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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:53:45 EET
From:         Jari 'Jartsu' Lehto <jartsu@SNAKEMAIL.HUT.FI>
Subject:      Re: Software
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              93 11:18 am

You (DOMINIC PLANT) wrote:
>
>         Can anyone tell me about Software for a PC which
>         can be used to compose and play electronic music
>         like Tangarene Deam, JPM Jarre etc.  Good software
>         that is.
>
>
>                          Dominic.

Try Steinberg Cubase for Windows.
Tangerine Dream themself use Cubase with ATARIs, they are one of the
main testers and developers for Steinberg software.
... and there is a Mac-version too.
Excellent software, I use the Atari-version daily, mainly composing
and arranging music for computer produced animations etc.

It is expensive, but easy to use and very powerful. Designed for
professional use.

Only disadvantages are that it is not so easy to find a dealer carrying
Steinberg products, and the products are first programmed and
optimized for Atari, the latest version cames first for Atari, and
then ported to Mac and/or PC, maybe not with all the features that the
Atari version has.


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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:49:07 -0500
From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" <xrjdm@CALVIN.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: Looking for System Recommendations
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@american.edu
              Jan 10, 93 02:58:24 am

Kevin Sahr writes:
>
> And since I'm asking novice questions, is there a faq for
> this list?
>
No, but if people want to write them, I'll put them up on the
EMUSIC-L ftp site (hint, hint). There's an article there
(castrovalva.gsfc.nasa.gov, or 128.183.33.197) called
"buying-the-first" which is a compendium of hints on buying
your first keyboard.

 --- Joe M.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:18:00 EST
From:         Robert Depin <DEPIN@TARGET.COM>
Subject:      Don Buchla
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>Question:  Who is Don Buchka and what's a "Braille Thunder?"

Mike S.,
        I think you Don Buchla.  He's a synthesizer designer who has tried
several different controllers other than the traditional keyboard.  Touch pads,
different key layouts, etc..  I haven't kept up with his latest designs, but
they're usually pretty far reaching custom machines for university and experi-
mental music studios.

Bob
DEPIN@TARGET.COM
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 11:18:18 GMT
From:         DOMINIC PLANT <DPLANT@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      Re: Software

        Can anyone tell me about Software for a PC which
        can be used to compose and play electronic music
        like Tangarene Deam, JPM Jarre etc.  Good software
        that is.


                         Dominic.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:06:09 -0500
From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" <xrjdm@CALVIN.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      No sight in sounds (fwd)
Comments: To: Electronic Music Discussion List <emusic-l@auvm.american.edu>

Michael A Squillace (squillac@student.msu.edu) writes:
> Hey, all:
>
> As a handicapper (the preferred term for we "physically challenged" persons in
> Michigan), one of my first goals is to promote awareness whenever possible.
> Hence, I cannot esist the chance to comment on what it's like to program
> today's synths without sight, since this seems to have stirred a few minds out
> there.
>
> In the beginning, things weren't so bad.  My ARP AXXE has only about 15 or so
> levers and a few switches (and, to my knowledge, only one LED for power up).
> Knowing the basi configuration of analogue synths, it was fairly simple to
> create sounds.  Even my JUNO 106 was fairly straight forward, though it has a
> few more LEDs and one display for the patch number.  A good memory and the
> patience of a reader or two who knew nothing about music in going through the
> manual with me is all that was necessary.
>
> Now, with my D50, things have become a bit complex.  Layers of menus and
> little graphs on the PG1000 are quite difficult to maneuver without eyes.
> I have made extensive braille charts for myself and labels for the major
> sections on the programmer but things are still rough.  One of these days,
> someone will build a synthesizer that includes speech output.  Why we persist
> in creating sounds based on visions and graphs is beyond me -- no one would
> think of creating a painting from sounds (or would they).
>
> Actually, I'm not so sure that the problems I encounter with the D50 are all
> related to my lack of sight.  Be honest, y'all, there's just too many darn
> parameters!  I counted once, and there's about 340 parameters per sound on
> that blinkin' keyboard!!  That's alot to program even if you have eyes.  The
> next stage in technology is going to require not only more control but some
> other means of control.  Endless rows of knobs, levers, buttons, and
> joysticks simply won't cut it.  I'm hoping that, upon such a change, the
> visually-oriented sound creation will suffer a change as well.
>
> Two questions:
>
>      1.  Does anyone know of such "other means of control" in the making or in
> the near future?  Are they as visually-oriented as current technology is?
>
>      2.  More generally, am I the only one that sees the need to change?  Can
> we continue to program as we do?
>
>      --->  Mike S.
>
> P.S. Would have responded sooner but just got back into town from the holiday
> break.
>
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:58:46 EST
From:         Jon Crystal <OFABJC@UVMADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Compositional Approaches

A brief follow-up on the recent discussion of how we come up with compositional
 ideas. I came across the following quote in the preface to Wollner"s "Improvis
ation in Music":

" I sit down, I start to play, to improvise, depending upon whether my soul is
sad or gay, serious or playful. If I succeed in catching an idea, then my endea
vor is directed to an elaboration of the work according to the rules of the art
."

