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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 07:58:01 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Leaving a puppy alone - bad idea?
Comment-To: All@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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 * Replying to a message originally to All
 * Replying to a message originally from John Stafford
 > I've decided to put off getting a dog because I now live
 > alone and have no other animals in the area and I just
 > don't know how a puppy would fare when left alone for
 > 8 to 10 hours a day.  In the past, my puppys were never
 > alone for more than a few hours at a time.
 > 
 > I can provide an otherwise good environment for the pup;
 > food, fresh (running) water, shelter, a large fenced in
 > area (my home is a retired farm) and so forth but is 
 > this enough?
 > 
 > How about getting _two_ pups?  Would they be company
 > enough for each other while I am gone?
 > --- rfmail 1.1.J
 >  * Origin: Orphan Board West  fido <-> unix gateway
 > (1:202/723)
      Two pups would be a better choice here than one pup.  They would
indeed keep each other company.  Maybe you could look into some of the
livestock guarding breeds like the Komondor or the Anatolian Shepard. 
These dogs were bred to operate on a minimal amount of human contact.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Subject: Re: Name the Puppy Contest...)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:03:25 GMT

In article <1gb0o5INN4a7@kumquat.cs.utk.edu> primeaux@carlsberg.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux) writes:
>In another post, Marla Belzowski   saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu says:
>
>[ bunches of literary references deleted for sake of bandwidth ] 
>
>|> Another source of good names can be found in works by Johnathan Swift.
>|> You may also look in works by R. Kipling, and Herman Melville.
>|> OR even David Copperfield.  
>|> 
>|> Hope these help!
>
>
>Am I missing something?  Perhaps a body of literature prestidigitized away
>with aid of smoke and mirrors?  I've seen David Copperfield's act and was
>pretty amazed at some of his -- dare I say it -- "tricks", but I never knew
>he was an author!
>				-- Fagan

It's not the same Copperfield.  (Perhaps I have the first name wrong, but I'm 
pretty sure it was David).  I remember vaguely reading a book by Copperfield
about running away to join the circus.  I believe it was called "The Life
of David Copperfield" but I could be wrong.  I read it while I was in Fifth     
grade so things are kind of fuzzy in the brain.  :)

----
Marla B.
From: thuyan@ravel.udel.edu (Thuy-An Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Cold Feet
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:17:06 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

This may be a really silly question, but here goes:

I am moving and my 5 year old Husky will have to stay outside in the
day.  She is used to being inside all day, but due to various
circumstances, she will be outside now.

Will her feet get cold?  What can I do to help her out?  \
thanks

Thuy-An
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Snow Dogs
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:35:17 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Sounds like fun! Maybe I can try it.  
Random


Not in my house, pest.
Gaia


Stupid dogs!
Daryl


From: mledna@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Matt Ledna)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 17:56:26 GMT
Subject: Re: A collection of Off-Leash Areas in the SF Bay Area
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs


  My favorite : Sunol/Ohlone regional wilderness.  Take hwy 680 to Calaveras
                road (near Hwy 84 exit).  Virtually unlimitted hiking trails
                with very few people and usually just a few friendly dogs on
                the trail.  Complete with cattle, squirrels, swimming holes
                and ticks ;-(.  Fees : $2 parking; $1 for the mutt.

Matt Ledna
mledna@corp.hp.com
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: More on the neurotic Dachshund.
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:25:00 GMT
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  This case if the Dachund that is attacking the children is not a
case for professional animal trainers, writers, veterinarians Or two
bit hacks.
  A mouse mother has sense enough to protect her babies.  You have
said unkind things to me for pointing this out.  I will refrain from
voicing what I think about your common sense.
--- FMail 0.92
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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: allergies
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:59:51 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

In article <1992Dec14.195552.28484@sierra.com> jhill@sierra.com (Julie Hill)
writes:
>After a year of having my Bloodhound off and on Prednisone, I finally had
>allergy tests done on her.  I found out that she's allergic to wheat, rice,
>corn, soybeans, and several pollens and molds.  ...........................
>the question for you people out in r.p.d land is, do you know of any
>commercially available dogsfoods that use barley or potatoes as it base?

Yes. Here are some choices:
Sensible Choice Adult: Lamb meal, brewers rice, rice flour, poultry fat,
brewers dried yeast....
Should be available where Wayne Pet Foods are sold, or call 1-800-592-6687.

Nature's Recipe Lamb Meal, Rice & Barley Kibble Dog Food: Lamb meal, ground
whole brown rice, cracked pearl barley, lamb fat, lamb digest, tomato pomace..
Call 1-800-843-4008 to locate a dealer near you. Also available is a
vension-based kibble, instead of lamb, but including barley.

Other hypo-allergenic foods are likely available from your vet, such as Wysong
Anergen.

Marget Johnson

-- 

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From: moyman@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Moya)
Subject: Re: Hardwood Floors and Dogs
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:26:36 GMT

In article <1gt1taINNih0@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU
(Margaret F Riley) wrote:
> 
> kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook) writes:
> >We're remodeling our older house and would like to remove the carpet and
> >refinish the hardwood floors.  My only concern is how this might affect 
> >my dogs.  They love to run and chase each other all over the house and
> >I'm worried that the new floors will be to slick and they may hurt
> themselves.
> 
My entire downstairs are wood floors (with strategic rugs). The dogs don't
mind one bit. I will admit, my beagle has this style run when he is on them
where he tucks his nappy little butt underneath him and scuttles around
when they are in tag mode... He does the same thing he is playing on ice on
the deck and sidewalk in the backyard. Very funny... I don't recall either
of my dogs (the other is a Lab) ever falling because of the wood floors.
Probably because they have been on it and adapted since they were both 8
weeks old.
--moya
From: kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Opal's Inferiority Complex
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:40:05 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

Hey All...I finally wrestled the keyboard back from Opal to ask a question.
Before I do, though, I just want you all to know that this is not a serious
problem, and I'm not all that worried about it, I just wanted to see what you
all thought about it.  So, get out your K-9 Psychology books!  8-)

Opal is a 7 year old Sheltie who is probably the most loved dog on the planet.
Yes, I know, you think your dog is more loved, but s/he isn't!  :)  Anyhow, my
9 month old daughter Jessica has gotten to that wonderful age of mischief.
The problem is this--whenever I scold Jessica for doing something she knows
she shouldn't, Opal slinks away like I'm yelling at her.  So as I'm saying,
"J, no!", I have to say "Good dog, Opal!"  It's kinda hard sometimes!  :)

Any suggestions?  As I said, this is not one of those life threatening
problems, so please, no suggestions to put her to sleep or aaything.  :)  (OK,
low blow....I admit it.)  

thanks....

Kelly, and Opal too!
From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: W(h)ipworm (My dogs have it) Info wanted
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:54:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Dec11.205440.22724
Organization: Washington State University

In article <moyman-121292113811@jonathan.ecn.purdue.edu> moyman@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike Moya) writes:
>I was told at my two dogs checkup that thye have whipworm. I was given 3
>packets (for each dog) to give when they eat for the next three days
>(panacur
>I think it was called). I was unable to talk to the vet to get some info
>about it. I was just told to pick up the medicine. Any info you
>can give me would be helpful:
>
>1. How do they get it? They are indoor dogs (fixed, 1 year old male Beagle
>and female Lab) but they run/play around our backyard many times during the
>day and evening...
>
>2. Is it very destructive?
>3. Can it be transmitted to humans? How?
>4. How can I prevent it from happening again?

1. Yes, it can be.  But like many compatible parasites, the cases where
   a lot of damage is done is counter-evolutionary.

2. No, it is not transmissible to humans.

3. Prevent your dogs from eating anything that may have been contaminated
   with fecal material (dirt, branches, probably anything outside could
   be suspect!).  The eggs are passed in feces and take a week or two to
   mature to the infective stage.  So careful disposal of fresh feces is
   a key to elimination.  Preventing your dogs from consuming any fecal
   material in the neighborhood will definitely help.  Dogs will be dogs and
   this can be a challenge for people like me who like to let the dog run
   off leash early in the morning at the park or fields.

   The eggs can remain viable in the environment for up to five years.  They
   are supposed to be susceptible to desiccation.  So if you can blow dry
   your yard, it will help (good luck this time of year!).  Best is to remove
   all feces.

Checking for whipworm infection is one good reason to have fecal samples done
at the yearly adult dog checkup.

---------------------
Jeff Parke <jeffp@vcs10.vetmed.wsu.edu>
also:   jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet     CIS: 71511,1512    AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Pullman, WA  99164-7012
Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 14:18:41 TUR
From: <E69386@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: any old magaz`nes

Anyone has an OLD magazines about dogs to send me|||||||THANK YOU||||from now.
TANIN AYABAKAN
defne sokak no:3/1 a.ayranciP.S.cause there is no magazine about
06540 ankara/TURKEYdogs in  my country
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: allergies
Date: 16 Dec 1992 07:07:19 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Julie Hill (jhill@sierra.com) wrote:
: After a year of having my Bloodhound off and on Prednisone, I finally had
: allergy tests done on her.  I found out that she's allergic to wheat, rice,
: corn, soybeans, and several pollens and molds.  I am going to start a desensi-
: tization program with her (injections) for the inhaled allergens, and need to
: change dogfoods for the food allergens.  The problem is that all of the dogfoods
: that I know of use one of the above grains as their base.  She is not allergic
: to barley or potatoes (don't know about oats), chicken, beef, fish, lamb, or
: pork (with the proteins, she showed the lowest response to lamb and pork.)  So
: the question for you people out in r.p.d land is, do you know of any commercial-
: ly available dogsfoods that use barley or potatoes as it base?

: Thanks,
: Julie

Purina has recently brought out a turkey and barley version of ProPlan. 
Check the ingredient list to see if there is anything else there.

Nature's Recipe has been one of the leaders in hypo-allergenic pet foods.
They may have something that would meet your requirements.

If you end up having to make your own food, you can get barley from most
farm and feed stores.  I feed it to my horse and the last time I bought it
I paid about $6 for 50# of crimped barley.  Much more economical than the
supermarket.

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: saw8712@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Steve A. Ward)
Subject: Re: Hardwood Floors and Dogs
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:52:06 GMT

kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook) writes:

>I've also heard that the dogs may scratch the floors although I keep their
>nails trimmed back. Does anyone have experience with dogs on hardwoods is
>this a bad idea?

I have a Malamute which doesn't come in very often, but when he does we
keep him off the hardwood floors because he has scratched them.  We've
oak floors with the swedish finish on them- he has no problem putting
long blemishes in them by simply walking across them. Hope that helps.


-- 
Steven A. Ward
The Boeing Company
internet: saw8712@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
phone: (206) 662-0239
From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Toys...(was Re: Kong???)
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:18:39 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu
Keywords: kong, retrieve

In article <1992Dec11.180506.5286@newshost.lanl.gov> davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons) writes:
>
>After reading this thread on Kongs, I wonder if anyone else has
>expereince with the "(almost) Indestructible Ball" from R.C.
>Steele.  I got one for McDuff the wonder Beardie.  He seems
>more annoyed at it than fond of it, though he plays with it quite
>frequently.  He has, however, managed to do quite a bit of damage to
>it fairly quickly (deep tooth marks in the hard palstic).
>
>Our kitchen floor is not quite level, so as he walks away from the
>thing, it starts to roll on its own, and he has to come back and
>teach it a lesson ("I said STOP MOVING!")
>
>Anyway, anbody else's comments on this toy would be greatly appreciated.
>(After the discussion on the Kong, it is on the list for the next R.C.
>Steele order ;-))

	I got my silly, hyper lab one of those Indestructible Balls.  He
LOVES it, but only if I play with it with him.  We play soccer with it (try
kicking it well -- OUCH!) and he LOVES that.  He tried to get the other
dogs interested but they find it awfully dull.  He only plays with it with
me now.  But, he's never done *any* damage to it.  I'm impressed! :)



--
Liza Lee Miller         My dogs are labradorable!     liza@pangea.stanford.edu
Cibola Labradors            Field * Show * Fun                    415/326-5309
Cibola's Misty Mountain Hop--Hopper                   Mistypoint Kashmir--Kash
	            Campbellcroft Cibola Rosette -- Rosie
From: kevin@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Opinions on breed.
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:37:41 -0600
Organization: Metro State U, Minneapolis MN

Well it looks like I will finally be able to get a puppy again so before I go
asearching I figured I would query the net about the appropriate breed for my
needs.  What I am looking for is a dog that will serve a variety of purposes.
In order of importance (sorta) they are.

	1.  Good companion (eliminated a lot of breeds there didn't I. ;)
	2.  Adaptable to both life with a yard and life in an apartment.
	    ( I have crate trained a dog before and am comfortable with it)
	3.  A good hunter of upland game. (Pheasant, Grouse)
	4.  Between 65lbs and 100 lbs.
	5.  Preferabley short haired or not prone to shedding a ton.
(And after seeing a couple of recent posts I must add point #6)
	
	6. Must be capable of respecting my privacy and not logging in as
	   me to post to this news-group!

I am not limiting myself to pure-breds here.  Though I may go that route if the
local humane shelter doesn't have close to what I want.  Is there such an
animal?

(Let me clarify point #2 above.  They would live in the house but have a fenced
yard to run free in.  BTW this is not a Xmas pup. I'll be ready for it the
beginning of January.)

============================================================================
Kevin Whyte						kevin@msus1.msus.edu
	**Representing and speaking for no one but myself.**
"Still, the best augurs are those who divine from the portents of the past. 
They compile phenomenal records." Croaker "The Black Company" by Glen Cook

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Apartment dogs
Date: 18 Dec 1992 20:52:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I think you can have almost any kind of dog in an apartment.  I 
lived in Chicago for several years and we had a friend who 
kept two Irish Wolfhounds in a two bedroom apartment.  One
bedroom was for them.  They were the quietest most well adjusted
dogs you ever wanted to meet.  They didn't get all that much
exercise but that didn't seem to be a problem for them.

I've never had one while I lived in an apartment but I think
all you really need to be concerned about is the amount of 
exercise the breed needs, the amount of barking it does and what
kind of time you are going to spend with it.

Kind of like latch-key kids. With the proper parents there isn't
a problem.

-- 

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From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Deer Whistles (was Re: Hearing ultrasound??)
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:49:03 GMT

In article <64640018@hpcss01.cup.hp.com> bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett) writes:
>I have a similar question!  I am about to order these gadgets for your car
>that emit an ultrasonic noise when you drive.  They are supposed to alert
>dumb deer who are standing in the road that unless they move, you are going
>to hit them.  But since I frequently have my dog in the car, I wonder if my
>dog will be able to hear this endless sound and will become irritated or
>something?
>
>Have any of you used these deer-alert products?  And if so, have your
>dogs seemed to mind them?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Diane
>

I have these on my automobiles.  Mine are not electronic.  They
are very simple plastic devices that, when separated by the correct
distance on your car bumper, resonate at frequency that humans cannot
hear (when you are driving and forcing air through them).  They do seem 
to work for me.  The deer and elk that I see usually stop what they are 
doing and watch me intently.  This is how they are supposed to work.  The 
animals are sort of supposed to "freeze" and watch you go by, as opposed to 
spooking and darting out in front of you.  Unfortunately, deer and elk standing 
in the road just stand there and watch you (until you honk) :-) .

They do not affect my dogs inside the automobile at all.

-- 
============================================================
Stephen R. Lee                 | 
OooWoo Racing Kennel           | I'd rather be driving sled
E-Mail: srlee@beta.lanl.gov    | dogs.
From: sbutler@irscscm.UUCP (Susan Butler)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Constipation
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:52:26 GMT
Reply-To: sbutler@irscscm.UUCP (Susan Butler)
Organization: Department of the Treasury, Washington, DC

In article <1992Dec9.030039.5385@leland.Stanford.EDU> shedevil@gw.home.vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell, J.D.) writes:
>
>What do you do when your dog is constipated...not enough to block it,
>but enough that it's clear things should be a bit..er..softer?

I had this same problem and my vet told me to mix a little unflavored
Metamucil (or any other fiber type laxative) in with the dog's food.
This seemed to do the trick.

Susan
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: David Taylor's new book
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:57:31 GMT


I saw, briefly, at the last dog show I was at, a new book out by David
Taylor.  I think it was called something like _The Ultimate Dogbook_,
but am not sure.  I only had one look at it but I was seriously impressed
with the photographic quality: all the pictures were commissioned
especially for this book and show each dog from various angles, plus a
commentary on the physical features of each breed.

But since I had only a moment's look, can anyone tell me about the
substance (or not) of the book?  Is it anything more than a pretty
picture book?  (The pictures are *excellent*, that's not meant to be
disparaging -- what I mean is, from the viewpoint of someone trying to
learn more about different breeds, does it contain substantial
information in that vein or not?  What else does it contain?)

--Cindy
--
Cindy Tittle Moore

Terrell's Chocolate Deduction--Hershe (Labrador Retriever)

The rec.pets.dogs FAQ -- all ten parts -- is available via ftp to
pit-manager.mit.edu under pub/usenet/news.answers/dogs-faq/*.  There
is a mail server, email me for details.

In loving memory of Betsy: 4-10-92 to 8-19-92...
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Will late castration affect my dog's behaviour?
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:44:20 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Eric Giguere writes:
> Anyhow, Dino is about a year-and-a-half, and I was wondering if I can
> expect
> some behavioural changes when he recovers from the operation.  Or will he
> just stop humping my roommate's stuff toys?


The only change in my dog when he was neutered at 3.5 years was that he no
longer humps other dogs. Perhaps he became a tiny bit more affectionate, a
tiny bit calmer, but that might be just because of natural maturing...or
might be a figment of my imagination :) He is no less protective, territorial
or playful.


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