HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Subject: Re: Postscript to draw the USA posted to alt.sources
Originator: clewis@bcarh1d7
Organization: Nevermore.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:24:33 GMT

In article <4365@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <3925@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:
><This goes as well for a suggestion that you made earlier "they
><should just make 'em all rec groups".  A truly sill idea.
><What do you think that the response will be to that?  UW stops
><carrying rec...

>I said that?  Obviously sources groups don't belong as rec groups.

Yeah, you said that last go-round.

>But, why not make alt groups that are rec in nature, rec groups?

Of course, why not.  Just needs a vote ;-)  Which is as it should be.
It does happen.

>Maybe my histor of the alt groups has a few holes in it.  I understand that the
>alt groups
>came about because net readers couldn't get certain groups created, so a
>bunch of them got together and started alt groups as a way around the problem.

Yes, that was one of the reasons - certain groups were thought to be so
far outside of legality, or taste, that admins would refuse to create
them vote or not.  The other reason is that there are a
substantial amount of people who believe that there shouldn't be any
kind of control, and are politically opposed to *any* procedure no matter
how easy, or how permissive it is.

>Many sites decided not to carry these "groups".  This kind-of made them the
>black sheep of the family.  The black sheep title has still hung around to
>this day.  This makes it tough to get the alt groups everywhere.

You wouldn't *want* the vast majority.

>How about my suggestion to have a PostScript sources group?  Oh, I can hear
>the screams and moans now...not another newsgroup.  But what could be more
>natural than to have a PostScript sources group within the PostScript
>newsgroups.

It's not that bad idea - that's what comp.sources.* is for.  However,
the current convention is that there's no language differentiation in
the groups, only O/S (or "refereed review", versus "review", versus "packaging
standards only").  However, since PostScript is, in one sense, a different environment
altogether from UNIX, a comp.sources.postscript might fly - especially if
moderated.  I suspect, tho, the arguments would be about PostScript being a
graphics format (and hence should be under alt.binaries), or there being
insufficient demand (for PS programs versus, say, pornos) that it would
be a long slog.

I dunno.  What do other people think?  If we decide that one's appropriate
and that it has a reasonable chance at flying, I'm amenible to running
the vote.

>BTW.  Did you ever receive my e-mail about enhancments to the psxlate man
>page?  I never heard back from you.

Yes.  But I'm going to implement something different to solve the problem.
This isn't a documentation problem.  I did send something to you.  Musta
gotten lost somehow.
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: dberry@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Berry)
Subject: Turkey in PS??
Reply-To: dberry@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Berry)
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Pittsburgh, PA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:27:12 GMT

With thanksgiving fast approaching in the US, I am looking for a PostScript
program that draws a picture of a whole turkey, especially one that is not
a masked bit map and is therefore scaleable.

Does any one have such an animal?

Thanks
Dan
Prof. Daniel M. Berry, Computer Science Department, Technion, Haifa 32000 ISRAEL
+972-4-294325, DBERRY@TECHSEL.bitnet dberry@cs.technion.ac.il
Dr. Daniel M. Berry, Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon Institute
Pittsburgh, PA 15213, +1-412-268-7778 dberry@sei.cmu.edu FAX:+1-412-268-5758
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 23:44:45 CET
From: <KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Multiple copies within PS file
 <1992Nov10.002304.23079@u.washington.edu>

Try inserting the following line in a suitable place in the setup block of
your PS file or sending it as a single command before your PS file:

/#copies N def

where N is an integer (don't ask me what the range is!). Ref "Postscript
Language Reference Manual", 2nd ed., Adobe Systems Inc., p629 where example
is given. However be sure to reset the no. of copies to 1 after you have
finished printing your multi-copy document!

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From: aaron@eelpout.micro.umn.edu (Aaron C. Sawdey)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Who bakes the Best PostScript?
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:44:33 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

In <1992Nov12.153918.12371@usiva.com> brooks@usiva.com (Lyle D. Brooks) writes:

>So what makes for the best PostScript??

>a) DSC conformance
>b) Size
>c) Performance
>d) Readability
>e) Viewing
>f) None of the Above

 1) Nice postscript files don't make assumptions about what kind
    of printer they're going to be printed on. This means don't
    don't expect the CTM to have any particular form. It also 
    means never use setmatrix to set it to an arbitrary matrix.
    Things like clippath, should not be used to try and figure
    out pagesize, etc. either. This stuff is for the most part
    in Appendix I of the Red Book 2/e.

 2) I think some of the best (nicest) postscript output I've seen
    is Adobe Illustrator (perhaps not surprising considering
    the people responsible for it.) This is of course a personal
    opinion formulated through considerable experience working
    with the postscript generated by Illustrator '88 and 3.0. 
    Mainly, I can't remember any time I leaped up from my terminal
    and ran around the room swearing at whoever wrote this 
    stupid, ignorant @$%! piece of code.

 3) Some of the worst postscript I've seen was from PC programs.
    (CorelDraw comes to mind.) Mathematica was responsible for
    the comment about not expecting the CTM to have a particular 
    form. 

 4) Good postscript code can be as compact as you like, and have
    as much "algorithmic" cleverness as you want. All I ask for
    is a few comments in the header so I can see what you're doing
    if I need to change something for some reason. DSC conformance
    is very useful. We (and other people I'm sure) are starting to
    make more use of filters that automatically add fonts, procsets,
    etc. Performance is only an issue if you produce code that's
    noticably slower than you'd expect given the size of the file,
    output produced, etc.

 5) I work for a typesetting company. For me, bad PostScript
    is postscript that doesn't print out right on some particular
    device, or can't be inserted into another postscript file
    without being modified or "fixed." The things mentioned
    in 3 are some of the ones I can remember swearing at.


					Aaron Sawdey
					Publication Services, Inc.
					1802 S. Duncan Rd.
					Champaign, IL 61821
					aaron@pubserv.com (email only)
From: flagg@blind-lemon.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Question on curveto command
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:12:43 GMT
Organization: UNLV

In article <55766@dime.cs.umass.edu> lim@cs.umass.edu writes:
 "
 "Does the curveto command use cubic B-splines? Thanks in advance.
 "
 "
 "Jonathan Lim
 "lim@cs.umass.edu

No, curveto uses Bezier cubic curves derived from a pair of parametric cubic  
equasions.

	x(t) = at^3 + bt^2 + ct + x
	y(t) = at^3 + bt^2 + ct + y

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: anselmo@cumesb.mech.columbia.edu (Andrew P. Anselmo)
Subject: Shifting an EPS image on the page
Organization: Columbia University Department of Mechanical Engineering
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:49:26 GMT
X-Posted-From: cumesb.mech.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


I've figured out how to convert a PS image to and EPS image,
(suitable to be imported to a drawing program called tgif), but how
do I shift the image around on the page?  I'm sure this is a simple
operation.  Changing the bounding box seems to do nothing...


-A.
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	      Thermal Science Research Laboratory (236A Mudd) 
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Xref: sparky comp.lang.postscript:5386 comp.periphs.printers:3210 comp.unix.questions:12973 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:29018
From: alawa@gna.axis-design.fr (Allaoua Bouabdallah)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.periphs.printers,gnu.ghostscript.bugs,comp.unix.questions,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: PostScript -> Cannon lbp4 ??? (Hurrah !! That works)
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:03:25 GMT
Organization: GNA c/o Axis Design 119 rue de Flandre, 75019 Paris, France


	Yes, that works. LBP8-II is compatible with the LBP4.
	Here is my /etc/printcap :

		laser|lp|Canon LBP4|my laser printer:\
		        :lp=/dev/ttya:sd=/usr/spool/lpd:lf=/dev/console:sh:1:\
		        :br#9600:ms=cs8,-onlcr,ixon,decctlq,-parity:mx#10000:
		

	That's not enough, you must have good settings in your printer.
	My printer settings :
		scaling = ON
		rotation = OFF
		ps = ON
		ecs = 8
		lp, aitoCR, autoLF = OFF
		paint = Partial
		rsmode = 8S

	Most of this settings are overriden by the commands in the file you
	print. But that is the way i got my printer works.

	It remain some prolems. By exemple i can't obtain italique fonts.
	And another problee is the slowness of the printing.
	It takes me 20mns to print the "golfer.ps" and 15mns to print
	only one page of text whith bold , Italique etc ...

-Alawa
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell)
Subject: Re: How do I recognize postscript from a file
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:27:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.065504@eklektix.com> rcd@raven.eklektix.com (Dick Dunn) writes:

>It is easy to understand why an application writer might think "well, just
>to be safe, I'll generate an end-of-job marker at the beginning of the
>job."  But it's not safe; more to the point it's not innocuous.  An empty
>job may not be a "no-op".  Adobe has taken some pains to discourage tossing
>in gratuitous ^D for some time now.

The correct way to discourage this would be to provide a defined and
acceptable operator that an application could use to indicate that
"this is the start of a new job" with the implicit effect of putting
a printer in a sane state (i.e. equivalent to after receiving ^D or EOF).
This operator could then easily be redefined by programs that expect
to include other postscript objects just as showpage is now.  Until
this happens, there is no correct way to handle all situations, and
I'd bet that there are a lot more DOS/Windows applications directly
controlling postscript printers today than there are printers being
fed by spoolers that know about adding ^D's.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: rcd@raven.eklektix.com (Dick Dunn)
Subject: Re: How do I recognize postscript from a file
Organization: eklektix - Boulder, Colorado
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:53:13 GMT

les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
...
>Then wouldn't it have been a good idea to make ^D equivalent to white
>space in postscript so the same data stream would work everywhere?

