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From: alien@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Diego Barros)
Subject: Last thoughts on...
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:18:38 GMT

I'm looking for the words to the poem by Dylan from his Bootleg Series
called 'Last thoughts on Woody Guthrie.'

I did not have any Dylan albums, but had always wanted to get some and
the first thing I bought was the Bootleg Series after hearing just this
track. I really enjoy this poem (I call it one anyway! :) ) and have
tried to track it at some FTP sites but no luck.

If anyone has it then could they please send me a copy or point me in
the right direction as to where I can get it?

Thanks in advance...
Cheers... :)

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From: rmura@world.std.com (Ron Mura)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Talkin' Bob Dylan
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:38:44 GMT
Organization: The World

In article <1992Dec16.153850.1896@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Alan Robock <alan@atmos.umd.edu> writes:
> 
> Who's the guy who did "Talkin' Bob Dylan" on his new History album?

Loudon Wainwright III.  When he does it in concert he usually ad libs
some additonal lines.  In one of his October shows at the Borderline
(London), he does an argument between the "new Bob Dylans"
(Prine, Springsteen, Forbert, Wainwright, etc.) that meet 
weekly at Bruce's house for therapy:

     -- My album came out before your album.
     -- OK, but I've met him [Dylan] three times!

At a show a couple of months earlier, he said:

     -- ...and then Bruce goes crazy and calls up Elliott Murphy in Paris.

(Elliott Murphy was another "new Dylan" of the early '70s.  He now
lives in Paris and appeared on stage for one song during Springsteen's
show in Paris last summer.)

In other performances Loudon expands on his forgetfulness
regarding the _Self Portrait_ album.  (At another London show,
while he is saying, "There was one other album...  What
was it?" someone in the audience yells out "_Desire_!")
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- Ron Mura, Boston, Massachusetts              rmura@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: rcj10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Craig Jamieson)
Subject: Re: other versions og GAIBTY
Summary: Froggie?
Keywords: Tom Jerry GAIBTY completists Froggie person parsnips eggs botany
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Distribution: World
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:40:27 GMT

>that I remembered and wasn't on there.  In a Tom and Jerry cartoon,
>Jerry's country-musicain uncle does it on a TV show.  I don't think this

You do not say which GAIBTY song!? This is important for
completists! What was the cartoon title? Date? 

Froggie perhaps?

By the way many felt my help on another GAIBTY song a while 
back was not serious or reverent enough. 

Oh they'll flog the person out of you down there in Bodney Bay

which I thought was

Oh they'll flog the parsnips out of you down there in Botany Bay 

Listening much more carefully I can assure everyone the words
are DEFINITELY:

Oh they'll flog the poached egg out of you down there in Botany Bay 

If you doubt me just listen again. If you need any further help
interpretting Dylan just ask... :-)

Craig Jamieson
University of Cambridge

Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: alien@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Diego Barros)
Subject: Bootleg Series - Volumes 4 to ???
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:24:44 GMT

Has anyone got any info on the new Bootleg Series volumes? I had seen it
listed in the upcoming releases list in the rock-n-roll group and was
wondering if anyone knows what kind of songs would be on there? Any rare
material which was _hard_ to find?

Cheers... :)

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From: roth@feline.cs.wisc.edu (Bill Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Under The Red Sky
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:07:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Dec14.180737.7014
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1g7quiINNq02@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> co273@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stacy Tartar) writes:
>
>I may stand alone, but even as a follow up to the spectacular OH MERCY,
>I think that Under The Red Sky is really good.  Maybe it's an "aquired taste."
>God knows, it ain't always pretty.
>co273@cleveland.freenet.edu

"aquired taste"?! UTRS Has to be the worst album he has ever put out. I dare
anyone to find something as heinously contrived and over-produced
as this album. I hated it when I bought it 2 years ago and I recently
listened to it again, just to give it another chance. IT'S STILL AWFUL.
I hated "Knocked Out and Loaded" when it came out, but I have 
acquired a taste for it. 

I mean, come on. "Wiggle, Wiggle". Need I say more?

Blech.

This has never happened to me before. I hated
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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: Jesse Reynolds <JESLREYN@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Last thoughts
Reply-To: JESLREYN@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:50:00 GMT


The words to Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie and many (if not most) of Dylan's
other works are in an ESSENTIAL book Lyrics, published by Knopf.  All Bob-
Heads should own a copy.

Adios
Jesse Reynolds
jeslreyn@ucs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:03:51 GMT


*****  SIMPLE SURVEY -- PLEASE READ *****

I have seen much talk about Sinead on the net lately, 
and was wondering what the general opinion of Sinead
was.  Please take the 20 seconds it takes to reply to
this question and answer it.  (A simple Y or N will do).
Please use your newsreader's reply option or regular
email to submit votes -- do not post your answer.

Question:
Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
Sinead O'Connor?

If you wish to send detailed replies as to why or why not,
please do, but they are not required.  Thanks in advance!

Jason Boardman
boarjas@elof.iit.edu
From: evans@sun.lclark.edu (Jeremiah Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Dylan/dead
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:59:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Dec11.185956.9618
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


Other covers by the Grateful Dead
Maggies Farm->Everyone takes a verse
Visions of Johanna->Jerry

And The Jerry Garcia Band does
Senior(Tales of Yankee Power)
Simple Twist of Fate(Oh my god!!!)
Tangled Up In Blue
I Shall Be Released

and I don't remember if it is the dead or just jerry who does
Idiot Wind
From: gerkepott@espel.picker.de
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: SCUP
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:09:06 MET
Organization: Picker International GmbH, Espelkamp

Some new boot-CDs

Bob Dylan and the Grateful Dead
Orbiting Uvula
Turtle Records, TR-247
made in Australia

1  The Times They Are A-Changin'
2  Man Of Peace
3  I'll Be Your Baby Tonight
4  John Brown
5  I Want You
6  Ballad Of A Thin Man
7  Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
8  Queen Jane Approximately
9  Chimes Of Freedom
10 All Along The Watchtower
11 Knockin' On Heaven's Door

Foxboro July 4, 1987, incomplete
58 min., excellent sound, hinged pasteboard cover with very nice photos.

--------------------

Bob Dylan
The Warfield
Flashback 09.92.0192
made in Luxembourg

CD1 (66 min.)
1  Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
2  Every Grain Of Sand
3  Union Sundown
4  Just Like A Woman
5  Tangled Up In Blue
6  I'll Be Your Baby Tonight
7  She Belongs To Me
8  Love Minus Zero - No Limit
9  Little Moses
10 The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll
11 Desolation Row
12 Cat's In The Well

CD2 (74 min.)
1  Idiot Wind
2  The Times They Are A-Changin'
3  Highway 61 Revisited
4  Absolutely Sweet Marie
5  Ballad Of A Thin Man
6  Blowin' In The Wind
7  Rainy Day Women # 12 & 35
8  Lenny Bruce
9  Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
10 I Don't Believe You
11 Shelter From The Storm
12 Gates Of Eden

complete show of San Francisco, May 4th, 1992 + some tracks of May 5th
excellent sound quality, poor packaging

Heinrich

Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: akp1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Adam K. Powers)
Subject: Re: Blonde on Blonde CD remastering
Reply-To: akp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:09:42 GMT

acbversp@cs.ruu.nl (Aart Verspuij) writes:

>I have _bob_ on cd and I'm curious wich version I have. Can someone, who knows
>he has the original - longest - version, post the lengths of the songs?

Here are the lengths of the tracks on the new MasterSound gold CD; they are
identical to the times on the current regular CD issue.  On the original CD
_Blonde on Blonde_, I believe that "Sad Eyed Lady" is cut by about 30 sec., and
the CD cover *does* list the shortened time.  Other than actually looking at
the track listings on the cover or listening to the CD, I don't think that
there are any obvious clues on the disc itself as to whether you have the 
shortened version.

Rainy Day Women			 4:33
Pledging My Time		 3:42
Visions of Johanna		 7:27
One of Us Must Know		 4:53
I Want You			 3:06
Memphis Blues Again		 7:04
Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat	 3:50
Just like a Woman		 4:39
You Go Your Way & I'll Go Mine	 3:22
Temporary Like Achilles		 5:03
Absolutely Sweet Marie		 4:46
4th Time Around			 4:26
Obviously 5 Believers		 3:30
Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands	11:19

It would be greatly appreciated if someone could confirm that these are the
LP times as well...
						-Adam K. Powers
						akp1@midway.uchicago.edu

BTW, a friend of mine who hangs out on alt.fan.rush.limbaugh (for some reason)
lurked through r.m.d the other day and was amazed at how *civil* this group
is compared to the talk.* and political alt.* groups...
From: robo@oregon.uoregon.edu (O'Neill, Rob)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:13:44 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: robo.uoregon.edu

In article <1992Dec11.170351.22218@iitmax.iit.edu> boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) writes:


>*****  SIMPLE SURVEY -- PLEASE READ *****

>I have seen much talk about Sinead on the net lately, 
>and was wondering what the general opinion of Sinead
>was.  Please take the 20 seconds it takes to reply to
>this question and answer it.  (A simple Y or N will do).
>Please use your newsreader's reply option or regular
>email to submit votes -- do not post your answer.

>Question:
>Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
>Sinead O'Connor?

