HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: re: M-NET 
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:55:27 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

re: M-NET

knowing someone at M-NET I can make a small contribution here ;)

M-NET is *the* private broadcaster in South Africa. Its blueprint
was adopted from CANAL+ in France. It operates using conventional
terrestrial antennas *BUT* scrambles their signal except for a
few 'ITC windows'. They have been terribly successful in South Africa.
Their fees are high, they also build/assemble their own descramblers.

Mid 1992 they where in discussions with BBC WSTV to provide them (M-NET)
with news, much in the same way that SABC (state broadcaster) picks up
CNN.

From what I was told, they are intending to branch out across Africa
and already negotiate some rights (ie: Boxing) on a pan-African basis
then redistribute.


robert kobenter
rwkobent@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca
victoria BC Canada

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:48:21 -0500
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET>
Subject:      Galaxy 3 change

CSPAN on G3-24 is running a banner at the bottom of the screen saying
they are closing transmission on 31st January after which they will only
be on C3-07.  As of yesterday sometime, the BBC World Service subcarrier
was switched off, it is now only on C3-07 at 5.40 MHz.

I wonder if the other services are going to disappear the same day?.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
UUCP:       ...!mcnc!aurgate!aurfs1!gingell
Internet:   gingell%aurfs1%aurgate@mcnc.org
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: edg@ecs.comm.mot.com (Ed Gonzalez)
Subject: UK readers: Info on Yagi ant. wanted.
Organization: trunking_terms
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:34:05 GMT
Followup-To: C-Band Yagi?
Keywords: Yagi antenna C-Band

Hello there!

Could someone in the UK give these chaps a call
and get us the scoop on the Yagi C-band antenna?
Its produced by :
          Space & Scientific Ltd. (SSL)
          First Base
          Beacontree Plaza
          Gilette Way
          Reading, Berkshire  RG2 OBP
          UK
          44-734-311881

QUESTIONS TO ASK :
                  PRICE!!! How much is it?
If someone already has a working c-band system,
Can this antenna be used with the current equipment? or
do you still have to get additional accessories? How much for the
additional accessories?
How long is this antenna? 
What is the weight?
The ad, in Satellite Communications, July 92 says that the antenna
is comparable to a 2.4m dish.  Was this dish solid aluminium or mesh?
(My experience has been that solid dishes bring in more signal than 
mesh).
Can this antenna pick up Intelsat birds with a 25k lnb?
Do you aim this antenna like C-band dishes?  
The antenna works with North American Satellites, right?
Are there any dealers anywhere in North America?

Either Post info or reply to 
edg@comm.mot.com
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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: HBO Free Preview - Bummer!
Organization: DSC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:03:41 GMT

I recorded Star Trek VI last night from HBO's free preview, and I was
really mad that the stupid box that said "To Subscribe, Call 1-800-blah"
didn't disappear until about a minute into the movie. I guess that's their
little way of making sure anything you record during the free preview has
their mark on it, sort of the way a dog pees on its territory.

This is new to me. Usually a free preview is just that - you just get the
service (with some plugs for subscribing) for that period of time. Not any
more! Now they're using the VCII+ datastream to plaster a black box on the
screen with the number to call for satellite subscriptions. I really
wouldn't mind that if they would get rid of the box before the movie starts.
This is worse than voiceovers on radio stations!

Oh well, I guess it's better than nothing.

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest - I feel much better now.

Larry
From: leikvoll@hsr.no (Morten Leikvoll)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: What to do with a Marcopolo receiver.
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:13:54 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre

In article <1993Jan27.085545.3119@dct.ac.uk>, ccofjg@dct.ac.uk (Frazer Greig) writes:

> 
> You can have your existing Ferguson BSB system upgraded to receive D2MAC/PAL
> for around #70. If you have a Philips, Nokia (like me) or Tatung you can trade
> them in for a Ferguson D2Mac/Pal receiver for #99.
> 
> Contact Trac Systems on 0642 468145, 452555 (lines are busy).
> 
> -- 
> Frazer Greig                 Internet: CCOFJG@DCT.AC.UK
> Computer Centre                 Janet: CCOFJG@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
> Dundee Institute of Technology

Hey! I'll buy the Phillips! (price?)

