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From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: Re: Thanks a pant's full, DoD...
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:04:05 GMT

In a previous article, megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net said:
:- In article <BtLxBB.CwH@wpi.WPI.EDU> mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
:- |	responses from the net... quite a few times i have asked
:- |	questions (pleaded for answers that would've saved my life ;)
:- |	and waited (and am still waiting) for answers! but then again,
:- |	the overwhelming response from the net at other times more than
:- |	made up for that!
:- 
:-   Concerning whether anyone responds to a post or not...
:- 
:-   I guess I'm going to have to point out some things that *should* be
:- painfully obvious to people who read/use ANY group in netnews.  I'll
:- start with the basics:

	while your post is very informative, i must reply to a few of
	your points, since you chose to use my post to illustrate your
	point. elsewhere in my article (not quoted by you) i mention
	that getting answers from the net is not a right, and that are
	quite a few circumstances which might prevent the person who
	might possess the answers, from reading your article.

	one thing that is however painfully obvious to me is that taken
	into consideration all the factors, there still remain (in my
	estimate) quite a few people who still might be able to answer
	that person. now whether they choose to or not is entirely their
	prerogative.


:- And, if it *does* get off your site, by some miracle of technology (and most

	exaggeration for effect?

	[a whole lot of other valid point deleted] but what is the
	relevance of all these points to my post? or are you responding
	to the post from Peter Simon? (i had already conceded most of
	the points you mention in my post).

:-   I.e. if you don't get a response, LIVE WITH IT and quit whining unless you
:- can make a good flame out of it.

	so if i choose not to use abusive language, make a general
	comment that tries to look at both sides of the issue and at
	least make an honest effort not to be facetious, i am whining???

	now of course you may not mean any of this stuff as response to
	me! in which case, at the risk of sounding presumptous, i would
	venture to suggest that you include or mention the relevant
	article you are responding to.

	happy riding,

	- ravi


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From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Newbie in need of help
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:38:18 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

in article <1992Aug26.191953.9456@samba.oit.unc.edu> 
David.Berger@bbs.oit.unc.edu (David Berger) writes

[actual text deleted - asks for help getting his Kawasaki 454LTD running 
again after the winter]

Hey help two of us at once!  I left my 454LTD for the winter without any 
prep a couple of years ago due to an industrial accident.  When I tried to 
get it going again this year (after charging the battery) it just ran like 
shit and eventually wouldn't even start.  It was suggested I need to clean 
the carbs.  Anything else anyone would suggest?  I bought the shop manual 
- is carb cleaning at all practical for a neophyte? (I never really did 
any car work but change plugs/oil, set timing, etc.).  I'd just roll the 
bike to a dealer and pay them to make it like new again, but I have this 
little voice in the back of my head that says I need to learn to work on 
my own bike...

Bill
---------------
wtr@mitre.org
** Opinions are mine only, and not my employer's **
From: chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman)
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:42:49 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa) writes:

>> The "prime" position is, not surprisingly, for feeding gas to dry carbs.

>Yep.


>>Both positions rely on engine
>>vacuum to open the valve, which is kind of annoying when you just need to flow
>>some gas into the carbs. 

>Nope. The "prime" position bypasses the vacuum switch so that you can
>get gas into dry carbs without running the engine.

There are, apparently, several versions of this puppy.  I swear to God
that the one on the '80 GS550E in the yard has two positions, ON and
RES, and they both rely on engine vacuum. I went out and _looked_ !
No PRIME. But, I remember that the GS650E I used to have did indeed
have the PRIME,  as well as ON and RES,  and that PRIME bypassed
the vacuum thingie and let fuel flow freely. 	
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: keithh@bnr.ca (Keith Hanlan)
Subject: Re: (Was) riding clothes choices (Summary wanted)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:29:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.215050.9701@tamsun.tamu.edu> peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:
>So,
>	What is the consensus on what to wear
>
>	1> In-city riding
Boots, Gloves, full-face helmet and AeroStitch

>	2> Long-distance riding
Boots, Gloves, full-face helmet and AeroStitch

>	3> Short and fast riding trips in no-man's land
Boots, Gloves, full-face helmet and AeroStitch


You see, the thing is, in-city driving is where the danger is and
hence where the protection is most necessary.  Long distance
riding typically involves some in-city driving.  Besides, you have
to plan for rain and cold.  And finally, riding fast is more
comfortable with protection on.

Keith Hanlan  KeithH@bnr.ca  Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada 613-765-4645
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HOV lanes
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:09:10 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>i've always wondered what "STOP" stood for.  can anyone tell me?
 
 Squeal Tire On Pavement !
From: cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:21:27 GMT
Organization: Sequoia Computer Systems

[general discussion about various reserve switch setups deleted]

Dumb question, but:

Although reserve switches are very simple, they have several problems
that accurate fuel gauges do a better job of addressing, IMHO:

1)	If you forget to switch back to "ON" at the gas station, you
	may run the tank dry.

2)	No good feedback on a particular trip about how fast gas is
	being consumed. A good fuel gauge, a tripometer, and some
	experience with the fuel gauge lets you predict with very
	good accuracy how much further you can traval before needing
	fuel.

3)	Having to switch from "ON" to "reserve" requires taking a
	hand off the handlebar while riding, not to mention the problem
	when you are forced to switch to reserve at high speed (you
	decelerate suddenly, creating a hazard to following vehicles).

4)	If the reserve amount is not enough to make it to a gas station,
	you end up trying to predict remaining fuel based on odometer.
	This is possible, not even that difficult, but to my way of
	thinking not as good as a gauge. (I used to have problems going
	home from college late at night. Most of the gas stations along
	my route were closed, and if I hit reserve at the wrong point,
	I might not have enough fuel to reach an open station).

A minimal motorcycle certainly doesn't require a fuel gauge, and a reserve
switch is a simple, inexpensive option, but for a nice road bike, why don't
they all just have accurate fuel gauges? I haven't used the "reserve"
setting on my ZX-10 yet, and I don't plan to, either.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:45:52 GMT

From article <1992Sep01.063622.27311@ecst.csuchico.edu>, by lrandall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Laura Randall):
> I can't believe it, but I *did* see it today: 
> 
> One soon to be skinless squid wearing a full face helmet, t-shirt, shorts,
                                                            ^^^^^^^
Your true squid disdains t-shirts, so this one was overdressed.
> and shower thongs.	

> Isn't the mandatory helmet law working great?

Just as well as they always do. Putting helmets on squids does not put brains
in their airy little heads.

> Laura Randall   
> DoD #0420
-Lawrence Smith, MSC Computing Staff - E-20 Clark Hall(next to the donut room)
 lawrence@msc.cornell.edu lawrence@crnlmsc2.bitnet 5-6064 [(607)255-6064]
-Cats, Coffee, Chocolate... Vices to live by. DoD# i
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Gas Leak - CB750
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:06:46 GMT


Bim:

>carb drain screws, and that's not the problem.  The gas is coming out as a 
>constant stream, it looks like from only one tube, but I can't tell where 

    Sounds like a stuck float, float valve, or a punctured
float in the carburator. This can be caused by exess fuel
pressure, but not likely on a gravity feed unless the tank
vent is clogged and the gas is expanding because of a temp
change.

	Ed Campbell
'57 FL (560,000 mi, 3 rebuilds)
'76 XLCH (136,000 mi, 1st rebuild comming up)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
	"The only substitute for cubic inches is more
	 cubic inches"
			Racer Brown ca. 1954
=====================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Road tip #3 (Spare key)
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:52:48 GMT

In article <30AUG199213151928@vax2.concordia.ca>, marct@vax2.concordia.ca (MARC A. TISSEUR) writes:
|> Spare key
|> 
|>      Consider taping a spare ignition key on a hidden part of your
|> frame or inside your fairing in case you lose your main key.

or if your a REAL BIKER you know how to hot wire your bike
in under 5 minutes because of the time you miss-installed
that extra outlet for (radar detector, vest, socks, or stereo)
and had to go figure out where the damn thing was shorting
one month later. and after following the piece of shit
manual to hell and back you find that you forgot to tighten
1 screw

laz
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:46:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Local Bike Service (Bay Area)
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / jbrown@longhorn.corp.sgi.com (Jeff Brown) /  8:45 am  Aug 28, 1992 /
I'm new to the Bay Area, and am looking for a good shop to take my bike to for routine maintenance (tune,carb sync,valves, etc.).  Can any one recommend a local, credible shop or independent mechanic? Thanks.

________________________________________________________________________________    
                                                                '87 VFR 700
----------
Check out topic 'ba.motorcycles' rather than 'rec.motorcycles' for some
information on shops in the Bay Area...

Graeme Harrison
DoD#0649
From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Winter Storage in Boston Area
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:00:23 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK


bob pasker writes:
>
>winter...winter...winter... sorta rings a bell, but i still can't 
>place it.  could you please define these technical terms when you
>use them in a post?
>

At a guess, winter for SF.CA is when it rains all day, there are blizzards
half-way between SF and LA (highway 101) etc. It is usually terminated by
that dragon fest (chinese new year) in SF.

an englishman, who sorta groks SF.CA winters (only been there in winter)!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From:  (Dean Cookson)
Subject: Re: MC Shipping
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:28:33 GMT

In article <1655@shaman.wv.tek.com>, davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H.
Wise) wrote:
> BTW, they _will_ ask you for your AMA number.
> 
They didn't.  They did ask me if I was in the AMA, but didn't ask for my
number.  The bike got picked up in Mass. Tuesday, and is supposed to be
here
next Wed. 9/2.  I'll post about what kind of condition the bike is in
when I get it.

Dean

> --
> --
> David Wise	davewi@orca.wv.tek.com
> DoD#427		1980 CX500C (Packy), 1976 Guzzi 850-T3
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: new bike .vs. vasectomy
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C38F5FF70B2631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 28 Aug 92 13:07:59 GMT
Organization: World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:14:02 GMT



On a local shock radio show here (DC101), a woman just called up and 
said she's really pissed because her husband just took the money he
was supposed to use for a vasectomy and bought a motorcycle!
Now THERE'S a guy who should get an honorary DoD#!
Maybe the bike is a better ride than his SO!!!!!!!


******************************************************
                                                     *
      -aki                                         *   A tank of gas, a
pair of
      DoD#0628                               *   gloves, a helmet on my
      ------------------------     *   head and a motor between
       Disclamer: Comments are my  *   my legs..folks, it don't git
       own..my employer doesn't        *   no bettern' this....
      understand them...                    *
******************************************************
From: steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: randy's deification!?
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:43:05 GMT
Reply-To: steve@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
]
]A bunch of us were, where were you? But it's strictly a (dis)honorable
]title since it was bestowed by a brown-nosing newbie with a write-only
]brain.

I have to admit that this has been a good week.  In the last 3 days
I've been able to spawn off 3 different threads from Swift's post.
While not as good as most of you, it is a personal best.  Hell, half
of my posts don't even get a glance so I feel pretty good today.
 
BTW, Bob was also besoted (I mean bestowed) with the title....

Steve
steve@zx11.cactus.org.
No I don't ride a zx11.
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:03:43 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:


>This is my biggest problem in riding really fast. There is no question that 
>when I look through the turn, keeping my head level, I can really lean to 
>the bike's capacity. The problem is, I keep looking down for gravel/oil/dead 
>possums/whatever. I just can't seem to judge the surface while looking 
>ahead, and when I look down, my line goes to hell.

I don't think there's an easy answer here.  You need to BOTH look ahead AND
be aware of small details of the road surface that aren't visible from a
distance.  I alternate my view between down the road and close up, being
carefull not to fixate on a close object.  If I can't seem to keep up with
the number of things to look at, then I know I'm going too fast!
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!!
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:28:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MSUS

In article <185nqgINN58@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green
- Pixel Cruncher) wrote:
> 
> In article CMM@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca, rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep3.050404.18943@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
> >>
> >>If "motorcycle" oils are such wonderful stuff, why don't the
> >>manufacturers require, or even suggest, that they be used?
> >


	Hey, doesn't Harley Davidson recommend _their_ brand Oil?
	But, they recommend their underwear, too.

 mad john 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Question from a "Newbie"
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:03:23 GMT

In article <ceay9cy00WBKA4jr5K@andrew.cmu.edu> ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:

Peter supplies this description of Ed Green:
>
>Notice the "former" in his sig.  He had his bike expropriated when it
>became clear that he was no longer holding up the standards of the net
>and the DoD.  Also, DoD numbers such as #0111 are "parking" numbers. 
>They are given to certain comatose people as a courtesy while they live
>out their twilight years in a rocking chair.
>

This is a disgusting, unwarranted, repulsive attack on poor, dear sweet
Ed.  Ed is kind and gentle and has done a marvelous job of supporting
the Dod as Kotwatchyamacallit.  He has worked hard on the lesser
coast version of the Great Pacific Northwest Dryside Gather, and freely
gives good advice to the infrequent newbie foolish enough to ask for it.

