HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran)
Subject: Re: kaaNi nilam (BHARATIYAR)
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:51:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.143026.28533@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> nas_ng@geds01.jsc.nasa.gov. (Naga Ganesan) writes:
[Much deleted]
>                                  ci. cuppiramaNiya paarati.
>
>

I am puzzled about why some one would write Bharati's name as above, and not
as Subramanya Bharati.  It is true that the Tamil alphabet does not distinguish
between say Pa and Ba, but Tamil speakers certainly do (unlike say Bengali
speakers who have difficulty saying "V" -- I have a Bengali student who
talks about "debices" when he means "devices").  Equally validly, one could
write say a name like Patel as "Badel."  It seems an overdoing of Senthamizh
to mispronounce and miswrite peoples' names as above.  (I don't mean it as
a flame, but I am quite curious as to why people think the name should be
written as above in Tamil.)

As far as I know Bharati did not pronounce his name as "ci.
cuppiramaNiya paarati."  Of course it is possible that some Tamilian
named his child "Paarati" in honor of "Bharati," since he
mispronounced the name as "Paarati", having seen it written only in
Tamil.  In that case, we should perhaps write the child's name as
"Paarati," since that was the name the father gave the child.  But in
the case of the poet, I think his name should be written as "Subramanya
Bharati" when we write it in English.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: asrini@sanjuan (Anand Srinivasan)
Subject: S Ve Shekar Jokes...
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, CANADA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 02:04:29 GMT

Mahabharadatil Mangatha:

Actors in the Scene : Scientist's Brother, S.Ve Shekar

SB's brother is a scientist, SB is a film producer, and
SV is a story writer.

SB :  Engannan oru periya vinghyani, manushangalai mirugamai
	mathugira marundellam kandu pidipaar, aana athukku
	maathu marundu mattum kandae pidikamattAr.

SV :  yaen?

SB : Athu avarukku theriyadhu!
.
.
.

SV and SB travel ahead of time and reach some place in future (23rd century
or sometime like that)

SV : enna sir idhu, periya periya kattadama irukku... endha ooru
	ithu?

Some Person : Neenga vandu irukkira idam "West Mambalam".

SV : Mambalama? namba mudiyalaiye! ah! idhu enna ivaluvu periya
	prani?

SP : kOsu

SV : ivvalavu periya kOsuva? appa ithu west mambalam thaan.

SP : itha mattum engalala kattu paduthave mudiyalai.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara)
Subject: Re: naangam tamizh ( technical Tamizh)
Keywords: naangaam tamizh, technical Tamizh
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:21:31 GMT




In article <Bs48sx.L28@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C
.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) writes:
>In article <BruJFI.E3E@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca writes:
>> In article <1992Jul22.004050.24006@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ssankara@magnu
s.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara) writes:
>>
>> >     (ii) Technical terms cannot be translated into Indian languages.
>>
>
>  anbudan
>
>  Selva Selvakumar
>
>
     I agree with what you say.

     The above statement was not mine.  I just quoted the general opinion and
then expressed my views against it.  I know it is only an 'editing' mistake.  
But those who have not read my posting will be misled.

Thanks,

S. Sankarapandi

ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Konjam Siriungal...
Reply-To: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:07:41 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu (m vishnu)
Subject: "kidappil pOduthal" A new phrase ?
Originator: mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:08:07 GMT


"kidappil pOduthal"

The above expression is being increasingly used in the TN political magazines 
(eg. Nakkeeran, caaNakkiyan, tharaasu, etc) with the meaning of 'setting aside'.

I have not seen this expression before and seems to be quite a new coinage. 

The word 'kida' (sit idle, sleep, &c) is used in commonly in TE.  As
Dr. K. Srinivasan had once pointed out, it is also used in one of the Azvaar's
work. 

Meenan Vishnu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: nasokan@yoho.uwaterloo.ca (Asokan)
Subject: Re: STOP TE NEWS
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:53:59 GMT

This round of "stop LTTE propaganda" and "I told you
LTTE would take over SCT" whinings is an exercise
in hypocrisy and knee-jerk patriotic correcness.

First off, it would be a good thing if everyone decides
to keep all politics off SCT.  But *all* politics should
then be excluded.  Talking about the reservation
issue in TN is politics.  Talking about brahmin-bashing
is politics.  Talking about Jayalalitha and CHO is politics.

It would be futile to say that TN is a "legal" state
in a "legal" country whereas TE is hypothetical.
Defining what is "legal" and what is not is beyond
the scope of this newsgroup.

Equally futile would be to say things like: "news reports
from genuine newspapers and news agencies are ok;  baseless
propaganda is not".  It isn't hard to legally register
a newspaper or news service in North America and dish
out LTTE or Khalistani or Indian Government or you-name-it
propaganda.  In fact, the excerpts that Meenan posted
are from a newspaper that is legally registered in
Canada.  The difference between "baseless propaganda"
and "genuine news reports" is blurry.  Welcome to America.

The bottomline is it is awfully hard to regulate this
sort of a thing when you begin to make exceptions
that suit your palate.  To complicate things, USENET
is a form of organized anarchy.  It is pretty much
impossible to legislate who posts what as universities
around the world have been discovering lately.

There are two choices: if we want to prevent SCT
from degenerating into a flamefest, we should request
Meenan and all others not to post *anything* that
could be construed as political.  One could get
pedantic about what is political and what is not...
but the problem is a lot easier if we want to impose
a sweeping self-embargo without making exceptions.

If we want to grant special status to political news
from places and factions that happen to be in some
sense "legal" at Thu 30 Jul 1992 16:53:59 GMT, then
heave a big sigh.

"Urukku upadhEsam unakkaladi makaLE"

Regards,

- Asokan
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Please stop this LTTE propoganda
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:49:05 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Please stop this LTTE propaganda. Let this be a non-political and non-biased 
network

Thanks
RT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu (m vishnu)
Subject: Re: Couple of phonological queries
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:52:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.160633.22419@rice.edu> dorai@cs.rice.edu (Dorai Sitaram) writes:
>1. Is there a minimal pair of Tamil words that are distinguished
>solely by the phonemes /l./ and /l_/?  (/l./ as in /el./ = "sesame";
>/l_/ as in /Tamil_/.  I'm using Tamil Lexicon: I guess in Adami these
>would be /L/ and /zh/ respectively.)  Are there lots such?

Yes, there are:
vaaL  (sword)  vaaz (live!)
aLi   (give)   azi  (destroy)
maLi  (shave)  mazi (??)
aaL   (man)    aaz  (rule)

and many more.
>
>2. Is it right to treat the a'ytam (/h_/, or the three dots) as a sort
>of glottal stop?  What is the corresponding letter (if any) in
>Sanskrit?

Yes, I think it is proper to treat it as a glottal stop.  The equivalent 
in Sanskrit is the two vertical dots ':' (I think it is called 'visarga').

Although ':' used mostly at the end of a word, there are instances where 
it is also used in the middle.

Meenan Vishnu
 
>
>Nanri.
>
>--d
>-- 
>
>dorai@titan.rice.edu   !    It may be that the gulfs will wash us down;
>dorai@owlnet.rice.edu  !      it may be we shall touch the Happy Isles.
From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: computer network, newsgroup in Tamil
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:11:21 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

Corrected posting:

Computer network = kaNivalai, kaNeeNari (this is a tongue twister)
newsgroup = minilmanRam, minnavai, minaRangu

Out of these I like 'kaNivalai' and 'minnavai' due to their simplicity.

Example:
nam minnavaiai minna vaippOm.

kaNivalai sounds like 'kaNigalai' which is a flower (araLi?) I think.

Comments welcome

K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
From: TXK9@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Hockey score
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:07:18 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Does any one know the Germany vs India hockey score of the game
played yesterday? I am not getting the soc.cul.Indian for the
past two days
Kesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: sxksma@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.X. Kumar )
Subject: S.V.Shekar jokes
Originator: sxksma@ultb
Keywords: jokes, SVShekar
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:24:38 GMT


Some more S.V. Shekar jokes:
Play: "mahaabaarathaththil maNngaaththa"
SVS - writer(Ekalaivan); S =sundaa-- film producer (Dharmaraajan)

S   : Edaavadu kadhai irundaa sollenya
SVS : 'oru Urle oru raaja irundaaru....'
S   : nallaa ille..
SVS : vErE kdhai sollattumaa?
S   : sari sollu.
SVS : vere Urle, vere oru raaja irundaaru..
S   : pramaadamaana kadhaiyaa..
SVS : (murmurs) enakku ippadi oru producer!
****
S   : yOv, nallaa award vaaNGara maadhiri kadhai sollaiyaa.
SVS : ippadiththaan pOnavaatti sonnINGa; mahabaratham kadhai
       soNnNneNn; aaNna budget'le jaasthi panam illai'NnINnga;
       sari'NnNnu heroine dress'ai koRaichchen;
       appavum paththadu'NnNnINGa;gouravargal 100 pErla irundu
       10 pEra koRaichchen; censor board'lE kizhi, kizhi'NnNnu
       kizhichchuputtaanga!
S   :  adhellaam vEndaNnyaa.  nallaa pudhu maadiriyaa solluyaa.
SVS :  vENumNna pancha thandiraththilirundu oru thandiraththai
        uruviduvOmaa?  adhila thaan innum yaarum kai vaikkalai!
        " oru maan vayasukku vandhuvittadhu" idhu thaan title.
       kaattule irundhu oru maan thappi Odiduthu.  adhai oru
       karadi kaRppazhichiduthu.  andha maan azhudhukinE kOrttukku
       pOvudhu! yaanai dhan judge! rendu fight, naalu dance ellam
       irukku.  kadhaiyai namma karumaari kandasaamiye okay 
       pannittaaru!
***
their heroine "champa devi" enters; Sunda introduces her to his
wife(W).
S   : Idhu yaar theriyumillE? 
W    : theriyaama enna?  namma veettule velai senjukkitu irunda
       karuppaayi(?) thaane?
CD  :  ayyayO.. neeNGa confuse pannikittINGa...
W   : idho paaramma, enga vIttu Iya chombai eduththukitu pOyitte.
      konjam adhai thiruppi koduthudumma. adhu en maamiyaar 
      enakku koduthathu.
SVS(to CD) :
     Oho.. adhaithaan 'enakku mihavum pidiththa paaththiram'NnNnu
     nInga pEttila sonneengala?
****
Sundha's father is a "scientist".  Sundha is describing about his
fathers activities.
S   : engappaa oru scientist.  enga veettilEyE oru laboratory 
      vachchukittu irukkaaru.
SVS : (thinking S meant lavatory) adhu enna sir pramaadham, enga
      veettilEyum thaan irukku.
S   : laboratory?
SVS : Oh, laboratory'yaa.  adhu illai.
S   : Ah! adhu enga veettilE thanyaa irrukum.
SVS : appO "adhu" unga veettilE illaiyaa? "adhu" thaan sir ellar
      veettilEyum irukkaNum! 
*****
Sundha's father(F) enters:
S   : ennappa, pudhusaa enna kandupidichirukkEnga?
F   : oru maathirai kandupidichirukkEn.  sappittaa, pinnala poyiduvOm.
SVS : Pinnaala pOnaa sovuthule muttikka maattOm?
F   : adahi sollaleppaa, 'we go back in time'nnu sonnEn!
****

More later!
Kumar.
From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: News: Discussion = 3: 30 Do we want that?
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:24:31 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

Are 3 news posting worth 30 discussions??

I appreciate mvishnu for not trying to express his personal views on
the news reports he copied from the quoted source.

Everything we saw in these 3 postings are reported in Indian
Newspapers. BBC News, if one wants to blame them as propaganda
source. They also state the 'source' of news just as mvishnu did.
They usually say, 'SL Govt reports say ....., LTTE reports say.....
in the BBC News.

Those who want to quit because 3 out of 400 is not to their taste, are like
some one who quits reading all newspapers, beacuse there was one
paragraph was not to his taste. If vast majority is not to ones
taste it is different matter. They are basically insulting all the
other posters by posting about their quitting.

Those who are so upset, why not start talking on a more pleasant
subject?  Why not start contributing positively?
Please end this discussion. If you do not want to read 3 or 4
postings just press 'n'. Do not make an issue out of it.
This discussion is more annoying than the 3 postings.
Anybody who reads s.c.i should know how.

K. Srinivasan   srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: asrini@sanjuan (Anand Srinivasan)
Subject: Movie Dialogue-Jokes
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, CANADA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:07:18 GMT


Movie : Thillu Mullu ...

Thenga Srinivasan (TS) interviews a person (PS)...

TS : Unga Paer enna?

PS : En paer Laxminarayanan, aana friends shorta "Lucky"nnu kupuduvanga....

TS : en paer "Pakkiriswamy Pillai", appa enna "Pakki"nnu kupuduvangala?

TS : Madrasla irukkira naalu mukyamana college paergala sollunga?

PS : Queen Maris, Stella Maris, Ethiraj, SIET

TS : neenga cigarette pidipingala?

PS : palakam illai sir.

TS : palakam illaya? ungalukku indha "zha-naa" ve varaadha? appo naan onnu
	solraen, adha thiruppi sollunga... 
	"Oru kattu Suzhllila oru suzhlli kona suzhlli"

PS : Vendanga risk-ku
.
.
.

TS interviews RajiniKanth (RK).

TS : Neenga aen meesa vechirukeenga?

RK : Manushangalukku meesai romba romba mukkiyam sir. 
	Va Vu Cee, T K See, Ma PO Sii, evangalai naadu
	maranduralaam, aana avanga meesaya yaaralum 
	marakka mudiyathu...

.
.
.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: mouli@ssd.intel.com (Chandramouli Narayanan - temp)
Subject: Re: Kannadasan's songs
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:54:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.034330.14572@reed.edu> vganesan@reed.edu (The Phoenix) writes:
>I have two queries regarding Kannadasan's lyrics.
>
>Most of us have heard:
>
>	"kalangalil Aval Vasantham
>	kalaigalile Aval Oviyum
>	..............
>Now one of my friends claimed that Kannadasan just used a
>portion from the gita for this song.
>

Is it true that Kannadasan has borrowed quite extensively
from Pattinathar for some of his philosophical songs?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: nasokan@yoho.uwaterloo.ca (Asokan)
Subject: Re: STOP TE NEWS
Followup-To: none
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:46:10 GMT

In article <Bs82Mo.Enx@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) writes:
[...]
>     I am quite puzzled ! Are you saying we should not read newspaper
>     at all ?! Are these not intrinsic difficulties in living in these
[...]
>     Are you not implying it is a useless to read newspapers ? I share
>     your concern in the difficulty of finding the truth but your view
>     appears rather extreme. ( no offence or condescension meant) 
[...similar comments deleted...]

Aiya, You are putting words in my mouth!

Perhaps I wasn't clear.  Let me try again:

The points I was trying to make are:

o To chastise Meenan for posting LTTE propaganda or TE
  news (depending on your point of view) while willing to
  tolerate other forms of news/political analyses is
  hypocritical.
o You suggested that we should avoid propganda, but allow
  "facts" and "events".  To which I replied that using
  this as the criterion is impossible because it is
  pretty hard to distinguish between "propaganda" and "facts".

I didn't suggest that we should therefore banish news from
the face of the earth.  I suggested precisely the opposite:
that news *of all sorts* should be moved to the appropriate
arenas like SCI and SCSL that have a very wide mandate.

To borrow your analogy: no, of course I am not suggesting
that one should not read newspapers (I wish you gave me
more credit than that :-).  Instead, I am suggesting
that news items etc. be limited to newspapers (e.g: SCI, SCSL)
where there will be no restrictions on any views.  Where
paranoid valaignars wouldn't whine about what they see
as propaganda because the mandate of those arenas is
all encompassing. (They may whine anyway..but that is besides
the point!)

On the other hand, I don't want to read news or political
views of any sort in a technical journal.  I have found
the discussions on ACT and SCT valuable.  I don't want
to see SCT degenerate into mudslinging.  That is why
I think we should treat SCT like a technical journal
and not like a newspaper.

I wish I were more knowledgeable in kuRaL.  I am sure
vaLLuvar said something about "idanaRidhal" that
pithily conveys what I am trying to say here.

Regards,

- Asokan

PS: Now we are talking about the functinality of a specialized
    newsgroup.  i.e. this is not special to SCT.  Therefore, I
    would like to move the discussion elsewhere.  Since I can't
    think of the appropriate newsgroup off hand, I would take
	it to e-mail (assuming Dr Selvakumar doesn't mind).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: sct & politics
Reply-To: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:03:31 GMT

I preferred not to followup to anyone's postings due to the fact I my
be branded as leading the "gang" or whatever.

In software or any other field, they call it "faulty design". That IMO
is what happened here. You are free to interpret it however you like.
Just 3 weeks after the newgroup message came out from David Lawrence,
I have only one thing to say to the people who just laughed at(or
ridiculed) my stand reg SCT, It was not me who started the opposition
to the LTTE stuff.

The posters here supporting posting of such information assume that
the this medium was formed for that purpose too. Nope, it wasn't projected
that way during the discussion phase. The Srilankan problem is too
sensitive for a medium like Usenet and hence I and many others were
opposed to its presence as well as the politics in TN in the charter.
Unfortunately people found the opposition blind when they themselves
had lot to learn about Usenet.

I still believe that the name hardly fits the description expected of
the newsgroup for most people. Luckily for Usenet, there are ways
for renaming etc. I can hardly convince most people about language or
literature being a part of the name but IMO it is good for eliminating
most of the trouble spots of the charter. And moderation is a whole
different story. No moderator will be able to reject any article based
on the present charter. 

Just my $0.02.

Cheers,
Sridhar.
From: asrini@sanjuan (Anand Srinivasan)
Subject: Movie Dialogue-Jokes...
Followup-To: soc.culture.tamil
Keywords: Thillu Mullu, Dialogue, Jokes
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, CANADA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:01:36 GMT


Movie : Thillu Mullu ...

Thenga Srinivasan (TS) interviews a person (PS)...

TS : Unga Paer enna?

PS : En paer Laxminarayanan, aana friends shorta "Lucky"nnu kupuduvanga....

TS : en paer "Pakkiriswamy Pillai", appa enna "Pakki"nnu kupuduvangala?

TS : Madrasla irukkira naalu mukyamana college paergala sollunga?

PS : Queen Maris, Stella Maris, Ethiraj, SIET

TS : neenga cigarette pidipingala?

PS : palakam illai sir.

TS : palakam illaya? ungalukku indha "zha-naa" ve varaadha? appo naan onnu
	solraen, adha thiruppi sollunga... 
	"Oru kattu Suzhllila oru suzhlli kona suzhlli"

PS : Vendanga risk-ku
.
.
.

TS interviews RajiniKanth (RK).

TS : Neenga aen meesa vechirukeenga?

RK : Manushangalukku meesai romba romba mukkiyam sir. 
	Va Vu Cee, T K See, Ma PO Sii, evangalai naadu
	maranduralaam, aana avanga meesaya yaaralum 
	marakka mudiyathu...

.
.
.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: jost@butch.coyote.trw.com (Patrick Jost)
Subject: I Want to Learn Tamil!
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:43:43 GMT

I'm interested in learning Tamil. I have a nifty Mac font for Tamil, but
that's all.

Any help would be appreciated.


Patrick



-- 
..suenos perdidos, dolor infinito, ya sin sentido, en el triste fluir, de los
llantos sumergidos, al silencio de un grito en el vacio... (J. L. Velasquez)

              Patrick Jost/jost@coyote.trw.com/(310) 812-2759
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: speri@cactus.org (Sankarappan Periyasamy)
Subject: Re: " A PARTIAL CORRECTION"
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:52:41 GMT

In article <19381@plains.NoDak.edu> ganapath@plains.NoDak.edu (Prabhukumar Ganapathy) writes:
>Ravi V. Shankar  Writes in <1992Jul26.140858.13133@newstand.syr.edu>
>
>>pal, pallu = tooth
>
>>I just remembered this song. Here's it is :-)
>
>>aimbathilum pallu vizhum
>>ainthilum pallu vizhum
>>aanaal aimbathil pallu vizhunthaal
>>athu thirumba oru murai mulaikkaathamma
>
>>It basically makes fun of the song "aimbathilum aasai varum" from
>>"thirisoolam". It is sung to the same tune.
>   **********
>
>	(Rest of the article deleted)
>
>
>  Sorry!  You got it wrong. This song is not from THIRISOOLAM. It
>  is from some other movie (of course SIVAJI and K.R.VIJAYA starrer)
>  which was released after "thirisoolam".
>
>  I could not recollect the movie name. May be someone who remembers
>  it could post
>

The film is "Rishi moolam", of course with Nadigar Thilagam & Punnagai Arasi.

- Peri.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rshankar@top.cis.syr.edu (Ravi V. Shankar)
Subject: "Amma, Appa"-vaa, "Mummy,Daddy"-yaa? (Was Re: A boy's head ...) 
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:00:41 EDT

In article <Bs3y9I.HFy@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>Is is true that the schools also instruct the children to address their
>parents as 'Mommy' and 'Daddy' instead of 'Amma' and 'Appa' etc.?

No, that usually isn't the case. It is the parents who want their children
to call them "Mummy" and "Daddy". It seems to give them a false sense of
status elevation in society ["Naanga veetula kooda English-la thaan 
pesuvom" types]. Even some of the kids growing up in the Madras slums tend
to use "Mummy" and "Daddy" these days! I'm not joking.

>KS.
-- Ravi