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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gunbuster,the schizophrenic anime
Date: 1 Oct 1992 08:24:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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In a previous article, upsiu@KING.MCS.DREXEL.EDU (Paul Siu) says:

>When one try to categorize Gunbuster, one becomes confused.  The entire series
>had a coherent plot, but the theme and setting of each story differs so much
>that one wonders what the author was trying to convey.

Thank you!  It is so good to know that I'm not the only one who thinks
this!  GunBuster is gorgeously drawn and well-directed, but I can't bring
myself to like it because of it's melodramatic and inconsistent plot.

>In story 1 [...] the whole show appears to be a satire on mechas.
>In story 2, Gunbuster turns into a hard-edge science fiction,

Exactly.  And I had a little trouble taking it seriously because of the
parody episode before it.  The first episode of a series is very important:
it sets the tone for the whole piece.  In GunBuster, though, it was as if
they had forgotten what the first episode was like.

>In story 3, Gunbuster becomes a drama.

A melodrama is more like it.  It was at this point that Noriko's constant
bawling was really beginning to get on my nerves.   I mean, the third
episode, and she still hadn't dried up?!

>Girl regain confidence at the last minute to save the remaining fleet from
>the space monsters.

At which point GunBuster shifts gears IN MID-EPISODE to become a campy
space-action piece!  The GunBuster is ridiculously huge, with silly weapons.
I mean, after all that time being dramatic, they close with that?

>In the final story, earth makes its last stand against the aliens.

In that black-and-white sequence that, although beautiful, seemed incredibly
out of place for a series that got campy and/or silly as often as GunBuster.

>All in all, I did like Gunbuster.  The art and animation are good.

I didn't.  Animation can't substitute for story for me, no matter how pretty
the characters designs are.

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From: megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Macross the Movie is NOT Robotech: The Movie
Date: 28 Sep 1992 06:17:38 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
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In article <Bv9JDo.AB7@CAM.ORG> emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend) writes:
>I can confirm it - there is NO Area 88 footage in Robotech: The Movie.  How
>do these rumors get started?

Oh, about 2 years ago when this thread came around someone who said they had
seen the movie said it was MZ23 with Southern Cross, and what they thought was
A88 footage. Someone else agreed and the rest of us sort of said, Yeah, uh-huh
Seems unlikely, but no one who claimed to have seen it really said it was 
wrong.

Thanks for putting it to rest.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:44:27 -0400 
From: Robert Everett Brunskill <rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Super Dimensional Century ORGUSS
	<1674@tnc.UUCP>

akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes) writes:
>In article <UelO5Sm00iUy81JI8W@andrew.cmu.edu>, Robert Everett
Brunskill <rb6t+
>@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> There is also one other transforming mech that I haven't seen
>> at all yet.
> 
>Well, there is the Naikick, which is flown by Athena (the green-haired
>woman in the opening animation), and also by the "mysterious officer"
>from the third episode.  The legs on this mech can fold up into a
>wing configuration, and it can also change into a humanoid form.

OK, that's the mech I was thinking of.

>I can puzzle thru my anime comics if this is real important to you...

That's Ok, you don't have to do that, only if you're REALLY bored.  By
the way, is there an english translation of the Orguss series to comics
(sounds like it)?  Is it still available?

>>     My only complaint is that they're doing 3 episodes per tape.  (I
>> heard that there's 32 episodes total, that's about 10 to 11 tapes!!)
 
>Well, it beats one ep per tape!

This is true.

Rob Brunskill
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Windaria
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:59:49 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Re: Streamline's release of Macek
 
 
KILL MACEK.  Windaria's my favorite piece of anime, and he butchered
it in a major way.  The plot was entirely ad-libbed (to the point of a
GI Joe episode), the character have been given stupid Western names
like "Princess Veronica", the footage was rearranged or eliminated,
and even the soundtrack was thoroughly screwed up.  On a scale of 1 to
10, I give Streamline's Windaria a -48715921871.  :D  I wouldn't hate
it so much if no one ever got to see it, but they have this
monstrosity at all the video stores in my city.
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Split R.A.A.?/mascot
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:25:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <9210051958.AA21738@tmcpcnet.tmc.edu> Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu writes:
>suggestion? Why not use one that really beyonds to the net, that was
>created for the net? One from a really good story? Yes, it's Lord Robin!

Who?

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From: akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes)
Subject: Re: Super Dimensional Century ORGUSS
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 20:14:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <UelO5Sm00iUy81JI8W@andrew.cmu.edu>, Robert Everett Brunskill <rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>     Now for my question:
>     Does anybody have any technical statistics on the mecha in Orguss? 
> The only Mecha I've recognised from my models so far was the Orguss
> (which hasn't made its appearance yet), and a model that resembles the
> gerwalk but is very different (the model looks like a scout or training
> version).  There is also one other transforming mech that I haven't seen
> at all yet.
> 
Well, there is the Naikick, which is flown by Athena (the green-haired
woman in the opening animation), and also by the "mysterious officer"
from the third episode.  The legs on this mech can fold up into a
wing configuration, and it can also change into a humanoid form.

There is the Orguss, and also a second mech in the same style (with
a different color scheme).  I don't know what it's name is, though.
I can puzzle thru my anime comics if this is real important to you...

>     My only complaint is that they're doing 3 episodes per tape.  (I
> heard that there's 32 episodes total, that's about 10 to 11 tapes!!)

Well, it beats one ep per tape!

Nobody has pointed out this bit of Orguss trivia:  The original
broadcast of the first episode had a different opening animation
sequence (consisting of stuff from the first episode).  My theory
is that they wanted the strange dimension stuff to be a suprise
for the audience.  

I also believe there is a nude woman, and some other interesting
thing that is displayed in one of the Chiram scanners during
one of the episodes, but I haven't gone over them recently.

-steve
From: destill@mtu.edu (Still)
Subject: Re: Robotech: The Movie
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:34:18 GMT

ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.001919.1309@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu>, ptsyck@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes:
>>>Actually...it is available on video tape....under the title "Clash of
>>>the Bionoids"  Sun Coast video has it for $14.95
>>>    -Archfiend
>> 
>> You got ripped off. I got "Clash of the Bionoids" at Sun Coast Video too for
>> $9.95. How long ago did you buy your copy?
>> 
>> Patrick
>
>I got mine at Kay-Bees for $6.95.  They weren't selling very well...
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	Anybody want to sell their copy?  Considering how BAD this movie
was, I'll offer $5.00 + shipping to anyone who wants to get rid of their
copy.
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From: lamont@cup.hp.com (LaMont Jones)
Subject: Re: It's not easy being the Anit-Christ
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:42:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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Mike M. Tatsugawa (shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU) wrote:
: In article <BvCoCr.DB9@cup.hp.com> lamont@sp1.cup.hp.com (LaMont Jones) writes:
: }Oh, I'd have moved them.  (Or actually had the right number of tables set
: }up in the first place...)  It was more the way he handled it.  Sort of a
: }"Yes, we asked you special to be here, but go sit at the kids table with
: }the AE92 staff that we gave tickets to because we couldn't sell them all"
: }type attitude came across.  I spent about 30 minutes convincing Lea that
: }she should go back and make the best of the situation.  But after Sunday
: }morning's repeat, it will take Ken some real work if they want her at AE93.
: 
: For a person who isn't getting this quote first hand, I liked how you
: posted this to the whole world.  I also like the fact that you helped
: to handle this problem and never said this quote to me until now.  Of
: course, if this is what she thought she heard, I would have handled the
: situation differently afterwards, but the shroud of secrecy that
: surrounds many of the complaints/rumors until they hit the net makes
: it very hard to learn from mistakes and improve relations for future 
: conventions.  I figure that as chairman and as the person who
: supposedly caused this situation, it would have been nice to be told
: what she said as opposed to being told that she felt likea second
: class guest.  BTW, I never said that, but coming several months after
: the convention, it would be difficult to prove, much like everything
: else that has come up on the net.

I don't doubt that you never said it.  The "quote" is a paraphrase of
something she said at the time in explaining why she felt she was being
treated like a second class guest, dirt, and a few other things.  Please
note that I was NOT quoting you or Lea, but rather paraphrasing Lea's
impression of your attitude, based on whatever it was that you said to her.
(Sorry for the confusing grammatical construct.)

I do think that Lea overreacted to the situation Saturday evening.  But
then, guests always overreact:  it's what makes guest relations so
"interesting".

My impression at the end of the banquet was that you felt the situation
had reviewed to your satisfaction, and that you understood why she had
felt the way she did.  Of course, the followup question of "Why does she
feel like a second class guest?" would have clarified that you wanted
more detail.

lamont
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: ANIME AMERICA
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:44:42 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1usiRB1w165w@clubzen.fidonet.org> fafhrd@clubzen.fidonet.org writes:
 >  
 > Cool.
 >  
 > Where do I sign? If I can be of any assistance, please do not hesitate to 
 > contact me.

AND THE ALL-TIME HYPOCRITE AWARD HAS HEREBY GONE TO MR. DAVID MEDINNUS,
for saying that he will not be involved in the running of any con
whatsoever (I have your msg on record) and doing a complete change of
his opinion the very same week.

I hate saying this, Dave, but you're a true, a true-blue a__h___. (Good
taste prevents me from writing it our fully. And I don't swear easily,
believe me.)

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Comments on USR stuff
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:18:36 GMT


Finally saw the USR dubs.  Some comments:

- Everyone in MACROSS II seemed to have a bad case of Kirkitis ("I can't...
  let you cover... this... story, Hibiki").  And the actors for the older
  characters sounded strained.

- ORGUSS was an improvement.  The voice acting here was acceptable, even
  if the ambience was all wrong.  Kei and partner are in a bike racing
  through some woods, and there's an echo all over the place that makes
  it sound like they're inside a bathroom!

  BTW, I fail to see what all the fuss over "chocolate parfait monster"
  is.  The voice on the radio was using confectionery terms as codes
  for the operation (spoon, oven, mold, etc.).  That the Chirom had a
  similar code (for example, Kei was "Peter Pan's shadow") was a nice
  touch.
  
- GUYVER was even better.  Here the voices didn't get in the way of
  what little story there is.

- I didn't care for any of the three shows, but that's the fault of the
  shows themselves, not the dubbing.

- The L.A. Heroes people are trying.  They really are.  One can only hope
  they'll get better as they keep trying.
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From: chet@whitebase.ukp.com (Chet Jasinski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Serious r.a.a mascot suggestion
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 13:10:22 EDT
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

> 
> I mean, heck, if GEnie can have their own, why not us?
> 
> And rec.arts.comics has an official mascot (Suicide Squid), and even
> has a T-shirt the readers wear at cons!  Why not us?
> 
     Hey Ryan, we JaMOians have a t-shirt too.  Didn't you see the Anime 
Goddess in full scared carp wielding mode? :-)  It isn't like there weren't 
a lot of us wearing this t-shirt in force on Saturday at Anime Expo <g>.

    ---Chet
From: rcfg@chem.ucsd.edu (Fahey group)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:30:58 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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In article <97385@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>Well, IMO, Jion went the way of all revolutionary/liberation movements -
>started out with noble ideas and quickly became corrupted. They are the cure
>that is worse than the disease. 

Yes, Jion did bad things but still they're not as bad as the Feds. At least
Jions do care about their people but Feddies don't. In ZZ, the Feddie officials
were happy that Neo-Jion is reducing the population of the Earth by dropping 
a colony. In Lightning Hathaway, they were making a law that that forbids
anyone but those approved by the Feds to live on Earth, so that ONLY they
can enjoy staying on Earth. What a government.

>Now, how do we know if Operation X does not put subliminal Jion propaganda
>into their subtitles? :-)

Well, the creators of 0083 already put subliminal Jion propagandas in
0083. :-) 


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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Polydor reeks was Re: What's the deal with BGC?
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:29:17 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Re: Polydor bashing
 
Polydor released Windaria.  Excellent film.  I think the quality of
the anime probably has more to do with the staff involved, rather than
the LD distributor.
 
  -Ralph Jenkins
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From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: That Madoka question
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:05:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

I didn't get anime-l for about four days, so appy polly logies if
someone already answered, but I was curious: does the name Madoka
Ayukawa mean anything special-like?

--Carl "And viddy films I would" Horn
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: MS Gundam Film #1
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:21:40 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <ei7oRB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:

+>as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick) writes:

+>- 
+>- Well, Henkin was in love with Emma, so I guess he couldn't help himself.
+>- :-)
+>- 

+>Ok, but to sacrifice a entire ship and crew!!! I just can't see any 
+>Captain doing that EVEN FOR LOVE!!! The ship is the Captain's FIRST 
+>priority (Never heard of this EVER happening in any way!)

	It is rather unrealistic in that no matter how unstable or
out of love the captain was thinking, it was the crew that was really
be sacrificed and I would expect that in such a situation that someone
in the crew would try to either relieve the captain or start refusing 
to obey orders.  I can't see all the junior officers and crew also 
being so in love with emma that they would throw their lives away too.

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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon background Music
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:54:51 GMT

In article <1aa603INNa3s@uwm.edu> xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet) writes:
>The first time I watched this show (the first couple of episodes) I
>was thinking to myself, no it can't be.  But in fact it is.  If you listen
>closely, and have a really young brother or sister, then you can
>probably make out the musical selection I'm referring to.  I just
>can't believe that they would put music from Sesame (sp?) Street, in a
>Japanese show.  I had to laugh the first time I realized what the
>music was.
>-- 
>		-Scott Violet (xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)

Well, I admit you've got me.  Which piece of music are you referring
to?

I'd be the first to admit that the music in "Sailor Moon" is not exactly
original...but SESAME STEET???  Hmmmm, makes you think, doesn't it... :-)

[NOTE: It's been *years* since I've last seen an episode of "Sesame Street",
       so maybe it's something more recent...]

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From: bs783@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Fubler Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: #1 ED: KOR: ED1 "Natsu no Mirage" translation/lyrics
Date: 30 Sep 1992 12:43:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Right..
I was thinking of ED2.  Gomen.

-Jay Harvey
Tri-A VP
Anime Hasshin member
(bs783@cleveland.freenet.edu)
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From: rcfg@chem.ucsd.edu (Fahey group)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 0083
Date: 2 Oct 1992 06:15:00 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
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In article <1992Oct2.054716.16594@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>In article <1aeas0INNe9t@network.ucsd.edu> rcfg@chem.ucsd.edu (Fahey group) writes:
>>Probably that's why most hard-core Gundam fans (including staffs of
>>0080 and 0083) are Jion fans.
>
>I'm an Anahiem Gals fan. ^_^

Time to organize an Anaheim Gals fan club? Maybe we can put some
original illustrations of Anaheim gals in the next issue of UC Herald. :)


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From: coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage)
Subject: Re: Angels in Paradise, Chapters 4 & 5, please
Organization: Shadow Walker's Anonymous
Reply|to: coram@ecn.purdue.edu (Chaosmage)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:44:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.113816.26227@jyu.fi> oik@jyu.fi (Otto Ilmari Kopra) writes:
>
>	Could someone mail me Angels in Paradise chapters 4 and 5, or
>point me to a FTP site from where they could be obatined? Thank You.

The entire story can now be found on Megazone's FTP site (thanks Zoner!) --
wpi.wpi.edu in the /anime/FanFiction subdir as dp.paradise.Z

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