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From: aliu@usc.edu (Alex C. Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Mail-digest archive...
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:26:36 -0700
Organization: None to Speak of
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Keywords: tsx-11

Hi,
 	I think perhaps asking to be able to do grep in the
Mail-digest archive directories in TSX-11 is a bit to much to ask for.
But how about creating a table of contents?  If I am not wrong, this
digests have "Subject" lines that you could extract and put in a
single file.  And one could download this file and simple figure out
what digests have the subjects you are interested in and just download
that instead of downloading digest after digest after digest after
digest.


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From: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLIP and X386
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:24:56 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes:

>Like I said, ka9q was *made* to use a serial line.  However, it doesn't
>provide connections for other applications.  ka9q is *not* a service.
>It's an application which *mimics* the performance of telnet and ftp
>(which use the TCP/IP service), but does all the protocol itself.

>If you "telnet using ka9q", you're really "ka9q'ing in telnet mode".
>Get it?  The 'real' telnet program (which makes TCP/IP-related system-
>calls to the kernel) wasn't even used.

Telnet is a protocol, like IP or TCP.  Any program that implements the
protocol is a "real" telnet program.  KA9Q implements it, so it's a
real telnet program.  (In fact, it handles several telnet options more
cleanly than a stock Sun.  When used with a current telnet server on
the other end, the telnet implmentation in Linux KA9Q will allow ^S
and ^Q to take effect immediately, and ^C or ^O will stop output
immediately.  There is also an easy way to send the telnet special
characters.  None of these things is true with the normal SunOS
telnet.)  It is different than what you're used to on the Sun, because
telnet, ftp, and various other things are done in as a single program,
together with the basic IP and TCP processing, rather than as separate
utilities.  This does have its limitations (e.g. not letting more than
one user use IP over a given serial line), but there's nothing unreal
about it.

The architecture of KA9Q actually does allow it to be used as a
server.  I've seen a version that would support separate application
programs such as telnet and FTP.  (Indeed someone claimed to have
patches for the Linux KA9Q to do this, but didn't actually send them
to me.)  I envisioned KA9Q's use on Linux as temporary, until a kernel
implementation could be done.  So I didn't port the general server
support.  However I have put X server support in.

>The same way, 'xhost' needs kernel TCP/IP.  It cannot use the ka9q package,
>because ka9q is suited only to serving a single USER, not other processes.

I'm not sure how technically you mean xhost.  If you mean the ability
to talk to X from another host, this will work.  Do "start x" in KA9Q.
If you mean the xhost program, xhost is a utility that lets you limit
what hosts X will talk to.  I haven't put that into KA9Q yet, because
I wasn't sure it would be worth the time.  Since several people seem
to find X support in KA9Q at least marginally useful, I'll probably do
it.  However xhost really is a terrible way to do your X security.
.Xauthority is a better approach.  I haven't tried it under Linux, but
if the server was built with it, I see no reason why it wouldn't work
through KA9Q.  (You'd need to build a copy of xauth, of course, and
then FTP your .Xauthority file to the other end before opening your
first X connection.)
From: hlu@poly2.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Want to buy a linux PC...
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:58:32 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <715624803snx@kerberos.demon.co.uk>, alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell) writes:
|> 
|> In article <bibhas.715456267@femto.engr.mun.ca> bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca writes:
|> 
|> >
|> >I did some shopping again for the nth time to buy a 386 good for
|> >linux+X. My budget failed me once again :(
|> >I don't know if I ever will see X running on my own PC :(
|> >                                                        `
|> >Is there anybody out there who wants to sale a compatible PC for a
|> >reasonable price?
|> >Does anyone have any suggestions as to where can I buy cheap noname 386?
|> >Thanks...
|> >Bibhas.
|> >
|> >
|> I have a similar problem and decided to build my own, I get a piece when
|> funds permit all I now need is memory and FD the display can be borrowed
|> from my dos box
|> 
|> a friend with a 386sx16 and 4mb lets me shove my ide drive into his when
|> I want to play
|> 
|> While I'm on is there a list anywere of who owns what on a linux system
|> 
|> anthony
|> 

I am running 0.97 pl 4 and X11 v2.0 on 386/387sx-16 with 4 MB RAM and 105 MB
HD. It works fine so far. I think I can use another 4MB RAM. You can get those
for about $1,000 in US with 1MB ET4000 SVGA. But I'd like to have a 486dx-33
or 50.

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kutcha@eos.acm.rpi.edu (Phillip Rzewski)
Subject: Re: Problems compiling GNU make
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:22:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.164840.24588@pool.info.sunyit.edu> ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:
>I have been repeatedly unable to compile GNU make.  I have had this
>problem for several versions of Linux and a couple versions of GCC.
>This time I think I got the definitions right and it compiles, but
>if I use the resulting make it does something terrible.  This is
>only a request for help from someone that has had similar problems.
>I am using Linux 0.97-patch2 (haven't moved up to patch3, give me
>time) and gcc 2.2.2d.
>
>Say I've got two files to compile and the desired action is as
>follows (I don't remember the original statements, just the desired
>action from make):
>
>gcc -O6 -C filea.c -o filea.o
>gcc -O6 -C fileb.c -o fileb.o
>
>(I hope I got the "-C" correct, this is from memory.)
>
>When I run make, the first line works as expected.  On the second line,
>though, the "fileb.o" gets lost and gcc just sits there without giving
>me any complaints.  Hitting ^C to interrupt the job and then running
>make again allows me to compile the second line correctly, but it
>does the same thing on the next file!
>
>I don't remember the exact structure of the Makefile that this is
>happening with, but I get the same behavior with other Makefiles.  I'm
>only explaining the problem so that someone else might recognize it
>and mail me a fix.  

    Well, I doubt I have a fix for you right now, but I'll post what I have
found for the benefit of others. I was poking through the source to GNU
make tonight for another reason and as I read through the Makefile I saw
something that brought back your problem from the depths of my subconscious.
There is apparently a compile-time DEFINE in GNU make called "NO_MINUS_C_MINUS
_O". I don't know what happens if you define it against the grain of the way
your C compiler works (since I've never personally compiled GNU make) but the
example line they show as for whether or not to -D that constant is:
gcc -c foo.c -o foo.o, which looks hauntingly similar to the one which you
listed above (except for the case of the C, which you probably just missed
while pulling it from your brain).

    I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the existence of that
constant. If you weren't aware of it, I'd see if you've been defining the
constant during your recent compiles of make, and do the opposite thing. :)

    I hope this was of some help to you.

--
   Phillip Andrew Rzewski                      Internet: kutcha@acm.rpi.edu
                    "My analyst warned me about her,
          but she was so beautiful that I got another analyst"
From: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux as X terminal
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:59:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

bills@news.uwyo.edu writes:


>	Is it possible to use Linux as an X server.  IE can
>I run an application on a remote DEC station and control
>it from my Linux machine.  Can this be done using SLIP
>and a fast modem or do I have to use TCP/IP.  Also does
>the SLS distribution have TCP/IP built in?

Yes, however you need a path between X and your DECstation.  As soon
as the next release of X comes out it will support the alpha version
of kernel-mode TCP/IP.  That should let you use TCP/IP over Ethernet
and (eventually) SLIP.  With the current X server, you would need to
use KA9Q, which is a user-mode TCP/IP.  It should do a good job of
supporting SLIP.  Its Ethernet support is sort of marginal.  Note that
both of these options involve X over TCP/IP.  DEC often runs X over
one of their transports (either DECnet or LAT -- I'm not sure which).
So you'd need to make sure that the X on your DECstation will talk to
TCP/IP.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger)
Subject: Re: final touch on installing gcc 2.2.2d
Keywords: final touch on installing gcc 2.2.2d
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:32:38 GMT

In article <Bu7yCJ.n0u@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> eoi@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Chenmin Zhang) writes:
>     chown: bin: invalid group
>     chown: bin: invalid group

This may not help on your problem, but: the rootimage doesn't contain a
user "bin" anymore. (And the group seems to be gone too.)

You can blame this on me because I've talked Jim Winstead into removing
bin because of potential security problems when using NFS and carelessly
exporting file systems to everyone. (Having important directories and
files owned by root instead of bin makes the difference that may let your
friendly intruder be root on your Suns, but not on your Linux box.)

BTW, it's safer anyway to use the numeric form until there is a common
"standard" setup, e.g. chown 0.0 file ...

- Werner
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From: greenfie@gauss.rutgers.edu (Greenfie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Getting tcsh up and running
Date: 6 Sep 92 17:17:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


   Hi! I'm running the mcc-interim release (0.97p2) and I'm trying to get
tcsh running. However, I'm also totally clueless. :^(

   I've got tcsh.tar.Z from tsx-11 in /pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin,
uncompress and tar it, and type make. And gcc returns a lot of undefined
symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment.

   Anyone know a fix? (Sorry if this is a FAQ.)

Thanks to any & all who can help!
-- 
Larry Greenfield
greenfie(ld)@gauss.rutgers.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bugs@cs.montana.edu (Dave Seelmeyer)
Subject: SLS package installation
Organization: Lost in Space
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:55:32 GMT

From: Dave Seelmeyer
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: installation of SLS package
Summary: SLS package installation probs.
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Lost in Space
Keywords: install, help, SLS

First of all, please excuse me if this is a mess (chars. in odd places
and such). This thing is a terrible vt100 emulator.

