HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: All hail Quayle, he is my life!
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:08:38 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Dec19.121853.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> whan@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>If one has no life and must live their pathetic and diluted existences through
>another individual, why would any one make that person Dan Quayle?  Of course,
>for those pathetic and intellectually arresting individuals, Dan Quayle must be
>the natural choice as leader of the losers; I mean who is more qualified to
>lead a bunch of roving idiots than one who long ago mastered the art of being
>an idiot?

    New around here, eh, Winfield?  (Winfield??!)

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     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: Re: An idea about the situation (wasRe: Ban the geeks at Allegheny.)
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:55:51 GMT


luriem@alleg.edu (Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer writes:

>vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>> What do you "major" in Mikey?

>Psychology, with a minor in Bio and Chem. I want to go to Med School and  
>treat screwed up adolescents.

Ah, sort of a self-analysis. But actually that would mean you'd have
at least two patients. Maybe even a whole group of them.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: Re: Allegheny Bashing
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:06:49 GMT


romingk@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Karl Rominger) writes:

>This is what I had meant to write.  I was rather in a hurry, so if you'll  
>pardon my first post, this is how it should read.

How do you like this idiot? First he flames us, then he asks our pardon,
then he flames us again. Sheesh and double sheesh.

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From: gbrown@Jane.UH.EDU (G. Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: A present for Dan
Date: 12 Dec 1992 07:50:38 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: gbrown@Jane.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu

In article <1992Dec12.042016.20894@pony.Ingres.COM>, garrett@Ingres.COM (REACH OUT AND GREP SOMEONE) writes:
>	With Christmas approaching, I believe that it's time
>to decide what we would send Our Man Dan if we could.
>	For instance, how about a Mattel "Speak and Spell?"
>
>
>-Garrett 
Garrett, your post made me think of the recent flap over the talking Barbie
Doll that said, among other things, "Math sure is hard."  It struck me that
there might be a sizeable market for a talking Dan Quayle Doll that said things
like, "Spelling sure is hard," and "Not to have a mind is being very wasteful:
how true that is," etc.  And how about a matching Marilyn Doll, saying things
like "Dan tries to read Plato's Republic every year," and "Most women do not
wish to be liberated from their essential natures as women," followed quickly
by "Math sure is hard."
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: twarner@hardy.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner)
Subject: Re: A Real Quayle Question
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:10:19 GMT

pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh) writes:

>>No, he "worked" at his family's newspaper for a time.
>>Doing what, I have no idea.

>I can think of a couple of possibilities:

>1) You know how sometimes when you open up a newspaper, a long, thin (no
>   thicker than a 2 or 3 mm. or so) strip of newsprint, folded in the middle
>   like the pages themselves, will slip out?  I'll bet you thought this
>   resulted from the page cutting machine shaving the edge off a page.
>   Actually, every newspaper employs a person to make these shavings and
>   insert them into the paper and this was Dan's job.

>   - OR -

>2) Dan ran the machine that adds the "magic finger-smearing fluid" (you
>   probably didn't know about this either) to the ink.

>Anybody else got any ideas?

Actually, Dan was part of a special crack team of investigative reporters.
In fact, he was part of a pioneering group whose development of the "Dan
method" is still celebrated at investigative reporting conferences.

Briefly, the "Dan method" is used by reporting teams when an investigation
target becomes aware too early that they are being investigated by the paper.
When this happens, Dan, or an equivalent, is immediately assigned to
interview the investigation target. This puts the target completely at
ease, minimizing their efforts to cover up while the rest of the team
completes the information-gathering stage of the investigation.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: dgs@sfi.santafe.edu (David G. Simmons)
Subject: Re: Allegheny Bashing
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 21:32:39 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute

In article <1992Dec16.181855.23373@pellns.alleg.edu> romingk@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Karl Rominger) writes:
>This is what I had meant to write.  I was rather in a hurry, so if you'll  
>pardon my first post, this is how it should read.
>
>In article <1992Dec16.165848.21121@pellns.alleg.edu>  
>romingk@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Karl Rominger) writes:
>> 
>> So you want to bash my college huh.  Well to hell with you then.  
>> This is a damn fine liberal arts college.  I chose it over many other 
>> "more prestigous" institutions.  
>> 
>> Since we will all be captains of industry some day, I would think all of  
>> you out there would be better off being nice to us.  We may remember you  
>> when you come to sweep our floors.
>> 
>> Karl
>> romingk@alleg.edu  It's my real name so don't wear it out.  And remember  
>> nasty responses and email will be noted and stored for future refernce.   
>> Beware!
>
>P.S.  I think Dan is an OK guy.  After all I can't hold the potatoe  
>incident against him.
>
>Karl

Truly amazing.  Utterly amazing.  Not only posting such illiterate ramblings
ONCE, but then returning to post virtually the *same* drivel all over again,
without even correcting most of it.

Are we *sure* Danoe didn't go to Alleged.U?  Maybe, after he leaves office,
he could get a Professorship at Alleged.U.  Looks as if he would fit right
in, and his command of the English language would even be considered fairly
*high*.  Of course, I don't know if there is a sufficient quantity of golf
courses in the area to sustain him, but it's worth a try...

-David
it taks reel confidense to keep a typo in you're .sig
From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:58:45 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

For a while there it seemed as if a few mature heads from Allegheny U 
had finally prevailed. And now "Karl" pops up from the miasma and proves
that hypothesis wrong.

I find myself musing that people like Karl, Jon, et al, are the best
arguements for gun control I've ever seen (and I'm an ardent NRA type).
Imagine what these kids would do if they got into an arguement and
had a lethal weapon to hand, rahter than their limited wit at the keyboard.

The computer is also a sort of equalizer...  when Karl (inter alia) sits at 
his/her/its keyboard, all he sees is a few lines of text.  He doesn't
see the body language, the maturity, or any of the other peripheral signals
that normally tell people "we are dealing with a geek" or "we are dealing
with a mature person".

Any person is free to read, and respond, to any other post, regardless
of the putative position of the poster.

To some extent, I enjoy this.   It is not often a person in my position
gets to engage in free and easy discourse with students, staff, and
people from industry.  I often find that students and staff overreact
to my position, and are no longer "natural" around me.   I enjoy the
give and take of a reasoned debate, wherein we must each present and defend
our ideas qua ideas, and cannot resort to arguementum ad valorum (I happen
to be XXXXX, and you're just a student, so I'm right).

However, there is a down side to this...

If the reader/writer is not used to critical analysis and mature dialog,
then they might illogically assume that a vaguely Anglo-form string of a
few hundred symbols makes them the intellectual equal of anyone else who
can type in a few hundred symbols.

Thus, people like Karl can follow a person like Helen, and they actually think
the drivel they are producing has equal value to her posting.  Obviously they
are not used to critical thinking and analysis.   Hopefully the roasting
they get in this forum will start to inculcate some seeds of enlightenment.

The net can act as a large peer reviewed journal.  Helen's posting has been
examined by these putative peers, and they approved of her posting, and her
reasoning.  Karl's inanities have been rejected by the majority of
those peers.  He can reject their assessment, but I think he should
consider that this peer group consists not only of students, but also 
of people who are similar to those who will be holding his job interviews,
etc...   With that in mind, perhaps he would do well to realize that
his current behaviour has been examined by a large group of people,
and found wanting.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: twarner@hardy.u.washington.edu (Tom Warner)
Subject: Re: holiday in indiana
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:06:38 GMT

mjsimko@sumax.seattleu.edu (Matthew Simko) writes:

>						With the holiday season
>fast approaching I feel we should all give a little to those out there
>facing unemployment. I would like to be the first kid on my block to
>organize a holiday gift drive for  our favorite soon to be ex VP......Dan
>Quayle. However, I have now idea what to get a man who might have had
>everything. I suggest that those of us loyal to the Dream That Might Have
>Been submit suggestion for gifts.

Shopping for Dan, ooh, now that is a toughie.

Well, we could go practical. He'll obviously need a nice, professional looking
resume to help him find his niche in the private sector. Perhaps we could
design one for him and have it done up real nice at some upscale typesetting
firm. He'd like that, don't you think?

Okay, so first we need to his "situation wanted" and "experience" ....







Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: Dumb Blonds
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:51:45 GMT

What's the best job a dumb blond ever got?


Vice-President.

-- 
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Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman)
Subject: Re: meyerj responds to allegations
Organization: City of Saint Paul Public Works
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:16:13 GMT

meyerj@ THAT PATHETIC SCHOOL THAT EVERYONE HATES writes:
> Patrick Humphrey at Tommy Kramer's alma mater writes:

>> ... in the future, I'm going to be one of those
>> just slightly skeptical of anything coming from alleg.edu.  You're
>> going to have a lot of work ahead of you to undo what's been done --
>> so get to work on it, already, and quit your whining.

> First of all Mr. Genius, you are a classic example of a moron.

GOOD START, Mr. Meyer.  Really first rate.  I'm glad that you could find
a way to take Mr. Humphrey's advice to heart.

[--rest of similarly well-reasoned post deleted--]

-- 
Chris Lyman   /   email: chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov   /  my words; no one else's
"I feel most ministers who claim they've heard God's voice are eating too much
pizza before they go to bed at night, and it's really an intestinal disorder,
not a revelation." - Reverend Jerry Falwell
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (MMMMM...ESSENCE OF GELFLING)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: enough is enough
Summary: Definitions
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:53:31 GMT
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1grlpfINNn1f@menudo.uh.edu>, gbrown@Elroy.UH.EDU                          writes...
>In article <1992Dec17.2156}(mL45.18284@pony.Ingres.COM>, garrett@Ingres.COM (REACH OUT AND GREP SOMEONE) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec17.042444.9600@pellns.alleg.edu>, petrosb@coch2.alleg.edu (Brian Petroski)    writes...
>So, my suggestion is this.  This newsgroup should continue under its present
>name, but its charter, to be spelled out in a revised FAQ file, should be
>amended.  The name "Dan Quayle" in the newsgroup title should be given both 
>a symbolic and a literal signifance.  Symbolically, it should be understood as
>standing for any political figure (broadly construed) who is caught saying or
>doing particularly goofy things in the manner of our hero.  In this sense, I
>think our boy's name is destined to become dictionary entry:  "Dan Quayle,
>noun.  Public buffoon, said especially of political figures, as in 'Senator X
>sure made a Dan Quayle of himself today on This Week with David Brinkley.'" 
>(There will, of course, be corresponding verbs and adjectives.  To wit:  "He
>did nothing but quayle on This Week with David Brinkley; his eyes even had that
>glazed, quaylic quality; he made a complete fucking Quayle of himself."  And
>gerunds:  "His quayleing kept us in stitches for hours.")  We could thus keep
>this newsgroup alive under its present name by reporting quaylic behavior
>wherever it is found, but never forgetting that Our Boy is the one true
>yardstick by which to measure any purported "quayle" (definition:  an act of
>quayleing). The name should also continue to be used in its literal sense when,
>on those most happy and glorious of days, we are able to relate a news item 
>about our hero his own self.
> 
>So, uh, what do you all think?

  I think the first thing we must do is to define the word "quayle."
The noun, adjective, verb, and adverb must have a definition so that we
can refer to (if nothing else we can have fun creating this). The Quayle
Dictionary, if you will.
	We then need examples, both of our poster boy, prospective
politicians and public figures. It might be a good idea to take news stories
that have examples of "Quayling" and insert our adjectives (then maybe not,
it's an idea).
	One way or another, the Quayle Dictionary must be created before
this group disbands. As a tribute to that historic personality, Our Man Dan!

>| Gregory Brown          |   "God is, as it were, the sewer into which       |
>| GBROWN@JETSON.UH.EDU   |        Lectures on the History of Philosophy      |

-Garrett
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: Re: Robin Williams.
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:21:30 GMT

No, but we are starting two fan groups you may want to read:

   alt.fan.michael-lurie.evil
   alt.fan.michael-lurie.good

There will also be an alt.fan.alleged-college in the near future.

OBQuayle: Danster got a warm reception in El Salvadore.  Maybe
it's because he brought them some good news.

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Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: djg2@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (David J. Greenberger)
Subject: Re: Quayle for President -- 2002
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:45:48 GMT

erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:

>No, it's the new Conservative tactic to get elected - sneak in while
>nobody's looking. Only I thought it was Quayle in '94, Kemp in '02.

Hey, that's cute.  Who's gonna run in '98, then?
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Allegheny Bashing
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 06:47:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.181855.23373@pellns.alleg.edu> romingk@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Karl Rominger) writes:

)P.S.  I think Dan is an OK guy.  After all I can't hold the potatoe  
)incident against him.

If Danoe said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against him?
-- 
This inhuman place makes human monsters.       (Stephen King)

hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: erics@sco.COM (eric smith)
Subject: alleg.edu off the air?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:37:33 GMT


I got email from a student at alleg.edu who said that the system
administrators had shut off everyone's network posting privileges
there last night, and that they may or may not be reinstated next
semester.

A couple of days ago I sent email to Mr. Herskowitz (aherskow@alleg.edu,
if you're inclined to write), mentioning my concern that their security
system had problems, and that some juvenile posters were only succeeding
in trashing the school's reputation on a national forum.

He sent me a cordial reply, stating that a) he had only been a system
administrator for a short time, b) he had even more serious security
problems than these to worry about, and c) he would not be in charge
of the news software until January, but he would bring the problem up
with the current administrators.

Apparently this is the action they felt they had to take. I have mixed
feelings because I think they need to solve their problems (and I don't
normally go complaining to system administrators about other net users),
but I'm sorry they felt they had to make a blanket termination of
everyone's posting privileges.

I hope that most people at alleg.edu are off to Christmas break soon
anyway, and that next semester a solution can be found that will allow
everyone normal (and secure) net communication.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: An idea about the situation (wasRe: Ban the geeks at Allegheny.)
Summary: Say it ain't so!
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:15:37 GMT

In article <e40LVB6w165w@Blue.Kludge.COM> alizard@Blue.Kludge.COM (A.Lizard) writes:
>Does anyone around here know who alleged.u's feeds are?

The more important question is -- who'd want to admit to knowing?  :-)



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Subject: Re: Did Dan Quayle go to Allegheny?
Reply-To: bsmart@bsmart.TTI.COM (Bob Smart)
Organization: Citicorp+TTI
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:45:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.002006.6682@pellns.alleg.edu>, luriem@alleg.edu
(Michael Lurie) The Liberalizer writes:
> In article <29311@castle.ed.ac.uk> matt@castle.ed.ac.uk (M P Taylor)  
> writes:
> as Very Competitive +,  The classess are very small, ussually about twenty
                              ^^^^^^^^                 ^^^^^^^^

Yes, special ed programs are often run that way.  Or perhaps you'd say,
"offtten?"
  
> students each. The proffesors have about 1-2 hours of office hours each  
                     ^^^^^^^^^^
Apparently, they don't teach remedial spelling during this time.  Pity.

> I turned up many good schools and some academic scholarships  

Fascinating.  I've heard people boast of having "turned DOWN" good
schools, but what does "turned UP" mean in this context?

> It is an great college,
        ^^
I grow more convinced of this with each passing line.  If I had any
microcephalic children of my own, I know just where I'd send them.

> and a few people on the NET are not going to ruin it for the rest of us.

Heavens, no.  You seem up to the task yourselves.

---------

A fanatic is someone who does what he knows that God would do if God knew the
facts of the case.

Some mailers apparently munge my address; you might have to use
bsmart@bsmart.tti.com -- or if that fails, fall back to
72027.3210@compuserve.com.  Ain't UNIX grand?
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle for President -- 2002
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 23:17:48 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
Reply-To: erics@infoserv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


palane@IASTATE.EDU (Paul A. Lane) writes:

> sinnrdj@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

> >   To throw a little support where its due:
> >     
> >     Quayle for President --- 2002
> > 
> >  See Clinton's gonna serve just one term, the we'll have Kemp/Dole, or
> > Dole/Kemp for two terms, and the Quayle will step in.

> I'll ask what is probably an obvious question. Is the use of the date 
> 2002 a little mathematical quayle humor?

No, it's the new Conservative tactic to get elected - sneak in while
nobody's looking. Only I thought it was Quayle in '94, Kemp in '02.
 

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: train@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Herbert Rutledge)
Subject: Re: enough is enough
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:50:22 GMT

In article <1gshoaINN2kl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu 
(Vern Morrison) writes:

|> In a previous article, petrosb@coch2.alleged.u (Brian Petroski) says:
|> 
|> >To those who bash Allegheny:
|> >
|> > [ Remember, at Allegheny College English is strictly elective ]
|> >
|> >THE POLISH POWER WAS HERE!
|> 
|>      What kind of polish are you talking about?  I personally find Kiwi to
|> be effective for black shoes, but not nearly as good for brown.  

  Vern brings up a good point (as well as providing us with a good laugh).

  The words "Polish" and "polish" are spelled alike.  This is because, as
  Brian Petroski so amply demonstrates, some people don't know shit from
  shinola.



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: romingk@pell3l0.alleg.edu (Karl Rominger)
Subject: Re: I'm sorry.
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:21:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.145652.17871@pellns.alleg.edu>  
masonh@murr14.alleg.edu (Helen Mason) writes:
> 	I realize that this group does not have very warm feelings toward  
> Allegheny College.  I have just attempted to follow the Gator(Allegheny  
> mascot) Bashing thread from the last two weeks.  All that I can say is  
> that I am sorry for the sophomoric invasion.
> 	I am a senior at Allegheny, and I am greatly disturbed by what has  
> happened.

Nothing like a caring senior to lead us under class men along the straight  
and narrow.  Geeesh.

Karl  
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle