From: lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Forward for Mr. Anonymous (A Korean's answer to Chinese questions)
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:35:49 GMT

Again, this is a forward, not my own article.
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Dear Lix,

I have not been following the soc.culture groups regularly.  Recently 
I am monitoring s.c.korean for a vacationing friend, thus coming 
across this "What about China done to Korea?" thread on scc.

Frankly one of the reasons discouraging me from reading scc more often is
having to put up with so many posts that were backed up by so little 
history knowledge.

About the Sino-Korean relationship in the past millennium, it might not
be an exaggeration to call it exemplary (considering what the rest of 
the world has gone through in the same period).  Now some people 
would have the nerve (never mind knowledge if they happen to
have any) to equate it to the recent Sino-Japanese relations.

For a Korean point of view on this, I attach here part of a recent 
post from sck.   I'll complement it later by giving some facts on the  
recent history when Korea and China were both under the savage 
aggression and/or occupation by the Nipponese imperialists/colonists.

I might as well add a footnote first that the (officially) first 
president of the Republic of China Mr. Yuan Shikai had a Korean
wife who had borne him at least one son.  Yuan married this wife
while stationed in Korea as a Qing general serving the (failed) Sino-
Korean military alliance against the Nipponese aggression.  I am not
sure if the famous nuclear-physicist Yuan grandson couple was from
this lineage. 

Encl.

>From: hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: the answers GMT was looking for (Re: Chinese questions)
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:18:07 GMT

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The major wars between Koreans and a unified Han China were: 
Han dynasty vs. old Chosun: Koreans surrendered 
Sui vs. Kokuryo: Sui Army routed.               
Tang vs. Kokuryo: Tang armies defeated.
Tang and Shilla vs. Kokuryo and Paekche:
       Shilla was a Korean kingdom. Shilla took the land of Paekche 
       and unified the peninsula, and Tang temporarily ruled
       manchuria, but lost it to Parhae which was founded by 
       remnants of Kokuryo and their nomadic allies.

Major wars between Koreans and China that was under the rule of
a nomads were:
Kublai Khan vs. Koryo : Koreans surrendered to the Khan
Qing vs. Chosun : Koreans surrendered to Qing
In both cases Koreans had sided with the Han chinese before.

Major alliances between Han Chinese and Koreans were:
Sung and Koryo vs. Manchurians and Mongolians
Ming and Chosun vs. Hideyoshi's Japan
Ming and Chosun vs. Qing
Sung and Koryo never fielded combined armies against the
Manchurians and Mongolians since they both were mostly on the
defensive. Ming sent an army to Korea that fought side by
side with Koreans against the invading Japanese. Chosun sent small
token forces to aid Ming against the Qing.

Alliances between China ruled by nomads and Koreans were
*Kublai Khan's attempted invasion of Japan
 The mongols never really trusted the Koreans - they chained
 the ships together fearing that the Korean sailors would
 desert them, and lost the fleet when the Kamikaze typhoon
 struck.
*Chosun sent 500 Korean musketeers to aid the Qing against Cossacks
 in border skirmishes on China's western frontier. This was several
 decades after Chosun had surrendered to the Qing.

Tributes from Koreans to Chinese Empires were usually voluntary when
China was ruled by Hans (Shilla-Tang, Koryo-Sung, Chosun-Ming). New 
Korean dynasties established their legitimacy by paying tribute and
receiving recognition from the 'Son-of-Heaven'(=ruler of China) in 
return, after overthrowing preceding dynasties. When nomadic nations
subjugated the Han chinese (Mongols under Kublai Khan, and Manchurians
in 17th c.) the Koreans resisted since they were 'barbarians' and paid 
tribute only after being defeated in long wars. Koreans fought the
Mongols for 40 years and Chosun defeated several Qing expeditions
before it surrendered.

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