HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Lane-splitting ticket
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:18:16 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

fester@etorofu.island.COM writes:

>OK guys, I need your help.

>His answer; section 21658(A) of the 
>California Vehicle Code (all Hail!). He says this involves unsafe passing,
>and that ALL lane-splitting falls into this category. 

>21658(A)VC-Lane straddling-lane splitting (Note: He never mentioned straddling)

>Speed
>APPROX 35    PF/MAX 55	(note; I was doing about 15 mph).

>So, how shall I fight this? Anyone with any good legal advice, preparation tips

First off, here's what you were charged with:

21658(A)  A vehicle shall be driven as nearly as practical entirely within
a single lane and shall not be moved from the lane until such movement can
be made with reasonable safety.

If I were in this situation, this is what I'd do:  After the cop gives his
side of the story, I'd ask to cross-examine him.  I'd ask specific questions
about where he was and where I was when he first sighted me, and where he
went from there.  Then I'd ask if he could actually see my tires where they
contacted the road.  Hopefully he'd already have said he was in a different
lane, which would imply that he did not have an unobstructed view.  After
getting this information, I'd explain my case to the judge, which was that
my entire motorcycle was completely within one lane as I rode, and that the
cop was not in a position to be able to tell otherwise.  I'd also probably
add that I was going slower than the cop estimated, and cars were moving over 
for me.

Unfortunately, it's your word against the cops, and you can probably guess
who the judge is going to believe.  As Phil mentioned, Marin county hates
motorcycles, and you won't be the first to try and fight a ticket for lane
splitting.  If you have the option of traffic school you might want to 
consider just swallowing your indignation and taking it, to avoid the
possibility of points on your record.  Be forwarned that the price has
gone way up recently, though.  Good luck, let us know what happens if you
decide to fight it!
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:27:07 GMT

In article <Jul.22.18.16.06.1992.4441@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.150447.25833@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>> I wasn't paying attention like I should have, and an illegally parked
>> car partially obstructed my view of the other moving car.  The accident
>> should not have happened.)
>> --
>> Jonathan E. Quist
>
>Should my accident have happened?  How can you tell?  Do you have a
>magic 8-ball?
>

I don't know.  I wasn't there.  What accident?

Why do I need a magic 8-ball to admit to making a mistake?
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Get this! (Was: Pooder returns (offer))
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:21:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Jul22.212118.7038
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing

In article <1992Jul22.141653.906@msus1.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John) writes:
> Don, I am the systems manager for Winona State U. and as you know, we have
> a Rochester campus.  I can give you an account
> on a Vax (or ATT or RISC) and maybe even the AS/400 so you can dial
> into the Rochester site and have EMail and Internet access.  

John here is none other than the hardcore OLDCHOP of Harley Mailing List
fame that thinks anything other than a rigid panhead (or earlier) is a
pussy ride for yuppie scum.  He bites the heads off Evo(lution) riders
for breakfest and even sneers at people that ride those wimpy shovels.

Pretty damn amazing that he offers net.access to an other brander and a
green newbie at that!  I knew his mind was going when the knucklehead
screwed up a list in a recent post.

- Roid
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Children suck
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:43:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Jul23.101439.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu> mulman@hmcvax.claremont.edu (Mike Ulman) writes:
>Why suck animosity towards children? Childhood is something we all gotta go
>through. We were those annoying little brats ourselves. Just think of it as
>those kids having revenge on us for all those adults that we annoyed in our
>childhoods!

Worse than that; turn a little kid against motorcycles today, and he'll
grow up and pass anti-motorcycle laws, or run you off the road, or, or...
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeff@MicroUnity.com (Jeff 'Giga-hurts' Kaskey)
Subject: Mixed-up Dealers
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:50:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.180040.21296@rchland.ibm.com>, pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn) writes:
  The other local shops have Harley/Yahama, Kawasaki/Suzuki, and 
|> Norton/Ducati/Cagiva/Husky.
 
In Livermore, of all places, we have a Bimota/Husky/Ducati dealer. 
Interesting that they're still in business, but the local Honda dealer
went belly-up.

tfk
From: kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Opinoins on Racing Schools
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:05:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

So, here we are...

My roommate is thinking about taking one of the courses at the
California Superbike School this winter, and he's taking the
racing classes out at PIR this weekend.  Have anyone else
attended these schools or others and have any comments or opinions
they would like to share.  I'll probably take a class next
summer.  Thanks for any information.  Email or post is fine....

Bye.

Kevin (92-GOOF2-BLUE)
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Questions and thoughts on this summer.
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:52:21 GMT


Question:
why is lugging the engine bad for the engine?

Deep Thoughts:
OK so is it just me or has the increase in REAL (not tip overs) 
accidents this summer? it seems to me like there has been about
a 10 fold increase in accidents this summer.


Laszlo Nemeth
pond_scum_sucker@cs.colorado.edu
"hey - my tool works (yeah, you can quote me on that)." From elef@Sun.COM
"My you have a long dipstick" Jill Lundquist
"Harleys make to much noise. I guess I've just become a BMW snob" Mikii
Not many men can say they made a woman orgasm and laugh at the same time.
DoD #0666          UID #1999
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: brand-new seca knocked over by ruffians
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:16:33 GMT

In article <root.711993701@zen> root@ESD.3Com.COM (Andy Chan) writes:

>This sucks, I wish motorcycles had some kind of springy things
>on the sides, so that when the tip over, they absorb most, if not,
>all of the shock.  Just think of the money you could save.

perhaps with springs tuned such that they'd pop the bike right back up
onto the sidestand :-)  but that wouldn't work for the ducati/bmw crowd...

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
|       Don't look to me for proof that women get off easier than men.     |
|                               -- Evelyn                                  |
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From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Responsible Motorcycling (part 2 of 2)
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:24:13 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <3571@cvbnetPrime.COM>, rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:
> In article <147emtINNgpa@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> dorsey@coke.ebay.sun.com writes:
> > *** Interesting picture of "somebody" on "somebody's" crotch
> > *** rocket...deleted
> 
> So Bill, what are you trying to say here?  Are you announcing
> that after a couple of years of quiet aquiesence you are coming
> out of the closet to terrorize the constabulary figures of So. Ca.
> once again?  Tell me that wasn't you?  I thought that maybe you'd
> turned over a new leaf and had become respectable in deed as well
> as looks 8-).
> 
> Hmmmm?? 
> 
> 
> Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com

	Great pictures!!!! I am a bit surprised that there are not
	any little girls chasing tennis balls or cats being crushed
	under Bill "Outlaw" Dorsey's wheels.  I suppose the months
	of self-inflicted time-out has mellowed the boy.  Of course,
	I thought that Bill was still behind bars; come to think of it,
	what proof is there that this is indeed the "Outlaw" himself.
	He certainly didn't make any claims to that effect.  Maybe he
	is still behind bars and the "authorities" slipped up and let
	him have a few fatal moments of net access.

	An interesting possibility just struck me: has anybody ever
	seen Bill Dorsey and Salmon Rushdie together?  I think that in
	the absence of contrary information we must consider that they
	are one and the same person.  Wow!!! It fits!!!

	Whatever the truth is, let it be forever hidden behind thick
	clouds of banal speculation.

	Hey Bill, Jayne and I just had pizza at Beau Jo's in
	Idaho Springs; remember that place?  "Best pizza in Colorado",
	and "Home of the Big One."  For the newbies, there was a great
	gathering of Dod'ers for a "Squids on Ski's" weekend about
	two or three seasons ago, back when Chuck Karish actually had
	a motorcycle that could make it to Colorado, where "somebody's"
	high-performance rental skis were stolen, where we learned that
	elderly British people aren't totally useless (especially on
	skis), back in the days before Ilana "Peter Pan" Stern grew
	up and quit the frivolous role as "Sweetheart of the DoD."

	Ah, those were the good old days.  Wish my memory was better.


-- 
    66
     >
     ^ .................. brucer " r.m.h; accept no substitutes " (DoD #0002)
-- 
    66
     >
     ^ .................. brucer " r.m.h; accept no substitutes " (DoD #0002)
From: timmi@asylum.sf.ca.us (Timothy G. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Why only 3 out of 4 pipes are hot?
Keywords: pipes hot cold
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:35:31 GMT
Reply-To: timmi@babyoil.ftp.com
NNTP-Software: PC/TCP NNTP

In article <84718@netnews.upenn.edu> ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George Grevera) writes:

>Hi.  I have an '81 Honda CB650 (4 air-cooled cylinders).  One day after
>riding it for 1/2 hour, I touched the exhaust pipe coming off cylinder
>#1 and noticed that it wasn't all that hot.  Then I touched 2, 3, and
>4 and noticed that they were hot as hell.  I have repeated this with
>the same results.  Why the difference?

Well, this happened with my '82 CB650 and the dead cylinder was #4.
The problem with mine, and most likely yours, was a dirty, gummed-up
carb.  The #4 (#1 in your case) carb is probably junked-up and is
either starving or flooding that cylinder.  You could pay a bike shop
over $300 to have a carb overhaul done, or you could get a shop
manual and spend  saturday afternoon removing and cleaning the carbs.
I paid for it and regretted not doing the work myself.  Just my $.02.
--
Timothy G. Reynolds					FTP Software
FTP Technical Support					26 Princess St.
timmi@ftp.com						Wakefield, MA
(617) 246-2920							01880

	"We're well into the later half of the twentieth century,
	 paranoid misogyny is just plain out of style."
From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rant, etc
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:21:19 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Jul27.170244.7718@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>
>Seems to me the topic of national health care has nothing to do with
>motorcycling.
>

Yah, well, you gotta point there.  It was an unashamed pure soapbox
rant.  So here's a topic that's apt to generate as many flam - er,
opinions, and IS about bikes.

What do you all consider the minimum reasonable displacement for highway
riding?

- Leigh Ann
--
Leigh Ann Hussey Oster
leighann@sybase.com			DoD#5913	AMA#624549
Siobhan ni hEodhusa
"They're mine!  All mine!  And what's mine is mine!" - Daffy Duck
From: ssuhouns@SUMA1.RDG.AC.UK (Paul Marshall Hounslow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Questions for K100RS owners
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:21:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: subnode.29620.9207311521

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Questions for K100RS owners

jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette) writes:
 
>In article <1992Jul29.114101.23948@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:>>clayb@county.lmt.mn.org (Clay Babcock) writes:
>>A big problem is the 120 mile range of the tank.
>> This is very very annoying but I don't see what I can do about this,
>> apart from riding slower.   :)

>My 89 K100RS goes 165 miles before it hits reserve (1 more gallon).  I ride
>70-80 mph-ish on the highways.  Perhaps all those wheelies makes the mileage
>look lower!  :-)

Don't forget that UK and US gallons are different.  I think that US ones are
smaller ;-)

I have averaged 40 miles to the (UK) gallon, on my K100RT over the 75,000+ miles
and 7+ years I've had it.

Mum; I want, I want, please, I want,        a   a new K1100LT please, please,
WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

;-)


Paul

----
73's de Paul                         The smelling pistakes are all my own.
Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk  1985 K100RT                 DoD #0573
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Share your scare stories:Ever put the bike down two-up?
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:43:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <4915@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
>I've read lots o' high-side, low-side stories about solo riders.
>Has anyone ever had to lay it down with a passenger sitting behind
>you?
>

My two best (worst?) get-offs were two up - once as driver and once as
passenger.

As a passenger we were going around an on-ramp that was decreasing radius
two-up on a old honda 750.  Both the driver and I knew the curve quite
well.  It wasn't a hard curve, and I was quite surprised when he went
wide and jumpped up on the curb.  We were doing about 25 and the only
damage was torn jeans and a skinned knee.  We drove the bike home.

As a driver I went down on a 4-lane doing about 60 when the front tire
decided to give up its air.  The bike slid right, across the slow lane
between two cars and came to a stop on the sholder without hitting anything
else.  (DoD priority - bike damage first, people damage second).
It went over real slow, and at the last minute I decided to remove my 
foot from the peg and prepare to slide. The passenger decided since 
I was the only one wearing leather that he would ride on me, which he 
did for about 50 feet.  I ended up with scraped hands (no gloves) and
a sore shoulder.  My jacket was real bad, but an old girlfriend repaired
it and I still have it.  The bike was trucked home.  We were going to 
the last Orioles game of the season.  We didn't make it, and they lost 
anyway.

The bike, a '74 GT750 Ducati, had the forks twisted and the right handle 
bar slammed into the side of the tank.  I sold the mess for about $500.
If I knew then what they are now worth, it would have sat in the barn 
for the last 12 years.

Never sell a Ducati - even a wrecked one. Didn't someone already say 
that?

Mark Cervi

Right Coast Ride - 25-26 July.
See ya there.
-- 
 Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
 cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (410) 267-2147
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:46:15 GMT

brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.040844.4643@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
 
>+ Don't you just love it when the newbies take on one of the eldest of the
>+ elders? Kinda reminds you of the good old days, doesn't it?

>	Blaine, "eldest of the elders"?  I'm sorry now that I told you
>	my age at the "Feed".

Age? Why Brucer, I was referring to your low, low DoD number, not your
age. Whatever made you think I was saying you were old?

>	"there's a black eye for motorcycling."  Two miles later, I pulled up
>	to a stop light next to this frogger (his banzai tactics having achieved
>	zero in the way of winning the "Commute 500") and he turned out to be,
>	not a butt-headed teenager, but one of the DoD's "eldest of the elders"
>	himself, who shall remain nameless forever more, but who I know to be
>	an otherwise sedate and blandly conservative individual.:-))

Nameless? Come on Brucer, this is no time for responsible journalism, we
need names! (Or at least numbers :-)

>	Or are we just too damn tired, trying to make it in a
>	more and more competitive world, to expend the energy required to think,
>	and so we eagerly adopt any rule that promises to relieve us of that
>	responsibility?

Nice editorial, though I'm a bit surprised that nobody rose to the bait.

>    66
>     >
>     ^

Umm, I've been meaning to ask, is this a self-portrait?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The First Annual DoD Right Coast Ride comes to pass...
Date: 27 Jul 1992 16:27:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 151484INNs3u@sixgun.East.Sun.COM, egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>
It was the worst of times (for Jonathon Politico)
                               ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^

Jonathan Polito, of course!  Sorry, Jonathan.

So, did the SO give you as hard a time as Bubba and Joe-Bob?

:^)


---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: First Annual RCR and Crash
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:14:36 GMT

in article <blah>, steve nominates himself KotDirtyDucati

i don't know that this title can be honestly given as, after who-knows-how-
many-miles, your 907ie was the cleanest moto i'd ever seen.  but since i
did spy one bug, i'll approve.  btw, the bug had a *huge* grin on its face.

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|       "I love your post.  Please don't stop."   -- Lissa Shoun           |
|                [disclaimer: this quote has been altered]                 |
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From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:06:02 GMT
Reply-To: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Jul28.230608.6745@msc.cornell.edu> lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746) writes:

>and sidestand down=kill. So you can warm up on the sidestand, if that is your
>desire, but if you drop it into gear with the stand still down, it dies. I
>don't make much use of this, as I am a centerstand addict. But it does work.

Hmmm, since you mention it, it seems that riding off with the centerstand
down would be much more dangerous than the sidestand.  Right turns could
get you, as well as left turns.  And yet, I've _never_ seen a bike with
a centerstand indicator or interlock.  Do Goldwings have them?  I just don't
understand.  It's not like the Japanese to allow such an oversight.

--

P.M. Smith
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Terrible Drivers
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:19:57 GMT
Expires: 15 Aug 92 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Mass.

In article <1992Jul20.221804.223092@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@CS.CMU.EDU (Aaron Hughes) writes:
>Since we are on the subject of terrible drivers, 
>How many of you personally know one? I know 2 terrible
>drivers - both male, both my roomates, one of them being
>my younger brother.  The good thing about riding with them
>(when I have to) is that I become much more paranoid
>than with people I trust to drtive with me in the car.
>
>screw riding in a cage - I need a bike - it's safer. 
>

Aaron - seems to me that you must be a bigger bone head for riding with
these guys.  Do yourself a BIG favor and find ANY OTHER ALTERNATE means
of transportation before you're either in a hospital or a box 8-(.

Buy as car...better yet buy a bike!!  Stay alive!


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
[  This Space For Rent       ]              (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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