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From: sdunbar@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com  (Steven T. Dunbar)
Subject: Corp. Health club facilities
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:42:03 GMT


I am doing preliminary research into getting some sort of 
Health Club Facilities installed at work.  We happen to have about
55000 square feet of empty factory space at this time (although
that could change at any time)  and I would like to 
quantify a few things so that I can write a proposal to our
recreational committee (love that beauracracy...)

1) How many people out there on the net work for a company which:
   a) provides in-building Health Facilities
   b) subsidize or pay for membership fees to a private health club

   (this is basically a "keeping up with the Jone's" argument)

If you answer yes to the above question, could you please email me
with the name of your company.  Also, if you don't feel that it is
too obtrusive, please forward me a name and phone number of a 
personnel administrator or Health Facilities administrator in your
company so that I could ask some more specific questions.

2) If your company provides either (a) or (b) in #1 above, approx.
   what percentage of the employee's at your company take advantage
   of these Facilities/Subsidies?

3) Does anyone know of any articles/papers/books written quantifying:
   a) increase in worker productivity due to use of Health Facilities
   b) decrease in employee sick time claimed
   c) decrease in premiums paid for employee medical insurance.

   (always nice to have proof to back you up)

The next step I will take after I get some responses from this post
is to ask a random sample of our own employees what they think
of the idea, and if they would use such a facility.

Ironically, the biggest stumbling block will probably be the fact
that our entire building has no, NOT EVEN ONE, shower in it.
We have lots of floor space, but it's all tile- however we probably 
have some old carpet we could throw down... we have lots of 
office furniture (like walls, etc...) that could be used to cordon
off an area.... all in all, this shouldn't be hard to pull off.

Thanks!  Please Email me with any info that you have!!!!

Steve
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Steven T. Dunbar                          sdunbar@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com
Development Engineer                      (817) 232-6080

Motorola GSS Cellular Infrastructure Group - Ft. Worth Research & Development
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury)
Subject: Re: CALLOUS ON HAND
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:42:58 GMT

In article <26444@megatest.UUCP> toddnguy@megatest.UUCP (toddnguy) writes:
>
>  Hello everyone,
>
> I don't know if I consider my self a body builder but I work out with
> weight in the gym five days a week and two hours a day.  I hands have
> a lot of callouses and it very hard which I don't like to have but 
> I enjoy working a lot.  Is there any medication or lotion that I 
> can use to get rid of the callouses on my hand?  Any information
> would help me a lot.  

The callouses will go away after a while.  Wear gloves in the 
meantime to keep from building more.
--
Richard A. Drury
drury@helix.nih.gov
From: hrostami@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Alpine Tracker [ski machine] usage info needed!
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:42:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: dhvx20.1992Nov16.094212.1
Organization: CSU, DOMINGUEZ HILLS

In article <1dop52INNmmt@gw.home.vix.com>, shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD) writes:
> 
> Hi folks!
> 
> I just came by an Alpine Tracker (tm) brand of ski machine..it is a
> lower end copy of a Nordic Track..with feet plates which slide on a
> track, andhand/arm pulleys.
> 
> My question is...how do I use this thing? :-) There is that padded
> brace which you lean against...it is height-adjustable...where should
> it hit me as I lean against it?  My hips?  [awkward] My belly?  [less
> awkward] What is the proper combination and positioning for arms &
> legs?
> 
> In short...help!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Annie
> -- 

I use NordicTrack and according to the operation manual the Pad should be
adjusted to a height so that it would not iterfere with leg movement. Another
words,  it should be set at your hips.  A good indication of the correct
height is that your belly botton should be just above the pad. 

Hope this helps!

Hamid
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: tordm@vand (Tord G.M. Malmgren)
Subject: Re: JUMPING!
Reply-To: TordM@VanA.PhySto.SE
Organization: Department of Physics, University of Stockholm -- Sweden
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:56:09 GMT

In article <Nov18.033611.44451@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, steve@agropyron.forests (Steve) writes:

>>	I would add, buy some ankle weights and jump.  Most sporting
>>	goods stores have them, usually leather filled with powdered
>>	lead.  Strap write on.  Wear them when you run, jump rope
>                                                   ^^^^^
>>	So put on those ankle weights and do some sprinting also.
>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^ 

>A word of caution, many up-to-date running coaches would cancel your team insurance
>if they saw you running with ankle weights on, especially if you were 
>doing sprints with them. The added weight X knee-to-ankle lever arm = knee problems.
>This is a very easy way of hyperextending the knee, hence the invention of 
>weighted shorts  (seriously) to increase the "resistance" of  a running workout.
>try fartlek, plyometrics, running backwards, jumping rope, etc. but beware the ankle
>weights while running.

