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From: cmurray@esk (Christopher John Murray)
Subject: Re: TO TAB OR NOT TO TAB......
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:37:10 GMT

     I haven't been following this thread because I find it boring as hell,
but I just think I'll bore everybody back for a change and put my .0002 in.

     TAB has shortcomings, sure, it can't show rhythm and its very
instument specific, to the point of only being useful for the instrument
it written for (for string instruments, only in the tuning used in that
case).  

     My point is: why the hell does it matter?  This is a *guitar*
newgroup, dealing in guitar tab, if its got a queer tuning the nice
people tell you about it, it helps the newbies who would otherwise
be spending hours going 'every nice boy deserves blah blah' as they
try to turn sheet music into something that dosesn't resemble a pictogram
of flies on a barbed wired fence with a latin subtitle and I'd _really_
like to see someone come up with a better way of transmitting music
information in ascii!!!

     One last thing.. TAB doesn't have key signatures.  big bonus for
people (me) who forget that theyre there and stuff things up.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: cdj@iti.org (Chris D. Jennings)
Subject: Re: CANDY AND THE BITCH
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Distribution: U.S.A. 
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:00:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.051748.28804@exu.ericsson.se> exubrst@exu.ericsson.se writes:
>In article 23001@news.cs.brandeis.edu, littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu () writes:
>>In article <YdsF0oy00WBOE5Rm8d@andrew.cmu.edu>, pp21+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul Andrew Platosh) writes:
>>>>	No. What kind of person names their guitars? They're a hunk of
>>>>         wood. HeLLO!
>>> If your guitar is a hunk of wood, I suggest you get a new guitar.
>>>Great guitar legends name their guitars (BB King - Lucielle[sp?])
>>>==Paul Platosh
>>
>>         That stings coming from a guy who can't spell Lucille. I
>>         wasn't aware that I was in the presence of "guitar gods."
>>
>>         hyeah, you're a god. . . NOT. You *must* play a "terminator"
>>         from service merchandise. . . the one with the built-in amp,
>>         right? You probably call it Arnold or something.
>
>
>Jeez!  This guy's got one hell of an attitude.
>
>Listen, if the guy wants to name his guitar,
>he obviously involves some emotion in his playing.
>
>I think you need to take some of this anger you have
>and write a song about it instead of ramming it down
>someone else's throat.  And while your at it, you might
>want to name YOUR guitar.
>

I suspect he's already named it...perhaps a name like "With
Himself," and he doesn't have anything better to do than play it
(and flame other alt.guitarists).
;^)
From: littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: CANDY AND THE BITCH
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:40:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr6.234035.16769
Reply-To: littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <1992Apr6.135224.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, greenspa@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>well, i know that bb king named his guitar Lucille and i've heard 
>that Billy Sheehan named his bass "the Wife". I've named my brite,
>brite red strat "candy" (miss applered to you!) and my fender p-bass
>"the bitch". I was wondering if anyone else out there in net.land
>named their instruments. (ps this is just a desperate attempt to
>start a new thread!!!) 
>                        guitarfully yours, 
>                        thrashmaster rustafari

	No. What kind of person names their guitars? They're a hunk of
         wood. HeLLO!
From: ferg@brahms.udel.edu (Christopher Ferguson)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: 4-track question
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:29:01 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware


I am soon to purchase a 4-track recorder, and will most likely by a
Fostex X-26 or a Tascam 424. Does anyone have any experience using either
of these that can give me some advice.


ferg
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: gunter@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Gunter Ahrendt)
Subject: E-Bow
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:24:26 GMT

Anyone out there use(d) an E-Bow, would like to hear some experiences.
From: tlhilde@roby.ecn.purdue.edu (Troy Hildebrand)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: running hot
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:27:13 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


My girlfriend says she needs a new amp, because in order to hear her
bass on stage, she has to have her amp (100W Fender)cranked up to about
9, and that that is bad for the amp.  Is it true that running an amp
toward the high end is bad, or are amps really designed to be run on
any setting?  Info into this would be appreciated.  Email would probably
be best, as this is fairly specific to my situation.

Thanks.

Troy
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: poirier@bnr.ca (Daniel Poirier)
Subject: Rush tab request: thanks everyone...
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:51:45 GMT

Thanks to all the people who responded to my request for tab (I was
looking for Spirit of Radio and Closer to the Heart, by canadian group
Rush). Many people responded with either the actual tab to Closer to the
Heart, or an anonymous FTP site which had a nice collection of Rush tab
material. I still haven't found Spirit of Radio (except for the bass tab,
which I don't need), but I did get Closer to the Heart.

Thanks again...

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From: ebshen@athena.mit.edu (Eric B Shen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Acoustic Guitar Pedal survey -HELP ME PLEASE!
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:50:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr7.205008.4108
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Thanks to all who have been responding.  Because of your comments, I am posting
this again with simpler explanation.  I am NOT planning to go into the details of
how this thing would be made.  I just want to know "IF it were made, would you
buy it?" and whetever else you might like to add.

So please send your responses to me at :

		ebshen@athena.mit.edu

Here's the basic survey follwed with some answers to questions you guys have
raised:

Acoustic Guitar Pedal

This is an effects pedal that will make your electric guitar sound like
virtually ANY acoustic guitar.  It will simulate the sounds of nylon to
steel strings, and will be able sound like bigger or smaller guitars, as
well as some eq for character.

It will act as a preamp, as most effects pedals are able to.  So it will
be able to go direct into a recorder/mixer.

Survey:

1) Would you buy such a device?

2) How much would you expect to pay for it?  (how about $250?)

3) Any suggestions for features?

4) What is your age and occupation?


Some comments:  A lot of you guys don't think you should pay more than say $150
for this thing.  I think 1) you are underestimating the difficulty in designing
such a device, and 2) you are underestimating the applications of the device.
Basically, this would be a complex device!  Why do you think no one has been able
to do this already?  I don't know how to solve all the engineering issues, that's
not really the point of my project.  (I'm looking more into the business side of
things).

It is reasonable to assume that you shouldn't pay more than a comparable acoustic
guitar would cost.  But really, if the device worked well, it would be able to
simulate anything from a Martin Dreadnought to an Ovation.  Sure, it's not likely
that such a pedal could be made to do all this, but just pretend it could!

Someone suggested that I add 12-string simulation to the pedal.  This is
feasible, but requires more money!  I figure you could simulate this with some
chorusing and pitch shifting(detuning).  So really, this thing would end up being
a full blown rack processor to simulate acoustic guitars (which really isn't a
bad idea).  But I want to keep it simple for now, so no 12-string.

Yes, of course, it will not be able to simulate the feel of an acoustic, since
electrics and acoustics are completely different animals.  The point of the pedal
is to capture the sound of the acoustic for amplification and recording.

Thanks.

Eric Shen
ebshen@athena.mit.edu
 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: zpino@trauco (Zvonko Pino Varela)
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd.....
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:09:06 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Chile, Depto. de Ciencias de la Computacion


 Somebody can help me?. I'am Floyd's fanatic but my english is poor.
 I need the words for the next songs (and/or Tabs is better..) :

  <;-) Have a Cigar
  >:-( Pigs (3 different Ones)
  [:-| Learning to Fly
  ]:^) On the Turning Away

 For last . Somebody know something about Silvio Rodrigues?.. (I know).

 Thanks...  (this group is fantastic!..)



 Zvonko Pino V.              email: zpino@dcc.uchile.cl
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: aash@ms.uky.edu (aash)
Subject: Re: Alice Cooper
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:37:28 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr10.094319.15267@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> css1rs@mcs.surrey.ac.uk writes:
>I am interested in any Alice Cooper tabs/progressions etc, if 
>any one has any I would be very gratefull to receive them and 
>indeed any advice on how to play them etc. I will make a note of
>any one that send me tabs and offer any I get in the future without
>request by them, if that make any difference.

a good 3 chorder:

Em - C - D  "lines form on my face and hands..."
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aash@ukpr.uky.edu
From: mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: TO TAB OR NOT TO TAB......
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:33:22 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr9.162131.15848@acsu.buffalo.edu> v056rcrx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chuck, the Fencing God) writes:


>all these things are opinions!!!!!   respect others' opinions and be respected!
Thank God there is another in the world who is  a decent person.
Fair play to you. I hope you don't get flamed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-John Mc Donagh.                   ~~                         {Nascent Virion}
mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie              ~~                        "In Fear of Fear"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The next performance is a comedy, Beware of the soothsayers sop
 Untangle the pearls, Don't hinder the pages, Beat the reaper to the crop."
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: blondie@wpi.WPI.EDU (The Blonde One)
Subject: Wanted Dead or Alive
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:19:43 GMT


I recently saw a request for the intro to Bon Jovi's Wanted Dead or Alive 
and I was interested in having it mailed to me.......if anyone has it please
send it to me......I have been trying to figure this out for two years and I
can't figure it out......thanx in advance
-blondie
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: SRV model Strat Corrections
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:04:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


	Hey guys/gals I think I stand corrected concerning the SRV strat
	that fender is producing. The first info I got was from fenders own
	publication. Its a 5 page pr rag kinda like the Peavey Monitor, but
	alot smaller. They had a small picture and about 6 lines that described
	the guitar. "Vintage fender pick-ups and vintage frets". 

	I just read a new release in G.P they now describe the guitar as having
	three special wound "Texas style vintage pick-ups" and tall narrow 6105
	Dunlop frets. 

	Idiot Instructions
	"Open Mouth, Insert foot, Chew Vigorously"


	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
	Come on down to the Sippen E-Z
From: ghamlin@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Griffith Askew Iii Hamlin)
Subject: Re: trems questions
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Reply-To: ghamlin@ics.uci.edu (Griffith Askew Iii Hamlin)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:08:29 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.142033.8510@acsu.buffalo.edu> v125njuc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (DA BIG FAT FUNKY BUTT-GROOVE) writes:
>
>In article 2401
>Dave
>bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>
>Anybody know why they stopped making Washburn Wonderbars?
>I saw an ad for them in an old guitar player mag and the idea seemed
>pretty cool
>
>Thanks
>Rich

Regrettably, although being a cool design, they did not sell. From
what I understand (word of mouth of course) they did not last very
long as far as the moving parts wearing out.

Griff Hamlin
From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Steve Vai and guitar questions.
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:17:26 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <1992Apr1.012733.2829@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
fkam_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Kevin McFadden) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Mar31.142413.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsmlw1@acad3.alaska.edu
writes:
> >Don't want to offend anyone but Steve Vai is the master all others take
lessons
> >from. He is the best guitar player of this decade and possibly ever. So Eddie
> >VanHalen... Bite me... Anyway I have several questions... I know most of the
> >people who subscribe to this newsgroup know what they are talking about so
her
> >goes...
> 
> No offense but Steve Vai doesn't have half the artistic talent of half the
> guitarists out there, to name a few: Larry Carlton, Al DiMeola, EVH of old,
> Joe Satriani.  Vai has a huge load of talent but everything he has put
> on vinyl hasn't done much for my soul or ears.

Music is a matter of taste, personally I think Vai is far more funny and
creative than Carlton, DiMeola and the rest of the L.A. super-guitar
heroes - speak about boring material. Flex:ible was quite fun as a guitar
record, and Vai is one of the few guitar players that have created his
own unique style, even if he works nowadays in the crowded heavy metal
soup factory.

Anyway, it's a matter of taste. I don't either think that Carlton would
have been suitable for the role of Jack Butler in "Cross-roads" :-).

Cheers,
Kent
From: frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Maple Neck Refrets
Summary: leave unfinished or not?
Keywords: refretting
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:51:56 GMT

I'm getting my '6? tele refretted and since the fingerboard needs
sanded I have to decide whether to get it re-laquered or leave it
bare.  I wonder how the years will treat it if I leave it unfinished;
any opinions or personal experiences welcomed.


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From: gerbil@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (John Patrick Sawyer)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: chords!
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:53:12 GMT
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix


To the person asking about guitar chord syntax 



Asus4 means you play the tonic the 4th anf the fifth

	so Asus4 looks like

-----|-----|-------|e
-----|-----|---o---|b
-----|--o--|-------|g
-----|--o--|-------|d
-----|-----|-------|a
-----|-----|-------|e

A/C# means that you play an A chord with a C# bass
A/D  means you play an A chord with a D bass and so on

some other common ones are
-----|-----|-----|
-----|--o--|-----|
--o--|-----|-----|     Amaj7 a seventh chord but the seventh is raised a
-----|--o--|-----|     semi tone
-----|-----|-----|
_----|-----|-----|

A9 an A chord with a seventh and a ninth
4th Fret
  |----|---o-|
  |----|---0-|
  |----|--o--|
  |--o-|-----|
  |----|--o--|
 x|----|-----|
tip lay you third finger on the top three strings
and you can slide this one up and down to strings to provide any ninth
chord
	These chords are by no means exculsive and there are many others
but they provide examples of the ideas
	Have Fun cause the guitar is a lot of fun
		John "the gerbil" Sawyer


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From: mccoll@cse.uta.edu (Roddy McColl)
Subject: Rockman purchase anyone ?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Univ. of Texas at Arlington
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:44:46 GMT

 Since my neighbors in apartmentland are mostly wrinklies and therefore
allergic to most sounds, I'd like to get one of these Rockman thingies.
They haven't been getting the best treatment from this news group so I
wonder what alternatives there are (strictly for guitar - box -
headphones) to this machine. By the way, what is the price range I can
expect ?

Roddy McColl

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mcnab@dinsdale.nas.nasa.gov (David McNab)
Subject: Re: Acoustic Guitar - What to look for?
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 21:49:01 GMT

In article <2839@faatcrl.UUCP>, frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman) writes:
|>  Nothing comes close to Ovations as far as durability.  The finish on
|>  the tops is practically unscrachable (hence no pickguards) and the
|>  backs are made of some composite material, so you really have to
|>  abuse them to damage them.  The also have fast necks, quality
|>  components and good resale value.  I've owned an Electric Legend for
|>  about 10 years, and have been very happy with it.
|> 
|>  As far as sound goes, you have to judge for yourself.  They have a
|>  sound of their own; I think they sound pretty good acousticaly, but
|>  not nearly as good as a good wooden guitar.  As an acoustic/electric,
|>  I think they sound as good or better than any thing I've heard, and
|>  have nearly no feedback problems.

Ovations do sound good through an amp, but personally
I don't think much of their acoustic guitar tone.  I'm
surprised nobody's mentioned what I consider to be the
worst thing about them -- they slip off your lap when
you sit on a stool to play.

The nicest acoustic guitar I've played recently for
under $1000 was a Taylor -- I don't remember which
model number, but I felt and sounded beautiful.

David
mcnab@nas.nasa.gov
From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Ampeg Baby Bass?
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:18:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <BM3pBL.1Gs@world.std.com>, geffy@world.std.com (geffry king) writes...
>This may be kind of perip[heral to alt.guitar, but until someone
>puts alt.bass to a vote, here goes...Anyone out there in alt.guitar
>land own an Ampeg baby bass? I'm a Fender Jazz player but I've owned an 
>Ampeg since 1988 and parts, repairs, correspondence with other owners
>is hard to come by - I'm literally the only person I know who plays one!
>Anybody want to talk about strings, EQ, parts, history, manuals, or
>anything else, email me at work king.geffry.epamail.epa.gov or geffy
>@access.digex.com or here @ world.std.com. LOoking forward to hearing
>from someone. *GBK*

Yeah, I have one, mine is sunburst...what color is yours?  I've seen some in
*turquoise* for pete's sake.  

EQ?  Well, it needs a *lot* of help with most amps.  I particularly have a
problem in the 500-1K range where it seems really peaky. I usually have the
tone knob on the bass almost all the way off to help reject contact noise. I
also had trouble with rattling noises from the peg itself, so I stuck masking
tape all over it to damp it and that helped considerably although it makes
adjusting the peg a PITA.

Strings? Thomastiks is what I *think* is on it right now.  Haven't changed them
for about eight years.

Parts?  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

History?  I think they came out in 1962.  There was a "Patent Search" column in
an older GP that talked about it.  Walter Hull (Ampeg's founder) basically
thought Leo Fender was a jerk for inventing the P-bass and wanted the upright
to reassume its rightfully dominant role.  Oh well...

Anything else?  You can still get gig bags for these (Mooradian makes 'em,
they're about $300) and they are still popular among Latin players for some
reason.  They also look way cool on stage.  I don't use mine all that much
(current repertoire doesn't call for any upright) but I'll likely keep it
forever (unless someone makes me a serious cash offer!!!  8^)  8^)).


					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

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From: c9111400@cc.newcastle.edu.au (JUST SETTLE DOWN, SETTLE DOWN, SETTLE DOWN.......)
Subject: GUILD GUITARS -> especially basses
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:37:20 GMT



Hi....I'm looking at buying a GUILD bass guitar. But i wanted to find out
a bit more info about guild before i decide..

	First of all what are their basses like. The one i'm looking at has
kind of a Gibson SG body with pickups like SG/Les Paul...I think it might be
a custom built guitar with just a GUILD neck. 

	Any info on Guild guitars and general opinions please email.

____________________________
Matthew Flanagan

c9111400@cc.newcastle.edu.au
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From: ksand@apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: now for something completely different:
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:56:04 GMT
Organization: MacDTS Mongols

In article <1992Mar31.214709.28563@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (L'ANGELO MYSTERIOSO) writes:
> 
> as of late, i'm having a pronlem that has yet to be mentioned 
> here. Once in a while, i get the inner drive to write a song.
> once i get around to sitting down with a guitar, however, i end
> up putzing around with the same old riffs i always do, and 
> nothing original comes out. i've come out with one tune in
> the past year, and although everyone says it's really good,
> i wish i could come up with stuff more often. anyone know how 
> to break this kind of "writer's block", or how to take a
> feeling of inspiration and turn it into a finished piece of
> music?

I don't know if this has to do with guitars, but my way of 
getting rid of any blocks is to record, record, record. Also
play with all kinds of people, all kinds of music, with anyone
who could play an instrument. That's the source of inspiration.

It's funny too see how my 11 month old son is already trying
to put together songs on a small toy piano. I sometimes wonder
what's the drive a musician has, even when one is 11 months old.

Cheers,
Kent
From: frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: lace sensors
Summary: wiring configuration
Keywords: lace sensors
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:16:18 GMT

I've seen some stratocaster models that have two lace sensors mounted
side by side at the bridge.  Is anyone familiar with these models and
able to tell me how they are wired (my guess is in series)?


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