HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: How to replace disk driver in SCO Unix ?
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:21:38 GMT

jochen@mrz.sub.org (Jochen Fahrner) writes:

>P.S.: Can someone recommend a german SCO distributor which has a good
>support ? We tried two different distributors, both have a very poor
>support. The guys at their "hotlines" don't know much about SCO or
>unix in general. If I tell them, there is a bug in the Microsoft C
>6.0, it can't compile the following statement:
>	const char *p[2];
>	p[0] = "wrzlbrmpft";
>they tell me, my code is wrong, the compiler is ok !!!

This is a problem that has been much discussed with folks from Europe who 
would 'love' to have just a little of the support we get on this side of the 
ocean and constantly bitch about. Apparently the distributor setup in Europe 
is very similar to the distributors in the US in that the support is not all 
that it should be. But here we have the secondary VAR/APC channel that also 
sells and supports customers.

The kind of thing as reported above is really not supportable by distributors 
as they are not developers.  At the C level it's only other developers or SCO
direct that can help or verify a problem.  As far as I know, not even SCO has
control over the compiler because that is a MS product.


>If we don't find a better SCO distributor, we have to switch to
>another brand of unix. We don't care if our unix is from SCO, ISC,
>Dell or whatever. What we need is a working unix and a good support !
>--
>Jochen Fahrner, jochen@mrz.sub.org, Home: jochen@busybit.mrz.sub.org

You can not expect a distributor to also be your educator. The best bet is to 
network with other developers, use the net or hire somebody who knows what 
he's doing and doesn't require support. Switching distributors among the above 
vendors probably won't help.

fred
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From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,alt.fan.john-palmer
Subject: Re: Anyone get BIND 4.8.3 to work under System V
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:54:16 GMT
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745

jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:

>In <1992Aug19.225616.1492@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John
>Palmer
>) writes:
>>Has anyone gotten BIND to work under System V UNIX (ISC)??

>I just ported bind 4.8.3 to my SVR4 system a couple of days ago, as my
>system does not have direct access to the internet, and the shipped named
>doesn't support the forwarders and slave options.  However, due to your past
>threats against me and other members of the network community, I won't give
>you a copy no matter how much you beg.

Let's be nice - regardless of what someone has done in the past :)

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From: esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: FAQ maintainer needs some leverage on Dell
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:50:39 GMT
Distribution: world

In <1992Aug10.205609.8242@sci34hub.sci.com> Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <sheldon.713408054@du139-205.cc.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
> 
> | I finally found copies of the FAQ, hoping to find useful information
> |to help me out in our own purchase.
> 
> | I did find some very helpful information.  However, I was also rather
> |offended by the FAQ's.  I suspect this is because of the tremendous
> |amount of personal opinions, insults and other garbage.
> 
> | I don't know about tradition.  But is it possible to impeach a FAQ
> |maintainer?
> 
> It's always possible to start one of your own. I haven't gone through
> the FAQ for c.u.sysv386 in detail recently, so I'm not aware of the
> current wording.
> 
> By all means, though, write up one of your own.

Indeed.  Write up your own if you don't like mine.  Or, better yet, send
me specific criticisms of what you consider "garbage" and help me improve
the existing one.  Lots of people do this every month, and haven't found
me at all difficult to work with.

One thing we should get straight to start with, though, is that I probably
will not remove `personal opinions' from the FAQ.  I believe I'm fulfilling my
responsibility by *clearly marking* the parts which are opinion, as opposed
to hard fact.  If you don't like my opinions, you're free to ignore them.
-- 
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From: maw@netcom.com (Martin Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: FAS 2.10 async driver, part 5/5
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:32:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

>I have to pay for my news, plus I have to pay for the US-Europe phone
>call and I am not impressed having to pay to get this crap.

Well, if you're having problems with your high-speed connection, and
need a serial driver which can support > 38400Bps, then I suggest
that you don't use FAS at all. You're such an unappreciative bastard,
Uwe should probably add something to his license agreement which
prohibits you with the flashy .signature from using FAS.

Uwe, take no notice of this brainless pratt. There are still some of us
out here who appreciate your efforts. Keep up the good work.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: isc30248@nusunix3.nus.sg (LEE BOON PENG)
Subject: Streams network module arrangement: Help !
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:27:52 GMT

Hi ....
	I'm implementing a simple protocol in System V Streams and I
need some advice. 
	I'm using System V Rel 4 Ver 4.0 (386) and the following entries 
are found under /dev: rawip, udp, ip, tcp, and under /dev/inet, similar
entries are found. There is also /dev/ie6_0.
	I plan to implement the protocol at the same level as udp. It
would be a multiplexor resting on top of ip. I know that if I want to
set up such a configuration, I could use the autopush facility.
	Is there any way for me to determine how the various protocols
are stacked on top of one another and how this is done by the system
i.e. the various steps and commands needed? For example, am I right to
guess that the following modules/multiplexors are stacked in the manner
below:
			---------------
			|udp|tcp|rawip|
			---------------
			|     ip      |
			---------------
			|    ie6_0    |
			---------------
	Also, is there a shorter way to the cycle of generating the object
code, rebuilding the kernel and rebooting the system :(?
	Finally, can anyone point me in the direction of documention of
the TLI primitives and how they are used?
	I would be grateful for any help.
						Thanks!
						Boon Peng
						shilpa@iscs.nus.sg
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Dell SVR4: no SCSI support for Exabyte and/or CDROM?
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:20:44 GMT

rvdp@sow.econ.vu.nl (Ronald van der Pol) writes:

>And do they tell the buyers it won't work on Dell SVR4? No utilities
>and/or filesystem support is no support!!

Maybe it would be possible to use the device under DOS merge?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner)
Subject: Making my 386 run unix....
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 17:32:54 GMT


I have a Compaq Deskpro 386/20e and I am interested in making it
run UNIX... How much would it cost... Who should I buy it from?
How much hard drive space? Please email replies... Thanks...
CW
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From: ptuomola@saha.fmi.fi (Petri Tuomola)
Subject: Re: MASTER cshrc/login file?
Organization: Finnish Meteorological Institute
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 06:26:56 GMT

>|> I think that means that the "adduser" function copies /etc/defaults/.cshrc
>|> to $HOME/.cshrc for the new user (perhaps only if you have selected csh
>|> as that user's login shell).  That would be consistant with several other
>|> Unix flavors.
>
>Adduser copies not the file in /etc/default, is copies
>/etc/stdcshrc and /etc/stdlogin.

After all, adduser is just a shell script, so why not edit it to copy
whatever you want to wherever you want it. For an example, my adduser
asks sysadm what shell will be assigned to user, assigns it, copies
the appropriate .login, .cshrc and .logout-files (different for tcsh,
csh and sh, of course), automaticly determines first free uid and asks 
for gid, sends welcome mail to user and creates a home directory (location
specified by gid) and adds his/her name to full name database (used by
the mail system...)

Petri
 
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From: jochen@busybit.mrz.sub.org (Jochen Fahrner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: SCO: loosing characters on serial port
Date: 16 Aug 92 08:46:46 GMT
Organization: Busybit's Software Labor, D-8068 Pfaffenhofen
X-Md4-Signature: 15287c6b726c032f2f1b4bb48cd7bffc

I have big trouble with my serial port on SCO Unix.
It looses characters during disk-i/o. It seems, that the adaptec 1542B
hostadapter occupies the bus too long during disk-i/o.

I have 16550A chips on my com-boards. The SCO driver supports them. I
also tried "fas" from Uwe Doering.
I changed the fifo trigger level with SCO sio to FCR_Rx1.
I changed the bus on/off time for the adaptec to 4/12.
Nothing of these worked. As soon as I copy a 1MB file, the driver
looses characters, about 10-20 characters at a time.

All seems to be configured correctly. I use CRTSFL in my atdialer and
I verified that CRTSFL is set during connection with cu (with stty -a
from another multiscreen). CLOCAL is not set during connection.
CTSFLOW and RTSFLOW are also not set. With fas I used a minor device
number of 80+port# and the /usr/lib/uucp/Dialer script.
The cable to the modem is a flat ribbon cable, all 25 pins connected
straight through. The modem is configured to use bidirectional hardware
flow control (\Q3 on a Best 14400EC). I use a port speed of 9600bps,
which should not be too high. My cpu is a 33 MHz 486DX, which should
be fast enough.

With cpu intensive programs running in the background, flowcontrol
works fine: screen scrolls, then stops, then scrolls without loosing
any character. But when copying 1Mb files in the background, it looses
many characters !

Has anyone a dumb serial card in conjunction with adaptec 1542B at
9600bps without character losses ?
Is it possible to get it working with an adaptec or is it not possible ?

N.B.
On another system (at work) I have errors in floppy read/writes in
conjunction with heavy disk i/o. This is probably the same problem,
the adaptec prevents the cpu from accessing the bus.
Probably you should not use bus master dma cards in ISA-bus systems !!!????

This is perhaps the reason, why AT&T doesn't support the adaptec.

Which SCSI Controller is supported by SCO Unix and does not use bus
master dma ? Perhaps the WD7000 ?

Jochen
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From: lang@monolith.hal.com (Tom Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: rn under Dell unix.
Keywords: inews, patch
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:51:12 GMT
Organization: HAL Computer Systems

In article <3301@ra.nrl.navy.mil> eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:
>>lang@monolith.hal.com (Tom Lang) writes:
>>
>>>In article <3295@ra.nrl.navy.mil> eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale) writes:
>>>>
>>>>	I am having trouble with the rn newsreader under Dell release 2.1.
>>>>Specifically, it posts articles with a return address of
>>>>eric@tantalus.dell.com, where my real return address is
>>>>eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil.  I grepped every file in /usr/dell... and replaced
>
>>
>>the inews in /usr/dell/nn/inews isn't used unless it's copied to
>>/usr/dell/cnews/lib, and it's not normally copied there unless a)
>>you're using nn, (not rn) and b) you're posting news via nntp.  
>
>	Well, I am using rn, not nn, so this means that we are not using
>/usr/dell/nn/inews, right?  How will it help me to replace inews??
>
I assumed your setup is that you're using rn but your news server is on 
another machine in your network. The Pnews command (which posts news) is
found in /usr/dell/rn/bin/Pnews. It is a shell script, and defines that 
configuration stuff comes from /usr/dell/cnews/lib. The inews in that 
directory by default is a shell script. /usr/dell/nn/inews is a binary. The
reason you'd copy it over the inews shell script is because you're using a
remote news server, and the binary supports this while the shell script
does not. (Why? I don't know... I found this by trial and error)

If this is your environment, then the "dell.com" embedded in the 
/usr/dell/nn/inews binary is the problem, and my patch script will fix it.

Caveat on the patch script: It doesn't check that the four bytes that are
replaced are actually "dell". You might want to verify the offset before
patching...

- Tom
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From: Frank@mindlink.bc.ca (Frank I. Reiter)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Ethernet Cards -- Questions
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:09:22 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Larry Snyder writes:
> 
> I would like to know if under Unix there is a noticable difference
> between a 8 and 16 bit card?  Does the driver in the kernel actually
> do 16 bit data transfers from the buss (assuming a 16 bit board)?

We use only the 16 bit (8013) versions so I can't comment on the speed
difference, but from an installation point of view it is nice being able to
jumper them to interrupt 10, 11, etc. in order to leave the lower numbered
interrupts free for other things.

Frank.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: SAS 2.0
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:48:28 GMT

shite@sinkhole.unf.edu (Stephen Hite) writes:

>  My experience with Esix 5.4 and VPIX 1.02 from Interactive is that
>it works except you can't mount DOS partitions, access the serial port
>or access 1.44 meg floppies (I use mdir for this instead).   

that appears to be pretty much limited -- can you print from
within DOS (print-screens for example)?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer)
Subject: Anyone get BIND 4.8.3 to work under System V
Organization: CAT-TALK Conferencing System, Clinton Township, MI
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:56:16 GMT

Has anyone gotten BIND to work under System V UNIX (ISC)?? The
version of named that is distributed with System V and XENIX is
lame and hangs quite often. Is there an archive somewhere that
contains a version of BIND which works under System V??. Please
respond by E-MAIL

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: rac@sherpa.uucp (Roger Cornelius)
Subject: SCSI vs fast SCSI
Organization: Personal System Computing :-) Gulfport, FL
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:48:52 GMT

I posted this to comp.periphs.scsi and received zero replies, so
now I'm trying here.


In the case of hard disk drives, does fast SCSI provide a significant
performance increase over plain SCSI?  One controller vendor suggested
that fast SCSI pushes the envelope and is more succeptible to failure
and for our purposes will provide no benefit.  Their controller
supports fast SCSI, but they claim plain SCSI will perform just as
well for our application (Unix server with disk attached to intelligent
caching controller).

Can anyone comment?

Thanks.
-- 
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From: spxtrb@thor.cf.ac.uk (Tim Barnett - programmer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Has anyone configured GNU:binutils(1.94b) for SCO ?
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:39:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

Platform: SCO ODT 3.2

I have compiled a reasonable sized library (getting on for 2Mb) and ld/ar
just cant cope with the size of the external-symbol table.  Hard coded
limits (by the look of it) ... I would rat about SCO, but this seems about
par for the course for them.

I got a copy of GNU binutils-1.94-beta (I configured it for i386-sco-sysv)
and it compiles wonderfully (using gcc-2.2.2) ... seems to be a fine
replacement except that the linker it creates accepts i386 object files and
tries to produce 68020 executables from them.

Is there anyone out there who has compiled binutils-1.94-beta on SCO ODT,
who could tell me how I have erred in configuring the package ?

