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From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April)
Subject: Re: X-Judas/PAD ?'s
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:12:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.190235.3284@news.columbia.edu> kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka) writes:
>>Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>>
>>>Me, I'm lobbying to have a bit in Spider-Man 2099 during issue #6-7, when
>>>Spider-Man goes "Downtown"...an underworld section of New York that is
>>>seedy, run down, and similar to NY of today.  And I wanted to have a 
>>>sign stuck on a wall in the background with the words "THE MUTANT TRAITOR--
>>>MAY YOU ROT IN HELL" above and below, and a picture in the middle--and the
>>>picture is obscured by graffiti.  
>
>I think we got our first conformation that the 2099 timeline is the same
>one as Bishop's.  I wonder if we're going to see much of the XES in it?
>(Bishop, I believe, was an XES cop.  I'm not sure what XES stands for,
>though.)

I think it's XSE, and I don't recall what it stands for ever being mentioned,
unlike the many * boxes we would normally see in Marvel explaining the acronym
for every organization in existence in the Marvel U. (SHIELD,  AIM, FBI, IRS, 
etc. etc. ad nauseum)

>//Karthik

The Walrus


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From: jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Gad)
Subject: Re: Missing Persons (Was: Re:Amanda Sefton)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:01:32 GMT

jmw20@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Joshua Michael Wolf) writes:


[Entire earlier convesation about the missing Amanda Sefton deleted]

>Warpies? Who are they?

[More Amanda comments removed]

Well, the Warpies were the mutated children created as a result of the 
Jaspers Warp.

What you you don't know about the Jaspers Warp?  The Jaspers Warp was a 
breach in reality created by a British politician by the name of Sir James
Jasper.  All of this was featured in Captain Britain, and the Captain
Britain Trade Paperback begins with Brian and Betsy dealing with the aftermath
of the Jaspers Warp Saga.  Several characters currently in Excalibur made 
thier first appearances during the JWS, including Satyrnyne (The Omniversal 
Majestrex, not the crazed psychopath), The Crazy Gang, and Linda McQuillan 
(Captain U.K.).

The Warpies were introduced in the CB-TPB (Well, technically in the CB issues
that eventually got reprinted into the TPB, but you know what I mean...) as
a side effect of the Jaspers Warp.  These children were all highly mutated in
a great number of strangee ways.  The RCX (a British internal security agency
that was created in the wake of STRIKE's [the UK's version of SHIELD] collapse)
took responsibility for the  Warpies and convinced Cap to allow them to stay
at Braddock Manor.  However, poor Brian had an extremely hard time dealing 
with the sudden numbers of children wandering around his home, and when he 
recieved a call from Doctor Crocodile regarding his brother Jamie, he and 
Meggan left.  (Remember how Cap was acting in Excalibur 43(?) with the Technet
running around the lighthouse?  Same deal.) 

Anyway, that was more or less the last we heard of the Warpies for a long time
until somebody somewhere (help me out here guys, what issue of what book am I
talking about?) mentioned "...The Warpies, formerly in the care of the now 
defunct RCX, are currently being cared for on Muir Isle..."  or something very
similar.  Which makes us wonder where they are now.  Since we know that Muir 
Isle is a crater, and that Braddock Manor is now being used by Excalibur, and
for that matter that Mastermind (the organic computer under Braddock Manor, not
the Illusionist) is dead and the RCX supposedly out of work, there is DEFINITELY
a story we haven't been told yet....


Jon Gad
jng53092@uxa.cso.uiuic.edu

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From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Scott Lobdell, Spelling, and You
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:21:33 GMT

I really, honestly would like to believe that there's some hidden
meaning for the word "parameter" that I don't know about that
would make its usage in the latest Uncanny X-Men correct with respect
to its context.  There isn't.  "Perimeter" -- that's three e's and an i.

(At least no one got taken down by killer "phermones).
-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)


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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SilverFang Ahroun)
Subject: Re: Wha happened?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:26:54 GMT

nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) writes:

>In article <81567@ut-emx.uucp> aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:

>>	Uhm, pardon the stupid question  (I mean, we're talkin' Marvel
>>here), but what do you suppose happened to that small nuclear arsenal
>>Cable was toting around last issue?  He somehow seemed more formidible as a
>>one man South American death squad as opposed to "Guy with a gun."

>Well, personally, I think he cached it somewhere.  I mean, all that weaponry
>(ooh, it jus' gives me chills thinkin' about it!)  would make it a pain in the
>butt to covertly infiltrate that place--not to mention being a pain in the butt
>to tote around!

And I personally think that one shot was more a dig at Rob Liefeld than a 
serious shot of Cable...

Axly
From: mikecap@planet10.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr)
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Subject: Re:Jean and Scott's son
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:09:37 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
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Summary: No spoilers here


I didn't want to let it out, what with the crossover still going on and all but


I AM JEAN AND SCOTT'S SON,  OK!!!?!?!?


