From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Kremlin_Gate: Bill Clinton in Moscow during Viet Nam.
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi Inc, Phoenix AZ USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:49:07 GMT

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In article <1992Oct10.081708.24118@news.ysu.edu> ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller) writes:
]In a previous article, john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore) says:
]>]In article <1992Oct7.022226.19164@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore) writes:
]>]
]>]> He WAS in the SU in '70. He admitted it on TV last night.
]>]
]>]"Admitted"?!  It's an "admission" to say that you travelled during
]>]your Christmas vacation?  
]>
]>Yes, admitted. He never brought it up until he was asked as a result
]>of Republican digging.
]
]Amazing.
]
]He didn't volentarily disclose that he took a vacation 23 years ago.
]Why is it he SHOULD have addressed the issue before the Republicans
]"dug" it up?

Since he was an anti-war activist (something else he conveniently
"forgot" to tell the american people), and was demonstrating against
American policy in a foreign country, and went to the capital of what
was at that time considered a mortal enemy of the us.... yes, he should
have addressed it. Furthermore, it would have saved him a lot of trouble,
since the way it came out, in dribbles, led to him repeatedly lying
and dissembling about the issue, and then being contradicted, by
others OR HIMSELF, within days. Not a stellar performance.

If he can't take these sorts of attacks and respond honestly, why should
we expect him to be honest about other issues?

]> This is the same guy who has been slippery about
]>the draft business, dishonest about the Jennifer Flowers business, and in
]>general lies a lot.
]
]A POLITICIAN, LIE!!  Say it ain't so!!
]
]Clinton does not have a monopoly on that, you know.  
]His draft record is irrelevant, he has stated he took LEGAL steps
]to aviod serving in a war he felt and still feels was morally wrong.
]
]Jennifer Flowers is irrelevant, as any problem exested between himself
]and his wife, and they have resolved them.  The rest of it is the business
]of no one, unless you wish to take the stand that ALL persons who have had
]marital problems should be required to disclose all to the public.

If you want to consider a long record of lying for no good reason at all,
cheating on his wife, and political favoritism for his lover, to be
immaterial, then you'll love Slick Willie. I happen to consider them
all windows into his soul, and what I see through those windows isn't
pretty.

]> All sorts of stuff about his anti-war stuff is now
]>coming out. I have no problems with him being against the war, but when
]>he (a) demonstrates against the US in a FOREIGN country, and, the same
]>year (b) travels to the capital of the main embassy while we are in a war,
]>I have real problems with his judgement.
]>
]
]Why?  It was, in 1969, neither illegal, nor immoral, to either protest
]the war, or travel to the Soviet Union.

No, but it was anti-american to protest American policies in a foreign
country, which is the main allegation. Furthermore it was of questionable
judgement to travel to the capital of the main enemy while being involved
in those activities.

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