HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461)
Subject: Re: Need screen minder/security widget
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:48:31 GMT

rayh@eng.auburn.edu (Ray W. Hiltbrand) writes:
: In article 24493@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL, lev@ipxed5.nswses.navy.mil (Lloyd E Vancil) writes:
: >
: >I need a replacement for lockscreen or screensaver under openwin 3.0
: >on a sun network
: >
: >I need a program that acts like screensaver and lockscreen combined.
: >It should time out to a secured screen saver after x time of no
: >activity.  It should allow access with the root password to kill the
: >locked session.  It should go to a lockscreen type of screen saver
: >on command or time out.
: >
: >
: >Anyone know of such a thing?
: >
: 
: Try xautolock which can be ftped from export.lcs.mit.edu in the 
: /contrib directory
: 
: Ray
: ---
: 

You can also check out Xlockup available via ftp from tinman.mke.ab.com
in the /software directory.  version 1.1 is in there now.  I should be
releasing 2.0 in the near future.  It's main advantage is a xview based
interface with buttons and slidebars and such. 

--
Thad Phetteplace
Network Systems Analyst, Allen-Bradley Co.
Phone: (414)382-4461
Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com

The opinions expressed here are entirely my own and not that of my employer.
I am not a slob, I am simply doing an experiment in domestic entropy!
From: fan@tammy.cath.puh.upmc.edu (Ningping Fan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:16:52 GMT
	<1992Dec8.163629.20626@ncsu.edu> <1992Dec12.034820.14970@wam.umd.edu>
Organization: School of Medicine, Univ. of Pittsburgh, USA
In-reply-to: almquist@wam.umd.edu's message of 12 Dec 92 03:48:20 GMT

One of problem to use X11R5 to replace OW2/3 is some of the useful
applications in OW2/3 do not work, such as mailtool (a extreamly useful one),
dbxtool. Could you tell me how to make them work? I am fully agree with
you that PD softwares do not work well in OW2 except better in OW3.
Other very improtant applications are edittool and save environment.
-
Ningping Fan, U.P.
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From: barryl@pissarro.tansu.com.au (Barry Lightbody)
Subject: Second hand copy of Devguide V3.0
Reply-To: barryl@pissarro.tansu.com.au
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:50:29 GMT

Does anyone have a second hand copy of Devguide V3.0 that they are interested in
selling?

The purchase price of a new version takes it beyond my limits, especially when you 
include the original purchase of V1.1 and with there being no upgrade policy.

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barryl@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au		        Fax  : +612- 395 322
From: pmurphy@nrao.edu (Pat Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Calendar Manager (OW3) core dumps
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:25:35 GMT
Followup-To: <pmurphy@nrao.edu> via email please
Distribution: comp
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

We are in the process of installing OpenWindows 3 and have put it in
/usr/openwin3 during the transition period.  A few of us are having
problems with the new version of cm.  Basically, the darn thing core
dumps on us with a seg. fault anytime an appointment comes up.  It
does manage to blink and beep, but it seems that the problem occurs
when it tries to pop-up the reminder window.  

I tried running dbx on the core file and got this:

    orangutan_pmurphy<526> dbx /usr/openwin3/bin/cm core
    Reading symbolic information...
    Read 1191 symbols
    warning: core file read error: address not in data space
    program terminated by signal SEGV (no mapping at the fault address)
    (dbx) where
    warning: core file read error: address not in data space
    xv_create_avlist() at 0xf7662244
    xv_create() at 0xf766210c
    make_postup_frame() at 0xe8f4
    open_it() at 0x2628
    reminder_driver() at 0x2720
    notify_itimer() at 0xf7657c48
    ndis_default_prioritizer() at 0xf7651c10
    notify_client() at 0xf7652890
    ndis_default_scheduler() at 0xf7652924
    gh__scheduler() at 0xf7653578
    ndis_dispatch() at 0xf7652024
    notify_start() at 0xf76f5284
    xv_main_loop() at 0xf773525c
    main() at 0x6aac

I've tried messing with LD_LIBRARY_PATH, my PATH, and various
combinations thereof to no avail (e.g., removing all references to the
old OW libraries in LD_LIBRARY_PATH and the old OW bins in PATH).  Any
pointers on where to look would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, this occurs with an X11R5 X server AND the Xnews (OW3 or OW2)
servers.  My window manager is tvtwm if that makes any difference.
Also, our sysadmin is not particularly sympathetic; it works for him
:-( and I can't see offhand what difference (of the hundreds) in our
setups might be causing this.

TIA,
				- Pat

P.S. Please email and I'll summarize if there's any interest shown in
     doing so.  Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461)
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:58:31 GMT

daryl@piano.adept.ih.att.com (55000-Daryl Monge(ih1439)392) writes:
: 
:    One of problem to use X11R5 to replace OW2/3 is some of the useful
:    applications in OW2/3 do not work, such as mailtool (a extreamly useful one),
: 
: I use mailtool all the time with the X11R5/olwm.  Absolutely no problems
: of any kind.
: 
: The biggest problem I have seen is OW applications expecting fonts that don't
: match in X11.  The spreadsheet WingZ and project planning too Autoplan both
: have font problems.
: 
: Is there a solution to the above?
: 

I think all you need to do is copy your openwindows fonts into your X11R5
font directory and rebuild your font database.  Check out the man pages on
xlsfonts and bldfamily.

Hope this helps,

--
Thad Phetteplace
Network Systems Analyst, Allen-Bradley Co.
Phone: (414)382-4461
Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com

The opinions expressed here are entirely my own and not that of my employer.
I am not a slob, I am simply doing an experiment in domestic entropy!
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: OpenLook Libraries
Keywords: OpenLook Libraries Compilation Errors
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:43:25 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.apps
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>I applied patches, number 100512-03 and 100573-04, in the hope that
>we could resume running our old X11-R5 clients.  Not so...  We continue
>to receive such displeasing messages as...
>
>ld.so: Undefined symbol: _XmuNewCvtStringToWidget
>
>whenever we try to run X11-R5 clients.  Does anyone out there know of
>a patch that will fix this problem?

I suspect Sun will come out with something that will fix that problem,
at some point.

I suspect it'll be called "Open Windows 4.0".

You will probably have the same problem if you try to run your
dynamically-linked "old X11R5 clients" on any *other* flavor of X11R4,
such as MIT X11R4; an "nm" of the MIT X11R4 "libXmu.a" *and*
"libXmu.so.4.0" reveals no symbol named "_XmuNewCvtStringToWidget" in
either of them.  I suspect it was introduced in X11R5....

I.e., the problem isn't that Sun's implementation of X11R4 is bad, it's
that you're trying to run X11R5 clients on a machine with X11R4 shared
libraries.  You'll have to either:

	1) statically-link the X11R5 clients on a machine with X11R5
	   versions of the libraries;

	2) install the X11R5 shared libraries on your machine, and
	   arrange that your clients - or, at least, the X11R5 clients -
	   link with *those* libraries rather than with the Open Windows
	   or other X11R4-vintage libraries;

	3) wait for Sun to come out with an X11R5-based Open Windows
	   release (I suspect OW 4.0 will be X11R5-based, unless an
	   X11R6 or later comes out in time for it).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: jayb@laplace.MATH.ColoState.EDU (Jay Bourland)
Subject: Re: SimCity for Sun - Yeah!!!
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:38:28 GMT
Organization: /home/laplace/jayb/.organization

How/Whom do you contact at Sun to get the Catalyst 4 CD-ROM??
--
Jay Bourland
jayb@Math.ColoState.EDU
From: daryl@piano.adept.ih.att.com (55000-Daryl Monge(ih1439)392)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:54:32 GMT
	<1992Dec8.163629.20626@ncsu.edu> <1992Dec12.034820.14970@wam.umd.edu>
	<FAN.92Dec13201652@tammy.cath.puh.upmc.edu>
Organization: 5ESS(TM)-US Release Management
In-reply-to: fan@tammy.cath.puh.upmc.edu's message of 14 Dec 92 01:16:52 GMT


   One of problem to use X11R5 to replace OW2/3 is some of the useful
   applications in OW2/3 do not work, such as mailtool (a extreamly useful one),

I use mailtool all the time with the X11R5/olwm.  Absolutely no problems
of any kind.

