HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Date: 24 Dec 1992 03:55:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

I don't understand what the fuss is about.  It's obvious to anyone that the
Japanese are predominantly of East Asian descent, not Polynesian or 
Caucasian.  Japanese assert their difference from the Chinese because of the
difference in linguistics.  The written language is adopted from Chinese,
but the grammar & spoken language is completely dissimilar.  Japanese has a
range of classifications from Altaic to Malayo-Polynesian.  The world is
a mongrelized place, so chances are that various races mingled in the islands
and eventually blended to proto-Japanese.  Then in the Heian era proto-Japanese
adopted Chinese written language, introducing more vocabulary and a 
written language.  There is evidence that the phonemes of Japanese pronunciations
have changed considerably over time, with scientific proof that it did so
since the Heian era.  Therefore, it is just as likely that Japanese
pronunciatiosn were considerably Sinofied during the Heian era, from the 
previous Polynesian-like Ryukyuan language.  Since MacArthur's occupation,
considerable modifications have been made to the "standard" Tokyo Japanese
as taught in schools, summarily to make it easier for foreigners to learn.
Therefore, Japanese since 1945 has been effectively Westernized.  Language
is like a software program that is being updated all the time, until the 
far-previous versions are barely recognizable to the present version.
Japanese is a language with a particularly high reprogramming rate.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.japan
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Subject: Why Japanese are not white (Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:42:18 GMT

Another reason Japanese cannot be of western origin is that they have
admitted that they have totally different digestive system that does not
allow western cow meat to be digested as easily as Japanese cow meat, or
was it rice?  I do not remember.

Another reason they cannot be of western origin is that, according to one
public statement I heard, Japanese are deligent and productive.

Another reason is that Japanese peole are more suited for industrial
society.

My memory is fading. Feel free to fill in other relevant Japanese
government's public statements.

James choi
From: huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:01:19 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

In article <9301020026.AA24552@gandalf.gso.uri.edu_>, cayula@gandalf.gso.uri.edu (Jean-Francois Cayula) writes:
> |>      American have a treaty with Taiwan, and F-16 is out of date, but
> |>  how about the French, it recognize the PRC as the only Government of
> |>  China including Taiwan province, but it sells  most advanced weapons
> |>  to one of it's province, what's more, the weapons' only target is
> |>  the reat of the PRC.
> Let's put it this way, it's much closer to reality: the USA is a much
> bigger country than France. 

So far, China dare not really do anything against US, as well as Japan 
(Chinese fellows may recall Guang1 Hua2 Liao2 event, in which even Deng
had lost his face). I hope and believe China can have the power to respond 
them in 20 years in the way she treated France a couple of days ago. Of 
course, I do dream "afterward they live together happily forever", but it 
seems just like a dream in the world as it is.
From: f254@cs.utexas.edu (Fall Class Account)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted
Subject: Wanted: Chinese Word Processor Supporting HP LaserJet Printing
Date: 23 Dec 1992 12:29:12 -0600
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

I am looking for a free/shareware Chinese word-processor for IBM PC that
supports printing using HP LaserJet (series II). (or if there is one for
mac, that would do to.)
Could someone please tell me the name of such software?

p.s. I am sorry if this is in FAQ.
From: hxie@dps91a.cis.upenn.edu (Hong Liang Xie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Another situation puzzle
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:25:52 GMT

In article <Bzpvus.2FG@udecc.engr.udayton.edu>, jli@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Jinghong Li) writes:
|> >>***************************
|> >>A man is sitting in bed in a hotel room.  He makes a phone call,
|> >>saying nothing, and then goes to sleep. 
|> >>***************************
|> >As other netters have mentioned, there are too many possibilities here.
|> >One possibility is that he made a call to his office phone number to
|> >see if there were important messages. Apparently there were not, so he just
|> >went to sleep.
|> >Meng
|> 
|> He called his girlfriend to arrange the run-away, but the girl's mother
|> picked up the phone and yelled to tear him into peices ... He was 
|> surprised, scared, passed over.
|>  
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> - ........................................................................-
|> Politics is like coaching a football team.  you have to be smart enough
|> to understand the game but not smart enough to lose interest.


A lot of answers to this puzzle posted so far, very impressive.  
How about the following one?


He can't fall into sleep because of the sound of snoring from the
next door.  He gets the number from the room number, ring his neigbor, 
and go back to bed before his neigbor fall asleep again.


Enjoy it.

-Hongliang
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Looking for possible investment
Keywords: investment
Date: 26 Dec 92 14:27:32 GMT
Organization: JHO Company, Dallas, Texas USA

hu@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Min Hu) writes:

>HI, 
>Urgent investment around $3million (yes, that is the number) needed for 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>a very well located project in China. Interested people are welcomed to
>this acount or at followings:

>tel: (416) 928-1403
>fax: (416) 928-9319

>Any information related to possible investors are also welcomed. I will 
>direct you to Chinese part.

>Thanx

>HU MIN

I don't think there are many venture capitalists in this group but if
you cross-post your message to alt.suckers, you will get a better response.
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Subject: Re: Jiang Zeming's Funny Slogan.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:16:24 GMT

    In article <C0719G.39B@ulowell.ulowell.edu> (1 Jan 1993) Chunde Shi
writes,

> Please give evidence for it [Jiang Zeming once asked his son to stay in
> America].  It would not take a genius to fabricate, most often a fool
> most likely to advance those kinds of fabrications.

    After Deng Xiaoping's son gave him an American grandson and became the
vice-president of the Zhengda Group, with a Physics Ph.D., only a fool won't
figure out what those Gaogan's sons are doing.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: say@monashee.sfu.ca (Daniel Say)
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:29:20 GMT

  It will be the Federal Republic of China, parallell with the
Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
   Hong Kong and Guangzhou with Hunan, Fujian and Taiwan in a loose
association.  Zizang with Xinjiang and Nei Mongol in a loose association
with the Federation.  Dongbei, Beijing with Tianjin, Shanghai as the 
powerhouse economies.
   There was a conference, covered by the Economist, on the war and breakup
of China, in London in April 1992.
From: tchen@hoss.unl.edu (tianan chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Date: 3 Jan 1993 18:31:21 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu
Keywords: Qi Gong

     Frankly, I am really confused about Qi Gong. If Qi Gong masters can do 
     everything they want to do, why all of us, stupid guy, are still busy
     with something else. We should change our major to Qi Gong major. Ops,
     I forget something. May be it's too late for us to learn Qi Gong. I 
     heard that one should go to a very remote mountain, find a very strange
     master, start practice Qi Gong at his very young age. So, how about next
     generation? People should send all their children to The Qi Gong University
     of Remote Mountain at China. Then, hundreds or thousands of "A" students
     would become new Qi Gong master and control the nature.

     My former advisor at China is a professor and a director of a institute. He
     practice Qi Gong for years. He strongly believe some day he could see the 
     atoms and molecules in a flask by his naked eyes and control the chemical  
     reactions inside. This make me don't know whether to laugh or to cry, Ku(1)
     Xiao(4) Bu De.
     
     C
     I really hope someone can tell me the truth of Qi Gong.
     .ek

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Jiang Zeming's Funny Slogan.
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:05:39 GMT

In article <C06K6w.J39@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>Reading Editorial People's Daily on New Year give me some
>funny feeling. Obviously, the following underlined words
>were from Jiang Zeming sometimes ago. It recalls me that this
>man once asked his son to stay in America and not to return
*******************************************************
Please give evidence for it. It would not take a genieus to fabericate, most
often a fool most likely to advance those kinds of faberications.
>China when he was still in Shainghai.
>
>BTW, I am still in favor of the first part of the sentence.
>
>From CND News:
>
>"In 1993, China should give stress to both economic development and
>building of socialist culture and ethics, educate the people, especially
>the youth, in line with the Party's basic line (of) patriotism,
>  	   ----------------------------------------------------
>collectivism and socialism," the People's Daily editorial said.
>---------------------------
>
>
>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jcao@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Jingbin Cao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Ping-Pong player etc. Was: Joan chen on screen? Oh, no!
Date: 31 Dec 92 09:23:56 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <Bzpxtr.Dut@cs.psu.edu> echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
=>In article <Bzp1wG.Ept@cs.mcgill.ca> haiying@cs.mcgill.ca (Haiying ZHANG) writes:
=>>   There are many former table tennis wizards taking up positions abroad, 
=>>coaching other nations' sons and daughters to compete with the next 
=>>generation Chinese players, seriously undercuting the competitive edge of 
=>>the Chinese team.
=>
=>	This is a *very* good thing.  It is what sport is all about.
=>
=>	Remember how Chinese women's volleyball team became strong?  It
=>was largely due to a Japanese coach.  Why can't we Chinese help others
=>in the things we know better about?

Think of it this way: those who are coaching abroad are offering great
inspirations to young kids in China. Ten or twenty years from now, it
will be the young kids' turn to undercut China by coaching abroad. :-)

Jingbin
From: anon.121@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Culture or Politics?
Date: 24 Dec 1992 03:24:03 +1030
Organization: PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia) - Anonymous Service
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>Am I right, many people may not like what I said here.  But I would
>like everybody ask yourself, "Am I following the rules?".
>
>-- 
>Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated         mliu@pt.com
>315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620          uupsi!ptsys1!mliu

  Who paid you to study abroad? When you're spending China tax payer's
  money to ensure your future in Uncle Sam's home; when you produce faked
  certification to avoid the five-year service period in China; when you're
  pouring all the dirt on China to flatter your American savor; when you
  ask protection from Uncle Sam and begger for PR; you're following the rules -
  the rule that obeyed by homeless dogs, cats, and rats ... you're lucky
  that Uncle Sam likes to keep pets in his home. 

Anon.121@pax.tpa.com.au


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From: x0x6117@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: details of the Chinese Paintings I like to sell!
Date: 23 Dec 1992 17:50 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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Keywords: Chinese paintings; sale
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I got a lot of mails regarding my posting on the Chinese paintings I want to 
sell. I want to thank those who sent mail to me!

Since the posting was not specific about the paintings, It is necessary to post 
this mail for people who are interested in:
The paintings are mostly horses, the painter are regarded the only successful 
one after the master Mr. Xu. Those paintings have found their way to hotels and 
foreign tourist for their special art effects. The painter has published 
countless paintings on newspapaers and magazines (I have the copies), so I 
would say he is well known, but since he is in his late 40's, it is too early 
to say that he is known by everyone in a country like China. The paintings were 
mailed or brought to me, so they were not framed, they are, however, dry 
mounted. In other words, they are ready to be framed. The sizes vary from about 
40cm x 40cm to 60cm x 100cm. The prices are varying greatly. I would let some 
of them go at very low prices.

I have the xerox copy of the published paintings, if you are intersted, please 
contact me by e-mail. Thank you! have a good one!

Xu,
From: tang@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp (liyue tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 24 Dec 92 02:18:59 GMT
Organization: FUJITSU SOCIAL SCIENCE LABORATORY LIMITED, JAPAN.

another test, please ignore it !
From: pchan@acs.bu.edu (Patrick Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Problem . . .
Date: 24 Dec 92 23:53:05 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


In article <20176.2b33548f@ul.ie> leiy@ul.ie writes:
>In article <9212152200.AA16705@euler.Berkeley.EDU>, xiaohan@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Xiaohan Yun) writes:
>>  i heard this long time ago, after talked this puzzle to my
>> officemates during coffe break, their comment was ' uhmmm...
>> stooooooopid'; but we got a good laugh at it, so here we gooooo....
>> 
>> let's say, there is an intellegent cow who is facing west,
>> and here is an boring fellow counting number from 1 to 100;
>> when the cow hears a number it'll turn accordingly:
>> if the number is a multiple of 2 then the cow turns 90 degree clockwise;
>> if the number is a multiple of 3 then the cow turns 90 dreee counter-
>> clockwise;
>> if the number is a muliple of both 2 and 3, then the cow turns 180 degree;
>> all other numbers, the cow stands still.
>> 
>> the question is: after the fellow finishes counting from 1 to 100,
>> which direction is the cow's tail points at?
>> 
>> Xiaohan
>
>The cow's tail points at You, because... ... the cow won't like to turn around
>...
>I read it as a joke rather than a pazzle.

Hey, follow the rule of the question . . . heheheh, if a cow can
listen to a one counting numbers and know 2 and 3's multiples, I think
the cow can do all the things that you can't imagine . . . including
those right-angle turning, etc . . .


By the way, I think the cow's tail would probably pointing at the ground
 . . . I don't know why . . . I just tell my dog to turn when I count the
numbers . . . however, his tail is still pointing at the ground . . .
Is it similar? . . . Hehehheeh


Best wishes! - - - 
Patrick Chan





















Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang)
Subject: Re: World Journal
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:47:26 GMT

>In the late 70's the World Journal was based in Hong Kong and owned by HongKong
>finance group. The United Daily News of Taiwan took over and then the news 
>publication was reorgnized. Instead of reporting Hong Kong news only, the World
>Journal expanded to report: world news, Taiwan news, mainland news, Hong Kong
>news, and south east Asia Chinese community news. It has published over 40 some
>pages since then. In Chinese news publication, it is number one in the US 
>Chinese reader market.
>
>Though the owner is a KMT, the WJ apparently has no dedication to KMT. Though
>it is emphasized on Taiwan news, it is not a pro-KMT newspaper in general.
>
>Recently, the TIers in Taiwan accused that the United Daily and World Journal
>as a message passer of People's Daily. No matter what the accusation was, is
>there any basis to say so?  Isn't that funny to say so?  Or TIers just try
>to blacken everything that does not work in the same line as TIers want to be?
>
>If WJ is a pro-CCP newspaper, I would think that there is no newspaper in 
>Chinese community is a neutral one. What do you think?

I think WJ is very biased to KMT and even CCP. If you ever read the journal
articles in WJ, it is very easy to tell how serious the bias is. 
Especially on TI issue, WJ is 100% biased to KMT and CCP sides. This
newspaper even grant CCP the right to attack Taiwan if Taiwan ever goes to
TI. No country has the right to claim another country's property under
no circumstance. This WJ newspaper is stupid enough to give up their own
property to CCP when things favor to TI. Is this a fair newspaper ?

Yi-Chieh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (positron)
Subject: Re: Mongolia
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:18:15 GMT


I wonder if Beijing has any plans to "liberate"
outer Mongolia?  I think Mongolia should be recovered
before Beijing can even start to dream about "liberating"
Taiwan.

Also, from the historical perspective, an invasion of
Mongolia definitely justifiable because it could be
viewed as revenge for Ghengis Khan's invasion of China.

If you think about it carefully, China never did really
recover from the Mongolian invasion.  Before the Mongolian
invasion of China, China was always the premier civilization
in the world.  After the Mongolian invasion, the West overtook
China permanently as the premier civilization in the world.

In my opinion, the "real" China was permanently destroyed by
the Mongolian invasion and real Chinese history ended at that
point.  All of the notable dynasties that followed the Mongolian 
invasion were not real Chinese dynasties.  For example, most
historians don't consider the Manchus as being Chinese.

  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203)
Subject: Re: Two puzzles
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:40:47 GMT

In article <9211217249.AA72498@ccmail.uoregon.edu> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu (Tuya) writes:
>          If you can answer the first one in 10 senconds you are in
>          good shape.  If you can answer the second one in 1 hour you
>          are in better shape.
>

Are we going to go over all those old stuff? :-)
Two questions can be answered in 10 seconds .
1. 20 miles.
2. He ate the note he drew and let the people open the other one.
From: anon.121@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: We Taiwanese have won this general election..
Date: 24 Dec 1992 04:09:09 +1030
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u333057@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw writes:

>    We Taiwanese have told all over the world that we could have 
>good real democracy on our own.We have the newest congress,& we'll 
>chose our own president by our own.

     What is "Taiwanese"?  They declared Independence? Not yet?
     Does this guy know what he is talking about? He's got drunk?

     If you're not in good mood, try to work on a girl.



 


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From: math1pu@elroy.uh.edu (Luo, Youngping)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: old man cross river
Date: 31 Dec 1992 15:44 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <0096588B.758446E0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes...
>In article <009657A3.B52FE8A0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>>an old man in his 70s crossed a river without bridge.  the river is wide and
>>deep. he wears a long scarf. there is a tree at the other side of river.
>>how come?
>>W.Huang

The river must be icy!

Here is one for you:

With one single match you walk into a dark room in which you are told there is
a candle, a fireplace, a lantern, and the oven.  Which do you light first?

Can you find anything such that the longer it leaks, the more water it gets?

Which song is the most-recorded ever?

...........

Yl

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: We Taiwanese have won this general election..
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:59:03 GMT

In article <23DEC92.11381544@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw> u333057@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw writes:

.....
  
>t by our own.
>    When will you Chinese chose your own government by your own?
>                               Tsao Yi-Wen(A university student in Taiwan)
>                                          (Please forgive my poor English..)
>
I think this is scc instead of sct. Anyway, if my cousin or I myself
(better situation) becomes the president of PRC, then I can say China
has become a real free, democratic and properous country.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hu@aurora.physics.utoronto.ca (Min Hu)
Subject: Looking for possible investment 
Keywords: investment
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 07:35:02 GMT

HI, 
Urgent investment around $3million (yes, that is the number) needed for 
a very well located project in China. Interested people are welcomed to
this acount or at followings:

tel: (416) 928-1403
fax: (416) 928-9319

Any information related to possible investors are also welcomed. I will 
direct you to Chinese part.

Thanx

HU MIN
From: zhang@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Yaoen Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 22 Dec 92 07:42:04 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <01GSJW441NJ496VN9G@CWU.BITNET> TAN@CWU.BITNET writes:
>From:   IN%"HUSS8397@iscsvax.uni.edu" 19-DEC-1992 15:34:21.56
    

test
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