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From: ivory@tower.com (John E. Ivory)
Subject: Razor: Clearing some confusion
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:33:28 EST
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I'd like to clarify what I'm afraid may grow to be a misunderstanding
about our product, Razor.  A recent posting by dominick@protocol.zycad.com
(Dom Paniscotti) said...

> There was a thread recently in this group about Software Configuration
> Management Tools recently.  The final message posted listed several
> tools such as CVS/RCS, ShapeTools and Razor.  My question is, are there
> any commercially available tools that do a better job? ...

Razor is a commercially available tool.  It is new to the market, and
we have choosen to be very aggressive with our pricing, but (with all
due respect) we want to avoid being confused with public domain or
shareware products.

Rather than break 'netequette' and wasting bandwidth, I'll spare
everybody the full song and dance.  I'll leave discussion of the tool
to those who don't have such a vested interest in the product as
myself.  Initial queries by the curious can best be handled by sending
a message to 'razor-info@tower.com'.  Thanks.

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From: naiming@eng.umd.edu (Naiming Shen)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Is there an OCR 'C' library avalable for IBM/AT machine?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:50:48 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Maryland
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I'm looking for a good OCR 'C' library used on IBM machine. Any information
regarding this is welcomed.

Naiming Shen

Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: lowell@tc.fluke.COM (Lowell Skoog)
Subject: Seeking consultant for SW process assessment (PNW)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:29:30 GMT

My company is interested in assessing its software development
process using methods developed by the Software Engineering Institute
(SEI).  Our goal is an improvement program rather than just a
capability evaluation.  We seek the services of a consultant
experienced in carrying out such an assessment.  If you are familiar
with organizations that offer these services, please send me E-mail.

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From: hamlet@alan.cs.pdx.edu (Dick Hamlet)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: JOB OPENING
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:28:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6755

SOFTWARE ENGINEERING POSITION - PORTLAND STATE UNIVERSITY

The Department of Computer Science at Portland State (one of three
universities in the Oregon State System of Higher Education) has a
tenure-track position we would like to fill with a researcher/teacher
software engineer.  The position was established by a generous grant
from Tektronix, with continuing state funding.

We are interested in applicants at all levels.  A PhD is required.
Interaction with local industry (Tektronix, Intel, Sequent, Mentor
Graphics, etc.) is an important part of the job.  Teaching load is one
course/term.  Computer-systems support is more than adequate.  The
present software-engineering research group includes Sergio Antoy, Dick
Hamlet, Warren Harrison, and Ralph London.

A detailed description of the position appears in our advertisement in
the December IEEE COMPUTER (p. 77), or by e-mail from cmps@cs.pdx.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: dawe@nobeltech.se (Daniel Wengelin)
Subject: Re: Ada/2167 for Command and Control Systems
Organization: NobelTech AB
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:34:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.190009.10541@tas.com> rick@tas.com (Rick Way) writes:
>In article <1993Jan18.203651.20501@nobeltech.se> dawe@nobeltech.se (Daniel Wengelin) writes:
>> [several interesting points]
>>
>>The problem appears (IMHO) ...  
>>to be the rigidity of the 2167A approach... 
>
>I don't think rigidity is the problem.  2167A states explicitly that
>it is tailorable.  We have delivered several software products under
>2167A.  I sense the real burden in 2167A is that, untailored, it 
>requires an enormous amount of detailed technical and management
>documentation.  The contracting DoD agencies and the contractor
>should agree on the smallest subset of deliverable documentation
>that provides the agencies with the information it needs to manage
>the development and maintain the software.  I feel that each 2167A
>document is appropriate in some contracts. 

Ok, I stand corrected. I read you "The problem is that we don't focus 
enough on the tailoring, but go with it 'as is'". I buy that.


>>The European (or rather Swedish) way is to mix fixed prices,
>>contractor risk, customer interaction and insight etc.
>
>How do these ensure quality software? 
>

The quality issues are managed by customer requirements on the development
process, as usual. My point was that with increased customer and contractor
interaction and "risk-benefit sharing", the customer will have the info
to refrain from the "unnecessary" changes to the system.


>
>Respectfully, Rick Way (rick@tas.com)
>Technology Applications and Service Co


                     Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: akk@engr.uark.edu (Anil Khanna)
Subject: Extensible Software Design?
Keywords: Extensible Software Design
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:43:25 GMT

Could any one provide me reference on Extensible Software Design? What
this term mean and in what context it is used?

anil
From: ggolden@msen.com (Glenn R. Golden)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Clean Room
Date: 23 Jan 1993 03:38:31 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Dan Yurman (dyurman@world.std.com) wrote:
: This is a query on references for the subject "clean room."  It has
: been identified to one of our programmers as a statistical method for
: testing software.  We cannot find anything on it in our company's
: technical library.  If people will reply to me directly via email I will
: post a summary for the list.  Thanks.

