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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:51:45 EST
From:         John <john@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Best Postscript Printer
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Oh happy day!  I got the official "OK" this afternoon.  The dept. is
splurging and will purchase a postscript printer and put my laserjet (the
postscript wannabe) out to pasture.

"So tell us" - they said, "What's the best product, in terms of price,
performance, etc.  Gulp! - and a blank stare was all I could muster.

So of course, I've decided to refer this question to my favorite panel
of experts.  (Yes, I promise - once I become a more proficient DTPer,
I'll do more giving and less asking).

Laura


IMHO On the PC side, HP LaserJet IIIsi postscript with 5+ megs of RAM.
          This is a 17 ppm printer that holds 2 reams of paper. There
          is a duplex option that is nice but not necessary. It has
          ATM technology built into it. It will (I believe) autodetect
          PCL (non postscript) and PS and switch itself to the
          appropriate mode. If it doesn't, it is a matter of pushing
          abutton. It will take a network cad and be able to hang
          directly of a network, ethernet or token ring.

          John Finnegan
          john@iusmail.ius.indiana.edu
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:15:19 PDT
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TOC

Jim,
You may have to reformat/change styles the TOC after Pagemaker generates it. One
common problem is using the wrong type of tab. You want a "left" tab rather than
a "right" tab for page numbers. Otherwise the page numbers tend to float all
over the right side of the page.

Were there other problems you were having? You can also go into styles and alter
the type, spacing, etc., to adjust the look of the TOC to the way you want.

Hope this helps,

Monte
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:15:46 EST
From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Windows 3.1
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Anyone know of any support groups for Windows ver 3.1? Believe me, I
need all the help I can get!!!!


Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:41:24 EDT
From:         "Austin Twigg Catonsville CC OTC Printing AAKL0"
              <AATW%CATCC.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Freehand
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How about "Real World Freehand 3" by Olav Kvern, from Peachpit Press
1991, $27.95.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:49:07 BRA
Comments:     Resent-From: Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ>
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From:         Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Dingbats

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In windows 3.1 for the pc, does anyone use the dingbat fonts? I have
them, but I can't find any screen fonts for them, which makes it VERY
difficult to see which one you use.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

 If you don't mind using a comercial software Bitstream Facelift
(mine came with the PS cartridge for the HP III - From Pacific Page)
will do the job.

Amaury Bentes
Rio de Janeiro
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:25:13 BRA
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              PATRICK SURESH" <B372%NEMOMUS.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
From:         Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      fonts & other things

 I've received this as a private reply but I think it can be considered
 a general interest subject:


----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Amaury,
  If you're running PM4 and Corel on a 386 or higher, don't forget
to take advantage of virtual memory under Windows.  Windows 3.1
pretty much takes care of this automatically, but with 3.0 or 3.1
a permanent swap file will let you use a lot more fonts.  I don't
know how much memory each font takes up (I imagine some take up
more space than others), but there are many good shareware
utilities available that let you know how much memory you have
available for windows applications.  If shareware isn't your
cup-of-tea, Norton Utilities for Windows has a dandy memory
mapper.

  I also had trouble converting CD 2.0 fonts with WFNBOSS.  Please
let me know if anyone reports having better luck with different
versions.

Patrick Solomon
Northeast Missouri State University

====================End of Original message=======================

 Yes, I've read in a recent Makron book about Corel Draw that its
font converter was substantially improved from version 2.1 on /
I don't know what is the last shipped version, but it must surely
be the easiest one to deal with. With the version I use one is
supposed to use DEBUG to include the string: "e108 PS-AdobeFont-1.: "
or something alike into the .PFB file. You also have to assign a
different ID font number using windows Write so that there is no
conflict when ATM manages the converted font.

 According to the book all those boring proceedings have been elimin-
ated frin version 2.1 on.

 By the way, could you tell us the name of one of those memory
reporting shareware programs?

 Amaury Bentes
 Rio de Janeiro
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:09:26 BRA
From:         Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Corel
              21 Jul 1992 14:53:39 EST from <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>

Jim... (or anybody else)

    If you find a Corel Draw discussion group, please let us know. Corel
is the perfect complement to Page Maker.

