HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Reply-To: sjsobol@tiny.com (Steven J. Sobol)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: news, new groups, and bounced mail
Organization: The Tiny Software Company, Main Office, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 92 01:41:34 

Wnews, when it receives a newgroup message from my feed, automatically
creates the group, and then the mail message telling me about it bounces
because of the way it is sent. I know I can install another mail program
like 'deliver' that will be able to handle the bouncing mail, but, 
fercryinoutloud, I don't want all these new groups created in the first 
place without my consent!! If I want them I will ask for them!! Can I disable
this? If not, would it hurt to rmgroup 'control' or take it out of my sys
file? (Because that is what I am about to do. I'm tired of rmgroupping and
manually removing directories.)

Thanks
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From: root@tbucks.com (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: tin help
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:50:47 GMT
Organization: tbucks.com (private bitty-box)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Whenever I start up tin, it shows one unread article in each group, though
there are no articles there. How come?
From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: beta for installable news ready
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:41:42 GMT
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

If possible, I would suggest posting it to comp.sources.unix.  

Ben
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From: Mike@tron.gun.de (Michael Gerhards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: problems with asy and com
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 15:09:00 +0200

Hallo,

I get Coherent 4.0.1 on August 24 and installed it without big problems.
But after I installed uucp and tried to open a terminal for logins, I get
the an error message from modeminit three times: /dev/modem: cannot create

My /etc/ttys contains '0rLcom1r' and entries for com2-4, mono0-3.

I linked /dev/modem to /dev/com1l and I use the 'modeminit' without any
changes. uucp-calls are ok, and dialing out through com1 is ok the first time.
But the second time I started xc or minicom1.32, I get: 'cannot enable com1l'

Perhaps, I should use the asy-drivers, but I'm not sure. The articles in the
manual of com1-4 are nearly the same as in the manual of 3.2.

Could someone mail me his entries of ttys, modeminit, L.devices and the
configuration-file of minicom ?

c u

Mike

P.S.: I've a 2400Bd-Hayes-compatible modem with MNP4/5 and V42
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Subject: Re: Deleting Masterboot without reinstalling?
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:49:22 GMT

pershing@teal.csn.org (Paul Pershing) writes:


>Hello - I see that one way to delete MWC's Masterboot is to install DOS....
>well, I decided to switch _back_ to DR DOS 6 from MS DOS 5, installed it,
>and guess what? That's right! MWC's Masterboot be gone. Now, the question
>is, do I have to go through a _whole_ installation again just to rewrite the
>MWC bootstrap? And what about all the files I have in the Coh4 filesystem?
>Are they history as well?

No, nothing is lost, the masterboot can be re-installed:
1. run fdisk under DOS and make the Coherent partition the active
   boot partition.
2. reset the system, it should boot Coherent now.
3. type shutdown and answer the question with y, to bring Coherent
   into single user mode.
4. type the following commands:
   /etc/fdisk -b /conf/mboot /dev/at0x
   /bin/sync
5. Hit <CTRL><ALT><DEL>
Now your system should boot again with the fine masterboot from MWC.
I can't guarantee that this works, I haven't done it my selfe.
Please let us know what happens, and if it works Mike could add this
to the Coherent FAQ's.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: zbang@access.digex.com (Carl P. Zwanzig)
Subject: Re: Is RSTS still alive?
Organization: The Midnite Group
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:52:08 GMT

In article <njxn22=.dahl@netcom.com> dahl@netcom.com (Michael Dahl) writes:
>Just wondering...
>
>Michael Dahl,  Cimplex Corporation  
>Voice: (408) 879-2800  Fax: (408) 879-9605 x122
>1500 E. Hamilton Ave. Suite 100,  Campbell Ca. 95008 
>dahl@netcom.com  - or -  {apple,claris}!netcom!dahl
>-- 

Well.... my system still works.  (sorry, I couldn't resist)

I'm even running version 8.

Carl Zwanzig
zbang@access.digex.com
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.rsts
Subject: Re: Is RSTS still alive?
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:09:51 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <njxn22=.dahl@netcom.com>, dahl@netcom.com (Michael Dahl) writes:
> Just wondering...

