HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: RGD101@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Candidate Visit to PSU
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:46:43 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Ex-California Governor Jerry Brown will be visiting the campus of Penn State
University this Thursday, for a noon time speech.  I have also heard rumors
that Clinton will be in town on Friday, although this is unconfirmed at
present.  Any PA voters (or anyone else) interested, drop me and note and
I'll let you know the latest details, if any.  Later.  Bob Dobson.
From: loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: RFC on what-to-say-to-the-cops article (LONG)
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:40:20 CST
Organization: Texas Net Illuminati

On the "what to say to cops" article from NORML:

You should add a mention to the "worst case" scenario re: warrants. The
warrant they show you does *not* have to be signed. If you try and pull
a Jubal Harshaw and evict them for having an unsigned warrant, they'll
shoot you.

Background: On March 1, 1990, 8 U.S. Secret Service agents (along with
various local police lackeys) burst in to my apartment at 6:00 a.m., guns
drawn (for more about this, contact the Electronic Frontier Foundation).
The warrant they showed me wasn't signed. When I protested, they stated
that "the signed copy was on file." According to lawyers I've talked to,
they can actually do this.

Yet another area where the Bill of Rights is eroding . . .

Loyd

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From: jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: paba dmae cancer
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:13:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


  
	I've received a few letters and have seen a brief discussion
	without any sort of resolution on the rumour I posted sbout
	DMAE, it's solvent and cancer.  A reader contacted twinlabs
	(tm) and stated the nervous operator shakily confirmed that
	the only solvent that they used with their DMAE was water.

	I recently found a DMAE bottle in a healthfood store and
	found the DMAE in TWinlabs to be in  a PABA (para-amino ben-
	zoic acid) base.  The solvent is indeed water.  

	So I checked out the biomed libraries' reports on PABA.  I
	found a few reports of similar substances being
	carcinogenic.  I'm an amateur and I don't have these
	articles handy, but I believe these were pyrridines.  I
	found Peter Alex the med student on the shuttle today and
	he suggested the benzoic acid was the problem.  He 
	said that it is hypothesized that benzene itself is the
	culprit in causing cancer.  We talked a little about the
	chemical structure and the floating electrons of the 
	benzene ring and the efficacy of this structure in fucking
	with DNA replication.  Benzene is the same thing responsible
	for the potent carcinogenic activities of burnt barbeque
	meterial which is basically just a clump of benzene riings.
	
	The journals were mostly unreadable to this novice but 
	by the availability of benzocaine, sunscreens containing
	benzene-type chemicals (which react with UV light to create
	free raqdicals) that this issue is either unresolved or
	not yet critical (as the journals seemed to suggest- in-
	conclusive.)  PATMS (peter alex the med student) believed
	the necessity of these products in medical practices
        currently outweighs their dangers.  This didn't make sense
	to me, aS the use in suncreen is to PREVENT cancer while
	he claimed these same substances CAUSED cancer.

	Maybe this shouldn't be taken all that seriously.  But
	I'm sure a few others as well as myself would appreciate
	it if a more biochemically-minded reader could make sense
	of this and give a few words to the newsgroups.

--
jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu			Joseph A. Tucker
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: buescher@irk.ugcs.caltech.edu (Brent Joseph Buescher)
Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder drug
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:47:31 GMT

jeffq@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Jeff Ishaq) writes:

>I was contemplating doing a report on the Jacob's Ladder drug, but I'd first
>like to know the approximate availability of information on this subject.  Un-
>fortunately, I have no idea what the drug is called.  From the movie, I got
>that it was named The Ladder, and a friend said the quip at the end of the
>movie deemed it "B-Z or something like that."  I'd appriciate the real name of
>this drug and maybe some suggested readings if anybody has them.  Thanks!

>-jq

Look up BZ in the Merck manual; it's in there and references are given.
If I remember correctly it's a hallucinogenic gas developed as a chemical
warfare agent that pretty much leaves you on the ground drooling and tripping
your gourd out for an ungodly length of time.  

Brent
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7201 talk.politics.drugs:2705
From: alexc@yang.earlham.edu (Sperminator)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Input sought on drug legalization: detection/
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:40:02 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Apr2.162402.6213@muddcs.claremont.edu>, teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (Toby Everett) writes:
> In article <1992Apr1.055105.25666@nic.umass.edu> s4610160@titan.ucc.umass.edu (dicA deaH) writes:
>>Juries can and do aquit people with BACs higher than the level that police
>>can arrest people for.  A friend was arrested after some idiots ran into
>>the street and just about into his car.  His BAC was .11 and he was 
>>arrested.  He challendged it and the jury found that he wasn't DWI.
>>The standards are not hard and fast, just guidelines. 
> 
> 	A guy in Alaska was arrested and convicted for being in the drivers
> seat while drunk.  He had walked out to his car, gotten in, and realized
> that he was to drunk to drive.  So he went to sleep in the car to wait.  The
> police found him, gave him a breathalyzer test, and found him intoxicated.
> Based on the law, which says that being in control of a vehicle is
> sufficient for DWI, he was convicted.  The jusy said that they thought the law
> was incredibly stupid, since it was punishing someone for doing the right 
> thing, but that they their job was to uphold the law, not legislate it.
>         --Toby Everett
>         --teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu

iF we're going to talk about stupid dui's, I have to mention the DUI my 
friend was given about a month ago.  He had been at a party and knew 
before he went that he would be too drunk to drive home.  to avoid this, 
he brought a bike so that he could go home off of main roads.  On his way 
home, he stopped at a stop sign, and noticed that he was beside a police 
car.  as he stopped, the bike fell over, onto the cop car.  He was given a 
dui under the VA state law that a bicycle is a motor vehicle.

alex MADMAN chermside
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jdugger@gluttony.reed.edu (Jay Dugger)
Subject: Isolation Tanks
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:15:46 GMT


Can anyone point me in the direction of some plans for an isolation tank?
Thanks.

Jay Dugger
jdugger@reed.edu
From: voss.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: virtual reality
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:24:38 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

If its fun,and serves no industrial,military,or politicl purpose 
they'll probably ban it too! just like they wanted to ban video games 
back in the mid 80's! anything that provides pleasure to the masses and 
the big boys cant control they want to do away with

FROM TH HOME OFFICE

TOP 3 PHONY REASONS FOR BANNING STUFF
=====================================
1) Protecting children
2) "Family values"
3) "community" standards
 
p.s. if you can think of any more post them on the board
From: chroma@hoptoad.uucp (Steve Kudlak)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: is ephedrine a prescription only?
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:36:31 GMT
Reply-To: chroma@hoptoad.UUCP (Steve Kudlak)
Organization: Skyline Genetic Engineering

In article <s2e55INNkmg@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> kkruse@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Korey J. Kruse) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.230031.4907@willamette.edu> jduncan@willamette.edu (Jack Duncan) writes:
>>
>>is just straight ephedrine available over the counter?
>
>It is in Kansas and Missouri....the only states I know about.   I assume
>since it is available here then it must not be prohibited by federal.
>
>--
>    _   _   _                _       _   _    kkruse@ksuvm.bitnet
>|/ | | |_) |_ \ /     |  |/ |_) | | (_` |_    kkruse@ksuvm.ksu.edu
>|\ |_| | \ |_  |    (_|  |\ | \ |_| ._) |_    kkruse@matt.ksu.edu


It is sold here in California right over the counter. Now seeing as 
my lower intestine goes on a rampage more frequently than desired I
wish Lomotil were an over the counter drug. Immodium alas gives me
nausea which Lomotil doesn't.


				Be Seeing You,
				Sends Steve

reply to: chroma@toad.com
From: anarch@bonaire.dartmouth.edu (The Anarch)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Seeking Bush atheism quotation reference
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:21:49 GMT
Organization: Secular Humanists from Hell


       Sorry to interrupt this group with non-drug affairs, but I am trying
to find a reference for a quotation of George Bush that I think appeared
here (or maybe in a .sig or .plan).  He expressed that "atheists should [not]
be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots."  If anyone
can tell me if this quotation is for real and point me to its source, I'd be
very grateful.  Thanks much.

-- 
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+anarch@bonaire.dartmouth.edu-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
   "The Walpurgisnacht has become synonomous with any general revelry, and
     particularly for the breaking out of demonic lewdness and disorder."
D I S C L A I M E R :   E V E R Y T H I N G   I   W R I T E   I S   F A L S E
From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: San Pedro (Trichocereus pachonoi)
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:12:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <5qxj0ch.rcain@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>From another research source:
>
>> The sacrement has been prepared in various traditional ways since ancient
>> times, typically involving a one pound section, 6-12" long of a 3" diameter
>> stalk.  

[alkaloids extracted]

>Nowhere can I find how much of that to ingest.  

