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From: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollins.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: speedstar24x and Dr. Halo Imager
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: oliver@earthview.cms.udel.edu's message of 6 Jan 93 18:10:40 GMT

>>>>> On 6 Jan 93 18:10:40 GMT, oliver@earthview.cms.udel.edu (Oliver Weatherbee) said:

-> I have a question for anyone who purchased the Diamond Speedstar24x card
-> package which included a copy of Dr. Halo Desktop Imager software. I am
-> having a problem with the software in that after a load an image, I can't
-> do any processing or filtering. 

-> When I select "filter" from the menu, all of the options are unavailable ("greyed
-> out"). I don't get it, is this "crippleware" or what. Right now the only thing its 
-> good for is to view and convert existing files to other formats.

First convert the image to true color (24-bit), then all editing
features will be available.  Sorry, I don't remember the exact menu
function to do this, but you should be able to find it with no problem!


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: horng@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ren-Sheng Horng)
Subject: Thanks for help! #Virtual Screen#
Keywords: database, gui, C++, borland, access, paradox
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 20:52:39 GMT

After posting article "Virtual Screen for Win3.1" I got some mails
to help me finding the related softwares. I really appreciate you
guys' help. Since couldn't reach some of you, I simply post this 
message to express my appreciation. Thanks again and good luck to you!

Rensheng Horng				   
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: A4422DAB@vm.univie.ac.at (Erich Neuwirth)
Subject: Re: HELP: MAC diskettes on the PC !
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:44:25 GMT

macsee is a new shareware program which reads and writes
high density mac floppies on a pc. it is available from simtel.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: WKWINKEL@ibm.rz.uni-passau.de
Subject: Re: Why Equation Editor in WFW 2.0 can't work
Organization: University of Passau - Germany
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:02:03 GMT

In article <peter.2.726327387@cad.ee.ntu.edu.tw>
peter@cad.ee.ntu.edu.tw (Peter R. Tattam) writes:
 
>
>Hello.
>    My Equation Editor in WFW2.0 can't work correctly. Some symbo like sigma
>can't appear. And there is a message box saying that MT Extra font not
>installed correctly. But I reinstalled several times. It still can't work.
>Please Give me a hint. THANKS !!!!
>
>Chu W.H
>EE, National Taiwan University, Taiwan
>email address: r81132@cs.ee.ntu.edu.tw
Chu,
this is a bug in the installing program. You (if memory serves) have
to disinstall the MT... fonts (do not delete them) and then manually
reinstall them with the control panel.
Regards,
Olaf Winkelhake
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: bardak@tau.ac.il (Barak Cohen)
Subject: PS viewre for windows (Ghostview?) looking 4
Organization: Tel-Aviv University Computation Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:50:18 GMT

I am working with LaTex on a 386 (It is called EmTex) and I am looking
for a utility 4 browsing PS files (or EPS) something like Gnu's Ghostview
4 X11 .

Does anyone know of such windows application ?

Barak Cohen	Bardak@ccsg.tau.ac.il

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: JC924@uacsc2.albany.edu
Subject: Question about using Access
Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 11:38:32 EST

Quite a while ago I asked a question about using Access and never received
a response.  I'm not sure that it got posted, so I'll try again.  Here is
the question I asked:
 
In considering the value of Access as a database, one function which is very
important to us is the ability to use data from an Access database in
Word mail merge.  In other words, we would like to be able to insert Access
fields in a Word primary document, do a query in Access, and generate a
document for each record selected in the query.  Is this possible?  If so,
how difficult is it?  Would FoxPro for Windows be better for this function?
Does anyone know when FoxPro for Windows is coming out?
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From: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Subject: Equation spacing in WrdFW 2.0?
Reply-To: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Organization: New Mexico State University - Electromagnetics Group
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:39:28 GMT


	Some time ago I posted about a problem with Word spacing the
equations rather strangely, it turned out that the problem is that MS, in
order to get around some other problem, treated the equations as
subscripts. Well, I find myself back at the writing table and was wondering
if any of the "maintenance" releases have fixed this problem (what are they
up to anyway, has 2.0c been released yet?). The problem for me is that if
you correct the character format so that an equation is not subscripted it
makes it difficult to place an equation number anywhere that looks good.

