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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: equality of opportunity (was: Re: State Income Tax)
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:49:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <C1DA36.FDL@sdf.lonestar.org> amn@sdf.lonestar.org (Andrew Noble) writes:

>In article <1993Jan22.143008.9208@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>
>>And here we see the root of the problem some of us have with voucher
>>proponents; their fine disregard for the effect on THE STUDENTS of
>>"the public school system folding".  What about all those kids for
>>whom there are not seats in one of your nice, competitive private
>>school system as you suck money out of the public school system to
>>fund it?  Oh, silly me.  They don't matter.

>Re-read this paragraph.  Competitive private schools sucking money out of the
>public ones?  The thing that strikes me funny here is that a private school
>distinguishes itself from a public one by NOT accecpting money from the public
>sector, hence the designation private.

And just where do you think the funds for 'vouchers' for private
schools come from under all these plans, a Monopoly set?

> 
>I also believe that the argument for vouchers, provides for the students TO 
>attend the private schools.  One of the strongest reasons that private schools
>exist is that the public educational system is poor (in that area).  Private
>schools provide additional options for education (albiet at a great expense).
>The voucher system helps to alleviate that extra expense, so that a greater
>number of students can be able to attend.

No, most private schools exist because they have a particular creed or
ideology to push.  Over half the private schools in this country are
religious schools, for example.  It has nothing to do with public
education being poor.  Otherwise, why would there have been private
schools for all those years when people thought that public schools
were doing just fine?

-- 
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Sunbird a la 400ci)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Repost from alt.beer(Beer laws in Texas)
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:40:35 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1993Jan15.135648.9705@novell.com> bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
>From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
>Subject: Re: Repost from alt.beer(Beer laws in Texas)
>Date: 15 Jan 93 13:56:48 GMT

>In article <exuptr.632.0@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan12.132911.6207@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>
>>>The PERSON DRINKING ought to be responsible if they place themselves
>>>behind the wheel of a car.  
>>
>>>Hell, why not hold the auto manufacturer
>>>responsible (for providing the car), the highway department
>>>responsible (for providing the road), etc.?
>>
>>Because the presumption is that they did not see him leaving the bar drunk 
>>with his car keys in his hand.

>But they should KNOW that someone, somewhere will be driving one of
>their cars and kill someone with it.  

Why should they know that?  You are confusing prediction with observation.  
You cannot predict what a person *might* do, but when you see them about to 
do it, you can intervene.  

Don't be ridiculous.

>At least when the car was sold,
>the salesman should have made an assessment of the moral and personal
>responsibility of the buyer to determine if he thought that person was
>a responsible individual who wouldn't drive drunk.

Why?  That's not what the bartender is being asked to do.  The bartender is 
just being asked to be responsible about someone who is stinking blind drunk 
walking out of the bar with some car keys.  That might be a tough one for 
you, but I think most people could handle it.

>I know this is absurd, but so if the idea that a bartender in a busy
>bar should be a mother hen to his or her customers.

Someday, when it's your kid that you are asked to identify in the morgue, 
maybe you'll feel different.
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From: wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu (Rick Russell)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: CFC's and the ozone layer
Date: 22 Jan 1993 01:19:19 -0600
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu

Why do I keep trying? Why?

In article <1c5ks*IA1@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>In article <1jb7u8INN893@tamsun.tamu.edu>, Rick Russell writes:
>> In article <-CNis*Bz1@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>> 
>> >Maybe, but how could CFC's released in the evil USA make an ozone hole at the
>> >South Pole?  Why isn't the hole over the USA?
>> 
>> Ah. This is a good question, and the answer is actually very
>> straightforward.

>Keep going, you haven't proved anything yet.  If large quantities of CFC's
>migrate to the South Pole (why) then why don't all the other air pollutants.
>Is the South Pole smoggy?  Do they have acid rain there?

Pritchett rules of logic:

There's smog outside my window. If I mix the air outside my window
with all the air in the world, then the entire world will be smoggy.

Get a grip, Jim. CFCs are inert and don't break down. Smog and
acid-rain creating compounds are, as you almost observed, removed by
RAIN. CFCs are not, because they do not dissolve in or react with
water, like almost everything else.

You asked how CFCs could get to the Anarctic; but to be honest, I'm
not convinced that the hole itself is caused by CFCs. I suspect that
the hole is actually the result of special conditions local to
Anarctica, particularly the extreme cold and the unusual air currents
around the South Pole. That would certainly explain why there isn't a
big hole at the North Pole, although there is a 'thinning', shall we
say, of the ozone in the NP winter. That's what was responsible for
the low-ozone 'finger' that travelled over Europe a couple of years
ago.

