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Subject: Re: New Template format discussion document
From: jwil1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (TMOTA)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:23:43 GMT
 <1993Jan5.124449.3180@gate.esat.kuleuven.ac.be> 
 <1993Jan5.225631.27329@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> <1993Jan6.110652.19542@gate.esat.kuleuven.ac.be>
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

tytgat@esat.kuleuven.ac.be (John Tytgat) writes:

>>Argh! What about simply specifying that the text held in the icon is a
>>messagetrans tag? Then the template-loading code can lookup the necessary
>>text from the specified language-dependant messages file.

>Ok, but what about the practical implementation ? Do we specify a bit which
>determines the kind of text : plain text or messagetrans tag and define a
>path where the template, euh sorry, Glass editor can find the messagetrans
>files ? Or do we define more explicitly in the Glass file which languages
>are supported with explicit filenames (instead of a path) ?

I would say the easiest way is to specify a bit which indicates that the
text is actually a tag, and then in the application-side support code that
is supplied with the template editor, put in a method by which these
text items can be 'expanded'. Off the top of my head, I'd say a nice way to
approach this might be to register a messagetrans decoding function with
the support code, so it calls some user-defined function, passing in the
tag, and gets back a pointer to the actual string...

>I hope we never *have to* deal with messagetrans tags ourselves.  Automatic
>generation of such tags would be very helpful.

Yes. It would be a very good idea if !Glazier actually automatically generated
a messagetrans tag, and spat out a file of messages with the actual text you
typed in to the icon, automatically...

And as it's agoing to be a resource manager, it could also allow editing of
the messages file as well - easy to implement now that the ExtEdit protocol
is available... ;-) plug plug!

-- 
themasterofthearcanejwil1@cs.aukuni.ac.nzthismessagewassentonrecycledelectrons
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From: idg10@cl.cam.ac.uk (I.D. Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Max sound frequency possible on A440?
Reply-To: idg10@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:39:00 GMT

In article <kelvin.726840889@thed.uk22.bull.com>, kelvin@thed.uk22.bull.com (Kelvin J. Hill) writes:
|> Does anyone know what the MAXIMUM sound output frequency is on an A440 with
|> ARM3? I am trying to generate a sine wave output at about 100 KHZ and it
|> seemed that the Archimedes sound system might be able to manage this?
|> 
|> Any/All advice would be appreciated....
|> 
|> Kelvin.


Well, theoretically, yes, you just decrease the sample period of the sound
system, and then just play some very high notes, but I'd be very surprised
if the actual sound hardware can come close to coping with this - it seems
to have a certain amount of trouble working to its specification...

You can get it out of the VIDC, but probably not much further, particularly
not past the low pass filter.  :-)

Ian Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: chris@ioc.co.uk (Chris Howard)
Subject: RiscOS 3.x Programmers Reference Manuals
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:47:45 GMT
Organization: Intelligent Office Company Ltd.
Keywords: Riscos PRM

And on the seventh day God rested, because he had had (double had) a hard
week. On the eight day Acorn brought out the RiscOS 3.x PRM's NOT!!!!

Okay Acorn (or anybody else for that matter) when do we get our hands
on the PRMs? 

----------------

On a similar note has any body worked out how to add files to the 
Resources folder under RiscOS 3.x yet. Looking through the ResourceFS
module, I have come across two SWI's

- ResourceFS_RegisterFiles &
  ResourceFS_DeregisterFiles

Does anybody know how they work and what the correct parameters are?

Many thanks in responce to hundreds of replies

Chris
From: mckay_g@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: Suppressing floating point errors in C
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:32:17 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <memo.845760@cix.compulink.co.uk>, pmoore@cix.compulink.co.uk 
(Paul Moore) writes:
> The following code, when compiled, generates a stack backtrace,
> and the program exits with status zero. How do I get the program
> to continue to the "return 0"? (Note: I KNOW ignoring FP errors
> is not good in the general case - in this case, and in the "real"
> case where this is a problem for me, the naff value in d is never
> used, and so is harmless.)

	[ Program deleted to overcome a stupid limitation of this silly news
	  reader where you have to write more lines than you quote!]

The way I would overcome this problem is to change the FPU status/control
register to prevent what ever type of FP errors you wish to ignore.  The only
problem with this is that you would have to remember these registers and
restore them when you exit your program or if it is running under the wimp,
every time you call wimp_poll.

Rob.
From: mp2@irz212.inf.tu-dresden.de (Matthias Paschke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: What is internalError=5 in Edit???
Date: 7 Jan 1993 09:53:30 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany.
Distribution: comp
Reply-To: mp2@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de
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hello!

