From: opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: hallmark of truth
Date: 3 Jan 93 14:21:39 GMT
Organization: Turku School Of Economics
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In article <9301021953.AA01606@feds46.Prime.COM> Mark Markish x2799,
mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM writes:
>Has keeping up with the others become a Universal Hallmark of Truth
>under the New World Order, or this is simply your local reckoning down
>there in Abo? Or, maybe, it's not the others, but Lenin that matters?
>
>In any case, what is the logic of thanking God for this? You cannot
>have it both ways; this used to be well known in Finland and elsewere.

The New World Order is that of Western/American etc.. or we tend
to think so. Protestantism and Catholic counterreforms modernized
European thinking so that industrial and commercial progress was
possible.

Free trade (GATT) arguments and a wide use of WW2 winners
(Anglo-Americans) crushes other cultures/unifies world
(re Francis Fukuyama: "The End Of History" (don't if it is
exactly this in English)).

Russians missed the start (religious reforms), because they
had to establish autocracy against domestic heterogenity and
outside threath. (Catherine II the Great) Liberalism, capitalism
and freedom almost torn Russia in 1905/1917-22. Therefore
one party regime was to REPLACE weakened rule of the czars.

One marks of the unsynchronized Russian practise is that of
Julianian (according to an East-Rome emperor Julianus) calen-
dar with differs from that of Gregorian (West-Rome emperor
Gregorius).

One netter said in Orthodox spirit that it was a Bolsevist
crime. For a reactionary Russian nationalist, who is allied
with x-commies against Yeltsin democrates/liberalizers/
westerners/zapadniks even every sensible reform made by
is considered Bolsevistic crime/bad/stupidity.

Great Russian nationalists do not admit that Leninism was a
post-feudal project to preserve land from western capitalists,
which was not possible any more for the czars, so that
communists are/were successors of crazism. Czar was replaced
by collective political committee of CPSU, politburo and czar-
nominated executing power was replaced by party-nominated.
Leninism was a successful way to re-establish old rule NOT to
destroy it!  Also the communists deny their ancestors - czars
and czarist bureacrats.

Democracy existed Russia only in 1917 from spring to autumn.
It was so revolutionary, that Russia could not stand it.

My postulate is: Russian federation and democracy in Russia can not
exist simultaneously. Either Russia will be split like China in the end
of 19th century or Russia must consolidate power by deminishing
democracy. Also China did not succeed in establishing capitalism.
Japan and European great powers tried to split it. Kuomingtang tried
to handle situation, but only commies succeeded in consolidating the
central power by rejecting freedom.

USA-type democracy is impossible, because of lacking influence of
integrating market forces. The integrator of Russia will still be a
bureacracy, which can not tolerate too much freedom needed to
create market system. Freedom needed for entrepreneural purposes
will be used for bloody nationalism, so that benefits of it are still
questionable.

Life in Czarist Russia is often made sound nice! It was not for
the most developed nations in the Russian Empire. 

This argument is used only for the political purposes by saying that
centuries of stagnation is ONLY reason for Russians backwardness.
This misleads Westerners to forget minority questions and unsuccessfull
policies centuries ago.

In case democrates are going too far too fast we'll see anybody crying:
"Something incredible has happened in OUR century! NObody could believe
it beforehand!" Mass unemployment, no social security, collapse of sop-
histicated capital-intensive industries, collapse of natural scientic
research....., may make folks ignorant to democracy.

Would you like to have bread to your child or would you like to have
democracy?

BTW Russian democrates are anticommunists because they are
ex-Communists, so that there is no fair democracy on either sides.

Between anticommunists and communists democracy do not exist!
It can be achieved after one or two generations of stabile (not neces-
sarily ultrademocratic) development.


Olli-Jukka Paloneva

PS Abo is a Swedish word for the city of Turku. In English we use Turku,
      because it can be seen in English maps too.

PPS I am using the VAX of Abo (Swedish) Academy.

PPPS 
					USA is a secular country. Why it is said in dollar In God We Trust!
				 I noticed in x-USSR that those who believed in dollar had dollars
         and those who obeyed law and/or believed in God did not have
them!
 
PPPPS So much for democracy in Russia!