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From: sb3t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shirl G. Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Jap Crap!!!
Date: 26 Aug 1992 11:23:34 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
X-Unparseable-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:20:57 -0400 (EDT)


Two f***in' days and Jap crap has already infiltrated this bboard.

Sickening!!

-SunShine
From: root@ESD.3Com.COM (Andy Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Jap Crap!!! (DEFINED)
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:41:32 GMT

grant@panhed.psc.edu (Shirl Grant) writes:

>Most of us have ridden a jap bike one time or another anyway.  But the
>discussion of these bikes belong elsewhere.

>- -SunShine

rec.motorcycles.jap.crap

Anybody want to RFD it?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: mack23@avalon.eecs.nwu.edu (Chris Walsh)
Subject: Re: Jap Crap!!!
Organization: My desk in the Tech building
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:04:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.192759.557044@locus.com> rich@locus.com writes:
>In article <keauxdK0hXua8DnGpC@andrew.cmu.edu>, sb3t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shirl G. Grant) writes:
>|> 
>|> Two f***in' days and Jap crap has already infiltrated this bboard.
>|> 
>|> Sickening!!
>
>Why dont we leave the snobbery and the everlasting religious battle
>between Harley owners and YamaHondaSaki owners out of this group.  Wouldnt
>it be deligtful to have a news group without Flame Wars and Name calling?
>
>Sigh...
>
>-- 
>Rich Silva
>Locus Computing Corporation		   rich@LOCUS.COM
>		  {uunet,ucivax,trwrb}!lcc!rich
>       {randvax,ucbvax,trwspp}!ucla-se!lcc!rich

Yeah!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: FXR Opinions
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 12:45:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.211956.16835@access.usask.ca> speiser@skorpio.usask.ca (SED's Russ Speiser) writes:
>  I've got a '77 Sportser 1000 and have been dreaming about owning one of the
>newer big twins for a while now.
>
>  I'm wondering what FXR owners (FXRT, FXRS, FXRC, etc.) think of these 
>bikes.  My local Harley dealer swears by them and has never personally owned
>anything else since they came out.  Others have shrugged them off as looking
>Un-Harleylike (??!?).
>
>  Personally, I love the lack of vibration, and the handling seems better
>too (at least in the FXRS).
>
>  Opinions??

Although my 82 FXR has the shovel head engine in it I really do love the
bike, it is a superslab bike meant to be taken out and run (70 to 80mph) hours
on end.  Nothing quite like it.  IMHO
--
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: mcfar@unislc.uucp (Tom McFarland)
Subject: Re: Waving!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:35:28 GMT

I've been riding off and on for almost 30 years now.  As I remember, all
the old timers used to wave at me when I started riding in the '60s.  What
a friendly thing to do.  Then, as more of us "baby boomers" started to
ride the waving seemed to vanish (almost).  My feeling was the old timers
waved and the kids just went fast not knowing the brotherhood of the road.

I guess we learn from example and experience.
-- 
Tom McFarland                 | {cs.utah.edu, hpda, sun, uplherc}!unislc!mcfar
Unisys (SEPG)                 | mcfar@unislc.slc.unisys.com
322 North, 2200 West   D1V03  | (801) 594-4169
Salt Lake City, Utah 84116    | (801) 594-6708 Fax
From: wapembe@afterlife.ncsc.mil (William Pemberton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Why do Harlies make so much noise?
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:30:49 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Not sure how to take the following, so I will approach it from two 
angles; sarcasm and a serious question.  Please be patient if the
first is not the intended tone.  :-)


In article <1870c3INNi4b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
>
>I've always wondered about that.  Are they loud because:
>
>1) Harlie riders like to be obnoxious.
>
If I wanted to be obnoxious, I'd fart.

>2) To scare old ladies.
>
haven't scared any yet but maybe I'm not trying hard enough.

>3) To get better gas mileage.
>
GAS MILEAGE???  If I can afford a harley, I can afford the gas.

>4) To go faster.
>
No, you don't get a jet effect from the drag pipes.

>5) So you don't hear that piston slap as much.
>
Not as much as when you bang your old lady. :-)

>6) Harlie engineers were never made aware of the invention of the muffler.
>
Harley engineers new about the muffler. They live in WI where its cold
and they need something to protect their necks from the cold.
>7) None of the above.
>
Enough said

>8) All of the above.
see 7

=======================================================================


Now, the real reason I run drag pipes is to make some noise so that
cagers will be a little more aware of me.  Dosen't always work but I
figure it's worth a shot.  I run 2" drags on a '85 FXWG.  A real nice,
mellow sound.  I can hear the crickets over my bike's noise when riding.
I think this is much better than hearing whiny (sp?) jap crap screeming
over a hill a quarter mile away.  
-- 
wapembe@afterlife.ncsc.mil      "Wrong word. FACT!"  John Wayne
73 de ka3yyr cul
From: vito@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (daniel.b.vought)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Chroming, powder coating, lower ends
Keywords: $$$ ???
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:00:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug25.022857.7035@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> dormont@spot.Colorado.EDU (DORMONT WILLIAM  M) writes:
>Great to see this new group!  After 8 long years of waiting (after I sold 
>my '76 Sportster), I just bought a '79 Superglide basket case.  I am so
>excited about building it, I can hardly stand it!  I will have LOTS of 
>questions as I go:
>      First: How much does chroming cost? My rocker covers need it. Is it
>worth it to rechrome, or should I just buy new ones?
>      Second: Is powder coating mucho expensive? I want to do this to the 
>frame.
>      Third: What is a reasonable price to have someone renew the lower end
>bearings, and possibly balance the crank assembly?
>
>  This bike is basically stock in appearance (I may put a fatbob tank on it),
>and has a 4 3/4" S&S flywheel set. At .050 over, I calculate 91 cu. in. 
>I have the stock (74 in.) flywheels, but I think I'll go for the stroker.
>   Any info via posts or email will be greatly appreciated.
>
>                       Denny Powers
>                       c/o dormont@spot.colorado.edu 

   The best thing do for chrome work is to get everything done at the          
   same time. My guy charges $40 set up fee wether it's a single screw
   or the whole engine. Also there are different types of chrome, make
   sure you get high quality (read more expensive) because it's alot
   of work get the parts on and off plus gaskets and stuff plus another
   $40 set up fee!


   Daniel V                A man with a taste in bikes that makes his wallet
                                               cringe.
   
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:14:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Chroming, powder coating, lower ends
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley

dormont@spot.Colorado.EDU (DORMONT WILLIAM  M) writes...

>      Second: Is powder coating mucho expensive? I want to do this to the 
>frame.

The place I went here charges by the ovenfull.  They want $50 for half
an oven and $75 for a full one.  Their small oven is about 4' x 2' x 6'.
I went in with a guy doing a bicycle frame and several small parts.  I
did the bolt heads, footpegs/brackets, levers and a custom
sissybar/backest I'd made.  I was very pleased with the way the stuff
wore.  Bungee hooks/cords did not wear through in 3 years (50k miles) of
use.  The footpegs wore very evenly, no chipping/cracking.  Also
impressive was when I had an accident and the bent parts (some fairly
severely) didn't show any signs of cracking.  Powercoat is great stuff!

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Dealing with the Dealer
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:34:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.002240.12570@afterlife.ncsc.mil> wapembe@afterlife.ncsc.mil (William Pemberton) writes:
+	3. My preference is for tubular style locks.  There is a lock
+	made by ???? that is a disc.  Harder to pick and harder to cut.
+Like I said, these are just my thoughts and my thoughts alone.  

The lock you are thinking of is: ABUS Disc Lock.

____________________________________________________________________________
	You're never too old to become younger -- Mae West
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: rxm8@po.CWRU.Edu (Ron Moritz)
Subject: Re: Some questions from a complete neophyte
Reply-To: rxm8@po.CWRU.Edu (Ron Moritz)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:14:29 GMT


In a previous article, badger@wixer.cactus.org (Badger) says:

>First, I have a growing desire over the last few years to own a Harley. I want
>a highway touring bike. If I'm starting to read the jargon right, and correct
>me if I'm wrong <that's one of the reasons I'm writing this>, then I want a
>"Big Twin" with "full dress", wide front end, big tank, bags and faring. I

You want an Electra-Glide (four versions exist from the basic Electra-Glide
sport to the Ultra-Classic; you can also get the cop version).

>don't want a Sporster, but I probably do want a rubber mount engine and a
>Softtail rather than a Hardtail, right?

Wrong!  Yes, the Electra-Glides are rubber mount, but Softail is a rigid
mount enegine and different (non-touring) styling (a cruiser).  Hardtails
are not manufactured (these are classics and expensive these days unless
you plan on restoring one).

>Second, Should I buy New, or Used? What should I look out for if I'm buying
>a used Harley? Should I buy from individuals or dealers with used bikes? If
>I buy new, what is the general reputation of Harley dealers? Are they just
>out to make a buck, like almost all new car dealers, or are they interested
>in getting someone, like me, who doesn't know much, a bike that will be what

New or used, expect to pay a premium.  Dealers will not negotiate on the
bike, but they may give you a break on accessories.  Like all purchases,
keep visiting dealers until you learn all there is to learn (ask lots of
questions on the net) and you find one you are happy with.  As far
as used, good quality H-D used go faster than butter melting on a hot
day.  Unless you've got some mechanical abilities, your better off new.
-- 
Ron Moritz (rxm8@po.CWRU.Edu)
Associate Director / Information Technology
Case Western Reserve University
DoD #1992
From: v058l789@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Jap Crap!!!
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:25:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug26.210435.27423@eecs.nwu.edu>, mack23@avalon.eecs.nwu.edu (Chris Walsh) writes...
>In article <1992Aug26.192759.557044@locus.com> rich@locus.com writes:
>>In article <keauxdK0hXua8DnGpC@andrew.cmu.edu>, sb3t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shirl G. Grant) writes:
>>|> 
>>|> Two f***in' days and Jap crap has already infiltrated this bboard.
>>|> 
>>|> Sickening!!
>>
>>Why dont we leave the snobbery and the everlasting religious battle
>>between Harley owners and YamaHondaSaki owners out of this group.  Wouldnt
>>it be deligtful to have a news group without Flame Wars and Name calling?
>>
>>Sigh...
>>
>>-- 
>>Rich Silva
>>Locus Computing Corporation		   rich@LOCUS.COM
>>		  {uunet,ucivax,trwrb}!lcc!rich
>>       {randvax,ucbvax,trwspp}!ucla-se!lcc!rich
> 
>Yeah!

	How 'bout we remember that its not what you ride, but THAT you ride.

						Ethan
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Jap Crap!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:42:28 GMT
Distribution: usa

moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:


>I've got a Concours all Jap, nothing American except the license plate, and 
>a '48 EL, all USA, no Jap, unlike the majority of the Harleys roling around 
>today. Sorry but I like them both. The only problem is I get pissed off 
>when I don't wave to myself.

Ahhh, a man of taste! :{)  Sorry, but my Sporty has some parts on it that
are manufactured on other shores...

*********************************************************************
'86 Concours.....Sophisticated Lady            Tom Dietrich             
'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES*!^^^^^^^^^^^^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
e-mail txd@Able.MKT.3Com.COM                   Ma Bell (408) 738-8301
Disclaimer: 3Com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this.

*********************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder)
Subject: NY Rte 17 sucks
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:34:01 GMT
Reply-To: heff@ki.ch.apollo.hp.com (God of Thunder)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories


I rode Route 17 across NY in July, and it sucked. The road is concrete
blocks with major bumps between blocks - my spine was screwed for days.

Anybody have a better way to get from Boston to Binghamton in under 7 hours,
and on a fun road at the same time?


Jeff Oesterle

'82 Yamaha Vision 550
DoD #6892
================
"No, I don't know that atheists should be consedered as citizens, 
nor should they be considered patriots.  This is one nation under God."
                                         - George Bush
<choke> <cough> Say WHAT?!?!?!?
================

(Disclaim, disclaim, disclaim.)
From: kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD #106))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:54:19 GMT
Reply-To: kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD #106))
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Aug31.213525.12831@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>no helmet laws in colorado.........maybe we should get one
>so that all these californications would stop moving here

Yea, that'd work.  Too many californicators here.  Heck, we just went
to 7 digits on our number plates, there's so many people movin' here.

I'm gonna write all 100 legislators (some are my best buds) and ask them
quickly pass this law next session.  Heck, maybe I'll call Guv. Romer
and ask for a special session...

-- kpm
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews)
Subject: Re: Winter Storage in Boston Area
Originator: matthews@ajsh
Organization: JILA, University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:37:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.232301.380@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>
>winter...winter...winter... sorta rings a bell, but i still can't 
>place it.  could you please define these technical terms when you
>use them in a post?

Reminds me of a story, perhaps apocryphal, involving the first water-cooled
Spagthorpes to be exported.  Many engine seizures were reported before
an astute owner noticed that the cooling system relied on an external
supply of (rain) water.  The factory issued an accessory water tank for use
in the abnormal weather found over the rest of the globe, a feature
quickly dubbed the "St. Bernard Option" by the motorcycling press.
-- 
-Alex Matthews (matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu)
DoD #0010   
"It's too pure, too unrefined."  - Lance Holst, August '91
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:22:26 PDT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <16110202@hpsad.sad.hp.com>, frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes:
> 
>> are, and where you ride.  A small woman living in the city will do fine
>> with a 125; while a 5'10 amazon who lives in Nowhere, Texas and has to

i started to flame you (whoever you are, nameless you shall remain)
for this the first time, and frank inspired me to do it. 

even if you're tiny, 125cc won't be doing you any favors.  the frame
will be just as large as if you had more power, but it'll be way
underpowered for manuevering in city traffic.  don't get anything
smaller than a 250.

> Good advice accept for the 125cc part.  You have never driven in Boston.
> Get at least a 250cc bike.

250cc IF you don't plan to ride anybody around on a regular basis. if
you have a kid or an SO who will be riding with you a lot, get a
350-400cc and plan to spend money on a second set of helmet, gloves,
boots, and leather jacket. 
 
-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
From: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (Jack Reed)
Subject: Advice wanted on defending yourself in court
Keywords: law, courts
Reply-To: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:49:59 GMT

Howdy all,

Concerning a subject that is near and dear to most of our hearts (our wallets),
I'm interested in starting a thread concerned with defending yourself in
court against speeding tickets. I'm scheduled to fight mine in late October and
would like to hear from others concerning dress (I don't have the legs for it
so that's out), demeanor, technique, books to consult, methods (such as how to
serve a subpoena on a trooper without getting shot), etc.

I got a 67 in a 45 that would have amounted to $109 had I pled guilty. I'm 
fighting it on the basis of the mass of power lines that parallel the road I
was on. I believe he was using X-band. The trooper was well versed in the cali-
bration procedures, but what's in doubt is when calibrations were performed on
the gun at the lab as well as the speedometer, since the gun uses the vehicle's
speedo to arrive at the target vehicle's speed. I also plan on calling into
question the trooper's training in the use of radar and when he last attended
a refresher. Oh yeah, that 67 in a 45 is worth *6* points.

If you can add anything to this line of defense or have been successful with
other methods, I'd love to hear about them.

Jack

OBTW - I've already picked up a copy of "Beating the Radar Rap" and will 
probably use them as a primary resource unless someone has something better.





Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy!!!
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:57:45 GMT

rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.050404.18943@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>>If "motorcycle" oils are such wonderful stuff, why don't the
>>manufacturers require, or even suggest, that they be used?

>	Because motorcycle manufacturers are in the business of
>selling motorcycles!

