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From: TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: German train schedules: Frankfurt to Dusseldorf
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:52:01 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet, Duesseldorf
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In article <1992Nov10.063458.16112@wam.umd.edu> gurd@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck) writes:

>Anybody familiar with DB rail schedules, I need schedule/fare information for
>service between the Frankfurt airport and Dusseldorf.  My mother is attending a  
>conference in Dusseldorf and does not want to rent a car, she will be arriving  
>on a morning flight from Washington Dullus to Frankfurt arriving at 7:30 AM ...  
>on Monday November 30, any information about morning schedules and fares will  
>be appreciated.

Direct connections by regular train (InterCity / EuroCity):

train no.                 IC739    IC822    IC524    IC620    EC 28
Frankfurt Airport dep     07.04    10.04    11.04    13.04    16.04
Duesseldorf       arr     09.31    12.31    13.31    15.31    18.31

[Hereabouts the 24-hour system is used!  15.31 = 3.31 pm]

If your mom doesn't mind changing trains, she can go at hourly intervals
(8.04, 9.04, ...; corresponding train will line up at the same platform). 
I mention the later trains because I experienced substantial delays on 
transatlantic flights some time ago ...

There is also a special Lufthansa train from Frankfurt to Duesseldorf:

train no.                 LH1002   LH1006
Frankfurt Airport dep     09.20    17.20
Duesseldorf       arr     11.51    19.51

It doesn't run in between; you need a regular flight ticket to use this
train (railway tickets are not accepted).

Based upon what I paid for a ticket two months ago, I would estimate
~ DM 70 (~$50) for a 2nd and ~ DM 100 (~$70) for a 1st class ticket.
(This includes a supplementary fare of DM 6 for IC/EC trains; seat
reservation is free.)

I post this information rather than e-mail it so that other readers of
this newsgroup can correct/supplement this if necessary.

Mail me if you need any additional information (e.g. about public 
transport around Duesseldorf).

Hope that helps.
--
Detlef Lannert      DC3EK      E-Mail: tsos@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
"Gedanken sind nicht stets parat,
man schreibt auch, wenn man keine hat."             Wilhelm Busch
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: bunce@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Container Tank blueprints wanted.
Organization: Lockheed Engineering and Sciences
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:03:59 GMT

Howdy, Y'all  (Texan for hello)

I would like to scratch build some tank or flat containers for my scratch built
N scale container cars, but I can't find any good photos, blueprints, or
whatever.
 
Does anyone have a picture they can scan and mail as a GIF or as a Macintosh
PICT or even better as a MacDraw drawing, or as a last resort snail-mail?

I have searched the databases for MR, RMJ, Trains, Prototype Modeler(?) for
containers and found only plans for container railcars. I saw a picture in
Trains a few months back of a flat container with a shifted load of lumber, but
it wasn't big enough or clear enough to make a model from it. I also went to
the library and looked for books and found the _Car and Locomotive Cyclopedia_,
but it was from '84 and had no containers listed :( and only the Thrall
container car.

I have seen the containers go by on the highway between Galveston and Houston,
but they were going the opposite direction and I could never get a good long
look to even attempt to reproduce one from memory.

Who makes the containers anyway? I know Thrall and Gunderson make container
cars. Anyone else make container cars?  I saw a set of cars at the Houston Belt
and Terminal RR yard a few weeks ago with smooth sides as opposed to the Thrall
rib sided cars. I can't remember the road name, it wasn't a railroad, but
rather a leasing co. like APL or Trailer Train. Anyone know what I am talking
about? I want blueprints of these too :)

If I ever get a camera I'll be able to document the things I see and not
clutter the net with requests for data, but rather post with information to
share. :)

thanks a bunch.


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From: wadams@spitz.ECE.CMU.EDU (William Adams)
Subject: Re: U.S. railroad maps (topo maps)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:25:23 GMT

[USGS maps in railfanning]

A day or so ago I mildly slammed USGS maps as generally out of date, but 
a recent post has pointed out their value when concerned with a small
area.  The 7.5 minutes series USGS topos will show every single track
that existed (at the time it was made).  Even yards are exhaustingly
mapped and turntables, water towers, engine sheds are also included.

	Bill
	wadams@faraday.ece.cmu.edu
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: maps
Date: 5 Nov 1992 07:33:32 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


Another possibility, at least in California: there are a couple of books
"Northern California Atlas & Gazetteer" and "Southern..." covering
California, published by DeLorme Mapping Co.  Also available, it says
on the back cover, and Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, New York State,
Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Washington.  Coming soon Wisconsin.
This is 126 pages of maps and cost $12.95 in a local bookstore.
The scale is 1:150,000, so it doesn't show the level of detail you
get in the 1:24,000 maps from the Coast & Geodetic Survey or whatever
its name is now; but at ten cents a page it's a lot cheaper.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can argue all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
From: johna@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (john.a.welsh)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Misspelling of "Amtrak" (was Re: Metroliners)
Summary: More Am....'s
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:34:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1992Nov5.153416.3425
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T



My favorite is the Am-McMuffin.  I forget where I read this one,
but I do remember ordering an Am-McMuffin on the Broadway as we
headed for the Horseshoe Curve, and the attendant knew that I
meant a Bacon & Egger.  I probably got pegged as a Glazer for
that one (if the Foamer - Glazer - FLiM designations existed
then).
Bathrooms have been called AmCans
Hi-rail vehicles Amtrucks
Here is one that I just thought of - Amburgers (with or without cheese).
                          John Welsh
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt)
Subject: Amtrak's Burbank Airport Station
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:46:55 GMT


Here's an article from Caltrans' "Making Tracks":

Burbank Airport Stop Reconstruction Start

Burbank's Airport Rail Station, which has been closed since October
1991, will soon reopen, following a California Transportation Commission
allocation of $1,794,000 in Proposition 108 rail bonds to reconstruct
the station.

Burbank Station, a major California link between rail and air travel,
was originally established in June 1990 when Amtrak's first San Diegan
Santa Barbara train began stopping there.  In October 1990, a second San
Diegan Santa Barbara train began service, also making the stop at Burbank
Airport.

The service was an immediate success.  In just over a year, the station
surpassed the performance of more than a dozen California Amtrak
stations, including some that had been in service nearly 20 years.
Ridership totaled 7,115, generating about $133,000 in revenue.  But in
October 1991, service was suspended and the station platform removed to
allow construction of a second track for Metrolink commuter train
service beginning this fall.

The Burbank Airport station is an excellent site for a successful
air-rail travel station.  The platform is closer to the terminal gates
than parking spaces are at most other airports (approximately 200
yards), and Burbank Airport provides some of the lowest airline fares in
the Los Angeles basin.  The Airport Station also offers intercity rail
passengers a very high level of support services including long term
secured parking, car rental agencies and door-to-door van services.

The design for the new Airport Station is "state of the art" for an
unstaffed facility.  The new platform provides direct passenger access
to the parking area and the airport terminals and full handicapped
accessibility.

While the Airport Station will primarily serve travelers from outside
the region, the City of Burbank has plans for a station of its own to
serve local commuter trips to downtown Los Angeles and incoming commuter
trips to downtown Burbank.

The station reconstruction project is expected to begin in October 1992
and be completed in December 1992.

<end of article>

-- 

Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
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ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: sdejour@mksol.dseg.ti.com (stewart l dejournett)
Subject: Re: Railroad Computer program...
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:42:42 GMT

In article <oe5TTB1w165w@railnet.nshore.ORG> eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel) writes:
>zephyr@cory.Berkeley.EDU (COIFMAN) writes:
>
>> In article <1992Nov5.111255.8177@walter.cray.com> rl@ferris.cray.com (Randy L
>> >  I was looking back through some old magazines and
>> >I saw this in the September 1984, Model Railroader
>> >page 131, lower right corner.
>> >
>> >give the telephone number a call, but if someone in
>> >the U.S (maybe Pittsburg?) wants to try first I
>> >SEND TO: Signal Computer Consultants, LTD.
>> >         P.O Box 18222
>> >         Pittsburg, PA   15236
>> >         (412) 655-7727
>
>I happen to be a legitimate owner of Railroad Dispatcher, and have had it 
>for quite a few years.  However, my version is for the PC.  A couple of 
>years ago, the company closed down due to lack of sales.  I haven't the 
>vaguest idea where you might obtain new copies anymore.  Signal may be 
>still there in Pittsburgh, but I know that I received quite a bit of 
>literature when they were trying to clear out their inventory.
>eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
>Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

At a train meet this last weekend I just bought the Train Dispatcher and
Track Builder both are dated 1985.  In looking through the ducumentation 
several additional names are mentioned.  Maybe someone in Pittsburg could
check them out?  The names Thomas B Levine and Vernon L Hanson are mentioned
in relationship to the copyright.  Also PURVIS systems inc is mentioned.

 If the company is out of business is it legal to post the programs ??

On a different note I saw an add in Trains for The Trainmaster interactive
train simulation for $75 from Corporate Strategies 1-800-969-0560 I have
the literature but would like to here from someone to see if it is worth
the $75 price tag?? The add said it was a very popular program so I hope
someone has used it.


Thanks for any help on Trainmasters
stewart
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Subject: Re: Hopping trains for a ride
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:11:28 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


This is not an exact answer - but FYI. In Pueblo, Colorado, where I do a
good deal of train watching (railfanning) I often see vagrants hitch
rides on southbound trains.

Specifically, trains leaving one of the yards (can't remember the name"
just about always have to stop at a block signal.  These are primarily
BN (Burlington Northern) south bound unit coal trains. Which have 5+
locomotives at the front. I've repeatedly seen 2-5 hobos/vagrants get on
the last locomotive and sit up in the cab like they owned the place. I
even asked the engineer once (he in the cab, me outside the window on
the ground chatting) about them and he didn't seem to care. Obviously he
saw them board the train...... I always thought about joining them and
riding the train say as far as Trinidad or something like that and then
getting a ride home.

I wonder what the fine is if you get caught - trespassing?


Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: Joe.Russ <Joe.Russ@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: ICC gives WC preliminary approval to buy GB&W
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:43:08 GMT


It's sad, but true, but according to the 11/10/92 Milwaukee Journal,
the ICC has given preliminary approval to the Wisconsin Central to buy
the GB&W and FRVR. However, the ICC also voted to exted job protection
to the employees of the two lines. The final formal opinion, which
will be given by Dec. 10, is expected to be the same as this one.
 
So, since WC's president, Ed Burkhardt, can't lay off workers, I
wonder what will happen to the union? 
 
Looks like the ICC doesn't mind monoplies, either.
   Joe R.
-- 
Joe.Russ@mixcom.com
WISE Div., NMRA
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: johnm@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com (John Mosbarger)
Subject: Re: Misspelling of "Amtrak" (was Re: Metroliners)
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 14:29:15 GMT

Dave Pierson (pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com) wrote:
: In article <jwj2.16.720839532@po.CWRU.Edu>, jwj2@po.CWRU.Edu (Jermaster)
: writes..
: 
: >In article <122200174@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> wbrill@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Warren Brill)
: writes:
: >>This could get re-e-e-a-a-a-l-l-ly ugly:
: 
: >>            And if Amtrak starts selling souvenir backpacks,
: >>            would they be Ampacks or...
: >>            And would your Amsna(c)k be in an Amsack or...
: >>            If the caboose came back, would it be an Amhack or...
: >>            Do you put your baggage on an Amrack or...
: >Or if Amtrak started playing heavy metal on its trains, would it be called
: >Amthrax?
: 
: 	Uhuh.  Some years ago i was exploring Cleveland, Ohio, AMTRAK station.
: 	I realized the green things around it must be AMbushes.  Have you
: 	noticed how many railfans are AMbivalent about the AMbling speeds
: 	AMTRAK achieves?
: 	8)>>
: thanks
: dave pierson
: Maynard, Mass		01754	pierson@msd27.enet.dec.com
: "He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles

     If one uses the restroom, either in the station or on the train, are
they taking an Amdump?  Or Amcrap?  Or Amleak?  My god, the possibilities
are endless :-)

John

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Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji)
Subject: Re: Why do New England Express trains slow down...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:18:48 GMT

In article <lg2sgqINNhg9@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
>...when passing through certain stations that they do
>not stop at, such as Stamford and Bridgeport, Connecticut?
>
>Seems like they could gain 10 minutes or more on their
>schedules if they zoomed through these stations at full speed
>instead of crawling through them at what seemed like 20 mph.

Well, it slows down at Bridgeport because of the nasty curve and a
very shaky bridge right next to the station. That bridge is supposed
to the one that is in the worst condition of all the bridges on the
NEC. They are working on it, trying to stabilize it.

I don't know the exact reason for slowing down at Stamford. It may be
temporarily because of electrification catenary conversion work, or
because they have started working on changing the track layout at
Stamford. I would also expect that it slows down a lot through New
Rochelle because of CP Shell and all the re-alignemnt of tracks that
is to take place at that interlocking, including the construction of a
flyover in the near future (if that work has begun that is).

I do not believe that there are any township imposed speed limits on
the NEC. Amtrak managed to get exemptions from those under the
inter-state commerce clause sometime back anyway, so if it chooses to
ignore them it can just go ahead and do so. Of course, sometimes it
chooses not to do so because of public relations or genuine safety
reasons, but I doubt that Amtrak would yield to that kind of pressure
on the NEC where it is otherwise safe to operate at high speeds. It
has yielded to community pressure on the Atlantic City Line in the
past as an example. 

Jishnu Mukerji
jis@usl.com
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: Joe.Russ <Joe.Russ@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Railroad Computer program...
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 18:46:29 GMT


RE: Train Dispatcher
 
I got the game back in early 1990 to run on my Mac SE/30. I ordered it
through an ad in MR which said they were discontinuing it. The disk
went bad on me and they replaced it without any problem, though.
 
As for the game, it's OK, not that realistic. They condense an
eight-hour shift into about 20 minutes. You really don't have any time
to think about what's going on and using the train sheets. In all,
it's not a very indepth game.
 
BTW, I now play at the top level - Trainmaster. And even there, I
sometimes get penalized for getting all the trains out of my division
a half-hour early. :)
     Joe R.
-- 
Joe.Russ@mixcom.com
WISE Div., NMRA
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Subject: Re: compound locos (was Re: High Speed Rail Query)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:54:11 GMT

	A couple of feetnotes to the condensing engine discussion:
	The Russians, and I think, one of the Scandanvian countries had goodly
	sized fleets.

	Also, boiler "water" was sometimes treated with various chemistry, to
	make it easier on the boiler.  Typically, this took out various nasties
	in the local water.  Condensate, having been boiled once, was purer, and
	easier on the boiler...

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
146 Main St			|I am the NRA.
Maynard, Mass		01754	pierson@msd27.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: FBCB@iunsys.iun.indiana.edu
Subject: ATSF CW's (865) and UP SD60M's (6365)
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:38:01 CST
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New UP and ATSF cabs are now all on their respective railroads. The
final units should have just gone through at the time of this posting.

Santa Fe C40-8W's delivered on Conrail train ELSF:

10/31 (CR 6414, CR 6304, CR 6416, ATSF 851, ATSF 849, ATSF 5814)
11/05 (ATSF 5192, ATSF 5387, ATSF 5317, ATSF 5129, ATSF 863, ATSF 861)
11/08 (ATSF 2832, ATSF 2343, ATSF 2727, ATSF 2351, ATSF 865)

UP SD60M's come through via CP Rail train 505.

10/29 (SOO 6409, CP 4207, UP 6360)
11/06 (CP 5542, SOO 4440, UP 6365)

Dave Chary
(fbcb@iunsys.iun.indiana.edu)
From: rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Misspelling of "Amtrak" (was Re: Metroliners)Y
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:45:04 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

gemmellj@merrimack.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.191533.6177@gw.wmich.edu>, x92ochs1@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>> In article <lfipggINNahd@news.bbn.com>, rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:
>>> Seriously....
>>> 
>>> how did the National Rail Passenger Corporation ever
>>> get the name "Amtrak" anyway?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
>> 
> I think I heard that a Canadian advertising agency came up with
>the name AMTRACK..  If it is true then I wonder why any US agencies could
>not come up w/ a name for the NPRC that was simular to the Canadian proposal.

In one of the recent onboard magazines (I think that's where I saw this)
the explaination for the name Amtrak was AMerican TRAvels on tracK. 

Now that I think of it, maybe I saw this in PTJ....

Anyway, my $0.02.

-- Dan Meyer

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Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: ICE trains withdrawn in October?
Summary: Bang!
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 10:01:36 GMT

A few days ago I was in a pub here in Toronto, where the management
had posted in the men's washroom some pages from the *October 9* issue,
or thereabouts, of the (London, England) Daily Telegraph.  In this
paper was a short article about a problem on the Deutsche Bundesbahn's
ICE trains.  It seems that one of them had developed vibrations in
one of its drive motors so severe that the motor rotor came apart!
The article said that all 50-odd ICE train sets were withdrawn from
service.

I don't recall hearing anything about this in rec.railroad.  Are the
facts as I have recalled them from the article correct?  Have the trains
been put back into service yet, and if so, at what speed?  And, perhaps
most interesting of all... what were conditions like for DB inter-city
passengers in the period just after the withdrawal?
-- 
Mark Brader, SoftQuad Inc., Toronto	"Information! ... We want information!"
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com				-- The Prisoner

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