From: ftsam@acad3.alaska.edu (Sergei Maurits)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: FM Sh 239, Graduates?
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:04:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1992Nov23.120424.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <By69GI.Gq6.1@cs.cmu.edu>, smir+@CS.CMU.EDU (Yury Smirnov) writes:
> In article <1992Nov23.005720.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, ftsam@acad3.alaska.edu (Sergei Maurits) writes:
> |> In article <By50Mu.Cuq.1@cs.cmu.edu>, smir+@CS.CMU.EDU (Yury Smirnov) writes:
> |> 
> |> > In article <By1F5G.F0v@cs.columbia.edu>, igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich) writes:
> |> > |> 
> |> > |> Let's see how many of us are here. I know of three except me (I mean, on this
> |> > |> net). 
> |> > |> 
> |> > |> --Igor P.
> |> > |>  
> |> > 
> |> >     My office mate Eugene is exactly a graduate of 
> |> >     239 F M Sh. A month ago we found 30 F M Sh graduate in CMU, not in CS, 
> |> >     but in ECE and, thus, completed the "Saint Trio" - 30, 45 & 239  -:)
> |> > 
> |> >     St.Yury  from  St.Petersburg
> |> 
> |> Hi there, guys!
> |> 
> |> It used to be not a Trio, but  ... oops, I don't know exactly, at least five 
> |> or six. Anyway, I am graduate of #38, Class of 1974. It was two years before
> |> the school was "united" with #30 and district high school authorities reported
> |> about the successful elimination of the half of Phys.-Math. classes (about 30
> |> students each) at Vasilievskij Ostrov and proportional increasing of "PTU". 
> |> The list of their victories: from about 20 classes in just one of the city
> |> districts (end of nineteen-sixties) to six (1976) and later to 2 (I guess, 
> |> mid-eighties).
> |> 
>    But still #11 English School heading by Makhover was very strong in Math,
>    though located in Vasilievsky Ostrov. In #45, in 8-10A we had 10 people
>    transfered from that school. Nine of them have defended Candidate Degrees
>    in Physics or Math, the tenth became GrossMaster in chess.

     Remember #24 on Srednij? It used to be English too (till 1972, I guess).
     As for Math in #11, I should ask my sister (Class of 1985). Anyway, good
     Math teacher and "F M Sh"-carriculum are the different things (dve "bol'-
     shie raznitsy"). Taking into account their load in English, I really 
     doubt it was possible to combine the same level of efforts in Math and
     Physics as well. "Spetsializirovannaya shkola" (high school with
     specialization or Honors high school) is a very presice name, IMHO.
      
> 
> 
> |> What is going on now in #30?  I know #45 & #239 are doing pretty well, the
> |> latter even change the name and became a PhM Liceum. 
> 
>    Unfortunately, along with the Len.State #45 moved to Petergoff. It was the
>    end of both. No one Leningrad citizen wished to study there any more.

     Yah, what a wise that desision to move was! They tried to create kinda
     of an "American" campus and finally got "oblastnoj VUZ".  Distance of
     40 km can be crucial even in Russia.

>    My class mates were teaching in both, they told that the level of studying
>    people was decreasing greatly every year. Beginning with 1982 #239
>    became undoubtly the strongest in Leningrad-St-Peterburg. 

     Sure thing, the fact #30 was transfered to "normal" school status (two
     classes of each school-age students starting from 7-years-old) and was
     odered to admitt kids from the local community (microraion) only or
     at least preferably, meant nothing but the end of it as a Honors high 
     school. The "permission" to continue in 9-10-th grades with intensive
     curricular could changed nothing, the key thing --gathering of gifted
     students in one place to study-- was prohibited.

                                                                My university
>    mate and graduate of #30 in 1978 became "zavuch" of #30. I was going to
>    place my older son there, but was fortunately admitted to CMU.
>
     Have you found a proper substitution in US :) ? 

> |> --Serega, AK
>  
>     Yury

      Thank you for your reply,

      Serega, AK