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Subject: Re: Power Pop Recommendations (was Re: Kronto Sin
From: doug@doug.ksc.nasa.gov (doug hammond)
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:17:21 EST
 <1992Apr10.020619.12576@predator.vpharm.com> <1992Apr10.121337.2505@titan.ksc.nasa.gov> <1992Apr10.174924.17895@predator.vpharm.com>
Organization: NASA - Kennedy Space Center

In article <1992Apr10.174924.17895@predator.vpharm.com> dap@predator.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:

>I agree that these are not "power pop." That's one reason I didn't include them
>on my original list. But since they were brought up by someone else, I added
>some commentary.

Well, I came in on the middle of this, so there you go.  Anyway...

>A few notes about Ambrosia

>1) The cover of the first album was once voted "worst cover of all time." 
>Well, I dunno about
>that. But it isn't the finest cover art you'll ever see. That's what you
>get when you have a third rate record company (20th Century) behind you...

Hee-hee, whatever the 1st cover "lacked" they must have tried to make up for on
the second, with it's outlandish fold-out pyramid and etc...


>2) The first song, "Nice Nice Very Nice" features lyrics by Kurt Vonegut.
>They asked him to write some lyrics for them, and he did.

Interesting...  I didn't realize those were written exclusively for them.


Doug
From: la02@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: jazz group?
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:45:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: vaxb.1992Apr10.134542.1
Organization: University of North Texas


Where is the rec.music.jazz category


JAZZ lover
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From: lorne.murphy@rose.uucp (lorne murphy)
Subject: RUSH conference! Yes!
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:01:55 GMT
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Date Entered: 04-10-92 22:19
A RUSH conference? My vote is YES!!!!!

What about a "70's progressive" conference? This could include many!

LM
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From: lorne.murphy@rose.com (lorne murphy)
Subject: Re: YESYEARS Question
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:00:17 GMT
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Date Entered: 04-15-92 19:03
V0>On a final note....Rabin CAN sing, but his guitar parts are VERY run-of-the-m
V0>and cliched

Very true indeed. His solo albums sound like BIG GENERATOR with
Rabin on lead vocals.

ABWH vs. UNION? I'd say ABWH is better by...hmmm... 1000 miles.

UNION isn't all bad though... a couple of good tracks. Another Howe
guitar masterpiece not unlike MOOD FOR A DAY and CLAP...

LM
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From: be126@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Powers)
Subject: Alex Harvey CD's (?)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 17:12:02 GMT


OK, I've looked in all the stores and catalogs...

...has ANYBODY seen any of Alex Harveys Albums on CD - even on
import? Especially "And now.." and their live album?

Thanks for any help...

--Bob
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From: bry@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bryan Glancey)
Subject: Charts wanted for radio station.....
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:57:08 GMT

	If anyone out there runs mailing list, or knows of anyone running mail
ing list of music charts (Top tens, top 100, top whatever) from any where and
everywhere. Could you please put me permantily on the list. I will use these
charts to post in the raido station and to help DJ have an idea about what's
going on in the world. 
			Thanks;
						Bryan Glancey
						Dirrector WTSC 91.1 FM 
						Clarkson University
From: aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: NEW  Art Of Noise??
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:33:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr9.013313.10427
Reply-To: aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)



a few weeks ago, Billboard magazine listed a new (?) Art Of Noise song
on their Club Breakout mini-chart.  I haven't seen anything more about
it and I don't recall the title.  

Does anyone know anything about it?  Is there a new album?  Is this
somehow connected to the relatively new compilation in the UK of AoN
dance-ish re-mixes?  (about a month or two ago)

???????


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From: lehe@lulea.trab.se (Lennart Hedenstr|m)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: ROXETTE (rare CD forsale)
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:41:37 GMT
Organization: Telia Research AB, Aurorum 6, 951 75 Lulea, Sweden

Band   : Roxette
Title  : Pearls Of Passion
Format : CD
Year   : 1986
Songs  :
 1. Soul Deep
 2. Secrets That She Keeps
 3. Goodbye To You
 4. I Call Your Name
 5. Surrender
 6. Voices
 7. Neverending Love
 8. Call Of The Wild
 9. Joy Of A Toy
10. From One Heart To Another
11. Like Lovers Do
12. So Far Away

This album was only released in Sweden. It's their first album.
It came out before they hit it off big with _Look Sharp_ and
_Joyride_.

It's almost impossible to find even in Sweden these days.

If you're interested e-mail : lehe@lulea.trab.se

Lennart
From: millia@athena.cs.uga.edu (David W. Millians)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Residents on KPFA April 27th- HELP!
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:38:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


The Residents, probably my all time - no make that definitely - favorite
band are supposed to be doing something on KPFA in Berkeley (I believe)
on the morning of April 27th. It is probably affiliated with the new 
album. I would appreciate it if somebody willing to tape the show would
e-mail me and let me know. I would eternally in your debt. I live in 
Athens, Ga; maybe somebody would do it for an REM boot or two?
The better the tape deck you have, the better. I would prefer metal tape
with dolby C recording- I'll pay you back for the tape and postage, too.

-- 
Stimpson J. Millians             millia@athena.cs.uga.edu 
The Sweetest Thing I Ever Saw, I Took A Walk In The Dark. 
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From: hu_tm@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Timothy M Hu)
Subject: Tom Petty
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:20:46 GMT

Did anyone get a chance to tape the Tom Petty broadcast on West Wood 1 
last week? It was from his Into the Great Wide Open tour. From the last
10 minutes I caught, it didn't sound bad at all. If you taped it,
could you drop me a line. I'd like to get a copy. Thanks.

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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Cocteau Twins boots?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:34:49 GMT


I'm looking for any Cocteau Twins boots that I can find.  CD would be great,
but I'm willing to trade tapes as well.  Please mail me.
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From: a0s5102@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Mitchell R Dickerman)
Subject: Re: The Chameleons U.K.
Summary: A most excellent band 
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:22:01 GMT

cxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher Fenton) asked about the Chameleons.
The Chameleons were my most favorite band, with wonderful guitars and 
neat wall-of-sound backgrounds, though not as grungy as some other
bands like Kitchens Of Distinction get. Mark Burgess led them, and they
released three albums proper: _Script Of The Bridge_, _What Does Anything
Mean? Basically_ and _Strange Times_. The tune you mentioned, "Swamp Thing"
is from the last album which, unlike the other two, is not on CD. They
broke up after it came out, and I suppose there were legal issues that
prevented this from getting released. There are also 3 other CDs available,
_The Fan And The Bellows_, a collection of early singles, _Tripping Dogs_,
a rehearsal from 1985 (I think), and _The John Peel Sessions_. I strongly
recommend all of their material. And go check with your local cool used
record store for _Strange Times_, it's probably one of the best albums EVER.

Anyway, after they split, Mark Burgess and drummer John Lever hooked up with
two other guys and formed The Sun And The Moon, who released one eponymous
album (available on CD) and a brilliant EP, and then promptly broke up. Mark
has since appeared on the _1967_ tribute album, covering "You Only Live Twice".
Supposedly he's been working on a solo album, but I haven't seen anything. 
Anybody have any info?

The other two members of the band, Reg Smithies and Dave Fielding, formed
The Reegs, who recently released _Return Of The Sea Monkeys_ (on CD), a
compilation of their singles. It's really quite good, rather close to the
Chameleons style, though without Mark's wonderfully expressive vocals.

Well, I hope you found this of interest. I have a full discography which I
will post sometime after I get a job. :)

Mitch

P.S. A few years ago, I got a terrific Chameleons bootleg through some guy
on the net. It was from their Philadelphia show in Feb of '87, I believe.
Unfortunately, it seems to have disappeared on me. If anyone has boots,
please let me know, I'd love to get that back. Thanks.
From: krj@convex.cl.msu.edu (Ken Josenhans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Power Pop Recommendations
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:54:14 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, East Lansing

In article <1992Apr3.142941.16786@predator.vpharm.com> 
   dap@predator.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:
)In article <1616@rufus.UUCP> 
)        ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger) writes:
)>> Rachael Sweet--especially the first album (Stiff/Epic)
)>
)>It's worthwhile to note that the original English release features a slightly
)>different track lineup *and mixes* than the Stiff/Epic domestic release.
)
)Correct. Actually, I have both and think the original mixes are better.
)Rhino just released a misleadingly titled Rachael Sweet best-of that
)contains the entire first album and a small number of tracks from the
)the subequent three albums and Hairspray single. I don't know which mixes
)they used for this album.

This was such a problem for stuff that the Columbia labels licensed
from UK labels (mostly Stiff) in the late 70's.  Lene Lovich's STATELESS
was resequenced, remixed, and in at least one case *the tape speed was
changed!!*.  Elvis Costello's first three albums all shuffled tracks.
There are probably other examples from the era I can't recall right 
now.

Does anyone know what was going through Columbia's corporate brain in 
this period?  (Does anyone know which mixes appear on the Rhino Lovich
CDs?)


--
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From: meza@techlaw.ogi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: MADONNA: Where is she?
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:42:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: techlaw.1992Apr10.174201.6809
Organization: MARGER JOHNSON McCOLLOM & STOLOWITZ Inc, Portland OR

In article <1992Apr9.043813.15298@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>  
ggarcia@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Gilbert Garcia) writes:
> Does anyone know what is going on with Madonna right now?  I've heard that
> she's done with her new album.  She's supposedly waiting to sign a big deal
> with Time Warner before she can release it, is this true?
> 
> Is there any news out there about her 'exotic book'?  Anyone heard about her
> appearing in Michael Jackson's new video?  What about her new movie: A
> League of Their Own (with Geena Davis)?  When does this come out?
> 
> Just a curious Madonna fan.

At this very second, Madonna is filming a movie with (that guy who played the  
lead in the Last Temptation of Christ) in Portland, Oregon.

Just a Portland resident,

Peter J. Meza
meza@techlaw.com
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From: lorne.murphy@rose.uucp (lorne murphy)
Subject: Hackett leaves Genesi
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:02:45 GMT
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Date Entered: 04-10-92 23:05
To the person who asked why Steve Hackett left Genesis:

Hackett left in 1977 because of a dispute with the band (primarily with
Collins) over their selection process. He felt he wasn't getting enough
of "his" material ON the Genesis albums. They felt that their "democratic"
selection process had worked rather well up until then... and that's the way
it will stay sorta thing. Hackett said in 1980: "Their selection process
was rather arbitrary. Although I was pleased with my contribution to the
last Genesis album I was on, "WIND AND WUTHERING"." Collins later said
"Steve basically demanded that 25% of the album be given over to him. His
attitude was unreasonable, but at the same time...understandable. I felt
that he should have simply done another solo album to get those writings out
of his system. that's what solo albums are for. He was the first to do a
solo album. All he had to do was record another. Steve could have done
evrything he's doing now - and stayed in Genesis."

As a matter of fact, "UNQUIET SLUMBERS FOR THE SLEEPERS...IN THAT QUIET
EARTH" Was originally going to be one title, credited as a band composition,
but Hackett wanted it to be split up, as he and Rutherford wrote the first
half.

If you are into Hackett at all, check out "VOYAGE OF THE ACOLYTE", (1975),
PLEASE DON'T TOUCH (1977), and the amazing SPECTRAL MORNINGS (1978?).
However, I don't recommend "CURED". The rest... well.. are OK. Worth getting
if you're a die-hard Genesis fan.  Also Check out GTR (1985).. a
collaboration featuring Hackett and Steve Howe (ex of Yes) co-writing and
playing together!


LM
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From: thomasl@mtl.mit.edu (Thomas J Lohman)
Subject: Re: Police/Sting Ripoffs 
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:01:29 GMT

In article <32694@darkstar.ucsc.edu> cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Chris.Hilker) writes:
>

>called "Every Breath I Take." I think comparisons are valid. The word
>"ripoff" does spring to mind, especially since Sting claims that the song
>appeared to him fully written one night.

I like most of Sting's music, and think its unfair to criticize him 
based on his borrowing of musical ideas and concepts which most artists
do, but I do get perturbed at his lack of giving credit where credit
is due.  An example would be "The Soul Cages" release which I happen to enjoy
but I don't remember him saying where the title came from.  Now I'm
pretty sure that he "stole" the concept of the song and the title from
an Irish short story called "The Soul Cages"  written back in the late
1700s I believe.  If this proves that he is well read then great, but I think 
that he should at least credit the author with the idea for the song, and
not give the impression that he thought up the title or it came to him
in a dream...Can anyone verify that he indeed took the title and idea
from the short story?


--tom
From: chris@wg.estec.esa.nl (Milquetoast)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: My Bloody Valentine Live ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:41:50 GMT

>MBV will play in Holland in a few weeks. I am considering to watch them but
>i am afraid again this is such an arrogant UK act who play for half an hour
>with their backs towards the audience. Is there anyone who can give me
>any information how they are alive?

According to the English music press they are painfully loud. They are
supposedly the inspiration of countless shoegazing bands, so I wouldn't
expect too much movement from them. Against that they're being supported by
curve, who are reported to be bloody excellent live.

Regards


Chris
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From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Subject: Re: YESYEARS Question
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:56:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.090018.8894@rose.com> lorne.murphy@rose.com (lorne murphy) writes:
>ABWH vs. UNION? I'd say ABWH is better by...hmmm... 1000 miles.

  Most people seem to think this. I don't want to start a new argument here,
but I actually enjoyed Union a great deal. The tracks by Squire, Rabin, White,
and Kaye are particularly well done. Miracle of Life and The More We Live- Let
Go are brilliant. It's too bad that only four of their tracks made it to the
album, while ABWH had around eight. I enjoy the ABWH tunes, as well, but they
seem a little disjointed at times, when compared to the very solid SRWK tunes.
But hey... they're all Yes, and they're all great. You have to understand that
any criticism I make IS to be taken very lightly, as I think everything the
band has ever done is amazing.   
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From: tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb)
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:15:54 GMT

In article <92100.224336U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> <U14540@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.022627.15011@nic.unh.edu>, tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C
>Webb) says:
>>
>>  I couldn't agree with you more! Guns 'N Roses is THE most overrated band.
> [stuff deleted]
>Yeah you're right Guns and Roses sucks. Debbie Gibson, Phil Collins, Amy Grant
>and CC Music Factory are the coolest bands out there today. I agree Sweet Child
>of Mine was the worst song ever written. God and I really hate it when G and r
>swear on their albums. It sends me running for my bible. Yeah, you're also

  They're just swearing for the sake of swearing, not because it has any
meaning to the music (whatever music there is, if any). They just like to be
controversial.