Perhaps CFC activity elsewhere in the stratosphere decreased the ozone
concentration enough that the hole formed more easily (or much larger)
than it might have previously. That certainly may be the reason for
the thinnings of the ozone in the NP stratosphere.

Again, I'm not convinced that CFCs are the reason for the hole, but I
am convinced that they are present in the Antarctic. In fact, most
measurements of CFCs are made far from 'civilization' just to avoid
the potential effects of CFC pollution. A popular CFC measurement site
is in Tasmania, for example.

-- 
#      Rick Russell | TAMU Meteorology | wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu       # 
#     "Tomorrow! Tomorrow! I'll claw ya, tomorrow!                     #
#      It's only a litter box away!"               - Bill the Cat      #

Newsgroups: tx.politics
From: johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti)
Subject: Re: The Biased Media
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:21:49 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations and Systems, Austin, TX
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

In article <1993Jan21.142718.4333@rpp386>, jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II) writes:
|> Just keep reminding people that three times as many journalists, by their
|> own admission, are Democrats, as are Republicans.

What does this have to do with bias?  Bias is what they write and say, not
what they ARE.  If three-fourths of the journalists were men, would you then
conclude that the media is biased against women?  If three-fourths of the
journalists are white, would you then conclude that they are biased against
non-whites?

ALL media is biased.  People will believe whichever one confirms their 
preconceptions.

--
John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
        My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
"Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony', merely because I have a pet
 halibut?"
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Social Security
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:06:31 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1993Jan25.163745.22617@raid.dell.com> mikepb@lupus.dell.com (Michael P. Brininstool) writes:

>In article <1993Jan22.142359.9024@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>>Raw birth rate in the United States is 15/1000.  Raw death rate is
>>9/1000.  So he is quite right.  The growth (6/1000) is due to the
>>death rate decreasing more than the birth rate.  The actual
>>population growth in the United States (8/1000) makes it pretty plain
>>that immigration is a relatively small factor of the population growth
>>(actually it amounts to about 25% of the growth, but the growth is
>>quite small) and that there would still be population growth due to
>>the death rate being significantly lower than the birth rate, whether
>>there was immigration or not.

>By your own numbers, 25% of the population increase in this country is from
>immigration.  You call that a small factor?  Granted, there would still be
>popylation growth without immigration, but if the birth and death rates
>were the same, there would be population growth also.  I do not call 25% of
>the new people in the country an insignificant number.  Of course, a growth
>rate of 8/1000 overall, is pretty small.

Michael, the original statement was that the population was growing
because of immigration and not because of declining death rate.  The
numbers posted show that that contention is simply not true.  Now,
what is your problem with that?

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From: billc@airgun.wg.waii.com (Bill Curtis)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Clinton has won...watch your pocket!
Summary: Don't always blame the bankers
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:50:44 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Western Geophysical, Div. of Western Atlas Int'l, Houston, TX


> >
> >With 30 year mortgages at about 8 1/4%, there is still a long way
> >back down to the historical levels of 4 to 5 percent.  When I was a
> >kid, an 8% mortgage was unheard of.  The mortgage books didn't go
> >that high!
> >-- 
> 
> You can blame the bankers, not the feds, for this one.  Historically, mortgages
> have run about inflation + 2-3 %.  So we should be seeing mortgages in the
> range you mention instead of the gouging we are currently experiencing.
> 
> The bottom line is we have become accustomed to paying the high rates and
> the bankers are happy to oblige.
> -- 

Be careful here.  The reason bankers charge the higher rates is not that
they are greedy, rapacious, predatory, but rather because they have to live
with the loans they make.  They must factor in the cost of inflation and
the only way to do this is to try to predict with whatever data is available
a reasonable number.  Remember this, they cannot make a mistake.
Look what happened in Texas when property values dropped.  It was the 
bankers at first who had to live with the bad loans.  Then, as the savings
and loans began to fail, it was you and me.

The problem the banking industry in Texas had then was that property 
values were inflated and the savings and loan people assumed it (inflation)
would go on forever.  Hindsight tells us that was a terrible, terrible
mistake.

I reject the assertion that the bankers at that time conspired to 
rip us all off.  (Undoubtedly some few did just that,and I hope they 
are all eventually prosecuted to the limit of the law. )   Most are
simply business people trying to meet a market.

If Clinton decides, like Carter did, to inflate the currency, 
an option many of his advisors are promoting, then the bankers 
will again be caught holding 30 year mortgages at below market 
interest rates.  That, in its own way, is just as bad as 
falling property values and the devastation and human suffering it created.

Look what happens to the bond market, especially the 30 year treasuries,
when the interest rate value changes.  It immediately reacts.
Because of unforeseen instability in interest rates, bankers have 
to be very, very careful how they make loans.  What went on in 
the late 70s, the high inflation spiral, high interest, was
devastating to our country.  Interest rate instability will kill 
the banking industry long after the perturbation has passed. 

I'm not a banker.  Just an amateur.



---
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Western Geophysical Co.		Domain address    billc@wg.waii.com
BOX 2469 Houston, Tx 77252  	UUNET address     uunet!airgun!billc
(713)963-2628  



-- 
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Western Geophysical Co.		Domain address    billc@wg.waii.com
BOX 2469 Houston, Tx 77252  	UUNET address     uunet!airgun!billc
(713)963-2628  
Xref: sparky tx.politics:8565 talk.politics.misc:70203
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: tx.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Clinton has won...watch your pocket!
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:03:13 GMT
 <1993Jan25.173837.26527@raid.dell.com> <1993Jan26.053349.17311@europa.lonestar.org>
Distribution: tx
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <1993Jan26.053349.17311@europa.lonestar.org>, Tom Kimball writes:

> George Bush was just plain dumb to ask voters to READ MY LIPS.  You may

WRONG!!!  He was SMART to make the promise.  He was DUMB to break it.  This
country doesn't need ANY new (or higher) taxes.  It needs the government to
spend MUCH less!


                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Against the Grain: aka Jaws II
Keywords: Taxes, Fair Share, Cut the Fat
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:43:53 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1855@airgun.wg.waii.com> miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller X7114) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.135936.10440@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>Why are Universities letting in students who aren't qualified? 

Maybe because there seems to be this feeling that everyone is entitled to an
opportunity at a college education?

>Excellent point. I agree. This charge-back silliness is just another example
>of people blaming poor student performance on the schools.

There's plenty of blame to go around.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    "begin 666 foo 266]U(&AA=F4@;F\@;&EF92X: ` end" -- Daniel Drucker
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Sunbird a la 400ci)
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: Re: ESDI cable lengths
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:25:19 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <VWZMIH5@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
>Subject: ESDI cable lengths
>Date: 13 Jan 93 05:29:55 GMT

>How long can I make an ESDI cable without flakiness?

About a week, I'd say.

.
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Newsgroups: tx.wanted
From: dhartman@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (David E. Hartman)
Subject: Good Printer wanted
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: tx 
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:47:46 GMT

All:

I am in the market for a good, quality used printer.
Here are the specs:

Parallel
9-pin ok, but prefer 24-pin
Epson compatible
inexpensive - ~$100

If you have an output device resembling this one,
please e-mail me.  I will consider sellers in
Austin (and area) & San Antonio (and area)... I have
to be able to see it in person before I'll buy it.

Thanks much!
Dave Hartman
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Newsgroups: tx.wanted
From: wlarkin@hounix.org (Ward Larkin)
Subject: Wanted:  PC keyboard
Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX
Distribution: tx
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:29:26 GMT

I have an old PC/XT and the keyboard went bad.

I'm interested in buying a used keyboard.  I'm hoping that
there are people out there who upgraded to expanded keyboards
and still have their old keyboards lying around.

If you have an old keyboard which you're willing to sell
for a reasonable price, then please email me.


-- 
-- Ward Larkin
   wlarkin@hounix.org
From: cdawg@freeside.com (Chilly dawg)
Newsgroups: tx.wanted
Subject: UNITED PARCEL SERVICE SOFTWARE
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 18:42:25 CST
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

I'M LOOKING FOR SOME UNITED PARCEL SERVICE aka (UPS) SOFTWARE, IF ANYBODY 
COULD HELP IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
                                        CDAWG

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Rivendell BBS -*- Houston, TX -*- +1(713)941-2236
From: fjm@zycor.lgc.com ()
Subject: Unix System Administrator, Houston TX
Originator: fjm@oasis.zycor.lgc.com
Organization: Landmark/Zycor  (Austin TX)
Distribution: tx
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:25:25 GMT



Position Description:
	- Support comprehensive hetrogeneous network of UNIX workstations,
	  servers, and graphic output devices supporting development of
	  software applications. 
	- Support the for the following platforms on multiple LAN/WAN networks: 
				1.  SUNS (SunOS and Solaris)
				2.  IBM (RS6000 + AIX 3.2), 
				3.  HP (HP-UX)
				4.  DECS (Ultrix 4.2)
	- Support installation and utilization of operating system releases, 
	  software productivity tools, WAN network interface support, system 
	  adminstration software, network performance/management software. 
	- Provide user support and trouble-shooting for UNIX network, internet,
	  WAN, DNS, NIS, NIS+, EMAIL issues. Work across the various subnets
	  and WANs to ensure integration and free flow of work and information
	  between product development, corporate network traffic, management
	  information system traffic, and other product development teams both
	  in Houston, and Austin.
	- Provide and maintain network wide security to the outside world.  
	- Schedule and maintain network wide backups using state-of-the-art 
	  distributed archiving tools.

