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From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: Winword -- changin licensed to name
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:34:50 GMT

gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Andy Gardner) writes:

>To stop WinWord (and Excel) from writing user data to the install
>diskettes, write prptect Disk #1 before you start the install.

>When Winword tries to write the info to disk #1, it will report the
>write protect.  Tell it to cancel and it tries again.  Tell it to
>cancel once more and it gives up in disgust and continues with
>the installation.  Too easy!

One day Microsoft will have a standard installation program for its
various products.  Until then you can't predict how any given setup
program will work.

I've lost track of just which Windows setup program does what if it 
encounters a write-protected diskette when it wants to write back
the license information.  Among the responses I've seen:

  - Some programs will keep trying to write each time you click "RETRY",
    and abort the installation when you click "CANCEL" on the dialog
    box reporting that the disk is write-locked;

  - Some programs quietly continue the installation programs after
    you click "CANCEL", or make a second attempt to write to the
    disk (getting another dialog box where you click "CANCEL").

  - Some programs (I think the MS TrueType font pack is one) give a
    wholly misleading error message dialog when you click "CANCEL" but
    continue a valid installation regardless.

Just do the installation from your backup copies of the distribution disks
and you'll have an uncontaminated master from which you can rebuild the
code with a different registered name.

Joe Morris / MITRE
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: matthew@cs.mun.ca (Matthew J. Newhook)
Subject: NCSA telnet under windows
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:41:04 GMT

Since I posted the original article, I got a reply from this saintly fellow
who gave me a bit of helpful advice that worked.  Here is his reply:

Matthew


matthew@cs.mun.ca (Matthew J. Newhook):
> Hello:
>     Has anyone gotten kermit 3.11 to work under windows 3.1 with DECnet?
>     It works just fine under DOS, but if I run it under windows, windows
>     simply crashes.  I followed all directions, such as lock application
>     memory, etc. etc.  I also have the same problem with NCSA telnet, this
>     also craps out.   I feel that it must have something to do with windows
>     3.1, since they both work under windows 3.0.

I was sorry to hear the rude response from whatsisname about Kermit.
It does work relatively slowly for file transfers, but the price is
right.  If you're trying NCSA Telnet, you're in the same low-cost boat
we're in.  FTP on NCSA seems to work in the 50-80 kbyte/sec range,
depending on which machine we connect to.  We use both packages for
TCP/IP connections to Suns, Convexes and VAXes here.

We haven't figured out how to post and respond to the news, only how
to read it, so please post this if you see fit.

We had the same problem with both packages (Kermit and NCSA), until we
came across a package called pktmux11 (perhaps in version 1.2 now),
available from wuarchive (.wustl.edu, 128.252.135.4) in
mirrors/msdos/pktdrvr.  This allows us to open a telnet connection in
a Windows sub-window (not limited to full-screen), with other tasks
running in the background.  This used to be a guaranteed short-cut
back to DOS.  In our vanilla usage, there have been no unexplained
crashes of PC or of telnet appls in several person-months of usage.
We have experienced only one problem: all of the NCSA utils leave the
packet-driver "sockets" busy after termination, which means you must
force them un-busy with the pktmux utils before you may access them
again.  This is really just a nuisance, in my case requiring some work
with batch files to make it work smoothly.

Charley Noecker
noecker@cfa.harvard.edu
-- 
Matthew Newhook (matthew@cs.mun.ca)         |  "...get on with the fascination
Department of Computer Science              |  the real relation, the underlying
Memorial University of Newfoundland, Canada |  theme" - Limelight, Rush
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: ins272u@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Geoff Green)
Subject: telnet for windows?
Organization: Monash University
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Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:56:17 GMT


Is there one out there?
it would be nice.

Geoff.
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From: tgtbtk@tb3.chem.tue.nl (Toine Kuiper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: telnet for windows?
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:26:32 GMT
Reply-To: tgtbtk@chem.tue.nl

ins272u@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Geoff Green) writes:


>Is there one out there?
Yes, LAN Workplace for DOS from Novell has one. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: johne@tule.intel.com (John Elliott)
Subject: Re: Norton Backup for Windows/Stacker
Reply-To: johne@tule.intel.com (John Elliott)
Organization: Software Technology Group, Intel Corp.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 19:48:35 GMT

Stacker provides a disk cache.
smartdrive provides a disk cache.
Two disk cache operations is one two many.

