HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lego@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Martin Lee Group)
Subject: Re: Old Soviet kitsch -- on request
Organization: University of Toronto Physics/Astronomy/CITA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:53:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.180935.15832@ctr.columbia.edu> igor@csa.uiuc.edu  writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.154045.39982@cs.cmu.edu>, sergei+@cs.cmu.edu (Sergei Nirenburg) writes:
>|> In answer to Gregory Landsberg's request:
>|> 
>|>          Sirenevyj Tuman
>|>          ---------------
>|> 
>|>  Slova i muzyka -- mezhdunarodnye.
>|> 
>|> 
>|> Sirenevyj tuman nad nami proplyvaet.
>|> Nad tamburom gorit proshchal'naya zvezda.
>|> Konduktor ne speshit, konduktor ponimaet,
>|> Chto s devushkoyu ja proshchayus' navsegda.
>|> 
>|> Zapomnyu navsegda vse to, chto ty skazala,
>|> Dvizhenya milyx gub, resnits tvoix polet!
>|> Eshche odin zvonok - i smolknet shum vokzala.
>|> Eshche odin zvonok - i poezd otojdet.
>|> 
>|> A ryadom ty stoish' i slyozy utiraesh'.
>|> Byt' mozhet, ja tebya uvizhu cherez god.
>|> A, mozhet, ty menya naveki pokidaesh'.
>|> Eshche odin zvonok - i poezd otojdet.
>|> 
>|> 
>|> It's difficult to write down the music in this medium but if you are very
>|> interested, send me mail. 
>|> 
>|> Have fun. Tell me if you need any more of such. I may remember.
>|> 
>|> Cheers.
>|> 
>|> Sergei
>I guess I missed the original request, but anyway, otkuda eti stihi?

I remember this song performed by Victor Markin and his group "Trudnoe detstvo"
("Tough Childhood") - it became a hit in 1990 in Sovok
The video of the song was also pretty good.

VS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: plcheck@daisy.waterloo.edu (Paul Check)
Subject: Grad Math in Russia: Steklov, Novosibirsk, etc
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:26:01 GMT

Dear Reader,

   I am interested in information on studying graduate level mathematics
in Russia.  Particularly, there are two institutes I have noticed
by browsing through journal articles, namely the Steklov Institute
and the (?) Novosibirsk Math Institute (?).  I have no knowledge
of Russian, but am willing to take some time (1 year) to learn the
basics.  My questions are:

1. Do these or other universities in Russia take foreign students?
2. Is it possible to study at these places with 1 year of Russian
   background?
3. Does anybody have the e-mail/realmail addresses of these places?

While all responses are welcome, any opinions of past/present students of
Russian math programs would be great!

Thanks,

Paul Check
plcheck@daisy.waterloo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: guest@lab.ultra.nyu.edu (Unused guest account)
Subject: Re: Ski in Russia
Organization: New York University Ultracomputer Research Lab
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:57:30 GMT

Vot-vot:

tra-ta-ta ....

Kuplyu sobaku,
Nazovu ne Sharikom,
Nazovu Rinaco!

... They pay for TV ads, after all ...

Vadim Maslov.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:2930 soc.culture.german:2917 soc.culture.europe:3575
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: ANOTHER multu KILL record!
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:33:54 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

 
>David. I have sent you a gif of a kebab via sea-mail on an 8" floppy disk with
>non-standard formatting. 

Thanks a lot Steve. I'll let you know how it was when it arrives. :-(

Dave

-- 
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| Dave Morning                     | "Broon Hee Haw Maw"                     | 
|dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk             |                                         |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: dunl@ellis.uchicago.edu (john  dunlevy)
Subject: Moscow State University directory services?
Reply-To: dunl@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:27:21 GMT

-dunl@midway.uchicago.edu
From: GLL@fnal.fnal.gov (Gregory Landsberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: yet another email question..
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:58:04 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Stony Broook
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <10APR199218494526@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu> ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu writes:

> 
>   I was wondering, if I sent e-mail to Russia, how would it come out?
> Does the character set in Russian computers include Latin letters,
> or would the message just be garbled?  Can only "English-speaking"
> computers receive an English e-mail message?  Also, how much of
> the message actually makes it across the net and to the recipient?
> 
> Vance "so many questions, so little time" Kochenderfer
> Virginia Tech                    |  'Get me out of these ropes and into a
> ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu         |   good belt of Scotch'    -Nick Danger

Sure, all ``Russian  computers'' (90% of which  are basically normal IBM PC
compatibles) have  Latin keyboard!  Don't worry about  it! Some of them are
bilingual and are  capable to display Russian  characters in alternative or
some other coding (top  part of extended 8-bit  ASCII table). However, some
mail-servers  are not capable  to transfer  8-bit ASCII, so  the attempt to
send Russian mail even  if the other side has the  same coding scheme often
fails. But no problems with English, trust me!

