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From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Recent Releases
Date: 21 Aug 92 08:48:26 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Technology

cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:

>In article <Bt9y82.4us@matilda.vut.edu.au> jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>>>Archer & Armstrong is just brilliant. Easily valiants best title. I

>>BWS art looks hopeless in this title. I've only seen a bit of his Conan
>>stuff and Weapon X and I enjoyed it. Unfortunately the art in Archer
>>& Armstrong is weak. The difference between Weapon X and A&A is so
>>extreme you cannot tell it is the same artist.

>Needless to say, I disagree with you. I'm not an art expert and I
>certainly cannot tell you in technical detail why the art on A&A is
>great, but I like it. It may seem like a standard response, but compared
>to some of the art in other comics right now, it is amazing.

Well you'll be glad to know I took another looks at it in my
comic store today. The art looked a little better than what
I had remembered. The layouts were nice but I just did not
like the pencilling. For some nice BWS art (with an okay
story) check out Weapon X (Wolverine story) in Marvel Comics
Presents 72 to ?? It's very dark and moody. I expect that in
a few years it may be put out as a trade paperback but I think
that it would look worse on good quality paper.

>another reason why I like it is because it stands out from the other
>Valiant titles. I don't object to the kind of uniform studio art that
>Valaint uses, but it is nice to see something stand out from the pack
>and A&A does that admirably.

Well I don't get any Valiant titles so I can't comment 
very well. I did look at Solar Man of Atom once and the art 
looked fairly solid.

>Whatever your faults with the art, you can't knock the writing. The only
>other comic I collect that makes me laugh like this title does is
>X-Factor. There are obviously funnier comics out there, but you might be
>hard pressed to find one that mixes humour and action so well. Also, one
>of (if not the) best buddy comic out there.

X Factor does not make me laugh so A&A wouldn;t.

Jed
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: RAC Shakeup DFANDOM is Born, and a question for whoever...
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:20:27 MDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug13.030053.305@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
> This will replace r.a.c. along with all the other r.a.c.stuff
>      rec.arts.comics.dvandom
Dave,
	I'm kinda hoping that this thread is true!  I mean I showed your
story to a bunch of teenage girls that my sister hangs out with and they
went bonkers!  ( OK it wasn't YOUR story, but nonetheless you are becoming
a rac icon! (The story I refer to is "The Day the Earth Cringed" (Ship of
Fools (by Michael Molinsky (BTW how is he!? (In Idaho still? (I wonder how
many parenthesis I can nest before I crash this thing!  ( Its starting to
look like a LISP program ( if you don't understand what LISP is then you
are blessed! (and why should you ! (this is rac.misc (rec.arts.comics.misc 
(Right?  (Now where was I ( oh gotta unparenthisize this whole mess (I
guess I should start now! ))))))))))))))))  Did I get them all?  Now what
was I saying...  The story has traveled to my brother in Brazil, to California
and all over Utah, I am thinking of mailing it to a friend in Rome, Italy...
You have quite a following, especially after that brilliant posting:
	"Lynching Anyone!?"  great literature, I guess a few net Whackos
too many couldn't handle it!  This posting is REALLY pointless, huh?
I'll probably get flamed by someone who gets really perturbed that I would
post this in this newsgroup, but I am waiting for an E-mail message to 
bounce, and it was sent to Estonia, so it might take sometime.
	I heard Jim Lee did some pencilling for Barbie, the comic, before
he got swelled and became a comic god... Is this true?  I sorta noticed that
he didn't mention it in his autobiography  he wrote (you usually do write
your own autobiographies!) at the premier issue of WildCATs... (My younger
brother is a fanboy, he bought it, I just read it!)  Well anyhow, I worry 
with Jim in Images clutches will there be no end to the sizes of the breasts
of his female (duh.) characters?!  I see no end in sight!  This is truly 
tragic!  
    		Well gotta run, I guess it made it to Estonia, cuz I haven't
heard any strange beeps yet!  I guess my dad will get that joint research 
project with NASA and the Soviet Space agency...  At least that's what they
think!  Heh, Heh !  Little do they know of the Evil plottings of Captain
CoreDump!  Well my fanboy brother is bugging me again, so gotta go!
							wReam...

P.S.  Thanks to all the replies about Life as a SuperHero!  I guess all the
rest of you that didn't respond have secret identities to preserve!  I guess
that's another part of herodom I hadn't antecipated...

P.P.S.  This posting is done all in humor... (I won't say good humor, cuz
that'll start a flame war for sure!)  I really am not a serious person,
most of the time... (Sound Familiar?)  So all you net whackos!  Please
don't try to kill me or anything...  It would really ruin my day!  :)
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239)
Subject: Re: Godzilla and Shogun Warriors
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:22:08 GMT

In article <66443@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt5878b@prism.gatech.EDU (Eddie Maise) writes:
>In <1992Aug19.133512.9078@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>
>>Still, I was always kind of disappointed that we never got that Shogun
>>Warriors-Godzilla crossover. Or better yet, a Godzilla-Shogun
>>Warriors-Micronauts crossover. Now that would have been interesting.
>
>Hmm.. Issue number fails me, but I'm certain that in the last dozen issues
>of the Fantastic Four *before* John Byrne started his much-acclaimed (and
>much deserved) run, there was a two issue story dealing with Godzilla
>that had the Shogun Warriors (or at least one of them).
>
It was Fantastic Four #226 which also featured Bill Sienkwicz (sp?) art.
The story delt with human pilots of the Warriors seeking the FF's help
in tracking down another giant robot which had succeeded in destroying
their robots. In retrospect a rather weak ending to a title I always
enjoyed.

Godzilla disappeared from Marvel at the end of the regular series. The
Ff along with just about every hero in NY helped to get rid of him and
he has not graced the pages since. A couple of his foes have, however.
That giant bigfoot thing appeared in West Coast Avengers at some point.
Also Dr. Demoniculus (sp?) has also graced a few issues of the WCA.

Micronauts also made a brief cameo in the pages of the X-men after their
untimely demise. It as in some bar scene and we see various member of
the Micronauts drinking and carrying on. I forget which isue it was. I
rather hope they are doing that rather than being martyrs in a
substandard finale to their second series.

Any other giant robot/mini-alien/giant monster questions?

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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH Massacre
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:11:23 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <m79ml4#.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>I don't have any details on this (actually, some details were given,
>and I promptly forgot them), but it appears that the entire LSH team
>is gone except for Tom and Mary Bierbaum.  (I don't know as of which
>issue this will take effect.)  New artists and a new editor are being
>brought in.  Sprouse is still doing Legionnaires.
>

Except for the Bierbaums?

Jeez, that's kind of like saying "I'm going to clean the apartment today,
except I'm not going to get rid of the dust."

The Bierbaum's are the PROBLEM!
-- 
The world is not analog. The world is digital,
with an incredible number of bits.
Arthur C. Adams (not the comic-book artist)                        <fnord>
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From: dml@athena.mit.edu (David M LaMacchia)
Subject: Re: Ambush Bug/TICK/Etc.
Keywords: Interesting, more info
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:48:02 GMT

>In <1992Aug13.225733.20615@cco.caltech.edu> jwf@kastor.ccsf.caltech.edu (Jon Flower) writes:

>>Also, can anyone recommend other good books in a similar (funny) vein?

Sam and Max: Freelance Police.  In fact, a reprint color special was just
published (released Friday) that's a good starter.  As the ad says, "The
charming tale of a bunny, a dog, and large-caliber automatic weapons."  Plus
a hell of a lot of jabs at pop culture. :-)

--dave
-------------
Max: Here's an experiment you can do: leave a bag of bread on top of the 
refrigerator for a long time.  It will eventually turn grey and taste bad.
Now throw it in the street.
----
Sam: Where *do* you keep that gun?
Max: None of your damn business, Sam.
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: grendel
Keywords: Interesting, more info
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:32:03 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun) writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.184536.16540@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239) writes:
>> 
>> Anyway, here's a loaded question for you all out there. Could someone
>> give a BRIEF summary of the series so I can better understand what is
>> happening.

>The best SHORT description would be the blurb in the inside front cover
>and the stuff Wagner wrote in the lettercol.  A long description would be
>a term paper.  :-)

>Interesting note:  this issue is labeled as "Chapter 41: Devil in the Desert".

>> I can't find any issues around here yet and don't have any
>> money left over anyway (see my posting on marketplace). Is there a TPB
>> out reprinting the old stuff?

>There are several, ALL out of print:
>- DEVIL BY THE DEED.  The story of the "Hunter Rose" Grendel and his eventual
>  downfall.

>- <name?>  The story of Christine Spar, Rose's granddaughter, who became
>  Grendel to avenge the death of her son by the vampiric Tujiro.

    I believe this was caled The Devil Reborn, or something close to
that. Really neat looking art by the Panda Bros.

>- Another TPB showing Brian Su Ling's (Christine's friend and occasional
>  lover) descent into the Grendel persona.

    This one was called the Devil Inside, with some really dark and
foreboding artwork done by, umm... damn oh yeah Bernie Mirault. Who is
actually one of he better inkers in the business, IMHO.

>The first TPB collects the Grendel story that originally appeared as a backup
>in selected issues of Wagner's MAGE (a fine series on its own right).

>The last two TPBs cover the first 16 issues of the run of the GRENDEL comic,
>which ran for 40 issues before Wagner ran out of ideas at the time.

    Hopefully, Dark Horse will be releasing TPBs for the other chapters
in the Grendel Saga. I think it would be cool to have compilations of
the 2 that dealt with Orian Assante, aka the Grendel Kahn.

    For those of you who are new to the story, all I can really say is
read and try to go with the flow until DH starts reprinting the TBPs in
the next year or so. Those previous 40 issues span about 500 years of
development of the Grendel character, psyche, and persona. And Conty is
dean on saying that to really explaing it would be a term paper, if not
a full book in and of itself.
    You knoe what could be cool, having a Grendel Annotation, like
Elmo's Sandman Annotations. Of course I'm not volunteering to write
them, but I think I could contribute some stuff. If would certainly be a
good way to get new readers involved with some of the past history.

    Then is we were really masochistic we could do the same for Cerebus!


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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Cerebus 112-113?
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:29:57 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

What's in Cerebus 112-113, which aren't going to be reprinted?

Also, for the keeper of the appearances list, he's on the cover of
Images of Omaha 2, and in What's New? With Phil and Dixie (one-panel
appearance in a strip on lycanthropy...  guess what a were-aardvark
looks like?)
-- 
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: The "Rex the Wonder/Ninja Dog" Controversy
Keywords: Gol-durn!  It's spreadin' like wildfire!
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 08:10:12 GMT

Notice, if you would, that in the AMBUSH BUG NOTHING SPECIAL, at the point
following the manga takeoff, Keith and Robert (off-panel in the bar) get
into a drunken argument, dealing mainly with whether Rex was the "Wonder
Dog" or the "Ninja Dog."  Bob Fleming ends the page yelling "Ninja, ninja,
ninja!" to punctuate his argument.

Segue, if you will, to the new Baron and Rude NEXUS: The Origin.  In the
final paragraph of Baron's text page, he has a few messages for various
people.  To Steve "Dude" Rude, he says, simply, "Ninja.  Ninja, ninja,
ninja!"

-----

From this, I can only deduce that some strange, ninja-related argument is
spreading amongst famouse comix writer/artist teams.  I can only suspect
that within several months Gaimen and Colleen Doran will be thumb-wrestling
over the whole ninja controversy.  Probably all due to some insidious,
Michael Crichton-like Japanese plot to rule the comix industry.  Some
power-mad looney over at Viz, no doubt.

Well, I've said it before: what this country needs is real leadership.  Not
from me, though; I've got a PC to configure.

Those darn ninjas.

                           "OUT OF MY WAY!!  I have to appear on seven
                            different covers at the SAME TIME!!"

                                        Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun)
Subject: Re: Savoir Faire
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:36:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.001628.15976@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, mac7@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Chary) writes:
> 
> Who are the coolest characters in comics?  I mean the characters
> who when done right always seem to be in control or to have the
> upper hand?  You know, the one's that make you think, "I wonder
> what he has up his sleeve/"

Adam Weisshaupt, before he died and went to whatever passes for hell in
the Tarimist cosmology.

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From: grendel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Big Squeegee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman, Hector Hall and the DC universe (was: Re: Sandam
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:18:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The International House of Secretions

In article <1992Aug16.023407.17509@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@atto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
*Couple of problems:
*
*1) Is there anyone alive that knows that Morpheus was trapped by a spell
*   and knows what that spell was or how it was done? Is there anyone in 
*   any of the assorted DC super groups that would want to throw that
*   spell if they could find it? It seemed like a pretty EVIL thing.
*
*2) Morpheus cannot be tracked down like the usual super villain. So
*   JSA is pissed. Big deal. What are they going to do about it?  
*
*Considering the powers that Morpheus has shown, he certainly could make them
*forget the whole thing if he did encounter them. 

Let me add a couple of other things....

When Dream was first trapped, he was still using his ruby, which contained
a great deal of his power.  Since the ruby was taken away from him, he was
seriously handicapped during his imprisonment.  When John Dee destroyed the
ruby, the power was returned to Dream.  If he was trapped again, I think he
might have more of a fighting chance.

However, I doubt he would allow himself to be trapped again.  He's probably
learned to be a little more cautious and watch out to see it doesn't happen
again.  Mulling over something for 70 years would certainly set MY mind.

You're right; this thread IS silly.  No contest.


Mark "Putty brain" Lippert 
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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239)
Subject: Re: The Care and Feeding of Comics
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:10:21 GMT

In article <14110@auspex-gw.auspex.com> hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng) writes:
>In article <77858@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
>>
>>Who else has a complete run (or just a load of issues) of a particular title
>>that will never be worth a damn thing (at least from a monetary standpoint),
>>but that you've kept anyway?

I forgot about my issues of Strikforce Moroturi. Completely valueless,
but one of the better sci-fi series Marvel has ever put out. Especially
#1-19 by Peter Gillis. Really Great Stuff. Of course Marvel cancelled at
#31 and then followed to put out a lame cyberpunk follow-up to it.
Blaeah. Should have stuck with the original idea guys. Buy them if you
ever see them cheap somewhere. You'll be pleasently surprised.


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* Craig Welsh                  *    "I'm a few bricks short of a       *
*                              *     load, but a full load always      *
* cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca     *     hurt my back."                    *
*                              *     "Crazy" - Barenaked Ladies        *
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* "Homeboy from Hell." Screw that. I'm the Waiter from Hell.           *
*  You figure out which is scarier.                                    *
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From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: Re: Spinoffs of Mature Readers Titles in DC
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:47:17 GMT

cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:

>Death #1 : Comes with contact poison on the last page, making it incredibly
>valuable because no one knows the whole story and is alive to tell us about it.

	Wear rubber gloves to read the last page.

	Aren't we getting a death mini series this fall? Isn't it the
High cost of living or something like that.

James
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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  8823239)
Subject: Complete Runs (was Re: Care and Feeding...)
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:51:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.154529.8663@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>In article <77858@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
>>In article <13990@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:
>>Who else has a complete run (or just a load of issues) of a particular title
>>that will never be worth a damn thing (at least from a monetary standpoint),
>>but that you've kept anyway?
>
>Marvels _Godzilla_ is the "only" comic I have the complete run of: 12
>whole issues I believe!
>BTW, does anyone remember _Nth_Man? Strange series.

Actually Marvel's Godzilla lasted 24 issues and was the first comic I
ever collected. #4 was the first comic I bought when I was only 7 years
old. I love that series and wouldn'tdream of parting with it.

I also like Shogun Warriors, Battlestar Glactica, Micronauts and Nova.
Got complete runs of each, aren't worth a damn, in crap shape and i love
every one of them. Think I'll go read some of them now.

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* Craig Welsh                  *    "I'm a few bricks short of a       *
*                              *     load, but a full load always      *
* cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca     *     hurt my back."                    *
*                              *     "Crazy" - Barenaked Ladies        *
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* "Homeboy from Hell." Screw that. I'm the Waiter from Hell.           *
*  You figure out which is scarier.                                    *
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun)
Subject: Re: CEREBUS: M&D 10 (spoilers)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:19:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.182938.8897@athena.mit.edu>, dml@athena.mit.edu (David M LaMacchia) writes:
> 
> And the "death" of Julius...hmm.  Well, Dave's been known to do things
> like this before (although Weisshaupt's death was pretty dramatic).  I
> don't know what to make of it, so I think I'll await the next issue
> (i.e. the easy way out).

I don't think Julius is dead.  Call it a hunch.

> Cirin's dream was VERY interesting, but I'm not sure how much of a point
> it had besides showing us Cirin without her robes...except to show us that
> even Cirin isn't completely sure of her religion.

Exactly.

> I liked the fact that the trial from Church and State has now been explained.

Not to mention the business about the "Tarim" coins.  We now know why those
coins in the swamp have magical power to them.

> We now know that Cerebus as "Astoria" was Andrena (had this been revealed
> before?  I don't remember)

I don't think it has.

> Also, did anyone else catch that those two guys in the bar were (god, I
> can't remember their names) Drew Roach (ok, I can remember one of them)
> and the other sidekick of the Roach?

Dirty Fleagle McGrew and Dirty Drew McGrew.  They became Roach accolytes
in the later half of CHURCH & STATE, but their best appearances were in
HIGH SOCIETY.

> One last thing: does the Cirinist set fire to Posey's body or did it
> catch on fire by itself?

I thought it was obvious the Cirinist set it on fire.

> Furthermore, who is the prisoner who whispers
> "Posey! no! NO!"?  It could be Oscar...but I'm not sure.

Didn't Posey refer to him as "Oscar"?

> And how, btw, should Oscar ever have known Posey?  Coincidence?

Both were sentenced to two years hard labor.  They come from the same
geographical area (Iest), so it makes sense that both were sent to the
same prison camp.

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