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From: plemmons@mth.msu.edu (Steve Plemmons)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: What do you do when one of your own
Keywords: makes Metallica look good?
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:42:54 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, Dept. of Mathematics


>>Anybody know any real good songs about legalism?
>


Legalistic Tendancies by AVB.

Mr. Christensen,

The one question that you have so conveniently preached your way around every
time it was asked here is what type of music do you listen to?  Maybe we should
nickname you Bill Clinton, the perfect politician :-)

Inquiring minds want to know!

See Ya,

Steve

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From: n3x092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Geoff Lloyd Burian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Who's touring with MWS?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 08:29:11 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Anyone know who's going to be opening for Michael W. Smith on his next
tour?  I've heard some rumors but I'd like to confirm them.

Geoff B.

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From: c60b-1hy@web-2b.berkeley.edu (Albert Wu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Trace Balin
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:26:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-2b.berkeley.edu


Does anyone know if Trace Balin will ever come out to the west coast to put
on a concert?  I like her music and she is one that I would like to see in
concert.  You would think that after putting out 3 albums, she would tour
and visit the west coast.  Does she even do concerts anywhere else?

Albert Wu
UC Berkeley
c60b-1hy@web.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: rdesjard@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu
Subject: Re: Michael W. Smith
Summary: Tour Schedule
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:20:30 GMT



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	I would appreciate any information on whether or not Michael will be    coming to southern Ontario in the near future, say within 1993.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.
				
	
Richard Desjardine
rdesjard@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu


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From: martinez@megatest.UUCP (John Martinez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Other Christian newsgroups
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:22:21 GMT
Organization: Megatest Corporation, San Jose, Ca

Are there any other Christian newsgroups out there? I haven't seen
another one as of yet.



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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: I Still Believe (Russ Taff's version)
From: bproden@ualr.edu
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:32:39 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <1992Nov16.132042.28@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
> kwolters@fred.wellesley.edu (Keith Wolters) writes:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am a big fan of The Call and when I heard that Russ Taff had done 
>> a cover of their song "I Still Believe" I was interested in hearing 
>> it. I have not yet heard it although I recently purchased another 
>> of Russ Taff's CDs and really enjoy it.  Is there anyone who has 
>> heard both versions of "I Still Believe" (and the version from the 
>> soundtrack of "The Lost Boys" movie for that matter) and can 
>> comment on which they like best?
> 
> i've heard both, and Russ Taff's is the better of the two. it seems
> to be more rich & soulful. get the album (Russ Taff), it's a good
> one all around, and still one of my favorites.
> 
> the Lost Boys soundtrack has a bunch of good songs, but they're
> not the best versions by a long shot. the theme song, in particular,
> was done on another album (and now i can't remember who did it either),
> and it was -much- better than the one on the Lost Boys CD.
> 
I haven't heard The Call's version, but I must agree that Russ' take is
excellent.  Especially in concert.  After the song ends, James Hollihan
plays a blues guitar solo, after which Russ starts back in slowly and 
plaintively with "I'll march this road."  It's very moving.

Brian P. Roden
Leisure Arts, Inc.
Little Rock, AR
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: bparrish@rose.hp.com (Bill Parrish)
Subject: Re: CCM Urban Legend?  "A mighty Fortress" evolved a from drinking song
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:20:17 GMT
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Don't know about "A mighty Fortress"... but I found this one interesting...

"Onward Christian Soldiers" was written by Sir Arthur Sullivan...
of Gilbert and Sullivan.  Apparently he wrote a very LARGE number
of hymns.  If you play it just right, it sounds sort of like
the Pirates of Penzance...   :-)

Bill Parrish
From: cs922015@ariel.yorku.ca (PAUL C BARDEN)
Subject: Re: Becker
Originator: cs922015@t10.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:20:28 GMT


Personally, I think Margeret Beckers great! She does mostly fairly accoustic based music, somewhat along the lines of Steve Curtis Chapman. She has the
following releases that I know of

      Never for Nothing
      The Reckoning
      Immigrants Daughter
      Simple House
      Steps of Faith     - a compilation album.

I think those are correct, but I wouldn't put money on it! The best two in my
opinion are Immigrants Daughter and Steps of Faith.


