From: MORRIS@PATRICK-PIMS.AF.MIL ("Jay Morris")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: My mail was here a moment ago?!
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:52:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I've got a problem with disappearing mail/folders in VMS mail.  The system guys
did some preventive maintanence one night and suddenly my mail is all screwed
up.  (No, I can't prove it was the PM and I don't know what they did.  All they
tell me is that it couldn't of affected MAIL.)  Anyway, this is what I have now
and I would like to know if I can (easily, hopefully) get it all back together
again.                                 

$ mail

MAIL> sho all

Your mail file directory is D13:[MORRIS.MAIL].
Your current mail file is D13:[MORRIS.MAIL]MAIL.MAI;1.
Your current mail folder is MAIL.
The wastebasket folder name is WASTEBASKET.
Mail file D13:[MORRIS.MAIL]MAIL.MAI;1
	contains 0 deleted message bytes.

You have 0 new messages.

You have not set a forwarding address.
Your personal name is "Wanted: Good used low-mileage TARDIS".
Your editor is TPU.
CC prompting is disabled.
Automatic copy to yourself on REPLY.
Automatic deleted message purge is enabled.
Your default print queue is NONE.
You have not specified a default print form.


MAIL> dir /folder

Listing of folders in D13:[MORRIS.MAIL]MAIL.MAI;1
     Press CTRL/C to cancel listing
MAIL

MAIL> dir mail
                                                                            MAIL
    # From                 Date         Subject

    1 PIMS4::WINS%"<COEPOW 20-JAN-1993  virus reported in PC PKzip 2.04c
    2 PIMS4::WINS%"<lee@so 20-JAN-1993  sign off
    3 PIMS4::WINS%"agate!s 20-JAN-1993  End-user on-line Motif tutorial
    4 PIMS4::WINS%"raxco!g 21-JAN-1993  DECUS library updates 1/20/93

MAIL> ex

$ d [.mail]

Directory D13:[MORRIS.MAIL]

MAIL$05A741B100050096.MAI;1
                          7/9        9-SEP-1992 09:04:02.83
MAIL$05BCA08D00050096.MAI;1
                          5/6        9-SEP-1992 11:37:01.33
MAIL$0A12647800050096.MAI;1
                          7/9       15-SEP-1992 00:01:01.98
MAIL$0A6D8A7900050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       15-SEP-1992 10:53:29.94
MAIL$0A8E397E00050096.MAI;1
                         16/18      15-SEP-1992 14:47:27.52
MAIL$0ADEACB400050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       16-SEP-1992 00:23:20.39
MAIL$0B3E10CA00050096.MAI;1
                         22/24      16-SEP-1992 11:46:10.60
MAIL$141C6FFA00050096.MAI;1
                          8/9       27-SEP-1992 18:38:07.85
MAIL$206A7EE100050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       13-OCT-1992 10:27:07.65
MAIL$20AE3E7700050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       13-OCT-1992 18:32:05.26
MAIL$2D3E35DA00050096.MAI;1
                         14/15      29-OCT-1992 18:12:52.21
MAIL$2DBB274D00050096.MAI;1
                         14/15      30-OCT-1992 09:07:15.06
MAIL$3101570B00050096.MAI;1
                          5/6        3-NOV-1992 13:07:13.29
MAIL$329BB7B700050096.MAI;1
                          5/6        5-NOV-1992 14:04:49.13
MAIL$3D35027E00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       19-NOV-1992 01:47:19.20
MAIL$49DB9CA100050096.MAI;1
                          6/6        5-DEC-1992 04:10:08.23
MAIL$6169E70F00050095.MAI;1
                          4/6       13-FEB-1992 08:51:40.71
MAIL$640D97ED00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6        7-JAN-1993 12:13:25.47
MAIL$65D88EAC00050096.MAI;1
                          8/9        9-JAN-1993 18:58:48.88
MAIL$68617CDA00050096.MAI;1
                          8/9       13-JAN-1993 00:24:03.92
MAIL$6A5999AB00050096.MAI;1
                         13/15      15-JAN-1993 12:32:37.08
MAIL$6BA09FB300050096.MAI;1
                         13/15      17-JAN-1993 03:33:32.61
MAIL$6C9C51A500050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       18-JAN-1993 09:35:14.87
MAIL$6C9FE6CA00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       18-JAN-1993 10:00:53.56
MAIL$6CCF423100050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       18-JAN-1993 15:39:53.23
MAIL$6D1D10E000050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       19-JAN-1993 00:56:51.33
MAIL$6D1EFEE400050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       19-JAN-1993 01:10:40.09
MAIL$6D512DAD00050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       19-JAN-1993 07:09:53.93
MAIL$6D588FF800050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       19-JAN-1993 08:02:44.78
MAIL$6D77AC2C00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       19-JAN-1993 11:45:26.56
MAIL$6DE49F7900050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 00:45:20.32
MAIL$6DE55D4100050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 00:50:38.72
MAIL$6DE7D46B00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 01:08:17.65
MAIL$6DEA206B00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 01:24:44.74
MAIL$6DEB351C00050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 01:32:28.42
MAIL$6DEB499A00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 01:33:02.75
MAIL$6DEB5A2A00050096.MAI;1
                          8/9       20-JAN-1993 01:33:30.54
MAIL$6DEE39D400050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 01:54:04.78
MAIL$6DEE3E7300050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 01:54:12.52
MAIL$6DEECD2900050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 01:58:11.95
MAIL$6DF09ACB00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 02:11:08.19
MAIL$6DF568E800050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 02:45:30.23
MAIL$6DF56EF700050096.MAI;1
                          8/9       20-JAN-1993 02:45:40.39
MAIL$6DF6732300050096.MAI;1
                         12/12      20-JAN-1993 02:52:56.89
MAIL$6DF8F86000050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 03:10:59.44
MAIL$6DFDC2E200050096.MAI;1
                         10/12      20-JAN-1993 03:45:17.21
MAIL$6DFEFAE700050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 03:54:00.65
MAIL$6DFF13E200050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 03:54:43.08
MAIL$6E049DB700050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 04:34:21.30
MAIL$6E05A01900050096.MAI;1
                         50/51      20-JAN-1993 04:41:34.79
MAIL$6E05C1EF00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 04:42:31.56
MAIL$6E05F0A900050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 04:43:49.95
MAIL$6E06183B00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 04:44:56.34
MAIL$6E075BB700050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 04:53:59.04
MAIL$6E07A06E00050096.MAI;1
                          8/9       20-JAN-1993 04:55:54.83
MAIL$6E0EF40500050096.MAI;1
                          9/9       20-JAN-1993 05:48:21.07
MAIL$6E0F1DE000050096.MAI;1
                          7/9       20-JAN-1993 05:49:31.26
MAIL$6E132BDF00050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 06:18:32.72
MAIL$6E1363C800050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 06:20:06.55
MAIL$6E16A58500050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 06:43:25.32
MAIL$6E16BB5F00050096.MAI;1
                          7/9       20-JAN-1993 06:44:02.08
MAIL$6E184B0E00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 06:55:13.06
MAIL$6E2241CB00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 08:06:32.09
MAIL$6E22625E00050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 08:07:26.64
MAIL$6E228B2600050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 08:08:35.06
MAIL$6E2B634C00050096.MAI;1
                         10/12      20-JAN-1993 09:11:53.78
MAIL$6E2B6E2200050096.MAI;1
                          8/9       20-JAN-1993 09:12:11.83
MAIL$6E3466E500050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 10:16:25.70
MAIL$6E34C84100050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 10:19:08.55
MAIL$6E34D8F200050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 10:19:36.52
MAIL$6E358E2E00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 10:24:40.57
MAIL$6E3F5FFC00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 11:34:58.04
MAIL$6E40099600050096.MAI;1
                          5/6       20-JAN-1993 11:39:42.57
MAIL$6E4010BB00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 11:39:54.55
MAIL$6E4AAA3F00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 12:55:47.68
MAIL$6E4B78FD00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 13:01:33.94
MAIL$6E4C213300050096.MAI;1
                         15/15      20-JAN-1993 13:06:16.16
MAIL$6E6277BC00050096.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JAN-1993 15:46:10.39
MAIL$6E9A789B00050096.MAI;1
                          6/6       20-JAN-1993 22:27:03.49
MAIL$6EA96FDB00050096.MAI;1
                         31/33      21-JAN-1993 00:14:11.29
MAIL$75F9250200050095.MAI;1
                          6/6       10-MAR-1992 12:47:25.91
MAIL$7B6007AD00050095.MAI;1
                         10/12      17-MAR-1992 09:46:31.65
MAIL$874FECEE00050095.MAI;1
                          6/6        1-APR-1992 14:21:27.84
MAIL$92E7BC9200050095.MAI;1
                         10/12      16-APR-1992 08:25:53.00
MAIL$A30DF22E00050095.MAI;1
                          4/6        6-MAY-1992 21:39:42.48
MAIL$C5FBA47900050095.MAI;1
                          4/6       20-JUN-1992 08:26:51.89
MAIL$CBBEFFEC00050095.MAI;1
                          4/6       27-JUN-1992 16:27:52.91
MAIL$D311DFAA00050095.MAI;1
                          5/6        7-JUL-1992 00:08:45.40
MAIL$D3D0599900050095.MAI;1
                          5/6        7-JUL-1992 22:52:14.11
MAIL$DE88D54200050095.MAI;1
                          6/6       21-JUL-1992 14:18:00.59
MAIL$DEAF4F4500050095.MAI;1
                          4/6       21-JUL-1992 18:53:26.18
MAIL$DEBF225700050095.MAI;1
                          5/6       21-JUL-1992 20:46:42.75
MAIL$DED1E92F00050095.MAI;1
                          8/9       21-JUL-1992 23:01:07.29
MAIL$DFCB620C00050095.MAI;1
                          5/6       23-JUL-1992 04:46:54.77
MAIL$F59E793500050095.MAI;1
                          4/6       19-AUG-1992 23:20:51.82
MAIL$F6D8AB9400050095.MAI;1
                          9/9       21-AUG-1992 12:49:58.28
MAIL.MAI;1               60/60      20-JAN-1993 22:04:23.49
MAIL.OLD;1               30/30      20-JAN-1993 21:22:15.94
MAIL_2F0F_COMPRESS.TMP;1
                          3/3       14-JAN-1993 22:39:50.96
MAIL_469B_COMPRESS.TMP;1
                          3/3       22-DEC-1992 12:21:52.35


The ones dated 20-JAN-93 were new ones I hadn't read yet.  I would think a
mail.mai file of 60 blocks would contain more than 4 messages.  It also looks
like there were problems with a couple of COMPRESSes, since old .TMP files were
left over BUT these are from before the problem.

What it all comes down to I guess is that at this point I don't really care how
I got here, but how I can get back.   Thanks!

PS. While I'm talking mail, what are the minimum privs required for using mail?
I've looked in the wall, but couldn't find this.

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Jay E. Morris                
morris@patrick-pims.af.mil   jmorris@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil 
DSN: 467-7454                
CIS:73007,3107