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From: c92caren@IDA.LiU.SE (Dingbats)
Subject: Re: Using non-default icon for RAM:
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:18:40 GMT

In article <Rick_Lang.00ux@amusers.UUCP> Rick_Lang@amusers.UUCP (Rick Lang) writes:

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>   After you copy an appropriate Disk.info file to RAM: in your user-startup,
>   you may need to add the command DISKCHANGE RAM: to get the system to
>   recognize that you have just 'changed' the disk.  It worked for me in my
>   WB1.3 days, but I haven't bothered with this since WB2.  Have fun.

Well the only thing you have to do is make sure you copy the icon back
to RAM: before the WB pops up i.e. in the s:user-startup or before
'loadwb' in s:startup-sequence, that's all...:-)
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From: Klaus_Seistrup@magneto.bbs.bad.se (Klaus Seistrup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: IDEA->Macro prog w/j
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 21:43:02 +0000
Reply-To: Klaus_Seistrup@magneto.bbs.bad.se (Klaus Seistrup)
Distribution: world
Organization: Magnetic Ink, Copenhagen N, Denmark 
OD-Comment-To: Andy_Finkel


andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) writes:

 >> BTW, why is Conclip a separate program?  And the same goes for IPrefs? 
 >> Why weren't they integrated into the Shell/Workbench?

 AF> There were several reasons at the time: [...]

Oh, well ... okay ... but could we have crawling ants on the ConClip thing, 
please??? Crawling ants would definitely make me want to try using ConClip 
instead of Snap ... ;-)

  Bliss!

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From: bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re:  WorkBench 2.1?
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:06:45 CST
Organization: Society to Stamp Out Bogus Organizations

In article <C0Fuyt.LzL@news.cs.andrews.edu> adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap) writes:
>I thought, the final release of version 2.04 was renamed into version 2.1.
>So essentially 2.04 is the same as 2.1

I'm not from =CBM, but if you rephrase this as "the most recent version 2
release of AmigaDOS is 2.1", you are correct.  Release 2.04 is not the same
as release 2.05 and neither of them are the same as release 2.1.
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From: eb15+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward D. Berger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Fountain
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:02:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.cfGjGIK00WB_04Z7ck
	<C0E0Mq.75x@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

When using the version command on libraries, it always returns the version 
of the the library in use, not the version of a file even if you are in the
libs directory.  I would say to use the FILE keyword, but I currently get no
version string found, when I use that option.  Important system libraries
such as diskfont.library require you to reboot to change versions, since so
may programs access them.  For other libraries, you can just stop all 
processes that use them, and do an "avail flush" command several times to 
force the old libraries out of memory and allow the new version to be loaded
by the next calling program.  

Version 37 is supposed to be on the Fonts disk libs directory, and is not the
default 2.x library because it too much ram for small (512K-1M) systems, so
the default version is 36, and the install script asks which version to install
on HD based systems, which probably have more RAM.

I'd like to see an enhanced version command which would check the current
directory or given file path, and list both the in-use version and the file
version for libraries, so we can easily check which version is on a 
distribution disk.

-Ed Berger
eb15@andrew.cmu.edu
From: dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Fountain
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:42:21 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Thanks for all the help - what appears to have happened is I overwrote with the short
version (36.xx) of diskfont.library when installing some software (perhaps 2.05) -
easily fixed. The machine I have did not come with a hard disk (500+) and so the
2.04 distribution set has no HD tools (except the dreaded HDBackup) and no proper
manuals (only the "this is an icon" one), so I did both installs manually, and I
thought I had done Fonts: last.

Cheers anyway
Dave
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From: Rick_Lang@amusers.UUCP (Rick Lang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Using non-default icon for RAM:
Distribution: world
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:08:35 PST
Organization: AmUsers - The Amiga Users Group of Victoria BC

In a message dated Mon  4 Jan 93  2:49, alfredo@ajahnv.lonestar.org
(Alfredo Jahn V) wrote:

 AJV> I colorize my RAM: disk icon and save it. Looks great. Re-boot, and
 AJV> its back to its old self! I tried saving the colorized ram:disk.info
 AJV> to harddisk and after booting, copying it to ram:.  It didn't work!

