From: vsg001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: The Clinton Legacy RE:George "Tax and Spend" Bush
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:27:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.193256.1355@Warren.MENTORG.COM>, tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
> In article <1992Sep29.181450.27998@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep28.235401.2769@Warren.MENTORG.COM> tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:
>>>However, I checked with my parents (who live a similarly SOL as I do,
>>>so it's a decent reference of comparison) and they pay MUCH MORE taxes
>>>now than they did before.  This is by % of income.  (no, they haven't
>>>retired or anything like that which might put a spin on the figures)
>>>
>>>Who is the "TAX AND SPEND" president?  I say it was Bush.
>>
>>That's a useful piece of information only if you think that Clinton
>>will be LESS of a tax and spend president than Bush was.  According to
>>the announced plans, Clinton plans to spend more than Bush does.  Are
>>we really supposed to assume that Clinton is lying, that he'll spend
>>less than he's promising?  (Note that the announced tax increase and
>>spending cuts don't come close to covering the new spending, so ....)
> 
> This is a LIE.  Bush has dodged the issue and not spoken any specific
> plans.  Therefore you can't say that he plans on spending less than
> Clinton.
> 
> If Bush was serious about solving the deficit problem, he would have
> sumitted AT LEAST ONE budget that spent less money than the previous
> year.
> 
> You can't put 100% of the blame on the congress if the commander
> in chief doesn't lead.
> 
> FACT:  FOUR OUT OF FOUR budgets that Bush submitted were larger than
> the previous year's budget.
> 
> FACT:  Clinton as Gov. had 12 out of 12 *balanced* budgets.
> 
> Tom
> -- 
> Tom Limoncelli -- tal@warren.mentorg.com (work) -- tal@plts.uucp (play)
> "I like Bill Clinton tremendously.  I know him from the governors' conferences.
> The Democrats nominated their best person, a very able fellow.  The country is
> well served by that choice." -Bush's re-election chair in NJ (Thomas Kean)
Sorry Tom, but since you're so stuck on the' FACTS', how about you take a look
at Slicks 'FACTS':  Bill Clinton has promised to do to the United States what he did to Arkansas, well lets see... that would mean 128 new
tax increases (something that the Clinton camp has admitted to) and as the
Arkansas Gazette referred to these tax policies as "inhumane" (3/4/91), the
1988 study by the Citizens for Tax Justice found that Arkansas among the 10
most regressive states with regards to sales taxes, Slick Willie even taxed
food stamps until the Reagan/Bush administration made him stop in 1987,
according to Slick himself:"If you ask me what has not been done, I'd... in
1980's we didn't make gains in per capita income", since 1980 the number of
people on welfare has increased twice as much as in the country, unemployment
in Arkansas stands today at 7.8% (Wasington Times 7/26/92)... the list goes on
and on. What Andy said in his flame(?) is absolutely correct. No argument
whatsoever. Clinton will raise our taxes more than any other president...ever.
True he balanced his budget BUT HE HAD A FUCKING LAW THAT MADE HIM DO SO!!!!!
Do the Democrats support this? OBVIOUSLY NOT! Its just another example of
Democrats taking credit for Republican ideals (Read: Desert Storm, the defeat
of Communism,etc) Enough said. And in the words of Charles Barkley:
		"Now take your ass-whipping and go home."
Here endith the lesson.
 		--VSG001@acad.drake.edu (Vince Goddard ARCH-Conservative)

P.S. I would be more than happy to supply any disbelievers with all sources for
statistics provided, and then some.