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From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: Six sixers in the same over!
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:24:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.070736.26391@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
>hiranya@leland.stanford.edu (Pratheep Balasingam) writes:
>
>
>>I recall that Gary Sobers, and Frank Heyes both managed to hit
>>six sixers in the same over off the same bowler : Malcolm Nash.
>>Is this correct, or am I imagining this? Please clarify. Also
>>I think Ravi Shastri too has hit six sixers in the same over
>>in a first-class match. Are there any other such instances? 
>
>
>
>
>Ravi shashtri hit six sixers in Ranjit Trophy(First Class Match).
>
>
>I don't have any idea who was the bowler.
>


TILAK RAJ

Cheers,

V Ramkumar



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From: SOCC9241430E@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (JACKSON,Chris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: FINAL SIX SIXES POSTING
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:17:18 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
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C'mon guys, let's get some clues about what we are posting now!  If anyone 
really gave a shit as to who has hot what, then they can look at it in the 
record books!!!!!!!

Reading continuous streams of boring articles related to nothing in particular
doesnt excit many!!!!!  Get the act together and post something worthwhile!

By the way.....the poms are useless!!!!  (Here is a topic to talk about)



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From: v079rbu4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: World rankings
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92289.133258HH9679A@auvm.american.edu>, HH9679A@auvm.american.edu (Howard E. Hill-Esbrand) writes...
>This is a totally unbiased and sane ranking of the
>Test and 1 day international playing teams
>Test Rankings
>West Indies(shaky but still undefeated in a series since 80)
>Pakistan(Without Imran and a declining Javed not as potent..even with Waqar)
>Australia( Needs more bowlers than McDermott and Hughes)
>England(Has not defeated the above teams in a series recently.OVERRATED)
>India- New Zealand (even bet, no challenge to front runners may be able
>to beat up on England on any given day)
>Sri Lanka ( Still developing. Aravindra De Silva is a world class bat)
>South Africa (Not enough recent matches. one test against WI is not
> 
>enough to judge.Good players - Wessels,Hudson,Pringle & Donald)
> 
>ODI
>Pakistan
>England
>Australia
>West Indies
>New Zealand
>India
>Sri Lanka
>South Africa -Again you cannot judge SA since They have only recently
>re-entered the cricket fold playing 3 ODI against India,World Cup
>and a ODI series against WI. Lots of promise though.

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?

How can you put Australia over India & Sri Lanka by looking at there 
performance in the last series(both OD & Test).


Cheers
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From: jka@ipsa.reuter.com (Jan Arendtsz)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Organization: Reuters Information Services (Canada) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:40:02 GMT

In article <BvrnBp.5Dn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) writes:
>In article <6OCT199219351704@zeus.tamu.edu> fdm0886@zeus.tamu.edu (Faraaz) writes:
>
>>>11.Iqbal Qasim
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>I wish people would stop including players who never held a permanent position
>>in their respective team sides!
>
>Iqbal Qasim played 50 tests, and the only reason he didn't play more
>is that he was around at the same time as Abdul Qadir (clear choice
>for first XI spinner).  His figures are nearly as good as Qadir's --
>in fact his average is better, although he didn't win as many matches
>as Qadir did.
>
>There weren't any truly great spinners in the 1980's.  If there's
>anyone who's an obviously better choice for the 2nd best spinner,
>I'd like to hear who that is.  Emburey?  Gak.  Edmonds?  Gak gak.
>Higgs?  Come on.  Harper?  You're joking.  Dilip Doshi and Bruce
>Yardley would be competitive here, but neither of these is obviously
>better.  I notice that your suggested team includes Bishen Bedi,
>which would be a terrific idea if Bedi's career hadn't ended in 1979.
>
>-- 
>Dave Chalmers                            (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu)      


hat about John Bracewell?


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  Jan Arendtsz                   email: jka@itcyyz.ipsa.reuter.com
From: pvr@argo.rice.edu (PVR Narasimha Rao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Observations on the Indian team to tour Zim/SA
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:00:57 GMT
Organization: Rice University


In article <1992Oct5.080441.13873@dmpe.csiro.au>, mohan@phi.mel.dms.CSIRO.AU (Mohan Krishnamoorthy) writes:


|> . The presence of too many `uncooperative' senior players in the team.
|>   Examples of such behaviour was evident from the (perceptibly obvious)
|>   displays on the field by Shastri, Kapil, Vengsarkar and (albeit to a
|>   lesser extent) Srikkanth -- all ex-captains of the Indian team. 
|>   Although I do acknowledge Kapil's great contibution to Indian cricket
|>   and the spirit in which he plays the game (that too, in spite of some
|>   really rough and totally bizzarre treatment by the Indian selcetors),
|>   I was rather appalled by some statements he made in the Indian press
|>   and Australian media, all through the series -- when he insisted on
|>   commenting on Azharuddin's "immaturity".  Such `pressure' from senior
|>   players can't do any captain much good.  Certainly, it did a meek,
|>   mr-nice-guy (Azhar) no good at all.  Hopefully, with the absence of
|>   Srikkanth and Vangsarkar, he will get more cooperation from Shastri
|>   and Kapil this time around.


Unfortunately, he may not get more co-operation from those two even on
this tour.

Kapil and Shastri will still be hoping to become the captain for the series
with England. The situation is not much different (except that there are no
Veng and Sri) from it was one year back, on the tour of Oz. Even then, Kapil
and Shastri had hopes of captaining India in the world cup.

It is in this regard that I thought they should've either selected Kapil as
the captain for the Zim/SA tour or retained Azza and given him sometime
(atleast till the end of this season). Instead of settling the issue, they
are postponing the solution to the nest season. But, certain problems are
best solved at certain times ....


|> /Mohan 


PVR
From: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:57:06 GMT
Reply-To: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <BvrnBp.5Dn@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) writes:

[discussion of Iqbal Qasim deleted]

>
>There weren't any truly great spinners in the 1980's.  If there's
>anyone who's an obviously better choice for the 2nd best spinner,
>I'd like to hear who that is.  Emburey?  Gak.  Edmonds?  Gak gak.
>Higgs?  Come on.  Harper?  You're joking.  Dilip Doshi and Bruce
>Yardley would be competitive here, but neither of these is obviously
>better.  I notice that your suggested team includes Bishen Bedi,
>which would be a terrific idea if Bedi's career hadn't ended in 1979.

Just to get my 2 cents worth in here, I have always felt that
Stephen Boock of New Zealand was a damned good spinner, although
his talent was often overlooked both by the cricketing public, and
(more annoyingly) by the selectors.  I don't know what his international
figures were like, but I always thought he was a better bowler than
Bracewell, who held the spinner's spot in the NZ team for years.

>-- 
>Dave Chalmers                            (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu)      
>Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University.
>"It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable."

Cheers, Paul
From: phl@cs.man.ac.uk ( Peter H Liyanage)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: NZ Tour to Zimbabwae
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:59:09 GMT
Reply-To: phl@fiveg.icl.co.uk ( Peter H Liyanage)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK

In article <Bw4voy.7xB@comp.vuw.ac.nz> John.Mcmullan@comp.vuw.ac.nz (John Michael McMullan) writes:
>
>Further to my last post NZ is touring Zimbabwae NOT SriLanka. They'll be
>playing two tests. The international/neutral umpire for the two tests will be
>none other than T.C. Dickie Bird himself.
>
>PS Martin Crowe is still in bed...

I think he might as well be there. You will get a water boy in SL,
you dont have to take your own.
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From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Imran Khan -retiring again?
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 07:27:40 GMT

ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:

>Well it's been "officially" reported over here in Australia that Imran HAS
>retired. (For good this time). Imran said he "unofficially" retired after the
>World Cup, but wanted to give himself a bit of time before announcing it.

>--
>Daniel.


Imran would be leading Pakistan in the next world cup
if Zia were alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Thanks to the Air Crash on 17th August, 1988 that we are not going
see Imran again in the next world cup.


Bye
Adil
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: karnik@exa.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Australian cricket season starts ......
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:14:13 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Oct15.033123.6294@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:

>In article <10638@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> brendan@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>>
>>Just adding my concurrence that Pakistan are World Cup champs until the
>>next tournament comes around!

>Indeed, Pakistan are and will be world champs till 1997.
>Nobody can deny it.  

	Why this fixation with 1997 ? This is about the fourth time I've seen
this year mentioned in this context. Have I missed something ? Isn't the next
World Cup to be played in 1995 (or 96, if in SA) ??

>V Ramkumar
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From: shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Reply-To: shamim@bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:43:43 GMT

In article 195206HH9679A@auvm.american.edu,  Howard E. Hill-Esbrand <HH9679A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>How can any team play Qadir before Holding or Garner? 

To lend versatilityto the attack. After all why play 5 fast bowlers? 
On the other hand there are some people who believe in simply playing the best 
and not worrying about balanced attacks, etc. Remember the time Imran played two 
leg spinners (Qadir and Mushtaq) in the same ODI? So arguments can be made for both 
views. 

In a private conversation in Lahore Viv Richards joked that he would gladly 
give up two fast bowlers to get one Qadir (this was after Qadir had dismissed 
WI for 50+ at Faisalabad). He was referring to the fact that whereas WI seems 
to have a never ending supply of fast bowlers they have not produced a world 
class spinner in quite some time. 

Interesting to wonder what it would have been like to play the WI if they had 
three quickies (Marshall, Holding and Garner) and Qadir. A sample of this was
provided by Pakistan to England this summer. As Woodcock wrote in The Times and 
I am parapharsing: imagine you are Salim Malik. You have just seen a torrid spell by 
Malcolm which you have survived and with relief you see him taking his sweater 
and being replaced by Pringle. Now imagine you are Robin Smith. From one end, Mushtaq
is asking questions that often make you guess. From the other Waqar is bowling as fast as you 
you have probably ever faced and making the ball swing at that pace. With relief you 
watch Waqar take his sweater but then you realize that his place is being taken by Wasim 
who starts bowling just as fast and making the ball do just as much as Waqar. 


	--SAN

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From: m0a1530@zeus.tamu.edu (ABBAS, MUSTAFA)
Subject: Re: World rankings
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:08:00 GMT

In article <00962071.542FA400@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes...
>In article <1992Oct13.154319.18831@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:
>>
> 
>ODI
>---
> 
>1.Pakistan
>2.England
>3.South Africa
>4.Australia
>5.New Zealand
>6.Sri Lanka
>7.India
>8.West Indies  (may be surprising , but they have to rebuild)
>9.Zimbabwe
> 
>Tests
>-----
> 
>1.West Indies
>2.Australia
>3.Pakistan
>4.England
>5.New Zealand
>6.India
>7.South Africa
>8.Sri Lanka
> 
	WHAT!!!!!!!!
	WI first and Aus second? 
	its should be more like 
1. pakistan
2. pakistan
3. pakistan and so on
From: karnik@exa.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Six sixes in an over
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:40:00 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Oct16.163027.25333@usl.edu> sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG) writes:

>BTW, I would like to know the state of the match when Shastri
>hit those six sixes. Was it heading towards a boring draw
>as is usually the case in India ? 

>Also, what was Shastri's individual score then ? Probably he had 
>already passed the three-figure mark and therefore had nothing to
>lose! I can take a bet that Shastri's flurry of sixes would have 
>had _nothing_ to do with the team's needs...

	Another one of the "Shastri hai hai" crowd no doubt. Well, FYI, the
"state of the match" then was that Bombay needed to score quick runs and 
declare, to try and get Baroda out in the second innings. Shastri scored the
fastest double century in first class cricket (breaking Lloyd's record) before
Bombay declared. As far as I remember, he had not passed the 100-mark before he
hit the sixers. His final score was just above 200 (n.o.).... Bombay went on
to win that game. Someone mentioned that Gavaskar was there to witness the
historic incident. Well, of course he was. He was the Bombay captain....

>--Sudhi.

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From: bnataraj@uceng.UC.EDU (Bhaskar Natarajan)
Subject: stiffer over rates for SA Tour ??
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:20:52 GMT


	I just read that the minimum overs per hour required to be
bowled on the Indian our to Zim. and SA is 21 !!  Apparently, Wadekar
asked the players to prepare themselves.

	Now 21 overs per hour is *IMPOSSIBLE*. Even for ODI's it is 
something like 15. Maybe it is a typo, and the actual figure is 12,
but then, 12 overs/hr is nothing great, and certainly not something the
manager should specifically warn the players about. I also think some
"new rules" were mentioned.

	Looking for clarifications from someone in the know.

Bye,
Bhaskar
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From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: Australian cricket season starts ......
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:56:14 GMT

In article <12OCT199216542273@zeus.tamu.edu>, m0a1530@zeus.tamu.edu (ABBAS, MUSTAFA) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct11.223135.15086@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU>, kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes...
|> >In article <1992Oct9.063911.22291@leland.Stanford.EDU> arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes:
|> >>In article <1992Oct9.032838.18523@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
|> >>>
|> >>Though this may seem baised, Pakistan though already "world champions in 
|> >>one day cricket" may also lay calims to be "test cricket world champions"
|> >>and if no than atleast the "Most Unpredictable Exciting Coming from 
|> >>near cricket team in the World" ( just like montana's 49er's, for you American
|> >>football fans)
|> >>
|> > 
|> >Indeed, the West Indies are th test cricket world champs. Do not
|> >decide on their present form. I can also say that Pakistan are
|> 				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^			
|> >ex-one day cricket world champs based on their present form after
|> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> being thrashed by England in the One day internationals. So, do not
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>
|> judge a team based on their present form.   
|> 
|> 
|> 	you must be out of your mind to suggest that Pakistan are 
|> Ex-OD Champs. The WC decided the championship for the next 4 years
|> and no matter how bad Pak plays they will remain OD CHAMPS till '97. 

	Ok.

	tom
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: "we are the world " t
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:19:51 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Oct12.4733.16598@dosgate> "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com> writes:
> HH9679A@auvm.american.edu says:
> Hh> Spin can be negated by any No 11 batsman by simply padding the
> Hh> ball away. 

	   My friend, if yout goal is to get the number 11 out, then you
might as well quit the game while you have nine out. :-) Besides, a
good spinner can't be negated that easily. Try padding up to Mushtaq
like Hick does. Do you remember the way he was humiliated by Mushtaq
in the wordl cup? Having said that, I guess most number elevens will
play Mushy better than Hick. :-)

> Notice the top teams in the world concentrate on the
> Hh> Quick stuff e.g Pakistan (Akram,Waqar Younis,Aqib Javed and the
> Hh> recently retired Imran), West Indies(Bishop, Ambrose,Walsh,Patterson).
> 
> Also, Mushtaq Ahmad is now an INTEGRAL part of Pakistan's offensive
>line.
> A good leg-spinner is a HUGE threat to ANY sort of batsman.
> Faraz Rabbani

	   Now here is one sensible cricketer - Mr. Faraz Rabbani!

DS[Q]A


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From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: Australian cricket season starts ......
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:31:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.063911.22291@leland.Stanford.EDU> arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.032838.18523@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
>>The cricket season in Australia has started.
>>
>>Next month Australia will be playing 5 tests against the
>>test cricket world champions WEST INDIES.
>
>Test cricket world champions, did i see right or did you mean to write 
>" ex cricket world champions". I have always been a fan of the west indies
>but to call them world champions in there present from is a joke. After nearly
>losing to south africa and there previous tour against the english, NOT!.
>
>Though this may seem baised, Pakistan though already "world champions in 
>one day cricket" may also lay calims to be "test cricket world champions"
>and if no than atleast the "Most Unpredictable Exciting Coming from 
>near cricket team in the World" ( just like montana's 49er's, for you American
>football fans)
>

Indeed, the West Indies are th test cricket world champs. Do not
decide on their present form. I can also say that Pakistan are
ex-one day cricket world champs based on their present form after
being thrashed by England in the One day internationals. So, do not
judge a team based on their present form.   

Cheers,

Ramkumar


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: Australian cricket season starts ......
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 03:31:23 GMT

In article <10638@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> brendan@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>
>Just adding my concurrence that Pakistan are World Cup champs until the
>next tournament comes around!


Indeed, Pakistan are and will be world champs till 1997.
Nobody can deny it.  

>
>However, there is little doubt that Australia will retain their WSC
>title this season :-).

Australia is presently running in bad form. If Waugh brothers,
Boon and Jones put some wonderful display, Australia will indeed
retain their WSC. Australia desperately needs some good openers.

Cheers,

V Ramkumar
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