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From: owen@emds.enet.dec.com (Steve Owen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Sony vs RCA in Hi-Fi VCR's
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:37:55 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Organisation: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA



Hi,

I'm in the market for a Hi-Fi VCR... I've researched a bit, and now it's down 
to Sony or RCA...

Sony:	SLV585HF	No frills Hi-Fi VCR
	SLV686HF	w/Flying Erase Head
	SLV595HF	w/VCR+
	SVL696HF	w/VCR+ and Flying Erase Head

RCA:	VR667HF		VCR+ which controls the cable box

I don't think I need a flying erase head... I don't own a Video camera... and I 
don't expect to in the near future (next couple of years).

VCR+ is good, but worthless (IMHO) if it doesn't also control the cable box.  

What I want to know is a) which is most reliable b) which has best sound 
quality.

Have I missed any other "under $600" Hi-Fi VCRs that are decent quality?

Thanks for any info.

Steve

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From: ahom@yingjow.tnds.bellcore.com (Allen Hom)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: LBX Lethal Weapon I
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:52:12 GMT
Organization: Network Data Collection Presentation and Processing Development


In article <1992Oct8.144322.836@walter.bellcore.com>, dyang@mynah.bellcore.com (Danny Yang) writes:
|> Both CHLC catelog 92V06-L-346 and J&R Music World
|> Winter 92 catelog list Lethal Weapon as LBX, 
|> but not on their other catelogs.
|> I know Lethal Weapon II is in LBX, 
|> is there a LBX version for Lethal Weapon I?
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Kun-Min Yang
|> Bellcore, MRE2A260
|> (908)829-4417
|> 
Yes, I saw it in Image's catalog for $34.98.  The catalog number is
12371, while the non-letterbox version is 11709.  I believe the movie
was matted.
-- 
allen hom
Bellcore
ahom@tnds.bellcore.com
(908)699-5728
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: List your laserdisc titles
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:38:09 GMT
Organization: NASA GSFC

In article <2310066@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM>, jayj@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jay Johannes) writes:
> 
> Why would anybody want to do this?
> 
> I can't think of anything more boring than a list of the 300 titles I
> have, the 500 titles Bob Niland has, etc. I would guess that the sum
> total would be pretty close to the current catalog.
> 
>   Jay
> 
> 

Think of the entertainment value, though -- all those LDs are going to
be obsolete in years to come!  What a waste of money!

Just kidding, Jay, I waste my money on them too!  However, I've decided
that for all future purchases I will EXCLUSIVELY buy titles with interesting
extras.  The reason being that the discs then have value even after they
are obsolete.

This obsoletion can even occur now -- take Blade Runner.  In my opinion the
Directors Cut is so superior to the original version that my Criterion CAV
version of the movie itself will be obsolete when a good letterboxed version
of the Director's Cut is released (I hope Voyager plans to do this), EXCEPT
that it has some very interesting extras that not only made me enjoy the
Criterion disc more, but the Directors Cut more as well.

Just some ramblings....

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: davidric@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david ricardo)
Subject: Copying a Laserdisc to SuperVHS?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:59:24 GMT

If I were to buy a laserdisc, say of a concert video, and then try
to copy this to a SuperVHS tape through my SVHS VCR, will this work?

Is there some sort of copy protection involved that would make this
impossible.

Of course I would never consider doing this as I realize this is 
against the law, but was just curious if this is theoritically 
possible. I do not currently own a laserdisc but I do have a SVHS
VCR. Please email your responses to me. 

-- 

| Ricardo David              RacerX Engineering              |
| University of Illinois          ...keep them mowing        |
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: panisset@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Jean-Francois Panisset)
Subject: Recommendations for a Laser Videodisk Recorder
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:42:48 GMT


I currently have access to a laser video disk recorder made by Panasonic
a few years ago. The problem is that it only supports Composite NTSC input,
so the image quality is not great. Does anyone have any recommendations
for newer units which would accept a component video signal (either SuperVHS
or BetaCam)? The unit must be able to record frame by frame under external
control, and each frame must be individualy accessible.

Thanks in advance for any pointers,

JF

-- 
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      panisset@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: What Viedo System in Australia??
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:15:11 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <56@rook.ukc.ac.uk> mre@ukc.ac.uk (Mike) writes:
<In article <1992Oct13.173838.24757@cs.su.oz.au> rex@cluster.cs.su.oz (Rex Monty di Bona) writes:
<>In article <Bw25or.nG@cosy.sbg.ac.at> wzwei@frosch (Wolfgang Zweimueller) writes:
<>| I'd like to send a VHS video tape recorded in Austria to a friend of
<>| mine to Australia, but I do not know what kind of television system they
<>| use there.  The Problem is that i can not ask the guy directly because it
<>| should be birthday present!
<>| 
<>| Therefore the question is: Can he watch the video which I will record on
<>| a VHS system on his TV set?  Ah, our system is PAL.  
<>
<>The system in use in Australia is PAL too. You should be able to use
<>a European video here. I know we can watch a UK video with no problems on
<>a standard TV here, so is UK PAL and Austrian PAL the same?
<
<Unfortunately not - Australia uses PAL-B/G while the UK uses PAL-I.  The
<principal differences between the two systems are the video bandwidth
<(I:5.5MHz, B/G:5.0MHz) and (I think) the sound carrier offset (I:6MHz,
<B/G:5.5MHz).  There are also some differences between the vestigial sideband
<sizes (1.25 and 0.75MHz for I and B/G respectively).  
<
<These three factors unfortunately mean that RF-coded signals in Australia
<will not be correctly handled by UK TVs and VCRs.  However, it will be
<possible to use the AV connections to bypass the RF-tuner and thus allow the
<equipment to operate.  If you can, get hold of a copy of the service
<manual(s) since there may well be a simple modification (change the tuner
<can and move a link usually) which will allow off-air signals to be received
<correctly.

Boy, are you way off base.  The numbers you are quoting are for transmission
standards.  They have nothing what-so-ever to do with the information recorded
on the video tape.  The information recorded on the tape is baseband PAL, the
same the world over.

When the tape is played in the VCR and the RF output is used, the builtin
transmitter will output using the broadcast standard of the country the VCR
was purchased for.  If the video out connector is used, the results will be
better, since the modulation/de-modulation step will be avoided.

You also have to keep in mind that NONE of the transmission standard is recorded
on the tape.  It is BASEBAND only.

Boy, where do you guys get this false information?!
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Sync problem on old LD player
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:43:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

Kevin R. Sanders (kevin@cyber.net) wrote:

> I recently acquired an old Pioneer laser disk player (top loading, model
> PLD-1000 I believe).

VP-1000 or VP-1000A ?

> It works fine for CAV disks, but when I play CLV disks it will
> periodically (every 3-5 minutes or so) it will suddenly lose sync.

It might be interesting to check mint marks and see if the offending CLVs
are from a particular pressing plant.  Ask for article LD#09.

> My question is, what could cause the machine to jump tracks in the first
> place, and how would be the best way to troubleshoot this problem? 

I would look for the same sort of problem that causes this on CD players:
dirt or sludgy lubricant buildup on the laser positioning mechanism (slider
rails, rack&pinion, etc.).

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: LARIVEE@hsdwl.utc.com (HOT ROD)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VIDEOTECH Digest V92 #933
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:25:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: utrcgw.01GPZ4QZ81CY0030ZN
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

re :HRS4700,HRS6800U picture quality

The 6800U and 4700U have many of the same electronic video circuits.
New video noise reduction circuit (applying a digital signal transform
theory), Logical comb filter, Color responseimprovement circuit, 
Dynamic double limiter, Oval-Cut super double azimuth head system, and
a Twin path detail enhancer. I notice an improved lower noise level
using the enhancer, but with it off the picture is still very clean.
From: chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Jacobson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Joining Columbia House Laser Club
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:25:07 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>
>If you interested in laser disks, and want to save money, you really
>should be a CH member, buy from S'n'S, shop your local stores for sales
>- I got a couple of $39 disks I had been wanting for $9.98 recently.
>

The term is laserdisc with a "c" NOT a "k"!!!!!  A disk goes into a computer,
and a disc goes into a laserdisc player; not your computer disk player.

Chris Jacobson
People-NET [pnet51]                          INTERNET: chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org
Minneapolis, MN                                   AOL: cjacobson@aol.com
From: iac!simpson@uunet.uu.net (Scott Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Looking for 8mm VCR that can backup a computer too
Summary: Want 8mm VCR that doubles as a computer backup system.
Keywords: 8mm VCR, computer backup
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:56:22 GMT
Reply-To: iac!simpson@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Investment Technology Group, Culver City, CA


I am looking for an 8mm VCR that can be hooked up to a computer with
an RS-232 port or something so I can use the VCR to both play back my
tapes from my Handycam and back up my Macintosh. Does anyone know of
such a beast? I can even write the backup software for the Mac if the
VCR will allow a computer hookup and it doesn't come with software.

-- 
Scott Simpson, Investment Technology Group, iac!simpson@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jeanmarc@roannepictel.com (Jean-Marc Matteini)
Subject: Fosgate DSL One for sale 
Reply-To: user@machine.domain
Organization: PictureTel
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:14:52 GMT

Fosgate DSL One surround processor, 9 months old, mint with box and manual,
asking $350.00.

If interested (or questions about features) please call (508) 977-8261 (W)
or (508) 470-0963 (H) or email to jeanmarc@pictel.com (disregard email
address in the header).

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: dave@imax.imax.com (Dave Martindale)
Subject: Re: HDTV Myths (again)
Organization: Imax Corporation, Mississauga Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:14:43 GMT

(James Millick) writes:
>
>	How many times do we have to hear this myth. HDTV *DOES NOT*, by 
>any stretch of the imagination, even begin to equal 35mm film.

I must agree.  The only reference I've found for the "HDTV is as good
as 35mm" argument is that someone did a resolution test of 35mm film
running on a typical 35mm projector in a theatre.  In that test,
the resolution was about 800 lines - worse than the Japanese HDTV system.

However, typical 35mm projectors use plain old friction to hold the
film still during projection.  They have no registration pins.  The
image jitters up and down, and weaves from side to side.  It's not
too surprising that the resolution figure was low.

If you look at what's actually captured on film, 35mm resolution is
far higher than HDTV.  HDTV is "better" than 35mm only if you measure
35mm on crummy projectors, while at the same time using the best
equipment available for HDTV.  And I've *never* seen an HDTV
projector with the brightness and contrast of your average arc-lamp
35mm projector.

If and when decent HDTV projectors are available, HDTV might start
approaching 35mm quality for theatre use - in which case there would
be an incentive for someone to build a better 35mm projector, keeping
35mm ahead.  IMAX has always used pin-registered projectors to give
a much more stable image than current 35mm; building a smaller-format
pin-registered projector wouldn't be that difficult.

Finally, note that films improve every few years, so 35mm
keeps getting better.  With video, you have to go to an even higher-
resolution format (UDTV) which means junking all your hardware and
starting over.

	Dave


 Disclaimer: I work with film, so I'm biased.
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Top 10 Fav films?
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:32:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA GSFC

In article <wg2zxk+@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu writes:
> Okay, my List-Your-Laserdisc didn't work out, so how about your Top 10 Favorite films of all time?  I need (or want) to expand my tiny video library and would value others opinion.
>
>Anyway, this is my list (subject to change):
>	1. Raging Bull
>	2. Citizen Kane
>	3. Casablanca
>	4. 2001: A Space Odyssey
>	5. Ben-Hur
>	6. Notorious
>	7. The Godfather
>	8. Doctor Zhivago
>	9. Star Wars
>	10. Dr. Stragelove

What!  Where's _Strange Brew_?????

Steve
From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Problem with Pioneer 201 LD player
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:35:07 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Oct6.232506.26600@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, todd@flamingo.stanford.edu (Todd Koumrian) writes:
|> 
|> I am posting this for a friend who has no net access:
|> 
|> He has tried purchasing a new Pioneer LD player, the 201 model, and has
|> taken several specimens back because of a load clicking noise he hears
|> during playback, apparently mostly on CLV discs, and which is load enough
|> to hear over the program.
|> 
|> I have a CLD-3080 which has never had this sort of behavior, but it is
|> a higher priced model than the one he is purchasing, and is also heavier
|> (vibration damping?).
|> 
|> Have other people noticed this problem?  Is it a design flaw (feature) or
|> bad quality control?  Do any of the other (501, 701) players do this as well?

I have a CLD-2080 and on some disks (Ice Station Zebra, and one or two
others) the last part of side B has that loud stepping sound, I only have
about 60 disks now and the minor number is not that noticible.
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: hdtv is dead
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:58:25 GMT
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

In article <MJKOBB.92Oct16092254@media-lab.media.mit.edu> mjkobb@media.mit.edu (Michael J Kobb) writes:
>Um,

>  Perhaps I missed something but:

>>The last American TV company was Zenith.

>Was?  What happened to it?

Woops - IS.

Sorry!


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From: tbarnes@Teknowledge.COM (Terry A Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Joining Columbia House Laser Club
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:15:14 GMT
Reply-To: tbarnes@teknowledge.com (Terry A Barnes)
Distribution: na
Organization: Cimflex Teknowledge Corp., Palo Alto CA

>The way I prefer to "do it" is fulfill the enrollment obligation, quit, and 
>wait for the offer to rejoin.  The enrollment deal is much better.  (I've 
>done this with CD clubs--CH and BMG--and with CHLDC.)

How soon after you quit do they start sending offers to rejoin?  Is the offer
any different than the initial offer?

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:08:50 EDT
From: David Asher <DCA105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.production,comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: (Sub)titling info NEEDED (desperately)

Like the header says, I need some info on video titling.  I'm planning to try
subtitling some videos (Japanese animation) and I need to find a software
package that will allow automatic subtitling from a timed script.  I also need
to purchase an inexpensive (read CHEAP) genlock that is compatible with an
Amiga 500 computer.  I have FTP capability, so if there's any PD/Shareware
available on an FTP site that might do the job, I'd appreciate knowing.  The
equipment I plan to use is as follows:

Amiga 500,1Mb RAM,DOS1.3, 2 floppies
A genlock to be named later (like AmiGen, miniGEN, etc. (CHEAP+simple))

Pioneer Laserdisc player or 4-head VCR (input)
4-head VCR (output)

I currently have AmigaVision (1.0 it came with my computer), but since I don't
have the manuals with me (I'm at college right now) I don't know if it'll do
the trick.  I might buy TV*Text from someone ($20) if that will work.  Or I
could FTP some software.  Or I could buy something totally new (if it's cheap
enough).

What I'd like to know is: What's a decent genlock for under $200 and does
anyone have a used one they want to sell?                  (ie it titles in
color, selectable font sizes, 2-color (like outline) fonts, etc.)
that will hookup to my A500 without degrading the video signal much.  Anyone
got one for sale?   What's a software program that allows timed-script
titling?  Any reccomendations/suggestions/remarks/etc. ?

Any Information would be appreciated!

Dave


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From: cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: HDTV Myths (again) - don't believe the hype
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:37:45 GMT
Organization: Sequoia Computer Systems

In article <1992Oct6.190054.15059@news.media.mit.edu>, wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> Please, don't believe the hype [about HDTV].  
> [...]
> When you compare really clean NTSC with really clean HiVision, the main 
> difference is the aspect ratio, not the resolution.  This crowd especially,
> with an overwhelming population consisting of laser disc owners (arguably
> the best that NTSC can do), would, I think, be rather underwhelmed by the
> current state of HDTV.

Even with LD on my 31" Hitatchi monitor, I see a lot of NTSC color
artifacts. Color bars look pretty horrible compared to what I see on the
typical RGB computer displays I'm used to. I thought that one benefit of
HDTV was that we could expect colors not to be bandwidth limited. I notice
noisy NTSC reds pretty often...

> The next time you go to NAB and walk into Sony's booth and go into the back
> and enter their beautifully engineered viewing area and are struck by how
> good HDTV looks, think for a moment about how good an equivalently clean
> NTSC signal would look there, and how good a pristine 35mm print would look.
> If you hold each up to the same standard, I believe you'll see a continuum
> there, with NTSC at the bottom, HDTV in the middle, and 35mm above it.
> 

I'm the first to admit there's a tremendous amount that can be done with
NTSC. I know a guy who owns a local television studio, and really clean
NTSC can look very nice compared to what we're all used to watching.
However, comparing it to a really nice 24 bit RGB computer display makes
me think that a good HDTV standard could really put NTSC to shame.

What I hope is that the standard is defined in an extensible manner such
that higher resolutions and frame rates can be supported without waiting
50 years to trash the standard all over again. The standard should be
defined such that there is no upper limit on resolution, or it's at least
pretty large (say, at least 16,000,000 by 16,000,000).

Now, *media* obviously won't have the bandwidth to support that, nor will
current displays be able to project it, but the standard defining the
digital data should be able to handle it in an extensible way - i.e. the
standard should define how the data is treated when there is a difference
between the resolution of the source material, and the resolution of the
display device.
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From: dhukill@esprit.prime.com (Dave Hukill x4056 5-1)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: SVHS Camcorder For Sale
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:07:03 GMT
Distribution: usa

I'm posting for a friend, so please don't contact me.


What: Panasonic PV-430

Description: SVHS Camcorder

Major Features: - Full digital effects
		- Extra wide-angle lens

Price: Originally $1400, asking $695

Comments: Like new. Batteries and tripod included.

Please contact Jeff at (603) 529-3609 (evenings, please leave message)



Dave Hukill <dhukill@esprit.prime.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video