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From: jdeitch@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:56:31 EDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

rdominy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert Dominy) writes:

> Are you sure Star Trek NG is surround sound encoded?  I've never seen any
> evidence of it.

I believe it has been since the third season.

- Jonathan
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Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: 20,000 LEAGUES Letterboxed was Re: What's the deal with TRON on LD?
Followup-To: rec.video.releases
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:14:06 GMT

In <1992Apr10.044441.14410@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>>The disc is catalog #SF058-1710 and they are
>>selling it for $89.95.
>
>I checked my Japanese laserdisc catalog tonight and this catalog number
>IS NOT letterboxed. 

I also have another Japanese import LD of 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA,
SF098-0032, and it is also not letterboxed.  (I bought it on impulse and on
hope -- oh, well.)

For those who hadn't heard: Laser Disc Newsletter mentioned that Disney had
told them that a letterboxed LD version of 20,000 LEAGUES was "in the
works."

                           "I think it's really the
                            human part of him that's
                            failing."
                                                     "Well, the human side
                                                      likes the rich taste,
                                                      but the robot in him
                                                      loves the frosty
                                                      goodness."
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Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
From: kenh@world.std.com (Ken Hancock)
Subject: Re: Re: Fantasia 50 days?
Organization: Isle Systems - Waltham, MA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:58:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.143101.29805@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>I think Disney's policy is pretty despicable because of the calculated
>money gouging.  It does however have one thing in its favor.  In the
>past many laserdisc titles have been allowed to run out of stock but
>still been kept in the catalog.  It is more useful to the consumer to
>know up front that a title has a limited production run and that's that.

Their new policy seems even worse.  Is 101 Dalmations going to be available
on disc?  I've seen absolutely nothing on it, but it's supposed to be
available today on VHS.  Then there's Lady and the Tramp...I'd kill
for a copy.

Ken


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Subject: Re: NEW PIONEER BLASPHEMY!
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:04:37 GMT

While reading article <92097.201511U15310@uicvm.uic.edu>, I noticed that
Tom Ascher <U15310@uicvm.uic.edu> said the following:
 >Well folks rampant commercialism strikes again.  I just viewed my
 >latest purchase of a Pioneer offering, a Verdi Opera (Macbeth) on
 >3 sides, and guess what begins EVERY side?  You guessed it, about
 >20 seconds of the PIONEER LOGO!!  No more worries about seamless
 >viewing when you change sides.  No more cares about such trivial
 >distractions as 'SIDE B'.  Nope.  Just a promo from Pioneer, complete
 >with picture and sound cutting into the middle of the presentation
 >every time you change a side!  Has anyone noticed this on any other
 >presentations?  Like ordinary movies, etc., etc.?  If so, might be
 >worthy of a letter or two of comlaint to Pioneer.  Anyone have
 >a person or address to direct such a letter to, where it might
 >get some notice?  Thanks.

Is this a NEW disc?  Remember that Pioneer used to do this all the time, along
with the LaserVision "swoop" at the beginning of movies.  It's only in the last
year or two that they have STOPPED putting the intros at the end of each side.
Check the copyright date and get back to us...
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From: liu@baervan.nmt.edu (Li-Te Liu)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Need phone number for "New West Electronic".
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:10:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Petroleum Recovery Research Center, NMIMT

Hi, Does anyone in group know the phone number of mail order company
 "New West Electronics".I am appreciate for all your response.
Frank
liu@baervan.nmt.edu
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony TR-81 may not be the best choice.  Other options.
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:41:49 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Apr15.153014.23724@watson.ibm.com>, pradeep@watson.ibm.com (Pradeep Dubey) writes:
> Secondly, I feel Hi-8 is not very important to me.  I think you need
> a TV that can take the special video-connector to be able to see
> the difference in picture quality.  So I am settling for plain 8mm.
> Also, if you are willing to settle for 6x zoom camera and buy a 
> telephoto (1.5x) lens, you can get 9x zoom at a much cheaper price.

I will stay away from the religous debate about picture quality.  However you 
will see a difference (without question) in 2nd generation tapes from edits.  
And 3rd generation is possible with Hi8mm/SVHS.  IMHO 3rd generation is not 
worth it with 8mm/VHS.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: stantbat@iastate.edu (John S Sinnott)
Subject: Re: LD & S-VHS recommendations.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:53:33 GMT

In <11381@weiwei> gank@Software.Mitel.COM (Kok-Ti Gan) writes:

>Also, I have been looking at the JVC HR-S6700U VCR. Any comments on these
>and are there any other players I should look at with comparable features
>and price?

I had a very bad experiance with JVC a few years ago, and will never buy any 
of their products again.  (Details upon request.)  I just bought a SONY SLV-R
and I love it.  I'd highly recommend it.

>I am planning to mail order these and have been considering to get them from
>either CWO or New West Elec. Are these reputable mail order dealers and
>which one should I order from. They have quoted me prices on the above
>equipment and I am wondering if the prices that they quoted are negotiable?
>Any netters ever negotiated the prices before with mail order companies
>and had a better price from them?

I bought my R5 and a Sony v801 camcorder from CWO.  THeir service was great,
and I got my stuff a day before they said it would arriaive.
I did have a lower offer, and I told the salesman (John was his name), and he
looked up the weights of the items I had ordered and was able to knock a little
of the shipping, but that's all.  I still went with them because I had heard
good things about them.  I'd rather spend an extra $10 and be sure the stuff
is going to be delivered (and have a US warrenty.)

Good luck on buying a S-VHS and LD.

-JOhn Sinnott




Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tomcat@leland.Stanford.EDU (tom spearman)
Subject: VHS VCR FOR SALE CHEAP
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 06:26:50 GMT

I have a 5-year-old Hitachi VHS VCR for sale.  It has HQ technology and
a 10-key remote.  I had $100 worth of work done on it last year to fix
it.  Supposedly, it's as good as new.  I bought a Sony SLV-686 so I
don't need the Hitachi anymore.  It (the Hitachi) runs perfectly.
$115 obo.

tom
tomcat@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: 20,000 LEAGUES Letterboxed was Re: What's the deal with TRON on LD?
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 18:09:26 GMT

In article <2310053@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> jayj@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jay Johannes) writes:
>    In article <34571@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free) writes:
>    >(It was said that a letterboxed edition of 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA
>    >was released at about the same time, but S&S couldn't get any copies, and
>    >I know of no one who actually has a copy, so as far as I know, it was
>    >only a rumor.)
>
>Laserland in Denver has a half dozen copies in stock (and for sale).

I called Laserland and they are uncertain as to whether it is LETTERBOXED.
That is the key issue.  The Letterboxed edition was released by BANDAI
Video in Japan (along with several other Disney titles).  About 2 years
ago Disney pulled all those titles from distribution.  They may have
now reissued a Pan & Scan version (don't ask me why but that is what it
was rumored they were going to do).  The one that Laserland has does not
say "BANDAI" anywhere on it.  The clerks there do not know the Japanese
Kanji for "Cinemascope."  The disc is catalog #SF058-1710 and they are
selling it for $89.95.

If there is anyone reading this who is in the Denver area and can visit
Laserland for a first hand check that would be really wonderful.

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From: rchrist@uswnvg.UUCP (Ron Christian)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Can you upgrade surround to Pro-Logic ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:00:58 GMT
Organization: US West NewVector, Bellevue, WA

If you really think you need pro-logic, sell the JVC and buy a pro-logic
surround processor, or a receiver with pro-logic.  It's really not worth
fooling with, unless you are attacking it from a hobbyist standpoint.
(That is, more interested in the process than the results.)

It was hard for me to replace all that lovely stereo equipment I had
purchased in the mid '70's, but time marches on.  Move the old stuff
into the den, master bedroom, or give it to the kids.  Or sell it.


				Ron
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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: camcorder recommendations
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:21:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <3030@cvbnetPrime.COM>, root@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet) writes:
> If you're going to consider the Canon, I strongly suggest you solicit opinions
> here first. I don't think you'll be happy with the focusing mechanism at all.

I would go a step further - before you buy _any_ camcorder I would strongly
suggest you try the autofocus system.  My favorite test is to shoot 2-3 people
standing indoors in a group moving around just a little in place.  This is a
normal family shot.  The old Sony TR-5/V99 type system would keeping hunting 
with the autofocus.  My TR81 does not.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:46:14 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Apr4.040218.10789@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
<The Surround message was probably part of the source program.  The Simpsons,
<for example, is produced with a message that says something like "Dolby
<SurrounD where available.  Did your TV detect MTS on the program at all?
<Many bogon cable companies supply crappy MTS if they supply it at all.  The
<local one, TCI Cablevision, requires the use of their RF box, whose sole
<output is RF.  No MTS is delivered.  Because of this, they don't get my
<money, and I use a roof-mounted antenna.  Alas, the local station that
<broadcasts The Simpsons (for example) doesn't broadcast MTS under any
<circumstances anyway.  The local public station, though, broadcasts very
<stereo stuff often, and can even be found to broadcast all of some movies
<rather than just the middle.