Try to load up to 12 fonts but not more, because !Edit can use only 
12 fonts at the same time. Thats why create a new Fonts-Directory with
12 fonts within.

matthias.
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From: adamd@rhi.hi.is (Adam David)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: VIDC Programming Question
Date: 10 Jan 93 10:24:55 GMT

In <20957@acorn.co.uk> mhardy@acorn.co.uk (Michael Hardy) writes:

>   Acorn RISC Machine family Data Manual. VLSI Technology Inc. (1990)
>   Prentice Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, USA: ISBN 0-13-781618-9

>If you quote these details to your local friendly bookshop, they should be
>able to order the manual for you.

I tried this last year, after waiting a few weeks I got the answer:
"Sorry, it's out of print." Does anyone know whether it has been reprinted,
or do we have to rely on the chance of finding an old copy somewhere?

--
Adam David (adamd@rhi.hi.is)
From: flimm@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de (Oliver Flimm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: What is internalError=5 in Edit???
Date: 4 Jan 93 12:56:21
Organization: Institute of Theoretical Physics, University of Cologne, F. R.
	Germany
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: sun.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de

Hi,

since I installed acorns scsi-interface (AKA32) and a connor scsi-drive
edit doesn't work anymore.
When loading edit, it installs on the iconbar (thats alright), but as soon
as I click select on the icon or try to click on a textfile, edit
tells me about an .....internal error =5 ..... and exits immediately.

My question: what does this strange error 5 mean, an how can I fix this
problem.

Thanx in advance 

Oliver
From: oreinert@daimi.aau.dk (Olavur Heri Reinert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: PLCC plugs?
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:46:29 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

I am interested in obtaining plugs that fit into the MEMCnd ARM chip sockets,
on which a PCB can be mounted. You know, ARM3 upgrades have one which fits
into the ARM2 socket.

Does anybody know where such plugs can be obtaint. I have tried various
well-assorted sources (?) here in Denmark, but to no avail.

/Olav

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From: li93002@black.ox.ac.uk (Matthew D Segall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: A couple of questions.
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:54:04 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford, U
Originator: li93002@black

In article <6643@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> jtn@ukc.ac.uk (Jim Noble) writes:

>Can anyone comment on Eureka? How does it compare to using, say, Pipedream?
>I know someone who is looking for a spreadsheet proggy and wanted to know if
>Eureka is any good. Comments much appreciated.

I have briefly had a play with Eureka and I found it to be excellent! It seems
to support all of the functions that Pipedream has plus a great deal more. (I
have not used Pipedream extensively so I don't guarantee that I'm 100% 
correct). The user interface seems very good indeed, although there is a 
slight gripe in that they have used their own windowing system so nice things
like 3d icons won't work. The reason they have done this is to implement a 
'split window' effect allowing 4 seperate parts of the spreadsheet to be 
viewed in the same window. I found it easier to use than Pipedream from a 
first time user's point of view. The graphing facilities do seem more limited 
than those in Pipedream 4. Anyway, my first impressions were very positive. 

>Also, could an A5000 owner tell me how the ARM3 is connected (Surface
>mount/PGA/?). If it is Surface mount, does anyone know if you can get surface
>mount PGA sockets? More importantly does anyone know a dealer willing to fit
>such a socket to an A5000. Would it invalidate the warranty?

I beleive that the ARM3 in the A5000 is surface mounted. You can surface mount
a socket in place of the chip. Try Beebug Ltd. in St. Albans, they should be
able to fit a socket for you. I don't know about the warranty though.

>Jim Noble

Matt

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From: okrumnow@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Olaf Krumnow)
Subject: GLASS format
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:52:38 GMT

How should the Glass format handle the fact that you use the text
of an item leading to a submenu, as that's submenu title, which would
be very convenient for menus you have multiple inside your menu tree,
eg. colour selection menus. It's not neccesary to keep them multiple
inside the glass file, as the only change would be the title name.

Some suggestions from anywhere?


Olaf.

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From: pmoore@cix.compulink.co.uk (Paul Moore)
Subject: Re: Suppressing floating point errors in C
Reply-To: pmoore@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 10:49:00 +0000

mckay_g@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz ("Rob") writes (regarding my problem of being
able to ignore SIGFPE in C):
 
  > The way I would overcome this problem is to change the FPU
  > status/control register to prevent what ever type of FP
  > errors you wish to ignore.
 
