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From: fsw@gtech.com (Fred S. Wright)
Subject: Re: RI's reputation (and location)
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:25:35 GMT

In article <1a7lgcINN7qq@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
>
>>...as shown by our insurance rates (For my little Hyundai, I
>>must pay over $3,000 and I have no speeding tickets and no accidents on my
>>3 year record)
>
>   Sounds like you need a new insurance company.  My big Jeep is only
>about $1500/year for two "clean" drivers and reasonably comprehensive
>coverage.  For comparison, it was about $500 in San Antonio, and about
>$300 in Madison, Wisconsin.

Ah, but you see, if one is male and young, one has *no* choice with 
insurance companies!  I get placed in high risk pool automatically
regardless of any other consideration.  This is because Vinnie Spermatazoa
drives his IROC Z28 90 mile/hour without insurance.

London, here I come!

-- 
Frederic S Wright       | Although my opinions do not represent those of GTECH,
GTECH Corporation       | by an amazing coincidence they exactly mirror the
55 Technology Way       | sentiments held by Queen Margrethe II of Denmark.
W. Greenwich, RI  02860 |
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
From: peg@cs.washington.edu (Pete Granger)
Subject: RI's reputation (and location)
Summary: They've heard of us, but they don't know where we are
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 06:05:57 GMT

(Please note: This article is *in no way* intended as an attack on
Chris Mathis.)

It's often interesting to me to find out what people in other parts of
the country think of Rhode Island. For example...

A couple days ago, I called the registrar's office here to give them
my new address. When the woman brought up my file, she saw that it
still had my Providence address, and said to me, "Good thing you're
not still living in Providence, or you'd have your car stolen. I hear
they've got a big problem with car theft. Was yours ever stolen?" I
truthfully told her no, but I did have a window smashed in once.

Is RI's reputation for car theft *really* that bad?

And as to RI's elusive location...

I got to talking with a woman at the elementary school the other day
after I voted. She wanted to know where I came from previously. I told
her that I'd been born in Connecticut, but had lived in Vermont,
upstate New York, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island. And she responded
with, "So you've lived in a lot of different parts of the country."
(For anyone else who may be weak on geography, I think that all of my
former hometowns would fit easily in a space smaller than Washington.)

  "So tell me of Bruce,
   And tell me of Buddy!
   Their morals are loose,
   Their behavior is nutty!"
      -- an in-progress ode to Rhode Island politics
         (does anything rhyme with DeAngelis?)
-- 
--------
 Pete Granger                      "Any sufficiently primitive magic is
 peg@cs.washington.edu              indistinguishable from technology."
                                     - a cynical reader of A.C. Clarke
Newsgroups: alt.rhode_island
From: seth@mindvox.phantom.com (Seth Kravitz)
Subject: Re: Dealing with USENET (was: STUPID TOURISTS)
Organization: [Phantom Access] / the MindVox system
Distribution: alt.rhode_island
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:34:45 GMT

The above assumes, of course, the a Rhode Island specific topic is only 
of interest to a localized group. I'm interested, and I'm not from RI 
nor have I ever lived there. Just because something is local in a 
geographic sense doesn't mean it is of interest only to a localized group 
of people.

Seth
From: d90-two@dront.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Tiamat's sound?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:06:00 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <1992Sep28.233555.15410@leland.Stanford.EDU> rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.065239.6338@kth.se> d90-two@czarny.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
[My description of "The Astral Sleep" deleted]
>
>Yeah, the above description sounds pretty accurate. I just got their new
>album--Clouds. The Century Media guy says it's supposed to be in stores
>in a few weeks. I like Tiamat alot, but I think this one is weaker than
>their second album (I've never heard their first one). Clouds is very much
>in the same style as the second one. It'll probably grow on me as I listen
>to it more (I'm always slightly disappointed at first). I say if you're
>really into Tiamat, get it; if you're just starting get the second one
>over this one.

I just asked, and "Clouds" will be out in the middle of next week.
At least here in Europe.

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From: mc7g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Raymond Cote)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Tiamat's sound?
Date: 25 Sep 92 22:40:22 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

What does the band Tiamat sound like?  I've seen "The Astral Sleep" in a
used tape store and I'm thinking of buying it.  Are their songs fast or
doomy?  What're the sounds of the vocals and of the guitars?

Any info would be appreciated.

--Michael Cote

"...with the darkening light..."
From: espenm@dhhalden.no (ESPEN MONNICH)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Megadeth
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:47:44 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

Is there anyone out there, who are going to see Megadeth in Oslo the 13. 
October??? Or elsewere???

I'm really looking forward to it!! And besides the new album is EXELLENT!!!
The best so far........

