HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau)
Subject: Re: Those Breakdancing Rocks.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 04:50:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <memo.573343@cix.compulink.co.uk> asm332@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>In article <63840@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>>Dear Potential Rock Star Owners: The way Dr. Demonde proved that the 
>                                                      ******
>>rocks were moving was to put a time lapse camers on them and it was 
>>found that the rocks move very slowly (the fastest moved 7 inches 
>>in 14 weeks time) a sort of expanding and contracting motion as it 
>>hunched its way across the table. More to come later.
>
>So Dr Demonde claims to have used time lapse photography to record
>these motions ?   How do you know  the effect was not  produced by
>stop-motion photography;  have you seen the film ?   You seem very
>gullible if you are ready to believe rocks can  move by themselves
>on the basis of a roll of film.   That's not proof.
>
>-Sean.
>
>Thanks for your little science lesson, Sean. 

I feel sorry for you young men, so quick to form your opions of reality
in such short order... Little carbon copies all over the place.
Well Prof. so and so sez...

Actually, "higher sources" assure us that all matter does indeed have
an intelligence of it's own; in its own way. But, I forgot, you guys
are all omnipotent already, so I don't need to point that out.

This is where the "intelligence" of crystals comes from. Yes, I used
to poo-poo this myself. But after reading what about 15 different UFO contactee
types have to say about the subject, I am begining to see that on a more
subtle level than we are used to dealing with, such things are very
likely indeed.

Jeff-

>
>---
>asm332@cix.compulink.co.uk | warlock%spuddy@uknet.ac.uk
>Wanted: UK catalogue numbers for Jefferson Airplane CDs
From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ley Lines
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:49:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <63863@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes...
>---My question is; How much has the Earth grown in those 4.5 to 4.7 
>billion year? Could this be the reason why forests are thousands of feet
>underground from which we get natural gas? Could this be the reason
>we find one city built on the ruins of another city with a clear clean
>layer of dirt between the cities?
>John Winston

I don't suppose "plate tectonics" means anything to you?
-Tom R.   randolph@est.enet.dec.com
From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ley Lines
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:42:35 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <qt_n41=.jeffp@netcom.com> jeffp@netcom.com (Jeff Papineau) writes:
>Dear Ra,

It's RA, not Ra (but I forgive you).

>Since you persist in reading this group, and are starting to ask 
>questions in a fairly sincere sort of manner, I will lay a few sources
>of esoteric information on you. 
>
>Crystal Skull - The Excaliber Briefings,  
>Thomas E. Bearden
>
>Venusians - Stranger at the Pentagon - Dr. Frank stranges
>            I come from Venus, - Wendle Stevens, Col.(ret.)
>
>These are the best sources for this info I have found to date.

I will attempt to find these.  In the meantime, could you summarize the 
evidence in favor of an ancient origin of Max (the skull)?

	RA
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 08:45:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: aliens, invasion, stollman

mfm0@ellis.uchicago.edu (martin frederic melhus) writes:

>Gary - 

>Why don't you just move to Fiji, or some remote place?  Blow off
>everyone and everything and get out.  I've heard that it's nice
>there, and it sure sounds like you need a change of scenery.

>-- 
>                          | You have all the time from when you remove the |
>     Martin F. Melhus     | card(s) from your hand until you put it (them) |
> mfm0@midway.uchicago.edu | on the pile to say "Last Card".  If you don't, |
>                          | take your two. - Hidden texts, Book of MauMau. |

*****
Thanks for the suggestion...If I hadn't discovered Tallahassee, I probably
would take it...But I live in what is the most wonderful place in the
country, a place that took me seven long years and much traveling all over
the country to find...I AIN'T giving it up cause a bunch of cowardly
Reagan's and Bush's decided to try to ruin my life and violate my
rights...I am gonna show them what it means to fuck with MY family!!!

-- 
Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
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From: jmv@halibut.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Sighting in New Brunswick, Canada
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:14:48 GMT
Organization: GRASP Lab

In article <1992Aug13.152848.10569@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, rutkows@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski) writes:

[...]
> In other countries, try GEPAN, SOBEPS, BUFORA, NUFON, or whoever.  But
> report the sightings to someone!  Statistically, even UFOs that turn
> out to be IFOs are useful as data.
> 


Just a precision, GEPAN was the (government subsidized) UFO report organization
in France. It was dismanteled recently, because of lack of evidences of UFOS
(official explanation. Personally, I think the police was tired to go and 
investigate UFO sightings too often).


