HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: David Berger <berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Personal to Andrew Carlisle
Reply-To: berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:22:21 GMT

Sorry to waste everyones bandwidth.  But I got a package today
from Andrew Carlsile.  Andrew, I've lost both your email address
and the list of tapes you wanted.  Please respond to me in email...

				Thanks,	
					David
From: whitte@DPW.COM (Edward B. Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: HELP, DID I Miss the East Coast mailorder
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:24:12 GMT
Reply-To: whitte@DPW.COM
Organization: The Internet

Hey, can someone email me the info about the Giants and Albany dates, seems
I may have missed the mailorder in the early part of this week.  PLEASSSE.

Ted Whittemore

===========================================================================
Ted B. Whittemore  | none of the above opinions |  "Reach for the sun
whitte@dpw.com  or | are mine. I borrowed them  |   Catch hold of the
whitte@dpw.nyu.edu | from others. Sue them,     |          moon,
		   | not me.                    |  They're both too
 GO RANGERS!!!!!   |   and certainly not DPW!   |  heavy,
		   |                            |  But what can you Do?"
		   |                            |  R. Hunter & J. Garcia
===========================================================================
U.S. Mail address to send correspondence/tapes/etc... to:

Ted B. Whittemore, c/o Davis Polk & Wardwell, One Chase Manhattan
Plaza, New York, New York, 10005-1401.   (212) 874-0424  [home #]
===========================================================================
From: whitte@DPW.COM (Edward B. Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: HELP, DID I Miss the East Coast mailorder
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:49:16 GMT
Reply-To: whitte@DPW.COM
Organization: The Internet

Hey, can someone email me the info about the Giants and Albany dates, seems
I may have missed the mailorder in the early part of this week.  PLEASSSE.

Ted Whittemore

===========================================================================
Ted B. Whittemore  | none of the above opinions |  "Reach for the sun
whitte@dpw.com  or | are mine. I borrowed them  |   Catch hold of the
whitte@dpw.nyu.edu | from others. Sue them,     |          moon,
		   | not me.                    |  They're both too
 GO RANGERS!!!!!   |   and certainly not DPW!   |  heavy,
		   |                            |  But what can you Do?"
		   |                            |  R. Hunter & J. Garcia
===========================================================================
U.S. Mail address to send correspondence/tapes/etc... to:

Ted B. Whittemore, c/o Davis Polk & Wardwell, One Chase Manhattan
Plaza, New York, New York, 10005-1401.   (212) 874-0424  [home #]
===========================================================================
From: burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Burnett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Triple grovel
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:14:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Apr7.181520.6900@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood) writes:

> Lee Stanley asks...
> >Has Pretty Peggy-O ever been on a commercially available recording?
> 
> Although Jerry calls it "Fennario", "Pretty Peggy-O" has never 
> appeared on any Dead product, but there are versions found on
> Bob Dylan's 1961 self-titled debut and Simon & Garfunkel's 
> WEDNESDAY MORNING 3 A.M.


I haven't really researched it, but there are quite likely literally
hundreds of versions out there, since it's an English/American
folksong (that is, it comes from Britain, but also has been
transmitted through American folk channels) just about as old as
the hills of Fennario themselves :-)

My first exposure to it was in a version by the Southern Californian
folksinger Sam Hinton sometime during the '60s or early '70s.  In
fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was Jerry's source as well,
since the Dead's version is very similar both melodically & lyrically.

It's always been one of my very favorite folksongs, & the first time
I ever heard the Dead do it was one of those perfect moments of
absolute bliss & appropriateness that keeps us all going back.

--Gary B.
-- 
Gary Burnett                            burnett@elbereth.rutgers.edu 
130 Columbia Street                      gburnett@zodiac.rutgers.edu   
Highland Park, NJ  08904                          jera@well.sf.ca.us

"Things then did not delay in turning curious."  --Thomas Pynchon  
 
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From: Slabicky <iws@lionel.ssd.ray.com>
Subject: Mountains Of The Moon boot
Reply-To: iws@lionel.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 20:49:37 GMT

	
	From: wuly@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
	Subject: "Mts ofthe Moon" bootleg info needed..
	Date: 31 Mar 92 18:47:54 GMT
	
	Hello folks-
	I just taped a really cool studio session bootleg called "Mountains
	of the Moon" (the original sounds like it was on vinyl), but I'm
	a little skeptical of the dates listed on the tape case. I was
	wondering if anyone could make sense of these and/or verify the dates...

	        As the info appears on the case...

	St. Stephen (with cello) =>
	the Eleven (with bagpipes)
	Born Cross-Eyed (11-14-67)
	Dupree's Diamond Blues
	Barbed Wire Whipping Party
	Cosmic Charlie
	Caution (11-3-65)
	Doin' That Rag
	China Cat
	Dark Star (instrumental) (11-14-67)
	Mountains of the Moon
	
	So what's going on here? Doe sthis make sense? Or did the dingbat I
	got the tape from just copy the info wrong? Any light would be
	appreciated...

The dates are for real, or pretty close to reality... the Caution is
from the Warlocks' demo record (which is worth getting, especially
for Phil doing vocals on Gordon Lightfoot's "In The Early Morning
Rain" and Pigpen's great harmonica solo during Caution :-) ).  The
Dark Star/Born Crossed Eyed are either the singles or rough mixes of
the singles - I haven't determined which yet...  The rest of the
material is outtakes from Aoxomoxoa.  There is another tape around
which is also Aoxomoxoa outtakes, but slightly different verisons. 
Btw, for all the Bolos, the correct pronunciation of "Aoxomoxoa" is
From: hessong@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Brian Hessong)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: OLIN signs Grateful Deal
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:33:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44613
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr9.064656.19011@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> oconnors@jupitr.enet.dec.com writes:
>
> 
> A ski rep from the "OLIN SKI Co." told a friend of mine that the
>Dead signed a deal with "OLIN", next year they are going to have
>a tie-dye ski with stealies on them....
>
I want to know how do they fold those darned skis tight enough to get
the patterns? I've been trying for years. Must have the wrong skis!

Brian
From: wpc@po.CWRU.Edu (William P. Claspy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: get ready, get set...
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:56:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.135650.6073
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


to your marks.
get ready.


get set.




MAIL!

:-) :-) :-)

Bill
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Internet- wpc@po.cwru.edu
MaBellnet- (216) 368-3595
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead,rec.music.misc
From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Subject: Re: 5th semi-biannual Tied House Shoreline Net.Gathering
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 19:29:42 GMT

jupiter2@netcom.com (Hal Broome) writes:

> 
> . . . will be on the traditional Saturday afternoon, this time
> on the first day of the three-day run--May 23rd.  People will
> probably wander in all afternoon, Bill Weismann and Bongo might
> even play guitars, and rumors that Neil, Phil, Hornsby, Paul,
> and, of course, Grace, will sit in on the jam session are dubious
> at best:  however, Jerry emailed from his new Well account to say
> that he would stop by in his silver beamer and buy the beer 8').
> 
> hal
> send email for directions . . . two Hot Tuna show reviews, coming up!


hey Hal...you forgot to say  "NOT!!!!!!!"  Gullible people like me
might really expect a free beer on Jerry.  So whats the latest infor
on this book thing, anyway?
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: abzcast@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Denise Castleton)
Subject: Re: Mail order vs. Phone Order
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:56:26 GMT

One major advantage of Mail Order over Phone Order is
that you support the Grateful Dead Ticket office, and
thus the whole scene, rather than TicketBastard.

Another is that you generally get better seats, and
sooner, than by phone order.

Mail order tix are usually pretty to look at, too.
From: max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Hornsby *RUMOR*
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:30:43 GMT
Organization: /home/max/.organization


In article <1992Apr7.114124.25453@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> "Edward S. Zuckerman" (AED-PD) <ezucker@pica.army.mil> writes:

   RUMOR ALERT:

   My friend called me last night with the message that "Bruce Hornsby has
   officially left the Grateful Dead..."

   I know of no other details.  This is simply a RUMOR that's currently bubbling 
   up through the RUMOR mill, the origins of which are unknown.   

				  EDDIE


Well, for anyone who may be interested, here's what I know:

I spoke to a friend before the third Philly show who's been doing some
work for the dead for the last year or so and who had hung out with
Hornsby the night before.  My friend was told by someone else in the
organization that on the way to the second Philly show,  Hornsby told
the band that he'd listened to some tapes of shows without himself, that
he felt he was holding back Vince's growth, and that he'd be leaving
after the tour.  My friend then confirmed this with Bruce later that
night.  Apparently, Jerry was _pissed_, and that's part of the reason
why there were only 4 Jerry tunes all night for that second show, among
other things.

Anyway, your mileage may vary on this, but it seems very credible to
me...

On a personal note, I will say that I hope Bruce will sit in on a
somewhat regular basis, though not nearly as much as he has.  I think
he's great, and really enjoyed him in Philly this year, but I also think
Vince's time has come, and I'm psyched to see where he'll go.  Anyway,
flame me at will...

Max

------------------------------- ----<-@ -------------------------------
Max Minkoff                                  Believe it if you need it,
max@hitl.washington.edu                If you don't, just pass it on...
Human Interface Technology Lab                      
University of Washington - Seattle, WA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Subject: Re: Ugly Rumor-mongerers
Reply-To: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 12:04:58 GMT


In a previous article, MAH76X@ROHVM1.BITNET () says:

.....Numerous humorous p..s's deleted.........

>Ppppppppps. Is it acceptable to go to a show ticketless?
>
>Pppppppppps. Is it ok to post Roomers to the net?  (oops, I've found myself
>             in a big circle, haven't I? ;-) ;-) ;-)

Hey Joe,
	You forgot one.

Pppppppppppps. Is it OK to put conditions on your extra tickets? 

;->
Rich
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*   BG377@cleveland.freenet.edu   others plumber's wives.       *
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From: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: kids and the ban
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:00:38 GMT
Reply-To: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)

In article <1992Apr8.143523.23416@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>  
BSNICH01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu (Barry S. Nichols) writes:
[description of the poster very politely asking that a mother take her noisy  
baby away from a low volume performance of monks] 
> They went on about it for the last 20 mins of the intermission. HOW
> COULD I HAVE BEEN SO UNTHINKINGLY RUDE! I should have realized that the  
rights
> of people to enjoy a performance ARE ALWAYS superceeded by an irresponsible
> parent with a wailing child.

And since you just ended the story, I assume that you just left it at the note.  

Personally, if I had given that note and then subsequently overheard what you  
did, I would probably have been annoyed enough to attempt to point out to this  
woman how RUDE she was being by having that noisy baby there.

I mean, if I brought a portable radio to the show and then listed to a baseball  
game at high volume, and then acted rudely when asked to turn it off or take it  
away (I admit it's not quite the same thing.  You can't turn off a baby), I  
wouldn't be surprised if I got kicked out of the theatre.

I would hope the same thing would happen to this woman if she and her baby  
persisted.  What ever happened to babysitters?
--
                             E-Mail (NeXTmail accepted): Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com
                    "Character is what you are in the dark." -Buckaroo Banzai
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men." -Willy Wonka
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: wwilliam@dvorak.amd.com (Wade Williams)
Subject: Re: ice cream Dead Sighting
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:20:01 GMT

In article <sdt7L5y00VozI1Klss@andrew.cmu.edu> lp1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Laura Rose Palanker) writes:
>Ben and Jerry's out of Vermont, I think, have been marketing a wonderful
>Cherry Garcia flavor for a while now. (as well as a zillion other
>wonderful flavors...) I don't think you all get it out in the midwest
>though - we in Pittsburgh don't....
>FWIW,
>laura

Speak for yourself, we got 'em all here in Austin :) :) :)  That
Rainforest Crunch and Chunky Monkey are excellent too!!!

Wade
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: combine@wam.umd.edu (Kevin Chen)
Subject: Re: Rumor Flamers - political correctness.
Keywords: what a load of crap.
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:38:40 GMT

prr40@pswd.amdahl.com (Phil Roseberry) writes:
> 
>   It's a sure sign that the scene is getting on in years. Now we have 
> hoards of "politically correct" (tm) Deadheads (tm) who feel the
> need to define what rec.music.gdead (and the dead scene, in general)
> *should* look like. Blech! "Question Authority", but not *their*
> authority to tell you how to think, what to say, how to act, etc...
> 
> Authoritarian Deadheads. Now I've seen everything.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting we should be denied our freedom of
speech.  It is a person's right to post their concerns for the welfare of
Jerry or whomever.  But it is also the right of others to express their
opinion to leave the boyz's personal lives just that, personal.  

Yeah, I have to agree, "politcal correctness" has gotten out of hand in
some respects, but this isn't an issue of being PC (tm).  Its an issue
of respecting the privacy of others.  Allowing them to live their lives
without having to worry what everyone thinks.  Sure, Jerry will probably never
read posts in r.m.gd or d-f, but he might.  Just because the boyz are "Gods"
to some of their fans, doesn't mean they are immune to our words.  Look at
the recent issue over Arthur Ashe.  The man's personal life is devasted by the
media.  Allegations of extramarital affairs, homosexual affairs.  He got AIDs
through surgery!  We do have a voice and what we say has some sort of impact
on someone.  

So post your articles on ticketless heads, summer breakouts, rumors, etc...,
but just think about what you write, and be prepared to stand behind it.
-- 
  Each day is a drive through history.  *     Kevin Chen              
                                        *     combine@wam.umd.edu    
              -Jim Morrison             *     University of Maryland
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: DARK FART <JYODER@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re:'Old' Tape Trees
Reply-To: JYODER@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:34:50 GMT

I think that 'Old' Tape Trees would be a good Idea.  The Capitol Center 78'
show seems to be a roaring success.  The only problem is getting people to run
the trees becuase it seems like such a hassle.  And of course getting excellent
boards of old shows(which IMHO seems easier than getting good boards of todays
shows).  I would like to see a some 'REALLY OLD' Tape Trees.  Lets spread the
wealth guys.  Some Really nice 68-73 Shows would be nice.  I can supply seads
for but a few shows.  But due to my inexperience in Trees and My 'o.k.' dubbing
deck i am not the person to run one.  
Lets have some suggestions from people out there on Rare Nice Tapes 
And maybe we can get something rolling.  
(especially those heads with a billion shows.  You must have something we all
want! )

						


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Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 16:13:36 -0400 
From: Kirsten Guss <kg1k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: #tix/show question

Hi folks,
I am yet another mail order novice, and just wanted to double-check
something before I send in my order for the Starlake shows.  The limit
is 4 tickets per show according to the post about the hotline message...
that means I can order up to 4 for EACH NIGHT, right?  For a max total
of 8 tickets in the order?  I am almost positive this is right, but I am
being really careful/paranoid.  Hey, I already screwed up my tax return
(a 1040EZ no less - don't forget to check either the yes or no box!) and
I'm worried about screwing up something REALLY important!

Thanks in advance!
Kirsten

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jannette Pazer <ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: Allman Bros song titles
Reply-To: ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:18:59 GMT

Hi, I need some help here with Allman Bros. song titles.
I'm labelling some bootlegs I got, and I don't know the official titles,
and I would like to be accurate.  Please email me if you know the real 
names, based on these lyrics from the refrains.

1) Goin' to Be Rainin' Outdoors -OR- Come On In My Kitchen

2) Somebody's calling your name, Somebody's waiting for you.
Love is all that remains the same, that what it's all coming to?

3) hand me down my walking cane, I found me another woman, I ain't your man.

These were all performed live and acoustic at the Lone Star Roadhouse 3/30/92.
Sorry if the lyrics aren't accurate either, just tried to figure them out
by listening.  Thanks.

Jannette

-- 
Jannette Wing Pazer 		* 	IBM Kingston - "tangled up in Blue"
		No direct internet access, only uunet. 
uunet:
   uunet!panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette
internet:
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: hbpeltz@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Harry Peltz)
Subject: GEORGE LOWNES! READ PLEASE!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 13:44:51 EDT


>Harry,
>I can't reach you via email (concerning the 09-24-91 tree)
>Please email me at glownes@luke.decnet.ge.com
>Thanks, George

George,
mail to you bounces too!I've tried to bounce it off of uvaarpa.virginia.edu
but it doesn't work. Can you send mail to a netter that we both know?

Harry

--
Harry Peltz                          "Been Here So Long,
Internet:hbpeltz@rodan.acs.syr.edu    Been Got to Calling It Home"
    -or-:hbpeltz@mailbox.syr.edu      		  -Robert Hunter
Rest In Peace Uncle Bobo                  
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Joel Schostok Dudas <dudasj@rpi.edu>
Subject: Allmans Shoreline tape
Reply-To: dudasj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:43:13 GMT

Hey Now!
  Anyone know the date of that '91 Shoreline tree set up a
little while back?  I just got the tapes and would like
to know the exact date.

   Thanks,
   Joe D.
dudasj@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: LANDO <DBECHTOL@pearl.tufts.edu>
Subject: 3-3-92 Allmans DAT seed info
Reply-To: DBECHTOL@pearl.tufts.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:25:25 GMT

The 3-3-92 Allman Brothers Concert was played at the Orpheum in Boston. 
This hall is easily reachable by the subway and is similar to, though not
as nice as the Beacon Theater in New York. The show was set for 8:00.
The audience was notified that the Allman Brothers would be taping this and
some other shows on the tour for a new live Album. (Incidentally, I heard
an interview in New York where the Bass player said he had heard some tracks
from the like album including DREAMS and they sounded great.

	The show was recorded by Sean Kennedy on B+K 4011's -->Neuman PS ->
Panasonic Sv-255. The mikes were positioned 110 degrees ORTF (Mics @110
degrees included angle, 17 cm spacing between capsules). The mic stand was
6'5" and was placed in orchestra, row D 205 (17th row center). 
	Three people taped the show, and this recording sounded the best out
of the two I listened to.

Many thanks to Sean for his help and knowledge.

May your skies be blue............................

-Lando
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Elliot Sowadsky <daver!nexgen!elliot@unix.sri.com>
Subject: Looking for Sat Vegas tix
Reply-To: daver!nexgen!elliot@unix.sri.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:39:27 GMT

"Reply" might not work so try one of the below.

Thanx

Worldnet: (408)435-1137 x259 (Voicemail)
          (408)435-0202 x259 (Humanmail)
          (415)968-3985
Arpanet: daver!nexgen!elliot@sun.com
	 nexgen!elliot@oliveb.olivetti.com
	 oliveb!nexgen!elliot@sun.com
	 elliot@nexgen.uucp  
UUCP: {sun!,ames!,<none>}{oliveb,daver}!nexgen!elliot
UUCP: When it absolutely has to get lost overnight
From: darkstar@toz.buffalo.ny.us (peter leone)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Screwed up mail order - help?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:36:30 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)838-0220

sjw_nc@caen.engin.umich.edu (Scott J Wilderman) writes:

> If one were to accidently (stupidly/imbecilely/moronically is 
> more appropriate in our case) send GTDS a postal order that
> included $6.75 instead of $6.25 for the registered mail fee,
> would the wonderful, kind people at GDTS consider it an oversight
> and gladly fill the order, or would they reject such a request
> out of hand?
> 
> Any insights would be appreciated.
> 
> -scott

You won't get tickets. I made the mistake of sending too much money( I 
counted the reg. mail fee twice) I got shut down. I called mail order 
problems and they told me that they would fix it, but if they have to 
change your order, they put it on the bottom of the list, so you have 
almost no chance of getting tickets.
                                Peace,
                                        Peter Leone

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