HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Estonia 15
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:41:28 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

Mr.Hietaniemi writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.221211.6886@cs.chalmers.se>, tammet@cs.chalmers.se 
(Tanel Tammet) writes:
>> In article <11953@sorley.ed.ac.uk> alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) 
writes:

   Hietaniemi:
>>>>It is the duty of Estonian nation to restitute the Estonian republic
>>>>that was violently occupied by Soviet Russia in 1940.
>>>
  Moiseyev:
>>>If these are the priorities, then *Estonian nations* are NATIONALISTS
>>before they are DEMOCRATS. 

  Tammet:
>> I cannot see why cannot the nationalism of restoring one's country
>> cannot coexist with democracy. 

>The word nationalism has a heavy metaphorical burden in Russian speaking
>parts of XUSSR. Perhaps one should avoid the term and use the
>term patrioticism instead.

Actually the word PATRIOTISM has recently become even more loaded than
Nationalism in certain Russian speaking parts of the former USSR.

And anyway, this is English.

>Finland is one good example of a nation where (bilingual) patrioticism
>and democracy co-exist. Visit us an experience it. Estonia will look
>the same after one or two generations, I suppose. At least, I hope so!

I would visit Finland, but I fear I might run into somebody like
Vorlund, who having identified me by my "Russian appearence" might
feel like celebrating again.

>> Please do not continue the practice of referring to noncitizens
>> residents of Estonia as "Estonian Russian-speakers". First, noncitizen
>> residents are in the same position disregarding their language.
>> Second, a noticeable percent of "Estonian Russian-speakers" are
>> Estonian citizens. I do not know exactly - it might be be between
>> 10% and 20% or so.

I would follow your recommendation but unfortunately that way we would
lose the most fundamental identifying feature of *noncitizen
residents*.  You may want to insist that this is not their EXCLUSIVE
identifying feature, but this is not all that important.  Russian
speakers in Estonia are almost complitely identified with noncitizen
residents, with only comparetively few exceptions.  Calling these
Russian speakers *noncitizen residents* is not acceptable to me.  It
is not acceptable because somehow this appears to me like condoning
the current situation.

>with best regards
>Tapani Hietaniemi, Universitas Helsingiensis
 >                  urbs fennorum
					With even better regards, A.M-T.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: E-Mail in the Ukraine
From: geno@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Geno)
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:32:38 -0600
Reply-To: geno@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

I am would like to know an e-mail address in or near Kharkov, Ukraine.  Surface mail to our correspondents in Losovaya, south of Kharhov, takes months.

Someone gave me astr@atec.kharkov.ua but it just bounced back.  

Any help would be appreciated.  Respond to my e-mail address.

Thanks

Geno
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 12:28:56 EST
From: TimeLord <X30KB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject:    A joke

   Vstrechaytsa dva druga. Ne videlis 10 let. Odin sprashivayet:
- Nu,kak dela? Chto podelyvayesh?
- Ya candidat fis-mat nauk, delayu cutchu deneg. A ty?
- Ya zarabatyvayu sebe na zhyzn s pomoshyu sporov.
- Kak tak?!
- Nu naprimer. Sporim na 1000$ ya ukushu svoi levyj glaz.
- Davaj.
  Sporstchik dostal steklyanny glaz, ukusil, vsunul na mesto i zabral dengy.
- A teper sporim na 5000$ ya ukushu svoj pravyj glaz.
  Pervuj drug dumaet:"Eto nevozmozhno. Ne mozhet u nego byt oba glaza
                     steklyannymi."
- Nu a teper sporim na 10000$ chto u menya 3 yaytza.
- Sporim!
  Pervyj drug zalez spostchiku rukoj v shtany - u togo 2 yaytza! On zabral
  svoyi dengi, a potom i sprashivayet:
- Vot ty znal chto proyigrayesh. Zatchem zhe ty sporil?!
- Vidish togo cheloveka v ugolke? Ya posporil s nim na 1,000,000$ chto
  chelovek priydet i poschupaet moyi yaytza.
qquit
- Davaj sporit!
  Sporstchik dostal iso rta iskusstvennuy chelust, ukusil svoj glaz y zabral
  dengy.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:10934 soc.culture.europe:10364 talk.politics.soviet:9626
From: t35123n@taltta.hut.fi (Yoghurt (Tapio Vorlund))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Mr.Vorlund's Nazi sentiments
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:54:37 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <11972@spark.ed.ac.uk> alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) writes:
...
>So far we have never had to deal with a BLATANTLY RACIST NAZI YOB on
...
>I just cannot imagine what a tweebish shlong such as yourself is doing
>talking of human rights.
...
>number of low-life scum amongst its populace.  And when people like
...
>Vorlund character.  Sure makes me glad though that Russia today is a
>powerful and democratic country, capable of defendind itself.
...
>themselves from the ober-stormtrooper Vorlund's views, and CONDEMN
...
>			DOWN WITH THE NAZI SCUM,