  Yes, it is. The current release version is V10.0, and DEC has announced that
V10.1 is in Field Test at this time. I'm running 6 RSTS/E systems here at SPC.
[We also have some VAX/VMS, VAX/Unix, PDP-11/Unix, and Sun systems]

  If you'd like to try the current RSTS/E release, you can call my RSTS BBS at
(201) 915-9361. This system has most of the available layered products instal-
led as well.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
Newsgroups: comp.os.rsts
From: dahl@netcom.com (Michael Dahl)
Subject: Is RSTS still alive?
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 11:15:56 GMT
Organization: Cimplex Corporation

Just wondering...

Michael Dahl,  Cimplex Corporation  
Voice: (408) 879-2800  Fax: (408) 879-9605 x122
1500 E. Hamilton Ave. Suite 100,  Campbell Ca. 95008 
dahl@netcom.com  - or -  {apple,claris}!netcom!dahl
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From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.rsts
Subject: Re: Is RSTS still alive?
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:26:45 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

We have 85 PDP-11/73-83 systems still running RSTS with over 2500 terminals
attached.  We install 3 _new_ customer sites in the last 18 months.
From: havemann_l@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.rsts
Subject: Re: Is RSTS still alive?
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:31:51 GMT
Organization: Lee Havemann, HSH Associates

In article <1992Sep13.210951.3854@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:
> In article <njxn22=.dahl@netcom.com>, dahl@netcom.com (Michael Dahl) writes:
>> Just wondering...
> 
>   Yes, it is. The current release version is V10.0, and DEC has announced that
> V10.1 is in Field Test at this time. I'm running 6 RSTS/E systems here at SPC.
> [We also have some VAX/VMS, VAX/Unix, PDP-11/Unix, and Sun systems]
> 
>   If you'd like to try the current RSTS/E release, you can call my RSTS BBS at
> (201) 915-9361. This system has most of the available layered products instal-
> led as well.
> 
> 	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
> 	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
> 	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381

Not quite as many systems, but we use 2 /84's, 20+ users, and about a million
lines of code written in BASIC+ - One of the reasons that we haven't ported
over to another op sys, besides the fact that we like it!



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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: Re: DV/X Apps
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:12:34 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <5163@news.duke.edu> jbrehm@acpub.duke.edu (John Brehm) writes:

>Well, after a week of fiddling around, I've been able to convert some
>X apps to DV/X apps.  Is there a particular place to post applications?

Which apps have you ported? Would you care to write a mini-summary of
porting tricks. I have found that some port easily, xsol, xrdb, some
not so easily, xless, bdftosnf, and some not at all, xloadimage,
oneko...

I just posted another note on the system calls in qdeck.h. They might
be helpful. Take a look.

PK
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: QEMM Stealth ROMs feature..?
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:14:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison

In article <1992Sep08.172656.8075@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.100552.1625@nuchat.sccsi.com> dhollis@nuchat.sccsi.com (Daniel Hollis) writes:
>>Can someone give more techincal details as to EXACTLY what the
>>Stealth ROMs feature of QEMM/386 does?
>
>Many of the details are secret (shhh!)  but basically, we go into the 

Along the same line, why can't you use EMS disk caches with Stealth?
-- 
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Grad Student
University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: davidr@hplsla.hp.com (David M. Reed)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:02:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Problems with Dvx after installation
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview

Your description sounds similar to my initial experience.  One game and a
couple of item ran, but most hung the system or simply never started.
It was because of insufficient conventional memory.  I had to get available
conventional memory above 300K before I could run things reliably; and then
it worked quite nicely.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: ele9067@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it (Massimo Fabbri)
Subject: FAQ - where?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:19:08 GMT
Organization: C.d.C., Politecnico di Milano

Is there a FAQ for this group? Where can I find it? If it's been already
posted, can anyone send it to me via e-mail?

 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: DV/X and X11 fonts (ATTN QD)
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 17:40:16 GMT

In article <gee17jm00WBOQ8aoBq@andrew.cmu.edu> mp52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Edward Patton) writes:
>
>GREAT!  Now that we CAN ftp the program, to where do we ftp?  An
>internet address as well as directory name might come in handy.
>
>BTW, I understand that if one joins the QOS BBS they can get access to
>updates, bugfixes, etc.  Well how about those of us who don't have a
>modem and therefore can't download them?  I am still running 1.01 and I
>want to get 1.02 as well as a fixings.  Can we netters get the same
>access?


Everything FTPable should be available from SIMTEL sites and their mirrors.
We are looking into a local anonymous FTP site, but don't hold your breath.


I know the >102b patch is available at the above.

Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com>
From: sundaram@cps.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Please help me get started with DV/X!
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:04:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: sundaram@arctic.cps.msu.edu

Hi all,
	I need help getting started with DV/X on my PC. I want to develop
	applications and need some pointers.

	I ftp-ed to barnacle.erc.clarkson.edu and download all the zip
	files in pub/msdos/djgpp directory. There are a slew of these 
	files - most of which I have no idea what they are for. Could somebody 
	PLEASE let me know which ones I need and which are not necessary.

	Also, is it in any way possible to develop applications using 
	Borland c++ 2.0 as my compiler??

	Finally, how do I customise the neviroment variables in my dos 
	windows - e.g. when I run Procomm Plus in a DOS window and try to
	download, it tells me that it has run out of environment space!

	I would really appreciate any help with these issues. 

	Thank you very much!

	Divya
	(sundaram@cps.msu.edu)
From: ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: New DVINT available
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:37:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BuJAMy.Frp.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


Release 32 of the Quarterdeck-specific extract of the interrupt list, DVINT,
is now available for anonymous FTP from CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.222.173] in
/afs/cs/user/ralf/pub/DESQview (change there with a *single* command) as
dvint32.zip.  It will shortly be available on SIMTEL20 in PD1:<MSDOS.DESQVIEW>
as well.

	Ralf

PS.  I am unsubscribing this newsgroup for the next several months in order
to concentrate on completing my degree.
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From: cb3c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher John Barbosky)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Communication Program
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:21:51 GMT
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Does anyone have a DV/X communication program that
supports vt102.  The other thing I would really like to see
is a communication program that allows me to specify the
font size, and window size so that I can have a larger viewing
area for my terminal, i.e 35 rows by 100 columns....

Thanks,

Chris
cb3c@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: drewo@dcatlas.dot.gov (Andrew R. Orndorff)
Subject: Re: DV/X and X11 fonts
Reply-To: Andrew Orndorff <dcatlas!drewo@uunet.uu.net>
 Organization: NHTSA Data Center, Washington, D.C., USA
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:22:05 GMT

nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nick Watkins) writes:

>From article <1992Sep2.142121.27677@dcatlas.dot.gov>, by drewo@dcatlas.dot.gov (Andrew R. Orndorff):
>> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
>> 

>> 	One typical way to get around this is to dump DEC's X11 on the
>> Ultrix system and build the MIT release, which uses the SNF format
>> fonts. However, this doesn't work for some of the newer DEC Stations
>> because no server is yet available for DEC's newer graphics cards - but
>> that doesn't prevent you from using the MIT clients, libraries and fonts.
>> 
>We have a colleague who, on suggesting this, was threatened with removal
>of support by DEC (ie all support, not just for X11). 

>Not a reason not to do it, merely an observation. We checked if HP have
>similar attitudes, fortunately not ...

>Nick
>-- 

	True...DEC doesn't seem to be very generous in this area. But, from 
personal experience, with enough effort it is possible to install the MIT
distribution without disturbing the DEC products - not easy, but possible.

	In any event, if you have access to the MIT distribution there is a
font aliases file for mapping DEC fonts to MIT fonts - so once you have
the MIT fonts and that alias file, DVX should be fine.

	Andrew Orndorff

	NHTSA Data Center

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Subject: Re: QEMM Stealth ROMs feature..?
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:11:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep08.172656.8075@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
>Many of the details are secret (shhh!)  but basically, we go into the 
>interrupt vector tables, repoint all the ints that currently point into
>ROMs into a block of our own code and when that int is triggered, we
>deal with pointing to where it really belongs.  We can then map RAM in to 
>the logical addresses that formerly contained the ROM code.
>
>>I ask this, because Stealth mode, although it seems to work OK, is
>>making our technician here kinda jumpy, not knowing exactly what
>>is going on ;)

I know how he feels.  I view the introduction of Stealth in 6.0 as a
watershed event in QEMM's development.  Before then, I always viewed
OPTIMIZE as optional - for people who could not be bothered learning the
details.  With the introduction of Stealth, OPTIMIZE became an essential
step - you don't even document that Stealth exists - OPTIMIZE simply
does it by magic.  (I don't even think "OPTIMIZE /STEALTH" is documented;
it just kinda happens...)

