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From: jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Adam Nimpfer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron-Peace War
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:49:40 GMT
 2Apr6.215023.2888@vax.muskingum.edu> 
 <sdsFrge00WBK0_yAwu@andrew.cmu.edu><92098.094232TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu><92098.202357TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

This is the end my friends.
    I hereby withdraw from this asinine flame war.  I can't believe all
of you people are taking up precious bandwith, posting these idiotic
votes.  The main reason I'm withdrawing is to allow people who love
metal to read what they want.  All who cast a vote should be ashamed of
themselves.  You must look in the mirror and ask yourself,"Do I have a
brain?  Do I deserve to live?"  I don't see how anyone can support a
complete loser like Suaron.  Going by the unbelievable number of
messages this guy posts every month, I have to conclude that he is a
serious computer geek.  He started the voting campaign just to get
attention.  I truly believe that if he lost this voting thing that he
would be seriously depressed.  This bboard is his life.  All you people
have done is inflated the ego of a very self conscious person.  How can
anyone find a guy who responds to every message with the same rant and
rave about posers, amusing?  If you find Suaron so funny, why don't you
and he take it to rec humor?  From reading all the responses to Suaron
and my messages over the past few months, I have to deduce that there is
no intelligent life on this bboard.  Why did you waste your time
responding to my messages...were you bored or just stupid?  No one can
accuse me of wasting bandwith because you're all guilty.  I'm going to
leave you and Suaron and Maple and Victoria and Weasel to play your
little games.  I started this religious thing to prove a point that
metal rots the brains of its listeners...I think I proved my point.  I
love metal, but after reading this, maybe I should cut back on my daily
intake to save my brain.  I'm done reading this newsgroup until next
semester, when I'll challenge Suaron to give up his facade and bow down
before the true metal god.  But for now, I'm going to get off this
computer and go out and get some sun.  May you all rot at your
terminals.  I am no longer Peace, I am now Anarchy.
                                                                Anarchy
P.S. Suaron, in the words of our disturbed friend, Maple:











F U C K    Y O U !    Y O U    M O T H E R F U C K E R ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
! ! ! !
Organization: Mindcrime
X-Subliminal-Message: Marhefkasnot!
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 12:22:46 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: The new Bobby McFerrin Album
 <1992Apr12.185505.350@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <92103.155351TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1992Apr12.222934.1838@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>

In article <1992Apr12.222934.1838@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald) says:

(In reference to Suaron, of course):

>Maybe it's not the water, but the air in Pennsylvania...
>
                                                 -Tom

I'm pretty sure it was that Three Mile Island thing, Tom, so maybe it's
both the water _and_ the air.  That would explain my recurring headaches.
(Or maybe it was all that beer I drank...)

Somebody from PENNSYLVANIA!!!! AAAAHHHHAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAHHAAAAAA!!!!!!

 Sime

 "If there's a new way,
  I'll be the first in line"        "Now there is a school that
                                     self-destructed not because
 "A couple grains of powder,         society didn't care, but
  A couple grams of lead,            because the school _was_
  A touch against the trigger,       society.  Pretty deep, huh?"
  A touch inside your head"                   -J.D.
         -Megadeth                             in "Heathers"
From: villj00@DMI.USherb.CA (JONATHAN VILLIARD)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: MEGADETH RULZ!!!!!!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:39:35 GMT
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke, Quebec


In article <1992Apr6.211017.3591@iscsvax.uni.edu>
lindaman4833@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>10) Many recent heavy metal/hard rock bands (Slaughter, Megadeath, Winger to
>some extent)---When these guys came out, I didn't mind them until every
>skateboarding hair mutant and their girlfriends from K-Mart Fashion Hell
>started requesting their songs every 10 seconds. It just goes to show you that
>a successful formula for a band can be WAY WAY WAY overused.  After a while
>they all sound the same.Only the true hard rockers like Van Halen, Led
>Zeppelin,and Def Leppard continue to make new music that sounds different, not
>like it came out of a factory.  Case in point: Megadeath did a remake of Alice
>Cooper's "No More Mr. Nice Guy" for the "Shocker" soundtrack. I loved the A.C.
> version, but HATED the Megadork remake.Later, Megadork put out a song for the
> soundtrack of "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey" and that sucked too. Conclusion:
> Megadeath/Megadork SUCKS!!!Them and the rest of their long-haired buddies who
> can't figure out which end of the guitar to use for a solo.If you're gonna do
> hard rock, make it sound less bubble-gummy and more like music. Anything else
> is just a stupid imimation.


