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From: cej0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES EDWARD JAMES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: My picks, AL/NL East
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:03:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>But, boy will Denver be a nice place to hit.  It's a mile in the air
>and in a park that seriously favored the hitters in its minor league
>(a few years ago; I don't have recent info.)  Again, can anyone get
>some recent data and make a good prediction?  It'd be a sabermetric
>coup to predict that some Rocky will hit 40 homers (yeah, right) and
>be right.
>                               --Jeff
>
I saw a preview of the stadium and the club, etc. and in the stadium they're
playing in this year there have been 2 HRs hit of over 500 feet.  I forget who
hit them or exactly how long (I think like 520 and 540 feet), but when you
watch a game of the Rockies at home iif you can see into the left field upper
deck there are two seats that are painted orange and that's where the two HRs
hit.
-- 
Charles James
Lehigh University
CEJ0@Lehigh.EDU
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What eeees it????  You fat bloated sack of protoplasm!!!!
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From: drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU (David Robert Walker)
Subject: Re: Worrell to the Dodgers!!!!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.110340.9736@netcom.com> arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.014034.26071@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
>>
>>No, they were very much in the same world.
>>
>>	AVG	OBP	SLG
>>Leadoff .265	.332	.343
>>Overall	.260	.331	.333
>>
>>In other words, vurtually no change.
>>
>>And I have no idea what makes you think he's a potentially great
>>leadoff hitter.  It's possible he could be a decent one.  But I 
>>wouldn't expect him to ever maintain an OBP over .370, and he is
>>a menace to his own team on the basepaths.
>>
>
>I think you're making a rash judgement on only one season of full play.
>
>Rickey Henderson had a .338 OBP in his first season.
>Brett Butler didn't start htting the .390s until his 7th year in the majors.
>
>Besides, Offerman had great minor league numbers and for some reason
>until the second half of last year, he couldn't hit.

On the contrary, last years total numbers are very much what you would
expect from Offerman. His BA/OBA/SA equivalents (using my methods, not
James') are

1989  Cal. Lge.   273/347/353
1989  San Anton   250/332/308
1990  Albuquerq   259/340/301
1991  Albuquerq   223/318/249
1991  LA          191/336/235
1992  LA          259/337/373

Clearly 1991 is an off year. He seems to be constrained right now to
about a 260 BA/340 OBA. Given his age, the likely area for increase is
in the power, which jumped this year. Average may yet come up some
too, and he does walk a reasonable number of times (75 per 650 PA).
(I don't expect him to start cranking out 20 homers; the power
increase would come by hitting mid-30s in doubles).

The comparison to Butler isn't bad. Butler didn't get into the majors
until age 24, which is what Offerman will be this year. HIs walk rates
the first three years are comparable to Jose's now. 

But one thing that bothers me is that Offerman's numbers haven't
changed much over the period. When you look at the 20-23 year old
stats, you want to see growth, improvement, development. Offerman's
lines are pretty static.

Clay D.
Date: Saturday, 12 Dec 1992 15:44:45 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: who stole the kishka?

what is in it for the twenty-six owners to expand, and let two more
owners in the game? there's no profit sharing, so i don't think they're
going to gain financially from the two new teams, and it decreases
their chances of making the playoffs (thus decreasing profits).

so what's the scoop?

bob vesterman.
From: genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: EXPOS :TEAM TO BEAT IN THE EAST
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:40:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering

Thus spake B7XS@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (B7XS000):
>Being from Montreal and of course a diehard Expos fan it is very
>hard for me to understand why the Expos don't get the recognition
>that they so obviously deserve. Look, when was the the last time you
>saw an Expo on the the cover of Sports Illustrated.

Stick around, Jonathon.  I know a lot of stat-drunk comp nerds (myself
included) who think the Expos are the class of major league baseball for
the foreseeable future.  I couldn't believe it when I heard that they'd
acquired Tim Spehr somehow (how did that happen?).  That gives them a 
starting in-the-field lineup of 

	C	Spehr
	1B	sign a free agent
	2B	DeSheilds
	SS	Cordero
	3B	Stairs?
	LF	Alou
	CF	Grissom
	RF	Walker

...which is enough offense to crush any resistance.

>The Expos are deffinetly the team to beat in '93. 

No argument here...


-- 
       David Tate        |"Out of the dugout endlessly swinging,
 dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | Out of the manager's throat, the sound fundamentals,
 Prof. of Story Problems | Out of the six-month season..."            
 Member ORSA, TIMS, SABR | 	Walt "Lefty" Whitman
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From: mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck Subgroup Exterminator McMath)
Subject: Re: All time Senators/Rangers <gasp!>
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: MSD
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:25:13 GMT

In article <1g5pqnINNr72@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas
Fowler) wrote:
> 
> 
>      How can a team be this bad after 32 years in existence?
> 
> C  Don Slaught

	How about Jim Sundberg?  I believe he actually even appeared with both the
Nats and the Rangers.  He had a very long career, and was a good hitter on
and off.  Don't know about the D, tho.

> 1B  Mike Hargrove (They'd hope the "Human Rain Delay" brought rain)
> 2B  Julio Franco (Who was it before the trade with the Tribe?)
> SS  Toby Harrah
> 3B  Buddy Bell
>      (2 players who were decent, but who won't get near the HoF without a
> ticket.)
> 
> OF  Ruben Sierra
> OF  Frank Howard
> OF  ???   Jose Canseco based on a month??  Jeff Burroughs??  Pete Incaviglia,
> perhaps. <gag.  In a league with Feller, Ford, Grove, et. al., he'd fan 200
> tiems!!>
> 
	
	From my days as a Senators fans, let's see: Lee Maye, Ed Stroud, Del
Unser... uh, I suppose Canseco wins this one.  Actually, Unser had a pretty
good career also, though I believe most of it was with the Phillies.

>      Lets see if we can't do a little better in pitching.  Hmm...
> SP:  Nolan Ryan, Ferguson Jenkins, Charlie Hough (good so far),
> Jose Guzman (?), errrrr, and everyone pitches on 2 days' rest.
> 
	Joe Coleman?  Of course, true to Senators form, his best years were after
he was traded to the Tigers.

	How about David Clyde?    ( :) <-- for the humor impaired)

> RP:  Jeff RUssell, uh...  With these pitchers, they better use old Griffith
> Stadium.  No, they better use Yellowstone National Park!

	Ya gotta include Darold Knowles, IMHO.  Of course, after he was traded to
the A's he made a few World Series in the early 70's.  And he even grew a
neat-o handlebar moustache.

>      Seriously, am I missing anybody who really had a good career with them?
> I won't even try to do the Mariners!
> -- 

	Depressing, isn't it.

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From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays-Gillick
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:55:14 GMT

In <BzEx9A.7Fp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks) writes:

>In article <1992Dec17.024640.21506@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>>
>>I guess we will just have to wait for Valentine (or any of the other "prominent"
>>posters to this group) to start blaming Cito for the Jay collapse.  And when he 
>>does, I will call him a dork.  
>>

>But, Roger, since you're the one who thinks that the only thing that matters 
>is what has just happened, if the Jays collapse, you'll be the one blaming
>Cito.  By your definition, if the Jays don't do well, he'll no longer be a
>good manager.  The people who have been saying they don't think Cito does 

Not quite - by my definition Cito can't be a "better" (and I don't like that
word) manager than the manager of the winning team. 

>a good job will just be saying the same things they've been saying all 
>along.  Why criticize someone for saying the same things about a manager
>when he has a bad team that they said when he had a good team?

Well if he wins it all one year and then turns around and loses it all the 
next year while doing the same things then obviously one should look for the 
problem elsewhere.  

peace and goodwill and all that crap,

rm

-- 
roger maynard
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
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From: akamholz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Andrew E Kamholz)
Subject: Re: Mattingly
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:10:19 GMT

For the last damn time, I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HIS OFFENSE!
I did not say he is the best first baseman. I said I thought he has
the best defense. That is all I said!

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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Atlanta pitching
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:48:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.183329.11680@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gotribe@cbnewse.cb.att.com (richard.g.barry) writes:
>Looks can be deceiving.  The Braves staff is the same as in '92 except
>the Maddux replaces Leibrandt (who had a great season with 15 wins!)
>
>Avery only won 11 games and had a 129/70 K/BB ratio - not that great.
>Expect the same in '93.
>
>Glavine won 20 games with a 129/71 ratio.  Expect his numbers to drop
>in '93 (i.e less than 20 games).
>
>Maddux won 20 games with a great ratio.  

WITH THE CUBS!  Sheesh.  Ok, let's spell out the difference between
Leibrandt and Maddux.

Maddux      268 IP, 201 H, 36 DB, 5 TP, 7 HR, 65 ER, 70 BB, 199 K, 2.18 ERA
Leibrandt   193 IP, 191 H, 34 DB, 4 TP, 9 HR, 72 ER, 42 BB, 104 K, 3.36 ERA

DIFFERENCE   75 IP,  10 H,  2 DB, 1 TP, -2 HR, -7 ER, 28 BB, 95 K, -0.84 ERA

>He's the best pitcher in the
>NL, but if he has a GREAT year in '93, it won't be much better
>than what Liebrandt had in '92.

The difference between Maddux and Leibrandt is *eight* one-hit shutouts.
*And then some*.  Maddux "only" won twenty games, but he was pitching for
the *Cubs*.  The same stats with the Braves would've have let him win
24 or 25 games.  If Leibrandt had pitched for the Cubs, he'd have won
13.

>So overall, this staff should probably do just as good as it did
>in '92, which isn't bad, but it's not any kind of All-World staff.

A 2.95 ERA in Fulton County looks to me a lot like an All-World staff.
And they've just added the best pitcher in the National League to replace
their #4 starter.  That could drop that ERA another quarter of a point,
which leaves a lot of slack for someone to have an off-season and be just
as good.

>Not even close.  Cincinnati's is just as good.  Plus they've got
>a great closer.

Atlanta has two starters better than Cincinnati's #1 pitcher, and four
(five if you include Smith) better than the Reds' #3 pitcher.  Last
season, the Braves, pitching in a worse park for pitchers, had a starting
ERA a full 0.60 below the Reds.  And the difference between Maddux and
Leibrandt is a hell of a lot more of an improvement than the difference
between Smiley and Swindell.  As I mentioned earlier, the Reds gave at
least 24 starts to pitchers with a 5 ERA or higher.  The Braves gave
161 starts to pitchers with ERAs below 3.4.  They gave *one* start to
a pitcher above a 3.4 ERA (Armando Reynoso, with a 4.70 ERA).  The Reds
gave 57 starts to pitchers with ERAs above 4.  You really expect me to
believe that the Reds' starting matches up with the Braves?

And the relieving won't be bad, either, if they pitch Wohlers instead of
Reardon or Pena.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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From: akamholz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Andrew E Kamholz)
Subject: Re: marge.
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:22:27 GMT

In article <92346.005040RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
>
>  "you know, you can say what you want about marge schott, you

I saw that line and loved it, but your one mistake is that he said
'good looking man', following his same joke about Saddam Hussein.
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Manny's Phone # Needed
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:54:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Dec16.175409.14452
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Off Beat

Does anyone have the phone # for Manny's, the mailorder company that
sells all sorts of baseball hats?  They used to be in NY, but apparently
they've moved to Florida.

-dx
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From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (Dave Bonar)
Subject: Re: '93 Royals Infield?
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-21878]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
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Organization: News and Views from LSU
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:20:19 GMT

In article <kbanaian.106.0@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu>, kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian) writes...
>Joe M Leonard writes:
> 
>>What is the contract status of Wally Joyner vs. the Royals - I thought
> 
>He signed a four-year deal during the season, for I think $4m/yr.  He was 
>happy.  This is a case, I think, where the Royals might have saved a few 
>bucks by waiting;  I mean, could there really be that much demand for this 
>>
>>1B	Joyner
>>2B	Lind
>>SS	Gagne
>>3B	Jefferies
> 
>Aside from Jefferies, looks like a second-division infield to me...

	Actually, I rather like this infield.  Joyner, Lind and Gagne are
very good defensively.  Its a little weak offensively but not horrible;
if Jefferies has a good year it isn't that different from Atlanta's 1991
infield of Bream/Hunter, Lemke, Belliard, Pendleton.  However, Atlanta
had a great set of outfielders and terrific pitching.  With the people KC
is going to have this infield isn't going be good enough.

Dave
__________
Dave Bonar
eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Statheads and park effects
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:42:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.222310.29315@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> akamholz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Andrew E Kamholz) writes:
>Good point. I am not even bothering to predict what kind of year
>Boggs is going to have because, asside from his injuries, one
>cannot really generalize as to how Yankee Stadium differs from 
>Fenway Park. Remember that Boggs is living in a whole different world
>now; it's not just the park that has changes- it's his whole life. There
>are many more factors than just the park change that go into what kind\
>of year he will have.

On the other hand, one can note that Wade Boggs has *never* played
spectacularly well outside of Fenway: his stats have been inflated
by the fact that he would consistently (until this year) hit .380
in Boston, but 75 points below that with half as many XBH outside
of Fenway.

That, plus his aging, and we can make a reasonable guess that he'll
be hard-pressed to do better than 290/370/375, and will be probably
closer to 270/360/350, unless he has a slow start and the New York fans
turn on him for not being Charlie Hayes, and then he'll hit 250/340/320.

That's my prediction.  If Boggs pulls higher than a 750 OPS in over 100
games, Amit can streak across..., oh, never mind.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: lbr@holos0.uucp (Len Reed)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Stupidest rule in baseball (perhaps a new one)
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:56:19 GMT
Organization: Holos Software, Inc.

In article <BzDFxH.MMF@cs.uiuc.edu> silber@cs.uiuc.edu writes:

>Without the infield fly rule, the following scenario exists:
>
>Runner on 1st, ball is popped up. If the runner stays on 1st, the fielder
>lets the ball drop, throws to second for the force out. Since the batter-runner
>can't reach 1st with a man staying on it, he might be doubled off as well.
>If the runner leaves 1st, the fielder catches the ball and throws to first
>for a double play.

Well, I already replied that the IFR is not so important to baseball that
changing it would radically affect the game.

I see, now, that you don't even know the rule you've decided to champion.
The IFR is not in effect under the circumstances you detail.  (That is,
unless there's also a runner on second base and maybe third.  Of
course it's never in effect if there are already two outs.)  If there's
no runner on first, the runner can hold up and the batter can indeed run
to first base.  It is *his* base: the runner is forced to second until
such time as the batter is called out (e.g., the fly is caught).

Under circumstances such as you describe, the batter should run to first
and stand there.  The runner should also stand on the base or just
off it.  It the ball is caught, the runner should return to first.
If the ball is dropped, the runner will likely be forced at second
but the batter will get first.  Thus, the defense has no way to
get a cheap double-play and the IFR is not needed.

If the batter doesn't run to first base the defense can indeed drop the
ball and get a double play.  And the batter will get his ass chewed
out when he returns to the bench.

The IFR covers when *two* runners could be trapped into the "run if
not caught -- don't run if caught" situation. 
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From: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: Re: '93 Royals Infield?
Reply-To: mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Michael Chen)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:41:23 GMT

In article <sf_xoEC00WBNQ3O1k6@andrew.cmu.edu> Josh S Linder <jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Jefferies may still be going to Toronto with Tom "Flash" Gordon for the
>Yankees' Danny Tartabull (with Jack Morris going to the Yanks).
>
This rumor keeps being brought up on the net.  Is there really truth
to it?  I have never heard of it in the NY papers, or anywhere else
for that matter.  Where was this rumor first heard?


-Mike
/mike@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: All-Time Padre team
Date: 13 Dec 92 04:34:39 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

So, this team isn't really horrible, actually...

C 	Santiago
	Kennedy

1B	McGriff
	Colbert

2B	Bip Roberts
	Roberto Alomar, just for the nice three seasons...
	Alan Wiggins

SS	Ozzie Smith/Garry Templeton (both hit better in StLouis...)
	Enzo Hernandez (my favorite Padre...)

3B	Nettles
	Sheffield
	Ed Spiezio :-)
(it's been a tougher position for the Padres than for the Mets)

LF	Colbert maybe, ... Kevin McReynolds

CF	oops.  Cito Gaston?

RF	Tony Gwynn
	Dave Winfield
	Ollie Brown

put Tony or Kevin in CF.

SP	Randy Jones, Gaylord Perry, Bruce Hurst

RP	Rollie Fingers, Goose Gossage

Manager: Dick Williams

Mascot: the Famous "KGB" Chicken
	new mascot is "Bluepper", aka "down in front"

Promotion: Sky Show 3-D fireworks

Comments?  Remember, I saw Dick Selma beat Houston 3-0
on opening day 1969 ...

-- 
Dave DeMers			 ddemers@UCSD   demers@cs.ucsd.edu
Computer Science & Engineering	C-014		demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet
UC San Diego					...!ucsd!cs!demers
La Jolla, CA 92093-0114	(619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029
From: coolidge@speaker.wpd.sgi.com (Don Coolidge)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: All-time Red Sox team
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:02:49 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec10.195508.23031@watson.ibm.com>, mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones) writes:
|> To sort of paper over the angst I've gotten from Lou Abbott's (I know, it's
|> spelled "Gorman", but trust me, it's PRONOUNCED "Abbott") sabotage of the
|> Sox in the last month, I've been giving some thought to happier days....
|> 
|> It seems like there's a really good first team, but my bench is kind of
|> weak. Who am I forgetting?
|> 
|> C   Carlton Fisk
|> 	Elston Howard? (remember '67)

	Sammy White

|> 
|> 3B  Wade Boggs
|> 	Butch Hobson?

	Frank Malzone!

|> OF  Jim Rice
|> 	Tris Speaker
|> 	Ted Williams  (These three start. Speaker in CF, flip a coin for RF.)
|> 	Carl Yaztrzemski 
|> 	Dwight Evans  (Tough choice between Dewey and Fred Lynn. Honorable
|> 	               mention to Reggie Smith and Frank Duffy).
	Jackie Jensen
	Jim Piersall
	Tony Conigliaro!
	
|> 
|> SP  Cy Young
|> 	Roger Clemens
|> 	Lefty Grove
|> 	Smoky Joe Wood
|> 	Luis Tiant

	Bill Monbouquette
	Bill Lee (well, occasionally. And for pure entertainment value!)
 
	(El Tiante only had a couple of his good years with the Sox. If
	 he's there, you'd also have to put Ike Delock, Earl Wilson, and
	 yes, Dennis Eckersley...)

Don Coolidge
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From: cduchene@alfred.carleton.ca (Cathie Duchene)
Subject: jays in Ottawa Wed. Dec. 16
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:08:31 GMT

Does anyone have any information about the Jays coming to Ottawa to be
honoured at the Governor General's Wednesday?

Will there be an opportunity for the public to see them or get an
autograph.  What a great Christmas present for a 10 year old fan!
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Women Sports Reporters
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:53:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.165337.27469@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
>As I recall, at least one team owner tried to get all the reporters (no
>gender distinctions) out of the locker room and into an interview area.  He
>was more or less 'jumped on' by the commission (not sure whether this was
>baseball or football) who argued that it was required that interviews take
>place in the locker room, and that an interview area was not an acceptable
>substitute.

The only recent thing I can think of that comes close to fitting your above
scenario was the situation with Sam Wyche, the coach (not owner) of the
Bengals (a football team).  Wyche tried to unilaterally ban women reporters
from the locker room, not move all reporters to an interview room, and the
league came down on him.  

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com


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From: akamholz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Andrew E Kamholz)
Subject: Re: morris/Tartabull/ KC rejects idocy?
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:05:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.012542.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> dhirmes@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
>Also, they clearly have offensive problems that need to be
>adressed, and trading one of the most potent offensive forces in the game for a
>mediocre pitcher who is even more expensive than Tartabull doesn't seem to make
>sense. I haven't read a thing about it in the papers, just on this net. Did
>someone make this up or what?
>
Something that few people seems to realize is that both the Yankees and 
Phillies, two teams very often criticized of failure to produce runs, both
produced very well last year. While I agree with the above statement in that Morris-for-Tartabull is stupid, stop short changing New York. 

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