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From: mancini@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Derrick C. Mancini)
Subject: Re: The IIvi/vx CAN be saved!!. apple PLEASE do it!!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Summary: rationale for metal case?
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 13:36:49 GMT

Just a thought about the metal cases.  I buy into the idea that
it was a low cost - better EMF shielding choice.  ESPECIALLY since
this was to be a home computer (Performa 600) and you had to go
for HOME FCC rather than OFFICE FCC requirements on EMF, while
allowing third parties to provide NuBus products that might really
broadcast alot of noise.  I am sure without all the expansion
option, a plastic mold with sprayon screen might have sufficed
(as the lowend models have).  But the higher end models with
expansion usually required full internal metal shielding.  So
I presume this was a cheaper alternative?

dcm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: stiv@stat.rice.edu (david n stivers)
Subject: Minidock:allows internal & external monitor simultaneously?
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:25:00 GMT


	I'm interested in the 210 and the 160. Cost considerations
	aside, one of the big attractions of the 160 is that it will
	run the internal and and external monitor simultaneously.
	Obviously, the big DuoDock won't allow this. Does the Mini? My
	impressions from reading the stuff on the MiniDock is that it's
	supposed to be pretty portable; therefore, you can use the MiniDock
	as is (i.e., no external keyboard/monitor required as with the
	DuoDock).  Yet, it still has the external monitor port.

	If the MiniDock will allow the use of the external monitor,
	then my choice between the 210 and 160 will be harder; otherwise,
	there's no question that I'll vote in favor of the 160.

	And how about 3rd party docks...?

	David
-- 

david n stivers stiv@rice.edu
From: John Hammond@biomail.sjsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE/30 floppy drive dying
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:43:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Biological Sciences, San Jose State University

In article <BxIuG9.Gw8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> astalker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(Altan J. Stalker) writes:
>In article <shl1.721367443@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> shl1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu
(Steven Lee) writes:
>>It started right after I installed Micron Xeed 8-bit color card and the gray-
>>scale adapter myself this spring.  Sometimes when I insert a floppy disk into
>>the drive, the drive wouldn't recognize the presence of the disk.  The
mechanism
>>would pull the disk into the drive, but the reading/writing head wouldn't
spin.
>>If I use a paper clip trying to eject the disk, as soon as I put the paper
clip
>>through the hole, the drive would come back to life again.  However, it keeps
>>occurring every couple of weeks or so.  Recently it happens a lot more
frequently, and sometimes I have to put the paper clip through the hole a
couple of times before the drive revives.  It's getting very annoying.
>>
>>Anyone knows what's wrong with it and how to fix it besides bringing the
machine to an Apple dealer (something a college freshman cannot afford to do)
>>

This problem is caused by failure of the microswitch that senses the presence
of the floppy disk. Replacement is available for about $5 from 
MicroDoc Computer Repair, 2477 W. 29th AV, Eugene OR 97405
503.344.5335   fax: 503.344.5020

It's easy to replace, for it's right at the front of the drive.

John Hammond, netperson for:            |   I don't know why we're here,
  Biological Sciences                   |    but I do know we're supposed
  San Jose State University             |     to be kind to one another...
Internet: hammond@biomail.sjsu.edu      |
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Minidock:allows internal & external monitor simultaneously?
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:29:16 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

stiv@stat.rice.edu (david n stivers) writes:

>	If the MiniDock will allow the use of the external monitor,
>	then my choice between the 210 and 160 will be harder; otherwise,
>	there's no question that I'll vote in favor of the 160.

    Yes, the MiniDock allows for the same kid of monitor use that the
160/180 give you. As well as allowing for the mirror/non-mirror mode
function of the Powerbook Monitors cp.

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
	"Hey, we're on the Cutting Edge!"
	"Too bad we're not on the side you keep." - Mr. Boffo
From: bo3b@ultramac.uucp (Bob Overkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mouse Ball Replacement
Date: 4 Nov 92 11:49:18 GMT
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc

Christian Bauer inquires:
We have difficulties with some students, who find it very amusing
steeling the mouse balls of macintosh and pc mice.

Has anyone an address where such little balls can be obtained?

You may buy as many as you want from either
 Shreve Systems
 2421 Malcolm ST
 Shreveport, Louisiana 71108
 (318)635-1121
or
 PreOwned Electronics
 30 Clematis AV
 Waltham, MA 02154
 (800)274-5343

Be sure to clearly specify whether you need the older & heavier gray ball or
the newer & lighter black ball.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: marshall@cs.iastate.edu (Bill Marshall)
Subject: Re: Networks of Macs
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:09:55 GMT

chuck@gte.com (Chuck Hoffman) writes:

>Currently, we are using Alisashare to share files between Macs on an
>Ethernet.  We are probably going to remove the VMS operating system where
>the Alisa software runs, and go with an all unix/ULTRIX network.

