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From: csi110@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Yves)
Subject: Re: Full Moon Logo .gif (1/1)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:30:59 GMT

How can you uncode .GIFs?
Much appreciated.

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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: librik@cory.Berkeley.EDU (David Librik)
Subject: Re: Algernon Blackwood Book
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:28:37 GMT


>Maria Douglas writes:
>>Has anyone heard of a book by Blackwood called "John Silence"?

Oh yes this.  This isn't as bad as most people seem to think it is.  It's
not remarkable, but Blackwood is so good at atmospheric scenery that the
actual silliness of the plot is overcome.  ("The Willows" and "The Wendigo",
probably his best stories, are masterpieces of subtle malignant description.)
John Silence was a sort of "psychic" commando, a master of exorcism and the
dark ways of spooks.  Needless to say, to write a story with a character
like this, Blackwood had to make the horrors very intense indeed.  The first
story in the book pretty much exhausts the scenario -- a haunted-house story
with an exceptional degree of attack-and-counterattack.  Another story,
called (I think) "the Dark Brotherhood", is quite good: of course, Silence
makes almost no appearance in it.  The way the story slides into the past
as the protagonist moves deeper into the Black Forest and the old school is
very well done and worth re-reading just to watch a good writer at work.
The Camp of the Dog" is the most egregious example of "psychic" rationalization
and mumbo-jumbo, but the actual setting -- in the thousand tiny isles of the
Baltic sea -- is almost spooky enough to carry the story itself.  (Someone --
I think it was Edmund Wilson -- called Blackwood's stories "travelogues" whose
horrors never quite fulfilled the promise of the careful atmospheric buildup.)
Blackwood was a bit of a Pagan: Nature (benign or malignant) is usually the
real force behind his stories.  When he can keep from moralizing about this
to great lengths (e.g. "The Man That The Trees Loved") he can pull off quite
a shiver.

- David Librik
librik@cory.Berkeley.edu
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From: f0356@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: American Psycho?
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:39:11 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <9251@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
> In article <1dd0eoINN4es@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ch730@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Quill) writes:
>>After reading this book, I was wondering if there are any other books along a similiar vein?  This is one of the grossest books I've ever read.  I want to read more.  :)  I've read some standard horror type books, but none quite like this. ###
> 
> I have been looking here and there for "American Psycho" and I am dying to 
> read it. I am especially curious about it now due to the above statement!
> 
> 				Laurel
>  
> **** a suggestion for further reading: Chicago Loop by Paul Theroux, the man
who brought us Mosquito Coast. The great thing about this one is that PT is a
much better writer than BEE and really disturbs you without being overly
graphic.

*******I know that Waldenbooks carries American Psycho in the fiction section.
Most of them should have it. Any book store can order it for you, Ingrams still
carries plenty of copies.


***************Merrick X***

oh by the way, if you havent seen Vampires Kiss go out and rent it...
> 
>
From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: alt.horror
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:37:19 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

The most horrifying scene in film has to be when Rosemary (played by Mia 
Farrow) is raped by the devil in Rosemary's Baby.  I can barely sit through 
it and after I saw it the first time I had bad dreams for weeks.  It's 
absolutely terrifying.

Other select scenes from Horror Film's Most Frightening list might include:

The Birds:  When the bird's begin to gather on the jungle gym at the 
playground as Tippy Hedren waits for the little girl to get out of school.

Psycho:  When the woman is down in the basement and "discovers" Mrs. Bates 
in the chair.

Exorcist III:  When the nurse is checking out the sounds on the ward.  
Kinderman's dream is fairly awesome, too.

Wolfen:  When the detective and the woman are in the Wolfen's abandoned 
church and she begins to climb the stairs thinking she hears a child 
crying.

Jaws:  When Richard Dreyfuess is examining the sunken boat and the dead 
guy's head comes floating through the hole.

There are lots more, i imagine, but these are what come to mind.

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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: 3-D Horror Films
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:20:20 GMT

In article <tgtchb.720979051@tb3.chem.tue.nl> tgtchb@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Harold C.L. Baur) writes:
>From: tgtchb@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Harold C.L. Baur)
>Subject: Re: 3-D Horror Films
>Date: 5 Nov 92 15:57:31 GMT

>donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:

>    (about 3-D movies)

>>>PARASITE
>>>JAWS 3D
>>>TREASURE OF THE FOUR CROWNS
>>>METALSTORM: THE DESTRUCTION OF JARED SYN
>>>SPACEHUNTER: ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE

>Add AMITYVILLE part <I forgot that> as well. Or one of the many clones
>of that movie. Anyway, it is not even worth mentioning here I guess.

>   Haribo.

It's AMITYVILLE 3-D.

Also, FRIDAY 13TH PART III, NIGHT ON ELM STREET V.

