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From: RZAL90@email.sps.mot.com (Eric Johnson)
Subject: Re: get it straight.READ THIS!!!
Organization: Motorola Inc, SPS
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:29:33 GMT

(Lots of stuff about Freewill lyrics deleted)

> Is there some difference between the lyric sheets in Canada and those
> in the US? 
> 
> It's possible that by the time Neil commented on this he had forgotten
> (and never re-checked) what was _on_ the lyric sheet?
> 
> 
YES!!
That is the case!  The liner notes for every American copy I've seen
(CD and LP) has the blacked out headline, and the words "you cannot have
made a choice".  I've also seen a Japanese master vinyl LP, with the
original cover.  It's lyrics say "you still have made a choice" which
is what Geddy is singing.
Enough,
Eric
From: fjs@sportster.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: ABC airs Rush???!!!
Date: 5 Nov 1992 15:00:40 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sportster.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <1992Nov05.173409.6483@eng.umd.edu>, cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen) writes:
>Greg writes:
>> Wishing the world would appreciate Rush,
>
>Hey, they appreciate Rush here in America. They showed 15 minutes of
>concert footage and video on ABC's In Concert at 1:00 in the morning.
>If that is not appreciation, I don't know what is. :) "And if you
>couldn't tell, i was being SARCASTIC!" ((c) 1992 Homer Simpson)
>
>Cyall L8R-
>Chris


FIFTEEN WHOLE MINUTES?!?!?!?  AND A VIDEO?!?!?!?!?!?

JESUS CHRIST--WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO????

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University

P.S.  I have to go now and change my undergarments.....they are soiled with
excitement............
From: djd@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk (David J Dawkins)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Freewill, wimper, wimper, wimper.... (Losing it)
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:46:55 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

> I wrote

>>I was thinking about the lyrics to Losing It the other day, and the verse
>>about the writer hit me from a different angle - do you think that this is
>>some kind of temporal self-awareness on Neil's part?  That is, is the song
>>a realisation of his fears that one day he may be the writer staring
>>with glassy eyes, defying the empty page?  Just a thought...

>It is modelled on Hemingway (perhaps the most well known case of someone
>who `lost it'). The specific incident had to do with Hemingway's attempt
>to write a letter to the president at the time in response to an
>invitation. Hemingway just could not write that letter. His health was
>very bad. Eventually he killed himself...

OK. Who is the dancer (modelled on) ?

-dave
-- 
djd@csg.cs.rdg.ac.uk
djd@csug.cs.rdg.ac.uk
davidd@integ.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: wilsonjc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (John Wilson)
Subject: How do you post?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:39:04 GMT

	Could anyone tell me the address for alt.music.rush.  The only
way I know is to post followups like this.  Any help would be appreciated.
Also, "Where's My Thing" on RTB is listed as part 4 of "Ganster of Boats"
Trilogy, could anyone tell me what songs are the first 3 parts? Thanks
John

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: hurben@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Hurben)
Subject: Re: Hemispheres
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 05:22:38 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Nov05.191723.16245@news.mentorg.com> gam@sun_jimh.mentorg.com (Gary Merrick) writes:
>
>I'm curious as to what other Rush fans think of it... Personally, I
>consider it one of my favorites. I love the whole thing, particularly
>the lyrics. Does anybody know what, if anything, influenced Neil
>on such an interesting concept?
>
Well, at the risk of pissing off the Anti-Rand people in the group, it is
POSSIBLE that Neil got it from her essay "Apollo and Dionysus," although I for
one doubt it because to Rand Apollo represents good while Dionysus is 'bad.'
Since Neil is (or was) a fan of her works, it is possible.

>Does anybody else think La Villa Strangiato is one of the most
>jammin' songs they've ever done? I'd enjoy hearing more "excercises
>in self indulgence." I'd also love for Rush to come out with another
>album with a theme to it, like 2112, CoS, Hemispheres, etc. What's
>that called, anyway? Is that a "concept album"? Why don't they do
>them any more?

