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From: rolf@geoserv (Rolf Wilson)
Subject: Raymond Ewry - 10 gold medals
Reply-To: rolf@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:28:25 GMT

The man who won 10 gold medals (8 if you do not count the games of 1906)
was Raymond C. Ewry, born October 18, 1873, died September 27, 1937. He
contracted polio as a small child, and was confined to a wheelchair for
a time. Persistant exercise got him out of his wheelchair, and into
the Olympics. His gold medals -

Paris, 1900
   Standing High Jump      5-5   (world record)
   Standing Long Jump      10-6 1/4
   Standing Triple Jump    34-8 1/2

St. Louis, 1904
   Standing High Jump      5-3
   Standing Long Jump      11-4 7/8  (world record)
   Standing Triple Jump    34-7 1/4

Athens, 1906
   Standing High Jump      5-1 1/4
   Standing Long Jump      10-10

London, 1908
   Standing High Jump      5-2
   Standing Long Jump      10-11 1/4

His record for the standing long jump was unbroken when they discontinued
the record in 1938. He also had done a backwards standing long jump
of 9-3.

It seems likely that if the standing triple jump had not been discontinued
at the 1906 and 1908 games (the other standing jumps were done in 1912,
but not after) that Ewry would have had 12 gold medals. As it is, his
record of 10 gold in 10 attempts seems unlikely to be bettered.

-- 
Rolf Wilson     Illinois State Geological Survey    rolf@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu
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From: echeng@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Subject: Re: NBC Coverage
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:45:03 GMT

In article <Jul.30.15.25.43.1992.999@skynyrd.rutgers.edu> chuanli@skynyrd.rutgers.edu (chuanli) writes:
>
>I agree that it would be impossible to show all the medal ceremonies,
>but ALL the ceremonies NBC has showed so far were those when Americans
>winning the gold medals.  I want to see some gold medalists from other
>countries, too. Such as, Fu Mingxia of China (the youngest gold medal
>winner in this olympics). 

	Well, I caught once when they show a ceremony with U.S. only won
a silver.  Throughout the ceremony, the camera is focused on the close up
of the U.S. athelete (with tears, of course).  Not a second to show other
people, including the gold winer, not a second to see the rising flags,
etc..

	So much for medal ceremonies.


    Eddie
From: rowats@Software.Mitel.COM (Stephen Rowat)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Amateur vs. Pro (Was: Re: TripleCast Update)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:38:21 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Jul24.144952.12822@odin.diku.dk> thorn@diku.dk (Peter Tjornsted) writes:
>
>They probably have a good scolarship at their highscools, paying for their
>education. That's just another way of getting paid for your sporting ability.
>
I think you misunderstand the term high school as it applies in 
North America.  One attends high school in NA between the ages
of 13 and 18 (give or take) and it is free to the attendee, it 
being funded by tax dollars.  From time spent in Sweden, I believe
they used the term high school to refer to what we call college
or university, which is paid for by the student with government
aid where applicable or scholarships where awarded.

Now, if a particular school gave money to athletes to entice
their enrolment at their school, you might have a point.  I 
think this may happen in some US schools although this is
speculation on my part; I certainly doubt that this happens
in Canada.
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From: jzku_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Joeski)
Subject: Re: Barkley is a jerk...
Keywords: Barkley
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:47:31 GMT

In <yzhou.712248144@void> yzhou@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Ya Zhou) writes:

>sarwate@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sanjiv Sarwate) writes:

>>bhat@ccad.uiowa.edu (Dinkar N. Bhat) writes:

>>>In article <val.712212490@marsh> val@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Valerie Hall) writes:
>>>>That was almost a king-hit. Very cowardly and stupid. What was he trying to 
>>>>prove? He should have been sent off right then and there. There was no need
>>>>for such and act of naked aggression against the poor Angolan fellow.
>>>>

>>>The "Dream Team" can get away with anything and everything. Pack a bunch
>>>of jerks with oversized egos into a team, and what else will you get?
>>>Bull shit!

>>>Dinkar

>>Don't condemn the entire U.S. team because of what Barkley did.  Barkley was,
>>unfortunately, just being himself.  Considering that Barkley is perhaps the 

>>team based on what he does.

>  Unfortunately, he represents the United States!

Hey, let's all just be thankful that Bill Lambeer isn't there.
Then things would be really interesting then! :-)

Joe
jzku_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
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From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: BASEBALL: day 1 results
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:41:08 GMT

RESULTS for July 26, 1992
-------------------------
Cuba  8,  Dominican R.  0
Taiwan  8,  Italy  2
Japan  9,  Puerto Rico O
United States  4, Spain 1

OLYMPIC STANDINGS
-----------------

Team 		W	L 	GB	F	A
-----------------------------------------------------
Japan		1	0	--	9	0 
Cuba		1	0	--	8	0
Taiwan		1	0	--	8	2
United States  	1	0	--	4	1
Spain		0	1	1	1	4
Italy		0	1	1	2	8
Dominican R.	0	1	1	0	8
Puerto Rico	0	1	1	0	9

Games for July 27, 1992
-----------------------
Italy  vs.  Cuba
United States vs.  Taiwan
Japan  vs.  Spain
Puerto Rico  vs.  Dominican Republic


Feel free to contact me with questions or comments!!!

==========================================================================  
Christopher Gattuso			

gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com
Motorola, Inc.
Schaumburg, Illinois

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 and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
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From: vcsc2132@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Henry Yeung)
Subject: schedule for the Olympic game
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:35:16 GMT

Could somebody tell me where to get the schedule?


-Henry
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From: ehmer@cc.swarthmore.edu (Larry Ehmer)
Subject: Track & Field
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:26:42 GMT


Does anyone know what the US record is for most top 3 finishers at the
Track & Field Trials who have not competed at the Olympics?  

Most people know by now that Kami Keshmiri had more than back problems
after the Trials.  My understanding is that his positive test was from
April.  Why didn't it surface until after the Trials?

The heartbreak kid, Steve Placencia, who finished 4th in both the 10,000
and 5,000 now has both events to choose from.  Neither Ken Martin (10K) or
John Gregorek (5K) made the Olympic standards.  I've heard Steve will run
the 10K only.  This would provide the 5K spot to Rueben Reina, who was a
bit under the weather at the trials and was the next best finisher to hit
the Olympic Standard.

Anyone know more about the women's javelin and other events where being in
the Top 3 at the Trials hasn't meant a trip to Spain?

Who is the lowest finisher at a Trials to actually make a US Olympic team?

Any more news on whether or not Patti Sue Plumer will run the 1500m at
Barcelona.  Immediately after the Trials she was considering/fairly certain
to step aside and let the fourth place finisher, Mary Slaney, get another
shot at the Olympics.  I haven't heard anything since then, but I believe
Slaney has either been sick or a bit injured and might not be able to race
anyway.


Larry Ehmer
ehmer@cc.swarthmore.edu
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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIM: Result-M's 200m Breaststroke Heat 2
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:39:46 GMT

   Men's 200 metres breaststroke
   Heat  2
 1.  Andrew Ha Rutherfurd (Hong Kong)               2:24.29
 2.  Christopher Flook (Bermuda)                    2:24.85
 3.  Joerg Lindemeier (Namibia)                     2:24.88
 4.  Abderzak Bella (Algeria)                       2:26.35
 5.  Roberto Arturo Bonilla Abril (Guatemala)       2:28.97
 6.  Glenn Diaz (Guam)                              2:34.65
 7.  Ayman Al-Enaizi (Kuwait)                       2:39.12

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From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: SWIMFINAL: Result-W's 100m Freestyle
Summary: results complete
Organization: -=[ Curtin University ]=-  Perth, Australia.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:40:01 GMT

SWIMMING - Women's 100m Freestyle Final
=======================================
 
World Record		54.48
Olympic Record		54.69

 
Gold	ZHUANG, Yong		CHN	54.64	<-- New Olympic Record
Silver	THOMPSON, J		USA	54.84
Bronze	VAN ALMSICK, Francisca	GER	54.94
------
4	HAISLETT, N		USA	55.19
5	PLEWINSKI, Catalin	FRA	55.72
6	JINGYI, Le		CHN	55.89
7	OSYGUS, Simone		GER	55.93
8	BRIENESSE, Karin	NED	56.59
 

** Results complete **
 
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From: davec@meaddata.com (Dave Colpoys)
Subject: Re: Barkeley for President! :-)
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:29:19 GMT


......and Rick Mahorn for Vice....

In article <1992Jul28.184758.57588@cc.usu.edu>, slzm9@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> X-Date: 28 Jul 92 18:17:29 MDT
|> X-Organization: Utah State University
|> Lines: 40

|>    While watching the first game of the USA's basketball team in
|> the Olympic Games I saw Barkeley pull two of the dumbest stunts
|> I have seen in awhile. First in a crowd of three Angolan defenders
|> Barkeley went up strong, made the bucket, and got the foul. But
|> that wasn't enough for Charles. He walks up to one of the
|> defenders and pushes him in the chest. He Pushes him off the playing
|> floor! I couldn't believe it. Then to make things worse a few
|> minutes later he goes by this guy that is giving up about 50 lbs.
|> to Charles. Barkeley gets the dunk then turns around and starts
|> back up the floor when passing his defender he raises his elbow
|> to shoulder level and elbows this guy in the chest as he passes
|> by. The referee calls a technical on Barkeley with which he
|> argues and is benched by Coach Daly.
|>    Now let's see what could be Barkeley's reason. It was a heavily
|> contested game and the game was close, in the heat of battle
|> his emotions got the best of him? Nope the USA was up by at least
|> 20. The USA ended up winning by more than 80 points.


