HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: heiko@Harpo.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Heiko Schlichting)
Subject: Re: Ausstehende Newsgroups
Reply-To: admin@methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Dept. of Chemistry
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:25:40 GMT

wasp@chumly.ka.sub.org (Walter Mildenberger) writes:
>	admin@methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de writes:

>$>Also: ist jemand bereit sich fuer eine (noch zu schaffende) Gruppe
>$>      "de.admin.news.announce" als Moderatorkandidat zur Verfuegung
>$>      zu stellen? Aufgaben waeren: zukuenftige RFDs und CFV annehmen,
>$>      auf Zulaessigkeit/Netetiquette-Konformitaet ueberpruefen und
>$>      (Zwischen-)Ergebnisse von Votings veroeffentlichen.

>Ja.

Bravo. (*Beifall*)

>Aber dazu muessten wir uns vorher erst mal wirklich auf verbindliche Regeln
>einigen: zum einen wurden die bestehenden in letzter Zeit immer haeufiger
>gebrochen, zum anderen sollten wir in der Tat ein paar (Beteiligungs-)Zahlen
>erhoehen; siehe Diskussion vor einiger Zeit.

Muss man sich darueber wirklich *vorher* einigen? Wenn ja, wie soll
das geschehen? Es gab doch bereits ein ziemlich gutes Ergebnis, mit
dem alle zufrieden waren. Wie waere es, wenn man dass in die de.newuser
Text aufnimmt und dann danach verfaehrt? Der Moderator von
de.admin.news.announce wird schon feststellen, was dann nicht perfekt
ist und dann entsprechende Massnahmen ergreifen: selbst entscheiden,
Richtlinien aendern oder zur Diskussion stellen.

Heiko
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heiko@harpo.chemie.fu-berlin.de       | Institut fuer Kristallographie
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: de.admin.news
Subject: Re: Ausstehende Newsgroups
Date: 6 Apr 1992 13:42:45 +0200
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: smurf.smurf.sub.org

In de.admin.news, article <9T11P7U@math.fu-berlin.de>,
  admin@methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de writes:
< >[...] (Ankuendigungen sollten
< >in de.admin.news und in dieser neuen newsgroup erscheinen.)
< 
< - de.admin.news.groups.announce (moderiert)
< 
< Fuer die von Matthias angesprochenen Ankuendigungen. In dieser Gruppe
< sollten CFVs und RFDs angekuendigt werden (Followup-To nach 
< de.admin.news.groups).

Wenn eine moderierte Ankuendigungs-Newsgroup wirklich sein muss (ich
persoenlich bin davon noch nicht so ganz ueberzeugt...), dann aber
bitte ohne das .groups im Namen.

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Xref: sparky de.admin.news:1133 de.etc.misc:678
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: de.admin.news,de.etc.misc
Subject: Re: Ergebnis des CFV zu de.soc.recht
Date: 9 Apr 1992 08:36:26 +0200
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: smurf.smurf.sub.org

In de.admin.news, article <1992Apr7.203818.01783@ptavv.ka.sub.org>,
  ralf@ptavv.ka.sub.org (Ralf Wenk) writes:
< In article <H.RvuO71q9Pdc@moppl.ppc.sub.org>
< ego@moppl.ppc.sub.org (Rainer Gauweiler) writes:
< > [...]
< > Sollte innerhalb von 10 Tagen kein Protest kommen, so werde ich die
< > entsprechende Control-Msg losschicken (kann mir bitte noch schnell jemand
< > erklaeren wie man das macht, das wird im entsprechendem Hilfstext naemlich
< > nicht erklaert... :-( ).
< 
< Bisher war es doch ueblich Matthias Urlichs eine entsprechende
< Nachricht zukommen zu lassen, damit er die newgroup-Nachricht
< posted. Ist dies neuerdings (seit de.*) nicht mehr der Fall ?
< 
Das ist durchaus noch der Fall. (Dreimal darfst du raten, wiesodas nicht im
Hilfstext steht... :-)


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From: CB@brewhq.swb.de (Christian Balzer)
Newsgroups: de.admin.news
Subject: Re: Distribution usa ?!?!? was macht die hier ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:54:04 GMT
Reply-To: CB@brewhq.swb.de (Christian Balzer)
Organization: The Software Brewery

In article <H.qGefFJYp7IM@keep.fantasy.sub.org> woju@keep.fantasy.sub.org (Wolfgang Jung) writes:
>
[...]

