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From: ficara@remus.rutgers.edu (ken ficara)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: Re: Witnesses to car accident
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:45:37 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jbs@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.b.skiendziel) writes:

>In article <tommy.724732896@hilbert>, tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold) writes:
>> tld@moon.base.bellcore.com (Terry Davidson) writes:
>> 
>> $ I was driving a black 1981 Ford stepside pickup southbound, following
>> $ a small beige sedan.  The sedan slowed down abruptly to turn left
>> $ into the dairy; and I was not able to stop in time to avoid
>> $ hitting her. 
>> 
>> Why were you not able to stop?  Were you following too closely?  If he
>> was directly in front of you before he slowed down, it was your fault.

Bingo. Thank you. Next time you (original poster) -- or anyone else --
are following me too closely, and I start to tap my breaks, and you
continue to tailgate me, and I slow down to the speed limit or lower,
you'll know why. As another poster said, there is little or no excuse
for rear-ending someone. You are responsible for keeping control of
your vehicle -- what if a child had run out in front of the driver in
front of you? 

I see far too many accidents caused by that kind of driving. If you
can't stop in time, you're driving too close.


Ken Ficara                                        ficara@remus.rutgers.edu
GEnie: K.FICARA / Compuserve: 71311,1461 / AOL: KENFICARA / Prodigy: (Ha!)
From: stevez@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (steven.a.zubatkin)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: Re: self-serve gas stations (was: Re: secret speed limit )
Date: 1 Jan 93 01:29:36 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

> is "a good idea" because of promised lower prices.  Funny thing is that in
> self-serve states the self-serve pump price is pretty close to the
> full serve price in NJ.  If self-serve is so much cheaper, why is there not
> more of a difference?  Try asking that of a oil company's district rep and
> see if he gives you a straight answer.

I have previously posted on this topic and have stated my views that
essentially disagrees with yours.  However, neither of us can PROVE our
points; only the market can decide.

However, you have asked a question about which I can answer.  The
question is on the price of self-serve vs. full serve gas.

If you compare prices of gasoline between states, you are really
comparing the price of wallets and oranges.  Because of the effect of
taxes, the comparison is impossible.  Athough the federal tax on gas
is constant, the size of the state tax varies tremendously from state
to state.

My belief is that the oil companies want self-serve; they want to
reduce the cost of providing the commodity with NO EFFORT AT ALL.
When that happens, supply and demand take over and I say the demand
will rise when the price goes down.

BTW, my father was a contractor for service stations for also 30+
years.  I'm not really sure this is relevant though; the market has
changed quite a bit now.

Steve Zubatkin
Morristown, NJ

I speak for myself.
Newsgroups: nj.wanted,bcr.wanted,nj.forsale,misc.consumers,misc.consumers.house
From: mcg@cupid.cc.bellcore.com (germain,mark c)
Subject: For Sale: Answering machine-GE 2-9882
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 03:00:14 GMT
Followup-To: poster





	  For Sale: Answering Machine, GE		December 28, 1992
	  Model	2-9882
							Mark C.	Germain
							Voice-Home: 908	431 7677



	  1.  Description

	  The 2-9882 is	a reasonably sophisticated answering machine
	  that data and	time-stamps each message. It uses two micro-
	  cassettes, generally available, of type commonly used	for
	  micro-recorders. Number of stored incoming message is	only
	  limited by the length	of tape.

	  The "out-going" message tape microcassette is	of the same
	  type as the incoming message cassette.

	  This unit has	been in	use for	approximately eight months.


	  2.  Features



	     o Automatic "date-time" stamping of "incoming" message;

	     o "Toll-saver" feature, pick-up on	two rings if new
	       messages;

	     o "Online"	feature-access code menu during	remote
	       access;

	     o Three-digit security code, may be changed remotely;

	     o Battery power back-up;

	     o "Memo reminder",	plays back user	pre-recorded message
	       at specified time;

	     o Three-digit red LED message count display (also used
	       for time	display);


	  3.  Price

	  Asking price:	  $65


				       Have a good day


				       Mark 
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
From: aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Unposted speed limits (was Re: Witnesses to car accident
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:52:03 GMT

>(I don't recall the exact wording, but that is the gist of it). If you are
>a NJ resident, you should have read that when you took your NJ written test.