          Paul Barden

          (cs922015@ariel.yorku.ca)
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 17:43:09 PST
From: <JYK@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Kerry Livgren & Kansas (was Re: Rachel,Rachel)
Distribution: usa
 <rhalse20.721697816@ursa> <BxpzGx.FCJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
 <1992Nov17.200157.13065@news.eng.convex.com>

I picked up the new Kansas album "Live at the Whiskey," and it's all right,
though Livgren's presence as a guest musician on the recording is basically
transparent. The performance is good and the sound quality is great, but
the album is just a collection of greatest hits played by a series of
"oldies" players celebrating their past and in need of making some money.

So buying this may be redundant for those who have "Two for the Show," the
arena-sized version of "Whiskey" recorded some 14 years earlier, but there
is the pleasant bonus of "Lonely Street" recorded live at a club in '75.

So if you can dig up a copy at a used CD store, I'd say the purchase
might be worth it; otherwise you won't be missing too much. I'm glad I
bought the disc myself, but to give the band credit, I'm wishing they
would put out another albuum of original and creative stuff like they did
with "In the Spirit of Things." They aren't too washed up for doing some-
thing like that.

Jai Young Kim

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: mooras@crockett1b.its.rpi.edu (Steve 'War Axe' Mooradian)
Subject: Re: TANGENT Re: "We Will Stand" stolen by Clinton
Reply-To: mooras@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:18:03 GMT

> than themselves.  What a novel concept.  You know what?  It's not
> going to work because Christians are going to be bitching and moaning
> for the next four years about the godless administration.  We all know

  First off let me say that your words are a window into your heart. The particular wording used in the above comment are a sad example of Christians who adopt the worldliness of today.
  Next off I will say that you have shown no reverance of God's Word. You can define satire (heck, you can post all of Webster) but you sorta killed yourself when you did. Do you think it is appropriate to use alter the Word of God just to make political wisecracks?
  Which brings me to my last point, I am sick (VERY SICK) of reading political debates on this sub. If you have aomething musically inclined to say, say it. If you don't, then don't post anything! Got it?

<<<STEVE>>>
MORNING STAR - lead guitarist
Revelations 22:16
  
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From: mdw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (mark.d.wuest)
Subject: Re: TANGENT: "We Will Stand" stolen by Clinton
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:16:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.021301.50@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
>mooras@crockett1b.its.rpi.edu (Steve 'War Axe' Mooradian) writes:
>>     I think Andy and those like him need to either find peace with 
>>     themselves and with their fellow brothers in Christ, or find 
>>     another net sub to post on, because I for one am sick of 
>>     hearing their hypocrosy.

>here's one dissenting vote.

Here's another one.  I am sure their/our hypocrisy is no more sickening
than the next guy's.

Mark
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From: 00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: looking for a band called Bei Domini?
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:32:03 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <19203@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, cs40f003@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.054907.25855@samba.oit.unc.edu> Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:
>>>
>>>I've got a friend who told me about a band called "Bei Domini" (or something
>>>like that) which I am still unable to find.  Does anyone know about these
>>>guys?  It's thrash in the vein of Seventh Angel and Detritus.
>>>
>>
>>I don't know of that particular band but I do know of a band called Anno
>>Domine ... sorry VENI DOMINE on R.E.X. Records...
>>
>>Phil
> 
> Yep, the band is Veni Domine, not Bei Domini.  Although it is possible that
> your friend is talking about another group.  I have Veni Domine's Cd
> (_Fall Babylon Fall_), and it's not what I'd consider thrash.  The way
> I define metal, they would be in the progressive metal categrory.  I like
> their Cd even though they don't do the style of metal I normally listen to
> which is speed/thrash.  The things I like about their Cd is that it is
> very artistic and technical, and they do a lot of time and tempo changes.
> All the songs are over five minutes long - the cd only has seven songs on
> it, but the whole cd is ~67 minutes long!!! - and for me that is a big 
> plus.  Also, I normally hate, hate, HATE it when a  metal band uses key-
> bords, but they use keyboards in such a way that the music is enhanced,
> not dominated by the boards.  Anyway, they're a good band with a funny
> name. (Can anybody out there translate it. I know Domine = Lord. Maybe
> the name means 'Our Lord'?)
> 
> Later,
> Randy

Veni Domine would (roughly) translate to "Come quickly Lord" or something like
it...I'm not terribly familiar with Latin, tho.

My friend is hearing impaired, so he often mishears things-it is indeed Veni
Domine that I am looking for...

My thanks for any/all help that has been given.  This band definitely sounds
like a must-have...8^)

Bruce

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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: conditt@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Paul Conditt)
Subject: TANGENT:  Am I saved?
Organization: Applied Research Laboratories, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:25:07 GMT


I need some help.  I voted for Ross Perot and am now very concerned
about my salvation.  I go to church every Sunday, but not always on
Wednesdays.  Do I need to start going every Wed. to make up for not
voting for George Bush?  Or are we *all* going to Hell since Bill
Clinton is, for all practical purposes, the anti-Christ?  Should I 
move to Rome and into the Vatican so I can be assured that the gov't
has a direct line to God?  I am *soooooooooooo* confused!!!!


Obligatory Christian music content:  Yesterday at my church, a group
from the San Fransisco Bay Area called Joyful Noize performed.  They
were really good.  Go see them if you get the chance.

Paul (if the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, does that mean that they
are God's team again?)  Conditt

email conditt@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: What do you do when your child thinks Metallica is cool?
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:50:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Someday I'll leave well enough alone ...
   ... but not today.  8-)

In article <nauman.722277112@hq> nauman@Pt.hq.af.mil (Stratton D Nauman) writes:

[first two music categories, Christian and Amoral, deleted]

>3.  Secular Music.  Music, which has lyrics that are *not* written
>to the glory of God.  Or, even worse, are absolutely written against
>God.  Have a hard time giving examples, since Im not sure who all the
>groups are out there (having completely cut this catagory out of my
>life years ago).  Madonna comes to mind.  Even *I* know who *she* is!

>Ok. I realize that I generalized a whole bunch, but had to due to
>space and time limitations.  Please, there are some grey areas in
>between each catagory.. not many, but Im sure someone could find 
>*something* :)

OK, let's!  

>That said, I absolutely prohibit catagory 3 music from being listened
>to in my house.  Notice, Lauren... Most of Mozart, and Lawrence Welk
>band music would fit into catagory 2. No problem :)

What about Lawrence Welk's _vocal_ music?  I can't remember the woman's
name, the one with the blond bee-hive do ("such-a da bee-yoo-tee-ful
gurr-rel"), but she and her "dashing" partner would sing many a duet
together on the show.  Those songs had words, Bing Crosby-style words. 
Words like "...that stardust melody, the memory of love's refrain."  
Words to play canasta and slowly fall asleep by.  

Would you forbid your children the pleasures of the elderly?



 

  

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From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: TANGENT: Re: "We Will Stand" stolen by Clinton
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:50:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.123951.25470@csus.edu> swansond@nextnet.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson) writes:
>In article <0qx172p@rpi.edu> mooras@rpi.edu writes:
>>[...]
>>The point is the Bible was mocked so Republican Christians could be mocked.
>>This is blatently wrong, and so far noone has justified (and never will) the
>>Word slicing that was done to the Bible. 
>>[...]
>
>Exactly.

I plead not guilty as charged.  Anybody else want to rag on me for a while?
I'm sorry if I've offended you.  Really I am.  I'm going to have to answer
to God, though, for what I've done, and not to you.  I'm willing to do so.

Some people are gonna get it, and some people are not.  Some people are
gonna be offended no matter what I do.  I can't help it.  But I'll tell
you what - I'm willing to bet my glow-in-the-dark praying hands statue
that whatever offense I've caused is nothing in comparison to the truly
hateful mail I've received.  Think about it.  You know who you are.  I'm
trying to forget who you are so I don't hold it against you.

I'm also heartily sick of this whole discussion.  Can we move on with
life?  Please?

>	Den
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>: Dennis M. Swanson : "No matter how long you live, remember that :
>: swansond@csus.edu : you will be dead much longer."  Eccl. 11:8b :
>:...................:.............................................:

Andy Whitman
AT&t Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
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From: rich@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Sybase)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Mentioning "God" on the radio
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:02:34 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Mentioning "God" on the radio
Summary: Crossover Artists... 
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Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Keywords: Amy Grant Michael Smith Crossover Pop 

In article <1er6muINNica@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> comm117@unixg.ubc.ca (Chin) writes:
>Just a couple of things on my mind from a newcomer to this group...
>
>(1) How many of you wish that some of the crossover artists (Amy Grant,
>    Michael W. Smith) would release a single from their CDs that
>    would explicitly mention God or Jesus? I was really hoping
>    that Amy would release the song "Ask Me" from her "Heart in
>    Motion" CD since it addressed the issue of God and Suffering,

I got the feeling that Amy intended to release the Song "Ask Me", but
something stopped it's release.  The song is very worthy of radio airplay,
and was even on the sticker of the Album (The Little one that says Featuring
the hits:Baby Baby, That's what Love is For, etc...).

I, being the total Amy Grant fan, do not feel that she has sold out.  Nor
has Michael W. Smith.  Their personal devotion to Christ and his message
is totally exident in conversation with them.  Amy has, as she said
"Put out an album of music that my nieces and nephews would listen to."
This being her goal, I am more that sure she attained it. 

The music may be secular in it's aim, but it is positive "pop", much better
than a lot of the music kids are listening to in these times that we live.
Without any heavy undertones, Amy and Michael's music conveys happiness!
Something that all parents should be more that willing to let their 
children enjoy.

Even thought her albums are main stream, there is still a message in her
madness.  Songs like "Ask Me" and "Hope set High" on the Heart in Motion
album convey the love and care that Christ has for all of us.  These songs
have reached every buyer of her #1 album.  PRAISE GOD!

Anyone who has more to ay can either post or e-mail me. Pro or Con,
all comments welcome at the following e-mail address:
rich@ucscb.ucsc.edu
 
From: dclaar@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Doug Claar)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:38:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: KLOVE...(was A word from our sponsor?!?)
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian

> For all those in Oregon and Northern California, if you
> don't know by now, KLOVE will probably be going off the
> air due to lack of support from listeners. Please pray for
> them and support them if you can.
> 
>     1 (800) 525-LOVE
> 
> in His grace,
> -- Tim

In the San Jose area, they're still on the air. It does seem, however,
that they got rid of one of their relay frequencies - 91.9 FM. You can
still catch them on 100.9 FM.

They do need our prayer and monetary support, though.

They went off the air for awhile, but received enough money to continue
until December.  But they are still short.  KLOVE plays contemporary
christian music 24 hours a day.  Because of the frequency they use, they
must be listener-supported (no commercials), and they've been having
trouble getting the bread (who isn't?).  They can be heard in parts of
Washington, Oregon, and Northern California.  If you are in those areas,
call the 800 number and ask if they are on in your area.  KLOVE is a
bunch of transmitters and repeaters linked together, so they have
different frequencies all over the place.

==Doug
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: What do you do when your child thinks Metallica is cool?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:40:49 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <nauman.721919816@hq> nauman@Pt.hq.af.mil (Stratton D Nauman) writes:

>4.  Forbid them to listen to Secular music.

Lets hope your kids don't develop a taste for Mozart or Lawrence Welk. 
Particularly the latter.



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if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
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From: cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Last Bard)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Daniel Amos albums.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:34:00 GMT

This is a question about Rob Watson... Was he ever an offical member of 
DA?  His name is grouped with the others on Fearful Symmetry but his picture
does not appear in the liner.

so I was thinking he was just a reccurent studio part of DA.

chip
From: urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Greetings 'n stuff
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:46:43 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Nov21.144035.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsdlb1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
> To use the somewhat famous programmer's line... "Hello Wild and Wacky CCM
> World!"  This is the first time that I have posted to a newsgroup so please
> allow me to intro m'self.  I was the token rock DJ for KUWL up here in
> Fairbanks until Pastor fired me over playing Dissolved by Circle of Dust.  I
> guess I wouldn't be so upset about it if we weren't playing upwards of 20hrs of
> P&W stuff every weekend.  Why is it that when there is an equally small
> minority of P&W addicts as there are rockers that churches always bow and
> scrape to P&W?? Maybe its because they have all the money.  (sigh)  It's not
> that Im bitter (mostly), just frustrated.  

Dude, I hate it. There are two Christian music radio stations here in Memphis,
 and they won't even do a half-hour a week for anything but "light listening
favorites". <Sigh>. If folks only realized the outreach potential to
non-Christians and struggling Christians alike. Oh, well. Excellent choice of
music, anyway. Thanx for the attempt, however futile.
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