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From: EFS6ET1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: DOOL: Will I survive Julie's final "Days?"
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:36:30 PST

In article <1993Jan22.202827.23202@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, on 22 Jan 93 20:28:27 GMT,
bab2@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (barter,elizabeth) writes:

>Raz - I'm with you!  When Julie said she'd gotten a letter
>from Doug I thought "WAHHHHH!  It's the beginning of the end!"
>Just to inject a positive note - Susan looked absolutely smashing
>in that white suit.  I remember she's worn it before and it's
>always been one of my favorites.  I hope they let her keep the
>clothes at least?
>
>cranberry

Hi Cranberry,
Yes, I agree, I think she did look smashing in that white suit.
(She's supposed to look gorgeous on the 28th, the costume designer
picked out something to (in his words) make her look like a
"leading lady.")

And as you can probably tell from that, the costume designer is one
of the nicest people in the world and he also happens to adore SSH.
So... officially no one leaves with clothes because the show bought
them, so the show owns them.  But... well... just perhaps... maybe...
off the record, he let SSH have a few things.  (Come on, who else
on the show could ever wear what Julie had already worn anyway?
If Gnarly showed up in a Julie outfit there'd be a revolt and Marlena
hasn't the good taste or style in clothing.)
*Razzie, who's counting down, two more SSH shows to go... (Jan. 26 & 28)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: casper@tsoft.net (Johanne Kaminski)
Subject: Re: GL: Future speculation (SPOILER)
Organization: TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:10:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.224730.29292@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> lizb@banyan.com writes:
>In article <1jrcqkINNr11@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN) writes:
>>In article <14282@pogo.wv.tek.com>,
>>debraa@poof.WV.TEK.COM (Debra Aubrey;685-3679;63-356;;poof) writes:
>>>
>>>In article <1993Jan21.204605.4575@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu>,
>>>lizb@banyan.com writes:
>>>|> Little spoilers:
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|>
>>>|> I read in one of the rags (SOD maybe?  The Feb. preview?) that Ed will
>>>|> seek comfort from "a surprising source."
>>>|>
>>>|> How about Jenna???
>>>|>
>>>|> Liz

For a *truly* surprising source, (and a bit far fetched too) how about:
  Gilly:  she is having some marital troubles
  Blake:  after all, they aren't related, and she and Ross are fighting.
  Mindy:  she's all alone out there
  Nadene: Maybe Billy can find out she isn't preggers
  Julie:  now, that would be a little sickning
  Eve;    she and Nick could get in a fight, and after a long day at work 
      she and Ed can find comfort with each other (BORING)
  Lewis Oil's Secretary:  just a thought

Johanne
From: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Character glut
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:36:14 GMT
Reply-To: bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan)
Organization: Chevron CEPS

In article <2B6094D5.17864@news.service.uci.edu>, 
llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald) writes:
> From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
> Subject: Re: AMC: Character glut
> Date: 23 Jan 93 00:44:05 GMT
> Organization: University of California, Irvine
> 
> In article <1993Jan22.215201.17621@nntpserver.chevron.com> 
> bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com (Beverly M. Zalan) writes:
> >In article <C19pC2.JnI@spss.com>, ilene@spss.com (Ilene France) writes:
> >> 
> >>   Wow, this is a blast from the past.  Betsy Kennicott was on
> >>   in my early days of AMC watching.  Now that you've reminded me
> >>   of her, I can't remember much about her.  Wasn't she involved
> >>   in a love triangle of some sort?  (That's not saying much.  All
> >>   characters are involved in love triangles.)  Who was the man?  Who
> >>   was the other woman?  Was it Devon?  Brooke maybe??  Was she
> >>   in love with Wally?  I can't
> >>   seem to remember this storyline at all.  Can some Fountain of
> >>   AMC Wisdom please refresh my memory?  (I do remember that
> >>   she was a nurse.)
> >> 
> >Betsy had the distinction of STEALING Jeff Martin from Erica.
> >
> Wasn't that Mary Kennicott?


I stand corrected.  Boy, all those Kennicotts just blend together...
Remember Dan K, the stud man (NOT!) whose high school affair with Brooke 
drove Devon into the arms of Wally?  (to prove she was just as much a WOMEN 
as the Brookester.....)


Beverly M. Zalan
bebmza@sru001.chvpkh.chevron.com
From: marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Amanda T Marlowe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Character glut
Date: 24 Jan 1993 18:32:20 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

In article <C19pC2.JnI@spss.com> ilene@spss.com (Ilene France) writes:
>
>  Wow, this is a blast from the past.  Betsy Kennicott was on
>  in my early days of AMC watching.  Now that you've reminded me
>  of her, I can't remember much about her.  Wasn't she involved
>  in a love triangle of some sort?  (That's not saying much.  All
>  characters are involved in love triangles.)  Who was the man?  Who
>  was the other woman?  Was it Devon?  Brooke maybe??  Was she
>  in love with Wally?  I can't

I remember this!! This was just after I first started watching AMC...
Betsy was taking care of Wally and Devon's little girl (The one who
vacuumed up Mark's cocaine in a later storyline...) or maybe it was
Devon she was taking care of, I'm not sure...
And she and Wally fell in love. Devon was in the "clinic" having
become an alcoholic after an affair with Sean Cuddahy or something...
And I remember her talking to Wally saying how she's always
"good old Besty" and everybody's pal, but nobody falls in love with
her. I think she was sitting on a swing at the time. It made a big 
impression on me 'cause I was doing the miserable adolescent thing at 
the time and really felt for her, since I felt that way too...

I don't remember what happened after that, though... Summer must
have ended :)

>  seem to remember this storyline at all.  Can some Fountain of
>  AMC Wisdom please refresh my memory?  (I do remember that
>  she was a nurse.)
>
>
>  --Ilene
>    ilene@spss.com

Amanda


-- 
**** Amanda Marlowe		"Son, Son, I admire your sincerity. Always be
     marlowe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu   sincere whether you mean it or not." 
****                               -The Reluctant Cannibal, by Flanders&Swann
From: johnson@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Karen Johnson Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:TAN: Wannstedt (was: Inauguration Day)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:46:43 -0600
Organization: U. Texas Center for Space Research
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: emx.cc.utexas.edu

In article <C17y32.8Gv@ddsw1.mcs.com> starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders) writes:
>Hey, Karen: if Wannstedt doesn't get the Bears
>to the Super Bowl this year, we're going to ship
>his sorry ass back to Texas, post-haste. ;)
>

His "sorry" ass????  Man, you oughta be countin' your blessings up
there!  If you don't want him, send him back ANY DAY!!!!  We'll
take him! 

Karen

P.S.  Besides being a helluva defense coordinator, he's cute! :-)

-- 
        karen@louise.ae.utexas.edu   -or-   johnson@emx.utexas.edu
From: IRPROB@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Idiotic Plot Twists
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:08:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I guess I'm going to buck the trend here, but the only thing to me more
idiotic than Tad's amnesia and near-misses with his loved ones is the
"story" (using the term loosely) of Jack and his mystery woman.  If there
could *possibly* be *anything* more ludicrous than Jack and his mystery
woman, it would have to be Erica *pretending* to have amnesia and not only
fooling Dimwit and Mona, but the doctors!  And if it's that easy for Erica
to get out of Oakhaven, why did Dixie have so much trouble?  The PV
planning and zoning committee must not be very good, either.  Is Oakhaven
right next-door to the cottage on the Wildwind Estate?  Erica had about a
twenty-second lead on Dimwit and Edmund, but managed to make it to the cottage
(without a car) in about the same time as it took Dimwit & Edmund (I assume
*they* had at least one car between them).  Oh, I forgot, they're *really*
slow - even Hellga outran them!  Erica thinking she might know Dimitri from
a marching band?  This is their idea of comedy?!  (She should have said he
looked like the Beast in _Beauty and the_, but I guess she and Charlie didn't
go see _B & B_ when they were dating.)  If these storylines are how the
writers think they'll get Lucci an Emmy, she doesn't need any enemies!

On the plus side, I thought the scenes with Adam and Hayley were *great*!
She really told him how she felt, and I think Adam finally got a clue as to
what he had done to her in the past.  Unfortunately, as usual, Pops will
return to his old ways.

Anybody know if we've seen the last of Helen Marsh?

Rob. Taylor
irprob@mizzou1.missouri.edu
From: v076r95v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (The Nature Boy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: On Sammy again..
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Sorry to bring this up again, but this HAD to be mentioned.  Sammy is
way too old for her age.  Supposedly this kid was somewhere between the age of
8-10, but now she has to be at least 14-16..the girl has a huge chest for
Christ sakes!  geez...you think the writers would get someone a
bit..underdeveloped?  Besides, this actress acted like if she was sweet and
innocent (when John and Marlena took her to the hospital). "John, won't you go
with us? It will be like old times" (flashes her cute eyes) GAG!!!  She's
really making me sick.  Someone kill her off before I do...:)
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:54:10 EST
From: <AKW102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Tad and Dixie

I really, really hope that Tad and Dixie don't live "happily ever after."
Dixie is way too boring for Tad.  He needs someone much more exciting- like
Gloria.  As a couple, they would be absolutely dynamite!  Any other
suggestions?
                                                      amy
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: alangend@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrea D Langenderfer)
Subject: Re: SB: my early memories
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:37:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.174047.16008@engage.pko.dec.com> noonan@tolkin.enet.dec.com (Enoperiod) writes:
>
>
>
>In article   <93020.152002C31995EC@wuvmd.wustl.edu>,         elana <C31995EC@WUVMD> writes...
>>I am a "Young and the Restless" groupie - while checking the gossip on
>>the newsgroup, I noticed people commenting about the first episode of
>>Santa Barbara.  I no longer watch Santa Barbara, but I was very hooked
>>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>--elana (elana@artsci.wustl.edu)
>
>
>
>    *sigh*
>
>
>    Nor do any of the rest of us.
>
>
>    )*8
>      '
>      '
>
>
>    .sigless E
>
>


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From: e2hooger@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Erica Hoogerbeets)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Can it get any worse?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:11:25 GMT

All I can say to the following is:  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
That is GREAT!    :-)  

Erica

In article <93026.122036NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> Limpydick: "Yvonne! Yvonne!"
> Yvonne:    "Yes sir."
> Limpydick: "We'll have to do something about Zeus, she's giving too much
>             away!"
> Yvonne:    "But sir..."
> Limpydick: "Don't argue with me Yvonne! Look at the way she keeps hanging
>             around that damn statue!"
> Yvonne:    "I see what you mean, but wouldn't it be easier to get rid
>             the statue?"
> Auntie Livid: "WHAT!? Get rid of a priceless Alamian antique? Are you out of
>                mind! Don't you know how much thats worth on the open market?"
> Yvonne:    "But Madom..."
> Auntie Livid: "Don't argue with me, I'm not in the ... *ah-choo* ... mood"
> Limpydick: "Much as I'd love to keep Zeus around simply because she make
>             Vivian's eyes water, I want you to posion its food."
> Yvonne:    "But won't that draw attention?"
> Limpydick: "Is it my fault that the Writers Reject Club of America
>              keep giving me this dreck to utter?"
> Yvonne:    "I suppose you're right sir."
> Yvonne:    "Sir? ..."
> Limpydick: "Yes Yvonne?"
> Yvonne:    "Shall I make it look like an accident? Or shall I put a suicide
>             note next to the cat?"
> 
> Viewers:  "UUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
> 
> 
>                                                Creative Writing 101 this ain't
>                                                              -N-
>                                                              All
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: drs1002@ucs.usl.edu (Schwartz Donald R)
Subject: Re: GL: Trivia #15
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:45:53 GMT

In article <52592.sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu> sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu writes:
>Here is Trivia #15...
>
>
>1) Name three Bauers who were alcoholics.

rick, ed, and papa bauer
>
>
>2) Who was Simon Hall's father?
>
brandon spaulding or eric luvanoczek -- i can't remember.....

>
>3)What is Phillip Spaulding's middle name?
>
>
>4) What is Ed Bauer's middle name?
>

edward

>
>5) What was Reva's nickname for Josh Lewis?
>

bud

>
>6) What were Mallet and Harley's nicknames for each other during the stake
>   out at the "Happy Homes Bungalow"?
>
piggy?

>
>7) When roger and Holly were married, where did they go on their honeymoon?
>
>
>8) With what ailment is Samantha Marler afflicted?
>

allergies

>
>9) For what occasion did Hampton Speakes make his first appearance on GL?
>

billy and vanessa's wedding?

>
>10) Who are Johnny Bauer's parents?
>
>
>
>
>Enjoy,
>Sheila
>
>
--donald
...still waiting for susan piper to return!!!

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From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Male Gay Athletes
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:08:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <C141Dq.318@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mbrownel@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(Mary Elizabeth Brownell) writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.203809.4427@pixel.kodak.com> fbrown@ssd.kodak.com (Frank
Brown) writes:
>>In article <C0woq7.AM7@ddsw1.mcs.com> starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders) wr
ites:
>>>
>>>On 14 Jan 93 16:14:05 GMT, sbookey@ep.ieee.org (Seth Bookey),
>>>in Message-ID: <1993Jan14.161405.8004@zeus.ieee.org> writes:
>>>
>>>
>
>>I dont ever remember hearing a male athlete admit he was gay.
>
>Back in the '70's (I think) there was a male tennis star  that wanted
>desperately to be a female and had a sex change operation.  The person
>was Renee'  something.   Anyway, the tennis association  wouldn't
>allow Renee'  to compete  against the men because he was now a female,
>and couldn't compete against the females because  he  was a male
>(which supposedly made  him much stronger, and whatever  men  are
>supposed to  be).  I only vaguely remember this story.  Does anyone
>else remember  this situation?
>
>-Mary  Elizabeth
>
He/she ended up as Renee Richards and I believe was eventually allowed to play
some women's tournaments.  She wasn't very good as a man or a woman.  The big
fear of those attempting to keep Renee from playing in women's tournaments was
that other men would have sex change operations just so they could get have an
advantage on the women's tour.  This is not my opinion.
-- 

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From: tlsogg@athena.mit.edu (Tammy L Cagann)
Subject: SB final episode
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:11:23 GMT

Well, I've just trudged through a whole bunch of posts about the final episode
and some of the memories people have of years gone by.  Now for some comments of
my own....

I was a little disappointed in the final week of episodes.  I thought it would be
very appropriate if, at a few times, they maybe flashed back to some old scenes. 
The scene with CC at Sophia's bedside in the hospital (right after Ken died) was
nice because it showed them quite a while back.  I thought they might throw in
scenes of them dancing on several occasions over the years, but they stuck with
just one.  That sort of thing would ahve been nice.  We could have seen a few
flashbacks of Cruz and Eden and all....maybe even in the wedding.  As they panned
across different people's faces they could have remembered some of the weddings
that have happened over the years.  That would have been the only thing I would
have changed, with the exception of having the last episode never have to happen!

I thought it was also a little strange because the cast has changed a lot in just
a few months, and it was all of these new characters around which the final
episode revolved.  It was all Warren (though he was on a long time ago) and BJ,
and a lot of Reese and Jody.  These characters were all cool, but with the
exception of CC & Sophia getting back together (like we couldn't see that one a
mile away!) it didn't seem like the "old" Santa Barbara to me.

While we're talking about memories, does anyone remember the days of Cain and
Eden's old friend from boarding school or something?  Cain became such a good guy
after he kidnapped Eden!

In the questin of who played the best Mason,I'll have to put my vote in for Lane 
Davies.  Gordon Thompson did a superb job once he got started, but I'll always 
miss the old Mason.

How about Kelly and Jeffrey's wedding?  It was so romantic when she rode up in
that Cinderella carriage.  Then all these explosives started going off and Cruz
escaped.  He was under arrest for murder (I don't even remember whose), but Keith
gave in and let him attend the wedding anyway.

Does anyone else remember what was quite possibly the very wors SB episode ever? 
This guy had shown up as another one of CC illegitimate kids.  I think his name
was Greg or something, and CC had had a little fling with his mother in Paris
years ago.  Poor Greg was not having an easy time of fitting in with the Capwell
family (I think it was because he had dark hair) and one day the entire episode
was him talking to all of the characters, but they all had green makeup on their
faces and were supposed to be aliens of some sort.  It was totally stupid! 
Luckily it was a one-day thing.

Well, I guess that's it for now.  I'll close with the words of my grandmother who
has been a SB faithful for a long time, "I can't believe it's just not going to
be on any more.  I never thought a TV show could mean so much to me."

Tammy Cagann
MIT
From: norbeck@pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Old Cain/Cruz storylines: help me remember them!
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:11:24 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu

Wait a minute, WRT Eden ending up in the mountains, didn't she go up
there with Elena, who was driving and pushed her out of the car,
hoping to kill her?  I know she definitely wanted her dead, and I
don't remember Cain being involved.  I'm pretty sure he found Eden and
decided to take care of her, then fell in love with her, etc.

Did Ric have anything to do with the Major?  I seem to remember the
Major trying to get him to do his dirty work or blackmail him or
something.  Or am I getting my timelines mixed up? (I don't even
remember if Ric was back in SB at this point..)  I do remember Tori
being involved...

(I'm just SO thrilled that Daytime TV decided to leave all this
out...like it's not a big storyline or something!)

Nancy


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From: jmeranda@oracle.com (John Meranda)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: old soap
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:14:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA  94065
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1jlivhINNgv6@cuda.add.itg.ti.com> middendorf@tsd.itg.ti.com writes:
>A fiend of mine ;) tells me that back in the olden days (late 50's early
>60's) there was a soap on TV that went off the air. He says that the last
>show to air had all the soap characters put on a bus, and the bus was sent
>over a cliff killing everyone, thus bringing an end to all the story lines.
>
Cool!!!
>
>Is this fiend lying to me?  I have a bet that he is.
I don't know, but it sure *sounds* believable (after all, IOAS;-)

Happy trails!
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From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:24:33 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC My favorite quotes 1/19/93
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / cpatters@ub.d.umn.edu (Granma) / 11:34 pm  Jan 20, 1993 /
>>  "Man it's colder than a witch's... (pause looks at Hayley) NOSE out there"
>>--------------------------------------------------
>
>When Charlie said this, I screamed, "... tit in a brass bra!!!!!!""
>
>Now, I'm just wondering, folks ----- usually I'm really skeptical
>about the writers reading this net, but tell me, is this a common
>saying?  Or is it just us northern babes (and dudes) who know
>the true meaning of c-c-c-c-c-cold?

Yes, this is a common saying, althought it has several endings ... the one
you suggest (I am embarassed to admit) is not the ending I am aware of.

>Granma:

Dave Ochs            "I just had this image of you ... you were wearing a
daveo@cv.hp.com       sash and shiny gold buttons ... were you ever in a 
Corvallis, OR         marching band?"          "Amnesia" Erica to Dimitri