HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms

I installed Windows 3.1 last night.  During installation I got two
warning message screens:

 The following file conflicts with the version already on your system
     File: OLESVR.DLL
 Description: (unknown)
 The new version of the file is a different file type from the
 currently installed verison.

I got the same message later for the file OLECLI.DLL.

The options were to either keep the old file or overwrite it.  I chose
to overwrite the file in both cases.  Everything works so far.

Does anyone know what these files are or why I got the warning messages?


Regards,

Lee Bollard              
HP Spokane Division
bollard@hpspkla.spk.hp.com
From: bregel@cs.washington.edu (Aaron Bregel)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win 3.1 PC speaker MM driver?
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:06:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr8.024220.19380@crpmks.uucp> marcs@crpmks.uucp (Marc Snyder) writes:
>In article <198@bsc835bsc.edu> ehunt@bsc835bsc.edu (Eric Hunt) writes:
>>Does anyone know if Microsoft ever plans to, or has released previously in
>>the beta drops, a driver to allow .WAV files to be played through the regular
>>PC speaker?
>
>I dialed into the Microsoft BBS (the number listed on the back of that
>little pamphlet thing that came with Windows 3.1 -- with the tech support
>numbers on it) looking for something else, and found something called
>PCSPEAK.EXE (or something similar).  I downloaded it, installed it, and

It's called SPEAK.EXE.

>it lets you control how the speaker is toggled with interrupts.  Ah well,
>I said, I shut down Windows, and when I restarted it, I got the "Tada"
>music from my speaker.  Doesn't sound bad, but I'm still ordering my
>SoundBlaster Pro {8^).

You are limited to playing .WAV files through the Sound Recorder however but
it's better than no sound at all in my opinion.

Aaron Bregel

>
>-- 
>Marc Snyder                     UUCP: ...philabs!crpmks!marcs
>System Administrator                  
>Ciba-Geigy Corporation
>Hawthorne, New York          Work: 914.785.2284      Play: 914.347.6440
Xref: sparky comp.windows.ms:12731 comp.os.os2.misc:11871
From: bruce@ais.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why go to 3.1 if 2.0 works
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:18:17 GMT
Organization: Applied Information Systems, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <1992Apr13.010003.17885@actrix.gen.nz>, Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
> In article <lrvjgcg.rcain@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>> After spending half the evening trying to get OS/2 to know about the
>> modem card that's been on com3 of one of my machines for a lonnnng time
>> talking to you all, I know full well why OS/2 ain't goin nowhere.  It's
>> great but it sucks if you don't have a guru or the internet.  I'm doin'
>> this from DOS 'cause I have to.  It is a corporate operating system.
> 
> By the same argument, Windows won't go anywhere either. It defaults to 2e8 on
> Com3 and 2e0 on Com4. I don't know about the rest of the world, but my machine
> thinks otherwise. So Com3 and Com4 wouldn't work until I changed the sys.ini
> file.........

FWIW Windows 3.1 does have a dialog box that allows you to change the COM
port settings for COM3 and COM4 without the user having to know how to use
a text editor to modify the system.ini file.

The biggest problem with configuration issues like this is that the user
has to know that this is even an issue in the first place.  Once the user
knows to look for things like that then even MS-DOS comm apps can usually
be configured without too much trouble.  And the problem with just saying
to put such things into a document or a readme file is that most users
don't read such things if they can help it - they just want to drop the
app in and have it work.

There's really no substitute for knowing a little about your hardware and
software ... but a lot of people are too lazy ...

Bruce C. Wright
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli)
Subject: CICA's Status (was Re: CICA no longer available???)
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 22:02:50 GMT

In <10207@inews.intel.com> tom@ismdqa.intel.com (Tom Soukup ~) writes:

> I have been unsuccessful at using the anonymous ftp login at cica
> for a while now.  Has the site been shut down or are the number of
> anonymous logins severely limited.  

We've replaced the crashed hard disk, but are in the process of
debugging some lingering problems and rearranging some resources.

Please be patient.  We hope to be available in a couple days.

-- 

michael regoli
regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu
regoli@iubacs.BITNET
From: gordonh@milton.u.washington.edu (Gordon Hayes)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: stacker
Summary: lost stacker files
Keywords: stacker
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:54:00 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

I have a question.  I was using stacker.  I lost access to my
drive that was stacked.  I have the file (containing 61meg.s)
but can't access it.  I also can't boot off my hard drive now.
Anyway, is there anyway to retreive my disk out of the Stacker
file?  (stackvol.000, I believe).  Or do I just have to 
reformat my harddrive all over again.  If so, I'm not
using stacker again.  Any suggestions?  I don't have a current
backup.  So, I'm out somethings I had been working on, is
there ANYWAY to access this compressed file that is my stacked
drive?  thanks
Gordon
From: t06@clark.edu (Torry Schreiner)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Where is OS/2?
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:35:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Apr9.193528.1092
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Apr9.124654.1285@wkuvx1.bitnet> futrena@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>Ok.  I will ask this question ONE more time.  Who do I call to get a copy of
>OS/2 2.0?  Or do I contact an "Authorized IBM Dealer"?
>
>
>Nathan

1-800-3IBMOS2
-- 
The key to life is one thing.  It's up to you to figure out what it is.
                                    - Kurly in City Slickers 
     Torry V. Schreiner                                       t06@clark.edu
From: deb@loni.ucla.edu (Debjoti Sensharma)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Creative Labs... The infinite busy signal...
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:21:39 GMT
Organization: UCLA Laboratory of Neuroimaging

I've been trying to find the number for Creative Lab's BBS and could someone
kindly email me it since I cannot even get someone on the phone at either
of their numbers: (408) 428-6600 or (408) 428-6622.

What would be really great is if any one has the SoundBlaster MCA drivers for
Win 3.1 which I need to get for my SB to work with windows.

Debjoti
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: jgarland@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: When DR scams, it's ok?  Was Re: Win3.1/DR DOS 6.0/SuperS...
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:25:00 GMT

In article <11320@mindlink.bc.ca>, Robert_Salesas@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Salesas) writes:
>> David E. Watson writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I found out that the version of SuperStor that comes with DR-DOS was crippled
>> to only work with DR-DOS.  The SuperStor driver will not recongnize another
>> operating system.  
etc....
> 
> 
> Interesting.  I hope MS bashers take note.  While all the claims that MS
> "cheats" by placing code to check for OS/2 or DR-DOS, have been unfounded, DR
> plainly admits that it limits components of it's DOS to only work with itself.
> How many people are going to condem DR for doing that?  How many would if it
> was MS ...


Question:  Was it DRI or Addstor that insisted on these terms (or 
both)?  I sure don't know.  My guess is Addstor may have had something 
to say about how their technology was licensed (just as Stac probably will 
if/when they licence theirs to MS as some rumors say they're going to.

PS.  Does anyone have the 800 tech support number for drdos 6.  I 
cannot find it in my manuals anywhere.

John Garland
jgarland@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Need help with System Configuration
From: dkohl@mozart.cs.byu.edu (Doug Kohlert)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:13:55 GMT
Reply-To: dkohl@mozart.cs.byu.edu (Doug Kohlert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Keywords: Lotus, Word, Windows Configuration

My wife works for a small engineering firm where nearly everyone is
computer illiterate.  Anyway, they have three machines that they would
like setup to behave the same so as to not confuse anyone.  What they
have is two Epson 386sx's with 4Meg Ram and a CompuAd 486 also with 4Meg
Ram.  They need to be able to run Lotus 2.3 for DOS, Word 5.5 for DOS,
and Lotus for windows.  The problem is that they have fairly large
spreadsheets and Word documents that required the use of expanded
memory.  Currently they are running lotus for DOS from DOS, and
everything else from Windows 3.0.  The problem is that Lotus for windows
locks up a lot, I have a feeling it is because they are using EMM386 to
get expanded memory for lotus for Dos, I heard somewhere that the more
memory lotus for windows has the less likely it is to crash.

Anyway, the question is what would be the best configuration to be able
to run all of the applications (they do not need to be running at the
same time, one at a time is fine).  What should they have in their
config.sys files? Should they bag EMM386 and run everything from inside
of windows?  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Doug
dkohl@mozart.cs.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Subject: Why I hate [insert here] Re: Pause before you consider OS/2 
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:10:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.210418.26317@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:
>Correction of more OS/2 misinformation, etc., etc.:
>
>If you want to fully utilize your 386 or 486 *NOW*, not in a year or so,
>If you waste time waiting for your apps to spell check, search, repaginate,
>   or anything else that could be multi-threaded,
>If you don't mind learning a very intuitive shell that many people are
>   claiming is *better* than the Mac (I agree btw),

>And if you don't mind an occasional crash forcing a reboot (that is,
>   more occasional than under OS/2 2.0),

	Can we please stop this patronizing bullshit please...?  A hell of a 
lot of people here are starting to sound like MacIntosh users...

	Both OSs have their strong points, both have a lot of problems.

	Please don't make this another comp.sys.amiga.advocacy where they
sling bullshit and competely unfounded facts around like the french did to
midgets until they passed laws banning it (which pissed a lot of midgets making
big cash off...)

	Nobody minds a good debate/argument, but this is just stupid.

