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From: deryl@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: More trivia -- a little tougher
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:44:17 +1200
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <44551@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hartigse@fe607.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Hartig) writes:
> A little tougher this time 'round.
> 
> Whose sister was the song "Dear Prudence" written for?
> 
> (Hint: She's a famous(eh?) actress)
> 

Mia Farrow.
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Strawberry Fields Forever" Edit
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:01:29 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <6638@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> weiss@mott.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.165153.27038@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> alex@drax (Alex Measday) writes:
>>On 3Jul91, David Faciane discussed a "Strawberry Fields Forever" edit
>>at "about 0:55" which must exist before the line "Let me take you 
>>down..."  That edit can be heard (so to speak).  Balance your stereo
>>all the way to the right.  Listen closely at 0:55.  You'll hear *two*
>>breath intakes.
>
>The edit is four seconds later.  If you balance the stereo all the way to the
>left, you can hear from the first part "Let me take you down 'cause I'm" and
>then the word "going" is quite suddenly (and obviously) from the other take.
>It's both abrupt and obvious.
>--

Interesting!  Have you compared the stereo & mono versions to see if they
handled the edit better in mono?  Mono mixes *were* the ones that the 
Beatles really focused on.

Bruce


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From: eloparco@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eugene Loparco)
Subject: Re: Beatles influence on REM?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:36:29 GMT

InB article <32304@darkstar.ucsc.edu> chelle@cats.ucsc.edu (Mavourine Tesoro) writes:
>
>on a nostalgia kick for the past few days, i've been listening
>fairly continuously to ``Rubber Soul.''  whatta great album!
>
>anyway, i was noticing that some of the guitar riffs --
>particularly on _If I Needed Someone_ -- sound particularly
>REM-ish.  'anyone know if the guitarist in REM has ever
>confessed to have come under the influence of the Beatles?
>
>and here i always thought of REM as being *totally* original... ;-)
>
>michelle


On a similar note, has anyone noticed that REM's song "Endgame" sounds very
similar to a McCartney tune? I can't put my finger on what song it is
but I'm sure I've heard something very similar from Paul's solo days. Any
help would be appreciated (or am I just nuts?).

-Gene
From: deryl@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Blackburn..oops...
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:59:14 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Bruce Dumes has pointed out my shocking error of saying "blackford"
instead of "Blackburn".

Humble apologies to all Blackburn residents and devotees.

And me... brought up in Lancashire....tsk...tsk... :-)
Thanks Bruce

Deryl
From: hs@cns.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: George On CBS News
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:43:54 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

In article <1992Apr6.104119.9440@menudo.uh.edu> cosc15xo@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>Just saw George on CBS News talking about the New Something party in
>England.  I believe they showed a clip of him in concert.  Anyway,
>the party is running a Jerry Brown type campaign in England.  George
>was also sporting a mustache.

I personally  was sorry to see George getting mixed up in that: all very fine
ideals and all that, but a General Election seems to me not the best time to
make these sorts of statements: most of the people I've talked to about it
seem to assume that they are a joke party, like Screaming Lord Sutch's. They
had a party Election Broadcast on TV the other day, and it just looked like a
Monty Python sketch, with these long-haired guys with their hair greased back
and wearing suits so as to appear respectable. And last week they ran a
two-page ad in the papers with one page covered in Sanskrit, and the other
in mathematical symbols, apparently "proving" scientifically that the vedas 
had the answers to all of life, or something. Honestly, I looked to the top
of the page to check the date - but it wasn't April 1st.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Subject: Re: Hey Jude, the album
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:41:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.165336.15760@infonode.ingr.com> nelson@palmerc@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (Nelson Jordan) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.180844.4670@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Brian.A.Gordon@dartmouth.edu (Brian A. Gordon) writes:
>>I was curious as to the history of this album, which I believe is
>>American-only?  It contains: 
>>
>>Can't Buy Me Love               Hey Jude
>>I Should Have Known Better      Don't Let Me Down
>>Paperback Writer                Old Brown Shoe
>>Rain                            Ballad of John & Yoko
>>Lady Madonna
>>Revolution
>>
>>Was it released during the time the Beatles were still together?  I
>>have a tendency to file it chronologically before Abbey Road, and I was
>>wondering if anyone out there in r.m.b-land had any insights.
>
> "Hey Jude" was released in the U.S. in 2-70. "Abbey Road" was released in
>10-69.
>

"It's deja vu all over again" 
(yet another recycled topic :-)

According to legend, reported in many sources such as the fairly reliable
_The Beatles on Record_ by Mark Wallgreen, Capitol had already begun taking
orders for the "Get Back" LP.  However, the Beatles pulled the LP at the last
minute, leaving Capitol in the lurch.  Therefore, they manufactured this 
product specifically for the North American market.  The justification for this
project was a collection of songs not previously found on LP, and stereo
versions of songs previously available only in mono.  There are three
variations of the packaging, two commonly available:

1) "The Beatles Again" - Musically the same as "Hey Jude".  However, the
    front cover photo of "TBA" was the back cover photo on "Hey Jude", and
    the back cover photo of "TBA" was the front cover of "Hey Jude".

2) "Hey Jude" - The covers and record name was changed quickly.
    However, there were *many* already pressed records with the name "TBA" 
    printed on the label.  So, rather then junking them, they just issued 
    these in the revised covers.  There are several hundred thousand of these
    around

3) "Hey Jude" - correct labels on the record.

The record was *originally* a North America-only release, but it was obviously
issued elsewhere later.  Don't have my source material here with me, but
will check on that later.

<ESC>


-- 
I want a short-haired girl (who) sometimes wears it twice as long
                                               -- George Harrison
From: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu (SUBU Ramasubramanian)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Indian classical music concert at Purdue
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:13:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr7.071357.2245
Reply-To: ramasubr@ecn.purdue.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

========================================================================
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<         --------------------------------------------
<                    PRESENTS A FLUTE RECITAL
<                            BY
<                      DR. N. RAMANI
<
<A.KANYAKUMARI (VIOLIN)              GURUVAYUR DORAI (MRIDANGAM)
<-----------------------------------------------------------------

                         FLUTE: An indian wind instrument
			 MRIDANGAM: an indian percussion instrument

<DATE: TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1992         TIME: 7.30 PM
<VENUE: NORTH BALLROOM, PURDUE MEMORIAL UNION
<       WEST LAFAYETTE, IN 47907
<
<TICKETS: $7 (STUDENTS), $10 (OTHERS)
<         AVAILABLE AT
<         LOEB AND HALL OF MUSIC OFFICES
<FOR TICKET INFO CALL (317) 494 3933

 NOTE FOR FOLKS COMING FROM OUTSIDE OF LAFAYETTE:
 1.Overnight accomodation can be arranged for a max. of 10 persons; let
 us know in advance (email to ramakril@vm.cc.purdue.edu)
 2. Preferably reserve your tickets in advance
 3. Children below 10 will not be permitted
 4. Directions -

Take I65 (South /North) and exit at State Road 25
After the ramp take a left onto 25 South towards
Lafayette.
At the first Trafic Lights (TL) take a right onto
US 52 West
Keep going on US 52 W, pass two TL
On the third TL take a left onto Yeager Rd.
(At this light you should see a Amoco gas station
just ahead of you and ACE Hard Ware Store on your right)
Take a left onto North Western on the next TL
Keep going on North Western. You should see Smittys on
your left after passing the first TL. After this TL
pass one more TL. On the third TL, you should see a McD
on your left and University Buildings on your right.
You are now on the intersection of North Western and
Stadium.

Pass the next TL and take a right onto State St on the
second TL.
Take a right onto Grant St. on the next TL and park in the
garage on your right, which is right after you make the
turn.
North Ball room is in the Purdue Memorial Union
which is opposite to the garage.
From: afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Ringo's upcoming tour
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:06:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims01.9APR199212064501
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr8.174529.2496@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, kjmcrae@trillium.waterloo.edu (Who wants to know?!?) writes...
> 
>Word is that BURTON CUMMINGS (ex-lead singer from the Guess Who) is also 
>included on the bill...
> 
> 
>km
>GOO GOO G'JOO!!!
> 
tickets for a Cleveland show go on sale Sat, April 11, but I don't know 
what day the show is, anyone that does?


Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: STONES Rock N Roll Circus (was Re: Beatles and The Who)
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:11:16 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Apr3.034044.27041@cc.uow.edu.au> kp@cc.uow.edu.au (Karen Pepper) writes:
>
>If you keep this up I shall be forced to tell the story about
>the time my grandmother wore Little Richard's pyjama top.
>
>
>* Karen Pepper                  *                                     *

Didn't everybody's grandmother do that?

Bruce



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From: pwe@slipknot.mit.edu (Paul W. Emery)
Subject: Paul is ambidextrous *NOT*
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:35:19 GMT

I hate to start this thread up again, but..... I was watching "The
Compleat Beatles" again last night and during a certain section where
the Boys are in India with the Maharishi,they are all walking along in a
crowd of people.They show Paul playing an acoustic guitar *right
handed*.I couldn't believe my eyes.I rewound about five times to
convince myself,yes here on indisputable video was proof,finally that
Paul was a righty.I couldn't wait to get in here and post my scoop.I let
the tape continue filled with elation when lo and behold while playing
that sacred Hindu psalm "when the saints come marching in" they show
John and George playing..... lefty hmmmm could this be a new mystery
unfolding before my very eyes or did they just print the damn film
backwards( sigh.)
    By the way is it me or does Gerry Marsden come off like a real dink
in the (in)Compleat Beatles his singing is really bad.
Just my two pen'orth.

-- 
pwe@slipknot.mit.edu                  "  'ave a good time,all the time
Paul W. Emery                            that's my philosophy"
M I T Magnet Lab Cambridge Mass U.S.A.    -Viv Savage(dec)- Spinal Tap.
               
-- 
pwe@slipknot.mit.edu                  "  'ave a good time,all the time
Paul W. Emery                            that's my philosophy"
M I T Magnet Lab Cambridge Mass U.S.A.    -Viv Savage(dec)- Spinal Tap.
From: veltink@fwi.uva.nl (Gert Veltink)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: german lyrics (was Re: Rutles' lyrics)
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:09:45 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

In article <1992Apr14.161038.5047@cns.umist.ac.uk> hs@cns.umist.ac.uk (Harold Somers) writes:
...
>
>KOMM GIB MIR DEINE HAND            Come, give me your hand
>
>Ah komm doch, komm zu mir          Ah come on, come to me
>Du nimmst mir den Verstand         You seem to understand me

shouldn't this be:
>Du nimmst mir den Verstand         You drive me crazy
			            (literally: You take away my mind)

-Gert.
____________________________________________________________________________
Gert Veltink                | "give us our daily bread, in individual slices"
Programming Research Group  |                            - Elvis Costello -
University of Amsterdam     |
The Netherlands             |                 		veltink@fwi.uva.nl
From: hroberts@everest.srd.bt.co.uk (Huw Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: George to do London Concert
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:31:11 GMT
Reply-To: hroberts@everest.srd.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

From article <1992Apr2.072355.19369@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, by stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter):
> 
> This is ALL I know.....
> 
> George Harrison will be doing a one-off Concert at London's Albert
> Hall on Monday April 6th.  It is apparently a fund raiser for a party
> fighting in the current UK General Election.
> 
> I know NOTHING about line-up, times, tickets, so don't email me!
>

On breakfast TV today, there was an item about this.  The party in question
is the Natural Law party, in which the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is involved.

The item showed a clip of George reheasing Taxman - I guess this will be
the first live peformance of it?

I don't know where to get tickets either, so don't email me.

Huw. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Subject: Re: "Strawberry Fields Forever" Edit
Reply-To: brennan@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Joseph Brennan)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:04:57 GMT

At least one article (by someone else) got lost in this thread.  There
are *TWO* edits in SFF, close together.  The item just posted was about
hearing the first edit, which is the harder one to notice.

Section 1 (0:00 to about 0:55)-- The opening, first refrain, and first
verse are from take 7.  This section ends at a convenient "rest" in
the music at the end of the verse: "it doesn't matter much to me" dum
dum dum REST.  At that point, the next thing on take 7 is the second
verse!  The evidence is the bootleg recordings that have take 7; it
was also played at the Abbey Road Studio Tour this way, so it is
authentic.  It sounds very abrupt when you're used to the released
version, which has a refrain between all verses.  So we know there
must be an edit there just from hearing the tape of take 7.

The post that got this started said, just before the edit, you can
hear John take a breath to start singing the second verse, but then it
cuts to the next piece, where you hear John take a breath to start
singing the refrain!  I have not yet checked this out.  

Section 2 (about 0:55 to about 1:00)-- Just the words "Let me take you
down, cause I'm", also from take 7, but from a later point in the
take.  During this part, the tape speed changes, changing the notes
also, to ease the transition at the Big Edit coming up at about 1:00.

Section 3 (from about 1:00 to end)-- From take 25+.  My recollection is
this starts with "going to" but listen closely and you'll hear where
it is exactly.  This is the Big Edit that is always discussed, the one
George M says he hears every time, and Lewisohn warns his readers that
the same will happen for them once they "hear" it.  The instrumental
part changes so suddenly that it becomes hard to believe you ever did
NOT hear it.

My recollection from Lewisohn (check me on this) is that take 25 is
itself an edit of two takes, but he doesn't detail what that's about.

Alan Pollack has mentioned here that the orchestral track (take 26 I
think?) that appears on bootlegs does not start at the beginning.  If
the tape is complete, and it seems to be, that means that the Big Edit
was planned by the time they recorded the orchestra, a little ahead of
the day where Lewisohn chooses to explain about the editing.

The "Cranberry Sauce" seems certainly from aural evidence to be on the
same track as a drumming overdub by Ringo, even though Lewisohn puts
it on another track.  The Lennon double-track vocal he mentions seems
not to fit the tracks available either.  Let's just say that I'd like
to see someone spend a lot of time with this recording and really sort
it out for us.  It's really a remarkable piece of work technically,
and in fine support of a good song.

Joe Brennan

Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: timmop@aix.rpi.edu (Patrick Andrew Timmons)
Subject: Re: More trivia -- a little tougher
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:04:23 GMT

> Whose sister was the song "Dear Prudence" written for?

Mia Farrow's sister.
From: dave@RAY.MET.FSU.EDU (David Faciane)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: "Strawberry Fields Forever" Edit
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:16:07 GMT



In article <1992Apr6.160818.10775@husc3.harvard.edu> nahas1@husc8.harvard.edu (Stephanie Nahas) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.165153.27038@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> alex@drax (Alex Measday) writes:
>>
>>On 3Jul91, David Faciane discussed a "Strawberry Fields Forever" edit
>>at "about 0:55" which must exist before the line "Let me take you 
>>down..."  That edit can be heard (so to speak).  Balance your stereo
>>all the way to the right.  Listen closely at 0:55.  You'll hear *two*
>>breath intakes.  I propose that the 1st one is for the deleted verse
>>starting "No one I think..."  That breath is cut short - this is the 
>>exact edit point - and we hear a boomy guitar note start and another
>>breath intake, this one for the imminent "Let me take you down..."
>>
>
>O.K., I know this is old, but I wasn't around in July, and I beg to 
>differ, so I thought I'd put in a word.
>
>I had thought (and read this, too, in Mark Lewisohn's book) that the           edit occurred at precisely 1:00, right after "cos I'm" and just 
>before "going to." Can anyone back me up on this? Have a listen; it
>sure sounds like a definite break to me. Again, sorry if I'm stirring
>up a tired story, but then I wouldn't be the first one guilty of that,
>now, would I? :-)
>
	Absolutely not! But to clarify, in the original article of
	all those months ago, I stated that there are in fact TWO
	edits in SFF; the first occurs at 0:55 into the released
	version and the second at the 1:00 mark as you and "THE
	BOOK" have stated. The story behind the more famous edit
	(the one that joins the two separate versions of SFF) has
	been told so many times that I won't bother boring you here.

