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From: wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
Subject: Re: A Wolfpack fan reflects....
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:02:49 GMT

Hey I know the feeling man, I went to the Gator Bowl to see us
get stomped by Oklahoma last year.  You have my deepest
sympathy, I'm just glad you guys beat us and kept us out of
bowl contention.  I couldn't take another stomping like that.
Good luck next year when we come down and humiliate you at home
again. :)  Just kidding, you guys have a damn good team down
there.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: easley@harpo.dev.uga.edu (Mike Easley)
Subject: Re: All Hail The TIDE !!!
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:18:51 GMT

In article <79050@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie) wrote:
>}
>}Yeah, I can. Take away two of Gino's errors (the two INT's in the 3rd
>}quarter), and it becomes *anyones* ball game.
>
>HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !
>
>Stop it - you're killing me!
>
>How about this - take away only *one* interception against Penn State
>and the overrated Blowhards wouldn't have even been playing in the
>Sugar Bowl for the championship. 

Either that or give Syracuse about 30 more seconds...:)

>
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
>
>   "Eenie weenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak."
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easley@athena.cs.uga.edu
easley@harpo.dev.uga.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Subject: Re: Ohio St (national merit scholars) Wussconsin
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:43:27 GMT
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Cooper - Ohio St - Chris Stassen
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:37:40 GMT

jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:

>Because of some rather nasty things said about Cooper's 
>coaching tactics, I have, via private email, been threatened by Chris 
>Stassen with stuff like

> "I have forwarded your postings to John Cooper. It will be interesting
>  to see his reaction. It may even be grounds for legal action.
> 
>                                                   Chris Stassen"
> 

>Worse yet, he even told his big sister, the attorney, on me!


If he reproduces private email you send to him without your express
written consent (email or otherwise), you may have grounds for legal
action against him.  Also, you can put a copyright statement in your
.sig file to be attached to all your mail which can state something
to the effect of "This message is copyrighted to James R.
Fehnrenbacker.  Any rebroadcast, copy, or  . . . without the express
written consent of James R. Fehnrenbacker is considered illegal and
can be . . . ".  In other words, you can copyright anything you
post and have it legal and binding.  BTW, just for the record, since
I am not a legal aide, or a lawyer, any advice I give to you should
be verified through legal means as my advice is advice only, and
therefore comes free of charge.

allen
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: sl45z@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Important Name Change
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:33:27 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	In a few articles in the past, I refered to Miami's QB as

	Gino "How'd we win that one?" Toretta

	We can no longer live in the past,  I must update his name in light of
his magnificent Sugar Bowl appearance.  ('Bama fans loved it!)  We can all
recognize Miami's graduating QB as...

	Gino "I lost that one!" Toretta

	Not to steal anything from 'Bama's game, but you have to admit that
Gino sucked BIG TIME.  Four interceptions for 21 points.  I think he's got a
good start into his soon to be infamous Pro career.

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From: mujtaba@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mujtaba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: RECRUITING: Texas/Texas A&M
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:04:26 GMT
Reply-To: mujtaba@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mujtaba)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: mujtaba@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu

Is there anyone out there who knows how Texas recruiting is coming along?
A friend told me that  he read in some newspaper that Texas A&M has received
verbal commitments from 3 of the best offensive linemen and 2 very good
defensive linemen from the state of Texas. Also they've got the nod from a
damn DB who is being very heavily recruited by Notr Dame, Miami, Nebraska

and Texas. Texas really needs good DB's, now that the fab four are graduating
Looks like the aggies are going to have a banner recruiting year even with 
only 10, or 11 scholarships to hand out.
As far as Texas is concerned, I know that we've received a verbal commitment
from one of the best quarterback prospects out of high school this year.
If he comes to Texas, then we don't have to worry about quarterbacks for
quite a while.
I'm really quite optimistic about our recruiting this year. After what Coach
Mackovic accomplished last year. And with so little time to do it in.
If anyone knows about Texas recruiting , please post what you know.
bye now.


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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Big East Review: TEMPLE
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 22:27:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.212620.9742@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
|> 
|> Well, the bowl games have been played, which should officially
|> mark the end of the college football season.  It's time to reflect
|> on what kind of season it was for the Big East teams.  I'll do one
|> team a day, starting at the bottom of the heap and working up the
|> chart.                                                      

Just so there's no confusion, that means tomorrow (Tuesday) is Virginia Tech 
day...

Man, I wish we were a Wednesday or Thursday program!  Oh, just imagine 
fellow Hokies (hey, you guys still here?), the joy and sense of accomplishment 
of being a "second weeker"!  Finally, we've got something to shoot for!

Bob, if you're a kind soul, you'll at least wait until the afternoon to give
us the straight-talk on Tech.  A post-5pm report would be most gracious, 
although I know we really don't deserve it.

|> "Listen up son, and pay attention.   |  Bob Dieckmann (rwd@quartet.att.com)

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com

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From: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: Worst Announcer
Reply-To: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:08:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.135409.16699@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, rnjx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

>Worst announcer in football?  It can't be Keith Jackson---he's harmless.

Agreed, Keith Jackson is actually better than most in my oppinion

>Musberger is just annoying. 

Very much so in fact I sometimes have to turn him off. The worst
thing about him is that for whatever reason he seems to favor
one team over another during the game. He was so obviously
pulling for Washington in the Rose Bowl and at one point
nearly lost control after Washington gained a whomping 10
yards on a play. He's obnoxious, annoying and just plain bad
but for some reason they keep using him.



> Todd Christensen, on the other hand, is
>offensive.  Anyone who watched the Fiesta Bowl had the (dis)pleasure of
>hearing his ``color'' commentary.  That color must be black.  He has the
>most soporific, deadpan delivery, seems to feel no excitement at all
>with what he's doing, and constantly denigrates the players' achievements
>on the field.  The way he analyzes plays, you get the impression that no one
>ever does anything well; good things happen to one team only when the other
>team commits some egregious error.  Get a life, buddy.  Maybe he can wander
>off to broadcasters' purgatory to play gin with Joe Namath...
>-- 
Can't argue with that.


My vote for the worst is actually related to pro ball but what
the heck it's Joe Theisman. He is absolutly terrible in my opinion.
Not only is his voice annoying but he is often completely wrong
in his analysis. In one recent game he stated "Miami won't run
the ball again today, look for Marino to air it out from now
on" Miami proceeded to run the ball about 10 straight times
after he said that and I beleive they scored.



KRM
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: niebuhr@bnlux1.bnl.gov (david niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Alabama v. Miami
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 02:00:46 GMT

In article <79113@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison) wrote:
>}
>}That concludes todays meeting of BA.  Refreshments consisting of iced
>}tea, craw-dads, and sugar-Cane stew are available at the back of the
>}room.  Ya'll come back, now! :-)
>
>Would that be sweetened or unsweetened iced tea?
>   "Eenie weenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak."

Who cares, let's eat!

Dave
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Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093
From: rownd@moby.micro.umn.edu (Brooks Kerry Rownd)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Feeding a blowhard some humble pie
Keywords: One of the "J's"
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:39:55 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS


	[Much wind deleted...]
>
>I will never forget Teague running down Thomas and stealing the ball from
>him.  Bill Oliver (Bama Def. Cord.) said "it was the greatest individual
>effort he had ever seen".  Me Too!!!
>
	I imagine (hope) we'll see that play become part of highlight history
just behind the Stanford band play.  This was a thing of beauty.  It was more
than a thing of beauty - it was THE most amazing performance I've ever seen as
well as being a thing of beauty.  I wish I had that baby on tape.  8^)

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bkrrrrr                    /\     || 2-Miami 6-Georg 10-Stan 14-Color 18-WshSt
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(128.101.221.1)          /    \   || 4-NotrD 8-Syrac 12-Nebr 16-Missi 20-NCaro
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Ohio State Football - No fun, no future to it's players and recrui
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:33:39 GMT

zcjm0f@wwnv67.hou.amoco.com (CJohn Mace) writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.060753.11216@tessi.com> allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:
>>dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer) writes:
>>[ long copying of earlier posts deleted ]
>>
>>Other than pointing out the terrible grammar, poor spelling, and possibly
>>even a 'hunt and peck' style of typing, what's your point?  Are you
>>discrediting everything stated merely because the grammar and spelling
>>were so hideous?  I don't necessarily agree with the views of the person
>>who made all the errors, but I simply read the message and forgot about the
>>poor command of the English language.
>>
>>allen

>Remember that thought the next time you look at a resume...  :-)

Come on John, the Net is CERTAINLY not the same as a resume.  I don't
make my posts all neat and sweet, nor do I spend hours preparing them.

Anyway, maybe your smiley at the end was sarcasm, maybe not.  Still,
your statement really doesn't compare apples to apples, or is that
buckeyes to buckeyes?  =)

allen
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: zcjm0f@wwnv67.hou.amoco.com (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: 'Bama in the computer rankings
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:40:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.182028.9697@b11.b11.ingr.com> guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.171511.7529@b11.b11.ingr.com>, guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
>(That's me!) wrote:
>
>|> I did note that *none* of the various "systems" predicted Alabama to win over 
>|> Miami except Chris Stassen's.
>
>    Oops!  That should read "*none* of the various "systems" in Chris Stassen's
>CFPOOL entries predicted Alabama to win over Miami except John Mace's."
>
>    Sorry John and good call!

Too bad it didn't help the rest of the picks...  :-)

cmuck
>
>--
>Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com  or  ...uunet!ingr!b11!mspe5!guy
>		  "All I need is a pint a day"


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Big East Review: SYRACUSE
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:52:44 GMT


Syracuse '92:  Orange you glad they're in the Big East?

Is the number 6 team in the nation far behind the number 3 team?
I don't think so.  So what's all this talk about the Big East being
Miami and the 7 Dwarfs?  Syracuse has firmly stamped itself as
a top-notch program getting ready for a Conference title and 
maybe even a National Championship.  Coach Paul Pasqualoni took
over the lead position for the Syracuse Orangemen two years ago
succeeding a very successful Dick MacPherson, who went on to
big bucks in the pros (and recent unemployment).  Did Syracuse
miss MacPherson?  Hardly.  The Orangemen have gone 20-4 for Pasqualoni
and gave the Big East their only Bowl win for the year by edging Colorado.


                1992*   1991*   1990    1989    1988    1987    1986
Syracuse        10-2    10-2    7-4-2    8-4    10-2    11-0-1   5-6

*Paul Pasqualoni's years (20-4).


Looking through Orange-colored glasses:

1.  Second straight 10-2 season.

2.  A national recruiting base.  Last year's recruits came from 
9 different states (5 recruits from NJ).  Reading the bios on this
class impresses me.

3.  An excellent offense (>28ppg), a fine defense (>14ppg), and an
exceptional special teams unit. 

4.  Senior Chris Gedney, who was the unanimous choice amongst the coaches for
Tight End.  Junior QB Marvin Graves who continues to rewrite the record books
at the 'cuse.
      

Looking through Dark glasses:

1.  A very disappointing, one-sided, home loss to Ohio State.

2.  A heart-breaking loss to Miami closing out the regular season,
again, at home. 

3.  Did not hold anyone to less than 7 points.

4.  A regrettable game against West Virginia that was royally screwed up
by the zebras.


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How ya' gonna learn anything if you  |  GO: Mets (& dear old Rutgers)
always got your head in a book?"     |  I probably should've included smileys.
                -- Foghorn Leghorn   |  **usual disclaimer**
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: elsonliu@leland.Stanford.EDU (Liu)
Subject: Re: Hail Stanford!--best record in the PAC10
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 07:37:29 GMT

In article <yvonne.726286459@well.sf.ca.us> yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee) writes:
>
>Of course don't *count* on the Rose Bowl, or anything else in Stanford
>football, but there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic.

Ah yes, the "cardinal" rule for cardinal football - beating Notre Dame and
losing to San Jose St. in the same season.  To be honest, I don't really
care if Walsh takes Stanford to the Rose Bowl or wins a national
championship - what I really want is a consistently winning program.  I
think that will do a lot more for Stanford's long term football program
than one Rose Bowl or whatever.  Of course, Rose Bowls and national
championships can't hurt... :-)

.....Elson.....

> 
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From: wcarroll@encore.com (William Carroll)
Subject: Re: Sugar Bowl Thoughts
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:31:57 GMT

gt6249c@prism.gatech.EDU (Bin Chen) writes:
>In article <79058@hydra.gatech.EDU> (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>>The silence from the net.blowhards is nearly deafening. 

>I guess Encore lost their newsfeed huh?

No, we're still here. Though I haven't seen any Hurricanes paraphanelia
around lately.

My thoughts: after all the success UF had with the shuttle passes in the
SEC Championship, I don't recall the Blowhards trying it once.

Likewise, UF had some success (though not enough) stacking against the
run and daring Barker to throw. So why didn't Miami, with their all-world
secondary try it?


I didn't originally plan on watching the Sugar Bowl, but when I turned it
on just before the second half kickoff with Bama winning, I had to stay
tuned just to watch UM get beat.

Later, my wife (who is definitely no football fan) asked me "what was so
amazing?" Evidently, my reaction to Teague's play-that-wasn't was a little
louder than I realized. Rank it as the play-of-the-year (or maybe ever).


