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From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: torquey
Date: 18 Nov 1992 06:07:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
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In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:

>In article 1e7bceINNcvv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>you always posting at this time of night, torque?...geez!..we should
>>all be in bed!!!(yes..i'll delete this as soon as you answer, that 
>>precious banwidth crap<??????>)
>>DREW
>>-- 
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>
>
>Were you referring to me?
>
>It was about 9PM when I posted tha last one yesterday.
>
>Torque Monger
>
>

hmm..where in the hell are you??...it was 1am here when i saw it....
and i removed it about ten min. after i posted..didn't expect to hear
a reply from you!
yeah..i was referring to you!
DREW
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From: bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Stick VS Auto.
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:55:31 GMT

in article <1992Nov17.090635.2627@nntp.hut.fi>, mjarvi@vipunen.hut.fi (Mikko I J{rvi) says:
>     If a completely normal human doesnt learn how to drive whit stick in
>  15 min. he/she is an IDIOT. So what is the problem in US of A ??

I drove only autos for about 3 years, and then bought my first manual.
I learned by myself.  Yea, I was hard on it, stalled at lights a few
times, but after a week or so, I was ok with it.  It would have been
nice to have had help tho.

>  P.S Am I the only one who is annoyed from the lack of engine brakeing while

Arg.  If you want engine braking while going down a hill with an auto, you
do the same thing as with a manual, downshift.  Why don't people seem to
know this?

Fun downhill story:
I was coming down Loveland pass. (a steep, twisty 2 lane road in the
Colorado mountains)  In front of me was a Ford Taurus rental car.
The person driving obviously didn't have a clue as to how to drive
in the mountains.  I had dropped my truck into 2nd (auto tranny)
so that I didn't have use my brakes much (actually, if it hadn't
been for the idiot in the Ford, I could have made it the whole
way without brakes).  This person drove the whole 3-4 miles with
their foot on the brake!  They'd almost stop everytime they got
to a turn.  I'm amazed that the brakes didn't fail; they stank by
halfway down.  I think that their should be a seperate license for
driving in the mountains.
--
Brian Millham     |Kitty      |Fletch |Dragon's Lair |Kick Man |New World
AT&T Bell Labs    |Ferrah     |Buddy  |Space Ace     |Sinistar |High Speed
Denver, Co.       |Dr. Pepper |       |              |         |
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From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: SHO WAGON -- Again
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:15:30 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

Just for those of you who engaged in the discussion about putting
an SHO engine in a Taurus Wagon, the Fall 1992 edition of the
SHO Registry newsletter says that they have purchased a Taurus
Wagon and are looking for a wrecked SHO ('93) with an automatic
to slip into the wagon.  

The newsletter goes on to say that there is a rumour of a "couple"
of SHO wagons with 3.0Ltire manuals in the Detroit area...

Sooo, it is happening already...

The newsletter also says the new shifter conversion kit is 
available for $319 from SVO.  It is reputed to work great.  The 
conversion takes about 3 hours and requires a cut in the exhaust
system.  Part number is M-7210-SHO and it is ordered from
313-466-1519.


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com or 74616.2237@compuserve.com
SHO  GOZE
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: HOW TO AVOID HITTING THE WALL IN GARAGE
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:01:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.143255.4890@cbfsb.cb.att.com> danj@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Dan Jackson) writes:
>From article <1992Nov19.020843.4524@attila.weitek.COM>, by ehsan@attila.weitek.COM (Ehsan Kalami):
>> 
>> hi, I am sure a lot of people have a similar problem. Where can one buy
>> blocks of cement/concrete so that we know how far to drive a car into
>> garage. similar to one found in parking lots?
>> thanks.
>
>How about this:
>Take a piece of string about 8 feet long.  On one end of the string,
>attach a rubber ball.  Attach the other end to the ceiling of the garage.
>Place it on the ceiling so that when you pull in to the garage, the
>ball will hit the windshiled of your car.  Then you will know to stop.
>You can get VERY close to the wall this way.
>Enjoy.

or:
hang a electric mobile of our solar system and set it up so that when the 
earth spins into your antenna you stop your car..be careful of neptunes 
gravitational pull though...you may want to start braking early!
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Torque Monger)
Subject: Re: HOW TO AVOID HITTING THE WALL IN GARAG
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:22:38 GMT



Leave the F***ING CAR outside!

Torque Monger

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From: kassover@rumsey.crd.ge.com (David Kassover)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers,misc.kids,sci.med
Subject: Re: Seat Belts Releasing in Crashes: Institute for Injury Reduction
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:37:35 GMT
Organization: nope

In article <1992Nov23.174711.14620@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jung@base.bellcore.com (Eric Jung) writes:
> 
>Yeah, but how does one get a John Deere to do 45 MPH?
>

Other than running it off a cliff (what *is* terminal velocity
these days, anyway?), put it in 10th and let the hammer down...

Works on my friend's 770 (a small utility tractor), anyway.




-- 
David Kassover             "Proper technique helps protect you against
uupsi!khazad!kassover	          sharp weapons and dull judges."
kassover@aule-tek.com                   F. Collins
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From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Storing a 'Stang
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:09:05 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <BxptHy.67K@ecf.toronto.edu> cces@ecf.toronto.edu (Congress of Can Eng Students) writes:
>
>Some people tell me not to start the car at all during the winter, just let
>it sit there with all the fluids topped up for the whole winter.  Some people
>on the other hand tell me to take the car out every couple of weeks for a
>little boot around the block.  What should I do?  What should I NOT do?
>
   
   If you DO choose to start the car, don't just take it around the
   block or you'll do MORE damage than just leaving it.  If you
   start it, take it for a LONG drive, enough to heat the entire
   auto including the exhaust system, suspension, tires, etc. to
   full operating temperature.  Short drives in town do really
   horrid things to a car.  The oil needs to get warm enough to
   fully boil away all the water vapor...ditto the exhaust.

   That's why some experts recommend not starting at all.
From: bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Hot rods & clunkers  (Was: Eth Bl Gas ... )
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:59:12 GMT

in article <1992Nov18.123141.2123@infonode.ingr.com>, greg@cherokee.b23b.ingr.com (Greg Moritz) says:
> I'm not interested in seeing all older cars removed.  Only 
>  "smoke-belching mid-seventies piece of V8 iron.

So how about the smoke-belching 80's Japanese 4's?  I've seen some
mid to late 80's Toyotas and Datsuns that make a great smoke screen.
--
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: G20 vs. Altima, Fast vs. Slow
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:26:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.211724.22551@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>Camry's poor fuel economy? Are you talking about the V6 or V4?
                                                            ^^

	Wow, is there really a V4 around?  My dad's older Camry ('88) has a
Inline 4.  Why would you wan't to build a V4?  I guess if total displacment was
like 5 gallons, or something...

	I could take a cheap shot about people who defend CR, but I won't.

  BIG :-) !!!!

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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: shoud there be two different licences
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:09:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <1992Nov17.020743.8935@news.Hawaii.Edu> ross@tarski.tmc.edu (David Ross) writes:

   In article <1992Nov12.013141.7090@wam.umd.edu> jailbird@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (serial killer) writes:
   >Should we have a one licence to operate a manual transmisssion and one
   >for automatic

   This is common outside the US (e.g., the U.K.); it is no  protection
   against cretinous drivers.

But it does ensure that people at least know how to change gear, which is
what it's meant to do.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: ilh@lcs.mit.edu (Lee Hetherington)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: CONSUMER REPORTS
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:15:30
Organization: MIT/LCS Spoken Language Systems
	<milo-141192174802@mielo.dorm.rutgers.edu>
	<lglq9kINNs18@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <1992Nov19.160218.3195@cs.tulane.edu>
Reply-To: ilh@lcs.mit.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: winnie-the-pooh.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil's message of Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:02:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.160218.3195@cs.tulane.edu>
finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan) writes:
   Service can most definitely affect a customers perspective on
   problems with the car, even to the point where it can skew
   statistics.

Excellent point!
--

                                Lee Hetherington
                                ilh@lcs.mit.edu
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From: jchen@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jonathan Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: URGENT! engine rpm goes up to 5000
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:55:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB



Hi, netters

	I bought a 86 VW Golf Wolfburg edition with 69000 miles on it and
	experience no problem until now.  It is a 5-spd stick.

	I wonder if someone experience the following problem, or can offer
	advices to me:

Here is what happen:
	I was merging to the I-290 with 4th gear on 4000rpm.  The other car
wouldn't let me merge in.  So I stepped on the accelerator and then merged
in and shift to 5th gear.  While I was shifting, the engine rpm ran to 5000.
I thought I probably still stepped on the gas padel. So I didn't pay attention.
later on, the traffic slowed down, so I brake a little with the brake. Once I
released the brake (I didn't touch the accelerator yet), the car want to speed
up again.  So I shifted to neutral.  Wow! 5000rpm as idle speed??? I couldn't 
believe it!.  (it was snowing here in Buffalo and there was a lot of traffic,
so I stopped it on the shoulder ... got it tow home)


I think the problem is the accelator cable got stuck somewhere.  But I have no
idea of checking it.  Can anyone tell me how?

I consult the Haynes manual (sorry, I don't have the good one ).  They say 
there will be a throttle switch, but I can't find one.  I really have no
idea now.

Can anyone give me some advices about what is or maybe going on with here?
If it is possible, I will do the job myself because I am 
in finacial trouble already.  Thanks alot!!

-Jonathan
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Fast Japanese Sports Cars
Date: 24 Nov 1992 03:46:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, thurs_j@fog.cs.odu.edu (Jason Thurston) says:

>In article <By4ysJ.3zo@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov21.220007.25756@csi.uottawa.ca> kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist)) writes:
>>>Oh, shut up and get a Honda NSX.  End of discussion.
>>                       ^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>	If you're gonna spend that much, wait a while and get a Viper.
>
>Whoa, wait a minute. I may be a little off here, but last I checked
>wasn't **ACURA** the maker of the NSX?
>						--Jason
>
hmm..guess this guy is from the USA, missed my joke posting, and does not
realize that he is about to get grilled....save it..i'll email..
DREW
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From: eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: G20 vs. Altima, Fast vs. Slow
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:57:20 GMT

In article <1e8rvnINN3c5@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 16877@leland.Stanford.EDU, underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>The real question is why buy a G20 when you could have a Maxima SE for about
>the same price?
>And if you're sold on the G20 engine - get a Stanza SE-R for about 6 grand
>less. What's a couple of doors in a car that small?
>Why anyone would buy a G20 PERIOD is beyond me.

the chassis.  unless of course you only drive 55 mph on an arrow straight
freeway and take curves 10 mph below the recommended speeds.  not to
bash the other nissans, but the g20's chassis is exceptional, even
compared to european competitors.  drive an integra then go try a g20
for maximum effect.


eliot
From: mchaffee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (REAL LIFE?!?!  HA!!)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Cadillacs (WAS: INFFINITI vs BMW)
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:28:59 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:


>>The Allante with the Northstar engine makes 60 in 6.7 seconds if I remember
>>right.  And Road&Track LOVED the handling too.....

>>Not to mention the thing has a FANTASTIC-sounding exhaust!

>Well, the Allante is already a 60k car even before the Nortstar
>engine.  How much extra will the Northstar add - it will probably put
>it into the 70k range, so for only 25k more than a Q45 you can get
>exactly the same acceleration.  Hmmm, which one would *I* buy :^)

I don't know which one *YOU* would buy, but quite frankly, if I had the choice
between an Allante and a Q45, I'd take the Allante.  If I just had $70K (if
that is in fact the price), you wouldn't find either car in my garage.  Come
on!  The Allante is a great car in a lot of ways, the Q is a good car in a lot
of ways, but neither one is worth what they cost.  If I had $70K I could afford
to blow on a car, and I needed room, you'd see me in a 750iL.  The only cars
that come close are the $125K M-B 600SEL and the non-US XJ12.  Actually though,
here's $70K worth of cars that would be a lot more fun:
	Mercedes Benz 300SEL 6.3		$20,000
	Austin-Healey 100-4			$20,000
	BMW 3.0CSi				$20,000
						-------
						$60,000

Save the other $10k for Austin-Healey parts and you're set.
Now wouldn't that feel better than a Q45 or an allante?
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From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Calling all toyota 1 ton owners
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:45:21 GMT

   I'm curious about what other toyota 1 ton pickup owners have to say about
the reliablity of these tough little trucks. Things like what how fast things
are wearing out and such.

Kris
From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: shoud there be two different licences
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:46:51 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202

rep@thor.genrad.com (Pete Peterson) writes:
>Do you know that the assholes in the Mass. Registry of Motor Vehicles now
>charge you more to renew your license if it includes a motorcycle
>endorsement? 

I didn't, but it's not their fault (or at least not the fault of more
than one or two people there).  Rate setting is done by the
legislature -- who could be legitimately called tax-happy.  I'm
impressed by the fact that if you're transferring a license from out
of state you get to pay for all of the proficiency tests that you'd
have to take to get a new license even though you don't have to take
them all (that was $70 a few years back -- $35 for the license, $20
for the driving test, and $15 for the written -- and I imagine it's
more now).  That's a pretty good racket.

When I took my MA written test the guy up front said: "Don't forget to
put your name on it.  While the state of Massachusetts can use the
money that you'd pay to take another test, you don't want to have to
pay it."  (He also said, "Keep your eyes off of other people's tests.
This test is ridiculously easy anyway."  It made me think that not
everyone in the DMV is completely incompetant -- some of them at least
know that their tests are too easy.)

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin)
Subject: Re: Experiences with Pickups
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:37:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.210851.7324@medtron.medtronic.com> barham@medtronic.COM writes:
>I am planning to buy a used full-size pickup.  I am thinking about going with
>a diesel engine.  I would like to here about good and bad experiences with
>full-size pickups, gas and diesel.
>

I had a 1983 full size Blazer diesel.  Not quite a pick-up but close.  I was
satisfied with the Detroit Diesel that GM is using in their trucks.
Performance was close to the 350 gas engine and fuel mileage was much better.
In town I generally averaged 19 mpg, while on the road it was about 23 mpg.
Big problem was the new overdrive tranny that they used in '83.  The truck ate
3 of them between Dec 85 and Jan 87, when I sold it.  I think if I were buying
another diesel I'd go with either the Dodge or the Ford.  If you do buy a
diesel, make sure that it has a water seperator installed.  The fuel injection
systems die a rather nasty death once they ingest enough water. 

Current vehicle is a 1988 Ford F250 4X4 with 460 ci and 5 spd manual.  I have
been very pleased with this truck.  So far it hasn't had any problems hauling
anything I have attempted to carry.  Only real big drawbacks are the turning
radius, I can make a u-turn in about 5 lanes and fuel economy, it gets about
10-12 mpg everywhere.  Since I only use it for hauling those things don't
bother me much at all.  

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Mike Serafin             serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com       Texas Instruments
DoD #0742  AMA #671922  HOG #                            Dallas, Texas
1967 Firebird 326              1982 Honda CM250C
1969 Barracuda Formula 340S    1993 H-D FLHS 
1988 Ford F250 4x4             1964 Cessna 310I (FOR SALE)
1991 Ford Escort GT
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From: jdawson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan A Dawson)
Subject: Clutch and braking question.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:10:25 GMT

I had a couple of questions and I was hoping I could get an answer or two here.
I learned to drive a standard when I was 15 and I always wondered if when you
press the clutch if the engine and driveshaft are completely diengaged or if 
there is still some friction between the clutch plates?

I also got a new vehicle this weekend and in the operator's manual it stated 
that when stopping the car, to apply the brakes and then right before stopping
completely to push in the clutch.  I've always pressed in the clutch before I
pressed on the brake.  Is this wrong?  It just seems to me to try to brake the
engine via the wheels (i.e. with the clutch engaged) seems odd.

Also, could someone describe what exactally is the toe/heel method of shifting
and how/what is double clutching?

Lastly, are there any good references on this stuff??  The more technical the
better!!!

Thanks, and pardon my ignorance.
-- 
Jonathan Dawson
jdawson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: satish@kumar.b30.ingr.com (Satish Ramaswamy)
Subject: Re: Uninsured Motorist Insurance
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:37:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.155219.21639@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.192039.7432@colorado.edu> panos@burton.cs.colorado.edu (Panos Tsirigotis) writes:

|>      Suppose you have a collision which is some other person's fault and his/
|> her insurance will pay up to $20k for your medical expenses.  Suppose those
|> expenses are $50k+.  You might find a lawyer willing to sue the person to
|> cover your medical expenses in excess of the $20k but you are not likely to
|> collect unless the person is very rich.  If you have uninsured/underinsured
|> motorist coverage for $100k your insurance will cover your medical expenses
|> up to $100k which are not covered by the other person's insurance.


Maybe this is a dumb question... My employer provides me the medical 
coverage. If the Uninsured Motorist coverage  covers only the medical 
expenses I guess I dont have to take it at all ...

My insurance agent told  me that if the other person doesnt 
have insurance the uninsured motorist coverage pays for the
damage to my car if I meet with an accident !!!!!!!!!

Is it true ? Am I paying for something that I dont need at all ?

|> 
|> -- 
|> Chas                         DoD #7769
|> 

thanks for any input
satish