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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: fast modems
Keywords: Fast? Really?
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:15:23 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <81HNPB2w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl) writes:
>That BBS uses a ZyXEL modem ( Sysop deal, so I should mention it ) which 
>is capable of 14,400 uncompressed. It will literally scream along at 
>56000 bits per second on uncompressed files, and is capable of going 
>faster ( it has a couple of higher speeds talking to another ZyXEL ).
>
>On the horizon I see glimpses of modems which are capable of 28,000bps    
>*uncompressed*! I hesitate to think what they'll be capable of doing when 
>compression kicks in......
>

Well, you said above that it will do 56,000bps uncompressed, so I guess the
horizon isn't too far away. :^)

From what I understand, before modems get significantly faster, we're going
to need fiber optic lines.

>Question time...
>
>1: What defines a 'fast modem'

Your needs.  Some people may think 1200bps is fast enough for them.  I have
a Supra V.32bis modem here and now I think it's too fast since my only other
local 14.4kbps connection went bye-bye recently.

>2: Will the new Atari machines ( Falcon et al ) be able to keep up with 
>   these sort of speeds?

The "old" Atari machines, like the MegaSTE and TT, already support astronomical
speeds on their second through fourth modem ports.  STalker is the only term
program I'm aware of that supports those faster speeds.  (Maybe Rufus too,
or Connect?)

>3: How long before 2400bps modems are relics of history?

Are 300bps modems relics of history yet?

I don't know, some people still use MS-DOS, so I guess 2400bps will still be
around for a while. :^)

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From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Dungeon Master
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 22:33:00 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug18.184156.27284@mits.mdata.fi>

Tim Wright asked some questions about Dungeon Master...

According to FTL, the person carrying the rabbit's foot will be
"luckier in some circumstances"...    as far as I've observed, it's
real purpose in life is to take up a valuable slot in your backpack,
and to be used to hold floorswitches down.

The jewelery is tough to pin down.. a few are obvious in their effects.
The Moonstone adds 3 mana to the Champion who wears it.
The Illumulet gives a low level of illumination in the Dungeon at all times.
The Pendant Feral adds one to a Champion's Wizard level.
The umm..  gak.. it's either the Ekhard Cross or the Jewel Symal..
makes the Champion regenerate health points quicker...
 
Most of them don't have enough effect to make any real difference though.

(Oh.. and the Choker maked the Champion use food more slowly)

The only advantage to wearing the Armor of Darc and Lyte is better
protection, IF your Champions are strong enough to carry it.  My ladies
were never that strong, and so left it behind, preferring to rely on
quick reflexes rather than thick armor.

In my experience, the only time a weapon really affected a particular
monster more was the Vorpal Sword, which was the only weapon which could
hit a "non-material" being..  the damage from all weapons seemed to be
based on a random roll, modified by the maximum damage of the weapon.
 
Here's a "fun FYI".. did you ever put a coin in your Champion's
"action hand" and click on it like it was a weapon..?
 
Rasmus Petau asked about a locked door on Level 15 (actually, the way FTL
itself numbers the Levels, the Hall of Champions is Level 1, so there
are only 14 Levels..  so I'm assuming the question is about the
Dragon's lair..?)
 
The only locked door I know about on the Dragon's level is the one
which leads to the Power Gem... which you HAVE to get in order to
complete the game.  The other door on the level is opened by inserting
a coin in the slot next to it, and leads to an altar of resurrection
(just in case any of your Champions gets toasted by the Dragon).

(The key to the door in front of the Power Gem is hidden under one
of the piles of ashes on the floor, by the way...)

You're right, Tim.. DM *is* a classic...!

BobR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sjg@dogmatix.ph.kcl.ac.uk (Simon Gornall)
Subject: Re: uucico and Hermes
Organization: King's College London.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:05:55 GMT
X-Posted-From: dogmatix.ph.kcl.ac.uk
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Does anyone have a list of uucp sites that will let me call them. I'm trying to set up uucp at home using MiNT as a multi-user system, with uucp to a local unix node. Problem is I need to make sure it's working my end. I'm in London, and I'd prefer a local uucp node, but anywhere ok really.

Simon (looking forward to usenet news and email at home )

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Subject: Re: Forbes Article
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:43:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.172515.10362@pellns.alleg.edu>, heidelj@alleg.edu (Jason Heideloff) writes:
>Can anyone summarize what the Forbes article said?  This is the first I  
>have heard of "The Forbes Article"....
>
>Thanks,
>Jason Heideloff
>heidelj@alleg.edu

Get a copy of STR830 or it could be STR831/2, its all in there, plus more to
come, as well as in Computer Shoper..

Main part was 'Cheap Did Not Sell' and they don't have to money to market the
Falcon...

Roger...................               sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
From: geoffc@zebedeeUUCP (Geoffrey Coan)
Subject: uucico 3.42
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:48:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Geoffrey Coan (disorganisation)
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

Thanks for the new version of uucico that was posted recently, it works
fine with Mercury 1.18.  I have tried upgrading to hermes but every time I
request it from atari.archive it doesn't arrive - it's in the telecomm index
OK though and I can get other stuff OK.

My main question is though, what's cicostat.prg for ???   I've setup all
the environment variables it needed but it only appeared to move
uucico.log to uucico.bak.  What else does it do ?

PS: which is faster at 2400baud MNP4, e-protocol or g-protocol ?  I normally
    use g but when I tried e the cps rate looked to be slightly higher.

Cheers

Geoffrey
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well all right then, if you say so ...   ..!uunet!ibmpcug!jshark!zebedee!geoffc
From: bkr@drdhh.hanse.de (Bjoern Kriews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Major TERMCAP question!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:27:46 GMT
Organization: Digital Island

woocm@essex.ac.uk (Chris Wood) writes:
>	I know that this all has something to do with TERMCAP, a little
>shell cariable that has lots of funny characters in it. But what the
>hell is termcap exactly. I been using my Sun workstation for a while
>not particularly caring about it. Sorry but now I would like to know
>what its all about. Where can I read about it. 

Don't know if this EMACS uses TERMCAP anyway.
Try 3.11, mine didn't work but might have been damaged.

sun:
$ man 5 termcap

Regards, Bjoern
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From: ca806@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roger M. Selby)
Subject: Forbes article
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:23:25 GMT


In which issue is the Atari corp article?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MT-QWK 1.08D - Anyone got it?
From: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 05:32:12 GMT
Reply-To: shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

I posted a message a while back, but I don't think anyone replied...

Has anyone got a copy of the offline reader,
   MicroTalk version 1.08D ???

It's a QWK packet offline reader for reading BBS messages
 offline, written by Wolfgang Zweygart.

Surely someone here must have or know of a place to get a copy?

 Thanks,
    Craig.
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From: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Marsupilami's private UUCP site - Palumbien, Germany.
Subject: Re: emacs 18.57 and termcaps....
Reply-To: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 16:54:36 MET

In <1992Aug8.201836.5560@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, John Bunch writes:
> Howdy,
> 
> I am running Mint 0.95 and tcsh 6.0.1 (I think) and I just grabbed
> mntemacb.zoo from atari.archive.  But when I try to run emacs, it says
> term st52 not powerful enough to use emacs cursor positioning.  But
> the termcap entry is the one I got from the readme file for emacs.
> Any clues on how to get it to work??
Once I had the same problem. The solution is quite simple, but not
too easy to find out: 
Edit your /etc/termcap file with an editor (akpEmacs or elvis or ...)
that does *not* end the lines with <CRLF>, but only with single <LF>s.
If you take the termcap file from the archive, it should work if you
do not edit anything at all. Then you can go and edit it with Emacs
itself :-)

Regards, Markus.

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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca ( John Henders )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Subject: Re: uucico 3.42
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 08:47:06 -0700

geoffc@zebedeeUUCP (Geoffrey Coan) writes:

>My main question is though, what's cicostat.prg for ???   I've setup all
>the environment variables it needed but it only appeared to move
>uucico.log to uucico.bak.  What else does it do ?

	From what I've figured out, it mails a copy of your uucico stats
to cicostat, which you create in your mail alias file. If you haven't
got hermes, I don't think Mercury supported alias's.

>PS: which is faster at 2400baud MNP4, e-protocol or g-protocol ?  I normally
>    use g but when I tried e the cps rate looked to be slightly higher.

	The e protocal does no error checking, so if MNP4 is error correction,
use it, as it should speed things up.


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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca ( John Henders )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: tp
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Subject: Re: how to install nn?
	<1992Aug13.053705.5193@r-node.gts.org>
	<H.mjY3I7An&Dc@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>
	<1992Aug18.031954.14502@zooid.guild.org>
	<H.QfAo0u&vFPQ@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> <a6981673@skid.north.de>
		<H.UjJFyVrP2F2@jonh.wimsey.bc
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 08:57:42 -0700

jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders) writes:

>In <H.UjJFyVrP2F2@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>, John Henders writes:

	Here's me following up my own article again. I got nn to work, and post. 
This is posted from nn, so if you're reading it, I guess it all works.
	For my system, because I had $USR defined as a drive, rather than a file, 
I had to go into the various nn* programs and use a hex editor to change
sme strings. In many places, there are strings like ${USR}lib\something
or ${NEWS}something\something else. By sheer good luck, there were 2 00
bytes after these strings, so I was able to add a backslash between the 
variable and the rest of the string and still have a null terminating byte.
	This is important for running with Hermes, where variables leave off
the trailing backslash, as is usual with most environment variables. 
	The one program that gave me trouble was buildact, which did not
have 2 00's, but fortunately, I was able to run it through a disassembler,
change the string, and reassemble it.( no one said this stuff was easy ;-)
	I will make my patched version available if there's enough demand. 


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From: dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Latest version of digitized sound utilities on atari.archive
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:59:30 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

The file atari/new/digistuf.arc contains the latest versions of QD
Play, Digital Keyclick, Beep, Digivec, and other digitized sound
utilities.  The main new feature is that they all support stereo sounds
and the DMA sound capabilities of the STe, TT, and Falcon.  Be the
first on your block with a stereo keyclick!  (What could be better?)

Dave Baggett
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From: hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: RAM expansion on the Falcon
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:13:57 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

It was very interesting to read Sam T's interview on DELPHI about the new
Falcon. I have a remark however regarding RAM expansion. He said that
expanding the RAM on the Falcon will be via an 'Atari RAM board'. This sounds
very similar (at least in concept) to RAM expansion on the TT. The Atari
TT RAM expansion board has two problems as I far as I can make out, 1) it's
*very* expensive, 2) it's also very difficult to get hold of. Instead most
people I believe (including myself) opt for the German 3rd party board. This 
too has it's problems though, it's expensive (not as expensive as the Atari 
one), about 200 pounds (no ram chips) and it doesn't always necessarily work
dependening on the TT motherboard, for example, I can never have the
TT cache on because of timing problems (bombs out - yes they are suppose
to be replacing the board but I've been waining almost 3 months already).

The SIMM slots on the STE are an ideal solution, RAM is easy to install 
and cheap, just look at the number of adverts for STE upgrades in British
mags to realise how successful there are. Now why didn't they do the same 
for the Falcon!? I hope RAM upgrades on the Falcon won't be expensive 
as it is for the TT.

Otherwise I think the Falcon sounds like a great machine. I'd be interested
to hear if anyone knows how it rates speed wise against the TT.

Herb
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From: ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Canada (or lack thereof)
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:57:30 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <H.218bU_Q2jTc@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
> 	Who knows, maybe you'll even see more Atari dealers in their 
> respective territories. At one time, Geoff Earle had more Atari 
> dealers in Toronto than the entire US east coast, including NYC.

This might have been true at one time, there used to be lots of dealers
in Toronto. But being in Toronto myself, I can assure you there are very
few left. There were a few stores that were Atari-only (probably a rarity
in the US!) but now they sell PC's and have a handful of Atari products
in the back corner somewhere. It's pretty grim now. I mail-order everything
now, usually from Toad Computers, which is very good. Their catalog is
amazing, for anyone who hasn't seen it, it's like 50-60 pages of everything
in the world for Ataris, hardware and software.

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"Things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler."   - Albert Einstein

ken@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ken ]  Ken Newman
From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: New upload to archive
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:42:07 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD

Well people completely forget about Shift_II that I uploaded a few
days ago, 'coz there's already Shift 3 out.

It's now in atari/new as 'shift3.lzh'.

It's still monochrome but now with sound 100 new levels and apparently
a few other goodies. (I haven't played it so far).

Nat!
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Atari
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:32:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.224420.14988@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>
>In a previous article, dac@ukc.ac.uk (D.A.Clear) says:
>
>>Myself, I am very impressed with the specs/price ratio so far.  I do
>>feel a little let down by the 16MHz clock speed.  I will pay for 32MHz
>>and fast memory in the Falcon.  I'm sorry to say I will not be buying
>>a 16MHz Falcon.
>
>I don't think people realize how fast a Motorola 16 MHz CPU is
>compared to an Intel 20 Mhz CPU.  It is pretty fast!

True, but a 16 Mhz Falcon '030 is nowhere near as fast as a 32 Mhz Falcon '030!

>Also, the 32 MHz DSP should speed things up.

Only in applications written to utilize it. It's not like a Blitter!


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From: chang@assb01
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: TDD or TYY for the ST?
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:04:21 GMT
Reply-To: @adelphi-msc.army.mil:chang@assb01


        Does anyone know if there is a TDD or TYY (teletype for talking
to the deaf by phone), or better yet is anyone familiar with what protocol
it uses to communicate with, perhaps I can just use a terminal program.

        Fo
From: willing@pantheon.icsl.ucla.edu (Scott Willingham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Elvis 1.5 (esp. for MiNT) - How would you like it?
Keywords: vi
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:35:21 GMT
Organization: University of California at Los Angeles, EE Dept.

In article <9816@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>alf@skid.north.de (Alf Hoheisel) writes:
>
>>warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:
>
>>What are you doing there? This versions of Elvis have been ported a long
>>time ago. The newest version I know of is 1.6 (27 April 1992). I'm working
>>with this version since 17 May 1992.
>
>Strange, I've never heard of Elvis 1.6, and archie only mentions a jelvis
>(localised Japanese) 1.6 elvis.  Not that it matters - it only took 10
>minutes to port anyway.

Elvis 1.5 is the latest official release version.  Version 1.6 is still
in beta release and shouldn't be widely distributed to people who don't
wish to deal with source code and report bugs.  I've been using 1.6 since
about May and it does have various little bugs.  It is very easy to port
to MiNT, since MiNT's libraries are so BSD-like (however, there are always
little things that need fixing here and there).

Scott Willingham // willing@icsl.ucla.edu
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From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: High Speed Modems
Date: 16 Aug 1992 19:32:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug13.152028.18112@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>Computability has them for $209.  They also have golden image mice (for PC)
>for $17, hmmm.

	Are you sure that that is a supraFAX modem V.32_bis_?  that sounds like
the price of the 9600bps V.32 (no bis, also,not 14.4kbps).  

	Could you double check that?

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>NOTE: I'm not okes, but you can reply to him if you want.

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From: lynbech@daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Help: broken condensator
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:02:45 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

During a RAM upgarde, I have accidentally broken one of the condensators, and I would very much like know if anybody can supply with the correct type so I can replace it.

It is a glass-condensator with the number C10 on my C070789-001 REV.D
motherboard. It has apparently no colour-coding, but the tips are orange and
the middle of the glass coating is transparent while the condensator itself is
black (square) with silver connections on the ends.

Does anybody have any information on this? Could I perhaps grab one of the
condensators from the blitter-chip (which I don't have anyway)?



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli)
Subject: Need good dump utility
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:57:36 GMT

  Hi there.  I got so much help from my fellow Atarians in my searches for
MIDI file specs and PD Minesweeper games, that I had to come back with
another query!  THis time I need some sort of a dump utility.  That is,
something that will let me view binary files as groupings of hex digits. 
I obviously can't use a text editor because trying to look at binary files 
with that puts a jumble of half fujis and quarter "Bob"s on my screen.  SO,
if anyone can tell me what a good PD dump utility is, I would be very appre-
ciative.  Thanks.

BTW, I need this so I can look at actual standard MIDI files and take them
apart as sort of a black box thing.  As much as I read, I can't seem to get
a handle on this stuff.
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