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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: that's IT!
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:28:23 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd -- Now Appearing Nightly With DON HO


jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!) writes:

Jennifer!> Okay, I know this isn't the place for this, but I've got
Jennifer!> something to say.  I'm absolutely disgusted with the
Jennifer!> amounts of email I have been receiving from guys saying
Jennifer!> "hey baby do me fuck fuck do me do me fuck do me."

Well, when they write you messages like this, they automatically give
you license to post their email in its entirety to this and any other
newsgroup you care to display it on -- particularly ones where you
seem them posting.  I'm sure they'll think it's loads of fun.

If that gets boring, you might try getting the name of their boss or
sysadmin and sending a letter with a hardcopy of the email attached!
Sure to bring smiles to everyone involved.

Fight back, Jennifer.  It's the only way for assholes like them to learn
some manners.


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From: jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: HEY JENNIFER WHERE ARE YOU
Keywords: JENNIFER
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:11:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

9204474@cuslm.ca (MORIN PETER JOHN) writes:

>Hey Jennifer,Just was wondering if you were going to reply.
>Peter Morin
>Department of Education,University of Moncton,Edmunstun NB,Canada

I tried. Perhaps you could give me an address that actually works.
-Jennifer
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:41:15 EST
From: <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> (Long Phamdo)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: READ THIS JENNY
Distribution: na
 <92Nov18.165910.12324@acs.ucalgary.ca>

Victor boy writes:

>That's a start. *Anything* about cop-killing isn't kosher, okay?

 Does that mean your not a big Ice-T fan (Him, House of Pain, and Public
 Enemy are performing in PSU this Sunday....I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!)

>Such as not using offensive or obnoxious or abusive language, okay?
>DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

 Oh all right, I forgot your the sensitive type.  I promise not to say
 "FUCK" around you anymore.

>I can tell you're a REAL popular guy, Long-Man.

 Of course, especially with the women.  How do you think I got the nickname
 "da Long-Man" <BIG GRIN>

>How'd you like it if I tracked down your bank history, as well?

 Sure, go ahead.  While your at it can you tell me how much money is
 in my savings account......your such a nice guy Victor.

>Right.  Now, how would *you* like it if I posted you name and....
>address to every single one to every one....

 No No, you done too much for me already,  I'll save you the trouble:

              Long Phamdo (yes, that's my real name)
              61 Atherton Hall (PSU)
              University Park, PA  16802

 I never did get a lot of mail.....

>Hey everyone, you want to know who "da Long-man" really is,

 [He slowly pulls off his mask]

 Oh no!! It's it's.....Victors evilwinin brother.

>Victor
>(who has access to quite a few handy Net resources)

 and doen't mind boasting about them.

                Victor for Presdient!!!!!!!!!!!

=====-----da Long-Man---------->  Bye Bye


p.s.  Victor, by chance were genitals also removed.  This would
      definitely explain your attitude towards sexual harrassment.
From: jennifer@netcom.com (Jennifer!)
Subject: thanks and kudos
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:01:09 GMT


I received too many messages to reply to all of you individually, so I'd like 
to take this opportunity to thank Ram, Trent, Stace, Dave, Michael W., Michael
O., Tim, Russ, Mike, Victor, Ruman, and especially Craig for all your 
wonderful letters. I know not all men are like Mr. Asshole. I didn't mean
to imply they were. It's just a shame things like this have to happen.

Again, thanks for the support guys. :)
-Jennifer
From: egilmour@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Calendars and Brains
Date: 22 Nov 92 12:46:41 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

dean@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Dean Economou) writes:

>Ell probably speaks French since was was married to a Frenchman and lived
>with him in France for quite a few years in her early twenties.

Does that mean she has got brains because she speaks French?  That is
like saying that Francaphones are smarter than Anglophones because
they speak French.

Most models out there are not from America but are from Europe and
therefore probably speak at least two languages like most people from
Europe - but that doesn't mean they are more intelligent those with
only one language.

>I have heard second-hand from friends of my air-flight-attendant sister
>that Elle in person is quite atractive to look at, but bllody rude, and
>not very bright at all.  Not much evidence, but better than nothing.