Just wondering,
Gary Hennigan
---------
PhD Student, Computational Electromagnetics
New Mexico State University
email: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: theriaul@mdd.comm.mot.com (Roger Theriault)
Subject: WinFax PRO 3.0 problem - anyone else?
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division, Vancouver, CANADA
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:45:07 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
X-Phone: +1 604 241 6421

I've got a strange problem with WinFax PRO 3.0; I haven't called Delrina
yet but was wondering if anyone else had noticed it...

I've been sending out a mass-faxing to various media outlets over the
last few days, and have had a consistent problem with four fax numbers.
All the other machines have received my fax in roughly the same amount
of time at 9600 baud, fine mode. But these four all displayed "user 
aborted" after sending a page or two and while in the "Waiting..."
state (I guess for the confirmation that the page was received and
such). 
I checked the log and all four machines have connected at 4800 baud...
interesting!
I tried to fax in standard mode with the same results.
I quit windows and used QuickLink2 to fax the two pages (exported
from WinFax to PCX and then converted for QL2), with no problem
at all... so it's not my faxmodem (PC Logic 2400 w/ 9600 S/R, based
on the Sierra chipset, internal on COM4)

Can anyone confirm that this is happening with their copy of WinFax?
Did it also happen in version 2.0? And am I right in suspecting that
there is probably some timing thing here, where WinFax has sent
all the data to the fax card, but times out, forgetting that it takes
longer to send at 4800 baud? Could I have a handshake problem, where the
faxmodem card sent WinFax an XOFF and it ignored it and kept blasting
the data out to the card? (WinFax knows I have a Class 2 Group 3
card...) Should I just call these four radio stations and urge them
to buy new fax machines :-)

Thanks!

Roger
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: floydb@rpi.edu
Subject: re: How to run QVTNet w/ PCNFS, DIS_PKT9 ??
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:54:44 GMT

In article <29057@oasys.dt.navy.mil> ruckman@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Christopher Ruckman) writes:
>Please, some help from someone familiar with DIS_PKT9??
>
>I have PC-NFS 4.0, and would like to try out QVTNet 3.03.  I have
>(successfully, I think) installed PC-NFS to run using NDIS.  Now I need
>to install DIS-PKT9, but when it runs it gives an error message that
>reads "interrupt vector for packet driver not specified in PROTOCOL.INI".
>
>My PROTOCOL.INI contains the following:
>
>[Protocol Manager]
>drivername=PROTMAN$
>[EtherLink]
>drivername=ELNKII$
>ioaddress=0x310
>interrupt=2
>[NFS-NDIS]
>drivername=NFSLINK$
>bindings=EtherLink
>
>Is there some other place where the interrupt needs to be specified?
>
>Any hints/advice would be welcomed!
>
>Chris

There is a NFS-specific version of QVT/Net available from QPC, if
you register. If you get NFS running (requires Win 3.1, NFS 4.0)
then QVT/Net runs with very little setup, all application specific
settings no hardware specific settings.

barry


Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: jpeltoni@niksula.hut.fi (Jussi M Peltoniemi)
Subject: winword 2.0 conversions
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: comp
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:27:32


1. Winword 2.0a gives conversion error if I have more than 9 styles in my
document and I save as dos text layout.
With 9 styles or less conversion works ok.
If I have more than 9 styles and save as wp 5.1. After that I load the
document again with winword and I get GPfault in winword.exe at
001A:0F10 .
Again if there is less or equal 9 styles there is no GPfault.

2. Another problem is that there is no indentation in wp5.1 file if I
have indentation in styles in winword.

I think these two are bugs and wonder if there is any fix for it.

PS. to reduce style numbers to less than 10, I must copy and paste the
whole document with about 20 paragraph pieces to a new document. with
this I can remove styles such as toc1, toc2 and footnote.

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From: roger@uvmark.uucp (Roger MacNicol)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WPWIN 5.2 Envelopes % DJ500??
Date: 5 Jan 93 14:30:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1993Jan05.143053.54292
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan5.013436.23633@midway.uchicago.edu> gmf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>OK i just got off the phone with WP>  THey say lots of us
>Desjet 500 users can't get the Envelope macro to work. Great.
>
>So far, I've figured out that we most change the paper size
>to Portrait, not landscape, since we feed our envelopes in
>portrati.  I then tried to change the paper size to 8.5 x 4.12
>but the stupid program keeps changing it to 4.12 x 8.5 no
>matter what i do.
>
>Anyone have any ideas????????
>

This is only a problem with the new HP 3.0 driver for the Deskjet; it is
not a problem with either the Microsoft driver or the WordPerfect
driver; so, set up a macro to switch drivers whenever you want to
print an envelope or just stick with Microsoft driver which doesn't
have that annoying little clock face that whizzes round wasting cpu time
as it formats each page.

