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From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Sven Hoek: what was censored
Followup-To: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Organization: Chicago IL
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:52:06 GMT

Here is the straight dope on the difference between the workprint and
aired versions of Sven Hoek:

First off, as Judex has pointed out several times, 'Sven Hoek' is in
fact a John K. episode, and he is Ren's voice. The new Ren voice is
debuted in the final 'until next week' bit. I'm not so sure I like
it myself... :-(

Second, as for what was cut. Therer are a couple of things.

First, the closet scene. There were orginally a couple of extra
lines after Stimpy closes the door (including the mentioned
'sword-swallower' line), which I think can be construed either
as suggestive of homosexuality, or rather nastily scatalogical.
Here's how the scene breaks down:

Sven:    Stimpy....I love this!
Stimpy:  I know.
         Hey! This is private!

 /cut to commercial in aired version, return at rainy-day/

listening behind the doors:

Sven:    What should we do now?
Stimpy:  I know. Let's play circus!
         Look at me. I am a juggler!
Sven:    And I am a bearded lady.
Stimpy:  And I'm a sword-swallower. <Aaaaaa-ulp..swallow> Oops.
 <giggle giggle giggle>

 /wipe to rainy-day/


Also the magic nose-goblins were shortened a bit near the beginning.
No big deal, we've seen the nose-goblins before anyway.

More importantly, one part of Ren's explosion at the end is cut:
in the workprint, after saying 'First, I'm gonna tear your lips
out, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do' he says:

'and then, I'm gonna g-gouge your eyes out. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna
do'.

I guess they didn't like the idea of some kid gouging his little brothers
eyes out and saying 'I'm just being like Ren.' Even without this, this
scene ranks up there with the best of R&S. I like the music they put
behind it too...

On the whole, I was pleasantly surprised that this episode aired pretty
much intact. I thought it might be much worse. I am worried about the
new Ren voice though. Ren's voice is so central to the success of R&S,
they're taking an awful chance in changing it.

__________________________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen         petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          jp@darkstar.com

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             More than just ashes when your dreams come true.





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             More than just ashes when your dreams come true.
From: app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: New adventures of Mighty Mouse
Keywords: on fox
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:10:36 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel) writes:

>All i know is the series got killed because Mighty Mouse got
>power from sniffing a flower, which as we all know is a direct
>reference to SNORTING COCAINE!!!!!!   AAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

	I know about the flower, but I thought the real reason the series
was cancelled was bad ratings.  When the show was good it was nothing that
a seven year old would have been interested in--too many adult references.
Sometimes it did seem to "talk down" to the level of the other Sat. morining
cartoons, in which case it was just another shitty cartoon.  What was even
worse were the 15 minute blocks of clips from the old Mighty Mouse cartoon
set to music.  They really made me angry.  Trying to watch NAMM was about
as frustrating as trying to watch R&S.  Some of the episodes were pure 
genius, but you had to wait a week to find out whether you were going
to see something good or some real crap.  And it was hard to remember to
watch something at 11 am on a Saturday.

>At least FOX doesn't care about the young lives that will be lost
>as a result of this evil plot, and now we can see the show.  

>Unless FOX is in cahoots with the Nick sensors.

  	Definitely not.  Fox has no scruples or taste.  Via "Married with
Children," they are probably the party we can thank the most for melting
away the bluenose code that American TV has been chained to for so long.

	Here's reeeeeeeealy hoping that this Mighty Mouse thing is somehow
connected to the Mighty Mouse of ~three years back.

-- 
 --  Tony Pulokas
     University of Illinois, Urbana/Champaign
     College of Engineering
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From: merlyn@digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)
Subject: Untamed World cropping?
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:37:18 GMT

I've seen plenty of discussions about various naughty bits being cut out
of R&S, but I haven't seen anyone mention this...

When R&S are stalking the yak, one particular shot is apparently zoomed in
to crop off the top of the picture; it's when the yak notices them and starts
running.  Anyone know why this was done, or know what it is we're not
supposed to see?

---
Merlyn LeRoy
From: brewer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (marmoset)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Professionally done tapes
Keywords: renting, buying, cherishing forever
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:19:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I lurk here with incredible consistancy and have done so since some time around
September when I got my net account ("My foist intangible possession!").  
During that time I have never seen word of Ren and Stimpy being released on 
video-cassette.

Sure, a passing notice here and there, but never the in-depth, detail filled,
excruciatingly well-researched material that I'm interested in (and which is
usually included in every other discussion on this group, including how many
seconds the camera remains on Stimpy's booger collection).

It seems to me that this would be the final solution to all of the hassles 
facing we fans.   They could be completely unedited, 4 episodes to a tape,
commercial free, Bullshitodeon-logo free, and of high quality resolution and
sound.  

Have any dates for release been proposed?  I've heard mumbles about a Christmas
introduction, but what do my friends know?