-- 
  storm@cs.mcgill.ca           McGill University         C program run.  Run  
  Marc Wandschneider           Montreal, CANADA          Program run! PLEASE!
Ever wonder how Worf got to be Security Officer on the Enterprise when the 
Capt gets kidnapped from the bridge every two episodes and Troy Beats him up?
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From: engelke@Armstrong.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Tastes gross/more fattening (repost (last attempt only got ~1 site))
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:24:11 GMT
Organization: Info Tech, Inc., Gainesville, FL

gnash@ee.uts.edu.au (Greg Nash) writes:
>Consider this...
>
>  OS/2 -- the windows development platform!!

Actually, my development team has been developing all our PC applications
(MS-DOS, MS Windows and OS/2 1.3) under OS/2 1.x for two years now.  At first,
for Windows we would edit and compile on an OS/2 PC, then run the app on
a Windows one (on a network), but for the last year, since Microsoft released
its WLO Windows Libraries for OS/2, we've done all development under OS/2 1.3, 
then final testing for Windows apps under real Windows.  Of course, with 
OS/2 2.0 we won't even need to use WLO.

OS/2 (even 1.x) is a _superb_ development platform.  Multiple sessions, true
multi-tasking, real pipes, virtual memory and great tools (before MS dropped
OS/2 support from its C compiler) all make it a joy to work in.  This is
most significant for larger apps, like the 40,000 line Windows app and
200,000 line OS/2 app we've done recently.

Developing Windows apps under Windows was a world-class pain.  There was
never enough memory available in the DOS boxes for full makes, so we had
to keep exiting and re-entering Windows.  Windows lack of inter-application
memory protection (there is some, but too much is still shared) meant
that apps under development, which of course still had bugs, kept
corrupting the operating system (or operating environment, if you prefer)
so we had to keep restarting Windows or even re-boot DOS.  CodeView didn't
work nearly as well under Windows as under OS/2.

All the above comments apply to Windows 2.x and 3.0, as I have had no
experience yet with 3.1.

Charles Engelke
Manager, System Development
From: kernst@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: if you read 348^that one
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:57:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: mac.1992Apr13.115712.2429
Organization: Macalester College

thank you to some for calling it to my attention,
I'm sorry for putting a question in a news group.

thank you to others for answers......

Now since I've got your attention, I'm looking at sound cards and would like
your advise on the best of whats out there.  I'm interested in music options,
such as keyboard and CD player hook ups.

thank you again,
karen
KERNST@MACALSTR.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
From: rbd@eo.soest.hawaii.edu (Roger Davis)
Subject: Re: PC Posts
Organization: School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:09:29 GMT

> Since I can't do it I probably shouldn't even mention it, but...
> Would there be any possiblity that this newsgroup could be moderated?
> That way only one poor soul would have to endure the posts from PC users
> about MS Windows.
 
> Michael H. Lambert
> Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center

Over the last couple of weeks I've been sending personal e-mail to
each person making such a posting -- perhaps if another ten or twenty
people in this group did the same these morons would realize that flooding
our newsgroup with garbage is not worth getting their mailboxes flooded
with nasty messages. Posting polite requests to the various PC groups
seems to have no effect whatsoever.

Another possible solution might be changing the name of the newsgroup.
I know that comp.windows.news is a perfectly rational choice for a group
discussing NeWS, but there seem to be far too many novice users out there
who think comp.windows.news means 'any old news about Windows', which is
certainly understandable from their point of view. I'm not offering any
suggestions here myself, but maybe someone else would like to?
-- 
Roger Davis
University of Hawaii/SOEST
rbd@soest.hawaii.edu
From: smith@canon.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: if you read 348^that one
Keywords: clueless
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:09:48 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

kernst@mac.cc.macalstr.edu writes:
> thank you to some for calling it to my attention,
> I'm sorry for putting a question in a news group.

It's not a "news" group, it's a group for "NeWS".  The name has three parts:
The "comp" part refers to the fact that it concerns computers.
The "windows" part refers to the fact that it concerns window systems.  
The "news" part refers to the fact that it concerns Sun Microsystem's 
Network extensible Window System in particular.

Note that the group has nothing to do with Microsoft Windows, as 
that has its own newsgroup, namely "comp.windows.ms".  Presumably,
this has already been explained, but perhaps it wasn't made clear.

> Now since I've got your attention, I'm looking at sound cards and would like
> your advise on the best of whats out there.  I'm interested in music options,
> such as keyboard and CD player hook ups.

I suggest that you speak to your system administrator, explain
the situation, and ask him to follow you outside and repeatedly
bang your head on the pavement until it all makes sense.

---- Mark Smith ---- Canon Research Europe ---- smith@canon.co.uk ----
 with extreme prejudice
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: simple question.....
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:15:22 GMT
Followup-To: sun.open-windows
Organization: cic

kernst@mac.cc.macalstr.edu writes:

>I'm sure there is an easy answer to this question, I'm just too lazy to figure
>it out........
>You know when you first get into Windows, there are certian icons that appear
>automatically----How do you change what appears and make something new appear?

