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From: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,rec.arts.movies
Subject: EUROPA EUROPA questions --- HELP!
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:57:10 GMT
Reply-To: bakker@cs.uq.oz.au
Followup-To: soc.culture.jewish
Organization: Depts. of Computer Science & Psychology, The University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia

URGENT

If you have seen the movie Europe Europa (a recent German movie about 
the adventures of a jewish boy during World War II), please hit
'r' now!

Our national newspaper is running a competition based on this movie,
and the closing date is Good Friday. Unfortunately for me, the movie
Europa Europa hasn't opened in my city (Brisbane) yet.

There are 6 questions to be answered. The following can only be
answered by someone who has seen the movie:

- Nazi thugs attack the Perel home on the eve of what important family
celebration?

- To which Polish town does the Perel family flee when they leave
Germany?

- With which European leader did Solomon Perel share his birthday?

- Which two people did Solomon Perel reveal his true identity to?

If you know the answer to any of these questions, please respond.
If by some miracle I win the competition, I will certainly reward you
generously! The prize is a return flight to Eastern Europe.

thanks,
paul bakker
bakker@cs.uq.oz.au
--
PaulBakker ------------------------------------- email:bakker@cs.uq.oz.au
Depts.ofComputerScience/Psychology,UniversityofQueensland,Qld4072,Australia

"He who slings mud is sure to lose ground" - Lady Flo 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gevins@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Jody Gevins)
Subject: Re: Interrelationship excerpts
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:44:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.114722.20499@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>> He seems a bit more easy-going about things in general.  (He uses an
>>English ketubah, leaving the Aramaic side there, but not filled in,
>>and substituting "the laws of G-d" for "the laws of Moses and
>>Israel".)
>
>If there was ever an example of putting your own will before that of
>G-d, this is it.  How, pray, tell, did G-d transmit _these_ particular
>laws?

Probably in same way he transmitted the laws of using timers to turn
on the TV on Shabbat.

And aren't you aware that Christianity began with Judaism?  I think
that's the point those people are trying to make by having the Ketubah
changed.  The "laws of G-d" are different for both religions.

Here I go, getting upset about what people say again.  Go on, flame
away.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (David Kaufmann)
Subject: Lubavitcher Rebbe's 90th birthday
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-29048]: bourbon
Organization: E.E. Dept., Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:03:07 GMT



Today, 11 Nissan, marks the 90th birthday of the Lubavitcher Rebbe,
Shlita. In honor of his innumerable contributions to Jewish education,
welfare and Ahavas Yisroel in over 40 years of leadership, may all
Jews share in the zchus of wishing him a refuah shlamah. Through our
individual furtherance of learning Torah and observance of mitzvot,
may we all also merit to participate, in this season of the first
redemption, in the final redemption, with the coming of Moshiach
Tzidkenu, when ALL Jews, everywhere, will return to Israel and
Jerusalem and there will be true peace among all mankind.
David Kaufmann
INTERNET:	david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Apology
Originator: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:29:08 GMT


Hi Miss X

I am sorry for what you complained about. I won't do it again.

Regards
Nabil
From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Correction: Chalav Yisrael Post
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:04:48 GMT
Organization: AT&T Migration Systems

In article <IduVuze00WBLQ8mRE3@andrew.cmu.edu> sb5i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sandy Bodzin) writes:
>Numerous people have asserted that it is possible, albeit unlikely, that
>some grain would end up in the milk as the cows are fed while being
>milked.  Still, as milk is not water, wouldn't milk fall into the
>category of "mei peirot" as far as chametz is concerned?  Thus, even if
>grain and milk mixed, the result would not be true chametz and the issur
>is only a lav (poskim differ about the seriousness of the lav - this is
>the same lav applied to egg matzot), and not karet.  It just seems
>excessive to me to rule out all dairy products on the very remote chance
>that one may be over on a lav. 
>
>Hag Sameach,
>
>Sandy


  The following explanation was given to me a while ago.

Vitamin D is added to milk products now as well.  Many of these
are from Chometz sources.  Chometz on Pesach is never batul.
Chometz before Pesach is batul.  Thus, the milk is actually taken
before Pesach so that any chometz in it is batul.  The
certification (besides making it Cholov Yisroel) also certifies
that it was taken at the time the chometz can become batul.

Many people (who don't necessarily keep cholov yisroel) will
therefore buy all of their milk before Pesach and keep it in the
refrigerator.  This serves the same purpose as buying kosher
lePesach milk during Chol Hamoed.

Note also, the minhag to buy all your eggs before Pesach as well.

_______________________________________________________________
| Hillel Markowitz        |    Im ain ani li mi li             |
| H_Markowitz@att.com     |    Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha      |
|_________________________|____________________________________|
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,talk.politics.misc
From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Ross Perot
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:28:50 CDT


In article <1992Apr13.140609.17239@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.105704.12741@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob) writes:
> >  EDS has had a bad reputation among computer professionals for a
> >  long time.  In many ways, EDS is stricter than even the Eisenhower
> >  administration.  Jews have been fired for refusing to shave off 
> >  their beards.  
> 
> Does anyone have documentation/additional information about this?

As a former EDSer, I strongly doubt this allegation is true for the 
simple reason that durring the interviewing process at EDS it is made 
clear that beards are not permitted.  EDS makes sure that prospective
employees know about the dress code (suits, short hair, no beards) 
and are willing to abide by that policy before they are hired (which,
IMHO, is not a whole lot different than making sure the prospective 
employee is willing to program in COBOL, if that is what the job requires).

So for this allegation to be true, the people fired would have had
to have been clean shaven before being hired and then grown beards
dispite the well known policy.

I suspect the suggestion that religion is a factor or that Jews
are targeted is an attempt to smear EDS/Perot.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
From: unixwiz@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Silk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: I say we should start a soc.culture.kkk or soc.culture.fascist newsgrou
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:38:06 GMT

In <lexier.703224944@sfu.ca> lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Lyle Lexier) writes:

>Hello everyone,
> 
>I say that we should start a soc.culture.kkk or soc.culture.fascist newsgroup
>where people could discuss neo-nazi issues which don't really pertain to the
>Jewish people as there aren't many Jews who would be interested in such dreck
>in the first place.
> 

There may be Jews who are not interested in it, but it *IS* necessary that
we know about it.  The popular quote "Remember not to forget" has been
bandied about in many places.   We must remember the Holocaust, *AND* it's
causes so as to prevent it from happening again....

Facists world-wide, especially anti-semitic ones pose one of the greatest
threats to the Jewish people as a whole, world-wide.  Right wing groups
such as the KKK, WAR, Aryan Nation, etc. are listed by the FBI as
"Right-Wing Terrorist Groups."  I, for one, cannot just ignore them.  I
believe that it is my duty as a Jew to stop prejudice and hatred wherever I
see it.  Many races have suffered, Blacks, Jews, Arabs, Asians.  All must
look out for the other....for, unless we do, then what will we do when they
come for us, and we have not stood up for the others??  Who will speak for
us?


>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|  Lyle Lexier       | There should be no discrimination against any person  |
>|lexier@fraser.sfu.ca| for his/her race, sex, or sexual orientation.         |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

y'rachmeal laeb simcha

unixwiz@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,talk.politics.mideast
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Re: Explosion in Buenos Aires
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 15:44:01 GMT

>>> 1> Who is the author of this book. Is he an Arab? This is very important.
>>>
>>>This is fairly clearly offensive -- and is, in fact, exactly the kind
>>>of overgeneralizing for which a number of people have been lately flaming
>>>me. If I can't do it about Arabs, you can't do it about Jews.
>
>>Nora
>>
>>I don't find the above statment offensive either. If any arab felt offended 
>>by it then he is short sighted.
>
>Fair enough. I still think that it's overgeneralizing, since neither all
>Arabs nor all Jews support unequivocally the positions most commonly asso-
>ciated with them, but I apologize for any implication of a double standard.
>
>	-Nora
>
>
Good deal!

