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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: ISO, Atari Corporate History material
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:00:12 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st

exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague) writes:

>For older (pre-Tramiel) Atari history, there is an out of print book
>called "ZAP!  The Rise and Fall of Atari."  Try looking through used
>bookstores or maybe college libraries.


The book is out of print, yet Atari is still selling computers.

How ironic.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: bjgrier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject: Re: Falcons made in Iraq?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:42:59 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research

> The "truth" is that the Al Rashid hotel was not actually struck by an errant
> cruise missile... the damage was caused by some dweeb in the lobby who powered
> up an Iraq made 110v Falcon on 220v ac and the DSP blew!!!
> 
> And if you believe THIS, I've got some prime beachfront property in New
> Mexico you might be interested in!  :)

I've got some property between the Florida Keys ...
From: selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Recommended Falcon monitor?
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:02:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: selick@csa


What is/will be the recommended monitor for the Falcon (if/when it
becomes available to me) to be able to use all of the screen solutions
in all of the colors, and in a reasonably crisp manner? I'm hoping that
the answer isn't a $1200 monitor from Atari (the price I'm hoping the
Falcon will cost with 4 megs and a 65 meg hard drive). Will there be
support for other lower cost monitors that, perhaps, the IBM community
has been using for years and I might find used for $3-$400 US?  Also,
they (Sam Tramiel in Boston in October) said that the Falcon could
display sm124 monichrome mode on a color monitor. Is the SM1224
acceptable for this, or are they speaking of some $600 multi-sync
monitor? I'd like to sell (not now, but when I'm looking to trade in for
a Falcon) my 1040 ste w/4 megs, an sm124, and a sc1224 to pay for the
falcon & a monitor. What will this system be worth when the falcon comes
out (speculations, of course) and what would I get for a used Supra scsi
host adaptor? (Assuming, of course, that I won't need one with a
falcon).
From: baffoni@phakt.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: SCHWARTZ+RICHTER Animations for ST/e?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 10:10:10 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <93020.172924EENG6826@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> <EENG6826@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
>I think I converted something called Amy vs The Walker to .SEQ format.
>I'll have to take a look. Its probably BIG!

	This has made me curious.  I know lots of graphics stuff dies on a TT 
(Gemview is a big exception, Mgif too), but what animation stuff works on the
TT?  What plays .SEQ?  

	And while I'm on it, where can we get a copy of this Amy Vs The Walker?
(and what is it?)

>Carlos Varela

-MikeB
From: awest@ub.d.umn.edu (The Piano Man)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: RAM Disk, .lzh files
Date: 22 Jan 1993 13:42:31 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

Just a couple questions:

	1.  What is a RAMdisk?  How do I create one?
	2.  What do I use to extract ".lzh" archives, and where
	    can I get instructions?

Please email some help!

Sincerely ignorant,

Andrew West
awest@ub.d.umn.edu

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From: sledge@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Bueschgens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Using Atari ST & UNIX-Box with NFS-Like software
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:10:18 GMT
Organization: RWTH-Aachen, Deutschland, Europe, World
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

Hi folks,

I'm desperatly in search of a solution for my problem.
At home I'm running a 486/33 with 16mb as an ISC-Unix box.
But still there is my old atari-st with 1mb and a 50 mb harddisk,
tied to my unix-box via rs232, using 19200 baud. so far, so good.

Using uniterm or any other terminal-soft it is possible to use the
atari-harddisk for sources or seldom used resources.
BUt this solution is not perfect. It must be possible to access the
ataris HD directly from the AT, but how. 
Something like a NFS should it be.
So here my question to you atari-wizards (hope there are some):

Is there any PD-soft (or cheap soft) which covers my needs ??

_ANY_ help will be appreciated. 

answer via email, please. I'll post a summary, if desired.


Thanks in advance   Thomas


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: malay@sae.com (Bob Malay)
Subject: Re: FALCON is DEAD!
Reply-To: malay@sae.com
Organization: Template Software
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:41:34 GMT

In article 9301204372@ritz.mordor.com, ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz) writes:
>AL RASHID SHAHIR (alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote:
>
>OS/2> Oh yes, you say the future is in IBM? Fat chance from a 
>OS/2> company just about to fold!!!
>
>Bahahahahaha!  IBM is the largest computer manufacturer in the
>world.  It is so entertaining hearing a user of Atari products
>predicting the "fold"ing of IBM.  I think I'm going to have to put
>that one in my .sig.
>
>Chris

Just to clear something up - IBM does NOT sell the most computers in the
world - in fact, IBM is lucky to be number 3 - Apple outsold everybody in
1992. If you add IBM machines + clones then total machines sold will be
more than everybody else sells - but the clone manufacturers are going to
be the death of IBM as a PC manufacturer - why do you think they need to
layoff so many people - why did they record nasty losses for 1992???

Apple will sell its 11 millionth machine sometime this month - thats a HUGE
user base!

IBM (as we used to know it - Big Blue) will not exist - expect them to
discontinue manufacturing, marketing, and distribution of their own machines.
IBM's future is unclear - but the PC won't be in it - count on that! And
you can blame the hundreds of cloners and Microsoft!

Bob Malay
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hardrive problem!
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 10:37:24 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET International News Gateway in New Zealand

storm@fwi.uva.nl (Richard G.C. Storm (I89)) writes:

> Hi all,
> 
> A friend of mine bought a new harddrive for his atari.
> It runs fine and works well until he switches off his computer.
> After switching it on again some records and files are just
> missing.
> 
> Anybody out there had the same problem and knows what to do
> or should he just buy another :-)
> 
> Thanks Richard
> 
> -- 
> Richard Storm, storm@fwi.uva.nl || 
> University of Amsterdam.
> 

 The most common problem is a 'write cache' in the autofolder causing
 it.  Check to see if there is one enable and if it is disable it.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: healy@nosc.mil (Mike Healy)
Subject: Re: Falcons made in Iraq?
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:28:24 GMT

Oh, I'm afraid you have been misinformed. They're being made in Libya :-)



Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jkrakover@sma2.rain.com (jonathan)
Subject: Spectre GCR *******FOR SALE********
Organization: Guns for Peace
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:47:12 GMT

FOR SALE.........LAST CHANCE

Spectre GCR with ROMs-----Everything you need to plug in and go.  An excellent
Mac emulator.
The high bid is $200 and the unit will be shipped out Monday if there are no
higher offers.  I got a lot of bids on this unit, and if your in the market
for one, I really doubt you'll find a lower price.  So make your bid.

Thanks,
Jonathan
503-666-8568

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From: rossin@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ted Rossin)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 16:30:28 GMT
Subject: Re: problem with 4 meg expansion on 1040 ste..
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st

Pull the old ones all the way out.  You don't want them driving the data bus.

			Ted.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: S112397@UMRVMA.umr.edu
Subject: Re: Leonard Tramiel Sin List
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:32:37 GMT
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla



> Hello my friends, I would like to know why there is a dislike for
>Leonard Tramiel ? As you may be able to tell I am clueless on this topic.
>Any way I would like a cronological list of sins against Atari users ... by
>this mysterious nemesis.
He exists. Hey, isn't that enough?
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: UNIXMODE aware file utilities?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:39:47 +0100
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de

Hi Atari Networld,

having learned about UNIXMODE recently, I  wonder  whether  there
are  file utilities (you know, those goodies like ls.ttp, cp.ttp,
rmdir.ttp etc., that make shells fun to use)  that  are  UNIXMODE
aware.  All I could find so far is a package called futilbin.zoo.
This is pretty complete, works well, but it doesn't seem to  know
about  UNIXMODE.  The  files  in  that  package  were  created in
November 1991. Are there any more recent versions available?

Greetinx & many thanx in advance,

Jan

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From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Some realism in the flame wars, please!
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 24 Jan 93 10:04:48 GMT

Original to: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
In a message of <18 Jan 1993 06:20:1>, wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
(3:713/602) writes:

 ws> OS/2 does NOT HAVE 'TRUE' multitasking!
 ws> 
 ws> Multi-tasking is running 2 or more processes AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!

(Rolls on floor, holding sides and narrowly missing squashing the cat)

What the F* have you been smoking??

