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From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Subject: Re: FSU 1993 Schedule
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:16:28 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne  FL


>I believe your correct; however, I do not have the official schedule.  From 
>what I understand, the Notre Dame games will be at South Bend and at a neutral
>site, most likely Jacksonville.  Notre Dame refused to play us in Tallahassee.
>They claim D.C. stadium is too small.  Granted it will only seat 62000+ fans,
>but I think it would be nice to see Notre Dame come off their high chair and
>play us in our backyard.  Side note:  it was great to see Notre Dame go for 
>the win instead of the tie last week unlike Michigan.  Does anybody
>know if we get to beat up on Michigan in Tallahassee?


Thanks for the info Rick.  I can't really buy into Notre Dame's argument that
Doak Campbell is too small, considering that it will hold 72,000+ with the new
seats being currently installed.  I think the capacity is at this point up to
about 67,000 and as a result a new record crowd is expected for the UF game.
Now I know good and well that Notre Dame had a home and home series with Air
Force and I doubt their stadium holds as many as FSU's.  I am sure that Notre
Dame has played on other occasions in stadiums holding less than 72,000.  If
they came to Tallahassee, Doak Campbell would be packed and national TV would
be there so money couldn't be cited as a factor.  IMO it is a lack of respect
for FSU on ND's part.  Same problem with Michigan.  We played at least 2 times
up there, played them close (but lost) in 1986 and spanked them last year, but
they refuse to come down to Tallahassee.  At least Michigan State had the guts
to come down after we pasted them up there, although they said they'd never
come again.  Something about the heat and humidity being too hard on the northern
boys.  Okay, I'm rambling.  I can see a slight justification in Michigan, in
that they can sell 30,000 more tickets for their stadium than FSU can, at what,
$25 a pop, for an extra $750,000?  But Notre Dame I don't know.  Anybody know
how many seats they have in South Bend?

D. Head
FSU '91
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Why did Syracuse waste so much time?
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:33:40 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1eml3rINN4ol@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu> ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes:

| Miami dodged another bullet at the Carrier Dome.  The key in the second half
| was the rejuvenated Orange offense and then the Miami defensive adjustments.  I
| still have to wonder about the strategy about using up so much time by
| Syracuse.  The TV announcers suggested that Graves was shaken up and needed
| time to regroup.  Was this really true?

Graves got sacked 9 times, and was pounded and pounded many more times.
He got bounced off the turf,  it could have been a slight concussion since
he puked 4 times on the side line.  Hey the guy came back into the game,
he showed he was a player.  

Syracuse showed me that the Big East is not the Big Easy.  

| 
| Next week, Miami faces San Diego State.  I heard that Marshall Faulk left
| the Fresno State game today due to an early ankle injury.

With or with Faulk, it's not going to happen this year.  Miami will be
the National Champ, unless FSU can get to #2.
From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Cougs Lose To Cardinal
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:23:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov15.222324.12453
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University
Originator: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu


Well, the final piece to the Rose Bowl puzzle was provided
yesterday, as Stanford crushed WSU 40-3, clinching another
appearance in Pasadena for the Huskies.

Early on, the Cougar defense stuffed the Cardinal on their first
two possessions, and even the Cougar offense appeared to be back
on track as they moved the ball fairly well, mostly through the
air, although only managing a field goal.  But a couple of critical
mistakes cost the Cougs, as Drew Bledsoe, streaking toward the 
endzone on a QB draw, was stripped of the ball at the 5-yd line,
costing them a potential TD and possession of the football.  Earlier,
a very impressive play by Bledsoe was wasted; while being grabbed and  
dragged to the ground, Bledsoe somehow managed to get off a long pass
to C. J. Davis, who had beaten his man by a good 5 yards, but the ball
slipped right through his hands, costing the Cougs a sure TD.

Although they were still in the game at halftime, trailing only 10-3,
the Cougs were quickly and convincingly taken out of the game in the
second half by the Cardinal, who ran up the score rather easily.  The
Cougar offense returned to its usual inept form, and the defense, which
has been nothing short of spectacular all year, finally began to show
some signs of weakness (perhaps emotional weakness more than anything
after watching this offense for the past several weeks and during this
game), as they continued to miss tackles throughout the second half,
allowing the Cardinal to move the ball at will.  Stanford played a nearly
flawless game, and clearly dominated, especially the second half.

The Cougars now probably need an upset over the Huskies next week in the
Apple Cup to have any hopes of a bowl appearance.  Hopefully they'll be
able to get up for the game enough to finish what has been a good year
on a good note.

Jim
Go Cougars, Vikings, Northstars!
 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Roll Tide down the Polls!
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:47:15 GMT

In article <jac1.721881957@Isis.MsState.Edu>, jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox) writes:

|> If Bama has really played up to the #2 ranking it has it would have
|> beat State's pants off.  The fact that MSU came within 9 says that
|> Bama isn't as good as they think.  I mean hell...we did get beat
|> by LSU and South Carolina.
|> 

  You did beat Florida and Texas on the road...

  Being #2 in the country does not mean you have to beat the pants off the #16
(or whatever) team in the country.  Being able to come back and win (especially on
the road) the way Bama did against a fine Mississippi State team certainly
says something about the team and further justifies their #2 ranking.  This was
the game which was supposed to decide the SEC West in all the preseason hype, it
lived up to it.  Coach Sherrill did an outstanding job at halftime getting his 
team prepared for the 2nd half.
  "The Tide found a way to win when they had gotten down and State was on a roll;
that's what it takes to win a National Championship"  Watson Brown




Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: smithg@a.cs.okstate.edu (SMITH GARY WAYNE)
Subject: Re: UT in Austin predictions
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 00:27:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.173041.4767@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>Mike (mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org) wrote:
>: you tell them Jay.  i wonder how many quality teams were on a&m's
>: schedule in the last couple of years.  also, most of these teams were
>: ranked when we played them.
>
>Yeah, we sure weren't (aren't) getting any help out of Austin, are we?

Or Baton Rouge.

- goober (that one's for you j.j.) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: How did the Illini choke?
Organization: American Math. Society
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	<1992Nov15.002056.16949@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
	<Bxrxn3.Mt7@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<1992Nov15.221545.26851@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:46:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.221545.26851@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby) writes:

   >agreed!  down with fichigan!

Oh, no, not you again.  The Return of the Creature That Hates
Michigan.  Why don't you go back to the alien planet you came from?
We're really tired of your same old anti-Michigan bullshit.



-Alan Harder
 
These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: SEC officiating: where to complain !!!
Reply-To: jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:12:03 GMT

In article <dkm2.722145722@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
|> 
|> 3) Auburn was cheated by the officials out of a final play in their game vs.
|>    Georgia.

  On the next to last play of the game, it looked like the Auburn guy stepped out
of bounds at the 2 yard line; like when he planted his foot, it was a foot or
so out, yet they gave them the ball at the 1.
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Georgia 14, Auburn 10
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:19:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.203105.3467@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, edmondso@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Edmondson) writes:
> <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Nov15.192722.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
>>says:
>>>
>>>Georgia 14
>>>Auburn 10
>>>
>>>This was a close game with a controversial ending.  
> 
> Also, Andre Hastings attempted to field a punt in the end zone.  He
> fumbled then recovered the fumble and attempted to return the punt.
> He was subsequently tackled for an apparent safety.  Did anyone see
> this on TV and get an explanation?  If AU had been awarded the two
> points, they could have kicked a field goal for the win, rather than
> run a play.

Hastings appeared to touch the ball on the one inch line, his momentum
carried him into the end zone, he dropped the ball.  He picked up the ball
and started to run.  He was tackled.  

I don't know the college rule for this.  Does anyone have a copy of the
rules?  Mark, Daryl??  A friend told me that in college ball a player can
run around in the end zone on a punt as long as he isn't rying to run it out
(?).  Another friend told me that Hastings called for a fair catch.  I guess
I need to get out that tape of the game.

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu
From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Another one? (was Re: OSU beats Michigan: 13-13)
Keywords: excuses, excuses
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:42:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov23.074233.11836
Distribution: usa
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman

In article <1992Nov23.071615.12225@tessi.com> allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:

>Since I live in Oregon, I get to watch a lot of Pac-10 games and the
>Washington loss to WSU was probably more due to weather than anything

(Sigh).  And here I thought we had exhausted all of the weather-excuse-makers.
Well, you may watch a lot of PAC-10 games, but apparently you didn't watch
this one too closely... the UW loss was due to a *great* WSU performance.


>else.  The game was played in Pullman, WA and the weather was:  cold
>and VERY snowy!  It snowed rather hard the entire game and both sides
>were doing a lot of slipping and sliding.  WSU just kept running the ball
>up the middle almost the entire game.  I don't think Washington would

Hmmm... just kept running the ball up the middle... so I must have just 
imagined Drew Bledsoe's 260 yards passing and two TDs.


>have been THAT bad if the weather wasn't so lousy.

Did you and Chung over at Michigan compare notes or something? :-)
Come on guys, enough with the weather excuse.

