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From: gaarder@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Steve Gaarder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Hooking an external monitor to a Mac Plus
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:52:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: tc.1992Apr15.165229.14823
Organization: AC Technology

We have some people here whose eyes  have a lot of trouble with the small Mac
screen.  Getting an LC with a larger screen doens't help much, because the
characters are still the same size - you just can see more of them.  So what
I'm thinking of doing is opening up a Mac Plus (well out of its warranty!)
and installing a connector for an external monitor.  According to my
oscilloscope, the horizontal frequency is around 27 kHz, which a mono 
multisync tube should be able to handle.  So, before I embark on this, has
anyone else tried this?  Any hints? (I am well aware that there are lots of
nasty voltages inside that box; I have many years' experience in electronics).

Thanks,

-- 
Steven Gaarder                              Network & Systems Adminstrator
gaarder@tc.cornell.edu                     AC Technology, Ithaca, N.Y. USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: markm@bnr.ca (Mark Marcelissen)
Subject: SCSI DB25 to DB50 micro cable
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:13:27 GMT


Can anyone tell me where I can buy a:
SCSI DB25 to DB50 mini-micro SCSI2 cable

I am trying to connect a Sun external harddisk box
to a Mac. Has anyone made a cable for it?

Whats the best formating S/W to use?
What about VCP format S/W from VCP Computer Products?

markm@bnr.ca
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: ci vs. quadra: opinions sought
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:00:41 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

bmw@ldgo.columbia.edu (brian whiting) writes:

>Hi all,

>I am considering purchase of a new mac for myself, at
>educational prices, before I stop being a student.  I
>am considering on of the two above, and lean toward ci
>having read (here and .mac.apps) about troubles with
>quadra compatability.

    Well, there really aren't any big problems with '040 cache
compatibility problems any more. And for the rare case, there is the
compatibility cdev from Alysis, that you can configure to turn of the
caching for specific applications, which will basically make your Quadra
run at the speed of a ci.

>Needs:  16" (or bigger) color monitor
>	ethernet connection
>	hard drive ~200 Mb or so
>	'only' 8 Mb ram will do for now
>	blazing speed not important (I use Suns for serious computation)

    Once you purchace a ci, and a video card that will handle 832x624
resolution, and an Ehternet card, not only have you paid more than a
Q700 but you have used 2 of your three slots, where on the quadra you
would have used none.

--
-Hades  (Brian V. Hughes)   | 
 hades@Coos.Dartmouth.Edu   | "DON'T TOUCH IT!! It's the History Eraser
 Mac Database Developer     |  Button, you fool!"  -- Ren
 Dartmouth Medical School   | 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wrstuden@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Rittenhouse Studenmund)
Subject: Re: (Q) A strange slot inside IIsi
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 04:20:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.203740.29661@wam.umd.edu> huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann) writes:
>In article <ktrrisINNmpa@mensa.usc.edu> joungwoo@mensa.usc.edu (John Kim) writes:
>>Hi,
>>	As I opened a Mac IIsi's lid, I saw a slim white slot between its
>>	only expansion slot and the 4 SIMM slots. Could anybody tell me what
>>	this for? Is it useful for anything? (If not, why is it there?)
>
>You must mean Apple's never-used (and probably never-to-BE-used) slot for
>ROM SIMMs. Supposedly if Apple comes out with a new version of their
>(how big are they now?) 512K ROM or a larger one, you will be able to
>stick it in that slot. So far, zippo.
>
>Joe


au contraire, mon ami.  A little known fact about the Mac IIsi is that the 
VERY FIRST ones used it.  The IIsi was introduced October 15, 1990.  I bought
mine on October 16th.  As I was friends with the manager of the campus
computer store where I got it, we poped the top and took a peek.  My 'si
didn't have any roms on the motherboard - it had two squares of traces, and 
chip ID's for ROMs, but no chips.  It did have some SIMM in the ROM slot.

Our understanding was that the ROM was not finalized in time to be installed
in the first produced IIsi's.  Remember, that was a hectic time for Apple.
They were just starting to shift to high volume production.  So a few things
were a little ragged.

Incidently, within two days of my getting the Mac, it died.  It just gave the
startup chime.  So I took it in to be fixed.  The tech. didn't know what it
was - they hadn't recieved the service info yet.  So they swapped out the 
mother board, and all was well. (He said there was a problem with the VideoRAM
, which was soldered onto the board).  The replacement had the ROMs built in,
so that space is now vacant.

Take care,

Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: davids@c3.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: Apple's Consumer Products: TV Remote
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:20:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.033445.2862@endeavor.intel.com>, george@endeavor.intel.com (George Rachor Jr. ) writes:
|> > or CL9 or something like that. It was a programmable remote control
|> > that sounded like fun. I saw it as a closeout at a store about 3 or 4
|> > years ago and haven't heard of it since. I don't remember the details
|> > of the device. I wonder if anybody bought one.
|> > 
|> > Perhaps that thing on tv is a revised CL9 that Apple is working with.
|> > Somebody out there must know what the real scoop is.
|> > 
|> > 
|> > 
|> > 
|> > -- 
|> >       o,  ,,   ,      | Bernie Bernstein                      | ,    ,,
|> >       L>O/  \,/ \    ,| University of Colorado at boulder     |/ \,,/  \
|> >      O./  '  / . `, / | office: (303) 492-8136                |     / ` \  ,.
|> >     ,/   /  ,      '  | email: bernard@cs.colorado.edu        | /        ''  \
|> More than likely that beyond 2000 episode was made a while back.  Check
|> the date at the end of the program.
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> George Rachor Jr.
|> Intel Corporation

I saw that one almost a year ago (?) so I know it's fairly old.
-- 


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davids@lanl.gov

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Witt Johnson)
Subject: Re: MaxAppleZoom.
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:37:23 GMT

MaxAppleZoom can be found at sumex-aim.stanford.edu in /info-mac/ex under the
name max-apple-zoom-143.hqx.  Good luck.

Hugh Johnson
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Troy, New York


Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Tue,  7 Apr 1992 16:21:25 -0400 
From: "Michael E. Fryd" <mf0e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: 8*24GC and Apple 16"monitor?

Is anyone using an Apple 16 inch monitor with an 8*24GC card in 16 bit color?

If so, which version of the 8*24GC do you have and how much extra memory
does it have?

I have a Rev A 8*24 GC (upgraded with Rev B ROMS) with no extra memory,
and I only get up to 8 bit color.

Apple's "Consumer Assistance Center" (800-776-2333) originally told
me that my configuration would work in 16 bit color (I bought the ROM
upgrade based on their recommendation).  They now tell me that I need
to buy more memory for the 8*24 GC (list price $400) in order
to get 16 bit color.  They were wrong the first time, and I am hesitant
to spend $400 without confirmation of their advice.

Has anybody gotten 16 bit color to work on an upgraded 8*24GC? and
if so how did you do it?

Configuration: Mac IIfx, 20MB RAM, System 7.0.1, tuner 1.1

Thanks

Michael Fryd                      (412) 751-5557
Michael.Fryd@cmu.edu          Fax (412) 751-8403


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: butler@quest.comm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
Subject: Re: LC II/IIsi Comparisons.
Reply-To: butler@quest.comm.mot.com (Jim Butler)
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:44:29 GMT

In article <D88-JWA.92Apr3210635@hemul.nada.kth.se>, d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:

|> 
|>    Isn't the LC II a 16 MHz machine, and the IIsi a 20 MHz?
|> 
|> That's true, but it's offset by the IIsi internal video coming
|> from RAM, while the LC has VRAM. HOWEVER: the LC has only a
|> 16 bit data path, making it as slow as the Classic II; whereas
|> the IIsi has full bus width, and might even be a little faster
|> than the SE/30 (in b/w mode at least)




	The slowup in the IIsi due to video RAM usage may be OVERCOME by
setting the disk RAM cache to 384kb (or greater) and rebooting.


	Execution speed tests with my machine (doing the things *I* do)
demonstrated that the speed was the same in B/W or 256 color modes.


	Thus, the IIsi is always much faster than the LC because of its
higher uP speed and it's 32bit bus (at least, in my tests).

	Jim

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: cmwand@leland.Stanford.EDU (Christopher Wand)
Subject: Opinions of Supra Fax Modem wanted...
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 04:54:05 GMT

I am in  the process of looking to purchase a fax/data modem.  I am looking
for opinions about the various products out on the market, both positive
and negative.  I am however, sort of leaning towards the Supra Fax Modem (Plus)
and would like to know if other people out there have any experience with 
Supra modems.  All suggestions/info/opinions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

-Chris Wand
cmwand@leland.stanford.edu

P.S. Email me or post if appropriate.


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dirt. When he kissed her she fell apart. At the funeral when the preacher said
'Dust to dust,' some people laughed. So he shot them. At his hanging he said
to the others, 'I'll be waiting in heaven-with a gun.'"      -Jack Handey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jdm@boulder.colorado.edu (James D. Meiss)
Subject: source for external harddrive case?
Organization: University of Colorado
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:32:20 GMT

	I'm thinking of replacing my internal 80Meg Quantum drive with a larger drive.
I'd like to keep the 80 Meg drive as an external drive.  

	Does anyone know of a source for a case for this drive?  I asked one
manufacturer if I could by an external drive and swap the two, and they
said "Sure, but it voids the warranty". So I don't want to do that.


Thanks
Jim Meiss
jdm@boulder.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: torsten@fff.chem.utah.edu (Torsten Walter)
Subject: converting to 220 V
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:04:17 GMT

Does anyone know how to convert a Classic II from 110 to 220 V?

Is it necessary to do any changes on the frequency setting if the current  
is running on 50 Hz?

					Torsten

Please e-mail, as I am not reading this newsgroup:

torsten@fff.chem.utah.edu


Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: The LCII FUBAR
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 16:47:36 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na

In article <1992Apr08.152957.28878@ozrout.uucp> grenade@ozrout.uucp (Kate McDonnell) writes:
>Another LCII question: The Macworld article states that the LCII
>was designed in a less than optimal way in order to keep its
>price the same as the LC. A call to my dealer this morning
>elicited hoots and giggles at the very idea.
>
>What gives? I'm in Canada, so I guess it's possible the rules are
>different here - but does anyone have an explanation for this?

Define 'optimal'.  IMO, an optimal design for the LCII would have been
a Mac IIcx + built-in VRAM - Nubus slots + PDS slot.  Which is almost
the same thing as a IIsi...

-- 
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Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: scott@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Scott Howard)
Subject: LC II whining
Summary: Get a IIsi if you want a more powerful machine
Keywords: cut it out!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:50:42 GMT

At the risk of interjecting a rational comment into a thread,
consider that Apple is a for-profit corporation and the practice of
product positioning is a time honored means of increasing
sales.

If you want a more powerful machine, then buy a different one.

--
	    "Language is a virus from Outer Space."
				    - William S. Burroughs

Organization: Fifth yr. senior, IM - Graphic Communications, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Mon,  6 Apr 1992 17:30:24 -0400 
From: David McClain Koltas <dk2l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: NEED HELP re:Mail order


I'm planning on ordering a Mac system by mail order.  If you have any
strong oppinions (positive or negative) about companies you've delt with
in the past, please send me Email so that I can make the best choice.

Please Reply Directly to
dk2l+@andrew.cmu.edu

thanks in advance,

-dave
From: theo@cs.vu.nl (Theo Vermeer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Termal Transfer Printer
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:16:15 GMT
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam


Is there anybody who has some experience with the Apple Thermal Transfer
Printer. Particulary I want to know the dipswitch settings, and how I
van change the baudrate.
Any information would be welcome.

Theo

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From: nwc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Einstuerzende Neubauten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Micron XCEED report!
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:09:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Apr8.180930.23663
Reply-To: nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

FYI, I posted a report that my monitor did not work properly with the new
Micron XCEED30 color card for the SE/30. It was indeed a timing/sync
problem. The problem lies in the particular pinouts. I don't know how to
make a cord, so I'm having one made for me. This tends to suck, since
it's going to cost me around $33 for it to be specially made.

Micron says that the card works with SOME VGA monitors. The GoldStar 1450Plus
is one of the "not" monitors. Well, not without a special adapter. Oh well.
It's better than having to buy another monitor, though. Just thought that it
was of general interest, since half the world of SE/30s wants to expand.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Appletalk printing problems
From: noah@acs.harding.edu
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:32:04 -0500
Reply-To: noah@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

In article <1992Apr8.191112.15100@bio.vu.nl>, ebido@bio.vu.nl (Etienne Bido) writes:
>We are having problems printing from our Macs to laserprinters over
>appletalk. It doesn't matter if the laserprinters are in the same zone
>or in a different zone than the Mac. There are several errors that will
>be displayed. (randomly?).The most occuring errors are:
>
>"Problems with appletalk"    or
>"A printing error occured"   or
>The mac just beeps and stops the printing      or
>A complete system hang-up.       or 
>
>a combination of the above.
>
>Those errors seem to be completely random, sometimes printing goes
>without problems for half an hour. than the errors start, giving 
>the different errors randomly.
>
>The only thing we can do is keep trying to print because 1 in every 10
>times it will go through.
>
>Does the mac get influenced by the position of the sun/moon, or the 
>winddirection or something? It sometimes looks like it.
>-- 
>Etienne Bido			|ebido@bio.vu.nl    
>Vrye Universiteit		|bido@chem.vu.nl
>Amsterdam
>The Netherlands

I am curious. Which version of Apple Share are you using. I know that we had
trouble running Apple share 3.0 and using the *feature* print spooler. We shut
off print spooler in Apple Share  3.0 and remove print monitor from all the
machines in the lab. You might try that. Let me know.
jtn 
e-mail -- noah@acs.harding.edu
From: jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu (Johan A. Grape)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Personal Laserwriter NT
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:40:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu

Yesterday, I popped the circuitboard out of my PLW NT, and found that
there are four SIMM like slots.  Two obviously contain the 2 Megs of
ROM, but the other two contain some very strange looking SIMM's (Correct
me if I am wrong)

My question is - is it possible to upgrade the RAM at all.  Can the
SIMM - look alikes be exchanged for higher capacity SIMMs, or am I
totally wrong?  Also - if all the ROM is in the two ROM SIMMs, shouldn't it
be easy to produce replacement ROMs that have a larger capacity (35 fonts)?

I am really happy with my printer, and I have no complaints with the speed or
anything like that, but would like to consider getting more memory or larger
SIMMs so that I could have more fonts resident.  Some of the 12 supplied 
fonts are just never going to be used - must have been cheap for apple to 
by the license from Adobe (That is not a complaint).

Thanks for any help.  Please e-mail me  (Don't waste bandwidth)

Regardss
Johan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: clc3@wuecl.wustl.edu (Christopher L. Conser)
Subject: MaxAppleZoom.
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:57:58 GMT

Where can I ftp MaxAppZoom from and in what specific directory is it in?
Chris Conser
From: wud@acf5.NYU.EDU (David Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE/30 vs IIsi
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:53:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New York University, New York

pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner) writes:

>Both machines are using 13" color monitors.  The SE/30 uses an
>unaccelerated card, the IIsi uses built in video (hence the large disk
>cache)
The SE/30's video board runs on the PDS slot, which allows for faster transfer
than video boards on the Nu-Bus.  But at 1-bit mode, built-in video on the
IIsi should have a even faster transfer rate, at least that is the case
for my IIci.
-Dave Wu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner)
Subject: SE/30 vs IIsi
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:11:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY


I have a IIsi with 9 megs of RAM and the disk cache set at 768k.  My
girlfriend uses SE/30's at work for DTP, spreadsheets and word
processing.  She's sure that the machines at work run faster than my
IIsi.  The SE/30's external video is not accelerated, and with the
IIsi even in 1 bit mode, she believes the SE/30's are faster.
Granted, I'm using 7.0.1 and she's using 6.0.5, but even when my
machine was running under 6.0.7, she had the same complaint.  

Now this hasn't been verified with speedometer or anything, I suppose
it's more of a subjective thing.  Since she told me this I've
installed a DayStar FastCache with an FPU, and she hasn't used it
since then.

In the comparison between machines on page 138 of the May Macworld,
the SE/30 consistently beats the IIsi.

Now my question is, is this because the IIsi they use is just out of
the box with no minor tweaks such as setting up the disk cache so that
the video doesn't fight with applications for the use of the same RAM
space?  Or is the 16 MHz SE/30 just plain faster than the 20 MHz IIsi.

I don't get it.

--Peter K.


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From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: HP Laserjet IIIP
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:39:17 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

I recently bought a HP Laserjet IIIP for my PC.  I am thinking of replacing the
PC with a Mac (probably a Quadra 700), but I have heard discouraging things about
the prospect of getting the printer to work with a Mac.  I've been led to believe
that I need to upgrade the memory, buy an Apple interface, and get the Postscript
upgrade!  The cost quote was almost as much as I paid for the printer in the
first place!  How much of this (if at all) is true?  Note that I don't really
need Postscript, since most of my use is for Quicken, Taxcut, etc...  Can someone
give me the straight scoop?

-- 

Dan S.
From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Powerbook 100: monitor and quickdraw?
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:39:34 GMT
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: eric@praxis.co.uk's message of 6 Apr 92 10:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.104244.8666@praxis.co.uk> eric@praxis.co.uk (Eric Nelson) writes:

   I have been told they do not run Colour Quickdraw. Is this true and if
   so, will it affect me? (I would be using the powerbook occasionally with
   graphic programs such as Freehand and Macdraw Pro). Would it not just be
   the same as say an LC with the monitor in B/W mode?

The PB100 doesn't have Colour QD. Whether this would affect graphics programs
I don't know. Presumably they will let you work with colour even though the
machine isn't displaying it. I would *expect* them not to care that they
don't even have Colour QD.

   On a similar topic, I would also like in the future to connect an
   external monitor. I followed a recent discussion, but it seemed to talk
   about the 140 and 170. Can a 100 be connected to an external and in
   particular can it drive the monitor in colour?

There are external monitors available for the PB100, but I don't know
how they work. My understanding is that Colour QD provides the
software functionality required (shared desktop over multiple
multi-depth screens), and since the PB100 lacks this I don't know what
functionality is provided and how it's installed. I *do* know that you
can't get colour.

Nick.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: mike@virgo.math.tau.ac.il (Mike Goldstein )
Subject: Mac Classic Accelarator
Organization: Tel Aviv University School of Math and CS, ISRAEL
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 08:49:58 GMT

For Sale: 16 Mhz accelarator for the Macintosh Classic.
It doubles the computers speed and SCSI operations.
It's about 6 months old, still udner warranty, made by Harris Laboratories.
The name of the product is the Performer and it sells for approx $245 new.
I want $185 for it.

Please contact me only if you live in the continental USA.
Please contact me by phone (310) 305-7578, fax (310) 822 9136
or email (ICZYISY@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU   internet)

Thanks.