From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: Air conditioning not a luxury....
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 06:18:54 GMT

Bo Curry (curry@hplred.HP.COM) wrote:
: Let's review our little debate so far:
: 
: My (BC) original post:
: :  "[BC has] never had air conditioning in [his] car, ..."
: 
: Your (DH) original response:
: :  "In other words, [BC has] been _harming_ the environment by wasting more
: :   gasoline, due to the parasitic drag induced by having [his] car's windows
: :   open.  
: :   Ah, the misguided do-gooder.  Perhaps the worst kind."
: 
: This post makes the following claims:
:   1. BC drives with windows open.
:   2. Parasitic drag caused by open windows wastes more gasoline (than A/C),
:      _in this particular case_.
:   3. This waste of gasoline _harms_ the environment (more than A/C).
:   4. BC is misguided.
:   5. BC is a "do-gooder".
 
OK, Bo, so far so good....

(lengthy quotation of what everybody who is still reading has read deleted)
: 
: Personal opinion, irrelevant to the original post. Too silly to argue with.
: De gustibus non est disputandum, etc.
: 
Um...English please?  We're all really impressed that you can speak & write Latin.
Congratulations.

:  |3> People who drive in hot climates, or even hot weather, need some kind of
:  |   cooling for their car.
: 
: Personal opinion, unsupported by evidence. Since this "need" was the original
: point at issue, it is begging the question to assume it as a premise.

OK, so you sit in an un-cooled car, then?

:  |4> Some cars are more aerodynamic than others.  If you drive something with
:  |   loads of drag, open windows won't matter too much.  If you are in something
:  |   that the engineers gave a damn about drag while designing, it will matter
:  |   quite a bit.   
: 
: True, but without numbers doesn't support the original claims.

It's either true, or it isn't.  You admit that it is true, yet you say "Yeah, but
you didn't do hours of research for me on the topic".  Sorry, Bo, you're not
worth the effort, quite frankly.

:  | 5-7> Political BS, too silly to argue with.
: 
: Are you able to support _any one_ of your original claims _with evidence_?
: If so, post the evidence. If not, please slither away.

Ah, yes.  Summarize my arguments in the manner which supports yours, I'm       
impressed.  You learn that from any particular politician, or are you striving
to be one?  You may have a future.
: 
:  |: (BC): Apology accepted.
:  |
:  |(DH): Apology?  More like nausea.
:  |
: Here's a new one for the rhetoric texts: the Argument from a Weak Stomach.
: "I must be right because your arguments make me sick". Opens a fascinating
: new perspective on George Bush's trade mission to Japan.
: 
: Bo Curry
: "Arguing with a dyslexic is like wrestling in jello".

Bo, I apologize.  Here I thought there was no hope, then we got this dyslexic
quote.  You do have a sense of humor, after all!
And here I also assumed that you drive in a manner which cools you in your
atlanta-heated car.  Perhaps, instead of requesting research from me, you
fill us in as to what you drive, how you cool off (if at all), and so on.

How about some hard facts rather than a repetitive gainsaying of each of my   
posts?  I really haven't seen you present any hard facts, or even 
questionable ones, just "No, I'm not a do-gooder, you're wrong" type of
whining.  "No I'm not, yes you are" type of stuff is getting, to be honest,
rather boring.  How about injecting some facts from YOUR side?

Is there more to you, or is this the limit to your interpersonal interactions?

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Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
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