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From: forbesm@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Forbes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: How do I copy ROM-libraries to a RAM-card?
Date: 26 Dec 1992 17:28:23 GMT
Organization: OSU CS Outreach Services, Corvallis, Oregon
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.cs.orst.edu

d91-mwd@dront.nada.kth.se (Michael Westlund) writes:

>I'm a proud owner of two ROM cards for my HP-48. Since I also have a
>128k RAM card merged, I cannot use the two ROM cards at the same time.

>Is there any way I can copy the libraries of one of my ROM cards onto
>my RAM card and thus be able to access both of of them at the same
>time - without having to remove my merged RAM card?

If the libraries are small, you can copy them into RAM. If they're a
couple of Sparcom cards, don't waste your time. The libraries are a
full card, almost 128K, and if you *do* copy them you won't have any
space left anyway.

Around here we get pretty adept at the 'rom card shuffle'. It's easy.
Just think of disco dancing (you know, with all the wild arm motions...)
while holding a 48 in one hand. :-) :-) :-)  You won't wear out the
contacts, it only takes a couple of seconds, and you can't really *use*
two libraries at once anyway. All you're really saving is a few
seconds and the need to carry the other card around in the case.

Good luck!
Mark G. Forbes | forbesm@atlantis.cs.orst.edu
Corvallis, OR  | 503 757 8416 work phone    | Hardware R & D
Sparcom Corporation
support@sparcom.com
From: d91-mwd@dront.nada.kth.se (Michael Westlund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: How do I copy ROM-libraries to a RAM-card?
Date: 25 Dec 92 14:45:49 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

I'm a proud owner of two ROM cards for my HP-48. Since I also have a
128k RAM card merged, I cannot use the two ROM cards at the same time.

Is there any way I can copy the libraries of one of my ROM cards onto
my RAM card and thus be able to access both of of them at the same
time - without having to remove my merged RAM card?

Anyone out there with any suggestions?

	/ Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: civan@seanews.akita.com (Chuck Dinsmore)
Subject: AAA Lithium batteries with the HP-48SX
Reply-To: civan@seanews.akita.com (Chuck Dinsmore)
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News + Mail
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 09:56:25 GMT
Summary: Can lithium batteries be used with the HP-48SX?
Keywords: Lithium, batteries, HP-48SX

I recently heard of someone using lithium batteries in their HP-95LX
palmtop and they performed well. Does anyone know if lithium batteries
can be used with the HP-48? If they can be, where can they be obtained?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet)
Subject: Re: The "high price" of the HP48!
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:23:04 GMT

OK here's what I want in a handheld computing device:

	Function plotting
	Serial interface (mainly for modems)
	High programmability (IE Easy to use and powerful)
	Large memory (enough to store fair amounts of sample data/files)
	Multi-line display (Makes programming and serial stuff easier)
	Ability to play games (For my long bus trips home from school)
	Ability to store addresss, names, etc.
	Access to large amounts of free/low cost software
	Low cost.

Now both a DOS based portable or an HP48 are likely to give me all of this,
but with the HP48, the cost in ~$300.00 plus maybe ~100.00 for an expansion
card. For a DOS based notebook, your looking at ~700.00 minimum, plus 
~100.00 for enough software (shareware) to do the modem/funtion plotting
thing and have a programming language more powerful then GWBASIC.
After all that the HP48 is cheaper, still more powerful (IE it'll do
symbolic math the notebook still needs more software), actually fits
in my palm, is sturdy enough to be dropped 6-10ft, and will run longer 
then 6hrs without a battery change. Plus all this software is much more
integeral to the calculator then in an MSDOS based machine, IE Plot the
results of a GWBASIC program on a PC, or how about taking the results
of an integral done by Mathematica and feeding it into a GWBASIC program
that takes sample data from the serial port, etc, etc, etc. The HP does
all of these things easily. The PC has advantages too, but for my needs
and budgets, the HP48 is cheapest machine that can do it all, and as a
bonus it does a ton more that's a ball to play with :-)

+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
+ name : Garth Sweet        +            Ultra-Mini HP 48 FAQ                 +
+ email: sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca +                                                 +
+ phone: 902-865-8987       +     FAQ = (F)requently (A)sked (Q)uestions      +
+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
+ Q: Where can I get HP 48 stuff?  A: EduCalc 1-800-535-9650 24hrs (Can/USA)  +
+ Q: Where can I ftp HP 48 files?  A: seq.uncwil.edu has a ton of stuff       +
+ Q: How do I get files to my HP?  A: You need a cable, check real FAQ        +
+ Q: Where is the real FAQ?        A: At seq.uncwil.edu of course!	      +
+ Q: What's FTP anyway?            A: Mail me!	                              +
+ Q: How do I get help on my HP?   A: Post questions. We don't bite. *SMILE*  +
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: erik@naggum.no (Erik Naggum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Engraving an HP48
Date: 27 Dec 92 13:25:17 GMT
Reply-To: Erik Naggum <enag@ifi.uio.no>

[Garth R Sweet]
|
|   I recently tried to get my name and SIN number engraved on my HP48
|   figuring to make it at least slightly more secure, but when I tried the
|   key houses and engraving shops kept turning me away, saving that most
|   plastics will melt when they try to engrave it, hence they won't even try.

The front of the HP48 is metal, and I asked a jeweler to engrave my name
above the "Scientific Expandable" text.  Low price for a neat job: the
name stands out from the grey front cover in silver-like lettering.

Best regards,
</Erik>
From: James_Cook@nesbbx.rain.COM (**)
Subject: VCR Plus codes...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27a beta (Nov 30 1992)
Date: 24 Dec 92 08:05:15 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System


Regarding the VCR Plus codes:
     
How are these numbers encoded?  I spent an hour or so looking them over
and it is not readily apparent to me how these numbers work.  Obviously
they encode the channel number, time, duration and day of the week. Even
though a VCR Plus box is only $50, I'd be interested in using my '48 to
program the VCR.
     
          Jim
     

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: calla@ecf.toronto.edu (CALLA DOMENICO A)
Subject: Re: ARKANOID is here! (from France)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:37:24 GMT


Does this game work on a 48SX without any expansion cards?
If so, how do I get my 48sx to recognize the library? (I've
I've tried the procedure in the manual to no avail)

Thanks


-- 
Dom Calla                 ------------------------------------------------
University of Toronto      "Remove disk, spit on it, then retry command"
Electrical Engineering                 - Windows User's Manual, p.56
<calla@ecf.utoronto.ca>   ------------------------------------------------
From: forbesm@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Forbes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Engraving an HP48
Date: 25 Dec 92 00:00:08 GMT
Organization: OSU CS Outreach Services, Corvallis, Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.cs.orst.edu

sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca (garth r sweet) writes:


>	I recently tried to get my name and SIN number engraved on my HP48
>figuring to make it at least slightly more secure, but when I tried the
>key houses and engraving shops kept turning me away, saving that most
>plastics will melt when they try to engrave it, hence they won't even try.
>Has anyone else had this problem? How do you mark your calculators, or do
>you, I figure most people are like me in that after they shell hundreds
>of dollars for these supper calcs, they like to put thier name on them.
>Maybe I just have to find the right shop.

Heat works best. The case is made of a nylon/ABS blend that will melt quite
nicely. A soldering iron, carefully wielded by an artiste (as opposed to 
any old fumble-fingered engineer like me...) can do a credible job of
engraving whatever you want. If you want to get really tricky, find someone
who has a Metcal soldering iron and use the unbelievably-tiny-size tip.

Your local tattoo artist may have some suggestions. If you're just into
a workmanlike job, you can do it yourself with an iron, or get a set of
lettering punches and heat them up to about 350 degrees. That'll work
just fine. Don't overheat the punches or they'll lose their temper and
turn to mushrooms the next time you whack a piece of cast iron.

I'd recommend *strongly* against using a vibratory engraver. The level
of vibration is such that I would be concerned about damaging the 
display or electronics. Yes, I *know* it's an HP, but that display is
still made of glass. 

The rotary engravers will in fact turn the plastic into putty if run at
a high speed. If you can get an engraver to turn the speed way down
then it should work fine. The idea is to cut at such a slow speed that
you don't build up lots of frictional heat. The ABS starts to soften
at about 250 F, I think, so you need to be careful.

Good Luck!

Mark G. Forbes | forbesm@atlantis.cs.orst.edu
Corvallis, OR  | 503 757 8416 work phone    | Hardware R & D
Sparcom Corporation
forbesm@sparcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: csmith@student.business.uwo.ca (chris smith)
Subject: Greek alphabets & ROM chip for stats.
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:34:15 GMT

Is there a way to get Greek alphabets that are not found on the HP's
keypad? (eg. Ksi, Zeta, Psi, Phi, Sigma, ...)

Does anyone know whether there are any ROM cards for stats that
cover Linear Structural Equations Modelling?
(covariance structure analysis, factor analysis, multiple regression,...)

Any help in this matter in very much appreciated. Thanks!

csmith@student.business.uwo.ca (chris smith)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: sourada@iastate.edu (Steven D Ourada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Well? Where's the cool stuff from FRANCE?
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:11:27 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1992Dec28.110903.42634@urz.unibas.ch> ghilardi@urz.unibas.ch writes:

>In article <1hjgtgINN1ph@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>, ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>> Well? where is all the loot? We were promised some cool games and things...
>> I don't see anything new.
>>                                                       
>That is also my opinion. Where is that cool stuff ? Where is Arkanoid, 
>Boulder Dash and the other nifty things ? OK, Tron II+ is nice, but we want
>the other programs too, especially since we were promised to get them by
>Xmas.

"Hey, where's all that stuff that you're providing free to me, that you
recieve no compensation for? One cool program isn't enough, gimme more!!"

Get off this guy's back, he doesn't _owe_ you these programs. Instead of
complaining about what you didn't get, say "thanks" for what you did get.

Tron II+ is quite good, by the way. Thanks to those who provided it.

                 Later,
                   Steven Ourada

-- 
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Steven Ourada -- sourada@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: The "high price" of the HP48!
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:03:19 CST

In article <PHR.92Dec30220240@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec26.052935.17881@doug.cae.wisc.edu> kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:
>   In article <PHR.92Dec25155736@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
>   >    I agree.  I do not understand those who buy the Casios and the TIs because
>   >    the 48 is just "too expensive".
>   >
>   >I felt that paying my rent was more important than having a fancy
>   >calculator.  
>
>   Paying tuition for a four year public college is going to run you at least
>   $10,000.  Four year tuition at, say, MIT can easily run you $75,000.
>
>Are you suggesting that since you're already facing crushing bills
>from tuition, you might as well drop another $200+ for a flashy
>calculator?

YES!

But I wouldn't look at it as being a "flashly calculator."  I'd look at it
as being a time saving device, just like a word processor.

>  By that logic you might as well buy a house now,
>given what your rent payments are going to add up to over the
>next few decades.  Clearly you have no experience of the economic
>realities faced by most college students.  Most are more concerned
>with how they're going to pay for next week's groceries than
>whether their calculator can outcompute a Vax 780 or only a Vax 750.

Uh huh.  

[Paragraph about me and where my money goes deleted because it sounds a
little too arrogant for your "poor starving college student" set up]

Letsee... a HP-48 is $275.  Let's say you're making $4 an hour take home
pay... that's 70 hours of work for the 48.  I think my 48 has saved _me_ 70
hours of work over the past three years, and I think they can for other
people as well.

Owning a house right now would be nice, but the kind that I'd want to own
would probably end up costing me more in property taxes than what I pay for
housing right now.  Owning one also wouldn't save me any time.

					---Joel Kolstad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: csmith@student.business.uwo.ca (chris smith)
Subject: Editing HP files on a PC.
Organization: Hewlett Packard
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:28:06 GMT
Summary: Help

Can any of the experts out there please let me know
if there are any files for the PC for editing HP files
after being transfered from the HP.

Any FTP sites carrying these files?

Thanks!

csmith@student.business.uwo.ca (chris smith)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr S J Liddicott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Same old questions...
Date: 30 Dec 1992 14:53:49 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <2b3e1774.2519comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.mmorgan@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Captain Morgan) writes:
>Why not send the following message every 10 messages automatically?
> 
>Before you post, read the FAQ.  It is located....

yes...

I think the next release of TRN or RN or whatever should be able to recognise
article types called "FAQ" and present a choice of reading FAQ every time
you read the group.  It will only delete FAQ class articles when they are
replaced by a newer version.

what say ye all?
I'll talk to my sysadmin who can forward it to the news maintainers.
Or I'm sure Mr Spafford would be able to have it incorporated.
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| Sam   Jam|"Never underestimate the importance of a cheap laugh"-       |
| Liddicott| phudl@csv.warwick.ac.uk  | I WAS IN IDAHO | Plucky Duck TTA |
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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: The "high price" of the HP48!
Date: 1 Jan 1993 18:42:59 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <PHR.92Dec31214854@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
>In article <STEVEV.92Dec31204622@miser.uoregon.edu> stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender) writes:

>   I can take the HP 48 with me
>   nearly all the time, and use it wherever I am, even for long
>   periods of time -- a laptop isn't as portable and has a much
>   shorter battery life (where can you get a laptop that runs for
>   one or two months on 3 AAA batteries?).
>
>How about a 95LX?  A Poqet PC (not sure)?

Those two machines use two AA batteries each and might actually run as
long as two months.  I'm lucky if my 95 runs as long as 4 weeks, a
Fujitsu Poqet PC runs as long or longer.  The 95 costs over 1.5 times
as much and the Fujitsu costs over 2.3 times as much as a 48.  The
Fujitsu is also not as durable in part because it is physically larger
and heavier.

>didn't make me a better student.  If someone posted a message saying
>students in all curricula should have fancy stereo systems, I'd have
>reacted the same way that I did about the 48.

Fancy stereo systems are highly useful for all students for playing
thoughtful and relaxing music while studying and for those intense
group study sessions (e.g. parties).
:-) :-) :-) :-)
--
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From: jgreff@plains.NoDak.edu (Jason Greff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Using Apple II's for transfer
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:45:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.C075wC.Ew1
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


If you have seen this post before, I am sorry.  We seem to be having news
problems on this end.  Anyway, I have been trying to use my Apple IIe for
file transfer to my HP48, with only a little success.  I am using a Super
Serial card for the transfer with Proterm 3.0 as the communications
program - running Kermit as the protocol of course.  The problem is that
it seems to hang after transmitting only a few packets.  Termination
seemed to be a problem also when I tried transfer from the 48 to the
computer.  If anyone has any experience, or just has an idea about what to
try, I'd appreciate a note.  I prefer an email reply at
jgreff@plains.nodak.edu.  Thanks.

-- 
Jason Greff          North Dakota State University - Fargo, North Dakota

"It's better to remain quiet and be | "It's hard to be an individual while
 thought a fool than to speak and   |  you are busy trying to conform." --Me
 remove all doubt." -- Lincoln      |
From: Michael_Hoppe@k2.maus.de (Michael Hoppe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: hp-goodies-disk
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 09:05:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

RBE035@DJUKFA11.BITNET am Do, 17.12.92 13:55 in C.SYS.HP48

R>is there anybody out there, who can tell me something about
R>hp-goodies-disks? Where can I get them? Exists an hp-address
R>to order them on the post way? Is it possible with E-Mail and
R>if yes, how can I manage it?

The famous HORN-disks are available in Germany at:

     Fa. Well-ing-ton
     Agricolastrasse 90
     W-8000 Muenchen 21
     Tel.: 089-58 61 82.

They are also available in MausNet at Maus M4, 089-1406018, in ``Programmteil
POCKETS.''

Michael (Don't blame me for the quotes, Erik!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: RRSE50@waccvm.corp.mot.com (John Pigott)
Subject: Re: 3 Re: AAA Lithium batteries with the HP-48SX
Organization: Motorola
Date: 30 Dec 1992 11:16:36 MST

Be careful, Lithium batteries give 3 volts output, standard ones are 1.5V
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: heavy-metal@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:55:39 CST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Major Meltdown




 Well, I've got my calculator working, but it doesn't acknowledge my TDS
 512K card. It recognized my 128K HP card fine, though. If I perform the
 calculators built in RAM test, it gives me an error code of 00001. The
 manual basically says if it doesn't pass, buy a new one.

 What can I do??
From: forbesm@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Mark Forbes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Cards for hp48SX?
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:38:11 GMT
Organization: OSU CS Outreach Services, Corvallis, Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: atlantis.cs.orst.edu

twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix) writes:


>	From what I read on the Educalc catalog, they have a
>chemistry card which can do some equation balancing.  I was
>wondering if anyone knows how good is it.  Like, can it
>balancing the equation based on the reactants only and gives
>you the products?  Can it do oxidation/reduction formula
>blancing?  and what other good features does it have?
>Thanks in advance.

Quite a few folks have told us it's wonderful. Some have complained about
a few features or lacks thereof, but mostly our customers have been 
pretty happy. The balancing feature you ask about is high on the
'Why didn't you do *this*?' list.

Suppose we take Methane and Oxygen. CH4 and O2. What are the products of
the reaction? That's easy.....carbon dioxide and water. And maybe a little
carbon monoxide. And some carbonic acid? Possibly some soot, and maybe a
dash of some obscure double-bonded carbon/oxygen compound. 

That's why we don't do equation balancing. If you don't know what you're
going to get to start with, it's kind of hard to figure out. Assuming you
do know what you're getting, it will *check* the balance. And it wil *do*
charge balancing. 

Our president and resident chemistry guru (he's even got a doctorate...ooh
ahh) wrote this pac, and lots of chemistry-knowledgeable folks on the phone
have told me that they like it. As always, Educalc backs up the stuff they
sell with a money-back guarantee, so if you decide you hate it you can
send it back. But I'm pretty sure you won't.

Just my opinion, of course, but feel free to call or write with any
questions.

Mark G. Forbes | support@sparcom.com
Corvallis, OR  | 503 757 8416 work phone    | Hardware R & D
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: 3 Re: AAA Lithium batteries with the HP-48SX
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:49:12 CST

In article <1992Dec30.025123.2386@schbbs.mot.com> RRSE50@waccvm.corp.mot.com (John Pigott) writes:
>Be careful, Lithium batteries give 3 volts output, standard ones are 1.5V

Actually, Eveready (I think, some big battery manufacturer anyway)
announced a 1.5V AA size lithium batteries about a month ago.  I would
presume that there's some funky chemistry going on inside the cell,
different than that of "normal" lithium cells.  They claim it lasts just as
long as what we're used to in lithium, though.

They also announced that they're going to mass-market AAAA batteries,
which'll be useful.

						---Joel Kolstad
From: sp2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen Jeffrey Petko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: FAQ unreachable
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:20:17 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

When I try to ftp to seq.uncwil.edu or it's IP address I receive
host unreachable. Where else can I find the FAQ?

Thanks.
Steve