>There is not a version of Alisashare for unix.  What are non-VMS sites
>doing about sharing files, especially predominantly unix sites?

>About 300 Macs on the net.  Most running 6.0.7/8 or 7.0.1.

You might want to look into CAP. Columbia AppleTalk Package (I think)
it is free. I've never used it though.

You can ask more questions in comp.protocols.appletalk

Bill
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			    Bill Marshall
		     Computer Science Department
			Iowa State University
		       marshall@cs.iastate.edu
From: ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: *** HARD DRIVE HELP NEEDED! PLEASE READ! ***
Date: 5 Nov 92 08:38:32 GMT
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

eaeu209@orion.oac.uci.edu (Rodney G. Ramos) writes:
: I've posted this before, but the response wasn't that great. So I thought
: I'd give this another try before I give up on this news group. Here's
: my situation:
: 
: I'm planning to buy a used hard drive but I want to test it to see if it's
: still in good working condition. Other than giving it power to see if it
: spins up, what other test can I do?  Are there utilities/methods I can use?
: 
: Any help would be appreciated.

Well, the first thing you could do is run a disk program to test for
bad blocks. There are many (non)commercial products that do this.

Then you could run some diskspeed tester to test if the disk performance
is anyway near the normal/expected values. Again there are plenty progams
that do this.


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Distribution: world
From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 00:25:12 EST
Subject: Re: 68050

An entire buliding as in HUGE buliding for the reserch and development of the
Power PC.  I was trying to infer that the Power PC chips are a cooperative
effort between Apple, IBM, and Motorola.  The "entire buliding" comment is
more of a point of view I guess.  To me it signifies the commitment these
three companies have to developing this one product..... and no .... I'm not
saying that IBM PC's are fast ..... but the PC's are Personal Computers
targeted towards home users .... the PC's use Intel chips (laugh laugh .... um
no offense).  I was talking about speed in the sense of IBM RISC based
workstations that use IBM RISC chips.  Get the idea??? Joe C.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tod@cs.washington.edu (Tod Amon)
Subject: Manual spindown on Powerbooks
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 17:15:29 GMT

Is there a nice way to manually spin down the hard-drive on a Powerbook 160?
Sometimes it's just too noisy.  I know there is an FKEY around, but is there
a more system-7 friendly way of doing this?
-tod
From: eaeu137@orion.oac.uci.edu (Andrew Theodore Laurence)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Why overpay for Mac?
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:59:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

Working in both the campus computer store and as a freelance cosultant,
I always answer the "PC or Mac" question:

If you want the bitchin'est machine for the least money, get a PC. If you
want the least headaches, get a Mac.

My $.02,
Andrew Laurence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: oh@cc.gatech.edu (Yong-Chul Oh)
Subject: SE-30 logic board, where? how much?
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:42:18 GMT


After I got burning smell, I turned off the it immediately.
However, a SE-30 never boots again. It open a bright small checkered
screen, but neither startup bong nor desktop screen. One guy suggested
to check a logic board. Where can I get a SE-30 logic board?
Even if just one chip was burned out, do I have to change an entire board?
--
OH, Yong-Chul
College of Computing
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
oh@cc.gatech.edu
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Rise in memory prices, why?
Keywords: DRAM, memory, pricing
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:44:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov11.234410.25056
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1ds1jhINNrqe@anthrax.solbourne.com> kucharsk@solbourne.com (William  
Kucharski) writes:
> While reading article <1992Nov11.190950.15335@src.umd.edu>, I noticed that
> josip@eng.umd.edu (Josip Loncaric) said the following:
>  >I believe MacWeek had a story on this -- I seem to remember them saying  
that
>  >the U.S. concluded South Koreans were dumping memory chips below cost, so
>  >that some penalties were applied, and the price of 1Mb SIMM went from $29  
up
>  >to $49.  My memory could be hazy, since I do not have the article in front
>  >of me, but in essence the price rise involves trade dispute over dumping.
> 
> One important thing to note is that the penalties have NOT been assessed as
> of yet; the mere threat of penalties has caused prices to raise in  
anticipation
> of penalties yet to be imposed.  This is best compared to the way gas prices
> rise with increasing world tensions, regardless of whether there is actually
> any change in gas/oil availability at all.  Call it price gouging, if you  
like,
> or simply opportunism - the fact remains that no penalties have yet been
> assessed.
> -- 
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> | Internet: kucharsk@solbourne.com   Ham: N0OKQ   | are MINE alone, not those
> | Snail Mail: 1900 Pike Road, Longmont, CO  80501 | of Solbourne Computer,  
Inc.
> | President, "Just the Ten of Us" Fan Club        | "Dittos from Longmont,  
CO"

	It's not quite the same. A dealer who now has chips at $29, will have  
to replace his inventory with chips at $49 (to use above pricing). It is often  
more important to consider the price of replacing inventory, then to look at  
the profit margin on one particular order. In addition, DRAM is a commodities  
market, where speculation is the rule.

--
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Departments of Physics and Philosophy
Artificial Life Project			Reed College
Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)	Portland, OR
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:21378 comp.sys.mac.misc:19069
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 11 Nov 1992 14:58:24 PST
From: Bebo White <BEBO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: WANTED: Printer Recommendations

I hope that this isn't too mundane a question to ask for this group.

I would like ASAP recommmendations for a good, letter quality printer
for $800 or less.

Thanks in advance for any help.


Bebo White
---> the opinions expressed are mine alone and not necessarily those
     of SLAC, Stanford University or the DOE
From: eaeu137@orion.oac.uci.edu (Andrew Theodore Laurence)
Subject: Re: Deskwriter vs. Deskjet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:35:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.182038.1260@mksol.dseg.ti.com> martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com (niels r martin) writes:
>Is there any graceful way to print from a PB160 or Classic to a DeskJET rather
>than a DeskWRITER?  Is there a hardware difference between the two, or is it
>only a software (i.e. driver) difference?  I would prefer a software fix is
>possible.
>

Call MacConnection and order yourself a copy of PowerPrint from GDT 
Softworks. This package includes a Mac serial==>PC parallel cable and
a bunch of printer drivers. It works great - I have an NEC PinWriter 
P2200 that is very happy with PowerPrint. I highly recommend it.

Hope this helps,
Andrew Laurence
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Distribution: world
From: Matt_Harrop@magicbb.uucp
Organization: MAGIC - Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:22:16 EST
Subject: Re: Radius vs. Daystar Powercache

>I heard one of the two companies was developing some software that allowed
>seperate processing.  In other words .... you can lauch Microsoft Excell on
>your Radius Rocket and maybe Claris Filemaker Pro on your Mac ][vx or
whatever
>you might have.  So I'm not talkin' about Multifinder or running stuff in the
>background, just to avoid confusion. ....... I'm talking about actually
>running two different applications in two different processors on the same
>machine simultaneously.  Has anyone heard anyhting similar???  Be warned ...
I
>think I read this somewhere ..... this is not fact ...... yet.  Joe C.

The Radius Rocket has software called RocketShare that allows you to use two
or more Rockets independantly.  You can also launch one task on the Rocket and
another on the Macs own CPU.  (I know you can use the Mac's CPU and a Rockets
CPU on a Quadra, but I'm not sure about other Macs.)  If you're software
supports it you can also use several Rockets together on one task.  eg.
MacRenderMan can use 2 or more Rockets at the same time to render an image.  
Very cool, very fast, and VERY expensive.

Matt_Harrop@magicbb.uucp  or
matt.harrop@argentic.gts.org
THE TRUTH IS A VIRUS
From: u2087546@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Weird IIsi + 7.1
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:57:14 +1100
Organization: Comedy Company

Hi everyone.
I'm getting some slow Speedometer 3.1 results from my IIsi now that
I've installed system 7.1. I've adjusted the disk cache from 384k-2048k
with no difference to the CPU results. These are:
                         7.1                7.0.1+Tuner
      CPU:              4.35                 5.45
      GRAPHICS:         5.92                 6.55
      DISK:             1.85                 1.87
      MATH:             7.93                 19.98
      Overall:          4.40                 6.50

It appears that 7.1 no longer includes the SANE trap, but why such a
low CPU result? The 8-bit video result jumps from 1.25 for 7.0.1 to
1.41 for 7.1 while all the other depths are worse off. I have no extraneous
inits or cdevs loaded.
Any ideas?

Steve Margelis
From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: What VGA/SVGA monitors CAN the PB160/180 use?
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:30:59 GMT
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: yhsu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of 5 Nov 92 22:34:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.223400.15396@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> yhsu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Yuta Hsu) writes:

>   We've all heard that the new PBs can run "some VGA and SVGA monitors"... 
>so what constitutes some? I've been told that Sony and NEC MultiSyncs are the 
>best bets... but I've got a 14" Mitsubishi DiamondScan multisync, and I'm 
>wondering if it'll work. I've seen the video-out cable for the PBs, and it's a 
>15 pin female. Can anyone enlighten me on the subject?

David Ramsey on CI$ said that any modern multisync monitor should
work.  The way you tell it what resoltuion to drive the monitor at is
by the cable adapter you use; grounding cewrtain pins tells it to use
13", 16" or 21" resolution.  He said there was a company that makes a
Mac<->VGA adapter that is switchable between the various resolutions.

Neat.

jas
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From: Schenectady, NY (S. Van Nostrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Epson Dotmatrix <--> Appletalk
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:52:56 GMT
Organization: GE I&PSS

Can anyone tell me the ins/outs of hooking an Epson dot matrix
printer up to Appletalk.  We presently have an Image Writer II
that is printing 3 part forms (slow!).  I'm somewhat familiar
with Appletalk / Ethernet, etc.  Is there some sort of bridge
box/convertor/decoder available?  As long as ~ 20 users can access
the printer though the Chooser, I'm not worried about what hardware/
software I need to buy.

Thanx well in advanace.

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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New 14" vs. Performa Display+ ???
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:35:07 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

David_A._Schnider@bmug.org wrote:
: Honestly, this is a foolish comparison for one reason.  There is a better,
: cheaper monitor.  The Sony CPD-1320 has a better dot pitch and sells for $425
: (out the door after S&H).  There's no reason to spend $100 more on the Apple
: 14" which is the same thing.
: 
: -David

 It's sure not the same monitor. The Sony CPS-1320 is almost the oldest 14"
trinitron manufactured by Sony, and if my memory helps me, i've read somewhere
on the news that it has been discontinued. I've seen one use by my friend with
his LC, and frankly the old 13" from Apple was better. I didn't see the new
Apple monitor yet, but i'm almost sure it would be at least as good as the old
one. Notice that the List price of the monitor is only $540, so the street
price might be cheaper than $500.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: >>> (Plus) SIMMs and SCSI HD questions.. Please Help! <<<<<<
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:39:10 GMT

First, the SIMMs question...

What are the slowest SIMMs that can be used in a Plus?
I understand I can use faster SIMMs in a Plus, but will the Mac actually be any faster?

Now for the hard drive questions...

I was in Micro Center, not that I planned on actually buying anything from those jerks (I almost through a party... that was the third time in 13 years I've been asked if I needed any assistance!) to see what they were asking for hard drives... I just about laughed at the guy when I told him I wanted to spend around $500 max and he showed me an 80 meg drive, considering a person could mail order one much cheaper... 

anyways, Does anybody have any recommendations on any mail order houses for drives, and brands they would recommend getting or avoiding?

Also, I have heard about some not being compatible with plusses... out of curiosity, why?

And the last question: Do SCSI drives on a mac REQUIRE a driver of some type?  I remember a while back having to configure people's drives, and there was always the issue of the driver (in the system folder)... but I have also seen people walk up to a mac, plug in their drive, and start using it after restarting, with no installation of a driver of any type.

Thank you,
JT Milhoan


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: carter@cae.wisc.edu (Carter Gregory)
Subject: Re: LS vs. NTR
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 8 Nov 92 10:39:48 CST

In article <1992Nov4.170033@IASTATE.EDU> jlbraddy@IASTATE.EDU (Jason Braddy) writes:
>Well, I posted the original question, and got one clueful answer via e-mail.
>I am aware that bitmapped fonts are not scalable (by definition) and and
>outline fonts are (ditto).  The LS can print TrueType fonts, however, which
>are scalable to pretty much any size.  I know these things...this isn't what
>I asked.
>
>As for graphics, a Quickdraw circle will print just as smooth as a PS circle
>on a printer that supports both.  I know this from experience, this wasn't my
>question either.  (Although Quickdraw isn't as flexible)

That is very true, in fact I can't tell the difference between a bit-image
and a PS-Image on our PL which has been upgraded to support PS besides
suporting Quickdraw.

>
>What I _did_ ask was, does a software PostScript emulator give the same quality
>as a hardware version (i.e. a PS printer).  I have been informed that the
>answer is yes, although the software (Freedom of the Press, specifically) is
>a lot slower.

Yes, or in theory it can.  I have an ATARI Mega STE and I use some postscript
emulation software which my computer dutifully works on while it prints
to a Epson FX-85 with very impressive results...although you have to wait
for QUITE a while before you get a full page to print out.

Its sort of neato taking postscript files and porting them between computers.
It certainly saves me big buck'os and is convienant in that I can upload
the PS material to any PS printer anywhere without worrying about the
application residing on the resident computer to print out whatever I
am hauling around with me that day.
 
With a laser printer and the correct Quickdraw drivers, a non PS printer
should be able to do just as well, however, I don't know of any software
which will emulate, or run, postscript on the Mac.  It is sort of esoteric
considering that Quickdraw already has the rastering ability on screen and
is easily supported in those Apple's Laserwriters which include Quickdraw 
emulation.

Then of course, now a days, most printers offer very affordable PS options.

-Greggy POO
>
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