HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aspolito@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (Anthony S Polito)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: Re: Kallisti
Date: 3 Jan 93 00:39:09 GMT
Organization: Holy Temple of Frog

In article <MJD.93Jan2123139@saul.cis.upenn.edu> mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Fokker DR1") writes:
>I recommend:
>
>	Temple of Saints Big Bird and Snuffle-upagus.
>
>--
>
>   Nihil tam absurde dici potest, quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.
>Mark-Jason Dominus 	  			    mjd@central.cis.upenn.edu 

Hmm, just to be a picky little bastard, isn't that snuffle-uffagus?  I 
watch the show whenever I remember to, and I'm pretty sure there are f's in
his (her?) last name (plus I can count to 12 now, so HA!)
From: silver@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Nina Karp)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: Discordian Comic Book...
Date: 25 Dec 1992 20:21:25 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu

Mu Press (home of Desert Peach) has just released _Critturs, Hairballs From
Hell_.  It's written and drawn by a devout Discordian, and it shows...
more brain food for all you twisted little minds out there.

(nina)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: donnell@seahorse.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Kallisti
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:47:53 GMT

In article <saintjx.04ge@redorc.chi.il.us> saintjx@redorc.chi.il.us (Andy Swehttam) writes:
>
>
>What I wonder is: is there still any POEE temples out there or what? Or has
>everyone sold out and become other such factions:
>
>So far I have seen the lights of many new/old god(desse)s...
>Javacrucianism, SPAM, and now ol' Wally from WalMart... what is next?
>
>
>Jonas Xavier
>(The Saint)

Well, I run "The Ed Wood Jr. Cabal", but I don't know how many folks can
fit in my Pineal gland....

Pax
					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: tonyd@lclark.edu (Anthony Davis)
Subject: Re: Kallisti
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:33:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.174753.6094@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@seahorse.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>In article <saintjx.04ge@redorc.chi.il.us> saintjx@redorc.chi.il.us (Andy Swehttam) writes:
>>
>>
>>What I wonder is: is there still any POEE temples out there or what? Or has
>>everyone sold out and become other such factions:
>>
>>So far I have seen the lights of many new/old god(desse)s...
>>Javacrucianism, SPAM, and now ol' Wally from WalMart... what is next?
>>
>>
>>Jonas Xavier
>>(The Saint)
>
>Well, I run "The Ed Wood Jr. Cabal", but I don't know how many folks can
>fit in my Pineal gland....
>
>Pax
>					--Judex--
>

more than you'd think Judex... more than you'd think...

tonyyd

Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Discordia in music ......
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 17:57:16 GMT

In article <7691@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk> simon@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Simon) writes:
>mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec) writes:
>
>>In article <Bz4122.HE9@unix.amherst.edu> mcspinks@unix.amherst.edu (Guholdonk-doorstop) writes:
>>>There's a song "Kick out the jams" that was mentioned in Illuminatus. I know
>>>Blue Oyster Cult does a version. 
>
Yeah, the original, and better version is by the MC5, and can be found on the
album "Kick Out The Jams". BOC restores the correct lyrics to the opening
dialogue.

>>Is their any relationship between the _Illuminatus_ trilogy and
>>_The Illuminatus Chronicles_ by Robert Anton Wilson?
>
>Yea, thet were both written by the same person.
>
And they deal with the same families. It should be blatantly obvious
that many of the characters in the Historical Illuminatus chronicles,
are the ancesotrs of characters in "Illuminatus" and "Schrodingers Cat".

Have a New Year!
Pax
					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: tonyd@lclark.edu (Anthony Davis)
Subject: Re: Kallisti
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 08:54:56 GMT

In article <1i5taaINN51d@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> john@gu.uwa.edu.au (John West) writes:
>aspolito@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (Anthony S Polito) writes:
>
>>Hmm, just to be a picky little bastard, isn't that snuffle-uffagus?  I 
>>watch the show whenever I remember to, and I'm pretty sure there are f's in
>>his (her?) last name (plus I can count to 12 now, so HA!)
>
>Nope. Most definitely Snuffle-upagus. We had a slight disagreement over the
>naming of a computer, and ended up phoning the ABC (the network that shows
>SS in Australia) and asking. 
>
>John West
>(but do you know his first name?)
>--
>For the humour impaired: Insert a :-) after every third word

Well.... i wont name my temple that, but it is definitely sponsored by
the number 5.
MY patron saint is that dude that throws the fish...

tonyd
From: john@gu.uwa.edu.au (John West)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: Re: Kallisti
Date: 3 Jan 1993 05:24:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: mackerel.gu.uwa.edu.au

aspolito@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (Anthony S Polito) writes:

>Hmm, just to be a picky little bastard, isn't that snuffle-uffagus?  I 
>watch the show whenever I remember to, and I'm pretty sure there are f's in
>his (her?) last name (plus I can count to 12 now, so HA!)

