HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,rec.photo
Subject: two major UK book chains restricting Amateur Photographer
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:02:14 GMT
Followup-To: alt.censorship
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Amateur Photographer is the UK's biggest circulation photography magazine.
From last week's issue:

    An apology to AP readers
    ************************

    _Amateur Photographer_ would like to apologize for any inconvenience
    caused to readers who could not obtain a copy of last week's issue from
    WH Smith and John Menzies.  This was due to the refusal of these
    companies to display the August 1 issue of _AP_, which featured a cover-
    mounted Boots 100 colour print film, in their stores.

    WH Smiths and Menzies Wholesale distributed this issue to other
    newsagents across the country.  WH Smith Retail and John Menzies Retail
    honoured orders placed by individual customers, but decided to withhold
    the issue from display because of the prominence given by _AP_ to a rival
    retailer's brand of film...

This week's issue reprints a whole lot of annoyed letters about this from
AP readers.

If the choice wasn't between two equally crap kinds of film I don't use,
I'd be delighted to tell Smingies I was going to switch brands... at least
I know where not to buy my magazines from now on.  (Smiths has a long
record of politically-motivated censorship, but this is the only instance
of this sort of marketing-driven ban I've ever heard of).

-- 
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From: Mark.Sablow@iphase.UUCP (Mark Sablow)
Sender: FredGate@iphase.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.censorship
Subject: Nea reply
Date: 14 Aug 92  18:40:00 EST

>Date: 08-1292 (19:40)              Number: 380 of 386
>  To: ALL                           Refer#: NONE
>From: MIKE PERCY                      Read: (N/A)
>Subj: RE: NEA = EDUCATION *3*       Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
>Conf: CENSORSHIP (26)            Read Type: GENERAL

>Newsgroups: alt.censorship
>Organization: Clemson University
>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:40:02 GMT


>How about we let those of us who enjoy the arts and want to promote the
>arts donate our "whopping 68 to 70 cents" to an organization which can
>distribute the funds in ways that are more efficient than the government
>does?  And how about letting me give, say, $50, voluntarily -- making
me
>feel good, the arts get funded, nobody is forced into anything -- rather
>than just taking a dollar from every taxpayer to fund things which would
>do quite well without government funding?


My reply:

One day when the system is designed to do this, it would be possible but

for the time being, STOP CRYING about something that provides a positive outlet, & for for only 68 to 70 cents.   Geeeeeee....

I pay taxes for things I do not like either, that's why I vote!

                                                              Mark, aka Professor Atget

 * Origin: Aether (1:112/2020)
20 
20 

Newsgroups: uiuc.general,alt.censorship,rec.arts.fine
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: U. of Illinois may remove non"pleasant" art from vistor's center
Keywords: significant content from an index used as words to a document
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 17:25:33 GMT

mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R Linksvayer) writes:

[...]
>Yes, and as someone noted previously not putting neo nazi
>books in the library reduces access to neo nazi books. 
[...]

The phrase "reduces access" is ambigious. It could mean actual access
or it could mean potential access.

In any case, as far as I know, the Univeristy Library does not
proscribe or remove material of partisan or doctrinal disapproval.

- Carl

ANNOTATED REFERENCES

(All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.)

=================
library/censorship.def.ala
=================
The American Library Association's definition of "censorship" and related
terms.

=================
library/bill-of-rights.ala
=================
The Library Bill of Rights from the American Library Association.

=================
library/diversity.ala
=================
"Diversity in Collection Development"

An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
Bill of Rights"

It says that collections should be inclusive, not exclusive. And that
materials should cover the needs and interest of all patrons. "This
includes materials that reflect political, economic, religious,
social, minority, and sexual issues."


=================
library/challenged-materials.ala
=================
"Challenged Materials"

An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
Bill of Rights"

=================
library/selection-workbook.ala
=================
Full text of ALA's selection policy workbook.

The American Library Association's "Workbook on Selection Policy
Writing". Although aimed at textbook and library book selection in
grade and high schools, it also seems applicable to newsgroup
selection. It includes information about how create a selection policy
and how to handle complaints. It also includes a sample selection
policy.

=================
=================

These document(s) are available by anonymous ftp (the preferred
method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp
to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s):

  pub/academic/library/censorship.def.ala
  pub/academic/library/bill-of-rights.ala
  pub/academic/library/diversity.ala
  pub/academic/library/challenged-materials.ala
  pub/academic/library/selection-workbook.ala

To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org.
Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file
name):

send acad-freedom/library censorship.def.ala
send acad-freedom/library bill-of-rights.ala
send acad-freedom/library diversity.ala
send acad-freedom/library challenged-materials.ala
send acad-freedom/library selection-workbook.ala
--
Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: alt.censorship
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Limiting religious speech
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 09:45:40 EDT

In article <1992Aug20.190544.11665@athena.cs.uga.edu> heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath) writes:
>
>Wrong.  It depends upon the circumstances.
>If it is a graduation ceremony at a state owned and run institution,
>then there should be no prayer.

