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From: alteh@bnr.ca (Alwyn Teh)
Subject: re: P.R. for HK student in UK??
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:43:24 GMT

Hi Wilson,

  I came to study at school in the UK in 1977 and  eventually  graduated
in 1987.  I got a BA Hons.  Degree in Physics &  Computer  Science  from
Keele University.  At that time, there was a shortage of computing staff
in the UK.  I wrote to the  Home  Office  and  explained  my  situation,
stating my  intentions  to settle in the UK, asking for PR instead  of a
work permit.  (i.e.  you write to the Department of Nationality  and NOT
the Dept.  of  Employment).  I sent in my  passport  with the letter and
waited  patiently,  fully  prepared  to pack up and  return to HK by the
expiry date of my student visa.

  In the mean time, I got offered a job as a Junior  Programmer with NMW
Computers  PLC in  Nantwich.  I rang to inform the Home  Office  officer
dealing  with my  application  of the job  offer  and by  October  I had
received  my passport  back from them  granting me  indefinite  leave to
remain and work in the UK (a stamp on my passport with a letter).

  When you write, I advise you to state  anything  you think  they might
want to ask you about to save having delays in  processing  your request
and possibly arranging an interview.

  Things  have  changed  now,  I've  heard,  and  everything  is at  the
discretion of the Home Office, and  everything is handled  individually.
The Hong  Kong 1997  issue  then  wasn't as hot as it is now but I don't
know how much this has a bearing.  What about the points system?  You're
better off doing some investigation up front first before applying.

  It was a personal  decision to have chosen to stay in the UK.  For me,
I was too used to  living  in the UK to  return  to HK to live, or try a
different country.

  Anyway, all the best.

Regards,

Alwyn

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Date: 8 Jan 1993 01:14:17 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan7.222429.26574@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> mcleung@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Man C. Leung) writes:
>
>Tax rate for singles at 40K is above 30%, twice as much as the 15%
>flat rate in HK.  I don't know what the cost of living in HK is
>nowadays.  Can someone take that into consideration and come up
>with some objective/subjective evaluations?
>
	
	Well, even if you earn 40K, it makes a difference in Idaho
	than in the SF Bay Area !!! You can easily  afford to buy 
        a nice house if you are NOT in some places such as the
	Bay Area.
	
	So, in general, your gross income is higher in the US but
	you have to pay more income tax. However, US has a lower
	inflation rate nowadays. Things, especially real estate,
	are expensive in HK.

        But in HK, you might have more fun, more choices when 
	you go shopping. (more chances to spend you money ... :) )
	and sense of belongings, which I think is one of my factor
	in evalutation !!

	Vincent 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: alaw@elaine38.Stanford.EDU (Alvin Law)
Subject: Re: ? Good HK Hotel
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 10 Jan 93 18:24:48

jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) writes:
>Ill be in HK next week...any suggestions on a good hotel...I like
>TST side the best.  I usually stay at the Kowloon (so I can pretend Im
>staying at the Pen!)....What are your favorites.

If you prefer TST, Regent, New World and Kowloon are among your
choices.  Otherwise, if you don't mind staying on Hong Kong side, you
can try Grand Hyatt, Conrad and Island Shangri-La.

>Whats the temperature now?

mid 60's to mid 70's



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: thomas@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Thomas F.)
Subject: ftp site
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:08:19 GMT

can anyone out there remind me where the ftp site of those
hk scenic gifs is? i just can't remember the address.
From: wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng)
Subject: Re: Pay Range in HK
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 09:49:28 GMT

U.S. citizens / pr are taxed on their worldwide income even if
resident in HK, so they have to pay more tax.  HK tax they already
paid is a credit.  Canadian citizens / pr are taxed on their 
worldwide income only if they reside in Canada (at least was
the case few years ago).  So if they live and make money in HK,
they don't pay Canadian tax.

