From: jsv@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Julian Visch)
Subject: Re: Is satan really evil?
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Canterbury
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:55:52 GMT

In article <Bxv7FI.9E7@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, jspence@cmptrc.lonestar.org (John Spence) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov16.112709.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys224@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
|> >In the flood,innocent beings of all kinds are killed (even human babies!)
|> >The chosen people move about the landscape,annihalating people as they go.
|> >God's punishments in the old testement are nothing short of ridiculous
|> >and cruel.he wants our faith and obedience,yet refuses to offer evidence of
|> >his own existence? much of the bible surely cannot be read literally,
|> >some statements are crazy e.g. the new jerusulum in revelations is huge
|> >and perfectly square;such a city can only fit on a flat earth!etc, most
|> >of whats in the bible conflicts with evolutionary theory,biology,physics
|> >etc. So why should i believe in it?
|> What! Do you not believe in myth? Metaphor? Symbols? 

Why should one believe in myths and fairy tales?
You have not answered his questions!

|> >Why do some people believe Satan is evil? dosen't satan simply want us to
|> >be ourselves,to make our own choices and morality?Lucifer seems to be
|> >the opposite of god;he wants us to be us,not just computers whose
|> >programs are scriptures.I don't belive in 'GOD' or Satan;but would
|> >worship Satan if i did.if it is true,was Satan fighting for us as well as
|>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>  And you begin to worship yourself. Good luck if you do.

Why does this mean that he is worshiping himself? And if so, so what, why can't
he worship himself after all why should one worship something that is imaginary
vs. something that is real?

|> >please,could i have replys on this issue?replys based on what satan did/
|> >wants,not on statements from the bible saying he is evil or whatever;
|> >after all,the bible is written by pro-god people.
|> >what is so wrong about inventing your own morality?i follow my own
|> >personal (atheistic) beliefs,i judge them adequate;i try to cause no pain to
|> >others,actively try to help out people who need help,as well as attempt
|> >to weaken religion if i possibly can.what is so wrong with my morality?
|> >nothing that i can see.
|> >
|> This is the old emotivism tactic. "If it feels good, it must be good for
|> me!" I am curious to know on what principles would you base your
|> morality? And should I live near you? Or is it lucky for me that you are
|> in NZ and I in the USA?
|> 

It seems to me that his morality is perfectly o.k. After all his all his principles are basically "be the best person that you can be" Why you think that
it should include worshiping your god is beyond me.  I feel sorry for you that
you don't live near him as he is a caring guy who you would probably quite like if
you met him socially, he just doesn't see any sense in wasting one seventh of 
his life worshiping your god after all there are a lot better Gods to worship in
than yours.

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