HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Re: A Geneological Question
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:38:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.161914.7273@ac.dal.ca> nextug@ac.dal.ca writes:
>A geneological question: my surname is Majka. The family is from
>the vicinity of Tarnow in Galicia. Does anyone know anything about
>the origins of this name? It meand "mother" in various south Slavic
>languages. Does this indicate a Serbian/Bulgarian/Macedonian
>origin? Any Majka's out there on the net? AQnyone know any Majka's?
>	My paternal grandmother's maiden name is "Chmura". Does anyone
>know anything about this family, also from Galicia?
>	And a related question from a friend who is a Korowaj (mother
>was a Majka) from the town of Iwierzyce near Sedzyszow west of
>Rzeszow: does anyone know anything about the Korowaj family?
>	Reply if possible via EMail since I seldom peruse this 
>newsgroup.
>	Thanks!
>	Krzysztof Majka
>	nextug@ac.dal.ca

This may be a little off the track, but a short perusal
of our database showed 516 US 'telephonized' MAJKA households, 
and 551 CHMURAs (ond only one KOROWAJ). 
BTW, why do you write Majka's, instead of Majkas?

BTW, Galicja was laaaarge, Chmura is a rather popular
name, thus it won't be easy to trace your roots on this
side. Can't help with the other two, thou the town's
name is Se,dziszo'w, I guess...

Czes'c'

Tony
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz)
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 02:19:45 GMT

pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu writes:

>   Na moje poglady tego typu odpryski jakos nie wplywaja....

A jakiego typu odpryski wplywaja na twoje poglady?

Nie nalezy do mnie, ustalac czy Zydzi maja sie za Polakow uwazac czy
nie. Jezeli ONI sie za Polakow uwazaja, to ja ICH tez za takich bede
uwazal, obojetne czy innym ludziom (Zydom, Polakom) sie to podoba czy
nie. Tyle.

MB
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Reply-To: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Organization: SUNYA School of Public Health, Albany, NY
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:14:25 GMT

In article <matthew.715139283@mugga>, matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Maciek Blasikiewicz) writes:
>kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:
>
>>>"How do you know Krzysztof, that Matthew was wrong ?" Aleksander Mazur
>>Onze napisal o 6 milionach Polakow a nie obywateli polskich zabitych
>>przez Niemcow
>
>Czy mam zrozumiec, ze polscy obywatele pochodzenia zydowskiego nie
>byli, tak naprawde, Polakami? Ciekawe...
>
>>- lekko ponad polowa (Znowu przepraszam za niedokladnosc
>>powinienem byl napisac more than a half zamiast most) to Polscy Zydzi.
>>Mozna sie naturalnie sprzeczac o ten milion (tzn o 3.2 lub 2.2 mln
>>Polskich Zydow) ,
>
>Jezeli nie mamy dokladnych liczb zabitych polakow pochodzenia
>zydowskiego, to proponuje wziasc srednia granic, czyli 2.7 mln (na
>s.c.j ktos podal gorna granice jako 3.0 mln, co by dalo srednia 2.6
>mln).  Czy jest to wiecej czy mniej niz polowa zabitych Polakow?
>
[...]
>MB
>
>PS: Najlepiej pisac, ze OKOLO polowa Polakow zamordowanych przez
>Niemcow byla pochodzenia zydowskiego.

  Zawsze zastanawialo mnie, dlaczego dla Polakow dosc oczywisty
dla kazdego fakt, ze w Polsce mieszkali, mieszkaja i bedac mieszkac
ludzie NIE BEDACY Polakami jest taki trudny do zaakceptowania.

  W szczegolnosci taka niepolska grupa byli Zydzi, a nie zadni
Polacy pochodzenia zydowskiego. Tak tez powinienes to MB rozumiec,
 "polscy obywatele pochodzenia zydowskiego nie
byli, tak naprawde, Polakami",
jakkolwiek informacja ta moglaby Cie zainteresowac czy zaskoczyc.

