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From: nlp54@cas.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Vedas are NOT shit ( was  Re: Animal Sacrifice in Temples
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:50:12 GMT
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio

In article <18nqd6INN7p6@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> vidynath@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyarath K Rao) writes:
>In article <BuBDo5.G90@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>
>
>If one is interested in the Vedas for historical reasons or as the ancient
>literature of India, the correct translation (= what the poet meant to say)
>is essential.
>--
>Vidhyanth Rao                  It is the man, not the method, that solves
>nathrao+@osu.edu               the problem. - Henri Poincare
>(614)-366-9341                 [as paraphrased by E. T. Bell]

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I agree with Mr. Rao on the above issue.
The problem is how many of the NEOVEDIC SCHOLARS living in CANADA and the US
know SANSKRIT language, were brought up in INDIA under VEDIC and VEDANTIC
ENVIRONMENT, and read AUTHENTIC VEDIC WRITINGS in SANSKRIT (atleast written in
their vernacular as the British call our mother tongues).  It seems they refer
to some English translations of VEDAS which were assembled by westerners who do
these translations for hobby to ridicule ORIENTAL (as they call) CULTURES and
RELEGIONS.  If these NEOVEDIC SCHOLARS of CANADA and US understood VEDIC
WRITINGS so deeply, why don't they go back to INDIA and reform HINDUISM and
solve problems in our MOTHERLAND.  Let them relinquish the HAMBURGER CULTURE and
take up the NEOVEDA CULTURE and start VEDA AADI.

As the SAPTARSHYA RISHIS say:

ONE SHOULD BE INTELLECTUALLY EVOLVED TO UNDERSTAND THE VEDAS.
ONE SHOUD ARRIVE AT THE RIGHT TIME TO EXAMINE THE VEDAS CRITICALLY IN ORDER TO
GET THE HONEY OUT.

As we are in the US, we think (pose) that we understand the VEDAS thoroughly.
That is certainly typical of us (Mr. know it all).

PALANA
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Paranandi L. Narasimham
CAS
Columbus
Ohio-43202

Opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of CAS.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: schandra@utdallas.edu (Chandrasekharan Subbarayan)
Subject: Re: Find this kuRaL...
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:59:09 GMT

In article <9209061800.AA15161@cec1.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>   deyvam thozhaa_aL kozhu_nan thozhuthezhuvaaL
>   peyyanap peyyum mazhai [ KuRaL, # 55 ].
> 
> Meaning :
>--------
>  VaLLuvar speaks in praise of chastity of women. He says that,
>if a woman doesn't worship any god but worships her husband as
>god always, the rain will pour at her bidding.
>                                                     S.Pandian
>                                             sp2@cec1.WUSTL.edu

 There is another meaning for this I read in *kuRaLOviyam* (by M. Karunanithi):

 A woman who worships her husband than god is as good to the society as 
 a rain which pours at the command of people. If only rain can obey the 
 commands of people, there will be no floods nor famines. The above said
 woman does so good to the society as does such a peyyenap peyyum mazhai.

       						     S.Chandrasekaran
						schandra@utdallas.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Birth and Death
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:55:30 GMT

In <BuA069.8y9@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca writes:

>The concept of birth and death is intimately related to the words
>used in ancient languages.
>In Tamil,   Death = (iRa)ppu
>            Birth = (piRa)ppu.
>These words imply re-birth, and the cycle of birth and deaths.
>The fact that the word for 'birth' is derived from that of 'death'
>and not vice versa is itself note worthy.

>The word birth could itself have been originated from 'piRa ppu'.

>K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca

  sri aiyaah!

 nam vaLLuvanum piRappukkum, iRappukkum athika vithiyaasam
sollaliyE!

  sri !
our vaLLuvar did not say that is much difference between birth and death.

"uRanguvathu pOlum saakkadu uRangi
 vizhippathu pOlum piRappu"

Death is like sleep; birth is like awaking from it.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sundar@bagpipe.cis.ohio-state.edu (N Sundar)
Subject: naanghaam tamizh; Computer Science
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:00:50 GMT

A few weeks ago, there was an interesting discussion on naanghaam tamizh.
Many people had translated technical terms, especially in math. I had posted
an article trying to translate some terms in Computer science (CS) but there 
was no response of any kind. Common all ye folks, show some interest!

I am not aware of any currently used words in the context of CS; so I am
starting from scratch.

	English		Tamil	    		Rationale
	-------		-----			---------
	Algorithm	padimuRai  		step-by-step method
	program		neeLpadimuRai		detailed algorithm
	Computer	padimuRaikkaruvi	algorithmic device. 
					 This is a more accurate term. But
					 does not easily lend itself to be
					 used as a prefix as in 'computerized'
					 and so on.

	Comp. sci.	padiMuRai iyal		This term ignores data 
						structures. Would like better
						word.

	input		uLLAkkam
	output		veLiAkkam		Would prefer better words :-)
						
	data		vivaram
	data structure	vivara amaippu
	information	vivarap poruL 		content of data.
					   ceithi is not quite appropriate here

	design	        uruva amaippu 		design process (verb)
			uruvagam  		structure (noun)


Note: Somebody had suggested the word kaNNani or something like that for
computer. Can s/he please explain its etymological roots or how common it is.

I'll stop here pending some feedback.
Sundar.

Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:55:19 -0400 
From: Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh <rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: A Ghost Poem......
	<1992Sep10.031612.11378@reed.edu>

Unfortunately this did happen, in a massive scale.

There's picture I remember seeing in one of India Today's issue that
showed bunch of emaciated teens being trained under the supervision of
Indian officers.

They formed the bulk of the Tamil National Army(TNA), created by RAW
with assistance from Telo, PLOT and ENDLF. Intimidation of families(if
they didn't give their son) and arson and murder in many cases(of
familes sympathetic to LTTE) were used to recruit in short period of
time. 
I don't have any papers or news clips to prove this. But, it did happen.
Just one of many ugly legacies left behind by the IPKF. 

suresh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: :
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:52:50 GMT

 For the people who say that Tamizhs are not fighting for
the right cause, I ask only one question.

  Will they watch their women and children raped, libraries
burnt by an army that claims to be srilankan, but only
composed of Sinhalese?


If they do then we can guess what kind of people they
are.


But we know that tamizhs right from puRanaanooRu days have
stood for self-respect and pride.

   vaalzhga maRath thamizhan!

Kathiravan 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: U vs V ......
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 02:13:52 GMT

In article <18370.2aa750ff@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>	Again... We are in the middle of a YOU versus WE war.  In my opinion,
>this war is because of the  inability of some readers to distinguish all the
>parties involved, and their improper  generalization.  Also, one should note
>that there are  individual opinions  which may not be the popular (majority)
>opinion, before conclude on anything.
>
>	We know that  there have been so many parties involved in this issue.
>From Sri Lankan side we have Tamil people, Sinhalese people, Government/poli-
>ticans, Armed forces, LTTE, other militant groups and individuals. Similarly,
>from Indian side, we  have Tamil  people, other Indians, central  government,
>Tamilnadu government, opposition politicians (Tamilnadu, central), IPKF, RAW
>and individuals.
>
>THINK.... THINK....
>
>Thanks,
>
>Vicky:
>UMass, Sep 04

100% agreed with you Vicky. Flames start only when some netters
start generalising certain incidents. Anyway, lets hope for the
best and try to be united and do our best in contributing something
useful to SOT.

Anbudan,

V R Kumar


-- 
 V.R.Kumar (Ramkumar Venkatachalam)                                 
 CSIRO, Division of Information Technology                         
 P.O.Box:1599, Macquarie Centre, North Ryde, NSW 2113, AUSTRALIA
From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: A Ghost Poem .....
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:02:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <FA21E57B037F201C32@cs.umass.EDU> DEVADOSS@cs.umass.EDU (John deVadoss) writes:
>>>vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>>> avan 'pO' enRaal                           if one says 'go'
>>> ivan 'vaa' enpaan.                         the other says 'come'.
>
>>aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable) writes:
>>  If Cheran is in the middle, then there is no confusion regarding
>>this. Just he has to go to the side which asks him to 'come'. In this
>>way he obliges both the sides. Pretty obvious, huh?
>
>>Venkat 		venkat@jetson.uh.edu
>
>It was a great comment Venkat. It was as cruel as saying to a person who 
>lost an eye in an accident, "oh, you can see by the other one". There are 
>places to make comments, though "logic" would sound appropriate. I was not
>
>-john

	I share the comments expressed by John. Whether Venkat's comment
	is intentional or not, it was unwarrented. Even his interpretation
	doesn't sound logical. If one says 'go' and other says 'come', should
	the common man go to wherever the logic makes him to go?. Is a
	human being or machine?. Instead of appreciating the entire poem
	of Cheran, mocking at those two lines is unfortunate. But Sri Lankan
	Tamils can not expect more than this from the Indian patriots, 
	particularly now. 

	I hope this mockery will not stop Vicky or others posting TE 
	literature.
	
	Let me quickly comment on few things, though unrelated to this thread,
	only to save the b/W:

	There was lot of advice from moderate netters to those who were
	critical of Vedas, like, 

	(1). Be careful when commenting on sensitive issues, as it may 
	offend those who believe in them

	(2). Don't comment unless you have in_depth knowledge.

	(3). Why see only the bad part, learn to look the good 

	etc.

	I do agree with them. But unfortunately similar advise do not come
	from them when few netters indulge in offending the feelings of
	others in other sensitive issues. For example, when it comes to the
	issue of blaming Sri Lankan Tamils and LTTE, there were 
	sweeping statements by many without knowing facts or pretending to
	know. But I don't see any advice coming from these moderates at such  
	times. Advising on selective issues may create doubts on their 
	integrity. 

M. Sundaramoorthy
sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu
From: ambati@acsu.buffalo.edu (Balamural K. Ambati)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Youth Forum Sep 19 (AIA) in New York
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:18:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB


On September 19, 1992, the Association of Indians in American (AIA) will be
celebrating their 25th anniversary at the Marriot Marquis Hotel in Manhattan.
In the afternoon there will be a panel discussion on education and career
choices as pertains to Indian youth in America.  If you are interested in
participating (panelist or audience) please contact me.  Your suggestions
of knowledgeable people in various fields as panelists are also invited.
Thanks.

Balamurali K. Ambati
Jayakrishna Ambati
ambati@ubunix.buffalo.edu
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: An interview with Balakumaran - Intro
Date: 11 Sep 1992 20:37:27 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      An interview with Balakumaran - Intro
    -----------------------------------------
   This series of articles is taken from the Subamangalaa
 magazine and is the interview ( in three or more parts ) 
 with Balakumaran conducted by Gomal Swaminadhan. 
   I am posting this series honoring Sundaramoorthy's call
 to take part in discussions on modern Tamil literature in
 the net and Parthasarathy's suggestion to focus on topics
 other than Indo-Aryan culture in this net.
   Balakumaran is a popular writer in commercial Tamil
 magazines and he has earned the `Ilakkiya Chinthanai' award
 for his `Mercury PookkaL' and another award by Annamalai
 Chettiar. 
   I have translated the interview into English as the 
 interview is very long. It was fun. I assume that Balakumaran
 is known to readers of this net. Your comments are welcome.
                                                  S.Pandian
                                             sp2@cec1.wustl.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: Re: What is thaNdanidudhal ?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:18:27 GMT

In article <9209111617.AA07366@cec1.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>      Recently, I came across the Tamil word `thaNdanidudhal'
> in a book. Usage : `naan adhaRkaaka thaNdanittadhillai'.
> I have never heard this word or its usage in my home-city
> Madurai and I don't know where is it used commonly. I am not
> worried about its origin though. I like to know what its means.
> Do you know its meaning ?
>                                                     S.Pandian
>                                              sp2@cec1.WUSTL.edu
>-------------------------------------------------------------------


It means "to submit humbly"

raghavan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: durai@ORTTA (Appadurai V.)
Subject: kadi jokes
Organization: U of Mn
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:12:58 GMT

: romba nErama andha aruviyaiyE paaththuttu nikkarEngalE, neenga enna
  Oviyara ?

: illEnga, paalkaran.

 			 *******

: | idhu baanu enRaal, / idhu yaar ?

: saaira baanu.

           		 *******

: yEnga, eppa naan violin vaasikka aarambichchalum udanE veLiyilE
  OdidaREngalE, enna vishayam ?

: illE, naan onnai adikkarEnnu yaarum ninaichchuda koodadhu illaiyaa ?

			 ********

In one of SVSekar dramas..

folks are arranging a marriage and ask the SVS gang for opinions..they dont 
find a kurukkal and so pick a vettiyaan and try to pass him up as a 
kurukkal (i forgot the exact background).. the following dialogue ..

: kalyaanam thane, naasam pannidalam, vidunga
: yov.. ennaya naan kalyaanangarEn, nI ennomo naasam adhu idhu..
: kavalaiyE padaanthInga.. poNappeRattu peRattitudalam..

			 *********

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: ksivasam@ho04.eng.ua.edu (Kalidoss Sivasamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: (none)
Date: 12 Sep 1992 13:41:47 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


>> From: paranand@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (murahi paranandi)
>> Subject: Re: Telugu and Tamil

>> In "Maro Charitra", Sarita's (telugu) mother and Kamal Hasan's father have
>> a fight over some smell of cooking non-vegitarian food or something like that.
>> Sarita's mother goes:
>>	"Veellanthenandi, Aravvallu... Aravam Aravam Antune Arustuntaru!"  

>> If I remember it right, dialogues were by Ganesh Patro.

   I also would've enjoyed this joke, if you'd given a translation.


Kalidoss.
ksivasam@buster.eng.ua.edu
From: raman@cs.utexas.edu (Raman Rajagopalan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Apology Required? - NOT!
Date: 15 Sep 1992 18:59:30 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bathtub.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Sep8.171419.12574@cbnews.cb.att.com> rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar) writes:
>In article <lapj2pINNo7b@bathtub.cs.utexas.edu> raman@cs.utexas.edu (Raman Rajagopalan) writes:
>>In article <kat.715961456@reg> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>     Raman threatens and appeals for arms for Brahmins.
>>
>>> He (brahmin) will say "poonool"
>>> He will bug you for money
>>> He isa  greedy chap
>>> He will sweat in front of the white man.
>>>
>>>Kathiravan
>>>
>>
>
>No. Kathiravan did not say this. He only claimed that Bharathiyar had
>said so.
>
>The words quoted here  are not Karhiravan's.
>If I remember Kathiravan's response correctly, he was
>quoting Bharathiyar in his repsonse.
>I think this repsonse should not have been edited to exclude
>references to Bharathiyar. If the deleting was unintentional, that is ok;
>If not, it amounts to deliberate distortion of the response.
>
>
>I have no comments about who is right or wrong on this issue.
>I do not want to get involved in this battle.
>However, I felt it was necessary to point out that Kathiravan's
>response was edited badly, and contents were taken out of context,
>and presented in an unflattering way.
>
>Bye.

First, the reference to Bharathiyar was not intentionally left out.
I had reponded to an earlier post by Kathiravan that I am not
going to bother with traslating tamil written in english.  I simply
skipped the paragraph.

Next, it's immaterial whether it was intentially left out or not.  
Mr. Kathiravan used the quote to refer to me.  Therefore, it no longer
matters who originally wrote the quote.  Mr. Kathiravan had
indeed said something unflattering about me by reproducing the
quote when he did.

In fact, if you look at the series of articles, Mr. Kathiravan
responded with sheer blathering to an article with content.  He
could have saved himself by looking up the word "sarcasm" which
I referenced in the article to which he was responding.

By the way, what's going on here?

I reply to Meenan Vishnu, and find a reply by Kathiravan.  I
reply to that and Mr. Pandian reponds.  Finally, Mr. Kathiravan
defends himself (with the above mentioned nonsense) and you
come to his aid.  

Don't the persons being debated have the guts to defend their
positions directly, with facts, when challenged, rather than
simply libeling me through quotations and nonsense rhetoric?

I do not include you in this, Mr. Pandian.  Your earlier objections
to being categorized have been noted, and I will leave you
out of this matter.

cheers,

raman rajagopalan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: bommax@cs.tamu.edu (Bommannan S Bommannan)
Subject: search!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:42:05 GMT

Hi,
      I am looking for one of my friends who is currently doing M.S. in some
      university in Illinois.  His name is Venkatavara prasad - BITS
      student(1987 batch), worked in Fergusons, Bombay and in NLC .If anybody
      knows him or his address please mail me.


Bommannan S.Bommannan
Bommax@cs.tamu.edu
Department of Computer Science
Texas A & M University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,alt.culture.tamil
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Re: Non sequitur (was: thugLak aLikkum "puratchi sashti kavacham")
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:57:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.014147.23755@menudo.uh.edu> Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu> writes:
[to my]
>> What insidious intent (if any) did you suspect?

>Trying to avoid a conflict with your girlfriend or fiancee who is
>somewhere in Europe or in Australia or in India. Precisely?

True colors showing, finally? As well as sexual orientation, of course.

[and, to]
>> PPS. There is now an alt.non.sequitur, so followups are directed
>> there. :)
>No, that too is not available in our site. Man, it seems that your site
>is loaded with only alt hierarchies. Is there any alt.Sthan.babble  ;-)
>in your umd site? Just curious. 
>
>Venkat

Touchy, touchy.

Get a clue. Barring which read the charter of this newsgroup.

Sthan.

PS. For starters, a new handle might do, working one's way
down to the signature.
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From: cs_nlg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: raval
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:09:42 +1700
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

oruvan:	 alexander ariyanayil yeriyathum enna seythar theriyuma??
mattravan: theriyathe|
oruvan: ithu kooda theriyatha madaya. ariyanayil utkarnthar.


Ithu oru sample than itharku nalla response irundal nanbarkal rasiththal innum ezhuthukireezhuthukiren. athu varai vanakkam koori vidai peruvathu oru vayathana ma
ji aruvai.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable)
Subject: Re: A Ghost Poem .....
Reply-To: Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu>
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:01:53 GMT

In article <2AAE7481.12649@news.service.uci.edu> sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu  
(M. Sundaramoorthy) writes:
> 	I share the comments expressed by John. Whether Venkat's comment
> 	is intentional or not, it was unwarrented. Even his interpretation
> 	doesn't sound logical. If one says 'go' and other says 'come', should
> 	the common man go to wherever the logic makes him to go?. Is a
> 	human being or machine?. Instead of appreciating the entire poem
> 	of Cheran, mocking at those two lines is unfortunate. But Sri Lankan
> 	Tamils can not expect more than this from the Indian patriots, 
> 	particularly now. 
     If you think I posted that post because of my patriotism, you're
    wrong.[Doesn't mean I'm not a patriot] For details, refer my earlier
    post in reply to John. As a matter of fact, I support SL tamils for
    their cause but not the LTTE which I mentioned earlier in one of
    my postings.
> 
> 	I hope this mockery will not stop Vicky or others posting TE 
> 	literature.
   It's quite unfortunate that you paint a picture I'm mocking TE
   literarture.   
        [stuff deleted]
> 	I do agree with them. But unfortunately similar advise do not come
> 	from them when few netters indulge in offending the feelings of
> 	others in other sensitive issues. For example, when it comes to the
> 	issue of blaming Sri Lankan Tamils and LTTE, there were 
> 	sweeping statements by many without knowing facts or pretending to
> 	know. But I don't see any advice coming from these moderates at such  
> 	times. Advising on selective issues may create doubts on their 
> 	integrity. 
  I don't know whom you are referring to. I never made any sweeping
  statements against anybody.

Venkat
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