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From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Allstar Teams
Date: 11 Dec 92 01:29:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


|> Dan Majerle is way off an all-star pace as well.  Drexler is also struggling.
|> I'd say Buck Williams and Drexler are having bad starts for sure, which
|> is pretty amazing to think that Portland is still rolling.  Kudos go to
|> Cliff Robinson and the rest of the Blazers for overcoming this.
|> 
|> Also, the original poster had Isiah Thomas listed for starting east pg.
|> Word.  But damn! There are some sorry point guards in the east.
|> I'd say Adams and Bogues are at the front of this sorry pack.  Oops,
|> Mr. Price is the man I almost forgot.  Starter easily.  Thomas? HAH!
Come on, I am not saying D. Brown should be an All-Star, but at least give him what he deserves and put him over Bogues. 
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: David Falk
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:17:45 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <BzAJrL.z0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>radkel@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>> Michigan star Chris Webber on experience: "Being older doesn't mean that 
>>you're better.  I think it's good if a sophomore like David Falk wins the
>>Heisman trophy."
>> Thinking ahead, Chris?
>
>	I guess Chris doesn't follow football too well either.  It's
>	Marshall, not David...
>
>	Jazzy J

I think that was the point Jazzy.  Sort of the Freudian slip...  Chris MEANT
to say Marshall, but I think the intent of the post was to point out that
maybe he was thinging about agents instead...  At least, that's how I 
read it...
>
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|   " I try to discover a little something to make me sweeter..."   --Erasure |
>|   Jazzy J               jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu         U-Illinois/Urbana |
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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Shaq
Date: 12 Dec 1992 03:48:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Anyone who saw TNT bonus coverage can see why Orlando is losing now.  Shaq
could have scored 40pts, 20rebs, and they will still lose because at the end
of the game, he will be fouled and miss the free-throws.  I saw him miss 2,
which would have at least forced an overtime.  Until Shaq learns this skill,
the Magic will be victimized by everyone in the league at the end of the
game. (Not to take anything away from Pheonix, they played smart at the
end fouling Shaq)

Mike
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: All-time team greats
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:51:29 GMT


	A better judge of all-time greats is perhaps to form an all-time
	team for a particular club.  This has worked rather well in rsbc,
	so I'll try it here.  Let's go w/ the Celtics.  Send me your
	all-time greats in this format:

	-- 1 1st team, with 2 guards, 2 forwards, and 1 center (each 1st
	team member will get 2 votes)

	-- any # of players U wish to include on the bench.

	Our first team -- of course -- the Boston Celtics.

	I'll tabulate the votes and post results after X-mas break.

	Jazzy J
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From: hamoudy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Mohamad E Allaf)
Subject: Re: 76ers need BIG-time help!!!!!!!!
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:27:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.225502.1@wharton.upenn.edu> reille85@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>HERE'S A TRADE....
>
>The Philadelphia 76ers badly need many, many, many things.  They happen to have
>an overabundance of "2" guards (Hawkins, Hornacek, Dawkins)   So, here goes.
>How about...
>	Jeff Hornacek, Armon Gilliam, and Johnny Dawkins to Cleveland for
>Mark Price, "Hot Rod" Williams, and a #1 draft pick.
>
>     or Hornacek, Gilliam, and Dawkins to Seattle for Payton and McKey.
>
>THE 76ers need help BADLY!!!!


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From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: Re: new jimmy jax rumor? 
Keywords: Jimmy Jackson
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:15:16 GMT

>on KMPC (LA) last night i heard the following ...
>
>seattle has a deal on the table which sends payton and doug christie's
>rights to little D for JJ's rights.

This is not going to happen.

Why do people believe these rumors?  I have seen about a hundred "rumors"
proposed on the net in the last month, and none of them have panned out.
That's enough to meake ME skeptical, but since it hasn't detered a lot of
the people, I'll throw this one out for your enjoyment.

I "heard" that the Rockets will trade Hakeem Olajuwon to Seattle.  Seattle
will send Gary PAyton to Dallas, Benoit Benjamin and the rights to Doug 
Christie to Miami, who will send Brian Shaw to Dteroit and Alan Ogg to Dallas.
Dtroit will send Dennis Rodman to Boston, who will send Xavier Mcdaniel back
to the Knicks, who will send Charles Oakley to the Clippers for Kiki Vandeweghe
and the Clips' third-round pick next year.  The pick will be sent to Dallas, 
and the Knicks will send Anthony MAson and the rights to Carlton McKinney to 
the Rockets.  Oh yeah, and Miami will get cash and some hair tonic from NY. 

Should be a blockbuster.

GT
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Suns and the Salary Cap
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:54:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Bz4MAx.J96@techbook.com>,
eriksa@techbook.com (Erik Anderson) writes:
}koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
}>I'd hold on to it for next year - remember they own Philly's #1 and that's
}>likely to be a high lottery since they have the second worst record in the
}>league currently.  Who else thinks that Jason Williams was worth the second
}>pick in the next draft?  Philly has the worst front office in the league.
}
}I wish that was true, but it's inaccurate.  The Sixers will retain their
}'93 pick if it's a lottery pick.  If it's not a lottery pick, then the
}Suns will get it.  If the Suns don't get the pick this year, then they
}will get the Sixers' '94 first round choice no matter where it is in the
}draft.

Damn.  I knew it was too good to be true.  Even Philly couldn't be
*that* dumb.

Well, '93 isn't supposed to be a very good draft anyway.  Maybe
Phoenix will end up with a high draft pick in '94.


BTW, I saw the Sixers-Clippers game on TV last night.  Hornacek was
sensational (13-23 9-9 36, plus 7 rebounds and 4 assists), but
really seems to be hating life in Philly.  Near the end of the game,
when it became clear that Philly was going to lose, he started
slamming the ball against the floor in a very Barkley-ish way.  I
don't remember him ever doing that in Phoenix.


Oh, and while I'm here, he's an interesting stat:  In last night's
Phoenix-Orlando game, Orlando shot 51.9% to Phoenix's 46.0%.
Orlando made 72.7% from the line; Phoenix 64.5%.  Orlando made more
field goals (41) than Phoenix (40), and more free throws (24 vs. 20).

Phoenix won the game.


Tony
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Best NBA Players!
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:43:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1g93mgINN1e2@menudo.uh.edu> svec5@menudo.uh.edu (T.C. Zhao) writes:
>In article <wf9uDWq00iV144ym4Z@andrew.cmu.edu> Kenon Warren Tutein <kt25+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Hey, I think Patrick Ewing and David Robinson are better than Hakeem. 
>
>I never understood why Patrick Ewing is rated so high by so many people. 
>Despite his size, Ewing does not block, does not score inside the paint.
>On the other hand, Hakeem outscores, outrebounds, outblocks,
>outsteals Ewing, how can Ewing is better than Hakeem ?


I think public perception of a player is greatly affected by how
well that player's team does.  If you had taken a poll in the Summer
of '91, I'd bet Olajuwon would have ranked higher than Ewing.  But
last year, Houston had a dismal year, and New York had a tremendous
season.  All of a sudden, Ewing is the top center.

There's definitely something to this theory.  How else would you
explain Clyde Drexler's 2nd overall finish in MVP voting?  I mean,
yeah, he's great, but 2nd best player in the league?

Tony
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From: sikorski@oj.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski)
Subject: Re: NBA tickets
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: University of Miami, RSMAS
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:18:04 GMT

In article <4819@svin09.info.win.tue.nl> klerk@bs.win.tue.nl writes:
>
>... I'm planning on flying to New York for a short holiday and during
>those days I want to visit some games.

Hi Andre,

I finally got through to my local TicketMaster in Miami, and they said
that they carry tickets for _all_ the NBA games, but you have to contact
TicketMaster in the team's home state. A major credit card will no doubt
help... 

