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From: hendrix@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dane Hendrix)
Newsgroups: dc.general,dc.driving
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Date: 10 Sep 92 11:29:23 GMT
Reply-To: hendrix@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dane Hendrix)
Followup-To: dc.driving
Distribution: dc
Organization: Code 1542, DTMB, Bethesda, MD

Could this discussion be moved to dc.driving?  Most (all?) sites should 
be receiving dc.driving by now and this discussion comprises an overwelming
portion of the dc.general traffic.  (Translate:  There is a new lane
open on USENET for dc.driving traffic.)

BTW, I think building new/bigger/better roads to allow people to commute 
farther to work causes pollution in the long run.  Public transportation
and carpools must provide their users with time/money incentives to 
effectively reduce pollution.

Dane Hendrix                              | email: dane@wizard.dt.navy.mil 
DTMB (a.k.a. Headquarters, Carderock Div.,|  or hendrix@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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From: Steve.Rose@f601.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Rose)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Director's cut of Bladerunner ?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 23:59:24 -0500

Hello Pete!

 PA-a> What is this ?
 PA-a> How does it differ from the original movie ?


No narration.
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: U.S. Naval Observatory and AtomClock
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:08:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.time.ntp
Distribution: dc
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC

In article <1992Sep10.205412.16891@eco.twg.com> reece@eco.twg.com (Reece R. Pollack) writes:

%  Take a look at the NTP protocol before you start playing with the
% daytime service. NTP will allow extremely accurate time
% synchronization even across wide area networks. There are a couple of
% NTP servers on the net which are synchronized by atomic clocks, and
% quite a few synched to WWVB.

Reece is quite correct.  NTP is much more accurate than daytime or rdate
or most anything else and NTP implementations are free.  The specification
for NTP is in several RFCs available online at various places (local to DC,
try ftp.uu.net) via anonymous ftp.

A list of known clocks on the Internet is in a file clocks.txt
(spelling?)  on louie.udel.edu and sources for an NTP daemon (xntp3)
are also available there.  Sundry other NTP stuff is there.  There are
very high quality clocks on the net local to DC.  The USENET newsgroup
comp.protocols.time.ntp is where discussion should head.

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil


From: Jeremy.Idol@f177.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Jeremy Idol)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: U.S. Naval Observatory and AtomClock
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:39:00 -0500

SN > There was an application named "AtomClock" that would
SN > use you modem to dial a number in DC that once belonged
SN > to the US Naval Observatory in NW DC.  Their number
SN > would answer the phone with a 1200 or 2400 baud modem
SN > transmitting the exact time according to the Earth Clock.

There is a dos program that does it called TIMESET.  I use it as a nightly 
event here  on my BBS.  The number for the service is 202-653-0351.  That will 
get the computer that spits the current time at you...

From: Henry.M..Halff@p932.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Henry M. Halff)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Busted Fax Giveaway
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 09:22:45 -0500

We have a broken Murata M1200 fax machine that would cost more to repair than to
replace. We're perfectly willing to give it away to some worthy cause that could
wheedle a free repair out of a charitable fax repair place. The fax apparently
needs a new logic board and power supply.

If you're interested, write me at 72415.1463@compuserve.com.

hh


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From: mheney@access.digex.com (Michael K. Heney)
Subject: Car for Sale - 1984 Horizon
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:37:31 GMT

     1984 Plymouth Horizon - 
         4 cyl 2.2 liter engine w/5 speed manual transmission
               (standard engine on this is a 1.8 liter)
         4-door hatchback
         93,000 miles


Car is registered/titled in Michigan.  My (new) wife and I have 3 cars
plus a motorcycle between us; we need to lose one.  Will need a new
exhaust system (including catalyst) to pass Maryland inspection, but
it's a good-running car.  I'd be able to get $1200 - $1400 for this
back in Michigan (no inspections!); I'll listen to reasonable offers
taking into account the need to get this past MD inspectors.  To be 
sold "as is".  E-mail mheney@access.digex.com for info, or call
(301) 933-0809 (home).
      

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mheney@access.digex.com   |     * Will Work for Money *      |  Stars, eh?
Kensington, MD (near DC)  |                                  |

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 15:14:02 GMT


In article <1992Sep09.014559.1469@openage.openage.com>, ghost@openage.openage.com (Glenn Host) writes:
> David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:>
>
> I attempted to take the bus/train between a job in Silver Spring
> and Reston.  It required two buses and two trains
> 1. Express Bus  - Reston -> West Falls Church
> 2. Orange Train - West Falls Church -> Downtown
> 3. Red Train    - Downtown -> Silver Spring
> 4. Bus          - Silver Spring to Work
> 
> Total time: 2 hrs each way (if you got lucky in transfers)
> Total Cost: approx. $7 per day (rates changed several times)
> 
> It does not cost anywhere near that much to commute by auto
> and travel time is 1/3.
> 

What is the price for cleaner air (a less polluted environment), not having to
pay higher taxes to fix over-used roads, lower insurance because of fewer
accidents.

Over simplistic economics put the economy where it is now. I'll vote for HOV
even if I don't get to use it.

Kev.

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From: hibanez@wam.umd.edu (XXXman)
Subject: Wood working
Originator: hibanez@rac1.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:15:00 GMT

hello...

I have several wood working projects and was wondering if there are
any places with wood working tools open for public use.
Tools and machinery, actually, like a drill press, circular saw, band saw,
etc.

Please respond to me directly via email:  hibanez@wam.umd.edu


thanks.


larry
  
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: al@escom.com (Al Donaldson)
Subject: Re: Homeless in DC
Reply-To: al@escom.COM (Al Donaldson)
Organization: ESCOM Corp., Oakton VA (USA)
Distribution: dc,md,va
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:23:00 GMT

In article <eV3qqB1w164w@options.uujobs.com> jim@options.uujobs.com (Jim Johnson) writes:
>...now that Mitch Snyder is gone. 

Such a shame.  Does anyone know what the rest of the Detroit Wheels
are doing now that he's gone?  I mean, "Good Golly, Miss Molly" and
"Devil With a Blue Dress On" are still classics...

Al

:-)
Newsgroups: dc.general,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.unix.admin
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: U.S. Naval Observatory and AtomClock
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:26:18 GMT

dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:
>The time of day is output as a 300 bps bitstream.  This is perhaps
>the only thing stopping me from buying a ZyXEL modem (I hear that
>there's no room in the ROM for 300 baud support).

I find this extremely impossible to believe. Zero-One Networking
has impelemented FAX, Caller*ID decoding, and many otherwise
unthinkable stuff in the modem. I am certain that it does
300 bps (as antiquated as that sounds). I suggest
that you check again, because the Zyxel is a nifty modem.


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From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Director's cut of Bladerunner ?
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:51:48 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Sep09.145206.20095@srg.srg.af.mil> akerson@deimos.srg.af.mil (Pete Akerson - akerson%srg@uunet.uucp) writes:
>
>
>What is this ?
>How does it differ from the original movie ?
>--

    Apparently when Bladerunner was released back in 1982, a great deal of
    footage that Ridley Scott had wanted in the film was left out by the
    studio in the final cut.  Rumor has it that the restored footage changes
    the character of the film.  ( Perhaps making it more like Philip K. Dick's
    book _Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?_ ).

    Anyway the release of the director's cut of Bladerunner has been hinted
    at for a little over a year now.  Seems Sept. 11th is the date.

    BTW:  Thanks to all who responded.  I've found the theater in D.C. that
    will be showing the film.

        	        	       	       	       	       	       	       
                                                               - Max

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:09:48 GMT

In article <24883@oasys.dt.navy.mil> mulvihil@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lawrence Mulvihill) writes:
>In dc.general, ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO) writes:
>> I also think that trying HOV-2 is a workable
>>solution judging by the current number of cars with 2 passengers.
>
>Then you need at least 1 out of 5 cars HOV to be at the break
>even point, as opposed to only 1 out of 9 with the HOV-3

So what?  Did it ever occur to you that even though you need more
people to co-operate with HOV-2 that many more people will in fact
do so?  For example, ask yourself why stores put items on sale?
Sure it takes more people to buy a particular item to break even,
but because the price is reduced, many more people do buy an item
pushing up overall profits.

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From: brian@cvl.umd.edu (Brian Miller)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:41:17 GMT
Reply-To: brian@cvl.umd.edu (Brian Miller)
Organization: Center for Automation Research, Univ. of Md.

In article <60206@mimsy.umd.edu> gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew) writes:
>In article <716000430.F00005@blkcat.UUCP> David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:
>>If you can somehow demonstrate that the majority of folks on the toll road are
>>somehow prevented by circumstance of their work to be unable to carpool
>>effectively, I'm all ears.  Otherwise I'll simply paraphrase Lincoln - you can
>I wonder how many of us out there have jobs with approximately "normal" hours
>who still could not carpool because of a frequent and unpredictable need to 
>work extra hours.  I personally would have a problem with a carpool bacause of
>this - just walking out in the middle of something because I had to meet the
>carpool would not be very good.

Bingo!  I never know from day to day when I'm going to get out of
work (funny thing about computers, they like to break between
5-5:30pm, usually on Friday...might be time to disable ntp.)

But many people have an understanding friend/SO they could pool with
that wouldn't mind hanging around while the fire is put out.
So why is HOV-2 so rare in this area?  The only place I know it 
exists is through Old Town Alex.  Traffic is still a bear, but 
the HOV-2 lanes on Washington and Rt. 1 are usually flowing 
with a fair volume of traffic. Anyone who does that commute now
knows it's fairly bad for us single drivers, but I shudder to think 
what it would be like trying to get to Arlington from Southern MD if
those lanes didn't exist.
brian
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy)
Subject: Re:    Miniature Golf Summary
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:24:00 GMT

Hain's Point is for sure the best I've been at..and cheapest.
I went to Cameron RUn right after they opened the golf..I found it too much $$
for such a BORING course!  Thumbs down.  You left one out!!  The indoor
course at the Old Post Office (OPO) in DC.  Pricy..but interesting..they also
serve pricey beer/liquor..but if you want to spend it..fun fun!  The batting
cages at Cameron Run are fun..but avoid the golf!

Just my input...

Xref: sparky dc.general:2200 dc.driving:14
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Council for Excellence in Government Criticizes Bush Proposal
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 20:51:10 -0500

  NA> Here is a press release from the Council for Excellence in Government
  NA> 
  NA> Council for Excellence in Government Criticizes Bush Proposal to Cut
  NA> Federal Pay To: National Desk Contact: Mark A. Abramson of the Council
  NA> for Excellence in Government, 202-728-0418
  NA> 
  NA> WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Frank A. Weil, chair of the
  NA> Council for Excellence in Government, said today: "President Bush's
  NA> proposed pay cut of 5 percent for senior federal government managers
  NA> is a seriously misconceived gesture aimed at tapping into public
  NA> antipathy to government and will be extremely counterproductive to
  NA> making our government work better."

  Various other stuff deleted...

Furthermore, Bush's proposal does not touch the salaries of elected officials. 
Apparently, the President wasn't in Leadership Class when they had the lesson on
"Leadership By Example" - a foundation of Bush's campaign theme of trust...

I must admit though, I agree with the theme of "Let's clean the House" - the
White House seems to be a good place to start...
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: Re: Weather forecasts etc. via telephone
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 17:03:18 GMT

In article <Bu0Fo8.BwL@netnews.jhuapl.edu> collins@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Skip Collins) writes:
>I recently searched the "blue pages" without success for a U.S. gummit
>official source for weather forcasts.  936 1212 connects one to the 
>phone company's recording.  Does anyone have a number for a NOAA or 
>National Weather Service forecast?
>
Try these:
  (703) 260-0307
  (703) 260-0705

Steve
From: cgs@snoopy.umd.edu (Chris G. Sylvain)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Two DEC RL02 Drives to good home
Keywords: DEC, RL02
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:51:10 GMT
Distribution: dc


If anyone has use for two DEC RL02 drives mounted in a rack along with
what seems to marked with DEC Model number BA-11, then you're welcome
to them (yes, free).  It is not known if they work, but it appears they
were cared for well enough that someone put a "Do not turn on.  Heads have
been parked" sign on them.  You'll need a truck of some kind to take it
away -- it won't fit in a subcompact car!

In case you need to know generally where you'd have to go get them:
near the MVA in Gaithersburg, MD

Send email..  or call (301) 948 5900 during regular
business hours only (ask for Chris Sylvain)
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From: gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:29:39 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <716000430.F00005@blkcat.UUCP> David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:
>If you can somehow demonstrate that the majority of folks on the toll road are
>somehow prevented by circumstance of their work to be unable to carpool
>effectively, I'm all ears.  Otherwise I'll simply paraphrase Lincoln - you can
I wonder how many of us out there have jobs with approximately "normal" hours
who still could not carpool because of a frequent and unpredictable need to 
work extra hours.  I personally would have a problem with a carpool bacause of
this - just walking out in the middle of something because I had to meet the
carpool would not be very good.
					-- GDD
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From: cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144)
Subject: Freedom of Choice
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:43:35 GMT

The Comcast Cable company I have just found out is not going to be carrying
the new Sci-Fi channel that is comming out or already is out. I have called
them voice and was told there is a chance they will get it next year, but will
not be carrying it this year. To say the least I am pissed! I have been seeing
advertisements for a long time for this and got excited and then I hear my
local cable company will not be carrying it. For a company with a motto like,
"Variety, Quality, and Choice" they sure don't live up to it when it comes down
it to. 

If you get Comcast Cable or are just pissed in general about what I have said
please give them a call and tell them you want the Sci-Fi channel as a part
of your service you're paying good money for.

Their phone number is 252-1000...
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: HOV - I vote Yea.
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:02:43 GMT

>In article <715903221.F00001@blkcat.UUCP> David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:
>
>>  JA> That's nice.  You're saying that car-pooling makes economic sense. 
>>  JA> But what does this have to do with the desirablility of an HOV lane on
>>  JA> the Toll Road?
>>
>>An HOV lane makes car-pooling improves the convenience of car-pooling by
>>increasing the time required to go from A-to-B by oneself.
>

The question should be: Does reserving 1/3 lanes as an HOV-3 lane on the
Dulles Toll Road have the desired effect of substantially raising the
number of people who carpool in groups of 3?  If not, the HOV lane has
nothing to do with the advantages of car pooling.  I have not seen any
evidence to answer yes to the above question.
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From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Newsgroups: dc.general,um.general
Subject: Re: Freedom of Choice
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:42:30 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Sep15.144335.6384@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
>The Comcast Cable company I have just found out is not going to be carrying
>the new Sci-Fi channel that is comming out or already is out. I have called
>them voice and was told there is a chance they will get it next year, but will
>not be carrying it this year. To say the least I am pissed! I have been seeing
>advertisements for a long time for this and got excited and then I hear my
>local cable company will not be carrying it. For a company with a motto like,
>"Variety, Quality, and Choice" they sure don't live up to it when it comes down
>it to. 
>
        	        	       	       	       	       	       	       
    Jones Intercable also will not, and does not plan to, carry the Sci-Fi
    Channel.  Jones sent out an extensive survey last year to subscribers
    last year asking what channels they wanted to see in the future.  There
    were specific channels listed and a blank space for subscriber suggest-
    ions.  The Sci-Fi channel was not listed.

    Jones has stated that there was little interest in the Sci-Fi channel
    and that Court TV and the Comedy Station received the most votes.  When
    queried about why the Sci-Fi channel was not listed on the survey, Jones
    refused to give an opinion.

    Wish I could subscribe to another cable service...

                                                               - Max

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From: gdrew@cs.umd.edu (Greg Drew)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Missing the point (was Re: Dulles Toll Road, HOV, and Air Pollution)
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:14:35 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Sep10.134253.22715@linus.mitre.org> woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke) writes:
>The point of the HOV lane is to reduce the number of cars on the road
>by giving carpoolers somewhere to go. I think it is serving that
>purpose. Those people who ride in carpools are now able to get to work
>faster than before. I feel that anyone who uses some form of
>alternative, more environmentally correct means of travel should be
>encouraged as much as possible.
>
>I don't think the government should be spending money to build roads
>encouraging irresponsible transit habits.  The government should be
>spending money on improving the mass transit system in this area and
>also encouraging bicycling. I biked to work this morning. My 15 mile
You seem to advocate bicycling as an alternative that would work for large
numbers of people.  It does work for you, but you might want to consider the
fairly large group of people who are disabled, suffer from asthma or allergies,
don't know how to ride bikes, or are too overweight to ride ("they should
just get into better shape is not always a solution - I've seen some of the
literature on obesity).  In addition, not every company has a place to shower
up after a ride in 90F heat :)  .   

PS  I do like the HOV-2 idea.  To find one person with a flexible enough
schedule would be much simpler!
					-- GDD
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