The problem is that there is a BUG in the FP emulator, which means that
funny things happen when you try to work with infinity/NaN (which is what
generates the SIGFPE). As a consequence, setting the FP status/control
register does not work properly (in the "proper" program where I need to do
this - I have not actually tried it for this test case).
 
I posted the FPE bug report on csa.tech, and I have sent it to Acorn, but I
know of no work-around yet. (I won't re-post it here as it's long - Email me
if you missed it and want to see a copy).
 
Gustav.
From: beck@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Carsten Beck)
Subject: Path: kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de!beck
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:03:10 GMT

Hi,

recently there has been a posting in this newsgroup or comp.sys.acorn about the availability
of 3d system icons under RISCOS 3.10. However, to activate them one/several flags
should be set in cmos ram -- but this feature doesn't seem to be officially documented :-(
Could any kind netter please mail me which bits to set/reset or give any hint
where to find this info ?

thanks in advance

-- 
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Student of CS					E-Mail:	beck@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de
Unversity of Passau, Germany
		


Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk (Hugo Fiennes)
Subject: Re: A410/1 serial port: repair or replace? 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Serial Port
Reply-To: altman@cryton.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:24:17 +0000

In article <1993Jan8.153258.23992@spider.co.uk> stuartb@spider.co.uk writes:

>The serial port on my A410/1 simply refuses to send data anymore.
>(it was working, and now it ain't). I've checked out the cable, and
>attempted to do a back-to-back, with no joy.
>
>So, rather than spending mega-$$$ on getting my machine repaired (and
>worse, being without it for ages), I was wondering:
>
>a) About a year ago someone posted saying they had ended up socketing one
>   of the serial related chips because it failed so regularly - if anyone
>   has the details then I'd like to check this out, please.
Can't remember the exact chip, but would most likely be the serial driver,
25LS32 (?) possibly. Look near the serial connector!

>  
>b) Can anyone tell me if the Serial Port twin-serial card has
>   software to allow one port to behave transparently as if it were
>   the internal port? I'm very tempted to buy this card for two
>   new serial ports that work, rather than have the broken
>   one repaired for quite probably a similar amount of money...
Nope, sorry it doesn't. The II card which did a similar thing doesn't work
like that with Risc OS 3.1 so they're having to take the 'transparent' mode
out. Hopefully everyone will support the modular serial driver spec anyway
:-)

Hugo

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From: gilbertd@cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: PLCC plugs?
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:31:52 GMT

There is a company called emulation technologies
which do a lot of different ones - they do a horrendously
expensive version which actualy coes out onto a cute
PCB - they also do a cheap plastic moulded version.

I have seen neither.

Could I enquire what you are doing?

Dave

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From: bussmann@namu01.gwdg.de (Carsten Bussmann 29207253)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: Path: kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de!beck
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:40:42 GMT
Organization: Georg-August-Universitaet Goettingen, Germany

Hallo Carsten (netter name, heisse auch so ),
du musst einfach in basic folgendes tun:

REM read byte
SYS"OS_Byte",161,&1C TO , byte%
REM EOR byte with mask for bit 1
byte% = byte% EOR 1<<1
REM Write back again
SYS"OS_Byte",162,&1C,byte%
END

viel spass damit!
mail mich mal, was fuer eine maschine hast du, was machst du damit?
studierst du in passau, wenn ja, was?

bis dann, Carsten
bussmann@namu01.gwdg.de
From: crj10@phx.cam.ac.uk (Clive Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
Subject: Re: What is internalError=5 in Edit???
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:30:37 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Telephone-Messages: +44 223 33 4900
Address: Christ's College, Cambridge CB2 3BU, ENGLAND.

In article <FLIMM.93Jan4125621@sun.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de> flimm@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de (Oliver Flimm) writes:
>Hi,
>
>since I installed acorns scsi-interface (AKA32) and a connor scsi-drive
>edit doesn't work anymore.
>When loading edit, it installs on the iconbar (thats alright), but as soon
>as I click select on the icon or try to click on a textfile, edit
>tells me about an .....internal error =5 ..... and exits immediately.
>
>My question: what does this strange error 5 mean, an how can I fix this
>problem.

That's actually an error from RiscOSLib, which means a signal was
raised and not handled. The signal in turn means that the C run-time
system caught a hardware error, i.e. an address exception, abort on
data fetch, or similar. (I forget which one error 5 is.)

Once you've tried the previously-suggested fonts problem, you could
try killing the SCSIfiler module, as this might be broadcasting odd
messages. The fonts are far more likely to be the problem, though.

