From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: COMMODORE - HERE'S A CLUE
Date: 27 Sep 92 09:25:11 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos) writes:
>HEY COMMODORE, PAY ATTENTION ...

huh?  wha?  did you say something?

>My opinions for what they are worth...

I think you should pay US for reading them...

>1) Minimum CPU in any of your systems ... 68030. If a company like
>   Atari can follow Apple's lead, then so should you. 

Both the Atari and Apple *NEED* 030 based machines to do the job a 68000 or
020 based Amiga could do.  Since their graphics systems suck so much CPU time,
they need higher powered CPU's just to be usable.  In apples case, you need an
030 just to make their OS usable.

>2) MAINTAIN YOUR USER-BASE. OFFER UPGRADE PATHS to the new high-end 
>   machines. If you alienate your user base, new software products
>   will become scarcer. There will be no repeat sales to previous
>   Amiga owners as they migrate to other platforms due to the
>   lack of software necessary to get the job done. HAVEN'T YOU HEARD
>   THE MAXIM THAT GOES:
>
>                    SATISFY THE CUSTOMER!

Commodore does more for their customers than ANY OTHER computer manufacturer. 
No other company has offerered to give you $1500 dollars off a computer just
for owning any of their other products (some of them 15 years old).  No other
company has given you a bus specification that is as much of an advance and
still keeps backward compatibility as ZorroIII.  

Heck, I don't see IBM PC (original PC) owners complaining that 16 bit SVGA
cards don't work in their 8 bit slots (Every SVGA card that i
know of is 16 bit) do you?  I don't see ISA owners complaining that they can't
upgrade their machines to local bus graphics cards that run so much faster. 
Do you?  I don't see ISA owners complaining that they can't put EISA cards in
their ISA machines.  Do you?  Commodore has done more than anyone else.

> 3) CD-ROM or a CDTV SOLUTION for all your products. 

funny, i don't see any other computer manufacturer shipping CD-Roms in every
system they produce... what a stupid idea..

> 4) STOP ALIENIATING THIRD PARTY SUPPORT...
>    A sale by them means a sale of another Amiga...
>    How long will it take before an Amiga 4000 Video Toaster is 
>    produced? Helping out third party vendors helps your sales.

NewTek DELIBERATELY made the toaster against specifications.  I'm sure they
had a 3000 long before the toaster even shipped, they certainly knew the specs
years before the toaster shipped.

What is commodore supposed to do?  say "Oh, you ignored us, even though we
told you repeatedly not to do this... so we'll encourage you to disregard us
again by just changing OUR designs.. "  That makes *MUCH* more sense.. change
the computer when the periphial is cheaper.

> 5) ADVERTISE! Atari is spending $60 million dollars to roll out
>    the Falcon. (Source San Jose Mercury News) The new sci-fi
>    series Babylon 5 seems a good place to start. 

Umm.. perhaps you haven't seen the recent spreads in InfoWorld, Byte, and many
other major publications... Television advertising just isn't cost effective,
especially in this day and age where people are working more hours, and have
less free time to watch tv with.

> 6) A4000 needs immediate work before market release. Sure it has
>    great new graphics, but where is the improved sound? You can't
>    tout it as a multimedia machine if you are using yesteryear's
>    technology.

Why not?  It's a multi-media machine.  It beats Microsofts idea of
multi-media.  I see no connection between age of technology, and how usefull
it is in multi-media.

>Author's note:
>                     If this post sounds like something you
>                     might have read here, you are probably
>                     right. Most of the above came from people
>                     that post here frequently, some die-hard
>                     Amiga addicts. If you aren't going to treat 
>                     us right, then we will go elsewhere.
>                     And your sales will suffer from our loss.


Translation of above message:
                           If this post sounds like something you
                           might have read here, you are probably
                           right.  I'm a whiner just like everyone
                           else.  I want commodore to go broke by 
                           selling us technology that nobody else
                           can for a rediculous price.  Most of the
                           above came from people that post their
                           rediculous opinions of what the computer
                           industry needs, frequently, some die-hard
                           Amiga addicts that can't see how inferior
                           the competitions technology really is.  If
                           we can't get our way with you, then we'll
                           look for some other sucker to dump on.
                           And your sales will probably not be affected.

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