Have you tried the TCI box with your stuff?  Just because a converter box is
RF won't make it not pass MTS, actually the reverse works here.  Most RF
converter boxes drop the channel down to an IF frequency, so that decoder
stuff can be done if necessary.  Then it is converted again to the desired
final frequency.  When IF is used, the complete TV channel is passed through,
MTS and all.

BUT, if internal baseband stuff is done, then all bets are off.  The MTS
stereo audio will be lost in this case.

The local TCI uses RF boxes for those customers that have certain pay channels
and I have heard of no customer that has lost MTS on those channels that are
MTS stereo.  The local boxes are of the IF type.
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From: jpchou@camelot.Eng.Sun.COM (Jeff Chou)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: CD rot
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:49:40 GMT
Reply-To: jpchou@camelot.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: camelot

Does anyone know if CD rot also applies to laserdisks?
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony vcrs with Control-L (LANC)
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:07:49 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <19920413151035.0.VU@VN.SCH.Symbolics.COM>, VU@GODZILLA.SCH.SYMBOLICS.COM (Vu Ngo) writes:
> Q: Does the old model SLV-575 have control-L??? The new model SLV-686???
> Q: I think the new Sony S-VHS SLV-R5 has it, but too much $$$$.  What is
> the best price I can get for this one???.

To my knowledge _all_ current Sony non-portable consumer VCRs have 5-pin 
Control-L jacks.  Video Review reports only 3 of the 5 pins on the 5 pin jacks 
carry signals.  This explains why the 3 pin jacks work on the cameras.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer)
Subject: Re: Re: Fantasia "Limited Availability"
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:26:48 GMT

> HDTV allows new and wonderful ways to screw up the picture information
> in the home.  I'm willing to be a paycheck that the tendancy will
> be to offer academy ratio films with the top and bottom cropped so
> that it will "fill the screen".  Then there will be the people who feel
> that vertical scanning is much better than having to live with black
> bands on the sides.

Yup, just the way they screw them up now in cinemas.  I hate watching
re-releases of "Bambi", "Snow White", etc. clipped on the top and bottom.
At least Disney presented "Fantasia" properly for it's 50th Anniversary
re-release.  And then there are the projectionists in Rep Cinemas who
frame everything as 1.85:1.  I *HATE* watching Fred Astaire dancing on
his ankles.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kazel@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (mitchell kazel)
Subject: Re: Consumer Electronics Shows info needed
Organization: School of Chemical Sciences, Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:20:04 GMT

1992 International Summer Consumer Electronics Show
McCormick Place
Chicago, Illinois  USA

Trade Only Days:

Thursday, May 28, 10 AM - 6 PM
Friday, May 29, 9 AM - 6 PM
Saturday, May 30, 9 AM - Noon

Trade/Consumer Days:

Saturday, May 30, Noon - 9 PM
Sunday, May 31, 9 AM - 6 PM

For more information:

Consumer Electronic Shows
Electronic Industries Association
2001 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC   20006-1813  USA
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From: raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Raible - LSI Design)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Laser Disc Clubs?
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:40:22 GMT
Reply-To: raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Raible - LSI Design)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <7970832@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
>In rec.video, santos@athena.mit.edu (Carlos F Delossantos) writes:
>
>> I recently purchased an LD player, and I am anxious to start building a
>> collection of LD's.  Can someone please recommend some good discount LD
>> clubs.  The only one I have seen in this newsgroup was a mention to
>> Columbia House.  Are there any others?
>
>FAQ archive article LD#14 lists various mail order sources, including two
>clubs, once of which is CHLDC.  One of my correspondents contributed an
>update to the LD#14 data today, along with new CHLDC caveats...
>____________________________________________________________________________
>>     (800) 538-2233
>Also, (800) 457-0866
>
>>     very attractive sign-up offer (3 titles for $2.50 each), but you commit
>>     to buying two (may now be four) more at "regular" (normal list >= $30)
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                     definitely 4, now, though one of the four may be had for
>                     $15 if you order at sign up (leaving a 3x$30 obligation)
>
 The deal varies from ad to ad. The "two more" deal certainly still
exists, I believe its the deal offered in the new VIDEO issue. The "four
more" deal also exists and I am at a loss to understand the logic of
this.


BTW I also had a conversation with CHLDC wrt sets and was also told that
sets were any disk that cost over $79.95. Go figure!
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: SONY TR 91 Camcorder  ?close
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:12:33 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1340060@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM>, chan@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Chan Benson) writes:
> The Ricoh R88-H has different optics than the Sony TR-81.
> 
> 			-- Chan

Camera stores like to claim this but Video Review claims the glass is the same. 
I wish there was some way to confirm or deny the optics issue.  The other point 
VR made was better glass probally won't lead to a better image.  At 400 lines 
most glass probally far exceeds the need.
From: smp@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Shailesh M. Potnis)
Newsgroups: rec.video,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Camcorder Question
Keywords: rec.video soc.culture.indian
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:51:02 GMT
Followup-To: poster


	I would like to know what the state of art is in terms of multi
standard camcorders (especially PAHL and NTSC).  Can I record and play back
in any format or I can only play back on NTSC TV the video recorded in the NTSC
format and visa versa?

	All comments and suggestions are highly appreciated.

	Thanks in advance

	Shailesh
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From: TACVSFB@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU (Susan Brower)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VIDEOTECH Digest V92 #181
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:34:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Re: laser disc white lines problem:

This sounds like a problem in the original transfer from tape (or film)
to the master disc.  It could be a wrinkle on the original tape, or
a dust particle that crept in on one of the heads
and created a glitch.  In either
case, there's no fixing it without re-doing the original transfer.  The
problem lies in quality control at the factories.

Just a conjecture,
Susan
From: chen@digital.sps.mot.com (Jinfu Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: FROX??
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:31:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Motorola, LICD, SPS, Mesa, AZ

In article <1992Apr1.154231.7063@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle) writes:
>In article <1992Mar31.164730.2943@wam.umd.edu>, dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
>> In article <CHRISC.92Mar31090321@kether.webo.dg.com>, chrisc@kether.webo.dg.com (Chris Campbell) writes:
>> > Anyone have any info on a product called FROX?  They've been advertising
>> > (read: hyping) it in Premiere magazine.
>> 
>> I can't recall the figure, but I think I saw a price for some of that stuff
>> a while back and it was ****REAL**** expensive. It's supposed to be some sort
>> of central control system for audio/video entertainment centers (or something
>> like that).
>
>What I like about it was that there was an on screen mening system that 
>allowed a viewer to look up tv listings and "click" on them and automatically
>program your vcr to record that show at the correct time. I know that this
>is very basic in the explanation, but it will suffice.

The FROX system offers much more than the user-friendly interface. 
Unfortunately their ads seem to concentrate in this area.  I went to a demo
recently and was really impressed with the product (something that expensive
has to be impressive :-).

The main theme of the product to *me* is the use of DSP and SPARC chips to
process everything.  I believe upto six DSP chips can be put in the box and
probably two SPARC chips are used along with some large amount of DRAMs and
two special (low noise) 200MB hard disks.  With so much computing power (over
200 MIPS) the unit offers line doubling and the display is quite superb. 
I watched T2 and Back to the Future from LD for half hour and didn't realize
the lack of scan lines for a while.

Other "impressive" features of the system include the way the system to be
upgraded via software.  For example, a THX compatible system can be obtained
via loading a VHS tape ($800 option though!) without chaning hardware.  In
fact the whole system can't be used without loading an "operating system" via
a VHS tape to the hard disk.

FROX is also teaming up with TBS (sp? a superstation in Atlanta) to broadcast
lots of information via vertical blank, such information include local
program listing a couple times a day that can be used for programing
mentioned in previous message, and their CD library listing for the 100 CD
changer.

The only drawback, you can't afford it.  A story in Forbes mentioned one of
the founder of the company left a couple years ago because he didn't believe
they could produce an affortable system for the mass (under $5,000).  If
someone hits a jackpot and willing to burn some easy money, I guess this is
the ultimate system for them.  In reality, I heard lots sports bar owners are
buying FROX system for business use.