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From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Re: FontSel 1/1
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:52:06 GMT

In article <7f5Y024Tc84j00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:
>Questions which come to mind:
>- can you translate other fonts to 200 points?

Via the .XXX extension. Yes. Most with no problems.

>- can you translate Davy's Dings to, say, 100 points?

Yes. I have used a 200 pt on disk, turned off the CDEV Pointless, and then
used a 100 point font. That way, it's still there for the printer driver.

>- are the chars messed up in every program you use?  (i.e. both Teach and
>  AWGS or BeagleDraw or whatever)

Uh, yes. Teach and AWGS, and sometimes GWIII. I haven't bought Beagledraw,
so I don't know what would happen. I also used Paintworks Platnum. Same
result. The other weird thing that sometimes (well consistently from a
remap, but not from remap to remap) a character will print OK, but then
backspace over itself. Really weird.

>- how much memory is free?  (New York 200 required about 400K on disk)

Dunno. I have 4 meg in my Rom03. S6 + Finder take up about 1.2, and
after launching, say Teach, I have about 3.2 free... When I map
D.O.D. I have about 2.2 free (100 point) and when I print I have
less than 700 free. (according to memory and chronos II.)
Nothing larger than 100 point will print out.

>I've heard that some of the more creative fonts have problems.  If you
>can find a font which is always messed up, let WestCode know about it.

The ones I've really had problems with have been Davy's, and also Wedgie.
I'm trying to download from "earth.rs.itd.umich.edu" but I'm having troub
unpacking them. (I cant get uncompactor or unstuffit deluxe to unpack
properly on the LCs at school.)

BTW: What really is the difference between the type1, type3 and regular
truetype fonts? At earth, they seem to be cross-referenced a lot.
From: TJK111@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Postscript
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:13:24 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Why don't you tell us about PageWriter GS right here?
I am interested...
_______________________________________________________________________________
Thomas Kishel                AOL ThomasK63                 TJK111@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo)
Subject: Re: Sonic Blaster and System 6.0
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:06:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.014651.1236@cs.rose-hulman.edu> julichjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Joseph H Julicher) writes:
>I was wondering if anybody else has had any problems with the software
>included with sonic blaster and sys 6.  I can't digitize more than a
>split second until I fool with some of the record speed scrollers
>then when I hit record the system hangs.

I have an Audio Animator, and its software doesn't work under system 6
either. (it /does/ work under beta d61 though)

Does AE even do Apple II support anymore? If so, has anyone heard if
they're going to upgrade the software?

 Shane

:GS::::::::::Genesis game system? ::::::::: Interceptor Cycle ?::::::::::GS:
:   Shane M. Zatezalo         : i-net> szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  :
:   Comp/Elec Eng, Ohio State :  Who'd ya expect, Elmer Fudd? - M. Jordan  :
:GS:::: Apple II forever!! ::::::GO BUCKS!::::::: Play Lacrosse! ::::::::GS:
From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: re: laserprinter driver & serial port
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:03:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Kim,

I do hope you are wrong (the driver ONLY works via Appletalk) but I
wouldn't be surprised if you are right -- it's been only recently that
laserwriter clones are cheap enough that one wouldn't feel compelled to
network them.  I do have one question, however -- when you tried to run
the printer over the serial port were you ABSOLUTELY sure you had the
right kind of cable?  I do know that a garden variety printer cable
won't work, nor, in fact, will even a modem cable with a null modem
adapter, since neither hooks up the hardware flow control right.  Let's
see if one of the Apple gurus has an answer.  (I really am tempted to
get AWGS, for several reasons, but not if I have to get Appletalk cables
etc.  too, since I don't think I can get WordPerfect to work over
Appletalk.)

TMPLee@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: ZipTalk init...
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:51:01 GMT

badbunny@gnh-starport.cts.com (Brendan Hoar) writes:

>So, if AppleTalk is disabled, ZipTalk STILL slows the machine to 1MHz
>everytime an interrupt is processed?  (If not, than I traced it to the wrong
>thing - I'll be more thorough about it tonight)

Bzzt!! Zip's "AppleTalk compatibility" dip switch does it on every interrupt.
ZipTalk only slows the machine down when AppleTalk packets are received, and
then uses a "Normal" slot (6 or 7) to slow the Zip down to 2.8 mhz for 50 ms.
The system 6.0 driver then additionally slows it down to 1 mhz for just the
actual network transaction. I have been testing a "ZipFix" init that is ZipTalk
minus the AppleTalk code, and it appears to work fine so I'll be posting it
soon.

>Now, it coulda been something else I did to the system, but in all my playing
>around with trying to get PT3 to work at 57600 from GS/OS I think the three
>things that were different this time are 6.0, CPS Follow: off and ZipTalk
>disabled.

GAAHH! CPS Follow must be on or System 6 appletalk and Disk ]['s will not work.

>(BTW, Todd - Really, I'm not mad - I use ZipTalk - its neat - and now that I
>(think) I understand how it works, I see how much cooler a hack it is.  :)

(snif) well at least _somebody_ appreciates it :)

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu
From: dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com (Doug Granzow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ANSITerm 1.1
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:32:15 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-iisysops]

bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon) writes:

>One of my buddies has AnsiTerm 1.0..... he was always telling me bout how
>good a prog it was... but fore I wanted to spend the bucks, I asked to
>borrow it to verify it would run on my sys.... IT WON'T!

I have a feeling that Paul doesn't keep up with this newsgroup. You might
want to try sending him email at paulp@pro-palmtree.cts.com. There is a demo
of ANSI Term floating around; you might want to try that and see if you have
problems with it too.


Doug Granzow           dig@pro-iisysops.cts.com  or  ...crash!pro-iisysops!dig
"The aging process could be delayed...if it had | Call: The 'II Sysops' BBS
 to make its way thru Congress" --George Bush   | +1 410 549 2584 USR DS v42b
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Help! GS <-> IBM connection
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:56:32 GMT
Distribution: na

Hi!

As you are doing 19,200, XON/XOFF might not be _that_ good an idea
altogether. I always use crossed RTS/CTS too for hardware handshaking,
plus the occasional DTR/DSR/DCD thingie if one of the sides absolutely
requires it. Has worked ok with IBM PCs, Amiga machines, my old
Siemens Sinix machine, and so on :)

Soenke
From: quest@edsi.plexus.COM (Scott Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Testing huge pointless fonts
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:37:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr09.183712.27504
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:

>If you want to play with really huge Pointless fonts, try Teach.  It seems
>to handle them much better than anything else I've seen.

>-- 
>fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
>[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]

The other thing I've noticed is that Pointless's time to "create" a new
font size is dramtically less than when running AWGS.  It is real cool.
It avoids lots of time to boot AWGS just to word process a personal
letter.  (and saves memory for other things too.)  Now if it could just
patch into AWGS's dictionary system...  :)

-- 
Scott Anderson         We the willing, leb by the unknowing have been
quest@edsi.plexus.com  doing the impossible for so long with so little
acct040@carroll1.cc.edu   that we can do anything with nothing.
From: x9999bns@oak.circa.ufl.edu (David Isaacson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:28:19 GMT
Reply-To: X9999BNS%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

In article <1992Apr6.145327.17736@cis.ohio-state.edu>, meekins@abalone.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes:
>In article <m94siB1w164w@bluemoon.rn.com> t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) writes:
>>
>>I -do- know that if I put in the Ramfast.Driver into System 6, it dies 
>>before it gets off the ground. So obvously, that went. As did the 
>>SCSI.Manager and etc - they aren't used, and System 6 DOES work as long as 
>>I'm within GSOS (no problems execept as mentioned before).
>>
>>
>
>Ummm...you removed the RamFast driver? You won't be able to use the RamFast
>without it, otherwise it will crash. Make sure the RamFast driver is installed.
>In fact, I had to copy the RamFast driver onto the install disk before I could
>boot /install and put 6.0 on my HD. You need the RamFast driver....Also,
>make sure you have a recent version of the RamFast driver..Do you have the
>Rom 2.01?
>
>TIM MEEKINS                    Ask me about GNO/ME! - MultiTasking on a IIGS!
>meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu     Procyon, Inc. 1005 N Kingshighway, Suite 309
>meekins@bluemoon.uucp          Cape Girardeau, MO 63701   (314) 334-7078
>                          
>      "Computers aren't intelligent, they just think they are."

Ummm...unless they changed things between the new RamFast and my revC with
older ROMs, you do NOT need the driver installed. The driver just let's you
take advantage of the cache on the card (I beleive it says this right in the
documentation). I booted without the driver to install the new system, then
just installed it to speed things up.


David Isaacson           VAX:  Fraenhawk@maple.circa.ufl.edu
                               X9999BNS@maple.circa.ufl.edu

                         Unix: fhawk@nerix.nerdc.ufl.edu
From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: need kermit printer patch
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:04:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: DOCKMAST.920413010440.440043
Organization: The Internet

Ted -- sorry to bother you, but could you easily come up with a patch
that make's kermit's "print screen" routine print with the high order
bit 0 instead of 1?  (I really would like to have my new printer set for
8-bit bytes, so graphics will come out OK, but kermit seems to insist on
the Apple negative-ASCII format for characters, which come out pretty
strange, if at all, unless I restrict the channel to 7 bits.)  I've
looked over the most recent source (APPMAI.M65) I could find, but I
can't seem to find where that particular command is handled.

 Ted Lee
 TMPLee@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: cjpeg/djpeg
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:21:58 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <m0lYvGd-0000TQC@crash.cts.com> badbunny@gnh-starport.cts.com (Brendan Hoar) writes:
>Oh yeah, remind me NOT to try to run ORCA shell scripts under GNO.

Don't run ORCA shell scripts under GNO.

>However, I can't seem to get some of the larger jpegs to convert well.  Or
>rather, I can't seem to get them to convert well in the background under GNO
>since I don't have patience enuff to wait under ORCA.  :)           

It's probably best to run a djpeg "batch" while you're asleep or somewhere
else.

>sit 1:
>Start up GNO 1.0 release.  Do a 'djpeg -G -m3m traci2.jpg traci2.gif&'.

This worries me already.  djpeg will suck up 3 MB just to hold the output
image.  Throw in GNO, GS/OS, INITs, DAs, RAM disk, the other program you're
running, etc, etc, and you probably ran out of memory (check the RAM disk
values in the Control Panel CDA to see how much memory is actually free).
Try it again with default options or maybe -m2m.

Interesting picture you got there.

>About 38 minutes into the processes I sit down at the keyboard and execute
>testit (the ORCA shell script).  Oops.  I get about 7 shell errors and the
>whole machine goes south.  Gotta reboot.

Something about "show time" gave me fits before.  Dunno.

>sit 2:
>Start up GNO 1.0 release.  Do a 'djpeg -G traci8.jpg traci8.gif&'.

Got the whole collection, huh? :-)

>This file is approximate 12k-20k (memory is not refreshed properly at work).

People keep saying not to use RAS before CAS brain cells.  Next lobotomy
make sure you get new ones.

>Then I run a nameless telcom program under GNO. And chat on IRC for about 30
>minutes or so.  Anyway after about 800second of runtime of djpeg (200+ of the 
>telcom program - both checked by the GNO Snooper CDA), I get neat garbage on
>every other column of my text screen.

That's kinda weird (to say the least).  I haven't the faintest.  Doubt it's
djpeg though.

>Results.  Two dubiously named gif files containing 0 bytes of information. 
>Enuff fun to entertain the live IRC crew.  Headaches for Andy (well, maybe I  
>should try it under ORCA for a while so he doesn't get TOO mad...)

Try it under Orca or maybe start it under GNO and let it be.  Since neither
program really finished processing I'm not surprised that the output was
blank; I don't think it does much writing until it's done.

BTW, I'm not really maintaining this thing.  A certain unnamed person may
or may not be considering translating certain portions of the program to
assembly, but I'm not involved in this other than porting it.  And I wouldn't
have done that if I thought it was going to take more than three or four hours.

>Brendan Gallagher Hoar -=- badbunny@gnh-starport.cts.com  (INET -> Apple //)

-- 
fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: Sounds and Sys 6
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 10:17:08 EDT

dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

> >btw, I think you forgot to take an rcomment out of Easymount B-).
> 
> The one that says 'by Dave "Mr Tangent" Lyons'?  It's there on purpose.
> 
> Actually, it used to say the following, but my boss wouldn't let me
> leave it in:
> 
>      "EasyMount is the best thing for the school
>       environment since safe sex."
>                               --Ron Lichty, 1991

Hmm, ok. There were two comment resources in it, though (snooping around 
with an editor); the second one gave a more sane appraisal like "Drag 
EasyMount into your blahblah" or something. I thought perhaps that was meant 
to show up from the finder, and the other was for snoopy individuals like, 
er, me.

> 
> -- 
> David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
> Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
> America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
> GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com
> 
> My opinions are my own, not Apple's.


Marc Sira               |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca  |  "Why are you always shaaaking yer eyeballs?"
CI$ 70253,2574          '
From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sounds and Sys 6
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:53:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <sJHoiB6w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira) writes:
>[...]
>I used to use the AlertSound CDev for my SysBeep (with 5.04), and one 
>unfortunate thing I've noticed about the 6.0 Sound CDev is that it shuts off 
>when I go (for instance) into the BASIC interpreter. Would it be dangerous 
>to leave it connected?

It actually isn't disconnected, but the portion of it that actually plays
a sound tries to allocate a page of bank 0 space (using the Memory Manager)
to start the Sound Tools with, and it can't (ProDOS 8 is already using all
of bank 0).

However, the Sound Control Panel is still translating the beep codes into
the names of the sounds to be played, and using SendRequest(srqPlayrSound-
Sample) to ask "whoever" to play them.

Typically, "whoever" turns out to be the Sound CP itself, but it's talking
to itself through a generic mechanism, so it *is* possible to write an
init that is clever enough to play the sound under difficult conditions
(probably synchronously, however--nothing else will happen while the sound
plays, unlike using Sound CP in the Finder).

>btw, I think you forgot to take an rcomment out of Easymount B-).

The one that says 'by Dave "Mr Tangent" Lyons'?  It's there on purpose.

Actually, it used to say the following, but my boss wouldn't let me
leave it in:

     "EasyMount is the best thing for the school
      environment since safe sex."
                              --Ron Lichty, 1991

-- 
David A. Lyons, Apple Computer, Inc.      |   DAL Systems
Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
From: jdeitch@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Contest
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:52:27 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

> The most durable thing I've got has been an Epson MX-80 printer.  It's
> been running steadily for 10 years and has gone through tons of paper
> and ribbons, and it's never malfunctioned once!  And it still produces
> better print than some of the new dot matrixes like the ProWriter.

The old MX-80s and Apple Imagewriter Is are by far the most durable things
I've ever seen.  I actually put nearly twice the rated number of characters
on my first print head before it died.  After replacing the print head, it's
been running strong ever since.  

The only other thing I know of that lasts like this are old II+ and //e cpus.

And people complain that us II folks don't know what we're missing with their
high powered machines  !  Yep.  We know -- $1500 repair bills !!  :-)

- Jonathan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Ack! Fonts screwed! (WasRe: System 6.0 first impr. . .)
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:13:08 GMT

In article <61i7iB1w165w@halcyon.com> wrd@halcyon.com (william dickson) writes:
>Also, though Pointless and GS/OS seemed to know what the TT fonts were 
>when I transferred *from* the Mac using the HFS FST, the Mac was unable 
>to duplicate the feat when I transferred fonts to it from my GS.  It 
>seemed to think they were all "documents."

Yes! I have had a similar problem! I have been downloading files from
"earth" to CSD4, mcverting them, sending them to my GS (ProDOS partition,
as P8 and ProTERM wont talk to HFS), and then taking them to the Macs
at school. I get a filetype of "p[]__" and a creator of "pdos". The 
Compactor Pro files sent direct to the Mac are "APPL" and "EXTR". This
is causing a problem, as the Mac will say the file is damaged. Argh.
I take it there is no .cpt extractor? (We talked about this and the guy
wouldn't release his compression scheme?) I have the same problem with
.sit files (deluxe), and since I can't put the modem on the Mac, that's
out too. Will there be a DSIT converter, or has someone figgured out
how to yank the .cpt files yet?


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: System 6.0
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:44:14 GMT

In article <65411@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

[Quotes re DWGS screen not appearing...]
>
>You might try changing the application's auxiliary type to $DB02 if it
>isn't already $DB0x.  This tells the system that the app will use the
>Super Hi-Res screen, so the system doesn't try turning it off.

Nope it doesn't work. Odd. What if it were in 3200 colour format?

[ ]

Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: wsheffield@pro-ace.cts.com (Wayne Sheffield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: What do I need?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:17:02 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-ace]

In <rdippold.702596176@cancun>
rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

>Hokay, my IIgs has been languishing in a closet for over a year.  When
>I packed it up I'd just gotten system 5.03.  I've got 1.5Meg of RAM

System 5.0.3 had a nasty bug, and was closely followed by 5.0.4.  Upgrade NOW!


>and two 3 1/2" floppies.  Now I've moved, have room for it again, and
>it's sitting right next to the other computer, playing with itself
>right now (literally, DiversiTune).
>
>Now it looks like I've come back just in time to upgrade to ProTerm
>3.0, System 6, and pro-line 2.0.
>
Although the ProLine upgrade isn't available yet, the others are - and,
IMHO,strongly recommended.
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From: vokey@hg.uleth.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GS-Shrinkit v1.0.5
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:52:55 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Great!  I'd love GS-Shrinkit v1.0.5.  But I can't find anything called
"comp.binaries.apple2" at ftp.apple.com.  What's the path?  Or is it at
some other ftp site?
vokey@hg.uleth.ca
From: umpistun@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Pistun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RamDISK Problems...
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:32:17 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada


     A friend of mine has been having problems with his Ramdisk.

     With versions 5.0.4 and System 6.0, he gets read/write errors on his
Ramdisk, no matter what size he makes the RAM disk.  And when using the
System 6.0 verify function, it marks the last 32kbytes as bad.

     Someone else I know has been having the same problems.  Both people
have AE GSRam with 1.25Megs of memory on card.


--
Brent E. Pistun                             University of Manitoba
umpistun@CCU.UManitoba.CA                     Computer Engineering
From: drees@plains.NoDak.edu (Steve Drees)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: AE PC Transporter as RAMDISK
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:41:49 GMT
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo


I was wondering if anyone has taken on the task of converting the AE PC
Transporter Ramdisk driver (Which patches Prodos :-( ) into an init useable
with System 6.0

Thanks,
Steve
-- 
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drees@plains.Nodak.Edu | expect from me. Could the wrong one, could
701-772-0222           | it be you? Is God _not_ what you assume???