And finally: Hey Jason, need an extra copy of that big color photo that
was on the front page of the Sun-Sentinel? You know, the one with a
dejected-looking Gino sitting beside fastest-receiver-in-the-world Lamar,
who has his head in his hands covered by a towel? If you want one for home
and one for work, let me and I'll give you mine. Maybe some kind soul with a
scanner would even scan it for you so you can use it as a background screen.


Floridian by birth, Gator by the Grace of God!


William R. Carroll (Encore Computer, Ft. Lauderdale FL) wcarroll@encore.com

"We trained hard,  but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form
up into teams, we would be reorganized.  I was to learn later in life that
we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing;  and a wonderful method
it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion,
inefficiency, and demoralization."	-Petronius Arbiter, 210 BC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: lein@cat.bae.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: Re: Where are the PSU fans now?
Reply-To: lein@bae.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 15:22:26 GMT

In article <93005.070607KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>, <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>   As I have said all season PSU was overrated from the beginning.  The PSU fans
> didn't see the signs when they failed to beat any ranked teams (actually the
> didn't beat a team that ended up with a winning record), and they didn't see

Oh Well, there still the best 5 lost team in the country. (They did lose
three games by a total of 7 points)
I thought Rutgers and WVU had winning marks

> the signs after the miserable Boston College game, but they sure as hell have
> to be blind to see it now.  the combined record of teams that PSU beat is
> 23-53 (that is 3 wins a team) which is not much to hang a hat on. (yes I am
> woofing right now).  Yes, they played well against Miami and Notre Dame, but
> one was at home and the other was an unusually cold and wet day in South Bend.

It was cold an wet on both sides of the field - weather is part of the game
(unless you build a dome).  Maybe Brooks would have had more yards, maybe
O.J. would have caught a few bombs, maybe Richie Anderson wouldn't have slipped
on every other carry, what's your point.  

>    The game has passed JoePa by.  They didn't even put up a fight against the
> CArdinal in the Blockbuster Bowl. PSU has the talent (richie anderson and oj
> mcduffie will be good on the next level and their defense is adaquate) but
> JoePa is stuck in some time warp.  Get him out of there before he ruins the
> reputation of the football program (ok, so I went a little over board here).
>    Actually I expect PSU to do a little better in the Big Ten+1 because of the
> relative weakness of the conference as compared to playing the Miami's and the
> Syracuse's of the world.  Speed is the game in the Big East, SEC and the ACC,
  ^^^^^^^^
  Didn't help SU against Ohio St (in the dome)

Well, like the Big1T1en, the Big East was 1-2 in bowls (would have been
0-3 if Colorado had a kicker!).  

> where it is just a concept in the Big Ten+1.  PSU will be in the Rose Bowl
> inside of two years, but who cares?  Scrap the Rose Bowl concept, let #1 and
> #2 play each season, and the fans will be happy!

Scrap the Coalition concept, take the game back from the media!                

Looking at past history, I don't remember Penn State ever winning more than 
8 games when they enter a season with a new QB.  Also, PSU's last two
5-loss seasons came during Bush's elections years - JoePa is a big Republican
supporter and in both cases admits the team's problems were with coaching.
Hmmm, maybe Joe could take a year off during election years.

John L
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: harbison@dbsun.uucp (harbison)
Subject: Re: Alabama
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:17:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.151044.22082@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:
> Awesome! What a great team! What speed! What talent! What coaching!
> Guess they're doing something down there besides chewing on Dogwood
> twigs and catching mudcats on a string tied to their big toe.

Of course!  Them mint juleps ain't gonna mix themselves, and somebody has
to baste the ribs, brew the iced tea, and chop wood for the barbeque!  :-)

And for all you homesick net.bama.people, that number for Dreamland-To-Go
is 1-800-752-0544.  Nationwide, overnight delivery.  ``Ain't nothing
like `em nowhere''.  ``When ribs are all you serve, they have to be
this good.''  :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
Subject: Re: Wake Forest Wins!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:42:29 GMT

Hey you guys deserved that win over the Ducks.  This Virginia
fan knew your team was for real when you made the second half
comeback against us, and then went on to win all of your
remaining games but one.  Some people here at UVa were really
pissed that the Deacs got a bowl bid and we didn't.  Well, let
me instill you with some wise words from a Wahoo fanatic.  At
the end of the season, your team would have kicked the shit out
of Virginia, and don't let anyone tell you different.
Congratulations on a superb season down there, and hats off to
Bill Dooley for his mastery in the ACC.  Ah now it is time for
the season where the letters ACC strike fear in the hearts of
most humans and a few unknown entities......Basketball!!!!!!

Bill
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