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Subject:      Handicap Digest # 3007

                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 3007

                        Wednesday, November 04, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                           Re: Amputation 10-20-92
                       Re: BBS Access through internet
                                     ADD
                     Re: Home from surgery and recovery
                              Re: Your friend.
            Re: Summer 1992 issue of Future Reflections Uploaded
                       Customized cars for weak hands?
              Statistics on College Freshman with Disabilities
         interface/changes to a car for wheel-chair handicap driver
                         Obituary of Herman Woltring


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Subject: Re: Amputation 10-20-92
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA

In <25240@handicap.news> Joe.Rhinehart@f320.n226.z1.fidonet.org
(Joe Rhinehart) writes:

>Its a fancy word for amputation - the removal of a body part. Not my
>idea of fun...

Disarticulation technically means amputation of a part of a limb through
a joint.  It's not "fancy", it's simply more specific.

I feel the disabled community would be better off without your frequent
and ignorant expressions of fear and distaste for amputation.  It's
pretty obvious to me that nobody wants lose a body part, but it is
sometimes necessary, and in fact is sometimes quite a lot better than
the alternatives.  It is a problem that can be coped with, like the
other problems we discuss in the disability echoes.

Rob T
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Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast




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Subject: Re: BBS Access through internet
From: janina@netcom.com (Janina Sajka)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

One network you can access via Telnet is WIDNet, a disability
policy service for advocates and professionals.  Among other things
WIDNet features extensive regular publication of disability related
extracts from the Federal Register.  We are a subscription service
with rates starting at $10 per month.  Scholarship assistance is
available.  Send me your E Address if you'd like more information.

To my knowledge there is no way to read the various Fido echos
which feed this news group most of its messages through Telnet.
You would need to find a BBS local to you to read these echos
directly.

                        Janina Sajka, WIDNet Manager




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Subject: ADD
From: karen@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Karen Latora)
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine

My husband's nephew has ADD  (attention deficit disorder?) can
someone tell me more about this?

Thanks!!




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Subject: Re: Home from surgery and recovery
From: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Jones)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX


[This is from the Amputee Conference]

 WB> THINGS WENT WELL WHEN AT PARKLAND for shoulder amputation.Seems
 WB> like they did a horizontial slice at top of right arm pit.

Wayne, glad to hear that things went well for you. I know this will
bring some serious changes to your life, but I know you will be happy to
get own with your life.

 WB> Less pain
 WB> then before amputation.

When I had my leg amputated four years ago, I was so amased that I
immediately began to feel better. As you said, there was less pain than
before the amputation.

 WB> The residents who made rounds & that were part of the
 WB> amputation team said they had never heard of NTASG, Obe Arm
 WB> Dove Hunt or AMPUTEE ECHO. However, Dr. Wallace wrote an order
 WB> so I could have the computer & modem.

As an officer of NTASG, I am not pleased that they do not know us. I
have contact with some of the social workers at Parkland, but we get
very few calls from Parkland for peer visitation. I will try to make
contact with some of the surgeons, etc.

Sorry that I did not get down to see you while you were in Parkland.
Last week was very busy. I am a high school music teacher. I was
involved with a concert, football game, and a music contest. Please
accept my apology for not getting down to see you. I received you
message on the NTASG answering machine, but when I got to Parkland late
Saturday afternoon, you were already checked out and gone.

Wayne, all of us at NTASG wish you the very best. Please keep in
contact. Maybe next time you are in Dallas we could get together.

Jim Jones

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Subject: Re: Your friend.
From: John.Hargrove@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org (John Hargrove)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/68 - Diabetes Discussion, Austin TX


[This is from the Amputee Conference]

In a message to John Hargrove <10-26-92 22:00> Shari Messner wrote:

SM> Yes there is a lot of beauty in the mountains surrounding Tucson.
SM> Some
SM> of the sunsets are unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!As long as you can stand
SM> the
SM> heat, there is lots of beauty.

Know what you mean about the sun sets.  My sisters house sits on a point and
 has a 360 deg view of all the mountains.  When it comes to mornings and
 evenings the sunsets are great.  The heat I can stand a lot better then this
 stuff we have here in Tx.  When it gets to 90 deg and 70% humidity it will
 feel like a 115 deg day.  The humidity is what drives me nuts.  I don't go out
 during the day.  Dry heat I can stand a lot better.

SM> covered, especially when  he gets out on the course.

Tell Nat I talk to a guy yesterday at my regular docs office that had just won
 the amuture (sp) amputee golf assoications terminant (sp) for the centeral
 part of Texas.  This guy is thinking of going into teaching new peglegs how to
 play golf.  Being an amputee he thinks he can give a bit more in sight on what
 to do with a peg leg.

SM> Nat is now fighting for a new sleeve to be made.  His insurance pays
SM> for
SM> two and he has had two fittings.  BUT he needs to have a new one as
SM> he
SM> has a spot that is bruising and really hurting.  He will know in a

That whats kick me.  The insurance I use to have would pay only for one leg.
 got my temp/trainning leg and that was all the insurance would pay for.  My
 other 3 legs the state of Tx Rehab Commission paid for.  My endolite medicare
 pay for with no quams at all.  Course I paid about 10% of it.  My pegleg place
 gave me a price break on what I owed.  Now what's funny is, so to speak, is a
 kid growing up can have all the arms/legs they need and have each one paid for
 by insuance.

SM> Glad you are ok and hanging in.  I am super tired toinght so I am
SM> going
SM> to try and make it through my messages at least.

Yeap. evening did my first bit of real work last week.  Was a monitior for the
 state board of nursing giving LVNs thier lic exam.  Sat and twiddle my tumbles
 all day.  But all in all had a good time.

SM> love, hugs, and fuzzies

Same to your too.  Have to give you Tx. size ones one of these days...grin.

John

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Subject: Re: Summer 1992 issue of Future Reflections Uploaded
From: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Bill McGarry)


My apologies: This and the other isses of Future Reflections
are in the "/pub/visual" directory.

Bill




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Subject: Customized cars for weak hands?
From: mrl@tardis.pfc.mit.edu (Mark London)
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER

I have very painful hands and arms, mainly due to fibromyalgia and
years of typing.  I can drive old GM cars, i.e. my Citation,
because it was designed with a very easy power steering mechanism.
All the new cars require much more of an effort to turn the wheel.
Someday I'll need to replace my car.  I've asked mechanics about
adjusting the power steering, but even if they could, which they
doubt,there are apparently legal problems with doing it.  There
must be ways that handicapped people get around this.  Has anyone
had their car customized, what is involved, and how much does it
cost?  Thanks.

Mark London
MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU




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Subject: Statistics on College Freshman with Disabilities
From: nrcgsh@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Norm Coombs)

[Forwarded by Patt Bromberger]


ACE has just published a report on "College Freshamn with
Disabilities:  A Statistical Profile."  It is summarized in the
11/4/92 issue of the Chronicle of Higher Education, p. A27.  It can
be ordered for $10 from ACE, Box CFD, One Dupont Circle, Suite 80
0, Washington, DC 20036.







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Subject: interface/changes to a car for wheel-chair handicap driver
From: xnguyen@icsi.berkeley.edu (Alex Nguyen)
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.

I have a user that is in a wheel chair.  He will be in the U.S. for
three to four months starting January.  He wants to be able to drive
around in the San Francisco bay area.  Does anyone know of a decent
priced place that adapts regular automatic transmittion for
hand-driven?  Also, is there a place that lease such a car.  What is
the cheapest way for this person to obtain transportation
(a car for a wheel chair person) for a short period of time?

Any response is greatly apprieciated.

---Alex
xnguyen@icsi.berkeley.edu




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Subject: Obituary of Herman Woltring
From: HANS_SV@DUTNANN.TN.TUDELFT.NL (Dr Ir. Furnee)

[Note from Bill McGarry -- I forwarded this from the BioMechanics
mailing list of which Herman was the moderator.  Herman was
both a participant and an avid supporter of this conference.]




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              H E R M A N     W O L T R I N G

The saddening message has reached me that on tuesday november 3
your and my friend and colleague Herman Woltring was killed in a
car accident.

It is hard to instantly find words fitting to such an early and
sudden loss. Some of you will, like me, have known Herman
professionally for over twenty years, others will have only
recently enjoyed the pleasure of his acquaintance.

Those words of remembrance and condolence which you may feel
brimming up, will be collected at my email address and through
Herman's brother passed on to Margriet and the children he left
behind.
There is also his brother's FAX ++31-1640-34221 for direct mail.

Obsequies is due friday nov. 6 at 15.45 h in the Heeze crematorium,
Somerenseweg 120, 5591 TN Heeze (near Eindhoven) Holland.

There will be further notice on take over of the moderation of the
BIOMCH-L list.

Hans Furnee.




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