Nabil
>
>
>-- 
>Oseh shalom b'imromav, hu ya'aseh shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael.
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: fishfood
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:51:25 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway

In <1992Apr8.221305.1@zodiac.rutgers.edu> monnik@zodiac.rutgers.edu writes:

>does anyone know fishfood that is kasher lepesach?

When I had fish I used to buy bags of live brine shrimp from the pet
shop.  Of course this was a nuisance as they don't keep that long so I
had to keep running there for more.  I once bought a kit that was
supposed to let you raise your own, but it never worked.

Is it time for soc.culture.jewish.aquaria?  There's no aquaria group
under soc yet.
-- 
/|/-\/-\          The entire kitchen is		Jerusalem
 |__/__/_/        still full of strange hamantaschen
 |warren@         And the custodian
/ nysernet.org    is starting to get worried.
From: ehrlich@bimacs.BITNET (Gideon Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Vegetarianism & Halacha (was Re: Following Sedar tradition)
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:07:53 GMT
Organization: Math department, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, ISRAEL

In article <1728@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:

>
>Even if "simcha" does require eating meat, on Shabbat the requirement
>is "oneg", I don't know of any statement that "oneg" requires meat as
>some think "simcha" does.
>......     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>/|/-\/-\          The entire world             Jerusalem

  Look at Rambam , about happiness in Sukot , ( sorry but I can't
remember the exact reference ) Rambam writes there that one should eat
mead in order to be happy but if meat and wine do not makes his wife
happy he should buy her new clothes instead so she will be happy on
the Hollyday. It seemed clear from that Rambam that eating meat and
drinking wine are of no importance as such, they are only instruments
for happiness, and if one do not like meat he should not eat that on
hollydays.

 Shalom    GHideon   EREZ YISRAEL


Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Subject: Re: Does the Bible have any contradictions
Organization: AT&T Migration Systems
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:45:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.202538.12793@news.cso.uiuc.edu> levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
>In the Bible it says at one point that pi = 3. That is, they
>are discussing some circular object (in reference to the history
>of the time of King Solomon, I think) and say that it has a 
>radius of one unit and a circumference of three units. Unfortunately
>I cannot be more specific, as I do not remember the exact reference.

This is talking about the "sea" or giant bowl Solomon built for
washing in the Temple.  I think that it was used to hold the water
that the priests took out with cups to wash their hands and feet.
The circumference is given at thirty amah and the width as 10.

HOWEVER

1.  The dimensions are approximate as it is just being given as
history.

2.  A three dimensional bowl has a thickness so that the
circumferance could be along the inner surface.

3.  A thread that appeared here a while ago used the numerical
value of the word used (gematriah) and the difference in the
spelling of the two places it appears to get the exact fractional
part.

So far I haven't seen any valid contradictions posted.  The one
from the creation had a valid answer hidden among its sarcasm.

_______________________________________________________________
| Hillel Markowitz        |    Im ain ani li mi li             |
| H_Markowitz@att.com     |    Veahavta Leraiecha Kamocha      |
|_________________________|____________________________________|
From: afwendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WENDY WARTNICK)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: On Surpassing Einstein
Summary: Modesty ==/== Silence....
Keywords: Try, Try Again...
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:27:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.7APR199209271280
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <ktvik0INNl3r@girtab.usc.edu>, jodar@girtab.usc.edu (Nicholas Jodar) writes...
>In article <9204051240.AA25502@relay1.UU.NET> MASH@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il:
> 
>[Hayim Hendeles:]
>>>Any comparison to the secular world is totally misleading. I may
>>>not have the intelligence of Albert Einstein, for example, but I can
>>>probably learn all that he knew.

Sure, but how much of that will you UNDERSTAND?  I HAVE read much of 
Einstein's work, but I surely do not understand it all!  Much of what he 
wrote involved great leaps of intuition and comprehension (and imagination)
, and much of it is downright weird from our everyday point of view (
relativity).  

Learning "all that he knew" (theorized) is easy, understanding its 
implications is hard.

			wendy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: jgoldber@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: explanation of the eg
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 11:49:43 GMT

In article <1738@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:
>In <1992Apr9.1659.8671@execnet> ken.halfon@execnet.com (ken halfon) writes:
>
>>    I was wondering if anyone had an explanation of the symbolism of the
>>egg on the Seder plate?
     .............
>
>Some families also eat hard-boiled eggs dipped in salt-water (the one
>on the Seder plate is roasted, but it's usually hard-boiled first, I
>think a raw egg would explode if roasted).  This probably symbolizes
>the destruction of the Temple, which happened on Tisha B'Av, which
>always falls on the same day of the week as the first day of Pesach.

    I must say, Warren, I admire your self-control...
From: unterspa@novavax.UUCP (Diane Unterspan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: passover customs
Summary: apologize for the repititions, I am new to this process of posting and kept getting error messages, I will get better in time.
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:48:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL



Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: slater@cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Slater)
Subject: Jewish Students Assaulted
Summary: Two Jewish students were assaulted by a Muslim man.
Keywords: Jews, Assault
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:49:54 GMT


                          Jewish Students Assaulted

                            For Immediate Release
           [N.B. This press release was written by Howard Rosenburg.]


	URBANA, IL -- Two Jewish students, University of Illinois Senior in
Engineering Rob Slater, 22, and William Dubin, 23, were assaulted on Saturday
by a participant at an Islamic Culture Society event entitled "Jerusalem: Still
Under Zionist Occupation."  The assailant, a Muslim man in his 30's, was
selling books on the University of Illinois campus, where the program was
taking place.

	The assailant was approached by the two students who had noticed that
he was selling anti-semitic materials.  Titles included "The Case Against the
Little White Slaver" by Henry Ford Sr., "The Greatest Hoax of the Twentieth
Century" by Arthur Butz, and "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion." All three
of these works contain highly antisemitic material.

	The Jewish students wanted to take a photograph of the table to show
others that these materials were still being bought and sold.  When they
attempted to take the photograph, they were informed by the assailant that he
would have no part in it.

	The students proceeded to explain that why they were allowed to take
the photographs and why they wanted to take the pictures. When the picture was
finally taken, the assailant responded by wrestling for the camera and finally
breaking it by throwing it onto the ground. He then began punching Dubin, the
photographer, and chasing him into the lecture hall.

	The assailant then went back outside and punched Slater four times
sending him to the ground.  He then tried to leave the scene claiming that
his "civil rights of privacy were violated and that he would do it again
[strike the Jewish students]" given the opportunity.  His efforts to leave
the scene failed when another student verbally detained him.

	A few minutes later, the University Police arrived to restore order
and to take statements. The matter has been turned over to the State's
Attorney for further action.

	While the camera sustained serious damage, neither Slater nor Dubin
were seriously injured.

--
 Rob Slater                                     | "When all else fails, try
 Choices/Tapestry -- Dept. of Computer Science  |  reading the directions!"
 University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign       |    --Rob's guiding
 Internet: rslater@uiuc.edu                     |      philosophy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: pdm@idiotix.cs.uoregon.edu (peter d. mark)
Subject: Re: Lubavitcher Rebbe's 90th birthday
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:10:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.040307.29065@cs.tulane.edu> david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (David Kaufmann) writes:
}
}
}Today, 11 Nissan, marks the 90th birthday of the Lubavitcher Rebbe,
}Shlita. In honor of his innumerable contributions to Jewish education,
}welfare and Ahavas Yisroel in over 40 years of leadership, may all
}Jews share in the zchus of wishing him a refuah shlamah. Through our
}individual furtherance of learning Torah and observance of mitzvot,
}may we all also merit to participate, in this season of the first
}redemption, in the final redemption, with the coming of Moshiach
}Tzidkenu, when ALL Jews, everywhere, will return to Israel and
}Jerusalem and there will be true peace among all mankind.
}David Kaufmann
}INTERNET:	david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu



did anyone catch the NPR story (monday 4/13) that described how many 
followers of rabbi scheerson were convinced not only that he IS the
messiah but that he would ANNOUNCE that he was, in fact, the messiah
on his birthday?  it mentioned, among other factors, that 90 held 
special numerological significance.  the story described how many 
children were utterly convinced that their leader was/is the messiah, 
and raised the question of how these children might become disillusioned 
when they discovered how they had been deceived. 

comments, anyone?

peter
pdm@cs.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: explanation of the eg
From: s0480@desire.wright.edu
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:13:36 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Wright State University 
Summary: Some traditional and Midrashic explanations of why we have an egg on a 

In article <1992Apr9.1659.8671@execnet>, ken.halfon@execnet.com (ken halfon) writes:
> Hi,
> 
>     I was wondering if anyone had an explanation of the symbolism of the
> egg on the Seder plate?
> 
    I have a few possible answers to that question.  First, I am told that the
egg somehow represents freedom (a chicken freeing himself out of the egg? Oh,
those Midrashim!) and Pesach is a celebration of freedom from bondage in Egypt.
Another explanation is that the egg represents life.  A booklet put out by the
Orthodox Union states "..commemorating the festival sacrifice in the Temple. 
An egg is used because it is a traditional food for mourners, reminding us of
the destruction of the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem."
    Finally, there's my favorite interpretation. The egg is the only food that
that gets tougher, rather than softer, when cooked.  This illustrates how the
Jewish people have, throughout the centuries, have only gotten stronger in the
face of persecution.
    Glad to be of help.
   			Michael E. Kotler 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (Don Gertler)
Subject: Re: Vegetarianism & Halacha (was Re: Following Sedar tradition)
Reply-To: <gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (Don Gertler)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:48:59 GMT

warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:
> Beliefs, even if they contradict the Torah, are not AZ unless they
> involve other gods.  Of course beliefs that contradict the Torah are
> to be avoided, but we still should keep our averot straight.
 
How does this apply to the discussion of homosexuality in halacha? :-)

-Don Gertler
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: jgoldber@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Kosher
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:23:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr07.174957.2706@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss) writes:
>A friend of mine is looking for Kosher meat in Columbia, South Carolina.
>Can anybody help?
>
>Nabil Idriss

  Have them call the Columbia chabad house at (803) 782-1831.
From: fitch@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Chris the wonder Scout)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Scouts and Scouters
Summary: addresses and information
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:35:58 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Dear sir or ma'am,
My name is Chris Fitch.  I am a 21 year old history major at Colorado State
University in the United States.  I am a Boy Scout leader and am trying to
theach my Scouts about the world they live in.

I hate to impose on you, and I appreciate any help you could give me.  I 
need an address for the Israeli Scout Association, which is called "Hitachdut
Hatsofim Vehatsofot be Israel", or for any Scout or leader you may know who
could help me in my endeavor.

In addition, I could use this same information regarding the French Jewish
Scout Association "Les Eclaireuses et Eclaireurs de France"; or to learn 
whether Israel has assisted Scouting among Soviet Jews in the Evrey A.O. or
elsewhere in Russia.  Do Scout organizations exist for Jews elsewhere?

I appreciate your time and assistance, and apologize for the imposition.
Chris Fitch
From: mcwg9235@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marsha Cook Woodbury)
Subject: address needed in Haifa
Summary: feitelson
Keywords: dina
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:12:50 GMT

If anyone could send me the address (e-mail) of
Prof. Dina Feitelson at the Univ. of Haifa, in
Israel, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks.
-- 
Marsha Woodbury    marsha-w@uiuc.edu
"A simile is like a metaphor"
Home of the University of Illinois--yes, Urbana-Champaign