Espen Moennich
From: hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haw Juin Lin)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Nocturnus - review request
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:04:56 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Nocturnus....most excellent...

The third song, Nocturn in Bm, I think is probably the most well written
peice they have ever done. The synth is mixed very well with the speed
licks and the rhythm. If anybody is a Nocturnus fan, definitely buy this
album, it is well worth the money.

*****

Five stars



Merlin
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: st1p8@jane.uh.edu
Subject: DEICIDE/DEMOLITION HAMMER/CANCER concert
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  Mosh
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:20:00 GMT

	Is anyone going to the concert here in Houston on November
8th?  It's Pornlord's birthday that day, so I'd better see you all
there---

				ROT!!!
From: GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (STEPHEN BECKETT)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: ABOMINATIONS OF DESOLATION
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:57:28 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.13.SMU


Anyone hear the really old Morbid Angel album, "Abominations Of
Desolation"?  It's really cool....has some of their newer songs
down in older versions.
Also, it was done before the addition of David Vincent, and the
guy who currently sings for Nocturnus (Mike Browning??) did the
vocals.  His voice is really weird, kinda screechy...

See ya'll in the pit!

<--SHADOWHAWK-->     :   GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.CA
From: hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Pantera vs. Rollins
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:34:27 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


I had read a lot of positive stuff about Pantera in this and other
newsgroups so when I visited the States last month, I bought "A Vulgar
Display of Power". But I must admit that I was disappointed. 

Is it just me, or aren`t the guys in Pantera simply trying to be a
biker`s version of the Rollins Band with stereotypical guitar noodling
and less eloquent lyrics ? They even have a pissed-off lead vocalist
with large tattoos. (OK, I am biased - I really like Henry Rollins.)

This is not meant as a flame - all I am saying is that I fail to see
their greatness. 

- Hans
--
Hans H{\"u}ttel                          - hans@iesd.auc.dk  
Mathematics and Computer Science
Aalborg University, Fredrik Bajersvej 7E,
9220 Aalborg, DENMARK                    - Peace sells, but who's buying ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 01:03:26 CDT
From: <U27317@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Sreaching Weasel

Weasel rips.



Mel
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: bmkling@cs.vu.nl (Kling BM)
Subject: DRI new album
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:02:34 GMT

I heard that there was a new album from DRI (reviewed in the latest Metal Hammer)
has anybody heard it yet ?? is it as good as thrash zone ???


Bart

Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: d90-two@musta.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Subject: Re: Just some questions
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:29:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.001134.13619@leland.Stanford.EDU> rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler) writes:
[.....]
>
>Does anyone know anything about Comecon and Samael? They're both on Century
>Media but I've never heard anything about them.

Comecon consist of members from Omnitron, a weird Swedish Thash Metal band,
and LG Petrov from Entombed!
Pretty violent Death Metal, from what I have heard.

Samael is a Swiss Death/Black Metal Band. I haven't listened much to them,
but it's... quite heavy, so to speak (What would you expect? :-)

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From: death@buhub.bradley.edu (Dustin Slater)
Subject: Re: Megadeth
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 22:59:57 GMT

In <BvG930.1n5@cs.vu.nl> jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg) writes:

>Now I'm talking about this tour: Pantera is the opening act. Can anybody
>give me a list of stuff they released ( I do know "cowboys from hell" and ....
>shit I forgot, but anyway...) ?

Metal Magic (Metal Magic '83)
Projects in the Jungle (Metal Magic '84)
I am the Night ( Metal Magic '85)
Power Metal ( Metal Magic '86)
Cowboys From Hell ( Atco '90)
Vulgar Display of Power (Atco '92)


They have definately gotten heavier/thrashier as the albums progressed. I
love thier sound now and the intetnsity of it. I saw Love/Hate, Pantera.
Megadeth, and Skid Row (well, i left before skid row) this summer. It was
an intense show. I don't know how it si over there, but here we had a
HUMONGOUS pit during both bands, not to mention the sod fight. It was one
of the best concerts I have seen. And definately the best pit I have been
in. what a great time, what a great show. have fun!!!! 
--
death@buhub.bradley.edu        INEVITABILE FATVM       death@camelot.bradley.edu

             I am waiting for the end of my wide awake nightmare.
From: hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Haw Juin Lin)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: CARCASS: Gods Of Grindcore
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:48:11 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Much agreed...

But I thought that Symphonies of Sickness was their best one ever...

their newer stuff sounds a little weaker than their older stuff. 

I think what I like most about carcass is their macabre almost melodies that are
so much unlike anyone else's....Carcass rules...


Oh BTW....has anybody ever heard of a band called ASSUCK?

or a band called Killing Addiction?

