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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:30:57 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Album Covers

My favorite album cover is ....Layla i'd like a framed print of this for
christmas.....If you need my address let me know

My favorite name for a band was "Free Roast Beef", they would pack the place
the sign outside read "Tonight: Free Roast Beef" ..............L.W.
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Glass and Christmas music (not related!!! Ugh, what a thought! )
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:52:13 GMT

I am not going to have any favorite Christmas album until I hear a
12-tone Christmas music album.

the serial beer...
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From: MICHAEL.WILLETT@office.wang.com ("Michael Willett")
Subject: CONCERT: Mezzo-soprano Teri Medley Expands Caroling at Boston Ritz-Carlton [USA]
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:31:54 GMT

In view of the enthusiastic response to the Teri Medley Christmas Caroling
at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Boston, the Ritz-Carlton, Boston's leading
luxury hotel, has dramatically expanded their Caroling schedule.  The
revised and expanded schedule is posted below:

Leading mezzo-soprano Teri Medley, currently under contract with the
New York City Opera, headlines a group of Christmas Carolers at Boston's
prestigious Ritz-Carlton hotel, located at the corner of Newbury Street
and Arlington Street in Back Bay.  She has recently completed a number
of engagements with leading symphonies around the US.  Formerly a
soprano when she studied voice at Oberlin just after Cheryl Studer,
Medley is now singing mezzo roles as her voice has become richer,
fuller, and deeper.  The Caroling marks Medley's last scheduled
appearances in Boston before the start of the New York City Opera
"Carmen" tour.

The expanded Christmas Caroling schedule (subject to change) is now:

December
11th   Friday:     12:00--1:30       8:30--9:30
12th   Saturday:                     7:00--8:00
13th   Sunday:     11:30-12:30
                    1:00--2:00
17th   Thursday:    4:00--5:00       6:30--7:30
18th   Friday                        6:30--7:30
                                     8:00--9:00
19th   Saturday    12:30--1:30       5:00--6:00
20th   Sunday      11:30-12:30       6:00--7:00
23rd   Wednesday                     5:30--6:30
                                     7:00--8:00
24th   Thursday     4:00--5:00       6:00--7:00
25th   Friday, Christmas Day --Times Not Yet Scheduled

The Teri Medley Christmas Carolers sing in the six key
locations in the hotel, including the various bars, clubs,
restaurants, and lobby.

Newcomers to the Ritz-Carlton may also wish to view the
hotel's extensive art collection on display.

Convenient parking is available on Newbury Street across from
the hotel, and also in the Boston Common parking garage near the
hotel.  Call 617-536-5700 for further information or reservations.

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com

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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Acid Jazz
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:38:19 GMT

I don't know if I heard that, I might have on a radio show, if it is
what I remember it to be, it didn't make any impression on me.

For what its worth, most people I have heard comment on it say that
acid jazz is neither.

Jeff
From: frenkel@CUCIS.CIS.COLUMBIA.EDU (Tom Frenkel)
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Subject: Rick Danko album
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:17:52 GMT
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I came across a reference to a solo Rick Danko album (Arista, 1977)
entitled simply "Rick Danko".  Seems to be out of print, at least in USA.
Does anyone have an idea of where I could get a copy ... preferably on
cassette?

Oh BTW ... I heard a rumor recently that The Band (or what's left of it)
might get back together again.  Does anyone have confirmation?

Thanks...   Tom (frenkel@cucis.cis.columbia.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:53:47 EST
From:         Michael <EVK102@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Vinyl vs Tape vs. CD vs...

Greetings from the greatest little state in the union...

I haven't been posting very long, so I don't really know if this topic has
already been overdone several times (a repeated redundancy), but here goes.
I have been reading comments from several artists (Zappa, etc.) regarding
digital.  In a nutshell, they say it completely sucks.  Apart from CD's
being a complete ripoff in some stores (17.99 for some plastic, aluminum, and
paper?!?!) does anyone have any comments regarding the actual sound quality
of digital vs. tape vs. vinyl? I think that the quality of a CD is greatly
altered by the player (not just a little.)  Other than that, I don't really
have any comments, besides the fact that some of my DDD CD's sound completely
empty.  Any comments?

- Michael

"I got a blank tape at the store and I popped it in my tape deck, and turned
it up really loud.  I heard a knock at my door.  It was a mime, complaining
about the music.  I shot him ... with a silencer." - Steven Wright
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Date: 11 Dec 92 19:05:59 GMT
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In article <ALLMUSIC%92121112024182@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET> writes:
>On Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:29:48 EST Michael H. Bloom said:
>>
>>I thought it was a major milestone in the decline of the West when I heard
>>the sneaker commercial with the Beatles' "Revolution" in it. There's an
>>issue on which Michael Jackson deserves to fry in Hell.
>
>I think Paul Macartney deserves the same fate for letting M.J. outbid him
>P.M. could afford it, If you could afford it would you let someone buy
>your songs and do what they want with them. They're Michael's songs now
>he can do with them want he wants...M.J. showed business savvy if nothing else
>the former Beatles showed lack of respect for their own music IMHO. M.J. did
>no worse than Carly Simon, Eric Clapton.....and countless others....L.W.

As much bread as Paul has, if it got down to it, I don't think he could
have competed with M.J.  I don't know how close to his limit he bid, but
M.J. could always go higher.  Paul is a do-do for putting the idea in
MJ's head in the first place.  And Lennon didn't have that much money
when he died.

The real culprit was the system which routinely forced young lads like
Paul and John to sign up for a publishing company of which they had no
control.  From the beginning, John and Paul never had more than 50% 
control over Lennon & McCartney.  They were always minority owners. 

Jeff
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:24:34 -0500
From:         mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: The deluge part 2: gurls in bands

Jeff writes...

>On the issue of female musicians, she is distinctly anti-feminist.  She
>was intervewed by someone who was going to make a book on women jazz
>musicians, and her first response was "why would anyone want to do
>that?"  When they try pin it on how hard it is for women to make it in
>the music business, she will have nothing to do with it.  She seems to have a
>built in thick head on ignoring that.  For instance, she will say, "my
>band members said there were hecklers telling me to do the dishes, but I
>didn't hear them"

Actually, her view point really isn't anti feminist, if it's as you
describe above. It is actually quite feminist to believe that a book about
jazz women is pointless. I'm sure she would have no problem with being
included in a book about jazz musicians in general....

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:28:35 EST
From:         Jake <ST102315@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: punk rock stuff

>I think I'd prefer chowder, actually, or maybe some catfish stew, or some
>she-crab soup.  And with that, he stomped off with a nautical gate.

A nautical gate?  A NAUTICAL GATE?  Say no more!

I've walked off with some sea-going entranceways before, but...

Wink, wink, nudge, nudge,
jwgh

PS.  Christmas season is the most stressful time of the year.  Or had
you already guessed that?
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:52:15 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Digital vs. Tape vs. Vinyl

On Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:39:12 CST Paul Heroy said:
>that recording musical digitally intrinsically filters out emotion is just
>plain stupid. The human ear is much more similar to a digital system than any
>analog system, for crying out loud. As someone noted, Zappa certainly doesn't
>seem to have a problem with putting his music on CD, so why doesn't he put his
>money where his mouth is and refuse to issue CD's, since they are obviously a
>contamination of his music.

I'm not a big Zappa fan, but i do know he's belongs to the "upper-crust" as far
as music goes, and I don't think he would really mean what he said, he could've
been mis-quoted or just didn't think b4 he spoke , it happens to us all
I think i've even spoke/posted b4 thinking so don't be hard on Zappa....L.W.
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:23:32 -0500
From:         jkh2001@ANDY.BGSU.EDU
Subject:      Fond Farewell

Ladies and Gentlemen,
        Well, this is it.  The end of four and a half years of my life.
I'm on my way out the door to take my last exam of my college career.
Tomorrow I will graduate and close another chapter in my own personal
history.  Unfortunately, this also means that I lose my access to the net
and will be forced to sign off later today.
        I just wanted to say thank you to all of you for providing me with
humor, musical knowledge, and friendship.  Where will I go now if I want to
about any kind of music or hear silly jokes about Elmer Fudd and Madonna?
I'm going to miss all of you.

OMC:  Does anyone out there know the lyrics to their alma mater?

King Jeremy the Wicked (who graduates tomorrow)
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From:         "OUT,
              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      My childhood music

Hi all,
        I think I should throw my 2p in the discussion about childhood music.
Many messages I found this morning were quite long and interesting, whereas
mine is hyper-short (and possibly uninteresting :) ).

        My parents didn't listen to music that much. My father had an old
but faithful stereo set, and most of the records were instrumental pieces
by more-or-less big bands. Mostly american stuff, I assume. The only vocal
records I remember about were two Sinatra album.

