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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: 5 signed, Lawton not signed
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:19:42 GMT

The Sharks announced yesterday that they have signed 5 players to termination
contracts, making them free agents without compensation at the end of the
year.  Goalie Brian Hayward and wingers Perry Anderson, Perry Berezan, Paul
Fenton, and Steve Bozek each agreed to a one-year contract.

Winger Brian Lawton had been expected to sign a termination contract as well,
but negotiations failed to beat the deadline at midnight last night, making
Lawton a free agent (with compensation, I believe).  The Sharks said that they
would continue to negotiate with Lawton.

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: romano@monolith.bellcore.com (Paul C. Romano)
Subject: RANGERS NEWS: Djoos signs new contract
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:32:03 GMT

	The New York RANGERS announced that defenseman Per Djoos has 
signed a new contract, ending the speculation that he was planning on
returning to Sweden this season. 

	The RANGERS also appear to be in the process of buying out the
contracts of forward John Ogrodnick & defenceman Normand Rochefort. Neither
was protected in the recent NHL expansion draft.

	With regard to the compensation hearing scheduled for later this
week for the Lightning's signing of free agent Rob Zamuner, the RANGERS are
reportedly asking for a 3rd-round draft choice in 1993, while the Lightning 
are believed to be offering Dan Vincelette, acquired from Chicago in the
expansion draft.


Paul Romano
RSH Contact - NY Rangers
romano@monolith.bellcore.com


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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Penguins' pick dead
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:18:01 GMT
Organization: HMS

Just picked something off the wire machine up here...


Artem Kopot, the first Russian ever drafted by the Pittsburgh Penguins,
was killed in a one-car accident near his home in Chelyabinsk,RUSSIA.

-Mark
From: micbrian@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MAD MAX - THE ROAD WARRIOR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Rogie Vachon...
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <31JUL199212110702@pavo.concordia.ca>, p_emond@pavo.concordia.ca (PATRICK EMOND) writes...
> 
>   Rogatien (Rogie) Vachon died Wednesday of cancer, he was 40. He had only
>recently learned of his condition, he was rumored to be the Ottawa Senators'
>choice for goaltending coach (Glenn 'Chico' Resch got the job). My Kings
>jacket and goalie stick are at half-mast...

I think you mean Michel 'Bunny' Laroque, former Habs goaltender, here.
Rogie Vachon is alive and in the hierarchy of the LA Kings.

Brian
From: johann@jester.usask.ca (James Johannesson,E1 Admin,x6763,0000000)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Lyndon Byers...outta here!
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:27:25 GMT
Reply-To: johann@jester.usask.ca
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Originator: johann@jester.usask.ca

From article <1670@hsdndev.UUCP>, by nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219):
> Lyndon Byers,28,6-foot-1,200lbs,RW, was given his unconditional
> release by the Boston Bruins yesterday. He cleared the waivers
> and is free to lan a job elsewhere.
> 
> Right wing is one postion where Boston now has alot of depth.
> A healthy Cam Neely,Steve Leach,Glen Murray,Steve Heinze,1st round
> choice Dmitri Kvartalnov,6th round choice Jiri Dopita figure to be
> with the club come training camp.
> 
> Byers never stayed in the lineup long enough to realize his potential
> beyond fisticuffs. 
> 
> -Mark

This brings up a couple of interesting points for Boston.

a.) Without Byers, who is there "tough" guy??? I mean without Neely
in the lineup, Byers spent alot of his time protecting Ray Bourque and
the goalies cause no one else (except maybe Steve Leach) seemed to
stand up to anyone. L.B. wasn't the type of guy to take that... as for
Boston, I hope for Cam's sake they aren't going to let Neely fight all his
own battles... it will wear him out to much.

b.) Lyndon Byers was a *good* friend of Neely's (as a matter of fact, they
travelled to the Far East together, appear in the Extreme video "Whole-Hearted"
together (yes, they are in there), and also hang out with Michael J Fox
during the summer). I am curious if this will affect Neely's production
at all. (Btw, I got this information on Neely/Byers from Don Cherry's 
Grapevine when Neely was on and Byers was there last fall.).

Anyways, just my two cents worth...... I guess I just like Byers... 
good kid and hard working.... 

James
-- 
James Johannesson                    |  Univeristy of Saskatchewan
Programmer (Systems)                 |  Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Registrar's Office                   |  CANADA (brrrrrrrr :-)
Internet: johann@jester.usask.ca     | NFHL GM: Calgary 'Lames
From: ssawin@bbn.com (Scott Sawin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Gil STein will change the NHL
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:04:03 GMT
Reply-To: ssawin@ccv1.bbn.com (Scott Sawin)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Jul16.224103.22463@erg.sri.com> vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad) writes:
>
>Bull. Fighting does not help intensity. There is no fighting in volleyball
>but the intensity there is at least as high.

