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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:32:45 EST
From:         a virtual stranger <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      10,000 maniacs

marsha asked for opinions and comments about 10,000 maniacs:
>I've been meaning to write this for days....Did anyone see 10000 Maniacs on
>Saturday Night Live this past week? I've never been a fan, but I really
>liked the stuff they did. Is it representative? What's the new album
>called? Is there stuff by them that I should pick up because it's better
>than others? Does anyone out there like them? I like the lead singer's
>voice...really unusual!

i missed both the snl appearance and the other late night tv performance
(was it arsenio?), but i've heard the new album quite a bit. it's called
_our time in eden_ and it is fairly representative of the band's sound
for the past three albums. there are a few new elements on this album,
such as the addition of horns, but the new album is typical. personally,
i'm much more fond of the earliest material, which can be found on _the
wishing chair_ (which features their insurrmountable "scorpio rising")
and on a cd reissue of their first two eps called _hope chest_. this ma-
terial has a manic edge to it that was lost as they began to skirt the
college radio audiences and move from being just a smalltown upstate ny
band. of the later material, _in my tribe_ is probably the most even,
though the most palatable as well. _blind man's zoo_ had a few really
good songs, but never really caught my attention all that much. _our
time in eden_ is similar, except that it is a bit lighter in tone music-
ally than _blind man's zoo_. their concerts, however, are worth seeing
if you are even a marginal fan. they're on tour this month and the begin-
ning of december, so look for them.

woj
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From: loj@cae.wisc.edu (Lo Jeffrey)
Subject: Re:      Re: Peter Gabriel Revisited
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:45:36 CST

In article <01GQZX4JGK0YB4TX0Y@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU> "The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny" <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU> writes:
>From: Ilia <CC29%IONA.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>
>Subject: Peter Gabriel Revisited
>>I have a version of "Here Comes the Flood" on Robert Fripp's _Network_,
>>which I suspect to be a compilation. Does this song appear on any
>>of Gabriel's albums?
>>          Ilia.
>
>Yep, that's on his first solo album (the one with the car).
>

Peter Gabriel has said that he prefers the Fripp version over the one on
his own album.  He blames this on "over-production" on his first album.
I have heard several versions of the song.  There is a version sung in
German on an EP.  There is another on his "Shaking the Tree" compilation.
Both are closer to the Fripp version than the original.  There are
bootlegs from his first solo tour where he plays both the minimalist
version and the over-produced version in the same concert.  You might
also be able to find bootlegs from the "So" tour where he also played
a piano and voice version.

Jeff Lo
loj@cae.wisc.edu
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:37:28 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: What Makes It This or That

        Jeff Beer says:

> Labels are used when you want to distinguish one style of music from
> another.  When it is necessary to do that, labels are required.
> On the other hand, the music is always changing, but labels don't.
> Sometimes people can't hear the music because they cannot put it in the
> category they think it should fit.

     Aha, and they just walk aroud until somebody creates a label
for that category, so they can communicate with other people and
finally make their opinion. BTW, sometimes the name of the band can
work as a label. I noticed that my ability to appreciate music often
increases when I learn more about the authors.

Well, if music is a message, you gotta know who's sending it... he-he.
             Ilia.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:38:14 CST
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Moose calls for the touring impaired

On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 17:01:15 PST <MASUDA@SJSUVM1> said:
>
>Why are all women taken, lesbian, hung up on physical appearance or just
>plain bitches?????  Present company excluded.

Not all women are this way, I've met the most wonderful woman who is muscially
intelligent, cooks good, level-headed, and is naturally very pretty not afraid
to go without makeup, however she was taken, but thats changed.....God has
never made anything more beautiful and precious than a woman and my personal
belief is that they are here to be pampered, if you treat them with respect
and admiration you'll get the same in return....You won't find them in singles
bars........L.W.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:08:00 CDT
From:         SOUND CAN WASH CLOTHES <TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Anyone recognized these lyrics?

>>>Hey there Allmusic addicts!  I was wondering if anyone might know
>>>these lyrics.  I cant remember all of them, but here a few from memory....
>>>
>>>        Sunshine go away today, I don't fell like singing......
>>>
>>>Verse?  How much does it cost? I'll buy it.
>>>
>>>Who sings this?
>Jeremy's guess:
>>I think it's a Cat Stevens tune, but I'm not sure.
>
>Nope. It was Jonathan Edwards. Kinda has that Cat Stevens crust in his voice,
>however. Good guess.
>Rick
>

Anybody else remember Jonathan Edwards' other "hit" which keeps him out of
the same league of one-hit-wonders as Shocking Blue. I'll give you a one
word hint: "buzz". First one with the right answer wins the allmusic trivia
crown for this week. My money is on John McIntyre.....

                                                       Tom "Buck-Naked"
Buck
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Subject: The irreverent reverend
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:30:15 GMT
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THE Rev Bob said:

>(1) What do you mean there's a new Bob, or that somebody else is
>the Real Bob?  The *real* Bob is (ahem) moi.

A thousand pardons O Holiness...I do not want to suffer your wrath, so I will
humbly step aside and remain simply *a* Bob (not *the* Bob)...B-)

>(3) What's this hip/unhip thing about Fleetwood Mac versus Hello
>Dolly?  Fleetwood Mac ARE a lounge band.

Why the knock from everyone on Fleetwood Mac? Now I know many of you prefer the
early Mac stuff (I only know "Hypnotized" and "Oh Well", but from the high
praise they've received I think I'll check into their blues stage a bit more),
but do you really think _Rumours_ is that bad? Or is it just a comparison?
Yeah, I guess they have been kind of "loungy" since them Californians joined,
but I still rank _Rumours_ right up there with other albums from the 70s (MHO).

Not a huge fan of anything from _Tusk_ on though...

Bob T
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:10:29 CST
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:25:37 MEZ
From:         Hosko <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Errmmm...CBMSTW

  'Fashings' (carnival) start today here in southern Germany. However,
it doesn't get into full swing until shortly before Easter. But, to
velebrate the fact here's a little quizz - who wrote and who recorded
the following song?



Can Blue Men Sing The Whites?
-----------------------------

Oh, I was lyin' in my bed,
Pulled the silken sheets up tight.
I gotta keep my strengh,
I've gotta do a show tonight.
I have a sip of coffee
While I'm takin' in the news.
Don't need to have a shave
'Cause I've gotta sing the blues.

Oh shit man.

Man, I think I'll get a massage,
Maybe loose a little fat.
So I have to go down town
In my brand new Cadallac.
My vallet, Carson, dresses me.
I light a big cigar
Because I like to look like Nimrod
When I'm ridin' in my car.

Can blue men sing the whites
Or are they hipocrites for singing blue?

Now it's getting nearer the time,
I gotta make the scene.
I change out my grey mohair suit,
Put on my dirty jeans.
The band come round to pick me up.
I holler "Hello boys".
I gotta mess my hair up,
I'm gonna make some noise.

Can blue men sing the whites
Or are they hipocrites for singing blue?

(Ladies and gentleman we'd like to do a little number
now that's been written for us during a depression
when everyone was very depressed.....Someone help!)

-------------------------------------------------------

Hosko
From: skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Sonia Kovitz)
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Subject: Re: What Makes It Blues
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:32:31 GMT
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              at Nov 11, 92 10:05 am

> Blues:  an attitude in the music to emulate or produce a feeling
>         or mood of sadness and sympathy for the poor sod who sings it.
>         Roots trace back to African chanting and Americanized
>         version of it by the Afro-American culture.
>

"mood of sadness and sympathy"  - NOT

Blues ==energy of dealing with the paradox(es) of reality

Blues transcends happy/sad -- up/down -- Blues is LIFE IN YOUR FACE and still
hanging in ... with style

That's all I've got time for but I had to say SOMETHING (or other)

Sonia
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:42:20 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      A Capella and teleology

Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen says:

> I suppose that to be rigorous one could say that teleology implies
> that this is the best of all possible worlds if (a) the creator is
> good, (b) the creator is omnipotent, and (c) the creator is finished.
> I don't think Aquinas would have disagreed with any of those.

    "The world was created by an evil-minded or inexperienced god"
                               Gorge Luis Borges.


OMC: watched Antoniony's "Blow Up" (excellent movie, btw - London in the
sixties, tons of marijuana, subjective reality, etc.) For some reason
I thought that the movie was shot in '65, but the music there (The
Yardbirds) seems to be a bit heavier than anything you would expect at
that time. Something wrong with my timing?

     Ilia.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:36:23 CST
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Comments:     Originally-From: Rudolf Daniel Riet <rdr4972@u.cc.utah.edu>
From:         Little Inquisitor <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: dig.rem.?

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I've had experience with Hendrix in both the analog and digital domain,
and have come to the conclusion that digital remastering has opened up a
bit more of the top-end (treble).  This is probably due to the virtual
lack of tape hiss in the digital format.  The bass was just a touch more
powerful in the analog versions, IMHO, but that could be due to the new
treble presence with digital.

The real bonus of the digital remastering is that some extra tracks have
been released due to the use of the original master tapes.  On the import
(in the states) of _Band Of Gypsies_, there are 3 tracks which were
unavailable on the previously available Capitol version.  On the live
stuff (Monterey, Winterland, Concerts), digital remastering has really
brought out the brilliance of Jimi's playing.  Winterland, IMHO, is one of
the best-sounding live albums ever recorded on analog.

Just to let you know!

Rudi Riet
rdr4972@u.cc.utah.edu
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From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: Jazz Guitar: Russell Malone
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:34:41 GMT


Has anyone checked out the new release by Jazz
Guitarist Russell Malone on Columbia?

What do you think?

-------------------------------------------
The CD is _Russell Malone_ (Columbia CK 52825)

This is a debut recording for Malone. It contains
a wide range of material from tunes in the Wes Montgomery
vein, Blues, and Solo Classical Guitar (Flowers For Emmet Till).

The compositions are "obscure" standards and two original tunes.

See the October (September ?) isse of JazzTimes for a brief article on
Russell.


tracks:
-------
 1. Wives And Lovers (David/Bacharach)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 2. Invisible Colors (R. Malone)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 3. When I Take My Sugar To Tea (Fain/Norman/Kahal)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 4. It's The Talk of The Town (Symes/Neiburg/Livingston)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 5. St. Louis Blues (W.C. Handy)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Milt Hinton

 6. I Don't Know Enough About You (Barbour/Lee)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar/Vocals
   Harry Connick, Jr.: piano

 7. Close Your Eyes (Petkere)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 8. London By Night (Coates)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 9. I Can't Believe That You're In Love With Me (McHugh)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Harry Connick, Jr.: piano

 10. Moonlight Serenade (Parish/Miller)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 11. Flowers For Emmett Till (R. Malone)
   Russell Malone: Classical Guitar

 12. Precious Lord (T. Dorsey)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums
------------------------------------------------





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Date: Friday, 6 Nov 1992 20:00:30 EST
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
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Subject: Re: Frank Morgan

In article <9210310251.AA04731@andy.bgsu.edu>, jkh2001@ANDY.BGSU.EDU says:
>
>>
>>A quick phone check with my local CD store revealed several older FM albums,
>>on the Contemporary Jazz (Fantasy), Savoy, and G&P lables. There were about
>>a dozen, so I didn't get the specific titles. He's also got a brand new one
>>out called "Do You Believe in Spring", on Island/Antilles. I've got Mood
>>Indigo and enjoy it immensely, but that's it. I know nothing of his earlier
>>stuff.
>     Thanks for the info.  Morgan's other post-prison album is called A
                                   ?!^^^^^!?
>Lovesome Thing and is as good as or better than Mood Indigo.  It also

Excuse me, but with the three albums mentioned above, Frank Morgan has
nearly 10 post-prison albums.

I have the following, all on the Contemporary label, released between
1987 and 1989.  I believe there are also another one or two releases
prior to this that are still post-prison.

Morgan, Frank & The McCoy Tyner Trio             Major Changes
Morgan, Frank - Allstars                         Reflections
Morgan, Frank - Quartet                          Yardbird Suite
Morgan, Frank - Quintet                          Bebop Lives!
Morgan, Frank/Cables, George                     Double Image
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                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

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you will not understand my words.
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:47:32 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Racking my brains...anyone want to break?
              6 Nov 1992 20:45:52 -0500 from <mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:45:52 -0500 <mjferzig@MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>Dear jazz folk...
>
>I don't know who does it. I think the song is called Corner Pocket, and it
>may have been done by Weather Report of Spyrogyra, or someone like that.
>The show was in 1987, so it would have had to have been before that. If
>anyone can tell me the name of the group and/or album, I would greatly
>appreciate it. I know that that isn't a lot of info, but you guys are quite
>a wealth of info...

You gave just enough info - I just happen to have 3 WR albums, and the first
cut on their '85 recording, Sportin' Life, is Corner Pocket. Composed by Joe
Zawinul, featuring Bobby McFerrin, Carl Anderson, Dee Dee Bellson, and Alfie
Silas on vocals.

Paul Heroy
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:28:53 EST
From:         Mark Reynolds <ALI00MDR@UNCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fret buzz from Hell
              4 Nov 1992 23:36:03 -0800 from <rkeller@EIS.CALSTATE.EDU>

Most likely your the victim of a low set up of your bridge saddle. Lots of stor
es like to sell their guitars with the action set so low that it doesn't allow
the bass strings to vibrate properly. Since you've noticed it on the bottome
three strings and when you strike the string harder,it's likely the situation
with your guitar. Find a good repair shop that has a good reputation for work-
ing with acoustic guitars and have them set the string height for you.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:05:59 CST
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: I bought a marimba yesterday!

Congrats, Bloomdido, on your marimba!  I think you've struck on something.
What my music needs to get off dead center is an instrument to fix.
I'm 100% serious about this.  After I finished taking a soldering iron
to my synth I produced a whole bunch of stuff.

So when do we get to hear some of your stuff?

About the Fripp thing -- when do we get to see the Belew/Levin Crimson?
I read two contradictory things on the discipline list.  One had it
way out in 1995 and another one talked about the start of next year.

I see you've also discovered the secret of life -- bass players can
always find work.

Terrific post, Migwell.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:07:42 EST
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      Studio demo

Heh man, good luck and good vibes ! My would-be blues band is still stuck
in stupid practice space/working schedules/personnel bullshit. I'm getting
re-pissed off. So I wish you all the best. My next move is to nail down a
studio where we can do the same thing you're trying. Another bummer - a bar
owner and prospective gig-payer just told me tonight she's laying off the live
music because off pressure from BMI and ASCAP who want money annually for
any live band or recorded tapes that might infringe upon royalties. Just
when you thought the economy was recessed enough, ya know ??

Oh well, good luck anyway !
                                              ...walt...
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:08:15 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Little Wing

On Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:54:00 EST <LAURAL@MIDD> said:
>        Little Wing is a Jimi Hendrix tune.

I was just listening to this last night - it's on the Axis Bold as Love album,
if anyone wants to know the specific one. The CD was cleaned up with the No
Noise system, and sounds pretty darn good to me, though I can't compare it to
the original vinyl LP. The worst thing about LW is that it's TOO SHORT! It
fades out after only about 2 1/2 minutes. There's also a live version on the
Stages '68 CD, and I'm sure there are others.

There's a really terrific version on Stevie Ray Vaughan's posthumous
compilation, The Sky is Crying, and another version on Sting's album Nothing
Like the Sun, which is orchestrated by Gil Evans, who has yet another version
(which I've yet to hear) on one of his albums. Great tune.

Paul Heroy
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:39:30 EST
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What I got this weekend (as far as cds)
              masuda" at Nov 9, 92 11:39 am

>
> While we're on the subject, there's this other tune that goes:
> "Those were the days, my friend   we thought they'd never end...."
> sung by a female folky singer,
> that I would like to know WHO did it.
> Really catchy melody from (I guess) the early 70s.
>
Her name was Mary.... and she was a protege of the Beatles and as soon as I go
into a hypnotic trance I'll get the last name for you.  Stand by.

It was based on an Eastern European Jewish folk melody (why else do you think I
remember it??)

Sonia
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:04:08 MST
From:         Madame Palindrome <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      friday the 13th part I

I feel like putting on Stevie Wonder's _Superstitions_....  ;*)

What do you feel like playing on such a significant day?

I think I'll line my bedroom walls with mattresses now,
Libby Doe,
the howler...