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              _  _  _                  / \   \ 
            /' )' )' )                |   |   |           
              /  /  /                 | (_|__/         \   
             /     /  __. .__    ___  |   |  __.  . .   \  .   ___ 
            /     (__(_/|__) )__/(__   \_/__(_/|__)\_)__/\__)__) <_ 
                    Markus on QuartzPARADISE and AfterFive
+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
|       markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca       | "My son, ask for thyself    |
| For Talk:  8900795@clement.info.umoncton.ca |  another kingdom.  For that |
|---------------------------------------------+  which I leave is too small |
| When all else fails,  read the instructions |  for thee" - King Philippe  |
+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Hellraiser III
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 17:29:18 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Socioanarchy and a bit of feudalism

 RE: the quality of Hellraiser III
 
 I was GREATLY dissapointed with the movie -- the second it was over, one 
of the people I went with, knowing that I'm a fan of the series, asked me 
how I liked it. My response was "It's a pretty good movie, but NOT a good 
Hellraiser movie". Or, to put it another way, Hell On Earth would have 
made the BEST Nightmare on Elm Street film EVER. Too bad that it tried to 
operate in Clive Barker's universe.
 
 I don't intent to spoil anything, but here are the problems I had with 
the flick:
 
 (1) It trivialized Pinhead. The beautiful thing about the character, as 
Barker created him, was that he DIDN'T obey the usual horror baddie 
conventions. He didn't cackle madly. He did get physical. He wasn't out 
for personal gain. He was distant, aloof, and just doing his job. 
Hellraiser III's Pinhead broke EACH and EVERY one of those "laws".
 
(2) Barker's worldview expressed in Hellraiser and followed through in 
Hellraiser II is that "evil" (ie - Hell) is an elemental power that has 
NO "good" opposite. There are no angels in THIS universe; it's us poor 
humans vs. the Powers of Evil. NOT a fair or comforting arrangement. By 
providing the main character of Hellraiser III with a magical ally, the 
nihilistic universal order is simply toppled.
 
(3) The glorious thing about Clive Barker's writing is that he can be 
utterly perverse without apparent effort. How many people die in 
Hellraiser? A handful...BUT, each death is twisted and staggeringly 
nasty. It's economical and effective. Hell on Earth, on the other hand, 
tried to duplicate this without really understanding WHY it worked -- 
instead of a few awful deaths, we're given HUNDREDS of bodies killed in 
very banal kind of ways. Just doesn't cut it.
 
(4) I have a rule of thumb when watching a movie -- if I start re-writing 
it in my head, the filmaker's failed. At about the halfway point, I 
started doing this...
 
 
 The worst part is that the people involved didn't just churn out a 
sequel-by-the-numbers. The really TRIED to make a good movie, and, in 
some ways, managed to (the two female protagonists were a HELL of a lot 
better-rounded then the flat Kirstey of the previous two films)...but, 
because they didn't understand the Hellraiser formula, the final result 
was less than stunning.
 
marlowe

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From: S.E.Rigden@newcastle.ac.uk (Simon Rigden)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: American Psycho?
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:45:54 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier) writes:

>Because of the horror list on Bitnet I bought this book. What a horrible
>mistake. The book isn't horrible because of what happens in it. It's
>horrible because it is an extremely boring book. It was very badly
>written.  I was only able to get through about half of it before I
>just gave up.


 I wouldn't say the book was badly written.
 I can see how you would find it boring due to the endless fashion details etc.
but these are necessary to show exactly what's going on inside the pyscho's
mind. I thought it interesting how a serial killer could be so paranoid about
social etiquette and making the right impression on his peers.
 Also the layout of the book describing his mundane social and business
engagements is hard to take, and almost put me off, but if you persevere it's
very interesting to see how his perverted sadistic lust is slowly integrated
more and more into his personal life and way of thinking until he goes
completely insane.
 The book is a bleak statement about how far society has come, and how all
honesty and love has gone out the window - people don't listen any more and as
a result can't see what's going on under their own noses.
 I thought the best part of the book was when he went to the fancy dress party
with a sign on him saying in big letters 'Mass Murderer' but the people around
him were just too caught up in their own lives to think anything of it.


 Anyway, I enjoyed the book and recommend it - but that's only my opinion.

 Simon (S.E.Rigden@ncl.ac.uk)
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From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: _Susperia_
Reply-To: eprice@sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:47:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.043843.10824@rose.com>
colin.buckley@rose.com (colin buckley) writes:

>I also rented it after people had it on there Top Ten lists.  Saying it was
>a good recent rental.  I assumed it was new, but it didn't look it to me and
>it had no copyright notice on the Canadian distribution box or in the movie
>credits.  Looks atleast 10 years old.

More like 16 years.  Came out in 1977.  Still unsurpassed, IMHO
(suggestions of worthy successors are always welcome...).

>The most appealing part of the movie was the incredible sound track,
>the Goblins are great in this movie and pretty much well played the entire
>length of the film.

Yeah, the soundtrack is great.  The visual aspect of the film is just
as good though.  A shame to watch it on video.  A true pleasure to
experience the movie on the < B i g  S c r e e n > . . .  The laserdisc
is nice but hardly compares to the real thing.

BTW, I hear that the cinematographer (Luciano Tovoli) also did some
flick called "Obsession: A Taste of Fear" or something like that.
Anyone here know it?  Any good?

Ciao,

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sybase.com (not wildman@...)
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Primal Scream Therapy
Keywords: inxs's "suicidal blonde" sounds like "soup and salad bar"
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:35:31 GMT
Distribution: alt.horror
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov4.213727.23604@ucselx.sdsu.edu> maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.) writes:
>  Good day, fellow netterpunks. Since this is "alt.horror", I would like
>to express my horror at the election of Bill Clinton to the Oval Office.
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
>  Ah. That feels much better.
>  Thank you.
>							Love & kisses,
>						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer
>						Romero/Savini in '96!

I am glad someone else feels this way too! In fact, I didn't even vote for
a presidential candidate because I didn't want to vote just for the saking of
voting for one of them (I wasn't especially happy with any of the three). I
voted in the other parts of the election though. I like the Romero/Savini
ticket for '96. Good idea!

				Laurel
 


__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________
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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: 3-D Horror Films
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:01:18 GMT

In article <markus.172.720987620@clement.info.umoncton.ca> markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:
>In article <tgtchb.720979051@tb3.chem.tue.nl> tgtchb@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Harold C.L. Baur) writes:
>>From: tgtchb@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Harold C.L. Baur)
>>Subject: Re: 3-D Horror Films
>>Date: 5 Nov 92 15:57:31 GMT
>
>>donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>
>>    (about 3-D movies)
>
>>>>PARASITE
>>>>JAWS 3D
>>>>TREASURE OF THE FOUR CROWNS
>>>>METALSTORM: THE DESTRUCTION OF JARED SYN
>>>>SPACEHUNTER: ADVENTURES IN THE FORBIDDEN ZONE
>
>>Add AMITYVILLE part <I forgot that> as well. Or one of the many clones
>>of that movie. Anyway, it is not even worth mentioning here I guess.
>
>>   Haribo.
>
>It's AMITYVILLE 3-D.
>
>Also, FRIDAY 13TH PART III, NIGHT ON ELM STREET V.
>
>                                         ____
>              _  _  _                  / \   \ 
>            /' )' )' )                |   |   |           
>              /  /  /                 | (_|__/         \   
>             /     /  __. .__    ___  |   |  __.  . .   \  .   ___ 
>            /     (__(_/|__) )__/(__   \_/__(_/|__)\_)__/\__)__) <_ 
>                    Markus on QuartzPARADISE and AfterFive
>+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
>|       markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca       | "My son, ask for thyself    |
>| For Talk:  8900795@clement.info.umoncton.ca |  another kingdom.  For that |
>|---------------------------------------------+  which I leave is too small |
>| When all else fails,  read the instructions |  for thee" - King Philippe  |
>+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+

A little older, but still great, is "The Mask". Only the hallucination 
sequences are in 3-D, and so your eyes get a break now and then.

Also, look for "The Maze" sometime. Hard to find in 3-D, but good in any
version.

					--Judex--
From: pfe@meryl.csd.uu.se (Per Ekman)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: WHO OWNS CTHULHU?????
Date: 7 Nov 92 13:48:09 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Reply-To: pfe@meryl.csd.uu.se
NNTP-Posting-Host: meryl.csd.uu.se
Organisation: DVL, Uppsala University

bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (The Human Mi-Go) writes:

[...etc..]

>Oh dear, I think it's time this group had a proper FAQ...

[...etc..]

While on the subject: Has someone collected references to, or
descriptions of, the various creatures appearing in the works
of HPL? I would be very interested in such a compilation. 

