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From: re_sims@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DJ-580 antenna & mods**Bryan, att:
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:51:51 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Jul25.114842@IASTATE.EDU>, bryanw@IASTATE.EDU (Bryan J Welch) writes:
> I recently (yesterday) got a Alinco DJ-580 some of my friends told me that I
> would be better off with a different antenna on it.  Any opinions or comments?
> 
> Also, if anyone had any mods to extend the range of the DJ-580, I would 
> really appreciate it if you could e-mail me a copy, or where to get them.
> 
> Thanks for the help!
> 
> -Bryan Welch
> bryanw@iastate.edu
> 

Bryan,

  I tried to send you a copy of mods and new manual, unable
to e-mail you.

Jim N4JDP
re_sims@vax.muskingum.edu
From: jmorris@spider.co.uk (John Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Morris is a cat
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:32:19 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <14570452@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
>In rec.radio.amateur.misc, dnewkirk@arrl.org (Dave Newkirk) writes:
>
>>Why only Morris code? What about those who prefer their Morris 
>>hot?
>
>Any Morris that, and I'm going QRT.
>
>AL N1AL

I've never posted to this group - so how come you are all talking about me?

John Morris, GM4ANB
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Subject: Re: music over the radio.
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 14:41:27 GMT

pjml@swmis.nerc-swindon.ac.UK (Pete Lucas) writes:

>I frequently make use of music over ham radio for test purposes! My normal
>test-piece is '4 minutes 33 seconds' by John Cage. This is *totally* legal 
>in *all* countries.

>BTW, I have numerous live recordings of this work  :-) :-)
> 
>(For the musicologically disadvantaged, '4 minutes 33 seconds' consists of
> four minutes and 33 seconds of total silence; it is therfore perfectly legal
> to transmit either as a conventional audio transmission, or using any 
> conceivable form of encryption/encoding)
> 
>        ---G6WBJ---   Pete Lucas   PJML%SWMIS.NSW.AC.UK@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK

And here are the words to it:
































Dave
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From: kchen@Apple.COM (Kok Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: tough life?
Keywords: never
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:10:14 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:

>tonyp@convex.com (honey bunny) complains:

>>You say you've got it tough?

>>When I was a novice, we didn't have telegraph keys;

>>We ran A-0 emission, plugged our transmitters into the 
>>switched wall outlet, and stood by the doorway, toggling
>>the light switch.

>>I tell yah - it was rough!

>Light switches?  Looxury, lad, looxury!   We had to get up at 6 a.m. 
>and carve cats' whiskers out of blocks of galena.  Then our dad would
>make us grind lumps of graphite to make headphones.  Then we had to
>operate the treadmill to charge up the batteries.


Aiya! Batteries? What are those things?  We had to make our own
Volta cells.  Galena? Cat wiskers?  We had to grind our own graphite
for the coherer!

On top of that, we had to work through all the QRM generated by
Guglielmo and Heinrich.

You young punks have it so easy!

.... ..

Kok Chen, AA6TY				kchen@apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: dave@hp1 (David Vrona)
Subject: Need plans for 2m preamp!!!
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 21:50:10 GMT
Organization: Hollister Incorporated,  Libertyville, IL


I need a kit or plans for building a preamp for 2m use.  I need to have
RF sensing circuitry to go along with it.  Has anybody seen something like
this?

Any help would be appreciated.

thanks

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From: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Reciprocal Licences in the U.K
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:34:05 GMT
Reply-To: michael@vk2bea.UUCP (Michael G. Katzmann)
Organization: Broadcast Sports Technology, Crofton. Maryland.

In article <545@bongo.UUCP> julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey) writes:
 >
 >	Really? In fact the difference between a U.S. no-code
 >Technician and a U.S. General is 13 wpm Morris. There is no futher test
 >for General, but there is another test for Advanced.
 >
 >	See the ARRL manual for further detail.

So is element 3B no longer required for a general?  (Or do you now
have to do it for a no code tech?)

 >	So, now I just have to renew my Brit call every year and send
 >fifteen quid to Maggie Thatcher and Successors. My U.S. call is free,
 >lasts 10 years and gets re-upped automatically for another 10 years if I
 >file a change of address.

Yes but it's your G licence that lets you operate in Europe (CEPT)
without further paperwork. 


-- 
Michael Katzmann	  >	Broadcast Sports Technology Inc.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~	 <	Crofton, Maryland. U.S.A
Amateur Radio Stations:   >
NV3Z / VK2BEA / G4NYV	 <	opel!vk2bea!michael@uunet.uu.net
From: jay@zen.CAc.stratus.COM (Jay Appell)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: More Alinco Information
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:16:18 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I sent a piece of mail to all members of the ALINCO users list I maintain.
If you didn't receive a short mailer from me about ONE HOPEDALE CENTER and
Tad, a new member to Alincos customer support, then you aren't on the users list.
I have had a few pieces of mail that I can't find a way back to. If you want to
be placed on the Alinco mailing list, or can't seem to see your name on it, send
me mail with a telephone number where you can be reached. 

Three rejects include:


rsj@mathcs.emory.edu  
jose@inqmind.bison.mb.cape.at.com
marcplummer@ftp.com.

For those of you whohave a computer, you can obtain online manuals for the
DR-590, DJ-560 or DJ-580. Mods are also available. Call ONE HOPEDALE CENTER
at 508-478-6969 from 7am to 9pm et. There have been problems over the last 3 weeks
with the BBS and all new equipment has been installed. Baud rates upto 9600 are
supported. I can usually be reached at this number after 9pm et should you want
to talk.

Feel free to pass any and all information along to servers or friends.

Regards to all.

Jay (KA1SNA)
From: OLLAPALLY%TSU.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Dream Repeater
Date: 22 Jul 1992 10:48:15 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I've received a request from a foreign repeater society to recommend a
"dream repeater" configuration for 2 meters with recommendations for the
actual repeater, antenna, controller, duplexer, power amplifier, back-up
power supply etc. Any suggestions wil be appreciated. Will summarize if
the response is interesting. 73, Philip (W2XP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Subject: Re: Comp.dcom.telecom Moderator attacks ham radio
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:49:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

jim@n5ial.chi.il.us writes:

>Pat will probably see that post, which disagrees with his view (which, we
>all know, is the only possible viewpoint), and trash it....  after all,
>not only does it contain unauthorized viewpoints, it also cites examples....

That's not entirely true.  Pat has many times passed on dissenting posts.

There *ARE* problems in the ham bands.  I think it is more a difference
that Pat has just given up on it (and not considered even becoming a ham
for instance) whereas we have not (yet, apparently) given up.
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Is it "business" if I use and autopatch to... 
From: jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 16:41:46 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Grendel's Lair


In article <Jul.23.11.37.24.1992.7391@pilot.njin.net> ron@pilot.njin.net writes:

(The > > remarks were from my original posting)

  > > If it means you have to walk 50 feet to a call box and wait an hour
  > > like the rest of humanity, THAT is merely an inconvience and doesn't
  > > justify using the auto patch. 
  > 
  > Bullshit.

        I love it. When you can't offer a rational rebuttal use profanity.

        Now back to the ORIGINAL POINT of this. The key phrase is imminent
danger of loss of life (or property). Large traffic accident? Bodies laying
about? Blocking traffic lanes? Vehicle burning? Use whatever means available
to call for assistance. Car ran out of gas because you thought that E means
enough? Car won't start in the parking lot because you left all the radios
turned on while shopping? You are getting hungry and a pizza would really
hit the spot? Sorry, that's not imminent loss of life time. Get on the radio,
tell you friends or call your wife and tell her you'll be a bit late.

xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080
From: pjml@swmis.nerc-swindon.ac.UK (Pete Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Reciprocal licenses in the UK
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:26:22 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu


IMHO what the FCC and ARRL should do is instead of trying to map the
US license structure into the license structure of each European country,
they should simply map it into the CEPT license structure.
The majority of European countries are signatories of the CEPT agreement
which essentially defines two ham license classes (30MHz-and-up nocode
and HF-bands with code) and also gives reciprocal privileges in most cases.
Makes life a lot easier, specially when you travel through six different
countries in a 24 hour journey.
 
With the emergence of post-communist governments in much of eastern Europe,
chances are, before long a CEPT-type license will be valid as far east as
the Urals..
 
      ---G6WBJ---    Pete Lucas   PJML@UK.AC.NSW.SWMIS  (JANET)
                                  PJML%SWMIS.NSW.AC.UK@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
        (Full Internet connectivity coming to the UK real soon!!)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: [ANS] Reciprocal Licences in the U.K
From: julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey)
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:49:24 GMT
Reply-To: julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey)
Organization: The Hole in the Wall  Hollywood California U.S.A.

In article <9207240106.AA21112@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil> jdelancy@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil writes:
>>In other words UK class B > US technician hence no reciprocity. 
>>
>Not so sure that's correct.  Talk to N3KIP (aka G8VUK) in Waldorf
>Maryland.  He came over with the British verison of a no-code
>and had recip previliges BEFORE the FCC came out with the no-code
>ticket.

	Yes, you can check with G8LUK (Who Dat?) too. He also came to
the U.S. with an evil no-code licence and recieved a Technician
reciprocal in the days of "Everybody gotta have Morris". There is "no
reciprocity". The U.K. "Technicians" get to play radio in the U.S. and
the U.S. amateurs are not allowed to play radio in the U.K. It has
always been this way. I am trying to change it. Every time I write
about it, someone challenges my understanding of the subject. Then as
above, it is pointed out that they are a tad off.

	Is this a tricky concept to grasp? Trying to keep it simple.
The U.S<>U.K. agreement is old and creaky. It needs updating to reflect
the current state of licensing in both countries. I spoke to the U.K.
Radiocommunications Agency. They told me they are looking into it in
"Minute detail". They said they should have a decision in six months. I
assume the FCC are in the loop here somewhere. I have not contacted
them yet. I am trying to find out who in Washington to talk to.

	In my persuit of this problem over the years, the ARRL has been
not very helpful. 



-- 
Julian Macassey, julian@bongo.info.com  N6ARE@K6VE.#SOCAL.CA.USA.NA
742 1/2 North Hayworth Avenue Hollywood CA 90046-7142 voice (213) 653-4495
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:13001 sci.electronics:13662
From: dnewkirk@arrl.org (Dave Newkirk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Whats a LEAD-CALCIUM battery?
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:11:04 est
Organization: American Radio Relay League

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier) writes:

[deletions]

>I don't want to be TOO picky but since when is calcium a metal?  Gel

[deletions]

Is an alkalai earth group metal, like sodium and cesium. Years 
ago, while still in high school, I developed a fascination with 
that group and my chem teacher gave me some pieces to play with. 
Brittle stuff that develops a crust in air. Didn't react with 
water as much as sodium -- hah -- so I tried vinegar. That got me
a bit scared since, as I recall, the reaction was strong enough to
boil the solution. And right then I realized that the sodium- 
skittering-around-on-the-water trick was a lot more fun for 
*someone else* to do -- somewhere across the room.




David Newkirk, WJ1Z                     |  voice: 203-666-1541 X280
Senior Assistant Technical Editor, ARRL |  fax: 203-665-7531
225 Main St, Newington CT 06111 USA     |  net: dnewkirk@arrl.org
From: zielke@FOZZIE.NRL.NAVY.MIL (David Zielke)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: GPS Systems
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:09:33 GMT

>> Most will interface with other equipment using NMEA 0183 (I think that's the
>> right number; the info is at home and I'm at work!)
>>
>Does anyone have any idea what this is?  I assume that it is serial, since it
>comes out 1 wire, but what baud rate, etc, etc.

