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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Playin and Playin
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:20:24 GMT


Sorry, Chris, the Dead beat ya to it! :-)
There was a 45 minute playin' in Seattle back in
'74 or so. I should say at least 45 minutes,
because I have it on one side of a 90 minute
tape and the dang thing cuts!

"if a man among you has no sin upon his hands..."

Bill
From: kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth malmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: what's the deal?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:48:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

Alright I AM new...but what's the deal with this Flamage stuff.  It sure
doesn't sound real nice.
From: lip@felina.Eng.Sun.COM (Philo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Any ideas?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:00:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: felina

In article <1doldmINNds1@ub.d.umn.edu> kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth malmberg) writes:
>Yesterday I got this tape in the mail and it is very obviously labeled
>incoreectly...10-8-66, Avalon Ballroom
>
>Dark Star>
>St. Stephen>
>The Eleven>
>Death Don't Have No Mercy
>The Other One>
>New Potato Caboose>
>Morning Dew>
>Sitting on Top of the World>
>Cold Rain and Snow
>
>The sound is very good, but I don't know where its from.  Sounds ligit...
>Ant ideas?

Yeah - It looks like another one of those wimpy shows from late 1968,
probably 10/13/68 at the Avalon.

-lip

:-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Alan Sodoma <ajs@jloda.cci.com>
Subject: Re: NET CENSORSHIP!
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:04:27 GMT


Yea, finally something funny on the net.  If I had a choice to put
with either the Diamondback crap or the Joseph Hack stuff, I'd take
the Hack any day!  The funniest part is that he's only supplied about
a third of the humor.        

Thanks go to Joe for finally getting rid of the Diamondback thread!!

Al Sodoma


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: cjs39035@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Shay )
Subject: Re: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:38:50 GMT

bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:

>        The Deadheads have floated off to another tour stop, with
>compliments bouncing off their earrings.  "Laid back," said David Fester.
>"Mellow," said another observer.  "Full of light and happiness," chimed
>in someone else.  Dirty, smelly, infectious disease carriers, say I.
>the real problems in this country today.

[Rest of old repost deleted]


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Personal to Joseph Hack
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:18:33 GMT


Sorry, but mail to Joe seems to be bouncing.

Joe,

I tried e-mail but I got a message that your account
does not exist. Must be some problems at your site.
As I was saying, the net has a lot of problems, and people
are far too quick to argue and complain, but I don't think
your approach is very productive. I mean, I could do that, too,
but it would only hurt people and not help the situation at
all. Most people on the net respond well to friendliness
and kindness. You have to have a base before people will 
listen to you talk about things in themselves they'd rather
avoid. As I said in a previous e-mail, we're all just
playin' in the band, so grab a drumstick and join in!

Can a virtual community get through anger and work towards
healing? I don't know.

Bill
From: patm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Pat Murphy)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:46:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: peace, togetherness, and U2
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead

In rec.music.gdead, William.A.Fekrat.1@nd.edu writes:

> |I recently saw the U2 show at Mile High Stadium and was greatly
> |disappointed by the sound.  The mix was terrible. Vocals could only
> |be heard on the quiet tunes. Now stadiums are notorious for bad sound
> |but I've seen many Mile High shows over the last 20 years and this had
> |the worst sound. 

	the only decent sounding stadium show i've seen was
	the dead at JFK in philly a couple years back.  this
	may have been the stadium's doing-- the city of phila
	condemned JFK as being structurally unsound just 3
	days after the dead stormed through... i think the old
	concrete and iron wanted to give us a going away
	party ;-)
> 
> I saw U2 at the World in Chicago and thought the sound was terrible -
> couldn't hear a thing through the whole show.  Funny thing is, the
> neighborhood near the theatre wanted a court injunction against the band
> claiming the band was too loud.  I've always heard stories about U2 and
> poor sound quality during concerts.  Sounds to me like they either need to
> find someone who knows what their doing or find a better sound system.

	i heard that more was put into the zoo tv effect than the sound
	this time around.  i saw u2 for the joshua tree tour (both
	times-- before & after the european tour) and the sound
	was one of the best i had heard up til then.
> 

peace all,
pjm.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: peace, togetherness and U2
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Organization: Chicago IL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:46:43 GMT

In article <1dma1qINNn6e@morrow.stanford.edu>, EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu
(Lara) wrote:
> 
> hey, great U2 show saturday!  if you haven't had a chance to see
> zoo/tv, it's an experience ...

absolutely. I was never really a U2 fan, but I like their latest turn.

