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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft story "The Hound"  (spoilers)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 12:55:09 EDT

In article <1992Jul17.040111.23266@leela.cs.orst.edu> yousten@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Ken Yousten) writes:

>ae740@yfn.ysu.edu (Matthew Coda) writes:
>>For those of you who are not aware of this, Lovecraft was paid by the word for
>>nearly all of his stuff.  Consequently he "wrote by the word" and this can
>>(and in some cases did) result in excessive repitition, and general useless
>>excess in his stories.  It is really a shame that he was forced to write this
>>way, immagin what his stuff would have been like if he hadn't had to worry
>>about eating.
>
>I strongly doubt it.  Not that he was paid by the word (sometimes) but I don't
>think he would let monetary concers influence his style. 

	Lovecraft did not earn an income from writing. He made his
	money from editing, ghost writing and revision.  He also lived
	on what little money his family had.  For the most part, he
	did not write for money nor was he motivated by money --
	except for "Herbert West -- Re-Animator" which is
	understandably awful because of it.

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University -- Ninth Circle of Hell

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From: kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe)
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 01:41:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <3599@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>In article <92Jul23.024523.19111@acs.ucalgary.ca> kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe) writes:
>>Although I will eventually read these books, any
>>comments on the author?? 
>
>I think it's Robert McCammon(?) Are these titles novels or short stories? I
>know he has a few stories in edited anthologies. Let me know more?
>			Laurel

The books I listed, 1...stinger  2...swan song  3...the wolf hour
(?)  4...they thirst, are all novels.  From the few responses I
have received, they are all supposed to be good.  I look forward
to reading them.  By the way, just finished with King's
'Bauchmann Books', and really enjoyed the stories.  I thought
that 'rage' and 'the long walk' were the better of the four.  I
enjoyed the psychological interplay between the characters.  

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe)
Subject: Re: Best horror story
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 02:32:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
 

I just recently read a couple of his books.  I thought Weaveworld
was quite good, but I didn't think Cabal was too great.  I was
really looking forward to reading it after Weaveworld, and it was
kind of a let down.  The funny thing about that book, which
suprised me was that it was partly set in Calgary.  I haven't
given up on him yet, and plan to get a few more of his books.  Is
Body Politic a novel or short storie?? Wasn't there a movie
based on it??  Any other good stuff I should look out for by
him??  


Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle)
Subject: Re: Skipp and Spector...
Originator: gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:29:00 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


In article <1992Jul22.031619.27625@news.nd.edu>, wlamonac@beethoven.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
|> 
|> I'm glad to Skipp and Spector fans out there-  I have (I think) all of their
|> books- They are
|> 	DeadLines
|> 	The Scream
|> 	The Light at the End
|> 	The Bridge
|> 	(One more whose title escapes me)

It's The Cleanup.

|> 
|> The Bridge is their latest book- I got it last September, but only started 
|> reading it two days ago- it's interesting, but I think that The Scream is
|> their best overall.  As with a lot of splatterpunks- their books are hard to
|> find-  I haven't seen a copy of The Bridge in a while. 

Funny. I got mine at K-mart!

|> And- while you're at it, you may want to look for books or stories by
|> David Schow- he writes in the same vein as Skipp and Spector (In fact I
|> believe all three are friends, and may have collaborated on short stories
|> in the past).

Yes. The Kill Riff is pretty good.

- Greg
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:51:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <7169@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu> mikey.lo@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Mike Loux) writes:
>>>is definitely an all-time fave.  THEY THIRST is an excellent vampire novel.
>
>Forgive any errors, as this is my VERRRRRY FIRST post to UseNet news.
>Ain't that wild?

Welcome to alt.horror! What other authors do you like to read? 
				Laurel

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From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Favorite and Worst Horror Flicks
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:32:11 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <1992Jul23.161914.7781@nmsu.edu>, pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:
> In article <1992Jul22.144908.9590@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott Mash) writes:
> 
>    Ok, here are my favorite horror flicks....
> 
>    7. Arachnaphobia (I hate spiders, good for a jump or two)
> 
> I remember the scene in the old barn, the guy is slooooooooowly
> walking up the stairs, the music is creepy, he finds a SPIDER!  After
> I'd quit laughing, I commented to my wife that it takes a real
> directorial talent to make a scene like that have absolutely no
> impact.  She was still coming back down from the ceiling...
> Apparently one's reaction to Arachnophobia depends critically on one's
> fear of spiders...
> 
>    Now here is a list of Flicks I hated!
> 
>    8. Something Wicked This Way Comes (wake me up when its gone)
> 
> No, this was a great movie.  Did a wonderful job of getting inside a
> little kid's head, and seeing the world through his eyes.  I loved
> every minute of this one.