The biggest problem I have seen is OW applications expecting fonts that don't
match in X11.  The spreadsheet WingZ and project planning too Autoplan both
have font problems.

Is there a solution to the above?

Daryl Monge			AT&T Bell Labs
EMAIL: daryl@adept.att.com	VOICE: 708-713-4696
GEnie: D.MONGE
PAPER: Rm 2A-448   P.O. Box 3050, Naperville, Il 60566
From: aad@siemens.com. (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:34:23 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corp. Res., Inc.


>Will the Andrew Toolkit X tools run under OW 3?

Why not?  Granted, I've never tried it, since I'm only just now in an
environment where people actually run OW 3.
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From: lchoi@usc.edu (L. Vera Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: binaries of X11R5 for Sun4
Date: 13 Dec 1992 16:33:04 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


hi,

Does anybody know where I can find the binaries of X11R5
running on Sun4 (SunOS 4.1)?

Thanks.

Vera Choi
lchoi@usc.edu
From: db74+@andrew.cmu.edu (Derrick J. Brashear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:36:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cf=pgcq00VIGI1V4Mi
	<111327@siemens.siemens.com>
Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.sun.apps: 14-Dec-92 Re: Dumping OW and
running .. Anthony Datri) (615)

> The last time I saw mailtool, it was just an interface to /usr/ucb/mail
> without added features.  There are plenty of more featureful user mail agents
> out there, like Messages from the Andrew ToolKit.  Even if you still want
> to run mailtool, though, just put /usr/openwin/lib after /usr/lib/X11 in
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  It's just an XView client and thus in no way requires the
> xnews server.
The only problem with ATK applications is they require special fonts, or
the pointers and other icons and such don't look right. Bear in mind, I
like Messages. I'm using it right now:-)

If only it didn't use those weird fonts....

-D
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: mcdono@nosc.mil (Tim McDonough CSC Room 191 Phone 553 3102 )
Subject: Pageview config file
Reply-To: mcdono@nosc.mil
Organization: NCCOSC, NRaD Division
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:49:47 GMT

Quick question on Pageview.
I've alias'd pageview to several options, if there
a .pageview or similar startup file?

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Computer Sciences Corp.         |   do not reflect those of my employer
mcdono@sunspot.nosc.mil         |   or the Susquehanna Hat Company.
From: oren@cognos.indigo.hellnet.org (Oren Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Intergraph Microstation SPARC
Keywords: CAD
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:00:36 GMT
Organization: Indigo Ltd., Israel.

I'd like to hear from anyone with experience using the Intergraph
Microstation CAD package on SPARC's (or clones). We installed the
software on a network of SPARC clones a few months ago, and have
have encountered various and sundry bugs & other problems.

Hope this entry is appropriate for this group - I'm new at this thing.
Thanx.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Oren Levine - CAD Support Engineer
Indigo, Ltd.
Rehovot, ISRAEL
Internet: oren@indigo.hellnet.org
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From: aad@siemens.com. (Anthony Datri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Date: 10 Dec 92 22:33:03 GMT
Organization: Siemens Corp. Res., Inc.

>>installed X11R5 "straight".  It works great!  I know OW3 is better
>>than OW2, but I've seen it, and I'm still not impressed.

I won't comment on "better", but "bigger" is certainly true.

>Since SUN ships it with their Sparcs, whether or not one wants it is
>irrelevant. It's already there.

You run the preinstalled stuff?
>
>	- you get it bundled with (relatively) useful utilities (file mgr,
>	  calendar mgr, calc, mailtool, etc, etc)

All of which, to my knowledge, have no dependency on the xnews server, and
will run just fine against a normal server with normal libraries.

>	- most of SUN's apps assume you have openwin installed
>(AnswerBook, NewsPrint, cdmanager

If you use them in the first place.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum)
Subject: SunPC versus SoftPC
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:58:16 GMT

Can someone tell me the difference between
SunPC 3.0 and SoftPC 2.1?  Also, is anyone
using the accelerator board for these packages?
How much of a difference does it make.

thanks
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Cypress Southeast Design Center | office: (601) 324-4609, FAX - 4614
1 Research Blvd, Suite 200      | "You can get what you want if you
Starkville, MS  39759           | know how to find it." -- Tower of Power


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham)
Subject: Re: Mathematica manual for Sparcs?
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:39:28 GMT

jburne@spock.uucp (John Burnette) writes:

>The SUN version of Mathematica does not include a notebook interface like those
>available on Mac's or NeXT's. Ask your administrator if your network supports 
>running the frontend interface on a Mac and the processing kernal on the Sun.
>It makes a significant difference.

I think that there is a new version for SUn that includes the Notebook
feature.

-PaulR.
From: daryl@piano.adept.ih.att.com (55000-Daryl Monge(ih1439)392)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: SimCity for Sun
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:32:20 GMT
Organization: 5ESS(TM)-US Release Management
In-reply-to: ANDREW@odin.uniras.dk's message of 17 Dec 92 15:02:13 GMT


The downside to SimCity on Sun/News is you will probably get substantially
better performance from a $1000 Mac/PC/Atari/Amiga!

Daryl Monge			AT&T Bell Labs
EMAIL: daryl@adept.att.com	VOICE: 708-713-4696
GEnie: D.MONGE
PAPER: Rm 2A-448   P.O. Box 3050, Naperville, Il 60566
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: rterek@megatek.com (Robert Terek [Contractor])
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: FrameMaker vs. IslandWrite
Reply-To: rterek@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:48:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.205142.29915@ncar.ucar.edu> mike@chinook.atd.ucar.edu writes:
>
>Here is a summary of the responses I received regarding advantages/disadvantages
>of FrameMaker and IslandWrite.  In general, people felt that Frame was a
>better choice for more complex document preparation, while Island* was better
>for painting/drawing and simple documents:
...
...
>Ronald Guest (ron.guest@rss.dl.nec.com) writes:
>
>>So based on our experience, I would pick Island* for casual/small 
>>usage and Frame for formal documentation.  The biggest advantage
>>of Island* is price.
>
...
...
>Jonathan B. Horen (horen@netcom.com) writes:
>
>>If [you want to create memos, letters, proposals, newsletters and
>>documentation] then I suggest FrameMaker (as a 3-year FrameMaker user, and
>>3-year FrameMaker Administrator, and 17-year TechWriter).  If [you want to
>>create small business bulletins, handouts, quizzes, diagrams, flowcharts,
>>orgcharts, etc.] then I suggest IslandWrite/Draw/Paint.
...
...
...

These opinions are fine, but they don't contain much information.
*Why* is Island not suitable for "complex" documents? "Island is
ok for handouts, quizzes..."  *Why*? What features does it lack
that make it unsuitable for larger documents?

One important feature Island never had was some sort of "anchored
frame" (or container, in Island-speak) but I hear that 4.0 finally
has it. So, what holds it back?

I'm not flaming here, I'd just like to know the basis for these opinions.


Thanks,


                                                        -Bob

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From: rayh@eng.auburn.edu (Ray W. Hiltbrand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: GNU C/C++ for Sun
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:47:46 GMT
Reply-To: rayh@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering

In article 20991@ims.com, davek@kestrel.ims.com (Dave Koon) writes:
+>
+>
+>You can ftp the latest gnu programs from aeneas.mit.edu  in the /pub/gnu directory
+>
+>Ray
+>---
+This is probably a FAQ but, where would I find precompiled gnu stuff for
+Solaris2?
+
+Thanks,
+
+Dave Koon


The compilers you are looking for for Solaris are the cygnus compilers and they can be found at

Host  ftp.uu.net

    Location: /vendor/cygnus
           FILE -rw-r--r--    5851617  Sep  4 19:35  cygnus-sol2-1.0.bin.tar.Z
       
There is also an uncompiled file in the same directory.... But why compile something you don't
have to....
From: raoul@eplunix.UUCP (Nico Garcia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: GIF viewer for OpenWindows3.0
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:16:11 GMT
Organization: Eaton-Peabody Lab, Boston, MA

In article <BywFHy.7wx@micromuse.co.uk>,
dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan) writes:
> Nntp-Posting-Host: highgate
> You do know you already have one? You can load GIF files into SnapShot....
> 
> Otherwise, get xv2.2x at all good FTP sites.
> 

Get xv2.2x anyway: it's friendlier, offers much more control of the image,
can handle truncated files, and does jpeg files without converting them.
Very nice product that compiled and runs well on our Sparc running SunOS
4.1.2.

				
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			Nico Garcia
			CIRL/MEEI
			eddie.mit.edu!eplunix!raoul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: altizer@figaro (Robert Altizer)
Subject: RBAK/WBAK utility for Sun?
Reply-To: altizer@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:38:19 GMT

I need to be able to read tapes on my Sun SPARCStation 2 that were created
on Apollo or HP 9000/400 workstations using the WBAK command.  Does anyone
know of a utility that permits this?  The tapes are standard DC-600 (QIC)
form that I read on /dev/rst0.  A nice, but not necessary addition, would
be ability to write Apollo-compatible tapes as well.

Please respond by email if possible.  Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Bob

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From: gnaa38@udcf.gla.ac.uk (Paul Porcelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Mtools
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:48:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Does anyone out there know much about some public-domain software called
Mtools.
I need to read from a Dos formatted optical disk onto a SPARCstation10
and have been told this should do the trick. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks a lot 
Paul Porcelli
Dept of Aerospace Engineering
Glasgow University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: almquist@wam.umd.edu (Squish)
Subject: Re: Dumping OW and running X11R5(Was: Speed of Openwin 3)
Organization: Human Interface Technology Lab (on vacation)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:48:20 GMT

1) Performance on a sun running either OW2 or OW3 is *STILL* not as good as
   vanilla X - end of discussion.

I found myself stuck at a job sys. admining for a site with 100+ Suns (ranging
from IPCs to 670MP servers).  OW2/3 is a dog on ALL the various machines.
Previous administration had brainwashed everyone into using and liking OW2/3.
After screaming for a while I was determined to show them why I was so adamant
against OW2/3.  FYI OW2 (everything, demos, binaries, libs, man pages) takes
up approx 20-30 meg. disc space, OW3 (again everything) takes up 80 meg. disc
space, X11R4/5 (again everything) takes up 20-30 meg. disc space - sure, you
could throw everything you don't need out.  Anyways, back to the story, so,
I slap X11R5 in place, snag the OLWM window manager and slap that into place
and TA-DA!  Vanilla X but yet it still looks and feels like OW2/3 BUT it
acts like X - its FAST!  But then people come in and moan and groan that
filemanger, cmdtool, etc don't work.  Simple solution: slap the libs from the
OW release in place and everything is HAPPY (not the whole libs remind you -
just the weird ones like xview/tt*/etc)!  ONLY major problem I've run into
is that NeWS programs won't run using this setup - but, for me, who cares.
I hardly ever use AnswerBook and I have ghostscript for postscript viewing.

Yes, there is a BETTER WAY!  Just say "NO" to OW2/3.

- mike

PS - ANOTHER big reason to do this is that LOTS of PD X software WILL NOT 
run under OW2/3.  WHY?  For some reason Sun is distributing an incompatible
version of libXt - THIS REALLY SUCKS!

PPS - Any brave souls want to put the power of the machine back into their
hands I can send them more info on how.
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