From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:56:43 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Aug26.061525.15226@cs.brown.edu> wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.120407.13511@u.washington.edu> yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi) writes:
>>
>>From MY standpoint, there was and IS no diplomatic and business
>>opportunities in North Korea presently (diplomatically, no, because ties with
>>China and business opportunities such as investment, maybe, depending on who
>>you're talking to). Therefore, your original statement sounded like revenge
>>against the S. Korean government or Taiwan recieved an insult from ROK 
>>therefore "treating ROK as they treated you". And, since if this were the
>>case, people would believe that you thought the ROC was not given an "equal"
>>position when ROK terminated ROC diplomatic connections, which I and many
>>other people would argue to be incorrect. However, I do not oppose the 
>>Taiwanese government if she believes the DPRK is a genuine investment 
>>opportunity, therefore handing over the embassy space to trade officials from
>>DPRK. However, this seems unlikely, and the embassy space is probably intended
>>for diplomatic duties only and trade duties somewhere else, therefore bringing
>>me to my first accusation.
>
>
>This reminds me of somethings when Taiwanese are dealing with Koreans.
>During the past five years, Koreans have been forcing Taiwan to
>buy Korean-made cars in quantity above X dollars. They promised
>to buy car parts and fruits from Taiwan for at least Y dollars,
>where X is much larger than Y. But the Koreans never standed
>to their words when Taiwanese did buy at least that many cars promised.
>Finally, deputy Minister of Economy Wang Chien-Shuen got mad and stopped
>all such unfair trade. The Koreans solved this by pressuring the diplomatic
>channel and ROC government gave in. It's a shame to Taiwan just to keep
>the fragile relation with Korea these days.
>
>The anti-Korean emotions are not without reasons: Taiwanese are just
>getting fed up with such kind of stupid things.
>
>Now our *self-claimed* good friends want us to stay calm and keep us
>from N. Koreans? Get real! Note that
>
>   1. S. Korea had never been a good trade partner.
>   2. S. Korea had ->0 influences in our existence as a country.
>      If you were Japanese or Americans, your arguments can
>      possibly be valid. 
>   3. Mr. Choi's arguments fully reflected the average Korean
>      behaviors to Taiwan and we just accept and *ignore* them.
>   4, Whether we confiscate the S. Korean embassy in Taipei or
>      not is not any of your business.

You are quite general aren't you? Your statement regarding the "average
Korean" is quite offensive, but no big deal, since such personal attacks
are usually known to be irrational to everyone reading this thread.

I do not understand what you mean by "behaviors TO Taiwan.." in #3.
I was clearly stating that I do not see any prospects for business currently
in North Korea for Taiwanese investors to grab ahold of. Therefore, since
diplomatic ties are out of the question since N. Korea is a friend of the PRC,
I do not see any reason for giving the embassy to North Korea.

However, I DID say that I cannot argue AGAINST a government's own opinions
on business opportunities, therefore, a trade/commerce relationship between
the DPRK and ROC could be established, thus using the old ROK embassy 
building. This opinion that I hold has been repeated by me many times in 
the previous post.

All of these statements were made in my previous post, and I do not see why
you are so angry, since it is all logical.

>So, sell your damn good Hyundai cars to China as many as possible.
>Anyway, we've got GM  and Honda in Taiwan, and we don't need 
>inferior products.

You are getting personal, and it is illogical, irrelevent, and irrational,
and downright stupid. I advise you stay out of the original discussion.

>
>
>
>Wen-Chun Ni


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