HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com>
Subject: photo cd routines now on
Reply-To: "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:40:41 EST

-> >C= is going to come out with CD-Rom so the whole point is really
-> moot.
-> Is it?  Commodore has been very quiet on the isuue of **AMIGA** (not
-> CDTV)

Yes! Yes! Oh Yes! Oh Yes!......YES!  I was assured repeatedly at the
WOCA when speaking with more than one C= employee that was indeed the
case.  They said that given the level of growth of CD-Rom in the MS Dos
world C= will follow suit such that CD-Rom is accessable to Amiga's
across the board.  There is no clearer answer than that.

Regards
Grant
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From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Binaries/Sources
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In article <C03tHo.6F8@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> Well, I have sent mail to the moderator.
>
>       1. He says he sent out everything that he could compile and/or run.
>          If he couldn't, he assumed it was broken.
>
>       2. He says people aren't sending him anything.
>
> OK, folks, send stuff.

Is the moderator non-Internet? (I have a fuzzy memory that perhaps he was...)

Why doesn't he tell us in c.s.a.announce what the status is? (Or those groups
for that matter?)

Where are the monthly ("regular" anyway) informational postings that are
supposed to be in sources and binaries groups that define submission and
posting requirements? The indexes? Etc., etc.?

I can see why people would NOT send him anything. As far as we are concerned,
the groups are dead.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson)
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 14:54:37 GMT

eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:

> won't let anyone access more than 1 at a time.  Tried to format disks in
> both at the same time once and had to ctrl-alt-del to recover the system...
> choke, gag, barf... forgot I wasn't using an Ami for a moment...  :-/
> 

 
I *know* exactly what you mean!  I was at my wife's place of 
business...as the non-paid computer droid (in a four-person real-estate 
office), I went in yesterday to back up this year's files from the 
machine...and was disheartened to find out that you couldn't format df1:


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Subject: Trouble writing to MSDOS disk with MessyDos.
From: ajmex@brt.deakin.edu.au
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:44:31 EST
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne

I am have been using Messydos quite successfully for a while now to read 
files from a MSDOS disk, but I have had trouble writing to a MSDOS disk.

I can delete files, create/delete directories, and copy text files
to a MSDOS format disk, but when I try to copy a binary file to a MSDOS
disk, I get an error along the lines of "Error writing to disk".

Does anyone have any idea why this is?

I am running Workbench 1.3.
I dont know what version of Messydos I am running, but I downloaded it 
about a year ago. Is there a newer version out?

Thanks in advance, Alister Miller.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: CADS_COLE@GALLUA.BITNET (Kevin Cole; Washington DC)
Subject: Seeking home budgeting/accounting software
Organization: Gallaudet Research Institute
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:55:54 GMT

Greetings from the void,

I don't have access to the comp.binaries or comp.source groups, so I decided to 
ask here:  Can people give me recommendations on home finance/budget programs 
akin to QUICKEN for the PC's?  QUICKEN did everything I wanted, and was 
affordable (less than $50.00, if I recall correctly).

I tried something called BUDGET from the Fred Fish collection, but it made my 
screen flash yellow, and I had to reboot, so that's not the answer.  (Or, if it 
is, it's not the *complete* answer.)

Thanx for any suggestions.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: Byte A4000/A3000T-040 Review
Date: 30 Dec 92  5:20:19 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


> I can think of one right off the bat.  Commodore's problem is that the
> bulk of their sales are to these electronically-ignorant individuals who use
> their computers as home computers.  Even the bulk of A3000 and A4000 sales are
> to people who use them as home computers.  I would even bet that the
> majority of Commodore's Amiga UNIX systems went to individuals who used them
> as home computers.

Using ones Amiga as a "home computer" need not quality one for the
electronically challenged club.  Some of us are pretty damned sharp with
electronics (and much else besides) and do not need, want, or appreciate
Uncle Irving trying to "protect" us (or our computers) from ourselves. 
There really ARE other machines out there that don't suffer from such
paranoia... really, there are... trust me.


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Subject: Need 15Khz monitor? HELP!!!!!
From: dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 28 Dec 92 09:11:28 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In a month or two I plan to get an a1200 or a4000. I know that VERY
few non-commodore monitors support the 15Khz screen modes. Question:
With the PD "hacks" available with 3.0 (promotes all screens to any
resolution, etc..), do I really need the 15Khz modes? What programs
absolutely require such modes? 

I can get a good deal on a NEC 4FG, but it doesn't scan to 15Khz. It
is worth it to get the NEC and loose the 15Khz mode, or go with a 1960
(yuk!) or ????

ANY help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in Advance,

Derek

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Derek Seaman
From: halo@tamsun.tamu.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: NoClick 2.0
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:16:14 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

Can someone please tell me where I can find NoClick 2.0?  I think that's what
it's called.  I'm talking about the WB version, not the cli version (they're
not the same).  I had a copy but accidentally deleted it and have scanned
wuarchive, physik, grind, and hubcap to no avail.  It's probably on a fish disk
but I also got rid of fishcat... what can I say?  I was running out of disk and
hd space :(  Oh and why don't I use NoClick?  'cause it doesn't work!  I
haven't tried ShutUp but I liked the NoClick I had, all I had to do was drop it
in the WBstartup drawer.  The others, for some stupid reason, make you tell it
which drives to stop clicking.

Please hurry!  This drive clicking is driving me crazy!

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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: 30 Dec 92  5:14:42 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> But as for CD-ROM being THE future, that's bologna. Sheer marketing hype.
> CD-ROM is nothing more than a short-term solution to a long-term problem.
> CD-ROM is expensive, both in terms of development (ie: burners) and also
to
> the consumer (ie: $400-500 just to hear a game talk to them). It is not
the
> answer to all of our problems. It is a current solution to those who are
> willing to pay for it, but take over the world it will not.


Why does this remind me of the comments made by a past president of I.B.M.?
Something to the effect that "...this company will concentrate on
typewriters and adding machines, since the entire world's need for
computers is about 5 machines..."... or words *very* close to that. 
Pioneering vision, in either case.  MHO, of course.  ;-)


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From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:39:03 GMT

In <C023rw.C34@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>   CD-ROM disks don't cost much more to manufacture than audio CDs.  And audio
>CDs cost next to nothing to manufacture.  For example, a recent issue of an
>audio magazine includes two audio CDs "free", for the $3.95 cover price of the
>magazine. 

CD-ROM disks cost *exactly* the same to manufacture as audio CDs. 

>   CD-ROM drives are slowly coming down in price.  I have seen Mac CD-ROM 
>drives advertized for $400, and Mac hardware is always a bit overpriced.  The
>fact that Tandy and Commodore are able to put CD-ROM drives into their VIS and
>CDTV products and still sell them for less than $700 shows that the CD-ROM
>drives must have already come down in price quite a bit.

the drive mechanism of a CD-ROM - exclusive of speed doublers of course - is 
exactly the same drive mechanism as an audio CD drive. the bare drive
mechanism costs well less than $100. probably less than $50. again, exclusive 
of speed doublers. an CD audio unit has D/A converters, filters, and audio 
output circuitry, among other things. a CD-ROM drive dispenses with these, but 
includes enhanced error detection and correction circuitry and interface 
hardware. 

prices continue to drop due to increased manufacturing efficiency, economy
of scale, and increased demand.

>   I don't pay much attention to hype, contrary to what people believe.  I
>just don't think 1.3 Gigabytes of potential inexpensive storage can be 
>dismissed very easily.  Yes, I said 1.3 Gigabytes.  There is no particular 
>reason why CD-ROM discs cannot be double-sided.  They are single-sided now
>because the extra storage is not needed.

you may not pay much attention to hype, but neither do you pay much
attention to fact. The principal reason why Compact Discs are not double-
sided is because the manufacturing cost to do so would be considerably 
greater than that to produce two single-sided disks. There is no practical
value in making double-sided disks. a double-sided disk would also have to
be thicker due to the need for a specific substrate depth for the optical
pickup system; thus there would be no real savings in "space" by making disks
double-sided - two single-sided disks would be only slightly thicker than
one double-sided disk.

if you want to talk about "the future", CD-ROM is *not* a big player. think
about the name for a minute, barc: CD-*ROM*. 

recordable systems are the only future of optical storage media, if we are
going to natter on with pointless prognostications. recordable optical drives
with the same capacity as CD-ROM will cost virtually the same as CD-ROM 
drives within a very few years. and have infinitely greater utility.




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: "Rainlight" song posted.
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:30:43 GMT

In <BzLJ3E.ID@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:


>Sick of the techno mods? Me too. :)  I composed "Rainlight" in one day..
>WHEW.  It lasts about 2:49.  It's piano, strings, a tiny bit of flute..
>something different.  Check it out, it's on amiga.physik.unizh.ch.

>-- 
>    // Amiga 3000   ___ \ Sam Hulick: shulick@indiana.edu (NeXTmail OK!)
>   // 68030 25 MHz /__/\ \ My opinions wear combat boots.  Or whatever.
>\\// OS 2.04       \__\/ / "Walk!  Not bloody likely.  I am going in a
> \/                     / taxi."  --George Bernard Shaw


    ----->>>>>> I   L-O-V-E  IT!!!  <<<<<<-----


    MORE!  MORE!  MORE!   MORE!

	   
Crystal
:> :> :> 
  :> :>
    :>
From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: 29 Dec 1992 20:36:20 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu

In article <Bzu958.DvD@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>
>   There are also the usual problems with manufacturing floppies to be taken
>into consideration as well.  The magnetic media of floppies is more prone to
>developing read/write errors before the disk leaves the duplicators, or 
>during shipment.

   And CD-ROM discs are prone to being scratched, either before or after they
leave the duplicators. Every media has inherent problems, and CD-ROM is no
different.

>>Look,  maybe  Amiga people just arent as gung ho about CD-ROM as people are
>>on  other  systems.

   Contrary to media hype, nobody really cares about CD-ROM. The clone market
is still entrenched in the 5.25" floppy disk market. Nevermind CD-ROM. By
the end of 1994 (if it continues at this rate), the Sega-CD unit will have an
installed user-base greater than all MS-DOS CD-ROMs (which is currently said
to be around 900,000 - a paltry number at best).

>The future is CD-ROM, 
>period.

   In the near-term, CD-ROM will be a solution to ever-increasing game sizes.
Productivity software will never lead the way in making CD-ROM widely
accepted - they simply don't use that much storage (example: Willy Beamish
CD-ROM used approximately 150MB of storage space). 
   But as for CD-ROM being THE future, that's bologna. Sheer marketing hype.
CD-ROM is nothing more than a short-term solution to a long-term problem.
CD-ROM is expensive, both in terms of development (ie: burners) and also to
the consumer (ie: $400-500 just to hear a game talk to them). It is not the
answer to all of our problems. It is a current solution to those who are
willing to pay for it, but take over the world it will not.
   
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From: LadyHawke@cup.portal.com (Classic - Concepts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: driver for color scanner
Date: Sat,  2 Jan 93 18:02:32 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na



    Is there a driver on the Amiga to drive a UMAX (600 dpi 24-bit) scanner?
We have one hooked up to the Quadra, and would also like to scan direct to
the A3000.  Any help/pointers would be appreciated.

                                  Julie Petersen  (LadyHawke@cup.portal.com)
From: oahvenla@snakemail.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: pointer to new lharc ?
Date: 03 Jan 93 22:00:51 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: cmcmanis@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM's message of 3 Jan 1993 10:34:43 GMT

In article <lkdga3INNbm9@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> cmcmanis@pepper.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) writes:

>Ok, so I'm looking for something that can "uncompress" archives that
>use type "-lh5-". Seems my version of lharc1.30 isn't up to the task.

LhA. Latest evaluation version is 1.38, I guess. Any good FTP site should
have it.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: bandy@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Mike Bandy)
Subject: Re: Oops!I did a stupid thing! Can C people help?
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:30:17 GMT

blyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>Dear C programmers:

> I have a request, and if this is not legal, don't flame me, just be gentle.

> I have version 6.0 of Lattice C, and I'm just beginning to learn C
> programming.  And, by act of massive stupidity, I think I may have erased
> an include file that I need. I never really examined what was in the include
>directories before, but after getting the same error a bunch of times
>recently, I began to inspect.  I keep getting a "file not found dos/dos.h"
>error when I try to compile.  And - hark! - there is no dos.h in my
>include:dos/ directory. I assume that there should be. If it is legal
>(I don't see why not) - could anyone who might have this file please email
>it to me (I'm sure it's only a few lines long). It would be massively
>helpful.  

Why can't you go back to your distribution?  You do have distribution
media, don't you???

>thanks a lot,

>Aaron

-- 

	Mike Bandy
	bandy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
	Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Lab
From: Ike@cup.portal.com (Ed - Eichendorf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 15 & 31 Khz monitors? Which ones???
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 23:10:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

 The NEC 3DS scans down to 15.75 kHz. And looks damn good doing it too!

Ike@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: gerwinga@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: KingFisher -- unable to save index
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:23:34 GMT

In a previous article, jil@kickapoo.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Lathrop) wrote:
>In <Bzpyp4.3x0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid) writes:
> 
>>I just downloaded version 1.11.  When I start it up, it tells me I need to
>>build the index, which I do.  When I try to quit, though, it tells me
>>"unable to save index".  What gives?
> 
>>Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
> 
>RTFM!!  You have to change the config file to tell it what the name
>of the index file is.
> 
>James Lathrop
>Iowa State University
>jil@iastate.edu

RTFM!! Perhaps you meant RTM; you're being a bit harsh on Jon.  When running a
program for the first time, I would expect some reasonable default values to
have been supplied by the programmer--and having to edit a config file first
to set these is not what I call user-friendly (god, I hate that phrase).  I
also complain (quietly) when an author (not KingFisher's)
	1. insists his support files will be in the root directory.
	2. requires a config file in S: (my S: is full of long unneeded files
		just because the default directory was not searched first
	3. thinks that all users run off df0:
	4.....
even when its all explained in the manual.

This is not to complain about KingFisher--its great and much faster than
Aquarium.  I'm sure the author will be incorporating many little improvements
over time.  You can't get them all the first or even the tenth release.
From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A1200 Notes
Distribution: world
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:54:04 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

re article by Jeff Easton discussing briefly his new Amiga 1200: There're
markings on the two extra keys (extra compared with the US 500s, etc.)  The
ones on my 1200 -- which is still the -same- 1200 with the read-only
internal floppy drive -- Commodore Express provides -no- support for the
1200 in the US whatsoever.  "We haven't gotten any of them yet, we don't
even know what they look like, go bother your dealer and ask the dealer to
swap it with another 1200"   Yeah, sure..... The dealer hasn't gotten a
second shipment of them in yet, and the dealer's comment is also,
"Commodore Express is supposed to handle that, in the first place."  If the
dealer HAD gotten ne machines in, I've been assured the machine would be
swapped.  But it's -supposed- to be Commodore Express, and within 24
hours.... it's been a week and a half..... I called Monday, I called
Thursday, on the latter I was told to call back Monday.  Commodore Express
rates an "F" for responsiveness to Amiga 1200 problem.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: 31 Dec 92  2:07:16 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> Yes, I said 1.3 Gigabytes.  There is no particular
> reason why CD-ROM discs cannot be double-sided.  They are single-sided
> now because the extra storage is not needed.

No, they are single sided now because the read head is one of the most
expensive parts in the CDROM drive and adding a 2nd read head would add a
considerable increment to the price of these drives.  Can't say what that
might be but something on the order of 50-60% doesn't sound too far off.


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