I gotta agree with Joe on "Something Wicked this Way Comes."  It was and is 
one of my very favorite books and I was surprised by how well Disney pulled 
it off.  Whoever directed it managed to come closer to setting the mood of 
the place better than I figured anyone would be able to do on the silver 
screen.  

Andrea @ BVC
> 
> Some truly awful movies?  I made the mistake of seeing ``Spellcaster''
> Monday... there was that one Darryl Hannah was in, ``The Final
> Terror'' I think?  ``The Outing.''  I'll get flayed for this, but I
> found ``Suspiria'' very dull...  Most of the really boring ones I
> don't even remember now.  I just shudder when I come across them at
> the video store.
> 
> -Joe.
> 
>
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Kings new alias?
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:18:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul26.031924.13176@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (K.M.Roberts) writes:
>
>	Which of McCammons book would you suggest anyways? Like I stated, I
>have only read Blue World and I think I might delve a bit further into this
>guy....

I am in the process of "delving further" into McCammon's work too! Everyone
has told me that "Boy's Life" is good, and have mentioned "Usher's Passing",
"Hungry Moon", "Mystery Walk", "Under the Fang", and some others I cannot
think of right now. Hope this gets you started!
			Laurel
P.S. McCammon's writing is a lot like King's! (Just a thought.)  

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

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                                                  there in the light---
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 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
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From: bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness)
Subject: Re: Robin Cook
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:59:02 CDT
Keywords: Coma, Godplayers, Mutation, Virus, Mortal Fear, Blindsight 

In article <1992Jul25.171655.235@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_mccullocca@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>
>Robin Cook books are thought-provoking and plots keep the reader interested in
>the subject(storyline)

Agreed. I've read them all, and they're for the most part gripping
thrillers that one is loath to put down for even a minute.

>
>No I have not read all her books because I read them in the library and do not
                        ^^^
>However I have problems getting invoved in the his books but once I am invoved
                                                ^^^

Misogyny? Sex change? Make up your mind, male or female  - I would venture
so boldly as to say that, based on the cover flap photos,
that Robin Cook is of the male persuasion, but I don't claim
to be an expert in such matters.

Robin Cook is at his best when his main characters are micro-
organisms, i.e. viruses, diseases, etc., as in the book where
a virus is imported from Africa and starts an epidemic, and
in the book where a doctor on the cutting edge of medicine
attempts to save his daughter from a virus. Also, he has a 
couple good books about recombinant genetics, where a scientist
creates a super-genius son, and where a scientist attempts to
lengthen the human lifespan.

Where Robin Cook is *not* at his best and starting to get
rather tedious, as in his latest, _Blindsight_, is when the
plot consists of an upwardly-mobile med student stumbling
upon sinister goings-on at Big City Hospital, with said
hero(ine) exposing the villain against all odds, and with many
a harrowing sequence. This is the winning formula that _Coma_
produced, but it's starting to wear thin.

Personally, I really like Robin Cook. He's a good SF/Horror
writer in the tradition of Michael Crichton, if that's what
grabs you.
 
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From: trs4742@sigma.tamu.edu (SEBESTA, TIMOTHY RICHARD)
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:32:00 GMT

In article <3924@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, damian+@pitt.edu (Liquid Cooled Spherical Imaging) writes...
>In article <92Jul23.024523.19111@acs.ucalgary.ca> kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe) writes:
>>
>>Went to a used book store on the weekend and picked up a few
>>Robert Macammond (sorry about the spelling....I know it doesn't
>>look right) books.  1...Stinger    2...Swan Song   3...They
>>Thirst   4...hmmm..forget the name, but its about some guy that
>>changes into a wolf during the war.  I haven't read any of his
>>stuff before.  Although I will eventually read these books, any
>>comments on the author?? 
> 
>Robert McCammon is fucking brilliant.  His stories are *GREAT*!  SWAN SONG
>is definitely an all-time fave.  THEY THIRST is an excellent vampire novel.
>WOLF'S HOUR is one of the best action/horror stories ever.  The reason his
>books are so good is because he has a FIRM grasp of "story".  He always
>draws me in.  IMHO, Robert McCammon is my favorite horror novelist.  You will
>not be disappointed.
> 
>Damian

I agree with you Damian, I've tried to get my friends who are King & Koontz fans
to read some of his stuff. It is incredible (my favorite is THEY THIRST)
All should pick up one of his novels and read it, you will not be let down.





