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From: hoehen@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Walter Hoehenberger)
Subject: Re: FILE: Committee of 300 - Part 4
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:51:49 GMT

dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:


>--- Committee of 300 - Part 4 ---------------------------------------------

[Horrible conspiracy of the Myrdals (yes, what has happened to his wife?)
 and the Beatles deleted ...] 


>motley crew from Liverpool and the 12-atonal system of "music"
>that was to follow had it not been for an overabundance of press
>exposure. The  12-atonal system consisted of heavy, repetitive
>sounds, taken from the music of the cult of Dionysus and the
>Baal priesthood by Adorno and given a "modern" flavor by this
                    ^^^^^^
>special friend of the Queen of England and hence the Committee
>of 300.

          Never heard of Schoenberg? (Obviously some half digested piece
	  of information, confusing Schoenberg, Thomas Mann and 
	  Adorno). 

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
From: sffcu@cuais01.cc.columbia.edu (Stew Feuerstein)
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:38:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.111759.1876@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
>Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
>> # > To say Jews control international banking is ludicrous.  If it were
>> # > true, than Israel wouldn't need loan guarantees, they'd just go to
>> 
>> # This sounds like pretty powerful financial
>> # clout to me, but don't give Israel all of the credit when probably
>> # most of it should go to AIPAC, a lobby that seems to be well out
>> # of control and working against the best interests of the American
>> # people.
>> 
>> 	Contrary to popular myth AIPAC is a worthless organization with
>> clout at all.  It has never won a contested battle, and the recent
>> loan gloan gau fiasco showed just how impotent they really are.
>
>If AIPAC is so powerless, then why did the president of the pro-Israel
>lobby resign after being secretly tape recorded while bragging that
>AIPAC was negotiating with the Clinton campaign about key appointments
>and claiming that he had made a deal with James Baker to get Israel
>extra aid?  Harry Katz, AIPAC member, who taped David Steiner's
>conversation, sent the tape to the Washington Times which published
>the news about last Wednesday.  
>
>Katz is quoted as saying "I don't think the Jewish lobby should have
>disproportionate political power" and "I wanted him [Steiner] to admit
>to me the incredible infiltration of the Israel lobby into the
>campaign."  Steiner is said to have bragged about the many people
>"we have" in Clinton's headquarters and how they were all going to
>get big jobs.  He even said "we're negotiating" with the Clinton camp
>on who might be secretary of state.
> 
	Joe,
	You fail to mention why David Steiner was fired.  The article I read 
stated that he was fired for making the whole thing up.  In fact David 
Steiner and AIPAC has no connection to the Clinton campaign.  Mr Steiner was 
merely trying to make AIPAC seem more important by lying about his influence.

				-Stew
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: ad626@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Crocker)
Subject: Re: A plutonium economy vs. a free democracy
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 10:26:05 GMT


Sounds to me like Plutonium is arguably one of the most potentially
destructive (in the wrong hands) innovations to come along since
the taming of fire.

-Steve
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: dhammers@pacific.urbana.mcd.mot.com (David Hammerslag)
Subject: Re: Request - USA statistics on religion and taxes
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:30:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.063501.13399@cs.ucla.edu>, pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce) writes:
>What is the total value of property-tax-exempt religious-owned real
>estate in the USA?
>
>By how much would tax revenues be increased if such property tax
>exemptions were prohibited?
>
>What is the annual total of donations to religious organizations
>in the USA?
>
>How much would tax revenues be increased if donations to religious
>organizations were no longer tax-deductible?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-- Brad Pierce --
>

Be sure to also ask about donations to non-religious charitable organizations
such as United Way;  I'm sure you don't mean to single out religious 
organizations.
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Hammerslag (dhammers@urbana.mcd.mot.com)
   "...there ain't nobody so bad that the Lord can't save 'em ain't
        nobody so good they don't need God's love..." -- Mullins 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: tb13@ellis.uchicago.edu (leon joel gross)
Subject: Re: Gritz nno anti-Semite
Reply-To: tb13@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:25:49 GMT

In article <12NOV199223271565@acad3.alaska.edu> ksjwr@acad3.alaska.edu (REDELSS JOHN W) writes:
>Is it possible that Gritz is no anti-Semite but merely finds Jews interesting
>or thinks his listeners might find them interesting?

Then read the information about the crowd he hangs out with, and 
their 'interest' in Jews.  The KKK and neo-Nazis are 'interested'
in Jews too.

>I know I've always been fascinated with Jews.  They seem to be special in a lot
>of ways.  I don't think anyone would claim they are "just like everyone else." 

Why not?  Why don't you read Shylock's speach....
"If you prick us, do we not bleed".
Isn't the whole point that Jews ARE like everyone else?  
What is this 'specialness'?  Why do you think that nobody would claim
that they are "just like everyone else"?  Is it because there are almost
no Jews in Alaska and you don't know any?


>Does this curiosity make me an anti-Semite?  
No, but it makes some people suspicious.  Many people don't like being
objects of curiousity.

>I don't think so.  As a Mormon I
>think I AM a Jew.  
As a Jew, I think that you are not.  What sense of the word 'Jew'
are you using?

>I'Ve never met anti-Semitic Mormon.  That would be like an
>anti-Semitic Jew.
Right, and the black nationalists who claim that the people in the
bible were all black can't be anti-Jewish because the real Jews were
black.
Appropriations of another culture and symbolism is not a way to
enamor one to others.

Do you know what Jews are?  Do you know what anti-Semitism is? 
How am I  supposed to know if you are qualified make the judgment
"I've never met an anti-Semitic Mormon"

>Because Bo Gritz is a practicing Mormon, I think it is very unlikely he is 
>anti-Semitic. 

And the Koran demonstrates respect for Jews, therefore there are no
anti-Semitic Muslims, right?
And the Constitution rules out discrimination, so there are no racist
politicians, right?


> i've never met an anti-Semitic Mormon. 
And I've never met a Jewish one.

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I plan one on TV.

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Murder of Malcolm X and "Contract on America"
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:44:10 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

I seem to recall that David Scheim's book _Contract on America_ had a
chapter in it on the murder of Malcolm X. Is that recollection
correct? If so, would someone please summarize Scheim's theory on
that crime?

Thanks in advance.

-- Brad Pierce --
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (General Boycott)
Subject: Jubilee -- When the Trumpet Sounds.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: TaxSlaves, Forgiveness of Federal Debt, Banker's Evil, etc.  
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:22:00 GMT

Never mind me, just setting the record straight...

	"jubilee" -- [OF. `jubile', fr. LL. `jubilaeus', fr. Gr. 
	`iobelaios', fr. Heb. `yobel' ram's horn, trumpet; jubilee
 	 confused with L. `jubilum'a shout (ie.jubilate).] 

	1. In this sense spelled, in the A.V. & R.V. of the English
	Bible, `jubile'.  Jewish Hist.  An institution, a sort of
	exalted sabbatical year, the record of whose ordination
	is contained in Lev. xxv. 8-17, which was to be kept every
	fiftieth year (i.e. the year following the completion of the 
	seventh sabbatical year), its announcement to be by the sound
	of the trumpet on the Day of Atonement. It was to be observed
	by the liberation of all slaves who were Hebrews, the resto-
	ration to their former owners of all lands which had been 
	alienated during the whole period, and by omission of sowing
	and reaping of any kind and even the gathering of grapes.


Fenton _Usury_ II xiii 95 (c. 1611) :

	The land if it want a Iubile will in time grow hartlesse.



 -= 50 years of war have past, and the people now long for Jubilee =-

Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:12307 soc.culture.jewish:20372
From: jimkalb@dorsai.com (Jim Kalb)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:50:23 GMT
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy +1.718.729.5018
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
: Jews are underrepresented
: on the boards of the major banks based in New York City, which, to my
: knowledge, have never had a Jewish CEO.

What is the standard for underrepresentation?  Should the proportion of Jews
on bank boards equal their proportion of the population of New York City?  Of
the United States?  Of the world?  "New York City" seems the wrong answer,
since these are institutions that draw their employees, shareholders and
customers from all over.  But any of the other answers suggests a rather low
percentage of Jews.
-- 
Jim Kalb (jimkalb@dorsai.com)
"Harkas baayad ba andaazei gelim-e-khod paay-e-khod-raa daraaz konad."
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Clinton's first Federal laws
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 18:19:29 GMT

The first Federal laws for which Bill Clinton should be held personally
responsible after he takes office in January 1993 are those Executive
Orders (EOs) which

	 (1) were issued by his predecessors
		    AND
	 (2) are still in effect in January 1993
		    AND
	 (3) he chooses not to countermand.

President Clinton will have the power to countermand his predecessors'
EOs with the stroke of a pen; thus, there is no effective difference
between his failing to countermand an EO and having issued that EO
himself.

It is incumbent on the news media to hold Clinton personally
responsible for his first Federal laws by

         (1) making the public aware of each of these laws 
                    AND
         (2) demanding from Clinton a specific justification for
             each existing EO that he chooses not to countermand.

-- Brad Pierce --

Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:12359 soc.culture.jewish:20574
From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:11:02 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Nov19.125845.27511@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

[text deleted]

> 
> 	As far as I know, even ass-holes like you are free to speak out,
> so nobody trying to deny you this.
> 
	And you, Mr. Makowsky, just ended the conversation with your
personal abuse.

> --
> 	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
> at math and those that are not.
> 
> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.horror.cthulhu,alt.slack
From: hoehen@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Walter Hoehenberger)
Subject: Re: THE COMMITTEE OF 333 - The REAL Enemy
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:42:10 GMT

Mitchell.Porter@launchpad.unc.edu (Mitchell Porter) writes:

>Well, for ages I've wanted to see what this Committee of 300 is all about -
>and now a whole damn book on the topic has been posted to alt.conspiracy!
>Now, I've only had one quick look, but I can't quite seem to find where
>the name came from. Is it something the author made up himself, by analogy
>with the "Council of 300" which ran the old mercantile companies? Or do the
>Queen of England and her cohorts actually call think of themselves as "members
>of the Committee of 300"? Do they have Committee of 300 stationery? Perhaps
>I missed the chapter wherein this aspect was explained.

>NO, my friends, this "Committee of 300" is but a RED HERRING; the REAL Enemy
>is the totally unknown COMMITTEE OF 333! It is THEY who are the CEOs of the
>Conspiracy, it is THEY who pull the strings of the Secret Governments, it is
>THEY who rig the DEBATES on alt.config! Their VERY NAME is a SINISTER JOKE -
>it is a DIABOLICAL CODE for their principal FRONT ORGANIZATION! You see, my
>friends, I have discovered by Divine Numerologology that the 3rd letter of
>our Great Christian Alphabet is the letter "C", and thus 333 designates the
>INITIALS of the Committee's INSTRUMENT OF RECRUITMENT on our campuses: the


  In fact, the Committee consists only of 33 members, mostly of Cambodian 
  origin trained at the Ecole Normale Superieure by Andre Malraux. Later
  Malraux came to Cambodia and gave them further advice how to reinstate
  the Kingdom of the Khmer. The Comittee became known as "Angkar".  

>--
>   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>           internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:12319 soc.culture.jewish:20494
From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:07:25 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Nov18.230321.23649@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> In article <1992Nov18.133129.1903@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Nov18.040552.17179@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>>> You've never run a lobby, then.  That's precisely how lobbies build
>>> their influence -- by making themselves seem more influential than
>>> they'll ever hope to be.
>>
>>Maybe that's what they taught you in law school but in real life the
>>liar loses all credibility and influence related to it.  
> 
> Only if they get caught lying.

Your argument is difficult to follow.  Are you saying Steiner's real
problem was not that he was lying (which seems in doubt) but that he
got caught at it?  
 
> You've never had a salesman overexaggerate?  There's even a legal
> term for it: "puffing".  Overselling is not fraud, because some
> "puffing" is expected.

And if I catch him at it, it's doubtful we'll do business.  Earlier
in my career I had several years of successful high-tech sales and
know from first hand experience that good business is built on trust,
not hype and exaggeration.  Are you saying that Mr. Steiner's reported talk
of taking some credit for a few billion here and a few billion there was
just puff to get a few bucks coming in to keep the office coffee fund
in good shape and that AIPAC is really impotent?  I hope you rethink
some of your attitudes towards business ethics.
> -- 
> ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
> standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
> the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637

-Joe Gaut
From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Committee of 300 - READ ME NOW!
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:47:01 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

In article <1e7im4INNiqb@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
>In spite of this gentlemans racial views, however, the bulk of his
>analysis appears to be strikingly correct, in the light of what I 
>have already surmised from other sources. I urge those here to look

Nah.  I unpacked the GIF at the end of it to see the magnitude of the
conspiracy, and it turns out that well over 38% of the American voting
public is in on it.  Besides my company (well-known to be public-spirited
and innocuous :-), the committee controls Zionism, Communism, Fabianism,
Liberalism, Socialism, and Right Wing Parties, as well as the UN and
Member Nations.

