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From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Z-Rock Guitar Contest
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:38:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.171138.21815@dvorak.amd.com> Me writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.153859.15388@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>>
>>Regardless, most of the entries I heard were very average or worse.
>>And what kind of Ibanez guitar is worth $3000? You could get something
>>much better than an Ibanez for that, like a Jackson or a Paul Reed Smith!
>>
>>					--Judex--
>
>Hey! An Ibanez is a great guitar. I've had an RG-560 for about 3 or 4 years
>and (with the exception of the Jackson Soloist) have yet to play on any
>guitar that feels better. I'm sure a real nice custom made Ibanez might
>cost close to $3000. Maybe you should go try playing on a nice Ibanez
>and you might understand why Satriani uses no other.
>
>Cheers, (is filmed before a live studio audience.)
>
>-Jeff-

I have an Ibanez series X, and have had one of their les Pauls <which I loved>.
Both were very nice. I have friends who let me play their Stev Vai models,
and Ibanez makes a damn fine guitar. I never said they didn't.

But for $3000, you could buy a Gold Top les Paul, or a Jackson custom made
to YOUR specifications, or a Paul Reed Smith <which is the Finest electric
guitar currently available IMHO. I have played quite a few and they are 
excellent!!! Heaven with strings!>. Ibanez is quoting a straight 
Manufacturers Suggested Retail for this guitar. No store actually gets that
for an instrument. Look at a Guitar Center ad sometime.

And Satch plays Ibanez because they are great guitars, but also because he
gets them free, and has for quite a while. They gave him an endorsement deal
with his first record, when no one else would. They also designed a guitar
with him, to his specs. If say, Jackson, or someone else had come to him at
that time, he would probably have gone with them. Now that he is in a postion
to have anything he needs, he is showing loyalty by sticking with the 
company that supported hm.

					--Judex--
From: jcollins@sparkle.tnis (Jon Collins CT/90)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Z-Rock Guitar Contest
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:16:09 GMT
Reply-To: jcollins@sparkle.tnis
Organization: Sun Microsystems

>I have something to say about the ongoing Z-rock guitar competition:>
>The contest said, basically: "send in a tape of around 30 seconds of your
>best licks...."
>And there's a bunch of people sending in entries which have drum, bass, and
>rhythm guitar tracks to help thicken the sound.
>Some people are also doubling their lead tracks.>
>To me, this was not in the spirit of the competition at all. I didn't send in
>a tape, but if I would have-I would be quite unhappy.

I agree.  I heard a few with drums in the background yesterday and the first thing that came to my mind was these cheaters should be sending their tapes to Ed at Star Search.  Winning the contest with background instruments would be the same as Miss America having implants.  Right??  Hmmm.....

Just my opinion!

Jon
From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Crimson Idol ?
Summary: compared to Mindcrime
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:06:35 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

Hey there!
  
  Is the new WASP album The Crimson Idol any good? I've heard it's
supposed to be a lot like Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime-album,
with a unifying theme on it, and also musically. I'm a HUGE Q'sryche 
fan and Mindcrime is one of my all time faves. So, could someone 
please post a review of Crimson Idol. 


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Matti Varis
-If you squeeze my lizard, I'll put my snake on you
  I'm a romantic adventure, and I'm reptile too   (Motorhead: Killed By Death) 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil)
Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate..
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:43:47 GMT
Disclaimer: Death before disco
	<s0383619.7.0@let.rug.nl>
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland


In article <s0383619.7.0@let.rug.nl> s0383619@let.rug.nl (J.J.G.M. Nijhuis) writes:

   WOW! This is great! Nothing compares to good old MF. So King Diamond (the 
   band that is) is history? 
   When will this new album be released? 
   More info please!

 I have no idea when the Mercyful Fate album is going to be released (I don't
 even know if they are in studio or not). King Diamond still continues his
 solo career and I have heard rumours that he is already making material to
 new album. The working title was "Spider Lullaby"


 While waiting new material from MF check out "Return of the vampire".
 The sound quality is quite shitty but it has some great previously unreleased
 tunes plus demo versions of tracks published in "Melissa" and "Don't break 
 the oath". 


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From: cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chuck Hazlett)
Subject: Re: No Maiden gig in S.A. ( Major Flame )
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:37:02 GMT

In article <18923.2adb12c8@levels.unisa.edu.au> 9135477m@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>
>Firstly I would just like to say that ........
>
>(Flame On)
>
>Iron Maiden are a bunch of Selfish, Dick Sucking, Arse Fucking Wankers.
>
>How dare these fuckers play 2 gigs in Australia and miss out Adelaide.
>
>Fuck me, how many arsehole bands are going to fucking well do this ?????
>
>I mean they came to Adelaide on the World Slavery tour so why not now ?
>
>We have bigger venues now, so that can't be it !!!!!
>
>Maiden are just as popular here now as they were in '85 - '86 so what
>is the fucking problem.
>
>Geez, I missed Sepultura, I'm gonna miss Ministry.
>
>If little bands like ScatterBrain, and L7 can do it then why the fuck
>can't the bigger bands ?????
>
>So to all you people from Sydney and Melbourne, I hope you have a great
>time at your respective gigs, and if you get next to the stage then do
>me a little favour, punch the whole fucking band in their mother-fucking
>dicks.
>
>Till next time.....   WARMASTER
>
>Up the Irons.... Yeah, big fucking joke.
>
>Bastards....
>
>Bruce is a fuckwit....
>
>(Flame Off)
>
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From: st1sq@Elroy.UH.EDU (Charles Foster Kane)
Subject: Z-Rock Guitar Contest
Reply-To: st1sq@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:50:49 GMT

I have something to say about the ongoing Z-rock guitar competition:

The contest said, basically: "send in a tape of around 30 seconds of your
best licks...."

And there's a bunch of people sending in entries which have drum, bass, and
rhythm guitar tracks to help thicken the sound.

Some people are also doubling their lead tracks.

To me, this was not in the spirit of the competition at all. I didn't send in
a tape, but if I would have-I would be quite unhappy.

In closing, to all those who sent in tapes like I described:

    I hope you lose, you fuckin' no good cheating bastard !! 

[End of Gripe]
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From: math1rb@rosie.uh.edu (92F07486)
Subject: Alice in Chains "Dirt" CD
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:13:00 GMT

Hey I was reading the lyrics ti the new AiC cd and i was wondering if anybody 
knows any history ion the band? It seems that at least one of them was a smack
addict because 3 or 4 of the songs (at least) seem to trace the different stages
of addiction...curious, cool, hooked, recovery....BTW their new one is MUCH 
better than the 1st one IMO.
 BTW is there an underground meaning to the word "freak"? does it mean "Addict"?

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From: rtoth@aramis.rutgers.edu (Robert Toth)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Wanted: Info on Lizzy Borden & Saxon
Keywords: Lizzy Borden & Saxon
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:52:26 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Lizzy Borden has 5 albums and 1 live:


Terror Rising   (EP)
Love You To Pieces
Murderous Metal Road Show  (LIVE)
Menace to Society
Visual Lies
Master of Disguise

There is also a video of the Murderous Metal Road Show.

I got to see Lizzy Borden twice. Once on the Visual Lies tour in 87
and once on the Master tour in 91.  Great shows. If he ever comes
around again, go see the show.

...rob
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From: Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Paul Di'Anno's Killers
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:46:54 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Paul Di'Anno's Killers are coming to Pittsburgh later this month.  I was
totally psyched to see this, as my favorite 2 Iron Maiden albums are the
first 2, with him singing. (I just never got into Bruce Dickenson's
voice.  I
liked the music on a lot of those albums, but his voice just never
appealed
to me.  I'm not flaming his singing though, he's quite competant, it just
never did anything for me.)  Anyway, does anyone know who is in Paul's
band? 

Thanks.

--Tom
From: esuln@warwick.ac.uk (James Murray)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: BLACK SABBATH promo
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:27:22 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK

In article <Bvo393.7ML@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bhf35669@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brody H. Finney) writes:
>I'm looking for some info on a Sabbath promo CD from a couple years ago.  I
>remember seeing one that had a live version of "Paranoid" with Martin on
>vocals.  I think it was a B-side of eithe "Headless Cross" or "Feels Good
>to Me."  Any information appreciated, or better yet...sell me a copy!

This isn't a promo. The normal UK issue of "Feels Good To Me" had two live
tracks - Heaven and Hell and Paranoid/Heaven & hell cont'd (sung in the Dio
style as on Live Evil. This was issued on CD and gatefold 12". The two live
tracks were recorded in Moscow in 1989 (I recall)

There are copies available 2nd hand over here.

jsm
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mdb@next04epsl.wam.umd.edu (Michael David Blanford)
Subject: sepultura/ministry/helmet
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:53:33 GMT



anybody else hear the rumor that they will
tour together??

That would sure be KILLER!!  

A definite must see!

pitfiend
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: s0383619@let.rug.nl (J.J.G.M. Nijhuis)
Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate..
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:31:00 GMT

In article <MEGA.92Oct7164347@pyton.cc.lut.fi> mega@lut.fi (Mega the Root of All Evil) writes:
>
> While waiting new material from MF check out "Return of the vampire".
> The sound quality is quite shitty but it has some great previously unreleased
> tunes plus demo versions of tracks published in "Melissa" and "Don't break 
> the oath". 

Yeah, I've already got hold of it. By the way, I don't know if I have all 
the officially released MF material. I do have:

Return of the vampire
The beginning
Melissa
Don't break the oath

Please let me know when there is more MF-stuff around. 

Jurgen.
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From: lsh078@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Judge)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Who hates Queensryche (was:Re: Top 5 most hated)
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:31:00 GMT
Organization: Coventry University

In article <1992Oct5.081408.14347@nntp.hut.fi> m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis) writes:
>In article <92276.222523TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>Yeah, I wouldn't put Queensryche on a top 5 hated list. Probably because they a
>I agree. How come there seems to be so much people who hate Queensryche around
>nowadays. Two years ago Operation Mindcrime was voted the BEST HEAVY METAL
>ALBUM OF ALL TIME in this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
 The only people who constantly slag Queensryche off, are those who do not
 have the intelect to understand the complicated story lines ( in terms of
 Mindcrime) or the social issues and implications ( in the case of Empire).

 And it is not because I don't like death or thrash. I do. But I also like
 music which makes you think, and for me lyrics which describe rotting in hell
 or whatever are far less thought provoking (or even scary) than some of
 todays social problems.

 You don't slag a great novelist off simply because you can't understand his
 or her books- so whats the difference ?
 
-- 
   "How can we know the cost of everything, and never know its worth ?"
                              (Skyclad) 
            
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From: lavonius@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Ville Lavonius)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Mercyful Fate..
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:53:34 GMT
	<LAVONIUS.92Oct7173824@plootu.Helsinki.FI>
	<1992Oct7.182700.24114@news.columbia.edu>
Organization: Cthulhoid Entities for a Better Tomorrow

In article <1992Oct7.182700.24114@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:

   >No, the both bands continue. I don't know whether this MF thing is just for
   >this one record or permanent, but KD is still in form (tho I don't know if they
   >have got a new drummer).

   I thought the drummer was Snowy Shaw from "THE EYE." He's still in the band,
   right? 

KD was supposed to tour Scandinavia and the Baltic countries this past summer
but it was later announced that the tour was cancelled because mr. Shaw had
quit the band. Of course, another magazine spoke of a guitarist leaving the 
band... Whom to believe in, THAT is the question.

   PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
--
Ville Lavonius	        University of Helsinki, Dept. of Computer Science
lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi : "Some of my best friends are nukes" - R. Reagan
From: jdinkins@spaquatic.Eng.Sun.COM (Jeff Dinkins)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: BRADY METAL!
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:27:01 GMT
Reply-To: jdinkins@spaquatic.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: 3-D House of Slave Chicks
NNTP-Posting-Host: spaquatic


 mespinos@mccoy.NMSU.Edu (Michael C Espinosa) writes:
>I don't know about you,
>but "time for change" just rocks!!

 I have no clue what you are talking about.

>sha-na-na  na-na na-na-na-na
>sha-na-na  na-na!!!!
>
>bang your head!!

barf.

>By the way, did you know that "Cindy" Susan Olson, plays bass in 
>a rockin band...word
>
>valkor

 Is it just me, or is this guy getting really annoying?

word indeed.

jeff
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Famous Covertunes 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:42:39 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


In article <1992Oct14.115944.18449@ifi.uio.no>, mortena@ifi.uio.no (Morten Amundsen) writes:
> 
>  Seeing Megadeth and Pantera (!!!!!) I came to think of something while
>  Megadeth played `Anarchy in the UK`...
> 
>  Megadeth      - `Anarchy in the UK`
>  Metallica     - `Am I Evil`
>  Faith No More - `War Pigs`
>  Anthrax       - `Antisocial`
> 
>  What other bands use covertunes as sort of anthems in their sets??

Since nobody else has mentioned it so far, I can't resist:

Sid Vicious - 'My Way'

A wonderful classic of someone with no redeeming qualities whatsoever covering
another of the same.

--Semhaza
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mespinos@spock.NMSU.Edu (Michael C Espinosa)
Subject: Z-Rock Help!!!!!
Keywords: help!
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:31:34 GMT

Could someone please post or send me the rules
of the Z-rock competition and the address also...

thanks...
word...

Nuno!

val
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,rec.music.christian
From: schouten@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten)
Subject: Re: Extreme
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R & D
	<1992Oct8.151944.10409@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:08:24

In article <1992Oct8.151944.10409@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
> schouten@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten) writes:
>> I suppose I can see how someone could have some serious differences 
>> of opinion with Greenpeace (though I don't see those lining up along
>> religious lines)...
>
> required viewing: Life and Death in the North Seas
...
> States. the reason? it shows clearly that Greenpeace's priorities place
> animals high above human life, even when the animals are in no danger
> of extinction.

I'm not saying that I agree with everything (or anything) Greenpeace
does but I still don't see this as lining up along religious lines.
There are really very few people (I believe) who consider individual
animal lives to be more valuable than individual human lives.
I think that just about anyone, christian or otherwise, who believed
this about Greenpeace would therefore not hold them in high regard.
I still don't see this as primarily a religious issue, but rather
a question of what one believes about the actions/motivations of
Greenpeace.  (Yes I know what christianity teaches about the value of
human life, but if you try to remind me of that, you will have missed
the point I'm making).

To put it another way, I could similarly argue that the Moral Majority
was anti-christian because they were trying to oppress the poor.  The
real problem with that is that I'm taking for granted they're trying
to oppress the poor, without considering that there may be other
views on that particular issue.  Taking that for granted, it's easy
to argue that they go against the teachings of Jesus and the bible.

Dale Schouten
schouten@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: uajs@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Anthony Scialdone)
Subject: Re: BLACK SABBATH promo
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:51:03 GMT

In article <Bvo393.7ML@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bhf35669@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brody H. Finney) writes:
>I'm looking for some info on a Sabbath promo CD from a couple years ago.  I
>remember seeing one that had a live version of "Paranoid" with Martin on
>vocals.  I think it was a B-side of eithe "Headless Cross" or "Feels Good
>to Me."  Any information appreciated, or better yet...sell me a copy!
>
>Brody Finney
>

Yeah, I got this single.  The first two songs are the edited and then full
length album versions of "Feels Good To Me" from the TYR album.  The third
track is "Paranoid" recorded live in Moscow from 1989.  I picked it up a
couple months ago at a local record store when they had a blowout on a bunch
of those FOR PROMOTION ONLY singles!  I'm not sure if they have any more or
else I'd offer to purchase it for anyone who might want it.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: Famous Covertunes
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:59:22 GMT

a cover that I rather liked was when Blue Cheer did "Boney Maroney..."

lessee.. there are some really good ones.. 
maiden's "i've got the fire" and "communication breakdown,"
bruce dickinson's cover of deep purple's "black night,"
metallica played purple's "mistreated" when i saw 'em,
purple's (old) cover of "paint it black..."

perhaps the one i most like is metallica's cover of budgie's "breadfan." i
had the original of this before it was covered (on vinyl), and, well, i
don't know how many people listen to budgie anymore.. ever since i got my
budgie cds, i've been a listening to them more (cds are certainly harder to
scratch)

QUIT
der to
scratch)

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:11:15 EDT
From: The Metal God <DVW2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Anyone know about this band?

In article <1992Oct14.111434.7632@iscsvax.uni.edu>,
turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu says: > >Listening to DMX Music Express yesterday
...  heavy metal station ...  heard a >song from a band I had never heard of
before.  > >Does anyone know anything about a band called STONE TEST PILOT?

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS

> >Sounded a lot like Alice In Chains ...  mabey a little heavier.  >

Yeah, they are from the San Diego/LA area and are signed to Atlantic
Records.  They do have a sound very similar to Alice in Chains but slightly
different.  If you like Alice in Chains or My Sister's Machine, I recommend
picking this one up.

-Dave
From: motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Five Most Hated
Date: 8 Oct 1992 08:42:33 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: algol.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <1992Oct8.050532.21629@menudo.uh.edu>, cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU (Periscope) writes:
|> In a previous article, chrisk@nucleus.amd.com (Chris Kosh) says:
|> 
|> >Five Most Hated
|> >
|> >1) Iron Maiden
|> >2) Black Sabbath
|> >3) Slayer
|> >4) Judas Priest
|> >5) Pantera
|> 
|> You can go back over to your friends in Alt.music.country.western now.  You
|> have made it perfectly clear that you have absolutely >NO< concept of what
|> metal music is.
|> 
|> -Scope

Acutally, he can stay right here.  Just what is "metal".  Is it a style of music that
you can't play anything less than 64th notes????  I think not!  I really can't stand that
blood, death, kill sort of faster-than-light metal.  Bands like slayer and venom are
what I always knew as "thrash" no?????  Unless the rules have changed.

John  

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