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From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs. AmigaOS (was Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon)
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:57:18 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>Which is exactly what I said. Some operating systems even let VM and
>realtime exist for the same task, though I'm not sure quite how.

You can lock some pages into memory.  Often, real-time programs
have only a few places that need to be real-time, so the particular
pages used in that area can be locked.

(Also, since real-time does not mean "fast", just "guaranteed maximum
operation time", you can afford a page hit if your maximum time
for an operation is 1 or 2 seconds...  Not that anyone would ever
do this, it's just an example to show that slow speed doesn't
contradict the definition of real-time)

>Yup, and it's an example of the realtime/VM systems. As I said, they do
>exist.

Well, VMS systems that use real-time usually aren't used as
a general purpose machine anymore.  It's also debatable whether
or not the real-time "os" and the normal "os" are the same.

>> Even with no VM,
>> task A can be done in by task B, unless task be is suspended.
>
>Not true. If that were the case, there would be no such thing as
>realtime.

If B is more important than A, and an interrupt for B arrives,
then A had better get suspended, or be guaranteed to suspend
itself before B misses its interrupt deadline.

>> I think we all can agree on what real time is.  The question before us
>> is why you think AmigaOS is real time and OS/2 is not.

Urk, are people still calling Amiga real-time?

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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:05:24 GMT

>>How about comparing the same 2 programs...?  There is no Links Amiga Pro so
>>why compare Links 386 Pro to Links?  Maybe we'll get Links AA_Amiga Pro or
>>something.
>
>Or how about EGS/Rembrandt pro?

	You guys are dreaming if you think Access is going to support a market
  as small as AA Amiga's or EGS/Rembrandt equipped Amiga's.  Of course if
  Commodore sells the AA chipset Amigas for a reasonable price this could
  change, but that in itself is another dream.  

							G.Greene


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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:28:03 GMT

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
: There certainly could be.  PCMCIA 2.0 supports I/O mapped registers, which is
: all you need for the MC56001 or several of the other low-end DSPs from folks
: like TI, AMD, or AT&T.  Add to that a small amount of SRAM and an audio
: quality CODEC and you're off and running.  I don't know if anyone would 
: bother to build a PCMCIA DSP card, but it's no big technical challenge.

:)

Oops.  Okay, so there can be one.  :)  I didn't think PCMCIA would be
able to handle that.

Post retracted.  :)

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:44:27 GMT

kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
: One of the planned third-party 'peripherals' for the Falcon030's 
: processor-direct slot is an external 'bus cage' (an external box
: with several VMEbus and/or other-type bus slots), so it *WILL* be
: able to handle more than a single peripheral card.

But there's a slight problem:  The other third party "peripherals"
being designed are FOR that "processor direct slot".  They won't work
with the cage...  Which gives it even less of a base than the PDS will
have.

Greg

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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:32:35 GMT
X-Posted-From: connection.prospect.com
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <etxansk.715264903@garbod20> etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se writes:
>
>You may be right about resolution and colour, but when it comes
>to animation - isn't animation, scrolling etc on a VGA PC a joke?
>

VGA is capable of very good animation; it just requires some assembly
language tricks that are only now becoming widely known.  For example, take
a look at Wolfenstein 3D and Commander Keen (parts 4 - 6).  These may not
be the greatest games ever created, but they clearly demonstrate that VGA
is quite capable of smooth scrolling and animation.

One of the problems is the standard 256-color 320x200 VGA display.  There
is no standard way of having multiple display pages in this mode.  The result
is that most games which run in this mode have pretty graphics, but choppy
and flickery animation.

Fortunately, there are ways to program the VGA into non-standard display modes.
These techniques are new, and there are very few games which take advantage of
them.  They offer tremendous performance advantages for animation, as well as
multiple display pages.  Wolfenstein 3D is a game which uses one of these
"tweaked" VGA modes.

>
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From: kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: JEFF YOUNG, BEND OVER!
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:51:55 PST
Organization: Sacramento Amiga Computer Club - Sacramento, CA

In article <1992Aug28.145661.87465@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bb@nyx.cs.du.edu (BIFF BUTTCHEEKS) writes:
> JEFF YOU YOUNG TASTY ATARI ST'ER YOU!  BEND OVER AND LEMME PUT
> A LITTLE LOVE IN YOUR LIFE!


This particular article made me laugh and laugh and then laugh some more!
God, that was funny!  :-) :-) :-)


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From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does the AmigaOS pre-emptively multitask?
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:16:41 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>Does all this mean that the AmigaOS does not have pre-emptive
>multitasking?  If a programmer can design his application to tie
>up the system, does this mean that the system is not strictly
>pre-emptive?

Hmm, strictly speaking, yes.  But it shouldn't really matter anyway.
If you feel you can *only* use a *strictly* multitasking system,
then remove these functions (and learning how to do so will be
educational).  But lots of things may crash and burn.

I guess I don't understand the point of the question.  I haven't run
across a multitasking OS yet that does not have someway for a bad
program to tie up the entire system (possibly requiring extra
permissions).
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From: kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Zorro III cards? (was: 80,000,000 pc's)
Distribution: na
Reply-To: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 26 Aug 92 09:54:21 PST
Organization: Sacramento Amiga Computer Club - Sacramento, CA

In article <1992Aug26.054757.21334@athena.mit.edu> fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.025236.2140@grebyn.com>, richk@grebyn.com (Richard Krehbiel) writes:
> |> In article <1992Aug25.154855.10826@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:

> |> There are Zorro III cards available?  What are they?
> 
> PP&S RAM board for the A3000, and the DMI 34020 board(if it really exists)
> are Zorro III.  Maybe Rembrandt is too?
                        ^^^^^^^^^ Should be RamBrandt, and no, it's not a
Zorro-III board.

I believe the AmeriStar 1610 (??) Graphics card is also Zorro-III only.

> |> Richard Krehbiel                                 richk@grebyn.com
> |> OS/2 2.0 will do for me until AmigaDOS for the 386 comes along...
> 
> Francis

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From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Subject: Re: Industry News
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 18:32:04 GMT


GAME MAKER POSTS 2ND QUARTER LOSS
(The Register-Guard, Eugene, OR, August 29, 1992, p. 7B)

   SUNNYVALE, Calif. - Atari Corp. lost $39.7 million during the second
quarter, largely because of charges stemming from a reorganization, the 
computer and video game company said Friday.

[From news service reports]


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From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: ** new amigas **
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:25:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.1076.27251@dosgate> "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com> writes:
>
> <1992Aug20.190306.12564@newshost.unh.edu>
>
>>[I heard these rumours on the net - read at own peril]
>>
>>A600        68000+ECS+KS3.0       $199 US
>>A800        68020+AA+KS3.0            $399 US
>>A1000jr  68020+AA+KS3.0+HD            $650 US
>>A3400         68030+AA+KS3.0+HD           ???? US
>>
>
>GG> Wow, these are amazing prices.  I hope it turns out to be true.
>
> Yes and I also heard you can buy any American state for only $129.99. If you
>buy this week you get a free landmark with every purchase!
>---

	I plan to buy part of Route 347 through the Adopt a Highway program.
And I will go dig potholes and stuff so that my auto repair business will
pick up!



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From: 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: No Figs in the Apple Newton
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:31:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.015301.16333@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.004948.21129@ra.msstate.edu> ada@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Sunga Rettaf) writes:
>>In article <kdarling.715298464@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes:
>>>jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
>>>>TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>>
>><< Legal discussion deleted >>
>>
>>>I believe that ATT and someone else is coming up with a line of PDAs
>>>to compete with Apple's Newton... only theirs are called "Hobbits"!
>>>Wonder if they'll have to pay for that name?
>>
>>Will Commodore be offering a PDA of any sort?  It might be difficult
>>for them to develop a hand-held Amiga compatible, but they might at
>>least offer something which uses the many IFF files available.
> 
>    Apple invested has invested a great deal of money in a manufacturer of 
> low-power RISC microprocessors in developing the Newton.  Apple has also 
> devoted a sizable amount of their $200+ Million per year R&D budgets in
> developing the Newton.  With Commodore's R&D budgets hovering around 
> $25 million or less, I can tell you now that the answer to the question of
> whether or not Commodore will develop a PDA is clearly "NO".
> 
>>Sunga Rettaf
> 
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	Gee, unless my english has skipped town on me, a recent issue of 
MacWorld had a "review" of the Newton.

	Although they had the programming down, according to this article, the 
newton that was on the cover that they were "reviewing" was just an empty case.

	Granted, Apple might be working on the chips and have this sketching
recognition software working, but I woldn't bet on seeing any finished machines
until next year.



		Kyle
From: Gleeep@cup.portal.com (Dave - Silon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Just what we need!
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 15:20:07 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Aug25.205601.16559@news.iastate.edu>

>Marc Barrett writes:
>I have been wanting to get back into HAM radio...
	
This is it!  All we need is the bowl of moldering animal corn and we're
all set!  Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere TRUSSY... SOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUEEEEEEEYYY
PIG PIG PIG...
	
- Gleeep
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From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 06:42:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.030347.15327@klaava.Helsinki.FI> lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
>jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:

>: How many lies can you put into one posting?? Developer said 030/040
>: and video upgrade can be made CHEAP and easy for Falcon.  WHERE is
>: cheap boards and cards for A3000 and A600? People want cheap hardware
>: not cheap vapor!
>
>Finally I found the way to use "kill files" with this news reader - no
>longer do I have to read these redicilous but not funny messages from
>Jeff Very Young or whatever his/it's real name is.

>Jarkko Lindblad
>lindblad@cc.helsinki.fi

	Is there a site that archives advocacy posts? I would like to get
together a collection of posts just for Jeff Young, to keep the memories
alive when he is away at school. I can't believe that you think he is
not funny. You DEEP DODO!!


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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:23:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.142859.4788@newshost.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:

[ ]
>
> 	Although I don't have an MPC system, the SBPro is still great for
>  games IMHO.  Especially the games that specifically support the Pro version.
>  One card that you didn't mention was the Gravis Ultrasound, it is supposed
>  to have been released today.  From reading the soundcard groups, it sounds
>  pretty good.  Electronic Arts is selling them for $99.

I didn't mention the Ultrasound card (which by all accounts would be the 
best PC audio card available for the price- virtually Turtle Beach's card
for 1/5 the price) simply because we've had them on order for what seems to
be years. Every month Gravis has been delaying the release date. They were
beginning to sound like AdLib. Until I can actually buy one, I won't consider
it a retail product.

Now as far as the SBPro goes, for some games under DOS it may ve fine, but then
the ATI Sound/fx is equally good and much less expensive. Using an MPC
computer makes the SBPro sound terrible. Try listening to KQV and Mixed
up Mother Goose ( under Windows and using the SB's MPC CD-ROM) and then play
the same games from the CD-ROM under DOS. In the Windows' case the board's
sound is jerky. It works fine under DOS.
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
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Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:11:34 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:18:01 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:18:01 GMT, jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) said:


> In article <1992Aug17.204104.25763@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>>
>>(I was referring to the A600 not having a socket for the 68881/2,
>>because it wouldn't work on a 68000 anyways...)

> Problem not with missing 68881 socket. Problem is A600 missing 68030 chip!
>>
>>: Falcon is AT LEAST 4 X faster than A600 and includes much much much
>>: more so price of A600 is very poor value.  Compare to Falcon then
>>: A600 should be almost free.
>>
>>Or at least 1/2 the price.  And it's there.

> Sorry people mailed me and said Falcon 32 mhz DSP 20 TIMES faster
> than A600 so now 1/2 price divided by 20 == $30 MAX!

Bollocks. Compare the systems speeds, not the speed of the DSP on
one with the COU on the other.

> Stores in England REFUSING to sell A600 because so many software
> breaking.  When A600 starts selling here C= many people will  
> complain too. 

Bollocks.

> TIME?! A600 cannot even keep time because CLOCK NOT INCLUDED!!
> Only thing included with A600 is HIGHEST price tag of all game
> machines.  No wonder England people refusing to buy A600!

Bollocks.

>>You shallow idiot.  Nearly EVERY personal computer sold by Apple and
>>the A2000/A3000/A3000T have a processor slot.  They've had them for
>>years.

> You deep dodo! WHERE is direct slot on A600? 

Since when is the A600 one of "A2000/A3000/A3000T"?

>>The point is, only Falcon developers will develop for that "processor
>>slot".  PCMCIA cards are being developed by IBM and PC-hardware
>>companies as WELL as Amiga developers.

> Point is only on you head! vAApor cards not selling so hot!!
                             ^^^^^^
Is this a reference to the AA chipset, which is nothing to do with
PCMCIA, or just incompetent spelling?
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From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: A4000 Rumors...
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 07:15:06 GMT

In article <u894776.714888324@bruny> u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
>cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams) writes:
>
>>If the AA chipset is expensive, C= will be trying to reduce prices of
>>other components. 
>
>Frankly from what I have read, I don't see how the AA chipset can be
>particularly expensive at all.  From most `information' posted, it
>would seem that it consists of two new chips.  And from the sounds of
>the performance - most likely 1.6 micron cmos, would be used.  Also it
>doesnt sound like much development would have been required for the chips -
>except obviously a fair amount of work to retain the ECS register mode.  

Since the original chips were in NMOS, I imagine it was quite a bit
of work to move to CMOS, hence the huge delay.  Marc has mentioned that
C= needed to build a new plant especially for these chips too, but
I don't know his sources.

I doubt the chips themselves would be too expensive to produce, but
C= will be trying to recoup what little R&D they've spent developing
them.

>Now
>if we were talking about the AAA chipset... things would be a little different.
>[I just hope to god, real support for upgrading from AA -> AAA is provided.]

Oh no, not AAA rumours already!

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From: easton@zds-oem.mi04.zds.com (Jeff Easton)
Subject: Doug Barney Surfaces
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:27:21 GMT

  In todays Infoworld (Aug 31) Doug Barney of Amiga World fame showed up
as a contributer to a front page article entitled "Microsoft Blasted For
Hidden Windows Code"  which talks about Microsoft using hidden system
calls in its Windows applications.

  On page 42 of the same issue under the heading of 'Electronic Mail',
they make the bold statment "Internet:  This distributed network of 
computers gives outside access to every single person at Infoworld.  To
address a message to an individual at Infoworld, use the following form:
firstname_lastname@infoworld.com

  Good luck trying to reach him.  As of a week or so ago, mail to that
address bounced...

  Maybe he reads the comp.sys.amiga groups now.  :-)


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