do not know what QUOTE OF THE DAY is, it is a
service, provided by yours truly, that sends out a different quote each day. 
Sometimes they are funny, sometimes they are serious.  But I hand pick only the
finest quotes for your enjoyment.  For example, the very first quote sent out
by QUOTE OF THE DAY was:

     "A truly wise man never plays leap frog with a unicorn."

If you would like to be added to the QUOTE OF THE DAY list of users, please
e-mail STINSWT (while on WKU's VAX) or STINSWT@WKUVX1.BITNET (if you are on
another system) indicating that you wish to be added to the list.  If you read
this after the starting date, you may also request the quotes that have already
been sent out since January 13.

--------------------
William Todd Stinson
STINSWT@WKUVX1.BITNET
QUOTE OF THE DAY System Manager
Newsgroups: rec.humor
From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: READ MY LIPS...
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:10:13 GMT

In article <19218@mindlink.bc.ca> Robyn_Clark@mindlink.bc.ca (Robyn Clark) writes:
>        If there is a moderator on "rec.humor" why the fuck isn't he (she or
>it) doing his (her or it's) job by removing ALL offensive (non-humourous)
>material.
>
> [ gratuitous non-humourous bitching removed ]

Gee, I musta blinked. I think I missed the humour in your post there.
Try again.


OBJOKE:
Q: What's brown and sticky?
A: A stick.

(Yah, I know this has been posted before. Tough! It's more humour than
Robyn had in her post. Live with it.

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Newsgroups: rec.humor
From: will@wa4phy.async.com (Will Wilson)
Subject: Talking frog
Summary: Old man finds talking frog.
Keywords: Talking frog
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:15:40 GMT

This old man is walking along and sees a frog.  The frog says, "Hey
buddy, come here."  The old man walks over and the frog says, "Pick me
up."  So the guy picks up the frog.  Frog says, "If you rub me on my
head, I will turn in to a beautiful woman and I will do anything you
want me to do."  The old man puts the frog in his pocket and starts to
walk on.  The frog squirms and wiggles in his pocket and says, "Hey!
Take me out of your pocket!"  So the old man takes the frog out of his
pocket.  The frog says, "I said if you will rub me on the head I will 
turn into a beautiful woman and I will do anything you want."  To this
the man replies, "Look at my age, I would rather have a talking frog."

-- 
Will Wilson         Amateur Radio KC4GSS  *  uucp: gatech!dogwood!wa4phy.will
3823 Wright Reese Rd Warrenton, Ga 30828  *  internet:  will@wa4phy.async.com
"The stars might lie, but the numbers     ***********************************   
                             never do...I FEEL LUCKY!"  Mary-Chapin Carpenter
From: kens@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: Re: SMOKING
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:12:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax1.1993Jan12.211240.1
Followup-To: talk.bizarre,misc.jobs.offered,rec.humor,rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1993Jan6.234728.24049@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, carasso@Turing.ORG (Roger Carasso) writes:
> 
> Last week I went with some friends to the 50's Cafe for dinner.  They
> *did* *not* have a smoking section.  There was smoke all around.
> 
> Luckily, they had something else -- a jukebox selector at every table,
> and a restuarant full of people too cheap to put any money in.  Seeing
> a perfect chance to piss off the smokers as much as they pissed me
> off, I inserted 8 quarters... sat back... and delighted in the fact
> that for the next half hour everyone in the restaurant would be
> listening to the song "How much is that doggie in the Window"...
> 
> roger "ok, so my motives weren't that honorable"

Alright!  I think I would have done the same thing...  
Newsgroups: rec.humor
From: SENDIAA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Welcome to alt.non.sequitur
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 17:35:18 EST

In article <16B518F44.SENDIAA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
SENDIAA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
 
>
>In lieu of Our Founder, who has temporarily yanked himself out of the
>perilous verbal quicksands of this milieu, I take this opportunity to
>welcome all of those who have just arrived, and to run with a cheer and
>outstretched arms to those who have just returned.
>
>In response to the 43 messages I received this morning, all asking more or
>less, "How do I GET IN to alt.non.sequitur?" My answer is grim. It is not
>easy. You must undergo an incoherent series of tribulations before a tribunal
>while tripe-waving tribes jeer you into a trifle.
>
>Myself not vested with the authority to make final admissions decisions, I
>declare a temporary Open Door Policy. That is, for the next 72 hours, Anyone
>Can Join. And we'll even give you ragged blankets. Don't be Left In The Cold.
>And you'll get a steamy furry wet warm cup of hot chocolate.
>
>And in the warmth and comfort of your new deceptively hospitable environs, you
>can peruse such masterpieces as Socks and Dregs and Rolling Ruckus.
>
>Welcome to the land of filamental fudge sliding through polyester while the
>Chihuahua of the Land of Tlacatan gleefully chows two spiders, playing with
>the concepts embedded in the cozy gumdrops above while Dryden untunes the sky,
>mischievously, because ah, Rock could tell you and so could Heidi, without
>mischief there ain't no life. me tired, me need more sleep