HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ott@ansoft.com (nancy ott)
Subject: Re: ZARDOZ
Keywords: ZARDOZ
Organization: Ansoft Corp. Pittsburgh
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:35:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.072124.23692@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE> k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai) writes:
>In article <7537@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> fleurant@hri.com (P.Fleurant) writes:
>>Zardoz, written, directed and produced by J.Boorman is out 
>>on tape. (CBS video)

(stuff deleted)

>>IMHO this movie is still way ahead of its time and no other SF film
>>has since come close to its satire, comedy, and drama.
>>
>Nor have they managed to match it's silliness, plot mis-handling,
>bad direction, or lapses in logic.
>
>It's still an awful lot of fun to watch. Can't beat Sean Connery 
>running around with a pony-tail while wearing a red diaper!

Or the giant floating head and the gratuitous mass meditation scenes.
(My personal favorites)

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From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
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Subject: Re: Higlander III
Date: 28 Dec 1992 22:27:43 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Dec28.141432.1@hirama.hiram.edu> bakerjd@hirama.hiram.edu
writes:
>
>	Does anyone know what the plot for Highlander III is 
>reputed to be????? Thanks! :-)

Some guys who need to have their hair groomed will fight with swords in places
where the concrete floor is wet and the air is full of water vapor.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
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Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:47:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: seawasp@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu

In article <6252@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>From article <962@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, by seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp):
>> 	"YOU'RE Terminated, sucker!" -- Sarah Connor, T1
>
>The most inane line of the whole film.  Sounds totally artificial.

	Different tastes, I guess. She said precisely what *I* would have
said in that instance. I mean, think about it. This little bugger has
been chasing you for god knows how long, it won't let go, it won't stop,
and FINALLY you have it! I'd say SOMETHING nasty to it as I squashed it, 
that's for sure.

					Sea Wasp
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Subject: Robocop 3?
From: white@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Kevin S. White)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:33:43 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept

  Does anyone know what happened to Robocop 3?  It was supposed to be out
early last summer, then late summer, and now ???  My hunch is that it really
sucked, but I haven't heard of it appearing straight-to-video.  Does anyone
know the story?

Kevin
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: "moon 44" (was re: anothe
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:43:14 EST

Howdy Markus!

Thanks for the reply. BTW, if you haven't seen such a huge bunch of
macho idiots in one place, you obviously did not attend the same schools
as I did - even though it's a very vague generalization... (bg)

As for those bodies in vacuum - I keep getting the answer from EVERYBODY
that such experiments WERE done, & the results were extensively covered
in discussions all over the nets; only problem is, NOBODY seems to be
able to give a detailed answer to my question (it doesn't apply to you,
as you obviously didn't read these discussions). I've browsed through a
number of "space", "science", etc conferences, made a lot of text
search, but so far there's been nothing.

So anybody reading this, could you PLEASE tell me what happens to the
human body in sudden vacuum?

Markus, again thanks, & wish you a Very Happy New Year

Robert
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From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Star Trek sequel?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 23:03:08 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

DCHANG@uhccmvs.BITNET (Doreen Chang) writes:

> 2.12.22.92.16.02.HST.
> 
> I was casually kicked back on the living room couch when an ad flashed across
> Fox, something about a Star Trek movie coming out this January.  This was the
> first (and last) I'd heard about this?  Has anyone heard any details?  Can
> anyone confirm or deny this possibility?  Is this the rumored attempt to brin
> the two crews together finally on celluloid?  Will Spock attend?  I'm curious
> I'd rather be grateful for info.
>                                                           dc
> P.S.  Mele Kalikimaka e ka Hauoli Makahiki Hou

Are you sure it wasn't just an ad for DS9?


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From: shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham)
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Subject: Re: "Moon 44" (was Re:  Another Movie to ID
Date: 24 Dec 92 19:32:20 GMT
Distribution: tor
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Dec24.173353.15550@psych.toronto.edu> gswan@psych.toronto.edu (George Swan) writes:
>In article <BznA2G.5Jz@ais.org>, ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
>> I have no idea if this movie was ever released in the US, but 
>> I'd like to find it on video if possible.  The movie starred 
>> Michael Pare (I think Malcom Mcdowell was in it as well) and 
>> was based on some prison planet where Pare went undercover 
>> or something like that...  My interest is due to the fact that
>> I did  some voice-over work for the film and would like to see 
>> how it finally came out (my hopes aren't too high ;).  
>
>I saw this film at a theatre, based on a review John Harkness did for
>NOW magazine.  (NOW is a free entertainment weekly distributed in
>Toronto, so I have restricted the distribution of this article to
>"tor".) Harkness gave it very high praise.  He compared it favourably
>to "Terminator", "Aliens" and "Predator".
>
>It was highly cliche-ridden, predictable, and completely brimming with
>logical and technical flaws.
>
>I'll never trust Harkness's reviews again.


The movie has been playing (TOO MANY *&^% TIMES) on premium cable channels
here in the US. I saw it on The Movie Channel. (It is still making the rounds
on the cables).

I agree with all of George's criticism of this movie. It is really BAD.
This is unfortunate. The idea of hardened criminals, guided by nerd hackers
defending a planet COULD have made a great movie. But as it was, there where
helicopter (yes! helicopter) "training" flight scenes and violence  (such as
gay rape) scenes and very little else.


BTW, the "tor" distribution didn't seem to keep me off the list. I am in
Massachusets!


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From: jwells@netcom.com (Court Jester)
Subject: Re: Star Trek sequel?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:00:52 GMT

DCHANG@uhccmvs.BITNET (Doreen Chang) writes:

>I was casually kicked back on the living room couch when an ad flashed across
>Fox, something about a Star Trek movie coming out this January.  This was the
>first (and last) I'd heard about this?  Has anyone heard any details?  Can
>anyone confirm or deny this possibility?  Is this the rumored attempt to bring
>the two crews together finally on celluloid?  Will Spock attend?  I'm curious;
>I'd rather be grateful for info.

I'd be willing to bet what you actually saw was the brief promo for the
new series, Deep Space Nine. It premiers in January, and a lot of the
stations that will carry it happen to be Fox affiliates. (But not all,
of course.)

If (when) another movie is made, you will definitely hear about it all
over the place, and not just a small commercial only on t.v. =)

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From: chrstie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (William John M. Christie)
Subject: Re: moontrap
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: global
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 06:51:54 GMT

I just thought I'd answer one of your quandries re:  bullets working in a
vacuum.  The reason modern firearms are such an improvement over the old
black powder guns is:

1)  The brass casing is (if done properly) effectively sealed, making them
waterproof and airtight.  The point?  Well.....
2)  Unless you load a shell to full capacity there will be some air
trapped in there that will allow combustion.  But even then that's a moot
point because:
3)  Modern smokeless powders have their own oxidant.  Such that even at
the temperature of vacuum (~-270 C) the primer should create enough heat
to continue the reaction.  And I wouldn't be worried about the barrel
(even without that one earth atmosphere surrounding it) as internal pressures
are significantly higher so the barrel is built to withstand that
much stress.

Of course point number 3 is really the only one that counts.  Gee, now
that I've heard how bad it is I'll really have to see this now.


Will Christie
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From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: b movies
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:59:08 EST

Since we were talking about B movies...

Has anybody ever seen STARSHIP (or was it called Spaceship) ?
You know, the one where the alien soldiers have silver painted faces,
wear hockey helmets & carry plastic M16s...

I can tell you, & trust my words, it's the ULTIMATE B movie experience,
an instant classic! The backside of the tape's cover declared Spaceship
"the successor of SW" or something, with "incredible special f/x" etc.

Would anybody be kind enough to give me some info about where the movie
was shot, who were the crew, producers, etc? I saw it some three years
ago, but the shock is still vivid in my memory, & since I got hold of a
few pounds of spare C-14, I'd like to show my gratitude...

Take care

Robert
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From: guru@camelot.bradley.edu (Jerry Whelan)
Subject: Re: Rachel Ward was a *fabricant*...??? :-)
Organization: The Smelly Ditch
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 18:16:21 GMT

In article <STEINARB.93Jan1144313@tindved.idt.unit.no> steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:
-} In the January 1993 issue of Byte, on page 334 in the column "Stop
-} Bit", titled "Cinema By Computer" Roger Ebert manages to say (when
-} talking about a computer animated sequence he has seen on a film
-} festival), I quote:
-}  "...When we were told the truth, I felt a little like Harrison Ford
-}   when he discovers that Rachel Ward is a fabricant." End quote.

	Yeah, Ebert is a droid.  Anyone know his c$erve address so that
we can send him stink mail telling him how clueless he really is?

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From: tom@cithara.login.qc.ca (Tom Parkinson)
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Subject: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Date: 28 Dec 92 09:45:44 GMT
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AKT>Like the subject indicates, what are your favorite one-liners or quotes fro
   >sci-fi films?

AKT>I'll start off by naming one:

AKT>"I'm sorry Dave, but I can't do that."  (2001)

From Miller's Crossing -

"They took his hair, Tommy!  Jesus, that's strange..."
                -Leo, commenting on Rug Daniels' murder

Also from Miller's -

"Kids!  You gotta be firm."
                -Casper, after smacking his son

Granted, taken out of context, they don't really make much sense.  But
if you've seen the film, well, need I say more?
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From: alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy)
Subject: Re: Star Trek sequel?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 05:32:07 GMT

In <1992Dec23.202148.25000@u.washington.edu> jmstreck@carson.u.washington.edu (John Streck) writes:

>And personally, I would eat my sock if a new Star Trek movie was released in
>any month but May or June. They may be crap (as I think they are), but
>they are crap specifically aimed at the summer movie crowds. A new Star
>Trek film in January (just when all us kids go back to school)? I don't
>think so.

And where were you last year when Star Trek VI came out?  I know where _I_ was;
Friday, DECEMBER 6th, I was in line for the premier.  Star Trek IV opened
around Thanksgiving (whatever year).  Five _did_ come out in the summer, but
the last two GOOD Trek movies opened for the Christmas crowds.
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From: jmstreck@carson.u.washington.edu (John Streck)
Subject: Re: Star Trek sequel?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:21:48 GMT

alix@iastate.edu (L.A. Melloy) writes:

>Nine, the next Star Trek series.  There HAS been rumors of a Star Trek VII,
>involving the original cast, written by either Nimoy and/or Shatner (can
>any Trekkers/Trekkies help me out with this?), but there would be NO way
>it would be ready by January (maybe of '94!).

And personally, I would eat my sock if a new Star Trek movie was released in
any month but May or June. They may be crap (as I think they are), but
they are crap specifically aimed at the summer movie crowds. A new Star
Trek film in January (just when all us kids go back to school)? I don't
think so.
From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
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Subject: Re:  Favorite Movie One-Liners
Date: 23 Dec 1992 21:25:55 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Distribution: world
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In article <alien.0228@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>In article <962@blue.cis.pitt.edu> seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp) writes:
>>
    ... T2 stuff deleted ...
   
    Really though, I'd have to say my fave one-liner was delivered by Peter
    Venkman (aka Bill Murray) in Ghostbusters:

       "Back off man, I'm a scientist."

    Still sends shivers up my spine!  

    Brad

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From: Jay.Majer@ofa123.fidonet.org
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Subject: Re: Jurassic Park - DNA
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 02 Jan 93  18:47:00

BUF>      Indeed, and as I recal from something I read last year
BUF>      (not JP) A study of blood obtained from mosquetoes (sp?)
BUF>      trapped in resin is actually being taken place. This was]
BUF>      not a joke, or a plug for the movie as I did not mention
BUF>      Micheal Crichton or Jurassic Park at all.