I felt much more comfortable when I understood the product - I resisted
using any version of 6.0 for a long time (even now, I stick with 5.11 on
my work machine)  I always viewed that as a plus for Quarterdeck
products - that you could understand what is going on.  For example, the
main reason I abhor Microsoft Windows is because it is such a big black
box - no one understands it.

>Does he know exactly what goes on when he loads DOS?  How about

In fact, yes.  Not that any of it is documented through official channels,
but, thanks to the efforts of many, many people, DOS is basically an open box
at this point.

Nevertheless, thank you for the details provided above.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: support@qdeck.com (Technical Support)
Subject: Re: NewProc question
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 23:05:03 GMT
Keywords: Desqview API

In article <1992Aug19.220953.13641@telesoft.com> holder@telesoft.com (Robert L. Holder @ignite) writes:
>I am writing a program to take advantage of the desqview API.
>I would like a parent process to start a child with "NewProc".
>I would then like to receive asynchronous notification of when
>the child process completes and its status. Does anyone know a
>good way to do this? How about a kludge way? I am using Desqview/X
>as the multitasker. Thanks for any info.
>

The DV API mailbox calls were designed to do this. You don't mention what
libraries you're using, but the DESQview API reference manual's
"mailbox objects" section has full datails. You would just have your
parent process establish a mailbox, and have the child process send
mail to the parent when it is completed. The DV API mailbox calls will
work unaltered under DVX.

 - Tom Bortels - Quarterdeck Technical Support - support@qdeck.com

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From: i11@cs-acad-lan.Lakeheadu.Ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: CREATING DUMB TERMINALS WITH DESQVIEW-X ????????????????????
Date: 9 Sep 1992 00:32:24 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University

I need an additional workstation at my house.  I have an old 8088 that I 
would like to run as a dumb terminal off my 386/33.  This will allow all 
processing to be done on a faster machine and one single location for all 
data files.  I hear the new DESQVIEW allows a remote computer to access a 
window on a host.  QUESTIONS:  1) does this allow for serial or parallel 
conections between the two machines.  2) do I need to upgrade my 8088 to a 
386sx if it is only going to run in terminal mode.  3) will I be able to 
access multiple windows on the host to simulate multi-tasking on the 
terminal (8088)  4) will DESQVIEW-X run MS-WINDOWS programs in a window or 
must WINDOWS be running in a DESQVIEW window to run WINDOWS applications  
5) will desqview run DOS applications in a window or must they run full 
screen.  That's all the questions for now.  I am eager to find a solution to 
my problems, so any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks a million

Dan Sullivan
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh)
Subject: Re: FAQ - where?
Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:14:24 GMT

In article <ele9067.716120348@cdc835> ele9067@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it (Massimo Fabbri) writes:
>Is there a FAQ for this group? Where can I find it?

The DESQview/QEMM Frequently Asked Questions list can be obtained
from a variety of places.  First, it is posted montly to 
comp.os.msdos.desqview and news.answers with the subject line
"DESQview/QEMM Frequently Asked Questions: READ BEFORE POSTING".
Use your newsreader to search backwards for an article with this subject
line.

Second, it is available via anonymous FTP from SIMTEL20 and mirrors
in the DESQVIEW directory.  On WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL get
PD1:<MSDOS.DESQVIEW>DVFAQ8.ZIP.  On OAK.OAKLAND.EDU get 
/pub/msdos/desqview/dvfaq8.zip.
-- 
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Grad Student
University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: DV/X Apps
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:16:38 GMT
Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison

In article <1992Sep08.003712.130567@zeus.calpoly.edu> mwormley@zeus.calpoly.edu (Matt Wormley) writes:
>   Also, a question:  is there a FAQ list floating around?  It seems like 
>someone mentioned it but I haven't seen it anywhere.  If one exists, I 
>would appreciate a copy... thanx.

The DESQview/QEMM Frequently Asked Questions list can be obtained
from a variety of places.  First, it is posted montly to 
comp.os.msdos.desqview and news.answers with the subject line
"DESQview/QEMM Frequently Asked Questions: READ BEFORE POSTING".
Use your newsreader to search backwards for an article with this subject
line.

Second, it is available via anonymous FTP from SIMTEL20 and mirrors
in the DESQVIEW directory.  On WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL get
PD1:<MSDOS.DESQVIEW>DVFAQ8.ZIP.  On OAK.OAKLAND.EDU get 
/pub/msdos/desqview/dvfaq8.zip.
-- 
Dan Bodoh
Grad Student
University of Wisconsin-Madison
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview