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From: v281nr6a@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mark D Uher)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Rush and your parents
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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Has anyone out there gotten their parents to appreciate Rush, more specifically
Neil, for his writing abilities, as well as their playing abilities.
For myself, my mom has come to like some of their music, her favorite album is
Power Windows, with Middletown Dreams being her favorite song off the album.
She also appreciates that I think about the lyrics and we can carry on a
conversation about what Neil has to say.  Anyone else have a cool mom out there?

                                     -Mark-
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Quotes
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:17:03 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1egiluINNoa4@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mcarey@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (M A Carey) writes:

>Well, here's a new thread for some of you to gnaw on.  What are your
>favorite lyrics from a Rush song and why?  

Wow, this should keep the bands busy for a month. Personally, it would come
from the very first song by them that I ever heard: "Show Don't Tell."

Note: if I screw up the lyrics a little, please don't get anal about it...

"You can twist perception...
 Reality won't judge...
 You can raise objection...
 I will be the judge... AND THE JURY."

Obviously, there are probably some better lyrics around, but this is just an
initial reply... I may post something else later...

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:54:29 -0500 
From: "Jonathan T. Moore" <jmci+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Quotes
	<1egiluINNoa4@bigboote.WPI.EDU>

On 19-Nov-92 in Quotes                       
user M A Carey@bigwpi.WPI.EDU writes:
>Well, here's a new thread for some of you to gnaw on.  What are your
>favorite lyrics from a Rush song and why?  

I personally like the following from The Sphere in Hemispheres:

"Let the truth of love be lighted,
 Let the love of truth shine clear."

(which you can see is in my .sig)

Hemispheres was my first Rush album, (I was introduced to it by a very
close friend). I personally like the message conveyed--truth and love
being two very important ideals to me. If everyone lived their lives
according to the above lyrics (or at least by what I perceive the lyrics
to mean  :)   ), the world would be a much better place to live in. I
also think the lyrics are pretty clever as well ("truth of love", "love
of truth" -- you get the picture). Anyway, this basically sums up the
whole theme of Hemispheres, which is that it is necessary to strike a
balance between the mind and the heart. It is undesirable to be
completely controlled by emotion, but by the same token, it is equally
undesirable to be a purely logical person (heck, even Spock showed a
little emotion now and then). This balance is a very important part of
my personal philosophy (which I won't bore you with--fortunately for
you).

Well, I guess that's my 2 cents.

Jon
-----------------------------------------------
Jon Moore             (jmci@andrew.cmu.edu) 
 "What have I got in my pocket?" --Bilbo     
 "Let the truth of love be lighted,          
  Let the love of truth shine clear." --RUSH 
-----------------------------------------------


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From: ghost@wam.umd.edu (.)
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:51:27 GMT

In article <1e6gl6INNrnc@bigboote.WPI.EDU> chadwemy@wpi.WPI.EDU (Chad Barret Wemyss) writes:
>In article <92318.120342MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> <MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>My father hs a country gaze that no one knew about...
>>He said it used to be a farm until...
>>
>>Until what, this is my question.....
>>
>>Is it ...until they mowed the lawn?
>>
>
>As far as I can tell, it sounds like :
>	My uncle has a country place
>	That no one knows about
>	He said it used to be a farm, 
>	Before the motor laws...
>
>This is one of my favorite Rush songs, along with Witch Hunt, but I cant 
>remember all of the lyrics right now.  I'll have to go home and listen to it 
>tonight.  When I get the rest of the song, I'll post it, unless someone beats 
>me to it.
>
>Chad Wemyss
>Worcester Polytechnic Institute
>

 hey guy, why not get the lyrics from syrinx.umd.edu :)
(no flame intended...)
.

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: juhatsan@polaris.utu.fi (Juha2 Tapani Santala)
Subject: Re: How others see Rush fans
Organization: University of Turku, Computing Centre
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:02:56

I have just looked few times this shortly this news group. I became Rush fan through "Tom Sawyer", just heard it once an dthat was it. I bought all the records and things from Backstage club.  That was 1981. I haven't listen Rush lately.
But it was funny to find this mail box. I have noticed some talks about religion in this mail box.
Did You know that Neil has written also about this subject. I think it was autumn 1983 in Backstage clus magazine. Some seminary was attacking on Rush. So Neil answered and confessed his faith: I believe in what man chooses to believe. If You believe in evil You see it everywhere. OK that is a belief and called humanism.
By the way Humanist Manifesto I & II declares that humanism is a religion ansd so also Supreme Court 1961 (Torcaso vs. Watkins). So if You get kindly my point (and Neil's also), we all hold some kind of belief systems that influence to our behaviour and values.
I don't think that this a forum of evangelisation, but if as some of You are thinking themselves non-religionists... sorry we all are some kind of believers. If You choose not to decide You have made a choice. Right.
In fact Rush's songs are quite interesting in the way their are preaching. For example 'Closer to the heart' finds the key in our heart and believes its goodness. But few years later more pessimistic view is in 'Distant Early Warning' - Neil seem to think more pessimistic to people's power to chage the thinks. End is very clear - Absalom raised against his father and got his punishment
(2Samuel13-18). 
You can name more that kind of songs.
I still respect Rush musically very high but I see it in a different eyes. I don't think myself intellectual higher than the others anymore, I hope (as I 
used to when I was hardcore Rush fan). But Neil's lyrics made me think and 
I saw it that when we have materialistic world view we cannot say nothing 
about good or evil, because things just are (leading humanists are 
affirming this also). That's true with this band called Rush.
So for myself I found another Prime Mover, the who is same that Kerry 
Livgren's (Yes, that man from Kansas). He has made record called Prime Mover
with AD few years ago. It is still worth of listeningas also Kansas' Vinyl
Confessions.

So 

"May I indtroduce myself, I'm the prince of fools
The question is who's fool are you
There are no exceptions, no changing the rules
Don't wait till it's over"
 So good luck to You folks, if some one wants to discuss with me, just send a
message, but not on this forum, because this on different subject.

Juha Santala



Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: lowerjc@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (J. Craig Lowery)
Subject: Re: RUSH'S BEST SONG!!!
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:41:17 GMT

In article <001738a.33.722198208@ace.acadiau.ca> 001738a@ace.acadiau.ca (GEOFF F L APPLEBY) writes:
>Just for a change of pace, why not talk about out favorite group's best 
>song? My vote...La Villa Strangiato, followed by Jacob's Ladder.
>
>Anyone else, or would you rather talk about their worst?!?!?

The best is New World Man.a

Ruth Ann Lowery
(Using her brother's account)

-- 

Craig Lowery                                            lowery@AuE.com
Math and Computer Science
Mississippi College
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Subject: Re: How others see Rush fans
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:28:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.020540.3060@eng.umd.edu> cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen) writes:
>
>Anyway, do any of you have any similar experiences of Rush-fan
>bashing in the form of "If you like Rush, then you are an 
>arrogant pompous who thinks he is intellectually better than
>the rest.."? This happened around the p/g PoW timeframe..
>

Nope, haven't had that experience, although I _am_ intellectually
superior to anyone who doesn't listen to Rush.  (or does, for that
matter.)


Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: Mark Shaw <mshaw@uiuc.edu>
Subject: Tom Sawyer on MTV
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Organization: University of Illinois
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:30:31 GMT

For those of you who care:  I witnessed the Tom Sawyer video this morning
(around 11:00 CST) on their "oldies" video show.  It was a live shot of
them in concert on the E...SL tour.  I was surprised to see it.

Mark
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: tiverson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson)
Subject: Re: LedZep intimidates Rush fans-Still!!
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:09:47 GMT

In article <haley.721992821@husc11> haley@husc11.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley) writes:

>I have listened to Rush and been so enraptured I almost wrecked my
>car.

I _have_ wrecked my car while reaching down to turn up the volume
during "2112."  So there.

Thor Iverson
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: thanatos@titan.ucc.umass.edu (MATTHEW D SCHMILL)
Subject: Re: New Album?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:58:10 GMT


	I really doubt that this will be an opus album like
Hemispheres or 2112. They've said before that they will never go back
to that style....However, it may be a concept album, as most of the
recent ones have been. The concept albums aren't necessarily sagas,
they're usually just full of songs that are based on similar themes.
Like the witch hunt/weapon/enemy within thing.

no doubt it will be one to watch for, though !
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: touching my monkey
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:21:38 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

>>COuntdown, with COuntdown being the worst of all. I wonder if
>>Neil got hit on the head before he wrote the lyrics to that one!
> 
> I think it's the same problem he has with "Heresy" on _RtB_, he
> just has trouble pulling off those `contemporary history' lyrics.
> 
> 
> Gregg

	Would you agree that he also has a similar difficulty pulling
off the semi-contemporary "Manhattan Project" or even more contemporary
"Red Tide"?  Why the difficulty?

	You may touch my monkey.


Thomas Beaudoin
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Neil
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:55:51 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <BxvqB1.AJq@ns1.nodak.edu> abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson) writes:
>Did anyone else read that little thing about Neil being gay in TNMS?

>I think its bullsh-t!!!!!!!!!

The last posting on the subject which I read claimed to have
substantiaition in the form of a photo of Neil with some guy's
arm around him. BFD, that's no substantiation of anything and
furthermore who cares anyway?! What a waste of bandwidth!

Gregg





-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                "You may _not_ touch my monkey" -Dieter
From: GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (STEPHEN BECKETT)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: What do other Rush fans like?
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:38:15 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.13.SMU

..........
  So, am I the only Rush fan out there that listens to death metal and the
like?  
  I notice a lot of you like PRIMUS....they're an amazing band....

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From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: xanadu or zanadu
Date: 17 Nov 1992 13:25:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mike.rizzello@canrem.com ("mike rizzello") says:

> I'm sorry to say that you may have a fake ESL!  My versions of AFTK and
>ESL have correct spelling.  Well Zanadu sure beats 'Kanadu' off of the
>Rush One and Rush Two bootlegs.  I wonder who's incharge of correcting liner
>notes, hey, maybe that's what Quayle could do after Jan. 20th?

   No, his E...SL copy is probably legitimate.  As I've stated in the past,
my cassette copy (which has all of the appropriate catalog numbers, bar
codes, and trademarks) suffers from this misspelling.
   Somebody screwed up the spelling.  That's all.  No 'fake copies' or
other such stuff.  It's just a typo.  Thank you.

		-EMeyer


-- 
"Unstable condition--a symptom of life       | Eric A. Meyer (eam3@po.CWRU.edu)
 In mental and environmental change          |  Alumnus,  Beta Nu of Theta Chi
 Atmospheric disturbance--the feverish flux  |---------------------------------
 Of human interface and interchange-"  -N.P. |    "What do you think, sirs?"
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: LedZep intimidates Rush fans-Still!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:11:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

: Rush is still alive.... Much more succesfull than RP/JP/JPJ solo, combined.

JPJ is very successful in the realm of film soundtracks - more than 
Rush are now or are ever likely to be....
From: v071pzp4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Craig L. Cole)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush's (Worst?) song
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BxuCC0.JB0@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jj6707@meibm26.cen.uiuc.edu (John E Jablonski) writes...
>In article <cubsfan.721516130@camelot>, cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes:
>|> My choice for worst Rush songs (or, least awesome Rush songs :-)
>|> would be.......Tai Shan, High Water, Hand Over Fist, and
>|> COuntdown, with COuntdown being the worst of all. I wonder if
>|> Neil got hit on the head before he wrote the lyrics to that one!
> 
>Countdown!?!?!?!?!?!?!
> 
>That's one of their BEST songs you schmuck!!

I don't think its one of their best, but I've always liked it. I thought
there was some terrific imagery:

"Flood-lit in the hazy distance the star of this unearthly show,
 venting vapors like the breath of a sleeping white dragon"

That was always my favorite stanza of the song.

Craig Cole
V071PZP4@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
V071PZP4@UBVMS.BINET
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barchetta
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:46:44 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BxsCDn.9CF@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson) writes:

>Doc <SS3254B@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>>I always thought a barchetta was a tractor.  I'm most likely wrong, tho.
>>Thought I'd throw in a shot. - Doc

>I hate become one of those people who always says, "check the FAQ", but all of
>the answers about Red Barchetta that many are seeking lately can be found there.
>I recall reading them last time I looked.  Unfortunately, I can't recall what
>the exact explanations were.  If I remember right, a Barchetta is a type of 
>Ferrari.  I could be wrong.  That wouldn't be an earth-shattering discovery.


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I would agree with Dave here. The lyrics describing the barchetta as "screaming
through the valley" would suggest a sportscar, like the Ferrari. Somehow, I
just don't picture a John Deere doing this...

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York

"Speak softly and carry a beagle..." - Sally Brown
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: Xanadu or Zanadu
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:52:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.033603.9088@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Adam.B.Cappio@dartmouth.edu (Adam B. Cappio) writes:
> The correct spelling is Xanadu, as someone already pointed out.  The
> poem "Kubla Khan" by Samuel Coleridge is a fantastic poem and should be
> sought out by true fans of this song.  (Absolutely my favorite.  I've
> always thought that Roger Dean (Artist for Yes) would have a hey day
> creating an animated video for this song, or any other story book song
> by Rush for that matter.)  Back to the poem...  If at all possible also
> find an explanation of what inspired Coleridge to write it and how he
> came to the end result.  Very interesting.
> 
> abc
	When I was a high-school junior, doing reseach on Xanadu for a D&D
scenario, the information I came up with was that he had been taking opium for
something-or-other while doing some kind of reading (I think he was translating
something).  Eventually the opium kicks in, and he takes a nap.  The dream is
his inspiration upon awakening.  If you ever hear reference to a mysterious
visitor from <can't remember the name, but I think it's got a 'P' in it>, the
reference is to the (aggravating) person who interrupted his writing of his
dream.  Because of his interruption, the real story of the poem has been lost.

	Just call me Earl
From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: The ole Led Zep comparison
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:37:53 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

To me, comparing Rush to Led Zep is like comparing the Lexus SC400
to a VW vanagon... One is perfect, while the other is just a square
block with tons of pot smoke coming out of it.

All jokes aside, I think that while most would say page was an
awesome guitarist, lets face it... he was sloppy. I do enjoy
JPJ's bass lines, and the drums are very powerful, yet simple.
They fit the Led Zep frame - simple , yet artistic. Now, about
Peart being soulless.. gimme a break. Peart plays the drums like
an instrument, not like a metronome. His drum pearts add to the
song, not keep it going. That is what I enjoy.. 

oooh yes I need some love. I said, I NEED SOME LOVE. Oooh yes
I need some love- this feeling I can't rise above... Ooooh yeah yeah!

just the primal me coming out
later-
Chris
From: dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: New Album?
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:40:27 GMT
Organization: Shinola Industries: We know the difference.

Wow!  ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu typed...
> I don't *believe* this is a FAQ...
> sorry if it is...
> 
> Rush's studio schedule would put their new album up around
> fall of '93... (going on the every 2 years rule of thumb)
> 
> Does anybody know anything about this?  Release date?
> (approximate) NAME?

From the FAQ:

Latest Word on the next album:

   The band is scheduled to go into the studio in January or February
   1993.  According to an interview with Alex on 97.7 HTZ FM in
   Hamilton, Ontario, the album is expected to come out in June.  Also
   mentioned is that they will be taking the summer off, so we can't
   expect an immediate tour.  This info was originally posted in
   alt.music.rush on Nov 4 by v281nr6a@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mark D Uher).
   (According to Jeff Robertson, 97.7 HTZ FM is actually in St.
   Catharines.)

   Atlantic/SRO has denied the rumors that there is a video release
   scheduled for December.

-- 

Dan Delany
dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu
I failed the Turing test.
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: touching my monkey
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:34:54 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Nov15.222138.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>>>COuntdown, with COuntdown being the worst of all. I wonder if
>>>Neil got hit on the head before he wrote the lyrics to that one!

>> I think it's the same problem he has with "Heresy" on _RtB_, he
>> just has trouble pulling off those `contemporary history' lyrics.

>	Would you agree that he also has a similar difficulty pulling
>off the semi-contemporary "Manhattan Project" or even more contemporary
>"Red Tide"?  Why the difficulty?

No, actually. I think "Manhattan Project" is wonderful. Maybe that's
because it happened before he was born. I don't know why the problems
with "Countdown" and "Heresy". Maybe the problem comes from hearing
and reading too many press reports (my favorite journalistic phrase
is "at this particular point in time"). Maybe he just can't get all
those press cliches out of his mind?

"Red Tide" is also better than "Countdown" and "Heresy" (IMHO!!!),
maybe because it's something more abstract in a way, biohazards.
Maybe he just put more effort into it. There is nice irony in "RT"
which is absent in "C" and "H". 



Gregg

-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                "You may _not_ touch my monkey" -Dieter
From: 001738a@ace.acadiau.ca (GEOFF F L APPLEBY)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: What do other Rush fans like?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:41:05 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <1992Nov17.074431.1730@nstn.ns.ca> GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (STEPHEN BECKETT) writes:
>From: GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (STEPHEN BECKETT)
>Subject: Re: What do other Rush fans like?
>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:38:15 GMT
>..........
>  So, am I the only Rush fan out there that listens to death metal and the
>like?  
>  I notice a lot of you like PRIMUS....they're an amazing band....
>
>  |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|
>  | <--SHADOWHAWK-->  |    "Come with us, we'll sail  |  *   HAIL   * |
>  |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|     The Seas Of Cheese..."    |  * PHLARGH! * |
>  |  'Mutant Of SMU'  |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|
>  |-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=|    <--   GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.CA   -->      |
>  |/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|
>  
I agree. Primus is my fave after Rush. I also enjoy the death scene.