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From: Rave Crusader <raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us>
Subject: Re: roland FAQ part.1
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:20:32 GMT

Wow, you sure did your homework on that FAQ!
BTW: I was trying to find out what happened to the 404. I have run across
a former Roland employee on MIDIner (Fidonet) and they assured me that
there WAS a 404. It was supposed to have been a polyphonic synth but there
is some debate as to whether it was a limted edition item or if it was
ever put into production. I am still researching this and I will let you
know if anytthing else pops up. BTW: I ran across someone who SWORE that
they saw a 404 in a pawn shop in Idaho.. Somehow I think this may have
been an Elvis sighting. :)
		          Raver909
In search of the rare 303 and the URF (Unidentified Roland 404).


"Watcha gonna do when the bass hits you???" -Adrenaline 92 Toronto, Ontario.
From: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: REVIEW FOR DAS BOOT PLEAS
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:29:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski) 

-> From: sshah@watnxt08.ucr.edu (steve j shah)
-> Hey there folks,
->
-> I'm new to alt.rave, but I've been into
-> techno for about a year now. I just saw out by
-> my local store a CD called DAS BOOT. I "think"
-> that it is about a year old, so pardon me if
-> I'm asking about "old" stuff. Anyways, anyone
-> got any info on this. Good? Bad? Bass? BPM?
-> Worth it in general?

It is old but worth having...its full of sonar/submarine samples, I am
surprised it wasnt banned in Germany where it originated because of
their ban on everything that relates to Nazis etc...I know once they
were even trying to ban a submarine gamed called DAS BOOT, anyways while
in Europe I picked up a pirate copy of DAS BOOT tape [for a $1!] later
when I was back in the US I bought the CD and found that it was
different than the Euro version..for one the song I WANNA BE A KENNEDY
has been remixed in the US version to say: I WANNA BE IN TENNESSEE.
Which I thought was pretty stupid! so big deal, I guess they didnt want
to offend people by mentioning Kennedy...blah, Mblah, Jakeblah!
From: cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk (Richard W Rackham)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: REVIEW FOR DAS BOOT PLEAS
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:29:48 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Magnus Olsson (magnus@thep.lu.se) wrote:

: On a tangent, does anyone know the relation between this CD and the
: film/TV series of the same name (or at least it was called "Das Boot"
: in German. I don't know the English title, but it's a German film
: about a submarine during WWII)? 

It is actually a TV series of 6 * 2 hour episodes, made by the Bavarian Film
Studios outside Munich.  Columbia in the US took these episodes and edited it
down into a two hour film.  The film is called 'The Boat', which is pretty
silly as the translation of 'Das Boot' is 'The Submarine'.  I have never seen
the film, so I do not know whether it was subtitled or dubbed (the TV series
was subtitled when showed in the UK a few years back), but I have seen a video
for it on RCA/Columbia - it came out in the mid '80s

Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: vidarh@cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: DAS BOOT
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:53:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.114352.5640@pollux.lu.se>, magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson) writes:
|> In article <858.1191.uupcb@satalink.com> jakub.ludwinski@satalink.com (Jakub Ludwinski)  writes:
|> >It is old but worth having...its full of sonar/submarine samples, I am
|> >surprised it wasnt banned in Germany where it originated because of
|> >their ban on everything that relates to Nazis etc...
|> 
|> On a tangent, does anyone know the relation between this CD and the
|> film/TV series of the same name (or at least it was called "Das Boot"
|> in German. I don't know the English title, but it's a German film
|> about a submarine during WWII)? 
|> 

Well, the relation is pretty obvious: the main theme is the theme from the
film/TV-series, and the video is cuts from the film.

Apart from a few OK ideas, I think it sucks. It's typical sell-out
ultra-commercial techno. Evidence no 1: the vocoder/speak'n'spell line ("One To
Three Techno"). Ultra silly stuff that the ignorant masses falls for.

IMHO, of course.

