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From: dweaver@earth.Eng.Sun.COM (David Weaver)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: SVHS EP vs. VHS SP [was: S-video?[sic]]
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:53:51 GMT
Reply-To: dweaver@earth.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: earth

In article 22650@sybase.sybase.com, jywong@sybase.com (John Wong) writes:
>Speaking of S-video, can it be said that S-video, in EP mode, records
>_better_ than EP mode from a standard VHS recorder?

First, let's not confuse apples with rutabagas: "S-VHS" (SuperVHS)
refers to a format of recording audio/video signals on a magnetic
tape.  "S-video" refers to a cabling arrangement for video signals.
The two are not related, except that video recorders using the S-VHS
format happened to be early adoptees of connectors for S-video cables.
(Hi-8 and ED-Beta and Laserdisc players and video monitors/TV's can
use S-video cables, too).

Then, on to the question: is does S-VHS record as well in EP speed as
regular VHS in SP speed?  The answer is subjective; my experience says
"yes, and in fact S-VHS at EP is slightly better than VHS at SP".


> Of course, everything else would be equal (i.e. the quality of the
> tape are the same for SVHS and VHS).

If you used S-VHS tape for both, then it would probably still be true.

If you played games with a regular VHS tape (not recommended) to get an
S-VHS machine to record in S-VHS mode on it, I'll bet the S-VHS image
in EP speed would no longer be better than a VHS image in SP speed.
But that wouldn't be a fair comparison; higher-grade tape is part of the
S-VHS system; you can't record full S-VHS signals on the lower-bandwidth
regular VHS tape.

S-VHS tape is approx 3X the cost of VHS tape, so tape costs are about
the same in either recording method.  But S-VHS recordings then tape up
1/3 the shelf space, so it's still a net "win" to record that way.
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Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.satellite
Subject: New AIWA converters (was: Re: Please advice on Multi System Converters
From: <NAVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 15:56:25 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <jpl1.714167220@Ra.MsState.Edu>, jpl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick
Lestrade) says:
>
>yasin@laser.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yasin) writes:
>
>
>Hi Yasin,
>I have somewhat the same needs.  I have spoken to several manufacturers
>incl Instant Replay (305-854-8777) and Panasonic (201-348-7000).
>Both make very good machines but they are also expensive (approx $2000
>range).  For the "normal" consumer the only hope seems to lie in the
>new Aiwa machines.  THese convert PAL/NTSC/SECAM.  The first model
>that is just now coming out does not have a tuner so you need any
>vcr/tv combo.  this will read the three standards and (I am told)
>you can output in a different standard.  I am on a waiting list and
>they said they would call me back this week.  I do not have the
>model numbers for the Aiwas here in fornt of me, something like MG 110
>and MG 360.

I have seen the 110 in a New York City store (PC Richards or Wiz) for about
$450 (+tax). It indeed does not have a tuner, but it does claim the ability to
convert into NTSC 3.8 (?) [although not into NTSC 4.1 (?), if it makes any
difference] from PAL. It warns about possible picture fade out on the sides.
The 360 is apparently not out yet (I was told it's expected in October). No
idea what its price would be. One last thing, those two units are not "grey
market" imports but come with the standard US warranties.

Does anyone have any experience with either unit? Are these the universal multi
system converters we were all (or at least some of us) were waiting for?  Any
information will be very appreciated.

                                                Bruno
 .no sig (for now)
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Interlocking two LD players
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:52:26 GMT
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA

In article <Aug31.195405.43366@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mn940044@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Mathew Nieberger) writes:
}In article <1522@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
}>I've wondered why the two sided issue hasn't been addressed better. It
}>seems to me that having two laser assemblies would solve the two sided
}>problem. Only the head assembly would need to be duplicate. The rest of
}>the electronics could be shared.
}>
}>The way I'd do it would be either two complete head assemblies (which
}>has the problem of duplicating lots of mechanical positioning stuff)
}>or have one assembly with a laser mounted on each side, one for side
}>A, the other for side B. When the disk was loaded, first the table of
}>contents on one side would be read, then the TOC for the other side.
}>After side A has finished, the location to start playing side B is
}>already known, and the delay would be the time it takes to reposition
}>the head and search for the starting position. I would expect this to
}>be worst case 2 seconds, and best case a small fraction of a second.
}
}  You forgot that the disc must spin down and re-spinup in the opposite 
}direction to read the "TOP" of the disc. If this wasn't the case then
}the disc would be incompatible with the single sided players that only
}spin in one direction. If you are confused on this issue just think of
}the almost outdated Vinyl Records. How would you build a double sided 
}turntable since all info is read from the top with the platter spinning 
}clockwise ( thus leading to a concurrent counter-clockwise spin when looked
}at from below ).

I asked this question a couple of years ago and got no answer; I'll try
again:

I'd like to find a digital signal on a 2-sided LD player that changes
state when a side ends, and back again when the next side starts.  I
would use this signal to "pause" a VCR during side changes.  The
resulting tape would then be seamless.  As it is now, I have to actually
be there to manually pause the VCR.  (This can be a problem at 2:00a.m.
:-)

Thanks for your time.  

-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: ahearn@cds2050.cadence.com (John Ahearn)
Subject: Need help choosing a camcorder
Organization: Harris Semiconductor
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:42:15 GMT

	I need to buy a camcorder sometime in the next few weeks.  So far
I have limited my requirements to the following:

	- VHS-C type (or SVHS-C)
	- auto-focus must be reasonably stable and fast (keeps up with
	  zoom)
	- clarity of picture in low light

I stopped by one store which recommended the Panasonic PV-42, and panasonics
in general, as the best for above.  I would like to hear from the owners
of panasonic camcorders or anyone who seriously looked at them.  Thanks
in advance.


--
John Ahearn 		Cadence Design Systems / RO3-3127
ahearn@cadence.com	555 River Oaks Parkway
			San Jose, CA 95134
			(408)428-4470 FAX (408)944-7265
From: stark@cs.wisc.edu (Jennifer Stark)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Media choice for VCRs?
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:37:14 GMT
Reply-To: duff@phenom.physics.wisc.edu
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

I've just recently bought one of the net.favorite Hi-Fi VHS
VCRs (Sony SLV-696HF), and I've come to wonder what kind of tapes
I should buy for it.

Surely there's a difference between the el-cheapo Taiwanese discount
tapes that you buy at Wal-Mart, and S-VHS tapes - but in particular,
what tapes should I look for for good video reproduction, low oxide
loss, and minimal dropouts?  Are tapes marked "Hi-Fi" actually
worth paying extra for?  Any recommendations?  (I've heard Scotch
tapes are good).

Also, any recommendations on where to purchase tapes in bulk?

Thanks,
Adam.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Subject: LASERDISCS for sale---$10 each! + shipping
Summary: a bunch of discs for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:52:13 GMT
Keywords: laserdiscs, for sale

     I have six laserdiscs for sale at $10 a piece.  All six for $50!

     AMERICAN BOYFRIENDS:  sequel to My American Cousin
     BAD TASTE:  cult horror classic.  Human meat, new taste sensation
     HEAT OF DESIRE:  (french)  a CinemaDisc collection, subtitled
     HEAVEN CAN WAIT:  original Academy Award winning classic w/ Don Ameche
			 and Gene Tierney

			 SCENES FROM THE CLASS STRUGGLE IN BEVERLY HILLS:
			   "fast, fierce & spiked w/ venom", Rolling Stone
			   SHOCK CORRIDOR:  ltx Criterion edition!

			   As I said, $10 each but I'd like to sell them all
			   for $50 plus shipping.

			   I'll settle for COD (you pay charges) or pre-pay
			   w/ a cashier's check if you want to save COD 
			   expenses.
			    
			    E-mail to jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   if you're 
			    interested

			    Later, Jason
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: TECH EXPLANATION OF MACROVISON WANTED
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:27:43 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <9208270907.AA13313@cs.utexas.edu> EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk) writes:
>
>OK,  we've heard all this about *WHAT* Macrovision does, but does anyone
>know *HOW* it works?  In particular, how it confuses VCR circuitary but
>not TV circuitary?  I know its nothing to do with the recording process
>itself, because the same picture degregation occurs even if you just *WATCH*
>the picture thru the 2nd VCR rather than record it.  I guess it confuses
>the NTSC (or PAL) decoding electronics in some way.
>
>Anyone clued-up enough to post a technical explantion ?

I'm far from an expert on this, but here goes.


Macrovision works by confusing the AGC (automatic gain control) to
think it's being fed a very very strong video sigal. It does so by
putting very bright (120 IRE) pulses in the vertical blank interval
which is not normallly on your screen (it's between the frames).

Most VCR's look at the VBI when determining video level and so they
are susceptible to the damage. Most TV's don't ... so they can
display tapes having Macrovision encoding without going dark.
As to why VCR's and most TV's are different in this respect, I
have no idea.

If you have a TV or monitor that DOES monitor the VBI when setting
level ... you're screwed. This is a legitimate use for a Macrovision
killer!



-- 
_______________________________Mike Schuster________________________________
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The Portal (R) System: schuster@cup.portal.com   | MCI Mail,GEnie: MSCHUSTER
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: corwin@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (carl.w.smedberg)
Subject: Re: Getting the Best Deal from Columbia LD
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:57:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.170821.21640@uhura.neoucom.edu>, wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.042454.4159@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:

Stuff deleted about price etc.

> >RED TAG SALE is what it is called. It says "Buy Any Laserdisk
> >from this magazine and you can take any number of specially
> >reduced red tag laserdisk or VHS videos."
> >What is surprising are the "red tag" items.
> >
> >They include "Aliens" Specail LBX edition, $69.95, Golden Age
> >of Looney Tunes, Vols I & II for $69.95.  The Al Jolson
> >collection (list of $149.95) for $99.95..
> >There are probably about 50 disks like that in there.   Hunt
> >for Red October is $19.95, as is the letterbox Terminator,
> >Star Trek V for $14.95.
> 
> Some of those $19.95 and $14.95 prices may be in error.  I ordered
> SILENCE OF THE LAMBS for $19.95 (page five of red tag sale catalog)
> and was told it was in the computer at $29.95 - however if I called
> back on the customer service number they would honor the price error
> (the regular order clerk could not change the price in the computer).
> I did and they did.  A bit of a hassle - they process it at full price
> and then issue a credit.  Best thing is this one $19.95 purchase was
> my ticket to the red tag sale!

I'm wondering if I'm still looking at last months mailing. The last
thing I received had "The Commitments" on the front page and then
a 4 page "Price Blast Sale" flyer. The sale included 35 disks, some
James Bond, ET, Back to the Future (I-III), The Untouchables, Patton
The Bible, Jaws, The Sound of Music, Missippi Burning, Havana etch.
No mention of Aliens,  Hunt for Red October, Silence of the Lambs, 
Looney Tunes, Star Trek, or The Terminator. Please let me know if 
they're doing a little test marketing or if I'm really gonna go
broke next month! :-).

Carl Smedberg @ AT&T in beautiful Lisle Illinois
att!ihlpm!corwin
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmikul@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (thomas.mikulay)
Subject: info needed on the CLD-M301
Keywords: missing owner's manual
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:42:18 GMT


Hi,
I just bought a floor sample Pioneer CLD-M301 ($438) from Highland's going 
out of business sale. I had to scrounge through some boxes to find the
extras that go with the player, like the remote, cables, and owner's manual.
Here is where my problem lies. The closest manual I could find was for last
years model the M90. If someone could tell me what the differences for the
two models is or even get me a copy of the M301 manual I would greatly 
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
TOM

ixfs1.ih.att.com:tmikul
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From: bill@thd.tv.tek.com (William K. McFadden)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases,pdx.movies
Subject: Laserdisc sales in Portland area
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:14:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: tvnews.1992Sep1.071404.20281
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix TV Measurement Systems, Beaverton, OR

[Last modified 3-Aug-92]

Please e-mail additions/corrections to me.


Store			Phone		Address	

Camelot Music		285-7223	1234 Jantzen Beach Center
Camelot Music		652-0788	12000 SE 82nd (Clackamas Town Center)
Captain Video		635-7100	3970 SW Mercantile Dr, Lake Os.
Captain Video II	671-9329	14767 SW Teal Blvd, Beaverton
Fred Meyer		526-1844	11425 SW Beaverton-Hillsdale Hy, Beav.
Fred Meyer		690-5816	15995 SW Walker Rd, Beaverton
Fred Meyer		692-3181	19200 SW Martinazzi, Tualatin
Home Video Library	760-6488	16544 SE Division
Lasers Exclusive	774-2991	Mail order only
Chuck Legg Disct. Laser	244-7638	10110 SW 36th Ct (M-F 7-9p, call first)
Montgomery Ward		652-3877	8800 SE Monterey (Clackamas Town Ctr)
Suncoast Motion Pict Co	659-0348	12000 SE 82nd (special orders only)
Suncoast Motion Pict Co	?		Washington Square
Tower Video		253-8116	NE 102nd & Halsey
Tower Video		626-6666	3175 SW Cedar Hills Blvd, Beaverton
Trilogy			229-1884	2484 NW Thurman (special orders only)
Wherehouse Video	?		4100 SE 82nd

-- 
Bill McFadden    Tektronix, Inc.  P.O. Box 500  MS 58-639  Beaverton, OR  97077
bill@tv.tv.tek.com, ...!tektronix!tv.tv.tek.com!bill      Phone: (503) 627-6920
How can I prove I am not crazy to people who are?
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Looking at LD players
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:45:18 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

dcm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (D. Chris Miller) writes:

: Right now, I'm looking at either the Pioneer CLD-D501 or the CLD-D701. 
: Could anyone mention the pros and cons with these two players?  Are they
: mentioned in the text-files by ?Bob? Niland (sorry if I didn't get that
: name right)?

I sent you the player summary article on 18 Aug.  Did you not receive it?

The article (LD#91) does mention the CLD-D701, but I cannot recommend it.
It appears to have the same black-noise-line problem as the CLD-3090.
The other CLD-xx01 models are probably OK.

There presently is no mid-range 2-sided field-store player that I can
recommend.  If I had to replace my CLD-3070, I'd probably get a CLD-95,
which is a high-end machine.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: ncc1701@madoka.its.rpi.edu (Mark O. Chadwick)
Subject: Re: Getting the Best Deal from Columbia LD
Reply-To: ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu
Distribution: usa 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:21:58 GMT

gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis) writes:

>20th Century Fox just had all 3 Star Wars films REMASTERED.  The P&S
>versions are due out soon (they are listed in the new Sight and Sound
>LaserFlash).  I think they are releasing a VHS boxed set too.
>I wouldn't at all be suprised that all the Widescreen versions on LV
>will be released shortly as well.   AAARRGGGHHHH!!!!!!

So...what kind of remastering are we talking here?

-- 
---
Mark "Emerson" Chadwick -- ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu    chadwickmo@space.laafb.af.mil
From: kapila@cabezon.uucp (Kapila Ranasinghe)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.photo
Subject: Mail Order Dealer Recommendations
Summary: Looking for a good mail order source for a Hi-8 Camcoder
Keywords: Camcoder, mail order, dealer reputation
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:28:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1992Sep4.062837.19338
Followup-To: kapila@lmc.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon

I am interested in the Sony TR101 and the corresponding Yashica,
Ricoh and Nikon models. (KX H3U, R18H and VN-750 respectively).
I have seen some great prices from mail order dealers but would
like to know what your experiences (if any) with the following
dealers has been.  (This is the first time I would be buying
through mail order and any info. you could provide will be
extremely helpful).

Dealer Names
------------

6th Ave Electronic City
United Video & Camera Express
Manhattan Video Wholesaler
Lewis & Clark
B&H Photo-Video
Abes's Cameras and Electronics of Maine
Adorama
PowerVideo

Thanks in advance,

Kapila.

kapila@lmc.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: S-VHS vs regular video output
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 00:39:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.014715.17596@mprgate.mpr.ca> ng@neutron.mpr.ca writes:
>...However, when I compare the video 1 S-Video 
>input (of my TV which a Sony XBR Trinitron) which is connected to the S-VHS 
>ouput of the laser disc player and the video 2 regular video input which is 
>connected to the regular video output of the same laser disc player, I cannot 
>see any difference in picture quality. ...
>
>Did I do the right comparison? or any types of output from a laser disc player
>give pretty much the same quality? Can someone explain to me why I didn't
>get a better image quality from a S-VHS output? 

I think Bob Niland (rjn@fc.hp.com) has an article with a longer explana-
tion of this, but basically it depends on which device (TV or LD player)
has the better comb filter.  Often a high quality monitor such as
the XBR has a filter equal to (your case) or better than the LD player.
On my Pioneer rear projector the two images look different but I prefer
the standard composite video connection rather than the S-Video (not
S-VHS btw).  I think the consensus from previous net discussions of
this FAQ is that the S-Video connector on LD players is mostly a marketing
gimick (except for the $3500 Pioneer LD-S2).


-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
From: borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:30:36 GMT
Subject: Re: The reason for warped tapes ?
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.
Newsgroups: rec.video

In rec.video, wowoc@acs.ucalgary.ca (Witold Owoc) writes:

>Our Sony VHS VCR just returned from an adjustment and head cleaning.
>But... one of tapes being played in it (a rather new Disney) exhibited
>high noise so I popped it out and checked: the lower edge became warped
>(elongated and slighly damaged - looks like a flounce).
>When I had brought the unit to a shop I had took with me a tape (top
>Sony), with the same type of damage, and had showed to a guy - but he
>had just exchanged it for another one (had said bad tape batch).
>
>Now I assume that I can only convince them to look at the problem
>when I am able to name it using proper technical terms, so
>What type of misalignment causes such damage ?
>How to check for such misalignment ?

This type of damage is due to the tape running over guide posts, the type
that have flanges on them (not just a simple post).  It seems to usually
happen at the entrance side (before the video head).  You will see the
the edge of the tape right against the flange, and probably curling at
that edge as well.  Add to this too much back tension, and you have the
makings of a disaster.

Try doing forward and reverse scans as well when looking for the problem.

You need to find a GOOD shop to work on a problem like this.  A GOOD shop
will have tools like hub torque meters (looks like a tape cassette with
meters where the tape hubs should be) and a tape tension gauge (a device
with three "fingers" sticking out of one end through which the tape is
passed).  Expect to pay more at a shop like this, because just these
things represent over $300 of investment.  Then make sure the shop has the
proper service manual for YOUR SPECIFIC MODEL.  And finally, hope that the
shop employs good technicians.


Donald Borowski    WA6OMI    Hewlett-Packard, Spokane Division
"Angels are able to fly because they take themselves so lightly."
                                       -G.K. Chesterton
From: rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: CLD-970 question...
Date: 24 Aug 92 14:59:59 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA

In rec.video, pjharris@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:

> Is the CLD-970/980 a good machine?  What are its pluses/minuses?  I
> have the opportunity to pick one up, but I need to know if it is worth the
> effort.  By the way, that's a Pioneer CLD-970 or 980.  Thanx

The CLD-980 is a decent entry-level machine if you can obtain a new one
with warranty for under $300.

There was no CLD-970, but there was an LD-870, which model is to be avoided,
as it has no digital sound capability.

The CLD-980 was replaced by the CLD-990, which has been replaced by the
CLD-201S.  I still recommend the 980 when they can be found.  Send for
article LD#91 for more info.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.video