HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: doconnor@sedona.intel.com (Dennis O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: $$$$ for taping Simpsons
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:18:25 GMT
	<4181@vidiot.UUCP> <4182@vidiot.UUCP>
Organization: Intel i960(tm) Architecture


brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
] In article <4181@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
] <I can guarantee that the FBI is going to come after the person taping the
] <program and selling it to cover costs to the other person.  No one, and I
] <mean no one, has ever gone to jail for doing that.
] <
] <Just like no consumer has been charged for having a modified VCII and there
] <are THOUSANDS of those units out there.
]
] Sorry, slip of the fingers, the first line of my response should be:
]
] I can guarantee that the FBI is NOT going to come after the person taping the

What's your "guarantee" worth ? Will you pay legal fees and serve the time ?
Remember Steve jackson Games ? That had never happened before, either.

] Black market tapes have been around for a long, long time.

How many black market tapers run ads in nationwide media ? Advertising
that you want to commit a felony is a great way to get made an example of.

Get a life, people. No TV program is worth committing a felony for.

--
Dennis O'Connor			doconnor@sedona.intel.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: len@netsys.com (Len Rose)
Subject: Re: Usenet News via Satellite
Organization: Netsys Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:34:47 GMT


Hi..

 Taken in the spirit of good humor,please..

 "Everyone needs a cause,man.."

Len Rose 


Ps.. We will soon be supporting Vax/VMS thanks to our latest developer.


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From: gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders)
Subject: sci-fi commericals
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 (1200/2400/v.32/pep)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 22:06:08 GMT



SCFI channel has been great... About the only annoying thing in the
commericals. I dont mind commericals on a "FREE" channel, but are
SCFI views really that messed up that we would be calling psyic advisors?
Commericals must be cheap.......
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:06:07 -0500
From:         "(Adam Duff)" <duff@PHENOM.PHYSICS.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      a couple of technical questions ...

Out of curiosity, just what kind of horizontal resolution (in lines)
can one get out of current satellite programming?

I know that the received signal is wideband FM of a given bandwidth, but
what is the original baseband video bandwidth (and corresponding horizontal
resolution)?

Also, what sort of video S/N ratios are attainable using current consumer
equipment?

Thanks,
Adam.
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 00:51:48 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: WANTED: Satellite Information

Some poor lost person wrote:

>nn
>qquit
>qquit
>qquit
>qquit
>qquit
>exit

It was cute....  I just wanted to see it again...

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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:19:57 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: SENATE TRIES TO OVERRIDE CABLE BILL VETO TODAY!

>Call, don't write, your senators' offices today. You can usually find their
>phone numbers in the phone book.


I DID, I called everyone in question, and we     W O N   ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I am only saddened that Shaun was not here to gloat with us.  What a show he
would have had...

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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: len@netsys.com (Len Rose)
Subject: Re: FREE Usenet via satellite to continue
Organization: Netsys Inc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:57:19 GMT

flash@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Gary Bourgois,Hamshack) writes:

Some non-related comments deleted..

>I know there is a commercial system that already has the net up.  However, my
>BBS certainly can NOT afford the costs involved, and I imagine others are in
>the same situation.  I am also a strong believer in "grass roots" user and
>grant supported systems rather than commercial ventures.  I guess I got this 
>way from 10 years working for NPR and PBS affiliates.

 You know, this is really a case of false economy. If you must have news,
 and are currently paying phone costs and or connect charges, it is cheaper 
 to obtain news from us. We are nationwide,we send up every newsgroup in the
 entire net (as many as we can get anyway)  as fast as it comes in via nntp 
 (internet) .. AND we don't charge other fees. Figure it out yourself. 

 Like Gary, we want to support higher speeds, and we can do
 it immediately, but it's too expensive for most people.. It would probably
 add $400 to the present costs of the system to go with 14.4k (but we have done
 it reliably) .. 

>In any case, all you need to receive the transmissions is a simple cable to
>run the audio from your satellite system (preferably the earphone jack of
>your stereo) to your computer modem.  You probably have the making of this
>cable laying around.  If you have not yet tried receiving the data, either
>put in a T-160 videotape and record beginning at 3AM saturday mornings, or
>stay up and start recording on a T-120 for later archiving.  I don't expect
>ANYONE to stay up and baby sit this week's transmission (there are a number
>of breaks in the transmission, so you need to reconnect)

Like Stargate, I believe any free system is doomed to death, if nothing else
because you have to depend on the good will, and favors of someone somewhere
who will eventually get bored, or burnt out. I salute Gary, and the people
involved in this "project" , since this is the sort of thing that drives most 
of us to dream up new inventions that keep this country thriving. For 24 hour/
7 day service and massive amounts of news, give us a call.



Len

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From: rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: SatcomF2/tr20- TF1???
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:51:33 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

As a (as of now) still non-Sat owner I have a question for those who
can check this out, i'd appreciate it. I read in ORBIT mag. that in
the C band on Satcom F2 on transponder 20 a 'FRENCH ONE TV' can be found.
I presume this is TF1 of France, the largest private channel in France.
Can anyone provide me with any details as to what the transponder
is used for? Is it strictly wild feeds or do they use it to relay
domestic TV to the French territories?

What are they broadcasting in? SECAM? PAL? NTSC?

I appreciate any responses... either POST or eMAIL me direct at..

rwkobent@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca

Thanks!

robert kobenter
Victoria, BC Canada

Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: erik@vcd.hp.com (Erik Kilk)
Subject: Re: NEXP Wild Feed FOUND!
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:48:04 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4


4 am in which time zone?

Erik
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:25:55 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: SBC.EXE - Europe's Satellites

Thanks Wolfgang, a nice handy file!

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From: boubez@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu (Toufic Boubez)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: to: flash@lopez (re: the Scrounger's Guide)
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:47:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hi there. I tried emailing you, but the mail bouced. Anyway, this might be
of general interest, so I figured I'd post. In the FAQ article (pretty
good, thaks!), you mention an artilce that you wrote, entitled the
Scrouger's Guide. Could I please get a copy? Thanks.

toufic
            R 2 4      Toufic Boubez
            |_|_|      boubez@cesl.rutgers.edu
            | | |      Computational Engineering Systems Lab
            1 3 5      CAIP Center, Rutgers University, NJ
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:22:09 +0200
Comments:     Internet address: bimacs.cs.biu.ac.il. Bitnet address:
              bimacs.bitnet. Old internet address (bimacs.biu.ac.il) is
              available only temporarily.
From:         "(Yaacov ben-yaacov)" <yaacov@BIMACS.CS.BIU.AC.IL>
Subject:      New channels

On 10 E TVE 1 and TVE 2 Spain are on
does anyone know if this is for good?
2.  There is a new channel on Asiasat
   It has a white screen with
  	Namaste
	  Zee
     on  it .
   It has sound on two different frequencies in two
   an unknown language.  and on the third frequency
BBC Radio.
does anyone know what it is ?

3.  What is happening with Brightside?
		 	Yaacov Ben-Yaacov
			Internet : yaacov@bimacs.biu.ac.il
			Bitnet   : yaacov@bimacs.bitnet
From: rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Intelsat K in North America?
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:14:19 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation




Intelsat - k question:

I hear from Wolfgang that DW-TV is sending programming over to
North America on iK. Abyone watching it yet? What are the times
and channel, and what is the range? How far WEST can it be seen?

Any one other than DWelle using it yet?

Is Deutsche Welle using it for Audio as well?

Thanks for any feedback!

robert kobenter

rwkobent@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca
robert@softwords.bc.ca
rwkobent@bcsc02.bitnet
alumni113@camosun.bc.ca


victoria BC Canada, the we(s)t coast of Canada ;)

Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: If you're thinking of getting a dish
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 16:03:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <18666.2ad0a49a@ecs.umass.edu> jhwelch@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>>  Too bad someone couldn't design a paper model
>> with this arc on it so prospective owners could get a feel for where
>> the arc is.
>
>Around the spring and fall equinoxes one doesn't need a paper
>model to see the arc - just go look at where the sun i for
>a rough idea at least.
>

And now is the best time to look at the sun -- the sun outages are
going to be the most severe this week.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: rhino@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Rhino Project)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Satellite...What can you do?
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:33:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: nomad.eeap.cwru.edu

We're building a new house out of the city and I was wondering
what sort of stuff one can do nowadays with a dish other than
watch 3 million T.V. shows.... How much would a mid to top
of the line system cost and what does top of the line allow
over middle of the line. Finally but most importantly please
email me what you have done with the system or now you can
do? Thanks...

P.S. Please email replies!!!!
Carlin

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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:48:30 EDT
From:         "Ralph P. Mazeski (CCAC-LAD)" <rmazeski@PICA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: [Dennis O'Connor: Re: $$$$ for taping Simpsons]

Heavens to Betsy!!!!  I guess all government employees are G-men
who will put you and your IRD in the slammer and throw the
key away!!!

:-)

Ralph

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From: Dennis O'Connor <doconnor@sedona.intel.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: $$$$ for taping Simpsons
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:43:10 GMT
To:       rec-video-satellite@pica.army.mil


g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
] 1) I will offer $$$$ to anyone willing to tape future Simpsons episodes
]    for me,

Do we really need to keep telling people that this is a crime in the
US and most other countries? Worse, conspiring to do it will get you
a felony conspiracy conviction in the US.

Don't do it folks. A felony conviction will ruin your life. And
USENET _is_ known to be read by government employees.




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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Spacenet 1 sold!!!! and Usenet/r.v.s. stats
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 23:30:36 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na


Here is the hot news I promised Gary on this week's FNL to post:

 
 I heard this item during a recent SBCA talk show on satellite TV:
 According to an article in _Satellite News_ (Phillips
 Publishing), GTE Spacenet's Spacenet 1 has been sold to Hong-Kong
 based Asian Pacific Telecommunications (APT) for what many
 insiders are estimating to be $20-50 million.  GTE Spacenet is
 also looking to sell Spacenet 2, Spacenet 3R, Spacenet 4, and
 GSTAR-1.  Rumors have it that Intelsat wants to buy Spacenet 2
 and is looking to possibly buy more of the Spacenet fleet to help
 out in trans-Pacific telecommunications.  GTE Spacenet does not
 want to sell GSTARs 2, 3, 4 and ASC-1.  It is not known when
 Spacenet 1 will be turned off and moved to the Asian satellite
 arc.
 
 
 
and here is the stat I thought you'd find interesting.  I found
it on the news.lists newsgroup:

 
 
         +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
         |     +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
         |     |     +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
         |     |     |      +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
         |     |     |      |      +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
         |     |     |      |      |      +-- Crossposting percentage
         |     |     |      |      |      |    +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
         |     |     |      |      |      |    |      +-- Share: % of newsrders
         |     |     |      |      |      |    |      |   who read this group.
         V     V     V      V      V      V    V      V
  
       17000   570   72%   678  1352.0     2%  0.11   1.2%  rec.video.satellite
 
 
Robert

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From: larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: If you're thinking of getting a dish
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:49:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance

In article <jhansen.717968436@convex.convex.com>, jhansen@convex.com
 (James Hansen) writes:
 
|> >You only
|> >have to be able to see the middle/upper third of this arc. Trees and
|> >buildings aren't anywhere near the obstacles that you may think they
|> >are.
|> 
|> Also depends on your location.  Someone's view of the arc from say,
|> Brownsville, Texas, is quite different from someone in Portland, Maine
|> or Seattle, Washington.

Ok, I live very close to Milwaukee, WI if anyone is thinking of installing
a dish in that general area.
From: artb@hplsla.hp.com (Art Bori)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: 4 head vs 2 head
Date: 23 Sep 92 18:55:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.5200074
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA


I think I missed the discussion about 4 head versus 2 head VCRs.  Did anyone
save that thread?  Alternatively, could someone post what 4 head and 2 
head VCRs do? 

Thanks,
Art Bori
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Cable "silver bullets"
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:20:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvG7yr.8Gr
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <91059@netnews.upenn.edu> george@mech.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>: I agree, though, that in the long run having
>:you own satellite dish will save you money.
>:However, how much extra money would 
>:I need to spend to get a descrambler, etc?
>:
>
>in my brief look into going sattelite, it became apparent that to
>_legally_ watch just 'basic' programs ( like CNN ) monthly charges
>would quickly surpass a basic cable bill.

