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From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: hate
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 03:35:08 EST

In article <1jppmdINN8uu@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>In <gd.02kv@evil.Demon.Co.Uk> gd@evil.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>> 
>> I would just like to say that I hate all you americans.
>> 
>> You have all these new TNG's and DS9.
>> 
>> We in Britain have NOTHING since the seasons 1 to 3 on TNG and the constant
>> re-runs of TOS.
>> 
>> I vomit westerly to the bastard nation.
>
>  Yeah, but at least we know how to make a decent sandwich.  And send more
>beer! :-)
>
Yeah, and we don't substitute ground pork for our hamburgers! It's 
sad when the best hamburger you can get in a country is from Burger King.

Chris


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From: msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood)
Subject: Re: Old ships in TNG and the Constitution class
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 05:55:48 GMT

<gentle reminder>

This should probably be in .tech . I'm not gonna start flamin',
but someone might...

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From: 00nderwin@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: D7-M Spec's and warp drive speeds
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:44:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1993Jan26.154442.14068
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1k0109INNaeg@digex.digex.com>, rcheek@access.digex.com (Richard Cheek) writes:
> 
> If some one could e-mail me some specs on the Klingon D7-M and maybe a grif
> of the ship layout, it would be muy appreciato'd. Also, what is the meaning
> of warp speed in light years per day? Using the 7000 light year in 2.7 years
> from a borg episode, I get that warp speed is ~ the 3rd root of the speed
> in light years per month. Any comments appreciated. (216 lightyears/mo;
> 6^3 = 216, warp six being the cruising speed of the Enterprise, no?)
> 
> Richard

	Better posted here so everyone can see it....

	I assume you are referring to the Klingon ship seen in ST:TMP?  If so,
here's what I know about it from blueprints from the first movie which were
printed by Wallaby.

	Klingon D-7M  aka  Klingon Drell-4 Battle Cruiser

	This is a "heavy" battle cruiser designed for offensive capabilities
to enforce the Empire's dictatorship.  It has been constructed to withstand
heavy phaser fire and is compartmented to accept multiple hull violations and
still maintain an operating crew compliment.

	Deceptively small for a "heavy" classification, this vessel is a total
warship with no comforts for it's personnel.  Cargo space can be converted to 
quarters for occupational battalions.

	Detailed specifications of the battle cruiser's defense and weapon
systems have not been declassified by Starfleet Intelligence.

	Normally, patrolling in "packs" of three, the cruisers are deadly
for a single Federation starship.  The new Enterprise class, however, promises
to even the odds.

	Specifications
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Overall Length		214.3m
	Overall Draft		 57.3m
	Overall Beam		152.4m

	Ship's Compliment
	Officers		 10
	Enlisted		375

	Performance
	Maximum Velocity	Warp 10
	Cruising Velocity	Warp 6

	Systems
	Weapons			8 Sonic-Disruptor Mounts
				20 torpedoes
				2 torpedo tubes
	Defense			Deflector Plates
				Cloaking Device
	Engines			Warp:  Dilithium Conversion
				Impulse:  Hydrogen Energy


		Model:  Drell-4
		Type:  Battle Cruiser
		Class:  Star Cruiser
		Released:  7912.7


Hope this helps ya out!

Nathan Erwin
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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST VI - Question?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 07:38:57 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:

> While we're on the subject, why didn't anyone try to use a universal
> translator to talk to the Probe in ST IV?  Of course, had they done so,
> the Probe's message would undoubtedly have been translated as "Where are
> the whales?"  Earth's humans still would not have had a good answer.

Wait a minute, I thought of one.  "Hi, this is the whales.  We can't
talk to alien probes right now, but if you'd like to leave a message,
we'll get back to you later.  Please wait for the tone.  BEEP."

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From: wright@FACL.lan.mcgill.ca (J. Wright)
Subject: re: Homosexuality in Star Trek
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Mc Gill
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:40:21 GMT

	
			I think that considering all the rampant intolerance for different
lifestyles and blatant homophobia that we're seeing today, particularly in
the southern US (where some people are actively trying to make
homosexuality a crime again), Star Trek has done a fairly good job in "The
Outcast" of being gay/lesbian positive.

		 I may be wrong, but I believe I have occasionally seen in the background
of a 10-Forward sceene, a same-sex couple holding hands and/or kissing. I
believe that in a futur episode, Star Trek will undoubtedly show (but not
necessarily hughlight) a gay couple as being a normal part of 23rd century
society.
	
	 You might also be interrested in the footnote to the term T'Hy'la when it
is first used in the novel of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, (I'm quoting
this from memory, so it's not exact): 

						"Since it is well known that telepathic communication between humans
and vulcans occurs only in cases of extrodinarily close freindship, rumors
started circulating that Kirk and Spock had actually become lovers, Kirk's
reaction to this rumor is as follows, "Though I have no objection to love
in any of its many human and alien forms, I have always found most
gratifying that creature 'Woman'. Also I would hate to be thought so stupid
as to have chosen a partner who only comes into sexual heat once every
seven years."  


wright@FACL.lan.mcgill.ca

"Malt does more than Milton can to justify God's ways to man."

"No, I'm from Iowa, I only work in outer space"
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From: ten0772@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (Timothy E. Neto)
Subject: Re: TNG AND G.O.D.
Organization: be41t
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:29:18 GMT

paul.parkhurst@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Parkhurst)  writes:

>-> It appears to me that TNG discounts the possiblity of a benevolent,
>-> caring higher power at every turn, whether believed in by "lower"
>-> cvilizations, or just by their belief in thier own ability to resolve
>-> any crisis that comes up.

>   I believe in the TOS episode "Who Mourns for Adonais?" (where they
>meet Apollo), Kirk says something like "We find the one God quite
>sufficient."  So, even though religious practices are generally
>restricted to the occasional Vulcan ceremony or as a plot device with
>some other culture, one can assume that there is still religion in the
>23rd and 24th centuries.

>   In my opinion, space flight and exploration of the galaxy would more
>than likely renew interest in religion and the age-old "where do we
>really come from?" question.  Especially in the ST universe, where every
>other life form is humanoid (this is a bit too much to be taken as a
>random, evolutionary event).  Though some would like to deny it,
>religions of all sorts are alive and well in the 20th century.  I see
>no reason to assume that it will go away in the next 300 or 400 years.

>Paul Parkhurst

Also, in TOS the episode "Bread and Circuses" Uhura responds to either
Spock's or Jim's inquiry about the inhabitance being "Sun" worshippers,
by stating that they are worshippers of the "Son" not the "Sun".  The
trouble is not humans becoming athiests/agnostics/humanist in the 23rd/
24th century, but Hollywood writers going athiestic from theistic in
just 20 to 25 years.  IMHO


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From: jwindley%cheap.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley)
Subject: Re: I need help!!
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:27:30 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

kevin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Ernst Duckworth) writes:
>To anyone in their infinite wisdom:
>     Could anyone tell me the name of the piece being played on the
>piano in "The Masterpiece Society"?

F. Chopin, Prelude in b minor.

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From: kurgan@spock.uucp (Andrew Twyman)
Subject: Re: The planar universe
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:48:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.173555.12053@choate.edu> dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl) writes:
>In article <1jpfk8INNob5@shelley.u.washington.edu> labmas@stein.u.washington.edu (Lab Master) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan21.004425.27307@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mdvs_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mike Davis) writes:
>>>
>>>	Why is it that whenever two ships meet in space, they both have the 
>>>same orientation--in other words, both ships share the same direction "up"?
>>>	These ships launched from planets/bases that could not possibly all be
>>>oriented the same way.  Why bother?????
>>>
>>Here's my two bits... The galaxy is more or less in one plane.  When it
>>formed, perhaps (pure speculation) most star systems were formed in the
>>same plane (I know, our Pluto orbits "above" and "below" the plane of the
>>eccliptic), so when travelling from system to system, maybe up is in
>>reference to the galaxy... of course, within each star system, who's to
>>say what's up?  Galactic "North" to us may be Galactic "South" to someone
>>else... Oh, well, it was just a thought.
>
>Here's my $.02... Yes, it is true that the Galaxy was all formed in basically
>one plane. However, our solar system's plane is not the same as the galaxy's
>plane; instead it's tilted about 60 degrees or so. My theory is that,
>offscreen, where we don't see, they set up the ships to be roughly parallel,
>so as not to get the crews upset. It might be a little unnerving to see the
>other ship hanging out the window at a 42 degree angle to yours, eh? So they
>make them parallel, to limit the confusion. Any other theories?