-- 
"A finely tempered nature longs to escape from his noisy cramped surroundings
into the silence of the high mountains where the eye ranges freely through the
still pure air and fondly traces out the restful countours apparently built for
eternity."  - Albert Einstein    ***E-mail mikecap****
From: rlcarr@animato.network23.com (Rich Carreiro)
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Subject: Apocalypse
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:46:39 EDT
Organization: The Other Side of Life

(1) Who/what is Apocalypse?
(2) What are his powers?
(3) Was he born a mutant (how long ago?) or was he created?
(4) Where does he get the alien technology he uses?

-- 
Rich Carreiro                                  Home: (401)841-8514
rlcarr@animato.network23.com
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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: THE CLAREMONT FILES (Doug & Betsy)
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:29:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.035926.29653@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>That isn't a set-back in Obscure Trivia Lad's powers.  That's his
>unique weakness:  the complete inability to remeber select important
>facts whenever he either wants or needs to remember them.  He
>can't help it, that's just the way he is.

Sigh...ah for the days of the pre-Reorg continuity where we had Jayembee
in his alter-ego as Obscure Trivia Man who did remember such when
wanted and needed...

"Okay folks, here's your first question...What doesRING!" "SEX!"
"Beg pardon?" "SEX! SEX is the answer! SEX!SEX!SEX!"
"No, I'm afraid that's incorrect."
"Okay, the Magna Carta, then."  --Cowboy Wally's Trivia Lotto
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
Organization: Freshman, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:03:14 -0400 
From: Chris Holly <maverick+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Theory: Cable has a daughter!
	<93286@netnews.upenn.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 15-Oct-92 Re: Theory:
Cable has a dau.. Patrick McClue@eniac.sea (486)

> In article <1992Oct14.211802.6788@abo.fi> MHANNINEN@finabo.abo.fi (Mika
> H{nninen Inf) writes:
> >
> >Oookay. Cable does *NOT* have a son. He was talking about
> whassisface...the new
> >weapon X. Now I remember - Kane! 



> Thanks to you and others for clearing this up...but like I said before, I
> don't buy X-force so I didn't know...this thing about a son was mentioned in
> a NM book.

> Now we don't have to worry about Cable junior...but was anything ever said
> about Rictor's father?


> Patrick


The young man in question is not Kane, it's Tyler(and by the way, Tyler
is dead.)
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The DARKFORCE (was: Fallen Angels)
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:57:31 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Bw3A3n.At6@ns1.nodak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>Wait, wait, wait.  Obscure Trivia Lad is confused.  Since when is
>>Vanisher's powers Darkforce-related?  Obscure Trivia Lad remembers
>>Vanisher once being trapped in mid-teleport by Darkforce (he was
>>hit by Darkstar, Obscure Trivia Lad thinks), but doesn't remember
>>any reference to Vanisher's powers being Darkforce-based.  But,
>>then, that could just be Obscure Trivia Lad.
>
>Hmm... once again, I find myself in the position of assissting Obscure Trivia
>Lad. You ask me, I should start getting part of the merchandising royalties.

Sure, but just remember:  Any percentage of 0 is 0.  And I have my
doubts that *I* would pay for Obscure Trivia Lad merchandise.

Oh, no!  Obscure Trivia Lad must not be feeling very well.  That
looks vaguely like Obscure Trivia Lad using a FIRST-PERSON pronoun!
Something's wrong!  Maybe Obscure Trivia Lad is having trouble 
dealing with this death thing...

>No, the Vanisher's powers are not Darkforce based. Neither, for that matter,
>are Nightcrawler's. And I don't believe that the Vanisher was stuck in
>Darkforce, oh lo, those many issues ago, but a certain incarnation of the
>Well of Worlds (see the Nightcrawler limited series for more info on that).

Wow!  Obscure Trivia Lad actually remembered SOMETHING right!  Well,
not COMPLETELY right, but Obscure Trivia Lad at least remembered
that Vanisher's powers weren't Darkforce-based.  That's gotta count
for something, right?

Ah, well, it looks like it might be about time Obscure Trivia Lad
went back and skimmed through OHOTMUDE.  Y'know, refresh
Obscure Trivia Lad's memory and all that...

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: Rogue pregnant...
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:14:34 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <9OCT199208215703@jane.uh.edu> chem8w@jane.uh.edu (Councilman,
David A.) writes:
>In article <21072@plains.NoDak.edu>, dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
 writes...
>>I, at least, have written a story where Rogue gets pregnant. For that matter,
>>I've written a lot of stuff about Rogue, the X-Men, and anything else that
>>catches my attention, usually with my character Darwin thrown in for
>>commentary. And, no, they haven't been published. They're my exercise for
>>myself to keep me in practice with writing, and have fun with areas of
>>the MU I consider to need shaking up.
>
>Why not post/arrange an FTP site for them?

Okay, hold on. You want me, a guy who can't even get the fan club newsletter
he's in charge of, out of his local network, to post up some thousand pages
of story to the net, further throwing the Stripe into obscurity? Gah!

Thanks for the interest. Tell you what...

I just may. Drat!

Grr.
Ouch.
Darn.
That's the end...

"Hi, my name's... uh, David Henry..."
"Get lost, I'm busy." --Richard Darwin

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
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Subject: Re: Theory: Cable has a daughter!
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:49:18 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <92596@netnews.upenn.edu>, dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue) writes:
> I know this was a joke, but it did remind me of something....
> When CAble was first introduced, he said that he had a son missing (same
> time that Rictor said something about his father...whom we still know
> nothing about....)
> 
> Where does Cable's son fit into this?  Maybe Stryfe/Cable is Jean and Scott's
> kid and Sinister is cable's kid changed by Apocalypse....very unlikely, but
> I won't be surprised if those writers do something like this...maybe not
> now since I said it public...and they always change  the story when their
> ideas are no longer "secret".

No, Cable's "son" turned out not to be his son at all.  He was kind of
adopted, but then Stryfe took him into the LNH.. oops, sorry, the MLF,
and he got killed in a mission (presumably the reason for such
animosity between the two - apart from Stryfe being an evil future
version).  My opinion was that this was one part of Cable's past that
was retconned away when they decided to make him a time traveller.

                                   -Drizzt
 
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Western Kentucky University    And the bank shall repossess it." 
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From: danl@next11pg2.wam.umd.edu (Shade the Changing Dude)
Subject: Re: Illyana's Powers
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 06:24:15 GMT

In article <BvqGI9.3xM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> debg@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ginsberg  
deborah) writes:
> On the side, I'd love to see Illyana come back - the teen-ager  
variation.
> If she would join up w/ Kitty again, it could lead to some interesting
> Excalibur stories.
>  
>  
It would. And, ignoring Scott f---ing Lobdell's issues of Excalibur,  
Illyana could easily still be around in her teen-aged variation.  She just  
decided that she had some things to take care of business-wise in Limbo  
(after all, there was a demon revolt going on there) and did not need her  
friends and teammates getting in the way, so she just pulled a younger  
version of herself from Limbo, left her in her stead so no one would miss  
her, and went to spend some time cleaning things up.  Once she takes care  
of things, she can come back if she feels like it.  Sounds good to me.   
Heck, since limbo has such screwed up time, the Lobdell issues could take  
place at some conveniently inconsequential time....
Anyway, It would be nice to see a well-written Illyana again, and I think  
Nicieza might just have what it takes.

		--Dan'L
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From: antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes)
Subject: Re: Cable=Stryfe
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics, Penn State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:52:17 GMT

john j park writes strife = cable because:
> And of course, they look almost exactly alike (do they have oppos\
>ite cybernetic eyes?)

Well, of course they have opposite eyes-- Strife calls Cable "Mirror brother",
so they'd HAVE to have opposite glowing eyes... try looking in a mirror
to see...

Now the question is, are they going to invoke some sort of "Seige Mirrorous"
which was used to create Strife... or maybe Cable in the future leapt
through the Seige Perilous and had a rogue-type effect, splitting into
two selves... no, even marvel isn't that... well... hmmm....

sandy
alex@astro.isas.ac.jp
etc. etc.
From: c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cyclops & Bishop
Date: 9 Oct 1992 03:08:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3f.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Optic blasts, bio-blast absorption

In article <1992Oct8.213832.28818@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue) writes:
>>It seems he is a very good battery and stores unlimited amounts of energy
>>or writers seem to have forgotten this.
>
>I think they have forgotten/retconned-it-away.
>You make the call...

Hmmm, has Cyclops been out of contact of sunlight for any extended
periods of time lately?  Not that I know of...

Not that I'm denying what you said above. :)

Coffee, Hell I'm just being REALLY optimistic
-- 
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Subject: Re: X-Cutioner's Song Part 5
From: mbharper@acs.harding.edu
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:21:39 -0500
Reply-To: mbharper@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

In article <70537@hydra.gatech.EDU>, vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.) writes:
>Well, it's time for some more gripes and spoilers from x-cutioner's song...
>
>
>The name on the slip of paper was Apocalypse, apparently.  Why was Val so
>surprised?
>
	If the name on the slip of paper was Apocalypse, then why is Val having
information gathered on Stryfe...she also says that Mr. Sinister gave her this
clue(to look for Stryfe).
>
From: seawoocl@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Astral plane?
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:29:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: master.1b2qr1INN2v4
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In article <9210072109.AA12976@PCS.CNU.EDU> rglass@pcs.cnu.edu (Randall  
Glass) writes:
>  4: bring back 'Bella Donna'.  i know of course that she's not
>     really dead-->maybe she's trapped on the astral plane.
> 
Question: wasn't the astral plane destroyed in Uncanny 280. When Forge  
used Psylocke's psych-knife 2 disrupt the nexus, didn't Prof X say 
"I felt it destroyed -- the shadowking, the astral plane, everything" or  
something like that. I have the issue somewhere at home, but I would swear  
that's what he said.

