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From: jlaurent@encore.com (Jim Laurent)
Subject: Quantum LPS disks discontinued?
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:00:53 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation

I was just getting ready to buy a 105 MB disk for my LC.  These usually
have Quantum guts.  I was told by two suppliers that the 105 has been
discontinued, but new drives are not yet available.  The 105 was priced
around $399.

Any recommendations for alternatives?
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RE: Comments on 3rd Party Keyboards - Mac 101E, etc.
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:33:47 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

I purchased a DataDesk 101 for my Plus, and have been quite satisfied.  I had
some key-bounce at one point, but found that the phone-jack connector was a
bit dirty, and just re-plugging it in seemed to fix it.

Also, beware of any required inits/CDEVs that go with it.  My Plus required
that to make it fully functional.  Then System 7 came out - no more init. 
Fortunately, Quickeys has built-in drivers for that keyboard.  


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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New powerbooks/duos  (powerbook tuner)
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:38:44 GMT
	<zaphod-240892153602@134.29.65.250> <NICK.92Aug25141801@vaila.ed.ac.uk>
	<l9kineINNh9@strauss.crhc.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: fuchs@strauss.crhc.uiuc.edu's message of 25 Aug 92 14:59:58 GMT

In article <l9kineINNh9@strauss.crhc.uiuc.edu> fuchs@strauss.crhc.uiuc.edu (W. Kent Fuchs) writes:

   From personal experience,  I was experiencing LOTS of errors
   in transferring files at 38400 BAUD in a direct connection between
   my Sun workstation and a PB 170 using the external modem port.

   Dropping in the Powerbook turner obtained from rascal.ics.utexas.edu  
     /misc/mac/support-of-products/Apple/PowerBookTuner_1.0a2_hqx
   ELIMINATED all the errors.   Removing the tuner causes the file
   transfer errors to reappear.    

Hmm. Perhaps it patches the driver(s) in the CTB to use the PollProc
hack to capture lost data. Are you using the CTB? The Tuner certainly
doesn't fix MIDI.

Nick.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: terjer@ifi.unit.no (Terje Rydland)
Subject: Re: new high-end Macs?
Organization: Ifi, University of Trondheim / AVH
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 06:30:17 GMT

In article <7182@lib.tmc.edu> drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
writes:
>Has anyone heard anything about any high-end Macs that we might see before the
>PowerPC? For reasons unknown to me, my department doesn't think a Quadra 950
is
>enough machine for me, but I can probably count on getting the next high-end
>Mac released. Will I have to wait until 1994 for the first PowerPC or is there
>going to be some other high-end Mac before then?
>
>David Gutierrez
>drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu
>
>"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
>
According to the English version of MacUser (24/7-92)  there will
be a new high-end machine (codenamed Cyclone) in the spring
of '93. (Rumours, rumours)

50 MHz 68040
2 MB ROMs
	QuickTime
	QuickDraw GX
	Casper voice recognition
Built ins:
	DSP (Digital Signal Processor) for CD-quality  stereo sound
	9600 baud fax send/receive
	Digital and analogue video I/O (works with RGB, NTSC, PAL, SECAM)
	Ethernet
3 NuBus slots
Full SCSI-2 implementation


>For reasons unknown to me, my department doesn't think a Quadra 950 is
>enough machine for me.

They probably don't know either. I don't know the alternatives but after all
the '950 is faster than any of the 50 MHz '486 machines out there.  


Terje Rydland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: daniel@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (Dan Quoidbach)
Subject: Thanks, I needed that (was Oh my god...)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Ocean Drilling Program/LDGO
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 15:09:55 GMT

Thanks to all who responded and pointed out my mistake. I had been so
caught
up in the fact that I had been trying to re-upgrade my plus to 4 MB that,
when
I was testing it with the 256 KB simms I had forgotten about the clipped
resistor. I tried it with 2.5 MB and it works just fine. Now all I have to
do
is get the Chip Merchant to sent me a replacement for the simm that makes
my
mac sound like a popcorn popper!

Thanks again for bringing me to my senses.



