HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan)
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:55:35 GMT

From article <l6omatINN6h4@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, by rja@hastur.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen):
>     I HIGHLY recommend purchasing MagLites, i.e., cop-style water-

I second this.  MagLites come in all shapes and sizes. I have a tiny
pocket model I carry on a keyring with my Swiss Army pocket knife (a
combination that has sense proved so popular that MagLite has started
selling them as a pair). I have a slightly larger shirt-pocket sized
one that resides in my moto-tailpack. I have a larger two-D-cell model
that I carry in my tank bag for over night trips. Three or four cell
models are in both automobiles. And a big five cell model, easily big
enough to use in cop-mode (i.e. as a baton) sits beside the bed at
home.

>>2. All cars get road flares (the one we were driving didn't have any)
>     I carry about 5, and recommend that you do to.

My moto-tailpack carries on of those road hazard flashing lights
that use a flat Polaroid battery. Flashes amber, with a red reflective
case, for a couple of hours, after which the battery can be replaced.
I keep one in each automobile too.

>>3. Wife will sew some sort of sash or belt with reflective material to
>     Go to motorcycle store and purchase conspicuity vest.  I should

Does anyone know if Conspicuity is joining Shoei and Cool-Tech in
going under (if Cool-Tech, in suspending operations, is in fact going
under)? I ask because I visited to four motorcycle shops in the Denver
and Boulder areas recently to get more Conspicuity triangles, and each
of them told me they couldn't get them from the regional distributor
anymore. Competition Accessories told me over the phone that they
couldn't get the triangles from Conspicuity anymore (but didn't know
about the vests etc.) and had started offering another brand.

--
John Sloan              "Since I've given up hope,        +1 303 497 1243
NCAR/SCD                   I feel much better."       Fax +1 303 497 1137
Boulder CO 80307-3000 USA                            jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu
Logical Disclaimer:  belong(opinions,jsloan). belong(opinions,_):-!,fail.
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Cop Flashlights
Date: 21 Jul 1992 23:55:08 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <l6omatINN6h4@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> rja@hastur.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) writes:
>    I HIGHLY recommend purchasing MagLites, i.e., cop-style water-
>    proof, explosion proof, aluminum flashlights.  Pay extra and
>    get a Xenon bulb.  Check flashlight periodically to make sure
>    the button didn't get pressed on and discharged the batteries.

Probably because cops have a history of abusing gay people, whenever
I see one of these flashlights I immediately envision somebody's
skull getting bashed open with it.  The flashlight function never
even crosses my mind.  Does anybody else have this reaction?

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: brand-new seca knocked over by ruffians
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:19:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1992Jul24.082909.20529@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Cliff Weston) writes:
>that they need to be matched.  it's a 4-2 set-up; anyone know if it's a problem
>if one pipe's backpressure is different from the others?  i'm leaving for the

Well, when I highsided my bike I crunched the right pipe, which dislodged a
vital piece of rust holding exhaust gases in. There is now a 1" diameter hole 
ion the bottom of the pipe. The bike runs rougher, very much like a twin (yes,
all 4 cylinders are firing :-) ) and I actually like the sound of it (guess 
what my next bike might be). So I would conclude that mismatched exhausts 
would make a slight difference in the runnung of the bike.

jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* Yamama 650 Maxim           | "I'd like a large Ducati, with extra 'g's."  * 
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) | "Would you like that delivered?"             * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) | "No, I'll come pick it up."                  *
From: dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Insurance Bullshit
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:33:34 GMT
Organization: NEC Information Systems, Acton, MA

In article <1992Jul20.193432.10704@sdc.com>, kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) wrote:
> 
> Simply because the highways were designed for speeds in excess of 55 doesn't
> imply they should be used at those speeds.  Also, since 55 was established
> as a token to reduce consumption of natural resources, why should it be
> repealed?  I don't know of any vehicles that get better gas mileage at 65
> than they do at 55, so it seems to me that 55 can still serve it's
> (albeit not very significant) conservation purpose.

Actually, vehicles that use fuel injection systems (that includes
diesel and covers most modern engine designs) coupled with properly
geared transmissions have their efficiency curve top out around 60 or
62 MPH.  The double nickel was put into place back when most engines
were carbeurated and had an efficiency peak around 50.  Keep in mind
that most long distance trucking companies reported HIGHER fuel
consumption, not lower, when their drivers were forced to go 55.
                               -- Dave --
-- 
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DaveJ Lyons       DoD #0633         dlyons@necis.nec.com  (603)878-2567 BBS
Opinions expressed are mine. My company doesn't even know I'm here (Shhhh!)
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From: ben@osc.COM (Ben Sloss)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
Date: 20 Jul 92 16:36:17 GMT
Organization: Versant Object Technology, Menlo Park, CA

In article <...> mf@dancer.UUCP () writes:
>In article <l68qbdINN79f@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>>In article 860@msus1.msus.edu, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John) writes:
>>>This is uncanny.  Both times I was rear-ended it was by single women!
>>
>>well, it's finally been proven.  obviously, women aren't CAPABLE of operating
>>motor vehicles.  that must be why their insurance is so much more expensive.
>>risky, risky, risky.  and uncanny, to boot.
>>
>>gee, isn't ANYONE going to say "fuck off, sexist assholes"?
>>
>
>	Yea, I knew this was coming!  Easy now, these are just 
>observations (self-report and ancedotal)......not hard science,
>and none proclaimed.  I think you would be surprised why women
>do get breaks compared to men on car insurance (and it certainly
>ain't because they are *better* drivers). 

  Oh?  This is news to me.  Statistically, women are involved in fewer 
  accidents than men.  Did you have some other definition of *better*
  which you wished to introduce?

  I think what we are seeing here is a well-known psychological phenomenon
  involving stereotypes.  Stereotypes are brought about, in large part,
  because people tend to remember evidence confirming beliefs which they
  hold, while forgetting or discounting disconfirming evidence.  In this
  case, the 'bad-female-driver' stereotype, we've seen a few posts about
  people being hit by female drivers.  What we haven't seen is all the posts
  from people hit by male drivers.  People are seaching their memories for
  evidence to confirm this thread, while people with disconfirming evidence
  are remaining silent.  This reporting approach, while it makes for 
  some lively posts, does not constitute a valid reasoning method, and
  we cannot draw any valid conclusions from it.
  
  I for one will say that every accident which I or any of my close friends 
  has been involved in, has been the fault of a male driver.

>mf

  Can we get back to talking about motorcycles?  As members of a minority
  group of motorists with a host of negative stereotypes associated with
  us, it seems the least we can do to not promote yet another set of
  erroneous 'facts' about other subgroups.
-- 
Ben Sloss    ben@osc.com (415) 329-7500x172
Toys:        '93 CBR 900RR, '83 Nighthawk 650, '91 XR250L, '87 Mustang 5.0
Quote:       "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
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From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: Rust Removal, prevention...etc
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:02:02 GMT


	here i am once more seeking wisdom... this time on rust!!! any
	suggestions on what to do with the rust on my pipes?? i have
	quite a few thoughts about this from high-thermal-whatever paint
	to a new pipe... but i would love to hear from you people.

	happy riding,

	- ravi


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From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: Two-Lane Blacktop (was Nicest Interstate)
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
In-reply-to: galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu's message of Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:18:02 GMT
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
	<1992Jul23.195051.15866@isc-br.isc-br.com> <kpnm9-c@lynx.unm.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 06:20:55 GMT

In article <kpnm9-c@lynx.unm.edu>, galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon) writes:

> Pop quiz for the Bay Area folk:  how can you ride from San Jose to Modesto
> without travelling on an Interstate? (clue: look hard, turn often.)

136 over the Diablos.
--
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Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
Organization: Sophomore, Metallurgy and Materials Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Organization: Cathode Ray Mission, San Jose
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:44:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.132451.13179@hemlock.cray.com> frankb@willow41.cray.com (Frank Barriuso) writes:
>
>  Someone once told me that the cops have an easy time deciding whether or
>not a motorcycle has come to a complete stop at a stop sign. If the rider
>had to put their feet down to keep from falling over then they did, if not
>then they didn't.  Is there any validity to this?

None whatsoever, unless Minnesota's VC explicitly states that a rider has to
put a foot down at a stop. Good trials riders can stay upright indefinitely
while stopped feet-up; most riders of reasonable ability can manage a second
or two, more than enough for the statutory stop. Try it sometime.

Nevertheless, doesn't stop cops from writing the ticket anyway. I guess they
never heard of Bernie Schribner or Jordi Tarres (let alone Malcolm Smith...)



-Neal
[niall@c3.com]
DoD #0x451
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From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Subject: Re: two miles from home (was Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck)
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
In-reply-to: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com's message of Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:48:05 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co., Sunnyvale, Ca.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:26:18 GMT

In article <3880089@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:

> so all you male egos who have been posting acrimonious insults about
> female drivers lately, enough; go chat on your car phones or
> something.  you're 8 times more likely to be doing that while driving
> than a femme. 

Well, I have a male ego, although I haven't been too
acrimonious lately.  But I have about zero times the
likely hood of talking on the phone and driving at the
same time.
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Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
From: turner@rastaman.llnl.gov (David Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Anyone got a saucer helmet? (was: Re: More Helmet Stuff)
Keywords: whatajerk!
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:24:00 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Lance Holst, I believe, got a saucer helmet.

I nominate this subject for the monthly "Lance Holst Memorial Convoluted 
Thread That Wouldn't Die Award".

Later...DT

------------
David Turner
dturner@llnl.gov -OR- turner@rastaman.llnl.gov
(510) 422-1162   
'82 VF750S    DoD#0373
Disclaimer:  All opinions are mine.  None are theirs.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson)
Subject: 1993 GSXRs
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:27:39 GMT

In article <Bs41In.Cup@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
|In article <1992Jul28.012838.9152@ichips.intel.com> mfisch@ichips.intel.com writes:
|>
|>  Better be soon since the '93 ZX-11 is reputed to have some outrageously
|>high speed figures (over 180 mph).  If anybody can do it, Kawi can ! 
|
|	A couple of similar items, seen in this month's Cycle Canada:
|-1993 Suzuki GSXR1100 will be liquid cooled like the 750 already is (here)

Any word on how it compares to the '92 GSXR1100?

-- 
David Robinson	david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Disclaimer: No one listens to me anyway!	'92 GS500E DoD #480
"An addiction is a drag" - Dennis Hopper	'90 EX250R Ninja
"A tisket, a tasket, a condom or a casket" - Dr. Carl Bell
From: artc@bacchus.epps.kodak.com (Art Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ERC vs. rain
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:16:25 GMT
Reply-To: artc@bacchus.atex.kodak.com
Organization: Atex Publishing Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul21.151136.19404@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul20.202505.28187@msc.cornell.edu> lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746) writes:
|> >From article <1992Jul20.190519.16487@cs.ucla.edu>, by noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry):
|> >> i took half of ERC two weeks ago (the range session was rained out)
|> >                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >...
|> >
|> >        Californication takes a new low, Noemi. "this is the MSF, California
|> >style. We all know it never rains here, so we all run slicks and don't teach in
|> >the rain, because you'll never have to ride in it, here or anywhere." The MSF
|> >actually claims these weenies??? ...
|> 
|> In Illinois ERC range exercises are canceled or postponed if it is raining but
|> MRC:RSS exercises are not always canceled due to rain. In the MRC:RSS it is
|> stressed that one shouldn't make and sudden speed or direction changes when
|> riding on slippery surfaces.  Over half of the ERC range exercises involve
|> sudden speed or direction changes. E.g., rear wheel skid, quick stop, quick
|> stop on a curve, swerving, swerve then brake, brake then swerve.
|> 
Yeah, so you practice making maneuvers in the rain. Obviously it's not the same as
riding dry, but it's certainly valuable experience. The last ERC course I took did
the road course in the rain and I wouldn't have missed it...

-- 
Art Campbell          artc@atex.kodak.com            72227.1375@compuserve.com
   DoD 358                                  _Real_ BMWs have just two wheels.
    "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent 
     and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
                      All the usual disclaimers apply.
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From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: Re: Roid is charged!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:15:30 GMT

Somewhere, Sometime, Thus Spake odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose):
:- 
:- Won't help much, but if you get slapped with a fine, I'd help contribute.
:- Gotta stick together.

	neat suggestion. if seth weren't seth i would've suggested it
	myself! count me in!



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From: sheinfel@ssd.comm.mot.com (Aviad Sheinfeld)
Subject: VFR750F fairings *WANTED*
Organization: Motorola
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:27:57 GMT

Hi all,

	Anybody have '91 VFR 750F fairings in good shape or better for sale?

	Don't ask.

							-Aviad
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cars-v-bikes
Keywords: brakes,corners
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:47:15 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <14922@suns5.crosfield.co.uk> gxw@crosfield.co.uk (garry wilmot) writes:
>
>1)   how does the braking performance of todays supersports 750`s
>compare with cars.

     Straight line braking performance is about the same as the best
cars
>
>2)   will such a supersports motocycle take a corner faster than
>a comparable super car.

     Depends.  Cars can brake deeper into a corner, and therefore can
average higher speeds around them.  Motorcycles accelerate out of a
corner much faster ,so the exit speed is about the same (most important
part of road racing).

	Lap record at Mountain View race track is held by a F-USA
        FZR1000 with nitrous.

        Lap record at Second Creek race track is held by stock-block
        Indy car.
	(Two local tracks)

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| Dave Tharp                      | DoD #0751   | "You can't wear out       |
| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|       1938 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Share your scare stories:Ever put the bike down two-up?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:06:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul23.160643.14553
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <4915@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
>Has anyone ever had to lay it down

You make it sound like one gets to pick and choose how one crashes.
True sometimes, perhaps, but few of the stories here would qualify.
"It suddenly decided to lay down" seems more common than "I knew 
then that I'd have to lay it down."

> with a passenger sitting behind you?

The ONLY time I dropped the Beemer from other than zero forward motion
was with my wife on the back.  I was turning into a driveway at about
5 to 10 mph.  Unbenownst to me the driveway was not packed dirt or
gravel but sand.  Not sand on pavement, deep sand.  The bike leaned to
the right OK, but the front wheel, instead of tracking to the right,
just plowed the sand with its sidewall, and we fell down.  No damage
to people or machine, but my wife was badly scared.

It was also raining a bit at the time but I don't think that directly
caused the accident.  It may have distracted me a bit.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
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From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders waved !!!
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:22:25 GMT
	<1992Jul17.020324.7417@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>Pete,
>	While I realize that your post was light-hearted, I do feel compelled
>to respond, to wit:
> 
>In article <AeMjDTm00Uh7E2TrhH@andrew.cmu.edu>, ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Peter A. 
>Simon) writes...
>>i parked my bike next to a great big, shiny, new hog loaded with all the
>	:
>	:
>> 
>>HE ACTUALLY SPOKE TO ME!!!!!!
>> 
>	he didn't relaize you were a twit, maybe?

why am i a twit?  because i admired his bike (it *was* a beautiful piece
of mahinery) and told him i did?
> 
>>i thought, "wait'll he gets out to the lot and realizes that who he
>>condescended to recognize the existance of was the worm riding the
>>non-descript cm400 parked next to him."  hee hee hee.  i'll bet it's a
> 
>    i've a 'non-descript' cm400e (1980), it has 40k miles (all mine) on it,
>    and, obviously, has served me well. i also have an Electra-Glide.  The
>    former is being rebuilt for my wife, the latter is used daily, both are
>    mine.
> 
>    further, I'm usually the first to initiate a wave (the topic of this
>    string, remember?) tho I do exclude bicycles and mopeds, 10 to 20
>    percent of the 'wavees' don't respond.  I think about half of that
>    group didn't see me, the other half look at me like i've an arm growing
>    out of my mouth.  this half seems to be primarily composed of
>    helmetless (i use a full-face) jerks whose neon sunglasses match their
>    shorts and sneaker laces.
> 
>    maybe the 'biker-type' now classes you with those jerks.

why would he?  because i admired his bike and told him so?

hey, is there any software out there that can be used to translate stuff
for the logic impaired like this idiot here?

>		
>+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:{  spook  }:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:
> Greg Kenoyer			     kenoyer@cujo.enet.dec.com
> Digital Equipment Corporation	     Colorado Springs, CO
> DoD #0472	                     '84 FLH (The Last Shovel)
>     any opinions expressed are mine (not Ken's, et.al.), so tough
>+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:

-peter

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*                             WATCH BACK!                           *
*                                                                   *
* DoD #10o00                 Suzuki LS650H         NAUI INST. #1434 *
*                             (for sale)                            *
*                             Honda CM400                           *
*                           (for sale, too)                         *
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From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: THANKS Ed
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:29:54 GMT

Who gets the award for the most miles in one day?  I did about 630 miles going
home Sunday with Marc (my bike gets about 2% more miles to the mile than Marc's) 
but Marc toured rainy NJ for an extra 1.5 hours after I got home.

Did anyone travel further than, say, 700 miles in one day?

- Roid
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