- Roger



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From: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollins.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Windows-Based UNIX Email Reader
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:05:53 GMT
Reply-To: Greg.Reinacker@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: perrocho@inf.ethz.ch's message of 6 Jan 93 07:52:54 GMT

> In article <28218@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a Windows-based package that can get 
>the mail from the /usr/mail/spool file on Unix and allow 

Try the Cinetic Mail Manager, available on cica and other locations.  I
believe the filename is cmm21s.zip (for Windows 3.1 -- different
filename for 3.0).  It does exactly what you describe, assuming you have
an NFS mount to your Unix mail directory.

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From: akm@atlantix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: HELP: MAC diskettes on the PC !
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:23:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1993Jan10.222341.12568
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <gfI8g3O00WB6I4SFF6@andrew.cmu.edu> Sparrow+@CMU.EDU (Kin Chan) writes:
>I have tried using macsee.zip (or macsee20.zip) in Win 3.1. Although the
>author claims that the program is capable of reading 800K and 1.44 Mb
>disks, the 800K part failed. It is able to read my High-Dens Mac disks,
[]
>I managed to get a copy of mac-ette.zip in 134.95.80.1, by using Archie
>Archive Search. It WORKS but only on 1.44 Mb disks. The author claims
>that 800K disks (and anything lower) are almost impossible to read
>without extra hardware. 

My dim and hazy recollections of how the mac was originally designed
are that the low density drives (800K), were designed to be fixed
linear velocity as opposed to fixed angular velocity.

This means that as you move closer to the center of the disk, the disk
speeds up so that the milimeters per second that the head sees are the
same. 

The 1.44 mb drives, and the drives used on PCs are constant angular
velocity, i.e. the disk spins at the same speed all the time.

In order for a PC to read a Mac 800k disk, it needs special hardware,
such as the Central Point Option Board.

cheers,

kartik

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: MS Word upgrade worth it?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:05:44 GMT

What everyone seems to forget (since Word 1.0 has, in my mind, been 
long gone and buried) were all the discussions about bad memory handling 
that 1.0 was famous for. Not too surprising, since it was released
back in the Windows 2.11 days and was written to run under, but not 
really take advantage, of Windows 3.0. It UAE'ed a lot, I remember, 
and is just plain ugly compared to WinWord 2.

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From: pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: MS-Access file format
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:22:33 GMT

jonathon.twigg@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathon Twigg) writes:

>  The Run Time part will not be out for a while, So when you develpoe a 
>program in Access you have to get the client to buy access.

>  Hope this help (though I know that it dosen't).

>--- WinQwk 2.0 #0

Isn't Access able to create stand-alone executables?
Is the current version ablt to do this,
or will this be in the upcoming developers version?

Do you happen to know whether or not current 
registered owners will get a break on the
developers version?


= Mark



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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Subject: need help on Windows 3.1 ``repaint'' problem...
Followup-To: william@cs.ucla.edu
Keywords: win31, windows, 3.1, repaint, borland, turbo
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 19:24:46 GMT

Hi,
        I have a ``repaint''-related problem.  I'm using Borland
compilors.  The problem occurs for both the Turbo C/C++ Compilor
(version 3.0) and the Borland C/C++ Compilor (version 3.1) under
Windows 3.1.  The problem does NOT occur for the above compilors
under Windows 3.0.

        Basically, my application creates a few standalone windows.
Among them, the one which is deepest in the stacking order does not
get WM_PAINT messages when InvalidateRect() is called.  If I select
the deepest window, it gets the delayed WM_PAINT and WM_ERASEBKGND
messages.  Also, if one of those windows is iconified, it acts like
the deepest window and the icon doesn't get redrawn.

        Does any know what can cause WM_PAINT messages not to be
posted when InvalidateRect() is called?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh)
Subject: New version of Icon Library on cica
Organization: Monash University, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:04:38 GMT

A new version of my Icon Library (icolib02.zip) has been placed into the
uploads directory on CICA. It will eventually be relocated from uploads
to the icons directory.

ftp.cica.indiana.edu:/pub/pc/win3/uploads/icolib02.zip
monu6.cc.monash.edu.au:/pub/win3/uploads/icolib02.zip (in Australia)


Replaces icolib01.zip in icons directory

Version:        2.196
Archive name:   icolib02.zip
Archive size:   526K
Archive date:   Jan 1993

Functions:
                Group icons into libraries (user configurable)
                Display of icon libraries (with scrolling)
                Facility to animate icon sequences
                Provide almost 3000 icons in 66 libraries
                Help facilities



Regards,
         Steve

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From: Kai_Rohrbacher@p7.badendoor.fido.de (Kai Rohrbacher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Summary: TrueTypeFont-Bug
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:35:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


As promised, here is a short summary towards the TTF-bug which I depicted here 
lately:

  Most  of you meant, that the problem is caused by the font(s) itself,
  not meeting some TTF-specifications.
  However,  it  was in fact a memory problem caused by Windows' default
  settings! One of you (TNX Kevin!) had the answer:

>  In response to inquiry about having problems printing (and displaying)
>TrueType fonts (especially complex characters), the solution may be to
>change the OutlineThreshold= setting in Win.INI under Truetype settings
>.  All of this is explained better in the Windows Resource Kit manual,
>but the default for this is 256, which means when a font passes 256
>pels(pixels)-per-em, the font will no longer be a bitmap but an outline
>font.  Generally if you are low on memory, or if the font is
>particularly complex, you lower the value.  Note bitmap fonts are
>faster, but take more memory. Tweaking with this value, may produce
>better results both on the printer and on the screen.  You might want
>to try a value real low (say 50), see if it works, and move up from
>there if it does.

  I  haven't  found  the  optimal  value (yet), but 50 does work (in my
  case).  However,  this  solution  is  no panacea: the machine becomes
  incredibly  sloooow  and the chars printed out are more "jagged" then
  before  (especially  visible  with  script like fonts in medium point
  sizes (~18pt)).

  Oh  yes,  a  last  note  applies: The problem seems to be well known,
  quite a lot of people wrote me having the same problem. Nevertheless,
  Microsoft  obviously  didn't  thought that it's necessary to document
  such  things:  neither in about 200K README-files nor ~1000 pages doc
  accompanying my Win 3.1, the above switch is documented!

Shame on you, MicroSoft!

TNX to everybody,
 Kai

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From: psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: GUI word processing... Ami Pro or WP4W or Word 4win
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:38:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I have a 286 machine with windows 3.1 loaded on it. I am 
thinking about getting a GUI word processor for Windows. Which, 
between the following three, would be ok for the 286? Word for 
Windows; Ami Pro, or Word Perfect for Windows?


=============================
Robert Weiss
psyrobtw@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: kristian@Siri.Unit.NO (Kristian Martinsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: WfW2.0: How to set new defaults for frames?
Date: 10 Jan 93 10:42:55 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

Sorry, my questiuon in article 6180 was wrong. I want to set the defaults for the frames in WfW2.0
Of course i can allways make macro which quickly formats frames, but thee must be
a way the set new defaults?

Kristian.
From: stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz (Stefan Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Norton Anti-Virus for Windows Update Files ?
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 07:28:24 +1200

In <C0M6qD.31K@magna.com> doc@magna.com (Matthew J. D'Errico) writes:
>PKWARE also has a notice about NAV 2.0 reporting false positives.

Does anyone know what the upgrade cost to 2.1 is??

Thanks,
Stefan

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: W4W to Word for Mac - Help!
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:07:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec24.085913.21140@lut.ac.uk> A.D.Bailey@lut.ac.uk (Adrian D.Bailey) writes:

>>Even with system 7.0 on the Mac, you MUST use Apple File Exchange to read
>>and copy the PC file to your Mac hard drive.  If not, the Mac will not
>>recognize the disk and ask to format it.  

>Much better than Apple FIle Exchange, and far easier to use is
>PC Exchange, which installs as an extension to the system, and allows
>your Mac to read PC disks "transparently".  The only way you'll know
>the disk is in PC format is that its desktop Icon has PC written on it.
>The product costs around 50 pounds here in UK, I believe it will be bundled
>in the near future.

There is also something called Access PC which does the same thing. I
also recall someone mentioning a TSR that allowed PCs to read/write 
Mac HD disks (though what it does with resource forks I have no idea).
They took Access PC out of our Mac labs because people were saving Mac 
work onto PC disks and losing it (no resource fork).



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