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From: tufnel@camelot.bradley.edu (Timothy Bartley)
Subject: Cringer (was Spongetones, Green Day)
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:45:38 GMT

Cringer is another band on Lookout.  I've only heard a couple songs that I
taped off a 7" from a friend (Pen, Ballad of a Handgun), but I think they're
really good.  Anyone else have any comments?

tim
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("provided pay ok")
Subject: Re: REM - favorite lesser-known songs
Organization: elsewhere
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:23:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.204532.7844@netcom.com> rchao@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes:
>I forgot to mention my all-time favorite REM b-side:
>"Last Date," a country instrumental that graced the back of
>End of the World (7-inch).
>
>Does anyone know aof any albums with music tghat sounds just like this?

well, you could pick up a floyd cramer album - he's the guy who wrote
the song! :)

-- 
( dave prokopy - prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu )
( "who'll remember the buns, podgy?"        )
( "we BOTH will, jasper!"                   )
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From: moleface@next09cville.wam.umd.edu (Moleface)
Subject: Re: JesusBands and Oral Hygene Songs
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:38:28 GMT

In article <moravec.727661258@spot.Colorado.EDU> moravec@spot.Colorado.EDU  
(MORAVEC) writes:
> I am currently looking for bands with the name Jesus in them, and
> songs FOR ADULTS (it makes it harder) about oral hygiene.  I put
> these small trivia questions in the program guide for KUCB, CU's
> radio station.
> 
> These are the ones that I have:
> 
> Oral Hygiene, by Bongo, Bass and Bob,
> Shane's Dentist, by Mojo Nixon
> Can God Fill Teeth, by Lard,
> and Dentist, off of "The Little Shop of Horrors" Soundtrack
> (I think that last one counts...)
> 
> I know there are more out there, concerning teeth and such.
> On the other hand, I thought I had gotten all of the Jesus bands,
> until Creaming Jesus' albulm appeared at our station...can anyone think
> of more?
> 
> Jesus and Mary Chain
> Jesus Chrysler
> Jesus Lizard
> Jesus Jones
> Jesus Loves You
> Jesus Messerschmidt
> MC 900ft Jesus
> Liquid Jesus
> Plastic Jesus
> 
> Ludichrist doesn't make it (sadly) but is worth mentioning.
> Overall there are 10 names, which is much more than the motley
> article on Jesus bands which appeared in Interview Magazine a while
> back.  :-D 
> Thanks in advance...
> 
> The Rock! 
> 
> -- 
>  . . .. ... .....     ........        .............         
....................K.L.Moravec
> moravec@spot.colorado.edu
> .....................    

 .............   ........   .....   ...  ..  . . 
It ain't exactly alternative, but howzabout "Anesthesia: Pulling Teeth"   
by Metallica?
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From: hk@caesar.rice.edu (Hyonchol Kahng)
Subject: Re: Telescopes
Keywords: Petor Astor / Telescopes
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:41:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.083119.3720@leland.Stanford.EDU> tower@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jim Van Houten) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.074057.28756@epas.toronto.edu> izumi@epas.utoronto.ca (Noriko Izumi) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone know how their other stuff sound like?
>>How did they sound like before they moved to Creation?
>
>I refused to shell out the big bucks to buy their pre-Creation releases.  If 
>anyone knows how these are, please post.  One thing you would probably like is
>the Celeste EP.  It is on Creation and is at the same caliber as the album.

The first Telescopes album I bought was the _Trademark of Quality_ live CD
(for $9 brand new) - the sound quality is bordering on horrible, every break
in the set is nothing but feedback, and the music is abrasive and frenetic -
kind of no-holds-barred circa-'88 Valentines meets MC5.  I liked it a lot.

The self-titled album threw me for a loop, because it was so much... quieter,
but I like that a lot, too.  What I'd like to know is what happened to the
band that got them to change their sound so drastically.  As far as I can
tell, the lineup hasn't changed between those two albums, so, what`s the
deal, did Stephen Lowrie get religion or something?

I've also managed to track down a couple of other ep's - one on Cheeree and
the other on Creation.  Neither are terribly spectacular.

BTW, the best thing about the _Telescopes_ album is the song book.  
"Splashdown" is one of my favorite songs to play on the acoustic guitar.


hk

Oh, on a completely different note, anyone catch Hank "Make You Feel Like a
Pussy" Rollins on eMpTyVee fondling Kennedy?  Cute, eh?


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:35:13 -0500 
From: "Megan E. Dietz" <md3n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Any Mr. Bungle fans out there???
	<1993Jan19.230009.15341@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>

>>Any Mr. Bungle fans out there???  If so, we'd love to discuss this
>>revolutionary (though somewhat perverse) music!!!
> 
>>Anybody know of any other albums (new or bootlegged) other than the current
>>one?  Let us know!
> 
>>                        --Squeezing Macaroni in Iowa
> 
>   You know, I've been wondering the same thing.  There ought to be
>more discussion about Mr.Bungle.  Does anyone know if Patton will
>continue doing mB as well as FNM?  Well, I just got my tickets today
>for FNM feb.6, the next best thing to Mr.Bungle!
>   Also, who are the other guys in  the band (besides Patton)?  Are
>they from other bands as well?
-mark
 
In an interview with MTV Brazil, Mikey said that just as some people
really enjoy polygamy, he seriously likes being in more than one band
(or something like that--I'm paraphrasing). So I guess he'll stay in
both.

Mr. Bungle was Mike's band before he got 'discovered' by Faith No More.
In the video for 'Epic,' he's wearing a Mr. Bungle t-shirt.

John Zorn is also in the band, if I'm not mistaken.

This is all I know--if anyone has anything else, please let me know.


Megan
---------------------------
I don't need to be forgiven
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From: mw@irfu.se (Mattias Waldenvik)
Subject: Re: TUBES- GREATEST HITS???
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:13:05 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden
Keywords: Messed up because ...

In article <1993Jan21.113226.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> bourque_par@ccsua.ctstateu.edu (Paul Bourque) writes:
>In article <1jitq2INN39c@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM () writes:
>> 
>> HAVE THE TUBES EVER COME OUT WITH A GREATEST HITS OR A LIVE ALBUM??
>> 
>> JOHN
>The tubes have come out with a Greatest hits album, entitled T.R.A.S.H.
>(stands for Tubes Rarities And S...... Hits) I cannot recall the whole title,
>I'll have to go back to the Radio sTation Stacks and check it out for you
> PAUL
>
	... and a live album called What do you want from LIVE
	recorded in 77 or 78 I believe.

					Mattias
From: U40824@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: No Stone Roses in Can?
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:22:24 GMT
 <SSAMMY.93Jan25104222@fleming-03.cs.strath.ac.uk>
 <1993Jan25.141449.3059@dct.ac.uk>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

you brits think you are sooo cool!

just keep thinking you are superior, it ain't gonna take you now where.

the roses should be honored to play here in the states.  it would show
them where they realyare appreciated, because i don't think you will ever
understand the whole scene here.  all you get to view about america
is those ass backwards charts in the NME which tell you that all we
are into are bands like winger or cinderella or michael jackson.
ther is a lot more to america and before you start slamming us just
come here and see for yourself.


jw
u40824@uicvm.uic.edu
From: joelg@wildcat.corp.sgi.com (Joel Guilhamet)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Opal info needed
Date: 27 Jan 1993 06:43:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
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Keywords: opal

In article <C1HD3s.K71@news.cso.uiuc.edu> drj21264@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel R. Juliano ) writes:
>I have a CD by a group called Opal.  The name of the CD is Happy Nightmare
>Baby.  I can't find anything else by this group, but I have heard other songs
>by them before.  I would like to know what Opal has done besides Happy N Baby,
>and where I could get it.  Thanx.

One other Opal CD was available on the now defunct ROUGH TRADE label.
The album "Early Recordings" is actually a compilation of a couple of
EP's recorded before Happy Nightmare.  You might try writing Dutch East
India Trading (PO Box 800, Rockville Centre, NY 11571-0800) who advertise
the Rough Trade back catalog.  Early Recordings has an acoustic sound
unlike the electric sound of Happy Nightmare Baby, but has a similar
style and is EXCELLENT.  Opal's Kendra Smith has recently released
Guild of Temporal Adventures which is also excellent IMHO.  David
Roback's most recent project is Mazzy Star.  Look for the album
She Hangs Brightly.  It should still be available.  Rumors this 
summer spoke of a new album in the fall, but nothing turned up.  :-(

Other Smith and Roback projects include The Dream Syndacate and Rain
Parade respectively.
 


-- 
Joel Guilhamet
joelg@corp.sgi.com
(415) 390-2424
From: C.L.Gannon@newcastle.ac.uk (LEO)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: what is 'straight edge'?
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:07:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


(Kevin Freeman) writes:
>
>  Hah hah. I knew when I saw that post there would be a fight. Just like
>MnR. I'm "straight-edge" and I don't give a fuck. I think drugs should be
>legalized. I don't eat meat because I love animals. I don't care what you
>do. I would like it if you didn't drink or do drugs but it doesn't mean I
>won't give you a big hug if you ask for one. I'll huyg anyone even if
>their stoned.
>  I would prefer if everybody considered animals as human equals I think
>it is part of the problem with the world today. We are to humancentric
>(there's a big word one of my friends uses but I can't remember it). I
>ride my bike and I stay straight to be healthy and to get one I think is
>the most out of life. Other people get stoned to do that... so be it.
>
> I don't eat my friends!!!!!!
>
> Vegan farts smell the worst. But nothing smells better than your own
>farts!!!!
>
>Lotsa love
>  Kev


      now this is the first sensible reply there's
      been on this subject (including this one) so
      i think a round of applause is deserved by 
      Kev (straight edge and not self righteous)

      nice one.

      by the way, is it just people from cambridge university
      that hate my sig or are there more of you out there?

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From: sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: what happened to Austin's Wild Seeds? (Was: trains...)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:31:47 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <QD6WBB0J@cc.swarthmore.edu> sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein) writes:
>Given the surprising amount of interest on the thread about songs with rain
>in the title, I thought we might start another one on another great rock
>'n' roll topic: trains.  Any theories on why trains are such a staple of

I can also add "Long Gone Train" by the Wild Seeds.  Whatever happened to
them anyway - anyone know?

greg
From: straffin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Depeche Mode Release Date?
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:04:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.

In article <26JAN199321452567@zeus.tamu.edu> san7675@zeus.tamu.edu (STEPH) writes:
>jim@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jim Myers) writes...
>
>>	Anybody know when the new Depeche Mode album is coming out?  Surely 
>>there's a release date out there somewhere?  Maybe not.
>
>The latest from the owner of our only "alternative" record store is that the
>first single will be released in the spring and the album sometime in the 
>late summer.
>
>No one else has seemed to know much.

   I'm not on the DM mailing list any more, so this may not be the
latest word; if it isn't, I'm sure someone will correct me!  Last I
heard, the album is called _Songs of Faith and Devotion_ and has a
street date of Mar. 29.  The first single is "I Feel You," date Feb.
22.  Promo copies of the album have apparently been sent out and are
receiving airplay on some stations.

>Stephanie

Probably setting himself up for serious flamage,
Ethan
From: tcronin@ocf.berkeley.edu (Tom Cronin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Books on the Smiths
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:16:50 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <rutter.18@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu> rutter@mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu (John E. Rutter) writes:
>I remember reading in "Spin" (I think) that Morrissey said this book is 
>trash and that the author didn't contact him or anyone related to the band 
>for his information.  There is another book about the Smiths (if you're 
>interested) by Mick Middles entitled "The Complete Story: The Smiths" 
>revised and published just after the band's break-up in 87-88.  I have read 
>this and it's actually pretty good - no gossipy stuff, pretty much a 
>collection of most of the critical articles, interviews, reviews, etc. about 
>the Smiths from the first days to the last.  As expected, it has a lot of 
>glowing stuff, but also some negative reviews and occasional jabs at 
>Morrissey are thrown in to balance this out.  A pretty complete discography 
>is included at the end.  This might be more academic reading than the other 
>book, and you can find it at most big book stores.

       Johnny Rogan did interview Johnny Marr and some of Morrissey's
 old acquaintances, but it is quite obvious that Morrissey was not
 interviewed.  There is much speculation, and the quotes that are
 included are from other sources.  (Some of these, from the Australian
 radio interview disc, are misquoted, actually)
       "The Complete Story" is quite good.  The discography is not
 nearly as complete as that in "Severed Alliance", but it is quite
 helpful.
       If you want to know as much as you can about the lives and
 times of Andy, Mike, Morrissey, and Johnny, than The Severed Alliance
 would be good.  If you want to know about the band and their work,
 The Complete Story would be better.
		      Tom
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From: steffen@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE (Matthias Steffen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Are there good Indie clubs in Berli
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:43:39
Organization: FB3, TU-Berlin, Germany.
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In-reply-to: bo@igc.apc.org's message of 25 Jan 93 13:35:00 GMT

In article <1626800042@igc.apc.org> bo@igc.apc.org (Bo Orloff) writes:

   mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Chris) writes:

   >I'm going to Berlin for work in the next month or so and I was
   >wondering if anyone can reccommend some good clubs...

   Try:

   Loft-      +49 30 216 4122
   Metropol-  +49 3021531274	


Metropol is a large charts disco that's only sometimes used for all types
of concerts. Loft is is very good club at least as far as the music is 
concerned. No chance to get them on the phone execpt on concert days.
Best is to buy a copy of either "Zitty" or "Tip", local magazines that are
published every two weeks alternately. Both have a full list of 
theatres, cinemas and all concerts and an adress list. Of course they're in 
German but at least you'll be able to read the band names.

Matthias

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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: ride/charlatans "Polar Bear"
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:06:16 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Keith Watson (keithw@castle.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
> I agree (with the person from Glasgow). I saw Ride at the Barrowlands
> last year and they were crap. They didn't play Polar Bear, not that that
> would have made it any better. I went to see Verve, who were supposed to
> be supporting but didn't turn up... arse.

I agree strongly with Keith about Ride's lack of prowess on stage!

I've only ever fallen asleep in one gig and that was Ride... what a boring
bunch of faceless shoegazers they are; they don't seem to understand the first
thing about performing live... I was never a big fan of anything they've
recorded, but I was prepared to be convinced by them live, since I'd heard
people say they were pretty good on stage. I saw them here and was sooooooo 
bored I eventually nodded off in a corner, without the aid of any beer... 
they were completely demolished by the very good support band ``The 
Charlottes'' who I've never seen or heard anything of since!

pete
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From: phlegm@cs1.bradley.edu (Kevin Bourrillion)
Subject: Re: songs about trains...
Organization: Silvery Urban Deity
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:40:29 GMT

Also straying from alternative..
Train Kept A-rollin' by the Yardbirds.

Why are we doing this?  :)

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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Help - Indigo Girls??
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:55:04 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Kerry Rodden CS92 (krodden@cs.strath.ac.uk) wrote:
> In article <1jk24fINNbuc@shelley.u.washington.edu> volinsky@bert.stat.washington.edu (Christopher Volinsky) writes:
> >
> >By the way, although I love ROP, I do feel they absolutely butchered Romeo
> >and Juliet, which is originally a Dire Straits song which simply cannot be
> >improved upon. Anyone agree?
> >
> 
> Well, the vocal is a little over the top in places but apart from that it's
> not a bad cover - I'm not a huge fan of Mark Knopfler's 'singing' anyway, and
> at least Amy Ray does it with a bit of EMOTION!!!
> 
> Kerry

Hmmm, I tend to prefer Emily Saliers' vocals to Amy's, but Amy seems the
better songwriter to me; I'd be interested to know if Amy and Emily ever sing 
``each other's'' songs and what they sound like... 

pete
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From: jfw@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Lobo)
Subject: Pop Will Eat Itself
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:50:30 GMT

How many formats of Gat the Girl have been released worldwide????
The Pixies have split !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you heard of the Smashing Pumpkins In The US if so what has been
released????
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: apash@mta.ca
Subject: Re:  Pixies RIP?
Reply-To: apash@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:03:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan17.023103.2248@news.yale.edu>, (M Snow) writes:
>I don't know anything for sure, but a friend of mine from Birmingham was in
>Boston a while back with his band Volume. They stayed with Bullet Lavolta,
>and the word around town was that Kim and David Lovering were out of the
>band for sure. If they go I would assume so would the Pixies, although
>Black and Santiago might still record together.

	Does anyone know if Joey is involved with Frank Black ?
                                            A.Pash
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein)
Subject: Re: Velocity Girl Discography
Organization: swarthmore college
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:40:05 GMT

In article <2B6487FE.4503@ics.uci.edu>, bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian
K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
> 
>    For completists, There's a Velocity Girl track on a live comp called
>   "The Pre-Moon Syndrome" called "Blackzilla".
> 
Velocity Girl also has a cut on the Beat Happening tribute record "Fortune
Cookie Prize" which is worth checking out.  BTW, they're playing Thursday
evening the 28th at the Khyber Pass in Philadelphia.  See you there...

Stephen
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (Pete French)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Multicultural Flamage [was Re: Indie dance thing]
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:30:48 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

From article <1993Jan20.014907.2741@gallant.apple.com>, by jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com (Jens Alfke):
> Following the advice of "never make the same mistake twice", why don't
> we, when confronted with this kind of poison-keyboard note sent by a chum
> whose address ends in ".uk", simply take a moment to marvel at the
> endless variety of ethnic traditions and then reach for the Delete
> button. Actually responding in kind will just cause international
> incidents.

true enough - and its quite sad that the original article starting all this off
was from an American being complemetary about the British music scene. Ironic
really isnt it ?

-bat.


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