That 6"-12" section is one dose.  Measure out how much cactus
you've got by the linear foot, then divide by some number between 6
and 12 to get number of doses.  You'll have to go ahead and dose to
get an idea of how rich the alkaloid content of your cactus is and
adjust dosage.  You can increase the alkaloid content of San Pedro
by not watering the cactus before harvesting.  The alkaloid content
is roughly linked to the color of the cactus; the deeper the green
of the skin, the more alkaloids.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: antz@leland (B and M)
Subject: drugs
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:07:44 GMT

Can someone help me in finding how to get the book "The Emperor Wears No 
Clothes".  I have heard a lot about it. It's written by Jack Harar?  It'
about marijuana and its uses.
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7455 talk.politics.drugs:2837
From: 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Air Force uses uppers ...
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:58:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs


I ask the net.knowlegeable on these issues (Steve, Lamont):  didn't
the Luftwaffe first invent various forms of crystal meth, in 
anticipation of their pilots flying loong missions from bases in
England to bomb the Eastern US?  Someone once told me that this
was the plan before Hitler scrubbed Sea Lion.

cws

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
From: psbarb01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:10:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.013417.4649@ncsu.edu>, dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.171817.12178@bradley.bradley.edu> 
>          dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
> 
>> Legalization would put blacks back on the bottom rung of the income ladder.
> 
> Can anyone name one black leader who supports legalization besides
> Mayor Schomke? I asked this question about a year ago and no names 
> surfaced.

Are you saying that most black leaders would support it because they think it
would put more blacks on the bottom rung?  I think that there just aren't
enough black leaders, so the ones that are don't want to rock the boat.

Just thinking,
Phil
 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes piece on the Forfeiture Law
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
     <1992Apr13.122339.13721@nntp.hut.fi> <1992Apr14.160249.6187@eng.umd.edu>
     <olson.703269353@acf9>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:47:06 GMT

In article  David Olson, olson@acf9.nyu.edu writes:

>I'd like to take this opportunity to remind people that the constitution
>of the state of New Hampshire *explicitly* protects your Right to
Revolution.

We New Englanders have a long standing tradition of exercising our right
to independence (just look at NH's license plate motto: Live Free or
DIE!!!).  Don't forget, Vermont has a long-standing tradition of seceding
from the Union for one day.  Vermont declares independence and the
Governor is elected President.

- Peter
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:7324 talk.politics.drugs:2773 talk.politics.misc:17324
From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Another democracy bites the dust
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:48:10 GMT
Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <1992Apr6.162307.39081@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dougm@kuhub writes:
>According to CNN at noon on Monday April 6, 1992, Pres. Alberto Fujumora of
>Peru has suspended the Peruvian Congress, placed prominent opposition leaders
>under arrest, and has suspended the constitution.  He was supported in his
>takeover by the Peruvian military, who's tanks were to be seen in the streets
>of the capitol.
>
>Pres. Bush commented that the move is regrettable and a step backward.

Was Fujomora and the military supported by the U.S. government in the
takeover?  Does the U.S. government support or oppose the politics of
Fujumora?  (Ie. is there a counterrevolution to be expected soon or is
this a good leader who will stay in power).

//Jyrki
From: 870242p@aucs.acadiau.ca (Chris Poulain)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes piece on the Forfeiture Law
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:24:48 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

>There was a thing on "60 Minutes" about the 1984 Seizure Law.
>Apparently, the police have the right to take anything and everything
>they want to at any time if they _suspect_ drugs are in any way involved.
>They don't even have to charge you with a crime, and they can keep what
>they've seized.  One guy had to buy back his own seized jet at a gov't
>seizure auction.  That is bullshit.  I suspect that this law may be 
>ruled unconstitutional, go to the Supreme Court, and be ultimately upheld
>by the ultra right-wing court.  Maybe, maybe not.  But it is a very bad
>law.  

>Ken

I saw that show as well and i thought it was pretty damn scary.  The 
government has put a nice twist to the "innocent until proven guilty" thing.
I don't know what you Americans think of the situation, but i don't
think your government has much respect its citizens.  I have to agree with
Ken, this is a very bad law.  I'm sure glad that i don't live in the States.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
chris poulain  acadia university  wolfville  nova scotia  canada
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: a test.  sorry.
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:12:59 GMT


Will this work?  I hope so.
From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer Western Kentucky University)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: SKIP
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:59:23 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

We have also done something similar to this.  What you do is squat down like
you are a catcher and breath heavily until you get light headed.  You then
stand up against a wall and have 1 or two people push hard against your chest
until you pass out.  The trip ranges from a very intense ride to remembering
nothing.  We call it "The Wall".
-- 
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*  Mike Shroyer                     What's the difference between Greeks     *
*  Western Kentucky University       who all dress alike and non-conformists *
*  shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet             who all dress alike                     *
*  shroyer@wku.edu                                                           *
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Asset Forfeiture and You
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:26:00 GMT

drk20509@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (mighty odin) writes:
: 	I have little or no idea what to do if involved with officers of
: law concerning illicit ingestible substances, but this is okay as I am not
: one who frequently has such substances. But it is obvious that I can
: suffer the weight of the law _without_ ever having done anything illegal
: (see Confiscation of Suspected Drug Monie or Goods). 
: 	Is there anything that can or should be done in such a situation
: such as co-operating, resisting, insisting on receipt for goods, or
: generally making a scene? In other words, what is the best response to
: confiscation of goods (temporarily begging the question of guilt)?

Not much. If you make a scene, then they can charge you with resisting
arrest or interfering with a police officer performing his duty.

: 	I wonder, though, why the officials didn't tag him instead of 
: nabbing him. That way they could have also gotten a chance at the supplier.
: I mean, officals couldn't possibly be interested only in making money,
: could they?

Unfortunately, that is all they want to do - get the money. They have no
interest in getting the supplier - why should the stop the people who are
the reason they have their jobs in the first place?

: -dwk

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ah739@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leslie J. Somos)
Subject: Re: Legality question concerning spores
Reply-To: ah739@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leslie J. Somos)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 21:00:29 GMT


In a previous article, gdb43989@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg Brown) says:

>>>In article <1992Apr11.190922.4173@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> rdm31671@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Raymond D. Meredith) writes:
>>>>across state lines?  I just don't understand how these companies can sell
>>>>something that might be used for illegal purposes (namely the growing of
>>>>psychedelic mushrooms!)
>
>The spores do not contain psilobin, and therefore are not illegal.
>

I understand that some companies sell guns.

I just don't understand how companies can sell something that might
be used for illegal purposes.  (can be used in commission of crimes)


I understand that some companies sell cars.  (can be used in getaways)


I understand that some companies sell writing instruments and paper.
(can be used to keep track of illegal transactions)

Yes, those are not exact analogies.  But it is sometimes a very fine line.

-- 
Leslie J. Somos
ah739@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Kesey's back!
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 05:56:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Kesey's back, Kesey's back!  He showed up here in San Jose according to
the Mercury at a childrens hospital in full dress (prankster style)
telling his new tales to the kids.  He finds that the adults (yeah,
right) tend to put their chin in their hand and size him up while
the kids like his stories.  I won't grow up, I won't grow up!  Repeat
after me...
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: NORML California <canorml@igc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:54 PDT
Subject: 3 Things Pot Doesn't Do (3)
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1301300141:000:1280
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!canorml    Apr 16 23:54:00 1992


THREE THINGS MARIJUANA DOESN'T DO
 from California NORML Reports, April 1992
(3) NEW STUDY FINDS POT DOESN'T LOWER TESTOSTERONE
   A new study by Dr. Robert Block at the University of 
Iowa disputes the commonly held notion that marijuana alters 
the level of testosterone and other sex hormones.
   The study contradicted a widely publicized 1974 study 
by Dr. R.C. Kolodony, which reported decreased testosterone 
levels in men who smoked marijuana chronically.
   The U. of Iowa study found that chronic marijuana use 
had no effect on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle 
stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men or women. 
   Noting that six other studies had failed to show 
lowered testosterone levels in men, Dr. Block concluded: "It 
appears that marijuana, even heavy use of the kind that's 
typical in the United States, doesn't alter testosterone levels."  
   However, he cautioned that heavy use might have other 
adverse  effects, including "possible effects on reproductive 
function and mild, selective cognitive impairments associated 
with heavy, chronic use."
   Block's study is published in Drug and Alcohol 
Dependence, Vol. 28: 121-8 (1991).

(from California NORML Reports:  4/92
2215-R Market  St#278, San Francisco, CA (415) 563-5858)

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From: v129nlgw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (PAUL HOWARD)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: just a question
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:04:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>freightening misinformation about drugs.  those parents who 
>have no personal experience with, say, mj, trip, etc, have
>no way of knowing that they are being lied to.  they, in turn, 
>pass on to their children such nonsense as; "one hit and you're
>in for it,"  "smoking grass is NECESSARILY the first step down
>the road to 'even more' dangerous stuff," and that chemically
>altering one's state of consciousness is dangerous, unnatural, 
>evil,  etc.  
> 
>     well the next step, of course, is for many many kids to
>get to high school, or whatever, and find out that most of this
>was BULL SHIT!!  they meet good people who get stoned and nothing
>really bad happens. maybe they try it and really like it (of 
>course :-)  ), and realize that it really isn't evil.  is it
>any wonder that we have such massive generation gaps?  how
>is this kid supposed to feel when he realizes that his parents,
>teachers, clergy, government etc. have been lying to him outright,
>or at the very least screaming about something when they really
>didn't know DIDDLY about what they were talking about?  

Maybe then the kid will learn to finally think for him(her)self.
I know I didn't learn until I got to college and my roommate exposed me
to pot.  Within six months, I went to my parents and told them what I
thought, and that I smoked, went to rallys, etc.  They never liked the
idea, but at least they had to accept my opinion because I could burn them
with real logic instead of the "I just believe it's wrong." stuff 
my mom gave me.

-Paul