I agree with Dan.  Ships are probably made to coincide for purposes of comfort.
Space is defined by a co-ordinate system, with an X, Y, and Z axis.  All
federation ships have probably agreed to keep the Y axis (or whichever) above
them.  This doesn't mean, however, that some alien ships couldn't be found
which use a different standard :-)
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From: wkb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wm.keith.brummett)
Subject: Susie Plakson - former roles?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:11:35 GMT
Keywords:  Susie Plakson roles


    I have been told that the actress who played Alexander's mother in TNG
    is named Susie Plakson.  She looks familiar.  Does anyone know if she's
    appeared elsewhere on TV or in films?  Thanks.

    -- Keith

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From: roberth@microsoft.com (Robert Hess)
Subject: Re: STAR TREK SHIPS [UPDATED:
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:29:45 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

>Probably the most canonical source to mention April is the ST:TNG
>Technical Manual.  He is, of course, a major character in Diane Carey's
>novel *Final Frontier*.

While not canonical, Robert April was also the originally intended name
for the captain of the Enterprise when Star Trek was being conceptualized.
I can't remember where this piece of trivia comes from, probably one of
the early ST "Making Of" books, but I remember reading about this before
the animated series came out, and noticing the usage of this character.

-Robert
From: zebee@wattle.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Grammar (was: TNG Companion)
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:33:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
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d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  26-Jan-1993 1344) writes:

>[relocated from rec.arts.startrek.current to rec.arts.startrek.misc]

>There's been an argument about the following sentence:

>"Like Tim and I, Nemecek started out doing fan produced guides."

>Several people have claimed that "Tim and I" is incorrect in this context and 
>that it should be "Like Tim and me".  Others have disputed this.

[Grammatical explanation deleted]

If you want a good way to test this kind of sentence for correctness,
then simply remove the extra person:

"Like [...] I, Nemecek started out doing fan produced guides".

It is then immediately obvious that the sentence is incorrect, and
should read "Like [...] me...."

This works for all variations (him/he, she/her etc etc)

And is heaps easier to understand than rules about objects and subjects
of sentences.

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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart question
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:04:22 GMT

In article <86609@ut-emx.uucp> rebecca@order.ph.utexas.edu (Rebecca McGowan) writes:
>Is Patrick Stewart married?  If so, to whom?  I heard a very unlikely  
>rumor
>which I will not repeat, but I would appreciate reliable info.
>
>Thanks, 
>	Rebecca


Oh, sure, just toss it out there and expect us to leave it.

Would that be the rumour that he has a male live-in lover, or
the rumour that he's secretly married to Majel Barret?



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From: d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  26-Jan-1993 1300)
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Subject: Re: DS9: Past Prologue - Garak (NO SPOILERS)
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:01:44 GMT
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kennyy@microsoft.com (Kenny Young) writes:

> well, we have our first ds9/la law crossover.  the guy who played garak
> played guy with multiple personalities...

kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai) responds:

> Also, there's a Dirty Harry/Deep Space Nine crossover, the Cardassian who 
> sells clothes (new suits!) is the same guy (Andy Robinson) who played the 
> killer psycho gunned down by Dirty Harry in the first D.H. movie.  

A third crossover with Andrew Robinson is to the revived Twilight Zone from 
several years ago.  In a wonderful episode titled "Profile in Silver", he 
played President Kennedy.

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From: drew@bnr.co.uk (Scooby Doo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST VI - Question?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:51:03 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
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In article <1jfqe0INNhi2@manuel.anu.edu.au> David.Berriman@anu.edu.au (Cyalodin) writes:
>I've read the FAQ list concerning problems and mistakes in ST VI,
>but here's a question that I haven't seen answered -
>
>   When the Enterprise is on the way to save Kirk, they pass a
>   Klingon outpost and have trouble responding to them in Klingonese.
>   The reason being that the Klingons would spot the use of a
>   universal translator.  Well ...
>
>   1) Why didn't they have the computer translate the incoming messages?
>
>   2) Why didn't they ask to the computer to supply the response along
>      which correct pronounciation (either on a screen, or verbally,
>      or both) and then have Uhura repeat this?
>
>Any thoughts !!
>
	according to the novelisation. The computer memory had been wiped
of all knowledge of the klingon dialect by the conspirators onboard
the ship. it wasn't that the klingons would detect the use of the translator,
but that the translator had no info!

Drew.


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From: wallace@cs.widener.edu (Dennis Wallace)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: RayShade or POV objects?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:42:05 -0500
Organization: Widener University CS Department, Chester PA
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People:
	Does anyone know of any FTP sites that have raytracing objects
for any of the Federation, Romulan, or Klingon ships? If there are,
could you e-mail me, and cross-post it here. I don't read news that
often, and other people might be interested.

	DW

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From: scottyb@Software.Mitel.COM (Scott Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Marina Sirtis
Keywords: Marina, movies
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:04:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1993Jan13.111256.8762@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>In article <1j06phINNemu@uwm.edu> simon@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David Joseph Simon) writes:
>>Ok, all, I know this is an old question, but the info I had on Marina Sirtis is gone from my files.
>>Could someone email me all info related to the movies that Marina Sirtis has done.  Also include all dirty movies that she has reportedly done.
>
>IMPOSSIBLE... since Marina has never done any "dirty movies".
>
>Sorry kids.


I believe she was in a movie called "Blind Date" but not the version with
Bruce Willis (sp?).  There used to be a ".GIF" floating around that was
purported to be the jacket cover for the movie and the resemblance to
Marina was unquestionable.  The text indicated "...staring Marina Sirtis".
I have no other information on the existance of the movie.

Never say "never" again.

scotty.



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From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart question
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:17:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan22.221753.29784
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <86609@ut-emx.uucp> rebecca@order.ph.utexas.edu (Rebecca McGowan) writes:
>Is Patrick Stewart married?  If so, to whom?  I heard a very unlikely rumor
>which I will not repeat, but I would appreciate reliable info.

Same as I said on the other group: he IS married and he's NOT gay.


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From: mfd@aber.ac.uk (Margaret Frances Disbury)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kobyashi Maru
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:05:25 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <PN1sXB1w165w@jab.tucson.az.us> uhs@jab.tucson.az.us (Rob Macomber) writes:
>thomk@microsoft.com (Thom Kozik) writes:
>
>> Perhaps in the book, the translation was meant to be "a ship named Maru",
>> but in the real world, at just about any Pacific harbor, you'll see 
>> several Japanese ships, all with the names "_________ Maru" (you choose
>> to fill in the blank with an appropriately unpronouncable Japanese word).
>> Maru does in fact mean something equivalent to "ship".   The author of
>> the Kobyashi Maru book just took some liberties.
>
>In the book, the translation was meant to be 'the ship named Kobayashi'. 
>If anyone's curious, its on page 23, near the top.
>
>                        Rob Macomber
>                         uhs@jab.tucson.az.us

 If anyone out there speaks Welsh, the Japanese word 'maru' sounds very like
 the Welsh word 'marw' which means 'to die'.  Appropriate to the cadets' 
 command test in a black kind of way.  (BTW, UK dialect usage of 'black' in 
 this context in UK = 'dour', 'gallows humour', 'grim')

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From: johnnyp@HALDI.LCS.MIT.EDU (Johnny Piscitello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: STVI and O'Brien and DS9
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:29:47 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

In article <1993Jan24.055536.26527@nevada.edu> takashi@nevada.edu (Edward T. Tonai) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.3244.6731@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>> -=> Psst...  Look what Edward T. Tonai said to All!  Oh my god!!! <=-
>>
>> ETT> Isn't that Colonel Wolf played by Rene Auberjonois?
>>
>>Uh, no, but Colonel Worf was played by somebody else you know.  Michael 
>>Dorn played Colonel Worf in STVI, and he also plays Worf in TNG.  The 
>>Worf in STVI is supposed to be TNG Worf's grandfather.
>>
>
>Are you SURE Colonel Wolf isn't played by Rene Auberjonois?  If so, just
>who IS the actor who plays Colonel Wolf?
>
	Yes, he's sure. Michael Dorn played Colonel Worf.

>And, uh, gee, but yes I do know that Worf in STVI is supposed to be the
>grandfather of the Worf in TNG.  Also I remember an interview of Michael
>Dorn who specifically said that the Worf of the movie was some sort of
>"kinder, gentler Klingon"

	Your point?

>But Worf doesn't exactly have a lot to do with my original question, now,
>does it???

	Well, only because you refuse to accept the answer to your question.
Worf and Colonel Worf are played by the same actor, Michael Dorn.

>
>I didn't notice the credit for Colonel Wolf at the end, but I wasn't wearing
>my glasses at the time...
>

	Well, you obviously couldn't see too well if you mistook Michael
Dorn for Rene Auberjonois!

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