HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ratan@ring8.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Banerjee's selection & cribbing
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:22:04 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Some of us are sick and tired of reading about some netters' cribbing
regarding the selection of Banerjee in the Indian team. 

What did Amre do when he got his chance last time in Australia??
                        NOTHING

These netters have no problem on Amre's selection. I tell you, Anybody
can do better than what he did. Now, if you compare Banerjee, do you
remember a ODI in which he slogged real well when needed, and when
others failed. In a test, in a day he took all the three or four
wickets, but next day probably Azhar thaougt that his quota of taking
wickets was over and didn't make him bowl again. I don't remeber a
single criticism against this action of Azhar. 

And for that matter, Jadeja or Srinath also have proven that they are
not of international quality either. So why cribbing about Banerjee.
                        Any reason ????????????

Cool it guys
From: karnik@mega.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Schedule for SA
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:27:38 GMT

In <1992Oct5.023207.27958@engr.latech.edu> sista@engr.latech.edu (Ravi K. Sista) writes:

>"Can anybody post the full schedule of the Indian Team tour of South Africa
>and Zimbabwe.  I did not note that down when some one last posted on the
>Network.  

>Ravi Kumar Sista

	Sighh.... here we go again. I don't have the Zimbabwe schedule, and I
haven't seen it posted, so if any of you have it, please post. Here's the 
SA tour itinerary.

Dates		India vs			Venue
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Oct 29		Nicky Oppenheimer XI		Halfway House
Oct 31 - Nov 3	Combined Bowl 			Springs
Nov 6  - Nov 9	President's XI			Centurion Park
Nov 13 - Nov 17 SA - FIRST TEST			Durban
Nov 20 - Nov 23	SA Invitational XI		Bloemfontein
Nov 26 - Nov 30	SA _ SECOND TEST		Johannesburg
Dec 4		President's XI			Pietermaritzburg
Dec 7		SA - 1st ODI			Cape Town
Dec 9		SA - 2nd ODI			Port Elizabeth
Dec 11		SA - 3rd ODI			Centurion Park
Dec 12		SA - 4th ODI			Johannesburg
Dec 15		SA - 5th ODI			Bloemfontein
Dec 17		SA - 6th ODI			Durban
Dec 19		SA - 7th ODI			East London
Dec 21 - Dec 23 Combined Univs, Colleges...	East London
Dec 26 - Dec 30 SA - THIRD TEST			Port Elizabeth
Jan 2  - Jan 6	SA - FOURTH TEST		Cape Town
____________________________________________________________________________


--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
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From: mtc@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Mark Cousins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: IMO BEST INDIAN XI  (1970 - 90)
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:49:37 GMT
Organization: HP General Systems Division

> Here's an Indian team selected on the basis of individual performances
> between 1970 and 1990. All IMHO of course!

>     1.  S. M. Gavaskar
>     2.  Farookh Engineer (wk)
>     3.  M. Amarnath
>     4.  G. R. Vishwanath  (vice-capt)
>     5.  D. B. Vengsarkar
>     6.  M. A. K. Pataudi  (capt)
>     7.  Kapil Dev         
>     8.  Eknath Solkar
>     9.  E. A. S. Prasanna
>     10. B. S. Bedi
>     11. B. S. Chandrasekhar

>     12th man: M. Azharuddin
    
I'd choose Kirmani over Engineer, and have Solkar and Azhar trade places.  The
batting order would be:
Gavaskar, Amarnath, Azharuddin, Vishwanath, Vengsarkar, Pataudi,
Kapil, Kirmani, Prasanna, Bedi, and Chandrasekhar.

Of course, if one could talk the Colonel to open with Gavaskar, it would be:
Gavaskar, Vengsarkar, Amarnath, Vishwanath, Azharuddin, followed by the rest.

I'd prefer the latter order if Vengsarkar could do justice to opening the
innings.  If he failed, I'd even entertain the idea of replacing him with
Chetan Chauhan.

