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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:14:55 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (62)
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              5 Oct 1992 16:27:00 JST from
              <TANAKA%JPNSUT20.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>

Well, I, too, have said nothing gleanable this week.  Good.  Maybe.
Of course since half the gleanings didn't make any sense to me, it may
be because there are still over 300 unread words-l msgs in my unread
notebook.  Maybe by the end of today they will be gone....or not....

greetings to all....we survived yet another conference, this one on
campus, and thus crazier than the out of town ones....


dan (and gail)
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:53:42 -0400
From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Test your newbieness!!
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              "tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU" at Sep 29, 92 6:16 pm

>
> Somewhere in the recesses of a rather breathless letter full of quite
> a few digressionary remarks, Agnes says:
>
> >Tell me, Tush (if latter apellation is not too cheeky
>
> Now what, I wonder, is a cheeky appellation if "tush" isn't?
>
> tushar
>
> PS Obviously this kind of letter requires a more considered response.
						   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>    I will post one when I get time again.
       ~~~~~~~~~

	Ohoh.
		Sounds scary.

			Menacing, even.

			       EEk.~~~~~~~~~
			       		~~~~~~~~~~
					      ~~~~~~~~~
			       		Shiver me timbers.

				       		The suspense is killing me.

						(I am not being
						sarcastic, either...)



How can I get back to work like this???
A.
who *will* now brace and steel herself and dive back into analyzing the
tea-leaves of Eastern-European politics...
- child's play, I fear, compared to what Tush(!) is about to dish out to me...
(who said he wasn't the scariest of them all?)
From: kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA ((Agnes Kruchio))
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              "LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU" at Oct 6, 92 2:55 pm

Carolyn -

Er - Is it safe to come out now? Are the loonies gone?
Gads, I have HEARD about such people, but to see them actually in action...
(talking about the VMI cadets, but you might have missed most of the
loony stuff if you had set nomail...)

Anyways - Thanks for you illuminating post -
TNKS for making the effort..
>
> Agnes,
>
> Now, for my third attempt.
>
> >I guess I thought you were one of the many NZlanders in Australia..
>
> Aah! So you know the problems we have with KIWIS.... Karen obviously doesn't
> otherwise she would have known why I chose the term 'expatriot' rather than
> 'expatriated'.... Dan's response was closer to the mark. :-)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 maybe "xpatriate"?

> >there are lots of things I don't know about Autralia
>
> I hope that's a typo and not a reference to the 'selfish country'.

No but what's the meaning? (Synapses ceasing up - sleep is
evading me again...)


>
> "Sheila" as a reference to the women in general, I've not heard since the
> early 50's except in movies and on TV soaps.

Really? Hmmmmm....two separate Australians (both male) told me otherwise within
the last ten (??) years...I guess they were 'rooing' me ...(pulling my
leg to be as long as a roo's) in their own way...:-))
[..]>

> Not in any academic area I've been in in the last 15 years.

What were these...(just curious, but hoping you were in many ..)

>
> Yep... and I never finish my sentences with "you know?", you know?
>
> Carolyn

More questions: what is the situation with the koalas? Has their
situation stabilized or is it still going downhill? (I KNOW they's not
cuddly, even if cute at a distance, but then neither are many endangered
critters)...<eh ?>

Agnes
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:02:02 CDT
From:         "(Frank Peters)" <fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: He's baaaaack!
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In article <WORDS-L%92100423563402@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Dan Lester
 <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU> says:
: On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:15:00 CDT Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815) said:
: >If anyone hasn't yet heard, Ross Perot is back in the race.
: >
:   Big fucking surprise....
:
: now the REAL question......does anybody care?

George and Bill and H. Ross, to name three.

I've heard it said (I'm not a big political trend follower) that George
can't win unless he takes both Florida and Texas...and those are two
states where H. Ross' popularity is highest.

I've also heard it said that a lot of Bill's support comes from "anyone
but bush" people who might tend to become "anyone but the parties we
already have" people and migrate to H. Ross.

