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From: filippou@cs.mcgill.ca (Dimitrios FILIPPOU)
Subject: More about the Greeks in Olympics '92 [in Greek]
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:15:39 GMT

Ektos apo tin Paraskevi Patoulidou kai ton Pirro Dima pou kerdisan
hriso metallio, stous Olimpiakous tis Varkelwnis alli mia ellinida
athlitria kerdise metallio.

  Prokeitai gia tin Frosw Drosinidou i opoia pire halkino metallio sto
<<Tae Kvo Nto>>. To athlima afto den eihe simperilifthei sto kanoniko
programma twn agwnwn, alla parousiastike ws athlima epideixis. Stous
epomenous Olimpiakous tis Atlantas to <<Tae Kvo Nto>> tha einai sto
kanoniko programma.

  Telos, mallon atihos s' aftous tous Olympiakous itan o arsivaristas
mas Valerios Lewnidis. Stin katigoria twn 60 kg sikwse to idio varos
opws ki o arsivaristas pou pire to halkino metallio. Omws, o Lewnidis
itan kata 500 gr variteros ap' afton pou pire tin 3i thesi ki etsi
katatagike telika 5os.

Dimitris ek Montrealis
From: am@sys.uea.ac.uk (Tassos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Skopje's Swiss Dreams (was: MACEDONIA: A SWITZERLAND...)
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:38:13 GMT
Organization: UEA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0

>Do Greeks believe that there is a clique of proto-fascists running the

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|  Tassos Machaeridis                                                    
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|  am@sys.uea.ac.uk                                                      
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From: s342053@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: You want a comment huh????
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:43:08 GMT

In article <9208161957.AA23209@cs.wisc.edu>, UCNICK%umuc@HARVARD.HARVARD.EDU (Nick Gavrielatos) writes:
> 
> Was it mutlu-bitch-malak, or was it corass-the-barbarian who wrote:
> 
>>Now any comment?
> 
> Yes, sure, here is my comment! FUCK YOUR ALLAH!
> 
> Ah, one more.... 
> 
> was it that sissy corass bitch who in an attempt to put humor 
> in his mail wrote something like:
>>Allah will punish you...   
> 
> TELL ALLAH TO GO SCRATCH HIS BALLS A BIT -- PSORIASIS IS A HEAVY
> EXCUSE FOR HIM!!!
> 
> Nikos Gavrielatos
> To Sixameno Plasma
> UCNICK@UMUC.BITNET
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good on ya NIKOS!
stupid dumb bastards dont know what the hell their on about!

	mounopana!!!!!
	
	skatokouvalithres!!!

	kolovaseles!!!!!!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:7462 soc.culture.turkish:8816 soc.culture.europe:7241
From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Ancient Civilizations (& "Stuff")
Date: 3 Aug 92 19:11:44 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.greek
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <92216.014014PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:


> I'd like to ask him to give us  some more  parts of the catalog: Chess,
> Football/ball games, Ruler, Wine, Earnings, whatever.. Give us more pa-
> ges !!! :-)


I wrote this a couple of years ago and posted it before. If there's
something that you like, (instead of casting aspersions) just
post it and consider it a public service.

As far as I recall I stuck to very old things. I did not include
things from recent times like glass blowing, flush toilet etc.





> If you are not sure about the bedroom, what about a wooden bed & table?
> I've no reason to argue on the information over the ice cream.   It was

Ditto. Post away.
-- 

	mark	


   hubey@pilot.njin.net                   hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
 ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey                  hubey@logos.montclair.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish
From: cza@troy.uucp (22141-akgun)
Subject: Re: Barbaros (F244)
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Navesink, NJ
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 02:59:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.003144.14451@news.columbia.edu> da26@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Deniz  Akkus) writes:
>In article <Aug19.203512.33680@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cc433336@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) writes:
>>According to the new issue (1992-93) of Jane's Fighting Ships, Turkey is
>>having built two new frigates. They will be commissioned in 1995 and they
>>will be of a modified MEKO 200 type to be called Barbaros class. Their
>>names will be Barbaros (F244) and Orucreis (F245).
>>
>>After this little piece of info, I have to dismiss the denials of several
>>Turks that they are not barbarians. You guys, your government has spoken
>>and has said that you are indeed a nation of barbarians... You better stop
>>the denials, or the Turkish police will take care of you :-)
>>--
>>Constantinos A. Caroutas
>>
>>"It's easy to make mistakes when others will be held responsible."
>
>You mean because the ship is going to be named Barbaros -- Turkish
>version of Barbarossa, who opened his eyes to the world as the son of
>a Greek fisherman?  
>
>:-)..
>
>Deniz Akkus

He based in Algeria while he was pirating around
Mediterinian with his brother.  His brother could be Oruc Reis.
That is why these ships are named like that.

C. Akgun
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Oh No! Not The Lawyers! Please! For the love of g.d! Not the...AAARGH
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


HM>I've got great news for you. Just wait for my lawyers.

   Zafiri paidi moy ti ekanes? Giati mas ton qymoses ton Mutlu mas? Ti
   skeptosoyna? Tetoion agio anqrwpo, giati ton brizeis adika? Thn giagiaka
   soy thn brizeis? Giati tote brizeis ton Mutlu? Gia onoma toy qeoy...

   Zhta toy sygnwmmn grhgora... Prhn jespaqwsei kai amolhsei toys dikigorous
   toy, kai twre zhtw poy kaikame... Kai'xw gynaika kai den qelw na thn afhsw
   xhra... kai'xw paidi na mhn afhsw orfano...

   Mhxalhs.

  `C8^)    (Silly face #81: Ellhnas me gialakia, megalh myth kai skoyfo tsolia)

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 . SLMR 2.1a . hAS ANYONE SEEN MY cAPSLOCK KEY?
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Genocide of 1 Million Children revealed
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:49:21 GMT

Boring as it was in King Tri* Land, the King picked up Money Magazine
of a few months back (backlog caused by Happyface/Cosar/???).

Reading thru last April's issue, the King discovered a grim reality of
one million American children which disappeared without a trace in one
year. GONE. FOR EVER. Like, one year they are here, and the next they
are not...

Horrors went thru the King's spine. How did the horrible act happen? 
Why did the Genocide Defenders and other do-gooders of the net keep silent?

Further reading revealed many details. 

Turns out that the million children disappered only according to the
US Internal Revenue Service. Before the tax reform of 1986, parents 
claiming children could wait till age 14 before having to use a social
security number for a child (when claiming the exception/deduction). 
The tax reform act made it mandatory to provide social security 
numbers to all children age one or older.

The first year this was enacted one million LESS children were claimed
as dependents, having mysteriously disappeared from the IRS records....

A true story brought to you by King Tri*. 

Spiros Tri*
(In Tri* we Trust)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.europe
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: GIVE IT UP, HASSAN
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


MP>> Drafted? Let's not use NewSpeak. Kidnapped is the right word.
HM>But why should one believe a self-admitted liar?

  There goes Mr Mutlu again, trying to gain sympathy by posting unbased
and tasteless personal attacks. In Mr Mutlu's world, everyone who does
not agree hith his peculiar ideas is a 'self-admitted liar', a
'moronian' and a 'certified criminal'. In his world, volumes of
historical evidence, congressional records, newspaper reports etc etc
detailing the genocide of Armenian civilians by the Turkish army are
null and void. In his world quotes from references can be altered and
misrepresented to support obvious falsehoods (see messages re: Men are
like that).

  To this message, Mr Mutlu will, almost certainly, reply with another
meaningless personal remark, followed by one of the many 'source texts'
that are stored on his system, courtesy of the Turkish Ministry Of
Thought.

He will then make some more generalized statements about Greek/Armenian
etc etc criminals, put some asterisks in front of the first three
characters of my last name, and close with the customary 'Kill all'
quote that he so much enjoys.

  Mr Mutlu, you can save the wear and tear on the keyboard, because your
postings convince no-one. To my recent message re: Men are like that, I
received no less than 21 personal replies. 18 in support, 3 were
neutral. No-one came to your aid.

  Your credibility rating is 0, Mr Mutlu. Give it up, you are only
making a spectacle of yourself.

Michael.
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 . SLMR 2.1a . I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Date: 16 Aug 92 11:39 PDT
Subject: UNITED NATIONS: Cyprus adversaries
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1473100062:000:2631
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Aug 16 11:39:00 1992


From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord>
Subject: UNITED NATIONS: Cyprus adversaries 

/* Written 12:03 am  Aug 16, 1992 by newsdesk in cdp:ips.englibrary */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Title: UNITED NATIONS: Cyprus adversaries in direct talks


new york, aug 12 (ips) -- the first face-to-face formal talks in
two years between cypriot president george vassiliou and the
turkish cypriot leader, rauf denktash, got off to a promising
start here wednesday.

the talks, conducted through the offices of u.n. secretary-
general boutros boutros-ghali and his special representative oscar
camillon, will continue tomorrow.

today's talks did not have a specific agenda. however, the
greek cypriots made it clear that they want the turkish side to
accept territorial concessions proposed by the secretary-general.

considerable pressure has been put on the turkish leader by the
five permanent members of the security council, who are closely
monitoring the talks.

since turkey's 1974 invasion of cyprus, turkish cypriots have
controlled about 37 percent of the island. during ''proximity
talks'' between the two cypriot camps that began july 15, boutros-
ghali put forward a map apportioning 28.2 percent of the territory
to the turkish community.

his proposal had the implicit backing of president vassiliou. but
denktash threatened to walk out of the talks over the territorial
concessions issue.

according to sources, denktash was willing to accept 29.9 percent
of cypriot territory for the turkish community and ''not an inch
less.'' he refused to agree boutros-ghali's map, claiming it would
force his side to give up a an agriculturally rich area in the
western part of cyprus.

the territorial concessions issue, on which the current talks
hinge, has not yet been resolved. but the mere fact that direct
talks are being held is seen as a good sign. in a report to the
security council in june, the secretary-general indicated a joint
meeting would be in order ''if the two leaders were within
agreement range''.

''it is high time we resolve this problem. we owe it to our
people in cyprus, both greek and turkish'', president vassiliou
said before the talks started.

the session began with a brief hiccup. denktash was seen leaving
u.n. headquarters shortly after the talks began this evening and
most reporters interpeted it as a ''walkout''.

but he soon returned and explained that he had only asked for a
brief recess to enable him to talk to turkish president turgut
ozal.(end/ips/ip/am/wr/92)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Ahmet Cosar)
Subject: You are ignorant of UUCP 'Sipa*'
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:55:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.022210.11432@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> by403@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>
>From: cosar@ulysses.cs.umn.edu (Ahmet Cosar) (we hope)
>> >And you still have not addressed my point. Have Generalizations based
>> >on race or religion have long been a staple of the 'Mutlu'/'Cosar'
>> >posting house or not? Do you need proof? Do terms like 'Moronian',
>> >'Greasy Pallikarya', or 'Fino Culture' imply otherwise?
>> 
>> I have addressed your baseless claims 'Sipa*'. You have miserably failed
>> to provide even a single article from me which supports your idiotic
>> claims and you have chosen to continue fabricating more and more
>> 'funny pages.'
>
>Oboy. Let us examine the evidence, shall we? There are two issues at
>hand:
>
>1.	Is there a 'Mutlu'/'Cosar' posting house that post(ed) under
>	han@anadolu.michigan.com while in reality posts were made 
>	from another machine / user id?
>
><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>[ED. NOTE: FACTS APPEARING IN PARAGRAPHS BELOW ARE ENCLOSED IN <<< FACT >>>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>In article <9208160043.A6010NW@anadolu.michigan.com>,
>han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes: (KD = Karl Denninger)
>
>KD>I'm interested (for academic reasons) in whether or not the article cited was:
>KD>
>KD>1)	From you, and vectored through Ahmet's machine for traffic control
>KD>	or other reasons.
>KD>
>HBM> Right on the money.
>
>So we have proof, coming from the Senior Poster in the 'Mutlu'/'Cosar'
>posting house that indeed, <<< articles appearing to originate from
>han@anadolu were actually sent/forwarded from you. >>> That, by itself,
>is cool. But it does help establish the existence of the posting house
>('you supply the articles and I'll post them').

It took 3 postings to get it for Mr Denninger, you do some homework and
ask me the parts that you don't understand.

(hint: comp.mail.uucp)


--
   A.Cosar                                                                      ________________________________________________________________________                
Disc space -- the final frontier!                                               ________________________________________________________________________

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Disclaimer: I speak for myself<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: egiannou@ntb.ch (Vaggelis Giannoulas)
Subject: Re: Mutlu, I have something to tell you, and th
Reply-To: egiannou@ntb.ch
Organization: Neu-Technikum Buchs, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:10:35 GMT


In article 56732@Ithaca.vax.Oxford.ac.UK, karakoli@Odysseus.vax.Oxford.ac.UK (Dimitris Karakolis) writes:
>
>    ...QA SOU KATEBASW ENAN KOUBA SKATA STHN MAPA , TOURKOMOUNOPANO !
>
>    dIMITRIS kARAKOLIS
>    l


Grapsto sta tourkika na to katalabei :-)

Vaggelis
From: am@sys.uea.ac.uk (Tassos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: IGAWULK (International Greek Alphabet When Using Latin
     Characters)
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:31:51 GMT
Organization: University of East Anglia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0


In article <1992Aug21.122845.12704@ifi.unizh.ch> Jimmy wrote:
>
>Is there any chance for an IGAWULC?
>(IGAWULK:International Greek Alphabet When Using Latin Characters)
>
>Sugestion:
>
>Alpha:     A
>Bita:      B
>Gama:      G
>Delta:     D
>Epsilon:   E
>Zita:      Z
>Ita:      *I*
>Thita:    *TH*
>Giota:    *I*
>Kapa:      K
>Lamda:     L
>Mi:        M
>Ni:        N
>Xi:        X
>Omikron:   O
>Pi:        P
>Ro:        R
>Sigma:     S
>Taf:       T
>Ipsilon:  *I*
>Fi:        F
>Chi:      *H*
>Psi:	  *Ps*
>Omega:    *O*
>
>oi,ei,... = i
>ai = e
>au = af
>......

Kalo, alla proteinw ta ekseis:
Ita:      H
Xi:   * KS*
Chi:      *X*
Omega:    *O*  kefalaio, *w* mikro
oi,ei,ai,au = paramenoun ta idia

Ti les;
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: sidirop@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefanos Sidiropoulos)
Subject: Re: Mutlu, I have something to tell you, and th
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:35:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.170632.5193@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, pnevmati@rockyroad.cs.wisc.edu (Dionisios N. Pnevmatikatos) writes:

Pali sto scg e ?

|> PS re paidia, se ti periodiko itan i fwtografia tou mutlu?

H fwtografia einai apo to Computer (Noemvrios 89) - kalo survey arthro 
parolo pou to grapse o Mutlu. Einai kalos se BISDN o atimos, an emene
mono se ayto tha ton eixa se poly megalh ektimhsh. 
Ki otan apofasise na parathsei to networking kai na ginei istorikos 
anarwtiomouna an einai o idios.

|>    Dionisis

Stefanos

PS: Dionysh steile kanena neo ...

PS2: Re paidia ayta pou grafei gia mhnyseis alhthevoun kai ti mporei
	 na kanei ?
From: rsakella@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: A book on modern Greek history
Keywords: Greece, history
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:25:56 GMT


Gia osoys endiaferontai gia ena kalo Aggliko biblio sxetika me
th newterh Elliniki istoria, kykloforhse prosfata sth Bretania
ena me titlo :

R.Clogg, "A Concise History of Greece", Cambridge University 
Press, 1992, ISBN 0-521-37830-3, 8.95 pounds (paperback)

O syggrafeas toy einai ka0hghths ths sygxronhs Balkanikhs Istorias
sto Panepisthmio toy Londinoy kai exei grapsei arketa biblia sxetika
me tin Ellada. To sygkekrimeno kalyptei thn periodo apo thn ptwsi ths
Kwnstantinoypolis mexri tis meres mas (kalyptei kai tis ekloges toy
1990), einai kalogrammeno kai kosmeitai apo prosektika dialegmenes 
eikones (polles apo aytes apo tis sylloges toy Moyseioy Mpenakh 
kai toy E0nikoy Istorikoy Moyseioy A0hnwn), fwtografies kai xartes.
To biblio perilambanei syntomes biografies (apo ton Kolokotrwnh kai
ton Rhga Feraio, mexri ton Karamanli kai ton Papandreou) kai synoptika
apotelesmata olwn twn eklogikwn anametrisewn meta ton polemo.


--r.
From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Michael Scordilis
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:31:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: urartu.1992Aug20.223133.17985
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies


Can anybody provide me with Professor Scordilis's email address. My email
folder on him went down the ground line!

Thanks

-- 
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org "It has been ever thus in all things, son, 
SDPA Center for Regional Studies    Whatever we thrash we give to the wind, 
P.O. Box 382761                     We too have been blown by the world's wind
Cambridge, MA 02238                 The chaff is gone but the grain remains." 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:7872 soc.culture.bulgaria:1193 soc.culture.yugoslavia:8205
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: The role of communists in Macedonia (was 19th cent...)
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:45:36 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.greek
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

In article <rsakella.714481593@cs.man.ac.uk> rsakella@cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou) writes:

[deleted]

>Actually, not only the Bulgarian but mainly the Yugoslav communists  
>(assisted even by the Greek communists) played the most important role
>on the formation of what consists today the "Macedonian nation".

Mmy point was about the Bulgarian role (after 1944) in this process. And it
seems that the "creation" of the Macedonian nation started after WWI by YU,
with the primary goal of de-Bulgarizing the Bulgarian Macedonians. Most of
the Bulgarian politicians (after WWI) played a very poor (from Bulgarian's
point of view) role in that process as well and the alienation of it's
Bulgarian consciousness by the population in Vardar Macedonia started
during the late 20-ies.

>								 It was
>in 1943 when Yugoslav communists, in order to strengthen their position
>in Yugoslav Macedonia, were envisaged the "Macedonian nation" and the
>"Greater Macedonia" which would encorporate all parts of Macedonia 
>which "the Balkan imperialists occupied some years before". That no
>ethnological foundations existed didn't seem important for them.

As I mentioned above - this process started earlier.

>Later, the Greek Communist Party denounced its position on Macedonia
>during this period,

The Bulgarian Communist Party have also denounced (but very silently) its
position on Macedonia at a later stage.

>Today, after the collapse of communism, it is really surprising
>that the official position of Skopje remains *exactly* the same with
>that of the Yugoslav communists the years after the 2nd WW;

One can hardly find a position which don't change (this is a remark in
principle !!!). Let us see what the future will offer.

>						 However, their propaganda
>is possibly worse : maps showing the "Great Macedonia", allegations
>for the existence of a "Macedonian" population in Greece... 
>I really wonder where all these assertions do they originate, don't you?

See, matters will hopefully come to their places and the only thing we can
do is to support every possible peaceful solution.

Best regards

Luben

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pity, but what can we do, since we are Bulgarians and all suffer from one
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: caucasians
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:22:26 GMT

In article @engin.umich.edu, kamprath@caen.engin.umich.edu (Michael F. Kamprath) writes:
>In article <sJ0cPB2w165w@midiline.la.ca.us> Patti Hayes, pattisan@midiline.la.ca.us writes:
>Ahhh, but you miss the point that these "TYPICALLY WHITE AMERICAN"s are
>indirectly making (though they may not realize it): you will achieve nothing
>in getting other people to change their actions/behavior by "whining."
>Ever hear of those mental defense mechanisms in psych class?  They'll
>usually just whine (or as you say, criticize) right back.  This is true
>between any two human beings regarless of the subject.  If you feel they won't
>understand, educate.  If feel its something that's got to be experienced,
>try to relay it.  I agree that there are some things that just must
>be experienced, but certainly you can try to describe its effect.   
>
>Michael F. Kamprath
>kamprath@caen.engin.umich.edu


Michael, you have me confused, if they don't understand, How am I supposed 
to educate?  It usually takes the understanding that there is a problem 
to seek a solution.  If white america is not willing to admit there is a 
problem, there is no way I can educate them because they won't accept my
education.  I have no foundation to base my arguement on.  Not all
anglos ;-) have open minds, it's a majority thing, I don't understand.


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