That's easy enough:
	(\004) cvn {} def
There's a good chance you'll even find this already present in userdict in
your printer...since there's not much else useful to be done with a ^D if
it manages to wander all the way down to the interpreter.  This is not
because it's the "Right Thing", but because the interpreter is being not
only correct, but helpful.  Similarly, you might find a definition like the
one above for 032 (^Z)...because DOSland thinks end-of-file is a character,
so the misbegotten ^Z's find their ways into various bizarre places.

It's still a particularly bad idea to *start* a file with ^D.

>...Instead we now have to make
>the application aware of how the data is going to be transmitted to the
>device in order to accomodate the most likely case where the application
>must supply the ^D...

When you take an application program--which here is intending to generate
a unit of PostScript output--and expect it to deal directly with the
interface to the device, including the boundaries between units of output
generated by different applications, you've got a problem.  Inevitably
there will be some rough edges, especially if (as in this case) the source
of the real problem (DOS) has to be considered immutable.  It helps if
everyone can bend a little--get the problem fixed--without losing sight of
where the problem is and how it should have been solved.

Les has contended that most PostScript printers are attached to DOS boxes.
I doubt it; I suspect more are on Macs...but that would be an interesting
question to answer.  Be that as it may, I hope you're arguing as strongly
over in a DOS newsgroup for them to get their act together on handling
printers.
-- 
Dick Dunn    rcd@raven.eklektix.com   -or-   raven!rcd    Boulder, Colorado
	...Simpler is better.
From: joachim@ee.uni-sb.de (& Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: lpd filter
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:07:37 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

terry@eece.ksu.edu (Terry Hull) writes:
: I have a HPIIIsi attached to a Sun IPC and I need a good printer filter
: to manage the printer and to do printer accounting.  We have psf3.5 and 
: have found that it works fine when we send it ascii, but it always acts
: like it can't get status from the printer when we send it preformatted
: PostScript.  My assistant has spent many hours working on this filter, but
: just cannot seem to get it to work correctly in our environment.  Is anyone
: successfully using this filter to do accounting?  Is there a better filter
: out there?  Any pointers would be appreciated.  

try lprps, it does accounting and the nessessary communication with the 
printer, like status requests and error recovery.
You can find it on ftp.cs.uni-sb.de in /pub/postscript as lprps.tar.Z, but
hopefully you also find it on a ftpserver nearby you.

Joachim

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<Ende der Fahnenstange>
From: tout@frith.msu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Code to print letters wrapped around a circle?
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:34:37 GMT
Reply-To: tout@frith.msu.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: tout@frith.egr.msu.edu

I know that CorelDraw allows such feature where you can make the text
follow a curve and make it start large and then vanish along the 
curved shape.  All I need to do here is to draw a circle and make the
text follow the circular shape on the outside (in a kind of projection
from the center of the circle).


Ex:
                   S y n
		    +  + d
		  +       + r
                +   SYMB    + o 
                +           + m
		  +       + e
		    +  +

Where we have an acronym in the center and we want to project the actual
words at the edge of the circle.
 
Please direct your responses to my e-mail address and if there enough
interest, I'll summarize and post.
  
Thanks in advance,
   
-Walid    tout@frith.msu.edu   tout@msuegr.bitnet   uunet!frith!tout
From: craig@excalibur.civil.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
Subject: gridding
Date: 6 Nov 1992 21:07:22 GMT
Organization: Civil Engineering, Univ of BC
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cyclone.civil.ubc.ca

Dear PV-Wavers

I am running PV-Wave V3.0 and we are planning
to get V4.0. I need to do a fair bit of reasonably
involved interpolation in 4 dimensions. I am under
the impression that some interpolating routines
were included with the 3.1 release (and possibly
with the 4.0?). 

I would like to know if anyone has any experience
with these gridding routines and any comparison
with the PVI product GTGRID, is there overlap?

I have data that are randomly spaced and often with
quite close spacing in one dimension relative to another.
I can be more specific on request! 

And finally do any IDL routines exist that might help?

Thanks

Craig

Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: hatay@spot.Colorado.EDU (Ferhat F. Hatay)
Subject: ftp site 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:06:15 GMT

I don't seem to be able to reach the anonymous
ftp site at the John Hopkins University.  

Any other place?