-Morten Leikvoll / leikvoll@hsr.no (Is it short enough?)
From: doconnor@sedona.intel.com (Dennis O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Satellite Jukebox on Astra to Close!
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:37:02 GMT
	<larry.727740513@mits> <1993Jan25.080201.12542@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
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In-reply-to: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:02:01 GMT


juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels) writes:
] >Damn, soon all channels on Astra will be German.. Well, it wouldn't
] >matter if they weren't such fools to dub them, but they are..! :(
]
] Germans are used to dubbing. They consider it to be stupid to read movies.
] (subtitles)

If the actors doing the dubbing are as good at expressing emotion
with their voices as the original actors, dubbing works fine.
However, this is quite often not the case, especially with very
well-acted movies like Kurasawa'a "The Seven Samurai".

I admit, tho, I usually have to watch a subtitled movie at least twice
to fully appreciate it.
--
Dennis O'Connor			doconnor@sedona.intel.com
From: wkrause@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Wolfgang Krause)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Dubbing on German TV channels (WAS: Lifestyle Satellite to Close!)
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:20:54 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
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larry@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Hero) writes:

>Damn, soon all channels on Astra will be German.. Well, it wouldn't
>matter if they weren't such fools to dub them, but they are..! :(

Good point. Although I am a native German speaker, I throughly
enjoy broadcasts with the original soundtrack. The Dutch are different in that
respect. All their broadcasts carry the original sountrack with Dutch 
subtitles.

This is true for terrestrial TV, as well as for movies. RTL-4 on Astra has the
same policy on dubbing, but unfortunately they are scrambled for most American
talkshows and movies.

The effect of non-dubbing (IMHO): Most Dutch speak excellent English, at least
compared to the majority of Germans.  (Well, the Oprah Winfrey show has to be
good for something! BTW, I do enjoy that show! )

Belgian TV also carries most stuff with the original sound, but the subtitles
in Dutch AND French seem to take up most of the screen :-) . Also, their 
programming really sucks. I guess, most people watch Dutch or French TV 
anyway (sorry).

BTW, the RTL-4 coding appears to be easy to circumvent. As I take it, only the
sync-singnals are missing. Does anybody have more on this? (In terms of: Are
they planning to modify it, is there a cheap circuit avaiable somewhere etc.)

So long,
     Wolfgang.
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From: gerry@bluemoon.use.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: Re: WEFAX/PRESS PICTURES
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 06:23:29 EST

klimasewski@fccvde.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:

> 
> Over the weekend I was successful in copying wefax pictures (S3 ch17 @1.88 an
> 1.93MHz) and Press Photos on K2.
> 
> The demodulator and software is made by SOFTWARE SYSTEMS 
> CONSULTING, called WEFAX/GOES. It consists of a piece of hardware that 
> connects to the end of an RS232 cable. The hardware has two cables with 1/8th
> plugs. One for HF fax and the other for VHF. This plugs into the ext. speaker
> jack.
> 
> I connected the descrambler output port of my receiver which is a 0-8MHz vide
> output port to the rf input port of a shortwave receiver that has an 
> FM mode and tuned in the freq range of 1.88MHz,1.93MHz (S3) and 4.020MHz (K2)
> 
> Pictures looked great! Has anyone else tried this using a TVRO??
> 
> 
>                              Ken

   Yes, others have tried, and most have found the bandwidth of the
FM receiver they had was incorrect. It was too narrow (IC761, Kenwood
TS430S, etc) or too wide (Icom IC100 WFM).  What kind of SW receiver
did you use?

gerry@bluemoon.rn  My amateur radio callsign is K8EF, and my
packet radio address is K8EF@W8CQK.OH.USA.NA
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:46:47 MST
From:         "Darwin L. Mecham W-7211 BD9A/752"
              <mecham@VANDAL.EBR.ANLW.ANL.GOV>
Subject: Re: Dishcetra for December 1992 and January 1993 sent out...

Please put me on your list of those to ge the dishcetra magazine.

Thanks & TTFN

Darwin
From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: NHK gone(?)
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:32:36 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1jmibdINNduj@slab.mtholyoke.edu>, pryack@MtHolyoke.edu (Paul Ryack) writes...
>NHK has been found on C1/17.  The feed to ABC at 2:15 AM EST followed
>by the sumo tournement at 2:35.  I hope they stay there.
Oh great, another interesting ITC channel rides off into the sunset.

>NE Cable News is now on F2/21.
> 
Not as of this morning they weren't, but hopefully that was a temporary glitch.
Odd that they didn't dual feed for a few days.

gary
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Dishcetra for December 1992 and January 1993 sent out...
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:10:29 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu


I just sent out the dishcetra magazine for Dec 1992 and Jan 1993 to
those on the mailing list.  

If you want a copy and are not on the list, you can Email for one and
I'll put you on the list for it.  

If you are on the list and got multiple copies, I am sorry.  I think
I may have straightened out the "alias" command with my mailer, so 
I don't think there may be multiple copies this time.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: marcob@polo.Italy.Sun.COM (Marco Barsotti - SUN Italy )
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Stop Encripting channels! (Re: ASTRA 1C)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:16:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: marcob@polo.Italy.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: polo.italy.sun.com



> One fact will be, that most new 1C channels will be encrypted.
> Like the Disney Channel, Bravo or Thames, Children's or Games,
> Discovery or Arts Channel, TV Asia, Cala Plus Espana, Canal
> Sports Espana, probably 3 or 4 French TF1 channels (2 movies,
> 1 Sport, one Children). In the clear might be VIVA (forgot what
> it is or will be) and german VOX, and most probably beginning
> in 1994 the main german national channels ARD and ZDF, definately
> in the clear.

Maybe it is now time that we viewers start "lobbing" against
scrambling. I'm not shure how, but.... we should  try to get
the new channels to operate in the clear and paying themselves with
ads. After all MTV and SuperChannel do it this way, so it is
viable from an economic point of view.

BTW... I seem to remember that the BskyB practice of not allowing
to subscribe from outside UK is against some ECC rule.


Marco
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:16:32 MEZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Channel Videodat
              VMS Development" at Jan 21, 93 7:23 pm

Gary Hughes - VMS Development writes:
>
> In article <m0nEfAc-0000cMC@mcshh.Hanse.DE>,         "Wolfgang R. Schulz"
> <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE> writes...
> >3.  Through  "Channel Videodat",  the 24-hour data service on TV
> >channel "Pro7" on Astra  and  Kopernikus  1,  using  a  Videodat
> >decoder and programming the SAT ident.  The transmission is free
> >for all decoder owners.
>
> Could you provide some background as to how this system works? Obviously we
> can't access the service here in the US, but I'd be interested to know how it
> is implemented.
>
> gary
>
The Channel Videodat Service (by Videodat Medien GmbH, Michael Wiegand,
Bonner Strasse 31, D-5047 Wesseling, Germany. Phone +49 2236-8994600,
fax +49 2236-8994699) provides data on 3 free lines in the blanking
interval (lines 13, 14, 15 and corresponding ones in the second field).
Decoders are addressable, but half of the datastream is open for
everyone, supplying one newsagency and tons of shareware, catalogs etc.
The other half must be bought for a small fee. Until TODAY they used
the system that you had to call them on the phone what you wanted, so
they opened your decoder and you could download it. Payment in Germany
by bank draft is common, nobody sends checks here to anybody to pay
for something.
Since today they have changes to a different format. You call them
to buy a prepaid allowence for downloading software. One file in your
Videodat directory is then LOADED through an addressed message, and
whenever you download something that is not free, it is subtracted
from your encrypted file (Kontodisk).

This service so far can only be found on commercial channel Pro7 on
Astra and cable. The decoder costs DM 299,- I think. Maybe that was
the price for a card which has also a teletext decoder implemented.
Other TV stations like WDR3, TV BlauWeiss and eventually in the
future N3 are using it to supply mass data to accompany the program
with software, background news etc. In this case other lines of the
picture are used because 13,14,15 are occupied by teletext, VPS and
other data. They use the first real picture lines (24,25 here), and
the decoder software allows you to select the proper method in a
menue.

Regards,
Wolfgang


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From: phil@howtek.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Found a use for old VCII boxes
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:01:54 GMT
Reply-To: phil@howtek.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
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i,

With all the channels broadcasting in F:-NS mode these days, so they can throw
a barker screen up asking you to buy the channel, just use an old VCII board.

It is the old 'FA' mode, so the sound comes in, but no barker screens!!!!!
I watched the denver channels this way this morning.  

Phil

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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:42:08 PST
From:         Vijay Vaidyanathan <vijay@ZYCAD.COM>
Subject:      New Products etc at the San Diego SBCA Trade Show (longish)
              22 Jan 1993 13:35:47 GMT <9301221821.AA27466@Sun.COM>

Mike asks:
[stuff on the Tracker Premier 70 deleted]
> Do you have an approximate price on this thing?

approx $1250 including a VCRS module and about $300 less without
the module.

I have one at home right now, and I'll have a review on it soon.
BTW, there is something that I may have not made clear. The serial
port is basically a promise, and is not on the IRD today. I was
assured that they *will* sell the serial port attachment, and that
the next version will even have it built in.

- Vijay
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From: alberter@untadi.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Satellite Jukebox on Astra to Close!
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:20:38 GMT
Reply-To: alberter@untadi.enet.dec.com (Ludwig Alberter)
Organization: Digital Equipment GmbH, Muenchen


In article <1993Jan21.093207.544@bradford.ac.uk>, M.J.Cox@bradford.ac.uk (Mark Cox) writes:

|>Last night whilst watching Lifestyle Satellite Jukebox on
|>Astra a new `jingle' appeared saying
|>
|>"Lifestyle Jukebox giveaway - closing down"  or words to that
|>effect.    It seemed to indicate that it was closing down on
|>January 31st...
|>
|>Anyone know anything about this,  or whats replacing it?

It may have to do with the rumour that RTL-2 would takeover Lifestyle's
transponder.
--

regards,
Ludwig

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		BAVARIAM \ /\ /\ / VITA
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Date: Monday, 25 Jan 1993 09:44:21 CET
From: P.Long <PLONG@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject:    BBC-WSTV (Europe) vanishes into a MAC hole

As of midnight GMT/UTC last, theclear PAL transmission has become MAC as
expected (10.995 V - 27.5W).

Contrary to expectations though, the other MAC signal on 11.470 H (lower power)
didn't change to carry the clear PAL version for the few last weeks.

Its a sad day for Europe, no more re-runs of Dad's Army, no more stodgy culture
unless you rush out now and buy a MAC decoder (if you can find one, cost 500$US
or more). What a time to choose with the recession and all!

If any beebperson reads this please throw that switch and give us clear PAL
for the time that is left to us.
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From: "bob lyle" <bob.lyle@canrem.com>
Subject: fox feed on g3-02
Reply-To: "bob lyle" <bob.lyle@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:19:35 EST

PH> Does anyone know what happened to the Fox feed on G3-02? It seems
PH> to have disappeared a few days ago.

It's be simulcating on C1 transponder 19 for almost a month. (C1 is
F1 on some receivers!) Guess it's there exclusively now...

Regards!

