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From: scott@Cadence.COM (Scott Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Eudora - Great Mail System -but prob.
Keywords: eudora mail unix
Reply-To: scott@cadence.com
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:13:22 GMT

In <1992Apr11.203809.1407@ccu.umanitoba.ca> gburges@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Garry Russel Burgess) writes:

>I'm using Eudora as my mail system on an ethernet Unix system and I just love
>it, because it puts the friendly  Macintosh interface onto my mail system.

>It is supposed to work with a modem as well, except that I can't seem to quite
>get into my university.  I only get so far, and then I run into a roadblock
>probably because my Eudora needs some ResEdit surgery to make the proper
>connection with our Unix mail system. As it stands now, Eudora is setup to 
>work with a Cisco system, but the manual says that it could easily be modified
>to work with just about any Unix system.  My problem, is that I don't really
>know what I'm doing with ResEdit.  

There are two ways that you could go:
1)	Use MacTCP over a dial-up line with AppleTalk Remote Access.
2)	Configure the modem Script in 'STR#' 2400 and 2600.

Once you try the ARA (first option) you'll never want to play with ResEdit.  I
have tested Eudora with this method and also NCSA Telnet 2.4.02 and other 
MacTCP programs.  The one very good thing about using the ARA is that not only
can you check your mail, but you can have multiple telnet connections open
as well, and still have access to all of the network services (i.e. Appleshare
servers, laser printers, ...).


Now if you really want to use ResEdit, send me some mail and I'll show you
how to configure the string resources.  If you want more info on the ARA,
you can send me mail also.

scott
--
Scott Gustafson		(408) 894-3432 me	(408) 553-8713 beeper
Cadence Design Systems, 555 River Oaks Pkwy., San Jose, CA  95134
Internet:	scott@cadence.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: sukenick@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (SYG)
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0 and assembly language
Organization: City College of New York - Science Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 13:56:41 GMT

>OK so this example is contrived but I hope you get the point.  Assembler
>will always run at least as fast as HLL if you use the same algorithm *and*
>you have sufficient time to implement that algorithm in assembler.

*and* the programmer is competent and writes code as well or better
than the HLL translator with same or less overhead. 

>680x0 is nice but it's not that nice.  It just doesn't compare to Macro-11 (-:

Well, how can *anything* compare to Macro-11?

>And all those 16 bit >limits )-: (on the 68000 at least).
Well, it was sure fun to address above 64K using macro-11 :-)

>it).  I think that the only sensible way to write in assembly language is to
>first write the code in Pascal and then (by hand) recode the Pascal into assembler.

If you remove the word "Pascal", then the above statement is true :-)
(Just a jest, son, now don't you get your feathers all ruffled;
 Pascal is just fine :-))
I say: use any language that you are comfortable with, get the 
@%^&$@! thing to work, and then worry later about optimizing:
by using better alg., by rewriting critcal sections into assembly
and then perhaps recoding whole thing to assembly.

The only problem with assembly  (from a  management point of view)
is that the pool of good assembly programmers is smaller than HLL.

>program because you know that the algorithm works and that the only errors were
>induced by the recode.  Also you have a working Pascal version to fall back on

Unless it works due to a bug in the compiler (it does happen....)  :-)

>if the wheels fall off and the deadline falls due.

Yeah, it'll be a real bummer if the whole thing is completed in assembly
but you can't figure the source of those address exceptions when
deadline comes around :-)  (Hey, what happened to the stack? :-))

Quick note on program size: It's hard to see why many new programs
are so *huge*, even taking in account use of HLL.  Is it due to redundancies
in the code?

-- 
					-george
					sukenick@sci.ccny.cuny.edu

Doctor:  "60 milligrams!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hise@iastate.edu (All3an R Hise)
Subject: sound/music player
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:48:27 GMT

I am looking for a (preferably shareware) application that will allow me to 
use sampled sounds in the system 7 sound format.  I want to be able to play
multiple sounds simultaneoulsy and in various patterns that would result in 
a "song".

I don't need anything to sample the sounds, I have all of those, I just need
something that will let me play them together and allow me to save my
"composition"

Does anyone know of such a beast?

Thanks for any help.

Allan
hise@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word Processing Equations
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 02:17:09 GMT
Reply-To: P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: SMIS, Massey University, NZ
Keywords: MathType, Expressionist, MathWriter, Word

Bruce Shannon writes:

>Does anyone know of a simple , application that "Easily" supports writing
>equations. I had in mind something different from using super / subscript and
>changing fonts to put in various greek characters.

There are two main players in the market for "standalone" applications
specifically designed to edit mathematical expressions which can then be pasted
into, say, word processors.  They are are Expressionist and MathType (both
available in Australia).  IMHO, MathType is the better one.

There are also some others which integrate mathematical expression editing and
wordprocessing.  Word 5 includes a subset of MathType (missing some of the
nicer features of the interface, but otherwise fully functional).  There's also
MathWriter, but I'm not sure if the new verison has been released yet.

Word 5 would be the cheapest route if you're already using Word 4.

Phil Etheridge              Internet: P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz
Macintosh Consultant        Phone:    +64+6-356 9099 ext 8689
SMIS, Massey University     Fax:      +64+6-350 5611
Palmerston North, NZ        40*23'S, 175*37'E ;  GMT+12

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Bashing (Was: Re: News from Microsoft) 
Reply-To: stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:27:23 GMT

In article <sblh.702595960@msi.umn.edu> you write:
>stcroix@ultra.com (Bill St. Croix) writes:
>
>>It is my understanding (from numerous sources) that there is no such
>>animal as a "site license" from Microsoft.  I personally have never seen
>>multiple-user copies of any Microsoft software (the exception may be MS
>>Mail, but I don't recall).  Anyway, Word and Excel are only purchasable
>>in MS Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Mail in one package...and still
>>single user) or individually.  If this is not the case, please let me know,
>>since this would be useful information to me.
>
>At least for educational use, Microsoft has "multi-packs" available.  They
>supply 1 manual set, 1 copy of the media, and n (in my case, ten) "rights-
>to-use".  I have two ten-packs of Microsoft Word (for sixteen Macs--it was
>cheaper to over-license than to buy sixteen copies).

After receiving a few responses to this post, I called Microsoft.  They
do indeed have the multi-user copies available.  I guess you find a 
3rd party vendor (any one of them from what I was told) and purchase one
copy of Word or whatever.  You can then purchase what I believe was called
"MLPs" which is basically a right to copy.  Supposedly, these MLP's can
be purchased at a 20-30% discount (I can't remember which I was told now)
and supposedly have order forms for documentation (I didn't ask if there
was a cost for the documentation).

On a side note, it seemed that the Microsoft rep didn't want to tell me
about this avenue.  I asked, "Does Microsoft offer multiple user packages
of Excel or Word?"  I was told, No that they only offered multiples of
Mail.  I then asked if they site licensed software.  I was again told no.
I then mentioned the 10 user packs that I had been told about and asked
if that was just for educational institutions.  I was then told about
the "right to copy" packs of 10 users.  Apparently I wasn't clear enough
to begin with, I don't know...I thought that I was pretty clear.

The lady was very helpful and explained the way the system works.

Thanks to all of you who responded regarding this.

	Bill

P.S.  Still waiting to hear from someone at Microsoft about the
*advantage* of disk personalization of any other method.

--
Bill St. Croix					Ultra Network Technologies
Systems Administrator				101 Daggett Drive
stcroix@ultra.com				San Jose, CA 95134
Detroit Red Wings - '92 Stanley Cup Champs!	(408) 922-0100 ext. 287
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Andrew Burchill)
Subject: Re: Eudora - Great Mail System -but prob.
Keywords: eudora mail unix
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:35:35 GMT


As a follow up from the previous article from Garry.
To access the university Unix system via a modem you have to go through
two networks - The Dialin network then to telnet.  I have been able to
get into the dialin network, and to the Unix system but then Eudora
freezes - I have a couple of questions about assumptions Eudora makes.
  1. What shell does Eudora use when it gets into Unix (C shell, or Beorne).
     Does it make a difference.
  2. After loging into the University there are a number of system 
     messages.  Would this mess the system up, some times it takes more
     than the 2sec limit to list these.
  3. The login: prompt is 'ccu login:'  Does anyone know if the ccu
     at the start would cause a problem?
  4. The dial in line is 8,N,1 with no Xon/Xoff and no echo - after the
     first dialin network.
  5. Running from an Ethernet connection and MacTCP there is no problems.
Bye
Thanks for your help
C
-- 
Charles A. Burchill <burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Save a Devonian Forest: Ride a bike.
From: guelzow@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Now Up To Date
Date: 3 Apr 92 14:26:29 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <IdqmEL200WBK026nFY@andrew.cmu.edu>, km2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenneth E. Mohnkern) writes:
> 
> I'm playing around with the Now Up-To-Date calendar demo. It's really
> cool. The best I've seen. I have a question, though, that the readme
> file doesn't address. Perhaps someone here has figured it out or has the
> real version.
> 
> In the event info window, you can set the event to repeat at "custom"
> intervals. But how does one create these custom intervals? The phases of
> the moon in one of the demo calendars are set to custom,  can't see
> where that was specified.
> 
> Any clues?
>     ken
Creating custom intervals is quite easy: suppose you have created your moon
phases at every 28 days then your future phases may be slightly off. Then
you go to the first incorrect phase and drag this instance of the event to
the proper day (or time). After you have done this the programme inquires 
whether the change should apply only to the specific instance dragged, to all 
instances, or to all future instances. If it doesn't apply to all instances
you have created custom intervals. Similarly, you could delete specific
instances and I believe to remember that you can also add single instances
by copying and pasting while holdiong down some modifier key.

Considering the large number of useful fixed intervals (i.e. every last Friday
in a month etc.) custom intervals are probably most likely to arise from
small deviations, i.e. since that Friday is a holiday, it should be on 
THursday...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andreas Guelzow  Dept. of Mathematics & Comp. Sc. Brandon University MB Canada
Guelzow@BrandonU.Ca
From: ddl683@csc.albany.edu (Dreaming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Canvas 3.03 -- problems with inverted text
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:14:34 GMT
Organization: Hall of Holy Holdsworth


Hi-- has anyone else seen this problem?  Changing text color (say, black
to white, or grey), will not sucessfully print on a postscript laser printer.
Text defined as white against a black background (say, a black rectangle
behind it) properly shows up in relief on screen, but when
printed, the text is invisible:  solid black rectangle.

It's nothing so obvious as the relative front/back positions of the objects,
and I've tried defining colors and patterns several different ways, with no
success.  Is there something simple I'm missing?  Does Canvas require a
specific version of the LW driver?

advance thanks for any thoughts,

                                                    Derek L.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kettler@pierre.mit.edu (KETTLER, THOMAS R.)
Subject: Re: Word Dictionary Wrong?!?!?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 07:02:00 GMT

In article <12445@umd5.umd.edu>, amunn@macbeth.umd.edu (Alan Munn)           writes...
>In article <1992Apr8.145417.2159@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho) writes:
>>In article <12392@umd5.umd.edu> amunn@macbeth.umd.edu (Alan Munn)
> writes:
> 
>[loads deleted about dependent/dependant and part of speech]
> 
>>>Perhaps what really is needed is
>>>a real dictionary editor, so that we can create our own dictionarys
>>>fairly easily.  Don't tell me Nisis has one... :-) 
>>>
>>>
>>>Alan Munn
>>
>>Ah, now what you are looking at is no longer the spelling checker,
>>but is the grammar checker. I don't use Word anymore, and haven't
>>seen Word 5, but I suppose I should ask whether Word 5's
>>grammar checker can catch the 'dependent' vs. 'dependant' uses.
> 
> 
>I most certainly am *not* looking for one. :)  Just on a whim I ran the
>text of a paper of mine currently in press through Grammatik Mac.
>Apart from balking at all uses of 'rather' (It only thinks it's a
>wishy-wash intensifier *rather* than something else), the program also
>proceeded to inform me that all of my relative clauses were
>ungrammatical because I had used 'which' in some rather than 'that'.
>I'm a linguist, so I actually know a little bit about relative
>clauses, so this shocked me quite a bit.  It seems to me that the
>progam only found one or two 'real' errors in the text (repeated
>'the's for example) yet found loads of other problems which (that?)
>would only cause to confuse someone not fairly well versed in English
>grammar to begin with.
> 
>Actually I found the whole exercise quite amusing, but other than the
>entertainment value :) I wouldn't ever use one, nor recommend it to
>someone else.
> 
> 
>>BTW, the speller does catch 'independant', doesn't it?
> 
>Don't know, I've never mispelt it!
> 
>Alan
> 
>>
>>CKC
> 
> 
Alan, is the misspelled 'mispelt' a pun or did you do it by accident?

					Sincerely yours,

					Thomas R. Kettler "Mac Nut"
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Landscaping Software - any apps?
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:39:16 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Mar30.005935.5026@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Eric Johnson) writes:
> 
> Subject says it. Would like features for both design and costing if possible.
> -- 

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Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mo@gizmo.bellcore.com (Michael O'Dell)
Subject: Deep weirdness with Excel 2.2a 
Keywords: 
 
Reply-To: mo@bellcore.com (Michael O'Dell)
Organization: Center for Chaotic Repeatabilty
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 12:25:55 GMT

I tried to install excel 3.0 and after throwing away 2.2a and then
discovering 3.0 doesn't run on my machine, I reinstalled 2.2a.
DEEEP WEIRDNESS!!!!  It seems like it isn't the same program.
whey I put a number into a cell in an existing worksheet,
the "return" key inserts a newline!!  any keyboard equivalent
I use for a menu item gets a "No cells found" dialog.  when
I try to clear a cell, I get a new dialog asking me which stuff
to clear.  Even worse, when it starts up, it sits for a minute or two
after having drawn a blank forumula bar, and then when the "EXCEL"
herald dialog comes up, it sits again for a minute or so, completely
silent.  at first I thought the machine was crashing, but if you let
it sit long enough, it comes back to life.  this is all VERY strange.

config:
	Plus with 4 megs memory and a Dove Marathon 030 upgrade
	all these problems occur regardless of whether the accelerator
	is engaged, howeer, before the 3.0 fiasco, 2.2a was running
	just fine with the accelerator.

even more weird, I got a copy of the old 2.2 Excel binary off a backup
tape and it was still hosed.   

So, any insights would be deeply appreciated.

	Please send email to
	mo@bellcore.com

	-Mike

Bellcore?? Bellcore isn't allowed opinions. Any found here are mine.
From: van@eff.org (Gerard Van der Leun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 How do I turn off the text or text w/ layout box?
Date: 3 Apr 92 19:25:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: eff.1992Apr3.192510.2100
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2




    It VURKS!!!! It VURKS!!!!!!!!!


   Thank you, Howard, you are my Word Hero of the Day!
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:7553 comp.sys.mac.system:6774
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler conficts
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:48:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr6.114851.10965
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison
Originator: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Apr06.033120.15821@eng.umd.edu> russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
>In article <ktvbsuINNnop@saltillo.cs.utexas.edu> knapp@cs.utexas.edu (Edgar Knapp) writes:
>>
>>When you start a compressed app, do you see the AD cursor? Also, is
>>there a folder called ~AutoDoubler Temporary Items on each volue with
>>open apps? If so, you have a problem, since AD has to decompress to
>>disk first (GK Aid opens files read/write) instead of decompressing
>>directly into memory (for read-only access).
>>
>>The performance penalty is significant, so is the amount of additional
>>disk space needed.
>
>I get this behavior without Gatekeeper Aid...

On some of my programs, I still see this behavior, but once I turned off
Gatekeeper Aid (I still run the Disinfectant INIT), most of this behavior
disappeared, specifically with Telnet and MacX.  I run a IIfx with the
standard 80 MB disk, so it never was a big problem (maybe a 2 - 3 second
wait), but it still was annoying.  I also noticed the AutoDoubler Temporary
Items folder, which was being created whenever I had a crash.  I ended up
throwing the stuff out each time.

Anyway, thanks for the tip.

By the way, the README file for Gatekeeper 1.2.5 states that it contains
workarounds for the AutoDoubler problem (I'm assuming before that it caused
crashes or something).  I'm sure the fine person(people) that work(s) on
Gatekeeper are probably coming up with solutions as we gripe.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: kort@fwi.uva.nl (Jan Kort (I89))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: binhex 4.0 / 5.0
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:25:17 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

Where can I get the programs binhex 4.0 and binhex 5.0 ?

J. Kort
From: woody@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Bill Woodcock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: AShare 3.0 and screen savers?
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:05:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32454
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


kvd@hercules.acpub.duke.edu (Karen Van Dusen) writes:
>Does anyone have experience with running screen savers (DarkSide, After
>Dark, Moire, whatever) on their AppleShare 3.0 server?  What are you
>using?  Have you had any trouble?

I use Dimmer 1.19, which was originally an unsupported Apple non-product.
It's nice, in that it addresses apple video cards directly to dim the
screen, rather than fiddling around with either the color table or
vidoe memory, like other screensavers do.  Thus the screen never has to
be redrawn, and, obviously, it doesn't steal processor power to make
pretty pictures.
 
I've also tried, and had good luck with Flex, a shareware "moire"-type
screensaver which is very simple, doesn't take a lot of memory or processor
time.  It's available from both the BMUG and BCS-Mac shareware libraries, to
the best of my knowledge.  I`d guess that Dimmer is still probably buried
somewhere on the developer ROMs.
 
			-Bill Woodcock
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge)
Subject: Re: Claris bashing (and a bit of DeltaPoint bashing)(was: Misc Bashing)
Reply-To: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:35:19 GMT

egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
>--In article <1992Apr11.151138.3378@athena.mit.edu> (comp.sys.mac.apps), dks@athena.mit.edu (dks) writes:
>--> In article <1992Apr8.152837.2483@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:
>--> >In article <19738@castle.ed.ac.uk> egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
>--> >>For my 2 cents, I think it's pretty piss poor that MacDraw Pro doesn't
>--> >>support Publish and Subscribe. Was it a secret or something? 
>--> >Because they had frozen the feature set for MacDraw Pro before
>--> >they could include any of the System 7.0 features. 
>--> Is this supposed to be an excuse, an explanation, or a definition
>--> of the problem?
>Well whatever it is, it's totally unacceptable.

The problem, of course, is that it's really difficult to ever put out a
product (especially a moderately well-tested, stable product) if you
don't pick some point and freeze the feature set there. If Claris had
delayed MacDraw Pro until Sys7 features could go in and testing be done,
would that be more acceptable? Or would people be bashing Claris for
long delays instead of for leaving out Sys7 features?

What value do you put on availability and stability as opposed to
features?

--John

        so you found a girl who thinks really deep thoughts;
        what's so amazing about really deep thoughts?
                -- Tori Amos, "Silent All These Years", _Little_Earthquakes_

+++John L. Coolidge++til May:coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu++May:coolidge@apple.com++
I speak for myself, not the UofI or Apple. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
Copying allowed only if attributed and if all copies may be further copied.