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From: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Astrology, etc.
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:51:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: University of Oregon

In article <1992Jul20.115200.5489@pdn.paradyne.com>, pitchon@paradyne.com
(Howard Pitchon) wrote:
> Question: In the  last episode, the  Log Lady says  that her husband 
> brought  home the oil a  few days before he  died. I thought he died 
> the night they were  married (from an earlier episode).  Can someone 
> explain the incongruity. 

Two possibilities.
1. she called him 'my husband' in retrospect, even though they weren't
married at the time he brought the oil home.
2. another continuity glitch.

> Question:  I  have:  the  TP  Access  Guide,  The Autobiog. of Agent 
> Cooper,  LP's  Diary,  TP-Behind  the  Scenes, and Cooper's Tapes to 
> Diane. Are there any other books or tapes? 

I believe there was another book that was taken off the market after a
successful suit by L&F, but I don't recall its name.

> Also, I know  that the pilot  and the first  seven episodes are 
> available on video (any good video store can order them for you). 
> There are also collector cards. 
> Does anyone know if there are any other collectibles? and where 
> to get them? 

The true pilot is not available on tape. What is is the so-called
'Euroversion' which is 95% the same as the pilot but with an alternate
ending. It was distributed in Europe as a 'stand alone' VCR movie while the
first year was running in the US as a TV series.

The whole series (except the pilot) was available on Japanese laserdisks
(with J subtitles).

The Twin Peaks Gazette published two issues. There are numerous T-shirts (I
particularly like the TP High School) and some coffee cups. Most of this is
probably still available through the Alpline Blossom Gift Shop in
Snoqalmie. Check out the FAQ on audrey.sait.edu.au.

> Question: I read somewhere that Frank Silva (Bob) worked on  the set 
> of  TP  and  when  Lynch  saw  him,  he  knew  he  had found the Bob 
> character. Anyone know if this is true?

Yes. He was a set dresser.

-Rich Haller
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: barker@dmpe.csiro.au ( David Barker)
Subject: Twin Peaks on Laserdisc? 
Organization: CSIRO. Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:23:29 GMT

Does anyone know if the entire series and the film pilot are available
on Laser Disc (NTSC?).  If so are they in stereo and complete and where
can I mail order a copy (please include cost of the set).  The UK video 
releases are fairly cheap transfers (using economy video tape) and the
sound does not seem like stereo at all!

Please email any responses,

Thanks in advance...

David Barker
<barker@dmpe.csiro.au>
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Is ON THE AIR off the air?
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:33:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.200942.6070@athena.mit.edu> dcoufal@athena.mit.edu (David E Coufal) writes:
>
>Yeah, it was shown on channel 12 from NH on July 4. There have been a
>total of three episodes shown so far.

	Can anyone out there please post a short summary of the plot of the
third episode, and an assessment of how good it was compared to the other two?
I was busy setting off fireworks when it was on, and forgot to set the VCR...
:^(

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From: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM U.S. release,soundtrak,chess,etc.
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:32:22 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: University of Oregon

In article <14633@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the
Frog here...) wrote:
> 
> In article <BrtADu.Eu3@acsu.buffalo.edu> v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MATTMAN - RAEL IMPERIAL AEROSOL KID) writes:
> >Q5:
> 
> >for arguments sake:  who really won the chess game, Coop or Windom?
> >i say Coop because at least he's still alive, albeit in the black lodge
> 
> I don't think the game ended.  The last move was Windom taking Coop's
> queen.  I was waiting for them to reveal that Coop was playing the
> legendary "Queen Sacrifice Gambit", tricking Windom into checkmate.

Nope. What happened is that Windom detected that Coop was getting help from
someone else (Pete) and in a rage, swept all the pieces from his board and
started playing without rules.  That is, the board position at the time
would not allow him to capture the Queen legally as his next move.

So I guess it depends on whether you think Windom was correct in feeling
that Coop violated their agreement by using Pete. If so, then he Windom
wins. If not, then I don't know enough about chess to say whether the game
is forfeited by Windom's illegal move, or whether there is some lessor
penalty under generally accepted chess rules.

As far as the situation in the Black Lodge is concerned, if Coop eventually
escapes or is rescued, then he makes out better than Windom. If not, then
he may be in worse shape.  Wouldn't you rather be dead than a pawn of evil,
like Leland?

-Rich Haller
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Subject: Kyle in GQ
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:00:45 GMT

Kyle is on the cover of GQ with a reference to TP. There is a
story/interview with some TP content.

