From: rg@datcon.co.uk (Richard Gledhill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Beef Sandwich - Re: Amiga now kicks PC butt - no way.
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:52:53 GMT
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Marv Gordon (marv@pnet51.orb.mn.org) wrote:
: dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dan Cable) writes:
: >ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
: >
: >>'>That's it.  From what I can tell, the PCs lock up a lot more often than my
: >>'>Amiga crashes, by far.  And often when they lock up, ctrl-shift-reset
: >>'>doesn't work and you have to power cycle.  But rebooting an Amiga with
: >>'>ctrl-amiga-amiga always (and I mean ALWAYS) works.  Overall, my Amiga
: >>'>crashes about once per week (I leave it on 24 hours/day, and i use it for
: >>'>several hours each day, mostly commercial apps).  The PCs in the lab crash
: >>'>a couple of times per day, and sometimes a couple of times per minute.  It
: >>'>all depends on the software.  (And yes, OS/2 crashes also, just as much as
: >>'>Windows 3.1).
: >
: >>	My experience is completely opposite.  I've had my 486 running OS2
: >>   since 2.0 came out in Late March.  It's only crashed once since then,
: >>   and that was my fault for trying to load the wrong drivers.  I've had
: >>   many bugridden freeware and shareware DOS programs crash under OS2, but
: >>   fortunately because OS2 uses memory protection, the app dies not the
: >>   OS.  This is something the Amiga OS sorely lacks.  On the Amiga's I
: >>   have used ( owned an A500, had access to an A3000 ) when programs died
: >>   it took the whole OS with it, and programs died quite a bit.  A heck
: >>   of a lot more then programs do on my 486 with OS2.                
: >
: Well, I have an A3000 at home with 2.04 in rom and the 2.1 upgrade.  At work I
: am developing under OS/2 with extended services AND the october service pack
: GA upgrade.  Now I like OS/2 ...... BUT it is NOT more stabe than my AmigaDos!
: and for general use it's a PIG with an 8 meg system it starts swapping like
: crazy running just a couple apps.  One thing for sure, I'll take it over
: Windoz ANY day......
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I've owned an A500 (Workbench1.2), upgraded it to Workbench1.3, then
upgraded the ROMs and software to Workbench2.04, and now my brother
owns an A600HD.  I'm a hardened Amiga fan, having owned one for over
three years, but I have to say that OS/2 (1.3) is more stable then
AmigaDOS v1.x or v2.x.  I've been developing software on OS/2 for the
last three months, and although many programs have crasshed within it,
OS/2 itself hasn't crashed once; however I've had to reboot several
times because the memory-swapping goes beserk (I have 10Mb RAM and
about a 6Mb swap file).

Although I love using the Amiga, I have to say it isn't as stable,
but then it's worth remembering that OS/2 is designed for more
powerful machines (can you imagine it running on an 8086?) and so can
take advantage of things such as crash protection without unduly
slowing down the machine.

However, with the new breed of Amigas coming out (A600, A1200, A4000
and, I suspect, a 68030-based middle-of-the-range machine -
A1600/1800/2200/2400?), I think we should finally see the Amiga for
what it is - not just a games machine, but a highly potent graphics and
sound machine at a good price.  Remember, the A4000 at top whack can
knock the fastest 486 for six (and more).

Finally, does anyone know anything about the new machine(s)?  Any
details/rumours would be appreciated as I will buy one as soon as it
comes out, providing it has the new sound chips, 68030 processor, the
new graphics chips and Zorro-II compatible slots.  So come on
Commodore-Amiga!  Let's have it!

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