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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:51:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.052608.17922@wam.umd.edu> rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.032244.6133@fcom.cc.utah.edu> yf5990@u.cc.utah.edu (Yan Fang/Humanities) writes:
>>As far as why they would port NeXTSTEP to Pentium rather than to sexy
>			  ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
>
>	And that was *exactly* the right thing for them to do.  
>	But releasing software for a hardware platform is not necessarily
>	tied to NeXT releasing the hardware platform themselves.
>
>	Point:  There is no way that NeXT can compete in the 	
>	Intel based PC market.  I would be surprised if they 	
>	could offer prices competitive with the systems IBM 
>	and compaq are shipping these days, let alone the
>	Death Clones (tm) coming in from everywhere.

They wouldn't be competing with clones.  A NeXT box based on Pentium
would be very different from a Pentium PC.  Just as Amigas,
Macintoshes, and NeXT's are all different.  Sequent and Scitex put out
boxes with 486's in them and they don't compete at all with PC's.

There's way more to a machine than a chip.


andrew
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From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: IR toolkit
Organization: SMU - School of Engineering & Applied Science - Dallas
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:55:29 GMT

I recently lost the person's email address who created the IR toolkit, a thing
that hangs of the DSP port that "learns" most infrared remote control 
commands.  It seems that the address I had for the person, post@ims-ilmenau.de
is invalid.  The other address uwe_granzow@dart.de bounces.  Does anyone
how I can contact the author.  Also, has anyone used this product?

David
dleon@seas.smu.edu

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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: NS486 Confusion - Some answers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:13:45 GMT

athomson@otago.ac.nz (Alastair Thomson) writes:

>16 Bit Color System Support:

>Graphics Adapters - In order to provide adequate performance and  
>Color Quality, NeXTSTEP 486 requires High Performance "Workstation"  
>style Graphics Adapters. Many new Graphics Systems are being  
>introduced that meet these requirements, they include Intel JAWS  
>(such as DELL Processor-Direct Graphics), Chips and Technologies  
>Wingine, and certain Local Bus Graphics adapters. Depending upon the  
>size of available VRAM (Video RAM) resolutions of 800x600, 1024x768,  
>1120x832 and 1280x1024 will be supported. Graphics Adapters designed  
>for EISA based PC's are available (such as Compaq QVision 1024/E and  
>ATI Graphics Ultra Pro) or being developed, these are currently being  
>evaluated for performance and may provide an easy upgrade for  
>existing EISA PC's.

Can someone authoritatively tell me:
Will I be able to buy a video card that will run NS486 in Color that
plugs into a VESA Local Bus slot?
I am about to buy a 486 machine and this makes a big difference.  I
do not need to buy an EISA machine if I buy a machine with 3 Local
Bus slots: One for an ATI Ultra Pro, one for a 32-bit hard drive
adaptor, and one for a future product (maybe Ethernet). I would
almost accept being told 'We're not sure that it will run with the
ATI Local Bus card, BUT we can tell you that VESA Local Bus is fast
enough and some card will exist that will make it run, like JAWS'.
Anyone want to comment on this plan?


>Additional Device Support:

>Disk Interfaces - Both IDE and SCSI Hard Disk Interfaces will be  
>supported. SCSI adapters from Adaptec and DPT (for both ISA and EISA)  
>will be supported, with more to follow.

Someone in a different thread was worried that IDE would not be
supported.  Hopefully Local Bus IDE controllers will be supported!
 
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From: dmarks@thor.ece.uc.edu (Dallas J. Marks)
Subject: 486 System from NeXT
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:01:19 GMT

As a prospective future NeXT buyer, I called 1-800-TRY-NeXT in response
to their $11.00 video offer (A couple of issues back in InfoWorld).
After ordering the videos, the telephone operator asked me if I wanted
information about NeXT's new 486 system.  I said yes, but haven't
received the videos, nor the information.

My guess is a cheap 486 system with the introduction of NeXTSTEP 486
(after the bugs in 3.0 are ironed out) followed by a multiprocessor
Pentium model that hopefully kicks some silicon butt and puts the hardware
issue to rest.

Anybody else order the videos?

Dallas J. Marks

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From: ice@socrates.umd.edu (Fredrik Nyman)
Subject: Expert set fonts questions
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:01:09 GMT

I'm wondering a little about how the expert set fonts work,
particularly with respect to ligatures.

Suppose you have a font that does not have ligatures, e.g.
vanilla Adobe Garamond.  Exactly what happens when I install
the "Expert Set" which *does* contain ligatures?  Is the
expert set a separate font as far as the NeXT is concerned,
or will the Adobe Garamond character set become "extended" with
the glyphs defined in the Expert Set font file?

Also, do all/most/some of the NeXT text processing support
ligatures?  Will, for example, WriteNow, WP and FrameMaker
print the /ffl glyph if it exists in the chosen character set,
or will they cop out and print the glyphs f, f, and l?

Thanks,
Fredrik
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From: flog@bernina.ethz.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: Lack of color brilliance in GIF pictures?
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:44:31 GMT

If I compare the color brillance of GIF prictures on a NeXT 16bit system 
and a Sun 8 bit display the Sun is much more brillant. This is not a 
monitor problem for sure. I'm using ImageViewer. 

Who has similar experience ?

-Florian
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From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Reassigning command key equivalents without editing .nib ??
To: antoine@osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: University of California, Irvine
	<1992Dec14.140113.18803@cerberus.ulaval.ca>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:57:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.140113.18803@cerberus.ulaval.ca> antoine@osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes:
   In article <CEDMAN.92Dec13125505@capitalist.nts.uci.edu>  
   cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
   |=|dwrite NewsGrazer NXCommandKeys "Help...,.,Next,.,Previous,., \
   |=|Next with subject,.,Previous with subject,.,Posts in Progress...,., \
   |=|Followup to post,.,Reply by mail,.,Filter Author,.,Filter Subject,., \
   |=|Filter Account,.,Show article...,.,Sort by title,.,Sort by number,., \
   |=|Record read articles,.,NewsFolders...,M,Mark articles read,y"
   |=|
   |=|Tested under 2.x and 3.0.
   |=|
   |=|        Carl Edman

   Ok, can you explain what this does? thks

I hoped that this was deducible from the question it answered, but I
can certainly explain it too.

What this dwrite does is to reassign the command key equivalents of
Newsgrazer menu items. As the case happens to be I really don't like
many of the command key equivalents in Newsgrazer as I rarely use
those items, but the equivalents collide with services menu items
which I frequently use. I used to hack the nib file every time there
was a new release of Newsgrazer, but in the long run that got to be
too much of a hassle, so I decided to use the dwrite instead.
Unfortunately I do not believe that there is a way to actually cause a
menu item which already has a command key equivalent to have none. So
instead I assigned the same unusual command key equivalent to all
unwanted menu items. So in this particular case, the menu items
"Help...", "Next", aso. upto "Record read articles..." all have the
command key equivalent command-. now. "NewsFolders..." got command-M
and "Mark articles read" got command-y.

Clear enough ?

        Carl Edman

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From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: Good NeXT ps font collection loaded to sonata!
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:45:04 GMT

In article <OTTO.92Dec14184942@tukki.jyu.fi> otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)  
writes:
> I've uploaded this PostScript font collection to sonata.cc.purdue.edu,
> directory /pub/next/submissions/Font

These should be approved pretty soon and moved over to graphics/fonts.

ab
From: 946753@arniew.llnl.gov (Arnie Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:29:17 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Lab

I woul be glad to upgrade my SUN IPC with the NeXT STEP operating system.  It has
all the basic equipment need to be a NeXT system, However I will need to find a
supplier of the proper color Black spray paint. 

 Please Mr Jobs where ever you are just tell me how much it will cost and how many 
will I need to order to get a SUN IPC to NeXT station software upgrade kit.
From: cjp+@pitt.edu (Casimir J Palowitch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT in The Economist
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:56:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1gt9jnINNb49@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.175154.1144@hot.com> Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:
>>This week's Economist has an article on NeXT.  It discusses NeXT's  
>>history, object-orientation. NeXTSTEP 486, and more.  Be sure to check it  
>>out.
>What issue was this?  ie.  What is the Volume & Issue #?
> RWW.


Economist. V. 325 N. 7789 12/12/92 p. 74-75


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**      Slavic Cataloger         -  of computer professional : those  **
**  U. of Pgh. Library Systems   -       who know NeXT, and those     **
**   cjp@unix.cis.pitt.edu       -              without Jobs.         **
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From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Subject: RIB examples
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:16:51 GMT

Anyone want to NeXT mail some RIB files to me?
Thanks!
Eric
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HOWTO: move windows w/o making key or ordering front
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:52:35 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Dec20.101130.1723@qb.rhein-main.de> vhs@rhein-main.de writes:
> making the line 
> > 		7 index 7 index 6 index
> read
> > 		9 index 9 index 7 index
> seems to me like incrementing 6 only by one instead of by two.


I noticed the same thing and changed the 6 to 8 instead of 7
It seems to work, so I assume it was just a typo.
I didnt try 7.

It works great and also try alt-double click (to get the old behavior of alt-click)
on a title bar. (bring to front but dont change key)
alt-doubleclick and drag works too.
so you get new features without losing any old ones.
it sure makes reorganizing windows alot easier.

> Please clear this up. I won't dare change my WindowServer before
> I know what's going on here.

