HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ltf@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Lance Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: US are piss Poor Losers
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:40:15 GMT
Organization: NC Microproducts, Inc.

In article <1992Jul26.183642.4401@cs.hw.ac.uk> neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
}
}Having just watched the first round of the Olympic basketball, I think the
}American Olympic Basketball selection people are a pretty piss poor bunch of
}bad taste loser fuckers.
}
}So they got beaten by the USSR in Seoul. Net result, the NBA *Pro* players
}get drafted into the US Olympic Squad and wipe Angola off the face of the
}earth, and the team were very cocky aswell.

Hmmm...correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Angolan team have a number
of "Pro"'s on it?

In fact, don't most of the teams from countries which have the equivalent
of a "Professional" league have "Pro"'s on them?

Besides which, what's the difference between an American Professional
basketball player, who gets paid to play basketball full time, and 
Amateur basketball players from countries who support their "full-time"
training?

You send your best atheletes to the Olympics...how they make a living
should NOT be a factor!  Or are you suggesting that it should?


Lance

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NC Microproducts, Inc.       |    Lollipop?!?"                 The Fat Fury |
Richardson, Texas            +----------------------------------------------+
From: king@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King)
Newsgroups: alt.flame
Subject: Re: Just Curious
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:31:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

In article <1992Jul20.171933.17474@athena.cs.uga.edu> milliken@athena.cs.uga.edu (Brewmeister) writes:
>MAC: if you're reading this, do you have any government contacts that you could
>ask why the hell we're exporting computer technology to Canada so they can post
>this kind of steaming, green-fly covered horse-shit that we'll just have to sit
>here and read?  They've gotta be getting their hardware from us.  Find out will
>you?  Enquiring minds want to know.

You're not exporting computer technology to Canada. We get it sent to us
from Japan. Actually, my hard disc is made in Ireland and the controller in
Scotland, with parts from Singapore, Malaysia, Korea and Mexico. So there.

Now, for 1 second I will assume that you are on a UNIX system. Did you know
that some of the pioneering work on timesharing computer systems was done
here at DCIEM (by Dr. Martin Taylor) in conjuction with Digital Equipment
Corporation? So who is exporting the technology to whom?

I notice that Brewmeister posts from a .edu site. This means that his
education is not complete. 'nuff said.
-- 
                       Se non e` vero, e` ben trovato 
     ...{utzoo|mnetor}!dciem!dretor!king        king@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: 13501DJK@MSU
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Museum of Holography closes?
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:10:27 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

I have recently heard rumor that the Museum of Holography in NY has closed due
to financial problems. Can anyone out there please confirm (or preferably deny)
 this report? thanx
From: ikami@lipovx.lbl.gov (Craig ikami)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: random dot
Date: 21 Jul 1992 13:33 PST
Organization: LBL - Molecular Medicine Group
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.32.22
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

	Please send me any random dot postscript files to my e-mail.

			thanks
From: imc@prg.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: PS stereograms
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:38:09 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
X-Local-Date: Tuesday, 28th July 1992 at 6:37pm BST

In article <1992Jul26.012844.23784@raven.alaska.edu>, ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson) wrote:
>In article <1992Jul25.232800.26343@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Govindaraju Rao) writes:

>>   1) In the bubble stereoram I see an "inverted" bubble. It
>>      appears bowl-shaped (concave away from observer). Is this
>>      correct or should it appear convex towards the observer, like
>>      a blister, or hemispherical soap bubble.

>It's "correct" in that you see something, but you're viewing the
>opposite of what was intended.  If you allow your eyes to relax and
>focus on infinity, the bubble will be convex.  When you view the
>images crosseyed, the depth information is inverted, and it becomes a
>bowl.

I viewed the bubble and the torus in wide-eyes mode, and I saw the same.  I
was unable to see anything except an amorphous circular blob for some time,
mind you.