If I remember correctly it is 4800 baud, one stop bit, but with a five volt
offset.  Some PC serial ports can read it others require a couple of 
batteries to move the signal.

>   Another thing that's interesting is that if I walk reasonably fast around
> my yard carrying the GPS 50, it will tell me what direction I am walking
> and how fast, with updates about once per second, and yet I obviously
> haven't moved 50 feet in that second, so it must have a relative precision
> that is better than the 50-100 foot accuracy.  

The 'relative accuracy' is about 10 feet.  The Coast Guard is talking about
installing transmitters at fixed locations which broadcast a 'correction
signal' by comparing its known position and the position reported by gps.
Mostly this is to deal with the 'selective availability' which the military
has imposed.  The reason for this is the claim that an enemy would use the
gps system for targeting american sites.  Thus they take the signal which
can do some 20 or so feet (not sure of the accuracy might be 100 or
something) and degrade it to 300 meters.  

>The only negative is that if there are a lot of power lines, the thing tends
>to loose contact with the sats, but then I usually have the antenna inside the
>unit inside the car on the dashboard.  I'm amazed it can pick up anything
>from inside the car.

Actually, the signal is very sensitive to things being in the way.  For
boats they don't recommend putting the antenna where the sails could get in
the way of the line of sight from the antenna to orbit.

David Zielke
KA4SLI
From: jkasser@gsfcmail.nasa.GOV (Joe Kasser)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ELMER100.ZIP - ELMER, the ham's Expert System or smart server
Date: 22 Jul 1992 03:13:04 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen

I have uploaded to WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil:

pd1:<msdos.hamradio>
ELMER100.ZIP    ELMER, the ham's Expert System or smart server

ELMER is a tool for demonstrating expert system techniques, or building
any interactive knowledgebase. It is ideal for use in amateur radio, or
as a knowledgebase in a software (or any other product) support
facility.

ELMER is an expert system based on a finite state machine using table
driven software. The declarative knowledge is stored in the form of
separate ASCII text and command files. The procedural knowledge is
stored in the state table. The Data files in ELMER correspond to the
Knowledge Engine (and the Inference Engine), the State Tables correspond
to the Inference Engine. ELMER also contains an ASCII editor for text
files, and a tool to view the state table. These tools allow the user to
"teach" ELMER new knowledge.

Programming ELMER is simple. The knowledge base is broken out in terms
of states and transitions. States can be passive or active. A passive
state is one in which ELMER does nothing other than accept/parse further
input. An active state is one in which ELMER loads and displays a text
file containing information or shells to DOS and runs an external
program. ELMER contains a set of tools for programming and debugging
purposes. A state table for the procedural knowledge is drawn up using
pencil and paper and a large sheet of graph paper. The built in text
editor is then used to enter information into the table. The individual
text files containing the knowledge are also created using the editor.
The state table viewing tool is used to check the entries. The state
table loading capability is used to exercise ELMER and verify the logic.
Because the procedural knowledge is contained in the state table, all
sorts of rules and linkages may be used.

73 Joe.
- -
Joe Kasser
jkasser@gsfcmail.nasa.gov
From: pjml@swmis.nerc-swindon.ac.UK (Pete Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARRL Bulletin 68 ARLB068
Date: 21 Jul 1992 03:35:11 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

>
>In article <lzcm!ph.stevew@netcom.com>,
>stevew@netcom.com (Steven Wilson) writes:
>
>> ... [ARRL is] considering changing the name to something like
>> "American Amateur Radio League" or AARL.  So What da ya all think?
>

Is the ARRL purely an *amateur* radio organisation?  Is there anything
in its constitution to suggest this?

I have been trying to get the RSGB to adopt a broader approach, and encourage
non-ham radio-users (the professional broadcasters, business-radio service
providers etc) to become RSGB members and to change the style of operation
by the RSGB in general.
My reasoning?

(a) by getting the 'professional' users to join, they may see ham radio in
    a more positive way, rather than just a bunch of jerks who clutter up
    saleable parts of the spectrum.

(b) theres nothing in the RSGB articles of association to say
    it is only open to hams.

The ARRL and the RSGB should move towards fulfilling, in a radio context,
the role currently filled by IEEE in the world of electronics. How about
ARRL/RSGB actually *proposing* International standards for consumer
electronic equipment RFI/EMI standards? Could save a lot of arguments!
____________________________________________________________________________
    Code? Certainly!  Take your pick from ASCII, EBCDIC, Octal or HEX.
    Peter J.M. Lucas  --- G6WBJ ---  PJML@SWMIS.NSW.AC.UK@NSFNET-RELAY
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bill@uofs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is it "business" if I use and autopatch to...
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:19:56 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton, Scranton, PA

In article <1992Jul24.022151.3937@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
> 
> it isn't an emergency. Frankly, cell phones are cheaper than ham rigs
> and are ideal for this kind of roadside repair business.
> 

Yeah, remember, the next time you want to fight a state law
banning ham raduios in cars, cell phones are cheaper.  And
any way, nothing short of a natural disaster warrants using
your 2 meter rig for anything other than discussing your gall 
bladder.

The demise of amateur radio has oft been predicted,
if it comes, it will be driven from within.

bill   KB3YV

-- 
     Bill Gunshannon          |        If this statement wasn't here,
     bill@platypus.uofs.edu   |  This space would be left intentionally blank
     bill@tuatara.uofs.edu    |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>
From: lee@pranny.UUCP (Lee Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: amateurs in history
Keywords: but yes
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:41:17 GMT
Organization: Pranny International, Inc.

tonyp@cnvxla.COM, , Conan - good!) writes:

>  In article <1992Jul20.132740.0105090@locus.com> marcoh@lear.bos.locus.com (Ma
>  }In article <76203@ut-emx.uucp> oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:
>  }>
>  }>Isn't there some guy in the Bible called Ham?
>  }>
>  }Ham was the son of NOAA.  NOAA is best remembered for his work
>  }in connection with meteorology.
>  }
>  Meteorology? I thought he pioneered digital handshake-communications.
>  Everyone's heard of NOAA's ARQ...
>  
>  --
>  Tony J. Podrasky |  What's this thing?
>   San Diego , Ca   |  It's called a MODEM.
>  tonyp@convex.com |  And what's this button for? 
>   NNNN NNNN ZCZC   |  Whatever you do, don't touc{{{7bh6xx!{@%%hxbd&$#)$% NO C


Hang on a minute - didn't that thing use Japhets?????


                                         Lee
From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is it "business" if I use and autopatch to...
Date: 25 Jul 92 14:39:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

(The > > remarks were from my original posting)

>  > > If it means you have to walk 50 feet to a call box and wait an hour
>  > > like the rest of humanity, THAT is merely an inconvience and doesn't
>  > > justify using the auto patch. 
>  > 
>  > Bullshit.
>
>        I love it. When you can't offer a rational rebuttal use profanity.

I love it, when someone gives you a rational rebuttal, delete all but
the first word of his response.  The remainder of the post pointed out
that being parked on the side of the highway is indeed an imminent
loss of property or life situation.   If you don't believe me (and I
pointed out that I have experience with this) ask your local police
department or the ARRL.

> Now back to the ORIGINAL POINT of this. The key phrase is imminent
> danger of loss of life (or property). 

> Car ran out of gas because you thought that E means
> enough? Car won't start in the parking lot because you left all the radios
> turned on while shopping?

Parking lots, no.  On the side of the highway, a stopped car for what
ever reason (accident, break down, driver stupidity (forgot to get
gas)), IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION for both the stranded driver and for
other users of the road.