The only question I'm left with is who *isn't* in the conspiracy.

Even paranoids should have <<some>> non-enemies!

-- 
	Jim Gillogly
	U.S. National Debt: $4,135,500,300,885
	Your Share: $16,169
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (General Boycott)
Subject: The Conspiracy to Keep The Conspiracy Alive
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:13:00 GMT

Another thought for the celebration wakes on JFK's death day.

Not to fret though, instead of JFK and MLK, we have Mr. Bill 
and Reverend Jackson as simulacrum, (attempts to recapture 
that which never was).

So why the American penchant for necrophilia?

Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:12329 soc.culture.jewish:20505
From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jews in Banks
Date: 19 Nov 1992 12:09 PST
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.196
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Nov18.230321.23649@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes...
> 
>You've never had a salesman overexaggerate?  There's even a legal
>term for it: "puffing".  Overselling is not fraud, because some
>"puffing" is expected.

This is not really true.  Puffery is allowed only when the specific claims 
are [sorry, I don't know the exact wording of the legalese] presumed to be
clearly known to be hype by the intended audience and is not subjectable
to quantitative analysis.  When you favorite toothpaste company brags that
their new product "Tastes better than ever, better than any other toothpaste"
this is puffery.  But if they say "our new toothpaste will prevent gum
disease", then this is fraud, if it is not true.  Failure to abide by
truth-in-advertising laws is illegal, and "overselling" is not permitted,

-Scott 
--------------------
Scott I. Chase			"It is not a simple life to be a single cell,
SICHASE@CSA2.LBL.GOV		 although I have no right to say so, having
				 been a single cell so long ago myself that I 
				 have no memory at all of that stage of my 
				 life." - Lewis Thomas
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: USA national emergencies
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:48:50 GMT

Four facts:

     In Proclamation 2352 (Sept. 8, 1939), USA Pres. Roosevelt
     proclaimed a "national emergency ... within the limits of
     peace-time authorizations."

     In Proclamation 2487 (May 27, 1941), USA Pres. Roosevelt (half a
     year before USA entry into the war) proclaimed "an unlimited
     national emergency".

     In Proclamation 2914 (Dec. 16, 1950), USA Pres. Truman proclaimed
     a "national emergency".

     In Proclamation 2974 (April 28, 1952), USA Pres. Truman proclaimed
     the "termination of the national emergencies proclaimed on
     September 8, 1939 and May 27, 1941."

Questions:

     Why did USA Pres. Truman proclaim a national emergency in 1950
     when the USA was still in an "unlimited" national emergency?

     I didn't notice any proclamations or executive orders (by USA
     Pres. Truman or any of his predecessors) terminating the national
     emergency proclaimed in 1950 - has that national emergency lasted
     42 years?

Two more facts:

     In paragraph A of Proclamation 4074 (Aug. 15, 1971), USA Pres.
     Nixon proclaimed a national emergency; paragraphs B and C imposed
     supplemental import duties.

     In Proclamation 4098 (Dec. 20, 1971), USA Pres. Nixon terminated
     paragraphs B and C of Proclamation 4074, but let paragraph A
     stand.

-- Brad Pierce --

Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.atheism,misc.taxes
From: pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce)
Subject: Request - USA statistics on religion and taxes
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 06:35:01 GMT

What is the total value of property-tax-exempt religious-owned real
estate in the USA?

By how much would tax revenues be increased if such property tax
exemptions were prohibited?

What is the annual total of donations to religious organizations
in the USA?

How much would tax revenues be increased if donations to religious
organizations were no longer tax-deductible?

Thanks in advance.

-- Brad Pierce --
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Committee of 300 - READ ME NOW!
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:19:51 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov15.193734.26206@bilver.uucp>, dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
> ** READ ME **
> 
> "Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of The Committee of 300 "
> by Dr. John Coleman

Could someone please mail me parts 1,3 and 4 which didn't make it to my
site. I've tried mailing dona@bilver.uucp but got no reply.

Thanks.


-- 
Alan Greig                            Janet: Alan@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
Dundee Institute of Technology	   Internet: Alan@DCT.AC.UK
Tel: (0382) 308810                 Int: +44 382 308810
              -- There is only one true conspiracy --
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