Wing

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: About flowers
Originator: leung@bittemple
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:26:54 GMT


vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li) writes:

|> >The most beautiful moment of a flower varies among various types. For most
|> >flowers, it is the moment of full blossom.
|>
|> Although I think we know when a flower looks beautiful, we don't really know
|> when it's not. To use a cliche, "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder".
|> Everyone has their own views. Personally, I think "most brilliant" might be
|> a better description than "most beautiful". Beauty could be in a dazzling
|> brilliance, could be in a subtle pastel, could be something you don't even
|> notice 'til it's gone.

Well, I haven't talked about knowing "when it's not." Look, all this sentence
addresses is _the most beautiful moment_ of a flower, and I'm not comparing
the beauty bet'n different flowers, but the different life stages of a flower
herself. Also, not in the most beautiful moment is not equiv. to not beautiful!

|> >Many people think that the type of flower they love most is the most beautiful 
|> >type although in reality, few of them actually see more than a couple types. 
|> 
|> True. But then, an orange is orange although an apple is red. 8-)
|> It seems only logical that the flower one loves most is one that think is most
|> beautiful, "beauty" in its many senses. When one knows of many types of flowers,
|> one may still love the one one used to love, or may find a different favourite.
|> But the flower one loves the most, is still the most "beautiful".

Well, it may be logical. But I would argue that only when one comes to realize
that "this flower is not the most beautiful one in the world, but it is the one
I love most" can one reach a new state in life. Of course, there are people
never mature, i.e., "forever young" - so it's not necessarily a bad thing.

|> >Behind every successful bee, there are more than one flowers.
|> 
|> And behind every successful flowers, there are many bees (and butterflies).

No, that's not true. Flowers can be successful on their own. (Hmmm ... I
definitely should add this point into my essay.)

|> Biology 101 says: ...

Well, just one comment: this is an example of that seeing too clear is not
necessarily a blessing ... I still think that looking at the butterfly
standing on a flower as [practice on] posting for photo opportunities
probably makes life less boring, because you can then criticise whether
he selects the right flower to match his taste, strikes a right post, etc.

Steven
-- 
328. Seek opportunity, not security. ...
        - Life's Little Instruction Book by H. J. Brown, Jr.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan)
Subject: Question of a Last Name
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:35:44 GMT

I'm wondering if the lastname - Seto is actually originated from china? or
is it a japanese lastname that chinese translated, or it just happen to be
the same when translated into english?

Fran
From: rocking@tornado.welly.gen.nz (Keane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Music
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 16:51:19 +1300
Organization: Tornado BBS, Wellington, New Zealand.

Hello.

I am a teenager who is madly into Chinese Pop/rock music.
Any body whoses what to talk i would be very happy.

I am mainly into the mid and late 80's and I need to know some newer ones

My tastes are the following, most of them have retired:
( Translated to Cantonese at my best ability 8-) )

Sam Hui: Hui Guan Get
Anita Mui: Mui Yim Fong
Lam : Lam gee Chong
Lessie: Gun Got Wing.
?: Lun Fon
Pisscela Chan: Chan Wa Hun
Jenny: 
?: Sue Yut

and A few others.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: an5724@anon.penet.fi
Subject: RE: How to get HK news
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:52:49 GMT


You can add your name to the mailing list by sending your name to
hknews@ahkcus.org
request@ahkcus.org

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From: yyy@engr.LaTech.edu (Yan Y. Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Music
Date: 10 Jan 1993 10:24:01 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
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I think Anita Mui, Lessie and Alan Tam are retired already.  The main reason fortheir retirement is to avoid the their domination in the music industry.  Right now I think Jacky Cheung, Andy Lau, Lai Ming and one other guy are the hottest  male singers in H.K.  Maybe you should try some of their songs.  I personally   like Jacky the most.

Yee Yu
From: Joseph.Lai@f261.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Joseph Lai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: look for peers
Date: 8 Jan 1993 04:22:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


I am working as an electrical engineer in CLP. I would like to establish a
common interest group in this field. If anybody is interested, please leave
message in this area and may talk any topic in this large field in future.
Best regards!
Joseph 

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From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: RACIST
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:29:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Followup-To: 
From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Subject: Re: bimbos
Keywords: 

In article 11254@fuug.fi, an3879@anon.penet.fi () writes:
>I know several Chinese girls.  It seems that all the Chinese girls
>that I know who grew up or were born here in America are bimbos.
>They wear tons of makeup, use disgusting perfume, smile too much
>(I'm talking about fake and insincere smiles), wear clothes that
>are too tight and skirts that are too high, and just all around
>too gung ho American.
>
>I hate them, every time I see one of them I just want to throw up.
>
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It is obvious that this man has a problem. At first I wanted to ignore him 
'cause I'm sure he just wanted attention. But such a racist remarks should ban 
him from having access to this or any other news group. If anyone could help 
in determining where in the Ohio area this man is and contact the proper authority 
to disallow him from using the network.

TU



Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 1993 02:06:59 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Seeing that I like..
	<buehlman.726127920@werkz02>

Friends,

.

       Seeing that I like the Cantonese taste. Is it sorta easy, if one
wanted to go, to Canton from Hongkong? I actually like Hongkong very
much. Expecially, where Bruce Lee grew up! I wish that I will have a
chance to see this beautiful land. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mak853@cs.cuhk.hk (Mak Ming Chi)
Subject: Help!!!!! Looking for SYDNEY LEE IN U OF ALBERTA!
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:41:23 GMT

HI,

	If anyone has the address(or email address) of sydney Lee. 
Pls email to me! My email address:

mak853@cs.cuhk.hk 
or
ummak019@ccu.umanitoba.ca

						Paul Mak
D
D
D
PS:He study computer sc master in u of alberta.
1/4/92
From: samlam@acs.bu.edu (Hiu Fung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: good new years
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:20:09 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wing@pegasus.com (Wing Ng)
Subject: Re: Question of a Last Name
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 09:54:23 GMT

Seto comes from the job title of a high govt. official, seto,
sema, sehung, attorney general, defense minister, don't know
what sehung does.  Definitely not Japanese.

Wing
From: kkchan@csd.bu.edu (ka kit chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Boston
Date: 9 Jan 93 03:10:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

The best way you write to them and ask them  send you all of the
information you need, remember to mention you want to do your grad
or under-grad program.  Cause the Medical school is quit special
in BU, so you may need to mention to them if you are going to do your
pre-med program.

Address : Under-grad : Boston University, Addmision Office 881
                       881 Commonwealth Ave, Boston MA 02215	
          
	  Graduate_school : Boston University
		            Graduate School
                            705 Commonwealth Avenue
			     Boston, MA 02215

I think if you have future more question, can write or call the
International Student Office:
address: International Students and Scholars Office
	 19 Deerfield Street
	 Boston, MA 02215
	 USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: iu051@cs.cuhk.hk (Iu King Fung)
Subject: Re: Question: Any Commercial Systems in HK?
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:58:41 GMT

elizabec@fraser.sfu.ca (Elizabeth Fong Wah Chan) writes:

>Hi, HK netter.

>Could anyone in HK tell me if there are commercially-operated systems
>in HK that provide such services as Netnews, e-mail account subscription,
>etc. to local HK people? As I know that all postings from HK originated
>from one of those universities and technical institutes, what can those
>HKers who don't have accounts in any of these institutes do if they 
>wantto use the above mentioned services?

Yes, I know one at least.  It is called compuserve and is a service
provided by Huchison Information.  The subscribers to the service can access
to the network that we are using.  However, the fees for subscription is not
known.

K.F. Iu
From: Charles.Dittmeier@f487.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Charles Dittmeier)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Welcome to Shanghai
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:23:38 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 On 12-14-92 Dean Lee wrote to Charles Dittmeier... 
 
 DL> Thanks a lot. I hope to visit you in HK some day. 
 
 I hope it is possible for you to visit HK so we can meet. 
 
 DL> BTW, Could u tell me if you are a Chinese? 
 
No, I am from the United States.  I was born there although all my 
grandparents were born in Germany. 
 
 DL> Keep in touch! 
 
