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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: The depth of Right wing BS
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:31:39 GMT

alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:

>In article <mykes.09de@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

>>Yes, 4 more years.  The price of gold went up $5 today on the
>>latest polling data.

>	Keep your day job mike, the financial markets can wait for your
>talents. Gold is indeed up, as it has been climbing for some time,

Climbing?   Last time I bought some it was $430 or so, a few years ago.
Last time I checked it was $360 or so, a few months ago.   Do you mean
"for some time" as in recent weeks, which is meaningless, or "for some
time" as in the last 50 years, which would certianly make your statement
true?   Gold is not a good investment unless you plan (and are able to)
to hold on during the price dips like the one of recent years.

>most analysts would tie that to the fall of the dollar, which has been
>dropping steadily. Right now, Gold is a much better investment then cash,
>unless the cash is in Yen or Marks.

	Or unless the gold has been losing value, like it has in recent
years.

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain)
Subject: The depth of Right wing BS
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:55:43 GMT

In article <mykes.09de@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

>Yes, 4 more years.  The price of gold went up $5 today on the
>latest polling data.

	Keep your day job mike, the financial markets can wait for your
talents. Gold is indeed up, as it has been climbing for some time, but
most analysts would tie that to the fall of the dollar, which has been
dropping steadily. Right now, Gold is a much better investment then cash,
unless the cash is in Yen or Marks.

	What is going up, as a result of the latest poll, is that fear
level among right wingers that Clinton will win. This won't effect the
markets as much as it will put a halt to the right wing agenda that
has been working its way through the country in recent years. The
bottom line is that we can expect the Dems to get blamed for
everything from the current unemployment rate to apeasing Saddam
Hussian.

	I noticed that Bush is now saying the same things about
Clintons economic policies that he said about Reagans economic
policies. Pretty funny, comong from a man who has presided over the
slowest economy since WWII.

	I've gotta admit, it's fun to watch.
-- 
Anybody who agrees with me deserves what they get.

					Alex Crain
					UMBC Academic Computing Services
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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: alt.fan.rush and alt.rush, how to avoid the repetition
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:27:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul22.032450.10281@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> yin@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU writes:
>
>I have grown tired of having to see almost every article appearing twice.  
>Is there anything I can do?

Not that I've found - you can have your sysadm guy reject one of the groups,
or stop aliasing the two together, but other than that you're going to 
see both groups no matter what you do. Sigh.
-- 
John Switzer               | "Gammera is really neat,
                           | Gammera's full of turtle meat, 
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | We all love you, Gammera."
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: KENNEDY SONGS....PLEEEEEEEZE!!!
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:56:43 GMT

The Philanderer, ha!   Ever since hearing that, I crack up whenever
I hear the original The Wanderer.

That's the funniest thing I've ever heard on Rush.  Even my grandfather
laughed out loud.   He doesn't listen to Rush, but he's refered to Ted
Kennedy as "The Swimmer" for decades.


Jim 
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From: alex@umbc5.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Quayle on abortion
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:06:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services


	I didn't see the show, but I heard that Quayle was on Larry King,
and someone asked hiw what he would do if his daughter got pregnant and
wanted an abortion. His response was that he would support her "in any
decsion that she made".

	Sounds pretty pro-choice (and anti-family-values, as defined by
Quayle himself) to me. Comments?
-- 
Anybody who agrees with me deserves what they get.

					Alex Crain
					UMBC Academic Computing Services
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The real deal
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:56:28 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

In article 1@vax1.umkc.edu, jroberts@vax1.umkc.edu () writes:
>Despite all of the atttention given to the Rush Limbaugh Fan Club, not all of
>it is good.  Some of it, including mine, is false.  
>The only reason I listen to him is to get an idea of how stupid someone can
>really be.  His problem is that he has captured the hearts of many listeners
>who don't want to think for himself.  Instead, he thinks for them.  That's why
>he's one of the most listened-to talk-show hosts in the country.
>Another thing about him that pisses me off is his arrogance.  I heard him
>talking to an African-American about the Rodney King issue once.  The man
>seemed to be more intelligent than Rush because whenever he disputed something
>that he said, Rush cut him off.  That just sums up his one big problem:  no
>matter how many newspapers or magazines or journals you read every day, you'll
>always be known as the man who dropped out of college and always seems to be
>frightened of any caller to your show that has one and disagrees with you 100%
>That's all I have to say about Rush Limbaugh.  My opinion may not matter much
>to some of the loyal listeners to his shows, but at least I'm thinking.

