From: chrism@cirrus.com (Chris Metcalfe)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: zionism in crisis / Ethiopian Aliyah
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:44:04 GMT
Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc.

In article <74244@cup.portal.com> L-Bueno@cup.portal.com (Louis Alberto Bueno) writes:

>	From what I have read of Ethiopian Jews in Israel, only a small
>number have been allowed to immigrate into Israel, while Russian Jews have
>been able to rain down aplenty.  I do understand that both groups have had
>great difficulty finding meaningful jobs and proper housing, but I've also
>understand that the Ethiopian Jews have been sequestered in the remote
>lands of Israel.  Care to comment?

Just another disinformation post by an *emotional* anti-Israelist.  Just how 
do Russian Jews "rain down aplenty?"  That's simply an emotional appeal by a 
smart-ass.  Anyway, 100% of the Beta Israel community has been airlifted to 
Israel in Operation Moses and Operation Solomon.  What is your point?  That
Israel didn't let in Blacks, but did let in Russians?  Sniff... sniff...
I just know that that racist Judaism is around here somewhere...

You need to do some more reading; any source at all would have helped you
get a correct understanding of these recent current events.

Many of the Beta Israel have been located in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, as well
as in Beer Sheva and towns in the Galil.  I spent an interesting afternoon
last April walking through the Georgian and Beta Israel neighborhoods of
Beer Sheva.

>	I don't know what Wayne wants from what you define as "us," other
>than what he's asked for (rational examination of Israel's ideological
>presuppositions), but I know what I want; a non-emotional explanation of
>the ongoing brutalization of a non-Jewish people by a people who themselves
>were once brutalized.  Atrocities by any other name are still atrocities.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Louis

Ah yes, let's pick up the history of this conflict where it suits you.  Arab
atrocities against Jews from the Classical Age, through the Medieval Age (as I
have posted previously), into the Modern Age, the Inter-War period, and the 
current period, are well documented.  That's Arab persecution of Jews in the
100's, the 400's, the 600's, the 700's, the 800's, the 900's, 1000's, the 1100's, 
the 1200's, the 1300's, the 1400's, the 1500's, the 1600's, the 1700's, 
the 1800's, and 1900's throughout the Middle East.

Yes, Jews were *also* persecuted in Europe.  So where were we supposed to go?
We went home.

You cannot characterize the current condition of Palestinian Arabs in the disputed
territories as "the ongoing brutalization of a non-Jewish people by a people 
who themselves were once brutalized".  This "we didn't do the Holocaust"
argument doesn't fly, because it ignores the history of Arab violance against
Jews outside of and within the context of WWII, and it ignores the context of 
the perpetuation of the conflict by Arab confrontation states who sponsor
terrorism against Israel and against each other.

Israeli's have no interest in supressing the Arab population as part of a racial
scheme characterized by the need to be rid of them.  As a matter of national
security, Israel will prevent terrorism against Israeli citizens in all its forms.

Israel, as a party to the Peace Negotiations, recognizes that the final status
of the disputed territories has not yet been determined.  The representatives of 
Syria to the Peace Negotiations have a good understanding of this.  They know 
what the score is, and they negotiate appropriatly.  I have more trust in them 
than in the idiotic propaganda-swallowed-as-truth attitudes flying around in this 
net forum.

-- Chris Metcalfe