From: yangze@acf3.NYU.EDU (Ze Yang, , , )
Subject: Email Harrasment?
Organization: New York University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:00:00 GMT

In article <3131@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:
>
>
>Recently Mr Yang Ze has sent me emails concerning my postings in SCC. After
>a few email exchanges I found that there is no point in further discussing
>the matters. However, I was still harassed my Mr Yang continuous emails. I
>told Mr Yang that further emails harassment would be redirect to SCC.
>Since Mr Yang thinks that his ideas are so good, I therefore included the
>recent four unabridged emails between Mr Yang and myself.
>

The story is a little different from what Mr. Lin (or Lam?) said, 
I did sent him emails, but it's not about his postings, 
it's about another issue, is he trying to depicit me as 
an newsgroup policeman? The first cited email by Mr. Lin is my 
last mail to Mr. Lin, from that you can see that I am more 
concerned about that issue itself instead of his posting.  

His above paragraph might give you another impression that I have send 
him lots of emails, actually, after he declined further discussion, 
(in that mail he wrote about 50 lines, end with "I think we should
stop discussion here."), even though I thought his arguments 
didn't make sense, I only replied him a very short email (3 lines), 
say, "...anyhow, I stop my discussion here." after that I had no 
intension to communicate with him anymore, but 
I got another e-mail from him, I answered that one, he send me
one more, which is the one he claimed here that he warned me of 
posting my emails, but actually either he hasn't done that or 
I missed the words (definitely I havn't seen those words in the email), 
I followed another one, that is the LAST email I send to him.

By those words "continous", "harrasement", Mr. Lin depecit me
as a wu1 nai4, and he himself as a volurable victim, I am amazing at
Mr. Lin's language skill, he has such a good skill, he can use his
skill somewhere else instead of fooling around with his "brothers 
and sisters" here? 

Mr. Lin obviously lack common sense, he posted a lot 
of criticism articles in fake name in scc (it's not allowed 
in US published criticism articles anonymously on newspaper) 
while he posted my emails without my permition, even if what he
said is true and he did warned me of posting my email, he can only 
post my last email. Maybe just because he lost the debate and 
"lost his temper" (Mr. Carl's words)?  

(Note that before I send the following email to him, 
he had said "I want to enligt(en)
you", "If you think you garbage could be sold, post it in scc")

>==============================================================================
>
>Your arguments lack common sense, don't you think so? I won't post
>garbage like you do. When I talk law, you say you can make a new one,
>does this make sense? When I say big territory is a potential, I quoted
>Abraham Lincoln's words, I also remind you middle east. Another point
>is that because of the oil deposit, the situation is tense in the south
>China sea already, it may become the second Persian Gulf, what argument
>did you give, you only say "cannot prove", nobody can prove, don't you
>think so? For TI, if they choose secede, they are the agressors, they
>shoud be responsible for the bloody war just the Southern States are
>responsible for the American Civil War, I really want to enlight you, 
>you are only sceptical about all my arguments, while you cannot make any 
>arguments at all, can only say "brothers and sisters", you seemed
>to have learned this word from ccp. I cannot see any valuable point from
>your posts and the e-mails. 
>
>Ze Yang
>

The above is my last email to him.

>==============================================================================
>>You seem don't understand what law means, when I say this is
>>my lawful right, you say we can make a new one, why are you so
>>great and only consider making laws?
>>
>>Actually, you are very close to Comunist in some sense, don't know
>>we should obey the law istead of impractical ideaology.
>>
>>I send mail to you just because you really post a lot of garbage
>>on the net, I am afraid of others think all Chinese are so stupid.
>>Otherwise I won't bother to discuss with you at all.
>>
>>Ze Yang
>>
>I replied to your mail because I wanted to enlighten you a bit, if you think
>that your gargage could sell. Try it in scc.
>
>Be a decent man, if you keep on harassing me using email, I shall redirect 
>all your emails to scc and let others to judge. At least show some decency
>and respect to others' requests on not sending anymore emails. You are just
>like the CCP mentality, never respect others.
>
>Lin Can
>
>==============================================================================
>>
>>If you don't want to the disscusion, you shouldn't have send
>>another garbage article.
>
>If you views are so good, post it, don't convince me.
>
>>Anyhow, I stop disscusion with you.
>
>I don't discuss with barbarians.
>
>>Ze Yang
>
>Lin Can
>
>==============================================================================
>
>(stuff deleted)
>
>Please do not send me any more messages, I think the discussion should end 
>here.
>
>Lin Can
>
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>                                          

The "stuff deleted" part is very long, he made a lot of irrational
arguments there. I had to say something to express my view on his
arguments, he wanted to stop discussion, I replied him a short email.


Ze Yang



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