 I wouldn't wear ankle weights when jumping either. If you don't like or
could find or feel comfortable with weighted shorts(?) you could go about
with a led-vest and jump up hills or stairs (to avoid stressing your knee,
which you could do if you leap up and down on the ground.)




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 Department of Physics, University of Stockholm -- Sweden (Northern Europe)
From: ivy@chem.ucsd.edu (Ivy Blumberg)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Bally's Health Club SUCKS Read this...
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:46:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1ebb6gINNpee
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
NNTP-Posting-Host: chedccf0.ucsd.edu

In article <69389@cup.portal.com> Ripped-Off@cup.portal.com (Eric J Rainbolt) writes:
>town for the next two months, and I didn't want to be liable for a full
>year's membership.  ( $600.00 odd dollars ).  He said that was "no problem",
>because if I showed proof that I moved more than 30 miles from the
>Center, I wouldn't be held liable for any additional payments.  Now
>I realize that he just told me a lie.  Or he was displaying his lack of
>knowledge of the contract.  The trouble all started because I didn't
>read all the 'fine print'.  One of the "un-cirlcled" portions of the contract
>refered to a $50.00 cancellation fee.
I joined Holiday Health Spa for  2 years and signed a similar contract.
However, I read the entire contract there in the salesperson's office
before signing it.  She later became one of my best friends and told
me I was the ONLY person she had ever known to actually read the
contract.  Well, at least I knew what I was getting into and I knew
I couldn't get out of it.  Good luck.

ivy
From: mickw@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Bally's Health Club SUCKS Read this...
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:17:14 GMT

In article <Bxo7K5.Ipy@inews.Intel.COM>, jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece) writes:
> 
> Is Bally's related in any way to the 24-Hour Nautilus chain in 
> California?  Their marketing, sales, and business practices seem
> remarkably similar.  To wit:

I can believe any stories I hear about Nautilus, though I have to say that I seem
to have had--on the whole--fairly good luck with them. I bought a lifetime annual
membership with them back in 1984, and pay only $75 a year renewal with them. The
membership entitles me to use any of their facilities. However, in 1991 when I
renewed my membership, they said they'd "lost" my records. I had kept my original
contract (clever me) and took it in to them. But it took several irate phone calls
and a letter for them to set things straight. I guess they just hope that people
will lose their original contracts. I could also show them several years' worth
of cancelled checks I'd made out to them, proving my membership had been contin-
uous. I have some complaints about how well they maintain their facilities, but
for $75 a year, who can complain.

I bet they HATE me. Ha! 

--
Death to all fanatics!!

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: krueger@cs.uwp.edu (Gerald Krueger)
Subject: Help. Can't do Incline Press.
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:15:28 GMT

Up until a few months ago I was completely ignorant to the fact that
flat bench does not work the entire pectorals equally.  I found this 
out when I tried to do incline and could do only about 65% of what I
can do on a flat bench.  Since then I have adjusted my routine to 
include some incline.  Since I always start using 5 sets of flat bench
I think my triceps get tired and can't work the incline as hard.  I
am reluctant to mess with the initial 5 sets of flat bench because
I have seen steady results.

What is the best way to get my incline up while still working on 
the flat?  It is defeating for me to work with weights on the incline
that I left long ago on the flat.

Will it take as long for my incline to develop as it did my flat?
I feel that since the two are closely related it shouldn't take 
quite as long.

Currently I work 10-12 sets of a variety of incline/flat exercises, 
twice a week.
					All Advice Appreciated,
					Jerry
From: sie_0180@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Bruce Rechichar)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: A Workout Plan !!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 04:03:23 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona


  Hello out there!!!

  I recently started to work out, well about 2 years ago and
  I have bee working at it off and on.  Usually because I keep
  losing lifting partners.  Does anybody out there have a 
  good work out plan for a single person.  I mean I can get
  spots when I need them but I don't really know a good workout
  plan that has always been my partners job.  
  
