HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shaw@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jim Shaw)
Subject: Re: marking or labelling cdroms
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:25:57 GMT

I'd be wary of using an adhesive of any sort on a CD-ROM without
knowing its acidity.  I would not want to inadvertantly create
a situation where the laminate could be compromised several years
down the line.  [We library people always have to think in terms
of decades and centuries when it comes to preservation.]

I think I've seen advertisements in recent issues of _Library
Journal_ and _American Libraries_ touting new label products
designed for electronic and optical media.  I've not seen any
studies on their utility or long-term viability.

Check the latest Brodart, Highsmith, Boise Cascade, etc. catalogs,
too.  They market to libraries;  maybe they have some experience
with CD-ROM labels.  

In the audiophile press of people have complained of damaged
music CDs after trying to tweak them with various nostrums intended
to improve sound quality.  The Armour All controversy in Stereophile
a couple of years ago leaps to mind.


-- 
Jim Shaw, Reference Librarian      |Internet: shaw@cwis.unomaha.edu
University Library                 |AT&T: 402-554-2225; FAX:402-554-3215
University of Nebraska at Omaha    |Don't lend a hand to raise a flag
Omaha, NE  68182-0237              |atop a ship of fools--G. Dead
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: mjh4@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Mark Jonathan Handel)
Subject: Re: NEW TEXEL DRIVE
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  8 Oct 92 18:58:59 GMT

I'm getting this from an article on CD-ROMs in the Sept '92 New Media

There seem to be 2 models, which both come in an internal and external
configuration. One IS multi-session, the other is not. The one with
Multi-session compatibilty (DM-3024; DM-5024 (Int/Ext)) has a seek
of 270msec and a data transfer of 300Kb/sec
The other player is not photo-cd compatible, and has a transfer rate
of 150Kb/sec and a seek time of 340 msec.

Texel America: 800.886.3935

If anyone else has any experience with this dirve, I would be interested in
hearing what you have to say. It almost seems to good to be true...

Mark Handel (not associated with anyone)
From: jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Reading audio as data?
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:57:54 GMT
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

scotty@gagetalker.com (Scott Turner) writes:
article <1992Oct9.173832.11423@netcom.com> tcumming@netcom.com (Tom Cumming)  
>writes:
>|>     From my understanding, only the the CDROM drive that comes w/
>|> SGI machines can read the audio portion of a CD as data. I also understand
>|> that CDROM drive manufactures have agreed not to make drives that can
>|> read the audio. *However* I hope that my understanding is *wrong*!
>|> 
>|>     Has anyone encountered a CDROM drive that can read the audio as data?
>|> 
>|>     Please post... I am not the only one interested in this.
>|> 
>|> Thanx, Tom C.
>No, you aren't wrong.
>Currently the only computer controlled path from CD to computer hard disk
>is via DAT. There are boards that can suck data from a CD optical port, but
>CD player control is manual.

so now, given this, that toshiba drives with sgi-special firmware can 
read audio data back onto the scsi bus for transport to the hard disk,
who would like to see me write a driver for an intel platform that will
allow that functionality on say, sco unix? svr4?

i have worked with the sgi version(src level) and grok the mechanics.
as a software writer, i couldnt sell my way out of a wet paper bag.

if i write an app/driver to read the audio back to hard disk, say to/from dat,
and perhaps even back out to a cdrom writer, who would be willing
to commit to sell such an app on either of the 2 os's i mentioned?

i'm real tired of writing software(which i have a ton of) for optic
units and no one to sell it.

please respond to the addr's below. i'm sure the net isnt interested
in my endeavours.

thanks, jack...
=============================================================================
 Jack Craig  Microport         SVR4 408-438-UNIX   uunet!mport.com!jack
             Software Horizons SVR3 408-684-1375   uunet!sco.com!blznrzn!jack
=============================================================================
From: JPEREIRA@ITECCOL.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Advise sought: running DOS sw using an Infoserver 150
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: JPEREIRA@ITECCOL.bitnet
Distribution: alt
Organization: FUNET-NGW

Advise sought: running DOS sw on a Vax using Infoserver.

We have an Infoserver 150 and a Vax station 4000 VLC running VMS and
the DecSoft PC emulation software.

We are trying to run on the Vax station a D.O.S. application
(developed by UMI) but the system does not recognize the compact disc
labels (it displays 00000) so we can't even make the disc visible.

