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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Duke vs. Rutgers
Keywords: December 12, 1992
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:46:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


Duke will play Rutgers December 12, 1992 at the Meadowlands
(NJ) Arena.  RU tried to expand the game into a home-home
committment but Duke wanted to have a one-shot deal.
When you're the National Champion you get your way.
This will be a home-coming for senior (next year) Bobby Hurley.
If you remember, last season Duke played at Buffalo for senior
Christian Laettner.

Rutgers will be improved next year, but not ready for a
defending National Champion, yet.

-- 
"Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@mtfme.att.com)
How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  GONE: Brooklyn Dodgers
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: gs@quintus.com (Georges Saab)
Subject: Re: Poor Announcing By CBS
Organization: Quintus Corporation, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:33:34 GMT

pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil) says:

>One final point, in my heart, I wanted Michigan to win. But logic and my head
>were telling me Duke was going to win.  They had lost before and knew what it
>felt like to lose the championship game.  Also, if Michigan makes it to the 
>finals again, look for them to win.  
	       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is that your head talking, or your heart?

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Net Basketball Talent (was Re: Duke Tourney Observations)
    <kucd15INNs22@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:39:24 GMT
Organization: My Daddy, My Doggy, and Me
X-Bytes: 

In article <kucd15INNs22@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> ma@bluedevil.Eng.Sun.COM (Shing C. Ma) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.184028.6292@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>>
>>This brings up an interesting question:  how good are most of you net.gods
>>at playing basketball?  What types of players are you?  And come on, be
>>honest - no false claims.
>
>I cannot dribble, shoot, pass nor rebound.  I'm slow and I have a
>2in verticle leap.  Other than these deficiencies, I'm a great
>player -- NBA quality. :)
>
As a net pall bearer, I'm not really qualified to answer, but I will anyway.
I'm a spasmo pure and simple. I fell in love w/ the game watching (listening
to, actually) Jerry Lucas hit hook shots over Terry Dischinger (spelling?) in
1961 and 1962. I could hit the nearest waste basket with a balled up sock
while listening to the game. That's all she wrote.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>  
You know, there's many a damned fool woulda swallered that.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: bolton-b@sparc.ncsu.edu (Bennie)
Subject: Re: WAS LAETTNER EVEN IN THE LAST 17 MINUTES LAST NIGHT???
Reply-To: bolton-b@sparc.ncsu.edu (Bennie)
Organization: North Carolina State University SPARC Project
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:53:51 GMT

dtk@teer30.acpub.duke.edu (DEVENDRA KUMAR) writes:

> Pretty gutsy stuff coming from a tool who goes to a poor excuse of a
school that
> lost by 35 to us earlier this year.  DUKE HAS WON BACK_TO_BACK
NATIONAL
> CHAMPIONSHIPS! It doesn't matter what you think, since you don't
> decide who gets the national championship -- our team decided that!!!

Yeah, after you lost by the BIGGEST MARGIN EVER IN THE FINAL GAME OF THE
NCAA TOURNAMENT to UNLV in 1990, final score: 103-73.  YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!

PLUS, YOU SHOULD HAVE LOST TO KENTUCKY.  LUCKY SHITS!

AT LEAST TOM GUGLIOTTA CAN MAKE IT BACK DOWN THE COURT!!!

GO WOLFPACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bennie (Avie's cousin)
From: ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Duke vs iu
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:11:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

The real story about what happened during the Duke iu game on Saturday wasn't
picked up by CBS (no surprise).  It is a story that explains why Duke won the
game.  It has nothing to do with the officiating or anything else.  When Duke
got down by 10 points, Coach K bolted for the locker room to use the phone.
Who did he call ?  Why Gene Keady of course.  He asked Keady what his Duke 
team needed to do to beat iu since Purdue was the last team to beat iu.  After
he returned to the bench and started using what Gene had told him, the rest
was history.  I'm surprised that nobody else saw this or picked up on it.

later,
			---Mark

p.s.  Just as I thought, Not one article about any embarassing actions by the
Purdue coaching staff.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: laura@sdd.hp.com (Laura Mansfield)
Subject: Re: LAETTNER COMMITS NCAA VIOLATIONS (NO JOKE!)
Reply-To: laura@sdd.hp.com (Laura Mansfield)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:23:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.142154.25414@ncsu.edu>, alester@fire.ncsu.edu (avie) writes:
|> 
|> i'm fortunate in that i get to attend a school which abides by ncaa
|> regulations... unlike those dukies who have to cheat to win!
|> 
|> Avie

Like him selling his diary to GQ helped them to win. NOT!  
It does show, however that he was willing to jeopardize his team and 
Coach K. and a national championship for money and his own gain.
Duke has been my team for the last 7 years, and I'm totally stoked for
them finally winning and doing it for two years in a row, but it stinks
when their players display such attitudes.  (Like Danny Ferry giving up
playing in the NBA to play in France just because of more money -
whatever!!)

Laura Mansfield
Hewlett Packard
San Diego Printer Division
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 1993 Tip-Off Classic
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:46:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr10.134627.2028
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <54204@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>It was mentioned in the Atlanta newspapers this morning that
>Georgia Tech has agreed to play in the 1993 Tip-Off Classic
>(the game which starts the season), against an opponent to
>be named later.  The 1992 Tip-Off Classic will be played by
>Connecticut and (I believe) Purdue.

You are correct, sir!  [heh, heh, heh]    We Purdue fans are anticipating
this one, since it will hopefully be the debut of Glen Robinson, (I forget
his first name) Williams, and maybe even Porter Roberts.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: knight out at IU
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:22:59 GMT
	<1992Apr10.114638.5669@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr10.114638.5669@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> william sadler <wsadler@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:

Say, didn't you play Death in "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey"?

Sorry, folks, back to the thesis . . .
--
____________________________
	Jim Oliver  
	oliver@athena.mit.edu /	joliver@hstbme.mit.edu
	oliver%mitwccf.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
From: hartigse@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Hartig)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 1987 Iowa Hawkeyes
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:14:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr4.101756.12985@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>  What happened to .... ?

>	Mark Jewell - transferred to Evansville and sucked.
>	Al Lorenzen - played in the CBA for awhile. 

Don`t know about the rest.
>
>	Anyone know?
>
>	Jazzy J
>
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|  "I am human and I need to be loved,            | Jazzy J                   |
>|   just like everybody else does..." - The Smiths| jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu | 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

_______________________________________________________

Scott E. Hartig
Purdue University Schools of Engineering
West Lafayette, IN


"The sum of the world's intelligence is a constant.....
                ....the population is growing"       

                        -H.L Mencken


GO HOOSIERS!!!!!

_____________________________________________________
From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The NCAA controls college basketball
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:27:38 GMT
Reply-To: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <204493@unix.cis.pitt.edu> rjones+@pitt.edu (Randy Jones) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.202058.20839@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>|	                                    I knew that last season, there
>|	was NO WAY UNLV was going to repeat as champions.  Absolutely NO WAY.
>|	I mean, if they had repeated, it would have been a total slap in the
>|	NCAA's face.  I was dead surprised that UNLV was even allowed to win
>                                                              ^^^^^^^
>|	in the 1st place in 1990; I know the NCAA cringed mightily giving the
>|	championship trophy to Tarkanian....
>|


>Would you care to speculate on HOW the NCAA carries out this evil agenda?

Back in 1987, when UNLV, IU, Syracuse, and Providence all descended on the
SuperDome in Nawlins, earstwhile Texas coach, Abe Lemons, made an interesting
prediction: "There's no way that the NCAA is going to let UNLV win this
thing; read my lips: OFFICIATING!" Now, I'm not saying that the quotable
Mr. Lemons new something that no one else knew, but it's worthwhile to note
that even longtime Rebel-basher and SI columnist, Curry Kirkpatrick, made
the post-tournament observation that several "phantom fouls" (his words)
were called on UNLV late in the semi-final game with IU which really took
the Rebels out of it. 


I know it's stretching it to think that the NCAA can control a game's
outcome via officiating on national t.v.; however, don't *ever* 
underestimate the hate those guys had for Tark. If you've ever worked
for a regulatory agency (and that's *all* the NCAA is), you know that
it's comprised of people, like you and me, who can let certain "cases"
become very personal.....the deal between UNLV and the NCAA became
a personal fight between individuals, not just institutions. 

...Al
w.a. mckay
desert research institute
reno, nevada
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: mjo@b24a.ingr.com (M.Jesus.O at Beat)
Subject: Re: question about MIchigan '89??
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:44:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.224059.39042@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, rsl06@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> Gotta quick question....
> who were the starters on the Michigan team that won it in '89?
> also, was'ne there a guy who went pro after that year-his sophomore-
> I think (besides rice and Robinson)...

I think that team was:

Glenn Rice        - now with the Miami Heat
Rumeal Robinson   - Atlanta Hawks
Terry Mills       - New Jersey Nets
Sean Higgins      - Orlando Magic (he's the onbe who left two years early)
Loy Vaught        - Sacramento or Golden St., can't ever remeber for sure

M.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: daves@meaddata.com (Dave Spencer)
Subject: Bearcat pride...
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:35:24 GMT
Distribution: na


Let it be said that at least one Cincinnati fan has enough pride to
say:

Congratulations Michigan! It was a great game. Hopefully we'll see you
again next year too...

In the meantime, go out and kick some Puke, er, Duke ass for us (we
would).

And lastly, congratulations and thanks U.C. Bearcats for a great
season! You should be proud....I know I am!



-- 
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                            |  \/___________/  |_|    \________\/ |_|  o cats!
From: x90townsen12@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: WOLVERINE'S can PLAY the game!
Date: 5 Apr 92 14:16:34 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

The Wolverines can talk the game, but can they play the game?

Believe me, they can PLAY the game!

Now there's only one last team to convince.

Duke is goin' down!
From: alan@acpub.duke.edu (Alan M. Gallatin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Laettner Bashing....
Keywords: taking things out of context...
Date: 5 Apr 92 05:40:35 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Apr2.220916.21069@ncsu.edu> rpierre@fire.ncsu.edu misquoted
and outright lied about what he fallaciously believed to be...
>The truth [] about Christian Laettner in a revealing article
     ^^^^^?????
>in the local rag (Raleigh News and Observer).

>Also, the article states that Christian has some mental problems, also. 

The article never said that!!

>The article says he is obssesed with competitiveness.  He even gets upset
>at his girlfriend when she beats him at a video game and constantly demands
>rematches.  Even with his friends, his obsession doesn't even allow him
>to enjoy a simple bowling match.

You sure know how to take things out of context.  Sure he's competitive,
but he still enjoys the bowling - of course, he usually wins!

>As for Laettner's girlfriend, she uses words like "cocky","intimidating",
>and "...on a high horse..." to describe him and also says 
>"...he just knocked me down...".

How about filling in the elipses?  You forgot to mention that she talked
about how he wouldn't have gotten where he is without some of these
attributes... that he's earned the right to be cocky.. and that she
loves him for it!

>                                  The article says that Lenore Davis,
>is a sophomore at the University of Georgia, but I read in People Magazine
>that Laettner had a girlfriend at UNC.  Hmmmm....  perhaps a two-timer also.  

If you're going to quote an article, quote all of it!!!!  The article
addressed the People Magazine goof - one which even People Magazine
acknowledged was a typo!!!!!!  If you're going to rag on Laettner, at
least don't go spreading lies!

>And Laettner is not very praise-worthy of his teammates either. 
>He states that Duke would not have won the Kentucky game without him
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^??????
>because his teammates "were scared to take the last shot."

He took the shot no one else wanted - that's not failing to be
praiseworthy - just admitting to some more cockiness - Cockiness which
won Duke a crucial game, so he's more than entitled to it!

>This article does not look very good on his part, not at all.

For all the crap Laettner has taken behind his back in this damn
newsgroup, the article vindicated him!!!

DUKE REPEAT MONDAY NIGHT....     YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- 
               Alan M. Gallatin <alan@hercules.acpub.duke.edu>
                  Duke University School of Law; Durham, NC
 "The opinions expressed here belong to you - You just don't know it yet!!!"
From: oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Chris Mills - backdoor man
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:55:09 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

The lady in question wouldn't happen to be someone T-Bone knows, would it?
--
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	oliver@athena.mit.edu /	joliver@hstbme.mit.edu
	oliver%mitwccf.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Who was Indiana's Mr. Basketball
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:06:35 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

As the post asked, who was Mr. Basketball in Indiana this year?  The Macon
dude in Michigan City that's going to TOSU?  I read earlier that McCarty
from Evansville (Kentucky-bound) finished 2nd.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Gritter's Purdue Hoop Scoop
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:27:52 GMT


	It is being reported this morning by the "voice" of Purdue sports,
	Larry Clisby, that Travis Trice will be transfering away.  This
	will make room for new recruit Porter Roberts, who will apparently
	sign this week.  Clisby got his information from the Princeton, IN,
	radio station (that's Trice's hometown).  The Indianapolis Star
	this morning also has a story concerning this...

	I'd hate to see Trice leave.  I'd prefer one of the lead-footed
	players to leave...  ;-)
-- 
-------------------------------
| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
From: abreen@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alex Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 1992 Illini thoughts.
Keywords: Kaufman, Keefe, Thomas, Michael, Wheeler, Pierce...
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:14:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr10.191412.15218
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL) writes:
>	Well, since the 1991 season is over, it's time to begin discussing
>	next years teams. Since I went to Illinois, and there seems to
>	be some interest in the Illini on the net, I feel we should 
>	talk about the Illinois team. The following are my thoughts:

>	3) Big Ten.
>		I look for the Illini to win more close games than they 
>		lose, and finish with 20+wins, and end up third in the
>		Big ten. The experience of last year, and the return of 
>		Kauf should make this much difference.

     Third in the Big Ten?  That would be truely amazing!  Think of the teams
that will be in the Big Ten next year.         
     Indiana - Has to be the favorite.
     Michigan - A close second.
     Ohio State - They lose some guards but are still loaded.
     Iowa - Acie is back along with many others
     Michigan State - Respert may become a true star.
     Penn State - Beat Illinois last two years.
     Purdue - Always tough and should get that Prop 48 ( I forget his name).
     
     Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Northwestern - OK Illinois should beat them.

Don't get me wrong.  I love Illinois, but the best they can hope for is about
fifth!
>	4) The Tourney.
>		Illinois will be seeded 7th in the west, will beat
>		Ball St. in the first round, and lose to Florida St. in
>		the second round. (Ok, this is overboard but what the hell)

     I would guess a 6th seed and a first round loss to Austin Peay

>	5) Overall.
>		A good year, back to 20+ wins for Lou.

     A good year is not a 20 win season.  It is two victories over Iowa!


>	What does everyone think? Any news on recruits out there? Did
>	Kaufman get his GPA up? How does Keefe look? Will he play?

     Keene has looked good at times and fair other times.  Even if Kaufman
is able to play, he may not knowing how Lou has sat him down in the past.
I really don't think you should look at Kaufman as a savior for this team.
What the team needs is the quick and rapid maturing of the current starters.
-- 
Alexander Breen                      | Chill out, the network isn't down,  
abreen@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu              | it is just asleep. 
Agricultural Engineering Department  ----------------------------------------
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (Where Else?)
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: BBall stuff. (Syracuse, All-Rookie team)
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:58:51 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, fernande@nova.ccrs.emr.ca (Nick Fernandes) 
writes:
>
>I'd like to give my All-Rookie team for the past season.
>This does not include Prop 48's.
>
>            Lawrence Moten  Syracuse
>            Jalen Rose      Michigan
>            Chris Webber    Michigan
>            Alan Henderson  Indiana
>            ??????????????  ????????
>
>I know that the other 3 from the Fab5 are outstanding players,
>but did they have the numbers?
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Exactly what are you looking for?  A freshman who got to play a lot 
mainly and got their numbers just because his team didn't have better 
players?  This would be biased against freshmen who happen to be on 
great teams like Duke's Cherokee Parks who is on the NCAA Championship 
team.

Cherokee Parks is definitely developing into a great player. He has
been practicing with an All-American player, Christian Laettner, and
has shown some brilliant moves in the Final Four games.

Is it fair not to include his name in the above list just because he 
doesn't have the numbers to show for his development - just because
Duke just happens to have another great player in the same position?

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Steve Williams
swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center