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From: sherman@wizard.etsu.edu (Bob Sherman)
Subject: Re: Is Texas Chainsaw Massacre worth renting
Reply-To: frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier) 
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:24:47 GMT

You should absolutely rent part one. It is one of the best ever!!! 
Part 2 is funny and I liked it also.

Jeff Frazier
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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: Anyone but Stephen King
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1919]: sparta
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:54:54 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.025048.29107@news.nd.edu> wlamonac@purcell.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
>
>Anyway, some authors that I would like to see discussed are: Skipp and Spector
>(I noticed some discussion starting), David Schow, Richard Christian
>Matheson, Joe R. Lansdale, Dean Koontz and Ramsay Campbell.  Can we leave
>King alone for awhile and talk about other authors?

You go ahead and start a discussion about whoever you want, but those
of us who want to taslk about Stephen King are going to do so....  :)

Meow...
Grizabella
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From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:10:34 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester


Has anyone seen this silly thing yet?

I'm not sure when it comes out...

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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Help me, King buffs!
Keywords: Stephen King
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:31:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul20.183111.9426@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin Roberts) writes:
>Collections include: Night Shift,  Different Seasons,  Skeleton Crew,
>		     and Four Past Midnight
>
>Non-Fiction: Danse Macabre
>
>Screenplays: Creepshow,  Cat's Eye,  Silver Bullet,  Maximum Overdrive,
>	     Pet Semetary,  Golden Years,  Sleepwalkers
>
>Novels (incl. novels as Bachman): Carrie,  'Salems Lot,  The Shi9ning,
>	The Stand,  The Dead Zone,  Firestarter,  Cujo,  Christine,
>	Pet Semetary,  Cycle of the Werewolf,  It,  Eyes of the Dragon,
>	Misery,  The Tommyknockers,  The Dark Half,  Needful Things,
>	Rage,  The Long Walk,  Roadwork,  The Running Man, Thinner,
>	The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger,  The Dark Tower ][: The
>Drawing of the Three,  The Dark Tower ]I[: The Waste Lands,  Gerald's Game
>
Okay, this is exactly what I was going to do when I logged on today! This list
is exactly what is in the front of my copy of "Gerald's Game" (order changed
around a bit) which I finally got yesterday as a gift! My impressions will
follow at a later date. The four collections aren't all novel collections and
"The Bachman Books" are not included as one of the collection, but as four
separate novels. The direct answer to what "the book with the monkey on it" is
called is "Skeleton Crew". I couldn't remember the title yesterday either. I
had to look at the list of King's works in one of my books (it happened to be
"Gerald's Game"). As far as the 90 short stories go, I had no idea there were
so many and could someone please let me know if they hear about any even if
you think I already read them (unless they are in "Skeleton Crew" or "Night
Shift" both of which I read)? I have the book "I Shudder At Your Touch" but
haven't had the chance to read it yet, so maybe there is a different King
story in it ( I don't remember what the title of the story was from looking at
the table of contents when I first got the book). Anyway, this kinghead is
signing off of this subject. New message coming up!
			Laurel
 
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From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:33:58 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <7169@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu> mikey.lo@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Mike Loux) writes:
>>>is definitely an all-time fave.  THEY THIRST is an excellent vampire novel.
>>>WOLF'S HOUR is one of the best action/horror stories ever.  The reason his
>>>books are so good is because he has a FIRM grasp of "story".  He always
>>>draws me in.  IMHO, Robert McCammon is my favorite horror novelist.  You will
>>>not be disappointed.
>>> 
>>>Damian
>
>I will agree with you there.  I have only read a few stories by Robert 
>McCammon, among which include Mystery Walk, Stinger, Swan Song, and The Wolf's
>Hour, and all of them excellent.  I have one question to ask of you McCammon-
>ites:  Does anyone know if he plans to follow up The Wolf's Hour?  I know
>sequels are sometimes cheesy, but I have always wondered what happened to 
>Petyr.  And besides, Michael Gallatin hinted at the end that the wolf's 
>blood burned within him still.  Hmm.....
>
>Forgive any errors, as this is my VERRRRRY FIRST post to UseNet news.
>Ain't that wild?
>
>-The Silver Rainmaker

	Well... Welcome to alt.horror!  I have only read The Wolf's Hour, but
recently purchased Usher's Passing after the rave reviews he's been getting
lately.  I too thought that the end was ripe for a sequel.  In my opinion,
I think McCammon could pull it off.
	Tho I like both King and McCammon, I like them for different reasons.
McCammon doesn't waste paper telling us useless info (the main character's
favorite carbonated beverage, history of his sofa, etc.).  His writing often
reads like a good film.  I hope they never try to film any of his books.  I'm
sure they'll lose something somewhere.
	Anyway, is there a McCammon book out there that you all recommend I
DON'T read?

							Ray
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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Stephen King books, soundtrack & magazine WANTED!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:53:17 EDT

In article <1992Jul28.160550.24506@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>I want a hardback copy of Stephen King's second best novel called
>Christine. The book must be in good shape. Then, I want the CD or LP
>soundtrack of the very same movie, Christine. I mean the record with
>'real' music by various artists and not the music by John Carpenter.
>Then I want one thing more: The Magazine Of Fantasy & Science Fiction,
>Dec. 1990 (the special Stephen King issue). Then, maybe, my friend
>would like to have a copy of Firestarter in asbestos cover (26 copies
>made). 


	Boy, you must have millions of unwanted dollars to
	waste.  At least, you better have.

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University
From: enomura@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Stephen King uncollected short stories
Keywords: list
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:23:03 GMT


Here's a list of some (all?) of SK's uncollected short fiction.
There's some other stuff that hasn't been published like "An Evening
at God's" (some play he wrote) and "Squad D" for a still unpublished 
"The Last Dangerous Visions" ed. by Harlan Ellison.

Sometime later this year Cemetary Dance is to publish a new story
"Chattery Teeth."

ed


----



"Before the Play"  Whispers #17/18 Aug 82
"The Blue Air Compressor"  Onan Jan 71, Heavy Metal Jul 81
"The Cat From Hell"  The Year's Finest Fantasy ed. by Terry Carr
"The Crate"  Gallery Jul 79
"Crouch End"  New Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos ed. by Ramsey Campbell 80
"Dedication"  Night Visions: The Skin Trade ed. by Douglas Winter 88
"The Doctor's Case"  The New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes ed. by Martin Harry Greenburg and Carol-Lynn Rossel Waugh 87
"Dolan's Cadillac"  Castle Rock #2-5 85
"The End of the Whole Mess"  Omni Oct 86
"The Fifth Quarter"  Twilight Zone Feb 86
"The Glass Floor"  Startling Mystery Stories Fall 67
"In a Half World of Terror"  Stories of Suspense #2 66
"Home Delivery" Book of the Dead  ed. by John Skipp and Craig Spector 89
"It Grows on You"  Marshroots 75
"The Moving Finger" Fantasy and Science Fiction 12/90
"Man With a Belly"  Cavalier
"My Pretty Pony" 89
"The Night Flyer"  Prime Evil ed. by Douglas Winter 88
"The Night of the Tiger"  Fantasy and Science Fiction Feb 78
"Popsy"  Masques II ed. by J.N. Williamson 87
"Rainy Season"  Midnight Graffiti #3 Spring 89
"The Reploids"  Night Visions: The Skin Trade ed. by Douglas Winter 88 
"The Revelations of 'Becka Paulson"  Rolling Stone Jul 19/Aug 84
"Skybar"  The Do-It-Yourself-Bestseller ed. by Tom Silberkleit and Jerry Biederman 82
"Slade"  Maine Campus
"Sneakers"  Night Visions: The Skin Trade ed. by Douglas Winter 88 
"Suffer the Little Children"  Cavalier Feb 72
"The Weeds"  Cavalier May 76
"You Know They Got a Hell of a Band" Shock Rock ed. by Jeff Gelb 92


"The Crate" and "The Weeds" were collected in the comic adaptation of
"Creepshow"


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