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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:15:59 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      British Doc. Microfiche:

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Subject: British Docs Microfiche

I was interested in reading the responses to the
question posted about Readex microfiche U.N. service
a couple of weeks ago.  I have a similar question for
anyone who subscribes to or has used British documents
on microfiche.

Specifically, I am thinking of the Chadwyck-Healey
subscription program for House of Commons Papers, House
of Lords Papers, and Command Papers.  Is the service
timely? complete?  Are there any other versions that
anyone knows of besides C-H?

I'd appreciate hearing about advantages, disadvantages,
and experiences from people who have experience with
one or the other or both.  You can reply directly to
me.

Thanks,

Tim Skeers, Northern Illinosi
NIU
c60tms1@niu

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:01:15 CDT
From:         cwolff <UA0281@UOKMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Inquiry Forms:

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i too heard the gpo claim that they can not answer all
inquiries personally (do to the number of duplicates
and the cost of mailing)  i actually had one answered
that they had contacted the agency (it was the secretary
of transportation report on the effects of deregulation
of airlines that i had received free by just sending
a letter asking for it--a civil engineering professor
sends me all kinds of postcards announcing publications
that are free for the asking---90 percent that are
non-depository therefore, not even cataloged...but
that is another story)
  anyway, i called the lady whose name was on the inquiry
anser  answer  form since she said to if i had any
questions.  she said that the person at dot that handles
that would be on vacation and asked me to send a copy
of the title page....so, i did.  she called me a couple
of weeks later and said that the agency will be providing
depository copies...that was 4 months ago and i have
yet to see it....
  i am not real sure what this story means except that
i am confused about the inquiry process myself--since
i have about 10 other forms from a couple of years back
my self....perhaps a blanket 'inquiry form
response column' could be put in admin notes so
we could check to see if ours made it might help...
  i am through rambling....
cindi wolff
university of oklahoma
--thanks to all who told me at the conference that
  they know me through govdoc-l...i think that
  was my 15 minutes of fame....
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:07:46 CDT
From:         PGIORDANO@williams.BITNET
Subject:      Re: OCLC & GOV/DOCS

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We have been using the system since 1/1/90 with "mixed" results; the
program was put on place before I arrived so my comments have the
taint of "Monday morning quarterbacking".
About costs: It cost us about $4,500 to produce shelflist cards via
OCLC for 16,700 records (.12 per record + .15 for cards, assumming an
average of 2 cards per record); to do the same thing in-house would
have cost at least $5,775, and that's just the barebones on a card,
not the commplete GPO record, or machine readable records. So for
producing a shelflist OCLC can't be beat.
GOV DOC records in your online catalog: we used to have a system
that displayed records by showing the most recently cataloged items
first. This means that in many subject searches documents overwhelmed other
materials (in the opinion of some of the reference staff). Also by
comparing the rates of growth of the general collection with that
of the documents collection the reference staff soon realized that in a few
years there would more documents in the database than anything else; and
that's without a recon project of documents. Perhaps for some libraries
this may not be an issue, but the issue of space in your mainframe is
quite serious - if you run a system like I.I.I. (as we now do) your
administration is going to quickly realize that they are going to have to buy an
   other mainframe just for documents (maybe, also I think maniframe is the wron
   g
word - I'm talking about the computer that reads your bibliographic tapes).
You must also do something to make the OCLC tapes fit your system - in the
III system you need to attach item records or the display will not work out,
this means you have to attach the item records yourself (no small task) or
hire somebody like BlackWell to do it.
Finally, you must monitor the results very carefully; you will get records
for items you never receive and you will have items for which you will
never receive a record.
On the whole I would say the system is good and bad, wonderful and
terrible - My advice is to plan for a long time and visit as many
active sites as possible. I'd also ask a question: does this sort
of blind cataloging fit into your library's general cataloging
policies? Would you accept cataloging sight-unseen for your
general collection?
Good luck and let me know what you do.
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:39:05 CDT
From:         "Margaret S. Walker" <WALKER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Firmr/Far Cds

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   After receiving a "Claims Copies Exhausted" in response to my
   faxed claim for the January 1992 FIRMR/FAR CD, I started my quest
   to get a copy.  I called a helpful person at the number listed on
   my old CD and he reported that the April one should soon be coming
   out and each new one replaces the one(s) before it. Of course!
   Anyhow so I shall wait until I see the April one.  However, this
   "Claims Copies Exhausted" for cds can get on your nerves real good.
   At least we have a retention guide for that cd.  I suppose I could
   have thought it out, but .....

        Peggy Walker
        The Gardenias are blooming in Florida!
        Florida Atlantic University
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:37:32 CDT
From:         Amy Williams <HVL@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      NTDB and NESE-DB CDROMs

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
My name is Amy Williams and I am employed by the U.S. Department
of Commerce, Office of Business Analysis.  I am a member of the
office that produces the National Trade Data Bank (NTDB) and the
soon-to-be-released National Economic, Social, and Environmental
Data Bank (NESE-DB).  At the suggestion of a librarian from the
University of Louisville, I have subscribed to GOVDOC-L.  The
idea is to provide the libraries receiving the NTDB and eventually
the NESE-DB the ability to post a message to me (BITNET address
HVL@NIHCU) and for me to make available on the listserv information
and documentation that in the past may not have reached the
librarians quickly or at all.

For those whose city, state, or geographic region we haven't
visited in the last year, more conferences and seminars are
in the works.  We will be in Seattle, WA at NOAA's Sand Point
Facility on May 15th for the Economic and Statistics Admininistration
Northwest Information Workshop.  This workshop will cover not
only the NTDB, NESE-DB, EBB but also Census and BEA information
products.  There are three other regional workshops being planned.
The registration fee is $35.00. For futher information, contact
our technical assistance line at (202) 377-1986 or send me some
mail.  I apologize in advance for any problems you may have in
receiving this message.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:06:56 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      New FBIS Daily Report:

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        Late last year issues of the FBIS Daily Report: Soviet Union
(now entitled Central Eurasia) began to cite references to a new FBIS Daily
Report series for Republic Affairs.  The 1991 Government Reports Annual Index
lists issues of the new series, Soviet Union Republic Affairs (FBIS-USR-91-)
beginning with May 30, 1991.
        As far as I know we haven't received a survey to add this as a
depository item.  Does anyone recall being surveyed about this, or is this
series not going to be available to depositories?

Hans Raum
Starr Library
Middlebury College
Middlebury, VT 05753
(802) 388-3711, ext. 5493
FAX (802) 388-3467
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Internet Raum@myriad.lib.middlebury.edu
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:03:32 CDT
From:         "Calif. State Library" <sirc@water.ca.gov>
Subject:      SLA Field Trip

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This message has been cross-posted on LIBADMIN-L, LIBREF-L, GOVDOC-
L, and EXLIBRIS.  Please excuse repeat appearances in your mail.

SLA CONFERENCE FIELD TRIP TO THE CALIFORNIA STATE CAPITOL

Those attending the upcoming Special Libraries Association
Conference in San Francisco are invited to an SLA sponsored field
trip.

     "Discovering California's Hidden Treasures:  The Sierra Nevada
      Chapter's Tour of the California State Library and the State
      Capitol"

Gary Kurutz, Director of Special Collections at the State Library,
will present a slide-illustrated guide to this historic collection,
begun in 1850 with a donation of 100 books by John C. Fremont.
Other treasures include California's first newspaper; James Wilson
Marshall's gold discovery map; and the Nuremburg Chronicle, one of
the most exalted books produced during the incunabula (pre-1501)
period.  Mr. Kurutz will also lead a walking tour of the State
Library building, listed on the National Registry of Historic
Places.

We then walk through Capitol Park to the California State Capitol
Building.  A private tour includes visits to the Senate and
Assembly Chambers and the historic rooms of the Capitol Museum.

Next we visit the Old Sacramento Historic Area located on the banks
of the Sacramento River.  Whether you decide to sample the
"California cuisine" at the various restaurants, shop, or visit the
Delta King Riverboat, you won't be disappointed.

Tour cost includes continental breakfast, transportation and tour
of the State Library and the Capitol.  Participants will be on
their own for lunch.

Cost of this field trip is $20.

This field trip is identified in the SLA Preliminary Conference and
Registration Booklet as Event #705.  Registration for the trip
should be included as part of the registration for the SLA
Conference.  If you did not receive a copy of the registration
booklet and are interested, contact Special Libraries Association
at (202) 234-4700.

Reminder:  CUT-OFF FOR REGISTRATION IS MAY 1.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:39:51 CDT
From:         dan barkley <barkley@lib.wfunet.wfu.edu>
Subject: Re: GPO/2001

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I didn't get one.  We got a raincheck.  Incredible, huh??
From: Postmaster@lib.uci.edu
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Subject: Re: New Depository Library Council Members
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:49:57 GMT
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GOVDOC-Lers:
   Here's the answer to Jim's question for my part. You all can reach me
personally by E-Mail at the following addresses (choose one that works):

       JHS@PSULIAS.BITNET  or  JHS@PSULIAS.PSU.EDU  or  UI9@PSUVM.BITNET   or

                    UI9@PSUVM.PSU.EDU

   I'm looking forward to serving you on Council and to working with the
GPO and the Public Printer to improve the Depository Library Program. I know
it will be an exciting and challenging experience in this day and age! Of
course, I will be reading GOVDOC-L regularly, as usual, but I would also like
to hear about what's on your mind directly. So, please, do not hesitate to
send a note to me on anything.
   Sincerely,
      Jack

=========================================================================

                 .*      JACK SULZER
              .^  * Head, General Reference
             *    ***************************
             *        E108 Pattee Library    **
             *    THE PENN STATE UNIVERSITY   **
             *                *              **
             *       University Park, PA      **
             *              16802              **
             *                  JHS@PSULIAS  **
             **-(814)865-3819-***************
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:42:49 CDT
From:         PHIL VAN <LB.PEV@ISUMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      CD-ROM HELP

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Amy Williams and the Office of Business Analysis are to be
commended for being so helpful to libraries who are trying to
use their CD-ROM products. I just wish all agencies were as
helpful. It was a stroke of genius for someone to recommend
that you get on GOVDOC-L. This will certainly put her in contact
with most of the major users. Thank you Amy!!
Phil Van De Voorde
LB$PEV@ISUMVS.BITNET

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:41:28 CDT
From:         "Susan E. Tulis" <set7c@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU>
Subject:      New Depository Library Council Members

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Public Printer Robert W. Houk has named five new members to the Depository
Library Council, who will serve a term from October 1, 1992, through
September 30, 1995.  They are:

     Dr. William C. Cassell
     President
     Heidelberg College
     Tiffin, OH 44883
     419/448-2202

     Mr. William W. Ellis
     Associate Librarian for Science and Technology Information
     Library of Congress LM-611
     Washington, DC 20540
     202/707-6928

     Ms. Carol D. Gordon
     Asst Coordinator of the General Materials and Services Dept.
     Milwaukee Public Library
     814 West Wisconsin Ave.
     Milwaukee, WI  53233
     414/278-2167

     Ms. Judith Rowe
     Manager of Research Services
     Princeton University Computing and Information Technology
     Princeton, NJ 08544
     609/258-6052

     Mr. John (Jack) H. Sulzer
     Head, General Reference Section
     Pennsylvania State University
     E108 Pattee Library
     University Park, PA 16802
     814/865-3819


Susan E. Tulis                              Phone    804/924-3504
University of VA Law Library                Fax      804/982-2232
Charlottesville, VA 22901                   Bitnet   set7c@virginia
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 09:34:08 CDT
From:         Araby Greene <GREENE@UNCA.BITNET>
Subject:      European Community Seminar

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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>*   Announcing...                                         *
>*                                                         *
>*   A Seminar sponsored by the Documents Section,         *
>*       North Carolina Library Association:               *
>*                                                         *
>*     << EUROPEAN COMMUNITY 1992 >>                       *
>*                                                         *
>*      Access to Information for Libraries and Business   *
>*                                                         *
>*       15 May 1992, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.                     *

>Cost: $40 with the handbook
>      $15 without handbook

>I was going to send a private message, but then I thought others
>might want to know the answers to my questions about the seminar.
>Can libraries or individuals purchase the handbook and not attend
>the seminar?  Will tapes or transcriptions of the talks and
>question/answer periods be available for sale?  If so, available
>from whom and at what cost?

>Thank you.

>Mary Shearer
>Government Documents Librarian
>University of Houston Law Library
>(713) 743-2335 **New Number**
>Law8@Jetson.uh.edu

It is possible that we may have some extra handbooks after the Seminar
which could be purchased.  I can keep a list of people who want to
reserve a copy and let them know by e-mail if they are indeed available.
Then, you could send payment to a designated person who would send it.
I'm not sure how we will handle mailing costs.  We do not have a staff
(!) to handle billing/bookkeeping, so prepayment will be requested.
If we run out of handbooks, you might contact Barbara Sloan
at the EC Washington Delegation office about purchasing the Handbook
($25) directly.  She could also tell you where other seminars are
being planned.  Maybe there could be one in Texas!

We will not be selling tapes or transcriptions.

Araby Greene  (greene@unca.bitnet)
Documents Librarian
University of North Carolina at Asheville
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:39:57 CDT
From:         "Patrick Grace" <gracep@ccmail.orst.edu>
Subject:      ALA Programs

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Here are two excellent events which were left out of the ALA Preliminary
Conference Program, both are presented by the SRRT Environment Task Force:

1) Poverty, Development, and the Environment: Information Challenges for
Libraries."

David Brower, one of the most renowned environmentalists of our time, is the
presenter.  The program is cosponsored by GODORT.

Date and time: Saturday, June 27, 2:00-4:00.

2) "Tools of the Trade or Poisons for the Planet: the Environmental Impact
of Paper, Computers, and Microfilm."

This is a panel discussion with: David Assman, Vice President of
Conservatree Paper Co.; Gar Smith, editor of Earth Island Journal; Bill
Leland, program director of ECONET; Ted Smith, executive director of the
Silicone Valley Toxics Coalition; and Matthew Wolfinger, enc\vironmental
coordinator form ANACOMP, Inc., a major microfilm producer.

Date and time: Sunday, June 28, 8:30-11:00 AM.
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:53:24 EDT
From:         "McKinzie, Steven" <MCKINZIE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Correction of Paraprofessional Conf. Announcement:

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Originally sent as ANNOUNCING A PARAPROFESSIONAL CONFERENCE

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sorry to have to send this but, inadvertently the Conference chair's
email address was given out incorrectly in one of the cross posts.  Our
system only allows multiples of 5 addresses at one time. mea culpa.

If any of you have had difficulty in sending email to Tinker Massey here
is her correct address:

TINMASS@NERVM.BITNET  or  TINMASS@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU

thank you for your time and consideration.
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:31:20 CDT
From:         "Walter L. Newsome" <wln@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NTDB and NESE-DB CDROMs

**Note from list editor--Amy Williams e-mail address is HVL@NIHCU.BITNET**
===============================================================================
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I am sure that I am one of many who wants to send an enthusiastic
WELCOME! to GOVDOC-L to Amy Williams of the Bureau of Economic
Analysis.  We need as many of those who work where government
information is produced as possible on the list.  Also hats off
to whoever urged Amy to join.  Let's continue to work to get as
many of both users and producers of government information
together in the exchange arena as possible.  It will make both
producers and consumers of government information better at what
they do.

Welcome, Amy.  And urge your colleagues to join too!

Walter Newsome
Documents
Alderman Library
University of Virginia
wln@Virginia.EDU
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