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From: res@colnet.cmhnet.org (Rob Stampfli)
Subject: Re: ODD SYMPTOM FOR 512k BOARD
Organization: Little to None
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:29:09 GMT

> Yesterday, I obtained a 512k card and attempted to put it in my 7300. As I
>have a fully populated Combo card (1.5 meg), I wired pins 29 and 28 of the
>board to VCC to use (virtual) slot 4. 
...
> As of now, when I insert the board in slot 3, the computer refuses to boot,
>and not even the fans start to spin. When I take it out, it works OK. If it's
>not the pins, as I suspect it is, what could cause this type of thing to occur?
>The other two slots are occupied by two combo cards, one 1.5 meg and the other
>0.0 meg (No memory).

Well, you are in the right ballpark:  Pins 28-30 do determine what slot the
board thinks it's in.  But, I *HOPE* you mean you cut the traces running to
the pins and wired the (now unattached) associated traces to VCC.  If you
really wired VCC to the pins, you caused a direct short from VCC to ground.
That could explain your odd symptoms.  (Ouch!)
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From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: What's in Development Set?
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:30:17 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <1992Jul22.124105.4309@brtph560.bnr.ca> hruska@bnr.ca (Bob Hruska) writes:
>
>I have two different machines that I know little about.  For one, I
>have the complete Foundation 3.51m set on floppy.  The other has
>only the hard drive, but it contains the entire set of software
>(foundation, development, text formatting)
>
>I would like to install the development set (along with foundation 
>3.51m) onto the other machine. My question is, what are all the 
>files in the foundation set I need to move?  

	More than any sane man would want to list. :-)

	Probably the best way to do this is to make a full backup of the
system which has the development set on floppies (have *lots* of
pre-formatted floppies - you should probably modify the descriptor file in
/usr/lib/iv to make a 42-track floppy with 10 sectors/track so as to
maximize the ammount which fits on each floppy.

	Once you have the backup made, you can extract it on the other
system.  This presupposes that there is little other than the foundation and
development sets on the first box.  The backup software will *not* back up
the foundation set - you should have a full set of diskettes with the
foundation set for restoring the machine in case of a crash.  This I
normally consider to be a big negative of the behavior of the backup
software, but in this case, it works to your advantage, since you don't waste
time copying what is already on the other system.

	Good luck
		DoN.

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From: crtb@helix.nih.gov (Chuck Bacon)
Subject: Re: BLANKING SCREEN
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:50:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.154417.11065@cci632.cci.com> adw@cci632.cci.com (Allen Williams (co-op)) writes:
>
> How can I get my 7800 to blank the screen after it's not being used for
>a while?
>
>                                                Derrick

Write a small number, like 120, into /usr/lib/ua/.blanktime .  This is the
number of seconds of idleness.  120 gives two minutes.
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From: gregh@cc.gatech.edu (Greg J. Hankins)
Subject: Help formatting a Seagate ST251-1
Reply-To: gregh@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:59:39 GMT

I was in the process of installing a Seagate ST251-1 drive in my att7300,
when I noticed that I can only get it formatted to about 30 MB.  The specs
from Seagate claim that it has a capacity of 42.8 MB.  The specs I used to 
format it were: 820 cyl, 6 tracks per cyl and 17 tracks per sect.  Has anyone 
else has this problem?  Any advice on this would be very much appriciated!

Thanks in advance, 
Greg

"It's not a palindrome!  The     |  Greg J. Hankins 
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From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Archive site for comp.sources.3b1
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:05:09 GMT

Hello,

   I just bought a 2b1, although I haven't received it yet, and would
like to know if there is an archive site for comp.sources.3b1.  I have
been to the osu-archives, but was wondering if there is a site with
the different volumes.  Also, the machine I am getting is just coming
with the Foundation set, and I would like to get the developement set.
Anybody out there selling a developement set??

John

P.S.  I really would like to program on the machine.. 
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From: dburr@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Donald Burr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: tcsh question
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:09:50 GMT

dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.)) writes:

>In article <1992Jul29.141150.28545@brtph560.bnr.ca> hruska@bnr.ca (Bob Hruska) writes:

>>My question is, why can't I run any /bin/sh scripts from it?
>>If I put the #!/bin/sh at the beginning, it doesn't work.

>	[ ... ]

>>If I do "sh scriptname" it works, but just "scriptname" gives
>>me "if: Expression Syntax."

>>Any ideas?

>	Sure!  tcsh is a csh derivitave which uses a different syntax for
>most control structures.  Your "#!/bin/sh" would work in a BSD-derived
>system, or other variants as well, but not under this old a SysV.  The
>ability to act on '#!' is a special case of magic number recognition done by
>the kernel.  The SysV kernel that we have doesn't know about this particular
>magic number, so tcsh is left to try to figure out how to deal with the
[...]>script, and fails.

>Where the ':' character must be the first character of the file.  (The rest
>is not important, except as a flag to the human examining the script.)  This
>works because csh won't accept that as a pseudo-comment, but will recognize
>it as meaning that the script must be run by /bin/sh.  It is not as general
>a solution as '#!' is, but it was developed back when the choices were
>/bin/sh or /wherever/csh, so if it wasnt' csh, it *must* be for sh :-)

There is a great set of library routines around called "libiexec", that
are wrappers around exec(), execve(), etc. that understand "#! foo" and
run the appropriate shell; that way you can directly exec() shell
scripts.  I have compiled tcsh and other shells (pdksh, bash, etc.) with
it and it works quite well.

If you like, I have a tcsh binary that has libiexec compiled into it.
Or I can send you the code for libiexec.  Just send me an email message
with your address.

Also, I think they were posted to "comp.sources.misc", that's where I
think I got them.

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From: olson@mydual.uucp (Kirtland H. Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: What's in Development Set?
Summary: Caution in Backing up System
Keywords: warning backup UA
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:03:31 GMT
Reply-To: olson%mydual.uucp@alliant.com
Organization: The Harvard Group, 01451-0667

I can't answer your question, but you should know about the backup
system on these machines.  

FULL BACKUP ISN'T.

Full backup via the window system on a 3b1 does *not* backup *any*
software installed from a floppy, no matter when it was done.  This
makes sense in the context of a system where the distribution disks are
available, but it will cost you *all your application software* if all
you have is the hard disk.  

What full backup does is back up everything else--the stuff not
installed. That should correspond to user files.

I don't recall what file tells the system what to skip, perhaps someone
else can help.  You can, of course, create something to do a complete
backup. I'm told that afio would be a preferable program to record your
floppy backup (easier to do partial restores) but my how-to knowledge is
not as good as my what-to knowledge.  Perhaps someone else can help.



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From: grabenst@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Michael Grabenstein; ACS (GUEST))
Subject: Help on the PC7300, please
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:30:20 GMT

    HI, I have a PC7300 which is collecting dust and I would like to
put it to work. It still has the old 5 or 10 meg HD in it, but I have
an ATASI Model 3051 40M hd. Which I think works. Adn I also think fits
into the 3b1 I have. Can anyone gie me some info on this?
 
        Also I am running the old release 2 vresion of the operating system
is there anyone who would give me, or sell me (cheap), or "loan" me the new
release? I would like the release that has a C compiler, some way of adding a
C compiler.
 
        Also the mouse does not track worth a you-know-what. Is this normal?
I can move the mouse and sometimes the pointer moves and other times it
tries but does not move where I want it to. I think the mouse ball may have
been swaped out of it by mistake and the wrong one put back in,but it fits
pretty well. Any ideas???? Other than that it works fine..
 
        Any kinda steering that someone could give me would be great!
I know UNIX and administer to a couple of BSD, but that is at work and
I want something for home too.
 
Thanks!,
        Mike
        ZMEG@AACC.bitnet
        or grabenst@umbc3.umbc.edu

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From: kirtus@athena.mit.edu (Kirk R Hill)
Subject: Re: Marching Boxes
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:29:54 GMT

In article <Bs2347.B0K@wrs.com>, gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
|> Well, we fixed it.  I'm not sure how, but we fixed it.
|> 
|> hard drive into the floppy's power connector...it spun up!  We switched
|> it back to its own connector...it still worked!  We put everything back
|> together before it changed its mind, and it's still working 24 hours
|> later.  There wasn't even any filesystem damage to speak of.
|> 
|> I'm not sure why switching to the floppy power connector would make any
|> difference...maybe it was just a coincidence, and it would have started
|> working anyway.

It sounds like there was just some corrosion on the connectors and in that case
just removing and replacing the connectors a few times generally clears up the 
problem.

Just a guess though don't hold me to MY word!

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From: afc@shibaya.lonestar.org (Augustine Cano)
Subject: New phone number for Caig labs: 1-619-451-1799
Organization: Multidisciplinary Designs Unlimited
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:57:13 GMT

I just found out that the number posted previously for Caig Laboratories
is no longer valid.  See the subject line for the new one.  I'm currently
waiting for a catalog and plan on finally getting the famous Cramolin.

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From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Expantion board for 7300
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:23:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <COSC16TT.92Jul22005943@menudo.uh.edu> DGray@uh.edu writes:
>
>I am not sure how much it will cost, so I might end up not buying one
>of these.  But, ifyou have one to sell, or know of a retailer of them,
>please let me know.  If you have one, please let me know how much you
>want for it.

	It is not totally clear whether you want an exPansion box, which
will accept more cards, or an exTension board, which would allow you to
measure voltages, waveforms, etc, on a board while it was connected to the
cpu box.

	If anybody out there has any of the latter, I too would be
interested in the purchase of one.  The expansion box implies that I want to
run more cards than I think the machine can usefully support (at least while
one of them is an ethernet card), so I am not too interested in that.

	Thanks All
		DoN.

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From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Problems upgrading 1Mb motherboard to 2Mb.
Keywords: ram upgrade
Date: 25 Jul 92 18:04:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: gnosys.1992Jul25.180447.20894

In <1992Jul23.094540.26323@Princeton.EDU> nmil@bird.Princeton.EDU
	(Nikola Miljkovic') writes:

> ... here is the part from the old article that deals with the jumpers.
> If there is an interest I could post the whole stuff or better send it
> to David for inclusion into the archive.

> %%%%%%%%%%%%% How to set the jumpers for 1Mb -> 2Mb ram upgrade %%%%%%%
> ...
> Gary S. Trujillo                              gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
> Somerville, Massachusetts                     {wjh12,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst

Whoa!  These are my signature lines from a couple of years ago, but I certainly
didn't write any of the article included by Nikola.  More likely, I posted some
articles which I dug out of my archives in order to answer some question on the
net a long time ago.

I suggest that, before sending anything to David Brierley to put into the
archives at osu-cis/ftp.uu.uunet we track down who did write the articles, if
only to give credit where it's due.  I hope Nikola has this information in the
"whole stuff" he refers to.  If not, I could probably track them down.

Gary
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From: hruska@bnr.ca (Bob Hruska)
Subject: tcsh question
Originator: hruska@brtph380
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:11:50 GMT

I am using tcsh on my 7300, it is the following version:

version tcsh 6.01.00 (Cornell) 12/19/91 options 8b,dl,al,dir

I did not compile it, I ftp'd the binary.  I don't have a dev set.
My question is, why can't I run any /bin/sh scripts from it?
If I put the #!/bin/sh at the beginning, it doesn't work.
Here is an example:

#!/bin/sh

if [ `tty` = /dev/syscon ]
then
  sysinfo
fi



If I do "sh scriptname" it works, but just "scriptname" gives
me "if: Expression Syntax."

Any ideas?

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From: afc@shibaya.lonestar.org (Augustine Cano)
Subject: Xinu for the 3b1
Organization: Multidisciplinary Designs Unlimited
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:16:09 GMT

I just came across the following in misc.forsale.computers:

---------------------------- reposted article -------------------------

From: ram@cs.umb.edu (Robert Morris)

*The* Robert Morris of worm fame?

Subject: Re: AT&T Unix PC
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:42:49 GMT

...

Betty ported Xinu to these machines, the boards from which we now use
as standalone Xinu machines for OS courses. You can get her source
code with anonymous ftp to ftp.cs.umb.edu in directory /pub/xinu7300

...

Bob Morris
ram@cs.umb.edu

--------------------- end of reposted article -------------------------

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From: dburr@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Donald Burr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.sys.att
Subject: Installing boards (i.e. Ethernet)
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:09:14 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.3b1

I just got an Ethernet board, but don't know how to install it.
Can anyone help me out?  to what level is it necessary to take apart the
case?  Can you just slide in the board through the back, or do you have
to open the case and insert it "from top"?

I would really like to get this thing going, so prompt EMAIL replies
would be highly appreciated.  Many thanks in advance.

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From: hruska@bnr.ca (Bob Hruska P840)
Subject: Re: BLANKING SCREEN
Originator: hruska@brtph380
Organization: bnr
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:15:42 GMT

From article <Bs61rI.DJ9@wrs.com>, by gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven):
> In article 11065@cci632.cci.com, adw@cci632.cci.com (Allen Williams (co-op)) writes:
>> How can I get my 7800 to blank the screen after it's not being used for
>>a while?
> 
> There should be a "Preferences" selection in your User Agent "Office"
> window.  One of the selections under that one allows you to specify how
> many minutes may pass before blanking the screen.

Or, if you hate using that 'Office' thing...

/usr/bin/scrset is what you want.  Pass it the number of seconds you want
the blank timeout to be, i.e. scrset 300

In /usr/lib/ua you can create a file called .blanktime
In that file, put the number of seconds you want the screen to wait before
it blanks.  Then, if you are using the stock /etc/rc it does the following
at boot time:

if [ -s /usr/lib/ua/.blanktime ]
then
  scrset `cat /usr/lib/ua/.blanktime`
fi


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From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: Modem setup problems
Organization: Vision Graphics
              Dover NH
              USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:59:19 GMT

I've just gotten a Datagram 2400 error correcting modem.  I've been TRYING
like hell to get it set up properly and working, and have been having a bit
of difficulty.

I've set up the following:

/usr/lib/uucp/Devices:
ACU ph0 ph0 1200 PC7300 \T
Direct tty000 - 2400 direct
ACU tty000,M - 2400 hayes

/usr/lib/uucp/Dialers:
#hayes	=,-,	"" \dAT\r\c OK\r \EATDT\T\r\c CONNECT
hayes  =,-,	"" \M\p\p\p\pATQ0E1&C1DT\T\d\d\r\d\c CONNECT \m

[ note I commented out the older hayes... I didn't feel like changing the
  luser agent files to accomodate datagram. ]

/usr/lib/uucp/Systems:
Direct Any Direct 2400

It's difficult to say... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  I was
'lucky' and was able to access the Modem's internal config menu once, but
lost it, and haven't been able to get back again...

CU produces this:

$ cu -d Direct
conn(Direct)
Device Type Direct wanted
mlock tty000 succeeded
timed out
generic open timeout
set interface UNIX
getto ret -1
Call Failed: CAN'T ACCESS DEVICE
Connect failed: CAN'T ACCESS DEVICE
call cleanup(1)
call _mode(0)

It used to connect, give some debugging info, and then immediately disconnect.

I honestly can't figure this out and would appreciate some help... it can't
be that difficult to get this working right; surely there is something I am
overlooking or not doing.  I've worked so much on it, that I wouldn't be 
surprised if it were very simple ;)  So another person's help is definately
needed.

The switches (external) on the modem are all correct.  I have this in
/etc/inittab:

 000:2:respawn:/usr/lib/uucp/uugetty -r -t60 tty000 2400

And the DTR light is on, which is correct.  Tonight when I attempted to
dial out, the TD and RD lights blinked rapidly and then stopped.  And hell
if I know, PCOMM... I tried to get IT to use the modem, and of all stupid
things, when I selected the number to dial from the directory, the screen
came up and began the timer... nothing happened so I pressed ESC.  THEN the
modem begins dialing the number!!  Aaarrghh!

A friend of mine has this same type of modem, and I followed his instructions
to set it up.  It still won't work.  I have 2 of these suckers, and they
have been tested and both work fine (2400 baud), so that's not the issue.

Another note, thru the Luser Agent, I selected FLOW CONTROL ON.  I tried
it with OFF and got some very nasty results, like garbage characters all
over the screen (when doing a cu -d Direct).

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Forrest

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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Marching Boxes
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:28:54 GMT

Well, we fixed it.  I'm not sure how, but we fixed it.

The disk wasn't spinning up, and I suspected a stiction problem, so I
tried the standard remedy.  (Lift the front of the machine about three
inches and drop it.)  No dice.  We opened the case and noticed the LED
on the drive itself was functioning, so we knew it was getting power.
We reseated the connectors, pounded on the hard drive case, and tried
again...still no dice.  My roommate (he's the hardware guy...I only do
software) noticed that the power connector for the floppy drive was the
same shape as the power connector for the hard drive, so he checked the
voltages to make sure they matched, which they did.  We plugged the
hard drive into the floppy's power connector...it spun up!  We switched
it back to its own connector...it still worked!  We put everything back
together before it changed its mind, and it's still working 24 hours
later.  There wasn't even any filesystem damage to speak of.

I'm not sure why switching to the floppy power connector would make any
difference...maybe it was just a coincidence, and it would have started
working anyway.

Next project:  my ATT470 printer spontaneously jumps in and out of
compressed mode...most annoying.

Thanks to Don Nichols, Mark Crimmins, and Paul Marxhausen for their
replies!

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