From: kien@xuan.sps.mot.com (Kien Banh)
Subject: Re: Tinh` Ye^u Muo^n Thuo+?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:12:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.033413.13674@ncar.ucar.edu> chau@hao.hao.ucar.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.184833.28403@menudo.uh.edu> FedUp@lost.land writes:
>>In article <92248.084415PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET> cha'n <PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep3.212225.21304@menudo.uh.edu>, FedUp@lost.land writes:
>>>>
>>>>In article <1992Sep3.193422.8483@bnr.ca> pham@bnr.ca (An Pham) writes:
>>>>>In article <1992Aug30.145207.2615@ncar.ucar.edu>, chau@hao.ucar.edu (National
>>>>Center for Atmospheric Research) writes:
>>>>>|> ""  -Dan` o^ng cac' anh luc' nao` cung~ ca^n` phai? ye^u nhu+ng~ ddan`
>>>>>|>     ba` chung' to^i, ngay ca? khi mo^t. ngu+o+i` ddan` ba` 0 con`
>>>>>|>     ye^u ddan` o^ng cac' anh nu+a? ""
>>>>>|>
>>>>>|> Trich' trong lua^t. thu+' 1 cua? Danh Ngo^n Tu+. -Die^n?
>>>>>|>
>>>>>|> LTBR
>>>>>
>>>>>   Ta.i vi` dda`n o^ng kho^ng muo^'n la`m dda`n ba` gia^.n, ma(.c da^`u
>>>>>   ho. bie^'t ngu+o+`i dda`n ba` ddo' kho^ng co`n ye^u ho. nu+~a.
>>>>>
>>>>>   This is just my personal opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>>   An Pham
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If all guys think that way, it would be too good to be true!
>>>>
>>>>_a-not-presumptous-person_
>>>
>>>     It sure is! Men have feelings too, and any man who can claim he is
>>>above jealousy and other emotional attachments would certainly tell you
>>>a lie.
>>>
>>
>>Yes, but what would you think if the guy, after realizing that the
>>woman is not in love with him, turned around and tried to degrade
>>that woman?  (Note:  I am using "realizing," NOT "finding out.")
>>
>>_Fed-Up-With-Men_
>>
>>
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>
>In ANY situation, a man is a man and should always be respected as a man.
>If he degrates his woman, or any for that matter, then he also degrates
>himself by lowering his moral values as a gentleman.
>
>LTBR

I used to have a classmate named "Phu'c". It is a good name in Vietnamese
but ... It's always an embarrassing moment on the first day of school when
the professor tried to pronounce his name. Case in study: on the surface,
the same expression could bear different and unrelated meanings in dissimilar
cultures. The disparity is even higher IMHO between male and female as we
(M/F) as a whole also try to depict the meanings of gestures. I do believe
that male and female are very enthusiastic to gain mutual understandings and
responsive to our mutual needs. But, we first have to learn each other's
language. Historically, male has been accused for not listening to what
female has said. I believe that the majority of male do listen but fail
to understand and the evidences are plenty on this small world of SCV.
To contribute to the net, especially our male readers, I have compiled
a list of "female said" and translated them into "male language". This
effort is in it's primitive stage. Errors are abounded of course.
Any expert in this field please educates the novice like myself and
enhances the collections:

	when female said			it means(in male language)
_____________________________________	____________________________________
I can not go out with you on a date.	I am not interested in you.

I can not go out with you on a date	I would like very much to go out with
because I have to study for the final.	you but I don't know you long enough.
					Keep calling me and I'll go out with you.

I heard that "Robinhood" is a good	I want to go out on a date with you.
movie.

I heard that "Terminator II" is		(null)
worth seeing.

I like you a lot.			I don't love you.

I hate you.				I love you.

Did you say you love me?		You are lying.

Isn't she pretty?			My eyes are prettier would you say?

My parents would like to meet you.	Would you marry me?

Did you say you want to meet my		I believe that you do love me.
parents?

It's over between us.			Lately, you have not called me.
					I am very unhappy.

You don't talk to me.			Shut up, just listen to what I have to say.

Can we talk?				You are in big trouble.

Can we be friends?			It's over between us.

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*From the song: Are You Lonesome Tonight by Elvis:				  *
*	Honey, you are lying when you said you love me...			  *
*	But I'd rather go on to hear your lies than				  *
*	go on living without you.						  *
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*Also from the song: Kie^'p Ddam Me^:						  *
*	To^i xin ngu+o+`i cu+' gian do^'i Khi to^i ho?i ngu+o+`i co' ye^u to^i... *
*	To^i xin ngu+o+`i cu+' gian do^'i nhu+ng xin ngu+o+`i ddu+`ng lia` xa to^i*
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