     In the first case you forgot to say an out-of-control Angolan that came
     crashing down on the back of his head. He didn't walk up to him, but 
     pushed him after he fell off his back.

     In the second case he was practicing for his new Nike commercial. :-)
     (That's the one where he elbows the guy in the beginning.) 

     Lighten up folks! It wasn't that bad. Besides whatever he does he has
     to face up to the consequences so let him play his style and let refs take
     care of the rest.


 <stuff deleted>

|> Peace, but not without justice
|> zip
|> 
|> 

dave

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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: WEIGHTLIFTING: results
Summary: day 1 - 52 Kg.
Keywords: day 1 - 52 kg.
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:05:47 GMT
Expires: 10 Aug 92



Barcelona Olympics - Weightlifting
Sunday July 26 1991 - Day 1 - 52 Kg Final

All wights are in Kg. (1 kg. = 2.2 lbs.)
Nat = Nationality
Sn. = Snatch
C&J = Clean and Jerk
Tot = Total

=====================================================
    Name                Nat.    Sn.     C&J     Tot.
-----------------------------------------------------
 1. Ivan Ivanov         BUL     115.0   150.0   265.0   <=== Gold
 2. Lin Qisheng         CHN     115.0   147.5   262.5   <=== Silver
 3. Traian Ciharean     ROM     112.5   140.0   252.5   <=== Bronze
 4. Ko Kwang-Ku         KOR     112.5   140.0   252.5
 5. Halil Mutlu         TUR     112.5   135.0   247.5
 6. Gil Nam Su          PRK     100.0   135.0   235.0
 7. Humberto Rodriguez  VEN     100.0   130.0   230.0
 8. Jose Puig           ESP     100.0   127.5   227.5
 9. Atsushi Irei        JPN     100.0   122.5   222.5
10. Badathala Adisekar  IND      97.5   125.0   222.5
11. Alvaro Ramos        NCA      95.0   125.0   220.0
12. Asela Wijewickrema  SRI      95.0   117.5   212.5
-----------------------------------------------------
Eliminated:
Zhang Zairong           CHN     115.0
Sevdalin Minchev        BUL     112.5
Hiroshi Watanabe        JPN
Enosh Depthios          INA
Kim Myong Sik           PRK
------------------------------------------------------
Injured:
Genc Barkici            ALB
======================================================

Tomorrow is the 56 Kg. competition

    --mack

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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Codes for Countries
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:16:11 GMT
Organization: Chevron

>>You're not the only one confused with all those codes; Eurosport
>>english commentators talked about Libyan swimmer Sunday and then
>>thought he was from Liberia...actually he was from Lebanon (his
>>country code was LIB). In result list they show flag too,
>>that's where I could identify  his real home country...another
>>swimmer was thought to be from Solomon Islands when his code
>>was SLO. Well, that should have been easier case, it's Slovenia
>>as anybody watching ski jumping during Winter Olympics should know :)
>
>Another trick I use when confused is to look at the athlete's name.  In
>one case, my first impression upon seeing MON was to think "Mongolia".
>                                          ^^^
>Then I saw his name was Francois something, and adjusted my thinking to
>Monaco.  

Its obviously the Jamaican nationals, Mon!

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From: evan@hpl.hp.com (Evan Kirshenbaum)
Subject: Re: fairness
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:42:34 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

In article <1992Jul28.214223.11275@m.cs.uiuc.edu> caplan@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Joshua Caplan) writes:
>Look I'm American.  I want Americans to win as many golds as they give out at
>these olympics.  I love the dream team.  I like watching swimming and
>diving.  But I can't believe how partisan NBC is being, almost to the
>point of manipulation.  When I used to watch the olympics the
>awards presentation consisted of THREE people and THREE flags.  On NBC
>(prime-time, I didn't spring for the other stupidity) if an American

I did (at least part of it), and I've been impressed by how much more
evenhanded it has been (or was on Sunday, at least).  Part of it is
because they don't control the feed, so they can't focus on the
Americans, but I did notice them trying to be nonpartisan.  The one
time I noticed an announcer way "we" (referring to the athletes), he
immediately corrected himself ("or rather, I should say, 'the US
team'").  I was quite impressed.

I'm not saying it's perfect: the few interviews they do (in the
studio) that I saw were of Americans, and they spend more time talking
about Americans than others during swimming, diving, and gymnastics,
but it is a *lot* better than I have seen.

While I'm here, I have a question about the international feed they're
using: who does the graphics?  I've noticed that all of the atheletes
are identified "given-name surname", even those from countries that
use the opposite order.  The announcers have been using the correct
order (although I did catch one use "last first" for a Japanese
swimmer--probably confused by having to reverse all the Chinese and
Korean names), and that's the common way to do it in America, so I
doubt if it could be NBC.  Also, in the women's gymnastics
competition, the graphics consistently referred to the "assymetric
bars", while everyone I know calls them the "uneven parallel bars".

Evan Kirshenbaum
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From: wouter@cwi.nl (Wouter Mettrop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SOCCER: Results Pool B
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:53:38 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

# = number of matches played
W = won
D = draw
L = lost
P = points
F = goals for
A = goals against


Group B
=======

Ghana - Australia  3-1
Denmark - Mexico  1-1

Mexico - Australia  1-1
Ghana - Denmark  0-0

Matches 30-7:

Mexico - Ghana 1-1
30. Rotllan 1-0
84. Ayew 1-1
Yellow cards: Cadena, Delgado (Mex), Asare (Gha)

Denmark - Australia 0-3
32. Markovski 0-1
60. Mori 0-2
75. Vidmar 0-3
Yellow cards: Jensen, Helveg, Molnar, Tofting (Den),
Murphy, Slifkas, Zelic (Aus)


Final positions:
                   # W D L  P   F A
                   ================
>>Ghana            3 1 2 0  4   4-2
>>Australia        3 1 1 1  3   5-4

  Mexico           3 0 3 0  3   3-3
  Denmark          3 0 2 1  2   1-4
  
Ghana and Australia play in quarterfinal matches.
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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: copyrighting (was Re: updated event times?)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 12:41:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.030303.22314@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer) writes:
|> 
|> >I realize I am getting off track with the purpose of r.s.o,
|> >but it would help if I could hear a final decision on whether or not
|> >it is ok for me to post stuff from Clari.sports.olympics, such as the
|> >event times.
|> 
|> MY impression is that event times, medalists, scores, records set, etc.
|> are FACTS and therefore in the public domain.  You can't copyright
|> "George Bush was President of the United States of America on
|> July 24, 1992".  You MIGHT be able to argue that Clari.sports.olympics
|> could copyright the FORMAT they present the information in, but
|> the information itself can NOT be copyrighted.

A copyright is just what it says. It gives the holder the right to control all
copies of his document. The facts have nothing to do with the copyright. But
the actual act of reproducing the document is prohibited. There is one company
which when trying to get around Macintosh copyrights, had one group of engineers
describe the workings of the code, right it down in qa notebook, and then have
another group of engineers implement them. This has not been challenged yet, so
if somebody actually wanted to, they could sit down at two computers side by
side, have one read out the Clarinet message out loud, and the other type it
into his/her computer and then post it. This sounds stupid but will be true
until the next court case. The bottom line though, is that you can do anything
with the facts you want, you just can't copy (or retransmit) the contents.

Jason W. Solinsky
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From: you@taligent.com (Lawrence You)
Subject: Re: Moving images
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:33:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.191806.27512@mercury.unt.edu>,
danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Danny Faught) wrote:
> 
> I noticed the strange video effects during the gymnastics, too, and it
> looks similar to an effect seen on video phones. ....
> The reason I made this connection is
> because I only noticed the effect when the gymnasts were moving rapidly.
> ...
> Just speculation.

In article <159iejINNahr@agate.berkeley.edu>,
mccallum@fluorine.cchem.berkeley.edu (Mike Mccallum) wrote:
> ...
> Isn't this the same thing as the 'super slo-mo' cameras...?

Let me speculate, too.  While filming the gymnasts' motions, I noticed
that there was something unnatural about the way it looked.  But if
you see the same clip in super slo-mo (call it SSM), it looks great.
My theory is that in order to achieve SSM, you must use a high speed
(electronic) shutter that goes at a much higher rate, like at least
3X or 4X.  Because the shutter is faster, each frame shows a smaller
amount of motion.

In order to play back those images (on tape or real time), you
have to cut out all but every third or fourth frame.  If you've
seen older computer graphics before they did blurring, it's sort
of the same effect.

Now will someone who knows tell what's *really* happening?

-Lawrence

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