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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: General Midi questions
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:47:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: bbx.45
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <jmw.721886486@tasman> jmw@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (John Mark Williams) writes:
>Perhaps someone out there who has full details on the GM spec could answer
>a couple of questions for me:
>
>1)	if a module receives a note-on message for a currently sounding note
>	on the same channel should the first note be turned off (some Roland
>	synths default to this)?

I would be very surprised if that were the case.  The Kurzweil 1000PX
had a parameter to turn that behaviour on and off.  I tried turning it
on (re-using the same channel for a repeated note) and many patches
sounded downright unnatural.  Consider a slow string pad with long
attack and decay times.  Pressing the key of a note that is still
sustaining would cause that note to be cut off and begin its slow
attack again.  Yuck!

>2)	when a module is using all its available notes, should new
>	notes have priority over currently sounding ones?

I can't speak for GMIDI but different manufacturers pride themselves
on their note stealing algorithms.  Of current equiment on the market,
by and large a new note will always steal an already existing note.
The hard part is to determine which existing note to steal.  Perhaps
the oldest.  Perhaps the note whose decay level is the lowest.  Perhaps
the lowest pitched note will *never* be stolen because the bass is
more noticable.  Some synths will steal individual layers from multi-layer
notes hoping nobody will notice.

I sincerely hope GMIDI doesn't attempt to stifle further progress in
this area.

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From: art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg (NG LING LING)
Subject: Music Time
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:52:09 GMT

Hello. I am new to this group, and I was wondering if anyone knows of
the program: "Music Time", which is supposed to be a music score sheet
processor.

I would like to know what printers it supports ?
Can it do transpositions ?
Can it do playback via MIDI synths ?
etc.
What else would I need to run it ? Minimum 386 ? Ad-lib ? Blaster ?
Galaxy ?

Could you E-mail me if you know ? Thanks.
From: feuling@astroatc.uucp (Lindsay Feuling)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Looking for postscript Treble & Bass clefs
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:42:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI

Hi.
I'm looking for some nice Treble & Bass clef graphics in postscript.  If 
anyone has some code, could you please send it to me?
Thanks
From: spw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Steven P Wilkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: Miracle Piano Teaching system
Date: 20 Nov 1992 12:55:57 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

Sorry about the blank post.

It should have read:

I want to buy a Miracle Piano Teaching system with macintosh
software. I am prepared to pay shipping. Please reply by email.

Steve Wilkinson
spw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au

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From: ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato Ghica)
Subject: radio shack keyboard
Originator: ghica@duck
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:42:16 GMT



Radio Shack makes a $200 digital keyboard. I don't have too many
details on it (most likely no MIDI), but I'd like to know from
anyone who has got it, if they like what they got for the money.

thanks for the info.


-rg
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From: Frank2.Simon@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank2 'Biber' Simon)
Subject: Re: SB-Pro technical info
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:51:21 GMT

Another question to the same soundcard:

If I buy a Soundblaster Pro and I want to connect it with my MIDI-
Piano then I have to buy optional a MIDI-box or is it default.
The second question:
Do I have the possibility to sequence via MIDI with the software give
with SB-Pro ??
Thanks for any information..

Frank
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From: arunc@dragonfly.wri.com (Arun Chandra)
Subject: Re: What is mulaw format?
Keywords: audio format files
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:20:16 GMT

In article <1230@zogwarg.etl.army.mil> mike@zogwarg.etl.army.mil (Mike McDonnell) writes:
>
>Okay, I knew mu-law and a-law were logarithmic, but I still don't know
>what they >>ARE<<.  I would like precise engineering definitions, not
>generalities.  In particular, enough information to be able to write
>my own encoders and decoders.  A reference would do.

here's the answer given in comp.dsp.faq:

-------------------------------------------------------


Q2.6: What is mu-law encoding?  Where can I get source for it?

Mu-law (also "u-law") encoding is a form of logarithmic quantization or
companding.  It's based on the observation that many signals are
statistically more likely to be near a low signal level than a high
signal level.  Therefore, it makes more sense to have more quantization
points near a low level than a high level.  In a typical mu-law system,
linear samples of 14 to 16 bits are companded to 8 bits.  Most
telephone quality codecs (including the Sparcstation's audio codec) use
mu-law encoded samples.

Desktop Sparc machines come with routines to convert between linear and
mu-law samples.  On a desktop Sparc, see the man page for
audio_ulaw2linear in /usr/demo/SOUND/man.

Craig Reese posted the source of similar routines to comp.dsp in August '92.

References:

CCITT Recommendation G.711 (very difficult to follow).