Ferhat


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Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: murthy_j@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jayant Murthy)
Subject: clip art TIFF readers
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:55:04 GMT


I have a scanned little-endian TIFF clip art file which I want to read into
IDL. The TIFF_READ program appears to only read files with 8 bits per pixel.
Does anyone have a program to read TIFF files of only a single bit per pixel?

Thanks
Jayant Murthy (murthy@pha.jhu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: silverstein@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (MARK SILVERSTEIN)
Subject: QMS output for Ultrix running IDL
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:22:00 GMT

Folks-
     We are running IDL on a DECstation 5000 model 200, running Ultrix 4.2a.
Several of our users would like to send their idl output to a QMS printer.
They claim that they have been doing so for some time on our VMS cluster.
     I asked our local IDL expert about it and he informed me that the code
to do such a thing is included in the VMS IDL as user contributed software.
He didn't believe such a thing existed in the SUNOS distribution, and had
no idea as to whether or not such a capability existed in the ULTRIX
distribution.  He suggested I post the query to this newsgroup.
                                            Thanks for any help,
                                              Mark Silverstein
From: terry@esrg.ucsb.edu (Terry Figel)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
Subject: True Color Hard Copy not working in IDL.
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:01:27 GMT
Reply-To: terry@esrg.ucsb.edu (Terry Figel)
Organization: UCSB Earth Space Research Group


-- 
Is there some special parameter I need to get true color (24 bit) 
or is it impossible to do so?

set_plot,'ps'
device,file='/local/tmp/24bit.ps',/color
stretch,0,50
tv,r,channel=1
tv,g,channel=2
tv,bb,channel=3
device,/close
set_plot,'x'

in the first device call it will not take bits_per_pixel=24

thanks
-Terry



___________________________________________________________________________
Terry Figel				Internet: terry@esrg.ucsb.edu
Earth Space Research Group, UCSB	Phone   : 805-893-7039  
5276 Hollister Ave. #260		Fax     : 805-964-0157
Goleta CA 93111
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: ekase@teal.csn.org (Ed Kase)
Subject: DXF files
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:24:03 GMT

I have a customer who needs to read DXF files into PV-WAVE.  this
customer does not have InterNet access.  If anyone has information
or procedures for reading DXF files please send e-mail to me.


Thanks.
-- 
-- "Sames as it ever was..." Talking Heads --
Ed Kase, Senior Technical Support Engineer
(303) 530-9000 x211
Precision Visuals, Inc.			ekase@pvi.com
Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: sterner@warper.jhuapl.edu (Ray Sterner)
Subject: Re: ftp site 
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:07:02 GMT

hatay@spot.Colorado.EDU (Ferhat F. Hatay) writes:

>I don't seem to be able to reach the anonymous
>ftp site at the John Hopkins University.  

  A number of people had problems accessing the JHU/APL
  IDL ftp site.  It was down for awhile over the weekend but
  seems to be working ok now, please try again.  Make sure
  you are using ftp and not telnet.  Sorry for any inconvenience.

  Ray Sterner                     sterner%str.decnet@warper.jhuapl.edu 
  Johns Hopkins University        North latitude 39.16 degrees.
  Applied Physics Laboratory      West longitude 76.90 degrees.
  Laurel, MD 20723-6099
From: dank@cco.caltech.edu (Daniel R. Kegel)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.vhdl
Subject: Synthesis & the example CPU in "VHDL Cookbook"?
Date: 7 Nov 1992 17:06:58 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

We're about to plunk down $$$ for a logic synthesis package.
I just finished reading "The VHDL Cookbook", and noticed that 
its RTL level example description of the 32 bit CPU "DP32" contained lots
of wait statements inside processes (figure 7-26).  The waits are
usually of the form
	wait until phi1 = '1';

I seem to recall that synthesis vendor X's software places big
restrictions on where wait statements can occur.
Can *any* synthesis tools handle the DP32 example? 
I'd like to fill in (and expand) the following table:
    vendor	  avail?	DP32?
    Mentor	  now		?
    Synopsis	  now		?
    Exemplar	  now		?
    Cadence	  (1Q93)	?
    Instant Logic (1Q93)	?

If you can help, please send me e-mail; I'll summarize.
Thanks!  (And thanks to Peter Ashenden for his great intro to VHDL!)
- Dan Kegel (dank@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov)
From: tsai@hal.com (Finnegan T. Tsai)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.vhdl
Subject: Wanted: Informations on parallel VHDL/Verilog Simulators
Keywords: parallel processing, VHDL, Verilog, Logic Simulator
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:41:39 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
NNTP-Posting-Host: molly.hal.com


Hi, Experts


I am trying to gather any informations related to event-driven 
parallel VHDL or Verilog simulators. Would you please help me?
Any clues to papers or academic researches are highly appreciated.



Desperately Finney
Newsgroups: comp.lang.vhdl