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From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ACCIES AND RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:52:06 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <C1BzCn.Bn3@eis.calstate.edu>, sgilmou@eis.calstate.edu (Stephen Gilmour) writes:
> cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>> 
>> 	Our learned colleague is referring to the impending court case in
>> which Ian Durrant of Rangers (not Huns....) will attempt to sue Neil Simpson 
>> and Eberdeen for a tackle in October 1988 which nearly ruined his career. 
>> Durrant's career was saved only after 3 operations and it was only towards
>> the end of last season that he displayed something like his previous form 
>> and perhaps it wont be until the end of this season before an assessment can 
>> be made concerning his complete recovery.  Durrant is sueing for 1M quid 
>> and surprisingly some former Eberdeen players will act as witnesses on his
>> behalf as well as SAlly, John Brown and Andy Roxburgh.   
>> 
> Simpson should have been suspended sine die for this offense at the
> time, and he was not even ordered off.  The work "tackle" does not
> begin to describe what this thug did to young Durrant, and I wish
> him the best of luck in getting his compensation.

Was durrant paid while he was injured?

i would have thought so

This is NOT a good idea, if durrant wins then everyone will be suing everyone
else for bad tackles which is ridiculous
> 
> Stephen

ps.
can Bobby Barr sue the huns for his broken leg at ibrox

he had a part time painting and decorating job and because he couldn't walk
properly, his entire work was ruined. It's fair to say he's suffered more than
bar smasher durrant, at least durrant is playing and earning a load of dosh
or the various niteclubs smashed up by hun players sue Rangers?


--john--
From: stevensm@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Mik Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Good week for Liverpool
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:03:13 GMT
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In article <16B5ED46E.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za>, 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
|> This weekend is a good week for Liverpool as they won't be playing at all.
|> Leeds their scheduled oponents are playing in an FA cup against Arsenal.
|> They are probably celebrating already at Anfailed.
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Of course all Liverpool fans know that this is a complete lie.

Liverpool played a full top level game this week along with 
the boys across the park.  Both teams went over the water
to Ireland.

Liverpool won 2 : 0  against Derry Girls Hockey XI

and Everton clawed a 3 goal recovery win, 3  :  2
against Irelands Selected Cubs XI.

Looks like the Liverpool teams are on a roll.


mik
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From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: FANZines
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:48:27 GMT

In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930121092937.384@psy4.psy.glasgow.ac.uk>, RONNIE@psy.glasgow.ac.uk ("RONNIE THOMPSON" ) writes:
> Yes.I read Follow Follow which is a Rangers fanzine.The editors go to
> great lengths to emphasise they in no way represent the views of
> Rangers officially as some of its' contents can be,shall we say
> ,strongly opinionated.But apart from that it is a good quality 'zine
> which sells well on home matchdays and later on in selected
> newsagents in Glasgow and beyond.
> It covers match reports and fans can phone a hotline to register
> their views on a two minute call and some get their opinions printed
> in the next edition.

I've only seen this noble publication once, but from what I hear it is the
mildest of the publications that go under the heading "Ranger's Fanzines".
From what I saw, the term "quality 'zine" could only have referred to the
quality of the paper that was used to print it.  Humour was definitely not a
strong point.  Two articles were absolutely deplorable and offensive.
Firstly we had the justification of the first public and deliberate signing of
a Catholic player since before the infamous Bill Struth took control of
Scotland's greatest sporting institution.  The editorial said that since the
club employed Catholics as cleaners and restaurant staff, they could see no
reason why signing Mojo would affect the Protestant and Unionist traditions of
the club. Nice one.
The second article accused Paul Elliot of stirring up racial hatred at an Old
Firm game.  The author of the article had seen Elliot gesturing to a section of
the crowd.  His interpretation of this was that the player was pointing out that
he was the same colour as Mark Walters,an outragious act in the opinion of the
writer. One must assume here that neither player had received any racial abuse
from any section of the crowd (unlikely). The article actually began with that
classic, confessorial line "Some of my best friends are coloured...". Nuff
said.
Since this was the only time that I have seen this publication, I can only hope
that it is now a bit more worthy of the name "FANzine".  It would not be right
of me to condemn "Follow, Follow" as bigoted and sectarian having only read one
issue.

Chris
aka Sean Celticandfootballfansagainstbigotry
From: PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Man Utd for the Premier League Title
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:45:42 -0600
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      Well, nobody in Manchester United is saying, at least in public, that
their team WILL win the league title; they are just saying that they are
playing good football and like their chances for the league title.
      But this is very different than saying that they will win the title.  You
never know what can happen in the future.  Or do you have any special
predicting talents that nobody else possesses?
      There are a lot of games left pal; you can never know what can happen.
Unless of course, you have these predicting talents.
      United "may" win the title, but saying "will" win the title is extremely
optimistic and very premature.
      But crazy people like you can say these things anyway.
                                                                   Panos
P.S. I hope at least you hate Everton as well.
From: roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: USSF F@#$ing IDIOTS!!
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:20:41 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC

In article <1993Jan21.213503.2789@research.nj.nec.com> tim@research.nj.nec.com (Tim Van Der Avoird) writes:
>In article <18082@umd5.umd.edu> jrobert@lab7.smcm.edu (Jess Roberts) writes:

>>of the match.  Hey guys, even the Europeans, Asians, South Americans, Australians, and probably the Danes care more about the Super Bowl

>No, Europeans don't give a F@#$ about the Super Bowl! Stupid game
>anyway, American football. Why do they stop the game every five
>seconds?

Because it is a different game from soccer. But I don't want to talk
about this.

Some estimates say that about 700 million people see the SuperBowl.
Someone outside US *must* be interested.

Now, don't ask me where those estimates come from. Probably from the same
sources that say that about 2 billion people see the World Cup final.

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From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu (Andy Lipscomb)
Subject: Re: EVERTON
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:08:57 GMT
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In <1993Jan28.160642.6550@alf.uib.no> s009@brems.ii.uib.no writes:
> In article <1993Jan27.161506.9886@ucl.ac.uk>, bigmac@nmr.ion.bpmf.ac.uk (David MacManus) writes:
> |> >P.S. Everton has been in the Premier League (First Division) longer than any other
> |> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> |> English soccer club, and plan to stay there.
> |> >-------------------------------------------
> |> 
> |> 	sorry, Arsenal have been in the First (Premier League) since football
> |> 	resumed after the end of the First World War (wait for comments on how
> |> 	they bribed their way to be "promoted").
> |> 	I don't think that Everton are even the second longest survivors but I
> |> 	am sure other netters will know. 

Guys:
It seems to me the current sides share the longest run in the Premier
League--one year ;)
But Everton has the most TOTAL years in the top division, while Arsenal's
CONSECUTIVE run is longest.  Anyone disputing that?

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From: roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Hot topic: Lazio in Europe
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:06:20 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC

No European Cups (they were disqualified in 1974-75), no Cup Winners' Cups.

Fairs' Cups: 
   1970-71   Lazio-Arsenal 2-2 0-2

Uefa Cup:
   1973-74   Lazio out in the second round (Ipswich-Lazio 4-0, 2-4).
	         Lazio disqualified for one year.

   1975-76   Chernomoretz? Odessa - Lazio 1-0 0-3
	     Lazio - Barcelona 0-3(*) 0-4
	      (*) For political reasons, Lazio refused to face
		  Barcelona in Italy, and was defeated by default.
   
   1977-78   Boavista Porto - Lazio 1-0 0-5
	     Lazio - Lens  2-0 0-6 (aet, I believe)
	      
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From: mortene@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Eriksen)
Subject: Re: EVERTON
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:20:24 GMT

In article <C1GpuE.Ix6@cs.dal.ca>, wadhwa@cs.dal.ca writes:
 > I am a huge Everton fan, but I have lost touch with English soccer for two years.
 > Could any one post the current Everton lineup. Thanks.
 > 
 > 
 > P.S. Everton has been in the Premier League (First Division) longer than any other
 > English soccer club, and plan to stay there.

What?!?! Can't be correct, Arsenal has played Premier League/First Division every
f*cking year since 1919.

 >     
 >      Everton for 1993-1994 League championship and F.A. Cup

Yeah, sure.


Morten
From: mingos@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Is there any League matches in Sunderland or near in week 7
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:43:16 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1993Jan20.074930.2066@nntp.hut.fi>, m36150p@kaira.hut.fi (Janne Veikko Petteri Kallunki) writes:
> My brother will be in Sunderland from February 15th (Monday) to
> February 19th (Friday) so he wanted to know is there any matches
> in Sunderland or perhaps in Newcastle.
> 
> ----
> Janne 'Jake' Kallunki m36150p@kaira.hut.fi jkallunk@otax.hut.fi
> p. home 4553831, work 1545182
> "I feel certainly better than James Brown"
> 	-Was (Not Was)
From: visconm@curie.CS.ORST.EDU (Visconti Marcello Alfredo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Havelange and the World Cup
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:24:01 GMT
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From Soccer International January issue: Joao Havelange says JAPAN in
2002 and SOUTH AFRICA in 2006 are front-runners (in his view) to host 
the next two WCs.

He also said that a new rule to break ties after 90 minutes will be
tried in Australia Youth WC '93: if teams are tied after 90 minutes
in a knock-out phase, there will be a 30 minute SUDDEN DEATH extra
time period.  If they remain tied, they'll go to a penalty shootout.

That's all.

Marcello.

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From: efsv02@castle.ed.ac.uk (M J Brewer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Tony Daley - where's he gone?
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:32:51 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Edinburgh University

A good question, in my book....

Haven't heard about him in ages - news anyone?

Cheers,

Mark Brewer
Aberdeen
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From: arc@Ingres.COM (Andy Cowling)
Subject: Re: Sheffield United
In-reply-to: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk's message of 27 Jan 93 10:03:32 GMT
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:43:38 GMT

>> On 27 Jan 93 10:03:32 GMT, bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro) said:

  Bruce> Oh yes? Just like you were going to stuff Brighton at Old Trafford, but in
  Bruce> the end just managed to scrape a lucky 1-0 victory.

  Bruce> Dontcha just hate armchair Man Utd supporters? Probably never been to Old
  Bruce> Trafford.

Now, now Bruce - just 'cos we 'scraped past' Spurs 4-1 no need to get
nasty    :-)
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From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ACCIES AND RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:38:18 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1993Jan21.174858.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clgs17@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> Hamilton Accies put Satan's 11 out of the cup in January 1987, I'm so glad for
> two reasons:
> 
> 1.   I hate bigotry and 'The Gers' epitomize this sad psychological phenomenon. 
> (I have no allegiance to Celtic and feel that they too suffer from bigotry but
> in a more diffuse way: I think Celtic fans respond to, rather than initiate,
> religious prejudice. My statements here are based on having watched Accies play
> both of the Old Firm and observing both sets of supporters. I feel that Celtic
> supporters have a greater intrinsic interest in football, Rangers fans call any
> opposition 'dirty Fenian bastards' ie a senseless, spontaneous outburst of
> acidic hatred. Unless provoked, Celtic fans get on with the football making
> little or no conjecture as to the denomination of the opposing support. I know
> this is a sweeping generalisation, but it is my overall personal experience.)
>  
> 2.   I support Accies - tribalism is very much alive. In fact, the Rangers
> Celtic rivalry is fundamentally tribal, religion is only the focus, after all,
> how many football supporters have sincere religious beliefs.
> 
> Question: Are specific religious beliefs/creeds justifiable in any case?
> 
> 
> Some comments about the game:
>      
> 1.   Rangers were in our penalty box for most of the game.
> 2.   McKellar, Fulton and Collins were immense.
> 3.   We went up the park twice, missed one sitter and scored the other.
>      It should have been 2 nil !!!!
> 4.   The whole affair was surreal.
> 5.   Ibrox is a cauldron of hatred - Scotland should never play there.


are you not a wee bit out of date here?

> 
> Question: What was going through Terry Butchers head when he recklessly
> challenged Bobby Bar, broke his leg and finished his career? I heard
> the crack from the stand. Accies cannot afford sophisticated medical
> treatment.


maybe Bar should follow durrant's example, and sue the huns...
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From: rip@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Richard Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Mo Johnston (and dutch players in Scotland
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:45:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Mo Johnston (Thistle reject :-) ) is at Everton still and currently has
a mysteriously smashed face from some personal incident. Anybody- What happened?

There are loads of Dutch players here. No doubt somebody will provide details.

The main reason for them being here is that they have a good grasp of basic
techniques and skills that we Brits lack.

Why they come here. a) Scottish football isn't that bad really.
		    b) I'll ask my Dutch flatmate sometime.

I think Huistra has not played for Holland but has attracted international team
interest since joining Rangers.
From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Sheffield United
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:03:32 GMT
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In article <1993Jan26.174353.26593@westminster.ac.uk> nydec@westminster.ac.uk (Charles Heath) writes:
>I would just like to leave this little note to point out that Sheffield
>United are going to get stuffed when we play them in the fifth round
>of the F.A.Cup. 

Oh yes? Just like you were going to stuff Brighton at Old Trafford, but in
the end just managed to scrape a lucky 1-0 victory.

Dontcha just hate armchair Man Utd supporters? Probably never been to Old
Trafford.

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From: penglish@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Paul English)
Subject: Re: #############  UK fans, PLEASE GO!  ##
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:40:17 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.002216.28530@newsgate.sps.mot.com> altizer@chdasic.sps.mot.com writes:
>In article 1416@dsbc.icl.co.uk, Dave Parry <dvp@dsbc.icl.co.uk> () writes:
>>No, I suggest you go and form your own group -
>>rec.sport.lets.bore.the.arse.off.people.talking.about.Albanian.
>>second.division.results.
>>
>>Football (not soccer!!!) is a game of passion and it incites passion
>               ^^^^^^
>
>Oh come on Dave, you Brits coined the term "soccer" (nee Association 
>Football) in the 19th century to distinguish the game from the equally
>popular Rugby League Football.  On the whole I agree with your sentiment,
>and would gladly share a brew with you to discuss whatever-you-want-to-
>call-it.
>

My understanding is the fans of Association Football were termed "soccers"
late in the 19th century.  To my knowledge the game has rarely if ever
being called "soccer" in Britain, but the name is used widely in those parts
of the world where it is not the major football code, and virtually nowhere
else (it is used here in Australia for instance).

Rugby League Football could not have been equally popular in the 19th
century, since it only started early this century, and is still only a
major code in the north of England.  Rugby Union had a sizeable following,
and this may be what you are referring to, but in England Rugby Union is
"rugby" and Association Football "football" (NOT soccer).


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From: roberto@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Serie B! Serie B!
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:43:32 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC

In article <1993Jan14.151401.25497@ulrik.uio.no> (Jacopo Andreose) writes:

>A.C. Milan was relegated twice. Nowdays this is probably the only thought
>that hinders Inter and Juventus fans from committing suicide.   

I am a Juventus fan and have a different thought.  It is called 22.
It is absolutely not a pity that Inter fans can't say the same thing.

So, please, don't use Inter and Juventus in the same derogatory sentence!

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From: gnaa38@udcf.gla.ac.uk (Paul Porcelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Gazza burps?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 04:04:09 -0600
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Can someone tell me the story of what Gazza did this week to offend
someone. Also, was he dropped last weekend or was he injured.
Thanks,
Paul Porcelli
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