And what business are the companies that sell "motorcycle" oil in? If
you're gonna be paranoid, at least be consistant. :-)

>  They could tell you to use top quality oil
>and change it every thousand miles but then your engine might last
>200,000 miles and you wouldn't have to buy another bike.
>If they tell you to use regular car oil and change it every 8000 miles
>then your engine needs a rebuild by 50,000 and you'll probably just junk
>it and buy a new bike.

>	Okay so I made up all the numbers but you get the idea.

I get the idea you like "motorcycle" oil, and are trying to justify the
cost to yourself. My '78 GS1000E spec'ed oil changes every 2000 miles,
and my '91 FJ1200 calls for them at 3800 (I do it every 2-3K). The GS
has had a variety of "car" oils over the last 50K miles, and seems to be
doing fine. The FJ has been running Mobil-1 since it's been broken in,
only 20K so far, but I'll post a report in another 80K miles.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More reserve switch questions
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:23:09 GMT
Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems. Daytona Beach, Florida

In article <1992Aug26.145130.7837@cs.cornell.edu> chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman) writes:
>jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski) writes:
>
>>>> Yep.  There are two tubes in the bottom of the tank that carry the gas
>>>> out of the tank into the engine.  One is taller than the other, this is
>>>> the one normally selected by the petcock (the valve that switches from
>...
>>Whhhelll... that's nice and dandy. Now for the advanced question: how does
>>the reserve work on the original FZ750, 700's, Fazers (I think) and maybe 
>>others. I'm talking about the ones with an electronic switch for reserve - 
>>no double tubes in the tank. 
>
>Then there is the vacuum powered valve used by Suzuki: only two
>positions, reserve and on. When the engine is running, engine vacuum
>(via an extra vacuum line) sucks the valve open and gas flows from either
>the reserve or main tank. When the engine stops, the valve closes, so
>you don't have to turn it off manually. 

Funny you should mention this. I've already complained about my fancy-shmancy
FZ reserve switch (look above), let's now move on to my GS (Suzuki that is)
petcock. What you have described above works great _as long as_ the little
piece of shit membrane is fairly new and does not let the vacuum (well air, 
actually) past it . Once that happens, the valve will not open. The other 
possibility is for the spring to wear out and the valve to remain always open - 
as in when you remove the gas tank (which is what has happened to me) for 
a tune up. Then you either drain the tank, plug the fuel line or put a longer 
line on the petcock and rise its free end above the fuel level in the tank. 
Another dandy, "high-pro-glo, super-duper, extra-protection" solution to 
a simple problem of: OFF, ON, RESERVE. On the other hand, my two Hondas
have simple three position petcocks; they require me to _reach_ for the petcock,
_then_ select a position - all this labor. But you know what; I never had 
a single problem with them - they are simple and they work. Kinda makes
you wonder how come Honda is the best selling Jap ^H^H^H^H Japanese motorcycle
company ?:-) How dare they to make something simple _and_ working in this age
of high-tech.

Jerry S.

BTW, has anybody else wondered how they came up with a name for petcock?
Let's see: petcock...pet-cock...I don't get it.
From: brian@zx11.Cactus.Org (Brian Murfin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Automatics
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:52:41 GMT
Reply-To: brian@zx11.Cactus.Org (Brian Murfin)
Organization: NOT

In article <64486@cup.portal.com> zx11!chinacat!balkan!natinst.com!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!nntp1.radiomail.net!portal!cup.portal.com!Bob_BobR_Retelle Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>(you *can* shift manually between ranges
>while riding.. same foot lever, just no clutch).
>

I have been talking to several people on the street who claim that it
will not harm the bike at all to shift without using the clutch.  Is
this true?  They say to quickly roll of the throttle just a hair, poke
it up a gear, and roll on.  I believe they call this a "power shift".

It sounds like a bad thing to do to my bike.  Does anyone have any 
experience shifting this way?  Did/Will it hurt the bike?


I love the porch,
The porch is nice & cool.
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