-Rich Haller
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Subject: Re: FWWM and Structure of TV Viewing
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:09:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.061102.6998@ucc.su.OZ.AU>,
garry@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Garry Stevens) wrote:
> 
> Please be patient with a newcomer to newsgroups and this particular group. 
> 
> Can anyone supply basic info on FWWM and what is On the Air?? 
> 
> Also, has anyone noticed how the structure of TV programs differs from country
> to country? I saw most of TP in the USA, and then some of the same episodes in
> Australia. The two countries put the advertisements in different places and
> different quantities in each episode, giving a slightly different feel to the
> show. Having also seen some episodes on video, I found I actually liked the ads
> being there-- it gave you a break from the density and intensity.

Lynch or Frost, I'm not sure which, was quoted as saying they liked having
the commercials to break it up.

TP was shown without commercials in the UK. Unfortunately, it was preempted
by the snooker championship while I was there.

-Rich Haller
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: mj1078@taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp (mmanuel pece)
Subject: Re: Astrology, etc.
    <rhaller-210792093914@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu>
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Tech., Iizuka, JAPAN.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:17:29 GMT
X-Bytes: 1230

In article <rhaller-210792093914@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu> rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) writes:

>   The true pilot is not available on tape. What is is the so-called
>   'Euroversion' which is 95% the same as the pilot but with an alternate
>   ending.

Which is the alternate ending of the Euroversion ?. It is not Leland ?

>   The whole series (except the pilot) was available on Japanese laserdisks
>   (with J subtitles).

Here in Japan is also available in tape. I think that even the pilot.

>>   > Question: I read somewhere that Frank Silva (Bob) worked on  the set 
>>   > of  TP  and  when  Lynch  saw  him,  he  knew  he  had found the Bob 
>>   > character. Anyone know if this is true?

>   Yes. He was a set dresser.

When the WOW (japanese channel) broadcasts its TWIN PEAKS specials (the whole
series in a 28 hours run), they included the TP Report, that is information
about the forest, the pies, the fashion etc in TP. And they also include
lots of interviews with the cast and Frost, Badalamenti, Jennifer Lynch and 
others.
Frank silva is also there, and confirms the story about how Bob was "created".
I thought that this TP Report was made in US (something like "The making of..")


Manuel@Japan
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: The ending of Twin Peaks and Windom Earle-possessed?
Organization: Clark University
Date: 29 JUL 92 14:27:17 GMT

In a previous article, 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au wrote:
>From much of my reading of alt.tv.twin-peaks, I've gathered that the
>series was `cancelled' due to lagging interest and not the fact that the
>writers/producers wanted to end the series.
> 
>Does this mean the writers had planned to continue the story on from
>Cooper's `possession' in the final episode, or did they know in advance
>that this was to be the final one so they left it here on purpose??

I believe Lynch/Frost had plenty of warning that Twin Peaks was being canned 
by ABC.  ABC was nice enough to give them two hours to "finish" the series.  
Considering several key characters were knocked off during that last episode, 
seems to me the entire two hours was written to be "the end".  The possession 
of Cooper is even more exciting than killing him off.
> 
>Another question: Someone mentioned that Windom Earle was possessed by
>Bob at some stage - was this so? Or did Windom just go crazy after the
>`shooting of Cooper's old girlfriend' saga?

I don't think Earle was possessed by Bob.  Just nuts.  He seemed to "know" 
about Bob and/or the Black Lodge, but I think he learned that through his own 
investigations (ie the cave).  

> 
>Daniel.
>--

..Mitch

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From: tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Tom Buzzeo)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Script
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:53:51 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Yeah.... if ANYONE can find the ENTIRE script...
post it... it might be worth something :)

Tom Buzzeo              tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: kwh@CS.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann)
Subject: Re: FWWM U.S. release,soundtrak,chess,etc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:56:40 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
	<rhaller-240792101550@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu>
Originator: kwh@GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU


Rich Haller writes:

>   Nope. What happened is that Windom detected that Coop was getting help from
>   someone else (Pete) and in a rage, swept all the pieces from his board and
>   started playing without rules.  That is, the board position at the time
>   would not allow him to capture the Queen legally as his next move.
>
>   So I guess it depends on whether you think Windom was correct in feeling
>   that Coop violated their agreement by using Pete. If so, then he Windom
>   wins. If not, then I don't know enough about chess to say whether the game
>   is forfeited by Windom's illegal move, or whether there is some lessor
>   penalty under generally accepted chess rules.

In this case, the 'touch' rule would come into effect.  

If Windom Earl touched one of his own peices first and made an illegal move,
then he must move that piece that he touched to a legal location.

If he touched one of Cooper's pieces first then he would have to capture
that piece somehow legally.

If Windom said, "Just adjusting."  then he would have been permitted to touch 
a piece that was not fully on a square and place it more properly on the square.
I don't think he made such a statement. And if he did, he sure did a poor job
of adjusting his piece.

I'll check tonight to see who's piece he touches first.  Or maybe I'll
save that excitement for Saturday night.  I have a feeling that I won't
be able to tell though.

Kevin

p.s. 	The International Chess Fedration states quite clearly that if
	it is impossible to take the queen and you do so anyway,  
	you must have your soul removed.

Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: 9207987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: The ending of Twin Peaks and Windom Earle-possessed?
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:50:02 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

From much of my reading of alt.tv.twin-peaks, I've gathered that the
series was `cancelled' due to lagging interest and not the fact that the
writers/producers wanted to end the series.

Does this mean the writers had planned to continue the story on from
Cooper's `possession' in the final episode, or did they know in advance
that this was to be the final one so they left it here on purpose??

Another question: Someone mentioned that Windom Earle was possessed by
Bob at some stage - was this so? Or did Windom just go crazy after the
`shooting of Cooper's old girlfriend' saga?

Daniel.
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Subject: Ren & Stimpy
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 19:54:20 GMT

I imagine someone else has already plugged R&S here, but I'm going to do it
anyway.  Check it out on Nickelodian, 11-11:30am am Sunday PDT/EDT. It's
like nothing you have ever seen before. Once you get addicted, you can
check out alt.tv-ren-n-stimpy.

-Rich Haller                    "Happy Happy Joy Joy Happy Happy Joy Joy!"
From: neilb@scs.leeds.ac.uk (Neil Bowers)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: looking for videos of TP in the UK
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:07:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies

I recently borrowed a friend's collection of TP videos, but there were
two episodes missing.  Is there anyone in the UK who has TP on video
who could lend me the following episodes:

	#14 (the one where Maddie is killed, I know that much)
	the penultimate episode (ie, with the Miss TP contest)

Please email me if you would be prepared to lend me these, I'll refund
postage of course.

Thanks,
Neil
--
Neil Bowers
neilb@scs.leeds.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: vcr@cs.brown.edu (Vincent C. Rubino)
Subject: Re: Astrology, etc.dir
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:07:19 GMT

This is my first posting to alt.tv.twin-peaks, but a posting from
about two weeks ago really caught my attention.  It was a discussion
of the astrological signs of several of the twin-peaks characters.  I
am wondering if similar postings have been made in the past, or people
will continue them in the future?  I'm also wondering if anyone knows
the sign of Julie Cruise, who I believe wrote the theme song to the
series.  Thank you for your help.
From: bahn@main.mndly.umn.edu (Christopher Bahn)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Backward palindromes
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:26:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: main.bahn.113
Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper)

In article <HLuRNB1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Tom Buzzeo) writes:

>Yes, I have one sound of the little man saying:
>"Wow Bob, wow"...
>Which surrisingly says...
>"Wow Bob, wow" when using Farlons SoundEdit...
>:o)

>Tom Buzzeo              tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
>Edmonton Remote Systems:  Celebrating 10 years of service to Northern Alberta

Wouldn't "Wow Bob, wow" be reversed into "wow, boB woW"? Just a pedantic 
question.
From: v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MATTMAN - RAEL IMPERIAL AEROSOL KID)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM U.S. release,soundtrak,chess,etc.
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Q1:

this question has probably been asked a thousand times, so here's a thousand 
and one- when is FWWM going to be released in the U.S.? i've heard mixed 
reviews from someone in England, where it has already been released.

Q2:

what is the deal with the "Twin Peaks" soundtrack?  there are like three or
four different songs by Badliamenti that are the same, only played on different
instruments.  were there that many different versions played in the t.v. show?
i saw every episode and i don't recall that many.

Q3:

does Lynch plan do anything else with TP after FWWM?  i'm speaking in terms
of maybe another movie just dealing with Coop and his life b4 TP, but since all
that is in the book, probably not.

Q4:

are there plans to release the entire cooper tape collection (Diane Vol. II)
the first one deals with Coop about a week b4 TP and up until right after
he gets shot, so there's still a lot of unaccounted tape.

Q5:

for arguments sake:  who really won the chess game, Coop or Windom?
i say Coop because at least he's still alive, albeit in the black lodge


send replies to V085PCQR@UBVMS

(or just post it!)

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                          Buffalo, because frankly, they couldn't care less-----
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: nielsb@cs.tamu.edu (Niels Bauer)
Subject: FWWM premier/festivities
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:31:19 GMT

I'll be visiting my sister in Seattle in August and wanted to have brunch at
the Salish Lodge (aka the Great Northern) on the 16th.  It turns out that
weekend will be the American premier of FWMM, with lots of activities planned
in the area.  Here's the information she sent me:

Are you in luck?  From August 14-16 is the first annual Twin Peaks Fest in
North Bend and Snoqualmie.  The U.S. premeire of "Twin Peaks - Fire Walk with
Me" on Aug. 16 in the North Bend Theater, but is already sold out.
Reservations are being taken for a possible second showing later the same day.
Tickets are also sold out for the dinner and breakfast with the stars at the
lodge, but many $35 tickets remain for a ceremony to present awards to the cast
members at the Snoqualmie Winery.  The price includes a barbecue lunch.  Other
events include a murder mystery dinner theater, "log lady" relay race, a
trivia contest, street dance, fun run and cherry pie eating contest at the
Mar-T cafe.  There will be a charge for parking in Snoqualmie and North Bend
during the festival, but visitors can park free at park-and-ride lots in
Eastgate and Issaquah and ride free to the festival on Metro buses that will
depart every 12 minutes.  For tickets to the awards presentation or for more
information call (206)888-4440 or (206)888-0321.

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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM and Structure of TV Viewing
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:20:09 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Jul22.061102.6998@ucc.su.OZ.AU> garry@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Garry Stevens) writes:
>Please be patient with a newcomer to newsgroups and this particular group. 
>
>Can anyone supply basic info on FWWM and what is On the Air?? 
>
>Also, has anyone noticed how the structure of TV programs differs from country
>to country? I saw most of TP in the USA, and then some of the same episodes in
>Australia. The two countries put the advertisements in different places and
>different quantities in each episode, giving a slightly different feel to the
>show. Having also seen some episodes on video, I found I actually liked the ads
>being there-- it gave you a break from the density and intensity.
>

Well on the BBC no ad's means you don't have to buy the video's if you
taped it from the beginning !!!

:-)

Neil
From: joji@twics.co.jp
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Astrology, etc.dir
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:15:03 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

>In article <1992Jul20.115200.5489@pdn.paradyne.com>, pitchon@paradyne.com
>(Howard Pitchon) wrote:
>> Question: In the  last episode, the  Log Lady says  that her husband
>> brought  home the oil a  few days before he  died. I thought he died
>> the night they were  married (from an earlier episode).  Can someone
>> explain the incongruity.
>
>Two possibilities.
>1. she called him 'my husband' in retrospect, even though they weren't
>married at the time he brought the oil home.
>2. another continuity glitch.
>

Why should the Log Lady have to distinguish whether he was her husband 
at the time he brought the oil home?

Joji Matsuo
joji@twics.co.jp
From: romana@Apple.COM (Romana Machado)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: May I borrow your Twin Peaks tapes?
Keywords: good coffee - and HOT!
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:59:11 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

I have only recently discovered the delights of Agent Cooper's
search for truth; two years ago, I gave up on tv and got rid of
the set.

Now I have a tv again, and a VCR. Because I enjoy David Lynch's films,
I rented the Twin Peaks pilot, and the first seven episodes, from
Tower Records. Unfortunately, that is the extent of their collection.

I am in search of a generous person in the Cupertino area who is
willing to loan me their videotapes.  

Thanks in advance,

romana
From: jgp@zodmate.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: <none>/FAQ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:52:59 GMT
Distribution: local,world

RYAN@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu writes:

>I've tried this before, and since no one answered, I'll try again.  Who knows
>about getting video tapes of the TP episodes?  I read something here long ago,
>about sets available.
 
This question, which keeps coming up, and several others, bring up the 
point that the FAQ list needs to be resurrected and updated.

Who was last in charge of this?  I'm willing to start maintaining this,
if the last person who had it will contact me.

(I replied by e-mail to this person.)

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: garry@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Garry Stevens)
Subject: FWWM and Structure of TV Viewing
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, Sydney Uni
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:11:02 GMT

Please be patient with a newcomer to newsgroups and this particular group. 

Can anyone supply basic info on FWWM and what is On the Air?? 

Also, has anyone noticed how the structure of TV programs differs from country
to country? I saw most of TP in the USA, and then some of the same episodes in
Australia. The two countries put the advertisements in different places and
different quantities in each episode, giving a slightly different feel to the
show. Having also seen some episodes on video, I found I actually liked the ads
being there-- it gave you a break from the density and intensity.

Garry Stevens
Dept of Architectural and Design Science
University of Sydney
Australia