When I crossed the border there was nobody stopping cars and administering
tests.


>>ObWanted:  a self-serve gas station.

>Not legal in NJ,

I know NOW, that's why I wrote that.

>Maybe the gas pupmers have a strong lobby :-)

I've come to the conclusion that the entire state is run by organized crime.


-- 

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From: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org (Bob Billson)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: self-serve gas stations (was: Re: secret speed limit )
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:37:58 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Color Computer 3: Tandy's 'game' machine

~tommy@boole.att.com (Tommy Reingold) says:
[...]
>$ ObWanted:  a self-serve gas station.
>
>That's another topic.  We currently have the lowest gas prices in the
>country.  I doubt self-serve would drop the prices.  (I assume that's
>why you want it.)  I think it would merely raise the price for full
>serve, and there are times when you want full serve.

Self-service would NOT drop the price of gasoline, despite the propaganda
the oil companies spout.  My father has owned a gas station for the past 30+
years.  I having worked there a number of years back, I saw first hand how
the oil companies work things in their favor.

They claim self-service is cheaper, but you are correct we do have the (or 
almost the) lowest prices in the country.  The higher price at the full serve
pumps in self-serve states is artificially high to make folks go to the
self-serve pumps.  Why?  Most of stations are oil company run (as opposed 
to individual stations).  It is much cheaper to hire one guy to pump
the gas occasionally than to let the customers do it themselves.

Last time the oil companies tried to push [sneak would be a better word if
you heard about the behind the scenes stuff that went on with our well paid
off^H^H^Hfor "representatives" in Trenton] self-serve thorough, they really
thought they would get it.  (Notice how many self-serve type pumps suddenly
appeared at NJ gas stations; this was _before_ the bill was voted on, too.
That is how confident they were.)

Eventually the oil companies will probably get self-serve in NJ.  They have
time and money on their side.  Expect to see it tried again in a few years.
Folks who have been brainwashed by self-serve in other states will think it
is "a good idea" because of promised lower prices.  Funny thing is that in
self-serve states the self-serve pump price is pretty close to the
full serve price in NJ.  If self-serve is so much cheaper, why is there not
more of a difference?  Try asking that of a oil company's district rep and
see if he gives you a straight answer.
-- 
  Bob Billson, KC2WZ                          | internet: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org
  $nail:  21 Bates Way,  Westfield, NJ 07090  | uucp:     ...!uunet!kc2wz!bob

  "Professional ear piercing--while you wait!"  --sign in local jewelry store
From: wkimler@drew.drew.edu (My God!  IT Lives!!!)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: Re: self-serve gas stations (was: Re: secret speed limit )
Date: 31 Dec 92 19:32:31 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Drew University

In article <209@kc2wz.bubble.org>, bob@kc2wz.bubble.org (Bob Billson) writes:
> ~tommy@boole.att.com (Tommy Reingold) says:
> [...]
>>$ ObWanted:  a self-serve gas station.
>>
>>That's another topic.  We currently have the lowest gas prices in the
>>country.  I doubt self-serve would drop the prices.  (I assume that's
>>why you want it.)  I think it would merely raise the price for full
>>serve, and there are times when you want full serve.
> 
> Self-service would NOT drop the price of gasoline, despite the propaganda
> the oil companies spout.  My father has owned a gas station for the past 30+
> years.  I having worked there a number of years back, I saw first hand how
> the oil companies work things in their favor.
> 
Just to jump in on this topic,
	
	I assume that gas stations have to pay insurance on their property.
Wouldn't the insurance rates be higher for a self-serve station with any
Tom, Dick of Martha serving their own gas than for a full-service station
with "trained professionals" pumping away?

	This would seem to explain why full-service could be cheaper.

> -- 
>   Bob Billson, KC2WZ                          | internet: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org
>   $nail:  21 Bates Way,  Westfield, NJ 07090  | uucp:     ...!uunet!kc2wz!bob
> 
>   "Professional ear piercing--while you wait!"  --sign in local jewelry store


	-billy clyde
	wkimler@drew.drew.edu
From: pechter@ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Pechter)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: Wanted - someone to hold my second MX record
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:06:06 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp.,Information Services

I'm looking for someone to hold my second MX record for my home machine.
The primary will probably be on ocpt.ccur.com.  I'm looking for someone 
willing to hold the second one.


Bill
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Bill Pechter, N2RDI           | The postman always pings twice.
        Concurrent Computer Corp.     | pechter@ocpt.ccur.com
        2 Crescent Place, Oceanport, NJ 07757 - Tel:908-870-4780
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: Unposted speed limits (was Re: Witnesses to car accident
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:50:39 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>So far, most places that I've been in NJ don't bother to pose the *maximum*
>speed -- or street/road names, for that matter.

Most states have "default" limits that are in effect unless otherwise posted.
I believe in NJ those limits are 35 MPH "in towns" and 50 MPH "between towns"
(I don't recall the exact wording, but that is the gist of it). If you are
a NJ resident, you should have read that when you took your NJ written test.

>ObWanted:  a self-serve gas station.

Not legal in NJ, although it gets debated every couple of years. Maybe the
gas pupmers have a strong lobby :-)

Bill Hery
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From: mwu@tan.Princeton.EDU (Minchun Wu)
Newsgroups: princeton.wanted,princeton.forsale,nj.wanted,nj.forsale
Subject: Ride needed to Boston, will share the gas and toll
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:49:59 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster


	It is boring to travel alone, I am looking for a ride to Boston.
I would like to share the gas and toll, also could share the driving.
The trip must be made around Jan. 10, but the schedule is flexible. 

	Please contact me by e-mail mwu@phoenix, or less likely to get
me, phone 497-1007. 

	Happy holiday!

	--Minchun
From: Jim@bepcp.UUCP
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: Self-Service Gas
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 10:12:58 EST

Re: secret speed limit (was: Witnesses to car accident)
By: tommy #0 @boole.att.com (Tommy Reingold) USEnet      
 
> $ ObWanted:  a self-serve gas station.
> That's another topic.  We currently have the lowest gas prices in the
> country.  I doubt self-serve would drop the prices.  (I assume that's
> why you want it.)  I think it would merely raise the price for full
> serve, and there are times when you want full serve.

The real objection to self-service comes from the independent station owners.
They feel that if the major franchise stations are allowed to have
self-service lanes, the big companies who own them will drop prices FURTHER
and drive the independents out of business.  
 
- Jim

The views expressed are the author's only,          email   : @bowker.com
and not those of Reed Reference Publishing, Inc.          ...!uupsi!bepcp
                                                     FidoNet : 1:2605/705

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From: marcus@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (stephen.m.marcus)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted,nj.general
Subject: For Rent: Victorian house in Red Bank
Keywords: house for rent
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:35:38 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T



For Rent: Victorian House in Red Bank

Wrap-around front porch; rear deck; 4 bedrooms, 1 1/2 baths;
Lovely section of town: walk to shopping, concerts, park, etc.;
5 min drive to Pkwy Exit 109; $1100/month;

Call Tim or Ellen  842-9030
or email to:  timzebo@cc.bellcore.com
From: newark@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (antonio.cruz)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: WANTED: Stove, bedroom
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:52:34 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

STOVE NEEDED
BEDROOM SET NEEDED

Need a stove and bedroom set.
Call and describe what you have.

Call
Stan 378-5849



THIS IS A POST FOR MY FRIEND.
++++
TONY
++++
ajc@hlwpd.att.com
From: stevez@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (steven.a.zubatkin)
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
Subject: Re: secret speed limit (was: Witnesses to car accident)
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:45:40 GMT
Organization: AT&T

> That's another topic.  We currently have the lowest gas prices in the
> country.  

The three primary reasons we have cheap gasoline prices are (in order
of importance) are low taxes, low taxes, and, finally, low taxes.  I
know, you're laughing now; after all, this is NJ, right?  Well, I'm
talking _gasoline_ and sales taxes now, and IT IS TRUE; NJ has close
to the LOWEST combined state taxes on gasoline in the country.

Another less important (and unconfirmed) reason is our proximaty (sp?)
to several large refineries.

>I doubt self-serve would drop the prices.  (I assume that's
> why you want it.)  I think it would merely raise the price for full
> serve, and there are times when you want full serve.

This sounds just like the argument that the NJ Gasoline Dealers Association
spues forth regularly.  According the experiences in other states,
this is just not true; lower costs yields lower prices.  Our prices
are lower because of lower taxes (see above).

Oh, you forget one argument, the SAFETY FACTOR.  That's
right, they claim that when folks pump their own gas, that it is
dangerous.  Of course they forget about the 49 other states who do
just fine (with a safety record comparable to ours).

I do agree that it would raise the price for full serve, and why not?
It's called paying for what you get or, getting what you pay for.

Steve Zubatkin
Morristown, NJ
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
From: jbs@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.b.skiendziel)
Subject: Re: Witnesses to car accident
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:50:09 GMT
Summary: fault

In article <tommy.724732896@hilbert>, tommy@hilbert.att.com (Tom Reingold) writes:
> tld@moon.base.bellcore.com (Terry Davidson) writes:
> 
> $ I was involved in an accident on Washington Road, Piscataway,
> $ just south of the Shoprite shopping center, and need any 
> $ one who witnessed the accident to get in touch with me. 
> 
> $ I was driving a black 1981 Ford stepside pickup southbound, following
> $ a small beige sedan.  The sedan slowed down abruptly to turn left
> $ into the dairy; and I was not able to stop in time to avoid
> $ hitting her. 
> 
> Why were you not able to stop?  Were you following too closely?  If he
> was directly in front of you before he slowed down, it was your fault.
> -- 
> Tom Reingold
> AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
> tommy@boole.att.com or att!boole!tommy



	Unless there are extraneous circumstances - The car in front
	was actually in reverse,  The car in front suddenly had a
	major catastrophic break down that cause it to dead stop (as
	a "unatural fashion),   IT WILL BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE to - prove
	the car in front was at all at fault.  In 99% of the cases, as
	Tom brought up, it comes down to that the car in back could not
	stop in time due to a combination of the following.

		Following to close
		Tailgating - the extreme of the first
		Mechanical inadequency - bad brakes or tires
		And the old - Just not paying atention

	If the driver of the car in back could disprove the above
	and have a plethora of witnesses proving the driver in front
	did something totally and I mean totally stupid, I'm sorry
	to say the driver in back doesn't stand a chance.


	By the way did I say this only my opinion and not
	my employers.  And my opinions are just that, they
	are not by any means making any legal precedent and
	may not even be based on fact.
Newsgroups: nj.wanted
From: yavo@sdosrv1.gvl.unisys.com (Steve Yavorski)
Subject: Re: Unposted speed limits (was Re: Witnesses to car accident
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA
Distribution: nj
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:04:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.235203.21926@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>>(I don't recall the exact wording, but that is the gist of it). If you are
>>a NJ resident, you should have read that when you took your NJ written test.
>
>When I crossed the border there was nobody stopping cars and administering
>tests.
>
I don't know where you crossed the border, but where I've crossed it,
there are signs posted that say something like this:

NJ Speed limit - Urban 25, Rural 50 - unless otherwise posted.

Steve

Stephen Yavorski			internet - yavo@ivy.paramax.com
NEXRAD Integration			phone    - (215) 443 - 7500
Paramax Systems Corporation
Ivyland, Pennsylvania
Newsgroups: nj.config,nj.general
From: newark@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (antonio.cruz)
Subject: FORSALE Auto Parts, Rims, Buick parts, old car
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:49:23 GMT
Keywords: Rim, 76 buick century, 74 buick regal, bmw engine

Here is the automotive list.

Might find some goodies.

Cleaning up the yard and garage.

	Prices are negotiable, the more you buy the more savings.

==[ Automotive ]==============================================================
4  Nissan 300ZX Turbo Silver-like Alloy Rim 5-lug pattern 15-in $30 Each
4  Pontiac TransAm Gold-like Alloy Rims 5-lug pattern 15-in	$80 For Set
3  Buick Rally Silver-like Rims 5-lug pattern 14-in		$20 Each
4  Mitsubshi Conquest TSi Alloy Rims 5-lug pattern 16-in	$120 For Set
1  GM Alternator Pre-1978 Model					$30
4  Engine belts for 1984 Buick Century 3.0L vehicle NEW		$10 For Set
1  Engine Buick 231cu V6 1975 miles=58000			$100
1  Engine BMW 318i 4 1984					$350
1  Spoiler-Front 280zx 1975					$50
1  GM Buick 350 Torque Convertor				$40


                 Call Tony at 201-623-6469 for more information.

-------
I still have buick & chevy hubcaps, radios, a Datsun 280zx fender,
more parts around. I have to look for these among the other stuff.

I have 1987 Stock Rims for a Chevy Blazer, my brother bought the
4x4 alloy ones.

A couple of GM 350 trans that I can't fix, also a 400 Turbo trans that
WORKS!


++++
TONY
++++
ajc@hlwpd.att.com
From: lliang@nuage.rutgers.edu (Li-Wen Liang)
Newsgroups: nj.market.autos
Subject: CAR FOR SALE
Keywords: 988 MERKUR SCORPIO, leather seats, power everything, 51k miles
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:19:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


*****************************************
   CAR FOR SALE -- 1988 MERKUR SCORPIO
*****************************************

Features:

5 doors
6 speakers
51k miles only
leather seats
deer alarm
central power lock
ABS
adjustable steering wheel
power windows
power sunroof/moonroof
power mirror
temperature control
on-board computer

Asking $8000 or b/o

Please contact Chen at 908-613-4597 before 12/24/92
              Liang at 908-873-2007 after  12/24/92
                    or by e-mail lliang@caip.rutgers.edu
From: eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth)
Newsgroups: nj.market.housing
Subject: Home for you and your horse
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:21:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


FOR SALE OR RENT:  Nice small-acreage horse property in New Jersey.

   Lovely 4BR, 2Bath house on 3 acres in lower-tax Holland Township.
   House is split-entry with 3BR, 2Bath, kitchen, dining, living room
   upstairs; and 1BR, family room, laundry room, and 2-car garage
   downstairs.  Nice wallpaper throughout; wood-burning stoves and
   brick hearths in living and family rooms.  Living room has bay
   window that looks out over fenced horse pasture.  Dining room has 
   attached screened deck.  House is eight years old, all electric
   with A/C, heatpump, central vac, and vinyl siding; is on a private
   drive at end of culdesac.  House is on hillside at back of property
   and has wonderful view.  Other horse-property to rear and woods on
   one side.  Grade school only 3 blocks; fire station less than 1/2
   mile; gas station, neighborhood grocery, and fast-food closeby.
   Ten minutes to I-78.  Decent commute for Bedminster, Basking
   Ridge, Somerset, etc.

   Includes 2-stall barn with tack room, feed room, electricity and
   water.  Attached to barn is large storage shed for firewood and 
   lawn tractor.  Access to riding trails, and excellent vet nearby.


      Sales price just dropped $20,000 to $220,000.  Rent for $1400
      a month.  If interested, call me at 816-995-3767(days) or
      816-566-3455(eves/wkends).



                        Susan Roth



   P.S.  Property taxes are about half what you find in much of the
         state.  Also, lower one-acre would be subdividable for a 
         separate building lot.


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From: daz@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (daniel.zuckerman)
Newsgroups: nj.market.housing
Subject: House For Sale - Kinnelon, New Jersey
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:11:36 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Lincroft, NJ

Two Bedroom Ranch for Sale, Kinnelon, New Jersey
Two baths, full cellar, 0.4 Acre, on a quiet street, beautifully landscaped.

Asking $119,900.

Contact Joseph Hartmann, 201-838-1989.

(Please do not send e-mail. I am posting this for a friend without e-mail.)
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Summary: 
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Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Lincroft, NJ
Keywords: 

House For Sale - Kinnelon, New Jersey


Two Bedroom Ranch for Sale, Kinnelon, New Jersey
Two baths, full cellar, 0.4 Acre, on a quiet street, beautifully landscaped.

Asking $119,900.

Contact Joseph Hartmann, 201-838-1989.

(Please do not send e-mail. I am posting this for a friend without e-mail.)
Newsgroups: nj.market.housing,nj.forsale,nj.general,princeton.forsale,princeton.general,princeton.grad,princeton.wanted