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From: JDRUM00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
Subject: Re: Why the Orb burns anybody at all?
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:18:30 GMT

>1) I may be wrong but didn't it say that Garion's family could touch the orb.
>   Well, why does the restriction apply to only the members of the family that
>   are descentants of (what's his name, the guy that married Pol's sister)?
>   Maybe the orb doesn't care if you are a descendant or an ancestor.....
>   Remember, Pol and her father were of the line.
>
>   Of course, Pol wouldn't be in a direct line but close.
>
 
No, it's not 'Garion's family', per se, who can touch the Orb. It's the
line of RIVA (who's the guy who married Beldaran, Polgara's sister).
Polgara isn't related to Riva except by marriage; she is (or was) his
sister-in-law. This doesn't mean that Belgarath or Polgara are related by
blood to the line that can touch the Orb. Riva, just for reference, was
the son of Cherek Bear-Shoulders, King of the Alorns...no relation at all
to Belgarath or Polgara.
 
Thought I'd clear that up, just for chuckles.
 
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From: salvav@rs6420.ecs.rpi.edu (Vito Salvaggio)
Subject: Domes of Fire
Followup-To: No reply
Keywords: Dome 
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:46:50 GMT

I have not read the book yet however my roomate has it.
It looks really good.

The names of the next two books are in the front.
I don't remember them off hand.

The book should be available everywhere in the US.


The only big problem is that the cover is not that good.
Are one of the Knights on the cover supposed to be Sparhawk?
If so where's his black Pandion armor?

Any ways I can't wait for my roomate to finish it.


    
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From: millerbe@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Barry E. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: The Tamuli
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:35:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department


The 3 books of The Tamuli are:

"Domes Of Fire" (currently available in hardcover)

"The Shining Ones" *

"The Hidden City" *

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        * forthcoming


Barry
millerbe@bohr.physics.purdue.edu

"Far away, away fading distant lights..."
    -"Fading Lights" Genesis (Tony Banks)
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Size of the orb??
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:52:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <96801@netnews.upenn.edu> koczaja@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Donna L. Koczaja) writes:
>Hello, all this talk about placing the orb on the shield or the sword has 
>gotten me curious about something.  Just how BIG is the orb?  I seem to
>remember that there is a description of the orb somewhere, but as my books are
>in Pittsburgh, and I am in Philadelphia, I cannot look it up.  I have this
>'vision', if you will, that the orb is almost 'bowling ball' size.  However,
>that doesnt make much sense if the orb is placed on the sword.  (must be
>pretty strong to wield a sword with a bowling ball on it!!)  But also,
>for some reason, for me to picture the orb any smaller makes it seem less
>'grand', especially when the orb is just resting in the throne room where
>Garion keeps it.

I dunno... always figured the orb was 'bout the same size as a baseball...
if not smaller.  I mean, it DOES fit on the sword, it DID fit on the shield
(try THAT with a bowling ball!), and Errand USED to carry it around (and
wave it in everyones' faces) in his little pouch.  

Also, how "grand" can a chunk o' rock appear?  Granted, the glowing helped
create this "aura of grandieur" surrounding the thing, but I never pictured
it as the dominating feature of the throne room. Now the SWORD, maybe...

>Also, is the orb a perfect sphere, or is it just kinda like a regular-looking
>rock that glows occasionally?  I get the idea that it isnt spherical or even
>smooth.

I'd always pictured the orb as a perfect sphere -- after all, it was 
shaped by the gods...  But that's just me.


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From: reason@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason E. Reasoner)
Subject: Re: Is there a FAQ file for this group?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:45:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.145428.21577@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> minelson@nyx.cs.du.edu (mark nelson) writes:
>
>Repeating the header: is there a faq file?
>If so where is it?

  I was wondering the same thing.... pleas email me at the below listed address.

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From: reason@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason E. Reasoner)
Subject: Robert Jordan newsgroup??
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:09:33 GMT

    Well, since there has been so much interest in a Hickman/Weis newsgroup,
 (A GREAT IDEA!!) I thought I would nominate another great fantasy writer too.

While I'm at it I'll nominate Terry Brooks too...   I better quit before I 
think of anymore.

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From: jbcj+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey E. Byrne)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Size of the orb??
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:32:13 GMT
	<1992Nov10.224011.20233@hippo.ru.ac.za>
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



>About the Orb being smooth and spherical, who has their books handy to 
> read what Aldur did to it? The DelRey covers show it as a sphere, but 
> how many illustrators actually read the books they're illustrating?


-----

Has anyone ever noticed that they messed up drawing Belgarath on the
covers of all the books?  I just reread the series and the describe
Belgarath as have "close cropped beard and hair", but on the covers, he
has a long beard.  Morons...


							Jeff
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Subject: Re: Silk and the Prophecy
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:31:47 GMT
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Can someone post a list of all the names used in Mrin Codex?

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From: carney@rocky.rational.com (Mike Carney)
Subject: Re: Robert Jordan newsgroup??
Organization: Rational, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:08:32 GMT



In article <BxBn7y.Es0@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> reason@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason E. Reasoner) writes:
>       Well, since there has been so much interest in a Hickman/Weis newsgroup,
>    (A GREAT IDEA!!) I thought I would nominate another great fantasy writer too.

Here here!! I'd love a group devoted to Robert Jordan.

>   While I'm at it I'll nominate Terry Brooks too...   I better quit before I 
>   think of anymore.

Maybe not Terry Brooks though :-)

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From: dkf11@cl.cam.ac.uk (D.K. Fellows)
Subject: Re: Why the Orb burns anybody at all?
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 10:57:49 GMT

(My News-Reader keeps falling over, so I neglect to include the references).

I suspect that either Poledra moved the Orb (she was the Child of Light) or
that the orb moved itself by either direct action, or by dominating the mind
of someone as the Sardion did to get from Melcene to Korim.

Just my opinions.

Donal.
From: koczaja@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Donna L. Koczaja)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Size of the orb??
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:21:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hello, all this talk about placing the orb on the shield or the sword has 
gotten me curious about something.  Just how BIG is the orb?  I seem to
remember that there is a description of the orb somewhere, but as my books are
in Pittsburgh, and I am in Philadelphia, I cannot look it up.  I have this
'vision', if you will, that the orb is almost 'bowling ball' size.  However,
that doesnt make much sense if the orb is placed on the sword.  (must be
pretty strong to wield a sword with a bowling ball on it!!)  But also,
for some reason, for me to picture the orb any smaller makes it seem less
'grand', especially when the orb is just resting in the throne room where
Garion keeps it.

Also, is the orb a perfect sphere, or is it just kinda like a regular-looking
rock that glows occasionally?  I get the idea that it isnt spherical or even
smooth.

But I dunno, it has been a while since I have read the books.  Any insight
would be appreciated.

Donna  (:
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From: hansg@elixir.e.kth.se (Hans Gunnarsson)
Subject: Re: Is there a FAQ file for this group?
Reply-To: hansg@elixir.e.kth.se (Hans Gunnarsson)
Organization: School of EE, Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:49:06 GMT


Could you please send info about it to me too???
Thanks in advance...



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From: crmilton@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Robert MILTON)
Subject: Book Two of The Tamuli
Summary: Release date wanted
Keywords: Tamuli, Eddings
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:39:16 GMT

Anyone know when this will be released (worldwide and/or in Australia)?
Chris.

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From: bmargoli@dante.nmsu.edu (MARGOLIS)
Subject: Re: Size of the orb??
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:56:24 GMT

I seem to remember a passage that quoted the orb as being "the
size of a child's heart."  I haven't read the Belgariad in a while
though, so I'm not completely sure about this.  Does anyone else 
remember the passage?

Bernie
bmargoli@nmsu.edu
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From: minelson@nyx.cs.du.edu (mark nelson)
Subject: Is there a FAQ file for this group?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 14:54:28 GMT



Repeating the header: is there a faq file?
If so where is it?

