From: picou@convex.com (Michael Picou)
Subject: Re: Hunters Needed (and all that Jennifer L. Johnson BS)
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:12:29 GMT
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swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG) writes:


>I have compiled a collection of the best of J.L.J. just to show how truly
>far out her views are.  I hope you middle of the roaders are reading this!

>Jennifer L. Johnson in talk.politics.animals rights:

>>My guess is that the hunters will prove themselves to
>>be the cowards we AR folks suspect they are.

Cowards... I find her so humorous.  She talks about how rational she is,
how well maintained and all that BS.  Every dealing with her has been
an insult to my intelligence.  The cowards are those who hide behind her
type of cloud.

>>I hated hunters long before there _was_ an AR movement.
>>Nobody convinced me to view hunters as cowardly scum,
>>and no hunter has ever given me reason to doubt that assessment.

When has J.J. ever taken the time to get to know a hunter.  Her prejudice
of hunters has blocked her ability to look any further than "HUNTER".
She is hardly worth debating with.

>>If no hunter shows up at the debate, lots of folks will believe just that,
>>that out of all the hunters in the state of Texas (and elsewhere), not one
>>has the testicular fortitude to argue for the pro-hunting side.  Pretty sad.

I don't know of any hunters who feel that it is worth the time.  Most ARs are
so ignorant that it wouldn't be a debate.  If ARs had any wildlife sense,
they would focus their efforts elsewhere.

>>Then show up and set us straight.  I'll bet very few of you hunters have the
>>slightest idea of what the animal rights movement is all about but, rather
>>have a perception based solely on folklore and tradition, tradition that says
>>"men have always hunted, so it must be okay," tradition that constipates the
>>progress of ideas, and causes humans to hang on to their neanderthal past as
>>predators.

If ARs did their homework and had a clue to what they were talking about,
there would be a reason to go to this bunny hugger convention.  It doesn't
matter what facts hunters introduce to the ARs, they will either change the
subject or find some circumstantial argument that has no backing or worth.

>>In my book, brainwashed beats brain-absent.  "Open your mind," says Archie
>>Bunker, "and someone will come along and shove alot of crap in there." 

Kinda like J.J. is always trying to do...

>>You hunters keep talking about how this debate is stacked against you.
>>If you're unwilling to even try to make this a fair
>>debate, you forfeit the right to bitch about its unfairness.

It just isn't worth the time and harassment.  If there was a chance that
the facts would be acknowledged and the debate wouldn't be a bunch of
crying ARs attempting to look at the issue as it stands instead of how they
have been brainwashed to believe.  I was wondering, do ARs still believe the
animals speak???

>>I honestly don't know how anyone could deliberately and needlessly take the
>>life of an animal and "go on."  I know I couldn't.

Just because you can't, doesn't mean that I can't.  That is why we are called
individuals.  I know too many people who don't hunt because they can't bring
themselves to kill.  But they could care a less if I do it.  As a matter of
fact, they come out to my house and eat the game I kill.


>JUST FOR THE RECORD DEPARTMENT:
>	I made a challenge to our dear J.L.J. in regards to the fact that
>I felt she was way out of touch with what hunting was all about.  I said
>that I would be willing to put my guns and bows away for a day to go to
>her state and to take her out to a hunting area to meet some real hunters,
>spend a day in the woods and let me show her what hunting was all about -
>especially how it to me.
>	She proceeded to call me more names and call me a murderer and
>turn me down cold saying "I would not spend my time with a murderer so
>I would not spend my time with you."  Then she turns around and expects
>me to drive a couple thousand miles to spend my time with a whole group
>of J.L.J.s!

I remember one day I tried to talk to her.  It was to no avail.  She has
such a front put up, she will never see the truth, only block it right out.
If a hunter believes in it, it has got to be wrong....


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