Newsgroups: rec.humor,soc.culture.polish,alt.censorship
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Polack joke
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:50:32 GMT
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In article <1992Aug21.151703.11576@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.042107.2790@athena.mit.edu> sybok@athena.mit.edu (The Rifleman) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug18.183738.17605@tin.monsanto.com> bcschu@skws02.monsanto.com (Brett Schultz) writes:
>>>>It was just a joke.  I really don't think that Polish have any less brain power
>>>>than anyone else.

>>>>Brett

>>>Brett, your statements are very offensive to me - wheather you think
>>>this is a joke or not you are just simply spreading hatred and
>>>insults. As a community of intellectual's this cannot be tolerated
>>>on the network

Well, "Rifleman", you may want this to be a community of
intellectuals, but guess what, it's not.  And if a bunch of
"intellectuals" find the net a bit too earthy for their taste then
they can go and set up their own little net or do whatever else they
want to do together.

>>>keep it to yourself. ALSO THE SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR 
>>>SHOULD SEE TO THIS. 

Please read news.announce.newusers - unlike not posting ethnic jokes,
reading news.announce.newusers is expected from people you read and
post and Usenet (especially posters.)  There is no "THE SYSTEM
ADMINISTRATOR" and 95% of system administrators are smart enough to
tell whiners where to stick it.

>>Offensive ideas are protected by the first amendment.  Haven't you heard,
>>"Although I do not agree with what you say, I'll fight to the death for
>>your right to say it"?  And, no, I don't "approve" of this, but I must
>>disapprove of any effort to "ban" it.

>First of all who are you ?

>Secondly is this the great Democracy pitch, the good old first ammandment?
>The only thing is that people allover the world subscribe to this group,
>not everyone is American and for that matter does not give a shit about
>YOUR FIRST AMMENDMENT. This is an international community, and I don't
>want some infintile (BRETT who ever you are) to spread such sarcastic
>and insulting jokes, THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR MUST BE DEALT WITH, or tell
>him to mover over to the German group, Itallian group - whatever as
>long as he stops bashing Polish culture.

Well that's nice, Mario, but talk is cheap.  We're posting on our
computers here in the US.  Short of cutting yourselves off from our
network what are you going to do about it?  In short, anyone in the
international community who doesn't give a shit about the first
amendment is SOL if they want to be on our net.  So stick it where it hurts.
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From: ngsw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Ng Soon Wei)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:20:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Need Dan Quayle jokes...
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server