Probably true - if you get them ALL. But how many of us actually watch
ALL of the channels we get? Conversely, how many cable systems bring in
ALL the channels we really want?

If I could get a dish, I'd pick and choose and only pay for the channels
I watch, and I'd get ALL the channels I wanted, not just those that the
cable company in its infinite wisdom has selected for me. Plus aren't
the vast majority of satellite channels unscrambled?
From: CNORRIS@UA1VM.UA.EDU (charles norris)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: used/broken vcrs
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:43:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Recently, I posted on this net about wanting to buy used vcrs,
Something happened to about half my email last week, so if I
did not respond please forgive...I am still looking for vhs vcrs
to learn from.
thx
Charles
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From: wowoc@acs.ucalgary.ca (Witold Owoc)
Subject: SCART connectors in North America, where ?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 05:26:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, AB, Canada
Followup-To: rec.video

Is there any place in the North America (preferably in Western
Canada :-) selling SCART (EuroConnector) plugs ?

Would an RGB output from a PAL device (e.g. Sony LD player) be
compatible with RGB inputs of mid-80 TVs (for example early Sony XBRs
had such "computer" inputs) ?  I am aware of broadcast multisystem/RGB
monitors sold here but neither their sizes nor prices are enticing,
though the quality is :-)

Thank you for responding (both e-mail and postings are OK).

Witold Owoc <wowoc@acs.ucalgary.ca>

#disclaimer "my.private.views"
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From: george@mech.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Cable "silver bullets"
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:04:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineering

:
:I hope the cable companies drop the broadcast stations alltogether. 

they would loose a significant portion of their subscribers.
--
-george            george@mech.seas.upenn.edu
From: subu@sensors.njit.edu (Ayyagari V. Subramanyam)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: VIDEO FORMATS
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:39:03 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Hi there:

Difference between composite and RGB is pretty much obvious. But other
 video formats always confuses me. 
Anybody out there let me know what exactly distinguishes each of these
 Video Formats:
 1) VHS format
 2) S-VHS format
 3) YUV Video
 4) Y/C Video
 5) S-Video

I will summarize if there is interest. Thanks in advance.

Subu
subu@sensors.njit.edu
From: gruen@cogsci.ucsd.EDU (Dan Gruen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: 20 Second Videotapes?
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:59:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: cogsci.1659
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego


Does anybody know of sources for short (20 seconds to 1 minute) blank
videotapes?  Preferably VHS, but Beta would work too (as we have equipment
for both formats).  This is for a project we are currently organizing in
which people will need to make short video snippets to leave for each
other.  We know about the computer based alternatives, like quicktime
movies, but for various reasons have chosen to use videotape for this
stage of things.

Thanks,
Dan Gruen      gruen@cogsci.ucsd.edu
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From: pcl@oxford.ac.uk (Paul Leyland)
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.crypt,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Algorithm for VCR+ codes?
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:18:39 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford, OX2
	6NN
In-reply-to: curt@kcwc.com's message of 25 Sep 92 03:38:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.033831.3249@kcwc.com> curt@kcwc.com writes:

   In sci.crypt, jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:
   >Is the algorithm for VCR+ codes known?  Can someone point me to it if
   >it's available?

   Check out "Decoding a VCR Controller Code" by Ken Shirriff, Curt Welch,
   and Andrew Kinsman. Pg 227. CRYPTOLOGIA, Volume XVI Number 3, July 1992.

   Published by Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute IN 47803
   812-877-1511

   The article describes an algorithm that seems to correctly decode VCR Plus+
   codes that are 1 to 6 digits in length.

Thank you for the reference.  The obvious next question is has anyone
implemented it and made the source available for anon-ftp or the like?

Paul
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From: mitch@banana.fedex.com (mitch wood)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Sony TR51
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:48:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Federal Express Corp.

I just bought a Sony TR-51 palm-corder. I was just wondering if there
were any known problems with the unit.. or how owners liked them. 
So far I really like it. I have a F-70 too, and the TR51 seems to have
all the features of it plus a few of its own.

Any information is greatly appreciated.

Mitch

mitch@banana.dis.fedex.com
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