After you copy an appropriate Disk.info file to RAM: in your user-startup,
you may need to add the command DISKCHANGE RAM: to get the system to
recognize that you have just 'changed' the disk.  It worked for me in my
WB1.3 days, but I haven't bothered with this since WB2.  Have fun.

 -- AEd V1.37/Eval

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From: dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Using non-default icon for RAM:
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:41:25 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

The trick is to copy the custom icon from hard disk or wherever to RAM: before you
start Workbench. It is wise to launch Workbench late-ish in your Startup anyway since
it polls all the disks and makes a nuisance of itself.

Dave
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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Gremlins are munching my memory! (FastRam)
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:55:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.726198900
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

I can't find the memory muncher that is eating my Fast RAM :<

It seems like the amount of Fast Ram available to me on boot up keeps shrinking,
and I can't figure out where it is going... :<

I have a 2000HD, with 2.04, 1mg Agnus/2mg Fast using full Overscan and an
Interlaced screen on a monochrome monitor.   I understand that Overscan and
Interlacing take up CHIP ram, but it is FAST RAM that is disappearing, and I'd
like to know just *what* the memory munchers are, and how much memory they
are using - so I can make intelligent decisions on what to delete for optimum
performance.                

I've discovered the CLI commands "avail" and "status" as well as the shareware
program ARTM, but none of those will tell me just how MUCH memory is being
taken up by each individual item.  :<

Also...

Is there a way to get programs to RELEASE all of the memory they snatch when you
load them?  It's frustrating to have 900K, load a program that takes 150K and
only releases 100K of it when you close it, leaving 50K still in memory that
can't be accessed. :<  This plays havoc with Pagestream when I want to work
with large files or graphics and the memory that was there earlier is now
unavailable... :<

And I noticed that running "status" munched a bunch of memory and didn't
let go of it when I exited the shell.

I *know* I can just buy some more Ram and solve the above problems, but money
is tight right now, and I'd like to learn where my memory is going...

Thanks...
 Crystal
    :>
From: kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Great feature in 1200 (3.0?)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:18:55 PST
Organization: Citizens Against Whiny A-Holes, Sacramento, CA

In article <1iqvv9INNnmp@ub.d.umn.edu> rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) writes:
> :In article <griffita.726704390@sfu.ca>, griffita@fraser.sfu.ca (David Stuart Griffiths) writes...
> :>There's a great feature that I just discovered in my new A1200.  If
> :>you manage to guru the machine, it displays the flashing guru box on
> :>the screen as usual, but it REBOOTS after 8 seconds!!!!

> Anyone know if this feature is on the A4000?
> 
> 
> 	Robert Fentiman
> UseNet: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu

It's actually a feature of Kickstart 3.0 so yes, the A4000 can do this
also.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: brant@cs.UAlberta.CA (Brant Coghlan)
Subject: Amiga Stores in Orlando Area
Keywords: Devcon
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:18:55 GMT

Are there any stores in the Orlando Florida area which carry Amiga products?
Which is the best?

Brant Coghlan, brant@cs.ualberta.ca
From: I.A.Inman@newcastle.ac.uk (I.A. Inman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: DON'T LET THE AMIGA DIE - PART III.
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:13:19 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Originator: n08dp@tuda


I may as well put my penny's worth in here.

The Amiga has three problems to contend with.

1) Increasingly cheaper PC's, the Windows operating system, software to do
anything you want (except arcade games).   Can the same be said softwarewise of
the Amiga?

2) Consoles - for games playing, a cheaper alternative to even the A600.   To
compete effectively, a drastic price cut is required.   In Britain, the oncoming
price rises don't help.   I'm sure Commodore could go below 250 pounds with this
machine, and still make a profit.   The increased sales would more than offset the
price cut - in a recession, no one is going to pay 330 pounds for an A600.   And
the A1200 should be sold at 300 pounds, not 440 pounds.   It's possible, as you
Americans already know.

3)The Amiga's image.   In Britain, your average punter see's the machine as a
games maching, and useful for nothing else - "We'll get ourselves a 486 PC, and
little Johnny an Amiga to play games on."

Buy an A2000 (or whatever it's replacement will be), save a fortune - if you've
a need for a PC at a later stage, then buy an emulator.

AND IF ONE MORE SO CALLED PERSON IN THE KNOW SAYS THE AMIGA IS NOT WORTH BUYING
BECAUSE OF IT'S GAMES ARCHITECTURE, I'LL KICK THEIR ****ING HEAD IN!!!!
Only Joking! :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

								Ian A. Inman.

P.S. Yes, I know I've comdemned the Amiga recently in the 'Amiga kick's PC butt'
thing - er sorry!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: nrichers@trentu.ca (NIKOLAJ RICHERS)
Subject: Re:  Notebook
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent Computing and Telecommunications Department
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:39:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.173711.6582@nynexst.com>, clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes...
> 
> 
>Anyone heard of a program called Notebook and/or have anything
>to say about it?  It's a utility where you can record notes,
>and organize them.  I think it's by Black Belt.  My husband
>is looking for a birthday present for me.  I know...  Too
>close to Christmas, and he hasn't even paid the Mastercard
>yet!  :-)
> 
>Thanks, Clare
>clare@nynexst.com

Creative Computers, a mail-order house in California sells it. It's quite cheap;
around $26.95.

Sounds like something I need to collect my ideas; only I don't even have a
Mastercard.

Nikolaj (1)

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(1) Nikolaj Peddie-Richers, Trent University, Canada, nrichers@trentu.ca
From: davet@uk.sun.com (Dave Tong - Sun UK - Tech Support)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Workbench 2.1 - UK release?
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:45:49 GMT
Reply-To: davet@uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems Ltd.

Well, having been given the usual runaround by C= UK,
I spoke to someone in the Sales & Marketing dept, who
said that WB2.1 would be released here "in the next few weeks".
He wouldn't commit further than that, or give a provisional price.

What do you get with the US release of 2.1?
Does it come with a V2.x kickstart ROM, or do I buy that separately?
At the moment, I'm at 1.3 - will I have to go via 2.04 or can I
leapfrog straight to 2.1?

I'm sorry if this issue has already been flogged to death.

Dave.

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From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: WorkBench 2.1?
Summary: Yer slightly confused
Keywords: 2.1
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:29:16 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <C0Fuyt.LzL@news.cs.andrews.edu> adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap) writes:
>In article <1ic777INNfu6@mercury.kingston.ac.uk> cs_e445@ceres (Vlod Kalicun) writes:
>>I.A.Inman@newcastle.ac.uk (I.A. Inman) writes:
>>: 
>>: Am I missing something here?
[...]
>>: What the hec is WB2.1?
>>
>>Vlod
>
>I thought, the final release of version 2.04 was renamed into version 2.1.
>So essentially 2.04 is the same as 2.1
>
>Am I being mislead here?  

No, you're being misleading. :-)

>Anyone from commodore want to verify this?

I'd prefer to refute it.  2.1 is not 2.04.

Maybe you have a bad time sense, and are remembering how, 2 years or so 
ago, what was being discussed as "1.4" became "2.0".  Or perhaps how, later, 
the final Release 2 product was actually 2.04, not 2.0.  Or something...

>|    Procrastination is my sin          | Edsel Adap
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: thom@odie.cs.mun.ca (Thom the Tyrant)
Subject: De-fragmenting?
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:50:56 GMT

Could someone point me in the right direction to find a good HD
defrager? or if I even require one. I ASSUME I do. Lord knows I
shifted enough stuff around [ie: Delete/copy etc;]
 I am using a SCSI HD and controller [WB 1.3], 3 partitions are
FFS and another is OLD format.

Advance thanx,
Thomas

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mike@rahul.net (Mike Smithwick)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Laboratories Newsletters: Anyone getting them?
Organization: a2i network
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:58:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.105351.366@actrix.gen.nz> keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart) writes:
>
>> The next Amiga newsletter is due to come out this month. With 3 platforms
>> supported it is becoming difficult publish 3 different newsletters.
>> 
>> mike
>
>
>Say Mike I have seen the ad for Distant Suns for Windows in Astronomy mag
>Hope its selling OK. Any chance of an AGA version so we can see those
>NASA pics in HAM8 or 256 colours. 
>

I'd like that too! But I ain't about to redigitize all 230 pictures,
since the orginals were only 4 bits. Plus the images would be so
bit that they would be strictly a CD-ROM product.


>> 
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It's a Saturday Night Live gag.

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From: umkormil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sean Craig Kormilo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: ANIM7
Date: 10 Jan 93 02:09:30 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


	Is there any body out there who can write a program to assemble
pictures in the ANIM7 format? Also a viewer would be nice. I will be
purchasing a Amiga4000 soon and will want to play anims a 30fps, and as
far as i can tell from all the talk in the newsgroups, you will need a
faster anim format. Any help would be appreciated and i look forward to
your replies.

umkormil@ccu.umanitoba.ca
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WHY DirOpus when there are Just as good PD ones?
Date: 9 Jan 93 16:58:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1993Jan9.095847.7566
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


> >I can tell why I bought DOpus.  SID wouldn't run under 2.04
> 
> SID ran under 2.04 for me, and is currently running under 2.1.

SID v2.0 does run under ADOS v2.x.  My earlier version of SID did not run
under either v2.03 or v2.04.  It opens the SID window but it's very small
on the 704x480 screen.  Nothing comes up when you request a directory,
things destabilize after that, and 1-2 minutes later, the machine crashes.
A friend of mine with SID v2.0 reports that it runs great on his A4000.



        -=- Ed

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (M.S. Ashton)
Subject: Re: Need 15Khz monitor? HELP!!!!!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:52:56 GMT

The Taxan multivision 770 + LR 14" also does this as do a few other non-CBM
monitors.

The Taxans a lovely(but pricey) monitor but they stopped making it last week!
(grab yours now!)
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basically,because I haven't got one.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner)
Subject: Quandry: Upgrade path
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 00:40:29 GMT

I currently have an A2000 w/8MB of memory and a pre-ECS Agnes.  I will
upgrade soon, but I haven't decided which path to take:

	1) Get an accelerator (GVP G-Force '040 Combo: 33MHz '040, SCSI-2
	   controller, serial and parallel ports) and a 24-bit display
	   card (Opalvision).  $1899 + $999 = $2898

	2) A4000.  $2699

There are other considerations, but the main ones are:

	Option one gives me 8MHz more speed for $200, but only 16-bit bus.

	Option two gives me Zorro III and another Amiga, but no SCSI controller.

I'd like discussion because I haven't decided and would like additional input.
Also, I'm sure that I'm not the only one contemplating this.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ntustu1@iti.gov.sg (NTU Student 1)
Subject: Re:  Why are they ignoring the Amiga?
Keywords: Amiga,Applications,Software Market
Reply-To: ntustu1@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:41:45 GMT

If Amiga developers create applications that are even more powerful/useful/
friendly/stable/fast/attractive than applications running on other platforms,
then make these advantages known through extensive advertising/training and
make them available at lower costs (than other platforms), there would be

a) More satisfied Amiga owners
b) More Amiga owners buying these applications
c) More non-Amiga owners seeing the benefits of owning an Amiga
d) More Amiga owners
e) Bigger market for Amiga applications
f) More money/incentive/reason for Amiga software development
g) More and better Amiga software
h) goto a)

It's not that simple in real life, however. Someone's got to take that first
step...

-tomwoof-