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In rec.aquaria, cliff@watson.ibm.com writes:

    I would like to purchase a tank which is 4 feet long, and the other
    dimensions are less constrained.  I'd like it to be greater than 100 gallons.  
    Would anyone know the largest standard
    sized tank which is 4 feet long?  Is the cost of purchasing this from
    a catalog significantly different from purchasing this from a local
    fish store?

A 90 gallon tank is 48" by 18" by 24" deep.  A 110 gallon tank is 48" by
18" by 30" deep.  If you plan to do much maintenance, the 90 is about 
the deepest you can have with convenient access.  It is very difficult 
to reach the bottom of a 110 tank.  BTW, the 90 and 110 gallon tank
won't hold any more fish than the 70 gallon, since the surface area is
the same.  There may be some standard sizes that are 48" by 24" wide, but
I haven't seen any.  If you are planning to have plants, the extra width
is very nice. 

The purchase cost may be cheaper in a catalog but the shipping for a large
glass tank will kill you!  I have found that you can usually bargain the 
price of a tank in all but the most butt-headed of fish stores.  They 
figure they will make the money on the other stuff.  

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George
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Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Fancy Guppies
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:09:15 GMT
Reply-To: colliton@las031.enet.dec.com (COLLITON)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



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In rec.aquaria, zlyj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Tom Neils) writes:

    My 2 oscars have outgrown my 20g tank, so I am in the process of
         .
         .
         .
    for a freshwater cichlid tank?  After I landscape and and populate the
    tank with plants and cycle it for a month or so I want to move my
    oscars, pleco and maybe a couple other fish to it.

Gee, why bother landscaping?  Once you put the oscars in, they will 
change the lanscaping to suit their fancy.  Just toss in the fish and
plants and watch them go to work :-).

------
George
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From: cliff@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Bubble-Disks
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:54:31 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Does anyone have experience with Bubble-Disks? Supposedly they come
in three sizes, are round, and make the airstream bubbles look like
a volcano of bubbles.
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From: carmody@rtsg.mot.com (Ronald P. Carmody)
Subject: Lighting questions
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:26:58 GMT

I know this question has been ask before, but I don't
remember the answer.

How do I rewire an "old" flourescent hood (1 24" 20 watt tube)
to work with a standard timer.

Thanks in advance!

Ron Carmody - First time poster
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From: lkern@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Leesa J Kern)
Subject: Okay, I'm really serious now!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:24:15 GMT

About two years ago I got a 10 gal. tank from my boyfriend for my birthday.  
Now, after buying 3 books, a subscription to AFM, and some trial-by-error 
learning later, I've gotten rid of the boyfriend and become completely devoted
to aquarium fish keeping.  (Got my priorities straight! :)

Anyway, I've decided to chuck the bright red gravel and plastic plants for the 
real thing ... natural brownish gravel and some real plants.  I realize 10 gal.
is not good for plants, but any larger tank would not be good for my checking 
account, so ....

What kind of plants would work in a small freshwater tank?  I know this 
question has been asked alot recently, but I either miss responses, or I see 
him after seeing what kind of set up the original poster had to see if it's 
similar.  So sorry for the repeat.

Anyway, as I said it's a cheapy 10 gal. (cheap boyfriend), which has a heater, 
air pump, and Aqua Clear Mini filter.  Current fish population is one neon 
tetra,  3 White Cloud Mountain minnows, and a sucking loach (which does a less 
than admirable job on the algae).  What I'd like eventually is 6 Neons and 6 
WCM Minnows,and another sucking loach to keep the current one company.

Thanks in advance!!

Leesa

[P.S. to any of you central Ohio fish-netters:  I'm planning on going to 
Byerly's for this stuff, so any suggestions on who to talk to?]

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expressed here!
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From: faith@wam.umd.edu (Jerome V. Smith)
Subject: Re: Fish people
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:38:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.165433.33008@watson.ibm.com> cliff@watson.ibm.com (C.Pickover;083801) writes:
>Has anyone found a correlation with those people interested in 
>fish tanks and other personal attributes?  Are there more men interested
>in having an aquarium then women?  Is there a correlation with
>occupation or age?  Is the reason most people give for wanting
>an aquarium because they are interested in the mystery of the sea,
>mother of all life on earth?  Or are they more interested in
>aesthetics and the beauty of the fish?

I think fish people have very distinctive qualities about them. they are 

Curious - They want to watch and observe the behavior of their fishes

Creative - We act as the fishes interior decorator, trying to suit their needs
           as well as making it look pleasing to our eyes.

Intelligent - We're smart enough to know how to sustain life or try to make
              conditions suitable for the fishes needs.

Peaceful - we are at peace with ourselves and the universe.  
           we have an appreciation
           for life and things that live in it (was that too deep?)

Possessive - Don't touch my f_____g tank,  if you do i'll kill you.
             That means feeding pointing and plucking 

Lover of beauty - I bet my tank looks better than all of yours .... smile

How many of you have wished you where small enough to fit in your tank and 
swim around with the other fish? (ok, call me weird)

You also didn't ask about the correlation of people who have fish and use
the computer frequently.  things that make you go Hmmmmmmmmmmm.


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From: stu@mbsdev24.shearson.com ( Stuart Bernstein )
Subject: Prefilters for Canister Filters
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:46:22 GMT


  I am using a Cannister filter for my 55 gallon Community Tank.
  Will a prefilter help the filter media last longer on the Canister ?
  Is it worth buying ?  Is there anyone on the Net with a Canister and
  prefilter ?
From: oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Coral safe for Freshwater tanks?
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:23:29 GMT
Reply-To: oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft
X-Disclaimer: I speak for myself only unless explicitly indicated otherwise

dyson@sunfish.Physics.UIowa.EDU writes:
>IF IT IS IN THE OCEAN IT IS NOT TO BE TOUCHED.  

This is very much the same rules that apply to the National Parks and
Nature Preserves: you are not supposed to take anything out or bring in
(and leave) anything.  Every twig, live or dead, has its part to play
in the ecology.
-- 
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and 
child." -- Dan Quayle
 
Oleg Kiselev                                             oleg@veritas.com
From: booth@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (George Booth)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:47:09 GMT
Subject: Re: Water pump
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
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In rec.aquaria, santosa@gwan.esd.sgi.com (Gunawan Ali-Santosa) writes:

    Questions:

    1. Anybody else have this problem ? What happen if
       the pumps fail to restart, are they going to heat up
       really fast, I don't want to burn down my house
       when this happens and I am not home.

Yes, the RS-500 we had also failed to restart about 1/2 of the time. 
The house didn't burn down.

    2. What about other submersible brands, such as Hagen ?
       Similar experience ?

Yes, the Hagen 802 we had also failed to restart about 1/3 of the time. 

    3. Do you know which brand that always restart ?

No. Someone on the net has the Eheim 1250 hobby pump and likes it.

    4. I am setting up another tank, and planning to use Hagen 802
       power head for my w/d sump pump, I know some of you already
       did this, any comments ? I am not worried about
       the slow turn over rate, I am more worried more about
       overworking the power head since it is not
       really intended to be a sump pump.

It worked OK once it got started. 

------
George
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From: frazier@maxwell (Greg Frazier)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Coral safe for Freshwater tanks?
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:16:35 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

nick@socrates.umd.edu (Nick Lemberos) writes:
: subject says it all.  found some nice coral while down in the florida
: keys (some I bought, others I found in the water).  

Coral is not good for freshwater tanks.  It will cause
your water to harden.  Also, it is considered in poor taste
to purchase coral, and only an asshole removes it from the
ocean.  Yes, that was a flame.

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Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier
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From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: Air Pump				
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:55:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.135219.29969@watson.ibm.com>, cliff@watson.ibm.com writes:
|> I've had an small air pump for a year, and now its getting quite buzzy.	
|> Do people usually try to have them repaired, or do they chuck them
|> out and buy a new one?
|> 
|> Is there much difference between air pumps?  What's recommened for both
|> small and heavy-duty pumps?  THanks



	Well,


	Yes there are differences between air pumps. How are you using yours?

If you are running a UGF with it, you'll want as much pressure as possible to 
move the most water. If you are using it w/a Protien Skimmmer, you'll want one
with a rheostat that allows you to vary the amount of airflow.

	The biggest killer of airpumps is called Backpressure. It occurrs
when the pump works too hard to force air through the stone (or whatever is on 
the other end), and the pressure backs up into the diaphragm.  i.e. there is 
too much resistance on the other end of the airline. (Gang valves cause a lot
of this.) 

	When a pump is exposed to a lot of back pressure, the diaphragm tends
to wear out, and air flow decreases. One can replace the diaphragm w/ the 
proper replacement part. These are generally available from your local 
aquarium shop. 

	What kind of pump is it and how is it being used? 