: Dan Yurman, dyurman@world.std.com 


I, too have had interest in Clean Room.  I also understand it is 
a method of statistical testing of software, and at IBM.  Unfortunately
I know little more... except that the name Harlan Mills is associated
with it.

Good luck with the hunt...

- Glenn R. Golden  |  Global Architect @ Comshare, Inc. |  Ann Arbor, MI, USA.
  (home) ggolden@msen.com   (work) ggolden@comshare.com


Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: mcgregor@netcom.com (Scott L. McGregor)
Subject: Netcom disk failure prevents ftping Merge Ahead demo
Organization: Prescient Software, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 23:05:53 GMT

Recently, it was announced here that it is possible to anonymously ftp
Merge Ahead demo software (the tool for merging text or code) from netcom.com.
Unfortunately, due to bad karma or something, the ftp disk the netcom
service uses became corrupt, preventing ftp access to our directories.
As of this time, our directories have not been restored, and so are
still unavailable. I've been receiving many calls from co.sw-e readers who have
been unsuccessful in accessing this directory, hence this notice of
outage here.  I will post a followup here when service has been
restored. 

We reported the problem to the network service provider we use,
netcom, yesterday and we continue to work with them in hopes of
speedy restoration of service. At this time we have no ETA from netcom
to restoration. Netcom is currently our sole provider of anonymous
ftp, so until the are fixed, or we can secure a second provider
willing to provide us with an ftpable directory, on line demo
availability by ftp will be limited.  Offers of alternative locations
for making this software available are welcome.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused people.



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President			tel: 408-985-1824
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3494 Yuba Avenue
San Jose, CA 95117-2967

Prescient Software sells Merge Ahead, the tool for Merging Text or Code and
offers consulting  & training in project management and design for usability.



Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: abg@mars.ornl.gov (Alex L. Bangs)
Subject: Re: Clean Room
Summary: bibliography
Keywords: software engineering, statistics, cleanroom
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab/CESAR
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:07:48 GMT

Here's my bibliography for cleanroom; I just added the last reference
from the latest IEEE Software:

---------
Harlan D. Mills, Michael Dyer, and Richard Linger,
"Cleanroom Software Engineering",
IEEE Software, September, 1987

P. Allen Currit, Michael Dyer, and Harlan D. Mills.
"Certifying the Reliability of Software."
Transactions on Software Engineering. V. SE-12, No 1, January 1986.

Richard W. Selby, Victor R. Basili, and F. Terry Baker.
"Cleanroom Software Development, An Empirical Evaluation."
Transactions on Software Engineering, V. SE-13, No. 9, September 1987.

R. C. Linger and H. D. Mills. "A Case Study in Cleanroom Software
Engineering: The IBM COBOL Structuring Facility."  Proceedings
of COMPSAC '88, IEEE Computer Society Press, 1988.

Harlan D. Mills and J. H. Poore, "Bringing Software Under
Statistical Quality Control," Quality Progress, November 1988, pp. 52-55.

J.H. Poore, Harlan D. Mills, David Mutchler, "Planning and Certifying
Software System Reliability," IEEE Software, January 1993, pp. 88-99.
---------

Also, note that an important element of development with cleanroom is
using the box structured method for design; there are other references
for this. If you look at the last item, you will also get references for
testing and cleanroom, especially new work by Jim Whittaker.

Hope this helps,

Alex
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Autonomous Robotic Systems Group
From: marick@cs.uiuc.edu (Brian Marick)
Subject: Re: Clean Room
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:49:48 GMT

This is in addition to the references in the FAQ:

Michael Dyer, _The Cleanroom Approach to Quality Software
Development_, 1992.  

I flipped through it.  It seemed a bit sketchy, but certainly seemed
like the best place to go for an overview.

Brian Marick, marick@cs.uiuc.edu, testing!marick@uunet.uu.net
Testing Foundations:  Consulting, Training, Tools.
Freeware test coverage tool:  see cs.uiuc.edu:pub/testing/GCT.README
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: grove@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Paddy Grove)
Subject: Configuration management in C++ projects
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Transmission Product Development,
	Cambridge, UK
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:44:05 GMT

Hi,

    This was originally posted on comp.lang.c++, but someone suggested I
post it here as well:

    I guess many of you guys are working on large C++ projects for commercial
applications, so my question is:

    What configuration management tools do you use? Note that I'm not talking
about version control, although I would be quite interested in that, but I'd
like to know of any commercially-available configuration management and build
systems that handle large C++-based projects well, i.e. large numbers of
developers, several s/w components with lots of source code
inter-dependencies between components.

    It seems to me that using things like SCCS & make just doesn't do the
job. We're currently using DSEE on Apollos, which does the job pretty well,
but we're going to need to upgrade to a new platform in the not-too-distant
future.

    Any answers would be welcome, by email please, since I'm only a very
infrequent visitor to this group.

    Thanks,

        Paddy
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Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: mr@delfin.com (Mark Rosenberg)
Subject: CVS and ShapeTools experiences?
Reply-To: mark@delfin.com
Organization: Delfin Systems, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:42:57 GMT

My organization is considering using one of these two public domain packages.
I am interested to hear from others who have tried to use, are currently
using, or have in the past used either CVS or ShapeTools. I am especially
interested in:

Ease of installation and configuration for a project.
Reliability.
Ease of use on a day-to-day basis.
What features proved to be most/least useful.

Thanks in advance. I'll post a summary.
-- 
Mark Rosenberg
internet:mark@delfin.com
phone: (408) 562-1126	fax: (408) 748-1140
snail: Delfin Systems, 3000 Patrick Henry Drive, Santa Clara, CA 95054-1814
From: rss@ri.cadre.com (Rich Scire)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Configuration management in C++ projects
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:58:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1993Jan27.155815.1701
Reply-To: rss@ri.cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc.

Hi,

If you are a DSEE site and are happy with it, consider using ClearCase from Atria.
These are the same people who brought you DSEE and now do it better.

Give them a call at (508) 655-9255.

Try it, you'll like it.

Rich

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E-Mail:  rss@cadre.com            222 Richmond St., Providence RI  02903
Phone:  (401) 351-5950            FAX: (401) 351-7380
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: VAAGA@gribb.hsr.no (Vaaga, Hans Egil       7-93)
Subject: SOund effect program
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:17:35 GMT

Hi!

I don't know if this is the right group to send this letter, but 
I hope you can give me some help anyway.

I'm going to make a program in The Microsoft Windows enviroment. It's a 
tool that operates the synthesizer in a sound card (e.g. Pro Audio
Spectrum 16). It will make the card play sounds like an explosion, type-
writer click etc.

Does it exists programs like this? I'm also interested in books, magazines,
etc. that have conections to this program I'm going to make.

I hope somebody will answer me.

Hans Egil Vaaga
vaaga@gribb.hsr.no
Hans Egil Vaaga
Rogaland University Centre
vaaga@gribb.hsr.no
From: kpierce@andre.d.umn.edu (Keith Pierce)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Why is the Software Process NOT working
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:32:44 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: andre.d.umn.edu

I believe that University courses CAN teach students
industrial-strength processes, because I've been doing it.

I teach the senior project-based software engineering course at my
institution.  A few years ago I began basing the project on maintaining
a large software product. And I carried the project across terms,
requiring each class to work with the product as it was left by the
previous class.

 I adapted Jim Tomayko's model for large project teams to a maintenance
environment, creating specific roles with explicit responsibilities
that imitated best current practice. The process then required each
student to interact with other roles so that the entire team worked in
concert to complete the maintenance tasks while ensuring quality.

 Each team comprised a controller, a quality assurance manager, a
configuration manager, a test and evaluation engineer, and several
groups of maintainers. The controller received several maintenance
assignments from me, and assigned responsibility for each change
request to a maintenance group. She coordinated and scheduled the
changes, tracked progress, maintained the software change reports, and
reported regularly to me.

 The quality assurance manager conducted technical reviews of changes
and ensured adherence to both process and product standards. Under his
leadership a change control board conducted a formal review of all
changes.

 The configuration manager installed new versions and controlled access
to all of the team's products. The test and evaluation engineer
maintained the test suite and test procedures. She worked closely with
each maintenance group to ensure that they tested adequately and
followed test procedures. She signed off on each change.

 Finally, I required each maintenance group to conduct at least one
Fagan-style inspection of their proposed design.

I felt that this project gave students a good dose of reality, and
showed them how a good process can work to create high-quality,
maintainable software.

