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From: white@mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master)
Subject: Re: Clearlight / Clearlight Symphony ??
Organization: S.H.A.D.O.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:35:58 GMT

In article <92276.003857DAB112@psuvm.psu.edu> <DAB112@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Some time ago I heard about a band called CLEARLIGHT SYMPHONY from the
>Marillion FREAKS mailing list 
>Point is, someone said CS.  The name sounded intriguing 
> My question is: is there any difference
>   or is Clearlight the same thing as Clearlight Symphony????
>
>	Oh, and some discographies would be extremely helpful, too!!

	Ah, you've finally stumbled across the Canterbury scene!
For a more detailed discography, refer to the Canterbury discography
posted to the net.  Clearlight is indeed, the same as Clearlight
Symphony.  Their albums are:

	Clearlight Symphony, 1975 (Virgin)
        Forever Blowing Bubbles, 1975 (Virgin)
        Les Contes Du Singe Fou, 1976 (Isadora)
        Visions, 1978 (LTM)

	The band is really Cyrille Verdeaux's outfit, and the lineup
is almost completely changed on every album.  Obviously, the "Symphony"
comes from the first album, and was subsequently dropped for an
unknown (to me) reason.

	I like "Forever", but find some of the compositions to be
repetitious in structure.  "Les Contes" is much better, though I
think the singing is bad.  This album features Tim Blake from Gong.
"Visions", which I've never heard, has Didier Malherbe (also of Gong).
The first album features a long solo piece of Verdeaux's for the first
side, while the second side is more group-oriented with Gong members
guesting.  Reportedly, the CD reissue of this album on Mantra re-
places the second side with some previously unreleased live material.

Dave White
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From: gra@groon.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Aranda - 'Confusion will be my epitaph')
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Sky?  No, Skyy.
Date: 30 Sep 1992 18:06:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article 9111@vax.oxford.ac.uk, nelson@vax.oxford.ac.uk () writes:
> In article <1992Sep28.065317.1102@muddcs.claremont.edu>,
> jstimson@jarthur.claremont.edu (John Stimson) writes:
> > 
> > While at a record swap today, I found three records by a band called Sky, 
> > this seemed to be a completely different band - had vocals...
> >
> There are brief vocals on exactly one Sky track, on "The Great Balloon Race".
> I suspect there is indeed another "Sky".
>  
> > Are these two different bands?  Where can I find a recording of the former?
> > Ranjit, do you think the Sky albums you have are related to the first or
> > second group I described?  From the Mozart one, I'd guess the first, but I
> > could be wrong...

  There is a non-related, non-progressive band called Skyy (double 'y').  
  Could this be the other band whose records you saw at the swap? 

  I've never listened to Skyy, but the album covers have been enough to make it 
  clear (to me) that they have NO relationship to progressive rock.  And, yes,
  Skyy do appear to be a 'vocals' oriented band, unlike Sky who are definitely
  instrumentals oriented.
From: jbbg0390@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (God of Dichloromethane )
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Chris Squire
Summary: Info about the Chris Squire Disk "Fish out of Water"
Keywords: YES, Chris Squire
Date: 26 Sep 92 20:20:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana



   Can anyone tell what that Chris Squire album "Fish out of Water" is like?
   While watching Yesyears they played clips of a video made from that album,
   but I know very little about the rest of it.  I thought the album would
   probably be similar to Yes in the late 70's (near Tormato) but I'm not sure.
   I'm thinking of trying to pick up the album but wanted to know first.

   Thanx,

   Justin
From: piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (henry bart)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Silmarillion
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:37:15 GMT
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
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> I've occasionally people mention a band called Silmarillion in
> connection with Marillion.

A band or a book.  The Silmarillion was a book by J.R.R. Tolkein.


Mike Taylor -=- piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (henry bart)
Subject: Re: Nektar disc?
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Distribution: alt.music.progressive
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:28:47 GMT

|I have never heard of _Man in the Moon_ nor seen it listed anywhere.  For 
|_Tab_ do you have the date on the album?  I got the info from a book since
|I don't have that album.

-=> I have the album and it`s dated 1972.

Okay, thank's for the update.  I'll change my list.  What about _Man in the
Moon_?  Do you know when that came out?


Mike Taylor -=- piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: Chris Squire
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:45:37 GMT

Are there any bootleg recordings available of the new Squire/White
band only playing in California?

Scott -- who'd like to hear them!

Xref: sparky alt.music.progressive:2884 alt.music.alternative:12077
From: ferrall+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chris Ferrall)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Copper Blue
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:47:23 GMT
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>Has anyone heard the Sugar Album 'Copper Blue'?  Is it any good - ie - worth
>shelling out the bucks for?  Please give info.

Yes,

I got a tip about Copper Blue from someone in this group last week.  
Excellent.  Much in the same vein as Black Sheets of Rain. More range
in the vocals but still one gut wrenching chord after another.
Bob still works most of the time within narrow parameters, but
I'm far from bored.

This news group spends a lot of time arguing about Nirvana and Pearl Jam.
Both admirable groups, but both owe a lot to Husker Du.  After ten
years Bob is showing everyone that mature thrash is not an oxymoron.  
I'd be surprised (pleasantly) if any Seattle bands survived to give us 
mature grunge.  

Any information on a Mould or Sugar tour is much appreciated.  His
solo show three years ago at First Avenue was blistering.

--Chris Ferrall
From: REEKES@applelink.apple.com (Jim Reekes)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Nektar disc?
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:16:12 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Distribution: alt.music.progressive
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Sep25.015108.27278@cs.tulane.edu>,
piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (henry bart) wrote:
> 
> 
> RM> Can anybody out there provide me with a complete Nektar
> RM> discography? Also how about some rating of the albums, so I don't
> RM> go out and waste my money on one thats really bad.
> 
> Discography
> 
> 1972 Journey to the Centre of the Eye
> 1973 Live at the Roundhouse
> 1973 Sounds Like This
> 1974 Remember the Future (or '73?)
> 1975 Down to Earth
> 1975 Recycled
> 1976 Nektar
> 1976 A Tab in the Ocean
> 1976 Magic is a Child
> 1978 Through the Ears
> 1979 Live in New York
> 1980 More Live in New York

Necktar is one of my favorite psych-rock bands.  They centered around
sci-fi
stories, and  pre-date some of the space rock themes such as Bowie's "Space
Oddity" and Elton John's "Rocket Man."  I especially enjoy "Remember" and
"Recycled."  The later has support from Larry Fast.

You didn't mention "Man In the Moon" from 1980.  This one is very much like
a Genesis album.  I like it equally as well as some of the mid-period
Genesis.
This is the "pre-Michelob" years of Genesis.

By the way, I have "A Tab in the Ocean" dated as 1972.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (henry bart)
Subject: Re: Clearlight / Clearlight Symphony ??
Organization: Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:34:53 GMT
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> The name on it, however was CLEARLIGHT. The album was entitled
> "Forever Blowing Bubbles". It seemed to fit the description. It was
> more of a fusion rock-jazz type of sound. It's pretty decent. My
> question is: is there any difference or is Clearlight the same thing
> as Clearlight Symphony????

The band's name is Clearlight.  Their first album was _Symphony_ and the second
was _Forever Blowing Bubbles_.  The third as _Les Contes du Singe Fou_.  Only
the first two have made it to CD.  _Symphony_ consisted of two songs with
different people (except for Verdeaux.)  The first side has members from the
classic Gong lineup with Tim Blake, Steve Hillage, etc.  I haven't heard
_Forever Blowing Bubbles_ but it has more, shorter songs, though still in
the vein of their first.  I've never even seen the third album, though I know
it exists.


Mike Taylor -=- piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu

Xref: sparky alt.music.progressive:2831 rec.music.newage:3410
From: craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (craig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.newage
Subject: Of Sound Mind
Keywords: progressive store
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:04:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology, Government Systems

Greetings!

  I was really bummed when Playing By Ear in Baltimore, MD closed up
a couple of months ago. There went one of my best sources for progressive,
electronic and other non-commercial music. Well, what the propritor 
(Dave) didn't bother to tell anyone was that the store was _not_ closing,
as it had been bought  and was going to remain open! I had gotten word
that the esablishment was still open thru the TD mailing list and made it
a priority to give the place a visit the next time I passed thru Baltimore.
Yesterday was that day.

  The store is now known as "Of Sound Mind". The shop is located at 5615
Belair Road in Baltimore (that's Route 1, BTW) and the owner is Chris Lamka.
He can be reached at 410-325-5722. He bought the store lock, stock and
barrel from Dave, so most of the old inventory is there (i.e. vinyl).
What's gone is most of the really weird stuff that Dave used to play and
sell. In it's place is a small but growing collection of progressive
rock. Labels such as Musea, Syn-Phonic, Laser's Edge, Made In Japan
were all well represented and the prices are lower than Dave's (but
still not as good as Ranjits'!) The business has been slow, according
to Chris, because Dave didn't bother to tell anyone that the store was
going to carry on. Chris has some high hopes for the shop; he intends
to build up his stock by finding some overseas distributors so that he 
can drop the cost. He is also going to try and sponsor some local
progressive "festivals". If you are in the area, stop in and check out
the store or give him a call if you are looking for something. He does
special orders.

The NA section is kinda sparce, but there were a few gems there. The
electronic music bins were quite good, latest additions being Synco
(the German duo, heavy TD influence) and a fairly full selection
of Steve Joliffe CD's.

(I am in no way associated with any of the individuals or establishments
named above. Just trying to spread the progressive word!)

-- 
Regards,

Craig Shipley

=  Craig Shipley, aka: craigs@pyrtech.pyramid.com    = aTTeNTioN, TeCHNiCiaNS =
=  Pyramid Technology Corp., Annapolis Junction, MD  = oF SPaCeSHiP eaRTH!!   =
=  I speak for myself, not my company.               = THiS iS YouR CaPTaiN!! =
=  ATTENTION.THIS UNIT WIRED TO OPERATE AT 220 VOLTS = YouR CaPTaiN iS DeaD!! =

-- 

Regards,

Craig Shipley

      -m------- Craig Shipley	aka: craigs@pyrdc.va.pyramid.com
    ---mmm----- Pyramid Technology Corporation 
  -----mmmmm--- 10010 Junction Dr. Suite 112
-------mmmmmmm- Annapolis Junction, MD 20701   	 (301) 725-5705

  Opinions expressed here, if any, are my own and not Pyramid's.

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Silmarillion
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:09:15 GMT

In article <21502.2759215021@kiwi.gen.nz> rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet) writes:
>I've occasionally people mention a band called Silmarillion in connection with
>Marillion. Are they one and the same? What did Silmarillion record? Did they
>have Fish singing for them?
>

	Silmarillion was Marillion's original name.  When they started to
get big, they dropped the "Sil-" and capitalized the "M".  I don't know
exactly why they changed it.  Fear of a lawsuit from Christopher Tolkien?
Desire for a shorter name?  Fear that a band with a name taken straight from
Tolkien's works could never make it big?  

	Does anyone out there know?

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: borella@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Mike Borella)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Meeks' Review #2 - Minimum Vital
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:13:26 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

In article <1992Sep28.210047.60949@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>
>Overall, this first album is excellent.  Very guitar/flute oriented.  Drums
>are nothing special, and mainly seem to keep the beat with lots of cymbal work.

This is the main reason I'll probably never appreciate this band as
much as some - the drummer is terrible.  And its such a shame
considering how well the rest of ythe music is composed.

-Mike
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: INFO ON CAROLINE RECORDS NEEDED ASAP!
Date: 26 Sep 92 03:38:25 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada


Can someone please tell me if Caroline records in NYC is still
a true independent label, or was a huge chunk bought out by a
major? I seem to recall something to this effect, but I can't
recall for sure. I need this info asap for an article I'm working
on (due in 24 hrs! ack!).

If you can help, please e-mail me right away.

Thanks,

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
From: u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: J.Zorn Info
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:09:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Melbourne

In article <1992Oct2.165646.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, ocroci@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
> Re: Information about J. Zorn
> What kind of information would you like?
Couldya send me some info too?
like a list of all the albums he has produced/been associated with?

Do you have similar info for Trevor Horn as well?

Ditto Ditto Ditto Jon Hassel?
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Re: Asia Aqua in Canada (was Re: ELP NEW ALBUM)
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:40:12 GMT

>Asia Aqua has still not been released in Canada, and a check at the HMV
>Superstore on Yonge Street reveals that they still have no date for it.
>However, it is available on Japanese, UK, and US import now.

Aqua is set for release through Enigma/BMG records come the end of
the month. As you may expect, BMG won't be doing anything to support
the album... however, it will be available.

There are rumours of Montreal and Toronto dates towards late
November.

Anil Prasad
From: woodwick9526@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Gear Daddies......Help me.....
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:21:11 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hi, there folks, i have a quick question.
Does anybody know of the Gear Daddies releasing anything other than this:
Let's Go Scare Al, Billy's Live Bait, and their 3 cover 45.?  I heard a rumor
that they released another ep on a different label.  Got any info?
                        tanks a bunch,
                                laters,
                                        Woody
From: mjl@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Maurice J. LeBrun)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: New Kit Watkins "Wet, Dark, And Low"
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:47:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <BvBHnD.7vK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kemp@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (John Kemp) writes:
>I know that a few "Happy The Man" fans read this
>group, so I thought you might like to know that there
>is a new Kit Watkins disk out.  Nice to see that he 
>is sticking with it...
>
>The title is "Wet, Dark, And Low".  East Side Digital,
>530 North 3rd Street, Minneapolis, MN, 55401.  1992
>DDD.  

Yeah, I was real surprised to see it and grabbed it immediately.
Sounds pretty good too; often a bit like the more dynamic stuff off of his
work 'Sunstruck' but also a bit more experimental it seems.

--
Maurice LeBrun    mjl@fusion.ph.utexas.edu
Institute for Fusion Studies, University of Texas at Austin

Faire de la bonne cuisine demande un certain temps.  Si on vous fait
attendre, c'est pour mieux vous servir, et vous plaire.
                                [menu of restaurant Antoine, New Orleans]
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Re: sinead o'connor; I'm confused!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:49:03 GMT

colette@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Colette Marine) writes:

>In <BvM4no.Fvr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:

>>jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

>>>I realize that this is not directly related to what most here would
>>>consider progressive music, but I have to ask whether anyone reading
>>>this has any idea what the heck Sinead O'Connor was trying to say/do
>>>on Saturday Night Live last night. She was singing some song ostensibly
>>>about universal human rights and which ended with statements about
>>>youth having to fight and being confident of the victory of good over
>>>evil -- okay so far so good -- then there is a close-up of hear tearing
>>>up a picture of the Pope when she says (not sings) ``fight the _real
>>>evil_''. I figured, OK, she's Irish and pro-Protestant (i.e. presumably
>>>protestant), but then I noticed she was wearing a _mogen David_. 
>>>Could anyone out there give me some idea of where she was coming from
>>>and what the point of her performance was supposed to be?

>>I saw that too.  I have no idea what happened, but the audience was 
>>completely shocked.  I think something like one person applauded. 

>Here's what I think the deal was. . .  I think it was a direct slam
>on the Catholic church and an indirect slam on organized religions in
>general.  But, what I saw was someone who attacked the supposed hypocrisy
>of the Church by dressing up like a priest, singing like a priest in
>Gregorian Chant-like fashion, yet saying all these things that she
>believed and stood for.  I saw it more as a performance art piece than
>as a musical performance.  And, to an extent, I think it was innovative,
>but beyond that, I think it was basically not very good.

But why the Magen David?

>colette

Ed.
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Clearlight / Clearlight Symphony ??
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:02:54 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct2.233629.464@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mhumes@nyx.cs.du.edu (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>There's also a 4th - VISIONS, from 1978, and then Cyrille Verdeux moved to 
>Santa Cruz, CA in the 80s, at least for a while. He did a solo lp that's
>much in the Clearlight vein called Messnger of Th SUn, on Catero records
>in the late 80s. Ther'e a heavy piano sound and at times all of the pieces
>by verdeux start to sound like the same composition to me. It's nice music. 
>
There's at least one other Verdeaux solo worth checking out - it's called
"Rhapsodie pour le planete bleu" or something like that, I got it a few
years ago and I'm pretty sure it was new then. Real nice stuff, like
"Symphony II" but maybe a little more new-age oriented; There's some
spoken word stuff at the beginning and end, but to the best of my recall
the rest of it is 100% instrumental.

peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: M21520@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: ELP info
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:52:18 GMT

 
Hello, netland:
 
I am a big fan of the music of Emerson, Lake, & Palmer and am interested in
correspinding with other ELP fans.  Is there an ELP mail list or digest
somewhere on the net?
 
I am especially interested in trading transcriptions and performance tips with
other musicians.  I have managed to find *one* compilation book of ELP sheet
music (includes most of Trilogy, Endless Enigma, Take a Pebble, The Sheriff,
Jeremy Bender, Benny the Bouncer), and a few articles from KEYBOARD magazine
which include partial transcriptions (Barrelhouse Shakedown, cadenza from 1st
movement of the Piano Concerto, Tarkus Eruption).  I also have a few of my
own transcriptions (Coming Home, The Barbarian) and several other incomplete
bits of keyboard and guitar parts from various ELP pieces.
 
Please respond by email to: M21520@mwvm.mitre.org
 
Thanks for any interested responses,
                          Brian O'Sullivan
                          The MITRE Corporation
                          Washington, DC
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Meeks Review #3 - Popol Vuh "For You And Me"
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:17:56 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <malcolm.717873703@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>
>
>>Hello again NetWorld,
>
>>Time again for the 3rd installment of "Meeks Review".  This week, I am 
>>reviewing an album by Popol Vuh, entitled "For You And Me".  
>
>>This album was made in 1991, so is actually very recent. 
>
>I hope this is correct - have you heard most or all of the old Popol
>Vuh lps? 
>
>Here's why I ask - in 1991 there was a release titled "Florian Fricke -
>Popol Vuh" on Bell BLR 84705, which claimed on the cover it was recorded
>in 1990 and stated it was previously unreleased material. But a review in 
>Audion in August 1991 claims that the release just renames a bunch of titles
>from HERZ AUS GLAS with no new recording or remixing done. 
>
>This makes me very hesitant to buy the new release...
>
> - malcolm@wrs.com  

Well, according to the back, it was:

"Recorded at G/H - New African Studio/Munich and Sound-Fabrik (Munich)
January-April 1991.  

So, I would guess it is a new recording.  I can't say I have heard any of
Popol Vuh's other stuff (this being my first, but not last, exposure), but
if you like their stuff, I would suggest getting it...

Dave


-- 
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