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From: "glenn devlin" <glenn.devlin@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: raiders of the lost a
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:51:09 EST
Reply-To: "glenn devlin" <glenn.devlin@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

JA>Regarding Temple of Doom:

JA>  I felt that it was the worst of the series, but ALSO, I felt it was the
JA>most true to the style of the serials of the 40's.
 
 It was the WORST.

  Spielberg once said that was his intent, to "recreate" the feel and adventure of those serials, right
JA>down to the "sexist" portrayal of women and completely innaccurate
JA>representation of the "orient" of the 30's.  And dig those bad guys!  They're
JA>not just BAD, they reach right into your chest and pull your heart out! They
JA>whip children!  Man, Stevie couldn't have done BETTER to make us HATE them.
JA>Just like those old serials, right?

 Steven Spielberg was depressed that time upon making the Temple of
Doom and he was 'exploring' religion and was fascinated with 'cults' 
At that time, I think he was going through marriage problems so he vented
out his frustrations and anger via the temple of doom - it was a personal
touch from his imagination. After what he did, he vowed never to make 
another temple of doom.

JA>  The third one was very good.  My theory as to why the first and third are
JA>so great is what I like to call "The Castle Wolfenstein Effect." It's an
JA>inside joke to old Apple computer users, but basically, it amounts to the
JA>idea that the Nazi's were the most hated group from that era.  It's the Nazi
JA>element which makes those films work because they are the perfect villians
JA>to faciliate political intrigue and antagonism to the heroic Indiana Jones
JA>(Mr. America).  I'm reminded of Captain America, (yes the comic), who became
JA>popular as an American Nazi slayer in World War II (well, about World War II,
JA>not acutally DURING).  When he stopped fighting Nazis (he was frozen in ice
JA>or something and brought back to life in modern times), the popularity of
JA>his character seemed to dwindle off.  See?

 Interesting theory. When Spielberg announced plans for the third 
and finall (?) installment of Indiana Jones, he was determinded to find a
'happy' action packed script that was a far cry from the temple of doom.
He read scripts and reacted with horror to several of them - some he DIDN'T
finish reading them then he asked Jeffrey Boam to come up with something.
Boam came up with the father/son concept and Spielberg pounced on it. The
result was the Last Crusade which had a cheesy beginnning with River
Phoniex who wasn't that convicing, but the latter of the film was terrifc
and immensley enjoyable.
 In the Temple of Doom, I was awestruck by the "anger" seeming to
come from the film. Anger entisfy's from the chase in the tunnels broken
by moments of humor...
 
 Cheers, Glenn
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From: rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Near Dark *spoiler* (was re: Fright Night, was re: Dracula)
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:30:52 GMT
Organization: Tigana Restoration Inc.
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In article <16+n+cn@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>
>>> Near Dark was directed by Kathryn Bigelow, James Cameron's wife now. 
>>
>> BZZZT. Keep up Mike. Cameron and Bigelow have been splitsville for a
>> while now. 
>
>Since when?  Cameron only divorced Gale Anne Hurd to take up with
>Bigelow a couple of years ago.

	Well, Bigelow have since file divorce from Cameron.

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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is Arnie doing ??
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:40:38 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany

pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:

>Arnold Schwarzenegger(boy I guess that name suits him;
>Schwarzenegger is a 'suitable' name for this 'type')

Why? Is it simply onomatopoeic, or does it mean something in English?
(Or Danish?)
(Like "Schwartz" and "Egg", what do I know?)

What do you think of "Schreglmann"? Should I do bodybuilding? :-)


May the Cool Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
From: bs26+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin Rudd Schoenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Ezster Balint Filmfest of the Mind
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:21:30 GMT
Organization: Senior, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Eszter Balint was incredible in "Stranger Than Paradise".  I would love
to see anything else she's been in, but I haven't found anything yet.

I do, however, have a photocopied version of the press kit for "Stranger
Than Paradise" (one of the great things about being a campus film
programmer).  Here's what it says: (Note that it spells Eszter with the
"s" first)

Eszter Balint (Eva)

1965     Born: Budapest, Hungary

THEATER
1972-76  Various SQUAT THEATRE Productions, Budapest
1976-77  Various SQUAT THEATRE Productions, Paris
1977     "Pig, Child, Fire!", SQUAT THEATRE, Rotterdam
1978     "Andy Warhol's Last Love", SQUAT THEATRE, New York City
1981-83  "Mr. Dead & Mrs. Free", SQUAT THEATRE, New York City

FILM
1978     "Andy Warhol's Last Love" (the film)
1981     "Mr. Dead & Mrs. Free" (the film) 
1981     A film by Zoe Beloff
1984     "Stranger Than Paradise", by Jim Jarmusch


Of course, it lists only up to 1984, after which we have "Bail Jumper",
"Shadows and Fog", and ?"The Linguini Incident", as posted by
rice@dg-rtp.dg.com.  If anyone knows anything about any of the first
three films up there, please step forward!
-Ben
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From: leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Mark R. Leeper)
Subject: Re: Ted Turner et al
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 12:29:56 GMT

Let me add a few words to Jerry's defense of Ted Turner.

As soon as you broadcast a black and white film to a television set
you have lost the original tones.  In fact as soon as the celluloid
on which a film is printed starts to age you lose the original grays.
Then when you transmit that film to a TV whose settings may be
approximately correct but are never exactly correct, you have lost the
original directors tones.  You really don't lose a lot more by turrning
off the color on a colorized film.

Admittedly, this is not a totally unbiased opinion.  I already feel some
gratitude to Turner for having dredged up and broadcast many of the
early sound and pre-sound films that I had pretty much given up any hope
of ever seeing like the Barrymore MYSTERIOUS ISLAND and Lon Chaney's
only sound film THE UHHOLY THREE.  Then there is the silent BEN HUR.

I doubt that these films can be real money-makers for Turner, but if you
are interested in film history they are real finds.  My impression of
Turner is that whatever else he is, he is a real film enthusiast.  I
appreciate what he has made available to me.

				Mark Leeper
				...att!mtgzfs3!leeper
				(908)957-5619
From: grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:32:58 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Aug8.165414.12652@phillip.edu.au> t9014201@phillip.edu.au writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.231003.4704@cs.brown.edu>, ST402420@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>>>7.  _Zulu_ - Michael Caine's first, one of his best.
>-- 
>
>I considered adding this one to the Best Musical List that was here recently.
>African Chants vs Welsh Choirs.....
>An amazing movie just to listen to.

I agree fully about Zulu.

Does anyone remember the later film entitled "Zulu Dawn" which
depicted the events which occurred to other British units the'
day before.

Zulu Dawn was one of the first politically correct movies. It was
absolutely dull nad tedious but very correct.






.

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From: black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black)
Subject: Death Becomes Her *SPOILERS*
Organization: Center for Communications, MCNC; RTP, NC
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:20:19 GMT

I finally saw "DBH" last weekend. I enjoyed the black humor in it so I
found this grade B flick enjoyable.

Question: Does anyone have any idea how they did the special effects
on Meryl Streep's head? Those scenes where her head was on backwards
were great! Likewise for the hole right through Goldie Hawn's stomach!!

Thanks for any help!


Rob Black                    black@concert.net                Raleigh, NC


Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: stedee@auto-trol.com (Steve Deemer)
Subject: Re: best war movies
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:25:06 GMT

In article <2282@shuksan.boeing.com> major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt) writes:
>: My all-time favorite war movies:
>
-list of decent movies deleted-

I've always liked "Battleground" with James Whitmore and Van Johnson.
The last scene in particular.

"Hey, Kenny.  What ever happened to Jody?"

Steve Deemer
stedee@auto-trol.com


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From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Subject: Re: Wayne's World Music Change
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:57:48 GMT

While reading article <n2!n78+@lynx.unm.edu>, I noticed that
lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) said the following:
 >In the case of _Wayne's World_ and "Stairway", I doubt the producers even
 >imagined that they'd *need* to arrange for permission to use four stinking
 >musical notes.

It's probably something along the lines of they thought by using only four
notes they were probably OK in the same way that some songs that sample others
get away with it without getting permission, but by explicitly pointing out
that it was indeed Stairway via the sign (etc. etc.)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:09:00 GMT

In <jon.713292274@lindy.Stanford.EDU> jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:

>   Howard Hawks' Sergeant York, while corny in parts, is an excellent
>film and has I think some of the best war scenes ever put on the
>screen.

Look a my sig!  Oh, yeah - this is one of the all time classics - I'm
all a-tingle waitin' for the LD release! 
m
>and absurd -- in other words, like real violence instead of movie
>violence. 

Yep - this kind of directing was one of the things I liked about _Unforgiven_

so long net.land! 
-- 
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	Don't bother flaming or writing, I just quit my job and will only
be here for another day or two.  Sure - what the hell - I speak for the
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From: joachim@betelgeusian.ee.up.ac.za (Louis Joubert)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:15:08
Organization: University of Pretoria, South Africa

... and what about "The Beast of War" ?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Summary: Strange movie
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:43:26 GMT

In article <schuck.713722388@sfu.ca>, schuck@beaufort.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:
> 
> How about Castle Keep, a strange war movie about a squad of soldiers
> defending a castle.
> 
> Burt Lancaster, Peter Falk.
> 
> 

Strange movie - weird dialogue - strange little bits - very
surrealistic.  But what makes it so strange is that once it
gets going and the combat is on - it was so much more powerful
than most war movies.  The final assualt was beyond belief.

marc colten
From: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: best war movies
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.movies, gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
In article <2282@shuksan.boeing.com> major@shuksan.boeing.com (Mike Schmitt) wr
>ites:
.>: My all-time favorite war movies:

.>        - Gung Ho

>        Excuse me, but wasn't this a stupid comedy directed by Ron Howard and
>starring Michael Keaton about a Japanese-owned American automobile factory?
>
>        Pretty broad definition of war movie, if you ask me.


I think he was referring to the movie with Randolph Scott and Robert Mitchell
made in 1943.. It was one of those "hate Jap" movies turned out during
the war as semi-propaganda.. Also starred Noah Beery Jr. and J Carrol Nash.
.
.
.
...
From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: AFTER HOURS (was HEAD-less)
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:37:06 GMT
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.

In article <1992Aug17.043023.20594@walter.cray.com> matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:
>In article <JEFFT.92Aug10011443@w20-575-76.mit.edu> jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang) writes:
>>
>>Head is Teri Garr's first movie (small role).  When asked about this movie
>>on Letterman, she said it was titled that way, so if they ever made a
>>sequel, the could say, "From the people that gave you Head."
>>
>In a similar vein Teri plays a stuck-in-the-Sixties waitress and Monkee's
>groupie in the film "After Hours". As I recall, she traps Griffin Dunne
>in her apartment and makes him listen to "Last Train to Clarksville".


AFTER HOURS is one of my all-time faves, and IMHO that performance defines
Teri Garr.  She hasn't been that lovably wacky before nor since.

Anyone else think that was an outstanding film?  Catherine Whats-her-name
from SCTV was wicked as the Mr. Softee vigilante!
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Masturbation in SINGLE WHITE FEMALE
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:21:51 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1743egINNok2@agate.berkeley.edu> peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:
*>Though I didn't think about it while watching the film, upon further 
*>reflection I was quite upset about the masturbation scene in SWF. Not
*>because masturbation offends me, but the opposite. When the Fonda character
*>sneaks up on the Leigh character masturbating, it is obvious that this
*>action leads to the Leigh's characterization of loneliness (especially as
*>it follows a love scene with Fonda)... Leigh, of course, is not mentally
*>with-it... I'm disturbed by that the mentally whacked-out character is 
*>shown masturbating as a symbol of her loneliness, and possibly her 
*>insanity (as it is not portrayed positively in the film)... It's unfair
*>(considering how many people masturbate) and discouraging to those who
*>might already feel guilty in pleasuring themselves. Jeers to SWF.

You're kidding, right?  Please tell me that this is a joke, that you're
making fun of the people who complained about Basic Instinct?

I thought the BI protest was bad, because gays and lesbians were protesting
the movie because all the non-heterosexuals in the movie were crazy or
somehow mentally not-all-there.  But to "jeer" at SWF because the only
masturbation shown in the movie is done by the crazy character?  This
is just too much.


-- 
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Highlander (was Re: What makes a movie good)
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:28:47 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

> Another thing that makes or breaks the 'good film' label for me is 
> INTERNAL consistancy.  _Highlander_ may have been a bit unreal, but
> it is consistant within itself on the bits that are unreal.  True,
> there is no explaination of why the immortals exist, but Ramirez is
> consistent in his explainations of what he knows and states quite
> clearly '...why does the sun rise in the east?  Or are the stars only
> pinpricks in the curtain of the night?  Who knows?'  

Ya wanna know the thing that really bothered me about _Highlander_?

Well...I'll tell you anyway.  I love the movie, I really do, but why the
hell did they have a *Scotsman* in Scotland playing an Egyptian, pretending
to be a Spainard???                                    ^^^^^^^^
        ^^^^^^^^
Connery shoulda just been a Scotch immortal!!!  *sigh*

Greg Bole                              "Lord, thank you for that waitress in 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu            South Bend.  You know the one, she was
                                        calling your name the whole time."
                                          Tom Hanks in _A Leauge of Their Own_
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: The Potion with the Poison...
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:45:44 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Edinburgh University

ENOUGH, ENOUGH!!  I only posted the original message a few hours ago and
I've already had a dozen replies - I'm drowning in E-mail :-)
For those of you wondering though  the line came from a film entitled   
"The Court Jester" starring Danny Kaye. 

Thanks to all of you who replied.

	Mark

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From: zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Pointed Movies (was re: Unforgiven)
Date: 16 Aug 92 02:06:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Aug15.220655.14775
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Aug15.215921.2006@eecs.nwu.edu> 
kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:

MLK:
> [...]									  I
>will give you that Unfogiven was pretty good story, but what would you say 
>it's point is?

No disrespect meant, but if you are looking for a point, I heartily
recommend an icepick in the forehead.  Alternatively, Mosfilm is now having
a garage sale on all the Socialist Realist films ever produced, so if you
just put together some copecks, you'll never again have to suffer through
hours upon hours of decadent, pointless, morally bankrupt Western art.

>Michael
>
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>  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
>                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Nous donnons la mort, nous saurons la subir."
From: garretso@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Leon T. Garretson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Rapid Fire
Date: 20 Aug 1992 15:27:58 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <Bt9n9t.L44@news.cso.uiuc.edu> daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming) writes:
>
>	Just got back from a Sneak Preview of Brandon Lee's new movie,
>Rapid Fire.  Admittedly, it's predictable and cliche-ridden, but it's
>enjoyable.  

	Apologies if I'm wrong but Brandon Lee is in a Dolph Lundgren stinker
	currently playing on HBO called "Showdown in Little Tokyo".

	Sample dialogue:
	Brandon: Where's the girl?
	Dolph:   She's in my room. She was afraid.
	Brandon: I saw you strip before getting in the hot tub. I'd be afraid
		 too.
		 ---------------------
	Brandon: Since we're about to die I thought I'd tell you you have the
		 biggest dick on any man I've ever seen.

		 WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?????
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From: daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming)
Subject: Rapid Fire
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:01:03 GMT


	Just got back from a Sneak Preview of Brandon Lee's new movie,
Rapid Fire.  Admittedly, it's predictable and cliche-ridden, but it's
enjoyable.  
	The basic plot is that Lee's character witnesses a mob killing
(carried out by a mob boss who wants to take some "action" from an
ex-underling), and is sent to Chicago to testify under federal protection.

	Well, that's about as much as I can say without giving anything
away...  :-  Much action ensues.

	The martial-arts scenes are well done.  Pretty painful-looking, 
truth be told.  From what I've heard, the fight choreagraphy was done by
a man who had worked on one of Bruce Lee's films.

	Play a fun game while you watch -- "Count the Cliches!"

waay...  :-
From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:08:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Aug7.194603.16995@cos.com> cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper) writes:
>Want 'em, love 'em, gotta have 'em - War Movies.
>
>My all-time favorites - please post or email your suggestions for others
>to see :

I'm a little late with this, but....

The Big Red One -- A great movie.  Includes every cliche in the book (there's
even a Nazi medic who hisses "For you, the war is over"), but turns
'em all inside out.  A big, colorful (and somewhat thoughtful) piece of pulp 
fiction from Sam Fuller. 

Wind and the Lion -- not precisely a war movie, but plenty of stirring battle
scenes.  The scene where the Marines dogtrot through town and take the
palace (without breaking step!)  is a highlight.  Brian Keith doesn't do
a bad job as Teddy Roosevelt, either.

Pork Chop Hill -- good, grim Korean War movie.  The Korean War movies
of the late '50s/early '60s were a lot more cynical than the WWII movies 
of the same era, perhaps because all America was confused about Korea.  
Was it a war?  Did we win?  
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From: spencer@dew.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Subject: Re: Death Becomes Her *SPOILERS*
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Live Organ Transplants
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:56:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.192019.7945@rock.concert.net>, black@jazz.concert.net (Rob Black) writes:
>
>Question: Does anyone have any idea how they did the special effects
>on Meryl Streep's head? Those scenes where her head was on backwards
>were great! Likewise for the hole right through Goldie Hawn's stomach!!

I seem to remember reading (in _Premiere_?) that they did the Meryl
Streep scene by having her walk through it twice, once forward and once
backwards, and clever use of editing and other FX techniques.

Dunno about the Goldie Hawn, it might have been in the same article but
it's been a while.

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