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From: gayle@atdiodie.cern.ch (Gayle Penrose)
Subject: Re: Villeneuve,Atlantics
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:20:19 GMT

Anthony Reid was the Japanese F3 champion last season, Villeneuve was the runner-up.
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From: jxr@nsc29teradata.com (Jon Robertson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: 1993 World of Outlaws schedule
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:47:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR/Teradata Business Unit

In article <1993Jan22.022902.22159@sequent.com>, dafuller@sequent.com (David Fuller) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan21.195750.24711@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> dobosz_m@wfooff.enet.dec.com (Mike Dobosz) writes:
|> >
|> >In article <deanb.727544057@pecan10>, deanb@cray.com (Dean Barker) writes...
|> >
|> >[looooong schedule deleted]
|> >
|> >Dave Burden asked in our internal Racers conference whether the majority of
|> >the WoO drivers hit all these races.  As I'm only a casual fan of WoO, I 
|> >couldn't say.  Do they?
|> >
|> >If they do, it's quite a busy year! 
|> >-- 
|> >             {decvax, ucbvax, allegra}!decwrl!wfooff.enet!dobosz_m
|> >             dobosz_m%wfooff.enet@decwrl.dec.com 
|> >             dobosz_m@wfooff.enet.dec.com               DoD # 0596
|> 
|> 
|> No.  There is a cadre of 8-10 teams that make 80-90% of the races but the
|> majority of all fields are locales.
|> 
|> Not even Sammy Swindell runs all the Outlaw shows any more, choosing to 
|> run where travel and purses make sense.
|> -- 
|> Dave Fuller		 	All opinions expressed are my own and not
|> Sequent Computer Systems	those of Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
|> dafuller@sequent.com
                                                                                 
      There's more like 10-15 teams that make the majority of the races and on
some legs of the series you'll see up to 20 regulars. The WoO organization foots
the lodging bills of the top 10 teams in points so that's somewhat of an incentive
to remain with the tour. Some teams will only make a regional swing (ie: west
coast) and then make it back for their local shows. The promotors also offer
appearance money to some of the top drivers knowing that having them in the
line-up will draw a larger crowd (although that's not too tough to do for a WoO
show). It's not uncommon for a WoO regular to be away from home for a month and
then stop by home for a couple of days and head out for another month. It's kind
of like traveling with the circus, it's a lot of work but it's also a lot of fun
(it's also hell on your family life, trust me, I know of which I speak).
   
    Jon Robertson
    R&R Racing
    USAC Midget #42 

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From: jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (Jay C. Smith)
Subject: 1993 IndyCar schedule (was Re: Latest IndyCar Rumors)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:15:28 GMT

In article <93020.175830RSMITH@ESOC.BITNET> <RSMITH@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>Is there anyone out there who has the current list of IndyCar dates.


Here's the '93 IndyCar Schedule:

 3/21 - Australia
 4/ 4 - Phoenix
 4/18 - Long Beach
 5/30 - Indianapolis
 6/ 6 - Milwaukee
 6/13 - Detroit
 6/27 - Portland
 7/11 - Cleveland
 7/18 - Toronto
 8/ 1 - Michigan
 8/ 8 - New Hampshire
 8/22 - Road America
 8/29 - Vancouver
 9/12 - Mid-Ohio
 9/19 - Nazareth
10/ 3 - Laguna Seca


--
Jay C. Smith
Domain/internet: jcsmith@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: frank@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (Frank Savaglio)
Subject: Re: Williams in strife
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, JCUNQ
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:27:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.151307.1@economics.adelaide.edu.au> ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:
>From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
>Subject: Williams in strife
>Date: 22 Jan 93 15:13:07 ACST

>Hey guys, I just heard that Williams are in trouble for lodging their racing
>application late!!  Apparently they have to get permission from all the other
>teams if they want to join the circus and a couple of them have held out,
>saying they want Williams advantage in technology neutralised before they
>agree!

>Anyone else heard anything?

A team the size of and with the resources of Williams doing something like 
that ??????

