From: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: kahane's judaism
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:59:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.1777.22117@channel1> "wayne mcguire" <wayne.mcguire@channel1.com> writes:

# <knotes>
 
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# <des>
 
#      Meir Kahane refers to Arabs as "dogs," "a cancer," "fleas,"
#      and "leeches" who should be deported or murdered in the name
#      of Judaism. (Katzman Ha'aretz 11/16/90)
 
# <doctype>newspaper article
# <author>Katzman, Avi
# <title>A Post Mortem: Inspection of Writings and Speeches of an
# Individual in Whose Honor Knesset Stood to Attention.
# <newspaper>Ha'aretz (Supplement)
# <date>November 16, 1990
# <translated in>From the Hebrew Press, January 1991, v3 n1, p. 1-2
 
# <excerpts>
 
#      The Knesset, which had ousted him, honored his memory with a
#      minute of silence. Thirty Knesset members stood to attention
#      to honor an individual whose contempt for democracy was
#      unrivalled, who demanded protection by democratic
#      institutions in order to overthrow them, a man whose
#      teachings were qualified by the Supreme Court as echoing the
#      tenets of Nazism....

	He had contempt for democracy because it was used to shut him up.
As for the uUpreme court, they had to defend their ruling which
prohibuted the Rabbi from seeking elective office.

#      "In Judaism there is no tolerance; nothing that would
#      resemble the 'live and let live' principle." These were
#      Kahane's words which served as his premise for preaching the
#      murder of Jews and non-Jews alike.

	This is a lie.  The Rabbi never preached murder.

#      Eli Adir, who served for
#      a time as a director-general of "Kach," recounted to Hayim
#      Shibi of YEDIOT AHARONOT that "periods in which no Jew was
#      hit by [the] enemy were periods of his grave crises."

	Oh, but they were.  Do you  have any idea as to how Jews have
been treated throughout the ages or do you just support it?

#      Towards the Jews, Kahane had the same love-hate attitude as
#      towards the Italian prostitutes of New York. Without turning
#      prostitution into an ideology, he was obsessed by it. The
#      legislation drafts he kept submitting [to the Knesset]
#      concerning sex relations between Jewish women and the Arab
#      men, had plenty of pornographic appeal. Here is a quote from
#      many such bills: "A non-Jewish male who engages in sex
#      relations with a Jewish prostitute or with a Jewish male,
#      will be sentenced to 50 years of prison. A Jewish prostitute
#      or a Jewish male who engages in sex relations with a
#      non-Jewish male will be sentenced to 5 years of prison." A
#      Jewish male engaging in sex relations with a non-Jewish
#      prostitute or a Jewish male deserved, according to him, no
#      more than 2 years of prison. If any of the described acts
#      took place outside the borders of Israel, the same
#      punishments will be carried out..."  The sexual restrictions
#      he proposed were intended to protect the purity of the
#      nation, the purity of the sperm and the purity of the womb,
#      exactly as in the Nazi case. In his Knesset speeches he also
#      used to dwell on the same subject: "Of all the prostitution
#      in the whole world, 90% is Arab and only the remainder is
#      non-Arab." "The thousands of Jewish prostitutes who have sex
#      relations with Arabs are polluting themselves and all of
#      us."

	I doubt that this is all correct.  I would love to see the uthors
source for it all.  Now the Rabbi did make proposals dealing with
sexual relations which were nothing more than part of his  overall
attempt to make Israel law more reflect Jewish law.

#      In another speech he proposed that beginning with the
#      age of 17, all male Arabs serve 3 years of penal servitude,
#      during which they would be subjected to "a hormonal
#      treatment," intended to suppress their excessive sexual and
#      nationalistic drive, "until they come to kiss my shoes and
#      ask my mercy so that I will allow them to get out. And then
#      I will indeed show them mercy, and allow them to get out..."

	I would love to see the authors original source for this.

#      In 1981, the Supreme Court Judge Moshe Etzioni wrote in his
#      verdict: "In my opinion there can be no doubt that what the
#      "Kach" list proposes, is no more and no less than a
#      replication of the Nuremberg Laws, with the sole difference
#      being that where the word 'Aryan' appears, it is replaced by
#      'Jew', and where it was written 'Jew' it is here written
#      'Arab'. Did the Knesset stand to attention in commemoration
#      of those bills?

	What the judge did not admit is that the Rabbi was merely echoing
previous (and widely accepted Jewish leaders).  The only logical
conclusion, other than Etzioni being an idiot, was that those who
composed the Nuremburg laws were orthodox Jews.

#      "Shalom Jews, Shalom dogs," so used Kahane to open his
#      speeches. Here is a sequel of one his speeches: "Is it
#      racist to say that their very name should perish? They are a
#      cancer in our body: yet apart from myself, no one has the
#      courage to stand up and announce this much. They are
#      proliferating like fleas! They should be drowned in the sea!
#      They drink our blood, the leeches!"
 
	He was talking about Arab terrorists and other Arabs who were
working to demographically change Israel into an Arab state while at
the same time being freeloaders on the welfare system (and he was also
referring to some Jews).

#      The idea of the transfer of Arabs, wrote Kahane in one of
#      his books, "is not only my personal view, and it certainly
#      is not just a political issue. It is the position of
#      Judaism, grounded in Halacha and the Bible."

	This is correct.  So what is your point?

#      He repeatedly declared that he was ready, with his own
#      hands, to blow [up] the Temple Mount mosques and to erect
#      synagogues in their place. And that anyone who would do just
#      this, would "sanctify the Holy Name."

	Now I doubt everything here since this cannot possibly be correct.
While the mosques (or at least one of them ) violate Jewish law by
being where it is (sonce no one is allowed to be there - even Jews),
it would also be a violation to build a synagogue.  So while the Rabbi
could call for dismantling the mosque, he could not have possibly called
for the building of a synagogue.

#      The best rationale for
#      murdering him had been provided by Kahane himself. He used
#      to quote [the Talmudic dictum]: "Everyone who sheds the
#      blood of the wicked is like one who has offered a sacrifice
#      in the Temple."

	What does that have to do with murder, especially when the wicked
man is a murderer?

#      When the former mayor of Hebron, Fahed
#      Qawasme, was murdered [by other Palestinians in Jordan],
#      Kahane gave out a party for his followers. In his movement's
#      headquarters where the party was held, he said: "There are
#      many in Israel who say that 'the only good Arab is [a] dead
#      Arab'. I disagree. Even a dead Arab is no good. He remains a
#      piece of rubbish!"
 

	Please provide the original source.
# </o>
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