>If you wish to send detailed replies as to why or why not,
>please do, but they are not required.  Thanks in advance!

>Jason Boardman
>boarjas@elof.iit.edu
I am somewhat ambivalent; I think her treatment by the audience at the 
Tribute show was disgusting and disgraceful.  As Lou Reed later said, one 
would think a Dylan audience especially would be respectful of protest 
music.  On the other hand, some of her comments in her recent Rolling Stone 
interview re: Mike Tyson, women, rape, etc, were pretty sickening.  I love 
lots of her music, but I really think she has some screwed up personal ideas 
and/or personality traits and beliefs...
From: apm272v@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: query about a lyric
Date: 14 Dec 92 09:30:37 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

urm, real new to this group.

i'm trying to trace a dylan lyric, and i was wondering if any of you kind
net-folk could help :-)

it goes,
"i wish i was on some australian mountain range"

someone chalenged me to provide song, album and date.

hoping this ain't one of my dumber questions.

hunter
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: kloeck@research.nj.nec.com (Erwin Klock)
Subject: Re: Mississippi John Hurt
Originator: kloeck@frege
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:09:35 GMT

In article <92349.203355REW4@psuvm.psu.edu> Ross Whitwam <REW4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>13 songs Mississippi John Hurt recorded in 1928 (including
>the original version of "Avalon Blues" which led to his
>rediscovery) are available on a CD from Yazoo records
>titled _Mississippi John Hurt 1928 Sessions_ .

I have the CD and I must advise against it. The sound is so bad
that I cannot bring myself to listen to it despite the exellent
material that it contains. I found the same to be true of many
Yazoo CDs, exellent material in abysmal sound quality, as in scratched
beyond recognizability. I don't buy their stuff anymore although
it is often tempting from the titles they put out.

Erwin
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Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: acbversp@cs.ruu.nl (Aart Verspuij)
Subject: Re: Blonde on Blonde CD remastering
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:40:16 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <Bz9u1B.MBE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu (dave) writes:

>In article <1992Dec14.205302.4057@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu writes:
>>RE: Blonde On Blonde, why is the CD of Blonde On Blonde not as highly regarded
>>by some people?  The author of Dylan: Behind The Shades says that the vinyl
>>is preferable to the CD for this record.  Why is this?  I have the CD, and I
>>don't notice anyything _wrong_ per se, but someone with the vinyl version may
>>know something I don't here.  Is it the mix?  The mastering?  What?  
>
>the original pressings of the cd contained abreviated versions of a
>couple songs ("sad-eyed lady of the lowlands" and "just like a woman,"
>i believe) in order for the entire album to fit onto one disc.  as
>cd technology advanced, and more info was able to be stored on a disc,
>_bob_ was released, not once, but TWICE, each time getting a little
>longer.  the final version contains the entire album, without the
>early fades.  i would assume the new gold disc is the complete version.
>
>-- 
>( dave prokopy - prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu or prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu    )
>( "this is my mistake - let me make it good."                               )
>(  -r.e.m., "world leader pretend"

I have _bob_ on cd and I'm curious wich version I have. Can someone, who knows
he has the original - longest - version, post the lengths of the songs?

Thanks,

Aart
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Dylan at a U2 show doing his own stuff?
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:35:49 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 I've got a U2 bootleg (The Total Thing) which is an Inside Broadcast Zoo TV
show, as well as featuring some additional tracks from a show at which
Dylan shows up while they're doing I shall B Released, and then Knockin'
on Heaven's Door. Bono takes a shot at Reagan, so that dates the show
somewhat.

 Does anyone know where, when, and any more about what happened?

Steve
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From: akp1@quads.uchicago.edu (Adam K. Powers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Mississippi John Hurt
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:31:54 GMT
Reply-To: akp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

kloeck@research.nj.nec.com (Erwin Klock) writes:

>In article <92349.203355REW4@psuvm.psu.edu> Ross Whitwam <REW4@psuvm.psu.edu> 
>writes:
>>13 songs Mississippi John Hurt recorded in 1928 (including
>>the original version of "Avalon Blues" which led to his
>>rediscovery) are available on a CD from Yazoo records
>>titled _Mississippi John Hurt 1928 Sessions_ .
>
>I have the CD and I must advise against it. The sound is so bad
>that I cannot bring myself to listen to it despite the exellent
>material that it contains. I found the same to be true of many
>Yazoo CDs, exellent material in abysmal sound quality, as in scratched
>beyond recognizability. I don't buy their stuff anymore although
>it is often tempting from the titles they put out.

Over the past two years I've bought a fair number of CD-reissues of old blues
78's - yes, the sound quality is far below that of contemporary recordings, but
I've accepted that as a simple fact.  Ultimately, I'd rather hear great music
recorded poorly than to never hear it at all.  1920's blues artists were
usually recorded by traveling 'field' recording teams sent out by the record
companies to bring back good music.  Many of these direct-to-acetate recordings
were not well-recorded in the first place - 65 years later, most of the old
recording companies are gone, the acetates destroyed, and only a few, rare 78's
of many artists remain.  Before you dismiss the recordings on the basis of
bad sound reproduction, consider the technology present at the time -  the
artist sang into an amplification horn that was directly attatched to the
recording apparatus, and controllled what we would now call the 'mix' by
raising his guitar up to the horn for a breakout or solo, and having to cut
longer songs in half to fit the roughly 3 1/2 minute time limit for the 78 rpm
record.  Magnetic tapes weren't used widely until the 1940's, and more than
two takes to cut a song were rarely granted.  (After all, the only reason that
many black artists were recorded at all was that blues records could be
recorded with a minimum of effort by the record company, and then would sell
pretty well in stores.  Royalties and contracts were rarely an issue, since 
the company only had to offer enough cash to keep the bluesman going until
the next recording team came through town, often recording the same artists
under different pseudonyms.)  The same problem exists with bootlegs - We'd all 
love to hear terrific PA tapes of the best shows and sessions, but oftentimes
they just don't exist!  It's a shame that I can't go out and buy a Blind Lemon
Jefferson recording that has the same sound quality as the latest Paula Abdul
dance-remix, but I still would rather spend my money on the former instead of
the latter.  It all comes down to the music.

						-Adam K. Powers
						akp1@midway.uchicago.edu
From: ez006050@chip.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: PBS and Michelle Shocked
Date: 16 Dec 92 05:15:32 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: ez006050@chip.ucdavis.edu

Haven't had access to the newsgroup recentlso excuse me if this has been
asked before but does anyone know anything about the PBS broadcast of the
Tribute?  I've read that it will include performances not on the pay-per-view
version, so I'm hoping for Girl From North Country.  Does anyone know if this
will be included?

Question #2:  Does anyone know the address for subscriptions to Look Back?

NO Question, just a comment:  Isn't it strange that in 1992 two popular folk-
rock artists (Bob and Michelle Shocked) both of whom usually write all their
own material both chose to do versions of "Frankie and Albert/Johnny?"  And
could their version possibly have been more different?  (I like both of them!)

Wade Greiner
UC Davis
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: tlundgre@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy J Lundgren)
Subject: Re: Dylan Tape Tree songlist....
Summary: Joe Doheny's tape scheme
Organization: The Ohio State University
 RE Joe Doheny's tape tree idea, I'm all for it.  At the moment I am in the 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:53:53 GMT

Tim Lundgren  tlundgre@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Where's the tape tree FINALE?
Date: 20 Dec 1992 11:07:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 From the setlist Joe posted:
Tom Petty & The Heartbreaker
   License to Kill
   Rainy Day Women #12 & #35
Roger McGuinn w/Petty & the Heartbreakers
   Mr Tambourine Man
 
***********************************************************
 
Tape 3: Side 1:
   Trouble in Mind
   Band of Hand
7/2/62: Finjan Clu
.....

  So where is the finale? It didn't make it to the tape? I can't believe it!

Steve, confused and a-fearin'
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: Alan Robock <alan@atmos.umd.edu>
Subject: Talkin' Bob Dylan
Reply-To: alan@atmos.umd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:38:50 GMT

Who's the guy who did "Talkin' Bob Dylan" on his new History album?

Alan Robock  (alan@atmos.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: djs@sadtler.com
Subject: Stadiums Of The Damned
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:29:42 GMT


Has anyone listened to "Stadiums Of The Damned" and if so does it sound
as great as ICE said it should?
-- 
D. Sears                                          Email:  djs@sadtler.com
post += disclaimer;                   Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia 
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Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:55:31 EST
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Bootleg Series - Volumes 4 to ???

In article <1992Dec16.062444.4699@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>,
alien@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Diego Barros) says:
>
>Has anyone got any info on the new Bootleg Series volumes? I had seen it

I've been wondering this myself.  That entry has been in the list for some
time now.  Anybody know anything about it?

Joe Doheny
From: pfmurphy@acs.bu.edu (Paul Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: query about a lyric
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:39:41 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec14.093037.90819@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> apm272v@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>i'm trying to trace a dylan lyric,
>it goes, "i wish i was on some australian mountain range"
>hoping this ain't one of my dumber questions.

The song is "Outlaw Blues" from Bob's first (half) electric album,
"Bringing it all Back Home"    Released March 1965

Not a dumb question at all, and a damn good song. One of my very favorite
Dylan songs (which means one of my very favorites of all)

Welcome to the group.

Paul 


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