  I do know a lot of exercises, I just don't know which ones
  to string together.

  I am an average guy, wanting to lose my pugyness, tighten up my
  chest and I want to increase my vertical jump.

  If you can help please email me at sie_0180@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu

  Thanks in advance.
  Bruce.....
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk (John Nelson)
Subject: Biceps without curls...                 
Cc: Monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: monster@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:49:00 +0000

 I have a lot of problems with my wrists when I do EZ Bar curls (I had to
give up barbell curls looong ago as even more damaging.) I don't use ultra
heavy weights (I wish...), I use good slow form and don't jerk the bar but I
still get sharp pains in various bits of the wrist, even though I started
taping them when it first occured. I don't think it's anything like Carpal's
- the pain is in the wrist joint or slightly above, between where the second
and third fingers start.
 I mentioned it to the doc - I say to him "I get pains in my wrists when I
curl weights." He says, "Don't curl weights." He's a nice guy but he doesn't
understand the dream.

 First off, I'm working on wrist and reverse wrist curls to strengthen the
weakness. Heck, I'm even using electro-muscular stimulation to loosen up the
area (worked for my knees!).
 Anyway, enough whining - what I really want to know is a good alternative to
barbell curls for building biceps. Oh, although it's not so bad, I do have
difficulty with dumbbell curls as well. (used to be healthy, then I started
lifting weights. yup...)
 I tried a few under-grip pull-ups and it felt pretty good (TRANS: murder on
my arms - I might just possibly be carrying a leetle extra weight around my
middle.) Am I gonna get anywhere with these or is it a dead-end? I really
only need something to maintain what I've got for a few months until I've
strengthened my wrists and I can get back to the EZ bar.

 Posts or email would really be appreciated!


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From: cannon@superdist.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Cannon)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: SQUATS: horrible marks
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:39:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cannon@superdist.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: superdist.ebay.sun.com
Keywords: Weightlifting

When I do squats or other leg movements requiring heavy weight on
my traps. (upper shoulders), etc. , I get several horrible looking marks
all over this area on my back.  It looks as through I have been scratched
several times by some kind of animal.  It will usually take about 3 to 4
days to disappear.  Yes, I do use the pad on the bar or a towel.
Does anyone know of any tricks to prevent this from happening?  

Please email me your response and post to the net.  I am sure any solutions
would assist others also.

Thanks,

Jeff
*****************



Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis)
Subject: Re: What's an aerobic exercise? What isn't?
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:54:47 GMT

In <1992Nov17.150847.21341@oakhill.sps.mot.com> mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun )) writes:

>The physical activity need not be non-stop, but the elevated heart
>rate must be continued.  A five second rest stop is not long enough
>for the heart rate to drop out of the target zone.

What about people in stressful situations whose heart-rates are continuously
elevated (racing car drivers come to mind).  Are they doing aerobic exercise?
If not, why?

james
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mathews@huge1.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Ahem...Some of us like Bally's Fitness Center!
Reply-To: mathews@huge1.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:57:53 GMT


--

In defense to Bally's...there are many of us out here who belong to the club,
and are quite happy with them...both as a health club, and as a business.

Because someone doesn't read the 'fine print', or adhere to required channels 
set forth by the company, and subsequently has a bad experience, doesn't mean
the company is at fault or responsible.  Bottom line is that, you are
responsible for your own actions, and your own money.  Not Bally's.  They are
in business to stay in business.

$.02 from a happy member!

jeremy

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: silver@wam.umd.edu (Adam H. Silver)
Subject: Re: Hurting Wrists and Push-Ups
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:00:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov24.015654.8394@wam.umd.edu> mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu writes:
>
>I do a lot of typing, and I play the piano.  I'm curious to know if doing  
>standard push-ups can be bad for the wrists.
>
>What types of excercises can be done to strengthen the wrists?
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>			mmeltzer@wam.umd.edu is
>
>			     Marc Meltzer
>		      President of The Meltz Inc
>	 "Our job is to play games.  Our hobby is to consult."

I wouldn't think that standard push-ups are "bad" for the wrists, but they can
stress out the wrists.  The best way to strengthen wrists is by doing wrist
curls.  You can use a dumbbell or a barbell.  Take a dumbbell, for instance,
and hold the end of your wrist over your knee and curl up the dumbbell and
let it drop.  Do about 15 reps.  Make it burn in your forearms.  Do reverse
wrist curls too.

							-Adam

PS  You can also let the weight roll down your fingers and curl up from there.
This will stress your wrist a little more and help you increase your grip
strength.

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     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
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From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: What's an aerobic exercise? What isn't?
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:21:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: unocal.1992Nov18.162112.24530
Organization: Unocal Corporation

In article <jamesp.722051687@bison> jamesp@cs.uwa.oz.au (James Pinakis) writes:
>In <1992Nov17.150847.21341@oakhill.sps.mot.com> mack@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Gregg Mack ( Sun )) writes:
>
>>The physical activity need not be non-stop, but the elevated heart
>>rate must be continued.  A five second rest stop is not long enough
>>for the heart rate to drop out of the target zone.
>
>What about people in stressful situations whose heart-rates are continuously
>elevated (racing car drivers come to mind).  Are they doing aerobic exercise?

No.  Heart rate is one indicator, but not the only one.  The entire
circulatory system must be elevated including blood flow and oxygen 
consumption.  Periodic elevation of the circulatory system increases
its efficiency.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mcdevitt@glas.rtsg.mot.com (Aidan McDevitt)
Subject: Re: Health Questions
Organization: Motorola Ireland Ltd., Cork, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:21:48 GMT

bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson) writes:

>In article <1992Nov2.140320.489@hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>>> If someone is experiencing anxiety, what can be done to help control this.

>   Everyone experiences a certain level of anxiety in their
>everyday lives. This "constant" level of anxiety is not likely
>to change. I consider myself maybe a little more anxious than
>the average person, and this level of anxiety is known to
>remain fairly constant throughout a persons life. Not that
>I'm a nervous wreck or anything! I do find that excercise
>and sex have the best effect when I do feel anxious. Hope
>this helps!
>			     -Bruce-

Have to agree with that!
Deep relaxation is another I find very useful. WEar loose clothing, and lie down on
a bed, or even the floor. Then imagine all the stress and tension in your body flowing
from your head down through your body and out your feet. Then relax your body bit by
bit, starting with your feet. Say to yourself, "I'm now relaxing my feet and letting
all the tension go", and feel them relaxing as you say it. Then do the same for your ankles,
calves, knees, thighs, bottom, then shoulders, upper back, arms, hands, then lower back.
Then imagine your forehead going completely smooth and relaxed, then around your eyes, 
your mouth, your neck and throat (LOADS of tension here usually). Let your chest relax,
and feel it getting lighter, then your stomach. Now just lie there for about 20mins-
half an hour, or until you wake up again! Don't set an alarm - just finish whenever you
feel like it. 
It's also nice to do this to relaxing music at a low volume - listening
to the music takes your mind off things and usually prevents you from falling asleep.
I've often been so tired that I don't even get past my ankles before falling asleep,
even when I'm also tense or worried! 

Try it out!
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From: hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Help. Can't do Incline Press.
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:45:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov19.034508.21957
Organization: University of Washington

krueger@cs.uwp.edu (Gerald Krueger) writes:

>Up until a few months ago I was completely ignorant to the fact that
>flat bench does not work the entire pectorals equally.  I found this 
>out when I tried to do incline and could do only about 65% of what I
>can do on a flat bench.  Since then I have adjusted my routine to 
>include some incline.  Since I always start using 5 sets of flat bench
>I think my triceps get tired and can't work the incline as hard.  I
>am reluctant to mess with the initial 5 sets of flat bench because
>I have seen steady results.

>What is the best way to get my incline up while still working on 
>the flat?  It is defeating for me to work with weights on the incline
>that I left long ago on the flat.

>Will it take as long for my incline to develop as it did my flat?
>I feel that since the two are closely related it shouldn't take 
>quite as long.

>Currently I work 10-12 sets of a variety of incline/flat exercises, 
>twice a week.
>					All Advice Appreciated,
>					Jerry

I'm certainly no expert (in fact, a rank amateur) but I noticed that if I
did inclines _before_ flat benching I could do a lot more weight on the
incline right away, and my weight on the flats, which initially went down
because I was tiring the muscles on the inclines, went back up to its
previous level very quickly.

I would also like to put in a plug for doing incline dumbell presses
rather than barbell presses. They are much kinder to your shoulders and
seem to do the job just as well.

Steven Hodas