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From: lairdb@crash.cts.com (Laird P. Broadfield)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Sondheim: Merrily We Roll Along
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:58:49 GMT
Organization: "Well, a head on top, an arm on each side, two legs...."

In <C13y1x.FIz@acsu.buffalo.edu> chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (John C. Chu) writes:
>In article <C13w2G.6Dv@news.udel.edu> conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
>>AGAIN??  Please fill us in on this when you know more.  I thought they
>>were sticking with the revisions done for DC, with the opening number
>>(after a prolog on the rooftop) being "That Frank."

>Unless I misread you, the opening number isn't "That's Frank", it's
>the title song. I remember it being really incongruous to do the
>rooftop scene, have the principles freeze, have the rest of the cast
>come on in formal evening wear then start singing Merrily We Roll
>Along.

Wait a minute; as I recall the LaJolla production, there was an opening
rooftop scene to set up the characters, and the title song (and slide
show) was sung just long enough for the wagon change to the Frank's
House set (then dialog, dialog, That Frank.)  The title song was used
along with the slides in this way for most scene changes.  Has this 
been changed around again?


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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Answer to Into the Woods Trivia
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:07:48 GMT

conrad@brahms.udel.edu  writes:
> In article <1993Jan21.120040.10224@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
> 
> >	Well, I guess there were no takers on my Into the Woods
> >trivia question: WHEN does it take place?
> 
> >The answer: the 1700's.
> 
> >Proof:  The show cannot take place later, since it is
> >obviously a pre-industrial revolution setting.  
> 
> This latter point is not obvious to me.  Please give your proof.  Plenty
> of places did not show immediate visible results of the industial
> revolution -- it wasn't a worldwide instantaneous sweep.
> 
> Also, I have read that the original designers chose the early 19th
> century for their costuming, as the one that best fit the look they
> wanted.  (With one conscious anachronism, Bernadette Peters's Belle
> Epoque white gown right after her transformation; none of the other
> witches who followed her used this gown.)
> 
> >Also, the Grimm
> >brothers assembled their fairy tales in the first decade of the
> >19th century.
> 
> So what?  They aren't characters in the story.  We're talking about when
> the stories "really" happened.  :-)
> 
> >You also have to wonder why
> >Europeans are referring to maize as corn
> 
> No I don't.  The words we hear are translations into our usage, from
> whatever language the characters were "really" speaking.
> 
> So I say, shortly after 1800, because the princes are wearing trousers,
> not breeches.
> 
> Jon Alan Conrad

	Who cares what the original costume designer did?  The
script doesn't call for "trousers, not breeches".  If the Grimm
brothers don't matter, than the whims of the original costume
designer shouldn't.
						-Quinn
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From: mckenzi@ecf.toronto.edu (MCKENZIE ROBERT NEIL)
Subject: Re: Colm Wilkinson/Toronto
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: rec.arts.theatre
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:59:44 GMT


Colm Wilkinson has been contracted for an indefinite run. He does take some
shows off, usually early in the week. Unless he takes a long vacation, you
shouldn't have any problem seeing him this spring. Be sure to ask the
Box Office at the Pantages if he is scheduled to be there for the performance
you wish to see.

Someone in the show told me that despite the tough times, Phantom still
averages > 95% houses. It's safe to say the Phantom will be haunting Ontario
for a few years yet.

Robert N. McKenzie
mckenzi@skule.ecf.toronto.edu
From: chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (John C. Chu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Original cast recording of "Follies"
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:06:22 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1993Jan22.154637.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> arndt_w@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>But with all of these recordings, there's still
>missing music.  Whatever happened, for instance, to "Tango D'Amour"?  I
>remember it vividly from the show, but I cannot recall the music.

(Nit-picky point: I haven't looked at the score in years, but I think
it's "Bolero D'Amour" No big deal.) Anyways, since the London
recording proports to be the first complete recording of the score, my
guess is they cut it from the show. Why it isn't on the Concert
recording, I have no idea.  It's not as if they were running short on
disc space...

					john
				chu@acsu.buffalo.edu
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From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Subject: Re: Latest from Playbill...
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:41:26 GMT
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Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1993Jan19.181222.589@zeus.ieee.org> jcichock@ep.ieee.org (J Cichocki) writes:
>In article 17880@Virginia.EDU, qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>>      I could've sworn that Annie 2 is slated for the Eugene
>> O'Neill.  Oh, well.
>So did I. Isn't that the theratre that Annie opened in? I think that is why the
>producers want Annie Warbucks to open there. Has anyone seen AW yet anywhere? I could
>just see Annie standing in the middle of a crowded stage where everyone looks perplexed
>or just down starting to sing...
>
>   The sun will come out tomorrow...
>
>and someone yelling "oh shut up!!"
>
>To me, I think that would be hilarious.

First, Annie was at the Alvin Theatre, now known as the Neil Simon. I 
believe this is where Annie Warbucks will be as well.

Next, your "oh shut up" story reminds me of a preview performance of the 
musical version of "The Little Prince and the Aviator" that I saw many years 
ago (actually, previews are all that anyone ever saw, it closed before 
opening night).  It starred Michael York (didn't know he could sing, eh?  He 
can't).  Anyway, the kid who played the lead kept singing this insipid 
sunset song, it was awful.  So finally, maybe 2.5 or 3 hours into the play, 
he asks as one of his lines "does anyone want to hear my sunset song?".  I 
swear, it seemed like the entire audience said "NO!".  Alas, he sang it 
anyway.  

-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
From: norbeck@pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: CHESS: What really happened on stage?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 17:25:34 GMT
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In article <1993Jan24.083151.3831@leland.Stanford.EDU> calliope@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanna Salgado) writes:

>
>Me three...Oh, BTW, are you talking about the Off-Broadway, low-budget version from February of last year?  If so, I saw it and thought it was amazing.  Now
>the original is something that I would have liked to see.  Is it ever going
>to come back?  I love Chess.  In fact, I was just listening to it this 
>afternoon (the one with Elaine Paige and Murray Head, not the B'way cast...)


I'm most interested in the London version.  (I've heard the Bway
version and read the plot and can't believe how badly the original was
massacred.)  I hear last year's version was very much like the
original, though.  I'm interested more in the visual aspect than
anything else, though, since I have the concept album and have read
the plot for that one.  I want to be able to visualise it as I listen,
since I'll likely never get to see it. :-/


Nancy


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From: hudu@well.sf.ca.us (Scott Marley)
Subject: Re: I wish I had seen...
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:51:13 GMT


I'd like to have seen:

1. =Pygmalion=, original production
2. Henry Irving and Ellen Terry in =Hamlet=
3. =Follies=, original production
4. =The Golden Apple=, original production
5. Any Shakespeare play in its original production, just to be able to
     settle arguments on authentic performance style!
6. The Max Reinhardt production of Hugo von Hoffmannsthal's translation
     of =The Bourgeois Gentleman=, the one with =Ariadne auf Naxos= as
     the last act
7. Laurence Olivier's double bill as Mr. Puff and Oedipus Rex
8. Angela Lansbury and Bert Lahr in =Hotel Paradiso=; I've never seen a
     review or any real mention of this production but I have a hard time
     imagining it could have been anything less than hilarious
9. =Private Lives=, original production
10. =The Crucible=, original production

Scott Marley
hudu@well.sf.ca.us
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Subject: Re: ? about "Into the Woods"
From: bcimmet@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 01:37:15 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <MAS.93Jan20161236@porgy.jpl.nasa.gov>, mas@porgy.jpl.nasa.gov (Marc A. Sarrel) writes:
> 	<1993Jan20.182633.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: porgy.jpl.nasa.gov
> In-reply-to: bcimmet@eagle.wesleyan.edu's message of 20 Jan 93 18:26:33 EST
> 
> In article <1993Jan20.182633.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> bcimmet@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
> 
>    Into the Woods was a masterful triumph in that category. Now, I believe the
>    lyrics here are:
> 
>    I've found a casket, entirely of glass; no, it's unbreakable
>    Inside (don't ask it), a maiden, alas. Just as unwakeable,
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    What unmistakeable AGONY!
>    (etc.)
> 
> What is the question that we're not supposed to ask???

The song is two princes "agonizing" over their love troubles. They each try to
top the other's demises, and so when the one says "I've found a casket,
entirely of glass, no it's unbreakable," he stirs the other prince's interest.
It's clearere in the staging, but... It's also another brilliant Sondheim
rhyme. "a casket" with "don't ask it". Brilliant.

				- Brian Cimmet

					BCIMMET@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Answer to Into the Woods Trivia
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:00:40 GMT


	Well, I guess there were no takers on my Into the Woods
trivia question: WHEN does it take place?

The answer: the 1700's.

Proof:  The show cannot take place later, since it is
obviously a pre-industrial revolution setting.  Also, the Grimm
brothers assembled their fairy tales in the first decade of the
19th century.
	The first barrier to how early the show can take place
is the presence of corn, a New World vegetable, making the time
period the 1500's at the very earliest..  (In case
you're wondering, saying it actually *takes place* in the New
World, doesn't help because the prince is riding a horse,
introduced by the Europeans.)  You also have to wonder why
Europeans are referring to maize as corn, since the term corn
was already used for other vegetables they already had
available to them.  Oh, well.
	But the clincher is this: Jack's mother lyric, "The
slotted spoon *can* hold the potato" implies that the potato is
an edible vegetable.  Until around 1700, the potato was
believed to be poisonous (in fact, most of it is), thereby
establishing the shows time setting.

					-Quinn
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: On a Clear Day You Can See Forever?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:52:29 GMT


	The song "On a Clear Day You Can See Forever" is from,
amazingly enough, from the musical, "On a Clear Day You Can See
Forever" I want to say that the composer was Burton Lane, but
I'm not sure.
						-Quinn
From: zornow@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Claudia Zornow)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:06:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Original cast recording of "Follies" on CD
Organization: HP SSD R & D
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre

tt27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Nicholas Tarantino) writes:

> an excellent album for sondheimophiles is called "a collector's
> sondheim" this album features recordings of songs you probably just
> haven't heard, such as the "invocation and instructions to the audience"
> and the beautiful "fear no more" from "the frogs" perhaps my favorite
> sondheim song. as well as outtakes from "forum" i.e. "the house of
> marcus lycus" which was a song but was eliminated in favor of a dance

I know nothing of "Forum" recordings, but the song "The House of
Marcus Lycus" is still in the stage version of the show; I've
played it and also heard it in community theatre productions.
(Great bass clarinet/bari sax part.)  Did you mean it was 
eliminated in the movie?

Claudia
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From: murray@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Thomas Murray)
Subject: Re: Answer to Into the Woods Trivia
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences, Evanston, IL
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:11:39 GMT

In article <C19GC9.1qM@news.udel.edu> conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:

>   (With one conscious anachronism, Bernadette Peters's Belle
>   Epoque white gown right after her transformation; none of the other
>   witches who followed her used this gown.)

Actually, I think there is a reason for this.  I was watching a tape
this weekend where Sondheim and Lapine discuss INTO THE WOODS in great
detail, for those who might be mounting the production in the future.

Lapine mentions the witch's gown and says that most productions will
probably want to have the witch's clothes transform into something
that might have the look of her ugly clothing, but when it was new
(i.e. before her original transformation).  This is especially
important in the case of actresses who are not well known to the
audience.  He says in Bernadette Peters case, this was not necessary,
since everyone knew what she looked like anyway.

-tom
From: bruceg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bruce Gimble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: JCS tour dates?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:16:00 GMT
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I was wondering if anyone had the tour dates for Jesus Christ Superstar.
Specifically, I'm looking for any dates in Texas.

Thanks!
bruceg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: sws8n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Stefan William Sittig)
Subject: Re: "Children Will Listen"
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:24:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.171016.27627@zeus.ieee.org> jcichock@ep.ieee.org writes:
>In article 24800@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM, msheldon@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Marti Sheldon) writes:
>> 
>> During the Inaugural Gala, Barbra Streisand sang a song with the
>> refrain "Children Will Listen" (or something like that).  My husband
>> and I recognized it as being from a musical.  He thought it was from
>> Into the Woods.  Anyone know for sure?  Who sung it and what was the
>> context (in whatever show it is from)?  Thanks.
>
>
>The song is sung as part of the finale to the show. The witch sings the song as a 
>message to parents that a child picks up on everything so watch what you say and do.
>
>(witch)
>Careful the things you say,
>Children will listen...
>Careful the things you do.
>Children will see, and learn...
>
>Children may not obey,
>but children will listen...
>Children will look to you
>for which way to turn
>to learn what to be...
>
>Careful before you say
>Listen to me...
>Children will listen...
>
>(everyone joins in)
>
>Careful the wish you make,
>wishes are children...
>Careful the path they take,
>wishes come true
>not three...
>
>Careful the spell you cast,
>not just on children...
>sometimes the spell may last
>past what you can see
>and turn against you...
>
>Careful the tale you tell
>that is the spell
>Children will listen...
>(and then into a reprise of Into the Woods)
>
>I hope this helps you out.
>(To everyone out there, I hope the song is ok. I listened to the tape to write it.
>
>Jeff

Sorry Jeff, you erred.  In the stanza that ends..  "wishes come true, not three."  The actual lyric (I checked my lyric book) is "wishes come true, not FREE."
Just a nit-picking point, cause you know...this is SONDHEIM...we are talking about precision here!  :)

				-Stefan

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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: I wish I had seen...
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:01:11 GMT

Let me amend my previous article in 2 respects:

In article <C17KoB.IGC@news.udel.edu> conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
>7.  The original production of CAMELOT....
>...to have seen Richard,
>Julie, Robert, Roddy, Arthur, et al, in the original designs...that
                       ^^^^^^
>would be something.

In case anyone was wondering who "Arthur" was, I goofed.  I was thinking
of King Pellinore, and instead of Robert Coote (who did him in the
original cast) my fingers subtituted Arthur Treacher (who took the same
part in the tour I saw).

And rather than CARRIE -- I don't think I really want to sink to seeing
awful shows on purpose -- let me substitute the special performance of
A CHORUS LINE designed to celebrate its becoming the longest-running
show on Broadway.  That was a one-time experience not to be missed, 
from all reports, with members of companies from all around the world 
taking part, and some numbers performed in duplicate or triplicate or
more.  My heart races just to think of it.

Jon Alan Conrad
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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella)
Subject: Re: CATS and theatre sound systems
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:03:06 GMT

In article <24680@alice.att.com> wookie@alice.att.com (Keith Bauer) writes:
>
>I found CATS to be an incredibly unique experience
>which has affected me in ways that cannot be explained and I am
>ready to go see it anytime anyone wants to go.  I'm eager to listen to
>anything the group has to say on the subject of CATS, whether positive or
>negative, and any thoughts of how this show fits in with the normal Broadway
>fare as I don't see CATS as being the typical Broadway show.  If anyone is
>afraid of something like "Oh no......not that show again!", then reply to
>me directly.

Well, I for one enjoyed it.... but I guess that's a given, huh? :)

(Hi 'Tiger, Gus, and Mr. M.!... :) )

Meows and kisses...
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From: davidf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Fristrom)
Subject: Re: Sarah Brightman
Reply-To: davidf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (David Fristrom)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:04:30 GMT

In article <1k78aqINN8ht@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> khc@qing.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
> 
> Anyone knows the whereabouts of Sarah Brightman ? Is she
> currently singing in London or North America ?
> 

She is currently in London starring in the play TRELAWNY OF THE
"WELLS" by Pinero (from 1898 -- it's about a young star actress who is
leaving the acting company to marry a swell), with Michael Hordern,
Helena Bonham Carter, and Jason Connery.  However, the play closes at
the end of the month (this is not to be confused with the National
Theatre production of the same play, which opens next month).

David Fristrom		|
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From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Subject: Re: Chock Full O'Goodies!!!
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, California
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:13:52 GMT

> arndt_w@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>> dkodmur@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Kodmur) writes:

[great stuff about Barbara Cook omitted]

Barbara Cook performed at then-new Davies Symphony Hall in
San Francisco some 10 years ago, to a sold-out black-tie
audience (it was *faaabulous*).  About 6 weeks later, she
snuck back into town to do a series of cabaret shows at
the Plush Room, with Wally Harper, of course, accompanying.

We ran down about an hour before the first show was to
begin, expecting the ticket line to be out in the street,
but found, instead, that there was no one there but the
bartender and waiters.  By showtime, there were 12 people
in the room (including the staff), but Barbara came out
and sang anyway -- quite the most special and delicious
cabaret show I can remember.  At one point, she sat on the
edge of the stage, right beside me, and sang Noel Coward's
"If Love Were All" just for me <swoon>...
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From: jameskau@phakt.usc.edu (James Kaufman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Sarah Brightman
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:27:40 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1k78aqINN8ht@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> khc@qing.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>Hi,
>
>Anyone knows the whereabouts of Sarah Brightman ? Is she
>currently singing in London or North America ?
>
>Thanks.
>
>- kelly
>


Brightman will be starring in the Los Angeles production of
Aspects of Love in a few months.
I can definitely see her being a great Rose...

James Kaufman
jameskau@scf.usc.edu

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From: pyramus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Brooks Meador)
Subject: Re: I wish I had seen...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 07:55:14 GMT

In article <MURRAY.93Jan20205858@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> murray@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Thomas Murray) writes:
>
>What are the top ten (if you can name that many) productions (B'way or
>othewise) you wish you had seen.  And why?  This is not limited to
>musicals (for those of us who find plays their principal attraction to
>theatre).  This also isn't limited to recent shows (though maybe we
>should try to stay within the 20th century?).

1. how 'bout the final "chorus line?"  i've heard that that was the most
spectacular moment on broadway to date...

2. angela lansbury and len cariou in "sweeney todd" (but i've seen the video,
same goes for bernadette in "woods" [i also would be interested in seeing
phalycia (sp?) rashad play the witch])

3. original "hair."  i love the music, and if i had seen it at the time it
had come out, with the social situations being what they were, i would
have enjoyed it even more.

4. "once on this island."  never seen it.  some local company is doing it
soon, however, and i will certainly be there.  the music is fascinating.

5. "miss saigon" with lea and jonathan.  anyone else just won't cut it
for me...

6. "carrie."  sue me.  i'm DARNED curious about exactly how bad this was.

7. "the wiz."  i loved the movie as a child, but have never seent he stage
production.

8. "song and dance."  bernadette peters.  'nuff said.

9. ethel merman in "gypsy."  seen tyne daly.  she was excellent.

10. "porgy and bess."  i've heard some music and seen some pictures,
but that's it.

the above list was composed in complete random order.  there are oodles
of other productions that i would have liked to have seen, but hey, these
came to my head first.

pyramus@leland.stanford.edu