Both very hard death bands. Killing Adiction is on a Euro-label, But Assuck is
on Combat Earache now, I think....
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: jyoung@Cadence.COM (John Young)
Subject: Re: OK, I'M PISSED!!!!!
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:55:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.231824.26742@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tjr0868@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Last July I saw Cannibal Corpse play with Obituary.  Awesome show!  At the
>show Chris Barnes, the singer, announced the release of the new Cannibal
>album "Tomb of the Mutilated".  Naturally, being a mangled and maggot-
>infested fan, I became psyched.  So, the album was due out today, Tuesday.
>And, when I arrived at the record store, the manager told me that the 
>release date had been pushed back to JANUARY 1, 1993!!!!!!  ARGHHHHH!!!!!
>I am getting better though.  This time I was able to resist my natural 
>instinct which was to take my car keys, tear out his eyes, then suck out
>his brains through a straw.  My doctor will be pleased.  But I'm still 
>PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well...I don't where you are but a friend of mine dropped by saturday
night and had a cd of the new one.It sounded good.
Also,I managed to catch the show around here.Cannibal,Obituary,and
Agnostic all tore it up.Malevolent was all right,They've gotten a
bit better since the first time I saw them a couple of years ago.
		Later
		The Pope
From: WK60BUSW@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: WASP and GWAR!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:50:54 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

just to follow up and unleash my disgust - White Zombie isn't with pantera that
I know of.  They are gonna play Bogarts in Cincinnati with Danzig (boo!).  I
don't know if this means they aren't gonna do the Pantera thing but it don't
bode well.
 
GWAR have a new release coming up in a couple of months and I wanna know what
it is gonna be.  BTW they are hitting cinci on oct 29 at bogarts - gonna DIE!!!
 
normy
From: WK60BUSW@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Nocturnus - review request
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:09:56 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Could somebody out there please post a review of their new one?  I really liked
the key and am interested in finding out how they sound on their newbie.
 
thanx in advance
 
normy norm
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: mucds@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Corey D. Stinson)
Subject: Need MANOWAR help!
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:55:50 GMT

(Hope Manowar isn't too mellow for a posting here....)

Help!

  I have heard that the new Manowar CD "Triumph Of Steel" has been
released in Europe?  If this is indeed true, could someone send me
information such as the official title, record company, and any
product numbers necessary to have it imported.  Supposedly it is to be
released in the US on October 13 but in case it isn't, I'd like to have
my local record store import it if possible.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated!! 
			Corey
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: lucasg@jec330.its.rpi.edu (Greg Everett Lucas)
Subject: Possessed!!!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:37:35 GMT


Where is Possessed's "Victims Of Death" CD?  I know it's just a greatest hits 
disc, but what gives with the delayed release?  Perhaps someone might be in the
know at Relativity and tell us what happened to all the great Combat Records
groups...and what the future holds.
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: RE:Rollins vs. Pantera
From: mike@felix.lib.csulb.edu
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:07:54 GMT
Organization: California State University Long Beach Library

For those of you who don't know who Henry ROllins is, well, you should find 
out.  He is a very intelligent guy with intelligent lyrics.  He is an ex-
Black Flag member.  He is very original and has been around for many years.\
I urge any of you to get any of his albums and if you are really interested 
in what he says, you can get his Spoken Word CDs.
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: mfc1493@tamuts.tamu.edu (Michael Frank Caver)
Subject: Re: Pantera vs. Rollins
Organization: ~/lib/organization
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 07:15:18 GMT

>I had read a lot of positive stuff about Pantera in this and other
>newsgroups so when I visited the States last month, I bought "A Vulgar
>Display of Power". But I must admit that I was disappointed. 
>
>Is it just me, or aren`t the guys in Pantera simply trying to be a
>biker`s version of the Rollins Band with stereotypical guitar noodling
>and less eloquent lyrics ? They even have a pissed-off lead vocalist
>with large tattoos. (OK, I am biased - I really like Henry Rollins.)
>
>This is not meant as a flame - all I am saying is that I fail to see
>their greatness. 
>
>- Hans

Afraid I can't agree with you there. I've never heard the Rollins Band...
but I think Pantera are highly original...and incredibly heavy on this last
tape! And it's not just because I'm from Texas :)

Ratboy
From: sknezevi@aludra.usc.edu (Steven John Knezevich)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Hardcore in LA area
Date: 30 Sep 1992 14:42:12 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Where is it?

could someone please send me e-mail on the LA Hardcore scene?  What stores
are cool and where can I find out about shows?  Please e-mail me soon
.....I heard that Huntington Beach and OC (Orange County) have a cool scene
but please inform me....thanks.
Peace.....sTevE kneZevicH

send mail to:

knezevic@aludra.usc.edu

or just reply to this group.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Just some questions
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:11:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.033529.2933@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:
>
> I was just wondering
>if there was anyone in the know who could tell me waht is up with another 
>Century Media band called Grave. 

It's out already. It's called You'll Never See.... I don't have a copy yet
and I haven't heard anything about how it sounds.

>know about new stuff for the following bands:

>					        and Suffocation
 Suffocation is presently recording a new album. Don't know its release date.

>
>	Also, has anyone heard the new (well, not so new now) Monstrocity album?

Fast and brutal--really good.


Other info: New Cannibal Corpse is slower than past stuff, but the lyrics
are more explicit than any other lyrics I can think of.

Loudblast has a new one coming out in November.

Presently listening to the Brutal Truth CD. Awesome. One track has backing
vocals by a member of 13 (an all female slowcore band).

Does anyone know anything about Comecon and Samael? They're both on Century
Media but I've never heard anything about them.

chanel
From: crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ernest Crvich)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Just some questions
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:34:11 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <1992Sep29.033529.2933@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:
>if there was anyone in the know who could tell me waht is up with another 
>Century Media band called Grave. They're really great Swedish death and it seems
>they should have a new one out sometime soon. I'm just guessing, but it has been 
>awhile since _Into_the_Grave_ was released. Come to think of it, does anyone

   Hmmm...I guess my foaming-at-the-mouth (well, almost) post about their
new one a few weeks ago passed you by...
   Grave indeed have a new album...it's called "You'll Never See...", and
is really great!  It has approximately the same feel as Into The Grave,
but is definitely not a copy in any sense of the word...they have the same
amount of brutality (the lyrics are pretty stupid, though) and the changes
in tempo are there as well.  But I don't think you'll find yourself saying
"Gee, this sounds just like Into The Grave".  I would highly recommend it.

>					        and Suffocation

   Ah, Suffocation.  I've heard from another Usenet reader (Hey Trav!) that
this band is still together and still playing.  I don't know if they're
recording a new album yet, though.  The sooner the better.  This band is
probably my favorite death band (along with Grave and Entombed), and Effigy
of the Forgotten is an incredible album!  You can be sure I will let this
newsgroup know the day I see a new one from these guys...
-- 
Ernest M. Crvich                       Pressure building inside your head 
crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu               Compression pushing to the red 
general@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu                Limbs are numb, control is lost 
Blacksburg, Virginia                   Bag of blood is about to bust
From: 10703306@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JAMES VINCENT)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Disharmonic Orchestra
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:24:36 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University

Not To Be Undimensional Conscious.

The name says it all...
It's beautiful.
From: newcomb@enews.nrl.navy.mil (Dale Newcomb)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: Re: W.A.S.P. news????
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:29:25 GMT

In article <92274.124346IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu>, IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
|> Anyone know what's going on with wasp?
|> any album news?
|> anything?
|> IBA100

They just played a club called Hammerjacks a few weeks ago in Baltimore, MD. I don't
know if they were promoting a new album, or just out to have fun. HJ's is a smaller
club so they might be just out to jam. Dunno for sure.
					
					Dale

P.S. To answer my own post of a while back...Megadeth and Suicidal Tendencies are starting
their tour any day now, thay'll be in the Maryland area in early November. Still haven't
heard about Pantera/White Zombies tour dates but Faith No More and Helmet (I know there not
thrash groups but FNM is awesome) are on tour right now (in Maryland in mid October). I'll
keep updating when I hear things, and please add any info you might have.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:43:46 EDT
From: <IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: W.A.S.P. news????

Anyone know what's going on with wasp?
any album news?
anything?
IBA100
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: rancid@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chanel Wheeler)
Subject: Re: Tiamat's sound?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:35:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.065239.6338@kth.se> d90-two@czarny.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>They sound like nothing else... Most of the songs on that album are quite slow,
>compare to the Death Metal standards. The sound is kind of "weak", with a
>rather harmless quitar and some keyboards thrown in here and there.
>Definitly no massive guitar wall of sound. The singer growls, or sometimes
>almost speaks, and the vocals are not distorted or pitched or anything at all. 
>Also, their next album should be out any day now... what is Century Media
>doing?

Yeah, the above description sounds pretty accurate. I just got their new
album--Clouds. The Century Media guy says it's supposed to be in stores
in a few weeks. I like Tiamat alot, but I think this one is weaker than
their second album (I've never heard their first one). Clouds is very much
in the same style as the second one. It'll probably grow on me as I listen
to it more (I'm always slightly disappointed at first). I say if you're
really into Tiamat, get it; if you're just starting get the second one
over this one.

chanel

PS. Whoever you are (and I have my suspicions) that is forwarding my mail 
to a mutual friend, please stop. I don't like being spied on.


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