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From: spiff@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Jason Leigh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.vietnamese,soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.filipino,soc.culture.mexican,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Call for Very short folk tales
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:37:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: bert.1992Apr17.153734.9408
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago


Hi, as you can see I have cross posted this message on all soc.culture
groups.

I am looking for very short folk tales in any language and origin to animate
for SIGGRAPH 93.  The emphasis is on VERY short folk tales with good imagery
and perhaps a somewhat surreal quality.  If you can think of one off the
top of your head please email me a message with a brief description of
the following:

Title:
Language:
Very brief story outline:
Would you be willing to give me assistance on making translations:

In the animation I will most likely have the narration be in the native
language the story originates (and perhaps with subtitles) or have
a native of the country narrate.

Thanks.

Jason Leigh
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From: bilgic@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Murat Bilgic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Hamallar (Nokta'dan bir makale)
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:13:01 GMT
Reply-To: bilgic@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Murat Bilgic)
Organization: Universite de Montreal


Reha Muhtar arada iyi yazilar yazsa da bana kalirsa bu kez ilginc olma
kaygisiyla ipin ucunu birazcik kacirmis.

En basta Turkiye'de yalnizca 1 milyon "vasifli" insan bulundugu onermesi bugune
dek duydugum en dayanaksiz onermelerden biri. Hangi arastirma, hangi anket
boylesi bir onermeye destek olarak verilebilir? Turkiye'de belgelere gecen
aktif nufusun toplam nufusa gore oraninin fazla yuksek olmadigi dogru. Ancak
tarlasinda calisan, babasinin atolyesinde sigorta primi vermeden is tutan 
buyuk bir kitle oldugu da dogru. Eger amac calisip, carik, curuk mal ya da
servis ureten bireyleri suclamaksa boylesi bir genellemenin bu ise yaradigini 
da sanmiyorum. Dogru ortalik kapkacci dolu. Ama >50 milyon insani boylesine
suclamak buyuk bir haksizlik, biraz da utanmazlik.

Bir de yazida alabildigine seckinci bir hava var. Ne yani Turkiye'de herseyi
okuyup, yazan, yurtdisinda egitim gorup doktor, muhendis, mimar olan insanlar 
mi uretiyor? Bu ulkenin hic koylusu, iscisi yok mu birseyler ureten? Elbette
var, ve de onlar olmazsa biz muhendisler, bilgisayar programcilari, doktorlar,
ve de bilumum "meslek sahipleri" sap gibi acikda kaliriz. Sanirim yazinin amaci
biraz da kendi kendini onaylamak. Ne de olsa sozu gecen mesleklerden biri de
gazetecilik. Ve de uzulerek kabul etmek gerekli ki gazetecilik bizim ulkede
daha cok Reha Muhtar'in "kapkacci" diye tanimladigi turden calisanlarin
cogunlukda oldugu iskollarindan birisi. Soylemeden edemedim! (=

Murat Bilgic
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From: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Hasan Cam'in FORWARD ettigi sey.....
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:50:23 GMT
Reply-To: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway

In article <1992Apr13.042636.16807@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>,
senel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Hakan Senel) writes:

	[ .... ]


Ozur dilerim sildigim metin icin

> Arkadaslar,
>   Duzenledigimiz guzellik yarismasina ilgi gitgide artiyor. Son
sayimlara
> gore Hasan bey kardesimiz, FORWARDediverme, DogrucuAhmet, BilmemNE ve
> Kibariyet guzellikleri alanlarinda onde gidiyor. Eger kazanirsa,
kendisine 
> Ayhan Songar Bey'in yazilarindan secilerek derlenmis, FORWARD edilmeye
hazir, 
> daha once FORWARD edilmemis email'lar gonderilecek. Diger yandan,
> Acur guzeli secildi. Lutfu Ikiz kardesimiz bir kasa Acur kazandi.
> 
>
************************************************************************
*******
> Lutfu,
>   Bir kasa acur kazandiniz. Adresinizi lutfen, soc.culture.Acur netine
> gonderiniz. Kendinize iyi bakiniz. Siz de ayaginizi sicak, basinizi 
> SERIN tutunuz. Tebrik ederiz. 
>
************************************************************************
*******
> Hakan Kulunuz

Hasan ve Hakan lutfen!

Ben sadece 'flame' den kacinmamizi tavsiye ediyorum. Ozellikle
ne zaman genel tartismalar ozel saldiri haline donusuyorsa.
Ozur dilerim akil vermeye calistigim icin. Bende bu tur hatalar ettim,
ve istemeyerek kalp kirmaya sebep oldum. Bu tur yazismalarda jest/mimik
gostermek kolay olmadigi icin yanlis anlamada oluyor. Ve sahsilesiyor
isler.

Yanlis anlamayin net-polisligi de yapmiyorum, herkes istedigini
yapabilir.
Sadece, bu tur tartismalarda tatli olmayan sahsi tartismalara donusme
eyilimi olasidir, demek istedim.

Selam getirmisem
Suleyman Kondakci
From: vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Vedat  Dogan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Dunya'da Turkiye -otomobil- (Rakamlarla Turkiye)
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:52:37 GMT
Organization: Columbia University


 
devam-Dunya'da Turkiye
 
Otomobil sayisi ve uretimi:
 
 
Otomobil  yil  1950   1955   1960   1965    1970    1975    1980   1985   1990
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Dunya   52.2   73.1   98.7  139.7   194.1   258.2   316.4  373.5  450.0
Sayisi(milyon)
       Turkiye 0.02   0.04   0.07    0.1    0.16     0.4     0.7    1.0    2.0
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Dunya   8.17  10.95  12.81  19.10   22.64   25.43   29.02  31.39  35.00
Uretimi(milyon)
       Turkiye    -     -      -      -     0.01    0.04   0.045   0.08   0.15
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
* Dunya'da 1950 yilinda 52.2 milyon otomobil varken bizde 20,000 adet var idi.
  Yani toplam parkin ancak % 0.038'ne sahiptik.
 
* 1990 yilinda ise Dunyada 450 milyon otomobil variken bu sayi bizde 2 milyona 
  ulasmistir. Yani bizim payimiz % 0.44 cikmistir.Yani 12 defa artmistir. Fakat
  hala dunyada her oniki kisiye bir otomobil duserken bizde 28 kisiye bir
  otomobil dusmektedir.
 
* Bizde otomobil uretimi 1960'li yillarin sonunda baslamis ve 1970 yilinda
  uretim 10,000 adet olmustur. 1970 yilinda dunya'da ki uretim ise 22.64
  milyon idi..
 
* 1975 yilinda, ulkemizde ki uretim Dunya'da ki uretimin % 0.15 temsil ederken
  1990 yilinda dunyadaki payimiz %0.42 olmustur.  
 
* 1975 yilinda kisi basina yilda dusen otomobil uretimi 0.0062 otomobil iken 
  Turkiye'de bu sayi 0.0010 otomobil idi.
 
* 1990 yilinda, kisi basina dusen yillik otomobil uretimi dunya'da 0.0067 
  otomobil iken turkiye'de 0.0026 otomobil olmustur..
 
----------
Not: daha once -otomobil- ile ilgili yazmis oldugum yazida belirtigim gibi
     Turkiye'de otomobile olan talep hizla artmaktadir..Buna parelel olarakta
     Toyota, Peugeot,Nissan herbiri 100,000 oto/yil nihayi kapasiteli uretim 
     tesisleri kuracaklardir. Ayrica su andaki mevcut Tofas ve Renault ise
     kapasite artirimi icin ek yatirimlar yapmaktadirlar.Otomobil icin gumruk
     duvarlarinin indirilmesi oto ithalatini artirmistir..Yapilan tahminlere 
     gore Turkiye'de otomobil talebinin 2000 yilina kadar 600,000 ile 1 Milyon
     arasinda degisecegi sanilmaktadir.
     Boylece 2000'li yillara dogru otomobil uretimde/kullaniminda dunya 
     ortalamsini gecebilecegiz..
     (Peugeot firmasi uretim yerini Izmir'den Zonguldaga degistirmistir.)   
 
 
Saygilarimla,
ismet
 
                   Kuvvet birdir ve o milletindir.
                                     Mustafa Kemal,1937
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From: yasgur@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gurbuz Yasar)
Subject: Re: News
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:02:14 GMT

Turkiye-Danimarka maci hakkinda daha genis bilgisi olan varmi?
Soylenenlere gore Turkiye'nin iki goluda nizami degilmis.
Baska bir tahmin de sonucun mactan once kararlastirildigi ve macin
bir nevi Piontek'i kurtarma operasyonu oldugu.

 Bu konularda fikri olanlar varsa lutfen nete yazsinlar.


   Yasar Gurbuz.

Q
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From: hbm@ddsw1.UUCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: ...Town No Longer Existed, Except As A Pile Of Ruins, 'Gav*.'
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:44:00 GMT



<22040622042027@WISCMACC.BitNet>
UCNICK@UMUC.BitNet (Nick Gavrielatos)

>Reporting from mutlupolis,
>/* You are a liar mutlu-malak, you are one big allah-damn liar      */

If you prefer to imagine that 'Appressian' was trying to mislead his
readers, be my guest, 'Gav*0.'

Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill
Company, Indianapolis (1928). (305 pages). 

p. 133 (first paragraph)

"In this movement we took with us three thousand Turkish soldiers who
 had been captured by the Russians and left on our hands when the Russians
 abandoned the struggle. During our retreat to Karaklis two thousand of
 these poor devils were cruelly put to death. I was sickened by the
 brutality displayed, but could not make any effective protest. Some,
 mercifully, were shot. Many of them were burned to death. The method
 employed was to put a quantity of straw into a hut, and then after
 crowding the hut with Turks, set fire to the straw."

p. 19 (first paragraph)

"The Tartar section of the town no longer existed, except as a pile of
 ruins. It had been destroyed and its inhabitants slaughtered. The same fate
 befell the Tartar section of Khankandi."

              (to be continued...)

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: ahmet@eecg.toronto.edu (Ahmet Parlakbilek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Crime Rates in Some Countries
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:12:58 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto

Crime Rates (out of million) in 1988:

U.S.A.        89
Venezuella    77
Finland       28
Bulgaria      26
Canada        19
Italy         19
Poland        18
Sweden        12
Greece        11
Germany       11
France        10
Holland        9
Japan          8
Turkiye        3
(the other countries were not listed in the table.)

Nokta 29 Mart 1992, Source: NYU, Prof. David Greenberg

It is interesting to see the 100% literate Finland having almost 10 times
higher crime rate than Turkiye. What do you think, Jarmo?

Regards,
Ahmet Parlakbilek 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: MUTLU@Zeus.unomaha.edu ()
Subject: Maclardan ne haber?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:38:11 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

Selam,

bu haftanin maclarindan haberdar olan arkadaslara sesleniyorum, mumkunse
sonuclari news'e gecebilirmisiniz.
Simdiden tesekkurler.


Saygilarla
Mutlu
From: sakurmus@husc10.harvard.edu (Sinan Kurmus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Turkiye hakkindaki kitaba katkida bulunun!
Summary: Turkiye hakkinda turistik biritap icin yardim gerekli.
Keywords: Yardim, Bilgi, Turizm, Help.
Date: 17 Apr 92 06:27:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.sakurmus.703492055


 Merhaba,
	Yardimlariniza ihtiyacim var! Bu yaz bir Amerikan "travelling
guide"i--bunun Turkcesi nedir bilen var mi?--icin calisacagim. Isim
bir bucuk ay boyunca Turkiye'yi dolasip gorduklerimi yazmak.
Benimle ayni isi yapacak bir baska arkadas daha var. Ben Ege,
Akdeniz ve Kuzey Kibris'i yaparken, o   Ic , Dogu ve Guneydogu
Anadolu ile Karadeniz'i yapacak.
	Cikacak kitap daha cok kisitli bir butceyle yolculuk eden
genclere yonelik. Yani pahali oteller, lokantalar, tatil koyleri bizi
ilgilendirmiyor. Genelde ucuz, temiz ve ilginc yerler ariyoruz. Ucuz
demekle geceligi $10'in altindaki otel kamping ve motelleri, makul
fiyatli lokantalari($5 civarinda) kastediyorum. Ama en cok
ilgilendigimiz sey az bilinen guzel yerler. Ornegin issiz bir plaj, nefis
imambayildi yapan kucuk bir lokanta, misafiperver bir koy, eylenceli
bir kahve, cay bahcesi, hatta sadece sevimli ve yardimsever bir
dukkan ,lokanta ya da motel sahibi.
	Assagida arkadasimin ve benim gezmeyi palnladigimiz
yerlerin bir listesi ilisikte. Eger bu yerlerde--veya yakinlarinda--
bildiginiz ilginc yerler (tarihi kalintilar, dogal guzellikler, ucuz ve temiz
otel, motel, kamping ve lokantalar),  yoresel yemekler, ilginc kisiler,
ya da ilginc hikayeler(efsaneler, anilar, uyarilar) varsa lutfen bana
gonderin (email, posta ya da telefonla). Bu kitabi ne kadar iyi, dogru
ve ilginc yazabilirsek, Turkiye'yi o kadar iyi tanitmis olacagiz. Yardim
edin, bu isi hep beraber yapalim. Simdiden cok tesekkurler.
	
	Gidecegimiz tarihler: 1 Haziran---15 Temmuz.

	Gidecegimiz yerlerin listesi:

---Marmara Bolgesi: Edirne, Istanbul, Bursa, Iznik,
Canakkale(Truva), Gelibolu.

---Ege Bolgesi: Bergama, Akcay ve civari, Izmir, Cesme, Kusadasi,
Selcuk(Efes), Didim(Milet), Pamukkale (Aphrodisias), Bodrum ve
cevre koylar.

---Akdeniz Bolgesi: Marmaris, Datca, Dalyan(Kaunos),
Fethiye(Oludeniz), Kalkan(Xanthos), Patara, Kas, Demre(Myra),
Kemer, Antalya, Side, Alanya, Anamur, Silifke, Tasucu, Mersin,
Antakya.

---Guneydogu Anadolu Bolgesi: Urfa, Nemrut Dagi, Diyarbakir,
Mardin.

---Dogu Anadolu Bolgesi: Tatvan, Van, Akdamar, Dogubeyazit,
Kars, Erzurum, Tortum ve Coruh Vadileri.

---Karadeniz Bolgesi: Trabzon, Amasya, Sinop.

---Ic Anadolu Bolgesi: Ankara, Konya, Aksaray, Nevsehir,
Kaymakli, Derinkuyu, Goreme, Urgup, Corum.

---Kuzey Kibris.

Tekrar Tesekkurler.

20 Mayis'a kadar,
Sinan Kurmus, Straus A32, Harvard College, Cambridge MA
02138-6514. (617) 493 3778. + email:
sakurmus@husc.harvard.edu
25 Mayis 5 Haziran arasi,
Tunaman Sok. 10/20 Fenerbahce 81030 Istanbul. (1) 3695537

................Sinan Kurmus............sakurmus@husc.harvard.edu........
Xref: sparky soc.culture.turkish:4107 soc.culture.greek:3246
From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Propminister Multu
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:04:22 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


The caped crusader Mutlu defecates:

>Not at all. Besides, eleven years of Turkish education are equivalent
>to 22.3 years of American education. Those who had their schooling in
>Turkiye are well familiar with this discrepancy. Compared to the
>take-it-easy atmosphere of an average high school in the U.S. where
>the emphasis is more on 'social control' [e.g., preventing teenage
>pregnancies or drug use] than on education per se, their Turkish
>counterparts look like bootcamps where approximately twelve or
>thirteen heavy-duty subjects varying from 'World History' to
>'Algebra' [and in some pilot schools, even 'Calculus'] are
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>hammered in eight hours a day, for nine months a year. For
>those who survive the Turkish high school education, American 
>(or European for that matter) system is a song and a breeze.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



      This is manifestly one of the oddest postings ever to
      emanate from this sick terrorist.  Ooooo, baby!
      So SOME PILOT schools in Turkey actually teach calculus.
      Mighty impressive, Propminister Mutlu!  And you still
      think that European schools are a breeze compared to
      those of Turkey?!  This IS worth a good laugh!


-- Edward Wiener
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.greek,soc.rights.human
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 17:03:57 CDT
From: <U22822@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject:    ELECTRICAL ENGINEER IN TURKEY

I HAVE NOT BEEN TO TURKEY FOR SOME TIME. COULD ANY ONE TELL ME ABOUT
THE JOB SITUATION FOR ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS ESPECIALLY FOR ONES WISHING
TO WORK IN THE FIELD OF MICROELECTRONICS IN TURKEY? WHICH CITY IS THE
BEST FOR JOB HUNTING?

PLEASE E-MAIL ME  (U22822@UICVM.UIC.EDU OR U22822@UICVM)

THANKS
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Are 'Kebab' And 'History' An Integral Part Of The...,'Joni?'
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:25:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ddsw1.m0lbWTE-0003YPC


<1992Apr15.191433.1390@mits.mdata.fi>
jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)

>I already stopped going to kebab restaurants owned by Turkish people.
>Shame. I loved those kebabs. But that Mutlu is just such a pissant that
>it gives me great weird pleasure to discriminate any Turkish while he's
>not around.

You seem to imply that 'kebab' and 'history' are an integral part of
the pro-Turkish mental framework. Is it really your intent to make
such a statement, 'Joni?' Perhaps your overly sensitized nose is now
able to distinguish the sweet redolence of the bouquet of spices that
are waiting. Your 'iki bucuk yogurtlu' is totally complete now.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: The Main Victims Of PKK's Attacks Are Fellow Kurds, 'Milanini.'
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:26:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ddsw1.m0lbWTg-0003YPC



<1992Apr14.023318.29759@microsoft.com>
marcmil@microsoft.com (Marc MILANINI)

>Even if only people carrying weapons, or even PKK terrorists,
>were dead in those bombings (which I doubt), it would still
>be shameful for the Turkish government. I think it was once again
>a "kill first, trial after".

You blew it again. The main victims of PKK's attacks are fellow
Kurds in southeastern Turkiye. The PKK is receiving important
logistical and material support from Iraq and Syria. Such 
assistance includes rockets, artillery and other weapons more
suited to full-scale combat than terrorist operations, 'Milanini.'
The people of Turkiye will deal firmly with this terrorist Marxist
gang.

>Who else calls those people "terrorists" but the Turkish governement ?

The cold-blooded murder of 3000+ defenseless Turkish women and children
will not go unpunished.

>The fact that they disagree with the Turkish policy, and try to impose
>by force something that has been denied to them so far does not make
>them terrorists.

What are you mumbling, 'Milanini?' The PKK was created by the KGB.

>Because someone else does something does not make this something right.
>I think that a democratic government would trial someone before
>putting them to death. I you think otherwise, you should read more
>about human rights.

Obviously you know very little about the extermination of 3000+ innocent
people by the PKK. Again, no ethnic or religious group was given minority 
status in Lausanne Agreement except non-Muslims in Turkiye and Muslims 
in Greece, given the status on the basis of reciprocity. Also recognized 
were special rights which could be described as privileges. That was how 
the Greek and Jewish communities gained a 'minority' status. It seems that 
you have not had time to study the Lausanne Agreement. Read the Lausanne 
Agreement and the Turkish Constitution before you drivel. 

>I am sure that they are very thankful for your nice words.

What is your problem now?

>"Show me a man who thinks he knows, and I shall show you a fool"

Don't worry about occasional failures.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
From: ayoz@tut.fi (Ayoz Suat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Dunya'da Turkiye -otomobil- (Rakamlarla Turkiye)
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:45:44 GMT
Organization: Finnish University and Research Network FUNET


In article <1992Apr12.025237.10526@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Vedat  Dogan) writes:
|> 
 Details skipped

|>      Boylece 2000'li yillara dogru otomobil uretimde/kullaniminda dunya 
|>      ortalamsini gecebilecegiz..

 Ve yetersiz yollarimizla, korkunc trafigimizle, bilincsiz suruculerimizle
 trafik kazalarindaki dunya birinciligimizi pekistirirken, cevre kirlenme-
 sinde de ilk siralarda iddiali hale gelebilecegiz. Toplu tasimaciligi hep-
 ten unutup, herkesi borc-harc araba sahibi yapmaya tesvik edecegiz. Sonra
 da "Cag atladik" turkuleri soyleyenlerin pesine takilacagiz, bir bakmisiz
 ki onlardan biri olmusuz.     
|>  
|>  
|> Saygilarimla,
|> ismet
|>  
|>            
 Benden de saygilar,
 Suat Ayoz
From: camh@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Hasan Cam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Hasan Cam'in makalesi
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:35:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr12.033536.28849
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr11.185128.18508@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>, senel@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Hakan Senel) writes:
> 
> Hasan Cam,
>   Bu guzel, dokunakli makalen icin ne kadar tesekkur etsek azdir.
> Sagol varol, ellerin dert gormesin, iki cihanda da ellerin nur icinde
> olsun. Burada dehset ve kizginliktan hop oturup hop kalkiyoruz. Ne kadar dehset
> icinde oldugumuzu anlatamam. Gonul ister ki, bu makaleyi ingilizceye cevirip, 
> diger netlere de (ornegin soc.culture.stupid, soc.culture.nerd, 
> soc.culture.neAyipYaaaaOlmazBuKadar) gonderesin, oldu mu yavlucugum ?
> 
> >....................Bari tarihten ibret alin beyler... Ve, ne olur, kizlar
> >inizin kollarini tutun, kendilerini anlatinki, " Karpuz guzeli, Domates
> >guzeli, bilmemne guzeli" secilmek oyle pekte ovulenecek seyler degildir.
> >Ne zaman uyanacagiz, ne vakit aklimiz basimiza gelecek, bilmemki?..
> 
> > Hasan Cam
  ^^^^^^^^^^^

TSAA'de yayinlanan makaleyi soc.culture.turkish'e forward
ettim ve forward ettigim yazinin hic bir yerine kendi ismimi yazmadim.
Yukaridaki sozleri soyleyen Ayhan Songar Bey oldugu halde,
sanki ben ismimi bu makalenin sonuna koymusum
gibi yukaridaki yazinin sonuna benim ismimi ilave etmeniz
yalan soylemek degilse nedir?

SCT'ye TSAA'den aktardigim Ayhan Songar Beyin Turkiye gazetesinde
cikan yazisi hakkinda kendi goruslerinizi belirtmek her
net okuyucusu gibi sizin de gayet dogal bir hakkinizdir. Ancak,
benim yapmadigim bir seyi bana mal etmeye calismaniz sizin 
KALITENIZI gosterir.  Kalitenizi ogrenmek istiyorsaniz, sct'de 
bir anket duzenleyebilirsiniz.


> Vallahi biz de bilmiyoruz, Hasan. Eger biliyorsan, olumu op soyle, merak
> icindeyiz.
> 
>    Bir kac arkadasla konustum, soc.culture.turkish cercevesinde erkek
> guzeli yarismalari acmaya karar aldik. (eeeeee, madem kadin guzeli yarismasi 
> acmak ayip) Karpuz, Kayisi, Acur, KluKluxKlan, BilmemNE guzelleri secilecektir.
> Simdiden, bir kac aday belli oldu. Hasan, yavrum, sen de adaylar icindesin. 
>  
>    BilmemNE guzeli     Hasan Cam
>    Acur     guzeli     Lutfu Ikiz kardesimiz
>    
> Adaylarinizi ve acilmasini isteginiz guzellik yarismasini lutfen net'e
> yaziniz. Kazananlara, icinde Ayhan Songar hocanin YAZILARI olan, muhtelif 
> takvim ve imsakiyeler verilecektir. 
> 
> Saygilar
> ------------------------
> Hakan Senel


Once, siz yalan soylemeyi birakiniz ve terbiyeli bir tavir
takininiz.

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