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From: akhale@pollux.usc.edu (Abhijit Khale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Tintin Cronology
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:51:45 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov10.220347.1015@scott.skidmore.edu> jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:
>curtis@aries.wistar.upenn.edu (curtis wahlgren) writes:
>> Do any readers of this group know the chronological order of the Tintin 
>> stories? I know it is not not in the order shown on the backs of the books.
>> For instance when does Tintin first meet Captain Haddock?
>
>It's in the Shooting Star.
>
>> - The Crab With The Golden Claws.
>
>No.

No, its "Crab with the Golden Claws". There is an explicit panel where the two
meet and the Captain asks him who he is. 
>
>> But when does he meet the two detectives? (I believe they are called
>> Thompson and Thompson in English.)
>
>Hm, I believe that he meets the detectives in the Blue Lotus, but I'm
>not sure.  I'll check.

I think its "Cigars of the Pharaoh". "Cigars .." predates Blue Lotus. 

>> Does he start out with Snowey? In which issues
>> do major characters first appear?
>

Snowy's been there since the first adventure. Professor Calculus first
appears in "Red Rackham's Treasure". Bianca Castafiore in "King Ottokar's
Sceptre". 

Anyway, the chronological order in which the books were written is
(I'm probably slightly off on some). 

Tintin in the land of the Soviets
Tintin in the Congo
Tintin in America
Cigars of the Pharaoh
The Blue Lotus
The Broken Ear
The Black Island
The Crab with the Golden Claws
King Ottokar's Sceptre
The Shooting Star ???
The Secret of the Unicorn 
Red Rackham's Treasure
The Seven Crystal Balls
Prisoners of the Sun
Land of Black Gold
Destination Moon
Explorers on the Moon
The Calculus Affair
The Red Sea Sharks
Tintin in Tibet
The Castafiore Emerald
Flight 714
Secret of the Picaros

There was also the film book 

Tintin and the lake of Sharks

I'm slightly uncertain about the position of the Shooting star, since I cant
remember if Calculus appears in it (if he does, then Shooting Star would
postdate Red Rackham's treasure). 

Herge's first works are ok, but not all that good. Blue Lotus is probably
the first which has a coherent plot, then he goes back to Broken Ear, which
has a very confused and bizarre plot. The series takes a quantum jump in qual-
ity with Black Island, and the quality continues till "Castafiore .."
[Castafiore is probably the funniest of the Tintin books]. Picaros is
just OK, and Flight 714 is bad. Tintin and the lake of Sharks was not
done by Herge and is a real loser (no Herge book, even Flight 714,
could be a real loser). 

Continuity isnt that important to Tintin books, although its fairly consistent.
There are also a few two parters : Unicorn and Red Rackham, Crystal Balls
and Prisoners, the two Moon stories, which should be read in order (although
they're pretty good even if read out of order). 

Abhijit




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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: The Death of Superman
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:02:50 GMT


Saw an amusing article in the Minneapolis-St. Paul Star Tribune.  It's a 
piece on the death of supes, with the writer constantly referring to Dan 
Jurgens as "the killer."  Highlights follow:

"Jurgens was unable to give a good motive for killing Superman. 

He said that Superman has been very good to him and his family.

"I teach my 2-year old son two things:  What does Superman do?  He flies.  And
what else?  He pays the mortgage."

[...]

"Hundred of outraged people have protested the killing.  "We'd just as soon 
they kill off the guy that drew him as kill off Superman," said a police 
dispatcher in Metropolis, IL.  "Threy shouldn't kill off our heroes.

Jurgens said that there have been death threats at DC."

[...]

The DC plan is apparently to stop publishing Superman comics entirely.

As to whether he will ever be back, "That's up in the air now," Carlin said.

Yet one small candle of hope is lit by Curt Swan of Westport, Conn., who has
pencilled Superman and other comics for 25 years.

"I think the idea behind it is to make him vulnerable.  Before, he could
overcome anything and everything.  I told them years ago that they were headed 
into trouble because he was invulnerable," Swan said.

After Superman's "so-called death in November, I'm sure he'll be reincarnated 
sans most of his Superpowers.  I didn't get that straight from the horse's 
mouth, just kinda from the horse's mouth," he said.


Another accompanying story revealed a little bit of unknown Superman trivia:

"By 1950, he had developed one Achilles heel.  Kryptonite was introduced for
a practical reason.  Superman had by then expanded into radio, and whenever 
actor Bud Collyer, Superman's voice, needed to take a vacation, Superman would
be exposed to the substance.  "All you needed was someone in the background
groaning."

-- 
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From: rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls)
Subject: Re: X-Men: The MovieOkay, since there's been plenty of talk about the
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:19:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.204611.22286@afterlife.ncsc.mil> acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:
>In article <1dckdlINNip2@male.EBay.Sun.COM> zombie@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (zombie) writes:
>>In article <92310.172212SMM130@psuvm.psu.edu> SMM130@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>>Personally, I would prefer Julia Roberts as Jean Grey, or Mary Jane in the
>>>Spider-Man movie.  Also, how about Clint Eastwood as Wolverine (Snappy patter,
>>>smokes cigars, kills bad guys as soon as looks at them....)
>>
>>Clint Eastwood??  WAY too tall.
>>
>
>Hey, here's a twisted idea:
>
>Danny DeVito as Wolverine.
>
>Thank about it: he's the right height, not very attractive, used to
>playing obnoxious characters, and he can do psychos (a la the Penguin.)
>-- 
>We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
>protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
>Arthur C. Adams acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil            	<fnord>
>No, I'm not the Arthur Adams who draws comic books. Don't even ask.

No, the perfect Wolverine is Robert Conrad (Go ahead knock this battery
off my shoulder :-)

				Jolly Roger
From: 003695s@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHANE ANDRE SAVOIE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: 2099
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:50:31 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


>>	2. Fantastic Four 2099:  I think finding out what happens to Franklin
>>	Richards in the future would be interesting.
>
>I already told you:  In 2099 he's just about old enough to enter 
>high school. :)
>
 Dreamer. 

KID ANARKY
From: L-Bueno@cup.portal.com (Louis Alberto Bueno)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: RETURN OF SUPERMAN PLANNED, EVEN BEFORE HIS DEMISE
Date: Wed,  4 Nov 92 23:06:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

RETURN OF SUPERMAN PLANNED, EVEN BEFORE HIS DEMISE
--------------------------------------------------
By William S. McTernan
(c) 1992, Newsday 11/02

           Superman will be back.
           Since word leaked out in early September that the superhero
would be killed in the issue that hits newsstands Nov. 17, D.C. Comics has
been getting 15 to 20 phone calls a day pleading, ``Say it isn't so,''
according to public relations director Martha Thomases.
           Friday, Thomases confirmed what many comic book followers had
suspected all along: ``I'd bet money they're going to bring him back.''
           The Man of Steel is going to be killed by a supervillain named
Doomsday. So, how will he return? That was the subject of a three-day
meeting this week of the editors of the four Superman comic books. Mike
Carlin, Dan Jurgens, Roger Stern and Louise Simonson ended their annual
conference Friday.
           Thomases swore she had no idea how the editors would resurrect
Superman, and inside word at D.C. is that the comic book editors don't,
either.
           ``I hope they come up with something. You wouldn't believe some
of the theories I've been hearing,'' said Thomases. ``One story goes that
the new Superman will be Lois Lane's baby.''
           Well, will he? ``Of course not,'' she sniffed.
           But D.C. is not inflexible. The comic publisher has already
bowed to political correctness by dropping the original description of
Doomsday, the assassin, as ``an escapee from a cosmic lunatic asylum.''
Advocates for the mentally ill had objected.
           Based on advance sales, Thomases said, the Superman death issue
will be ``the best-selling issue of Superman ever.'' She would not provide
a figure.
           The issue will be sold at the regular newsstand price of $1.25,
as well as in a special commemorative issue that includes a black armband
with the Superman insignia and a trading card for $2.50.
           Meanwhile, Parody Press is planning to release a satirical
version of D.C.'s ``Death of Superman'' comic books. The two ``Deaths of
Stupidman'' will be written and drawn by San Diego artist Bill Maus and
will be available in late December for $2.
From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Spiderman:  The Movie
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:50:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Anyone hear any news on this one??

    This was a major subject of conversation last year.  I seemed that
everyone agreed that James Cameron was directing it, but on no other point or
gossip was their an agreement.  There were an awful lot of rumors going around
(many that I personally foud doubtful).

    Perhaps PAD would have some inside info he can offer us.


    
-- 

-------------------------------------------
| You wanted the best;  You got the best! |     Paul Stanley, 1977
-------------------------------------------
Cedrick  Chan,  a lost demented soul
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: vpillai@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Subject: +_+_PHILISTIN TEMPLE at DRAGON +_+_+
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:03:21 GMT

hi
	Can anybody help me for answering this question

	Who distroyed PHILISTIN TEMPLE fo DRAGON at GAZA ?

	Thanking in advance for your reply

	VELU PILLAI

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (St. Elmo's Fire)
Subject: SANDMAN:  Convergences:  Themes?
Organization: Man in Motion
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:59:44 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

	OK, gang, I'm hoping to start in on CONVERGENCES in the next couple of
weeks.  Anybody got any bright ideas what the set is ABOUT?  I don't see a
common theme, or really even any connecting threads.
	Note that the title is plural; that may mean something.  Also,
"convergence" means a coming together.  What's coming together in these
stories?
	Hoping for some bright ideas....
-- 
"One murder makes a villain, millions a hero."--Beilby Porteus                 
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman: These Four Immortals...
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:10:17 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

steyn@cs.rochester.edu (Gavin Steyn) writes:

>Gavin Steyn
>steyn@cs.rochester.edu
>"So he's had the lifelong ambition of reversing the polarity of the earth?"

Wow!  Another Steyn!  That's the first one I've ever seen on the net
other than myself.  Come to think of it, that's the first one I've seen
other than myself (and family) period :-)

	Mark (Steyn :-)

-- 
? Look within the Hearts of mortal men and see, ? Mark Steyn :          ?
? The Hopes, Dreams and Wishes of a world,      ? marks@castle.ed.ac.uk ?
? Guarded under Lock and Key.                   ? mpjs@dcs.ed.ac.uk     ?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER 2099)
Subject: For those that are sick of the Legion of net.heroes
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:45:20 GMT

I've already responde to Mr. Cowling personaly, but I want y'all to here this
as well.

The reason that the LNH has to cross-post to rac.m is because on of you (a LNH-
basher) decided to be cute and send in a create news group message, before
anything had been decided.  At the time the LNHers had been working on a 
formal proposal for the group.  By sending in the create command out of turn,
the idiot caused alt.comics.lnh to be regarded as a bogus newsgroup by many
SysAdmins.  In other words, he doommed all like him to having to put up with us.

WE( The members of the LNH) are attempting to find a way so that everyone
who wants to read our posts can accsess the group.  Untill such time, every 
LNHer is actively encouraged to use a "LNH:" prefix in their postings, so that
killfiles may be used.

AS FOR THE IDEA THAT WE ARE OFF TOPIC: We are comic related.  We are not strips,
nor marketplaces, nor info, nor xbooks.  Thus we are misc.  If you don't like 
it, tough!

We are trying to exist with the rest of the net peacefully.  There are many 
people who enjoy creating the LNH stories, and there are many more who enjoy 
merely reading them.  I'd like for us to exist only on alt.comics.lnh, but,
as I said before, it was one of you LNH-Bashers who have made that nearly 
impossible!


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From: akhale@pollux.usc.edu (Abhijit Khale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth
Date: 8 Nov 1992 07:40:11 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov8.051559.8644@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
>In article <1dhpu6INNon4@pollux.usc.edu>, akhale@pollux.usc.edu (Abhijit Khale) writes:
>
>|> 3) Superman vs. Dev-em : Dev seemed to be winning, but the fight didnt last
>|> too long. 
....
>You have contradicted yourself.  You note that Superman fought Dev-em and
>they were roughly at equal power levels.  Recall that Superman fought
>Dev-em in the 30th century! 

Yes, but Dev-em had just arrived from the 20th century (complete with Guy
Gardner haircut), so he should count as a 20th century Daxamite. That being
said, he did seem as powerful as Laurel. Also, I didnt say Superman and Dev-
em were at equal power levels. The fight was really not more than a few 
panels and they hardly exhanged blows, so this doesnt count. 

>Other than the two powers I mentioned:
>living without air and interstellar flight, the Daxamites haven't been
>shown to be much more powerful in LSH than Superman.  We haven't seen
>Lar Gand or Laurel Gand drag around any stars in post-crisis LSH.

No, we havent. But there are several indications that Lar is nearly as powerf-
ul as he used to be. Remember Sade's comments to Valor that he could have
taken out the entire Dominator fleet all on his own. Superman is certainly not
close to being able to do that, nor could he do that during Invasion.

Abhijit
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: PEOPLE: Name Withheld
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:50:39 GMT

jrd@frame.com (James Drew):
>"Image parodies itself when the Marginal Seven, comics' leading superstar --
>Beat Lifeguard, Lotus Lee, Godd McFarthing, Name Withheld, Sly Virility,
>Val J. Tazmania, and Wilt What'ziz'name...

>The founding creators of Image are, of course, Rob Liefeld, Jim Lee, Todd
>McFarlane, Erik Larsen, Marc Silvestri, Valentino, and Whilce Portacio.  Match
>the names as you see fit.

Couldn't you at least give us a clue? :)

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

  Watership Down:  
  You've read the book.  You've seen the movie.  Now eat the stew!


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From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: Dream and the Prodigal do history..
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:58:04 GMT

lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:

>(BTW, there's one theory that states that ROYGBIV came from Newton trying
> to match colors to available paint pigments. Thus we're stuck with indigo.)

el24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Liu) writes:

>    If my chem teacher was right, ROYGBIV came from an attempt to match the
>colors of the spectrum to the Western 8-note musical scale, since this would
>show some incredible balance between sight and sound, and demonstrate the
>perfectness of the creations of the universe or something like that . . .

mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:

>Erm, ROYGBIV has 7 letters. So Newton was obviously matching to the Endless.
>Destruction went prodigal, and Indigo light went with him. ;)

You guys are such kidders.  The original poster left off one letter from
ROYGBIVO, and everyone has forgotten octarine.
-- 
 "When Dexter's on the Internet, can Hell be far behind?"
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Casting and X-Men movie
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:43:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.125744.20387@yang.earlham.edu> marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt)) writes:
>Just for the heck of it some friends and I fiddled around with the casting 
>for a mythical X-men movie with and infinite budget. I thought you might 
>find it a bit more interesting than  posts about being the last post
>
>Arch Angel - Patric Swayze
>Beast      - Robin Williams
Well he's hary enough but hardly the right build

>Colosus    - Arnold Schwartzeniger
Why is Arnold the only one ever mentioned for Colosus.  Sure he has an accent
(it's the wrong accent, but us Americans are too dumb to know the difference)
and he's strong, but Arnold is a bit too OLD to be Colosus.  Maybe if it was
days of Futures past, but...
>Cyclopse   - Charely Sheen/ Kevin Costner
Michael Beihn(?) (from Terminator) is the obvious choice, this WILL be a Cameron
film.

>Gambit     - (The guy who played Max Headroom)
The guy is Matt Freyer and once again he's too old.  I suggest Harry Connick Jr.
I mean Gambit IS modled after him.

>Iceman     - Val Kilmer
>Nighcrawler- Mandy Potempkin (Inego from Princess Bride)
Not bad, I would say Jim Carrey (from In Living Color) He can get into 
the possesions the Kurt could, plus he has the sence of humor (Dennis Miller
suggessted Jim should play Spider-Man to Stan Lee.  Jim could do ANY McFarlane
pose.)

>Prof. X    - Patrick Stewart (Picard)
>Rogue      - Alie Sheady
I don't see it.  I'm not sure who (maybe Kathy Ireland :-) but not Sheedy

>Shadowcat  - Need ideas
Well Bryne would like Sigourney Weaver but....
>Storm      - Imon/Vanity/ Grace Jones
>Wolverine  - Mel Gibson
I like DeNiro for the part myself

>Other  Possabilities:
>Bishop     -
Carl Wheters doesn't sound like a bad idea (just the age thing again)
>Forge      - Lew Diamond Phillups.
>Jubile     -
>Longshot   - David Bowie
I second Richard Dean Anderson for the part (again the age thing)
>Pheonix    - Christine Applegate
>Sunfire    -
>Thunderbird-
>
We got to remember that most of the X-Men (except for Storm, Wolverine, Psylocke
and most of the originals--well that is a number of them :-) are in their very
early 20's

AND I'VE SET FOLLOW-UP TO *.XBOOKS SO DON'T WORRY>

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From: morpheus@cco.caltech.edu (Kynn Bartlett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN:  Convergences:  Themes?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 10:30:16 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov7.235944.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (St. Elmo's Fire) writes:
>	OK, gang, I'm hoping to start in on CONVERGENCES in the next couple of
>weeks.  Anybody got any bright ideas what the set is ABOUT?  I don't see a
>common theme, or really even any connecting threads.

People from the Waking World wander into the Dreaming and meet one
(or more) of the Supporting Cast of Sandman.

				--Kynn
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Who edits Image?
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:02:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov5.150234.26218
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Paul Michael Lewis (pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu) wrote:
: Who edits Image?

Nobody!!!

Or at least close family members if there's an editor!

That's the whole point! Creative freedom! No Bob Harrassment 
screwing your continuity up!

: Is there anyone who could say to Lee or LEVIfield that they cannot do another
: 6_member_beat'em'up_cool_STABLE-LEADERtm_xmenripoff team book?

Would *YOU* tell 501 he couldn't do a book!?

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Subject: METROPOL A.D.
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:30:23 GMT

Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Keywords: 


Any fans of Metropol and Metropol A.D., out there?

If so, please! Write! I think it is a great comic, and I would like to 
hear from other readers. Seeya.

Majak, of the "Voyageurs sans Permis"
From: mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC: Destruction and Delirium
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:20:58 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


 lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:

|> pautler@ils.nwu.edu (David Pautler) writes:
|> 
|> >How many times does it have to be pointed out that Delirium was already
|> >Delirium at the time of Orpheus' wedding, but that Destruction did not
|> >abandon his post until the 1600's?
|> 
|> I blame most of the confusion on the painting of Delight in Destiny's 
|> gallery. It looks modern or at least Victorian.

You can't blame the guy for having outdated paintings, he is blind, ya know.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                  + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +