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From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Strange neck injury after exercise--
Date: 7 Sep 92 02:26:13 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


 Last wed I did a few weight reps such as bench presses and lat pulldowns.
That was in the afternoon. I had a 3.1 mile race that evening. Before I
went out for the race I stretched as usual, and I did a YOGA PLOUGH which
I rarely do but my back felt a bit stiff. (The plough is executed by laying
on one's back and bringing the legs straight up and back till the knees are
just about touching the face and the feet are pointing in the same direction
as the top of the head).

I hope I haven't lost any neck specialists yet but it's hard to describe the
plough in words. Hopefully most people know what it looks like.

All was still fine with my neck.

I went out and ran the race. With about 1 mile to go I felt something sort of
click in my neck. I finsished the race but afterwards the pain got worse.

If I move my head around I hear clicking crunching sounds (eeggghh), but at
least aspirin works very effectively in stopping the moderate discomfort.

I never really believed in chirpractors but I'd swear something in my neck
was out of place and needs to be put back where it belongs.

I've not stopped training-- which entails cycling and running, although I've
stopped weights and ploughs.

MY QUESTION is: ;what is it, how long will it last, and how do I get rid of
it. This assumes anyone here (doctors, chiropractors, vodoo, medical) have 
any ideas.

 THANKS!

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From: taob@generic.uucp (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: Knee surgery
Organization: Terra*Net Public Access Unix BBS.  (416) 731-{3468,9867}, 237-0308
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:10:11 GMT

sh240031@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>How is this going to affect my skiing?  How long will rehab take?  What is the
>worst case scenario?

     Hey, I simply hyperextended my knee a year ago and didn't ski all
last year.  I think you could probably expect to do the same, or lack
thereof.  This year, I'm gonna ski enough to make up for it.   Just one
piece of advice:  Make sure to do everything the rehab guys tell you to.
You will heal a lot faster.  Realistically speaking, I wouldn't expect to
do any extreme skiing anymore if I were you, if of course, you were doing
such things in the past.

Christopher.

-- 
Brian T. Tao    =*8-) | ::::::::> tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca <::::::::
Dept. of Exobiology   | :::::> generic!terranet!taob@zoo.toronto.edu <:::::
University of Toronto | "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Sumatriptin (migraine treatment)
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:03:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1992Sep15.161542.12890
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Some time ago there was a mention of a new antimigraine drug, Sumatriptin. If I
remember correctly it is a more specific treatment for migraines compared to
vasoconstrictors and/or analgesics.

Does anyone have any further information about it, it's mode of action (again
from memory, I think it reacts with 5HT2 receptors), side effects etc? Summary
info and/or journal refs would be useful.

It is not available either by Rx or OTC in the US. Is it available in Canada?
If so, does anyone know of any pharmacies in Canada that would be willing to
sell Sumatriptin by mail order, with a Rx from my physician here in the US if
necessary?

thanks,

gary
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: hollasch@kpc.com (Steve Hollasch)
Subject: Appropriate Group for Discussion of Dementia (e.g. Alzheimer's)?
Summary: Looking for newsgroup or mailing-list for this topic.
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:39:15 GMT

    Is there a newsgroup other than sci.med that is appropriate for
discussion of dementia and related disorders, such as Alzheimer's disease?
If you're not aware of one but are interested, please drop me a note; I'm
considering the creation of alt.alzheimers (for lack of a better, more
recognized name), but want to make sure that nothing else already exists
for this.

______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Hollasch                                   Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
hollasch@kpc.com                                 Santa Clara, California
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: L-tryptophan and insomnia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:35:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Keywords: amino acids   FDA   alternative approaches


Steve Dyer indicates that l-tryptophan may still be off the market
because it's not certain that the problems with it were caused by
the contaminant.

A friend of mine, who was perhaps lucky not to get a bad batch or was
not susceptible to the problems with it, had seemingly powerful and
effective symptomatic relief from insomnia by taking it. Since she's
also tried other over-the-counter substances claiming relief from
insomnia, without success, it's unlikely her success with l-t was due
to the placebo effect.

Is the anti-insomnia modality of l-t known, assuming there is one? Are
there any other over-the-counter substances known to be effective
against insomnia, preferably with few or no side effects? She's tried
the "usual" over-the-counter sleep pills and they don't help.

Thanks;
David
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Children of smokers
Date: 15 Sep 1992 10:25:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu





I've been wondering for a while if children of smokers, who live in a
smokey environment, develop any sort of physical tolerance for or addiction
to the smoke.  Is there any way of telling?  Or is the nicotine, which I
gather is the addictive part, only absorbed by the smoker him/herself?


It seems strange than so many children take up smoking at an early age, and
I have wondered if maybe they're already addicted before they start. 

Even if this is possible, would there be any way to test for it?  Are there
chemical tests for dependency on drugs, or is the diagnosis always made on
the obvious evidence?  For instance, could you take a blood sample and find
out I'm hooked on coffee?

Just curious...


Bonita Kale
From: 901371d@dragon.acadiau.ca (Danny Nathin DiDio)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Hemp and the effects(?)]
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:00:35 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


 I was wondering exactly what the effects were when on
THC.What gets you high,does the drug actually wipe out 
neurons?
From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Victims; was: Re: Xanax
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:44:35 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep8.152258.28377@news.eng.convex.com> cash@convex.com (Peter Cash) writes:
>
>You know, there's something oddly pathological about this insistence that
>"parental abuse" is the source of all mental illness....
>
>I guess part of the motivation to see the world this way comes from a deep
>desire (and need) to be able to claim title to the role of "victim". It's
>sooo "empowering".

Precisely,  "Nobody should expect very much from me because
             (a) I was a victim of child abuse; or
             (b) I belong to an oppressed minority."

What happened to the American dream of _overcoming_ one's disadvantages?  :)
-- 
+ Michael Covington - Artificial Intelligence Programs - U of Georgia - USA 
+ Unless otherwise noted, these are private opinions, not official statements.
+ VOTE NO GEORGIA LOTTERY - we need not imitate mistakes of other states.
From: sean+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sean McLinden)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Rising Medical Costs. Was: Mercury in fillings?
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:19:37 GMT
	<16361@pitt.UUCP>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Jeez! Gone for a year and when I come back we're still talking about
mercury fillings, house officer call, Gordon's, Ken's, and Steve D's
sensitivities to the many victims of the health care conspiracy,
malpractice, masturbation, and whether anyone in medicine knows or
gives a damn about statistics!

Is this a "sci." newsgroup or a soap opera!

Sean McLinden
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: jcarey@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (John Carey)
Subject: Re: tiger lilly
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:40:38 GMT

Tiger lillies are used in chinese cooking.  If it was toxic there
would be a lot fewer chinese people in this world.
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: L. Day, Md
From: Kurt.Ullman@p0.f290.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Kurt Ullman)
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:59:54 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/290.0 - The RoadHouse BBS (, Indianapolis IN

Steve Dryer wrote:

SD>More FIDOnet crap.  THIS is one place where sci.med could be improved:
SD>shut the FIDOnet feed off for good.

        Lets not paint with too large of a brush. I am a FidoNet user
and I take this somewhat personal.  Many of us lurk in the shadows
and only come out if we have something to contribute. Besides many of
the tangents come from your side too (I don't believe the thread about
the great fire detector eating championships started on Fido).
        And there is some expertise on this side, too. I for instance am
a R.N.  with a Master's Degree in Health Administration and ANA
certification in my specialty--psychiatry. I am a contributing editor
for Firehouse (where I write a column on EMS clinical issues) and CV
Nurse magazines. I also write extensively for Cardiology World News and
Law and Order magazines.
        So anyway, let's calm down a little and look at things in the
 proper perspective.

 

--  
Internet: Kurt.Ullman@p0.f290.n231.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: roihar@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: Reading for prospective dad-to-be
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:28:50 GMT

HI: Just a reminder to not take things too seriously and to
    enjoy the experience! I recommend that you get your hands
    on a copy of Dave Barry's "Babies and other Hazards of Sex"
    I'm not quite sure this is e
xactly
the title but it is close. This book will ease the transition
to selflessness and TOTAL REPONSIBILITY FOR ANOTHER LIFE!
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Wen - Treatment thereof
Keywords: wen
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:33:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <BuL620.1w0@apollo.hp.com> ganek@apollo.hp.com (Dan Ganek) writes:
>What's the conventional treatment for a 5-10 yo half-dollar
>size wen?  It's in an inconspicuous place under my arm.
>
>Nothing?

That's one possibility.  Needle aspiration or excision are the others.
I suppose it depends on what's in the mass.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: marco@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Giammarco)
Subject: Re: Xanax
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:17:19 GMT

I suffered from Panic Disorder for 11 years. Xanax is one drug that
effectively suppressed my panic attacks so that I could concentrate
on group therapy. For you anti-psychotheraputic drug types, you need
to understand that trying to engage in any meaningful therapy is 
fairly difficult when your heart if racing, your chest feels crushed,
and you feel that if youdon't force your next breath to happen it
might not.

You can quote any book you like. I _lived_ the goddamn experience, you
knucklehead! I might also add that I've been in uninterrupted remission
for two years now, BECAUSE psychotheraputic drug regimen allowed me to
get my foot in the door to "fix" the psychological problems I had.

My $0.02. Your mileage may vary.

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Subject: Re: [Prescription Privileges]
Organization: The Cat Factory
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:31:01 GMT

In article <88516@netnews.upenn.edu> zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla) writes:

}What do mental health professionals out there see as the future of
}prescription privileges vis a vis clinical psychologists?
}
}	1)  Should an appropriately trained psychologist be granted
}limited prescription privileges of psychoactive medications?

Such a program exists, or, at least, used to.  It was possible for a Ph.D.
psychologist to spend a year studying pharmacology at UC Berkeley and be
granted prescription privileges.  I don't know if this is still the case.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405
Newsgroups: sci.med,va.general
From: oispeggy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Peggy Brown)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: MIGRAINE
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep4.192249.3930@desire.wright.edu>, sbishop@desire.wright.edu writes...
>In article <Btwyy4.DIL@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, popetz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Clinton C. Popetz) writes:
>> Don.Hayes@f914.n714.z3.fidonet.org (Don Hayes) writes:
>> 
>>>Are there any migraine sufferers out there?? In trying to get a better 
>>>understanding of my own affliction I'd be interested in your experiences so 
>>>perhaps I can stop my attacks.
>> 

I suffer from migraines.  They started suddenly 2-1/2 years ago 
at the same time I started having sever sinus infection problems.

Both my OTO and neurologist think they are triggered by sinus 
pressure.  I've had 2 sinus surgeries so far, which greatly 
improved my situation.  I take tavist-d (1 pill at night) 3-4 
times per week, and as long as I do that I rarely get a migraine, 
and when I do get one its not real bad.  If I stop the tavist-d I 
get a bad migraine within a week - in bed, in pain, puking my 
guts out for 6-8 hours.

- Peggy -
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Therapy and Psychiatry  (was: Anti-psychiatry)
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:15:24 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Sep4.142840.11806@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cpr4k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christian P. Roberts) writes:

>I thank you for the information you provide over the net, Gordon.
>I want to say, however, that efficiency is not the only thing to
>consider in psychotherapy.  What works and assists the person in
>finding a wholeness in a real world and healthy self-esteem which
>lasts beyond therapy - this is what's important to those of us in
>therapy.  What works for one may not work for another.  Drugs may
>seem to provide quicker results, but the results may not be lasting.
>John and I seem to agree that therapy may be the means to a health
>for some of us.  Drug therapy helped me through a very anxiety-ridden
>period, but then I needed to attend to the causes, and that is where
>psychoanalysis has provided the tools.

I have no objection to you or anyone else with the time and money
using whatever techniques you find useful in gaining greater
fullfillment as a person.  As long as you don't claim that
psychoanalysis will cure (or even help much with) things like
schizophrenia, major depression, etc.  That's what psychiatrists
deal with most, and properly so, since they are major, major, problems.
I'm not saying your problems aren't important, but I suspect they
aren't of the order of magnitude I am talking about.  As far
as discovering the causes, well, I am a bit skeptical about the
validity of psychoanalytic assertions of what causes what, but
if you find its framework a comfortable one to hang your hat on,
fine with me.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gordon Banks  N3JXP      | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu   |  it is shameful to surrender it too soon." 
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From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: the invasion of the NLP droids (was Re: Xanax)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 11:39:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


Mark Kline posts a skeptical, "chip on the shoulder" message in
which he tries to put me in the role of having to prove something
about NLP and failing.

That is not my role. I was reporting on my observations and
experience. If Mark Kline does not like them he is free to
play in some other therapeutic arena, though his assertions
about his own "phobia cures" raise the most serious questions.
These have been asked by another so I need not repeat them.

Recall that this whole thing started when someone made the assertion
that symptom suppression doesn't work, and I pointed out that this was
a discredited theory that never had any empirical evidence. Others
here subsequently confirmed my position from their own non-NLP
professional backgrounds.

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Xanax
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 11:19:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


Gordon Banks asks fair questions about the evidence the people cured
by Tony Robbins of phobias were in fact phobics and were in fact "cured".

They were selected by their own therapists, often hostile to Robbins,
as examples of intractable cases of phobia.

The "cure" was pronounced by the patients and their therapists.

Since there were many, and there was no pre-selection by Robbins,
the episodic evidence seems pretty persuasive.

If one wishes to pick nits (I don't suggest Banks does) one can
argue that there were no double-blind experiments, etc. But
the same may be said of Freud and many other "accepted" therapists
and therapies so I don't think this needs to meet more than
conventionally accepted standards of efficacy in this particular
arena.

David
From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Xanax
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:22:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep8.152258.28377
Organization: The Instrumentality
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Sep4.185731.8543@equator.com> jod@equator.com (John Setel O'Donnell) writes:
...
lots of blather
...

>(Overall, psychotherapy has a lousy track record precisely because many
>psychotherapists are also invested in denying parental abuse.  

You know, there's something oddly pathological about this insistence that
"parental abuse" is the source of all mental illness. It's as though there
were a vast conspiracy of parents everywhere to abuse their children--and
an even vaster conspiracy to cover up this "abuse". Yes, even the
psychiatric profession is in the service of this evil conspiracy--nay, one
can see that they are the very high priests of this cult of abuse and
denial. 

I guess part of the motivation to see the world this way comes from a deep
desire (and need) to be able to claim title to the role of "victim". It's
sooo "empowering".

Weird stuff.
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
             |      Die Welt ist alles, was Zerfall ist.     |
Peter Cash   |       (apologies to Ludwig Wittgenstein)      |cash@convex.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: elpysh@nuscc.nus.sg (Yeoh Saw Heng (Ms))
Subject: HELP! CANCER - C2
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 03:10:07 GMT

Dear Readers,

My neighbour's mother, an old lady in her 70s, has been diagnosed as
having cancer after having had a lump removed from her gall bladder. The
doctor says the cancer is at Duke's stage (I don't know what that means)
and recommends chemotherapy or radiotherapy.

The old lady is reluctant to be treated: she has heard that the side
effects are quite unpleasant. There is also the matter of cost - she
feels that she has lived a long life and she does not want to consume
her daughter's savings just so she can live a few years longer. If it is
time to leave, she is ready.

My neighbour is devastated. She is extremely devoted to her mother and
wants her to agree to treatment because there is a chance (30%) of total
recovery. Along comes another doctor who tells her that there is a new
drug for chemotherapy, which can be taken orally. It has minimum side
effects and costs a great deal less than conventional chemotherapy.

The mother is more willing to try this drug than to go for conventional
treatment. The trouble is we have no information about this drug which
is supposed to be made in Japan, and which has not gained acceptance (at
least that's what I understand) elsewhere because it is so new. The
doctor who recommended this drug doesn't seem ready to reveal the name
of the drug.

My question is: Is there such a drug? Or am I just being unfairly
suspicious?

If anyone knows something or has an opinion what to do or a suggestion,
please post a reply. Apart from just being there when my neighbour needs
someone to talk to, I don't know what I can do to help. It's terrible to
see someone who is normally cheerful and confident go to pieces while
you stand helplessly by.

Saw-Heng
From: c_lakhan@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (C Lakhani)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Sinus and Ears - Problems
Summary: Surgery seems to have made it worse
Keywords: Alternative Practitioners
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:16:03 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England

I have suffered from allergy related sinus problems for 12 years or so.
Last year things got so bad that I opted for ENT surgery in march. Basically, the surgeon straightened the bone in my nose and did a "washout".  The next 10
days were dreadful. My nose decided that the supports were foreign bodies and kept wanting to sneeze but that made my nose bleed.

To cut a long story short, I now have very painful ears. My GP says that my ear-drum is impacted, probably a blockage of some sort.   Does anybody out there 
have any positive experience with orthodox medicine for this complaint or 
should I seek alternative treatment?.  If so, what and where?
From: stettbac@isibee3 (Juerg Stettbacher)
Subject: computer screen troubles eyes
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:34:32 GMT


Hello world

After working at my computer screen, my eyes seem to be troubled for
about one, sometimes two days.
The thing is: Bright surfaces (particularly red and yellow, such as
car colors or luminous advertisings) seem to have regular, dotted
pattern.
Did anyone observe a similar effect? Or does anyone know about such
troubles?


Thanks for reply
juerg at ethz switzerland