Josef Haydn
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From:         Mario Vergona <MARIO@BKLYN.BITNET>
Subject:      ROLAND MV-30
Comments: To: emusic-l@auvm.bitnet

Hi,
   Over the holidays I purchased a ROLAND MV-30 which is a box that has
an MC-50 sequencer and the sound engine of a D-70. I would be interested
in hearing from anyone else that has the same machine. I would also like
to know if it can accept dumps of sounds. After reading the manual a
few times I get the impression that the only way to load sounds into it
is thru the disk drive. I would also like to know if there is a way of
loading ROM patch data directly into the memory. I can access sounds on
cards but I would like them resident so I could store them to a diskette.
Any help/info would be greatly appreciated.
                                           m
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From:         Andrea TONI <andrea@SIHP03.SI.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
Subject:      Re: -- AES-EBU specs --
Comments: To: Electronic Music Discussion List <EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU>

> Audio Engineering Society, ``AES Recommended Practice for Digital
> Audio Engineering --- Serial Transmission Format for Linearly
> Represented Digital Audio Data,'' AES3-1985 (ANSI S4.40-1985),
> J. Aud. Eng. Soc., Vol. 33, No. 12, December 1985

Thnx for the tip !

> BUT... Trust me. You don't want to play with the AES-EBU signal itself.
> What you want is an encoder-decoder chip sets that converts it to or from
> a useful serial format with the necessary clocks. Check out the
> Yamaha YM3436 and YM3437 chips (Call Yamaha 800-543-7454 for spec sheets).

No I don't want to play with the signal .. I just want to know how it works
anyway !
The idea is to get an AKAY S950 and to sample in digital from a cheap
CD-player ! I will probably need as you said a clock regenerator that
adjust and synchronize the 2 diffrent data rate ..
But still what is the format of a digital-out on a CD player ?
I bet it isn't AES-EBU !

Ciao,
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:25:49 PST
From:         metlay <metlay@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: MIDI on SGIs
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@american.edu
              at Jan 9, 93 11:50 am

>I'm looking at getting some MIDI I/O up on a Silicon Graphics Indigo. Am I
>right in assuming a Mac MIDI interface will work? I believe the Indigo is
>using RS-232, rather RS-422. Can anyone share any gems of wisdom in this
>regard? We have the Media kit, it is just the decision of the MIDI hardware
>which needs to be finalised.

I know that at least one developer is porting MIDI software and interface
hardware to the Indigo right now, but not from the Mac. It's Blue Ribbon
Soundworks, who have developed products for the Commodore Amiga.

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From:         Provost Paul-Emil <provost@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA>
Subject:      Re: ADVANCE OPAC User Survey Report
              "hye_ok_park@CSUFRESNO.EDU" at Jan 7, 93 10:03 am

Citation de hye_ok_park@CSUFRESNO.EDU:
>
>                     ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLICATION
>
> Under a small faculty research grant, an OPAC user survey was
> conducted in Summer and Fall of 1992 at the Henry Madden Library of
> California State University, Fresno.  A report on the results of the
> two surveys has been compiled with a brief discussion of the
> Geac/ADVANCE OPAC installation at the Library and how the patrons used
> and viewed the system, along with some graphs and charts analyzing
> the responses.
>
> A copy of the report is available upon request from:
>
>      Hye Ok Park
>      Library Automation Coordinator
>      Henry Madden Library
>      California State University, Fresno
>      Fresno, CA  93704-0034
>
>      Or send an E-mail request to:
>      hye_ok_park@csufresno.edu
>
>
>
Hello,

I would like to receive a copy of this report.

Thanks,

Paul-Emil.

--

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From:         hye_ok_park@CSUFRESNO.EDU
Subject:      ADVANCE OPAC User Survey Report

                    ANNOUNCEMENT OF PUBLICATION

Under a small faculty research grant, an OPAC user survey was
conducted in Summer and Fall of 1992 at the Henry Madden Library of
California State University, Fresno.  A report on the results of the
two surveys has been compiled with a brief discussion of the
Geac/ADVANCE OPAC installation at the Library and how the patrons used
and viewed the system, along with some graphs and charts analyzing
the responses.

A copy of the report is available upon request from:

     Hye Ok Park
     Library Automation Coordinator
     Henry Madden Library
     California State University, Fresno
     Fresno, CA  93704-0034

     Or send an E-mail request to:
     hye_ok_park@csufresno.edu
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From:         Richard Griffin <griffinr@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Enhancement requests

         The list of enhancement requests for Geac/Advance has finally been
         tabulated (many thanks to Sylvia Volk for typing, and to Debbie
         Hackleman for helping to read through it all and offering advice). I
         will mail out the complete list to all user sites today, so that you
         all can vote on priorities. In order for me to produce a complete
         prioritized list in time for the planned Users' Group meeting in early
         March, please send me your ballots as soon as possible, but no later
         than January 29th.  Please follow the instructions attached to the
         list closely, as they are a little different from last year's.

         Note that only dues-paying members of the Users' Group will be allowed
         to vote in this process, so if you have not paid yet, please contact
         Dan Lester, the Group Secretary/Treasurer.

         For your information:

         There was a total of approximately 360 requests.

         They were submitted by the following sites:

         Boise State U                  29
         CSU, Bakersfield               27
         CSU, Fresno                    32
         CSU, Stanislaus                36
         Coastal Plain                  9
         East-West Center               7
         Humboldt State                 38
         Metropolitan Comm. Coll.       14
         Olivet Nazarene                4
         Oregon State                   96
         San Francisco State            25
         St. Charles Co. Comm. Coll.    1
         Texas Woman's                  42

         By module:

         Acquisitions                   63 (16%)
         All                            9  (2%)
         Cataloging                     90 (23%)
         Circulation                    94 (24%)
         OPAC                           76 (19%)
         Report Writer                  10 (3%)
         Reserves                       12 (3%)
         Serials                        33 (8%)
         System                         5  (1%)


         ************************************

         Richard Griffin
         VP, Users' Group
         Oregon State University
         (griffinr@ccmail.orst.edu)
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From:         cchen@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      RE: ADVANCE OPAC User Survey Report

Dear Hye:

I would like to request a copy of OPAC User Survey Report.  My address is:

Cecilia Chen
University Library
CSU Dominguez Hills
800 E. Victoria Street
Carson, CA 90747

Cordially,

Cecilia Chen
Cataloging Services
CSU Dominguez Hills  Internet: cchen@dhvx20.csudh.edu
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From:         Stephen Salbod <SALBOD1@PACEVM.BITNET>

Netters: Would someone send me the telephone number and address for
         Course Technologies. Is a new version of mystat being released
         this spring? thank you in advance for help.

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From:         "Mark, Phone 2404" <sandilands@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Course technologies/MYSTAT

.From: Stephen Salbod <SALBOD1%PACEVM.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu>
.To: Multiple recipients of list EDSTAT-L <EDSTAT-L@NCSUVM.BITNET>
.
.Netters: Would someone send me the telephone number and address for
.         Course Technologies. Is a new version of mystat being released
.         this spring? thank you in advance for help.
.

Course Technologies, Inc.
One Main Street
Cambridge, MA 02142
U.S.A.

Sorry, I don't have their phone number, but you likely can get it from long
distance information.
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Reply-To:     Bob Hayden <hayden@OZ.PLYMOUTH.EDU>
From:         Bob Hayden <hayden@OZ.PLYMOUTH.EDU>
Subject:      priorities

Before the great lull there was some discussion of goals for a first
course in statistics.  It brought to mind this bit from a paper I did
on writing for an MAA collection.  Skip it if you've seen it.

                                                Bob Hayden

***************************************************************************

I  next  asked  myself what my students were likely to need to do
with statistics after graduation. I tried to order these needs on
the  basis of how many of my students might have them. I hope you
will  pardon  my  listing  those  needs  here,  because they  are
relevant to all kinds of "book learning."

   1.  Virtually  all  of  my  students  would  need  to evaluate
       quantitative information presented to them  in newspapers,
       at zoning  board meetings, by their doctor, or by numerous
       other sources. These students need  to know what a mean or
       a  standard  deviation  is or means. They need to know the
       strengths and weaknesses of  these  numbers  as summaries.
       They need a healthy scepticism toward quantitative claims.

   2.  A smaller group of my  students would need to evaluate the
       meaning  and  propriety  of  more   technical  statistical
       techniques that  might be used by researchers in their own
       field.

   3.  A  still  smaller  group  of  my  students  might need  to
       evaluate statistical work done by subordinates or provided
       by consultants.

   4.  A very small group of my students might actually carry out
       a  statistical  study  themselves.  These  students  would
       certainly  need  to  know  how  to  pick   an  appropriate
       technique. They would almost certainly use  a  computer to
       carry out the  mechanics  of  data  storage,  editing, and
       analysis.

   5.  An even smaller number of my students might  one  day need
       to  carry  out  a  large  scale  statistical  study  while
       stranded on a desert island,  or  at  a  remote wilderness
       location, or in  some  other situation in which a computer
       would be unavailable. These students  would  need  to know
       how to perform the computations by hand.

If we look at most statistics books, and most statistics courses,
we find them organized as if  my  last group of students were the
norm.  Indeed,  the  whole  pyramid  is  inverted.  Few  textbook
problems   deal  with  meaning  or  interpretation  rather   than
computational technique.



















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