HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: O  rasikkum ceemanE
Reply-To: akn8257@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:34:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.220837.16767@menudo.uh.edu>, Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable) writes:
>In the midst of serious discussions, let me post this in the
>lighter side.
>Could anybody complete this good old movie song?
>  O rasikkum ceemanE
>  vaa jolikkum udai aninthu
>  kalikkum nadanam purivomE.
>paadiyavar, padap peyar, nadiththavarkal, padalai iyaRRivar pOnRa
>vivarankalum pirasurikkupattaal mika nallathu.

The movie is "Parasakthi", Sivaji Ganesan's first movie.

- Arunkumar.
>
>Cheers,
>Venkat
>--
>venkat@jetson.uh.edu                  | If you love something,set it free.
>venkat@menudo.uh.edu                  | If it comes back, it is yours.
>aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu(NeXT mails okay)| If it does not, it never was.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Animal Sacrifice in Temples
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:39:28 GMT

In <42433@ogicse.ogi.edu> partha@mse.cse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:

>Meenan Vishnu writes:

>> but, hope that you don't treat this as a flame.
>>There is a saying in coimbatore area.
>>"saathathilE pee irukku, iruthaapale oothunu sonnana
>>
>>
>>If there is shit in the food, how can we filter it and eat. We have to
>>throw the food. We know all the veda and varNa and things and
>>their interpretations, defence and what not does not have
>>any sense. Why do people still defend that?
>>

>Mr. Vishnu has been an ardent critic of the Vedas. At the same time he
>sympathizes with a terrorist organization whose principle is to achiev

  neengaL vEthankaLai kadaipidikaathavar yendRaal
yEn intha kavalai?

  viduthakai pulikaLukkum RigvEdathukkum yenna sambandam
 kandIr!

  viduthalai iyakkangaL terrorist yendRaal vEthathai
thazhupavan yenna gaandhiyavaathiyaa!

 mandRathil vaakuvaatham seiya vanthaal yEthavuthu
ozhunga sollungaL aiyah!

vedathathai sonnal puli! geethayaich sonnal kiLi!
ramanaich sonnal oonaai!  
ippadi thalai-vaai illamal thamizharkaL mEl
veRRupin karaNamaakavO! ennavO! 
theriyavillai thani oru aaL mEl payum neengaL
yenna saamikaLaa! illai vEdikaLaa!

Kathiravan
From: sshanmu@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Looking for a friend @ U Tex, Austin..
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:37:22 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

Hi Guys,
        I'm looking for Vishnu Mohan, a (once) active LACC member.
        He graduated from Annamalai Univ, Chids.
         I do know he is at UTex, Austin.
I would appreciate more news about him (his tel#, etc)
Thanx

        Chi Subramaniam
        SShanmu@UofT02.UToledo.edu
From: partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: India Today - Pay for Top actors
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:09:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.42199
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering

I think some one posted this in SCI recently. According to India
Today Rajanikant is the highest paid Tamil actor now (Rs. 1Crore
per movie). When I had been to India sometime back, Rajanikant
was starting some charity organization. It is commendable that
he made it to where he is now through sheer talent. Wonder how
much Kamal Hassan demands per movie. Though he is a great actor,
I get the feeling that he doesn't have such a following in TN
as Rajani does. Any speculations as to why this is so? Netters?

Partha sarathy

NB: Thalaivar Rajanikant Vaazhga! (Just kidding..)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Re: echo words
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:45:33 GMT

In article <BtnD8H.9Jn@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca  
(C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) writes:
> 
>        mUlai mudukku will be a doublet which in Tamil is called "iNai mozhi"
>        such as "mutti mOthi" = "by hitting and banging", "azhuthu pulambi"
>        ="weeping and wailing" etc. And these are different from Tamil
>        doublets "kala kala enRu siriththaaL" = she laughed heartily 
>        ( kala kala is known as olikuRippu) and this doublet is called
>        irattaik kiLavi(??) in which the repeated word "kala" can not give
 "irattaik kiLavi" is correct. Why such odd name?
>        a meaning standing alone. [ In tamil ther is another uyiraana
>        doublet such as Odi Odi uzhaiththaan.. where the repeated word
>        "Odi" *can* stand alone and give meaning and there are numerous
  They are called as "adukkuth thodar" in tamil.
>        anbudan
>       Selva Selvakumar (selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca)
      