Jim
-- 
Jim Jungbauer                 |  Go Vikings, North Stars, Cougars!
jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu    | 
EECS Department               |  "Nice move by Bellows... big drive... SCORES!"
Washington State University   |     -- Mike Emrick, 1991 Norris Division Finals
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Hanley)
Subject: Re: Why did Syracuse waste so much time?
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 16:55:09 EST

In article <1eml3rINN4ol@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu> ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes:
>still have to wonder about the strategy about using up so much time by
>Syracuse.  The TV announcers suggested that Graves was shaken up and needed
>time to regroup.  Was this really true?

    During a time-out in the last drive Graves threw up twice on the 
field, so I can't really say he was feeling his best.  Graves' biggest
drawback is that he tries to scramble too much and doesn't know when
to throw it away, as evidenced on that last sack of the game.
    This was a game Syracuse could of won.  Everyone said SU had to
play perfect to stay close, but with a first half of -1 total yards
SU still managed to almost pull it off.  My hats off to Miami though,
they've got a defense that kicks some major butt.  With the loss the
Orange will probably drop out of the top ten, but I tell ya, after
this game I think SU could beat the snot out of a lot of teams.  They're
definitely for real.  I can't help but feel a 5th consecutive bowl 
victory on the way.

-matt

P.S.  On campus here one of the house had a sign that said "You can't
spell SCUM without UM (U. of Miami)"  After seeing the game I can't
help but agree.  The Miami guys spent a lot of time in the first
half being a$$holes.  The second half, however, SU got in some
great hits and their defense stomped 'em.  The Miami guys seemed
to shut up, at least till the final horn sounded and then they
all mugged the camera.  You may be #1 Miami, but you pale in comparison
to a lot of past #1's
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Big 8 Bowl paranoia
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:11:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.165400.3330@news2.cis.umn.edu> rownd@kelp.micro.umn.edu (Brooks Kerry Rownd) writes:
>In article <wilbanks.722463383@spot.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:
>>This is getting really weird.
>>All I can hope is that Gibbs and Collins play the "game to save the coach's 
>>job", that is, beat the living daylights out of Nebraska. And Colorado prove 
>>they belong against Syracuse/ND. 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?????????????????????????????????????????
>face it, Colorado STINKS this year.  A great injustice was done when Minn. 
>missed that feild goal and Colorado escaped the dome with a win.  
>Syracuse and ND and NCSU are far beyond Colorado's level this year

This is just like saying Miami stinks this year because of their 1 point
win against Arizona. I bet you have not seen the last few games CU played...
You wouldn't have said this if you had! I would still bet my money on CU
against both Syracuse and ND just because their offense is playing really
well now... Anyway, these games should be interesting.

NC State! They play football???!!!

>Be honest with yourselves and don't flame me, guys - I'm hoping against
>all odds for a 3-0 Big8 bowl sweep to salvage a disappointing, but 
>interesting year.  Go Big Red! Go Big8!

I second that!

>brooks@ast1.spa.umn.edu __/__\__  ||                          -Metallica, OWAM

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Teams in the Bowl Picture
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:41:21 GMT

Cliff - you forgot one (I can't believe I plugging a SWC team ...)

In article <1992Nov17.000854.8766@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:

>                        SWC
>Texas A&M                       5  0 0 152  76  10  0 0 278 145
>Texas                           4  1 0 161 129   6  3 0 259 227 (@Bay, TAMU)
>Baylor                          3  3 0 180 139   5  5 0 303 243 (Texas)

 RICE                            4  2             5  4  (Navy,@Houston)

Rice is actually ahead of Baylor in the SWC standings.  A win over
Navy next week gives Rice its first winning season in 29 YEARS.  A
Baylor victory over Texas and a Rice victory over UofH would put Rice
in 2nd place in the SWC ...


go yellowjackets! (the horror, the horror ...)

