HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: Creationist Evidence
Date: 22 Jan 1993 10:35:51 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan20.172209.16174@brtph560.bnr.ca>, Dave Filpus <filpus@bnr.ca> writes:
=In article <1jdqjhINNjnf@gap.caltech.edu> Carl J Lydick,
=carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
=>In article <Jan.15.16.59.52.1993.20617@zeppelin.rutgers.edu>, 
=>trott@zeppelin.rutgers.edu (Rich Trott) writes:
=>=I was wondering if anyone could direct me to what they might consider
=>=the best resources that debunk and the best resources that endorse
=>=creationism.  Specifically (here's the folklore part), I'm looking for
=>=something (on the debunk side) that will not only explain why the
=>=evidence for evolution is overwhelming (I already possess resources to
=do
=>=this) but will also point to specific examples of creationist
=>="evidence" that have been discredited (such as a hoax discovery of
=>=human footprints alongside dinosaur footprints, or something of that
=>=nature).
=>
=>Ask Chris Colby in talk.origins.  Or read Stephen J. Gould's books.
=
=Or look in sci.skeptic.  This thread surfaces occasionally there.

If you have access to the TALK groups, *DON'T* look in sci.skeptic.  Then the
thread shows up there, we mostly wait for Chris (who subscribes to both
TALK.ORIGINS and SCI.SKEPTIC) to post parts of his FAQ from TALK.ORIGINS.  The
thread *REALLY* belongs in TALK.ORIGINS, *NOT* SCI.SKEPTIC.  Thanks.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Subject: Re: Aids in pizza
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:17:04 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products


walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes:
...
> And this reminds me:  Does anybody remember the
> advertisements for a diet candy called "AYDS"
> about ten years ago?  It went something like
> "Why go hungry when you can have AYDS!"

And you better believe that the AYDS people took it real
seriously. I remember some years ago Robert Krulwich (the
CBS morning news show economics correspondent, and a real
funny guy) did a story on how they put alot of effort into
gradually shifting the product name from "AYDS" to something
more like "DIET ayds"...the trick being not to lose "name-
recognition", yet still de-emphasize the unfortunate 
similarity of the name to that of that $#@%ing disease.

Craig

Not the opinion of my employer.
-- 
-- "You will have the tallest,    Craig Becker, Object Technology Products --
--  darkest leading man in               Internet: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com --
--  Hollywood."                     IBM TR: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com --
--   - Merian C. Cooper to Fay Wray               VNET: JLPICARD at AUSVM1 --
From: meg@syrinx.umd.edu (******** Meg *******)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Pizza Brain
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:06:51 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park


Back in the 6th grade we dissected a cow's brain. Because there were lots of
kids in the class but only one brain, everyone got a small piece of one. Some
boy decided to collect a whole bunch in a plastic bag, take it home, and
toss it in the fridge.

Then his mom came home and made pizza, using that "wonderful little bag of
sausage" on it. Unfortunately, she found out that it was cow brain *before*
serving it.. 

_prplcow
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: mandrews@portal.hq.videocart.com (Mike Andrews)
Subject: Re: Acronyms & Funny names
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:25:45 GMT

In article <1k1tdqINNfle@lynx.unm.edu> mycroft7@vesta.unm.edu (Cliff Coy) writes:
>
>
>> HIV - HIV virus   - Human Imm.. Virus virus
>> ICBM - ICBM missile - Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile missile 
>
>> HARM - HARM missile - High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile missile
>> (anti-radar)
>
>My favorite has always been a govt poster describing a battleship's
>defenses.  It included such lovelies as the anti-anti-missile-
>missile. ;-)
>
>--Cliff

PCV - PCV Valve = Pollution Control Valve Valve

                  (actually...  Postive Crankcase Ventilation Valve)

RAM - RAM Memory chips  = Random Access Memory Memory chips
SIMM - SIMM memory - SIMM modules - SIMM memory modules
                       = Single Inline Memory Module memory modules




-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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mandrews@hq.videocart.com                      Chicago, IL USA 
=-=- Madonna:  Andy Warhol called. Your 15 minutes are up.-=-=
From: VBCSC03L@VAX.CSUN.EDU (snopes)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Divorce Rates
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:34:59 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  kubo@boucher.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo) writes . . .

>>  Not so.  You'd have to have statistics about how much of a "backlog" of
>>  marriages there is, and/or when the couples getting divorced got married
>>  in the first place.

