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From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: New Joni Mitchell fan wants your help
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 24 Dec 92 05:36:55 GMT

Hi all, I have just recently discovered folk music (don't ask me
why it took so long, hey, I am only 22 :) and my first taste of it
has been wonderful, thanks to Joni Mitchell's _Clouds_ CD (and to
think the album is actually one year older than I am!)

My favorite songs off _Clouds_ are: The Gallery, Both Sides, Now,
I Don't Know Where I Stand, and yes, of course, Chelsea Morning :)

Would someone please directly me to more wonderful and beautiful
musics like these by Joni Mitchell, or to other musicians that I
should know about?  Please?  Pretty Please?

Thanks in advance.

email is preferred, but I read r.m.f now :)

Jimmy




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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.british
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: UK CD price fixing
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:46:18 GMT


Does anyone know if anything is being done to reduce the silly prices of
UK CDs? I thought this was being investigated by the MMC. Anyway, I've
just returned from a trip to Boston and spoke to a record buyer. He
said that on his trips to the UK, he gets CDs cheaper than the UK
buyers because he's going to be selling the CDs in the US. If the UK
manufacturers can afford to sell at the lower prices for export to the
US, then they can afford to sell at the same price for sale in the UK.
If this isn't a blantant example of price fixing, I dunno what is.
I got UK folk CDs in the US for about 8 pound each, about 2/3 of the
UK price. If they can still make a profit at this price, allowing
for shipping and import taxes then it shows that the UK manufacturers
are really creaming off profits at the expense of bands and the UK
consumer.

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From: dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Modes; was: Re: Reading music - book sought.
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:52:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Organization: Rutgers University, Graduate School of Management, Newark, N.J.

Another source on modes in the English folk music tradition is
the first or second chapter of A. L. Lloyd's _Folk_Song_in_England_,
in which the ever-erudite author not only discusses occurrences
of each of the modes that is documented in English folk song, but
also provides information about where else they occur in European
folk music.  He also talks about scales that are not in the modal
system at all because, if they are heptatonic, the two half-steps
are not two or three full steps apart.
-- 
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   Graduate School of Management, Rutgers University (Newark Campus)
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From: colm@mathcs.emory.edu (Colm K. Mulcahy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Box Set of MacColl/Seeger/Parker radio ballads?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 02:10:42 -0500
Organization: sometimes, but never early in the morning
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Sound like an interesting proposition?  I think so.  These LPs, issued
in the mid to late 60s, recorded as BBC broadcasts in the late 50s and 
early 60s, have been long out of print, and command high prices if you
can find them.  I just paid $50 for one, the most I've ever spent on one
record.

Anyway, the good folks at the Smithsonian are considering issuing a boxset
of them all (6 to 8?  I forget), with some nudging from Peggy Seeger (who
did all the music for these, though in true pre-feminist era style she did
not get equal billing with the other two).

They need some idea of public interest, so I urge you to write to them and
say you heard and think it's a great idea - many of you may even volunteer
that you would buy such a package.

Personally, I think these are of such historical importance that they need
to be available again, even if in limited quantities, so that they can at
least be bought by libraries and thus made available for generations to come.

The address:

Smithsonian Folkways, 955 l'enfant plaza, smithsonian institution, 
washington, DC 20560, USA

Please give it serious thought, and ACT if you care.  Go! Move! Shift! Thanks


PS  If these are issued we'll all see where Christy Moore got a large 
    chunk of his early repertoire!


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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jonm@Ingres.COM (Don't Judge a book by your cover)
Subject: Re: Makem & Clancy, Waltzing Mathilda
Summary: 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
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Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:42:56 GMT

In article <1gktt3INN3m0@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de>, mg@dagoffice.cs.uni-sb.de (Michael Greim) writes...
>From article <1992Dec15.090627.13036@bsu-ucs>, by 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington):
>= In article <1992Dec15.094854.8168@teetot.acusd.edu>, jerry@teetot.acusd.edu (Jerry Stratton) writes:
>= 
>= Hmmmm if memory serves me correct the song is actually
>= "And the band played Waltzing Mathilda"
>= about Anzacs in WWI... 
> 

>I think it is
>	as they march by the billabong
> 

I think it should be 
	as they camped by the billabong

>If my memory serves me correctly, the word is australian and means
>a kind of dead-end branch of a river or creek. Or was that dried-up branch?

A Billabong is a creek/swampy type place

Does anyone have the words to 
	"and the band played waltzing matilda.  It has to be one of
the most beautiful (if you can call it that) songs about the effects
of war on people and patriotism etc.

I would appreciate any help on this.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: Hugo_Jackson@mindlink.bc.ca (Hugo Jackson)
Subject: LYRICS & CHORDS: I Come & Stand at Every Door
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 09:09:20 GMT

As per a number of requests, here are the lyrics and chords for "I Come and
Stand at Every Door"




C          Dm       Bb    C I come and stand at every door

C            Dm      G      C But none can hear my silent tread

  F         Em    Dm     C  I knock and yet remain unseen

    Dm         Bb       C
For I am dead, for I am dead


I'm only seven, although I died
In Hiroshima long ago
I'm seven now, as I was then
When children die, they do not grow old

My hair was scorched by swirling flame
My eyes grew dim, my eyes grew blind
Death came and turned my bones to dust
and that was scattered by the wind

I need no fruit, I need no rice
I need no sweets nor even bread
I ask for nothing for myself
For I am dead, for I am dead

All that I ask is that for peace
You fight today, you fight today
So that the children of this world
May live and grow, and laugh and play



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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu (David N. Blank-Edelman)
Subject: Re: Performer/lyrics of "Are You Happy Now?" ?
Organization: M.I.T. Media Laboratory
	<MARTIN.92Dec23103510@lyra.cis.umassd.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:29:49 GMT

Another place to find it is on Christine Lavin's second compilation
album.  Like the first, this is also a great album

artist|title|label|catalog #|year|genre|notes|SPARS code:
Various Artists|When October Goes|Philo/Rounder|PH 1143|1991|Folk||AAD

       Peace,
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jmc@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (James M. Campbell)
Subject: Re: want title/artist for album with song "Barbeque"
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:59:03 GMT

"Barbeque" is on the Red Clay Ramblers' new record,
RAMBLER, on Sugar Hill. If you're picky, RAMBLER's
probably not quite at as high a level as the best of
their earlier stuff before Mike Craver and Jim Watson
left, but there's good music on there and, as always with
them, it's a lot of fun to listen to. 
Incidentally, Flying Fish has just rereleased some of
their old records on CD, two albums to a disk.

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From: bartley@spss.com (Dennis Bartley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Irish Music in San Francisco
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:58:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPSS Inc.

Anybody happen to have a schedule of Irish music in San Francisco (or
the bay area) for February 20-27. Anybody playing at Plough and Star?
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rblackma@nyx.cs.du.edu (robert blackman)
Subject: Undisputed masters
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 20:04:51 GMT


For mandolin, I nominate Peter Ostroushko.  He can play Celtic music,
swing, jazz, Brazilian tunes, bluegrass, Ukrainian tunes, and more,
all with incredible taste and grace.  He has two LPs on Rounder which
are excellent, and several newer records on Red House -- I especially
recommend "Blue Mesa," but his newest CD (with guitarist Dean Magraw)
called "Duo" is also superb.  Peter and Dean do a great concert as well.
--Bob Blackman, WKAR Radio, East Lansing, MI

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Bernice Lewis Tour Schedule
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:57:51 GMT


Bernice Lewis
Winter/Spring 1993 Tour Schedule

JAN
16   Craftsbury   VT   Craftsbury Inn            802-586-2848
30   Rochester    NY   Sunken Room               716-256-0138

FEB
12   Prescott      AZ   Prescott Pantry           602-445-8823
13   Phoenix       AZ   Southwest Folk Music Assn 602-279-9717
14   Tucson        AZ   House Concert             602-887-2837
26   Dallas        TX   Uncle Calvin's            214-995-8142
28   Brownsville   TX   Trail's End               512-831-2151

MAR
 2   Houston       TX   Muckyduck's               713-528-5999 
12   East Lansing  MI   Ten-Pound Fiddle          517-372-4847

APR
13   Reston        VA   Tortilla Factory          703-689-0444
14   Frederick     MD   Weathervane               301-694-6038
16   Hagerstown    MD   Prospect Series           301-739-5265
17   New Brunswick NJ   Mine Street Coffeehouse   908-699-0570
24   Canton        CT   Roaring Brook             203-693-0263 

MAY
 7   Valparaiso    IN   The Front Porch           219-464-4700
 8   Oregon        IL   The Mercantile            815-732-6568
22   Winston-Salem NC   Fiddle and Bow            919-631-8372
30   Kerrville     TX   Kerrville Folk Festival

Bernice is a fine singer/songwriter with an impressive vocal
style.  Her writing is quite strong and varied, sometimes
quite humorous.  Her recording of Michael Smith's "Dead Egyptian
Blues" is very popular on folk radio shows.

--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Re: New Age vs Enya & Clannad
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 11:53:00 GMT


In article <1992Dec29.192718.3676@wam.umd.edu>, delwell@wam.umd.edu (Daniel W. Elwell) writes...
>In Article 19272 billrich@caspian.ext.vt.edu writes:
>>New Age is some of the most atrocious "music" I have heard, seeming to
>>begin  from the false hypothesis that you can create something entirely
>>"new" without any influences.
> 
>While I agree that a lot of New Age music has little to recommed itself,
>I think that the more successful New Age performers, e.g. George Winston
>and Mannheim Steamroller, have been strongly influenced by the folk and
>acoustic traditions.  IMO New Age in general lacks the structure that

So have many rock musicians. The anthem of the 60's "The times they are
a-changin'" bears quite a resemblence to "Wild Rover" for instance. "Rock"
has drawn on folk music quite extensively, which is why I think giving
more air time to folk music might encourage more diversity in other
forms of music descended from folk, including rock.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
From: walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker, 227 West Old Main,268-3847,)
Subject: Re: The Great Selkie of Sule Skerrie
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:00:53 GMT

From article <BztzI6.2o0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, by ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib):
> 
> OK... So whats a "Selkie"?
> 
> 
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A "seal" that can take on a human form (they are both male or female) to
"entrap" a real human.

												GW

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: stegner_g@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Laura Nyro
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:37:29 GMT

In article <BzJ2v1.no@eis.calstate.edu>, lcornel@eis.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio) writes:
> Just found this thread & wanted to join in: I love her music! It was a
> thrill to get her last live album a after such a long time with no music.
> Can't wait for the next one!
> 
> Louis  lcornel@eis.calstate.edu

Yes, it's always a long time between albums with Laura, but that's because she:
1) is not into the music business or being a "star" that much, and 2) really
labors over her work before deciding to release.  MOTHER'S SPIRITUAL was
written over a period of 5 years during which she was raising a baby, and
recording took over a year.  She's just picky about what goes out.  Live
albums, though, don't require quite as much fuss, and I think that's why she
decided to put out the Bottom Line collection, so her fans would have something
while she worked on the next studio album.  There's quite a story behind that
live album, though...

Laura was doing studio work with the "Bottom Line" band in between gigs, and
she had enough material down by early '89 to release an album.  But she was
dissatisfied with the results and told Columbia that she'd rather put out a
live album.  The PR folks at Columbia wouldn't hear of it.  "You need a good
studio album right now, Laura," they told her.  They have her such a hard time
that she decided to hawk the tapes out to another record company and release
it.  But Cypress, a company that has since gone belly-up, never really promoted
the album either, so it commercially went nowhere (it didn't necessarily have
to be "commercial" in the negative sense, but it could have sold a lot better). 
Columbia has been real good at just releasing her albums and not following up
with promotion and support, too.  A lot of people around her feel she needs to
"get the word out" and get beyond "the cult" that is her current following. 
At least one person close to her feels that this upcoming album might just do
the trick.

The new album is just having the finishing touches put on.  The current project
has been going on for about a year (laying down new tracks), and one person who
responded to this thread says Gary Katz (Steely Dan fame) is part of the
production team.  This one should be out about Spring '93 or maybe a little
later.  All of the above info, as is all my info, is gathered from people who
either know Laura or get the inside scoop on her wherebouts.  That would
probably put me in her "outer circle" of acquaintances (I met her face to face
on one occasion, backstage after a show, but that was it, except that I've
communicated to her by letter on other occasions).

Keep the thread alive!!

Glen Stegner
Keeper of the Chinese Lamp
stegner_g@cubldr.colorado.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rblackma@nyx.cs.du.edu (robert blackman)
Subject: Solstice Assembly
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 20:44:30 GMT


Re a recent inquiry about this group....They are an excellent vocal group
of about 2-dozen people, doing a lot of acappella singing and also some
with diverse and appropriate accompaniment, with great variety in their
repertoire -- old madrigals, contemporary songs, Sacred Harp, lots of
stuff in other languages (Balkan, French, Spanish, more), and even some
funny material.  They have two excellent recordings: "Three Log Night," 
a cassette-only recording of unusual Christmas music, and "Under the
Drawbridge" (cassette and CD) which has all of the above-named types of
songs and more besides.  Both are great.  I just reviewed the latter CD
for the next (forthcoming) issue of Sing Out! magazine.
The musical director is Jane Peppler, who also runs Skylark Productions
-- their record company and a distributor/label with a lot of excellent
and unusual recordings of vocal music.  Write for their catalog (or
to get in touch with the group): 2522 Charlock Court, Chapel Hill, NC
27514, 919-382-8601.
Both of those albums also have songbooks available from Skylark as well.
Worth pursuing for fans of vocal music (especially folk and early music
fans).
Bob Blackman, WKAR Radio, East Lansing, MI
From: D5.JJC@forsythe.stanford.edu (Judy Colwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Alison Brown...Information?
Date: 1 Jan 1993 13:48:18 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Can anyone out there give me some information about Alison Brown?  I
heard some information about her on our local PBS radio station,
with a few short minutes of her music.  Our local Tower Record store
has her in the "folk" section (but were out of her cd).

Thanks!

Judy Colwell
d5.jjc@forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Mandolin Brothers/Santa Cruz guitars
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:06:03 GMT


>Okay: what is meant by "stress-free" here?

	In a Santa Cruz' flyer I read, Mr. Hoover was telling about his 
philosophy in building guitars. He tries to make all parts if the guitar
so precisely and for example splits the wood for braces along the wood grain
in order to have more 'relaxed' guitar. The concept of 'opening' with time and
playing is technically losing the tensions in the guitar body, and Hoover tries
to make guitars without tension in the first place. Makes sense to me. 

	
	Pasi

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