HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Suburbs swing to Clinton in Time magazine poll
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:37:41 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Sep9.215027.18476@ils.nwu.edu> hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER) writes:
>
>The ultimate test of a poll is repeatability,  and as long as the poll data
>from different poll taking companies gives you the same information;  Bush
>is very unpopular,  you will have a hard time proving otherwise until
>someone else confirms
>you.

If you believe what you have just posted, then some of the national polls 
released just this week must be false.  Last Monday, I heard four polls 
with the following differences: 19%, 14%, 11% and 9%.  Do you call that 
repeatability?


-- 
State money should "be provided only to invalids and the elderly"; "teachers 
should be tested for competency.  All curriculums shall focus on the basics in 
high-school requirements...advanced sciences and additional math, English and writing."  --- from _Bloods/Crips Proposal for LA's Facelift_
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: best@anasazi.com (Mike Best)
Subject: Re: Real estate decline
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:52:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.150150.4035@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>In article <BuCHED.En6@eis.calstate.edu>, kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell) writes:
>> 
>> Both wrong, gentlemen; the S&L crisis was caused by changes in the tax
>> lasw relating to real estate development. Congress did it. Fraud accounted
>> for less than 1 percent, even by the MAXIMUM estimates. 
>
>	Yeah, but what did those tax changes result in?  Real estate
>speculation was no longer economically viable.  All those empty buildings could
>no longer be used as "junk equity".
>
You've missed the point.  As an example for you, try this during the 
winter months:

a.  Buy bird seed and begin feeding birds when the snow has covered 
    the ground and is likely to for the next several months (if you
    get any snow there).

b.  Continue to feed them for at least 2 months.

c.  Suddenly, and without warning, stop putting bird seed out for
    the birds to eat.

Obviously this is going to cause havoc in the bird world and you may
see some savage behavior on their behalf.  This is exactly what we
are talking about in the S&L crisis.  In this case the bird seed is
the tax deduction and the birds and the citizens of this country who
invested.  Congress, in a fit of Wealth-Envy, cut off the bird seed
and starved the S&Ls.

So now those buildings are no longer junk equity, they are merely junk.
Are you happy?

Mike Best
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4772 talk.politics.misc:45344
From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Real estate decline
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:09:28 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <1992Sep10.150150.4035@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:

>	Yeah, but what did those tax changes result in?  Real estate
>speculation was no longer economically viable.  All those empty buildings could
>no longer be used as "junk equity".

I'm glad you brought up the subject of junk.  Another thing congress did
to make the S&L mess worse than it needed to be, was to force the S&L's
to sell all of their junk bonds into the bottom of the market.  Of course
the fact that a significant fraction of all junk bonds were being sold
during a short period of time (couple of months?) depressed the market
even further.

The junk bond market has rallied tremendously over the last couple of
years.  This capital would have been sufficient to keep many S&L's
in the black.

-- 
--Mark
My opinions are mine, all mine.  Unless someone else claims them first.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Keys to the election
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:16:52 PDT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

>In article <5156@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> sdbst5@gl.pitt.edu (Stephen D Brener)
 writes:
>
>>Did the Republican convention look like a large circus of red-necks
>>to anyone else on the net?

NO.  And I should know, I'm from Bakersfield.

In article <1992Aug26.025832.16332@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes
:
>	It sure did to me. It is amazing to see a bunch of fat cats
>and pampered pets claim that hard work is such a virtue, to see

And 21 of 28 (mind you that's 75%) of millionaire Senators are *Democrats*.
Hard work is becoming a virtue in this sad society.  How many people do you
know that are the epitome of the Protestant Work Ethic?  I think work is
healthy.  So sue me.  I'm Protestant too.  Fainted yet?  Good.
As usual, (but it doesn't appear on this newsgroup to be) flames to /dev/null.
And if you're not running Unix, I'm sure you can find somwhere else to stick
them.

Jennifer
****************************************************************
Vote Bill Clinton in '92.  "Support Your Willie!"
Vote Bill Clinton on Nov. 3rd.  Carter's daughter was ugly too!
Disclaimer: I'm Republican.
****************************************************************

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From: ztsindi@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (The Independents - SUNY Buffalo)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Draft Dodger Controlling Nukes? (NOT!)
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:28:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	God Have Mercy on us! Bill Clinton's attempt to sound
tough (Send the Marines to Bosnia) is as effective as Dukakis in
a tank! Do we really want a draft-dodging,pot-semi-smoking,LYING,
ambitious,wind up toy run by his feminist pants-of-the family wife,
imitation Jimmy Carter (who at LEAST SERVED HIS COUNTRY IN THE
NAVY) making decisions about who's sons and daughters should die
in futile vietnam-like quaqmires? <deep breath> Bush is a damn
fine American who is MUCH more qualified to run the government
than Mr. I Do What Hillary Wants. The last dem gov we had in
the White House gave us double-digit inflation, near double-digit
unemployment, made the US a nation to be laughed at by the likes
of a backward, perverse, country like Iran and changed economic
policies with the frequency he changed his clothes (and don't
tell me what a wonderful President Carter was, he's a better
ex-President, almost as good as Nixon). Clinton wants one
thing for America - HIMSELF IN CONTROL OF IT. His interests lie
in gaining Power for Himself. Putting People First? How? By
making them all dependent on the Government? By taking away the
incentives to make profits (and therefore bussiness' and jobs)
in America? By forcing my children to accept groups like ACT-OUT
..er...RETCH-UP as NORMAL? By making social decisions based
on Hillary's whim? Bush has his faults, duplicity is not one
of them, (all you Conspiracy Fans can jump on here).
							-Joe
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From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Abortion rights and responsibilities
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:53:07 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Organization: SGI TechPubs

---
eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
|Just a thought (it's after midnight for this post). Usually when one is
|accorded rights, one is also accorded responsibilities with which one
|should use these rights. For example, no slander/libel when invoking
|"free speech," or shooting innocents when owning a gun, and so on. As
|the signs from pro-choicers/pro-abortionists say "Abortion rights NOW!"
|I am wondering what responsibilities are accorded to this
|constitutionally protected (according to the Supreme Court) right.

The same responsibilities (whatever those are) "accorded to" 
[sic] any elective surgery.  Duh.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"'Nonsense, errant nonsense, as ever was talked!' cried Knightley." 
						-- Jane Austen
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: rdosser@utkux1.utk.edu (rdosser)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:12:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.145259.11010@anasazi.com> best@anasazi.com (Mike
Best) wri
tes:

>
>o  He is a Luddite, he believes that technology is evil and that
>   we should get rid of automobiles (page 206, 318)

That's a pretty amazing thing to say about a man who has fought for
years to pass the Supercomputer Highway Act and other measures designed
to hone America's high-tech competitive edge. 
Al Gore's record shows he is a strong proponent of beneficial technologies, but is also
strongly opposed to insanely destructive technology like low-efficiency,
highly polluting automobiles.
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From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:33:21 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree) writes:
> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
> ->I suppose that if you don't think life should be at least partly fun, you
> ->will never understand why Democrats find Quayle so irresistable. When
> ->the political opponent makes a practice of going onto stages before large
> ->audiences, throwing banana peels onto the floor and then slipping on them,
> ->laughter becomes as hard to forestall as hunger or any other natural
> ->impulse.

>  Are you trying to say that Liberal Democrates dont make these gaffs to ?

Did my guardian angel send you to me? You're too perfect. Sorry for
kicking your small details, but since spelling and such has become an
important election year issue...

  For a conservative, that's a very liberal capitalization of "liberal."
  Who is Democrates, some Greek philosopher?
  Don't forget to put an apostrophe in your contractions.
  Your penultimate word was a gaffe.
  Don't end a sentence with a preposition, especially when you want an adverb.

Come on...say you're pulling my leg.

> A comedian could fund his entire career by making fun of what Ted Kennedy
> and Mario Cuomo says.

I doubt it. Although I will admit that Pat Buchanan has funded his
fledgling comedy career in that manner.

> Rush Limbaugh seems to be the only popular media
> soul who has decided to become rich doing it.

There's a sucker born every minute.

John
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 22:27:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

In article <6205@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
>mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier) writes:
>
>> Ok you asked for it.  How come when Mr. Quail makes a mistake such as 
>> mispelling a word, its all over the news for days, but when Bill 'I lied
>> to the draft board' Clinton says Patriot missiles can go through cracks
>> and down chimney, like we all saw on TV, the national news does not say it.  
>
>In Clinton's case, it was a slip of the tongue. In Quayle's case, it's a
>case of pitiful stupidity. Not an opinion, just the facts.

And was it a "slip of the tongue" that Clinton claimed Reagan and Lincoln
were never in the military? Is it a "slip of the tongue" that a prepared
speech that Clinton read repeatedly to learn, and which went through who knows
how many handlers during its preparation, has such an error? If he makes
errors of fact such as these, which are trivial to check, how many errors
is he making in his policy statements, his economic plan, etc. etc.? 
-- 
John Switzer               | 50 years from now, nobody will
                           | remember Candice Bergen or Murphy
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | Brown, but every school kid will
jrs@netcom.com             | be taught about President Quayle.
From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: EDITORIAL: Sexual revolution -- Duke CHRONICLE
Keywords: family values, sex, sexual revolution, editorial
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:48:24 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

lazarus@ocf.berkeley.edu (Andrew J. Lazarus) writes:
=eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
=>Taken without permission from the Duke CHRONICLE < student-run newspaper >
=>from Wed Sep 02 92, p 11.
=
=Is this a "student-run" newspaper or one of those right-wing tabloids
=supported by extremist conservative foundations?

The Duke CHRONICLE is THE major journalistic-style newspaper on campus.
It takes many articles from the NYT wire, AP wire, etc. It's the
student-run newspaper with a circulation of 15,000. The editors as a
group are generally politically liberal although this year the editors
don't seem to be as heavily left-wing as in past years.

The student-run opinionated newspapers on campus are _The Missing Link_
(liberals) and _The Duke Review_ (conservative). They operate on a monthly
basis.

-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck (Duke BME '93)		eyc@acpub.duke.edu
I'm too busy for my class, too busy for my clubs, too busy for my work.
I'm too busy for my mail, too busy for my news, too busy for my calls.
I'm too busy for this .sig. 
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From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media
Subject: Re: Bush campaign issues ultimatum on debates
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:59:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER) writes:
+clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
+> 	WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The Bush-Quayle campaign, rejecting the use of a
+> single moderator in presidential debates, told Bill Clinton that the
+> president would only debate the Democratic nominee twice if a panel of
+> journalists asks the questions.
+> 	The campaign characterized the proposal as an ultimatum, saying in a
+> letter released Monday, ``If we do not hear from you on the affirmative
+> by (Friday) Sept. 18 we will assume that you do not want to debate.''
+> 	Clinton has embraced the moderator format designed by a bipartisan
+> commission on presidential debates and said he will be in East Lansing,
+> Mich., on Sept. 22, designated by the commission as time and place of
+> the first debate, whether or not Bush shows up.
+> 	The hardball response, engineered by Bush's chief of staff, James
+> Baker, and carried out by campaign chairman Robert Teeter, also calls
+> for two debates, not three, as originally set by the commission. A
+> single vice presidential debate would also be held.
+> 	Bush prefers the format used in 1988, in which four journalists took
+> turns at asking the candidates questions, who delivered short responses
+> and even shorter rebuttals.
+> 	A single moderator format, Bush officials fear, could enhance the
+> performance of Clinton, who is a strong debater and able to call on
+> facts and figures with relative ease.
+> 	Bush, however, is more comfortable with a question-and-answer format
+> that he has grown accustomed to at news conferences. The format allows a
+> candidate to make his or her point without necessarily being challenged
+> on details.
+> 	``They have said they are eager and willing to debate. It's in their
+> hands now,'' said Tony Mitchell, a Bush campaign spokesman.
+> 	``We think that these terms and this format has been successful and
+> works well,'' he added.

Does anyone know who's on the bipartisan commission?
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck (Duke BME '93)		eyc@acpub.duke.edu
I'm too busy for my class, too busy for my clubs, too busy for my work.
I'm too busy for my mail, too busy for my news, too busy for my calls.
I'm too busy for this .sig. 
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:4329 alt.news-media:1136 alt.activism.d:3050
From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.news-media,alt.activism.d
Subject: Re: A journalist speaks on media bias
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:59:02 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <1992Sep3.233719.28486@techbook.com> gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes:
>Could you guys tell me where you live?  Every newspaper on the west
>coast is pretty conservative.  Here in Portland, the Oregonian hasn't
>endorsed a Democratic presidential candidate in many decades -- although
>they might have a hard time going with Bushie this time.  The editorial
>page is loaded with people like Will, Kilpatrick and the Oregonian's
>resident right-wing creep. They even run an anti-enviromentalist
>environmental column, and every once in a while they run one by a real
>environmentalist.  They have one local columnist that many here would
>probably call a "liberal".  That's it.

Just because a paper chooses to run conservative columns (presumably
in the name of "balance") doesn't mean it is conservative.  Take the
LA Times for example.  The Oregonian announced at the beginning of the
year that they would no longer use the names of the Atlanta Braves or
Cleveland Indians (and this will probably or already has expand to the
Washington Redskins, KC Chiefs, and many college teams) in print ever.
Sounds like a real conservative position to me.

>As far as liberal San Francisco goes, you ever hear of William Randolph
>Hearst?

Oh what a great example.  A dead man from the 40's.  Well, SF has
changed a great deal since Hearst's time.  SF, Marin, and Alameda
Counties are left-wing hotbeds.  They brought us leftist icons like
Willie Brown, "Red" Ron Dellums, the very dead (hurrah) Phil Burton,
and Barbara Bouncer.  And reflectings its community, the SF Chronicle
is very left.

Left-wing papers on the "Left Coast":  LA Times, SF Chronicle,
Oregonian, Sacramento Bee, the former San Diego Tribune, and probably
the Seattle paper

Compare name recognition with:  OC Register, LA Daily News, Sacramento
Union, and the former San Diego Union.

With the exception of the SD Union (which no longer exists), all the
conservative papers are viewed as "second-string" counterparts.  The
national media still treats OC as an LA "suburb gone wrong," although
it is starting to come around.  Until recently, the Register was
almost always mentioned in the same breath as the Manchester Union Leader.

Agitator
  #->

"A political deadend."                  Bruce Herschensohn for U.S. Senate!!!
    --Gore on the Vice Presidency when    Not the ten-year       //  The REAL
      asked about a Dukakis-Gore ticket   Congress insider      //   outsider
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: Far Right's New "Bill of Rights"
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:41:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.111021.2245@afit.af.mil>, jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:

	[re: property forfeiture laws]

|> May I ask how forfeiture laws have come to be blamed on conservatives?
|> This law was passed by the Congress in it's on-going effort to fight
|> the drug war.  

	Naturally, congress had a hand in the war on drugs, but it was still
Bushs baby. He campaigned on in in 88, he promoted it heavly, he lobbied
for the laws to be passed, and he went to great lengths to be associated
with the War on Drugs. If anybody deserves credit for this little tidbit,
it's George. Besides, it only affects drug dealers, or anybody else who
likes to take a wad of cash when they go on vacation.

|> upheld its legality.  Does *everything* have to be pinned on one side or
|> the other?  Can't we do anything as a country anymore?

	Hmm. can we get GHWB to take some responsibilty for the worst
economic environment since the depression? Last I heard, it was still the
fault of the "deadlock congress". Last I heard, George wasn't responsible
for the bills the he signed, let alone the stuff that he never heard of
(like Iran Contra).

-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
The feminist agenda is a socialist, anti-family political movement that 
encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice 
witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. - Pat Robertson 1992
From: dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Meier)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton's Cabinet (humorous suggestions)
Summary: You asked for it.......
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:54:49 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <5181@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>General -- can't remember the source). So anyone out there please fill
>in the following blanks (humor please) with regards to who you think will
>be in a Clinton cabinet (and other executive office positions).
>
>Attorney General

Gotta be Anita Hill....

>Federal Reserve Board Chairman

Let's hear it Lyndon LaRouche!

>Emil Thomas Chuck (Duke BME '93)		eyc@acpub.duke.edu


-- 
Douglas C. Meier		|  Remember to vote this election year,       
 				|  you probably won't get another one. 
I don't claim them, they don't	|  
claim me.......			|  dmeier@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton
From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up! Press Reports It!
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.191332.21155@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep9.120715.16501@afit.af.mil> jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer) writes:
>>>mistake from somebody who doesn't know a good offense from a bad
>>					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>defense...
>> ^^^^^^^
>
>>Wow.  Sounds like a Quayle Quote.
>
>
>>Bushism from '88 (did TNR coin that term by then?):
>>"September 7: A Day That Will Live in Infamy."
>
>>			-- _Bob Roberts_
>
>What?

Er, which part?


Is it:

a) The Quayle Quote:

Bobby Knight told me this: 'There is nothing that a good defense 
cannot beat a better offense.'  In other words a good offense wins.
		-- Vice President Dan Quayle comparing the 
                   offensive capabilities of the Warsaw Pact
                   with the defensive system of NATO

b) The Bushism is a reference to a comment he made to the American Legion
on Sept. 7, 1988, in which he mentioned that that day was Pearl Harbor
Day.

or,

c) _Bob Roberts_ is a movie about a right-wing folk-singer running
for a Senatorial seat.

Pick and choose.

--
"I wish I could vote for you a hundred times"
"You can . . . just kidding."
			-- _Bob Roberts_