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From: ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward)
Subject: Re: Cycle World: the Pot Calling the Kettl
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:53:03 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>In article 21006@acs.ucalgary.ca, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>>
>>Christ on a jetski, man, 

>I thought he was the ONLY one who wouldn't need one...

I've never been on a jetski, man,

710

>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: adis@adis.msk.su ( )
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Invite energetic dealers to common business 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:04:06 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: KIAE
Reply-To: adis@adis.msk.su

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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:10:39 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 3330@cs.hw.ac.uk, geirs@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geir Solvang) writes:
>But why on earth would anyone *NOT* wear a helmet. 
>If you are not wearing a helemet at all, you
>must really be an complete and utter idiot! In general I consider
>people riding without a helmet not to be a REAL biker.

Many studies and much personal testimony indicates that a primary cause
of motorcycle - automobile accidents result from poor conspicuity of
motorcycles.

So why on Earth would anyone *NOT* wear a neon orange vest with lime
green reflective stripes.  If you are not wearing neon clothing at all,
you must really be a complete and utter idiot!  In general I consider
people riding without reflective stickers not to be a REAL biker.

Makes sense, huh, Geir?

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Silver lining if Clinton gets elected
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:39:21 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

dbooth@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (david booth) writes:
: Conrad Drake get a life and get in touch with political reality.
: Calling the Liberals just to the left of Ghengis Kahn is like calling
: the Labor Party just to the right of The Communist Party. It just
: ain't so.

Charmed, I'm sure.

Ok, so they are to the left of the ANM (:-)).  But they are to the
right of our "economically rational" government.  Which by definition, puts
them to the far right of the American (USoA) understanding of the term
Liberal.

Perhaps, David, I should have included more of the original posting in
so as to make the juxtaposition more obvious.  Coversely, I could just
say "Get a context!".


--
"A carnival of misery so tragically our own,
 Where gathered 'round the ballot box we reap what we have sown"
               "These Festivals" Leunig, 1992

Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604
From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: ZX-11 front brake.
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:45:51 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D

Any advice to improve the front brake performance of a ZX-11?

manolo@taf.fundesco.es
ZX-11
DR-600-S
DoD #1033



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:20:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.112304.10192@aber.ac.uk>, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew
Michael Woodward) writes:
|> 
|> OK folks, so whats the net wisdom (!) here? Do you slide and wear
|> yourself away
|> in a short red stain; or tuck up an roll to avoid the rash, travel
|> further 
|> and end up under an oncoming cage as a hedgehog impersonator?
|> 
|> For uneducated colonial irrigants, hedgehogs are spiny flat animals
|> whose
|> natural habitat is dark roads.
 
Where they get much flatter ?? Ever heard the term "Road Pizza"?
This sounds like one of those trick questions. Tuck and roll =
more ground covered. Increase friction and you slow down faster.
If it was a busy 4 lane interstate I think I'd want to slow down
faster, alot of it has to do with what direction I'm moving in
when I leave the bike and what I would hit. A cement divider
with no shoulder could be embarrassing, a grass divider would
be nicer. However to survive a high speed getoff and then
get run over would not be a good time to buy a lottery ticket.
-- 
##########################################################
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                 and TARGETS !!!
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#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I by my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:46:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> Many studies and much personal testimony indicates that a primary
-> cause of motorcycle - automobile accidents result from poor
-> conspicuity of motorcycles.

 I was rather amused to find out that "poor conspicuity" has also been
a common reason given for wrecks involving marked police cars, fire
engines, and ambulances.  Interestingly, the use of lights and/or siren
didn't appear to make much difference.

 The usual sworn statement of the citizen involved was, of course, "I
didn't SEE him..."


-> So why on Earth would anyone *NOT* wear a neon orange vest with lime
-> green reflective stripes.  If you are not wearing neon clothing at

 This from a guy with a paisley vest?  Don't forget your flashing strobe
light mounted on your helmet, knee and elbow pads, and your fiberglass
pole with the flourescent warning flag.  They won't "see" you anyway,
but you can entertain small children...
From: dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tricks
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:05:38 GMT
Reply-To: dboyd@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

> Chris Malcolm (cam@castle.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
> : Somebody in London (UK) did just this, except it was wire. The biker
> : it caught is in hospital, and is thought unlikely to speak again. The
> : neighbours said there was a lot of local bad feeling against bikers
> : with loud bikes.
> 


Something similiar happened to the young son of a friend I worked with. She'd  
shudder every time she'd see me strut by in my leathers carrying my helmet. By  
the way, he was wearing a helmet and the wire caught him *right* in between the  
helmet and his jacket!! He is a parapalegic, last I spoke to her they had just  
run out the $1 million they had available to them from his insurance. Really  
sad story.

I don't have much patience for immature vigilante fantasies, MR. Smith. 

(I can't help but notice he's from an edu site, Columbia yet.)

Diana

DIANA BOYD	"Walking with the spirit, talking with the spine
EVO Woman	 Mama sing, open up yourself when worlds align."
KLR Woman                                            -C. Whitley
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was:Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20:04:49 GMT

This is really getting silly now...

Nick, the British biker who works for a Canadian company writes:
>Roland Besserer (roland@quadsys.com) wrote:
>: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>: >jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>: >|> roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
>: >|> >Imported into Britain it's about 3400 pounds
>: >|> 
>: >|> Wow, try to back that out of a parking space!
>: >|> 
>: > Back it out you say, me I'd stick an 8 foot flag on its
>: >center stand lever, maybe even add a boom and sail to it.
>: >What a boat that must be.
>: 
>: You guys are a scream.
>
>Listen, you smug yankee dorks!

First of all, I can't be a *Yankee* dork, you imperial dog!

>If you can't tell the difference between pounds avoirdupoi and pounds sterling
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^s
Second, I can spell in the Queen's English better than you can (despite the
silly pronouciation)!

>then how can you tell the difference between gas petrol and gas state?  Eh? Eh?

Third, it's you pompous-arrogant-Brits-who-can't-take-a-joke who are passing
all the gas around here!

Pththththth!

And, since we in the colonies must spell everything out to you stupid gits, 
:-) :-) 8-) :-) ;-) :-) *-) 8-) %-)!!!

(sorry, Roland)

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kdg@world.std.com (Keith D Gregory)
Subject: Re: Riding with Gas
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:28:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.190254.8516@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com 
(David Svoboda) writes:
>
>I have thought of taking along a quart or so of gasoline as an emergency
>fuel when I go on long tours.  What is the net.consensus on what would be the
>best container for that, and where it would be best to put the container.
>The best thought I have is one of those spun aluminum camp fuel bottles,
>strapped somewhere on the back of the motorcycle.  

It'd work. Just keep it out of the sunlight to minimize evaporation. 

I base this belief on the perhaps equally incorrect belief that "white gas"
is ineed gasoline, without the various additives and what not that are used
for engines.

I do wonder, tho' ... what type of bike do you have that would get more than
a few miles on a quart of gas? And if you're so far out in the wilderness
that you ran out of reserve, will a quart of gas really help?


>I carry a three-fuel camp stove when I travel, but usually empty it and let 
>it dry before I strap it on the back.  I wonder if just leaving that full 
>of gas would be safe?  It's pretty sturdy.

Can you fill it and shake it without getting wet?


>Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
>90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit

This certainly isn't going to go far on an extra quart :-)

>84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"

And are you going to take this on tour?


-kdg
Organization: Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:21:36 -0500 
From: Karin Brennan <kb4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Help a beginner
 

Here's the deal:
I am interested in buying a motorcycle (used), but I don't what to ask,
lookfor, or avoid.  If you have any suggestions for a beginner It would
be greatly appreciated.  Send mail to me.

Thanks!
Karin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alex@lyra.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews)
Subject: Re: Obituary
Originator: alex@lyra
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:26:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.200358.269@cs.ucla.edu> noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
>
>	the kawi is survived by a grieving, sentimental owner and an
>	overjoyed owner's boyfriend, who proposed on-the-spot burial.

Coincidence?  I think not.  I call for an autopsy, followed by a full
criminal investigation, if necessary.  Should charges be filed, I will
spearhead the movement to run the dog down and bring him to justice
(mob or otherwise).  Start by checking his pockets for the oil drain plug.

-- 
-Alex Matthews (alex@lyra.colorado.edu, matthews@jila.bitnet)
DoD #0010   
"Occasionally we may try to reroute you briefly onto a particularly
beautiful side road...." - Numerical Recipes
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Suicidal cager
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:48:41 GMT

In article <2936@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
>if one of my family members was killed by a person like this, the last
>thing I would want to have to endure is seeing his face around me for 
>the rest of my life. the temptation to exact vengance would be to great
>anyway.

Well, maybe.  If, say, some brain-dead drunk cager caused me to lose
a leg or arm, I think part of any plea-bargaining that'd I'd agree to
would include the condition that they stop by once a month, to wash
the stump, or something, to force them to confront their responsibility.
I sure as hell wouldn't let them forget what they'd done to me.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimiii@nimbus.com (Jim Warford)
Subject: Re: per mile stats (was Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX)
Reply-To: jimiii@nimbus.com (Jim Warford)
Organization: Nimbus Technology, Santa Clara, CA USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:16:34 GMT

In article <2928@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
>]]"Say on a per mile basis someone is five times (I don't know the actual
>]]figure and would appreciate it if anyone knows) as likely to be killed
>]]on a motorcycle than in a car.  
>
>what is the fatality per mile figure for both mc's and cars?
>

Don't know about cars or mc's breakdown but in the USA it is 1.3 fatalities
per 60 million miles driven.  In Latvia it is 25 per 60 million miles.  Latvia
is the most dangerous place to drive and the US is tied with the Netherlands
as the safest.

-- 
Faster Horses
Younger Women
Older Whiskey
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:52:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.020854.18236@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
|
|Helmets are a trade-off.  If you understand their drawbacks and
|keep them in mind, you can can enjoy the safety and comfort from
|their advantages.

Now Eric, you must remember that this is rec.motorcycles, and there is no
place here for simple, intelligent statements like that.  :-)

|Drawbacks:
|hear less at low speed
|reduced perhipheral vision
|weight & heat
|possible neck damage in some accidents
|
|Advantages:
|hear more at high speed, less hearing damage too

I actually disagree with this.  Now, of course, I have a pretty hefty
fairing, but still, I think wind noise is pretty darn significant with
a helmet on (and I have an RF200, judged my Squid Monthly to be the
quitest helmet on the market).  After some touring, and noticing my
ears ringing when trying to go to sleep in the silence of a campsite,
I *always* use ear plugs at speed.  In that case I'm pretty much
deaf as a post anyway, so helmet vs. bareheaded really is a wash, as 
far as hearing is concerned.

|face & eyes protected from flying insects/rocks/etc.
|warmer in cold weather
|and finally, can save your head and your life if you fall.

Can.  Might.  Don't count on it.  Don't fall.

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: CBX and other 6 cyl's
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:25:32 GMT

In article <28846.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>
>->      Kawasaki had a KZ1300 in-line 6 though its engine had only 12
>-> valves.
>
> Too bad the bike weighed as much as TWO midsize machines.


I seem to recall reading that the ENGINE weighed about 480 pounds.  At the 
time I was quite impressed because that was nearly as much as my R80G/S 
weighed wet, with me on it.

Doug Domokos(sp?), The Wheelie King, could wheelie a KZ1300 far enough to 
break off the tail light and still recover.
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Subject: REQUEST: Blue book value
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Keywords:  BSA 
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:26:22 GMT

A co-worker is selling a bike and I'm interested in possibly purchasing it.
The bike is a '68 BSA Victor Special (441 c.c. OHV single).  Could anyone
with a NADA give me the blue book on the bike.  If anyone else is interested
in the bike, I can post a description and pass along offers to the seller.

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J)  AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns)
Subject: BUY/SELL
Originator: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:31:40 GMT

                 FJ1100 FOR SALE                                                
                                                                                
1985 with 52k miles with White power shock, Progressive fork springs            
and stainless steel brake lines                                                 
                                                                                
No damage, minor cosmetic blemishes.                                            
                                                                                
Asking $2,000 but probably open to negotiation.  I have never seen this         
bike.  I am posting this for a friend.                                          
                                                                                
If you are interested please contact Matt Brown at (509) 736-2358               
Do not call me as I have no further info on this bike.                          
                                                                                
                                                                                
   ***********Wanting to Buy******************                                  
                                                                                
5 3/4 inch Headlight bucket for 1982 Yamaha 650 Maxima.                         
                                                                                
Call Bill Burns at (208) 667 4851                                               
                                                                                
or contact me directly and I'll function as a go-between                        
to help move things along.  I don't do this for everyone                        
but in this case, he has a cute daughter.   :-)                                 
                                                                                
Ride Free,                                                                      
                                                                                
          Bill                                                                  
___________________________________________________________________             
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC  KotV KotRR                                
DoD #00314  AMA #580924   Squid Index 3.0    WMTC #0002  KotD #0001             
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 and a Volvo.  What more could anyone ask?             
                                                                                
Just see the freedom in impermanence.                                           
                                                                                
                                             Zen graffiti                       
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rpwhite@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald White)
Subject: 1971 BSA Lightning 650cc (IT RUNS!)
Keywords: BSA
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:26:25 GMT

I've owned this '71 Beezer for more than eight years. I rode it to work all 
summer.  But I'm moving to Nashville, and my new apartment has no place for its
entourage of greasy bike parts.  If you've owned a British bike, you know that 
you don't just let parts go.  So I'm selling the whole kit and caboodle.

The bike is nearly stock, with a grey oil-tank frame and a white tank.  Parts 
include a spare tank with the original paint, the original bottom end and jugs 
(yes, the numbers match and the BSA logo is visible on the ID-stamp area), 
misc. electrical stuff, lenses, etc. etc.

I'm asking $600, but I know it's off-season, so make me an offer!

Contact Ron:  E-mail  rpwhite@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  OR  white.68@osu.edu
              Home phone: (614) 267-8152
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:27:05 EST
From: Leoner J. Perez <LP8712A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Any info on Retro Honda Cafe Racer

Help! I ran across a bike a couple weeks ago that I remember seeing in shop
a few years back that I'm really interested in. In was a Honda designed to
look like a cafe racer. It was black with gold striping, had a single seat, and
 a longer tank with the old style knee indentations. However, it included a
few modern upgrades, like disc brakes, which distinguish its modernity. This
was definately not an upgrade Super Hawk, Scrambler, or other 60's Honda.
If you know anything about this bike (i.e., years manufactured, model number,
ect.) I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Lenny
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles