From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Jewish vs Arabs
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:10:35 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <exposim.718993469@hp9k> exposim@hp9k.lag.itesm.mx (Simposium de Sistemas) writes:
>    If Israel is the most democratic country in Middle East, why 
>    is he so punished (i think it's the right word), by the Arabs.

Who said that the Arab nations are democratic?  And who said that they
care what system of government Israel has?  Their problem is not the
democracy-disctatorship conflict the USA had with the USSR.  Actually,
there was a time when the Arabs and the Jews were friendly (fellow
sons of Abraham...).  What happened was Brittain, when it became clear
that they couldn't keep the Mandate region of the Middle East, decided
to foment hatred in order to create wars that (they hoped) would keep
them in control.  Well, now Brittain has been out for a long time, but
the hatred they created lives on.

>    Maybe the U.S. has something to see there? Maybe because the 
>    jewish in Israel are trying to insitutionalize the Apartheid vs
>    the non-jewish people (Arabs, Palestinians,etc).

Let's not confuse the Palestinians with the PLO.  If you remember (I
believe it was the 6-day war) when this mess got started.  The Arab
leaders (that became the PLO) asked Arabs to sell their land to the
Israelis and leave the nation in the expectation that after the war,
they could take it back from the deceased Jews.  Well, the Arab
nations lost the war and the citizens who left had sold their land and
now they want it back.  The PLO have kept (and may still be keeping)
these Arabs in camps in order to maintain the myth of Israeli
subjugation.

The fact is, though, that Arabs citizens who obey Israeli law are not
persecuted and have the same rights as other citizens.  

FYI: The Gaza strip has always been a hotbed of violence since long
     before modern Israel existed.  So nothing's new there.  As for
the West Bank, I've been told that it's a rather nice place that gets
a lot of bad press because of the few radicals that enjoy terrorizing
the Israelis over it.  It's more likely that you'll get mugged in an
American city than you'll be the victim of terrorism in Israel.

>    Can we say it's more a problem of religion than a problem of 
>    economics, the most important problems in Israel???

It's a problem of generation-old feuds that won't die because of the
Arab mentality of "victory or death" and the hard-line Israeli
distrust of their Arab neighbors.  Hopefully the nations will wise-up
and stop the fighting.  Now that there has been a change of power in
Israel to a group that's more willing to talk, we may see both sides
reach an agreement in our lifetimes.

After all, both Israel and the Arab nations stand to gain a lot from
peace.  Look at how much better Egypt is compared to their situation
before the peace treaty.
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