No.  There should be no *state-sponsored* prayer.

-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,soc.rights.human,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath)
Newsgroups: alt.censorship
Subject: Re: Limiting religious speech
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:05:44 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <4-hy-yq@rpi.edu> aultj@rpi.edu (Jim Ault) writes:
>
>Ok, here's a question for anti-censorship people:
>
>How many of you are dismayed at the recent Supreme Court ruling in
>Lee v. Weisman, which held prayer at graduation ceremonies
>unconstitutional?   If this isn't stifling free speech, what is? 
>
>Let's all raise our voices and demand that this be overturned.
>
>Right?
>

Wrong.  It depends upon the circumstances.
If it is a graduation ceremony at a state owned and run institution,
then there should be no prayer.  This is because a prayer is
subscribable to a particular religion, even one as general as
Christianity, and the state should not be in the bussiness of
endorsing any particular religion.   Even if the majority of students
are Christian, it does not give them the right to attach their
religious beliefs to a ceremony that belongs to all students,
including those who are nonchristian.

Remember, we do not live in a true democracy, but rather a republic
that makes an effort to protect the minority from the potential (and
sometimes real) tyranny of the majority.




-- 
"Black men loving black men is THE revolutionary act!"
			-Joseph Beam_
Terrance Heath 
heath@athena.cs.uga.edu
Newsgroups: alt.censorship
From: grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy)
Subject: Re: Nea = education *3*
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:40:02 GMT


How about we let those of us who enjoy the arts and want to promote the
arts donate our "whopping 68 to 70 cents" to an organization which can
distribute the funds in ways that are more efficient than the government
does?  And how about letting me give, say, $50, voluntarily -- making me
feel good, the arts get funded, nobody is forced into anything -- rather
than just taking a dollar from every taxpayer to fund things which would
do quite well without government funding?


Mike Percy             | grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu  | I don't know about
Sr. Systems Analyst    | mspercy@clemson.clemson.edu | your brain, but mine
Info. Sys. Development | mspercy@clemson.BITNET      | is really...bossy.
Clemson University     | (803) 656-3780              | (Laurie Anderson)
Xref: sparky alt.censorship:7061 rec.humor:26771 soc.culture.polish:2053
From: page@cray.com (Michael Page)
Newsgroups: alt.censorship,rec.humor,soc.culture.polish
Subject: Too many polack jokes can be FATAL!!!!!!!!!!
Summary: ugly incident in Parma, Ohio
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:25:27 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

Given the recent rash of Polack jokes, I felt that it was only fair to warn
you of the fate that befell two young comedians last weekend in Parma. Seems
they told one too many ethnic jokes ... They were found in the alley behind
a nightclub the next day  ....  YES!!! ... with their heads tied together and
shot through the hands

Sad but true!
From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Limiting religious speech
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 09:23:53 EDT

In article <4-hy-yq@rpi.edu> aultj@rpi.edu (Jim Ault) writes:
>
>Ok, here's a question for anti-censorship people:
>
>How many of you are dismayed at the recent Supreme Court ruling in
>Lee v. Weisman, which held prayer at graduation ceremonies
>unconstitutional?   If this isn't stifling free speech, what is? 

Please explain what portion of the decision stifles speech, in your view.

-- 
J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu
(I like to put 'greeny' here, 
but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Is sachz male or female ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:37:46 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In <BtC4Jq.H0J@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:

>How about 'alt.people.too.clueless.to.understand.their.editors' ?

>Come back when you understand "delete-line".

Then there's the ever possible newsgroup

alt.jackass.who.thinks.he.is.respected

alt.matt.is.an.irc.reject

Man, I must be one of the only people who hasn't killfiled you yet.
Your posts are almost as useless as mine for crying out loud. But,
we all know there's one difference between you and I. No, I'm not
referring to your sub-human intelligence. I'm referring to the
fact that you actually care about irc. Face it man. You and your
computer are bonded like no husband and wife, and I suggest you 
take a break from you computers. Your little dorky posts of critique
serve no purpose and only backfire. The initial guy had a good point,
and I figure his post (all 400+ lines) was less of a waste of bandwidth
then your first sentence. Perhaps they should stop giving computer
accounts out to grade school students...

   steve
-- 
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sd;lfaswoq[eBuyMeAQuadra!!!mbnZMXCNdfsba;KdSPAMiuroqiyetIBMSuxiweuryth'ewr;mxn
qpuepriuPartyOneqtuj;,n.,xnc,kjasFlameMeNot!;lkj;lkgkjd;askElvisLivesjhfquweru
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: aiken@netcom.com (The Nonborn King)
Subject: Say what?  (was Re: *** Closing Link: DemoN...)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:17:30 GMT
Organization: Baffled Looks 'R' Us

In article <1992Aug10.152210.26620@vlsi.polymtl.ca> doctor@watson (Bao-Phac Do (doctor zero)) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.104126.26825@ctr.columbia.edu> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
>>Tonight has been a bad night for IRCing.  Links are being closed left and
>
>[ ... ]
>
>>going on here?  It APPEARS that somebody on #hack has discovered a way to kill
>>people (mentioning this to some people, and FourDee's name comes up ...),
>>having it show up and work like a "Bad link?" or "Write error", and it is
>
>... an ICMP bomb thanx to Aiken.

Uh, excuse me?  I don't even know _how_ to do an ICMP bomb, although I 
understand the theory.  Why do you think I did it?

Geez...

Aik


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"...if every man says all he can, if every man is true,        Enya & Roma Ryan
do I believe the sky above is Caribbean blue..."         'Caribbean Blue', 1991

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jerodh@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Jerod Husvar)
Subject: Problems at Kent State.
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:12:55 GMT

FYI:  Mirkwood.mcs.kent.edu is experiancing continued down-time due to our 
moving all systems to our new Math/Computer Science facility.  The server may
actually be moved to our new Sun 4/670, but in the meantime will contiune to
be running on mirkwood.  Completion of the move is expected withing the next
two weeks.


-- 
 / Jerod J. Husvar       \ / Internet Relay Chat Admin, (On IRC as Jerod)    \ 
:> jerodh@mcs.kent.edu   <:> Self-Proclaimed Computer Addict                 <:
:> Kent State University <:> P.O. Box 35, Rootstown, OH, USA (216) 325-2849  <:
 \ Kent, Ohio  USA       / \ I do consulting.      #include <std.disclaimer> / 
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Is sachz male or female ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:42:45 GMT

In article <BtC8Mz.5sM@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>Then there's the ever possible newsgroup
>alt.jackass.who.thinks.he.is.respected

More respected than you, at least.  But then, who isn't?

>Man, I must be one of the only people who hasn't killfiled you yet.

And where are you getting this information?  Just because you're in a lot of 
killfiles doesn't mean everyone else is.

>referring to your sub-human intelligence. I'm referring to the
>fact that you actually care about irc. Face it man. You and your

Check the facts, loser... I've been on about 20 minutes in the past month.
The only reason I still read this newsgroup is to laugh at little twits 
like you who are badly in need of a life.

> Your little dorky posts of critique
>serve no purpose and only backfire.

As if your own posts were any different... 

>and I figure his post (all 400+ lines) was less of a waste of bandwidth
>then your first sentence.

What astounding leap of logic led you to that conclusion?  

> Perhaps they should stop giving computer
>accounts out to grade school students...

But then, you wouldn't have one either...

-- 
"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure)
Subject: Thecure apology (part I)
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 08:57:41 GMT


I posted this to my IRC admin, and unix admin earlier today.
---------------------------------------------------------------

You may get mail (I know danielce has already) regarding things 
I did today on IRC. After a lengthy discussion, others and myself
have decided what I did was the wrong thing, for which I am
apologetic. 

I shan't be repeating these actions again, and I intend to 
apologise to all people involved if I am given the chance.

Let me assure you, I will not be visiting the mentioned channel
again .




                            Always question authority.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: tom@bim.itc.univie.ac.at (Tom Kovar)
Subject: Re: The shit (server upgrade).
Organization: Inst.of Theor.Chemistry,Univ.of Vienna,Austria
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:10:26 GMT

buboo@taxus.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen) writes:
: Why can't the RESPONSIBLE for the server coding set up a test net.
: AND TEST, or pull togehter some people and let them set up a test net.
: 
: Everyone with some degree of Computer Science *KNOW* (or else they
: should change college/university right NOW), that program development
: is not just code grinding. 
: It's also testing.
: 
: Last time I was hired for a huge programming project (1000 hours ++)
: I was explicit asked if I do testing of the code I write. So I answerd 
: that the testing bit was aprox 50 % - 60 % of the total time budget.
: Good my emplyer said, and I was hired.
: 

  Keep cool, Ruben. Do you want to join those who like to forget IRC is just
a toy? I've thought it be your opinion, too. Hvis du vil kjempe mot dumheten,
du skulle ikke slutte deg til denne kretsen...
								Tom
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: *** Closing Link: DemoN[dopey.cc.utexas.edu] DemoN (Bad link?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:57:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.070257.2452@ctr.columbia.edu> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
>
> It seemed
>more likely (to me, anyways) that somebody had a trojan in the ircd code, or
>perhaps found some other sort of bug in it 

oh, I can't imagine _that_!
-- 
"What? Over? Did you say it's over? Nothing's over, till we decide it is! 
 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!" --John Belushi
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Is sachz male or female ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 09:44:31 GMT
Organization: Aston University

tsh@lesti.hut.fi (Timo Hyv|nen) writes:

: Whaddafuck. What's the use of posting this kind of nonsense here????
: 
: How about creating few more groups:
: 
: alt.irc.logs
What was the original log intended to show?

: alt.irc.he_or_she
How can you tell anyway?

: alt.irc.personals

Well they could always use alt.personals, or alt.personals.ads
: and finally

: alt.irc.users.americans

With a default distribution of the USA only.
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: Santafe IRC server
Organization: None, today. Thank you.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:43:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug6.132237.28841@uwm.edu> yanoff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott A. Yanoff) writes:
>
>The telnetable IRC server at:
>santafe.santafe.edu/192.12.12.2
>
>Now asks for a password...are they no longer running IRC?

Evidently not, Scott. When I "telnet"ed to it yesterday and logged in as
"irc", a message came up telling me that service was no longer available.
It then politely terminated my connection.

BTW, does anyone have a list of "irc" servers that they could mail me?
Or, if this in a "faq", could someone send me a copy? Thanx.

-- 
Puter	puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com	.sig by Generic Labels
(Put irritating title here)		(Put phone # here.)
(Put obnoxious quote here. Please make it as long as possible.)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Re: The shit (server upgrade).
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:43:18 GMT

# GLOBAL MESSAGE LABEL: Not a flame. Just a remark and a clarification.

Christopher Davis writes:
>Ove> == Ove Ruben R Olsen <buboo@taxus.uib.no> 

# LOCAL REMARK LABEL

> Ove> Last time I was hired for a huge programming project (1000 hours ++)
>                      ^^^^^
>Hey, I never got my check from you for the work I've done on the server,
>so what're you complaining about?  You want your money back?

So much for the example.

Malcolm-X said: They take one little word out of your mouth and then start
to spread it all over the place.

Do you want money ? OK, send me your adress and I'll pay you for what I
think IRC is worth. Just what IRC is worth, not your job or anyone elses.
Just the shit :-))))))

# LOCAL CLARIFICATION LABEL 

> Ove> Why is it that just one person have to do all the work ?
>
>I don't know; what've you done for the server lately?

It was not a complain. It was a suggestion. Nothing more.
It seems that one must put a label on every word these days.
(or else someone can sue me :-))

# LOCAL RAMBELING LABEL

No, I have not done much lately. I did something some releases ago.
Only local changements, nothing fancy. 

If you do not want my suggestions, that is fine. But then you must tell
me so. I can't read your mind. :-)

# LOCAL SIGNATURE LABEL

-- 
        Ove Ruben R Olsen a Gnarfer and VI user. EMAIL: ruben@uib.no. 
     Maintaining the EX/VI-archive and a couple of the Comp.Editors FAQs.
    People that are ignorant tend to live a frustrated life, at least when 
     it comes to editing - But I do belive this is a general rule in life
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: Whois command
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:50:11 GMT

From article <1992Aug17.231723.28993@u.washington.edu>, by malea@milton.u.washington.edu (Julie Thompson):
> I am very new to irc and am probably asking something that's been asked before
> but I am really curious.  When I was conversing on one of the channels I used
> the whois command to find out who people were and it worked for everyone but
> one person.  I know I typed it in correctly, but when I typed it for this one
> person it appeared on the screen - can anyone tell me why?  

It was probably a nick with a backslash (or slosh) ('\') character in it.
Under current versions of ircII you need to double up any backslash characters
to achieve what you really want. This is due to a feature of ircII that has
been used in the past by advanced users.

Once the current development version (ircII 2.2) becomes the standard client,
this problem will disappear.
__________________________________________________________________________
troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.
--
__________________________________________________________________________
troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU	Overworked, overcommited and always multitasking.
From: clgp14@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Scotland/IRC
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:40:18 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Intrested in using IRC from Srathclyde Uni Scotland.I use the vax/vms network
and have both telnet and ftp at my disposal and have various IRC addresses
which I can connect to but not login to. I need information on how to login
to these clients therefore can anyone give me some information.
Please Email information if possible.

Cheers
Ian Davis
Newsgroups: alt.irc