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From: kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Trade Rumour
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:49:28 GMT
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics

In article <9212272031.AA25489@malibu.sfu.ca>, chim@sfu.ca (Alan Chim) writes:
> I heard on TSN last night that the rumoured trade between Edmonton and
> Toronto involving Wendel Clark, and Rob Pearson for Esa Tikannen and
> Joe Murphy will be announced Monday, when the NHL lifts the "no-trade"
> embargo.  I think this is a great trade for the Leafs, although
> Tikannen has a hefty salary, he can still do a good checking job and
> he'll be invaluable in the playoffs.  Joe Murphy will, no doubt, help
> their offense.

It's a great deal for the Leafs. Clark is always injured, Murphy is a
much better than average player and Tikannen looked like one of the better
players in the league the last couple of years. I wonder what has happened
to him in Edmonton this year. The only question is how good will Pearson
be?

KM
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From: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM (Kenneth Melcher)
Subject: Re: FLYERS notes 12/30
Reply-To: kmelcher@rafael.Arco.COM
Organization: ARCO Exploration and Production Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:34:38 GMT

Pete

Thanks again for another wonderful Flyers game summary.  I saw the boxscore in the Dallas Morning News today and noticed Lindros' name was absent (which was unusual in a 10-goal road outburst),  so I was wondering whether the knee was flaring again.

I would definitely be interested in being on your Flyers mailing list.  Your game summaries are outstanding!

Thanks,

Ken Melcher


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From: simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson)
Subject: SENATORS NEWS: Kudelski, Berthiaume in line-up tonight
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:40:35 GMT

Bob Kudelski was acquired from the L.A. Kings at 14 minutes to midnight
Saturday for Jim Thomson and Marc Fortier.  Kudelski will play tonight
on a line with Sylvain Turgeon and Dave Archibald.

Daniel Berthiaume who was accquired last week along with Pat Lawlor from a 
club in Austria, will backup Peter Sidorkiewicz tonight as well.  


Just in case anyone cares,
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From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: European cup finals in Duesseldorf
Date: 27 Dec 92 08:58:50 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

EUROPEAN CUP FINALS IN DUESSELDORF 26.12. (results only):

Group A:

Duesseldorfer EC - HC Rouen (France) 8-2 (5-1, 1-0, 2-1)
Dynamo Moskva - Jokerit Helsinki 6-0 (1-0, 1-0, 4-0 :-(

Group B:

Malmoe IF (Sweden) - Oswiecim (Auschwitz, Poland) 5-0 (2-0, 2-0, 1-0)


- Tapani Hietaniemi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: LIGHTNING NEWS: Philadelphia vs. TB 12/20
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:42:50 GMT

PHI - 1 0 0 - 1
TB  - 1 1 2 - 4

1 - PHI Lindros 16 (Recchi)             6:49
    TB  Bradley 25 (Tucker)            13:30

2 - TB  Bradley 26 (Hamrlik, Bergevin)  5:55

3 - TB  Crossman 7 (Kontos, Zamuner)    2:20
    TB  Bureau 5   (DiMaio)            14:48

Shots on goal: PHI  7-9- 3--19
               TB  12-9-10--31
Power plays:   PHI 0 of 3
               TB  0 of 2
Goalies:       PHI Soderstrom 1-2-0, 31 shots, 27 saves
               TB  Bergeron 4-2-0, 19 shots, 18 saves
Attendance:    10,425 (9th sellout)

-----

Lightning ease past Flyers, 4-1

Brian Bradley does not have the brawn or reputation that 6-foot-4 rookie
sensation Eric Lindros possesses, but that didn't prevent him from stealing
the spotlight from the NHL's newest phenomenon Sunday night at Expo Hall.

Bradley scored two goals, giving him 26, and rookie goaltender J.C. Bergeron
won his fourth game in six starts, leading Tampa Bay to a 4-1 triumph over the
Philadelphia Flyers before a crowd of 10,425.

The victory was the fourth in five games for Tampa Bay (14-20-2), which does
not skate again at Expo Hall until Jan. 16.