Keith Pierce, Professor			327A Heller Hall
Department of Computer Science          Phone: 218-726-7194
University of Minnesota, Duluth         FAX:   218-726-6360
Duluth, MN 55812-2496                   email: kpierce@d.umn.edu
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Department of Computer Science          Phone: 218-726-7194
University of Minnesota, Duluth         FAX:   218-726-6360
Duluth, MN 55812-2496                   email: kpierce@d.umn.edu
From: dominick@protocol.zycad.com (Dom Paniscotti)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: SCM Tools
Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:00:27 -0500
Organization: Protocol, a Division of ZYCAD Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dominick@protocol.zycad.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: hayaku.protocol.zycad.com


There was a thread recently in this group about Software Configuration
Management Tools recently.  The final message posted listed several
tools such as CVS/RCS, ShapeTools and Razor.  My question is, are there
any commercially available tools that do a better job? Basically I'm looking
for tools that impose some SCM methodology, are easy to use (possibly 
having an X windows front-end, and are extensible (can be integrated with 
CASE tools, etc.). Please E-Mail your responses to me.  If there is any 
interest, I will post a summary.
-- 
Dom Paniscotti                  internet: dominick@protocol.zycad.com
Protocol, a Division of ZYCAD   phone:    (201) 347-7900            
500 International Drive         fax:      (201) 347-0303        
Mt. Olive, NJ 07828
From: currie@teal.csn.org (Andrew Currie)
Subject: Seeking feedback on Portable GUI Tools based on Experience
Followup-To: currie@csn.org
Keywords: portable GUI, software engineering
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:50:12 GMT

Greetings,
If you have _any_ development experience with _any_ of the currently
available portable GUI tools i would really like to hear from you.
I must make a choice between such tools as: XVT, Zinc, zApp, StarView,
C++/Views, CommonView, etc. and would like to base this on more than
sales literature, simple demo apps, and magazine reviews.

Any feedback at all would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me at
currie@csn.org or call (collect) 303-938-8650. If there is interest
i will summarize my evaluation process (and these comments) and make
the results available to all interested developers.

thanks for your time,

Andrew Currie
 


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From: blbarfie@fnugget.intel.com (Sam B Barfield)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.object,comp.c++
Subject: Re: Software design tool?
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:54:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: INTEL.FOLSOM

In article <1993Jan19.155053.835@oakhill.sps.mot.com> ponder@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Carl Ponder) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a tool that can do (or come close to doing) the following?
>
>	1. Plop down a range of figures: box, circle, cloud, diamond, etc.
>
>	2. Connect these with a range of arcs: 1- and 2-way arrows, thin lines,
>	    dotted lines, thick lines, etc.
>
>	3. Allow you to label the arcs and figures, formatting the text 
>	    automatically, and expanding the figures as necessary to fit
>	    the text.
>
>	4. Allow you to pull the figures and arrows around the screen, while
>	    holding the picture together.
>
>	5. Link pictures and textual windows to the figures, arcs, and key
>	    words in the labels, so you can click on anything and get a page
>	    of explanation, or even another diagram detailing that piece of
>	    the picture

I can recommend a tool that I've been using for about two years now.  It
works with MS Windows and is called RFFlow 2.0.  It uses a somewhat non-
standard Windows interface concept, but adequately allows me to do all sorts
of diagrams efficiently.  Items 1-4 is handled with no problems except maybe
clouds.  It is easier to define 2 tool boxes (objects and commands) first 
before doing anything.  Use the locked move command to move any objects around
that are connected together.  Item 5 is somewhat supported in the way you've 
described.  I haven't tried this out yet.  You can link an object to an 
application and a file.  Clicking on this object starts up whatever application 
with whatever you want to display.  I imagine this process to be fairly fast 
after you've opened up the initial application.

The cost is ~100 bucks at your nearest mail order house.  The company that
makes it is RFF Electronics.  Hope this helps. :-)

BL Barfield III
bbarfield@hermes.intel.com
From: mick@muppet.bt.co.uk (Mick Burnell)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Delta (Difference) File Generation Algo
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:40:01 GMT
Reply-To: mick@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

In article 915@ulogic.UUCP, hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman) writes:
>In article <bkK7_Q5l@twinsun.com> eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) writes:
>>Traditional diff3 has the synopsis
>>
>>       diff3 [ options ] filename1 filename2 filename3
>
>What's the third file name for?
>

NAME
     diff3 - display line-by-line differences between 3 files

SYNOPSIS
     diff3 [ options ] filename1 filename2 filename3

DESCRIPTION
     diff3 compares three  versions  of  a  file,  and  publishes
     disagreeing ranges of text flagged with these codes:

          ====       All three files differ

          ====1      filename1 is different

          ====2      filename2 is different

          ====3      filename3 is different


Hope this helps,
		Mick.
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