 Bob 

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From: gilmore@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kevin Gilmore)
Subject: tommorrow people?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:35:16 GMT

According to various guides tommorrow people was supposed to
be on Nick. last night at 7:00 cst. No Show. Anyone know the
revised viewing dates?

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:04:15 -0500
From:         Elmer Beachley <etb@CS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: IRD bandwidth questions ...

Bill:

WRT your questions on sat video and audio bandwidths:

The super-wide 30+ Mhz video bandwidths are most noticeable on KU.  Also,
some network feeds use a very high video bandwidth which will sometimes
produce a form of sparklies in very saturated colors.

The narrow video bandwidths are good if you're trying to pick up half
transponder feeds, again almost always on Ku.

One of the Canadian music stations is supposed to use 400 khz or greater
audio bandwidths.  The narrow audio bandwidths are needed for most
discrete stereo feeds and FM2.

The ranges provided by the DX are most likely adequate.  If you consider
yourself a critical video/audiophile, you most likely want the security
of the Monetrey which has the best specs in the industry (even better
then some commercial recievers).

Elmer Beachley etb@cs.pitt.edu
From: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Sci-Fi Channel to Scramble
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:48:31 GMT
Reply-To: mbn@hfglobe.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Organization: Shorter Software Solutions

In what _Multichannel News_ describes as an "unusual" move, the Sci-Fi
Channel (G5-4) has announced an audited list showing they will be in 11
million homes by Jan 31.  Time Warner Cable recently signed, giving Sci-Fi
17 out of the top 20 MSOs.

They estimate there are about 1/2 million pirated cable subscribers (cable
systems picking them up without registering).  No revenues are being lost,
since Sci-Fi has no fees for the first year, but, they're not happy with
this "pirating" and therefore will "probably scramble ... around the
middle of the year to deal with the problem."  (They had previously
announced that they would be in the clear for the first year of
operation.)

"Pirates" are uncovered when a cable subscriber or a local paper calls the
network for programming information.  "The network's unscrambled nature
also means it is available to some 2.5 million TVRO homes without charge.
Plans call for a TVRO rollout later this year, after scrambling."
--
Mike Northam, Shorter Software Solutions, on contract to Intel Corp.
(h) (503) 324-1831 (intel office) (503) 696-4860 (shorter) (503) 357-1010
mbn@hfglobe.hf.intel.com
"You ducks are really trying my patience...but you're SOOO cute. --Apu 9F01
From: duncan@classic.esd.sgi.com (Duncan Poole)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Starter Satellite System for Sale (California Bay Area)
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:08:27 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


Many people have asked what it would cost to get into the satellite
hobby *cheap*. Here is your chance to pick up a system very cheaply.


Option 1: "El cheapo" route:

(I used this for almost a year, had hours of enjoyment)

- 6 foot solid aluminum dish, looks crummy but is the best small dish available
- ma/com T1 stereo receiver (including shop schematics)
- 29 degree LNB
- feedhorn
-------------- the above will get you stereo reception, but because it has no
               actuator, you would have to turn the dish with a wire or rope.

total price: $280 (actually, I could knock $80 off the price if you are willing
                   to take a crummy LNB, but I would get this good one)

Option 2: (more expansion) includes a actuator arm and an IRD

- IRD is a Channel Master 6442 (good basic receiver)
   - stereo reception
   - on-screen programming
   - able to take a vc2+ module

- Jack arm is 6 months old

total price for (2) (including the dish from (1), feedhorn, and LNB): $450

---------------

Oh yes, if you want I have a VC2+ module for (2), that would be an extra $290.


First buyer (with a truck) gets it. -Duncan

Duncan Poole
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From: mike@donut.endicott.ibm.com ()
Subject: Global Satellite Network?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: kincer@owgvm6.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM FSC Owego

Where is the 'Global Satellite Network' I often hear my local
radio station broadcast?  Is it KU, C, or SCPC?

Mike                              __  __o         / "Everythin's IMHO,
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