From: rstevew@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Richard Steven Walz)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Learning to Accept One's Self
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 14:44:27 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <43070@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (THE UNFORGIVEN) writes:
>In article <1992Mar30.052100.27457@cs.rose-hulman.edu> zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>>>Last week, I was home for spring break and horified my beloved parents
>>>about the state of dating for a youngconsideratemale in today's world
>>>where many single people are on the prowl for what they can get from the
>>>other person.  They found it hard to believe that getting a date was
>>>easy, but getting (or going for) a repeat date was, in most cases a
>>>rarity.  Do others out there have this problem more often than not.
>
>Yes, many, many males like you have this problem. Nobody knows why; perhaps
>women have changed and they really like the idea of dating guys that treat 
>them like crap. Who knows??????
>
>Several of my friends and I have started an organization here at Purdue 
>called NGA (Nice Guys Anonymous). The purpose of this group is to find
>ways to make ourselves the jerks women these days want us to be. We are 
>only starting out, but just sharing our experiences with the opposite sex
>is enough to at least make us realize that we are not alone. 
>
>We have several theories as to why the nice guy can't have a relationship
>in today's world. The one with the most credence is the "mothering theory".
>This is the theory which states that if a woman can change a man, i.e. make
>a guy who is normally a jerk actually give a crap about her, than in her 
>mind she has accomplished something great. In other words, going out with 
>jerks is a challenge to most women. Since nice guys are already "tamed", 
>so to speak, there is no challenge; thus there will be no relationship. 
>
>My advice, coming from many, many failed romances, don't be as nice to 
>women as you think you should be. I am "friends" with many females, and I 
>am finding that most of them call their mates much more than the guys call
>them; they never get flowers, candy, etc. Make them earn your attention, 
>and they seem to like it. 
>
>I would STRONGLY recommend you get a copy of the book _I_Worship_The_Very_
>Dirt_She_Treats_Me_Like__:__The_story_of_a_warm_caring_guy_in_a_society_
>of_cold_calculating_women_. Authors are Josh Raphaelson and Jay Silverstein. 
>It can be found in the humor section of most book stores. Many hours of 
>entertainment in this book. It's only $7.95, and believe me, you will love
>it. 
>
>From one nicecaringguy to another. 
>

It's almost like the old line about men:
      "Sure I want to meet a nice girl and settle down someday."
      "But for sex who wants a "nice" girl?"

It's as though females these days are attracted to poison and the
stuff who won't hurt them is being saved for later when they've
convinced themselves they are real women because they've finally been
hurt alot. People are weird, by my reckoning. It looks to me that
the young want to bang their heads against walls for awhile just
because they think it'll feel good when they stop.   - Steve Walz
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