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From: jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery)
Newsgroups: sci.edu,sci.physics,alt.amateur-comp
Subject: Re: Fate of the Energetic Teacher
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:51:27 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

bm665@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jay Robert Hauben) writes:

>      Not only in my case but in many others I have seen, the 
> energetic, resourceful and student oriented teacher is not 
> allowed to practice the art of teaching for long without road 
> blocks or worse put in his or her way.
>  
>      I suspect that this phenomena is wide spread. I wonder if 
> anyone has an understanding of it, whether there have been 
> successful fights against it and what the experience of other 
> teachers has been.

Burgeoning bureaucracies being taken over by rather vicious parasites
is a phenomenon on the rise across most of western civilization but
particularly here in the U.S.  The people at the bottom, teachers,
REAL engineers, etc., have no choice but to become independent.

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From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: sci.edu
Subject: Re: Year-round schooling
Date: 13 Oct 1992 10:55:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  Since we live in an area that gets quite warm in the summer,
and we even have some days off in the spring and fall due to the
heat (mid to high 90s F and nearly equal humidity) I would be
amazed if all year school occurred. The voters here in Central
Virginia are not likely to pass bond elections to retrofit the
older schools with AC. (They hardly pass them any way).
-- 
Ted....
From: jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: koine = new testament?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 00:41:34 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, ITD-RA
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In article <jester.719161105@crash.cts.com> jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb) writes:
>Thanks to all who explained koine to me!
>
>Any suggestions where I could find a Greek NT?  Are all of them in Koine?

American Bible Society (New York). The second question needs to be
refined. The NT was translated and reproduced often. There are
thousands of manuscripts of the Koine text, and thousands of 
manuscripts in other dialects and languages with varying quantities
of disagreement as to which precedes which, etc.

Jack Love


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From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: sci.classics,sci.lang
Subject: Re: Quackery? Re: Greek words of Semitic Origin
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:12:46 GMT
Distribution: sci,world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <1992Oct12.032658.23804@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
> In article <1992Oct11.103516.621@vms.huji.ac.il> backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
>
>>>>[someone writes:]
>>>>There are many thousands of words appearing in Mozeson's THE WORD: THE
>>>>DICTIONARY THAT REVEALS THE HEBREW SOURCE OF ENGLISH, ISBN 0-933503-44-X.
>>>>Shapolsky Publishers, 136 West 22nd Street, New York NY 10011
>
>>>[and then Michael A. Covington writes:]
>>> Yes, but since the non-Hebrew origin of English is very well established,
>>> does he conclusively refute it?  Or is this the work of a crank?
>>> (If he merely points out lots of similar words, all he is doing is
>>> finding coincidences.)
>>
>>Coincidences ?? THOUSANDS of them ??
>
>   It's been done.  The idea is to accept any similarity of sound,
>   rather than settling on any regular sound rules.  If you do that,
>   you can prove any language is "related" to any other.


Sorry to disappoint you Michael but he uses regular sound rules.



>
>>Mozeson is in comparative linguistics. The theory of monogenesis of languages
>>was recently reviewed in Scientific American and in The Sciences (of the NY
>>Academy of Sciences).
>
>   Yes, but monogenesis is not "Hebrew origin of English."  It's monogenesis
>   from a hypothetical ancestor that predates Proto-Semitic, Proto-Into-
>   European, Proto-Sino-Tibetan, etc.
>
>>Anyone with a good background in Hebrew who scans the list of
>>proto-Indo-European roots in the back of the American Heritage Dictionary can
>>easily come up with many Hebrew roots.
>
> Yes, but do you also come up with putative regular sound changes, or do
> you just come up with random similarities?  Sounds in languages don't
> change randomly.
>

Putative regular sound changes. Nothing random here. As I mentioned in a prior
posting, the German is sometimes even more striking in similarity.


> On basic comparative linguistics see any of the standard textbooks.
> The nature of (phonological) language change is very well understood and
> is not haphazard.
>
> I don't know what the "Hebrew origin of English" book claims, but I'd
> like to see it reviewed by an expert historical linguist.  (I have a
> fair bit of training in historical linguistics but will gladly defer
> to those with more knowledge than myself.)

