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From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Advanced Fighter's Engine to China
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 21:06:17 GMT

In article <SOSC1069.92Dec25180821@highway.yorku.ca> sosc1069@highway.yorku.ca (Ming He) writes:
>No, buying technique is not wasting of money.  Buy products
>(merchandise) is.  I would like both side across the strait to buy
>advanced tech, regardless if that is for military or not.  I would
>enjoy it more if both side can share their imported tech, well,
>impossible now.
It is because that Russia is turning away from West. Just look at the 
"coincidency" of Yeltsin's China visit and U.S.'s Secreatry level offical
visit to China, you will see the connection. During 1989, Goby's China
visit, Bush invited himself to China. It is still a mouse-cat game triangle
even though cold war is over.
>
>--
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>From Beijing, China.  Like to watch to the transference of data.
From: feng-thomas@cs.yale.edu (Thomas Zuwei Feng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Yet another problem
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:08:57 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
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All right, seems you guys are all good at solving problems.  So here's a
good one:

Definition.  A rectangle is called INTEGRAL if it has a pair of sides with
integeral length.

Proposition.  Suppose that a rectangle can be covered by finitely many
disjoint integral sub-rectangles, then itself is integral.

Try to show this.  It is a non-trivial problem, but has a trivial solution.

tfeng
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 23 Dec 1992 18:33:13 EST
From: Robert Pan <IO11043@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: We Taiwanese have won this general election..
 <92358.004315IO11043@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <SOSC1069.92Dec23154811@wc19.yorku.ca>

In article <SOSC1069.92Dec23154811@wc19.yorku.ca>, sosc1069@wc19.yorku.ca (Ming
He) says:
>>    When will you Chinese chose your own government by your own?
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Note here.  He is a TIer.  He said YOU CHINESE instead of YOU
>MAINLANDERS.  He does not think he is Chinese.  But he use Chinese
>language as his mother tongue and also writing in Chinese.
>
>I'm always wondering why TIers don't think them Chinese.
>

Whatever he wanted to call himself is fine. But I would say that s/he
should not definitely be a Chinese if s/he speaks Chinese as native
language. There are a lot of people who speak Chinese, they are others
but not Chinese. Here, I mean, a Chinese is a citizen of China. But
people may still call them Chinese even they are not in this point.
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:33470 soc.culture.taiwan:16518
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:09:50 EST
From: <JXL124@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: [news] PRC closes French Consultant
Distribution: na

In article <92358.143323XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu> says:

>Then the next one is ... ?
The next one just landed in the Beijing airport.
From: yang@titan.ucc.umass.edu (HUAYONG YANG)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Yan Xing and Qi Gong, Is It Science?
Date: 3 Jan 93 20:09:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.1i7h5tINN88m
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucc.umass.edu

In article <X5b=V-+@engin.umich.edu> chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
>not want to say it is not true or anything else. If I did not
>go to Yan Xing's lecture, I would not believe that he can make
>my arm shaking beyong my control.
>

Do you know anything about Cui1mian2shu4 (h-?)?

Huayong
From: yfeng@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Yongbing Feng)
Subject: The Second Austrilia Satellite Has Been Launched Successively
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:56:41 GMT

Just got a phone call from Xichang, the second Austrilian satellite has been
launched successively. Congratualation to those scientists and engineers
involved in this shuttle. May they have Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: [news] Australian Satellite Lost
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 20:33:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.095403.6060@doug.cae.wisc.edu> yidao@cae.wisc.edu (Yidao Cai) writes:
>In article <2695@grivel.une.edu.au> xhe@metz.une.edu.au (MR X HE) writes:
>>
>>Australian communication satellite, launched by Long-March II last night,
>>was lost in the space. I am not sure whose fault it is. Sad.
>>
>>xh 22/12/92
>
>As far as I know, the Chinese side is responsible for sending it to the lower
>orbit and give parameters of the orbit to the US side.  This usually finishes
>several hours after the launching.  So it is more likely the US's fault if 
>the report were real.  I would interpret "lost" could not be controlled here,
>since the Chinese are not responsible for controlling it, it is less likely 
>their fault.  It's bad news anyway.
Radio Beijing reported that China side denied any responsibility. says
all data before and after launching were correct. and "hope american side
will find reason soon".
chunde
From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: when china wakes
Date: 2 Jan 93 15:06:05 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Boston University

In article <2B454B84.23191@news.service.uci.edu> ygu@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu) writes:
<
< "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com> writes:
<>(deleted)
<>The number of Chinese people died of starvation caused by Mao's
<                                                           ^^^^^
<>wrong policies, far exceeds the thousands, it was in many millions.
< ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<
< 50 -60 million is undoubtedly untrustwoorthy.

Why? It may well be very close to truth. According to "70 years of CCP",
(Hu Shueng, 1991), p369, the population net decrement in 1960 is 10 million.

The accurate number probably we never know, but 50-60 million won't be
that untrustwoorthy.

<(deleted)
<The following paragrph interests me, I wonder who wrote it.
<
<>>> *** Without the freedom of speech and true election , How can you be so
<>>>    sure?  Even most Chinese People you run into support it , are you
<>>>    really sure they will support it after listening to the debate between
<>>>    pros and cons? I believe in the 60s most of the people in mainland
<>>>    China supported Cultural Revolution , don't they?
<
<They not only supported it, they participated in it. Almost 100% of city and 
<Town people (over age 13) did participate because, guess what, they had

I'd rather say they were involved, rather than they supported the CR. Even
college students, far less than 100%, supported the CR. In my class of 25
classmates, no more than 5 actively participated. Well, free traveling
is not counted here as active participation.:-)

<"freedom of speech"!  Don't be surprised!  ....
<really big "democracy". And the result was violence. 

I don't think freedom of speech should be blamed for the violence, but
deep-rooted desire for power. Mao only used such desire as a vehicle
to move mass. Without desire for power, freedom of speech won't yield
violence, like on SCC.
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From: xzhao+@CS.CMU.EDU (Xudong Zhao)
Subject: Top 10 D-fighters in Chinese history
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:59:44 GMT

In article <Bzoqr0.Cwt@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v999qx29@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
|> There was a hot topic about Top 10 Chinese generals on this net weeks ago.
|> Some of the names in the suggested list especially those generals of PRC 
|> reminded me of the suffering many Chinese had been through. I wonder why there
|> are still some people so eager to praise and glorify those who brought nothing 
|> but death and suffering to their own people .
|> What China need today is science and democrocy . Why don't you people who are
|> interested in praising somebody change your attentions to scientists and
|> democrocy advocators?  


GOOD IDEA, let's list the top 10 D-fighters in Chinese History.

I have two and half candidate 

Shao4 Zhen4 Mao3 ( The guy executed by Johnny )
Meng4 Ke1 ( Johnny's student )
Johnny (half becouse of the Shao Zhen Mao incident )
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From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Keywords: Qi Gong
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:46:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.191658.18531@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> zhao@schaefer.UUCP (Kang Zhao) writes:
>
>I cannot tell you the truth but I can tell you a story. One of my officemate
>found a job in the past summer after he practiced Qi Gong for about 6 months,
>although he failed finding job in 90 and 91. When he began practicing Qi
>Gong, I asked him why he spent his time on QI Gong not on his research. He
>answered that Qi Gong can let you achieve anything you want. At that time,
>the most he needed was a job. My reaction was a laugh. But a few months later,
>he got what he wanted. Amazing? I have to claim that not everyone can succeed
>practicing Qi Gone. So I never believe it and never try to.  

It is fine to listen to your amusing comedy. You can shoot it into
movie if you want and put a title as science fiction. But don't try
to publish in any serious scientic journal. Otherwise you will be in
big trouble for your career. The guy in Utah who claimed success of
cold fusion has already had his career finished.

No body blames you if you tell such stories. But if it is the area 
of your research, if it is your job, you cannot randomly cast it.
C. N. Yang is a physicist and a Nobel Prize winner. People honored
him for his illustration of science, his seriousness. Science cannot
be misled. I think people have reason to question a scientist if the
scientist is dishonest or irresponsible.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Life in this United States of America (1)
From: Wenwu Cao <DZK@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:48:21 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Regarding the calling card, I think MCI made a mistake of putting a person's
phone number as part of the card number.  Anybody could find this information
in the phone book.  There were quit a few of this kind of incidents, but I
think you do not have to pay for the fraudulent calls as long as you report
promptly to the phone company.  MCI actually has made some changes to the card
number style. You should report to the phone company if such calls occur on
your bill.  They can chase down the persons involved in the call unless both
sides were using public telephone.
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From: leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Date: 1 Jan 93 08:01:28 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


  Is "Looking Back From 2992 - The Disastrous 21st Centry" the
  title of the original article in "The Economist"? Geez, 1000
  years later. The author may be too optimistic to our future.

  Happy new year. 999 more years to go. :-)

  /.../planet.earth/usa/arizona/tucson/leo.
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From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Bosnia Rape, What Could the World Do?
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:21:19 GMT

In article <C03n1x.CEu@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
|> >
|> >You are right. The news is not from People's Daily. It is a lie. Only People's  
|>  If people's daily tell the same story, I will believe it's true.
|>  but so far I haven't seen PD's report yet.
|> 
|> >Daily has truth. You don't even need to comment on this. Everybody knows that  
|> >only People's Daily speaks of truth.
|> 
|>   Mostly.
|> 
|> > Long live Mao Zhuxi!
|>   
|>   I shout this many decades ago.        
|>   Chairman Mao stands for honest, justice, truth, progress, correctness,
|>   peace, love, care..... that's the reason you guys hate him.
|> 

Chairman Mao would have been deriding your misapprehension. 
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From: xiaoyu@grumpy.SSC.GOV (Xiaoyu Li)
Subject: Re: Is Hong Kong people Chinese? (Was: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:04:45 GMT

In article <92Dec23.041909.19899@acs.ucalgary.ca>, bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
> In article <1gtkoqINNa8h@agate.berkeley.edu> vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:
> >>
> >
> >	Let me add some more :
> >
> >	If they don't think they are Chinese, get rid of their Chinese
> >	last name and don't use Chinese characters !!
>  
> If you don't think you are Roman, don't use Roman characters; if
> you don't think you are English, don't use English first names...
> 
> Right? :-)

I guess he has no choice for being here. :-)  Because there
is this saying -- "In Rome, fart as Romans fart". :-)

I think the guy was talking about those Chinese on China soil.
Of course, "foreign nobles" can still keep their foreign last
name in China. :-)

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From: gyu@bass.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: How can you win?
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:39:35 GMT
Reply-To: gyu@bass.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Boston University

In article <92352.193240XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu> XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Many discribe chinese with Du3 Xing4 Jian1 Qiang2(? strong gambling
>interest).
>I am going to G-city in a few days.
>Would you netters  kindly suggest some strategies to win,
>so that I can get money donated?
>And hope other people win more then donate more.
>X Xu
My suggestion is bring $100-$200 cash and go home as soon as you lost 
that much money. If you prepare to lose your money go and have fun.
otherwise change your mind before it's too late.
-Guo-Xiang
From: somebody@some.where.else (Some Person)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test 2 [1/1] {other}
Keywords: Anonymous posts
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:11:57 GMT
Distribution: ut
Organization: Some organization
Originator: wang@dorrit.as.utexas.edu

Please ignore, this is a test posting.
From: streb@ee.rochester.edu (Chuck S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Verify Address in Singapore PLEASE *****************
Date: 30 Dec 92 07:19:11 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

I have an address of a person named brosco who wrote a software
program in 1991. I would like to contact him

I have written to last known address but no response
	
	Yasmin Systems
	10 Maidstone Rd.
	singapore 0513

could anyone verify or look up in phone book this address

I would greatly and kindly appreciate the help 
thanks
chuck :)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: test
Reply-To: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:31:01 GMT

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From: v999qx29@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:43:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <C03GM9.82G@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes...
> 
>     Remember, it's not a matter of money on the Chinese side. and $2B
> is too little to consider for a nation with 10B people.
> 
>     I can understand, in most situations, Chinese and French can not
> understand each other, too much differences in these two groups of
> people/culture....in WWII, Chinese fought 8 years bloody battle with
> wooden sticks and knifes and rocks agains the invading modern Japanese
> army, while the French surrendered to German in days.... just one 
> example.





> 
     *** Another example is :Current French Leaders have to do anything
         to please their voters ( like recognizing CCP as the only ruler of
         China including Taiwan( which ,thank God, is far from the truth )
         to get some potential trade opportunities for the country's economy 
         or selling Mirage 2000 to Taiwan ,also for the country's economy) 
         so as to keep themselves in office while Chinese Leaders in Mainland 
         can achieve the same personal goal by simply killing dissidents(like 
         6.4 event) and still get support from some people like you. 
         How different are "some Chinese people" and French People!!!





>     I'm very sure, on the issur of HongKong and France, the Chinese
> government  have the support of most, if not all Chinese.A






    *** Without the freedom of speech and true election , How can you be so
        sure?  Even most Chinese People you run into support it , are you
        really sure they will support it after listening to the debate between
        pros and cons? I believe in the 60s most of the people in mainland 
        China supported Cultural Revolution , don't they?






>     American have a treaty with Taiwan, and F-16 is out of date, but
> how about the French, it recognize the PRC as the only Government of
> China including Taiwan province, but it sells  most advanced weapons
> to one of it's province, what's more, the weapons' only target is
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> the reat of the PRC. 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    *** The target of any weapon owned by Taiwan is the "invading" forces
        from any country or bandits not the Chinese people. 


> 
>    Just think about it! Do you still thing the French is doing anything
> right? it's really a shame. what kind of people would do anything only
> for money? (I did see a lot of this kind of people in certral Paris,I 
> was really surprised) 
> 
> 
>>Anyway since it's that time of year, I wish all a happy New Year,
>>zhu4 da3jia1 xin1nian2 yu2kuai4, bonne nouvelle annee!
>  Happy new year! Xin nian hao! bonne nouvelle annee.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: leiy@ul.ie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: puzzle?
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:57:50 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <9212152200.AA16705@euler.Berkeley.EDU>, xiaohan@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Xiaohan Yun) writes:
>  i heard this long time ago, after talked this puzzle to my
> officemates during coffe break, their comment was ' uhmmm...
> stooooooopid'; but we got a good laugh at it, so here we gooooo....
> 
> let's say, there is an intellegent cow who is facing west,
> and here is an boring fellow counting number from 1 to 100;
> when the cow hears a number it'll turn accordingly:
> if the number is a multiple of 2 then the cow turns 90 degree clockwise;
> if the number is a multiple of 3 then the cow turns 90 dreee counter-
> clockwise;
> if the number is a muliple of both 2 and 3, then the cow turns 180 degree;
> all other numbers, the cow stands still.
> 
> the question is: after the fellow finishes counting from 1 to 100,
> which direction is the cow's tail points at?
> 
> Xiaohan

The cow's tail points at You, because... ... the cow won't like to turn around
...
I read it as a joke rather than a pazzle.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Happy New Year
Date: 31 Dec 92 14:01:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.1256
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: yding@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


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