HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.emacs
Subject: Re: New Maps of --
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:44:08 GMT
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: doom@elaine5.Stanford.EDU's message of 13 Apr 92 09:42:39 GMT

In article <DOOM.92Apr13024239@elaine5.Stanford.EDU> doom@elaine5.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner) writes:

   ** Use C-? instead of C-h for help

Of course you know that C-? is not actually a "control" character, but
instead is another name for DEL.  Does anyone know how the name of C-?
ever got attached to DEL?

   ** Use C-" for quoting control characters rather than C-q

C-" is not a character at all.  On my keyboard Control-DoubleQuote (which
is Control-Shift-Apostrophe) generates C-b.

-- 
Enjoy,

Joe Wells <jbw@cs.bu.edu>

Member of the League for Programming Freedom --- send e-mail for details
From: isds22013010@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Purification Rundown and Scientology
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:19:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: memstvx1.1992Apr8.121923.1768
Organization: Memphis State University


    I am delighted to see that there is now a Scientology group on here.  I
saw that someone was discussing the purification rundown, and I would like 
to add a comment...

    Several very good friends of mine have done the purif, and the were all
very pleased with the result.  None of them were what you would call heavy
drug users (only alcohol and occasional marijuana use) but the results that
they obtained were very worthwhile.  The most remarkable case was one person
who's IQ raised by twenty-two points over the twenty days it took him to 
complete the program.

    Another thing that I would like to add concerning the purif is that it
is very effective at handling the effects of radiation on the body.  A
test of the purif on victims of the Chernobyl accident sponsored by the 
Russian government was found to lower radiation levels in the body by as much
as fifty to seventy percent.  This is remarkable when you consider that 
previous efforts made by The United States and former Soviet Union were unable
to lower the amount of radiation in the victim's bodies by as much as one 
percent.

    As a result of this test, the Russian government will be setting up very
large facilities for the delivery of the purification program to affected
people!

    Another thing that I would like to add is that very often people who
make derogatory statements about Scientology are criminals, drug abusers, or
people who profit from keeping other people in ignorance about their 
spirituality.  The only way you will really know what Scientology is about
is to read some of L. Ron Hubbards books for yourself.  I would recommend
that someone new to the subject get the books Scientology: The Fundamentals
of Thought or The Problems of Work by LRH.   You can get them at a bookstore
or at your library.   You should read these books to decide what Scientology
is for yourself, not what Geraldo or TIME magazine says.

    The most basic belief of Scientology is that what is true is what is true
for you.  In other words, find out for yourself and don't always believe 
what you are told because some "authority" says that is the way it is.

    I hope this helps....

    Much Love,
    John Holifield
From: pgluck@kathy.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Gluck)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Xemu
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:16:55 GMT
Reply-To: pgluck@kathy.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Gluck)
Organization: Jpl.Nasa.Gov

Oh, heck, somebody might as well touch this one . . .

lindsay+@cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) writes:
|> 
|> isds22013010@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
|> >    The most basic belief of Scientology is that what is true is what is true
|> >for you.  In other words, find out for yourself and don't always believe 
|> >what you are told because some "authority" says that is the way it is.
|> 
|> The flip side is that you are not supposed to object to ludicrous
|> teachings, I suppose because they may eventually become true for you.
|> Even if they are self contradictory. For example, in the following
|> Xemu file - just how do you freeze an immaterial supernatural being
|> with a liquid?

Actually, the flip side is that you do not *need* to object to "ludicrous"
teachings because nobody is insisting that *you* accept them as fact. 
This is rather unlike some religions that have "ludicrous" albeit
less fanciful teachings (walking on water, parting of seas, etc.).
Having no personal knowledge (that I recall) :) of Xemu, I really have no
opinion on the validity of the story.  I do not accept it on faith.
It does make for good reading, though.

A few more comments:

|>     Nevertheless, the Los Angeles Times had already obtained access
|> to the documents, which were submitted as part of a civil case
|> brought by former Scientologist Larry Wollersheim, before lawyers
|> for the Scientologists requested they be sealed.

Wollersheim lost that case.  "There are also very often reputable, honest
people, such as judges."

|>     Scientology is widely known for its use of "auditing", a form of
|> one-to-one counselling in which a lie-detector-like instrument called
|> an E-meter is used to help a person erase negative experiences,
|> supposedly freeing him to achieve his full potential.

Kinda accurate in a sort of slanted, LA Slimes way.

|>     Shortly before noon, [Judge] Margolis, at the request of Scientology
|> lawyers, resealed the materials, pending a hearing later this week.

They have remained sealed since then, I believe.

Add Purif:

I and both my parents have done the Purif.  I have experienced no adverse
health effects since then (that was in 1984).  My parents, now 51 and 61,
did the Purif before I did (sorry, I don't remember when) and are
both in very good health.  I know this is anecdotal, but I just don't see
any evidence that the Purif, as marketed and conducted by the Church of
Scientology, is harmful in any way.

By the way, folks -- I'm back.  Thumb's almost as good as new.  My
participation will probably be intermitent, though.  Got a spacecraft to
launch in September, don't ya know.  Adios amigos.


				Peter Gluck
				pgluck@kathy.jpl.nasa.gov
From: mlbst25+@pitt.edu (Monica L Boyle)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Is it true?
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:21:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

A friend of mine just informed me of a fact that I wanted to check out here.
It seems that Robert Heinlen and Mr. Hubbard had a bet as to which of them
could start a religion first.
Is this true?


Monica Boyle
mlbst25+@pitt.edu
mlbst25@pittvms
From: isds22013010@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Thank You
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:02:52 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

Hello...
  
    Thank you to everyone who sent me E-mail concerning my post from last
week.  Unfourtunately, I don't have the capability to respond by E-mail.
However, if you give me your name and mailing address, I will be sure to
respond via the post office.

    I am also glad that so many of you have read the books I recommended
to you.  I would like to hear about your successes with Scientology.
 
Much Love,
John Holifield
From: lindsay+@cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Xemu
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:24:26 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


pgluck@kathy.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Gluck) writes:
>lindsay+@cs.cmu.edu (Donald Lindsay) writes:
>|> 
>|> isds22013010@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>|> >    The most basic belief of Scientology is that what is true is what is true
>|> >for you.  In other words, find out for yourself and don't always believe 
>|> >what you are told because some "authority" says that is the way it is.
>|> 
>|> The flip side is that you are not supposed to object to ludicrous
>|> teachings, I suppose because they may eventually become true for you.
>|> Even if they are self contradictory. For example, in the following
>|> Xemu file - just how do you freeze an immaterial supernatural being
>|> with a liquid?
>
>Actually, the flip side is that you do not *need* to object to "ludicrous"
>teachings because nobody is insisting that *you* accept them as fact. 
>This is rather unlike some religions that have "ludicrous" albeit
>less fanciful teachings (walking on water, parting of seas, etc.).
>Having no personal knowledge (that I recall) :) of Xemu, I really have no
>opinion on the validity of the story.  I do not accept it on faith.
>It does make for good reading, though.

You need to take a course in logic. That isn't the flip side: that
is the original premise.

The flip side is that you "have no opinion on the validity of the
story".  You should.  This is a teaching of your Church.  Given that
it's self contradictory, disproven by the geologic evidence, and a
good imitation of clinical insanity, I would have hoped that it
*bothered* you.
-- 
Don		D.C.Lindsay 	Carnegie Mellon Computer Science
Newsgroups: alt.national.enquirer
Subject: DOLPHIN BORN WITH ARMS SPKS IN SIGN!
From: mertes@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:21:50 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

SHOCKING NEW PHOTOS


DOLPHIN BORN WITH ARMS SPEAKS IN SIGN LANGUAGE------AND LOOKS LIKE ELVIS!
From: jrv@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (JR VanMechelen)
Newsgroups: alt.national.enquirer
Subject: 500 years old or young for aliens?
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:05:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Howdy,

Headline of this week's World Weekly News (I think) has something like
"Space Aliens 500 years old!"  My question, why would anyone expect
them to be young?  After all, they have to travel millions of miles to
get here.  Anyone read the article?  Does it say why this is a
surprise?

So long,
JR

Newsgroups: alt.national.enquirer
From: jyanowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: hello?!?!
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:15:02 GMT

anyone out here every bother to check thi?


btw, weekly world news is much better than the nat'l enquirer
-- 

Jason

   "Uhhh...Uhhh..Uhhh..I...Uhhh...Would...Uhhh...like to recognize...uuhhh...
    speaking of director's....uuh...John Singleton and Matty Rich...(...)people
    who bring new lifeblood to this industry."
       ---Jonathon Demme, stammering to a damn good point at the Oscar's.
Newsgroups: alt.national.enquirer
From: techno@lime.in-berlin.de (Techno)
Subject: Re: hello?!?!
Organization: LIME Systems featuring a TOGA Party
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 18:00:49 GMT

jyanowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

>btw, weekly world news is much better than the nat'l enquirer
 
That's beside the point. The worse the better.

Techno

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Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: ian christian rogers <irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: re:hello
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 15:10:22 -0500

In article <12133@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu writes:
>Anyway, as I was telling Mike, when we were skating the freestyle contests,
>there was a SMALL group of maybe eight of us who were at all the CASL contests

     Stuff deleted...


>Anyway, the point im getting at is that I'm jut upset that credit does not
>go to deserving people. NO, TONY HAWK, JUSTIN GERARD DID NOT INVENT THE
>PRESSURE FLIP.  Jeremy Ramey, Sean Coons, Daryl Grogan, me, Mike Kinney,
>Andres Comacho, Robert Rodrigues, Tim Waldusky, Matt Wood. Are any of these
>names familiar? I thought not. Its too bad, but I dont even think any of
>these people skate anymore. Their sponsors all dropped them, they got
>jobs or went to school, or they just got burned out from skating alone
>and getting no credit or enthusiasm from other skaters.
>I'm sorry this letter is so long, I shot off longer than I thought I would.
>My apologies if this seems like a "bitter old man" type letter, but I just
>felt it needed to be said, because there simply are not any freestylers 
>still involved in skating left to speak for us. Ah well, that's life.
>-clif


Ahhh yes.  As with everything, the old become frustrated with te new if
the new do not aknowledge the old.  Point well taken.  I think it was
Pete Townsend (former rocker) who said of rap something like
(paraphrasing here) "...It is not up to us to understand rap, we just
need to get the fuck out of the way..."  I more and more feel myself
getting the fuck out of the way... 

Seriously, I get your point.  Skating has evolved into something that
I'd never dreamed of.  

What about all this psuedo-surrealism that is floating around the skate
world of today?  Remember when Neil Blender was the only one pulling
that shit?  Now it has become TRENDY to be surreal.  HOW WONDERFUL. 


ian
-- 

Ian Rogers
irogers@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: CEREAL:Golden Grahams, Frosted Flakes
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:53:22 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

In article <92095.152256IO10902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO10902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (tim jones) writes:
>i think it is chris miller.


yep...  it is chris miller  "gee tony those guys are good.


-- 
6o25@sdf.lonestar.org                            ..!uunet!convex!egsner!sdf!6o25
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: eab@uh.msc.edu (Edward Bertsch)
Subject: Skateboards not welcome at U of M - and they don't care
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:48:08 GMT


Page 5, Minnesota Daily, Friday, 10 April 1992
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Skateboarders are no longer welcome at the University, and in-line
skaters will have to take their wheels off at the door of all campus
buildings.