Want to buy the 16 bit stacker AT card?
From: nuspljj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: WinShell external commands
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:32:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.BvD5Ev.1JE
Organization: Purdue University


If anyone has created any external command files for WinShell, please
contact me.  I have written a couple of utilities and I am thinking of
gathering WS files and combining them to upload as a package.  If you
are interested, drop me a line.

Thanks.

Joseph J. Nuspl Jr.
nuspljj@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.)
Subject: Groups in groups?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:54:11 GMT

Is there any way at all that you can make a new group _inside_ of a group?
I hate having small groups like 'sound players', 'file utilities', and etc,
and ending up with around 13 groups, and having to deal with the 'more groups'
thing in the window switching dialog box.

What I'd like to do is make a Utilities group , and inside that, have my
smaller groups.  

Is there any program that can do this?  or am I just not making the new
group correctly?

			Frank Wang
			ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: joelfire@elaine4.Stanford.EDU ( Firehammer)
Subject: Help on PW Plus: Format of WIN.INI entry
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:21:35

I just downloaded the demo of this from cica, and would like to know the formatof its entry in the WIN.INI file, particularly for import and export of files;
that is, how to associate file types with their filters.
Thanks,
joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: dbt3500@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.B. Terpening)
Subject: Re: kermit under windows 3.1
Originator: dbt3500@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: world 
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:05:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.124008.8412@cs.mun.ca> matthew@cs.mun.ca (Matthew J. Newhook) writes:
>    Has anyone gotten kermit 3.11 to work under windows 3.1 with DECnet?
>    It works just fine under DOS, but if I run it under windows, windows
>    simply crashes.  I followed all directions, such as lock application
>    memory, etc. etc.  I also have the same problem with NCSA telnet, this
>    also craps out.   I feel that it must have something to do with windows
>    3.1, since they both work under windows 3.0.
>
>    Any ideas?

I don't mean to sound rude, but why are you using Kermit?  If you are
using DEC's PathWorks software, why not use SETHOST.EXE as your terminal
emulator?  It comes with PathWorks and works a lot better than the
Windows terminal emulator packaged with PathWorks.  Just make sure you
load LAT or CTERM before you load Windows.

If it is file transfers you're looking to perform, DEC provides a Windows
version of NFT that's faster than Kermit any day of the week.  Granted,
you may have to use Kermit to perform file transfers between your PC and
an IBM mainframe or mini, however I've had no problems using NFT to talk
to VMS and Ultrix based systems.


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From: jpaul@locus.com (James Hensley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Winword -- changin licensed to name
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:03:50 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, San Diego

I installed winword 2.0 on a machine here in the office.  I put the name
of our last office manager for the 'licensed to' name.  He's now left, and
the new guy doesn't want the old guy's name on it any more.  I called
gateway tech support (it came bundled with some 486s), and they didn't 
know how to do this.  I can't find it in any manual, either.  I am posing 
the question here before I call the microsoft 900 number.  Any clues

Thanks.
James
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: dpb@a.cs.okstate.edu (D. Paul Benjamin)
Subject: FrameMaker pricing question
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 22:44:10 GMT

I've been trying for weeks to get the educational discount
price for framemaker for windows. I've called and left messages
at frame tech. but nobody ever calls back. Is there anybody out
there who can tell me the price? Thanks in advance.

Paul Benjamin

(P.S. And is there anybody at frame who can tell me why they
      don't return phone calls?)

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor)
Subject: Re: FAXit? Or WinFAX?
Keywords: FAX
Organization: Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 04:23:40 GMT

my@berlioz.nsc.com (Mike Yip) writes:


>Hello,
>	I would like to know which Window FAX software people like.
>I am planning to purchase a FAX/modem card for a 386 PC and I would
>like to run that card in MS Windows.  One card (NUVOTEL 96424IFX) 
>that I looked at includes the FAXit software, but I would like to
>know what people think about the FAXit software.  How does it compare
>to WinFAX (or WinFAX Pro)?  Should I pick a card (althought higher
>price) which includes the WinFAX software?


I have tried both, and I like neither of them.  WinFAX is severely
unreliable, and has signs of sloppy internal design.  FAXit never
worked with my FAX card even though they promised it would, and it 
was very non-robust where features and ergonomics were concerned.

I returned both for refunds.  I plan to try some package from a 
company called Eclipse next -- the description of the product looks
hopeful.

My advise: look beyond both WinFAX and FAXit -- there's GOT to
be something better...

Mark Jeghers

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu (Timothy Keitt)
Subject: Re: POLARIS PACKRAT 4.1
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 16:50:12 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <BvHCBM.1sH@sti.com>, westes@sti.com (Will Estes) writes:
|> In article <t3=p3__@lynx.unm.edu> tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu (Timothy Keitt) writes:
|> >I am considering buying packrat ($99 limited time offer).
|> >Any recommendations, comments? (please be specific about
|> >particular features) Is there anything better? cheaper?
|> 
|> You SMTP server seems to be hopelessly misconfigured.  I tried to send
|> you mail and it looped 30 times and then bounced back to me.  Something
|> in our path is not quite right.
|> 
|> I'll sell you my Packrat 4.0 for only $50, and I'll throw in my Packrat
|> 3.0 manuals for free.
|> -- 
|> Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com

Hmmm... Is that a recommendation?
From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Communications package?
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:13:03 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <6543@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> prpst2+@pitt.edu (Paul R Perdeus) writes:
>Hello all!
>
>      I am looking for advice on a communications package.  I am currently
>      using Kermit v 3.11 and am looking for something a little more
>      sophisticated.  It seems as though the leading contenders these days
>      are Crosstalk Mk 4 and Procomm Plus.  I was hoping for some opinions
>      on these products or any other suggestions.  I have also heard/read
>      that Procomm Plus for Dos is excellent but the Windows version is not
>      quite as good.  Any experiences?  I'd greatly appreciate all responses,
>      either to this newsgroup or via email to the address below.

CHeck out the "Test Drive" version of Procomm Plus.  Available form SIMTEL
as the file PCPLUSTD.ARC.

-- 
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mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: jrh@mustang.dell.com (Randy Howard)
Subject: Re: 386MAX and Windows 3.1?
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:29:15 GMT

jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) writes:

>jrh@mustang.dell.com (Randy Howard) writes:

>>Has anyone installed the 386MAX that comes with the C/C++ 7.0 on top of
>>Windows 3.1?  After installing it (in place of himem.sys and emm386.sys)
>>windows will display the startup logo, then exit immediately, with no
>>error message or any other useful information.

>Sounds like a memory conflict somewhere; I've had no problems with 
>the combination.  (I don't think it matters, but I'm running 386^max
>version 6.02: the MSC 7 box includes version 6.01, to which I added
>the patch file you can download from Qualitas' BBS.)

it turned out to be a problem with the VGASWAP option.  It mistakenly 
decided that it was safe to remap the VGA, and after that Windows would
die.  I pulled that out, reran MAXIMIZE half a dozen times :0 and now
it's working fine.  Thanks for the hints though, always nice to get a
bit of real information (unlike the microsoft documentation).

>Try starting your Windows session with the /B switch, then when it fails
>look at the file BOOTLOG.TXT to see where it was when it aborted.

>You might also try the /D:F /D:S /D:V and /D:X switches to turn off
>some of the more esoteric options in case they are bombing.

>The options are explained if you enter the command   WIN /?  (which will
>just print the help info; Windows will not start from this command).

>Check your adapter cards. Some cards -- I particularly suspect Ethernet
>and SCSI flavors -- are designed in a way which makes Windows miscalculate
>just what parts of the adapter address space are available; it's possible
>that 386^max has the same problem.

>Joe Morris / MITRE

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: johne@tule.intel.com (John Elliott)
Subject: Re: Word for Win (Deleting Cells in Table - Question)
Reply-To: johne@tule.intel.com (John Elliott)
Organization: Software Technology Group, Intel Corp.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 20:04:52 GMT


In article <1686C13F0F.M14465@mwvm.mitre.org>, M14465@mwvm.mitre.org writes:> 
> In article <bomhof.717177146@honte>
> bomhof@nu.uleth.ca (A. Bomhof) writes:
> >
> >How would I delete the top left cell in a table without shifting the
> >rest of the columns in that row to the left ?
> >
>  
> I read both replies to this note, particularly the one from Mr.
> Dahl-Stamnes.  Personally, I agree with Mr. Dahl-Stamnes because it's an
> easy and effective method; however, I think a little clarification is in
> order.  Basically, leave the cell as is, but format the cell to have no
> border around it.  You may have to set it up so that it's border bottom
> and right so as not to conflict with the cells below and to the right.
>  
> The problem with the first method suggested is that it's tedious
> to enter in the exact width of the cell.  The rounded figure that Word
> displays is not always what it is actually used, so you have to try and
> guess what the dimension was rounded from.
> 

Convert the WHOLE table to a tab seperated list.  Make your changes and 
convert the whole thing back to a table.
I added a macro to winword to do this.  Under Winword 2.0 it is very
easy to do by 
hand.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: toree@swix.ifi.unit.no (Tore Eriksmoen)
Subject: WfW2 Question
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 12:40:41 GMT


I'm trying to connect some graphics-files to a WinWord document.
Basically this is quite easy, using "INSERT - PICTURE". The problem
with this is that the document gets very big, because each picture
is actually copied into the document. What I need is only a reference
which activate/display each picture when the document is opened.