> This is incorrect.  Given 1000 years of "50%" data, we could safely
> conclude, with high accuracy, that half of the marriages in that time
> had ended in divorce. This makes no assumptions about backlog or the
> like. The only question is how many years' data is enough. 

  Sorry, but we operate in the real world here, not some fanciful statistical
  wonderland.  We don't have 1000 years' worth of data.  We don't have
  enough reliable data compiled over a suitably long period of time to be 
  able to make any sort of an accurate statment about the divorce rate
  without knowing more than just the raw numbers of divorces and marriages
  per year.

 - snopes

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From: kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Capt. Sarcastic)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.discordia,alt.slack,alt.california
Subject: Re: Mike Cooper was Jesus' name (was Re: Late breaking potential UL!)
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:04:33 GMT
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.

spl@szechuan.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) writes:

>In article <fX7Amfz@quack.sac.ca.us> pharvey@quack.sac.ca.us (Paul Harvey) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan15.042910.17009@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> 
>>kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Capt. Sarcastic) writes:
>>>There are LOTS of surnames that come from occupations.  Hence...
>>>Mike Cooper worked with farm animals.
>>
>>I knew Mike Cooper, he was a very great personnal friend of mine and you
>>sir are no Mike Cooper. Mike Cooper of course worked for Apple Computer
>>in Cupertino, California. He was noted for his work on barrel shifters.

>One bad cooper doesn't spoil the whole barrel...

>Or not.

>I've still got a headache.

Let's say an idiot (like myself) posts something really really incorrect.
How many years does it take the thread to die?

Just curious.

Captain "Mike Cooper choked a chicken in a barrel" Sarcastic
--
Capt. Sarcastic      |The U.S. economy is dominated by monopolies.  In order to
(Kurt S. Koller)     |gain higher profits they exploit the U.S. workers as well
kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu|as the population of the countries dependent on the U.S.A.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Aids in pizza
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:07:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.183000.8755@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <H.eg.Yo0vY38ekO2@harvee.billerica.ma.us> scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us writes:
>>In <93019.074149MBADBH@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>, David B. Horvath, CDP writes:
>>>
>>>SideNote: Ever notice how some acronyms have parts of themselves used
>>>          after the name?
>>>
>>>   HIV - HIV virus   - Human Imm.. Virus virus
>>>   ICBM - ICBM missle - Inter-Contential Balistic Missle missle
>>>   HARM - HARM missle - High Speed Anti-Radiation Missle missle (anti-radar)
>>
>>my favorite is IRA account-individual retirement account account
>
>Doesn't beat "personal PIN identification number."
>

There was an auto place around here advertising "AET Testing" for some
low price.  Someone (spoilsport!) must have finally told them because
they corrected the sign . . . 

			-- Stewart "S.T." Tame

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Pee-wee Herman, Bart Simpson, Tipper Gore, Murphy Brown, Maggie Thatcher,
and the Easter Bunny.
From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:42:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Hooker revisited
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban

In alt.folklore.urban, kibo@world.std.com (his kiboness) writes:

> That's "Kibo Paradijum CIA Fodder".  I know because Ronald Reagan once
> used that word in a speech.  pa-ruh-di-jum.

And all this time I thought it was "para-diggem." 

-- Ray
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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.discordia,alt.slack
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Jesus' name (was Re: Late breaking potential UL!)
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	<1993Jan19.192926.1257@midway.uchicago.edu>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
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In <1993Jan19.192926.1257@midway.uchicago.edu>, Ted Frank writes:
>
>Is anyone else related to someone famous, or knows someone who is?
>
i know mel gibson's cousin.

-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Aids in pizza
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:42:09 GMT

ISDF400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (Stephen Dea Fultz) writes:
>Some nurses order pizza and they are about half way thru eating the pizza when
>they get a call saying that the delivery man had ejaculated into the pizza and
>he had AIDS.

Blatantly false.  From whom would the call originate?  Who would discover what
had happened at that late time, and how?  Surely once the pizza is out of the
hands of the pizza company, they're not going to learn anything new about the
pizza.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: vince@cadence.com (Vince Gibboni)
Subject: Re: Bugger it
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:41:47 GMT

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>: Thirdly I was at graduate school with a man who was cheating the telephone
>: system by making collect calls to different public phone boxes in England.
>
> Hm, who paid the money when they accepted the charges? I would expect that
> the operators would know that the calls were to pay phones. Can you provide
> some documentation? It certainly sounds ULish to me.

    I've actually done this to phone booths in the U.S. (from neighboring
    phone booths ... just to see if it would work... in no way attempting
    to defraud the phone company...no way, not me...nope). About 3/4 of
    the time the operator realizes you are placing a collect call to a phone
    booth and won't put the call through, and of the other 1/4 about 1/2
    those times (or 1/8 of the total times for those of you scoring at home)
    the operator realizes that it is a phone booth a few seconds after putting 
    the call through and interrupts your conversations, but the rest of the
    time you can get away with it. It seems like most of the phone booths
    in the U.S. have numbers of the form XXX-9[789]XX, and I think this may be
    what tips them off - B.T. probably uses a different system.
>
>: As part of the process of convincing him to plea bargain, he told me they
>: played him a tape of one of his calls.
>
> This is no proof. The phone companies have been able, for at least 30 years,
> to determine the originating and destination phones. All they would have to
> do is look up the originating number - and tap it. Such a tap would require
> a court order in the US - I don't know about the UK.
>

    This is an interesting question. Do they need a court order to tap calls 
    going out of the country ?  Once in high school I (and several unnamed co-
    conspirators) very nearly suceeded in placing a collect call to our 
    "Uncle Ivan" in Moscow from the hall phone booth. It seems to me the 
    (very helpful) operator told us that the call would, of course, be taped. 


--
                                                         vince@gda.cadence.com

    "If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, I'd appoint him secretary of 
    Education." - Bill Clinton                 (I'm not making this up).
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.music.misc
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: 54-40..what does their name mean?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:41:57 GMT

In article <stern6.727998973@husc.harvard.edu> stern6@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Stern) writes:
>stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal) writes:
>
>> I just always figured 54-40 was just some stupid band name (although
>>a decent band), when Al Bundy used the phrase "54-40 or fight" (not
>>in context, only as a sample phrase) on Married With Children.
>>So what the hell does it mean?
>
>In the early 19th century, the boundary between the United States and
>Canada was not entirely defined. The most disputed section of the border
>was the northern part of what is now Washington State. The Canadians
>wanted the border to continue along the 49th parallel, but the Americans
>wanted our territory to jut north to about where Prince George, B.C.,
>now is. This fit the mountainous boundaries better, but was really just
>a rallying cry for jingoistic politicians. Specifically, their cry was
>"54 (degress) 40 (minutes) or fight", the lattitude of their desired
>border.
>
>President Pierce was elected in part on his promise to secure these
>advantageous borders, but when the Mexican war became imminent he compromised
>at the 49th parallel, and thus ensured that the Brits and Canadians
>would not strike from the North while we were busy invading Mexico.
>

Actually, I think the Brits sold Canada out, because we were really
entitled to the entire Columbia River basin...i.e. most of Washington
State...but I forget most of my history about why Britain caved in
the territorial dispute and sided with the Americans.

Gerald
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch (Michael Qvortrup)
Subject: Re: starting a car takes more gas that idling
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:47:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.210843.269@gems.vcu.edu> hleaves@gems.vcu.edu writes:
>People have always told me that it takes more gas to start a car than to leave
>it running. That, suppposedly, is why you shouldn't turn off your engine for a
>brief stop. I can believe that this is true for a very brief idling period, but
>not for any longer times. What would be considered the crossover point, where
>it is better to stop your engine than leave it running? (considering gas
>consumption only, not including engine wear from starting)

I don't know about the crossover point, but here in Switzerland it is
considered polite to stop the engine when holding in front of a read light.
It is taught in driving school, and they claim it pays of re bad air?

Greetings,
--Mike

-- 
#include <std-disclm.h>--"... and there is a small flaw in my character."---
Real Life: Michael Christian Heide Qvortrup      A Dane         ETH, Zuerich
e-mail   : qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch                  abroad         Switzerland
Institut fuer wissenschaftliches Rechnen  /  Inst. of Scientific Computation
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Cuttin' the Rug
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:19:15 GMT

Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall) writes:
>Factoid, fictionoid, or UL?  Islamic artists and artisans (including rug
>makers, weavers, knotters, whatever) deliberately include an error in
>their product in recognition of the fact that only Allah is perfect.

Maybe whoever told you this talked too fast, and your ears
got confused.  It is certainly true (or at least folklore) that
the Amish do this with their quilts.  But because of God, not
Allah in their case.

Jon "Amish, Islamic, sound the same to me" Papai
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN)
Subject: Re: tuition refund ul?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:31:59 GMT

In article <C18Kx0.A5E@math.uwaterloo.ca> alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz) writes:
>In article <93021.110334CSD108@psuvm.psu.edu>, <CSD108@psuvm.psu.edu>
>writes:
>> In article <1993Jan21.338.26781@execnet>, al.sorhaindo@execnet.com (al
>> sorhaindo) says:
>> >
>> >Has anyone else heard this corollary to a popular college UL?
>> >
>> >
>> >Not only did I hear their that there was an "official" rule printed
>> >in the student handbook allowing students to leave if a professor
>> >was more than 10 minutes late.
>
  In my old school, this rumour persisted for years -- some said since its      
founding some 100 years previous.  Eventually, it became an effective rule,
since every student in the place thought it was one.  The faculty finally 
gave in and instituted it as a rule.  I remember various classes where we would
(impatiently) wait for precisely 10 minutes, counting down the seconds as
the required waiting time passed.  Invariably, the prof. would walk in just as
we were all leaving the room...


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Subject: Re: Okay, if you're so smart ...
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:44:28 GMT

In article <CINDY.93Jan21215302@solan10.solan.unit.no> cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
>>>That depends on how you mean related.  Structurally, English is
>>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>certainly germanic.  A great deal of the vocabulary, however, is
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>romance.  It filtered in after the Norman conquest.
>>
>>That is why I the verb at the end of this sentence put.
>
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!  Okay, here i go again.  (Head, wall, BANG)

Yes yes, I know.  English is a germanic language.  I just had
to have a little bit of fun.  I've got a weird sense of humor :)
(I *did* put a ":)" there you know :)


Julie
DISCLAIMER:  All opinions here belong to my cat and no one else
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Subject: Re: Abducted by UFOS or hard night on the town?
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:25:30 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products


derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
> 
> Having obtained a copy of the respected Australian journal New Idea -
> to report on the Camilla-gate tapes I noticed an article about abductions
> by UFO's. This was penned by no less an authority than Uri Geller.  He states
> that a recent mind-boggling report from the U.S. says that as many as four 
> million Americans may have been kidnapped by UFO's without even knowing it.

Yeah, right! Geller is completely full of, ummm, tendencies to sue
people who claim he's a worthless fraud. I'm almost ashamed to admit
I read his autobiography back in high school, but for some reason the
local librarian filed it under 'fiction'...

> The article lists the following questions to answer if you thinkyou may have
> been kidnapped by space aliens.
> 
> 1. Have you ever woken up paralysed with a sense of a strange person or 
>    presence in the room?

This is a symptom of a relatively common sleep disorder known as 
"sleep paralysis". I suffer from it myself.

Craig

Not the opinion of my employer.
-- 
-- "You will have the tallest,    Craig Becker, Object Technology Products --
--  darkest leading man in               Internet: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com --
--  Hollywood."                     IBM TR: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com --
--   - Merian C. Cooper to Fay Wray               VNET: JLPICARD at AUSVM1 --
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Your suggestions for favorite sayings for T-shirts?)
From: leb@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (BASEL, LESLIE)
Date: 23 Jan 1993 21:33 MST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <14031@optilink.COM>, walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes...
>From article <1993Jan20.193710.17267@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, by rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins):
>>>In article <73927@cup.portal.com> sunday@cup.portal.com (Sunday and Associates) writes:
> 
>#>>	We are requesting your suggestions for a favorite one-liner, joke,
>#>>aphorism etc. that could appear on a T-shirt? Remember that shirts have
>#>>fronts and backs making a two line joke possible.
> 
>#>>	Your suggestions?
> 
>> how about : KEEP THIS CRAP OUT OF *.*.*!!!
> 
>I love it!
> 
>I saw a T-Shirt that read, "If I wanted to hear from an
>asshole I'd fart."
> 
>I got passed on the freeway by a ragged looking guy whose
>leather jacket had the emblem of his motorcycle club on the
>back.  It read, "Hymen Busters."
> 
>And at a VW meet, I saw a guy with a T-Shirt that showed
>a hand with the middle finger extended and read,
>"F*ck the f*ckin f*ckers!"  (asterisks mine).  What class!
>-- 
>Mark Walsh (walsh@optilink) -- UUCP: uunet!optilink!walsh
>AOL: BigCookie -- Amateur Radio: KM6XU@WX3K -- USCF: L10861
>"What, me worry?" - William M. Gaines, 1922-1992


Well, okay; just one
Rodger "if only ignorance were painful" Coghlan