  Domyslam sie, ze w swoim PS MB na mysli osoby, ktore urodzone w obrebie
religii zydowskiej zmienily wyznanie i zostaly chrzescijanami.  
Po pierwsze grupa ta byla w przedwojennej Polsce stosunkowo nieliczna, 
a po drugie zgodnie z wymogami judaizmu osoby takie nie sa uznawane za
Zydow przez samych Zydow.  Znakomita wiekszosc Zydow polskich uwazala sie
za Zydow, mowila w Jidish, wielu sposrod nich polskiego WOGOLE NIE ZNALA
badz znala w bardzo ograniczonym stopniu.  Jesli dodamy do tego odmiennosc 
ubioru i zwyczaju to pozostaje zapytac MB na jakiej podstawie MB 
nazywa te grupe "Polakami pochodzenia zydowskiego" ??

  Rozroznienie to nie ma nic wspolnego z tym, kogo hitlerowcy uznali
za Zydow, jako ze ich prawa nosily charakter rasistowski i nie dopuszczaly
mozliwosci samookreslenie sie.
 
  Chcialbym na zakonczenie jeszcze raz silnie podkreslic: uznawanie
polskich Zydow za Polakow jest dla wspolczesnych Zydow silnie obrazliwe
(podobnie, jak dla Polakow obrazliwe jest uznawanie za Niemcow poznaniakow).
Co wiecej uwlacza to pamieci ofiar hitlerowskich, ktore zginely jako
Zydzi i do konca pozostaly wierne swojej religii i narodowosci.


                                  Pawel Penczek.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.polish:2135 soc.culture.jewish:14885
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
From: dczarkow@valhalla.cs.wright.edu (Dariusz Czarkowski)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:25:23 GMT
Organization: Wright State University


In article <87072@netnews.upenn.edu> kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu 
(Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:

>In article <matthew.714799780@mugga> matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Matthew Zalbiciewski) writes:
>
>>I believe that 6 million Poles perished in WWII, around the same
>>number as Jews. Please tell me I'm wrong Sam.
>>
>>MZ
>
>You're wrong: 6 million POLISH CITIZENS have been killed during the WWII,
>most of them were polish Jews.
 ^^^^

 HALF of them were Polish Jews.

 Dariusz Czarkowski
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: wilanowski@rsbs0.anu.edu.au
Subject: Polish "antisemitism"
Organization: Research School of Biological Sciences, Australian National University
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:09:04 +1000

I would like to add my observation on the hot subject of the Polish
antisemitism.

I have first realised that the "antisemitism" is still alive amongst the Polish
society back in 1988, after the instalment of the first non-Communistic
government in the Eastern Europe since WWII. At that time I heard that there
are "Jews" among us and they are to be hated. Why? Nobody really knew that.

This feeling of hatred seems to be growing continuously over the years. I was
so curious that I have finally asked my father, why he hates the Jews so much
although he has never seen a Jew in his entire life?

The explanation I was given was quite amazing. My Dad has told me that in his
vocabulary the word "Jew" does not mean a person of Jewish nationality or
religion. He uses this word to describe persons he dislikes, such as crooks etc.
A bit like the word "Pollack" does not exactly mean a person of Polish origin;
but it definitely means "a fool", "an idiot" etc. There are more similar
examples, for instance in Australia the word "seppo" (i.e. "septic tank") used
to describe the U.S. citizens is definitely abusive, but does not necessarily
mean "a U.S. citizen". Rather "someone that stinks", "someone I dislike".

Since the meaning of the word "Jew" in Polish is as described above, I wouldn't
exaggerate the power of the Polish antisemitism. The people use this word to
describe crooks, communistic thieves etc. Nothing really strange they want the
economical crimes to be stopped. The pity is they don't know much about the
Jews, as well as the Jews don't know much about the Poles. As a result, the
people of the Jewish nationality are being abused as well, they pay back in
their own coins etc., etc. How to stop it? I don't know.

