From: clavazzi@nyx.cs.du.edu (The_Doge)
Subject: Re: Christian Pro-Choicers
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:57:24 GMT

In article <C0q3Gx.KEr@athena.cs.uga.edu> hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) writes:
>In article <PASSARET.93Jan11184034@vane.med.ge.com> Mike Passaretti <passaretti@crd.ge.com> writes:
>>link> to diminish their credibility.  If you take a look at
>>link> some of the largest pro-life organizations, you will see
>>link> that they oppose violence, like bombing clinics.
>>
>>Actually, you will see that they claim to oppose these
>>tactics, but do not put the energy into preventing them that
>>they do into blocading clinics, for instance.  Priorities, I
>>know, but I had to comment.  Claiming to oppose and doing
>>nothing about it bears a striking resemblance to support, or
>>at least to acceptance...
>
	Besides which, if they *didn't* claim to oppose criminal activity
they'd be in a shaky legal position, to say the least.  There's just no way
to determine how much of this is sincere opposition to vandalism and how much
is the old C.Y.A. routine.
	In the case of Mr. Hudson, it seems to be the latter, based on this
next paragraph:

>How are they to stop them.  You can't be at every abortion facility at the 
>middle of the night.  Do you think clinic bombers go to pro-life meetings
>and say, "hey, I just bombed a clinic."  Besides, the goal of the pro-life
>movement is not keeping the slaughterhouses safe.  What pro-lifer is going
>to shed a tear over an abortion clinic being destroyed, even if vehemently
>disagrees with the tactic?
>
	I see.  They call clinics "slaughterhouses", call doctors "murders",
claim that all the news media are arrayed against them, support their clerics
as they pray for the deaths of doctors and judges...and then they're simply
*shocked* when some of their more unbalanced members decide to act on their
rhetoric.  Ever seen the play "Becket"?  Remember Henry's plea "Will no one
rid me of this priest?"
	To quote Paul Simon (no, NOT the one with the bow ties): "Who do you
think you're foolin'?"
	This is part of the basic difference between his attitude and mine, I
guess.  I certainly *would* "shed a tear" if some thug blew up an OR office
or some other anti-abortion facility.  Not because I have any respect for that
organization, but because these acts of violence violate the laws which hold
our society together.  Is Mr. Hudson under the impression that his movement is
above the law?
[...]
>
>>Ah, the great liberal media conspiracy.  So buy a(nother) TV
>>station, as if the GodSquad(tm) didn't own enough of them
>>already. 
>
>No.  I don't believe that people in the media are in a conspiracy.  But they
>do show news that they consider important according to their own agendas.
>And the media in this country for the most part has a pro abortion bias.
>
	Another unsupported assertion.  The repeated violations of the law by
OR and other groups are a matter of public record.  The high-volume invective
and physical assaults have been documented by eye-witnesses, including some
on this very net.  Unless, of course, the term "bias" is being used to refer
to the lack of an obvious bias in the pro-life direction.  That seems to be the
way the term is used by most left-wing and right-wing media advocates these
days.

The_Doge

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