	The first (0:55) edit is used to reorganize the song
	structure, which was originally Refrain--Verse--Verse...
	in take #7 and was changed by Martin, et al to : 
	Refrain--Verse--Refrain--Verse...

	Hope that clears things up. I had hoped the half-life of a
	single posting to r.m.b was considerably shorter than 9
	months-- what else have I written that lies waiting in
	someones hard drive for the right moment to blow up in
	my face?


David Faciane        | "I was just singing it in the toilet
dave@ray.met.fsu.edu |  so I think I should get it --JL 1965
From: ehenry@hydra.unm.edu (Elizabeth Henry CIRT-IRC)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Eight Arms to Hold You
Date: 11 Apr 92 03:57:16 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I think I've finally figured out how to do this...my
apologies for my previous false starts...

I have a copy of an original "Ticket to Ride" 45 on
the swirl Capital label.  Beneath the song title it states
"From the Motion Picture 'Eight Arms to Hold You".  I read
somewhere that this was the original title to "A Hard Days
Night".  Is this 45 particularly rare or were many printed
with the original film title?

Thanks!
!
From: sasjrm@beatle.unx.sas.com (Jeff McDermott)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: unsurpassed 6 & 7
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:30:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: unx.1992Apr8.193016.4147
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: sasjrm@beatle.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 419

howdy,

in no way am i affiliated with norway or john young, etc. but
i have this problem...

i recently bought a couple extra copies of unsurpassed masters 6 & 7
but now that person does not want them & i am stuck with them.

i paid $25 for each and would like to sell both for the same.
they are unused since i also got copies for myself.  is anyone
interested in helping me out?

thanks!

please reply email,

-jeff
From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer Western Kentucky University)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: BeatleTrivia
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:44:35 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <44501@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hartigse@fe638.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Hartig) writes:
> In article <1992Apr8.184759.27654@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jruiz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jose Ruiz) writes:
>>
>>     Another Trivia question for all you experts:
>>
>>     What color are the cellophane flowers that are "towering over your head"?
> 
> Oh brother.  Who do you think you're dealing with here, Jose?  Let's try 
> one.
> 
> What song did Paul play a fuzz bass on? (Hint: Rubber Soul)

Think for Yourself

-- 
******************************************************************************
*  Mike Shroyer                     What's the difference between Greeks     *
*  Western Kentucky University       who all dress alike and non-conformists *
*  shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet             who all dress alike                     *
*  shroyer@wku.edu                                                           *
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From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: enin rebmun
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:16:30 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Apr8.164220.5370@menudo.uh.edu> edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen) writes:
>Yes, for those of you interested, "ENIN REBMUN" which sounds something
>like "TURN ME ON DEADMAN" has been posted to alt.binaries.sounds.misc
>in .snd format for macintushes and NeXT's.
>
><ESC>
>
>-- 
>ou est le soleil, dans la tete, Travaillez.
>                                    -- Paul McCartney

For those of you who need it on a Sun, I've converted it to .au format.
It really does sound a little like "turn me on deadman".  

Bruce






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Stratus Computer, Inc.		|   --comment on report card from Spring '64 |
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508-460-2816
From: v111hg7j@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Greg Bondar)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Shared Vocals (was Re: Lennon/McCartney)
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr9.170841.27700@pellns.alleg.edu>, mccombj@reis4.alleg.edu (Joseph McCombs) writes...

>> In how many Beatles's songs was there a sharing of lead vocals, i.e. 
>> "A Day In The Life" where Paul get's to sing the middle section?  I  

>Shoot!  I'm stumped on this one!
>Can anyone else out there help?

Do you mean only solo singing, or is it ok where the lead changes, but the
others are singing backup? _We_Can_Work_It_Out_ is one of these. Im sure there
are many others.

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                       These opinions are me own, of course!