From: hla@urartu.sdpa.org (H. Hirac Asodyan)
Subject: Response to "Mutlu"
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:25:06 GMT

han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) in article <9207200034.A6945yN@
anadolu.michigan.com> responded in his/its usual way, using exactly the same 
cliches as before.

<1992Jul20.010758.28280@urartu.sdpa.org>
hla@urartu.sdpa.org (H. Hirac Asodyan)

> Well, well, well, look who is in action? A self-admitted native terrorism 
> speaker and a criminal member of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle.
> Now, let us see what you have driveled this time. Shall we?

>> As it is already evident, McCarthy is the pivotal man for the Turkish 
>> Government's Turkish Historical Society to provide non-Turks with a 

The following is retained to give the reader the taste of the stuff they will
miss in the rest of this article.

> Wow. But the problem is that Prof McCarthy is a great scholar and you clown
> is a self-admitted criminal and a genocide apologist. I like your kind of
> odds. It is clear in the light of the documents I discussed earlier, that in 
> fact the Armenian issue was not a struggle for self-determination impelled 
> by the need for independence. The activities of the Armenian Government seem 
> to have been efforts aimed at eradicating a race (the Turks) or aimed at 
> carrying out a one-sided feud, instead of being a struggle for liberation. 
> From the outset, the efforts of the Armenian Government within the Ottoman 
> borders took the form of terrorist and destructive actions aimed at mass 
> murder, cruelty and genocide, so that no other interpretation of them is 
> possible.

We have shown how "great" a scholar Justin McCarthy is before. Now let's once 
again retort how devoid of logic you are.

Nobody else on this net who would accuse the Armenians of massacring Turks in
1918...two years after the total annihilation of the Armenians in Turkey! The
claim of Armenians of Sivas (where they numbered 150,000-160,000) raising a 
guerrilla army of 140,000 couldn't have been posted by anybody else but you!
No sane mind could post things like Armenians killed every Turk in Van and 
areas between Trabzon and Erzincan/Erzurum! Yet the dedicated "everything for 
the fatherland" people think Mutlu is a great success.
  
>> believable story. It has been pointed out by "patriotic" Turks themselves 
>> that stuff like Mutlu horse manure does not go well out there. In order to 
>> have 


> THE ARMENIAN FOUNDATION PROVIDED 30 BILLION TL TO ASALA

>    01/09/92, MILLIYET-- The Armenian Foundation based in
> Istanbul is found to have provided 30 billion Turkish Lira ($6
> million) to the Armenian terrorist organization ASALA which have
> murdered several Turkish diplomats abroad... 

(The rest of Mutlu's repost of same old heap of horse manure duly erased)

As some of you will remember, a few months ago I had posted Turkish newspaper 
articles reporting that the Turkish Minister of State responsible for charity 
organization affairs dismissed the above sensational anti-Armenian newspiece. 
Then, I had protested the inclusion of this in the Turkish news "Haber" 
service running on s.c.t. Agreeing with me on the sensationalist nature of the
article, Mr. AToprak from "Haber" had kindly explained their policy. After 
that Mutlu fell silent on this for a while until I wrote again. It is 
unfortunate for the people at the Mutlu site(s) for they keep repeating the 
mistake of still having this piece of innuendo in their standard response to 
my writings.

Well, try it once again Mutlu, for the sake of the slogan "hersey vatan icin 
(everything for the fatherland)".
 
Now the rest of the stuff is directed to the rest of the "everything for the 
fatherland" crowd out there. I have said this before and will have to repeat 
myself in two sentences.

You people have been told (both in Turkish and English) on this net by other 
"patriotic" Turks about the continued perils to the Turkish case by having
Mutlu continue his irrational gibberish and badmouthing and, therefore, have 
been paying a heavy price for it. Let's see when you will smarten up and see 
the mess you have created by your attempt to counter others whatever the means
or the cost. 

Hirac Asodyan
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