From: daveb@pogo.wv.tek.com (Dave Butler)
Newsgroups: rec.kites
Subject: Re: Logo
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:50:10 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

It looks like we have several people who like the idea of a rec.kites logo.  
I liked both suggestions so far: an "at" sign made out of a delta kite
with tail, and a delta on a 5 1/2" floppy.  I also thought up a couple more:

	A delta or a diamond kite with a swooping tail made of brightly
	colored, 5 1/2" floppies.

	A delta kite on top of a golden Sun (I guess because I work on a
	Sparkstation made by Sun).

	A Black Rokaku shape with the words "Tako Kichi" in gold on it, 
	because I now so strongly identify that phrase with rec.kites.

	Any shape using a specific pair of colors, with the letters "RK" on 
	it ("RK" stands for rec.kites).

The reason I proffer something so basic as the last suggestion, is I think we
should have two logos: one nice logo we could put on a pin, patch, or a single
line kite, and one simple logo made simply for ease of use and recognition
factor.  Remember, the problem that started this idea was the trouble I had at
the Longbeach Kite fest, in finding any rec.kites readers, and I'm not going
to go around looking for rec.kites cloisine pins. 

Now one of the easiest groups to find on the western beaches is the AOK
(Association of Oregon Kiter).  The AOK has a nice logo, but for festivals and
competitions, the group has several large basic blue standards with the
letters AOK done vertically in golden yellow; you can identify them from a half
mile away.  Now it's not something I'd want on a pin (I'd want something a lot
fancier like the other AOK logo), but we will want something simple and easy
to make, so that everyone can set up one (even people who aren't experts at
sewing).  We also want something that is also easy to describe and understand
(and design that won't take us a month to decide upon).  Then, if you saw
someone with an "RK" on their flag, jacket, bag or even just a large piece of
cardboard, you'd immediately know the group to which they belong.  So I'd
suggest picking a striking and common, contrasting pair of colors (eg:
Red/Black, Yellow/Black, Purple/Gold, Red/Green, Navy/Yellow), and use those
colors to render the letters "RK", for long distance recognition.  That way,
the simple combination of colors would make it semi-easy to spot such a
signpost, even if you couldn't quite make out the "RK" (ie: it would signify
where you should look for an "RK" symbol). 

As to a more complex and attractive logo, I too collect some pins.  So if we
get a quorum who wants to develop such a design, and chip in to make the
cloisine run for the pins, count me in. 

				Later,

				Dave Butler

    Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: What more could you ask of life? 
    Aviation combined all the elements I loved...  I began to feel that I 
    lived on a higher plane than the skeptics of the ground; one that was 
    richer because of its very association with the elements of danger they 
    dreaded, because it was freer of the earth to which they were bound.  In 
    flying I tasted the wine of the gods of which they could know nothing... 
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