> rhetorical question for the day:  did you ever notice that people
> don't dance nearly as much at non-dead events?  i swear that crowd
> didn't even start to MOVE until public enemy blasted them out of
> their seats, and then only a very small % started dancing.

You're right as far as you go. But you are leaving out an entire area
of music... industrial. I've always felt the the mosh pit at a Skinny
Puppy show has as much or more communal feeling as a Dead show. Moshing
(or whatever you want to call it) is very physical dancing, different
from a Dead show where some (not all) people are concerned that you don't
get in their way, stand on their blanket, step on their feet, etc. (and
for chrissakes don't scream ;-).  It's just a small jump from the mosh
pit to the complete surrender of self in experience, which is really
what it's all about in the end.

> 
> peace, sisters and brothers

that's right

__________________________________________________________________________
Jim Petersen         petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu          jp@darkstar.com

                If mercy's in business I wish it for you-        
             More than just ashes when your dreams come true.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: Re: Backstage Pass -- Mass Area availablity?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:56:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.154152.16328@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> belknap@nest.enet.dec.com (Chris Belknap  -- DEC Head) writes:
>
>Does anyone know of any stores in the Mass/NH area that sell the
>Backstage Pass video?  Please post or send mail.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Chris Belknap belknap@ics.dec.com
>-- or --      ...!decwrl!ics.dec.com!belknap
>-- or --      belknap%ics.enet.dec.com

Sorry, I'm not from your area but I did see several copies of this video at
Tower Records the other day.  They wanted $20 for it..... Noteworthy has it
listed at $14.95, so I'll wait till I place my Christmas CD order I guess.

Barb
From: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu (Victor A D'Amato)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Philly GDH question
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:00:21 GMT
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet

Anyone know which Dead hour will be aired on Nov. 24 in Philly?  217?
It's on at 11:00 Tuesdays, right?

Vic
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Re: WANTED: Oakland Coliseum Seat Layout
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:05:59 GMT


|In article <1992Nov11.203335.28594@leland.Stanford.EDU> >samuels@waldron.Stanford.EDU (Steve Samuels) writes:
|>
|>Howdy folks,
|>I was wondering if anyone had the Oakland Col. seat layout (like the
|>kind they have at BASStards).  Please email: samuels@psych.stanford.edu

to which MR. ACRONYM replies:

|Dead shows in Oakland are  GA (at least  they used to  be...)  ...

well, since some people might want to coordinate with their friends:


          13x

         STAGE          <-----north entrance [66th Avenue Exit]


118       SBD     104   <-----south entrance [Hegenberger Road Exit]

  213 113       108 208
   212 112     109 209
         111 110
         211 210
                                        
From: Trog.Martian@p4.f851.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Trog Martian)
Sender: NewsMeisterII@mcws.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Rocky Horror Picture Show
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 02:03:45 -0800

In a msg on <Nov 03 20:11>, ashton of 1:102/851 writes:


 a> Are there a lot of heads out there who are RHPS cultists?  
 a> I've seen Rocky 24 times.

Vell Halloooo dere!

It's Grate to meet another Rocky fan, especially who's also a DeadHead!

I've been playing Riff-Raff at The Nuart Theater in West Los Angeles, CA for
around 2 years now and was going regularly to the show about a year before
that.  Celebrated my 100th show some time back.