Man if there is any truth here it would be unbelievable
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Electrical & Computer Engineering
James Cook University                       *         *
                                                   +
Townsville. Nth Qld. Australia

E-mail: frank@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au              *

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From: mcclure@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Donne
Reply-To: mcclure@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 17:08:51 GMT

Kent M. McClure
Auto racing afficionado and member of San
Jose IPMS chapter.
My views are what they are, like them or not.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: gbg@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (gerald.b.green)
Subject: Re: NASCAR: Harry Melling team
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:51:25 GMT

In article <93027.094435BWF2@psuvm.psu.edu> <BWF2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>         Is there a Harry Melling team this year?
>         Chad Little was the driver last year, right?
>         And if I remember correctly, Mark Rypien
>         (from some other sport) was to buy into that
>         deal cause he and Chad were buddies. Any info?

Autoweek claims that P.J. Jones is expected to test Harry Melling's
T-Bird this week. If all goes well, he may run as many as 5 Winston
Cup races this year (so he could still have a shot at Rookie of
the Year next year).

Gerry Green
gerry@usl.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Mears to be Honored
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:51:31 GMT

From MTEG (Mickey Thompson Entertainment Group):

Anaheim, California -- While four members of the famed Mears
family will be busy racing on the Chunk of Baja dirt track at
Anaheim Stadium January 30, a fifth -- and perhaps the most
celebrated of all -- will be honored during a special inter-
mission ceremony in recognition of his retirement.

Four-time Indy 500 winner Rick Mears, who announced his
retirement last month, will make a special appearance at the
Mickey Thompson Stadium Off-Road Race, where fans will have
an opportunity to express their appreciation for his out-
standing racing career that began with off-road competition.

Mears, now 41, won the inaugural Mickey Thompson stadium off-
road event at the Los Angeles Coliseum in 1979, only a few
weeks after winning his first Indy 500.  He won both the
Baja Bug and Unlimited Single Seater main events, and his
older brother, Roger, finished second in the latter.

Mears will be presented with a number of awards during
intermission, and will join the rest of his family at the
traditional autograph session on the track prior to the
start of racing at 7pm.  He will also be driven around the
course for a farewell salute.  His son Clint, brother Roger
and nephews Roger Jr., and C.J. will be racing during the
evening's competition.

The January 30th event at Anaheim Stadium launches the 1993
Mickey Thompson Stadium Off-Road Racing series, and will 
feature racing in six vehicle classes including Grand
National Sport Trucks, Super 1600s, American Racing Wheels
Sport Utility vehicles, Superlites, four-wheel ATVs and
UltraCross pro motorcycles.

Among the latest entries filed with MTEG officials this week
is second generation driver Evan Evans, son of veteran Dodge
campaigner and 1991 champion Walker Evans.  The younger Evans,
27, will drive a Jeep Commanche entered by Ken Hodgdon.  The
truck has been fitted with hand controls for the driver, who
lost the use of his legs in a motorcycle accident three years
ago.

Although this will be his first stadium appearance, Evans has
had a successful career in desert competition, both before and
after his accident.  He is one of six second generation drivers
entered.  Others include Clint, C.J. and Roger Mears Jr., Brian
Stewart, son of Ivan Stewart, and Danny Thompson, son of series
founder Mickey Thompson.

Gates open at 5pm, followed by the traditional "Meet the Drivers"
autograph session from 5:30 to 6:30pm.  Racing begins at 7pm.
A motorsports Expo, free to the public, will take place outside
the stadium from 1 to 6pm.

-----------
bob
From: PHT007%SIRIUS.UKC.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Williams, FISA, Benetton, applications and the whole sh'bang.
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:11:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Well, Well, Well.
This is one almighty mess is it not. I Have a few thoughts on the whole
business. First of all. Frank should not have left his application until the
very last day possible. I know that it is common practise these days, but
honestly there is no real reason for it in Franks' case because he had
everything set up well before the deadline. So quite Frankly I believe that
Williams only have themselves to blame for letting themselves get into this
situation in the first place. Similarly trying to use a European dealines
guideline against FISA is not right, firstly FISA is a world wide organisation
that does not have to answer to European law (N.B. French GP!), and secondly if
he knew that the deadline was a sunday he should have sent it in on Saturday.
Anyway, what about Fax machines don't they have a date on them for when they
were recieved, and don't they run 7 days a week?

Onto Benettons action in the whole affair. They are certainly going to make
themselves unpopular with the top teams but may make many friends with the
smaller teams (eg Minardi). I for one (O.K. I will admit to being a Benetton
fan) agree with what they are doing. They are using the very system they are
trying to abolish to demonstrate why they want it abolished. I think we all
agree that 93 without Williams will be nothing but a Farce! But surely a system
where, theoretically, Andrea Moda (Inknow they don&'t exist now!) could have
prevented F1 doing something that all teams want, they could perhaps have been
the only team rejecting Williams application, what a Farce that would have
been!!!

So Good luck to Benetton, It is time for Change!!

Or perhaps they have done it to get Williams lucky numbers 5 and 6 ???????

Dirk Gently.


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From: gladish@suite.suite.com (Brian Gladish)
Subject: Re: Lawsuit over race tyre death
Reply-To: gladish@suite.suite.com
Organization: Suite Software, Dallas, Anaheim, La Mesa.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:34:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.125756.18413@news.clarkson.edu>  
taylor@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Ross Taylor,Peyt312,6652,2655436) writes:
> Just heard on the local (I live in upstate NY close to the St
> Lawrence river that marks the border with Canada) radio station:
> 
> The parents of a young female that died when she was struck by
> a tyre that came off a race car have filed a lawsuit claiming
> damages of $26.5 million!  The track concerned is in LaFargeville
> (not certain of spelling or capitalization).  I did not hear
> (not paying attention) whether the lawsuit is directed at the team
> the track, driver or some combination of any of these potential
> targets.
> 
> Now, while commiserating with the parents of the deceased, I must
> admit to some surprise over this.  I thought that you attended
> races at your own risk and there was no possibility for filing
> suits over accidental death.
> 
> Anyone else hear this ?
> 
> Can any race lawyers clarify the legal situation ?
> 
> Ross Taylor

Years ago when Mark Donahue died after crashing during practice for the
Austrian Grand Prix (early 70's?) it was determined that his crash was
caused by a flawed tire.  His wife sued Goodyear (the maker of the tire),
Bell (the maker of his helmet - he died of a head injury) and god knows
who else!  I think that the request was for $12 million.

Mark had explicitly stated, within a few weeks of the crash, that racing
was a dangerous sport, and that if he were to be killed, even because of
equipment failure, that no one else was to blame.  He knew the risks that
he was taking.

I believe (others with more knowledge or better memories might correct me
if I am wrong) that the defendants in the suit settled out of court and
that the sum of the payment was not disclosed.

Now, when the statements of the man who was killed were so explicit,
the dangers so obvious and the suit was still entertained, do you not
think that this girl's parents will be very successful in their endeavors?

Brian (not a lawyer)
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From: damelio@progress.COM (Stephen D'Amelio)
Subject: SCCA in New England
Summary: Anyone have any experience running SCCA in the Northeast
Keywords: SCCA racing 
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:57:41 GMT

I have an older mustang(1970) I'm trying to get race worthy
by spring. It will be a daily driver, built motor,
with an improved suspension. Does anyone know if
SCCA has something for me to run? What would I
need for safety equipment? Classes of vehicles, etc.
Any info would be appreciated, I'm awaiting SCCA
applications.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: dafuller@sequent.com (David Fuller)
Subject: Re: Williams in strife
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 06:52:19 GMT

Ah, politics.  Do you suppose racing will break out sometime soon?

ps: Had a grand time watching the sprinters run at Manzanita (Phoenix)
    this weekend on the television.  Low tech, certainly, but great
    competition and certainly entertaining.  Everyone seemed to have
    a good time.  Just thought you'd like to know.
-- 
Dave Fuller		 	All opinions expressed are my own and not
Sequent Computer Systems	those of Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
dafuller@sequent.com
From: vallee@taloa.unice.fr (Vallee Thierry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: New F1 drivers lineup for 1993 (Was: Williams in strife)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 09:27:35 +0100
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: taloa.unice.fr


AFP January 21, 1993 : official teams/drivers list for 1993 (from FIA)

         Team                       Driver
------------------------------------------------------------------
  #3     Tyrrell Yamaha             Ukyo Katayama (Jap)
  #4     Tyrrell Yamaha             Andrea de Cesaris (Ita)
  #5     Benetton Ford              Michael Schumacher (All)
  #6     Benetton Ford              Ricardo Patrese (Ita)
  #7     McLaren International      Michael Andretti (US)
  #8     McLaren International      * unknown *
  #9     Footwork Mugen-Honda       Aguri Suzuki (Jap)
  #10    Footwork Mugen-Honda       Derek Warwick (GB)
  #11    Lotus Ford                 Mika Hakkinen (Fin)
  #12    Lotus Ford                 Johnny Herbert (GB)
  #14    Jordan Hart                Rubens Barrichello (Bra)
  #15    Jordan Hart                * unknown *
  #16    March Ilmor                * unknown *
  #17    March Ilmor                * unknown *
  #19    Larrousse Lamborghini      * unknown *
  #20    Larrousse Lamborghini      * unknown *
  #21    Lola BMS Ferrari           Michele Alboreto (Ita)
  #22    Lola BMS Ferrari           Luca Badoer (Ita)
  #23    Minardi Ford               * unknown *
  #24    Minardi Ford               * unknown *
  #25    Ligier Renault             Martin Brundle (GB)
  #26    Ligier Renault             Mark Blundell (GB)
  #27    Ferrari                    Jean Alesi (Fra)
  #28    Ferrari                    Gerhard Berger (Aut)
  #29    Sauber                     Karl Wendlinger (Aut)
  #30    Sauber                     J.J. Lehto (Fin)
    
Where are Williams, Pacific, Bravo, Prost and Hill ?


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: ahe@cadcam.kth.se (Anders Hedborg)
Subject: Lola T70 in AUSTRALIA & NEW ZEALAND - info wanted!!!
Organization: Manufacturing Systems, Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:38:46 GMT


        -I'm looking for information regarding the racing history of
Lola T70's for the 1965 - 1971 period. Now I need some help with T70' in
Australia and New Zealand.

The following is what I have yet found:

May 21, 1967:	11th Australian Tourist Trophy,  Surfers Paradise.

   John Scott-Davies Lola-Chevrolet T70 Mk II G7.
   The car dns (did not start) as it was found to have a
   cracked cylinder block. I believe Englishman 
   Scott-Davies lived in Australia at the time.
   Any additional information regarding this entry,
   such as colour of car, race #, chassis #, entrant,...
   appreciated.

Sep 3, 1967: Rothmans 12-hour International, Surfers Paradise.

   Paul Hawkins and Jack Epstein took 2nd place with Epsteins 1967 Lola-
   Chevrolet T70 Mk III GT. This car was of course based in England and
   brought to Australia for the event. 

   John Scott-Davies and Johnny Harvey 4.8 litres? Lola-Chevrolet T70 Mk II G7.
   Dns as it dropped a valve twice during practice. Did it really have
   such a small capacity engine?
   Any additional information regarding this entry,
   such as colour of car, race #, chassis #, entrant,...
   appreciated.

Sep 1, 1968: Rothmans Six Hours, Surfers Paradise.

   Don O'Sullivan 4.7 litres Lola-Ford T70, dnf; spun in oil on track.
   Who was (is) O'Sullivan, what type of T70 was it, who was the owner
   and what colour was it? ANY information appreciated.


I have read somewhere that Hawkins before/after the 1967 12 Hours took
part in three other races in Australia/New Zealand. Is this correct,
and if so what races where they?

What happened to the Scott-Davies car? Did he leave it in Australia when
he moved to England again? If so who where the owners/drivers?

And what about the O'Sullivan car?

Where there any cars in New Zealand?

