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From: juyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Broadway Musical + Lam + extra(Re: LAM is a Legend!)
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:00:07 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <9231415.21630@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) writes:
>>
>>	Did I miss any?  I have left out those *obvious* good songs.
>>
>	No! In fact you're keeping very well a chronological journal of all
>Lam's albums. Nice checklist for all the Lam-heads here. Very neat! Thanks. 
>

	Actually, there are a few more album that are the best selections/
	collections and music:

	EMI 1983 "Lam Chi Cheung Gor Chap" 
		It was published in July, almost the same time that WEA
		published LAM's first album with WEA.
	WEA 1984 "Oi Do Fat Siu" 
		It is a picture disc, with a over 7 minutes version of "Oi Do
		Fat Siu", and the two version of "Ngor Oi Ni (I love you).
	EMI 1984 "Ah LAM 20 Sau"
		Same purpose as the one published in 1983, EMI just wanted to
		make some money when WEA published LAM's new albumn.
	EMI 1987 "Fun Fun Chung LAM CHI CHEUNG Shui Yiu Ni Ching Sheun"
		The HK$36 double cassettes, only the cassette version was
		available that time.  However, it was republished again in LP
		(the black plastic disc) one or two years later.  
	WEA 1987/8 "Chi Cheung Gain Din Yum Ngok"
		Just his songs in music.
	
	EMI has published some of his old albums in CD, e.g. the one with
	the 20 English songs is a collection from LAM's first two album:
	LAM, LAM II.


	For LAM's English name, George, many netters have already posted it.
	Maybe I'll post more facts about LAM.

	Name: George Lam
	Date of Birth: October 12, 1947.
	Secondary School: Diocesan Boys' School
	Wife: Virginia Ng Ching-Yuen
	Son: Alex Lam Tak-Ching
	Daughter: Lam Tak-Yi (not sure about her Eng. name)	
	Residence: Ho Man Tin Hill Road (it's 1987 information, I know the 
					exact address but won't post it here.)
	Nickname: Chun Cheung Lam (as he like to get up early, he used to be
				the one who reach the film studio so early.)
	
	Can't think of anything to post.  If you want more info, don't
	hesitate to ask.

	
	Julia
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 11 Nov 1992 22:16:18 EST
From: "Gadget" Larry D. French, Sr. <IK10006@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: soc.culture.hongkong FAQ, Part I

How do I find out about a certain Hong Kong Company that I want to work for?
I know their name, but I know nothing about the company.  I would also like
information about the laws and conditions for living in Hong Kong.  What do I
need to have in my possession to travel to Hong Kong?  I've got a position with
the company offered to me, but I need information about what it is like there,
before I accept the position.
Sincerely,
Larry D. French, Sr.
From: K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Thanks for HKPA & request for more
Date: 7 Nov 92 13:10:56 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91862372@ccw205

yimwm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Warren Yim) writes:

>>Also, I am a big comic fan of Ma Wing Sing, hence any chance of getting
>>pictures of " Lip Phone & Pao King Wan" from Tin Ha Comic book ?
>>I would love to have them. Thanks in advance.

>I am also a big fan of "Tin Ha Comic". It would be really a great news
>for us if someone can upload somes gif of Lip Phone and Pao King Wan.

I do have a nice Tin Ha gif, but I'm not sure if it's appropriate to
post it to the newsgroup. So if you guys do I would be more than happy to
send this pic to you by email ...

-- 
Fred
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Smart Handsome Chas)
Subject: Re: The commercial by KCR
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:37:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.222644.1@cmcvx1.claremont.edu> ptsai@cmcvx1.claremont.edu writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov8.231424.18222@cis.ohio-state.edu>, kwai@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (ka-kei wai) writes:
>>  Well, I'm just wondering why nobody talks about the commercial, in which
>>  some kids play in a forrest, by KCR. I'm sure somebody knows what I'm talking
>>  about, especially those in Hong Kong. If I don't see any reponds on this
>>  group, I'll post the story which seems to be weird, but true. (A lot of people
>>  in Hong Kong say so)
>> 
>>  - Paul.
>
>	a friend told me about it, but is there any following-up action after
>it by KCR or HKU??? Any explanation?
>
>			BusterR!

Please tell me why HKU? (shaking head) Take care.

Chas.
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Smart Handsome Chas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The commercial by KCR (is ridiculous)
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:35:14 GMT
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

In article <pang.721592636@sfu.ca> pang@fraser.sfu.ca (Dave Ng) writes:
>john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>
>>This reminded me a true story happened in Hongkong a few years 
>>ago.  Many of you should still remember. Story went like this: 
>
>>	A MTR subway train was approaching, halfway into the station
>>	at high speed.  It was a very crowded day and hundreds of 
>>	people lined up behind the yellow line waiting for the 
>>	train to come to a complete stop.  Suddenly, the train driver 
>>	saw a woman, dress in red, broke out from the crowd 
>>	and jumped into the rail line.  The driver stepped on the
>>John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)   
>
>That driver is my old classmate in middle school. 
>He is still working in MTR.  
>
>Ki-pang Ng     
>internet: pang@sfu.ca 

So, did you ever ask him if this is true? Tell us if you did.
Thanks.

Chas.
From: ecuac@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr K W Loong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Commercial by KCR
Date: 13 Nov 1992 10:22:48 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

Hey, just told by my friend in HK that KCR has denied the rumour about its
advertisement. Does anyone have any other information on this?

LOONG
13th of November
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ctyau@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Yau Chor Tung)
Subject: Re: The commercial by KCR (is ridiculous)
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:57:03 GMT

tung031@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Tung Wai Yip) writes:

>I just heard the story last night. The rumour is like that:
>In a TV commerical of KCR, there are a group of children playing. They line
>up and pretend to be a train. One day someone spotted that the second last 
>child have very pale face and his nose was bleeding. People didn't spot
>that just because the focus in on the child on the front.
>When the director is asked for this. He is surprised becasue there are only
>six children when he shot the film. But there are seven children on the film.
>He don't know where is the 7th child come from.

>So much for rumour. Anyone with a little though would know that its bullshit.
>How can a film showing for few weeks, watch by millons of people without
>catching someone is bleeding in the film? Many people like to make up
>stories. Don't spread the rumour unless you sure you have see the bleeding
>picture.

>tung wai yip


I heard more :
When the director looked into the case.  He found that the two children
touching the 'bleeding child' are already dead, and all other are
reported missing.

As far as I heard about, this rumour originated from a radio programme
of Commercial Radio.  On 31 of Oct, a guy dial to a telephone programme
and told the above story.  Then people added and dropped something when
they passed the stories orally and comes the different versions.  People
all over Hong Kong hear about this then. 

The guy have made fun from people all over H.K. for the Hollyween.  It
is of course ridiculus to believe the story.  Would the director get a
Nobel Price if he can prove the existence of ghosts in this world by
his film?

Yau Chor Tung


kkk
From: nchan@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Nelson Chan)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:37:47 GMT
Subject: LegCo voted "general support" Patten's proposal
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

SCHKers,
 
With this now, I hope the gerneral poll will show more support to both
Patten and the LegCo regarding Patten's proposal such that when Jan. 93
comes the LegCo & Patten can claim there is a mandate from the people
of Hong Kong and can start debate/vote/implementing the changes.

Nelson  <><
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 11:02 Defying China, Hong Kong Legislators Back Political Reform
> 
>   HONG KONG -(AP-DJ)--In a blow to China's plans to scuttle political reforms
> in Hong Kong, legislators voted late Wednesday to back Hong Kong Governor
> Chris Patten's plans for increasing democracy in the territory in the run-up
> to the Chinese takeover in 1997. 
>   Members of the Legislative Council voted 30-21 to offer 'general support' to
> Patten's sweeping constitutional reform package to increase voter
> participation in the 1995 legislative elections. 
>   The victory for Patten comes after weeks of intense criticism of his reform
> program by senior officials of the Chinese Communist Party. China fears a
> democratizing Hong Kong because of the effect it might have on its own people.
>   Legislators also rejected an amendment demanding a smooth transition to
> Chinese rule and a post-1997 political structure satisfactory to both China
> and Britain, concepts advocated by local allies of the Chinese Communist
> regime. 
>   China says Patten's package violates previous Sino-British agreements and go
> beyond the Basic Law and the spirit of the 1984 Joint Declaration under which
> Hong Kong will be handed back to China. 
>   Chinese officials have warned that if Patten proceeds with his plans without
> Beijing's approval, Beijing will replace the colony's existing government
> despite promising Hong Kong 'a high degree of autonomy' for at least 50 years
> after the takeover. 
>   The next showdown in the Legislative Council should come early next year,
> when members vote on the specifics of Patten's package.
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Re: China's economic struct... an analysis
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:22:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard SSG/CCSY-PWD, UK.

>soc.culture.hongkong / achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (achen) / 11:30 am  Nov  5, 1992 /


This guy really wants to start a flame war. I am waiting for the following up.


>If you carefully study the above table of China's economic
>performance, you will notice that prior to the Tienamann
>Square incident China was heading for economic disaster...
>declining real GNP growth and double digit inflation, current
>account balance turning more negagive, and the growth in
>gold reserves losing steam.

>After Tienamann, and after the hardliners managed to
>consolidate their control of China, China's pre-Tienamann
>economic slide was quickly brought under control.
>The social 'dicipline' imposed by the hardliner's 
>economic policies drastically reversed China's pre-
>Tienamann economic slide.

>Before Tienamann, China's economy was overheating.
>Inflation had increased to an unacceptable range of
>being in the double digits.  After Tienamann,
>inflation was cut drastically to only approximately 2%.
>The pre-Tienamann decline in real GNP growth was reversed.
>The current account balance switched from negative -4.3 $bn
>to +12.0 $bn, and the gold reserves growth started to
>regain strength.

>One conclusion one can get from this analysis is that
>the path towards progress is a bloody one.  It is up
>to future generations to decide whether or not the
>death of a few thousand students (possibly misguided
>and used by the West) was an acceptible price to pay
>for progress of the nation as a whole.  It may be
>highly probable that in the minds of the hundreds 
>of millions of farmers and workers of China, who did
>not have the "privilege" nor the luck to be able to
>get a university education, that this may be an 
>acceptible price to pay.

>Since a university education is in all practicality
>government supported in China, each university student
>is indirectly supported by thousands of workers and
>farmers.  It is likey that these workers and farmers
>will have little sympathy for these students, especially
>those who, after they complete their undergraduate
>studies in China, go off to another country and never
>returning to China to pay off their debt to society.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: cantonese songs
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 15:51:13 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: york

In article <1992Nov8.190220.27277@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca (SHING-YAN EDDIE SY LING) writes:
>
>In article <6130181@hpopd.pwd.hp.com>, yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>
>Well..... think about it.... there are many music files that are shareware, ie 
			       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>no copyrihgt. 
>
>Eddie Ling
>cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca

Which are the shareware?  The music files or the software that plays these
music files?  Make sure about this since the copyright notice CLEARLY states
that it is illegal to reproduce the medium (i.e. the music) by any mean.

Although the people who download these music files are not for commerical 
purpose, it may still violates the copyright laws.

Think about this.  Say, someone called John just buy a software like Excel 4.0 
for Mac. and he copy the thing all over the places to his friends.  Strictly 
speaking he has seriously violated the laws even thought it is not for money.

Comments welcome.


- Louis
From: ysoh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Cara Soh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Roundtrip Air Ticket To Vancouver For Sale
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:11:53 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

One Northwest Air Ticket, Indianapolis to Vancouver.
Date : Dec. 26, 1992 -- Jan.3, 1993
Dates Can Be CHANGED!!! I will pay the $50 charge for switching dates.
Bought for over $400, now selling at $390. If you are interested, please
e-mail me as soon as possible. 

Cara Soh
(ysoh@silver)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: elkabban@regent.usask.ca (Ossama Elkabbani)
Subject: Listen to the Cantonese Songs on a Mac!
Keywords: Mac, sound 
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:18:20 GMT

Here's how-to-do:
1. Download the four .wav files to a Mac. (in binary mode)
2. Launch SoundExtractor1.31. The program is available at
sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the directory: /info-mac/sound/program. You
have to dehqx the BinHexed .hqx file first. Or you can ftp to
dale.ssc.gov and download the file SXTR131.sea.bin in the directory:
/pub/misc/audio in Macbinary mode, then double click the file to get the
program extracted.
3. Open the .wav file, a dialog box appears, just click OK in the box.
4. Click Save in the saving dialog box, a dialog box appears prompting
you to enter the sampling rate, enter 11000 in the box under Custom.
5. Click Choose in the box. The sound will be played whlie being
converted.
6. Quit the program. You can enjoy the songs whenever you double cilck
the files with a speaker icon.

enjoy!

O. E.

  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: fyhwong@athena.mit.edu (Francis Y Wong)
Subject: Re: What the hell is Lam's first name?(Re: LAM is God!!)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:34:28 GMT

In article <1dkurdINNrj6@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, ST102119@brownvm.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes:
|> Well, does anyone out there know what Lam's English first name? Its
|> sort of strange to call people by their last name... I don't think I
|> have ever heard of his first name and I am DYING to find that out.
|> 
|> I appreciate anyone who can enlighten me on this subject.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>                                            Chainsaw (yes, I'm back)

According to the Commercial Radio Chik Chak Chart posted by Aulina, first name of
Lam is George.

>4. George, Lam Chi-cheung  Friendship stays forever [you3 ai4 chang2 cun2]
    ^^^^^^^                 {yao oi cheung chuen}

Francis
Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:13888 soc.culture.china:29634 soc.culture.taiwan:15101
From: <juyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:01:38 -0500

In article <BxIGCt.G9y@unccsun.uncc.edu> tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Smart Handsome Chas) writes:
>My friend in HK watched the TVB Pearl's show on KCR's commercial, which was
>aired yesterday. They was no bleeding from that seventh kid. That all I know
>about the show. Correct if I am wrong about it. Thanks.
>
>Chas.
>

So, is it really an extra child who should not be appeared in the ad?  Could
you please provide us more information? Thanks!


Julia

P.S.  I would also like what reaction does KCR has?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asian.american
From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Racial hate crimes
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:24:57 GMT

georgew@hspice.portal.com (George Wu) writes:

>In article <1992Nov2.075701.22061@m.cs.uiuc.edu> watanabe@milton.cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe) writes:
>>leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:

>>>  Last Tuesday I was assaulted by a white 
>>>  guy here because he thought I am a Japanese. He ended up 
>>>  breaking my glasses and my bike and also gave me a few punches. 

>> [ . . . ]

>>There are a number of strategies you can take.

>>1. Ignoring - ignore anything he says, and calmly walk away

>>2. Running - this is more dangerous than (1) as it makes you

>>3. Arguing - the purpose of this kind of argument is not

>>4. Fighting - sometimes this is necessary, if it looks like
>>	he will physically detain you or attack you.

>     Press assault charges with the police.  It's in your own best interest
>as well as the interest of AAs in general to strongly discourage this sort of
>behavior.  Criminal charges are one of the best legal deterrents of such
>behavior.  Even if there's never a conviction, or even if formal charges are
>never filed, it's worth the effort.  The mere possibility that a repetition
>of this sort of behavior might land him in jail will hopefully deter this thug
>in the future.

>							George

It's in one's own best interest to avoid being assaulted.
I would rather run away than get beat up and press charges.

-Larry Watanabe
From: nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: nephilim
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:45:52 CST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <0ezhQ3G00UhBI4uXgO@andrew.cmu.edu>, John Teng <jt2o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> I'm deeply apologetic about my profane use of language. It's just that
> little *&^$C^&*& pissed the hell out of me.  Just a momentary loss of
> control, that's all.
> 
> Good day, all.
> John

Since Mr John is brave enough to apologize, I have to say sorry to every
netters for the language I used.  Frankly, I did expect to get more information
from HK from this newsgroup, like news.  However, I just can see some other
discussion, some of them are not really imformative.  So, I was pissed.
I admitted that I was out of control.  Well, anybody still wants to say
something to me(with a lot of X#$%), send them to me.  But not post them on
this newsgroup, since some people can't take the language.  I know some people
out there do subscript Chinese newspaper, please, if there is some big news,
post them.  I would like to see more of that!
Have good whatever!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pwai (Patrick Wai)
Subject: Looking for Ellen Shing
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: Adobe Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:46:07 GMT


Looking for Ellen Shing, a friend of mine from Saratoga, California.

She graduated from Santa Clara University in '89 and has since then moved
to HK to look for a job.

She was studying at HKU for a while and now she's probably working
somewhere (probably a marketing firm).

If anyone out there knows of her whereabouts, please email me her address,
or ask her to write me,

My address is: 372 Azalia Drive, E Palo Alto, CA 94303-2014, USA.
Email: pwai@mv.us.adobe.com

Thanks!


Patrick
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:39:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: This News Group Surprises Me!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard SSG/CCSY-PWD, UK.
From: nkjrm@taxus.uib.no (Rolf Manne)
Subject: Looking for Emily Wong Sheng Hung
Organization: University of Bergen
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:40:07 GMT

I lost contact with my friend Emily when I moved to Norway in 1976.
I believe that she has moved to the United States and that her little
sister Wong Sheng Ping studies in Canada. I am a little uncertain
about the transcription but  Emily's Chinese name is quite unusual, since it 
is a boy's name: Hung=hero. If you know about their whereabouts please 
answer by e-mail to Rolf.Manne@uib.no (my father-in-law) who will forward 
your message to me.

Rebecca Ip Suet Fun 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: frankiel@extro.is.su.edu.au (Frankie Lam)
Subject: Re: cantonese songs
Keywords: cantonese songs
Organization: Univeristy of Sydney Information Services
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:20:36 GMT

In article <9231113.15665@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) writes:

>For those who DON'T have a SUN, but DO have a PC and an audio sound card 
>to play .wav files                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No, you don't have to buy a sound card if you just want to listen songs
under Windows 3.1. There is a PC internal speaker driver plays .wav files
in resonably good quality. Today, I unload pub/pc/win3/sounds/cant_sng.zip
from ftp.cica.indiana.edu (129.79.20.84) and it's real good. Be warned,
the file size is about 900KB zipped (1.4MB unzipped) and contains 4
songs (each about 40 seconds long).

Frankie Lam, Sydney University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Re: This News Group Surprises Me!
From: raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man)
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:34:43 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

The Constitution, Art. II Sect. 1:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United
States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be
eligible  to the Office of the President;...

BUT I imagine a child born to citizen parents living oversea can be
a natural born citizen if some proper procedure is followed.
-- 
Just call me `Man'. 
"And why take ye thought for "    --   Matt. 6:28
raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:45:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Why Chinese aura (or ghost) is used to be evil and disgusting?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard SSG/CCSY-PWD, UK.