You should apologize! 

Of course, the fact that he doesn't have a motorcycle makes you wonder
if the cheese didn't slip off his cracker in the move out east.

Or maybe he just lost his balance.  Forgot how to counter steer.  

Whatever.

Ride Free,

Bill

________________________________________________________________
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu if you feel compelled to send email
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu if you seriously expect an answer
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002   SR= 2.125
FJ1200 R100GS/PD 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
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An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly understood.
An inconvenience is only an adventure wrongly considered.
                                               Chesterton
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: (Was) riding clothes choices (Summary
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:29:36 GMT

kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:

>         I have an '86 FJ1200.

>(the front is a Metzeler ME33 Lazer,110/80 18)
>(The Stock rear size is 150/80 16)

>4) Metzeler ME55A Metronic 150/80VB16 $143.99

Plenty of grip in spirited, but not peg-dragging cornering. The center
was gone at 7000 miles, with a lot left on the sides. Too many trips to
California & Colorado. :-) Since there doesn't seem to be any short way
to CA, I replaced it with an ME88 Marathon. There's about 4000 miles on
it now, and it's hardly worn. Again, plenty of grip in the corners, but
if you spend much time dragging your FJ's pegs, your friction may vary.

I've got an ME33 CompK Laser on the front, the standard compound doesn't
come in the right size, and even with the stickier compound, it looks
like I'll get about 13-14K out of it.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Winter Storage in Boston Area
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:06:47 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

The winter is fast approching , give or take a few months,
and I need to find a place to store my ST1100 during Dec,
Jan , Feb etc..

Anybody have any ideas???

I might be willing to pay a little money for a safe dry space
near Chelsea, MA

send email to daved@convex.com

thanks
Dave

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:04:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.191447.21323@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
	
	[stuff about bike size deleted]

>Obviously you're of the "here's the clutch, there's the brake"
>school of thought on how to get newbies involved in motorcycling.
>I'd rather that the people I teach or advise start a little
>easier but stay with the sport forever because they didn't get in over
>their heads and scare themselves.

	People who are scared don't belong on motorcycles... I think the
	"here's the clutch" method is good natural selection. Anybody can
	drive a cage, that's why they're all cagers. If you can't learn how
	to ride a bike on your own, get off it and buy a cage....

=Stanley, Idaho===============Sea-Bass Sears====================New York City=
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 _/\_>       Just ride!|             o /            ||~~~~~~\___       4Runner
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cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |Just  ~^~^~^ / ^~^~^  kayak!|  ()    () anything else!
     If everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane!! - Anon
==============================-->DoD #0516<--=================================
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: slappers
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:25:43 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

WRT tankslappers, my K, which is generally a very forgiving beastie developed
this nasty TS behaviour.  I finally traced it down to the fact that all the 
oil had leaked out of one of the forks because of a leaking fork oilseal.
Fork me!  I couldn't ride with one hand on the tiller, never mind none!  Shit
tyres and tyre condition and combinations have also made the K a little 
unstable at times.  BTW, I have just fitted an ME33/55 combination and can
report that all seems fine, ie I can corner at speed again after 7 months of
Dunlop radials which, although long lasting, reduced the bike handling to
somewhat akin to a Hardly.  :)


Nick (the tyred Biker)   DoD 1069   MAG 73516   GreenPeace member

M'Lud.
From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Painting My GoldWing
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:02:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


OK, my paint job on the GoldWing is completely shot. It was red and
the sun has bleached it to white.  No kidding.  

The painted sections on the Wing can be removed and there are five of
them: the wings around the fake gas tank, the top of the fake tank,
and the panels around the real tank under the seat.  

I did a little reading and don't feel up to giving them the full
treatment by renting a paint gun.  So I was looking for a reason why I
can't just use spray paint?  How bad could it look?  I could always
sand it if I didn't like it and turn it over to a professional.

Thoughts?  Opinions?

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com        DoD#1113
All music jars when the soul's out of tune.  --  Miguel de Cervantes