From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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Subject: Re: Gagging at the mess of "visser the revisionist"s lies.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 15:32:34 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <By0q8F.FBn@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> iptsiant@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Panagiotis Tsiantopoulos) writes:

|> It could be, perhaps, that your head wasn't screwed on just right, "vizzy".
|> And this must be a common comprehension level shared by all the members
|> of the KGB. The PKK, the Marxist Kurdish Workers Party, was created by the 
|> KGB (vizzy's favorite clown). PKK is a pawn in the hands of the neighboring 
|> countries and Germany who have sinister designs on Turkiye. 

>Hey, if you 've got problems with the Germans, you better stop buying weapons 
>from them. Most of the weaponry Turkey bought a month ago was the rest of the 
>NVA (Nationale Volks Armee = National People's Army), with which lots of 

I love "paliks" who don't read and then spout myths as evidence. All in 
all KGB/PKK is just another brick in the wall. There is a saying in 
Turkish: 'Are you here to eat grapes or to beat the vineyard owner?' 
meaning, 'Are you here to get what you want or to use that demand as
a pretext to beat up the person from whom you are asking that service?'
It is a fact that the 'Aryan Kurds' live in feudal patriarchal clans
(kabile), or tribes (ashiret) and their loyalties are to their Agha
or Sheik. They have a tradition of brigandage and terror. Thanks to
their cross-border settlements, most of the time their crimes go
unpunished. Their terror organization PKK is quite active in Turkiye;
they raid the villages and the military camps, massacre the civilians
and the soldiers indiscriminately. PKK is a pawn in the hands of the
neighboring countries and Germany who have sinister designs on 
Turkiye. In the 1960's it became apparent to the KGB that it
would not be possible to conquer the Western World by war in the
nuclear age without destroying the USSR as well. So, it invented
what we now call 'state terrorism' as a tool of Soviet foreign 
policy. That involved the services of client states such as Syria
and Iraq and occasionally other states, to let the dirty work be
done by others. In the 1960 and 1970's the KGB is said to have
spent $1 billion specifically to destabilize Turkiye. 

Wait, there is more.

Source: 'Hagop Hagopian said to have been part of 1972 Terror Attack at
Munich Olympic Games,' The Armenian Reporter, February 7, 1985, p. 1.

"Le Matin, the influential Paris daily, based on unidentified sources,
 claimed last week that Hagop Hagopian, the founder and leader of one
 faction of the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia 
 (ASALA), was among the Arab terrorists who staged an attack on the 
 living quarters of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic Games... 
 Le Matin added that up to 1982, Hagopian operated out of Beirut, 
 Lebanon, but escaped from the country when Israeli forces entered the 
 city. It was about this time that a statement issued by ASALA claimed 
 that Mr. Hagopian was dead of wounds suffered during a bombing by the 
 Israeli Air Force, although it is generally believed that the 
 mysterious leader is alive and well and presently is residing 
 alternately in Damascus, Syria, and Athens, Greece. The paper also 
 noted that the socialist government of Prime Minister Andreas 
 Papandreou and his P.A.S.O.K. party accepted the Armenian underground 
 leader with 'open arms' and still providing him with assistance simply 
 because of Greece's traditional enmity with Turkey.

 Le Matin further adds that ASALA derives only a small portion of its
 expenditures from wealthy Armenians who support the cause, with the 
 rest coming either from other sources or from proceeds of an 
 involvement in drug trafficking. The paper asserts that Bulgarian 
 authorities also assist ASALA in obtaining all types of weapons that 
 are used against Turkish targets and diplomats."

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

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