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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:48:32 -0500
From:         ANTHLAL@UMNACVX.BITNET
Subject:      where liese is; or, i once was lost, but now am found

hi there.  i'm over here, chris.  you all just didn't recognize me now that
i dyed my hair black.  so, anyway.  um.
well, it's so nice to see that the level of discourse is so elevated these
days.  i would point out that this has a direct correlation to the number
of rabid pro-lifers on the list, but i will refrain from doing so.  robert,
do you kiss your mother with that mouth?  do your daughters routinely bandy
about the word "bitch"?  my christian mother would about have my hide if
i did that in my own house, much less on a public forum for the reasoned
debate of political issues.  to me, the extent to which we should even
bother to discuss this issue is entirely on a constitutional-law level.  is
abortion legal?  yes.  should it be?  maybe yes, maybe no.  while it is
legal, should people have the right to agitate for the changing of this law?
yes.  while it is legal, should people have the right to prevent others from
acquiring this procedure?  no.  let's say it again:  this procedure, wrong
as it may be, is a legal procedure in this country.  until it is not a
legal procedure, please spare us all the histrionics and discuss this on a
level with adults.  if you spent half the time you spend abusing people and
their morals on this list on agitating for the repeal of roe v. wade, i think
you'd get your wish.

this whole business moves me once again to just shake my head at what this
forum is all about.  i read a poem...i'm going to post it, because i like it,
and i think it sums things up.  you all have a nice night:  i am tired,
and lonely, and cold and sad, and it's best that i sign off now, i think.

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what would tom paine do?  (song from star peace)

What would Tom Paine do
to spread a little Common Sense?
What would Tom Paine do---
      the problem's so immense,

that a shout pass mouth to mouth around the world

Protest and Survive
Protest and Survive

Protest and Survive
Protest and Survive

I want to be a pamphleteer
in the name of Tom Paine's Rights of Man
But what is the name of the pamphlet
in the age of laser disks
               and staellite time?
What is the name of the pamphlet
that shall soar aloft
and beam from mind to mind
              a million miles?

And the men of war
    need the fresh young minds
         in the labs of doom

We've got to interdict the flow
We've got to interdict
      the labs of doom
          labs of doom
          labs of doom

We vow to go wherever
the malinformed
are dragged aboard
     the ships of death
on a dirty sea

that a shout pass mouth to mouth around the world

Protest and Survive
Protest and Survive

Protest and Survive
Protest and Survive

There'll be times when the struggle shall falter
           in a whirl of ink and stupid strife

There'll be times when we're eaten by chaos
           and everything's a crazy maze
                   of razorblade roads

There'll be times when we'll have to let it go
                   and walk away to heal
           pull on the headphones
                       listen to Bach
                                 by the garden wall

You don't want to sew
a quilt of guilt
but a lace of grace
      lace of grace
      lace of grace

oh, the archetypal macho man
        with his nuclear spears
pushes his aggression in the high frontier
as if the milky way were just a swirl of knives

Oh, it's such an enormous equation
to dance while others moan in pain
But we're never going to find any answers
until we make that simple word

    It's such a simple word
    it comes in parts
    I'm talking about p...p...peace

Let it roll
     let it roll like a rumbling wheel
     for a thousand years
     p...p...p...peace

Let the feather of justice come
     float down and rest
       on the shining scales

       p...p...p...peace

What would Tom Paine do
to spread a little Common Sense?
What would Tom Paine do--
     the problem's so immense,

that a shout pass mouth to mouth around the world

Protest and Survive
Protest and Survive


Protest and Survive
Protest and Survive



                                    ---Ed Sanders, 1989
                                       from the opera "Star Peace"

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i am a pamphleteer, in the age of satellites and quicktime.
so are you.



anneliese.
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