I am interested in contemporary reports, event programmes, articles on the
cars and copies of pictures. Of course I am prepared to cover your eventual
expenses.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!


Please reply by email to	ahe@cadcam.kth.se	as I may miss posted
responses to this request. I'll summarise the results in a later posting.

--

Anders Hedborg				Internet: ahe@cadcam.kth.se
Royal Institute of Technology
Department of Manufacturing Systems
S-10044 Stockholm
SWEDEN
From: marc.gratton@synapse.org (Marc Gratton) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: RE: INDY 500 SIMULATION
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:08:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: marc.gratton@synapse.org (Marc Gratton) 

-> Using the keyboard to control will get you nowhere in terms of speed.
->
-> The `perfect car' is fairly easy to remember, although I don't recall
-> what my current camber settings are.  But, basically...
->
-> Use the Buick, full boost, five gallons of fuel, no downforce, shocks
-> totally stiff all around, stagger 0.10, high tire pressure, medium
-> compound tires on the outside, soft compound tires on the inside, set
-> the gears to where they read 7.90, 5.07, 3.46, 3.40
->
-> Pull back the roll bars, to keep the car stiff.

Well My 'perfect car' is similar
stagger of .10, a wee bit of downforce (front 4th from top, back 3rd
from top ), high tire pressures, firmest shocks, 10 gallons( you need 10
gal. to qualify.... PLUS my best lap is always the 4th ), my cambers are
not the best for tire temperature, but I found the "PERFECT" cambers and
the car is NOT drivable. The only difference with you is that my 4th
Gear ratio is 3.60 and not 3.40.  I must also say that I use a keybord
and with those settings, I lose a bit of curve speed but only 5-10 MPH
( for a keyboard, THAT INCREDIBLE!! )

I'll try your setting and I'll TTYL Kevin!!!


Marc "The Turbo Frog" Gratton
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 Historical Question
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:37:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Chris Prael (chrisp@regenmeister.Sun.COM) wrote:
> 
> The disappearance of privateers from the F1 scene may be coincidental.
> Rob Walker was reporting on F1 races for Rod & Truck for most of the
> 70s.  I remember him stating in R&T that he had merged his team into the
> BRM team, but my impression at the time was that he did this for
> personal reasons, not because he was legislated out of business.  Tyrell
> did much better as a privateer (running Matra chassis) than he has as a
> constructor.  

I'd argue with the statement about Tyrrell, from late '70 to the end of '73
they were definitely The Cars To Beat... however Ken's fortunes were very
closely linked to Stewart's career... perhaps had Cevert lived the team
might have been competitive further on into the Seventies.

RRCW merged with _Surtees_ not BRM -- remember the Brooke Bond Racing With
Rob Walker livery on the cars? Very smart... 1971 or thereabouts, certainly
the season after Graham Hill destroyed his shiny new Lotus 72...

pete
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From: danjones@pyramid.COM (Dan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 Historical Question
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:29:47 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: xploit.eng.pyramid.com

James Montebello writes:

|> I've been reading Doug Nye's great 2nd edition of his History of the
|> Grand Prix Car and I've noticed that, around 1974, privateers like Rob
|> Walker simply vanished from competition. No one seemed to buy
|> "customer" or "used" F1 cars from the big teams and run them themselves
|> anymore.
|> 
|> A quick scan through Nye's book doesn't throw any light on why. Anyone
|> know? Was this a rules change or did it just fall out of fashion? I'm
|> inclined to think some sort of rule change happened because of all of
|> the trouble Larousse had with purchased Lola chassis two or so years
|> ago. 

I don't think that I can help you here, except that I think Hector Rebaque
was the last driver to run a private team.  He ran a Lotus during the '79
season.  At some point a few years later there was a rule added limiting the
number of entries that a team / make(?) could enter to two.  I think that
the Larousse/Lola problem was over a technicallity (sp?) and was controversial.

BTW, I saw in the recent AutoCourse that there is going to be a second volumn
of the book you mention above.  It covers 1945 to 1965.  I have the excellent
1st edition and look forward to the new volumn.  

Dan Jones