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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: The Wrong Way Home
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:22:45 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

The Wrong Way Home is the title of a book by Arthur J. Deikman and
was reviewed in the Summer '92 issue of Whole Earth Review. IMHO,
many of the net-flames are coming from the same cult-like behaviors
he lists so I thought I would type in excerpts. 

  What is usually meant by a "cult," of course, is an organized
  groups of people you don't like. But cult behavior ... is actually
  quite widespread in everyday life and groups. The basic psycho-
  dynamics are nicely shown in a "Peanuts" cartoon, where Charlie
  Brown announces that security is riding in the back seat of the
  car, with Mom and Dad in the front seat taking care of everything.
                                      --Charles E. Tart (reviewer)

  The wish to ride in the back seat of the car--the dependency dream--
  has great strength and tenacity. It should be recognized as a 
  permanent part of the human psyche even though in adults it ceases
  to be as visible as in childhood. The dream is dangerous because
  in it's most extreme form it generates cults and makes people
  vulnerable to exploitation, regression, and even violence.

  I can offer a checklist of everyday behaviors that you may
  recognize all too well:

  1. Speaking of adversaries or outsiders (e.g. conservatives, 
  liberals, Yuppies, blue-collar workers) as if they were all the same: 
  characterizing them by negative traits only; attributing unflattering
  motives to them but not to yourself.

  2. Lacking interest and information concerning actual statments
  and actions of opponents or outsiders.

  3. Failing to consider the possible validity of an adversary's 
  point of view.

  4. Not taking a critical look at your own position.

  5. Disapproving or rejecting a member of one's group for departing
  from the group position, devaluing the dissident, regarding him
  or her as an annoyance or a problem.

  6. Feeling self-righteous.

                          --Arthur J. Deikman (The Wrong Way Home)

As the saying goes, "If the foo shits, wear it" :-)

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: Unnecessary posts
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:10:54 GMT


Recently, there has been a flood of unecessary posts by a perverse 
netter. Please stop responding to such posts everyone. It costs 
much money to send such articles back and forth, and I do not want
to waste time feeding such articles through my mailer. So, please,
everyone on scj, please stick to relevent discussions.
-- 
    .  .      +---------------------------------+
  --|--|      | Mark Yeon Wook Choi             |
   /.\ |      | yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu |
  --|--|      +---------------------------------+  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan

Has anyone ever taken an intensive 2-3 week course in Japanese in Japan? If so,
I'd like to know how much one can reasonably expect to learn in that time and
what schools are available. Arigatoo gozaimasu.
From: hcheng@Auspex.COM (Howard Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Question about a music group
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:21:56 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

I don't know if this is the right place to ask, but when I was in Japan two
years ago, my (American) friend made me a copy of a tape by this group called
(I think) Sho^ki no RC and the album was called "Sakkusesshon" (Succession).
Does anyone know if this group is still around, how many albums they have
put out, and if they are available in the US? I really enjoyed their music.

Thanks in advance.

h.

"tsumetai tegami yomitakunai keredo... oh no"
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Any Japanese cat Available?
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:49:48 GMT
	<Btx7LI.6zJ@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: cyor@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca's message of 1 Sep 92 22:24:54 GMT

In article <Btx7LI.6zJ@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> cyor@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca
   writes:

 =}In article <1992Aug31.031359.12423@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery) writes:
 =}> 
 =}> [nonsense]
 =}
 =}Do you people remember that last year Hajime san(hajime@watnow.waterloo.edu)
 =}was trying to recommend the above kinds of articles should not be 
 =}on the newsgroup?
 =}
 =}I recalled that there were lots of discussion from people who tried to blame
 =}him by saying that he was trying to censor the newsgroup.
 =}
 =}Now I hope you guys know what his point was...        

   Most of us knew what his point was.  But any form of censorship
other than self censorship is just as bad as the Mystery nonsense.
(At least in my opinion it is.)  Both are immature and unnecessary.
From: koh@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Eunyoung Koh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Looking for e-mail address for Mr. Shigeru Muraki...
Summary: Does anyone know his address?
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:42:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hi,

I am looking for an e-mail address for Mr. Shigeru Muraki who was
working at electrotechnial Laboratory, Tsukuba, Ibaraki and published
a paper on blobby model in SIGGRAPH '91. I would greatly appreciate
it if someone could inform me. Thanks a lot,

				Eunyoung 

p.s. I am sorry about an inappropriate message for this newsgroup.
From: dschmidt@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (David S. Schmidt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Macintosh Japanese Software?
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:44:37 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

Does anyone know of any good Japanese language learning software for the
Mac?  Also, is there anyplace where I could get Japanese/English translation
software, or simply dictionary-type software?  I do have Kanji Talk- the
Mac Japanese system.

