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From: flegel@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Willy Flegel)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: BIKE   FIREPLACE TOOLS   BARBEQUE
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:57:40 GMT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: University of California, San Diego

FOR SALE

SCHWINN MEN'S BIKE
10 gear

$ 50
=============================================================

FIREPLACE TOOLS
brass, heavy duty, 4 pieces

$ 15       pickup on UCSD campus
============================================================

HIBACHI BARBEQUE-SET NEW

$ 8        pickup on UCSD campus

Call Willy               534-8797 (day)
Leave message            455-0130
Send email               waf@ucsd.edu
From: mfoskey@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Mark Foskey)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,ucsd.buy+sell
Subject: Free broken TV taken.
Keywords: free, broken
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:46:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: sdnet

A few days ago I posted a message advertizing a free, but broken, TV.
It's now been taken.  Sorry if you were interested.

Mark Foskey
From: vwass@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Vincent Wass)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: Mac+,60M Hard drive **>$350/$200
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:25:59 GMT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Mac+ for sale:
		$350 **> 2.5 Megs ram
		     **> all possible software
		     **> assessories, fan

60 Meg Hard drive:
		$200 **>external 

The hard drive has all the software preinstalled.  Will sell both
together or separately.  For faster response call me, Vince at
587-0760, I live close to ucsd.
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
From: gover@dspserv (Sam Gover)
Subject: Bike for sale $30
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:37:32 GMT

Old looking and a little heavy, but in perfect working order...
10 speed, sprung saddle (comfortable), green...
$30 or offer...

phone sam on 464-6538
or email gover@jewel.sdsu.edu
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
From: pferraro@maui.qualcomm.com (Paul Ferraro)
Subject: 286/12 system and CD player for sale
Summary: 286/12 system and CD player for sale!
Keywords: 286/12, CD player
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 09:09:27 GMT


286/12 
vga monitor
vga card
40 mb hard drive
1.44 floppy
1.2 floppy
keyboard and mouse

500$ or best offer..

Paul
pferraro@qualcomm.com
From: mu299af@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Gary Yin)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: Records For Sale
Keywords: Records For Sale, classical
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:06:30 GMT
Distribution: sdnet


I have a lot of classical, broadway musical, and some pop records
many of which I have only played once.  They are in great condition.
Due to my scheduled move,  I am selling them very cheap ($1-$2 each,
that's 20% of the original costs).  Any interested people please
call 558-8523.

Gary
mu299af@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
From: hartung@crl.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,ucsd.buy+sell
Subject: STILL AVAILABLE: *FREE* Waterbed Frame!!! *FREE*
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:33:49 GMT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: University of California, San Diego

We still have a Waterbed frame and heater that no no one has claimed.  Because
it is rather large (and therefore difficult to move), and we need to get rid
of it quickly (to make room for wome new bedroom furniture) it is being
offered FREE to anyone who wants it.  It can also be used as a platform-style
bed with a King Size mattress (which is how we are using it now.)

Here is the description I posted last week:

*FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!* *FREE!*

We have a waterbed frame that we no longer need.  We also have a
waterbed heater to go with it, but the H2O-bed itself is not
available.  If you have the means to haul it away, it is yours for the
asking!  Free!

The frame is a walnut king size platform unit with drawers and storage
space underneath.  It also has a large headboard unit with cabinets and
a mirror.  It is in pretty good shape overall, but a couple of drawers
do not work properly, and it has some scratches.

If interested, contact via e-mail at the address below to arrange a
time.  This is strictly available on a first come, first serve basis.
We will not hold on to it if someone else offers to pick it up sooner
(unless you're already en route, that is... :-)


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From: khairon@usc.edu (Rosli Bin Khairon)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
Subject: 2 Month Old Acoustic Guitar For Sale
Date: 12 Oct 1992 17:33:50 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: sdnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


    I have a classical guitar which I bought this summer for sale.
It comes with a leather carrying case. And if you take it off my hands
within the week, I'll throw in a set of picks and an unused spare pitch
pipe for free. Bought for $260+ at Hollywood Music (just the guitar
and leather case). Asking for $160 firm. Interested parties please
email or for faster response, give me a call at (213) 745 2176.


Rosli Khairon
khairon@usc.edu
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
From: maxc0202@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Todd Greene)
Subject: HP 28S calculator manuals for sale.
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:43:17 GMT



For Sale:  The instruction manuals that come with the HP-28S
           calculator.  My calculator was stolen, and I'm left
           with just the manuals...so maybe someone will want them.

           These are the Owners and Reference Manuals, both are in
           perfect condition.

Price:     $20.00 + postage....which will help me pay for an HP-48.

Please leave E-mail for maxc0202@ucselx.sdsu.edu

Thanks,
Todd Greene

Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
From: baskar@voyager4.sdsu.edu (Kanakha K. Bhaskaran)
Subject: Laser Printer Font Cartridge For Sale
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:32:38 GMT

 
               "25 in one" FONT CARTRIDGE FOR SALE
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
ONLY $60 /obo 
 
"25 Cartridges in One"    - Made by PACIFIC DATA PRODUCTS
 
 172  Fonts and Symbol sets are supported.
 
Compatible with:
 
       HP LaserJet Series II, IID, IIP
       LaserJet Plus
       LaserJet 500+
       Cannon LBP-8II
       Olivetti PG-108/PG-208
       Konica  LP-3110
 
Comes with original manuals and program disks.
Hardly used.
 
send e-mail  or
Call baskar @294-7168 & leave message



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Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,ca.wanted
From: rterek@megatek.com (Robert Terek)
Subject: 1985 Yamaha FJ600 for sale
Reply-To: rterek@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:33:09 GMT

For Sale:	1985 Yamaha FJ600

	* 11,000 miles
	* Black/Red
	* Recent Dunlop 591s

Asking Price:	$1300.00

I've had this bike since 1988 but haven't used it very much.
I dropped it once in a slow turn, so the fairing is scratched
up on the right side. The bike needs a tune up and could use
a new clutch cable and brakes.

Respond by e-mail or call 619-259-4411.


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Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale
From: maxc1169@steer.sdsu.edu (Yuan-chi Chiu)
Subject: Quantum 52LPS SCSI, Cheap!!
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Distribution: sdnet
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:35:38 GMT

Hello all,

   I have a Quantum 52LPS drive that I must sell.  It works quickly, quietly,
and flawlessly.  I have no bad blocks and never have failures.

   It's 2 monthes old.  I want $150 for it.  Please send your offers and
queries to my mailbox.

   Well?
-- 
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___________________________________________________________________________
If you take any activity, any art, any discipline, any skill, take it and
From: am299am@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (B. Balendran)
Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,ucsd.misc
Subject: KING SIZE BED FOR SALE
Keywords: mattress box springs
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:30:36 GMT
Followup-To: sdnet.forsale
Distribution: sdnet

King size bed (mattress and box springs) for sale.

Excellent condition. almost NEW.

Asking $40 or bo

I am at UCSD North Mesa apartments.

Must sell by 10/10
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Reply to this message or call me at 453-4310 or 534-6525


balen


Newsgroups: sdnet.forsale,misc.forsale
From: steves@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Steve Schlesinger 3711)
Subject: U2 Tix at the Murph - Nov 10
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Distribution: sd
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:32:51 GMT


4 tickets for U2 at Jack Murphy Stadium on Nov. 10 Tuesday.

Field Level Section 6 - $50 each

Agencies are asking much more ...



===============================================================================
Steve Schlesinger 597-3711
steve.schlesinger@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
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11010 Torreyana Rd, San Diego, CA 92121                   ucsd.edu!sv001!steves
                                        steve.schlesinger@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
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From: tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter)
Newsgroups: phl.misc
Subject: Re: Kill File
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:45:06 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Drexel University

In article <TRSNYDER.92Oct13185744@queen.mcs.Drexel.edu> trsnyder@mcs.Drexel.edu (Bob Snyder) writes:
>
>I have no problem with what people from The Cellar post.  Only with one
>individual.  Which is why my Kill file contains:
>
>(gnus-kill "From" "techie@cellar.org")
>(gnus-expunge "X")
>
>I don't think blaming an entire site for one person's postings is fair, unless
>you see a number of people posting from there, which I haven't.
>
>And to be honest, I have no problem with what techie posts.  I just think he
>chooses the wrong newsgroups to post in.  There are appropriate places to
>discuss what he discusses.  I just don't happen to feel phl.misc is one of
>them.

I apologize for my error.  I have been emailed by a few concerned individuals
and they informed me that all these posts are from a single individual.
If I insulted anyone *else* on the Cellar, I apologize, but I do not apologize
for my comments towards techie.

I'm not trying to censor anyone here--I'm trying to keep myself from reading
garbage (in my opinion).

-Dave Slotter
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Xref: sparky phl.misc:258 pa.general:329 alt.conspiracy:11070 alt.activism:17292 talk.politics.misc:50291
From: melchar@west.darkside.com (Melchar)
Newsgroups: phl.misc,pa.general,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: al gore's scientific proof
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:17:29 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

>  The dust jacket on senator al gore's 1992 best seller, EARTH IN THE BALANCE,
> tels us that vice presidential nominee "is now convinced that the engines of 
> human civilization have brought us to the brink of catastrphe." We are also 
> told what we should do aboutit: "In this brave and provocatve book Gore 
> argues that only a radical rethinking o our releationship with nature can 
> save the earth's  ecology." Then we are informed that "some politicians and 
> business leaders still insist  the threat isn't real." The commentary on this
> sensational come on finally assures us, "Gore proves it thatis."
>    So there you have it[ "The environmental champion of the U.S senate  
> demonstrates in his 400 page book that we earthlings face catastrphe of our 
> own doing. There's no doubt about the impending doom: Gore "proves it"
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Hmm, and _if_ we do manage to get a handle on the ecology -- to keep 
catastrophe from occuring -- the forces of entropy will just have to 
think of some _other_ way of wiping us out.  Giant meteors, maybe.
From: tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter)
Newsgroups: phl.misc
Subject: Kill File
Keywords: KILL, Cellar, Twit
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:23:51 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Drexel University

I have gotten tired of reading any messages from The Cellar BBS.  I have a kill
file, but it seems that they keep posting on new topics.  Rather than having
to edit my kill file, I have thought about automatically skipping any messages
from this "bulletin-board system".  Does anyone know how to tell rn to skip
articles from certain systems? I have read the man pages on rn, but it only
mentions subject headings specifically.  Can you tell rn to skip messages from
certain Organizations?

I don't wish any reply from anyone from The Cellar BBS or the "John Birch
Society" or whatever they call themselves.  Don't bother sending email or
a followup article to me, because I will just ignore it.

-Dave
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slotter@gnu.ai.mit.edu                   | James Creese Student Union Complex
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215-895-2573 voicemail 215-895-2579 BBS  | Philadelphia, PA  19104-3412, USA
From: tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter)
Newsgroups: phl.misc
Subject: Re: Kill File
Keywords: KILL, Cellar, Twit
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:39:29 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Drexel University

In article <92777@netnews.upenn.edu> kupiec@hp800.lasalle.edu (Bob Kupiec) writes:
>In <1992Oct12.232351.20656@mcs.drexel.edu>, tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu writes:
>>I have gotten tired of reading any messages from The Cellar BBS...
[text deleted for brevity]
>Try putting this in your global KILL file: (It works for me. ;-)
>
>/cellar.org/h:j

Judging from the positive email and *this* message in particular, I think I'm
not all that out of line for my comments.  I had edited my message several
times before I sent it because 1) I can't cancel it on my site and 2) Even
the Cellar deserves that much.

Thank you for the help.  I will try this out.

-Dave Slotter
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tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (preferred)      | SysOp, The DUsers (World's first MUG)
slotter@gnu.ai.mit.edu                   | James Creese Student Union Complex
DAVE.SLOTTER@p7.f936.n273.z1.fidonet.org | 3210 Chestnut Street
215-895-2573 voicemail 215-895-2579 BBS  | Philadelphia, PA  19104-3412, USA
Newsgroups: phl.misc,pa.general,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
From: fafuria@dry.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia)
Subject: Re: al gore's scientific proof
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:50:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.021126.8279@bilver.uucp> dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
>Just an observation. Now here's a question for you: Have you seen any
>proof that Al Gore is in cahoots with the eco-freaks at the UN? I'd
>very much like to know if there's any hard refs on that. How ironic..
>Clinton/Gore beats up on Bush/Quayle but yet no one in the "controlled
>media" seems to be willing to tell anyone that BOTH candidates are
>members of the TLC/CFR? Also, would you care to elucidate on exactly
>what is "Global 2000" ?
>
>Don

Just a simple question....  What is the "TCL/CFR"?

Fred
From: rogue@cellar.org (Rachel McGregor)
Newsgroups: phl.misc
Subject: Kill file overreactions
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:29:03 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

It might be more effective to place /techie@cellar.org/ in your kill file,
since we have more than sixty subscribers here who post all over the net
(only two of whom are Birchers, but they're paid up).

[My stuff usually appears in comp.org.eff.talk, rec.aviation, rec.skate,
alt.tv.northern-exp, comp.sys.amiga.*, rec.arts.animation, and
alt.feminism.]


Rachel McGregor (rogue@cellar.org) co-sysop, The Cellar BBS: 215/654-9184
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Xref: sparky phl.misc:282 pa.general:347 alt.conspiracy:11328 alt.activism:17528 talk.politics.misc:52224
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: phl.misc,pa.general,alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: al gore's scientific proof
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:38:08 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <1992Oct12.091705.19337@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.025028.3259@Princeton.EDU> fafuria@dry.Princeton.EDU (Frederick Arthur Furia) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct7.021126.8279@bilver.uucp> dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen) writes:
>@ Just an observation. Now here's a question for you: Have you seen any
>@ proof that Al Gore is in cahoots with the eco-freaks at the UN? I'd
>@ very much like to know if there's any hard refs on that. How ironic..
>@ Clinton/Gore beats up on Bush/Quayle but yet no one in the "controlled
>@ media" seems to be willing to tell anyone that BOTH candidates are
>@ members of the TLC/CFR? Also, would you care to elucidate on exactly
>@ what is "Global 2000" ?
>
>>Just a simple question....  What is the "TCL/CFR"?
>
>	The Trilateral Commission and the Council for Foreign
>Relations, both John Birch Society villains. Apparently, the JBS holds
>that these two organizations are Communist fronts.

Henry Kissinger and that devil Jimmy Catah were members too. Ronald
Raguns was not. That should be sufficient proof for any RIGHT thinking
Amerikan that David Rockefeller, who founded the TCL and who is a puppet
of the vast Rothchild empire (the world Jewish Conspiracy), is plotting 
with the ONE WORLDERs to take over the country and pollute are precious 
bodily fluids.

Just because you are a certifible paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't
really out to get you.

Gary
From: george@sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu (George Jefferson -Bassani)
Newsgroups: phl.misc
Subject: Re: Kill File
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:26:19 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Laboratory for Research on the Structure of Matter, University of Pennsylvania

try this..
/alt.conspiracy/h:j
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From: failsafe@cellar.org (Failsafe)
Newsgroups: phl.misc
Subject: Re: Kill File
Keywords: KILL, Cellar, Twit
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:15:36 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter) writes:

> I don't need a job.  I don't like alternative music.  I don't care for rogue'
> comments in comp.org.eff.talk.  I don't read sci.skeptic.  I don't have an
> Amiga.  Being a Drexel student, I own a Macintosh.  I don't read rec.humor.

And I don't need to waste much more time reading the posts of someone with
such a narrow, myopic focus in life as well as such a closed mind! But I
wouldn't put Drexel in my kill file. In fact, I don't even have or want a
kill file!

> High quality?  That's your opinion, not mine. Responsible?  That's a relative
> term I don't wish to attempt to explain to you.

Please, don't embarrass yourself any further by trying to lecture us. You
look pretty sorry already.


> Now, now, don't get hostile.  This is but one of a dozen accounts I have on
> different online systems connected to the Internet.  The account isn't free,
> either.  I pay for it with my tuition.  I'd be damned if I ever came crying
> to you--especially you.

I hate to think some of my tax money, subsidising the NREN, is going to
allowing this spoiled undergraduate to waste net bandwith on several
accounts. I'm a professional well out of school who has to pay for my net
access.

> You're a sorry person to think this.

See above discussion. Make your own judgements on who's sorry.


> I'd advise *you* to get a real life and not flame people.  There's more to
> life than reading messages all day--especially from your BBS.

Not to belabor the point, but what are you doing? Are you any better?

> This message is not the official word of Drexel University or The DUsers.  It
> is my word only and I take responsibility for it.
> 
> -Dave Slotter
> -- 
> tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (preferred)      | SysOp, The DUsers (World's first M
> slotter@gnu.ai.mit.edu                   | James Creese Student Union Complex
> DAVE.SLOTTER@p7.f936.n273.z1.fidonet.org | 3210 Chestnut Street
> 215-895-2573 voicemail 215-895-2579 BBS  | Philadelphia, PA  19104-3412, USA

I'm really not sorry Dave won't be reading this! He's far beyond salvage.
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From: trsnyder@mcs.Drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: phl.misc
Subject: Re: Kill File
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:57:44 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.

>>>>> In article <1992Oct12.232351.20656@mcs.drexel.edu>,
>>>>> tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter) writes:

Dave> I have gotten tired of reading any messages from The Cellar BBS.
Dave> I have a kill file, but it seems that they keep posting on new
Dave> topics.  Rather than having to edit my kill file, I have thought
Dave> about automatically skipping any messages from this
Dave> "bulletin-board system".  Does anyone know how to tell rn to
Dave> skip articles from certain systems? I have read the man pages on
Dave> rn, but it only mentions subject headings specifically.  Can you
Dave> tell rn to skip messages from certain Organizations?

I have no problem with what people from The Cellar post.  Only with one
individual.  Which is why my Kill file contains:

(gnus-kill "From" "techie@cellar.org")
(gnus-expunge "X")

I don't think blaming an entire site for one person's postings is fair, unless
you see a number of people posting from there, which I haven't.

And to be honest, I have no problem with what techie posts.  I just think he
chooses the wrong newsgroups to post in.  There are appropriate places to
discuss what he discusses.  I just don't happen to feel phl.misc is one of
them.

Bob