-pfe
From: DukeJ@cup.portal.com (Chris - Janus)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Susperia
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 23:55:49 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

   Since it looks like a thread is gonna be started by the movie Susperia,
I just thought I'd get my two cents in. When the movie was released in the
U.S. they media-blitzed it with an ad campaign which I still recall as THE
scariest thing I have ever seen. The commercials for Susperia TERRORIZED me
(I was about, oh I'd say ten at the time). 
   Basically, the ads showed a female sitting at a makeup-desk (what is the
real name for those things, anyway). The camera was looking at her back. She
was, if I remember right, reciting a nursery rhyme, which I can't recall now.
Anyway, she turns around, and her face is just a skull!
   Hell, I know this doesn't sound scary.....It doesn't even sound that bad
to me.  But this damn commercial gave me nightmares for months.
   Anyone else remember the ad? (Hell, forget the movie...<G>)

DukeJ@cup.portal.com
From: tcg@mayo.edu (Thomas Gerber)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: M.R. James (was: Re: Algernon Blackwood)
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:38:23 GMT
Reply-To: tcg@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic/Foundation Rochester MN Campus

In article 22282@grebyn.com,  fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster) writes:

>Well, since horror fiction is supposed to be my area of expertise :-),
[and adds some very enlightening bits on the biography of Algernon 
Blackwood including a short reference to M. R. James].

Would you care to post a similar summary on M. R. James who is still
one of my favourite horror writers? I started out reading German
translations of his stuff, then I came across the "Penguin Book of M. R.
James Ghost Stories" that probably contains most everything he's ever
published along that vein. Some of his stories still give me shudders if I only
think of them.

I don't know much about him except what is mentioned in the blurb
on the back of the book ( ... Dean at Cambridge?/Oxford?, blah ... ). I
remember reading somewhere that supposedly his stories lack substance
(whatever that means).

I'd love to hear what is regarded as being "typical" for his stories and any
other opinions on his work.

Thanks

                                    - tcg
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From: colin.buckley@rose.com (colin buckley)
Subject: _Susperia_
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:52:51 GMT
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Date Entered: 11-10-92 03:49
DO>Goblin did the music for these films, among others:

DO>Dawn Of The Dead <not really featured except in the italian cut. Argento
  >                 helped out on it. This what you meant by "Day Of The Dawn"?>

Yea that's what I meant, some bizarre typo there...

DO>Suspiria was released by a facade of 20th Century Fox <International
  >Classics> in 1976. Argento sat on the film until somebody let him
  >arrange a proper directors cut for the film. I do not know where any
  >tapes of the american R-Rated version, with the stupid opening credits,
  >would be coming from, since he refused to release it until a few years
  >ago, and that was the directors cut.

Hmm, I wonder what version I saw.  From the highly glossy box (Fancy gothic
chiselled stone letters "Dario Argento's SUSPIRIA") it looked VERY new, aside
from the picture of the American student and the plug of some early 80's movie
she was in.

I'd have to say it's a fluke that the local small-time neighbourhood video
store happened to have a copy, when they usually stick to mainstream
big studio ventures.

I probably won't have any luck finding the others.

Thanks for the info...
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From: moeller@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mars)
Subject: Hellraiser II - the lost cut scenes.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:38:14 GMT

Recently there was discussion on this group regarding some of the scenes
that never made it into Hellraiser II. The most easily recognisable was
the Cenobites dressed in surgeon's clothes, and Pinhead in a surgeon's
mask, as seen on the back of the Hellraiser II video box. A nice looking
scene, we never did get to see.

On the original New World Video "Hellraiser" (SNW 1038), there is a promo for
Hellraiser II, and it features a few seconds (not very much!) of never
seen before Hellraiser II footage.

The two scenes include:

(a) A shot of elevator doors opening, and the teeth-chattering Cenobite
    greeting whoever was about to step from the elevator.

(b) A shot of elevator doors closing, and bloodied fingers being caught
    in the doors as they are closing.


Has anyone any (ANY!) ideas on where these (and other) lost scenes may
be available? (Laserdisc?)
From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: HPL
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 17:23:47 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Socioanarchy and a bit of feudalism

RE: Lovecraft
 
 Let's face reality here -- HPL was a LOUSY writer. His prose was so 
thick and convoluted that it's almost impossible to read -- almost 
Milton-esque, in a strange kind of way.
 
 That said, I do read his stuff every now and again because his 
imagination ALMOST overcomes the turgid prose...not an easy thing to do.
 
marlowe

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From: tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:36:27 GMT

tnielson@spock.NMSU.Edu (THORIN NIELSON) writes:

The Texan is named Quincey Morris. He and Dr. Seward fought next to
each other in some adventures which are briefly described in the book.
Morris loses his life at the end of the book in his attempt to break
through the Slovaks carrying Dracula's coffin home to his castle. Mina
and Jonathan name their first son after him.

Tracey
UIUC

>Just saw Dracula..............ohmygodohmygodohmygod. Was it good!

>I can't see anything wrong with it except Keanu Reeves has the cheeseiest  
>English accent...well I can overlook that.  Oh, and I don't remember a Texan  
>being involved in the Dracula Mythos.

>Oldman----superb
>Hopkins---the perfect Van Helsing.

>Everybody is going to find something in this film that they're going to like.


>Thorin Nielson 
>(honorary member of the Theron Marks Society for Cthulhu Addicts) 
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