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From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Lars is my hero!  (was Re: apologies, but I still need a little help)
Date: 5 Sep 1992 03:27:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) says:

>>sh install.2.x -v 2.2.2d /usr/src/linux
>>
>>:command not found
>>'yntax error near '()
>>'nstall.2.x:5: 'kernelstuff()
>
>Did your files go via MS-DOS, so that the shell script (a text file) got
>Unix newlines (a lonely LF) converted to MS-DOS newlines (CR then LF)?
>It looks like you did.  If so, you need to remove the CRs, with flip or
>some other similar utility if you have one, or standard text utilities
>(tr comes to mind) if you don't. 

yeap.....those nasty control-m characters got all in their somehow.
maybe dos ftp or mtools did it. 

Should we put a warning in the FAQ about getting text files by FTP???

BTW, gcc 2.2.2d compiled nicely after I deleted all those ^M's....by hand. :)

-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: Killing background processes on logout
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 07:15:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.140349.25323@athena.cs.uga.edu> hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks) writes:
>FLAME ON:
>
>Learn to accept, Kevin, that you are as likely as anyone
>to be wrong at every turn.  From the csh(1) manpage of
>SunOS 4.1:
>
>
>     nohup [ command ]
>               Run command with HUPs ignored.  With no arguments,
>               ignore  HUPs throughout the remainder of a script.
>               When given, command is always run in  a  subshell,
>               and  the restrictions placed on commands in simple
>               if commands apply.  All processes detached with  &
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>               are effectively nohup'd.
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>FLAME OFF
>
>=============================================================================
> Hal N. Brooks     Voice: (706) 546-7792     Internet: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu
>=============================================================================

That is a flame?  :)  I can see how he missed that part of the manpage,
as the csh one is L-O-N-G.  My attention starts to drift before I get
through 100 lines!

-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson
* ujlh@sunyit.edu        "Some day I might have a real .signature!"
From: cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: usinngg SLIP within KA9Q ???
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:44:36 GMT
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.

In article <harry.716016320@puff.socsci.umn.edu>, harry@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Kuo-Chen Chang) writes:
> Did anyone ever use SLIP within KA9Q?  I used kermit to establish
> SLIP connection to our TelCommunication.  But I was confused abooout
> what to do next?  Push to local shell and run "net"?  Or what?

That's what I do.  I do it with one command line:  "! net"  from within Kermit.

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From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: sock_init hangs on 0.97pl2
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:11:21 GMT

About 3 times out of 5, upon bootup on 0.97pl2, sock_init (when 
intializing the AF_UNIX sockets; I haven't installed the tcpip patches)
hangs the system and I have to reboot. This usually happens about
15 seconds after sock_init's message appears on the screen; possibly
whatever comes after sock_init (the next message to be displayed if it
_doesn't_ hang is the partition table) is what's actually hanging. 
Has anyone had similar problems? Should we look at this part of the code
to make sure that nothing's wrong with it?

This is a 386sx with 4 megs ram; 213 meg IDE drive partitioned 
with 3 Linux partitions and 1 (small) DOS partition. 

I'm gonna upgrade to pl4 in a few minutes if anyone thinks this will
help, tell me.

mdw
-- 
Matt Welsh    mdw@tc.cornell.edu        +1 607 253 2737
Random Hacker, Cornell Engineering and Theory Center 
  "People will say we're in love."  --Hannibal Lecter
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel)
Subject: Re: 57.6Kbps under Linux -- some results...
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:54:09 GMT

In article <!nwn!6h.harp@netcom.com> harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
>BTW, the reason I keep saying 16550A and not just 16550 is because a
>glance at the code tells me that Linux is only enabling the FIFO if
>the UART is the 16550A (refer to lines 265-272 of serial.c).  Linus,
>can you tell us why you don't use the FIFO on the 16550?  I've
>personally never used the FIFO because my projects were for 16450
>UARTs, but I'm not aware of any problems.

The reason is that the original NS16550 (without the "A" designation)
had some serious bugs in the buffer routines.  Thus, most comm programs
(including QModem and most FOSSIL drivers under DOS), and apparently
Linux as well, are smart enough not to even bother.

I don't remember the symptoms exactly, but I think that in certain
situations (e.g. 38.4Kbps and above) the buffers would overrun, causing
the chip to lock up.  Or something like that -- please correct me if
I'm wrong.  There was a discussion recently on comp.dcom.modems about
this.

Nobody sells the plain 16550 anymore -- in fact, NS tried to recall
every single chip it sold, so I doubt whether anyone's still using
them, especially since NS16550AFN's are down to $10 apiece.


-- 
Todd Radel                   | "I obscenity in the milk of all," Agustin said,
CIS/English undergrad        | "if it does not seem like a lunatic asylum in
University of Delaware       | here." -- Hemingway, _For Whom the Bell Tolls_
A.I. duPont Institute, 1600 Rockland Road, Wilmington, DE  19899
From: s891961@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Peter David Cupit)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del & reboot/halt weirdness
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:46:00 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

fridlund@mermaid.micro.umn.edu (Jim Fridlund) writes:

>In article <1992Sep8.180259.18147@muddcs.claremont.edu> jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:

>>>Anyway, whenever I do a shutdown or reboot, I get a lockup 
>>>instead.  The following is the output I get when I use these
>>>commands (I added the indention):
>>>
>>>	URGENT: message from the sysadmin:
>>>	System going down IMMEDIATELY!
>>>
>>>	in:
>>>	        ...  ...
>>>
>>>	down IMMEDIATELY!
>>>
>>>	in:
>>
>> Where did you get shutdown from?  It looks like it may be corrupt, or
>> doing something else strangely.  It certainly shouldn't print messages
>> like the above.

>I believe this is the mcc-interim package.  I get this kind of message
>also.  Sometimes it works, and sometimes it hangs the system...


    I get this message,(running MCC 0.97pl2),  reboot never crashes my
    system.  Linux never crashed actually..  Some core dumps.

    I find this pretty wonderful since I used to give Coherent some
    problems at times..

    Peter.
From: bills@news.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: XXGDB
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:40:55 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming - Laramie, WY

Hello,
		Has anyone ported XXGDB to Linux.  I downloaded the source from
WU archives(128.252.135.4), but it doesn't even come close to compiling.  There
are a lot of undefined ioctl commands such as FFAPPEND.  If anyone has ported
XXGDB or even used it(should I bother porting it?) please drop me a line.
				Thanks,
				Bill Saunders
				bills@outlaw.uwyo.edu
From: Rob.Levin@f217.n3802.z1.fidonet.org (Rob Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: DR-DOS and linux boot, 14 char filenames
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 05:28:10 -0800

>   oading...................
>  L

 B> The dropped L..., is it caused by the antique EGA-card I am using?

That's correct--you need to have the 'L' on your EGA card replaced.  It
has evidently lost its vertical positioning.  I suggest using one from a
recent-model VGA card.  With a little WD-40 and some sandpaper it will
fit right into your EGA card....

:-)  :-)  :-)

Rob L.

P.S.  No idea what the problem is.  But, you probably got that from the
above....  [grin]

 * Origin: Via the Annex in Victoria, TX (1:3802/217)
From: parrt@garage.ecn.purdue.edu (Terence J Parr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: DOS emulator, ghostscript for linux w/o X11
Keywords: DOS, ghostscript, ghostview, X11
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:44:11 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Electrical Engineering

I saw a reference to libemu.  Is this a DOS emulator?  I couldn't find
a ref to this in FAQ I have.

Is there a emulator to fake linux into running some "obedient" DOS
graphics applications?  My PC won't run X11 w/o a new driver.  OR, is
there a way to run ghostscript under linux w/o X11 or DOS emulator?

My basic problem is that I want to run groff and view the results
on my screen.  Is there a port of groff for DOS?  I know ghostscript
works under DOS.

Thanks in advance,
Terence
From: scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Best 'thing' to upgrade?
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:53:52 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland


In article <1992Sep7.133714.21760@cs.hw.ac.uk>, scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn) writes:
|> I have a 25MHz 386DX, 5 megs, 120MB HD, and am looking to upgrade my system.
|> The options are :
|> 	33MHz 486DX motherboard
|> 	more RAM
|> 	bigger HD
|> 	387
|> 	or a combo of some of the above.
|> 
|> Budget of about 400 pounds, which will get me a cheap 486 motherboard.
|> 1MB cost about 25 pounds, I can go up to 8MB (motherboard limitation) this way.
|> A 387 about 130 pounds
|> I think my HD is big enough for the moment.
|> 
|> So, I guess the question is, would I be better getting 8 megs and a 387, or sticking with 5 megs and getting a 486?
|> 
|> Cheers,
|> 
|> Scott.

OK, thanks to all who replied, there have been many replies.  So if anyone
else is in the same position as I, here's what to do :

1. buy 20megs of RAM,
2. buy a 387
3. buy a bigger hard drive
4. buy a 486 motherboard
5. wait until prices drop even further then buy a 486 motherboard
6. wait a bit longer, but a 486 motherboard with local bus video/hd
6. wait even longer and buy a P5 motherboard
7. get a friend in the states!

Well, thanks all, you've really solved my problem :-)

I guess the lesson here is, everyone has very unique requirements.

Cheers,

Scott.
From: baron@clifton.hobby.nl (Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: problems getting 800x600 out off an ET-4000
Organization: Minix Hobbynet Host
Date: Mon,  7 Sep 1992 23:14:25 MDT

hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) writes:
> stud07@cc4.kuleuven.ac.be (Dirk Dussart) writes:

> Note that the actual numerical values you list for the clocks
> don't matter.  X simply matches against the list so that it knows
> which clock to use.  So it doesn't matter whether you call it 25 or
> 36, as long as you list it first in the clocks statement, what you're
> getting is the first clock.  If you want a 36 MHz clock, you're going
> to need to know which clock is 36 MHz, and make sure you listt 36 in the
> right position.

Is this really true? I indeed sorted my Clocks list for handy reading,
and I may well have been trying to match the wrong clock. 

I'll certainly give this a try.

-b-b-
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From: simonm@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Simon Marlow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: File Managers for X
Date: 5 Sep 92 13:21:52 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Little Kenny Hamer) writes:

>I am new to the wonders of X and unix, and therefore know little about the
>X servers available in the world.  I have sort of found useful things by
>trial and error, but one item eludes me...

>I would like a File Manager, something that will display the directory
>trees and files on my filesystem.  Does such an item exist for X?  If so,
>what is it called and how do I get it?

>Thanks,  KEN

Yes - I wrote one. Its called xfm (X File Manager). There doesn't seem
to be much call for these for X windows though - most people seem to
prefer the command line (me included :). Its pretty good though, a bit
like the program manager/file manager combination for MS Windows. You
can have loads of windows open, each one displaying either a tree,
icons or text display, and move/copy files between them. All the usual
operations are supported - renaming, changing permissions etc. The
application manager lets you launch programs from icons, and load files
into applications by dragging them over.

The bad news is I haven't written any docs for it, allthough I can
probably chuck some out in a couple of days.

Please email me if you would like a copy.

Cheers,
	Simon
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ramesh@utdallas.edu (R. Ramesh)
Subject: Problems with X version 1.1
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:33:19 GMT

Hi:

  As the subject says I had/have quite a bit of difficulty in making X v1.1 to
work. version 1.0 works flawlessly (I am using it now) but v1.1 does not.  I
cornered the problem down to X386 server. Here is what happens. With v1.1 I
get no image at all - all I get is a flickering screen (oh, boy! didn't I have
difficulty in getting out of X). When I replace the version 1.1 X386 by v1.0
X386 (but retain all other stuff from v1.1) I get back to working system.
Could some one tell me what I am doing wrong (I read the README's and I still
not able to see the answer to this, if it is there). Here is what I have:

1) gcc -v  tells me
   Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.2.2/specs
   gcc version 2.2.2

2) Linux version 0.96c
3) Gateway 2000 486DX/33 with Diamond Speedstar Plus card and microsoft serial
    mouse (I believe zorst has the same display hardware)
4) NEC 5FG (shouldn't matter)

Please help.

Ramesh.

PS. btw, could some one tell me how I can swap the functionality of backspace
    and delete keys in X - RR.
From: gt0449a@prism.gatech.EDU (Rob Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Dos Emulator
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:44:53 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I've got Linux 0.97pl4 and have just decided to give the Dos Emulator v0.1
a try.  I have read that some (including Linus) have gotten this to work,
but after compiling the programs and following the instructions, I am
unable to get anything but a coredump upon running "dos."  Is there
something in the current kernel that would cause this behavior?  Or am I
using an old version of the emulator?

Appreciate any suggestions..
-- 
Rob Coleman ][ gt0449a@prism.gatech.edu        ][  "I think I'm going bald!"
Comp. Sci.  ][ Georgia Institute of Technology ][        -Rush/COS
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From: david@prism.demon.co.uk (David Metcalfe)
ReplyTo: david@prism.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: 0.97pl4 breaks SCSI extended partition code
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.15 $
Organization: ** none **
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:41:24 +0000


In article <3541@ra.nrl.navy.mil> eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:

> In article <1992Sep9.000644.1996@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold) writes:
> >Okay. This looks like a generic problem with the SCSI extended partition code.
> >I have seen several senarios which result in the problems described above.
> >
> >	1. Adding the CD-ROM filesystem extentions did it for me.
> >	2. Compiling the kernel under GCC v2.2.2d did it for some
> >	3. Now, looks like pl4 has blown it in this case.
> >
> >I was trying to work with Eric (the author of the CD-ROM stuff) to find
> >out what goes wrong, but my disk controller flaked out and I haven't
> >had a machine for the last week...
> 
> 	I found another guinea pig, and it appears as if we are closing in
> on the solution.  What I do know is that make_request in ll_rw_blk.c returns
> because it believes that the read is beyond the end of the partition.
> Specifically, the problem shows up in the following segment:
> 
> 	count = bh->b_size >> 9;
> 	sector = bh->b_blocknr * count;
> 	if (blk_size[major])
> 		if (blk_size[major][MINOR(bh->b_dev)] < (sector + count)>>1) {
> 			bh->b_dirt = bh->b_uptodate = 0;
> 			return;
> 		}
> 
> As of yet, I do not know whether the blk_size array is incorrect or if sector
> or count is corrupt, or whether we are not converting something somewhere.
> I hope that within a day that we will have enough information to squash this
> bug. 
> 
I have now confirmed that my problem occurs in exactly the same
place.  The values of the key variables with pl4 (the one that fails)
are

blk_size[major][MINOR(bh->b_dev)] = 0
sector = 0
count = 2

When I repeat the same exercise with pl2 (which works), the values of
the variables on the first pass through the routine are

blk_size[major][MINOR(bh->b_dev)] = 507905
sector = 0
count = 2

So the problem would appear to be with the blk_size array.  I will
leave someone else to work out what the problem is because I'm not
really a kernel hacker :-)

> -Eric
> 
> 
> --
> Eric Youngdale
> eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil
> 
> 

David

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David Metcalfe          david@prism.demon.co.uk     
+44 81 361 3327         dmetcalf@cix.compulink.co.uk
From: pmacdona@tadpole.bcsc.gov.bc.ca (Peter MacDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: re: SLS and mail
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:13:16 GMT
Reply-To: pmacdona@tadpole.bcsc.gov.bc.ca
Organization: The Internet

