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From: pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct (BLEAH!) Demonstration...
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:54:15 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics

In article <5fnI037m76We00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jeffreyp@uts.amdahl.com (Jeff Mainville) writes:
>
>The Living End is playing at the Castro Theater; it depicts HIV+ gays
>killing people  - rather a negative light, wouldn't you say?  Why have
>their been no protests by the gay community against that film?
>
>Just wondering...


Because in "The Living End" the characters have reasons for doing what they
do.  They are reacting to situations which are so fucked up, infuriating,
and/or ridiculous that we can understand why they do what they do.
They are giving voice to frustrations that many of us feel.

pauli
From: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com (Rod Williams)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Project Inform Whitewater Raft-A-Thon
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:19:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco
Originator: rjwill6@pbsdts.sdcrc.pacbell.com


(Got this from Project Inform, via the NGLTF/Workplace
Initiative mailing-list...rod)

6th Annual Whitewater Raft-A-Thon Trip on the South Fork of
the American River -- Sunday, September 13, 1992, 8 am to 6 pm

Come join Project Inform for a fun filled day of whitewater
rafting on the South Fork of the American River.  Each raft
will be skippered by a professional river guide, making this
trip great for those with no prior experience.  The run is
rated Class III and lunch will be provided.  We are offering
this trip for the incredible low price of $50 (it is a $110
value) and in return we are asking people to collect pledge
money for Project Inform for each mile we go down the river,
a total of 10 miles.  The river alternates between thrilling
rapids and relaxing calms amid scenic beauty, providing a
perfect environment for a fun day in the great outdoors.

Overnight camping is offered Saturday, September 12 for $10,
which includes a light breakfast on Sunday morning.  We
encourage you to organize a corporate team or a group of
your friends!

For further info call Bill Rosen or Bill Stibich at Project
Inform, at (415) 558-8669.
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From: david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us (David Schachter)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Oregon
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 10:04:27 PDT
Organization: Greenwire Consulting, Palo Alto, CA, USA

Mr. Preston volleys:
> Mr. Cornish notes:
> > Mr. Rochlin essays:
> > >
> > >[...] irregardless isn't a word.
> > >
> > Absolutely right, Max!  The correct usage is "disunirregardless"!!!
> >
> This is starting to get antidisirregardlessmentarianistic....

Proposed new ba.motss mantra:

  Sit on your dictionaries; sit on your dictionaries.

  :-)

(By the way, Mr. Preston, your word, spelled backwards, may contain a lost
sonnet by Shakespeare.  Perhaps not.  Forwards, your word means "being
against a system of beliefs stressing rejection of a lack of faith in rele-
vance."  I think.  Note that you missed an "un" in Mr. Cornish's word.  Had
you added the "un," I believe my brain would have exploded, or perhaps the
End of the Usenet [Predicted].)

Next question: Whatever happened to the actor who played Dr. Smith on the
television show "Lost in Space?"  Benjamin Harris is the name, if memory
serves.

______________________________________-______________________________________
David Schachter                                 david@llustig.palo-alto.ca.us
801 Middlefield Road, #8                  ...!{mips,decwrl,sgi}!llustig!david
Palo Alto, CA  94301-2916                 After 10 am, voice: +1 415 328 7425
From: pierre@Autodesk.COM (Pierre Malraison)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Learn to Square Dance
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:11:46 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

asente@adobe.com (Paul Asente) writes:
> 
> Charleston and San Antonio -- right next to the YWCA.
> 
> You don't need:			You do need:
> 	A partner			Comfortable shoes or boots
> 	Funny clothes			To be able to walk
                             --------------
> 	To be coordinated		To want to have fun
> 
 
Has anyone ever tried square dancing with wheelchairs?
Just for the record on the don't column there are (pretty good)
blind square dancers.
-- 
Pierre Malraison
U.S. Snail: Autodesk ,Inc. 2320 Marinship Way,Sausalito CA 94965
e-mail:         pierre@autodesk.com
Opinions expressed above purely personal.
Xref: sparky ba.motss:1503 soc.motss:37729
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
Subject: Re: Rob Bernardo's Memorial Service
Keywords: Rob Bernardo, Memorial
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:16:23 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <n5hn=rl.chas@netcom.com> chas@netcom.com (Chuck Fisher) writes:
>
>       Families, including children, are welcome to attend.
>       Start thinking about what you'd like to bring for the
>       pot-luck,

Lemon meringue pie, of course.

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From: tachyon@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Tane' Tachyon)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Indigo Girls
Keywords: blah blah
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:52:38 GMT
Organization: Tachyon Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <l9i41pINNdfd@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> jav@rhiannon.Sitka.Sun.COM (Joyce Vanderpoorten) writes:
>Did anyone else out there get to participate in this event
>at the Greek yesterday.  What a great show.

Yeah, except it was so hot there that I and the people I was with all
got horrible headaches and otherwise felt awful.  Before the concert
had really even started I walked into the first aid tent for a minute
and there were already people laying down on cots from heat troubles.
But on the positive side, my friend remarked that it was the only
concert she'd been to where the audience could actually sing along in
key and on the beat.  :-)

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Newsgroups: ba.motss
From:  (Craig Webb)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:05:21 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc

In article <1374@dosbears>, drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston) writes:
> As a matter of fact, yes. There are two things that annoy me more
> than cigarette smoke: ignorance and stupidity.

I see you emcompass both quite nicely.  Here's to smoke in your face.

> Oh, make that three
> things -- I hate having to add another twit to my kill file....
  
If it is YOUR kill file, most happy to be included.  A true privilege.

> --
>          David R. Preston   drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
>               Information gladly given but safety requires
>                the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
             
But, aren't we practicing a little unsafe here?  (Answer NOT required or even
                    		                            desirable!!)



\aliscafo/
From: mattm@Apple.COM (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Stop Smoking .
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:58:41 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>Ah (to tie this in with another thread), it seems that not all Nazis
>are associated with the OCA.

Oh, come on.  

a.  Comparing an anti-smoking activist to the Nazi party is a *bit*
    of a stretch...  

b.  Do you have to drag the OCA thread into the smoking thread?  Didn't
    we already go through that once?


Matthew Melmon
Apple Computer, Inc.
I do not speak for persons in powerful positions, but only me
Xref: sparky ba.motss:1527 ba.politics:5026
From:  (Craig Webb)
Newsgroups: ba.motss,ba.politics
Subject: Over & OUT
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:54:16 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc

>From Newsday-
In an election battle where the words "family values" have become the
ammunition of choice, two gay magazines are considering exposing some
key Republican officials as gays or lesbians.
Prompted by what they say is ugly gay-bashing by Republicans, the
Advocate and QW have named in the last two weeks three Republicans
as gay: a conservative Southern congressman, a longtime speech writer
and the son of a conservative activist.
But depending on the tone of the Republican campaign, they might only
have just begun, QW editor Maer Roshan said Tuesday, contending that
the magazine was sitting on "eight or nine names" of officials they
believe are gay or lesbian, all of them "people in policy-making areas."
If this continues, the gay-bashing, in the next few weeks, we'll start
with people who are most noxious and work our way down: people both in
the administration and also elected officials," Roshan said.
QW, a weekly New York-based magazine, has "outed" high-profile Republicans
in each of the past two issues in response, Roshan said, to a strong
tone against gay and lesbian rights at the Republican National Convention
two weeks ago.
And in an editorial in QW's 9/6 issue, the magazine says:"We too, like
a certain senator who tyrannized Americans almost 40 years ago, have a
list....If we are driven by this war to go public, to name names, we
will."
The congressman has publicly denied that he is gay.  The speech writer
and activist's son have refused comment.
Advocate editor Jeff Yarbrough took a more cautious approach.  He said
he felt uncomfortable using the contentious practice of "outing" and that
he regarded it as a last-resort tactic for times of "political necessity."
The magazine nevertheless circulated pre-publication copies this week of
its next cover story, an extensive piece titled: "The Outing of a Family
Values Congressman."
"We're aware of other elected national officials," Yarbrough said.  "There
are elected officials out there who are actively engaging in negative
voting records who are gay and lesbian.  Those are the people we are
investigating."

Opinions?

\aliscafo/
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: Re: Learn to Square Dance
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:43:46 GMT

In article <17562@autodesk.COM> pierre@Autodesk.COM (Pierre Malraison) writes:
>Has anyone ever tried square dancing with wheelchairs?

There are wheelchair square dancing groups where everyone is in a wheelchair.
I've not seen people in wheelchairs dancing with people on their feet; I
don't know how well it would work out but you never know 'till you try.

>Just for the record on the don't column there are (pretty good)
>blind square dancers.

There are *incredibly* good blind square dancers.  I am in awe.

      -paul asente
	   asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

Looking out the window she saw Herbert, Albert, and Harold, the gardener,
an exceptionally well-made youth, disporting themselves on the lawn.
From: jeffreyp@uts.amdahl.com (Jeff Mainville)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct (BLEAH!) Demonstration...
Summary: BLEAH!: Basic Instinct Demonstration... (was Basic Instinct (BLEAH!) Demonstration...)
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:20:25 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Security 'R' Us

In article <17ui46INNdg1@agate.berkeley.edu>, cathyc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Catherine Anne Chen) writes:
> 
> [ stuff about demonstrating against Basic Instinct deleted ] 
> 
> Thanks,
> Cathy Chen
> (510) 643-2162
> cathyc@ocf.berkeley.edu

The Living End is playing at the Castro Theater; it depicts HIV+ gays
killing people  - rather a negative light, wouldn't you say?  Why have
their been no protests by the gay community against that film?

Just wondering...

Jeff Mainville
-- 
jeff mainville                            "I told the priest -
jeffreyp@uts.amdahl.com -or-              don't count on any second coming.
{ames,sun,uunet,decwrl}!amdahl!jeffreyp   God got his ass kicked
                                          the first time he came down here slumming.
                                          He had the balls to come, the gall to die
                                          And then forgive us.
                                          I don't wonder why,
                                          I just wonder what he thought it would get us.
                                               -- "tomorrow, Wendy"
                                                  Concrete Blonde (Bloodletting)

                         - Standard Disclaimer Stuff -
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Nursing Bulletin Boards
Keywords: Balh Blah
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:58:08 GMT
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com

Does anyone know of any nursing BBS systems in the San Diego/Los
Angeles area.  Please post to me if you know.  Thanks

Joyce
Newsgroups: ba.motss,soc.motss
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: Rob Bernardo's Memorial Service
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 00:39:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: us
Keywords: Rob Bernardo, Memorial

In article <n5hn=rl.chas@netcom.com> chas@netcom.com (Chuck Fisher) writes:
>You're cordially invited to:
>
>
>What:  Rob Bernardo's Memorial Service
>
>When:  Saturday, September 26, 1992 starting at 2 pm
>
>Where: The R Bar JB, Rob's home at 4369 Rose Lane,
>       Concord, CA.  (Detailed directions will be
>       posted later.)
>
Folks coming from Southern California who are interested in driving
up on 25 or 26 (early!) September might give me a call. I'm driving up
in my truck and I'd appreciate the company. Call me at (805) 944-5670
or (213) 462-2679 (Kenimation).



-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543
                         Fax: 805.944.5958
From: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Basic Instinct (BLEAH!) Demonstration...
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:22:12 GMT
Reply-To: gnn@wsl.dec.com (George Neville-Neil)
Distribution: ba
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab

In article <5fnI037m76We00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, jeffreyp@uts.amdahl.com (Jeff Mainville) writes:
|> In article <17ui46INNdg1@agate.berkeley.edu>, cathyc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Catherine Anne Chen) writes:
|> > 
|> > [ stuff about demonstrating against Basic Instinct deleted ] 
|> > 
|> > Thanks,
|> > Cathy Chen
|> > (510) 643-2162
|> > cathyc@ocf.berkeley.edu
|> 
|> The Living End is playing at the Castro Theater; it depicts HIV+ gays
|> killing people  - rather a negative light, wouldn't you say?  Why have
|> their been no protests by the gay community against that film?
|> 

Several reasons:

1) Because it is not a Hollywood film that is being mass marketed.  I 
doubt very much that it will play anywhere but in art theatres.

2) Because it is gays writing about and portraying gays, not about 
a strayt interpretation of same.

3) Because it is not the same old shit that we always get from
Hollowwood.  I doubt a major Hollowwood house would have a film
about two HIV+ guys doing anything but lying down and waiting to
die like good little faggots.

4) Because this movie said a lot of things that people really are feeling
inside.

5) Because a lot of queers who protested against BI and a lot of 
those who didn't would, on occaision, love to blow away three bashers
who were threatening to kill them.

BTW I just saw it last night and I enjoyed it a lot, but then that's
my tastes.

Later,
George

PS Just in case you're wondering, I didn't protest BI, I really can't get
myself worked up about Hollowwood trash.  If people want to buy it then
that's their lookout.

-- 
To fathom hell, or soar angelic, take a pinch of psychedelic.
				Dr. Osmond
From:  (Craig Webb)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: North by Northeast
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:37:08 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc

9% government spending on health care for ALL, now this from Toronto...

The Ontario government was ordered to extend survivor benefits to the 
partners of lesbian and gay government employees.  The decision was made
by an independent board of inquiry appointed under the Ontario Human Rights
Code.  The board ruled that although the denial of benefits was allowed
under the provincial human rights code, it violated the equality
guarantee of the federal Charter of Rights.

In January 1991, the provincial government extended health and dental
insurance coverage to significant others in same sex relationships.

They still need to work out a pension plan extension because of federal
income tax laws, but indeed, progress is being made in the world.


And in Sacramento...

Willie Brown (D,SF) got his civil rights bill, similar to the previously 
defeated AB 101, and superseding recent state Supreme Court decisions
restricting civil rights protections, past the assembly, but is now   
waiting for Wilson.  Let's hope the governor does the right thing.


\aliscafo/
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Oregon
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:39:27 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Distribution: ca
Organization: DosBears

In article <22918@sybase.sybase.com> ccornish@sybase.com (Carleton Cornish) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.163009.28714@queernet.org> max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug19.142314.13630@pcnntp.apple.com> (Craig Webb) writes:
>>
>>Also, irregardless isn't a word.
>>
>>....Max
>>
>Absolutely right, Max!  The correct usage is "disunirregardless"!!!

This is starting to get antidisirregardlessmentarianistic....

--
         David R. Preston   drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
              Information gladly given but safety requires
               the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
            D. R. Preston 584 Castro St. #614 SF CA 94114 USA
From: flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Learn to Square Dance
Date: 2 Sep 1992 20:12:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: flar@bendenweyr.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Graham)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bendenweyr

pierre@Autodesk.COM (Pierre Malraison) writes:
|> asente@adobe.com (Paul Asente) writes:
|> > 
|> > Charleston and San Antonio -- right next to the YWCA.
|> > 
|> > You don't need:			You do need:
|> > 	A partner			Comfortable shoes or boots
|> > 	Funny clothes			To be able to walk
|>                              --------------
|> > 	To be coordinated		To want to have fun
|> > 
|>  
|> Has anyone ever tried square dancing with wheelchairs?
|> Just for the record on the don't column there are (pretty good)
|> blind square dancers.

There is also a deaf gay square dancer in San Francisco that can
do a pretty good job of following his "mirror" to see where to go.

				...jim
From: ccornish@sybase.com (Carleton Cornish)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Oregon
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:31:43 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Aug20.163009.28714@queernet.org> max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.142314.13630@pcnntp.apple.com> (Craig Webb) writes:
>
>Also, irregardless isn't a word.
>
>....Max
>
Absolutely right, Max!  The correct usage is "disunirregardless"!!!


>-- 
>|  max@queernet.org  |   Max J. Rochlin   |  {uunet,mips,decwrl}!unpc!max  |
>+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|      If everything is coming your way then you're in the wrong lane.     |

-carleton

************************************
Carleton Cornish			ccornish@sybase.com
Sybase, Inc.				(510) 596-3883
					"Opinions mine...all mine!"
"A waist is a terrible thing to mind."   --me
From: drp@dosbears.UUCP (David R. Preston)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: Northern Exposure
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:41:15 GMT
Reply-To: drp@dosbears.uucp
Organization: DosBears

In article <1992Aug17.145614.7794@pcnntp.apple.com> (Craig Webb) writes:
>Don't you people have anything better to do than discuss your
>being irritated because your clothing smells of smoke upon
>returning from a bar?

As a matter of fact, yes. There are two things that annoy me more
than cigarette smoke: ignorance and stupidity. Oh, make that three
things -- I hate having to add another twit to my kill file....

--
         David R. Preston   drp@dosbears.uucp dosbears@netcom.com
              Information gladly given but safety requires
               the avoidance of unnecessary conversation.
            D. R. Preston 584 Castro St. #614 SF CA 94114 USA
Newsgroups: ba.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Stop Smoking .
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:57:17 GMT

In article <17du09INNlka@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU writes:
>Hmmmm!  but I still stand by and state that this is a fairly simple step in
>the process of changing a condition which has no 'seeable' benefits.  Smoking
>is injurious period.  There use to be claims that it had health benefits but
>those have all been fairly well disproven- anyway I know when I am around 
>smokers I don't feel any benefits.

Ah (to tie this in with another thread), it seems that not all Nazis
are associated with the OCA.

I dislike tobacco a lot, and I stay away from most bars because of
that, but I wouldn't presume to speak for a tobacco smoker about its
lack of 'benefits' (to use a weird word in this context.) People who
smoke presumably like to smoke.

Tell me, Stephen, do you think that gay sex has any 'seeable benefits'?
Perhaps we could embark on a process of changing your condition...

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com (Joyce Vanderpoorten)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Cramer
Followup-To: ba.politics
Date: 4 Sep 1992 15:12:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Reply-To: jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhiannon.sitka.sun.com
Keywords: blah blah


This dude wil go to any length to get attention.  You poor
deproved child.  You may have to spend eternity in a very
warm place if you don't remove the evils from you body -
or do you try to shake tem out every night.


- Joyce
From: cathyc@ocf.berkeley.edu (Catherine Anne Chen)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Basic Instinct (BLEAH!) Demonstration...
Date: 1 Sep 92 01:47:50 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu


Sorry about the late notice, but its my queer time-clock that is a lot slow
lately:

"Basic Instinct" is showing on the UC Berkeley Campus this 
Friday, September 4th at Wheeler Auditorium.

Unfortunately, ASUC Superb, the group hosting the movie, will not
consider retracting the movie - and will not disclose reasons why - 
even after a nice letter from yours truly plus some.

I am planning a peaceful demonstration before and after both films. One
showing is at 7pm the other is at 9:30pm. 

Before the movie: We will have a table in the lobby with fliers and possibly 
"catherine did it" t-shirts. People who are willing to stand with signs
can be outside.

After the movie(s): At all the doors, we will hand out handbills detailing 
how offensive the movie is and why, etc. Plus hopefully staff that same
table.

If you would like to help us, we need your help! I realize that it is 
labor day weekend, so many people will be out of town. But please pass
my phone number on to anyone you know who lives in the East Bay and would 
be willing to help out!

Thanks,
Cathy Chen
(510) 643-2162
cathyc@ocf.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: ba.dance