From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: RSS (Silent revolution in EDUCATION SYSTEM)
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 13:00:35 GMT

To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: RSS ( MP Government's Silent revolution in Education)

In article <1992Sep5.214840@IASTATE.EDU> you write:
>In article <1992Sep5.170704@IASTATE.EDU>, porayath@IASTATE.EDU (Rajiv Porayath)
>writes:
>> In article <1992Sep4.173157@IASTATE.EDU>, jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan)
>> writes: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > The point is whether the Indian culture being projected,which the RSS
>equates
>> > with Hindu 'culture',includes only the non-religious part of Hindu culture
>or
>> > population. I've got no problem if they mean the cultural aspects of Indian
>>                                       
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > civilization but that is not the sense which is being projected. In any
>case
>>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> > I don't see what is so un-Indian, so culturally "un-Hindu" about today's
>> > Indian society. If their vision encompases the muslim culture, the sikh
>> > culture,
>> > the parsee culture, the buddhist culture ... then where's the need for a
>> > renaissance? What we have today is the Indian 'Hindu" culture they seem to
>> > be so desperately seeking.
>> > If their vision is not encompassing (which at least a large number of
>muslims
>> > appear to believe) then what is different from the 'cultural renaissance'
>> that
>> > the Muslim League or the Jamaait-e-Islami seeking for the muslim community?
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Javed.
>> 
>> 
>>         Unless we agree on the word cultural aspects of Indian civilization
>> this discussion will not yield any conclusion.What I gather from the cultural
>> aspects of Indian civilization means the culture of Indian society dating
>back
>> to BC before the advent of either islam or christanity.This goes back to the
>> vedas,gita,ram,Krishna,buddha ,mahavir,ashoka etc.All of which originated in
>> India and flourished here.I do not include the culture that developed
>elsewhere
>> and made its way to India.
>> 
>> RAJIV
>
>
>No one has any problem about knowing one's civilisation and even perpetuating
>what they consider good values. But the question arises as to why is the
>civilisation of that era packaged into the great "Indian (Hindu) civilisation"
>and being presented as an entity totally different from the 'Indian
>civilisation' of today. What we have today is a continuation of that
>subcontinental civilisation, which obviously has changed over this period and
>will continue to change. The RSS-BJP, Muslim League and the Nazis base their
>quest for an utopian society on the premise that if the glorious past can be
>recreated it will result in the freeing of the people from the clutches of the
>'degrading' values that they have acquired today. As history has shown it only
>results in a mental-straitjacket with disastrous results.
>
>--Javed.

   There is no packaging. The present is different from the past, and
   they are trying to remove those changes which are trying to undermine 
   this culture. 
   They are trying to CLEANSE this GANGA, removing all the weeds and 
   poisons that corrupted and diverted its direction.

   Muslim League and Nazis may base their quest for an Utopian society,
   but the Ideals which these people are trying to propogate are still
   valued, and are viewed very high by an average Indian. Whether it 
   is RAMA RAJYA, ultimate devotion to one mother land, and other HINDU ideals. 
   AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONLY AFTER DEGRADATION OF THESE VALUES, 
   DID THE PRESENT ARISE.
   
   So in case of Muslim League the results may be disastrous as they are trying
   to create some thing not even practical, where as for INDIA its HISTORY 
   stands an evidence to these values. 

         UTOPIAN wrong. HISTORICAL right.

   Changes are fine, but the Principle and values cannot change.  

-Indu.
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