A lot of people will argue with you that all Rush albums are 'concept albums,'
but that the 'new' Rush is just far more subtle...the unity that is so obvious
on older albums is still there, you just have to look much harder.  But yeah,
I think most Rush fans would welcome something written in the 'old' style.  I
have never understood why they are so willing to experiment with new timbres,
sound qualities, and instrumentation, but continue to use the same worn out
structural patterns that they never used to adhere to... oh well... Not my place
to question, and I still like the newer music...

>
>Gary

-Mike Hurben      "There is no music without ideology." - Dmitri Shostakovich
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: NeXT
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:24:30 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <BxM90J.Hpt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner) writes:
>cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>
>>	I don't know how long this will take, but I think by the end of Jan.
>>-- 
>>  UU  UU    IIIIII  "You poor take courage, you rich take care, this Earth was
>>  UU  UU      II     made a common treasury for everyone to share." BILLY BRAGG
>>  UU  UU  of  II     The University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign.
>>  UUUUUU    IIIIII   c-amin1@uiuc.edu  GO Illini!  ->Chintan Amin<- Go 'Heels!
>
>Hey!!  You're .sig is very similar to mine!  That's not fair.  :)
>
>!
>-- 
> = U   U     IIIII =================Les Claypool- I will rape your personality==
> = U   U       I    John Meseke              Pummel you with my own philosophy==
> = U   U  of   I                              Strip you of your self-integrity==
> = UUUUU     IIIII  jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu===To make you all a bit like me.==

 My old one was starting to annoy me, so I changed it.  This new  one is just 
 a temporary thing.
-- 
  UU  UU    IIIIII  "You poor take courage, you rich take care, this Earth was
  UU  UU      II     made a common treasury for everyone to share." BILLY BRAGG
  UU  UU  of  II     The University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign.
  UUUUUU    IIIIII   c-amin1@uiuc.edu  GO Illini!  ->Chintan Amin<- Go 'Heels!
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: by-tor
Keywords: prince by-tor
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:08:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.012639.26925@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) writes:
>Wow!  khalsa@echo.gsfc.nasa.gov typed...
>> Is it just me or is Prince By-tor (sp?) the "bad guy" on FBN
>> (minion of hell) and the "hero" on CoS (slays the Necromancer)?
>> What's the deal, any thoughts?
>> 
>> Tej
>> 
>> 
>
>Check the FAQ.  <ZOT!>

Actually, Dan, I've thought about it, and this might not be such a 
good idea. Offending omnipotent beings - particularly ones that can
get to your machine, somehow, someway - has not worked well
for me in the past.  

BTW, I hear the UseNet ORacle is looking for you. I gave him your
address...

Frank Sellin
==============
"Looming low and ominous
 in twilight premature..."
==============>
>-- 
>"I sing the Body Electric; The armies of those I love engirth me, and I
>engirth them; They will not let me off till I go with them, respond to
>them, and discorrupt them, and charge them full with the charge of the Soul."
> -- Walt Whitman                     dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany)
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:20:54 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Losing It
 <92315.134752IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <uslave.721544223@mcl>

I believe the phrase "For whom the Bell Tolls" (also my fave Metallica song!)
is from John Donne's poem "Meditation 14", where the common phrase "no man is
an island" is from...

Slainte mhath,

Mike
---
                     Mike Weintraub  mweintr@american.edu
                   The American University ----- Jvi on IRC
            "Life in two dimensions is a mass production scheme"
                         --Rush,  "Grand Designs"
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: kids?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:51:59 GMT

In article <BxDFy1.HK4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod) writes:
>abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson) writes:
>
>>In article <BxBFot.G6z@unccsun.uncc.edu> jagrizza@uncc.edu writes:
>>>I checked the FAQ, and didn't see this anywhere....
>>>
>>>do Geddy/Alex/Niel have any kids?  or, for that matter, are any of them married??
>>>
>>>just curious..
>
>>All three are married. If they still are I don't know but I'm sure they are!
>>In fact it's Geddys kid (I can't remember his name) who is in the Distant 
>>Early Warning video.  B-Man talks about their wives and things in "Visions".
>
>>-- 
>>Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
>>      If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice! -RUSH         
>>        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
>> e-mail to:           abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
>>                      abrahams@plains.BITNET    (BITNET)
>
>Also, Neil has a daughter -- listen to Chain Lightning.

Sorry, from reading the lyrics, I don't see the connection/proof. 
Is there another source you know of?
Frank
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:48:49 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Losing It
 <92315.134752IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <BxIw5M.HJ2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

John Donne, the great (?) Puritan poet, wrote the orignal poet w/ the like
"no man is an island", and i think the "for whom the bell tolls" is also in
that poem (Meditations 14)

Mike, the resident Poli Sci major
---
                     Mike Weintraub  mweintr@american.edu
                   The American University ----- Jvi on IRC
            "Life in two dimensions is a mass production scheme"
                         --Rush,  "Grand Designs"
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Alex and the Canadian Air Force
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:44:00 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Something tells me that somewhere along the chain of the net, UVa's
(that's University of Virginia, folks) hierarchy of machines,
and my modem, I'm missing a post which would do *so* much to
clear up my confusion here.  To wit, what, where, why, and when
is Alex doing/was Alex riding military transport planes?

Thanks in advance.

Blissfully ignorant *and* frustrated,
Frank Sellin, fes9s@virginia.edu.
============
"And as you join the Good Ship Earth
 and you mingle with the dust
 Be sure to leave your underpants
 with someone you can trust..."
     --the Tull, "Lick Your Fingers Clean"
============
From: Brian.K.Sward@dartmouth.edu (Brian K. Sward)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: The Price of CD's (was Boxed Sets vs. Cheap CD's)
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:33:17 GMT
 <1992Nov4.061638.24776@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> 
 <1992Nov4.105040.28325@gssec.bt.co.uk> 
 <16895144F0.PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>  
 <5NOV199215571405@zeus.tamu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <5NOV199215571405@zeus.tamu.edu>
srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu (Steven R. Fennell) writes:

> Hah!  As if we don't already live in a debt-ridden socialist state?  Thanks to 
> twelve shitty years of republican rule in this country.  It has everything to 
> with the record companies my friend, if you knew anything about economics.  
> Your perception is that CD's cost $15...therefore you will pay $15.  It makes 
> the $12 sales look good, even though they're still making a hefty profit.  And 
> so those "cheap" CDs that cost $9.98?  More profit, and you think you're 
> getting a great deal!  Every one of those cost around $0.60 to make, about the 
> price of an LP when they still made 'em.

OK, lets let a little bit of ecconomics into this:

Suppose a CD does cost $0.60 to make (I remember it being about $1)
The Jewel box/packaging is another $1
Shipping is $.25
The artist gets $2.00
$.25 goes to promotion/advertising

This totals $3.10.

If you're a record label and move 10,000 discs a month and pay $1000
per month rent that's $.10 a disc ($3.20)
20 employees at ONLY $12,000 a year is another $2 per disc ($5.20)

Now sell this to a record store for $6

THE OWNER MAKES $96,000 per year, PROVIDED HE CAN SELL ALL THE DISCS HE
PRODUCES, plus there are loans that must be paid, Utilities, and the
actual machinery to make the discs.  And I'm willing to bet that there
are people making more than twelve grand a year working for even a
small company like I'm describing.

The record store faces similar costs, making a $12 CD.  This price is
just a case of where profits are maximized, where the additional money
from selling one more disc at a lower price is balanced by the loss of
money from dropping the price of every other disc that would have been
sold anyway.

NOTE: These numbers are all guesstimates based on my previous
knowledge, but are close enough that I think my point is valid. 

---------------------
THE CD may cost $.60 to make, but how much does it cost to have
empolyees to make the CD, the building to make it in, the equiptment to
make it, and the means of distributing the CD's. 
---------------------


Brian K. Sward
Dartmouth College
brian.sward@dartmouth.edu
"Don't ask me
I'm just improvising"-OBRQ
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mgm2731@zeus.tamu.edu (Mike 'Vogon' Margolis)
Subject: Re: Rush's Worst Song
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:50:00 GMT

The true, ugly-behemoth of a song with no redeeming characterisitcs has got to 
be "I Think I'm Going Bald" off of _Fly By Night_ :-) - Just a joke - off of 
_Caress of Steel_, of course.

 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 |   Michael G.Margolis     | "You say the hill's to steep to climb (climb it)|
 |   MGM2731@sigma.tamu.edu |   You say you'd like to see me try (climbing)   | 
 | 			    |    You pick the place and I'll pick the time.   |
 |   Pink Floyd, "Fearless"-=>    And I'll climb the hill in my own way ...   |
 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: bernie@tagsun.med.utoronto.ca (Bernie Charlton)
Subject: stuff
Organization: University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:21:36 GMT

     I'm wondering if anyone has experience with bastardising Rush
tunes into jazz... I play double bass in a quartet, and I was
thinking YYZ would make for a cool modal tune. Where can I get
suitable sheet music, as opposed to TAB which I cannot comprehend,
for YYZ, with solos preferably? Comments appreciated...

Least Fave/Most Hated Rush Songs: in no particular order, Rivendell,
Tai Shan, Madrigal, Tears

What got me into Rush: The Spirit of Radio was written for my
favourite radio station in Toronto, CFNY, so they play it every
now and again despite their No-Rush policy (they are a staunch
new music station, so AOR is out). I liked it a lot, and I had
heard a few other cool Rush songs, including Where's My Thing,
and being a bass player I was naturally attracted to them.
I bought Chronicles on tape used, and went into a BIG Rush
phase... now I have almost all of the early stuff, and a lot
of the later stuff- four or five things left to get perhaps.
All of my friends hate Rush, my girlfriend DESPISES them with a passion,
so I feel fortunate to have discovered them. Guess
being Canadian helped a bit..

BC

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu (Steven R. Fennell)
Subject: Re: Rush's Worst Song
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Meltdown Productions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:38:00 GMT

In article <0f0bqjy00WBLE2emlS@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Jonathan T. Moore" <jmci+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>My vote would probably have to be "Take Youself a Friend" from _Rush_.
> 
>Jon
> 

Oh, it's got to be either "Countdown" from _signals_ or "Tai Shan" from HYF.

Blegh.

Steve Fennell
srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: snowdog@cs.mcgill.ca (Rodney CHANG)
Subject: Re: Rush's Worst Song
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:55:03 GMT

In article <1drjttINNjqg@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mcarey@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (M A Carey) writes:
>Well, my choice for Rush's worst is 'Superconductor' yucccck.  
>


Really??  Just so happens my favorite song from Presto is Superconductor. 
What coincidence!
From: isaac@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush Boxed Set vs. Cheap Rush CDs?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:54:38 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 >         Sorry to blow away the myth guys, but CDs in the UK are even
 > more expensive than CDs in the US, especially at the present pitiful
 > exchange rate.

Yeah, well, it wasn't my intention to say that they were CHEAPER in the UK.
My point was that CDs were the same price as records and tapes over there...
TOO EXPENSIVE!

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: kids?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:37:14 GMT

The link between Neil's daughter and Chain Lightning is in the 2d part
of the FAQ, just posted today or yesterday, I *think*.  I guess the 
only oblique reference is, "Reflected in another pair of eyes..."
(Likeeil says in the quote in the FAQ, it really is special when
someone else shares it.)

Welp, I guess that does it for this thread. (And Dan--I slogged
through both parts of the FAQ just to make you happy, knowing
that someone reads it. 8-).)

Frank Sellin
=============
"Be sure to leave your underpants
 With someone you can trust..."
     --Jethro Tull, "Lick Your Fingers Clean"
=============
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Freewill
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:06:45 GMT

ghost@wam.umd.edu (.) writes:

>question: is the ASOH and ESL concert videos worth getting ? i have inquired
>          of the Oracle (FAQ..) and saw that the songs i want played in
>          entirety was on both of these..so are they worth getting ?
>          don't care whether they act cute on stage or prancee around
>          just wanna see em play :)

   Yes. Sure. You bet. Absolutely. Yep. That's affirmative. Roger. Buy them!!
I'd bet a dollar or two that you won't be bored by them.

Muff
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Subject: Re: Exit Stage Left...
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 17:34:09 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

Greg writes:
> Wishing the world would appreciate Rush,

Hey, they appreciate Rush here in America. They showed 15 minutes of
concert footage and video on ABC's In Concert at 1:00 in the morning.
If that is not appreciation, I don't know what is. :) "And if you
couldn't tell, i was being SARCASTIC!" ((c) 1992 Homer Simpson)

Cyall L8R-
Chris
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Subject: intro to rush....
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:46:01 GMT

I was wondering if anyone would like to express how they got into rush... I'm just
sorta curious how we were all introduced to the best group in the world....

as for me... well, I'd never even _heard_ of rush untill about 2.5 years ago... and a
friend of mine dubbed me a copy of the 2112 Overature (not the whole thing, just the
overature).  Within 2 days I owned 2112.  For several months this was the only album
I had, and listened too it so much that there's now _NO_ writing on either side of
it... :)  guess I flipped that baby over one to many times...

I eventually bought another album (a farewell to kings), and got addicted to it...
I continued buying albums (mostly older ones, then the new ones), and finally had them
all :)  I never really liked their new stuff, untill I saw them in concert (4th row!),
now I'm addicted to their new stuff, too...

Oh, incidentally, 2112 is _still_ my favorite RUSH song, period...

anyone else care to comment? 

:)
From: abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Check the FAQ
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:35:55 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Nov3.182249.13426@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin) writes:
>
>Doesn't it bother people just a little bit that Dan Delany's 
>"Check the FAQ" stings with more social opprobrium than
>the infamous UseNet Oracle's trademark "<ZOT!>"? (At least
>on this newsgroup?)

Where is this famous FAQ I keep hearing about? It isn't the one put out by
TNMS is it? If not please mail me a copy so I won't ask any dumb questions!


-- 
Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
      If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice! -RUSH         
        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
 e-mail to:           abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (INTERNET)  
                      abrahams@plains.BITNET    (BITNET)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu (Steven R. Fennell)
Subject: Re: Rush Boxed Set vs. Cheap Rush CDs?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Meltdown Productions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:57:00 GMT

In article <16895144F0.PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ethan Evan Prater) writes...
> 
>I don't know how much it has to do with record companies; it seems to me that
>is the price for living in a socialist welfare state. Buy up all the CD's you
>can, American Rush fans, because come January we'll be paying taxes out the
>butt, too.
> 
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>Ethan Evan Prater              |
>                               | "The sign of Eth is rising in the air..."
>prater@minerva.cis.yale.edu    |
>praethe@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu    |      -- Rush -- By-Tor and the Snow Dog --
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Hah!  As if we don't already live in a debt-ridden socialist state?  Thanks to 
twelve shitty years of republican rule in this country.  It has everything to 
with the record companies my friend, if you knew anything about economics.  
Your perception is that CD's cost $15...therefore you will pay $15.  It makes 
the $12 sales look good, even though they're still making a hefty profit.  And 
so those "cheap" CDs that cost $9.98?  More profit, and you think you're 
getting a great deal!  Every one of those cost around $0.60 to make, about the 
price of an LP when they still made 'em.

Now I seem to understand the rationalization of the defense industries... 
charge $20 million for an airplane because the gov'ment thinks it should pay 
that much (indirectly from the taxpayers).  Thank god, at least Clinton will 
force those maggot-ridden defense firms to diversify their outlook and produce 
something worthwhile....like...CD players (yeah, an American Cd player, what a 
concept!)

Steve Fennell
srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu