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From: "dal" <p00056@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP - LIFE &DEATH
Organization: 1st Penn Pacific Life Ins.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:37:38 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

>DATE:   Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:46:49 GMT
>FROM:   Sam Hulick <shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu>
>
>My friend came back to town.. and she told me she's bulemic.  She'll eat 
>something, then throw it up later, and now it's gotten to the point where 
>blood is present.  HELP!  She's gone to a counselor, but it didn't help.  *I*
>have to help her, but how?  What can I possibly do/say to convince her & show
>her that she's destroying herself?  Respond via e-mail. (shulick@indiana.edu)
>
>Sam Hulick  ///  E-mail: shulick@indiana.edu (including NeXT mail)

Well, I've gone thru this trip with my X the doctors, family and friends
can help but its still up to the afflicted more or less... I'd call a doctor
for real advice thou... By the way, I know your hurting but its strange to
see this in alt.romance...

Dave
From: ss@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Scott Stuart)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:26:38 GMT
Reply-To: ss@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Scott Stuart)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <Bs2BMx.3uq@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@yankton.ucs.indiana.edu ("sam hulick") writes:
>
>No kidding.  What do you think happens during sex, anyway?  Blood transfers?
>AIDS is supposedly transferred through saliva.  One case was that a man with
>AIDS was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon for spitting at someone.


I don't know about the book that was being discussed, but the standard 
train of medical thought was that the AIDS virus could only live in a
very limited number of bodily fluids, blood, semen, pericardial fluid,
and (I think) cerebrospinal fluid.  Of course, it is the second fluid that
causes the problem in sexual encounters (or the first fluid).  I've seen
the results of numerous studies which show that the AIDS virus cannot
live in saliva.

scott
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Saturday, 25 Jul 1992 17:06:52 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: HF.JLN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Janet Newman)
Subject: Re: A question...
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:38:40 GMT

In article <pierre.711827535@manning>,
pierre@cs.UAlberta.CA (Pierre Honeyman) writes:
>
>        I have a quick question, last night at work, I was talking to
>a friend.  The subject came up about the fact that I was going out on
>Saturday.  Well she asked me if it was a date, and I honestly had to
>stop and think.  I am going out with a friend from work, and we have
>gone out before.  But before when we went out, it was after work and just
>as friends, this case was different, I called her at home and asked her
>if she wanted to go out (normally we just decide to go out after work
>which is fairly common where I work).
>
>So the question is:
>
>What exactly is a date anyways?
>I have some definitions but I am not sure how apt they are:
>
>1) It is a fruit.
>
>2) When two people go out with the purpose of seeing if they could be
>   romantically interested in each other.
>
>3) When two people go out who already are romantically interested in
>   each other.
>
>Others I don't know about.  My friend at work believes it's not a date
>unless you kiss after it, I don't buy that.  But that got me thinking, is
>it a date if only one of the people thinks it is?
>
>I would like it to be a date, but I don't know if the thought occurred
>to my friend.  Anyways, I'm going to ask her either when we go out or
>before hand, depending on when I call her next.
>
>        Pierre

Pierre:  My favorite definition of a date is:

A planned event where she showers (gets fixed up and stuff..) and
he pays.

Have fun on your "date"!  Janet
From: bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: WOW!  What a weekend.....  step #2 advice needed!
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:45:49 GMT
Reply-To: Brian.C.Kohn@att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Followup-To: alt.romance
Distribution: na
Organization: The Internet
To: daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

In article <1992Jul28.195347.20925@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb) writes:
>Well after finally spending my first weekend with my Long Distance SO.. all
>I have to say is , "WOW"!  It was the most intense, romantic, passonate,
>incredible time of my life.  ...   We got 
>along soooo great... everything was perfect!  I'm pretty certain in the way
>I feel now that we have a GREAT chance of continuing this relationship.

Whoa nellie.  Calm down.  Breathe in, breathe out.  It was one good
weekend.  One good weekend does not a relationship make.  Don't jinx
yourself.

[He's non-Jewish, and she'll be disowned if she goes out with a non-Jew]
>...   Her family is VERY important to her and I have a feeling she
>doesn't want to get into some major scene about everything.. but then again, I 
>believe that we have something VERY special that she doen't want to give up 
>either.  So now what?...
>I'd love to hear about concerns of a Jewish family.. what comes first, the
>happiness of their daughter or involvement with someone of the same faith?)

They're both important and I'd count on her family figuring she could
certainly have both at the same time.

The kind of family you describe is very familiar to me.  My RP was
engaged to a fellow from such a family.  *was* engaged...get the picture?
And my RP was willing to convert! and was in the process of doing so...

>I'd consider converting to Judiasm, but I havn't looked that seriously into it &
>she doesn't want me to do that for her.  I figure there's nothing I wouldn't do
>for her and more importantly for us.  

What are your religious beliefs?  Do you know if they're compatible
with Judaism?  If they are, it certainly is an option, and one that
will most probably satisfy her family.  (It is much more likely for a
Jewish family to accept a converted male into their family than a
converted female.  There's a technical reason that would take up more
space to explain than it is worth.)  Both my brother's wife and one of
my college friend's fiance converted.  They both seem very happy with
their decisions.  They're together with the one they love, and belong
to a religion that does not conflict with their own philosophical views.

-- 
Brian Charles Kohn             E-MAIL: att!hoqax!bicker  (bicker@hoqax.ATT.COM)
Poet of "Quality"
    'Hope, not fear, is the most positive advocate of action.' - S.R. Lawhead
                   Stamp Out "SO": "RP" = "Romantic Partner"
From: jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu (Jeff Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: re; romance = sex?
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:51:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

Thanks for all the input...I understand that I 
shouldn't listen or care what those around me
are telling me my sex life should be like..it
just amazes me that they would take it upon
themseleves to ask in the first place.

And I guess secondly..I like the way things are
going..there is enough uncertainity to drive
me crazy at times with worry..but all in all
I can't wait to see her again..It is always
easy to read things into email or worry about
a misunderstood phrase in a phone call.  SO
being away for 3 weeks is the hardest thing
I have had to do for years...I am always
wondering what she is doing..if she is thinking
of me or not..

I want more than anything in the world to be
with this person..but I am keeping these strong
feelings under control..I am afraid that if they
get out I will scare her away..It is truely
amazing how you can feel when you met the women
of your dreams..and you weren't even looking...

But maybe I obsess...I hope not this feels too
good to be something that won't last..    
 
SOrry to bore you all with this dribble..

Since I have been screwed over before...I am 
very leary of these feelings...I don't suppose
anyone know how to tell if your really in love?

Yeah I know stupid question.
 Jeff the bewildered
.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: jcr@mbunix.mitre.org (Rogers)
Subject: Re: How to ask someone out?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:08:07 GMT

Stefani the Archaeology Widow (ICSAA@ASUACAD.BITNET) writes:

> ...don't ask women out in bars or on the street.... You see,
> you haven't been "properly introduced." Now, what ... in this
> day and age, constitutes a proper introduction? ... The point
> is that asking someone out, IMHO, involves context.

Stefani, enjoyed your post. But something about it made me think....
(often a risky activity!) Does anyone remember an SF movie from around
'75 called _Logan's Run_ ? It featured an interesting social innovation
(for lack of a better phrase) called (I think) "the circuit." It was
like a home-shopping-club for sexual liasons. It worked like this:
you get home from work, you want some sex, so you don a very slinky
outfit, then step into this little booth that works like a matter-
transmitter. Meanwhile, other folks are sitting at home looking into
their booths, and turning dials, looking over all the folks like you
who have stepped into booths. One of these people eventually sees you,
decides he/she likes you, presses a button, and poof! There you are
in that person's booth, you step out, and have totally context-free,
absolutely no-strings sex. The ultimate commodification of sex. I
think it was the author's/director's jab at the sexual liberation
movement that was beginning to wind down at the time.

Anyway, it's a neat counterpoint to what you were saying, and makes
a point, I think, about what it really means to go into a bar and
expect to meet your future wife/husband inside.

Ciao --- Jeff R.

P.S. -- Hope the archaeological widowhood isn't too much of a downer.
Does he go on digs and do you ever go with him? I had my first visit
to that part of the country this past february (northwestern NM) and
I was absolutely enchanted. Wanted to make it to Chaco Canyon, but the
roads were too bad. Perhaps another time....
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: shulick@yankton.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: SH&LC: Totally f*cked up.
Originator: shulick@yankton
Reply-To: shulick@yankton.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:20:30 GMT


WELL.. how do you help a hurt person?  She's realy depressed, but it's not
because of me.  She only told me that she's sick of friends screwing her
over and stuff lke that.. I called her, but I didn't get to say a lot
before she said "I gotta go" and hung up.  How can I talk to her?  Do I just
wait for her to call..?  Or do I .. what??  What the hell am I supposed to
do?

-- 
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           E-mail: shulick@indiana.edu (NeXT mail, too)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tokorhon@messi.uku.fi (Tommi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Women have it easier meeting opposite sex(?)
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:26:26 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

Scene set up here:
>: >Well, hmmm ... let's see if it works.  Hey Teresa, wanna go out for dinner
>: >and a movie Friday night?
>: 
>: You bet!!!  :)
>: 
>: There, that didn't hurt much, did it??

