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From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dry Sump Lubrication
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:29:46 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <17gv08INNrik@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, scooper@wappo.ucsc.edu (Scott
Cooper) wrote:
> 
> 	Besides being a motorcycle fan, I am also the unfortunate owner of an
> American V8 powered cage.  Knowing a thing or two about engine building, having
> just gone through the despicable experience, isn't there such a thing as a
> "windage tray" that covers the crankshaft and keeps oil from splashing (and thereby
> causing horsepower-robbing drag) onto it?  
> 
> 	Wouldn't that be simpler than using a dry sump?  Is that why I've never
> heard of a dry-sump-lubed automobile?  Is there such a beast?

There've been many many dry sump lubricated car engines (the Porsche 911 
is/was one of them). In formula cars, one of the primary reasons for a dry
sump is to lower the crankshaft in the chassis and improve the handling
of the vehicle. 

I question a little how much more power a single or twin can make by
reducing
the crankcase volume.... not much, as I estimate it. It's the oil control, 
additional cooling and ability to locate the oil reservoir somewhere other 
than the bottom of the motor that makes dry sump a desireable thing on
certain
motorcycles... remember that a long stroke 500cc single is a very tall
engine
as produced by the traditional Brits: add a sump to the bottom and the
crankshaft is higher in the frame by a couple inches. Likewise the Harley.

And, by the way, Honda single cam 750 fours were also dry sump lubricated. 
Wet sump is simpler, cheaper, easier to make oil tight. If you can position
the rest of the package well and control the foaming/oil splash etc.
problems
adequately, there's no reason to utilize it.
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markk@tcsi.tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: what kind of oil needed for winter storage??
Originator: markk@rigel
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:31:23 GMT

ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:

[about posting on motorcycle storage]
>I'll  provide it via email on request. (unless you gave me shit about
>deer/emergency equipment/helmets/etc) For those special people, I have a
>new posting in the works about how adding Marvel Mystery Oil to your diet
>will improve your sex life :-)

Excuse me, Ron?  About that Marvel Mystery Oil suggestion you gave me.
I really can't confirm your claims re: sex life.  Your "Marvel Mystery
Milkshake" seems to do more for my performance on the toilet than in
the bed.  I was using a 3/1 ratio of MMO and Lemon Pledge, should I
try more Lemon Pledge?

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
"But I feel real clean and lemony inside" - Marvel Mystery Man
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Can't find Meguirs.  Toothpaste?
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:13:33 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MSUS

In article <9900970@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
wrote:
> 
> Re: Meguire's
> 
> The Champion Auto Parts store near me carries Meguire's.
> 
> I don't know why. But you Meguire-less folks could try calling some
> auto parts places.
> 

Holy shit, how far can this thread go?  I don't know about you people,
but when my windshield got scratched, I threw it away.  End of problem.
From: kikila@heartland.Eng.Sun.COM (Chris Cenizal)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: High speed wobble woes
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:43:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kikila@heartland.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: heartland

In article 16726@spdc.ti.com, achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>In article <ALAVIGNE.92Sep3105117@bmerh930.bnr.ca> alavigne@bmerh930.bnr.ca (Andrew Lavigne) writes:
>>
>>My friend has a 1983 maxim 400 that he claims has a high speed wobble, 
>>usually starting at about 80mph.  Upon looking at the front forks, everything
>>seemed to be in order.  Some guy said something about moving the forks up
>>to reduce bending.  The air pressure in the tire seems ok, too.  
>>What are the real causes of high speed wobble outside
>>of external forces (cracks in pavement, wind, etc....)????  I don't want 
>>Dennis to wipe out!

Have you check the wheels?  I'm not sure what kind of wheels your
Maxim(sorry, I have yet to see one) but if they are spokes then you
may need to re-tune or replace the spokes.  My buddy has a 
Suzuki Madura .  I rode with him  (H1 on a  Tuesday afternoon) 
and when we would hit 70~75mph,  his  bike would wobble and
would get worse as he accelerated and decelerated. It would disappear
around ~60mph.  I know what you mean.  He was lead.  It is a scary site to see. 
He's not riding his bike now,  he's waiting for his spokes to get here.
                    
                  
Chris      

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Painting My GoldWing
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:05:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.161139.2576@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>In article <!qknmyn.dhawk@netcom.com> dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins) writes:
>>
>>OK, my paint job on the GoldWing is completely shot. It was red and
>>the sun has bleached it to white.  No kidding.  
...
>>can't just use spray paint?  How bad could it look?  I could always
>>sand it if I didn't like it and turn it over to a professional.

>I have a 5hp compressor, several spray guns, sanders, etc. The last bike I 
...
>It turned out to be a five foot paint job (looked good at distances of 5' or 
>more). If you can't do a reasonably good job of painting with quality spray
>cans, then you probably won't with a professional spray gun either. Preparation
>is at least 90% responsible for the quality of the final result. A properly 
>prepped spray can job will look better than a poorly prepped compressor/gun.
>Of course, a properly prepped job done with a compressor and quality gun in 
>the hands of a qualified user is best.

The other option is a properly prepped job done with a high quality
brush, and the proper type of brush-appliable paint.  Unfortunately,
I don't remember what the proper type of paint is....  But I remember
being impressed by a series of 1958 ads in Motor Course (which most of us
outside the U.K. haven't seen).  The copy was something like:

	Team Spagthorpe gets top appearance on their racing
	cars using fuel-resistant Valspar laquer, brush applied.

(No, it wasn't Team Spagthorpe, but it was a fairly respectable team
at the time, perhaps even Lotus.  And yes, it was Valspar, though I don't
know if they're still in business - their Chicago area paint works
burned down a few years ago.  At any rate, the photo in the ad showed
a mirror finish on an open wheel race car, in a shade that must have
been British Racing Green, if it were in color.)  Using some cheap
rust resistant paint (True Value Exo-Rust) on my swingarm and assorted
rear suspension parts, I got a 2-foot finish.  It wasn't a "deep" finish,
like you'd get applying several thin coats, but with the right paint and
followup treatment, this can be taken care of.  The key is to find
someone knowlegeable about brush finishes to teach you what you need to
know.  (It wouldn't hurt to find someone who knows how to spell
"knowlegeable" either....)
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HOV lanes
From: Robert Chambers <RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 1 Sep 1992 14:05:35 EDT
Organization: CUNY/UCC VM Systems

High Occupancy Vehicles

R
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Where to get old bike parts...
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:28:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.093136.3717@spcvxb.spc.edu> havemann_l@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>
>
>I just pulled an old 66 Honda CB450 outa somebodys garage, where it has been
>sitting for the past 20 or so years. After making sure that it runs, and 
>everything else works (its only got 4000 miles on it :-) - I now need to
>replace most of the rubber on it - shock bushings, gaskets (it leaks like a 
>harley! :-)  and some other stuff too.  
>
>Anybody know of any mail order places that would sell this stuff? - the nearest 
>Honda dealer is many miles from here and not all that cooperative (as well as
>expensive)
>
>Also, somebody told me that this is the first year that Honda started importing
>bikes to the U.S of A.  Is this true?
>

Not by a long shot. This was the first year for the 450.

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com

From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:43:39 GMT
Subject: Re: lucas...
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) /  2:04 pm  Aug 28, 1992 /
In article <1700@necis.UUCP> dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.124154.22614@swlvx2.msd.ray.com>, csl@swlrei (SCOTT LILLIOTT) wrote:
>> Alan.Nunn@f526.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Alan Nunn) writes:
>
>>>     Lucas the prince of darkness or Lucas the inventor of darkness.
>> 
>> 	"A good day's work and home before dark"
>
>And then there's the quote attributed to Lucas Himself:
>        "Don't drive at night!"
>
----------
And then we have 'Joe Lucas cried, "Don't go out after dark!"'
From: loki@nazgul.physics.mcgill.ca (Loki Jorgenson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: FJ with horns
Summary: Baby's got new Fiamms
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:58:59 GMT
Organization: Centre for the Physics of Materials


	Not that this list needs another posting on installing
Fiamms, but Hey! I'm proud.

	I just put the electric "snail" pair in my '84 FJ.  It took
me a while to do it just right because I didn't want to settle for
putting one in the tail.  I customized a bracket from 3/4"x1/8"
aluminum, running it under the two top bolts which hold the sub-frame
cage on the front of the frame.  It runs long on either side and I
bent it so the Fiamm stock brackets would attach to it and aim them down
into the forks, one on each side, out the faring hole.  I used heavy
gauge wiring and an old car relay I found in my Cornflakes.  I took out
the old horn and ran their wires to the relay.

	Works well.  About as loud as a typical car horn.  Louder than
stock and bound to get some respect but certainly not air horns.
I paid $30 cdn at Canadian Tire.  Watch it though; I managed to run
down my battery while installing and testing it.  Luckily, I have a 
charger.

---                            _    ___
'gards,                        \\  / ___\
                                \\(=/___   
Loki Jorgenson                   \/ ___/         node:  loki@Physics.McGill.CA
Keeper of the Reviews (KotR)     / /             ftp:	ftp.Physics.McGill.CA
Physics, McGill University      / // \           fax:   (514) 398-6526
Montreal Quebec CANADA         / / \  \          phone: (514) 398-7027
                              / /   \  \
			     (o/     \__)
                    -*  Mechanically  misanthropic  *-
From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: (Was) riding clothes choices (Summary
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:40:42 GMT
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia

In article <1992Sep2.071007.413@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>>	What is the consensus on what to wear
>>	1> In-city riding
>> 
> helmet, high-tops, gloves, leather jacket.
  
Gee, Bob.  Both the other suggestions mention pants.  The other thread 
complains about cotton vs. demin.  I'd think there are better alternatives
than nekkid.  'Course, I guess you just want to show that you skipped your
vasectomy too, huh?

Oh yeah.  :-)

Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:30:27 GMT

chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman) writes:
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>>Nope. The "prime" position bypasses the vacuum switch so that you can
>>get gas into dry carbs without running the engine.

>There are, apparently, several versions of this puppy.  I swear to God
>that the one on the '80 GS550E in the yard has two positions, ON and
>RES, and they both rely on engine vacuum. I went out and _looked_ !
>No PRIME. But, I remember that the GS650E I used to have did indeed
>have the PRIME,  as well as ON and RES,  and that PRIME bypassed
>the vacuum thingie and let fuel flow freely. 	

Yes, there are a number of different types. The one on my old GS1000E
had the three postions you mention. But my point was that if you've
got a vacuum operated petcock with a "prime" position, "prime" does
not require vacuum from the engine to pass gas (as it were :-).
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 93 Goof2
Keywords: goof2 cbr
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:04:22 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1992Aug30.033849.1449@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> keb@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Ken E. Bartlett) writes:
>93 GOOf2
>I didn't get a chance to speak to anyone about them but 
>would assume that they haven't changed much.

Nope, the only major changes are cosmetic.  But I do think I like the
black & blue color scheme on my '92 better than the new color schemes JMHO.

Kevin Mills.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: vec@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Vance Cochrane)
Subject: Re: The man without a number
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:31:41 GMT

The trick to getting a DoD number is figuring out who the KoTL is. You have to
persevere and keep trying. But if you are lazy the KoTL's name is ^C.....
-- 
+------------------------------------------------------+
+ Vance Cochrane                Email: vec@Kodak.COM   +
+ Research Laboratories	        Voice: (716) 722-3709  +
+ Eastman Kodak Company	        Fax:   (716) 477-8681  +
+ Rochester, NY 14650-1826      DoD #: 0643            +
+ USA                           '91 CBR600F2           +
+                                                      +
+ "Didn't think I had it in me Spock, did you."        +
+ "No Sir."                                            +
+------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 13:44:36 GMT

dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA)) writes:
: 
: Hold on, isn`t centrifugal force just that misnomer given to describe the
: effect (angular) momentum has?
:
It's not a misnomer. Your physics teacher told you "Centrifugal force does 
not exist," because you can't describe it with the piddly Newtonian system
you were using. Other people have figured out how to work in non-inertial
reference frames, and for them, sitting on a rotating body and feeling
centrifugal force works just fine, thank you very much.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I have my DOD number!!!
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:40:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug30.221657.20962@news.nd.edu>, Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:

] I have been informed that the aforementioned KOTL is in fact not a
] panty-waist, ass-kissing flamer. He is, more appropriately stated, a
] righteous character. For it is he, this KOTL, no..... this HERO, who
] provides the means to achieve the small amount of adhesion, of loyalty,
] of PRIDE----that allows a group such as the Denizens of Doom to exist.

Nice try ....  I got my DoD number without asking publicly _once_!
               Not that the flamefest won't teach you lessons.  
   
               You should just pay attention.  Someone practically
_gave_ you the KotL's name.  You should shut up and watch for years.

 
] I proudly proclaim myself Denizen of Doom number 555. Long Live the DOD!!!
] Rich Swift,  DOD # 555         place .sig here

Not!
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 29 Aug 92 14:46:26 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1992Aug28.210334.24662@news.nd.edu> Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:
>Ive been reading this group for a while... Ive read most of
>the tripe and dribble that you so-called motorcyclists post (what a bunch
>of computer geeks) and Ive STILL been able to hold my lunch.
>This proves that I am probably more stout than the bulk of you biker
>wannabees (own a bike=biker??, bullshit.....).

Yawn!


>let Mr. Small have some fun with you after Im done just to really fuck
>you over.

Damn, you are one sick puppy.
>

>I havent had a vasectomy, but I do own two motorcycles (do you REALLY
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No need, huh?

-- 
I love the 3b2
The 3b2 is my friend.
From: barry@fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu (Barry B Burnette)
Subject: Re: Thanks a pant's full, DoD...
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:38:36 GMT
X-Posted-From: fsp2.gtri.gatech.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <0eaH9_a00iUz43urVW@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>...and fuck the lot of you.  I want to express my heartfelt disgust ...
>
>Oh well, live and learn.
>
>N.B. People who have taken the time to share their little stores of
>spagthorpe lore are exempt from this condemnation.  I don't think
>there's been a more pleasurable thread on r.m. ever.   
>-peter

Bravo Peter!

I love it!  This group sucks!  DoD sucks!  Their cheap bikes suck!
Bunch of non-riding, anti-social, self-proclaimed m.c. expert,
ugly woman marrying, computer geek, motorcyclist wanna be's!

Every time I see an ancient bike on the freeway, I think to myself...
DoD.

Every time I see an EX in the mountains, I think, "There's one of
those DoDers that posted, 'My EX has more than enough power...'",
as I pass him in a nice tight turn.  I like to watch these guys
brake and stand the bike up in the turn...such expert riders and all.

This group is supposed to be about bikes and riding, not about the
crap these people write.  One article about a RCR or something,
"Oh Seth, I'm so disappointed you were'nt there..."  Hey bud, keep 
your homo stuff to the email.  What a disgrace.  And to top it off
people post worth while articles, like peter here, and there are
no responses.  I thought bikers were of a kindred spirit.  Well,
they are... except for the wanna be bikers in this news.group.  So
you guys leave your old, small, slow bikes in the garage, write
your imaginary articles to this group, and leave the roads open
to people who really ride.

Good job peter!

DoDers please wear some sort of identifying clothing when you
ride so the rest of us can spot you.  After reading recent postings
concerning braking, I don't want one of you near me on the road.
You guys are more dangerous than the %$#@! tailgater or whatever. 

Yeah, I'm a squid, and I'll blow your "D"umpy "o"ld "D"ual off
the road... hopefully in a tight turn, but any old straight will
do.

                                Barry B.

It's not how fast you ride ...
It's how you ride fast!
You guys just would'nt understand.
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: motos on TV
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:20:15 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Aug25.090454.353@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us
(Bob Pasker) wrote:
> 
> In article <17deklINN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> > In article 220892231031@kip-55.apple.com, ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi) writes:
> >>"Shame" - story of a woman on a vacation/meditation riding her 
> >>          Honda VFR750 who gets involved in a rape incident in small town 

rbp, look carefully at the next line.

> >>          USA. Movie starts with logging truck causing her to do a 
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>          lowside. She repairs bike herself. Shows bikes and cycling 
              ^^^^^^^^
> >>          peripherally in a good light.
> > In an excellent light.  The heroine wore boots, a leather jacket,
> > gloves, and a full faced helmet every time she got on the bike.  She
> > also beat the shit out of the would-be rapist by kicking him in the
> > balls and smashing his face with her motorcycle repair parts.
>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> the director/author obviously is anti-japanese.  we all know that 
> japanese bikes don't break down.  in his effort to discredit 
> honyamkawzuki bikes as being of poor workmanship (otherwise why
> would they have spare *parts*), he has defamed motorcyclists in general. we
> should all write to the television station and complain. 

They sure can fall down, particularly when a logging truck runs into their 
lane. Yeah, I know: you throw that BMW bumblebee down a ditch regularly and
it never even gets scratched. Tough (tank-like), the beeemmdoubleewe.

Didja miss something in there, bob? :)
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========