-- 

________________________________________________________________________________
"If you got to it and didn't do it, may you never get to it, and do it again"


Frank V. Ricciardi

fvr@bae.bellcore.com

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From: stu@mbsdev24.shearson.com ( Stuart Bernstein )
Subject: Re: How Much Heater Voltage ?
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:46:53 GMT

> What would be the necessary amount of total heat voltage
>   required for a 55 gallon tank ?  I plan on buying two
>   heaters in case one fails at some time.

  Sorry, I meant watts !!  I don't want to electricute the fish !!
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From: cliff@watson.ibm.com (cliff)
Subject: Mixing Egg Layers and Live Bearers
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:49:10 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: A

Is there any problem with mixing egg layers and live bearers in
freshwater tropical fish tanks?  Do the fish do just fine	
together?
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From: jle@cfm.brown.edu (Jon Elion)
Subject: Re: Cannister Filters
Organization: Brown University / Cardiac Image Processing Lab
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:57:28 GMT

cliff@watson.ibm.com (cliff) writes:

>I understand that its hard to change the media (in a Fluval 403) because the
>cut-off valves supplied tend to break with extended use...

I use silicon O-ring grease on my Fluval 403 (available at your nearest
SCUBA dive shop).  It is non-toxic, and helps seat the big O-ring on the
tank as well as helping cut-off values operate more smoothly.  I could not
slip the hoses off the cut-off valves at all before adding the grease.
Works well, and I haven't busted on yet 8-).

>Also (a) fish store owner says he doesn't bother with the spray bar, since
>its unsightly.  He simply has the return water jet out of a tube hanging in
>the tank...

I have a heavily planted tank with CO2 injection.  A spray bar at the top
was not a feature I needed.  INSTEAD, I installed the spray bar IN THE WATER.
The 403 comes with a spray bar in 2 pieces, intending that they are
connected together and position parallele to the surface.  Instead,
I connect them with a 45-degree connector.  One runs vertically down into
the tank, the second runs parallele to the bottom.  They are adjusted to
optimize the water circulation in the tank.  This has worked very well.
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From: awhj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Tom Fredericks)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Help with making stand for 2 55g tanks
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:20:34 EDT
Distribution: na,rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <LEE.92Aug17095253@coredump.npac.syr.edu>,
lee@coredump.npac.syr.edu (Lee C Brink) writes: 
> 
>   So if I used 2x6 I could do away with the front middle post w/o worry
> of collapsing?
> 
>    Lee

  I built a stand similar in design to the one described by (?) Bailey in a
previous post.  I have a 110 gal on the top and a 55 on the bottom (currently
removed but was there for a year.)  I used 2x6 cross pieces and it is 
sufficient to hold the 110 gal (48"x18"x30").  One of my 2x6's had a bit of 
a sweep in it, dipping about 3/16" in the middle.  I compensated for the gap 
with wooden shims taken from pieces of a wooden shingle.  2x6's on end can
hold a lot of weight, I don't think they'd bat an eyelash at 55 gals.  Be
picky when you are buying them.  I'd go to a good lumber store and then 
insist on looking through the pile yourself and selecting the actual pieces
so you can avoid knots, sweep, discoloration, and other defects.  The bargain
type of lumber stores often carry cull (or at least lower grade) lumber that
has been rejected by someone else.  You'll pay a little more doing it this
way but I think it's peanuts in the grand scheme.  Good luck.

    - Tom Fredericks



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From: ahughes@arch386.hyperdesk.com (Arch Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: RUGF Power head Recommendations?
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:53:40 GMT
Reply-To: arch@hyperdesk.com
Organization: HyperDesk Corporation

I have a 35 gallon hex with a crushed coral bed-based UGF.  I use a
Aquaclear 201 power head on one lift tube and am now using an
air driven lift tube as well.

Because I'm sick of my high nitrate levels, I'm thinking of converting
to a RUGF system.  My hope is that the Aquaclear 200 power filter will
end up sucking in most/more of the detrius and I'll be able to remove
it with filter (floss) changes.

What should I use for power head(s) on the drop (formerly lift) tubes?
Should the input side of the powerheads be filtered?

The local pet shop owner recommends Aquaclear 401's with no
intake filter.  He recommends running them in reverse mode for a
couple of days of the week and forward mode for the rest of the week.

Any comments on or experience with the alternating flow idea?

I have another collector of detrious in my tank.  That is, I have 2
coral skeletons that look much like Reeforms Flower Corals (sorry, I
have no idea what the name of the white skeletons are).  When I do a
water change I end up dumping out lots of waste material that has
collected in the branches.  Is this a common problem?  Any suggestions
on how to prevent the accumulation in these two decorative pieces?