>See how easy it is, guys?  :)
>Ed Carp, N7EKG		erc@apple.com	<-- preferred email address!

Set up! Set up! Arranged poof! :)
-- 

It's Tkorho above there, at tokorhon@messi.uku.fi
"The Black Crow of love"
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: polsak@nuscc.nus.sg (Suzaina Abdul Kadir (Ms))
Subject: Re: Going, going, ...
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:57:14 GMT



Actually that *is* a good point. :-)
Take away the imagination and soon....

In the past couple of years I've had some
strange reactions to my decision to be
ralatively *more* covered then prevailing
fashion. It seems to have quite a strange
effect on romantically-inclined guys. :-)

When I was *less* covered, all that really
happened was alot of oggling and the such.
But, then after the (experimantal) change,
I managed to get some guys positively curious
and therefore resoting to the use of the
imagination....so much more romantic, somehow. :-)

:-)

Suzaina
From: ghosty@terapin.com (Noah Hanna)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Need Romantic ASCII art
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:13:23 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <9207200426.AA03223@photon.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, See If I
Don't!  <dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>Hello,
>
>At one point I posted a message asking for romantic ascii art (especially 
>flowers), and someone was kind enough to send me a very large file of them. 
>Unfortunately, I've lost it :-(((((
>
>If anyone has a collection (or even a single) of pictures, could you please 
>e-mail them to me sometime? I would appreciate it very much!
Yeah, include me in on that too if anyone responds...
                                                                              
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+ \\/    \\  \\/ //\                   | \____/ |==//====Ghosty@======|     +
|     //\ \\ /  // /                   |/      \|======Terapin.coM====|     |
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+     \\  /  // /  // /\ \                     //              \  \         +
|      \\/  // /  // / \\ \                   //                \  \        |
+          // /  // /  // /                  //                  \  \       +
+             // / \\ \                    \\                     \  \     +
|              \\ \ // /    "Women, can't live with 'em  ___________________|
+               \\ \/ /         pass the beer-nuts"     / __     .  .      /\
|                \\  /             -Norm petersoon     / /_-host (/\)riter/ /
+                 \\/                                 /__________________/ /+
*=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=\__________________\/=*
oops, oh well...
From: rvn@icd.teradyne.com (Rafael Vidaillet)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Advice on Religion and Dating...
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:52:33 GMT
Reply-To: rvn@icd.teradyne.com
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA


	Hi everybody, this is my first post to this group, I have been
reading it for a while now and I thought it was time to share
a small something...

	About two weeks ago I went to a party with a very close friend of
mine, Liz.  The party was of a co-worker of hers.  Needless to say I did not
know anyone so I was looking around for who to talk to.   After a while
this couple walked in (at least they seemed like a couple).  I found 
the girl attractive but I thought that she was taken.  Anyways as the
night continued, I found myself joking around with Ann and Liz.  Ann's
friend was kind of shy but he was still around.  During the party I had
asked Liz to find out more info on her, she tried but was unsuccessful.
Anyways, Ann left the party before me...

	Now a couple of days ago, Liz finds out through some of her co-workers
that Ann was asking if Liz and I were going out or even married (we are
very close and people get this impression).  She was told that we were
just friends. So I told this person to get me her phone #. He did and 
said that she was very interested in seeing me, but that to tell me 
that she ONLY dates jewish men.  She said that whe would love to 
go out with me and be friends, but that was it...

	Now, from the impression I got from the people that were in the
party she was very interested in me, and I think the only reason she
seemed a little reserved in front of me is because Liz was around...

	Anyways, I don't know what to do.  I guess I'll go out with her 
a few times and try to become friends, nothing more.  But I can't
help but feel a little angry about the whole situation.  Maybe
I should not even try to go out with her since I don't want us to
find out we really like each other but not be able to do anything
about it...

	What do you people think?

_RV
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: PMS
From: cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Clare West)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:55:05 GMT
Organization: Dept of CompSci, U of Auckland

partee@iastate.edu (Jonathan F Partee) writes:
>                                                           I don't know
>about you, but if I overreact because I've had a bad day, I still want people
>to take me seriously.  Just because I'm overreacting, doesn't mean that 
>something's not wrong.  I WILL NOT BE TRIVIALIZED.  I WILL NOT BE TOLD THAT
>MY ANGER IS NOT *REALLY* WHAT I'M FEELING.  No one else should be either.  

hear hear,

clare

-- 
Oh, why didn't I listen when they said "Never do a   |  cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz 
 masters and try to have a life at the same time"?   |  clare west
                 BigSis to Chris, Eric and Kristiina
                    Official Welcomer of the RFA
From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Date: 27 Jul 1992 18:58:58 GMT
Organization: LBL
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.95
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

I heard an interesting talk show this morning concerning a new book
titled "What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS."  The author of
the book, Dr. Lorraine Day of UC San Francisco, offered her findings on
the air and fielded questions from listeners.  According to her, research
has shown that the AIDS virus is not a fragile virus and that it may
survive up to 7 days in a dry environment and up to 14 days in a moist
one.  It follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types
of bodily fluids and not just through blood.  She mentions other
interesting findings on AIDS which she says the government is
intentionally hiding from the public.  Her findings are all based on
clinincal documentation done around the world.  Her book may be ordered
by phone at (800) 537-2437.  I hope people who have heard anything about
Dr. Day or her book will post their thoughts to this newsgroup.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Weaver)
Subject: Re: Essence of Relationships
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:58:48 GMT

In article <83954@netnews.upenn.edu> rpatel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Rachana D Patel) writes:
>Hello.
>I was thinking about relationships in general and would like to hear some
>input from the rest of you. I am trying to figure out the true meaning
>or philosophical meaning of the need to have relationships. 
>Basically, I would like to undertand the difference between a relatioship
>and a strong/close friendship. 
>The first reasons that come to mind are:
>1) physical intimacy
>2) constant assurance that you will have a date
>3) the ability to show pictures and flaunt the other 
>4) doing romantic things 

I think the difference between a (SO) relationship and friendship is 
commitment. All the reasons for having a relationship you mentioned 
(except perhaps 'constant assurance that you will have a date' and
'a greater time commitment') are possible in a friendship. A friendship
is a one day at a time commitment. If your friend goes away, you might be
disappointed, but you would probably not feel betrayed. In a relationship,
you feel you have some sort of contract.

Every person has certain things (e.g. sex) that could be part of a
committed relationship, but not a friendship. These vary greatly
from person to person, so I don't think separate friendship from
relationship this way.

Actually, the following are all good friendship things:

>Mutual understanding? Being able to talk about anything on your mind?
>Being able to go to the person and feeling better? Having a good time
>and not getting into major disagreements?
>Accepting the other's faults in turn for the other qualities of the person?

Of course, a good relationship is a good friendship, plus something.

Many people put a burden on their SO/potential-SO because they see
these things as only appropriate in a committed relationship, and so
must depend on one person for all of these things.


Michael.

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: drburne@eos.ncsu.edu (DALE ROBERT BURNETT)
Subject: Re: Advice on Religion and Dating...
Originator: drburne@c00453-313mn.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: drburne@eos.ncsu.edu (DALE ROBERT BURNETT)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:51:21 GMT




>	Anyways, I don't know what to do.  I guess I'll go out with her 
>a few times and try to become friends, nothing more.  But I can't
>help but feel a little angry about the whole situation.  Maybe
>I should not even try to go out with her since I don't want us to
>find out we really like each other but not be able to do anything
>about it...
>
>	What do you people think?

go out with her.  whats the worst that can happen.  
then again you never know what good may happen if you dont go
out with her.
From: trevino@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Melissa Trevino)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Essence of Relationships
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:58:09 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Rachana,

	I somewhat disagree with some 
of the poster on this issue.  Not that I know a lot or anything, but 
well, you know.  Anyway, My two best friends are male.  One of them, I see 
fairly often and share a lot with him.  He is a really cool guy and
will make some woman very happy someday.  Just not me.  My other
best friend is my fiance.  I have told him everything there is to know 
about me, even the deepest darkest secrets.  He still loves me. :)
I guess a relationship has to have friendship as its basis to really work.
I mean, imagine, lets say you are married, and you have this idea you want
to bounce off of soemone, who do you go to?  A friend, a co-worker, your spouse?
In an ideal situation, you would go to your spouse, I would think.  
Anyway, it is soooooooooooooo much more than spending a lot of time with the
other person, or just having physical contact.  In the relationships that I see
work, including my own, both of the people involved are each others best
friends.  (Ok, I think I have killed that point...).  Another thing to 
consider is the idea of a partnership.  Both members of the relationship
should work together for one common goal.  This is not a goal you can just sit
down aone day at the kitchen table and write on a piece of paper, but more
of a life sharing thing.  I don't know.  by asking about the essence 
of relationships, you are basically asking about the secret of the universe.  
you will never find THE answer, but you maight find one you like.

Rambling finished for taday....

melissa

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: PMS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:39:47 GMT

tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:

: I'm blonde, fat, and a woman...

Teresa told me the same thing.  Yeah, *right*.  Fat, she ain't!  Gorgeous,
she *is*!
-- 
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