We all know how violent those blood thursty volleyball players get on the 
beach.  Especially when someone spills their wine cooler.

Scott
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Renegotiation
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:50:54 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Jul22.145230.1721@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>
>Yes, as a fan I complain about the sky-rocketing price of this sport.  But
>I also know that if I was a player, I would probably do the same thing as
>Barrasso, Jagr and all the others.  I'd try to get as much money as I could.
>I'd be a hypocrite if I said that these guys are wrong.
>
>And I do complain about Bonds, but if he can find a team that's willing to
>pay him 30 million, more power to him.  
>
>And as for players giving money back if they have a bad year, why should they?
>I've worked with people that didn't deserve the salary they made, yet I didn't
>see them returning any money.  Nor did I see them get fired.  So why should
>athletes have to it?
>
>Lori
>

The point Anna was trying to make is that after one or two good years, you
see athletes demanding to re-negotiate a SIGNED contract, because they
are now seen as worth more than when they originally signed that deal.
We are not talking about a player who plays out his contract, and then for
the next one, thinks he's worth a big raise.  We're talking about the
guys that sign a 4 or 5 year deal and suddenly because in year 1 has a
50 goal/120 point season, says "Pay me more, or I'm not going to play."
It's become almost accepted in sports that this can happen in the player's
favor, but heaven help us if the owners tried to reverse re-negotiate a
contract.  Pick your favorite player that had a bad year...what if the 
owner said that they were going to pay him less on his signed contract?
No chance.  

It came up during this past season where Theoren Fleury was given the
chance by the team to re-negotiate.  He said (to the effect), "No, I signed
that contract, I'll live by it.  Maybe they'll make it up to me in the next
one."  That showed class.  In a year that had many other players sitting
out while still under contract, Phil Housley, quietly played out his option
and let his agent deal with Mike Smith.  No big grandstanding moves.


===============================================================    
Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca -or- dturner@mailbox.bison.mb.ca 
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4  (please route through 348/700)
Ulanov up to Davydov, over to Zhamnov, he shoots, he scores! 
The Jets win the Cup!  The Jets win the Cup!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: Olympics in 199?
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:13:30 GMT

In article 18054@trentu.ca, pyacm@trentu.ca (A Colin Morton) writes:
>In article <hamlet.712425957@milton> hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan) writes:
>>psycho@brtpa25.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski) writes:
>>
>>>	Your friend is correct. The 1994 Winter Olympics will be held in
>>>Lillehammer, Norway. The following Winter Olympics will be held in 1998
>>>at a site that, I believe, has yet to be determined.
>>
>>Nagano, Japan.
>>
>On a related note, I note that two more short-track speed skating events
>and (ta-daaaa!) women's hockey will be medal events at Nagano.
>

Close. Women's hockey will be a demo sport in Nagano, a full-fledged medal
sport in 2002.

--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com)
From: matthew@wavefront.wti.com (Matthew Coohill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Olympics in 199?
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:10:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Wavefront Technologies Inc, Santa Barbara, CA
X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc.


	This is going to sound almost as DUMB as 99% of the Lindros
  flame/anti-flame postings, but...

	Does anyone know where and when the next winter olympics are
  to be held???

	A friend of mine has informed me that they will be staggering
  the summer and winter Olympics and that the next winter Olympics will
  occur in 1994.  Maybe he's pulling my leg, but could someone reply
  to me at r.s.h. or my e-mail address to confirm or deny this.

	And now to continue with the Lindros/Sammeulson saga...

	When we last left our heroes/villians, their repective fans were
  arguing what will happen during the INEVITABLE (sarcasm) first conflict
  between them.  And the polls are in, the results are...

	Lindros will deliver a crushing check to the mighty Ulf.  Ulf, in
  return, will moan "Mario, Mario, why hath thou abandon me?", then promptly
  collapse and die on the ice.  On the third day, he will rise again (in
  fulfillment of the scriptures) and ascend to the Stanley Cup Finals and
  remain triumphant.  He will be seated at the right hand of the Mario and
  he will reign in heaven forever and ever.  Thus fulfilling the prophecy
  and all that 3 stuff that is in the Bible will come true when the Pens win
  the 3rd Cup in a row.  And then Mr. Roger's will become Pope (I think I'm
  overstepping my bounds now...)  Oh Yeah!  Then there will be a contract
  renagotiation, since Ulf will be responsible for bring Pittsburgh the third
  Cup in a row ( insert player here ______ ;-) ).  And finally
  rec.sport.hockey will be flodded with posts that the _______s are just a
  bunch of whimps who luckily won the Stanley Cup.  They should have been
  beaten by the ________s.  And the _____ is a "fag" because he's the player
  getting the most attention recently.