Cheers,
Venkat
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venkat@menudo.uh.edu                  | If it comes back, it is yours.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT)
Subject: Re: Tastelessness or shear hypocracy
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:27:40 GMT



In article <kat.715281803@sarek>, kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes...
>In <6923@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> sri@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (SRITHARAN K) writes:
> 
>>In <1992Aug28.142052.24534@engage.pko.dec.com> thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT) writes:
> 
>>>I agree with most of the things you said. I think that the spread of
>>>gun-culture in otherwise peaceful TN is because of sl-tamil-terrorists and its
>>>sympathizers. If anyone wants to have proof on this, check the old newspapers
>>>from Madras and from Trichy
> 
>>>RT
> 
> 
>>It wouldn't have happened if you people and your goverments haven't
>>supported in the first place for their own benifits.
> 
Sritharan, I really admire that at least you agree to what happened or
happening in TN. Sure enough it is because of foolishness of the Indian as
well as sri-lankan govts.

>>We are not "Weanda Penndati".  Because of your lack of foresight (govt's)
>>we are going through all the miseries now.
> 
See the above statement

>>To change colour we are not patchontikal.
No body is asking to change colors. We pray to God to get rid of this
gun-culture.
> 
>>Cheers,
>>Sri
> 
>  indru pachchonthigaL koovi kondirukinRana
>  intha pachchonthigaL kacchayilE kaasu niRaiya

adeyappa? evlavu kasu therum annathe?

>  pachchai tamizhan amaithiyaaka irukkiRaan

amma. pavam paridhabamana tamizhan amaithiyaaka kallaraiyil irukkiraan

>  irunthaalum- 
>   pachchai tamizhan avarkaLidam pichchai
>   edukkamaaddaan.

(adu sari, tamizhan verengavadhu poi pichchai eduppan! 
do you have any ill-feelings towards fellow tamilians? Why do you compare with
pichchaikkarans?)

Udanpirappe! You should start writing in Murasoli

Anbudan

IRaa. Thee.

> 
> 
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: nas_ng@jsc.nasa.gov. (Naga Ganesan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Tirippati - Saivaite ?? !!
Date: 27 Aug 1992 16:50:34 GMT
Reply-To: nas_ng@jsc.nasa.gov.
Organization: G.E. Government Services





                       ------------------------------
                       Tiruppati - Saivaite ??? !!!
                      -------------------------------

 I read in T. K. T. Viraraghavacharya, History of the Tipuppati
temple, vol.2, TTD publication, 1979 that:
"Upto 1638 A. D., 95% of the inscriptions found in Tiruppati are
Tamil. Beyond 1638 A.D., Tamil inscriptions are not found."

Also, there is historical and inscriptional evidence that two Vijayanagar 
rulers, (Sadasivaraya is one among them) converted the temple into
that of Virabhadra, a Saivaite temple.

In a recent and excellent book:
H. Daniel Smith (Syracuse Univ.) and M. Narasimhachary,
Handbook of Hindu Gods and Goddesses,
Sundeep Prakashan, New Delhi, 1991
treat Tiruppati as the most famous Vaishnava shrine in India,
but the authors note the following points also;

1) kArttikEya is found as one of Venkatesvara's sahasranamams.
2) Bilva leaves are used for worship
3) nAga-AbharaNa (snake jewellery) so common in naTaraja and siva idols,
is found on Balaji. Even though Vishnu sleeps on the cosmic serpent,
it is rare to find snakes on Vishnu's body.
4) To confound matters further, Alvars sing of Venkatesvara as a
Hari-Hara manifestation.

I have not had the opportunity to read the following book yet:
cuntara caNmukanAr, ilakkiyattil vEnkaTa vElavaan, Pondichery.

In conclusion, even though there are lot of references to Venkatesvara
as Vishnu found throughout history, his origins are not clear.




N. Ganesan
nas_ng@gese03.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: Re: Tirupur and volley Ball
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:16:51 GMT