Send email to amt5man@sun.leeds.ac.uk
From: mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Size of the orb??
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:41:12 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa


>  Just how BIG is the orb?  

> 'vision', if you will, that the orb is almost 'bowling ball


        Ummmm, consider that Errand kept it in a pouch at his waist (he was a
smalllllll boy) and could remove and hold it in one hand makes it sound small
to me.  I don't see him doing that with a bowling ball.  Of course that's just
my opinion.


        From the information I would estimate 2 to 4 inches across.  Maybe
more.  The way eddings describes the orb I admit that you get an idea at
different times about how large and how small it could be that conflict.

        Personnally, I think it was his description of the attributes of the
Orb and its glowing that made it appear larger than life.

        



> But also,
> for some reason, for me to picture the orb any smaller makes it seem less
> 'grand', especially when the orb is just resting in the throne room where
> Garion keeps it.

        The crown jewels aren't that "big" in england.  Plus, remember the
sword alone was too heavy for a man to lift.  It was the magic or help of the
orb that allowed them to lift the sword. (I believe)



                                                later....

                                                Diana
From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Why the Orb burns anybody at all?
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:33:11 GMT
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University


	I, myself, have often thought that Belgarath and Polgara are a little
over-pompous. Polgara in particular, although I love her as a character, I
think she'd be a pain in the ass as a fellow sorceress.
	Turning people into radishes is overrated. Trust me on this one.
	
				Rosaleen Dhu
"Beat the drum, hold the phone, the sun came up today..."--John Fogarty
From: solaris@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheree Lynn Kibby)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Book Two of The Tamuli
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:18:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: mingong-ws-1.ucsc.edu


fj@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Fiona Jamieson) writes:

>In article <9231100.2350@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> crmilton@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Robert MILTON) writes:

>   Anyone know when this will be released (worldwide and/or in Australia)?
>   Chris.

>Does anyone know what it's going to be called, or how many books there
>are going to be in the Tamuli ?

>Fiona


I have heard from previous postings that the Tamuli will be out in January
or February in the US, but I didn't get any clarification.  I also heard that
there was only supposed to be 3 books to it, but that to in not clarified. 
Anyone else heard the samething?

Sheree Kibby	
solaris@cats.UCSC.edu	
CIS/CE Department		
"Revolver of Worlds"

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From: barrera@cael6.me.mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Domes of Fire out in Michigan!!!
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:37:49 GMT
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The title says it all. :)) Just picked up my copy at B.Daltons

*very happy*

-chris barrera
barrera@mtu.edu


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From: hennebry@plains.NoDak.edu (Michael J. Hennebry)
Subject: Re: Why the Orb burns anybody at all?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:36:16 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


According to Belgarath et al, because Torak pissed it off.

Why some and not others? Because it's concious and more or less rational.
Any sensible action or inaction by the Orb can be explained by that fact.
Any burnings (were there any?) can be explained by the fact that the Orb
was pissed off for a few millenia.

BTW the Orb's reponse to Garion's presence made it fairly clear that it
hadn't been near a Rivan king in some time. Apparently none of the
non-ruling kings touched the Orb.

-- 
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From: dragon@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Korth)
Subject: Re: Domes of Fire out in Michigan!!!
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  8 Nov 92 02:04:00 GMT

In <1992Nov6.023749.17714@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> barrera@cael6.me.mtu.edu (Barrera) writes:
>The title says it all. :)) Just picked up my copy at B.Daltons
>*very happy*

Just great.  _Domes of Fire_ is out in my home state, and I'm in
Illinois.

I'm just glad that B. Dalton's is a national chain. :-)))
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From: JDRUM00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU
Subject: Re: Why the Orb burns anybody at all?
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:56:16 GMT

>        Of course also consider the fact that as long as Belgarath has been
>around, and as much playing around as he's allegidly(misspelled)(He was
>constantly being accused of it) done its possible that most Alorns including
>Riva could trace their ancestry back to him.
>
>                                                        Diana
 
Hee! Good point...it's a good thing it's the line of Riva, not the
line of Belgarath, or about half the West and a good portion of the
East could touch the Orb. ;)
 
=-=-> Jennifer Drummond
      a.k.a. jdrum00@ricevm1.rice.edu
      a.a.k.a. Jedra, PernMUSH
               Jenner, TooMUSH
From: reason@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason E. Reasoner)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Robert Jordan newsgroup??
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:46:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Nov11.080206.10090@ncsu.edu> jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE) writes:
>This is a good idea.  Robert Jordan is writing an excellent series (The Wheel
>of Time) and just came out with book 4, _The Shadow Rising_.  
Has anyone out there read _The Shadow Rising_ yet?  Can't wait to get my 
hands on it... esp. after the ending of _The Dragon Reborn_!!

Please e-mail any comments to the address given below...

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From: jhpace@eos.ncsu.edu (Jerrold H. Pace)
Subject: Re: Size of the orb??
Originator: jhpace@c00810-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jhpace@eos.ncsu.edu (Jerrold H. Pace)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:36:08 GMT


koczaja@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Donna L. Koczaja) writes:

>Hello, all this talk about placing the orb on the shield or the sword has 
>gotten me curious about something.  Just how BIG is the orb?  I seem to
>remember that there is a description of the orb somewhere, but as my books are
>in Pittsburgh, and I am in Philadelphia, I cannot look it up.  I have this
>'vision', if you will, that the orb is almost 'bowling ball' size.  However,
>that doesnt make much sense if the orb is placed on the sword.  (must be
>pretty strong to wield a sword with a bowling ball on it!!)  But also,
>for some reason, for me to picture the orb any smaller makes it seem less
>'grand', especially when the orb is just resting in the throne room where
>Garion keeps it.
>

As I recall, the Orb was described at one time as big as "a child's heart".  
This would be about four to five inches across, and I get the impression that
the Orb is slightly eliptical.  So Garion could place it flat on his palm, 
and have it reaching from the base of his hand to about the tip of his fingers,
with it not reaching either side of his palm.  So the Orb would be seen if 
held up, but not if it was in a pouch or pocket.  While on the sword, it 
would fit nicely as an extension of the handle, as the cover art suggests.
As for being "grand", I consider any gem that can glow with an inner light,
and make an audible crystaline sound, to be grand indeed....

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From: detchay@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (TONY CHAY)
Subject: Re: Why the Orb burns anybody at all?
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:37:41 GMT

	With reference as to how the orb got on the shield.
Maybe, you are all forgetting something.  Sure there's nothing illogical
about Belgarath saying "Move"*:-8).  But, Torak would have known that it 
could have been done and maybe would have expected it.  No, I think maybe
that since (as we all knew was the case) the line of Riva was not extinct
that Belgarath arranged for 1 of the line to move it?  This too can 
present problems for eg: wouldn't Torak know that the line was alive, cos
he awoke when Garion touched it. [Note: maybe not, maybe that was because
Garion was the chosen one.]  Problem 2.  Wouln't Brand have known that
something was going on, {maybe not, again, Belgarath could have just told
brand to let him into the throne room, not to disturb him.  And then whisked
one of the deceased line in.  Anyway there it is,,

			If you dont like it Fuck off..

					tony....
From: dkf11@cl.cam.ac.uk (Donal K. Fellows)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.eddings
Subject: Re: Domes of Fire
Keywords: Dome
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:24:05 GMT
Reply-To: dkf11@phx.cam.ac.uk (Donal K. Fellows)
Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK

In article <j9q1+tq@rpi.edu> salvav@rs6420.ecs.rpi.edu (Vito Salvaggio) writes:
>The only big problem is that the cover is not that good.
>Are one of the Knights on the cover supposed to be Sparhawk?
>If so where's his black Pandion armor?
>

I think the cover is of the section with the fight with the trolls in Atan.
Since I don't think the knights were trying to impress the trolls, I would 
think that the armour they were wearing would be mostly utilitarian.

I think that I prefer these covers (a bit) but everyone is entitled to their
own opinion. This is just my $0.02 worth.

Donal.
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