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From: rpr@st1-par.oce.nl (Rob Prikanowski)
Subject: Riggs/Maiden Art (Was: Iron Maiden's FEAR OF THE DARK)
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 08:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.220443.7592@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
>	I think No Prayer is their weakest album.  The new Eddie is not done
>by Riggs, tho he is thanked in the liner notes.  I heard that Riggs had a 
>prior committment, so they needed a different artist.  Apparently everything
>is still amicable, since they still thanked him.
>	I, BTW, think the new artist's rendition sucks pretty bad.  Then again
>nothing can compare to Rigg's work on the Stranger in a Strange Land single
>cover ("The Android With No Name").

Anybody know if there is a book or something with the complete series of
Eddies that Riggs (or others) did for Maiden? Not only the album covers, but
also the ones you see on the various tour-shirts.

I would be very interested in such a collection. Although I am probably one of
Maiden's first fans in the Netherlands (I got their first album as import, weeks
before it was released here), I still see new Eddies from time to time. Most of
these are from some 'special' shows they did (like the Canadian one).

Greetings, 

Rob Prikanowski
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From: cookg@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: more metallica stuff..
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:59:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.215221.438@wam.umd.edu>, delilah@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
> In article   <92278.125257C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu>  writes:
>> >
>> >In article <BvGH7A.C6@nic.umass.edu>, cons008@titan.ucc.umass.edu  
> (Chuck
>> >Hazlett) says:
>> >
>> >In article <BOS.92Oct1161437@psykoman.hut.fi> bos@niksula.hut.fi (Bengt  
> Olof
>> >Sahlin) writes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>       I have these five CDs of Metallica:
>> >>
>> >>       1. Kill'em all
>> >>       2. Ride the lightning
>> >>       3. Master of Puppets
>> >>       4. And justice for all
>> >>       5. the newest one (don't remember it's name in this hangover :)
>> >>
>> >>       Has Metallica made any other records, and if they have, what
>> >>       is/are their names?
>> >>--
>> >>       ---
>> >>       bos
>> >>
>> >>          ...... who said that my party is all over .....
>> >
>> >Offhand, I can think of the "Creeping Death" lp and the $9.98 CD
>> >"Garage Days Re-Revisited", although I haven't seen either of them
>> >in a record store for quite some time.


^^^^^
They do not make the "Garage days" anymore.  That was off the shelves about 2
years back.


>> >
>> >-Chuck
>> I'm not really sure why anyone would want to get the Creeping Death EP  
> as
>> long as the had the Elektra release of Kill 'Em All. If you have the  
> older
>> K 'E A without Am I Evil? and Blitzkrieg then it's worth it. $9.98 is  
> worth
>> getting. The only other single I can think that is worth the money is  
> either
>> the European import of One or the Harvester of Sorrow EP for the songs
>> Breadfan and The Prince which are two of Metallica's more thrashy  
> covers.
>>                                                       -Teller
> 
> wasn't there a "whiplash" e.p., with like two live tracks?  anyone?
> -D-
From: sco@aero.org (Stacey C. O'Brien)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Absolute best song title contest :)
Date: 22 Dec 1992 16:59:34 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: antares.aero.org

In article <1992Dec8.170949.6099@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.060709.21696@samba.oit.unc.edu> Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:
>>In article <BywtvL.MEz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>>>Well, trolloping through the CD shoppe the other day, I came across my
>>>candidate for absolute best song title.  Here goes:
>>>
>>>Band : Autopsy
>>>
>>>SOng Title (drum roll please) : Necrocannibalistic Vomitorium
>>>
>>>(Runner up, from the same album/group) : Battery Acid Enema
>>>
>>>Thanks for playing ;)
>>>
>>>						THE MAN
>>
>>
>>Here's mine: Tourniquet, "Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance", and that smash
>>hit, "Gelatinous Tuburcles of Purulent Ossification"...
>>
>>What a band!
>>
>>Phil
>>
>
>I remember a band from Phoenix that had one song with a great title:
>
>The Very Idea Of Fucking Hitler
>
>Pax
>					--Judex--
>


I was just thinking "My vote would definitely be for Tourniquet when I
saw Phils posting.

I second his vote! Either Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance or
Gelatinous Tuburcles of Purulent Ossifaction are great.

Metallica/Panthera and all that thrashes - eat your hearts out - Tourniquet
kicks gludials!

                   --Stacey

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From: bacon@cwis.unomaha.edu (Russ Bacon)
Subject: Re: Ozzy Claus and other parodies
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:40:23 GMT

kmahoney@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Keith Mahoney) writes:

>Brent Bowman writes:

>>	I heard one the funniest parodies I have ever heard the
>>	other day...
>>
>>	The DJ announced it as, "Ozzy Claus", and proceded to
>>	play it...
>>
>>	If anyone else has heard this, please let me know...
>>
>>	It was hilarious! If anyone has it on tape, I'd love to get a
>>	copy of it!  
>	Me too!  I think it was on the Columbus, Ohio radio station 99.7

At our local station here they had a parody of AC/DC's TNT except the 
title and words were "PMS".  It such a hit that it was the top requested 
tune for at least three weeks.  The production is definitely local which 
is probably why it only has local air play.  Anyone interested.  I'll also
post lyrics if there is enough interest :)

Russ
bacon@cwis.unomaha.edu
From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Headbangers Ball?????
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:50:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec21.150625.6160@kth.se> d90-two@czarny.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer) writes:
>>>Candlemass does have video out!I don't remember which one but before I saw this
>>>video I hadn't heard CANDLEMASS at all.And after this video I just bought
>>>all their CDs cuz it was awesome
>
>Are you referring to the "Dark Reflections" live video or do they have any
>"real" video out too? (BTW look very close on one of the crowd views on
>that video and you can see me there for a few milliseconds :-)
>

I don't remember.Actually like 1 and 1/2 years ago I got video tape:
backstage interviews and videos.
So there were Celtic Frost,Overkill,Kreator,MOD,Anthrax,Motorhead,
Black Sabbath (went as legend on film),Candlemass and more.
So there was interview w/ Candlemass and part of the video.
This Messiah was saying "Hey, look at my stomach.See how big it is? Then
he said "we are not satanists..etc"

> (except Epicus Doomicus Metallicus-
>>>Not available on CD.Sigh.Had to get LP)
>>
>>Well, at least at one point it was available on CD, since I have a
>>copy.
>
>Yes, but both the US and the European version might be hard to find. For some
>odd reason I own the US version.

I saw this CD before I was into them.And then after it disappeared.SHIT!

Not big deal.Anyway not their best! Only DEMON's GATE iis col w/ this singer.



Leonid,
             
              Boston,

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From: mfc1493@tamsun.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Re: Arrrrrrrrgh!
Date: 21 Dec 1992 13:28:29 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

>You're all a bunch of whiny assholes who sound like 12-year olds who got
>their hands on daddy's computer...i.e. "You suck and so does your band!"
>..."Do not! You suck!"

Ummm...


*WHO'S* whining????





Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Skyclad fans?
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:36:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.073902.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.094520.10385@cs.ruu.nl>, spschure@cs.ruu.nl (Sjoerd Schurer) writes:
>> How many Skyclad fans are here on the net?
>
>Well, how many people posted to say, "Skyclad is better than Manowar!"?
>
>There's two fans at this address (won't be an address here much longer though).
>
>--Semhaza

That is a question that will be decided in a decade or two. As it is,
Skyclad remains "promising". Not bad though.

					--Judex--
PS: The "Skyclad is Better" posts were outnumbered by the "What are you talking
about, who is this Skyclad?" posts by quite a bit. Look it up!
Pax
					--Judex--

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From: kmahoney@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Keith Mahoney)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Ozzy Claus
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:45:23 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

Brent Bowman writes:


>	I heard one the funniest parodies I have ever heard the
>	other day...
>
>	The DJ announced it as, "Ozzy Claus", and proceded to
>	play it...
>
>	If anyone else has heard this, please let me know...
>
>	It was hilarious! If anyone has it on tape, I'd love to get a
>	copy of it!  
	Me too!  I think it was on the Columbus, Ohio radio station 99.7

	Keith Mahoney
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From: mfc1493@tamsun.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: MORE ON THIS SELLING OUT THING
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:44:29 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

>Put yourself in this position...
>
>Your in a band whose been playing for many years now and you have
>a very dedicated following.  You're able to live comfortably from
>the money that you make from record sales/promotional spots, etc, etc.
>
>Then one day you learn that you could possible make 10-20x as much
>cash if you just alter your songs/playing style so that it might
>appeal to a wider audience.
>
>It would be extremely tempting, don't you think?
>							Dave

Well....it depends.

First, it depends on your priorities. As a guitarist, music is my first
goal. Not fans, not money, not anything else. Just the music and my ability.
I must note on this that I am not in a band, nor do I have a recording
contract, or loyal following. So, my points may be deviant. But from what
I've heard a lot of bands *say*, whether they mean it or not (or practice
what they preach) is another story--but many *say* that it is the music
that counts for them. Metallica just to name one group. Now I know there are 
many who think that Metallica sold out...depends on your definition of
"sold out", I guess.

If you are living comfortably with what you are making in the first place--
"comfortable" being the key word--why bother to change for the money? 
$5 million is as good as $10 million in my opinion. I don't have $5 million, or
$10 milion, so maybe it is just too far beyond my grasp. But if that does
hold up, why change your style for the money when you take the chance of
alienating your loyal fans? I can understand, personally, changing your style
because you are tired of the current one, or to explore new areas, but not for
more money, when you have "enough" already.

I think what happens with a lot of metal bands, Metallica in particular, is
that, in the beginning, they are struggling to make it and they have the rough,
raw sound that shows it, i.e. "Kill 'Em All". After all, metal was a new
field of music at that time. There were no "Metallica"s that broke ground
before them. Once the door was opened, or broken down, and the market flooded
with metal, as it is today, things sort of quieted down for them a little.
They have money now, they are older, they are further removed from the source
of their roughness. So they "mellow out" a little. If they like the music they
play, then I can't ask for anything more. It's *their* music, at least in my
opinion. If I am not happy with the new music (take Yngwie Malmsteen, for
example) then I will stop listening to the new stuff and focus on the old,
supplimenting my need for new music with other groups.

Any comments?

Ratboy
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: bdkid@athena.mit.edu (Michael G Thomas)
Subject: Re: more metallica stuff..
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:29:07 GMT

I recently bought a three cd set called "The four Horseman" at a local shop that
sells promos & shit.  It is a three hour set played by Metallica at the
Meadowlands.  The sound is kinda shitty but listening to it is just like the
concert.  Has anyone else seen this?
From: pjb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Paul Bolle)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Riggs/Maiden Art (Was: Iron Maiden's FEAR OF THE DARK)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 14:45:05 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

rpr@st1-par.oce.nl (Rob Prikanowski) writes:

- In article <1992Dec17.220443.7592@njitgw.njit.edu> rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ra
- >	I think No Prayer is their weakest album.  The new Eddie is not done
- >by Riggs, tho he is thanked in the liner notes.  I heard that Riggs had a 
- >prior committment, so they needed a different artist.  Apparently everything
- >is still amicable, since they still thanked him.
- >	I, BTW, think the new artist's rendition sucks pretty bad.  Then again
- >nothing can compare to Rigg's work on the Stranger in a Strange Land single
- >cover ("The Android With No Name").
- 
- Anybody know if there is a book or something with the complete series of
- Eddies that Riggs (or others) did for Maiden? Not only the album covers, but
- also the ones you see on the various tour-shirts.
- 
- I would be very interested in such a collection. Although I am probably one o
- Maiden's first fans in the Netherlands (I got their first album as import, we
- before it was released here), I still see new Eddies from time to time. Most 
- these are from some 'special' shows they did (like the Canadian one).
- 
- Greetings, 
- 
- Rob Prikanowski
        Hey, if you find anything on Riggs' work, please gimme a shout, 
okay? I'm a great fan of the band and the artwork... 
Thanx...

Paul Bolle              pjb@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: Andrew_Miller@camelot.apana.org.au (Andrew Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Absolute best song title contest :)
Distribution: world
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:03:29 EST
Organization: The TOWER BBS

>Well, trolloping through the CD shoppe the other day, I came across my
>candidate for absolute best song title.  Here goes:
>
>Band : Autopsy
>
>SOng Title (drum roll please) : Necrocannibalistic Vomitorium
>
>(Runner up, from the same album/group) : Battery Acid Enema
>
>Thanks for playing ;)
>
>      THE MAN


 P> Here's mine: Tourniquet, "Pathogenic Ocular Dissonance", and that
 P> smash
 P> hit, "Gelatinous Tuburcles of Purulent Ossification"...

 P> What a band!


I'm not too sure about this one, but Cannibal Corpse have some rather
colourful song titles... one of the more imaginative ones I can remember
off the top of my head is "Entrails ripped from a virgin's cunt".
Delightful stuff! Anyway, they sound like a try-hard Carcass, so I dont
really give a shit.

     Me.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
From: ares@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Rees Harr Engelhardt)
Subject: Previous post
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:37:44 GMT


Alright, it seems my last (and first, for that matter) post was
misunderstood by certain members of this newsgroup, because they sent me
mindless e-mail like their accounts were about to expire...

My last post was NOT a general flame of alt.r-n-r.metal.heavy. I came here,
because all they seem to want to talk about at alt.r-n-r.metal is Def
Leppard's new stuff, Black Sabbath's old stuff, and Pearl Jam, et al. The
point of my post was that this idiotic "Metallica has sold out" flame war
has gone on long enough( 1.5 years fits my description of "long enough").
I read this group currently, because I am trying to find some new speed,
thrash, heavy, or death (basically any good metal, I guess) metal bands/
albums which don't constantly spout pseudo-satanic bullshit through my
speakers. I am not a religioud person... I'm agnostic, leaning towards
atheist. But as much as I HATE religious fanatics, I dislike bands with all
this pseud0 -satanic bullshit ,too. SO... the point is that I was wondering
if any of you either not involved in the Metallica flame war or able to
extract yourself from it for a while could clue me in on some powerful, non-
religious(either way), GOOD metal bands/albums (preferably with good decent
lyrics, too). Stuff I listen to now includes Metallica(older stuff mostly),
Megadeth(again, mostly older stuff, but I only have a few), Manowar,
Pantera, and I've heard some Overkill , Nuclear Assault, etc. I know most of
the bands mentioned above have become pretty mainstream, and that's why I
need suggestions... There aren't too many metal fans (that I know of ) here
at Hopkins... Any useful , INFORMATIVE suggestions would be appreciated...

Ares, God of War and Changing Majors
From: Andrew_Miller@camelot.apana.org.au (Andrew Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Metallica
Distribution: world
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:06:38 EST
Organization: The TOWER BBS

 SB> In article <Byw7BF.Cp3@cck.coventry.ac.uk> lsh078@cck.coventry.ac.uk
 SB> (Judge) writes:

 SB> (...stuff deleted about Metallica...)

>As far as I know they are in Australia area at the moment, and are due to
>finish the tour during the summer.

 SB> I don't know about the summer, but I don't think they're in Australia
 SB> -
 SB> they played here in Berlin, Germany, day before yesterday...

They certainly arent in Australia, they havent actually announced any
dates, let alone a month they WILL be out here, not that I'm going to see
them. THey have sucked since Cliff died.

     Me.

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From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Stuff....
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:22:26 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <Andrew_Miller.02m6@camelot.apana.org.au> Andrew_Miller@camelot.apana.org.au (Andrew Miller) writes:
>Well everyone... can someone write to me telling me that they really like
>Deicide!! I thikn they are the very worst band I have heard, and I dont
>beleive anyone can like them. Someone try to convince me otherwise.

I dunno.I heard coupla tunes from their first self tittled.Didn't impress
me at all.It wasn't extreme.Sounded like SEPULTURA's BENEATH THE REMAINS a bit.
I haven't heard LEGION yet, but I bet it's much weaker than DarkThrone's
"A BLAZE IN THE NORTHERN SKY".


Leonid,
             
              Boston,

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From: venom@csa.bu.edu (Leonid Makarovsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Monsters of Rock are Poseurs
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:38:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Yesterday I read abt black sabbath (original line-up) participating
on Monsters of Rock festival in Donington 1993.

Jesus fucking Christ, the bands that will play there will be:
Bon Jovi, Guns'N'Roses, Extreme and other pussy crap.
Holy shit. What the fuck these poseur bands have to do with MONSTERS of Rock?
                                                            ^^^^^^^^

Fuck these loooking_like_a_woman Bon Jovi, Guns'n'Poseurs and other pussy shit!


Why not Metallica or anything like that?


Leonid,
             
              Boston,

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