	However, soon afterwards, the earth will be flooded for 40 days and
  nights.  All the NHL players will be drowned, but Bruce McNall will build
  an arc and bring 2 players from each team on it so that when things dry
  out, the players can reproduce and multiply.

	SO... who are your picks???  Who's going to survive???  Who will
  be picked from each team???  Send your answers to the great oracle...

	rec.sport.hockey

	Since Bruce is Noah... we'll just say that Gretsky is a MUST on
  the list.  And BTW, did I mention that Ulf makes great wine or is that
  Mario makes great whine (boooo!!!  sorry I had to ;-))


  matthew@wavefront.wti.com (Wavefront's resident NHL fan)
From: lucas@kbomfg.enet.dec.com (Dell-Roy Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: AHL season stats
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:48:29 GMT
Organization: "Digital Equipment Co., Kaufbeuren, Germany"


Does anyone have or know of a list like the NHLstats_91-92 for the AHL.

If someone does have one could they please post it here or e-mail me a copy.


Dell-Roy Lucas     
Kaufbeuren, Germany
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio)
Subject: Re: Black road jerseys (was Re: Flyers jersey?)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:07:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.234444.7605@pixel.kodak.com> clare@bissun.kodak.com (Bill Clare) writes:
>Actually, the Penguins did not copy the Bruins colors, as many folks think.
>The Penguins copied the Steelers and Pirates, both of whom use black and gold,
>both of whom won their respective league championships in 1979.  The Penguins
>were trying to cash in on their success a little.


Of course, what the management didn't realize was that the underlying
team still sucked....  I guess it was cheaper to change the uniforms
that to improve the team....

-JPC

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Subject: Penguins Stanley Cup Win in Newspaper?
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 12:06:29 GMT


From what I hear on NPR, the Pittsburgh Post Gazette went to press today
after not going to press for 2 months.  However, the Teamsers (who are
striking PPG and Press) are blocking the distribution.

In any case, if anyone in pittsburgh got a copy of the PPG, is there any
mention oof the Pens cup win?
-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
Pro-Choice/Pro-Clinton/Gore '92
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: schedules still wanted
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:41:36 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi.  It's me again, whining pathetically for schedules.  I have the
following schedules and will gladly mail them to whomever asks:

LA Kings, Ottawa Sentators, Toronto Maple Leafs, Pittsburgh Penguins
San Jose Sharks and Buffalo Sabres.

(Many thanks to those who sent them to me, even if just to shut me up
and let everyone get back to real hockey discussions.)

I still need the following schedules so that I can waste this summer 
doing the grunt work for nhl.c (while Rob Springall tries to find
time to do some improvements and retooling):

Boston Bruins
Calgary Flames
Chicago Blackhawks
Detroit Red Wings
Edmonton Oilers
Hartford Whalers
Minnesota North Stars
Montreal Canadiens
New Jersey Devils
New York Islanders
New York Rangers
Philadelphia Flyers
Quebec Nordiques
Saint Louis Blues
Tampa Bay Lightning
Vancouver Canucks
Washington Capitals
Winnipeg Jets

Again, I'll cover postage if it's an offline copy that you don't want
to type in.  Just send me mail and I'll give you my address.
Let me know the method you want to cover postage (personal
check/cheque from US bank, US postage stamp, 40 Canadian cents tossed
into an envelope to make the USPS and Canada Post folks laugh, 40 US
cents headed to Canada to do the same thing, or your own creative 
payment plan).  

Thanks again.  

--
Valerie Hammerl               	Underemployed technical writer seeks
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu        job in North America.  Willing to 
v085pwpz@ubvms.bitnet           relocate.  Can begin any time.
These accounts expire August 24th 1992, or thereabouts.
future account(I hope): cd397@cleveland.freenet.edu -> not yet active
Organization: Senior, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 01:04:04 -0400 
From: Pravin Devineni Ratnam <pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Renegotiation
	<3419@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>

Joseph McDonald writes:
***************************
The difference is, when Barrasso and Jagr are offered generous and fair
deals, they will sign.  If the Bucs offer Bonds $30 Million for 5 years he
will hold out for $35 Million because he knows that some other team will
come up with the cash.  
*****************************

The difference between Binds and Jagr is that Bonds did not threaten to
hold out after he lost last year's arbitration although DFrabek won his.
In comparison to Drabek, Bonds was underpaid.

IN any case, the analogy was made just for the sake of an example. The
point is once a contract is signed, the deal's done. Let's not talk
about Barasso since people don't seem to be sure whether the option for
the one year extension belongs to the Pens or Barasso. Let's talk about
JAgr. I would pay him more than a million to have him on my team. If I
was Craig Patrick , I would hacve out in some incentives to keep from
getting disenchanted and providing him wirth motivation to the play
better. However, this time the Pens hit the jackpot. Jagr has to abide
by his contract and be patient for a humongous deal once he becomes a
free agent.  He wouldn't have earned close to $200,000 if Craig Patrick
didn't help him get out of Checkoslovakia.I bet you wouldn't see Jagr
refund his salary if he turned out to be a  bad player.
From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: nhl schedules wanted
Date: 25 Jul 92 16:26:15 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi again.  I'm still looking for copies of NHL schedules so that I can
get some of the overhaul of nhl.c done before I lose this account.
Thus far I have the following teams:  Buffalo, San Jose, Los Angeles,
Toronto.  Three people were kind enough to send me the Kings'
schedule.  My thanks to all of them.  If you have a copy of one of the
other twenty teams' schedules and it's not online and you aren't up to
typing the whole thing in, let me know and I'll give you my address
and you can send a copy of it through the postal service (Canada Post,
US Postal Service, or any other).  I'll reimburse you for your US
stamp with a 29 cent one, I'll toss you forty cents for Canadian
(either a US check(cheque) from Buffalo, forty cents Canadian, or even
forty cents US if you want it.  No other foreign currencies -- I
collect those).  In short, I'm begging all of you for the following
schedules:  
Boston Bruins
Calgary Flames
Chicago Blackhawks
Detroit Red Wings
Edmonton Oilers
Hartford Whalers
Minnesota North Stars
Montreal Canadiens
NY Islanders
NY Rangers
Ottawa Senators
Philadelphia Flyers
Pittsburgh Penguins
Quebec Nordiques
Saint Louis Blues
San Jose Sharks
Tampa Bay Lightning
Vancouver Canucks
Washington Capitals
Winnipeg Jets


Thanks!

--
Valerie Hammerl               	Underemployed technical writer seeks
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu        job in North America.  Willing to 
v085pwpz@ubvms.bitnet           relocate.  Can begin any time.
These accounts expire August 24th 1992, or thereabouts.
From: edward@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ted Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Bruins sched WANTED
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:55:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada


 Hello.
  I was wondering if anybody has a copy of the Boston Bruins schedule. If so,
 please post or e-mail me a copy. I'm particularly interested in the games
 between October 8 and 12.

                Thanks in advance,
                    -ted
                       edward@ug.cs.dal.ca

                          
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: zeke@meadow.uucp (Samuel Lee)
Subject: Re: NHL Olympians
Summary: The solution is simple: hockey in the summer.	
Keywords: hockey, Olympics, summer, NHL 
Reply-To: zeke@meadow.UUCP (Samuel Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Canada Ltd., Software Development Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 12:44:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul16.141601.3041@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> lipinski_todd@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com (Todd Lipinski) writes:
>
>The Olympics are right in the middle of the NHL season.  

The solution is simple:  move hockey to the Summer Games.

-- Zeke.
From: vander@flab.fujitsu.co.jp
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Comparison of injuries (was: Gil Stein)
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:42:09 GMT
	<1992Jul20.025620.15707@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<1992Jul20.113225.25811@ericsson.se>
	<1992Jul20.201414.13271@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., Kawasaki, Japan

In article <1992Jul20.201414.13271@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin Roberts) writes:

[good comments about fighting deleted]

> 	I also happen to believe that somewhere there is the technology
> to put some sort of magnet in the puck and a sensor on the goal-fram
> so that there would be no question of wether or not the puck crossed the 
> plane. (unrelated topic but I just thought of it!)

If I were an enterprising player, I'd put a similar magnet on the
blade of my stick (or part of the tape?).  Then during a scramble,
I could have my stick break the plane of the goal, thereby causing
the sensor to go off and count a goal for my team.

I wonder how easy it would be to detect and/or penalize players for 
doing that?

> 	It is a stupid theory that there should be three "officials" on
> the ice but a penalty can only be called if a certain one sees it!

Couldn't agree with you more!  Look at basketball!

-- 
Mike van der Velden             
s-mail: Distributed Systems Laboratory, Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd.
        1015, Kamikodanaka Nakahara-ku, Kawasaki 211, Japan
e-mail: vander@tokyo.hi.flab.fujitsu.co.jp