In my last posting to this group I was told that I should 
select "LINK TO FILE" when inserting a picture. This actually 
makes the document even bigger because this enables you
to update the document when the graphics-file is changed.

I use the Norwegian version of WinWord 2.0, so please forgive me
if I have translated any menu-commands wrong.




Tore Eriksmoen
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: pjsinc@phoenix (Petri Salonen)
Subject: Designer 3.1 vs 3.0.2
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:28:28 GMT

I haven't notice this discussed here before, so...

My girlfriend is forced to use the older version of Designer 'cause
the way it handles arrows. Older version (3.0.2) makes small (and very
good) arrowheads on thick (1 cm) arrows but version 3.1 seems to draw
the arrowheads with same width as the line itself. This causes very
strange looking arrows. (Especially when the arrow itself is only
couple of centimeters long.) Imagine: 1 cm wide line with about 3 cm
wide arrowhead! And if the line is short there is nothing more than
the arrowhead. Aarrgh!

So we have to use version 3.0.2, BUT this causes other interesting
problems when you import the drawings to Page Maker (4.0). So, is
there any way to change the arrowhead size in Designer 3.1? My manual
doesn't say anything about it. Is it a bug? Is Micrografix planning a
new release of Designer with this fixed? Is there any way to fix it NOW?

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If it's possible that there are some opinions above, they must be all MINE.
From: weiss@turing.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Excel 4.0 "Create Directory" Add-in
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:38:48 GMT
Organization: School of Engineering & Applied Science, UCLA

I have created a rather simple Add-in for Excel 4.0 that adds a "Create
Directory" command on the File pulldown.  If anyone is interested, let me
know, and I'll put it on cica.
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From: simon@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: W4W Citation Macros
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:36:51 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Chris Horne (cdh@eng.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
: One article was posted announcing that a new set of macros was being developed
: which would be the answer to all our prayers, and that it would be released soon.
: Can the authors please let us know how they are getting on! Do you have a release
: date? 

I'm aware of one set of macros for W4W, written by a colleague of mine,
which creates a bibliography from a file-full of references.  I can't
just remember which directory on CICA they're in, but they're there
somewhere!

To blow my own trumpet a little:  I've been working on a program called
WinRefer which searches and formats refer-style reference databases and
inserts formatted references into W4W (or any other word processor,
for that matter).  The current version is *very* preliminary, and
I uploaded it to CICA a couple of weeks back.  This might help you more
than a macro package - the macros I've used were very slow, and a little
flaky.

I'm presently writing a new version of WinRefer which (amongst other
things) has faster searching and understands BiBTeX and ProCite databases.
It also has some macros for W4W to aid the creation of bibliographies.
It should be ready in a fortnight or so - thesis permitting!! - and I'll
announce it on comp.os.ms-windows.announce as soon as it's uploaded.

I'd appreciate comments and experiences with the current WinRefer version,
and I'll try to take any good suggestions on board.

Hope this helps you.


-- Si

Simon A. Dobson

Dept. of computer science,    \    If I'd the knack,
University of York,            \     I'd sing like
Heslington, York, UK.           \      Cherry flakes falling

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: h8915726@hkuxb.hku.hk (Chris Lo)
Subject: Re: intergraph
Reply-To: h8915726@hkuxa.hku.hk
Organization: The University of Hong Kong
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:40:52 GMT

albert@cs.uq.oz.au (Albert Ng) writes:
: Have anyone ever heard of something called "Intergraph"?
: A friend said to me it is from microsoft.
: I would like to hear any information on it!
: 
: Thanks
: 
: Albert
: BIT Hons
: UofQ

	Dunno if we're talking about the same one, InterGraph, in my
	RAM, is a BIG CAD/CAM graphics software, on Workstation platform,
	company.

	Or you mean there is a new software called Intergraph? 
	(any copyright problem?)

--
Chris Lo
University of Hong Kong
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