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From: mrmike@michelotti.ae.ge.com ("Mr. Mike" Passaretti)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: Sexuality
Date: 1 Jan 93 00:17:04 GMT
Reply-To: Mike Passaretti <passaretti@crd.ge.com>
Organization: GE Aircraft Engines, Cincinnati OH


# In message <1hv3rbINN58r@hp-col.col.hp.com>, 
# smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:

[...]
walter> Not worthy of life?  Get a grip.  If that were the
walter> case, you wouldn't be able to openly post that you are
walter> gay and live to tell about it.  That is just plain
walter> *absurd*.  There's no doubt that homosexuality is
walter> looked down upon, but 'not worthy of life'??  And
walter> comparing Nazi-Jew with Christian-Gay?  Ppfftt...  How
walter> can you possibly believe so many people hate you to
walter> that degree, and not lose your sanity?  If 'homophobe'
walter> is considered an appropriate term for someone who
walter> 'dislikes' homosexuality, then there needs to be a
walter> stronger term for those who have paranoid delusions
walter> that Christians think you're not worthy of life, and
walter> would do to you what the Nazis did to the Jews.  If
walter> that isn't paranoid-phobic.....................

There is a gentleman in my work group who is a devout
Christian, widely regarded as the most serene and joyful
person here.  Several other Christians locally hold him up as
an ideal of love and tolerance.  He and I have been
acquaintances for several years now, and talk frequently about
life, politics and religion.  Recently we got into a
discussion of homosexuality and gay bashing and he produced
this pearl of wisdom, the words of which are seared in my
brain forever as an example of how wrong appearances can be...

"I don't care what gays do, as long as they don't try to teach
children.  I'm not to happy about them serving food in
restaurants either."

< Hmm.  Ok, whatever.  But what about violence?>

Me: "But you don't think they should be killed, do you?"

"No...  But I wouldn't mind putting them all on a boat to
Antarctica or Cuba.  Or if they all just disappeared or
something, that would be good..."

"<insert stunned look>"

He and I still speak, but I don't really think we could ever
be friends.  He may not have said he wanted them dead (He's
far too smart to fall into that trap), but there's not much
difference between that and saying you'd send them off to
Antarctica, now is there?  I'm still not sure what to think
about the Cuba bit, and the food thing is just plain stupid.

walter> Walter
                                                        - MM

Who thinks that you cannot love that which you refuse to be close to.
Holding gays at arms length and saying "I love you, but hate
what you are and do" isn't love, it's hypocrisy of the worst kind...
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From: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov (Michael W. Rowland)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: SEX THREAD
Date: 31 Dec 1992 16:40:58 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA 23681  USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov (Michael W. Rowland)
NNTP-Posting-Host: zorba7.larc.nasa.gov

Take the sex arguments to another newsgroup, please.  That's
where they belong, really.  This group has lots of other
things to talk about and is already very crowded.

Thank you--really,

Mike

Mike Rowland (Contractor),  MS 475
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA 23681
internet: rowland@zorba7.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young)
Subject: Re: Kicked out of a.f.d-q?  I don't think so
In-reply-to: aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu's message of 21 Dec 1992 15:03:07 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
	<1gl52rINN4mf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <m0iVVB6w165w@mantis.co.uk>
	<1992Dec17.072428.9152@cs.com> <1h4mbcINN1ov@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:59:44

In article <1h4mbcINN1ov@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vern Morrison) writes:

>	   I've never before heard anyone claim to have been kicked out of 
>   an unmoderated newsgroup.  This ludicrous assertion shows you for the
>   bonehead you truly are.  Have a nice day.

Maybe if you ask nice, Ted will tell you how they managed it.  He
won't answer any of my questions.  We really should be nicer to Ted;
he's so much fun to read if you don't take him too seriously.

Damn!  I really _am_ going to stop posting to and about Ted.  Really.
--
Peter Young
young@erim.org
From: catstyle@cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu (Jason R. Heimbaugh)
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh GIFs Please
Reply-To: jrh@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:33:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.191605.6419@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>  
jbuckner@lonestar.utsa.edu (James A. Buckner) writes:
> Ladies and gentlemen, the GIF is on Compuserve, in the Rush Limbaugh
> section of the issues forum. The file is HUGE (500K) so I couldn't
> download it from my house (long-distance call) If anyone would be so  
kind
> as to put it on a site (maybe cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu) where we can get
> it, then it would be a blessing.

I don't have a Compuserve account, so if someone would ftp it to
cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu /pub I'll make it available via anon ftp.

--
Jason R. Heimbaugh (CatStyle)
jrh@uiuc.edu
"If I leave here tomorrow, would you still remember me?" --Ronnie Van Zant
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:34:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.075957.19167@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>]
>] I read this and was sickened by it.  All I've got to say is that's what
>] the death penalty is for.  I honestly hope those three killers get the
>] gas chamber, no appeals.
>]
>] Call me crude, but something must be done.
>]
>] Simon
>]
>
>
>thanks simon, I was often confused about
>your commitment to the sanctity of all human life....

This is precisely why I feel that these murderers should be executed.

Simon

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show,talk.abortion
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:34:47 GMT
Distribution:  world
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <C007FI.Fun@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (JIM GRAHAM) writes:
|> Without admitting to whether I'm pro-life or pro-abortion, I
|> have to say that whenever these jokes we call "social programs"
|> become truly fair, I'll consider this a valid argument.
|> 
|> I personally know at least four families who are more interested in
|> sucking blood from these programs than getting jobs and becoming
|> responsible.
|> 
|> One of them actually sells their foodstamps to others.
|> 
|> This all makes me sick, and when my tax dollars are spent on those
|> who truly need them, rather than the welfare society that our know-it-all
|> liberals have created, I'll be the first to use the above argument.

First of all, I didn't see Reagan, Bush, Ford, or Nixon trying
to reform the welfare laws.  They are a product of both parties.

Second, fraud is not as prevalent in these programs as you would
think, but it is a problem.

The real problem with our welfare system is that it "traps" people
into a cycle of poverty, from which they cannot emerge.  Many people
cannot afford to live on welfare.  So they seek out a job.  If they
can find one, it pays less than welfare does, and it will probably
cause them to lose their welfare benefits.  So they stay out of work
because they have kids to feed.  I think that this is one of the 
problems at the base of America's decline.  People are unable to 
work or can't find a job.  They are unable to raise their children
with the values that they were raised with.  I think that the number
of people strong willed enough to never want to work and leech off 
of society is smaller than you think.

When you give people jobs, you give them dignity.  With dignity, they
can raise their children right, pass on morals and help keep a sense
of order in our society.

How are we going to do this?  I don't know, but until we figure it 
out, these people have to eat somehow.  Welfare was never meant to
be a permanent program, and it has not worked well in the long run.


Jared Dahl
Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.
Don't send e-mail - I won't get it.
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Prediction: Rush Limbaugh has hit his peak; He will
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:17:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>I don't use the "everyone in the USA except the Democrats" argument, but
>I do cite the recalcitrant Democrats' calls to "let sanctions work." Of
>course, regarding bearing the costs of the Gulf War, well, the whole
>world would have eventually had to bear the price for allowing Iraq to
>have control over Kuwait; just imagine our "recession" with gas prices
>at +$1.20 than currently now.

Based on what do you say this?   Oil prices climbed to $40/barrel after
the invasion in Aug. 90, but by December 90, they were back down to
$20/barrel.  Gasoline costs more today than it did before the
war.  (Look at the pump .... $1.49 for super unleaded)  You can't prove
that the war had anything to do with gas prices.   The other oil 
countries jacked up production to make up for the lack of Iraqi
oil and still do, as sanctions are still in place against Iraq.

>As for Clinton's statement, "that if it were a close vote, I would vote
>for the majority but agree [with the arguments of] the minority" does
>not make him an exemplary political moderate in my book. It shows me
>that given a challenge to his political principles, he will make every
>effort to save his political career rather than stand on his political
>principles. That's not a moderate, that's political selfishness.

Who is to say what Clinton's principles were on the war?   Why are you
saying that he was not standing on them?  Were you reading his mind?


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.warlord,alt.good.news,alt.music.rush
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: RUSH?
Reply-To: mdw@tc.cornell.edu
In-reply-to: pvs9@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de's message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:29:29 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
	<1992Dec18.102929.24079@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 11:38:08 EST

In article <1992Dec18.102929.24079@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> pvs9@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (Praktikum Verteilte Systeme) writes:

>I don't know Rush Limbaugh (I'm from the other side of the pond) and the movie
>'Rush', but I am certain that the CDs you mention have to do with neither Rush
>Limbaugh nor the movie. They are from a Canadian progressive rock band named
>_Rush_. They are simplay marvellous. Don't ask. Buy them !

There's a musician from Syracuse named Rush Tattered. He's a truly
Excellent kazooist who has played with the likes of the Water Street
Boys and the Colorblind James Experience. Is he in this band??

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From: merlyn@digibd.digibd.com (Merlyn LeRoy)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Soul of the Republican Party
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:25:02 GMT
Organization: DigiBoard, Incorporated, Eden Prairie,MN

dlhanson@nap.amoco.com (David L. Hanson) writes:
>Actually, while President of the United States, Jefferson also became first
>president of the Washington, D.C. public school board, which used the
>Bible and Watt's Hymnal as reading texts in the classroom - well subsequent
>to the adoption of the First Amendment. According to Jefferson:
> 
>  I have always said, and always will say, that the studious perusal of
>  the sacred volume will make us better citizens. 

Did he use his rewrite of the bible?  You know, the one Jefferson published
with all the miracles removed...

>The first amendment has only been "stepped on" in this century by the
>enemies of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Ah, the old "my enemies are god's enemies" bit; sorry, I don't believe 
in your pretend friend.

---
Merlyn LeRoy
From: miaoh@carson.u.washington.edu (Hanjin Miao)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Info needed: Rush Limbaugh's Radio program in Seattle?
Date: 3 Jan 1993 12:24:45 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

Is Rush Limbaugh's radio show broadcasted in Settle area?
Thank you for your help.

miaoh@u.washington.edu
From: ryanm@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ryan Mcneilly)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Whining bastards
Date: 30 Dec 1992 21:18:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article <1992Dec30.181412.6382@wdl.loral.com> bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com writes:
>I wouldn't be so pissy about this if you dittoheads would just admit
>that you simply don't want the poor to receive any help whatsoever
>from the government.  Jeez.  At least the Libertarians can do that.
>Get some spine, you simpering fools.
>
>
>-- 
>+---------------------------+  ``Man has not a single right which is
>| J H Woodyatt              |  the product of anything but might.''
>| bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com |                           -- Mark Twain
>+---------------------------+  
>


You don't seem to understand that we conservitives (most) do care about
the poor, hungry, and homeless.  We just don't think the Fed Gov should
solve the problem by throughing in  money and socialistic jobs.  Instead
we give through private organizations or directly to bypass the waste and
fraud that has run rampid through congress and the white house.

I think many would agree (correct me if I am wrong) that a small tax hike
would be tollerable if the money actually went to the hungry and homeless,
especially the children.  The parents should get vocational training
instead of a dinkey pay nothing job where they are stuck.  Only after they
have skills usefull to this country will they be usefull.  --Ryan

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
  Ryan McNeilly                    Internet: ryanm@u.washington.edu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

"You can't deal from a position of weakness"  --Alfred Thayer Mahan
Moral:  Protect the 2nd Amendment!

My comments and opinions are my own and nobody elses!!!!!

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: So, anyone want to talk about Rush Limbaugh around here?
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:01:26 GMT

[...]  All that (68 lines) to say YEAH NATHAN!!! ?

  (..)  ~~

Seriously, though, I wish Rush would start "acting up" again so there was
something to talk about. I just saw his second appearance on
Pozner/Donahue and he was a true gentleman. So was Pozner. Donahue was, of
course, an ass.

Limbaugh said something fairly interesting, which confirmed what I have
felt all along. He told Phil that he wasn't really like that (referring to
allegations the effect that Rush was a close-minded bigot) *but* that he did
whatever was he felt was necessary to keep and enlarge his audience.  (And
obviously it works for Rush!)

By the by, the golden voice of Rush's substitute (Jim ??) is pleasant and
makes me think of him as more of a moderate conservative. But: you have to
admit that Rush is just a lot more interesting to listen to.

L.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
Subject: Re: Humphrey/Mondale
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:40:46 GMT

The Grim Reaper (scythe@hardy.u.washington.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec14.075702.12428@mr.med.ge.com> gorney@picard.med.ge.com (Felix Gorney Mfg 4-6983) writes:
: >like Jim and Tammy Baker. The fact is, however, most churches are in debt up to
: >their steeple.
: >
: >
: >Felix Gorney
: >
: >
: > -- 
: >: These opinions are usually my own, sometimes my dog's,
: >: occasionaly my (grown) children's, never my employer's.
: 
: The reason most liberals (tm) think of evangelists as representing
: all Christians (also tm) is because the right-wing conservatives
: allow the evangelists to represent themselves as the voice of America.

Just like Clinoccio's cabinet represents america?  A perfect parallel,
because both assertions are false...  Someone like Pat Robertson simply
has a large audience of likely voters for conservative candidates.  As
the polling data showed, for example, those who voted based upon the
abortion issue were almost 100% conservatives.  It is simply hard to find
a democrat to vote for who shared their opinions...  Unlike the democrats,
the republicans simply allowed people of significance to speak, whether
they represented the majority of the party or not.  Have you EVER watched
the 700 Club?  I tune in for the news about twice a year, and I found it
surprising that they showed stories about police brutality against Gay
protestors in SF and put a negative (anti-police) slant on it.  SUrprise!

: Remember "family values"?  WHere do you think that came from?  

Hubert H. Humphrey.

: The televangelists and right-wingers like Pat Robertson, who use religion
: as an excuse to further their own political agenda (and their $$).

If you have an open mind, consider that Robertson is simply interested in
countering the massive waves of anti-religious activism of recent decades.
It is ok for anti-religious agenda  pushers to use political means to further
their ends, right?

: But I think churches (and synogogues, and mosques...) should not be taxed,
: for a very simple reason- "No taxation without representation".  Remember
: that?  One of those founding principles of America thingys?  The founding
: fathers wanted this to be a free country.  Separation of church and state,
: and all that.  So the simplest way to keep churches from being able
: to be active in politics is to take away their taxes.  No taxation, no
: representation.  Anyone who wants churches to be taxed, but agree
: to let them have a political agenda.
:

This makes little sense.  Where in the constitution is it prohibited for
a church member to vote?  Or for that matter, how is a church less represented
by government than, say, IBM?  The real answer is double-taxation and the
concept of charitable contributions... 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: patrick@growler.owlnet.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Kicked out of a.f.d-q?  I don't think so
Organization: Those really nice people in ONCS, of course.
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	<1992Dec17.072428.9152@cs.com> <1h4mbcINN1ov@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
	<nate.960@psygate.psych.indiana.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:59:22 GMT

In article <nate.960@psygate.psych.indiana.edu> nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:

   aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vern Morrison) writes:
   >krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) says:
   >>If you lefties think that this is a contradiction, you should spend some 
   >>time over on alt.fan.dan.quayle.  I got kicked out of that group because I
   >>didn't think that dan is as dumb as the media portrays him.

   >        I've never before heard anyone claim to have been kicked out of 
   >an unmoderated newsgroup.

       This is admittedly the first time I've ever heard anyone make that 
   claim as well, but I've seen a couple of cases in which hordes of people 
   have posted "requests" for other dissenting persons to butt out and leave 
   a group until they have "learned" more appropriate opinions. Consider the 
   case of Steve Chaney or Jack Schmidling. Basically these two guys have 
   gotten unpopular enough that they can no longer hold fruitful discussions 
   here because people are so busy berating them for past transgressions or 
   trying to put words in their mouthes in order to create new offenses. Both 
   of these individuals have been effectively "kicked out".

Really?  It seems to me that the individuals in question made their own
decision to leave.  They could have stayed, but they didn't.  In case you're
too busy defending them to notice, those two you mentioned can't hold a
worthwhile discussion for one basic reason:  they have no interest in
holding one in the first place.  

   >This ludicrous assertion shows you for the bonehead you truly are.

       Merry Christmas to you, too.

I should hope so.

   >Have a nice day.

       Ditto.

It'd be nicer if you'd bother learning just what the two people you're
defending did to earn their reputation...

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