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Subject: Nittany Lions update
From: mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley)
Date: 13 Aug 92 05:43:22 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

I would first like to say thanks to all the people who sent me E-mail
to my first Happy Valley post. 

Second if any Penn State fans have any questions about this years team, I can 
probably give you answers to most of them and whatever I can't answer, I can
find out. 

Today is the day for Joe Pa's pre season conference. I'll give a summary
tomorrow on the net. 

Somebody asked me a question in regards to Rich McKenzie playing this fall or
not. This question will probably be answered tomorrow, but I can tell you this,
He took 12 credits this summer and  was doing well. There was rumor that he 
would be red-shirted because of academics. It was reported by Phil Grosz in 
Blue White Illustrated that he has always been academically eligible and if he 
is eligible it would be hard for Joe to tell him he couldn't play.

The Lion's this year are deep in the backfield.

Fullbacks   Brian Milne, J.T. Morris and Brian O'Neal
Tailbacks   Richie Anderson, Mike Archie, Ki-Jana Carter

Milne however, may move to linebacker if McKenzie does red-shirt. He is listed
at 6'3'' and runs a 4.55 40. 

Todd Adkins a red-shirt freshman was the big suprise this year in the
Blue-White game. He had a game high 8 tackles in the game and was rated the best
pass rusher during the spring. He looked good and he still has four years..

Gotta love it. - 

Go LIONS!!!

More after today's press conference.


                                                              Mike Kelley
                                                              HRB Systems
                                                              St. College, Pa.

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From: baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:14:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.130438.21364@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.143529.27749@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>>tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>>
>>
>>>What about the bowl game.  If washington and A&M go thru a soft schedule
>>>undefeated, but then play a team with a 'tough' schedule like Miami/FSU?/...
>>>and beat them, I think they have proven themselves.  Who did BYU play the
>>>year they won the MNC in the bowl game?  Did they have a chance to prove
>>>themselves there?
>>
>>That one is a pretty sore subject with UW fans.  BYU beat a pretty weak
>>Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl that year (84?).  BYU won the MNC
>>simply because they were undefeated--no attention was given to their
>>relatively weak schedule.  Washington thumped Oklahoma (who was no. 1 or
>>2 at the time) in the Orange bowl and finished no. 2.
>
>What was UWash's record that year and who did they lose to?
>

UW's record was 11-1 that year and they lost to (I hate to say it) USC by
a touchdown or less I think.  I think that it was something like 4 points.

>-- 
>*************************************************************************
>GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!      | "That haircut of yours might be city-style,
>GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!      |  but your heart is shaped like a bowl."
>James Clyde     LSU '91   |             -- Briscoe Darlin, T.A.G.S.


With regards,
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From: paul@maunakea.Data-IO.COM (Paul Brownlow)
Subject: Re: Miami vs. Washington
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:29:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.091238.4761@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito) writes:
|> subject line says it all.  the two teams have agreed to a home and home
|> series to start in 1994 in miami.

Which teams get axed from Washington's current schedule?

1994			1995
Ohio State		@ Ohio State
BYU			Army
@ Wisconsin		Notre Dame

Will Wisconsin and Army be replaced?

-- 
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Respect for NC State
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:59:22 GMT

Martin Pochmara writes:

>Didn't Florida State (They always start off slow) lose to some small
>school in their first game of the season some five years ago?

A few short years ago, Florida State opened their season with losses to 
Southern Mississippi and Clemson.  While they may be small scholls (I honestly
have no idea), they are both div. I-A.  AND, Jimmy Buffett is an alumnus of 
Southern Miss. so you know the Eagles are cool! :-)

     - Pat
.
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- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ------------------------------------------
From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Respect for NC State
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:58:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug19.205835.11586
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black) writes:

>Apparently you do not keep up with Division 2 of the NCAA. Marshall was
>in last year's football final four for the Div. 2 and I think that they
>ended up losing in the finals as well. They are obviously no patsy, much
>like Dick Sheridan's teams at Furman in the early 80's. I would put the
>Top 5 in Div. 2 aginst a lot of teams in the Top 25 any day of the week.

Apparently, you don't keep up with Division II football either.  The
Thudering Herd of Marshall is a fine football team, but they compete
in Division I-AA, not division II. 