On balance, I'd guess that H Ross is likely to hurt Bush a bit more than
Bill.  And with Bush already behind...
--
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:03:28 -0700
From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject:      Re: The current campaign season

Thank you, Alec, for that nonpartisan and dispassionate summary...
Perhaps I should rephrase the question.  Did Governor Clinton have any job
prior to graduating from law school?  Paper route?  Potwhalloping?  Mowing
lawns?  Anything?  Anywhere?
(Hey, I got nothing against rich kids - always wanted to be one myself...)

JMW
From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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Date: 6 Oct 92 16:27:24 GMT
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harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) writes:
> Oh please. You sound like a publicity flack for TCI...
> Those guys have been raping us and it's
> time the government offered us a little protection.

Do we expect the government protect us from overpriced breakfast
cereal or automobiles?

No.  We allow competition and choose the products that best serve
our needs.

Most municipalities grant cable monopolies.  It isn't a surprise
that when competition is disallowed the product is inferior.

This bill takes us in the wrong direction.  Instead of choosing
what you find to be the best from several competing services you
will now get whatever some bureaucrat decided was good enough.

--karsten

(I'm sure government will do as fine a job making cable service
 cheap, quick and reliable as it has with the Post Office)
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:43:53 -0400
From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: AND THE WINNER IS!!!!
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              Sep 29, 92 5:14 pm

> --ggs (GSH.... *NOT* any more and never again....  this is too much
>        like grading papers...)
		^^^^^^^^^^^

I was wondering if you were a glutton for punishmnet - don't you have a
*whole year* of this coming up?...
Agnes
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:49:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: stupidity
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> Look, instead of squabbling, Gilbert, why don't you just ignore it and
> post the results? I can't wait to see whether I made it in any category.
>
> This is going to be one hell of a thread to hog bandwidth mindlessly on.
>
> tushar

I'm not saying another <word> until midnight.
--ggs (tick-a-lock....)
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Greetings,

Need I ask Who voted for gt as "nicest to newbies?"

Marty
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From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
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	I've heard it was an Israeli freight plane that developed trouble soon after

El Al, according to the latest newsflash.

G
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From:         Marty Rosen <crosen@ANDY.BGSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: I may have been sleeping
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Greetings,

Steve writes:

>> This from a fellow who last week on his show argued that blacks have
>> prospered under the Reagan and Bush administrations.

>Marty, before you make a comment like that, check your facts carefully.
>What information do you have to refute Buckley's claim?

>Steve Karlson

It's not clear to me what factual statement is being challenged here.  I
did, in fact, see and hear Buckley make the above claim.  That's a fact.
Why should I check it?

It's always amusing to be asked for evidence of any assertion by Steve,
since his modus operandi in discussions of politics and economics is to
invoke an almost mystical belief in unsubstantiated notions of how
things would work if only we lived in a free market utopia.  He usually
attempts to refute any evidence that challenges his philosophical biases
by aserting that the most commonly used economic data are irrelevant and
misleading.  Nevertheless, here we go again.  If the assertion that blacks
had prospered under Reagan and Bush has validity, it ought to be possible
to demonstrate that blacks have made economic progress relative to rest of
the population between 1980 and the present.

Let's look at a single statistic from the Statistical Abstract ofthe
United States, 1991 edition: Median family income in constant dollars by
race of householder

Year     All families      White      Black
1980     31,637            32,962     19,073
1989     34,213            35,975     20,209

These are expressed in 1989 dollars and 1989 was the most recent year
listed in this edition.

Marty Rosen
Original-From: mhwpa!ktw (Kenneth T Wolman +1 201 564 2866)
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:32:00 EDT
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Blanket apology
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Folks, this is me without the parable.

I just came off a two hour panic attack: yeah, the kind with the cold
sweats and formless Dread.  It's not fun.  I am extremely upset with
myself for having taken some rather untasty bait, and having set
myself up in a role here that I am not equipped by temperament to
assume.

I have no interest in engaging in a List War with anyone.  To repeat:
I don't necessarily like a lot of what is going on here, but I would
rather ignore it, and some of the protagonists, than appoint myself
the sheriff of the Blue Moon Saloon.

Take this as an apology then.

Ken
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:01:06 +0100
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (62)
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              05 Oct 92 16:27:00 +0200. <9210050730.AA05824@sics.se>

  >But, what you meant was simply: "Excuse my meagre Japanese, but...",
  >right?

  Well no, I was actually intending to put forward with humorous
bluntness a steely determination to write in nothing but peculiar
Japanese. But clearly such nuances are still beyond me. Nihonjin mo
wakaru nihongo o kaku no wa mada watashi ni wa muzukashisugiru deshoo...
Nihongo no benkyoo ni mi o motto irenakereba narimasen yo!

 >Unketbarrskogsdunkel (Torkel)

  This is a little known place in Sweden that I made up. What the name
conveys, to one who knows the language, is that this is one of the
less than lovely spots deep in the spruce and pine woods that cover
a large part of Sweden, where the ground is soggy and hardly a ray
of sunshine penetrates.
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mama Judith
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Explaineth tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU

> The name "The Ronin" is NOT correlated with tarring! Here's proof!

> >     I have written her, but not made that request.  While I beleive
> >her return will improve the list, I want her to return because the
> >list will improve her.  For her to return for any other reason would
> >be improper.
> >
> >Bob

     I am confused, oh List Wit.  If this is a reference to Ronin (R)
Original Tar Sentences, when I filed my trademark request I used
product developed prior to roninization to substantiate my claim.  How
is it you are just now uncovering 'proof'?

Bob
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: whoa
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On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:00:06 -0500 Anne Burton Harwell said:
>> (Anyone else here except me ever been court-martialled?)
>
>YOU WHAT!!?!?!?!?!?!?

doesn't surprise me a bit....and that's not a slam....but a compliment,
or at least is depending on circumstances....which I hope we will hear
bout....

   diddling the COs wife?  diddling the COs son?   diddling the CO?
telling the CO to fuck off?   something else even more exotic?

dan, as always, curious but not yellow, and not blue today
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From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: clothes
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> Now that we know how everyone puts/takes garbage,
>
> Do you    1. Bring in the clothes
>           2. Go pick the clothes
>
> This for those who resort to fresh air drying opposed
> to the tumble machine.

Since my dryer is outside, does it count as the same?  (I don't mean it's
sitting in the middle of the yard -- it's in a storage room attached to
carport, but I have to go outside of the house into the carport and then
into the room to get the clothes.)  I go get the clothes and bring them
in.  If they were on a line, I would also go get them and bring them in.
I probably wouldn't add both parts in a conversation.  I would either
say that I was going to get the clothes or going to bring in the clothes.
I would definitely not say I was going to "pick the clothes" unless I
was picking out what to wear on a particular occasion by going out and
picking out certain clothes from the dryer or line.

And speaking of picking clothes, I've gotta decide in the next 45 minutes
or so how cold it's really gonna be tonight.  It's unseasonably cool here,
which means that I could probably wear a sweater to the football game, but
it won't be cool enough for a sweater at first.  And I never wear cardigan
sweaters.  Somebody decide right away and let me know.  Then you can all
look for me on ESPN in whatever you decide I should wear.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:25:50 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cable Bill
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On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 CROSEN@bgsuopie.bitnet wrote:

> as the case may be).  It's interesting to me that the principal author
> of the cable bill was Danforth of Missouri, a Republican Senator (those with

Another moment of Infamy was Danforth's Motorcycle Act of 1986 where he
attempted to place horsepower caps on specific sizes of motorcycle
engines. What an ignoramus. Oh, well, if chimpanzees can type
Shakespeare...


-abh
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Twain on Reader's Digest

>>                            I guess if you can't take pride in your own
>>accomplishments, it certainly is satisfying to point out others foibles.
>>
>>Chris
>
>Very very well spoken, Chris. Truly profound. And it sounds so much like
>Reader's Digest, too, which is cool.
>
>tushar


The non Reader's Digest form is Twain's:

     Let us be thankful for the fools, but for whom the rest of us
     could not succeed.

-K

-Mka

PS:  I am not sure that a flame war under the header "Mama Judith" is the
most efficacious way of coaxing her back.
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: A new game.
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>I'll post the list of Voters tomorrow. Voteds, start thinking about who
>voted you "Most Irritating".

I'd expect this type of cynical, transparent ploy from one so callow as Tushar,
who is obviously eaten up with curiosity as to who on the list believes him
most irritating. Well, Tush, I didn't originally vote for you in that category,
but I would now. BTW, lots of little two-bit political demagogues have tried
similar tactics to learn who voted for their enemies.

And no, though your cleverly crafted missives have been persuasive, I still
know you were Santa, Tushar!

-abh
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Test your newbieness!!
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              29 Sep 1992 20:20:11 -0700 from
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On Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:20:11 -0700 JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS said:
>Gawd, it's been only six days, and I already hate Internet...
>
>JMW
>
>(Yea, it's a ONE-LINE message!  What about it?)

Looks like FIVE lines to me.....but whatcha mean about Internet?
Above says you're subbed from a bitnet account....and that's the way
its always been....so what is your internet address?

dan
From: TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain)
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Date: 6 Oct 92 16:01:00 GMT
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>>	Pair (8) with (3,5), (6) with (2,4), giving each half of each pair
>>	opposite signs.  That leaves 0,1,7,9; clearly (0 + 9 - 1 - 7) = 1.

>Gauss is alive and well in Pittsburgh?

Thanks for the compliment, Steve.  I did think in such terms when
conceptualizing my approach, but it certainly lacks the <elegance> of
Gauss's apochryphal(?) summation of the integers from 1 to 100.

	sum(1 to N) = (N/2)*(N+1)

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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Shell Suits
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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992, (Anne Haycock) wrote:

> //anne, who wears a claddagh ring, but now pointing away from the heart//

Is that like being a Scorpio or something?

-abh
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Subject:      Re: Induction (was Mensa)
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On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:18:48 +0100 <torkel@SICS.SE> said:
>Swedish: "The Adventurer Thomas Crown". But the English title escapes me.

The Thomas Crown Affair.

dan
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Travel to Las Vegas
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              5 Oct 1992 10:13:40 -0600 from <harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:13:40 -0600 <harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU> said:
>If I were to go to Las Vegas in December, would there be any Wordslers who
>might want to join me there? Warning: the answers I receive may influence
>whether I attend a major computer con.
>
      well, dan and gail will PROBABLY be in Boise then, but have talked
about going somewhere south...d.epending on state of the bank accts by then..

interesting.....maybe....

dan
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Subject:      Re: Model Railroad
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              "WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu" at Oct 6, 92 4:45 pm

> > length, drilling and tapping, inserting small pins with tweezers,
> > airbrushing and decaling, when all I had to do was send Neiman some
> > money and open up the box :-) :-)
>
> Yep.  All you have to do is send $100,000.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I wondered when you posted that message if that was the one you meant.  Can't
believe they put it in the catalog.  Yeah, it is cute.
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              5 Oct 1992 16:30:51 EDT from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

I haven't heard it; 'goetta' hasn't reached the Akron area.

Evelyn
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Posted on 6 Oct 1992 at 10:39:09 by Anne Burton Harwell
>On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 CROSEN@bgsuopie.bitnet wrote:
>> as the case may be).  It's interesting to me that the principal author
>> of the cable bill was Danforth of Missouri, a Republican Senator (those with
>Another moment of Infamy was Danforth's Motorcycle Act of 1986 where he
>attempted to place horsepower caps on specific sizes of motorcycle
>engines. What an ignoramus. Oh, well, if chimpanzees can type
>Shakespeare...

Ohhh, pleeeeeeease don't remind me!!  He and Gephardt are also infamous
Japan-bashers.  I hate living in this state!!!!  It's filled w/ idiots!!!
A former student came by yesterday.  She's been working in the state
treasurer's office, but will lose her job in January.  She was talking
about working for Danforth.  I hope she finds another job!

Karen