Pankaj Shah, posting from a friend's account.  My email address is
pshah@cup.hp.com.
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Imran Khan -retiring again?
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:10:58 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <BvCttC.CE6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> khan@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (LAHORI POOND) writes:
>
>As far as the question as to wether we really need him in our team, well I think he knows the answer to that better than anyone else.    
>

I don't think Imran is the type to stick around if he is not needed.
But that is not what he says.  In an interview with the Cricketer (Pakistan)
after the World Cup he said he would like to keep playing so that money can 
keep pouring in for his hospital.  I thought that was a rather strange statement.

j n a.
Xref: sparky rec.sport.cricket:15215 soc.culture.pakistan:15407
From: hasnie@ecn.purdue.edu (Rizwan Hasnie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: AN INTERESTING ARTICLE (Repost)
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:55:24 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network



I found a very interesting article on Cricket in London's Newpaper "The Times"
dated August 26, 1992. The article appeared on the front page. I am reproducing
it without the consent of "The Times" with all due apologies.
                                                      Rizwan

   
******************************************************************************** 
                SCIENTISTS GO IN TO BOWL FOR ENGLAND

                       By Alan Hamilton


Scientists at the University of Hertfordshire have set up a research project to
crack the code of an enemy secret weapon that has inflicted great damage on
England.  Using computers, wind tunnels, the laws of aerodynamics and a large
number of cricket balls, they will attempt to discover exactly how the
Pakistani bowlers Waqar Younis and Wasim Akram achieve their devastating
reverse swing.

Final-year students in aerospace engineering at the university, formerly
Hatfield Polytechnic, will be set to work on the project when they return for
the new term in October.  They hope to have an answer by May, in good time for
next year's first-class season.

Andrew Lewis, a lecturer more used to teaching the principles of aircraft 
performance and stability, decided to seek a scientific explanation after his
department had received calls from newspapers wanting to know how Waqar and 
Wasim achieved such odd trajectories with the ball. "We tried to get the
answer from the horses's mouth, saying we were engaged in serious research,
but the Pakistani officials gave us the brush-off; there is a bit of an
atmosphere at the moment," Mr Lewis said yesterday.

"A normal outswing bowler holds the polished side to the right, and angles
the seam towards the slips.  The net effect is to make the ball move away from 
the batsman.  Waqar keeps the polished side to the right, but the ball swings
in to the batsman," Mr Lewis said. "I cannot find  a ready explanation for
this; he must angle the seam towards fine leg, like an inswing bowler, but an
inswing bowler keeps the polished side to the left.  One ought to cancel the
other out, but it doesn't."

Research will not be easy.  According to Mr Lewis, the airflow patterns
round a ball in the wind tunnel will be very small and difficult to measure,
and whatever the ball is mounted on may falsify the results.

Some research has already been done on cricketing aerodynamics, but its
conclusions are unsatisfactory.  Received wisdom states that a new ball 
swings more than an old because of its more pronounced seam, a law entirely
ignored by Waqar, who barely swings the new ball at all.

Cricket balls, according to Mr Lewis, are fickle things, and how they behave  
is only partially understood.  There is, for example, no explanation of why
they swing more under cloudy skies than in sun.  Mr Lewis will be happy to
make his findings known to the England team next year, but has a suspicion
that they will not do them much good.
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Subject: Re: Worst Aussie side since 1970
From: warren@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Warren Turner)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:24:16 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
X-Mailer: mail-news 4.0



|>> Jim Higgs 12th man
|>>      Clearly the worst bat and fieldsman to have played Test cricket for 
|>>      Australia in the last 20 years. Unfortunately he was a very good leggy
|>>      so we can't get him into the side proper.
|>
|>He was a very very good leggy, and if someone of his calibre was around
|>today, they would be in the team for sure.  At any rate his batting
|>improved significantly at the end of his career, even making double figures
|>on occasion!  :-)  Certainly New Zealanders will remember his partnership
|>with Dougie Walters in 1981 when Dougie scored his last test hundred and
|>Higgs was given not out when caught off a bouncer from a medium pacer!
|>
|>I think that medium pacer was Richard Hadlee but I believe that I was drunk in
|>Bay 13 at the time.           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No, Hadlee was still a fast bowler then. It was actually that devastating
pace merchant, Lance Cairns, probably the only 'bouncer' he bowled in his
whole life (1981 - a good year for aussie umpires :-)).


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From: u9066624@cc.uow.edu.au (Tippu Hassan)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 04:32:09 GMT

5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>Here is my ALL World team of 80's
>----------









>1.Gavaskar
>2.Greenidge
>3.Richards
>4.Miandad
>5.Gower
>6.M.Crowe
>7.Kapil Dev
>8.Imran Khan
>9.Dujon
>10.Hadlee
>11.Qadir

>If it had been 70's there would have been a surfeit of great
>keepers. Like,KNott, Taylor,Marsh,Kirmani,Bari and Deryck Murray.



hmm A superb team. but lacking a bowler. Id drop M crow and include either
M marshal or maninder depending on the wicket being.



>Bye,

>************************************************************
>N.Ramasubramanian          	GO BREWERS ! GO !    

>Dept. of Mech. Engg.	        Listach for ROY
>Marquette University       
>************************************************************
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From: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Subject: Re: Sensationalism?!! Me?!!!
Reply-To: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:47:24 GMT


Hi Murali,
Sorry if I've offended you.
I know that there is politics in Indian cricket.
But I don't think that the exclusion of Maninder has anything to do with that
incident. If so, why didn't it affect Prabhakar? He's from the same state
and he also doesn't have any Godfather in BCCI.     
Mohinder's exclusion was totally unjustified. But, in this case Raju has many 
points in his favour. He was very economical in the World Cup (in fact, vs
WI he was the one who stopped the flow of runs). He may not be very penetrative
but when has Maninder won a match for India single-handedly? Ok, maybe he's 
better now, but if the selectors think that Raju needs more chances no one can
blame them totally. Moreover, Azhar likes Raju (I'm sure if Kapil was the 
captain Maninder would be back). So, I'll again state that this decision of the
selectors is in no way comparable to some of the blunders they have made in the
past.
- Sougata

==============================================================================	
  Sougata Mukherjea (sougata@cc.gatech.edu)
  Graphics Visualization and Usability Center
  College of Computing
  Georgia Institute of Technology 
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: kpw105@phys.anu.edu.au (Ken Wessen)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Followup-To: rec.sport.cricket
Organization: Theoretical Physics, Australian National University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:25:46 GMT

In article <00961702.FF66D0A0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
wrote:
> 
> Here is my ALL World team of 80's
> ----------
> 

> 
> 1.Gavaskar
> 2.Greenidge
> 3.Richards
> 4.Miandad
> 5.Gower
> 6.M.Crowe
> 7.Kapil Dev
> 8.Imran Khan
> 9.Dujon
> 10.Hadlee
> 11.Qadir
> 

No Botham?  No Border?  No West Indian Bowlers???????

How about...

Haynes Greenidge Richards Miandad Border Botham Imran Marshall Kirmani
Garner Qadir

Hadlee - too bad, but his record reflects the fact that he had many more
opportunities of bowling at tailenders than Marshall etc.

Gavaskar - nearly in, but I prefer choosing openers as a pair.  Maybe I'm
being a bit harsh on the record run scorer here, but the original poster
left out Border who is second anyway.....

Flame shields on.

Kapil Dev - you've got to be joking!

Flame shields off.

Crowe and Gower - great to watch when in form, but without the performances
to match the batsmen chosen.

Chappell, Marsh, Lillee etc not considered since most of their cricket was
played in the 70's.

Ken
From: ravi@wti.com (Ravi Raj)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Indian Southpaws
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:38:46 GMT
Organization: Wavefront Technologies Inc, Santa Barbara, CA
X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc.

In article <00961A39.EB4DC940@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Surinder got a century on debut, but could not break the jinx (no Indian
>batsman who had made a century on debut scored another century throughout his
>career, until Vishy made history). Despite half-centuries and reasonably good

There's another player who broke that jinx. Azharuddin! He started off
with not just a century on debut, but 2 or 3 at a stretch, didn't he?
-- 
--
Ravi N. Raj                                   ravi@wti.com
                                              Lakers - Knicks '93
From: mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: All Rounders
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:29:41 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Sep26.081251.18672@tamsun.tamu.edu>, svb0224@zeus.tamu.edu (BALIJEPALLI, SRIDHARREDDY V) writes:
>  
>         A lot of discussion has benn going on the net regarding the four great
> all rounders of the modern era, their relative rankings and rating etc. Though
> it's tough to say who's the best or rank them, hrer are my rankings of these
> great players. I am considering batting, bowling, fielding, captaincy, fitness
> and temperament in my rankings. I'll rate them on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 as 
> the highest point and 1 the lowest. Finally, I'll add up the scores of each 
> player and divide by 6, the number of disciplines considered. So, here it goes:
>  

An, um, interesting exercise although the equal weightings on each 
factor seem unjustifiable.  Also, I reckon you might have figured out 
your totals before filling in the numbers ??  One problem, though, is 
your fitness rankings:

> e)Fitness:Quite fit though he had some major problems in 88 and 89. gets a 6.
   
> e) Fitness: No qusetion mark over fitness. Has missed very few matches due to 
>            fitness problems. Was amazingly fit even when he retired. 7.
> 
> e)Fitness:Quite fit though he had major shin problems. Looked fit during the
>           world cup.He gets a 7 
> 
> e)Fitness:Super fit despite the fact that he had to play continuous cricket
>           for 14 years. Played lots and lots of cricket in those 14 years.
>           Had a knee operation in 84. He gets an 8.      
> 
> 

Players 1 and 3 are both "quite fit though they had some major 
problems" yet 1 gets 6 and 3 gets 7.  And player 2 who is "amazingly 
fit" and has "no question mark over fitness" scores less than a player 
with a knee operation and the same as old "quite fit with dodgy 
shins".  Hmmm ... looks like this is the category where the ex ante 
numbers were adjusted to get the desired ex post totals ... ??
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: ccjwm@marlin.jcu.edu.au (John Miller)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 06:04:25 GMT

In article <BvMMwB.JI9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.011929.20075@marlin.jcu.edu.au> ccjwm@marlin.jcu.edu.au (John Miller) writes:
>
>>1st team (Others' choices)		2nd team (my choices)
>>--------------------------		---------------------
>>
>> 1.Gavaskar				 1.Haynes
>> 2.Greenidge				 2.Gooch
>> 3.Richards			 	 3.Zaheer
>> 4.Miandad				 4.Greg Chappell
>> 5.Border				 5.Gower
>> 6.Kapil Dev				 6.Clive Lloyd (Capt.)
>> 7.Imran Khan (Capt.)			 7.Botham
>> 8.Dujon				 8.Rod Marsh
>> 9.Hadlee				 9.Garner
>>10.Malcolm Marshall			10.Lillie
>>11.Qadir				11.Holding
>>12.Maninder				12.Phil Edmonds
>
>This second team is a bit silly.  Presumably, players like
>Chappell, Marsh, Lillee, Lloyd, Holding,and Zaheer were excluded
>from consideration from the first XI, as the majority of their
>cricket was played in the 70's.  If one is going to consider
>these players, then some of them -- at least the first three
>mentioned -- will be automatic choices for the first XI.  So
>the second XI should also be made up of real 80's players.  So
>(going with the first XI given above):
>

I still reckon they played enough in the 80's to get a run.  The
point was that for every "best" side you pick, you can pick a 2nd
which will be just as hard to beat as the 1st depending on the
conditions etc.
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From: mrizvi@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Mr. Mubashir Rizvi)
Subject: Re: Pakistan vs Rest of The World
Organization: Univ. Western Ontario, London Ont. CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:47:14 GMT

IIn article <1992Sep30.201045.26075@julian.uwo.ca>, raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed) writes:
|> In article <mamohamm.717705464@vela>, mamohamm@pluto.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> 	Does anybody know what happened to the match between 
|> |> 	Pakistan and Rest of the World in Toronto?
|> |> 
|> |> 
|> |> -- 
|> |> ____________________________________________________________________
|> |> A Man Wants To Be The Girl's First Love,
|> |> 			  A Woman Wants To Be The Man's Last Romance
|> |> 					  < somebody else's saying >
|> 
|> 
|> Rest of the world won the match by six wkts, scores:
|> 
|> Pakistan 320/8 in 45 overs (Mudassar 149*, Inzi 82)
|> Rest of the world 321/4 in 37.? overs (B.Lara 104, Tendulkar 78*)
|> 
|> The match was played on a small ground of sky dome around thirty sixes were
|> hit in match! cricket wise it was more of a joke but it was fun watching it.
|> Around 25000 fans turned up to watch the match.
|> 
|> Personally i think that if they are really interested in organising cricket
|> in North America then they should organise it in Sharjah's manner, i.e., they should 
|> organise international matches. These type of matches b/w some country and world eleven
|> does'nt appeal cricket crowd and players both. IMO market here in NA is bigger then
|> sharjah b/c big numbers of WIian population is also living over here.
|> 
|> To make it short cricket organisers in NA are basically cricket illetrate(IMHO offcourse)
|> what we need is someone like Asif Iqbal.
|> 
|> Any opinions?
|> 
|> S.R.Raza
  