"From start to finish, at both ends of the ice, this was one of the best games
we've played," Lightning coach Terry Crisp.

Much of the game's attention was focused on Philadelphi's No. 88 -- Lindros --
who produced his 16th goal 6:49 into the game.

Philadelphia's attack was effectively silenced from that point. Bergeron faced
only 19 shots, three in the third period.

Bradley, 6 inches shorter and 60 pounds lighter than Lindros [is that
relevant?], tied the score at 1 at 13:30 of the opening period and put Tampa on
top for good with the lone goal of the second period. He poked a one-handed
shot inside the left goal post at the 5:55 mark.

"I saw a little opening, and I just kind of poked it in," Bradley said.

For Bradley, who never had scored more than 19 goals in seven NHL seasons, it
was his fourth multiple-goal game in Tampa's last nine. His 26 goals tie him
with Pavel Bure and Steve Yzerman for third in the league.

Doug Crossman -- with his 100th career goal -- and Marc Bureau added third-
period goals for the Lightning.

Tampa Bay's Steve Kasper, traded by Philadelphia two weeks ago, had the
responsibility of shadowing Lindros, and he did a sparkling job, helping keep
him to four shots.

"Everybody knows the key to that hockey team is Eric's line," Kasper said. "As
they go, so go the Flyers.

"We wanted to stay between him and the net, take away his ice as much as we
can and bother him a little bit, not giving him any room to go. It seemed to
work."

Lindros was skating in his second game after sitting out 27 days with a
sprained left knee.

"I'm embarrassed about our effort tonight," he said.

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Trade rumor I can't believe
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:12:38 GMT

In article <1h7fe0INNloa@fnnews.fnal.gov> jeffk@cdibm.fnal.gov (Jeff Kallenbach) writes:
>In the Hawks' pregame Saturday, it was mentioned that a deal that would have 
>sent Joe Murphy to Toronto for Wendell Clark (even up) was gonged by.....
>the Leafs!  I know they must have exercised some bad judgement along the way to 
>be so consistently weak, but this one is too much to believe.  Can anyone 
>confirm this?

It is hard to tell who is telling the truth about this one...supposedly
in September, Fletcher turned down this deal...

...the current version of this transaction is more complicated with
Murphy and Tikkanen being offered for Pearson and Clark with perhaps
another prospect in addition going one way or another...I have seen
different things in print...that Fletcher is holding out for Rice and
that Sather is holding out for Convery...but then this whole deal
could only be a ruse by Sather to put more pressure on
Pulford to come through with the Kravchuk-Krivokrasov offer.

If it is just Murphy and Tikkanen for Pearson and Clark, I think the
Leafs would be coming out ahead in talent...but the Oilers would be
relieving themselves of Tikkanen's hefty contract...Tikkanen has not
played like a million dollar player, and if someone is willing to
assume the financial risk of that contract, Sather might have to be
willing to lose on the talent end.  

I'm not overly impressed by Pearson, but then I don't think Burns
is a very good coach, especially for younger players.  Watt was even a
better coach than Burns, and I think Fletcher will regret hiring
Burns.  The coach Fletcher should have hired was Dave King...which
also would have had the effect of denying King to Calgary.
Pearson might be an entirely different player under Ted
Green.  Clark will be Clark.

I don't
particularly think Murphy would play well under Burns...for Murphy's
sake, I would rather see him playing with Roenick...their speed
complements each other, and their ages and experience are well-matched
to be a duo for the rest of the decade.  Roenick and Modano were
deadly in the last Canada Cup, with Modano playing the speedy
left-handed shot on right wing...Murphy is the next best thing, and
really couldn't miss in Chicago.


Gerald
Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 12:11:08 -0500 
From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: rangers & devils penalties
	<1992Dec23.152435.19610@ists.ists.ca>


On 23-Dec-92 in Re: rangers & devils
user Deepak Chhabra@stpl.ists writes:
>In article <1h8hhhINN9i8@phakt.usc.edu> dleslie@phakt.usc.edu (David
Leslie) wr
>ites:
>>
>>What happened the other night? I just saw this box score:
>>
>>First period--Penalties--
>>K.King, NYR, 1:48;
>>Cirella, NYR, 1:48;
>>Broten, NYR, 1:48;
>>Wells, NYR, 1:48;
>>Turcotte, NYR, 1:48;
>>Fetisov, NJ, 1:48;
>>Kasatonov, NJ, 1:48; 
>>Semak, NJ, 1:48; 
>>Holik, NJ, 1:48; 
>>Zelepukin, NJ, 1:48; 
>>
>>
>>Must have been a crowded penalty box!
> 
>This was the handiwork of one of my all-time hated referees, Andy Van 
>Hellemond.  Apparently after a whistle there was some pushing and
shoving, etc.
>and Andy V.  decided to be an idiot and give everyone on the ice a 2-min
>unsportsmanlike penalty.  For me, it's just another reason to dislike the 
>twit.  I really can't figure out why the play-by-play guys, etc. keep saying
>he's one of the NHL's premier officials...I think he sucks.

Considering that new commish Gary Bettman was in attendance at the game,
perhaps Andy was trying to impress him?

====================================================================
    Jim Murawski
    Sr. Data Base Analyst               (412) 268-2650  [office]
    Administrative Computing and        (412) 268-6868  [fax]
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From: mstern@wam.umd.edu (Michael Stern)
Subject: Re: edmonton oilers
Keywords: trades
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:24:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.055354.7608@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>In article <1h5ta2INN1c9@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> smcdonld@unixg.ubc.ca (Sean MacDonald) writes:
>>
>>I heard an interesting rumour :  Murphy and Tikkanen to the Leafs for
>>Wendel Clark and Rob Pearson.  As a Leaf fan and a Tikkanen non-fan, I would
>>not like to see this trade made.  I think Edmonton would win this deal, simply
>>because they are getting rid of a useless salary for two solid? players.  I
>>also think Leaf fans would be outraged over the loss of Clark, especially for
>>someone like Tikkanen, who is probably disliked a great deal due to his rep
>>as a dirty player.
>>
>
>Tikkanen isn't a dirty player...he's a talkative player...there is a
>difference between being dirty and being annoying.
>
>Gerald
>

Yeah, sure! And Tomas Sandstrom and Ulf Samuelsson are <ahem!> very
TALKATIVE too.  Nice try!  ;-]

Michael Stern	mstern@wam.umd.edu	UMCP/UDSA-ARS

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From: toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma)
Subject: This seems like the place...
Organization: Not bloody likely around here!
Distribution: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:36:40 GMT

This seems like a good place for it, as good as any. How about a
rec.sports.lacrosse?
Heck, there's a rec.sports.hockey.field, so why not a lacrosse group?
--
toma@tc.cornell.edu	rory@foopub.tucson.az.us
You want me to upgrade to System what?
From: scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Scholvin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Hawks News 12-21
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:45:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Dec22.002125.400@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.221832.17525@news.acns.nwu.edu> scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Scholvin) writes:
>>
>>The search for a left wing to skate with Roenick and Larmer continues. In the
>>last three games, I've seen Hudson, Lemieux, Gilbert, and Brown take their
>>chances. I think Sutter ought to stick with Brown, or un-mothball Goulet.
>>Lemieux and Gilbert are major parts of this team, but neither is the finesse
>>guy that needs to play with those two All Star caliber scorers. Hudson appears
>>to be clueless altogether these days, most at home on a line with Stu Grimson
>>where scoring a goal would be a wondrous surprise.
>>
>
>Joe Murphy was made to play with Roenick, and all Sather wants is
>Kravchuk and Krivokrasov...somebody should tell Pulford to go for it.
>
>Gerald

Agreed.  With Keith Brown set to return from injury soon, Kravchuk is that
much more expendable.  Pully's probably going to play it real conservative,
though. He was always afraid to make trades before, and now that the team is
playing well, he'll be even more unlikely to disturb things. *sigh*



-- 
John Scholvin                           |  "Sometimes I wish I was Catholic
scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu            |   I don't know why"
echo Y | del c:\windows\*.*             |       -Cracker
From: haral@unisol.com (Haral Tsitsivas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHLPA'93 on SEGA Genesis
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:57:00 GMT
Organization: UniSolutions Associates

In article <1hg2eqINNfih@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ch218@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Erik A. Horn) writes:
|> All in all, a great game.  I also have seen ads out for 
|> Gretzky III, which will be cool if it hits the console market,
|> if not I will just have to get the P.C. vers.

