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From: chyang@silvercornish.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: Prevent Defense
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 15:42:29 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: washington's defense, a question
Originator: chyang@silvercornish.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Oct7.210506.6096@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
> 
> On the the subject of defense, I was wondering what defense Washington uses
> exactly. I have only seen one or two Washington games on TV, and then I was
> only really half watching...not paying too much attention to details. People
> keep saying that they use an eight man front, I was wondering if that was
> just a 3-4/4-3 defense with the LB's brought up on the line, or if it was the
> "2 layer defense" recently devised (1991 I think) to stop the high powered
> modern offenses. I'll diagram the 4-3/3-4 defense and the two-layer and maybe
> some net-expert can tell me exactly which UW uses.

	The eight man front is exactily what the name suggests.  The defense 
lines up like they are trying to stop a 3rd and inches or goal line defense.
The differences is that this formation is used on every play.  However the 
defensive philosophy is not to PREVENT the offense from moving the ball, BUT
to attack the offensive scheme itself.  It is sort of like "Offensive Defense".
What they look for is the pursue and attack the point of "exchange" when the 
ball is handed off to the running back or to attack the quarterback himself.

	This defense allows the players to blitz alot.  Of course, having 
eight man in the front leave one on one coverage on the wide receivers.  
But the idea is that if you have eight man going after the quarterback at 
the same time, chances are someone WILL get to the quarterback before the 
ball leaves his hand. This main requirement for this to be successful is 
speed and lots of it.  If you don't have speed on the team.  It would fail
miserably.  

	As far as Washington goes, I do not think they can be classified 
as a true eight man front team.  The defensive scheme have actually gotten 
more sophisticated compared to last year.  The 1991 Huskies had the 
pure speed and power, so they can afford to blitz on every down.  This year,
they seem to disguise the defense a little more.  It seemed more like your
standard 4-3/3-4 defense.  The linebackers comes up to the line very closely 
and act like they were going to blitz on everydown.  It works pretty well
considering the number of talent lost from the 91' team.

	So far they have been able to consistently raise havoc on the opposing 
offense.  The way the offense is going, it looks like that defense will have
to score some point for them.

- May you favorite team win this weekend

- Chung Yang
From: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UT at Austin football
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:34:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.170839.15335@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>
>  Ahh, Mike.  Tsk.  And again, tsk.  Yes indeed, folks it is true.  The Long-
>horns do indeed have a winning record against every SWC team.  It is also true
>that have sucked rocks for all but 1 year since 1986.  If you desire to live
>in the '70's, by all means go right ahead...:-)

I don't know the definition of "sucking rocks" but I don't think a 10-2 season
in 1990 meets the rock sucking criteria.  Yes, I know... they got waxed by
Miami 46-3 in the Cotton Bowl, but they did have a hell of a season.

>  In any event, I was not knocking the Longhorns, or even their chances with OU.
>I was knocking an insulting manner of posting which makes all Texans look bad.

I was actually quite impressed with Texas' performance in the OU game.  I
would have preferred to watch the Washington - Cal game, but I did enjoy
the game.  I think Makovic will ressurect Texas football.  He did a hell
of a job up at Illinois, and with the pool of talent he's got in Texas,
don't be surprised to see UT up there with the big boys in a year or two!
Gardere is gone after this season, and the new QB was the most highly
recruited QB in Texas (maybe the nation).  We'll see...

>semper fi,
>
>Jammer Jim Miller 
>Texas A&M University '89 and '91
-- 
Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
From: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com (David Head)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: The Bowl Coalition fails yet again
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:07:56 GMT
Reply-To: dhead@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne  FL

>In article <yvonne.719098609@well.sf.ca.us>, yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee) writes:
>> In <ga7-f9B@engin.umich.edu> chyang@anaphora.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) >>writes:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >	Rose Bowl is still pretty good.  The international exposure is really
>> >really good.  The money is really really really really really really really 
>> >really really really really good. 
>> > 
>> >	Beside, PSU is joining the Pac now.  So the competition should be
>> >better.  
>> 
>> >	How about Miami or FSU join the Big Ten?  
>> 
>> Boy, where does he get his (mis)information?`

>	It was merely a suggest because people have been bickering about
>teams hiding behind the ROSE BOWL and don't want to come out to face 
>real teams such as Miami and FSU.  So I said why don't they join the pac
>and come to play these teams.


Ah, but it's not Miami or FSU who are complaining about "bias" in the polls.  FSU
already plays in a tough conference AND gets bowl freedom via the coalition at the
end of a good season.  With the Rose Bowl, Ew Dub (Washington) could be undefeated
and ranked #1 and end up having to play a low ranked team from the Big Ten.  THIS
year they might get lucky if Michigan stays unbeaten, but you can't count on a
good NC matchup.  At least the coalition has more puzzle pieces to work with and
more flexibility to place them at the end of the season.

The two biggest arguments the PAC-10'ers use with the Rose Bowl is prestige and
money.  Well, I guess I can't understand how the Rose Bowl could be any better than
any other big bowl.  To me, the caliber of opponent is FAR more important than the
bowl.  As for money, if the PAC-10 is like the ACC, the Rose Bowl winner has to
share the loot with the rest of the conference members.  When you split it that
many ways, seems to me that Washington wouldn't net THAT much more money from the
Rose Bowl than say the Fiesta could come up with for a NC matchup.

My real point is that if you truly believe your team is the best, you should be
anxious to see them against the best opponent.  Why do you think Bobby Bowden still
goes up against Miami every year?  Some might say he'd be smarter to drop them.
Anyway, until the Rose Bowl is opened up, Washington might never get the chance to
truly test themselves against the best available opponent.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami #1
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:33:12 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) wrote:
}
}Did it occur to you that they are PAC 10 teams and Washington *must*
}play them?  Washington did schedule Nebraska. Miami, on the other
}hand, schedules all their oponents.

Did it occur to you that all teams play a few creampuffs, whether
or not they are in a conference?  Miami plays Florida A&M, TCU,
and Temple.  Washington plays Oregon State, Pacific, and 
Arizona State/Oregon (pick whichever is worse this year).  Washington
tried to line up another patsy in Wisconsin, but the Badgers actually
turned out decent this year.

Miami did its best to line up a tough schedule this year (@ Penn State,
@ Iowa, @ Syracuse, Florida State, Arizona, @ San Diego State), and
the fact that they play a few creampuffs (like every other team) 
is quite irrelevant.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
         swords is no basis for a system of government!"
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Miami's whining
Followup-To: <1992Oct09.232435.131800@zeus.calpoly.edu> 
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:44:25 GMT


In article <1992Oct09.232435.131800@zeus.calpoly.edu>, aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andrejs Abolins Holderness) writes:

>Why is it that miami has to complain about everything..even in victor  y.
>Miami has chosen to be independant so that they can schedule mostly
>creampuffs...with a couple of decent teams thrown in. This assures
>them a title hunt even when they may not deserve it(last year for example)
>So until they get a conference with tough opponents each week, I guess
>we'll have to hear complaints each week whether they win or lose.         i

Excuse me, but have you been participating in one of those clue deprivation
experiments down there at Cal Tech? You know where they lock you up in a
metal capsule for twelve years and feed you nothing but old "I love Lucy"
reruns, and Radio Free Bagdad programs.

Just in case they finally let you out after all these years, it's October, the
year is 1992, the Miami Hurricanes just beat FSU (#3 in the country) and Penn
State (#5 in the country) the last two weeks. The Washington Huskies have 
played the number 23 Cal Bears at home, and they don't even travel to any
California team this year including that all time monster team of unbeatables,
University of the Pacific. Wow I'm impressed. Gee they do play 4 games on the
road this year, golly what a struggle.

Miami on the other hand played or will play such patsies on the road as, 
Iowa(#22 at the time), Penn State(#5 at the time), Virginia Tech(currently out
of the top 25), Syracuse(#14 currently) and San Diego State(another one of
those patsy west coast teams with a scat back). Yup those Canes just keep
playing losers and scum and keep right on winning. It's really a shame they
can't schedule any real opponents, like maybe the NFC East. Oh and by the way,
while you were in that capsule, the Miami Hurricanes joined the Big East
Conference and play a regular conference schedule starting next year.

I've got a question for you Andrejs, who does Cal Tech play this year d8~) ?

John "Go Canes, Go Dolphins" T.
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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:42:20 GMT

Bill Dostalik (dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct16.150952.2448@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
: >Oh yeah, when exactly *was* the last time the laters beat the cows?
:           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: It was exactly 1988.  And 1987.  And 1986.  And 1985*.  And the rip-off tie
: in 1984.
: 
:      *National Champions.

Ooooh, now I'm impressed.  I'm so sorry I ever said anything bad about
the laters...

: Bill (still hates tejas) Dostalik

Well, don't let us keep you here...
-- 
Scott Harper                       Optical Data Systems, Inc.
scott@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Organization: American Math. Society
	<ASH.92Oct15082928@ulysses.mr.ams.com>
	<1992Oct15.165243.5109@mdd.comm.mot.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:01:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.165243.5109@mdd.comm.mot.com> behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian) writes:

   >>In article <ASH.92Oct15082928@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
   >>Here's to Miami and Washington, ahead of Michigan in the polls, but
   >>behind Michigan in talent.  
   >>Go Blue!
   >>

   >  Do you have any way to back this statement up?  Michigan has more talent
   >than Miami and Washington?  Okay...  Michigan has Elvis Grbac and Tyrone
   >Wheatley!!  Now, that's a lot of talent.  If you had Desmond Howard this year,
   >then I may have given you some credit, but your statement is brash and 
   >without merit.  

   >  You just WOOFED Michigan out of contention for the MNC.  You insulted the
   >Supergoobers of both Miami AND Washington.  You're toast my friend.  It was
   >nice knowing you..  :)

   >With regards... HAH!!

   >-Behzad

Well, really, a team is a sum of the talents of all the individual
members.  SO when you mention Wheatley, you must also mention what is
probably the best offensive line in college football.  Iowa, for
instance, tried to take away the run.  Michigan merely pounded out
over 400 yards on the ground.  How many yards did Miami gain on the
ground against Iowa?  Miami's defense is a little better than
Michigan's, but Michigan's offense is much better than Miami's.
That's what I meant by more talent.  The statement about Washington is
harder to back up, so I won't.  I'll just let it stand as a woof.  But
since the woofing gods seem to have been on my side lately, I'm not
too worried.  Oops, I just offended them.  Oh well, it was fun while
it lasted.

Alan "It's just my opinion, but I'm always right." Harder
From: exustp@exu.ericsson.se (Stephen Pittner,xt-dt,x0672)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Bama vs Tenn TV
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:31:23 GMT
Reply-To: exustp@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.


   HELP!
    Can anyone tell me if this game will be carried on TV. If so who will carry it,
    what time etc....
    By the way, I'm in Dallas, TX. 


                                    Thanks,
                                    Steve
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Miss St 14, Auburn 7
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:41:05 GMT

In article <dkm2.718842101@Isis.MsState.Edu>, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:

> Some friends of mine from AU came over in their camper for the game & I spent 
> Saturday "with the enemy".  I have to say, I like the AU folks more than any 
> other SEC team.  They are friendly and have a good sense of humor.  After 
> talking with people from AU and Bama, I see why there is such an intense 
> rivalry.  It is a big cultural difference just like MSU & Ole Miss.

I'm glad you had a good time with the AU folks.  Most of the ones I know are
pretty friendly and have a good perspective.  Oh, there are a few who can be
pretty irritating, many of these didn't go to school here, but are intense
fans, who brag, scream, get red in the face, try to do their best to annoy
every opposing fan, etc.  I guess there are some of these at every school
(except at Tennessee and Alabama, where these fans are the rule, not the
exception)  <----  ;-) SSD (Standard Smiley Disclaimer)

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu
From: mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Hanley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami's whining
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:20:58 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University

In article <1992Oct09.232435.131800@zeus.calpoly.edu> aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andrejs Abolins Holderness) writes:
>Why is it that miami has to complain about everything..even in victor  y.
>Miami has chosen to be independant so that they can schedule mostly
>creampuffs...with a couple of decent teams thrown in. This assures
>them a title hunt even when they may not deserve it(last year for example)
>So until they get a conference with tough opponents each week, I guess
>we'll have to hear complaints each week whether they win or lose.         i

  Uh, last I heard Miami was in the Big East conference.  Not that
I'm a fan or anything, but that kinda shoots your whole argument right
out of the water.  Personally I hope Miami keeps winning at the
moment, that'll make Syracuse look all the better when we win :-)

-matt
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Subject: Re: Virginia WINS
Keywords: but sometimes loses 
Reply-To: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:23:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.133251.16327@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (JonaX) writes:
|> Well, well, well....Virginia is now 5-0....hmmmmmm
|> 
	Jeez, my work is never done :)

|> Up next Clemson....at Virginia....
|> 
|> Even though Clemson is coming from a big win over a small team, I 
|> think Clemson will LOOSE!!!!!    Virginia will be 6-0.
|> 
	Virginia's run defense sucked against Wake, Clemson is the best rushing
team in the conference ... Virginia 5-1.

|> Up next....North Carlolina....noooooo problem....Virginia will be |>
7-0.
|> 
	Toughest road game, Virgina is demoralized by loss to Clemson ... 
Virginia 5-2.

|> Up next....William & Mary.....cake...Virginia will be 8-0.
|> 
	W & M is one the best IAAs, often gives UVa trouble.  UVa takes them
lightly, looking ahead  to Florida State ... Virginia 5-3

|> Then FLORIDA STATE! @ Virginia.  I think Virginia will have a good
|> chance at an upset here....possibly leaving Virgina 9-0.
|> 
	Florida State, with superior speed and size at every position,
humiliates UVa ... Virginia 5-4.

|> Last two....NC State and Va Tech....

