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From: cbuteau@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Christopher W Buteau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: M'arccenttin' Ploi {the DEMON that created D**MSDAY!!}
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:26:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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 ORIGIN OF DOOMSDAY ALMOST AS EXCITING AS HIS SHORT CAREER

	The creation of Doomsday is attributed to the demi god...
M'arrcettin Ploi which exists not only in the Marvel Universe but also 
the DC Universe as well.  M'arrcettin Ploi (let's call it MP for short)
has no significant origin but can be traced back at being responsible for
many a comicdom catastrophe.  MP is sexless and faceless as all heroes have
never seen or heard of it.  MP is a sexless yet brutally passionate in its
feed for greed.  The possibilities of the MP are endless but certain formats
tend to lend to the demonic nature of the MP.

[1] crossovers
[2] death of a major character
[3] guest stars

These are the three major formats although MP will appear almost anywhere.
The reason for the longwinded explanation of the 'hidden' god 
M'arcettin Ploi is that it is solely responsible for the creation of Doomsday.
	MP has an inherrant trickery for coming up with schemes that will
boost sales to satisfy the greed burning inside.  Doomsday was a simple 
creation for a simple purpose.  The purpose was to kill superman.  But MP knew 
he had to meet certain specifics to accomplish this.
(1) Superman could not die in a losing fight. {he had to kill his opponent}
(2) The opponent could not be an 'older' villain.
    {the comic buyers would think "why didn't that happen before"}
    {also favorite villains could be used in other books and a   }
    {cheesy villain could never make it believable               }
(3) The opponent could not have one ounce of goodness in him
    {Superman would forgive him if he did                        }
(4) The opponent had to be Superman's equal in strength.
So in a mountainside outside of Metropolis behind steel doors 
Doomsday was born.


Any comments?????
Any sightings????(of M'arccettin' Ploi)
Anything?????????
cbuteau@wpi.wpi.edu

Hope you enjoyed it.  I certainly got a kick out of writing it.
If you didn't well then F**K YA.
-Later





-- 
"Women can't live with them... pass the beer nuts" -Norm (Cheers)
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From: ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega)
Subject: Price gouging - Not just Supes #75 
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:38:52 GMT

In article <By1n17.4sM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn ) writes:
>I was at Fantasy Realm this morning, and I heard the manager telling
>how ridiculous it was that people were fighting over the Supes comic
>when he first opened up. He agreed it was insane, and then mentioned
>that Comics Cavalcade had a guy there on Thursday who had been trying to 
>buy Supes issues from people who subbed and gotten them from FR. 
>Then they would 
>turn around and sell them at CC at a price that increased every hour
>(or something ridiculous like that). I find it hard to believe that
>vendors are allowed to sell comics at market value _the day_ they get
>them. What the hell is the point of a cover price? I'v seen Lobo
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It's simple.  Some vendors are saying, "Why settle for the 50%
profit margin on most of the stock with a few leftover to be
bagged and marked up when I can just mark up ALL of the stock
to collector's prices immediately?"

In other words, why sell $200 worth (wholesale) of Superman #75
for $200 gross profit when you can sell it for ten times that
amount.

I've seen Ben Dunn pull this with a reprint edition of Not Ninja
High School.

He marked them up to a multiple of the cover price before
placing them on sale.

>issues at CC selling for $5 the day they come in! However, for those
>who simply want to read the story (yeah I know they say it was lame,
>but I think a copy of the story would still be interesting), next week
>DC will be releasing a 2nd printing for $1. Also, in 3 weeks a TPB of
>all the Doomsday issues will be sold for pretty cheap ($5 I think). 
>BTW, won't Supes Death hit the grocery stores in about a month? Or did
>DC release their version early to coincide with when the comic shops
>get their issues? 

-- 
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From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Guy Gardner #3
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:21:08 GMT

In article <By0rxI.7vF@apollo.hp.com> jlevine@apollo.hp.com (Jennifer E. Levine) writes:
>I am not usually into fights without plots and characterization.
>
>But the last page made it worth buying...
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
>In space no one can hear you fight...

	No, I just don't buy this argument.  In the DC universe, conversation
has always taken place in space--  in spite of the physical impossibility of
it.  Besides, GG's ring should be able to create some sort of medium through
which sound could propogate.  (Additionally, there's always the possibility
of simply having "thought balloons" or narrator's comment's in the margins.)
	I really think that this was just a case of the writers being lazy
and finding an excuse to justify it.  Yes, I believe that it is possible to
tell a story without using words, but there was no real story here--  only an 
extended fight scene.

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: josh_f@lsa.lan.mcgill.ca (JOSH FIREMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Sales are NOT What They Seem (was Re: He's Dead...Wrapped In Plastic)
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:11:59 GMT
Organization: Law Student's Association, Mcgill University

In article <1992Nov19.233003.20188@netcom.com> byron@netcom.com (Byron C. Go) writes:

>In article <1ee01gINN5th@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:

>>Anyway...  The story I bought it at had sold over 200 issues in an hour,
>>even with limited numbers allowed per person...

>I went to three stores today.  None of them received more than thirty copies
>(or so they claim) and all of them were sold out of what they had received.
>Kind of makes you wonder if they're telling the truth, and if so, what the
>distributors are trying to pull.

My store ordered and received 4 boxes full (I don't know how many comics are 
in a box).  They could have ordered more if they had wanted to.  Also, 
I am aware of at least one store here in Montreal that received 14 boxes!  
This is a great sign, as far as I'm concerned, since it means that the 
speculative vultures snatching up this issue are going to be screwed royally.

FIREMAN
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From: johnfa@i88.isc.com (John Fanelli)
Subject:  Re: '93 is a'comin'.....
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:47:26 GMT

Hey all,
	I was out of town last week due to an illness in my 
family.  I missed the post "'93 is a'comin'", could whomever
posted it please mail it to me at johnfa@i88.isc.com.

				thanks, 
					john fanelli


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From: kens@css.itd.umich.edu (Ken Small)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Mixed Bag Trivia
Date: 16 Nov 1992 20:08:42 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
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I'm waiting for the IBM tech to fix our server, so in the meantime I've
thrown together the following trivia quiz to entertain myself.  The
questions range from fairly easy to fairly hard; send me your answers
and I'llpost the results and the answers later this week.

1) What mysterious chemical gave Jay Garrick super speed?

2) Who lived in Green Lantern Hal Jordan's ring for years?

3) In the Thomas/Drake revival miniseries "Shazam, A New Beginning,"
where does Sivanna find Mr. Mind?

4) What is Lloyd Llewellyn's brother's secret identity?

5) What "fringe benefit" does Buddy Bradley's job have?

6) Where did Maggie meet Danita?

7) What are Ignatz Mouse's sons names?

8) How did Reed Richards summon the Fantastic Four to their first
adventure?

9) What fictional television show character warns: "Don't try this at
home-- I'm a hologram, but you guys bleed!"

10) What does Elrod sketch at Petuniacon?

11) In Kirby's "4th World" series, how was "The Pact" enforced?

12) According to an early Spider-Man story, what is the *true* reason,
hyped on the cover, that J. Jonah Jameson hates Spider-Man?

13) What comics magazine published early work by Phil Elliot, Eddie
Campbell, Peter Bagge, Alan Moore, Chester Brown, Marc Hempel, and Dan
Clowes; and featured intervies with Don Martin, David Boswell and Bill
Griffith?

14) What magazine replaced it?

15) And where did the name of that magazine come from?

16) Who did Bill Seinkiewicz imitate before he developed his more
unusual style? (Hope I spelled that right...)

17) What philosophy does Steve Ditko subscribe to?

18) Who (at least co-)created Wolverine and Swamp Thing?

19) Whose adventures does Matt Feazell chronicle?

20) What is Salvo's battle creed?
-- 
Ken Small
kens@umich.edu
Consulting and Support Services, University of Michigan
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From: mgq@inel.gov (Michael G McKellar)
Subject: Re: How to Screen _The Tempest_
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.032735.10210@vax.oxford.ac.uk> cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>
> sherman@wilshire.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:
>
>_The Tempest_:
>
>> Hmm... somebody must have seen "Prospero's Books" recently.  
>
>Yep. Though it's best seen as a trilogy:
>
>1) _Forbidden Planet_
>2) _The Tempest_ (hopefully, a middling-to-good production)
>3) _Prospero's Books_
>
>Tanaqui

Last Sunday on our local PBS station I watched the show 'Behind the
Scenes".  It is hosted by Penn and Teller.  This last episode was 
about stage productions.  The example they used was the Tempest.  
The director used some very interesting effects for the story.  For
example Caliban's head was encased in stone and Ariel was a woman
completly dressed in black except for a white mask in one hand and
a white glove on the other.  The actress's head was covered in black
as well.  When Prospero releases Ariel at the end of the play, the
actress laid down the mask and Propero removed the black head 
covering from the actress's head.  It was really a very effective
scene.