In our PC with a Toshiba CD-ROM drive (with SCSI interface) the UMI
application runs normally.

We appreciate any help that you can give us.

=====================================================================
Juan Manuel Pereira                  JPEREIRA@ITECCOL
Computer Science Engineer
CIT - Technical Information Center
ITEC - Telecommunications Research Institute
TELECOM - National Telecommunications Enterprise
Santafe de Bogota, COLOMBIA.
====================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.periphs.scsi
From: david@infopro.com (Dragon [David Fiedler])
Subject: Re: CD ROM
Organization: InfoPro Systems: Writers, Consultants, and Dragons
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 21:19:31 GMT

jerry@incc.com (Jerry Rocteur) writes:


>I've just ordered a new 50 MHZ system from Continental to run ODT 2.0
>and I was toying with the idea of putting a CD ROM drive on it, I am 
>not sure whether to do that or not, I have dos PCs in my office and it i
>s about time I bought a CD ROM drive, but is it worth it installing one 
>on an ODT 2.0 machine ??

>I know that ODT comes on CD ROM but apart from that, will I be able to
>read all those great CD ROMs I see advertised, is there software like
>MSCDEX for UNIX that I can use to read CD ROMs.

If you get a supported SCSI CD-ROM drive, the drivers are in place in 
ODT to let you read any High-Sierra/ISO 9660 (i.e. virtually any 
"normal" CD-ROM, even DOS-oriented ones) CD-ROM. Reboot under DOS and 
you should be able to read them under DOS too, if you have MSCDEX for 
your controller. You can access the CD-ROM under Merge (I just checked) 
but the file names are all remapped. Adding MSCDEX and the /etc/dosdev
stuff to Merge will probably let everything work fine. I'm going to be
trying adding the Soundblaster to Merge this week, write me if you want to
know how that came out.
-- 
David Fiedler    UUCP:{netcomsv,utoday}!infopro!david               AIR: N3717R
"The future is tekon."   Internet: david@infopro.com or david@utoday.com 
USMail:InfoPro Systems, PO Box 220 Rescue CA 95672 Phone:916/677-5870 FAX:-5873
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: SSCHEMA@ibm.gwdg.de (Stefan Schemat)
Subject: CD-ROM NEC 74
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 09:52:41 MEZ

Hi,
I have tried everything but my brand new NEC CD-ROM won't work
with my IBM-PC (DOS 5.0) in data-mode. This is my last trial - if
it fails I think I need the help of a psychologist.
This is my configuration
486 PC
Quantum SCSI harddisk SCSI ID0
Adaptec 1452b SCSI ID7
SyQuest removeable disk SQ555 SCSI ID2
NEC CD-ROM 74 SCSI ID3
No parity check
Config.sys
device=setver.exe
lastdrive=m
device=aspi4dos.sys /L/D
device=aspidisk.sys
device=aswcdnec.sys /d:aspicd0 (version 2.1 - is there a newer one?)
autoexec.bat
mscdex /d:aspicd0 /l:E /m:15 /v /e
 
Ciao Stefan (sschema@ibm.gwdg.de)
From: posey@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Posey)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: DAK offer
Keywords: DAK, music
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:34:41 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Does anyone have an opinion on DAK's latest offer -
a BSR 6800MX drive plus a Music Launching program
to play audio CD-s through your computer ...

All this for $199.90 ...
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Sony CD Rom
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:18:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

SD>I need some help!
SD>
SD>  At a recent computer flea-market, there was a company selling
SD>Sony CD-Rom drives that "supposedly" had a SCSI interface.
SD>The price was right (or so I thought) so I bought one, intending
SD>to put it in an external box to connect to my current SCSI host
SD>adapter.  Much to my chagrin, when I got it home and checked, it had
SD>a 40 pin connector on the drive rather than the 50 pin one I was 
SD>expecting.
SD>
SD>  After numerous phone calls and a large run-around, I found out
SD>that the drive had a proprietary SCSI interface.  I have been unable to 
SD>locate the merchant that sold me the drive, Sony told me to contact
SD>Cables To Go because they make the cables for Sony, and Cables To Go
SD>said that they can't make the cable for me because it is a proprietary
SD>Sony interface.
SD>
SD>  So now the real question.  Other than telling me that I got taken,
SD>(I already know that!!) what are my options?  Do I just need a 
SD>cable to go from the 40 pin connector to a 50 pin connector or
SD>is there more involved?  Is anybody familiar with the Sony 
SD>CDU 535 drive?  How non-standard is Sony's SCSI interface?

The Sony CDU-535 is not SCSI; it is Sony proprietary. You need a Sony 
controller and cable to operate it, or you can use a cheap ProCom
controller, which only will operate one drive. I can sell you whichever
one you want. Give me a call at 408 255-4900.
---
 . KingQWK 1.05 # 141 . 
                                                                                         
Xref: sparky alt.cd-rom:3679 comp.periphs.scsi:4995
From: wade@nb.rockwell.com (Wade Guthrie)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Which (inexpensive) SCSI CD-ROM to buy?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:03:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: nb.1992Oct15.160313.18056
Organization: Rockwell International



I want to buy a CD-ROM for my PC. I have an Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller (I
figured that SCSI would be more compatible with a possible future upgrade to
UNIX than adding a CD-ROM to my soundblaster pro).

I have seen two SCSI CD-ROMs in the 350ms range for sale in the $330 price
arena (I've found no SCSI CD-ROMs cheaper): the Chinon (I don't know the
model number) and the Texel DM-3021.

My questions are these:
	- is there anything wrong with either of these drives?
	- should I be concerned with reliability?
	- can either of the drives do audio?
	- are there any features for which I should look other than
	  speed, audio, and SCSI-ness?  Anything that these don't have?
	- is there a better drive in the same price category?
	- is there a must-have drive in another price category?
	- what is the air-speed velocity [sic] of an unladen swallow?

Thanks bunches and bunches.

Wade
wade@nb.rockwell.com
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: i want a cdrom drive!!!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:16:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>I do not advise you to go for SCSI if you use a PC, because you will be stuck
>with the manufacturer's SCSI driver. There is not need for special device
>driver for IDE because it is the standard for IBM Pc architectures.
*----
You have some real misconceptions about that.  First, all of the
sound card CD-ROM interfaces require drivers, and guess what, only
the manufacturer supplies them.  So you will be dependent on the
manufacturer's PROPRIETARY driver.  Is that worse than being
dependent on his SCSI driver?

Secondly, you are wrong.  There is third-party support for a
number of SCSI controllers.  Adaptec's ASPI standard is supported
by others, including Corel (which generates about 75% of all
the proprietary SCSI stuff for other manufacturers from what
I've read).  Western Digital supported CAS (is that right?),
and software for that is available from Columbia Data Products
among others.  Bustek controllers are virtual clones of the
Adaptec (and Bustek has software too).

So going with SCSI doesn't have to lock you into a proprietary
standard (well, don't get a Longshine or other weird controller).
A sound board interface almost always WILL (at least one of
them purports to have a Trantor interface, and that is well-
supported.  Trantor covers most of the ground Corel misses).
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: dodd@mycenae.cchem (N/A)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Colin's Sandwich
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:04:42
Organization: Dept of Chemical Engineering, Polytechnic Univ, NY, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz's message of Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:53:24 GMT


>>>>> "Nathan" == Nathan Torkington <gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz> writes:

  Nathan> Colin's Sandwich screened here in New Zealand about three or four
  Nathan> years ago, and was absolutely excellent.  Mel Smith is a brilliant
  Nathan> comedian, and the writing (Colin Bostock-Smith?) was top-flight.

  Nathan> I particularly loved the 'diet' episode :-)

The three I have seen have relied heavily on hearing his thoughts while the
rest of the scene is progressing normally.  It was extremely funny and
extremely effective.  In one of the shows he was going to apologize to someone
for being rude the night before.  As he walks up to the door he keeps
repeating to himself again and again what he is going to say: "I'm sorry about
last night. I didn't mean to suggest that you were boring..."  When she opens
the door he says very sincerely "I'm sorry you were so boring last night."
Very funny.

Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
From: catstyle@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Jason R. Heimbaugh)
Subject: Re: GREAT BLACK ADDER SCRIPT PROJECT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:11:16 GMT

In article <1ata8dINNs37@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> keeper@deeptht.armory.com writes:
>>4. The Queen of Spain's Beard (1492)  IN PROGRESS (Tia - The Black Add'ress)
>>5. Witchsmeller Pursuivant (1495)  IN PROGRESS (Tia - The Black Add'ress)
>
>These two are done -- I edited them and have them on my own disk.
>I guess she hasn't got round to uploading them yet...?

Both are on cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu.

CatStyle
jrh@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: BlackAdder Summary????
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:07:04 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Oct8.085953.25548@walter.cray.com> jason@cray.com (Jason Parker) writes:
>In article <dzfpqdf@lynx.unm.edu>, davros@triton.unm.edu (Seymour Butt) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> >>>   Well after pestering our local pbs channel
>> >>>   they finally got Blackadder
>> >>>   i been waiting over five years for this
>> >>>   is there a list of summary of episodes
>> >>>   I saw that there was a script site
>> >>>   but all i need is a summary of each episode
>> >>>
>> >>>  thanks
>> >>  -ketan-
>
>Yes, I happen to have a summary.  I found it on a news group sometime
>ago.  I don't know who to thank for it, maybe the person is listed in
>there somewhere.  I'll post one summary for each series shortly.
>
>Jason

I'll my thanks in advance for your postings.  I just logged in to ask
if anyone had BA summaries (I am trying to figure out what I have on 
tape) and found Seymour Butt had beat me to the asking.

SO thank you for your summaries - I look forward to finding out what
I have on tape. :-)









Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Subject: Re: I need consensus on BA wording
Keywords: BlackAdder
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:58:51 GMT


>  I'm starting to revise the Reworked BA quotes, and I need a consensus on
>a certain word.  The word is from BA4 "GoodByeee", and is when BA pretends 
>to be insane.  How do you think "wubble" "wobble" or "wibble" should be     
>spelled, or what you think should be the right way.
Um..  I usually say wubble, but some peeps I know say it shouldn't
have any vowls... wbbl.

MNSio
From: bell@monet.cs.unc.edu (Andrew Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Black Adder series I summary
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:04:54 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <92Oct09.173015.36002@acs.ucalgary.ca> garbe@jasper.phys.ucalgary.ca (Greg Garbe) writes:
>|> 3. Potato       ( Jan 23, 1986)
>|> Sir Walter Raleigh (Simon Jones) returns from exploring the New World.
>|> Edmund decides to do some exploring to impress the Queen with the aid
>|> of Captain Rum (Tom Baker).

>Is this the same Tom Baker of Dr. Who fame?

Yes.  Simon Jones is also of note to British Sci-Fi fans, as he played
Arthur Dent in "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."

   -Andrew Bell
bell@cs.unc.edu



Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Colin's Sandwich
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:53:24 GMT
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand

Colin's Sandwich screened here in New Zealand about three or four
years ago, and was absolutely excellent.  Mel Smith is a brilliant
comedian, and the writing (Colin Bostock-Smith?) was top-flight.

I particularly loved the 'diet' episode :-)

Nat
From: Robert.Hartill@cm.cf.ac.uk ('Tis I)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Carry On Columbus
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:12:14 GMT
Organization: Computing Maths (COMMA), UWCC, Wales, UK

David Bromage wrote...
-|
-|I recently saw a TV news item about Carry on Columbus.
-|
-|As far as I can make out, the cast is Jim Dale (as Columbus), Rik Mayall,
-|Nigel Planer, Alexie Sayle and Julian Clary.
-|
-|Can anyone elaborate? What about Kenneth Connor, Barbara Windsor, Bernard
-|Bresslaw, etc?
-|
-|Cheers

The Carry On veterans include:

Jim Dale, Jack Douglas, Bernard Cribbins, Leslie Phillips,
June Whitfield and Jon Pertwee.

it also stars:

Rik Mayall, Alexei Sayle, Julian Clary, Peter Richardson,
Martin Clunes, Nigel Planer, Tony Slattery, Keith Allen, Daniel
Peacock, Maureen Lipman, Richard Wilson, Sara Crowe, Don Henderson,
Larry Miller and Charles Fleischer.

Information from 'Flicks' October 1992.


I'm told that it's crap. But who cares ?
 
--
    ____Robert Hartill, Dept Of Computing Mathematics, UWCC, Cardiff, UK.____
    \______e-mail : rhl@cm.cf.ac.uk _________ Fax : +44 (0)222 666182_______/
    Show me a man who is a good loser and I'll show you a man who is playing
		      golf with his boss. -Author unknown
From: Andy.Taylor@brunel.ac.uk (Andy J Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: British comedy shows! (Whitehouse, Enfield, etc.)
Keywords: shows comedy Whitehouse Enfield
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:42:03 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <1992Oct2.081448.3343@spider.co.uk> andrewc@spider.co.uk
(Andrew Cannon) writes:

Re: Mary Whitehouse:
>
>She has now watched more smut, pornography and violent films/television than
>anyone else in the world.
>
>What I want to know is:-
>
>How come it has'nt affected her mind ?
>
>She has been telling us for the last 30 years or so that all the smut/violence
>/porn TURNS YOUR BRAIN TO JELLY AND TURNS YOU INTO A HOMOCIDAL SEX MANIAC if
>you watch it. Why is'nt she affected ? Could it be that it does'nt TURN YOUR
>BRAIN TO JELLY AND TURN YOU INTO A HOMOCIDAL SEX MANIAC ?
>

Mrs Whitehouse says she passes all such smut/violence straight on to
Scotland Yard.  I wonder what their video society is like? |-)

Andy

-- 
********************************************************************
* Andy.Taylor@brunel.ac.uk       * Henley Management College, UK   * 
********************************************************************
* "...And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space *
* Cos there's bugger all down here on Earth." - Monty Python       *
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From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Mr Bean on ITV last night
Date: 15 Oct 1992 04:56:49 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Mr Bean fans may like to know that Rowan Atkinson appeared *IN CHARACTER*
as Mr Bean on the Des O'Connor show last night.  He bounced on the seats
and talked about his girlfriend - it was quite amusing.

No, I didn't tape it.

 ----------------------------------- 
|  Steve P                    (..)  |
|  eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk   ()   |
 -----------------------------------
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 17:36:32 EDT
From: <MDSQC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Monty Python

As I have been warned, I HAVE NOT READ ALL OF THE FOLLOWUPS TO THIS LETTER!!!
So, call me a sinner. I just want to point out to all of you Monty Python
adoring people (ie, I just love monty python. - or - I just love monty python
fans. - or - I just love to love monty... you get the idea) that there's a
monty python conference at alt.fan.monty-python. Pop by. Where' kind of a
silly bunch (some people don't like that), but a serious post will get a
serious answer.
And don't be scared to write.

-- Sal aka I am not addicted to monty python. monty python. monty python.

You can find me at your neighborhood grocery store in
  the breakfast foods aisle, or by sending bits, bytes and
    burps to: MDSQC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU, or by yodeling words, songs
      and, yes, burps to Work:1(718)260-3349 or School:1(212)339-????
        or Home:1(718)859-7012, with a machine on the first two.

            The Saviour of Breakfast, Away!
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
From: maton@herald.usask.ca (Terry Maton)
Subject: Re: mary whitehouse
Originator: maton@herald.usask.ca
Reply-To: maton@herald.usask.ca
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:32:24 GMT

From article <1992Oct7.1825.211@ALMAC>, by shakib.otaqui@almac.co.uk:
> AC>   She has now watched more smut, pornography and violent films/television than
>   >   anyone else in the world.
> 
> AC>   What I want to know is:-
> 
> AC>   How come it has'nt affected her mind ?
> 
>
  COME ON NOW - you're not serious with that last point are you??  ;)

-- 
Terry Maton
University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

INTERNET:   maton@sask.usask.ca   or   maton@herald.usask.ca
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Hugh Laurie Sighting
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:43:13 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology

Yes.
From: phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: I need consensus on BA wording
Date: 14 Oct 1992 12:03:11 +0100
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Keywords: BlackAdder

  WW     WW  IIIIIIII  BBBBBB   BBBBBB   UU    UU  LL       LL
  WW  W  WW     II     BB   BB  BB   BB  UU    UU  LL       LL
  WW WWW WW     II     BBBBBB   BBBBBB   UU    UU  LL       LL
  WW W W WW     II     BB   BB  BB   BB  UU    UU  LL       LL
   WW  WW    IIIIIII   BBBBBB   BBBBBB    UUUUUU   LLLLLLL  LLLLLL

could be it you know, lets start a new use group called

alt.comedy.british.i.need.consensus.on.ba.wording

How do you start a new newsgroup anyway
-- 
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From: dodd@mycenae.cchem (N/A)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Colin's Sandwich
Date: 10 Oct 92 10:25:04
Organization: Dept of Chemical Engineering, Polytechnic Univ, NY, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu



I just saw my third episode of Colin's Sandwich.  I think it's fantastic.  I
was wondering whether anyone else is familiar with this program.