HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kc@complex.ccsr.uiuc.edu (Kenneth Chang)
Subject: Software that supports RPI v42bis?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Center for Complex Systems Research
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:14:45 GMT

I just bought the Zoom PKT pocket faxmodem. I didn't read
the box closely enough -- it supports v42bis/MNP5, but only
through RPI (Rockwell Protocol Interface), which I assume is
software based compression.

Do any Mac communication programs support this software-based
compression? (I think QuickLink does, since that's what comes
in the bundle, but I really rather not use Quicklink...)

ken chang
kc@complex.ccsr.uiuc.edu
From: mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil (M. Scott Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: News readers over modem?
Date: 26 Sep 92 18:32:29 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


I'm sorry if this is a FAQ, I don't always have time to keep up with this
newsgroup..  But, here goes..

You all have been discussing news reader programs on the Mac; I am interested
in this, but I call up the internet with my Mac via a modem.  Does this
exempt me from these readers?  (That is, do I have to be directly hooked
up to the internet -- via ethernet and MacTCP or whatever, to use the news
readers?)

I have a feeling this is the case.  If so, are there any alternative
telecommunications programs which somehow will handle getting news?

I use trn currently, which is OK, but I find I often like to print/save
news articles for reference or later perusal, and right now I copy and
paste between my term program and a word processor, and it seems there
could be an easier way.

If I knew enough about writing a Mac comm program, then I would have fun
writing a term program that could recognize netnews and parse out fields,
text from articles, etc. and make things generally easier.

Of course, if something exists that does this, please let me know!

Thanks!

M. Scott Smith
  (mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil)
From: rthomas@terapin.com (Richard Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: USE-NET
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:06:51 PST
Organization: BBS

Does anyone know of how I can get USE-NET for my BBS running of Hermes 2.0 on
the Mac?  What about FIDO-Net?  Anyone know where I can get Tabby?  If you have
information on this,  could you please send me PRIVATE mail?  Due to
complications arising from not being able to get to my computer a lot, I can't
read all the new messages here on the Net,  so if you could send private mail
to me that would be great.  Thanx...
From: mem10@po.CWRU.Edu (Milton E. Moskowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: America on Line
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:05:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mem10@po.CWRU.Edu (Milton E. Moskowitz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, hmayor@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Heather Mayor) says:

>I believe it's possible to access America on Line and other
>similar services through the Internet.  I must have missed the
>announcement.  I would like to know the details.  Thanks!

Heather-
	It is possible to send MAIL to AOL and CompuServe via the internet
-- but as far as I know (an AOL user) - you can't access via the internet. 
If you wanted to send mail to AOL, it's "@aol.com" that you address the
letter to.  For CompuServe, you change the "," in the userid to a "." and
tack-on "@compuserve.com"  
	SInce I'm posting all of this, I might as well be thorough -- to
send to AppleLink -- I think it's "@applelink.apple.com" - or it might be
"@apple.applelink.com" -- I always confuse those two.
	But I do not believe you can actually -access- these via the
Internet.  (But it would be really cool and great if you could)!
-- 
Milton E. Moskowitz         mem10@po.CWRU.edu       IRC Operator Warlock
"We close our eyes and the World has turned around again.  We close our
 eyes and dream and another Year has come and gone" -Boingo
"Even Paranoids have enemies" -John Hale  "Oh Great Wizard..." -Michelson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: oster@well.sf.ca.us (David Phillip Oster)
Subject: Re: MacTCP, ASR's and completion routine hell
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:34:13 GMT

I have done this in a production system. My experience has been that networking
is so slow, because of the potential of retransmits and time outs, that ANY
useful network program must use asynch i/o and completion routines.

tips:
1.) ignore the ASR(). it is very hard to get this to work right.
2.) ignore the MacTCP high level interfac e. It isn't async so it is a
joke for anything real.
3.) Use a middle level interface that handles filling out the parameter
block for you. This is pretty trivial to write.  Embed the parameter block
as the first field of a larger structure, similar to the way a WindowPeek
has a GrafPort embedded in the front of it, but most things just look at
the struct on the front.
4.) in your main application, statically allocate all the data structures
you'll need. Statically allocate an array of queue records (See OSUtils
chap of Inside mac vol 2 for more information on these.)
5.) Use the global CurrentA5 to inititialize the ioCurrentA5 field of
your extended parameter block.
6.) Your completion routine should save the value of A5 in a local,
set A5 from  the ioCurrentA5 of the parameter block (passed in register A0
I believe) and restore A5 on exit.  Look in the file <SetUpA4.h> for
inspiration.
7.) Your completion routine can communicate with your event loop by 
dequeuing queue records from the free list (See suggestion 4) and 
enqueuing them on a pending list. Enqueu() and Dequeue() are guaranteed
safe to call at interrupt time.
8.) If you need more help, contact me. My consulting rates are $85.00 per
hour.
From: daven@notable.com (Dave Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Zterm and sz MacBinary Handshaking
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 16:49:07 PST
Organization: Notable Technologies, Inc.
Reply-To: daven@notable.com
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <BvB3sn.4F8@well.sf.ca.us> (comp.sys.mac.comm), wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene) writes:
| 
| Zterm 0.9 is supposed to recognize Macintosh binary data
| according to its documentation.  I assume that this means it
| knows to look for the three forks of a Mac binary file during
| a download and write them to disk as one file.  How do you
| specify the files to sz, though?  It doesn't seem to be smart
| enough to recognize the basic file name and then look for the
| three files representing the file forks.

For the most part, only Macintosh implementations of ZMODEM will
understand the MacBinary file format. A non-Mac implementation will
just see it as a binary file. By the same token, the non-Mac
implementations are unable to build a MacBinary file format and send
it. They can however, dutifully receive and store a MacBinary
formatted file (as binary data) and then later retransmit it.
MacBinary formatted files are one single file, so non-Mac host don't
have to be concerned with multiple files.

In summary, only Macintosh ZMODEM implementations will generate and
transmit MacBinary, or receive and interpret MacBinary. Non-Mac
implementations of ZMODEM can store and forward MacBinary files, but
they will never create them.

In your case, if you know that a MacBinary file is store on the host,
just have SZ send it as a binary file to ZTerm. ZTerm will see that
it is a MacBinary file and do the right thing.

--Dave

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Dave Newman                 |  AOL:      AFC Tinman
Artillery Spotter           |  ALink:    TINMAN
Notable Technologies, Inc.  |  CIS:      70743,3323
Voice:    510.208.4449      |  internet: daven@notable.com
FAX:      510.444.4493      |  
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jeff E Mandel <mandel@tmc.tulane.edu>
Subject: Eudora 1.3b90 works as MUA for uAccess
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-28618]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F7073644013009@mandel.anes.tulane.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Oct 92 15:04:54 GMT
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:04:52 GMT

This weekend I confirmed that Eudora 1.3b90 works as a mail user agent
for uAccess 1.6v1 (Or is it that uAccess 1.6b1 works as a mail transfer
agent for Eudora 1.3b90?). If you follow the instructions in readme.uucp,
specify the path to the mail file (in my case, "Programs:uAccess
Folder:usr:mail:Mandel" for the POP account, and the path to the uucp
file ("Programs:uAccess Folder:usr:spool:uucp:") for the SMTP account.
Note that the current version doesn't like long pathnames, so you may
need to move the uAccess folder to the root and/or rename it; Steve is
aware of the problem and says he will look into it.

When sending mail from Eudora, it is necessary to tell uAccess to call
the mailserver (or wait for the next incoming call).

Why would you want to run Eudora on top of uAccess? I have two reasons.
First, my wife is the primary user of uAccess in my house, so I have the
node configured with her address and signature; I have Eudora configured
with mine. Second, Eudora can automatically extract a binhex file; I have
a special address on my node to which I can send files, and they are
extracted and ready for me when I get to the machine. Crude, but until I
get the ISDN line, it will have to do :-).

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@tmc.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene)
Subject: Zterm and sz MacBinary Handshaking
Organization: Hell Hole, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:02:46 GMT


Zterm 0.9 is supposed to recognize Macintosh binary data
according to its documentation.  I assume that this means it
knows to look for the three forks of a Mac binary file during
a download and write them to disk as one file.  How do you
specify the files to sz, though?  It doesn't seem to be smart
enough to recognize the basic file name and then look for the
three files representing the file forks.  I've looked through
the doc. and man pages and tried all the combination of sz option
flags and Zterm transfer conversion items that seem
appropriate, but I'm obviously missing a trick somewhere.  I'd
appreciate any pointers.  Thanks.


					Bill Baker
					wab@well.sf.ca.us
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacIntercomm?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:23:30 EDT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <Conrad_Nobili-051092181702@nobili.harvard.edu>, Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili) writes:
> In article <6129.2ad01891@hayes.com>, bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
> wrote:
> 
>> While MacIntercomm does have this pre-emptive feature, Smartcom II for the
>> Mac was amoung the first programs to properly perform file transfers in
>> the background. It doesn't crash if you try to "do anything" during these
>> transfers. And it is extremely difficult to get it to abort.
> 
> But one *can* get Hayes Smartcomm II for the Mac to abort a file transfer
> simply by holding the mouse button down with the cursor in a menu for
> several seconds, right, Bill?  You said as much, just not as clearly, in
> your post.

It takes more than several seconds. It takes on the order of a minute to a 
minute and a half, depending on the protocol. That's a long time. Your 
finger will probably cramp before then. But yes, it can be done.

>> It is fine to be excited about the new features of a new program, but let's
>> not exaggerate.
> 
> Spare us.  Hayes is now on the receiving end of a truthful "exaggeration"
> and now it's complaining.  

I am not Hayes. My name is Bill Coleman. I only WORK for Hayes. My opinions
are my own. Read my disclaimer.

> I hope the publishers of MacIntercomm
> specifically target your product, perhaps even including a communications
> software "diagnostic kit" as one of many that can be induced to fail by
> performing *perfectly reasonable* actions like holding down the mouse
> button while downloading....

!!!!!! BACK OFF !!!!!!

This TIES business wasn't my idea. Don't sock me with the responsibility for
it. If you have a complaint about, write someone who can do something
about it -- Dennis C. Hayes.

I don't believe in negative advertising. But, I don't get to make that
decision. I'm just an Engineer. 

You can write Dennis C. Hayes c/o Hayes Microcomputer Products, at the
address in my signature. If you have a complaint about the TIES ads,
I suggest that you write Dennis. I certainly don't want any mail or
comments on the subject. It wasn't my idea.

-- 
Bill Coleman, AA4LR                ! CIS: 76067,2327    AppleLink: D1958
Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA   ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: egreen@waggen.twuug.com (Eddie Greenside)
Subject: Re: High Speed Modems, understanding...
Organization: Brite Systems
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:28:15 GMT

Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:

>Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo) writes:

>CM> It's "MNP" not "NMP". MNP stands for MicroNet Protocol. Is 
>CM> this some in-joke on your part, did you not know? 

>surely this was a slip, right?

>Micronet makes data storage devices.

>You're thinking, of course, about Microcom Networking Protocol, MNP.

>--Adam--
> 
>--  
>Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH
>UUCP: ...!n8emr!bluemoon!cmhgate!20.18!Adam.Frix
>INET: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG


Sort of funny that the guy blasted the other person for mistyping MNP,
meanwhile he screws up himself by not knowing the meaning of MNP.  Sorry,
but I couldnt hold back my humor.  I just assumed everyone on the net
figured it was a mistype or a slight error, but the other guy made a big
deal of it, and he screws up himself.. The saying goes, what goes around
finally comes around... it just happen sooner to you... hehehe. :)-
From: macdevil@netlink.cts.com (Leonard Cayetano)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: High speed modems... which to buy?
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:40:50 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

ar4@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Piper Keairnes) writes:

> I'm looking for a high speed modem for connecting to long distance BBS's.
> I am interested in general compatibility, and speed when connected to
> Trailblazer/Worldblazer modems especially. Oh... inexpensive would be nice.
> 
> The V.32, V.32bis, V.42bis descriptions in advertisments are not terribly
> helpful in describing actual capability/compatibility. Could someone please
> summarize the types of modems and modes available?
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> -- 
> Piper Keairnes - Computer Science   ** PUCC Consultant for money. **
> INTERNET: ar4@sage.cc.purdue.edu    **   Mac programmer for fun.  **

The November issue of MacUser does a very good job in describing the 
latest, greatest, and not so great features of v.32 and/or v.32bis modems 
out there.  I would take the Supra v.32bis (with the latest ROMS of 
course).

--                    
INTERNET:  macdevil@netlink.cts.com (Leonard Cayetano)
UUCP:   ...!ryptyde!netlink!macdevil
NetLink Online Communications * Public Access in San Diego, CA (619) 453-1115
From: Stephen Cooper <stephen@csd.uu.se>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Trashing files on mounted volumes
Date: 1 Oct 1992 08:17:58 GMT
Organization: Uppsala University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mac-4.csd.uu.se
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6F072C40A020C8C@mac-4.csd.uu.se>
X-XXDate: Thu, 1 Oct 92 08:17:56 GMT

Hello,
  I've set up a subdirectory on my mac where several people are to log
in.  I would like to allow them to throw away files & let them lay in the
trash as opposed to disappearing immediatly.  If I were to share the root
level, this would work OK, but I only want to share sub-directories. 
I'll be using TrashMan to empty the trash at regular intervals.

Thank you,
  Stephen
-----------------------------------------------------------
Stephen Cooper  	       	       	+46-(0)18-18 10 73 (voice)
Computing Science Dept  	       	+46-(0)18-52 12 70 (fax) 
Uppsala University, Sweden      	stephen@csd.uu.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Michael Brennan <mikeb@sam.amgen.com>
Subject: Re: Eudora and Qualcomm
Organization: Amgen
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:59:38 GMT

In article <sdorner-250992233303@dorner.slip.uiuc.edu> Steven Dorner,
sdorner@qualcomm.com writes:
>Yes, UIUC's license covers the MacTCP upgrade. However, UIUC is no longer
>developing Eudora; Qualcomm is, and Qualcomm has no such license.

This is slightly off-subject, but what is the future planned for Eudora
by Qualcomm?  One thing I'd very much like to see is for Eudora to
provide hooks for other apps to communicate with it.  It would be nice if
one could write a "mail-aware" application that relies upon Eudora to all
of the mail sending and retrieval.

Are there any such plans on the drawing board?
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: RE: High Speed Modems, understanding...
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 13:24:32 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo) writes:

CM> It's "MNP" not "NMP". MNP stands for MicroNet Protocol. Is 
CM> this some in-joke on your part, did you not know? 

surely this was a slip, right?

Micronet makes data storage devices.

You're thinking, of course, about Microcom Networking Protocol, MNP.

--Adam--
 
--  
Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH
UUCP: ...!n8emr!bluemoon!cmhgate!20.18!Adam.Frix
INET: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at (Rudolf R. Sinkovics)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: (none)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 14:52:03 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Is there a MacTCP based program that lets you have interactive
conversations on a Macintosh (like TALK  on a Unix machine) ?
- Rudolf

--

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     Department of Marketing                              
     University of Economics & Business Administration,  
     Vienna (Austria/Europe)                              
     Augasse 2-6                                          
     A-1090 Wien                                          
     Tel.:   +43-222-31336-4624                           
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From: jacobs@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: AmericaOnline
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:17:13 PST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

In article <1992Oct7.030737.10512@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
> In article <1asbn3INNlko@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> hmayor@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Heather Mayor) writes:
>>I believe it's possible to access America on Line and other
>>similar services through the Internet.  I must have missed the
>>announcement.  I would like to know the details.  Thanks!
>>*--------------------------------------------------------------*
>>H* Heather D. Mayor           *D*  hmayor@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu    *M             
> 
>    BTW, if an AO's user name is "One Two", then the address would be
> "onetwo@aol.com".

	I have been trying to send mail to someone with an America On Line
address and have tried using the @aol.com with no sucess. Any Ideas?

Karl

P.S. I can get to compuserve  with @compserve.com with no problems.
 
________________________________________________________________________________Karl Jacobs - Jacobs@cerritos.edu
From: Geoff.Simon@f537.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Comtelex Systems
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 02 Oct 92  01:30:22

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10,500 downloads in over 30 libraries
Everything from Adobe----- to Zterm and all between
Newswatch online-- Search for US newspaper articles  15 wire services
Encylopedia searches onlibe A-Z
Online games Forum 7 active
 
Many Echos/Netmail/ Public & Private local Message Bases & Advertising
Sysop Support Association-- Many BBS tools, utlities, surveys,
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--- Tabby 2.2
From: mandel@tmc.tulane.edu (Jeff E Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Eudora 1.3b90 works as MUA for uAccess
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:06:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Oct6.140655.16298
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
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X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Oct 92 15:06:57 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-15044]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu

This weekend I confirmed that Eudora 1.3b90 works as a mail user agent
for uAccess 1.6v1 (Or is it that uAccess 1.6b1 works as a mail transfer
agent for Eudora 1.3b90?). If you follow the instructions in readme.uucp,
specify the path to the mail file (in my case, "Programs:uAccess
Folder:usr:mail:Mandel" for the POP account, and the path to the uucp
file ("Programs:uAccess Folder:usr:spool:uucp:") for the SMTP account.
Note that the current version doesn't like long pathnames, so you may
need to move the uAccess folder to the root and/or rename it; Steve is
aware of the problem and says he will look into it.

When sending mail from Eudora, it is necessary to tell uAccess to call
the mailserver (or wait for the next incoming call).

Why would you want to run Eudora on top of uAccess? I have two reasons.
First, my wife is the primary user of uAccess in my house, so I have the
node configured with her address and signature; I have Eudora configured
with mine. Second, Eudora can automatically extract a binhex file; I have
a special address on my node to which I can send files, and they are
extracted and ready for me when I get to the machine. Crude, but until I
get the ISDN line, it will have to do :-).

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@tmc.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle)
Subject: Re: Current Weather Map on Tek Screen: HOW??
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 06:29:08 GMT

In article <abelbeck.1068628102A@tigger.jvnc.net> abelbeck@tigger.jvnc.net (Lonnie R. Abelbeck) writes:
...AccuWeather stuff deleted...
>Text only: telnet madlab.sprl.umich.edu, port 3000  (Set VersaTerm for Local
>Echo, Return is Newline, and Newline Mode)

I was aware of this, thanks.

>Maps via FTP: ftp vmd.cso.uiuc.edu, anonymous login, cd wx... I haven't looked
>here much.

I will check this out.  Thanks a lot.

Jess Holle