	YOU ARE JUST A BRAINLESS FILTHY FUCKING LIAR!!!!!!!!!!

	MEGADETH is the best heavy metal band in the whole world.

Comparing them to Winger is due to a VERY big lack of intelligence!
The one who wrote this is just a fucking idiot. By the way, thinking that
"Def Leppard continue to make new music that sounds different" is 
another proof of his stupidity. Thinking that Dave Mustaine and Marty
Friedman don't know how to use a guitar means that he really doesn't
know anything about music.
-- 
*******************************************************************************
*  Jonathan Villiard           *  Without death, life would be meaningless... *
*  Villj00@dmi.usher.ca        *                           - Dave Mustaine    *
*******************************************************************************
From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Vote humorous, vote often
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:09:24 GMT
Organization: UB

Because he's funnier to have around...

[x] suaron
[ ] nimpfer

Wow, don'tcha just LOVE democracy???

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott)
Subject: Re: Very Concerned
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:11:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.233842.12081@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
> 
>      I am a fairly new subscriber to this group, but it scares and appalls me
>      to think that people aroung the world actually view bands like Def
>      Leppard, Winger, Warrant, Slaughter, Motley Crue, Poison, and every
>      other pussy glam-rock pretty boy band out there as heavy metal.  Perhaps

pussy? no.... but not heavy metal? definitely not.... 
but...

>      just the classification of music at all is a bad idea, but to mixe the
>      afore mentioned bands in the same newsgroup with such virtuosos as
>      Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer is totally sacreligious.  How could you

NO ONE in megshit or sleigher could even come close to being called a
"virtuoso" anyone with half a brain can play their crap. I mean, pour on some
speed with no melodies and there you have it. Hammett though is definitely
awesome..

>      possibly compare an album like "Adrenalize". full of pretty little "har
>      rock dance tunes" with such musical integrity and all out power as a
>      "Seasons in the Abyss" or "Rust in Peace"?  Get with it folks.  I
>      actually read an article that said Dave Mustaine didn't know which end
>      of the guitar to play.  Does this person realize how innovative and
>      absolutely incredible Dave's writing and playing really is?  It is

I wouldn't compare them. But Mustaine has never played an innofvative or
incredible lick in his life.

>      incredible...absolutely incredible.  Feel free to add on to this if you
>      like...

I did 

> 						very concerned...
> 						   the Python
-- 
 __________________________________________________________
|  Christopher L. Lott  --- Poet and Pauper                |
|__________________________________________________________|___
|  fscll@alaska                | "And now what shall become of |
|  fscll@acad3.alaska.edu      |  us without any barbarians?   |
 ------------------------------|  Those people were a kind of  |
                               |          solution."           |
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: dougp@juliet.caltech.edu (Peterson, Douglas)
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal Movie List 1.0
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.161455.26973@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, todd_mcgee@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu writes...
>In article <ricki.702715868@rwthi3> ricki@john.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
>(Richard Breuer) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>In late '91 I asked for HM movies and got several responses. Here's a
>>summary. Feel free to add/correct.
>>
>>
>>
>>Trick or Treat
>>        Gene Simmons
> 
>>
>>Ricki.
>>
>The Trick or Treat soundtrack was by Fastway. Simmons played a DJ in the movie
>and was quite good but did not supply any music. All in all, though, not a bad
>compilation - Todd

Ozzy Osbourne also appeared briefly in this movie as some sort of tele-
evangelist.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: sbohman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven A Bohman)
Subject: Re: Important: Please Read
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:11:23 GMT

I for one didn't care for his sense of humor or desire to control this group,
(often I thought he was an arogant ass)
and have had a 'flame-war' or two with Suaron.  However, I felt sick inside
when I read this post.  A close friend and a cousin of mine were killed in
car accidents; I feel for his family and friends. 
-- 
Steven A. Bohman   :                 He's got an AK-47 for his best friend, 
Bohman.2@osu.edu   :                 Business the American Way...QueensRyche
From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: *MENTAL FLATULENCE RAMPANT ON NEWSGROUP!  NO ANSWERS 
 EXIST!
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:13:00 GMT
 <1992Apr5.052533.1605@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
 <1992Apr7.003424.1@pomona.claremont.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Apr7.003424.1@pomona.claremont.edu>
cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu writes:

> Your dogma isn't backed up, but you've put your back to it.

why do you say this? i think i've provided a more than fair bit of
evidence for my standpoint, and if you want more, i'll give you more.
would you prefer to discuss the musical intracacies of metallica, old
and new? perhaps their type of chord progressions and inversions? maybe
soloing style and chord basis? you name it, i'll give it to you. 

you on the other hand provide little or nothing the the way of
constructive argument. you make statements, but you don't endeavor to
provide any substance to them. thus, we are left simply with your
bandwagoning opinions. where were you when the album came out? i don't
recall more than one or two post complaining about the 'sell-out' of
metallica. now it seems that there's nothing else. 

it seems to me that you grow weary of this argument because you can't
come up with a good base or foot to stand on. once i dissect your
statements, you simply seem to accept it and move on to fabricate
another falshood about the band. i'm not one of these newer fans. i've
followed the group for a long time, since before they switched to
elektra records. (did you know they had a label before that?) i even
have the old megaforce version of KEA on album (no lyrics or
'blitzkrieg' or 'am i evil'. what i'm saying is that i'm a very long
time fan of the band, and to tell you the truth, i think the only
change is that in speed (with a resulting slight drop in intensity) and
the choice of different subject matter.

i grow weary of your type of person. the type that makes a statement
about metallica but can't back it up, so they circle around and around
and then try to back out when they can't think of anything new. it's
pathetic. you should at least know what you're talking about before you
open your flapper.

-kev.

> 	Quite simply, we agree to disagree.
to quote the pyhtonesque, 'that's the type of blinard philistine pig
ignorance i've come to expect from your type of non-creative garbage'

anyone got the exact quote, that's just from memory, and i think i
screwed it up somewhere...
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.music newsgroups
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:56:18 GMT

	Well Maple, for once I agree with you, except for two minor changes;

>alt.guitar	                => alt.music.guitar
>alt.bass                        => alt.music.bass

	Alt.guitar discusses playing guitar, new guitar products, and things
that most non-guitar players wouldn't care about. I think these groups should
be left as is. To put them under alt.music would give people the impresion that
they discuss music that is heavy on guitar. Also the flak about the
organization of the groups is not being discussed on these groupsm, and 
therefore, they should not be made to change. They have nothing to do with
the argument.



						James B


From:     		jamesb@redrock.nevada.edu
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							-- CROW
From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: TESTAMENT - The Ritual - May 12
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:26:45 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I got an interesting postcard in the mail from Atlantic Records yesterday.
On one side it just had my address and Atlantic's address, but on the other
side was ...


C O M I N G  M A Y  1 2

     TESTAMENT

    "THE RITUAL"

It had the cover of the album on it, which is way fucking cool!


tt..
"Tell the world the New Order's here!"
From: v119qkv2@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (POE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Def Leppard
Keywords: Let's Get Rocked!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


		Well, the new Def Leppard album has been out for 
	almost 2 weeks now and I'd like to know what everyone thinks.
	I'd like to offer my own opinion and say it has to be the 
	best heavy metal album put out since Nirvana's Nevermind (BTW,
	is there someone out there who could E-mail me the lyrics?).
		"Let's get, let's get, let's get rocked" - pure poetry.
	The genius in these lyrics ranks up there with the likes of
	Pink Floyd's "The Wall", Metallica's (the album w/ "One" on
	it), and Warrant's "Cherry Pie".  Def Leppard will definitely
	win every Amer. Music Award and Grammy Award in the pop, rock,
	and heavy metal catagories, and prove once and for all, that
	they are without a doubt the best band going today.  Only
	Guns n' Roses comes close to matching their excellent musician-
	ship and intelligent, well-written songs.
		And for all those metalheads who think that groups
	like Megadeath and Danzigg are better and think that the
	true metal kings Def Leppard and Guns n' Roses don't belong
	here, "Get in the Ring" and "Get Rocked"!!!

		- ...and you could be mine.
			Poe





























	- Shya, and monkeys might fly out of my butt!
From: sl7w3@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: *MENTAL FLATULENCE DURING LYRICAL ANALYSIS!*
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:34:11 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr8.201222.1@pomona.claremont.edu>, cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
> In article <1992Apr8.042027.2706@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury) writes:
>>> Metallica are describing how soldiers are supposed to be mindless uncaring
>>> robots in the song No Remorse.  IMHO
>> 
>> actaully, i don't think it's so intelligently thought through. in view
>> of the  entire KEA album, i'd say that it represents more of the fuck
>> you fuck me fuck us all...
> 
> 
> 	Really?  How so?  "Blood feeds the war machine..."  I think it's more
> of a thought-provoking song on an album blessed with few of them.
> 
> <c>.
--

     I don't know if I'd say that KEA really had anything to do with 
thought provoking...it seems more like James trying to find something
to sing to, I mean, it's not horrible, pretty good comparitively, but 
I still see no real sign of extra-ordinaire mind blowing intelligence.
     They are still better than what they've come up with lately
though...


'Too late to annul, so I plan her demise
 Creative Divorce - asphyxiate the bride'     Mike Fonnesbeck.
From: cook@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (The Cookster!)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron-Peace War
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:23:44 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <9204090430.AA00112@buxton.teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au>, agbrooks@teaching.cs.adelaide.edu.au (Zoz) writes...
>This cum-siphon from hell was just trying to antagonise you lot. He succeeded,
>but I still found the whole thing amusing, especially Suaron's election
>campaign.

	Well said. Personally, I'm pretty sick of this ego-fuck. If
	Suaron wants to jerk off I wish he'd leave it off Usenet.

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From: LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Metallica
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:16:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92097.031614LPR100
Organization: Penn State University

In article <8drxyAe00WBM06TW4_@andrew.cmu.edu>, jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Adam
Nimpfer) says:
>
>Dear Suaron,
>    God has never asked anyone to kill for him.

Perhaps, but some seem to take killing into their own hands for their
God.

>By reading your posts, I see that you may be under the
>influence of demonic possession or some kind of narcotics.

Yes, it's demons.

>This means war Suaron.
>                                                           Peace


Hmm, not just a self-righteous christian, but a hypocritical one as
well. Funny how these two traits run hand in hand, eh?

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: tcchang@spotted.owlnet.rice.edu (Telly Chieh Chang)
Subject: Re: Lillian Axe
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:48:15 GMT

Lillian Axe has been around for quite a while.
The never quite "made it" and they have also gone through a few, though
not major lineup changes.  The lead guitarist is the main backbone of 
the band.  He does most of the writing for their songs.

About once a month or once every two month, they come through Houston
and I've been able to catch several live shows.  The music is pretty
good, though commercial at times.  However, some of their songs are
fairly heavy, i.e. "misery loves company".

Telly
Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:6532 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy:1126
From: mholmes@lonestar.utsa.edu (Mark L. Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: WatchTower
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:12:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Apr11.221221.26052
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

I am posting this for a friend.

Hello netters, my friend is having trouble finding albums/cassette/disc
of this band, WatchTower.  He was informed that their stuff is out of print
and not to be had.  So, if anyone out there could assist him in finding
and or aquiring these items, or just giving some hints on how to go about
aquiring out of print albums, I and he would be most appreciative.

You may email me at:

                        mholmes@lonestar.utsa.edu
                        mholmes@ringer.cs.utsa.edu

Thank you very much,
Mark Holmes
From: hetfield@unix.cis.pitt.edu (James A Cubeta)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Unbelievable...
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:36:49 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


I wonder how many of the last 500 posts to this newsgroup have concentrated on
Suaron, Maple, G-n-R, or Def Leppard...?

More to the point, I wonder what the ratio is of informative posts to petty
bickering...?

I'd even settle for a civilized discussion!!!

James

P.S.  Where is the new TNT, goddamnit!!!

________________________
James Cubeta
hetfield@unix.cis.pitt.edu

"Life will not break your heart,
   it will crush it."  - H. Rollins
From: stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (needs changing)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Very Concerned
Keywords: Do they really think this is heavy metal?
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:41:45 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr16.032311.12942@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>so, what are you saying....where do you stand on this? And I assumed that
>fans of this "music" on this newsgroup assume them to be heavy metal because
>that IS the name of the group isn't it?  Are you implying that those of us

	NO, the name of the group is alt.r-n-r.metal.
	NOT alt.r-n-r.heavy.

	I have yet to hear anyone complain about these thrash,death,etc...
	bands from the people that like the "glam" rock.
	The only people talking shit about music is the thrash,death
	fans.  Why?  It seems as soon as a band gets airplay or sellsout
	an arena, they are posers or such.  
	I remember Ozzy being king of metal, shit like that, now because
	he does a radio song, he is a King of the Posers, and a sell out,
	etc...

	Hell, I never hear the sell-outs complaining.  If they're gettin
	rich, it doesn't sound to bad to me.......

Alex
stevenra@feserve.cc.purdue.edu