-Cheetah  ---  " My name is Prince and I am funky
                 My name is Prince, the one and only. "
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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:37:21 GMT

cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  ) writes:

>While you have a valid point PAD, simply put I do not know how
>successful Marvel would be trying to seperate this new X-title from the
>others.

>I think that even if the X-Men 2099 starts off different from the X-men in
>every way, eventually it will be messed around with and that is when the
>problems will occur.

I'm sure they would eventually make an attempt to tie them together.
Yeah. I bet they try a X-time X-over!
Hoo-Hah!!!
Just stand back and watch the continuity BURN!!

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Ideas to help the mutants (was: Re: X-cutioner's Song)
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:39:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <81203@ut-emx.uucp> aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:
>
>	Uh, Kev.  You've got yourself some great ideas here, but there
>are problems.  You don't honestly believe Marvel would 
>	A)  Actually let a character as popular as Gambit be written off
>	     as a villan and possibly killed...

Of course not!

>	B)  Actually let a character as popular as Cable just disappear from
>	     the Marvel Universe as a whole...

Of course not!

>	C)  Actually tie up every single dangling plotline from here to
>		the mid-70's, including Wolverine,...

Of course not!

>	Personally, in response to B, have you read the Cable miniseries
>development!!!  The way I see it, give Cable and Wolverine their OWN PERMANENT
>SERIES, thus removing these folks from the ranks of the X-Whatevers while

Actually, Wolvie _HAS_ his own permanent series.  It's called Wolverine. :)
As for Cable, _he_ will have his own permanent series, coming out in the summer
of 1993.  (And about time!  Three cheers for Cable!)

>Why the $#^%*#$% hasn't anyone helped Xavier with his legs, or fitted

Lilandra did, way back when.  :)  But seriously, I don't think the X-Men have
had the time.  Or the people.  The Morlock Healer died before they could get 
his help, and Forge left in a huff because he thought Storm didn't love him, 
so there's really no one right now that can help him!  Moira _said_ that he 
was never going to walk again in X-Factor #70!  (I realize that she's a 
geneticist--that's why she can't do anything.)  Hank's a biochemist, so he 
can't do much either.  Of course, we could always bring Lilandra and her oh-
so-convenient Shi'ar technology back... Oh, wait!  The Shi'ar are really mad 
at Earth right now!!!  Oops...

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"Can we get HBO?  And maybe the Disney Channel for Rahne?"
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From: 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON)
Subject: Re: Alpha Flight Appearances
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:06:44 GMT

In article <71331@hydra.gatech.EDU> vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.) writes:
>From: vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.)
>Subject: Alpha Flight Appearances
>Date: 15 Oct 92 14:07:46 GMT
>In article <910252m.19.719092183@ace.acadiau.ca> 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON) writes:
>>    Seriously, though, I have read practically EVERY appearance of the 
>>Flight in any comic anywhere. I've even read the appearance in Crystar. Rest 
>
>What issue of Crystar did Alpha Flight appear in?  I've got the Nightcrawler
>issue (i told y'all i'm an X-Men completist :-), but i hadn't heard of the
>AF appearance.
>
>JRjr
>
>
>-- 
>'Let's not pretend to justify, Rather amend where treasures lie.  Straight
>through the heart peace can be found.  That's where you start, not all 
>around...'  Extreme -- Rest In Peace
>#####  vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU  ########  Jerry B. Ray, Jr.  ################

FYI, Alpha (or at least, Shaman, Northstar and Puck) appeared in the very 
last issue of Crystar (#11, I believe, but I could be wrong.) They helped 
Crystar in his final confrontation with his brother and the evil 
sorcerer (tm) Zardeth. It was even revealed that Puck had been to 
Crystallium before. (You know, Puck seems to have been just about 
everywhere at some point in his long life. I'd LOVE to see a mini-series 
with this guy.)

GO JAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Can't help it. They're based in Canada and I'm a 
Canadian patriot.)

DMK
Acadia University, Wolfville, Nova Scotia, Canada.

"Let the foils be brought, the gentlemen willing and the king hold his 
purpose. I will win for him if I can, if not, I will gain nothing but my 
shame, and the odd hits." - Puck quoting Hamlet in The Crossing Line Saga.