Mike McKellar

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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Get rid of the Legion of Net Heroes.
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 18:10:56 GMT

>
> > > Straw poll, please.  Who would prefer the LNH posts to be removed f
> > > misc as off-topic? 
> > > E-mail me with opinions, and I'll summarize.
> >         
> > That's an awfully convenient way to handle things.  And must be
> > incredibly easy to falsify.  

I will not swear and curse.

Falsify?  Fine, then.  I will summarrize this Thursday, including the mail
addresses of each voter, so you can check them at your leisure.

The current vote is 30 - 4 in favour of calling LNH off-topic, by the way.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
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From: jlevine@apollo.hp.com (Jennifer E. Levine)
Subject: Guy Gardner #3
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:35:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

What did people think of this issue?

I found it amusing...

--Jennifer 
jlevine@apollo.hp.com
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Million Year Picnic in Boston - Fire
Keywords: Fire
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:09:38 GMT

In <1992Nov22.052125.17549@news.columbia.edu> ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz) writes:
>I realize that many people on the net want information about various comic
>stores, but this info has absolutely no relevance to people who don't
>live in the area. I'm sure that people in other parts of the world couldn't
>care less about a store in Boston burning down.

Excuse me, but *I* don't live in Boston and *I* care.  So much for your
"surety".

>						  While this info does have
>some relevance to the comic world, people who don't live near the store in
>question shouldn't have to read about it. Please mark all future articles
>about stores with a distribution specific to the area which the store serves.

I would advise against doing this, since, for instance in this particular
case, there are former patrons of the store in question who DON'T live in
Boston, and COULDN'T see an article with Boston-only distribution, but who
ARE interested in seeing the article.

>For example, if you want to talk about Atomic Comics in Providence, RI, keep
>your distribution to RI. This way, people in California won't have to read
>it.  Thanks

I recommend that you invest in a more sophisticated newsreader which will
allow you to filter out articles with subjects lines which make no sense to
you, or which, as with this one, are clearly marked with "Boston" in the
subject line.  That way you would never have to see them (except for the
subject line, but even at 2400 baud this is no big deal; I know because that's
how I'm reading news at this very instant).

The one I use is nn, which (last I checked) was source code ftp-able from
UUNET.UU.NET  There is a newsgroup for it, too:  news.software.nn

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"I am left in the night, trembling with fear.
 I have seen the future, and the future is here.
 Our leader will bring victory, but our land is in flames,
 And as the final sounds of battle disappear, I had to say,
 What about me, and you, and the ones that we love?"
					- Chris De Burgh, "What About Me?"
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From: REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Subject: Re: For those that are sick of the Legion of net.heroes
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 02:02:10 EST

In article <1992Nov17.060528.18638@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
ter5424@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (T-Dub - SGP '92) writes:
 
>>In any case, as the numbers pile up it looks like a better and better idea all
>>the time.  The vote is 40-12.
>>
>
>Count another vote for LNH.  That's 40-13 now?
>
And another vote for LNH.  40-14 and growing.   :-)
 
                                                  -Rebecca (Organic Lass)
From: steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Superman should STILL die!!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:35:19 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

     I realize that mostly the closed minded people are the ones who reply but
most of the people bought more than one copy out of curiosity.  There was also
the newsstand edition. I read and very much enjoy Sandman and other such titles
but the Superman title does not have to compete with them.  It has to be better
than the issues from 1960's and beyond.  These are the titles that they
remember.
     I don't know if any of you remember the quality of the stories and art     
back then but I must think that a poor artist today is more appealing to the    
general public than the things drawn back then.
     We also had people pick up some of the independent Tarzan titles as well
as others.  Many people will come back weekly for the Funeral For A Friend story
line, and we cannot sell them the good stuff unless they come into the store
in the first place.
     
Jason

P.S.

How many of you really checked out the poster of the heroes carrying the
casket?  Robin is glaring at Batman, probably because he got stuck at the end. 
Why is Lobo and Sandman in the back ground? Who thinks Lobo really cares.  He
just peeved he did not kill him himself.  He also doesn't have an arm band on. 
Go figure.  Phantom stranger could probably visit Superman if he wanted to. 
Anyone else have any more observation about the poster?

