HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: New Service
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: austin
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 22:26:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan06.161213.28731@dogface.austin.tx.us>  
bei@dogface.austin.tx.us (Bob Izenberg) writes:
>>In article <X97wwB1w165w@underg.ucf.org> max@underg.ucf.org (Max Cray)  
writes:
>>
>># I think you are misunderstanding. What they are talking is about is 10Meg
>># for ftping files, not 10Meg of info from all your packets.
>>
>>This was likely a tough call, balancing demand for bandwidth and disk space
>>against the need to share it with those who want it.  I will say that by the
>>standards that I've seen set where resources were rationed, ten megabytes is
>>low...  Fifteen or twenty megabytes is a more common limit.
>>
>># This is the cheapest service yet that I have found for Joe Public in Austin
>># to access the Internet to ftp and telnet, although there are some serious
>># disadvantages, the lack of SLIP access being the biggest in my opinion.
>>
>>PLUG: This will likely come up at the January meeting.
>>Let's vote...  Would you prefer to use a public access Internet system via:
>>
>>	(1) A shell account on a Unix machine that you dial up.
>>	(2) A menu on a Unix machine that you dial up.
>>	(3) A SLIP or PPP extension to your local operating system.
>>	(4) Telekinesis and astral projection.
>>
>>Send your replies and I'll post the tally in a week.
>>Option (4) is already in place :-) but most people don't have the technology
>>or CPU horsepower to take advantage of it.  Of course, I'm kidding, but I'd
>>like to hear what people want.  Then, I'd like to hear how we can bring it to
>>them for less than a king's ransom.
>>That last line likely has a few of the more vocal chartered accountants who
>>grace this group reaching for their keyboards.  Rest assured that the good
>>business sense of market exposure and positive PR is not lost on high tech
>>companies these days.  We will find people and businesses that will share our
>>vision...  What we don't know is when that will be.  Please be patient with  
us
>>while we deliver what's feasible (and desired) first, for as close to zero
>>cost to you as we can make it.
>>
>>Bob
>>-- 
>>  
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>>           HOME: bei@dogface.austin.tx.us  WORK: bobi@vswr.sps.mot.com
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My NeXT is just beggin' to SLIP or PPP in to the Matrix!!!!

'93 is gonna' be great!

See ya' on the 20th.
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Advanced Micro Devices	[self dream-on];
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (NeXTmail preferred)
From: max@underg.ucf.org (Max Cray)
Newsgroups: austin.public-net
Subject: Re: Free TCP/IP Info
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 15:11:48 CST
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation

max@underg.ucf.org (Max Cray) writes:

> Confused about TCP/IP? Want more info? Process Software Corp (959 Concord St,
> Framington, MA 01701, 1-800-722-7770) is giving away a FREE booklet:
> 
> TCP/IP Defined: A Practical Guide to TCP/IP Networking Terms and Concepts

I just got this today. Its really a neat little refrence.

                                          -= Max =-

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From: petrilli@nextover.pe.utexas.edu (Chris Petrilli)
Newsgroups: austin.public-net
Subject: ATTN: Mikael Behrens
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:56:45 GMT
Reply-To: petrilli@nextover.pe.utexas.edu
Distribution: austin

Mikael,

If you could send me the mail again, but with a couple changes:

	1) a REAL email address... <mbahrens@scout> isn't one.
	2) non NeXT format please

Thanks,
Chris
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From: petrilli@nextover.pe.utexas.edu (Chris Petrilli)
Newsgroups: austin.public-net
Subject: Re: New Service
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:15:08 GMT
Reply-To: petrilli@nextover.pe.utexas.edu
Distribution: austin

In article <1992Dec24.050948.2505@wixer.cactus.org> sparky@wixer.cactus.org  
(Timothy Sheridan) writes:
> Hi all,  Merry holidays!!:)

ICK I was sick thanks :-)

> .....900Mb a month?!...Chris you need help:) There arnt 900Mb of things 
> knowing....

Don't tell t, I just do a lot of development which requires me to do a lot of  
FTPing, etc... let's not even talk about the week of IETF when I crashed a  
router at UT because of the video multicast :-)

> The Library of congress has a group in special projects that is interested  
in
> building a "library without walls". I talked with some folks there and they
> have some big people interested in copie right law. --more later

Thy do need a lot of work... might talk with the EFF and CPSR about that kind  
of fun stuff.  Also the LPF.

> Also, is there a chance that the public net could be funded like a news  
paper
> with an advertisment section? have we found enough lieh way in the charters
> of internet carriers???

This was one option we have considered... 

Chris
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Newsgroups: austin.public-net
From: george@wixer.cactus.org (George Wenzel)
Subject: Re: Various Responses
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Distribution: austin
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 17:30:53 GMT

Much too much to quote... but I'd have to say I agree with most of Chris's
points...  Many of which have a bottom line ofmoney being a limited
resource, and all the day dreaming in the world won't change that.

I have been running a public access UNIX host for some time.  It takes a
lot of work, a lot of people helping run the thing, and a LOT of money.
I charge $10 a month for access ($5 a month for EFF members and students)
or $50 a year for those wanting to save money.  To some it sounds like a
lot of money, to many *any* money is too much.  Well, the bottom line for
me is paying the phone bill, which *I* still pay the majority of... along
with the rent for the office housing the system.

I am putting together a group of people to fund an internet connection for
wixer, as well as other enhancements.  Many people are putting in thousands
of dollars (and thousands of dollars in time) making things happen.

The goals of the system are connecting people together with a good mix of
services... free isn't a reasonable cost, it would mean *I* would have to
fund the whole system.

I have said it here before, and I'll say it again, you show me how I don't
have to pay the whole bill myself, and still make it free for the users,
and I'll set you up with everything you need (hardware wise) to run your
system.

I am already running a system as you describe here.  No we arn't on the
internet yet... but thats coming soon.  It's going to be limited, but the
limits are part of the real world.

George
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george@wixer.cactus.org          |  "faster, smarter and costs less..."
cactus.org!wixer!george          |  "Hardware solutions for the real world."
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From: max@underg.ucf.org (Max Cray)
Newsgroups: austin.public-net
Subject: Free Internet Training
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 14:32:57 CST
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation


I am thinking of providing FREE Internet training. Probably in my home
to start out with. This would be for folks relatively new to the Internet
and would be from a user's point of view.

We would probably uses Ed Kroll's new book as an optional text. I would
provide hands on demonstrations of dialup access, SLIP, telnet, ftp,
archie, etc. Will also evaluate and comment on the various network providers.
Bring a disk, and I will provide additional public domain text files, and
software.

Why can't everyone be a net expert?

Is there any interest in this?

                                          -= Max =-

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Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: jonl@tic.com (Jon Lebkowsky)
Subject: 2600 at Europa
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:27:44 GMT

Emmanuel Goldstein, editor of 2600, will be at Europa Books at 4PM on
Sunday, January 17. This will be our chance to gather socially just
before the Steve Jackson Trial, which begins on January 19th, as well
as our chance to meet and speak with Emmanuel.


Newsgroups: austin.general
From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Subject: I have a big deck
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:40:11 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin

I'm having trouble with my deck, (said the straight man.)

Anyone know a good deck repairman fix it type dude?


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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: hamm@ssdt-bluestein.sps.mot.com (Steve Hamm)
Subject: Re: Cedar fever! Allergists?
Reply-To: hamm@ssdt-bluestein.sps.mot.com (Steve Hamm)
Organization: Motorola Inc., SPS SSDT, Austin, Texas.
Distribution: austin
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:05:00


---On Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:10:29 GMT, will@austin.ibm.com (Will Fiveash) said:

Will> I like Dr Findlay (345 7635).

So did a number of other people.  Evidently a fine doctor.
Unfortunately Dr. Findlay passed away on Jan. 3.  The obituary
appeared in the American Statesman yesterday.  Dr. Findlay had been
fighting cancer for some time and had not been taking new patients.

Dr. Findlay's partner, Dr. William Howland, has taken over most of the
practice, I am told.

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From: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: CFC's and the ozone layer
Date: 13 Jan 1993 00:54:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
NNTP-Posting-Host: mickey.cc.utexas.edu

According to amck@rowdy.mcc.com (Alan McKendree):
>Your faith in the wisdom of the U. S. Congress is touching although
>unjustified.  This halt is more a result of hysterical
>environmentalist lobbying groups selling the Congress on the idea that
>"something must be done" (and incidentally giving them more to do to
>justify their continued existence), using fudged or suspect data, than
>the result of clear and accepted fact.

Indeed, NASA's leading "ozone-hea" is Paul Hansen.  His computer models
from the mid 80's are largerly responsible for the ozone panic  He and most
other researchers have used models that only account for a small percentage
of the earth.  They fail to take into consideration certain weather
patterns, previous climate data, and the oceans!  How can you say anything
about the atmosphere if you exclude 75% of the earth's surface area!

What's more, Hansen has more or less come out and said (and I paraphrase),
that each and every scientist needs to decide the right balance between
honesty and being an effective activist.  I hardly call this being
scientific.

>Read _Trashing the Planet_ by Dixie Lee Ray for more info on this and
>numerous other environmental topics.  If I remember correctly, her
>book states that each CFC molecule destroys on the order of 60 O3
>molecules, not "hundreds of thousands".

You can find this in paperback in the "Environment/Nature" sections of most
book stores (B. Dalton, Waldenbooks, and Book Stop all have it).

>It also contains the story of another stupid ban created by the
>Congress, this time on DDT, largely as a result of the (in)famous book
>_Silent Spring_.  Ray observes that as a result of this ban, diseases
>which had nearly been eliminated through insect control are once again
>a problem, killing people by the millions in third-world countries;
>literally more people than were killed in some wars.

Elizabeth Whelan in "Toxic Terror" devotres a few dozen pages to the DDT
issue.  She cites documented statistics which more or less prove the
efficacy of DDT and the resulting problems from its ban.  Copies of this
are available upon request from me (sorry, the book is no longer in print).

-- 
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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: amck@rowdy.mcc.com (Alan McKendree)
Subject: Re: CFC's and the ozone layer
Organization: MCC, Austin, Texas
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:40:50 GMT

In article <3309@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> billc@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Bill Carter) writes:
>   A researcher on the show who had studied the arctic gases stated that
>   there is now no doubt that CFC's are at the root of the depletion.
>   The evidence must be fairly convincing, because the U.S. is halting
>   all CFC production in 1995.

Your faith in the wisdom of the U. S. Congress is touching although
unjustified.  This halt is more a result of hysterical
environmentalist lobbying groups selling the Congress on the idea that
"something must be done" (and incidentally giving them more to do to
justify their continued existence), using fudged or suspect data, than
the result of clear and accepted fact.

Read _Trashing the Planet_ by Dixie Lee Ray for more info on this and
numerous other environmental topics.  If I remember correctly, her
book states that each CFC molecule destroys on the order of 60 O3
molecules, not "hundreds of thousands".

It also contains the story of another stupid ban created by the
Congress, this time on DDT, largely as a result of the (in)famous book
_Silent Spring_.  Ray observes that as a result of this ban, diseases
which had nearly been eliminated through insect control are once again
a problem, killing people by the millions in third-world countries;
literally more people than were killed in some wars.  (Reference on
request, I don't have the book in front of me.)  Whatever the
environmentalists' motive in this action, it was certainly _not_ the
improvement of the human condition.

Not only that, but DDT is a relatively harmless chemical; I have
personally spoken with people who used to blow it in each others'
faces as a joke (back when it was legal).

So just remember when A) you are faced with a mandatory (albeit
completely needless) airconditioner or refrigerator repair bill in the
hundreds of dollars (mechanics are now _required by law_ to repair
these leaks before adding more Freon) and B) people start getting
injured and/or killed (again, needlessly) by the flammable and toxic
coolants which were rejected by the marketplace years ago in favor of
non-flammable, non-toxic Freon, that you have the Congress and
environmentalist extremists to thank.

-- 
Alan McKendree          Opinions posted by me are mine, only.
amck@rowdy.mcc.com         Who/Little Feat/racquetball/Rand
Newsgroups: austin.general
From: saeed@cayman.amd.com (Saeed Motamedrasa)
Subject: Re: Miniblinds info wanted
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: austin
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:02:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.153705.5348@oakhill.sps.mot.com> shantanu@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Shantanu Ganguly) writes:
>In the process of selecting miniblinds, I've been talking to the following
>people :
>
>a) Bobby from Mr. Miniblinds
>b) Chris from Custom Touch
>c) Best Blinds of Austin
>d) Colorel Blinds.
>
>Since I've been given a few varied quotes by different people (along with 
>stories that every other store in town is a fly-by-the night operator), 
>I would like to hear of your opinion about these establishments before 
>making a decision. I will summarize if there is sufficient interest.

Try "All About Blinds".  Their phone number is 331-6082.  This is a
small, family owned/operated, business with reasonable prices, and
EXCELLENT/COURTEOUS service.  They don't do much of advertising, and
get most of their business through word-of-mouth.  They provide free
consultation, and help with blind selection, color coordination, and
much more.  I have used them on a number of occasions, and have
always been happy with their services.  Give'em a call.

Saeed
From: captain@tigger.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Panasonic Bread Machines - where's a good price?
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:21:26 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: UT Austin Computation Center, Unix Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I got my bread machine from William's Sonoma, and I've been very happy with
it, and even happier with the service.  Just watch out for snooty obnoxious
patrons when shopping there.

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From: ifaq570@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Kitchen)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Usenet sites
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:57:19 GMT
Reply-To: ifaq570@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Kitchen)
Distribution: austin
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Originator: ifaq570@happy.cc.utexas.edu


	A couple of friends are looking for either a BBS or netsite that
will give them access to the Usenet News.  They are wanting to reach the
arts/hobbies areas.  If anyone has any suggestions for getting Usenet
outside of the University, please send me some Email.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Allen Kitchen
ifaq570@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: pmh2962@tamsun.tamu.edu (Pat Hayes)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: When is Spring Break for <tu> and _A&M?_
Date: 6 Jan 1993 11:55:18 -0600
Organization: Meteorology, TAMU, CS, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

Darren Lilie writes:
>>Can someone tell me what the dates are for Spring Break for
>>UT and A&M this year.
>>Thanks,
>>Darren
---
According to the Spring 93 Class Schedule, A&M's Spring Break
starts on 15 March.  Goes thru that week (15-19 Mar).


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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker)
Subject: Audio Books/Earful Of Books
Originator: jlpicard@woofer.austin.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:34:03 GMT
Reply-To: jlpicard@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Object Technology Products


Happy Holidays/New Year, everyone!

My girlfriend and I drove back to Illinois this holiday past, but 
before we left we got a membership at Earful Of Books on 183 and 
something-or-other (it's in the same shopping center as The Laff
Stop).

I gotta tellya, these audio book thingies are the best thing that
ever happened to long distance driving! We rented _The Firm_ by
John Grisham, on 10 90-minute cassettes, and _Wet Work_ by 
Christopher Buckley, on 7 90-minute cassettes. Both were unabridged,
and they made for one of the most enjoyable road trips I've had in
years.

Membership was $10. The book rental prices vary depending on the
length and how long you keep them...I think I paid something like
$15 for _The Firm_ for a week. They have a pretty good variety of 
books there (although I thought the SF section was somewhat lacking)
...a big collection of mysteries and thrillers, plus humor, general 
fiction (I was surprised to see Ayn Rand's _The Fountainhead_, 
unabridged :-), various&sundry other stuff. And the nicest part is
that most of them are unabridged.

Also, they have a nice deal where, for $1, they'll give you a postage-
paid, self addressed 4th class mail envelope to return the tape (and
the tape is considered to be "returned" on its postmark date).

And they also have insurance, just in case your tape player decides
to chow down on one of the cassettes. And it's (get this) $.25 (that's
twenty five _cents_) per _book_. Nice (for once) to get insurance 
without getting painfully gouged.

If you're going to be doing any long road trips, I'd enthusiastically
recommend that you check this place out. I've never had 2200 miles
slide by so quickly and easily.

Craig

Not the opinion of my employer.






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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: will@austin.ibm.com (Will Fiveash)
Subject: Re: Cedar fever! Allergists?
Originator: will@vulcan.austin.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:10:29 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM, Austin, Tx.

In article <HAMM.93Jan5073431@toto.ssdt-bluestein.sps.mot.com> hamm@ssdt-bluestein.sps.mot.com (Steve Hamm) writes:
>
>The mountain cedar (actually Ashe junipers, for the picky) are again
>helping the makers of antihistamines get rich at my expense.  (At
>least Tavist is over-the-counter now!)
>
>Anyone have an allergist they'd particularly recommend?  I'd like to
>find a particularly thorough and competent allergist.

I like Dr Findlay (345 7635).

-- 
Will Fiveash,  "My opinions above, facts below."
Internet:  will@austin.ibm.com 
Xref: sparky austin.general:3837 misc.consumers.house:16337
From: captain@tigger.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: austin.general,misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Ground-source Heat Pumps
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:40:40 GMT
Followup-To: austin.general
Organization: UT Austin Computation Center, Unix Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Kyle Harper (kyleh@oakhill.sps.mot.com) wrote:
: We are about to build a house and have been researching the idea of installing
: a ground source (aka, "water-source", or "water-to-air") heat pump system. I
: am interested in opinions and feedback from anyone who has used them,
: particularly in the central Texas area. Specific interest is the following:
: 
: 1) *Actual* energy savings as compared with conventional heat pumps and gas
: 	(please include square footage, insulation values, etc., if possible) 
: 2) Recommendations (or warnings) of specific heat pump manufacturers and 
: 	installers
: 3) Opinions, testimonials, disappointments, do's and dont's, flames
: 


I used to live in Houston, and we had just such a system.  It was really 
flakey, and the horrifying thing about it is that when the freon leaks
out, it doesn't just go up & kill some ozone, it goes into the GROUNDWATER!
It may not kill you, but it will find its way into someone's well water,
or even Barton Springs! and that's not good.  

Check into some of the modern AC units, and read all of the home builder's
magazines you can get your hands on.  There are some very effecient units
out there that pose less of an environment risk than a groundwater system.
Good luck!

|The opinions expressed above are merely the result of chaotic synapse firings|
|Electrics and electronics work on smoke. If you let the smoke       -   O    |
|out, they stop working.   --   Fight AIDS.  Play safe.                |      |
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