>right about the dissonant guitar work. Why even have a guitar when you can

  I'm talking about listening to GOOD guitar players like Steve Howe, John
McLaughlin, or Robert Fripp. Not hackers like Slash who don't even know which
end of the instrument to blow into.
 
>simulate the sound on a synthesizer. I also hate groups that write their own
>songs. It's just too original for me. Just give me some hip-hop beep bop

  That's funny, I like groups that write their own songs, just as long as they
know what the hell they're doing.

>and off to the bathroom I go to wack off. You guys would make great music
>critics if you had ears.

  Thanks for the compliment.



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From: aafloy@cs.hw.ac.uk (Hans Aafloy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Genesis more creative than Yes??!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:57:03 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

>>The releases of  Going For the One  and  Then there were Three ( 1977 )
>>was the last time the two bands was making  m u s i c.
>>
>>At present they're  o n l y  making money.
>>
>>Hans.
>
>  Sorry, Hans, you get the play-at-home version. Genesis is only making money,
>while Yes has been making excellent music consistently since they originated.
>If you knew anything about Yes, you'd know they're not in it for the money.
>

 Well... I didn't exactly say that, did I ?

 The case is that I don't consider "Don't kill the Whale" as exellent music.
 Any housewife could play that one on the guitar.
 
 However I consider "Parallells" exellent music.

 Similarly - "Burning Rope" vs. "Abacab".

 And that's what happened in 1977.

 Hans.
From: vp@fct.unl.pt (Vasco Pedro)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Whose is this song?
Date: 11 Apr 92 19:42:11 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa -- Lisbon, Portugal


Hi

Can anyone help me identify a song of which I only know these verses:

	[nah nah nah nah]
	[nah nah nah naaah nah]
	I loved you once
	Don't love you anymore

	...

	These eyes are blind
	This a pure thing	[not sure about his one though]
	[nah nah nah nah]
	[nah nah nah nananah]

I guess this is part of the song's refrain as it gets sung at least
twice during the song.

Also, it is a guy singing and it sounds a bit like a mellower Sisters
of Mercy.

Any hint greatly welcomed.

Cheers,
Vasco Pedro




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From: stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (needs changing)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: THE TEN MOST OVERRATED ROCK BANDS EVER(GNR)
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:38:39 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <32743@darkstar.ucsc.edu> cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Chris.Hilker) writes:
>
>What makes you think this doesn't apply equally to W. Axl Rose? Don't 
>give me an "Oh, no, Axl would never do that" number. Just because 
>a group uses guitars in its product doesn't mean they don't take
>shortcuts in the studio.

	Doubling voices, and remixing them are sure of hell alot different
than using electronic equipment to give the singer a fake vocal
range.  The "others" obviously use the voice-correctioning (it also can
rasie or lower pitches) equipment, have you ever heard them sing live?

Axl sings live, and he hits the notes he does on the record, they aren't
artificial.  Hell, if remixing was illegal there'd be no such thing as
singing anymore!


Alex Stevens
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From: buckmr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Chart: UK Charts for Week Ending 18th April 1992
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:49:53 GMT

ccaaand@ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Dawson) writes:

>UK Top 40 Singles for Week Ending 18th April 1992.

>TW  LW  TITLE, Artist  (Label)

> 1   2  DEEPLY DIPPY, Right Said Fred  (Tug) [1st week at #1]
Oh-my-god. I-could-die. :-)
> 5   4  JOY, Soul II Soul  (Ten)
How is this? Anywhere near their original brilliance? I heard Caron Wheeler is
back with them.
>11   5  WHY, Annie Lennox  (RCA)
Is her new album any good?
>20 NEW  MAKE IT HAPPEN, Mariah Carey  (Columbia)
Is the CD single with the C+C remixes out in the UK?
>22 NEW  ULTIMATE TRUNK FUNK (THE EP), 
>              The Brand New Heavies Featuring N'Dea Davenport  (Acid Jazz/ffrr)
Well, this is interesting. N'Dea is one of Madonna's backup singers on the
BLONDE AMBITION tour.

> 1 NEW  DIVA, Annie Lennox  (RCA) [1st week at #1]
Great title, anyway....

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