I wouldnt worry too much, obviously save the previous windowserver package
so if theres a problem you can boot single server and revert.
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:00:46 EST
From: <NLF102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
 <1992Dec16.150405.613@pencom.com>

  I've read all the posts on the NeXT RISC workstation and the rumor of the
new processor that NeXT wants to use.  I have come to this conclusion:
  The chip should:
    1.  Be available from multiple vendors.
    2.  Be fast enough to replace the DSP and compression chips.
    3.  Be expandable, ie able to plug another processor in and have them
        work in parallel.
    4.  I don't know what SuperScalar means, but it seems like a good
        feature to have in a processor.
    5.  And finally, not be so expensive that it drives the prices of NeXTs
        even higher.
  Being a student at Penn State, I don't have much money.  However, I KNOW
that the NeXT is the best computer in the world, and I must get one someday.
However, I have watched the prices of NeXTs go up and up with no reason.  Not
only that but they are dropping the best machines for entry-level users like
me:  The non-Turbo, 8MB systems.  Oh sure, they'll run slow, but let me
worry about that.  Don't take away my freedom of choice and drive me away
by raising prices.

There, that's my two cents worth.
Nate  :)
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From: chuck@pierre.mit.edu (Chuck Parsons)
Subject: GNUPLOT under 3.0
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:20:00 GMT

  I brought this up several months ago when I first got my NeXT.
I never got a fix, though I did get help for several other 
problems in my post. 

  Has anyone gotton GNUPLOT to compile under 3.0?  I'm having
trouble in the term module. Specifically, some of the NeXTStep
headers (in appkit) with constructs like

    somtheing = (id<NXDraggingInfo>) something else 

refuse to compile. The compiler complains about not being able
to find the ")" after the (id.  Random attemps to trivially change the 
syntax (in hopes that it is only a parser bug), like adding spaces 
do not work. I suspect some knowledge of object oriented c programming
might help. 

 Thanks in advance for any help,

Regards, chuck@pierre.mit.edu 


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From: tsubaki@srisa.strategic.CO.JP (Katsumi Tsubaki)
Subject: Re: NRW- coming soon
Organization: SRI Corp., Tokyo, Japan
	<1992Dec16.132918.8472@cyantic.com>
	<SCHELL.92Dec16132649@gauss.ece.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:38:42 GMT

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From: dcode@netcom.com (Paul Marcos)
Subject: Move windows w/o making key or ordering front!!!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:27:12 GMT

I didn't recall where the discussion took place, so sorry if you 
read this post twice.  

A while back there was a somewhat heated discussion regarding whether
you could (and should) be able to move a window without making it 
come to front and be key.  You could already move it without making 
it become the key window, but it always came to front.  

Well thanks to the person that posted the "NXSnapToIconsToGrid" trick
(sorry, I didn't have the post, but that was a cool hack), I kept
digging through the windowPackage.ps file.  In there is the piece
of PostScript that handles mouse downs in the title bar.  

After about 4 hours of making stupid mistakes and hand writing a 
ton of stacks, I got it working.  There are a few changes that you have
to make and so far they seem to work.  Essentially the problem was that 
the window server was checking for the Alternate key being down 
*after* bringing the window to the front.  I moved the "bring to front"
stuff after the check for the Alternate key and it worked, but then 
that screwed up the stack for when there are no keys pressed.  So a 
little monkeying with the stack and it all works!  It's kind of cool,
and there's no speed decreases or anything like that.

If you're interested in getting the changes from me, drop me an e-mail.
If enough people want it then I'll just post the whole chuck of PS that
I changed.  All in all there's about 10 or 15 lines changed, but they're
kind of scattered.

See you.

Paul

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From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Subject: Re: No FrameMaker 4.0 for NeXT?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:09:22 GMT
Reply-To: sh.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I checked through my NeXT sales rep and this rumor was flatly denied.

I also sent mail to Frame, and they said that there are no announced versions  
of Frame 4 at all yet, for any platform.
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From: Doug_Smith@Novell.COM (J. Douglas Smith)
Subject: Problems compiling Emacs
Keywords: Emacs
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:50:13 GMT

I'm trying to compile the Emacs front end that I downloaded from  
cs.orst.edu.  When I try to make the executable, make returns the error:

	Don't know how to make /usr/include/zone.h

I'm new to the NeXT environment.  What's the problem?  I'm running  
NextStep 3.0.

Doug Smith
UNIX Desktop Group
Novell DSG
From: jgreen@next.com (Jack Greenfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Updating .index.store
Date: 20 Dec 92 06:26:57 GMT

In article <RALF.92Dec11002942@jodokus.en.open.de> ralf@reswi.en.open.de  
(Ralf E. Stranzenbach) writes:
> Is there any way to get an "update" instead of this brute remove-and-
> rebuild-from-scratch method ?

Sure.  Just don't remove the index.  ixbuild will update an existing index  
if it finds one.

J.
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From: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Subject: Re: Printing on remote Apple LaserWriter
Reply-To: csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague)
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:35:56 GMT

vhv1@midway.uchicago.edu (Tony Vo) writes:
  
>I have a NeXTstation running NeXTstep 3.0, and I would like to print to an    
>Apple LaserWriter connected to the network.  Does anyone know how to do    
>this?
 
Read the docs NextLibrary/Documentation/AppleTalk/AdminNotes and
NextLibrary/Documentation/AppleTalk/UserNotes  These two files will explain how  
to configure your next to access an AppleTalk network and there by print to a  
LaserWriter on the network.

Things you need.  NeXT on EtherNet network, LaserWriteron AppleTalk connected  
to EtherNet via a Shiva FastPath or similar gateway.

Once AppleTalk access is established, open NeXTApps/PrintManager, click on  
Create, select Cummunications.  AppleTalk will be one of the options(if not,  
you did something wwrong).  Now click Chose Printer.  You should see a list of  
nodes available to you.  Setect the one that contains the LaserWriter you want  
to use, and wait about 1 minute while it looks for printers, then click on the  
printer you want.

Christian Smith
From: don@b62178.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Is the wait over? Upcoming NeXT CD-ROM drive
Date: 14 Dec 1992 04:27:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: don@b62178.STUDENT.cwru.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62178.student.cwru.edu
Keywords: Late, late, late...

In article <1992Dec14.040203.1639@news.acns.nwu.edu>  
garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 	For those of you like me waiting for the 3.0 CD-ROM bundle for  
> almost 4 months, are you getting your NeXT CD-ROM drive now? 

Nope, and I've been waiting for nearly 5 months!
                                       ^

> Will NeXT  
> start shipping them in quantity tomorrow Dec-14th???

Beats me...I'd be very surprised to see mine before Xmas.


Impatiently Yours,

Don Siegel
CWRU NeXT Users Group
From: hfp@macadam.com (Hal Fox-Palmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Date: 10 Dec 92 23:24:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MACadam NeXT Sales and Support (415) 863-6222.

In article <1g7r1cINNal@agate.berkeley.edu> nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu > 
> 	The problem with the POWER chip is that Apple/IBM will probably
> demand rather through controll.  Go with the 88110, which has been  
described
> as a perfect chip for // processing. 
> 
> 	However, this argument is moot.  NeXT will continue to produce  
it's
> on hardware, probably on Moto chips (68040/68060, maby 88110), and  
porting
> it's OS to the bulk machines for those who bought the wrong computer in  
the
> first place (Intel chips), Hopefully SPARC is next on their list.   
(Imagine
> one of those multi-processor Sun SPARC's running NeXTstep??  I'm  
starting to
> drooll....  :)
> 
> 	For their OWN hardware, they won't use the Intel architecture.  It
> is not as good as the Motorola architecture they are using now, and for
> NeXT, the chip itself isn't really going to matter that much.  Also,  
NeXT
> can't compete with the manufacturing costs against the Intel based  
clones.
> The machines NeXT makes will always look better then the comporable  
Intel
> machiens that NeXTstep is running on, simply because the NeXT hardware  
is
> designed to work very well with NeXTstep.  (I would not like to live  
without
> MY DSP, what about you??)
> -- 
> Nicholas C. Weaver                                 
nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu
> It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying  
nothing.


I'm hearing NeXT is bringing out an Intel based machine !!!
Hal   hfp@macadam.com
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT in The Economist
Date: 18 Dec 1992 19:42:47 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <1992Dec18.175154.1144@hot.com> Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:
>This week's Economist has an article on NeXT.  It discusses NeXT's  
>history, object-orientation. NeXTSTEP 486, and more.  Be sure to check it  
>out.
What issue was this?  ie.  What is the Volume & Issue #?
 RWW.

-- 
Robert W. Wong Jr.
wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
"I can't even remember all the things I've forgotten." - RWW.
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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:23:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.180118.105908@lexmark.com> songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) writes:
>Still, Intel drives volumes high enough that while their chips may not be
>the fastest per transistor, they are often the fastest per dollar. Economy
>of Scale is very important here. (Hence the reason NeXT didn't go with the 
>88k.) Next is not in the super fast workstation market -- they are in the 
>desktop market. They need a processor base that has a reasonable tradeoff 
>between speed and price. Motorola cannot not even keep up with Intel in terms 
>of chip speeds and Intel lags the Riscs by about a year.

Intel processors really aren't that cheap until people start buying
the evuivelent Cyrix or AMD clone...  Plus, there are more important
reasons to go with Pentium rather than another processor.


andrew
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