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From: jec@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Missing subject header
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 07:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: jec@zurich.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center


I would exchange an appartment in Paris, France, for one in Zurich, Switzerland,
starting in April 1993 and for a period of 6 months, 1 year or even 1 1/2 year.
If you are interested or if you know an exchange organisation that could
help me, thank you for answering to jec@zurich.ibm.com

J.
From: cmbr01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Zuliana: NYC -> Bogota: info. required.
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:31:42 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Hi.
Does anyone know of the Venezuelan airline called Zuliana ?

What is is like? - good, bad etc.

In particular, I am considering flying from the USA to Bogota
on this airline. Does anyone know if I can obtain a flight from
NYC - > Bogota with Zuliana and of the flight availability in the 2nd
week of January?

Thx. J.
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From: kk1m+@cs.cmu.edu (Kyoung Kim)
Subject: Re: Transport from Kimpo Arpt to Seoul
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:53:05 GMT

In article <jf.47@pacnet.wesleyan.edu> jf@pacnet.wesleyan.edu (JOHN FINN) writes:
>
>
>Hi:
>
>My wife and I are travelling to Seoul later this month. Does anyone know 
>what sort of transportation is available from Kimpo to the Inter 
>Continental Hotel--e.g., is there a hotel bus service, or public bus 
>service, etc.?
>
>Thanks,
>
>John E. Finn
>Wesleyan University
> 

John,
I couldn't send this to your e-mail address.

The inter continental hotel is one of the finest hotels in Seoul.  It should
provide a transportation between Kimpo airport and the hotel.
If it doesn't provide a transportation, there are always buses and taxies.
Buses will come quite frequently though I am not sure if any goes to
the Inter Continental Hotel.  If the hotel does not
provide any tranportation, I suggest you to take a taxi.
A regular (medium size) taxi will cost 10 to 12 dollars ( 8,000 to 10,000 Won)
from the airport to the hotel and up to 4 people can ride in the taxi.
(A luxury (?) taxi will cost more.)   To ride in a regular taxi,
stand behind the mass of korean people at a taxi stop.
It will be nice to give some tip to a taxi driver if his/her service is good.
Last summer, I took a taxi to go home from
the airport and it cost me 10 dollars including tips.  Some taxi drivers
might try to overcharge you if you look like a rich foreigner ;-) although
you are only supposed to pay according to the fee shown on the automatic
meter inside a taxi.

I hope you and your wife have a pleasant trip to Seoul.



-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Kyoung Hung Kim (Harry)		kk1m@isl1.ri.cmu.edu
Robotics Institute		Office (412) 268-8780, Lab 268-7811
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA 15213
-- 
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Kyoung Hung Kim (Harry)		kk1m@isl1.ri.cmu.edu
Robotics Institute		Office (412) 268-8780, Lab 268-7811
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA 15213
From: dleslie@phakt.usc.edu (David Leslie)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hotels in Florida Keys area...
Date: 3 Jan 1993 19:22:38 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article mk69+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Knapp) writes:
>Doesn't anyone get annoyed by these type of requests?  I mean, all you
>have to do is go to a local library, or AAA office, or even call an 800
>number to get this kind of information.  Are these poeple just stupid or
>lazy.  
>my opinion is that this net should not be cluttered with this type of
>info requests that asks for information readily available elsewhere (i
>mean key west is not exactly isolated!!!)
>
>i will shut up now.
>mark

What exactly do you think this newsgroup is for, if not to request
information? Further, IMO, Triple A or travel books which are apt
to be out of date are no substitute for someones personal experience.

 /  Amiga  ///    |  U.S.C. Trojans  | O Bar  | David Leslie        \
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From: Mike_Treloar@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Treloar)
Subject: Re: Vienna
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 07:10:16 GMT

        What a great reply. That is exactly the type of info that I was
looking for.
        Thanks very much.

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From: michalj@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Jankowski)
Subject: Re: Train from Europe to Moscow
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:31:15 GMT

>>>>> On Tuesday, 22 Dec 1992 08:19:15 MST, <ATJMO@ASUACAD.BITNET> said:

ATJMO> As far as I know, there is a train from Berlin to Beijing.

No, there isn't.

ATJMO> And, yes, I believe the train does go through Moscow.

You have to *change trains* in Moscow.

I'll try to find and post a schedule for this route.

  Michal Jankowski
From: pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: St. Martin hotel
Date: 22 Dec 92 03:49:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


I've made reservations to go to St. Martin in late February and am
staying at a relatively new hotel called the Mont Vernon.  Has anyone
heard of or stayed at this place?

--Peter K.
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Subject: Athens Greece (need advice/insight)
From: cpbuehrer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:13:44 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

Two months ago, I flew to Europe for the first time...to meet my penpal for the
first time (we've been writing for over eleven years)...

He lives in Athens, Greece...and to make a long story short, I had a fantastic
time over there!  I'm considering flying back again this summer...but I'd like
to stay longer than three weeks (which was how long my November trip lasted).

I'd like to try to get a job there (to pay for the trip and to pay for rent,
etc.).  If any of you out there have done this, can you please tell me your
stories so I can get an idea of what I should and shouldn't do?

Possibly important personal characteristics, etc:
      - I'm a 23 year old male
      - US citizen w/ valid passport
      - I speak English and Spanish...but *not* much Greek
      - I have a Bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering (minor in Physics)
      - date of departure (from the US) is currently anywhere between
           May and August!

If I can get a permanent engineering type job over there, I'd love to stay for
years!  But somehow I have the feeling I'd never find such employment.  What I
*do* expect to be able to find is a job teaching english, or a job being a 
waiter, etc...

For a short term trip (oh, say, less than 4 months) I'd be able to stay with my
penpal in his (parents') house in Nea Filadelfia.  For anything longer than
that, I'd *HATE* to impose on them!

advTHANKSance!
--Dennis

NOTE: I do *not* want to get employed on any islands...or in any city other
      than Athens.  I'd really like to be able to get to/from work/home in
      less than 45 mins (if I had to take the Metro).
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: batten@kodak.kodak.com (James Batten)
Subject: Re: Expiring Passport
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 21:49:01 GMT

Just wanted to add my experience. A few years back my family planned a trip to
Korea... My children and I went to the local court house and filled out the 
needed paperwork, they then sent it to NYC for processing. Two weeks later
it was in our mailbox..

   My wife on the other hand presented a special problem, she was a soon to be
US citizen. We had purchased our tickets so we would have close to a month 
after the great event to get all the needed paperwork. Of course the obvious
happened, the ceremony was rescheduled for just three days prior to flight 
time.

   We went to the court house right after she was sworn in and asked what
could be done, they filled out the paperwork, put it into a sealed
envalope, called someone at NYC.. told us to go to the postoffice, purchase
two express mail envalopes, address one to the person they had talked to in
care of the NYC office, the other to our home, then mail the paperwork and
return envelope out. We got her passport in less than 48 hours.

  As one poster said, these people CAN be jerks... but then again. 

Try just talking to the clerks and see what can be done. One thing they told 
us was that the winter months are rather slow as far as passport requests go
so they tend to get processed faster..

best of luck.
From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Discount coupon books
Date: 30 Dec 1992 15:07:58 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: koala.zoo.cs.yale.edu
Keywords: hotels, restaurants, rental car discounts

In article <75997@apple.apple.COM> sac@Apple.COM (Steve Cisler) writes:
>I was somewhat skeptical when my wife bought this one-inch thick
>coupon book called 'entertainment '93' because we don't eat out
>all that often, and it seemed to be mainly a bunch of 2-for-1
>deals on restaurants around San Jose, California. However, I do
>travel quite a lot, and I found that the other coupons for hotels,
>rental cars,and even a couple of airlines were quite useful. If
>you are travelling very cheaply, this is not for you. If you
>use credit cards to pay for lodging, then the deals in this
>book (and there are editions for dozens of cities around the U.S.
>and some other countries) will be worth considering.  the 50% off
>hundreds of different hotels is where you can pay for the book in
>one night. While we would not have rented a condo for $150/night
>in Kona, Hawaii, our family of four found $75/night to be worth it
>for the amenities. I've also stayed in Washington, DC hotels and
>motels outside of urban areas using this book.  Since hotel occupancy
>rates s are pretty low these days, you may be able to find other deals
>that match this.

Discount for Accommodation:
It should be noted that when you try to use the Entertainment book to
reserve accommodation (well, at least for the several ones I have
tried), they won't give you the entertainment discount unless their
occupanycy is below a certain percentage or they may have black
out dates (when occupancy is expected to be high). I also came 
across a similar book called "Celebrity '93" in Manhattan, but it
contains no coupon for air-tickets.

Discount for Restaurants:
As for the coupons for the restaurants, it really depends. The 
'92 Entertainment book I got for New Haven is not really useful.
I found quite a few of the listed restaurants closed. However,
the one for Manhattan was quite good. There are one or two 
restaurants I may go back again (even without a discount).
I guess it really depends on which book (for which city) you have
got.

Discount for Other Things:
For car rental, if you do not already have AAA discount, or other
special discounts, you can get a discount because you are an 
Entertainment member. They also have other (e.g. upgrade) discount,
but usually you need to be renting something from Economy to mid-size
to use these other discounts. The discounts for movie tickets are
a good deal. You can get the tickets for about $4.5. Over here, at the
counter, the tickets usually costs from $6.75 to $7.5.  Last year ('92)'s
Manhattan even contians discount coupons for buying tickets for the Knicks
and baseball tickets at the Yankee Stadium.  

>
>Entertainment Editions has an 800 number where you can order the
>different ones at a discount.  800 374 4464.
>Steve Cisler
From: Marcus L. Endicott <mendicott@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: 02 Jan 93 10:07 PST
Subject: Ireland: Alternative, New Age, or
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1460300134:000:157
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mendicott    Jan  2 10:07:00 1993


What in Ireland, north or south, is there that is alternative, "New Age,"
or Green ???  Please email mail a copy of any response to ME
mendicott@igc.apc.org

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins)
Subject: Re: Expiring Passport
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:58:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.181752.17280@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>lm00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Louise B. McFeaters) wrote: 
>->Yes, mine is soon (May) going to expire, and I have to use it in Jan.
>->and in Mar. How do you get a new passport (USA) quickly? Thanks for
>->responding.
>
>you go to the local passport office with ticket showing impending
>departure in hand.  they can turn your new passport around in 24
>hours.

Just so you know....YES they can do this but it will be a nightmare:

I did this for my son (a trip on 10 days notice) and I waited 2 hours
to spend 5 minutes with an agent to simply get an appointment for another day.
he said to come before appointment time for faster service. Then on 
appointment day, I come early to get told to wait until the appointment
time. I then waited 2 more hours (after the 'appointed' time) for a 10 minute 
certification process to have them process. Then I waited another hour just 
to pick it up. All this was on 3 separate days, three separate trips to the 
passport office. It seemed faster if you went early morning of the day 
before departure (they do try to shortcut it somewhat for those folks). 
Check what they give you BEFORE you leave the agent - many employees made
stupid and careless errors on the passports.

The hired help was largely rude, arrogant and obnoxious to the point of 
insult. They also gave conflicting advice and often made terrible errors,
i.e. wrong name or birthdate on the new passport. BTW, I speak of those in 
the NYC office in Rockefeller office.

My SO called the passport office in Paterson NJ and they demanded she bring 
my son's drivers license even though she repeatedly said he was only 10 
years old.

If at all possible, do it by mail - you'll thank your lucky stars.

If you must go in person, bring PLENTY of documentation, bring $100 or so
in cold cash, bring 2 clear identical photos of the individual (they must
be a certain size etc), bring reading material or a walkman (to while away
the hours) and bring a chair - there is no place to sit while you spend
many hours on line. Call ahead to get the forms you need to bring BEFORE 
you go. Those forms have all the instructions you need to know BEFORE you go.

Grrrr....our government at work...

Joe
joec@morgan.com



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From: perry@lheavx.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brendan Perry)
Subject: Re: Any cheap place to stay in Amsterdam?
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:37:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.003920.12804@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu>,
las@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu wrote:
> 
>   I'm interested in hearing from anyone regarding cheap
> places (Hotels ...) to stay in Amsterdam. I will be travelling
> there this December. 
> Thanks in advance.
>                --Sal

I stayed at the International Student House on Keizergracht 15, Centrum. It
was 28 Hfl/day with breakfast for a quad room, clean showers at the end of
the hall and a great location, 10 minute walk with luggage from Centraal
Station. We passed by tons of hotels, as we were 'shopping' for a good one,
and they all seemed nice in the Centrum district, though we settled on ISH
because it was cheaper than a 'hotel' (which start at 50 Hfl/day but have
baths). WHatever you do, unless you want to experience Woodstock The Next
Generation, avoid the 'Sleep In'. It's a backpacker,hippie-like atmosphere
and tons of youngsters in the 16-24 range, which is fine,fine fine, but I
wanted to get some sleep and it's noisy and dirty, with 200+ people in a
room full of bunkbeds, but it's 13 Hfl/day including a locker. Try the
Christian 'Eben Hauzer' for a mellow, quiet, cheap (15 Hfl) night. They 
aren't too pushy about religion, but they do have a 12:30am curfew, which
stinks in Amsterdam for 'partiers' (most clubs don't even start getting
busy 'til 12). I liked most of the advice in a book called 'The Real Guide
to Amsterdam'. It was quirky but accurate and candid as well, though they
had too much praise for 'Sleep In' if ya ask me...

Cheers,
Brendan
From: beninsd@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: tips for 2 places
Date: 23 Dec 92 11:33:40 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

Question:  I will be traveling to Houston and Syracuse, NY in the next two
months--any info on either--or both--about cultural choices, restaurants, 
etc. would be greatly appreciated.  Many thanks and happy holida
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Subject: Question on excursions from Hong Kong to Guilin
Reply-To: citrin@soglio.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:42:17 GMT

Anybody know if organized excursions are available from Hong Kong to
Guilin?  Anybody out there gone on one?  If not, how easy is it to do oneself?

Thanks for the help.

Wayne
-----------
Wayne Citrin   citrin@soglio.colorado.edu   citrin@cs.colorado.edu
From: lori@drutx.ATT.COM (HonickL)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: bed and breakfast in Monterey, CA
Keywords: B&B in Monterey
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:50:18 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

I will be in San Francisco in the beginning of January, and wanted to 
take a trip to Monterey, and spend one night. Any recommendations for 
lodgings would be greatly appreciated, especially interested in B&B's. 

Thanks, 
Lori Honick 
AT&T Bell Laboratories 
lori@drutx.att.com
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- CapeVerde
Date: 29 Dec 1992 14:47:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Cape Verde
============================================================
Cape Verde - Consular Information Sheet
 December 24, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located on Rua Hoji Ya Henda 
81 in the capital city of Praia.  The mailing address is C.P. 201.  
The telephone numbers are (283) 61-56-16/17.

Country Description:  The Republic of Cape Verde consists of 
several rugged volcanic islands off the west coast of Africa.  The 
climate is dry and temperate.  Tourist facilities are minimal.

Entry Requirement:  A passport and visa are required.  Evidence of 
immunization against yellow fever (if arriving from an infected 
area), is required.  For further information concerning entry 
requirements for Cape Verde, travelers can contact the Embassy of 
the Republic of Cape Verde, 3415 Massachusetts Avenue N.W., 
Washington D.C. 20007, telephone (202) 965-6820, or the Consulate 
General of Cape Verde in Boston. 

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities in Cape Verde are extremely 
limited.  Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment 
for health care services.  U.S. medical insurance is not always 
valid outside the United States.  Supplemental medical insurance 
with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful. Information 
on health matters can be obtained from the Centers for Disease 
Control's international travelers hotline, telephone (404) 332-4559.

Information on Crime:  Some petty thievery can be expected.  Useful 
information on safeguarding valuables and protecting personal 
security while traveling abroad is provided in the Department of 
State pamphlet, "A Safe Trip Abroad," available from the 
Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, 
Washington, D.C. 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strictly enforced.   Convicted offenders can 
expect jail sentences and fines.  

Tips for Travelers:  The Department of State publication "Tips for 
Travelers to Sub-Saharan Africa" is available from the 
Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, 
Washington, D.C. 20402.  It contains general information on travel 
in the region.

Registration:  U.S. citizens who register at the U.S. Embassy in 
Praia can obtain updated information on travel and security in Cape 
Verde.

 No. 92-134


Distribution:
  >INTERNET:travel-advisories@stolaf.edu.

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From: salimk@batpa7.bnr.ca (Salim Khan)
Subject: Re: Grand canyon travels and Phoenix Arizona sights
Keywords: Phoenix,Grand Canyon
Reply-To: salimk@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Inc. Norcross, Georgia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 19:42:43 GMT

In article <1h53paINNg0g@agate.berkeley.edu>,
elwood@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Elisha Polomski) writes:
> 
> If I end up not going to the Canyon(I'd be driving from Phoenix!(long drive))
> 
> Can you reccommend some scenic 10-15 mile hikes within 3 hours drive
of Phoenix??
> I've heard something vague about superstition mts........
> 
> 
> -thanks!
> 
> elwood@cea.berkeley.edu
> 
> 

Copper canyon and Black Canyon are magnificent with certain
breath-taking views.Check with Arizona Tourism Office for details. I've
never been there in winter, but in spring and fall they offer some
unspoiled (non-commercialized) scenery. Also some areas towards Kingman,
and Flagstaff might provide some interesting opportunities. Good Luck.  
Salim Khan      

" I do believe that my employer, has nothing to do with, nor
shares, my opinions."
From: ajcueva@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (Al Cuevas)
Subject: Re: Info wanted on things to do in Cancun
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:51:47 GMT
Summary: take a trip or two

In article <8235@news.duke.edu>, gold@duke.edu (Jeff Gold 101 Gross Chem) writes:
> In article <1992Dec18.161519.1@evax.gdc.com> tracy@evax.gdc.com writes:
> >I'm planning a trip to Cancun in February 15th. I'd appreciate any info
> >on things to do, places to visit, places to eat, etc.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Jim Tracy   (tracy@evax.gdc.com)
> 
> I was just there in November.  The best part for us was snorkelling.
I agree.  Cozumel is one of the ten best dive spots in the world (IMHO).

> Mujeres the next.  Both were great.  Stay away from the organized or
> escorted trips.  You can do most things on your own and save a lot of
> money.  
One of the best things we did while in Cancun was take an organized 
bus trip to Chitetza (sp).  It is about 125 miles from Cancun on a
two lane road which goes through 17 villages.  The bus ride took
about 3 hours each way, included lunch and a show and a stop on the
way back.  They gave us a Myan history lesson in both English and
Spanish.  By the time we got to the ruins, we knew what to look for
and had some idea of why things were the way they were.

This is the type of stuff that you just don't get when doing it on
your own.  Also, by the time we would have rented a car and drove
and paid addmission and food (where do you stop? where is a good
place to eat? There are no McDonald's) the price was the same and
they did the driving.

Keep your options open and enjoy...

Al Cuevas
Pac Bell
510-823-1498



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From: jec@watson.ibm.com (Jean Cherbonnier)
Subject: Paris-Zurich apprt exchange
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:55:07 GMT
Reply-To: jec@pilatus.zurich.ibm.com (Jean Cherbonnier)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center


I would exchange an appartment in Paris, France, for one in
Zurich, Switzerland, for a period of 6, 12 or even 18 months.
If you are interested, or if you know about an exchange organization
that could help me, please send me a message at jec@zurich.ibm.com

Thanks.

Jean.
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