Certainly will! 
 
Peace in the new year! 
Charlie 
 
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From: katy@athena.cs.uga.edu (Katy)
Subject: Re: Passport renewal
Keywords: Passport renewal
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:28:27 GMT

In article <1iq3o2INNd72@west.West.Sun.COM> jhchan@west.sun.com writes:
>Helleo HKers,
>
>I am hold a U.K passport which is expiring soon, where can I get
>a renewal ?   Last year, I heard all the renewal are done at
>the East coast ?  
>
>Would someone send one more info  ?
>
>john Chan
>
>
>
I believe you can send it to any British Consulate in the States to 
get a renewal passport, but if you still want to send it to the east coast,
here's one:

	British Consulate General
	Consular Section
	Suite 912
	225 Peachtree St. NE
	Atlanta     GA
	
	(404) 524-5856

I think you'll need to call them for an application before you send them your
passport.  Good luck!

Katy


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ee_hflo@uxmail.ust.hk (Michael Lo Ho Fung)
Subject: Re: News...
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:39:57 GMT

Samuel Tung (tung@ocf.berkeley.edu) wrote:
: Just watched the ATV news...

: There was a robbery at a jewelry shop in "Shun Wor" center in Mongkok.
: The robbers were equipped with AK47 and Russian-made gun. A policeman

                   This gun is 54 made in China. It is modify from AK47
This type of gun is used by army in China

: was shot at the leg and a passer-by (woman) was shot at the head and 
: killed!

: Another news is that a dissident of PRC called Cheng Yi arrived in SF
: today and he said he had evidence that a massive "man eat man"
: incident occured in Guang Xi during the Cultural Revolution. He will
: reveal the evidence when he arrive in NY.

: Sam
: -- 
: Sam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: afung@world.std.com (Albert K Fung)
Subject: Re: Boston
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:25:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.085707.3950@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> 92915855@cphkvx.cphk.hk writes:
>Could somebody tell me something about the studies of
>Communication/Advertisement in Boston, USA.

The two institutions that I'm most familiar with - MIT & Harvard, do not offer
direct programs in communication or advertisment. However they offer courses
in marketing in their business schools (Sloan of MIT and Baker of Harvard).
Advertisement was treated as a topic in the marketing courses. Marketing is
a reqirement for their business degrees.

MIT tends to be a bit research and academic oriented while Harvard's "case"
approach offers a slightly better view into the real world.

Northeastern University, Emerson College, Boston University and a few other
smaller colleges all offer direct studies in the disciplines with different
flavors. Unfortunately, I don't have first hand info. on their programs.
I'm sure other netters can fill you in on them.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Al Fung
SoftFab International Ltd., Cambridge, MA
Email: afung@SoftFab.COM

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: New Picture Posted
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:14:19 GMT

wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan) writes:

>HONG KONG PICTURES ARCHIVE - (HKPA.MISC)
>========================================
>NEW PICTURE POSTINGS
>====================

>I posted a comic picture in alt.binaries.picture.misc.

>Here is the description:

>File: seto01.gif       
>Size: 243k
>Description: Cover of 'Andy Seto Art Illustration
>Resolution: 529x1000x256

>Enjoy!

>Fran

HKPA welcomes you, Fran! Thanks so much for your contributions.

Alan, HKPA.POPSTARS maintainer;
      soc.culture.hongkong FAQ, Part IV maintainer;
      HKPA.MISC comic picture collections task force
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From: cng@me.utoronto.ca (Charles Ng)
Subject: Sharing Business Ideas in Toronto
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:53:30 GMT


Hi,

Are you living in toronto?  And are interested in setting up a business of
your own?  We have an excellent team of people helping each other to build
spectacular business.  If you don't like to idea of forever working 9-5
for your financial needs, and you are between the age of 25-35, we like
to talk to you.  Please feel free to leave message at my email at:
cng@me.utoronto.ca

Looking forward to meeting you.

Charles


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mmhw@doc.ic.ac.uk (Mark Ming Hon Wan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: .......
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:46:35 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
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