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From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dolphins News - Final Roster
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:54:42 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

This is the "official" starting roster for the Dolphins for the 1992
season, reprinted without permission from the Dolphin Digest:

Dolphins 1992 Regular Season Roster ( * - indicates probable starter):

QBs				NTs
13 - Dan Marino*		96 - Alfred Oglesby*
19 - Scott Mitchell		99 - Chuck Klingbeil
				
				DEs
RBs				79 - Larry Webster
21 - Mark Higgs			91 - Jeff Cross*
22 - James Saxon		95 - TJ Turner*
34 - Aaron Craver
44 - Bobby Humphrey*		LBs
49 - Tony Paige*		51 - Bryan Cox*
				52 - Roosevelt Collins
				56 - John Offerdahl*
WRs				58 - Mark Sander
11 - Jim Jensen			59 - John Grimsley*
81 - Robert Clark*		64 - Dwight Hollier
82 - Scott Miller		90 - Marco Coleman*
85 - Mark Duper*		93 - Cliff Odom
87 - Mike Williams		
89 - Tony Martin		CBs
				23 - Troy Vincent*
				24 - Vestee Jackson
TEs				37 - JB Brown*
84 - Greg Baty			42 - Chris Green
80 - Ferrell Edmunds*	 	32 - Bruce Alexander
				35 - Kerry Glenn

OLs				Ss
60 - Bert Weidner		25 - Louis Oliver*
61 - Gene Williams		26 - Jarvis Williams*
62 - Harry Galbreath*		29 - Liffort Hobley
63 - Jeff Uhlenhake*		
65 - Jeff Dellenbach		K - 10 - *Pete Stoyanovich*
69 - Keith Sims*
74 - Mark Dennis*		P - 4 - *Reggie Roby*
78 - Richmond Webb*


INJURED RESERVE:
9  - Scott Secules
83 - Mark Clayton

PHYSICALLY-UNABLE-TO-PERFORM:
66 - Eddie Blake
53 - Ned Bolcar
45 - Bobby Harden

RESEASON INJURED RESERVE:
Milton Biggins
Glenn Rogers

Note: Griggs has signed, but not in time to be included on this
roster.  I haven't heard who was cut to make room for him, but
possibilities include moving Edmunds to injured reserver or cutting
one of the corners (note that the 'phins are carrying 6).

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0



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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Niner's look good (IMHO)
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 00:33:28 GMT

In article <ELM.92Sep7010852@joyride.berkeley.edu>, elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller) writes:
>=>I realize this is only the FIRST game of the season, but if the
>=>Niner's continue, they will be unstoppable.  The Giants looked truly
>=>out of synch.  It is hard to tell if this is due to their inability
>=>or SF's defense and pressure on Simms.
>
>I saw the game too.  The 49ers are in trouble if they play a team
>which is better than the Giants.  The Giants are a team in decline,
>yet they still managed to pressure the QB and did a passable job on
>defense.  The Giants have *never* had much of an offense, so the 49ers
>didn't have any trouble stopping it.

Come on, what have you guys from Berkeley been smoking? Ashu Rege had
similar ho-hum comments about the 49ers' performance. Sure, the Giants
aren't the same team they were two years ago, but they are certainly
not pushovers. Give the 49ers a lot of credit; how many other teams
could paste the Giants with their third-string QB? And the final score 
could easily have been 48-14 instead of "just" 31-14.

The DL chalked up four sacks, which is very encouraging (OK, so Simms is
not all that mobile anymore, give us a break anyway). We had a 100-yard
game from a running back for the first time in a long time (and he did it
in just 13 carries, in his first NFL game!). The secondary did not look
all that bad, except for rookie Dana Hall (he *WILL* get better; he *WILL*.
I saw him play in college and he *WILL* develop NFL instincts. But I think
he should not be starting just yet.)

So how did the other powers in the NFL do against similar "weak" opponents?
Houston against Pittsburgh? Browns against Colts? Vikings against Packers?
Chiefs against Chargers? (OK, the Bills performed against the Rams). Are
these teams also "in trouble"? I just can't understand *ANYONE* watching the 
49ers' game yesterday and then saying that "the 49ers are in trouble".

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Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
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From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: Denver Broncos Cuts
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:17:42 GMT

In article <100240289@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman) writes:
 
>> OH, here's an IR question.  As I understand it, if a player goes on IR
>> before the last cuts, they cannot play for the entire year (e.g.,
>> Patrick Rowe, rookie WR, Cleveland), however, if a player goes on
>> IR AFTER the final cuts, they can come back after four games.
>> Correct?  If so, my OTHER question is....when I first heard of Vance's
>> injury, I thought he was gone for the year.  Waiting until now to put
>> him on IR implies that Vance may play this year.  Any word from Bronc-
>> land on how long he may be out?
>
>Sewell is out for the year.
>
Sewell might be back for the playoffs.  If the Broncos were sure he
would be out the entire year, they would have put him on IR before the
final cuts and saved a roster spot.
 
>Vance will be back.
>
The Denver Post had an interview with Johnson this week.  He says he is
healing faster than expected and will definitely be back for the fifth
game.
 
>-- LSC
 
Jim McMaster
From: reapdev@abcom.ATT.COM (3689 )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Who's got the toughest schedule?
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:06:26 GMT
Organization: AT&T(IMS-DPO), Aurora, Colorado

>
>  	I've heard (don't know for certain) that Washington has the toughest
> schedule:  First, there in the NFC east which is arguably the toughest division
> and 6 out of their 8 inter-division games are against teams that made the 
> playoffs last year.
> 
> Andy C
I would say the NY Jets have a tough schdule:
Home:49ers,Patriots,Bills,Dolphins,Bengals,Chiefs,Colts,Saints
Away:Falcons,Steelers,Rams,Colts,Broncos,Patriots,Bills,Dolphins

Proven teams in that schedule:
  49ers,Bills(2),Chiefs,Broncos,Saints
Tough teams:
  Patriots(2),Dolphins(2),Steelers,Bengals
 
Al G
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Viks/Lions... Lions have the edge.
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:19:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20299
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

The Detroit Lions have the edge over the Vikes for tomorrow's
game at the Silver Dome for the following reasons..

1. The Lions are hungry for their first season win and would like
to be 1-1 instead of 0-2.

2. Vikings have trouble stopping Sanders in the past.

3. Sanders is more devastating indoors than outdoors.


S.H
Go Vikes
From: chico@athena.mit.edu (Thomas A Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Niners Roster
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:24:24 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Does anyone know the status of Mark Seay?  Is he on the roster, devolopmental, IR
or released?
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From: clb2515@venus.tamu.edu (BRAUN, CHRISTOPHER L)
Subject: 1992 NFL Predictions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 08:22:00 GMT

These are the way things will likely end up this season as I see it.

AFC East                       NFC East
1. Jets       		       1. Philadelphia
2. Miami     		       2. Washington
3. New England  	       3. Giants
4. Buffalo		       4. Dallas
5. Indianapolis                5. Phoenix

AFC Central                    NFC Central
1. Houston                     1. Minnesota
2. Cleveland                   2. Chicago
3. Cincinnati                  3. Detroit
4. Pittsburgh                  4. Green Bay
                               5. Tampa Bay 
AFC West
1. Kansas City                 NFC West
2. Denver                      1. San Francisco
3. Raiders                     2. Atlanta
4. San Diego                   3. New Orleans
5. Seattle                     4. Rams

Playoffs:
Cleveland at Jets              New Orleans at Minnesota
Denver at Miami                Atlanta at Washington

Jets at Kansas City            Minnesota at San Francisco
Denver at Houston              Washington at Philadelphia

Kansas City at Houston         Minnesota at Philadelphia

Super Bowl XXVII:
Houston over Philadelphia           (I'll guess 26-23 OT)
                                              - gotcha Fo!

Kindly submitted by Christopher Lee Braun, football genius.
"Don't make me trounce you."

"Bill Walsh is the greatest man who ever lived.  I want him to bear my 
 children."   A&M 10, Stanford 7- August 26, 1992.
From: s1a@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: need stats for Browns/Dolphins game
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:07:00 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

Could someone please e-mail me the following stats from the 
Dolphins/Browns game last night.  I need them for a fantasy football
league and the *wonderful* State College PA newspaper doesn't bother to
publish MNF stats, EVER.     

The stats I need are:
Dan Marino passing and rushing yardage
Mark Duper receiving and rushing(?) yardage
Leroy Hoard receiving and rushing yardage
Bobby Humphrey receiving and rushing yardage
Distance of Pete Stoyanovich's field goals
Number of sacks by the Brown's defense


Thanks in advance,
Dave Salvia
From: bvernon@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Vernon R. Blakes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Ex-Niner Sonjay ????
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:02:13 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server


I heard Holmgren is starting Sonjay Beach opposite Sterling Sharpe.

Does anyone have any information to back this up ?

VRB

vernon@hpssl80.mayfield.hp.com
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From: pichocki@nbrwh34.bnr.ca (Stephen Pichocki)
Subject: Jets Favoured over The Steelers ??
Organization: Northern Telecom, Bramalea, Canada
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:37:42 GMT

I realize that Pitt has a battered secondary, and that one win against
Houston does not make them a contender but, why are the the dogs when
they are playing at home.

Am I missing something. Are the Jets that good??

P.S. Please don't flame me for Canadian spelling. (e.g. Favoured)

Regards,

Stephen Pichocki
Northern Telecom
Customer Service Marketing
Software Services
BUS   (416) 452-2391  FAX   (416) 452-4783   ESN   333-2391
Internet:  pichocki@bnr.ca
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Where are the Chiefs fans???
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:17:02 GMT
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1686319C3.O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>, O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Doug Miller) writes:
>    Since there are K.C. fans out on the net I need a question answered about
>them. I am in a fantasy football league and for my third round pick I took
>Christian Okoye. I thought this was a steal for the third round. Well the
>first week he didn't even suit up and Sunday he had I think 64 yards. That
>stinks. I heard he might get traded, and he is in the doghouse. Whats the
>deal with him, he's been a real bust for my team?
> 
Okay, one more time: this is your brain, oppps wrong statement.

Okoye held out.  He didn't sign until the week of the 1st game.
He wasn't ready to play the first game, so Shoetienheimer(however
you spell the coach's name) held him out.  From what I can guess,
Marty doesn't like holdouts; notice that Word didn't start when
he held out a year or so ago.  So, I would guess that Okoye will
have trouble getting into the starting role.  Although with KC's
lack of run blocking(at least from the 1st two games), any KC
RB will have trouble getting big yardage.

As for him getting traded.  That I don't know.  Rumors were around
last year about it.  KC does have a lot of RBs.
--
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Vikings 23 Packers 20
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:03:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.204453.4897@uwm.edu> melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill) writes:
>
>	Wow great game today at Lambeau Field. Vikings won 23-20 in OT.
>	Herschell who? Terry Allen had approx. 140+ yds rushing, and
>	Roger Craig looked good too. Next up the Lions, in Detroit,
>	who lost today against the Bears. That will be a real good test
>	for this yound Viking team. 
>
>							Mark
>							GO VIKINGS!

Too bad I didn't get a chance to this game in the West Coast.  
The Vikings are on their way.  Don't get me wrong. I am a
Niner fan all the way.  I am glad for D. Greene and H. Walker.
Good to hear that R. Craig, former Niner, look good by your
accounts.
-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Rostered 1st Rounders
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:42:14 GMT

I was wondering how many 1st round draft picks  (of your teams or of
another organization) starts for your favorite team and how many are
subs?   I'll start it off with my favorite team...

Tampa Bay Buccaneers:

 starters

   QB - Vinny Testaverde, LT - Paul Gruber, RT - Charles McCray,
   FB - Alonzo Highsmith, DE - Keith McCants, OLB - Jimmy Williams,
   OLB - Broderick Thomas.

 substitutes

   RB - Gary Anderson, DE - Reggie Rogers, S - Joey Browner.
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From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Monday Night Football announcers are terrible
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:43:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Sep10.184410.829@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
>
>Yo George!!! Nice to see you back! Where have you been hiding at
>lately? :->
>
>                                                   Tony
>                                                GO 49ERS!!!

Hi Tony and all good contributors to r.s.f.p.

I've been pretty busy with work, so I don't have a great amount of time
to post, but I've been doing some lurking.  It's great to have football
back, I'm pleased with the Niner's first win (albeit somewhat sloppy), and
I don't miss Charles Haley...but do wish him well with Dallas.

While I agreed with the assessment prior to the season opener about the
NFC East being the dominant division in football, and while I recognize that
one game does not a season make, unless the Redskins and Giants make some
dramatic improvements from their collective opening performances, that 
division will soon lose its august reputation.

With that, I'll bid you so long for now, and thanks for the nice welcome.

George Lambert
GO NINERS!!!!!  PEAT!!!!
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Go Broncos
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:34:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.173230.23488@den.mmc.com> () writes:
>There isn't a team in the AFC (and probably the NFC (east) )
>that has a prayer against the Broncos this year - especially
>the Raiders in the opener at Mile High Stadium!
>
>Next year is here!
>
>GO!
>
>- Bob    - Bronco Fan
>         - Raider Haider
>
>Broncos 77
>Raiders 2
>

NOT!  The Bronco's are losers and this year is no different.
Sure, they can probably win their division, but they are
major CHOKER's, BIG TIME! Besides, the Raiders are due to
do some major butt kicking and it might as well start with
the Broncos.

Broncos 17
Raiders 24

-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Steeler TE Eric Green
Organization: Clark University
Date: 9 SEP 92 02:08:40 GMT

ESPN reported today that Green would miss the next 2 or 3 games.
It looks like we have a pretty good backup in Cooper.

Pittsburgh's receiving talent may be a concern; I see that the only
WRs with catches vs the Oilers were Graham and Stone. But I have alot
of confidence in the catching ability of the RBs and TEs. I think Lipps
has become a good possession reciever. Did he get much playing time
on Sunday?

Bart
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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: 49er/Bills
Summary: Great game--hats off to the Bills
Keywords: Offense, oFfense, ofFense, offEnse, offeNse, offenSe, offensE
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:28:37 GMT

			In article <1992Sep15.053641.19459@sco.com> timr@sco.
COM (Tim Ruckle) writes:



(if only I'd been rooting for Cofer he would
>have made that first kick, dammit... ;^)
		
Now we know, it's your fault the Niners lost.
-----
holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Subject: Re: Bruce.
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:15:26 GMT

In article <Bu8GBH.Hov@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy) writes:
>nasa.gov writes...

>>>      The '49ers are better, but they simply aren't such an awesome team that
>>>I would measure the Bills prospects by how well they play against the '49ers.
>>>I expect the Bills to beat the '49ers, but not by that much.
>>>
>>>Snoopy

>>Whoa, time out.  Would not measure the Bills by how they play against
>>the 49ers?  Granted they have slipped since the late 80's but not by that
>>much.  I think sunday you will see how far the bills still have to go
>>to match up with one of the better NFC teams.  Have you forgatten
>>already what the Skins did in the Super Bowl?

>        They have slipped quite a bit.  They are no longer a playoff team.  They
>have to prove their worth, just like every other team in the league, including
>the Bills.
>        We will certainly see how well the teams match up on Sunday.  San
>Francisco does have homefield advantage, but to be really good, you have to win
>on the road.
>        I have not forgotten what happened in the Super Bowl.  I also flatly
>deny this "NFC is superior" bullshit and challenge anyone to offer a single
>cogent argument in favor of it.
>
>Snoopy

The 49ers have slipped quite a bit?? Slipped where? If anywhere,
forward from where they were last year.  Not to rag you or anything,
but have you ever heard of the term "Denial"??  You seem to be doing
a pretty good job at denying the 49ers credit.
Last year, the 49ers were 10-6. Figure in a hail mary pass and a few
easy field goals that should have been made, and they would have
easily been 12-4.  Ahhh, and Montana going down, losing Lott, Craig
ect ect??  There has been MANY improvments this year. I would hardly
say that they have slipped a lot.  And everyone knows the 49ers
history of playing on the road. Not that that is a factor in this
upcoming game though.

You want a single cogent argument here on the NFC being superior?
Here is my list of the best teams in the NFL. These are not listed
in order either.  Redskins, Eagles, Bills, Dallas, Saints, Bronco's,
49ers, Chicago, Chiefs, Oilers. There are more good teams, but I
feel that these are the best of the best.  The Dolphins are good,
but won't cut it on defense.  So count them up!  If you want to go
through the process of elimination, the only AFC team I might put
money on is Denver. Houston is good, but get them out of their
Dome and things are different.
All the rest can't cut it against the strong NFC defenses.  The
mighty Bills have proven this the last two years.

So lets hear your list.

                                                 Tony
                                              GO 49ERS!!!
From: scotti@madworld.Eng.Sun.COM (Scott A. Vu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Afterthoughts on Raiders/Denver
Date: 10 Sep 1992 16:43:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: madworld
Summary: dkfjd;k

In article <40972@gremlin.nrtc.northrop.com>, maurit@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (Mark Aurit <maurit>) writes:
> As a Raiders fan, I was unhappy that they lost a game they should
> have won. But in retrospect, I cant help but feel glad that Im
> backing the losing Raiders than the winning Broncos.
> 
> As I said, the Raiders had the game in vitually every important
> position (sure, Schroeders no Elway - but then very few are). All
> they need to do is a little fine tuning and they certainly have
> the firepower and defense to make a very respectable showing of
> themselves. Hey, Bell and Dickerson in the same backfield!
> 
> Denver, on the other hand, was lucky - and while there is nothing
> wrong with being lucky, you cant count on it, and defensively and
> offensively they were really weak. 
> 
> Anyone else feel the same?
> 
> Mark
> maurit@nrtc.northrop.com

I agree with you that the Raiders had the game won, however you 
cannot tell me that the Raiders defense outplay the Broncos.
Denver defense is one of the best in the league. I say that the
Broncos won the game not because of luck or Jay but by their defense.
As for Elway, the guy continue to amaze me. 
One thing that I do not understand is:
Why dont the Raiders continue to run the ball?

scvu-


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From: rfedkiw@sepulveda.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Bills
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 23:16:11 GMT

3 key developments this morning ....
1) Bills blow out Rams .... Bruce Smith looks great, defense looks good,
   Loften becomes the greatest all time receiver, Thomas was unstoppable,
   etc, .....
2) Jets lost to Atlanta ... just in case the Jets are a threat, its nice
   to see them start at 0-1
3) Houston lost to Pittsburg in Houston... Houston is probably the Bills 
   biggest threat, Pittsburg should beat them again in Pittsburg, if
   Houston loses 2 to Pitt, they probably won't get home field advantage

Things look good for Buffalo, but next week will be tough in San Fran.


--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
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