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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:12:47 -0500 
From: Patricia Villalobos <pl1k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Venice/Art/International

AD HOC

Did you know you have a space in Venice?

In Venice there is a vast garden containing twenty-eight buildings of
radically different architectural style.  This spectacular waterfront
property remains vacant and wasted for the majority of the time - closed
with a stone gate that you can jump over - except for a single event
held in the summer every two years.  This garden belongs to the state of
Italy but each building is owned by the country that designed and built
it.  This is a place originally dedicated to international communication
and exchange through the language of art.  It is currently inhabited
only by cats and insects.

What if we open the stone gate?

We are asking you to consider your position in relation to your
country's pavillion.  Who has the key?  What if artists in each country
take responsibility to activate their own pavillion when it is usually
closed?  Maybe this year two pavillions will be opened, maybe next year,
five, and the year after that, fifteen.

You are invited to act.

Send this letter to others.  Ask questions.  Contact Ad Hoc to find a
representative in your country.  Your interaction can initiate an
irresistible change in the use of the Biennale garden.  Rather than a
display cabinet for state controlled art politics, it can become a place
for experiment and creative exchange.

AD HOC representatives in countries with pavillions:
Austria:
Belgium:
USSR (sic):
Egypt:
Denmark:
Great Britain:
Brasil:
Canada:
France:
Japan:
Greece:
Iceland:
Israel:
Italy: San Marco 1776, Venice, 30124 - phone/fax: 39-41-5234615
Yugoslavia (sic):
Netherlands:
Finland:
Norway:
Sweden:
Poland:
Federal Republic of Germany (sic):
Rumania:
Spain:
United States: 7002 N. Clark St., Chicago, IL, 60626 - phone/fax: 312-761-7144
Switzerland:
Uruguay:
Hungary:
Venezuela:

If your country does not have a pavillion, contact someone in a country
that is not yet represented.  


Posted-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:03:19 -0600
Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:02:25 CST
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:03:19 -0600
From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: FAQL: FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS LIST for rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: alpha@hubcap.clemson.edu (Shekhar Borde)
Subject: Re: sad news
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:04:25 GMT

buc@world.std.com (Quantum Buc) writes:

>jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes:

>> In article <1g3ag4INNkn6@parsifal.umkc.edu> (Tom J. Tasset) writes:

>> >[Jean Rodanbary is dead...]

>> Um, people...  I could be wrong here, but I think the person who
>> posted this decided, "Hey, let's do something to get those Trekkies
>> riled up.  What can we do?  Oh, yeah!  Let's pretend like we just
>> found out Roddenberry's dead!  And let's misspell things all over the
>> place!  Yeah!"

>Gee. Between you and me, it sure seems to have worked! How many flames have
>their been so far? I've seen about 5 or six in the last hour!

>> Please.  Ignore him.  Maybe he'll go away...

>I'll tell you. I've been reading rec.arts.startrek (pre .* days) for around
>8 or so years now (rather quietly), and the one thing that has never
>changed is the lack of ability in most (certainly not ALL) Trek fans to
>ignore an obvious attempt at having a stick poked through their cages.

>Ah well.


>Alas poor Jean, I knew him not.


>PS. I wonder of Magel Rodanbary has gotten the news yet?
                ^^^^^^^
                   |
                   |
       I think the correct spelling is "Maygel Rodanbary".   ;-)

>-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter)
Subject: Re: Query: Borg Action Figure
Organization: Skunk Works Software Co.
	<mbecke69.724094226@ursa> <92346.175809U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:19:05 GMT

In article <92346.175809U16028@uicvm.uic.edu> <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Now if I can only find those other Playmates ST:TNG items.

Skip their combadge...a friend bought one and ended up giving it to
his little brother.  The thing's about twice as large as it should be,
the chirping sound still isn't right (it's a little closer than the
soundboards found at cons, though), and worst of all--the damn thing
lights up when you tap it!  There are a couple or three LEDs behind
the silvered part that light up when the combadge is
activated...tacky-looking and 100% unauthentic.

  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu
 / v \  Call the Skunk Works BBS today!           Ask me about SoftDAC--digital
(IIGS(  (702) 894-9619 300-14400 V.32bis          audio for your Apple IIe/IIc!
 \_^_/  --==## "Apple II Forever" is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. ##==--
From: dgreen@thor (David Greenebaum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: troi
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:21:43 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
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In article <rchan.2s3s@terapin.com> rchan@terapin.com (Ronald Chan) writes:
> ] Eric.Troup@ofa123.fidonet.org:
> ]Well, if ya think about it, Geordi also has a slight advantage
> ](sarcasm on slight) in poker, what with his VISOR and all.  I mean,
> ]you'd think he'd have no trouble figuring out when Rikeras bluffing,
> ]based on the incrase of heart-rate or heat and things of that
> ]nature--a human polygraph.  (Wasn't this covered in one of the
> ]novels?)
>that's if you believe in polygraphs, which are fringe science at best.  If
>Riker has good control over his physiological reactions, he can fool the VISOR
>as well as a polygraph.  

More to the point, unless the cards are VERY SPECIAL, he could most
likely read through them, and not have to worry about whether or not
Riker could fool a polygraph.  I mean, the guy can see neutrinos...
Now, if he's going to play fair, he "shuts down" the bits of his
VISOR that let him see all that neat stuff.  If he can do that, which
I've never heard one way or the other about.

---------------------
 |\  | |\  |\  |// |
 | > | |\\ | \ |/  |   David Greenebaum/University of California/Berkeley, CA
 |<  | | \ |   |   |   dgreen@athena.berkeley.edu, dgreen@garnet.berkeley.edu
 | > | |   |   |   |
 |/  | |   |   |   |   "I make mistakes, but I am on the side of good -- by
---------------------  accident and happenchance." -- the Golux
Posted-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:02:33 -0600
Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:01:31 CST
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:02:33 -0600
From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TREK RATE results (TOS)
From: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Trivia question
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:28:32 GMT
Reply-To: schwarts@cps.msu.edu (Steven Eric Schwartz)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
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Originator: schwarts@atlantic.cps.msu.edu



First planet found with life besides Earth I believe was Alpha Centauri.



-- 
Steven Eric Schwartz            "It's not safe out here. It's wonderous, with
(schwarts@cps.msu.edu)           treasures to satiate desires both subtle and
125 East Wilson Hall, MSU        gross.  But it's not for the timid."
East Lansing, Michigan  48825                           - Q, "Q Who"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: pierce@admiral.uucp (Clinton Pierce)
Subject: Re: More mnemonics
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:20:46 GMT

In article <1gjf2jINN1f1@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> mjb@mulka (Michael Beeching) writes:
>I heard this resistor code mnemonic somewhere
>
>Bad Booze Rots Our Young Guts, But Vodka Goes Well.
>
>Michael

Actually, I heard it as:
 
Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls, But Violet Gives Willingly.
 
And it's MUCH less correct....

(Sorry, Are we off-topic yet?)
From: njzy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (T. Joseph Lazio, Cornell University)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: "Visit to a Weird Planet"
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:05:24 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University


 I was re-reading _Star Trek:  The New Voyages_ last night.  One
 of the stories is "Visit to a Weird Planet Revisited," in which 
 Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelly get beamed on board the Enterprise 
 and mistaken for Kirk, Spock, and McCoy (some type of 
 inter-dimensional gateway or something).  All in all, it's a 
 fairly humorous story.

 As the name of the story suggests, this story is based on 
 a story "Visit to a Weird Planet," by J. Lorrah and H. ?.
 Does anybody know how to get one's hands on a copy of 
 VtaWP?  Thanks in advance.

-- 
 T. Joseph Lazio                | Why relativity? and Why  
 514 Space Sciences             | turbulence?  I really believe   
 Ithaca, NY  14853-6801         | [God] will have an answer for the
 (607) 255-6420                 | first [question].
 lazio@astrosun.tn.cornell.edu  |   -- W. Heisenberg, on his death bed
ICBM:                           |
 42 deg. 20' 08" N              |              STOP RAPE
 76 deg. 28' 48" W              |
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: davez@brahms.udel.edu (David Micha Zlotkin)
Subject: Re: Trivia question
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:23:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.212857.22746@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> dixonm@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Melissa Dixon) writes:
>Can anyone tell me...
>
>a.)  When the Federation was founded
>B.)  When the Federation first found life on a planet other than
>     Earth?
>
>Just a post to this group will be fine.  Thank you!
>
>Melissa

    According to 'The Worlds of the Federation', Alpha Centauri was the first
inhabited worled encountered. It took place (on the Terran calander) in 2048.
It doesn't say exactly when the Federation was formed, but it must have taken
place between 2048 and 2100. The Federation was formed at the Interplantery
Conference at Babel. Founding planets were Terra (Earth), Vulcan, Alpha
Centauri, Tellar and Andor.

							Dave

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Universal translaters-
Reply-To: baylor@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 23:49:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.000428.12192@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
>Why do they always (well 95+% of the time) exaplain these things in novels,
>but the episodes always seem to forget to explain it?
>
Be serious. There's time in the novels! How long does it take you 
to read one? How fast do you read? Assuming you read faster than
you speak, which is true for most of us, how many equivalent 
hours of TV time would that be to tell exactly the same story in
exactly the same way? TV will never replace books!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: rccarm00@nx19.mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: Other Shows or Movies
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx19.mik.uky.edu!rccarm00
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:57:24 GMT

mazzolav@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Schlomo) writes:

>	I was wondering if there are any other movies that the cast of TNG
>has done.  Trivia Question:  What movie was Patrick Stewart in before
>doing TNG?

   Here we go again... ;)

RC Carman


--
/=======================================================================\ 
|     Ron C. Carman          ||  Quantum physicists get all the girls.  |
| rccarm00@mik.uky.edu       ||  Al.  Is he live, or is he a hologram?  | 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144)
Subject: Re: sad news
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:46:42 GMT

> Even though this is supposed to be a festive season, I bring you all bad
> news.
>
> Jean Rodanbary is dead.
>
> I heard that he passed away recently and didn't know if you all knew.  I've
> been an avid Star Trek fan for years, I especially love the New Generation.
> Data is so cool I love his hair.  Anyway a friend of mine just informed me
> and I didn't know if you all knew that Jean had died since I hadn't heard of
> it and I wanted to make sure that you all knew.
>
> I'm sorry as I know you are to.

Either this guy is joking or he has been away for AWHILE!

By the way...The guy's name was Gene Roddenberry.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: fskanes@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: trekiie rank and uniform colors
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:18:06 GMT

 Hi. her's a question that we have been pondering at the homestead for
a while. In the Next Generation and the original what (if any) is the
relevance of the colors of the uniforms and rank? Kirk wore red?yellow?
We've seen gordi in variuos colors as well. Anyhow, if possible reply
by e-mail or post. thanks..     fskanes@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: mart4678@mach1.wlu.ca (Phil Martin u)
Subject: Re: Universal translaters-
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:14:39 GMT

garth r sweet (sweet@ug.cs.dal.ca) wrote:
: cs202144 (cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu) wrote:
: > I don't remember if any ST:TNG novels mention this, but since ST:TOS novels
: > mention it it must certainly hold true for an even more advanced version of
: > the universal translator...
: > 
: > Anyway since it obviously cannot read minds being a machine, it can still
: > read brain waves. If about 3 people from the same race, speak the same
: > language for a few hours the universal translator will gain tons of
: > gramatical rules and idioms it can use to translate from one language to the
: > other.
: > 
: > When the Enterprise meets a race, expecially a non-human looking (humanoid
: > but definately not human or even close) for the first time and they know
: > english that is wierd...The translator cannot translate a language that quick
: > without even hearing a few words of the alien tounge to determine if it is
: > a language that the computer might even know.
: > 
: > Why do they always (well 95+% of the time) exaplain these things in novels,
: > but the episodes always seem to forget to explain it?
: > 
: 
: 	The Universal Translator is just the best example of something
: that HAD to be added to the show to try and explain why all aliens spoke
: English, there is no scientific bases behind it, no machine can 
: possibly translate the speach of a new alien race immediatly from word 1,
: let alone make thier lips look like they speak English, and how about all
: the instances where the away team is on a planet surface and yet can
: understand and speak with aliens. This one is one that will just have to
: be ignored, not explained with some pseudo-science. My question is why
: did they even try to explain how communication is possible, I would've
: just ignored it as it's something that is a big story hole. Unless
: they just wanted something that would keep the techno-peasants 
: satisfied, and amuse us :-)
: 
: 	Likewise, we'll never see really mobile, nimble and animated
: aliens on the show unless they are humanoid, we won't see 6 armed 
: aliens wondering around working with all 6 hands just as well as the
: humanoid people do with there's simply because it isn't feasable in
: terms of budget, and believability. Hence aliens are usually humanoid,
: a gelatinous blob, energy like, or really stiff :-) 
: 
Hooray! Someone 'in the know'! It pleases me to see postings like this, 
especially about the UT (the gayest by-product of the show's sixties' origin)

My question, though, is WHY THE HELL DOES THE KLINGON HIGH COUNCIL SPEAK
ENGLISH WHENEVER PICARD OR WORF GO TO VISIT? I especially like how they
revert to Klingon when they want to sear at each other!

Just my self-indulgent rambling... I try not to miss the TNG's, although I
find it really hard to sit through a TOS.

Phil Martin.
From: aj341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Doggett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: ST:TNG Episode list
Date: 16 Dec 1992 09:53:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Doggett)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone out there have a complete list of episode names and
stardates?  (Peferrably including to 6th season if possible) 
Please reply via email.  Thanks in advance...

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott)
Subject: Re: Universal translaters-
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:28:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.165724.6011@neb> prp@neb (Paul Peterson) writes:
>
>We all know that the various and sundry alien races do not really
>speak English, but their speech is converted to English by the
>"Universal Translator" in the Big E-s computer and vice-versa to
>enable communication between species.
>
>So, with all this capability to communicate with diverse species,
>how come we never see Spot having anything to say?  Any thoughts?

Anybody who is a cat owner can give a reply to that.  Probably all Spot would
ever say is:

"I'm hungry! feed me!"
"Yuk! that cat food is terrible.  Give me tuna."
"I'm bored.  Play with me."
"I want attention.  Pet me."
"You sure were gone a long time.  Don't leave me again."
"I know I'm not supposed to claw the sofa, but its SOOOO tempting!"
"Wow! that sure is a big hairball I coughed up."
"I caught this mouse just for you.  Isn't it a beauty?"
"I feel like running around like crazy now."
"You humans sure do crazy things."

--
Joel Iott
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: cnk@rgm.com (Claims No Knowledge)
Subject: Re: Sex or Trek
Organization: RGM *nix - Sacramento, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:53:46 GMT

cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Myself, I'd go for the ladder, but then I don't believe in premarital sex...

>					CtB
>--
>Oh, I hate tryin' to be witty in these things!	   |
>So I'm even going to try. And if you don't like it,|
>Tough! 	(Thank you had have a nice day)	         |    cboerm48@calvin.edu
>																   |

How do you have sex with ladders?

Do tell.

P.S.  former--->latter

8^)  (I wear glasses)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jwells@netcom.com (Court Jester)
Subject: Yet another action figure observation!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:21:13 GMT

I was at the local Toys R Us today, and noticed that they have
upped the price on Playmate's action figures from the original
$4.99 to a buck more. They now sell for $5.99 retail it seems.
Maybe it's just the Xmas rush... *shrug* =)

-- 
     || (||)  The Court Jester               "Citizens of the planet
     ||       From the House of Xon   \    /  Earth...  We bring you
  () || ()                             \  /   greetings, and we come
     ||       jwells@netcom.netcom.com  \/    in peace."
(||) ||   wells@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu       "Resist.... or perish!"
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Subject: Star Trek Christmas Gift Ideas
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:15:26 GMT

From a parody I posted back in 1991 [copyright 1991]:  Here are some 
Christmas gift ideas for the Klingon fan in your life!
=================

[...]

Also, don't miss out on the following:

Item:           Description:                            Cost:

KL154           Knobbily forehead                       $10.95
KL331           Bristly eyebrows                        $1.49.pr
KL114           "Gowron Goofy Eyes"                     $5.95/pr
KL40D           Klingon female "falsies"                $9.95/pr
KL986           Assorted nasty-looking weapons (spec.)  CALL US!
KL187           Really disgusting false teeth           $4.95/set of 23 teeth
                                                        (13 upper, 10 lower,
                                                         random positions
                                                         and orientations)
KL783           "Long-hair-combed-like-Patrick-Riley's"
                 Klingon wig                            $15.95
KL234           "Impress the chicks" shoulder sash
                 (specify color: silver/gold)           $20.95
KL156           Klingon tea set                         $5.95/set of 2
KL157           Klingon tea antidote                    $213.61/gram

[...]
================

Buy now and avoid the Christmas rush!  Happy holidays...
-- 
Matt Gertz, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu
Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University.
From: rick@daffodil.tymnet.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re:Mnemonics
Keywords: When I was a kid, I took music lessons from  a nun who taught
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:12:27 GMT
Organization: BT North America, San Jose, CA

me to memorize the order of sharps using
"Father Charles Goes Down And Ends Battle"

...flats using
"Battle Ends And Down Goes Father Charles"

I know it has nothing to do with Trek but since everyone
else seems to be doing it....


"Live long but only if you can prosper."




---------------------
"ad astra per aspera"
From: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Most bizarre cross postin
Date: 19 Dec 92 10:26:00 GMT
Reply-To: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

T >While eating very good McDonalds Value Meals (two with Big Macs and

That was excellent.  More, more!!
LLAP


--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0
From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Dr. Pulaski
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:08:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec16.230809.18595
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

What is the general consensus on the net regarding Dr. Pulaski?  Would
anyone like to see an episode in which she guest stars?  What is the
reason her character left the show (not Diana Muldaur, that I know, but
the reason, plot-wise, why Dr. Pulaski left?)  I thought that "Ethics"
might have been a pretty good episode had the writers subsitituted
Dr. Pulaski for the unethical doctor.  It might have made for
some interesting interactions between Pulaski and Crusher, and would
have been in character for both of them.  Comments?

Chris
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:12567 alt.binaries.pictures.d:5837
From: alsu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alan Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.binaries.pictures.d
Subject: Star Trek GIF's?
Date: 13 Dec 1992 07:18:23 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu


(I hope I'm posting this to the right newsgroups...)
Does anyone know of an anonymous FTP source out there for Star Trek (the
Next Generation or otherwise) GIF's?  Thanks in advance.
--
-alan su
-alsu@ocf.berkeley.edu
-- 
-alan su
-alsu@ocf.berkeley.edu
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