Your feelings exactly agree with mine.  His non-thinking lackeys are quite
a bunch.  I used to go toe-to-toe with a few of them on RIME but they all
withered away when they realized that they had no leg to stand on.  I don't
mind his arrogance so much but I do object to his lack of tolerance for
anyone who disagrees with him.
---
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internet:	msako@lsil.com		FAX	408-433-8796
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RIME:		->REDBARON, conference=POLITICS
Disclaimer:	The opinions expressed are mine and mine alone
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:24:53 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

In article 711981623@Ra.MsState.Edu, crb2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chad R. Berthelson) writes:
>In this VERY hypothetical instance, Quayle obviously doesn't want his
>daughter to have an abortion (and I am sure would be heart-broken if she
>did), but the fact is..the law (as it reads in most places), leaves
>him (the parent) out of the legal question.  If after all of his pleading
>and 'counciling' she still had an abortion, he just said that he wouldn't
>hound her forever or disown her, he would support her.

Again, this just proves that pro-choice comes before anything else and
that the anti-choice movement is just a bunch of BS.

---
Mitch Sako	LSI Logic Corp.		Phone	408-433-4187
internet:	msako@lsil.com		FAX	408-433-8796
uucp:		lsil!msako
RIME:		->REDBARON, conference=POLITICS
Disclaimer:	The opinions expressed are mine and mine alone
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From: caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White)
Subject: Re: Whose Truth? (was Re: Free speech and artistic style at the NEA)
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:13:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.224920.624@pictel.com> harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes:
>To be truly tolerant, one must tolerate not only the fact that another
>believes certain premises, but also the fact that he draws the
>necessary conclusions.  To expect that someone who holds certain
>beliefs deny the necessary conclusions is unreasonable.  You don't have
>to agree with either the premises or the conclusions, but you should be
>willing to accept one who does.

However, one the great laws of Sir Francis Bacon was that we can NEVER know
ALL of the premises. I believe that. There are some things which I believe
which fly in the face of the premises because after prayerful consideration
I believe that we are missing something ... some bit of knowledge critical
to the discussion. Einstein said "Imagination is more important than 
knowledge." The principle is the same. Sometimes we have to go with what we
feel rather than what we know.

Topher
-- 
 Christopher A. White                    |"What's behind the words?
 caw@gtech.com                           | Images they know will please us.
 GTech Corporation, West Greenwich, RI   | I'll take what's real, bring up
 The opions expressed are mine alone     |   the lights." -- Queensryche
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Unofficial Summary for Monday, July 13, 1992
Distribution: world
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Date: 18 Jul 92 13:33:07 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <421@milestn.UUCP> marc@milestn.UUCP (Marc Rassbach) writes:
> In article <1992Jul15.003043.24308@seq.uncwil.edu> session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:
> >|o       Madonna's comment was "I want to throw up" when she heard
> >|that Gore had been chosen as Clinton's running mate.
> >
> >Who cares?
>
> Rush does.  Why?  Becasue Madonna is a 'big name' everyone knows.
>

But if it were Jane Fonda you'd care, right?  Equal time, eh?

> --
> Marc Rassbach     marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu   If you take my advice, that
> MS-DOS - it's not   marc@milestn.mil.wi.us    is your problem, not mine!
> my problem!     If it was said on UseNet, it must be true.
>    Unix - It's a nice place to live, but you don't want to visit there.

--
Author of Amiga GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle,
and Genesis Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
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1124 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos, CA 94024

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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: The depth of Right wing BS
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:16:13 CDT


In article <76360@ut-emx.uucp>, zeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mark Gansle) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.145543.23931@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:
> >	What is going up, as a result of the latest poll, is that fear
> >level among right wingers that Clinton will win. This won't effect the
> >markets as much as it will put a halt to the right wing agenda that
> >has been working its way through the country in recent years. 
> 
> What is also going up is fear among entrepeneurs (you know, those people 
> who create jobs) that Clinton will win and impose his punitive economic plan
> on the business(wo)men of America.  Did anyone besides me notice the fact that,
> when Perot dropped out, stock prices shot up?  And that every time Clinton has
> been announced as leading in the polls, prices have plummetted?

The Wall Street Journal (part of the "liberal" media? :-) had an article
last Monday that compared the stock market performance under Dem & Repub
presidents since 1900.  The market was up 2.5% more under Dems, although 
that is close enought to be statistically the same as the Repubs.  Reagan/
Bush beat Carter 15% to 12%, but if you seperate Reagan's years from Bush's
four, I'm sure that Carter beats Bush.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Naked Gun 2.5
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:28:55 GMT

In article <mykes.0aal@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

  I just saw this movie for the third time - but the first in the last couple
  of years (it seems).  Anyhow, I thouroughly enjoyed the comedy in the movie.
  In particular, there was a scene where Leslie Nielson and Priscilla Presley
  meet for the first time in years at a restaurant.  Nielson makes some comment
  about how she had gone off and gotten involved in the movement to save the
  endzone layer :)  Then he told her how he had spent his life savings to buy
  100,000 acres of Brazilian Rain Forest and had cleared it all away so they
  could build their dream house there.  He said "You think it's easy to move
  whole tribes off your land?" :)  All great jokes.

  And the scene took place in a restaurant that had the glummest (is that
  a real word? :) atmosphere.  The singer was singing the blues, and the
  pictures on the wall depicted great disasters of the last century -
  the Hindenburg in flames, the Titanic sinking, and a picture of Mike
  Dukakis :)  Additionally, there were many many jokes about how bad a shape
  the democratic party was in - one even suggested the party was VERY close
  to self-destruction.

  Seeing how movies tend to reflect society at the time they are filmed,
  this says a lot about how far the Dems have been able to rebound in a
  short time.  It also shows how bad people felt about the party in general.
  Boy do times change?  I say NOT.

And you're not going to take Evil Hollywood to task for its blatant
tastelessness and immorality? 

I take it you enjoyed the references to [body] condoms and safe sex in the
previous movies as well then? Actually, the sex scene in "..The Smell of
Fear" was fairly suggestive too. You don't think it wrecked the morals of
all young people who saw the movie?

L.
"Yeh, Buddy..            | larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)|  _~~_
 I've got your COMPUTER! | % Physical Science Laboratory        | (O)(-)
 Right HERE!!"           | New Mexico State University          |  /..\ 
 (computer THIS!)        | Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA 88003    |   <> 
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Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are CORRECT, mine, and not PSLs or NMSUs..
Because the plot demands.. an EVIL man!
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: EQUITY and Barbara Jordon
Distribution: world
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Date: 25 Jul 92 14:10:58 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Jul25.165344.23162@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:
> In article <mykes.09vv@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>
> >> 	Is there any evidance to link Carter with BCCI, or is this just a
> >> random accusation? I was under the imression that no one had been able
> >> to find any real dirt about that.
> >>
> >
> >Yes there is evidence to link Carter with BCCI.  The investigations are not
> >through, but the information will be made public in the end.  It isn't just
> >carter, but much of his administration that is implicated.  Much todo with
> >Carter's use of the CIA.  This is gonna be a biggie - but note that it wasn't
> >made public before the elections :-)
>
> 	Does this come from anywhere, or is it just wishful thinking on your
> part? I've seen no reports, and I would notice if one when past, so I conclude
> that your privy to some kind of insider information. Either that, or it's
> just more bullshit...
>
> 	Don't be shy, Mike, where does one go to find about about the current
> state of the Carter/BCCI investigation that only you seem to know about?

Alex, your tone sucks.  However, I will answer your questions.  BCCI is being
investigated by congress and there are hearings on C-SPAN from time to time,
as well as other politicians on the committees making speeches.  You can also
see plenty about BCCI on FNN - which is definately a different slant on the
news...  But C-SPAN is unedited, without commentary, etc.  I am just reporting
what I have seen and heard.


>
> --
> Anybody who agrees with me deserves what they get.
>
> 					Alex Crain
> 					UMBC Academic Computing Services

--
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Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
1124 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos, CA 94024

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From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.arts.misc,rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: School Prayer/Moment of Silence
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:56:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul21.150900.27315@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@umbc4.umbc.edu (Alex S. Crain) writes:
>>You are right; however, I have heard of not only "school prayer" (time
>>set aside by the institution to pray) but also "praying in school"
>>being prohibited on several occasions.
>
>	It sounds like what you have heard is propoganda, which is being 
>spread wide and think about the evils of the the separation (of church and 
>state) and how it is forcing hardship on helpless christians.

I'm not sure how this all fits in, but when I went to high school, we
held devotions in the library.  There were probably from 3-6 of us who
would show up in the morning and pray together before school.  (This is
 in the mid-70s.)  

I don't know what happened exactly, but at some point someone complained
and we were forbidden to have them anymore.  I guess it's OK to pray in
school, but not with other people, even if it's not during school hours.
The problem seemed to be that it was on school property.  That doesn't
really make sense, though, because there are chapels (or rooms set
aside as such) in every public city hospital I've been in.  And what
about public universities?  Should they be permitted to allow Christian
(or any other religious) groups to hold meetings and pray, as most 
currently do, or should they be prevented from doing so, as my high
school was? 

There's a lot of ambiguity out there in how true separation of church
and state should work.

--Lauren

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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Quayle on abortion
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:15:43 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

In article <1992Jul24.015312.23522@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sschudt@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan E Schudt) writes:
>
>>> comments about Quayle's support of his daughter having an abortion deleted
>
>For some reason, many parents have this thing called "unconditional love" for 
>their children.  This is the ultimate in "family values."  One may disagree 
>with his child, but that doesn't mean he stops loving her, or "disowns" her.  I
>can't believe how some people are reading into this...

So are you saying the fetus isn't a part of the family yet?   Or that a
parent should only care for their children, but not for their pre-born
grandchildren?

If abortion is murder,  then isn't murdering one's own family the most heinous
crime of all?   And Quayle would support her, even if she chose to commit
the heinous crime of family murder?

>Susan E. Schudt

Tom
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From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The price of freedom
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:04:45 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <nate.371@psygate.psych.indiana.edu> nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
->steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree) writes:
->>nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
->>> The growth of the budget deficit
->>>was just as alarming and out-of-control under Reagon as it's been under
->>>Bush.
->
->>If you index the yearly deficit as a percentage of GNP, it was going DOWN as 
->>reagan left office. Congress's post reagan spending spree and the S and L
->>bailout has caused the yearly deficit to increase substantially as a per-
->>centage of GNP under Bush. 
->
->    Well, maybe it's unfair of me to do so, but I'm still old-fashioned 
->enough to hold Reagon at least partly responsible for the S&L mess. 
->Reagon's deregulation of the S&L's created a really neato short-term 
->economic growth pattern which made Reagon's statistics look better as
->he left office ("Golden Parachute"?), but I hope we would agree that 
->the deregulation of the S&L's was not one of Reagon's most successful
->policies?

 I think both partys were responsible for creating the situation. Yes,
Reagan was partially responsable.  
 Whats really sad is that the Fourth Estate is saying that all the S and L
bailout money is going to the greedy rich 80's type. So are they saying
that the middle class and poor people with savings under 100,000 dollars 
are greedy rich 80's types ? Why are the democrates complaints about paying
out insurance claims more intense then private insurance companies ?

->Many Republicans invoke the name of Jimmy Carter as though he were the 
->devil incarnate, but when it comes to the mud that ought to be sticking 
->to their fair-haired boy it seems like they develope a case of selective
->color-blindness.
 
  I was a democrat when Carter was elected. He made me a republican.
 You think its bad now, try getting a job back when the misery index
 was over 20. 

  Steve Tyree - These opinions are mine and mine alone.
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From: szabo@techbook.com (Nick Szabo)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.arts.misc,rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Judgmentalism (was Re: Whose Truth?)
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:09:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Jul25.090952.9351
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 644-8135

In article <1992Jul20.232016.4623@pictel.com> harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes:

>While the rulings may change, the reality stays the same.  Jesus was
>very clear that lust is as sinful as adultery, and both separate you
>from God.  That is, ultimately, the definition of sin.  Making such a
>distinction may do more harm than good.a

The sort of hair-splitting in this debate may be one of the main reasons
for the decline of Christianity.  It completely misses the point of
_why_ adultery is a sin, and thus loses a powerful relevence to today's
society.


-- 
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