Thanks

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Subject: Minneapolis (F)
From: <UD005565@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 21 Aug 1992 07:55:09 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

I'm taking my wife and children to see the Twins Monday. If anyone knows
a nice pet store with quality fish, that is easy to get to, let me know.
I'm especially looking for some nice, young, vieltail, angelfish.
                                  Bill Martin
                                  Grand Forks. ND
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From: murf@spike.comet.ucar.edu (John Murphy)
Subject: Wet Dry + UG reverse flow debate
Organization: COMET/Univ. Corporation for Atmospheric Research, Boulder  CO
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:02:43 GMT

For the last 2 weeks I have been going from store to store seeking advice
for a reef tank that I would like to set up.  I am planning on buying a
75G setup, w/ wet dry filtration.   One of the stores I have been to
"highly reccommends" taking the return from the wet/dry and running   
it reverseflow up through an undergravel filter.  Another store that
I mentioned this idea to said that it was the worst thing you could
do.  He said that anerobic bacteria would build up and gradually deplete
the oxygen supply in the water.  He also gave several other chemical   
reasons for this being a bad idea (he talked like a biologist) that I 
didn't understand.  The advocate of the setup said how is bacteria going to  
form when the water is moving up not down and it has already been through the
wet dry filtration.   Both these guys have 15+ years experience with
marine setup, but I have know idea which is correct.   Does anybody
out there have any experience with this????? which is best?  wet/dry
nothing on the bootom?  wet dry + u/g and coral? wet/dry only and sand?
what do I do?????????????????????????


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UCAR/COMET			(303) 497-8494
PO Box 3000
Boulder CO 80307-3000
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From: marat@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: glass vs plexiglass
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:52:05 GMT


Measured light transmission of standard soda-lime glass (typical
window/aquarium glass) and poly(methylmethacrylate) acrylic -
"Plexiglass" brand.

Wavelength (nm)                % transmission
                        Glass                  acrylic

600                     90                      90
500                     92                      90
400                     93                      89
375                     90                      69
350                     78                       9
325                     20                       0
300                      0                       0

The thickness of the glass was 3 mm (glass thickness is metric in Canada)
The thickness of the acrylic was 1/8 " (ca 3 mm).

It seems that glass has better UV transmission than at least this brand
of acrylic.

Borosilicate glass (pyrex) is transparent well out into the UV (at least
to 300 nm) but I don't know if it is available in sheets at a reasonable
price.

Different types or brands of "acrylic" may be different.
If in doubt, the Chemistry Dept at  any University can put a piece
in a UV/VIS spectrophotometer and measure the transmission in about
1 min.

Kirk Marat
Dept of Chemistry
University of Manitoba
CANADA.
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From: ig30@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Aquarium Backings
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:01:37 GMT

I usually paint the back and sides of my aquariums with matt black spray
paint(on the outer surface). To make sure not to get any paint on the inner
surfaces turn the aquarium upside down before painting ( obviously this will
have to be done prior to setting up the tank). A can costs about $3US, and can
paint several aquariums. It also dries to the touch within 15 minutes or so.

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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Subject: Re: [M] Wandering Anemone
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:49:31 GMT

In article <Bss7sy.M1s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Igor Livshits <igorl@uiuc.edu> writes:
>I had a similar problem with a Maroon Clown Anemone.  When I first bought
>it, it quickly found the most remote corner and hid.  I went to fetch,
>got it put in a different well-lit easily-observable spot (had my forearm
>digested in the process), and found the anemony in the dark corner, only
>visible from below the next morning.  I was quite ticked at it, and left
>as is.  It stayed there for three weeks, annoying me to no end.
>

Ah. Obviously a close relative of my flame scallop. I bought him
($6.00) stuck him in the front of my tank and watched him for about an
hour. He adjusted well, moved around the tank in the coolest way and
hopped over a couple of rocks, wedged himself in the very back corner
of the tank and cannot be seen at all. I forget I even have him. The
only way to even get a glimpse of him is to remove the lights and
cover and lean way over the tank and squint. Squint because he is
wedged right up against a rock that is the same color as his shell.
His colorful red things are pointed down at the gravel. Oh well. Maybe
I'll get another one.

Tony Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
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From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: more Fish People
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:16:34 GMT

  This thread has me curious as to what other hobbies other fishy
folks might have. Could be this might offer some insight as to
what sort of people we are. Myself, my other hobby (and a serious
one at that), is rock climbing. Live rock...NOT!

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