From: freedmanm@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: LD/Kareoke
Organization: University of Lowell
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:43:39 GMT

>> article <1992Aug21.174658.18695@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, chenl@cbnewse.cb.att.com (julian.l.chen) writes:
>>I am also looking to buy a karaoke machine for my kids, I am appreciated if you
>>can forward information received to me.
>>I talked to some Karaoke special store in Los Angeles, California. The Pioneer
>>Karaoke machine has "V" in their model, such as CLD-V510, CLD-V705, CLD-V820.
>>The cheapest price in the mail order store for CLD-V510 is $496 US dollars,
>>which is $100 cheaper than the local karaoke store.
>>Since this machine is rather expensive (for a kids toy is expensive), I was
>>thinking to buy a regular laser disc player and a audio mix to perform the same
>>effect as a integrated karaoke machine. the LD player Pioneer CLD-980 is only
>>$229 from some mail order store, and the audio mix is about $50 (I think,
>>because I saw some ad in the video magazine long times ago, I can not remember
>>now). But the problem I want to figure out is whether the LD player can output
>>music only  (in analog mode?) or always music and vacol together (in digital
>>mode?). if you get some information about this, please tell me too.
>>Tanwei Chung
>>e-mail address: tchung.esae@xerox.com
>>telephone: (310) 333-7099
> 
> First, don't buy the CLD-V510, at least get the CLD-V710/720, it is about
> $100 more. Because CLD-V510 does not have the very important shift-key
> capability (more about this later...).
> 
> I and my friends had done some research on Karaoke. Ordinary mixier is not
> good enough for the purpose of Karaoke for two reasons :
> 
> (1) A ordinary mixer will only mix your voice with the vocal on the source
> (from LD, CD, tape...) but a real Karaoke mixer with the properly recorded
> source can remove the vocal part from the source. Thus, your voice is the
> only vocal accompanied by the background music.
> 
> (2) The Karaoke part of most of Pioneer LD players and some advanced
> Karaoke mixer (such as Pioneer MA-9) allow you to shift the key of the
> background music. This is a very useful feature that allows each singer
> to adjust the key to suit his/her voice.
> 
> A Karaoke mixer that does not have the shift key capability costs about
> $100 - $150 and the ones with shift key capability costs about $300.
> Also, Pinoeer MA-9 is not available in U.S. market at this time. The MA-9
> I have seen from my friend is bought from Japan directly. Recently, I
> have seen some ads selling Taiwanese Karaoke mixer with the feature comparable
> to MA-9 and its price is $279.
> 
> So, if you bought the bottom-of-the-line LD for $229, add a ordinary Karaoke
> mixer $100 will cost you $329 but you don't have the shift-key feature.
> If you bought the $229 LD with the $279 Taiwanese Karaoke mixer, it will cost
> you $508. So, in summary, if you don't need the shift-key capability, buy
> a cheap LD and a Karaoke mixer. Otherwise, purchase a Pioneer Karaoke LD
> may not be a bad idea to get a decent Karaoke system.
> 
> Julian
> att!ihlpe!chenl (CHENL)




I am a DJ and do alot of Kareoke shows.  The best Kareoke systems that I have
come accross is the Denon one.  It not only plays DK kareoke disks but also
plays Pioneer Laser Kareoke also.  Check it out.. I think it is around 500
bucks.
					Mike.