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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:40:33 KST
From:         DMetcalf%IC-LOG@WALKER-LTT.ARMY.MIL
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Leonard sed:

>Yes i know Jimmy i keep them in business, i'm not sure of the other people
>you mentioned

Jimmy used to play in a little blooz group called "Trains 'n Trouble", there
in B'ham & up in Huntspatch... if you ever saw that group, you know who Davey
& LaDonna are - Davey played gitarz & LaDonna played ke-boardz... one of the
most FUN blooz sets I've ever witnessed!

cmv SED:

>   Call it reverse-snobbism if you will, but there's a place in my musical
>life for Hendrix, Allan Holdsworth, Coltrane, Quicksilver, James McMurtry,
>Last Exit, Muddy Waters, Sonny Rollins, Ornette Coleman, Leo Kottke, and John
>Zorn, to cite a few examples.  Each one of these folks has something to offer
>-- whether it's story-telling ability (either vocally or instrumentally),
>proficiency on their instrument, emotion in their playing, improvisational
>ability, bringing a "fresh voice", or simply a different cultural viewpoint.
>   I think this has relevance to Alva's discussion on "black vs. white music".
>Music (well, all forms of the arts, probably) may be the best place to start
>understanding a culture -- if you can open yourself up in that area, you are
>incorporating language, emotion, etc.  It may be the beginning of allowing
>yourself to see that culture on its own terms.

Having been in Thailand, Middle East (Yemen & Saudi), Germany, Korea, Japan
& LOTZ o' other places, I REALLY agree with the above, as it pertains to music
being the place to START understanding (or trying to) a culture... but WHY is
it that the good ole' Yew-ess-of-aay breeds so many CLOSE minds?  Or have I
just been AWAY too long?

David sed:

>Ice-T, on the Arsenio show the other night, noted that nobody called
>for boycotts of Arnold Schwarzenegger when he killed fifteen cops in the
>movie _Terminator_. Cheers to Perry Farrell for having Ice-T serve as MC
>of Lollapalooza.

>David

Which goes to show you that Amurrikka is headed in the WRONG direction... SO
much of this crapola is about VIOLENCE... if we need something (on TV, albums
or tapes) to censor (not that we SHOULD), let it be the National SEX Olympics!

MHB SED:

>I'm not too crazy about it myself. I do try not to make blanket condemnations
>by genre (except for Fender guitars :-), but country is just *so*
 >conservative,
>it sets my teeth on edge. It celebrates everything wrong with this country and
>its citizens: kneejerk self-righteousness, redneckism, whining in one's beer,
>fecklessness, and overindulging in metabolic toxins like alcohol.

CONSERVATIVE?  Drugs..., sex..., screwin' 'round with neighbors wives... etc.,
etc., et. al., ad nauseum... NAW, Michael, I don't AGREE, it's not the
conservative form you think it is... it's the ACCEPTANCE of that kind of a
flaky & knee-jerk lifestyle as man's/woman's CONDITION that I object to in
country!  It PROMOTES such thinking, rather than trying to offer an ALTERNATIVE
to it...

>Interesting choice of words. Have you noticed how few of these busybodies get
>around to advocating any restrictions on violent content or imagery? You can't
>see an actual snuff film, but outside of that, it seems like anything goes. It
>has been calculated that the average American vidiot child has seen some
 >10,000
>murders by the time he's old enough to vote. But it's okay for him to watch
 >all
>that carnage, whereas it's not okay for him to watch the act of love? What in
>the name of Christ are we afraid of?

AGREED, think the average child should be REQUIRED to watch a few (*good*)
sex acts - violence promotes violence?  sex promotes sex?  Which is the
better of the TWO?



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