HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: must@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mustafa Syed)
Subject: Re: Ref: India/Tibet (China) Border Issues
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:55:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.202103.7726@cbnews.cb.att.com> izaz@cbnews.cb.att.com (sheikh.izazul.haque) writes:
>stuff deleted...
>> 
>> 	Will you apologize to the netters for posting WRONG information?
>> 
>
>this is certainly establishing a new standard on a net where religious bigotry,
>foul language, and all forms of <dark ages>isms are practiced everyday. 
>Surely misinformation ranks pretty low on the areas to correct?
>

	At the risk of being "overreactive" I would like to differ.
	To me misinformation, specially when spread knowingly, is the
	root cause of all the above problems and many more!

	Get rid of misinformation and misrepresentation of facts....as in
	educate people.....and you would correct most of the behavioural
	voids.

>izaz
>
>ps. i do think you're overreacting on the tibet issue...

	Your privilage, Sir.
	To me the whole issue of two biggest nations on earth( by population)
	at odds with each other due to misrepresentation of facts is
	a BIG one. To be a party to perpetuating misrepresentation of facts
	is simply not acceptable.....to others it may surely be "overreaction"!

	Mustafa Syed.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: imran@mozart.amd.com (Imran Baqai)
Subject: Anyone going to Pakistan?
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:05:29 GMT

Just wondering if anyone is leaving for Pakistan in the next week or so.
I have to send some papers very urgently. I will be willing to pay $20
to anyone willing to take my documents with them. I want to send it to
Islamabad but Karachi would be fine too. E-mail me if anyone is 
interested to:   imran@amd.comi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: murtaza@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTAZA HASAN)
Subject: Shair-Light
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:16:49 GMT


	I for one, am sick with all the Hindus and Pakis bashing each other
on the net. Let's celebrate something beautiful, and uniquely Subcontinental--Shairie. 

	GUL KO MAHBOOB HUM QAYAS QIYA
	FARAQ NIKLA BUHT JO BAS KIYA

                  -~
	(Mir Taqi Mir)

-- 
----------------------------------------

	The Existential Engineer
From: dchacko@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (Daniel Chacko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: The Origin of Western Thinking Process
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:26:43 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1993Jan22.144017.5389@prism.poly.edu> ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:
>>>    Christianity is the worship of Jesus, a human being.
>
>So is the ignorant belief of many muslims that Jesus is alive but he is human.
>
>Arshad Hussain

Jesus Christ is man and God. That is the Christian belief- pretty much
consistent across all sects. Faith is a calculated risk. Ignorant belief is
your loss (not *you personally, but whoever in general.)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: vagarwal@dis9002.shearson.com (Virendra Agarwal)
Subject: Re: The language on SCP
Organization: Lehman Brothers
	<1993Jan7.092131.30712@davidsys.com>
	<1iiabkINNkpq@shelley.u.washington.edu>
	<1993Jan11.170027.30724@davidsys.com>
	<dbose.726809740@sirocco.aem.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:40:43 GMT


   >But for me, I would ask that *I* not be addressed as *Dear*.

   >Ms. Merchant

--------------
	That is ONE TRACK MIND !! Why do you get IDEAS from the word "DEAR" ?
	AAP YUHIN AGAR HUM SE MILTE RAHAIN DEKHIAN EK DIN PYAR HO JAYA GA.
--------------

--
---------------------------------------------------------------
V. Agarwal
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: naufal@ocf.berkeley.edu (Naufal A. Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: says who ? says Faiz
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:29:02 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu


		GHAZAL

rang pairahan ka , khushboo zulf lehraanay ka naam
mausam-e-gul hai tumhaaray baam par aanay ka naam

dosto uss chashm-o-lub kee kuch kaho jiss kay baghair
gulistan kee baat rangeen hai na maikhanay ka naam

phir nazar main phool mehkay, dil main phir shamain jaleen
phir tasawwur nay liya uss bazm main jaanay ka naam

Faiz un ko hai taqaazaa-e-wafaa hum say jinhain
aashna kay naam say piyara hai begaanay ka naam

						-- Faiz 


Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:19748 soc.culture.indian:44931 soc.culture.bangladesh:7650
From: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Sham Hassan's Fan
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:01:39 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu
Summary: Be cool, you little fool.....Rafat, surely a non jests in earnest...
Keywords: Hang loose on the Caboose !

In article <C15uKw.K82@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Rafat Sadiq writes:
>   Dear anon, your charges do not even merit a response. You are a gutless
>person. You know what you have said is nothing but filth and are ashamed to
>let anyone know who you are. Don`t worry. If I had such trash coming out of
>my head, I would also use the anonymous service. I urge you to get see a 
>shrink.
>
>regards
>Rafat Sadiq
>
>p.s. Mr. Hassan, please do not flame this idiot. He doesn`T deserve your
>time.

Dear Rafat,

Could'nt agree with u more.......


Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: sburney@.oracle.com (Shehryar Burney)
Subject: Falcon 3.0
Summary:  Kam Kar Razi Baba
Organization: Oracle Corp., Redwood Shores CA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:06:56 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I saw a game called Falcon 3.0 in a computer store recently.
It is a F-16 fighter simulation.  If you buy the game and an add-on
called Operation Fighting Tiger (or possibly Flying Tiger), you
can fly missions to support Pakistani forces in a 
Kashmiri conflict.  My understanding is that you have to 
fly air-superiority and ground-attack missions against 
a much larger Indian force.

The game is for IBM PCs.  A joystick, mice, a sound-card, a fast 
CPU and lots of memory are recommended.  Sounds like a must-get
game for the more jingoistic among us.  Imagine shooting down
Indians in flames.  Even more fun then watching them play
international cricket.

Personal Note:  If anyone happens to get this game and takes
off on a mission from Mauripur AFB in Karachi, please bomb
Karachi Grammar School on your way out.


Shehryar Burney                 Oracle Consulting - Manhattan
sburney@us.oracle.com           (212) 303-3938
  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: an5372@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Shams Hassan Fan
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:49:23 GMT


X-Anon-To: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh


X-Anon-To: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh

Dear Sham (Hassan),

I really admire you. You have very progressive thoughts and go to the heart of
matter. I am sure even your mother was progressive. Did'nt she marry 4 guys
to keep up womens libration? I am sure she did that. She must have rejected
the bogus Quran written by oversexed bastard who wanted 4 wives for himself.
I must admire her for that. Is that why you are so perseptive, having the
blood of 3 different knowledgable mullhas? the 4 th one must have been an
American since you so loving refer to them as your father. All those 
Pakistanis and Indians and Bangladeshis are z-grade gutter mentality
people. I am proud of you that you don't identify yourself with such
gutter people who were your grandfathers.

I must congratulate you on the excelent suggestion you gave to those
bhangi/chmaars to control their pop. I am sure you will agree that another
excelent solution for the problem of dealing with 4 wifes is to cut the
**** into 4 peeces and distribute so each is satisfied. Is'nt that why you get
it cut in childhood? The forefathers were very perseptive I am sure.
But your mother did'nt have such problems, peece be on her. 

I am sorry for the Ruksana begum who said she was'nt your darling, thanks to
Alla. She does'nt know she missed a jem of person. I am proud you like
the company of bhangi/chmaars without feeling you are different from them.
You have good love in your heart. Have you cut your **** in 4 peeces or are
you going to be the progressive Hasan I admire very much and share your
begum with 3 other powerful mullhas? I am sure she will have sufficient
sex drive to keep all fore of you satisfied, EQUALLY.

I am your fan.

with best regards,





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Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:19921 soc.culture.arabic:6968
From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Attack Condemned
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:40:57 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:56:08 GMT



    TEHRAN, Jan 20, Reuter - Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei
blasted the United States and its Western allies on Wednesday for attacking
Iraq and said Washington would be punished for its ``sin.'' 
    Khamenei, issuing Iran's strongest denunciation of allied air and missile
attacks over the past week which Baghdad said killed 42 people, said Western
leaders had ``stained their hands with the blood of the Iraqi people,'' Tehran
Radio reported. 
    ``America pursues its Satanic interests in the Persian Gulf region. There
is no doubt that it will get stuck in the mud and receive punishment for the
sin it has committed,'' he said. 
    Khamenei, speaking hours before Bill Clinton was to take over the U.S.
presidency from George Bush, made no mention of the change of administration in
Washington. 
    The Tehran Times, considered close to the Foreign Ministry, said Clinton
had a ``golden opportunity'' to make a fresh start and end 14 years of
hostility between Washington and Tehran. 
    ``The United States and its partners committed a crime against Iraq...They
are so brazen as to enter a country on an imaginary pretext and put it under
severe pressure,'' Khamenei told visiting Lebanese parliamentary speaker Nabih
Berri. 
    ``We reject (Iraqi President) Saddam (Hussein) and his Baathist regime, but
we cannot remain indifferent towards the fate of the Moslem people of Iraq,''
he said. 
    Khamenei also reiterated Iran's criticism of the U.N. Security Council for
failing to enforce resolutions against Israel and Serbs while Western powers
used military force against Iraq accusing it of violating council decisions. 
    President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani last week denounced the first allied air
raid on southern Iraq as a ``shameful act,'' but also blamed Saddam's policies
for the crisis. 
    Iran, which fought a war with Iraq from 1980 to 1988, denounced Iraq's 1990
occupation of Kuwait and remained neutral while the U.S.-led allies drove Iraqi
troops out of the emirate. 
    A commentary in Iran's biggest selling daily Kayhan said on Tuesday that
Tehran should abandon its even-handed policy and clearly condemn the allied
attacks because the situation had changed from two years ago. 
 REUTER SIJ MZ JA 

--
From: 004445k@axe.acadiau.ca (FAISAL KHARADI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: RE: SHER TIME
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:03:21 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\|
\\\\\\\\\\\\
   nA ab wo yadoN ka chartha darya   (sort of high tides)
   na forsaton kee audas barkha
   bus ik(ONE) zara c kasak hai dil maiN
   joe zakham gahra(deep) tha bhar gaya wo



                                NASIR KAZAMI
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.india
From: mohang@netcom.com (Mohan Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Call fro discussion for new newsgroup SOC.HISTORY.SOUTHASIA
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:18:27 GMT


                         Call for discussion on forming NewsGroup
                         ----------------------------------------
                                     -SOC.HISTORY.SOUTHASIA
                                      ---------------------
     I do not know the exact procedure to do this and would like
 a few enlightened souls to inform/advise me on the subject of 
 forming a new newsgroup.
          Anyway, I would be very much interested in pushing for
 a group dedicated to the discussion of S ASIAN history(which is
 roughly the region encompassing India,Pakistan,Bangladesh,Sri-Lanka,
 Bhutan, Nepal, Afghanistan and the Maldives). It would be nice if
 the group could be moderated(dont know the procedure for that either).
 We would be discussing different historical periods and perspectives
 in south asian history. While history itself is a political subject,
 it would be nice if uninformed politically motivated half truths as
 we see in the "CULTURE" groups can be excluded by moderation. This 
 is such that the group be dedicated to the discussion of history
 alone. If the group has a goal or objective, it is to enlighten
 ourselves with a better understanding od S ASIAN HISTORY thro mutual
 help.
                       -Mohan
From: shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Shair-Light
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:52:55 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: shelley.u.washington.edu
Summary: Beautiful, indeed. But.....
Keywords: Hang loose on the Caboose !

In article <C17xK2.KL3@ecf.toronto.edu> murtaza@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTAZA HASAN) writes:
>
>	I for one, am sick with all the Hindus and Pakis bashing each other
>on the net. Let's celebrate something beautiful, and uniquely Subcontinental--Shairie. 
>
>	GUL KO MAHBOOB HUM QAYAS QIYA
>	FARAQ NIKLA BUHT JO BAS KIYA
>
>                  -~
>	(Mir Taqi Mir)
>
>-- 
>----------------------------------------
>
>	The Existential Engineer 
>

Dear Murtaza,

A two line masterpiece, no doubt. Pray, what Mir means by Hum Qayas Qiya ?
Also, Jo Bas Kiya ?

Though my Urdu is OK.But,.......
Any help would be greatly appreciated, honorable existential engineer.


Best Regrards,
Shams Hasan.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:19885 alt.visa.us:916
From: husaia@aix.rpi.edu (Atiya Husain)
Subject: Around The Corner
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:21:44 GMT



			AROUND THE CORNER
			      By

			Henson Towne

		Around the corner I have a friend,
		In this great city that has no end.
		Yet days go by and weeks rush on,
		And before I know it a year is gone,
		And I never see my friend's face;
		For life is swift and a terrible race.
  		   He knows I like him just as well
		As in the days when I rang his bell
		And he rang mine. We were younger
  		   then
		And now we are busy, tired men
		Tired with playing a foolish game;
		Tired with trying to make a name.
		"Tomorrow," I say, "I will call on
  		   Jim,
		"Just to show that I'm thinking of 
  		   him."
		But tomorrow comes- and tomorrow
  		   goes;
		And the distance between us grows
 		   and grows.
		Around the corner!- yet miles away
		...

		"Here's a telegram, sir." "Jim died
     		   today."
		And that's what we get - and
  		   deserve in the end
From: noman@mecca.viewlogic.com (Noman Hassan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: INFO: F1 & FICA, Medicare etc (Taxes)
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:04:55 GMT
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Originator: noman@mecca


I just started working for a company in MA and need some information
regarding Social Security and Medicare Tax. I am currently on F-1 visa
and have the work authorization (training) for 1 year. Well question is:

	1- Do I have to pay FICA and/or Medicare .
	2- If I should not be paying either or both of these taxes
	   then can somebody give me the document number or publication
	   which mentions that. I'll need it to convience the H.R. people.
	3- One more thing, what if I have already paid it, how can I get
	   it back, provided that I was not suppose to pay....

		Thanks in advance.

				Noman Riaz-Ul Hassan

nhassa@elvis.viewlogic.com			(508)-624-4914
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From: kirmani@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Syed H Kirmani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: LOOKING FOR ANTHONIANS (LAHORE)
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:26:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	Hi There! 
		I am looking for St. Anthony students in America, specially
the batch of '84 (o'levels), or '83 (metric). I had a lot of friends there,
so I am thinking of regrouping.
Please send me mail or you can post to the group
Thanks

Syed Humair Kirmani
Rutgers Id: kirmani@andromeda.rutgers.edu
Lehigh Id: sk0m@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu

thanks
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:19792 soc.culture.polish:4219
From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Model United Nations Conference in the Czech Republic
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:50:33 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

(If possible, please print out and post for people who might be
interested)

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations -- WorldMUN is a great forum for the discussion of 
current issues being debated by the United Nations today: 

Harvard World Model United Nations (WorldMUN) is an international
conference that brings together university students and young
professionals from around the globe to siimulate the workings of the
United Nations.  The second annual WorldMUN conference will be held from
March 28, 1993, through March 31, 1993, at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  

Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
Council, and Specialized Agencies of the United Nations, will discuss
issues from the actual UN agenda.  In addition to the formal debate of
resolutions, committee sessions will be augmented by presentations from
politicians, businessmen, scholars, and activists who have helped shape
the dramatic world events of recent years.

In this era of momentous political change, WorldMUN seeks to assess the
role of the United Nations in a new world order.  WorldMUN marks the first
truly international simulated United Nations where participants play the
roles of their own nation's ambassadors.  WorldMUN strives to teach
tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
the real United Nations.  These resolutions will be sent to the actual
United Nations committees.

WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
The Czech Republic.  The Hotel Diplomat is Prague's most modern conference
center.  Prague is both one of the most beautiful metropoles of Europe and
an ideal location for debating current world politics and the changing
role of the United Nations.

The Hotel diplomat is a luxury resort that offers restaurants, shops, a
night club, and fitness and spa equipment.  Delegates will stay at the
Hotel Diplomat for the reduced rate of 130DM/day double occupancy, which
includes two meals a day.

Delegate registration is $US60 per delegate.  For more information, please
reply to this e-mail address or write/fax:
Joshua A. Salomon, Secretary-General
Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02138-3810
UNITED STATES

Telephone:  001-617-493-6995
Fax:  001-617-493-6995

James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
From: abbasa@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: <None>
Date: 16 Jan 93 13:57:33 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Subject: Re: The language on SCP
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 14:43:10 GMT

In article  vagarwal@dis9002.shearson.com (Virendra Agarwal) writes:
>
>   >But for me, I would ask that *I* not be addressed as *Dear*.
>
>   >Ms. Merchant

>	That is ONE TRACK MIND !! Why do you get IDEAS from the word "DEAR" ?
>	AAP YUHIN AGAR HUM SE MILTE RAHAIN DEKHIAN EK DIN PYAR HO JAYA GA.

>V. Agarwal

No way my dear!!
tera milna khushi kee baat sahee  tujh say mil ker 'udas rehta hoon

Arshad Hussain
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: onf@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (omar.farooq)
Subject: test, please ignore
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:12:53 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: murtaza@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTAZA HASAN)
Subject: Re: Shair-Light
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:24:55 GMT

>>
>>	I for one, am sick with all the Hindus and Pakis bashing each other
>>on the net. Let's celebrate something beautiful, and uniquely Subcontinental--Shairie. 
>>
>>	GUL KO MAHBOOB HUM QAYAS QIYA
>>	FARAQ NIKLA BUHT JO BAS KIYA
>
>Dear Murtaza,
>
>A two line masterpiece, no doubt. Pray, what Mir means by Hum Qayas Qiya ?
>Also, Jo Bas Kiya ?
>
>Though my Urdu is OK.But,.......
>Any help would be greatly appreciated, honorable existential engineer.
>

	Maybe I should translate these two verses( which are only the first
two lines of a longer ghazal). The theme of the entire ghazal is summarized
in these two lines rather beautifully. 

	What Mir~ is saying is that he thought that a flower was his lover. 
The flower could be symbolic for this material world, a woman, whatever you
want. As for Mahboob, well, there are two kinds of lovers in Urdu: Real lovers( God) and virtual ones( humans). So in the real sense, Mir is saying that
he thought the world was his true beloved. (Like the little prince in the 
children's book). 

	Then he says that after smelling the flower, he realized the 
difference between it and the world. So his experience of the world
turned him off from it, and towards God. Alternatively, his experience
with love turned him off from this phony love, and led to back to his
true love. (Sounds like Kierkegaard)

	I could go on for days analyzing these two lines! 
Unfortunately, Poetry is too deep for the net. Especially alongside 
shouts of 'Kute Haramzade Ki Aulad' and 'Harami Hindu!' from everywhere. 



-- 
---------------------------------------------
"Where the tribes of man are led toward peace
 By the prophet-engineer"
( a poet at the completion of the Panama Canal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: hpa@merle.acns.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
Subject: Current Swedish government
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Organization: You must be kidding!
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:12:25 GMT

Skulle n}gon i Sverige som har uppgifter om sammans{ttningen av den
nuvarande svenska regeringen kunna vara s} sn{ll och posta den
liknande sammans{ttningen av den danska som just postades?  Det skulle
mycket uppskattas.

Tack p} f|rhand,

	/hpa

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