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From: cmhui@cs.cuhk.hk (Hui Chau Man)
Subject: Re: Triads and movies
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:53:57 GMT

sandyl@soda.berkeley.edu (Sandy Lai) writes:


>There was a Hong Kong film Festival in LA this weekend.-It continues through Tuesday the 29th. John Woo was there. Some one asked if there was a connection between the Triads and the Hong Kong film industry. Woo claimed he did not know of any connections between the Triads and the film makers. This seems contrary to rumors that I have heard. Does anyone out there know if there is a connection between Triads and the movie makers ??

I've heard that movie production is the best channel to clean up the dirty money
the triads had earned. 

C.M. Hui
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: e.lo@trl.oz.au (Edward)
Subject: Looking for LEUNG, Hing Cheong
Reply-To: e.lo@trl.oz.au
Organization: TRL
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:04:44 GMT

Hi,

I am looking for my friend

    LEUNG, Hing Cheong

who is now working in Toronto, Canada.

Anyone knows his email address, please so kind as to
reply to this message.

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: pfsum@cs.cuhk.hk (Sum Pui Fai)
Subject: 20 DIE in LAN Kwai Fong Tragedy
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 13:49:25 GMT

Extracted from "The Standard. 1-JAN-93"

CRUSHED TO DEATH

Twenty people were crushed to death in a frenzied stampede as New Year
celebrations at Lan Kwai Fing turned into a terrifying nightmare.

  The crush began before midnight as thousands of revellers in the
trendy nightclub area flooded the streets for the countdown for the New
Year.

  Horrified witnesses described scenes of chaos that broke out as the
clock struck midnight.

  As several fights erupted, the crowd, estimated as more than 15000,
panicked, causing a stampede.

  Several people fainted or were crushed as the crowd began shoving and
running for cover.

Police reinforcements were called to disperse the crowds towards the
waterfront and rescue the injuried.

A section of D'Aguilar Street and Queens Road Central were cordoned off
to facilitate the rescue effort.

  A fleet of ambulances rushed the injured to Tang Shiu Kin and Queen
Mary hospitals. St. John Ambulance Brigade set up mobil clinics.

  Twenty people were certified dead on arrival at Queen Mary Hospital
while 19 were being treated for injuries.

  Thirty-six others were admitted to Tang Shiu Kin Hospital. Their
conditions were not known.

  A witness said it was "just like falling dominoes".

  He said the crowds moved backwards and pushed down the people who were
standing behind.

  One woman saw more than 10 people lying unconscious on the ground.

  "It's a nightmare, many of the casualties were moaning and waiting fto
(errata: "to" not "fto") be helped," she said.

  The roads were sealed off by about 100 officers from the Police
Tactical Unit, and the area was strewn with shoes left by fleeing
revellers.

  The government has set up a hotlind for people who may be worried
about their relatives: 860 2310
From: kchu@unixg.ubc.ca (Kwan Chu Chu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Need info about HK TV program
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:37:55 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca


Can someone out there in HK provide me some info about foreign TV
Series shown in HK?
(Reply by e-mail please)

Thanx in advance....and of course, Happy Holiday.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: [movie] Re: Triads and movies
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:59:06 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Dec28.155639.21114@leland.Stanford.EDU> chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel)) writes:


>     Aigh (sigh)!  I posted several months ago, asking why there are many
>movies in Hong Kong with "black (triad) society" plots.  There are just
>too much bloodshed.  (Besides the fact that a lot of Hong Kong movies
>contain unclean jokes.)  The network response was that some movie-makers

I haven't watch too many HK movies but of those that I do watch;
there seems to be this message that triad people aren't too bad.
In fact, some of them might be quite "nice".  I hate that sort of
message.  I remember when I was at school, we were told not to
get involve with triad groups.  So what's change, the triad
society are still criminals and so why should the movie industry
somehow try to portray them as "battlers" in our society and that
they are not all that bad.
--
Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: good day
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 30 Dec 92 07:42:02 EST

bql: <1992Dec27.143142.21326@dec8.ncku.edu.tw>
   Subject: Good day

The following Chinese Text are in BIG5 code.

AF:

>Hi man!
>you can see my letter if you have a chinese system !!

>t
>s~

>^F,{bbxW.

HHbqWX{,oejhqxg
8 Bit code, HAn UUENCODE M UUDECODE F.

sKr

WHW
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: respose to jian chen's 8t
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:47:32 EST

In article: <1992Dec20.195239.12134@athena.mit.edu>
   Subject: Respose to Jian Chen's 8th article
      From: zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu) writes:


>In article <1992Dec16.143233.5930@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>,
>y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM) writes:

  lines deleted for brevity.

>The question is:  Why the Former SU, which now has a "free" market
>economy, and is no longer a "Communism" country any more, dose not have
>ANY economic growth?

Can you cleanup a mess which was accumulated through 70+ years, overnight?

Which is the cause of the economic misery of today's Russia?

You sounded as that Russia's economic hardship was caused by the
"lack of Communism", or you are trying tell us: that the free market
economy brought the economic hardship to today's Russia?


>The same question can also be rasied on all other "free" and
>"democratic" but poor+no growth+negative growth countries. Actually many
>of them are former colonies of UK/other western countries.

So the growth become the only gauge to judge the well being of am
economy?

I'm truly impressed by the logic of a "well educated" person. :-)

Let's say, a person with 10 dollars and has an annual growth of 10% ,
verses a person with 100 dollar and has a negative growth of 10%, which
one shall be better off in the foreseeable future?
Can you view "democracy" is the cause of the negative growth?

>Moreover, nowadays, those Capitalism developed countries, like US and
>UK, are enjoying their economic recessions. :)

Are you enjoying the feeling of success for having finally defeated the
Capitalists?   :-)

Without the trade and investment from those capitalist countries, do you
think that China can still enjoy the similar growth?

Let's hope, those figures of fantastic growth will not become another
"Great Leap Forward"  :-|

As long as the CCP is the only ruler in China, no one can guarantee that
those corrupted cadres will not cheat us again by doctoring numbers,
like some of them had done during the GLF, which caused the death by
starvation of more than 20 million Chinese.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: thomas@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Thomas F.)
Subject: Re: SCMP - 1/2/1993
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:21:04 GMT

In <1993Jan2.173242.19577@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> 92915855@cphkvx.cphk.hk writes:

>CASUALTY LIST

>Twenty-seven people were treated at Queen Mary Hospital - 14 have since
>been released. TWENTY WERE CONFIRMED DEAD UPON ARRIVAL.

>The dead:

>Koji Niizeki (male, 27)                 Huen Sze-fung (m, 26)
>Fullerton, Jody (m, 18)                 Wan Hung-yan (m, 25)
>Lo Hon-chiu (m, 21)                     Fong Kowk-keung (m, 19)
>Frith, Michael (m, 15)                  Yiu chor-shing (m, 30)
>Yu Yuet-on (m, 18)                      Li Yue-ming (m, 26)
>So Chun-fan (m, 17)                     Lam Chi-wah (m, 18)
>Kwok Yuk-king (female, 15)              Chan Hiu-ki (f, 20)
>Kwan Po-shan (f, 17)                    Yeung Yiu-ling (f, 17)
>Leung Ching-yee (f, 18)                 Chow Pui-yee (f, 20)
>Fok Shu-yin (f, 19)
>and an unknown male

>The injured:

>Lai Wai-shun (m, 17, asphyxia)          Chan Ho-kin (m, 13, asphyxia)
>Tam Yee-hung (m, 34, asphyxia)          Lam Lai-yin (m, 17, ankle inj)
>Lo Tse-kin (m, 18, chest contusion)     Lau Hin-kowk (m, 21, femur)
>Chan Hok-ning (m, 29, ankle)            To Chi-kin (m,15,knee & ankle)
>Tsui Chak-keung (m, 17, unknown)        Chiu Chi-wai (m, 20, limb)
>Dean Lancaster (m, 31, head)            Lo Man Kowk (m, 22,leg & knee)
>Jain Rakesh Rajendio (m, 15, tibia and ankle)
>Li Shui-chung (m, 35, tibia)            Wu Yin-ting (f, unk, back)
>Wong Shun-lai (f, 26, multi abrasions)  Cheuk Min-min (f, 17, leg)
>Koo Man-wai (f, 19, dizziness)          Wong On-chu (f, 17, ankles)
>Wo Wai-lan (f, 28, femur)               Yip Pui Shan (f, 19, unknown)
>Leung Yan-ling (f, 18, asphyxia)        Kwok Yuen-yee (f, 15, femur)
>Wong Mei-yuk (f, 27, brian contusion)   Yuen Ching-yee (f, 20, head)
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  My girlfriend is also called Wong Mei-yuk,27, and she's on vacation now
  in Hong Kong. This message just scared me to death. I am serious.
  Fortunately, i just called back to HK and found out that it's just
  a coincidence. My girlfriend is not the one in the injuries list.
  What a relief! (a serious one)


>Leung Yuk-ngan (f, 20, legs)            Leung Siu-keung (f, 26, leg)

>      A total of 36 were treated at Tang Shiu Kin Hospital. Three of
>them are still being treated:

>Cheung Wing-yin (m, 22, lower limb injuries)
>Poon Pui-shan (f, 16, lower limb)
>and a 20-year-old woman indentified as Ms Liu (shoulder injuries)
>      One male was admitted to Queen elizabeth Hospital.

>South China Morning Post, January 2 1993, p3




Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel))
Subject: [movie] Re: Triads and movies
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 15:56:39 GMT


     [From "Soc(iety).Cultue.Hongkong", Monday.  Follow-ups go there.]

     Aigh (sigh)!  I posted several months ago, asking why there are many
movies in Hong Kong with "black (triad) society" plots.  There are just
too much bloodshed.  (Besides the fact that a lot of Hong Kong movies
contain unclean jokes.)  The network response was that some movie-makers
are triad-related.  There does not seem to be many bloodshed Taiwan movies,
or perhaps those are not brought to the U.S.A.?

     Anyway, it is difficult to find a clean, feelingful (i.e. full of
emotion and love), whole-family movie in Hong Kong.

						Daniel Chung (Mr.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mak853@cs.cuhk.hk (Mak Ming Chi)
Subject: Re: Group in Dallas/Texas
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:50:28 GMT

chow@cssn09.ssc.gov (Ivan Chow) writes:

>Hi,
>    I am a new comer to this group.
>Are there someone now in Dallas/Texas area?

>Ivan

maybe you better find john ho :)
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 14:04:11 MST
From: <AUPCK@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Can small satellite got Asian News?

Hello everyone:
   Happy New Year to you first ! Did anyone have any experience receiving
Asian News using a satellite? Any news from Japan, Taiwan or HK will be fine.
My idea is to get a (little ear) from HK and may be I can receive the news or
program in here US? Wonder if that is possible.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. :-)
                                                           Philip.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ccgary@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Gary Young)
Subject: Names & addresses of airline companies & Flying Schools
Summary: I would like names & addresses of airline companies & flying Schools
Keywords: Names & addresses of airline companies & flying schools
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:44:36 GMT

I'am very interested in obtaining names & addresses of airline companies
and flying schools in your country.
I would like to correspond to the companies to offer trainees and students
the opportunity to learn to fly professionally in Australia, as well as
study for a higher degree in aviation science at the Air Training Centre,
Brisbane, Queensland.
For further information contact Gary Young

Thanking You

Gary Young                                                 Education Officer
Prentice Centre                                           Tel:+61 7 365 4359
The University of Queensland                              Fax:+61 7 365 4477
Queensland, 4072                                Email:ccgary@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au Australia
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William W. Lo)
Subject: Words of wisdom for the day 
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:48:57 GMT

	Here I sit, broken-hearted,
	All logged in, but work unstarted.
	First net.this and net.that,
	And a hot buttered bun for net.fat!

	The boss comes by, and I play the game,
	Then I turn back to net.flame...
	Is there a cure - I need your views -
	For someone trapped in net.news?

	I need your help, I say 'tween sobs,
	'cuz I'll soon be listed in net.jobs :-c

---Hope this isn't boring or/and bothering you,
	The huggable Koala :)
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From: tang@kawa.ssl.fujitsu.co.jp (liyue tang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HKPA.POPSTARS - New picture posted - chipic10.gif
Date: 24 Dec 92 03:05:37 GMT
Organization: FUJITSU SOCIAL SCIENCE LABORATORY LIMITED, JAPAN.
In-reply-to: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU's message of 23 Dec 92 14:43:05 GMT


Sorry. I cann't get newsgroup 
alt.binaries.pictures
alt.binaries.pictures.misc
and I cann't ftp to any other network because some constrains. 
If you guys can kindly mail me
some pictures posted before or repost them on this newsgroup or
alt.binaries.pictures.d
i will appreciate it.
thanks for your attention.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,news.answers
From: eechung@uxmail.ust.hk (CHUNG KAI CHEUNG)
Subject: Find my friend
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:58:36 GMT

Hi all (especially for those studying in University of Manchester),

	Could anyone tell me the host name address of Unix system in University
of Manchester? It is because I have a best friend (male!) who are studying in 
that University. Thank you for help!!

	My email address is eechung@uxmail.ust.hk .
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: LEE@KUB.NL (W. Lee)
Subject: Driver's license
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 10:09:16 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, The Netherlands
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

I've read some articles in this newsgroup about obtaining a HK license.
But I still have some question about that. Why should one apply for a HK
license, if he alread has a 'foreign' driver's license. Isn't it possible
for me to drive a car in HK using my dutch driver's license. 

How about the case for foreigners ? Do they also need to apply for
a license ? That's a rather important question for me, cause I'll probably
go to HK during the summer and I would like to be able to drive a car for
sightseeing. So I would like how the situation is for foreigner, cause I'm
considered to be a foreigner by the HK government, since I have the dutch
passport.




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From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William W. Lo)
Subject: Words of wisdom for the day 
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:02:40 GMT

	Hi there! This's William who's speaking. Unforturnately
I'm not here at the moment... But if you want to talk to my 
answering machine for a moment you may do so after the beep... 
Hahahah <Beep> :)

	OK. OK. The real thing is here:

	My {answering machine} series continues:

	"I can't come to the phone now, so if, well, actually,
I CAN come to the phone now, I mean, like, I'm at the phone NOW,
recording this message, but I'm doing this NOW, while you're 
listening to it LATER, except for you I guess it's NOW, like,
when you're listening to it...  I mean, like, wait, gosh... Heck!
This is so confusing..."   
  
---A chubby man with a white beard and a red suit will approach you
   soon...
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From: cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Address for Ming Poa Monthly
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:15:43 GMT
Reply-To: cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ()
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: cwlng@happy.cc.utexas.edu

Would someone please give the address for Ming Poa Monthly in Hong Kong.
Either post or e-mail is fine. Thanks.

Chris
cwlng@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: anthonyt@odie.cs.mun.ca (Anthony Tang)
Subject: Merry Christmas
Summary: just want to say hello!
Keywords: Merry Christmas
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:25:44 GMT

Merry Christmas to everybody from Hong Kong.  A message from St.John's Newfoundland, Canada.
From: Ernest.Yeung@f174.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Ernest Yeung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Chinese Running Dog
Date: 23 Dec 1992 20:31:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


* In a message originally to All, Lord Automato said:
la> |> No, running dogs are chinese people who serve the interests of their
la> foreign

la> No, running dogs are those who serve for their own
la> self-interests and betray
la> the interests of others fellow countrymen.

IMO, running dogs are those *only* serve for their own interests and betray
the interests of the whole human race.

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From: cs_cylai@uxmail.ust.hk (Dominic C.Y. Lai)
Subject: Re: Lan Kwai Fong Tragedy
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:38:34 GMT

	I have seen the news from TV... the victims looked terrible, especially
	for those who seemed to be suffocated.

	Obviously, we do not want these kind of tragedies happening again.  But
	what will the government do in order to prevent this?

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From: jeffzhao@sound.demon.co.uk (Jeff Zhao Jeffreys)
ReplyTo: jeffzhao@sound.demon.co.uk
Subject: Re: Looking for a watch!
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.19 $
Organization: Sound & Vision BBS (UK) 0932 252323
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:35:34 +0000


In article <1992Dec14.125913.2358@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> fischerm@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Martin Fischer) writes:

>
>> 
>>>   Could anyone tell me where I can find some special watches -- run 
>>> counter-clockwise?  My friend he's been looking for this a long time but 
>>> couldn't find any in HK.  I thought we must have in the United States.  >
>
>>I am interested on that kind of watch too!! 
>>If anyone has any info. about that, please 
>>either post here or e-mail to me.

Yep you can by these here in England.
If you get the magazine Private Eye there is a novelty section
look there, I saw an add for a backwards watch.
mail me if you caunt find it!

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