From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: computer terminology in Greek
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:43:57 GMT

In article <rizos.720818579@cs.man.ac.uk> rizos@cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou) writes:
>O Spiros Triantafyllopoulos (c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com) ek0etei 
>kapoies skepseis, opoy tassetai yper ths xrhshs Agglikhs orologias 
>gia tin Pliroforiki, stin Ellada.
>
>>Den mporw na katalabw giati swnei kai kala prepei na ellhnikopoihsoume
>>ta panta. Dustuxws h glwssa mas den exei thn katallhlh orologia. H
>>tha kanoume swsth orologia (eukolo se merikes episthmes alla polu 
>>duskolo se alles opws px computer science) h tha synexisoume na
>>xrishmopoioume agglika.
>
>Alitheia, ti simainei oti mia glwssa den exei th swsti orologia; Einai
>h orologia kati to opoio yparxei `emfyto' se mia glwssa h' kati to 
>opoio h idia h glwssa diamorfwnei; Kai giati i elliniki glwssa den exei
>th dynatotita na diamorfwsei "swsti" orologia; Kai akomi giati h diamor-
>fwsi "swstis" orologias stin pliroforiki einai dyskolh se sxesi me alles
>epistimes; Sigoyra h elliniki orologia den einai aytoskopos, alla ayto 
>den shmainei oti prepei na agnohsoyme kathe prospatheia. Giati h nea
>grammateas, tha prepei na akoyei gia `word processing', kai oxi gia
>`epksergasia keimenoy';
>
>Den nomizw oti yparxei tipota lathos stin apodosi tis orologias sta
>Ellinika. Hdh xrhsimopoiountai ellinikes lekseis gia arketoys oroys kai 
>nomizw epityxhmena. Alloy yparxoun antikroyomenes apopseis, kai 
>alloy xrisimopoioyntai oi Agglikoi oroi elleipsei ikanopoihtikoy Ellinikoy. 
>Me tin parodo twn xronwn, kapoies lekseis tha epikratisoyn kai tha diamorfwthei
>ena elliniko leksilogio Pliroforikis, to opoio den briskw logoys giati na min
>einai apodekto (to paradeigma me ta Mathimatika htan xaraktiristiko). 
>Ksekinwntas apo to oti gia tin apodosi tis orologias kyrios 
>stoxos den einai i akribis metafrasi, alla h katanohsh twn ennoiwn poy 
>antistoixoyn stoys ksenoys oroys kai h aneyresi Ellinikwn leksewn poy na 
>apodidoyn to nohma, den nomizw oti einai dyskoli h stadiaki anaptyksi kai 
>kathierwsi Ellinikwn orwn. Etsi, metafraseis san tis epomenes, nomizw oti 
>einai apolyta akribeis:
>
>   Desktop Publishing = Epitrapezia typografia
>   Compiler = Metaglwtisths
>   Data Structures = Domes Dedomenwn
>   Linked list = Syndedemeni lista 
>   Expert System = Empeiro systima (h' systhma empeirognwmonas kata alloys)
>                 klp.
>
>Alitheia, ti to asximo briskeis gia tin xrisimopoihsh tis lekshs `parathyro'
>anti `window', h' `pontiki' anti `mouse'; Kai tha protimoyses to `artificial
>intelligence' apo to `texnhth nohmosynh'; Se teliki analysi, den milame kai
>gia metafrasi toy `byte' (an kai ena glwssario Pliroforikis poy eixe
>ekdosei palaiotera h EPY - isws h prwti prospatheia apodosis ksenwn orwn
>sta Ellinika - edine ton oro `pshfioleksh'), para to gegonos oti oi
>Galloi (prwtoporoi sto na anaptyssoyn Galliki orologia) moy fainetai to 
>metefrasan kai ayto...
>
>
>>Re paidia, edw exoume "Hamburger Shops" kai "SALES" kai "HOTELS" kai
>>"BOUZOUKI CLUBS" kai "TOURIST BEECH" [sic :-)] kai ta "data
>>structures" mas peiraksan?
>
>To oti yparxei kati strabo s'enan tomea den shmainei oti prepei na
>ka0ierwthei pantoy...

	Twra pou to skeftomai, einai fush adhnaton na kanoume thn metafrash.
H episthm twn computers au3anetai sei polu gorgo ri8mo gia na thn prolaboume.
Pws einai dhnaton na metafrazoume orous otan gia na ma8oume ta teleutaia
nea prepei na ta ma8oume sta Agglika. An programatiseis se mia glwsa tote
prepei na thn ala3eis prwta se ellhnika. Ara 8a perimenoume gia thn Ellhnikh
ekdosh. Twra giath na ginei h Ellhnikh otan kaneis den agorazei to
programa outos h allos. 90% h peiratia sthn Ellada sumfwna me ena periodiko
Ellhniko. Suna autou otan bgei h glwssa sta Ellhnika twter ollo
to source code me ta coments (e3egiseis ;) einai sta agglika outos
h allos. Pali xanoume. Einai fhsh adhnaton loipon na ma8h kaneis gia
tous computesr xwris thn gnwsh ths Agglikhs. To idio einai gia
apandaxou ton kosmo. Oroi omws prepei na metafrastoun gia tous
orous po 8a xrisimopoioun o kosmos. dhladh to pondiki, to para8hro.
Oroi me tous opoious 3ekinane oi ma8htes. Prwgramma, glwssa, o8onh,
pliktrologio. Me tous opious na mhn panikoblh8h kai na ta parathsei.
	
	Autaaaaaaaaaa	
		George


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