Desired Requirements:
	- Strong familiarity with UNIX operating system architecture
	- Strong background in computer (RISC+CISC) architecture
	- Understanding of software applications and interfaces; including
	  relation database systems, etc..
 	- Strong understanding of network adminstration tools, 
	  client/server architecture, network management tools (SNMP, etc..)
	- In-depth knowledge of TCP/IP-based network systems and associated
	  common protocols such as SNMP, SMTP, NTP, DNS, NIS, NIS+ 

Mininum Requirements:
	- BS in Computer Science or Computer Engineering or BS in Electrical
          Engineering with a minor in Computer Science or Computer Engineering
	  with an emphasis on networking, OS, etc..
	- 2-5 years experience as a UNIX system/network administrator in a
	  heterogeneous environment supporting 20+ nodes and servers in 2 or
	  more subdomains. 
	- Must be a U.S. citizen or a Permanent Resident in the U.S.
	- Good verbal communication and interpersonal skills
	- Ability to work well in a team

Benefits:
	- Very competitive salaries
	- Chance to work with state-of-the-art high-powered hardware/software 
	
	
Send resumes to:

	hiring@zycor.lgc.com
Newsgroups: comp.jobs,tx.jobs,misc.jobs.offered
From: fi33@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: 89 Virago for sale
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:58:32 GMT

For Sale:
1989 Yamaha Virago 750
~7k miles
Dark metallic burgundy
excellent condition

I must sell my bike because my wife and I are buying a house.  
I am asking $3000 but that is negotiable.

You can call me at home at 817-383-2772.  If I'm not home, leave a message and
I'll get back to you.  Or Email me at Fi33@vaxb.acs.unt.edu.

thanks Steve.
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Newsgroups: tx.forsale
From: frosty@world.std.com (Robert J Nunez)
Subject: Save $$ if you buy bottled water
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:51:38 GMT

I have 3 filters that remove chlorine and other substances from drinking
water to produce bottle-quality water.  These filters were used only long
enough to clean out the packing carbon to test them out.  Each does 10,000
gallons.  The price for each is $200 which works out to 2 cents a gallon
(compare to $1 average price for bottled water).

Email any responses or call me at 617-859-3152 in Massachusets (EST).

Robert Nunez
Newsgroups: tx.forsale
From: Yonatan Yoshpe <yoshpe@andr.ub.com>
Subject: MacIIFX 4/40 $2240
X-Xxdate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:55:39 GMT
Organization: Ungermann-Bass, Inc
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:23:22 GMT

MacIIFX, 4/40 with 8bit Apple HighRes video card all for $2250.  Keyboard
& mouse not included, but a Felix (mouse device - which costs $150) is
included.  The Hard Disc is new and the machine is like new.  This is a
great price, check around.  This Mac is the fastest after the Quadra
series.  It is a 40MHz with 6 Nubus slots and includes the 1.4 MB super
drive.  I can be reached at 508-6914653 or 617-9656883.
Xref: sparky tx.forsale:695 tx.wanted:290
From: miles@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Miles Abernathy)
Newsgroups: tx.forsale,tx.wanted
Subject: Color TV Camera Wanted, Cheap&Light-Defects OK, Suggestions Wanted
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:22:46 GMT
Followup-To: tx.forsale
Organization: University of Texas
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
X-XXMessage-ID: <A7847DFB56059F2B@mac33.util.utexas.edu>
X-XXDate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:21:15 GMT

I am looking for a very small, lightweight color TV camera, to send up
suspended from a kite. I know that low-cost high-quality midget b&w
cameras are readily available ($205, tel. 800-221-2240), but am hoping to
find a cheap color one.

I don!t mind if it has defects, like a burned spot or two. Don!t need a
camcorder, just a camera.

Does anyone know where to find such a device? Any ideas on how to find
units rejected by the manufacturer due to a bad pixel or two?
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Newsgroups: tx.forsale,autstin.forsale,ut.general