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From: hepfox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Peyton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Zines
Summary: Corrections about The New Affurmative Action!
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:37:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug19.151130.6131@iscsvax.uni.edu> peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF) writes:
>Greywolf's Terribly Incomplete Listing of Fanzines
>-----
> ... stuff deleted ...-----
>The New Affurmative Action, P.O. Box 10144, Austin, TX  78766-1144
>Editor: Dave Peyton
>Email: hepfox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>Tel: +1 512 346-8293
>Price: $5.00 ?

Price will vary depending on number of contributors and size of
contributions.  Issue 1 will *probably* be $4.50.

>Distribution: Supposedly Bi-Monthly
>Rating: PG
>Content: full-sized, art/graphic-story oriented.  Future issues are supposed to
>   be exclusively graphic-format stories, rather than just spot illos and text
>   stories.  APA'zine.
>Contributors: Dave Peyton, Karena Kliefoth, Jeremy Kidd, Bill Fitts, Jeffrey
>   Young, Jordan Greywolf

These are contributors for the "old" Affurmative Action!  The lineup for
Issue 1 of The New AA! includes G. Raymond Eddy and Charles Wagner, in
addition to yours truly.

>Notes: Comics only, eh?  Sounds like poor Peyton is shooting himself in the
>   foot...

  So as to clear up any potential confusion:  The New AA! *WILL* come
out bi-monthly, even if it has nothing other than my anchor story in it.
Period.  Naturally, I'd rather that not be the case -- I'm aiming this
'zine at readers who prefer not to spend so much money on pinups.

>-----
>Attempts to help me "fill in the blanks" here (or correct blatant errors) would
>be greatly appreciated.
>

There you are.  By the way, I noticed you and Watts trying to bash my
choice of title in another article.  To you, and all members of the
Coalition Against Fur In Titles, I say:  kiss my tail.  :) :)

>-- 
>-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
>                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
>                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
>                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613


The-one-who-will-one-day-get-a-real-job-and-be-able-to-go-to-
every-con-and-ultimately-become-more-famous-than-Sim,

					^Dave^
					(Dave Peyton)
					hepfox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

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From: porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Barr Wars and other pubs? - and net.zaps ?
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:58:44 GMT
Organization: Raccoon-Silkies have more fun !

In article <920819.130014.CDT.MHIGH@vm1.tucc.trinity.edu>, MHIGH@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU ("net.spy!") writes:

> The three offspring of the Barr Wars were the WARS APA, edited by Terrie
>   Smith (I haven't seen a copy but I'm told it's still around); CRUSADE by
>   Scudder Kidwell and Co. (one-shot based on a single Barr pic); and
>   the DALLAS BRAWL UPDATE, edited by Mel. White.  The Dallas Brawl is still
>   going on VERY strong, with monthly (THICK) issues.

 Which of these are true APAs ? Or more to the point, which can yer average
furry send off for without being a contributor/member ?

 Hm. Wonder if there could be a net.equivalent ..? After all, that'd save all
the turnaround time involved in a paper publication - just upload the response
as and when ready. Hehe.. wonder how much space tezuka's got free ?

> At one time Chris Dunn, editor of the original Barr Wars, was on the 'net,
>   but I haven't seen him here in about a year.

 Pity.. the more people directly involved in furry publications in the front
line on the net, the better. Could just be the bane of all news readers - time
- I suppose.

> If you can wait a little bit, I plan to revive my Furry General Store
>   messages, which pretty much fulfills all of the above.  But first, I
>   need to find the disk I hid them on.  :-)

 *chuckle*  I know the feeling.. a hard drive would /help/, but I can remember
how easily such beasts get clogged up with digital minutiae that take forever
to manually purge.. actually /doing/ that can be quite a voyage of rediscovery
though. ("Did I /really/ save /that/ article ?", "Whose phone number *is* that
anyway ?")

-- Porsupah

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From: MHIGH@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU ("net.spy!")
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Fanzine list corrections
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:11:57 GMT
Organization: WWWA: Bureau of Technological Regulation (BTR)

Are you sure you want to include FURRLOUGH in your list of fanzines,
  Jordan?  After all, it *is* a comic book (distinct difference there).
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<Furrlough, c/o Happy Jackal Graphics, 1200 Patricia #1208, San Antonio, TX
<   78213
<Editors: Brian Sutton and Shon Howell
<Price: ?
<Distribution: ?
<Rating: PG-13
<Content:full-sized, graphic stories and art (at least from what I saw in issue
<   #1) centering around mili-furry and action-adventure themes.  I hear they
<   actually *pay* for submissions.  =)  I have a text file of the submission
<   guidelines which I can email upon request.
<Contributors: Chris Grant, Ben Dunn, Brian Sutton, Shon Howell, Jim Groat
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Change that to:
FURRLOUGH, 11726 West Ave. Apt #G-1, San Antonio, TX 78216.
Published by:  Antarctic Press
Edited by:  Shon Howell and Brian Sutton
Price:  $2.50 per issue cover price (plus 0.75 postage), 4 issues to date.
Distribution:  Now bimonthly, available in most comics shops.
Rating:  PG13
Content:  comic-sized, 32 pages B&W with a color cover (first issue was 56
  pages), anthology series with a military or high-adventure theme.
Submissions:  We are gladly accepting submissions for FURRLOUGH and its
  sister title, WILD LIFE TALES.  For more details, write the address above
  (preferably) or email bn510@cleveland.freenet.edu.  Pay rate is based on
  20% of gross sales divided between the contributors based on the # of pages
  they did (currently around $8 per page).
Contributors:  Ted Sheppard, Riley, Brian Sutton, Joe Rosales, Shon Howell,
  Chris Grant, Jerry Collins, Tom Verre, Jim Groat, Phil Morrissey, and more.
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: dark@microsoft.com (Dar Korra'ti)
Subject: Re: Hey, what happened to REFRACTIONS?
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:32:59 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Aug16.232132.10370@u.washington.edu> fizzit@milton.u.washington.edu (Fred Sloniker) writes:
>...the guy in charge said something along the lines of getting it out in July
>if he had to cut the masters with his teeth.
     Ifs hard to talk witfout any teef leff.
     Hi, this is me... I posted something to the net about this, but it was
apparently lost when my feed site vanished from the net and didn't get out.
     Basically, we're late. There's lots of reasons why, not the least of
which being that Diamond's order kept not arriving - I was waiting for them.
After they were a week late I started trying to find out what was going on.
Three and a half weeks later, I finally get a straight answer - they have no
idea whatsoever.
     So, I'm going without them. The DAT is currently in Florida, being made
into a flexidisk master by Eva-Tone corporation. Then they'll send those back
to me and I'll hand them to our paper press. By that time, I should have
the masters done (hope hope hope hope) if not before. I want to beat Worldcon,
basically. (I'd _like_ to have them _at_ Worldcon, but that's not as likely as
I'd like it to be. Still, I'm trying.)
     Design format is done, all the data is in the computers (well, except
this one tiny article I keep not doing because I come up with other things
to do :-) ), and it's just a matter of grinding it all out.
     Sigh. Dammit, I had _really_ wanted to get this out ON SCHEDULE. But it
looks like it'll be almost exactly a month late.

People in general:
	If you've sent me mail at my usual address, polari!lorbit!phoenix@uunet,
send it again. lorbit is still up, but polari has vanished. I'm trying to find
out what's going on. Currently, lorbit's only connection to the net is seanews,
and that isn't working very well. (I'm working on it.) So for the time being
at least, use dark@microsoft.com.
                                          What do you mean, you "lost" it?
                                                       - R'ykandar.

--
R'ykandar Korra'ti | LOW ORBIT PUBLICATIONS
dark@microsoft.com | <lorbit address in flux, will reappear later>
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Hey, what happened to REFRACTIONS?
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:34:21 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug16.232132.10370@u.washington.edu>, fizzit@milton.u.washington.edu (Fred Sloniker) writes:
> ...the guy in charge said something along the lines of getting it out in July

Yeah -- I wanna know, too!  Come to think of it, there are a ton of *other*
zines I'm wondering what's the delay with, but what else is new?
-- 
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Zines
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:21:12 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <78227@ut-emx.uucp>, hepfox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Peyton) writes:
> In article <1992Aug19.151130.6131@iscsvax.uni.edu> peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF) writes:
>>Greywolf's Terribly Incomplete Listing of Fanzines
>>-----
>> ... stuff deleted ...-----
>>The New Affurmative Action, P.O. Box 10144, Austin, TX  78766-1144
{...}
> Coalition Against Fur In Titles, I say:  kiss my tail.  :) :)

Thanks for the corrections, but I believe I will respectfully decline the offer
to smooch your posterior region.
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Zoomorphica Stories again
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:04:16 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

As a clarification to my earlier posting referring to my opinions on
Zoomorphica, my blanket statement about Watts Martin needing better writers was
not entirely fair -- Fred Patten's non-fiction stuff (a review of "The
Illustrated Encyclopedia of Cartoon Animals" and "Dozens of Dragons") looked
fine, and Matt Posner's story was ... well, *WEIRD*, but interesting in its own
way, particularly after I took the time to go back over it after my initial
skim through the pages.  I'd best be careful lest I insult too many people
needlessly...
-- 
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Subject: Re: LFIH ain't dead. Period.
Originator: alberti@epx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:53:50 GMT

In <1992Aug5.082851.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> ia92@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

>Sorry to spoil your party, Tim, but your news is several weeks old.
>LFIH ain't dead.  Hopefully I'll have details in two weeks.

So, where are those 'details'?  I could use a good laugh right about
now...  :)

-- 
		Reply to:  avatar@pnet51.orb.mn.org
 "Bowl a strike, not a spare; Revolution everywhere!"  -RABL credo
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Lettering
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:58:02 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I'm nearing completion of a 20-page project for the Tai-Pan Project, and ended
up leaving the lettering undone until last.  =P  I've spent so much time trying
to learn how to draw stuff that I never really paid much attention to how to do
lettering and placing all those balloons in an eye-pleasing way ... Are there
any cartoonists out there who might have any tips on lettering or maybe know of
any furry artists (or non-furry, for that matter) that I could possibly check
with, or maybe some references?  (Can't think of any books I've seen on the
subject... =P )
-- 
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
From: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: GraphXpress Stuff
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: ray.rooney@satalink.com (Ray Rooney)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

Sorry if this is late. (My InterNet connection has been down for a
week.)

This won't be news to those who made it to SDCC, but GraphXpress has
brought out a new issue of Red Shetland (#6) AND a COLOR t-shirt!

Both may be ordered from publisher Jim Groat, who needs support to keep
things going. This is a rough time for independent comics, especially
furry titles.

Send $2.50 + $1.00 post for the comic and ask about the shirt (be aware
that it's, uh, "rude".)

Write:                  GraphXpress
                        P.O.Box 32292
                        Tucson, AZ 85751

 * SLMR 2.1a * No, Happy Smurf, that's not a bird - it's a missile!
From: porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Oops!  (Correction to "Zines" posting)
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:05:45 GMT
Organization: Raccoon-Silkies have more fun !

In article <1992Aug20.195613.6155@iscsvax.uni.edu>, peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF) writes:
> In article <199208201628.AA11517@intercon.com>, mauser@INTERCON.COM (Richard Chandler) writes:
>> Which is strange, because it USED to be Box 1200.
>> And they didn't make a big deal about the box changing.
>>  
> Uh oh.  Thing it could be a typo?

 Nope.. the *correct* code *is* 1299; it has changed from 1200. This will not,
however, greatly affect life as we know it. :)

-- Porsupah

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From: fizzit@milton.u.washington.edu (Fred Sloniker)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Hey, what happened to REFRACTIONS?
Summary: As I recall...
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:21:32 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

...the guy in charge said something along the lines of getting it out in July
if he had to cut the masters with his teeth.  I think I've got a nailfile
lying around, if dull incisors are to blame for me not having seen mine yet...
(insert liberal (;3 )

				---Fred M. Sloniker (L. Lazuli)
From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: YARF! (yip! yowl! yahooo! etc!)
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:04:33 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <71461@apple.Apple.COM>, krisk@Apple.COM (Kris Kreutzman) writes:
{entry deleted}
Much obliged -- I'll update my file.  =)
I may even change the format -- I like this one better.

> announce the change in address in Flaming Hairballs, the YARF! editorial column.
> You all READ Flaming Hairballs, don't you?

Which issue was it announced in?  If it was in #20, I missed it, because I'm
such a cheapskate that I only get the ones that come to me for free (i.e.
contributors' copies).  And, to be honest, Flaming Hairballs is probably not
the first thing for me to read...
> 
>   The YARF! Is Dead Affair - "We're not dead, yet!"  Some people are under the
> impression that YARF! is dead.  Not so.  

Not with Greywolf on the cover, anyway!  =)
(Hee!)

>   Greywolf,
> The credit for the Quanta Biotechnics was left off by request of the artist so
> it would look more like a real advertisement.  And I'm not telling who did it.

Awwwwwww... =(

> Anyway I thought that curiosity was for cats (and foxes)...
> Oh, and sorry to hear about your name change.  We'll try to correct it for the
> reprints.

Much obliged.  =)

-- 
-Jordan            ..      PEACOCK5293@iscsvax.uni.edu
                  .OO.     Jordan Peacock (Jordan Greywolf)
                  O/\O     (New Address):  1610 Parker
                   --                      Cedar Falls, IA  50613
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry,alt.sex.stories
From: yorick@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us (Steven E. Arcow)
Subject: Pendor Glossary?
Reply-To: yorick@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
Organization: Plex-1, Michigan's Public Access Usenet Gateway  (Ann Arbor).
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 07:23:52 GMT

Has anyone out there compiled a glossary of the Pendorian terms and race
names that appear in Elf Sternberg's Journal Entries?  I've read about a
dozen of them so far (including _Travellogue_), yet I still have no clear
conception of what a Tindal looks like, of what "Walking the Hall" really
means, etc..
 
Heck, it even took me a while to figure out from context that "tens" is
short for "tentacles", and I'm usually pretty quick about these things.  :-)
 
(Of course, eventually I'll just have to read them all...  :-)
-- 
==============================================
Steve Arlow
Primary:     yorick@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
Alternates:  sea@ais.org
From: MHIGH@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU ("net.spy!")
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: WILDLIFE APAzine no. 1
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:22:59 GMT
Organization: WWWA: Bureau of Technological Regulation (BTR)

Despite large dents made in the printing run by sales at DFF and SDCC,
  WILDLIFE APAzine #1 is still for sale.

WILDLIFE APAzine is a combination APA/fanzine, much like GALLERY is.
  Issue 1 is 64 pages long on 8 1/2" x 11" paper with a heavy cardstock
  cover, and is intended for mature readers.  Contributors include:
  Kurt Wilcken, Ted Sheppard, Shon Howell, Jim Groat, Watts Martin,
  Kjartan Arnorsson, Brian Sutton, Joe Rosales, Mel. White, Kyla
  Littlejohn, Jim Drew, Joy Riddle, Riley, and David Bliss.

Cost is $6.00 plus $1.50 postage.  Subscriptions are also available at
  a reduced price.

Mail to:  Matthew High, 1200 Patricia #1208, San Antonio, TX 78213.
  Checks and MO's in US dollars made out to Matthew High only, please.

Issue 2 will be out in October.
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-------'We're DynaBlue and DynaBlack!  Can we interest you in some short------
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From: porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Zoomorphica's out!  Yay!  =)
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:30:03 -0500
Organization: Raccoon-Silkies have more fun !

In article <1992Aug18.131948.6103@iscsvax.uni.edu>, peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (GREYWOLF) writes:

> Anyway, yes, Zoomorphica #1 is
> out, I gather, since I just got it in the mail today.  Zjonni did some nice
> work on the cover -- It take it that was an ink wash?  Anyway, nice unicorn by
> C. Hanson.  (p. 26)  Where do I send fan mail?  =)

 Yay ! Always good to see more work by Zjonni; I enjoy shaded/washed artwork a
lot, though it doesn't seem to be all that prevalent, at least from what I've
seen (just more difficult to reproduce, or matters of taste ?). *sigh*  I still
don't regret buying that original of Revar.. (as in Yarf! 7, full-length,
holding a glass)  Beautiful.

 As I was saying. >grin<  C. Hanson ? Not a name I recognise.. a new entrant to
the field, or have I just not been looking in the right places ?

 Any chance of a list of contents, or even a capsule review of them ? (Ordering
information ..?)

-- Porsupah

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From: porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: SDCC reports anyone ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 04:49:39 -0500
Organization: Raccoon-Silkies have more fun !

 So, whoever managed to make it to the SDCC over the weekend - how did it go ?
Was there a market for the furry wares ? How did the art show rate in fur
points ? Did the masquerade set new anthropomorphic standards ?

 In particular, did Watts Martin's new Zoomorphica 'zine make its anticipated
debut ? I remember that sounding like a well-balanced production from its
/intentions/, but whether it's come to RL fruition is, of course, quite another
matter..

-- Porsupah

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From: tyger@bluemoon.rn.com (Dale Huffman)
Subject: Re: Warring APAs and other publicational matters
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 08:43:23 EDT

porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:

>  What eventually became of the Barr Wars ? Is there some offspring of it that
> still current - or even better, anyone on the group that's actually
> participating in the (probable :) mayhem ?
yes it is still going...  It's now called Bizarre Warrs, since Donna Barr 
had to drop out..  it's is currently being run my Terri Smith, with help?? 
from Jim Groat...
It's Wait list, now sister Zap APA  the DALLAS BRAWL  is also doing very 
well..  run by Mel. White, and Joy Riddle..
Laughing Coyote Press  5338 Heather Glen,  Garland. TX 75043
and it comes out monthly...
Some current player in the Dallas brawl are Victor Wren, Tracy Kazaleh, 
scott and stanley alston, and many more


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     tyger@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet