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From: puglia@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Paul Puglia)
Subject: Re: book club
Organization: Center for Biomolecular Simulation
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:09:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.004822.12022@beaver.cs.washington.edu> pattis@cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis) writes:
>One word of caution; I've found some book clubs, including the main one
>mentioned, charge a hefty shipping and handling fee. For some of the less
>expensive books, this fee increases the total cost beyond my local bookstore.
>
>Rich Pattis
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>  Richard E. Pattis			"Programming languages are like
>  Department of Computer Science	 pizzas - they come in only "too"
>    and Engineering			 sizes: too big and too small."

While it is true that the shipping charges brings up the price of a
book, it is usually no more then a $2.00 or so over what you would pay
in a local store.  What you have to look at in any book club is what 
sort of bonus plan they have.   With LCIS you earn a bonus point
for every ten dollars worth of books you buy from them.  For every
4 points you earn a bonus coupon.  This coupon entitles you to a %55
discount on any book in their catalogue.  LCIS also runs specials 
which allow you to to double your points.  These big discounts offset the 
the slightly higher prices you pay for the regular selections.  If you
buy a lot a books then a club is a definite win.  My strategy is to 
buy alot of lower priced books--which by the way usually have the 
lower S/H costs--and save the coupons for the big items.  


Paul Puglia
Dept of Civil Engineering
Columbia University

puglia@cucevx.civil.columbia.edu

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From: puglia@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Paul Puglia)
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,misc.books.technical
Subject: Re: book club
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:05:49 GMT
Organization: Center for Biomolecular Simulation

In article <1992Aug27.151858.4134@cs.cornell.edu> hal@cs.cornell.edu (Hal Perkins) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug26.004822.12022@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
>>	pattis@cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis) writes:
>>>One word of caution; I've found some book clubs, including the main one
>>>mentioned, charge a hefty shipping and handling fee. For some of the less
>>>expensive books, this fee increases the total cost beyond my local bookstore.
>
>rthomson@mesa.dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson) writes:
>>As another poster mentioned, the real benefit of buying books through
>>the club is the discount credits.
>
>Something else to consider.  If you and the book club are in different
>states you won't pay sales tax.  I've found that the shipping and
>handling charges are generally less than the 7% sales tax I would pay
>if I bought the book locally.  Given that and the regular discount,
>the total charge has always been less than the list price of the book
>(at least for me), and can be a lot less.
>
>Hal Perkins                 hal@cs.cornell.edu
>Cornell CS

Unfortuately, this is not really true with New York.  Our home state
requires mail order companies to pay sales tax when doing business
with residence of the state.   If your book club is not paying the
sales tax then it breaking the law.  Most mail order companies
abide by these regulations, due the increased effort of 
many state's attorney-generals to track down and proscute those
companies that aren't paying the tax to the state.


Paul Puglia
Dept of Civil Engineering
Columbia University
puglia@cucevx.civil.columbia.edu
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From: rthomson@mesa.dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Subject: Re: book club
Reply-To: rthomson@dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 06:02:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.004822.12022@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
	pattis@cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis) writes:
>One word of caution; I've found some book clubs, including the main one
>mentioned, charge a hefty shipping and handling fee. For some of the less
>expensive books, this fee increases the total cost beyond my local bookstore.

As another poster mentioned, the real benefit of buying books through
the club is the discount credits.  For every 4 "bonus credits", you
get a bonus certificate which gets you the book at 60% off the
publisher's price.

Anyway, just to give a little sample data about shipping & handling
charges:

    Book					Pages	S&H
    Tilings & Patterns (heavy)			700	4.42
    The Ants (heavier)				732	6.59
    Weak Chaos & Quasi-Regular Patterns		272	5.84
    Fractals, Chaos & Power Laws		429	4.84
    Regular Complex Polytopes (oversize)	205	5.84
    Graphics Gems				750	5.59

I don't know about you, but I don't mind paying $5.59 in S&H for
Graphics Gems when the total cost is $25.57, still about 50% of the
publisher's price.  As the other poster and I have been saying: look
at the $/bonus-credit when you are purchasing books at the regularly
discounted price.  Careful shopping can result in big savings when you
spend that bonus certificate.

						    -- Rich
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From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: (Used) technical book stores in Philadelphia,PA.
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: pa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:37:09 GMT

Sorry for jumping in if there is a FAQ (where?), but could
somebody email me at shin@huey.udel.edu addresses of technical 
books stores (EE and Computer Science & Eng.) in Philly that 
(1) opens in weekends and (2) has also used books? I am coming 
from Delaware, has rough idea of city of Philly.  I have tried U 
of Penn bookstore but this one was closed on weekend.  THanks 
for any and all replies.
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From: andy@uh.msc.edu (Andrew Hollenbeck)
Subject: Library of Computer and Information Sciences
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:06:10 GMT

Does anyone have a phone number (or email address) for the Library of Computer
and Information Sciences bookclub?  I sent in a card to join the club over a
month ago and haven't heard a word from them.  I would like to verify that they
received my request.

Thanks,
-- Andy

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From: pattis@cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis)
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical,misc.books.technical
Subject: Books by E-mail
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:05:39 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

Computer Literacy Bookstore (Bay Area, CA) has just gone online. They have an
information e-mail address (info@clbooks.com) to check stock and prices, etc.,
and orders@clbooks.com to place orders. Before placing an order, you have to
fax or mail them your credit card information and address - I guess they don't
want people sending this stuff electronically, well e-mail-electronically.

All this was announced in their Summer book bulletin.

Rich Pattis

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From: rthomson@mesa.dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Subject: Re: book club
Reply-To: rthomson@dsd.es.com (Rich Thomson)
Organization: Design Systems Division, Evans & Sutherland, SLC, UT
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 23:16:39 GMT

[I tried to mail this to the poster, but it bounced back; in fact I've
noticed that almost all mail to anything at BNR.CA bounces]

In article <1992Aug25.142830.26440@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
	dperl@bmerh694.bnr.ca writes:
>It sounds like a very good club. How can we join it?

The best way for people to join one of these bookclubs is through an
existing member.  The exsisting member gets 2 books (up to $65 worth
on my form) free and the new member gets 3 books for one dollar each.

The new member agrees to buy at least 3 books at the member's
(discounted) price over the course of the next year.

If anyone would like to join this book club, I'd be more than happy to
mail them a catalog of recent selections (so you can select your 3
books) and the form with my part filled out.  I love getting free
books :-).  I wouldn't make the offer if I didn't think this was a
great bookclub (then again, I'm an info-junkie so my comments should
be regarded with that in mind :).

						-- Rich
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Disclaimer: I speak for myself, except as noted; Copyright 1992 Rich Thomson
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From: tjebelea@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Tudor Jebelean)
Subject: Re: book club
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:50:59 GMT

What about Europe? Are there any book clubs in Europe?

Tudor Jebelean         RISC - Linz               Phone: Austria - 7236 - 3231 - 20
(PhD student)          A-4040 Linz, Austria        Fax: Austria - 7236 - 3338 - 30
From: andy@uh.msc.edu (Andrew Hollenbeck)
Newsgroups: alt.books.technical
Subject: Re: Library of Computer and Information Sciences
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:28:33 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center

Thanks to all who responded to my plea for the LCIS phone number.  I called them
and they informed me that my introductory books (a 4 book UNIX library) went out
last week and will arrive any day now.

By the way, the LCIS vital stats are as follows:

Library of Computer and Information Sciences
A Newbridge Book Club
3000 Cindel Drive
Delran, NJ  08370-0001

Phone numbers:
   1-800-257-8345
   609-786-9778

Thanks,
-- Andy
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From: pattis@cs.washington.edu (Richard Pattis)
Subject: Re: book club
Summary: One word of caution
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:48:22 GMT

One word of caution; I've found some book clubs, including the main one
mentioned, charge a hefty shipping and handling fee. For some of the less
expensive books, this fee increases the total cost beyond my local bookstore.

Rich Pattis
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  Department of Computer Science	 pizzas - they come in only "too"
    and Engineering			 sizes: too big and too small."
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 15:05:13 EDT
From: Alexandre Pechtchanski <APPMS@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: How to format 10 sectors per track?

You can also use shareware program 800.com (or ask it's author how he've
done it).  The program should be in many ftp sites; it puts a patch to the
BIOS, which then enables flexible formatting (like 10s*43t on 360 kb
floppies).  Unfortunately, it only works with MS-DOS 3.3+ and internal
drives.

Happy hacking!
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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Re: alt 255 ; question
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:38:31 GMT

Is this ALT-255 thing a function of DOS or is it built into the keyboard BIOS?

If the former is the case, it doesn't work with DOS 5 + 4DOS 4 + ansi.sys .

If the latter is the case, it doesn't work with my chips.

No big deal, but I'm just curious....
-- 
Matt Garretson                       :-)                          garrem@rpi.edu
From: sandberg@carroll1.cc.edu (Brian R. Sandberg)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
Subject: MS-BASIC file security possible?
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:40:14 GMT
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI

I am writing an application in MS-BASIC V7.1 which uses random access data
files.  Here's the problem:  these files contain confidential information.
Is there a way to keep people from reading (accessing) these files?

--
Brian Sandberg
sandberg@carroll1.cc.edu

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From: max@alias.com (Max Stevens-Guille)
Subject: Re: Mem to Mem DMA ??
Reply-To: max@alias.com (Max Stevens-Guille)
Organization: Alias Research, Inc. Toronto Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:18:11 GMT

I don't know about the validity of the source code but the quoted 
documentation refers to the 8259 DMA controller.  This is incorrect,
an i8259 is a Programmable Interrupt Controller.  The correct part
number is i8237.

Just figured it'd make looking up data sheets easier.

Cheers,
	Max
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From: peter@Schultz.ON.CA (Peter Roeser)
Subject: Re: Trapping 386 IO port accesses
Organization: S-S Technologies Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 15:43:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.143350.10587@ncsu.edu> dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL) writes:
>
>Hi.  The 386 and better can be set up to generate a general protection fault
>when a process does an IN or OUT to a specific I/O port based on an I/O
>permission bitmap in the Task State Segment, but this only works in protected
>mode where there are TSS's, not in real mode in which MS-DOS operates.  I
>guess you could write a little (not!) DOS extender that runs DOS in V86 mode
>(which is really a real mode process running within protected mode which is how
>Windows multitasks DOS applications in 386-Enhanced mode), but this would be
>extremely difficult to design properly to handle BIOS interrupts and DMA.
>
>Simulating interrupts would be pretty easy to do in real mode -- in your
>"custom" interrupt handler, just call any interrupt handler you want.
>
>Since this is your "own custom hardware", why don't you just simulate these I/O
>ports in your adapter?

   I would like to find a software only solution if possible.
   The software that needs to do the IO trapping will be put into
   existing 386 machines and we would like to avoid modifying
   them by adding cards etc. 
>
>Tschuess,
>David Paschal


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From: tgreen@iastate.edu (Todd Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Trapping 386 IO port accesses
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:59:52 GMT

In <1992Sep1.143350.10587@ncsu.edu> dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL) writes:
>Hi.  The 386 and better can be set up to generate a general protection fault
>when a process does an IN or OUT to a specific I/O port based on an I/O
>permission bitmap in the Task State Segment, but this only works in protected
>mode where there are TSS's, not in real mode in which MS-DOS operates.  I
>guess you could write a little (not!) DOS extender that runs DOS in V86 mode
>(which is really a real mode process running within protected mode which is how
>Windows multitasks DOS applications in 386-Enhanced mode), but this would be
>extremely difficult to design properly to handle BIOS interrupts and DMA.

>Simulating interrupts would be pretty easy to do in real mode -- in your
>"custom" interrupt handler, just call any interrupt handler you want.

>Since this is your "own custom hardware", why don't you just simulate these I/O
>ports in your adapter?

what about doing this under windows?  I know nothing of windows
programming,  but wouldn't it be possible to write a windows
driver (for 386 enh mode of course) to do something like this?

I'd be interested in seeing what others think, and how one 
would go about doing it, as I have a similar need.
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer
From: edge@unislc.uucp (Brian Edginton)
Subject: Linking Microsoft library with Borland
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:56:46 GMT

I have picked up a project that is supplied with a
toolkit that includes a library compiled and lib'd
for use with Microsoft C 5.x.  I use Borland. Is 
there a way I can link the library with my .o's
or do I have to buy Microsoft?

Thanks,
 edge

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From: jpl@fct.unl.pt (Joao Prospero Luis [ps])
Subject: Re: Truncate a file in MS-DOS with Borland C or C++
Followup-To: alt.msdos.programmer
Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa -- Lisbon, Portugal
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 10:54:14 GMT

In article <172@chorus.chorus.fr> mir@opera.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski) writes:

>   Trying to make a file restoration utility, I recently noti-
>   ced that there is no library call in Borland C and C++ to
>   truncate a file. No truncate() and no ftruncate().
>
>   Is there a clever trick to do to obtain that? I only need
>   to change the size within the last cluster range: basically
>   I want to bring a FILExxxx.CHK to its previous (and separately
>   saved) name/size/date/time/attributes, etc.

	Do a seek to the location where you want the file truncated
and write zero bytes.
	This only works if the call (write, fwrite whatever) really
does an INT 21h to write zero bytes.

	Hope this helps,

	JPL
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From: peter@Schultz.ON.CA (Peter Roeser)
Subject: Trapping 386 IO port accesses
Organization: Sutherland-Schultz Limited, Kitchener, ON
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:16:59 GMT

	Greetings netters,
		I have a need to write a program for MSDOS that will act
		as a TSR to redirect IO manipulation by another program
		to my own custom hardware. That is to say:

		1. Trap any IO reads/writes to a specific port
		2. Simulate Interrupts from hardware

		This is somewhat like writing a debugger that allows traps
		whenever low level IO is accessed.
		Needless to say this must all be done in software.
		The software can be specified to only run on 386 class PC's.

		Does anyone have experience in writing this kind of software?
		Are there any books which might discuss this kind of hardware
		simulation?

		I will post a summary of any email if there is interest.

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From: jsanders@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (John Eric Sanders)
Subject: TSR in C
Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:01:23 GMT

I am interested in writing a screensaver program in C, and could
use some help.  Could someone send me sources of other programs,
or tell me some good books to read on the subject?  At this point
I think I know just enough to crash my computer.

Thanx in advance

-- 
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 I have finally discovered the method to my madness.  Unfortunately,    
 there is more madness to my method than method to my madness.
From: rider@geloser.CAM.ORG (Serge Ayotte)
Newsgroups: alt.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.la
Subject: Re: Windows and printscreen
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:56:52 GMT
Organization: Gentleman Loser System, Montreal/Qc/Cdn

holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Rich Holland) writes:

> When I started out, my task seemed simple enough!  i've got a 286 with 
> MS-Win 3.0 installed and I've got to dial up a mainframe and ocasionally
> get a printout of something.  It's such a hassle to hit PRTSCR, swap
> back to windows, go into notepad, hit EDIT-PASTE-FILE-PRINT, and then
> swap back to my program.  I figured it'd be pretty easy to intercept the
> PRTSCR keypress by writing a "shell" around my comm program.

Hi there!

What I'm saying is what I have at work, I run with Win 3.1 but if memory
serves me correctly, this is still applicable in 3.0 too

Create a PIF file for your program and enable in the RESERVE KEYS
section all those related to PRINT SCREEN (even those for shift, alt,
and ctrl). It works for me, I too have to use the mainframe of the
company and print out a few stuff...

See You around the 'Net!!

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