   Who is talking about human rights ? 

   I think the best system would be a worldwide dictatorship lead be me.
   I would get all the women and beer.

   This system would be the best for russians too. All you need is
   discipline and a dictator to love.

   And yes, Alexei. Your name is in my "black book". When the revolution 
   comes, you will seriously regret. But don't lose all your hope. You can
   still make a repentance and become my supporter. Perhaps I'll be
   generous and make you my court jester. (Of course I'll have to mutilate
   you a little to make you look funnier)

   BTW: Russian Independence is ILLEGAL. Russia Belongs to MONGOL KHANS!


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From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: TsK Archive research
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:16:53 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

I am interested in networking with anyone out there in NetLand who has
been conducting or plans to conduct research in the Central Committee
archives in Moscow.

I just finished three weeks of this and I plan to go back for more
when more documents are declassified. (* ASG)

One hint - if you are researching suppression of intellectuals, don't
expect extraordinary help from any librarian who still has "Tov."
on her office door. 

(* ASG = Assuming Stable Government, the default qualifier on
everything about Russia right now.)

I have left Moscow and am back in Pasadena wondering where is my
Metro station and how can I get to the center of the city to buy
Leningradskovo and walk around Revolution Square to watch the 
Fascist/Communist Love Festival Named After I.V. Stalin and then
go down underground to hear that accordion/saxophone duo play
"Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" and wonder about the woman who holds
a "Kuplyu Vaucher" sign in her left hand and a "Prodam Vaucher" 
sign in the right hand.

And I wonder what happened to the young guys who used to sell shashlik
on my streetcorner. Did they get run out by the Mafia, or did they get
enough money to buy into the Bolshevik Biscuit Factory, or did they buy
a kiosk of their own on Kuznetsky Most and now sell Italian leather boots,
men's bikini underwear, and cassette tapes of Abba, Donna Summer
and Vyssotsky?

And what about the five Buddhist monk who were praying for the Congress
on the steps of the Lenin Library?

And why does it have to be so damned *sunny* here and what is everyone
smiling about?

p.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi>
Subject: Re: RUSSIANS and FINNISH patriots (Was: Estonia 15)
Organization: Turku School of Economics
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 08:27:46 GMT

In article <15119.2b2e684f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> ,
viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>  Nobody cares which Finiks which sentiments have. What is more
>important is that among 5 Finiks participating on this list
>there are at least 3 complete idiots, one self-admitted liar,
>and the one which is still deciding which sex does _it_ have.
>Since some Finiks could combine some of these features,
>it leaves a room for Jarmo to fill in the vacancy left
>for a more or less decent personality. I'm personally inviting
>him to do so.

I think that this kind of language does not belong to
a respected representative of Russian intelligentsija -
it must be a comrade lost its identity.

Mr. Olli-Jukka Paloneva
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: prostuzhena
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:12:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1ggmp1INNgqp@agate.berkeley.edu> alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu writes:

> New subject: lekarstvo ot prostudy
> Expires: I hope it will work soon!!!
> 
> Body of message:
> /margaret@glas.apc.org/h:j  
> 
> Conclusion: I like my KILL file
> Epilogue: no more margaret... vsxlip, vsxlip
> 
> 
> Shura the Green Snake Worshipper

I wish you could put P.M.S herself in your kill file, not only the name...

Greg
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Malen'kij vopros
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:51:21 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Pravil'no ili nyet:

Familiyu 'Rutskoj', govoryat 'rut-SKOJ'.

Amerikanskoe novosti-agentstvo 'Associated Press' govorit 'RUTS-koj'.

--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have known it would be bad vodka when all the label said was
'Russian Vodka'."
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11167 talk.politics.soviet:9769 soc.culture.europe:10518
From: alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Political Freedom
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:38:40 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK


Yury Mukharsky writes:
In article <12049@kesson.ed.ac.uk> alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) writes:
>>unacceptible.  In some countries populations elect their own goverments
>>and in some they don't.  
>May I ask why?

Well, in some countries there are no constraints on the population
expressing their political will, and in some there are.  In some
countries people can affect policies of gov-ts and which gov-ts are in
power by exercising their right to vote.  In these countries gov-ts do
not use intimidation or legislation to disfranchise the population;
the gov-ts or political parties here agree to be responsive to the
will of the population.  On the other hand there are countries where
gov-ts retain there position of power irrespective of the approval of
the majority, or a very large minority, of the population.  
Here the will of the population is supressed using either violent
means, as in Kambodia, legal means, as in Estonia, or a combination of
the two as in South Afrifca.  

I hope this is illuminating.
>Yury M.
						Alexei M-T.
From: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:16:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec17.201637.18641
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <1992Dec16.201024.584@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> svlissia@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>Hello, everybody !

>Have you already heared the last release of BG ?
>They call it "The history of Aquarium, vol. III ". It is a pleasant surprise
>for everybody who likes our good old Bob, 'cause it proves that "Aquarium's"
>collapse did really good.

	This is not exactly the last release, because the tape
	with it was around from 1989 as a bootleg, but 
	only recently (this spring) released "officially".


[ deletions ]
	

>Beginning of the song "Hunting on the unicorns" is, I think, exactly the
>way he wanted "Aquarium" to sound all the time. Just the technical level
>of the guys from his new band is much much higher than of those ever played
>in A.

	yeah, that's a great song. BTW, the version on this
	tape is live, from a 1987 (+- 1 year) concert.
	I can confuse to recordings (I don't have that one handy),
	but I faintly remember a Kussul's viola there, and if
	it's true than the recording is even more dated.
	Needless to say, the Unicorn's Hunt was written in 
	1985.

	So your compliment to the technical proficiency
	of BG recent band (which have nothing to do with
	A. and even is not called Aquarium) is slightly
	misaimed :)

>Of course, this album is far behind A's best, but remember "Equinox",
>complete step back, nightmare of all the "Aquarium's" fans. Now we see, that
>BG is still alive, though R&R is dead.
>It would be nice to hear your opinion. 

	Yea, Equinox is a true nightmare, something I'd
	never buy or listen. Anyway, BG current releases
	are far of being as good as Aquarium was, though
	some songs are excellent. Note that some of his best songs
	of this formation (like "uzhe proshlo 7-oe noyabrya" -
	"November 7-th ended" - written in 1982) are written
	long ago (even in 70-ies).
 
	Misha.


"Uzhe proshlo 7-oe noyabrya
Zatikhli zvuki obshchego veselya
No kto-to dvizhetsya krugami
Vsyo vokrug tam, gde stoyu ya:
Dolzhno byt', angel vsenarodnogo pokhmel'ya.

Kryla visyat, kak mokrye usy
I veet chem-to tikho i tosklivo
No vot uzh b'yut v kremlyovskoi bashne
Pozolochionye chasy
I grazhdane strany zhelayut piva..."
From: HAUGLAND@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Dark Lord Worshippers in Russia
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:18:37 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

Could you please fill me in on the background of the Golitsyn family and why
they would be the object of desecration?  Thanks.
                                                 Laurie
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Is Russian vodka bad?
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:53:48 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Dec19.214422.6149@polaris.utu.fi>, opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva) writes:
...........
> Also I am interested to hear can anybody name better Russian
> vodka than pshenizhnaja?
> 
> -olli-

What about Posol'skaia?  Or Stolichnaia Osobaia (50%)?

they are better (I think) than Pshenichnaia.

Michael Martynov.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
From: nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev)
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:28:38
 > <1992Dec15.000236.18498@husc3.harvard.edu><BzBEA9.9yx@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Organization: The Kremlin Wall of Harvard
In-reply-to: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu's message of Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:03:45 GMT

LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg) writes:

> In <1992Dec15.000236.18498@husc3.harvard.edu>
> verbit@birkhoff.harvard.edu writes:

>> Pravil'no, Sergei! Lipshitsa pora kastrirovat', da i drugogo
>> vashego opponenta tozhe by ne hudo... No kakaya svoloch' etot
>> Lipshits! Posylaet po pyat' kopii odnoi mudatskoi stat'i, a potom
>> eshcho desyat' kopii s tsitatami bez edinoi svoei strochki. Zhalko
>> chto Kornell ne v Keimbridzhe, a to by ya etogo Lipshitsa
>> sobstvennoruchno kastriroval by.
>> 
>> Misha.

> I could give you a ride there. Still want to go? :-)

Put Harvard back into your killfile.

> Greg

Philip Nikoplayev
nikolay@husc.harvard.edu
From: peter@OUZO.BROOKS.AF.MIL ("Peter G. Petropoulos")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: test
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:35:49 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>


   test
From: muh@physics1 (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Date: 19 Dec 1992 22:12:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics1.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec19.001335.18691@husc3.harvard.edu> verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky) writes:
>
>	called "Pyatnadtsat' Bab" (Fifteen Women),

I would translate it "Fifteen Ladies" :).

Yury M.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: kilman2y@fiu.edu (Yevgeny Kilman)
Subject: RELAX - Porutchik Rjevski!
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:13:13 GMT
Followup-To: sender

Gospoda!

Ne uje li vi zabili o porutcheke Rjevskom?
Nadeus' prochest' chto nibud' novoe iz etoi serii


--Porutchik, A pravad li chto v molodosti vi bili chlenom suda?
--Eh, molodost'-molodost'..... Chlenom s'uda, chlenom tuda...

Gene.
From: vfishel@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (Victoriya Fishel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: ANECDOTES -- Brezhnev
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:59:34 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

Another anecdote about Breznev:

Breznev says at the meeting 'Idea!'
Everyone asks him 'Leonid Il'ich, Kakaya idea?'
He goes again 'Idea!'
Everyone  'Kakaya idea?
Breznev  ' I gde eto ya?'


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: "Drugs" threaten democracy in former Soviet Union
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:26:22 GMT

oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
: In article <1992Dec9.205714.3778@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: >Wrong. Clinton wants to set up work camps for juvenile drug users.
: 
: I do not recall hearing anything about that.  

He made the statement - several times. He believe that the drug laws and
courts saved his brother's life.

: >Even Bush, in all  his stupidity, did not make any such an assinine proposal.
: 
: Bush and his Supreme Court had suspended a number of constitutional
: freedoms in the name of WOD.  Abrogation of rights to privacy, due
: process, habeas corpus, protection from unreasonable and blank order
: searches; zero tolerance, foreign intervention, ban on medicinal and
: humane use of marijuana, mandatory sentencing, etc. -- all these are
: the results Reagan/Bush adminstrations attempts to misdirect the public's
: attention from the real crimes (the plague of tax policy assksted LBOs,
: S&L collapses, looming banking system collapse, Iran-Contra-cocain trade).

Agreed. I wonder if Clinton will work to change any of them? He did not
seem to mention any of them in his speaches.

: A "work camp" is a better choice than the overcrowded juvenile and federal
: prisons, and a much better choice than the Darryl Gates and his ilk
: cheerleading the sympathetic Administration to shoot drug offenders on
: sight.

Except, the courts have ruled that physical labor is "unjust punishment".
Why should it be allowed for juvenile offenders, but not adults?

: Clinton was not my choice for President, but he's a better choice than
: Bush.

I hope so.

: >If you expect a decrease in the WOD hysteria, it will not be due to Clinton.
: 
: Granted, the WOD has a momentum that will not quickly come to a grinding
: halt.  Reagan and Bush spent $8-12 billions a year for 10 yeasr or so to
: whip up the paranoya that has gripped the nation so hard that people really
: did think in '90-'91 that drugs were *the* major problem with this country.
: 
: But without the political agenda that thought to obscure the more relevant
: but harder to understand and deal with issues, will WOD continue shredding 
: the Constitution?  I hope not.

I feel the same way. Unfortunately, I do not hold out much hope.

Bill
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi>
Subject: Re: Umom ne
Organization: Turku School of Economics
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
     <1992Dec11.210145.12429@polaris.utu.fi>
     <Bz4E03.I5n@max.physics.sunysb.edu> <11340@prijat.cs.uofs.edu>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 02:29:34 GMT

In article <11340@prijat.cs.uofs.edu> Michael A Martinov,
mam18@sparrow.cs.uofs.edu writes:
>
Ha otvet:"Poshivjom - uvidem! Umom v Rossiju ne ponjat, arshinom obshim
he ismerit..."
And I am not true believer of it like F. Tjutjev.

Bog c Bami pravoslavnye!

- Olli-Jukka Paloneva -
From: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RENAME ?!! some braindead proposals...
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:37:42 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <BzEqIH.CCA.1@cs.cmu.edu>, smir+@CS.CMU.EDU (Yury Smirnov) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.101002.1@jaguar.uofs.edu>, mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu writes:
>|> In article <1992Dec14.124222.476@rivers>, acs_anshakov@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
 
>|> Let me try to predict the topics which would appear in January-February:
>|> "Estonia 238", "RELAX: Krasnaia Shapochka", "Rozhdestvenskii luchshe chem
>|> Pushkin", "Antisemitism na Chukotke", "Zatknite Vulisa", "Looking for
>|> e-mail address in Tula" etc. etc.
>|> 
>|> Would somebody think of anything new and refreshing.  As for me, I'm tired
>|> of Estonia discussion, and I'm almost out of "new" jokes.  Sorry, I don't
>|> have enough imagination myself, but I do see some people on the net, who
>|> have creative type of mind.  Com'n, guys.  Think of something!!!  
>|> 
>|> We make our group SOVIET, not it's name!
>|> 
>|> 
>|> Michael Martynov.
>
> Nowadays the rate of degradation is so high
>in Russia ( either educated people left away or the present society cannot 
>produce the necessary amount to compensate this process ), that a new Russian
>culture is associated with something like speech of Ruslan Khazbulatov about
>a democratic movement on a background of naked girls accompanied by Alisa band
>playing "Bozhe Tzarya Hrani". 
>
>   Yury
>

OK, I don't like Khasbulatov either, but why you are opposed to girls?
Some of them are kinda cute. Kostya Kinchev probably would neither sing
"Bozhe Tsarya Khrani" nor accompany any exotic dances, but, taken separately,
"Bozhe Tsarya Khrani", Alisa and dancing females are not bad. Also all this 
must be presented in a warm apartment with lots of food and, hmm, beverages.
BTW, Kinchev and Khasbulatov (may Kostya forbid me putting his name together 
with...) are definitely products of Sovok, the hymn was written long before 
the revolution, and girls... oh, them lasses...  

Oops, I wanted to say something meaningful.

I propose to rename SOC.CULTURE.SOVIET into SOC.CULTURE.SOVOK. It will
be an adequate and nice-sounding name, and let one who hath understanding
reckon what it means. Also I propose that it should be moderated. Not in
the usual USENET sense (too much work), just let somebody look through
the articles and from time to time deny the right to post anything to those
who f**k around too much. This option could also serve as a good 
mudlu-filter. Any other suggestions?



-- 
---
Thus spake Kalmoth the Dreaded, Bane of the Forests of Gnoy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: prostuzhena
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:45:31 GMT
 <1ggmp1INNgqp@agate.berkeley.edu>

  In article <1ggmp1INNgqp@agate.berkeley.edu>,
  alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko) writes:

>New subject: lekarstvo ot prostudy
>Expires: I hope it will work soon!!!
>
>Body of message:
>/margaret@glas.apc.org/h:j  
>
>Conclusion: I like my KILL file
>Epilogue: no more margaret... vsxlip, vsxlip
>
>
>Shura the Green Snake Worshipper
>
>
>
>-- 
>These fits of depression are torturing me
>The lives that I seen won't breath again
>A sad child of madness, they will never be free
>Born again to die, the agonies begin...
>		 -W.A.S.P. "The Heretic."
>

  So what is this "green snake" anyway?

                                   
                                                             adam