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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:49:28 -0400
Reply-To:     Dimitrios Ioannou <dioan@ROBOT4D.NUCENG.UFL.EDU>
From:         Dimitrios Ioannou <dioan@ROBOT4D.NUCENG.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Dream Team ( HELLAS )
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 Kurioi exw tn xara va sas parousiasw snmera to
dream team tns HELLAS opws ynfis0nke apo 29 a0-
lntikografous apo oles tis politeies twv HPA.

 To dream team eivai:
         Paixtns                       Omada
 1: Hrakleiwtns                Colorado State U.
 2: Petropoulos                San Antonio
 3: Gabrilos                   Maryland(?)
 4: PFK                        USC
 5: Maltas                     Maryland(?)

 Liga logia gia tous paixtes:

 Hrakleiwtns: tov perimevoume pws kai pws gia va dwsei
evdiaferov stn lista me to gemato favtasia kai
dnmiourgnkotnta paixvidi tou.
 Petropoulos: to iero teras tns HELLAS . To oti to
ovoma tou eivai deutero stn lista dev exei va kavei se
kammia periptwsn me tnv avamfisbntntn a3ia tou. Pavtws
twra teleutaia kai e3aitias mallov tns apousia tou
Hrakleiwtn exei dei3ei snmeia marasmou.
 Gabrilos   : kapoioi tov eipav to A kai to W tns
listas alla opws kai o idios paradex0nke auto eivai
teleiws avupostato. Paramevei omws mia upologisimn
movada opws edei3av oi teleutaies movomaxies tou me
PFK kai Mutlu.
 PFK        : n lailapa tou USC pava3ia katexei mia
0esn sto dream team av kai polloi 0a pouv oti pnre tn
0esn autn gia va exei ekproswpo n Avatolikn aktn sto
dream team. Oi movomaxies tou sxedov me ola ta meln tns
listas exouv dei3ei oti mporei va apodwsei akoma kai
stis pio avti3oes suv0nkes.
 Maltas     : o Maltas eivai to megalo erwtnmatiko. Dev
suvn0iza va diabazw ta mails tou kai tov ebala stnv
omada meta apo pieseis favatikwv opadwv tou. Elpizw va
mnv me ek0esei stov kosmo tns HELLAS.


Snmeiwsn : Yparxouv kai polla alla talevta( lege me
Stokas ) alla gia va ftasouv sto epipedo evos
Hrakleiwtn ki evos Petropoulou 0elouv douleia polln.

Snmeiwsn 2 : Guvaikeia omada stnv HELLAS dev bgaivei
gaiti to epipedo tou guvaikeiou a0lntismou para ta safn
snmeia avodou pou exei dei3ei paramevei gevika polu
xamnlo ( polu 0a n0ela n lista va eixe evav 0ulnko
Nrakleiwtn ).




Paratnrnseis , dior0wseis, upodei3eis sto
  patriley@robot4d.nuceng.ufl.edu


 Pat Riley
 University of Florida
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:31:56 -0500
Reply-To:     James Dimos Dimarogonas <jdd1@CEC1.WUSTL.EDU>
From:         James Dimos Dimarogonas <jdd1@CEC1.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject:      Ti egive re paidia?
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Stelvw va dw av 0a ftasei auto giati exw va parw muvnma ap'to sabbato!!
Koumpare,  av ftasei to muvnma kai to deis pare me tnlefwvo, giati to
diko sou exei alla3ei.

Dnmos

P.S.  Kai gia osous aporouv poios eivai o koumparos mou, eivai o
Avtreas o Stokas.  Eimastav sumfoitntes stnv Krntn prin 7 xrovia
kai priv liga xrovia tov pavtrepsa (kai 3erw oti polloi stn lista
0a mou peite oti kala tou ekava).  0a prepei kapoia fora va sas
dingn0w tis peripeteies pou eixame sto gamo tou.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:08:03 EDT
Reply-To:     Tony Hontzeas <lmctony@NOAH.ERICSSON.SE>
From:         Tony Hontzeas <lmctony@NOAH.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      MANIATES!!
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

>Sumpatriwtes maviates

>Gia va doume tn duvamn mas stn lista.  Pros to parov eimaste treis: egw n
 >elevn
>kai o Yiavvns.  Ase pou metis treles sugeveies tns mavns, megaln n pi0avotnta
>va bgoume kai suggeveis.

>O pateras mou eivai Dnmarogwvas ap'tov Kouvo (aposkiern mavn, votia tou gero-
>limeva). H mava mou eivai Xamodraka ap'tn kitta.  Gia va doume oi upoloipoi
 >apo
>pou eiste.

>Filika

BALE ENAN AKOMA, Avtwvhs Xovtzeas, Arximhxavikos Kivith Thlefwvia, LM Ericsson.

O pateras gevhthike sto Neoxwrh Leudtrou ,dipla ap thv Stoupa. Egw sthv
Athiva to '63 .
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:43:10 +0100
Reply-To:     Dimitris Kalles <dk@AP.CO.UMIST.AC.UK>
From:         Dimitris Kalles <dk@AP.CO.UMIST.AC.UK>
Comments: To: hellas@auvm.american.edu

Edo kai ligo kairo sti bibliothiki tou panepistimiou
trexei to PC-Globe me ta gnwsta aparadekta tou...
Opoios exei empeiria kai apopsi gia to pos mporei
na antimetopistei apotelesmatika i xrisi tou (diladi
an mporoume na peisoume tous ypefthinous na to
aposiroun) as steilei ena prosopiko minima oso to
dynaton pio grhgora.

Dimitris
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:15:01 EDT
Reply-To:     Constantine Hadjilambrinos <FNY31007@UDELVM.BITNET>
From:         Constantine Hadjilambrinos <FNY31007@UDELVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Kati boulwse

     Duo meres xwris mail apo tnv HELLAS!!!!!  Dev mporei, n kapoia epidnmia
epese, n kati boulwse kai ta mails dev proo8ouvtai.  Ta efage arage n marmagka
n 8a plakwsouv ola mazemeva;
Filika,
 Kwstas
  U. of Delaware
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:34:43 -0400
Reply-To:     Anastassiades - Advanced Rotorcraft Technology / NASA Ames
              <tassos@ART.DNET.NASA.GOV>
From:         Anastassiades - Advanced Rotorcraft Technology / NASA Ames
              <tassos@ART.DNET.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      IMF
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.bitnet@6913.DNET.NASA.GOV

Kai ena oikonomiko neo:

An kai den eimai oikonomologos, auto mou fainetai thetiko metro...
Kanenas pou "gnorizei", tha borouse na epektathei ligo;;

Tassos Anastassiades
Mountain View, CA

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Subject: Greece assumes IMF Article 8 status
Keywords: non-usa economy, economy, foreign exchange, money,
	international trade, trade
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 12:54:17 PDT
Location: greece
ACategory: financial
Slugword: imf-greece
Priority: daily
Format: daily
ANPA: Wc: 203; Id: z5434; Sel: xxfef; Adate: 7-22-350ped
Codes: yfefdxx., yffedxx., ybsidgr., //nf--f/

	WASHINGTON (UPI) -- Greece has agreed to refrain from putting
restrictions on payments for current international transactions, the
International Monetary Fund said Wednesday.
	The IMF said Greece notified the fund it has accepted the obligations
of Article VIII, Sections 2, 3 and 4 of the IMF's Articles of Agreement.
	By accepting Article VII status, Greece gives confidence to the
international community that it will pursue sound economic policies that
will obviate the need to use exchange and payments restrictions on
current transactions, and thereby contribute to a multi-lateral payments
system free of restrictions.
	Among the main objectives of the IMF are to facilitate the expansion
and balanced growth of international trade, and thereby contribute to
high levels of employment and real income; and to assist in the
establishment of a multi-lateral system of payments in respect of
current transactions between IMF members. In seeking to achieve these
objectives, the IMF encourages the elimination of restrictive exchange
practices among its member countries.
	Greece is the 72nd member of the IMF to assume Article VIII status.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:13:44 LCL
Reply-To:     Skapetis Lefteris <LEFTERIS@GREARN.BITNET>
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From:         Skapetis Lefteris <LEFTERIS@GREARN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Xalkino metallio gia thn Ellada !

>
>
> Prin apo ligh wra eida sto CTV oti enas Ellhnas a0lhths, o Valerios Lewnidhs,
> phre to xalkino metallio sthn arsh barwn , sthn kathgoria poy agwnizetai o
> Soyleimanogloy (xryso metallio).
> Dystyxws den prolaba na dw an to xalkino metallio , htan sto zete , sto arase
> h' sto syn0eto. An kserei kapoios perissotera as grapsei.

   Paidia ta nea einai asxhma. To metalio telika den to phrame giati
o arsibaristas mas sto zygisma (|||||||||||||) brethike PIO BARYS
apo toys allous dyo me tous opoioys eixe sikwsei to idio baros kai
telika katataxthke 5os. Poly krima :-((((((((((((((((((((

>
> 0odwros.

Lefteris

Y.G. An den kanw lathos, ena apo ta 2 nodes pou kanoun distribute thn hellas
prepei na kanei hold ta mails. Opote mhn stelnete pola tests epeidh
den pernete mail giati meta tha mpoukwsoume :-)))))))))))))))))
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:46:10 PDT
Reply-To:     Perikles Konstantinides <perkon%girtab.usc.edu@USC.EDU>
From:         Perikles Konstantinides <perkon%girtab.usc.edu@USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: sxolia yia olympiakous agones
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Comments: cc: hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu
              FROM XANIA" at Jul 27, 92 10:18 pm

Na deis ti ntoubaria einai kati Ellhnares pou aradiazoun
to puon tou egkefalou tous dexia ki aristera kai den
xeroun kan na grafoun thn glwssa tous swsta....

pfk
southern cal
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:50:57 EDT
Reply-To:     Kostas Kyriakopoulos <kostas@CAT.RPI.EDU>
From:         Kostas Kyriakopoulos <kostas@CAT.RPI.EDU>
Subject: Re: pfk@umuc
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

> Kapoios exupnoulhs ekane duo test sto scg me to
> header pfk@umuc.bitnet,

Re sy Periklh, les na einai .... o Karakolhs ? (esu'sai re Mhtsara ?)

> 0a mporouse mhpws o exupnoulhs autos na brei gunaika
> na lusei ta problhmata tou

Aman! Parakshga ! Mhtso ! Akous ti sou leei ?

> 'h, akomh kalutera, na exei
> to 0arros na grafei o,ti grafei me to onoma tou;

Xmmmm....

> pfk
> southern cal

	kwstas - RPI
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:22:27 -0500
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Subject:      FORODIAFUGH....
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Grafei n WSJ....

>>>>>>
The Finance Ministry asserts the biggest evaders are lawyers, doctors,
farmers and
businessmen.
<<<<<<

enw oi misthwtoi plnrwnoun to 72% twn sunolikwn eispraxthentwn forwn...
(oson afora tous agrotes plnrwnopun mono to 1.6% twn eispraxthentwn forwv).
Kata ta alla, oi suntexnies-mafies giatrwn, dikngorwn, agrotikwn
sunaiterismwn kai
mikromesaiwn <<mn pronomiouxwn>> aeritzidwn mplokaroun ton eksuxronismo
tns xwras...

Spiros
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:49:48 EDT
Reply-To:     jroufaga@RUACAD.AC.RUNET.EDU
From:         jroufaga@RUACAD.AC.RUNET.EDU
Subject:      Apotelesma Olympiakwv
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Apo ta apotelesmata stnv Arsn Barwv:

52 kila

1os: Ivan Ivanov, Bulgaria
2os: Lin Qisheng, China
.
.
5os: Halil MUTLU, Turkey
           !!!!!

  Lete va eivai $adelfos tou gvwstou Mutlu, o opoios 0a tov
ferei mazi tou otav 0a katebei stnv Washington va syvavtnsei
tov Gabrielato; -:)

Giavvns Appalaxios

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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:01:42 +0100
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From:         af501@CITY.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: xipetsismenos kourkoutas...
Comments: To: HELLAS@uga.cc.uga.edu, ucnick@SOCRATES.UMD.EDU

Poios allos 0avrize thn Ellada apo ton g.g tou tourkoproskunimenou
3enofertou AKEL.

Kala, mple3ame me fwsthres blepw. Molis hr0a pisw kai blepw 196
mhnumata. Apo thn mia o Poludwrou Paraskeuas kai apo thn allh
o Panagiwths, amfoteroi apo Canada (fenetai ekei paei h malakia)
apo thn mia o enas na leei malakies kai apo thn allh o allos
na ton sunagwnizetai.

Paren0esh. Panagiwtako, otan 0a bazeis thn Kupro sto stoma sou,
na to pleneis prwta me rodostagma, aliws na to boulwneis.

0a epanel0w, me apanthseis kai perigrafh twn diadhlwsewn tou
teleutaiou trihmerou.

Kwnstantinos
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:38:07 -0500
Reply-To:     James Dimos Dimarogonas <jdd1@CEC1.WUSTL.EDU>
From:         James Dimos Dimarogonas <jdd1@CEC1.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject: Re: Pesave ta Nodes?
Comments: To: HELLAS@BROWNVM.brown.edu, kostas@CAT.RPI.EDU

Yfos: Sav mouvi klamevo

      Gia des kairo pou diale3e
      o Mntsos va tov parei
      twra pou trizouv ta mail sta klaria
      kai bgazei o node xortari

          Dnmos - Alamava
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:01:52 EST
Reply-To:     "Katherine Vouvaris" <s925960@MINYOS.XX.RMIT.OZ.AU>
From:         "Katherine Vouvaris" <s925960@MINYOS.XX.RMIT.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Elhf0h

Suntagh tiramisou kai email sothropoulou, elhf0hn
Do not bother

Euxaristw 0ermws, Loukas
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:18:00 MST
Reply-To:     STREET CLUB DANCES THE WORLD FROM XANIA <STOKAS@ARIZVMS.BITNET>
From:         STREET CLUB DANCES THE WORLD FROM XANIA <STOKAS@ARIZVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      sxolia yia olympiakous agones

......
SXETIKA ME TIS PARATIRISEIS YIA TIN KALYPSI TON AGONON APO TO NBC SYMPHONO
ME TIN MEROLIPSIA TIS TILOERASEIS. PARATIRISA OTI AKOMA KAI AN AMERIKANOS H
AMERIKANA DEN PAREI METALIO OI KAMERES THA MEINOUN STRAMENES PANO TOYS.
ETHNIKO YMNO PERA APO TIS AMERIKHS DEN EXO AKOUSEI AKOMA.
MAS EXOUN ZALISEI TA ARXIDIA ME TA PROFILIES ATHLHTON TOYS POU MPOREI
NA SYGINOUN TA MALAKISMENA AMERIKANAKIA ALLA EMENA PROSOPIKA MOU PROXENOUN
EMETO.
EIXA TIN TYXH ..SYGNOMH ATYXIA NA DO TOYS AGONES TIS SEOYL TOU '88 KAI
H METADOSEI HTAN IDIA AN OXI XEIROTERI.

MPORO NA KATSO OLI NYXTA NA GRAFO ALLA EXO NA XYPNISO PROI AYRIO YIA
DOULIA.
PRIN KLEISO ENA EXO NA PO. DEN GAMIOUDE OI AMERIKANOI,DOUVARIA
DOUVARIA HTAN, EINAI KAI THA EINAI.


TO PONTIKI BRUXATAI....... YIANNIS MARKOU TUCSON ARIZONA
(APO TO ACOUNT TOU ANTREA STOKAS POU ME AFINE NA XRISIMOPOIO)
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:10:05 -0400
Reply-To:     "IOANNIS VELISSARAKOS ATHINA-HELLAS" <yiannis@WAM.UMD.EDU>
From:         "IOANNIS VELISSARAKOS ATHINA-HELLAS" <yiannis@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      MIA ERWTHSH.....
Comments: To: Hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

	Kanw mia anadromh sthn istoria ths Olympias kai twn Olympiakwn
Agwnwn. 0elw omws sto telos na anafer0w kai sto tourismo ths Olympias
kanontas mneia gia ta 3enodoxeia ths kai gia ta grafeia tou EOT sto
e3wteriko. Nomizete oti 0a einai swsto 'h 0a me kra3oun; Na to steilw
etsi xwris anafora se 3enodoxeia kai EOT;


	Ka0e boh0eia -oso pio grhgora toso to kalytero- einai kalodexoumenh.

	0a to steilw se newsgroups gia ayto kai 0elw thn gnwmh sas.....


xairetw,
yiannis
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:35:10 CDT
Reply-To:     "Kathy Nickolopoulos" <katerina@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
From:         "Kathy Nickolopoulos" <katerina@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Tragoudi
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Waiting For The Night - Depeche Mode

I'm waiting for the night to fall
I know that it will save us all
When everything's dark
Keeps us from the stark reality
I'm waiting for the night to fall
When everything is bearable
And there in the still
All that you feel
Is tranquility

There is a star in the sky
Guiding my way with its light
And in the glow of the moon
Know my deliverance will come soon
I'm waiting for the night...

There is a sound in the calm
someone is coming to harm
I press my hands to my ears
It's easier here just to forget fear
And when I squinted
The world seemed rose-tinted
And angels appeared to descend
To my surprise
With half-closed eyes
Things looked even better
Than when they were opened
Been waiting for the night to fall
I knew that it would save us all
Now everything's dark
Keeps us from the stark reality
Been waiting for the night to fall
Now everything is bearable
And here in the still
All that you feel
is tranquility.



Dedicated to the memory of Rev. Scott Jones, ?-July 28, 1992

Katepiva Nikolopoulou
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Subject:      RE: STOKOS ke pali stokos dike mu.

Av kai to header 0a eprepe va eivai "karakolns kai pali maurokolns dike mou"

O Mntsaras deixvei sobara traumata tns paidikhs nlikias.  As paroume karaxnv
to gegovos oti krubetai pisw apo pseutika headers.  Pi0avws mavia katadiw3ns,
n fobos sexoualikns aveparkeias (n kai ta duo!).  Kai to gegovos oti dev eivai
evas, alla merikoi pou moirazovtai to idio ovoma n/kai mnxavnma deixvei kapoies
taseis omofulofilias.

As e3etasoume omws tn glwssa tou.  H epimovn xrnsn twv le3ewv "skato", "pordn"
"kwlos" dev mporei para va krubei to gegovos oti eivai epirrepns stn
 koprolagveiopws episns pali kapoies omofulofilikes taseis.

Ap'tnv alln paratnrnste tn prospa0eia pou katabalei gia va favei "laikos".
"Mntsaras", "paidi tou laou", kai to pws avtidraei otav kapoios tov katngo-
rnsei ws "paidi tns mamas tou", dev mporei para va deixvei tnv apomovwsn
pou perase kata ta paidika tou xrovia otav to koivwviko tou peribalov tov
apperipte ws "spasikla", "bouthrompempe" n oti allo tov ovomaze n plousia
efnbikn favtasia twv summa0ntwv tou.

Oloklnrwvovtas (mias kai o xrovos mou eivai periorismevos), n omada pou
krubetai pisw apo to ovoma "Karakolns" deixvei to 0libero proiov mias
avelentns kai sexoualika katapiestikns  koivwvias, pou w0ei meln tns pou
diaferouv apo to apodekto "metro sugrisns" s'autnv tnv pragmatika lupnrn
sumperifora.  0a suvistousa stnv omada "Karakolns" va avazntnsouv va ava-
zntnsouv epagelmatikn bon0eia gia to problnma tous.

Filika

Yiavvns Dnmakopoulos
Washington U. School of Medicine
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From:         Bill Hunter <BHUNTER@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VM3812 and/or VMxxxxx package
Comments: To: VM/ESA Discussions <VMESA-L@UAFSYSB.BITNET>,
              Humberto <hjbortol@brfuem.BITNET>

On Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:05:47 BSC Humberto Jose' Bortolossi said:
>Greetings.
>
>    Apologies if my question is silly ... I'm just an end user trying to
>do some VM work. Well, now we are with a new computer, new OS and    new
>printers: 3090 computer, VM/ESA Rel. 1 and 3820/3827 laser printers  ...
>Thinking about to get a full use of these laser printers we decided   to
>install TeX for CMS. The TeX/CMS documentation says it's need a   device
>driver to print TeX output files, for example, VM3812 package. My doubts
>are:
>
>       (1) What is a device driver?
>
>       (2) is this device driver needed to operate 3820/3827   printers?
>That is, will these printers work without a device driver?
>
>       (3) is it usual to receive a device driver package when you  ins-
>tall laser printers?
>
>       (4) Which are the common device drivers available?
>
>     I already asked these questions to our system manager but I   think
>he has enough knowledge to answer me ...
>
>  (...)

We use TeX and 3820's and 3827's on our VM/XA system.  TeX produces as output
something it calls a DVI file.  You must then take the DVI file and convert
it to a file that is appropriate for your printer.  We use something called
file.  You then print the LIST3820 file on your 3820 or 3827.

On VM/xxx 3820's and 3827's are driven by an IBM product called Print Services
Facility (aka PSF).  PSF software consists of basically 4 parts:
   (1) a spool file conversion machine
   (2) a print driver machine
   (3) fonts
   (4) a PSF command which 'sends the user printfile to the printer.'

Our 3820's are owned by VTAM.  They are defined to the system as channel
attached SNA 3174's.  I am unaware of how a 3820 can function as anything
other that a VTAM device.  The 3827 is not a VTAM owned device.

Maybe the above will answer your questions.....

Bill H., The U. of Alabama

P.S. TeX also has programs that convert DVI files to postscript files for
printing on PS type printers.....
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:14:21 -0500
From:         HAMAN.HAMANN@IBMX400-DE.IBMMAIL.CIRCE.FR
Subject:      about troubles with TEX-fonts

An: 15369   --IBMMAIL  Liste VMESA-L at U

From: Lutz Hamann (Systemprogrammer for VM )
Betreff: about troubles with TEX-fonts

  Hi,

in my (standard) PSF-installation all fonts are placed on PSFMAINT's 194.
All SFCM's and PDM's are linked to PSFMAINT's 194 as 294 (and accessed).
So please check where your TEX-fonts are placed.
Hope this helps.

      greetings from Berlin

                                    ciao  Lutz