>However, my point to this post was merely to say that just because Duke
>and Marshall are not exactly Fla St. and Miami does not make my point
>about our QB's any less valid. Maybe we shouldn't have been down in those
>games but we were. Under much pressure, those QB's led us to victory.

The real point is that you can only play one QB at a time.  Sure it's nice
to have good backups, but you only need one on the field.  I'd a whole lot
rather have one good QB and a good offensive line than 3 good QB's and a
sh*tty offensive line.  Under the latter case, you often find that you need
4-5 QB's to make it through the season.  Ask anyone who follows the 
University of Oregon.

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Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Truth is a statue, and you are all just 
University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win it all??
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:18:08 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

clarko@rossini.berkeley.edu (Clark Olson) wrote:
}In article <1992Aug12.135803.19668@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
}>
}>Yes.  The 7-0 win by ND ended the longest winning (and unbeaten) streak in NCAA
}                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
}>football history.
}>
}
}It is my understanding from a few references that Washington teams from
}the '20s or '30s hold the record for longest unbeaten streak.  What gives?

That's correct - the longest *unbeaten streak* in NCAA history was by
Washington from 1907-1917, 59-0-4.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
        "... and we tell ourselves that what we found 
                   was what we meant to find."
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Gramm
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:28:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/JSC

In article <1992Aug20.143208.22508@tamsun.tamu.edu> garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary
Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>In article <Bt97zD.ELD@rice.edu> rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
writes:
>>I couldn't resist posting the following, even though it has NOTHING to
>>do with college football:
>>
>>Quoted from a UPI news article on Senator Phil Gramm:
>>
>>"	Gramm, who revealed that he failed the third, seventh and ninth
>>grades before his mother spurred him on to a doctorate's degree in
>>economics at Texas A&M University ... "
>>
>>Looks like Mr. Gramm got a lot of opportunities from A&M :)
>
>Well, I was waiting to see if anyone else corrected this, but it doesn't 
>look like anyone will, so I will...
>
>Gramm did indeed reveal that he failed the third, seventh and ninth grade.
>He might have even flunked some of his college classes, but you would have
>to look at his University [sic] of Georgia transcripts to find out.  After
>graduating there with both undergrad and grad degrees, he worked at A&M for 
>15 or so years as an economics professor.  Then he went into politics.

Bottom line is that he isn't an Aggie. (thank goodness!)
>
>- goober (gramm sorta looks like a goober poster child) smith
>
From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Subject: Beavers will win MNC  fer sure!
Summary: Oregon State will win the National Championship
Keywords: Oregon State, Champion, MNC, fair weather crap
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:06:22 GMT


THE OREGON STATE BEAVERS WILL WIN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!

The Oregon State Beavers are headed back to glory days.  I'm not just
talking about a victory or two here and there, but a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Laugh if you must, but remember 1964!  Yes, we only one one game last year,
but that was against the hated Ducks!  We can win; we must win.  Anybody who
thinks otherwise just isn't a fan! And I know fans!  I am the authority on
fans!  I don't care whether you also like Oregon State, if you don't agree
100 percent with my enthusiasm for the players and coaches, if you don't
have a dam outside your house, if you don't believe we are going to win the
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, you are not a fan!

Esera Tualu has gone on to the NFL, but the mighty beavers will prevail --
with the defense of our mighty linebacker, Menopause Smith!  (His name means
"The End.")

We have five goals:
1) attend classes occasionally
2) try to draw a penalty on the opponents
3) beat  Oregon
4) Go to the Rose Bowl
5)  Win the National Championship

Come on, you Mighty Mud-bound Mammals!
Yvonne

<smirk>
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: Whether to laugh or cry
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:48:00 GMT

In article <19920812164234ASDXPSC@MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU> ASDXPSC <ASDXPSC@MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU> writes:
>
>       Hello to the Bandwidth,
>
>           I really don't know whether to laugh or cry.
>       My fellow Alumnus is either composing "tongue in cheek"
>       or seriously uninformed.  My experience at Oklahoma State
>       is completely contrary to hers.  [etc. about Dexter Manley U]

As a proud graduate of the OSU graduate school, I must admit that I was 
really sweating that final exam.  Until I found out it was an oral exam 
and not written, that is.  Also, it's a good thing that I married my wife
while still at Stillwater or I might not have been accepted into A&M.  Being 
a Kentucky Wildcat, she is extremely qualified in filling out forms and 
taking tests in order to get others enrolled...ask Eddie, I hear that he 
and Sean might know something about that type of activity.

- goober (corn, wheat, rice, oats) smith

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Purdue and Wisconsin insulters, watch out...
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:46:24 CDT

I'm tired of seeing my teams called patsies on this group (even though they
are).  Therefore, any "we'll kick their ass" statements, or the like, will
be saved.  I then will bring these comments back to tease you with in the
unlikely event of a major upset (or in some cases, not even an upset - Mr.
Minnesota).  I suggest you all do your woofing very carefully, because I am
watching.............
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
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Subject: Re: Big 8 poll
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:42:34 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Aug13.081131.4070@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
>>Media poll found in the TopekaJournal
>>
>>team	1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8		total
>>====	======================		pts
>>CU	34-31-21-04-01-00-00-00		639
>		    ^^
>
>I wonder who picked CU to finish 5th in Big 8!
>
I have no idea.  But also notice that OU is missing 2 votes and
OSU is missing 30 [since the rest of the teams have 91 votes].
And notice that KU got 1 8th place vote(no 7thplace) and MU
and ISU got 4th place votes.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win it all??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:58:03 GMT

Michael Noonan writes:

>Didn't that loss to ND end the longest winning streak (ever? up to that
>time?) in NCAA football history?

Yes.  The 7-0 win by ND ended the longest winning (and unbeaten) streak in NCAA
football history.

>What's the word on Notre Dame's stadium?  I had heard that an upper
>deck was going to be added, but I haven't heard anything further.

Notre Dame, in their infinite wisdom, has decided to hold off on any plans for 
building a new stadium or adding on the the current one until a probe into 
prioritizing University resources is completed next year.  Seems they want to 
be sure they are not funneling all their money earmarked for accademics into 
stadium renovations.

     - Pat
.
-- 
- Patrick E. Fleming ----------------------------------------------------------
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- The Ohio State University ---------- But baby I'm the next best thing! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Who do you think will win it all??
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:38:50 GMT

In article <BsvtIM.AEC@acsu.buffalo.edu> v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.134418.12239@spdc.ti.com>, dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) writes...
>[re:  winning streaks]
>#It's hard to imagine any team doing that now.  No, I don't think even the
>#mighty canez could pull that off nowadays. 
>
>I don't think you are being fair to Miami, Notre Dame, Florida State, or 
>a couple other extremely successful programs in the late '80s.
>
>Miami had a 16 game winning streak between Sept. 87 and Oct. 88.  Another
>13 game winning streak after the one-point, questionable call loss to Notre
>Dame that broke the first streak.  And is now working on an 18 game streak.
>Say that the call in the Notre Dame loss in '88 had gone the other way
>(perfectly reasonable, IMHO):  Miami would then have had a 30 game streak.
>Take away the close loss to Penn State in the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 2, '87, and
>Miami would have been working on a 41 game streak:  certainly in line with
>the 47 game Oklahoma streak.
>
>Notre Dame had a 23 game winning streak from Aug. '88 to Nov. '89 which is
>one of the longest winning streaks in history.  Florida State was 23-2 from
>Dec. '86 to Jan. '89 with the two losses to Miami, one by a single point
>after Miami came back from a 19-3 deficit in the fourth quarter.
>
>While I think the Oklahoma streak is impressive and is certainly a difficult
>thing to surpass, I don't think it is inconceivable that one of these three
>teams could have come close to duplicating it with a bit more luck on their
                  ^^^^^^^^^^
Coming close isn't doing it.  And they *haven't* come close, as you say.
They haven't even come within two *seasons* of doing it.  Sure, if the close
games had gone the other way... But, by that reasoning, the OU streak could
have been over 60 victories.  I just think there are too many good teams out
there these days.

It won't happen.  Only by actually doing it can my opinion be changed.
Miami is the only team that could even dream of doing it right now.  And
that is just a dream.

>side.
>Timothy C. Pitts             


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From: daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami vs. Washington
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:06:34 GMT



In article <1992Aug19.091238.4761@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, rcsaito@cs.washington.edu (Richard Saito) writes:
> subject line says it all.  the two teams have agreed to a home and home
> series to start in 1994 in miami.
> 
> -Richard


Well, sort of.  Washington has dropped Wisconsin from its 1994 schedule
to travel to Miami.  Miami will play in Seattle in 1998.  It would be
nice if they'd fill in those middle years, don't you think?

BTW, this completes the schedule from hell for the Huskies in 1994:
(1st Five weeks)
      at USC
      Ohio St.
      BYU
      at Miami
      UCLA


Ouch.  Well, it'll be interesting.

-Steve
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Net Trash on Bama & Miss. St.
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:32:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Organization: Murasami Labs

Jason Fawcett wrote:

> zcjm0f@wwnv42.uucp (CJohn Mace) writes:

> >You know, the last time I checked, a gun could kill someone, and a 
> >credit card couldn't...  *smirk*
> 
> The gun was unloaded.   Students in the state of Florida do take guns to  
> school.  It's called self-defense.

That may be so, but perhaps they should consult their student handbook?
What does UMiami's say about possession of a firearm on campus? Even at
TAMU, such posession is PROHIBITED. And for the state schools in Florida,
it would appear the same.

James

From FSU's student handbook, 91-92 [emphasis mine]:

Student Conduct Code 6C2-3.004, Florida Administrative Code

(9) Offenses.

(a) Any student who commits an offense, whether on or OFF campus,
    shall be subject to disciplinary proceedings pursuant to this
    rule.

(g) Offenses Related to Welfare, Health or Safety.

    An offense related to welfare, health or safety is committed
    when a student:

2. Uses, POSSESSES, or manufacutres, without AUTHORIZATION, firearms,
	  explosives, weapons, unregistered fireworks or other dangerous
   articles or subtances injurious to persons or properties;
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Why Not Cal in Top 20 (was: Re: CNN/USA Today Preseason Top 25)
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:43:22 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro) writes:
>  I can't believe that California is not even in the pre-season top20
>after finishing in the top 10 after the bowls were played (beating the
>shit out of Clemson) AND has a returning player who's a serious Heisman
>trophy candidate.  But I can't say I'm all that surprised either.

Last year marked Cal's first appearance in the top 20 since the
mid-70's.  The Bears are fortunate to be in the top 25 at all,
considering that many think of them as a "flash in the pan."
They need to prove they belong there by having another winning season.


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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schedule determines #1
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:31:19 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Aug13.194655.28125@javelin.sim.es.com> dpettit@javelin.sim.es.com (Daina Pettit) writes:
>>>  (... stuff long gone ...)
>>
>>How is the '85 season relevent to '84?  Using Diana's logic, one could say
>>Washington was the best team in '84 because Washington destroyed BYU in
>> (... more stuff gone ...)    Your argument, Diana, shows your lack
>>of wisdom.    
>>
>>-Brian  


>Brain makes a good, *relevant* point.  How is '84 relevant to '85?   How is
 ^^^^^
>'91 relevant to '92?  Using Brain's logic, one could say that Washington
                             ^^^^^ 
>has as good a chance as anyone to win the MNC this year.  
>
>Brain, that's too bad you took to personally attack me.

Yeah, I've been disowned by my Brain a time or two myself.


>Brain, you are from Washington, aren't you?

I can't help you here, Daina.

>
>Daina
>-- 
>  Daina Pettit  (801) 582-5847  dpettit@javelin.sim.es.com   
>  Evans & Sutherland  600 Komas Drive, SLC, UT  84108


You know Daina (I presume you really meant to say Diana) its OK to talk to
yourself, but why waste bandwidth in the process.

Nothing to be ashamed of, though.  I often find myself (especially early in 
the day) saying to myself:

	"Brain, pour cereal."
	"Brain, pour milk."
	"Brain, pick up spoon."
	"Brain, aim at mouth."
	(Ooops!) "Brain, OPEN mouth first."

And so on . . . .


P.S.  ;^)


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: Whether to laugh or cry
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:16:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.131021.11690@news.cs.indiana.edu> Sid Kitchel <kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>ASDXPSC@MVS.UCC.OKSTATE.EDU (ASDXPSC) writes:
>|>       Hello to the Bandwidth,
...
>|>                                   Preston Carrier
>|>                                   BITNET:
>|>                                   ASDXPSC@OSUCC.BITNET
>
>	CLASSIFICATION REQUEST:
>
>		El Goob, could you tell us if this guy qualifies more
>as a goober or a poke-style aggie?
>
>						Thanks,
>						   --Sid

Heck, I'm living proof that he can be both.  And a Texas Aggie ta boot.

- goober (it just doesn't get any better than that) smith