For the New York Knicks, that's 212-307-7171
For the Miami Heat, that's 305-358-5885 (not that you asked, but avid
r.s.bb.p readers suspect it will soon be seen in my Miami Heat posts ;-)

You can get the TicketMaster numbers for other states from either of these.
I guess you cold track down team box-offices too, but TicketMaster should
be able to mail the tickets to you without too much trouble.

--
Richard Sikorski     sikorski@oj.miami.edu
                   r.sikorski@rsmas.miami.edu
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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: BOXSCORE phi18orl18.15dec92
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:34:12 GMT


phi 107, orl 119   15dec92

dnp: orl - bowie,anthony(cd)
           reynolds,jerry(cd)

illegal defense: orl(1),phi(3)

technical fouls: illegal defense(6:47 1st, 1:46 2nd)

phi ( 5-13)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
weatherspoon,clar 26   7  18   0  0   4  4   2  5   0  3  0  0  0  0  0  0   18
hawkins,hersey    35   5  10   3  5   7 11   0  0   3  2  1  2  0  0  0  0   20
lang,andrew       27   1   8   0  0   7  8   5  6   2  4  1  2  3  0  0  0    9
dawkins,johnny    30   5  12   0  1   0  1   0  1   3  4  2  1  0  0  0  0   10
hornacek,jeff     29   6  15   2  4   0  0   0  6   6  3  0  3  1  0  0  0   14
perry,tim         21   4   8   0  1   0  0   2  6   3  4  0  0  1  0  0  0    8
anderson,ron      15   4  11   0  0   0  0   2  6   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    8
grant,greg        23   1   4   1  2   0  0   0  0   5  3  1  0  0  0  0  0    3
gilliam,armon     13   2   8   0  0   7  8   4  5   1  2  0  1  0  0  0  0   11
shackleford,charl  9   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0    0
bol,manute        12   2   4   0  0   2  2   1  4   0  1  1  1  1  0  0  0    6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
phi totals       240  37  99   6 13  27 34  16 39  23 28  7 10  6  0  0  0  107
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .374   .462   .794       team rebs 13
procedure technicals 2

orl ( 9- 9)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
scott,dennis      43   9  18   3  7   4  5   1  3   1  3  0  2  1  0  0  0   25
tolbert,tom       22   3   7   0  0   3  4   1  6   0  2  1  0  0  0  0  0    9
o'neal,shaquille  29   6   9   0  0   8 11   3 14   1  4  0  5  6  0  0  0   20
skiles,scott      32   3   8   0  1   3  3   2  7  13  1  0  7  0  0  0  0    9
anderson,nick     34   9  18   2  4   1  2   3  8   2  4  2  2  1  0  0  0   21
royal,donald      11   0   1   0  0   0  2   0  0   1  2  0  0  1  0  0  0    0
kite,greg         10   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  6   0  4  0  1  0  0  0  0    0
turner,jeff       25   9  13   0  0   4  4   4  6   0  3  1  2  0  0  0  0   22
kerr,steve        18   4   5   0  0   0  0   0  2   4  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    8
green,litterial   16   1   6   0  0   3  6   0  1   5  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
orl totals       240  44  85   5 12  26 37  14 53  27 25  4 20  9  0  0  0  119
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .518   .417   .703       team rebs 16

phi   32  20  24  31  -  107
orl   40  29  31  19  -  119

attendance 15151, time 2:10, officials: HHollins,DStafford,MCallahan
From: hamoudy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Mohamad E Allaf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: 76ers need BIG-time help!!!!!!!!
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:35:08 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <1h1jn7INN3u0@sumax.seattleu.edu> davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.003509.24350@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec18.225502.1@wharton.upenn.edu> reille85@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>>>HERE'S A TRADE....
>>>
>>>The Philadelphia 76ers badly need many, many, many things.  They happen to have
>>>an overabundance of "2" guards (Hawkins, Hornacek, Dawkins)   So, here goes.
>>>How about...
>>>	Jeff Hornacek, Armon Gilliam, and Johnny Dawkins to Cleveland for
>>>Mark Price, "Hot Rod" Williams, and a #1 draft pick.
>>>
>>>     or Hornacek, Gilliam, and Dawkins to Seattle for Payton and McKey.
>>>
>>>THE 76ers need help BADLY!!!!
>>
     I am one of those people that believes that the Barkley trade was bad and that he could have been traded for more.  Anyway that is in the past and so is trading Brad Daugherty (1st pick) and gettin Bol for a first round pick (infact it is this years)...Hey that is all in the past.   The Sixers Suck, they need help soon or they will be cokmpeting with Dallas for the worst team in NBA history.  Here is what I think they should do:

        1.  Bol and Shakelford's contracts are up this year...DO NOT RESIGN EITHER ONE.  This frees up a great deal of money for free agents.  Of course Katz will see a superstar in Eddie Wilkins and will sign him for all that money when there are real quality players out there.  Sign a GOOD player not 4 mediocre ones!

 	2.  Trade Gilliam, Lang, Hawkins (or Hornacek) for a good center, sixers need a real one for a change.  There was talk of Hakeem that he wasnot happy in Houston,  i don't know I don't think that would go, but at least it is on the right track.

	3.  Trade one of the 2 guards and some other player for a good point guard.  Hornacek is not bad, but if the sixers had a good point guard Hornacek plays the position he was an all star with (2 guard).  Good point guards who play that position all the time make things happen.

		Just some proposals....Could work, but then how can the sixers get any worse.

							Mohamad---
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From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: waste of talent
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:21:46
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
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In-reply-to: art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:05:05 GMT

>>>>> "NG" == NG LING LING <art30248@nusunix1.nus.sg> writes:
  NG> Does anyone know what happened to the player who wins my

Don't know but...

  NG> "Biggest Waste of Talent" award, TITO HORFORD ?

... this presumes talent to begin with.

  NG> Note: David Robinson once said he was afraid to play Horford!

Yeah, and I stopped playing Ultimate against total scrubs when I realized
how easy it is to get hurt, when they get a tad overzealous.

--
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From: c60c-1hk@web-1c.berkeley.edu (Alvin Cham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Go Lakers!!!!
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:14:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Originator: c60c-1hk@web-1c.berkeley.edu

Hey Laker fans,

As a Laker fan, I am proundly to say that the Lakers have been playing their 
best basketball since the retirement of Magic.  Although their recent opponents
aren't the ones that can really win the championship (except for Portland),
but they have been blowing away every sub-500 teams convincingly at home.  
Not too many teams can do that, I supposed....  But the question is, are
they for real?  I still don't think that they can win the whole thing or even
get past the second round in the playoffs even they are on pace to win 50+
games.  Well, they are playing Phoenix this Friday, a tough test and a good
chance to prove themselves.  Are they really good?  Let me hear what you
guys think...

						-alvin
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From: andy@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Re: 85-86 Celtics vs 91-92 Bulls.g
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:14:05 GMT

Actually the Celts went with an 8 man rotation that year with Walton, Wedman
and Jerry Sichsting.  Walton won the 6 th man award that year.

Andy

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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: 85-86 Celtics vs 91-92 Bulls.g
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:43:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.
Keywords: Lakers, Pacific Division

In article <1gll6mINNppj@mozz.unh.edu> daw@kepler.unh.edu (David A White) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.055101.4874@cc.umontreal.ca> iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul) writes:
>>I hear that the 85-86 Celtics had a truly awesome team. Who
>>would win a seven game series between them and the 91-92
>>two peat Bulls?
>>I am missing several players on the 85-86 Celts roster.
>>
>>92 BULLS                        86 CELTICS
>>Coach: Phil Jackson             Coach: ??
>>
>>PG: John Paxson                 PG: ??
>>SG: Michael Jordan              SG: ??
>>C : Bill Cartwright             C : Robert Parrish
>>SF: Scottie Pippen              SF: Larry Bird
>>PF: Horace Grant                PF:
>>
>>Bench:
>>BJ Armstrong                    Bill Walton
>>Scott Williams                  Kevin McHale
>>Cliff Levingston
>>Will Perdue
>>Craig Hodges
>>Stacy King
>>
>
>    Well, I can help a little with who was on the Celt back then, here goes
>  
>	    The best starting five of all time:
>
>	    PG: Dennis Johnson
>	    SG: Danny Ainge
>	    C : Robert Parish
>	    SF: Larry Bird
>	    PF: Kevin McHale   (it was a started back then)
>
>	    Bench:
>		 Bill Walton
>		 Jerry Sichting
>		 Scott Wedman
>		 Greg Kite
>		 ?
>
>    I hope this helped.........

Don't forget the coach... The immortal KC Jones!!!!  (much better coach
than Phil Jackson, IMHO)
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From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: Re: K
Keywords: 'K'
Organization: Micom Communications Corp., Simi Valley, Ca.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:21:49 GMT

grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin) writes:

> ... Kenon was aa better scorer and all-around
> player, though his defense was a bit lax as well.  A good player though,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> in NY and San Antonio.

hmmm.  well, he DOES hold the nba record for most steals in a game (11),
doesn't he?  in all honesty though, he was probably alvin's defensive
ancestor ... the ultimate gambler.

james
From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Sprewell and the SEC
Keywords: SEC Draft
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:59:02 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <1992Dec17.164440.16662@news.stolaf.edu> richarje@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (JT) writes:
>
>All-Stars -- arguably more than the ACC and Big 10.  The past few years, the 
>SEC has been of the leading coferences for good draft picks, comparable to any
> conference in the nation.  Comments?

Only two very obvious ones: 

1) Does this beg the question of why haven't they done better at tournament time?;

2) Should we move the discussion to a more appropriate newsgroup?


....al
w.a. mckay
desert research institute
reno, nevada
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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Amused
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:17:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.142359.61950@cc.usu.edu> alanj@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>Sorry to be rude but . . .  GET A LIFE! 

What's your problem?  Just because someone else put in a little more research
than you would have doesn't give you the right to be...rude (that's your word).
Get some manners.  I liked his article.

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From: repeat@athena.mit.edu (David A. Irvine)
Subject: Mark Price
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:20:03 GMT



When is Mark Price expected to return?  I thought it would only
be two or three days.

-Dave

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From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Subject: Re: Suns atop the NBA/Trade with Spurs?
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Phoenix, AZ
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:54:57 GMT


Forgot to add that it would be a homecoming for Elliot (local boy).
--

    Mike
    
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       - wilde silas tomkyn
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gideon Avrahami)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers? AARRGGHH!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:33:36 GMT
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath

centeno@pasadena-dc.bofa.com (R. CENTENO) writes:
>		1) No Magic (Played all pre-season with him.)
>		2) New Coach
>		3) New System
>		4) New Players (Peeler, Cooper, Edwards)
>		5) Injuries (Scott, Smith) (Worthy not 100% IMHO)
>Now...How many teams do you know would have the 4th best record in the NBA
>under the above circumstances???  

How about the 1990 San Antonio Spurs?  They had two rookies in Robinson
and Elliott, a completely revamped lineup, a second year coach (Larry
Brown), the fourth best record (56-26) and most important of all -- they
didn't have Magic Johnson!  Even worse than that, they had to play
*against* him whenevr they played the Lakers!

Now that's adversity.


--Gidi		(lakers in three)



PS: The comments above contain a certain amount of sarcasm.  If you
cannot detect it and wish to flame me, you may want to consult
a professional first.

--G