What I saw was a hemispherical bowl sitting on top of the background
surface, similar to the first poster above.  Similarly, when viewing the
torus I saw half a torus sitting on the background with the hollow face
towards me - though I was only able to see anything while by looking at the
upper half of the picture.

So, if these apparitions are incorrect, then something strange is happening
- not just that we are viewing them "inside out" in cross-eye mode.

Ian Collier
Ian.Collier@prg.ox.ac.uk | imc@ecs.ox.ac.uk
From: hdnea@usho92.hou281.chevron.com (David Neal)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: FAA data available online
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:26:55 GMT
Organization: Chevron

Greetings all you 3D hackers. 

First, does anyone have a cheap package to let you look at 
'world data'? Something like the CIA stuff? Hopefull it will
let you zoom in and out and move about in a lat/long coordinate
system.

Second, since you 3D guys are always looking for interesting 
data, I'd just like to point out the FAA Airport database is
now online at seas.smu.edu. Look under the flight directory.

The program navconv.c has structures that pretty much define the
data's layout.

Sure, it's not as much fun as morphing superman into a coke bottle,
but some of you guys might have use for it.

In the same directory is also navigational aids and airway information.

-- 
David Neal hdnea@chevron.com So... when... you... fly, stay as calm as the ocean
                             And watch what's going on, behind your shoulder
Quote from Ron Wanttaja      You know the air's not the place for deep emotion
 - prang@ssc-bee.boeing.com  And maybe... you'll get... a little older.
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: cw21219@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth C. Wang )
Subject: Best GIF reader?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:58:05 GMT


Can someone tell me from their own experience, what they
feel the best GIF reader/printer is? Which is the best
commercial one? and also, which is the best shareware reader?

				Thanks, Yuan
-- 
 Kenneth C. Wang	| University Of Illinois Champaign-Urbana	
 			| Internet: c-wang@uiuc.edu			
			| AKA Che-Yuan Wang
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: awilliam@qucis.queensu.ca (Andrew Williams)
Subject: Re: Power Gloves for sale ***BUYER BEWARE***
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:16:19 GMT

In article <BruD2x.3Et@cs.dal.ca> ingalls@cs.dal.ca (Colin Ingalls) writes:
>As the subject says, I have a few Nintendo Power Gloves
>I would like to sell.  They are all large which I think
>is about a men's medium.  They cost $100 (+ shipping,
>which should be <= $10 I think).
>
>Colin I.
>

***** CANADIAN SHOPPERS ***** 
  Try your local Zeller's or Canadian Tire... they sell for about 
$50.00 (49.95 I think). This is well below the $100 being requested. 
On my last visit to Zeller's the local store had close to twenty
gloves in stock.
From: carter@cemvax.cem.msu.edu (Tom Carter)
Newsgroups: alt.3d,misc.test,alt.fan.lightbulbs
Subject: re: Testing again
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:58:30 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, East Lansing Michigan

In article <l7d3ipOPPhnc@alcor.usc.edu> echeverr@chaph.usc.edu (5150) writes:
>Sorry about this, but my Use Network feed went down recently, and I'm
>not sure if its back working again yet, so I thought I'd just post this little test message
>to see if it was alllright again.
>
>
>Hiya all.
>
>Love from,
>
>-- 
>Ron Echeverri                     |
>echeverr@chaph.usc.edu            |       "I don't THINK so."
>rone@skat.usc.edu                 |                 - Homey The Clown
>flames: nobody@usc.edu            |
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>/  \_(_) / / <_    (___, (__/ /_</_\/ (__/ (_/ (_<_
>
>
>

That's what the newsgroup alt.test is FOR!

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|   Michigan State University           |     carter@msucem.bitnet         |
|     Chemistry Department              |                                  |
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Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: dstamp@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Dave Stampe-Psy+Eng)
Subject: Re: Sega glasses & Nintendo Powerglowe
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:22:14 GMT

1992Jul21.122526.21956W@saruman.sssab.se> nicolai@sssab.se writes:
>Virtual Reality has interseted me since I got my hands on a raytrace that
>would run on my 386 a few years ago. Lately I've read about the Sega
>3D glasses (goggles) and a Nintendo Powerglowe, and that sounds real
>interesting, can anyone please inform me on were I would be able to 
>order these and in what price range they are?

It's unfortunate that both these thing have been discontinued.  Sega
of America is supposed to be selling some reconditioned glasses,
though.  The gloves are harder to find, although some "glove-hunters"
have posted on sci.virtual-worlds offering to seel hoarded gloves at
100% markup (about $100).

Since you have a 386, I'd suggest getting REND386 from sunee.uwaterloo.ca
which supports both, and has a high-speed 3D renderer built in.  THe next
release should be out in a few weeks, and includes a complete world (well,
set of rooms with furnishings).  Source code is available, but you need 
Turbo C++ or Borland C++ to compile it.


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| My life is Hardware,                    |                              | 
| my destiny is Software,                 |         Dave Stampe          |
| my CPU is Wetware...                    |                              | 
| Anybody got a SDB I can borrow?         | dstamp@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca |
__________________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: alt.3d
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:50:35 -0400 
From: "Peter B. Behrens" <pb00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Museum of Holography closes?

Excerpts from netnews.alt.3d: 21-Jul-92 Museum of Holography closes? by
13501DJK@MSU 
> I have recently heard rumor that the Museum of Holography in NY has closed 
> due to financial problems. Can anyone out there please confirm (or
> preferably deny)
>  this report? thanx

I believe it has closed.  Why don't you call them to make sure.  They
were located at No. 11 Mercer Street, New York, NY (that's in Soho).
From: ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: PS stereograms
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:28:37 GMT
Organization: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam Fans

In article <1992Jul25.232800.26343@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Govindaraju Rao) writes:

>   1) In the bubble stereoram I see an "inverted" bubble. It
>      appears bowl-shaped (concave away from observer). Is this
>      correct or should it appear convex towards the observer, like
>      a blister, or hemispherical soap bubble. I viewed it in
>      both orientations i.e. arrow marks away from me and towards
>      me; still the same result. 

It's "correct" in that you see something, but you're viewing the
opposite of what was intended.  If you allow your eyes to relax and
focus on infinity, the bubble will be convex.  When you view the
images crosseyed, the depth information is inverted, and it becomes a
bowl.  You're having the same problem with the toroid; look for a
half-donut embedded in the page, inside view.

Your view isn't incorrect because different people view stereograms
different ways; for example, I can't view them crosseyed, and my
father can't view them at infinity.  Just go with what you can do.

Eric Olson <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
From: danielg@autodesk.com (Daniel Green)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: Looking for info on SpaceBall device
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:50:28 GMT
Reply-To: danielg@autodesk.com
Organization: Autodesk, Inc.

In article 12781@colorado.edu, salim@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Salim Alam) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Could someone kindly provide me with information on the
> SpaceBall device such as the name/address/phone# of the
> vendor, the price, and any details on the interface used
> to plug it into a machine.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -Salim
 
Try Spaceball Technologies Inc.
600 Suffolk St.
Lowell, MA 01854
tel: (508) 970-0330
fax: (508) 970-0199

They cost around $1500 and comes with lots of software
to get you started including complete demos.

---
Daniel Green
danielg@autodesk.com
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Newsgroups: alt.3d,misc.test,alt.fan.lightbulbs
From: echeverr@chaph.usc.edu (5150)
Subject: Testing again
Followup-To: alt.3d,misc.test,alt.fan.lightbulbs,alt.sex,talk.bizzare,alt.fan.warlord
Reply-To: rone@skat.usc.edu (5150)
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:39:05 GMT

Sorry about this, but my Use Network feed went down recently, and I'm
not sure if its back working again yet, so I thought I'd just post this little test message
to see if it was alllright again.


Hiya all.

Love from,

-- 
Ron Echeverri                     |
echeverr@chaph.usc.edu            |       "I don't THINK so."
rone@skat.usc.edu                 |                 - Homey The Clown
flames: nobody@usc.edu            |
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Newsgroups: alt.3d,misc.test,alt.fan.lightbulbs,alt.sex,talk.bizzare,alt.fan.warlord
From: church@fraser.sfu.ca (Mike James Church)
Subject: Re: Testing again
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:04:01 GMT

echeverr@chaph.usc.edu (5150) writes:

>Sorry about this, but my Use Network feed went down recently, and I'm
>not sure if its back working again yet, so I thought I'd just post this little test message
>to see if it was alllright again.


>Hiya all.

>Love from,

>-- 
>Ron Echeverri                     |
>echeverr@chaph.usc.edu            |       "I don't THINK so."
>rone@skat.usc.edu                 |                 - Homey The Clown
>flames: nobody@usc.edu            |
> _ __                 __
>' )  )               /  `     /
> /--' ________      /--   _. /_  _ , __/> __  __  o
>/  \_(_) / / <_    (___, (__/ /_</_\/ (__/ (_/ (_<_

ROM?  That's an odd name.
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Right and Left handed gloves?
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:26:25 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Are there right and left hand powergloves

I'm interested in getting a pair (now that my summer class is over!)
but want to know if I should only buy one glove (like you see in the
commercial..or used to) or if there are 2 gloves or whatever.
Also, how do they work (good, bad) with the pc modified extensions
etc (hooked into that serial box along with the sega glasses)
 - Kirk
(sorry for the confusing text, my text buffer is going haywire)
From: lectro@milton.u.washington.edu (Jonathan E. Maier)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: PS stereograms
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:19:05 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <12948@chalmers.se> d6jvb@dtek.chalmers.se (Johan von Boisman) writes:
>too low. How do you others view them? Better printers or previewers?
>I have tried GhostScript/Xwindows also.
>

   I just saved each postings to a file, stripped the headers and printed
them on our Apple Laser Writer postscript printer.  They came out fine and
could give an ant vertigo. ;-)

  Jonathan E. Maier             # ## #                lectro@u.washington.edu
 -----------------------------  # ## #  --------------------------------------
  Weekend Operator             ## ## ##              University of Washington
  UCS Operations              ##  ##  ##                  Seattle, Washington
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: jew5001@venus.tamu.edu (WILLIAMSON, JOHN EDWARD)
Subject: 3D Cameras for Sale
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:48:00 GMT

KEH Camera
188 14th St. NW
Atlanta, GA  30318
(404) 892-5522

KEH has a decent supply of Nishika 3D cameras for sale.  The Nishika is
a cheap copy of the Nimslo and has four lenses.  It was made to produce
lenticular style 3D prints, but can be readily used to create the more
traditional stereo pairs.  It uses 35mm film and has a standard flash
shoe.

This is not the best 3D camera ever made, but it is the most accessible.

Price $150 new.

Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: glen@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (Glen Harris)
Subject: Sega 3D Viewer v1.1 available
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, JCUNQ
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:29:22 GMT


  The latest version of my 3D viewer is avalable from wuarchive in
/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS as sega11.zip.   

Getopt() has been incorporated along with a few new options. (8-})

The split program works now, but note:
  split is for splitting .img files into two targas.
  add is for adding two gifs, _with the same color map_, into a single gif.

When I get gif encoding working, I'll have a program that will take two
gifs/targas and make a single viewable gif.

Next version will also take two separate files as input.

*----------------------------------*------------------------------*
* Glen Harris                      * 3D and Virtual               *
* glen@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au        * Reality Groupie              *
*----------------------------------*------------------------------*
Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Join in the fun and copy me into yours!



Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: lectro@hardy.u.washington.edu (Jonathan E. Maier)
Subject: RDS pictures (want them)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:54:31 GMT

Hey all,

   I would like to get my hands on as many RDS files as I can.  Could
someone direct me to archive sites that have them, and/or email me ones
that you've created-- especially more complex ones!

Thanks,

  Jonathan E. Maier             # ## #                lectro@u.washington.edu
 -----------------------------  # ## #  --------------------------------------
  Weekend Operator             ## ## ##              University of Washington
  UCS Operations              ##  ##  ##                  Seattle, Washington
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Govindaraju Rao)
Subject: Re: PS stereograms
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 23:28:00 GMT

   Johan writes:
   >> When I print them (RDS) on our standard laserwriter 
   >> (Apple type 300 dpi ?) it doesn't seem to produce 
   >> the wanted effect.
  
I printed them on a HP LaserJet III (300 dpi) and they seem to
be fine. However, I have encountered the following problems.
  
   1) In the bubble stereoram I see an "inverted" bubble. It
      appears bowl-shaped (concave away from observer). Is this
      correct or should it appear convex towards the observer, like
      a blister, or hemispherical soap bubble. I viewed it in
      both orientations i.e. arrow marks away from me and towards
      me; still the same result. 
  
   2) In the Ram's Horn sterogram I see two "objects" shaped like
      a comma (,), one larger than the other. Both these are at the
      same elevation, between and close to the upper tips of 
      the horns. When I try to "lock" onto them they disappear.
      Are they really there or is my eyesight going downhill ??
      If they exist, are they intentional, or artifacts of the
      generating algorithm? 
 
  3) I am having great difficulty with the Toroid stereogram.
     I am unable to keep the image formed even fleetingly. 
     What exactly am I supposed to see in this one? I see
     "ridges" on the left and right side and a large circular
     depression in the center, with another conical (?) projection
     in the dead center of the depression. Sometimes the conical
     projection appears as a floating disk. Is anyone else having
     trouble with this one ? I think my technique is correct since
     I see all the others easily. 
 
Please e-mail replies to <rao@ccm.umanitoba.ca>. Will post summary
if warranted. (Preferably please do not reply to e-mail address
in the header of this posting.)
  
Thank you.
 
G.S.K. Rao <rao@ccm.umanitoba.ca> 
Newsgroups: alt.3d,misc.test,alt.fan.lightbulbs
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Testing again
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:58:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.172647.1252@afterlife.ncsc.mil> glreno@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Gerald Reno) writes:
>So what's this group for?

Lightbulb jokes.
-- 
                                                                `-_-'
                         Have you hugged your wolf today?        'U`

Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX  +1 713 568 0480/1032
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: jeffgus@netcom.com (Jeffrey Gustafson)
Subject: FTP site for RDS's
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 04:50:11 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Problem with FTP sites listed with RDS's
Keywords: RDS FTP sites

	I'm having trouble with the FTP sites someone listed.  The
stereogram subdirectory doesn't exist on cs.tut.fi.  And FTP times out
on sugrfx.acs.syr.edu.  Does anybody know any solutions?
			...Jeff
			jeffgus@netcom.com
From: rick@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Fredrick Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: PS stereograms
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:06:35 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <2397.imc@uk.ac.ox.prg> imc@prg.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier) writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.012844.23784@raven.alaska.edu>, ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu (Eric J. Olson) wrote:
>>In article <1992Jul25.232800.26343@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rao@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Govindaraju Rao) writes:
>
>>>   1) In the bubble stereoram I see an "inverted" bubble. It
>>
>>opposite of what was intended.  If you allow your eyes to relax and
>>focus on infinity, the bubble will be convex.  When you view the
>>images crosseyed, the depth information is inverted, and it becomes a
>>bowl.
>
>I viewed the bubble and the torus in wide-eyes mode, and I saw the same.  I
>was unable to see anything except an amorphous circular blob for some time,
>mind you.
>

Are you guys perhaps looking at the TRANSPARENT bubble and TRANSPARENT
torus?  They have been posted here too, and are more advanced viewing
subjects.  You would likely see the inside of the bottom surface first
since they are closest to the back plane.



      Rick   Wilson             Rick Wilson       Cross-eyed STEREO
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