From: Jason.Wong@p0.f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org (Jason Wong)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: "What Child is this who lay to rest....."
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:56:03 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:244/118.0 - Renzo's Roost, Hamilton ON

-->In a message to Jason Wong on Dec. 12, 1992, Kiev Lo wrote..<--

 JW> marriage? I mean, if you have no intention on commitment, why waste
 JW> your time? Well, surprisingly, some of the girls agreed with me, but

 That's what I thought.  You're right, most girls expect long romantic
 relationships with committment; and committment is the keyword.  I'm glad
 to hear that you took the time to starighten them out.

Well, I really don't know if I did straightened them out. I just said my 
peace.

 As bad as it sounds, many guys really think that's the way to go.  What
 makes me sad is seeing those Junior High Spanish (from South American
....
 Somehow, I think just a few of those kids are capable enough to have
 an influence on the moral values in our society.  Oh the other hand,
 I can't just blame it all on them, since they were educated under a

Ahhhh morality. That's something that is very difficult to teach. 
Unfortunately, it appears they don't have much of a basis for their morality.
I wish our society would try to teach morality instead of avoiding it. It's
really sad and scary to see. I saw a program in on TV about the educational
system in the States. Kids in elementary school were threatening the teachers
with bodily harm! I couldn't believe it! I don't know where the blame goes;
is it on the parents or the media for propagating the "Tought" attitude.
Also, I see the problem with the attitude of boys towards the girls is due
to a lack of respect. Of course the media has a lot to do with it...you know
...portraying females as "Sex Toys" for boys. Very sad indeed!! I can sense
that you have respect for females, I mean you don't see them as sex objects.
That's refreshing! Don't ever let anyone convince you otherwise. 

 And yes, you did sound like a priest...  What were the girl's reaction
 when the guys said that they're "out for one thing and one thing only"?

Well, they just sighed. They didn't show any great objection to that 
statement. I actually had expected a few of them to really yell at the guys.
However, I think they were afraid of being labelled a "nerd" or "not with it".
You know. The usual put down for people who try to uphold some of what is
right.

 JW> Good for you. At least some of us still have our priorities right. :]
 JW> Although I don't have an opportunity to practice those priorities.....

 Maybe you _didn't give_ yourself an opportunity to practice those
 priorities!  Oh well, I'm glad to know that there're still saints out
 there.  (sorry Jay, I was just teaseing you.)
Thanks that's quite a compliment :] althought I'm far from being a true Saint.
Practicing those priorities....well I just don't have the time. May be after
I finish school. Then, hopefully, I'll find the time.

 JW> Moderator to allow us the use of this echo until we find a
 JW> common echo to which we can move our messages.

 Really?  Did he send you a message and told you that you're too old?
 Anyways...emm...I can't think of any now...<here comes the light bulb>
 ...ahhh...how about the Netmail area?  It's okay with me since I have
 free Netmail priviledge and am able to send Netmail anywhere I want.
 Do you have to pay for Netmail on your BBS?  Does your BBS "subscribe"
 to the Fidonet HIGH_ED Echo?  That would be a good place for us to
 continue our messages too.

First of all, the moderator didn't send me any warning. I just read the rules
posted by him. I'd thought perhaps I should contact him and let him know of
my situation. I got a message from him...he also sent you and someone else
the same message...saying that it's okay for now so long as we stay within
the guidelines. I don't think we'll have any problems with that. Secondly,
I do get Netmail for free however, it has proved to be rather unreliable. I'll
keep testing it and if it becomes more stable, I'll switch our messages over
to that area. Also, I took a look at High_Ed echo. The messages on there
don't really look like chatting....looks more like some very serious 
discussions. I think our messages will be a little out of place....Not that
these aren't serious. :] Well, we'll just keep posting here until the 
moderator really suggests that we move on to another echo.

BTW, how did your exams go? I just finished my last exam today. It was 
scheduled for 2 hours but I finished in 30minutes! I'm not sure if that was
good. It's either I knew my stuff really well or I was completely off base!
I had the hardest time studying for this exam. I couldn't get motivated last
night....not good! I think it was due to the fact that yesterday, I had an
anatomy exam that I had completely over studied for. But I'm glad that I'd
over studied that one. I think I did alright. The exams weren't had...it was
just there was so much to know...not necessarily to understand...but just
to memorize. It's quite different from university. I hope I'll be permitted
to stay in the program. :]

I'm not sure if you'll have time to reply before Christmas so.....I hope
you and your family will have a Merry Christmas and a Wonderful New Year.
In the coming year, may your "worst of times" be no worse than the "best of
times" in the year gone by.

Regards,
Jason


... "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, ...And he will be 
...  called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of
...  Peace."    

--  
uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!244!118.0!Jason.Wong
Internet: Jason.Wong@p0.f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org