Distributionen erfuellen in diesen Tagen ihren eigentlichen Zweck nur noch
bei kleinen oder genau definierten und entsprechend verwalteten Netzen
(z.B. firmeninterne Netze).

Eine Distribution usa in einer comp.* Gruppe ist fast immer das Ergebniss
eines falsch konfigurierten Newsystems oder eines schlecht informierten
Posters. In den seltensten Faellen soll ein solcher Artikel auf die USA
beschraenkt bleiben und die Intentionen hinter dieser Limitierung sind
meistens auch nicht besonders schluessig.

Um einen Artikel regional oder logisch zu begrenzen gibt es fast immer
entsprechende Newsgroups (wobei z.B. bei de.* eine _logische_, naemlich
deutschsprachige Definition gilt und keine auf D A CH raeumlich
beschraenkte).

Ich sehe lieber _alle_ Artikel in comp.dcom.modems und nicht nur die bei
denen z.B. im Rahmen einer Diskussion sich endlich mal einer erbarmt hat,
die beim urspruenglichen Artikel falsch angegebene Distribution usa oder
na zu loeschen.

Sollte ich die Moeglichkeit haben all.all zu "importieren" wuerde ich
Distributionen im Regelfall froehlich ignorieren...

Salute,

<CB>
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Newsgroups: nyc.general
From: wam@nynexst.com (Walter A. Manrique)
Subject: Apartment fot Rent -- North Bergen, NJ
Organization: Nynex Science & Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:17:54 GMT

	1 Bedroom apartment for rent
	Parking on premises
	Close to trasportation
	Minutes away from midtown Manhattan
	$675/Month

	If interested contact me at work
	my number is,

	(914) 644-2698
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NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
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Newsgroups: nyc.general
From: hammer@panix.com (Mark Hammer)
Subject: Dorsai Diplomatic Mission
Summary: Does anyone have telephone number for this system
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:34:30 GMT
Distribution: nyc
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: Dorsai DDM Diplomatic Mission NYC

Does anyone have the telephone number for the Dorsai Diplomatic Mission 
(DDM)?  I believe they were making a move from Manhattan to Brooklyn a 
couple of months ago, but I could not find their new telephone number. 
Thanks!


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       Mark Hammer                           hammer@panix.com
       Brooklyn, USA                         {cmc12,apple}!panix!hammer
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Newsgroups: nyc.general,rec.arts.theatre
From: dough@panix.com (Doug Harris)
Subject: tiks for _Streetcar_ for sale
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:07:29 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I have two tenth row, center tickets to see the new production of _A
Streetcar Named Desire_ (starring Alec Baldwin and Jessica Lange) that
I can't use and would like to sell.  The tickets are for Thursday,
April 23 and are $50 each.

If you are interested, please call me at work at (203) 863-5052.

doug

-- 
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You don't have to be a Republican to celebrate Lincoln's birthday.
- Joel Fleischman, "Northern Exposure"
Newsgroups: nyc.seminars
From: fj@SHIRE.MATH.COLUMBIA.EDU (Fred Johnson)
Subject: seminar scedule for April 13 week
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:07:27 GMT



    Columbia University
    Department of Mathematics

Seminars                    Week of April 13, 1992



                MONDAY, APRIL 13            

NUMBER THEORY: (D. Goldfeld & J. Mueller) S. Friedberg (UC Santa 
Cruz) "Mellin transforms of Whittaker functions." 4:00pm, 520 Math.  
M. Bertolini, "Iwasawa theory and Heegner points. 5:30 pm, 507 
Math.  Tea will be served  at 5:00pm in 508 Math.

                
                WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15

MATHEMATICAL PHYSICS: (D.H.Phong) V. Schechtman (SUNY at 
Stony Brook) Title to be announced. 3:00pm, 520 Math.


COLLOQUIUM: (B. Fisher) Frederic Bien (Princeton) "Finite generation 
problems for homogeneous spaces."  5:30pm, 312 Math.  Tea will be 
served at 5:00pm in 508 Math.


                THURSDAY, APRIL 16

PROBABILTY: Jim Fill (Johns Hopkins) "The mathematics of card 
shuffling." 2:40pm, 528 Math

SPECIAL LECTURE: Yuri Manin (Steklov Institute & Columbia) 
Eilenberg Visiting Professor, "Zeta functions and motives." 
(continued) 11:00 am,  520 Math.  Tea will be served at 10:30am in 
508 Math.   
_____________________________________________________________

The weekly seminar schedule  is now available on email, netnews 
groups, nyc.seminars.  Send your email address to 
om@math.columbia.edu .  If you wish to continue to receive the 
schedule by post please drop us a note at Dept. of Mathematics, 
Columbia University, New York, NY 10027.
    

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Newsgroups: nyc.seminars
From: benji@SHIRE.MATH.COLUMBIA.EDU (Benji Fisher)
Subject: change of title:  4/15 Columbia math colloquium
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:54:28 GMT

Columbia mathematics colloquium
Wednesday April 15 5:30
Frederic Bien (Princeton) will talk on "Local rigidity of spherical
varieties," not "Finite generation problems for homogeneous spaces,"
as originally announced.
Newsgroups: nyc.seminars
From: hochberg@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU
Subject: IAS Seminars, Week of April 13, 1992
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:49:00 GMT

				INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED STUDY
				   School of Mathematics
				    Princeton, NJ 08540


Seminars for the Week of April 13, 1992



SPECIAL ANALYSIS SEMINAR				Monday		11:00 a.m.
   Speaker:  Nina Uraltzeva, USSR			April 13	Fuld 119
   Topic:    Nonlinear oblique boundary value problems for
	       parabolic equation


ANALYSIS SEMINAR 					Tuesday		11:00 a.m.
   Speaker:  Antonio Cordoba, Autonoma			April 14	Fuld 119
   Topic:    Singular perturbations of functionals and 
	       applications to phase transitions


MATHEMATICAL PHYSICS SEMINAR				Tuesday		4:00 p.m.
   Speaker:  Russell Caflisch, UCLA			April 14	Fuld 119
   Topic:    Singularities for complex solutions of the
	       3D Euler equations


SPECIAL MATHEMATICAL PHYSICS SEMINAR			Wednesday	11:00 a.m.
   Speaker:  James Berryman, Livermore			April 15	Fuld 119
   Topic:    Rigorous feasibility constraints for nonlinear
	       inversion problems


MATHEMATICAL PHYSICS SEMINAR*				Wednesday	1:30 p.m.
   Speaker:  Yu Chen, IAS				April 15	Fuld 119 
   Topic:    Numerical methods for acoustic inverse scattering


JOINT IAS-PU SEMINAR IN ALGEBRAIC GROUPS		Wednesday	2:30 p.m.
   Speaker:  Lin Tan, University of Pennsylvania	April 15	Fine 314
   Topic:    An elementary counter example to Hilbert's 
	       fourteenth problem


JOINT IAS-PU COMPLEX ANALYSIS SEMINAR			Thursday	11:00 a.m.
   Speaker:  Gerardo Mendoza, Temple University		April 16	Fuld 119
   Topic:    Parametrices for Laplacians in strictly
	       pseudoconvex domains


P-ADIC ANALYTIC SPACES SEMINAR				Thursday	4:00 p.m.
   Speaker:  Vladimir Berkovich, IAS			April 16 	Fuld 119
   Topic:    Etale cohomology for p-adic analytic spaces (continued)






*Postponed from last week
From: silk@dorm.rutgers.edu (The Queen's Chorale)
Newsgroups: nyc.announce
Subject: The Rutgers Queen's Chorale Concert April 11
Keywords: event,concert,rutgers,april
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:42:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

SPRING CONCERT!!!

The Rutgers University Queen's Chorale (a forty-member
all-female singing group) is proud to present their Spring
Concert on April 11th at 8:00pm at Kirkpatrick Chapel (on
Old Queen's Campus, Rutgers New Brunswick), featuring works
by Mozart, Mendelssohn, Charles Ives, and Cole Porter.

Admission is $3.00 for students,
             $5.00 without Rutgers University ID.

Come and save us from extinction!!  ;)
From: agodwin@acorn.co.uk (Adrian Godwin)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Need help with Sony TV remote control
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:36:45 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, UK

In article <1992Apr11.010124.6186@newstand.syr.edu> ldstern@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Larry Stern) writes:
>To all: a neighbor of mine has a 6-7 year old Sony Trinitron, which works
>well except for the remote control. The remote had an intermittent problem
>where it would work fine for a few weeks, not work at all for a few days,
>start working ok again, etc. It seems it is now, finally, dead. There is
>one IC, a crystal, a few resistors and caps, and an LED inside. My question
>is, what usually goes? Is this worth fixing? And finally, can this LED be
>tested with an ohmeter like a "regular" diode?
>

It's often the keypad that goes, not the electronics. The conductive rubber
pads on the buttons wear out, and don't connect any more. Check the buttons 
that you don't use much, and see if they don't work either. Also, clean the
PCB  under the keypad - if one of the buttons is permanently shorted, the
others won't work.

I don't know how reliable the LEDs are, but they tend to have a much higher
forward voltage drop than an ordinary silicon diode - about 1.6V. This may
be too high for an ohmeter, so it will indicate open circuit both ways.
Test it by connecting up a voltage source & series resistor to limit the
current to about 10mA, and measure the voltage drop over the diode.

-adrian

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Newsgroups: sci.electronics
From: harun@analog.ingr.com (Bustamam Harun)
Subject:  Is this newsgroup archived somewhere?
Organization: DAZIX, San Ramon, CA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:42:16 GMT

I'm new in this news group, and I don't want bring up same old question.  If some nice soul
could tell me where to obtain archive for this news group.

Bustamam.
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Subject: Re: Electronic Delays--how do they work?
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:36:12 GMT

The old style electronic delays used two open-reel tape recorders mounted
side by side so that a large tape path could be made from one to the other.
The left-most machine was set to record while the righthand machine was
in the play mode.  The distance between the two machines was such that it
took x number of seconds for the tape to get from the record head on the
recorder to the playback head on the player.
     Modern audio delays use digital electronics and, therefore, are much
neater in their operation than the old electromechanical systems.  They 
have an analog to digital converter as the encoder anda digital to analog
converter as the decoder.  Of course, the encoder and decoder have low-pass
filters to satisfy the Niquist requirements of the system.  Between the
encoder and decoder is a large memory buffer which has enough storage to
hold a given number of seconds of audio.  The length of the delay is limited
by the number of bytes in the buffer.  At a sampling rate of 20,000 samples
per second, the highest audio frequency would be 10Khz and a 7-second delay
would need about 140Kbytes.  Of course, there are compression tricks such as
delta PCM to reduce the amount of memory required, but such delays use 
quite a lot of memory.  The higher the fidelity of the audio needed, the
faster the sampling rate and the more memory needed.  The delay is achieved
by reading each location in the buffer and sending that to the output, then
writing a new sample to that same location.  As the system goes round and 
round, the output is always x seconds behind the input.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
From: hofmann@cs.uiuc.edu (J. Scott Hofmann)
Subject: WANTED: MC68HC11A8 chips
Originator: hofmann@suna3.cs.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: hofmann@cs.uiuc.edu (J. Scott Hofmann)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:52:33 GMT

    Can someone please tell me where I can buy the Motorola 68HC11 chip,
A8 variety? My usual electronics store (Jameco) doesn't have that chip.
   Please answer by email since I am not subscribed to this group. Thanks!

                                                      J. Scott Hofmann

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From: monty@blackhole.lerc.nasa.gov (Monty Andro)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Need parallel I/O, ISA interface boards.
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:57:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: blackhol.MONTY.92Apr6115733
Distribution: sci
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center


Hello

I'm looking for suggestions or recomendations for ISA compatible
parallel I/O boards that come with, or can be configured with
RS-422/Differential type drivers.  I've seen boards that implement the
RS-422 interface, but I just want plain generic parallel I/O that has
differential drive capability.  Any recommendations or suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.

Monty
From: ssave@ole.uucp (Shailendra Save)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Telephone line Question
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:02:42 GMT
Organization: Cascade Design Automation, Bellevue, WA


  I am trying to build a gadget which will interface with my computer
and telephone, so that I can dial in commands to the computer to do
stuff at home.

  The problem is how the computer will detect that the phone is ringing
so that it can pick up the call and respond.  What happens to the 
telephone line when the call comes in?  Anyone with experience with
phone line projects please tell me if I should try to detect the ring
freqency or the drop/rise in impedence?  And if you have succeeded in one
or the other, how have you done it?  All circuits, IC numbers and other
general info appreciated.

Thanks,
Shailendra
ole!ssave@sumax.seattleu.edu
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Dick Smith Electronics
From: Antony_George@kcbbs.gen.nz (Antony George)
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:29:59 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Dick Smiths is alive & well in both N.Z. & Australia.
Chain store type stuff.
From: petere@tesla.mitre.org (Peter D. Engels)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Re: PSpice 5.0a Uploaded to SIMTEL
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:15:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr8.181525.6451
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <3_lj2vq@lynx.unm.edu>, jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr3.084136.8524@coe.montana.edu> ieeu0026@cs.montana.edu (Blaine Kubesh) writes:
> >Pspice 5.0a has been uploaded to the SIMTEL archives available via 
> >anonymous FTP to OAK.oakland.edu (141.210.10.117) or any mirror (if updated).
> >There are three files that must be unzipped each onto a 1.2M or 1.44M floppy
> >to install.
> >
> >The files can be found in <msdos.education>.
> >
> >PSPICE5A.ZIP      This is Disk #1 and contains the installation program
> >PSPICE5B.ZIP	  Disk #2.
> >PSPICE5C.ZIP	  Schematics program
> >
> >The first two files contain the circuit simulator, the third file is the 
> >schematics program that runs under Windows 3.0. 
> >
> >Remember to use binary mode and the  first two files are approx 1.1Meg.
> >
> >Enjoy..       Blaine Kubesh
> >-- 
> >-----------------------------------------------------
> >Blaine Kubesh  --->>	ieeu0026@amin.ee.montana.edu
> >MSU, Bozeman Montana    Electrical Engineering  
> >-----------------------------------------------------
> 
> Anyone know if there is a Macintosh version of this, or something
> comparable??

The Macintosh version of PSpice 5.0a is available via anonymous ftp
from either sumex-aim.stanford.edu, or mac.archive.umich.edu

- Pete
From: jasonh@aeras.uucp (Jason Harris)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Re: HV shocks (was: Jacob's ladder)
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:10:02 GMT
Reply-To: jasonh@aeras.UUCP (Jason Harris)
Organization: Arix Corporation, San Jose, CA.

In article <vmyjt9b@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:

>Yeah.  You and I both.  You'd have loved our electric chair I built when
>I was a yound teenager.  The chair was simple.  A sraightback wooden
>chair had an aluminum plate fastened to the seat and another fastened
>to the back.  The plates were connected to a 15,000 volt neon
>transformer.

Jeez. You were a sick kid.

Jason.
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Cheap EPROM eraser for sale
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:41:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Apr12.194121.22960
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Originator: kolstad@sun-23.cae.wisc.edu

Hi,

I have a DataRase (the first one) that I'd like to sell (...I bought a
DataRase II!).  It will erase 2 28 pin EPROMs at a time, but I also hacked
another port into the side so you can now also erase one 40 pin (thing).
(It still looks OK... my hacks are elegant hacks. :-) )

It hasn't been used that much... 50 hours would probably be a high estimate.
(It doesn't take very long to erase an EPROM with one of these...)

I'd let it go (and pay shipping to get it to you) for $12, but you can also
feel free to make an offer.

					---Joel Kolstad
					kolstad@cae.wisc.edu
From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Re: HV shocks (was: Jacob's ladder)
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:11:15 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

helfman@aero.org (Robert S. Helfman) writes:

>Funny, I was exactly the same age when I got my first (and last) shock from
>a sign transformer. I was at a junior high carnival and I set up a
>Jacob's Ladder. It was nighttime and I was moving it around with the power
>on. (It seems everyone is sure they're immortal at that age!).

>I remember that when I made contact, I was living proof that it's only a
>myth that "White Men Can't Jump"! I must have gone three feet straight up.
>My arm, legs, back, everything hurt for a week afterwards - and it WAS 
>the worst shock I ever received. (It was right-arm-through-body-to-leg.) 

>I don't think I've gotten over 500 volts since that had 
>ANY current capacity - that was in the days of 450 vdc supplies driving
>tube equipment. I've had some CRT bites but nothing that could deliver
>serious current. I'm almost 54 and I can still remember that shock at
>age 13 like it was yesterday. It's one of the few memories from that age
>that I still have!

Yeah.  You and I both.  You'd have loved our electric chair I built when
I was a yound teenager.  The chair was simple.  A sraightback wooden
chair had an aluminum plate fastened to the seat and another fastened
to the back.  The plates were connected to a 15,000 volt neon
transformer.

After I got it built, the obvious question arose.  What to do with it?
A bit of teenage hormonal thinking resulted in it being turned into
a test of manhood.  The test was simple.  A variac was hooked in series
with the primary.  The contest was to see who could sit in the 
chair and see who could turn the knob up the highest.  As the inventor,
I was exempt from this, of course.  We were smart enough to have
a dead-man's switch (apropos, huh?) in the circuit.  If I only had
a video camera.  You'd be amazed at the things the human body
can withstand in the process of one acquiring one's manhood (or losing
it as the case may be :-)

Yep, amazing we made it to adulthood.  Makes me chuckle when I 
think about the risk-sterile society some would now force on us.

John
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Marietta, Ga                  | Viet Nam.              
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