I would suspect that there are quite a few RockyDeadHeads :-) lurking in the
shadows here.

ODC:
       SPACE-->TIMEWARP

<Real Big Grin>

-Trog

 * Origin: TAG!  You're It! (1:102/851.4)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: RE: Rabid Deadheads
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:38:58 GMT


 bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:

|Maybe I should have titled that "Rabid Netheads".  How quick you guys
|are to lynch the nonconformist.  Quite strange, when Deadheads are
|usually considered nonconformists themselves.


since i first logged on 3 years ago, the last word i would have
used to describe rec.music.gdead was "nonconformist."  i have been
attacked since day one for having contrary opinions.  so you see, 
Mr. Hack, very little has indeed changed, except for being a 
Deadhead now days is to have become a member of the Establishment.
Pranksters have and continue to be considered too dangerous to
be allowed to exist in the public eye.	

people take this Deadhead thing and rec.music.gdead so seriously
that when a contrary opinion threatens their group hallucination,
they will use all weapons at their disposal to eliminate it.
when that fails they simply set up their own secret Mailing Lists
where they can censor your radical views from effecting their 
illusions.

be careful when you threaten someone's religion, they will either
burn you at the stake or crucify you.  and unfortunately, religion
is just what being a Deadhead has become.

Steve-TOO

"what is the secret to this tie that binds, two souls in communion
 both body and mind..."

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: dudasj@sage4b.its.rpi.edu (Joel Schostok Dudas)
Subject: great band at Poppy's in Albany
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:14:30 GMT

There is a hot band, HGG&454765,  playing at a bar in Menands,
New York by the name of Poppy's on Thursday night.
Ckeck it out.

Later
From: ANDREA@wsuvm1.bitnet (Idaho Andee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:18:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov6.221857.29847
Reply-To: ANDREA@wsuvm1.bitnet
Organization: The Internet


AH.....now I get it....Joseph Hack is Dale reincarnated.  I can just see
the volume of hate mail swell.




ODC: Ain't to time to hate.
From: gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Should the Dead cancel Denver shows?
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:07:44 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <0Ng2TB2w165w@quake.sylmar.ca.us> loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection) writes:
>In light of the repeal of Ammendment 2 in Colorado, there are calls
>for a boycott...while undoubtedly there is a pent demand for these
>shows, maybe the boys ought to send a clear message to the people
>of Colorado that they are in solidarity with our gay friends who
>are being denied their civil rights in this state.
>
>With these upcoming shows, what kind of message can be sent?
>
>What do you all think?
>
Well, if they are going to boycott CO then they should also boycott Arizona
since they don't observe Martin Luther King Jr. day and then there's
Louisiana, a state known for it's persecution of pregnant women, and let's
not forget Utah, also lacking in the women's rights arena, Michigan, where you
get beaten to death by cops in traffic stops, which means they have to stop 
playing in CA because of Rodney King.  Maybe they should just retire now and 
get it over with.

But seriously, should someone get minority status because of behavior?  If so,
then all the neo-nazis can argue for protection, because that's behavior.  ANY
group could argue for minority status because of behavior.

I have read the amendment (since I voted here in CO) and it would have done
more damage than good.  Don't believe everything the press tells you, they are
trying to sell products so they only tell you what they think will attract your
attention.

Ammendment 14 of the U.S. constitution already protects people and we don't needmore laws, which directly leads to more lawyers.

It's not a perfect world.  We need to stay in touch with areas that are lacking
in their human rights so we can change things.  Boycotts on the scale of less
than 1% of the population are nothing less than cop-outs.  It would make no
difference at the state government level if the Dead boycotted CO.  In fact,
the govt might actually like the fact that the Dead wouldn't come back to CO.

Just my opinion, and I have homosexual friends who agree.  They are informed.
From: kmalmber@ub.d.umn.edu (kenneth malmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Satistics - FYI
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:44:09 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

Yeah Yeah Yeah...I know I skipped some of the details
From: max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Are you bummed that there is no NYE show?
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:09:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: frabjous.MAX.92Nov9110918
Organization: /home/max/.organization



In article <2618@cronos.metaphor.com> pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens) writes:

   I'm curious how most r.m.gdead readers feel about ringing in 1993
   without the familiar backdrop of a Dead show...

	(rest deleted)

I just wish I was back on the east coast so I could see Phish instead!!

:-)

Max
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Jorma/Hot Tuna
Date: 12 Nov 1992 04:12:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Jim Smith writes:
>I'm a recnet subscriber to Dead-Flames and ...

What's recnet?? and where do i subscribe?? :-) Heh, welcome, seems to be
my self-appointed duty today, welcoming people, couldn't resist the pun
though.
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: GDH in DC!
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Distribution: md
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:01:12 GMT

As I understand it, DC 101 has left us high and dry without GDH anymore.
If our pleas don't give us results, we might consider bombarding 105.9

They have a new format, just call in and make recommendations.

# 703-683-1059 #   They actually do play a fair bit of GD these days, so
they may be in the mood for a new show.  How 'bout it?  

Just a suggestion....any other ideas greatly appreciated!

Barb
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Re: Garcia One From the Vault?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:52:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.193723.1615@reed.edu> bowman@reed.edu (BoBoRamDos) writes:
>A local record store employee told a friend of mine a new vault release of
>Legion of Mary (Garcia, Saunders, Fiero, others?) may be coming out soon.
>He made it sound like it was already happening....
>
>Can anyone confirm this?  Mr. Gans?

I have no information on this, but I find it extremely unlikely.


-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: akr@sei.cmu.edu (Astrid Rapp)
Subject: Re: PITTSBURGH AREA
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:40:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.183730.21357@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, jpf8360@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (grateful phred) writes:
> 
> in response to the boyz playin' at star lake again.  sorry but its just not
> gonna happen. :-( 
> (explanation of events deleted)
>                    just my .02 cents.
>                                                8^}   phred
> 

Actually, I think this remains to be seen; though alot happened the first
night of Starlake ie. jumping the fence, injuries, damages, etc.  It was very
calm the second night. Starlake was definately unprepared for the scene and
the ticketless.  However, they had to remodel from the damages and supposedly
the remodeling beefed up security for the park...Starlake made an awful lot of
money from those shows much more than most of the shows they host.  They know
what to expect now, so maybe, if the Boyz are willing to return, we'll see
them back at little Dark Star Lake once again.
				
				My $.02		- Astrid

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: hbpeltz@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Harry Peltz)
Subject: A Top Ten List That Won't Make It On Letterman (maybe)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 09:39:57 EST



I am a Broadcast Journalism major, and on a spur of procrastination
one night I came up with this:


Top Ten Reasons Why Press Conferences Are Like Dead Shows

10. Everybody knows one another.
9. Everyone reviews notes of previous occasions.
8. Reserved seating.
7. People try to feel they are special to the performer.
6. Both have taping sections, and EVERYBODY wants a copy.
5. Both have people who follow the performer around wherever they 
go.
4. Both keep indexes on what happened.
3. People try to review the event like they know what they are 
talking about.
2. People compare the event to previous ones like it.
	and the number one reason why Press Conferences are like 
Dead Shows.....
1. In both, attendees hope for things to happen that never do.

finally, the main (if only) distinction between Press Conferences and 
Dead Shows...

For Press Conferences, people are paid to attend and summerize.
For Dead Shows, people pay to attend and socialize.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: eps!uunet (Steven Kornreich)
Subject: Need Tapes (Completet collection lost!!)
Reply-To: steve@eps.com
Organization: EPS
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 01:29:19 GMT

I've been a deadhead for over 14 years and easily have seen them over 100  
times.. My first show was in 78' at UC Santa Barbara.. I moved to Hawaii two  
years ago and some of my shipped good were lost comming over including my  
complete collection of tapes.
What is the best way of going out and rebuilding my collection?
I'm only interested in HI!!!! quality tapes, DAT, CD bootlegs, preferable from  
1974, Winterland Shows, 1978 UCSB, and assorted early 1980 tapes.. 
Help!!!!!

Please email to:
steve@eps.com


thanks
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: looking for chords
Keywords: franklin's
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:23:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.185931.18170@sunspot.noao.edu> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.140539.24476@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dab@donner.uucp (25853-ballard) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>does anyone have the chords for franklin's laying around?
>
>Gee, never heard "Franklin's Laying Around" is that one of the new
>tunes:-) :-) :-)

In another time's forgotten space, I lay with you, goin' round and round.

One more time...

who's got the tapes?

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: First Million Seller
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:41:51 GMT


"where it began
 i can't begin to know
 but then i know it's  growin  strong
 was in the spring 
 and spring became the summer
 who'd believe you'd come along
 hands touching hands 
 reaching out 
 touching me
 touching you
Sweet Caroline
 good times never seemed so good
 I'd be inclined 
 to believe they never would..."
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Europe 90-Miles,Van,Hornsby
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:14:21 EST
Organization: Penn State University

The recent thread about the early 70s Miles Davis Fillmore runs reminded me
of a tape I aquirred on the fall 90 Europe tour .I stayed with a guy in
France nammed Jean-Pierre(?)-he didnt speak english-and I dont speak French-
so it made for a few strange evenings- He had a D6 and some excellent shows.
One of the Masters I copied was Miles Davis 11-8-89 at I belive the
Zenith--really excellent show--Miles plays alot- and he's not afraid to
showcase his guitarist.  I wouldnt mind trading if anyone has any good Miles
Audience tapes.  I feel these are getting rarer by the minute.  I also
copied a killer Van Morrison show 2-90 at the Olympia--I would really like
to find a way of contacting this Euro-taper and maybe do some updating.
   Also, did anyone else tape or see a tape of Bruce and the Range from
 Amsterdam-It took place the day after the first Dead show of that tour--The ve
nue was some kind of wild church--Its a smoking show (really more entertaining
than any of the Dead shows that tour) It opens with Western Skyline>NFA.
He did a bunch of Dead tunes. My master sounds eksellent-but I would really lik
e to get hold of a good DAT of this memorable show. thanxEDB>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jimmy Lichtman <jimmy@evergreen.com>
Subject: Neil Diamond Tour
Reply-To: jimmy@evergreen.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:38:58 GMT

I've been reading something about Neil Diamond and the
Diamondbacks.  I recently spent time on tour with
Mr. Diamond. I wrote an itenerary database program for them
in FileMaker Pro for Mac.

I hear the dead also use powerbooks. I'd like to design
some tourware for them as well. How are there itinerary
books?  Do they use computer consultants?

This is all true!  Who ever thought I'd be on tour with
Neil Diamond?!!  ;-)

-jimmy :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: dead-ringers-c'mon!
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:23:33 EST
Organization: Penn State University

  The DEAD RINGERS tour recently came through our town, (In fact my band 'Crazy
 Daze' opened for them)  I felt as if this tour should have been called "DEAD S
UCKERS 10$" It was definately more interesting to talk to Tom C. than to hear h
im play. Ive seen him a few times and he always plays the same stuff the same w
ay.  The acuostic part of the show was a new hight in dead banality. Barry F br
oke a string on nearly evey song.  They just seemed plain embarssed to be doing
 this type of tribute/bandwagon show. Barry couldnt even bring himself to say "
dead" as part of "Workingmans Dead"  The renditions of Dead tunes were uninspir
ed and undynamic. There just doesnt seem to be any real interplay between the m
usicians.  The highlights were David Nelsons mandolin playing on some of the no
n-dead numbers.  I left during the transition to the electric set, But I listen
ed to the tapes later and as I said ,BANAL is the word. Save your money and you
r fall tour blues and see Phish instead.