HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dhess@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Drew William Hess)
Subject: Good price for PC-Xview (remote only version)
Keywords: x xwindow windows xview pc-xview
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  8 Jan 93 06:43:33 GMT

I've looked at several local stores and even checked my campus software
stores, but no one seems to sell NCD's PC-XView.  Does anyone have a mail- 
order source or a SF Bay-Area source for the remote only version of
PC-XView with XRemote?  (This is the version that only supports serial line
communication and retails for around $199.  I'd like to get a discounted
price.)

Thanks,
-dwh-
dhess@cs.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
From: dbasinge@ucs.indiana.edu (D. Michael Basinger)
Subject: Re: Latest version of QVTnet? Where or who?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:21:29 GMT

In article <C0r0Mp.54v@news.iastate.edu> tab@iastate.edu (Trent A. Basarsky) writes:

>I also agree.  Does anyone know if this is a particular problem with
>Norton Desktop for Windows?  I have tried on three machines running
>NDW and they all fail with GPFs.  On a machine running win 3.1
>straight it seems O.K.
>

I'm running WinQVT/Net 3.16 on a machine with Windows 3.1 and Norton
Desktop for Windows, and it seems to run fine. the last two time I
got a GPF error using WinQVT was do to the buffers in the program
not being set right, or not high enough (according to QPC software).
If you can set buffers with your packet driver (I do with the odi packet
driver), maybe that would help. This is just a guess, I'm probably 
completely off.

Mike
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From: A4422DAB@vm.univie.ac.at (Erich Neuwirth)
Subject: Re: Logitech mouse driver problem with Windows
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:31:41 GMT

from ftp.cica.indidana.edu or from simtel you can get a later
version of the mouse driver for logitech.
i think it is version 6.12



Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: floydb@rpi.edu
Subject: re: WinQvtNet  documentation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:32:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.210027.29372@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> sion@apache.ctr.columbia.edu (Boudi Sahyoun) writes:
>
>Is there any place where I can get the documentation on how to setup
>qnet285? The product comes with basically no info on how to set it up.
>Does it work with 3Com TCP? 
>When I try to run it, it says something like: unable to initialize network
>
>I've heard many goodies on the product and I'd really like to try it out.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Boudi

You should be able to download a later version (3.x?) from ftp.cica.indiana.edu
(/pub/pc/win3/util/wnqvt?????). The *.zip files I have downloaded and the
self extracting files I have received from QPC Software contain sufficient
info to install the product. You may have to hunt down an NDIS driver or
other adapter-specific software, which understandably is not the responsibility
of QPC (there are hundreds of network cards and configurations).

barry
From: agross@inode.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: TERMINAL CAN'T FIND MY M
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:40:50 EST
Reply-To: agross@inode.com
Distribution: world
Organization: inode BBS, Usenet Access for NYC (212-679-9146)

E >I am the proud new owner of a new 386dx-40MHz machine which happened
E >to come with windows installed.  I thought 'what the heck it might com
E >useful' so I set about setting it up.

What problems are you experiencing?

--andrew g.


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From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Win for Workgroups & TCP/IP
Date: 11 Jan 1993 04:17:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


palowoda@netcom.com (Bob Palowoda) writes:

>Kenneth L Shellberg (kls@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
>: with pctcp.  Can I run W4W, pctcp and winqvt/net, concurrently, on
>: an ndis driver?  
>  As far as I know NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You can't even setup
>  a simple way to gateway for mail between MSmail and UNIX mail. 
>  Ok, excuse me if you pay MS $7000.00 for MS's smtp gateway. You would
>  almost think that MS is trying to drill some new butt holes out there.

usoft sez tcp/ip for WFW is in the works but in the meanwhile I've seen
posts from several people who have gotten WFW to work with tcp/ip by using
a packet driver.

Whether I can do tcp, WFW, AND novell is to be determined next week :)

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From: bmartin@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (Bryan Martin)
Subject: Re: HELP: MAC diskettes on the PC !
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:26:25 GMT

As far as reading mac disks ON THE PC goes, there has just been a post to
the msdos.archives topic with a program that does exactly this!  check there
for further info.

One side note: transferring back and forth between WFW2.0 and WFM5.0 is NOT
as much fun as you think it will be.  If you have equations imbedded in your
text you will soon find that your document is becoming more and more 
corrupted as you swap back and forth.
Trust me, I did exactly this with my thesis and soon had to give up and
stick with one platform.  (Why, PC of course!)