A regents' committee Thursday voted to ammend the bicycle code to
forbid skaters to roll through hallways, and to ban the use of
skateboards on all University property in the Twin Cities.

[...]

More than a dozen skaters came to applaud their skates being 
recognized as a viable form of transportation.

[...]

Stephen Miller, a College of Liberal Arts junior who likes to
commute to school by skateboard, was the lone representative
of skateboarders.

[...]

But safety for the other "99.9 percent of students who walk to class,"
as Regent David Roe put it, remains the focus of the ban.

"I think the key here is public safety," he said, ending discussion
of the skateboard ban.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------


OK, so what the fuck is the difference between skateboards as transportation
and puss-skates as transportation?

And what a bunch of wimps, only one guy showed up.  Congrats to S. Miller,
but he should have russled up a few friends to attend this friendly
meeting.

--

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Operations/User Services          1200 Washington Avenue South
(612) 626-1571 work               Minneapolis, Minnesota  55415
(612) 645-0168 voice mail

	"Read _MY_ lips: I won't be voting for Bush in 1992"

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Subject: Re: Stuff Re: Skateboards not welcome at U of M - and they don't care
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
	<1992Apr13.165630.28122@csn.org>
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:09:47

Phil!  You're back!

In article <1992Apr13.165630.28122@csn.org> netwise@teal.csn.org
(Netwise Inc) writes:

>First, I'm fairly certain that an ever-increasing popularity for
>"puss-skating," with no more regard for the safety and comfort of the rest of
>the population will rectify this inequality within the next 2 years.

If some of the inline skaters I see around don't get a little
more civil, then I can hardly wait for the banning to start.

>Second, there are things that can allow skates to not be rolling in places
>where rolling isn't appropriate. In-line skate guards should soon be appearing
>on the market; one will be able to immobilize all wheels in about 10 seconds.

I find the news of this "in-line skate guard" most disturbing,
because I won't be fond at all of seeing one of these things
appear in an area that's supposed to be wheelchair-accessible.
There are a lot of wheelchairs that use small plastic front
casters like in-line skate wheels.

--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos)
Subject: Re: hello
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:24:02 GMT

In article <12112@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez006882@rocky.ucdavis.edu writes:
>why is this newsgroup so dead as of late? is anyone out there. 
>oh well, I would only assume that youre all out skating all the time :)
>-clif

Well, today is the last day of classes for all the students here,
and everyone else is probably out skating.

We've had some pretty good weather here lately, so I'm sure all the street
skaters are out enjoying it. Unfortunately, the skatepark that I go to
is indoors, so I don't get to enjoy the weather on my board (I don't
street skate much any more).

Of course, I don't complain about the indoor parks in January,
when it's -10 degrees Celcius outside :-)

One more thing, Jordan Richter (skates for Blind) is in Toronto right now,
staying at Billy Weiss's house. I saw him at the park the other night,
but he was just dorking around the street area.

Did everyone get the 2 GIFs I posted earlier this week?
Or is nobody out there interested in vert skating?
-- 
Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Skateboards not welcome at U of M - and they don't care
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:45:17 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Apr11.014808.28680@uc.msc.edu> eab@uh.msc.edu (Edward Bertsch) writes:
> 
> Page 5, Minnesota Daily, Friday, 10 April 1992
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Skateboarders are no longer welcome at the University, and in-line
> skaters will have to take their wheels off at the door of all campus
> buildings.
> 
> A regents' committee Thursday voted to ammend the bicycle code to
> forbid skaters to roll through hallways, and to ban the use of
> skateboards on all University property in the Twin Cities.

...

> But safety for the other "99.9 percent of students who walk to class,"
> as Regent David Roe put it, remains the focus of the ban.
> 
> "I think the key here is public safety," he said, ending discussion
> of the skateboard ban.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> OK, so what the fuck is the difference between skateboards as transportation
> and puss-skates as transportation?

perceptions and realities?

> And what a bunch of wimps, only one guy showed up.  Congrats to S. Miller,
> but he should have russled up a few friends to attend this friendly
> meeting.

Well, look at the bright side of this.  They've farily clearly defined
the grounds for why they consider skateboarding to be non-acceptable.

If someone can get ~5-10 skateboarders together to the next meeting and
present a convincing case that skateboards on campus *are* transportation
and not just hanging out *and* try to get someone from security to actually
testify *factually* as to the number or lack of skateboarder<->pedestrian
accidents in the last N years, then it should be quite easy to get equal
rights for skateboarders.

puss-skates, huh?  give it a try bud...

-- 
George Robbins - now working for,     uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
but no way officially representing:   domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
Commodore, Engineering Department     phone:  215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest)
Subject: Re: Stuff Re: Skateboards not welcome at U of M - and they don't care
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:32:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.170741.11281@athena.mit.edu> byron@athena.mit.edu (Jack Miller) writes:
>The one he snapped at the fountain was the new
>DUNE.  Is that a World board?  Because the board he broke before that
>was a World board, he said.  Are World boards that soft?  Be careful
>when buying that new deck...

 No, Chris "Dune" Pastras now rides for Milk. World boards are that thin 
 though.. the 101 motto is "guaranteed to break".

 P.S. The last time MTV Sports did a segment on street skating is was totally
 lame, and filmed like crap. (I'm not talking about the Frankie Hill segment).
From: trunz@inf.ethz.ch (Paul Martin Trunz)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Re: Stuff Re: Skateboards not welcome at U of M - and they don't care
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:38:35 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Swiss Federal Institute of technology (ETH), Zurich

In article <1992Apr13.165630.28122@csn.org> netwise@teal.csn.org (Netwise Inc) writes:
>If you want to really be pissed off, compare skateboarding to automobile
>travel. What a wasteful, absurd way of getting around. This should piss you
>off far more than bicycling, walking, or even "puss-skating."

Most people need a ton of metal to transport their four wheels,
I got mine in one hand.

>
>Phil Earnhardt			pae@netwise.com
>Netwise, Inc.			Boulder, CO  (303) 442-8280

						Patru
From: jeffs@soul.esd.sgi.com (Jeff Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: STANFORD kills skateboarding
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:12:22 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

Standford University has outlawed skateboarding.  I used to
ride there sometimes 2 years ago.  Apparently it turned into
the hot spot after (high) school let out and it was too noisy.

Another spot bites the dust.

jeffs
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: dfx@nuchat.sccsi.com (dFx International Digest)
Subject: Re: hello
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:40:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.192402.19009@ecf.toronto.edu> steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos) writes:
>
>Did everyone get the 2 GIFs I posted earlier this week?
>Or is nobody out there interested in vert skating?

 Yeah, got them both, but haven't had the chance to check them out yet. 
 Definitely appreciate it, and definitely into it. Keep it up if possible,
 if I had a scanner I'd be doing it too.. probably just to focus attention 
 on myself, but hey, I'd be doing it.

 Vert is totally happening. It's too bad that the bulk of the general skate 
 scene don't pay any attention to it. I skate both, to the full extent, keeping
 up with the current tricks/riders/scene, and can easily say that vert is much
 more of a free experience than street. Street is like one huge vibefest it
 seems, as where vert riders are more open to newcomers and don't worry about 
 whether or not you can do this trick or that trick. One of the stupidest
 things I see that happens alot, atleast to myself, is when I'm at the park
 skating street and then I'll go skate vert and my friends will say that they
 really want to learn how to skate vert yet always fast forward vert parts in
 videos. They always scream at me for not whizzing by Frazier, Boyle, Lasek,
 etc..  Maybe you gotta skate it to understand, they always say it's boring 
 to watch.

 Send more gifs..