I was pretty sure you had your facts stuffed, now I _know_ it.

 ws> TARI  | | \_/    Steve Wells - Wellington, New Zealand.           |

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From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GIF viewers and GIF89a
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:53:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: golem.1jus3uINNcja
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

> Frank
> frank@jplpost.jpl.nasa.gov

There is a PD program that converts GIF-89a into 87a format.  89-a
really is pointless, as it seems to make no difference at all in the
size or structure of the GIF file that actually make life easier.


WHat actually *is* the difference between 89a & 87a!?  (Apart from
the 89a etc. at the start of the file...)

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From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: PERSONAL to #### D. OAKLY ####
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:51:41 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.


Personal to D. Oakly ( Birmingham, UK ).

Tried to return your mail but it bounced.
Please mail me with a valid address.


Antony.

Norwich Atari User Group.
Associations of Atari User Groups.
Dolphin Software.
Great Britain.


ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk
From: tbrown@cis.ohio-state.edu (ted croft brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon, Falcon who has got a Falcon
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:35:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: tortoise.1k56veINNpf7
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <C1Hnxn.nJ@ecf.toronto.edu> giggey@ecf.toronto.edu (GIGGEY Mike S) writes:

>Whats so different about the Falcon doing this for graphics when all data
>bus transfers on the PC are done at 16 bits and depending on your setup at
>8 bits.  Not only that, the data transfer speeds are limited on the PC
>further slowing down graphics speed.  Plus the PC doesn't have a blitter.
>

This is not true for some Local Bus machines.  The Local Bus is wide enough
to support a graphics card with enough bus leftover to snarf stuff off the
harddrive at amazing speeds.

But, if the info I just read off of ibm.pc.hardware is true, then using an
IDE harddrive is useless as they all have controllers timeed to 8Mhz and
have to be reworked to work with Local Bus.  (One person called Maxtor and
they hadn't started yet!)  Unfortuantly I think there are Fast SCSI II
Local Bus Cards....

Of course we are talking a significant $$ over the Falcon here!

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From: molin@ptb.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcons made in Iraq?
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:09:41 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ptb.cl.msu.edu

SML108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>One question to the people who have claimed the Falcon is being produced in
>Iraq:  If this is true, then how do they get past the total trade embargo
>placed on Iraq by the United Nations?

They haven't...
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From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Piracy...? (was: ADVOCACY: Re: a blurb)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:41:17 +0100
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: rs1.rrz.uni-koeln.de
Keywords: PC piracy

In <H.ea.FH&lt92CZgQ@yonder.equinox.gen.nz> craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:

>There's tonns & tonns of ST stuff pirated. I've heard that there's people
> around the world that have thousands of copies of pirated software.
>There are groups in some places in europe where it's perfectly legal
> to copy anything (no copyright laws covering software) that crack
> the protection off each new piece of software when it comes out and
> release the unprotected version with their groups name all over it. These
> copies manage to make their way all around the world so many ST owners
> must be sharing pirated stuff around!!

I wonder where in Europe those places are... at  least,  I  never
heard  of  such  places before. If they exist, don't they make an
excellent test case for verifying all those predictions that  are
made  by people arguing for or against copyrighted software? Tell
me more!

Greetinx, Jan

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From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon, Falcon who has got a Falcon
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:21:11 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD
NNTP-Posting-Host: backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de

In article <1993Jan22.162113.13989@bsu-ucs> 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>> You see, the CPU doesn't spend all it's time accessing memory.  Many
>> instructions involve no memory access at all.  Others access memory,
>> but also spend a lot of time processing the instruction.  And if an
>> instruction or data is already in the on-chip cache, it will be just as
>> fast regardless of the bus width.  
What about if a DMA transfer is going on, is this done over the video 
(32 bit part) ? 

>can someone make a list of typical sorts of programs that would be really
>"memory-intensive" so as to really suffer from this 16-bit memory bus?
>
Anything that's video intensive f.e.

Nat!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Subject: meta-RFD.comp.sys.atari
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:34:18 GMT

I can go ahead and set up a Request for Discussion for some new Atari
related newsgroups.  What I'd like to get from you are ideas about what
new groups are needed, what sort of postings would be appropriate, etc.
If anyone has information on the current Atari newsgroup 'reasons for
existence' (aka charters), please forward them to me.

The proposal will probably look something like:

	comp.sys.atari.advocacy	(Not.  But the flame-fest could go here...)
	comp.sys.atari.announce (A moderated group.  Good place for FAQs)
	comp.sys.atari.8bit     (Keep the older newsgroups around, eh?)
	comp.sys.atari.st       (Ditto.  Charter expanded to cover ST'e')
	comp.sys.atari.falcon   (It is enough different, once it comes out)
	comp.sys.atari.tech     (Get rid of 'st' specifics.)

Send me e-mail (no, don't bother discussing it in this newsgroup, since
there will be plenty of time to do that sort of thing once a REAL 'RFD' is
written up).

I expect the RFD to be written up no later than 1 February, with a CFV to
follow in early March.  By April I can afford a Falcon, and the new\
newsgroups will have been created (or not.  It DOES take 100 more 'yes'
than 'no' votes and a percentage of yes/no votes besides.)

-- David Paschall-Zimbel

P.S.  Feel free to suggest other newsgroups.  I've checked out the Mac,
Amiga and IBM newsgroups, and these are the more popular choices, along
with .misc, .hardware and .apps ...
From: rwa@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Some realism in the flame wars, please!
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:05:21 GMT

wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells) writes:

>OS/2 does NOT HAVE 'TRUE' multitasking!
>Multi-tasking is running 2 or more processes AT THE EXACT SAME TIME!
>You can't do this without a chip to do it, or without halving the
>speed of the machine for each extra process!  (e.g. every program
>you wish to multi-task!)

This is a use of the term `multi-tasking' with which I was not
previously acquainted.  In fact, the entire field of Computing Science
is not aquainted with it.  You are describing multi-processing.  Have
you considered taking a few CS courses?  Just basic survey courses
would be helpful, by the sound of your posts.  They're easy credits;
you know, `hacks for jocks' (apologies to geology's `rocks for
jocks' courses).

BTW, multiprocessing with heterogenous processors is generally not
much good in general purpose computing environments.  It gets too
difficult to optimally distribute the threads of a job when they're
architecturally dependant.  All the really whizzy multi-processors
are homogenous; for instance, big Crays and the Connection Machines.

Now as regards the claim that the DSP chip is a big performance
enhancement -

The idea that you can get big gains *in the general case* from
specialized hardware is often referred to as "Pike's Inequality", and
has been tried (and subsequently abandoned) repeatedly in the history
of computing.  Spending the transistor budget on the CPU(s) always
seems to win out.  Come on over and lurk in comp.arch to get a feel
for the issues.

On the other hand, I cheerfully agree that special-purpose machines
(simulators, controllers, dsp's, games boxes, & c) can get useful boosts
by optimizing their architecture for a restricted problem domain.

regards,
Ross

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR: Knowing What To Do
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:18:03 GMT

In article 23808@ultb.isc.rit.edu, mrz5149@ritvax.isc.rit.edu () writes:
>Ok, recently I've seen confused folks posting about their problems with
>Spectre GCR. Well, I'll try and help you folks because I had some of
>the same problems when I started out with Spectre.

<stuff deleted>

>5. Dave is just ignoring me!! (or is he)
>
>Give the man a break. He is running a sing person runned buisiness. He used
>to give good service when he was just living off Spectre alone. He is now
>entrenched in tons of projects including wading through the tons of code
>in the color Mac ROMs, working on the newest Spectre GCR version,
>the Falcon GCR, the Chromax board, etc. This is straight from the horse's
>mouth so to speak. If you don't belive it, read his article in Current
>Notes. So give the guy a break! It's just him, his wife and his kids.
>The man has guts to do such a job practically alone!

Thanks to whoever mrz5149@ritvax.isc.rit.edu is for an excellent post (but
gee, I really wish you folks would include you name). I too have been a little 
concerned about how some folks have been slamming Dave for his lack of support.
He's only human, people, and he had some _very_ serious family problems last
year with a child near death and thereafter loads of physical therapy, so cut
him some slack, OK?  Sure, you are entitled to support but don't forget there
are other places you can go for answers (such as the above).  I find it amazing
that a man of Dave's talent has stuck with Atari for this long so let's don't
rush him out the door, OK?  Besides talent, he has good taste too (Fosters!). :)

Cheers,

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