Is this the best hockey game for the Genesis or are there others?  Anyone has the 
Mario Lemieux game?

-- 
--Haral Tsitsivas,  UniSolutions Associates
  Voice: (310) 542-0068,  Fax: (310) 370-4024,  E-mail: haral@unisol.com
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From: bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse)
Subject: NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 12-29-92
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:13:46 GMT
Keywords: injury status




NHL INJURY REPORT FOR 12-29-92


TEAM	PLAYER			INJURY				DATE BACK
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NYI	Ray Ferraro		broken right leg		INDEF
NYI	Rich Pilon		strained knee ligaments 	INDEF

NYR	Jan Erixon		stiffness in hip and back	INDEF
NYR	Brian Leetch		nerve damage in neck		INDEF

PHL	Eric Lindros		sprained left knee		Jan. 02

PIT	Mike Needham		back spasms 			D-to-D

WAS	Randy Burridge		right knee surgery		INDEF
WAS	Rod Langway		shoulder and knee surgery      	INDEF

BOS	Brent Hughes		separated right shoulder	INDEF
BOS	Cam Neely		left knee surgery		INDEF
BOS	Vladmir Ruzicka		strained groin muscle		INDEF

BUF	Randy Moller		torn ligament in left knee	INDEF

HAR	Jim Agnew		torn ligament in left knee	INDEF
HAR	Tim Kerr		arth. sur. on right knee	D-to-D
HAR	Frank Pietrangelo	fractured right kneecap		Jan. 02

MON	Patrick Brisebois	bruised left thigh		INDEF

OTT	Jamie Baker		sprained ankle			D-to-D
OTT	Tomas Jelinek		knee surgery			INDEF
OTT	Mark Lamb		pinched nerve in neck		D-to-D
OTT	Andrew McBain		torn ligaments in left knee	INDEF

QUE	Jacques Cloutier	sprained right ankle		INDEF
QUE	Kerry Huffman		sprained left shoulder		D-to-D
QUE	Valeri Kamensky		broken right ankle		INDEF

CHI	Keith Brown		left shoulder surgery		Jan. 01
CHI	Michel Goulet		groin pull			D-to-D

MIN	Todd Elik		sprained shoulder		D-to-D

STL	Bob Bassen		broken right foot		Jan. 05
STL	Dave Lowry		sprained right knee		D-to-D
STL	Vitali Prokhorov	bruised right shoulder		D-to-D

TBL	Danton Cole		torn med. col. lig. in knee	INDEF
TBL	Basil McRae		broken left leg			Dec. 31

CAL	Kevin Dahl		strained med. col. lig.		INDEF
CAL	Al MacInnis		dislocated left hip		INDEF
CAL	Michel Petit		separated right shoulder	D-to-D

LAK	Wayne Gretzky		herniated disc			INDEF
LAK	Lonnie Loach		broken thumb			INDEF
LAK	Warren Rychel		bruised left ankle		INDEF
LAK	Dave Taylor		concussion			D-to-D

SJS	Yvon Corriveau		back strain			D-to-D
SJS	Link Gaetz		impaired motor skills		INDEF
SJS	Arturs Irbe		sprained knee			Jan. 02
SJS	Jayson More		sprained knee			D-to-D
SJS	Neil Wilkinson		back				D-to-D
SJS	Doug Wilson		sore leg			D-to-D

VAN	Dave Babych		torn ligaments in knee		INDEF
VAN	Doug Lidster		sprained knee			INDEF
VAN	Jim Sandlak		bulging disks in back		INDEF