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From: yngvar@imr.no (Yngvar Foelling)
Subject: Re: Tintin Cronology
Organization: Institute of Marine Research, Bergen, Norway.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:11:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.232144.15862@sco.com>, jasona@sco.COM ( Successfully putting my elbow in my ear ) writes:
|> 
|> Oh my God, like yngvar@imr.no (Yngvar Foelling) totally lost it:
|> *- BTW, what is its name in different languages? The Norwegian translators
|> *- have been a bit confused, calling it either Moulinsart (probably the
|> *- original), and "Mllenborg" (Lacking ISO 8859-1: Mollenborg with a slash
|> *- across the first "o"), which means something like "The Mill Castle."
|> 
|> Actually, I've found it funny how the sound effects are different all around
|> the world. The most notable are guns, dogs, cats and cows:
|> 
|> [Samples deleted]
|> 
|> i,jasona

Huh?

Clearly, _somebody_ is misunderstanding someone here, but I'm not sure if I'm
misunderstanding jasona, if jasona's misunderstanding me, or (most likely) both.

I wasn't talking about onomatopoeia there.  By deleting the first sentence you
may have missed what "it" referred to.  I was talking about the mansion/castle/
big house that was first seen in "The Secret of the Unicorn", and that Captain
Haddock bought with Calculus' help at the end of "Red Rackham's Treasure".

I haven't got the English albums, and can't remember its English name.  I also
don't know one French word, so puns in that language are automatically lost on
me.

Anyway, this thread started out with Curtis Wahlgren listing the English and
German names of the most major characters, and wanted to know the names in other
languages.  I provided the Norwegian names, and added the name of the house.  If
your point is that the names contain embedded sound effects, I wouldn't know
that.

Of course I have noted that the name of the main character -- Tintin -- is not a
real name at all.  It's merely one syllable repeated twice, with no indication
of whether it is a first or last name.  Is that what you were talking about?
-- 
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From: sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG)
Subject: Re: penciller for darkstar ads
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 22 Nov 1992 21:13 EST  

In article <By42xK.KuB@matilda.vut.edu.au>, jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes...
>jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE) writes:
> 
>>In article <BxLGG6.Azz@matilda.vut.edu.au> jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
>>>Who is pencilling the nice Darkstars advertisments. It is
>>>not Mignola. 
> 

The Darkstar ads and all the covers were done by Travis Charest, a 
promising newcomer.  Travis will be doing the interior art of Darkstars 
starting with issue number 4.  I saw a B&W preview of the book and it looks 
really good.  The interior art for issues #1-3 were done by Larry Stroman.  
Larry actually drew these pages a couple of years ago before he went over 
to Marvel to do X-Factor.  A bit of Liefeld influence is evident in some of 
Travis Charest's earlier work, but he has since developed and refined his 
work into a style all his own.  I'm looking forward to future issues of 
Darkstars.

 - Wayne.
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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman's death synopsis
Date: 19 Nov 1992 22:30:32 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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In article <BxzH2F.n42@acsu.buffalo.edu> hanneman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Albert Hanneman) writes:
>They asked one women why she was buying it.  Her
>response was something like, "This comic is going to send my little girl
>to college, and the issue where he comes back to life is going to send
>her to medical school..." 


 BWAH-HAH-HAH!!!!!!

 *ROFL!

 *ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 *HEHEHAHHAHAHEHHEHROOEH OHAH OAODFOAWHORFGHRAHHHSAHHAHEHHEHEHEHHEHEHEHEHHE!

 *gasp*

 *wheeze*

 *Hehe. Hehehe. HehehehehhehehheHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA!!!

 *wheeze.

 Thud.

 	A-hem.  <wipes tears of laughter from eyes>  

	....college?

  Snicker.

	Oh, thanks for that one.  I needed a laugh.
-- 
Rick Jones				Systems Support Center
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Voice: 713-798-7352			standard disclaimers apply
Superman's not just dead, he's wrapped in plastic.-Houston Chronicle (11/19/92)
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From: wesselak@sunb0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak)
Subject: Re: Big Numbers - Does it still exist?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:03:04 GMT

ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz) writes:


>A looooooong time ago (at least two years) a book called Big Numbers 
>appeared with art by Bill Sinkiewicz and a story by Alan Moore (I think).
>I bought the first two issues, but I could never find any issues after 
>that. Does anyone know what happenned to this title?

As far as we've been told by people-in-the-know on this net, issue #3 is coming
out with a new artist.  Alan Moore does the writing, but Bill S. won't be
doing the art anymore...his background artist will.  I heard that it should be
out this fall (time's running out...).

Erik
-- 
"'Yup' was a word that that skirted confusion and bared its      __| /  |__
friendly soul without the slightest hint of foul play.  'You     __|<  /|__
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