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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Scotland in Europe
Date: 14 Sep 92 07:42:08 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <1992Sep13.221948.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> caar14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>In article <25733@castle.ed.ac.uk>, eftv20@castle.ed.ac.
>> Ec2 - Airdrie v Sparta Prague
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>  The German contributors may be a little miffed at being represented by
>> Hannover in this tournament but that's fairly respectable compared to
>> whom we've got. Airdrie are the dirtiest side in Scotland and I hope the
>> Sparta players have their shin guards packed. Sparta looked a reasonable
>> side last season and can afford to take it easy at Broomfield - they
>> ought to then stroll the tie in Prague.
>>   0-1, 0-4
>>            
>>          Gerry Stewart
>>          
>>           (Heriot Watt & Edinburgh Universities Celtic Supporters' Club)
>
>Well Gerry,
>          How many times have you seen Airdrie play this season, or come to
>think of it last season? Were you by any chance at Broomfield a fortnight ago
>when "the mighty Glasgow Celtic" managed to scrape a 1-1 draw?

Don't waste your time Ronnie, he never answers questions. He labels Rangers
as "predictable" and "boring" but has never seen them play....

>          I am fed up of people tagging Airdrie as "a hacking workman like
>team" without giving justification for this. Before you mention the amount
>of diamonds sent off last season; double that figure and you have the number 
>of opposition team players red carded playing against them.

I have seen Airdrie this season and it's not pretty with that cheat Sandison
at the back. The time wasting is incredible as the object is lessen the goals
against column.


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From: P.Crosland@frec.bull.fr (Pierre Crosland)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: EC123 TIPPING COMPETITION - FINAL CALL
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:44:12 GMT
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> 
> Unconfirmed Competitors
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> 
> Comp#	IP Address					Name 
> 
> 19	p.crosland@frec.bull.fr				Pierre Crosland 
> 
Hi Tim,
Here I am. I was in vacation for 3 weeks. That is the reason why you didn't
received e-mail.

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From: hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: WC 94 Request:  Europe Group 6
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:49:41 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

On 14 May 92, Bulgaria defeated Finland in a qualifying
match.  Does anyone know what the score was?

Thanks.

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From: rcampb@janis.cac.washington.edu (Russ Campbell)
Subject: Re: APSL:  Strikers new owner
Organization: UW Information Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:40:04 GMT

In article <hamlet.716493683@milton>, hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan) writes:
> clarinews@clarinet.com (United Press International) writes:
> 
> >Amancio V. Suarez,
> >who already has partial ownership of the NBA's Miami Heat, is the new
> >owner of the Fort Lauderdale Strikers of the American Professional
> >Soccer League.

Can anyone say "tax write-off" ????  ;^)

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From: thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie)
Subject: Re: Australia: name changes enforced?
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:57:56 GMT


	Hi Karel,
		I just read your article and I don't know if anyone's replied
already but here goes...
		Yes the ASF has asked for ethnic names to be removed from the
titles of soccer clubs. The rationale being that in a country where soccer,
though gaining in popularity, is seen by the population as a whole as a 
foreigners sport. The names of foreign places being associated with the clubs
only exacerbates the situation. If you were an Australian sports goer would
you rather support a team called the Penrith Panthers or Melbourne Croatia?
(Yes I know Penrith is also the name of an English town, but there is nothing
called Croatia in Australia, so there is no local identity for the team)
	There is also another consideration in that ethnic names attract ethnic
grievances. Anyone who has heard of the disgraceful riot between the supporters
(and some players) of serbian and croatian affiliated teams will know what I 
mean. I believe the ASF is right here but the teams targeted for termination
have asked that the names of Sydney Olympic, and another team (I forget which)
be changed as well. This is the main stumbling block, although the teams 
involved may just be looking complicate matters to avoid a name change.
	Just another little story which comes to mindis one where after a
training session of the socceroos (in adelaide from memory) some youngsters
came with a ball which they asked the players to sign. Nothing but healthy
respect and admiration for a great Aussie team so far. However when the ball
came to some players of croatian heritage, who began to sign it, the boys
asked for the ball back and began to rub off the offending mark, while walking
away. Incensed one member of the squad yelled out "We're all Aussies here 
mate!" only to receive the one-finger salute. They breed them young here.
	I hope this makes things a little clearer.

P.S. Still waiting on player Nos.6,15,28,38 and 51 for tips. Get 'em in quick!

			Thomas the Tank Engine
			aka Algor

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From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Irish WC football reports
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:13:46 GMT

--



			Ireland 4 Latvia 0

Ireland impressed in crushing Latvia 4-0.  The Latvians came to defend and
did reasonably well in the first half.  They rode their luck on occasions, 
notably when Niall Quinn missed from 6 yards.  The breakthrough finally came
on 32 minutes.  Sheedy's pass was headed down by Quinn and Sheedy drove home.
This brought the rather subdued home fans to life.

The second half belonged to Ireland.  John Aldridge stole the show with a
superb hatrick.  Just after the hour he rose to superbly head Sheedy's free
kick to the bottom corner.  Tommy Coyne replaced an off form Niall Quinn and
immediately transformed the attack.  His running off the ball was superb and
his first touch seemed to have improved considerably.  He earned a penalty
10 minutes from time, drawing a foul from the frustrated Latvian central
defender who had earlier outplayed Quinn.  The customary Aldo shuffle ensured
the keeper went the wrong way.  Ireland played some superb football in the 
closing quarter and left the best wine until last.  A Denis Irwin cross was
powerfully headed home by Aldridge to make it 4.

This was a good result for Ireland.  We're top of the table with full points 
and 6 goals from 2 games.  The real campaign starts next month in Copenhagen.
A month later we meet Spain in Seville.  2 points from those 2 games will
ensure that Irish football fans have a very happy Christmas.

Team Bonner, Irwin, Staunton,Kernaghan,McGrath,Keane, Whelan, Townsend, Sheedy,
Quiin, Aldridge.  subs Coyne for Quinn and Phelan for Sheedy.


			Northern Ireland 3 Albania 0

This was not as convincing as the scoreline suggests.  Albania took the game
to Northern Ireland and only brilliant goalkeeping by Newcastle's Tommy Wright
saved Northern Ireland.  Colin Clarke scored his 13th goal for his country
after Albania had controlled much of the opening quarter.  Colin Clarke has now
set a new Northern Ireland goalscoring record surpassing the 12 goals scored
by Joe Bambrick,Billy Gillespie and Gerry Armstrong.  Kevin Wilson made it
2 after 30 minutes and Jim Magilton added a 3rd before the break.  NI cut 
through the Albanian defence at will but also looked vulnerable at the back.
Northern Ireland were content to defend their lead in the 2nd half which was
a dull and lifeless affair.  The Albanian manager considered Northern Ireland
a better side than the Republic.  

			
		Ireland		2 2 0 0 6 0 4
		Nthn Ireland	2 1 1 0 5 2 3
		Lithuania	3 1 1 1 4 4 3
		Spain		1 1 0 0 3 0 2
		Albania		4 1 0 3 1 8 2
		Denmark		1 0 1 0 0 0 1
		Latvia		3 0 1 2 1 6 1



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From: smk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stefan Kahrs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds and Europe
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:02:28 GMT
	<CHRIS.92Sep15113647@scan.scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de>
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Organization: University of Edinburgh, LFCS
In-reply-to: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de's message of 15 Sep 92 10:36:47 GMT

In article <CHRIS.92Sep15113647@scan.scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de> chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter) writes:

>   You better should hope, that Fritz Walter, the goalgetter of the year
>   91/92, will be missing. Interestingly the Austrian Knup has yet not
>   been successfully integrated into the Stuttgart squad and Walter is
>   one of the most 'dangerous' goalgetters of the bundesliga.

I agree with Chris that Walter is the real danger-man.
You can see that Knup is not fully integrated in the Bundesliga yet
by the very fact that Chris calls him an Austrian.
He happened to have scored twice in the recent Switzerland-Scotland game.
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From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Hungary round 4
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:04:12 GMT

Round 4
MTK                   2-1 Kispest
Novep                 0-1 Vasas
Diosgyor              2-1 Vac
Veszprem              2-1 Videoton
Raba ETO              0-0 Nyiregyhaza
Siofok                1-0 Csepel
Pecs                  2-0 Bekescsaba
Ujpest                0-0 Ferencvaros


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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Gresley news
Date: 7 Sep 1992 08:52:37 -0500
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Graham Doe write this: 
> The upper echelons of the table are as follows:
> 
> 			Played	Points	Goal diff.
> Newport			  4	  12	   +5
> Redditch		  5	  10	   +4
> Gresley			  3	   9	   +8
> Bedworth		  4	   9	   +4
> Barri			  4  	   9	   +3
> Nuneaton		  4	   8	   +3
> Sutton			  3	   7	   +4
> ...
> Looks like a pretty impressive start to life in the Beazer for the Moatmen!

Yes indeed! They are soon in the Football League! :-)
Or what do you say Garry?

Oh well, I just hope local heroes Holmsund FF could close the three points gap 
to win the Division 7 South Vaesterbotten! (Finally, I got it in somewhere :-))

Cheers,
Kent 
> Cheers,
> 
> Graham Doe

Thanks Graham from all the Rovers fans on the net!
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From: estess@mksol.dseg.ti.com (newell estess)
Subject: Re: America(n) Rules 8-)
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:29:41 GMT

In <4971@balrog.ctron.com> mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:

>One sign of hope that I see is that kids in our elementary schools in Salem,
>NH are starting to play soccer at recess.  They play fun, unorganized,   
>good.  But I hope the adult involvement doesn't make it less fun for them.

>Our league problem has been different. We played U8 & U10 with 7v7 for several 
>years, but went along with recommendations to go with 6v6 for U8 & U10. 
>Either way, when the kids went to 11v11 in U12 & U14, the coaches felt that
>many of them were unprepared for the changes in the game.  Everything from
>different positions to different responsibilities to skills to tactics (in
>that 6v6 tactics are more like hockey than soccer).  So this year we are 
>trying 9v9 in U12 to see if we can transition the kids better.  Even the
>travel leagues have divisions with 6v6 for the younger ages now, so I think
>there is some recognition that the 11v11 game is too much, and doesn't allow
>enough touches per kid for game-condition improvement to take place.

In North Texas, we have been playing various forms of small-sided soccer
for several years.  U6 plays 5v5, U8 plays 7v7, U10 plays 9v9, and U12
up play 11v11.  For U6 and U8, all free kicks are indirect and there is
no offsides.  These simplifications to the game make it easier, more
fun, and provide more touches.

I also see kids playing soccer a recess.  My oldest, now 13, never did
play at recess because few of her friends were that enthusiastic about
the sport.  My middle child, age 9, has played soccer at most ever
recess for 2 years.  And my youngest, age 5, has been trying to play
since he was 2.  He started out kicking, passing, and even heading the
ball back and forth.  He has never played American football or thrown a
baseball.   Yes, things are definitely changing in the US.  We may not
have a decent professional league, we may not see it on TV, we may not
win the World Cup, but our up and coming generation loves the sport.


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From: moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan)
Subject: Re: Sportschannel and English League soccer
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:08:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Sep14.220508.22463@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ramprasa@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna) writes:
>HAs SC started showing the weekly highlights?
>Prasad 

Not that I've noticed...though at the beginning of last nights
broadcast of the Tottenham/Everton match, they -did- show scoring
highlights of several midweek matches. 

Tottenham/Everton was the same match shown this past Saturday AM
by our Prime affiliate... but I don't recall seeing the highlights
on that broadcast.  I think they used the time for more ads... :-(
                                                              
(And I gave them such a nice review yesterday, too...)

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Subject: Re: Result of Man Utd vs Leeds
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 13:50:38 +0000







In article <1992Sep6.183650.25329@midway.uchicago.edu> th12@quads.uchicago.edu
(Paul T. Ho) writes:

>Both of the goals came in the first half. The first was a Kanchelkis
>header at the far post from a Giggs left-footed cross from the right.
>Giggs broke through the offside trap (Hughes was in fact offside in
>the center, but the referee didn't see that), and sent a prefect cross
>for Kanchelkis for an easy goal. 

Hughes was standing in the centre in an offside *position*. The ball was
played out to the wing, so he wasn't interfering with play, wasn't seeking an
advantage and so wasn't penalised for being offside. I'm sure the ref and/or
linesman was perfectly aware of Hughes' positioning but correctly allowed
play to continue. I was amazed that the "experts" on Sky TV could spend
so much time debating this incident and get it totally wrong. No flame
intended, but read the rules on offside.

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From: farrar@adaclabs.com (Stephen Daedalus)
Subject: Looking for a South Bay soccer team
Organization: The Eye of the Pyramid, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:56:10 GMT

Does anybody know of any soccer teams or leagues in the south bay?  I am 26,
play defense, have played for about 13 years.  Any info would be most appreciated

Thanks
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From: mppu3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Conor McMenamin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Expensive teams and liverpool players
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:59:16 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex
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csp48@seq1.keele.ac.uk (J.W. Kirriemuir) writes:
: With regard to the query on expensive teams; since Ron Atkinson came to
: the Villa ("I'm staying with the Wednesday" one minute and "Sod this,
: I'm off to the Villa" the next) 

Big Ron's behaviour on this occasion was perhaps rivalled only by Mo
Johnston's a couple of years ago...Can't remember his exact words but
they were something along the lines of "I love this club, I want to
play the rest of my career at Celtic" about three days before signing
with Rangers.

:                                 he has spent 9.99 million and sold
: players for around 10.5 million [source : Independent Newspaper].

He's a shrewd bloke in all but his taste in jewellery....

: His biggest signing was Dean Saunders (scored on last appearance for
: Liverpool); only time will tell whether this was wise, but a goalscorer
: (or three) were desperately needed - last seasons utter goal drought in
: mid season lost the Villains a top three place.

The reason Souness sold him was because Dean's perm is better than
Graeme's ever was even in its prime. Either that or Souness thinks that
scoring goals doesn't win matches. In fact, perhaps that's his problem.
Then again maybe he'll use the money to buy Hateley again (a real class
player-who said Souness couldn't spot them?).

Alan Hansen is the only choice as the next Liverpool manager. He has no
track record, but he knows something about football and he's a lot
funnier than Gary Lineker! You read it here first!

		Conor
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From: yewhin@ecf.toronto.edu (YEW HIN Jimmy)
Subject: Souness Bashing
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:14:13 GMT

Finally Liverpool haters from all over the world get their first chance in 
decades to take cheap shots at Liverpool because they are not doing very well
this season and Graeme Souness seems to be their punching ball. I am pretty    
sure that 90% of those people are Manchester United fans who finally get a    
chance to release the frustration that has been building up during the last
10-20 years that Liverpool has been dominating English and European soccer 
whereas Man. Utd has could only watch from the sidelines. While unleashing that
frustration they seem to forget one crucial point: Liverpool's best players are
injured and once they all recover, they will be kicking ass(including Man
Utd's) again. Also even if the Liverpool era was to be over (like many of you
seem to believe), we have given to English soccer the respect that it has 
all over the world throughout the numerous European cups we have won. No one hasand I highly doubt any one ever will dominate English soccer like we have in thepast decades, certainly not Manchester United the loser.(I can't wait for the 
flames from the Man. Utd fans). 

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