 I agree with you.Even a 2 team series of say 3 matches will generate
 much more interest than a bunch of World XI games.
                                                
 M.RIZVI
From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Indian Team
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:50:52 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <5b864daee.0038c4c@myrrh.engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:

>......). Spots of joy - Raman (India's answer to David Gower) and Jadeja (most
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I wonder...do you live on the same planet as I do...the one called Earth?

Mahesh.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: ramana@unislc.uucp (Ramana Ramachandran)
Subject: Re: Pakistan Vs Rest Of The World X1
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:35:30 GMT

Sanjay Kohli (v079rbu4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: 	Rest Of The World X1 won by 6 Wickets (321 in 37 overs).  I really 
: enjoyed watching Lara and Tendulkar beat the hell out of Pakistani Bowlers. 
: Most of the Bowlers bowled with Short RunUp except WAQUAR YOUNIS(so called 
: Worlds Fastest Bowler); Tendulkar hit 3 Sixes on WAQUAR YOUNIS bowling; 
: 2 of the were Consecutive Balls and 1 was right after the drinks break 
: which was a hook on WAQUAR'S Bouncer.  When Tendulkar was hitting Pakistani 
: bowlers all over the ground it became India Vs Pakistan (instead of rest of 
: the world) and crowd went wild. 

	Take it easy buddy.Its obvious that its an exhibition match.Its
	bound to be a high scoring match and the win or loss proves nothing.
	Its probably to keep guys like you happy :-) :-) :-)
: 
: Cheers
: 
: P.S. I loved Tendulkars pull(another six) on Wasim Akram's ball. 

ramana
From: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell,G2,3123,homephone)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Trivia was (Re: Best england XI since 1970)
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:24:49 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

In article 20061@eng.ufl.edu, yelton@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (John M. Yelton) writes:
> In article <1acqmoINN3nk@aludra.usc.edu> vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep30.133741.9480@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk writes:
> >>
> >>After the worst England XI since 1970 here's the best one (IMHO)
> >
> >>1. Geoff Boycott (Yorkshire)
> >>2. Graham Gooch (Essex)
> >>3. David Gower (Leicestershire/Hampshire)
> >>4. Derek Randall (Nottinghamshire)
> >>5. Tony Greig (Sussex)
> >>6. Ian Botham (Somerset/Worcestershire/Durham)
> >>7. Alan Knott (Kent) (wk)
> >>8. Ray Illingworth (Yorkshire/Leicestershire) (captain)
> >>9. Derek Underwood (Kent)
> >>10. John Snow (Sussex/Warwickshire)
> >>11. Bob Willis (Surrey/Warwickshire)
> >>12th man Mike Gatting (Middlesex)
> >
> >Gooch over Amiss?
> I would be tempted to play both.
> >
> >Did Cowdrey play in the early 70s? 
> Too late for his prime
> >
> >Can't you think of somebody else?
> If the team is to play the Aussies bring back David Steele!
> If 1990 is included then Robin Smith gets my vote.
> >
> >I say make Randall the 12th man and put a specialist bat in there.
> >
> >Willis is also not a good choice IMHO. 
> >No better than Lever.
> >Pringle (Derek) at his best (mid 80s) would have been a better choice.
> I like Pringle but in an all-star team? He has never been sure of his
> place for England. 
> >
> And now for a trivia question. What England batsman of the era 1970-1990
> has the best batting average (minimum 10 completed innings to keep 
> out Andy LLoyd who was never out, just concussed).
> Few people get this one right without looking it up.
> >
> >
> >
> >- Vaseeharan
> >
> >


I would guess at Clive Radley. Played against some weak teams in the Packer era
(1977-8), Rod Hogg hit him on the head in Oz 78-9 and that was it for his test
career.

tony bell