JM.
From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: physical evidence
Date: 17 Aug 92 06:57:48 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <1992Aug14.223643.735@javelin.sim.es.com> KHATCH@130.187.170.178 (Kellan Hatch) writes:
>    It sounds like sleepwalking/telepathy would be a convenient excuse for the
>"victim" to turn off the camera and then make up a nice story of what
>followed. 


I can't argue with the hypothesis...  any number of abductees could
possibly be frauds...  similar to those used by the Amazine Randee.

I, personally, would like to see the stories confirmed.  The latest
case by Bud Hopkins, however, sounds suspicious.  If nothing else,
to quote the Church Lady...  "How convenient!".

Rick

-- 
Rick Pavek                       | Never ask a droid to outdo its program.
kuryakin@bcstec.boeing.com       |           
AppleLink:  kuryakin             | It wastes your time           
r.pavek1@GENIE                   |          and annoys the droid.  
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: hpesonen@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Subject: Alien visitors?
Reply-To: hpesonen@vipunen.hut.fi (Harri P Pesonen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:30:30 GMT

Hello, I subscribed to this newsgroup a couple of days ago, because
I saw a fascinating (!) program about UFOs in our local telly.
It was an american program which covered all usual (?) facts (:-))
about extra terrestials, like Project Blue Book.

I was hoping to find more info about ETs on this newsgroup, but so far
the most interesting thing has been some weird story about mental 
hospitals, called INVASION!!  

Don't any of you have a real personal experience about UFOs?  If you do,
would you be so kind to share that with me.  At least, would you be
able to answer the following question:

Are there any alien visitors on earth or not?

Or better yet:

Are there any alien visitors on this newsgroup?


Thanks,
		Harri
-- 
Harri Pesonen, Helsinki, Finland, Europe?
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From: bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (Bob Cannard @ PCB x5565)
Subject: Re: Guns and Skeptics
Originator: bcannard@hppcb36
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:34:15 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


In article <exukjb.82.714078009@exu.ericsson.se>, exukjb@exu.ericsson.se (ken bell) writes:
|> In article <BsGCJq.CwB@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
|> >Then why do most wealthy countries EXCEPT the USA get by without
|> >massive gun ownership AND lower crime rates than the US.  Are
|> >you claiming that if the UK was to allow everyone to own guns
|> >that crime would not increase as a result of this,   as criminals
|> >used guns to commit more robberies etc.
|> 
|> Probably because their penal systems are better than ours.

One thing to think about: the British police don't routinely carry guns, but
the gun locker is opened if they believe they are dealing with a gun-totin'
criminal. This may be enough to deter some from using the things, whereas
in the US they're going to get shot anyway so what the hell...
-- 
bob_cannard@mentorg.com         "Human beings? ... Well, I suppose they are a
                                 form of life, even if they are unspeakable"
Exprssed opinions are not necessarily those of Mentor Graphics Corporation.
Newsgroups: alt.california,misc.consumers.house
From: ckp@netcom.com (Charles Pooley)
Subject: Re: ?? Indoor Water Fountain:Calif Style ??
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:29:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Fountains with built-in strobe lights?


Has anyone heard of small fountains with strobe lights, to give the
effects of slow motion/other stroboscopic effects?   I've been considering
the design/construction of something like that...
-- 
Charles Pooley                  ckp@netcom.com    GEnie  c.pooley
EE consultant, Los Angeles, CA
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Paradise lost and Medi-Cal...
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:19:23 GMT

andrewg@ece.cmu.edu (Andrew R. Ghali) writes:


     [Long, reactionary tirade basically saying, almost in so many 
      words, "If you aren't an affluent Republican then fuck off
      and die."]

>Yeah, I was born in California, and just left after working for 5
>years in so. cal and I have no intention of returning. ...

   Well, thank God.  We've got enough raving reactionary loonies in this
state.

>No, I'm not really a mean person, I just hate whining.

   No, you don't just hate whining, you really are a mean person. 
--


Jon Corelis               jon@lindy.stanford.edu
Stanford University       BITNET:  BR.JGC@RLG.STANFORD.EDU
From: marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Paradise lost and Medi-Cal...
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:30:03 GMT
Organization: Harris Computers Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale,FL

In article <1992Aug19.155004.245@gdr.bath.ac.uk> mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf) writes:
>It's people reaping financial benifit
>out of the suffering of others.

Some doctors even have two rates: one for those without insurance (lower)
and one for those with insurance (higher). On one hand they might be trying
to be nice to those without insurance. On the other hand, it jacks up the 
"usual and customary" charges that the insurance companies calculates
based on what doctors in an area usually charge.

Some doctors also charge less if you assign benefits to them, i.e. the
reimbursement checks go directly to them. This would be fine, however,
some of these same doctors also add charges to the bill so that the
insurance company gets billed for services you didn't actually get.

Some doctors also work with lawyers who defend accident cases.
Yeah, those lawyers you see on TV - "Have you been in an accident ?"
and all that crap. These doctors make up imaginary injuries like
back pain, neck pain, emotional trauma, etc, so that the lawyer
can sue for mega-bucks whereas the "accident" was relatively minor.

Doctors are in a very honorable profession. Too bad, too many abuse
their position in society.


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From: jphillip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Shadow)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: LOSERS!!!
Keywords: ASSHOLES, FAGGOTS, AND SLUTS...
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:36:48 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


	Well, that was certaintly interesting ...

	And now hopefully on to something more intelligent and interesting ...

-- 
	Peace, Love, and Armagheddon.
		jphillip@sage.cc.purude.edu
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Housing in Monterey area
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:23:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


But I wonder what the closing of Fort Ord will do to rentals in
Monterey-Salinas area.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
        Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
Xref: sparky alt.california:1632 rec.travel:12057
From: erik@alcbase.gun.de (Erik Forker)
Newsgroups: alt.california,rec.travel
Subject: California info wanted!!!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:32:15 GMT
Organization: alchemist's research kitchen


HI EVERYBODY!

On Friday the 28th of August my girlfriend and me will fly to California
for four weeks. We have rented a car to travel through the country.
The following places will be part of our journey: San Francisco, Lake
Tahoe, Death Valley, Las Vegas, Grand Canyon, Phoenix,
San Diego, Los Angeles...
Since we have four weeks, we were in no hurry and would like to stop at some
interesting places. Could you please give us some advice about spending
our time the best way??

-What are some places we should include?
-Do you know some inexpensive motels on our trip?
-Is it necessary to book motel-rooms in advance (for ex. in Furnace Creek)?

An other important question for us is: What is the best place to buy 
the following goods and what is their price in the USA:

For my camera (Minolta Dynax 7000i) I need an object lens of following
type: AF 1,4/50mm or AF 1,7/50mm. Perhaps you can mail me some FAX
numbers of camera-stores in SF and surrounding.

I want to buy several parts for my mountain bike. Do you know some
good shops which are on our way?

Well, thank you very much for your help. It is of great assistance.
If you could tell me anything you might think would be of help,
let me know (mail or fax)

Erik

-- 
  Erik Forker	      	   erik@alcbase.gun.de  
  voice: +49-211-254259    fax: +49-211-254260
  Duesseldorf              Germany
From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Any cheap places to sleep in San Fran?
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:18:16 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Aug20.014026.17223@cis.ohio-state.edu> romeo@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
<
<I am visiting a friend in LA in a couple of weeks and we plan on driving
<the Pacific Coast highway up to San Fran and we want to stay overnight
<somewhere cheap. Why? We are college students and the word POOR always 
<follows the word COLLEGE:) We are just doing a 2 day deal up in San Fran.
<I appreciate anybody's information on places that are relatively cheap.
<(We'll camp somewhere or sleep in the car somewhere safe if we have too:))


I haven't lived in the city for a few years, but I don't think I'd sleep
in the car unless I had a van or something windowless, and with good
locks on the doors.  The cops will roust you, for one, especially in
decent neighborhoods.  In non-decent neighborhoods, it's too much of a gamble.
There's a youth hostel at the north end of Van Ness, and another one
across the Golden Gate in Marin at Fort Cronkite (I think), part of the
Golden Gate National Recreation Area.  You might like that one better:  it's
only a few miles from town, secluded, and is walking distance from a pretty
decent beach (Rodeo Beach).   Other than that, I believe rooms in cheap
motels along Lombard Street (the part that doubles as US 101) can be
had for around $50/night if you ask around.  
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: OOPS!!!
Keywords: Losers of the major kind...
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:26:03 GMT
Reply-To: kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <9z!nydp.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
>Nope!  SORRY!!  I was born in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and boy, am I glad. 
>I'm PROUD AS PUNCH to have NOT been born in a LOSER state like
>CaliFARTnia!!  Where the assholes are just mindless cowards!!  I won't

[continued rantings of a madman deleted...]

>Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN

What's this, Gary?  Found somewhere new to display your sick mind?

Folks, if you really want to know about Gary, check out Alt.alien.visitors
sometime.  Gary readily admits to being institutionalized, etc. - but -
and now get this - he claims it is all the fault of aliens!

Fuck off, Gary.  Stuff it up your anus, where your sick little mind lives.
Better yet, drop on by my office sometime.  I'll be most pleased to personally
feed you to the Greys.


--
Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
From: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Train from SF to Chicago
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:57:26 GMT
Reply-To: lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
in Message-ID: <1992Aug10.194443.25349@Cadence.COM> writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug10.103632.3749@cl.cam.ac.uk> jmsd@cl.cam.ac.uk (Matthew Doar) writes:
>>travelling from SF to Chicago by train? How long does it take? How much is it?
>>I bet the view beats flying. A long train journey is a thing of beauty
>>and great pleasure.
>
>SF to Chicago by train is probably at least 2 days (assuming no delays/mishaps,
>which one shouldn't assume with Amtrak in my experience).
[further discourse on how inconvenient trains are in most of the U.S.]

I agree wholly with Pete.  

However, if you're still interested, I looked into this for my mother
a few years ago.  You have two basic possibilities.  (1) SF-->Seattle,
switch trains, then over to Chicago.  (2) SF-->LA, switch trains, then
over to Chicago.  The northern route is supposed to be quite spectacular,
especially if you keep going up towards Alaska.  I remember this being
quite a bit more expensive than what your average American citizen would
pay for a discount airline ticket in any case.  $350+.<--that's a
SF-Chicago airline ticket for real cheap.  The train costs more.
...by how much, I forget...possibly one decimal point over to the right.

Terence
Newsgroups: alt.california
From: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
Subject: Anyone watched Romancing the Three Kingdoms?
Reply-To: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 00:11:22 GMT


Did anyone watched the show/series of the Romancing of the Three
Kingdoms?

Please e-mail.

-- 
No one is a failure... Keep up your dream and you will find it!
Ask always WISDOM from God!

Newsgroups: alt.california
From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Subject: Re: OOPS!!!
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 01:29:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Losers of the major kind...

kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn) writes:

>In article <9z!nydp.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
>>Nope!  SORRY!!  I was born in Elizabeth, New Jersey, and boy, am I glad. 
>>I'm PROUD AS PUNCH to have NOT been born in a LOSER state like
>>CaliFARTnia!!  Where the assholes are just mindless cowards!!  I won't

>[continued rantings of a madman deleted...]

>>Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN

>What's this, Gary?  Found somewhere new to display your sick mind?

>Folks, if you really want to know about Gary, check out Alt.alien.visitors
>sometime.  Gary readily admits to being institutionalized, etc. - but -
>and now get this - he claims it is all the fault of aliens!
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It just so happens, bozo, it ain't the entire fault of aliens, but the
sicko freaks from CaliFARTnia like yourself.    
   
   
   
>Fuck off, Gary.  Stuff it up your anus, where your sick little mind lives.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice language from a "normal" person, huh?  DROP DEAD, FRED!!


>Better yet, drop on by my office sometime.  I'll be most pleased to personally
>feed you to the Greys.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm gonna feed you to the American people!!

>--
>Kevin Quinn                         | kevinq@ingres.com
>                                    | {mtzinu,pacbell,ll-winken,sun}!ingres.com
>My opinions are my own.  Should you think otherwise, think again.
*****
I hope that means you work for Pacbell...I'm suing them too!!

-- 
Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
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Newsgroups: alt.california
From: bhjelle@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: OOPS!!!
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:57:04 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: Losers of the major kind...

In article <cs0m=+#.garys@netcom.com> garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman) writes:
>
>Gary Stollman    Internet: garys@netcom.com     GEnie: G.STOLLMAN
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Get a life.

Brian

Newsgroups: alt.california