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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:35:04 EST
From:         Frank <ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Frank Mc Exists
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>From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
>
>Frank,
>
>You may use me in any way you deem <appropriate>, anytime, anywhere.
>
>-abh

LOFIADF.

(That the acronym for Lying On the Floor In A Dead Faint.)

F.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:19:16 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: This should make you laughable
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Brad, Brad, Brad.  How can our esteemed list scribe not realize that
those funny translations (plus others) have been in list ftp space since
the very beginning of list ftp space.  They're in docs/words-l/Funnies.
Filename is translations.

(But you still made me laugh.  Some of those are my favorites.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:35:21 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cincinnati dialect: Update
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Combining chocolate and cinnamon is common in Mexican cooking - Mexico
Mexican cooking as opposed to TexMex cooking - isn't it?

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:37:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Another Contest
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> Besides, my mother never watches Saturday Night Live and has not seen
> _Wayne's World_, so the likelihood of her talking this way is pretty close
> to non-existent.
>
> -----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)------------

I wish *I* had a daughter who would come to my defense as eloquently
as this.   But I *know* that nan is a SNL junkie and has spent years
going to great lengths hiding this information from her daughter.
--ggs (who thought Wayne's World was the *stupidest* movie ever
       made and did not laugh *once*.....)
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:29:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      SNL and Homoderrogory
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I'm wondering if anyone thought the SNL skit last night
about homosexuals in the military was funny?  I thought it
was dull, tasteless, and embarrassingly homophobic, quite
unlike the Gay Lite commercial that they did last year,
making fun of the Bud Lite advertisements, which was genuinely
funny (probably because the Bud Lite swimming-pool-full-of-bunnies
commercials are so stupid).  Why haven't the G/L activists
complained about the stuff that SNL does?
--ggs
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:13:19 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A few words on Alien
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU wrote:

> This is great stuff! Anne.  How would you analyze the sequel Aliens (1986),
> especially the climax, which Pauline Kael calls "The Battle of the Big
> Mamas"?

I'd say that in Aliens Ripley is reconciling her conflicted desires to
remain sterile and to become a mother. She continues the thread of
battling an oppressive uberclass, and reasserts her identity as amazon
warrior par excellance, a woman who needs neither sexual comforts or peer
group affirmation to validate her own identity. She is Paglia's perfect
"woman alone."

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 10:49:53 EST
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      The Dead shall rise again
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More on the Colorado thing... Anne Haycock might be especially interested
in this.



 The Well Deadheads have come up with a way of protesting the anti-gay
 initiative that passed in Colorado.  (I call that the missing tooth in
 the grin that broke out across the country November 3 :^)

 A few months ago, in anticipation of going to Oregon during the campaign
 to block their vicious anti-gay initiative, we came up with a sticker and
 t-shirt design: the "stealie" with a pink triangle where the lightning
 bolt used to be and "Ain't no time to hate" across the top.  Well, Veneta
 was cancelled and the Oregon initiative failed, but now we find ourselves
 heading for Colorado with a strong sense of outrage.

 So we've decided to buy a billboard at or near McNichols.  It will feature
 the "Ain't no time to hate" logo and the words   UNDO 2   plus the names
 of the sponsoring organizations (including "Deadheads Against Discrimination,"
 the ad-hoc entity that's handling the fundraising for this billboard).


 Here's the collection address for contributions to the
 Denver billboard project:

       Deadheads Against Discrimination
       2888 Bluff Street, Suite 496
       Boulder, CO 80301


 Make checks payable to Deadheads Against Discrimination, or D.A.D.

 Any money left over will be given to one or more of the organizations
 in Colorado that are fighting to prevent this dreadful measure from being
 implemented (or to get it repealed or declared unconstitutional).

 We've got several professional PR people on our team and we're expecting
 to get national coverage for this.

 - --

        David Gans      tnf@well.sf.ca.us
                        {apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:00:30 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blast From The Past (Long!)
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> *400*? Where ever did they get the time?
> A

I don't know.  Do you think perhaps they use/used a notebook computer
hooked up to a mobile phone?  Can that be done?
Doris
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:34:11 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Who was at the party...
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Leah brought some tuna pate and red wine; Blommie (who tells
me his name is pronounced "Bloomberg"...Neal, is this true?)
brought white wine; Ann Mandi brought a killer cheesecake,
with homemade jam to put over it; Frank brought chips and
salsa, and seltzer (or did he bring the apple juice?); Jenna
and The Marine brought chicken-artichoke pizza (!) and chocolate
cake with raspberry filling and whipped cream frosting; Judith
stirfried a selection of meat and vegetables, with noodles;
Judith's neighbor, Anne R. brought a chocolate fudge mousse
cake(!), Elva and Bob (Frank's advisor, remember?) brought
salad; Elaine and Grant brought huge gorgeous shrimp and red
sauce; Lisa-from-URI brought a huge pan of ziti with sausage;
and Don brought incredible potato skins with an Indonesian
peanut filling, and seltzer (maybe he also brought the apple
juice?). Who *did* bring the apple juice?

We used up all the paper plates and most of the paper napkins
from the clambake, and I do not have a single clean fork or
teaspoon in the house...got to run the dishwasher!

I was going to post the date and time, so the MA and CT people
could think of coming, but someone said, "Remember the plumbing,"
and I didn't...

Great party...let's do it again...

love, judith
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:35:01 -0600
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: All this croning stuff
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1992, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> About what?  About making me think that it's more socially acceptable
> to have a croning celebration at age 56 than at age 50?  I'm rather
> disappointed at the thought of having to wait that long.  I was getting
> excited about the event.

That's not what I said.  I just said that different people use different
events to commemorate "cronehood" and that there's a different rite of
passage for celebrating middle age than the onset of old age and that
maybe everybody on here is not after the same thing.

You can have a croning whenever you want; I won't send the Witch police
after you... :)

>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:20:32 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Nude Dude
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              Rouvalis" at Nov 20, 92 10:28 pm

> Well, you just have to say, "Only on Usenet."  Today saw the creation of
> alt.fan.naked-guy.  Apparently, Mr. Martinez's nudist tendencies are
> being mimicked now just because the president of the school outlawed
> running around nekkid.  I like it.

I heard that there's a plan for a whole bunch of folks to attend the next
football game dressed like Mr. Martinez.  That would be pretty wild.

rashmi
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:23:27 EST
From:         KYL120@URIACC.URI.EDU
Subject:      Re: Real BWP Stats

Well, I have no bandwith status so, in an effort to add to my measly number I
will follow Alecs lead and add my thoughts on favorite beverages.
Milk: nasty, never drink it
White wine: with a nice inner, I'll drink it
Beer: Heineken Dark when I'm at school Mr. Mikes Light Ale or Elm City when I'm
at home.

There, now add that to the ones I alreay have and I'll only be 300 away from
the Ultimate Pig award.
                       lisa
From: AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior)
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Date: 15 Nov 92 16:25:29 GMT
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>Rather than answer the 5 or 6 posts in this thread, I'll take this as
>representative of them all.  What you are all saying is that there is
>no infrastructure in the US to support less use of private transport.
>This is exactly the point I was making.  Further, it is a political
>decision on the part of your governments over the years that will be
>very hard to undo.

I didn't mean to kick off this thread about people and their buggies, but it's
been entertaining.  I don't know whether public transport would be more
"efficient" than what there is at the moment.  But Graham makes the only, itsy
bitsy point I was trying to make about the silliness about "efficiency" that
appeared here some time ago.  A Chicago School type would count in the "cost"
of undoing all of those political decisions, psychic and monetary, to "prove"
that the what there is is the most "efficient" solution.  Which is a pointless
exercise anyway, since by definition, if A exists and not B, B is more
"efficient."  Kind of like the evolutionary argument that if people exist and
spotted owls don't--almost--then people are more "fit."  Or, people who do not
reproduce are, by definition, genetically unfit to do so.


See yas

-K
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 16 Nov 92 05:16:27 GMT
Organization: not a chance



>
>Thanks, though. None of the other people round here seem to have thought
>of what is obviously the most intuitive alias for me.
>
>tushar

I dunno -- list hunk seems about right to me.  Neal, judith -- you've 
met him, what do you think?

---bayla

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:15:57 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blast From The Past (Long!)
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>  >Espen Ore           19           0           0      322,261
>                 Norwegian, right?  He just disappeared one day.
> She, no?

He.  A sexy-looking he on skiis in the gif.

Re Colin Manning, I don't remember him.  Did you and FWP ever discuss the
archive tape in relation to your new machine?  When I win PCH sweepstakes
and buy a Sun SPARCserver/490, I'll keep the complete archives in an easily
accessible place.  That will be right after I buy a scanner and a cellular
modem.  I wish PCH would let me know soon so that I could go on and order
these things.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:06:53 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Eggspots in the fridge
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On Sat, 21 Nov 1992, Tony Harminc wrote:

> My shiny new fridge has no freezer at all.

1). He has a separate freezer unit

or

2). He just puts it out in the back yard if he wants it to stay frozen

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:55:14 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Handbook for Torture?
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My undergrad research group, the one I asked you all the reconstruction
methods question for, has moved on...  Now we would like to find out
about torture.  What is the purpose of torture?  Is it mental or
physical?  We were wondering if there is a standard handbook, like the
60's terrorist handbook for bomb-making?

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:29:36 -0600
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "Wimmin" "Womyn" - Historical Roots?
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1992, Peter Renzland wrote:

> First question: Some people use spellings such as "womyn".  Who uses
> these forms?  What other words belong in the set?  What more is there to it?

I've seen these forms used by radical separatist lesbians, by male
homosexuals, and by a few other people who think that they should.
"Womyn" is singular; "wimmin" plural.

They come from the idea that the above-mentioned people don't like the
original word "woman" itself, as they claim it is etymologically derived
from "of man" and therefore degrading.  (Others see it as originally
meaning "with man" -- it's a case of Adam's rib or Adam's side.)

Personally, I find it silly, and a friend of mine once mentioned that, for
all their wanting to get away from men, these women had inserted a "y"
chromosome into their pristine word form.  :)

> Second question: Some people assume that such spellings are modern and
> without historical basis, whereas others suggest historical roots.  Where do
> these spellings come from?

As I said, I've only seen them in these contexts and I believe they were
coined within the last 20-30 years.  But I could be wrong.

Hope this helps...

> Peter Renzland <renzland@gov.on.ca> Ontario Ministry of Health +1 416 327-7741

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:45:09 -0600
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: All this croning stuff
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On Tue, 17 Nov 1992, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> > You can have a croning whenever you want; I won't send the Witch police
> > after you... :)
>
> I know.  But your sources make it sound as if 56 is a more typical croning
> time than 50.  I wouldn't want to risk appearing to be 6 years older than
> I am by having an early croning.  And even if you didn't send the Witch Police
> after me, the witches might look askance at me and note me in their records.

I believe I have been misunderstood.  I said that one source said cronings
happen at one's second Saturn return.  Other sources suggested that as a
good time, also including the end of menses, the birth of a first
grandchild, retirement, or (and this part is important) *whenever a woman
feels it is appropriate.*

When I said maybe a croning wasn't what everybody was after, I meant that
maybe not everyone who's interested in this ceremony wants to commemorate
the same thing.  Are y'all after marking the beginning of one stage, or the
peak of another one?  And is everyone interested in commemorating the same
thing?

And besides, unless I'm much mistaken, this ceremony is not going to be by
and for Witches at all -- you're just drawing from those sources because,
well, we have rituals for these things and most of the more, um,
mainstream religions do not.  In fact, it's probably going to be somewhat
secular (which is not to say not spiritual).  So perhaps I'll just bow out
of this discussion now that I've suggested references and let those of you
who are interested shape your own ritual.  That's really what's best, anyway.

And I'm sure it'll be lovely.  :)

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
-----amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu--------------The University of Texas @Austin---
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Croning
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> About what?  About making me think that it's more socially acceptable
> to have a croning celebration at age 56 than at age 50?  I'm rather
> disappointed at the thought of having to wait that long.  I was getting
> excited about the event.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Guess I must be missing something here - if the croning celebration marks a
certain age and not the onset of menopause, what makes it different from a
big birthday bash?

rashmi, who agrees with Don that men deserve one, too!

Hmmm, what's the masculine of crone?
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Greetings,

I am hardly likely to forget that genius and gargantuan stupidity are often
to be found in close proximity, Tushar.  Certainly, I hardly need fear
forgetting this so long as you and I remain active subscribers and
contributors to this list.

Marty
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From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
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>None of these characterizations is fair. I don't believe Clinton is
>the waffler many make him out to be. I do believe he may actually
>substantively address the issue of allowing gays to _openly_ serve in the
>U.S. military.

Go ahead and believe it. The fact is, Clinton retreated on this
soon after he suggested it. Bill
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Teachers and students
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> You don't understand why he married her! She volunteered to type when
> she didn't know how to type and you don't understand! Hell, if two
> females did this to me simultaneously I'd commit bigamy.
>
> tushar

yeah, it is a *sweet* thing to do, but it is also sort of like some
lovely offering to drive my Miata home for me when she doesn't know
how to drive.  I might *allow* her to <shack-up> with me but I don't
think I would marry her most decidedly not.
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:13:53 EST
From:         Lisa Alfieri <KYL120@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*

Marty,
      I hope you are not surprised by Clinton's wanting to, "look at the
mechanics involved in changing the policy", it is what American campaigning is
all about, tell the people what they want to hear, do what you really want
later. I think that it will be a long time before the policy is changed, I do
not see it happening during the Clinton Administation. It's too bad, if you
want to serve your country, it should not matter who you prefer to keep company
with. But, the U.S. military is a strange beast, my dad is about to retire from
the Navy after 30 years of service and his stories never cease to amaze me.
            How many times have people won campaigns when they told the truth?
People don't want to hear it. Again especially when it comes to taxex but, the
issues differ from election to election, enviroment, abortion and gay rights
were important platforms in getting the votes.

      Boy, would Niccolo Machiavelli be proud of me today!

                                                          lisa
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:31:43 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: All this croning stuff
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> Susan,
> You're kidding, right?
> -abh

About what?  About making me think that it's more socially acceptable
to have a croning celebration at age 56 than at age 50?  I'm rather
disappointed at the thought of having to wait that long.  I was getting
excited about the event.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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