	NC State, with a vicious secondary, shuts down the UVa passing game and
uses its own balanced offense to put the game away.

	Va Tech, the farmboys have had a bad season and take it out on their
most hated rival, UVa.

|> should leave Virginia UNDEFEATED!
|> 
|>          Go VIRGINIA.....11-0!!!!!!!!!

should leave Virginia with a LOSING SEASON!
	Go Virginia ... 5-6!!!!!!

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From: WILLIAM.S.BILL.W.ZUK@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("William S. Zuk")
Subject: Huskies Go Wee Wee
Organization: W L I
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:56:06 EST



  We interrupt the ongoing debate over who is #1, Miarmy or U-Dub,
  for this clarifying announcement:

  !    Miami does NOT play Boston College this season.     !

  This erroneous assertion seems to be continually perpetrated in
  every-other posting about Miami's schedule.  Miami DID play BC in '91.
  They WILL play BC in '93.  But NOT in '92.  OK?

  You have to wonder about the credibility of these postings based on
  such "well-researched facts".  It is recommended that in the future
  any posting discussing the upcoming BC-Miami game should simply be
  deleted.

  For the record, here are their actual remaining schedules:

           <Miami>        <Washout>

  O17        TCU           @Oregon
  O24       @VTech          Pacific
  O31        WVa            Stanford
  N7         ---           @Arizona
  N14        Temple         Oregon St
  N21       @Syracuse      @Wash St
  N28       @SDSU           ---


  And now, back to the <boring> debate.

  - Bill Zuk

  ps  -  The worst rule in college football is the "Colorado gets
         5 downs rule".  :-)

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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UT at Austin football
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:57:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamvm1.168807DFC.CBARNES
Organization: Texas A&M University

In article <1992Oct14.013451.6710@menudo.uh.edu>
   HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
 
>> Gardere is gone after this season, and the new QB was the most highly
>> recruited QB in Texas (maybe the nation).  We'll see...
>> Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
>
>  Indeed we will.  A word of warning: Highly touted QB recruits do not always
>seem to pan out.  Take it from someone who knows. :-)
>
 
Not to mention the fact that he is probably the ONLY recruit that is
better than what A&M got this year.  The horns may indeed improve
over the next couple of years (they can't get much worse), but with
A&M continuing to win the recruiting wars (at least in the swc),
he'll never *regularlly* improve that much.  R.C. has to be one of
the best recruiting coaches ever.
 
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From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: WEEKLY S.E.C. RANKINGS
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:33:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA


    S.E.C. Eastern Division Standings

             S.E.C.  TOTAL
TEAM         W L T   W L T  Last Week's Results          Next opponent
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tennessee    3 1 0   5 1 0  LOST v. Arkansas, 25-24      v. Alabama, 10/17
Georgia      3 1 0   5 1 0  WON v. GeorgiaSo, 34-7       v. Vanderbilt, 10/17
Florida      2 2 0   2 2 0  Won v. LSU, 28-21            v. Auburn, 10/17
Vanderbilt   1 2 0   2 3 0  LOST v. WakeForest, 40-6     at Gerogia, 10/17
Kentucky     1 2 0   3 2 0  --IDLE--                     at LSU, 10/17
S. Carolina  0 4 0   0 5 0  --IDLE--                     v. Miss St., 10/17

    S.E.C. Western Division Standings

             S.E.C.  TOTAL
TEAM         W L T   W L T  Last Week's Results          Next opponent
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alabama      3 0 0   6 0 0  WON at Tulane, 37-0          at Tenn, 10/17
Miss. State  2 1 0   4 1 0  WON v. Auburn, 14-7          at S.Carolina,10/17
Auburn       2 2 0   4 2 0  LOST at Miss St., 14-7       at Florida, 10/17
Mississippi  2 2 0   3 2 0  --IDLE--                     at Arkansas, 10/17
Arkansas     2 2 0   2 4 0  WON at Tenn, 25-24           v. Mississippi,10/17
LSU          1 3 0   1 5 0  LOST at Florida, 28-21       v. Kentucky, 10/17
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