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From: ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Emplant and 4000
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:08:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.41161
Organization: University of California, San Diego

When emplant is working, I was wondering what an AGA version of
emplant might work.  I understand (possibly) that AGA offers a
chunky pixel mode (as opposed to bit planes).  If this is true, you
could theoretically have emplant render directly into CHIP video
buffers instead of copying the MAC video in to CHIP like the 
current incarnation.  This should be much more straight forward.
(and faster).  I still doubt that you'll see 68000 color in your
life time -- Apple didn't even bother to do it.

Regards,
 
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From: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Emplant and 4000
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:35:02 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <jdrew.0jrq@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) 
writes:
> I knew Apple would say something, sometime!  ;-)

I wasn't replying as an Apple spokesman, just as a Mac user trying to 
correct some of the misinformation about Macs that often appears in this 
newsgroup.  I doubt you'll _ever_ get an 'official' Apple response.  :-)
  
> Actually, when we run Speedometer and other such system comparison
> programs, we find that the MAC II (68020) is barely faster than our MAC+.
> Yes, the bus is 32 bit but the speed in real-world testing is not 3-4
> times faster.  Now, the MAC IIx or cx (68030/68882) is 3-4 times faster.

Then there's something terribly wrong with your Mac II.  Years ago, I 
upgraded from a Mac Plus to a Mac II, and I did a fair amount of 
performance testing at the time.  The speed difference was very real, and 
certainly on the order of 3-4 times faster for equivalent operations.   A 
IIx is barely faster than a Mac II (10-15%, maybe).   In fact, there's 
really not that much difference between a II and a IIx besides the 
processor ('020 vs '030) - certainly not nearly enough to make a 2-3X 
performance difference.

- Dale Adams
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From: djs55750@dcl-nxt01 (David John Schulz)
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:31:18 GMT

jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) writes:


>> advice???
>>   Also, stop the DAMN power light from blinking every time emplant accesses
>> the disk drive!!! It's annoying as hell and gives the impression of a
>> childish Euro-hacker that wrote the thing.
>>   And, is there a way to keep the pointer from freezing every time the drives
>> are accessed?
>> 
>>   Comments. Jim???
>> 
>Ok, I will make an option to disable the LED, however, it is *very* handy
>for seeing what is going on.
> 

I'm confused, doesn't the Amiga blink (or turn on) the drive light *every*
time it accesses the drive?  Hence the notion of a power indicator.  


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Subject: Re: MultiDos problem ...
From: fulton@latcs2.lat.oz.au (John R Fulton)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:26:12 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia
Keywords: Multidos Crash

In article <1eb0i8INNbp@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> meeker@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Lemon Flavored Snapple) writes:
>
>I am having problems setting up MultiDos. I have an Amiga 500
>with 1.2 kickstart, and 1.3 workbench ( I don't actually use
>the workbench, but if it would make MultiDos work (which it
>hasn't) I WOULD use it ) ... Anyway, everytime I try to copy
>something from the PC disk, I get a crash.  Has anyone else
>had this problem, and if so, how did you fix it?  
>
>-Meeker@matt.ksu.ksu.edu 
>
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All though it doesn't say in the doc's it only works correctly under 2.0

	John
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From: whitem@jester.usask.ca (Matt White)
Subject: Re: Here's how to FTP to/from Wuarchive.
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:03:32 GMT

Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us?? (martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU) wrote:
: In article <70043@cup.portal.com>, Don_-_Hirschfeld@cup.portal.com writes:
: >Any way to read a txt file while at the ftp prompt without d/l-ing the
: >readme file?
: 
: 
: uh...print it??  jeeze..ya'd think paper was extinct.. :)
: 
: Jim

A lot of systems don't support the TYPE command to type files (they use it
to set the file type.  If you are using a unix system, you can view it by
doing the following:

FTP> get readme.txt -

to GET the file to STDOUT (the - indicates STDOUT), or you can use

FTP> get readme.txt |more

NOTE: no space between the | and the more.  This will get the file and
pipe it through the more pager.  A little easier than the first if the
file is more than one page.

Both of these work in either binary or text mode.

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From: givler@bermuda.cbm.commodore.com (Greg Givler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Amouse and Janus 2.1
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:57:59 GMT
Organization: Another Amiga UNIX System

In article <37068@cbmvax.commodore.com> givler@bermuda.cbm.commodore.com (Greg Givler) writes:
>In article <17489@mindlink.bc.ca> Tom_Gowdyk@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom Gowdyk) writes:
>>I did get the software from the person I bought it from.  What I'm talking
>>about is the new improved updated software that I don't seem to be able to
>>get anywhere.  I've tried my local dealers, most seem to be phasing out their
>>Amiga stock.  I've tried my local Commodore rep, he doesn't even know what
>>I'm talking about.  I've been a loyal Amiga user since the very beginning,
>>and I'm getting a little tired of all of the broken promises, vapourware etc
>>from Commodore.  Customer Service does not exist.  Letters go unanswered.
>
>
>Janus 2.1 can be gotten by dealers. I had a Customer tell me so on 
>CompuServe. I would suggest that you have your dealers contact Commodore.
>I have no control on the release of products. As far as I know Janus 2.1
>has not been released in Enhancer Kit form, but should be available 
>from Commodore as separate items. I believe that in my last post that I 
>mentioned this fact.
>
>About Customer Support, there is nothing that I can do about Commodore
>laying off most if not all of Customer Support. I am trying to 
>give you a modicum of support here. I am not ignoring you. I just don't
>seem to have the answers that you want. 


Let me explain this more clearly, Commodore no longer has internal Customer
Support. There is however a toll-free support line:

800-448-9987.

They should be able to help you with most of the basic problems. Actually,
the idea has been that our dealers should be able to help with Support, 
since they sell the machines and work with them regularly. When you need
more help you can always post to the Amiga groups. If you ask, you can 
usually get help from one of the Engineers. 

Sorry, if I misled anyone about U.S Customer Support.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:23:13 -0500 
From: Michael Witbrock <mjw+@cs.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: I got Emplant Working!!!

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.emulations: 19-Nov-92 I got Emplant
Working!!! Mike MacNeill@hercules.c (112)

> HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
[...]
> GET A REAL MAC YOU MORONS!!!!!!!!!!  

what a wanker.
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From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Subject: Re: A2286BB Power Dissipation
X-Spook-Fodder: hero heroin tree shrub bush birth life death FBI CIA NSA
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:13:25 GMT

In <1992Nov18.055645.24151@netcom.com> damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos) writes:

>I'm interested in the Power dissipation in watts of the A2286 bridgeboard.

>My board has a 287 installed, but i am *not* using a floppy drive on the 
>bridgeboard side. 

>While we're at it, i'm curious what the power dissipation is for the
>A3000 motherboard with only a floppy drive and no cards.

ah come on, doesn't *anybody* have some figures for me? i'd hate to have
to go buy an amp-clamp. and even that won't give me that accurate a figure...


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From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT NEWS
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:22:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: gn.1992Nov15.222243.15122
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Nov15.203540.23652@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mrubino@libws1.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.034258.57087@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE C. LIN) writes:
>>How many of you out there remember several posts back in May or June where
>>Jim said that the software will have it's own user's interface, and then after
>>several posts of how he should follow Commodore's guideline, he made a big
>>post about "just because Commodore published the guideline, it doesn't mean
>>everybody have to follow it.."  VERY unprofessional IMO.
>>.
>>I think after a week or so, he then made a post about how he/they will follow
>>the 2.0 OS guideline to make everybody happy... I GUESS NOT...
>>
>>I wish I had captured those lies from a few months ago...
>
>
>It is possible to simulate the 2.0 look and feel under 1.3 and thus follow
>the C= Style Guide.
Theoritically, yes.  But, the whole point is to not have to bother with 
"rolling your own" interface.  Why re-invent the wheel, when the OS will give
you a very nice interface with less programming involved?

If you were to take the time to program a complete 2.0 looking interface for 1.3
I mean, make it look "exactly" like 2.0.  Then run it on 2.0 machine, it would
be pretty damn slow.  Why? because system calls that can be handled by Kickstart 
would now be processed by software.  Also, you are limiting the future 
compatability of the software severely.

>
>- Mike
From: achim@video1.han.de (Joachim Gothe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Who has a working EMPLANT?
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:55:50 GMT
Reply-To: achim@video1.han.de  (Joachim Gothe)
Organization: Mix Broadcast Video and Computer
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel1

In article <jdrew.0jlv@cryo.rain.com>, Jim Drew writes:
>
>We have our 1200's ripped apart now and are working on hardware just for
>the A1200.  Yes, there will be an EMPLANT for Commodore's latest baby.
>
>Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.

FIRST (Please) make the MacII-Emulator working on all A2000/A3000.
We need:
A configurable Videodevice. (overscan PAL/NTSC)
A working HD-Device.
A working Device to use the Amiga-Ports for Parallel and Serial.
A working Device to use the SCSI-Controller from the Amiga-side.

A MAC/ci-Emulator (the Roms are 32-Bit clean)

WE NEED A GOOD MANUAL !!!!!!!

Use QuarkXPress, RagTime, Word or what else to create a real Manual on
your working EMPLANT. Give us this manual as "manual.sit.hqx" and we will
print it on our AMAX.

You can not sell Hardware without working Software !!!!!

Achim

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From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Golden Gate 486!!
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:49:37 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1992Nov18.184740.17770@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
> [I wrote]
>>>>PS: BTW, I was reading Amiga Format, and came across an article saying
>>>>    Commodore has released a new 386sx BB.  According to the article, it
>>>>    comes with 2MB of ram, usable by both the BB and the Amiga, and
>>>>    only costs #250.  Is that true?  Is this the same board we have been
>>>>    talking about for months? or is this a new board?  either way,
>>>>    #250 sounds good!  Any hope we can get it for US$400?
>>> 
>>	But, to have a setup comparable to a PC clone in all aspects, you
>>	would still need a VGA card, and a dedicated hard drive and 
>>	controller.  That also takes up two slots and a drive bay inside
>>	your Amiga.  Then you will also need a monitor switcher box.
>>	Thus add another $50+$300+$100+$30=$480.  For ~$900.00 you can by 
>>	a complete no-name 386sx clone with HD and monitor!!
> 
> True.
> 
>>	Now if Commodore improved the graphics performance to 16-color
>>	VGA and brought the fake HD performance up to an acceptable level
>>	so that you didn't need the add-ons for serious work, the 386sx BB
>>	would be a good deal, even if it costs a couple hundred more.  The
>>	BB would then be perfect for its intended purposed IMHO.  To run
>>	the productivity software not available for the Amiga.
> 
> True.
> 
> The point is: I have a XT BB and all those gadgets (ie, harddisk, VGA,
> multisync monitor, etc.)  I would like to just get rid of my 8088BB and
> get a 386sx BB! 
> 
> It might not make sense to anyone... but it makes sense to _me_. 
> 
	I have considered the 386sx BB also.  But I too have another BB to
	sell (A2286).  I've suggested this before:  Commodore should give
	a 'power up' program for older BB owners.  I think Vortex has a
	trade up program.  Does anyone have any experience with the Vortex
	386/486? that they can share?  I would be especially interested in
	folks who have used Windows,  Turbo C++ 3.0, or other demanding
	MS-DOS programs on it and have used the A2286 as well.
 
> Yours Sincerely,
> Kelvin
> e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
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From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: CSA Derringer 
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:42:36 GMT

cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP) writes:

>In article <1992Nov22.193405.20185@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>>
>>Ahem, Amazing Computing November 1992 (vol 7, no 11), p. 75:
>>
>> CSA (Computer Systems Associates)... announced the coming of a new accelerator
>> card for the A500 and A2000. This new card, the Derringer, is a 25 MHz, 68030-
>> based accelerator that promises A3000 performance for only $249.95. The
>> Derringer will support the addition of 1,2,4 or 8 MB of DRAM, together with
>> a 50 MHz 68881 or 68882 math coprocessor. Additional 16 and 32 MB DRAM
>> upgrades will be possible as future DRAM technology develops... the Derringer
>> is a single board, plug-and-play unit. It is completely auto-configuring and
>> replaces the 68000 CPU.
>>

>What is the difference between the old one from CSA?

I heard it is going to be smaller.  But what I do know of the mmr is that the 
memory daughterboard has been discontinued do to the yanking of the memory 
controller chip being pulled from the market.  So you can get the derringer
with more than the 1/2meg static ram.

Martin

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From: wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Update and comments!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 04:17:11 GMT

In article <22040034@hpmwmat2.sr.hp.com> mikep@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mike Powell) writes:
>Stuff deleted>	
Most of what you said I not only agree with, but should go without saying.
Some of it was pure "lame".  (ie. BS)

>Bad developers must be forced out of the Amiga market. 

So, are you suggesting that we let you and your closest friends compile
a "black-list" of companies and the rest of us should all ban them?
I'll make my own decisions, THANK-YOU!
Burn as I may, "I'll do it MY WAY!"  8)

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind seeing valid complaints about companies
and their products, but don't try to tell me who I should do business with.
Yes, I did "shy" away from "a certain Mail-Order" company recently.

>But unconditional support for any company just because they
>claim to be producing an Amiga product is quite short-sighted.
No one has suggested *unconditional* support for ANYTHING!
What are you talking about?

>The contidion must be that they are developing a good product.
So now you're telling us what that condition has to be?
And who's idea of "good" are we going to use?  YOURS?!?

>Clearly, EMPLANT's initial release does not belong in that catagory.
Does this mean that Emplant will NEVER be a good product?
Does this mean UU will NEVER give good customer support?
(Remember...."NEVER" is a long,long time)

So far, I've been quite happy with UU's customer support.
They've been nothing but helpful/courteous/informative/patient/understanding.
I can't say the same for their customers.  
Or, are you whiners actually customers?

I didn't say that UU has been great or even good with deadlines!
I found several comments/remarks by Jim to be unprofessional/unseasoned.
But, he's not a public relations person.  In fact, I seriously doubt that
UU even has a PR person or commitee to decide release dates/announcements!
This *IS* a small company!  You can't expect all the glossy shine of
a Multi-Million dollar company like Microsoft.  Of course I would expect
at least a working product!  (But in time......)

UU reminds me of Perot, 
"Both have the BALLS to go where no Man has gone before, 
 but neither are quite ready to go anywhere!"
Perot was a non-politician running for PRESIDENT OF US.
UU sold a emulate-everything board that didn't work at all. (Some now do)


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From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: PC-Task does'nt emulate MathCad
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:29:10 EST
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

>my text app fine.  However I tried to run MathCad and I got a weird screen.
>Can the non-demo version run MathCad?????

Blue title bar on the top with a changing character in the top left corner
correct?  I had the same thing.  It does seem to work for some reason, if
you aren't in CGA mode.


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From: umlavoi6@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tim Lavoie)
Subject: Re: emulators
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:44:21 GMT

In article <torban.721905619@csuvax1> torban@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Torban Bennett) writes:
>Torban Bennett - I always wanted to write an IBM emulator, it puts a prompt
>	         on your screen, and beeps every time you press a key ;-)

I did find a joke "PC emulator" called ibm3 or something like that. It was
a fairly small program, that opened what appeared to be a Herc mono screen
after a brief bit of Guru flashing. I gave all sorts of humorous error
messages like "cpu not found error", and had funny captions if you read
the directory listings the right way. If I have some time later (like a
ocuple days) I'll see if I can find and post it somewhere. It was well
worth a giggle.
From: pruttman@cerebus.cc.edu (Pete Ruttman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: emplant and Hard drive
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:07:09 GMT
Reply-To: pruttman@cerebus.cc.edu (Pete Ruttman)
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI

Does or when will Emplant allow me to use my A3000's harddrive with
the emulator?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: Vince@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Vince Koh Kia Keng)
Subject: Emplant and OpalVIsion...
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:31:56 GMT

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hmmm...works fine with our OpalVision as well as other customer's...  
                                                                      
                                                                      
Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.                  
           1641 McCulloch Blvd. Suite #25-124                         
           Lake Havasu City, AZ  86403                                
           (602) 680-9004     (602) 680-9006 FAX    (602) 453-9767 BBS
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	Jim, does this mean that you are working on a video driver for	
EMplant and OpalVision?  If so, when will it be ready?  I do plan to
get both Emplant and Opalvision in the near future...
	Thanks.

-Vince

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From: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)
Subject: Re: The Emplant Ordeal.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:08:55 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <jdrew.0jmd@cryo.rain.com> jdrew@cryo.rain.com (Jim Drew) 
writes:
> The MAC emulation can work with a 68000 if you want to run *15 TIMES
> SLOWER* that a real MAC+...we're talking slower than old IBM XT's here.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Very true - especially considering that an IBM XT (i.e., an 8088 running 
at 4 -5 MHz or so) is slower than a Mac Plus (with an 8 MHz 68000).

- Dale Adams

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