WIN	Randy Carlyle		groin pull			D-to-D
WIN	Troy Murray		broken left foot		Jan. 23


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



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From: jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu (James J. Murawski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Jets acquire Domi (Was: Rangers acquire Olczyk from Winnipeg)
Date: 29 Dec 92 03:08:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfE4qs_00iV140vsos
	<1992Dec28.202907.12359@news.columbia.edu>
Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


On 28-Dec-92 in Re: Rangers acquire Olczyk ..
user Gary L Dare@cunixb.cc.co writes:
>If Mike Smith and his crew can turn Domi into the Dave Lumley/Mark
>Hunter-style player but with the brass balls to back up his guff,
>he'll be doing everybody a favour ...  Both King and Domi can skate
>well, and if Winnipeg gives them a chance to bang people they may 
>just be the breaks that the Jets need to dislodge themselves from 
>their stupor.

Q:  When will Probert and Domi go at it again?

A:  Not in this regular season, as the season series between Winnipeg
    and Detroit is over.

====================================================================
    Jim Murawski
    Sr. Data Base Analyst               (412) 268-2650  [office]
    Administrative Computing and        (412) 268-6868  [fax]
         Information Services           jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu
    Carnegie Mellon University          Office: UCC 155
    4910 Forbes Avenue
    Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890

    "Le Mieux!  Le Magnifique!  Soixante Six!  Claude...NON!"
From: telmerc+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris I. Telmer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Need Pens/Leafs tix, Jan 31
Date: 29 Dec 92 08:33:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfE9bga00WB50DU1d8
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


A long shot I know, but if anyone knows where I might be able
to land 5 Pens/Leafs tickets for Jan. 31, in Pittsburgh, 
please give me a call at 412 421 7415, or contact by e-mail
at telmerc@andrew.cmu.edu   .

Thanks alot..........Chris Telmer
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From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (KING COBRA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHLPA'93 on SEGA Genesis
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:33:50 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Dec28.185700.13405@unisol.com> haral@unisol.com (Haral Tsitsivas) writes:
>In article <1hg2eqINNfih@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ch218@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Erik A. Horn) writes:
>|> All in all, a great game.  I also have seen ads out for 
>|> Gretzky III, which will be cool if it hits the console market,
>|> if not I will just have to get the P.C. vers.
>
>Is this the best hockey game for the Genesis or are there others?  Anyone has the 
>Mario Lemieux game?

  NHLPA 93 is the best sport simulation game. Don't even think about buying
  MArio Lemieux Hockey. It is like one of those old nintendo hockey game.

  COBRA


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: etam@fraser.sfu.ca (Edwin Tam)
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with Linden
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:26:26 GMT

ua256@freenet.victoria.bc.ca (Tom Moffat) writes:

>What is wrong with Trevor Linden of the Canucks?
 
 If someone knew (like the coaching staff), they would have told him
by now.  Its just one of those slumps that no one can explain.  Same
goes for Bure (somewhat of a slump for him).

>went downhill since the strike last year and still seems to be sulking 
>about it this year. 

  Sulking, you're kidding, right???  How do you see this sulkiness
from the way he plays?

>   He no longer bangs and crashes the boards like the Linden of old. He just
>waites for everyone else to do the work and set him up. 

Perhaps the new rules are affecting him? I doubt it, but it may be
possible.  However, your statement about him not working and waiting
for people to set him up seems rather ludicrous.


>Some one please get him going    He used to be one of my favorite players now I think he is stinking the place out.

---

In my opinion you have a bad attitude towards Linden.  Just because
the guy is in a slump doesn't mean you should start saying
things like "he is stinking the place out".  By your reasoning you
probably puked all over Nedved when he use to suck as well (but look
at him now).  And what about Bure, he's in a bit of a slump - are you
going to start not liking him as well???  I admit I'm dissapointed in
Linden's play (as well with the play of Lumme and Plavsic), but thats
no reason to jump off the bandwagon (and back on when they start
playing again).

Just my humble opinions :-)
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