In article <2A9A7679.13925@orion.oac.uci.edu> sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy) writes:
>In article <BtJsnF.HHw@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>at the Sengunthar Youth Conference in 'Tirupur'.  He was soon asked by 
>>>
>>>Meenan Vishnu
>>
>>There was an article about 'Tirupur', in Hindu some time in March 1992.
>>
>>K. Srinivasan
>
>	(stuff about 'Tirupur' deleted).
>
>	Tirupur is also a center of Volley Ball tournaments. Another place
>	in TN where Volley ball is popular is Tirunelveli, I suppose.
>	(Nellai friends' club)
>
>	Volley ball is popular only Kerala, like foot ball is in West Bengal.
>
>	The undeserved popularity of cricket undermines all other sports
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	in India and so in TN.
        ^^^^^^^
>
>	The US Olymics Volley Ball team caught head lines, otherwise dominated
>	by the basket ball 'Dream Team', when they shaved off their heads 
>	en masse in support of their team mate, baldy Bob Samuelson.
>
>	Most of the US team players are from California, including, Steve
>	Timmons, where I live now :-).
>
>	Any information about volley ball in TN, be it from Tirupur or
>	Nellai or some other place, will be appreciated, at least by me.
>
>a volley ball fan,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>M. Sundaramoorthy
>sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu

>sundar@esv1.hsis.uci.edu   

U'r damn too predictable except for the inclusion of India:-)

raghavan
From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: thamizhinbapaavinai avvadamozhiyai patru atraargaL
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

\(TAMIL)
** perumaaL thirumozhi 1.4 **\>
maavinai vaay piLandhu ugandha maalai
	vElai vaNNanai en kaNNanai van kunRam Endhi
aavinai anRu uyyak konda aayar Etrai
	amarargaL tham thalaivanai, andha thamizhinba
paavinai, avvada mozhiyai patru atraargaL payil arangaththu
	aravaNaiyil paLLi koLLum
kOvinai naavuRa vazhuththu endhan kaigaL koymalar
	thooy enRu kolO kooppum naaLE

\(ROMAN)
This paasuram was composed by the chEra king kulasEKaran aazhvaar.
in praise of the Ranganathar of Sri Rangam.

I posted this earlier and asked what people thought of
'vada mozhiyai patru atraargaL'. After a few e-mails and some discussions,
the following translation appears to be the most likely way he meant it.

andha thamizhinba paavinaiyum (aazhvaar paasurangaLaiyum) 
av vada mozhiyaiyum (andha vEdha vaakkugaLaiyum)
patru atraargaL (patrugaLai agatriyavargaL)
payilum (katrukkoLLum)
arangaththu (Sri Rangaththu..)

Thus it would translate, " Sri Rangam where, those free from worldly
attachments, learn the sweet Tamil pasurams and the northern vedas..."

vada mozhi does not really refer to the Sanskrit language, but to the
'northern origin vEdhasas', in the sense of 'thiru vaay mozhi',
'thiru mozhi' etc.... He also places equal importance to the
earlier aazhvaar's 'thamizh inba paa' and includes it first.

K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
From: crathina@norton.uwaterloo.ca (C Rathinavelu)
Subject: Summa Cum Laude ?
Originator: crathina@norton.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:05:51 GMT

 
  What is the real meaning of "Summa Cum Laude"? I will give an

  example. "Mr. Laurance R. Rabiner received the A.B. degree

  (summa cum laude) in computer science from Columbia University,
 
  Newyork". Can anyone explain this phrase? Is it similar to a
 
  degree with distinction/honours awarded in India? Is this phrase

  used everywhere in North-America or only in some universities?

  Thanks in advance.

  Panivuden,
  C.Rathinavelu

 "A person who doesn't know when to speak and when not to, or how
  to make a request in the form which is considered polite within
  the culture, will not be an effective communicator". --- M.C.R.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Great hits of Kannadhaasan (Ellorum kondaaduvoem......)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 07:20:10 GMT


A TRIBUTE TO "KAVIYARASU" KANNADHAASAN
--------------------------------------

Ellorum kondaaduvoem
ellorum kondaaduvoem
allaavin peyaraich cholli, nallorkal vaazhvai enni
ellorum kondaaduvoem

Kallaakap paduththirunthu kazhindhavar yaarum illae
kai kaalkal ointha pinnae thudippathil laabamillae
vanthathai varavil vaippoem, seivathai selavil vaippoem
indru poll endrum ingae ondraai kooduvoem

Ellorum kondaaduvoem.......

Nooru vakaip paravai varum, kodi vakaip poo malarum
aada varum aththanaiyum aandavan pillaiyadaa

Karuppillae vaeluppumillae kanavukku uruvamillae
kadalukkul pirivumillae, kadavulil paethamillai
muthalukku annai enboem, mudivikku thanthai enboem
mannilae vinnai kandu ondraai kooduvoem

Ellorum kondaaduvoem.......

Aadai indrip piranthoemae aasai indrip piranthomaa
aadi mudikkumunnae allich chendroer yaarum undoe

Padaiththavan saerththu vaiththaan valarththavan piriththu vaiththaan
eduththavan maraiththuk kondaan
koduththavan theruvil nindraan
eduththavan kodukka vaippoem
koduththavan edukka vaippoem
indru poll endrum ingae ondraai kooduvoem

Ellorum kondaaduvoem..........


Thiraippadam : Paava Mannippu

Paadiyavar   : T M Soundararajan



"Pullanguzhal koduththa moongilkalae engal kannadhaasan pughazh 
 paadungalae

 Vandaadum gangai malarth thottangalae engal kaviyarasuvin 
 pughazh paadungalae "

"Vaazhga Thamizh, Vaazhga Vaiyagam, Vaazhga Valamudan"

Anbudan,

V R Kumar

-- 
 V.R.Kumar (Ramkumar Venkatachalam)                                 
 CSIRO, Division of Information Technology                         
 P.O.Box:1599, Macquarie Centre, North Ryde, NSW 2113, AUSTRALIA  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.tamil
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: Similarity between Telugu and Tamil(was Re: On the birth of Andhra Pradesh)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:45:38 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <19855@plains.NoDak.edu> ksrao@POWER.EEE.NDSU.NODAK.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.064445.5927@news.uiowa.edu>, rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada) writes:
>>As far as the cultural common ground is concerned, I have no doubt about that.
>>
>>It is quite commonly said that the languages Telugu and Tamil are similar. However,
>>this opinion seems to have been voiced by Tamilians who do not know Telugu.  
>>If it is the structure of the language that was referred to, may be it is so.
>>But if you are speaking of the vocabulary there is almost nothing in common.
>
>     This is a place where I beg to differ. What the author says is true if you
>consider only written Telugu. All classical Telugu literature uses a lot of
>words of Samskrita origin. But most of the spoken Telugu still has a lorge
>majority of words which do not have Samskrita as the origin; true those words
>are not in present day Tamil but were part of Tamil a few centuries ago. Just
>record your normal conversation with your friends and try to find out how many
>words have their origin in Sanskritam and how many do not.
>
>>
>>Ramakrishna
>K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
>

Actually I had implied what you said when I used the criteria of the subject
passing the 10th class exam. I was only talking about the language as a whole
and not just the spoken Telugu. And whatever be the origins of the words it is
what a person understands that matters. Infact, we concur, not differ.

Ramakrishna

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: nasokan@yoho.uwaterloo.ca (Asokan)
Subject: Re: echo words
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:15:13 GMT

In article <BtLvvx.CsM@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering) writes:
[...]
>> Unrelated memory associations:
>> 
>> 	kIchchu mAchchu
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>         Is it the expression used when "tickling" children ?
>         If so, "kichchu kichchu" and  "kichcu muchchu' are also used 
>         but these *might* not be echo words. 

Now that I think about it, I remember the pair from a nursery
rhyme which went something like "kIchchu mAchchuth thAmbALam".
It was in the Grade 1 Tamil reader in Sri Lanka I think.  I
don't know the meaning in this context.  Perhaps some other
valaignar can shed more light.  When I made the first
posting, I assumed that the pair was used to denote the noise
made by birds.


>> 	mUlai kAlai (maybe only in TE)
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>          I'm sorry i don't know this. Does mUlai means a corner here ?
>          Can you please give the meaning and context of this saying ?
>          Thanks. [ it might also be a case of "pair-words" rather than
>          echo words. ]

Yes, it means "corner".  Example usage:
	mUlai kAlaiyellAm thEdinEn
    (I searched in every nook and corner)
"kAlai" is just an echo whereas "mUlai" does have a meaning
relevant to this context.

[...]

Regards,

- Asokan
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Ki Rajanarayanan.... poems.....
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:37:15 GMT

	Ki. Rajanarayanan won  the Sahithya Academy Award for his book,
"kopallapuraththu  makkaL".   I never  had a chance to read any of his
poems.  Jan. 92 issue of the Subhamangala carries few poems of Ki. Raa
with the title "vasanath theRippukaL". I have few of here them for you.
I was so sure that  MY translation  would do some harm to the original
stuff.  Someone else may give a try (please)!

	Is it true that Ki. Raa. is from a Telugu root (2nd generation
maybe) ? 

*
munthi vanthathaal 
karith thuNdu;
pinthi vanthathaal
vairam;
avasarappaddu viddEn.
*

*
theriyath theriya
theriyaamai theriyum.
*

*
poo sonnathu -
mukar;
moochchukkaaRRu
enpEril vizhaamal.
*

*
kooppidda kuralukku
vanthaalum thiddu;
varaaviddaalum thiddu!
karisalil
mazhai pOlaththaan
appaavukku,
naangaL.
*

*
oli mozhiyai vida
oomai mozhi
thEvalai - 
mozhi theriyaathavarOdu
pEsa.
*

*
thaNNeeraal 
aNaiyaamal,
maNNaalum
mudiyaamal,
mazhai, neer, neruppu;
moonRaalum uNdaana 
annaththaal maddumE
aNaiyum thee - 
pasi.

Vicky:
UMass, Aug 31
From: pc_madhu@ruby.enet.dec.com (MADHU)
Subject: Lyrics for Mandram Vandha
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:43:23 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: Tirupati, Madras etc..
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:55:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.213359.28027@cs.wayne.edu> uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar) writes:
>In article <67011@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4084c@prism.gatech.EDU (SRINIVASAN,K) writes:
>>In article <41982@ogicse.ogi.edu> partha@mse.cse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:
>>>temple and that the Vaishnavaites, during one of the emperors' time
>>>(I think a Vijayanagar emperor), took over the temple and converted
>>>it to a Vishnu temple. The points he put forward sound interesting
>>
>>There are two examples of such "god conversions" in the Coimbatore area.
>>The Anuvaavi Subramaniaswami Koil has a Hanuman statue and the Murugan
>>also has a male and a female statues with him -- suggesting Lakshmanan
>>and Sita but advertised as Idumban and Valli.
>
>Murugan and female companians.  Do I see a contradiction.
>(Or am I confusing between ayyappa and murugan, who may be
>different gods)...

   Though Hindu mythology is abundant in its contradictions, there
 is no contradiction in the above passage. Idumban is not a female,
 but Valli's brother. According to Tamil mythology, Murugan married
 Valli and Daivaani. Ayyappa and Murugan are different gods. While
 Murugan is a son of Shiva and Parvathi, Ayyappa is a son of Shiva
 and Mohini ( Female form of Vishnu ).
    Ayyappa is not mentioned in Shiva Purana. Also, Ganesh, Murugan's
 elder brother who is believed to be a Brahmachari in South Indian
 Hindu mythology is married according to Shiva purana. His two wives
 are Siddhi and Buddhi. ( This is why Vinayaka ( Ganesh ) is also
 referred to as Siddhi Vinayaka in some temples. )
>
>>SRINIVASAN,K
>
>
>Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
>(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

                                                            S.Pandian
                                                    sp2@cec1.WUSTL.edu
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     naadaa konRO kaadaa konRO
     avalaa konRO misaiyaa konRO
     evvazhi nallavar aadavar
     avvazhi nallai vaazhiya nilanE.
                                      [ avvai ]
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From: bhat@ccad.uiowa.edu (Dinkar N. Bhat)
Subject: Re: What went wrong ?
Organization: CAD-Research, University of Iowa, Iowa City
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:49:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.175232.14412@wuecl.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>[ Posted For : M.P.Krishna Raj ( raj@cs.odu.edu ) ]
>
>--------------- M.P.Krishna Raj's article -----------------------------
>In article <1992Aug21.162535.11051@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sridhar@enuxha.eas.asu.edu writes:
>>I am not going to regret writing this article anyway and I am going
>>to make enemies because of this article and the ensuing action/discussion 
>>so be it.
>
>Not really. You have contributed good articles regarding 
>Tamil Transliteration schemes.  
>
>>
>>This group was intended to discuss literature/language issues right?
>>The proposers of the group went at great lengths to laugh and
>>ridicule many of the fears expressed at the outset even before the RFD
>>went official. What happened, Sirs? 
>
>The opposers of the group are posting articles only to incite others.
>That is the problem. What about the non-tamils acting like tamils to post
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>offending articles and hate email ?
>Please read my article Thyagarajan vs Niroshan Perera.
>

Hey, what's wrong with you, pal? You really are xenophobic ! Open up,
maybe there is something to be learnt from the outside world. What
or who gave you that crazy idea that non-tamils would have to ACT like
tamils to post "offending" articles? Or is it that anything against
your opinion is "offensive"? I am a non-tamil and I LOVE Madras and
Tamil and it is people like you who keeping trying to say "we are
tamils", "you are non-tamils and hence aliens". Have some class and 
quit being a horse with blinders!

Dinkar.