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From: RBSCOTT@CUTCV2.BITNET
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Subject: identity
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:03:00 GMT
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A key determining factor in analyzing whether bilingualism
or multilingualism is perceived in an individual's "heart
of hearts" as being positive or negative will of course
be the degree of personal choice exercised in the accumulation
of second and further languages.  My own experiences with
Spanish have been very pleasant and enriched my life manyfold.
Two of my children are fully tri-lingual, Spanish, English,
Japanese, and are now attending a Japanese school in a Spanish-
speaking country.  We'll see how they feel about these experiences
when they get older.  The

There are, though, radically different cases here in the U.S.A.,
where individuals have at times been required to essentially
renounce their home language/culture in favor of the mainstream
mode of communication and social interaction.  This has engenderedd
harsh or resignedd resentment among, for example, Native Americans
andd Latinos, not to mention the complex array of feelings among
African Americans whose ties to their original cultures/languages
have been severely twistedd and torn in the process of their
inclusion in American culture.  Learning the language of the
conqueror in order to work change within the system, and other
similar pursuits, surely entail real sacrifices.

I have not been in on this discussion of ethnic identity from
the start, so I might have misunderstood the topical territory
being mapped out.  If my remarks are relevant, however, I will
just add one more.  In the doctoral dissertation on cultural
anthropology by Carlos Castaneda (mid-60s), I believe I recall
a passage about certain ineffable or untranslatable aspects
of culture.

Hope this has not been too marginal a digression.

Robb Scott/ Teachers College Columbia University/ rbscott@cutcv2
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:34:00 EDT
From:         RBSCOTT@CUTCV2.BITNET
Subject:      mental lexicon

In considering the "mental lexicon", lets not
leave out the discourse level.  A good starting
point might be RELEVANCE by Sperber and Wilson,
1986, Harvard Univ. Press.

Robb Scott

rbscott@cutcv2
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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1992 12:39:00 +1300
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Subject:      no mail

set slart-l nomail
From: USERLGPC@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
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Subject: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:42:34 GMT
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 I gather I really fouled up and sent stuff to everyone
 intended not for everyone and anyways I wanted to send
 something out on a different net.

 Now how long have I been using computers?  10 years???

 Spass beiseite,  Larry

 selinker@um.cc.umich.edu
From: RBSCOTT@CUTCV2.BITNET
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Subject: storage and retrieval for communication purposes
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:44:00 GMT
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And what constitutes a direct connection?  It might
be fun to experiment with which words come most
quickly to mind when a person is faced with a
particular lexical item, though of course it would
be tough to control for prior experience, recent
events, general situation, visuals, etc... which
intuitively seem to participate in whatever "priming"
occurs.  For a city-slicker, "table" or "refrigerator"
might not only prime towards "milk" prior to "bull"
but also prior to "cow", or rather I should have
said "table" or "refrigerator" would prime for
"milk" faster than either "cow" or "bull" would.
In fact, I think that for me "peanut-butter and
jelly sandwich" primes for "milk" much faster than
does "cow" or "table" or even "refrigerator".  There
are sociolinguistic or social anthropological and
cross-cultural factors which impact on this question
of storage and retrieval.  The "direct connection"
can, I assert, only be shown clearly through an
inclusion of discourse level forms in the experimental
models.

In addition to Relevance, one might want to explore
Grice(75), Jacobson(early 60s), Hymes(mid-60s),
Austin, and the grand-daddy of philosophy of
language, Wittgenstein.  If you are looking for
empirical approaches, though, the discussion of
communication in the Sperber and Wilson text on
Relevance is very useful.  The other stuff is
foundational or background.

.... The meaning of a word is its context, or
how it is used....

Bye now.

Robb Scott/Teachers College Columbia University/ rbscott@cutcv2
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:41:43 -0600
From:         markee@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Re: electronic publishing of journals by Pergamon

Bob Yates asked in relation to my posting about electronic publishing:

>Numa, is this one of the distribution systems that Pergamon will explore?

My reply:

No, I don't believe so - according to the information I have, the
University of Colorado is not a participating member of the pilot
experiment.

______________________________
Numa Markee
University of Illinois
DEIL
3070 FLB
707 S. Mathews
Urbana, IL 61801
tel: (217) 333-1506 (secretaries)
     (217) 244 2736 (office and machine)
     (217) 244 3050 (fax)
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SET SLART-L REPRO
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:44:52 EST
From:         USERLGPC@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
Subject:      q about SLART-L

Fred, I sent out a message to the net yesterday and got this
in my box:

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 Your mail file (2535) was successfully DISTRIBUTEd to list SLART-L.

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Now Margaret says I may have gotten the wrong net, that D&D
was discussed on the TESL net.  Well, I have to fix that.

But what I don't understand is why I did not see MY message to
the net across my screen.  When you send a message to the net
does it go to everyone but the sender?  If so, then how do you
know what has been sent out, cuz I have seen cases where
electronic text has been lost?

If the net got a message from me, could you please forward
it to me.  Thanks, Larry

selinker@um.cc.umich.edu
From: adcohen@STAFF.TC.UMN.EDU
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Subject: Re: Mental Lexicon
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:27:38 GMT
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              "LCINKO%ARIZVMS.BITNET@KSUVM.KSU.EDU" at Nov 13, 92 8:41 pm

Thanks Lydie Meunier-Cinko for your info on mental lexicon.  Interesting!
I too have observed that little is said about the mental lexicon in L2
--mostly in L1.
--
DR. ANDREW D. COHEN
ESL, 126 Klaeber Ct, U of Minnesota, 320 16th Ave SE, Mpls, MN 55455
Tel: 612-624-3806/Fax: 612-625-2312/NEW e-mail: adcohen@staff.tc.umn.edu
From: MMCCASKEY@GUVAX.ACC.GEORGETOWN.EDU
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Subject: Call for Papers: East Asian Software Symposium
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:50:00 GMT
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    GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY EAST ASIAN SOFTWARE SYMPOSIUM 1993

                   FIRST CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS

     As part of the Georgetown University Round Table on Language
and Linguistics, there will be a day-long Presession on Tuesday,
March 9, 1993, devoted to software for East Asian Languages.  You
are invited to submit proposals for participation in the following
areas.

1    Demonstrations of East Asian Language software you have
developed or are currently developing.

2    Reports on new ways of using existing East Asian Language
software applications for special purposes, particularly for
teaching.

3    Papers on various aspects of East Asian Language software,
especially software that you may be planning to develop, are
developing but are not yet ready to demonstrate, or would like to
see developed.

4    Panels on particular problems or issues related to special
uses of existing East Asian Language software or development of new
software.

5    Interest groups with the focus on software in one particular
East Asian Language.

     We welcome participation by anyone working with any language
of Northeast or Southeast Asia.  Those working with languages of
Central or South Asia who also may be interested in participating
are also invited to apply.

     Proposals should be no longer than two pages.  They should
include the qualifications of the proposed presenter(s), the
special significance of the presentation in relation to the field
involved, and an outline or summary of the proposed presentation.
They should also indicate what equipment, if any, may be needed for
the presentation.
     Proposals should be submitted by January 31, but early
submission is encouraged.  Please send email submissions to
"MMCCASKEY@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu".  Surface mail submissions
should be sent to Michael McCaskey and Patricia O'Neill,
Coordinators, East Asian Software Symposium, Department of Chinese
and Japanese, Georgetown University, Washington, DC 20057-1042.
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 12:56:01 -0600
From:         markee@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      electronic publishing of journals by Pergamon

[from Numa Markee]

Since I am on the editorial board of a Pergamon journal, I received the
following information about an experiment initiated by Pergamon whose
purpose "is to explore an alternative electronic distribution system for
journal articles and to investigate its structural, technical, social, and
economic consequences for the research community". SLART readers might be
interested in this info as an indication of how publishing academic
articles may develop in the not so distant future. The initial experiment
is with journals in materials science and engineering, but if it works out,
presumably this experiment will eventually affect researchers in the
language-related sciences also.

In the extract that follows, I am quoting from the first part of a pamphlet
about the TULIP (The University Licensing Program) program. Further, more
detailed, info may be obtained from:

Karen Hunter
Elsevier Science Publishing Co
655 Sixth Ave
New York, NY 10010
Voice 212 633 3787
Fax 212 633 3764
email KHUNTER@PVCC.PRINCETON.EDU

Extract from pamphlet follows:

What are TULIP's objectives?

TULIP is a cooperative research project testing systems for networked
delivery and use of journals. The participants set three objectives at the
outset:

1) Technical. To determine the technical feasibility of networked
distribution to and across institutions with varying levels of
sophistication in their technical infrastructure. "Networked distribution"
means sending the information both across the national Internet and and
over campus networks to the desktop. Elsevier [part of a larger science
publishing group to which Pergamon belongs] will deliver the journal
information to participating universities in standard formats. The
universities will incorporate the information in local systems. A wide
variety of delivery alternatives, search and retrieval and print-on-demand
options will be compared.

2) Organizational and economic. To understand, through the implementation
of prototypes, alternative costing, pricing, subscription and market models
that may be viable in electronic distribution scenarios; comparing such
models with existing print-then-distribute models; and understanding the
role of campus organizational units under such scenarios. The overall goal
is to reduce the unit cost of information delivery and retrieval.

3) User behavior. To study reader usage patterns of journals under
different distribution (technical, orgnanizational and economic)
situations.




______________________________
Numa Markee
University of Illinois
DEIL
3070 FLB
707 S. Mathews
Urbana, IL 61801
tel: (217) 333-1506 (secretaries)
     (217) 244 2736 (office and machine)
     (217) 244 3050 (fax)
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              UIUC" <DAVIDSON@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
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From:         "Fred Davidson, DEIL, UIUC" <DAVIDSON@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Job Vacancy

[Forwarded on request of Prof. Pollitt.  Please respond as noted below
and not to me.  Thanks!  -F.Davidson]


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I would be grateful if readers would bring this announcement to the attention
of anyone who might be interested.

Many thanks,
Alastair Pollitt: abp12@phx.cam.ac.uk

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

V  A  C  A  N  C  Y


UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE
ENGLAND


Senior Research Associate in the Research Centre for
English and Applied Linguistics


Senior Research Associate to take up appointment from 1 October 1993
(or earlier). The person appointed will be expected to undertake
research in the evaluation of materials and methods in second/foreign
language teaching, and to teach in this area at postgraduate level.
Candidates should have relevant publications and lecturing
experience, preferably with a PhD. The post is offered for 3 years in
the first instance on a salary scale 16,432 - 23,739 pounds, under review.

Further information may be obtained from:
The Secretary, Research Centre for English and Applied Linguistics,
University of Cambridge, Keynes House, Trumpington Street,
CAMBRIDGE CB2 IQA,
Tel: (UK/0) - 223 332340,
FAX: (UK/0) - 223 330253,
or by e-mail enquiry to abp12@phx.cam.ac.uk

Closing date for applications is 15 December 1992.
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From: retala@jyu.fi (Reino Tapani Laulainen)
Subject: Is this a test?
Reply-To: retala@jyu.fi
Organization: University of Jyvskyl, Finland
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:24:20 GMT


 Well Well Well... 


      ...it is.


Keywords: 



The song: Dear God
The group: XTC
The album: Skylarking

Dear God (the lyrics):

Dear God, hope you got the letter and...
I pray you can make it better down here
I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer
But all the people that you made in your image
See them starving on their feet
'Cause they don't get enought to eat
>From God,
I can't believe in you

Dear God, sorry to disturb you but...
I feel that I should be heard loud and clear
We all need a big reduction in amount of tears
And all the people that you made in your image
See them fighting in the street
'Cause they can't make opinions meet
About God,
I can't believe in you

Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil, too?

Dear God, don't know if you've noticed but...
Your name is on a lot of quotes in this book
And us crazy humans wrote it you should take a look
And all the people that you made in your image
Still believing that junk is true
Well I know it ain't, and so do you, dear God
I can't believe in
I don't believe in
I won't believe in heaven and hell
No saints, no sinners, no devil as well
No pearly gates, no thorny crown
You're always letting us humans down
The wars you bring, the babes you drown
Those lost at sea and never found
And it's the same the whole world 'round
The hurt I see helps to compound
That Father, Son and Holy Ghost
Is just somebody's unholy hoax
And if you're up there you'd perceive
That my heart's here upon my sleeve
If there's one thing I don't believe in

It's you
Dear God

-----
Mark Schnitzius
schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
University of Central Florida



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From: retala@jyu.fi (Reino Tapani Laulainen)
Subject: Again_and_again
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Organization: University of Jyvskyl, Finland
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:34:38 GMT


tukki:/home/tukki/opis/retala% 
tukki:/home/tukki/opis/retala% 
tukki:/home/tukki/opis/retala% 
tukki:/home/tukki/opis/retala% 
tukki:/home/tukki/opis/retala% 
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From: jhalat@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (James Halat)
Subject: Test???
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Organization: First Boston Corporation
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:40:19 GMT


Test???

-- 
James Halat                         voice:  212-909-2703              
The First Boston Corporation       e-mail:  uunet!csfb1!jhalat        
New York City                                                         
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:42:40 -0500
From:         BXT3@PSUVM.BITNET
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The test was entitled "The Bustation exam in loving memory of Raj Chakarabati"
 40 questions short answer.  The G's said they should grade them, but I managed
 to find out the scorers and members of the team.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:58:20 EST
From:         Michael Sachs <V5289E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: SportPhysiology ???

On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:10:16 CST Bob Lowe said:
>No, but I'd sure like to start one!  I don't think my institution has the
>listserv capabilities as this question has come up at other institutions:
>How can I start a discussion list if my computer science department does not
>have listserv capabilities?  Anyway, I think it is a great idea and I'm look-
>ing into the possibility of becoming a "list owner".  Keep in touch.
>

     The first recommendation would be to have your computer center get
listserv capabilities. But that's too pat an answer. I seem to remember hearing
about someone linking up with another computer center (at another university)
which has such capabilities.  Perhaps you could hook up, via e-mail, to another
Arkansas university that has listserv capabilities and take it from there.
Let us know if that helps/works.

      Sincerely, Michael Sachs, List Coordinator


>
>Bob Lowe
>Human Performance Laboratory
>The University of Central Arkansas
>bobl@vm1.uca.edu
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:10:16 CST
From:         Bob Lowe <BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: SportPhysiology ???
              19 Nov 1992 07:23:11 -0700 from <PHYSIO@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>

No, but I'd sure like to start one!  I don't think my institution has the
listserv capabilities as this question has come up at other institutions:
How can I start a discussion list if my computer science department does not
have listserv capabilities?  Anyway, I think it is a great idea and I'm look-
ing into the possibility of becoming a "list owner".  Keep in touch.


Bob Lowe
Human Performance Laboratory
The University of Central Arkansas
bobl@vm1.uca.edu
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:10:47 EST
From:         Michael Sachs <V5289E@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Job Announcement

     From the 10/28 issue of The Chronicle of Higher Education (p. B11):

     Health, Movement Science & Recreation Dept. at Lynchburg College
(1501 Lakeside Drive, Lynchburg, VA 24501) seeks a colleague with an
undergraduate degree in Physical Education and a graduate degree (doctorate
preferred) in Sports Psychology.  The individual will teach Sports
Psychology, Exercise Concepts for Lifetime Fitness, and coach women's soccer
and tennis.  Lynchburg is a member of the Old Dominion Athletic Conference
and of Division III of the NCAA.  Contact Dr. Marie Lewis, Chair, Dept. of
Health, Movement Science, and Recreation to apply or for more info.

     Sincerely, Michael Sachs, Temple University, List Coordinator
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Subject:      SportPhysiology ???

Does anybody know if there are any list similar to sportpsy that are available
for sport physiologists?
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Please sign me up for sportpsy, Thanks.  David T. Martin - Univ. of Wyoming.
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From:         paul_dziewit.csd.navairtestcen%pcgate@NATC-FW.NAVY.MIL
Subject:      HELP WITH UNSUBSCRIBE

    Could someone please either unsubscribe me or tell me how to....


    Paul_Dziewit.csd.navairtestcen%pcgate@natc-fw.navy.mil
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:25:30 EST
From:         Richard W Wiggins <RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cornell Problem Tracking System

>>How good is it?

>Since I'm the author, I'll defer that answer to people who actual use
>the system.

Sounds like a cue!  We migrated from a home-brew Nomad database to
Problem this year.  Given trends towards 4GLs and away from custom
code on specific platforms, that seems like a contrary move.  But
it was a real winner for us.  I don't know whether it was the fault
of Nomad per se, or our code, but our old Problems database was
notoriously slow.  It took forever to pull up an old problem record.
A string search was much worse -- many minutes.  Generating a report
for your entire area?  Go to lunch.

By contrast, Problem is extremely fast for all of these functions.
A string search through the entire database completes in under a
minute.  The change in performance has made a big difference in how
we use the database.  People are much more diligent about closing
old problems.  Our Operations and network engineering groups have
moved from a paper-based network trouble ticket system to using
Problem as the original mode of entry.

The only shortcoming I'm aware of is the inability to specify
long Internet-style e-mail addresses in some places.  Perhaps
someone has modifed Problem to fix that shortcoming.

/Rich Wiggins, Computer Lab, Michigan State U
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:11:32 EDT
From:         Nancy Salyer <NHS100T@ODUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Cornell Problem System

Thanks to all of you who responded to my request for info on 'Problem'.
I will pass the info on to our 'Help Desk' group.  It sounds good...but of
course I'm partial to VM.  They are also looking at other platforms (mainly
PC based).  I will look at the Workshop info as time permits tho.  I may
find something else to make life simpler. Thanks
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