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From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: //Theory Query (FollowUP)
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 12:38:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.192220.158@news.uwyo.edu>, hirschfb@news.uwyo.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Aug19.183344.971@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, aaron@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Scott Aaron) writes:
|> > In article <1992Aug16.210801.124@news.uwyo.edu>, hirschfb@news.uwyo.edu writes:
|> >>I am also wondering if someone could post some info on how to change chords
|> >>between two songs of differing keys. Anything that can be posted will be
|> >>thanked appropriately.
|> > 
|> > Say song #1 is in the key of C and #2 is in D and you want to play both
|> > songs in the key of #2.  Since D is one step (2 frets) above C, play all
|> > chords in #1 two frets higher (barre form is easiest, or think about what
|> > each chord is two frets higher).  The relationship between two keys is the
|> > same as the relationship between the root notes.  Is this what you meant by
|> > your question?
|> > 
|> >   -- Scott @Brandeis
|> 
|> Hmm, well this is transposing..but its not fully what I had in mind.
|> Considering I can usually transpose whatever..what I'm really looking for is a
|> way to change from song to song while playing. Say, I'm playing a song in C or
|> whatever, and my next song is in F, what progression of chords would be needed
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


	I'm not sure there is a progression of chords, but you can get there in
any number of ways. You need to find one that sounds good to you.  

	Keep in mind that the 5th chord in any key played as a 4 part seventh
resolves to the root. i.e. play a C#7 and then switch to an F. You'll hear the
resolution. C#7 prepares your ears for an F, and actuall leaves you 
dissappointed if the F doesn't come. (This technique is also used) 

	So I guess one way to get from a C progression to an F progression is 
to somehow get to a C#7.






|> to change smoothly to the next key, without stopping play. I would really like
|> the theory of this, so I can apply it to any key change, but whatever you might
|> have will help. Thanks very much.
|> 
|> hirschfb@corral.uwyo.edu
|> 

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
"If you got to it and didn't do it, may you never get to it, and do it again"


Frank V. Ricciardi

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From: billw@ace.mentorg.com (Bill Wright)
Subject: What do you think of Prince?
Originator: billw@ace
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:34:59 GMT
Reply-To: billw@sjc.mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


I was just listening to "Strollin'" off of his latest album _Diamonds and
Pearls_ and thought it had some really neat jazzy guitar work.  I also
think his solo on "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Name" (from an
earlier album) is really outstanding.  My impression is that he isn't
considered very highly by the guitar playing community, but I don't really
know why.  What are other's opinions about him?  While there is a lot of
his material that I don't enjoy very much, each album seems to have a couple
of real gems.  He seems to be a very diverse, talented musician and song
writer.  Let's hear what you think.

Of course, I can't post without the obligatory request for tabulature.
Anyone have any or know of any existing Prince tabulature?

Bill
-- 
             Bill Wright / bill_wright@mentorg.com

                  "When in doubt, run it out!"
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From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Steve Morse, Steve Vai, Satriani, Robert Johnson
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:09:58 GMT
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <keWe2PC00WBL43K3dj@andrew.cmu.edu>, bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Bill Thomas) writes:
|>It seems like Eric Johnson would also go on this list. Would you say
|>he's somewhere between Satriani (though a better songwriter) and Morse?
|>Of all the new breed of guitar heroes, E. Johnson seems the most
|>impressive.

yes i personally would.  in fact when I answered the original poster
i thought about mentioning Mr. Johnson as part of the Steve Morse blurb
because i remember him saying in a interview a few years back that his
favorite guitarist was Eric Johnson.  But i felt if i got into this then
i'd have to pick my brains, wouldn't take long(flames expected), to come up 
with other current groundbreaking/amazing guitarists and I'm not that well
up on this. (Allan Holdsworth = amazing)

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Maurice LaBiche (Mo.L.)             labiche@bnr.ca
Bell Northern Research              
Richardson, Texas                   i'm really in Texas, USA not Canada

No opinions herein expressed have anything to do with the opinions 
of Bell Northern Research or Northern Telecom or CIA or NSA ...
These statements are mine and mine alone, well i guess my wife 
agrees with some of them?
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From: sarnold@andy.bgsu.edu (G. Steve Arnold)
Subject: Re: Steve Vai
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:25:20 GMT

mwelie@cs.vu.nl (Welie van M) writes:
> Does anybody know what Steve Vai is doing currently. In GFTPM I read

	Hopefully getting a soul to go with his technical perfection.

> new album and tour. Does this mean that we can expect a new Steve Vai
> album soon ? 

	I hope not.


-- 
   The only difference between a Communist        G. Steve Arnold
   and a Socialist is that the Socialist will     Dept. Math and Stats.
   only confiscate the resources that are         BGSU
   profitable.                                    sarnold@andy.bgsu.edu
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From: dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller)
Subject: What do you think of the Fender Starcaster?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:35:21 GMT

No, that's not a typo. There was such a thing as a Fender Starcaster
in the late 60's to early 70's. It was somewhat in the style of the
Gibson 335 hollowbody, but with an offset-waist body and weirdo 6-a-side
headstock. There's one in town that my friend is considering buying.

What I want to know is simple: what do you think of this guitar? Anyone
know anything about it? Good, bad, indifferent? 

Post or mail, your decision.

     :=:=> Derek K. Miller       dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca
From: matz@drutx.ATT.COM (MatzAD)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: U2's Song: In God's Country
Keywords: U2's Song: In God's Country
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:34:36 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO


I would love to learn 'In God's Country' from U2's 'Joshua Tree' recording.

Please send me the chords if you know them.

I very definitely appreciate any help or clues.   Thank you !



Dave Matz


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From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu(131.216.1.11) for 8/17 **
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:03:57 GMT


	Beatles
		Act Naturally t
		Something t
	John Denver
		For Baby c
		Poems, Prayers, and Promises c
		Rhymes and Reasons c
		Take Me Home, country Roads c
	Jimi Hendrix
		Red House t
	John Prine
		Sam Stone c
	Scorpions
		Always Somewhere t
	Cat Stevens
		But I Might Die Tonight cp
		Tea For The Tillerman cp


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From: reh@wam.umd.edu (Huddleston)
Subject: Re: What is a "strat" ?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:39:19 GMT

glaurent@wombat.inria.fr (Guillaume Laurent) writes:
 
> Note that, however, a Stratocaster is to guitars what a Stradivarius is to
> violins and cellos. So messing up the two wouldn't be a great mistake.
 
Not to hear some people tell it.  From the flames I've been getting from my
mistake about this, you'd think USENET was populated largely by those anal-
retentive types who can't tolerate even a tiny slip ;-).
 
>                                        Guillaume.

-- 
This posting is the result of years of American public school and television.
Scary thought, isn't it?
 
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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: 12-string tuning
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:35:00 GMT

In article <1281@pdxvme.pdx.csd.mot.com> cah@pdx.csd.mot.com (Chris Huey) > : 
> : For a bit of trivia, what was the first ROCK song to feature an electric
> : 12 string?
> 
> As for the trivia question: I'll guess "Eight Miles High" by the Byrds.
> 

How about: "A hard day's night." The story I heard was that
Rick' reps gave George Harrison their first electric
12-string to try out, and he liked it so much he used it on
the album they were about to record.

This, of course, will lead directly to dozens of articles
arguing about how the first chord is played... ;-) 


--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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From: root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account)
Subject: Ty Tabor's Sound
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:28:50 GMT

Thanks to all who posted the suggestions...I already knew about the
Strat Elites, heard they are pretty cool guitars...just that I was
thinking about buying a new guitar, and wanted to get that huge sound,
figure Ty's sound is combination of a number of factors...


Once again thanks :-)

BTW I have yet to see this band live!!!! A bit hard when you live in
Australia :-(


Adam
Unversity of Western Australia
From: ryanr@beethoven.CS.ColoState.EDU (richard ryan)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Playing with fingernails
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:25:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Colorado State University

>>>>> On 8 Aug 92 20:18:01 GMT, vucinic@apol3ppe1.cern.ch (Dejan Vucinic ) said:

Dejan> There is a lot of things that you can do with fingernails and can't 
Dejan> with a pick - and nothing that you can do with a pick and can't 
Dejan> with nails (meaning playing, not breaking or some other wise things).

Have you got a fingerstyle technique for a smooth single note tremolo?
The p-a-m-i works fine for tremolo with a bass on the bottom but
that's a different effect altogether.  When trying this with all four
fingers on the same string, the notes produced by the thumb really
sound different from the rest and stand out too much.

Also, how about a fingerstyle technique for tremolo on adjacent double
stopped strings?  Although the p-i free stroke technique and the i-m
rest stroke technique (alternately drag each finger over the two
strings) produce beautiful effects, it is not the same as as a tremolo
where both strings are picked almost simultaneously which I find is
probably a more useful effect simply because it has a sound that's
more plain.

If you have got fingerstyle techniques for these effects please post.

If you haven't, you might want to learn how to use a pick.  A lot of
classical guitarists know how (including Sharon Isbin, I believe), and
there are a lot of useful effects inherent to flat picking that are
not quite the same with finger picking.  The examples I've mentioned
here are only a few.

Richard.
From: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Buckethead
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:31:10 GMT
Reply-To: whc2993@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug17.222422.12391@wam.umd.edu>, peugh@wam.umd.edu (General Napolean) writes:
>
>  I just checked out a few issues of Guitar Player out of the library and saw a
>collum(?) by this guy refered to as "Buckethead".  Who the hell is this guy?
>It's a REALLY cool collum(again sp?).  And this guy is pretty wierd(at least it
>appears that way from his writing style and his music that's in there).
>  Is he in a band or does he have any albums out?  I wann hear what this guy 
>sounds like!

	I used to think BucketHead was Steve Vai.  The hair coming out of the
KFC bucket looks kinda like Vai's and the strange writings also fueled my
theory but several references to his up coming bands and things I don't
remember right now seemed to shatter that premise.  However Steve Vai has
recorded under assumed names before.  
						B.C.


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"The blues is a low down achein' chill"  Robert Johnson
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: 890707p@ace.acadiau.ca (GLENN G. PARSONS)
Subject: Even Flow -
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:22:40 GMT

Anyone know any thing about how this song is done?
I know its in D and Gossard is playing in open D,, but the bass riff sounds 
different than his. Also, any ideas on his chord shapes - are they straight 
bars??
Any  ideas would be greatly appreciated, as the song rocks

                                              MickJ

		  	I am the eater of worlds...
				Pennywise the clown
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: peugh@wam.umd.edu (Arthur Dent)
Subject: Re: More theory questions (groan)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:21:44 GMT


  Is it possibly to drop the root and substitute the eighth(since this is the
root one octive up)?  Is this just an inversion or a different voicing or 
something like that?
  thanks.
From: rocker@csa.bu.edu (The Long Haired One)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: REQUEST: ADA address
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:17:33 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Boston University


I want to get literature on ADA products, since I'm looking into gettin a
ADA MP-1 unit. So if someone could post it here I would appreciate it,
because I don't want to be swamped in email messages :)

-Rocker
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,comp.sys.mac.app
From: billw@ace.mentorg.com (Bill Wright)
Subject: Re: Looking for Music Notation Program
Originator: billw@ace
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:06:47 GMT
Reply-To: billw@sjc.mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics 
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 


In article <1992Aug19.191316.23781@netnews.alf.dec.com>, harry@netnews.alf.dec.com (Harry Katz) writes:
|> I am looking for a program for creating standard music
|> notation and/or tablature in PostScript format.  The
|> target machine is a Mac IIcx.  What I am looking for
|> is something in the public domain or something not
|> too expensive.  I do not need any fancy bells and
|> whistles.

Does anyone know of any program for the Mac or PC that
handles tabulature?  I think Finale can handle it to some
degree, but does it allow you to convert it from standard
notation and back to tabulature?  I realize that the
standard notation to tabulature is not a one to one mapping,
but does it produce something?

Bill
-- 
             Bill Wright / bill_wright@mentorg.com

                  "When in doubt, run it out!"
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,comp.sys.mac.app
From: harry@netnews.alf.dec.com (Harry Katz)
Subject: Looking for Music Notation Program
Organization: DEC - Customer Support Center, Alpharetta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:13:16 GMT

I am looking for a program for creating standard music
notation and/or tablature in PostScript format.  The
target machine is a Mac IIcx.  What I am looking for
is something in the public domain or something not
too expensive.  I do not need any fancy bells and
whistles.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: kent@netcom.com (Kent Crispin)
Subject: Re: TAB Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 02:31:42 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <9208101308.AA18071@bessel.umd.edu> glenn@bessel.umd.edu (D. Glenn Arthur Jr.) writes:
>*** OPINION WARNING *** 
>This ain't meant as Gospel.  What follows is my personal, though fairly
>strong, opinion.  :-P  It's also stated less gently than is usual for
>me.  Skip to the end of the really soapboxy stuff.
>
>In article <1992Aug9.054408.10323@regina.cs.uregina.ca> brownw@hercules.uregina.ca writes:
>
>b)  Tabulature _is_ music.

As I mentioned elsewhere, this is not true.  Tabulature is an indication
of how to place your fingers.  It is like MIDI -- it notates *performance*.
While standard notation also tells you (not as well as tab) where to put
your fingers, its primary purpose is to notate the *sound* of the music.
Actually, neither tab nor standard music notation is really "music", but
standard notation is a *lot* closer.

>
>This is perhaps not germane to a discussion of Bach, but if you
>step back a little ways early, "If people are really interested in 
>learning early music, shouldn't they at least make an effort to read 
>the notation of that time, tab?"

The tabulature of Bach's time was not very precise at all, just like
the tab of our time (which contains almost no information about
rhythm).  All of Bach's music is preserved through standard music
notation, not tab -- even the lute suites (whole long story there...).
Other works of Bach's time (eg Weiss) survive only in tab, but,
because of the weakness of tab as a notation, no one really knows how
it was supposed to sound.  In fact, transcriptions of old music from
tab can vary wildly.

[Whole bunch of stuff I totally agree with deleted]



-- 
Kent Crispin			"No reason to get excited",
kent@netcom.netcom.com		the thief he kindly spoke...
From: root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account)
Subject: Ty Tabor's Guitar Sound
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:49:00 GMT

As I am a HUGE fan of Kings X..I would like to know how to get that
massive guitar sound that Ty Tabor gets....my guess is that its his
Yamaha RGZ (w/ active pickups) through a Yamaha Amp w/no
effects...totally dry 


Any ideas?????

Adam.
University of Western Australia
From: shotokan@diku.dk (Kim H|glund)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Django (was Re: Steve Morse, Steve Vai, Satriani, Robert Johnson)
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:34:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

spb0457@zeus.tamu.edu (SubGenius) writes:

>>Can you recommend any recordings? I haven't heard him, but from what
>>I've read, Django is a forefather of modern guitar.

>+------------------------------------SubG------------------------------------+
>There's a CD that got released by the Official Record Company of Denmark in
>1990, part of their quite good "Le Jazz" series.  It goes under the misnomer
>of "The Complete Django Reinhardt," when it certainly is not.  It does, however
>have all twenty-four of the know recordings Django cut with Le quintette
>du hot club de france, and is certainly on of the best Django collections I've
>seen.

This compilation sounds like a good choise.  Another possiblity would be a
double LP called "The very best of Django Reinhardt" from DECCA.  There are
probably lots of other compilations -- look for the ones that contains some
of his best known recordings like "Nuages", "Belleville", "Babik", and "Minor
Swing" (just some of my personal favourites among his "hits" -- he made lots
of great tunes and arrangements of jazz standards.)

If you get serious about getting Django recordings then look out for the
"Djangologie" series (released by a French label, I think, through EMI.)
This series contain app. 20 records with most (all?) of his work from 1928
to 1953.

Cheers,
  Kim
_____
Kim H|glund,  shotokan@diku.dk,    CS Dept. at U of Copenhagen,  Denmark
"I've got plenty of common sense. I just choose to ignore it." -- Calvin
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From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: ** New at ftp.nevada.edu(131.216.1.11) 8/15 **
Originator: jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:38:22 GMT

	Beatles
		And Your Bird Can Sing t
	Dire Straits
		Sultans Of Swing t (updated)
	Eric Johnson
		Cliffs Of Dover t (updated)
	Micheal Hedges
		Watchtower
	Led Zeppelin
		Kashmir
	Pink Floyd
		Echoes t
		Dogs c

	PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PLEASE,	DO NOT send mail with questions 
about the gutiar archive to root@nevada.edu or ron@nevada.edu. ALL questions
should be sent to jamesb@nevada.edu PLEASE use the proper address.

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* jamesb@nevada.edu *                                       -- N. Peart       *
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From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Pitch Shifter/Harmonizer info
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:54:39 GMT
Reply-To: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

drp40@cd.amdahl.com (Douglas R Puchalski) posts:

#Harmonizer:  Ahhhh, the Evantide Harmonizer.  You've heard it on Steve Vai's
#albums, as well as Joe Satriani's and others.  All the bad boys have one of
#these toys.  There are a few versions, and they start at roughtly two grand,
#and go up from there ($4k?).

.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  

#Now, a harmonizer does just that.  It will truly harmonize
#your playing in the correct key.  So you obviously have to tell the unit that
#you're playing in, for instance, C minor.  Then it will listen for your input,
#determine it's pitch, determine then, based on the pitch and the scale, how
#far to shift the note's pitch.


About a year ago, I played through a device call ed a "SmartShift"
that accounted for key signature and mode, just like the "big boys
toys" do. It was well under $1000 - more like $600. There is also
an "Intelligent Pitch Shifter" (made by Digitech, I believe) that
does this and is in the $600 range. I was supremely pleased by
the SmartShift - it tracked perfectly and sounded great. I played
a couple of Brian May parts to see how well it would work and it
sounded great. It was footswitchable and had presets, BTW.


Also, if you stick with minor scales, parallel pitch shifters work
fine. Using one is a good way to reproduce Jim Martin's harmonized
lead from Faith No More's "Epic," for example. You can also use a 
MIDI continuous controller pedal to adjust how far the shifted note
is from the root, so you could play ionian scales and have the 7th 
tone come out as the correct pitch. But I'm not saying that this is
the perfect solution! At best, it might slow you down since you'd have
to time your playing and stepping on a pedal at the same time (back to
tap dancing).


THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
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