BUF>      Can Anyone verify this?

JURASSIC PARK >is< based on actual research being done. Just recently, the
people doing the research received a grant from the Smithsonian.

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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: "moon 44" (was re: anothe
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:39:19 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <199228.2756.2648@dosgate>, by robert.winkler@canrem.com (robert winkler):
> I don't say it wasn't cliche-ridden, but so was Alien 3, & they spent 30
> (50?) millions bucks to get the same shit!

Note that I did not include a single word in defense of Alien 3 in my
posting. :-)

> pressure within the helicopter. And they DIDN'T know ahead that the
> their life would depend on the geeks!

It should have been clear after the first flight in those valleys.

> Besides, how many times did you
> meet a macho-idiot who behaved logically when it came to his superior
> male pride? 

Exactly.  I have rarely seen so many extreme macho idiot cases in a
bunch as in Moon 44.  I really think they overdid it.

> Oh, & those CGA graphics - you think that the companies are
> gonna spend more money in the future on equipment supposed to ensure the
> safety of their employees than they do NOW? Think again...

Good argument, but 1) unless technology takes a huge step back, 200
years from now you won't get a screen with that resolution unless it's
in a museum or wristwatch-sized, 2) while the company is not
interested in the personal survival of the pilots, it will certainly
be interested in making them work effectively (after all, their only
reason to be there is to shoot down others), which includes an
acceptable environment for their controllers.
 
> Outland indeed was a much better movie - I drew a paralell only between
> the atmosphere & some visual characteristics. About those CRT terminals
> - haven't you noticed that ALL s/f movies (Alien, SW, etc) operate with
> modems of 300 baud...? I was even thinking about how to reproduce it in
> my machine (386 sx), but don;t really know. Can you help?

Sorry, I can't, especially since I have nothing that will reproduce
the mechanical clatter that usually accompanies these messages (Alien
really is a great example for this).  You'd probably have to use a
teletype to print the stuff out (which takes care of the noise and
slow speed), immediately scan it back in and display it on the screen.
 
> Oh, & what DOES happen to the human body in sudden vacum? I know they
> don't explode, but what do they do?

I don't know if this was ever tried even with laboratory animals, but
in terms of purely mechanical damage, I'd say not much, since the
pressure differential between sea level and vacuum is not that high.
I don't know what a brief exposure to vacuum would do to your lungs
and eyes.  Your eardrums might rupture, and you would certainly get
the bends (divers' sickness, or whatever it's called), which, unless
pressure was quickly restored, would slowly kill you (but of course,
suffocation would be faster).
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From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Jurassic Park - DNA in blood?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:10:11 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Er, not really a problem: mammalian red cells have no nuclei,
true, but reptiles and birds do have nucleiated red cells.
Thus it's highly likely that dinosaurs did too.
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From: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Subject: total recall
Reply-To: "james kewageshig" <james.kewageshig@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:09:17 EST

thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Stephanie M. Clarkson) writes:

SM>Second, I noticed the bit when the Arnie and Sharon are at breakfast,
SM>and the announcement of the World Series game was made...everyone
SM>thought it was a big joke at the time..."The Tokyo Samurais and the
SM>Toronto Blue Jays."  Yeah, right.  The Jays make a World Series?
SM>Sure...

Yep, our Jay's are going to be taken a lot more seriously, although
they just split the team up...

ON a related note about Toronto, I just noticed for the first time
that in episode of Star Trek:TNG where a draconic (?) program infests
the Enterprise and Picard, Data and Worf beam down to the planet,
One of those time gates was looping a picture of Toronto's City Hall!
(Which looks kinda 'Logun's Run'-ish, but is VERY ugly...
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