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From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: GnR racist... NOT!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:16:43 GMT
 <gdrrZGe00WAyR6LF1A@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <gdrrZGe00WAyR6LF1A@andrew.cmu.edu>
ssac+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Alan Sisson) writes:

> O.K., so even if they're not _racist_...
> How do you justify their (what I see as) misogynist and homophobic lyrics?
> I am asking this as an honest question; I admittedly have actively
> listened to almost none of their music, but I do recall some song with
> words like "you're a fucking faggot... you're a fucking queen..."  What
> the hell was that about? And from what lyrics I have read I have seen a
> lot of songs treating women as inferior, and this is a problem common to
> much contemporary music.  (A la "Girl Don't Go Away Mad"... "Cherry
> Pie"... etc.) Once again, I fully admit that due to my ignorance of the
> band I can't supply more specific examples, but I would like someone who
> likes their music to address these issues. It is important to make sure
> the people you give your money to are people you think deserve it.

i dont' particularly care for most of g'n'r music, but i will say a few
things here. why do they need to justify lyrics that can be construed
as mysoginistic and homophobic? if there a complelling need for this??
that is similar to asking for an explanation about how 'deicide' can be
so openly satanic, or 's.o.d.' so rampantly anti-immigrant, or
'sepultura' so occupied with death. the same answer applies to any type
of band you want to talk about. they write about thinkgs they think
about or feel about at the time. regardless of how axl rose sings about
women or gays, it doesn't mean that those are his innermost and true
feelings. it means that he, or anyone else, thought it would be
interesting or fun to write a song about a particular topic. that
doesn't mean it's the only way that they feel about a subject or that's
the way they act in real life. people these days have a tendency to
place to much seriousness on the title or lyrics of a song. to tell you
the truth, i'd bet that every time these arguments come up, axl would
sit back and laugh. do you know why? in the same vein that sex sells,
controversy sells. if people talk about it more and more, it has a
tendency to sell more records, and in the end, that's exactly what
g'n'r and every other band out there is trying to do. the topics are
not important to every band. g'n'r is a band like that. they write
about things that will sell, not so much what they feel. writing about
sex and women appeals to a male audience and sells, and when you filter
in controversy, there you have one of the biggest record sellers in the
country today. the bottom line is that they write to sell records.

-kev.
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From: st1p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Suvir Ramesh Thadani)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: forced entry lyrics
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:39:18 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA




Does anyone have the lyrics to Forced Entry's ablum, "As Above, So
Below"?  If so, could you please post them.  Thanks.
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From: Daniel.Parmet@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Daniel Parmet)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Deliverance Information Wanted
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:33:15 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Can anyone tell me what label Deliverance's "Weapons for Our Warfare" is on?
I can't find it anywhere, but a local CD store owner said that he can order me
a copy if he knows what the record company is.

Thanks in advance,

   Dan (udparmet@mcs.drexel.edu)

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.music newsgroups
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:15:46 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Apr16.124624.11602@seas.gwu.edu> maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji) writes:
>
>eje47614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Sir Tanon Drister) writes:
>: 
>: what about alt.music.metal.progressive - to include bands like Fates Warning,
>: Queensryche, to name a few...they're at least as popular as metallica.
>
>Let's not get too excited about the restructuring of newsgroups.  There
>hasn't been too much "progressive" metal bashing on the newgroups, so

What????  Have you forgotten the QUEENSWRETCH argument about two months
ago?

>I do not think that would be necessary.  The only reason I see for creating
>NEW newsgroup is to put an end to the flame wars (example: 'Poison is
>metal cause I said so' 'to tab or not to tab').  With the creation of
>alt.music.rock.hard and alt.guitar.tab, everyone will have a place to
>post about what they like.  I'm sure Queensryche won't get flamed on
>alt.music.rock.hard.
>
I agree (somewhat) with what you wrote above.  I think that a hard group
will solve *many* problems now encountered.  The part I don't agree with
is changing everything to alt.music.*.  I know some people don't like the
idea of metal being related to rock and roll with the alt.r-n-r prefix, but
I think there's a _much_ better chance of getting alt.r-n-r.hard created
and living with a.r-n-r.metal, over changing all music groups to the
alt.music prefix and expecting for people to disband the old groups or
that sysadms will remove the groups.

Along with a.r-n-r.hard and alt.guitar.tabs, I'd like to hear discussion
on the idea of a.r-n-r.flame as well.  I have a more detailed article in
alt.config on this and the above statements, which is probably a better
format for discussion of new groups anyway.

						-Tom
-- 
Okay, one more time.  This is your brain. (egg)
This is your brain on drugs. (egg in frying pan)
Any Questions?
"Yeah, can I have mine scrambled?"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: bakoj@sage4e.its.rpi.edu (James J. Bako)
Subject: Re: Def Leppard
Keywords: Let's Get Rocked!!!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:24:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.171951.26296@acsu.buffalo.edu> v119qkv2@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (POE) writes:
>
>		Well, the new Def Leppard album has been out for 
>	almost 2 weeks now and I'd like to know what everyone thinks.
>	I'd like to offer my own opinion and say it has to be the 
>	best heavy metal album put out since Nirvana's Nevermind (BTW,
>	is there someone out there who could E-mail me the lyrics?).
    NO!
>		"Let's get, let's get, let's get rocked" - pure poetry.
    NOT!
>	The genius in these lyrics ranks up there with the likes of
>	Pink Floyd's "The Wall", Metallica's (the album w/ "One" on
                                                DUH!?!!  
>	it), and Warrant's "Cherry Pie".  Def Leppard will definitely
>	win every Amer. Music Award and Grammy Award in the pop, rock,
>	and heavy metal catagories, and prove once and for all, that
>	they are without a doubt the best band going today.  Only
>	Guns n' Roses comes close to matching their excellent musician-
>	ship and intelligent, well-written songs.
    NO WAY!
>		And for all those metalheads who think that groups
>	like Megadeath and Danzigg are better and think that the
>	true metal kings Def Leppard and Guns n' Roses don't belong
>	here, "Get in the Ring" and "Get Rocked"!!!
>
>		- ...and you could be mine.
>			Poe
>
>
>	- Shya, and monkeys might fly out of my butt!

   ARE YOU HIGH????



  
James
mail:bakoj@rpi.edu

                "And as you try to liberate the world
                 Remember what I say:
                 'Give and take's not how i live
                  I fucking take, you better give'"
                        -Exhorder "Soul Search Me"
From: cthulhu@raybans.cis.ufl.edu (Mark Kupper)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Fates Warning
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:52:00 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

In article <1992Apr13.212425.54449@cc.usu.edu> sl7w3@cc.usu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.172011.24303@midway.uchicago.edu>, h309@quads.uchicago.edu (Unknown Author) writes:
>     No.
>     If you want to get into Fates Warning, I would suggest 'No Exit' first,
>It's definately their best, but their old stuff is fucking killer...'Parallels
>really sucks (for Fates Warning)...they kind of pulled a MetalliBOB on it...
>they've pretty much abandoned their old music, I was not impressed with
>'Parallels' what so ever.
>
>'Too late to annul, so I plan her demise
> Creative Divorce - asphyxiate the bride'     Mike Fonnesbeck.

  'Awaken the Guardian' is their best by a long shot!! The singer in No Exit 
   gets on my nerves.
From: apolansk@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Alan M. Polansky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: HEAVY BASS??????????
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:44:37 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Apr2.225833.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsrla@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>YO!
>I'm a bass player and have noticed, among the music I've
>listend to so far, that there really isn't much heavy bass
>out there...that I've noticed.  I like the bass on the new
>OZZY cd, and I was wondering if anyone out there could 
>suggest something else.  I value all suggestions....\
>Thanks in advance!                                 ROG!

Motorhead has some intersting bass lines, and vocals too!

Seriously, check out come of the early Sabbath, Geezer does an
excellent job.


al.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 16:18:20 EDT
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron-Peace War

In article <1992Apr7.194944.19687@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
ewk@landshark.micro.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) says:
>
>I really couldn't give a fuck about either posting...  They have nothing to
>do with heavy metal!  Keep it in e-mail so the people here who don't want
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>to read this don't have to waste their time.
>
>Waitin' for the new Maiden...
>
>-Rick

Of course this thing has nothing to do with heavy metal or we would
post in alt.r-n-r.metal.heavy.  Get with it!   Besides I'll quit
wasting your time when posers quit wasting mine.

But til then vote for me, Suaron, the infinately wise!  Vote! Vote! Vote!
Hahahahahaha...Die Nimper Die!  Oh! btw whoever said I don't worship
satan is absolutely right, he's just one of my pawns.

--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
Suaron
From: karna@pobox.upenn.edu (Animesh Karna)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: "Bohemian Rhapsody"
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:52:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Since I haven't seen the much-discussed "alt.rock-n-roll.hard" in the list
of newsgroups available here yet, I guess this is the best place to post
this question . . .

WHAT THE BLAZES IS THE SONG "BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY" (by Queen) ABOUT?????

First, I'm interested in what exactly are the lyrics (does he really 
say "Mishmilla!  No we will not let him go!"?).  But, in addition, if
any of you out there have any discourses as to the reeeeal deep meanings,
I'd much appreciate hearing them!

Thanks!

-- 
Leonard Nimoy for President in 1992!
The only Logical candidate!  He'll make America Live Long
and Prosper!
---------- Animesh Karna wuz here! --------------
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: chhabra@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tall Cool One)
Subject: FUCK YOU Suaron!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:20:39 GMT

	Mr Suaron, Sauron, So Wrong, whatever.. Would you kindly oblige
from wasting bandwidth on this newsgroup. We all know you have nothing better
to do than bash others' musical tastes, those that are different from yours.
We all also know you are a sociopathic loser who can't get no pussy so you come
and hide behind your terminal reviving your ego by telling people where they
belong and what not to listen to. Give it up Suaron and GET A LIFE!!!!!
				-sincerely,
				    Ashim
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 21:08:54 EDT
From: Olias of Sunhillow <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Where is it from?

As discussed in the Ryche net-digest (Screaming in Digital---hey Shag!), It
(the Dr. Davis etc...) is from a sound-effects disc that is commonly availible
(so says Chris DeGarmo, I would love to find this disc!!!)

It is also used in the intro to "Dr. Feelgood", on the similarly titled Motley
Crue album (FLAME ME NOT FOR MENTIONING CRUE!!!)

Glad to have been of service...
Mike
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 21:58:30 EDT
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: SLAYER Lyrics!

In article <1397@sheoak.bcae.oz.au>, i900243@sheoak.ucnv.edu.au says:
>
>Hi Folks!
>        Is there anybody who could possibly post the lyrics to the
>SLAYER song "AGGRESSIVE PERFECTOR" off the Show No Mercy album?
>
>                                        THANKS.......Alex!!!!!

No aggressive perfector is not on the show no mercy album.  It
was written during that time period though.  The live version
of this song can be found on Live Undead and the studio version
is on the single to Seasons in the Abyss.  In the blood case
of the Seasons single there are no lyrics, I'm not sure of the
regular Seasons single though.  Anyways...

--slide with me to your netherworld, emotion exquisite in sweet demise
Suaron
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Subject: Re: "Bohemian Rhapsody"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:21:02 GMT

jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender) writes:


>In article <1992Apr15.235432.14573@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard) writes:
>>
>>  Bohemian Rhapsody is a typical over-the-top Queen song.  What I gather
>>  from the lyrics are that a guy killed a man, he's sorry, he's going
>>  to jail (or being executed), he doesn't want to, he rebels (heavy 
>>  part after the opera), then finally he has lost all hope (nothing really
>>  matters, anyone can see...).
>>
>>  My humble opinion, of course.  :)  

>	I think this is one song of a concept album. I don't know for sure, as
>I don't have the album, but if your supposed to hear it with other songs, it
>might make more sense

   HUH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!
   This IS NOT FROM A CONCEPT ALBUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   Queen II is Queen's only "concept" album, Bo Rhap is from A Night
   At The Opera.

    :)  

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Dan Blanchard    Royal Ambassador of the Queen Mail Service
  email:  dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  any Queen/Spinal Tap questions answered 
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 17:37:16 EDT
From: <TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Suaron for alt.r-n-r.metal PRESIDENT!

Its offical!  Its either me or Nimpfuck!  As President I vote to
do the following:

1) Continue my war on the posers
2) Flame anybody that pisses me off
3) Keep this newsgroup free of christians
4) Close my mind even further!
5) Help keep Satan's influence in this newsgroup!


Remember, If I lose not only do you have to put up with 7 mindless
christian articles a week, but Maple shall be replacement!  Alone
Maple is nothing, he needs his master to realize his full potential
no matter how low it might be!

Yes as president I couldn't give a fuck about poor people...Its
not an issue after all.  I couldn't give a fuck about the economy
cause it has no effect on metal.

Just remember this is a war of unholy and holy might!  I being the
demonically possesed candidate and Nimpfuck who will constantly
try to convince you of how evil metal is.  We already know that
right?

Oh! and if Nimpfuck should lose I suggest that he takes down the
email address of everyone that voted for him.  (Cause obviously
they stand the most chance of living up to his dreams) Then with
the address he send you Peace letters.  If he was truely a servant
of the lord he would do this to help his fellow man.  I however
will not bug you with satanic messages via email whether or not
I win!

Vote:
[ ] Suaron
[ ] Nimpfuck
Put and x in the box of the one you want to stay.

--the mocking religon of hatred that burns in the night
Suaron
From: vcf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Victoria C Fike)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: At War with Nimpfer (all read this)
Summary: blood-n-guts-n-gore
Keywords: suaron is the lesser of two evils
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:32:53 GMT
Reply-To: vcf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Victoria C Fike)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <44215@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> osickey@fegate.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew J. O'Sickey) writes:
>
>         Now, I'm not suggesting that anyone do this, but say one 
>    of you is an out of work headbanger that's freshly back from the
>    gulf war, and say still has some army ordinance lying around,
>    and say perhaps you were thinking about becoming a murderous 
>    serial killer, why don't you perhaps pick a theme, like oh say
>    just for example, the bible thumber killer....
>
>                                        azrael
>-- 
>"You should have listened to what Christ had to say"--Savatage
>
>any savatage lyrics are always appreciated at osickey@fegate.cc.purdue.edu

Well, a good friend of mine back home is owed a favor by a Hell's Angels
enforcer...will that do?  :-) :-) :-)

Tori

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Victoria C. Fike                |   "Brothers of metal know no master--
vcf1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu     |    Metal's our religion,
"Bible-thumpers?  We don't need |    Take it to the grave..."
 no stinkin' bible-thumpers!"   |       --Manowar, "Holy War"
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From: villj00@DMI.USherb.CA (JONATHAN VILLIARD)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Def Leppard (again)!
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:08:01 GMT
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke, Quebec


	Hello folks...


	I'd like to konw if the dead guitarist of Def Leppard was the
 leader of the band. Did he wrote a lot for them in the past albums?
 For the new album?

				Thanx a lot...


-- 
*******************************************************************************
*  Jonathan Villiard           *  Without death, life would be meaningless... *
*  Villj00@dmi.usher.ca        *                           - Dave Mustaine    *
*******************************************************************************
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From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden Ten Years CD's
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:02:49 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <92106.204807JDO103@psuvm.psu.edu> JDO103@psuvm.psu.edu (Dave) writes:
>Recently, I found some CD's from the Ten Years Collection.  Unfortunately,
>I can't afford them all right now.  I was wondering what people thought the
>best ones to get right away would be.  I can only afford 2 at the moment, since
>I don't have much left after rent/food/gas/beer/etc.
>
>-Dave

	I only have two right now, Wasted Years/Stranger in a Strange LandW
and Two Minutes to Midnight/Aces High.  Each CD has two singles, complete
with B-Sides and a discussion by Nicko McBrain that is either uproariously
funny or totally incoherent as he relates the stories behind the songs and
anecdotes from the tour.  Seeing as I only have 2 myself, I can't really say
much other than I whole-heartedly recommend them.  My only problem is that
inside each is a voucher that, when you have all ten, is redeemable for a
Derek Riggs (the traditional Maiden cover artist for all you heathens)
painted storage rack for the collection.  The offer, however, is only open
to residents of the UK.  If someone reading this is from the UK, perhaps
when can arrange to make a deal when I acquire all ten.  I am willing to
offer copies of the entire collection and more if necessary.
	BTW, I bought WY/SSL for $23 at Vintage Vinyl, but found 2MM/AH at
Barrack's Trading Post for $6 used, complete with voucher.  My only advice
is to look around before shelling out a fortune for them.

						UP THE IRONS,
							Raythrax
From: h309@quads.uchicago.edu (Tri-Ryche)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: test, ignore
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:38:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Apr7.183850.17873
Reply-To: h309@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Mindcrime

In article <apr-666-666-666@number.of.the.beast> darkdevil@lucifer.uw.evil.com (SomeOne) writes:
>this is a test of the emergency broadcast system

  Duhh...... Why don't you post tests somewhere else, this is getting kinda
redundant seeing all these 'tests' and all. Btw, thanks in advance.
From: jtguttadauro@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: U2 in Chicago
Date: 27 Mar 92 07:28:13 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

In article <1992Mar27.002315.11853@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd R. Eigenschink) writes:
> 
> Does anybody have a spare ticket or two for the U2 show in Chicago
> Tuesday the 31st?  I'm rather DESPERATE for one more...(I really hate
> to leave my roommate here!)...if you've got a spare or two, please let
> me know ASAP.  Thanks!
> 

 ...U2 ???!!!!  Metal??!!!!!!!  You can't be serious!!

 (hope you got your ticket though (:  )

Mosh it up!
Jeff
From: s142051@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Outing
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:32:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucdavis.12197
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <sdsVxyO00awQAEQEtg@andrew.cmu.edu> ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Scott Jefferson) writes:
>
>6) Soundgarden 
>	Opened for Skid Row and Guns N' Roses (burn these guys albunms their
>such obvious posers) 
^ Sounds like sarcasm, but you never know.......

You might want to listen to  their music. Their two A&M albums,_Louder Than
Love_ and _Badmotorfinger_, are easy to find and kick ass. 
LTL might be too slow for many on this group, but the tempos on BMF
are faster and ugly.  I like each album end to end, but highlights include

Louder than Love:
  Gun: Starts slow, and picks up heaviness and speed
  Big Dumb Sex: makes fun of the pop metal songs that are about fucking
     but never say that word. Chorus:
      "I know what I'm gonna do
       I'm gonna fuck fuck FUCK you!!"
  Get on the Snake, Loud Love and Hands All Over: cool riffs,
         cool singing cool lyrics

Badmotorfinger:
   Rusty Cage: Starts with a hot riff and changes gears half-way through
      to a powerful, heavy riff
   Slaves and Bulldozers: Chris Cornell screams his lungs out
   Jesus Christ Pose: hot, fast riff
   Drawing Flies: quick, hap'nin' song

Chris Cornell sings the thoughtful lyrics like he's in pain
Kim Thayil's guitar screams with sharp noise (no "look-at-my-technical-
   ability" syndrome  here)

I've seen Soundgarder headline at the I-Beam in San Francisco,
open for Danzig at the Warfield in San Francisco, and will see them
headline at the Warfield on Saturday.

So what do others think of Soundgarden?

John Wyatt
 
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