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From: pj@sam.wpd.sgi.com (Paul Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Re: inst making GID 9999
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:32:07 GMT
Reply-To: pj@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Research & Development

In article <1992Oct1.074807.12158@crow.omni.co.jp>, trich@crow.omni.co.jp (Timothy Richards) writes:
|> Well it turns out that inst when started from a shell it
|> ignores the NIS database.  Maybe this is reasonable when
|> installing from within miniroot in which case inst can use
|> the miniroot version of the /etc/group file.  But when inst
|> is run from a shell I expect it to use NIS (if it is running).

That's what I'd expect, too.  But you're quite right - it doesn't.

I will file an internal bug report on this.  Thanks for tracking
it down.  Since the fix is non-trivial, given other priorities,
it will be a while.  I hope that's ok.

-- 

				I won't rest till it's the best ...
				Software Production Engineer
				Paul Jackson (pj@sgi.com), x1373
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: rooke@noao.edu (Steve Rooke)
Subject: IDO 4.1 needed for C++ 3.0  (Was:  C++ 3.0, IRIX 4.0.5 bug?)
Reply-To: rooke@noao.edu
Organization: self organized :-)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:50:52 GMT

Various individuals in SGI resolved the problem I reported several days
ago (undefined symbol "ls_complicated__7ostreamFc" after encountering
a single char in a cout statement; all other datatypes in cout statements
were OK).

Because of the timing of my new order, I was shipped C++ 3.0 without
the IDO 4.1 CD, which is backordered.  C++ 3.0 should only have been
installed upon the 3.10 compiler release, which is in the upcoming
IDO 4.1 distribution.

-- 
Steve Rooke  (Internet:  rooke@noao.edu  or UUCP:  uunet!noao.edu!rooke)
From: HERBER@fnal.fnal.gov (Randolph J. Herber, CD/DCD/USS, x2966)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: changing timezone question
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:55:26 GMT

+From: FIMA602%haifauvm.bitnet@BRL.MIL
+Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
+Subject: changing timezone question
+Date: 22 Sep 92 22:04:56 GMT
+To:       info-iris@wolf.brl.mil

+Hi Folks,
+ How do you tell the computer that the local timezone has been changed ?
+ (summer daylight saving time has ended ).
+  Thanx
+     8-)&
+        Hana Strominger.

RTFM tzset(2) (which is part of the ctime(2) man page).

BTW, the timezone has not changed in most of the United States.  Where
are you writing from?

Randolph J. Herber, herber@fnalf.fnal.gov, +1 708 840 2966
(Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.)
(Product, trade, or service marks herein belong to their respective owners.)
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: R4k Indigo memory
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:07:39 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct3.123602.8775@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, senseman@lucy.brainlab.utsa.edu (David M. Senseman) writes:
> In article <qjomcv4@zuni.esd.sgi.com> olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:
> ...
>                                             So make sure you
> >get money back guarantees, or deal with somebody who is really
> >understands memory and SIMMs.
> 
> WOW! After all the effort you guys went to modify the memory structure
> of the r4K Indigo so it could use "standard 72-pin SIMMS" instead of
> the custom memory in the r3K Indigo, I was looking forward to populating
> my new r4K Indigo with "tons" of cheap RAM bought from the first mail order
> outfit I found in the back of Byte Magazine. Now I'm scared to buy it
> from even companies like Impediment that specializes in workstation
> memories....


Would you expect the cheap 3rd party memory situation for Indigos to be
any better than the situation for PC-clones?  Wouldn't you expect at
least as many hassles finding usuable Indigo memory on the street as
reliable memory for fast 486 mother boards?

What Dave wrote is some of the familiar advice given to anyone buying
SIMMs or any other hardware for PC's, unless you get such a good deal
that you are willing to take a chance.

Many people who assemble PC's evidently don't care if the result is
reliable.  Consider the recipes for increasing the clock speed on
mother boards.  Of course, it helps that most DOS file systems don't do
much buffering, and that most PC's are more "single user" than IRIS's
ever were (except for the terminals).


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Adding a second swap partition at boot time
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:55:48 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Sep30.232029.28186@serval.net.wsu.edu> flynn@kalamazoo.eecs.wsu.edu (Patrick J. Flynn) writes:
| I recently added a Fujitsu 1.2GB disk to my stock Indigo XS24Z.
| Since the default 40MB of swap on my root disk isn't sufficient
| for my needs, I added a 128MB swap partition to the Fuji.
| 
| How do I make IRIX add this swap space at boot time?  I can manually
| /etc/swap -a /dev/dsk/dks0d5s1 as root, but would rather the system
| do it for me.  The manual page for swap(1M) sez:
| 
| >Swap areas are normally added by the system start up routines in
| >/etc/rc2.d when going into multi-user mode.
| 
| But none of the scripts in rc2.d seem to have anything to do with
| swap partitions.  Do I need to hand-craft one? (eek!)

Yes, but don't worry, it is easy.  It is strongly recommended that
you *not* add it to an existing script, so you don't lose it during
an upgrade.

| I recall that Suns specify additional swap partitions in /etc/fstab,
| but the IRIX manual page says nothing about that.

No, we don't do it via fstab.

Just use one of the existing (simple) scripts as a template,
such as /etc/init.d/lp.  Don't forget to make links to /etc/rc2.d/SXXswap
and /etc/rc0.d/KXXswap (where XX is a reasonably high number, like 98).
Make the stop) case do the corresponding swap -d command.  While not
absolutely necessary, it is definitely a good idea.

This is handled in somewhat more detail in one of the system admin
manuals, I'm pretty sure.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov (Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  3rd RFD: comp.sys.sgi reorganization
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:01:06 GMT


     3rd RFD?  I never saw 1 & 2.  Any ways.  Do we need misc?  What wouldn't
be covered by the other groups that would warrant having the misc group?
I prefer proposal 1.  If a message is posted to one of the lists and is routed
through info-iris, will there be an obvious indication what list it
originally came from?  Will a simple `r' to reply not work?
     Is it easy to automate the addition and deletion of mailing list members?
If it is, could some one give this information and any necessary scripts to
Chuck Kennedy.  If additions and deletions to the lists are made very easy,
maybe Chuck would be more willing to have 7 separate mailing lists.  I can
see Chuck's position.  It is probably hard enough as it is to maintain ONE
list on a part time basis, let alone trying to maintain 7.  If things are
made very easy, it could reduce his load below that of the single list.

  Brent L. Bates				Phone:(804) 864-2854
  M.S. 361			  		  FAX:(804) 864-8469
  NASA Langley Research Center
  Hampton, Virginia  23681-0001
  E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero00.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: slf@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Stewart Forster)
Subject: Re: securing 8mm backups
Originator: slf@turiel.cs.mu.OZ.AU
Keywords: backups
Reply-To: slf@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Stewart Forster)
Organization: Computer Science, University Of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:43:14 GMT


In article <9859@fs3.cam.nist.gov>, gpfrn@cam.nist.gov (Glenn_P._Forney_x2313) writes:
> i use the bsd dump command to backup local and
> remote file systems.  two of the weak links in
> my scripts are 1) any one can write to /dev/nrtape
> so that the back up media is not secure

	Create a new user with a login group of "operator",
(you may have to edit the /etc/group file to create one), and then
run the dumps under this user.  You will have to do a

	chgrp operator /dev/nrtape
	chmod 660 /dev/nrtape

command first as root, so only users in group "operator" can access
the tape drive.  If you have other users who need the tape drive and
`CAN BE TRUSTED', then edit the /etc/group file and add their login
names separated by commas for the operator line.

2) don't
> know how to verify that tape in drive is the right
> tape.  (several people share the tape drive.  would like
> to automatically check tape before writing to it.)
> bru is not suitable because it restricts file names
> to 127 characters.  can someone suggest a simple way to solve
> the above two problems?

