From: Ramin Shamsili, Dep. Inorganic Chemistry,7034,Trondheim,Norway (Ramin G. Shamsili)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Turkish Journalist Assasinated; Islamic Interpretation?
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:23:45 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

I wrote :
> In article <1993Jan25.101553.25722@ugle.unit.no> Ramin Shamsili, Dep. Inorganic Chemistry,7034,Trondheim,Norway (Ramin G. Shamsili) writes:
> >In article <1jukc0INNj00@morrow.stanford.edu> hq.ggg, HQ.GGG@forsythe.stanford.edu writes:
> >
> >The following news is taken from soc.culture.turkish; 
> >As the discussion on Islamic interpretation and Islamic rules continues in
> >our news group : soc.culture.iranian, I thought maybe someone can respond 
> >to the following question after reading the following news:
> >
> >Question : Is there any where in Islamic instruction and rules which makes it
> >HalAl or MobAh to take the life of a journalist with different way of thinking
> >and what will the supporters of Islamic goverment ( any kind of it, or is there
>
 > >The first newspaper I read in Turkish was Cumhuriyet; Ever since
> >I have followed Ugur Mumcu+s  column in the paper with enthusiasm and
> >admiratrion although I did not agree with him 100%.
> >I cry for Ugur Mumcu and all the victims of violence and terrorism. May
> >his soul rest in peace........ 
> >

Zafar says:

> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What the hell kind of a question is this? Does
> Islam allow you to kill someone just because you disagree with him/her?
>

I+m glad YOU believe that. What if that disagreement is put in action in form of
writting articles or BOOKS (NOVELS; etc.!!!). I mean if there are still people
looking for a certain author around the world in order to obey a certain holly
order then it is reasonable to assume that the above response of yours is only
one interpretation.Correct me if I+m wrong!

And ... he writes:

> BTW, i want to make clear that mumcu was killed by the bulgari secret
> intelligence. it was not the work of muslim radicals.
> 
> zafar

BTW, how can you be sure that it was not the radical muslims? 
 Because they are muslims and muslims dont ELIMINATE others who think 
differently?!!!
Or you simply think :
i) Mumcu+s articles lately about ISLAMIC TERRORIST groups and his warnings 
in TV etc., even dont make it reasonable to suspect these groups.
ii) The fact that in the past few months several intellectual who have defended the SECULAR
political system in Turkey have been assasinated and in every case some so called
Islamic radical group has taken the responsibility,is nothing of importance, just a 
coincidence!!

Now listen, having said all this, I have to add that personally I think it is not correct
to begin accusing Islamic groups for this act before evidence is provided. Mumcu had revealed a lot about
Mafia operations in Turkey as well as questioning PKK+s relationships with
different regional powers. So the possiblities are a lot.
However, what is strange about your post is that you get angry like HELL when
I ask a question which I think is very realistic and based upon many facts (i.e.
intolerence of some BELIEVERS towards non relegious thinkers), but you do not show
any sympathy with a popular and seriuos writer which was blown in pieces while
his wife and children were about to join him in the car!
Terrorism is terrorism, no matter the color and the formal ideology which
it is hidden under. 
Shouldn+t we all pray HELL for these killers than getting jumpy about a question?
ramin
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