HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: 1926 Silver Conn Soprano Sax
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:10:35 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Posted for a friend - 

Local sax legend Smoky Joe Miller is selling a vintage Conn curved
soprano sax.  It's silver (brushed on the body but lacquered on the
keys), the inside of the bell is gold with lacquer, it has rolled tone
holes, and it's in great condition (he does repairs, and I think he's
just finishing overhauling it).  Sorry, but I don't know what price he's
asking.

His phone number (in Austin, TX) is (512) 835-9383
From: exubak@exu.ericsson.se (Becky Keifer)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: 135 gallon fishtank
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:17:18 GMT
Reply-To: exubak@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


,We have a 135 gallon fishtank set for an overflow filter (special order) with oak stand.  The tank has never been
used (except to hold my collection of coral).  The set doe not include a filter or lights - only the tank and stand.
The asking price is $900. 

Send E-mail 
or 
phone                            214/234-1903 (home - after 5:30 and weekends)
                                      214/997-0432 (work - days) 

Becky or Tim Keifer
From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:23:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Aug18.141110.25157@tamsun.tamu.edu> dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>>
>>Get real.  We are not dealing with a market economy here.  Just a 
>>greedy seller trying to pass off his goods at a high price to some
>>gullible buyer.  If somebody thinks that is incorrect or unfair, he
>>could and probably should speak out against it.
>
>We aren't dealing with a market economy here?!  Sheesh!  It sure isn't
>red China!

Do you know what a market economy is?  Have you heard of the terms
monopoly or oligopoly?  Do you understand the process of determination
of price in a market economy based on supply and demand?  What is 
informed buying?  Why are there consumer groups?  


>
>As for "gullible buyers", I think John Kane said he ultimately received
>$800 for his merchandise -- that's only 20% off from the original price.
>Not too bad in the world of Usenet haggling.
>
>And who determines what is "incorrect" or "unfair" in the world
>of prices?  You?  The net.secret.shopper?  The Clarinet price lists?
>Do you think Neiman Marcus or Saks Fifth Avenue is gouging people
>because they charge more than Wal-Mart?  Have you ever started
>a campaign to accuse the aforementioned stores of gouging?
>If you didn't, why not? 

There is a "fair" price for every article in a market economy.  This
"fair" price does not get "affixed" to the article overnight.  It
results from people interacting with one another - supply, demand etc.
Did you ever visit a festival?  Prices are known to everybody, there are
competing items and prices change every minute.  Fair pricing is an
ideal.  An ideal that is strived for every second.  Every person's voice
is part of the same game.  That's why, I think the person who mentioned
that better drives were available at a lower price should "Go Away" as
you said.

I never buy anything that is available at Wal-Mart at any other store.
I always have this to tell my friends, "When I buy at Wal-Mart, I feel
that I am paying the right price for it;  Wal-Mart's prices are lower
than the supposed sale prices of many other stores on most items".  My
friends have commented that I would make a good advertisement for Wal-Mart.
Now, surely they are more informed.  This should answer your last question.
Am I saying that the "other" stores are price-gougers?  Sure, I am.
Does this hurt them ?  Surely it will.  But, this is part of the market
forces !


>
>Daryl
>-- 
>Daryl Biberdorf  N5GJM    dlb5404@rigel.tamu.edu  or  dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu
>        "You're not messy.  You're organizationally impaired."
>                _Real_Life_Adventures_, July 3, 1992 

Cheers,

Suresh
From: aggedor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (The Monster of Peladon)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: MAC SE for *S*A*L*E*
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:17:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I'm posting this for a friend, so *please* don't email me, use the provided
telephone number.                                               Thanks

FOR SALE:

		Mac SE with 20 MB hard drive
		$800.00 + shipping
		Price *is* negotiable.

	If interested, call Mark at (512) 328-1895
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Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:57:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.141110.25157@tamsun.tamu.edu> dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>And who determines what is "incorrect" or "unfair" in the world
>of prices?  You?  The net.secret.shopper?  The Clarinet price lists?
>Do you think Neiman Marcus or Saks Fifth Avenue is gouging people
>because they charge more than Wal-Mart?  Have you ever started
>a campaign to accuse the aforementioned stores of gouging?

No, Walmart already does that. Or, if you want a less biased option, look
at Consumer Reports.

Not to mention:

	"We bought this brand name suit at Needless Markup for $1500.
	 The same suit at the Men's Warehouse was only $159.95!"
-- 
                                                                `-_-'
                         Have you hugged your wolf today?        'U`

Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX  +1 713 568 0480/1032
From: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se (Sherry HArris)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: SKI Boat ....
Keywords: SKI Boat for Sale
        	-----------------
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:09:58 GMT
Reply-To: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


	'87 17' VIP Vision 
	125hp Outboard Force motor
	Openbow with Ski Storage
	Blue and White with matching trailer
	
	Comes with:

	-  Many life jackets
	-  2 sets of ski's 
	-  1 O'brien slalom ski
	-  Ski Bisket
	-  Water Weenie
	-  Several Ropes
	-  Coast guard required equip.
	-  Bearing Buddy Maintenance Kit

	GREAT RUNABOUT - (38 - 42 mph)

	Boat is in excellent condition
	Only Asking $ 5,000
		
  	LAKE READY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 	
	The boat is located in Coppell approximately
	10 minutes northeast of the Dallas/Fort Worth
	Airport.

	Days (214) 997 - 0334
	Eve  (214) 393 - 5632


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Sherry Harris        		 Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
exuslh@exu.ericsson.se           Richardson, TX 75081
"These opinions are strictly my own"			 
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From: jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com (Jeff Enderwick)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:51:59 GMT
	<1992Aug17.144925.23226@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>
	<1992Aug17.222240.1619@seas.smu.edu>
	<1992Aug17.234911.7523@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com>
Organization: Motorola DSP Compilers

>If you feel the price is really gross, send private mail to the seller.
>Other than that, the seller has every right to ask whatever he wants for
>his merchandise.  If the buyer and the seller come to an agreement
>regarding what is a "fair" price, then they can deal, and everyone'll
>be happy.

No. If you feel that the "price is really gross", you can do pretty much
whatever the hell you want. This is USENET, not Daryl Biberdorf's private 
advertising medium. Sorry to be a jerk, but I really hate it when people
get flamed for trying to help others out.

	Jeff Enderwick
	jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com
Xref: sparky tx.forsale:187 austin.forsale:1647
From: ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ron Boerger)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale,austin.forsale
Subject: Round trip, SAT - SFO for sale
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:10:30 GMT
Reply-To: ron@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Ron Boerger)
Followup-To: tx.forsale
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX
Originator: ron@entropy


Round trip ticket on American Airlines for sale:  

     Leave San Antonio   ~7AM  Saturday, 5 September
     Return San Francisco ~8AM Saturday, 12 September

Asking $100 firm.  I'll take care of the boarding passes (must
be a male traveller).  Reply to this posting if interested.


-- 
Ron Boerger              Unix System Admin, Tandem Computers, Austin Texas USA
+1 (512) 244-8414        ron@mpd.tandem.com  -or-  cs.utexas.edu!halley!ron
From: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se (Sherry HArris)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: SKI Boat .......
Keywords: SKI Boat for Sale
        	-----------------
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:59:59 GMT
Reply-To: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


	'87 17' VIP Vision 
	125hp Outboard Force motor
	Openbow with Ski Storage
	Blue and White with matching trailer
	
	Comes with:

	-  Many life jackets
	-  2 sets of ski's 
	-  1 O'brien slalom ski
	-  Ski Bisket
	-  Water Weenie
	-  Several Ropes
	-  Coast guard required equip.
	-  Bearing Buddy Maintenance Kit

	GREAT RUNABOUT - (38 - 42 mph)

	Boat is in excellent condition
	Only Asking $ 5,000
		
  	LAKE READY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 	
	The boat is located in Coppell approximately
	10 minutes northeast of the Dallas/Fort Worth
	Airport.

	Days (214) 997 - 0334
	Eve  (214) 393 - 5632


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Sherry Harris        		 Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
exuslh@exu.ericsson.se           Richardson, TX 75081
"These opinions are strictly my own"			 
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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:24:26 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Aug18.083338.11505@tamsun.tamu.edu> peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.234911.7523@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>>>Frankly I'ed wish for a interactive forum for classifieds in the local news
>>>paper.  It would get rid of all those people trying to sell XT's for
>>>1000.00 dollars.
>>
>>If someone sells XTs for $1,000.00, and someone thinks that's a good deal,
>>why should you interfere?  Again, if the price is too high, the product 
>>won't sell.  Apple knows this.  Compaq knows this (a painful lesson, too).
>>IBM is learning this.  

>Get real.  We are not dealing with a market economy here.  Just a 
>greedy seller trying to pass off his goods at a high price to some
>gullible buyer.  If somebody thinks that is incorrect or unfair, he
>could and probably should speak out against it.

Quite correct.  One of the operative assumptions in free market theory
is 'perfect information'.  The information is a lot more perfect here,
because people speak out when they think a price is too high.  This is
a Good Thing.


-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
From: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se (Sherry HArris,xtr,0334)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: Car for Sale
Keywords: CAR FOR SALE
        	------------
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:07:04 GMT
Reply-To: exuslh@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


	'81 Subaru DL , 5 speed  
	Runs and Drives great... 140K
	New 50,000 mile tires , shocks. clutch, battery 
	New front axle boot and rear engine seal
	all receipt and warranty papers

	33 MPG....Very reliable car for only $1,200.00 OBO

	The car is located in Coppell about 10 minutes north
        of the DAllas/Fort Worth Airport.

	If interested call:

	Days (214) 997 - 0334
	Eve  (214) 393 - 5632	


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Sherry Harris        		 Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
exuslh@exu.ericsson.se           Richardson, TX 75081
"These opinions are strictly my own"			 
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From: kc034255@express.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Kyle Douglas Copps)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
Subject: TEST*TEST*TEST
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:49:36 GMT
Distribution: tx

This is only a test.
From: darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf)
Newsgroups: tamu.forsale,tx.forsale
Subject: Re: 2 - 230MB Drives for Sale
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:49:11 GMT
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.

In article <1992Aug17.222240.1619@seas.smu.edu> doug@seas.smu.edu (Doug Davis) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.144925.23226@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Daryl Biberdorf) writes:
>>Go away.  If you don't like the price, ignore it just like you would
>>a classified ad in a newspaper.  
>
>Uh, in case you haven't noticed, this is an interactive medium not "the classified"
>section of your local newspaper.  While a bit of caveateptor applies here it isn't
>unreasonable for someone to speak out when some price (like the above) is 
>far above market for a product.

[Please set your right margin to 75 chars.]
If you feel the price is really gross, send private mail to the seller.
Other than that, the seller has every right to ask whatever he wants for
his merchandise.  If the buyer and the seller come to an agreement
regarding what is a "fair" price, then they can deal, and everyone'll
be happy.

If all possible buyers think the price is too high, they'll either
counteroffer or look elsewhere.  Gotta love that free market!

>Frankly I'ed wish for a interactive forum for classifieds in the local news
>paper.  It would get rid of all those people trying to sell XT's for
>1000.00 dollars.

If someone sells XTs for $1,000.00, and someone thinks that's a good deal,
why should you interfere?  Again, if the price is too high, the product 
won't sell.  Apple knows this.  Compaq knows this (a painful lesson, too).
IBM is learning this.  

Also, in the case of the original seller, he was offering *RLL* drives.
Yes, the performance is not as high as that of newer SCSI and ESDI
drives.  But MFM/RLL drives are getting a little harder to find
these days, especially the 230 MB models.  Supposing a person already
has an RLL-based system and doesn't want to change, the original seller's
offer may be quite "reasonable" in the buyer's mind.  You don't
know every person's situation.

Daryl
--
Daryl Biberdorf                 |  Compaq Computer Corporation | standard
darylb@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com |  20555 SH 249  M/S 060701    | disclaimer
dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu         |  Houston, TX 77070           | applies
Xref: sparky tx.news.stats:145 austin.news.stats:63
From: john@waikato.ac.nz (John Houlker)
Newsgroups: nz.netstatus
Subject: Internet circuit outage 15 Aug
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:40:16 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

We have been advised by NZ Telecom that there is a planned outage
of 30 minutes duration scheduled on the New Zealand PACCOM circuit
to the FIX-WEST Internet gateway:

	Saturday, 15 August 1992 21:00 - 21:30 +1200

This outage is for the role change between the 177E and 180E
satellites (allowing for the satellite antennas to be moved
into line with the new satellites).

For any further information please contact noc@waikato.ac.nz.

John
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Usenet to Fax gateway
From: russell@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Russell Fulton)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:04:21 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:

> Greetings,
> 
> I would like some feedback on a little idea I have brewing here on
> status.gen.nz .

> I have installed a fax card on one of the backup machines here that
> polls status.gen.nz by sync connection each day to make a mirror of
> this system.

> I am will be able to except email to an user id of say 
> out@fax.status.gen.nz  which will send an ascii message to any
> phone number in the auckland free call area. 

This sounds like it could be a good idea, I have just one reservation
and that is that if T*L*C*M ever get to hear of it they will make you
pay a business rental for the phone and you will then have to pay
local call charges as well. :-( Mind you if that happened I guess
you then just work out how much the average message costs to fax
and add it to the email charge.

I will be interested to see how it goes.

Good Luck John!

Russell.
-- 
Russell Fulton, Computer Center, University of Auckland, New Zealand.
<rj_fulton@aukuni.ac.nz>
Xref: sparky nz.general:1006 soc.culture.new-zealand:2324
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general,soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Homeonwership
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 21:07:03 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

21:05:53
15-Aug-1992

From VOGON NEWS

                                Home Ownership

    In the 1992 Britannica World Data Annual's rankings of owner-occupied
    housing in developed nations, the US trails eight other countries.

            Country  Percent of homes   
                     owned by occupants 
                                        
            Taiwan       79.1           
            New Zealand  74.1           
            Greece       73.1           
            Israel       72.9           
            Australia    69.1           
            Ireland      67.9           
            Finland      67.7           
            Norway       66.6           
            U.S.         63.5           
            Canada       62.1      
         
    {Business Week, August 3, 1992}


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rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz (Grant Thoms (aka Zoltar))
Newsgroups: nz.general,Wanganui.forsale
Subject: Audio digitiser for Sale
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:28:35 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: --> Insert Witty Organisation Here <--


FOR SALE!
~~~~~~~~~

AMIGA Stereo Audio digitiser, in original packaging and with manual and
software. In excellent working order!!

ONLY $120.00  Less than half of what I paid for it!

software allows flipping of samples cut,paste,copy etc. real time echo
and time delay...

A bargain not to be missed!

Contact Grant on (06) 347-8531 (until sunday) or send email to..
zoltar@glasgow.amigans.gen.nz

Cheers,
Grant..
-- 
Grant Thoms (Zoltar - Silent Imperium)  91a Glasgow Street, Wanganui,N.Z
    ZOLTAR@GLASGOW.AMIGANS.GEN.NZ -  or  -  ZOLTAR@AMIGANS.GEN.NZ 
CALL "Silent Imperium" BBS +64(06)347-1763 -8pm-8am Mon-Fri-24hrs Sat-Sun
  //   "Silent Imperium"is a Amiga PD group and does only LEGAL stuff!!
\X/       DISCLAIMER: All thoughts expressed are my own, So there!!
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Usenet to Fax gateway
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:30:53 GMT
Organization: Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

G.Eustace@massey.ac.nz (Glen Eustace) writes:

> I have a vague recollection that provision of this kind of service is
> not permitted. By whom you may say, I can't recall.  The situation if
> I recall went something like this.
> 
> Because Faxes are based on telephone charges and we already have
> commercial telephone circuits between X and Y.  Using a private
> network between X and Y to bypass the commerical provider is a no no.
> 
> I recall Electrocorp getting into trouble allowing staff to use their
> private telephone network ( the one that uses the National Grid
> transmission lines as circuits ).
> 
> I am not sure of my facts here at all.  I would suggest that before
> anyone goes too far down this road that they check the rules and
> regulations etc.  This would apply to both Telecom's and NZREIN's
> regulations, charter etc.
> 
> -- 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Glen Eustace, Systems Software Manager | EMail: G.Eustace@massey.ac.nz
> Computing Services, Massey University, | Phone:         +64 6 350 5161
> Palmerston North,  New Zealand. GMT-12 | Fax:           +64 6 350 5607
> 

 
 With your comments in mind I wil put it on hold until I get an answer 
from telecom. Thanks for the warning.

 Jon Clarke               (Z*NET FNET now in FIDO)                HSBC NZM EBD
 GEnie: J.CLARKE6          FIDONET: 3/772:105      TheNets: jonc@status.gen.nz
 T h e    Z * N E T    G l o b a l   N e w s   G a t e w a y    i n    N Z L .
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Documentaries on TV @ 7:30am Fri TV1
From: hammett@sbsu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Tim Hammett)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:26:32 GMT
 <GNAT.92Aug18143511@kauri.kauri.vuw.ac.nz> <1992Aug18.085411.1283@acme.gen.nz>
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>I don't know if it's the one that you quoted, but I'd agree that it's an
>excellent series. It was actually the third of a trilogy of TV series' that
>James Burke made, another was Connections (also brilliant) and I can't
>remember the name of the other.

It was called "The Real Thing", & concentrated on the brain, perception,
& how they relate to perceived reality.

--
Tim Hammett, Botany Dept, Auckland University, New Zealand.
t.hammett@aukuni.ac.nz   Phone: +64-9-373-7599 x8365    FAX: +64-9-373-7416
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Usenet to Fax gateway
From: cctr127@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz (Jason Haar)
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:38:28 +1200
Reply-To: j.haar@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
:  Greetings,
:  
:  I am will be able to except email to an user id of say 
:  out@fax.status.gen.nz  which will send an ascii message to any
:  phone number in the auckland free call area. 
: 
:  Is there any call for this sort of service at all?  The only fee would 
:  be the email fee (USENET) associated with the fax to my site at this
:  stage.
: 

Yes, I think this is a great idea. 

Hopefully the day will come when all the main centres will have FAX-Email
gateways, and we'll be able to have reciprocal agreements with each other...

 --

Cheers

Jason Haar, Network Consultant
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Mac II cx for sale
From: prevmary@otago.ac.nz
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:26:32 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

I have a Mac II cx, 100MB hard disk, 8 MB RAM
plus apple 2-page mono monitor
plus extended keyboard and mouse 
FOR SALE for NZ$5,724.00.
Im selling this computer on behalf of my brother-in-law who has gone to the
USA. It is about 4 years old and has been very well loved and looked after.
I have had a market appraisal done to estimate its value.

ANy interest or queries Email me at this address

Mary Jane Sneyd