From: vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai)
Subject: Re: Democrats are Indian, Republicans are Pakistani :-)
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:53:43 GMT

In article <C1HtoD.50s@news2.cis.umn.edu>, pras0005@student.tc.umn.edu () writes:
|> Note to late-comers: Vijay Pai accused republican-voting Indo-americans of
|> being Pakistani sympathizers.  The discussion then turned to democrat vs
|> republican issues of "cultural diversity."  The India-Pakistan topic is
|> recapitualted towards the end of the article.

Well, actually, I believe this thread started out under a different
name when Maneesh (Vanderbilt) called himself a "conservative voice
of reason", expressed his support for Pat Buchanan, condemned
interracial dating & marriage, and then exhorted people to
_HAVE SOME PRIDE_ (kinda funny, this request, especially after
he said he supported Pat Buchanan, a man who believes non-Christians
<including most Indian-Americans> are going to burn in hell...)

|> In article <C1Gwvv.3Dn@rice.edu> vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai) writes:
|> >
|> >While it may have been politically of little significance, it
|> >was probably meaningful economically. After all, most Southern
|> >states are constantly trying to upgrade their images. They're
|> >sick of being considered agricultural and backward and would
|> >rather be known as progressive, urban centers of technology.
|> 
|> Image-conscious Southerners could do better that to constantly re-elect
|> Jesse Helms (make that image-conscious N Carolinans).  Helms is an advocate
|> for the tobacco industry which is contrary to what you say (see below) about
|> their fatigue with their agricultural image.  Except for the pretentious,
|> pseudo-intellectual, semi-educated people, Southerners are proud of the
|> agriculture associated with their  regions (make that some Southerners as
|> someone will complain about cutting a broad swath through the alfalfa).  I'm

Most Southern States, not necessarily most Southerners ... big difference,
since the state gov't is up to the Governor, other executive
officers, and Legislature. While individual Southerners may
like agriculture, state gov'ts tend to realize they can get
more tax $$ out of business and would rather see that ... if
you don't believe me, just look at all the ads you see in
various business magazines with mottos to the effect of
"Relocate to Mississippi/Kentucky/_insert state here_
featuring lower tax rates, a cheaper cost of living, etc."

Of course, this is a minor point.

|> Here's what you said about Pakistan:
|> 
|> >> So, if you want to support bigots and Pakistanis, that's fine by me,
|> >> but you'll be responsible when some Christian fanatic wins the
|> >> Presidency here or when Kashmir and Punjab are taken away from
|> >> the motherland.
|> >
|> 
|> Not really insulting, but highly inflammatory. Let me know if I deleted
|> anything important, but there's nothing here about the better organization
|> of the Pakistan lobby.  Infact you leave it quite open to the interpretation
|> that Republicans will arm Pakistan who will then swarm across the border,
|> crumpling India's lesser defenses in the process.

I never mentioned Republicans arming Pakistan ... If India
loses Kashmir or Punjab, you can be sure it'll be because of a UN
or US resolution sponsored, at least in part, by Pakistan or
the Pakistan lobby, as appropriate. [You're right that
I didn't mention the Pakistan lobby in my first post, which you
quoted from; however, stuff did come up about it in
subsequent posts of this thread]. That's just the way
international politics works with respect to South Asia.

If you want to interpret it as meaning that Republicans will
arm Pakistan, then go right ahead ... I thought the phrase
"taken away" strongly suggested that it was not done
in war...

I suppose if anything in that statement was inflammatory, it
was to Indian-Americans who voted Republican (specifically
anyone who could support Pat Buchanan), which was more or
less the point. 

|> 
|> 
|> Shiv Prasad
|> pras0005@student.tc.umn.edu
|> 

-- vp

And why do you keep extending the # of newsgroups this reaches??
Sure, I could take 'em off my newsgroups line, but once something
gets into a group, you might as well leave it there... What're
you gonna add next? rec.music.indian.classical ?? This is not
a suggestion :)
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