Sincerely,

the greatest mud-skipper of them all


--

marmoset
"green bottles!"
"BROWN BOTTLES!"
From: jagged@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Ren's Job
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:53:07 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Is it just me or does Ren's Job seem to be just a leetle to seerious
for his character. I mean, I liked him better as a shiftless bum who
had to scrounge around for food. Ren having a job is just too
domesticated. Anyone else have the same feelings???? How about you
Norman, you seem to share my opinion on most R&S things. 
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Latest Episode
Organization: none
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:06:05 GMT

In article <1dins0INNbjj@aludra.usc.edu> rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ronald Hogan) writes:
>this may have been mentioned already, in which case I'm sorry for repeating
>it and wasting bandwidth, but:
>
>Sven's first line: "You are Ollie, he is Sven."
>Never thought I'd see the day when R&S made an allusion to the Flintstones!
>That episode where Wilma rents the house to a Scandinavian rock band.
>
>Ron Hogan
>rhogan@usc.edu
>not whizzing on the electric fence
>

Unsure where this comes from, probably soem old comedian
, but this
joke predate the Flintstones. You can also find it in "Mighty Mouse-The
New Adventures", in the episode "Snow White and the Motor City Dwarves".
Sven, the worlds largest Norwegian dwarf, says it to Snow white.

					--Judex--
From: andy@eies2.njit.edu (Andy)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Are Ren and Stimpy Homosexuals (Who cares?)
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:26:42 GMT
Organization: NJIT - EIES2

>In <BxIvx9.HFw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:
>>I heard from a friend that they are gay.
>

The big question is:  ** WHO CARES?? **

This is 1992 folks!  Anyone who still has a problem with gay people is
obviously very uninformed and possibly considered prejudice!

So what if they're gay, bi or anything else?  We still love them!

Would you stop watching the show if they were gay?  Would you stop 
talking to your best friend if he/she came out to you as gay?

What's the big deal?
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From: tang@akofin.enet.dec.com (Gabe Tang)
Subject: Re: Sven Hoek - Ren going crazy
Organization: the vms company
Date:  9 NOV 92 12:59:41 EST


re: (Austin Luminais) .............
>Anyway, a friend of mine says that he heard the whole Ren-threat 
>monologue (from "Oh what I'm gunna do to you" up till right before "but 
>1st, I gotta take a whiz") in some movie.
>   That the whole thing was taken from a movie.  He didn't remember from 
>where though.  And when I thought about it, it DID seem a little 
>familiar.
>Anyone know anything about it?

	I too felt like this was a scene from some other movie. But, strange
	as it seems to me......I got some sort of impression it might have
	been something that Richard Widmark might have made. Don't ask me
	why..... I just had that feeling somehow. Much later on, I got
	a different feeling that even James Cagney could have said these
	lines.............am I going..................MAAAADDDDD??!!!!!
      	or just insane?

	As for the show in general.......while I thought it was okay....
	I still think the overall look and feel of the show is sub-par.
	especially those scenes of Stimpy and/or Sven making the long,
	drawn-out gestures of being brain-dead idiots or the giggling thing.
	Shades of Abner and Ewalt..........too much emphasis on trying to
	portray new and dumber facial gestures. Ren looked like the new
	2nd season Ren facial drawings ala Toothache......and the erect ears
	at the beginning of the show instead of the droopy ears of the 1st
	season. 


	All in all, no sir, I didn't really like it...........as much as
	the 1st season shows.

	btw, anyone think the voice of the devil sounded familiar like that
	of a 50-60's comedian that the radio still plays every now and then?
	you know.....like Dr. Demento's show would play? can't think of the
	name......would be fairly recognizable if mentioned, though.
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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: PTM and Sven Hork, What a Team
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:25:05 GMT

In article <92300.25223.L630391@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> L630391@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>Actually the nose goblins have already been shown, in one of the goodbye
>scenes. I even suspect it's the exact same artwork (the nose goblins look
>the same).

It did look like the same artwork (I've just seen the broadcast version of
Sven Hoek), and they pan across more than they do *now* in the ending, but
not as far as panned originally.

They did cut Sven's "This is the first time I've gotten a close look at them"
line (sorry -- probably not an exact quote).

>Ren getting angry is awesome! Maybe a bit heavy for kids... :-)

Well, they seem to have left most of that in.  Definitely *scary*!

>But you didn't mention one scene that would HAVE to go: the closet scene,
>when Stimpy closes the door ("this is private") and then we hear Stimpy and
>Sven playing 'circus'. Sven is the bearded lady, and Stimpy is--a
>swordswallower. 'Whoops... giggle giggle giggle'. Maybe I have a dirty mind
>but....

Damn!  They definitely cut that part out.  All we see is the door closed, and
then a cut to the next scene.  Sigh...

It's too bad Nick owns the rights to R&S -- that means we'll probably *never*
get to see the episodes as originally made without having insider access.  I'd
love to be able to buy an "Uncensored R&S" videotape...

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

	Every successful person has had failures, but repeated failure is
	no guarantee of success.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: Are Ren and Stimpy Homosexuals?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:29:43 GMT

brewer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (marmoset) writes:

>In article <BxIvx9.HFw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:
>>
>>I heard from a friend that they [ren and stimpy] are gay.  Of course I totally
>>disbelieved her.

><more difficult-to-believe-it-was-actually-posted crap deleted>


>Ren and Stimpy may or may not be gay.  They are definitely CARTOONS, however.
>WHO CARES?! Well, I guess you do.  I can't imagine the petrifying fear you 
>must have felt upon first suspecting that all this time you had been watching
>a cartoon filled with (AGGHHH!) HOMOS!!!  

  I was just wondering about the interview.  Someone posted that John K.
  purposely plays with the idea, because homosexuals out there believe that
  R&S are gay and many of US don't care.  I don't care, I was just wondering
  what John K. had to say in the interview.


>Actually, to take this seriously (eeeesh!), I think the characters' sexuality
>is left open for the sake of tension.  Ren's discomfort with moments like 
>mistakenly kissing Stimpy in his sleep, etc., are quite funny.  But, in any 
>case, I wouldn't get too upset.  Even if they are gay, I'm pretty sure you're
>safe, I mean, I don't think they'll come after you and pucker.

  I agree.  It's all entertainment and it's very funny.  I personally don't 
  give a shit what they are, for they are only cartoons.  Nice last sentence.
  If I could I would like to meet those two.

>How old are you, anyway?

  Why do you care?
  
  > 
>--

>marmoset
>"green bottles!"
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From: barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards)
Subject: Re: USA Today has good news and bad news
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:30:52 GMT


In article <1992Nov11.101128.717@eskimo.celestial.com> mage@eskimo.celestial.com (Joel Thornton) writes:
>Could anybody please fill me in on the USA Today article,
>it sounds from what is being said that John K is quitting
>SpumCo or something?? Noooooooooooooooooooo!

Quitting?  Spumco?  Man, you don't get much news up there, do you?

Nickelodeon fired John K and the entire staff of Spumco weeks ago.  Since
Nickelodeon (Prickelodeon, Naziodeon, Smegmalodeon, pick your favorite
derogatory name) owns the rights to the characters, they have put Bob Camp
in charge and have decided that they can continue on without John K or
Spumco.  (Well, not quite.  They have decided to open their own animation
studio and have extended offers of reemployment to all of Spumco's former
staff.  So far as I've heard, all except Bob Camp have refused to have
anything to do with the new studio, even at greatly increased salaries.)

The basic upshot is that John K has been fired from The Ren & Stimpy Show
and Spumco is no more.  However, John has other projects he wants to work
on, and it sounds as if many of the Spumco staff will follow him into
whatever venture he gets into next.  Let's hope so.

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From: blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: new products
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 10:44:47 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov11.013404.1048@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> novick@spot.Colorado.EDU (Andrew Novick) writes:
>If you do not approve of bootlegs, then do not buy them.
>These items are good quality.
>To you more open minded fans: don't feel bad about bootlegs, because
>John K. and SPUMCO have little say about the products and, ten
>middlemen later, they receive a pittance of royalties.

BOOTLEGGED ITEMS ARE ILLEGAL.
REN AND STIMPY ARE COPYRIGHTED CHARACTERS.
YOU ARE STEALING, ANDREW.

I know, that probably doesn't twinge your conscious, and its obvious you've
never been an artist, or known an artist who was ripped off by bootlegging
scum such as yourself.
Damn right I'm upset. The artist may end up with a small royalty from sales,
but you are greedy enough to even rip off that small portion from them, in
order to make a cheap buck.

Remember- somebody had to >WORK< to create those images you are stealing.
Give them their rightful due.

PROTECT THE ARTISTS RIGHT TO MAKE MONEY FROM THEIR CREATIONS-
DON'T BUY BOOTLEGS!!!!

r.
From: glenngl@curtiss.seas.ucla.edu (Glenn G. Lebumfacil)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Latest Episode
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:04:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

Speaking of Flintstone allusions, there's a scene where
Ren says to Stimpy, "Stimpy, you are one of the good ones."

I was watching the Flintstones just the other day and there
was this episode where Barney asks Fred to hold on to a
diamond ring that he bought for Betty. Fred agrees to it,
and Barney says, "Fred, you're one of the good ones."

Just passing it along,
Rich
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
From: jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel)
Subject: Re: Are Ren and Stimpy Homosexuals?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:54:45 GMT

My impression is that cartoon characters of this nature
are generally sexually ambiguous, or asexual.

How about Bugs Bunny in drag?  Yow, what a looker!

Jeff E.
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Ren's Job
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:22:32 GMT

In article <BxGwnI.JM0@rice.edu> () writes:
>It was Ren himself who said   "Work!  Have you lost your mind?!"
>(in The Boy Who Cried Rat, I believe)  Of course, the specifics of Ren's
>job were never discussed, so we can use our imaginations.....  Perhaps he
>has moved up in the ranks to a professional tramp.  At any rate, you can be
>sure Ren doesn't have a desk job!  Anyone with better ideas regarding Ren's
>occupation?

   Well, whatever Ren does as an occupation, he obviouslu doesn't like it.

   ..well back to my game of Misery Date...                K!z!K
From: bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Sven Hoek = God
Date: 9 Nov 1992 02:12:10 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., Chandler, Arizona
NNTP-Posting-Host: alfalfa.intel.com

In article <BxF3Lu.34L@rice.edu> () writes:
>I must disagree--why would Nick show this episode if they really disapprove
>of it?  They've had plenty of time to can it or slash it, and they didn't.

Schizophrenia.

Best part:  Sven squeezes the die into his nose, gets a
hard eight, miscounts it on the board, then pulls out the
die--with big boogers gooing all over them--and hands them
to Stimpy.

				--Blair
				  "Reliving my preadolescence,
				   and those of several others,
				   apparently..."
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From: rbutler@athens.cc.bellcore.com (butler,richard)
Subject: Help with sound..
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:28:04 GMT

	I am using a Sun workstation for the first time (a Sun IPC to be
specific) and I would really appreciate it if anyone could give me some
help in producing sounds from these machines.  Specifically:
	- what types of sound files can I use?
	- where can I get some of our favorite Sat. morning heros?
	    (the sites listed in the FAQ?)
	- how do I use these files on the Sun, or under Motif/X Windows?
	
Rich Butler
rbutler@athens.cc.bellcore.com
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From: me
Subject: Re: My favorite quote...
Organization: Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 18:41:43 GMT

"I am the keeper of the cheese....and you are the lemon merchant!"

Cheers,

-Jeff-

Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy,alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy
From: marco@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Giammarco)
Subject: Re: USA Today has good news and bad news
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 14:58:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.171450.19304@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> bturner@hpcvusc (Bill Turner) writes:
> (fors0037@student.tc.umn.edu) wrote:
>> Also, does anyone know if there is any significance to the part in "Rubber
>> Nipple Salesmen" when the walrus says "calllll the poliiiice!"  I seem to
>> recognize that from something.  Oh well.
>
>I just took it as a reference to Jefrey Dahmer.  Maybe I'm worng.

Actually, I thought it was a loose reference to _Silence of the Lambs_.
>




-- 
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marco@sdf.lonestar.org
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: R&S in Print?!
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 4 Nov 92 14:39:18 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

In article <1992Nov2.181432.16515@wdl.loral.com>, WALKERK@ssvax1.ssd.loral.com ('Kent Walker') writes:
> Don't know if this has been posted yet, but... it appears R&S have made it to
> the pages of technical literature.  Ed Krol's "The Whole Internet User's Guide
> & Catalog" (O'Riley & Assoc, Sept. '92) makes reference to them on pp. 256-7.

Where can us fans get a copy of it to read?

As a side note, I just bought "Ren And Stimpy Exposed!" from a local book
store.  It had several copies left!  (So the Candy Guru can come down here
to Fairfield, Ohio and go to Book World)  I have had the Comic book
and love it!  I can't wait!

BTW, my brother has ordered and is giving me "Film Threat!" for Christmas!
I hope I can wait that long!

I wonder what else will show up in Magazine Land About R&S.... 

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From: seed@joker.mil.ufl.edu (Steven Seed)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Stimpy and Sven Sitting in a Tree, K.I.S.S.I.N.G.
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:19:01 GMT
Organization: Machine Intelligence Lab, University of Florida

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Subject: Stimpy and Sven Sitting in a Tree, K.I.S.S.I.N.G.
Summary: 
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Keywords: 

    This weekend was the first time I saw the Sven Hoek episode. I don't know
if anyone else noticed, but Stimpy and Sven got pretty intimate in the litter
box. Another thing is that there was grafitti on the walls saying "Sven Loves
Stimpy" and a heart with "Stimpy + Sven" written in it. Are they trying to
tell us that Stimpy is a homosexual cat? Hmmmmmm. No sir, I don't like it.
I guess even animals have the freedom to sexual preference, but I'm not sure
how to feel about this.

  Another thing I notice this weekend was the terrible imitation of Ren's voice
at the close of the show. I don't know who this guy is, but its not John's 
voice. If they're not going to have John K. doing Ren's voice, then I'm not
going to watch anymore!

Steve