Dan Quoidbach                               daniel@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
Ocean Drilling Program
Lamont-Doherty Geological
Observatory
Palisades, NY 10964
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From: smike@santafe.Sitka.Sun.COM (Bruce Linde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,sun.mac-users,misc.forsale,sun.forsale.computers
Subject: *** Mac PB100 2/20 + f.d. $799 @ Whole Earth Access Berkeley ********
Keywords: mac, powerbook, pb100
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:56:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: santafe.sitka.sun.com


    whole earth access in berkeley is selling powerbook 100's w/ 2mb ram and
    a 20mb hard disk and external floppy drive for $799.  they will add 2mb
    ram for an additional $129.  they also have an inexpensive (protec?)
    case for $40, as well as the kensington case for about $100.

    they just received 1400 of them.
    
    talk to robert levine, a most excellent and clean karma sales guy, at
    510 845-3000

    good luck ...
From: Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: recommend a 14.4k modem?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 04:29:12 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.18 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:

> Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:
JW>   to let you in on a sleeper of a deal: the US Robotics Sportster 
JW> line of  modems is their consumer line, and their Sportster 
JW> 14.4 Faxmodem sells for  under $350 on the street (pick up 
JW> Computer Shopper). It's v.32bis, of course,  and comes from 
JW> a company with some years of experience in high speed modems. 
JW> 
JW> However, the sportsters are not as good as the dual standard 
JW> ones. 

For the lurkers:  The Dual Standard you refer to is from the USR Courier line.
 Their Sportster line is USR's "value" line (if you will).  Yes, it's true,
the Courier line is superior to the Sportster line.

However, I was responding to someone looking for "the best modem" in the Zoom
Supra range.  The Sportster is USR's answer to the new inexpensive faxmodems,
but it's been around much longer, and is made by a company with much more
experience in high speed modems.  It's only at most $50 more than the Supras
of the world, but gives much better performance than that $50 would belie.

I just wonder why USR isn't advertising the heck out of it.

--Adam--
 
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From: west@turing.toronto.edu (Tom West)
Subject: IIsi and HD20SC problem
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:31:48 GMT

  We have an SE with an internal and external 20 Meg HD.  All the drives
are Apple equipment.  We recently got a IIsi running System 7.01. + Tuneup 1.1.1
(The SE is running 6.0.8.)   Anyway, the external HD reads perfectly on the
SE, but when hooked up to the IIsi, the IIsi claims the drive unreadable upon
bootup and offers to initialize it.  If I take the drive, power cord and SCSI
cable back to the SE, the drive is readable again!

  I've checked SCSI ID numbers and I tested a CD ROM Drive on the IIsi SCSI port
just in case the port was bad.  In both cases the cabling is a System Cable with
terminator at the end connected to the HD 20 SC.

  Apple HD Setup and Disk First Aid both recognize that *something* is attached
to port 2, but both claim it to be unreadable if I try to access it.  HD Setup
*does* get the hard drive's name correctly, however.  Unfortunately any attempt
to test it gets a failed when attempting to read data from disk.

  I'm just about out of possibilities.  Any ideas what could be causing me
problems?  Is there something about Sys 7 I don't know?  Are IIsi's compatible
with HD 20 SC's?  Any help, pointers or suggestions would be appreciated.

  Thanks in advance.
-- 

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       west@hsa.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: conboymj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael J Conboy)
Subject: Re: What causes monitor flicker?
Keywords: monitor, flicker
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 05:13:50 GMT

Here is a question along the same vein:
	When I look at my BW Mac SE's screen with polarizing sunglasses
(and turn up the brightness to compensate), the flicker is less noticeable!
(Try it.)  Since I'm sure the monitor is still flickering away like usual,
why do the eyes perceive a more stable image under polarized light?  I have
noticed ads for "glare guards" which fit over the screen to eliminate glare.
Some of these are polarized.  Has anyone tried them?  Do they reduce flicker
as well as glare? 
	 If you have a good guess, e-mail it to me and I'll summarize to the
newsgroup!

Mike
conboymj@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Ian
Subject: Apple video 4.8->8.24 How??
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:59:37 GMT

I have an apple 4.8 video card connected to an apple portrait monitor. I
noticed two SIMM like slots on the card and was told that I can add memory to
make the card an 8.24. A local computer shop wants $250 (ouch) for the upgrade
I also baffles a few of the mail order places.

Does anyone know a cheaper solution? What kind of memory does the card require.


thanks,

Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: daniels@xstor.com (Daniel A. Segel)
Subject: Re: Maxtor 213
Organization: Storage Dimensions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 18:17:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.011250.25315@cbis.ece.drexel.edu>, peter_chen@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Peter Ming Chen) writes:
> 
> The Quatumn  LPS Hard Disk supports SCSI-2. I used the FWB HDT's HDT
> Proble to get the information about a Quantum LPS80 HD, it said that it's
> SCSI-2 level Hard Disk. I
> think that's the reason why Quantum is fast on the Quadra than Maxtor
> (Maxtor is a 
> SCSI-1 level Hard Disk)
> 
The SCSI bus in the Quadra's is *not* SCSI-2, and therefore it wouldn't
make any difference whether or not the drive itself supported SCSI-2.

If the Quantum is faster, it's because it is physically faster (i.e. head
movement & rotation speed) or electrically faster (transfer rate, which is
in some ways dependent on the drive being physically faster). Quantum's
also have very good caching algorithms which can make their drives appear
to be faster than others.

Keep in mind that while most drives on the market these days are SCSI-2
*command complient*, only a few are actually capable of doing SCSI-2 Fast
transfers (i.e. up to 10MB/second). And in order to do a SCSI-2 Fast transfer,
you need a true SCSI-2 bus, which none of the current Macintosh models have.

Daniel A. Segel
Macintosh Customer Engineering
Storage Dimensions, Inc.
From: SteveWall@aol.com (Steve Wall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Should I hold off for PhotoCD?\
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:03:26 GMT
Organization: Only weekdays, 9-5

> 
> There are a number of drives on the market today that can read single-session
> Photo CDs (including the newer Mac CD drives, but not the original).  Multi-
> session drives are due "any day now", and have been announced as standard on
> the new Macs.  I haven't been able to find any commercially, yet.  (One
> "session" corresponds roughly to one roll of film transferred to CD).
> 
Actually, all the above is true, except for the "session" size.  Basically,
a session is however many images you have available for recording at one time.
Meaning, if you shoot 3-36 shot rolls of film and send them all in at once,
you can get all 108 images in one session.  Also, under these circumstances
you can probably fit 108 images.  There's a capacity loss involved in writing
each session, and there's some variability in the compression used in
making the PhotoCD format, but it's possible to get as many as 120 images
on a single-session PhotoCD.

Steve Wall
From: Mark.J..Sisson@p842.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mark J. Sisson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LC video RAM upgrade
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:44:26 -0500

  SH> I have an LC with "256k video RAM, upgradable to 512k" as quoted by
  SH> the "Features" pamphlet that came with my LC. Do I needa special board
  SH> or anything additional, or can I go out an buy the 512k RAM and plug
  SH> it right in? Thanks. hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (scott hudziak)
 All  you need to do is plug it right in to the space where you took the 256K
VRAM OUT!
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From: npl@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Nicholas LaMendola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Strange Tone Sequence During Startup.
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:43:25 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

I have a most frustrating problem with my Mac SE/30 at home. Last night, I was
using Excel 3.0 on my Mac and got a system bomb due to a "divide by zero" in
the Finder. This did not alarm me since I have seen it before, and proceeded
to simply hit the offered Restart button. When it restarted, I heard the normal
tone it makes upon startup and then saw the background being drawn, but then
instead of seeing the icon to denote that it had located the startup file, I
heard a strange 4-tone sequence that sounds exactly like the annoying "Your 
attention, please" tone given at Charles de Gaulle airport, and then nothing.
The background screen stayed, but it never found the startup file. I tried
booting the system of a system 7.0 startup disk I had, and still nothing.

This morning I tried again and was able to boot it off the startup disk once
and was using when I got a recurring Type 28 error while trying to do some-
thing in Excel, and so I figured I would try and reboot it off the hard
drive, but no dice, I got the same "Your attention, please" tone signal and
no startup file found. I tried to reboot it off the disk figuring that my
hard drive system file was damaged and would have to be reinstalled (in one 
case scenario), and again, no dice, and even worse, the system disk is 
stuck in the floppy drive and will not eject despite every troubleshooting
effort and the old straightened paper clip.

My question is whether this is a common (relative ?) problem to occur with
the system file and that my eyes have never seen this issue discussed in
the last 18 months on these newsgroups. Also, why did it restart this morning
after not having done so last night, is this a rest-dependent phenomenon, or
is it indicative of a greater problem. Anyone with any hint of what might be
wrong is certainly welcome to e-mail me. I basically want to, at least, be
able to reboot it once to back up a couple of very recent files. 

Thanks in advance,

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From: wes@vax2.concordia.ca (Wes Schyngera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook 145
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:19:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone know if the new Powerbook 145 will have a
monitor interface pre-installed?
From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Radius Color Pivot/LE info
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Aug29.002042.42644@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> russ@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I noticed that MacDepot is
>selling the monitor and the Video card for $799.  It seems almost too
>good to pass up, but I'd like to know more about it.  Does anyone know
>if its been reviewed in any of the Mac Magazines?

Same here.  I've been looking to add a color monitor to my cx and would 
be very interested in comments on the Pivot LE.  How about the regular
color Pivot?  What's the difference?  How about MacDepot - anyone have
experience dealing with them?  I know that Club Mac is also selling them
for something like $879 and I've heard they're reputable.

>Respond here or e-mail me.

PLEASE POST your responses, as I suspect others are also interested in
this topic.

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From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: Re: PB100 2/20+FD $699 at CitiDollar (was: Re: PB100 2/20 at Microcent
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:32:44 GMT

A few people have asked me about the Citibank Citidollars PowerBook 100 2/20 
deal.  Well, I managed to find my catalog, and here is the order number:

Item #A2876FA Apple Macintosh Powerbook 100 2/20 w/FDHD

Good luck to all.

Bob
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From: marc@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Marc Matteo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Strange Tone Sequence During Startup.
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:31:26 GMT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

Oooh oooh oooh!  Your Mac has one foot in its grave and one on a bananna peel!
Get it to a shop, quick.  We had the mystical melody occasionally pop up on a 
Mac II a while back and then ultimatly it died.  A tech showed up, heard the
melody and imediatly took the Mac away.

I guess it's a "bad memory" or "bad chip" or "you're screwed" tone.

Marc.
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From: mxmora@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: SE Accelerators was (Re: NewLife Accelerator in SE--Garbled sound)
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:58:17 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <1665@sousa.ltn.dec.com>long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com(Rich Long) writes:

> Daystar Digital has just introduced a version of their PowerCache (16Mhz and
> up 68030) for the Classic and SE. Supposedly, it does NOT have the garbled
> sound problem.

> It also installs with an adapter board that allows up to 16MB RAM, or you can
> just use motherboard RAM.

> I think MSRP on this board is $479, but I don't really have any other
> information. If anyone does find out more, I'd like to know, because I'm
> seriously considering this board.


I just got off the phone with Mobius and here's what the sales droid said:

They fixed the garbled sound.

The board that includes extended memory option is $599.00
(16mhz 030)
Math coprocessor add    $95.00
Full page display add  $499.00

You need to populate the board with memory. It can take 1,2,4 meg simms for a 
total of 16megs real ram. They also give you virtual for even more memory.

You have to by the 2meg simms from them if you want 8megs of ram. 
They cost $89.00 a piece. (I think you can get 4meg simms from chip mercant
for that price.)

Mother board memory becomes a ram disk.

Californians add sales tax.

Packge with monitor/coproc/8megs 1549.00
Ca tax                            127.79
Shipping                           10.00
----------------------------------------
Total                            1686.79

That is quite a bit for a non colorQD mac. Maybe I should wait until oct.
The add says it as fast as a ci. Thats questionable.

Anybody else have any quotes for upgrading a SE?

Matt

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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Fourteen hundred??? (Re: *** Mac PB100 2/20 + f.d. $799 @ Whole Earth Access Berkeley ********)
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:26:46 GMT
Organization: Naff Green Shorts Dance Co.
In-reply-to: smike@santafe.Sitka.Sun.COM's message of 3 Sep 92 17:56:53 GMT

In article <lackf5INN2ti@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> smike@santafe.Sitka.Sun.COM (Bruce Linde) writes:
       they just received 1400 of them.

Good grief! How many of these machines are there? 100's? 1000's? Is this
all just Apple clearing stock of a discontinued item? How long is this
going to last? I can't help wondering how much warehouse space Apple must
have... Or for that matter, how badly they misjudged the machine's
unpopularity. (Well, *I* like 'em.)

Nick.
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From: Roman.Brice@f204.n2603.z1.ieee.org (Roman Brice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Forsale: Supra 14.4 For $
Date: 31 Aug 92 02:29:02 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/204 - Not Even Odd, Forest Hills NY

I'm interested in the modem.  Does this mean that I will get the 5 year 
warranty as well since I'm not purchasing the modem directly?

Just checking.

Call me days (212) 657-9334.

Thanks alot.


 * Freddie 1.2 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Mac.

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From: bng@tropel.gca.com (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: *** DISCOUNTED MACS !!! ***
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:00:37 GMT

HELLO EVERYONE!

I was talking to a salesman this morning at ComputerCity (a big computer store
here in Rochester, NY).  He told me that the BIG DISCOUNT from university 
computer stores right now will not be available to non-university compute 
stores until the week of 9/14.  Is that right?  Does anyone know about the
"inside" info as to how much discount those stores will be able to give?
Deeper discount than universities'??

Just for your info:

Univ. of Rochester, Computer Sales
IIsi 5/80 CPU	~$1499

ComputerCity:
IIsi 5/80 CPU	~$2200

Thanks,
Baldwin Ng

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