Edit .openwin-init, or use "Save Layout" from the root menu after you have
the programs you want.

BTW, this is not NeWS question. I have redirected followups to sun.open-windows.
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From: kernst@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: simple question.....
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:10:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: mac.1992Apr12.181003.2424
Organization: Macalester College

I'm sure there is an easy answer to this question, I'm just too lazy to figure
it out........
You know when you first get into Windows, there are certian icons that appear
automatically----How do you change what appears and make something new appear?

thanks you your wisdom,
karen
KERNST.MACALSTR.EDU
From: dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil (David P. Kemp)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: Selection non-standard in Jet
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:02:33 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <8671@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> km@mathcs.emory.edu writes:
>It sure was a big a disappointment to me that OW3 didn't bring any real
>cmdtool/shelltool enhancements. Given how much time one spends in a terminal
>emulator, this is a bad place to cut corners.


It sure was a big disappointment to me too, for other reasons.  Cmdtool
scrolling is just a pig.  To wit,
 * if you have lines longer than the width of the screen, and scroll
   backwards, the scrolling is jerky - the bigger the line, the bigger
   the jerk.
 * if the cmdtool is partially obscured by another window, it takes
   100% of a SPARCstation-2 CPU to scroll 2 or 3 lines per second!
 * if you make the window full height and then reduce it to normal
   size, the cursor is off the screen at the bottom.

I am certainly no fan of Motif, but their cmdtool seems to handle
scrolling much more smoothly than Xview.  From all the miscellaneous junk
we see (1 pixel borders around windows that don't get refreshed, pieces of
dirt left around by cursors, keyboard focus jumping around by itself when
other windows are closed, etc) it looks like Xview has just been 
hacked and hacked and hacked (like much of the software I write! :-).

I hope when Sunsoft finally gets  SVR4 released, they will assign some
people to go through xview with a fine toothed comb, rewrite the crufty
stuff from scratch, if necessary, and fix all these nitty little problems.


-- 
   Dave Kemp   dpkemp@afterlife.ncsc.mil              "Pave the Bay!"
   #include <std/disclaimer>
From: laukee@canon.co.uk (David Lau-Kee)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: Selection non-standard in Jet
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:17:57 GMT
Reply-To: laukee@canon.co.uk
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:

>The selection mechanism doesn't seem to work normally in Jet. For
>example:
[ ... ]
>Its too bad about this behavior. Jet seems to be the only terminal emulator
>around that simultaneously can do drop and drag, and handle scrolling.

Yeah.  There are a few other 'gotchas' with Jet.  Then again, it isn't
a supported tool.  Which, as you indicate, is a great shame since it is the
only terminal emulator I can bring myself to use (and this despite the fact
that it occasionally bombs, locks-up, goes crazy [try cat'ing an executable
to a jet term!], loses the cursor...).  Are you going to fix this Josh?

-------------
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17/20 Frederick Sanger Rd, Surrey Research Park, Guildford, Surrey, GU25YD, UK.
laukee@canon.co.uk, laukee@canon.uucp, ..!ukc!canon!laukee
Tel: +44 (0) 483 574325 Fax: +44 (0) 483 574360
From: laukee@canon.co.uk (David Lau-Kee)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: simple question.....
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:58:03 GMT
Reply-To: laukee@canon.co.uk
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

kernst@mac.cc.macalstr.edu writes:
>I'm sure there is an easy answer to this question, I'm just too lazy to figure
>it out........
>You know when you first get into Windows, there are certian icons that appear
>automatically----How do you change what appears and make something new appear?

There is a special group to post Windows "new user" questions like this.  It
is called "comp.windows.news.newusers.questions".  Many sites abbreviate this
to "news.newusers.questions".  I suggest you post your query there.

>thanks you your wisdom,
>karen

Hey, no problem.
David
From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: PC Posts
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:16:59 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

ml3q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael H. Lambert) writes:

>Since I can't do it I probably shouldn't even mention it, but... Would
>there be any possiblity that this newsgroup could be moderated?  That
>way only one poor soul would have to endure the posts from PC users
>about MS Windows.

Actually, moderating it should be trivial.  Just delete those *&#%
Windows messages (responding to the idiots is optional) and punch
the button to let the others through.  Even if there were 50 messages
a day, it could only take 5-10 minutes...

(No, I can't do it...I don't have a direct Internet connection to
my machine. Besides, I'm not much of a NeWS guru either...)

Robert

PS Like this has anything to do with NeWS either :-)

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From: ks@cs.tut.fi (Syst{ Kari)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: double click on ClassSetting
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:27:28 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland.


My users want the following facility:
  If an item in ClassSetting is double-clicked, the selected item
  value is conformed without any "OK" button.

How can I implement that with TNT 3.0 ?


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