How about reading the book a few times or might this induce some cognitive
dissonance ?  :-)





>
> I'm adding "sci.lang" to the newsgroups line in the hope that a historical
> linguist will respond.  I took many of the historical linguistics courses
> at Yale but it wasn't my specialty.
>
> --
> :- Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu
> :- Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0359
> :- The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
> :- Athens, Georgia 30602 U.S.A.          amateur radio N4TMI


Josh

Dr. Josh Backon
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Quackery?  Re: Greek words of Semitic Origin
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:06:54 GMT
Distribution: sci,world
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct8.130752.612@vms.huji.ac.il> backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
>
>There are many thousands of words appearing in Mozeson's THE WORD: THE
>DICTIONARY THAT REVEALS THE HEBREW SOURCE OF ENGLISH, ISBN 0-933503-44-X.
>Shapolsky Publishers, 136 West 22nd Street, New York NY 10011

Yes, but since the non-Hebrew origin of English is very well established,
does he conclusively refute it?  Or is this the work of a crank?
(If he merely points out lots of similar words, all he is doing is
finding coincidences.)



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:- Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0359
:- The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
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From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: koine = new testament?
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:23:38 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <jester.718912833@crash.cts.com>, jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb) writes:
> I'm a beginner at Greek and Latin, so this is a clueless question :)
> 
> Do I have these definitions correct?
> 
> 	septuagint	Greek Old Testament
I think so; if my memory serves it was a translation of the Hebrew OT.

> 	koine		Greek New Testament
Here I think you're wrong: to me koine means the Greek that the NT was written
in. (The Greek current in the 1st century Roman Empire.) Most Greek NTs call
themselves "E Kaine Diatheke" (Doing my best to transliterate)---the Greek for
The New Testament.
-- 

Stephen Wilcox             |   Remember what happened to the dinosaurs!
wilcox@maths.oxford.ac.uk  |    I did---and look what happened to me.
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.classics,sci.lang
Subject: Re: Quackery? Re: Greek words of Semitic Origin
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:39:40 GMT
Distribution: sci,world
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct12.231246.622@vms.huji.ac.il> backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.032658.23804@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:

>Sorry to disappoint you Michael but he uses regular sound rules.

Sounds interesting.

>Putative regular sound changes. Nothing random here. As I mentioned in a prior
>posting, the German is sometimes even more striking in similarity.
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But German has changed a lot since ancient times.  (Grimm's Law,
Verner's Law, High German Consonant Shift...)  So if an ancient language
resembles German, you'd have to postulate that the ancient language
separately underwent the same sound changes.

>> I don't know what the "Hebrew origin of English" book claims, but I'd
>> like to see it reviewed by an expert historical linguist....
>
>How about reading the book a few times or might this induce some cognitive
>dissonance ?  :-)

I don't *have* the book.  Our library doesn't have it.  And since I am not
qualified to evaluate historical linguistic data in detail, I still want
to see it reviewed by someone who is.

Surely you've advised lay people to take precisely this attitude in dealing
with medical fads?  The ability to convince a non-expert doesn't prove much.
I want to know what the experts think.
-- 
:- Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu 
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0359
:- The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
:- Athens, Georgia 30602 U.S.A.          amateur radio N4TMI
From: swf@teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: Quackery? Re: Greek words of Semitic Origin
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:16:08 GMT
Reply-To: swf@tdat.teradata.com (Stanley Friesen)
Distribution: sci,world
Organization: NCR Teradata Database Business Unit

In article <1992Oct11.103516.621@vms.huji.ac.il> backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:
|In article <1992Oct9.170654.27402@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
|
|Anyone with a good background in Hebrew who scans the list of
|proto-Indo-European roots in the back of the American Heritage Dictionary can
|easily come up with many Hebrew roots.

Hmm, sounds like supporting evidence for the Nostratic hypothesis!
[If the 'Hebrew' words were present in PIE, prior to the seperation of
the daughter languages, then prior relationship between the languages is
more parsimonious then borrowing. - it would only be Hebrew roots in
English/Germanic that do *not* corespond to PIE roots that would indicate
borrowing].

