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From: stucs203@bham.ac.uk (Bio Takeover inc.)
Subject: An exciting opportunity for Bio Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:25:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

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Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
From: holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Don't Worry
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:14:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.234423.3318@ncsu.edu>, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE) writes:
> 
>   Hey guys and gals, don't worry about the eco-hobbits, they'll probably take
> out the world themselves.  I listening to Rush Limbaugh today when he was
> again talking about the regulations that eco-hobbits incure onto nuclear
> facilities.  I think the place under discussion was Rocky Flats Nuclear
> something-or-other.  To replace a criticallity light(The red light that lights
> when there is an emergency)when on burns out required 12 people and four hours.
> However, that policy wasn't up to eco-hobbit safety standard.  So now, by
> following safety policy, it now takes at least 43 people to complete the 33-step
> process of changing a light bulb.  The electricians themselves put in 2 1/2
> hours on the actual bulb-changing, but when you add in the request forms,
> comittee meetings, proposals, reproposals, dry runs, tests, etc; a total of
> 1087.1 hours have passed.  Yes, thanks to safety regulations, the warning light
> is not operational for about a month and a half after it is reported and burned
> out.  Note, that is not 1087.1 man-hours, that is the actual time that
> progresses as this fiasco runs its course.  Don't you feel safe now? 8)
> -- 
> ----------bill the insane cultist, bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu

One of my friends has an article that details each of these steps, I'll see if
I can get it from him and post it later.

							Sincerely,
							Lieutenant Wilkes
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: Don't Worry
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:17:09 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov18.235139.21077@ncsu.edu> bjbisset@eos.ncsu.edu (BILLY JOE BISSETTE) writes:
>
>
>Scary.  I think the environmentalists may cause more damage to the earth and
>its inhabitants than the evil industrialists and Reaganites who have world
>destruction as their ultimate goal.
>

Hey, that means we have someone to compete with!  Come on people, we can
beat those darn eco-hobbits!  Get in there and spray CFCs for the
Gipper!!!!

Also, Reaganites have no monopoly on world destruction.  I am a
JellyBeanite and I resent the Reagan Administration for the
destruction of my kind.

	Jason
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks)
Subject: Re: Mainstream Vampire Music
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:56:16 GMT

In <christ.722194222@crash.cts.com> christ@crash.cts.com (Chris Trichel) writes:

>In <nudnik.721982145@camelot> nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks) writes:
>>   [ASCII bat deleted:  if you want it, email me and i'll send it to you]

>Hey! good job.. that looks pretty bitchin'!!!
>-Chris

i oughta mention that i didn't create it...  i don't know who did, either...
--
Ultimately you have no choice but to feel what you are feeling.
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SnailMail: 1312 W. Main #104 Peoria, IL USA 61606 
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: devol@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WILLIAM DEVOL)
Subject: Re: Best Vampire Movies
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 23 Nov 1992 10:27 EST  

Here's another kudo for Near Dark.  The slaughter in the biker bar was 
incredible.  Rent it, but watch it with a friend.

Fright Night was great because they took a favorite premise of mine, 
regular human(s) forced to fight evil because no one believes, and wrote 
some great characters into the story.  How about the red-headed vampire 
woman with a regular riot of fangs in her ear-to-ear mouth? Yowser, that 
was pee in your pants material.

Lost Boys was good camp.  "Michael, your one of the undead, Mom's going to 
be real mad." or something like that.

I just wish the movie 'Salem's Lot had been as down-right terrifying as the 
book was for me.

****************************************************

Friends don't let friends go to Miami University!

Bill, Ohio University, Class of 1977 
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Subject: Re: Coppula's DRACULA
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:44:06 GMT

Bunches and bunches of deleted material

> >|>   I'm pretty excited about this film but I just saw the book > 
> Yes, save your bucks, the movie was not worth the bucks I spent, and I
> only spent $4.50.  I was very disappointed with the movie......I am now
> eager to read the book, so I know exactly what kind of a hatchet job ffc
> did to it.  However, even without reading the book, the movie stunk, it
> was slow, no really cool effects, I mean a werewolf doing what he was to
> that gal, no a real big special effect......an American Werewolf in
> London had much better effects.
> 
> Oh, I hate to ask, but what in the bloody heck was Dracula doing turning
> into a werewolf?????  I just don't get it.....
>
Funny, I have no problem with a vampire assuming the form of a wolf (or even
controlling the process to halt in-between forms), the only thing I had trouble
with was Dracula turning into a swarm of rats...

BTW  I read the book two years before I saw the movie, and I loved BOTH. 
-- 
Never trust the obvious.-- "This," I said pleasantly, "is known as getting it 
on." Charlie Decker, from Stephen King's "Rage"-- "Oh, shit!" anon. wise man--
ALBATROSS!-- It's amazing what you can do, if you don't know you can't do it.
"Denn die Toten reiten schnell." passanger from Bram Stoker's "Dracula"-------
From: BIOROID@cyberweb.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Movies-- Fright Night (possible minor spoilers)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 13:20:31 PST

Re: Re: Vampire Movies-- Fright Night (possible minor spoilers)
By: jad44314 #0 @uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Janet A Dornhoff) USEnet      
 
> One of my favorite lines from that movie was the casual, "Makeup, man."
> Most people would be surprised how realistic theatre makeup can get.
> Surely one of the greatest boons to those who travel the night roads,
> along with UV-sunglasses and SPF 46+ sunscreen.  ;-) :-)

I was a makke-up artist with the studios here in Hollywood for a little over
20 years but am now semi-reitred due to bad health. As somebody who can be
considered an "expert' in the field I am not able to agree with the above
comments. There are a few 'tricks' that work,yes, but under close or sometimes
even casual inspection most are readily evident as cosmetics. Movies and t.v.
have added to this disguise myth for years (Mission Impossible). For the most
part it just aint so. Sorry 'bout that.

TOny Lane , Make-up Artist's and Hairstylists Local 706 

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: flindholm@mta.ca
Subject: Re: A Vampire's teeth; also Vampire Movies
Reply-To: flindholm@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:37:04 GMT

In article <COVIN.92Nov18155943@despair.cs.uchicago.edu>, covin@tartarus.uchicago.edu (David Covin) writes:
>In article <92322.230619JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu> Jon Leistiko
><JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>In an unrelated pseudo-thread, what did all of you people like so much
>about Fright Night I?  It seemed to me to be just another Dracula
>derivative with a made-for-TV feel.  Its sequel, on the other hand,
>took lots of twists on the vampire-in-modern-life idea, had a strong
>female main character, and followed up the end of the first movie in a
>plausible and interesting way.  I loved it.>
>Other opinions?
-
>David Covin                           covin@despair.uchicago.edu

   I didn't like Fright Night 2 quite as much as 1. While I agree that 2
was pretty good, some parts were kind of silly (the bug man for example)
  I felt that No.1 was actualy more realistic when it comes to a modern
vampire trying to maintane a low profile. The vampire was a stay at home
that acted like a good neighbor. Everyone (except Charlie) thought he
was an O.K. guy. F.N. 2 had the vampire showing herself on national T.V.
and living in a penthouse suite which had constant parties.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:24:31 EST
From: <BDA108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Mainstream Vampire Music
Distribution: na
 <christ.722194222@crash.cts.com> <nudnik.722217376@camelot>

How 'bout "Bloodletting" by Concert Blood, the first song on the album is
called "Bloodletting, the Vampire Song", they're rather dark and have that
vampire feel...  Also, Bauhaus, they've also got that dark, sound.  Or Sisters
of Mercy for the Gothic touch...
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: covin@tartarus.uchicago.edu (David Covin)
Subject: Re: A Vampire's teeth; also Vampire Movies
Organization: University of Chicago Computer Science
	<92322.230619JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:59:43 GMT

In article <92322.230619JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu> Jon Leistiko
<JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
  [ in Innocent Blood ]
>I liked the no-fangs-just-rip-their-throats-out approach
>		 to feeding - Very brutal...
  
The vampires in Near Dark also feed this way, or any way that gets
the blood out (slitting the throat with a knife was common).

In an unrelated pseudo-thread, what did all of you people like so much
about Fright Night I?  It seemed to me to be just another Dracula
derivative with a made-for-TV feel.  Its sequel, on the other hand,
took lots of twists on the vampire-in-modern-life idea, had a strong
female main character, and followed up the end of the first movie in a
plausible and interesting way.  I loved it.

Other opinions?

--
David Covin                           covin@despair.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: aw1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Andrew Wargo)
Subject: Re: vampyre girls
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:26:38 GMT

In article <By5688.Cp6@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( ) writes:
>      You asked why female vampires are always portrayed as voluptuous
>sensuous creatures.  The reason is simple.  We live in a world that has
>been created by men, with a history that has been written by men.  It is
>the same reason women in Dungeons and Dragons and other fantasy rpg's are
>always clad in little armor and would be wearing a 36-D bra if the artists
>ever bothered to give them one in the first place.  Women in fantasy, and by
>this I mean the fantasy as created largely by men, have always been idealized
>in the physical sense, while men in fantasy are permitted to be idealized in
>either the physical, moral, or existential sense.  Women are beautiful, and no
>more.  Men are handsome, but may also be stoically virtuous (women are merely
>virtuous if they are chaste) or morally beyond reproach.

I, personally, find almost all women beautiful ... Chastity doesn't, in
true sense, assume virtue...and the opposite is true.  Nicely put, Karen.

>      I didn't really mean to jump on the bandwagon here, but the question
>begs the answer.  Women vampires, as creatures of fantasy, are subject to 
>portrayal only in the form that the male fantasizers choose to give them.
>For a woman to be portrayed as anything other than an ugly hag, she must be
>given the opposite extreme.  There is no such thing as a plain, unimpressive
>and unassuming woman in fantasy.  Where a woman begins as such, she is
>invariably transformed into an object of great (formerly undiscovered)
>beauty.
>      As far as why you don't see any "women like that around here" the
>answer is equally simple.  Women like that don't spend a lot of time in the
>computer lab.  They have dates.
>                                                      Karen
>

Ah, but there is a thing such as an initially 'plain, unimpressive, and 
unassuming woman' in reality. And those are almost always the most fun,
by far the more socially developed, and a damn good time to hang out with.
...and rarely are they truly 'plain, unimpressive, and unassuming.'  It's
been my experience that they are wonderful women.  And, as an afterthought
for those of you shaking your self-involved heads, I am not locked away
in _my_ room hiding from those beautiful, intelligent women...I'm often
sought after, and quite simply enjoy seeing a beautiful woman...but I've
digressed from my point terribly.

My compliments, Karen. Well put, and timely.


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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: arneberg@lioth.cs.adfa.oz.au (Bjorn Arne Berge)
Subject: Re: Best Vampire Movies
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:50:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.113244.27174@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, modowd@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael T. O'Dowd) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov17.172342.1@acad.drake.edu> tdl001@acad.drake.edu writes:
|> >Ok, Ok, Fright Night WAS good, one of the best, but has anyone seen Pale Blood?
|> >It's one of the best contemporary Vamp movies I've seen.
|> >
|> >*Buffy*
|> >
|> 
|> Actually, I myself liked 'Blackula'. It was quite comical, yet utterly
|> stupid. If you like to laugh at pimps and hos getting bit, then check
|> this little tiddy out.
|> 
|> By the by, has anyone seen 'Children of the Night'?

Yes. (sorry, couldn't resist....;-)


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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: lbranden@ravel.udel.edu (Lisa Ca Brandenburg)
Subject: Anne Rice
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:25:59 GMT

What are your opinions of Anne Rice's fourth vampire novel, The Tale of
the Body Thief?  Just wondering.
From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Coppula's DRACULA
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:02:21 GMT
Organization: Stay Awake Software

<1992Nov16.115442.6215@cs.nott.ac.uk> rji@trellis.cs.nott.ac.uk (Rob Ingram) :
><BxnBC6.AHA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tdlg9831@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tracey Dianne Layng) writes:
>|> Jon Leistiko <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|> [Stuff Deleted]
>
>|> In response to all the vampire movies out and about at this time, especially
>|> Coppola's _Dracula_, I deicded to reread Stoker's original. In looking at the
>|> movie clips on TV, I fear that this movie is again nothing like the book.
>|> I have always wondered why people take a :classic: and then change it so it is
>|> almost unrecognizable as a movie. I mean, the structure and content of the book
>|> is what made it a classic, so why change it? I realize that some things in
>|> books cannot be adequately reproduced in movies, but I have seen a tendency to
>|> also alter those things which were perfectly filmable.
>|>  
>
>I agree. 
...

I used to think this way too.  But if you look at Stoker's original
work you'll see lots of narrations about the countryside, descriptions
of people and their expressions, detailed descriptions of Renfield's
*thoughts*, Harker's *thoughts*, Dracula's *thoughts* and memories.
Addressing detailed descriptions of peoples thoughts by acting alone or
visual effects, or even dub-over narration would be tedious and drag
on.  Reread some of the passages of Renfield thinking to himself and
then imagine how that would play on the big screen (Renfield sits there
either narrating his thoughts *yech*, or going through elaborate facial
expressions in an attempt to convey what's on his mind to the audience).

The bottom line for Hollywood is to generate a money-maker.  You do this
by appealing to a broad range of people, most of whom do not read the
classics before going to see the movie.  While I don't like it either,
it's the only way you get to see *some* good movies.  Hopefully they don't
change too much, but it will always be too much for some people.


Gordon
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: tsullivan@trentu.ca (The OTHER One True God)
Subject: Re: Mainstream Vampire Music
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:48:00 GMT

In article <92325.092431BDA108@psuvm.psu.edu>, <BDA108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>How 'bout "Bloodletting" by Concert Blood, the first song on the album is
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ACK! You mean Concrete Blonde! Jonette would be unpleased!

>called "Bloodletting, the Vampire Song", they're rather dark and have that
>vampire feel... 

    Actually, most of Bloodletting has to do with Vampyres (or the 
supernatural), including Caroline and The Sky is a Poisonous Garden. 
Another CB album, Walking in London also has a vampiric feel to (at least) 
the title track.

   Tim Sullivan
   tsullivan@trentu.ca
   cstes@blaze.trentu.ca

A Disclaimer? Yeah, and people BELIEVE what I write, too...
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: modowd@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael T. O'Dowd)
Subject: Re: How to watch FCC's Dracula!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:02:19 GMT

You really want to know how to watch this movie? Take two hits of X
and drink 3 cokes. Then go to the latest showing in digital stereo.
Sit in the 8th row and make sure you don't pee your pants.

Michael
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From: raven@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (System Ninja)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Eric the super annoying
Keywords: acient legends Summeria
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:33:06 GMT
Organization: "The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California

mcr0193@rigel.tamu.edu (Blitzkrieg)) writes:
> 
> Now for a question that actually pertains to vampires:
> 
> Does anyone know where the oldest legends of vampires originated? I've heard
> that there were vampire legends dating to ancient Egypt, but I've never read
> anything of this nature. Does anyone know?
> 
> Matt
> 
> 

I believe the oldest surviving recorded vamp legends come from Summeria.
The tale is told of the first male and female vampires, the original
incubus and succubus.

-- Raven

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: modowd@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael T. O'Dowd)
Subject: Re: OBSESSION OR JUST KIDDING?
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:05:07 GMT

In article <68lq5n#@lynx.unm.edu> haro@triton.unm.edu (..KANEDA..) writes:
>HA HA HA
>I have a friend of mine convinced that I am a vampire, the poor girl.
>A she never sees me during the day.
>Whenever she tries her protective tricks, I tell her that it's because she
>invited me into her house, and she is powerless.
>She know I hate garlic.
>I told her I live in the desert so I don't have to cross running water.
>"But you are dark complected." she says.  I tell her that it is a permanent sun burn.
>The funny thing is, she keeps telling me to bite her, so I move in and she 
>quickly moves away and gets this funny look in her eyes.
>The oter funny thing is that she BIT ME, and drew blood like a mother!
>Now, she hates the sun and all that.
>A Baptisim of Blood I guess.
>Talk about a psych job!
>
>RICK
>

Oh you selfish bastard! Why couldn't I think of that? I'm never out
during the day! FUCK!


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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: apg044@cch.coventry.ac.uk (T.Y.A.)
Subject: Re: Other vampires?
Organization: Black clothes, large knives and Napalm.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:07:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.170122.14705@serval.net.wsu.edu>, hbechtel@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H. E. Bechtel) writes:

>The one main reason why you don't hear much about real vampires...
>
>The vampire's biggest secret is that nobody truly believes in them.
>

   Hmmmm... Some friends of mine and I have had a theory about  all  this
"ways  to  kill a vamp" for a while now. It's based around a idea that if
you were  a  vampire,  wouldn't  you  spend  as  much  time  as  possible
encouraging  people to believe the *wrong* ways to kill you? After all if
you'd  lived  for  X  hundred years, wouldn't you take out some insurance
just in case you were found out? This makes our  case  for  the  "Vampire
disinformation  campaign",  all  this  sunlight  and  stakes  is rubbish!
They're out there in the sun... waiting.... :-) :-) :-)

    Then again, they see conspiracies everywhere.
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From: xorcist@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: re:Mainstream Vampire Music
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:03:13 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I thought it was kinda funny to see that Alternative Press had called
Damned Souls "Music that Anne Rice's Vampire would play at his raves to
exhause his intended victems". I wouldn't call my music anything near
rave music however, yet it's not the first time it's been compared to
something so dark before.
<X>orcist

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