Tom Wilanowski
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Organization: Cray Research Inc
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:02:17 CDT

In article <1992Sep1.195232.5646@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.190101.10084@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> s1137020@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mariusz Prokopczyk) writes:

>>(Have you noticed that "... the Poles are indeed guilty ..."?)
>>                                      ^^^ ps.MP
>
>Absolutely true.
>

Just for curiosity - if somebody writes "... the Jews are indeed guilty
..."  in similiar context
would you also say, that's absolutely true ? Don't you think, that
talking that way is to general ? I woldn't say e.g. that Germans
are guilty of genocide because among Germans I know very honest
people and I would be afraid to offend them. Especially, that some of
them also were victims of terror. Or even they were born after WWII
and their parents didn't have anything to do with all that genocide.
Isn't it  exaggeration, when somebody wants 
to judge entire nations ? Do you think, that there are many people
in the world that have qualifications for that ? And also considering
guilt between nations (which didn't fight wars) wouldn't mark
thinking in categories of common responsibility ?

>
>Perhaps respect would come when Polish society begins to own up to
>their own (past) actions regarding the Jews. Instead, what I continually 
>see is "yes, but....". 
>-- 

Could you explain whose respect would come ? How would you like
sentence like that:
"Perhaps respect would come when Jewish society begins to own up to 
their own (past) actions regarding the Poles"
>******************************************************************************
>Robert Greenstein           What the fool cannot learn he laughs at, thinking
>green@island.com            that by his laughter he shows superiority instead
>                            of latent idiocy - M. Corelli


Aleksander Mazur
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:52:57 CDT


In article <dobo.715023929@swalwell> dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz) writes:

>
>Poland was not like Germany - nobody was (legally) declared Jewish until
>he/she stated that directly during the census. Thus, there are three ways
>of counting Jews in Poland (or any non-nazi country):
>- those who list Jewish/Hebrew/... as their maternal tongue
>- those who say they are Jewish
>- those who claim to be of Jewish faith
>
>The last census in prewar Poland was in 1931. After that date about
>200,000 Jews emigrated from Poland, while some other were born or died.
>Thus, their number in 1939 was most likely about the same as in 1931,
>maybe a couple of %% higher.
>
>Tongue:	2732.6 thousand
>Religion:	3113.9 thousand
>(nobody asked whether a person was "Jewish", as in Polish law, such a
>question made no sense - they were all Polish citizens <---> I add this
>comment because of a shouting match on this very issue going on somewhere
>in the net.)
>

So it was set properly, wasn't it ? E.g. if someone's family lived
in Poland 800 years and declared themselves as Polish, they should be
believed. When WWII started number of Jews in Poland is estimated
to be 35 million - in that number are included Jews that immigrated
from Germany. So there was roughly 10 % of total population.
For comparison with other countries:

Soviet Union     1.2 %
Chechoslovakia   2.4 %
Bulgaria         0.8 %
Yugoslavia       0.5 %
France           0.8 %
Belgium          1.2 %
Holland          1.7 %
Denmark          0.2 %
Norway           0.1 %

The number of Jews in prewar Poland grew all the time, mostly because
of immigration. E.g. in 1926 immigrated 600 000 Jews from the Soviet
Union immediately granted Polish citizenship. Why all those immigrants
have chosen Poland, as it was such a discriminating and hostile
country ? Why did they decide to leave other countries at all ?
Why didn't they choose Scandinavia or Western Europe
as a place to stay ? Those 10 % seem to be such a disproportionate
number after all.

Aleksander Mazur

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 06:21:42 +0200
From: ianf@random.se (Ian Feldman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Apparently-To: rnews@sunet.se
X-Mailer: Fernmail 1.2b2
Organization: random design -- "Opinions, cheaply"
Subject: re: DONOSY (English translation) missing


  According to recent info Przemek's IBM computer has broken down
  completely, so all his mail has been lost for a time.  Try some
  of the other addresses contained in the header. 

--Ian
Xref: sparky soc.culture.polish:2120 soc.culture.jewish:14845
From: mir@opera.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:26:07 GMT
Reply-To: mir@opera.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Followup-To: soc.culture.polish
Organization: Chorus systemes, Saint Quentin en Yvelines, France

In article <1992Aug25.153656.29898@cs.brown.edu>, dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
%% matthew@stats.mu.oz.au (Matthew Zalbiciewski) writes:
%% #dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
%% #
%% ##ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
%% ### One group of racists (the
%% ### Germans and their allies) did their evil deed on other groups of
%% ### racists.  
%% #
%% ## Care to elaborate on this amazing statement?
%% #
%% # I sometimes see it like this:
%% #
%% #	The Nazis were only doing their job, while the rabidly
%% #	antisemitic Poles happily jumped on the band-wagon of
%% #	extermination of the Jews in Polish Death Camps.
%% 
%% I am not aware of any active Polish assistance in the extermination
%% process. Actually, the Polish underground made efforts to get the
%% word of what was happening in the "Einsatz Reinhard" death camps
%% (Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor) to the outside world. If people are 
%% interested, I can post the relevant facts.

Didn't you notice the irony/sarcasm of Matthew's remarks?
His sentence is a "collage" of anti-Polish provocative
propaganda, some people in the USA love to broadcast,
taking advantage of the relative ignorance of European
history among Americans (not necessarily greater than the
ignorance of the American history among Europeans).

-- 
Adam Mirowski,  mir@chorus.fr (FRANCE),  tel. +33 (1) 30-64-82-00 or 74
Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
From: jpb@calmasd.Prime.COM (Jan Bielawski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Polski Kompozytor Grecki ?
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:20:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: calmasd.4984
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Sep4.021007.1970@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> morro@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
<Witam Szanowna Publike
<
<	Moj szef niedawno uslyszal w radiu (105.1 MHz w Los Angeles) piesn
<Ave Maria i upiera sie ze napisal ja Polski kompozytor o nazwisku "Grecki" (!).
<Poniewaz byl zachwycony ta piesnia i koniecznie chce znalezc CD lub LP tego
<utworu prosil mnie zebym sie kolo tego zakrecil.  Nie powiem zebym byl
<ekspertem od muzyki klasycznej, ale jedyna piesn o nazwie Ave Maria ktora
<znam napisal Schubert.  Jezeli wobec tego ktos z panstwa ma jakas wiadomosc
<na temat wielkiego Greckiego piszacego na boku utwory klasyczne (w przerwach
<miedzy tercjami ? :) to bardzo bym prosil o wiadomosc.  Bardzo mi na tym
<zalezy, wiec nawet jestem gotow zniesc pare docinkow na temat Edmonton Oilers
<czy LA Kings :).  Dzieki !
<
<Jasiek

	Nazwisko kompozytora brzmi Gorecki.  Powiedz twemu leniwemu szefowi,
zeby sie przeszedl do najblizszego Tower Records czy cos w tym guscie, 
Gorecki ma (conajmniej) 2 dyski (CD) na Nonesuch Records.  3 Symfonia i cos 
jeszcze (zapomnialem).  Oba dyski byly walkowane i bardzo chwalone na 
rec.music.classical.

	Jesli ten tekst wyjdzie caly pokrecony prosze miec pretensje
do chwilowo skonfundowanych X Windows na moim "stanowisku pracy" ("workstation"!)

	Jan Bielawski
	Computervision, San Diego
	jpb@calmasd.prime.com
From: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: common Polish-German action (was: Nazi Cam
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:02:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: sarah.1992Sep4.190214.4375
Reply-To: pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu
Organization: SUNYA School of Public Health, Albany, NY

In article <7178@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, roman@sparc17.hri.com (Roman Budzianowski) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.204148.14300@sarah.albany.edu>,
>pawel@tethys.ph.albany.edu writes:
>
>>   I do not know whether you can read Polish but I can assure you that
>> Mariusz's irresponsible contributions are criticised (in Polish)
>> in this group.  I regret very much that this happend at all.
>
>>                          Pawel Penczek.
>
>
>Wait ! wait ! Co to ma znaczyc ? Chcesz sie podzielic ta opinia z kims
>to wyslij prywatny list. Ja akurat sie nie zgadzam z Mariuszem ale to
>powyzej jest zupelnie nie na miejscu. Sprawia wrazenie, ze wystepujesz w
>imieniu jakiejs grupy (mowiacych po Polsku). Pisz w swoim imieniu a
>krotkie uwagi o charakterze subiektywnym wysylaj prywatnie. W moim
>imieniu nie musisz nikogo przepraszac.

  Moja reakcja wynikala z faktu, ze Mariusz uzurpowal sobie prawo
wystepowania w imieniu Polakow i czynil to na lamach innych,
"niepolskich" list.  Uznalem, ze nalezy wyjasnic publicznie, ze
Mariusz nie jest naszym rzecznikiem. Jesli przeczytasz moj zacytowany
tekst uwaznie to z pewnoscia dostrzezesz, ze pisze "I regret",
a wiec bynajmniej nie przepraszam nikogo w Twoim imieniu.
List zawiera tez informacje (w pierwszym zdaniu) dla osoby
nie znajacej polskiego o tym, ze na lamach polskiej listy
dzialalnosc Mariusza zostala skrytykowana i informacja ta
nie nosi charakteru oswiadczenia w imieniu grupy.  Poza tym masz racje.

                                      Pawel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch)
Subject: Re: Nazi Camps
Organization: trunking_fixed
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:14:10 GMT

In article <BtLvDK.6zK@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.155538.7527@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug26.051741.9508@dgbt.doc.ca> ted@dgbt.doc.ca (Ted Grusec) writes:
>.......................
>>>
>>>I try to embrace those elements of various cultures that seem to be
>>>positive and to reject those that are actually or potentially
>>>destructive.  This is made easier, perhaps, by being a Canadian, which
>>>has exposed me to a varied multitude of cultures, closely
>>>intertwined.
>>>
>>>There is no cultural group that is not entirely capable of inflicting
>>>genocide on other groups out of blind chauvinism.  That, it seems to
>>>me, should be the way ww II is dealt with historically, not in terms
>>>of guilt and blame, but in terms of the human condition.  
>>>-- 
>>>==========================================================================
>>>Ted Grusec    Communications Research Centre    (Govt. of Canada, DOC)
>>> 3701 Carling Ave., Ottawa, Ont.K2H 8S2, CANADA  Internet: ted@dgbt.doc.ca
>>>  Compuserve: 73607,1576  (613) 998 2762   Fax (613) 993 8657
>>
>>My, my, what philosopher we have here, I would propose to you that,
>>instead of all this "eye of the beholder" crap and "try to imbrace
>>those elements of various cultures" terms, you go and talk to some
>>people that lived prior to the WWII in Poland, Germany and other
>>European countries and who rememeber those times well. Go and ask them
>>why there was so much antisemitism, you might found out more then
>
>My, my, what a cynic we have here. I would propose to you that you tell us
>why there was so much antisemitism, since you seem to know this. Will you
>muster enough courage to tell us what you think, instead of hiding behind 
>vague hints?
>
>>just by reading some bullshit sensored documentation.  
>>
>And what this 'some bullshit sensored documentation' might be?
>
>>>I hope we
>>>are moving toward the kind of understanding which obviates blind
>>>cultural chauvinism.  I don't think we have progressed very far down
>>>that path as I observe contemporary events.>
>>
>>Looks like John Lennon has come back to life.
>>
>Whom would you prefer to come back to life?
>>
>>So long, philosopher !!!!! 
>>
>Is 'philosopher' meant to be a term of abuse? 
>>
>>
>
>Andrzej Pindor
>
>-- 
>Andrzej Pindor
>University of Toronto
>Computing Services
>pindor@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca


Such things can't be discussed openly on the net, however I still suggest
that you speak to someone who lived before WWII. You may find out facts like
90% of business owned by one group of people, and all bunch of other interesting
things. Or better yet if you look long and hard into Hollywood you may find some
more interesting reasons.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:33:52 GMT

dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz) writes:
#marios@ecs.comm.mot.com (mario smarduch) writes:
#
#
##   [...] deleted
##whenever the Jewish communities were persecuted in Europe they always found
##freedom in Poland, the fact they owned like 90% of the business prior to
##WWII shows that Poland was tolerant.
#
##mario s.  
##   
#
#For your information:
#
#Republic of Poland, Statistical Yearbook 1939:
#pages 103-105:
#"Religion of owners of trade businesses" (read: shopowners) in 1938:
#
#Total	437 610
#Roman Catholic	190 723
#(Moses religion) = Jewish	216 498
#[...]
#unknown	22 842
#
#There goes your 90%.

Thanks for posting this information. Is there also an estimate to
the total number of Polish Jews at the time?

#I am sure you also wanted to know this (from same table):
#
#Owners of shops selling alcohol:
#		(this information is dedicated to Mr. Glemp)
#
#Total	3820
#R.C.	2801
#Jewish	812
#[...]
#unknown	171
#
#From another table (pp. 31-32), the percentage of Jewish shopowners who
#had no employees (one-man shops) was 82.1%

Is it possible that more Jews took jobs like shopowners because
they were not allowed, or discouraged, from other types of jobs?

-Danny Keren.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: aleks@cray.com (Aleksander Mazur)
Subject: Re: Nazi camps
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:15:49 CDT


In article <1992Aug31.131851.17274@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> sethr@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (seth.r.rosenthal) writes:

>
>Stan can surely speak for himself, 

Certainly, because First Amendment protects people expressing hatred,
bigotry, even racism, doesn't it ? Did you or anybody else in s.c.j.
however express any doubt, objection, or disgust to opinions like those
expressed by Stan and people alike ? So as you refer to such an opinion
could you kindly tell us whether you share with Stan his opinion
or disapprove ?

>                                       but I would like to remind
>the Polish participants here, that long before Hitler invaded
>Poland, in the 30's the Polish government had banned Jews from working
>in many professions, was conducting boycotts of Jewish businesses,
>etc. 
I suppose that reminding the Polish participants may in some cases
be not enough. Could you quote that specific act or executive order
of the Polish government that banned Jews from working in many
professions? Also could you be more specific which professions were banned ?
(maybe you have list of such professions ?)
>                                                      If you get
>Roman Vishniac's photo-essay about the pre-war years in Poland
>you will be struck by how many Jews in Warsaw or Lodz for instance
>had to become baggage porters or rag sellers, or how many Jewish
>businesses had to close long before the German Nazis arrived.

Did that photo-essay count, how many Polish workers had to become
baggage porters or rag sellers, or how many Polish businesses
had to close in pre-war Poland ?
>

By the way, how did you count those 1000 Jews that were murdered
by Poles during 1945 and 1946 years and what kind of sources you
are reading ?
>
>		Seth Rosenthal
>
>Disclaimer: All opinions are my own, not my employers'.

Aleksander Mazur
From: thaddeus@hpcvlx (Thaddeus Konar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: To Mariusz
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:52:52 GMT
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Marek Minta (minta@triton) wrote:
>                              I can't even see all that many Jewish people
> calling Arab people antisemitic. 

That is because Jews as well as Arabs are Semites. 

> Marek Minta

Tadek Konar