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu

Posing nude in _Playboy_ was "probably the best time of my life - except for
when I found God." - Jessica Hahn
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: harbinjm@infonode.ingr.com (Mitch Harbin)
Subject: Re: Roll Tide down the Polls!
Summary: can't take it
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:29:35 GMT

In article <jac1.721881957@Isis.MsState.Edu>, jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox) writes:
> harbinjm@infonode.ingr.com (Mitch Harbin) writes:
> 
> >No, I saw it in person, and you folks were green around the gills for the first
> >half and the fourth quarter.  Yes you did well with the wind in the third and
> >when BAMA tried the finesse stuff, (reverses and  such).  But then in the
> >fourth, we got back to smash mouth football and kicked your ass 10 points to
> >zip.  Ain't no luck to it bub, we make our breaks.  But then you folks should
> >have expected it since we kick your ass every year anyway.  Just sour grapes.
> >At least Jackie is pulling for us (I listened to his postgame show on the way
> >home) and at least he has some class.
> 
> If Bama has really played up to the #2 ranking it has it would have
> beat State's pants off.  The fact that MSU came within 9 says that
> Bama isn't as good as they think.  I mean hell...we did get beat
> by LSU and South Carolina.
> 
> >One quarter does not a footbal game make.  And I think Mr. Curry held is own
> >against a big mouth pop off.  James was right about some unfinished business
> >from last year and we finished it off last night very well.  By the way I
> >saw your freshman (under a pile of white shirts several times) and he did'nt
> >last long.
> 
> Yes and I do believe I saw Mr. Barker under a pile of Maroon Jerseys
> quite a few times also.  
> 
> >Just sour grapes. Coach Sherrill, now that's a man with class, pulling for the
> >conference.  Maybe he will go to a class school after this year.
> 
> What are you so bitter about?  I think MSU has alot of class.  I mean
> we went out and played hard just like your boys.  Ya'll just
> played a little better that is all.  Anyway.  At least Sherril has
> class enough to praise people that win over his team.  I don't
> think you possess that same class.

As I posted to David, I wish you the best of luck in the rest of your season
and in your bowl game.  It's just the best team won Saturday.  Bama did
what it had to do.  MSU should have scored some points if it was really the
number 16 team in the country.  If you think BAMA should have killed State
then maybe you think State shouldn't be in the top 25?  No, MSU is a good
team and showed it Saturday.  They just got beat by a better team.  I'm not
bitter, I just get tired of everyone slamming BAMA all season long.  I try to
support our conference teams when they play out of conference and I like for
them to do good.  It's also good to have as many SEC teams ranked in the top
25 as we can.  It speaks well of our conference.  I thought all along that
this would be the toughest game we had all season and it was.  But I think
that the TIDE was up to the task, don't you.
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:46:23 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov19.000743.28559@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.152425.12729@walter.bellcore.com> lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver) writes:
>>In article <Bxx2Er.Gn0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>>
>>Probably because they tied at South Bend - If the teams are even then
>>slight edge to Michigan for the tie at the other team's home.
>>
>>
>>John L
>>
>
>Sorry bud,
>
>but Michigan tied the Illini at Ann Arbor ... these excuses
>don't hold up.


Try, they both tied at South Bend, thus the edge to Michigan.  However, 
Michigan tied Illinois... BUT!!! Notre Dame LOST at home to Stanford, and
it wasn't even a close game...

-- 
David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: maxwellar@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: BYU-UTAH HYPE
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:16:12 -0700

Big game....
Big rivalry...

After a disappointing start (1-2 in the WAC, and 1-3 overall) 
BYU has a lot to play for this weekend in Salt Lake against Utah.

With a BYU win comes their 4th straight WAC champianship!!!

A win against Utah this weekend would be bigger than the victory over PSU.

Tune in this Saturday when:

Perspective 1
 
...the Runnin' Utes try to humble those self-righteous Cougars... 

Perspective 2
 
...the Clawin' Cougs try to teach-a-lesson-to those bad-boy Utes....
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best looking cheerleaders in college
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:30:32 GMT
Organization: .

(MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>> > >best marching band (I believe it was empirically proven here a few weeks
>> >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > 
>> > The Fightn' Texas Aggie Band has NEVER lost a halftime!!!
>> 
>> Is that because there aren't any ranked bands on your schedule?
>
>  Uh-oh.  We've been found out.  Now I suppose someone will trot out the 
>win/loss % for out-of-conference band matchups...
>
>
>semper fi,
>
>Jammer Jim Miller 

Yeah.  But when you originally scheduled The Golden Band from Tigerland,
they were a legit Top Twenty toot squad.  Can't help it if they went
South on ya....

--J.J.
reauxst the hogs!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: orourke@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael O'Rourke)
Subject: Bowl Possibilities for Kansas?
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:36:40 GMT

Does anyone know if KU is being considered for any bowl games?  I
imagine that they would be in the Aloha Bowl should OU lose to
Nebraska on Friday, but is that the only bowl that has expressed an
interest in them?  Thanks.

Rock Chalk
orourke@csli.stanford.edu

From: gregb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Greg Begay)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:31:37 GMT
Subject: Re: The NCAA Applies its Double Standard Again
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA