HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: terry@gtm-inc.com (Terry Gerritsen)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Sites
Keywords: Help
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 20:05:38 EDT
Reply-To: terry@gtm-inc.com (Terry Gerritsen)
Distribution: world
Organization: G.T.M. Incorporated, Kingston, ON (613) 546-3078
Content-Type: Text

Are there are some very kind people out there in Net-Land that run a
public or private site. I have Rotarians who call into my BBS located
in Kingston, Ontario Canada to get news from International Rotary on
Student exchanges, and to leave info regarding Student exchanges. Well
I know it is costing them a lot of money doing it this way, so I was 
wondering if someone in, or close to the following cities, would help
me out by letting them use the mail system.

Etten-Leur Netherlands    ---------  Scholte Grevinkhoflaan Netherlands
        Dublin Ireland    ---------  London England
        Los Angeles Ca    ---------  Eureka Ca
         Middletown De    ---------  Baltimore Md
          Pittsburg Pa    ---------  Houston Tx
         White Rock Bc    ---------  Halifax Ns
         Springhill Ns    ---------  Grimsby On
         Kemptville On    ---------  Mississauga On

 Thankyou very much.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Terry Gerritsen         |  G.T.M. Incorporated              (613) 384 0162
terry@gtm-inc.com       |  Kingston, Ontario           Fax: (613) 389 4594
                      "Transportation is our business"
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: atwright@sophia.smith.edu (Aubrey Wright)
Subject: Looking for Robt. J. Veronin of S.F.
Organization: Smith College
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:57:26 GMT


I am looking for Robert John Veronin (dob 11/21/56), last seen in
San Francisco about 1985. Please send any e-mail replies to one of
the following addresses. Thank you. 


********************************************************************************
*       Internet/Usenet                              *   "No, no               *
*   atwright@smith.smith.edu                         *    and no."             *
*   atwright@sophia.smith.edu                        *      -Dream of the      *
*       alt.fan.endless                              *    * E N D L E S S *    *
********************************************************************************
From: weissman@pianoforte.esd.sgi.com (Terry Weissman)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Looking for Nancy Manning (nee Erbit)
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:48:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


My mother-in-law, Elaine Kavkewitz (nee Perlstein), is looking for
Nancy Manning (nee Erbit), who used to live in New York.  Elaine found
a note from Nancy that had been left with Nancy's aunt, Helen Roth,
but the note was missing an address or telephone number.  This was
several years ago, and Elaine hasn't been able to locate Nancy since.
She believe that Nancy is currently somewhere in California, but she's
not sure.

If anyone can help her get in touch with Nancy, please let me know.
I'll pass the information along to her.

Thanks,
Terry Weissman		weissman@sgi.com
From: smyer@usc.edu (Roxane Smyer)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Neil Helgeson Ph.D./South Dakota
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:13:05 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


Hi! I'm looking for Neil Helgeson that taught at Trinity University and The
University of Texas at San Antonio, Texas from about 1987-1989.  I think
that he got married and is now teaching at a University in South Dakota.  
Anyone with info can contact me via e-mail at:

smyer@usc.edu


Thanks in advance,

Roxane Smyer
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: "glenn anderson" <glenn.anderson@canrem.com>
Subject: looking for mit sysadmin
Reply-To: "glenn anderson" <glenn.anderson@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:22:08 EST


I'm looking for the address of any sysadmin at MIT. If someone
could help I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance

glenn.anderson@canrem.com
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont)
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
Subject: Re: looking for diane harkrider
Keywords: HELLO
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:54:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Calif., San Diego/Microscopy and Imaging Resource
NNTP-Posting-Host: pitstop.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Oct2.180347.1151@tc.fluke.COM> eris@fluke.tc.fluke.com (Chris Beckmeyer) writes:
>from TRW SYSTEMS DIV, 1973-74, manhatten beach, CA?
>
>i still have the photos from your birthday party in that el segundo apartment!

... and believe me, they're gonna cost you!

							spl


-- 
Steve Lamont, SciViGuy -- (619) 534-7968 -- spl@szechuan.ucsd.edu
UCSD Microscopy and Imaging Resource/UCSD Med School/La Jolla, CA 92093-0608
"If you don't think people are this crazy, you need to move to LA!"
                                     - Gary Stollman
Newsgroups: soc.net-people
From: ai26500@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (GoodFriendsRHard2Find )
Subject: U of I Chicago servers
Summary: uic servers?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:07:04 GMT
Keywords: uic servers?

Hiya all you netters!!
	I need a little help contacting a friend at UIC (University of Illinois
at Chicago Campus)  does anyone out there know the names of the servers
at the Chicago Campus....(NOT the University of Chicago but U of I at Chicago)
for Unix base machines...not bitnet...prefferably.

thank you all
ranma

Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.feminism
From: schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz)
Subject: Re: Mattel and math avoidance in girls
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:37:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.100417.10143@leland.Stanford.EDU>
farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
>
>"Oh, my God, no, no, no, no," said Paul Thomas, a math teacher in
>Fairfax County, Va., when told of Barbie's fear of fractions.  "I'll
>bet that they don't have Ken saying that.  (They don't.)

They probably have Ken saying, 'Hey, did you check out what the
babe in math class was wearing?'
;-)

-S. Schultz
Newsgroups: soc.women,talk.abortion
From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
Subject: Re: ABSOLUTELY NEW REMEDY FOR CONTRACEPTION IS OFFERED !!
Reply-To: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com
Organization: Abiogenesis 4 Less
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:26:43 GMT

In article <ABtgiogWZ1@sasco.georgia.su>, andro@sasco.georgia.su (Andrew Gachechiladze) writes:
# 
#  
#       Absolutely new remedy for contraception is offered !
#                   Please, pay attention !
#    
#    It is biologically clean remedy. There is no sexual hormones in
#  its composition and generally is produced without any chemical
#  preparation.
#    A woman can...

Stop right there.  Doesn't do me any good.  Only works on women.

I'm hoping for the non-surgical temporary sterilization method for men
to get FDA approval soon... they inject this goo into the vas deferens
that kills sperm by pH imbalance.  I heard on NPR that it's
reversible, lasts for years and it's more effective than the pill.

If I hear one more `science pundit' opin that female contraception is
inherently easier than male contraception, I'm gonna hurl.  That vas
deferens is right out there, practically right in full view, where it
can easily be manipulated with a simple local anesthetic.

Damn it, I want safe, effective, convenient, male contraception -- and
I want it NOW!


-- 
J H Woodyatt (a.k.a. Dr. Strychnine)
Space Systems/Loral

Help keep Las Vegas clean.  Eat your kill.
Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion,soc.men
From: ta-vg11@muddnext9.cc.columbia.edu (Vikas Gupta)
Subject: Re: Mattel and math avoidance in girls
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:11:37 GMT

In article <3582@creatures.cs.vt.edu> debra@creatures.cs.vt.edu (Debra  
Potts) writes:
> Could somebody please post the complaint number again?  I just read of  
it
> in a post; didn't even know one existed.  Thanks!


It is a fact that there is a lot of math avoidance in girls.


granola
Newsgroups: soc.women,soc.men
From: whalen@starch.enet.dec.com (Rich Whalen)
Subject: Re: The Politics Of Appeasement
Reply-To: whalen@starch.enet.dec.com (Rich Whalen)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Shrewsbury, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:00:35 GMT


In article <1992Sep29.011341.2517@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
|>Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights,soc.women,soc.men
|>From: farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf)
|>Subject: Re: The Politics Of Appeasement
|>Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
|>Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 01:13:41 GMT
|>
|>I found this post in soc.men and thought it was interesting, so I'm
|>including the complete text.
|>

<I'm saving bandwidth>

|>
|>Something like 40,000 American women die each year from breast cancer.
|>Are you saying that it's wrong to fund a disease that mainly strikes
|>women (although breast cancer can also strike men)?  Do you feel the
|>same way about cancers that only strike men--penile cancer, testicular
|>cancer, prostate cancer?  Should research and treatment of them not be
|>funded because these are cancers of a special interest group--men?
|>

How much funding is there for penile cancer, testicular cancer, prostate
cancer?  One hears so little about these things that it's easy to conclude
that there is none.  Remember politicians like to make sure that you know
about everything that they do that has the slightest possibility of being
beneficial to you.

<More bandwidth saved>
|>
|>Nearly one in four American women will come down with breast cancer in
|>her lifetime.  This could be your mother, sister, daughter, or wife.
|>
|>

The current statistic used by the American Cancer Society is 1 out of 8 women
will have breast cancer in her lifetime.  One of the significant reasons for
the increasing numbers is the increase in lifespans.

------------------------------------------------------
Rich Whalen

You don't know where these bits have been!
From: dmcanzi@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi)
Newsgroups: soc.women
Subject: Re: a question with little context.
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:28:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: watserv1.BvCu2u.8ts
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <6317@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> jgh1+@pitt.edu (John G Hardie) writes:
[P.I.L. quote omitted.]
>There was a complaint that this quote is misogynistic and should be
>removed.  My question is:  Is this quote misogynistic?

There is nothing in the quote itself that suggests misogyny.  I don't
know anything about the song it came from, so I can't comment on whether
it's misogynistic in context.

>(for the record, I don't think it is and I don't understand why someone
>would believe so - it comes from a song that seems to be about a
>friendship that went bad, there's no mention of sex anywhere - but 
>the quote is gonna get changed anyway)

How many people have complained, and how many have expressed agreement
with the complaint?  On what grounds do they argue that the quote is
misogynistic?
-- 
David Canzi
From: chrz@tellabs.com (Peter Chrzanowski)
Newsgroups: soc.women
Subject: Re: Mattel and math avoidance in girls
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:57:45 GMT
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.

In article <1992Oct1.233156.29593@midway.uchicago.edu>, mec6@quads.uchicago.edu (Rini Clarkberg) writes:
> 
> But somehow a talking Barbie changes that, IMO.   It's no longer up
> to the kid what kind of person she is.  She just tells you what she's
> like.  She finds math hard.  Oh...  I didn't know.  I thought she found
> everything challenging and exciting -- like the way she took on GI Joe
> last week and won....  Bummer.  Kinda takes the vigor out of her.
> She becomes a sissy.  And that's sad.

If only she'd say, "for every nonzero delta there exists an epsilon
such that the absolute value of epsilon is less than delta ... HUH?"

It'd provoke the kid to ask what the heck it means, anyway.

> 
> rini
Xref: sparky soc.women:17120 alt.abortion.inequity:4083 talk.abortion:38994 soc.men:17027
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion,soc.men
Subject: Re: Guilty of ... STUPIDITY!
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:27:58 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Followup-To: alt.abortion.inequity
Organization: SGI TechPubs
NNTP-Posting-Host: eno.wpd.sgi.com

---
[followups to a.a.i, ok?]

beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
|In article <1992Sep27.142543.22029@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
|>Gee, and why would the women "refuse to speak honestly and openly"?  Maybe
|>becuase they've already heard about how if they "show disrespect", they'll
|>be killed?

|Again, the only proposal to kill a woman simply because she 
|"shows disrespect" has come from you.  Is that why you are so 
|afraid of informing men about things that might upset them?

You are incorrect.  Will Steeves posted here that he would
probably kill a woman for being disrespectful:

[]And with God or Allah (whomever) as my witness, I will say
[]that in my own situation, if the woman had *not* been so
[]respecting as to tell me before, but in fact had not only told
[]me right afterwards, but had waited a year (!) or more, I
[]probably would have snapped right there and killed her where she
[]stood.

This is what Keith (& I) find despicable and horrifying, and
an excellent argument *against* required spousal notification.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com          C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"If you meant what you said in your article, I'd suggest you seek out 
psychiatric or spiritual guidance.  You may end up as a criminal 
statistic."--Russell Lawrence
From: jgh1+@pitt.edu (John G Hardie)
Newsgroups: soc.women
Subject: Re: a question with little context.
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:19:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BvCu2u.8ts@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> dmcanzi@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi) writes:
[...in response to my tale of woe...]
>
>How many people have complained, and how many have expressed agreement
>with the complaint?  On what grounds do they argue that the quote is
>misogynistic?
>-- 
>David Canzi

As far as I know, only one person complained.  I don't know who
it is, and I really don't have any way of finding out.  I have
absolutely no idea what was supposed to be misogynistic about it.

More detail: About a day after I put that quote in the MOTD, my
advisor came to talk to me.  He said that he'd heard that there had
been a complaint about the quote - that it was misogynistic.  This was
still informal - no official complaint had been lodged (I guess, I
don't really know for sure) and to avoid any escalation of this
problem, I was to change the quote post haste.  That's all the info
I have.  I asked my advisor about it, but he looked uncomfortable
and wouldn't say more.  I didn't feel like pressing the issue.

The quote was changed that same day.

I'm not (too !) pissed off anymore - mostly, I'm annoyed with myself
for not standing up to this but I'm massively confused as
to how that quote could POSSIBLY be taken in the way it was.

Regards,
John

-- 
jgh1@vm1.cis.pitt.edu

	Give me chastity and continency, but do not give them yet.

Xref: sparky soc.women:17379 soc.motss:41879 soc.misc:1009 soc.men:17340 soc.college.grad:1905 soc.college:4143 soc.bi:13427 sci.psychology:4019 rec.misc:248 alt.politics.homosexuality:6349 alt.personals:19880 misc.misc:3428
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.women,soc.motss,soc.misc,soc.men,soc.college.grad,soc.college,soc.bi,sci.psychology,rec.misc,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.personals,misc.misc
Subject: Re: What adjectives do you think best describe romantic jealousy?
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:43:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct6.004353.6245
Reply-To: baltman@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu
Followup-To: misc.misc
Organization: insert anything here

In article <1992Oct5.Altman) writes:

And crossposts to *12* newsgroups without setting the Reply-To: or 
Followup-To: fields!


	Brian please ask your news admin to explain how to crosspost
correctly, or why you shouldn't do it at all.

	PLEASE keep follow-ups out of soc.motss and soc.bi.

Thanks, BBC
Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion,soc.men
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: a question with little context.
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:28:18 GMT

In article <6317@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> jgh1+@pitt.edu
(John G Hardie) writes:

>Our computer displays a quote upon log in.  It was recently changed
>to read:
>
>	"Disappointed a few people,
>	When friendship reared it's ugly head
                               ^^^^
>	Disappointed a few people,
>	Well, isn't that what friends are for"
>					J. Lydon/P.I.L.
>
>
>There was a complaint that this quote is misogynistic and should be
>removed.  My question is:  Is this quote misogynistic?

It isn't misogynistic, but it is illiterate and should be removed for
that reason from any institute of learning.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.women,soc.men
From: farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf)
Subject: Re: The Politics Of Appeasement
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 03:59:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.180938.2330@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
>From Science, the December 29 1991 issue. These figures are approximate, as
>they are read from a graph, interpolated by my eyeball. 
>The source of the figures is a 'recent GAO report', but I don't have any more
>specifics.
>
>                    Total Funding (millions)   Funding per Death (thousands)
>Stroke                   75                        .5
>Lung cancer              80                        .5
>Prostate cancer          30                        1
>Breast cancer            120                       2.5
>Aids                     350                       15  
>
>Conclusion: Breast cancer is funded at over 2.5x the rate of any other
>cancer per death, and is also the leading in absolute funding.

Thanks for these data.  I had intended to go to the medical library to
check this out, but my research had other plans for me.  

>It *is* interesting that prostate cancer is second place in fuding per
>death, but it's the lowest in absolute terms.  (There may be a threshold
>effect here).

I'm curious, too.  I wonder if breast cancer is getting more funding
because of increased activity on the part of women (similar to AIDS
funding).  For example, AIDS funding appears high until you consider
the years when it received little funding until the government finally
took notice.  Is breast cancer funding getting the same "catch-up"?

>I think the remark that breast cancer funding is politically motivated
>is right on target, myself.

Oh, I didn't say it wasn't political.  I think it is.  I just wonder
why it's so wrong for women to flex their political muscle.  As Larsen
pointed out, women are hardly a special interest group since they're
the majority here in the US.

>For example 120/2.5 gives 48,000 deaths per hear for breast cancer
>from these approximate figures (close to your number), while
>80/.5 gives 160,000 deaths for lung cancer per year.  Yet breast
>cancer receives more funding than lung cancer.

It may be that many lung cancers are avoidable--don't smoke.  I'm not
sure what the comparable avoidance in women would be, probably don't
be overweight and do monthly breast exams and have mammograms (?).

>I don't have any statistics on general health funding issues for women,
>but certainly 'extra' funding for breast cancer isn't going to address
>any broader problems that women may have.

It may help with other cancers in women the same way that AIDS
research teaches us about the immune system and other viruses.  I'm
not a doctor, though, just an engineer, so this is speculation.

Newsgroups: soc.women
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: Re: Mattel and math avoidance in girls
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:15:05 GMT

In article <1ag6jmINNn6b@gap.caltech.edu>, peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:

> I phoned Mattel to express my dismay at their choice of phrases.
> They defended their choice by stating that Barbi says lots of other
> things too, like "school is fun".  They also pointed out that 
> Barbi is blonde.  I fail to see what any of these things have anything
> to do with excusing Mattel's glirification of math phobia.
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I just wanted to point out this lovely Freudian typo.  Is it meant to
be "glorification" or "girlification" -- or both?

-- 
/\     It's not denial.  I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.
  \_][ <--NCAR Ilana Stern dod#009 r.b. cliff swallow ilana@ncar.ucar.edu    
      \______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: soc.women
From: ejohnson@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Liz Johnson)
Subject: Re: Mattel and math avoidance in girls
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:53:50 GMT

Someone at a Women in Science conference this weekend pointed out that
"Math class is easy" could be just as damaging as "Math class is hard"
since math class is not easy for most people.  She suggested "Math
class is hard and I can do it" as a better phrase.  I thought that was
a good suggestion.

I also heard that Mattel's response has been to offer to trade a mute
Barbie for one that speaks if you're offended by the doll's words. I
guess it's too late to pull the dolls, especially since not all of
them have the math phrase.

Liz Johnson


Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion,soc.men
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Nykios Proves that Science is Dangerous....
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:09:25 GMT

chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman) writes:
] nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
] 
] > And how do they know, when so many women are understandably 
] > reluctant to return to a place that butchered them in the first
] > place?
] 
] Ah!  Nobody knows if >1% suffer complications, but they must be out there
] because there is no evidence that they aren't.  Circular reasoning _and_
] argumentum ad ignorantum!  And to think that you called Larry a clown in
] one of your recent posts.
] 
] Pot, kettle, black, Dr. Science.

Chris,

Now Be Reasonable, We ALL KNOW that the Honorable Dr. E. Koop,
while Under the Reagan Administration was FORCED to release
the report that there is no 'PostTraumatic Stress DisOrder' associated
with getting an abortion....

But the TrueBelievers do not buy that Government Propoganda,
as We Want to Know the True Facts, and not Government Scientific
Facts that Do not take into account the Secret Conspiracy of
Those Persons Who are Not Nice.....


ciao
drieux


ps: Speaking of OTHER Great Shocking revelations that
came up after R. V. W. .... It seems that some folks
out there were getting 'abortions' on demands, and
that these procedures were being listed for 'other
gynocologically relevant' reasons....

Now imagine that.....



-- 
Modern Day Problems

Does that 'answer' your question,
or should I be a little more vague.
Newsgroups: soc.women
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: questions about abortion issue
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:39:15 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <8z!p8cn@lynx.unm.edu> sdavey@triton.unm.edu (Sean Davey) writes:
>hello,

Hi Sean,

>  I've been thinking about abortion as a legal issue and since I haven't
>heard things put this way I want to ask if my ideas hold any water or if
>I'm just haven't talked to enough people.  

You know, Sean, there's a group called talk.abortion that you might
be interested in. It's for people who want to talk about abortion.

-jen

Newsgroups: soc.women