Bryan Martin
bmartin@maemaster.eng.uci.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Text scrolling speed in ProcommPlus/Win
From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:01:13 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

In article <1h0pjlINNpl6@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
> 
> bgupta@micro.caltech.edu (Bhusan Gupta) writes:
>>I recently got ProcommPlus for Windows (1.01) and started using it. The only 
>>problem is that the scrolling speed is too slow.  I am running it on a 
>>486(dx266) with a ati ultra pro (30M winmarks). What tricks do I have at my 
>>disposal to speed up the scrolling? I have tried various fonts only to see 
>>no big improvement. Any hints?

> Either atis drivers suck or you've got something seriously wrong.  My
> 386/33 with a 1280 card runs text just fine.  A 486/66 should be fast;
> what is your definition of "too slow"?  
> 

	I agree. I have a 486dx33 with a cheap trident card and mine runs fine.
It may scroll just a touch slower than the full screen dos version but I am 
sure this is due to myy cheap trident card.

Eric
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: <None>
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 21:18:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.072119.8094@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, pschwrtz@lynx.cs.washington.edu (Paul Schwartz) writes:
> Fabbian G. Dufoe, III (fgd3@nifty.UUCP) wrote:
> : In article <1hqs7oINNkfh@shelley.u.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
> : >Let me add that I think the printer drivers Microsoft includes with
> : >it's products SUCK! SUCK! SUCK! They treat almost *every* printer like
> : >it's a draft printer. For example, BJ10ex printers support an italic
>   
> 	I've had some problems with their Panasonic (KX_P2123)
> drivers.  Some of the fonts they list as resident aren't and one of
> them isn't listed as a font but as a print option.  One slightly
> strange thing is that there is a program called the programers editor
> (a very worthwhile windows editor avialible via ftp) that does list
> the fonts correctly.  I assume that it uses the windows print program
> and drivers.  Go figure.

I thought I had a similar problem  (resident fonts) with an Epsom LQ-510,
until I fiured out that Epsom (In it's infinite wisdom) had manufactured
two different printers with the same Model Number (LQ-510) one had more
resident fonts than the other. How's the driver gonna know you have the
older one, without the extra fonts ?

Don't know about the panasonic, but wouldn't be surprised if they did 
something similar.

   John Rice        K9IJ  
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com
From: chris.mcmahan@nitelog.com (Chris Mcmahan) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Scientific graphic for WI
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:00:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: chris.mcmahan@nitelog.com (Chris Mcmahan) 

TS>Since 1989 I am looking for a good software to create scientific gr
TS>by scientific graphic line/scatter plot with complete control of bo
TS>data, axis with log scale, axis with breaks, error bars ..... 
TS>I am fed up by "Economic" graphic package tools like Excel or Lotus
TS>If you know such a software, please mail me.
TS>P.S. Any information will be welcome, even about licenced package.
TS>
TS>Thank you 
TS>
TS>Thierry Sornasse                            Elm: tsornas@ulb.ac.be
TS>Universite Libre de Bruxelles               Phone: 32-2-6509850
TS>Belgium                                     Fax: 32-2-6509840  

There is a program advertised here in the U.S. called STATGRAPHICS and
also STAGRAPHICS PLUS that I believe will do everything you require.  You
can contact them and get a free demo disk at:

	STATGRAPHICS
	(301) 984-5412
You might also look into MathCAD or Mathematica for Windows, although
these tend toward symbolic math rather than statistical graphing.

Good luck,
Chris McMahan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Windows tif viewer/printer
From: jdcarmack@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:08:41 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1993Jan4.080443.9696@cs.uoregon.edu>, akm@atlantix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) writes:
> 
> Wingif is a good program, but unfortunately does not read TIF files.
> Or at least, the version I have does not, and if you have a new
> version which can, I'd like to know about it.
> 

You are right, my apologies.  Since I messed up, I'll make up for it
by adding two more to the list that DO read TIF's:  Graphics Workshop
(GWS) for Windows and Picture Man v1.5 (a more recent acquisition).


> If you quote my article remember to trim it down to the essentials.

Trimmed enough?

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From: munn@a.cs.okstate.edu (MUNN THOMAS JOSEPH)
Subject: Re: WP4Win and bj-200 
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 08:56:58 GMT

I am thinking of purchasing a BJ-200 does anyone have any experience
with this printer and wp for win/  How does it perform as versus a 
hp deskjet?

Thanx

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From: palowoda@netcom.com (Bob Palowoda)
Subject: Re: Win for Workgroups & TCP/IP
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:25:28 GMT

Kenneth L Shellberg (kls@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: For the last several months I have very happily been using a packet
: driver and pktmux to run ftp's pctcp and winqvt/net.  Yesterday
: I saw a demo of windows for workgroups(W4W) and I want to get it.
: However, I am told that W4W needs an ndis driver to run concurrently
: with pctcp.  Can I run W4W, pctcp and winqvt/net, concurrently, on
: an ndis driver?  I have ftp'd and looked at the ndis stuff from ftp.vax
: and still don't have a clue.
: 

  As far as I know NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You can't even setup
  a simple way to gateway for mail between MSmail and UNIX mail. 
  Ok, excuse me if you pay MS $7000.00 for MS's smtp gateway. You would
  almost think that MS is trying to drill some new butt holes out there.

---Bob

palowoda@netcom.com



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From: timp@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Tim Posney)
Subject: Re: WFW 2.0 "Out of Memory" Error
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:41:59 GMT

We have had the same out of memory problems.
Auto save is indeed one of the causes. There is also a configuration switch
called fast save, this should be disabled. I believe that this saves the
file as original plus deltas (or some such) this also can cause problems

I noticed that you said WFW 2.0. There is a bug fix release (mainly for this
bug I believe) called 2.0a. The good news is that it improves things a lot
:-), the bad news is that it still happens :-(, but not as often :-).

regards tim
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:31:32 EST
From: <HAGERS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: printer driver needed

I have windows 3.1..and i am running aldus pagemaker 4.0..
am having difficulty getting a printout on a DESKJET 500..
do you know where i might find up-to-date printer drivers
for this printer with these applications?..any and all help
would be most welcome!

Happy new year!
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: kristian@siri.unit.no (Kristian Martinsen)
Subject: Frames in WfW2.0: Hoe to change defaults?
Organization: University of Trondheim
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 10:00:51 GMT

How can I change the default setting for the frames in WfW2.0?

Kristian.
From: f0l8973@rigel.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Is there any text-editor for Windows?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 09:46 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: rigel.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <PRAU.93Jan12154432@machina.hut.fi>, prau@machina.hut.fi (Petri Rauhamaa) writes...
>I'm Looking for a small Notepad-like text-editor which can handle as
>much text as needed. Notepad is fine, but it can handle just small
>files. Is there any?
>--
>======================================================================
>  Petri Rauhamaa    Email: Petri.Rauhamaa@hut.fi    Tel: 90-135 6554
>======================================================================

Try Power Pad or the text editor come with Norton Desktop.  
The later is the best I have ever seen.  It can do almost 
anything.

Feng

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From: danony@aix.rpi.edu (Yaron Danon)
Subject: Re: HELP: MAC diskettes on the PC !
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 14:47:26 GMT

In article <2B4DFFA5.13503@news.service.uci.edu> kaseko@atlas.its.uci.edu (Mohamed Kaseko) writes:
>I am looking for a good PC-based sotware that can enable me
>to read MAC formated diskettes on my PC. I would like to be 
 
If you have high density drives on the Mac (and PC) there is a shareware called
macsee in CICAi, it might still be in the NOV92 or DEC92 directory in the uploads
directory. The file name is macsee.zip.

Yaron
From: victor@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (V Menayang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Latest version of QVTnet?  Where or who?
Date: 11 Jan 93 06:11:02 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin

Quick question: I registered my copy quite some time ago.
Can I legally use the recent releases?
The registration fee was so cheap at that time that I don't
expect direct upgrades from QPC.

-victor
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From: dbasinge@ucs.indiana.edu (D. Michael Basinger)
Subject: Re: Latest version of QVTnet?  Where or who?
Keywords: qvt
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:57:22 GMT

I just downloaded WinQVT/Net 3.16 from ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the
/pub/pc/win3/uploads directory. Looks like a new icon and some bug
fixes. Plus mail can pick between smtp and pop.

Mike
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From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: Latest version of QVTnet?  Where or who?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:30:41 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1isl3tINN5op@chnews.intel.com> sberger@sedona.intel.com (Scott Berger) writes:
>	I'll second that one. Last year we tried to get terms for
>licensing twenty copies, but they never responded to snailmail,
>and their compuserve email box is always full. Their loss, we went
>with someone else.

Which someone else did you go with?

Part of the problem is that I have never found a package that is nearly
as good as QVTNet...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WFW Ver 2.0 2.0a 2.0b 2.0
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:02:57 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <6350.1099.uupcb@satalink.com> vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco) writes:
>an entirely new program.  MS, or maybe someone else, one 
>day came up with the idea to tack alpha characters onto 
>version numbers when the only "enhancements" were, in 

I quite like this system. It allows me to distinguish between bug
fixes, minor enhahncements and major rewrites.

>Apparently, we're just supposed to keep shelling out the 
>money, to pay 2 and 3 times for what we should have 

Well, Microsoft sent me the bug fixes for free. They will undoubtedly
charge for new versions with improved functionality. This seems fair
to me - TANSTAAFL.

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Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.apps:6711 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:2573
From: dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard=)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: QUESTION: Mouse in a box - HOW???
Summary: How do I get my mouse to work in DOS windows?
Keywords: mouse
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:29:17 GMT
Organization: UB

I have an Insight 486DX-33 with 4 MB RAM and an Insight MS-compatible
mouse.  How do I get the mouse to work in DOS windows (ie: CADKEY, Quattro
Pro 3, WP 5.1 for DOS)?  I read an article in WINDOWS magazine on how to do
this, but it didn't work.  Any idea as to what the deal is?  Thanks.


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Subject: quick (and basic) download question
From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:25:26 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

Hi all,

I have a FAQ: I have pc+ for windows and wp4w 5.2. I am downloading file
from a vax that I uploaded in dos (ascii text). Now when I download this
into wp4w, I have no problem except that I get hard returns on some lines
where I did not have them. So I have to go through the document and delete
them.
I know this is my ignorance. What do I need to adjust either in the upload
or bringing the doc into wp to alleviate this? Oh I am using the Kermit prot.

Thanks!

Eric D.
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From: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com (W. Donald Rolph)
Subject: Re: ELM / Unix Mail Reader?
Originator: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments / Attleboro Mass / USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:10:17 GMT


In article <8429@news.duke.edu>, gronke@acpub.duke.edu (Paul Gronke) writes:
|> I think i saw this before...
|>  
|> We are running a number of PCs on a Novell network.  For the time
|> being, we have to retriev mail off of a Unix system (Dec  Ultrix, so
|> no NSF mail, only SMTP).  
|>  
|> I need to put people up on the unix mail system (probably elm).
|> However, I heard about a program for the PC (Windows, Dos?) which will
|> sign in for them, retrieve their mail folders, and bring it back down
|> to the PC.  So that people can handle mail locally (rather than
|> teaching them elm+emacs, etc).
|>  
|> Any help?  Please mail to:  GRONKE@ACPUB.DUKE.EDU
If you are willing to run DEC pathworks on you  DEC Ultrix system and your pcs,
then DEC includes a mail reader which will allow pcs to access their unix mail
from a pc based mail reader.  Pathworks ahs the hooks in place to allow
coexistence of pathworks and Novell.

If you want to be standards based you can tread into the lightly populated waters
of pc-mail, pop2, pop3, and imap client server mail systems (there are rfcs for
all of these).  I am finding a shortage of good readers, however, particularly
for use with windows, and attaching to a socket library rather than a packet
driver.
-- 

Regards.
 
Don Rolph  a722756@pan.mc.ti.com WD3 MS10-13 (508)-699-1263
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From: rgoers@iset.scan.mc.xerox.com (Ron Goers)
Subject: Re: Anyone uses a HP Laserjet IIP plus with Windows ?
Organization: Imaging Science Engineering & Technology, Xerox Corporation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:57:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.162118.21849@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> rjf1@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.j.flynn) writes:
>You should be ok.  My IIP has only 1.5 meg and I run Word for Windows 2.0,
>ABC Flowcharter, Harvard Graphics for Windows and various graphics
>programs.  I've never had a problem printing full page grapics and/or
>documents that had a lot of fonts, fontsizes and graphics.

Take special note of the 1.5 meg though.  The IIP comes standard with only
512K.  I had LOTS of trouble trying to print even text pages from Ventura
Publisher, using only the original 512k.  Also note that memory upgrade of
the HP variety are EXPENSIVE!  I did find some third party vendors with 
more reasonable prices.

ron


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