Michael Villeret, et. al, "A New Digital Technique for Implementation
of Any Continuous PCM Companding Law,", IEEE Int. Conf. on Communications,
1973, vol. 1, pp. 11.12-11.17.

MIL-STD-188-113, "Interoperability and Performance Standards
for Analog-to-Digital Conversion Techniques," 17 February 1987.

"TI Digital Signal Processing Applications with the TMS320 Family",
pp. 169-198.

[From Joe Campbell; Craig Reese, cfreese@super.org; Sepehr Mehrabanzad,
sepehr@falstaff.dev.cdx.mot.com]




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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: drakonar@cs.montana.edu (Charles L. Stewart III)
Subject: Re: Are Adlib sound board and Visual Composer software any good?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:39:20 GMT

In article <mmaccorm.49@fox.nstn.ns.ca> mmaccorm@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mike Mac Cormack) writes:
>I was in Radio Shack on the weekend and saw an Adlib sound board and Visual 
>Composer software for $60 (Canadian, no GST) and was wondering if this is a 
>good package.  Has anyone used this software to compose music?  What 
>are its capabilities.  Would you recommend buying this package?  All 
>comments would be appreiated.
>
>Mike Mac Cormack
>Micronav International Inc
>P.O.Box 1523 / 104 Marine Drive
>Sydport Industrial Park,
>Sydney, N.S. Canada B1P 6R7
>Tel: 902-564-8833      Fax: 902-564-8764


IMHO, for an "entry-level" music system this combo is great.  You'll need
some speakers or a headphone but those're cheap.  Some nice things can be
done with the VC program.

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From: ma168faf@imath7.ucsd.edu (Matthew Guarnotta)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: ***Good Keyboards***
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:31:49 GMT
Organization: Univsersity of California, San Diego




DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT A MIDI KEYBOARD FOR UNDER $1000??

HAS ANYBODY HEARD OF THE YAMAHA TX-88???? WHERE CAN ONE GET IT???? IS IT

POSSIBLE TO GET A SPEAKER INCLUDED WITH STEREO OUTPUT OR CONNECT THE 

KEYBOARD TO THE STEREO SYSTEM?????

WHAT KEYBOARD WOULD YOU BUY FOR UNDER $1000.00 INCL. TAX

THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONDS  EMAIL: ma168faf@sdcc16.ucsd.edu


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From: haynes@ivy.cs.unca.edu (Houston Haynes)
Subject: Yamaha SY99 for sale - $3000.00 + shipping
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:28:27 GMT

This unit is in mint condition.  It's 10 months old, and has only
seen studio use.  I'm also throwing in an _Ultimate_ keyboard stand
and Impact non-ATA road case.  

Asking price is $3,000 + shipping.

Houston H. Haynes
Home (704) 253-4272 (Pot luck - Answering machine)
Work (704) 683-9085 (Big Briar, Inc.) Tuesday-Thursday 10:00-6:30 EST

I am selling it beacause I'm building my own controller, which sends
poly-pressure and hi-res pitchbend, and the '99 responds to neither.

Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.audio.pro,rec.music.synth
From: gburton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Garland O Burton)
Subject: Re: Questions about CD mastering
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: inet
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:02:28 GMT

i nominate the question and answer listed in the included references: line
for the groups faq.

it was the answer including info about normalization, 2-4 sec between tracks
ect.

gob

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From: Jon.H.Appleton@dartmouth.edu (Jon H. Appleton)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: GRADUATE STUDY - DARTMOUTH COLLEGE
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:25:31 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Dartmouth College offers a two-year program leading to a Master of Arts
degree in electro-acoustic music. The program combines study in music,
computer science, engineering and music cognition. Three students are
admitted each year with full tuition scholarship and stipendiary
support.  Faculty includes Jon Appleton (Director), Larry Polansky,
Kathryn Alexander, Jamshed Bharucha (Psychology) and Michael Sturge
(Physics).  Seminars include (1) Influence of technology on the roles
of musicians and musical institutions in the 20th century, (2) survey
and analysis of the repertoire of electro-acoustic music, (3) analysis
of musical systems, (4) analysis, synthesis and perception of timbre
and (5) composition of computer music.  Facilities include most
commonly used digital music systems (Synclavier, Digidesign, NeXT,
MIDI, etc.).  Admission based on bachelor's degree in one of the
following: music, physics, computer science or engineering. Ability to
play a musical instrument is expected. Questions regarding the program
should be sent to: jon.appleton@dartmouth.edu. For application
materials e-mail: sodhi@dartmouth.edu or write Graduate Program in
Electro-Acoustic Music, Hopkins Center, Dartmouth College, Hanover, New
Hampshire 03755.  
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From: bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross)
Subject: Cakewalk/Windows question
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Brock University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:38:22 GMT


I've been testing the Cakewalk for Window's demo on my 486.
I was wondering whether any Windows experts could tell me why
Cakewalk tools use windows which have to be incorporated within
the main Cakewalk application. Other Windows applications I've used 
generate windows that are separate from the main application window.

The reason I'm curious about this is because, if Cakewalk (or some other
Windows Midi application) did not do this, then when using Amish Desktop,
you could essentially open ALL the utilities that you need, putting them
around the virtual desk top screen. Amish desktop creates a large virtual
desktop, along with a little icon which lets you click onto the portion of
the virtual window space you want to use.  This would make Cakewalk much
more usable. Without this, I'm constrained to squeeze and overlay utilities
on my small 14" monitor, or close them altogether.

Are there other Windows midi program which use separate windows, or is 
this a technical impossibility with Windows applications in general.

( Waiting for MIDI-compatible OS 2.1... )
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Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Re: What is mulaw format?
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:37:41 -0700
Reply-To: sean@digaudio.byu.edu

One more additional note:  8-bit CODEC mulaw is the standard format for  
low-quality sound files on the NeXT, which has made the term more common  
what with all the NeXT music question stuff.  The NeXT's microphone  
records in mulaw.  The NeXT likewise has utilities, both command-line and  
graphical, for converting between mulaw and 16-bit, 22 or 44KhZ.

--

Sean Luke
Brigham Young University                   MILK:  It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu
From: hardie@admin.und.ac.za (Roy Hardie)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: MOD files
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:12:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: admin.hardie.2.722524322
Distribution: inet
Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc11.admin.und.ac.za

Hi all. I have a whole lot of MOD files (about 60 MEG) =- 700 different 
songs. If there is anyone who would like any of these MOD the e-mail me.

Terry Hardie.
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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.music,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: availability of Xenakis' _Formalized_Music_
Keywords: Iannis Xenakis Formalized Music Polytopes Arts Sciences Alloys the
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:53:45 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI


davisonj@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John M Davison) writes:
>Did Iannis Xenakis' _Formalized_Music_ ever get re-printed like it was
>supposed to be about two years ago?

Xenakis should, I think, set you back about $45 or $50. Pendragon Press
are listed as the publishers, and the leetle ISBN number is 0-945193-24-6.

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Newsgroups: comp.music
From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu (Clark Battle)
Subject: new design
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:18:01 GMT

I have been designing and building string instruments for a couple years
and want to build a midi string instrument I have designed.  I have no
synth/computer *YET* but that is what this post is about. I need advice.
Let me start from the top.
	The instrument is stringed with 4, 12" long guitar e etrings tuned
to a uniform, high pitch.  I will use some kind of pitch to midi device
to generate the notes (which should be fast enough given the length, gauge,
and high pitch of the string).  It will also have a breath controller and
a pitch bend device.
	I intend to buy a 486-33 as soon as I get out of school.  I am
looking for two things: an inexpensive pitch to midi device for 4 (or more)
strings and legato mode capability; and a computer card synth that also
supports legato mode.  Also I will somehow have to get the +-0-5volt 
continuous information to the synth as well.  I dont need a Synth-o-doom
just something that sounds decent (multisound? scc-1?) and costs < $1000.00.
The setup will be used for improvising and composing just for fun.

Does anyone make something like these?

ThanQ.
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: ap@jyu.fi (Patrick Aalto)
Subject: Re: MOD 2 MIDI conversio programs?
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:42:41 GMT

In article <s1070627.721637704@giaeb> s1070627@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Brett Paterson) writes:
>bbs.mirage@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Jerry Lee) writes:
>>Does anyone know if there are any Amiga MOD to Standard Multi-track MIDI
>>conversion programs out there?  Is it possible to convert a MOD to a MIDI
>>file?  Where can I get a program to do that for the IBM PC or MAC?
>>Thanks!

>Probably not, becuase midi is synthesized (computer generated instruments),
>while mods are made up of digitized sounds.

I have made a program called MidiTracker which plays MOD files thru a MIDI
equipment. It is ofcourse very experimental and probably does not do what
Jerry Lee would want (it cannot save MIDI files, for example), but it is
quite amusing, I think. It requires an MPU-401 midi interface. It can
upload the MOD samples to Akai X-7000 or S-700 sampler, so when one has
such an equipment MidiTracker beats all the current module players that
use SoundBlaster by far (sound quality -wise).

Based on MidiTracker it would not be very hard to make a program to save
the conversion result as a midifile instead of playing it. I do not have
time to try that, though. I also made a program that inputs a MIDI file
and a set of samples and outputs a MOD file. There are much more problems
in the conversion this way, so I did not finish it.

I can e-mail MidiTracker (including Turbo-C sources) if someone wants
to look at it. Oh, I almost forgot to mention, it works only on IBM
compatibles and requires VGA and mouse in addition to MPU-401. I never
intended to make it a wide-audience program... :-)

Patrick Aalto
ap@jyu.fi

Newsgroups: comp.music
From: vosse@ruls41.LeidenUniv.nl (Theo Vosse)
Subject: Re: MOD 2 MIDI conversio programs?
Reply-To: vosse@ruls41.LeidenUniv.nl (Theo Vosse)
Organization: Leiden University, Netherlands
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 09:51:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.114241.7527@jyu.fi>, ap@jyu.fi (Patrick Aalto) writes:
|> I have made a program called MidiTracker which plays MOD files thru a MIDI
|> equipment.
|> ...
|> Based on MidiTracker it would not be very hard to make a program to save
|> the conversion result as a midifile instead of playing it. 
|> ...
|> I can e-mail MidiTracker (including Turbo-C sources) if someone wants
|> to look at it.
|> ...
|> Patrick Aalto
|> ap@jyu.fi
|> 

Hi,

I've been trying to write a mod2midi convertor, which saves the music as a
standard multitrack midi file. However, I could not figure out all codes,
so it ended up being somewhat messy. If I could have the MidiTracker source
code, or a (detailled) description of the .MOD-format, I might be able
to finish
the program, and send it on...


	Theo Vosse
	----------
	Unit for Experimental Psychology
	University of Leiden
	The Netherlands
From: jorchard@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Jeff Orchard)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: Scale <=> Frequencies
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:45:17 GMT
Followup-To: jorchard@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

What are the frequency increments for a normal scale?
i.e. doh ray me fah so la tee doh
or of course A B C D E F G A
(I think they're the same???  I am a music theory moron)

Being a mathematician, I tried to divide the octave into 7 notes so
that if you have the frequency of one note, you could multiply or
divide by it by the seventh root of 2 ( 2^(1/7) ) to get one of the
adjacent notes.  Then a frequency times

	  /     \  7
	 |   1/7 |
         |  2    |    = 2         i.e. seven steps/notes
	  \     /

gives the frequency one octave higher.

Well, it just didn't sound right.  I have a feeling that it is more
complicated than that.

Please send replies to jorchard@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
Thanks!

Jeff Orchard
Newsgroups: comp.music
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Subject: Wanted: .MID Christmas Music Files
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:13:52 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. ASSD, Atlanta, GA

I am working on a multimedia project under MS-Win3.1 and need some 
Christmas music in MIDI (.MID) format. Anyone know of an ftp site
with MIDI music files? I looked on sounds.sdsu.edu but they only 
carry .au sound samples...

					Thanks,
					Richard


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From: haynes@ivy.cs.unca.edu (Houston Haynes)
Subject: Korg MIDI Vocoder for sale
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:40:38 GMT


I have a Korg DVP-1 for sale.  
It does vocoding, pitchshifting, MIDI-controlled harmonization, and
chorusing.  It also has an internal wave mode that allows it to function
as a six-voice synth.
 
The unit is in very good condition,
although the manual is a bit tattered.

Please contact me for detailed specs.

Asking price - $300 + shipping.

Thanks.
Houston H. Haynes
From: mvarg@ctp.com (Mike Vargo)
Newsgroups: comp.music
Subject: SOX program
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:19:18 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners

The conversion utility called SOX (for converting .VOC to .AU among others)
can be found at wuarchive.wustl.edu in the
/mirrors/msdos/sound dir as sox4d.zip. Thanks for helping....

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From: cowles@convex.com (John Cowles)
Subject: Sysex on a SoundCanvas
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:06:31 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Has anyone been able to get patch parameter sysex on a SoundCanvas working?
I can set system parameters and I can do bulk dump uploads -
but what I want to do is mute a part - which *ought to be* setting
location 401n08 to 0. I send out F0 41 10 42 12 40 11 08 00 A7 F7 and
nothing happens. Am I missing something or is this a bug? Surely
Roland doesn't expect a performer to stop his music and mute 15 parts by
hand, just because he's got other modules on stage with him besides the
SoundCanvas. I have an SC-155, BTW.

Using the micro-edit faclity I can change the location from 1 to 0 and
the part becomes muted.

Please help if you have any information!!

P.S. I can change the display quite nicely, too - but no one in the
audience can see it :-)
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