Thanks a lot!

dschmidt@stern.nyu.edu
From: jroth@aegis.or.jp (Joel Roth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,aegis.bbs
Subject: Interesting things in/near Osaka (1)
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan
Distribution: world
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

Chakra Vegetarian Restaurant

Hatha Yoga teacher and former macrobiotic consultant Takeshi Yoshima
had a vision about three years ago that he would open an Indian
restaurant. A year later he opened 'Chakra' in a little place off the
main mall at Hankyu Mikuni Station (near Juso).

The shop is decorated with all sorts of things Indian. Some are just 
fabrics hung up in 60s-like fashion, others, such as shirts are 
actually for sale.  Sometimes it's hard to judge which is which.

Last year he and his wife (who actually runs the shop) had a spiritual
awakening of sorts, and decided to go vegetarian.

Their specialty is Japanese-style Indian-style curries. You'd 
understand this if you live in Japan--lots of Japanese people eagerly 
devour KARE, rice covered with a spicy gravylike sauce at grubby KARE
SHOPPU (pl.) that can be found near busy stations and shopping centers
all over the country. Anyway Chakra it quite a contrast to this image.
They use mostly organically grown ingredients and cooks with
principles that would be likely to satisfy the strictest followers of
most religions. Brown rice is available for those who want it.

Interestingly, they do their cooking without onions or garlic, two
ingredients that few cooks anywhere in the world would voluntarily
renounce. They explain that Japan's zen monks of days gone by avoided
these heat-producing substances in search of more subtle and sublime
states of consciousness. They would like to offer us the same chance.
The taste of the food doesn't seem to suffer though, and the overall
smell of the restaurant to me seems closer to that of a spice shop;
there isn't the heavy odor you'd expect at a restaurant.

The food is presented attractively and with a smile.  The bill for a
decent meal is likely to be under 1,500 yen. Neither Takeshi, nor any
of the Chakra staff speak much English (they do try) but that
shouldn't be an barrier, as it's really hard to go wrong.

Remember it's Indian food with a Japanese interpretation. You won't find
chappatis on the menu (partly a problem with doing all the cooking in
the tiny space behind the counter -- another compromise with the
limitations of life in Japan) but nevertheless the food is delicious,
wholesome and satisfying, at least in this non-reviewer's opinion.

But find out for yourself, I hardly ever dine out and am hardly a
connoiseur of food of any nationality (disclaimer implicit).

The shop is open from 10 - about 8pm everyday except Thursday.
Phone no. 06 394 7480 (Japanese)

--
Joel Roth                  >> jroth%aegis.or.jp@unixland.natick.ma.us <<
Brahma Kumaris World          jroth@aegis.or.jp (within Japan)
Spiritual University          1-2-15-501 Nakamichi, Higashi Nari ku,
Raja Yoga Center, Osaka       Osaka, Japan 537, 81-3-971-7251
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:7571 soc.culture.china:24505 soc.culture.hongkong:10367 soc.culture.taiwan:12733
From: u2105545@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Shigetoh Kumagai)
Subject: Re: What did Akihito do during the war
Summary: wrong calculation
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:16:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.174352.3566@craycos.com>, sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes:
> In article <1992Aug30.124345.6018@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> u2105545@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Shigetoh Kumagai) writes:
> >In article <5149@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim) writes:
> >> Just a quick question:
> >> I heard that Akihito is around 70, which makes him in his
> >> early 20's by the 1940's. What did he do during the war and
> >> afterwards?
> >> -Han Kim
> >
> >He was born in 1933, so at 1940 he was 16 or 17.
>                                         ^^    ^^
> 
> I believe you mean "6 or 7".
> 
> Steve

Ohhhhhhh... yes that's right.
It was very late night when I was writing this.
What a horrible mistake!

shigetoh


--
Shigetoh SARIRI Kumagai($@$/$^$,$$(J $@$7$2$H$r(J)   shk@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au
					   u2105545@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au
							(@@)         
A member of OzNeXT; A member of UNSWARS;		  >
From: wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: telephones again
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:50:07 GMT
Organization: AT&T (the phone company)

In article <HARKCOM.92Sep3083305@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.035108.14502@omrongw.wg.omron.co.jp>
>   andy@nff.ncl.Omron.Co.Jp (Andy Krantz) writes:
>
> =}I am shopping around for a phone line (or the 'right' as Mr Harkom calls
> =} it).
>   I used the word 'right' to refer to the kanyuuken (which is not a
>line but a right to have a line).  
If NTT doesn't issue some sort of certificate for the kanyuuken, and it is
possible to buy a used kanyuuken, how do you know that it is a real one,
and not a forgery?  What identifies it to NTT?  How do you (and they)
verify its reality?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Subject: Re: Smell of Food (Was: What do most of Japanese ...)
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:21:06 GMT

>>In article <2459@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>>>Now if you've been in Japan for any length of time, I think you'll
>>>agree that few things smell very much. 


You miss the point that the whole of Japan stinks. Twice now I have flown
into Narita and noticed very strongly the smell of pork. (The times I
can breath without being suffocated with mikkan peelings.)

It is one of my hobbies, detecting the initial smell of countries, because
you only have a few seconds between them descending and depressurizing the
aeroplane, and when your nose desensitizes. 

Other places that stink are are: 

Papua New Guinea			smokey earth (very nice)
Sydney, Australia 			pollen (nice) + oil (not nice)
Hong Kong				spicy food
Singapore				spices but no food
Bahrein					no known equiv or source, so perhaps
					camels?
Turkey					smells old

Cold places, like England and the Continent don't have much of a smell,
I think because England is so bland, and the Continent because it 
overloads the other sense so much.

Any others?
-ricko
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japa
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:00:29 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.040806.3255@ducvax.auburn.edu>,
>kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim) writes:

>.... most of thoughtful, well written post omitted...

Yes, it really was a good summation.

>=> As a conculusion of mine, I became to like General Japanese more than
>=> before and washed out the previous projudice I has had in me via this
>=> discussion.
>=>  But still have suspection against Japanese government and will watch
>=>  out where the government try to lead their people.
>=> I wish Japan be a great, kind and helpful country for the neighbour
>=> countres as well as for herself.
>=> 
>=> Thank you for your reading my post if you followed up to this line.
>=>                                          ---- Hanjung Kim in Alabama --
>=>  

>I followed, and thank you very much for writing that Mr. Kim.

>There have been many informative and interesting points of view
>during discussion of this thread. I really enjoyed reading most
>of them. I guess I found that some Chinese/Japanese/Korean people
>have been misinformed about each other.

Not to mention non-Chinese/Japanese/Korean people like ourselves!

...

>This net is great, isn't it?

Couldn't live without it :-)

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: wohfuchi@splash.Princeton.EDU (Wataru Ohfuchi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What do most of Japanese think of Korean (Re: An open letter..)
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:47:23 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <2459@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>I don't know myself, but a lot of (~30) Japanese nationals have told
>me that 'baka-chon' meant "so easy that even a stupid Korean could
>use it." Maybe they were wrong and it doesn't mean that, but they
>thought it did and gave it as example of how Koreans are made fun of
>even in advertisements. 

  My friend (see Wataru Ohfuchi's original posting) thought that way,
too, but Mr. Tetsuya Nishimura already confirmed in a dictionary that
it is not the case. I don't feel like using the word again, though.
  So, anyway which the hell companies were they that making fun of
Koreans in their advertisements? When? What kind of advertisements?
Was there any criticism against the companies? Would you kindly report
on it, Mr. Dave McLane? (I hope you're still on vacation and have
enough time to do some homework, De-bu. ;-)

[stuff deleted]

>But all is not lost: a woman I know told me she has a Korean friend
>who is always giving her kimichi (sp?) which she politely accepts
>and then puts outside as soon as her friend leaves as she can't
>stand the smell. Hearing her story, I asked if she would give it
>to me and she said yes. So now I get some really great kimichi
>but I can't thank the woman who made it. 
>
>Oh well....

  I like Korean food including kimchee, by the way. Yes, I do even
though once I couldn't help but cry in front of a 19-year old lady
because the food was hyper-hot. :-)

>
>Dave
>
>--
>Dave McLane 
>JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
>Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087

...Wataru
-- 
  ...Wataru Ohfuchi
     Program in Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, Princeton University
     w1o@gfdl.gov _or_ wohfuchi@splash.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen)
Subject: Reentry permits (wasRe: registering marriages)
Organization: Concurrent Nippon Corp.  Tokyo , Japan
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:12:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.194420.402@hamblin.math.byu.edu> luke@platypus.ee.byu.edu (David Luke) writes:
>
>>   For short term visits a spouse visa might be more of a hassle than a
>>tourist visa.  It may be possible to get a tourist visa even though you
>>are a spouse though.  The only way to find out is to contact the consul
>>near you as it seems to vary greatly between consuls...
>
>I believe you can just go to Japan like anyone else.  The only problem would
>be if you had an unused spouse visa (they are single-entry) already stamped
>in the passport, or a valid re-entry permit from a previous visit.  I don't
>know whether you could talk them into ingoring it and letting you enter as
>a tourist.  My guess is that they wouldn't go for it.  Re-entry permits
>require a simple one-page application and Y4,000.  It is simply that --
>permission to re-enter on the same visa.  It doesn't grant any time extension
>of the visa.

My understanding is a bit different about re-entry permits.
If you are a registered alien then when you want to leave Japan 
you have 2 choices get a reentry permit either single or multiple and
pay the rather outrageous fee that they demand.
Or surrender your Alien Registration Card (Gai koku jin tou roku shou
mei shou) to the immigration agent at the airport.  If you surrender 
your alien registration card then you have to re-apply for another one
on your return.  I don't remember how much it cost but if you account
for the time required to re-register its probably better to buy the
re-entry permit.  I don't have my Passport here to check but I believe
that the passport stamp is valid for about four or five years and it
says multiple entry.  The re-entry permit refers to alien registration
not to the visa.

But I could be mistaken.  I've never tried to leave without a re-entry
permit since becoming a resident.
>
>-- 
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|  David Luke                      "There's nothing worse than a brilliant     |
>|  luke@wombat.ee.byu.edu           image of a fuzzy concept."                 |
>|                                                               -- Ansel Adams |


-- 
Hank Cohen
Concurrent Nippon Corp.  	Shuwa yanagibashi Bldg. 5F
Yanagibashi 2-19-6 Taito-ku 	Tokyo 111, Japan
Denwa: 03-3864-5714 	Fax: 03-3864-0898
From: ccloretta@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Festivals and holidays?
Date: 24 Aug 92 08:10:30 AEST
Organization: University Of Queensland

What are the popular festivals/holidays celebrated in Japan - I have heard of kodomo no
hi - are there any others?


Thanks in advance,
Loretta...
From: deant@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Dean Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: rugby in japan
Keywords: rugby
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:24:24 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

I play rugby in Australia and would like to play this season in Japan.
I plan to get a working holiday visa.  Could anyone send me
information on rugby clubs in Japan and how to contact and join them.
Any information on rugby over there in general would also be
appreciated (or info on teaching English, technical re-writing
or work in computer programming).

Thanks,
Dean Taylor
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Is MAZDA a Japanese word?
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:53:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Sep2.014809.25272@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

>I've never heard of any relation with Zoroasterism;
				       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
		I don't know if this is true or not, but I have heard that 
		their truks sell well in the regions where they have 
		Zoroasterism.

		Anyone?

						Tetsuya Nishimura

			
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Re: Is MAZDA a Japanese word?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:54:50 GMT

In article <14767@mindlink.bc.ca> twt@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom W. Tomlinson) writes:
>Hi.  My friend Stan is the happy owner of a Mazda 626.  Is Mazda a
>Japanese word or name?  The sequence /zd/ does not normally occur
>in Romaji: is the name actually Matsuda?  What is the origin of the
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That's what I was told by my Japanese friend when I
asked him the same question. 

>name of this brand of car, and how is it represented in Kanji (if
>it can be)?
>
>Thanks a lot,
>Tom
>--

Tony
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ward@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey ward)
Subject: U.S. bombing
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:30:51 GMT

I'm not a regular subscriber, but I'm giving a talk at the local
Baptist Student Union on the presence/absence of Christian morality
in U.S. history.  Approximately how many Japanese civilians were
killed by U.S. bombing in WW2?  Thanks,

Jeff Ward
The Ohio State University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yyg8104@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Question)
Subject: Sakamoto
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:09:46 GMT


What's the Chinese characters for the name "sakamoto" ? Anyone can help ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daniel Saltel)
Subject: MESSAGE
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:11:32 GMT

There were offensive messages sent by my user-id.
These were not sent by me.  Please stop sending me mail.
It was not my fault.
From: rsnxprt@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (scott [RSN-XPRT])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Electronic Translaters
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:12:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


Hello,

    I have been away from the net for a while now, but, I
remember reading about electronic translaters which could be
expanded by adding moduals with stored dictionarys of words.  
Only back then, I was not in a situation to obtain one.:=) 
    I am looking for one now which can be used for as many 
languages as possible, but be based in English.  I am hoping I
can find one which also has the abillity to use other fonts as
well as pheonetics (ie. Kenji, Han-gul, Thai) .  If anyone 
has one that they are trying to sell, or knows even where to 
find such an item, I would be eternally greatful if you could
tell me! 
    My e-mail address is rsnxprt@mentor.cc.purdue.edu .  Thanx 
in advance!  

Scott