HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com>
Subject: photo cd routines now on
Reply-To: "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 26 Dec 92 07:57:18 EST

-> Loathe as I am to agree with him, and puzzled as I am
-> that he keeps slipping through my kill file, Mr. Barrett
-> is right for the second time in his life.

C= is going to come out with CD-Rom so the whole point is really moot.
Just because they weren't released before they were invented does not
mean that C= is in the wrong, just slow and hopefully the reorganization
of the engeneering department will have an effect on that.

Merry X-Mas
Grant
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dcr3567@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.C. Richardson)
Subject: Crippled 4000 (C= Help Me!!!)
Originator: dcr3567@ultb
Reply-To: dcr3567@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:33:33 GMT



Howdy Net_Folk (Once again);

   Been havin' a bit of trouble with the new 4000 in the stable....

The monitor is a bit mis-converged near the bottom (I expected that, it is a 
1960, ya know... :-( 

That's not too bad, I'll get it under Gold Service some day.  

The real problem is with the machine itself.  I brought it home the other
day to show it off.  We set it up in my friend's house, got it running, 
and within an hour, the mouse port died.  Strange, eh?  Spontaneously 
died.

So I get back last night, and give C= a call (GS), but was told to call
back today (Monday).  It seems that my account isn't activated with them
yet.. even though I've already received my paperwork.  

So the eveny lasted all today.. 5 or 6 calls, several holds, and 3 
"we'll get back to you later".

After a wasted day, I'm still on hold.  They had to call SMG to get some
info, but SMG's computers wen't down and then they closed for the day before
they returned C='s call.

This being my first encounter with the lovely Gold Service, I'm not all that
happy thusfar.  Does anyone know how crippled an Amiga is without a mouse??

---------------------------

So the problem is this:  3 weeks ago, I took my scsi tape back-up unit and
restored my data files.  Yes, I broke "The Seal".  I took my old C= scsi
card, placed it into my C= computer, and did a restore. I've had 5 Amigas
3 1000's, 1 2000, and my present 4000.  I run a lab full of pc's and pull 
boards all the time.  It had to be done, so I did it.

Now, when they get this thing, after all the paper settles, am I about to 
get the shaft because I used my computer for it's produced purpose!?!?!?

Had I known this, I'd have gotten a 1200.....

Disgruntled (at the moment) Customer,
Daniel Richardson

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eachus@oddjob.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Success! (was Re: Help needed recovering ASCII data from FAST RAM)
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:06:41 GMT


     I mangaged to solve my (daughter's) problem, but you wouldn't
believe how I did it given my job title.   I disconnected the hard
disk from the controller (causing a read error requestor to pop up)
and was able to save the files to the RAD: disk, reconnect the hard
disk and reboot.

     But I'm still looking for a better/upgraded version of
billsdisk.device.  (I figure what happened is that the driver was
waiting for the disk to respond, and either the disk had not recieved
the request, or the driver had missed the response.  On a clear disk
you can seek forever....)


--

					Robert I. Eachus

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: robart@agora.rain.com (Joe Bob)
Subject: Re: Need 15Khz monitor? HELP!!!!!
Organization: a gora
Distribution: world 
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:55:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.091128.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu> dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In a month or two I plan to get an a1200 or a4000. I know that VERY
>few non-commodore monitors support the 15Khz screen modes. 


  Actually, quite a few non-Commodore monitors do.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann)
Subject: Re: KingFisher -- unable to save index
Summary: Solution
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:52:38 GMT

In article <Bzpyp4.3x0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid) writes:
>I just downloaded version 1.11.  When I start it up, it tells me I need to
>build the index, which I do.  When I try to quit, though, it tells me
>"unable to save index".  What gives?

Edit the file KingFisher.config (most likely stored in S:) and locate the lines

	# Unsplittable datafiles (path plus filename)
	FishIndexFile=KF:Fish.Index
	NameIndexFile=
	              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Make sure that 'NameIndexFile' specifies a filename otherwise KingFisher
doesn't know where to save the name index: Model it after the previous line
('FishIndexFile=...'), which will differ from the above example, depending
on whether you use a floppy or hard disk setup.
	This is, by the way, mentioned in the documentation, although I
admit that it's probably a bit buried :(

 ._.  Udo Schuermann
 ( )  walrus@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: steve@digibd.com (Steve Wahl)
Subject: DPaintIII, Animation, and Amiga OS 2.0
Organization: DigiBoard Incorporated, Eden Prairie, MN
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:13:55 GMT

I am having problems with animations in Deluxe Paint III.  When I am
painting, everything is fine.  But when I play the animation (with the
'4', '5', or '6' keys) the pictures display lower on the screen, and
the bottom of the picture gets chopped off.  The anim player that
comes with DPaint has the same symptoms, but playing the animation
with SuperView does not show the problem.  I believe the problem
started when I upgraded to OS 2.04.

I was wondering if maybe I have something wierd in my preferences that
is causing this, but I couldn't seem to change anything and make a
difference.  Has anyone else seen this problem?  Is there a
work-around other than upgrading to DPaint IV?

--> Steve
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Digi International, Inc.
Eden Prairie, MN
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A1200 graphics/monitor questions
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 15:08:13 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

The 1200 seems the next logical step to make from my years as a 500 owner 
(always go for the cheap stuff... that way, when it's obsolete, you don't 
feel so bad). :-)

Anyway, could somebody please e-mail me info on how much I could get away 
with using my old 1084s?  I would like to get it as soon as possible, but 
I won't be able to pick up a multisync for a few months.  Thanks.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: 15 & 31 Khz monitors? Which ones???
From: dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:45:44 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

What monitors that are currently available scan from 15.xx-31.xx Khz?
I am going to get a 1200 or 4000 very soon, and want to get a good
monitor for it. I am looking at the NEC, Nano, and Viewsonic monitors,
but I don't know which ones support the 15.xx Khz modes. Any info or
list of compatable monitors would be greatly appreciated not only by
me, but others in similar situations.

Thanks in advance,

-- 
DSeaman@Oread.cc.ukans.edu
Derek Seaman
From: ldtaylor@tbag.tscs.com (Lance Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: TypeSMITH announcement
Date: 25 Dec 92 23:40:46 EST
Organization: Tampa Bay Amiga Group

On Fri 25-Dec-1992 11:33p, tim corcoran wrote:
tc> In article <ldtaylor.04p2@tbag.tscs.com> ldtaylor@tbag.tscs.com (Lance
tc> Taylor) writes:

tc> >         FCII is totally unexpandable and, in my opinion, is only good
tc> >         those who do little more than type in a few select fonts...
tc> > 


tc> Yeah exactly, how dare they produce a program that implements only 99% of 
tc> the requirements of only 99% of the market. 

 And how dare I get upset over something that no one in my department can
        use?  Think it through - there ACTUALLY exists some of us who type
        in Cyrilic, Arabic, Chinese, etc.; I study in the Modern Languages
        area, so I KNOW that tere exists others... what about German users,
        who DO have a couple of characters different than English?  Not to
        mention Final Copy II just totally avoids using the industry stan-
        dard, something that has plagued Amiga users since the first 1000
        rolled off the line...

tc> What nerve! 

What Nerve?  What nerve to institute a system that ignores a large market -
        those in foreign languages!  Although 168 people isn't a large market,
        that's how many people in my department have stopped using anf form
        of Final Copy II - we use Amigas for our typesetting and department
        exams...

tc> Don't they know that someone somewhere is going to need to use a Cyrillic
tc> font! 

 You are absolutely right - it is INCONCEIVABLE that someone might need some-
        tihng other than the limited fonts they produce... what was marketing
        THINKING?


tc> What a bunch of inconsiderate bozos!

tc> Jeez! lighten up buddy!

AS soon as SoftWood starts showing rational thought, I shall... until then,
        I will simply suggest everyone either use a good solid Amiga WP that
        can use outside, non-proprietary fonts (ProWrite is my favorite), or
        use an emulator and boot up MS Word or Wordperfect...

tc> ---
tc> [..!{uunet,qiclab,intelhf,bucket}!m2xenix!becca!corcoran!tim]

tc> -----------------------------------------------------------------

tc>            This isn't a job... It's an indenture!

tc> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:42:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.064025.18208@midway.uchicago.edu> sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> >Read-write mini-CDs hit the market this year. They're going to destroy
> >casettes.
> Well, yeah, since the price of the players is sooooo cheap :)

Not now, but in 3-5 years. The price of players will fall as production
ramps up, and they hold more data than tapes, are random access, sound
better, and are immune to wow.

> >Read-write full-size CDs will show up pretty soon. They will be compatible with
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> They do exist in labs in Chicago :)

And will be in stores by the end of the decade, I suspect. The technology is
basically worked out (it's just a larger version of the mini-CD, and those
are O($1000) or less) and releasing them is a matter of marketing.

> >read-only CDs (the players will play conventional CDs, but the read-write
> >CDs probably won't play in conventional players).
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> With the estimated cost of these things in the thousands,

Hundreds. Seriously... there's nothing in them that doesn't exist in current
systems. They could be available now at effectively the same cost as the
mini-CDs (the only extras they would need would be a larger physical disk
compartment and head mechanics... already available in $100 units. The
electronics are the same).

> the incompatibility
> of the recorded CD's,

The pre-recorded CDs would be exactly the same as they are now. It's only
the home-recorded CDs that would not play in existing CD players.

> and the price of the medium, don't you think that
> future is far off?

Hardly. It's all a matter of marketing decisions made in Japan. There are
no technical or price barriers to be overcome.

> For the masses, are they really going to here a difference
> between cheap DCC/MiniDiscs and expensive (not to mention huge)
> recordable 5.25" CD's?

DCC and DAT won't compete with Mini-CD. They have all the mechanical
disadvantages of tape, and no advantages over Mini-CD.

Audiophiles won't like Mini-CD since it compresses the data. After the
electronics have gotten cheap enough, it'll be time to start shipping
the writable CDs.

I suspect that players that can read/write Mini-CDs and play CDs (or CD
ROMS for the computer types) will probably come first.

> Well, then so is chemotherapy.  But it is the best we have at a price
> we can afford :(

Well, sure. For the next decade CD-ROM players are perfectly valid. I'm
just commenting on the folks who are saying they're "the wave of the future".
They're not... they're the wave of the present.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 03:39:23 GMT

In article <8839@orbit.cts.com> chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
> Good point, however, disk space concerns a good point for saving money on your
> OS purchase.  If we need 2 extra disks in the distribution just for help
> files, this will add cost, not just in media, but duplication costs as well.

Not a significant amount, I would think. Currently it's, what, 4 disks plus
4 for AmigaVision. That's pretty small compared to other systems.

> Ok, so have a simple online document that tells you the how, whatt, why and
> whens..

That's exactly what I thought I was asking for.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: Questions about the A1200 ...
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:54:40 GMT

In <1hjev2INNc4f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bu951@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian R. Beeler) writes:

>--------

>     I'll be buying a new  computer in ~2 months and have been looking
>at the A1200, but have  some questions (which I'm sure are in the FAQ,
>but I can't seem to find one):

>1. Software. What I'm looking for (I've omitted the software I need
>   and have found): 
>    A. Database applications. In example: Borland's Paradox SE
>       (a stripped down version of Paradox (or anything similar)).
>    B. Spreadsheet applications. In example: Lotus 1-2-3 personal 
>       (a stripped down version of 1-2-3 (again, anything similar)).
>    C. Math applications, like MatchCad, Maple or Derive.
>    D. Lisp programming apps, like Xlisp.
>    E. A decent C compiler.
>    F. Networking apps, like NSCA or KA9Q
>    G. Xwindows. Can I port my X apps? Any PD or shareware emulators?

 Simple, buy a MS-DOS clone, and all these programs are there for you to
use, at reasonable prices.

 The hardware description sounds like you want a DOS machine too.

>     I presently use [at  work] a 386 running MS-Windows (which, IMHO,
>is the most pathetic excuse for a "windowing" system I've ever used.).
>It crashes >3  times  a  week, can't download a file and run ANY other

 I never found the Amiga to be any more stable.  It is certainly more useful
as a multitasking machine than Mickeysoft Windows, however.

>     As for Macs,  I  like  them, but system 7.x is a little buggy and
>dollar-for-dollar the A1200 seems like the better deal.

 I'm starting to like Mac's.  I still don't like the restrictive OS, but
they do a much nicer job at packaging the machine than Commodore does.

>     Even if I can't get all the apps I want/need, I'll probably still 
>buy the A1200.

 Then buy the A1200.  It should be a fun little toy.

>PS: FYI: Microsoft came to my company two weeks ago and showed us 
>"Windows NT". It crashes ever better than MSWin 3.1.   

 Mickeysoft and Windows are not the only operating systems available
for PC clone machines.  Try a variant of Unix, perhaps even Linux.
Or OS/2, or...


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From: Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD
X-Sender: newtout 0.05 Dec 30 1992
Date: 02 Jan 93  04:18:04

> Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)
> From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
> Message-ID: <1993Jan1.011144.7213@pro-freedom.cts.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
>
> > Perhaps  they meant in terms of the cost of implementing the design and
> > the interface?   That  is,  it  wouldn't  cost  much more to implement a
> > CD-ROM interface than it would a floppy interface.
>
> I haven't got the faintest clue as to what this means.  Could you rethink
> it and resend.  Thanks.

I'll try:

It wouldn't cost much more to make a CD-ROM interface than it would to make
a  Floppy  disk  interface.  The *drives* may cost more for CD-ROM than for
Floppy  disk;  although  when buying them in large quantities the price may
come very close.

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From: Ivan_Pintori@mas.sublink.org (Ivan Pintori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Ethernet for Amigas?
Date: 26 Dec 92 00:45:03 GMT
Organization: Mangazone Advanced Services - ++39-6-7029438

In a message dated Mon 21 Dec 92  5:00, Easton@zds-Oem.zds.com (jeff Easton
wrote:

 EOE> In article <1992Dec9.231822.6240@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-
 EOE> freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:

 >> C= has TCP/IP software...
 >How about OXXI?  Aren't they into Amiga networking?
 EOE>   yup.  They sell the Novell Netware client for Amiga's.  Excellent
 EOE> program IMHO.

What can you tell me about it?  Do I need a Novell Server to use the ACS?

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From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AmigaDos 3 Manual?
Distribution: world
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:43:31 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

re article by Andy Garton <1ggehmINNibv@hpscit.sc.hp.com> was asking about
AmigaDOS 3 Manuals, as they don't come with 1200s in the UK -- well, guess
what, the same state of affairs is true in the US....  Two black eyes and a
migraine to Commodore, on this one.....  Commodore Express in the US is
clueless about the 1200, and AmigaDOS 3 and ARexx manuals as regards Amiga
1200s.   Commodore takes two steps forward and three backward -- new
product, clueless support.


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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Crunching is driving me MAD!
Date: 3 Jan 93 16:20:29 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <lkc590INNalb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> by cmcmanis@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis):

> To make this post slightly more reasonable, has anyone designed an IFF
> form for "compressed" files ? At least that way it should be possible
> to "unify" the cruncher mismash that there is today.

    A lot of the crunchers are written to pack demo programs, so they
    don't care about standard formats. In fact, they probable prefer
    to be non-standard to make it harder to rip stuff. The program
    Multi-Ripper 3.0 understands a wide variety of such formats.

    As far as data goes, XPK should be the standard. It doesn't use
    IFF structure, but that doesn't matter.

> --Chuck McManis			    Mr. NIS+			    Sunsoft
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From: Ray_Hines@dream.uucp (Ray Hines)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Date: 1 Jan 93 08:39:38 GMT
Organization: DreamStates BBS & CyberNet HQ in G'ville, FL   1-904-331-4317


 GGW> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>#4 You Amigans cannot run MSDOS at all, and threfore cannot run
>such incredible games such as Ultima Underworld and Falcon 3.0.  So there.

Ever heard of bridgeboards and other third party "bridgeboards" for the
Amiga that essentially turn them into IBM clones (God forbid!)?  486 boards
are now available for Amiga owners if theyt *really* have to run Ms-Dos.

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From: cg18ffl@icogsci1.ucsd.edu (Spumoni...)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 3000 Performance results
Date: 2 Jan 93 09:16:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Just A Short While Ago, I Wrote:

.2) Using the same setcpu command, you can turn on the instruction and data
.caches (and burst modes) of the 68030. Certain operations are thus speeded up
.by about 10%, but the caches can cause incompatibilities, especially with the
.module replaying routines used in many games. You'll know when they start
.missing notes to turn the caches off. Oh, the command for this would be
.'setcpu cache burst' (tack on #1 if desired)
  ^^^^^^

That should read 'CPU'. Duh. Time to go to bed...



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com>
Subject: photo cd routines now on
Reply-To: "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:27:02 EST

-> >   Now when is Commodore going to get off of its corporate duff and
-> start >supporting desktop Amigas with CD-ROM and Photo CD
-> technologies? >
-> >---
-> >| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
-> >--------------------------------------------------
->
-> When are you gonna keep CBM bashing in advocacy??

Another case for just ignoring him.  I was told directly at the WOC
Toronto that there are negotiations currently underway with Kodak for
Photo CD.  There is also work going on to get internal CD drives out.
Infact if MB knows anything about C=, he'll know that C= believes CD Rom
machines are the way of the future.

Regards
Grant
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