Nope. Most definitely Snuffle-upagus. We had a slight disagreement over the
naming of a computer, and ended up phoning the ABC (the network that shows
SS in Australia) and asking. 

John West
(but do you know his first name?)
--
For the humour impaired: Insert a :-) after every third word
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
From: tonyd@lclark.edu (Anthony Davis)
Subject: Re: Kallisti
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:13:16 GMT

well... i'd be a POEE temple... but it's absolutely essential that
i find a real cool name for it first...


boogedy,
tonyd
From: mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Fokker DR1")
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: Re: Kallisti
Date: 2 Jan 93 17:31:39 GMT
Organization: Eaters of Wisdom
In-reply-to: tonyd@lclark.edu's message of 31 Dec 92 18:13:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.181316.14183@lclark.edu> tonyd@lclark.edu (Anthony Davis) writes:
   well... i'd be a POEE temple... but it's absolutely essential that
   i find a real cool name for it first...

I recommend:

	Temple of Saints Big Bird and Snuffle-upagus.

--

   Nihil tam absurde dici potest, quod non dicatur ab aliquo philosophorum.
Mark-Jason Dominus 	  			    mjd@central.cis.upenn.edu
From: mpython@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Parv Melb)
Newsgroups: alt.discordia
Subject: Merry What?
Date: 26 Dec 92 04:37:31
Organization: Worcester Discordian Society, 17th Deformed Church
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu

yeah,yeah,yeah... what's all this Merry Christmas stuff? I mean, they
called me daft for celebrating Afflux in my own particular..umm...
idiom.. that being "Stay up as long as possible".. which I do anyways,
hollerdaze or not, but that's not the point.. the point is that I'm
sick of having it rubbed in my face.. they use the excuse that some
guy was born 2000 years ago, only to be nailed up to a tree 'cause he
said people should be nice to each other.. well, duh! Any peasant
knows That... i mean, persecute your fellow serf, and what do ya get?
A pissed-off serf, that's what.. but that's not the point the point is
that people should be nice to each other all year 'round, not just in
late December.. how 'bout mid-February, when it gets really cold? Oh,
sorry.. that's what Valentine's Day's for, like I'VE been able to tell
these past few years... but that's not my point, my point is.. oh,
damn, the tip's gone dodgy.. don't worry, the caffeine will wear off
any time now..

Dru'El the Chaotic
POPE, Worcester Discordian Society, 17th Deformed Church of the CyberGweep
Keeper of the Faith, HDRC
BS B.S. etc.etc.
member, Nice Guys Anonymous ("Hi, my name's Jer, and I'm a Nice Guy(tm)" 
					"Hi, Jer" )
whatever else goes here. so there
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From: annie@canetoad.UUCP (Picasso-puss)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: The Architect Visits Art
Distribution: world
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:08:35 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love

Postulate:
A building is an extension of the mind which envisioned it.
To call a building mindless is to say that either it has never
existed, or that it has always been. It cannot be said.
Instead, it may be that we do not wish to know such a mind
or such a building. Ignorance is, at once, our refuge and
our enemy.

			*	*	*

In Fort Worth, Texas are two museums. They face each other
across a hilly green. One is the future, staring into the
past; one is your best friend's home.

The Museum of the Future crouches on a hill, four sharp
corners turned against the sky. "I am steel. I am stone. I am
the sum of my materials, nothing more." It shuns even the
gentle wind.

To enter is to start a fight. High ceilings and narrow rooms 
mock the art. The paintings, dejected, hang low to the floor,
perchance to draw warmth from the humans who shiver and
hurry past.

"Did we see all the rooms?"
"I don't care. Let's leave."

The paintings weep, and their cold oily tears run down the
canvases to muddy the vinyl baseboards. Blue-gray fluorescents
drone victory.

Escape.

Look down the hill to a grove of trees. Your Best Friend's 
Museum lies concealed within, all but the seductive curve of
the roof. Do the trees wriggle in anticipation, or has the
roof winked to include you in some private joke?

Enter the grove and become the hidden deer in an Ansel
Adams photograph, surrounded by silver glowing tree trunks and

the sound of water,
lapping
slapping
gurling into your skin.

A building lounges on the grass, flanked by two long shallow
pools. On the library-wide steps leading up to a stone veranda,
children play. Their laughter tumbles out sideways to displace
the water, which flows over the sides and drains away.

By some quiet trick the museum is filled, corner to corner,
with good north light. Each room presents itself to you in
happy, contented order--the curtseying offspring of proud
country gentlefolk. You think that the hosts may step out to
greet you, a steaming mug in hand. You want to drink the
draught down and sleep. The paintings will stand sentinel
and send you your dreams.

			*	*	*

Postulate:
A human is an extension of the home which created it. To
call one homeless is to say that...cannot be...we do not...
our enemy.


--
...uunet!canetoad!annie                          canetoad!annie@uunet.uu.net
From: annie@canetoad.UUCP (Picasso-puss)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: The Architect
Distribution: world
Date: 2 Jan 93 20:53:34 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love

He is back and he is more beautiful than ever. Beauty is
only as deep as the lie he tells when the lights are on.

He turned off the light and spoke the truth: When he was
in Tokyo, he thought that it was New York with the signs
painted over in sweeping cross stitch. Everyone hurried
just as much.

He noticed one building. And then another. Buildings as
long and tall as our own twin towers. What difference
did he see? The twin towers gripped the earth and
strained toward the sky. Posture stiff, as though they
were about to get their knuckles rapped for slouching.

The buildings in Tokyo--no matter how large--danced
and floated, and the people hurred because they knew
that these structures had only touched down for a visit.


--
...uunet!canetoad!annie                          canetoad!annie@uunet.uu.net
From: annie@canetoad.UUCP (Picasso-puss)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: The Architect in Bangkok
Distribution: world
Date: 2 Jan 93 21:17:56 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love

Beware, he said. Bangkok has needs. It will come to you,
desperate and hot and hungry, or cold and proud and regal.
Or in any of a thousand disguises. Once it has fed, take fear.
He curled his hands lightly around my neck. Fear it as I fear 
women. I would not want to find you, throat slit, in the 
morning. He let his hands fall and stared past me, remembering.

He walked down the strip and collected the calling cards. 
The hawkers spoke a river of English and Thai, urgently pressing
the cards into his palm. Sometimes laminated, sometimes a simple
printed sheet, the cards listed each bar's attractions.

nude dancers
live sex
free beer

The free beer seemed a good idea.

Red shag carpeting grew on the walls. The fibers were heavy with
all that they absorbed: the moist, dark thoughts of those who
sit and watch.

He sat on the red, cushioned bench and stared up at the platform
in the center of the room. A wooden-railed bar and tough-looking
bartenders guarded the unreality being acted out on stage.

A patron leaned against the bar to have a cigarette served directly
to his mouth, on chopsticks which protruded from a pretty Thai
pudendum: first she squatted and picked up the cigarette. Then,
angling her hips, one foot lightly on the bar, she delivered the
goods. She was all of 14 years old.

Another man ordered a bottle of beer. The amazing, the unstoppable,
the precocious pudendums to the rescue again. The woman slid the
bottle up between her legs, and *pop* handed the uncapped drink
down to the bar. She was sweating a little, and she sat down
quickly, pressing her vulva to the stage.

--
...uunet!canetoad!annie                          canetoad!annie@uunet.uu.net

Newsgroups: alt.prose,alt.,pulp
From: art@spdcc.com (Art Cohen)
Subject: The Living One
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:25:49 GMT

Dear Friends,

I would like to know if anyone has read "The Living One," a new novel from Random House by Lewis Gannett.  It's just started to appear in bookstores.

My purpose in asking is that the writer, Lewis Gannett, is a friend of mine.  He and I are curious about people's reactions.

I recommend the book to all who like horror.  It's a good read, I promise.  The book centers around the diabolical and charming Baron Malcolm Spoor and his son Torrance.  Spoor has a deep secret--he is older than he looks, much older--and Torrance Spoor is about to find out that the family curse his father has told him about is not a hoax.

But a shadowy government scientist, researching ESP, stumbles on the Baron Spoor and begins to understand his intensions.  He finds himself caught between a fascination with Malcom Spoor's awsome power, and the terrible fate that awaits the sixteen year old Torrance.  

The story winds its way through "magic, body thievery, killer dogs, ESP wars, and lusty, genre-defying sex," reads the jacket notes.  "The Spoors are the ultimate dysfunctional family.  Wealthy, shamelessly extravagant, and impossibly attractive, they are also cursed.  The curse has been handed down from father to sone for seven hundred years, ever since the crusades, when a bizarre and mystifying event created a recurring pattern of madness and death."

Anyway...enough.  Please read the book.  Send me your comments.  I'll be sure that the author receives them, and of possible, will relay his replies.

Thanks,

Art Cohen
cohenart@A1.mec.mass.edu

MCET
One Kendall Square
Building 1500
Cambridge, MA 02139
Newsgroups: alt.prose,alt.pulp,alt.postmodern,alt.suicide.holiday
From: sks1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Sujay Shaunak)
Subject: precursor to DELPHI : 6
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:42:29 GMT




	Hello everyone, this is a preliminary message to 
DELPHI : chapter 6  "Tangled Webs". This is a continuation of a 
crossover story with the VIGILANTE series. As such, Lary Nagy,
author of the VIGILANTE series needs to be given A LOT of credit
for his work with this story. (Note : For those of you who haven't
read the Vigilante series, I recommend it).
	Since it is a crossover, characterization / continuity is a 
problem. I would appreciate any "errors" to be pointed out. I don't
think that there are any, but it's easy for me to miss these things ...
	Keep letting me know how I'm doing... and thanks for all the 
constructive comments / general email.

	Sujay Shaunak
	sks1@ra.msstate.edu

P.s. Hope you Enjoy the story.
--

'Sooge'
sks1@ra.msstate.edu
From: ewm@mdavcr.mda.ca (Eric W. Mitchell)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: none
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:06:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.135134.1@cc.uvcc.edu> brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>In article <3904@map.mdavcr.mda.ca>, ewm@mdavcr.mda.ca (Eric W. Mitchell) writes:
>> 
>> Please, please, please discontinue this thread.  It does not belong
>> here.
>	If this hurts your feelings, then take it as a flame, otherwise it's
>just an opinion...
>	I think it has every right to be here.  It won't (unless we all lose
>our minds) last more than a month or two, and it's VERY creative.  Besides,
>it's one of the funniest things I've seen all week.
>


Apparently it is a matter of opinion whether a thread such as this 
falls within the mandate of alt.startrek.creative.  I tend to believe
it does not.  I do not believe that adding a single line to a story is
very creative.

The big problem is with threads in general, however, due to the huge
amount of network bandwidth that they consume.  Large numbers of people
participate because it is perceived to be an "open" story, and noone
has to be particularly skilled to enter it.

This would not be as great a problem if each contributor only posted
his or her single line (and perhaps one or two previous lines for
context).  Unfortunately, network latency leads to a confusion of
sub-threads, so people feel they require all previous lines in their
story.  They thus tend to quote the entire thread to date, leading to
progressively greater network usage.

Many companies (including mine) eliminate access to non-work related
newsgroups as USENET bandwidth grows, since the spool files consume
considerable disk space and downloading eats a lot of modem time.  As
you can imagine, retaining alt.startrek.creative is not a high
priority.  One of the reasons it is retained on many sites is because
it has relatively low bandwidth, and a reasonably high signal to noise
ratio (and the fact that us trekkies would transport the SA into a
bulkhead if he touched it).

And no, I don't think this one thread will cause the collapse of 
civilization.  But there are many newsgroups, and many threads,
and many new users (particularly at the start of the university
year) who may not realize that there ARE consequences.

Eric

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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: syl5487@u.cc.utah.edu (SCOTT LEE/HISTORY)
Subject: Re: Help needed with storyline idea
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 22:25:47 GMT

Does Star Fleet have a version of the space marines?   With the tech in
ST, I think you could build a infantry force on the scale of Heilein's
_Starship_Troopers_.  I think the Aliens from the movie are kind of like
the "bugs" in _Starship_Troopers_, too. (flame away :-) )

think about some of the things the Enterprise can pull:
	come into a system at warp
	transport thousands of troops with all their equipment anywhere on
the surface.
	unload a couple of modified shuttles for extra fire power
	then warp out to engage any hostile vessels.

Did you want the story in deep space or enclude a planet?

*******************************************
scott.lee@m.cc.utah.edu 
*******************************************
From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Monthly post on Third Fleet
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:00:24 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: pjb4288@ultb

Star Ships of the Third Fleet is a great way to meet people and to be involved
with the details and imagination that we all know of that is included in Star
Trek.

Third Fleet is a correspondence club that is based in Santee, California and is
under the direction of Fleet Admiral Kenneth Brannon.  Everyone from around the
country who joins is placed on a ship and assumes a position and is given a
rank.  Story lines are begun by ship captains and those story ideas are
continued independently by the crew members.  On the 15th of each month, the
crew is required to submit some form of a written report to their Captain. 
Storylines can be developed over a period of two-four months and are eventually
compiled and published for the contributors to read.

Besides the ship writing work, you can also take classes at Third Fleet
Academy.  Third Fleet Academy is based in Rio Rancho, New Mexico.  By the U.S.
mail you can take classes at either B.S., M.S. or Doctorate levels and earn
degrees in fields such as Starship Operations, Engineering, Medical, and even
Security.  

I highly reccomend Third Fleet for those of you who enjoy writing Star Trek
type of missions and enjoy sharing them with others.  There are dues which are
required yearly but they are quite reasonable.  Remember please, that this is
not run by e-mail in any way, but by the U.S. Postal Service.

If you're interested in StarShips of the Third Fleet, please write me email at
pjb4288@ritvax.isc.rit.edu and I'll be happy to forward you the needed
addresses to join or get more detailed information.

Lieutenant Commander Peter J. Boulay
Chief of Security/Personal Weapons Trainer
USS Galileo Galilei (NCC-8888)
Third Fleet
-- 
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Email should be sent only to PJB4288@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Disclaimer: You don't like what I'm writing? Oh well.
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