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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 12:47:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.061244.6366@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> derek@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Dariusz Bolski) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.013849.7386@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug24.184027.28027@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>>>After reading and posting to c.s.a.advocacy for over a year now, I
>>>am somewhat bothered by the fact that I don't have a clue as to what
>>>anyone looks or sounds like.  Would anyone be interested in uploading
>>>an IFF picture of themselves and possibly an IFF sound-byte?  If this
>>>sounds too goofy, sorry, but I'm not overly fond of not knowing what
>>>a person looks like and I'm afraid that my imagination would not do
>>>many of you justice.  :-)

[deleted]

>How about puting it to some ftp site? (I just digitized today one
>photo of myself for the multimedia presentation :-)

Yeah, but which one?  Maybe Ohio state, Dariusz?
:)

>>>Skip Sauls
>>Colin Adams       Honours Student - James Cook University of North Queensland
>Dariusz Bolski
>e-mail: derek@cgrg.ohio-state.edu  derek@osc.edu
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From: bo24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Berend Ozceri)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: FTP help please...
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:22:15 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hello! 

Although I have been an Amiga user for three years, I am new to the
communications and networks world. I see a lot oh FTP sites cited, but I
don't know how to access them. When I "ftp" to them, they ask for a
login and password which I don't have. How am I to subscribe to these
places?

(I am ftp'ing from a UNIX DECstation at Carnegie Mellon University's
computer network)

Please help me.

(E-Mail: bo24+@andrew.cmu.edu)

-Berend
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From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:46:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.013749.13608@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:

>and to accuse them of LIES is a big exaggeration.  What you can accuse them of
>is not telling the whole truth - there is a new version of Links for [34]86's
>that looks better than the Amiga version when it's running on a (supported)
>SVGA card.  Just which particular SVGA cards does it support, by the way?  You
>do realise that there's no standard, don't you?

I believe it supports VESA.  It comes with a large number of VESA
drivers, or you can use your own if you have one (I think).

Paul
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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:59:46 GMT

>I have seen LINKS on *both* a SVGA PC-machine and an Amiga(3000).
>That is, I have seen it in action, on screen, *not* in magazine
>screen-shots.
>
>Saying that the Amiga version isnt much better than games on the C64,
>well, *THAT* is BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT and BULLSHIT AGAIN!!!!!!

	True. 

>It looks very good on the PC with SVGA, and it also looks very good on
>the Amiga.

	Are you sure you saw Links 386 Pro?  It blows away both the Amiga 
    version of Links and the original Links on the PC.  The only problem
    with it, is that it doesn't run under OS2.

							G.Greene


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From: dtiberio@libws4.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:34:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.200109.11540@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.210032.19728@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
>>REAL bus Zorro III and PCMIA have REAL crazy price tag. My prediction..
>>A600 will be big flop in America because people NOT REAL stupid.
>
>Compared to you, the stupidest person that I've ever met looks like a 
>genius.  You are a perfect example of what has happened to the American
>educational system due to a Democratic Congress.  
>
>Skip Sauls
>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

	After that last statement, I thought it was another Mar Barrett
posting...another interesting and well thought out conclusion. The
American educatioal system did not die overnight, nor was it destroyed
by Congress. You see, idiots have been alive for all of time. Then they
get hired as teachers or raise kids who also become idiots. I would see
a more appropriate blame to something like television, radio, GOPAC :),
and of course capitalism, where any product is great as long as it is
advertised properly. People still buy Macs...see my point?


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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:28:31 GMT
X-Posted-From: connection.prospect.com
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>
>> The point, please?  All PC operating systems are the same way.
>
>That's why every PC application comes with a bunch of drivers and config
>files? The standard drivers that come with DOS are virtually useless.
>

What are you saying, Peter, that the OS should come with drivers for every
piece of hardware ever made?

Every PC application comes with a bunch of drivers?  What bullsh*t!

What's wrong with an application having a configuration file?

>
>Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
>
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From: @moci.uucp
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Organization: ICOM, Inc., West Allis, WI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 02:00:06 GMT
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peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
: In article <Yk5Ar*LT0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
: > In article <1992Aug22.042013.16635@kas.helios.mn.org>, Rob Healey writes:
: > > 	The 3000T '040 ad in byte this month was sad because it showed
: > > 	how far behind the times Amiga really is. On one page you
: > > 	had the 3000T '040 for $5998.00. 5 pages later you have a DELL
: > > 	33Mhz 486 system that can do more for $2699.00. It's sad really
: 
: > I think that the 040 is faster than the 486.
: 
: Only if the 486 has no external cache. The 040's main advantage is that it's
: got a lot more registers so doesn't require as much memory traffic as the 486.
: 
: > What do you mean by "do more?"
: 
: I would assume "more and cheaper hardware and software options". Commodore has
: never recovered from the Tramiell mess. The computer world would be much better
: off if he'd never gotten involved. Him and Bill "Multitasking in under 1M is
: impossible" Gates.
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But then again "do more" might mean more DOS or Windows programs. In which case
"do more" really means "do more of less" if it's a 486DX or "do more of much
less" if it's a 486SUX. :^)  
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From: rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Perot
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:32:58 GMT
Organization: Rob's home system, Hopkins, MN

In article <1992Aug29.223344.2265@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
=Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
=" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
=        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech

	Should read:

"BERLIN WALL FALLS,
 SOVIET UNION BREAKS UP,
 CHINA STILL THE SAME AS ALWAYS,
 BUSH TAKES FULL CREDIT FOR ALL OF IT!"

	Like the decay of the respective societys had/have nothing to
	do with it...
From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Zorro III cards?
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:26:27 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University

In article <1992Aug26.025236.2140@grebyn.com> richk@grebyn.com
(Richard Krehbiel) writes:

>There are Zorro III cards available?  What are they?

 o Ameristar 1600GX
 o DMI Vivid 24

Mark

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From: mac9167@tamsun.tamu.edu (Surfman)
Subject: Re: let's help him ( about -MB- )
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:55:55 GMT


>   Before you get too excited, let my tell you that I will still have access
>to an A3000.  I am selling the A500 so that I can get into digital packet
>radio.  I have been wanting to get back into HAM radio, as I haven't had time
>to keep my Morse code skills up since high school.  I also want to get into
>the new computer-related aspecs of HAM radio, which require an expensive
>digital transiever and a device called a TNC.
>---
>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>--------------------------------------------------
>     "Beware the ides of September..."


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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  MPEG, Photo CD
Distribution: world
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:42:38 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <kdarling.714776644@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes:
>Roger Earl writes:
>>> The Kodak PCD-270 is MSRP $400.  Its features include auto-sequencing
>>
>>Hmm, this is a bit off from a claim I got from a Kodak rep in the spring
>>about the players being released at $200 Canadian.  
>
>Hi Rog.  Long time no see!  Yeah, the actual street prices will probably
>be _far_ lower than the MSRPS.  Which reminds me.  I had written offhand:
>
>>> The Kodak PCD-270 is MSRP $400.  [...]
>>> The Kodak PCD-870 I believe will be MSRP ~$575 or so.  [...]
>>> The Kodak PCD-5870 will be available later this year.  It has a five-disc
>>> carousel and onscreen display of the image number.  Price?  Dunno. ~$800?
>
>Since then, I looked up my notes. Two months ago, Kodak posted these prices:
>
> PCD-270  MSRP $450
> PCD-870  MSRP $549
> PCD-5870 MSRP $649
>
>>So far, what I've seen from Kodak is that the Photo-CD format is really
>>only being pushed towards high-end computer graphics users (their display
>>
>I hear from users that the highest resolution can take a heckuva long time
>to decode... but that the lower ones are pretty fast.
>
>I think we computer users naturally think most about the computer scan use
>of Photo CD, and forget about the normal 35mm consumer user.  Kodak says
>they plan a big push this fall (October) to "normal" people.

First they have to get film processors to buy the $150000 machine to transfer
from 35mm to Photo-CD.  I imagine that large regional film processors will
buy in, if they think the market is there.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:00:11 EDT
From: <EXG106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: commodore support
Distribution: usa

I have a friend who has an A3000.  Well, about 2 months after he bought it, it
broke! (something with the chip controlling the mouse????)  He sent to to his
 local dealer to get it fixed.  It seems that the big C= has some policy that
 if a computer is under warranty and breaks, they just change the entire mother
board.  Unfortunately, this occured durring the famed power-up program, during
 which A3000's were selling wonderfully, and so, A3000 motherboards were in
severe back-order.  My friend (after about a month of his computer being the
 "shop") called up the dealer to ask if they had received a shipment of motherb
oards yet.  They told him that they had not and  that if he wanted to know when
a new shipment would arrive, he should call Commodore to ask how far backed up
they are.  He did call up Commodore, and they flat out told him that they don't
 know.  They were as I understand very rude and no help whatsoever.

Great support!
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From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. AmigaOS
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 07:19:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.042231.395@endicor.com> tsarna@endicor.com (Ty Sarna) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.033347.17131@marlin.jcu.edu.au> cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug29.003212.13913@endicor.com> tsarna@endicor.com (Ty Sarna) writes:
>> The Amiga is lacking in IPC mechanisms.  It doesn't have enough
>
>Agreed, though as I pointed out, you CAN roll your own. Wether that's
>good or bad dep[ends on what you want to do.
>
>> support for multi-threaded applications, which is probably why we
>> haven't seen too many of them.
>
>Actually, I think the Amiga is superb for multithreading, since shared
>code and memory are so easy (the only choice, really). 

Depends on your programming style.  I prefer a message passing
aprroach to the multual exclusion problems you will run into, while
the Amiga uses semaphores, hence my complaints with IPC.   It would
be nice to have multicasting/broadcasting. 

But most of my multithreading experience is on transputers, which 
offer both approaches.

I also don't think the Amiga has very good process control for a system
which was designed to be multitasking.   There isn't a large
or capable enough set of system calls.  Sure, it's possible to do
most things, but some simple things require more code than they
would if they were in the OS.

>Ty Sarna				           tsarna@endicor.com

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From: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 21:18:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.225903.5794@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>However, the fact is that this isn't being used as a processor
>upgrade, as in the 2000/3000.  It's also not being used as a graphics
>upgrade, as the LocalBus.  It's being used as a bus.  They're putting
>cards into this processor slot which on either of the above types of
>systems would have gone into a real bus and therefore have access to
>bus-mastering, DMA, and more importantly, you're not limited to ONE.

How many lies can you put into one posting?? Developer said 030/040
and video upgrade can be made CHEAP and easy for Falcon.  WHERE is
cheap boards and cards for A3000 and A600? People want cheap hardware
not cheap vapor!
From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: THIS IS THE PLAN: IFF Database of .advocacy folks (!)
Date: 30 Aug 1992 15:24:40 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>>Although this is in theory a grand idea...but I guess not all of .advocacy 
>>readers/posters are Amigans.  Say, JERRY, what do YOU think?

>I don't really care.  I haven't been following this thread.  What's the deal
>here?  Do people want to look their opponents straight in the eye while they
>type their articles?

No, but I bet they want to hang the other person's picture on the wall and
put a crosshair between the eyes for darting practice.  ;-)

- Nan
From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 04:19:17 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Aug25.153014.9823@ra.msstate.edu>

In article <1992Aug25.153014.9823@ra.msstate.edu>
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:

|In article <64630@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
|>[...]
|>Rather than IFF pix, might I suggest "faces" format?
|
|[...]
|
|Sounds good.  Can you go in reverse?  That is, could someone send the
|cataloger an IFF pic and have it translated into faces format?  I've 
|been able to display NetTrek and other UNIX bitmaps on the Amiga, but
|don't know if faces is similar.  In any case, it should be more flexible
|than IFF since not every .advocacy reader has an Amiga.
|[...]

I'd start with PBMplus' ilbmtoppm and create a "faces" format file from
that, with the bio info added manually at the beginning; should be really
straightforward and no more than one spare evening's work.

As I understand it, the whole point of the Usenix "facesaver" project (and
the "faces" format files) was to permit a mailreader/newsreader to display
the picture of the email's/article's author as one is reading the article.

And if one is on the Internet, the mail-/news-reader program could simply
snarf the picture directly from ftp.uu.net as one is reading the item and
put up the picture "nearly instantaneously".  Given that "faces" files are
typically only 12Kbytes or so, it'd take only, say, 0.10 seconds to grab
the file from UUNET and another 0.10 seconds or so to put it up in a corner
of one's screen.

The largest amount of time I spent doing the Amiga version (of the "faces"
viewer) was experimenting with gray-scale dithering techniques to accomodate
the 8-bit-planes of a "faces" file.  Another major portion was correcting
for the non-square pixels on the Amiga; the precise ratio determined by yet
another program whose display I simply measured off the CRT! :-)

I strongly urge use of the "faces" format.

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com ]
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Zorro III cards? (was: 80,000,000 pc's)
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:43:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.141138.25963@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
>>
>>EISA is the problem, because put a single ISA card on
>>that bus and you've just reduced EISA to ISA.
>>
>
>Is this true?  Could someone who knows confirm this?  I've only seen this
>claim in c.s.a.a., and I get the feeling that it's nonsense.
>
>>

Well I can't be sure if it's always true. It was true in the case of an
HP 386 tower EISA system which a dealer friend of mine was trying to
configure. It may be that it depends of the type of ISA card.

One other note is that on 2 occasions, one with an HP Vectra and the other 
a Compaq EISA system, it was impossible to configure the system along
with a SoundBlasterPro.

I realize I haven't provided details, as much of this goes back a long 
time with my friend rather annoyed at the whole ISA/EISA situation. In
any case I have no doubt that putting certain cards in an EISA system 
does reduce the performance.

Philip
From: Chris_Millar@lppl.mi.org (Chris Millar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Distribution: world
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:36:08 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

> And if you don't mind would you PLEASE quote.
I'd like to, but my term program doesn't access the full ANSI command set -
and the bbs requires that- it's a pain in the butt, but bear with me for a
few days.  
The PDS IS a general purpose slot - which I find much more desirable - it
has full bus access regardless, and there are several processor upgrades
(40 and 50Mhz 030, and 040) in the works.


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:33:26 GMT

Chris_Millar@lppl.mi.org (Chris Millar) writes:
: Yeah....lot's of Amiga software on PCMCIA cards, huh?  Maybe if they had a
: PDS they could add PC emulation and run something.  Oh, Falcon was released
: ion Germany last Friday - sold for Dm 1398 and 3198.................

If you'd keep up on your information, you'd find out that it has
something I'll refer to as a "trapdoor" underneath, just like the 500
has.  And anyone can tell you a "pc emulation" board existed for the
500's.  The 600, unlike the Falcon, has BOTH.

Feel better?

Greg

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