From: kytan@mantra.fia.dmg.ml.com (Kok-Yong Tan)
Subject: Re: open letter/Dwight/apologies
Organization: Organised?  Here?  Hahahahahahahaha.....
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:19:28 GMT

In article <ges.19.0@boris.net.com> ges@boris.net.com (G.E. Song) writes:

   Perhaps Dwight wants a collective apology. All of us know that both
   the Chinese and the Japanese have misbehaved in the past. They should
   both applogise. Unfortunately, I don't think a Chinese apology would mean
   anything. They chinese have misbehaved in the past and they are still 
   misbehaving now. I happen to know a few Burmese (Mynmar) students and a 
   Burmese university academic. They told me how the chinese were suplying arms
   to burma and denying to the rest of the world that this was happening. An 
   apology would from the chinese would not mean anything. They may apologize
   -if they felt that this suited them- and carry on misbehaving as they always 
   had. Another chinaman once told me that "the only thing straight about a 
   chinaman is his hair .... even then a lot of chinamen want it curled." 

Well, I'm ethnically Chinese and a Singaporean by nationality.  And I DON'T
want my hair curled!!  Oh, and I'm heterosexual, too, just in case your
definition of "straight" has other connotations.  Jeez.

   I don't know if this is cultural or genitic but it seems that where ever you
   see a lot of chinamen together in one place, it becomes a reciepe for 
   disaster. (traids, extortion, .. etc). I read recently how Madonna got into
   trouble with the triads in Hong Kong. 

Oh, I see.  I guess you've never heard of La Cosa Nostra, eh?  Nor the Yakuza,
I take it?  Those US prosecutors must be hallucinating.  Of course, in your
eyes, John Gotti is "just another businessman victimised by the State" and
there are no such things as the Genovese (sp?), Colombo and other crime
families.  Nor are there any criminals in Medellin, Columbia either, I bet.

   Singapore, which has a chinese majority, - and the government there wants to 
   keep it that way by a combination of its official policies and propoganda 
   disguised as "citizen education" through the government controlled tv 
   station - understands the pre-disposition of the chinese people towards 
   deviant behaviour. That is whythere are such draconian laws in Singapore. I 
   am not saying that all chinesetend to misbehave. Unfortunately, it seems 
   that many are pre-disposed towards it. It seems to be -to put it loosely- a 
   statistical norm. I can't comment about the Japanese because I know very few 
   of them. However, I am very well placed to comment about the Chinese. (for 
   obvious reasons which may be apparent to some)

Admittedly, Singapore is a very controlled country.  However, the crime rate is
pretty low there.  If, by your logic, less draconian laws indicate a lower
predisposition of the population towards "deviant behaviour," why is the crime
rate so astronomical here in the United States?   

   The point I am trying to get across is that a chinese apology is not worth
   getting since it is not going to mean anything.

Oh good. Because you're definitely not getting one from me.

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