I believe your problem with mail is fixable with

	chmod ugo+rwxt /usr/spool/mail
From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kermit lock files
Date: 14 Sep 92 07:10:58 GMT
Reply-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester

In article <BuF9wG.1Co@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG> steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins) writes:
:In article <1992Sep10.160855.23000@news.nd.edu> jonathan@nova.next.nd.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw) writes:
:>I have linux running using the MCC-Interim release (and by the way, a great
:>job done in that package.)  The kermit that comes with it (which I'm using now)
:>works fine but it puts its lock file in /tmp/LCK..ttys0
:
:In point of fact, the lock dir for uugetty (from getty_ps, I'm assuming) is a
:#define, so you can set it to whatever you like.  (/tmp seems like a goofy
:choice to me, however)

The 'choice' is made by the authors of C-kermit, and is the default if you
choose certain compilation options.

     --Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gt5584e@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Deering Boykin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: NFS? Internet?
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:35:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hi I have been out of the net for a while and as a rsult am not up to date.
Being a unix idiot I have a couple of questions...
What is the NFS file system? Now that linux has tcp/ip( or will in
.98 can I use my comp running this to connect to the INternet?
I just purchased the new Gateway 2000 66Mhz/ 486Dx2 with local bus. Will
linu run on this machine. It has a new Ati video card and an IDE hdd
controller card on the local bus. All help will be appreciated.
p.s. I am sorry if this stuff is answered in a FAQ but I couldn't find a recent release...

Edward D. Boykin                    Maximus Maximizer Ultimate        \  /|
gt5584e@prism.gatech.edu            Georgia Institute of Technology   'o.O`
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Ultimate X card out?
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:00:19 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY


  A friend just called and read me a blurb about a new card supposedly
shipping now, using three S3 hispeed chips in grayscale mode, and with
4MB memory. This gives 1280x1024x24bit color! It's accelerated, it's
(relatively) cheap, and supposedly the Windows drivers are done and (he
was not clear) the X drivers are either availbale for UNIX or will be
within a week or so (sept 1?).

  Now if we could get this board supported, it's going to make
workstation quality graphics affordable for personal use. Pricy, but
affordable.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: darabe@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Doug Rabe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: UUCP set up on the SLS distro
Summary: UUCP set up on the SLS distro
Keywords: UUCP, SLS
Date: 11 Sep 92 06:00:12 GMT
Followup-To: NONE
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: Illinois State University

Could someone summarize how one should setup uucp stuff on the SLS distro.  I   would like to be able to connect to another U*nx box from my machine using the 
uucp package that comes with the SLS distro.  But, I have no idea where to startHow should the /usr/lib/uucp/(config files) be set up to call another box using
my modem?  Could uucp be used to do cron'ed download of my mail from my Internetsite?  If so, how?  E-mail me or post something, thanks in advance.             darabe@ilstu.edu                               

Linux continues..........
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: krouth@etcs03.eld.ford.com (Kevin C. Routh)
Subject: 0.96c -> 0.97? , Trident 8900C
Reply-To: krouth@etcs03.eld.ford.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:00:23 GMT

Please pardon the novice question.  How do you upgrade from 0.96c to
0.97?  I installed 0.96c from the image disks which I got from
sc.tamu.edu.

Also, I was wondering about the status of the Trident 8900C driver.  Is
there a compiled alpha or beta version somewhere which I could try/test?

Thanks.

-- 
Kevin C. Routh                 Internet Mail: krouth@etcs03.eld.ford.com
Ford Microelectronics                                 IBM Mail: USFMCTMF
IC Engineering (formerly ASIC Technology Group)
17000 Rotunda Drive - Room B-121
Dearborn, MI  48121-6010                      Voice Mail: (313) 337-5136
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