Besides - shear number of roots doesn,t change the nature of a language.
*Far* more than 50% of English vocabulary is derived from Latin, either
directly or indirectly (via Spanish and French).  This does *not* make
English a Romance language rather than a Germanic one.
-- 
sarima@teradata.com			(formerly tdatirv!sarima)
  or
Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
From: rickertj@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (John Rickert)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: Recommendations for Classical Studies
Keywords: help, i'm clueless (aren't we all?)
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:32:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct12.213239.14432
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department


   Crosby and Schaeffer is an excellent grammar for elementary Greek.
It does presume some knowledge of Latin, or at least the case system
and an acquaintance with verbal formations, but I would recommend it
very highly.  Chase and Philips is also pretty good, but it suffers
from not having an index, and the grammatical rules are sometimes stated
so concisely it is hard to learn what they mean.  (Though, of course,
if you already know the thing, they are well put... :-) )

   The University of Oklahoma is reprinting an edition of Xenophon's
Anabasis, I-IV.  I'd recommend that, too, since you expressed an interest
in him.  After you've gotten a ways, you might think about Plato's
"Euthyphro" or "Ion," in addition to the "Apology."

   Good luck.

John R.
rickertj@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.classics,sci.lang
Subject: Re: Quackery? Re: Greek words of Semitic Origin
Summary: Watch those attributions, folks!
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:00:12 GMT
Distribution: sci,world
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

Watch those attributions -- in one or two recent messages "Michael A.
Covington writes" has been prefixed to things I did *not* write.

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Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: wbralick@afit.af.mil (Will Bralick)
Subject: Computer-based religious materials
Organization: Self-similar
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:11:33 GMT


A seminarian friend without net access has asked me to try to find
where to get the Summa (in English or Latin) or the Vulgate or Douay
Bible (in Latin).  He prefers a Mac-readable format.  Any information 
would be appreciated.  

Regards,

-- 

Will Bralick					wbralick@afit.af.mil

Standard disclaimers apply.  Void where prohibitted by law.
From: monaghan@cac.washington.edu (Tracy Monaghan )
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: Recommendations for Classical Studies
Keywords: help, i'm clueless (aren't we all?)
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:50:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct14.235042.25523
Organization: UW Computing

In article <1992Oct12.213239.14432@news.vanderbilt.edu> rickertj@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (John Rickert) writes:
>
>  [other recommendation removed]
>
>   The University of Oklahoma is reprinting an edition of Xenophon's
>Anabasis, I-IV.  I'd recommend that, too, since you expressed an interest
>in him.  
>
Adding my two drachma's worth, we're currently using an edition of this
(sixth printing, 1987) in our second year Attic Prose class.

It's very well done, with excellent notes and extensive vocabulary.
Newsgroups: sci.classics,sci.lang
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Subject: Re: Quackery? Re: Greek words of Semitic Origin
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Distribution: sci,world
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:37:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.101217.19945@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.032658.23804@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:

			....................

>	It would be interesting to find the Hebrew equivalents of each
>and see how they stack up. I confess I know little about Hebrew, but
>comparing the numerals reveals _no_ resemblance to IE.  This suggests
>that the common ancestor was so far back in the past that its speakers
>had numerals up to only 2 or 3, which is common among "primitive"
>people with not much to keep a detailed count of.

Anyone with a modest knowledge of Hebrew will disagree with you here.
This does not mean to me that there is a common origin, as with independent
evolution of languages there are bound to have some coincidences.  Anyhow,
the Hebrew for six (shishi) and for seven (sh'vii) are sufficiently similar
to the IE terms that one cannot say there is no resemblance.  The final "i"
in both of these is the adjective ending and not part of the root.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
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From: carlton@scws8.harvard.edu (david carlton)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: Recommendations for Classical Studies
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:38:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: scws8.CARLTON.92Oct13163807
Organization: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam
In-reply-to: jester@crash.cts.com's message of 12 Oct 92 18:02:59 GMT

In article <jester.718912979@crash.cts.com>, jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb) writes:

> Looking through introductory Greek texts, the "Joint Association of
> Classical Teachers Greek Course: Reading Greek" looked intriguing.
> Is this the recommended text?  If not, what are its faults?  Is
> something else recommended instead?  Should I be using any
> additional texts?

I learned Greek from these, and I like them a lot.  My paradigms
aren't as solid as they should be, but that's as much my fault as the
books'.

david carlton
carlton@husc.harvard.edu

       Let me do my TRIBUTE to FISHNET STOCKINGS...
Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: aardvark@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov (Mike Martin)
Subject: Re: Computer-based religious materials
Followup-To: sci.classics
Organization: Nullus
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:40:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.021133.7286@afit.af.mil>, wbralick@afit.af.mil (Will
Bralick) wrote:
> 
> 
> A seminarian friend without net access has asked me to try to find
> where to get the Summa (in English or Latin) or the Vulgate or Douay
> Bible (in Latin).  He prefers a Mac-readable format.  Any information 
> would be appreciated.  

I have three sources;

#1: PHI Latin CD-ROM, collection of classical works through about 200 AD.
Also has the Vulgate, Septuagint, and Greek NT (plus other stuff). The CD
can be read by IBM or Mac. They'll give you the file format and you can
roll your own software or you can by a commercial program thru a third
party. They can be reached at.

Packard Humanities Institute
300 Second Street, Suite 201
Los Altos CA, 94022
(415)-948-0150
Bitnet: xb.m07@stanford


#2: Linguist's Software puts out an MS-Word (MAC) version of the Vulgate.
They can be reached at;

        Linguist's Software
        P. O. Box 580
        Edmonds WA 98020-0580
        1-(206)-775-1130

This is the address I have for them from about a year ago. The Vulgate they
have is the Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft, Stuttgart, c 1969, 1983. It comes
on several Macintosh floppies, and was $60.


#3: Center for Computer Analysis of Texts
Both the PHI ROM and Linguist's Software got their Vulgate from CCAT.
For current information, contact Robert Kraft, Professor of Religious 
Studies, University of Pennsylvania at Philadelphia.  His email address is 
kraft@penndrls.upenn.edu.  The Center's U.S. mail address is:

	CCAT
	Box 36 College Hall
	University of Pennsylvania
	Philadelphia, PA 19104-6303
	(215) 898-1597 / 5827

Materials are available on CD-ROM, diskette (Mac, Atari, CP/M, MS-DOS, 
IBYCUS).  Various utlity software (such as concordance generators and 
reformatters) is also available.

Mike Martin
aardvark@ial3.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: sci.classics,sci.lang
From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Subject: Re: Quackery? Re: Greek words of Semitic Origin
Organization: LLNL
Distribution: sci,world
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:20:03 GMT

In article <Bw0GI2.7Bo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.101217.19945@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
$ In article <1992Oct12.032658.23804@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>
>			....................
>
$ 	It would be interesting to find the Hebrew equivalents of each
$ and see how they stack up. I confess I know little about Hebrew, but
$ comparing the numerals reveals _no_ resemblance to IE.  This suggests
$ that the common ancestor was so far back in the past that its speakers
$ had numerals up to only 2 or 3, which is common among "primitive"
$ people with not much to keep a detailed count of.

>Anyone with a modest knowledge of Hebrew will disagree with you here.
>This does not mean to me that there is a common origin, as with independent
>evolution of languages there are bound to have some coincidences.  Anyhow,
>the Hebrew for six (shishi) and for seven (sh'vii) are sufficiently similar
>to the IE terms that one cannot say there is no resemblance.  The final "i"
>in both of these is the adjective ending and not part of the root.

	I guess I goofed here.

	I agree that Hebrew and Arabic both resemble IE fairly closely
for "6" and "7", but not for any other numerals. How do other Semitic
languages compare? Any reconstructed proto-Semitic forms?

	I've seen the theory that borrowing was involved, probably
from Semitic to IE.

	For the IE numerals, I've also seen theories like "5" from
"fist", "8" from the dual of something (*okto: shares the dual ending
of *dwo:, "2"), "9" from "new" (*newn from *newos), and "10" from
"swollen one" (?) (courtesy of Thomas Scharle).

	Any similar analyses for the numerals of other language
families? For example, I've seen the theory that Dravidian was
originally base 8, but later reformed to base 10 (Mar. 1983 _Sci Am_,
"The Indus Valley Script"(?)).