I have downloaded the SLS distribution from tsx-11 and have it on 5.25"
floppies, and I want to install it on my hard drive. I want it to boot
completely from the harddisk (no floppy boot disks) and want the root
to be on the hard drive as well. The first two rawritten floppies do
their job, and all is ok so far. The problem is when I want to do a full
installation (full base and X11). I have tried sysinstall -all and also
doinstall /dev/hda2. With the first, it asks to insert disk #3 in the
floppy drive and press return. Upon doing this, it repeats the message.
It will do this 3 times and return to the prompt. With the second, it
starts with the same disk #3 message and then responds with "magic match
failed" or somesuch and comes back to the prompt.

So, what I want to know is first: what do I have to do to get Linux
installed fully? second, what does the "magic match failed" message
mean? I have read the FAQ, /user/README, and many of the docs at tsx-11.
I also have been reading this group for several weeks now, and have not
seen anything to solve this problem (reading with my eyes closed or
something? maybe...)

Anyway, please help me with this; replies here or e-mail are fine.

Thanks,
  Dave Seelmeyer
  bugs@cs.montana.edu || oususads@trex.oscs.montana.edu (Internet)
    (preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: thumper@cs.montana.edu (Wade Hasbrouck)
Subject: Bash Documentation
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 21:18:13 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: yuanyin@utdallas.edu (Yuan-Yin Wu)
Subject: Re: Two suggestions .. comments welcome, please!
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:01:38 GMT

In article <KFOGEL.92Sep8192936@edvac.cs.oberlin.edu> kfogel@edvac.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel) writes:
>I had a couple of thoughts. I may not have any more for a while
>because those about burned me out, so here they are:
>
>	It would be a great help to those of use who don't have a disk
>editor for someone to upload pre-edited bootimages to the directories
>that now normally hold bootimages and/or rootimages.  We'd need four
>more images, I guess: one for booting partition 1, one for 2, 3, and
>partition 4. If the space can be spared on the ftp sites, it would be
>a great help. I can't afford to buy a disk-editor myself, and I don't 
>want to pirate one either. Is there anyone who owns a good editor who
>would be willing to do this for future releases? (Yes, I'm always this
>glib when volunteering other people :-)

How about a program to 'edit' (alter) the boot image to suit you?
I'm uploading such a program to SunSite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/Incoming, 
called chbootdev.tar.Z. You exec it in linux and will get what you want.
Note that it does NOT edit the floppy, but the bootimage itself.
There's a README in the file for a bit more detail. 

>	Also, a beginner's guide to kernel recompilations might be
>nice, with a section on what exactly it entails, why it's useful, and
>some common problems encountered in doing so. This is also a project
>that I guess I'm asking someone else to do, since I don't have the 
>necessary experience -- although I'd be more than glad to help in any
>way I can. 
>	Comments? 
>--
>
>                               -Karl Fogel
>          kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu || fogel@antares.mcs.anl.gov
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Another member of the League for Programming Freedom... for info (i.e.: what 
>is the LPF for? How can I join?) email me at kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu. 
>              ***  Help stop the patenting of ideas now!  ***      
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: A Problem with _very_ slow kernel compiling
From: Kristo Kaarlo Matias  <kkk@field.ichaos.nullnet.fi>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:33:50 EDZ
Organization: The Field of Inverse Chaos BBS

This is my hardware:

-486/50Mhz (DX2)
-8 MB RAM (Goldstar 70ns SIMMs)
-Trident 8900c or CVGA1024 (Western Digital chip set)
-Morse VGAPlus SVGA-monitor
-Toshiba 105MB ATID
-Quantum 240MB ATID
-3.5" HD floppy drive
-SoundBlaster 1.0

The problem is that compiling (make all) Linux 0.97pl5 source (from
nic.funet.fi) takes about 25 minutes! Isn't this much too slow for
486/50?!? I have tried this both under pl2 and pl5, compiler was GCC 2.2.2d.

Could this be some kind of hardware incompatibility problem? My box used to
be 386/25, until I bought this 486/50 motherboard. I think there could be
something wrong with my HDD/FDD controller, because it's rather old and
sometimes I get 'HDD control failure' (or something like that..) after
memory check.

(Sorry about my lousy English, I hope you got the point :)


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: colin@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Colin Manning)
Subject: Re: QIC 40 / QIC 80 ?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:19:58 GMT

cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings) writes:

>In article <colin.715839336@marsh>, colin@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Colin Manning) writes:
>> You can get the QIC documents from
>> QIC Drive Standards, Inc.
>> 311 East Carrillo Street
>> Santa Barbara, Cal. 93101
>> Tel: 805-963-3853
>> Fax: 805-962-1541

>Are the QIC 40/80 standards specs for the recording on the media, or do they
>include the floppy interface specs as well?
Sorry - don't know, I haven't got them yet.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rhtenbac@cs.ruu.nl (Robert Tenback)
Subject: Quest: Linux on 386 - 1Mb ???
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:37:28 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science
Keywords: Is it possible?

I recently downloaded Linux but it doesn't work on my 
computer because I have only 1Mb memory. So here is my 
question:

Is it possible to try Linux on a 386, with only 1 Mb memory ?

(By forcing Linux to use fewer buffers, or something like that.)

Answers please by Email to rhtenbac@cs.ruu.nl
      
			   thanks, 
			      Robert.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Subject: Re: VM386? Possible?
Reply-To: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:03:37 GMT

In article <gedCD6u00WAt4=LAoo@andrew.cmu.edu> "Brian E. Gallew" <geek+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>I seem to have lost the ref, but for those of you looking at doing
>Windows stuff under linux, remember,  you don't *HAVE* to windows.
>You just need something that will convert Windows API calls to X
>calls.  Admittedly, this is a *HUGE* API, but as big as X is, there
>ought to be something like a straight translation for some reasonable
>number of entry points.

  I believe the Mac program SoftPC uses a particular video driver on
the Windows side which corresponds exactly to those Mac Quickdraw
calls which are available.  Would something similar be possible for
the Windows->X conversion?

Jonathan Lennox
jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Werner Almesberger)
Subject: LILO: Version alpha.5
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:49:00 GMT

Version ALPHA.5 of LILO can be found on sunsite.unc.edu as
/pub/Linux/Incoming/lilo.5.tar.Z
The documentation is also available as a PostScript file, named
lilo.5.ps.Z

It works with the 0.96c-pl1 kernel or anything newer. The
compatibility problem of lilo.4 with 0.97-pl2 kernels has been
fixed.

Because the binary release of lilo.4 was practically useless and
because there are currently several libraries in use (and I don't
want to link it statically), I'm distributing lilo.5 again as a
source-only release. 

The probably most important feature of lilo.5 is the revised and
extended documentation. It now also covers the basics about booting
and partitions and is written in LaTeX. You need LaTeX and Transfig
(and dvi2whatever) to print it. I've also uploaded a PostScript
file for those who don't have access to TeX. (Maybe somebody should
also provide a HP DJ version ?)

The README (formatted ASCII) has been trimmed and only covers the
most important topics.

The beginning of the CHANGES file is at the end of this posting.

- Werner

---------------------------------- cut here -----------------------------------

Changes from version 4 to 5
---------------------------

  Map installer
  -------------

    - added automatic boot sector backup.
    - fixed variable block size detection. (Didn't work with the 0.97-pl2
      kernel.)
    - added the chroot (-r) option.
    - made the partition table part of a foreign OS boot descriptor
      optional.

  Documentation and installation
  ------------------------------

    - most of README has moved into doc.tex (LaTeX)
    - added a utility to activate a partition.
    - make install  now reminds the user to update the map.
    - dd is now used in a more efficient way in the Makefile.
      (Fewer subshells, etc.)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: smace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Mace)
Subject: Re: SCSI ADAPTEC 1542B card serious trouble !!!!!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 04:24:45 GMT

In article <189stoINNe6h@agate.berkeley.edu> adam@soda.berkeley.edu (Adam J Richter) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.174251.7397@kth.se> f89-cmb@alv.nada.kth.se (Mikael Bj|rn) writes:
>>When I start from a coldboot the boot finds my scsi card and hangs.
>>I have looked and found that the card itself hangs after the message
>>that Linux has found a scsi card.
>[...]
>>For your convinience I here present my configuration:
>>
>>Copam 486/33B with 16Mb and 256 Kb cache using Phoenix BIOS A486 1.01
>>Quantum 210A a 210Mb harddisc.
>>Trident 8900C 1Mb SVGA noname card.
>>AND
>>SCSI host card Adaptec 1542B with BIOS 3.10. This is installed with a
>>standard preinstalled configuration.  Wangtek SCSI tapestreamer.
>
>	As I stated in an earlier posting, I'm also experiencing
>this problem.  Here is some more data on the problem, which might
>be useful to anyone who has ideas about what the bug might be.
>
>	My Adaptec 1542B revision J SCSI controller works fine under
>Mach, but doesn't get along with Linux on my 486/33 with 20MB of RAM,
                                                          ^^^^

you do know that due to the restiction of the ISA bus the 1542B can only
do bus master DMA to the first 16meg of the system.


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