        My first purchase was weird. I loved music very much (and I still
do -- my longest relationship ever!), and one day I asked my father to buy
me a record of a song I would often hear on the radio. It was "Lady Madonna"
by the Beatles. I have a very vivid memory of that record -- with the Parlo-
phone brand, and I lost it only some 5 years ago. What is really weird is
that it was 1968, and therefore... I was three.
        I swear this is true. And, of course, I got "Come Together" next
year :).

        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:26:18 CST
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      That darned "Silent Night"

OK, here's a description of it.  The soprano sings (it's in C)

         Si-i-lent Night
          G  A G    E

and on Night, the tenor or alto sings (in the same rhythm) B C B A.

And on Sleep in heavenly peace, the chords are:
         G7              Am E7

It's simply wonderful, and I'd love to find out who arranged it.
Any clues?
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:21:32 EST
From:         MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET
Subject:      re: Bossanova quandary

Sinead doing "How Insensitive"? Probably sounded intensely
autobiographical..
MWM
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:43:16 EST
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Vinyl vs Tape vs. CD vs...

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:53:47 EST Michael said:
>
>I think that the quality of a CD is greatly
>altered by the player (not just a little.)  Other than that, I don't really
>have any comments, besides the fact that some of my DDD CD's sound completely
>empty.  Any comments?
>
Some artists (Bonnie Raitt comes immediately to mind) have taken to doing the
actual recording in analog (i.e. ADD) for this very reason.  Apparently, they
feel that the noise that analog equipment introduces produces a "warmer"
ambience in the recording.

-Scott "I Can't Hear the Difference, Myself" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Subject: unsubscribe
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Date: 16 DEC 92 21:06:53 GMT

The subject says it all,  Please help me to unsubscribe................................................................................
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:54:43 EST
From:         IQM253@URIACC.URI.EDU
Subject:      Re: Mr. Bungle

I wanna lock Betty Crocker in the kitchen
knock her upper during
hostess ding dong with an eggroll wrapped around my wong
while dolly madison preceded to ping my pong
m&m in my britches is looking mighty delicious
keep blowing my gum cause here i cum
gonna get you all sticky with my bubble yum
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:53:31 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: President-elect Clinton fails the ALLMUSIC taste test

BTW, over on JAZZ-L we had kinda given Mr. Bill our unofficial endorsement,
and this distasteful scandal (before he's even inaugurated, yet!) is going
to cost him that. Traitor.

On Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:40:22 EST Kimberly Wasilewski said:
>I mean, after you get by Michael Bolton's hair, he is a very good singer.  I

I disagree - I'd say that he has a very good voice, but that is a completely
different thing than being a good *singer*. Bob Dylan has a lousy voice, but
is a better singer. Everything I've heard by Bolton seems to be in an 'over
the top', histrionic style. Like your average metal guitarist, there seems to
be an attitude that more volume = more emotional depth. Pttthhhbtt. Go listen
to some Billie Holiday.

> What do you think a 40 or so man would listen to....

What LW and Rev. Bob said.

Paul Heroy
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:16:52 EST
From:         MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: The deluge part 2: gurls in bands

Hoo boy, happy hornet's nest:
Jeff, are saying that Carla somehow does not have the right to take
the stance that she does? From what I know of Carla Bley, I would
think that it is not naivete which makes her scorn politics (feminist
and otherwise), but commitment to what she is doing.
  You and I may not make such a vision our own, and may have an easy time
seeing all the things it leaves out; but is she truly unentitled to it?
Please don't understand these remarks to be some soapsud version of
Dingbat Relativism. But I think that respecting Carla Bley's tremendous
accomplishments as a musician and as a human being--entrepreneur, role
model, and much more--embraces respect for her right to her views. Don't you?
Cordially,
Michael
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Subject:      Re: Newbie Spamfest (was RE: playing records w

Date sent:  14-DEC-1992 15:40:48
>From:  IN%"ALLMUSIC@AUVM.BITNET"  "Discussions on all forms of Music"  8-DEC-19
   92 20:11:16.31
>To:    IN%"BEHR5606@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"  "Behr 5606", IN%"SHEP3686@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
   "  "CHRIS SHEPPARD", IN%"TRIC6536@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"  "Vincenzo A. Tricozzi", I
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   ron Williams"
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>
>>Listen my man I'm not 100% sure how to use this damn list.  I'm really
>>sorry if I cost you money but I get it for free so go die.
>
>  Well here's an idea - next time you sit down, and
>those extra three or four neurons you use for walking
>are freed up, why don't you take a minute or two to
>figure it out, instead of typing in a smart ass response?
>
>  Just trying to be helpful.
>
>                            -Tim

Thanks for trying to be helpful Timmy.  You know those extra three or four
neurons I use for walking are always freed up cause I'm confined to a
wheelchair.  I'll try and figure it though.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:52:41 CST
From:         Leonard Watkins <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Softens heads while you do dishes!

On Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:29:48 EST Michael H. Bloom said:
>
>I thought it was a major milestone in the decline of the West when I heard
>the sneaker commercial with the Beatles' "Revolution" in it. There's an
>issue on which Michael Jackson deserves to fry in Hell.

I think Paul Macartney deserves the same fate for letting M.J. outbid him
P.M. could afford it, If you could afford it would you let someone buy
your songs and do what they want with them. They're Michael's songs now
he can do with them want he wants...M.J. showed business savvy if nothing else
the former Beatles showed lack of respect for their own music IMHO. M.J. did
no worse than Carly Simon, Eric Clapton.....and countless others....L.W.

>Speaking personally, if I never hear "Johnny B. Goode" again it'll be too soon.
>Why don't people play "No Particular Place to Go" more often? Or "Havana Moon?"
couldn't agree more they're ought to be a law against B. Goode and Proud Mary

BTW John Hammond covers Nadine on his new album....nice album for the blues
inclined......................L.W.
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:35:00 EST
From:         WERT7176@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: punk rock stuff

Date sent:  14-DEC-1992 15:21:56
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>
>WERT said:
>
>>Doesn't anybody listen to hardcore/punk?  God the shit you people listen to
>>would make me kill myself.
>
>Hey loosen up pal! You might learn something...I'll bet most of the people who
>listen to what you consider "wienie" music on this list (I assume you mean
>classical, jazz, folk, entire musical spectrums you've never even considered
>listening to, etc.) know far more about punk, hard core, grunge, et al than
>you ever will...
>
>Yeah, I followed the punk scene for a bit...My faves to come out of it are
>Siouxie and the Banshees. The amazing thing is that they are still around
>today and making excellent tunes (check out the recently released _Twice Upon
>A Time_).
>
>Bob Tee

Dearest Bob,
    I never called classical, jazz, folk, etc. "wienie" music Bobby.  I
simply stated that the stuff you people listen to (for the most part) would
make me kill myself.  Also I don't just listen to punk/hardcore it just
happens to be my favorite.  You followed the punk scene for a bit?  What
punk scene did you follow, the punk scene at the mall with the 10 doller
tapes and 15 doller cd's.  I hate to inform you but Siouxie ain't punk, at
least she ain't no more.  Her punkness ended when she signed her name on
the dotted line and started exploiting, exploiting away.  God it must be
great to be a rich "punk".  I really don't think the majority of the people
on this list know more about punk or hardcore than myself, although if
there is someone out there please enlighten me with your wisdom.

All praise to Lord Krishna,
Stylee

"hardcore isn't music for the weak minded, it's a lifestyle for the strong"
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:06:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Velvet down Underground

Spotted a strange one at the local CD store on my lunch hour:  _Velvet
down Underground_.  It's a remake of _The Velvet Underground and Nico_,
all the songs in the same order as on the original, done by various
Australian bands I never heard of.  One of the stranger marketing gimmicks
I've seen.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:42:32 EST
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Newbie Spamfest [PMRC Rated R]

Mr Professor says:
>   Did I kill you or kill someone close to you.  God, by the sound of your
>letter it would seem your quite unhappy with me....

  Whoa!  I thought you were the same brain-dead shit who
said "I just love to piss people off" in an earlier post.
This wasn't the sort of reaction you were wiggling in your
seat waiting for?  I'm just trying to make your day.  Maybe
you wanted me to pinch your cheek and tousle your hair and
quip "ain't he a precocious little devil?"  Yeah, and who
were you calling part of the shopping mall disaffected?
Oh, but right - you separated yourself from the posers.
You're concerned about hunger and the environment and
stuff.  You can talk like a thesaurus about bands you
listen to for their obscurity.  And you're a "fuck the
world" rebel hot shot, until someone says "fuck you" back.
  Yeah, really goddamn impressive.  Glad to have you
and your English teacher with us.

  What the hell, it is the christmas season - here are
a couple of ideas:  if you want to hear about hardcore,
talk about hardcore.  if you want to piss people off,
don't be a crybaby about the responses you get.  Keep
the change, man.

                       -Tim
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