--Clive.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: pla@sktb.demon.co.uk ("Paul L. Allen")
Subject: Re: Internet on the Archimedes
Reply-To: pla@sktb.demon.co.uk
Organization: Chaos
X-Newsreader: Archimedes ReadNews
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:46:17 +0000

In article <1993Jan12.155303.13091@aston.ac.uk> davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:

>   I know it is possible to set up an Archimedes to receive mail and news. I 
> believe it is possible to arrange matters for this to happen where the arch. 
> does not have a direct connection to the JANET/Internet e.g. over a dial up
> line of some kind.
>   Could someone please confirm that this is indeed the case and if so could
> someone send me (or post here) the complete instructions for how to do this.
>   I realise that various pieces of software are required but I don't know 
> exactly which ones (KA9Q? RUCP?) or where I can get them from (I know some 
> are on the Newcastle info-server).

It all depends who is providing the service...

If you can arrange a UUCP feed, then you want rucp and readnews (both from
newky, except I think rucp has been mis-named uucp.

If you have a tcp/ip feed (as available from demon internet services for
a tenner a month for dial-up access), then you need Jonathan Naylor's
ka9q and BM package.  Note that this has been subsequently modified by
Anthony Frost (vulch@kerno.demon.co.uk) to add a news download - this version
is available by ftp from demon.co.uk in /pub/archimedes and on Arcade BBS.
BM is the mailer, though you may prefer to use Anthony Frost's ReaderS (10
pounds careware) - you'll need this to read news.  In the near future, you
may see programs which let you use readnews with ka9q.

>   I'm sure this information would be of interest to others too.

Maybe not, it'll either cost 'em a tenner a month + phone bills, or they'll
have to wheedle a uucp feed from their system admins.

--Paul

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From: okrumnow@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Olaf Krumnow)
Subject: Re: New Template format discussion document
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:46:49 GMT

jwil1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (TMOTA) writes:
>>Just use the icon name as a tag to messagetrans.
>>The text inside the Glass file should only be used as a default if
>>no matching MessageTrans entry exist, or the Messages file got lost.

>In DSEdit, I have no default text in my application. This is simply because
>the messages file is so absolutely mindbogglingly important that there is
>no point in even trying to run without it... As the text for all interactions
>and the menus are messagetransed, I can't really see any point in defaults
>most of the time...

Well, it's not a must, it's a maybe. But while creating the windows
you'll have the textes anyway. While generating a messagetrans file,
the messages are there. So why not use them as default (while loading the glass
file into your program)
>-- 
>themasterofthearcanejwil1@cs.aukuni.ac.nzthismessagewassentonrecycledelectrons

Olaf.

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From: alla0008@student.tc.umn.edu (Graham Allan)
Subject: Re: What is internalError=5 in Edit???
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:02:14 GMT

In article <6781@tuegate.tue.nl> erikp@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Erik van de Pol) writes:
>Oliver Flimm (flimm@ph-cip.uni-koeln.de) wrote:
>: Hi,
>: 
>: since I installed acorns scsi-interface (AKA32) and a connor scsi-drive
>: edit doesn't work anymore.
>: When loading edit, it installs on the iconbar (thats alright), but as soon
>: as I click select on the icon or try to click on a textfile, edit
>: tells me about an .....internal error =5 ..... and exits immediately.
>
>internal error 5 means (most of the times) that a memory fault occured. Strange
>that you have this problem since you installed the interface. Most of
>the times I get this error in my own programs if I write to memory somewhere
>in hyperspace. 

Are you using RISC OS 2 with an old copy of !Edit, and have you added
extra fonts to your system since installing the SCSI card? Just a wild
guess, but this is the same error old versions of !Edit gave when they
found too many (more than about 20) fonts... 

Graham.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.tech
From: jont@harlqn.co.uk (Jon Thackray)
Subject: Objasm/Aasm conditional includes
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:21:46 GMT

Well no-one else seems to solved this problem, so here's a solution.
The problem is to avoid multiple scanning of files acquired by GET,
similar to the multiple include problem in C. Objasm and AAsm have an
operator :DEF: for seeing if variables are defined yet. Thus one can
write:-

 [ :LNOT:(:DEF:A)
 GBLA A
;
; A is actually a variable whose name should be unique to this source
; file
;
; Insert your source here
;
 ]
 END

PS This may well be using an undocumented feature, it's a long time
since I wrote the code to implement it. and even longer since I've
seen the released documentation.
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