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From: schwae@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: "Two-Tone Town"
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:13:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.234858.1168@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> klein@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) writes:
>Well, like most of the eps this season, it had its moments,
>but hardly a classic.
>
I don't know, it could be a classic.  I liked it enough, except
that the ending was too sad, but sad endings don't mean it was
lousy.
 
>As in "Fields of Honey", we have the return of classic WB
>Mickey and Minnie clones, but it comes off a little better,
>I dunno why.  I like Roxy better than Honey.
>
I liked Bosco better than Foxy, in general  Foxy was a better character,
and it is pretty easy to figure out what he is, but I found his accent
and mannerisms kind of grating.  I do like Roxy much, much better than Honey,
though. 

>What I DOn't like:
>
>Buster looks grotesque in drag.  Also Charlie Adler's Southern 
>accent is brain-melting.
>
So don't ask him out.  >-)

>Greg Burson does a lousy Sam.
>
I wouldn't say lousy, since he is much better at it than I am, but
I did find it more than a liittle lacking in authenticity.  Kind of
hollow sounding, without the deeper undercurrents of the voice.

E.S.
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From: schwae@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Inside dirt on the Two-Tones
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:37:55 GMT

In article <01GPBWCOEVV48WWB3H@SNYOSWVA.BITNET> IAEXP000@BLURT.OSWEGO.EDU writes:
> 
>From _The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Cartoon Animals_ by Jeff Rovin - 
>page 98...
> 
>-Foxy-
>Pedigree. Early cartoon character from Warner Brothers.
>Biography. A bipedial fox who looks like Mickey Mouse, exept for his
>  spats, fluffy tail, and ears - which are shaped like spades on playing 
>  cards. Foxy is an impatient, sometimes violent critter. At a saloon in 
>  his screen debut ("Lady Play Your Mandolin") he punches out his 
>  horse when the animal wants to dance. In his second cartoon (Smile, 
>  Darn Ya, Smile) he whips out a pin and punctures a heavyset woman
>  who can't squeeze into a trolley. Foxy has an un-named fox girlfriend
>  who looks just like him.

I think the lack of violence is what made his character so grating to
me at first.  He has that tough accent, but did nothing at all except
sing with Goopy in TTT.  More violence from him is definitely needed,
and then I'll be hopng to see more of him iin the '94 season too. :-)


>Comment. There were only three Foxy cartoons,all of them released in 1931.
> 
Comment.  Shame.

E.S.
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From: schwae@barh1a.its.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: JENNY LEREW  DID YOU GET MY FAX?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:59:35 GMT

............Stuff like this, on the other hand, is not particularly
funny, and is just pointlessly crude.  I don't mind crude, but it
should at least have a point.  

Having just read the "Doctored" version of the FAQ, however, I'd
like to say that "Elmer Presley" was one of my favorite all-time
scenes.  Thanks, J.L.  :-)

E.S. 
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From: jackie8@pyuxe.uucp (25853-brady)
Subject: Re: TINY TOONS Upcoming Episodes!
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 13:56:13 GMT
Keywords: Babies

In article <rdippold.718337967@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>gundlach@helena.stat.uga.edu (Gundlach Family account) writes:
>>Why is it (please, no flame :) ) that everyone is slobbering over
>>something called "Tiny toons?" I mean, it's a cool show and all, but,
>>come on, your 20 something years old! And "Tom and Jerry's kid show?"
>>Act your age. (Bye the way, I'm not a 60 year old nagging grandmother.
>>I'm in the prime of my life. 11.)
>
>See that's yore problem, son.  The jokes, I say, the jokes, go raht over
>yoah head.  It's an intelligent cartoon that doesn't pander and it's
>got plenty of jokes for adults.

(Stand up when I'm talkin' at ya, Son.  That's this boy's problem. Never
standin' up foa himself.
I'm sorry. This is one of the *best* replies to this "Why is it" post.
I nearly fell off my chair listening to Foghorn, er ah, Ron. :-)

As for why us 20somethings like cartoons...I, for one, never got
into Tiny Toons (ouch! Stop throwing those!:) but I am a big fan
on LT/MM cartoons.  Like the other people said, they have jokes that
are aimed more towards adults, and take on kind of a different
flair when you really pay attention to them.  I also have a 38 year old
brother who is a LT/MM fan too. 

Cartoons are so different now, that it'd be hard to understand why
we still like ours.  Trust us.  We know what we're doing, even if we ARE
old.  :-) Where's my cane.

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From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Two-tone Toons
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:07:22 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In article <1a9a3uINNcbg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High) writes:
>
>Hi guys!  Just got the inside scoop from my local animation
>expert - 
>
>"Two-Tone Toons" was in fact a preview of the upcoming 
> "Animaniacs".  Did anyone note the date on the episode - it's
>  been on the shelf since 1990!

Actually, we've noticed that the copyright dates seem to be attached
to the "tag-lines", i.e., "Alo-o-o-ha", rather than to the show.

>Foxy, Roxy and Goopy are all OLD OLD Warner Bros. characters 
>  (actually, I'm not sure about Roxy...).  

Yeah, back in the "let's clone Disney" days...

> - net.spy! (who actually has his sweatly little paws on the
>  Animaniacs character model sheets)

Cool!


-- 
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Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
klein@frith.egr.msu.edu|  chemical vats." - Ty Templeton
From: jrjohns@eos.ncsu.edu (John R. Johns II)
Subject: Re: EXTRA NEW EPISODE THIS WEEK!!!
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:52:32 GMT

Hey, Pete....Now that you HAVE seen "Take Elmyra, Please" 
I'll bet you wish you had remained ignorant of it, eh?
<grin>  Sigh, a blemish on the face of TTA...if it wasn't
good enough to pilot a new series, why'd the even bother
to use it in TTA?  And the overdubbing at the beginning...
Ugh....you can TELL it's dubbed, it's so OBVIOUS...

- John


-- 
 /~  John R. Johns II  -  Senior -  Computer Engineering  ~\
 \_  What .signature?  It must be your imagination, bud.  _/
From: kmeyer@unf6.unf.edu (Karl Meyers)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: JENNY LEREW  DID YOU GET MY FAX?
Summary: Ignoring Roger Rabbit
Keywords: Tiny Toon Adventures
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:55:40 GMT
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

>Eric> Having just read the "Doctored" version of the FAQ, however, I'd
>Eric> like to say that "Elmer Presley" was one of my favorite all-time
>Eric> scenes.  Thanks, J.L.  :-)

>Judas Priest!  You mean that you haven't received the original at your
>site yet?  Well, if there are other folks experiencing the same
>situation:  for the record, RR's forgery (thankfully) did not tamper
>with any other info in the FAQ aside from the obvious sections.  For
>some reason he did remove from the posting all dashes and certain other
>punctuation.  Whaaaatever.

I noticed that too, on comparing it to the FAQ I have saved to disk at
home.  I was expecting the bastard to get really nasty with the forgery,
but it wasn't that bad.  Still...get 'im, Synth ! :)

And remember kids: Roger Rabbit's *NOT* a Warner toon.  So, what does
he know about Tiny Toons?  Hmm?  I think you here me knocking, and I 
think I'm coming in, and I'm bringing the entire a.t.t-t cast with me.
:)

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From: IAEXP000@BLURT.OSWEGO.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Inside dirt on the Two-Tones
Date: 28 Sep 1992 19:01:53 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 
A shady looking character in a trenchcoat shuffles up.
 
"Pssst... Want to get the inside dirt on the two-tones? I'll tell ya what 
I got... for a small price.  Well O.K. for free..."
 
From _Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies - A Complete Illustrated Guide to 
the Warner Brothers Cartoons_ by Jerry Beck and Will Friedwald (If you 
don't have this book, for Gods sake! Go get it!) : page 10-11 ...
 
GOOPY GEAR (1932)
   In a crowded nightclub, everyone is asking for Goopy Gear, the star 
performer. Goopy, a piano-playing dog character, comes on stage and 
performs the number "I Have Not Studied Music." He sees three cats 
eating spaghetti and accompanies them to the tune of "The Sidewalks of
New York."  Goopy next performes "Tiger Rag" four handed - his two hands
and two gloves!
   A waiter orders a bowl of soup, witch is prepared by a chicken that 
swims in a pot. Goopy is joined on stage by a girl singer who croons, "I
Need Lovin." Goopy then does a soft shoe that starts the whole club dancing,
including a pair of coat racks that dance with hats and canes. A horse gets
drunk, looks in the mirror, and starts to see horrible images of monsters.
The horse begins to spit fire, which destroys Goopy's piano, ending this 
cartoon.
   No story, just music and dance. This was Harman-Ising's way to end the
depression blues. The crowd scenes are lifted from "Lady Play Your Mandolin"
(1931).
 
From _The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Cartoon Animals_ by Jeff Rovin - 
page 98...
 
-Foxy-
Pedigree. Early cartoon character from Warner Brothers.
Biography. A bipedial fox who looks like Mickey Mouse, exept for his
  spats, fluffy tail, and ears - which are shaped like spades on playing 
  cards. Foxy is an impatient, sometimes violent critter. At a saloon in 
  his screen debut ("Lady Play Your Mandolin") he punches out his 
  horse when the animal wants to dance. In his second cartoon (Smile, 
  Darn Ya, Smile) he whips out a pin and punctures a heavyset woman
  who can't squeeze into a trolley. Foxy has an un-named fox girlfriend
  who looks just like him.
Comment. There were only three Foxy cartoons,all of them released in 1931.
 
The mysterious stranger hops into a cab and rockets off into the sunset.
      ____________                                                 
   ,-/___________/-----,                  Marc Hart                 
  ,--|          |-----;           iaexp000@blurt.oswego.edu
  |__|  A C M E |____/    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-        
     |__________|/            (sung to the tune of "My Cherona")
     ,---|__|/----,             "Want to hear a cheezy song, 
    /____________/|                   and anvil gongs?"
    |___________|/          The episode for you is DUCK-LA-HOMA!"
From: rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Mr. Hiker
Date: 28 Sep 1992 19:04:35 -0700
Organization: Southern California Lynx Enthusiasts
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <01GPBNRMZ5LC8WWAPJ@SNYOSWVA.BITNET> IAEXP000@BLURT.OSWEGO.EDU writes:
>Did anybody realize that when they called our chainsaw toting pal 'Hitcher' in
>the credits for "New Class Day" that they are assuming everybody has seen
>HISMV? In "Going Up" he never hitchhiked, and the name would be totally
>meaningless without HISMV.

  Well, the casual TTA viewer won't even glance at the credits, and wouldn't
give a darn. These are the same schmucks who miss the gag credits at the end
and have to scramble to catch up when they finally discover that each show
DOES end with a little extra or three...  B-)

  In contrast, the truly devoted toonsters will have watched and memorized
HISMV, and will appreciate the "Mr. Hitcher" reference.  B-)

>Things that make you go Hmmmwhocares.

  Hmmmwhocares.  B-)

> (Can't wait to see what "Grandma's Dead" is about)

  I just hope it's not Babs' grandma...Love that purple hue!

                                                --R.J.
                                                B-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   Plucky: "Hey, we don't have to stay here. My dad's car is right outside."
  Shirley: "Right. So's your dad. He drove us, remember?"
~~~~~~~~~~~ These opinions are all mine, but you're welcome to 'em. ~~~~~~~~~~
Stay Tiny Tooned!                     Send assorted silliness to rjung@usc.edu
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: 2-Tone Town (government approved spoiler-free)
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:01:20 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson) writes:
>	I don't think I've seen an animated character make a good
>jump to comics. 

How about Carl Barks and the Donald Duck / Uncle Scrooge comics?  Of
course that started quite a while ago...

>> >>(And those who cling to a TTA revival in '94, I admire your faith,
>>but...you're going to vote for Ross Perot, too, aren't you?)
>>
>	Ouch.  BTW, _I_'m voting Libertarian.

Good move!
-- 
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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: ACK! Kill the writer!
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 21:38:33 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <BvCpuM.BrF@acsu.buffalo.edu> v148rb5b@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (COLLIN MCCULLEY) writes:
>In the two-tone episode:
>Buster: "I'm in treble now!" 
>
>	Now *that* was really painful. :)

PUN ALERT! Hit 'n' if you don't want to read a groaner...


Truly a Bass pun if I ever heard one.


-- 
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 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
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From: vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell))
Subject: Re: "Two-Tone Town"
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:20:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.193615.17088@muddcs.claremont.edu> tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu (T. Erik Browne) writes:
>
>I'm sorry, but you are mistaken.  I just checked, and Greg Burson did
>Daffy.  Maurice LaMarche, who regularly does Dizzy, did Yosemite Sam.  But
>you are correct that it was a lousy Sam.

It sure was.  I think one reason for this is that Yosemite Sam's voice was
the closest to Mel Blanc's real voice.  Especially when Sam talked softly.
Greg Burson's Daffy was pretty poor also, but a hell of a lot better than
his rendition of Pepe Le Pew in "Who Bopped Bugs Bunny."

>>I hate it when TMS draws mouths that droop off the characters'
>>faces.  (Or is this the *storyboarders*' fault >:) )

No, it's a flaw of TMS.  Small price to pay, IMHO.  It did bother me a little
at the end of the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" number in TTMTV.

   VGR

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From: fong_jh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Julian H Fong)
Subject: Re: The net.script
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:49:28 GMT

In article <92Sep27.232712.23902@acs.ucalgary.ca> gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Sean Brandenburg) writes:
>I don't want to repost "Babsie on Board" for another month, for the following 
>reasons:
>
>1) Most of the new season will have been discussed to death by then,
>2) I am *extremely* busy right now with school-type stuff.
>3) I want to put the script into the proper format first.  Of course, I can't 
>   do that until I find out what the proper format is.  If anyone (especially 
>   any TTA employees that might read this group :-) knows how TTA likes their 
>   scripts mangled (a formatting document would be perfect), please get in 
>   touch with me!
>-- 
>Sean Brandenburg         | Gosalyn:  Keen gear!  I'm modular!
>gsbrande@acs.ucalgary.ca |      -- Monsters R Us

	No problem -- take your time.  

	As for the formatting, I noticed that character names were given in
all caps throughout the airbag sequence; this needs to be corrected.  The
only new characters introduced in the airbag sequence are STEVEN SPIELBERG
and MICHAEL J. FOX.

	BTW -- I think the airbag sequence should have its length cut down,
but the premise is sound enough that it should be left in.  I also like the
idea of having Buster, Hamton and Plucky leave the car individually, unless
this is shown to take up too much time.  It bothers me to have them show up
in the story, get abused for a while, and then disappear even faster than
they arrived.  


-- 
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon,alt.tv.tiny-toon.plucky-duck,rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: TINY TOONS Upcoming Episodes! (GIF update, new address, TPDS numbers)
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:45:39 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>In article <1aqq08INNig3@aludra.usc.edu> rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:
>>  Watch a few quality episodes.

>That caveat is important -- The good Tiny Toons episodes are some of
>the best stuff on television, but the bad ones are among the worst junk
>on TV.  Avoid the "preachy" ones at all cost.  "Whale's Tales" for
>instance -- I can't imagine "Captain <retch> Planet" being any worse.

Hah, another who just can't comprehend the depths to which a _truly_
preachy cartoon can sink.  Believe you me, if Captain Planet ran
something like Whale's Tales, regular watchers would wonder why they
had run such a "messageless" episode.  Green in this case is the color
of vomit.
-- 
Marriage still confers one very special privilege - only a married
person can get divorced.
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From: markb@cimage.com (Mark Bernstein)
Subject: Re: "Two-Tone Town"
Organization: Cimage Corp, Ann Arbor, MI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 12:07:39 GMT

VGR (Craig Pell) (vgriscep@wam.umd.edu) wrote:
: 
: I think one reason for this is that Yosemite Sam's voice was
: the closest to Mel Blanc's real voice.  Especially when Sam talked softly.
: 
Actually, Blanc himself said (and I agree) that the toon most like his
real voice was Sylvester, only without the spitting.

I do agree that LaMarche's Sam sounded wrong, though.

(I've also read that Sam's *personality* was modeled on Friz Freleng.)

Mark Bernstein
markb@cimage.com
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From: rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM (Dr. Roger Rabbit)
Subject: JENNY LEREW  DID YOU GET MY FAX?
Organization: CAT-TALK Conferencing System
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 09:49:56 GMT

JENNY  I faxed you some stories a few weeks back as well as some pictures
of Babs and Buster doing it. Did you get them? If so, did you show them
to Speilberg? 
 
I faxed them directly to your animation dept. FAX number. If you didn't
get them, I can resend. 

Roger
 
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>>> Hutch, Roscommon, MI 48653 EMAIL: rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM
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From: ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Arkayn)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon,alt.tv.tiny-toon.plucky-duck,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Why tinytoons?
Keywords: Babies
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:14:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University

gundlach@helena.stat.uga.edu (Gundlach Family account) writes:


>Why is it (please, no flame :) ) that everyone is slobbering over
>something called "Tiny toons?" I mean, it's a cool show and all, but,
>come on, your 20 something years old! And "Tom and Jerry's kid show?"
>Act your age. (Bye the way, I'm not a 60 year old nagging grandmother.
>I'm in the prime of my life. 11.)
>Please feel free to try to enlighten me on this a little.

Mike. It's very simple. Tiny toons is a wonderful release from reality for those
of us who have FAR higher levels of stress than you have encountered yet, or
will for some years yet. Tiny Toons is a well written cartoon, which is
very humorous for any age, but actually probably funnier for adults, because
there are many things in it that the younger ones out there would not catch.

And, incidentally, if you do not wish to be flamed, never ever tell a bunch of
people who've been around a LOT longer than you have to 'Act your age.'
Sometimes, these 'kids' shows are the best ways for us to get away from having
to.

Consider yourself enlightened. And also, pay attention in school. You're in
the most free, careless time of your life. Not the best, just the least worrys.
Enjoy it, but on the other hand, pay attention if you have any good instructors.
I wish that I had paid a little better attention now.

-- 
"How dare they demand merit in return for a raise?!!" Modern Educators Magazine
"What? Lie? Me? The truth is FAR too much fun!" -- James Hook
Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
Andy Miller   ajmiller@sage.cc.purdue.edu	ajmiller@ecn.purdue.edu
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From: schwae@barh109.its.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Who *was* that leather-clad maskless woman?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:16:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.001806.22274@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>
>(Hi Eric! How's it goin'?)
>
Life sucks.  But at least I got mah Tee-Tee-Ay!  :-)

E.S.
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