From: cassie@worf.nas.nasa.gov (Cassandra L. Baldassano)
Subject: Re: History vs. dreams
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 18:04:37 GMT
Reply-To: cassie@worf.nas.nasa.gov (Cassandra L. Baldassano)

In article <1992Sep8.160511.172@pbhya.PacBell.COM>, whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) writes:
|> [I'm going to address a single point in a posting that made a variety
|> of interesting points.  --whh]
|> 
|> In article <3416@creatures.cs.vt.edu> jtn@nutter.cs.vt.edu (Terry Nutter) writes:
|> >For another instance: sleeping and loud reveling.  The many, many people
|> >wandering Pennsic and baying loudly at the moon at 3 and 4 AM probably did
|> >not think of themselves as deliberately stepping on what other people were
|> >trying to do; but the fact remained that there were nights when a relatively
|> >light sleeper was simply screwed.
|> 
|> While I can understand (as well as anyone who has never been there)
|> that solving this particular problem is a whole class of problem in
|> it's own right at an event the size of Pennsic, it is--at
|> least--*treatable* at smaller events.  One just gets a little tired of
|> the continual work it takes to beat it into submission.
|> 
|> In the West, the problem comes and goes.  The general rule here is
|> that after midnight, things should get a lot quieter.  Some folks are
|> good about this and some aren't.  Some *camps* are good about this and
|> some aren't.  Efforts have been made to designate loud ends and quiet
|> ends of camps.  This is not all *that* effective--if only because the
|> dividing line is likely to be noisy even on the (nominally) quiet
|> side.
|>  
|> On the whole, the policy sort of works, but it doesn't work well
|> enough.
|> 
|> 	--Hal
|> 
|>         Hal Ravn, Province of the Mists, West Kingdom
|>         Wilson H. Heydt, Jr.,  Albany, CA 94706,  510/524-8321 (home)
|> -- 
|> Hal Heydt                    |    "Boycott Time-Warner"
|> Analyst, Pacific*Bell        |         --J. Danforth Quayle
|> 510-823-5447                 |    "... kill all the lawyers."
|> whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM    |         --William Shakespeare

I confess, we were one of these problem households in the West (I believe
we have solved our problem). Our household (house of Odla Horde) is
relatively new (2.5 years old) at the West's XXV Beltane Celebration we
got quite noisy and were told to quiet down in no uncertain terms (which
we did, but we shouldn't have to been told by Royal Command to do so.) We
had a meeting in the household that we would try to keep our noise level
down and at midnight, to keep the noise level down to a speaking level.

The following June Crown, we were all up telling stories way into the wee
hours of the morning (3:00 am) and behold the Prince of the Mists walks
into our camp. He said something to the effect "I didn't expect to find
anyone up, but your light was on, you guys are really quiet" I politely
responded that we didn't have to be loud to have fun.

I don't know if our reputation has improved or not. The pirates most
inevitably set up the encampment close to ours :) And boy are they noisy.
Luckily I can sleep through lots of noise (I used to live across the
street from a hospital which has a helicopter pad and a fire station down
the street).

In service,
Euriol of Lothian
Province of Southern Shores, West Kingdom