I was watching a Canadian show called Fashion T.V. and they interviewed
a few models about what they thought of the clothes in one of the shows
they were doing, and truthfully, these models were barely monosyllabic.  But
hey, I don't know, just because they couldn't speak in complete
sentences doesn't mean they are stupid - a person who speaks in
complete sentences can still be an idiot.  In fact, they interviewed
a photographer or some such person about the model Karen Mulder and what
he thought of her.  He said she was exactly like Betty Grable! 
Talk about an idiot, she is hardly like Betty Grable.

I've noticed, and it kind of irks me, that practically every new model today 
is labelled another Marilyn, or another Bardot, or another Loren etc. - 
why can't they just be original?  That would make them much more interesting.
There is nothing more boring and pathetic in the fashion industry than a model 
whose claim to fame is because she looks like one of the icons of beauty 
from the past.  I suppose Marilyn et al are paragons of beauty, 
but must every new model be compared to them just to prove their worth?  
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan)
Subject: Re: Elle gets part in Arnold's new movie
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:40:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.163235.206@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:
>Hey, I see in the paper this morning that Elle beat out Cindy for
>a part in Arnold Schwarzenegger's new movie (can't remember the
>name -- The Last something-or-other or something like that). He
>gave them both private auditions without the other knowing and
>Elle got the part. Anyone know any more about it?
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Nigel Stanger,                  Internet: stanger@otago.ac.nz
>University of Otago,            Phone: +64 3 479-8179
>Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.           Fax:   +64 3 479-8311
>"ResEdit development is an oxymoron." -- Jon Pugh

Yeah,  Cindy spat and Elle swallowed.

Just kidding.

-brett
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: good@pixar.com (Mein Fuehrer!  I can walk!)
Subject: Spooky chick
Originator: good@hogey
Organization: Pixar - Pt. Richmond, CA USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:30:54 GMT


	Can anybody confirm for me that I saw Michaela Bercu's name in
the credits of "Bram Stoker's Dracula" as one of the three vampire women?

	What an... interesting way to move from modeling into an acting
career.

		--Craig
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Alex Stevens)
Subject: Re: Height requirements
Keywords: height
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:34:23 GMT

In article <92Nov17.171959.11430@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
>I wish I had the books from Ford, Wilhelmina, and Zoli; then I'd
>have the stats for Christy Turlington, Yasmeen Ghauri, Claudia
>Schiffer, Helena Christiansen, Beverly Peele, etc.
^^^^^^^^^
>
>Victor 8^)
>(who knows what he wants for a Christmas present already!)


	I recently went to a celebrity auction, and got an
autographed Claudia Schiffer "promo card" or something, that shows several
past magazine covers.  Anyway, it lists all her stats, so if anyone is 
interested, leave a follow-up, and I will.   NO MAIL please.

Alex
stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu


Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie)
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson -- Faint Praise 
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:18:42 GMT

tessier@bnr.ca (Daniel Tessier) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.175422.3033@dragon.acadiau.ca>, 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie) writes:
>|> Craig.Humphrey@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Craig Andrew Humphrey) writes:
>|> 
>|> >pictures for their PS/2 machines, to run as a backdrop under windoze.  Now the
>|> 							      ^^^^^^^
>|> Learn to spell WINDOWS!!  You know, like the thing you look out to see
>|> outside while you're indoors!  
>Actually, I kinda like the "windoze" spelling myself... Maybe the
>humor of it is wasted on you? windoze... doze... as in "doze off"...
>sleep... Get it?
>|> 
>|> >girls who work there have their own PS/2 running windoze 
>|> 						  ^^^^^^^
>|> 
>|> Once again, learn to spell...and get a life!
>Oh well, maybe you could get a sense of humor?

Oh, terribly sorry (not)...I figured it was unintentional froma potential
IBM user.
-Doc

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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:48:00 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib) writes:

}In article <johnr.721842082@ee.uts.EDU.AU> johnr@ee.uts.edu.au (John Reekie) writes:
}>
}>I am curious to know why you would attach such importance to the
}>presence of an Elle calendar on a man's wall that you
}>would decide not to date him on that fact alone. Is this such
}>a telling indicator about every other aspect of his personality?
}>
}>I think not...

}You're correct, it's not a telling indicator about every aspect of his
}personality but it tells you enough to know not to date him.

This is great.  The same people who don't like being judged based solely
on their looks are now judging someone based solely on what is hanging
on his wall.  Yeah, yeah, I know; what *you're* doing is difference
because you're claiming to judge "personality" while those evil men
are merely judging physical attributes.  Crap by any other name still
stinks.

--James Preston
From: wagner@bodie.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Sexual harassment on the net??
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:54:42 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

>
>>Lets say that I met Jennifer in the lobby of a building every morning as we
>>went about our business. Lets say that I found her attractive and wanted to
>>make my presence known, so every day I would walk up to her and say "good
>>morning, how are you today", and every morning I would be ignored. Now, 
>>unknown to me the daily greeting is very annoying to Jennifer and after
>>a period she comes to feel that I am harrasing her. Well then I guess by your
>>definition it's true and I should be flogged in public.

Does anyone besides me feel that an awful lot of this problem
could be avoided by polite behaviour?  Isn't an awful lot of
this problem at least partly the result of addressing someone
in a familiar manner when there is no reason to do so?  Addressing
someone in a familiar manner when I am not in fact familiar with
them is *rude*.   By "polite",  I don't mean how you put
your salad fork on your plate, or how to address thank-you notes
after a wake.  I mean a basic courtesy.  If you say, "Good morning,
how are you today?", to someone and he/she ignores you, then they
are probably indicating a lack of interest in talking with you.
I don't believe that anyone is compelled to talk with me.  

It's rude to speak to a woman I don't know in a public situation.  
If she indicates that she wants to speak with me, then I am of 
course free to do so.  But walking up to a waman I don't know and 
speaking to her in the kind of situation seems *very* rude.

In fact, I' I'm sure that in such a situation, the person wishing 
*not* to be so hailed each morning is sending a lot of signals to that
effect, even prior to any verbal interchange.  A lack of a response
is certainly a powerful indication that the interchange is in fact
annoying to Jennifer, so "unknown to me" is weak.


The comment about the poor unfortunate soul who commented on a
woman's dress shoould be passed through a Wagner Test (decribed
in a previous article).  Sometimes these kinds of comments are
sexually harassing, sometimes they are not.  I have certainly
seen a situation where this kind of commnet has been used to
put a woman "in her place" as some *thing* to be looked at rather
than someone to be listened to.  I also have women friends who
like it when I notice that they're wearing a new dress, or a 
dress I think is real neat.  But notice something, these women
were friends of mine before I started sharing such observations.
Walking up to woman I am not a friend of and commenting "nice 
dress" is just plain rude.

Mike


Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: corsa@shell.portal.com (Eric Richard Elliott)
Subject: Re: Brains of Models
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:42:28 GMT

crutiras@bu.edu (Chokdee Robert) writes:

>I agree with you completely.  Models receive this stereotype because of what
>they do for a living (be it full time or part time; and because people are 
>envious).
>  My girlfriend, who is in the process of building her modeling career, 
>lived in Europe for the past ten years prior to starting secondary school in 
>America.  She came to this country with hardly any experience in the English 
>language.  In just two years, she has climbed to the top of her class with a 
>4.8 GPA (5.0 scale).

>Just two weeks ago, she had taken part in a giant two day fashion show, and
>on Monday she was back to school studying as usual.  I have great respect and
>admiration for how she can balance her growing career and her schooling.
>Most models are forced to take part in an adult world; it seems that besides 
>just sheer intellect, people tend to forget how mature most models are for 
>their young age.  I have witnessed this first-hand.

>"Models are dumb," can't see where someone can get away with saying that.

>Sincerely,

>C. Robert Rutirasiri



>Correction: I believe Ms. Crawford attended Northern Illinois University not
>Northwestern University.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Nope...it was indeed Northwestern University...just re-watched one of my
taped interviews with her.  Chemical Engineering.


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From: aml4@po.cwru.edu (Adam M. Lambert)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Elle & Swimming?!?!?!?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:37:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62466.student.cwru.edu
Keywords: elle, swimming,


Elle was on Jay Leno a week or two ago, and she mentioned swimming as her
favorite sport.  A few people around here have said that she was swimming 
competitively, maybe in college or something... does anyone by chance know 
anything about this??

Thanks..
-Adam
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From: mscb+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Asher Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Kathy Ireland
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:20:25 GMT
Organization: Freshman, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>	Cindy, Cindy, Cindy, that's all I ever hear!!!!!!! I mean, c'mon she 
>married DICK GERE for heaven's sake, yet everyone worships her as if >she were
>a goddess. She may have been something special to start with, but heck
so >many
>models are copying her look these days that I can't ever look at a mag >cover 
>without having to read it and see if it really is her. Of course you see a lot
>of other references to Elle MacPherson too, but what I want to know is....

>Does anyone out there appreciate Kathy Ireland as much as I do?

Don't you know that Kathy is married?
From: nml@csa.bu.edu (Newton Loui)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Sexual harassment on the net??
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:39:30 GMT
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: jsp@uts.amdahl.com's message of 17 Nov 92 18:43:30 GMT

In article <c1=I03z3bbsI00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:

   jim@neb (Jim Hood) writes:

   }>From LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu Mon Nov 16 12:57:25 1992
   }>Hey Jen, I have the same problem wit da women on this net..heh heh heh.  Hey
   }>since were both netsexobjects...will you do me baby fuck me.....just kidding ag
   }>ain.
   }You know...  Joke or not, legally that could be considered sexual harassment.
[stuff deleted about possible repercussions]

   And what a sad and sorry comment that is on the completely irrational
   and hysterical atmosphere that has come to surround "sexual harrassment".

   Not to even mention how this undercuts the seriousness of true sexual
   harrassment.  Jokingly saying "fuck me" is in the exact same category
   as fondling or other unwanted physical contact.  How many people think
   that this will make people take the former more seriously?  How many
   think that it will make people take the latter more lightly?

   --James Preston

"Completely irrational and hysterical"?  Jennifer had just posted that
she had received a lot of e-mail harassing her, then
<LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> posts that sort of message.  If Jennifer
believes that she is being harassed, then that treatment *is*
harassment.  <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> certainly didn't do it to cheer
her up nor to give her support.

How would you define *false* sexual harassment?

Clarify your former and latter points.  This doesn't undercut the
seriousness of sexual harassment of any form for me.  I will also
*NOT* take lightly "jokingly" sexually harassing anyone.

Why is it that people love to pick on other people, and then when
confronted by the people defending themselves, cry out "But I was only
joking"?

nml
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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Subject: Re: Kathy Ireland
Originator: jawiles@c00740-400wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN WILES)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:01:59 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.124844.1@acad.drake.edu>, tdl001@acad.drake.edu writes:
|> 
|> 	Cindy, Cindy, Cindy, that's all I ever hear!!!!!!! I mean, c'mon she 
|> married DICK GERE for heaven's sake, yet everyone worships her as if she were
|> a goddess. She may have been something special to start with, but heck so many
|> models are copying her look these days that I can't ever look at a mag cover 
|> without having to read it and see if it really is her. Of course you see a lot
|> of other references to Elle MacPherson too, but what I want to know is....
|> 
|> Does anyone out there appreciate Kathy Ireland as much as I do?

YES!   Kathy is the *best* supermodel!  So wholesome, so sweet, so drop-dead 
gorgeous with long legs!  YUM YUM!  

btw, I know about all the gifs over at FUNIC, but any other FTP stuff about 
other Kathy Ireland stuff is appreciated!

** jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu **
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: Re: Kathy Ireland
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:41:53 GMT

>>YES!   Kathy is the *best* supermodel!  So wholesome, so sweet, so drop-dead 
>>gorgeous with long legs!  YUM YUM!  
>
>        Appreciate Kathy Ireland, hell the world ends the day
>    she's gone (I'm not sure if a goddess can die though).  Women
>    can get no better than she is, we have no where left to go from
>    her except down.

My sentiments exactly.  Now if we could just clone her we could preserve
that perfect goddess body of hers.... forever.  A goddess deserves to
eternal beauty...

- Hacker
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From: mjo@slee01.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: alt.supermodels
Subject: Re: Height requirements
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:44:49 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Distribution: na
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com


I'd be interested in Claudia's "stats", as you put it.


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