Many thanks in advance for any help,
Tim
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: WHY ARE FREE OS'S IGNORED?!
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:29:29 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <steve.713329428@crash>, steve@crash.cts.com (Steve Morrison) writes:

| If Linux does all this, I'd like to know too.   All I know is the name.
| Is there a FAQ???
	Yes, see comp.os.linux
| Who archives it???
	Several sites, tsx-11.mit.edu for one
| Who maintains the source???
	You do. Linus does most of the kernel, some other people are
	doing gcc and X, and lots of us are porting apps.
| Can you get binaris for Intel/ST506/VGA sytems?????
	Binsry disk images.

Note that while Linux works and is free, there is lots of stuff in
development. The C and X are in fine shape, virtual memory, shared
libraries, etc, but there are some things in the kernal on the pending
list, particularly in the IPC and networking area.

It's ready today to be a compile, news and mail machine, but networking
is minimal, and IPC is coming. Nice cheap home o/s, but I just got a new
Dell 2.2 release for the serious home use machine.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: ken@sugra.uucp (Kenneth Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Posting source to non-source groups (was: Re: FAS 2.10 ...)
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:29:07 GMT
Organization: Private Computer, Totowa NJ

In article <760@ncrsaud.SaudiArabia.NCR.COM:, kbahey@ncrsaud.SaudiArabia.NCR.COM (Khalid Bahey-elDin) writes:
: In article <1992Aug18.113842.28354@pixie.aii.com> jbh@aii.com and article
: Our site too has to pay for the news feed, that is the company pays for it.
:We only get a few Usenet groups for that reason, because we get charged by both
: TIME and VOLUME, since this is an international X.25 connection, and the speed
: is only 2400 baud.
: 
: Therefore, if the posting of source will be lengthy, I'd prefer, IMHO, that it
: be only *announced* in non-source groups, and those who want it can ftp/uucp/
: ftpmail/e-mail, ..etc. from the appropriate archives/persons.
:I think this is more appropriate in a international network like Usenet, and to
: ease bandwidth load.

While this will often work in theory, what usually happens is that there are
a few hundred "I don't have ftp access" or "I do not get that group, could
someone e-mail them to me" messages that follow up the post announcement.
While the volume will probably be less than the total of the FAS driver, it
is a bit annoying to go through all the followup postings.  Of course what
one should do is subscribe to the proper source groups (which is what I do).
But there always seem to be newbees that get a couple groups and think that
is all they need.

By the way, I also pay *PERSONALLY* for news (the phone call), so I can
appreciate the point of view.

: P.O.Box 13964, Jeddah 21414 | UUCP:  ..!uunet!ncrlnk!ncrsaud!kbahey
                                          ^^^^^

Isn't there a place closer than uunet to you folks?  Or is this just
a well known reference point for uucp mail?

-- 
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Please reply to kdn5669@hertz.njit.edu for now.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: slangley@constant.demon.co.uk (Simon Langley)
Subject: Re: nntp for esix
Organization: Home
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:48:54 GMT

Joubert Berger (joubert@teldata.UUCP) wrote:
: Has anyone ported nntp to Esix?  If so, where can I get patches?
: 			    Joubert
I am running nntp on ESIX SVR4.  I think it is the nntpd.1.5.11 that is 
available for anon ftp on lots of sites (check archie).  If you have tried
this email me and I shall try to sort out some diffs.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: rick@rei2.uucp (Richard J. Barton)
Subject: Re: Need help getting X running under SysV R4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:27:48 GMT
Organization: REI

resnicks@netcom.com (Steve Resnick) writes:


>Okay, so I just went out and got ESIX Sys V R4. I got it all installed,
>and voila! No X-windows. X is installed, but I get the error message:

>	Fatal server bug
>	No screens found!

I don't know about ESIX, but you might want to ensure that you can
ping to yourself.  You might want to make sure that the environment
variable DISPLAY is set to your-system-name:0.  Also check for a
configuration file under the X directory.  It might have some settings
needed to be taylored.  Good luck.

-- 
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: Dell SVR4 (and Dell hardware)
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:40:51 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug7.155936@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov>, asmcclan@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Andrew S. McClanahan [DH4]) writes:

| DX2 is a 25mhz motherboard, a major marketing deception by Intel.  I
| wanted a 50mhz 486DX with hopes of upgrading to the 100mhz DX2.

Deceives the SPEC folks too, the DX2-50 runs at about 92-95% of the
speed of the DX, and for less money, and at lower power. If you're
saying that the speed is not quite as fast as a 50DX, that's true. But
cost performance is better from most vendors who offer both, memory is
70 instead of 60, and the lower power should mean it lasts longer.

Was someone deceived or did someone not do their homework.

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