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From: v206gb6c@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PauL M SchwartZ)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Prof.X, his school, and higher education
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <92232.131615ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes...
> 
> A few amusing thoughts and questions:
> 
>     Where did Xavier get all that money to own that huge estate let alone
>   to rebuild and maintain that huge mansion? What about the neighbors?

    From his soon to be revealed evil daddy.

PauL M SchwartZ           | Follow men's eyes as they look to the skies
Future site of .sig virus |     the shifting shafts of shining 
v206gb6c@ubvms.BitNet     |         weave the fabric of their dreams.
pms@acsu.buffalo.edu      |             - RUSH -
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Magneto???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:12:57 GMT

In article <Bt9CBB.I1s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn ) writes:
>I haven't read X-men for a while, but while scanning messages I have
>noticed a few references to a "dead" Magneto. Is Magneto dead? If so,
>when and how did this happen?

He's not dead, he's just MarvelDead.  That means, even though he was vaporized
by a nuclear missile in (newseries)Xmen #3, he'll have his own limited series
next year. 
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From: mikebcg@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mikel Bancroft)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The Good Old Days Moved!
Date: 15 Aug 1992 05:36:45 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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In article <Bt0B4n.LAx@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.092403.58150@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>I remember some gal getting hurt or killed
>>I don't recall her name being Super Sabre, but I am trying desperately to
>>remember it in the first place.  
>
>I seriously doubt it was Super Sabre then, since SS was a guy.
>
>The Walrus
>

Well, the only possibility in the story was if the Scientist was female. I
wasn't entirely sure of his gender so I chose male (I'm such a chauvinist pig)
 :) Wait, I'll go check... 

 OK. The scientist was male. Some german guy. He got toasted by Pyro.
 Super Sabre, the old fast guy, definitely got decapitated.
 There was a female on the Desert Sword team.  She got roasted by Pyro. An
 eye for an eye I suppose.  That must have been the gal you were thinking of.
 She got killed in the X-Factor annual part of the story.  Hmm, I think that
 makes it a corpse in each part of the story. :)
 Hope this helped some more.

 Mikel B.
 "It's not the mileage, it's the make." - Cain

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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axly)
Subject: Re: Wolverine/Cable Questions???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:05:52 GMT

fogel@plains.NoDak.edu (Chris Fogel) writes:


> Hello everyone, I just had a few questions and was wondering if you could
>help me out.

>	1. Is there truth in the rumor that Wolverine actually got his
>	   claws from Apocalypse?
	
	No. That is if the current origin doesn't get retconned away
	like the last one.
	 
>	2. Is Cable actually Scott Summer's son?
	
	No one knows. Cable's origins are pretty vague. 
	Expect to learn more in his miniseries.

Axly
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: New Mutants nitpick...
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:21:28 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <65688@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>The question is, if Sam AKA Cannonball is an immortal (external, whatever),
>why was he not resurrected soon after the Beyonder killed the New Mutants 
>during SWII?

Seeing as how this gets asked about every other week, don't you think
it's about time it gets put in the FAQ?
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From: msr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Rosenberg)
Subject: Origin of Quote Question
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:27:11 GMT

What is the origin of the phrase, "Bang...you dead" and before people start
responding thus, it is NOT Gambit.  Although everyone remembes him for this
line when he used it against Wolvering after a training room session, he was
not the first x-character to use it.  Forge uses it in Uncanny X-Men
#255..."Bang buster.  You're dead."  (Well it's close enough).

I have a feeling this quote originally comes from somewhere else (a movie?  TV
show?)  I'm wondering if anyone knows where...

--Mike
From: v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Bishop's future...
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

How about this: Bishop is the one who betrays the X-Men?
He might get suckered into it by someone, might join up
with Apocalypse, or maybe Wyngarde...
                                     Just a thought...
                                     George Emmons
                                     Univ. at Buffalo
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From: ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson)
Subject: Rogue/Carol Danvers?
Reply-To: ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 09:16:09 GMT


A while back, shortly after Rogue reappeared from the Seige Perilous, she
was having a war with Carol Danvers for control.  The last mention I saw 
of this was Magnete telling Rogue to come with him, and he would help her.
Since then, I have seen no mention of what happened to the Carol Danvers
personality.  Anybody out there know what happened?  Did they mention it
in some obscure cross over or something?  Or is this just another one of
the (many) plot holes in the Xmen these days?

Todd

-- 
* Todd Hanson                              ba446@cleveland.freenet.edu  *
*                                                                       *
*     "No woman's worth a bullet between the eyes.. "                   *
*          "Depends on who's eyes.. and which woman."    'Bugsy'        *
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The Good Old Days Moved!
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:24:02 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>>>>	I have another question...  How did PYRO and BLOB survive when they
>>>>were fighting in the middle-east???  Does Anyone remember the issue I am 
>>>>refering to?  Freedom Force was fighting against Razor and some other semitic
>>>>heroes, and the Blob and Pyro, I believe were left behind.  Did they just drop
>>>>that one too ??? I thought they were done for... Didn't Avalanche survive that
>>>>or did he die?  I cannot remember and would hate to have to go fishing through
>>>>my comics to find it...
>>> It was the Kings of Pain Annual series.....
>>> Mephisto
>>Thanks Mephisto, but I don't think that answered my question...  As I remember
>>they left the storyline dangling...  Was it ever resolved and how???
> From what I remembered, Freedom force was sent to Iraq to extract some
> scientist for some reason (I dont feel like fishing through my comics either).
> Supposedly the orders were to kill him if they couldn't get him out. They
> ran into a group of Iraqi mutants calling themselves the Desert Sword if I
> remember correctly.  Super Sabre was decapitated and the Crimson commando 
> had one of his arms cut off.  The Desert Sword had the scientist and after
> that display, FF figured that they couldn't save him, and Pyro roasted him.
> Avalanche left with the Crimson Commando to the rendevous point with Blob and
> Pyro running interference.  After being rescued, Avalanche found out that
> killing the scientist was not part of the plans, so he decided to leave Blob
> and Pyro behind.
> Blob and Pyro surrendered, figuring that the ol' U.S. of A would get them out
> of this fix.  So as it stood, yes Blob and Pyro were left behind and Avalanche
> got away.  I dont think they have devoted any comic space showing how Blob
> and Pyro got back to the states.  The way the war went I figure the marvel
> plot guru's got them out in a prisoner exchange.  The however many thousand
> Iraqi POW's for Blob and Pyro. :)
> Hope this helped.
> Mikel B.
          		I guess I had just figured that Razor and those other
arabian heroes were so P.O.ed that they would have sliced and diced the two
rather than accept their surrender.  I remember some gal getting hurt or killed
I don't recall her name being Super Sabre, but I am trying desperately to
remember it in the first place.  
	I am glad AVALANCHE is still around, and hope he can show up soon,
in something (and not be killed) because he's one of my very favorites!
							
						wReam...

P.S.  Thanks...
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: What happenned to Nimrod (Was: Re: The Good Old Days Moved!)
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:36:21 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug12.212333.22006@gdwest.gd.com>, good@gdwest.gd.com (David L. Good) writes:
> In article <1992Aug10.171748.58035@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
> [snip, snip, snip...]
>>  I hope they don't kill off the following either... 
> [...]
>>Nimrod :  Where is he?  I wouldn't mind seeing him blown up, or at least I 
>>felt this way, but now I don't know... Maybe if he killed gambit or something
>>attrocious like that I wouldn't mind him being destroyed.
>>							wReam...
> 
> Didn't he get sucked into the "Super Sentinel" that caused all the X-men to
> hop through the Seige Perilous (tm) a while back?
> 
> -- 
> David Good                                               good@gdwest.gd.com
> 
>                  This space intentionally left blank.
	I dunno?  My brother was collecting the X-men at that time and I was
away in Rome, Italy...  When I got back, two years later, the Xmen had gotten
REALLY stupid and hard to follow, so I sorta skimmed the books... I'll
have to go check and see... However that does present a problem since my 
brother is in Brazil and his comics are packed away in the attack... I guess
someone will needs look it up for me!  Please!!!  :)
							wReam...

P.S.  Bags his comics and is proud of it!  (Especially when spilling on them!)
After all have you ever tried to read a strawberry soda shehulk???


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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:47:30 -0400 
From: "David M. Pahnos" <dp0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cable -- did 501 man create him?

Just curious here -- did Rob Liefield create the now infamous
Retro-active man, Cable, who's been in Marveldom all along
but we just haven't noticed him?

Scott


yes, with a little help (reluctant at that).  Weezie Simonson (?) on her
run with new mutants, wanted to create a Commander X (the working name)
a sort of Magneto/Xavier hybrid with a grim-n-gritty edge to him.  I
think Liefield had Cable in his doodle archives and presented him, then
during the production of the series, took great liberties with the
character (like he did, much to her chagrin) and his importance making
just left-of-bad writing even-worse.  The rest is history (including
Cable's prefab one).

Is Kang/RamaTut a mutant?  If he is, perhaps he could be shown to be
responsible for all this Future Past Present and Future, and his actions
may just yet rid us of Cable.

michael j pastor iii
guest on davids account
who admits that Cable is a good concept with the ultimate in poor execution.
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From: gtm1@cec2.wustl.edu (Gareth Torrey Munger)
Subject: what happened to Amanda Stephan??????
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:31:38 GMT

	What every happened to Amanda Stephan? Kurt W. SO.  or I
should say ex-SO.  I heard she was involved with some of the
muir Island stuff, but what exactully is She doing now?



The Tigerdragon


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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Dan Elmoe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Comic Creators Network
Date: 13 Aug 92 00:11:13 GMT
Organization: The Democrats' Best Hope in '96
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X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <9208112130.AA07069@lynx.frame.com>, jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew) writes:
> I've been bantering about the idea of proposing rec.arts.comics.creative.
> Perhaps creating it as a mailing list and declaring it to be an electronic
> APA would be more appropriate.  This would provide an appropriate place for
> the initial display of items such as Ryan's "Dirty Pair" stories and the
> Legion of Substitute Writers materials threatening to flow out of Omnicom,
> the Electronic Legion APA (from which springs the idea of an electronic APA).
> Materials with a comics bent intended for non-net goals, such as Connie's "Kid
> Dynamo" and my distribution of Marc Lynx' stories would also be nice to see
> there.
> 
> If other people are interested in pursuing a mailing list, or an electronic
> APA, or a small-press distribution group, or a 'zine, or whatever, count me
> in.  While I'm unable to serve as a mailing list site, I could be coerced into
> serving as an APA "central mailer" and production person with little effort.
> 
	Bill Hayes of Comics-L is supposedly putting together a Comics Writers
Workshop mailing list, an electronic equivalent to the real-life writers'
workshops offered throughout the land.  I haven't heard back from him on 
my audition, though; I think he's on some sort of vacation.
-- 
"Sensible and responsible women do not want to vote."                          
--Grover Cleveland, 1905                                                       
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: daikerjohnc@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: SHADE/DOOM PATROL/HELP!!!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:32:36 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

     Hello World, I'm back from the summer. I'm sure you're all thrilled to 
pieces. 
     
     I've been away from the terminal for the entire summer, so bear with me. I
have something to say. 

     Shade the Changing Man is one of the best books I've ever read, IMHO.

     I wasn't sure if I should buy it or not when I first saw it. I'm currently
trying to collect the entire Doom Patrol series (and am looking for all the
Doom Patrol's guest appearances, also. I know there was a cameo in "The
Extinction Agenda" in JLI, and if anyone knows any others, please tell me!) 
and didn't think I could afford to retrace the entire series. Then I saw
issues #'s 1-10 on sale for $14.95...

     I'm now on # 14 and am hooked (fish police...hooked...never mind.).
I just need to know, are there any other Shade fans out there?
If so, tell me! If not, tell me why! I need to know if it gets better, or does 
it bomb towards the current issue?  Backtracking is an expensive habit, and the
Doom Patrols alone are expensive enough. 

     BTW, what are the future plans for the Doom Patrol?
I read that only one member survives this current storyline, and if it's not
Cliff, I will be P.O.'ed something fierce. I mean, it was bad enough killing
off Rebis. Jane's next, right? As for the Chief, Doom Force be Chucked, I don't
EVER wanna see HIM again. But, with his head in cryogenic freeze, he might be
the only survivor. If a robot could save his life then, why not now?
I could just see Cliff's body automatically hooking the Chief's head up to the
think tank, then deleting all the disks with Cliff's "soul" on them while
Cliff's personality looked on helplessly through his eyes.  

     "Just like killing an old friend." The Chief. Quote, unquote.  

     Who knows what the Chief programmed into that body?

     Write and let me know. 

     Thanks.




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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Worse Comics of all Time
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:36:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.182734.21520@pacdata.uucp> jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins) writes:
>
>> Has anyone but me noticed that NONE of the Spiderman titles are any good?
>Has anyone but me noticed that NONE of the Marvel titles are any good?

X-Factor and Hellraiser are good... everything else is worthless, though. 
I now spend my money on back issues and reprints.
-- 
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From: mbkomor@anableps.berkeley.edu (M. Beth Komor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Mike Jittlov (was Re: Worst Comic Books of All Time)
Date: 16 Aug 1992 09:59:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Summary: eeeK!  :)
Keywords: heh.

In article <jittlov.713694687@gumby.cs.caltech.edu> jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov) writes:
                                                                          
>[...] drawn the hard way, [...] all from distant memory).
>[...]
>in the style of a combined Jack Kirby and Al Williamson.  Looked pretty
>good, some fun subliminals.  And amazingly similar to [...]
                                                                          
>I also have this sig.
                                                                       
>o================================o:; ,::::,*.:::::.*.::::::::::::
>|   Mike Jittlov - Wizard, etc   |';* ';;'..`::::'   `:*`:;::::::
>|  jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu  |;.;+,  '* ```:'o   o `   `::;::
>|    Hollywood, CA 90026-2714    |,',.::.. .' .' |\^/|:. `*:.. `*
>| (213) No-Human (noon, to moon) |...May All Your \Y/ Good Dreams
>| (Please allow 1 yr 4 response) |and Fine Wishes /_\ Come True:)
>o================================o===============_/ \_===========
                                                                          
>(Hi, Mmmbk!)



mmmMike! --you've made me a *net.babe*!

*floomph!* wizard!


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Subject: Re: Image
From: asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto)
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:49:11 GMT
Reply-To: asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto)
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center


In article <1992Aug15.050708.25499@sol.UVic.CA>,
jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug14.145444.15510@urbana.mcd.mot.com>
asoto@dacapo.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Anthony Soto) writes:
|>>thing has been true of all of the Image books (except Youngblood) so
far, the
|>>coloring is phenomenal. I've been very impressed with the job that's
been done 
|>>on the coloring of all the books. The coloring in Brigade even made
Liefeld's
|>>artwork appealing to my eye.

|> Liefeld didn't do any of the art in Brigade.  Check the credits again.

Thanks for pointing that out. I was starting to think that maybe my taste in
artwork was faltering. :-)
					Tony
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: Spidey 2099
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:24:20 GMT

In article <BsvtFB.BwB@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deus Imperator) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.195113.20409@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug11.165506.14551@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> stailey@comm.mot.com writes:
>>>
>>> From what I remember... Peter told us at the Chicago Comicon that
>>> the new Spiderman will gain his powers from some kind of genetic
>>> experimentation. He will also be mutating from time to time. The 
>>> real interesting thing is that his webs do not come from shooters
>>> rather they ooze from the pores in his body. The book is written
>>> by Peter David with art by Rick Leonardi. 
>>>
>>
>>I think for the sake of realism, Spiderman of 2099 should shoot
>>out his webs from the bottom of the abdomen in the same manner
>>a spider does.
>>
>Well, there's three problems with the above.  The first has to do with
>"for the sake of realism."  Comics, no matter how you slice it, are just
>not "real."  The second is minor, but should be noted for those who are 
>interested in a "realistic" comic.  The "webs out of the butt" was done
>in Marshall Law takes Manhattan, an excellent look at a what if world, as
>in what if powers had to follow "reality."  Thus we have a Mr. Fantastic
>who, to stretch, must break the bone, move it apart, and then regrow 
>it.  With all the resulting pain, of course.  Trust me, webs from the 
>abdomen is just plain stupid-looking.]
>	Finally, we come to the core, which is that for Spiderman to be
>real, he must shoot webbing from the abdomen.  This is true for the first,
>but as I understand it, Spiderman is a product of genetic engineering, a
>science accelelrated 100 years beyond our meagre knowledge.  We know today
>that when the HIV virus invades the body, it enters the body's lymph nodes, and
>rewrites their DNA, making them HIV factories, rather than immune system 
>factories.  Scraping this gem from the horror that is AIDS, we can take "
>"Useless" and redundant organs, and rewrite them with new instructions.  
>The appendix producing insulin in a diabetic.  Some lymph nodes being rewired
>for adrenalin.  The possibilities are limitless.  Is horse adrenalin better
>than human?  Rewrite for horse!  The supersoldier is not such a far-fetched 
>idea.  To get back to the point, we can take SM 2099's sweat glands, and
>rewrite them for spinnerets.  Instant webbing.  Sure it's all in the future,
>but when you have 100 years, anything is possible.  
>
>-- 
>Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Everything But Love tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>"Oh God, does this mean we have to fight?"
>			-Selina Kyle, _Batman_ 



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