	We use tar here to do this.

	touch /tmp/filename
	cd /tmp
	mt -t /dev/nrtape rew
	`tar cf /dev/nrtape filename'

to store the file on the tape drive.  Then if you want to check if it's the
correct tape do,

	mt -t /dev/nrtape rew
	set tapelabel = `tar tf /dev/nrtape`

	and now compare $tapelabel with what you expect it to be.

> thanks,
> glenn forney
> gpfrn@cfr6.cfr.nist.gov
-- 
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| Stewart Forster	Systems Programmer - Department of Computer Science |
|		University Of Melbourne		Phone : +61 3 3444046	    |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics
From: marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen)
Subject: Decomposing large concave polygons.
Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:16:00 GMT

Is there a general method for breaking a very large concave polygon
(with hundreds of vertices) into a number of smaller concave polygons?
(This question arises because IRIS GL only handles polygons with <=256
vertices.)

If one can assume that there exists a line not passing outside the
polygon from any vertex to the midpoint of the bounding box of the
polygon (or to some other location inside the polygon), then the
solution is easy: use the midpoint as an extra (common) vertex.  But
I'm not sure what to do otherwise......

Thanks,

Marc

--
Marc Andreessen
Software Development Group
National Center for Supercomputing Applications
marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: steve@donald.tamu.edu (Steve Rikli)
Subject: Re: Help with Emacs 18.58 on Irix 4.0.*
Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:59:13 GMT

drich@sandman.lerc.nasa.gov>>
poirier@info.polymtl.ca>

>> I am attempting to build GNU Emacs 18.58 on and SGI 4D/25 running Irix
>> 4.0.5.  Everything compiles correctly, but it fails when temacs
>> attempts to dump xemacs with "*** Termination code 139" (if I run
>> temacs with gdb, I get a segmentation fault in unexmips.c at line 190).
>>
>> To configure this, I configured the paths in the top-level Makefile for
>> my installation, added X11 support in config.h, set the machine and
>> system to m-iris4d.h and s-irix4-0.h respectively, and changed an
>> '#ifdef 0' to '#if 0' in s-irix4-0.h because I didn't like seeing the
>> warning every time it was included.
>>
>> I assume that there are people who have gotten this to work, so what
>> did you do differently?  I have tried two different machines (a 4D/25
>> and a 4D/480), and both produce the same error.
>
>	When i compiled emacs-18.58 on a 4D/20 running 4.0.4 I had to put
>the DEBUG_OPTION. With no DEBUG_OPTION emacs was compiling but it didn't
>run. 
>
>prompt> emacs
>killed
>
>prompt>

I assume that you're referring to the "C_DEBUG_SWITCH" in emacs/src/ymakefile,
right?  I have set this (it's defined as "-g" in my distribution, btw), unset
it, added the -O option (as discussed for gcc in emacs/INSTALL) and I am still
seeing the 'killed' behavior you describe above.

Other things I've tried:  compiling with gcc [-traditional | -ansi], cc [-cckr],
and compiling with[out] the Xmenu facility.

For the record, I'm running Irix 4.0.1, on 4d/2*, using the same s- and m-
support files mentioned above.  Emacs 18.58 compiles and runs like a charm on
our single Iris that's still running 3.3.2, but no matter what I've tried so
far, the only thing I get is 'killed' on any of the Irises running 4.0.1 .

At this point, I'd really like to see the emacs/Makefile, emacs/src/config.h,
and emacs/src/ymakefile from someone who has successfully compiled and run
emacs 18.58 in a similar situation.  I'll summarize if I can get it to work.

cheers,
sr.
--
|| Steve Rikli 	           |||  Visualization Lab               ||
|| steve@archone.tamu.edu  |||  Texas A&M University            ||
|| (409) 845-3465          |||  College Station, TX  77843-3137 ||
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: Jim Barrett <barrett@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: What's the difference between plock and prctl(PR_RESIDENT) ?
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:24:19 GMT

I want to lock a process into memory, and see what look like three
different ways to do it:

    plock(2)
    	- lock process, text, or data in memory
    prctl(2), with the PR_RESIDENT option
    	- makes the process immune to process swapout
    mpin(2)
        - lock pages in memory.  

All three look like they do the same thing, with mpin(2) being the most
work (having to determine the addresses of the pages I want locked in),
and plock and prctl being equally easy to use.  

Do plock and prctl do the same thing?  Should I use mpin to be
portable?

Many advance thanks,

Jim

--
Jim Barrett                                  barrett@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov
"This has been a test of the Opinion Broadcast System.  If this had
been
an actual opinion you would have received instructions on where to go
and
what to do.  This is only a test."
From: lingley@ug.cs.dal.ca (William Lingley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Help: extracting material values.
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:02:59 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada


I would like to be able to find the values of given material
qualities at will.  i.e. Find the red value of the AMBIENT quality
of a given bound material, or even the entire array.
There seem to be get calls for everything else.

adv-thanx-ance

William
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: inst
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 03:45:37 GMT

In <1992Oct5.165445.16204@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> fnorman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Farley Norman) writes:

| Hi ,
| 
|   We have a Personal Iris (4D/25), running IRIX 4.0.4
| When I did an inst, I saw these listed
| 
|   maint1    (unknown product)
|   maint1.dev_sw (unknown image)
|   maint1.dev_sw.giftssrc (unknown subsystem)
| 
|   are these "unknown" products something really
| old I can delete ?

Yes, except that inst won't let you remove maint products
unless the underlying products are also removed.  These look
like they came from 3.3, or maybe even an early release.

|   Also, after updating from 3.3.X to 4.0.X, I seem
| to have lost whatever man subsystem the (3M)
| man pages are contained in.  Previously
| I could do a man atan, for example, or
| man trig, or man printf and I would get
| a man page.

Looks to me like they are in dev.man.lib (or maint_dev.man.lib
if you have maint images).
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: NEW and OLD at miniroot time...?
Keywords: inst, miniroot, install
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:58:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Oct2.120602.1124@syma.sussex.ac.uk> johnu@syma.sussex.ac.uk (John E. Upham) writes:

| When using miniroot to install sofware I've noticed things appear to
| have 'Newer version installed' and 'Older version installed' at the
| same time for the same bit of software. In other words, you see
|  both 'N' and 'X' in the same column. What does this mean ?

A confused installation history, usually.  3.3.X was particularly
bad about this, and 4.0.X got much better, but still not perfect,
particularly with maint images.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Hard Disk Drive format on IRIS 3000?
From: newwave@desire.wright.edu
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:58:10 EST
Organization: Wright State University 


  Anybody know what format Hard Disk Drives were installed in the ancient
IRIS 3000 systems.  They look like IDE drives.  But I'm not sure.  I would 
appreciate any info on these old beasts.  Please email rather than posting
in this newsgroup.  Not a frequent reader of this group.  Thanking you all in
advance.

Cheers...
K. Desai
From: torstein@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no (torstein hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Restrict login for users
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:57:06 GMT

I have set up our IRIS as a POP-mail server for several people.
As they don't have to run any programs on this machine, I would like
to restrict their access to read email only. At present I have done this:

The users login shell is csh.
In the users .cshrc-file the last entry is "logout"
The users are appended in /etc/ftpusers

As far as I have been able to check, if the user tries to log in to
the machine by telnet, they are logged out again before they can do
anything. (The POP-mail program we use for the PC's still works)

Is this a secure way of doing things, are there any workarounds?

Thanks

Torstein Hansen
torstein@itekiris.kjemi.unit.no
From: richard@iris26.biosym.com (Richard Macdonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: followup on xmh on indigo
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:45:54 GMT


Terry  Weissman wins the prize!!

Typing comp to send a message gave me the error:
unable to exec /ax1/usr/local/emacs-18.58/bin/xemacs: Permission denied

The system-wide emacs program had been moved.  Thus there was a
problem with my .mh_profile file.  The interesting thing was that
xmh allowed me to use the default editor, but gave no warning
or error messages.

Thanks to all who replied.

***********************************************************
Richard D. Macdonald, Ph.D.  voice: (619) 546-5527
Biosym Technologies     internet: richard@biosym.com
9685 Scranton Road
San Diego, CA 92121-2777
***********************************************************
From: lau@avila.ai.sri.com (Stephen Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Dual Monitors
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:32:28 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA


Is it possible to have one grayscale and one color
monitor on an SGI machine both running a windowing system
at the same time? In other words, can I have two 
monitors set up so I can move the mouse off of one 
monitor and onto the other and vice versa? Some people
around here are used to the Sun set up they have where
all of their text editing is done on the grayscale
monitor and all the displaying is on the color one.


Steve
From: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov (Brent L. Bates ViGYAN AAD/TAB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  OpenGL Printers?
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:27:09 GMT


     There are some libraries out there that you can use to dump out
PostScript files.  These libraries replace calls to the standard GL
routines, they both execute the GL calls AND write out equivallent PostScript.
One library I've used does an ok job, but doesn't do Z-buffering or clipping.
Perhaps there are better ones out there now.

  Brent L. Bates				Phone:(804) 864-2854
  M.S. 361			  		  FAX:(804) 864-8469
  NASA Langley Research Center
  Hampton, Virginia  23681-0001
  E-mail: blbates@aero36.larc.nasa.gov or blbates@aero00.larc.nasa.gov
From: ib@ivan.esd.sgi.com (Ivan Bach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: New 4680-300 InfoServer Released
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:55:20 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <48022@shamash.cdc.com> kts@udev.cdc.com (Kathy Skow) from Control 
Data posted an announcement about a new Control Data product.  I think that 
such announcements should be posted to the newsgroup comp.newprod, not to
to comp.sys newsgroups.

Ivan Bach, ib@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: portuesi@tweezers.esd.sgi.com (Michael Portuesi)
Subject: Re: Need help in Showcase II
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 16:25:52 GMT


In article <1992Oct3.133931.26425@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, cychong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu writes:
> HI, every comp.sys.sgi subscriber,
> 
>      Need help in Showcase again!! Besides connecting the
> text blocks from two or more different pages, I would like
> to know also if anyone knows how to put the page number on
> each page in the same position. Would it be possible to
> just put the page number on one page and then Showcase
> will automatically paste the page numbers in the next pages?
> 
>      Thanks a lot. Your help will be appreciated.



The procedure for adding page numbers to a document is
described on page 3-39 of the IRIS Showcase User's Guide.
I'll quote the book here, for your convenience:


	Adding Page Numbers

	The Text gizmo contains a button for adding page
	numbers.  To use it:

		1. Create a new Text object or edit an
		   existing Text object.

		2. Click the "Page #" button in the Text
		   gizmo.

		   The page number is inserted into the
		   Text object.

	If you rearrange pages or copy the Text object to
	a different page, the page numbers change
	accordingly.


If you are creating a multi-page document, you might wish
to examine the Showcase Template feature.  A template
allow you to set up in one step everything which is repeated
for every page of your document.  You could make a template
which contains a Page # text item at the bottom of the page.
Then the page number would automatically be a part of each
page in your document, in the exact same place, without any
extra work on your part.

Additionally, you can set up a template which automatically
links the text block on each new page you create with the
text on the page before it.

Instructions for accomplishing these tasks, and much more,
can be found in the IRIS Showcase User's Guide.  I suggest
you turn to page 3-29 and check out the section entitled
"Working with Templates."

I really do suggest that you check out the Showcase User's
Guide and the online help -- you can get your answer much
faster that way, compared to a Usenet query.  For online
help, just pull down the "Help" menu at the upper right
corner of the Showcase display.


--
Michael Portuesi   Silicon Graphics, Inc.   portuesi@sgi.com