   Amaury
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:55:01 -0400
From:         Elena DeFelice <defelice@A1.RELAY.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      TOC

>I guess I'll do it the old fashion way because the paragraph titles I
>chose didn't match what I wanted. Thanks for the help!


>Jim Charles
>Computer Data Systems Inc.
>Naval Surface Warfare Center


Jim,

If you have a alot of text on alot of pages, I strongly recommend that you
don't do the TOC by hand. Generate the TOC, and as Monte said, go in and
change the "TOC" styles sheets that PM generates. I usually only use one or
two "TOC" style sheets just to keep the format clean. That way you don't have
to count any pages, etc. (it's not worth the time and effort.)


It's not scary and it's not hard. Try it!

Elena

DeskTop Pub. Serv.
Univ Penn
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:26:00 EDT
From:         "Sandra Ross, The Citadel, (803) 792-6985" <ROSSS@CITADEL.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PPD warning dialog box

Once you select the PPD, you need to resave the document with that PPD selected,
then it'll put the right one in every time you print that particular document.

Just remember to do this everytime you open a 4.0 doc in 4.2 and you won't get
that irritating message, but once.

Sandra Ross
ROSSS@CITADEL.EDU
The Citadel
From: vchan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Victor Chan)
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Subject: Re: Dingbats
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 22:39:25 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I think the dingbats font is Truetype.  So under Fonts in Control Panel, 
you have to activate/toggle the Truetype enable.

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From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Corel
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Does anyone know if there is a support group for CorelDraw! out there
anywhere?


Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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I think you'll find the brochure template you want in the TEMPLATES sub-
diK
rectory of c:PM4. (Or whatever corresponds to this if you're using a Mac.)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:08:22 CDT
From:         Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      The WYSIWYG Booklett
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Lavern writes...

> Someone sent info on a book that was very helpful - so I called for the
> book (Peter Fink Communications Inc. in Washington D.C.) and they are
> mailing it to me as long as I send in $10.00.  That's fine, but since I
> received the information on this list, I deleted all my messages and for
> the life of me can't remember the name of the book.  Can anyone help?

Ouch!    $10.00 -- This surprises me, especially since I'm the one
recommending this booklett, we pay $2.95/ea for them in quantities of 100
so I didn't expect the booklett to be that expensive one at a time.  Let
me temporarily suspend my recommendation until I can look into this more.
I assumed they would charge $5.00 or so plus shipping and handling.  I
still think it is a great booklett and is probably worth more than $10,
but let me make a phone call and find out why it's so expensive.

BTW, the Name of the booklett is "How to make sure what you see is what
you get!:  Expert tips for success in PostScript output"



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** Jeff Bone                                <jbone@dopig.uab.edu>
** Coordinator for Electronic Imaging       AppleLink: jbone
** Photography and Instructional Graphics   205.934.4396 voice
** University of Alabama at Birmingham      205.934.3749 fax
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:55:19 CDT
From:         Marc Becker <MABECKER@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Laser Printers and brochure formats

I have two questions that I could use some advice on:

1) I'm looking at doing some small time desktop publishing.  Currently I
have a HP Deskjet (the original model), but I am not happy with the quality
of its output.  So, I'm looking at getting a laser printer, but I don't want
to spend a lot of money.  Does anybody have any advice on what would be
a good route to go?  I'm looking at maybe a HP IIP, or something like that.

2) Does anybody have a basic template (or measurements) for a basic 2
sided 11 X 8.5 trifolded brochure so that the panels are properly balanced
when it is folded?

Thanks,
MARC BECKER
UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS
           MABECKER@UKANVM (BITNET)
           MARC@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU (INTERNET)
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:11:00 EST
From:         UNCKCB@UNC.BITNET
Subject: Re: I am interesting in getting some input from newsletter

Could you be a little more specific about the type of "input" or sorts
of "techniques" you're interested in? Thanks.

Karen Blansfield
UNC-Chapel Hill
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:40:00 ADT
From:         jaberback@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA
Subject:      RE: PowerBooks & DTP

>In article <PAGEMAKR%92072623351988@INDYCMS.BITNET> Reverend John
><UC521832@MIZZOU1.BITNET> writes:
>> Question: I own an LC (6/40) and an Apple 13". I'm always running out
>> of hard drive space, and the lack of speed is discouraging (Quark is
>> near-impossible to use for that reason).
>>
>> Rather than, say, buying a 33Mhz Daystar PowerCache board ($650) and
>> a second hard drive (say $350), I'm considering selling the LC & monitor
>> and putting that money towards buying a PowerBook while I'm still in
>> school and can get them "cheap."
>>
>> So! Most of my work is word processing, with the end results going
>> into pagemaker. I do four-six largish DTP projects a year, at my own
>> pace. Has anyone done much DTP work with a PowerBook? How much of a
>> problem is the smaller screen? Screen refresh? Any stories to tell?
>> Is this a decent idea--buying, say a 4/80 140 or 170?
>>
>> I really need some advice...
>>
>> Rev
>
>I would HATE to try DTPing on a PowerBook.  Even with a mouse.   I'd
>stick with the LC.  But a PowerBook makes a good portable hard drive.
>--
>| The floggings will continue until morale improves
>| Pat.Churchill@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (Pat Churchill, Wellington, New Zealand)
>| NZ is running low on electricity - Email some today
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have both an SE/30 with a 14" colour display as well as a PowerBook 170,
and I do DTP on both. However, there's nothing like doing your DTP outside
while catching some rays ;-) Try that with your LC!
===========================================================================
Joy Aberback-Microcomputer Coordinator-jaberback@husky1.stmarys.ca
Saint Mary's University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

          I haven't lost my mind...it's backed up on disk somewhere
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Subject:      I am interesting in getting some input from newsletter
              editors/pub

ers in compiling a "most useful technique" list for students.  Any comments are
 appreciated.  Thanks.  Jan Dunham, SIU School of Medicine, Springfield, IL.

Jan Dunham, Associate Director of Outreach and Education
Alzheimer's Disease Center
SIU School of Medicine, P.O. Box 19230, Springfield, IL 62794
SM0053@SPRINGB   217/524-6718
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:05:10 EDT
From:         Rosemary=Hallberg%NetAd%HSRD@HSRD.SOWO.UNC.EDU
Subject:      re: Laser Printers and brochure formats

We have a LaserJet III and are currently using it without the Postscript
cartridge.  Some of the graphics are not as true as they are on my NEC
Postscript, but most of them are pretty close.  I was not in charge of
purchasing it, so I don't know how much it is, but we have been pleased with
it here.

Rosemary Hallberg
Human Services Lab
UNC Chapel Hill
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From:         JDFLET01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU
Subject:      Tektronics printer woes

Justin, sounds like you need MORE POWER! No seriously, it sounds like your
printers are all running out of memory. I know the Tektronics comes with a
bunch, but it needs every bit of it and when it runs short, maybe thats whats
causing the B&W version to print. But, hey, CALL TEKTRONICS! Sounds like they
should have a PPD sitting on the shelf with your name on it. The graphics are
probably what's slowing you up. Are they scanned or drawn?

________________________________________________________________________
                     Jonathan Fletcher

  'NET: JDFLET01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU    "The reward for work well
               University Publications     done is the opportunity
              University of Louisville     to do more."
                 Louisville, KY  40292             --Jonas Salk
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From:         Kim Albrecht <kim_albrecht@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Subject- Postscript Problem

Subject: Postscript Problems in PageMaker

I'm having a problem printing from PM 4.2 to a LaserWriter IIf printer.  The
situation:  I've created a document that I'm trying to print using manual feed,
landscape orientation, and legal paper.  I've chosen Legal with Wide
orientation
in the Page Setup box and Legal from the Paper option within the Print dialog
box.  When I try to print, it brings up the standard messages box ("Starting
printer query", etc.) and then it pops up an error dialog saying:  "Cannot
print.
 A PostScript error has occurred.  Please try to print again." along with the
numbers 7301:5804 in the lower right corner.  Behind this is the standard
message
box, with the following message:  "%%[ Error:  configurationerror; Offending
Command:  setpagedevice;  ErrorInfo: PageSize -- nostringval --]%%

I can print using the Apple printer driver, but I'd rather find out what's
going
on with the Aldus driver.  The document doesn't contain any funky fonts -- just
Times and an occasional Zapf Dingbat.  System 7.0.1 with TuneUp 1.1.1 running
on
a Mac IIsi is the configuration I'm running under.  Does anyone have any ideas
what is happening?  Please respond to me ASAP.  Thanks!  :-)
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From:         "Jeffrey L. Needleman" <JNeedleman@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Installing printer font on Mac without screen bitmaps
X-To:         PAGEMAKR@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU

I've got a program (WRefont) that takes an IBM .PFB font file and converts
it into a Mac postscript type one printer outline font. But the program is
NOT able to construct Mac screen bitmaps of the font.  I'm trying to figure
out a way to install such a font into my system without having to buy an
expensive program that can construct the bitmaps.

I thought that I might just take any very large size of any bitmapped font,
change the name and the font ID number to that of the printer outline font
internal font name/id#--and then ATM will construct the screen bit mapped
sizes for me as needed, wimping out only for that very large bitmapped size
that I actually installed. But I can't figure out how to make those
changes. I think using ResEdit to change the FOND resource is the right
idea, but I can't seem to get it to work. Can anyone give me clear
step-by-step instructions or suggest a different way to get the same
result?  Thanks.
Jeff Needleman  <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:03:32 EST
From:         John <john@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re[4]: Freehand
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Thanks John for the correction on the title of the Freehand book.-JT

No problem. Excellent book!! I have just started using Freehand and
          rely on that book and the magazine "Before and After". The
          magazine has some excellent stuff.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:09:45 PDT
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: That Old Printer

Laura,
It seems to me you couldn't go wrong with any of the printers suggested. I used
an NEC LC890 in the old(er) days, and it was a good printer for its time. I've
read lots about the NEC suggested here, and it looks good too. As for HP, it
seems that almost anything they produce is high quality if also high cost
sometimes, especially for the consummables.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 07:35:27 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      ALVA
X-To:         allmusic@american.edu

Regarding your comment, just wanted to ask what you think of Living Color.
Though their latest release falls off, their first two (Vivid, and I forget the
name of the second) are some of the most exciting rock (?) I've heard in a
long time--really inspiring.  This doesn't get at the social/cultural side of
what you're talking about; the pressures to fit into little-box
categories are out there in one form or another everywhere...all I can say is,
the more people who challenge them, the better.
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:03:17 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: dig this
              30 Jul 1992 21:56:36 GMT from <ujwb@UXA.ECN.BGU.EDU>

On Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:56:36 GMT Jeff Beer said:
>         JAZZ NOTE -- Saxophonist-composer Ornette Coleman has received a
>         $19,000 grant from Meet the Composer/Rockefeller Foundation/AT&T
>         Jazz Program to write a 40-minute work for eight to 20 performers
>         to be premiered at the 1993 Los Angeles Festival.  Trumpeter Cecil
>         Bridgewater was another MTC recipient, and he will concoct a 30-
>         minute work for a 17-piece band that will be dedicated to the late
>         alto great Cannonball Adderley. ... Among the other grantees was
>         percussionist Adam Rudolph ... LA Times, F21, 7/24

I saw Bridgewater twice, with the Max Roach Quartet, and despite a few cracked
notes and limited range, feel that his soloing was witty and inventive. Also
plays with a warm tone. A highlight of the first concert I saw (about '87 or
so) was when Bridgewater performed an imitation of a lovers' argument followed
by a passionate making up, all on his mouthpiece. He had it all down pat,
every grunt, moan and sigh, to a hilarious climax. He probably worked up the
routine on a band bus or something and the other guys got a kick out of it &
suggested that he do it during gigs. Needless to say, the crowd was tickled
pink.

I'm not familiar with Adam Rudolph. Anybody out there know his stuff?
Thanks,
Rick
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:48:04 EDT
From:         CW06GST <CW06GST@SJUMUSIC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: noisy guitar

Excuse me, but wasn't "Blowin' In the Wind" written by Dylan?
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