Vidar
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: thecure@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious)
Subject: Re: Raving in Melbourne?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:36:40 GMT

u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>I am visiting Melbourne, and am looking for suitable venues at which
>to enjoy the hardest nastiest fastest techno. Are there any decent
>parties coming up? Are there any clubs I should particularly check
>out? (e.g. Lounge on a Wednesday??)

Lounge on Wednesday (Swanston Street, City)
Dream on Thursday (229 Queensberry, Carlton)
Slip-n-Slide (?) perhaps on Friday, along swanston street somewhere.
Saturday, Victoria Docks, Shed 9, Port Melbourne.
Sunday, Hellfire, (229 Queensbeery, Carlton)

(102.7FM, Sunday, 11am for more info.)
--
But all those sleepless night in bed
I wonder if you care and cannot bear the proof
It hurts too much to face the truth

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: s39201e@saha.hut.fi (Jouko Huhtala)
Subject: Tracker Progs for SBPro (was Amiga Techno)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:08:38 GMT

Somebody wrote here about 8-track tracker prog. which supports SBPro's
44.1 KHz samplingrate. What was that program and where can I get it ?
Is it PD or SW ??


Thanks in advance !

T: Jokke   E-mail jhuhtala@vipunen.hut.fi

 ' When things run smooth, it's already more than enough. '
							- M.L.Gore
From: sshah@watnxt08.ucr.edu (steve j shah)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: review for DAS BOOT please
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:03:17 GMT

Hey there folks,

	I'm new to alt.rave, but I've been into
techno for about a year now. I just saw out by
my local store a CD called DAS BOOT. I "think"
that it is about a year old, so pardon me if
I'm asking about "old" stuff. Anyways, anyone
got any info on this. Good? Bad? Bass? BPM?
Worth it in general?


			Thanx peoples
				sshah@watsev.ucr.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Subject: Rave list for Montreal Canada
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:42:19 GMT

This is to inform you of a low volume moderated email list covering
the techno/rave scene in Montreal and suburbia.

If you are interested, please use the reply function of your newsreader
or simply email me, asking to get on the R.U.N. list. Note: this list is
for people who live in Montreal or suburbia, or are from
close cities like Burlington, Plattsburgh, Ottawa/Hull, Quebec city, and
come occasionnaly to Montreal.

The list name is R.U.N., or Raving Up North.

Ciao,
--
Francois Dion
    '  _   _   _ 
 CISM (_) (_)  _) FM       Montreal , Canada       Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA
      (_)  / . _)             10000 Watts          Telephone no: (514) 343-7511
_______________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: Opinions on +8 stuff
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI  U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:40:08 GMT

kowalski@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Kowalski) writes:
 
>I'm curious what the net thinks about +8 records like CyberSonik,
>Circuit breaker Etc.
 
This part of the net likes them alot.
 
>Also, two other records sortof by +8 - Jetstream and
>Dance Fever both produced by (and mixed) by the +8 folks Richard andc
>John.  So, has anyone heard this stuff?
 
I haven't heard the records in question so I won't comment.
 
--Eric
 
eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu  "I'm the Inman    And I'm keen
Detroit, Michigan  USA     I've a mind    Like a machine"
Xref: sparky alt.rave:6668 alt.rap:7173 comp.music:6355 rec.music.synth:20315
From: eric@nit.pactel.com (Eric Pederson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.rap,comp.music,rec.music.synth
Subject: Drum machines for sale
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:56:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: nit.C1FMBp.JzE
Organization: Pac*Tel Corporation

Arrghhh!  I just did my taxes and I owe the IRS.  A lot.
The following items are for sale:

TR-909          $425
Popular house music drum machine with a easy-to-use interface

TR-808		$575
Popular hip-hop drum machine with a monster bass drum sound

TR-505		$75
Pint sized drum machine with regular and latin sounds

I would prefer to sell these to people in the Bay Area, but
if you want it shipped, add in shipping and COD costs.
-- 
Eric Pederson                                       Pac*Tel Corporation
eric@nit.pactel.com                                        510-210-8890
From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: I told you so ....
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:49:57 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


	There was some doubt that anyone agrees with anything I post up here ,
well here is someone who does , and YES , he did give me permission to post this
:-)

The Matt <email M.Hendley@cs.ucl.ac.uk> writes :
|>
|> Just been reading alt.rave and I'd like to say I agree with your comments ie.
|>Clubbing is now better than 'raving' especially in London with a massive
|>selection of clubs (probably similar in Glasgow).
|>Sorry this is not in alt.rave , but I have no facility for posting there and I
|>just want to say that your comment about many people agreeing with you but
|>keeping silent (or forced to like me) is true .
|>
|>The Matt
|>

--
	So tell me all those wisecracks who posted before .... where are all
these people in the UK who disagree with my comments on the rave scene ??

Looks like I win .... :-) 

Last 'Flame' post of '93 !

Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
(Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: graham_t@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Subject: Moby + Prodigy + ?
Reply-To: graham_t@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:40:17 GMT


Does anyone know the full list of dates for Northeast U.S. for this tour ??

....or where I could find out ??

I'd be very grateful ....


Graham. 
Xref: sparky alt.rave:6714 alt.rap:7201 comp.music:6399 rec.music.synth:20373
From: poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Todd W Poepping)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.rap,comp.music,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Drum machines for sale
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:39:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.9.13


Looking for a Roland TR 303 (preferably with MIDI retrofit)
Also a Roland TR 909.

Contact:  Patrick  at 414.224.5343

(to the original poster of message:  i will be contacting you
soon!)


Also, Anyone producing experimental HARD edged techno music
wishing to be pressed to vinyl,  send cassette tape
(to be returned) for consideration of being put on first
release by "12 GIGABOLT RECORDINGS".


Please, NO COMMERCIAL DRIBBLE!!

Contact: Patrick at  414.224.5343
	 or e-mail      poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu
From: mmt2@csthor.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Marcos Manuel Tembras)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Raves...
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:03:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Wales at Aberystwyth

Anyone know about the rave scene in Wales?

If so tell me.......................
-- 
From Marcos Tembras (Pump up that BPM)

Mail adress : mmt2@uk.ac.aber
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: reagan@next06pg2.wam.umd.edu (read my .plan it's FREE)
Subject: paganism and rave
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:59:20 GMT

can somebody tell me the relationship between paganism, new agism and  
rave/techno music? seems to me some techno groups try very hard to label  
themselves "pagan" and all that. is this just a recent thing or has it  
been there ever since techno was invented?
 
i'm a christian, i like techno music, but i'd like to be a little more  
cautious on this. 

please, no christian bashing. i just wanna know what's behind all this,  
and at this point, i have made no value judgement. 

thanks!

-matt
From: f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: reese project- colour of love
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:35:23 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In <sfL_L6K00awNM2VGcR@andrew.cmu.edu> ke0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenny Eng) writes:

->has anyone heard the reese project's album, i think it is called colour
->of love. ? how is it, what kind of genre would it fit  into?
->kenny


Well, only having heard three tracks from the album I may not be the right
person to comment on this, but what the heck! If I was forced at gunpoint
by 20,000 hardcore members to classify it, I would say it was detroit/chicago
style house with more than a touch of soul. Please note that some people
would definitely disagree especially with it's 12" remixes. I mean, listen
to the 'I Believe' (Laurent Garnier Frenchman on Stoke-on-trent ambient
chill thrill baseroom mix!) and compare it to the Mike Wilson's remixes.
A world apart, eh?

Now has anyone any news on the remix album of 'Colour of Love'?


keep on keeping on,
sZm




-- 
sZm
f1sami@kielo.uta.fi
From the School of Neuro Acoustic Programming
"It's not where you're from. It's where you're at."

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tedwards@wam.umd.edu (technopagan priest)
Subject: Re: paganism and rave
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:59:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.195920.8437@wam.umd.edu> reagan@next06pg2.wam.umd.edu (read my .plan it's FREE) writes:
>can somebody tell me the relationship between paganism, new agism and  
>rave/techno music? seems to me some techno groups try very hard to label  
>themselves "pagan" and all that. is this just a recent thing or has it  
>been there ever since techno was invented?

I was unaware many techno groups labeled themselves as "pagan."  I know
many of them are big into vegetarianism and such, but I wasn't really
aware of much modern-Wicca movement style techno groups.  Most
real witches I know can't stand techno, and go for the Indigo Girls
style acoustic guitar kind of music, maybe reaching out to Dead Can 
Dance.

Now, you can argue that there certainly are now and have been in
the past certain non-christian religions which use fast beats
in religious rites (the one in particular that comes to mind
is a medieval fertility dance done at the solstice), and that
techno might perhaps wake up that part of our human consciousness
which has been put away in the pretty slow music of recent western
tradition, and that we are feeling the vibe of a history
locked deep inside us.  

>i'm a christian, i like techno music, but i'd like to be a little more  
>cautious on this. 

Many of my friends consider Raves a pretty spiritual experience...
so I 'spose it's either the work of God or of the Devil..

or Quetzacoatl or Shiva or Morrigan or Pele or Goddess or whatever ;)

---
Ack, this suddenly came to my brain!

"God is the/God is the/God is the E!" - Born again Moby

"Jesus has just been crucified before a live studio audience..."

"Open your soul, kneel in the church, pray to god and go!"
   (Messiah--Temple of Dreams hardcore mix take off)

"Did I dream...you turned to Jesus?"
----
"Frankie Bones is dead!"
From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Altern8 vs Evelyn King??
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:31:12 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England


Now i gotta say, that i am not sure if it was evelyn king, but it was definately
someone of that genre....

Has anyone seen this 10" record???
Just want some sort of review before i waste my money.

My friends

U4ia 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk (John Hartnup)
Subject: Re: Sprockets (Was Re: Multiplatform Techno)
Reply-To: hartnupj@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:24:19 GMT

This thread has sort of gone all confusing. May I stick in my two pennorth here and say
that none of my favourite tracks use sampling alone.
Why I like techno is the lovely subtly changing analogue synth basses (and strings!).
I've heard reasonable imitations on a sampler, but they never reach that georgous
level which makes my little heart glow.

Sorry, I'm getting a little enthusiastic.


________________________________________________________________
|And if you're so very entertaining, |  JOhn.                  |
|Why are you on your own tonight ?   | hartnupj@uk.ac.aston.cs |
|____________________________________|_________________________|


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: djw@wang.com (David Weinstein)
Subject: EBN Plays Axis in Boston 1/28
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:20:19 GMT
Keywords: ebn rave

EBN, a techno rave band will be playing Axis in Boston on Thurs
Jan 28. Call Axis for details.
From: labccc@emory.edu (Chris Chung)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Atlanta raves???? When? WHere?
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:05:28 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


Does anyone know of any Rave in Atlanta?


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: paganism and rave
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:09:10 GMT

reagan@next06pg2.wam.umd.edu (read my .plan it's FREE) writes:

>can somebody tell me the relationship between paganism, new agism and  
>rave/techno music? seems to me some techno groups try very hard to label  
>themselves "pagan" and all that. is this just a recent thing or has it  
>been there ever since techno was invented?

Examples?  Or are you just labeling Psychick TV as the entire genre?  I had a
hard time thinking of any musician who has tried to label themselves as
"pagan".
-- 
I will not fight about digital vs analog.  I will not fight about digital vs a

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: kowalski@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Kowalski)
Subject: Opinions on +8 stuff
Keywords: +8 hardcore Definitiver[D Records Jetstream
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:35:50 GMT

I'm curious what the net thinks about +8 records like CyberSonik,
Circuit breaker Etc. Also, two other records sortof by +8 - Jetstream and
Dance Fever both produced by (and mixed) by the +8 folks Richard andc
John.  So, has anyone heard this stuff? 

PK
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
From: raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Rave Crusader)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:53:16 GMT
Organization: Telerama
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Capt. Sarcastic (kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Rave Crusader) writes:

: >To reproduce it exactly as you hear it thats why. I don't sample at 44.1
: >Khz all the time, I use the Nyquist frequency as a guide line. If you
: >don't know what that is its double the highest frequency you are sampling,
: >for instance if you were sampling an opern hi-hat or a crash cymbal that
: >had a frequency of 18-22 Khz you ou would want to sample it somewhere
: >between 36-44 Khz. Understand? I wouldn't sample an 808 Kick at 44.1 since
: >there is no reason to. Its not that high in frequency to warrant such.  

: Actually, it's "Nyquist's Theorm."
Thank you oh great dispenser of knowlege.

: >I'm talking about underground zines like Under One Sky and Global Techno
: >Power. The reason that everyone wants a TB303 is because of the widespread
: >publicity of what they are and they amount of killer techno used making
: >them. If I sayed my analog synth with MIDI emulated a 303 rather well then
: >the price of it would go up as well and they
: >(because they aren't produced anymore) would also
: >become hard to find.

: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: "I wanna be just like everyone else.  Same equipment, or the music is shit."
No more like, "I want a 303 because I love that killer sound and I want it!!"

: Later
Much later my brotha.
: --
: Capt. Sarcastic      |The U.S. economy is dominated by monopolies.  In order to
: (Kurt S. Koller)     |gain higher profits they exploit the U.S. workers as well
: kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu|as the population of the countries dependent on the U.S.A.
-- 
"Watcha gonna do when the bass hits you???" -Adrenaline 92 Toronto, Ontario.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Hostetler)
Subject: Need SHAMEN CD5 Title...
Keywords: SHAMEN
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: alt.rave
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:03:24 GMT

I saw a Shamen CD5 at Gramaphone over break that had multiple mixes of
LSI and Ebeneezer Goode.  It was $10 and I thought about buying
it...but...  Anyway, if someone could email me the title of the CD5, I
can order it from EAR.  Thanks ahead of time!

PS, does anyone have the Boss Drum 2CD5?  Any good?




-- 
-brian

bhostetl@ucs.indiana.edu          |      "Even if the brain is removed,
bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu   |     the insekt continues to live..."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: vidarh@cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Re: 808 State dates
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:13:37 GMT

Kevin A. Price writes:
|> Any release dates for the new 808 State album yet?

Yes: It's out!!! (At least here in Norway.)

I was a bit disappointed, some of the tracks are great, some are OK, but for
the first time with 808 State, there are a few tracks on the album I dislike. 
But if you skip 2 or 3 tracks, it's an OK album...

Bye,
Vidar

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)
Subject: Re: AMIGA TECHNO
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:09:52 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-21-93 19:05
Quoted From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg "in the area !")
> 
>         If it came down to it , the money spent on an S1000 could keep me in
> STUSSY for year ...
> 

Not here it wouldn't ... Stussy (pronounced 'stoosee' for anybody not 
familiar with the product) has to be one of the most expensive lines 
of clothing available in Toronto.  Maybe that's because there's only 
one _registered_ dealer in the city (I am told), so he can basically 
charge what he wants.
  Speaking of rave fashion ... here area some nice pointers:

Crayz-E Hats/Touques
Face Masks (for Vicks, or whatever)
Ski Goggles 
Stripes of all kinds
Strange printed shirts (Ambient Ware, etc.)
Sunglasses 
3D Glasses
Whistles (yeah!)
Laminated flyers around your neck
Glow-sticks (hell, bring flares)
Flourescent paints/bright clothing

...and remember: be comfortably baggy! be ambient!


Sponsored by the Organization for Unified Raves Everywhere (OUR-E).


("Is he serious?" :)

> 
> Answers on a postcard to ...
> -- 
> That tricky trickster,
> Stephen Quigg
> License to mail to internet dept.
> squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
> British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
> (Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )
>

greg.ipp@rose.com / rev@cibbs.uucp
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