Really you  should forward  your question  to rec.humor!  Do you think that
Russian Fortran uses ``IDI NA''  instead of ``GO TO'' -:) ? By the way, did
you ever send  messages to Japan?  You never asked the  same question about
Japanese computers?!

Have a good mailing!

Cheers,

Greg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet
From: henrik@kpc.com (Henrik Livasgani)
Subject: Re: News from Azerbaijan-Turan News Agency in Baku
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:41:57 GMT


   It sure would be nice to get the news from Moscow based
   Agency so it would not sound so "biased".......
From: gt4342d@prism.gatech.edu ("Sergey K. Asvadurov")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Revolyutsiya i smert'
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:03:32 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

>Those are the words of Alexander Odoevsky, a "Dekabrist", born a prince,
>sentenced to 12 years of Siberian mines for conspiracy and participation
>in the December,1825 revolt, from his response to the famous Pushkin's
>epistle "Vo glubine sibirskikh rud":
A ne Chaadaev chasom? The quoted Pushkin's poem is written to Chaadaev (as
far as I know.)


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================================================================
Sergey K. Asvadurov
Internet: gt4342d@prism.gatech.edu
tel. (404) 676-1588
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3141 soc.culture.europe:3836
From: mookie@milton.u.washington.edu (Christopher Mealy)
Subject: Going to Russia
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:23:10 GMT


That's what I might do.  I don't know if this is the right place to ask,
so I apologize if this is outside the focus of this group -
greco-turk-azer-armenian conflict.

I considering leaving in early June and returning late September this
summer.  I have a number of questions

1. What's the cheapest/best way to get there?
2. Is there any work I could do for anyone ("consulting," writing, etc.)
3. Is there anything I should know that you know that I might not hear about
   anywhere else?

Please write me if you can help at all, or even just want to talk.

Here's some info that might help in answering my questions
-I have housing arrangements already.  I have a friend in Moscow who 
 has extra room.
-My friend has an e-mail address in Moscow.  If you need to consult with 
 someone in Moscow, I can give you his address.
-Despite what this post may indicate, I'm a very good writer, and would
 enjoy writing for any English-language publication.
-I'm an undergraduate enrolled in the honors program at the University of
 Washington.  I'm majoring in cultural anthropolgy and economics.
-I can type, drive a car, program a computer, derive a demand curve,
 teach swimming and lifeguarding, fix small appliances, and play the bass
 and guitar.

If you think you have anything that might help, please reply.


///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Christopher Mealy
 University of Washington                 mookie@u.washington.edu
  Seattle, Washington  USA
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: henrik@kpc.com (Henrik Livasgani)
Subject:  Russian_Easter
Keywords: 
   Does anyone know when the Russians (Orthodox) celebrate Easter ??
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:47:41 GMT

   Also, How many Russians (Orthodox) churches are there in San Francisco ???
   And their names if available.

   Are there any different divisions among the Russians (Orthodox) religion ???
 
   Thanks for your time ;
   Happy Easter;
   Henrik


Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3006 talk.politics.soviet:3362
From: dmitry@netcom.com (Dmitry Grinauz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Hasanchik
Keywords: did he finally screw up?
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:44:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Hey, dudes!

Did it appear to anyone that Hasan might have finally screwed up?
Methinks hbm@ddsw1.UUCP may be his real e-mail address.  So if it
is, what should we do?

Dmitry.
From: hubey@PILOT.NJIN.NET (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: The Karaites
Date: 6 Apr 92 01:32:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: pilot.9204060132.AA01255
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

I'm glad you brought this up. In the Atlas of Jewish History it
says that 10,000 Karaites were killed.  p. 89

I got some bad email and don't feel like posting on this topic
anymore.

Some people get insulted that they might not be descended from
'civilized' French and Germans.
--

	mark


   hubey@pilot.njin.net                   hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
 ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey                  hubey@logos.montclair.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3150 soc.culture.europe:3845
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Well, 'Radu' Is Not Getting Hasan's 'Imbecile' Postings Anymore.
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:52:00 GMT


<sdhttINNa2r@agate.berkeley.edu>
160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu

>Well, I am not getting Hasan's imbecile postings anymore. 

You got me there, 'Tomescu at UCBerkeley.' I guess my plans to
install myself as 'King of Berkeley' are washed up now. 

>However, PPP and Law of one Price aside , he is right if and only if:
>Absolute prices are in Turkyie more than 4 times lower than absolute
>prices in Greece. This follows since Greece has a GNP/capita  roughly
>four times, in absolute value, larger than Turkyie...So, for the average
>Turk, who makes 4 times less than the average Greek, life is going to be
>better iff the market prices he faces are more than 4 times smnaller..

You have set up straw horses and knocked them down - I am not impressed.
The existence in two countries of nontraded goods and services whose
prices are not linked internationally allows you to put your foot where
your mouth is, 'Tomescu.' Because the price of a nontradable is determined
entirely by its domestic supply and demand curves, shifts in those curves
may cause the domestic price of a broad commodity basket to change
relative to the foreign price of the same basket. In a nut shell, the 
purchasing power of the Greek currency will fall in Greece when the prices 
of nontradables rise. Besides, the output of the construction industry 
is also nontradable. However, Turkiye's competitiveness in contracting is 
around 6.88 when Greece is not even on the map. Also, transport costs 
may be so large relative to the cost of producing some goods and services 
that they can never be traded internationally at a profit. Thus, your
myths about the Greek economy don't stand up to the realities on
the ground. Consult some less biased sources, for a change. See: Balassa, 
Kravis and Lipsey.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3137 soc.culture.europe:3832
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Do You Always Watch The Irrelevants, 'Lars?'
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:48:00 GMT


<FISCHER.92Apr14235943@thor.iesd.auc.dk>
fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)

Mutlu>  Let me guess, you are an intellectual sociopath, indifferent
Mutlu> to truth, perhaps just another propagandist frozen in the 1970s
Mutlu> like a fly in amber, combining moral arrogance with historical
Mutlu> ignorance.

>Well, Hasan, you're improving. Not at all at the level of Oleg or
>Mikhail, but still, the above is pretty hilarious. Good flow, the odd
>obscure word, surreal accusations. 

Are you slipping into a coma, 'Lars?' Satire does not look pretty upon
a 'fis*her.'

>Keep it up and you really might
>make it to the "flaming-as-art" class.

Do you always watch the irrelevants? Will you not disbelieve these 
sources?

Source: Uras, Esat: The Armenians in History and The Armenian Question.
Documentary Publications (Istanbul), 1988.

p. 907.

"In all the occupied territory from which the Russians were withdrawing,
 the Turks were exposed to attacks by the Armenians, who were attempting 
 to take over the administration. The Turkish population was forced to
 leave their homes and flee. There were large number of unwarranted 
 arrests and many were killed. Antranik arrived in Erzurum as a general
 in Russian uniform to take over the defence of the city, and he was 
 joined there by Doctor Zavriev, who had previously been appointed 
 Deputy Governor-General of the occupied provinces. The atrocities and
 massacres committed by the Armenians continued in their fury."

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.mideast,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.mideast
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: *NEW* Mutlu Kill file record!
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:48:35 GMT
Summary: Ongoing Mutlu "kill" competition
Keywords: mutlu

A new result has been recorded in the ongoing competition for the highest
single count of "downed" hasan b. mutlu postings by a kill file.
 
For those of you who have not been aware of the competition, it began as a
response to Mr Mutlu's lack of consideration for his fellow net users. Rather
than sent endless, spleen-filled E-Mail to the uncaring Mr. Mutlu (who may,
infact, not even exist - right, Mr Cosar/Kosar/Coras?), we decided to have
some fun instead.
 
SO! There are two classes in this competition. 
 
Class 1: Highest single count of "killed" mutlu postings in a single pass by
any means. Message pointers may be changed, fiddled with, massaged, in order
to gain the highest possible total.
 
The current record holder is David Morning of the United Kingdom, with 73. He
is also the U.K. record holder. The Canadian record holder and former World
Champion is Melvin Klassen of Victoria, British Columbia, with 43 downed
Mutlus to his credit. I am the New Zealand record holder in Class 1 and a
former world champion with 17. Other were awarded Worthy Mention status....but
I won't mention them as they are too numerous.
 
CLASS 2: Highest single count of "killed" mutlu postings in a single pass -
WITH NO MODIFICATIONS TO MESSAGE POINTERS!
 
I was the World Champion in this category until today. Vlad Rutenberg, of the
United States, has now claimed this category as his own with 33 (!!!!) downed
mutlus in a single - UNMODIFIED  - pass. He now also holds the United States
record in both Class1 and Class 2 of this ongoing competition.
 
These results are being cross-posted to allow others the opportunity to
deomnstrate their prowess in this area. This being an Olympic year, we may
form a committee and ask that "Multu Kill File Filtering" be made a
demonstration sport at the Olympics in Barcelona, later this year. It is late,
but the sport has attracted a definite cult following in soc.culture.soviet.
 
Please post any record application - along with message headers of downed
Multus's, if possible for verification - to me via E-mail.
 
Thank you and I hope you all will appreciate and enjoy this new sport in the
light-hearted spirit which is intended.
 
Congratulations to Vlad Rutenberg on his world and US records. They are
acheivements he can be proud of. 
 
Steve Withers
Self-appointed moderator of this competition
 


-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | "But the glory kept shining
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  and bright in my eyes, 
Ph. +64 4 478-4714  /                   |  And the stars going round in 
FAX between 6am and 1pm Eastern ST      |  my head." R. L. S.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Viznyuk)
Subject: Re: Grad Math in Russia: Steklov, Novosibirsk, etc
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 02:29:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.222601.18117@watdragon.waterloo.edu> plcheck@daisy.waterloo.edu (Paul Check) writes:
>Dear Reader,
>
>   I am interested in information on studying graduate level mathematics
>in Russia.  Particularly, there are two institutes I have noticed
>by browsing through journal articles, namely the Steklov Institute
>and the (?) Novosibirsk Math Institute (?).  I have no knowledge
>of Russian, but am willing to take some time (1 year) to learn the
>basics.  My questions are:
>
>1. Do these or other universities in Russia take foreign students?
>2. Is it possible to study at these places with 1 year of Russian
>   background?
>3. Does anybody have the e-mail/realmail addresses of these places?
>
>While all responses are welcome, any opinions of past/present students of
>Russian math programs would be great!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Paul Check
>plcheck@daisy.waterloo.edu

  Steklov Institute is non-educational institution. The same
is true probably about Novosibirsk Math Institute.
So I think you would not get any math courses there.
Try to get to Mechanical-Mathematical Dept of Moscow
State University.
S.V.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3158 soc.culture.europe:3854
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: What Makes 'Gav*0' Un-Impartial? General 'Kaltiyin?'
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:04:00 GMT



<22041522420773@WISCMACC.BitNet>
UCNICK@UMUC.BitNet (Nick Gavrielatos)

Mutlu>What makes 'Krugman' 'un-impartial,' 'zavalli.' The fact that
Mutlu>that you disagree with him?
 
>Not exactly you turkish hemorroidal discharge, not exactly...

It's always better to negotiate for someone else rather than for
yourself, 'Gav*0.' Now, where were we?
 
Source: Doc. Dr. Azmi Suslu, "Russian View on the Atrocities Committed
        by the Armenians Against the Turks," Ankara Universitesi, Ankara,
        1987, pp. 45-53.

"The things I have heard and seen during the two months, until the
 liberation of Erzurum by the Turks, have surpassed all the
 allegations concerning the vicious, degenerate characteristic of
 the Armenians. During the Russian occupation of Erzurum, no Armenian
 was permitted to approach the city and its environs.

 While the Commander of the First Army Corps, General Kaltiyin remained
 in power, troops including Armenian enlisted men, were not sent to the
 area. When the security measures were lifted, the Armenians began to 
 attack Erzurum and its surroundings. Following the attacks came the
 plundering of the houses in the city and the villages and the murder
 of the owners of these houses...Plundering was widely committed by
 the soldiers. This plunder was mainly committed by Armenian soldiers
 who had remained in the rear during the war."

                  (to be continued...)

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: gt4342d@prism.gatech.EDU (Sergey K. Asvadurov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Culture anecdote
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:28:18 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

After the anecdote about Ministr cultury Demichev I remembered this one:
---------
Cheshskoje pravitel'stvo obrashaetsja k Sovetskomu s pros'boj o razreshenii
otkryt' ministerstvo Voenno-Morskogo flota.
-Vy chego? U vas zhe dazhe vodnyh granic net!
-A kakaja svjaz'?
-Nu kak mozhno imet' ministerstvo togo, chego net!
-Podumaesh! U vas zhe est' ministerstvo kul'tury! 
-----------

================================================================
Sergey K. Asvadurov
Internet: gt4342d@prism.gatech.edu
tel. (404) 676-1588
================================================================
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3164 soc.culture.europe:3860
From: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Subject: Views on Aleshkovsky' work?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 14:23:09 GMT


I've been re-reading Aleshkovsky's HAND and KaNGAROO lately,
mainly in pursuit of a notion regarding the power of language
as a means of breaking out of the machine of history.  Any comments
on his works?  Is any of his poetry available in the U.S.?  Has he
published anything since HAND?

J. Del Col
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:2982 talk.politics.soviet:3335
Organization: Old Dominion University Computer Services
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 18:57:22 EDT
From: FARID <FHM100F@ODUVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet
Subject:    Explosion in Armenia.

A huge explosion in an Armenian ammunition depot is reported. Russia has
offered to help in controling the fire.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3159 soc.culture.europe:3855