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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:11:38 -0400
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From:         "Harry D. Liggett" <ac853@MEDINA.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      TMS bulletin boards
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

                    TAFEL MATCHING SYSTEM NODE LIST 3/14/92

                            ----------------------

   BBS name                            SysOp              Phone

   ----------------------------------- ------------------ ------------

   Root Cellar Too!!, Littleton, CO    Charles Simpkinson 303-798-6569

   Cornucopia TBBS, WinterPark, FL     Jim Howard         407-645-4929

   AMC Net, Chandler, AZ               Wendell Eyring     602-814-0123

   The Tech Net, Alamogordo, NM        G. Ament/J. Worman 505-434-3224

   GrassRoots, Cayce, SC (TMS support) Willie Bertholf    803-739-2641

   Roots(SF!) San Francisco, CA        Brian Mavrogeorge  415-584-0697

   COMMSOFT BBS, Windsor, CA           Diane Meilstrup    707-838-6373

   The Skeleton Closet BBS, VA Beach   Debbi McKay        804-671-8547

   The Gene Splicers BBS, Las Vegas NV John Le Duc        702-731-9453

   Ramblin' Roots, Miami FL            Barbara O'Keefe    305-221-1571

   Northwest Genealogy BBS Tualatin OR Gary Roth          503-692-0927

   The ASL Faction, Oregon City, OR    Wayne Silsbee      503-655-9586

   Options Unlimited, Athens, GA       Ben Bedell         404-543-5468

   River City Roots, Jacksonville, FL  John Boots         904-355-7511

   PasTracks Genealogy, La Porte, TX   Edward Hayden      713-470-8657

   Trace!, Houston, TX                 Susan King         713-862-6400

   CPAFUG, Columbia, MD                Barbara Bennett    301-290-9530

   Intercity BBS, Richmond, VA         Tyronne Foy        804-353-4160

   RamsGateWest, Fredericksburg, VA    Gary T. Moore      703-898-4821

   Relative Connection, Danville, IL   Chuck Haine        217-431-1695

   Optometry Online, St. Louis, MO     David Davidson     314-553-6068

   The Genealogy Workshop, Rock Is, IL Wm. Frederickson   309-788-9811

   So of the River BBS, Overland P, KS John Schnake       913-642-7907

   Jenny's Dog House, Lansing, MI      Tim Brown          517-374-1088

   Colonial Family Rsrch, Lansing, MI  Bill Korroch       517-882-0717

   Kintracers, Toronto, Ont, CANADA    Kenneth Gowie      416-924-1555

   City - Flags Genealogy, OakCreek WI John Robins-Wells  414-761-2582

   Mainframe Exchange, Dallas, TX      Doug Light         214-221-8931

   K-W Amateur Radio, Kitchener, Ont.  Fred Hicks         519-578-9314

   The Mountain Top BBS, Cincinnati OH Gerald Ellison     513-921-5568

   Genealogy Hotline!, Reynoldsburg OH Carol Montrose     614-855-0955

   The Idaho Root Cellar, Boise ID     Don Haacke         208-362-1441
















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Harry Liggett in Akron, OH. ac853@Medina.Freenet.edu.
Fidonet address: 1:157/100.13
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: dlp@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (dan.l.philen)
Subject: Associations - Henckel
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 11:48:44 GMT



According to the latest issue of The Genealogical Helper the address for the
Henckel newsletter is:  (This is the only Henckel listed in that issue)

  Henckel Genealogical Bulletin
  HQ USAE AFCENT
  CMR 460 Box 483
  APO AE 09703

Hope this helps.
Dan Philen  att!akgua!dlp
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:36:23 CDT
From:         corinne <CBECKER@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: GENEALOG: New File, wpfmtree

This is very interesting.  Does it cost anything to pick it up off of the
listserve?  If it were free, I'd be interested in seeing it.  Unfortunately,
I don't know how to retrieve anything.  CDB
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 10:44:02 CST
From:         James Smith <SMITH@ETSUADMN.BITNET>
Subject:      Retina

I can't resist.  I think he may have married a SEEMORE.
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:42:50 EDT
From:         DO Andrew Callahan <callahan@SUNBURN.EC.USF.EDU>
Subject:      RE:CEMETARY
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Just after I sent my last message about the file CRD301 that
came across ROOTS-L today as a uuencoded file with a subject
of Cemetary, I got another piece of e-mail that explained how
to use it.

The file that is created after uudecoding is CRD301 which is
a zipped file that must be PKUNZIPped.  This creates several
files including at least one README file and at least one
executable file.  I executed the file and it did run.  I have
not looked into it at all, and am not endorsing the product.
It appears to be written in something like dBase, FoxBase, Clipper,
or some similar thing.

It is designed to be used on DOS machines (IBM and IBM compatibles).
The program name is something like Cemetary Research Database, and
is distributed either as ShareWare or in a manner similar to ShareWare,
which means it is NOT free, but rather users are under the moral
obligation to pay the registration fee to the creator of the program.

Again, however, this is not an endorsement.  I have not used this
program and know nothing about it.

Andrew

-------------------------------------------------
HELP!  I'm trying to reach my ancestors!
DYER, CASKEY, BAYS, BOOHER, FUGETT (all KY)
CALLAHAN, REVANE, STANTON (all MA and Ireland)
If you know them, please contact me.

	Andrew Callahan
	callahan@sunburn.ec.usf.edu  (Internet)
	as087@cleveland.freenet.edu  (Internet)

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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:54:14 CDT
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      Transcribing OLD DEEDS
Comments: To: "Genealogy Information" <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Probably most of the people reading ROOTS-L and soc.roots either
have or have seen an old deed in script (handwritten) before the
year 1910.

When I visited Tennessee in September 1991, I located and copied
about 87 different old documents which had a reference to my Great-
GrandFather William Thomas MANES.  All these were in the OLD deed
records of the Sevier County, Tennessee, deed section (in the basement)
of the OLD Courthouse.

The main reason, I am saying all this, is to show that you do need
to look everywhere, or send a letter to the Deed section of the
City where your grandparents were living, and start back from that
point.

After the visit there and returning back here, I have spent many hours
in transcribing these old documents.  In all the documents, there are
very, very few words which cannot be read.  I have typed all the old
deeds, word or word, and that means no short cuts, and attempting to
type just what I saw on the paper.   It takes a lot of time, and I am
almost finished with the project....

But let me say, ....to those of you who are still reading.... that it
has been more than worthwhile.  You learn so many things about the
family by doing this.

  I have found and verified another direct MANES descendent, two of
  his sisters and their husbands names

  I have verified two of his brother's and their families......

Guess what else you can learn ! ! !

  Who lived close to your relatives

  Who they wanted to have witness thier deeds

  How much land they owned, and where it was located

I guess the moral of this message is, to never give up on finding more
information.  The people at the Deeds Section in Sevier Co, TN were more
than helpful, and I basically "camped-out" there for two days while
making the copies and asking them questions about how to get more
information.  Most of the copies I made were full page (about 14" X 17")
and cost $.40 cents each.  Money well spent, and now that I have about
95% of the documents transcribed.

Good luck with your research.

  cliff
--
Cliff Manis         K4ZTF        Manis/Manes Family History
Researching: MANIS MANES WHITEHORN CANTER BIRD FRANCIS NEWMAN
USMAIL:   P. O. Box 33937, San Antonio, Texas  78265-3937
BITNET:   cmanis%csoftec.csf.com@NDSUVM1  Caretaker of GENEALOG
INTERNET: cmanis@csoftec.csf.com
Standard Disclaimer:  We are not associated with anyone. (PERIOD). (.)
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:25:00 +0100
From:         Borja TORON ANTONS <toron@CCUCVX.UNICAN.ES>
Subject:      Re: RETINA a German name?

Jerry:

I'm not sure, but RETINA sounds very Spanish... I'm going to
look for this name (but after the holidays...) in a surname
book that is in my library...

There is also another German last name, KRUTTINA. I don't know in
english, but it seems to sound very similar..

Borja TORON ANTONS
Santander, SPAIN
(searching for TORON all over the world)
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:43:00 EST
From:         FAC_DBOYDRUS@JMUVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: SIMTEL120 Problem

Thank you for your suggestions.  Sure hope it works.
Dorothy
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:37:00 CDT
From:         NORMAN%MACALSTR.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Thompson/Wright
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

I haven't been able to get through to suej@microsoft.com.

My message is:

I have both Thompson and Wright great great great grandparents a generation apar
t in the same line.  We are originally from Montgomery County, Kentucky, and bef
ore that Fairfax County, Virginia.  Any possibility of a link?

Charles Montjoy Norman
400 Selby Avenue
#412
St. Paul, MN 55102

NORMAN@MACALSTR.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: saw@hallc1.cebaf.gov (Stephen A. Wood)
Subject: Re: cemetary
Reply-To: saw@hallc1.cebaf.gov (Stephen A. Wood)
Organization: CEBAF (Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:11:06 GMT

The program that was posted several days ago in uuencoded form was
the file crd301.zip.  It is available at the anonymous ftp site
hallc1.cebaf.gov
in the directory /genealogy.  The file should be transferred in binary
mode.  The file is an archive that has been compressed with pkzip.  The
program to un archive it is also in the /genealogy directory with the
name pkz110eu.exe.

More information about the anonymous ftp site hallc1.cebaf.gov is available
in a recent posting to this group.


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Stephen A. Wood				       CEBAF/SURA
Internet: saw@hallc1.cebaf.gov		    Mail Stop 12H
Internet: saw@cebaf.gov            12000 Jefferson Avenue
Bitnet:   saw@cebaf                Newport News, VA 23606

Phone: (804)249-7367		Office: CEBAF Center C121
FAX:   (804)249-7363
From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Re: US Navy Life Insurance
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:51:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44324
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <92098.143545JHLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> JHLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>>I tried to send this normally email and it bounced
>>so I am posting it. A FAQ for people going into service
>>might be a nice thing.
>I seem to recall a soc.veterans FAQ a while back, with info about services,
>vet news, etc... does anyone have a copy of this, or recall same?  Mr. Jewell?
>>I would check with the records bureau in St Louis Mo.
>Would you happen to have an address/phone number for this bureau?  It would
>be most appreciated.
>
I'm afraid I haven't kept it up to date, but if there's interest, I'll repost
the last version of the FAQ.  (I'm expanding my job into 10 countries, plus
I own WWII-L, so I had to shave some time somewhere.)
If anyone wants to adopt the FAQ, let me know.  If you want to see it reposted
put a note here, NOT to me personnally (my mailbox explodes routinely.)

The address for the Records Center in St. Louis is in the FAQ.  If you contact
them, be sure to have every piece of paper that ever had the Vets name on it.
I've been trying to get the declassified parts of my record out of there for
4 years.  One Congressman and two senators can't get them either, but you
probably won't have the complications I had, you just have to prove you have
a reason for wanting them.  START with the Veterans Service Officer in your
county.  He's been  through this before and knows the ropes. (Hopefully.)

Larry J
-- 
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#"Sunday's horoscope is noteworthy because of its strange, sudden and wholly#
#unpredictable and inexplicable occurrences, affecting all phases of life." #
#--"Your Horoscope," L.A. Evening Herald Express, Saturday, Dec. 6, 1941.   #
From: Nigel.Allen@f438.n250.z1.fidonet.org (Nigel Allen)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: homeless veterans
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:29:22 GMT


I thought you might want to see this press release.

 Homeless Veterans Services to be Focus of Pittsburgh Hearing
 To: City and Assignment desks
 Contact: Jim Holley, Gloria Royce or Pete Dougherty, all of the
          House Veterans Affairs Committee, 202-225-3527

   News Advisory:

   Two of the House of Representatives' most outspoken veterans
advocates have set a Saturday, April 11, Congressional hearing in
Pittsburgh to examine the adequacy of health care and housing
programs for veterans in West Virginia and western Pennsylvania.
   The lawmakers plan to focus on homelessness among veterans which,
in the words of one, "has reached a critical stage."  According to
most estimates, veterans account for at least one-third of the
450,000-750,000 homeless on America's streets and in shelters.  In
Allegheny County, Pa., there are between 1,400 and 1,700 homeless
persons at any given moment.
   Rep. Harley Staggers (D-W.Va.) and Rep. Lane Evans (D-Ill.), both
of whom chair House subcommittees which deal with veterans' issues,
have scheduled the hearing at 8:30 a.m. in the auditorium of the
Pittsburgh VA Medical Center on Highland Drive.  VA officials, local
veterans leaders and representatives of area homeless assistance
efforts have been invited to present testimony and respond to
questions.
   "Homelessness now affects every region and every type of community
-- downtowns, suburbs and rural areas.  It has many faces: families
with children, newly unemployed, victims of family break-up and
working poor, as well as those individuals suffering from chronic
mental illness and substance abuse," said Staggers, chairman of the
Veterans' Affairs Subcommittee on Housing and Memorial Affairs.  "We
want to explore what is being undertaken and what is needed to assist
these groups, from initial outreach, to shelter and rehabilitation
programs and followup initiatives.  It is a problem that will not go
away without substantial action by the federal government."
 -30-
 /distributed by U.S. Newswire  202-347-2770/
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Newsgroups: soc.veterans,sci.aeronautics
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: US Navy Life Insurance
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 13:56:52 GMT

I tried to send this normally email and it bounced
so I am posting it. A FAQ for people going into service
might be a nice thing.
I would check with the records bureau in St Louis Mo.
Thats where all the old stuff is kept, dont be too
dissapointed though, they had a big fire there a few
years ago and lost alot of records. When you get discharged
thats where yours will go. 
A word of advice from an coronado graduate who went
bubblehead, Get some legal size envelopes to keep with
you, every piece of paper work that has your name on it
that you didn't get a copy of, xerox it and send it home,
do this on a monthly basis (the big brown envelopes).
During your yearly records review try to get a copy of
everything that was put in your jacket, they normally
let you copy it for your own records, and they will also
clean it out once a year and give you a stack of paper work
from it, DONT THROW IT OUT, send it home, mark it as records
so you know what it is, BUT DONT THROW IT OUT. You will not
believe how handy it will be in the future.This is ESPECIALLY
TRUE If you get hurt, wounded or otherwise incapcitated.
DONT THROW ANYTHING OUT,KEEP IT ALL AND SEND IT HOME !!!
If you ever have to deal with THE VA in the future you will
realize what I mean. And dont ever give them up to the VA,
allow them to copy, but not keep yours.
EX: If your grandfather kept his records you would not be
asking the above question !!.
IF you run into a bubblehead (Dolphins on chest) ask him what
type & brand of baffle cleaner they use nowadays.

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#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I DONT CARE IF I SOUND CONFUSED, I KNOW WHAT I MEAN !!!
From: rah@rampart.enet.dec.com (Robert Holt)
Subject: Re: release 10 us pows
Reply-To: rah@rampart.enet.dec.com (Robert Holt)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 21:01:57 GMT


>>There are no live American POWs in SEA.  
>>**************  BULLSHIT  *****************************

>Dave
>USNR 1959-1961
>USAF 1961-1965

Oh? 

You have proof then?

C'mom, lets see it..
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From: masman@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CMS Coordinator)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Special Forces
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I was wondering if anyone could give me information on the following groups:


U.S. 	Army Rangers
	Marine Force Recon
	AF Air Rescue Corp.
	Navy Seals

As well as other Government Commando groups such as The Delta Force, German
GSG9, British SAS, etc.

Please reply via e-mail to (MASMAN@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU)

Thank you in advance....
					MASMAN
From: JHLQC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: US Navy Life Insurance
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:17:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: CUNYVM.92097.201731JHLQC
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I hope someone might be able to help me out with some information, here...
my mother just provided me with a copy of my grandfather's honorable
discharge papers (he served in the US Navy from 2/14/43 - 12/25/45), and
asked me if I could find anything out about life insurance proceeds (he
passed away 12/1/88 of natural causes).  His sisters are sure that he had
continued life insurance coverage for veterans upon his discharge, and
my mother, as a result, is wondering if we might be entitled.  His spouse
passed away three months before he did, and any other paperwork which might
have shown whether any benefits are due us is MIA.
    Would anyone out there know whom to contact about this sort of thing, or
would be able to find out our eligibilty if I provided them with further
information?  As I'm shipping out into the Navy on April 14th, a rapid
reply would be *most* appreciated... after that, I will no longer have access
to this account (obviously :-) ), and might be able to find out something on
my own.  Thank you so much in advance.
                                                      Cordially,
                                             Seaman Recruit Joseph Halloran
                                                    JHLQC @ CUNYVM
                                                 jhlqc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
From: Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: John Kovalcik, Ohio State University, Wins Affirmative Action Award
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:03:30 GMT

John Kovalcik, a Storekeeper I with the department of Residence and 
Dining Halls at The Ohio State University, has been awarded a Distinguished
Affirmative Action Award by the university for his work with Vietnam 
Veterans.

John has conducted university-wide educational programs about Vietnam
Veterans for the past five years and has been instrumental in gaining
the rightful affirmative action status for Vietnam-Era Veterans as
mandated by the Veterans Readjustment and Training Act of 1974.

Congratulations are in order for John, a Coast Guard Vietnam Era 
Veteran.

Arnie Skurow
From: efranqui@girtab.usc.edu (Eduardo Franqui)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Veterans today
Date: 8 Apr 1992 11:53:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

I'm doing a research project for an Administration class of mine.  The subject
is on Veterans, their condition today, what the federal, state, and local 
government are doing along with just individuals.  I need to know what are the
major problems facing today's veterans and the steps being taken, or not taken,
to help curb the problems.  I need facts as well as opinions from anybody.
Insights from veterans would be most useful.  How do you feel about the way
this country has reacted to military veterans needs.  Your emotions as well as
insight are most valuable to me.  I think everyone knows what I need, so I will
leave it at this.  I need the information as quickly as possible, as convinient
for you as well.  Please e-mail me directly unless you really feel like posting
it.  Thankyou in advance to allof you,

		Eddy Franqui
		<efranqui@girtab.usc.edu>
From: dwaddell@pyrman2.pyramid.com (David Waddell)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: VMFA-531 Color's Retired
Keywords: Sadness,Pride,Semper Fi!
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:39:12 GMT

I just received an article from my brother in southern California that
said "VMFA-531 Grey Ghosts colors retired". I was blown away. 531 was the
first squadron I ever served with. I was at MAG-11 headquarters when they
received their first F/A-18's. I served with the Grey Ghosts from 1980-81.
I would like to hear from anyone who has served with them. Also, can any-
one tell me how to contact the "Marine Corps Aviation Assoc." 

David A. Waddell
Bus. (408) 428-8782
Home (408) 946-7141

Address:
415 Lynn Ave.
Milpitas Ca. 95035-4712
From: ron@gatecom.UUCP (Ron Klegman)
Newsgroups: soc.veterans
Subject: Why do they do it!!!!
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:32:48 EDT
Organization: Gateway Communication Inc.

   That seems soo typical..Jack Wallace writes of all things having to be
square...it just reminds me of how all words no matter how slight or 
breif they may be...can be totally ambiguous in meaning. I couldn't
help but laugh.
                    Ron Klegman
                    U.S.S. Nimitz CVN-68
                    1983-87       -Rm3-